| 00:00.00 | chealer_ | kreg_work: I don't have modprobe.conf files on my machines |
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| 00:00.14 | sjaakz0r | how to connect in minicom? |
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| 00:00.27 | benjamindees | krassy1809, grep 386 /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 00:00.36 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: i have one more kernel 2.4.xx |
| 00:00.55 | huhlig | sjaakz0r how to make it start listening |
| 00:01.12 | sjaakz0r | now huhlig I wanna send hex to it |
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| 00:01.18 | Eulex | benjamindees, best thing imho would be to make him apply whatever patch is needed to his 2.6.8 source and then let him compile it. |
| 00:01.21 | Red_Cloud | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.37 | beardy | huhlig: So, configure minicom to be able to talk to the device, or configure the device's serialport to fit minicom. When you have the correct settings you will se output directly. |
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| 00:01.40 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: greb nothing say |
| 00:01.47 | benjamindees | Eulex, I'll post a diff if you walk him through it... |
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| 00:02.01 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: grep 386 /boot/grub/menu.lst - say: nothing |
| 00:02.14 | huhlig | beardy at the bottom it says offline |
| 00:02.14 | beardy | Red_Cloud: channel, ask ##linux? |
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| 00:02.38 | jimb0 | omg classic |
| 00:02.39 | jimb0 | so |
| 00:02.41 | pipeline | !ubuntu |
| 00:02.41 | dpkg | hmm... ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 00:02.48 | jimb0 | im googling for ntfs write-enable support |
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| 00:02.54 | jimb0 | and i get an IRC log of people talking about it |
| 00:02.55 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: what is the difrence between my kernel and i386 ? |
| 00:02.57 | jimb0 | and what do you know: |
| 00:02.59 | pipeline | jimb0: No such thing. |
| 00:03.00 | jimb0 | 00:50.44 deadcat rbochan: i want to see him cry like a little bitch |
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| 00:03.10 | benjamindees | krassy1809, yours is k7, athlon |
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| 00:03.14 | beardy | huhlig: That's only for when using a modem and dialing somewhere, it changes to Online when connecting. I don't think it bothers if you are not dialing with it. |
| 00:03.17 | jimb0 | -deadcat trying to set someone up to enable ntfs writing and see themselves get fucked |
| 00:03.28 | jimb0 | didnt surprise me at all. |
| 00:03.30 | Eulex | benjamindees, I'd do it if I wouldn't be going to bed rsn... |
| 00:03.39 | Arafangion | I'm on the debian-user mailing list and have trouble unsubscribing the non-digest account. |
| 00:03.55 | huhlig | hmm.. so why Can I seee data in hyperterminal on another system |
| 00:03.59 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: can i install i386 kernel on my machine ?\ |
| 00:04.18 | benjamindees | krassy1809, if you have one, yes |
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| 00:04.36 | Arafangion | The situation I believe is that I have had a number of email addresses, and I always set these up to forward to my current address - one of those old email addresses (Which I've forgotten) was used to subscribe. |
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| 00:04.40 | benjamindees | krassy1809, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-386 |
| 00:04.43 | ClayG | where can i get a good sources.list |
| 00:04.56 | Arafangion | Now, how do I unsubscribe from debian-user? |
| 00:05.02 | Eulex | ClayG, use apt-setup |
| 00:05.07 | ClayG | thanks |
| 00:05.08 | blondie | Arafangion: send a message from that address? |
| 00:05.13 | Arafangion | blondie: Which one? |
| 00:05.13 | ClayG | the only thing in my sources.list is the cd |
| 00:05.15 | ClayG | on another computer |
| 00:05.20 | blondie | Arafangion: look in the email headers maybe |
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| 00:05.30 | blondie | it might say which address it was sent to |
| 00:05.32 | jimb0 | apt-setup isnt a good way to get good sources |
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| 00:05.40 | jimb0 | as far as i know. |
| 00:06.00 | jimb0 | i think the best way is to have someone with a good sources.lst give it away. |
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| 00:06.05 | nesys | hi folks |
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| 00:06.24 | nesys | I've a problem with rtc and genrtc ... the best practice for that? |
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| 00:06.38 | nesys | modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting rtc (/lib/modules/2.6.8-nesyos-01.16.2006/kernel/drivers/char/rtc.ko): No such device |
| 00:06.50 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:how i can download from internet becouse i don`t have debian sarge dvd now and apt-get say:E: Couldn't find package kernel-image-2.6.8-386 |
| 00:06.56 | beardy | I have a bit trouble with a serial connection myself, serial console on a machine, to which I connect from another machine. The machine I connect with crasched (old laptop running Telix). And after I HUP:ed it's shell, I'm unable to connect to it again. I've tried HUP:ing the getty, reinitialize /etc/inittab, but it doesn't spawn a new login on the laptop still.. |
| 00:07.08 | benjamindees | krassy1809, sorry, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 00:07.36 | Arafangion | blondie: Hmm, thanks, it seems that the headers may have been modified but it is revealing one email address that I may have used before - thanks. |
| 00:07.38 | cisee | hrm anyone know of an apache 2.1/2 debian repo ? |
| 00:07.39 | sjaakz0r | can anyone help me send hex strings to my com port ? |
| 00:07.44 | lizardX | hi. can you pls tell me how to configure the apt sources |
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| 00:07.52 | lizardX | dpkg-something... ? |
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| 00:08.14 | beardy | sjaakz0r: setserial ? |
| 00:08.16 | nesys | lizardX use apt-spy ;) |
| 00:08.16 | nipplesrulz | heh |
| 00:08.18 | nipplesrulz | <3 ssh |
| 00:08.27 | sjaakz0r | beardy what do you mean? |
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| 00:08.37 | beardy | sjaakz0r: What do _you_ mean? |
| 00:08.40 | lizardX | heh |
| 00:08.47 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:ok is done |
| 00:09.06 | sjaakz0r | beardy I wanna send a hex code to a unit which is on com 1...how can I do this? |
| 00:09.12 | Red_Cloud | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.12 | nesys | someone has the same problem on startup? rtc/genrtc? |
| 00:09.31 | beardy | sjaakz0r: You mean connect to it and send it something? |
| 00:09.40 | sjaakz0r | yea beardy |
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| 00:09.42 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:what more i have to to do now ? |
| 00:09.52 | beardy | sjaakz0r: The device name is /dev/ttyS0, use minicom. |
| 00:09.56 | beardy | !win minicom |
| 00:09.56 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:reboot ? |
| 00:09.56 | dpkg | Congratulations, minicom! You have won the US presidency! |
| 00:10.01 | beardy | Program of the day. |
| 00:10.18 | benjamindees | krassy1809, yep, reboot with the 386 kernel |
| 00:10.26 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:ok |
| 00:10.39 | sjaakz0r | yeah beardy but I don't understand how minicom works |
| 00:11.13 | coolpix | gn8 |
| 00:11.56 | deadcat | look at this guy: http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/xwd_20060121_4872.png |
| 00:12.34 | ttl- | i made a dvd without menus with dvdauthor, mkisofs and dvdrecord but i like to add some simple menus for selecting 1 of the 3 movies om my DVD |
| 00:12.54 | nesys | http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2005-January/010859.html |
| 00:12.57 | deadcat | i actually giggled in class after seeing that post (= |
| 00:13.10 | nesys | that works ... but on startup I receive always the same error about rtc |
| 00:13.14 | nesys | what could I do? |
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| 00:13.38 | EvanCarroll | Is there anyway to change the chroot prompt so after i dchroot into a chroot, It looks identifably different |
| 00:13.49 | ttl- | from what i have read i need to create a DVD.mpg |
| 00:14.04 | TonyRad | :( I'm having issues with my debian samba server... Lots of them. |
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| 00:15.08 | beardy | sjaakz0r: By default, Ctrl-a-z for help. Can be changed to use Alt-z instead. 'man minicom' |
| 00:15.15 | TonyRad | I'm able to connect to other computers within the network with it, but not to any outside web sites etc.. any ideas? |
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| 00:16.49 | nesys | what is rtc and what is genrtc? and why rtc isn't loaded and genrtc yes? on debian sarge |
| 00:16.54 | beardy | lizardX: apt-setup, if noone has told you yet.. |
| 00:17.00 | fusionfox | every time i install a package before configurering it asks me all kinds of questions before installing that they are not normally asked, how can i make it install package by default as normal? |
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| 00:17.25 | beardy | fusionfox: What does it ask. (you probably want to read the /topic) |
| 00:17.42 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: uname -a now say :Linux Yoda 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 00:18.28 | fusionfox | beardy well it question me about how i want to install it.. but those are not question that you normally get |
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| 00:18.58 | beardy | fusionfox: What does it say exactly, and for which package? |
| 00:19.09 | fusionfox | like if i want to install the DNS >_> and if i want ip i want to bind |
| 00:19.12 | KerPlunk | !tell fusionfox about normal |
| 00:19.20 | fusionfox | simple things like that that can be assume by default |
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| 00:19.40 | sjaakz0r | I get an input/output error when trying to use cat on ttys0 any ideas? |
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| 00:19.56 | beardy | fusionfox: What package, and what is the exact message? |
| 00:20.01 | beardy | sjaakz0r: Don't do it. |
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| 00:20.11 | sjaakz0r | don't do what beardy?: |
| 00:20.13 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: insmod ./8139too.ko say :insmod: error inserting './8139too.ko': -1 File exists |
| 00:20.16 | beardy | sjaakz0r: I told you, use minicom. |
| 00:20.36 | beardy | sjaakz0r: Don't cat /dev/ttyS0 if that gives you errors. |
| 00:20.39 | fusionfox | beardy mmm i dont know how to explain well |
| 00:20.46 | fusionfox | with every package that it is not a lib |
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| 00:21.07 | beardy | fusionfox: Just type which package, and type the error you get exactly as it say. No need to explain anything. |
| 00:21.07 | Arafangion | sjaakz0r: cat'ing /dev/ttyS0 fails to actually dail, and doesn't time things properly. |
| 00:21.12 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: are you there ? |
| 00:21.12 | fusionfox | it question me about, but tooo others users this does not happens, it install default and then you reconfigure if you dont like |
| 00:21.29 | beardy | fusionfox: Which package? |
| 00:21.34 | benjamindees | krassy1809, yeah sorry |
| 00:21.39 | fusionfox | beardy, i am in console... so i cannot get to top >_< |
| 00:21.39 | nipplesrulz | do i want the cvs pserver ? |
| 00:21.53 | beardy | fusionfox: You should know what you just installed. |
| 00:22.08 | benjamindees | krassy1809, umm, what does 'lsmod|grep 8139' say? |
| 00:22.13 | KerPlunk | !tell fusionfox about ask |
| 00:22.14 | fusionfox | well apt-get install x-system-core cfs |
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| 00:22.21 | fusionfox | xfs* |
| 00:22.51 | drasko | hi all. I have problem to download gvim because it asks for libgnome > 2.8.0 What to do? Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0) but 2.6.10-1 is to be installed |
| 00:22.56 | fusionfox | it explains me what the packages do before making deciding an option |
| 00:23.00 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: 8139cp 19072 0 |
| 00:23.01 | krassy1809 | 8139too 23936 0 |
| 00:23.01 | krassy1809 | mii 4864 2 8139cp,8139too |
| 00:23.21 | beardy | fusionfox: x-system-core does not exist |
| 00:23.23 | benjamindees | krassy1809, and does your card work now you think? |
| 00:23.41 | fusionfox | x-window-system-core xfs |
| 00:23.42 | nipplesrulz | its um |
| 00:23.47 | beardy | fusionfox: Yes, that's nothing wrong. |
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| 00:23.51 | nipplesrulz | yeah that is it fusionfox ;) |
| 00:23.57 | fusionfox | i know xD |
| 00:24.05 | fusionfox | but it treats me like anewbie =P |
| 00:24.06 | nipplesrulz | beat me typing hehe |
| 00:24.09 | fusionfox | and it is anoying |
| 00:24.23 | beardy | fusionfox: It's a fucking program. And aren't you? |
| 00:24.29 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: when i use "ip link show" |
| 00:24.29 | drasko | hi all. I have problem to download gvim because it asks for libgnome > 2.8.0 What to do? Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0) but 2.6.10-1 is to be installed |
| 00:24.34 | canned | i need help, i have a weird problem with my imap server, i can send mails fine thru squirrelmail but i can only read the ones i receive via /var/mail/accname.. they dont appear in the squirrelmail inbox, any suggestions? |
| 00:24.37 | fusionfox | i am a newbie but that questions are out of order |
| 00:24.40 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:i do not see eth2 |
| 00:24.52 | benjamindees | krassy1809, oh do you have multiple cards? |
| 00:24.56 | canned | im using cyrus and postfix by the way |
| 00:25.01 | beardy | fusionfox: Why are they out of order? It asks you questions about how you want to use the package. |
| 00:25.03 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:see only eth0 and eth1 |
| 00:25.09 | fusionfox | HOly shet it asks me if i wnt to install a desktop, but omg i typed apt-get install KDE |
| 00:25.18 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:3 |
| 00:25.27 | benjamindees | krassy1809, regardless, try 'rmmod 8139too' and then 'insmod ./8139too.ko' |
| 00:25.29 | beardy | fusionfox: KDE is a desktop. |
| 00:25.39 | nipplesrulz | desktop environment even |
| 00:25.51 | beardy | fusionfox: And that's not what you said a minute ago. |
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| 00:26.07 | kspath | anyone use freemind? I have just stuck to vim which works well enough but was curious on opinions |
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| 00:26.08 | fusionfox | thats what i meant |
| 00:26.11 | fusionfox | >_< |
| 00:26.12 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:another two of them use the same chipsets 8139 |
| 00:26.29 | fusionfox | if i want to install KDE why it ask me if i want a desktop? |
| 00:26.39 | fusionfox | if i installed KDE? |
| 00:27.00 | fusionfox | i dont know how those questions got there... but dont know how to disable em |
| 00:27.08 | beardy | fusionfox: You probably need to read what it actually says once more. |
| 00:27.12 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:may be the difrence between them is in the letter after 8139 |
| 00:27.49 | Golfgeo | Got a question: Bootup tels me that the vt596_smbus controller isn't enabled, I sould upgrade my bios or use force=1... I suspect force=1 referce to and append in lilo, but what do I append, shouldn't force=1 have to be used with something like smbus_.... |
| 00:28.08 | Golfgeo | *an |
| 00:28.16 | fusionfox | okey read this goona take me a while to write but wait a little |
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| 00:28.43 | benjamindees | krassy1809, yeah perhaps but we can try this anyways... |
| 00:28.56 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:after rmmod 8139too and insmod ./8139too.ko the system is not say anything |
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| 00:30.29 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:i think insmod work now |
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| 00:30.43 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:no error messages |
| 00:31.12 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:what i have to do now ? |
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| 00:32.03 | IdahoEv | exit |
| 00:32.10 | benjamindees | krassy1809, dmesg|grep eth |
| 00:32.15 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:reboot may be ? |
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| 00:32.38 | benjamindees | krassy1809, no, don't reboot |
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| 00:32.56 | benjamindees | krassy1809, see if your ethernet device works now... |
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| 00:33.12 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:too many rows |
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| 00:33.23 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xdc00, 4c:00:10:51:20:f0, IRQ 169 |
| 00:33.42 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D |
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| 00:33.57 | SimonRaven | gravity: ping |
| 00:33.59 | benjamindees | krassy1809, just see how many ethX devices there are |
| 00:34.20 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:eth1: Davicom DM9102 at pci0000:00:0b.0, 00:80:ad:85:d7:fa, irq 177. |
| 00:34.45 | CoffeeIV | Ihave a package I tried to upgrade with apt-get install. It had an error. Now when I do apt-get -f install or install anything else it hits that bad upgrade and stops. How do I cancel that package from the list of packages to install ? |
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| 00:35.00 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:eth0 and eth1 - no eth2 |
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| 00:35.57 | clearscreen | Can anyone please help me? When I launch up my Disks thingo in Gnome, I want to mount my 2nd ntfs drive.. problem is, it says it's inaccessable and unformatted.. When I try to Enable it, it just wont do anything. I did fdisk -l and it showed up as /dev/hdc1.. But /dev/hdc1 doesnt even exist! (hdc does.. so the harddisk gets detected but not the partition table).. manual mounts wont work either since /dev/hdc1 doesnt exist.. any he |
| 00:36.03 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:may no irq for the problem NIC |
| 00:36.05 | benjamindees | krassy1809, so you have three network cards, and they're all rtl-8139? |
| 00:37.05 | jetscreamer | CoffeeIV: put the 'bad' package on hold |
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| 00:37.18 | jetscreamer | clearscreen: it might not be hdc then |
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| 00:37.30 | clearscreen | oh but it is :P |
| 00:37.40 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:two of them are rtl-8139 |
| 00:38.02 | benjamindees | krassy1809, can you /msg me the complete output of lspci? |
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| 00:38.20 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:yes |
| 00:38.21 | jetscreamer | clearscreen: only time i see that is either when i try to cfdisk an hd that isn't there, or i put cfdisk /dev/hda1 instead of cfdisk /dev/hda |
| 00:38.23 | clearscreen | because I have a sata drive which both linux and windows boot from, those drives and partitions are fine in /dev |
| 00:38.35 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 00:38.43 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:row at row |
| 00:38.49 | clearscreen | but I got a harddisk on primary master IDE |
| 00:38.49 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:ok ? |
| 00:39.00 | clearscreen | and only hdc shows up in /dev |
| 00:39.08 | clearscreen | no hda/no nothing.. just hdc |
| 00:39.21 | jetscreamer | beyond me then |
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| 00:39.32 | clearscreen | oh wait |
| 00:39.35 | clearscreen | now it found hda |
| 00:39.41 | miki | hello |
| 00:39.52 | benjamindees | krassy1809, /join #flood |
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| 00:40.18 | osdebian | hey folks..I'm having an issue with my IDE cdrom.. Debian recognizes it as hdc, but /dev has no device nodes for hdc, and MAKEDEV dosen't seem to work, any ideas? |
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| 00:40.54 | jetscreamer | LOL |
| 00:41.23 | miki | im trying to install my USB adsl modem via install-cd, but it stops at some wicked error saying: USBUsage: lspci [<switches>] |
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| 00:42.16 | clearscreen | jetscreamer.. hda is my cdrom |
| 00:42.23 | miki | however install readme says that i must have some packest installed, but i dont know how to check if i got those... those packets are: gcc, make, modutils, net-tools, SySVint, usbutils, pciutil, ppp |
| 00:42.39 | jetscreamer | well try b and d also |
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| 00:42.58 | jetscreamer | miki: apt-get install them maybe |
| 00:43.05 | clearscreen | hda ptyd0 ptyr8 ptyw0 ram2 tty54 ttyda ttys1 ttyta ttyy2 |
| 00:43.05 | clearscreen | hdc ptyd1 ptyr9 ptyw1 ram3 tty55 ttydb ttyS1 ttytb ttyy3 |
| 00:43.08 | clearscreen | that's it ;) |
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| 00:44.46 | benjamindees | krassy1809, I'd be interested to see if it works if you remove the working rtl8139 card, 0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) |
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| 00:44.59 | miki | jetscreamer: i dont have any internet cnnection on my debian system and i dont know how to check/install those |
| 00:45.09 | benjamindees | krassy1809, but other than that there isn't anything else I can recommend |
| 00:45.11 | nesys | mm .. I've canceled genrtc from kernel/drivers/char ... I've created a /etc/modprobe.d/rtc with install genrtc /sbin/modprobe rtc' but nothing' |
| 00:45.25 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:ok i will do this now |
| 00:45.25 | nesys | at startup I receive always that error: |
| 00:45.31 | jetscreamer | miki: you can use the cdrom as a source, or you could d/l one |
| 00:45.33 | miki | jetscreamer: wasnt apt for online downoad? |
| 00:45.42 | jetscreamer | any way at all |
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| 00:45.48 | nesys | modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting rtc (/lib/modules/2.6.8-nesyos-01.16.2006/kernel/drivers/char/rtc.ko): No such device |
| 00:45.57 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:for me that is very interested problem too |
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| 00:46.04 | nesys | someone could help me? |
| 00:46.05 | jetscreamer | nesys: genrtc is being loaded first |
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| 00:46.14 | jetscreamer | aka generic |
| 00:46.14 | miki | jetscreamer: i got only 110mb netsintall cdrom, u think that those might be somewhere there? |
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| 00:46.22 | jetscreamer | and so rtc doesn't |
| 00:46.25 | miki | netinstall** |
| 00:46.26 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:i need to shutdown the pc |
| 00:46.32 | nesys | jetscreamer how could I load rtc instead of genrtc? |
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| 00:46.41 | jetscreamer | miki: not sure.. might be. there is a list somewhere on debian.org |
| 00:46.42 | benjamindees | krassy1809, go for it |
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| 00:46.52 | miki | jetscammer: fine, let me search |
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| 00:47.26 | jetscreamer | nesys: what i did (a dirty hack) was mv the genrtc to something, and make a symlink to rtc.ko named genrtc.ko |
| 00:47.40 | humpi | i've tried installing debian with 2 different cds and installs but about halfway through my cd rom just stops and it says a random file is corrupt, but if i run it again it will either go futher or stop sooner, has anyone ever heard of this? |
| 00:48.01 | nesys | jetscreamer that's all? no rtc file on modprobe.d dir? |
| 00:48.13 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 00:48.34 | jetscreamer | nah i just made it think rtc was genrtc |
| 00:48.34 | nesys | jetscreamer http://dipper.info/project/ivtv/ |
| 00:48.49 | nesys | jetscreamer ok I try |
| 00:49.05 | Adrian | humpi: sounds like dodgy hardware |
| 00:49.06 | jetscreamer | in /lib/modules/whatever/further-down/ |
| 00:49.07 | scarynetworkguy | quitte: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA>>> |
| 00:49.25 | humpi | adrian, yeah, nothing i can do though |
| 00:49.51 | zethreth | I'm trying to mount my usd pendrive. I'm able to mount it with knoppix, but cannot mount it in debian. I have my fstab set to file system type vfat. It tells me that it's the wrong file system type. |
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| 00:50.24 | jetscreamer | humpi: i've had it not find installer modules, but 'verifying' the cd (the menu choice) sometimes gets it to work (usually a beta version of the installer though) |
| 00:50.30 | amphi | zethreth: correct device? |
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| 00:50.44 | zethreth | I'm running testing on the default 2.6 kernel |
| 00:50.49 | jetscreamer | zethreth: you 'could' try auto instead of specifying vfat |
| 00:50.50 | nesys | jetscreamer lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2006-01-22 01:50 genrtc.ko -> rtc.ko |
| 00:50.54 | nesys | jetscreamer correct? |
| 00:50.57 | jetscreamer | default == installer kernel? |
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| 00:51.06 | drasko | hi all. I have problem to download gvim because it asks for libgnome > 2.8.0 What to do? Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0) but 2.6.10-1 is to be installed |
| 00:51.07 | jetscreamer | nesys: that's what i did |
| 00:51.25 | humpi | jetscreamer, its a testing version of the netinstall, i'll get a different one and see if that might help |
| 00:51.29 | nesys | jetscreamer ok I reboot that and I see the log/ try with lsmod |
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| 00:51.31 | nceterval | eI'm having a problem with Sid (KDE 3.5, K3B 12.10) where K3B won't burn audio CDs from MP3 faster than about .5-1x. I'm using a DMA enabled 52x burner, modern media, and a fast CPU (Athlon XPM @ 2.3GHZ). I've noticed that the device buffer stays stable, but the other buffer struggles to stay at 1%. Any idea why this might be happening? |
| 00:52.14 | jetscreamer | having genrtc load keeps the alsa rtc module from loading btw |
| 00:52.16 | zethreth | What do your fstab files say for the usd entry ? |
| 00:52.47 | jetscreamer | nesys: another way is just compile your own kernel |
| 00:52.47 | nesys | jetscreamer I don't understand, sry :( |
| 00:52.58 | nesys | jetscreamer without? |
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| 00:53.15 | jetscreamer | it keeps an alsa module from being able to load if you have genrtc loaded... it wants rtc only |
| 00:53.31 | jetscreamer | like what you need but alsa |
| 00:53.44 | jetscreamer | (not important nm ) |
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| 00:54.20 | nesys | jetscreamer same error here |
| 00:54.27 | nesys | jetscreamer after reboot |
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| 00:54.50 | nesys | jetscreamer modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting rtc (/lib/modules/2.6.8-nesyos-01.16.2006/kernel/drivers/char/rtc.ko): No such device |
| 00:55.22 | nesys | jetscreamer rtc: can't be loaded |
| 00:55.22 | zethreth | I'm running testing with the default 2.6 kernel. I read the "mount" man and the "fstab" man and I know for sure that my usb is on /dev/sda1 and is noticed by my hotplug, buy nay to mount that. |
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| 00:55.46 | Bucciarati | 01:57 < CIA-14> IllusionOS: crxgames * r106 /trunk/include/IllusionOS/sched.h: Deleted another useless file. Man where did all of these come from? |
| 00:55.50 | Bucciarati | whoops |
| 00:55.57 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:join #flood |
| 00:56.20 | nipplesrulz | eh |
| 00:56.24 | nesys | jetscreamer if I use rmmod genrtc and modprobe rtc, it works ... but how could I do that automatically on startup? |
| 00:56.35 | nipplesrulz | im getting errors when i try to log into cvs for enlightenment: |
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| 00:56.57 | deadcat | still no e17 .deb? |
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| 00:57.13 | deadcat | i guess no one care enough to build it eh? |
| 00:57.25 | rend | is there mysql 5.0 for debian? |
| 00:57.34 | nipplesrulz | debian:~# cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment login >>>> Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:2401/cvsroot/enlightenment >>>> CVS password: >>>> cvs [login aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 00:57.40 | zethreth | I guess what I would like to know is if this problem stems from only my system or if others have are experiencing this to. |
| 00:57.52 | nipplesrulz | deadcat, if im gonna bother might as well just build it !_! |
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| 00:58.05 | nipplesrulz | spent the last 45min making sure i had dependancies hehe |
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| 00:58.17 | deadcat | nipplesrulz: there are few users here uses e17, but i dont think they built it in .deb |
| 00:58.24 | rend | the latest mysql version i can find for debian is only 4.1 |
| 00:58.25 | deadcat | hahaa |
| 00:58.28 | Bucciarati | rend: yes in sid: install mysql-server-5.0 |
| 00:58.38 | KerPlunk | !tell zethreth about bts |
| 00:58.53 | zethreth | bts? |
| 00:58.54 | strider | nipplesrulz: have you tries the shadoi repos |
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| 00:59.06 | nipplesrulz | strider, thats for ubuntu |
| 00:59.13 | strider | and for sid |
| 00:59.21 | SimonRaven | !bts |
| 00:59.21 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 00:59.30 | nesys | jetscreamer any advice for me? |
| 00:59.31 | nipplesrulz | o: |
| 01:00.12 | rend | Bucciarati: will that work with sarge? |
| 01:00.23 | Bucciarati | rend: no |
| 01:00.24 | strider | nipplesrulz: i haven't used it yet but the debian reository is more updated than the ubuntu one |
| 01:00.24 | centrx | nipplesrulz, i use the repository at http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/ |
| 01:00.37 | rend | so what should i do for sarge? |
| 01:00.51 | centrx | rend, you can find an unofficial backport of mysql for sarge |
| 01:00.57 | centrx | rend, try www.apt-get.org |
| 01:00.57 | Bucciarati | use mysql 4.1 |
| 01:01.02 | zethreth | perfect, I'll take care of this little bastered. |
| 01:01.03 | Bucciarati | why do you need 5.0 ? |
| 01:01.12 | rend | thats what i have to deploy on |
| 01:01.38 | zethreth | and help others in the process |
| 01:01.50 | nipplesrulz | centrx, whats the line for apt? |
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| 01:02.06 | nipplesrulz | deb http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/ ./ <<-- ?? |
| 01:02.11 | jetscreamer | nesys: i could never get it to NOT load genrtc on boot, which is why i did that |
| 01:02.17 | jetscreamer | but that's a stock kernel |
| 01:02.21 | jetscreamer | compile your own |
| 01:02.24 | jetscreamer | works every time |
| 01:02.29 | nipplesrulz | eh |
| 01:02.38 | nipplesrulz | i would like to know what i borked up on my cvs anyway though |
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| 01:02.42 | g3brown | I put an LCD monitor on my Sarge install and it's not showing up. I'm guess the timing is off. How do I reconfig gui? |
| 01:02.49 | Bucciarati | rend: backports.org or apt-get.org |
| 01:02.52 | jetscreamer | !drxx g3brown |
| 01:02.52 | dpkg | g3brown: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:03.07 | humpi | you guys should have (gnome)(mysql)(apache2) in the installer instead of just desktop environment and webserver, i just faked up my whole computer because of that |
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| 01:03.19 | jetscreamer | !lamp |
| 01:03.19 | dpkg | from memory, lamp is Linux, Apache, MySQL, {PHP,Perl,Python} or maybe Linux Animation and Movie Player, at http://pauillac.inria.fr/lamp/ |
| 01:03.24 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 01:03.39 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 01:03.42 | nesys | jetscreamer ok, I'll compile my kernel .. but how could I know what needs genrtc and what rtc? how could I know exactly to have only rtc and not genrtc? |
| 01:04.15 | jetscreamer | nesys: either your system supports rtc (high precision timer iirc) or it doesn't |
| 01:04.20 | jetscreamer | your hardware |
| 01:04.49 | nesys | jetscreamer mmm ... what could I do to check that? |
| 01:04.49 | jetscreamer | and it's an either/or thing |
| 01:05.00 | miki | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.04 | jetscreamer | you said the module loads. that 'probably' means it's ok |
| 01:05.21 | jetscreamer | miki: yeah, use google as an alternate |
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| 01:05.43 | jetscreamer | nesys: i know dang well that means it's ok, but i won't commit to saying that |
| 01:05.57 | jetscreamer | just compile rtc |
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| 01:06.11 | nesys | ok |
| 01:06.18 | nesys | jetscreamer thank you :) |
| 01:06.21 | kspath | DAPP = Debian Apache PostgreSQL Perl/Python/PHP |
| 01:06.22 | jetscreamer | or live with the symlink |
| 01:06.41 | miki | jetscreamer: before i will start downloading those, could u tell me ho to check wich ones are already installed on my pc? i need command :) |
| 01:06.55 | nesys | jetscreamer you say .. I see genrtc with lsmod, but maybe I've already loaded rtc (symlink) |
| 01:07.11 | rend | looks like backports has mysql-server-5... should i add something to my apt sources? |
| 01:07.14 | anapivirtua | Good night all |
| 01:07.28 | nesys | jetscreamer isn't it? |
| 01:07.49 | jetscreamer | i can't remember. my way to tell was if that alsa module would load or not |
| 01:07.58 | jetscreamer | i never did lsmod at the time |
| 01:08.04 | rend | never mind |
| 01:08.19 | miki | fine |
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| 01:09.55 | g3brown | Duing "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" can I exit and decide to do it later? |
| 01:09.56 | nesys | jetscreamer thank you |
| 01:09.56 | jetscreamer | nesys: if you mv'd the genrtc module, it sure ain't loaded |
| 01:10.03 | g3brown | sp/Duing/During |
| 01:10.11 | jetscreamer | g3brown: ctrl c yeah works for me |
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| 01:10.47 | g3brown | jetscreamer: yeah, that not working for me. |
| 01:10.47 | nesys | jetscreamer strange thing ... If I mv the genrtc module, and no symlink I see genrtc loaded with lsmod, and never rtc |
| 01:10.57 | cast_ | hmm, stock debian /etc/shadow password hashing is just one iteration of md5 with salting right? |
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| 01:11.22 | nesys | jetscreamer it's impossible, right? |
| 01:11.47 | jetscreamer | you sure you're in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ ? |
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| 01:12.43 | nesys | jetscreamer yes, is it |
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| 01:13.03 | nesys | elessar:/lib/modules/2.6.8-nesyos-01.16.2006/kernel/drivers/char# cd / |
| 01:13.03 | nesys | elessar:/# uname -r |
| 01:13.03 | nesys | 2.6.8-nesyos-01.16.2006 |
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| 01:14.07 | jetscreamer | ok so to test, mv both rtc and genrtc and the symlink out of the dir |
| 01:14.26 | jetscreamer | and put em back one at a time |
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| 01:14.30 | jetscreamer | compile kernel! |
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| 01:15.03 | SimonRaven | um, why the cd foobar then uname -r? that cd is totally useless |
| 01:15.06 | nipplesrulz | hmm |
| 01:15.14 | nipplesrulz | im not so sure its e17 on there |
| 01:15.30 | nipplesrulz | and im gonna be rather annoyed if its not |
| 01:15.31 | nipplesrulz | :/ |
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| 01:16.39 | LoginError | hey guys im having trouble installing TightVNC on my debain computer |
| 01:16.49 | LoginError | i keep getting a prematrue end of archive error |
| 01:16.58 | drasko | hi all. I can not ping windows machine, which should be 192.168.0.2. What am I missing? |
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| 01:17.28 | nvz | drasko: sounds like a pong reply :P |
| 01:17.32 | jetscreamer | windows fw no like you? |
| 01:17.34 | nvz | is what you are missing |
| 01:17.37 | SimonRaven | LoginError: try apt-get clean then re-getting it (sorry for the bad grammar) |
| 01:17.38 | g3brown | Can I adjust monitor settings without using "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86"? |
| 01:17.57 | jetscreamer | yes but know thy md5sum if you hand edit the file |
| 01:18.08 | nvz | g3brown: edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 then you have to update your xmd5sum |
| 01:18.12 | drasko | jetscreamer, no fw on windoze... |
| 01:18.12 | LoginError | SimonRaven: im afraid i have no idea what that means, im still new to linux/debain |
| 01:18.16 | jetscreamer | !tell g3brown -about xmd5 |
| 01:18.37 | SimonRaven | 'debian' |
| 01:18.44 | LoginError | oops :P |
| 01:18.48 | SimonRaven | !debain |
| 01:18.48 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 01:18.50 | jetscreamer | well you ldon't have to unless you want to use the dpkg-reconfigure agian |
| 01:19.03 | jetscreamer | ag-ian |
| 01:19.08 | LoginError | lol, im guessing its frequently mispelled |
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| 01:19.44 | SimonRaven | LoginError: run apt-get clean then try installing it again |
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| 01:20.13 | jetscreamer | drasko: not sure what to tell you, not my forte |
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| 01:20.25 | grew | can anyone tell me why after upgrading to unstable perl compains about failing to set locale every time i run apt-get? |
| 01:20.26 | deadcat | SimonRaven: count this (= http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/xwd_20060121_7987.jpg |
| 01:20.38 | LoginError | i still dont understand, i went to the sourceforge page and downloaded the linux source, and then doubleclicked the icon on the desktop |
| 01:20.51 | nvz | grew: maybe because it fails to set the locale |
| 01:21.01 | jetscreamer | grew try dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 01:21.01 | nvz | grew: try installing locales |
| 01:21.12 | jetscreamer | whichever |
| 01:21.16 | LoginError | gnome by the way |
| 01:21.20 | grew | oh |
| 01:21.24 | SimonRaven | LoginError: now why did you do that? |
| 01:21.25 | grew | locales isnt installed |
| 01:21.28 | nvz | duh |
| 01:21.30 | nvz | :P |
| 01:21.31 | grew | that was silly stupid thanks |
| 01:21.49 | jetscreamer | uh isn't locales like important or standard? |
| 01:21.53 | SimonRaven | !tell LoginError -about search |
| 01:21.58 | miki | jetscreamer: i got one odd question, how to scroll my window when im in debian command line // msdos // etc |
| 01:22.05 | nvz | !info locales |
| 01:22.07 | grew | jetscreamer: its replacing base-config with locales |
| 01:22.07 | odla | anyone know how i can the date/time in X |
| 01:22.09 | jetscreamer | miki: shift+pgup/dn |
| 01:22.12 | dpkg | locales: (GNU C Library: National Language (locale) data [support]), section libs, is standard. Version: 2.3.5-12 (sid), Packaged size: 4026 kB, Installed size: 10920 kB |
| 01:22.14 | miki | thanks :) |
| 01:22.17 | g3brown | nvz: Can I just edit the monitor settings with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" then? Some of the questions it is asking, I"m not sure the answer too and all I want to do is change resolution so the sync in within LCD monitors range. |
| 01:22.27 | drasko | Anyone? I can not ping windows machine, which should be 192.168.0.2. What am I missing? |
| 01:22.28 | jetscreamer | baseconfig is incompatible with something in sid |
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| 01:22.49 | deadcat | odla: use gdesklets or conky or torsmo |
| 01:22.52 | jetscreamer | g3brown: choose medium instead of the default(iirc) advanced |
| 01:22.54 | nvz | g3brown: all debian debconf scripts invoked by dpkg-reconfigure are widhe comopliant |
| 01:23.15 | jetscreamer | drasko: dns? arp? |
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| 01:23.36 | LoginError | sorry, im way in over my head here, can you reccomend anywhere i can learn a little more about how linux handles files/sources/ect |
| 01:23.37 | odla | deadcat: i want to change the time in my icewm panel |
| 01:23.38 | g3brown | jetscreamer: I'm comfortable once I get to monitor stuff, it asking like 20 questions before that. |
| 01:23.39 | drasko | jetscreamer, ? |
| 01:23.49 | SimonRaven | !widhe |
| 01:23.49 | dpkg | When In Doubt, Hit Enter |
| 01:23.49 | deadcat | odla: oh you want the format right? |
| 01:23.53 | nvz | g3brown: you will need to choose advanced monitor configuration to get the settings you desire |
| 01:24.08 | odla | deadcat: how to set it |
| 01:24.09 | nvz | g3brown: the configuration is WIDHE compliant and saves your previous choices |
| 01:24.25 | SimonRaven | jetscreamer: yeh, everything. it got removed |
| 01:24.27 | nvz | g3brown: so use standard WIDHE protocol |
| 01:24.31 | g3brown | nvz: So like dpkg said, I can jsut hit enter and I'm safe? |
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| 01:24.36 | nvz | yep |
| 01:24.38 | odla | it says it's 5 hours later than it really is |
| 01:24.56 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 01:25.04 | deadcat | odla: ohhhhh. ntpdate |
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| 01:25.14 | g3brown | nvz: Is WIDHE some catchy acronym for idiot proof? |
| 01:25.21 | jetscreamer | or utc vs tz |
| 01:25.23 | hydeph | i am setting up a SWRAID 0 using two 2.1GB scsi hard discs, and i was wondering what the optimal ChunkSize would be for my array, could anyone please assist me? |
| 01:25.31 | nvz | g3brown: its a catchy acronym for When In Doubt, Hit Enter |
| 01:25.41 | worthy | how do i upgrade just 1 package with apt-get? |
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| 01:25.57 | worthy | i don't want duplicates of the same software, just an upgrade |
| 01:25.58 | hydeph | i was going to use a 4kB chunk, but i just wanted to confirm with an expert to make sure i was choosing the proper selection |
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| 01:26.43 | odla | damn it...ntpdate didn't work |
| 01:27.00 | deadcat | make it work |
| 01:27.06 | odla | ha ha |
| 01:27.14 | odla | i'll break |
| 01:27.18 | odla | it |
| 01:27.32 | nvz | g3brown: if something is dangerous we make it off by default.. like apt-get remove libc6..."You are about to do something potentially harmful \n To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'" pressing enter will cancel |
| 01:28.12 | nvz | g3brown: or like the giftd package.. its useless until you run gift-setup and/or edit the config and set the setup=0 to setup=1 makes sure you look at the config first |
| 01:28.20 | grew | does anyone know how i can configure my vesa framebuffer on boot via grub? |
| 01:28.40 | madradrone | and if if even useless after that... |
| 01:28.42 | amphi | grew: video=vesa vga=some_mode |
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| 01:28.48 | asg | grew: append a vga=791 (or vga=xxx) to the end of your kernel line |
| 01:28.59 | worthy | how do i upgrade just one package with apt-get please? I want to upgrade to bash 3.0 |
| 01:29.03 | grew | amphi/asg: where can i get a list of the vga modes? its been long enough that i forget what they are |
| 01:29.09 | nvz | !info bash |
| 01:29.11 | dpkg | bash: (The GNU Bourne Again SHell), section shells, is required. Version: 3.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 830 kB, Installed size: 1668 kB |
| 01:29.20 | nvz | !info bash etch |
| 01:29.26 | madradrone | worthy: apt-get install |
| 01:29.27 | dpkg | bash: (The GNU Bourne Again SHell), section shells, is required. Version: 3.1-1 (etch), Packaged size: 829 kB, Installed size: 1668 kB |
| 01:29.42 | worthy | ok |
| 01:29.50 | worthy | but how do i upgrade |
| 01:30.01 | nvz | worthy: there is no bash 3.0 in debian |
| 01:30.03 | worthy | instead of installing and having two versions of bash |
| 01:30.10 | madradrone | worthy: apt-get install <package> will upgrade if there is an upgrade available |
| 01:30.17 | worthy | ok |
| 01:30.23 | grew | oh wait |
| 01:30.26 | grew | i can do vga=ask |
| 01:30.26 | grew | woot |
| 01:30.29 | grew | i remember that much :D |
| 01:30.30 | asg | worthy: /msg dpkg pinning |
| 01:30.34 | kspath | odla: TZ ?!?!? |
| 01:30.37 | amphi | grew: 0x318 is 1024x768x24bpp if that's any use to you ;) otherwise in the kernel source docs |
| 01:30.43 | worthy | pinning ok |
| 01:31.50 | asg | worthy: though, you are better off with backports if they are available (/msg dpkg backports) |
| 01:31.50 | zenwryly | Is there an easy way to restore one's rc*.d links? |
| 01:31.51 | grew | amphi: thats what i want! thanks |
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| 01:31.51 | nvz | worthy: yes, because with pinning its physically impossible to upgrade just that package |
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| 01:31.51 | g3brown | nvz: thanks... all good now |
| 01:31.51 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:join #flood |
| 01:31.52 | worthy | oh ok nvz |
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| 01:32.01 | raden | is there something i have todo to connect via Rlogin to a windows XP box ? |
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| 01:32.10 | raden | terminal services is running |
| 01:32.12 | asg | zenwryly: not really. |
| 01:32.23 | EdLin | raden: don't use rlogin, use ssh |
| 01:32.24 | nvz | worthy: it depends on a newer version of libc and libncurses |
| 01:32.28 | amphi | grew: that gives me 128x48 console here |
| 01:32.35 | EdLin | raden: Windows has putty, and Linux openssh |
| 01:32.41 | worthy | will it install those too? |
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| 01:32.44 | nvz | worthy: backports fix this by building against the packages actually in your distro |
| 01:32.51 | nvz | worthy: yes, it would if you installed from etch. |
| 01:33.04 | nvz | worthy: which would upgrade _everything_ on your system |
| 01:33.11 | nvz | worthy: as it all depends on libc6 |
| 01:33.11 | raden | EdLin, can u elaborate |
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| 01:33.46 | EdLin | raden: I think you know how to apt-get install ssh and how to use putty under Windows... |
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| 01:33.50 | worthy | damn someone had me take the etch respository out of my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:33.50 | zenwryly | asg: thanks |
| 01:34.04 | raden | never used putty |
| 01:34.07 | nvz | worthy: you would in effect by installing bash 3.x from etch or sid into sarge, you would be upgrading to etch or sid |
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| 01:34.12 | raden | not a very avid windows user |
| 01:34.33 | EdLin | raden: neither have I, but as it's a windows program I assume it's got a WIMP interface. |
| 01:34.34 | raden | we have 1 windows Box left in the office about 15 people need access to im trying to create a simple way for people to get the documents they need |
| 01:34.45 | nvz | worthy: check backports.org, apt-get.org, etc.. you need a package for sarge, or you have to upgrade the whole system |
| 01:35.02 | asg | raden: use samba |
| 01:35.07 | worthy | ok |
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| 01:35.19 | worthy | im not trying to do all taht |
| 01:35.20 | EdLin | raden: rlogin and ssh aren't the answer then... Use samba |
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| 01:35.33 | worthy | i just want the newest version of bash |
| 01:35.33 | nvz | worthy: then its good you asked first :P |
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| 01:36.06 | raden | not that easy they have to be able to run a few programs |
| 01:36.09 | raden | and wine isnt working |
| 01:36.15 | raden | and i dont have time |
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| 01:36.29 | raden | its an internal network not worried about security too much |
| 01:37.38 | humpi | whats the smallest installer available thats decently new |
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| 01:38.01 | EdLin | !d-i humpi |
| 01:38.01 | dpkg | humpi, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:38.33 | humpi | businesscards kind of too big |
| 01:38.56 | asg | humpi: you can install Debian with only two floppies if your ethernet card is supported. |
| 01:39.06 | humpi | well, wheres that at |
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| 01:39.38 | zenwryly | I want to reinstall from a reformat but I'd like to be able to use my downloaded cache of Debs to save download time. Is there a way to do this? |
| 01:39.50 | Gnea | humpi: same place, learn how to read |
| 01:40.05 | centrx | zenwryly, if you can safely transfer them somewhere and then back again, yes |
| 01:40.14 | centrx | zenwryly, you could burn onto a cd for instance, or put them on another partition, etc. |
| 01:40.15 | asg | zenwryly: just stick them in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 01:40.20 | EdLin | zenwryly: sure, copy the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives to your backup media, then after installing put them back there. |
| 01:40.20 | centrx | zenwryly, you simply put them in that very directory |
| 01:40.39 | EdLin | GMTA! |
| 01:40.40 | zenwryly | cools |
| 01:40.55 | zenwryly | so no "registry" files or somesuch to be reconciled? Nifty. |
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| 01:40.57 | zenwryly | thanks |
| 01:41.00 | nvz | Gnea: in this day, more and more people are able to learn to read as the public education system reaches darker corners of the globe.. comprehension is a whole different ball game |
| 01:41.04 | humpi | ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso will that one work? |
| 01:41.19 | centrx | zenwryly, no, and any settings are in discrete, well-labeled files in /etc/ |
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| 01:41.29 | centrx | zenwryly, or in your home directory |
| 01:41.32 | zenwryly | gotta love the beauty |
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| 01:41.34 | nitinshantharam | hey guys im using pureftp and i can connect to my server via internal ip (192.168.1.9) but i cant via hostname -> it says conencted but it freezes while getting a directory listing |
| 01:41.44 | Gnea | nvz: good point |
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| 01:42.04 | Azar | pureftp? wtf is that? |
| 01:42.09 | asg | nitinshantharam: use PASV or setup your firewall to handle active ftp |
| 01:42.16 | asg | Azar: just another ftpd |
| 01:42.16 | nvz | Gnea: I actually know an older black man that is a little slow and he made it all the way through school and graduated and cant read or write other than his name. He's a nice guy, and he's not really stupid or anything.. he's just a little slow and illiterate |
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| 01:42.29 | Azar | asg is that working with Debian? |
| 01:42.39 | nvz | Gnea: so its not to say that if you make it through public school you will even know how to read |
| 01:42.39 | asg | !info pureftpd sarge |
| 01:42.46 | nitinshantharam | asg: filezilla is using passive mode |
| 01:42.48 | nvz | Gnea: but its pretty certain if you can IRC you can read |
| 01:43.00 | pureone | pure-ftpd |
| 01:43.25 | asg | pureone: right |
| 01:43.42 | Gnea | nvz: comprehension is all about irc |
| 01:43.50 | Gnea | nvz: if you can't comprehend, you can't read |
| 01:44.02 | tarmack | can anyone tell me how to get a nice list for /etc/apt/source.list? |
| 01:44.03 | Azar | those who do not read end up in trouble |
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| 01:44.18 | Gnea | nvz: it's like reading one thing one minute, then forgetting about it completely the next... see *Alcohol Addiction |
| 01:44.20 | tarmack | i need to install wine |
| 01:44.27 | asg | Azar: people who read but don't understand end up in even more trouble. |
| 01:44.39 | nvz | Gnea: I dissagree. it is my understanding that reading is something you do or do not, there is no trying to read. but there are many different levels of comprehension |
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| 01:44.43 | kspath | Gnea: What were you talking about? |
| 01:44.52 | Azar | asg, right, that why took me 3 years to learn how to use Debian linux |
| 01:45.07 | Gnea | nvz: people can read the stop sign, but they can't read a sentence. |
| 01:45.07 | tarmack | anyone using DSL ? |
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| 01:45.20 | nekostar | dsl? |
| 01:45.20 | astronut | tarmack: as in internet? |
| 01:45.23 | asg | Azar: ;) |
| 01:45.24 | Gnea | !dsl |
| 01:45.24 | dpkg | it has been said that dsl is Digital Subscriber Line, the wonder technology the telcos will nevertheless find a way to turn into a con, or better than cable. http://www.dslreports.com or Damn Small Linux, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ |
| 01:45.25 | nekostar | i was for a bit |
| 01:45.25 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody know of a nice wrapper around partimage et al. that will backup partitions to a remote PC (ftp server? scp? sftp? preferbly not partimaged) or restore from there. It should be able to boot from a DOK. |
| 01:45.25 | grew | well shoot |
| 01:45.27 | tarmack | Damn small |
| 01:45.29 | nekostar | #damnsmalllinux |
| 01:45.32 | tarmack | ahh |
| 01:45.36 | grew | looks like my vid card is supportd by kernel framebuffer now |
| 01:45.36 | nekostar | ;) |
| 01:45.43 | xlotlu | i wish packages had ratings... |
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| 01:45.58 | asg | xlotlu: /msg dpkg popcon |
| 01:45.59 | crschmidt | Okay, I think I did a really stupid thing, and I don't know how to fix it. |
| 01:46.06 | nvz | Gnea: I think thats more recognising a symbol than reading. reading it seems implies recognition and comprehension to some certain degree. |
| 01:46.10 | Gnea | crschmidt: well, out with it :) |
| 01:46.13 | kspath | xlotlu: 1500 morons giving 5 stars will not help you a lot |
| 01:46.15 | Azar | asg the fact that I am a happy Debian user is only because I had a lot of willingness, to learn to understand what I read |
| 01:46.17 | asg | crschmidt: or restore from backups |
| 01:46.24 | crschmidt | asg: nah, not that stupid |
| 01:46.34 | Gnea | nvz: well yeah, anyone can know the difference between green/yellow/red lights |
| 01:46.35 | crschmidt | I'm attempting to migrate from one server to another. In the process, I copied over /var on the new server with /var from the old server |
| 01:46.39 | nvz | it seems there is a range of comprehension somewhere within that range is being able to read |
| 01:46.40 | tzafrir_laptop | I tried mondorescue, but it does not seem to be able to use remote locations apart from NFS |
| 01:46.41 | crschmidt | (not thinking "uh, stop the services first, you moron" |
| 01:46.42 | crschmidt | ) |
| 01:46.45 | xlotlu | kspath: statistics should work, even with 1500 morons |
| 01:46.50 | kspath | xlotlu: if however they were extended reviews with logic/reason that might be a neat idea LONG term |
| 01:46.53 | Azar | packages.. ratings? like "adult" "child-proof" etc? |
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| 01:47.06 | asg | Azar: I was thinking more along the lines of 'I read X ... followed stupid instructions ... only have one arm'. Fooling with Debian will likely not cause you grievous bodily harm. |
| 01:47.07 | crschmidt | so... now most of my services: postfix, mysql, etc. -- aren't writing to the logs, presumably because they were still running when I overwrote them or something? |
| 01:47.16 | Gnea | nvz: that doesn't mean they can read the first chapter of hamlet and have the first clue as to what the author was trying to convey |
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| 01:47.21 | xlotlu | popcon's nice |
| 01:47.23 | crschmidt | I've attempted to restart postfix and mysql, but neither they nor /var/log/messages is being appended to by anything. |
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| 01:47.40 | crschmidt | It doesn't *look* like a permissions issue -- the servers are both debian sarge, and permissions on the files are the same. |
| 01:47.46 | crschmidt | But I don't know what else it could be, or how to fix it. |
| 01:47.54 | kspath | xlotlu: not really, you are thinking active communications. ratings are somewhat static unless there are extended reasoning associated that can impact future ratings/reviews |
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| 01:47.59 | xlotlu | kspath: i usually find myself overwhelmed with debian when i need to install something i haven't done before.. too much choice |
| 01:48.00 | Gnea | crschmidt: restart the syslog, then restart the services |
| 01:48.01 | encrypt | supposing i am connected with ADSL through eth0, and with Dial-up through ppp0.. is it possible to add both gateways as default? I mean, my subnet using both gateways ramdonly? |
| 01:48.07 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: i am ready to check the kernel |
| 01:48.07 | Azar | asg, it causes lots of aggravations for a green newbie at linux in general, anger, frustration, desperation and next day, sigh and start over |
| 01:48.10 | benjamindees | krassy1809, uname -a |
| 01:48.10 | Golfgeo | How do I append a parameter for a kernel module to lilo? |
| 01:48.21 | nvz | Gnea: yeah well understanding fine work of an old english poet is way higer on the comprehension scale than merely being able to read |
| 01:48.25 | benjamindees | krassy1809, dpkg-query -W kernel-image-2.6.8* |
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| 01:48.37 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: Linux Yoda 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:49.03 | asg | Azar: indeed; I've seen the same sentiments with newbies on Windows / MacOS |
| 01:49.12 | krassy1809 | ernel-image-2.6.8 custom268patched |
| 01:49.12 | krassy1809 | kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 2.6.8-16sarge1 |
| 01:49.13 | krassy1809 | kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 2.6.8-16sarge1 |
| 01:49.14 | Gnea | nvz: most public schools utilize the works of old english poet in order to grasp the english language |
| 01:49.14 | kspath | xlotlu: too much choice is relative. often there are only a couple of choices try a few and use google/yahoo to drill down through sites about them |
| 01:49.15 | crschmidt | Gnea: do they need to be off when I restart syslog? /etc/init.d/klogd restart, followed by mysql, postfix restart... |
| 01:49.19 | crschmidt | didn't fix it. |
| 01:49.53 | nvz | Gnea: yeah I noticed. too bad not all teachers are as smart as they thing they are.. I could teach more about shakespear than most of the people who tried to teach it to me. |
| 01:49.54 | Gnea | crschmidt: klogd is the kernel logger, you want to restart the system logger - sysklogd |
| 01:50.02 | asg | Gnea: the venerable bede is not usually taught in public schools |
| 01:50.12 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: did you see all rows |
| 01:50.18 | benjamindees | krassy1809, yeah looks okay |
| 01:50.22 | Gnea | nvz: considering that every so often the teachers go on strike... |
| 01:50.44 | nvz | Gnea: I had to point out to my english teacher in high school why the prince spared romeo's life, as he never realized it. |
| 01:50.46 | Gnea | asg: it depends where you go to school, really |
| 01:50.50 | asg | Gnea: of course |
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| 01:50.52 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: i have been forget "*" |
| 01:51.03 | benjamindees | krassy1809, rmmod 8139too , then insmod ./rtl8139too.ko |
| 01:51.12 | crschmidt | Gnea: thanks |
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| 01:51.19 | Azar | teachers only do the teaching as a routine job, thats why they lack a lot of new ways of doing it, plus they do not bother with extra tips around a topic |
| 01:51.23 | benjamindees | krassy1809, oops, rmmod 8139too , then insmod ./8139too.ko |
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| 01:51.31 | crschmidt | Gnea: hm. Still not working. |
| 01:51.33 | crschmidt | I'll play with it. |
| 01:51.35 | Gnea | nvz: are you sure he hadn't realized it? maybe he was so good that he tricked you into believing that |
| 01:52.00 | xlotlu | kspath: that's what i always do... but take now for example: i'm going through the docs and features of courier, cyrus, dovecot, uw-imap and mailutils-imap to decide on an imap daemon to install... |
| 01:52.27 | grew | courier works very well |
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| 01:52.30 | Azar | ok guys now I want to know what's new about nvidia one liner, I was being recommended this back when I was doing a fresh install, now I see most here are against it. What's the beef? |
| 01:52.32 | xlotlu | kspath: the info is good in the long term.. but now i'm just in a hurry |
| 01:52.35 | nvz | Gnea: no we were talking about various screenplays and films of it and I was discussing with him (after school) about the differences in them.. as most people scoff at the modernized screenplays |
| 01:52.35 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: on rmmod 8139too the system say :ERROR: Module 8139too does not exist in /proc/modules |
| 01:52.45 | Gnea | !nvidia one-liner |
| 01:52.46 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia one-liner was update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 01:52.57 | benjamindees | krassy1809, that's okay |
| 01:52.58 | Azar | Gnea, I know it, and it works like a charm for me |
| 01:52.58 | Gnea | hrm |
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| 01:53.10 | kspath | xlotlu: hurry for what? hurry and pick dovecot or courier they are both decent |
| 01:53.12 | tarmack | hi again |
| 01:53.13 | Azar | Gnea but everytime I recommend it to a new user, people here seem against it? |
| 01:53.17 | Gnea | Azar: i don't see what's wrong with it... unless you've got a toshiba laptop |
| 01:53.21 | nvz | Gnea: the one Baz Lutherman did, not only followed the script word-for-word but it illistrated it far better than any other I have seen. They gave more context to a lot of things people overlook |
| 01:53.28 | Gnea | Azar: who? |
| 01:53.39 | tarmack | anyone have a spare sourcelist.list i can borrow? |
| 01:53.50 | tarmack | for apt-get? |
| 01:53.50 | Azar | hmm I do not remember, I guess bucky .. |
| 01:53.51 | kspath | xlotlu: do it right or do not do it, else do something quickly like use courier or dovecot and be done with it |
| 01:53.53 | asg | tarmack: /msg dpkg sources.list |
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| 01:54.01 | asg | tarmack: use apt-setup if you are on stable also |
| 01:54.09 | Gnea | !tell tarmack about mirrors |
| 01:54.25 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:on insmod the system say :insmod: error inserting './8139too.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module |
| 01:54.42 | asg | !tell Gnea about smoke |
| 01:54.49 | nvz | Gnea: I had pointed out that the prince was a black man in that version, as was marcutio you which being the only two black men in the movie helped draw more context to them than the script did. |
| 01:54.55 | Gnea | heh |
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| 01:55.09 | Gnea | asg: good luck with that, it ain't easy but it's possible ;) |
| 01:55.12 | benjamindees | krassy1809, ugh |
| 01:55.27 | asg | Gnea: agreed, I've not succeeded so far :/ |
| 01:55.33 | benjamindees | krassy1809, let me reboot for a sec, brb... |
| 01:55.39 | asg | nvz: shall we Othellosmite you now or later? |
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| 01:55.58 | nvz | asg: I didnt know about the Othellosmite |
| 01:56.02 | Gnea | asg: you have to survive the first 3 days, then the first week, then the first 21 days. after that, you're homefree |
| 01:56.13 | asg | nvz: it's only a 'dpkg Othellosmite is ...' away ;) |
| 01:56.36 | asg | Gnea: I did 6 weeks on Zyban. That's the best I've managed so far. |
| 01:56.46 | nvz | asg: oh. makes me think about Michael |
| 01:56.54 | Gnea | asg: idiot. you replaced one narcotic with another. |
| 01:56.59 | Gnea | that's not quitting. |
| 01:56.59 | asg | nvz: Huffnel? |
| 01:57.04 | nvz | asg: Jackson |
| 01:57.05 | asg | Gnea: so I realized. |
| 01:57.07 | asg | nvz: ah |
| 01:57.08 | Gnea | asg: you have to go cold turkey. :) |
| 01:57.20 | nvz | he looks like an alien now |
| 01:57.27 | asg | Gnea: that's the conclusion I've come to |
| 01:57.34 | Gnea | asg: so you say |
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| 01:57.40 | asg | nvz: he hasn't looked human since 86 |
| 01:57.41 | nvz | well at least what aliens looked like on tv in the mid 90s |
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| 01:58.01 | Gnea | asg: do you smoke inside or out? |
| 01:58.12 | asg | Gnea: only outside |
| 01:58.28 | Gnea | asg: good job! that's what i always did too |
| 01:58.39 | asg | Gnea: I personally wish all restaurants and bars were non-smoking also. |
| 01:58.41 | nvz | asg: yeah well when his face ate his nose, it was the icing on the cake |
| 01:58.47 | Gnea | hehe, it helps huh |
| 01:58.51 | asg | nvz: yeah |
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| 01:59.09 | nvz | I think he's trying to forget he was born a black man. he really wants to be a white woman |
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| 01:59.14 | asg | Gnea: it does but I prefer it for other reasons. |
| 01:59.14 | crschmidt | Gnea: Yeah, sysklogd restart didn't help either |
| 01:59.17 | Gnea | asg: you yeah, you're in the carolinas.. heh, that'll never happen there, you'd need to move to new york or california |
| 01:59.25 | Gnea | i don't know where else banned it |
| 01:59.25 | nitinshantharam | hey guys im using pure-ftp and i can connect to my server via internal ip (192.168.1.9) but i cant via hostname -> it says conencted but it freezes while getting a directory listing |
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| 02:00.10 | kspath | nvz: self hatred, he looks at his skin colour and nose size/shape like anorexics look at their body. |
| 02:00.13 | Gnea | crschmidt: not sure then :/ |
| 02:00.19 | drasko_ | hi all. how to enable local eth0 interface to be on after star of the system, not to have to write ifup eth0 every time I boot? |
| 02:00.23 | asg | Gnea: funnily enough, I went to a new restaurant, went to the bar, lit up, and was scolded since it was totally non-smoking. There weren't any signs. Interesting for this part of the country. |
| 02:00.25 | nvz | kspath: yeah thats what I was thinking |
| 02:00.35 | Doctor | anyone know of a simple smtpd that will just dump recieved messages to files? |
| 02:00.43 | Gnea | asg: heh |
| 02:00.45 | worthy | i just installed bash3 |
| 02:00.55 | Gnea | Doctor: exim4 |
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| 02:01.15 | asg | Gnea: the smoked turkey and bree + cranberry-jalapeno chutney should have tipped me off though. |
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| 02:01.49 | kspath | nvz: It makes me sick. He was a decent/good looking young black man but now he is a punch line in sad/sick jokes. |
| 02:02.04 | benjamindees | krassy1809, okay, try this, rmmod 8139too |
| 02:02.11 | benjamindees | krassy1809, rmmod mii |
| 02:02.24 | nvz | kspath: yeah.. he would have made a much better looking black man, than he will an old white woman |
| 02:02.24 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:ok |
| 02:02.27 | drasko_ | hi all. how to enable local eth0 interface to be on after star of the system, not to have to write ifup eth0 every time I boot? |
| 02:02.33 | benjamindees | krassy1809, modprobe mii , then insmod ./8139too |
| 02:02.42 | asg | drasko_: add 'auto eth0' to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:03.05 | kspath | nvz: old white woman with a nose more like a new world monkey / birds beek |
| 02:03.06 | Gnea | asg: i had no idea |
| 02:03.10 | nvz | kspath: if he wasnt so tall and skinny you'd almost thing he was capt'n crunch |
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| 02:03.23 | asg | Gnea: about the chutney or the 'auto eth0' ? |
| 02:03.33 | Gnea | asg: chutney |
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| 02:03.39 | Gnea | :) |
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| 02:03.49 | asg | Gnea: rather tasty but not at all native to these parts ;) |
| 02:04.05 | Gnea | asg: that's okay, i really have no idea what chutney IS ;) |
| 02:04.14 | asg | Gnea: a relish |
| 02:04.18 | drasko_ | asg, I have line auto lo eth1. Should this be auto lo eth0. eth1 is my internet device, eth0 local device |
| 02:04.36 | asg | drasko_: if you want eth0 up on boot, then auto should include eth0 |
| 02:04.58 | asg | drasko_: auto lo eth0 eth1 (for the whole lot) |
| 02:05.05 | Gnea | mmm cranberries |
| 02:05.15 | drasko_ | asg, thanks! |
| 02:05.21 | asg | drasko_: you're welcome |
| 02:05.21 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: rmmod 8139too say :ERROR: Module 8139too does not exist in /proc/modules |
| 02:05.31 | benjamindees | krassy1809, okay, no problem |
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| 02:05.34 | Gnea | asg: y'know, being able to taste and smell everything has been theh biggest benefit |
| 02:05.45 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: rmmod mii say:ERROR: Module 8139too does not exist in /proc/modules |
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| 02:05.56 | benjamindees | krassy1809, also fine |
| 02:06.00 | Gnea | i used to eat just to stop being hungry |
| 02:06.04 | kspath | nvz: if he had not been so rich he could not have afforded all that bleaching and surgery and there would have been people that told him he was stupid. When you are rich people suck up to you and avoid confrontation. Look what happened to Elvis. If he had not been rich he might still be alive today. |
| 02:06.20 | monteiro | what do i need in my kernel, to i've usb pens working? when i trie to mount a pen, it says the codepage is not correct. |
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| 02:06.53 | asg | Gnea: I've only ever eaten things that tasted good |
| 02:06.56 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: modprobe mii don`t say anything |
| 02:07.02 | centrx | mmm, chalk |
| 02:07.03 | benjamindees | krassy1809, good |
| 02:07.06 | Gnea | monteiro: usb-storage |
| 02:07.13 | Gnea | asg: hahaha |
| 02:07.18 | asg | Gnea: or rather, I don't eat things that taste like crap again. |
| 02:07.19 | monteiro | Gnea : tks |
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| 02:07.36 | kspath | nvz: sorry I kept going on and on off-topic so debian is very cool keeping using it more |
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| 02:07.57 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:insmod ./8139too say :insmod: can't read './8139too': No such file or directory |
| 02:08.07 | nvz | kspath: as long as the power doesnt go out (again) I plan on it |
| 02:08.12 | benjamindees | krassy1809, go to the directory where you downloaded it... |
| 02:08.35 | nvz | the power was on an off many times this afternoon contributing to my hardware's failure someday.. |
| 02:08.49 | Gnea | asg: yeah, that's what most people tend to do - the benefit is being able to use the remaining brain cells that usually delight from the nicotine rush to focus on the tastes associated with various foods - so yummy foods become yummier |
| 02:08.53 | asg | nvz: UPS, UPS |
| 02:08.59 | kspath | Windowz powers your power infrastructure? |
| 02:09.10 | asg | Gnea: post facto, of course |
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| 02:09.12 | nvz | I think a tree fell in the wind or something.. as a wreck or something else would just take it down and it would stay down for a few hours |
| 02:09.25 | AssO | njjjjjj |
| 02:09.33 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:i don`t have downloaded file with this name |
| 02:09.33 | nvz | asg: they cost too much. at least for one that has any real lifespan |
| 02:09.41 | asg | nvz: don't I know it |
| 02:09.43 | Gnea | asg: i also found i had more money ;) |
| 02:10.03 | asg | Gnea: true, though money isn't a limiting factor in my case. |
| 02:10.12 | benjamindees | krassy1809, crap, sorry, insmod ./8139too.ko |
| 02:10.18 | asg | !insmod |
| 02:10.18 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
| 02:10.38 | Gnea | asg: if you found yourself in the hospital, you might rethink that |
| 02:10.52 | doogster | Hope I'm not interrupting, but I need help. I'm running Unstable and I can't compile opengl programs... |
| 02:10.54 | benjamindees | asg, what's the reason for that "never use under 2.6" stuff? |
| 02:11.11 | asg | Gnea: yes. The last time I saw a doctor though was in the early 80s |
| 02:11.13 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:now insmod 8139too.ko don`t say enything |
| 02:11.24 | benjamindees | krassy1809, dmesg|grep eth |
| 02:11.24 | Gnea | doogster: what else are you using? did you install the -dev half of libraries? which compiler? |
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| 02:11.36 | asg | benjamindees: dunno, I didn't write the whole factoid. |
| 02:11.38 | nvz | benjamindees: its deprecated. the module code in 2.6 was completly rewritten |
| 02:11.50 | Gnea | asg: yeah, it's been since the early 90's since i saw one, who knows wtf is wrong |
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| 02:12.12 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:go to #flood |
| 02:12.27 | doogster | Gnea: I'm using gcc 4.01, and I've installed the -dev halves of the mesagl libraries that come with x |
| 02:12.48 | Gnea | asg: i had the insurance to do it, too, but work was so overwelming that i never found the time |
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| 02:12.53 | asg | Gnea: I'm sure there are lots of *official* things wrong. I don't buy into the 'pill-for-every-ailment-under-the-sun' mentality. |
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| 02:13.06 | Gnea | asg: same here |
| 02:13.22 | doogster | Gnea: Specificcally, I do have xlibmesa-gl-dev installed. |
| 02:13.24 | Gnea | doogster: what video card? |
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| 02:13.30 | bcc | hi guys, how can i install libapache2-mod-php4 package if i use custom installed apache2? |
| 02:13.38 | Gnea | doogster: what are you trying to compile? |
| 02:13.50 | Arafangion | None in the tablet form anyway. |
| 02:13.51 | benjamindees | krassy1809, no eth1 ? |
| 02:13.54 | doogster | Gnea: An s3 savage card with the dri drivers set up. glxinfo gives me "direct rendering: yes" |
| 02:13.55 | Gnea | ibuprofin is about all i take nowadays |
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| 02:13.58 | asg | bcc: if your custom installation provides all the real packages does, use equivs |
| 02:14.01 | dvs | !wayc doogster |
| 02:14.02 | dpkg | doogster: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 02:14.18 | nvz | insmod & rmmod are the old way of doing things, now modprobe does it all and a whole lot more |
| 02:14.34 | doogster | I want to compile prboom for opengl support because the apt-gettable version does not support opengl. |
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| 02:14.58 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:Yes NO eht1 |
| 02:14.58 | asg | bcc: however, if you are intent on compiling apache, you might as well go the rest of the way and compile php4 also. |
| 02:15.01 | Gnea | doogster: what source are you using? |
| 02:15.06 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:Yes NO eth1 |
| 02:15.14 | bcc | asg: well, i used the tarball on the apache site to compile apache 2.2. it does not seem to have mod_php in it. besies, i was wondering if i could use a package so that i can upgrade it with other packages with aptitude update, etc. |
| 02:15.17 | doogster | The unstable one. Version 2.30. |
| 02:15.20 | Gnea | !tell krassy1809 about repeat |
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| 02:15.38 | Aid` | hello, I need to know if there is a way to get your sound 'louder' than the max lets you. let me explain songs are usually loud enough. But when i go to play movies the sound is wayyyyyy too quiet even with the volume up to max on the video player AND the main volume control. Is there anyway to make the range higher? |
| 02:15.46 | bcc | asg: well, yeah. that's what i don't want to do. i don't want to upgrade it manually in the future. |
| 02:16.06 | asg | bcc: equivs is a quick hack to fakeout the package management system. You have to know that your locally compiled code provides the same dependancies as the original package or you will have issues. |
| 02:16.21 | miki | wich kind of files debian can decompress ? |
| 02:16.22 | Gnea | doogster: i mean, are you using the prboom source from the webpage or the apt source? |
| 02:16.23 | asg | bcc: is there any compelling reason to have apache 2.2? |
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| 02:16.28 | benjamindees | krassy1809, lsmod|grep mii |
| 02:16.28 | miki | can it decompress zip? |
| 02:16.38 | asg | miki: /msg dpkg unzip |
| 02:16.40 | bcc | asg: thanks. i'll read about it. |
| 02:16.42 | dvs | miki: Get ready for this... unzip! |
| 02:16.45 | bcc | it seems like what i need. |
| 02:16.50 | doogster | Gnea: sorry, i was using the prboom source from sourceforge. |
| 02:16.54 | Gnea | miki: yes |
| 02:16.56 | miki | asg: thank |
| 02:17.00 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:say :mii 4864 1 8139too |
| 02:17.01 | miki | you all :D |
| 02:17.02 | Gnea | !zip |
| 02:17.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, zip is the file extension of the archive format formerly known as PK-Zip. Use "zip" to create them and "unzip" to extract them. |
| 02:17.06 | asg | bcc: still, if you don't have a need for 2.2, then just stick with the Debian packages. |
| 02:17.18 | bcc | asg: i needed the ajp proxy among other things. |
| 02:17.28 | Gnea | doogster: you should apt-get source prboom |
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| 02:17.53 | miki | actually my problem is a bit harder... let me explain everything :( |
| 02:17.54 | BucHOME | what modules must i have loaded to have my system recognize my usb memory stick? |
| 02:17.57 | bcc | asg: is eqivs a strictly debian thing for dpkg? |
| 02:18.11 | asg | bcc: well, you could use a custom compiled apache listening on a non-standard port and use mod_proxy to send certain urls to that. Then use the Debian apache + php for the rest. |
| 02:18.13 | dvs | BucHOME: usb-storage and your USB interface |
| 02:18.14 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:i need to tell you - i don`t have more then 1/2 hour |
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| 02:18.21 | BucHOME | when i insert it my box doesn't power the stick on. i know this because the led on the stick is off |
| 02:18.26 | doogster | I'll try that... |
| 02:18.35 | BucHOME | dvs will that require a kernel recompile? |
| 02:18.41 | benjamindees | krassy1809, try 'modprobe crc32' , then 'rmmod 8139too' , then 'insmod ./8139too.ko' |
| 02:18.47 | dvs | BucHOME: Not if you have a debian kernel |
| 02:18.58 | grew | woah, whats with the new firefox icon |
| 02:18.59 | asg | bcc: equivs is a debian thing (making fake debs that claim to provide certain things so dependancies are satisfied.) |
| 02:19.01 | grew | its stupid globe |
| 02:19.02 | crschmidt | Gnea: apt-get remove sysklogd; apt-get install sysklogd seems to have fixed things |
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| 02:19.11 | crschmidt | (followed by restarting the services) |
| 02:19.12 | miki | im trying to install my usb modem on debian, so i can use apc to get everything i need... problem is that its usb modem, requiring me to install alot packages... ones i downloaded via windows are bigged than fdd(1.56MB *.deb files, etc) |
| 02:19.27 | bcc | asg: thanks. i'm reading about it now. |
| 02:19.33 | bcc | asg: that's what i was looking for. |
| 02:19.55 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:modprobe crc32 say :FATAL: Module crc32 not found. |
| 02:19.56 | miki | so i cant copy them on hdd, unless i will pack them somehow... is there any way to pack files in windows so basic netinstall of debian will read format? |
| 02:19.57 | gravity | SimonRaven: pong |
| 02:20.08 | miki | like tar.gz packer for windows |
| 02:20.37 | BucHOME | dvs i want to have it where my box automatically copies a file from the hdd to usb stick when it is inserted and then unmount it after 15 seconds. what is your advice on doing this? |
| 02:20.43 | asg | gravity: 2 hour+ latency |
| 02:20.57 | grew | what happened to the msttcorefonts package? apt says it cant find it |
| 02:21.00 | gravity | asg: I've been out |
| 02:21.15 | benjamindees | okay, we'll try one last thing... |
| 02:21.16 | asg | gravity: hopefully you had fun, adventure, and really wild things :) |
| 02:21.24 | Guerin | grew: as opposed to what? |
| 02:21.25 | asg | !info msttcorefonts |
| 02:21.27 | dpkg | msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section contrib/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2 (sid), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB |
| 02:21.34 | asg | grew: ^^^^ |
| 02:21.38 | dvs | BucHOME: I'd use udev and a script triggered by udev |
| 02:21.39 | grew | hmm |
| 02:21.39 | Guerin | grew: sorry, re. the firefox icon |
| 02:21.48 | grew | i guess the mirror im using doesnt have it |
| 02:21.52 | asg | grew: make sure you have 'contrib' sources |
| 02:21.53 | benjamindees | krassy1809, mv /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko.old |
| 02:21.59 | gravity | asg: Heh, if you can call "eating dinner" that, then yeah :-) |
| 02:22.03 | grew | Guerin: the orange fox one |
| 02:22.04 | slara | when is packages.debian.org going to be back? |
| 02:22.14 | asg | gravity: :) |
| 02:22.20 | grew | Guerin: the one installed is just a green globe, not the fox wrapped around the globe one |
| 02:22.28 | asg | slara: it will be advertised in our /topic |
| 02:22.28 | Guerin | grew: debian will be able to distribute it once the mozilla foundation makes it dfsg free |
| 02:22.37 | grew | ohh ic |
| 02:22.40 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:that don`t say anything |
| 02:22.41 | SimonRaven | gravity: i was wondering what were the advantages of using quilt vs. dpatch; i think you have some experience with both? |
| 02:22.47 | gravity | SimonRaven: quilt++ |
| 02:22.49 | benjamindees | krassy1809, ls /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko.old |
| 02:22.50 | asg | slara: if you are looking for 'search' functionality, /msg dpkg search |
| 02:22.53 | BucHOME | dvs what is udev? i take it using udev will solve the mystery of me not knowing what /dev/ the system will see the usb stick as? either /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc ? |
| 02:22.58 | BucHOME | !man udev |
| 02:23.00 | miki | is there any good way to pack files underwindows, so basic debian netinstal 110mb will be able to unpack those files? |
| 02:23.09 | BucHOME | !dpkg udev |
| 02:23.09 | dpkg | from memory, udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 |
| 02:23.13 | SimonRaven | gravity: how so? easier to manage the patches? |
| 02:23.28 | gravity | SimonRaven: Yes. It's not as foolproof, but it's waaay faster and more powerful on the whole |
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| 02:23.33 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:that say : /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko.old |
| 02:23.34 | asg | miki: zip, unzip. It depends on what you mean by 'basic debian netinstal 110mb will be able to unpack those files' |
| 02:23.42 | benjamindees | krassy1809, cp ./8139too.ko /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/net |
| 02:23.43 | slara | asg: yes, but i need to doenload som deb's that i don't have in the netinstall |
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| 02:23.53 | gravity | SimonRaven: You have to tell it which files you want to include in your patch, and it'll only diff those |
| 02:23.59 | miki | asg: i got 110mb debian cd |
| 02:23.59 | SimonRaven | gravity: thanks |
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| 02:24.03 | gravity | SimonRaven: It's also got a ton of nifty things liek making a patch dependency tree using dot |
| 02:24.07 | SimonRaven | gravity: i see |
| 02:24.12 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:ok is done |
| 02:24.22 | benjamindees | krassy1809, depmod -A |
| 02:24.26 | asg | slara: then download them. When you have a base debian system up, copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives or 'dpkg -i <deb>' |
| 02:24.26 | gravity | SimonRaven: And it doesn't have the cracktacular "patches as scripts" that dpatch does |
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| 02:24.49 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:ok is done too |
| 02:25.00 | SimonRaven | that's a plus |
| 02:25.33 | slara | asg: the files are to install the DSL modem. i need to get the packages on "another" system |
| 02:25.40 | benjamindees | krassy1809, 'rmmod mii' , then 'rmmod 8139too' |
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| 02:26.24 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:rmmod mii say:ERROR: Module mii is in use by 8139to |
| 02:26.38 | gravity | SimonRaven: What are you wanting to use them on? |
| 02:26.46 | dvs | krassy1809: modprobe -r mii |
| 02:26.51 | benjamindees | krassy1809, oops, okay reverse the order of those commands |
| 02:26.55 | asg | slara: then you are better off with the first Debian CD to install a base system. |
| 02:26.55 | gravity | SimonRaven: Oh, and quilt is great for making a quick patch to anything. I use it when I file bugs with patches for packages I don't know |
| 02:27.04 | benjamindees | krassy1809, 'rmmod 8139too' , then 'rmmod mii' |
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| 02:27.17 | miki | i found it already, nvm :0 |
| 02:27.33 | SimonRaven | gravity: i was thinkingmaybe quilt is a little less braindead than dpatch; openldap 2.3 and cyrus-imap 2.3 |
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| 02:27.54 | slara | aasg: yes, but there is no other way to get access to the repositories? |
| 02:28.06 | konfuzed | anyone here happen to be in Toronto |
| 02:28.18 | SimonRaven | no |
| 02:28.23 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:2 jobs is done without errors |
| 02:28.29 | gravity | SimonRaven: It's a lot less braindead. Have a look. If you have any questions about using it, feel free to ask. Also, the xorg sources have some stuff you can steal to set it up |
| 02:28.30 | asg | slara: your networking hardware is not supported by the netinstall, there really isn't much you can do. |
| 02:28.35 | odla | konfuzed: are you in ottawa? |
| 02:28.35 | benjamindees | krassy1809, good, now 'modprobe 8139too' |
| 02:28.43 | SimonRaven | gravity: thanks :) |
| 02:28.44 | dvs | konfuzed: Is Ajax close enough? ;-) |
| 02:28.47 | konfuzed | odla: no toronto |
| 02:29.02 | slara | asg: ok, thanks |
| 02:29.03 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:done |
| 02:29.07 | SimonRaven | i know montreal is too far ;) |
| 02:29.20 | asg | !hug Canada |
| 02:29.21 | konfuzed | dvs i have an open offer for one person to make $150 for election day |
| 02:29.24 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:without errors |
| 02:29.28 | benjamindees | krassy1809, dmesg|grep eth1 |
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| 02:29.41 | dvs | konfuzed: Sorry, I already voted |
| 02:29.49 | konfuzed | dpkg: Canada hugs you back |
| 02:29.58 | konfuzed | dvs: even better |
| 02:30.14 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:ok no errors |
| 02:30.18 | SimonRaven | canaduh |
| 02:30.23 | kspath | any of you all using UPC on AMD64 or x86? |
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| 02:30.31 | konfuzed | Can Of Duh |
| 02:30.31 | benjamindees | krassy1809, actually that's not a good sign |
| 02:30.34 | odla | fun of the |
| 02:30.36 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: don`t say anyting |
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| 02:30.54 | odla | election |
| 02:31.08 | SimonRaven | "election" |
| 02:31.12 | monteiro | is there anyway that i could create a fat filesystem in a pen in Linux ? I've a file in a pen, that is with an error, and if i create the fat filesystem, maybe that could solve it ? |
| 02:31.13 | comradek | Are there any resources on the web for using external hard drives in linux? |
| 02:31.14 | asg | odla: I'd comment but I don't have to |
| 02:31.21 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:do you want to stop ? |
| 02:31.31 | konfuzed | odla: you must be drunk ;^) USA elections has been a laughable con for more than 50 years |
| 02:31.32 | SimonRaven | i already commented ;) |
| 02:31.37 | benjamindees | krassy1809, unfortunately I don't know what else to try :( |
| 02:31.44 | asg | SimonRaven: touche |
| 02:32.02 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:i will test this NIC to another machine |
| 02:32.06 | benjamindees | krassy1809, you're sure you booted the correct kernel? I'm not sure how to test exactly |
| 02:32.14 | SimonRaven | see my blog ;) |
| 02:32.23 | benjamindees | krassy1809, you should move the files back that we changed... |
| 02:32.51 | konfuzed | but more importantly than politics I can get 150 bucks for someone to help out at the Polling Station ;^) |
| 02:32.55 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:i am sure |
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| 02:33.16 | konfuzed | rather the $150 goes to the one who would help out not me ;^) |
| 02:33.25 | Xenguy | SimonRaven: blog? |
| 02:33.29 | konfuzed | i already get 200 ;^) |
| 02:33.38 | benjamindees | krassy1809, rm /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko |
| 02:33.38 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:if i boot now from another kernel do i have problems |
| 02:33.45 | SimonRaven | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/bin/view/Blog/ |
| 02:33.52 | asg | Xenguy: simon's been blogging for a long time |
| 02:33.53 | benjamindees | krassy1809, no just this kernel |
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| 02:34.05 | Xenguy | SimonRaven: tx |
| 02:34.25 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:this is done |
| 02:34.32 | SimonRaven | might be a bit slow, i'm building stuff =;) |
| 02:34.36 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:rm i meen |
| 02:34.47 | Xenguy | SimonRaven: I was gonna say ;-) |
| 02:34.49 | comradek | How do I mount a USB external drive, anyone? |
| 02:34.55 | asg | comradek: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 02:35.06 | comradek | thanks |
| 02:35.10 | fbh | congrats, comradek |
| 02:35.12 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:do you everyday in this chat ? |
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| 02:35.18 | SimonRaven | also the isp i think fucked up my external routing ... |
| 02:35.22 | benjamindees | krassy1809, mv /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko.old /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko |
| 02:35.24 | Xenguy | SimonRaven: that's long enough to qualify as inaccessible ;-) |
| 02:35.30 | asg | comradek: if you're an irc noob also, then '/msg dpkg usb-storage' is something you type into your client so our bot can inform you. |
| 02:35.32 | benjamindees | krassy1809, not every day |
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| 02:36.01 | SimonRaven | yeh yeh |
| 02:36.06 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: 2 times in week or less ? |
| 02:36.26 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: mv is done |
| 02:36.35 | monteiro | where i could get mkfs.vfat ? |
| 02:36.40 | benjamindees | krassy1809, depmod -A |
| 02:36.45 | asg | monteiro: /msg dpkg search |
| 02:36.52 | benjamindees | krassy1809, usually a few times a week |
| 02:36.56 | monteiro | asg : tks |
| 02:37.11 | comradek | how do I load the usb-storage and sd_mod modules as described in the message from dpkg? |
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| 02:37.21 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: depmod is ok |
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| 02:37.25 | asg | comradek: modprobe usb-storage ; modprobe sd_mod |
| 02:37.26 | dvs | comradek: modprobe as root |
| 02:37.31 | comradek | roger |
| 02:37.31 | SimonRaven | /etc/modules, modprobe |
| 02:37.35 | crschmidt | More on copying /var from another server... |
| 02:37.42 | crschmidt | "who" is now showing users that aren't actually logged in |
| 02:37.44 | dvs | comradek: no, modprobe. ;-) |
| 02:37.46 | benjamindees | krassy1809, okay well you're done, sorry it didn't work |
| 02:37.48 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: i will keep you informed about this NIC |
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| 02:38.10 | benjamindees | krassy1809, it doesn't appear to be supported in recent kernels either |
| 02:38.22 | jetscreamer | so the ddrescue in sources is the one that's compatible with dd_rhelp ? |
| 02:38.25 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: Thank you very much |
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| 02:38.34 | benjamindees | krassy1809, no problem |
| 02:38.41 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: very very |
| 02:38.44 | SimonRaven | crschmidt: no kdding |
| 02:38.47 | SimonRaven | i |
| 02:38.52 | krassy1809 | where you from ? |
| 02:38.54 | miki | dvs: am i allowed to unpack splitted files from few fdds with apt-zip ? |
| 02:39.07 | dvs | miki: No clue |
| 02:39.13 | crschmidt | Okay, to be more clear in what I want: how do I make who 'wake up' and realize that it's wrong? |
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| 02:39.23 | miki | dvs: do you know any unpacker wich can? |
| 02:39.32 | dvs | miki: Nope |
| 02:39.33 | benjamindees | krassy1809, Oklahoma, US |
| 02:39.56 | SimonRaven | crschmidt: your /var/*/*tmp files |
| 02:40.25 | jetscreamer | rar ? |
| 02:40.33 | SimonRaven | rawr |
| 02:40.39 | jetscreamer | zip? |
| 02:40.45 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: i am from bulgaria europe . i have a cyber cafe with 26 PC |
| 02:40.47 | jetscreamer | unzip? |
| 02:40.55 | SimonRaven | *unzip* |
| 02:41.01 | odla | unrar |
| 02:41.13 | jetscreamer | no no dating factoid plz |
| 02:41.15 | SimonRaven | that's when you're done :P |
| 02:41.17 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: i am beginer in linux |
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| 02:41.34 | comradek | Ok, the modules should be loaded. It isn't showing up in my /dev directory as sda or sdb =/ |
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| 02:41.40 | crschmidt | SimonRaven: a la wtmp, btmp, utmp? |
| 02:41.42 | crschmidt | I already removed them |
| 02:41.55 | comradek | Any ideas on where it might be? |
| 02:42.21 | jetscreamer | how the hell do i tell if the ddrescue in debian sources is ddrescue or dd_rescue :( |
| 02:42.40 | benjamindees | krassy1809, well you seem to be learning quickly; linux is definitely worth the effort |
| 02:42.54 | jetscreamer | well doesn't matter |
| 02:43.00 | jetscreamer | i'll just find out the hard way |
| 02:43.23 | Rekiem | How can I get this solved? - make sure CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER are defined in your kernel configuration! |
| 02:43.31 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: i am goog in hardware |
| 02:43.39 | jetscreamer | Rekiem: did you compile it yourself? |
| 02:43.45 | SimonRaven | crschmidt: yes |
| 02:43.46 | Rekiem | Sip. |
| 02:43.49 | Rekiem | Yeah |
| 02:44.01 | jetscreamer | recompile, and compile em |
| 02:44.11 | jetscreamer | either as a module, or in |
| 02:44.14 | SimonRaven | jetscreamer: dd<tab> |
| 02:44.17 | Rekiem | I did it. |
| 02:44.17 | jetscreamer | you musta said nn |
| 02:44.21 | Rekiem | But keep doing that. |
| 02:44.30 | krassy1809 | benjamindees: how much is popular Linux in US ? |
| 02:44.35 | Rekiem | Let me try something... |
| 02:44.37 | jetscreamer | y;eah it's started as dd_rescue, but the package is named ddrescue |
| 02:44.41 | Rekiem | It just came to my head |
| 02:45.02 | crschmidt | SimonRaven: I already removed those (and 'touch'ed new ones, so it would log again) |
| 02:45.11 | crschmidt | SimonRaven: who still has ghost users |
| 02:45.21 | miki | anyone know wich tool i need to unpack "multiple archive) zip file under debian ? |
| 02:45.33 | Guerin | miki: unzip, weirdly |
| 02:45.34 | jetscreamer | miki: unzip? |
| 02:45.41 | miki | mmm |
| 02:45.46 | asg | miki: unzip and then unzip again? |
| 02:45.47 | jetscreamer | miki: use file-roller or some other front end |
| 02:45.56 | benjamindees | krassy1809, it is becoming more popular in businesses |
| 02:46.09 | benjamindees | krassy1809, but not as popular as in Europe I think |
| 02:46.11 | jetscreamer | front end to unzip |
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| 02:46.20 | SimonRaven | crschmidt: how about lastlog? |
| 02:47.00 | crschmidt | SimonRaven: remove, touch, disconnect, ssh back in -- still no change |
| 02:47.04 | SimonRaven | wtf does this keep re-building the perl shtuff even when it has been already .... |
| 02:47.12 | asg | krassy1809: I maintain 30+ Debian systems on a network of 100 servers. Granted, that was more my doing than anything else, but Linux/BSD systems are found in uncommon places here. |
| 02:47.32 | jetscreamer | dpkg, simonrvn is simon simon he's our man! if he can't fix it, no-budee can... |
| 02:47.32 | dpkg | ...but simonrvn is already something else... |
| 02:47.36 | jetscreamer | darn |
| 02:47.39 | SimonRaven | crschmidt: check the man page, i ithink i'm missing something |
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| 02:47.56 | asg | jetscreamer: dpkg, simonrvn is also ... |
| 02:47.58 | Seb | jetscreamer: is also |
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| 02:48.03 | SimonRaven | riight. if i can't fix it, someone else can ;) |
| 02:48.04 | Seb | asg: heh |
| 02:48.04 | jetscreamer | yes i know how but thanks |
| 02:48.08 | asg | Seb: :) |
| 02:48.27 | comradek | Better yet, is there a way to probe for my external drive and place an icon on the desktop? |
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| 02:48.35 | SimonRaven | Seb: could you /msg me your usual e-mail address ? |
| 02:48.36 | jetscreamer | it's probably too long already anyway |
| 02:48.39 | humpi | what dist should i use for apt etch sarge sid testing or unstable? |
| 02:48.39 | benjamindees | krassy1809, it seems the Linux/UNIX job market has improved markedly in the last year however |
| 02:48.42 | crschmidt | SimonRaven: ack! my delete didn't get the ones in /var/run/ |
| 02:48.43 | Seb | SimonRaven: sure thing |
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| 02:48.53 | crschmidt | SimonRaven: so, you were right to begin with. PEBKAC :( |
| 02:48.56 | jetscreamer | humpi: testing is etch, sid is unstable |
| 02:49.07 | jetscreamer | use etch for a dekstop and sarge for a server |
| 02:49.09 | SimonRaven | crschmidt: oh i see. ok |
| 02:49.11 | dvs | comradek: If you're using gnome, yes |
| 02:49.17 | comradek | I am using gnome |
| 02:49.21 | jetscreamer | dickstop... omg |
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| 02:49.34 | humpi | jetscreamer: what about a server that needs php5? :) |
| 02:49.36 | dvs | comradek: install hal, pmount, and gnome-volume-manager |
| 02:49.45 | huhlig | hmmm |
| 02:49.45 | asg | humpi: /msg dpkg php5 |
| 02:49.46 | jetscreamer | humpi: not my problem :) |
| 02:49.52 | jetscreamer | backports though |
| 02:50.03 | jetscreamer | probably in that /msg |
| 02:50.09 | Guerin | !need |
| 02:50.09 | humpi | thanks |
| 02:50.09 | dpkg | You don't NEED an application. You definitely don't NEED a game or site. You do not NEED a shell. You do not NEED to get a ban lifted. You NEED food. So go and buy your food, and if you feel that you absolutely NEED a program, we suggest that you go and buy that too while you're out. you do need beer, though. |
| 02:50.25 | benjamindees | krassy1809, I've got to find some food, good luck with your card... |
| 02:50.28 | Newck | anyone compile Darwin Streaming Server on debian? |
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| 02:50.35 | Guerin | Newck: no. |
| 02:50.47 | humpi | I need php5 to get money to get food that I NEED |
| 02:50.58 | MooglyGuy | Then RTFM, or something. |
| 02:51.05 | Guerin | humpi: no, you don't. |
| 02:51.13 | jetscreamer | hey where the hell is that asshole anyone... i haven't seen him in a while |
| 02:51.17 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:actualy this machine i need to make load balancing between 2 ISP`s |
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| 02:51.26 | benjamindees | and, for the record, that was synchronicity, not subliminal influence... |
| 02:51.32 | MooglyGuy | Take out a bank loan, buy some leather chaps, and peddle your ass on the streetcorner in order to get money to get food that you NEED, if that's the case. |
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| 02:52.10 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:ok thanx again |
| 02:52.28 | krassy1809 | benjamindees:have nice day |
| 02:53.06 | jetscreamer | load balancing between 2 isp's... sounds cool |
| 02:53.17 | odla | ha ha don sherry |
| 02:53.20 | asg | jetscreamer: a huge pain in the ass |
| 02:53.31 | dvs | Don Cherry for PM! |
| 02:53.42 | odla | is it cherry? |
| 02:53.57 | dvs | odla: The hockey guy, yeah |
| 02:54.10 | odla | dvs: i always thought it was sherry |
| 02:54.24 | dvs | odla: Don't let him hear you say that! ;-) |
| 02:54.34 | odla | dvs: i moved to edmonton about 6 months |
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| 02:55.35 | odla | !don cherry |
| 02:55.44 | jetscreamer | ah shit all my zig are belong to somebody else |
| 02:56.00 | comradek | dvs, it looks like I have hal, pmount, and the volume manager installed already |
| 02:56.01 | Rekiem | Does someone knows how to make a Marvell Yukon 88E8039 Fast Ethernet card work on Debian? |
| 02:56.15 | Guerin | Rekiem: google knows |
| 02:56.18 | AngelusMori | hi |
| 02:56.21 | odla | Rekiem: have you tried to google yet? |
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| 02:56.27 | Rekiem | Guerin I did |
| 02:56.29 | jetscreamer | Rekiem: http://scyld.com/network.html |
| 02:56.31 | odla | Guerin: what about yahoo? |
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| 02:56.48 | jetscreamer | dpkg, scyld is http://scyld.com/network.html |
| 02:56.48 | dpkg | ...but scyld is already something else... |
| 02:56.52 | jetscreamer | !scyld |
| 02:56.52 | dpkg | somebody said scyld was see http://scyld.com/network.html for current NIC drivers for VIA Rhine, Tulip, NE2000, RealTek rtl8139, 3Com Vortex, etc, etc... If you have problems getting your NIC to work under Linux this would probably be one of the first places to check out (the latest versions of these drivers are often _not_ found in the latest Linux kernels)!, for build/usage instructions also see "building scyld". see "using scyld". |
| 02:56.53 | Rekiem | But it has been a hell because I already compile and re compile the kernel in the way google showed me. And nothing happens... |
| 02:56.57 | Guerin | odla: yahoo sell search data to the US govt for free visits to LV stip clubs. |
| 02:57.01 | Guerin | Don't trust 'em. |
| 02:57.07 | jetscreamer | !factinfo scyld |
| 02:57.09 | Guerin | strip clubs, even. |
| 02:57.09 | dpkg | scyld -- created by jetscreamer <~jetscream@adsl-64-219-216-41.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net> at Sun Dec 26 03:04:24 2004 (391 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by jlj at Tue Jul 5 12:14:40 2005. |
| 02:57.13 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 02:57.17 | jetscreamer | i forgot |
| 02:57.22 | odla | Guerin: really? |
| 02:57.27 | shingouz | !beer jetscreamer |
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| 02:57.46 | shingouz | you need at least one beer and perhaps some caffeine too, jetscreamer ;) |
| 02:57.54 | Guerin | odla: goddamnright. Google gets it free, so they don't have to sell the search data to the US govt. |
| 02:58.05 | odla | ha ha |
| 02:58.08 | jetscreamer | i drink coffee like 24/7 practically |
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| 02:58.48 | odla | i must have had about 10 cups of coffee yesterday |
| 02:59.08 | odla | i was so fucking wired |
| 02:59.13 | doogster | About 15 minutes ago, I mentioned having trouble compiling opengl programs under Unstable. I just tried compiling ppracer and it failed at the ./configure stage, saying that it couldn't find a mesagl library, opengl library, or opengl32 library. |
| 02:59.19 | doogster | hello |
| 02:59.28 | odla | doogster: you're running unstable? |
| 02:59.29 | jetscreamer | heh. i've probably had 10 cups in the past 4 hours, maybe 6 |
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| 02:59.37 | odla | jetscreamer: really? |
| 02:59.39 | jdhutchin1 | doogster, you ahve to install the -dev packages |
| 02:59.41 | doogster | hi |
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| 02:59.55 | odla | jetscreamer: i have a new found respect for you |
| 02:59.58 | doogster | Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude |
| 03:00.05 | SimonRaven | @kill lack of --disable-rpath in ./configure |
| 03:00.21 | jetscreamer | yeah. my wife got me hooked on it. i used to drink coke all day |
| 03:00.30 | Guerin | tea > * |
| 03:00.35 | odla | coffee's better than coke at least |
| 03:00.45 | odla | but tea is healther |
| 03:00.45 | jetscreamer | i'm either tea all day or coffee all day now |
| 03:00.46 | asg | Guerin: rum with a little tea > tea |
| 03:00.56 | jetscreamer | no sugar in either, nor cream |
| 03:01.05 | odla | jetscreamer: sounds like me |
| 03:01.07 | Guerin | heh |
| 03:01.10 | comradek | Ok, so I have hal, pmount, and the volume manager installed already. Should Gnome auto detect the USB drive and place it on my desktop, or what? |
| 03:01.12 | Guerin | rum tum tea |
| 03:01.23 | odla | man canadians go crazy for tim horton's coffee |
| 03:01.32 | Kluster_v2 | mmmmmm tim horton's |
| 03:01.37 | odla | ha ha |
| 03:01.39 | asg | odla: before or after he drinks it? |
| 03:01.40 | Guerin | wtf |
| 03:01.48 | AngelusMori | i've an router 192.168.178.1 as gateway to the internet and an box 192.168.178.253. the box has an route add -net 0.0.0.0 netmask 0.0.0.0 gw 192.168.178.1 eth0 rule, but it can't reach the world outside... any ideas? |
| 03:01.53 | doogster | I have xlibmesa-dev and libglu1-xorg-dev installed (under unstable). Are these not the right -dev packages for compiling opengl programs? |
| 03:02.01 | Guerin | north americans are so brand-crazy |
| 03:02.05 | jetscreamer | zzzz dd_rescue: (info): ipos: 76460.0k, opos: 76460.0k, xferd: 76460.0k |
| 03:02.06 | Guerin | it scares me |
| 03:02.09 | odla | asg: i think they put crystal meth or something in it..cause canadians are always itching for it |
| 03:02.11 | comradek | shouldn't you subnet mask be 255.255.255.255? |
| 03:02.13 | SimonRaven | no kidding |
| 03:02.15 | comradek | your* |
| 03:02.19 | asg | hah |
| 03:02.23 | SimonRaven | Guerin: i find it rather brainwashed |
| 03:02.32 | jetscreamer | i use 255.255.255.0 here |
| 03:02.36 | asg | Guerin: nah, we buy generics 'cause they're cheaper |
| 03:02.46 | Guerin | SimonRaven: it's not *quite* as bad as east asia, but ... man. |
| 03:02.56 | antgel_ | odd. am in a debian chroot. pings to outside world are slow and showing oddities etc 02:55:14.449414 IP 192.168.1.69 > 192.168.1.1: ICMP 192.168.1.69 udp port 32787 unreachable, length 49 |
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| 03:03.07 | odla | when ever i go by the tim hortons store on campus there's about a line of 50 people waiting in line |
| 03:03.16 | asg | Guerin: who wants Corn Flakes when you can have Foo Crinkles? |
| 03:03.25 | antgel_ | any advice appreciated. works fine outside chroot |
| 03:03.27 | odla | asg: mmm foo crinkles |
| 03:03.31 | SimonRaven | foo crinkles++ |
| 03:03.33 | Guerin | asg: heh. I'd buy foo crinkles just for the name. |
| 03:03.34 | jetscreamer | sounds like starbucks here, or practically any nice coffee shop |
| 03:04.12 | SimonRaven | there's a nice fair trade place near a bike co-op i volunteer at; really good coffee |
| 03:04.18 | Kluster_v2 | tim horton has great food too, I don't even drink cofee and I love 'em |
| 03:04.19 | AngelusMori | neither 255.255.255.0 nor 255.255.255.255 works, ping 216.239.39.104 (google) says network is unreachable |
| 03:04.20 | asg | Guerin: in this part of the world, there are grocery shops named 'Piggly Wiggly'. I've been unable to obtain the services of a hooker though. |
| 03:04.27 | SimonRaven | goddamdn that sounded granola... |
| 03:04.28 | Guerin | asg: hah |
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| 03:04.38 | darkcmd | how do I setup ide-scsi for /dev/hdd? |
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| 03:04.45 | ratschnowski | hello, how can i deinstall a package that was installed via cvs ? |
| 03:04.46 | odla | asg: are you in england? |
| 03:05.01 | Guerin | ratschnowski: depends how you installed it |
| 03:05.05 | asg | odla: I'm an ex-pat living in the Southeastern US. |
| 03:05.21 | antgel_ | asg knows the score :) |
| 03:05.29 | asg | antgel_: hiya, how are things? |
| 03:05.32 | odla | asg: when in the USA do you get piggly wiggly...alabama? |
| 03:05.36 | odla | arkansas? |
| 03:05.52 | asg | odla: Georgia, South Carolina, Northern Florida |
| 03:06.04 | antgel_ | asg, not bad, you? happy new year |
| 03:06.05 | darkcmd | anyone know? |
| 03:06.14 | asg | antgel_: very. I hope you did as well. |
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| 03:06.28 | Guerin | darkcmd: why are you still using 2.4? |
| 03:06.39 | Golfgeo | I just used modconf to add a parameter to a kernel module, I then quoted that module out in /etc/modules so that hotplug would have to reload it. On boot the module used the parameter I passed to it wile loading it via modconf, if I used insmod with the parameter it wouldn't have been used. My question is: Where is the parameter stored??? |
| 03:06.40 | comradek | hmm |
| 03:06.41 | antgel_ | asg, and still am. :) |
| 03:06.45 | asg | antgel_: hehe |
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| 03:07.05 | darkcmd | Guerin, because I want to |
| 03:07.09 | darkcmd | do you have any clue |
| 03:07.21 | asg | darkcmd: he does but /msg dpkg ide-scsi might help |
| 03:07.24 | SimonRaven | do you? |
| 03:07.30 | Guerin | darkcmd: boot with hdd=ide-scsi |
| 03:07.32 | antgel_ | although not all perfect. i speak from xchat (puke) on knoppix (puke again) |
| 03:07.39 | ratschnowski | Guerin, i did that http://wiki.horde.org/FC4InstallationNotes?referrer=HowTo |
| 03:07.50 | ratschnowski | on debian sarge, its stupid, i know |
| 03:07.51 | darkcmd | Guerin, where do I put that in my grub conf |
| 03:07.55 | asg | antgel_: better than Comic Chat on Windows 95 |
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| 03:08.01 | ratschnowski | cvs -d .... checkout |
| 03:08.03 | Guerin | ratschnowski: i'm not going to read it all. Just tell me what you did. Make; make install? |
| 03:08.03 | darkcmd | I mean for grub |
| 03:08.10 | antgel_ | asg, i'm running that on wine ;) |
| 03:08.14 | Guerin | darkcmd: on your kernel line |
| 03:08.26 | i2501 | my laptop heats up...there is only one processer and it works fine just like windows...actually that part is not that hot...but the middle of my laptop is too hot...it burns a little...screensaver was running...why it is like that? |
| 03:08.27 | asg | antgel_: are you also running Microsoft Bob? |
| 03:08.27 | ratschnowski | Guerin, cvs -d :pserver:cvsread@anoncvs.horde.org:/repository checkout horde |
| 03:08.38 | odla | mirc |
| 03:08.39 | i2501 | one processor fan* |
| 03:08.42 | ratschnowski | cvs -d :pserver:cvsread@anoncvs.horde.org:/repository checkout framework imp kronolith mnemo nag passwd turba ingo |
| 03:08.55 | antgel_ | asg, no but it sounds like fun |
| 03:09.00 | Guerin | ratschnowski: oh, horde is just php. Just delete it, should work. |
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| 03:09.19 | antgel_ | horde sucks the largest balls |
| 03:09.20 | darkcmd | Guerin, thanks |
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| 03:09.23 | Guerin | hord is a bloated madss of horribility |
| 03:09.25 | ratschnowski | thx |
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| 03:09.30 | ratschnowski | yes |
| 03:09.34 | odla | wow that's horrible singing |
| 03:09.37 | antgel_ | !thx |
| 03:09.37 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas, named after THX1138, Lucas' first movie. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. |
| 03:09.37 | asg | antgel_: MS's first and only attempt at a social interface. Rather interesting and funny as hell. Was pimped on national TV by the blonde girl in Cheers. |
| 03:09.38 | ratschnowski | it seems so |
| 03:09.38 | Guerin | antgel_: glad we feel likewise |
| 03:09.58 | antgel_ | that's my first bot-trigger of 2006 |
| 03:10.10 | antgel_ | asg, i'll look it up :) |
| 03:10.18 | nvz | damn I closed my phone while a msg was sending I am not sure if it sent :P |
| 03:10.23 | asg | antgel_: the angry green parrot helper was my favorite. |
| 03:10.35 | asg | nvz: there should be a call log to tell you that |
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| 03:11.34 | comradek | Maybe rebooting will help Linux detect my external drive? =/ |
| 03:11.39 | nvz | asg: nope afaik doesnt log outgoing msg's only keeps track of incomming, drafts, and outbox that havent been sent yet |
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| 03:11.53 | nvz | asg: its not in the outbox, or drafts, so I guess it sent *shrug* |
| 03:11.58 | azeem | comradek: rebooting is seldom a solution |
| 03:12.03 | azeem | on GNU/Linux, at least |
| 03:12.04 | asg | nvz: oh, hmmmm. If it was important, send another message. |
| 03:12.08 | comradek | hmm |
| 03:12.11 | antgel_ | Guerin, don't go there. we installed it for a customer merely for sork-vacation. which doesn't work. we knocked up a php script to set the fucking thing. to this day it's affectionately known as "pork sword" in the office |
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| 03:12.24 | Guerin | heh |
| 03:12.26 | asg | antgel_: hah |
| 03:12.31 | geoff_ | does anyone know what i need to do to install debian on a 3ware 9500 sata raid array? the sarge dvd i have doesn't detect it. |
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| 03:12.39 | Guerin | antgel_: my cow-admin <3's it |
| 03:12.51 | Guerin | reminds me, I have to get perlmail working again |
| 03:12.53 | nvz | asg: yeah well it was important, I was trying to hose down a buddy of mine, I think he got a little sand in his vagina tonight.. |
| 03:12.58 | Guerin | webmail in one (1) small cgi script |
| 03:13.18 | antgel_ | Guerin, tell her to upgrade her pork sword! |
| 03:13.28 | Guerin | hah |
| 03:13.28 | asg | nvz: o/~ Hermaphrodite!!! o/~ - Stephen Lynch |
| 03:13.47 | nvz | I am making reference to South Park |
| 03:13.54 | nvz | with the "sand in the vagina" |
| 03:13.57 | comradek | Well, I have hal, gnome-volume-manager, and pmount. I did the modprobe on usb-devices and the other thing. Still nothing. Could it be that my external drive takes up two USB slots? |
| 03:14.14 | comradek | I mean, could that be the reason its not detecting? |
| 03:14.15 | geoff_ | is there some sort of floppy or module or something that would allow it to work? |
| 03:14.20 | antgel_ | odd. am in a debian chroot. pings to outside world are slow and showing oddities etc 02:55:14.449414 IP 192.168.1.69 > 192.168.1.1: ICMP 192.168.1.69 udp port 32787 unreachable, length 49 |
| 03:14.20 | asg | nvz: I know, I took it to the darker realms of Comedy Central ;) |
| 03:14.45 | comradek | It came with a CD, but its only applicable to windows and mac afaik |
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| 03:15.09 | nvz | he said he was broke and going bowling last I heard.. I wondered htf he was going bowling when he's broke.. and now its quarter after 10. bowling alleys are probably closed.. so I am trying to figure out what the real story is |
| 03:15.11 | Guerin | comradek: lsusb |
| 03:15.18 | antgel_ | is it still not as much fun here? i know i'm logged in but i haven't actually read the channel since before xmas |
| 03:15.31 | comradek | is that a command or an application? |
| 03:15.31 | asg | antgel_: it's better but not the way it was |
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| 03:15.55 | rene- | dudes i did a non graphical setup with sarge, then i decided i wanted gnome and xfree86, i am a little confused on what to do to revert it to a non graphical default login, on red hat based installations i would change the run level, i am in run level 2 in debian and it is defaulting to graphical login, how can i switch it to text mode only? i know i need to use something like chkconfig, but i dont know what services i should take out of my current run level, |
| 03:15.57 | nvz | I always have money, and credit.. so broke people dont shy away from me without a good fucking reason |
| 03:15.59 | asg | antgel_: I'm back on a temporary basis, though greycat and others haven't returned. |
| 03:16.20 | antgel_ | asg, i've been knuckling down at work anyway. we're dead busy. keeps me off the streets :D |
| 03:16.22 | asg | rene-: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 03:16.27 | eegore | Well the good news is that a version of K3B should be ready for etch in a few days |
| 03:16.37 | comradek | Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04cf:8818 Myson Century, Inc. Fast 3.5" External Storage. Still haven't been able to find it though. (sorry, i'm a newbie at linux) |
| 03:16.38 | nvz | whoo hoo, speaking of money, I just found $15 I didnt know I had.. I am rich! |
| 03:16.50 | antgel_ | nvz, buy weed! |
| 03:16.53 | asg | antgel_: me too, I've inherited another manger's position. This is the most i've been on since Dec 1. |
| 03:17.10 | asg | *manager |
| 03:17.20 | antgel_ | asg, you are like a parallel me, just not as good looking ;) |
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| 03:17.36 | asg | antgel_: yeah, I'm an ugly mo fo |
| 03:17.50 | nvz | antgel_: I'm working on it. I got to figure out how I am getting around first. now that I found the extra $15 I can afford a bus.. but I rather that rich kid, who says he's broke and bowling drive me around |
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| 03:18.20 | antgel_ | nvz, nick his wallet. buy a car |
| 03:18.22 | OMwez | anyone here in minnesota? |
| 03:18.37 | antgel_ | all of us |
| 03:18.42 | jdhutchin1 | rene-, in debian, runlevels don't have the same meaning as they do in redhat |
| 03:18.43 | eegore | If I want to connect through work, I have to use Tor to get through the firewall, is there a way I can get on the tor authorized list so I can get in here from work |
| 03:18.47 | nvz | antgel_: yeah I think his dad will notice $58,000 charge on his credit card |
| 03:18.52 | jdhutchin1 | rene-, if you don't want to use gdm, then remove it |
| 03:18.53 | comradek | So, my device should be found in /dev/sda or /dev/sdb? because I certainly don't see it :( |
| 03:19.09 | odla | i use to live in minnesota |
| 03:19.24 | antgel_ | nvz, not if he's *that* rich ;) |
| 03:19.26 | rene- | asg: if i set the file /etc/X11/default-display-manager to false i dont get a display manager at startup and X11 is not started, right? |
| 03:19.35 | javac | what's happening with the servers of Debian? |
| 03:19.37 | asg | rene-: yes |
| 03:19.41 | asg | javac: /topic |
| 03:19.46 | nvz | antgel_: he's rich, he's not stupid. |
| 03:19.57 | nvz | antgel_: if I buy a car, especially on a rich man's budget.. I am getting a Mercedes, Jaguar, Volvo, Audi, VW..something |
| 03:19.59 | asg | rene-: you can also just apt-get remove xdm (or kdm, gdm, wdm, etc.) |
| 03:20.10 | OMwez | not a jag nor an audi |
| 03:20.11 | miki | Question: im trying to install USB adsl modem(speedtouch 330), im using CD provided by ISP... install script stops at test phase saying smth like this: "USBUsage: lspci [<switches>]" then it shows all command parameters and says smth like "USB support not installed [test FAILED]". anything i can do with it? |
| 03:20.11 | rene- | thanks jd |
| 03:20.11 | nvz | hell might as well get a Rolls or a Bently if he's buying |
| 03:20.30 | asg | nvz: hell, get a hyundai and spend the rest on someone to drive you around. |
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| 03:20.49 | antgel_ | nvz, i have a jag but it's old. am trying to sell it. pointless in london. |
| 03:20.51 | nvz | asg: fuck that.. I'd rather pimp the bently around myself. |
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| 03:21.10 | dondelelcaro | some cars are for sitting in the back of, some are for driving. |
| 03:21.14 | rene- | thanks asg |
| 03:21.25 | asg | nvz: anybody that will do you for the car you drive is probably not the best choice. |
| 03:21.29 | dondelelcaro | the cars that are for driving don't generally have backseats that anyone with legs can actually sit in |
| 03:21.48 | antgel_ | dondelelcaro, sage advice. happy new year |
| 03:22.19 | comradek | What kernel is in the latest public Debian? |
| 03:22.22 | antgel_ | i heard that in .us you all get a 10 litre v8 when you're 14 years old |
| 03:22.29 | asg | comradek: 2.6.8 or 2.4.27 |
| 03:22.39 | jdhutchin1 | antgel_, depends how much money your parents have |
| 03:22.45 | javac | can somebody help me? kurumin@Novinho:/usr/lib/gtk$ sudo apt-get install synaptic |
| 03:22.45 | comradek | ah |
| 03:22.45 | javac | Lendo Lista de Pacotes... Pronto |
| 03:22.45 | javac | Construindo Árvore de Dependęncias... Pronto |
| 03:22.45 | javac | Os pacotes extra a seguir serăo instalados: |
| 03:22.46 | javac | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:22.46 | asg | antgel_: or a 1984 ford escort |
| 03:23.02 | antgel_ | jdhutchin1, heh |
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| 03:23.37 | antgel_ | asg, you can take the brit out of britain etc |
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| 03:24.00 | ClayG | is there a package similar to openssh in the repos? |
| 03:24.07 | asg | antgel_: you can, oooh arrrr ;) |
| 03:24.10 | Guerin | ClayG: like openssh, maybe? |
| 03:24.19 | ClayG | yeah, maybe I dont have a good sources.list |
| 03:24.19 | asg | ClayG: what's wrong with openssh? |
| 03:24.23 | ClayG | nothing is wrong |
| 03:24.25 | antgel_ | asg, i can just see that escort in a pale turquoise |
| 03:24.31 | asg | ClayG: try just 'ssh' |
| 03:24.36 | ClayG | I like openssh, i just dont see it in my available package |
| 03:24.42 | ClayG | i thought ssh was only the client |
| 03:24.47 | ClayG | but ill give'er a wack |
| 03:24.48 | britt | I use cyrus and exim4 as my MTAs, the server is on a linode...can anybody tell me why SMTP wont work for outside clients? Web clients are fine, but not other computer IMAP clients... |
| 03:24.49 | asg | ClayG: no, not in stable |
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| 03:25.05 | asg | antgel_: I threw the timing belt on that one while doing 70. |
| 03:25.12 | Guerin | britt: because you haven't configured it properly. |
| 03:25.17 | antgel_ | britt, smtp auth? |
| 03:25.56 | humpi | how do i make a shortcut? |
| 03:26.01 | asg | humpi: man ln |
| 03:26.04 | humpi | thanks |
| 03:26.06 | antgel_ | asg, best thing really |
| 03:26.36 | antgel_ | asg, no that's for a symbolic link. :) |
| 03:26.47 | asg | antgel_: yes, it was replaced by a 1988 white escort which broke my sternum on a rather cute blonde's driver side door. |
| 03:27.03 | antgel_ | asg, did you fuck her? |
| 03:27.07 | AngelusMori | damn! i get an 404 on http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl |
| 03:27.25 | dondelelcaro | AngelusMori: yes, pdo is down again |
| 03:27.26 | antgel_ | AngelusMori, quelle surprise! |
| 03:27.28 | asg | antgel_: yes, I assumed it was a Windows-inspired question. |
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| 03:28.01 | britt | antgel_: well, let me try that. I dont think it works either, but i'll try |
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| 03:28.11 | dondelelcaro | ClayG: ssh is both; openssh-client is only the client. |
| 03:28.26 | nekostar | ssh is really nice |
| 03:28.31 | antgel_ | britt, do you know anything about smtp? |
| 03:28.55 | antgel_ | nice is really nice |
| 03:29.02 | nekostar | yeah |
| 03:29.03 | nekostar | heh |
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| 03:29.09 | britt | antgel_: yes. i believe i do. I think so. |
| 03:29.11 | asg | ssh is the killer app (tm) |
| 03:29.19 | unicornrose | hi |
| 03:29.33 | britt | antgel_: why? |
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| 03:30.19 | BucHOME | i just read the faq on udev and i'm trying to figure out how to use udev so when a usb memory stick is inserted into computer it is mounted automatically |
| 03:30.44 | antgel_ | britt, because then you would know if you needed or not. it's not something to "just try" |
| 03:30.45 | BucHOME | dvs suggested i use udev for this anyone else have other thoughts? |
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| 03:31.10 | BucHOME | the faq: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ advises against using udev for this purpose |
| 03:31.13 | antgel_ | !autofs |
| 03:31.14 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, autofs is a kernel-based automounter for Linux, or silly to use 5 minutes as a default timeout for unmounting, or see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127 |
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| 03:31.47 | asg | --timeout=2 is your friend |
| 03:31.50 | britt | antgel_: IMAP is used to recieve mail, but not the same way as POP. SMTP is used to send mail, right? |
| 03:32.00 | unicornrose | Hello |
| 03:32.12 | asg | !tell unicornrose about ask |
| 03:32.43 | antgel_ | britt, yes. but are you sure you should be trying to admin a mail server? |
| 03:32.44 | unicornrose | what is ask |
| 03:33.09 | asg | unicornrose: our bot told you something, as I instructed it to do. |
| 03:34.33 | unicornrose | May I ask questions? I am looking for help. |
| 03:34.40 | asg | unicornrose: yes, ask away |
| 03:34.45 | SerajewelKS | unicornrose: no, you can't ask questions on a support channel |
| 03:34.47 | kspath | britt: you will make some spammers a great open relay I am sure. |
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| 03:35.46 | unicornrose | You are picking on me Sera. LOL Sorry got a little confused for a moment. |
| 03:35.58 | SerajewelKS | unicornrose: yes, i was being sarcastic ;) |
| 03:36.15 | kspath | britt: have you tried any sources of info like webopedia yet or yahoo/google searches |
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| 03:36.52 | antgel_ | or god forbid the rfcs or server docs |
| 03:37.10 | kspath | antgel_: are you sure he is up for that yet? |
| 03:37.44 | antgel_ | kspath, if he wants to run a server on the internet, it would be nice |
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| 03:38.04 | unicornrose | Anyway i am installing Debian on my computer and its on the install phase right now..... Its latest thing its doing is Setting up scrollerkeeper.... Well its says Rebuilding the database. This may take sometime..... My question is how long is it supposed to take? Or an approximate would do. |
| 03:38.22 | SerajewelKS | unicornrose: is the hard drive light flashing? |
| 03:38.33 | SimonRaven | a long time if it's the first time |
| 03:38.40 | unicornrose | Sera: No |
| 03:38.44 | SimonRaven | even on a fast drive |
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| 03:38.54 | britt | antgel_: what a group tonight....i have everything setup, cyrus is configured...using squirrelmail i can send/recieve no problem. Using an outside computer I cant send mail...why? |
| 03:39.00 | SerajewelKS | unicornrose: how long has it not been flashing? |
| 03:39.13 | SerajewelKS | britt: firewall or authentication issues |
| 03:39.19 | SerajewelKS | britt: define "can't send mail" |
| 03:39.22 | SimonRaven | it's the cpu too ... |
| 03:39.28 | unicornrose | Simon: What is a long time? Sera: almost an hour. |
| 03:39.36 | SimonRaven | run top, you see scrollkeeper-update running at ~100% |
| 03:39.38 | SerajewelKS | SimonRaven: well i would expect at least *some* drive activity |
| 03:39.40 | asg | britt: telnet to the box, speak SMTP at it. It will tell you what the problem is |
| 03:39.41 | kspath | antgel: I agree completely. No one should run a mail server(s) without knowledge. |
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| 03:39.46 | asg | britt: /msg dpkg mail tutorial |
| 03:39.49 | SimonRaven | yes, i've seen it take that long |
| 03:40.06 | magustrench | hi all, i'm looking for a floppy-based linux distro that can access a usb flash drive... |
| 03:40.15 | britt | SerajewelKS: cant contact SMTP server when using lets say my powerbook. But with squirrelmail everything is fine. |
| 03:40.17 | SimonRaven | one of the many reasons i hate that thing ;) |
| 03:40.31 | SerajewelKS | britt: then port 25 is closed. check any firewalls along the route. |
| 03:40.39 | antgel_ | britt, because you haven't read the docs pointed out to you and even if you had your question has no specific detail about the problem area^^^ |
| 03:41.02 | antgel_ | SerajewelKS, um, not necessarily |
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| 03:41.37 | unicornrose | ? |
| 03:41.38 | SerajewelKS | antgel_: what else does "can't contact SMTP server" mean? |
| 03:41.39 | humpi | how do i end a process? |
| 03:41.40 | antgel_ | SerajewelKS, does can't contact mean can't connect to the port or failing acl? |
| 03:41.59 | ke6isf | magustrench: floppy based? What is the end result you are attempting to find? |
| 03:42.00 | asg | humpi: it depends on your definition of 'end'. man kill |
| 03:42.10 | SerajewelKS | antgel_: if it was failing ACL, wouldn't it just be an SMTP error? |
| 03:42.12 | antgel_ | SerajewelKS, i think the point is can't contact server is ambiguous |
| 03:42.23 | humpi | asg, ok, how do i view a list of processes? |
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| 03:42.31 | asg | humpi: ps aux |
| 03:42.32 | britt | hold up. |
| 03:42.35 | humpi | thanks asg |
| 03:42.36 | britt | lemme check again |
| 03:42.36 | antgel_ | SerajewelKS, he didn't give any specifics about the error |
| 03:42.37 | SerajewelKS | antgel_: if can't contact server is coming from the client, then it's not. "contact" means connect in all cases i've seen. |
| 03:42.42 | britt | i think its failing AUTH |
| 03:42.51 | magustrench | ke6isf: being able to boot from floppies so i can access data on a usb drive on a laptop with no operating system |
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| 03:43.02 | SerajewelKS | britt: then it would have said "SMTP authentication failed." run a sniffer on the server and see what's happening. |
| 03:43.03 | asg | britt: the server logs will (or can be configure to) tell you if that's the case. |
| 03:43.05 | antgel_ | SerajewelKS, i rest my case |
| 03:43.08 | remission | I tried insalling Sarge using stable and noticed that it still uses xfree instead of xorg, is that true of testing,unstable, etc? |
| 03:43.11 | AngelusMori | my box is now on the net! the dhclient was missing... |
| 03:43.23 | ke6isf | magustrench: So bootstrap from a floppy to a USB fob. Correct? |
| 03:43.25 | antgel_ | remission, no |
| 03:43.25 | asg | remission: sarge shipped with xfree86 |
| 03:43.31 | SerajewelKS | remission: what does 'dpkg -l xserver-xorg | tail -1' say |
| 03:43.37 | asg | remission: if you want xorg on sarge, /msg dpkg sarge xorg |
| 03:43.43 | unicornrose | So um hmm how long is too long for the database to be rebuilding itself? |
| 03:43.48 | SerajewelKS | asg: aha, got confused again |
| 03:43.54 | magustrench | ke6isf: um yeah i just need to copy files to the hard drive |
| 03:44.00 | remission | So theres no way to netinstall and have it install xorg instead? |
| 03:44.10 | SerajewelKS | remission: sure, just install etch |
| 03:44.16 | antgel_ | remission, what asg said |
| 03:44.17 | asg | remission: sorry, /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
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| 03:44.43 | ke6isf | magustrench: How old is this laptop? |
| 03:45.09 | asg | kspath: it apparently hasn't overcome yet |
| 03:45.16 | unicornrose | :thinks about joining kspath |
| 03:45.17 | magustrench | ke6isf: a few years old. the cdrom drive was taken out |
| 03:45.20 | unicornrose | duh |
| 03:45.21 | unicornrose | lol |
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| 03:45.53 | asg | unicornrose: does 'alt+f2' take you to another console? |
| 03:45.59 | BucHOME | antgel_ i followed that tut you posted and when i stick my drive in nothing happens |
| 03:46.15 | SerajewelKS | BucHOME: for autofs? |
| 03:46.18 | ke6isf | magustrench: What OS is on the laptop? |
| 03:46.22 | BucHOME | SerajewelKS yea |
| 03:46.24 | unicornrose | asg: on my computer or on here? |
| 03:46.46 | SerajewelKS | BucHOME: it does not mount the drive when you plug it in, it mounts it when you go to the automount point |
| 03:46.46 | asg | unicornrose: on whatever appears to be hung rebuilding scrollkeeper's database. |
| 03:46.52 | SerajewelKS | BucHOME: and unmounts it when the drive is not in use for a certain number of seconds |
| 03:47.07 | unicornrose | brb |
| 03:47.18 | magustrench | ke6isf: do you know of any linux distros that are floppy based and have a decent set of kernel modules, including mass storage usb? cause that's really what i'm asking |
| 03:47.41 | BucHOME | SerajewelKS well the led on my drive never comes on |
| 03:47.44 | ke6isf | magustrench: No. That's why I'm trying to find an alternate solution. |
| 03:47.58 | magustrench | ke6isf: well, in this case there really is none |
| 03:47.58 | SerajewelKS | BucHOME: it won't until you try to 'cd' to the automount point |
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| 03:48.10 | SerajewelKS | britt: that's the attitude! |
| 03:48.21 | asg | britt: you should, especially if you have an open smtp port. |
| 03:48.23 | ke6isf | magustrench: Besides, asking for advice on other distros in here is pointless - you'll only get advice on Debian in here. |
| 03:48.48 | magustrench | ke6isf: heh. speak for yourself |
| 03:48.59 | BucHOME | SerajewelKS i get: Jan 21 21:48:20 localhost scsi.agent[5114]: sd_mod: can't be loaded (for disk) |
| 03:49.01 | britt | asg: the mac is retarded.... whats the "proper" syntax for pinging a specific port |
| 03:49.02 | BucHOME | in syslog |
| 03:49.11 | asg | britt: telnet <machine> port |
| 03:49.23 | unicornrose | asg: Nothing happened. Its not on a console either. I am on my initial installing thing. |
| 03:49.26 | asg | britt: if you need to ping a 'udp' port, use netcat (also works for tcp too) |
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| 03:49.30 | SerajewelKS | BucHOME: then autofs isn't your problem |
| 03:49.42 | asg | unicornrose: do any keyboard commands that should do anything at all? |
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| 03:49.50 | asg | unicornrose: otherwise, the system might be hung. |
| 03:50.03 | britt | asg: its on. i have SMTP running. so this is used for sending mail? |
| 03:50.32 | asg | britt: yes, SMTP is used to transfer mail between two machines (or more) |
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| 03:50.45 | asg | britt: telnet <machine> 25 |
| 03:50.51 | asg | britt: HELO me.foo |
| 03:50.52 | antgel_ | ah, my chroot was mounted ro. what a gimp! |
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| 03:50.58 | britt | asg: so I do need it for normal mail sending procedures. I did it already |
| 03:50.59 | asg | britt: ... (and so on) |
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| 03:51.20 | unicornrose | asg: forgive my ignorance.... what other keyboard commands should I try and if they don't work ....What do you suggest I do? |
| 03:51.23 | Gnea | blah! i HATE it when hardware doesn't have any instructions |
| 03:51.27 | antgel_ | asg, i think i'm hallucinating. you were talking smtp! |
| 03:51.32 | BucHOME | SerajewelKS how do i fix that? |
| 03:51.33 | asg | britt: no, you only need it if that machine needs to receive mail via smtp. If you are using IMAP/POP to get your mail from some other machine, it doesn't need to listen on anything but localhost |
| 03:51.38 | asg | antgel_: I was |
| 03:51.48 | SerajewelKS | BucHOME: i'm not sure.. i can handle autofs but kernel modules aren't really my thing |
| 03:51.55 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i hate it when it does come with a manual |
| 03:52.06 | asg | unicornrose: well, does 'SHIFT+PGUP' scroll the screen display upwards? |
| 03:52.06 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: if you need a manual to install a hard drive, you shouldn't be installing hard drives |
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| 03:52.18 | unicornrose | brb |
| 03:52.19 | Gnea | has anyone ever snagged one of those 'xtradrive' media card / usb thingies that has a little case that needs to open? |
| 03:52.26 | BucHOME | SerajewelKS i just noticed the usb drive led does not come on when i insert it in windows box either and i can write to it fine |
| 03:52.34 | fusionfox | can anyone tell me a console web browser with java support? |
| 03:52.36 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: this is for a portable card reader |
| 03:52.38 | BucHOME | SerajewelKS the usb drive is /dev/sdb |
| 03:52.39 | britt | SerajewelKS: except for those damn Maxstor drives...and thier stupid jumper configs |
| 03:52.47 | asg | unicornrose: if you hit 'ALT+Left Arrow Key' does it print '[D' on the screen? |
| 03:52.55 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: right, what do you need a manual for? plug it in, stick a card in... |
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| 03:53.01 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: usually i don't have a problem with hardware. this thing's got a tab on the end that's preventing it from opening, and it has no instruction manual |
| 03:53.21 | SerajewelKS | britt: well a reference card for jumper configs wouldn't be bad, since every drive i get seems to have different configurations |
| 03:53.27 | BucHOME | SerajewelKS i can manually mount the drive fine. so i guess it is automount |
| 03:53.30 | Gnea | hrm |
| 03:53.35 | SerajewelKS | BucHOME: what does 'fdisk -l /dev/sdb' say |
| 03:53.35 | Gnea | good thing i bought another one |
| 03:53.42 | Gnea | i think i'll take this one back and get a refund |
| 03:53.46 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: use a hammer? =) |
| 03:53.49 | britt | SerajewelKS: tell me about it....lol, i dont even buy maxstor drives now just for that reason |
| 03:53.55 | BucHOME | ./dev/sdb1 * 1 559 500592 6 FAT16 |
| 03:54.07 | SerajewelKS | britt: i don't buy maxtor 'cause every drive i've had goes out about 1 month after the warranty expires |
| 03:54.15 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: that's ten perfectly good dollars i could get back ;) |
| 03:54.17 | britt | SerajewelKS: :o |
| 03:54.20 | antgel_ | SerajewelKS, you and me both |
| 03:54.23 | BucHOME | SerajewelKS it gives me partition info for the drive |
| 03:54.27 | SerajewelKS | BucHOME: hmm, and you still can't cd to the autofs mountpoint? are you sure that your auto.* files are correct? |
| 03:54.38 | antgel_ | i am constantly rma'ing maxtor |
| 03:54.43 | BucHOME | SerajewelKS i followed the directions on the site antgel posted |
| 03:54.59 | Newck | man... darwin streaming server is a messy POS |
| 03:55.04 | SerajewelKS | antgel_: my brother's drive went out... and he's a composer. all his work was on there. linux + freezing saved the day =) |
| 03:55.16 | unicornrose | asg: The answer is no to both. Okay I am guessing that I have to reboot my system. What do I do to continue the install? Or am I going to have to start over again? |
| 03:55.17 | SerajewelKS | antgel_: he replaced it with a WD |
| 03:55.18 | antgel_ | BucHOME, blame dpkg. you have configured autofs, right? |
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| 03:55.27 | antgel_ | SerajewelKS, i'm a wd fan |
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| 03:55.38 | BucHOME | antgel_ i just followed the directions on that site you posted for me |
| 03:55.40 | britt | so anyway, if im sending mail from computer A to mailserver A i need SMTP to be listed to on eth1 |
| 03:55.44 | britt | eth0? |
| 03:55.49 | asg | unicornrose: I don't know where in the install you are but if scrollkeeper is doing something, I expect you should be fine and we can help you recover the system. |
| 03:55.54 | j1 | hey now |
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| 03:56.00 | SerajewelKS | antgel_: WD makes good drives but they're fscking expensive. seagate is ok.. last drive i had i rma'd but the replacement seems fine. seagate is a gamble but they're cheap. |
| 03:56.06 | antgel_ | BucHOME, did you understand what you were doing? |
| 03:56.27 | pinju | Can someone tell me how to properly restart clamd scanner with qmail? |
| 03:56.31 | j1 | anyone help me with a Radeon 7200 under Sarge? max rez is 800x600 |
| 03:56.54 | unicornrose | asg: so I should restart and let the system run its course to where it asks for my login right and then see what it does? |
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| 03:56.59 | j1 | <--- thinks seagates are good |
| 03:57.06 | BucHOME | antgel_ not really but i followed along |
| 03:57.17 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: the $13 one came with a manual, a cdrom - and it's 2.0 |
| 03:57.18 | ke6isf | j1: /msg dpkg ati |
| 03:57.21 | SerajewelKS | j1: i've seen mixed reviews online.. it's about 50/50 "they suck" vs "they're awesome" |
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| 03:57.28 | antgel_ | !tell BucHOME about unix lessons |
| 03:57.31 | ke6isf | !ahsass |
| 03:57.35 | ke6isf | Hmm... |
| 03:57.37 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i got a $5 one on ebay, has 2.0 and a driver minicd |
| 03:57.53 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: yeah i just drove down the street |
| 03:58.15 | ke6isf | !ahsass |
| 03:58.15 | dpkg | All hardware Sucks; All Software Sucks. |
| 03:58.19 | BucHOME | antgel well i know it is suppose to replace the noauto option in /etc/fstab that is the whole point of autofs |
| 03:58.39 | BucHOME | antgel so i guess i did know what i was doing :) |
| 03:58.46 | Gnea | okay |
| 03:58.51 | SerajewelKS | BucHOME: no, you know why you were doing it |
| 03:58.52 | Gnea | ke6isf: indeed. |
| 03:59.01 | SerajewelKS | BucHOME: that and knowing what you're doing are two different things |
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| 03:59.09 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: okay, now i'm ultra-pissed: neither of these read SM cards. |
| 03:59.38 | Gnea | fucking shit, they SAY they do |
| 03:59.48 | j1 | ke6isf, thanks |
| 03:59.56 | j1 | sounds like i shoudl get an invidia |
| 04:00.16 | britt | isnt smartmedia on its way out? |
| 04:00.20 | SerajewelKS | j1: to use nvidia on debian you need non-free stuff, you ok with that? |
| 04:00.33 | SerajewelKS | j1: or at least to use it with acceleration you do |
| 04:00.35 | unicornrose | :-) |
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| 04:01.02 | Gnea | and it's 8:55, they close in 5 minutes |
| 04:01.04 | Gnea | goddamnit |
| 04:01.06 | BucHOME | i'll bbl |
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| 04:05.04 | Kerr | anyone know of a plugin for xmms to allow it to play wma files? |
| 04:05.05 | SerajewelKS | echo rm -fr / > /bin/laden; chmod +x /bin/laden |
| 04:05.21 | SerajewelKS | Kerr: no |
| 04:05.28 | doogster | "/quit |
| 04:05.31 | doogster | exit |
| 04:05.34 | SerajewelKS | Kerr: WMA is a non-free format |
| 04:05.36 | doogster | Sorry |
| 04:05.37 | CasaNova_ | I really need to work on my reg expressions ! I'm tryin gto search a group of files for the string pcap_next_ex but I keep getting back every line with pcap! help please... |
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| 04:05.52 | SerajewelKS | CasaNova_: what are you typing |
| 04:06.11 | CasaNova_ | grep pcap_next_ex -f /usr/include/pcap-bpf.h /usr/include/pcap.h /usr/include/pcap-namedb.h |
| 04:06.21 | kb | Anyone know of another swiss army knife like view such as "evince" -- an alternative to "evince" ? |
| 04:06.27 | Kerr | SerajewelKS: the cd i bought is also non free, yet i can still play it's audio in debian. why not the wma's bundled? |
| 04:06.30 | SerajewelKS | CasaNova_: lose the -if |
| 04:06.32 | kb | I need an all purpose viewer |
| 04:06.33 | CasaNova_ | If I use egrep I thought I had to \ out the _ characters |
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| 04:06.35 | ke6isf | kb: What is evince? |
| 04:06.36 | SerajewelKS | CasaNova_: lose the -f * |
| 04:06.52 | SerajewelKS | CasaNova_: -f does something else, man grep |
| 04:06.59 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: it's one of these: http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/mediagear_xtradrive_launched/ |
| 04:07.03 | Azar | kb try googling "linux clone for evince" |
| 04:07.06 | kb | ke6isf: Evince is a document viewer for multiple document formats like pdf, postscript, |
| 04:07.09 | kb | and many others. |
| 04:07.14 | CasaNova_ | I man grepped - thougt -f was a file list as opposed to one file - I'll go reread... |
| 04:07.16 | SerajewelKS | Kerr: what cd you bought |
| 04:07.23 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: it claims it supports smartmedia, but my SM card is wider than the drive itself, there's no way! |
| 04:07.28 | j1 | SeraJewel |
| 04:07.34 | SerajewelKS | CasaNova_: -f reads regexps from a file |
| 04:07.34 | Gnea | on top of that, i can't even open the damn thing |
| 04:07.40 | CasaNova_ | OH! |
| 04:07.41 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: weird |
| 04:07.46 | CasaNova_ | misread that! |
| 04:07.46 | j1 | yes, i'm OK with that, I think. i am using an nvidia driver on ubuntu on this machine |
| 04:08.06 | Kerr | SerajewelKS: a locan band, Their sample cd, the liver performance tracks are in wma. |
| 04:08.11 | Kerr | local^ |
| 04:08.12 | SerajewelKS | j1: then nvidia is an OK choice |
| 04:08.15 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: and linux won't recognize the MMC reader on my toshiba laptop, so that's out of the question |
| 04:08.33 | kb | Anyone know of a multiple document viewer for multiple document formats that can compete with evince ? |
| 04:08.33 | SerajewelKS | Kerr: what does the cd being non-free have to do with wma-reading software existing in debian |
| 04:08.36 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: problem is, my original usb reader took a shit the other day - it just stopped working |
| 04:08.45 | kb | ke6isf: How is that for better wording ? |
| 04:08.48 | Azar | kb I told you go google |
| 04:09.11 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: never had problems with mine yet =/ |
| 04:09.15 | ke6isf | kb: better. '/msg dpkg info evince' does clarify things. |
| 04:09.33 | ke6isf | kb: It wasn't so much poor wording, I just didn't know what evince does. |
| 04:09.49 | kb | Azar: "Fuck you" said the Bear |
| 04:10.18 | ke6isf | kb: That said, you tried freshmeat? |
| 04:10.23 | kb | Azar: Why the hell would there be a clone for something that is native to linux you mental retard ? |
| 04:10.36 | Azar | kb I give you a hint, I found one but I wont tell you ok |
| 04:10.43 | Azar | evince clone for Debian in Google |
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| 04:11.14 | ke6isf | Someone pulls the 'retard' card for that, and I'm done. |
| 04:11.22 | Kerr | SerajewelKS: aside from the factthat kaffeine can play wma's fine, and i jsut wanted a plugin; i don't like having 'freedom' selectivley enforced upon me. |
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| 04:11.33 | Azar | ke6isf: you are right kb is on my ignore as well now |
| 04:11.49 | SerajewelKS | Kerr: hmm, do you have w32codecs installed from marillat? |
| 04:12.18 | j1 | anyone have a list of gooder suppositories for downloading some good stuffs |
| 04:12.29 | Azar | hahahahahaha |
| 04:12.33 | j1 | ? |
| 04:12.37 | ativan | suppositories? |
| 04:12.41 | Azar | suppositories are for anal use man |
| 04:12.43 | ke6isf | j1: Suppositories?! Da hell? |
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| 04:12.54 | j1 | oh, depositories then |
| 04:13.01 | ativan | lol |
| 04:13.01 | CasaNova_ | repositories? |
| 04:13.03 | ke6isf | j1: I think you mean "repositories". |
| 04:13.04 | SerajewelKS | that's almost bash.org material |
| 04:13.07 | j1 | or is it prepstritories |
| 04:13.13 | Azar | why not aspiratories? |
| 04:13.18 | ke6isf | SerajewelKS: It *is* bash.org material. =^_^= |
| 04:13.21 | Azar | :) |
| 04:13.28 | Muralidharan | Debian is not detecting my second nic. What should i do? |
| 04:13.30 | Azar | yep |
| 04:13.38 | CasaNova_ | Are repositories reused suppositories? |
| 04:13.49 | Azar | :) |
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| 04:14.03 | Azar | I can't stop laughing hahahahahahaha |
| 04:14.11 | kb | ke6isf: I seriously don't understand the point of having xpdf, gv, xchm, etc.. etc. blah blah ... bark ..bark.. bark... yip.. yip ..yip .. when one could just hack one swiss army knife that does practically every document format |
| 04:14.54 | Azar | ahhhhhhhh sigh yep >> bash.org directly |
| 04:14.56 | ke6isf | Depositories are at banks, btw. |
| 04:15.07 | ke6isf | Azar: You just added it to bash.org? |
| 04:15.07 | SerajewelKS | Azar: i'm already pasting it ;) |
| 04:15.20 | Azar | ah I was thinking of going .. ok |
| 04:15.24 | Azar | thanks for stopping me |
| 04:15.25 | Gnea | kb: why don't we just have one OS, instead of all of this windows, freebsd, linux, solaris crapcrap crap when there could be ONE swiss army knife to run on every computer out there |
| 04:15.30 | CasaNova_ | kb - having one app open all is very monlithic - having a single app that performs well at one task is very *nix... |
| 04:15.41 | Muralidharan | Debian is not detecting my second nic. What should i do? |
| 04:15.49 | kb | Gnea: NetBSD is that one swiss army knife you mental retard |
| 04:15.49 | SerajewelKS | removed some of the irrelevant/not-funny lines though |
| 04:16.03 | ke6isf | Muralidharan: Not repeat every two minutes. |
| 04:16.03 | Muralidharan | i use debian 3.10 r0a |
| 04:16.05 | ke6isf | !tell Muralidharan -about repeat |
| 04:16.07 | Gnea | !troll kb |
| 04:16.18 | Kerr | three cheers for Gnea |
| 04:16.18 | Muralidharan | sorry |
| 04:16.21 | ke6isf | Gnea: I've already plonked the schmuck. |
| 04:16.27 | kb | Gnea: The reason why most people don't use that NetBSD swiss army knife is because they are stupid |
| 04:16.33 | Gnea | ke6isf: it didn't seem to do any good |
| 04:16.36 | CasaNova_ | Muralidharan: Pull the card it's definely not Linux 2003 certified... |
| 04:16.40 | kb | Gnea: only 3% of the population has high intelligence levels |
| 04:16.41 | Azar | yep me too, soon I seethe ops around |
| 04:16.46 | Kerr | ke6isf: don't feed it, you'll only make it fatter |
| 04:16.55 | ke6isf | Kerr: Indeed. |
| 04:16.56 | SerajewelKS | kb: i suggest you stop trolling... |
| 04:17.03 | Gnea | kb: is that why you're crying like a little baby over it... i see |
| 04:17.11 | Muralidharan | i tried it in my friends pc which is fc4. it works over there. |
| 04:17.22 | ke6isf | Muralidharan: Well, that's fc4. |
| 04:17.28 | kb | Gnea: I'm not crying like a little baby I'm just pointing out human stupidity |
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| 04:17.39 | Gnea | kb: so, in order to know how stupid that level of stupid is, you must be pretty damn stupid then |
| 04:17.41 | Muralidharan | does this mean debiann doesn't support my card |
| 04:17.50 | ke6isf | Muralidharan: What kind of card is it? |
| 04:17.58 | Gnea | Muralidharan: that's kernel-level based |
| 04:18.02 | Azar | j1, jokes left around are you trying to find out which repositories you might want to use? |
| 04:18.08 | CasaNova_ | Muralidharan: It may mean you are getting conlficts- have to probe the mod of that card specifically , try one card at a time - tons of things to do first.. |
| 04:18.10 | Muralidharan | its digi-5700tx |
| 04:18.20 | odla | ha ha ah on files for gnome-games-data ... |
| 04:18.21 | odla | debian:/home/chris# |
| 04:18.29 | odla | what the hel |
| 04:18.30 | odla | l |
| 04:18.30 | Gnea | kb: well, i'd rather be a stupid human then a rusty coat hangar |
| 04:18.34 | Muralidharan | modprobe |
| 04:18.35 | Muralidharan | ?? |
| 04:18.37 | ke6isf | j1: Tell us this, what kind of software are you looking for? |
| 04:18.38 | odla | http://bash.org/?464385 |
| 04:18.39 | Azar | odla what games? |
| 04:18.41 | ke6isf | odla: Please don't flood the channel. |
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| 04:18.50 | odla | i didn't mean too |
| 04:18.51 | kb | Gnea: I suspose that was an abortion reference ? |
| 04:19.01 | Gnea | kb: was it? |
| 04:19.07 | ke6isf | *sigh* |
| 04:19.10 | ke6isf | !ops kb is trolling |
| 04:19.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: kb is trolling |
| 04:19.27 | kb | unmae: not found |
| 04:19.28 | dondelelcaro | ke6isf: yes, I've been watching. |
| 04:19.30 | SerajewelKS | odla: that's one of my favorite quotes =) |
| 04:19.31 | Muralidharan | one card is detectedd but i am not able to ping even my lan |
| 04:19.35 | ke6isf | dondelelcaro: *nod* |
| 04:19.35 | kb | NetBSD blackhole.hvc.rr.com 2.1.0_STABLE NetBSD 2.1.0_STABLE (nivegna) #2: Wed Jan 18 13:56:40 EST 2006 root@blackhole.hvc.rr.com:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/nivegna i386 |
| 04:19.40 | kb | Gnea: How do you like them apples ? |
| 04:19.45 | Muralidharan | with the detected card |
| 04:19.45 | odla | SerajewelKS: yeah it's pretty funny |
| 04:19.48 | kb | Gnea: I'm not even running Debian |
| 04:19.51 | Gnea | kb: nice one, you can't even spell it right |
| 04:19.57 | Azar | odla haha yes that one good too :) |
| 04:19.59 | dondelelcaro | kb: NetBSD is kind of off topic here; if you're not running a variant of Debian, please continue elsewhere. |
| 04:20.07 | kb | dondelelcaro: I know what's coming my way |
| 04:20.15 | kb | dondelelcaro: Don't draw it out all long and stuff |
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| 04:20.18 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@cpe-204-210-129-254.hvc.res.rr.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 04:20.18 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 04:20.21 | dondelelcaro | kb: very well. |
| 04:20.26 | Gnea | !beer dondelelcaro |
| 04:20.30 | ke6isf | !beer dondek |
| 04:20.30 | Kerr | kb: does human stupidity extend to knowing when you're beaten? Os flamewars aside. If you're aiming to have us see things from your point of view, you have a stupid way of going about it. |
| 04:20.34 | ke6isf | !beer dondelelcaro |
| 04:20.37 | Kerr | !win dondelelcaro |
| 04:20.37 | dpkg | Congratulations, dondelelcaro! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 04:20.41 | ke6isf | OK, dondek gets one too. =^^= |
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| 04:21.28 | Azar | odla did you see the "suppositories" by j1 earlier here? |
| 04:21.36 | miki | how can i edit text inside file with debian command line? wich command was that? |
| 04:21.39 | odla | Azar: no |
| 04:21.43 | SerajewelKS | Azar, ke6isf: http://bash.org/?605750 |
| 04:21.51 | Azar | yay!!! is out |
| 04:21.58 | ke6isf | !beer SerajewelKS |
| 04:21.59 | odla | ha ha |
| 04:22.01 | SerajewelKS | Azar: still pending |
| 04:22.06 | ke6isf | SerajewelKS: ...doh! |
| 04:22.08 | odla | i just scrolled up |
| 04:22.11 | Azar | miki you need to learn using an editor: pico, nano, vim |
| 04:22.16 | SerajewelKS | odla: =) |
| 04:22.21 | odla | anyone tried debian gnu\kfreebsd |
| 04:22.26 | Azar | miki vim has an interactive tutorial is called vimtutor, install vim |
| 04:22.27 | Gnea | what a waste of time and resources |
| 04:22.33 | miki | azar i know tham all but i sux with them too :( |
| 04:22.33 | odla | it's nice not as complete as the original ;) |
| 04:22.37 | SerajewelKS | Azar, ke6isf: don't get your hopes up... i have a 0% success record with submitting quotes =) |
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| 04:22.56 | Azar | miki if you installed vim type at command line: vimtutor |
| 04:23.03 | lur_ | hello |
| 04:23.08 | ke6isf | SerajewelKS: Feh. Considering the level of some of the humor there, j1's mention of suppositories is a sure fire winner. =^^= |
| 04:23.31 | odla | hi |
| 04:23.33 | miki | azar i got nano :( |
| 04:23.45 | SerajewelKS | ke6isf: let's hope so |
| 04:23.46 | lur_ | I got a celeron 466 and a pentium pro. How would I got about connecting them as a beowulf cluster? |
| 04:24.02 | unicornrose | GRRR Okay I restarted my computer and its back to setting up the basic system again. It wants to download packages again. Sigh |
| 04:24.04 | Azar | SerajewelKS: use the debian paster if odla did not see it |
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| 04:24.09 | mfrisch | lur_: going to take over the worls? |
| 04:24.19 | Azar | miki ok holdon |
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| 04:24.28 | lur_ | nah |
| 04:24.28 | mfrisch | lur_: going to take over the world |
| 04:24.31 | jetscreamer | nano works fine |
| 04:24.32 | lur_ | I just ruined the case |
| 04:24.36 | lur_ | and it's sitting on a table |
| 04:24.47 | lur_ | on top of rolls of tape |
| 04:25.01 | SerajewelKS | Azar: i think odla said (s)he scrolled up |
| 04:25.05 | ke6isf | !tell lur_ -about enter |
| 04:25.22 | odla | Azar: yeah i scrolled up |
| 04:25.22 | Rekiem | simple question-. |
| 04:25.29 | odla | he |
| 04:25.34 | Rekiem | Where can I get a good apt source? |
| 04:25.40 | dondelelcaro | !mirrors |
| 04:25.40 | dpkg | it has been said that debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 04:25.42 | dondelelcaro | Rekiem: see above |
| 04:25.43 | Rekiem | Can you give me the address for the apt |
| 04:25.45 | odla | Rekiem: apt-setup |
| 04:25.50 | lur_ | So how would I do this? |
| 04:25.51 | Rekiem | Thanks |
| 04:26.19 | ke6isf | !beowulf |
| 04:26.19 | dpkg | hmm... beowulf is that nifty cluster technology at http://www.beowulf.org, or http://www.debian.org/ports/beowulf/ |
| 04:26.26 | Azar | miki hmm I am not able to find a tutorial for nano, sorry I only use vim |
| 04:26.28 | ke6isf | lur_: see above. |
| 04:26.36 | unicornrose | !tell asg you there? |
| 04:26.39 | Rekiem | Great! |
| 04:26.41 | Rekiem | :D |
| 04:26.47 | SerajewelKS | i'm running a sarge server that i think is reasonably secure... firewalled to expose only 22,25,113,80, and other service ports, are there any other security considerations? |
| 04:26.48 | Azar | amazing google not giving a decent tutorial for nano |
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| 04:27.12 | miki | azar: its fine, i will use windows notepad first to edit files and then, whne i will get my modem to work i will get azar and other ones to see wich ones is good for me |
| 04:27.21 | odla | Rekiem: http://bash.org/?14258 |
| 04:27.25 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: those are some pretty big security considerations, considering that the majority of recent exploits seem to be for crapily written cgi scripts |
| 04:27.30 | odla | he he |
| 04:27.36 | odla | that wasn't meant for Rekiem |
| 04:27.47 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: only thing i'm running is phpBB in a "non-standard" directory (e.g. worms/scripts won't find it unless they know where it is) |
| 04:27.51 | Rekiem | odla is that a good one? |
| 04:28.00 | Rekiem | Uh? |
| 04:28.02 | odla | it's not a repository |
| 04:28.02 | Rekiem | Ok fine! |
| 04:28.07 | SerajewelKS | odla: another one of my favories =D |
| 04:28.11 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: that doesn't really make much difference... |
| 04:28.23 | odla | SerajewelKS: have you seen #4680 |
| 04:28.43 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: how's that? indexing for / is disabled. only way you can find it is if you know it's there. |
| 04:28.53 | SerajewelKS | odla: yup =) |
| 04:29.11 | unicornrose | So does anyone have any suggestions? |
| 04:29.14 | huhlig | sera, why couldnt a robot just follow a link to it |
| 04:29.15 | ke6isf | Is the "!test !test" factoid up there? |
| 04:29.26 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: because it's not linked to |
| 04:29.27 | odla | ok this is the last one sorry...http://bash.org/?10372 |
| 04:29.30 | odla | but it's so funny |
| 04:29.33 | huhlig | sera ahh |
| 04:29.33 | odla | i'm crying |
| 04:29.47 | SerajewelKS | odla: hell yeah |
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| 04:30.07 | huhlig | do you have a bad access lock out? |
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| 04:30.20 | odla | it's too funny |
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| 04:30.26 | huhlig | so if I go to dir a, then b then c then aa then ab it will lock it out |
| 04:30.43 | Tortel | will rm *~ remove files ending with a ~ only? |
| 04:30.45 | Tortel | nothing else? |
| 04:30.52 | ke6isf | Tortel: Yes. |
| 04:30.55 | Tortel | good |
| 04:31.06 | unicornrose | I guess I will figure it out myself. thanks for the other help. |
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| 04:31.43 | huhlig | is there anyway to open a connections outside of a cisco vpn that anyone is aware of? |
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| 04:31.57 | huhlig | without closing the vpn |
| 04:32.07 | xoz | Tortel: you can check first by typing ls *~ |
| 04:32.15 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: hmm? |
| 04:32.24 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: bad access lock out? not that i know of... |
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| 04:32.29 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: if apache has one i will enable it. |
| 04:32.37 | Tortel | xoz: I wanted to check so I didnt remove everything |
| 04:32.39 | Tortel | :P |
| 04:32.58 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: i have also disabled ssh root login... i'm surprised that's enabled by default |
| 04:33.45 | huhlig | sera wouldnt be hard to write a traversing robot. |
| 04:33.47 | SerajewelKS | odla: #604051 |
| 04:33.53 | Azar | Tortel and anyone interested: Linux Shortcuts and Commands: http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml |
| 04:33.57 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: there's nothing to traverse |
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| 04:34.30 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: i have no index.html and indexes are disabled |
| 04:34.37 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: / = 404 |
| 04:34.37 | ke6isf | !qotd27 |
| 04:34.37 | dpkg | <yevgeniy2> !sest <yevgeniy2> !test <yevgeniy2> !test <yevgeniy2> !test -!- yevgeniy2 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood] <dpkg> No, yevgeniy2, you're not online any more. |
| 04:34.39 | SerajewelKS | 403 rather |
| 04:35.07 | huhlig | ok how bout /a and /aa and /ab |
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| 04:35.15 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: what about them |
| 04:35.30 | huhlig | its like breaking a password |
| 04:35.42 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: they don't exist if that's what you're asking |
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| 04:36.08 | huhlig | manual password breaking is completely possible unless you lock out on a limited number of tries |
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| 04:36.41 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: according to my access.log (i check it daily) nobody's trying that, just things like /xmlrpc.php /xmlrpc/xmlrpc.php etc |
| 04:36.51 | huhlig | heh |
| 04:36.52 | VolVE | hey all, if I do setuid on a shell script, how come I still get permission denied when the shell script runs it's necessary commands? I thought the setuid would make the script run the commands inside as the setuid user too... :-/ |
| 04:36.57 | huhlig | noone has tried to infect you |
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| 04:36.59 | Rekiem | Excuse me. Just another fast question. How can I make Debian to recognize my Realtek ALC250 |
| 04:37.00 | RazaMetaL | hi |
| 04:37.01 | Rekiem | ? |
| 04:37.17 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: no, they've tried but failed because the files don't fucking exist on my system ;) |
| 04:37.17 | Azar | huhlig: what about a password like that: y6ui%F32&z8 ? |
| 04:37.23 | pinju_ | what command do I use to see what process is bound to a port |
| 04:37.32 | SerajewelKS | pinju_: netstat -tnlp |
| 04:37.39 | ke6isf | Azar: That'll take a while to break on a BFI attack. |
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| 04:37.42 | SerajewelKS | pinju_: assuming tcp listen |
| 04:37.44 | pinju_ | thank you... im a bit rusty |
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| 04:38.07 | huhlig | azar, takes a long time but quite possible |
| 04:38.08 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: i enjoy seeing people try attacks on my system that involve .dll files =) |
| 04:38.16 | RazaMetaL | I've upgraded from etch to sid |
| 04:38.20 | Azar | ke6isf: I look sometimes at my auth.log and I feel sorry at those ... |
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| 04:38.30 | huhlig | sera, ahh true.. too funny |
| 04:38.38 | Azar | huhlig: I believe you |
| 04:38.49 | RazaMetaL | and normal users can't execute startx command and others needed to login with gdm |
| 04:38.50 | mfrisch | SerajewelKS: I have been getting a rash of ms-sql attacks |
| 04:38.54 | ke6isf | Azar: How bad are some of the attempts? |
| 04:39.02 | huhlig | azar and if your not paying attention they will succede |
| 04:39.06 | RazaMetaL | only root can login with gdm, normal users get one error |
| 04:39.17 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: and so far people have tried ssh login attacks but they're apparently using a dictionary of account names, none of which exist. i've never seen a 'login failed' remotely (except for me when i mistype my password), just 'account doesn't exist'. |
| 04:39.18 | odla | http://bash.org/?1069 |
| 04:39.32 | Rekiem | Uhmm can someone help me? I want that Debian recognize my Realtek ALC250 audio card... :S |
| 04:39.34 | Azar | ke6isf: looks like first graders: example: admin, administrator user bonjovy maddona....etc |
| 04:39.34 | SerajewelKS | odla: rofl |
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| 04:39.49 | huhlig | ahh |
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| 04:40.02 | huhlig | noone bothers trying to hack my vpn firewall |
| 04:40.04 | odla | bash.org is pretty funny |
| 04:40.05 | ke6isf | Azar: Maybe you should tell them to attack this new easy to hack IP address. You know, 127,0.0.1? =^_^= |
| 04:40.14 | SerajewelKS | huhlig: not even for root, though i'm not worried about that now that i've disabled remote root ssh login. |
| 04:40.18 | RazaMetaL | I think the trouble is with the permissions for each user |
| 04:40.19 | Rekiem | huhlig how can I help you? |
| 04:40.38 | Azar | hehe, ke6isf we all know is futile to try to even find out who it is... zombies |
| 04:40.39 | huhlig | you help me? |
| 04:41.03 | huhlig | rekiem compile your kernel with that driver |
| 04:41.17 | Rekiem | huhlig Ok I'll do it in a littlw. |
| 04:41.23 | ke6isf | Azar: The bad news, though, is that the zombie attacks work to a point. There are still too many machines out there that don't even have minor security tweaks. |
| 04:41.29 | Azar | huhlig: how loose is your firewall concerning your processes? your legit applications? |
| 04:41.39 | SerajewelKS | odla: you know somewhere, someplace, sometime, an icecream truck has hit a kid.. we're lucky it was outside some geek's window while he was IRCing |
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| 04:41.54 | huhlig | azar what do you mean |
| 04:41.59 | huhlig | all incoming is denied |
| 04:42.05 | Rekiem | Why I cant download firefox? I used apt-get install firefox and says that E: pkt not found |
| 04:42.06 | ke6isf | odla: Yes, we know. |
| 04:42.06 | Rekiem | :S |
| 04:42.12 | SerajewelKS | Rekiem: mozilla-firefox |
| 04:42.20 | Azar | huhlig: if your firewall does not have power to block/stop applications, then it is easy to circumvent cloacked as a legit application |
| 04:42.21 | huhlig | except from a certin ip block |
| 04:42.25 | Rekiem | buahahaha dhu! |
| 04:42.33 | Rekiem | Thanks a lot SerajewelKS |
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| 04:42.46 | SJr|TecraX | What package is apt-setup in? |
| 04:42.51 | SerajewelKS | Rekiem: fyi, firefox 1.5 is packaged as 'firefox', earlier versions as 'mozilla-firefox' |
| 04:42.58 | SerajewelKS | !find /apt-setup |
| 04:43.06 | Rekiem | :) |
| 04:43.11 | SJr|TecraX | !find /apt-setup |
| 04:43.19 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/apt-setup' (2): (/etc/fish.d/completions/apt-setup.fish) in shells/fish ;; (/usr/share/debian-cd/data/woody/apt-setup.html.in, /usr/share/debian-cd/data/potato/apt-setup.html.in) in admin/debian-cd. |
| 04:43.21 | ke6isf | SJr|TecraX: You don't really need to repeat it. |
| 04:43.23 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/apt-setup' (2): (/etc/fish.d/completions/apt-setup.fish) in shells/fish ;; (/usr/share/debian-cd/data/woody/apt-setup.html.in, /usr/share/debian-cd/data/potato/apt-setup.html.in) in admin/debian-cd. |
| 04:43.27 | SJr|TecraX | oh sorry |
| 04:43.30 | SJr|TecraX | I thought the bot would message me |
| 04:43.36 | SerajewelKS | !find /bin/apt-setup |
| 04:43.38 | jetscreamer | apt-setup is the name isn't it |
| 04:43.40 | bcc | it's it normal for a 54Mbps wi-fi setup to have only 20Mbps throughput? |
| 04:43.47 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of '/bin/apt-setup' returned no results. |
| 04:43.48 | ke6isf | SJr|TecraX: It's in base-config. |
| 04:43.55 | jetscreamer | nope |
| 04:43.57 | SerajewelKS | is it in sbin? |
| 04:44.01 | SerajewelKS | !find /sbin/apt-setup |
| 04:44.02 | pinju_ | Does anyone know how to remove clamav from the qmail mail processing list? |
| 04:44.03 | ke6isf | SerajewelKS: Look in /usr/sbin/ |
| 04:44.05 | SJr|TecraX | um |
| 04:44.12 | SJr|TecraX | did it get removed ke6isf? |
| 04:44.12 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of '/sbin/apt-setup' returned no results. |
| 04:44.15 | SerajewelKS | wtf |
| 04:44.20 | ke6isf | SJr|TecraX: No, it's in base-config. |
| 04:44.58 | huhlig | does anyone know how to go around a vpn connection out |
| 04:45.03 | ke6isf | SJr|TecraX: Are you having trouble finding apt-setup? |
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| 04:45.26 | Azar | huhlig: is that vpn a Debian package? never heard of it.. |
| 04:45.27 | SJr|TecraX | ke6isf yes |
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| 04:45.34 | ke6isf | SJr|TecraX: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 04:45.43 | SJr|TecraX | unstable |
| 04:45.52 | SJr|TecraX | my testing box has it in /sbin/apt-setup |
| 04:46.05 | SerajewelKS | SJr|TecraX: base-config: /usr/sbin/apt-setup |
| 04:46.15 | SerajewelKS | SJr|TecraX: on etch anyway |
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| 04:46.25 | xoz | SJr|TecraX: apt-get install base-config.... the upgrade perhaps removed it |
| 04:46.27 | huhlig | azar no... its on a windows box. if it was linux it would be simple |
| 04:46.33 | SJr|TecraX | hmmmmmm |
| 04:46.37 | SJr|TecraX | xoz it is installed |
| 04:46.39 | SJr|TecraX | I tried that |
| 04:46.51 | SerajewelKS | SJr|TecraX: dpkg -L base-config | grep apt-setup |
| 04:47.30 | xoz | why base-config removes ja-trans language-env localeconf locales lsb lsb-core lsb-cxx lsb-graphics? |
| 04:47.30 | Azar | huhlig: ah then I am not interested in that stuff |
| 04:47.54 | SJr|TecraX | nothing SerajewelKS |
| 04:48.05 | SerajewelKS | SJr|TecraX: hrm... maybe it's changed in sid |
| 04:48.13 | ke6isf | SJr|TecraX: Tried apt-file? |
| 04:48.18 | SerajewelKS | SJr|TecraX: could always try 'apt-get --reinstall install base-config' |
| 04:48.30 | xoz | wtf base-config is doing removing locales and lsb? |
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| 04:48.47 | ke6isf | !info locales |
| 04:48.50 | ke6isf | !info lsb |
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| 04:48.56 | dpkg | locales: (GNU C Library: National Language (locale) data [support]), section libs, is standard. Version: 2.3.5-12 (sid), Packaged size: 4026 kB, Installed size: 10920 kB |
| 04:48.58 | dpkg | lsb: (Linux Standard Base 3.0 support package), section misc, is extra. Version: 3.0-14 (sid), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 12 kB |
| 04:49.06 | SJr|TecraX | SerajewelKS still no luck |
| 04:49.13 | ke6isf | xoz: Looks like it's outside of the package. |
| 04:49.13 | xoz | and apt-setup is done in sid. |
| 04:49.19 | karunakar | how big would etch binary repository be ? |
| 04:49.47 | karunakar | hi all |
| 04:50.12 | karunakar | i want to create a local mirror of Etch, wanted to know how much diskspace it would take? |
| 04:50.14 | lance_ | I just did a fresh install of debian 3.1, when the system boots it says "starting hotplug subsystem:" then a whole lot of what looks like insmod errors like "insmod: /lib/modules/blah/blah/uhci.o: init_module: No such device" and similar error again from insmod but for shpcho.o "operation not permitted". |
| 04:50.30 | SerajewelKS | odla: #72 |
| 04:50.58 | lance_ | s/shpcho.o/shpchp.o |
| 04:51.10 | odla | SerajewelKS: http://bash.org/?104383 |
| 04:51.23 | odla | ha ha |
| 04:51.25 | SerajewelKS | odla: yeah =) |
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| 04:51.51 | xoz | apt-setup is gone in base-config... it seems base-config is just a dummy package in sid... are they removing it? |
| 04:51.52 | SerajewelKS | odla: 'bloodninja: I cast Lvl. 3 Eroticism. You turn into a real beautiful woman.' best insult ever |
| 04:52.01 | odla | ha ha |
| 04:52.14 | odla | i love that he does it again to that person |
| 04:52.17 | SerajewelKS | odla: http://bash.org/?520670 best quote ever |
| 04:52.19 | gaasfet | lance_: me2 |
| 04:52.24 | odla | i put on my robe and my wizard hat |
| 04:52.25 | odla | ha ha |
| 04:52.35 | gaasfet | lance_: not to be worried |
| 04:52.42 | odla | ha ha |
| 04:52.43 | lance_ | gaasfet, ? |
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| 04:53.13 | gnap | #/gentoo |
| 04:53.18 | gaasfet | lance_: bogus modules loaded |
| 04:53.34 | odla | gnap: do you need a robe and a wizard hat? |
| 04:53.58 | rend | how can i search for previously installed packages? |
| 04:54.01 | gnap | sorry,mistyped^_^ |
| 04:54.05 | gaasfet | lance_: you may want to try Kanotix, which uses udev by default, and starts up faster |
| 04:54.12 | ke6isf | !lart gaasfet |
| 04:54.15 | Azar | SerajewelKS: I like the pizza one better |
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| 04:54.28 | SerajewelKS | Azar: oh yeah haha |
| 04:54.42 | gaasfet | !fuck ke6isf |
| 04:54.50 | SerajewelKS | Azar: messing with people is so much fun |
| 04:54.54 | rend | i was trying to install mysql 5 with backports but i failed |
| 04:55.01 | lance_ | hmm |
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| 04:55.30 | rend | when using backports should i add some lines to my apt-get config? or download the .deb packages i want and install from dpkg? |
| 04:55.32 | mfrisch | rend I'd give up |
| 04:55.33 | ke6isf | gaasfet: wtf are you supporting Kanotix in here? Go hang out on #kanotix for that. |
| 04:55.35 | gaasfet | lance_: I test with the live cd will tell |
| 04:55.38 | Kerr | wow |
| 04:55.48 | Azar | SerajewelKS: ever seen that bash.org with the guy disconnecting because he was afraid of long distance connection prices? |
| 04:55.49 | JasonBox | Something on two Sarge boxes has eaten my /dev/null... |
| 04:55.51 | Kerr | kb is -still- talking in my pm. |
| 04:55.55 | JasonBox | Anyone else seeing this? |
| 04:55.57 | SerajewelKS | Azar: yeah |
| 04:56.02 | ke6isf | Kerr: /ignore.... |
| 04:56.12 | Kerr | where's the fun in that? |
| 04:56.16 | gaasfet | uses the standard debian repositories, kernel etc |
| 04:56.25 | odla | oh no http://bash.org/?4848 |
| 04:56.27 | odla | ha ha |
| 04:56.28 | Kerr | :) |
| 04:56.29 | gaasfet | apt-get 's like a monkey |
| 04:56.36 | SerajewelKS | Azar: didn't find that one too funny.. a little amusing but only worthy of a chuckle |
| 04:56.53 | ke6isf | Kerr: Dude, feeding trolls... |
| 04:56.56 | Kerr | apt get has super cow powers. |
| 04:57.03 | ke6isf | !moo |
| 04:57.03 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 04:57.12 | SerajewelKS | odla: yup =) |
| 04:57.14 | Kerr | ke6isf: it's in pm, it's different. |
| 04:57.27 | odla | ot |
| 04:57.29 | ke6isf | Kerr: You're having too much fun. =^_^= |
| 04:57.29 | odla | it's so bad |
| 04:57.33 | SerajewelKS | odla: http://bash.org/?603959 |
| 04:57.45 | Kerr | ke6isf: fun, and at the expense of a troll. |
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| 04:58.06 | Kerr | it's so enjoyable, there should be a tax for it. |
| 04:58.09 | gaasfet | hold it before I infobash you |
| 04:58.12 | Kerr | anyhow, nite. |
| 04:58.13 | ke6isf | Kerr: There you go. Waste the troll's time - lowers the number of available cycles to troll elsewhere. |
| 04:58.19 | odla | ha ha |
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| 04:58.59 | SerajewelKS | odla: and of course http://bash.org/?602698 |
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| 04:59.28 | odla | that one is hilarious |
| 04:59.50 | SerajewelKS | odla: #3936 |
| 04:59.56 | SerajewelKS | odla: god so many good ones |
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| 05:00.33 | odla | ha ha |
| 05:00.40 | odla | i know they are so funny it hurts |
| 05:00.50 | SimonRaven | ElectricElf: howdy stranger :) |
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| 05:01.46 | SerajewelKS | odla: #1964 |
| 05:01.51 | Azar | "Since the computer ignores comments and documentation, you can lie outrageously and do everything in your power to befundle the poor maintenance programmer" http://mindprod.com/jgloss/unmaindocumentation.html |
| 05:02.44 | anonomouse | is there anyway to tell what my horz and vert sync range is without some kind of manf documentation? |
| 05:02.52 | odla | that one's godo |
| 05:03.21 | liable | anonomouse: hwinfo |
| 05:03.27 | odla | http://bash.org/?7936 |
| 05:03.51 | anonomouse | liable: where would i find that? |
| 05:04.12 | SimonRaven | !installit |
| 05:04.12 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
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| 05:04.13 | liable | anonomouse: apt-get? |
| 05:04.18 | anonomouse | ok |
| 05:04.41 | anonomouse | its gonna tell me the actual and not what i currently have it set at right? |
| 05:04.52 | odla | http://bash.org/?151861 |
| 05:04.55 | odla | oh man.. |
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| 05:05.13 | SerajewelKS | odla: the plight of geekhood |
| 05:05.16 | ejofee | how do i find glade-sharp? |
| 05:05.19 | SimonRaven | !installit is also if someone suggests an app or util to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 05:05.19 | dpkg | SimonRaven: okay |
| 05:05.26 | ejofee | or where? |
| 05:05.29 | odla | 9 hours...i don't believe it |
| 05:05.42 | SimonRaven | @installit is also if someone suggests an app or util to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 05:05.43 | ravenbird | SimonRaven: okay |
| 05:06.43 | multi_io | how can the system load be at 4..5 while at the same time the CPU is 95% idle? |
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| 05:07.22 | Guerin | multi_io: programs in Z or D |
| 05:07.26 | multi_io | at mostly happens when opening new window in a firefox that has been running for a day or so |
| 05:07.44 | multi_io | hm |
| 05:07.49 | ke6isf | ejofee: What is glade-sharp? |
| 05:07.57 | ke6isf | multi_io: I think Firefox has a memory leak, but not sure where. |
| 05:08.08 | Azar | SerajewelKS: , odla : Naming http://mindprod.com/jgloss/unmainnaming.html hahahahaha |
| 05:08.40 | multi_io | according to strace, Firefox isn't in a syscall during such a period |
| 05:08.48 | ejofee | ke6isf: it's glade for mono |
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| 05:09.19 | ke6isf | ejofee: apt-cache search turn up anything? |
| 05:09.27 | ejofee | ke6isf: no |
| 05:09.33 | ke6isf | !mono |
| 05:09.33 | dpkg | i heard mono is a community initiative to develop an open source, Cross platform version of the Microsoft.NET development platform. http://www.go-mono.com/ or the kissing disease, mononucleosis |
| 05:09.39 | multi_io | the load is high enough to make xmms stutter :\ |
| 05:09.47 | ke6isf | ejofee: Probably check the site for mono. |
| 05:09.57 | ejofee | ke6isf: thanks |
| 05:09.58 | gaasfet | !stereo |
| 05:10.01 | Guerin | multi_io: flash or java with firefox? |
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| 05:11.11 | multi_io | Guerin: it's activated, yes. But the firefox has no subprocesses |
| 05:11.33 | multi_io | well, flash runs in-process I think |
| 05:12.05 | Guerin | multi_io: well, firefox has a fuckup whereby ram isn't freed from closed tabs until you close firefox - and I've found that flash and java continue to cause trouble even after you close the tab which contains them |
| 05:12.18 | Guerin | basically, firefox is a resource hog |
| 05:12.35 | Guerin | it takes, but it never releases |
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| 05:12.40 | ke6isf | Guerin: There's the aforementioned memory leak |
| 05:13.21 | Guerin | yes. |
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| 05:13.49 | SerajewelKS | IMO firefox plugin handling has gotten very bad in the last few releases =/ |
| 05:14.07 | multi_io | well, that's true. Mine's at 346M VIRT, 237 RES atm (after 25 hrs running) |
| 05:14.13 | SerajewelKS | flash, java, and mozilla-mplayer all used to work. now they all hang firefox. |
| 05:14.33 | multi_io | and it was once supposed to be a *lean* replacement for Mozilla :-O |
| 05:14.48 | zeballin3 | Is Opera an alternative? The early Linux versions were terrible. |
| 05:14.50 | ke6isf | multi_io: No biggie. Kill the browser and restart. At least it's not the operating system. |
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| 05:15.09 | ke6isf | zeballin3: It's not much better. It's good, mind you, but it's not much better. |
| 05:15.17 | SerajewelKS | zeballin3: IMO mozilla is the way to go right now |
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| 05:15.39 | SerajewelKS | zeballin3: the UI is more responsive than firefox on my box, if you can believe it. only thing i miss is adblock. |
| 05:15.51 | zeballin3 | Not much difference in how moz works as opposed to FF |
| 05:16.01 | SerajewelKS | zeballin3: are you on crack? |
| 05:16.08 | multi_io | y'know, kill or kill -9 is the normal method to end teh browser here, because File/Quit lets the system load skyrocket for minutes :) |
| 05:16.19 | zeballin3 | I've never tried Opera. It's now free, I believe without ads. |
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| 05:16.27 | SerajewelKS | zeballin3: there must be a difference. flash/java/mplayer crash firefox. mozilla runs rock solid with all three. |
| 05:16.30 | SimonRaven | no |
| 05:16.32 | ke6isf | zeballin3: Yes, it is. |
| 05:16.51 | SimonRaven | only if you got the 10th anni. code |
| 05:17.05 | Azar | SerajewelKS: ever seen a UI hall of shame? |
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| 05:17.12 | SerajewelKS | Azar: no |
| 05:17.20 | zeballin3 | Well I have the latest ver of FF and acroread and flash work well. Don't know about shock. |
| 05:17.26 | SerajewelKS | Azar: is explorer in it? |
| 05:17.36 | Azar | SerajewelKS: http://www.rha.com/ui_hall_of_shame.htm |
| 05:17.37 | zeballin3 | Looks like they fixed the memory leak in the prev. FF version. |
| 05:17.39 | xoz | there is really no cure to code bloat |
| 05:17.40 | Azar | what explorer? |
| 05:17.50 | SerajewelKS | Azar: xp explorer |
| 05:17.53 | ke6isf | Azar: Yeah, a fresh install of Windows XP. That's pretty shameful if you ask me. |
| 05:18.11 | Azar | well just look at the samples :) |
| 05:18.17 | SerajewelKS | Azar: the taskbar, basically |
| 05:18.19 | SimonRaven | ke6isf: what, to have win* installed? ;) |
| 05:18.29 | zeballin3 | Has anyone had a problem with the FreeSans font with kde 3.5? I get a font with a lot of space under it... makes things look double spaced. |
| 05:18.43 | ke6isf | SimonRaven: That too, but referring to Azar's UI hall of shame there. |
| 05:18.59 | Azar | SerajewelKS: I tweak all my UI config in XP, the default is horrible |
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| 05:19.39 | SimonRaven | and to think some people *want* winxp themes in linux ... *shudder* |
| 05:19.46 | ericw | hello -- nobody is responding in #cyrus, so I'll try here :-) |
| 05:19.54 | ericw | anyone intimately familiar with cyrus that could give me a hand? |
| 05:19.57 | Azar | hehe "The User Is NOT a Suspect" http://www.rha.com/BeatTheUserAgain.jpg |
| 05:20.01 | akant | hello all I am curious as to the differences in "System V" layout and "BSD" can thoughts? |
| 05:20.05 | SimonRaven | too much ;) |
| 05:20.19 | Rekiem | Excuseme can someone help me out finding the "place" on the kernel configuration to turn on the Realtek ALC250 module... Thanks! |
| 05:20.41 | Azar | akant none of those in #debian I guess? |
| 05:20.48 | anonomouse | liable: that gave lots of hardware info unfortunatly nothing about my monitor |
| 05:21.14 | Azar | Rekiem: I usually go and use modconf command and pick it from there.. |
| 05:21.30 | SimonRaven | akant: sysv or bsd what? |
| 05:21.36 | Rekiem | Ok let me check Azar and thanks for asnwering |
| 05:21.39 | anonomouse | anyone know how i can figure out my monitors exact sync range without manf documentation of course... its a 15.4 wxga tft screen |
| 05:21.40 | akant | azar I mean in tearms of formatting for startup scripts in debian... is system v style correct? |
| 05:21.58 | akant | I am told other distros are different? |
| 05:22.10 | Azar | akant, ah wow, that is too much for me sorry.. |
| 05:22.13 | SimonRaven | sysv-rc and file-rc. file-rc is bsd-ish, and the other should be obvious ;) |
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| 05:22.47 | SimonRaven | anonomouse: no. go find it |
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| 05:23.20 | ke6isf | order_bot: ham and cheese on rye, please? =^_^= |
| 05:23.31 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: ive tried... googled beyong my sanity |
| 05:23.38 | anonomouse | err beyond |
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| 05:24.12 | SimonRaven | anonomouse: manufacturer's site doesn't tell? |
| 05:24.18 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: no not at all |
| 05:24.19 | akant | where are these located? |
| 05:24.23 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: this is for an acer laptop |
| 05:24.27 | akant | etc? |
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| 05:25.03 | Rekiem | Azar, well I used it but I dont have the kernel address for that just have /kernel/drivers/net and /kernel/net |
| 05:25.05 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: ive looked all over there site.. googled for every possible combo of wording to turn something up |
| 05:25.07 | SimonRaven | akant: dpkg -L; (i'd tell you packages.debian.org but it's down right now). yes, of course in /etc |
| 05:25.13 | Rekiem | What can I do? |
| 05:25.24 | SimonRaven | twiddle your thumbs? |
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| 05:26.01 | SimonRaven | anonomouse: looked under 'support' or looked for spec/specification? |
| 05:26.18 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: nope they have a detailed spec sheet and it doesnt list any of that info |
| 05:26.20 | Rekiem | And that's I guess because I compile the kernel. So I need to re compile it, but I dont know where is the audio section to add those modules |
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| 05:26.38 | SimonRaven | google or similar search engines don't work very well if you type in a sentence ... FYI |
| 05:26.54 | SimonRaven | anonomouse: not that detailed then, is it |
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| 05:27.12 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: obviously not or i wouldnt be asking for adive ;) |
| 05:27.30 | SimonRaven | anonomouse: what you can base it off of is the screen size, then tell dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 | xorg it's a lcd |
| 05:28.00 | SimonRaven | say, 15", then go from there. you might need to use *gasp* modelines |
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| 05:28.14 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: i have it working ok... its just i notice small slitches now and then.. |
| 05:28.15 | Azar | Rekiem: modconf gives you lists with sub-lists for hardware drivers. you usually go and select drivers you need from there. I usually use google to find out which exact driver I could select from the list if I do not find the name directly there |
| 05:28.28 | SimonRaven | anonomouse: translation? |
| 05:28.35 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: i know hot to configure it... im just looking for the exact specs or some way to find them |
| 05:28.43 | Rekiem | Yes but I only have those two options to select the drivers... :S |
| 05:28.57 | SimonRaven | anonomouse: could very well be the h/w, or some cabling too |
| 05:29.12 | Azar | Rekiem: two options? what do you mean? |
| 05:29.17 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: glitches i dont know how else to explain it... liek mabey when switching desktops or scrolling down a page ill notice small line dart across a small portion of the screen |
| 05:29.21 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: its a laptop |
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| 05:29.28 | Rekiem | Yes, let me show you what I see with modconf |
| 05:29.55 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: its not the hardware.. i have this thing dual booted... i know i just have the sync ranges off by a tad |
| 05:30.01 | SimonRaven | yes, i know it's a laptop, doesn't mean they're immune to damage, parts shifting, etc. |
| 05:30.56 | Azar | Rekiem: you mean you have only two drivers that might work for that hardware? |
| 05:30.57 | Rekiem | Noup. |
| 05:30.57 | SimonRaven | so tweak them a bit |
| 05:30.57 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: i have... i want the exact values... i know such info exsists im jus trying to figure out how to get it |
| 05:30.57 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: because obviosuly the documentatio isnt avaiable or not easily found |
| 05:30.57 | [jimb0] | so im doing a base debian install, and its not detecting my eth0 |
| 05:31.11 | Red_Cloud | I need a firewall for my OS which is Debian GNU-Linux sarge 3.1 |
| 05:31.13 | [jimb0] | is there something i can use in place of ifconfig or dhclient to configure my network interface? |
| 05:31.20 | SimonRaven | i suppose it does edid or such, you could try edid-detect to fetch that data |
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| 05:31.24 | Red_Cloud | Any suggestions on a firewall? |
| 05:31.33 | ke6isf | !firewall |
| 05:31.34 | dpkg | it has been said that firewall is a boundry (usually a computer or network apliance) between your private network and the public internet. see gibraltar, or a firewall can't protect the computer it's running on |
| 05:31.38 | SimonRaven | iptables. |
| 05:31.43 | anonomouse | SimonRaven: edid-detect? |
| 05:31.55 | Azar | Rekiem what linux distribution are you running? |
| 05:31.55 | SimonRaven | !firewall =~ s/boundry/boundary/ |
| 05:31.55 | dpkg | OK, SimonRaven |
| 05:32.14 | SimonRaven | apt-get install |
| 05:32.18 | xoz | anonomouse: try Xorg -configure ... see if it can detect your hardware |
| 05:32.25 | anonomouse | xoz: it doesnt |
| 05:33.08 | anonomouse | xoz: its a 15.4 wxga scren thats runs at 1280x800 |
| 05:33.26 | xoz | anonomouse: usually, lcd are more tolerant about specs... just dpkg-reconfigure ... and get default specs for your lcd |
| 05:33.28 | SimonRaven | eh, weird sizes ... |
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| 05:34.09 | anonomouse | xoz: there are no defaults... for this.. i had to manually enter them |
| 05:34.41 | SimonRaven | *sigh*, now i gotta figure out yet another fucking patch |
| 05:34.50 | xoz | well, google for that sizes and see if others have your values |
| 05:35.03 | anonomouse | xoz: ive googled beyond insanity |
| 05:35.05 | CasaNova_ | Strange that I never tried this before - any way to clear the whole arp cache? (like clearing /proc/net/arp or something?) arp -d ,ipaddy> is tedious and doesn't seem to be relieable... |
| 05:35.22 | SerajewelKS | SimonRaven: it's 16:10 |
| 05:35.41 | SerajewelKS | SimonRaven: if you were referring to the 1280x800 monitor |
| 05:35.56 | anonomouse | wonder if there are any windows apps that would tell me this info since i have this thing dual booted |
| 05:36.00 | jimb0 | casanova: arp -d * |
| 05:36.18 | jimb0 | deletes all entries |
| 05:36.34 | Azar | SerajewelKS: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/20-megahertz-xp.png |
| 05:36.40 | Azar | :) |
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| 05:36.48 | jimb0 | can someone tell me how to configure my eth0 in a base debian install without ifconfig or dhclient? |
| 05:36.55 | CasaNova_ | jimb0; I didn't think it took wild cards but I'll give it a whirl - anywhoo what about clearing the /proc is taht possible to wipe out the data in /proc/net/arp (or any proc info for that matter?) |
| 05:36.59 | jimb0 | i dont know what commands i have at my disposal |
| 05:37.01 | SerajewelKS | Azar: O_O |
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| 05:37.08 | xoz | anonomouse: 1280x800 linux seems to have good hits in google |
| 05:37.11 | jimb0 | sorry casa, that was for windows :) |
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| 05:37.19 | SerajewelKS | Azar: that had better be photoshopped (or an XP bug) |
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| 05:37.38 | Azar | SerajewelKS: want to read about it? |
| 05:37.46 | SerajewelKS | Azar: HELL no |
| 05:37.52 | xoz | anonomouse: have you tried autodetection of knoppix to check if it can detect your display? |
| 05:37.53 | Azar | :) |
| 05:37.57 | SerajewelKS | Azar: just thinking about it makes my head hurt |
| 05:38.04 | anonomouse | xoz: heh yep... no luck |
| 05:38.08 | ke6isf | Azar: That's gotta be a display bug. I don't think they ever made a Pentium slower than 66 MHz. |
| 05:38.11 | SerajewelKS | anapivirtua: read-edid | parse-edid |
| 05:38.17 | anonomouse | xoz: it wants to do 1024.768 |
| 05:38.29 | SerajewelKS | a/anapivirtua/anonomouse/ |
| 05:38.33 | Azar | ke6isf: unfortunately not, is a benchmark test |
| 05:38.39 | Azar | and I guess it did worked |
| 05:39.03 | ke6isf | Azar: But a 20 MHz pentium? Those didn't exist! |
| 05:39.19 | Azar | http://winhistory.de/more/386/sys63.jpg |
| 05:39.20 | SerajewelKS | ke6isf: maybe they made one recently =) |
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| 05:39.22 | xoz | anonomouse: try this: Modeline "1280x800" 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 814 828 |
| 05:39.28 | ke6isf | SerajewelKS: Heh |
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| 05:40.01 | xoz | anonomouse: ooops, 800 801 804 828... correct the seq at the tail. |
| 05:40.28 | anonomouse | xoz: yea im looking at that exact page |
| 05:40.37 | xoz | anonomouse: heh |
| 05:40.43 | Azar | it is for real with pictures and hardware pics as well |
| 05:40.48 | anonomouse | xoz: im looking for my hor and vert sync values though |
| 05:41.03 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: have you tried checking the edid like i suggested? |
| 05:41.22 | anonomouse | SerajewelKS: no i asked what it was... you never responded |
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| 05:41.40 | xoz | anonomouse: you can play with default values i guess |
| 05:41.41 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: no you didn't |
| 05:41.46 | SimonRaven | anonomouse: "edid-detect?" is not asking what it is |
| 05:42.01 | hemal | i just installed debian etch/testing and then got KDM installed and running thru synaptics. KDM starts gnome but I want to run kde. How do I get it to do that? |
| 05:42.04 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: and i never mentioned edid-detect |
| 05:42.05 | anonomouse | ok sorry that does justify a question |
| 05:42.12 | SimonRaven | !listkeys edid |
| 05:42.14 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'edid' by key (2): edid ;; read-edid. |
| 05:42.20 | SimonRaven | !edid |
| 05:42.21 | dpkg | i heard edid is Extended Display Identification Data. you can modify the edid mode if you have problem with the res in X windows, because some monitors are known to lie about their capabilities, sometimes your screen can't use a higher resulution than e.g. 1024x768 in X windows, but there's a solution to this, by using 'Option' "IgnoreEDID" "1" in the section "Screen" in the XF86Config-4 file, note - this wont make your monitor able to use higher ... |
| 05:42.26 | SimonRaven | !read-edid |
| 05:42.26 | dpkg | i heard read-edid is hardware information-gathering tool for VESA PnP monitors |
| 05:42.30 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: apt-get install read-edid; read-edid | parse-edid |
| 05:42.39 | multi_io | is anyone playing TORCS here? |
| 05:42.46 | SimonRaven | i suggested it like 0.5 hour ago |
| 05:42.48 | SerajewelKS | multi_io: i have played it before |
| 05:43.01 | SimonRaven | sorry, 10 min ago |
| 05:43.37 | multi_io | SerajewelKS: can you get it to fullscreen mode? |
| 05:43.44 | SerajewelKS | multi_io: yes |
| 05:44.48 | anonomouse | read-edid command not found |
| 05:44.53 | anonomouse | hmm its installed |
| 05:45.00 | hemal | This is perhaps more of a KDM question then debian, I am asking here because I only just installed debian and don't know where eIse to ask. just installed debian etch/testing and then got KDM installed and running thru synaptics. KDM starts gnome but I want to run kde. How do I get it to do that? |
| 05:45.01 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: are you running it as root? |
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| 05:45.05 | anonomouse | SerajewelKS: yep |
| 05:45.24 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: uhm yeah that's weird |
| 05:45.32 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: check for typos? |
| 05:45.36 | anonomouse | heh yea |
| 05:45.43 | anonomouse | i typed read and hit tab nothign came up |
| 05:45.43 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: whoops.. get-edid | parse-edid |
| 05:45.48 | multi_io | SerajewelKS: hm, here "fullscreen" just switches to a borderless window, with the mouse pointer trapped in it... |
| 05:45.55 | anonomouse | there we go |
| 05:46.00 | SerajewelKS | multi_io: me too, but it changes my resolution too |
| 05:46.15 | SerajewelKS | multi_io: you have a modeline in your X config for a lower resolution? |
| 05:46.28 | xoz | hemal: do you have .xsession configured? |
| 05:46.35 | multi_io | oh umm... |
| 05:46.40 | anonomouse | SerajewelKS: ok what info am i looking for in this? |
| 05:47.00 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: a modeline |
| 05:47.06 | anonomouse | SerajewelKS: nada |
| 05:47.07 | hemal | xoz: i haven't done anything explicitly to configure it. how do i do that? |
| 05:47.14 | multi_io | I think so |
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| 05:47.17 | liable | hemal: you should be able to choose kde in the 'session' menu |
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| 05:47.30 | xoz | anonomouse: Horz: 31.5 - 64.3, Vert: Vert: 40 - 150 |
| 05:47.42 | anonomouse | xoz: link me to where you got that info |
| 05:48.06 | hemal | liable: from what i remembered I thought on startup KDM has the toolbar that lets you select gnome/kde but my login window does not have that |
| 05:48.10 | anonomouse | xoz: because i found a similar one on linux laptops and it was wrong |
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| 05:48.26 | multi_io | well, otehr apps like ppracer or armagetron work in fullscreen mode w/ reduced resolution |
| 05:48.50 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: parse-edid gives me a 'Section "Monitor"' that i could just paste into my xorg.conf |
| 05:48.52 | Red_Cloud | I need a firewall for my OS which is Debian GNU-Linux sarge 3.1 Will welcome suggestions, discussion, & instruction. |
| 05:48.53 | multi_io | even with 800x600 which is not configured in xorg.conf... |
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| 05:49.04 | SerajewelKS | Red_Cloud: iptables |
| 05:49.06 | xoz_ | anonomouse: http://www.linux-laptop.net/hosted/fs215e-slackware.html |
| 05:49.12 | anonomouse | SerajewelKS: yea i got no such info |
| 05:49.19 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: weird.. is this an LCD? |
| 05:49.26 | anonomouse | xoz_: yea thats what im currently using =/ |
| 05:49.29 | xoz | hemal: you can place you wm in .xsession |
| 05:49.33 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: and is it plugged in to VGA, or DVI? |
| 05:49.45 | anonomouse | SerajewelKS: yes |
| 05:49.51 | anonomouse | SerajewelKS: this is a 15.4 wxga laptop screen |
| 05:49.52 | hemal | xoz: i do not have a ~/.xsession |
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| 05:50.08 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: then it should be internally DVI, meaning that there is no hsync/vsync |
| 05:50.28 | xoz | hemal: create one and just place the location of your wm, like /usr/bin/openbox |
| 05:50.58 | xoz | hemal: try echo "<your wm>" > .xsession |
| 05:50.59 | hemal | xoz: should I copy /etc/X11/Xsession to ~ ? |
| 05:51.04 | xoz | hemal: no |
| 05:51.07 | anonomouse | SerajewelKS: huh? so what if i dont set those values? |
| 05:51.10 | hemal | xoz: thanks |
| 05:51.21 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: exactly. don't set them, and it should work fine. |
| 05:51.24 | hemal | xoz: what is the wm for KDE? |
| 05:51.28 | anonomouse | SerajewelKS: hmm let me try that |
| 05:51.43 | xoz | hemal: try locate xsession... it might give you links which you can cp and modify |
| 05:51.47 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: i have dual-head, DVI and CRT. i need no sync ranges for either; the DVI one doesn't need them, and the X server gets the ones for the CRT from edid. |
| 05:52.39 | xoz | hemal: startkde |
| 05:53.07 | anonomouse | SerajewelKS: lol i think you fixed it |
| 05:53.14 | hemal | xoz: so i just "echo startkde > ~/.xsession" ? |
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| 05:53.27 | xoz | hemal: exec startkde& |
| 05:53.31 | anonomouse | SerajewelKS: i just comented out the horz and vert sync... think all is well now |
| 05:53.33 | hemal | xoz: there is a /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop |
| 05:53.39 | SerajewelKS | anonomouse: =) |
| 05:53.43 | anonomouse | gonna try and recreate the glitches |
| 05:54.11 | xoz | hemal: xsession .... that's a different file |
| 05:54.38 | SimonRaven | doh! |
| 05:54.47 | SimonRaven | } are important ;) |
| 05:54.54 | hemal | xoz: ok, i mentioned it because locate xsession reported it |
| 05:55.01 | xoz | hemal: you can google for some examples... usually, you just run xclients you want preloaded, ssh-agent, and then your window manager |
| 05:55.29 | xoz | hemal: xfce creates an example xsession |
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| 05:55.51 | liable | hemal: have a look through kdm's config for menu options. (systemmenu=false?) |
| 05:56.04 | hemal | xoz: hmmm...KDM is running ssh-agent but i don't know where/how it decided to run gnome |
| 05:56.13 | hemal | liable: where is kdm's config? |
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| 05:56.45 | liable | hemal: probably /etc/kdm/kdm.conf |
| 05:57.04 | xoz_ | hemal: if you run kdm, it gives you choice. xdm on the other hand expects you to place your choice in .xsession |
| 05:57.28 | SimonRaven | "debian session" is "~/.xession" |
| 05:57.31 | SerajewelKS | http://pastebin.ca/37957 -- wtf is up with this? |
| 05:57.33 | xoz | hemal: check xfree86-common: usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/examples/xsession.gz |
| 05:57.51 | vargux | ....hej everyone... |
| 05:57.54 | SimonRaven | fucking rpath!! |
| 05:57.55 | SerajewelKS | Xorg runs fine... for some reason Xvnc has started crapping out |
| 05:58.16 | vargux | .... anyone here ....is using superkaramba ???? |
| 05:58.26 | Guerin | !anyone use superkaramba? |
| 05:58.27 | dpkg | No, no one uses superkaramba, not even the people who use it. |
| 05:58.35 | SimonRaven | !ep |
| 05:58.35 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:58.38 | SerajewelKS | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias does contain an entry for 'fixed' |
| 05:58.42 | xoz | hemal: oh, it's gone in testing but apt-file says it's there |
| 05:58.46 | liable | hemal: also try man kdm (if it has one) |
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| 05:59.24 | vargux | or.... gdesklets maybe |
| 05:59.33 | hemal | xoz: i don't have /usr/share/doc/xfree86*...i don't know if i am running xfree86 or Xorg |
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| 05:59.41 | vargux | anyone use it ? |
| 05:59.49 | hemal | liable: man kdm says not found |
| 06:00.05 | xoz | hemal: anyway, if you run kdm or gdm, you just select your wm from the choices. |
| 06:00.23 | hemal | liable: there is /etc/kde3/kdm/kdm.options but it does not mention menu |
| 06:00.39 | hemal | xoz: i don't get choices on the login window |
| 06:00.54 | comradek | I just added a CD burner, what do I need to do to Debian to get it to burn ISOs? |
| 06:01.10 | Newck | anyone ever set up a bt848 in linux? (successfully?) |
| 06:01.11 | SerajewelKS | does Xvnc use a different X config file than Xorg? |
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| 06:01.21 | CasaNova_ | Everytime I run g++ I have to add -I/usr/include/<my custom headers> How do I add the headers to the -includes by default ? |
| 06:01.32 | liable | hemal: bugger. /usr/share/doc/kdm? (try #debian-kde too) |
| 06:01.42 | CasaNova_ | I mean when I run g++ on my code using the headers :-) |
| 06:02.08 | CasaNova_ | I know this is not g++ but I'm on a debian testing machine ;-) |
| 06:02.18 | CasaNova_ | and y'all are smart! |
| 06:02.28 | CasaNova_ | (and did I mention handsome as well!) |
| 06:02.34 | xoz | hemal: then just try running xdm with .xsession containing your wm |
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| 06:03.21 | hemal | liable: there is /usr/share/doc/kdm/README.Debian but it keeps talking about xdm |
| 06:03.35 | hemal | the first line says "Below this is direct from the xdm package README" |
| 06:03.50 | xoz | hemal: i forgot but supposedly, kdm calls another program to get the lists of wm installed and show it in the startup. you cannot see this lists in the kdm dir because it is dynamically called when it runs |
| 06:04.06 | Azar | SerajewelKS: wae to spik english : http://www.munee.info/ |
| 06:04.11 | CasaNova_ | comradek: find religion - no seriously great burning faqs - start with cdrecord and k3b! |
| 06:04.13 | Azar | I assume mune is money |
| 06:04.32 | hemal | xoz: so what should i do? |
| 06:04.54 | SerajewelKS | Azar: what? |
| 06:05.03 | jetscreamer | so apparently the ddrescue in sources is the ddrescue that is compatible with dd_rhelp |
| 06:05.33 | CasaNova_ | Azar: Now I know why my spam filters won't stop this crap! :-) |
| 06:05.35 | multi_io | interesting (firefox/x11 mem consumption): http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2005-11.html#moz-images |
| 06:05.44 | Azar | :) |
| 06:05.50 | xoz | hemal: /etc/init.d/xdm start, login.... assuming you have a correct .xsession |
| 06:06.32 | comradek | Casa- The problem isn't so much as burning CDs, it's making Linux recognize my burner :) |
| 06:06.34 | CasaNova_ | t |
| 06:06.55 | CasaNova_ | comradek: Oh what kind of burner (connection type?) |
| 06:07.02 | comradek | IDE |
| 06:07.19 | comradek | it's a slave to the 2nd controller. So I assume its going to be /dev/hdd |
| 06:07.37 | CasaNova_ | comradek : When you restarted was it in dmesg? |
| 06:07.47 | comradek | not sure =/ |
| 06:07.49 | Azar | usually goes by the /dev/hdc |
| 06:07.52 | comradek | ah |
| 06:08.20 | hemal | xoz: i created .xsession (it now contains one line: exec startkde &). /etc/init.d/xdm does not exist. if it run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start" it says kdm already running |
| 06:08.41 | Azar | I have no idea why /dev/hdc was given the /dev/cdrom symlink, maybe for easy reference? |
| 06:08.57 | comradek | hm, I should've said "restarted? should I have turned the computer off before I installed it?". Would've made a great bash.org quote. |
| 06:09.11 | CasaNova_ | comradek : I was waiting for it :-) |
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| 06:10.58 | croddy | nagios has sent me 53 messages this evening |
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| 06:11.23 | croddy | i'm starting to wonder if i should go in to work and find out who is there and what they're doing |
| 06:11.47 | comradek | on a more serious note, how can I test to see if the drive is active in Linux? |
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| 06:12.34 | Miesco | Does anyone use reminder or wyrd? |
| 06:12.37 | Miesco | remind* |
| 06:12.44 | SerajewelKS | !anyone use reminder |
| 06:12.44 | dpkg | No, no one uses reminder, not even the people who use it. |
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| 06:13.03 | Miesco | SerajewelKS: I ment remind |
| 06:13.10 | Miesco | Not reminder |
| 06:13.14 | SerajewelKS | Miesco: you missed the point |
| 06:13.31 | Miesco | Well of course no one uses reminder, cause there is nothing called that, its remind |
| 06:13.37 | SerajewelKS | !poll |
| 06:13.37 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 06:13.40 | SerajewelKS | Miesco: ^^^^ |
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| 06:13.48 | CasaNova_ | comradek : dmesg | less check output to see if drive was detected. Does it have any activity - will it eject etc... |
| 06:13.53 | croddy | ~fix Miesco |
| 06:13.59 | apt | ACTION takes Miesco to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 06:14.21 | Miesco | Well how come it doesn't show my reminders in wyrd... |
| 06:15.38 | comradek | hdd. CD-W512EB. It's saying its a CD/DVD-ROM though, not sure if thats a standard output or what |
| 06:16.14 | Miesco | SerajewelKS: See I got more responds then when I asked my way |
| 06:16.18 | Azar | SerajewelKS: speaking of school (you were talking earlier in with ke6isf) when you have time read this article: http://www.ecphorizer.com/Articles1/meiheminceklasru.html |
| 06:16.20 | comradek | but I'm unable to use the eject command on it |
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| 06:16.46 | SerajewelKS | Miesco: all of them irrelevant |
| 06:16.49 | CasaNova_ | comradek - Already ahve a cdrom? then try eject cdrom 0 or cdrom1 etc |
| 06:16.54 | comradek | yeah |
| 06:16.56 | comradek | hdc works fine |
| 06:18.25 | buu | Ok. I've got a hard drive that worked a day or so ago, but now when I plug it in to my mobo on either ide channel, the bios gets to "detecting ide devices" and hangs. It can detect other hard drives and devices fine. |
| 06:18.36 | buu | To my knowledge the drive hasn't been misstreated in any way. |
| 06:18.43 | SerajewelKS | buu: it's fried |
| 06:19.12 | buu | SerajewelKS: =[ |
| 06:19.13 | comradek | could be a jumper problem |
| 06:19.14 | Azar | buu is your motherboard "sata-ready" ? |
| 06:19.15 | buu | SerajewelKS: Don't tell me that. |
| 06:19.27 | buu | Azar: No sata ports on the mobo, the hard drive is ide |
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| 06:19.57 | Azar | buu, ah I see check the BIOS maybe some settings there need adjusted? |
| 06:20.18 | buu | Like.. what? |
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| 06:21.26 | comradek | so, any ideas CasaNova? |
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| 06:22.12 | CasaNova_ | oh sorry - got distracted by bash.org |
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| 06:22.35 | buu | SerajewelKS: What the hell could have happened to it |
| 06:22.45 | CasaNova_ | If the drive was detected during bootup as hdd put in a data cd/dvd and mount /dev/hdd etc etc |
| 06:22.54 | ice_1963 | hello |
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| 06:23.43 | SerajewelKS | buu: static shock? i dunno. |
| 06:24.11 | xoz | buu: not unusual for hd to have defects... and yes, static electricity is one culprit. |
| 06:24.37 | xoz | buu: did you have proper grounding when you handled it? |
| 06:24.48 | buu | I doubt it |
| 06:25.10 | comradek | socks on carpet? |
| 06:25.20 | xoz | precision electronics are sensitive to millivolts |
| 06:25.40 | SerajewelKS | xoz: my "proper grounding" usually invokves taking off my socks and keeping one hand on the case =) |
| 06:25.45 | SerajewelKS | involves* |
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| 06:26.11 | buu | heh |
| 06:26.18 | buu | comradek: I suppose. |
| 06:26.27 | buu | You'd think I would have noticed it |
| 06:26.29 | SerajewelKS | xoz: or putting on shoes |
| 06:26.44 | SerajewelKS | buu: not all static goes 'zap' and hurts your finger |
| 06:26.52 | xoz | SerajewelKS: are we still talking about hd or sex :) |
| 06:26.58 | CasaNova_ | soem goes brrrrr and makes that part feel good! |
| 06:27.04 | buu | SerajewelKS: Guess not. |
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| 06:27.23 | buu | SerajewelKS: Any easy way to get data off it? |
| 06:27.25 | SerajewelKS | xoz: good question |
| 06:27.37 | SerajewelKS | buu: if it's a mechanical error you can try freezing |
| 06:27.45 | buu | Hrm |
| 06:27.46 | SerajewelKS | buu: otherwise take it to a data recovery specialist |
| 06:27.58 | buu | Heh, I can't say I care *that* much |
| 06:28.01 | SerajewelKS | buu: freezing saved my brother's maxtor |
| 06:28.05 | buu | I shall try it. |
| 06:28.13 | SerajewelKS | buu: but if it was static, freezing won't help |
| 06:29.03 | xoz | buu: or you can try someone's computer... or cable... who knows, it's the computer that has problems, not your disk. which do you prefer? |
| 06:29.17 | buu | No idea |
| 06:29.24 | buu | Both equally annoying |
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| 06:30.09 | Supaplex | usb external enclosures are da bom |
| 06:30.13 | Supaplex | and stuff |
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| 06:30.40 | comradek | Supaplex- I just bought one of those tonight :D |
| 06:30.40 | devsforev | Anyone ever used knockd for setting up port knocking before? |
| 06:30.49 | xoz | yep, usb external hd is much more flex |
| 06:31.02 | comradek | NexStar 2.5" enclosure |
| 06:31.10 | xoz | how much? |
| 06:31.11 | SerajewelKS | xoz: what's the price range? |
| 06:31.20 | comradek | $15 |
| 06:31.26 | SerajewelKS | mm not bad |
| 06:31.33 | comradek | bought it at a retail store |
| 06:31.40 | comradek | Didn't feel like ordering off of newegg |
| 06:31.45 | omry | hi, how do I know the what to mount to use a usb disk-on-key one 2.6.12 (with udev) ? |
| 06:32.05 | Supaplex | I own atleast 3 of the 2.5" enclosures, and 2 3.5". I'm researching a few 5.25" ones for the dvdrw and a spare cdrw |
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| 06:32.18 | xoz | SerajewelKS: 250 gig about $100 |
| 06:32.24 | mischko | How do I tell my Sarge install to get the latest security patches for everything? |
| 06:32.35 | Supaplex | omry: it uses usb-storage and shows logs in dmesg about what device it's using. |
| 06:32.45 | SerajewelKS | mischko: a fresh netinstall should get security updates |
| 06:32.47 | xoz | SerajewelKS: including the disk :) |
| 06:32.56 | SerajewelKS | xoz: damn,,, |
| 06:33.15 | grew | !info mplayer |
| 06:33.19 | mischko | SerajewelKS, isn't there an apt-get command to get the security.debian.org packages? |
| 06:33.30 | grew | is there a unstable repository for mplayer? |
| 06:33.35 | grew | *an |
| 06:33.36 | Supaplex | I see the 300gb go on rebate for about the same price everyso often |
| 06:33.54 | SerajewelKS | moshii: no, you put it in sources.list |
| 06:33.59 | SerajewelKS | !sarge security |
| 06:34.03 | SerajewelKS | bah |
| 06:34.39 | mischko | SerajewelKS, I have it in sources.list. How do I make it fetch the security patches (or tell me what it would fetch)? |
| 06:34.39 | omry | Supaplex, I got this in dmesg when I plug it in : usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4 |
| 06:34.39 | SerajewelKS | mischko: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 06:34.41 | SerajewelKS | mischko: as usual |
| 06:35.10 | mischko | SerajewelKS, thanks. |
| 06:35.35 | Supaplex | omry: modprobe usb-storage, check dmesg again |
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| 06:36.08 | CasaNova_ | and lsusb is easy way to see device as well... |
| 06:36.24 | omry | Supaplex, thanks, not it appeared :) |
| 06:36.38 | Supaplex | omry: maybe it's not supported |
| 06:36.54 | omry | Supaplex, no, I think its fine now. it appeared. |
| 06:36.59 | Red_Cloud | SerajewelKS, should I install the iptables version that is included with the debian package or install the latest version. I do not know what the latest stable version would be of iptables. http://ftp.netfilter.org/pub/iptables/ gives access to all of the latest, but the latest may be beta? |
| 06:37.09 | Supaplex | omry: ahh, a little settle time. |
| 06:38.26 | jetscreamer | in debian, use debian |
| 06:38.39 | jetscreamer | unless otherwise instructed |
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| 06:39.07 | jetscreamer | or if you know better of course |
| 06:39.11 | omry | Supaplex, hmm, I get messages about sdc, but no /dev/sdc |
| 06:39.17 | Supaplex | perl -Mdebian -e 1 |
| 06:39.34 | SerajewelKS | Red_Cloud: iptables comes in most default installs of debian... |
| 06:40.00 | jimb0 | can someone tell me how to configure my eth0 in a base debian install without ifconfig or dhclient? |
| 06:40.11 | jimb0 | i'm trying to get a connection via dhcp |
| 06:40.13 | Supaplex | jimb0: man 5 interfaces |
| 06:40.17 | jimb0 | okay |
| 06:40.20 | Red_Cloud | jetscreamer, I have been told that before and I pondered it quite a bit. But I will do as suggested |
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| 06:40.39 | mischko | How do I uninstall all the GUI stuff from my Debian box? |
| 06:40.57 | valdyn | !remove x |
| 06:40.58 | dpkg | In sarge: apt-get --purge remove xfree86-common In sid/etch: apt-get --purge remove x11-common |
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| 06:41.11 | Supaplex | omry: you'll need to make the device nodes, unless you've got some fancy dev* filesystem |
| 06:41.25 | jetscreamer | mischko: me, i'd use dselect and use the _ key on many categories |
| 06:41.33 | Red_Cloud | mischko, use KPackage or Synaptic Package Manager |
| 06:41.38 | jetscreamer | you can select mass quantities |
| 06:41.50 | jetscreamer | but use whatever |
| 06:41.50 | mischko | I'm sshing into the box - no GUI available. |
| 06:41.55 | omry | Supaplex, how do I make the node? (why nodes, just sdc, no?) |
| 06:42.10 | mischko | I'd like to get a list of packages it would remove without it actually doing so. |
| 06:42.19 | jetscreamer | dselect is good for purging massquantities is all i know.. aptitude 'should' have the same functionality |
| 06:42.30 | valdyn | mischko: apt-get never does anything before you confirming with Y |
| 06:42.37 | mischko | valdyn, ok. |
| 06:42.37 | comradek | wha..? apparently I don't have unrar |
| 06:42.38 | mischko | Thanks all |
| 06:42.42 | jetscreamer | mischko: there are 'dry run' directives |
| 06:42.53 | jetscreamer | man whatever it is you decide to use |
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| 06:42.57 | mischko | k |
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| 06:44.00 | grew | ok im running a 2.6 kernel and have module-init-tools installed, but i can't modprobe -r any modules as it says it cant find them |
| 06:44.03 | mischko | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.07 | grew | do i need to do anything else? |
| 06:44.29 | grew | mischko: people use stupid image libraries sometimes |
| 06:44.30 | jetscreamer | grew as root? |
| 06:44.33 | valdyn | grew: modules that cannot be found by modprobe -r are not installed |
| 06:44.41 | grew | valdyn: they show up in lsmod |
| 06:44.44 | xoz | grew: lsmod first |
| 06:44.49 | jetscreamer | grew modconf may help |
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| 06:45.03 | valdyn | grew: like for example? |
| 06:45.04 | grew | jetscreamer: i dont have modconf |
| 06:45.06 | multi_io | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=168370 |
| 06:45.08 | grew | valdyn: hold |
| 06:45.10 | jetscreamer | install it if you want |
| 06:45.19 | jetscreamer | it used to be default |
| 06:45.28 | jetscreamer | 'deprecated' |
| 06:45.31 | jetscreamer | i guess |
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| 06:45.50 | Daveman | hahaha |
| 06:45.54 | xoz | grew: what module you want to remove? |
| 06:45.58 | Azar | grew that sounds strange, what Debian distro and what 2.6 kernel series are you using? |
| 06:46.01 | grew | xoz: from a pcmcia card |
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| 06:46.07 | grew | azar: unstable and 2.6.15 |
| 06:46.08 | comradek | Is unrar not installed with debian or something? Archive Manager refuses to open my rar file |
| 06:46.10 | xoz | grew: exact name |
| 06:46.17 | grew | xoz: snd_indigo |
| 06:46.18 | Azar | grew ah.. ok |
| 06:46.21 | jetscreamer | not unless you install it comradek |
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| 06:46.26 | grew | xoz: but ive tried every single module in the lsmod list |
| 06:46.26 | valdyn | xoz: lsmod | grep indigo |
| 06:46.27 | xoz | grew: try snd-indigo |
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| 06:46.39 | comradek | I couldn't find it on aptitude |
| 06:46.47 | jetscreamer | !info unrar |
| 06:46.49 | dpkg | unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.4-0.1 (sid), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 224 kB |
| 06:46.51 | SerajewelKS | comradek: it's nonfree |
| 06:46.57 | comradek | ahh |
| 06:46.59 | comradek | gotcha |
| 06:47.08 | xoz | grew: _ is - in module names |
| 06:47.09 | grew | i can show you guys in #flood, or paste 5 lines here |
| 06:47.13 | SerajewelKS | comradek: add a nonfree part to your 'deb' line |
| 06:47.14 | grew | xoz: same results |
| 06:47.20 | jetscreamer | grew: 5==kick |
| 06:47.30 | jetscreamer | <5==kick |
| 06:47.32 | comradek | deb line? |
| 06:47.36 | gpm | hi guys. i'm trying to set up tv out with a geforce4. i followed the instructions on the ubuntu wiki (basically add some twinview lines to the device section in xorg.conf) for nvidia card tvout setup, but the output is all black/white, no color. any clues why? |
| 06:47.38 | xoz | grew: just one output of lsmod |
| 06:47.40 | SerajewelKS | !nonfree |
| 06:47.40 | dpkg | well, non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html |
| 06:47.41 | grew | well in that case it would have to be #flood |
| 06:47.44 | SerajewelKS | comradek: ^^^ |
| 06:47.48 | jetscreamer | add contrib non-free after main, comradek |
| 06:47.49 | grew | snd_indigoio 17444 0 |
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| 06:47.56 | grew | FATAL: Module snd_indigo not found. |
| 06:47.57 | jetscreamer | main contrib non-free |
| 06:48.03 | grew | there are the two relevent lines |
| 06:48.05 | valdyn | grew: try reading the modules name again |
| 06:48.12 | grew | hahahah |
| 06:48.14 | grew | hold on |
| 06:48.19 | Azar | gpm this is not ubuntu, try #ubuntu |
| 06:48.20 | omry | Supaplex, how do I make the node? (why nodes, just sdc, no?) |
| 06:48.21 | CCITT | anyone here use Sarge/ppc on an oldworld mac? |
| 06:48.31 | grew | ok im a moron |
| 06:48.37 | grew | it was doing it even with yenta before |
| 06:48.41 | gpm | Azar: i'm not on ubuntu. thanks though. |
| 06:48.44 | grew | but it appears to be removing modules now |
| 06:49.17 | Azar | gpm then follow instructions in Debian wiki |
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| 06:49.42 | comradek | er.. after main? Newbie does not understand :( |
| 06:49.42 | grew | sorry about that guys |
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| 06:50.01 | comradek | I guess I'm asking what I need to edit. sources.list or something? |
| 06:50.13 | valdyn | !non-free |
| 06:50.13 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html |
| 06:51.10 | CCITT | so noone uses the ppc port much? |
| 06:51.25 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 06:51.54 | valdyn | !anyone use |
| 06:51.54 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 06:51.56 | CCITT | wondering if someone can emnlighten me with some quik tips for a OF 2.4 beige g3 v.2 |
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| 06:52.15 | CCITT | righto... |
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| 06:53.24 | valdyn | gpm: if your tvout's output is b/w then that is likely an issue with your monitor, not a driver thing |
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| 06:53.30 | valdyn | ops, poof |
| 06:53.58 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: or he's using PAL output |
| 06:54.07 | Azar | I guess he got upset at the fact I told him to go #ubuntu |
| 06:54.26 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: ah probably |
| 06:55.39 | SerajewelKS | speaking of PAL/NTSC, why would my capture card (or its driver) be having trouble with composite input? with NTSC i get the first frame sometimes, then tvtime gets really laggy. with PAL it updates regularly but obviously looks terrible since my SNES isn't a PAL device. |
| 06:55.51 | SerajewelKS | with TV (coax) input i have no issues |
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| 06:56.15 | SerajewelKS | aside from a little audio lag |
| 06:57.18 | SerajewelKS | card is a 'Terminator' somethingorother, Philips Semiconductors SAA7133 chipset |
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| 06:59.13 | SerajewelKS | holy hell i think last time i did 'echo fo > /etc/modules' and not >> =/ |
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| 06:59.34 | SerajewelKS | ah well, at least saa7134 is in there |
| 06:59.48 | SerajewelKS | damnit... |
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| 07:02.15 | SerajewelKS | where did /etc/modules.d go? |
| 07:02.59 | pureone | locate modules.d |
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| 07:03.32 | SerajewelKS | pureone: ... |
| 07:04.00 | pureone | ... |
| 07:04.31 | SerajewelKS | pureone: i hope you were being sarcastic |
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| 07:06.41 | AngelusMori | what does my ssh mean by "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"? |
| 07:06.56 | Rekiem | Hey excuse me. How can I install or make to my Debian to recognize my usb mouse? |
| 07:07.20 | ejofee | how do i access and modify the ztext format? |
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| 07:09.45 | xoz | Rekiem: try modprobe psmouse or modprobe usbmouse |
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| 07:09.55 | Rekiem | ok let me check |
| 07:09.56 | htedrom | hey all...i'm trying to build a package from source with apt |
| 07:10.07 | htedrom | but it's not downloading the right version |
| 07:10.17 | htedrom | it's downloading/compiling an older one |
| 07:10.34 | Rekiem | It says that any of those modules are present |
| 07:10.42 | Rekiem | I mean, not found. |
| 07:10.50 | Rekiem | Should I checlk configuration? |
| 07:11.01 | rss | Which is the font used for debian logo? (answer to this was in linuks.mine.nu... which doesn't have that now) |
| 07:11.07 | xoz | Rekiem: lsmod | grep psmouse |
| 07:11.13 | htedrom | anyone? |
| 07:11.23 | Rekiem | ok |
| 07:11.33 | rss | tarzeau, which is that font? |
| 07:11.41 | Rekiem | nothing happened... |
| 07:11.42 | Rekiem | :S |
| 07:11.48 | DarkPurpose | how do i configure a scroll wheel mouse? |
| 07:11.55 | xoz | Rekiem: kernel version? |
| 07:12.05 | xoz | Rekiem: are you using debian kernel? |
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| 07:12.22 | xoz | DarkPurpose: imwheel? |
| 07:12.27 | Rekiem | Uhmmm my kernel is the 2.6.15.1 |
| 07:12.29 | croddy | !tell DarkPurpose about mouse wheel |
| 07:12.32 | Rekiem | And I just compiled it. |
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| 07:12.45 | Rekiem | LEt me check once again the configuration. |
| 07:13.00 | DarkPurpose | thanks |
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| 07:13.22 | xoz | Rekiem: good luck. since you compiled your own kernel, you should know what module you need. |
| 07:14.08 | Rekiem | Hehehehe well that's the bad thing in all this. Because i needed that, for my network card. At the end... it worked, but now I have a lot of things lost heheheh |
| 07:14.16 | Rekiem | But thanks anyway! You are so kind. |
| 07:14.19 | bb2back | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:14.55 | ejofee | does anybody have any idea what the .bzs, .bzv, and .bzz, file extensions refer to (they seem closely related to each other)? |
| 07:15.04 | rss | oh it is Poppl Laudatio Condensed |
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| 07:16.06 | ejofee | they also might be related to postgresql and high text compression. |
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| 07:17.02 | ejofee | rss: are yoiu talking to me? |
| 07:17.11 | ejofee | s/yoiu/you/ |
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| 07:19.04 | dingus9 | hey whats the fastest and most relaible way to configure xorg.conf so I can run kde. Im on a debian system with the kde packages installed |
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| 07:19.48 | multi_io | hm, it appears I can cut down Firefox's mem consumption to a fith(!) or so by setting browser.cache.memory.enable to false in about:config |
| 07:20.13 | croddy | at what cost, multi_io? at what cost, indeed... |
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| 07:21.16 | dondelelcaro | in an ideal world the memory cache would be pointless, as the OS should know what to cache, and cache it off disk... |
| 07:21.27 | multi_io | croddy: back/forward buttons appear to be still snappy |
| 07:21.32 | dondelelcaro | of course, that means time spent writing it to disk |
| 07:22.22 | multi_io | I have a 1 MBit downstream connection. But it doesn't appear to send a new request on each back button press |
| 07:23.00 | multi_io | uhh, 2MBit rather. |
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| 07:31.17 | multi_io | I just checked with Ethereal -- it definitely doesn't send new requests when pressing back/forward |
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| 07:31.52 | multi_io | it does send new requests when loading a page that is already loaded in another tab or window |
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| 07:36.04 | raden | ok i went through that a bit but at the end in the changelog it says |
| 07:36.05 | raden | Added ip_conntrack_ftp and ip_nat_ftp modules to eliminate PASV error when emerging. |
| 07:36.12 | raden | where do i change that ? |
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| 07:43.27 | Paras | hi all: apt-move reads /var/cache/apt/archives by default... how to make read say folder /mydebs |
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| 07:48.16 | htedrom | hey guys |
| 07:48.24 | htedrom | how do i make a deb from cvs? |
| 07:48.35 | htedrom | without using apt-get --build |
| 07:48.45 | htedrom | apt keeps downloading the wrong version |
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| 07:49.00 | htedrom | i've downloaded the cvs....configured it... |
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| 07:49.05 | htedrom | now what? |
| 07:49.11 | ultravio1et16 | what's the most recent kernel version in testing? |
| 07:49.14 | SerajewelKS | htedrom: because apt-get uses source packages, not tarballs |
| 07:49.16 | ultravio1et16 | for say, a 686 |
| 07:49.25 | SerajewelKS | htedrom: are you prepared to invest 6+ hours in this? |
| 07:49.37 | htedrom | SerajewelKS, no, not really.... |
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| 07:49.59 | SerajewelKS | htedrom: packaging software for debian is not a simple process. be sure you have the will to finish before starting. |
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| 07:50.16 | htedrom | SerajewelKS, i don't understand...so apt-get is getting the wrong version from cvs..why? |
| 07:50.25 | SerajewelKS | htedrom: apt-get is not getting anything from cvs |
| 07:50.45 | htedrom | sorry i mean |
| 07:50.49 | SerajewelKS | htedrom: it is downloading a debian source package and making a debian binary package |
| 07:50.52 | htedrom | when i build from scatch with apt |
| 07:50.58 | htedrom | ahh k but |
| 07:51.10 | htedrom | i have the newer version in one of my repositories |
| 07:51.25 | SerajewelKS | htedrom: that's not cvs then |
| 07:51.28 | htedrom | hang on i'll get the error |
| 07:51.42 | htedrom | yea i know, it wasn't working, so i decided to get it from cvs |
| 07:51.46 | SerajewelKS | htedrom: is it a source repository or a binary repository |
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| 07:53.20 | htedrom | SerajewelKS, binary |
| 07:53.27 | htedrom | oh |
| 07:53.30 | htedrom | i need the source eh |
| 07:53.36 | ultravio1et16 | what's the order of apt-get.? it's stable, testing, then what? |
| 07:53.36 | htedrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:53.40 | SerajewelKS | htedrom: to build a package, yes |
| 07:54.03 | htedrom | what does that mean...not installable? |
| 07:54.06 | SerajewelKS | ultravio1et16: i don't know, because that question doesn't make any fucking sense |
| 07:54.07 | htedrom | i don't have a repository with it? |
| 07:54.24 | SerajewelKS | htedrom: it means it can't find a binary package named libxxf86dga1 -- you might need to build it |
| 07:54.52 | SerajewelKS | ultravio1et16: for kernel version i think 2.6.12 is the newest in etch |
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| 07:56.11 | htedrom | SerajewelKS, so can i build libxxf86dga1 if i have the source repository... |
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| 07:56.23 | htedrom | s/can i/i can |
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| 07:57.52 | wobbler | hetedrom: libxxf86dga1 is in unstable |
| 07:58.05 | htedrom | shit. |
| 07:58.09 | htedrom | i'm running sarge |
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| 07:58.44 | wobbler | hetedrom: it seems to be a xorg file |
| 07:59.39 | htedrom | xorg? |
| 07:59.44 | htedrom | i don't even run xorg |
| 08:00.00 | htedrom | can somehow compile wine without needing it? |
| 08:00.15 | wobbler | htedrom: thats why i mentioned it |
| 08:00.33 | htedrom | haha considerate |
| 08:00.36 | ultravio1et16 | it etch testing or unstable? |
| 08:00.52 | grew | how can i set the resolution for my framebuffer console using the savage driver? |
| 08:01.03 | grew | on boot that is |
| 08:01.43 | htedrom | er..so.. |
| 08:01.48 | htedrom | how would i go about doing that? |
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| 08:05.31 | htedrom | anyone? |
| 08:06.33 | wobbler | htedrom: I dont think you would |
| 08:06.47 | htedrom | heh ok |
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| 08:08.05 | wobbler | htedrom: unless you wont to get a backport of xorg |
| 08:08.30 | htedrom | no thanks |
| 08:08.35 | liable | grew: add a vga option to your kernel line. |
| 08:09.04 | grew | liable: does the accellerated framebuffer console stuff use the vga option? |
| 08:09.49 | liable | accellerated framebuffer? no idea. try it. |
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| 08:11.06 | d1rt | any scripts handy to find sector numbers of partition tables lost due to hosed master boot record? |
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| 08:13.03 | ink | looking for help with sound problem |
| 08:13.09 | wobbler | htedrom: if you use the wine in sarge it shouldnt need that i wouldnt think |
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| 08:13.39 | htedrom | wobbler, i tried, but it's got some problems |
| 08:13.40 | liable | d1rt: take a look at gpart |
| 08:13.51 | htedrom | wobbler, think i'd be going through this if the sarge version worked |
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| 08:14.51 | wobbler | htedrom: well i hope you get it worked out |
| 08:15.00 | htedrom | thanks |
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| 08:15.32 | ink | anyone know anything about sound in debian? |
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| 08:18.59 | grew | liable: do you know where i can find a list of the vga modes |
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| 08:21.07 | dondelelcaro | grew: they're in the kernel documentation, amoungst other places |
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| 08:22.30 | Guerin | !mpu401 |
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| 08:23.41 | eeyore- | grew: /usr/src/<linux>/Documentation/fb/* |
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| 08:28.57 | grew | eeyore-: thanks |
| 08:29.05 | grew | eeyore-: why did you ping me? |
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| 08:30.27 | bumblebee | hello |
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| 08:32.41 | bumblebee | is it possible to use the etch beta1 iso to net-install? I heard about a package key problem which rendered that install iso unusable... |
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| 08:35.42 | Guerin | !possible |
| 08:35.42 | dpkg | Anything's possible. Some things are more possible than others. Some things are even plausible! You'll need to ask a more meaningful question if you want to find out how possible your planned course of action is. |
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| 08:44.40 | eeyore- | #debian used to be more lively |
| 08:45.12 | htedrom | yea this place is dead |
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| 08:45.25 | bobbens | thats because the americans are sleeping |
| 08:45.26 | eeyore- | must be getting less popular |
| 08:45.37 | eeyore- | i'm not sleeping, yet |
| 08:45.40 | mbn2 | is there a way to remove "rc" packages ? ( dpkg -l ) |
| 08:45.42 | Guerin | !fable |
| 08:45.43 | dpkg | it has been said that fable is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable |
| 08:45.51 | Guerin | mbn2: they are removed. |
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| 08:46.11 | mbn2 | <Guerin> i assume some settings left behind |
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| 08:46.21 | Guerin | mbn2: dpkg -P packagename |
| 08:46.29 | mbn2 | thanks |
| 08:46.31 | eeyore- | mbn2: dpkg --purge |
| 08:46.36 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:46.36 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 08:47.19 | eeyore- | mbn2: also, look at "cruft" package |
| 08:47.30 | mbn2 | thanks |
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| 08:48.19 | eeyore- | take the output of cruft with a grain of salt ... some files it says are not owned by any package might still be important :-) |
| 08:48.54 | d1rt | ink: you may need ubuntu |
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| 08:49.37 | mbn2 | ill try it on a testing server first :) |
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| 08:56.30 | pinucset | one think, kopete asks me for libmeanwhile0 but i dont found it. How can i install kopete in my debian unstable? |
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| 08:58.03 | rmorgan_ | " /msg dpkg guidelines" |
| 08:58.36 | d1rt | liable: thanks. im not much for chat but theres always good info here |
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| 09:05.33 | justin420 | hi. anybody help with saving a certain set of iptables rules to ive already ran to come back upon reboot? |
| 09:06.37 | rezd | iptables-save |
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| 09:07.17 | justin420 | rezd: thats it? just run iptables-save?? root right? |
| 09:08.32 | rezd | Well, the thing is I am not sure about Debian, but that seems to work on Fedora, so I am sure you can use that command on Debian. |
| 09:08.37 | justin420 | rezd: cant believe i missed that one, must have overlooked something in the man pages, thanks allot! appreacite the help. |
| 09:08.54 | justin420 | :) |
| 09:08.54 | croddy | rezd: you may find that fedora and debian are not so alike |
| 09:09.19 | rezd | But how Debian actually does it so you save the configuration so it starts on reboot I'm not so sure |
| 09:09.38 | rezd | Yeah, I know there are differences. |
| 09:09.50 | rezd | But some of the commands are universal. |
| 09:09.59 | rezd | I think iptables-save is one of them. |
| 09:10.11 | justin420 | croddy: any ideas? is that what i should try or could you point me in the direction of a howto for debian sarge possibly? |
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| 09:10.33 | rezd | But where or how Debian saves its rules to start on reboot I would like to know as well. |
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| 09:12.51 | rezd | I believe you would be able to save the iptables configuration with iptables-save on Debian as well. |
| 09:13.49 | justin420 | rezd: thanks allot again, i tried that and it seemed to do something, i guess a reboot is in order to see if it actually did or what. I was just trying to get some other ideas from anyone. thanks all. :) |
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| 09:16.15 | barbara | is there a way to purge a package that is not installed any more? |
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| 09:17.36 | threat|idle | barbara, dpkg --pugre $package_name |
| 09:17.38 | liable | barbara: dpkg -P |
| 09:17.42 | threat|idle | pugre = purge |
| 09:18.03 | threat|idle | yes or you could do -P to purge all packages that have been removed |
| 09:18.11 | barbara | thanks |
| 09:18.23 | threat|idle | lol mn |
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| 09:18.35 | threat|idle | either command you need to specify a package name :) |
| 09:18.43 | threat|idle | -P is just a short hand for --purge |
| 09:18.47 | threat|idle | my bad |
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| 09:23.54 | ultravio1et16 | does anyone know where i can get info on how to install a .deb package right from my computer? |
| 09:24.11 | vulture | ultravio1et16: man dpkg |
| 09:24.24 | ultravio1et16 | thanks |
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| 09:26.27 | ultravio1et16 | i converted this deb from rpm with alien, i hope it works |
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| 09:27.27 | peterS | ultravio1et16: yeah that's a crapshoot, they sometimes work fine and sometimes don't |
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| 09:28.50 | ultravio1et16 | yeah well this time i wasn't lucky. |
| 09:28.50 | ultravio1et16 | i get the following error: |
| 09:28.50 | barbara | would anyone happen to know what module the S3 Unichrome Pro needs for x.org? |
| 09:28.51 | ultravio1et16 | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 09:28.54 | aybr | where to save routing table informaition, so don't need to enter it manually every time i boot my box |
| 09:29.01 | Guerin | ultravio1et16: not an error |
| 09:29.06 | Guerin | ultravio1et16: paste the whole output |
| 09:29.12 | peterS | barbara: hmmm, unichrome ... that used to be an externally maintained driver |
| 09:29.17 | Guerin | ultravio1et16: not in here, on a pastebin |
| 09:29.25 | ultravio1et16 | Guerin: i'll paste it in #flood |
| 09:29.31 | crypt_ex | I want to get into the habit of using aptitude, but I just tried installing something like aptitude install package... and its wanting to remove loads of packages...it states unused? Whats this all about thne? |
| 09:29.45 | Guerin | ultravio1et16: no good to me there |
| 09:29.51 | ultravio1et16 | what pastebin then? |
| 09:30.02 | Guerin | crypt_ex: purge aptitude and reinstall it |
| 09:30.11 | peterS | !paster |
| 09:30.11 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 09:30.13 | peterS | ultravio1et16: that one |
| 09:30.14 | Guerin | crypt_ex: this sometimes happens when you change from apt-get to aptitude |
| 09:30.18 | crypt_ex | Guerin, okay thanks |
| 09:30.27 | barbara | peterS: you are not making me happy when you say that ;) |
| 09:30.42 | Guerin | hrm, is 'pcspkr' an oss module, an alsa module, or not considered to be a sound module at all? |
| 09:30.47 | peterS | barbara: I *thought* I heard that the unichrome driver was included in x.org but I don't remember details |
| 09:30.52 | peterS | Guerin: it's an input module, believe it or not |
| 09:30.59 | crypt_ex | Guerin, yea, only doing this,because apt-get does not remove the libs and other dependicies that get installed once you install a package and then choose to remove it. |
| 09:31.05 | Guerin | peterS: ok. So it's not interfering with my alsa? |
| 09:31.05 | peterS | Guerin: since the PC speaker is related, hardware-wise, to the keyboard controller |
| 09:31.13 | peterS | shouldn't interfere |
| 09:31.16 | Guerin | right |
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| 09:31.33 | comsa | aptitude any good |
| 09:31.38 | Guerin | well, alsa has recently broken utterly on the machine which it's been working perfectly on for ~2 years |
| 09:31.45 | crypt_ex | comsa, about to find out :) |
| 09:31.48 | Guerin | comsa: /msg dpkg aptitude |
| 09:32.06 | peterS | barbara: hmmm, try the 'via' driver |
| 09:32.16 | ultravio1et16 | Guerin: ok here's the pastebin |
| 09:32.19 | ultravio1et16 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1618 |
| 09:32.57 | Guerin | ultravio1et16: dpkg --force-help |
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| 09:33.42 | Guerin | so, I'm downloading debian cd1 and ubuntu breezy, and I'll install whichever one comes in faster, just as a test |
| 09:33.48 | peterS | Guerin: heh |
| 09:33.52 | Guerin | debian is currently winning by ~13MB |
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| 09:33.56 | barbara | peterS: seems to work, if i am not back, it does |
| 09:33.59 | barbara | thanks :) |
| 09:34.00 | peterS | barbara: cool |
| 09:34.34 | ultravio1et16 | Guerin: just --force-help? |
| 09:34.39 | Guerin | ultravio1et16: yes. |
| 09:35.18 | Guerin | peterS: the screwything is that when you load, then unload the OSS modules, all the alsa modules (which no force on earth will load otherwise) get loaded automatically - but the card still doesn't work |
| 09:35.34 | Guerin | i love ISA |
| 09:35.38 | Guerin | oh yes I do |
| 09:35.39 | peterS | Guerin: weird. |
| 09:35.57 | peterS | ultravio1et16: --force-help will tell you about the various --force options to dpkg. one of these is what you want. |
| 09:36.02 | peterS | ultravio1et16: telling you which one would spoil the fun (: |
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| 09:36.23 | ultravio1et16 | i think it's overwrite |
| 09:36.27 | peterS | ding ding ding |
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| 09:36.29 | peterS | it is indeed |
| 09:36.31 | ultravio1et16 | =D |
| 09:36.37 | ultravio1et16 | do i win something? |
| 09:36.52 | wintalker | crazy frog |
| 09:37.09 | Guerin | ultravio1et16: you win the ability to install fglrx |
| 09:37.13 | Guerin | barring other mishaps |
| 09:37.14 | peterS | so, dpkg, let's see what ultravio1et16 has won |
| 09:37.15 | peterS | !win ultravio1et16 |
| 09:37.16 | dpkg | Congratulations, ultravio1et16! You have won a one way ticket to Nova Scotia! |
| 09:37.16 | ultravio1et16 | yay |
| 09:37.21 | ultravio1et16 | ha |
| 09:37.28 | ultravio1et16 | hahaha wth that's funny. |
| 09:37.47 | ultravio1et16 | anyway, ok it ran through, thanks guys.. let's see now, i needed to do that to get my ati card working. |
| 09:38.04 | ultravio1et16 | 0_o |
| 09:38.14 | peterS | raf256: not in here, please. you can hump in #flood |
| 09:38.22 | raf256 | peterS: ok ;) |
| 09:38.32 | peterS | they say it'd kind of kinky doing it in there, actually |
| 09:38.50 | raf256 | !sex |
| 09:38.50 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 09:39.02 | peterS | bleh, that's the most overrated unix joke ever |
| 09:39.31 | Alam_Debian | ...... |
| 09:39.44 | peterS | and the apt-get lines totally break the train - they aren't puns of the same type |
| 09:40.02 | raf256 | but its debianihs |
| 09:40.15 | croddy | you used to be able to apt-get install sex |
| 09:40.22 | croddy | but it seems to have been removed for sarge |
| 09:40.24 | peterS | and what did you get? a crummy text editor |
| 09:40.27 | peterS | I was so disappointed |
| 09:40.29 | croddy | exactly |
| 09:40.41 | raf256 | lets make some cool sex games |
| 09:40.43 | raf256 | game |
| 09:40.51 | peterS | actually that's a lie, I never used apt-get for sex. I used dselect back in those days |
| 09:40.55 | raf256 | in your face republicans and catcholics |
| 09:41.23 | Guerin | wtf |
| 09:41.33 | raf256 | *ateist |
| 09:41.34 | Guerin | raf256: can you go and be a child elsewhere? |
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| 09:41.41 | ultravio1et16 | hey, after i installed this, how do I know if my ati card is working right? |
| 09:41.49 | Guerin | raf256: i think you mean 'atheist', or more probably 'fuckwit' |
| 09:41.52 | croddy | raf256: please do some research on john f kennedy |
| 09:41.53 | raf256 | Guerin: when I just invent the time machine I could try to |
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| 09:42.22 | raf256 | Guerin: I ment atheist, as in: guy smart enought to not be fooled by religion to not dooing fun stuff |
| 09:42.42 | croddy | raf256: how do you think catholics end up with 12 kids? osmosis? |
| 09:42.44 | raf256 | croddy: on what topic? |
| 09:42.50 | Guerin | raf256: it may come as a surprise to you that most religious people aren't fooled into anything |
| 09:42.57 | croddy | well, his religious and party affiliations, for starters |
| 09:43.01 | raf256 | croddy: "catholics end up with 12 kids" is my point =) |
| 09:43.10 | peterS | croddy: and his reproductive habits? |
| 09:43.11 | croddy | raf256: i dont think you have a point |
| 09:43.20 | raf256 | Guerin: the smartes people are know are not athiests as well |
| 09:43.29 | Guerin | if you do have a point, now would be a good time to drive it into your eye socket |
| 09:43.29 | croddy | the smartes people are know are not athiests as well |
| 09:43.30 | ultravio1et16 | i guess i'll wait till everyone is done with their religious battles =) |
| 09:43.35 | croddy | the smartes people are know are not athiests as well |
| 09:44.05 | Guerin | ultravio1et16: try and start x. If it works, it works. If not, it doesn't. |
| 09:44.12 | croddy | ultravio1et16: still with the glx problem? |
| 09:44.12 | raf256 | catlcholics and windows users have same in common: settle in for lousy solution of a problem, not caring if the solution is stupid illogical inneficent, just because everyone does it |
| 09:44.12 | peterS | ultravio1et16: oh, is it fglrx you're installing? best bet is to use the debian packages 'fglrx-driver' and 'fglrx-kernel-src' in the non-free debian archive |
| 09:44.23 | Guerin | ... |
| 09:44.31 | ultravio1et16 | oh well i already installed it |
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| 09:44.44 | raf256 | ultraviolet16: what was the question? |
| 09:44.44 | ultravio1et16 | anyways, i got this package from the ati website |
| 09:44.45 | Guerin | raf256: except that catholocism isn't even close to the biggest religion in the world |
| 09:44.47 | peterS | ultravio1et16: the fglrx driver unfortunately requires a kernel driver which has to be compiled from source using kernel headers and ... yeah. unpleasantness. the maintainer of the debian package tries to make this as painless as possible |
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| 09:45.05 | raf256 | Guerin: well ok, it is close to beeing macos user =) not too popular, but still stupid |
| 09:45.15 | raf256 | s/macos/windows ME |
| 09:45.22 | Guerin | raf256: no ... you see... it's YOU who's the stupid one. |
| 09:45.25 | ultravio1et16 | well i'm just trying to get my ati card working =/ |
| 09:45.29 | croddy | raf256: if you are going to insult my religion, i insist that you read and learn about it first. thanks. |
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| 09:45.39 | ultravio1et16 | so i went to ati's site and found an rpm |
| 09:45.50 | Guerin | this isn't even my religion and *I*'m insulted! |
| 09:45.51 | raf256 | Guerin: because I dont care about some ghost that are own fathers and sons when I have sex before marriage? |
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| 09:46.10 | raf256 | or I dont care about Allah telling me to stab self when watching pr0n? |
| 09:46.17 | peterS | raf256: you are being off-topic and gratuitiously insulting. this channel isn't about Windows ME. take it elsewhere, please. |
| 09:46.33 | Guerin | raf256: if your general maturity level is anything to go on, you won't be having sex of ANY kind for at least a decade. |
| 09:46.51 | crypt_ex | Anyone recommend a good usenet client? |
| 09:47.02 | raf256 | croddy: I was catholic for years. same as I was windows user. then I grow up. Im happy for you that you at least realies your mistake in half |
| 09:47.13 | ultravio1et16 | should I go into my xorg.conf and stick in ati at the driver spot? |
| 09:47.23 | Guerin | !ops can we send raf256 to the special hell, please? |
| 09:47.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: can we send raf256 to the special hell, please |
| 09:47.25 | croddy | raf256: i use what works for me. you should do the same. |
| 09:47.27 | raf256 | crypt_ex: thunderbird, knode for X |
| 09:47.29 | peterS | crypt_ex: back in the day I used to use trn exclusively. looks basic and unfriendly but once you got used to it it could do a lot. I haven't read usenet in almost 10 years though |
| 09:47.43 | crypt_ex | raf256, I have and use Thunderbird....that supports usenet? |
| 09:47.55 | raf256 | crypt_ex: yes, just create new account of type: news |
| 09:47.57 | peterS | ultravio1et16: "ati" means the free driver that comes with xorg, not the non-free fglrx that comes direct from ATi |
| 09:48.04 | crypt_ex | peterS, yea same...wanna check it out. |
| 09:48.14 | crypt_ex | raf256, ta |
| 09:48.18 | raf256 | Guerin: out of arguments I assume? if you have any fell free to tell me on #politics |
| 09:48.19 | ultravio1et16 | peterS: so how do I enable that driver I supposedly just installed? |
| 09:48.48 | Guerin | raf256: out of arguments? I'm not even arguing, I'm just ridiculing you. |
| 09:48.52 | peterS | ultravio1et16: probably the driver is named 'fglrx'. but it'll require a kernel module as well as the X.org driver, and the kernel module will need to be compiled against your current kernel |
| 09:48.56 | Guerin | raf256: but it IS offtopic. |
| 09:48.59 | peterS | ultravio1et16: I'm guessing all that didn't happen automatically |
| 09:49.13 | ultravio1et16 | i dunno |
| 09:49.18 | ultravio1et16 | i'm going to restart x |
| 09:49.23 | raf256 | croddy: well if ghosts telling you what to do and what not to do, for no apparent reson, works for you, then thats fine </eot> (or take it to #politics, Im thre) |
| 09:49.27 | ultravio1et16 | how can I restart x without haveing to reboot? |
| 09:49.37 | ultravio1et16 | cause i know there's a way, just never got around to figuring it out |
| 09:49.47 | peterS | ultravio1et16: ctrl-alt-backspace, but probably log out first for general cleanlines |
| 09:49.50 | peterS | +s |
| 09:49.53 | croddy | ultravio1et16: if you are using a display manager such as gdm, you can do /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
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| 09:50.10 | ultravio1et16 | cool thanks |
| 09:50.13 | Guerin | peterS: because cleanliness is next to godliness |
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| 09:50.31 | peterS | Guerin: so raf256 is probably not terribly clean? |
| 09:50.33 | ultravio1et16 | peterS: didn't know that restarted x, i've done it before thanks |
| 09:51.00 | Guerin | peterS: it's hard to change your own nappies |
| 09:51.01 | peterS | ultravio1et16: it doesn't restart X, technically - it *kills* X. then xdm or gdm or whatever display manager - it notices that X died so it starts a new one |
| 09:51.05 | Guerin | nappies == diapers, for you merkins |
| 09:51.11 | ultravio1et16 | ah ok |
| 09:51.20 | ultravio1et16 | well be back soon.. should of started this in screen.. |
| 09:51.23 | ultravio1et16 | byebye |
| 09:51.23 | croddy | merkins = americans, for you americans |
| 09:51.30 | peterS | croddy: heh |
| 09:51.41 | Guerin | heh |
| 09:51.44 | samo_ | hi |
| 09:51.48 | peterS | yeah, I picked up on 'nappies' but thanks for the clarification anyway |
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| 09:52.12 | samo_ | i installed apache2 php5 and mysql using apt-get. Everything works fine so far but the session. I read in some post on the net that i should install php5-extension for it to handle sessions, but i can not seem to find this package with apt-get - anyone knows what's wrong ? |
| 09:52.29 | peterS | samo_: did it say what the php extension is called? |
| 09:52.47 | peterS | samo_: I hadn't heard that you needed any particular extension for that sort of thing, but I also am not a php programmer |
| 09:52.48 | samo_ | no they say its a meta package called php5-extension |
| 09:53.14 | samo_ | i dont remember instaling that extension wheni was using windows either |
| 09:53.35 | Guerin | urk ... php is bad enough |
| 09:53.37 | Guerin | but on windows? |
| 09:53.44 | peterS | samo_: yeah I've not heard of 'php5-extension' or anything like it |
| 09:54.05 | samo_ | ok thanks i ll keep looking then, it must something else that is going wrong |
| 09:54.39 | peterS | samo_: have you looked through /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini or wherever the relevant php.ini lives in libapache2-mod-php5? |
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| 09:54.53 | peterS | samo_: I don't have that package installed so I had to just guess where it put that file |
| 09:55.17 | samo_ | i ve checked the php.ini file, it seems that session support in enabled |
| 09:55.33 | samo_ | session_save_path is /var/lib/php5 and that folder exists with writing rights |
| 09:55.33 | peterS | samo_: where *does* php.ini live in that package? |
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| 09:56.18 | samo_ | it is in /etc/php5/apache/php.ini |
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| 09:56.37 | htedrom | hey guys |
| 09:56.44 | htedrom | is it really the end of the world if i install from source |
| 09:56.54 | htedrom | like i know as a rule of thumb it's not a good idea |
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| 09:56.59 | htedrom | but will it actually break anything |
| 09:57.01 | peterS | htedrom: it just makes more work for you |
| 09:57.01 | croddy | samo_: /etc/php5/apache/php.ini would be for apache, /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini would be for apache2 |
| 09:57.16 | htedrom | peterS, because i have to find everything to delete later? |
| 09:57.22 | peterS | htedrom: and whether it breaks anything depends on what you install from source and whether it interferes with other stuff debian has installed |
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| 09:57.31 | htedrom | i'm installing wine |
| 09:57.33 | peterS | htedrom: yeah, basically you're spurning the advantages of package management |
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| 09:57.43 | htedrom | and it's not going into /usr/local |
| 09:57.44 | croddy | htedrom: we've got wine in the apt repositories |
| 09:57.52 | htedrom | croddy, old version |
| 09:58.19 | peterS | htedrom: yeah, the problem with compiling stuff from source is that you have to take responsibility for how to upgrade, remove, configure, and integrate the package with the rest of your system |
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| 09:58.30 | peterS | htedrom: if you use Debian-provided packages, most of that work is done for you |
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| 09:58.51 | peterS | htedrom: but if that doesn't bother you, go ahead and do what you will. if you stick to /usr/local, it makes your life easier on all those fronts, though |
| 09:59.15 | peterS | since *your* stuff and *dpkg's* stuff will be cleanly separated so you can easily tell what's what |
| 09:59.22 | htedrom | yea i'd love to, but i didn't think of it at compile time, and the compile takes hours |
| 09:59.54 | croddy | htedrom: definitely do not install third party software in /usr |
| 10:00.07 | htedrom | i dunno where it's gonna go |
| 10:00.12 | peterS | htedrom: the other disadvantage of not using /usr/local is that if you overwrite files installed by dpkg, or vice versa, nobody will catch this and something will silently break |
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| 10:00.27 | peterS | htedrom: most software, if you don't tell it explicitly at configure time, will pick /usr/local anyway |
| 10:00.34 | croddy | htedrom: so stop the build, reconfigure, and start it again. make is smart enough to only rebuild what it needs to... |
| 10:00.48 | htedrom | oh really? |
| 10:00.49 | htedrom | hmm |
| 10:00.52 | htedrom | ok i'll do that |
| 10:01.01 | htedrom | what do i have to pass to the configure script? |
| 10:01.09 | croddy | --prefix=/usr/local should do it |
| 10:01.13 | htedrom | ok |
| 10:01.20 | croddy | but that can vary |
| 10:01.23 | peterS | htedrom: --help is a good start. --prefix=/usr/local is usually already the default |
| 10:01.26 | croddy | ./configure --help is usually informative |
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| 10:02.22 | htedrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:02.22 | htedrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:02.37 | htedrom | that means /usr/local is default right |
| 10:02.40 | peterS | htedrom: yeah. only don't paste stuff like that in here. but yeah. |
| 10:02.43 | htedrom | so i don't have to remake? |
| 10:02.46 | htedrom | sorry.. |
| 10:02.58 | croddy | you should be fine |
| 10:03.03 | htedrom | k |
| 10:03.04 | crypt_ex | I have this Linux box perfect now, and would like to mirror this so if a disaster should happen, I can use this dvd to restore from. Hopefully one of those bootable dvds which does all the work for you :) I have tried Mondo but this failed burning on 69% and dont want to waste another dvd, any suggestions? |
| 10:03.05 | Guerin | if you're going to install yourself, use checkinstall |
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| 10:03.16 | Guerin | it does it all for you and makes a .deb |
| 10:03.36 | htedrom | it makes a deb?! |
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| 10:03.45 | htedrom | i hear it takes hours and hours to make a deb |
| 10:03.45 | Guerin | checkinstall can, yeah |
| 10:03.59 | Guerin | bullshit |
| 10:03.59 | Guerin | it's almost trivial |
| 10:04.13 | peterS | htedrom: checkinstall basically does a 'make install' and captures the output into a .deb file. that's *really* simplified, but it's the basic idea. |
| 10:04.28 | croddy | that's cool. |
| 10:04.42 | htedrom | yea that's really cool |
| 10:04.46 | htedrom | haha |
| 10:05.32 | THEoracle | hello all |
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| 10:06.16 | Guerin | THEoracle: what will the weather be like tomorrow? |
| 10:06.37 | susperia | guys. anyone ever used pop-before-smtp with courier/exim with success ? |
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| 10:06.51 | Piranha | lirc is really ridiculous. |
| 10:06.54 | Piranha | open("/dev/ttyS0", O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK|O_NOCTTY) = 7 |
| 10:06.58 | Guerin | s9ik3: no, it's virgin territory. Good luck, and watch out for crocodiles. |
| 10:06.59 | htedrom | do i want a default set of package docs? |
| 10:07.02 | Piranha | writev(2, [{"lircd 0.7.1pre2[19336]: could not open /dev/ttyS0", 49}, {"\n", 1}], 2lircd 0.7.1pre2[19336]: could not open /dev/ttyS0) = 50 |
| 10:07.15 | Guerin | susperia: see my advice to s9ik3 |
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| 10:07.24 | Guerin | Piranha: don't paste, you fool |
| 10:07.28 | s9ik3 | so italiano.. |
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| 10:07.40 | Piranha | ... It was two lines. |
| 10:07.43 | Piranha | Would you prefer that I hand-type it? |
| 10:07.46 | Guerin | htedrom: widhe |
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| 10:08.01 | Guerin | Piranha: i'd prefer you send it to /dev/null |
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| 10:08.14 | croddy | one of these days, i'm going to build a usb null device |
| 10:08.17 | Piranha | CLEVAR. |
| 10:08.59 | crypt_ex | lol |
| 10:09.01 | htedrom | Guerin, hmm? |
| 10:09.06 | htedrom | Guerin, widhe? |
| 10:09.10 | Guerin | !widhe |
| 10:09.11 | dpkg | When In Doubt, Hit Enter |
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| 10:09.28 | nesys | hi folks |
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| 10:09.55 | nesys | I've created a new kernel, and now when I use apt-get I see that: |
| 10:10.02 | nesys | dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `kernel-image-2.6.8-nesyos-05.01.2006' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. |
| 10:10.02 | nesys | 48131 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 10:10.06 | nesys | what could I do? |
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| 10:10.48 | htedrom | Guerin, lol |
| 10:10.49 | Guerin | nesys: build it properly this time |
| 10:10.55 | Guerin | nesys: /msg dpkg kp mantra |
| 10:10.59 | nesys | mmm ... I see now, this is a old kernel (removed) |
| 10:10.59 | samo_ | hi again |
| 10:11.07 | nesys | Guerin ghgh :) |
| 10:11.19 | samo_ | could anyone explain to me why sometimes i am told to try apt-get -f install ? |
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| 10:11.23 | ultravio1et16 | hey all I'm back |
| 10:11.28 | samo_ | what does that do exactely ? |
| 10:11.34 | nesys | Guerin maybe I've to clear the system .. but how? |
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| 10:11.59 | ultravio1et16 | can someone tell me how to reconfigure a package? |
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| 10:12.16 | croddy | ultravio1et16: dpkg-reconfigure <packagename> |
| 10:12.20 | ultravio1et16 | ok thanks |
| 10:12.39 | Guerin | nesys: dunno. |
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| 10:13.47 | htedrom | getting full eh |
| 10:14.30 | htedrom | it's weird how most people would freak out even thinking about making a speech to 700 people |
| 10:14.43 | htedrom | but in a chatroom it's a nonissue |
| 10:14.49 | Guerin | heh |
| 10:14.55 | dingus9 | how can I find what /dev/input/ my logitech usb mouse is set too? |
| 10:15.03 | Guerin | !offence |
| 10:15.03 | dpkg | from memory, offence is don't take offence at things in IRC, none of us exist, we're just lines of text on your screen |
| 10:15.09 | dingus9 | lol so trun htedrom |
| 10:15.31 | htedrom | lol |
| 10:15.40 | htedrom | yea and the 700 people sitting in their chairs watching you |
| 10:15.45 | htedrom | are just figments of your imagination |
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| 10:16.34 | dingus9 | i think most are just idlers any way |
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| 10:17.45 | nesys | someone knows how to clear the system? this warning is about an old package removed |
| 10:17.51 | croddy | i'm actually a bot |
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| 10:19.30 | dondelelcaro | nesys: use the paster bot to give us the exact output that you're seeing, please. |
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| 10:20.12 | dondelelcaro | nesys: in that case, it seems that you've lost the .list file for that package; if it's no longer needed, just purge that package. |
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| 10:22.54 | efaistos | does someone uses gtkpod ? |
| 10:22.55 | claudiu | hello |
| 10:23.12 | claudiu | i just did a apt-get dist-upgrade and no i have no sound :( |
| 10:23.30 | Guerin | claudiu: what branch of debian, what kernel, what card? |
| 10:23.59 | nesys | Guerin isi :) dpkg -r :) |
| 10:24.12 | claudiu | Guerin: testing, 2.6.12, trident |
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| 10:24.23 | nesys | dondelelcaro thanks :) solved |
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| 10:24.27 | Guerin | claudiu: what module does it normally use? |
| 10:24.32 | claudiu | alsa |
| 10:24.43 | nesys | someone has my same problem about rtc/genrtc on boot? |
| 10:24.44 | Guerin | claudiu: alsa is not a module |
| 10:24.46 | claudiu | oh.. sorry... trident? |
| 10:24.53 | Guerin | claudiu: don't guess. |
| 10:24.57 | kingston | I just bougth a Kingston Data Traveler 256 usb pendrive and it is not recognized, anyone can help me? |
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| 10:25.09 | claudiu | Guerin: trident i had o slackware and worked fine |
| 10:25.25 | Guerin | claudiu: 'trident' would be an OSS module |
| 10:25.26 | claudiu | Guerin: i have a SiS chipset and music onboard |
| 10:25.53 | Guerin | claudiu: look at the output of lspci and google the model name and so on to figure out what module |
| 10:25.54 | claudiu | Guerin: as i can remember, i was using debian testing in the past and had no such problems |
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| 10:26.15 | claudiu | Guerin: and just apt-get install "module"? |
| 10:26.21 | kingston | debian tells me my 256MB pendrive has 1.9Gb and vfat formatting failed, any help? |
| 10:26.22 | Guerin | claudiu: no, modprobe module |
| 10:26.41 | claudiu | 0000:00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02) |
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| 10:27.41 | Guerin | claudiu: google. I don't see a snd- module which immediately fits that |
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| 10:28.06 | Guerin | kingston: you probably want to make a partition on it |
| 10:28.06 | claudiu | :( |
| 10:29.02 | kingston | Guerin: it already has one partition, and 255Mb on it, but surprisingly it is not recognized |
| 10:29.18 | nesys | dondelelcaro you know something about rtc/genrtc ? |
| 10:29.21 | kingston | Guerin: dmesg keeps telling FAT: Directory bread(block 1984978) failed |
| 10:29.21 | kingston | attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 10:29.21 | kingston | sda: rw=0, want=1984980, limit=499712 |
| 10:29.57 | Guerin | kingston: make a new partition |
| 10:30.08 | Guerin | kingston: i recently had issues like this with my usb drive |
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| 10:30.30 | kingston | Guerin: a new partition removing old one? |
| 10:30.36 | Guerin | kingston: yes. |
| 10:30.42 | Guerin | kingston: use *fdisk |
| 10:30.56 | kingston | Guerin: I used cfdisk, is it the same? |
| 10:31.08 | Guerin | kingston: that fits the pattern *fdisk |
| 10:32.04 | kingston | Guerin: ah ok, by the way, I have read some problems with kingston drives... know something? |
| 10:32.36 | Guerin | kingston: nope. Mine is sandisk, and seems to work. |
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| 10:33.12 | Guerin | though I never could figure out how to boot off it |
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| 10:35.35 | kingston | Guerin: no way, dmesg keeps complaining |
| 10:35.39 | susperia | if there's someone that can tell me how to only allow authed relaying in exim4, instead of relay "all"... do advise :) |
| 10:35.49 | Agrajag- | ok so on a testing box i do an apt-get dist-upgrade (hasn't had any updates for a year or so) and it tells me "This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option." |
| 10:35.56 | Guerin | kingston: no idea, then. I just fdisked it and it got better |
| 10:36.07 | kingston | Guerin: gnome-volume-manager mounts the pendrive, but it doesn't recognize its size |
| 10:36.18 | kingston | Guerin: shoud I mkfs.vfat it? |
| 10:36.21 | Agrajag- | is this Force-LoopBreak option what i need to do? |
| 10:36.40 | Guerin | kingston: try it, but I don't expect it'll work |
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| 10:36.59 | Guerin | Agrajag-: yeah. |
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| 10:37.07 | Guerin | Agrajag-: read man apt.conf |
| 10:37.10 | Agrajag- | ta |
| 10:37.31 | claudiu | Guerin: for the record: I put the snd-intel8x0m in the /etc/hotplug/balcklist, the same thing happend to me in slackware. reboot, and now sound is working |
| 10:37.42 | claudiu | :) |
| 10:37.42 | htedrom | hey guys, i just downloaded wine with cvs, compiled it, ran checkinstall, made a deb, installed it, and it doesn't work |
| 10:37.42 | Guerin | susperia: #exim |
| 10:37.50 | shib | How does it work with multiple os (windows/debian)? |
| 10:37.54 | Guerin | claudiu: oh. You're using oss, then. |
| 10:38.05 | claudiu | Guerin: why do you say that? |
| 10:38.07 | Guerin | shib: how does what work? |
| 10:38.08 | htedrom | "relocation error" |
| 10:38.21 | Guerin | claudiu: because all alsa modules start with snd-, and all oss modules don't |
| 10:38.32 | claudiu | Guerin: i see. thanks |
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| 10:38.57 | shib | Guerin: Does Debian have an easyconfigured bootmanager? Im going to run with two systems |
| 10:39.09 | shib | win/debian |
| 10:39.28 | Guerin | shib: yes. |
| 10:39.52 | Guerin | shib: and unlike windows, it'll try to detect and enable windows if it can - so install windows first. |
| 10:40.16 | dondelelcaro | or better, don't install windows at all |
| 10:40.22 | shib | Guerin: I got windows installed ATM, I |
| 10:40.31 | Guerin | shib: good. |
| 10:41.06 | claudiu | is it safe to get firefox 1.5 from backports on a testing running debian? |
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| 10:41.20 | shib | Guerin: Then Debian should detect windows and fix a bootmanager? |
| 10:41.57 | Guerin | shib: should do. |
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| 10:42.09 | shib | Guerin: Okay, thnx alot =) |
| 10:42.44 | x-x- | you should tell the installer to write the bootloader to MBR |
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| 10:43.32 | HugLeo | E receive the msg: configure: error: X Window not found. What's package need to install? |
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| 10:43.56 | x-x- | x-window-system |
| 10:43.56 | monteiro | is there any debian based distro for the blind persons ? |
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| 10:44.27 | Kaigeek | hi channel |
| 10:44.38 | cheal | claudiu: why? can't you just get sid's? |
| 10:44.41 | HugLeo | x-x-: x-windows-system-dev, too? |
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| 10:44.53 | cheal | !x windows |
| 10:45.00 | x-x- | HugLeo: if you are compiling yes |
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| 10:45.21 | claudiu | cheal: testing has 1.07, i want 1.5, and i am ready to accept alternative solution |
| 10:45.30 | croddy | claudiu: unstable has 1.5 |
| 10:45.45 | claudiu | croody: want testing |
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| 10:46.02 | cheal | claudiu: you already have testing's |
| 10:46.19 | claudiu | croody: i have a local mirror that is VERY fast, and it doesn't have unstable |
| 10:46.27 | HugLeo | x-x-, I'm compiling scilab |
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| 10:46.40 | claudiu | cheal: what? |
| 10:46.59 | croddy | claudiu: what's the problem, then? |
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| 10:47.18 | cheal | claudiu: if what you said is right, you already have testing's firefox, 1.0.7 |
| 10:47.24 | x-x- | get it off a different irror |
| 10:47.24 | claudiu | i have testing. and it gas firefox 1.0.7. i want to use 1.5. |
| 10:47.29 | x-x- | *mirror |
| 10:47.34 | claudiu | *has |
| 10:47.45 | croddy | claudiu: use a public mirror to get firefox 1.5 from unstbale |
| 10:47.47 | cheal | claudiu: so, get sid's firefox |
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| 10:48.07 | claudiu | is it safe to get firefox from unstable on a testing? |
| 10:48.14 | cheal | claudiu: yes |
| 10:48.24 | claudiu | cheak: ok then. i'll try |
| 10:48.34 | claudiu | thanks |
| 10:49.23 | claudiu | hmm... does unstable have kde 3.5? |
| 10:49.36 | ejofee | is it possible to (quite) safely write on ntfs yet? |
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| 10:50.12 | claudiu | claudiu: yes, it has... |
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| 10:52.47 | Guerin | ejofee: no, and it won't be in the forseeable future. |
| 10:52.48 | cheal | !tell ejofee about ntfsrw |
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| 10:53.31 | Kaigeek | dpkg pgp key ? |
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| 10:53.39 | Guerin | Kaigeek: 2006 key |
| 10:53.48 | Kaigeek | hmm |
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| 10:54.01 | DJ-Marcuzz | hello |
| 10:54.02 | Kaigeek | ozgur:/home/ozgur# gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F |
| 10:54.11 | Kaigeek | gpg: keyserver timed out |
| 10:54.15 | Kaigeek | Guerin, :) |
| 10:54.21 | Guerin | Kaigeek: sucks. |
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| 10:55.22 | Kaigeek | Guerin, what is sucks ? |
| 10:55.27 | ejofee | Guerin: i can understand why not yet, but why do you think it't will not be available "for the foreseeable future", either? |
| 10:55.28 | DJ-Marcuzz | i pulled the pplug out of my file server yesterday by accident, and booted it up thiis morning, i didn't know that my file array was out of sync and rebooted, after the reboot it would start my raid5 file array, what can i do to make it work again? |
| 10:55.35 | Guerin | Kaigeek: keyservers timing out sucks. |
| 10:55.41 | Kaigeek | hm ok :) |
| 10:55.45 | ejofee | s/it\'t/it/ |
| 10:55.46 | DJ-Marcuzz | please help me get it online again, its years of work on it :( |
| 10:55.50 | bbrazil | Kaigeek: firewall? gpg has a honor-http-proxy option. if that doesn't work download it off the web (pgp.mit.edu) and --import it |
| 10:55.54 | mcgreg | ahh the 2.6.15 update was a good decision, the stupid bug, that my realtek-100mbit eth has been found on random eth# is at least gone |
| 10:56.06 | Guerin | ejofee: because ntfs is extremely complicated, and MS are no closer to releasing spec than they ever have been. |
| 10:56.08 | DJ-Marcuzz | im running debian sarge with kernel 2.4-smp |
| 10:56.14 | Kaigeek | bbrazil, hm ok |
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| 10:57.05 | Kaigeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:57.08 | Kaigeek | bbrazil, hm oke? |
| 10:57.18 | croddy | ejofee: if you really need ntfs rw, look into captive-ntfs |
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| 10:57.34 | Guerin | if you really need ntfs rw, fucking use windows |
| 10:57.37 | ejofee | Guerin: no foreseeable way to cheat it somehow, to reverse-engineer it? |
| 10:57.42 | ejofee | croddy: thank you. |
| 10:57.52 | bbrazil | Kaigeek: you could do that, but I actually meant to use a webbrowser :) |
| 10:58.00 | Kaigeek | hm ok |
| 10:58.06 | Guerin | ejofee: i'm not exactly a filesystem hacker, and the best case I can see is if ntfs is abandoned entirely. |
| 10:58.09 | ejofee | croddy: you say "if you really need..." because it is insecure? |
| 10:58.28 | croddy | ejofee: no, because the one time i set it up, it was a pain in the ass |
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| 10:59.30 | DJ-Marcuzz | some, please help me out here |
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| 11:01.59 | drasko | hi all. How to set up dhcp eth1 with ifconfig command? |
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| 11:02.15 | Guerin | drasko: man ifconfig |
| 11:02.29 | mcgreg | drasko: why not use ifup? |
| 11:02.35 | x-x-_ | dhclient eth1 |
| 11:02.42 | Guerin | if you want an ip, why not just use dhclient |
| 11:02.43 | Guerin | ? |
| 11:02.56 | Guerin | it's not clear whether you're running a server or client |
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| 11:03.01 | A|X | disk[Total : 884.48GB, 67.30% Free] |
| 11:03.16 | drasko | well, after that it says it can not recognize interface |
| 11:03.38 | Guerin | drasko: then you have bigger problems. |
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| 11:03.42 | x-x-_ | it does not even exist |
| 11:03.47 | drasko | it is usb cable modem connected via usb |
| 11:03.51 | Guerin | haha |
| 11:03.56 | Guerin | good luck |
| 11:04.01 | drasko | how do you mean it do not exist? |
| 11:04.15 | Guerin | usb modems aren't real, they're fake |
| 11:04.23 | Guerin | and they mostly don't work on real OSen |
| 11:04.35 | mcgreg | hmmm drasko first check to what it is assign... maybe dmesg will help you there |
| 11:04.38 | drasko | How to make it work? |
| 11:04.40 | Eulex | !winmodem |
| 11:04.41 | dpkg | GPL driver and info can be found in http://www-124.ibm.com/acpmodem/ http://www.linmodems.org, or http://linux.nf/lesbell.htm or here is a black list of known to be winmodems: http://start.at/modem/ and http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html. See also: winmodem-trick, or a 3Com/USRobotics trademark, or see <slmodem> |
| 11:04.48 | x-x-_ | drasko: `ifconfig -a` |
| 11:04.48 | Guerin | drasko: depends on the specifics |
| 11:05.16 | Eulex | drasko, if it doesn't show up in ifconfig -a, you haven't got a driver loaded correctly for it. |
| 11:05.41 | x-x-_ | module :) |
| 11:05.54 | Eulex | yeah, driver == module |
| 11:06.01 | Guerin | ok, time to bounce |
| 11:06.03 | drasko | and what module is needed for this? |
| 11:06.14 | drasko | can i modprobe it? |
| 11:06.17 | x-x-_ | RinzeWind: google |
| 11:06.21 | x-x-_ | oops |
| 11:06.22 | x-x-_ | lol |
| 11:06.28 | x-x-_ | drasko: google |
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| 11:06.38 | SerajewelKS | this is showing up in my auth.log: 'Jan 22 05:50:01 localhost elinks: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "home.gateway.2wire.net IN AAAA", got type "A"' |
| 11:06.45 | SerajewelKS | how can i keep elinks from saying this |
| 11:06.58 | DJ-Marcuzz | could please someone help me with this raid problem, im really desparate |
| 11:06.59 | xoz | drasko: it would be better if you do a little bit of reading for pointblank asking questions here. |
| 11:07.23 | xoz | s/for/before |
| 11:07.28 | drasko | x-x-,no thank, I already had one for the brekfast :) |
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| 11:09.06 | SerajewelKS | drasko: use ethernet |
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| 11:09.44 | x-x-_ | drasko: i will lend you a hand: what model is the usb modem |
| 11:09.59 | croddy | DJ-Marcuzz: is it hw raid or software? what controller? were you using mdadm? what have you tried? what was the result? |
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| 11:10.08 | SerajewelKS | drasko: i cannot imagine a situation where you couldn't use ethernet unless the modem doesn't have an ethernet port. |
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| 11:10.33 | SerajewelKS | drasko: and "my other computer is using ethernet" doesn't count. get a router. |
| 11:10.35 | x-x-_ | now go find a pencil and paper(s) |
| 11:11.07 | x-x-_ | SerajewelKS: tell people to get different hardware is not always smart |
| 11:11.16 | drasko | SerajewelKS, just wanted to say that :) Other computer and no router... |
| 11:11.44 | crypt_ex | I have vim setup with autoindent and highlight colours for programming languages... this works for filename.pl, but I would like this to work for .cgi too, how can I get this setup for .cgi? |
| 11:11.45 | x-x-_ | drasko: just search "linux: your modem model" in google |
| 11:11.54 | SerajewelKS | drasko: a good router will give you many years of happiness. heck, if you can't get a router put another NIC in the debian box and buy a crossover.. use it as a router for the other box. |
| 11:12.02 | liable | whats a simple app for letting people post comments to web pages? |
| 11:12.04 | SerajewelKS | x-x-_: add "modprobe" to that query |
| 11:12.19 | SerajewelKS | liable: phpbb! |
| 11:12.19 | crypt_ex | liable, a guestbook? |
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| 11:12.37 | DJ-Marcuzz | croddy, its software raid |
| 11:12.45 | crypt_ex | liable, www.hotscripts.com |
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| 11:12.55 | liable | thanks. |
| 11:13.11 | DJ-Marcuzz | and when i do cfdisk on the drives that are in the array it can only read hdo, not hdi hdk hdm |
| 11:13.20 | mcgreg | indeed, getting a router definitely isnt a wrong choice |
| 11:13.38 | mcgreg | except you dont have a flat rate ;) |
| 11:13.52 | SerajewelKS | drasko: using USB will only give you many years of baldness and cussing. |
| 11:13.55 | croddy | DJ-Marcuzz: it sounds like some of the disk drives are not working properly. what kind of box are they plugged into? |
| 11:14.06 | croddy | DJ-Marcuzz: or the disk controller is failing somehow |
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| 11:14.29 | DJ-Marcuzz | it can read the other drives but says that they need an new partition table |
| 11:14.37 | SerajewelKS | drasko: USB has its uses. NIC emulation is *NOT* one of them. |
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| 11:15.23 | DJ-Marcuzz | they are on an hightpoint rocketraid 454 controller, but i use the controller ONLY as IDE Controller, not for the raid, i linux software raid for the raid 5 |
| 11:16.00 | shib | I've got some problem when installing Debian... When it has read in what language and what keybordlayout i wish to have, it all goes bluescreen with a gray spot below. Any ideas? |
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| 11:16.47 | azeem | shib: can you hit alt+f2 (or alt+f3) and see some error messages there? |
| 11:16.49 | croddy | DJ-Marcuzz: well, in that case, it sounds like there has been some data corruption in the partition table or the superblock or something. you need to talk to someone who is very knowledgeable about linux software raid -- i am not sure this is a debian specific problem |
| 11:16.57 | DJ-Marcuzz | after an power failure i booted the system and the arrays where resyncing, but i got an power failer under the resync, thats how it came so |
| 11:17.20 | croddy | ah |
| 11:17.59 | mcgreg | when I do kbd-config and choose a keyboard layout i get : Can't call method "i" on an undefined value at /usr/share/console/getkmapchoice.pl line 234, <STDIN> line 5. any tips? |
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| 11:18.19 | SerajewelKS | shib: this happens to me to. are you using 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? |
| 11:18.23 | DJ-Marcuzz | Server-FS1:/etc/mdadm# mdadm --assemble --force /dev/md0 |
| 11:18.23 | DJ-Marcuzz | mdadm: SET_ARRAY_INFO failed for /dev/md0: File exists |
| 11:18.23 | DJ-Marcuzz | Server-FS1:/etc/mdadm# |
| 11:18.30 | SerajewelKS | shib: on certain computers, that is |
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| 11:18.52 | shib | azaz_work: It comes up in a "To activate the consol, pls press enter". |
| 11:19.15 | shib | SerajewelKS: No clue, i'm doing a clean install with the newest dvd'es |
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| 11:19.51 | shib | Can it have anything to do with that im using a SATA disc and it perheps aint found it? |
| 11:20.08 | SerajewelKS | shib: on the console what does 'uname -r' say |
| 11:20.09 | Rawplayer | DO |
| 11:20.24 | SerajewelKS | shib: afaik the installer isn't doing disk probing by that point |
| 11:20.39 | shib | 2.4.27 - SerajewelKS |
| 11:20.44 | SerajewelKS | shib: plus this happens to me on certain setups with IDE.. i don't know what triggers it |
| 11:21.01 | SerajewelKS | shib: try using the 2.6 kernel.. reboot and type 'linux26' at the prompt instead of just hitting enter |
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| 11:22.57 | shib | SerajewelKS: loading stuff |
| 11:23.23 | shib | SerajewelKS: Now i come up in the menu with languages, i shall continue? |
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| 11:24.17 | SerajewelKS | shib: yes |
| 11:24.23 | SerajewelKS | shib: see if it makes it past that point |
| 11:24.54 | kristalino | is it a software for impaired vision people : you speak, and it's automaticaly converted into text |
| 11:25.24 | shib | SerajewelKS: Nothing changed, it's still the same |
| 11:25.30 | SerajewelKS | shib: hrm =/ |
| 11:26.20 | aeg | pls adv. what to read on setting dhcp client (i keeps scruwing up my resolv.conf) ? |
| 11:26.39 | shib | SerajewelKS: Let me guess, theres no way for me to make it through the install? :( |
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| 11:27.58 | x-x-_ | shib: try loading the sata module when you bootup |
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| 11:29.15 | shib | x-x-_: What exactly do you mean? (newbee), but it aint come to the part when it shall found the discs. |
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| 11:37.19 | frederik | hi all , iv got a problem with acx100 module , i installed the deb packages including the firmware , but now i get gcc-4.0 should be uname )r preempt 386 gcc-3.3 when inserting the module |
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| 11:37.30 | kingston | are there any known incompatibilities between Kingston data traveler pen drives and 2.6 kernels? My 256Mb usb is not recognized |
| 11:37.36 | frederik | i tried recompiling the kernel, but now it gives the error at boot to |
| 11:39.23 | kingston | dmesg complains when I plug my pendrive: attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 11:39.23 | kingston | sda: rw=0, want=1984980, limit=499712 |
| 11:39.23 | kingston | FAT: Directory bread(block 1984979) failed |
| 11:39.28 | frederik | anyone know what i should now ,pc is not booting up , it just hangs with that error |
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| 11:39.55 | kingston | in fact my usb is 256M but linux thinks it is 1.9Gb |
| 11:40.07 | kingston | any help? |
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| 11:41.28 | Kaigeek | #debian-admin |
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| 11:42.00 | sniperyyd | Kaigeek: maybe u want /join #debian-... :) |
| 11:42.11 | Kaigeek | :) |
| 11:42.49 | liable | frederik: boot your old kernel |
| 11:43.06 | liable | frederik: and remake the module with gcc-3.4 instead of 4.0 |
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| 11:45.25 | kingston | how can I make linux recognize the size of my pen-drive? it tries to mount a 1.9Gb while mine is 256Mb |
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| 11:46.04 | IvoVerberk | Hey Guys, how can I send a string (0xBE 0xEF 0x00 etc.) of hexadecimal numbers to the ttyS0 (com1) device ? |
| 11:46.22 | bbrazil | IvoVerberk: echo -e |
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| 11:50.11 | IvoVerberk | bbrazil : like so : echo -e "\xBE \xEF \xOO etc." > ttyS0 ? |
| 11:50.35 | bbrazil | IvoVerberk: without the spaces |
| 11:50.46 | IvoVerberk | sweet thank you! |
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| 11:51.13 | bbrazil | IvoVerberk: I think echo only does octal |
| 11:51.31 | Kaigeek | bbrazil, i am apt-get install dansguardian |
| 11:51.34 | IvoVerberk | ow hmm damn |
| 11:51.37 | Kaigeek | what is filtergroups? |
| 11:51.39 | bbrazil | IvoVerberk: actually, bash-echo does \x |
| 11:51.50 | Kaigeek | i am a user of squid. I introduce users with LDAP |
| 11:51.50 | Kaigeek | but Dansguardian can not identify these users. Due to |
| 11:51.50 | Kaigeek | this problem, I can not form filter groups. Doesn't |
| 11:51.50 | Kaigeek | Dansguradian support LDAP? or doesn't auth with |
| 11:51.50 | Kaigeek | squid? How can I introduce user names (id ) to |
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| 12:08.42 | tombs | please, how can I perform a memory test on a box without internet connection? |
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| 12:09.08 | vulture | why would memory testing require an internet connection... |
| 12:09.24 | vulture | burn a bootable memtest86 disk and use that |
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| 12:14.19 | tombs | vulture, thanx |
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| 12:16.04 | ejofee | what makes "captive ntfs" a solution which nobody seriously takes into account? |
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| 12:18.32 | Kaigeek | #debian-isp |
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| 12:22.12 | ootput | ejofee: it relies on windows dll ? |
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| 12:22.31 | Solid | guys how do i run an app inbackground? |
| 12:22.44 | streuner | app & |
| 12:22.49 | Solid | k |
| 12:22.56 | ejofee | ootput: it seems not. it says it's all... legal |
| 12:23.36 | ootput | for how long? |
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| 12:24.12 | ejofee | ootput: or maybe it does. i am not sure. |
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| 12:27.02 | BlackJudas | anyone have any success with acx? |
| 12:27.25 | Mazingaro | please, where could I find the sha1sum number for debian dvds??? |
| 12:28.16 | bbrazil | ejofee: it depends on windows dlls, and hence only works on i386 (and possibly x64) |
| 12:28.18 | ootput | Mazingaro: is md5sum insufficient? |
| 12:28.30 | Mazingaro | I don't know |
| 12:28.43 | Mazingaro | I need the original md5sum number... |
| 12:28.46 | ejofee | bbrazil: oh, i see. |
| 12:28.58 | ejofee | ootput: it is easy to fake |
| 12:29.09 | bbrazil | ejofee: similar logic applies to ati and nvidia drivers for example |
| 12:29.12 | ootput | well, barring the p.o.c |
| 12:29.33 | ejofee | ootput: some say very easy |
| 12:29.33 | ejofee | ootput: sah1sum seems to be much better |
| 12:30.06 | ejofee | what is the name of the debian version of captive-ntfs? i don't find it in any repo. |
| 12:30.23 | bbrazil | its probablt in non-free or contrib |
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| 12:32.48 | Nurbs | or not in debian at all |
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| 12:42.30 | Peterken | Hello all, i have next question: when i type passwd <username> i can change my password (he asks me the new one), is there a way to do it without asking? like giving it as a parameter? |
| 12:42.32 | niklas_ | hi, i was thinking of instead of burning cd-roms, that i could set my dhcp/fileserver up so that i could just put it on that and boot the cdrom via PXE boot |
| 12:42.55 | niklas_ | first question: is that reasonable? i don't know if im way off here... |
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| 12:43.21 | niklas_ | and second: can anyone point me to a good guide for configuring my dhcp server for pxe? |
| 12:43.43 | kingston | my linux kernel thinks my pendrive has 1.9Gb while it has 256Mb, how can I correct it? |
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| 12:45.06 | LKM-Starter | I want to write a kernel module but I always get this message: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Qc0IAF61.html - can anyone help me? thanks. |
| 12:45.24 | valdyn | LKM-Starter: wrong channel |
| 12:45.33 | LKM-Starter | k, sorry |
| 12:45.43 | LKM-Starter | Do you know where is the right one? |
| 12:45.50 | bbrazil | Peterken: expect |
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| 12:48.07 | Peterken | tnx bbrazil, that could work |
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| 12:51.25 | NiklasH_work | sorry if i'm posting this twice: had to switch IRC client... can anyone point me to a good primer for setting up a PXE server? |
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| 12:52.54 | ejofee | in which package should chkconfig be? |
| 12:53.00 | valdyn | !pxe |
| 12:53.00 | dpkg | pxe is, like, a network boot protocol. http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php |
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| 12:53.04 | valdyn | !tell ejofee -about search |
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| 12:55.29 | drmay | how can when a file is being accessed? |
| 12:55.43 | drmay | how can i log when a file is being accessed? |
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| 12:56.40 | ph8 | you could probably `watch lsof | grep filename` |
| 12:56.47 | ph8 | and pipe it to a logging program |
| 12:57.02 | ph8 | but you'd have to watch with a really small interval, not sure whether it'll be fast enough |
| 12:57.08 | bbrazil | drmay: I think there's some tracing that can be put in the kernel |
| 12:57.18 | ph8 | that would be better ;) |
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| 12:57.54 | drmay | my froblem is that i don't know if automount is reading my auto.removable file |
| 12:58.06 | bbrazil | ah, strace is what you want |
| 12:58.29 | drmay | strace? apt-get install strace? |
| 12:58.42 | drmay | thanks |
| 12:58.46 | williamh | hi all, I have just had a frantic cal from a client here (2am and a public holiday!!!) hey have deleteed a number of files on their webserver (as per usual no backup). is there an undelete/recover function of application for EXT3? |
| 12:59.06 | ootput | do any of you podcatch? |
| 13:00.25 | bbrazil | williamh: not really, you could manually alter the FS, if you're luck it won't have been overwritten (there's some tool for it) |
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| 13:01.10 | williamh | bbrazil thanks I will keep Googling not looking good though! |
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| 13:02.03 | bbrazil | williamh: e2undel |
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| 13:02.21 | williamh | bbrazil is that for EXT3 too? |
| 13:02.33 | bbrazil | williamh: no actually - which is suprising |
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| 13:03.12 | bbrazil | williamh: you could mount it as ext2 and try it |
| 13:03.14 | Kaigeek | hi |
| 13:03.20 | Kaigeek | how are you channel ?_ |
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| 13:07.03 | williamh | bbrazil I have got them to leave alone and I will check out in the morning I am too tired :) |
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| 13:08.47 | HugLeo | what is x-windows? |
| 13:09.04 | azeem | the windowing system used by GNU/Linux |
| 13:09.16 | susperia | x-windows is the wrong term |
| 13:09.19 | azeem | it is the glue between your graphics card, and your desktop applications |
| 13:09.27 | susperia | its X.org or Xfree86 or just X |
| 13:09.33 | bbrazil | williamh: if practical, mount the fs ro |
| 13:10.54 | williamh | bbrazilI shall do that I will get teh disk out of the machine into another one and see what I can extract |
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| 13:12.31 | HugLeo | susperia, Is functionary in gnome or kde and X.org or Xfree86? |
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| 13:13.49 | williamh | thanks |
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| 13:16.24 | HugLeo | thanks |
| 13:17.27 | markit | there is something wrong with samba 3.0.21a-2 8debian sid), I had to revert back to 3.0.21a-1, now lookit ad google for further info, but apt-listbugs did not warned at all |
| 13:18.46 | bbrazil | markit: then file a bug |
| 13:20.30 | HugLeo | bbrazil, ae :] |
| 13:20.31 | markit | can anyone confirm the issue? I can't access the shared folder anymore with the xxx-2 version, it asks for a username and passwords, like it has no ability to retrieve and validate the right one provided by Win2K login |
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| 13:21.09 | ugenka | is there any faq about x.org opacity in debian? |
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| 13:25.57 | markit | bbrazil: searching in the but database for samba 3.0.21a-2 I get this message: |
| 13:26.01 | markit | "No maintainer for samba 3.0.21a-2. Please do not report new bugs against this package." |
| 13:26.19 | markit | any idea? |
| 13:26.34 | EdLin | !any ideas? |
| 13:26.34 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of ground beef, a little thermal paste, and 42 starving bunnies. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few hours! |
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| 13:30.44 | bbrazil | markit: I don't know enough about the bts to answer that |
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| 13:31.21 | Kev111 | kann mir jemand helfen, der deutsch kann? |
| 13:31.26 | bbrazil | !de |
| 13:31.26 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
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| 13:38.03 | monde | hey |
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| 13:39.41 | Alcopoco | Hey i was wondering if anyone knows how to echo coloured text in SSH? |
| 13:40.16 | monde | Where can I configure my X so I can use 1024x768 ? I have it on my list but when I pick 1024x768 I have 3 desktops at the same time.. (useing a IBM A31 laptop) |
| 13:40.41 | azeem | monde: what do you mean with "3 desktops at the same time"? |
| 13:41.19 | asg | Alcopoco: same way you would in a regular console or term |
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| 13:41.46 | monde | well... It seems like it not will scale my 800x600 desktop out.. |
| 13:42.18 | azeem | monde: can you put up a screenshot somewhere maybe? |
| 13:42.25 | azeem | I do not understand your issue |
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| 13:42.59 | monde | I will try :) |
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| 13:43.10 | valdyn | monde: man XF86Config-4, search DisplaySize |
| 13:43.24 | valdyn | monde: ops, no, sec |
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| 13:43.30 | Alcopoco | asg what do you mean? What is the colour code command? |
| 13:43.32 | asg | valdyn: PanelSize iirc |
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| 13:43.54 | valdyn | monde: search Virtual |
| 13:44.01 | asg | Alcopoco: I always cheat and use perl's Term::ANSIColor package. You could use ansi escape sequences also though. |
| 13:44.09 | monde | okay, I will tr that, and thanks |
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| 13:46.16 | Alcopoco | Will check it out thanks asg. |
| 13:47.38 | Alcopoco | asg I've installed that module what's the next step :D |
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| 13:48.16 | susperia | damn no vexim in apt |
| 13:48.40 | ciphergoth | Can the Debian installer resize NTFS filesystems, or do I need PartitionMagic for that? |
| 13:49.09 | asg | Alcopoco: read the manpage Term::ANSIColor(3perl) examples are at the top |
| 13:49.35 | susperia | just out of curiosity, which MTA do you people prefer? |
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| 13:49.57 | asg | susperia: it depends on usage. I prefer exim if I have to do really odd stuff. |
| 13:50.03 | ciphergoth | susperia: exim has done a lot for me |
| 13:50.19 | Bombo | hi |
| 13:50.28 | susperia | cool cool. i was hoping someone said qmail... so i coudl have an excuse to use qmail :P |
| 13:50.34 | Bombo | how do i install openoffice.org 2.0 in debian/sarge? |
| 13:50.50 | ciphergoth | I'm ordering a new laptop from Dell, and I want to dual boot Debian and XP - I want to work out what partitioning I should ask Dell for, or if I should do it myself? |
| 13:50.53 | asg | susperia: you can use qmail if you want. |
| 13:51.01 | ciphergoth | qmail is non-free and very quirky |
| 13:51.04 | Bombo | apt-get install openoffice.org shows me openoffice.org is already the newest version. and that is 1.1.3 |
| 13:51.09 | ciphergoth | it's no longer the fastest either |
| 13:51.14 | ciphergoth | Bombo: backports.org |
| 13:51.36 | susperia | ciphergoth i get that indeed. Im just not having much joy in getting some kind of smtp auth going with exim4 |
| 13:51.39 | asg | susperia: if you like the architecture of qmail, look at postfix since they are similar. |
| 13:51.51 | susperia | asg ok. i will thanks. |
| 13:51.56 | ciphergoth | I've got smtp auth going with exim 4 |
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| 13:52.04 | ciphergoth | I use it all the time |
| 13:52.38 | susperia | ciphergoth mind sharing which methods you use, and how you achieved it ? (if you will please) |
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| 13:52.57 | Bombo | ciphergoth: ah! thx |
| 13:54.06 | ciphergoth | sure - I used sasl |
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| 13:54.55 | susperia | ciphergoth thanks, ill look into that as a last resort. |
| 13:54.57 | ciphergoth | I'm afraid I can't really remember the details, I did it a while back |
| 13:55.02 | ciphergoth | why as a last resort? |
| 13:55.04 | ciphergoth | as |
| 13:55.17 | ciphergoth | sasl makes sense - otherwise exim has to be root to read shadow passwords |
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| 13:55.24 | susperia | ive tried pop before smtp, and using passwd file |
| 13:55.36 | susperia | yes true. im gonna go research sasl a bit. thanks |
| 13:55.37 | ciphergoth | better to have a separate password verification service for separation of privilege |
| 13:55.54 | ciphergoth | pop-before-smtp is a hack. SASL is probably the most elegant solution. |
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| 13:56.18 | asg | susperia: iirc, there was a good article re: exim4 and smtp-auth at debian-administration.org |
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| 13:56.20 | ciphergoth | just wish someone here had made a dual-boot XP/Debian system recently... |
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| 13:56.45 | asg | ciphergoth: I have a triple boot Debian/FreeBSD/XP laptop. |
| 13:56.55 | susperia | asg you know, its odd. i had smtp auth working, but im not sure about update-exim4.conf.conf because, |
| 13:57.19 | susperia | once it actually authenticates, it still relays as well. and if you specify relay_nets='' it doesnt relay at all |
| 13:57.20 | ciphergoth | I use multiple control files |
| 13:57.38 | susperia | so maybe my problem is with the dis/allowing of relay in exim |
| 13:58.02 | jcmasters | The whole exim4 scripts on Debian are a /really/ bad idea. We had a chat in a bar about this last weekend and all those present agreed the first thing we do is rip that out. |
| 13:58.52 | susperia | jcmasters amen to that. |
| 13:58.53 | jcmasters | exim3 was so easy to manage. exim4 is fine if it's done the exim way, not the Debian "let's try to be different" way :-) |
| 13:59.01 | asg | jcmasters: well, if you just stick an exim4.conf or exim.conf in /etc/exim4, the system will completely disregard the conf.d/ stuff |
| 13:59.13 | jcmasters | asg: Which it should do from the outset :-) |
| 13:59.31 | susperia | asg really ? |
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| 13:59.37 | susperia | mmmm maybe i should just go that way. |
| 13:59.49 | jcmasters | Then there's the issue that if you tell the Debian config scripts that you /don't/ want a conf.d it'll still use one. |
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| 14:00.12 | asg | jcmasters: perhaps, the options are clearly documented in /usr/share/doc/exim4-config |
| 14:00.24 | ciphergoth | what's bad about the Debian exim system? |
| 14:00.33 | ciphergoth | asg - how did you resize your XP partition? |
| 14:00.50 | jcmasters | When I had to deal with it, I just wanted exim to be exim, not a weird Debianised config system written around it. |
| 14:01.04 | ciphergoth | jcmasters: why? |
| 14:01.16 | jcmasters | ciphergoth: Because I prefer not having to immediately remove that. |
| 14:01.24 | asg | ciphergoth: I just started from scratch |
| 14:02.13 | ciphergoth | it's up to you, but the system is there for a reason. The need for both you and the system to be able to update the configuration without getting in each others way |
| 14:02.34 | ciphergoth | often significantly changes the way packages are configured, with the result that the Debian version is quite different from the vanilla one |
| 14:02.38 | ciphergoth | it's not done just to annoy. |
| 14:02.39 | jcmasters | ciphergoth: It's a config file. It shouldn't be touching it in any case. |
| 14:02.44 | asg | ciphergoth: however, XP (or maybe its the Pro version only) has a CLI partition resizing tool that's undocumented. |
| 14:03.02 | ciphergoth | asg: can it resize live partitions? |
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| 14:03.26 | asg | ciphergoth: yes, at least the version I had did. It was long ago though so YMMV. |
| 14:03.36 | ciphergoth | jcmasters: Debian is constantly touching config files. It installs them in the first place, and it updates them when it updates packages. |
| 14:03.50 | ciphergoth | It's a key part of the Debian way. |
| 14:04.10 | jcmasters | ciphergoth: Thanks. I know this. Let me rephrase then: Debian shouldn't be rewriting my exim config files from underneath me. |
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| 14:04.52 | ciphergoth | It won't rewrite the bits you've modified without asking - that's the beauty of the multi-file system. |
| 14:05.02 | jcmasters | I install a server, I keep it on a particular Debian release (e.g. sarge). I update it with security updates from time to time. I only update exim when I want to. I should not need an automated script system for exim :-) |
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| 14:05.18 | ciphergoth | My changes to support SMTP auth stay in place, while fixes for the bits I've never looked at arrive automatically. |
| 14:05.27 | ciphergoth | I think it's a great innovation. |
| 14:05.30 | OldakQuill | Could anyone suggest why my laptop is no longer getting DHCPOFFERS? |
| 14:05.37 | OldakQuill | I just reset my router and everything |
| 14:05.39 | jcmasters | It's great, until you've got dependencies between files. |
| 14:05.53 | susperia | heh. all valid comment i guess. |
| 14:06.00 | asg | OldakQuill: did you change anything on your laptop? did you build a custom kernel? |
| 14:06.10 | susperia | dovecot or courier? |
| 14:06.27 | asg | susperia: I like the former though the latter is more mature. |
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| 14:07.33 | jcmasters | The other guys using the exim4 server in question are starting to get more anti-Debian because of things like that those scripts. |
| 14:07.56 | ciphergoth | susperia: dovecot |
| 14:08.00 | ciphergoth | no question |
| 14:09.11 | OldakQuill | asg: Nope, I apt-get upgraded after not doing it for a while |
| 14:09.20 | Guerin | courier is fine once you get it running, but it's a complete bastard to set up |
| 14:09.41 | asg | OldakQuill: what debian version are you running? |
| 14:09.59 | jcmasters | One thing I would like Debian's exim scripts to be able to do is to regenerate dbm files of virtual domains, etc. But it doesn't do that either. It's useless :-) |
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| 14:10.51 | OldakQuill | Testing |
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| 14:13.38 | amee2k | any opinions about silky? |
| 14:13.52 | Bombo | * openoffice.org-base depends on java-gcj-compat [UNAVAILABLE] | j2re1.4 [UNAVAILABLE] | java2-runtime [UNAVAILABLE] |
| 14:14.10 | Bombo | hmmm isnt it possible to install openoffice.org 2.0 without java? |
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| 14:14.54 | asg | Bombo: just build a java package with the 'java-package' tool (/msg dpkg java-package) |
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| 14:15.46 | Bombo | asg and if i dont want to install java? |
| 14:15.54 | Bombo | ..i can't use openoffice? |
| 14:16.02 | Bombo | (2.0) |
| 14:16.39 | asg | Bombo: iirc, java is now required ofr OO. #debian-oo might know different though. |
| 14:16.43 | Rawplayer | how can i put messages what are in /var/log/messages put in different files? |
| 14:16.44 | asg | *for |
| 14:16.51 | Rawplayer | with syslog |
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| 14:17.05 | azeem | Rawplayer: syslog has a configuration file |
| 14:17.06 | asg | Rawplayer: man syslog.conf |
| 14:17.14 | Rawplayer | i understand |
| 14:17.24 | asg | Rawplayer: also, syslog-ng provides more fine grained log routing if standard syslog doesn't. |
| 14:17.27 | Rawplayer | normal you would say kern.* /var/log/kern.log |
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| 14:17.54 | Rawplayer | but i have the cmdline from bash logged into /var/log/messages |
| 14:18.06 | Rawplayer | and i dont know what i should define in /etc/syslog.conf to put it in seperate files |
| 14:18.22 | asg | Rawplayer: are you running snoop or something? |
| 14:18.23 | CosmoDad | using a Java SDK package, is there an official place in the file-system where to put java addons (like JUnit) ? |
| 14:18.31 | Rawplayer | no |
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| 14:18.41 | Bombo | asg: ok i'll ask there |
| 14:18.53 | Rawplayer | i have patched bash |
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| 14:19.06 | Rawplayer | with perassi patch |
| 14:19.18 | Rawplayer | now every keystroke gets to a remote syslog server |
| 14:19.26 | Rawplayer | in /var/log/messages |
| 14:19.27 | asg | Rawplayer: well, you'll have to find a patch that allows you to change the facility (to local0 - local6) and redirect with that or just use syslog-ng to do it. |
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| 14:20.50 | asg | Rawplayer: and since you are logging keystrokes to a remote server, you would be better off using syslog-ng to tunnel messages via stunnel over tcp; people routinely accidentally type their password in cleartext by accident in the shell and you don't want that going unencrypted over the wire. |
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| 14:21.30 | Rawplayer | asg: its local in my lan |
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| 14:21.36 | Rawplayer | not over a public network |
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| 14:22.44 | diana | How can I start my login manager from a terminal? |
| 14:22.55 | asg | diana: /etc/init.d/<whatever dm> start |
| 14:23.02 | diana | thanks asg |
| 14:23.07 | ugenka | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:23.12 | azeem | drive-by #debianing |
| 14:23.21 | asg | azeem: indeed, quick and to the point :) |
| 14:24.01 | Rawplayer | asg: i'am read strace output for that proces |
| 14:24.21 | Rawplayer | and try to get something from that output into syslog.conf |
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| 14:27.11 | ravn | anyone can say anything enlightning regarding fonts and Debain? Especialy on how to reach fints in Inkscape. |
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| 14:27.33 | tdn | I have made a virtual host for subversion/webdav using ssl and it should work just fine. My simple configuration is here: http://pastebin.com/516889. When I get / the server gives me a 404 / not found, but it logs "File does not exist: /htdocs". Do you know what can be wrong? I can't see it. I can't figure out why it looks for "/htdocs" this file is not mentioned in my configuration at all! |
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| 14:30.55 | Guerin | tdn: #apache might be more help |
| 14:31.47 | tdn | Guerin, I have tried, but got no help in there. I have even tried setting the apache log level to debug, and I still don't see why it tries to get "/htdocs". |
| 14:31.51 | susperia | i might be an idiot here, but aptitude dependencies is fighting here over postfix/exim |
| 14:32.01 | susperia | its like you can NOT have postfix in debian |
| 14:32.05 | susperia | cause everything else breaks |
| 14:32.06 | asg | susperia: you can't have both |
| 14:32.21 | asg | susperia: if you install postfix, it will remove exim |
| 14:32.21 | susperia | asg but if i remove exim, mysql-server wants off as well :P |
| 14:32.35 | tdn | susperia, exim is removed during postfix install. |
| 14:32.39 | asg | susperia: no, mysql-server should only need mail-transport-agent which is provided by both exim and postfix |
| 14:32.53 | susperia | ok thanks... so i was an idiot after all |
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| 14:34.28 | Guerin | tdn: rgrep "/htdocs" /etc/apache2/* |
| 14:34.38 | Guerin | perhaps it's being hauled in from elsewhere |
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| 14:35.00 | sherdog | Hello gents. Im just bought a new HD, and want to partioning it for linux. Does anyone have a link for prober size of boot, swap etc? |
| 14:35.19 | asg | sherdog: the installation manual has several suggested layouts |
| 14:35.29 | tdn | Guerin, I have already done that. That is why I can safely say, that "/htdocs" is never mentioned in my configuration. |
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| 14:35.42 | sherdog | asg Sry, had only tried google.. I will tjek it out, thx |
| 14:35.47 | asg | tdn: grep -ilr htdocs /etc (see if that shows something) |
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| 14:36.28 | tdn | asg, it gives me the README file. |
| 14:36.55 | Guerin | tdn: and no configs being pulled in from oputside /etc? |
| 14:37.02 | Guerin | there shouldn't be, but you never know |
| 14:37.19 | tdn | Guerin, no. |
| 14:37.23 | Guerin | otherwise, the only thing I can think is that it's a hardcoded cirectory path, but that seems very stupid |
| 14:37.23 | asg | tdn: some packages have include stuff in /usr/share though those are usually symlinked via /etc |
| 14:37.50 | Guerin | i'm still Ludd enough to use apache1, so I don't know :) |
| 14:38.18 | asg | tdn: also, you might consider starting apache in foreground mode and strace it to see. |
| 14:38.41 | Bombo | hmmm what is the maximum filesize on an ext2 partition? |
| 14:38.52 | azeem | it's pretty big I think |
| 14:38.54 | sherdog | 20mb for boot, 800mb for swap. and rest for "other" does this sound about right? |
| 14:38.59 | tdn | asg, oh. That might be an idea. |
| 14:39.03 | asg | Bombo: several terabytes iirc. |
| 14:39.05 | tdn | asg, I'll try. Thanks. |
| 14:39.17 | asg | sherdog: you might want a little more for boot. |
| 14:39.44 | sherdog | asg Also If debian will be the only os? |
| 14:39.51 | Bombo | i just tried to copy a 4.5gb file to an ext2 partition and got an error |
| 14:39.51 | bobbens | sherdog: depends on what you use it for, but i'd suggest adding a partiton for /home |
| 14:40.06 | Bombo | after 4.1something gb |
| 14:40.31 | asg | sherdog: I usually do /boot / /home /var /usr /tmp on separate partitions and then leave some unpartitioned space for future expansion. |
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| 14:40.56 | crypt_ex | Any particular reason why this ssh public key isnt working? I have created the key using sshkey-gen -t rsa, and then copied the .pub file to the authorised_keys file... but it does not work still. Any suggestions? |
| 14:41.12 | asg | sherdog: if lots of customizations and odd packages are to be installed, I often have a separate /usr/local partition as well |
| 14:41.20 | xoz | sherdog: better not used a separate partition for the boot. use a separate partitionf for /home and /swap. |
| 14:41.21 | valdyn | crypt_ex: and what did you do with the private key? |
| 14:41.39 | crypt_ex | copy it over into the authorized_keys file |
| 14:41.44 | Bombo | oh crap it wasnt ext2 partition but fat32 that i was trying to copy to |
| 14:41.46 | Bombo | heh |
| 14:41.48 | asg | hah |
| 14:41.54 | sherdog | I will read a bit more.. Thank u all for your input |
| 14:41.58 | crypt_ex | valdyn, thats the id_rsa.pub file |
| 14:42.05 | xoz | crypt_ex: have you used a passphrase? |
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| 14:42.14 | valdyn | crypt_ex: .pub indicates public key |
| 14:42.20 | asg | crypt_ex: also, check the perms on the .ssh and authorized_keys file |
| 14:42.26 | valdyn | crypt_ex: i am asking about your generated private key |
| 14:42.55 | xoz | crypt_ex: are you using an empty password? |
| 14:42.56 | crypt_ex | valdyn, I have no idea about this private key, the docs I am reading from dont mention it either. |
| 14:43.03 | crypt_ex | xoz, nope |
| 14:43.37 | xoz | crypt_ex: try ssh-agent bash, within this bash, ssh-add, type your passphrase... ssh to a remote. |
| 14:43.41 | robin_sz | that was snot, actually. |
| 14:43.43 | valdyn | crypt_ex: private key decrypts, public key encrypts. Obviously a public key is useless without the private key to decrypt |
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| 14:43.59 | jetscreamer | ewww |
| 14:44.10 | crypt_ex | hmm....I need a private key then....looks for docs |
| 14:44.16 | xoz | valdyn: if he has a .pub, he must have its couterpart generated also. |
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| 14:44.33 | valdyn | xoz: yep, exactly, but he's obviously got no idea what he's doing |
| 14:45.03 | crypt_ex | lmao |
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| 14:45.12 | crypt_ex | wrong nick huh |
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| 14:45.17 | xoz | crypt_ex: you should have that. valdyn, he doesn't have to be aware about that. all he needs is to export the pub key... (for his problem) |
| 14:45.18 | asg | robin_sz: I took it to mean 'spouse now 6 feet under' |
| 14:45.18 | Cillian | is there some package I can install which will pull in all the X stuff? |
| 14:45.23 | Cillian | or do I need to get it all manually? |
| 14:45.28 | asg | Cillian: /msg dpkg set up x |
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| 14:45.33 | valdyn | crypt_ex: it should be named id_rsa |
| 14:45.38 | crypt_ex | xoz thats what it says in all the docs I have read, and check permissions |
| 14:45.58 | crypt_ex | valdyn, ah, yea thats here |
| 14:46.18 | asg | crypt_ex: also, /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 14:46.20 | Cillian | okay, thanks |
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| 14:46.27 | crypt_ex | ok |
| 14:46.35 | xoz | crypt_ex: if you use a passphrase, you need ssh-agent to manage it... and you have to enable forwardagent in /etc/ssh/ssh_config |
| 14:46.54 | robin_sz | mmmm |
| 14:46.58 | asg | xoz: ssh-agent is optional but helpful |
| 14:47.00 | robin_sz | not *quite* true |
| 14:47.15 | robin_sz | it ist required, but its useful as you say |
| 14:47.17 | xoz | crypt_ex: have you followed the steps? |
| 14:47.29 | xoz | asg: optional in what sense? |
| 14:47.41 | asg | xoz: you can type the passphrase everytime you login |
| 14:47.55 | robin_sz | asg: it just means you dont have to type in your passphrase everytime you log in |
| 14:48.07 | asg | robin_sz: exactly. Optional but helpful. |
| 14:48.09 | robin_sz | only the first time in this session |
| 14:48.11 | crypt_ex | xoz I have not even got to the stage where when I try and ssh, it asks for the passphrase rather than the password... |
| 14:48.20 | crypt_ex | it still asks for the password |
| 14:48.24 | xoz | asg: i am in the understanding that crypt_ex doesn't want to type passphrase everytime he logs in |
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| 14:48.43 | asg | xoz: the issue is that it isn't using PKI and just prompting for the password |
| 14:48.57 | robin_sz | crypt_ex: then try ssh -vvv <host> and watch what it does ... |
| 14:49.04 | asg | xoz: that indicates that the server or client doesn't like the key (permissions on .ssh/authorized_keys, etc.) |
| 14:49.14 | xoz | crypt_ex: when you generate the key, it should ask to enter a passphrase. did you skip it? |
| 14:49.20 | robin_sz | asg: thats only one possible reason |
| 14:49.26 | valdyn | !debug ssh |
| 14:49.33 | valdyn | !test |
| 14:49.33 | dpkg | Yes, valdyn, you're still online. |
| 14:49.33 | asg | !debug sshd |
| 14:49.33 | dpkg | To debug sshd (server), run this as root on the server: "/usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222". Then use "ssh -p 2222 username@servername" on the client. |
| 14:49.36 | crypt_ex | xoz, nope I entered a passphrase |
| 14:49.39 | asg | valdyn: you forgot the 'd' |
| 14:49.44 | valdyn | asg: thanks |
| 14:49.48 | crypt_ex | robin_sz,okay |
| 14:49.50 | asg | valdyn: :) I do that all the time too |
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| 14:50.43 | xoz | crypt_ex: try ssh-agent, then ssh-add. if its asks for a passphase and accepts your passphrase.. that means that it is working. |
| 14:50.52 | robin_sz | for the hard of understanding, there is always the "lushh" util in whatever package it is ... |
| 14:51.10 | xoz | crypt_ex: can you do that? |
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| 14:51.18 | pm_ | how can i know in which package the smbadduser app is in? |
| 14:51.27 | asg | pm_: /msg dpkg search |
| 14:51.40 | crypt_ex | xoz gonna try....had a problem as I stopped ssh |
| 14:52.07 | pm_ | \msg dpkg search |
| 14:52.09 | pm_ | ops |
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| 14:52.38 | xoz | crypt_ex: and enable PubkeyAuthentication yes in /etc/sshd_config of the remote. |
| 14:52.39 | valdyn | pm_: its called smbpasswd |
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| 14:53.08 | xoz | crypt_ex: try to check if the sshd in remote allows public key authentication |
| 14:53.09 | dvs | pusakat: What's new, pusakat |
| 14:53.42 | robin_sz | sigh |
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| 14:53.48 | crypt_ex | xoz, I am not sure about ssh-agent, have not read up on how to use this. ssh -vvv has got some useful information I am looking at. |
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| 14:54.07 | pm_ | valdyn i have this pkg, so to add an user in samba i need just a unix user and then a smbpasswd user ? |
| 14:54.32 | xoz | crypt_ex: make sure public key is allowed in the remote. if it does not allow, password is the next alternative. |
| 14:54.34 | valdyn | pm_: man smbpasswd |
| 14:54.42 | pm_ | ok |
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| 14:54.57 | xoz | crypt_ex: ok, ill stop because it seems you know what you're doing. good luck then. |
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| 14:56.19 | crypt_ex | xoz, yea, the pub key in the right place... will probably report back once Iooked further |
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| 14:56.49 | samo_ | hi all, i have two questions (i'm pretty new to debian) |
| 14:56.59 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 14:57.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 14:57.07 | crypt_ex | xoz, this is anoying because everything seems to be in the right place etc |
| 14:57.10 | samo_ | is it recommended or not recommended to have the usual user and root in the same group ? |
| 14:57.30 | robin_sz | samo_: depends which group |
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| 14:57.40 | samo_ | root as gid = 0 |
| 14:57.47 | samo_ | my usual user has a group id = 1000 |
| 14:57.58 | dvs | samo_: The only group my root is in is root |
| 14:57.59 | crypt_ex | looks like its habing problems sending id_dsa |
| 14:58.13 | samo_ | should they be in the same group or should it stay that way ? |
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| 14:58.27 | crypt_ex | debug3: no such identity: /home/luke/.ssh/identity |
| 14:58.29 | loxley | samo_: stay that way |
| 14:58.34 | xoz | crypt_ex: ssh-keygen -t dsa. better you generate dsa key also. |
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| 14:58.38 | samo_ | ok thanksm i see a lot of people online using comands like sudo mount .... |
| 14:58.53 | samo_ | sudo doesnt work for me, i always have to say su and then as root do the comand, how come ? |
| 14:58.55 | crypt_ex | okay |
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| 14:58.59 | xoz | crypt_ex: and export the id_dsa.pub to the remote |
| 14:59.09 | azeem | samo_: why doesn't it work? |
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| 14:59.21 | robin_sz | samo_: there is no reason why root should not be a memebr of soem otehr group (but probably pointless ..) .. normal user shoudl NOT be a member of the root group. |
| 14:59.32 | samo_ | ok thanks |
| 14:59.47 | samo_ | bash: sudo: command not found |
| 14:59.51 | robin_sz | use the sudo package if you want to let normal user do rooty things |
| 14:59.52 | azeem | samo_: eh |
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| 15:00.02 | azeem | samo_: you might have to apg-get |
| 15:00.03 | azeem | it |
| 15:00.04 | xoz | robin_sz: wheel group for root is very useful in some unix's |
| 15:00.06 | samo_ | ah ok, thanks |
| 15:00.11 | samo_ | one other thing |
| 15:00.13 | crypt_ex | xoz, that does not work either. |
| 15:00.15 | Hazel | my system freezes randomly using a recently installed etch with a kernel 2.6.15.1, madwifi drivers and latest nvidia drivers (i can reproduce it, but i cant solve it) |
| 15:00.21 | samo_ | when i have done a su cmd i become root in the konsole |
| 15:00.22 | Hazel | i think the problem is the nvidia driver.. but tried older kernel and nvidia driver and it still hangs up |
| 15:00.22 | robin_sz | xoz_: true .. |
| 15:00.28 | Hazel | now, im using vesa. And when i open xmms or mplayer it says segmentation fault |
| 15:00.28 | samo_ | if i try to use emacs lets say it says |
| 15:00.35 | xoz | crypt_ex: be clear about that |
| 15:00.35 | samo_ | emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
| 15:00.43 | diana | !tell samo_ about vi |
| 15:00.48 | azeem | diana: uhm |
| 15:00.48 | xoz | crypt_ex: still it asks for password? not passphrase? |
| 15:00.52 | treyh0 | is there a tool that can let me make my own custom debian cd with just the packages i want on it? |
| 15:00.54 | asg | !tell samo_ about run stuff as root |
| 15:01.03 | crypt_ex | xoz it asks for a password, not a passphrase. |
| 15:01.30 | xoz | crypt_ex: did you check if remote sshd_config allows public key? |
| 15:01.34 | HugLeo | If I use "make all", need I use "make" and "make install"? |
| 15:01.45 | crypt_ex | both dsa and rsa keys are now in authorized_keys file on remote |
| 15:01.48 | robin_sz | crypt_ex: guess, one system has an RSA pub/prive key, the other only accepts DSA? |
| 15:01.51 | treyh0 | nevermind dpkg told me |
| 15:01.53 | crypt_ex | Yes |
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| 15:02.01 | robin_sz | crypt_ex: well they shouldnt be in the same file |
| 15:02.03 | treyh0 | dpkg is my best friend |
| 15:02.06 | asg | HugLeo: it depends on the available targets in the Makefile. Generally, 'make install' takes care of things |
| 15:02.16 | xoz | crypt_ex: check if this is set in remote: RSAAuthentication yes |
| 15:02.17 | robin_sz | crypt_ex: dsa should be in auth keys 2 |
| 15:02.20 | crypt_ex | robin_sz, its a Fedora box with sshd, Debian box is client |
| 15:02.27 | mooseshapedfrog | Hi, I seem to lost sound on my laptop when I play any streams with alsaplayer can anyone help? It plays CDs etc fine |
| 15:02.30 | samo_ | got info from dpkg too, thanks a lot |
| 15:02.36 | robin_sz | crypt_ex: well, thats easy to fix ... |
| 15:02.43 | FifaFrazer | What program do i need to mount an external usb-hdd with ntfs filesystem, in debian ? |
| 15:02.50 | robin_sz | crypt_ex: do you happen to have the Sarge net install CD? |
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| 15:03.07 | asg | FifaFrazer: /msg dpkg usb-storage (and a kernel that supports NTFS) |
| 15:03.11 | crypt_ex | xoz thats in there yes, I uncommented earlier. |
| 15:03.19 | FifaFrazer | okay |
| 15:03.31 | crypt_ex | robin_sz, hehe, I know but its all remote and all. |
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| 15:03.44 | HugLeo | asg, Thanks |
| 15:03.52 | xoz | crypt_ex: paste in #flood ssh -v remote |
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| 15:04.30 | MacSlow | http://macslow.mine.nu/?p=28 |
| 15:04.47 | pm_ | even after i add the user teste, when i try to smbpasswd it i get: Failed to find entry for user teste. any one knows why? |
| 15:04.53 | xoz | crypt_ex: did you restart sshd in remote |
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| 15:05.32 | crypt_ex | xoz pasted |
| 15:05.34 | crypt_ex | xoz yes |
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| 15:06.08 | crypt_ex | xoz, what permissions should I have then? |
| 15:06.22 | yalu | how can I disable dma for cdrom drives during installation? bug 226057 says the ide=nodma boot option is broken... is there another way? |
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| 15:07.16 | xoz | crypt_ex: can you paste the output of ls -l .ssh/ in #flood |
| 15:07.33 | crypt_ex | xoz on server with sshd? |
| 15:07.40 | xoz | crypt_ex: in local |
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| 15:08.06 | Pedro420 | nvz: are you on? |
| 15:08.15 | yalu | nvm, found it on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerFAQ |
| 15:08.33 | xoz | crypt_ex: make sure also /etc/ssh/ssh_config allows RSA and pubkey auth similar to remote sshd_config |
| 15:09.09 | ejofee | what does abiword lack in order to be listed on a typical list of word processors? |
| 15:09.17 | asg | Pedro420: the question is not *whether* nvz is on but rather *what* nvz is on |
| 15:09.29 | xoz | crypt_ex: ok. you forgot to have authorized_keys in .ssh/ of remote |
| 15:09.35 | diana | ejofee: nothing |
| 15:09.35 | crypt_ex | xoz everything is commented, except RSAAuthentication yes |
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| 15:10.13 | crypt_ex | xoz, sorry I pasted then wrong terminal.... on remote, in #flood now. |
| 15:10.15 | xoz | crypt_ex: where is the authorized_keys file? |
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| 15:10.19 | ejofee | diana: then why are people so silly? |
| 15:10.25 | diana | ejofee: I use abiword instead of openoffice..runs awesome..spellchecker is great...and it's much smaller then oo and it shows in speed |
| 15:10.33 | ejofee | diana: or is it because it is not backed by companies |
| 15:10.45 | diana | openoffice is nice...but java is non-free and it's _large_ |
| 15:11.03 | diana | ejofee: Probably because it's not backed by companies. |
| 15:11.18 | diana | ejofee: abiword will never put down microsoft office... openoffice might. |
| 15:11.32 | diana | google and sun are giving oral to openoffice |
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| 15:12.39 | crypt_ex | xoz, ssh_config in #flood |
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| 15:13.14 | trc | do we have anything in debian that would create notes for the ringtone composer. I'm trying to create the old phone ring, but I am not a musician |
| 15:13.30 | yalu | can anyone take a look on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerFAQ question 23, ans tell me how it comes that after entering "using_dma:0" >/dev/ide/hdc/settings the content of that file remain the same, but suddenly the cdrom drive works? |
| 15:14.13 | xoz | crypt_ex: make sure: PubkeyAuthentication yes is enabled both in ssh_config (local) and sshd_config (remote) |
| 15:15.03 | asg | yalu: maybe because it was 'using_dma:1' before? |
| 15:15.10 | kspath | yalu: read about devices. your name is yellow? |
| 15:15.17 | xoz | crypt_ex: comment out, Host * in ssh_config |
| 15:15.57 | crypt_ex | Done, but still asking for password :S |
| 15:15.58 | xoz | crypt_ex: err, no need for PubkeyAuth... yes in local |
| 15:16.14 | crypt_ex | xoz, will remove that then, as I added it |
| 15:16.21 | raf256 | apache2-mod-php4 is needed to run php4 scripts from apache2 server I suppose? |
| 15:16.27 | xoz | crypt_ex: did you restart remote? /etc/init.d/ssh stop... then start |
| 15:16.31 | yalu | kspath: uhh..; yellow?? |
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| 15:16.36 | asg | raf256: libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 15:16.46 | raf256 | asg: yes, that one. is it needed? |
| 15:16.48 | xoz | crypt_ex: no.... /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 15:16.54 | crypt_ex | xoz lol |
| 15:16.57 | crypt_ex | Yea, done that |
| 15:16.57 | xoz | crypt_ex: dont stop and start |
| 15:16.58 | asg | raf256: yes unless you want to invoke php via fast cgi. |
| 15:17.02 | raf256 | because ther seem to be no version of it for apache 2.0.55 and .54 have a bug |
| 15:17.04 | crypt_ex | xoz sshd |
| 15:17.05 | yalu | asg: the opposit I think, but it wasn't reflected in the contents of that file |
| 15:17.14 | raf256 | crypt_ex: hi |
| 15:17.19 | crypt_ex | raf256, Hi |
| 15:17.36 | raf256 | well I hope there will gix .55 mod for php4 soon |
| 15:17.41 | asg | yalu: hmmm, dunno then. At least it works for you now. |
| 15:18.11 | xoz | crypt_ex: /etc/init.d/ssh restart -> for sshd |
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| 15:18.12 | yalu | asg: yes. and long live wikis. people stuff them full of useful information :-) |
| 15:18.13 | crypt_ex | xoz, shall I rm .ssh/* and start again? |
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| 15:18.17 | asg | yalu: we try |
| 15:18.23 | crypt_ex | xoz, yea done that |
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| 15:18.48 | yalu | I suppose I have to add hdc=nodma to my boot options after installation or something, or put that cat command somewhere in a boot script, or use hdparm |
| 15:18.49 | xoz | crypt_ex: yea, maybe restart... and copy dsa/rsa.pub to authorized_keys of remote. |
| 15:18.59 | crypt_ex | will do that |
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| 15:19.21 | asg | yalu: maybe, see if it works after installation without any modification. |
| 15:19.24 | djp | why do i receive a warning message saying something along the lines of "unable to save to !viminfo" when i run sudo vim foo.txt" for example? |
| 15:19.49 | djp | vim foo.txt is fine by the way |
| 15:19.56 | asg | djp: try sudo -H vim foo.txt |
| 15:20.30 | djp | asg, this has only just started to happen since the sudo security update i think |
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| 15:20.42 | asg | djp: ah |
| 15:21.17 | jetscreamer | djp what version (testing/etch?) |
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| 15:21.23 | jetscreamer | just curious |
| 15:21.28 | djp | asg, yes that works fine |
| 15:21.30 | robin_sz | argh. fscking mambo |
| 15:21.40 | djp | jetscreamer, stable/sarge |
| 15:21.57 | jetscreamer | ahhh. i was curious where that update had just gotten to |
| 15:22.06 | robin_sz | why does it just give "2" as an error huh? |
| 15:22.11 | jetscreamer | i remember it in sid a few/couple months ago i think |
| 15:22.21 | crypt_ex | xoz, I removed the .ssh file, and then started a fresh connection and got this error: The authenticity of host 'untaken (192.168.1.1)' can't be established. Do you want to continue? |
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| 15:22.37 | jetscreamer | tell it yes crypt_ex unless you don't want to |
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| 15:23.03 | djp | asg, is it better to run sudo vim with the -H switch then? |
| 15:23.15 | xoz | crypt_ex: continue |
| 15:23.16 | jetscreamer | what's up with that visudo thingy |
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| 15:23.27 | crypt_ex | jetscreamer, having problems setting up the authentication keys though |
| 15:23.35 | xoz | crypt_ex: did you generated the keys? |
| 15:23.39 | jetscreamer | doesn't it say 'you MUST use visudo' |
| 15:23.53 | jetscreamer | not that i could ever tell that i 'must' |
| 15:23.57 | asg | djp: it just makes sure that /root is the HOME when you are doing rootly things. Otherwise, it will use the user's HOME. |
| 15:24.03 | crypt_ex | yes xoz, still asking for password and not passphrase. |
| 15:24.18 | xoz | crypt_ex: can you try ssh localhost? |
| 15:24.41 | crypt_ex | xoz The authenticity of host 'localhost (127.0.0.1)' can't be established. |
| 15:24.53 | _shad_ | Can someone help me debug a mysql-server deb pre-installation script problem? |
| 15:24.54 | crypt_ex | xoz localhost then ask password |
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| 15:25.10 | asg | _shad_: what debian version? |
| 15:25.15 | _shad_ | asg: unstable |
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| 15:25.21 | Osiqes | hi |
| 15:25.22 | asg | _shad_: check the bts first |
| 15:25.23 | djp | asg, thanks |
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| 15:25.25 | xoz | crypt_ex: what debian flavor are you using? sid? |
| 15:25.26 | asg | djp: you're welcome |
| 15:25.29 | Osiqes | somebody can hel me with a problem in permissions ? |
| 15:25.34 | crypt_ex | xoz Sarge stable |
| 15:25.40 | Osiqes | when I logged in my system with a normal user I obtain |
| 15:25.46 | Osiqes | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.55 | Osiqes | I think that the problem can be in the pam |
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| 15:25.58 | _shad_ | asg: I checked already and didn't see anything |
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| 15:26.16 | xoz | crypt_ex: can you summarize how you generated the keys? ill check if you have skipped some steps. |
| 15:26.23 | asg | _shad_: then file a bug and start hacking /var/lib/dpkg/info/<pkg>.preinst |
| 15:26.47 | wethion | Hrm, anyone heard of wifi-radar? It's a GTK tool for searching and configuring wireless connections. Apparently Ubuntu has it and we don't. |
| 15:26.50 | xoz | crypt_ex: tell me all the steps from key generation up to accessing remote |
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| 15:26.56 | KerPlunk | !tell _shad_ about reportbug |
| 15:27.06 | crypt_ex | xoz I execute sshkey-gen -t rsa, then leave the default file (hit enter), then enter a passphrase |
| 15:27.06 | _shad_ | asg: it doesn't even put anUnpacking mysql-server-5.0 (from mysql-server-5.0_5.0.18-7_i386.deb) ... |
| 15:27.06 | _shad_ | dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0_5.0.18-7_i386.deb (--install): |
| 15:27.07 | _shad_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.07 | _shad_ | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 15:27.07 | _shad_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:27.23 | _shad_ | Gah. sorry. |
| 15:27.26 | KerPlunk | !tell _shad_ about paste |
| 15:27.35 | _shad_ | KerPlunk: didn't mean to do that... |
| 15:27.42 | xoz | crypt_ex: did you cp id_rsa.pub to the other side? |
| 15:27.46 | crypt_ex | xoz, then I open up id_rsa.pub, copy all the text in there and paste that straight into the authorized_keys on remote. |
| 15:28.04 | crypt_ex | xoz yea, I have copied this through different means. |
| 15:28.15 | crypt_ex | three different ways |
| 15:28.16 | pm_ | how can i add the user lala to the group lala_users? |
| 15:28.32 | _shad_ | asg: It doesn't seem to extract the files for me to check. I extracted the preinst and ran it, and it didn't have any issues. |
| 15:28.51 | crypt_ex | pm_, man adduser |
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| 15:29.00 | xoz | crypt_ex: try ssh-copy-id |
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| 15:29.09 | jetscreamer | adduser user group |
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| 15:29.13 | crypt_ex | pm_, or either /etc/groups |
| 15:29.17 | pm_ | thanks |
| 15:29.20 | jeanseb | hello, I am missing the following package: alocal-1.6. Where can I get it? Thanks |
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| 15:29.40 | crypt_ex | ssh-copy-id? thats a new one |
| 15:29.49 | jetscreamer | !find alocal |
| 15:29.54 | xoz | crypt_ex: ssh-copy-id remote |
| 15:29.58 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'alocal' (1): (/usr/share/doc/sbcl-common/html/sbcl/Class-sb_002dbsd_002dsockets_003alocal_002dsocket.html) in devel/sbcl-common. |
| 15:30.03 | xoz | crypt_ex: just do it!!! hehe |
| 15:30.03 | zebalin4 | Anyone have a problem with FreeSans font after upgrade to kde 3.5? Font gives me an extra line making things look doublespaced? |
| 15:30.05 | yalu | I have tried half a ton of distributions on this computer in the last week, up to now Debian is the only thing that installed properly |
| 15:30.58 | crypt_ex | xoz that reports The agent has no identities. in authorized_keys |
| 15:31.34 | asg | !tell anapivirtua about away |
| 15:31.41 | crypt_ex | xoz does not copy the public key, but only those text. Am I missing a identity file or something? |
| 15:32.02 | jeanseb | sorry: aclocal |
| 15:32.22 | xoz | crypt_ex: try type: ssh-agen bash, then type ssh-add. enter passphrase. |
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| 15:32.54 | xoz | crypt_ex: err, ssh-agent bash |
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| 15:33.04 | asg | _shad_: see if 'apt-get -f install' fixes things |
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| 15:33.34 | _shad_ | asg: it gives the error message I accidentally pasted |
| 15:33.44 | ico2_ | when will packages.debian.org be back up? |
| 15:33.48 | crypt_ex | xoz, thats added it now. |
| 15:34.11 | xoz | crypt_ex: now, within that shell, do ssh-copy-id remote |
| 15:34.32 | xoz | _shad_: try dpkg --pending --configure |
| 15:35.19 | _shad_ | xoz: it just exits back to the shell.. Re-ran the apt-get -f install, same error. |
| 15:35.40 | crypt_ex | xoz thats added it. |
| 15:35.48 | _shad_ | I used alien to convert it to a tgz, extracted the preinst, and ran it. It did not give me any errors though |
| 15:35.50 | asg | _shad_: well http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=349258 is the bug in question. |
| 15:36.16 | xoz | _shad_: better to remove /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package.*> and wait for it to corrected n the next update |
| 15:36.30 | jetscreamer | ico2_: it's been a while already so i wouldn't hold your breath |
| 15:36.39 | jetscreamer | se if you can help somehow |
| 15:36.41 | jetscreamer | see |
| 15:36.46 | xoz | _shad_: or rm those files and install again... |
| 15:36.50 | ico2_ | jetscreamer: it was down, then it was up again, then down |
| 15:36.52 | crypt_ex | xoz, but still asks for the damn password then I try ssh hostname |
| 15:37.04 | ciphergoth | incidentally, if anyone else needs to know what I needed to know when I arrived, it seems that the Sarge installer ships with an NTFS partition resizer, so you don't have to download anything special to resize your NTFS partitions in order to install Debian. |
| 15:37.09 | jetscreamer | allIno |
| 15:37.33 | xoz | crypt_ex: ssh-copy-id will ask for the password. that's expected... the purpose is to copy your identity to remote. |
| 15:37.40 | azeem | ciphergoth: yes |
| 15:37.43 | _shad_ | asd: That's weird. That is the error. I did a search for mysql-server on bugs.debian.org and that one wasn't in the list. How did you find it/ |
| 15:37.55 | xoz | crypt_ex: did it say that your identity was copied? |
| 15:38.03 | crypt_ex | xoz, yea, it copied it! |
| 15:38.17 | xoz | crypt_ex: ok, now... logout remote and ssh back again. |
| 15:38.18 | crypt_ex | the public key into authorized_key |
| 15:38.20 | crypt_ex | keys |
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| 15:38.32 | crypt_ex | xoz, tried and it still dont work! |
| 15:38.43 | crypt_ex | Have restarted ssh too :S |
| 15:39.06 | stouset | crypt_ex: Did you reverse the polarity, or cross the streams? |
| 15:39.15 | xoz | crypt_ex: i give up... check the configs in /etc/ssh/ in both server and local. or update your ssh. |
| 15:39.22 | asg | _shad_: I just went to bugs.debian.org/mysql-server-5.0 |
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| 15:39.39 | asg | _shad_: if you know the package name, that's the easiest way to get the buglist |
| 15:39.40 | _shad_ | asg: Ah, good to know. Thanks |
| 15:39.44 | asg | _shad_: you're welcome |
| 15:39.49 | crypt_ex | stouset, you what? |
| 15:40.04 | _shad_ | asg: Any way that I can help to debug what the actual cause is? |
| 15:40.15 | crypt_ex | xoz, thanks for all the help....like you said, think its time to recompile sshd on the fedora box |
| 15:40.32 | xoz | crypt_ex: wtf, it's fedora server? |
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| 15:40.43 | asg | _shad_: you could run 'strace -o tracefile dpkg -i <pkg>' and see where the failure is occuring |
| 15:40.48 | crypt_ex | xoz, yea I said earlier? |
| 15:40.52 | _shad_ | asg: will do |
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| 15:40.57 | crypt_ex | xoz, this is a Debian Client |
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| 15:41.40 | xoz | crypt_ex: anyway, try even in your localhost. it should behave the same. if your localhost ask for the password also, then you can just concentrate within you local machine first. |
| 15:42.00 | crypt_ex | will try do that, thanks for the suggestion |
| 15:42.02 | nesys | it's possible that 2 modules of ram (1Gb each), one by one are ok (single channel), together (dual channel) have problems? (i've used memtest86) |
| 15:42.04 | adamx | hi |
| 15:42.08 | xoz | crypt_ex: try apt-get remove --purge ssh |
| 15:42.34 | xoz | crypt_ex: reinstall it.... you may have fscking old configs |
| 15:42.43 | adamx | nesys: that won't be the first time this happens.. |
| 15:43.04 | nesys | adamx but what could I do? it's difficult |
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| 15:43.12 | abrotman | !tell _____root about root |
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| 15:43.19 | crypt_ex | okay |
| 15:43.29 | adamx | probably it's hardware-related |
| 15:43.49 | adamx | try it with other modules... |
| 15:43.57 | zebalin4 | How do you find out which services are running and what is easiest way to turn un-needed ones off (besides the kde services)? |
| 15:44.06 | nesys | adamx :( |
| 15:44.08 | pipeline | zebalin4: sysv-rc-config |
| 15:44.08 | xoz | crypt_ex: just follow those basic steps first... the solution is in the *detail* |
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| 15:44.20 | pipeline | zebalin4: sysv-rc-conf, rather |
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| 15:44.58 | zebalin4 | pipeline: thanks. |
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| 15:45.13 | goron | How do I get a listing of all the fonts on the system? |
| 15:45.19 | jetscreamer | nesys: 'some' board sometimes have problems with both channels filled with large mem |
| 15:45.21 | xoz | xlsfonts |
| 15:45.24 | asg | goron: xlsfonts |
| 15:45.39 | goron | thanks |
| 15:45.41 | jetscreamer | s/board/boards/ |
| 15:45.59 | jetscreamer | as in 'how is it with 512 in each channel' |
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| 15:47.05 | adamx | someone, please help me: i'm having a wierd behaviour from my mouse wheel. everything is configured and working properly except that for every move of the wheel i see (mousedown+mouseup) TWICE. Really anoying :( from where does the second scroll event come from??? |
| 15:47.15 | nesys | jetscreamer I've to check with 2 modules 512 instead of 1Gb? |
| 15:47.46 | jetscreamer | nesys: no, but you could. it was just an example. |
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| 15:48.03 | xoz | adamx: what's your window manager? kde? gnome? |
| 15:48.03 | asg | adamx: verify that you don't have two mouse configurations active in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 15:48.04 | nesys | jetscreamer adamx tnx :) |
| 15:48.28 | adamx | i'm using gnome with sawfish |
| 15:48.47 | adamx | and have only one mouse config active in my xorg.conf |
| 15:48.49 | xoz | adamx: if you try another wm, the same problem? |
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| 15:49.11 | adamx | i go and try it.. |
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| 15:49.13 | jetscreamer | gnome uses metacity by default nowadays, so you had to change it or it's left over from woody or something |
| 15:49.35 | abrotman | so ... sawfish is still better :) |
| 15:49.40 | robin_sz | fscking thing |
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| 15:50.10 | _shad_ | asg: I have the strace, but I don't see anything really wrong (Not like I know what to look for, but there's nothing obvious) |
| 15:50.15 | xoz | mambo is easy to install unless your sql server is not working properly |
| 15:50.27 | asg | _shad_: well, put the trace up on a paster site and let me have a look. |
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| 15:51.25 | sebastian | what is the meaning of: "No GConf default audio sink key and osssink doesn't work" |
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| 15:51.55 | sebastian | rhythmbox doesnt work because of that |
| 15:52.00 | sebastian | as well as gnome-cd |
| 15:52.11 | abrotman | are you running alsa ? |
| 15:52.20 | bluefox83 | how do i give a user write access to /foo/bar? |
| 15:52.22 | sebastian | abrotman: yes |
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| 15:52.30 | azeem | sebastian: try to run gstreamer-properties |
| 15:52.43 | azeem | not sure whether that is the right one, though |
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| 15:53.21 | zebalin4 | What services might cause frequent writing to HD.... like every 5 secs or so? |
| 15:53.23 | sebastian | azeem: alsasrc doesn't work, what is that? osssink test works |
| 15:53.26 | abrotman | perhaps he needs OSS compatibility ? |
| 15:53.36 | _shad_ | zebalin4: mysql with logging will |
| 15:53.38 | xoz | zebalin4: try lsof |
| 15:53.40 | abrotman | zebalin4: your journal ? |
| 15:53.44 | Unity | is debian able to detect that my processor is overheating and switch it to modulated clock mode? |
| 15:53.46 | azeem | alsasink should work when alsa works I believe |
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| 15:54.14 | xoz | zebalin4: probably progs/daemon writing to logfile |
| 15:54.16 | asg | _shad_: yeah, not much in there unfortunately. |
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| 15:54.58 | pipeline | Unity: That's not something the OS does. |
| 15:55.03 | zebalin4 | xoz: could be a log process but it's too frequent. (I'm am old Linux hand .... but obvioulsly not old enough to fig. this out.!) |
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| 15:55.18 | sebastian | azeem, abrotman: thanks for the gstream hint, I have changed osssink to alsasink and it works, Thanks a lot! I realy mean thank you guys a log! |
| 15:55.20 | _shad_ | asg: Should I just downgrade to 4.1, or should I try to debug this with you/someone else to get it resolved? |
| 15:55.22 | sebastian | *lot! |
| 15:55.22 | ajairos | Boa tarde pessoal |
| 15:55.23 | Unity | pipeline: i thought that was a kernal feature? |
| 15:55.30 | azeem | sebastian: cheers |
| 15:55.35 | abrotman | !br |
| 15:55.35 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 15:55.43 | Unity | pipeline: and debian has its own kernal, right? |
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| 15:55.49 | asg | _shad_: that's up to you. I'm off for lunch soon but downgrading and waiting for the bug to get fixed are good options. |
| 15:56.09 | ajairos | Amigos, |
| 15:56.10 | ajairos | estou tendo problemas para atualizar o kernel do 2.4.27 para o 2.6.8 |
| 15:56.10 | ajairos | no debian 3.1(sarge). |
| 15:56.10 | ajairos | Minha máquina tem mobo asus a7n8x-e deluxe com disco sata siimage. |
| 15:56.10 | ajairos | o procedimento que estou adotando é: |
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| 15:56.14 | xoz | zebalin4: and ext3 journalling is known to access the fs frequently... i don't know if this issue has been addressed. |
| 15:56.20 | _shad_ | asg: Sounds good. If it's not fixed any time soon, then I will come back and we can try to debug it |
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| 15:56.42 | asg | _shad_: okay |
| 15:56.56 | _shad_ | asg: Thanks for your help |
| 15:56.56 | asg | _shad_: you're welcome |
| 15:57.05 | asg | Guerin: do we need to buy you some decent connectivity :) |
| 15:58.16 | Guerin | asg: i was suspend2ing |
| 15:58.17 | zebalin4 | xoz: using reiserfs. Some service is installed that I don't need, I'm sure. One thing that helped a lot was turning off knemo. |
| 15:59.31 | xoz | zebalin4: if you are running kde/gnome... heck, they are like babies. alwyas want freq attention from the system. so many background processes. |
| 15:59.38 | asg | Guerin: ah, quite |
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| 16:00.16 | ajairos | Amigos, |
| 16:00.17 | ajairos | ajairos estou tendo problemas para atualizar o kernel do 2.4.27 para o 2.6.8 |
| 16:00.17 | ajairos | ajairos no debian 3.1(sarge). |
| 16:00.17 | ajairos | ajairos Minha máquina tem mobo asus a7n8x-e deluxe com disco sata siimage. |
| 16:00.17 | ajairos | ajairos o procedimento que estou adotando é: |
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| 16:00.22 | goron | !evdev |
| 16:00.24 | zebalin4 | xoz: true... but I've run them for years and have not had this problem. Not a big deal... I have a loud HD and constant bangning on it drives me nuts! |
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| 16:00.32 | goron | What is a Evdev? |
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| 16:00.53 | Eulex | !br |
| 16:00.54 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 16:00.55 | Eulex | !flood |
| 16:00.55 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 16:01.05 | asg | goron: sudo modinfo evdev |
| 16:01.28 | ircdevil | faq is fucked up? |
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| 16:01.34 | asg | ircdevil: which faq? |
| 16:01.37 | xoz | zebalin4: conky is light. |
| 16:01.52 | xoz | zebalin4: cmpared to knemo |
| 16:02.03 | goron | asg: ok, and how do I know whether I am using that? |
| 16:02.03 | asg | ircdevil: hah, tarzeau ran out of disk space |
| 16:02.11 | goron | asg: I get a message during an update. |
| 16:02.12 | asg | tarzeau: your wiki is out of disk space |
| 16:02.18 | asg | goron: lsmod | grep evdev |
| 16:02.29 | zebalin4 | xoz: I don't need knemo... not even sure what it does or how it got running. I tunrned it off in kde. |
| 16:02.46 | goron | asg: Way ahead of you |
| 16:02.49 | goron | asg: evdev 9664 0 |
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| 16:02.58 | ircdevil | so - how do i get this scanner working? according to sane page it is fully supported, so what is the debian way? |
| 16:03.00 | goron | asg: Ok, so I can ignore it. Thanks |
| 16:03.02 | asg | goron: so, it's been installed but isn't in use. |
| 16:03.37 | ircdevil | !faq tarzeau |
| 16:03.37 | dpkg | tarzeau: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 16:04.44 | SimonRaven | conky just keeps SEGVing here |
| 16:04.55 | SimonRaven | conky |
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| 16:05.07 | SimonRaven | [1] XXXXX segmentation fault conky |
| 16:05.27 | SimonRaven | blahdeblah |
| 16:05.43 | goron | Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct |
| 16:05.56 | goron | I get this when I do 'emacs -q'. |
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| 16:06.50 | cahoot | ircdevil: /usr/share/doc/libsane/README.Debian.gz holds some info |
| 16:06.58 | ircdevil | cahoot: ty |
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| 16:09.43 | ircdevil | cahoot: ok - sane-find-scanner find the thing. but xsane cant find it? |
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| 16:10.02 | orchid | SimonRaven: bug #329396 |
| 16:10.03 | cahoot | ircdevil: permissions problem? |
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| 16:10.15 | hanasaki | using nagios on etch. ./check_httpd where is that file? |
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| 16:10.49 | Eulex | hanasaki, tried dpkg -L, apt-file, locate? |
| 16:11.03 | hanasaki | i wil now thnks |
| 16:11.22 | ircdevil | cahoot: yes - root can run xsane (i know - i ran an x-application as root :o( spank me!) |
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| 16:12.04 | pm_ | how can i make the folder 's1' only readable by the users members of the group 's1_users'? |
| 16:12.14 | cahoot | ircdevil: user *is* member of scanner group? |
| 16:12.34 | ircdevil | cahoot: adduser foo scanner? |
| 16:12.43 | cahoot | ircdevil: or is this changed in latter incarnations? to some usb related group? |
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| 16:13.22 | hanasaki | Eulex: thanks.. hmm how can i pass the port in services.cfg so it checks 8080 not the default of 80 |
| 16:13.37 | ircdevil | cahoot: well adduser foo scanner didnt help |
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| 16:13.52 | cahoot | ircdevil: logout/login user |
| 16:13.56 | asg | pm_: read the Permissions page on our wiki (/topic) |
| 16:14.08 | Eulex | hanasaki, sorry, I know nothing about that nagios thing. but usually you edit the appropriate config file for a program in /etc. |
| 16:14.26 | pm_ | ok, thanks |
| 16:14.30 | asg | pm_: at least, read it when tarzeau fixes it |
| 16:14.37 | asg | pm_: it's down at the moment |
| 16:14.37 | hanasaki | thanks |
| 16:14.47 | robin_sz | dang, this debian for unix is so hard to use. when is debian for XP coming out? |
| 16:14.53 | ircdevil | cahoot: didnt help |
| 16:14.57 | hanasaki | anyone know how to tell nagios in services.cfg to check http on a diff port? i tried "port and it fails |
| 16:15.01 | pm_ | asg i see...there is any man page that can help me? |
| 16:15.04 | r2d80 | problem with serverside cram-md5 support |
| 16:15.18 | asg | pm_: basically, chown user.group /dir ; chmod 750 /dir (you will probably have to also change the files in the dir also) |
| 16:15.20 | r2d80 | authentication failure |
| 16:15.37 | asg | pm_: the chmod and chown manpages should explain things |
| 16:15.39 | r2d80 | Email client kmail |
| 16:15.55 | zebalin4 | I have several mysql databases in a debian partition I want to xfer to a new debian install. I can mysqldump them and then 'insert' them, but is there a faster/cleaner way? |
| 16:15.58 | r2d80 | with program exim-adduser I made the user |
| 16:16.21 | asg | zebalin4: yes, just shutdown mysql and copy the database files. Make sure the versions of mysql are the same though. |
| 16:16.28 | cahoot | ircdevil: check the perms on the scanners entry in /proc/bus/usb/.. - dmesg tells you where to look |
| 16:16.55 | cahoot | ircdevil: (presuming an usb device) |
| 16:16.58 | zebalin4 | asg: versions are not same, I dont think. old is 4.x other is 5.x I believe. Need to check. |
| 16:17.10 | ircdevil | cahoot: from dmesg: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd sane-find-scann dev 3 rqt 128 rq 6 len 2 ret -32 |
| 16:17.14 | asg | zebalin4: oh, if they aren't exactly the same, you'll have to use mysqldump |
| 16:17.24 | robin_sz | zebalin4: in that case mysqldump or hotdump ... |
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| 16:17.49 | robin_sz | zebalin4: I think you can replaicate a 5 from a 4 too, that might work |
| 16:17.50 | pm_ | asg with chown user.group /dir i have to execute this cmd to every user of this group right? there is a way to tell this: 'this folder is available only to users members of the group X'? |
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| 16:18.51 | asg | pm_: no, just make sure the group owner of the dir and files in it is the group which your users belong to. |
| 16:18.58 | cahoot | ircdevil: so sane-find-scanner didn't really succeed? |
| 16:19.21 | robin_sz | "I have to execut this command to every user of this group" ... im still trying to work out what that actually means |
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| 16:19.41 | asg | robin_sz: fundamental misunderstanding of Unix permissions |
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| 16:20.21 | ircdevil | cahoot: output is here: http://pastebin.com/517589 |
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| 16:20.52 | cahoot | ircdevil: looks healthy to me |
| 16:20.55 | ircdevil | cahoot: and that also works as user |
| 16:21.30 | robin_sz | asg: well spotted |
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| 16:21.55 | cahoot | ircdevil: scanimage -L (as user) |
| 16:22.04 | ircdevil | cahoot: what was that about the permissions in /proc/bus/usb ? all files and dirs there are root:root |
| 16:22.24 | asg | pm_: http://wooledge.org/mywiki/Permissions (greycat's mirror. He wrote the Permissions part of the faq anyway.) |
| 16:22.30 | cahoot | ircdevil: the scanner should have root:sanner |
| 16:22.36 | cahoot | err |
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| 16:23.01 | ircdevil | cahoot: what path you got? |
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| 16:23.24 | cahoot | ircdevil: /proc/bus/usb/001/005 |
| 16:23.43 | cahoot | ircdevil: but that varies from time to time |
| 16:23.43 | ircdevil | cahoot: scanimage -L works as root but not as user |
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| 16:24.01 | kn0t | ircdevil: is the user in the "scanner" group? |
| 16:24.29 | cahoot | ircdevil: hotplug or udev? |
| 16:24.35 | ircdevil | kn0t: yes - that is done |
| 16:24.54 | clars | I need a realplayer - what source.list adress do I need? |
| 16:25.00 | ircdevil | cahoot: hotplug i believe |
| 16:25.20 | cahoot | ircdevil: hotplug *should* set the perms for you |
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| 16:25.45 | ircdevil | cahoot: how can i verify that it is hotplug? |
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| 16:25.53 | macsim | canon ip 1600 printer is supported by linux ? |
| 16:26.11 | asg | macsim: check linuxprinting.org |
| 16:26.18 | macsim | asg, thx |
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| 16:28.19 | ircdevil | cahoot: so your /proc/bus/usb/001/005 is root:scanner? |
| 16:28.25 | cahoot | yes |
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| 16:29.22 | ircdevil | cahoot: and i can somehow see in the devices what 00x/00x it is? http://pastebin.com/517595 |
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| 16:30.03 | cahoot | 004:002 |
| 16:30.27 | ircdevil | cahoot: (lsusb of cause) |
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| 16:31.44 | ircdevil | cahoot: hrmph! chown root:scanner && chmod 777 didnt do it! |
| 16:32.03 | Kaigeek | #debian-admin |
| 16:32.05 | Kaigeek | #debian-isp |
| 16:32.19 | Kaigeek | join the channel my debian official an unofficial sites. |
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| 16:33.33 | asg | Kaigeek: if you are going to spam #debian, you could at least say please |
| 16:33.46 | Kaigeek | asg hm ok |
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| 16:35.02 | asg | KerPlunk was a great game |
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| 16:35.48 | asg | !permissions is also http://wooledge.org/mywiki/Permissions |
| 16:35.48 | dpkg | okay, asg |
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| 16:40.24 | landstalker | anyone heard or know of an issue with apache2 and debian 3.1 slowing the server down but not showing any signs of processor overuse etc? |
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| 16:41.09 | NOthsouth | Can I install k3b on KDE 3.4? |
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| 16:41.17 | tricky | What consequences will there be when using packages from http://www.backports.org/ in the stable tree? |
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| 16:43.27 | goron | What program understands this syntax? -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* |
| 16:43.51 | goron | Where * means "whatever character". |
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| 16:44.00 | raden | has anyone seen this before ? |
| 16:44.01 | raden | -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 20 -j ACCEPT |
| 16:44.01 | raden | -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT |
| 16:44.06 | raden | gah wrong thing |
| 16:44.12 | raden | Message from syslogd@Office at Sun Jan 22 03:32:26 2006 ... |
| 16:44.12 | raden | Office kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold |
| 16:44.12 | azeem | goron: it's the general X font selection syntax |
| 16:44.17 | raden | ^^^ that |
| 16:44.17 | goron | azeem: I know. |
| 16:44.27 | azeem | goron: so what is your question? |
| 16:44.32 | goron | azeem: I want to know how to filter xlsfonts. |
| 16:44.45 | azeem | aha, no idea |
| 16:44.49 | goron | azeem: Since the real problem is that emacs says it can't convert something. |
| 16:44.57 | goron | azeem: Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct |
| 16:45.13 | ke6isf | !tell raden -about flood |
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| 16:45.55 | raden | ke6isf, i know about flood |
| 16:45.58 | ke6isf | raden: I've seen it before. |
| 16:46.19 | raden | first time i came on this morning and looked in my console sessions and its like WTF |
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| 16:48.07 | oblivius | hellp |
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| 16:48.35 | ke6isf | !tell oblivius -about ask |
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| 16:48.52 | Zsolesz | sziasztok |
| 16:49.10 | ke6isf | Zsolesz: ...huh? |
| 16:49.17 | oblivius | guys, can I mount a remote share with smbmount,smbfs but with user privilege ? |
| 16:49.21 | Zsolesz | couriert vágja valaki? |
| 16:49.29 | ke6isf | !hu |
| 16:49.30 | dpkg | hmm... hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t. |
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| 16:51.09 | oblivius | I use in fstab: //pc1/share /mnt/share smbfs defaults,noauto,user,umask=0777,username=nick,password=psw 0 0 |
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| 16:51.37 | oblivius | but I receive: cannot mount on /mnt/share: Operation not permitted |
| 16:51.47 | oblivius | smbmnt failed: 1 |
| 16:52.05 | oblivius | is it possible mount with user privilege ? |
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| 16:52.41 | landstalker | yeah add user to the fstab |
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| 16:53.29 | oblivius | landstalker: I have put username=nick into fstab |
| 16:53.57 | landstalker | but you can mount as root |
| 16:53.58 | landstalker | ? |
| 16:54.39 | oblivius | yes, I think.. wait, I check it |
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| 16:56.03 | kspath | Kaigeek: debian-admin is for debian sysadmins or debian admins as in officially part of debian organization? |
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| 16:56.51 | kspath | Kaigeek: strangely you are not in either channel |
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| 16:57.03 | OPin | Hi |
| 16:57.10 | OPin | somebody can help me ? |
| 16:57.16 | OPin | I have a problem with permissions |
| 16:57.23 | OPin | I can't exec bash |
| 16:57.24 | odla | OPin: only if you ask your question |
| 16:57.24 | ke6isf | OPin: Try asking your question. |
| 16:57.26 | OPin | with normal use |
| 16:57.32 | ke6isf | !tell opin -about enter |
| 16:57.40 | OPin | ok sorry |
| 16:58.07 | KerPlunk | !tell OPin about ask |
| 16:58.54 | OPin | I think that the problem is in PAM. I only can logued in my system with root account. When I login with a user I obtain this error Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied |
| 16:59.14 | ke6isf | OPin: ls -l /bin/bash? |
| 16:59.22 | oblivius | landstalker: umh, with root I can mount the share, because I have looked with the mount command an entry like //pc1/share on /mnt/share type smbfs (rw) |
| 16:59.36 | OPin | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 683924 Jan 10 00:37 /bin/bash |
| 16:59.50 | oblivius | landstalker: but If I perform an ls I received a permission denied |
| 16:59.53 | oblivius | O_o |
| 17:00.18 | ke6isf | OPin: What version of Debian? |
| 17:00.25 | OPin | debian sid |
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| 17:00.31 | ke6isf | hooboy |
| 17:00.43 | ke6isf | OPin: Any reason you're running Sid? |
| 17:01.04 | OPin | I need some packets update |
| 17:01.20 | ke6isf | OPin: You're not a developer or tester, are you? |
| 17:01.23 | Daedalus_ | OPin: ls -l / | grep 'bin' (just want the bin line) |
| 17:01.56 | OPin | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 3072 Jan 22 13:52 bin |
| 17:01.56 | OPin | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 3072 Jan 22 13:52 sbin |
| 17:02.14 | OPin | ke6isf If I like Sid what is the problem ? |
| 17:02.23 | ke6isf | !sid |
| 17:02.23 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 17:02.59 | Gandalfar | poor sid, never growing up :( |
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| 17:03.06 | goron | ke6isf: How does one use for some subset of the system new software and Stable for the rest? Backports don't work allways. |
| 17:03.21 | Gandalfar | goron: see pinning |
| 17:03.23 | ke6isf | OPin: Well, if you like it, then go all out, but heed the warning. |
| 17:03.26 | landstalker | mount -t smbfs //pc1/share /mnt/share -o username=nick,password=psw |
| 17:03.34 | OPin | ok ke6isf |
| 17:03.46 | OPin | more ? |
| 17:03.53 | kspath | less |
| 17:03.56 | pm_ | any one knows about a edonkey client that works only in the cmd line? the edonkey one is too old to connect in the new servers. |
| 17:03.58 | Daedalus_ | OPin: Testing might be more to your liking. |
| 17:04.12 | azeem | except downgrading isn't easily possible |
| 17:04.15 | OPin | ok |
| 17:04.18 | Gandalfar | pm_: amule has cli version also |
| 17:04.23 | OPin | this morning all run ok |
| 17:04.27 | OPin | when I reboot |
| 17:04.28 | azeem | OPin: did you upgrade? |
| 17:04.31 | azeem | recently? |
| 17:04.32 | OPin | yes |
| 17:04.33 | pm_ | Gandalfar i can't find it in the site! =/ |
| 17:04.36 | ke6isf | OPin: Welcome to the wonderful world of Sid. |
| 17:04.37 | OPin | late of the error |
| 17:04.40 | Gandalfar | pm_: tried asking in #amule? |
| 17:04.41 | oblivius | landstalker: of course, I have wrote that |
| 17:04.41 | OPin | xD |
| 17:04.48 | azeem | OPin: did you check the bug tracking system? |
| 17:05.08 | OPin | azeem my error is before of upgrade |
| 17:05.10 | oblivius | but when I exec an ls, I received a permission denied :\ |
| 17:05.16 | azeem | OPin: before of upgrade? |
| 17:05.21 | pm_ | Gandalfar thanks =] |
| 17:05.21 | goron | Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct |
| 17:05.27 | goron | What can I do about this? |
| 17:05.36 | goron | I need that font, I guess. |
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| 17:05.43 | azeem | goron: did you check whether that font is available? |
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| 17:05.49 | Froo | Anyone good at getting xine to play DVDs? I'm stuck, need help. I got wxvlc and libdvdcss2 but still get the errors when I try to play DVDs. |
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| 17:06.14 | raf256 | Froo: I think I got simmilar errors |
| 17:06.17 | goron | azeem: Well, somewhat, and it seems I have it. |
| 17:06.19 | raf256 | then I used kaffeine |
| 17:06.35 | azeem | goron: this is when booting emacs, right? |
| 17:06.49 | azeem | did you check whether this string is perhaps somewhere in ~/.emacs*? |
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| 17:07.03 | goron | azeem: I did emacs -q |
| 17:07.15 | azeem | what does that do? |
| 17:07.17 | goron | azeem: i.e. ignore the .emacs file |
| 17:07.20 | azeem | ah |
| 17:07.31 | orchid | goron: what about ~/.Xresources? |
| 17:07.33 | Froo | raf256: Which errors are you getting? I get the 'There is no mrl' and then two message boxes - one title xine engine error. |
| 17:07.35 | azeem | well, it's a warning. Does emacs work fine otherwise? |
| 17:07.51 | raf256 | Froo: I dont remember, sorry |
| 17:07.59 | raf256 | Froo: but kaffeine is really nice, apt-get it |
| 17:08.28 | goron | azeem: I get blocks, instead of letters. |
| 17:08.32 | Froo | raf256: kaffeine - Do you need KDE or something for that? I am running xfce desktop. |
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| 17:09.05 | Guerin | kaffeine is just xine |
| 17:09.13 | azeem | goron: oops :) |
| 17:09.16 | Guerin | xine + about 300MB of useless libs |
| 17:09.18 | TGoC | How can i check my harddrive's for errors in shell? |
| 17:09.28 | Guerin | Froo: so use xine, vlc or mplayer |
| 17:09.32 | azeem | Guerin: unless you run KDE anyway, I guess |
| 17:09.36 | raf256 | Froo: kdelibs.. I think they are not so huge, but I can be wrong... yes, try xine.. or mpl;ayer perhaps (!mplayer) |
| 17:09.39 | Guerin | TGoC: fsck and/or badblocks |
| 17:09.47 | Guerin | azeem: yeah. |
| 17:09.58 | raf256 | TGoC: smartctrl |
| 17:09.59 | azeem | is there some tool to read out SMARTS info? |
| 17:10.01 | azeem | ah :) |
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| 17:10.24 | Froo | raf256: Yeah - Looks like you need KDE. Guerin - I am trying xine now, but it's not working. I'll try mplayer. Does it use the same libdvdcss2? |
| 17:10.42 | goron | I do have these two fonts: |
| 17:10.43 | goron | -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-70-iso8859-1 |
| 17:10.43 | goron | -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso8859-1 |
| 17:10.49 | raf256 | Froo: also try dvdbackup by the way, it comes with (or installs) some own libdvdcss2 |
| 17:10.56 | Guerin | Froo: oh, for dvds? mplayer's not the best choice, it doesn't do menus and shit very well. |
| 17:10.56 | goron | "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" |
| 17:11.15 | abrotman | libdvdread3 .. libdvdcss is not available officially in debian |
| 17:11.18 | goron | To me, it seems that that should match. |
| 17:11.34 | kspath | azeem: SMARTS as in EMC ? |
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| 17:11.59 | Froo | Wow, lots of good suggestions. |
| 17:12.01 | Froo | Thanks. |
| 17:12.13 | Guerin | i think ogle is the thing people use for dvds] |
| 17:12.15 | Guerin | or vlc |
| 17:12.37 | TGoC | [Sun Jan 22 16:16:04 2006] [crit] (28)No space left on device: mod_rewrite: could not create rewrite_log_lock <-- Anyone can explain? |
| 17:12.52 | TGoC | mmz |
| 17:13.00 | Guerin | TGoC: no space left on device |
| 17:13.03 | Guerin | TGoC: dug |
| 17:13.05 | azeem | kspath: Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology System (S.M.A.R.T.) |
| 17:13.16 | TGoC | Guerin how can i be sure |
| 17:13.18 | azeem | see smartmontools |
| 17:13.20 | TGoC | cause there should be plenty |
| 17:13.34 | Guerin | TGoC: echo "anyspaceleft" > file |
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| 17:14.18 | Guerin | TGoC: it's probably /var filling up with shite, as it tends to do |
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| 17:14.36 | TGoC | how to fix it? |
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| 17:14.50 | TGoC | and Guerin that works the echo |
| 17:14.52 | TGoC | :p |
| 17:14.52 | Guerin | TGoC: delete stuff |
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| 17:15.03 | Guerin | well, honestly |
| 17:15.15 | Guerin | mah bucket's done all full up w' water |
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| 17:15.27 | Guerin | how d'ah emty it, paw? |
| 17:15.33 | TGoC | Guerin if there is no space free |
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| 17:15.39 | TGoC | how come i can write files then |
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| 17:15.45 | Guerin | TGoC: dunno. |
| 17:15.54 | Guerin | TGoC: it's your computer, why are you asking me? |
| 17:16.20 | TGoC | Because i can't figure it out myself... |
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| 17:16.39 | goron | I think I miss a FontPath in my xorg.conf |
| 17:16.41 | Guerin | TGoC: i guess you're fucked, then, because I can't figure out what's on your computer. |
| 17:16.43 | whitehorse1 | 2GB or so is reserved for root as I recall. |
| 17:16.55 | Guerin | whitehorse1: 5% |
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| 17:17.04 | goron | azeem: Do you have emacs installed (using X)? |
| 17:17.04 | Guerin | whitehorse1: by default, on ext* |
| 17:17.11 | Guerin | goron: i do |
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| 17:17.15 | TGoC | Guerin if you can't help, don't answer :) |
| 17:17.16 | whitehorse1 | Guerin :) |
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| 17:17.23 | goron | Guerin: Could you post your FontPath section> |
| 17:17.32 | goron | Guerin: from xorg.conf? |
| 17:17.44 | goron | Guerin: e.g. on pastebin.com |
| 17:17.55 | Guerin | TGoC: if you're not prepared to do minimal amounts of diagnostic, don't bother asking. |
| 17:18.03 | TGoC | i am Guerin |
| 17:18.14 | TGoC | I did the echo thing, and it wrote it and placed it |
| 17:18.23 | TGoC | He's needs to do accept.lock |
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| 17:18.36 | TGoC | but he won't |
| 17:18.42 | TGoC | And i tried making it manually |
| 17:18.45 | TGoC | it worked |
| 17:18.53 | Guerin | TGoC: are you root? |
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| 17:18.56 | TGoC | yes |
| 17:19.05 | whitehorse1 | Grr, just updated the web developer extension to v1.01 in Firefox; I#d disabled it since the last update since it prevented Firefox from starting properly. I hoped the update would fix it. Sigh, better go and start Ff in safe mode. And report the problem to the developer; fun though whining futilely in chatrms about it is |
| 17:19.08 | TGoC | should i try su www-data and then do it again? |
| 17:19.11 | Guerin | TGoC: don't do it as root |
| 17:19.17 | Guerin | www-data shouldn't have a shell |
| 17:19.31 | Guerin | you might consider using a tool which shows you how much space you have left on the device |
| 17:19.36 | Guerin | just an idea |
| 17:19.42 | TGoC | Ok, name me one |
| 17:19.53 | cyzie | how do i know what is the default player use when i view the trailer via webpage? |
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| 17:20.32 | kristalino | who is behind del.icio.us ? |
| 17:20.56 | Guerin | goron: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1619 |
| 17:21.01 | whitehorse1 | kristalino: how would we know? g There's bound to be an "About Us" link on the site's homepage, somewhere. Click it? |
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| 17:21.28 | goron | Guerin: ty |
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| 17:21.33 | azeem | kristalino: yahoo, AFAIK |
| 17:21.34 | whitehorse1 | TGoC: KDiskFree |
| 17:21.45 | azeem | kristalino: but what does that have to do with Debian? |
| 17:21.55 | Guerin | TGoC: apt-cache search disk usage |
| 17:22.22 | goron | Guerin: Last time I used the font server entry the X server didn't want to boot. |
| 17:23.01 | whitehorse1 | Quick straw poll (yep, deliberate poll) just because I just wondered about it: Those using Debian on desktop, are there apps/tasks for which you [feel you] have to restart into Windows? eg speech recognition can be one |
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| 17:23.28 | Guerin | goron: see http://feayn.org/~lewis/fonts for a list of font packages I have installed |
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| 17:23.40 | Guerin | whitehorse1: none. |
| 17:23.46 | TGoC | 9% and 10% usage |
| 17:23.48 | phuqmnb | whitehorsel:gaming |
| 17:23.49 | TGoC | space plenty |
| 17:24.06 | Coke | Hello. Two questions: how do I "bind" a certain network card to a specific network device? and I'm currently experiencing timeout errors on my via rhine. I know there was some solution to this using options for the modprobe, but I can't find anything for the 2.6 kernel describing this, buy me a clue? |
| 17:24.08 | TGoC | /dev/hdv1 / 10000.0 864.0 9136.0 9% ufs |
| 17:24.27 | Guerin | Coke: nameif can do it |
| 17:24.34 | Guerin | but i think it's a bit hackish |
| 17:24.36 | Greatred | Coke, you could try using udev |
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| 17:25.11 | Varanger | hello |
| 17:25.13 | TGoC | Guerin i have 9 GB left on space |
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| 17:25.20 | Guerin | TGoC: good to know. |
| 17:25.25 | Varanger | I have a very big issue compiling and program |
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| 17:25.35 | Kaigeek | ghi |
| 17:25.36 | Kaigeek | hi |
| 17:25.37 | Kaigeek | :() |
| 17:25.40 | Varanger | but I don't want to flood this here... where can I go? |
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| 17:25.47 | Guerin | !paster Varanger |
| 17:25.47 | dpkg | Varanger: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 17:25.48 | Greatred | Coke, i have this line for one of my network cards in my udev rules: KERNEL="eth*", SYSFS{address}="00:10:5a:27:1f:e1", NAME="lan0" |
| 17:25.51 | TGoC | some said to me a hour ago: <ildjarn> tgoc, it's a semaphore problem. |
| 17:25.59 | Varanger | Guerin: You rule |
| 17:26.03 | TGoC | But he couldn't remember howto fix it |
| 17:26.04 | susperia | Varanger fb.net/paste |
| 17:26.12 | Coke | Ok. Any hints on the via rhine problem? |
| 17:26.29 | cahoot | Coke: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt- look for netdev - might be what you looked for |
| 17:26.32 | Greatred | no idea sorry |
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| 17:26.52 | indes | hm, where is dvdrecord in unstable? not in dvd+rw-tools |
| 17:27.23 | cyzie | how do i know what is the default player use when i view the trailer via webpage? |
| 17:29.54 | phuqmnb | is anyone else not getting any sound with the Flash plugin? |
| 17:29.54 | goron | Guerin: Where did you get mplayer-fonts? |
| 17:29.55 | goron | Guerin: I have the mplayer source already in my sources.list |
| 17:29.55 | goron | indes: use apt-file |
| 17:29.55 | indes | phuqmnb, for me it was a device in use issue, asoundrc fixed it |
| 17:29.55 | indes | goron, .. okay, thx |
| 17:30.14 | phuqmnb | indes:that sounds like it could be the same thing with me...let me try |
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| 17:30.30 | Guerin | goron: i just copied the bv sans font to ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf, because I'm a lazy bastard |
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| 17:30.53 | goron | Guerin: I mean you have a *package*. |
| 17:30.59 | Guerin | phuqmnb: use artsdsp or esddsp to make it play nice with your sound server |
| 17:31.02 | goron | Guerin: or did you create one yourself? |
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| 17:31.09 | Guerin | oh, I do? it doesn't work. |
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| 17:31.18 | indes | goron, it returns: dvdrtools: usr/bin/dvdrecord |
| 17:31.19 | indes | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.34 | goron | indes: did you update apt-file? |
| 17:31.35 | phuqmnb | Guerin: I suppose I can get these with APT? |
| 17:31.40 | indes | (sorry about the carriage return) .. I am updated yes.. (both apt-get and apt-file) |
| 17:31.51 | goron | indes: then IHNFC. |
| 17:32.01 | Guerin | phuqmnb: i suppose so too. Only any good if you use arts or esd |
| 17:32.11 | indes | thats a new acronym ;-) |
| 17:32.26 | goron | indes: I Have No Fucking Clue. |
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| 17:32.32 | indes | yeah, I got it.. just new ;-) hehe |
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| 17:33.00 | indes | oh maybe its not on the main mirror |
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| 17:33.40 | phuqmnb | Guerin: I have never used those...could you give me some help? |
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| 17:34.22 | goron | Guerin: ok, I am now installing all your font packages. |
| 17:34.59 | goron | Why don't terminals support "put cursor at mouse position"? |
| 17:35.10 | Coke | How is it possible that I am experiencing a 2.4-kernel bug in the network driver for Via Rhine, but in my 2.6 kernel? Is it possible that nobody has fixed it? |
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| 17:35.17 | goron | (Or what terminals do support that?) |
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| 17:35.22 | goron | Besides eshell |
| 17:35.24 | indes | phuqmnb, arts or esd (or jack) usually takes over a /dev/dsp device and allows for software mixing... Personally I'd advise against this and go with alsa's software if you are able to... but thats me |
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| 17:35.29 | Guerin | phuqmnb: esddsp yourprogram & |
| 17:35.39 | indes | ^^ runs your app in the container |
| 17:35.44 | goron | phuqmnb: Or get a real sound card. |
| 17:35.45 | Coke | My Via Rhine-III card (d-link) gets a network watchdoc timeout on transmits, any ideas on how to resolv this problem? (i run 2.6.11.11) |
| 17:35.47 | Guerin | phuqmnb: will start the program with esddsp handling sound for it |
| 17:35.51 | Guerin | for instance |
| 17:36.11 | phuqmnb | ah...ok |
| 17:36.20 | indes | wtf is dvdrtools doing in nonfree? forshame! |
| 17:37.00 | pipeline | Coke: Two things I would try: 1. making sure it's in a bus-mastering slot. 2. throwing it way and buying something that's not shit. |
| 17:37.39 | Coke | pipeline: point taken. |
| 17:37.50 | pipeline | Coke: 3com cards run about 5$ on ebay. |
| 17:38.26 | Coke | pipeline: problem is we're about to LAN right _now_ :) |
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| 17:38.56 | ativan | how do I setup my locale? debootstrap didn't do it for me... |
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| 17:39.02 | Coke | pipeline: what is this "bus mastering slot" |
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| 17:39.55 | pipeline | Coke: on motherboards with only one PCI bus, usually, some of the PCI slots are not "bus mastering", that is, they cannot take control of the entire bus. Some PCI cards get, ah, testy. |
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| 17:40.17 | TGoC | [Sun Jan 22 18:08:14 2006] [emerg] (28)No space left on device: Couldn't create accept lock : And there is space enough. (9gb to be correct) |
| 17:40.36 | Coke | How can I verify which slot is the bus mastering slot? |
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| 17:42.01 | bbrazil | TGoC: out of inodes? df -i |
| 17:42.37 | sherdog | Hehe, this is a bit of an unusual question, but does anyone got this picture without "his" desktop? http://neom.ca/nix.png |
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| 17:43.13 | TGoC | 2% and 0% bbrazil |
| 17:43.21 | Greatred | that's a nice background pic, sherdog :D |
| 17:44.06 | sherdog | Greatred Hehe, its simply awesome! And I have become obssesed.. Does anyone have it on there hd? |
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| 17:45.22 | indes | .. What?! |
| 17:46.27 | ativan | !info locale |
| 17:46.48 | sherdog | indes What? |
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| 17:47.01 | indes | sherdog, what?!! lol |
| 17:47.09 | TGoC | bbrazil i have plenty inodes |
| 17:47.16 | sherdog | Hehe, do u got this picture? http://neom.ca/nix.png |
| 17:47.38 | indes | by that do you mean .. Do I understand the picture? .. or do I own a copy of the picture? |
| 17:47.45 | indes | your question doesn't make gramatical sense.. :-\ |
| 17:47.52 | cowbell | sherdog: you could askjohn edgar |
| 17:48.29 | sherdog | indes Sry mate, not my native language.. :) Do u own a copy..? ;) |
| 17:48.42 | sherdog | cowbell John Edgar? |
| 17:48.57 | indes | hehe np, sherdog http://neom.ca/ |
| 17:49.15 | indes | sherdog, John Edgar appears to be the name of the person that owns the site |
| 17:49.23 | cowbell | yep |
| 17:49.32 | sherdog | Hehe |
| 17:49.34 | cowbell | there's a contact form |
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| 17:50.06 | Kluster_v2 | http://neom.deviantart.com |
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| 17:50.37 | sherdog | ty guys.. :) |
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| 17:51.06 | bonden | hi heya. could someone recommend a good podcast receiver? I've tried ipodder... but wasn't satisfied... =/ |
| 17:51.07 | tchino | i have a canon printer pixma mp130, but when setup /dev/usb/lp0, i get the message: unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": No such device |
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| 17:51.18 | _rene_ | dondelelcaro: ping |
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| 17:51.33 | Cyorxamp | Lo, theres a bug in debian/ubuntu I am trying to avoid... With certain IDE configuration (i.e. where cdroms/hdd's are placed and what channel) ubuntu/debian can't find its kernel to install... I need to remember what the work around is |
| 17:51.48 | mortum | hola a todos |
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| 17:51.58 | blondie | pardon? |
| 17:51.58 | mortum | uh, hello |
| 17:52.06 | mortum | :-P |
| 17:52.27 | Cyorxamp | plus does anyone know the bug number for this? would be nice to moan bout it officially |
| 17:52.32 | Cyorxamp | been there on several releases now |
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| 17:52.55 | Dude2 | Heya i got an problem... i accidentilly deleted an folder... and wants to get the stuff back :S "rm -drf folder" is the command i used... it's not really really important... but i'm hoping i can get it back :P |
| 17:52.58 | tchino | in the program turboprint: sorry that i forget this |
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| 17:59.49 | deeLer | hello |
| 18:00.05 | pm_ | how can i create a encrypted partition on my hd? |
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| 18:00.31 | deeLer | anyone here from Phoenix, AZ ? |
| 18:00.58 | abrotman | deeLer: why? |
| 18:01.07 | deeLer | just wondering |
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| 18:02.13 | Froo | You think the fact that I can't play a fucking audio CD has something to do with the fact that I can't play a DVD? It's a combo drive... |
| 18:02.35 | abrotman | do you have the cable ? |
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| 18:02.51 | Froo | I can't even mount an audio CD. |
| 18:02.57 | azeem | that's expected |
| 18:03.04 | abrotman | you're not supposed to |
| 18:03.04 | cahoot | Froo: not many can |
| 18:03.07 | azeem | as there is no file system on it |
| 18:03.08 | Froo | No? |
| 18:03.13 | Froo | How do yo play one? |
| 18:03.22 | abrotman | just play it |
| 18:03.34 | Froo | Oh. |
| 18:03.43 | Froo | xmms can play audio CDs? |
| 18:03.48 | abrotman | yes |
| 18:03.58 | thingfish | so can totem. |
| 18:04.30 | _rene_ | dondelelcaro: nevermind... |
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| 18:04.51 | pm_ | how can i run an app, and when i logout the app keeps running? |
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| 18:05.03 | Aronofsky | hi, i want to use mod_authn_dbd to do mysql authentication with apache2 but i can't find the mysql driver, can anyone tell me where i can find it ? |
| 18:05.07 | Froo | How do you access the files on an audio CD if you can't mount the CD? |
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| 18:06.06 | azeem | Froo: there are no files |
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| 18:06.20 | zuverink | Could someone please explain how to create a maildir in my user home directory? |
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| 18:06.22 | Froo | azeem: Then how do you access the CD? |
| 18:06.29 | mejo | hello |
| 18:06.30 | abrotman | zuverink: maildirmake ? |
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| 18:06.34 | mejo | what does /usr/bin/xor do? |
| 18:06.41 | abrotman | man xor |
| 18:06.42 | azeem | Froo: the CD player accesses it through low-level commands on the IDE bus |
| 18:06.48 | adamx | hi |
| 18:06.56 | mejo | it's not present in debian, and i need to replace it with a substitution in a shell script wich i want to distribute for debian. |
| 18:07.00 | zuverink | abrotman: thanks I shearch all over but never found anything |
| 18:07.09 | mejo | abrotman: xor is not present in debian. |
| 18:07.13 | Froo | azeem: Okay then, but specifically, what do I click on in xmms to do that? |
| 18:07.24 | azeem | Froo: Play location->/cdrom |
| 18:07.26 | abrotman | mejo: so on the OS where it is .. what does man xor say it does ? |
| 18:07.27 | azeem | or something |
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| 18:07.52 | mejo | abrotman: i don't know/have any OS with xor installed. |
| 18:08.01 | Froo | azeem: Error Couldn't look up host cdrom |
| 18:08.06 | pm_ | how can i run an app, and when i logout the app keeps running? |
| 18:08.15 | mejo | abrotman: i try to fix a mkinitrd script for cryptsetup, and the original one uses /usr/bin/delay and /usr/bin/xor. |
| 18:08.33 | mejo | abrotman: i know neither of both, and google didn't help either. |
| 18:09.09 | zuverink | abrotman: that command did not work, is there a specific program that must be installed to add this command/ I am trying to use getmail. |
| 18:09.14 | abrotman | mejo: did you ask the people who made cryptsetup |
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| 18:09.24 | abrotman | !find bin/maildirmake sarge |
| 18:09.40 | mejo | abrotman: it's not from cryptsetup upstream, it's a script without information about author/copyright. |
| 18:09.44 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/maildirmake' (3): (/usr/bin/maildirmake.maildrop) in mail/maildrop ;; (/usr/bin/maildirmake.courier) in mail/courier-base ;; (/usr/bin/maildirmake.dovecot) in mail/dovecot-common. |
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| 18:10.06 | Flogiston | i installed phpsysinfo. where do i activate php support in apache? |
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| 18:10.15 | abrotman | apache1 or 2 ? |
| 18:10.18 | Flogiston | 2 |
| 18:10.20 | Froo | Thanks for your efforts... Back to Google... |
| 18:10.23 | abrotman | libapache2-mod-php4 |
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| 18:11.09 | Flogiston | thanks man |
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| 18:11.45 | Aid` | when i do |
| 18:11.45 | Aid` | cat /proc/pci | grep VGA |
| 18:11.45 | Aid` | i get |
| 18:11.45 | Aid` | VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] (rev 0). |
| 18:11.45 | Aid` | how can i find that for debian? |
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| 18:11.45 | abrotman | mejo: i can guess xor may have something to do with umask .. but i can't be certain |
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| 18:12.19 | pm_ | how can i access an app that is running with nohup? |
| 18:12.35 | Aid` | how can i find the VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] (rev 0). pro savage driver? |
| 18:13.04 | abrotman | i thought that driver was in X now |
| 18:13.25 | Aid` | I need 3d acceleration |
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| 18:13.33 | mejo | abrotman: thanks i'll search google for xor combined with umask. "xor manpage" or "/usr/bin/xor" doesn't give any information. |
| 18:13.35 | abrotman | !savage |
| 18:13.36 | dpkg | http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html |
| 18:13.48 | agilman | does anyone here use ffproxy? |
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| 18:14.15 | Flogiston | abrotman i restartded apache2 after installing the lib but when i try to open my phpsysinfo link ff ask if i want to open index.php |
| 18:14.24 | Aid` | abrotman: my chip name isn't on there |
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| 18:14.40 | abrotman | the only other driver i can think of is the unichrome stuff |
| 18:14.42 | abrotman | !unichrome |
| 18:14.43 | dpkg | i heard unichrome is the graphics core found on many recent VIA chipsets. Namely, VIA CLE266, KM400/KN400, K8M800/K8N800, PM800/PM880/CN400. See http://unichrome.sf.net/ or bother libv. see <xorg sarge> |
| 18:14.48 | abrotman | Aid`: but i'm not sure that's for you either |
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| 18:15.17 | abrotman | Flogiston: you need the AddType line .. check the docs at php.net |
| 18:15.27 | Cyorxamp | Hi, there is an issue with the installer where it goes on about 'no installable kernel found' when cdroms/hdd are arranged in a certain way on IDE channels - basically a bug, can anyone point me in the direction of a workaround? or even the official bug report? |
| 18:15.36 | Flogiston | okey thanks again |
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| 18:17.22 | Seb | i use fglrx, and mplayer won't ever play anything fullscreen (tried pretty much all output plugins). Xine does fine. Anyone seen this before ? |
| 18:17.27 | slashseed | ls |
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| 18:17.45 | Seb | slashseed: docs/ porn/ mail/ |
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| 18:18.40 | Aid` | hey |
| 18:18.46 | redphoenix1 | hello |
| 18:18.50 | redphoenix1 | i have a problem |
| 18:19.05 | redphoenix1 | when i installed debian i told it to send logcheck and cron mail to 1 of my users |
| 18:19.08 | Aid` | i am doing a 'apt-cache search DRI' and then it searches i scroll up to see the exact name of DRI and it only shows up to G |
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| 18:19.18 | redphoenix1 | i dont want to do that anymore and want it to send it to root |
| 18:19.21 | abrotman | !drxx Aid` |
| 18:19.21 | dpkg | Aid`: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:19.28 | redphoenix1 | how can i change it again to send it to root |
| 18:19.38 | redphoenix1 | running debian unstable |
| 18:19.40 | abrotman | reconfigure logcheck ? |
| 18:20.07 | redphoenix1 | in the logcheck config it was always root |
| 18:20.21 | redphoenix1 | but i still sends mail to the other user |
| 18:20.26 | Aid` | abrotman: i change it to my driver? |
| 18:20.32 | abrotman | and enable the dri section |
| 18:20.45 | Aid` | wheres the dri |
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| 18:21.06 | abrotman | it will ask you |
| 18:21.06 | redphoenix1 | is there a command i can run to do the email over again? |
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| 18:21.25 | Aid` | you mean in the |
| 18:21.32 | redphoenix1 | somthing to reconfigure the debian system |
| 18:21.36 | Aid` | 'Select the XFree86 Server modules that should be loaded by default' |
| 18:21.37 | Aid` | ? |
| 18:21.41 | gpm | hi guys. i'm looking at a blog post in firefox that's in chinese, but all i see is a bunch of boxes with numbers and letters in them. what package(s) do i need to see the chinese characters instead of these boxes? |
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| 18:21.44 | abrotman | Aid`: i think it's after that |
| 18:21.46 | Aid` | how do i access dri then |
| 18:21.58 | redphoenix1 | ?? |
| 18:22.14 | dirwiz | does anyone have logitech g5 mouse working? |
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| 18:24.03 | dna_ | Does anyone know how to get java 1.5 up and running on a debian based system? |
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| 18:24.31 | abrotman | !install java |
| 18:24.31 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
| 18:24.51 | FliesLikeABrick | if someone on a server accidentally put unstable/testing sources into the apt sources, then did apt-get upgrade... is there any way to revert back to what there previously was on there? |
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| 18:25.37 | huhlig | format is always an option! |
| 18:25.51 | dna_ | FliesLikeABrick, I have done that a few times and I ended up upgrading debian so that I could not get it back up and running again in a gui, so I did what huhlig suggested. |
| 18:25.58 | Bucciarati | but pinnigng is a smarter one |
| 18:26.14 | FliesLikeABrick | ack, thats unfortunate |
| 18:26.25 | huhlig | you can always remove the package |
| 18:26.28 | Bucciarati | google apt pinning |
| 18:26.33 | huhlig | and flush the upgrade table |
| 18:26.43 | huhlig | do what bucc said |
| 18:27.03 | FliesLikeABrick | i just installed debian on my server and got everything set up... then someone else upgraded the whole system to unstable by accident |
| 18:27.18 | Bucciarati | ahahah "by accident" |
| 18:27.20 | FliesLikeABrick | yes |
| 18:27.24 | susperia | "someone" heh |
| 18:27.24 | FliesLikeABrick | he did apt-get upgrade <package name> |
| 18:27.25 | gpm | anyone? how can i view chinese characters in firefox (or in general)? is it a locale i need to generate? is it a package i need? i really have no idea where to start |
| 18:27.26 | huhlig | how do you do that by accident |
| 18:27.30 | pngwn | FliesLikeABrick, don't give 'someone' root access |
| 18:27.32 | FliesLikeABrick | he thought it would upgrade the one package |
| 18:27.41 | FliesLikeABrick | pngwn i'm considering reformatting and not giving that someone root access next time |
| 18:27.44 | FliesLikeABrick | i'm pretty annoyed |
| 18:27.44 | huhlig | you have to modify your apt-sources |
| 18:27.53 | FliesLikeABrick | huhlig he did that intentionally to upgrade just one package |
| 18:28.00 | FliesLikeABrick | i told him to just get the debian package for the new version |
| 18:28.09 | FliesLikeABrick | not to update the apt sources |
| 18:28.11 | huhlig | ahh |
| 18:28.14 | huhlig | apt-get install package |
| 18:28.19 | FliesLikeABrick | exactly |
| 18:28.30 | redphoenix1 | hmm base-config is not there anymore |
| 18:28.34 | redphoenix1 | how can i get it back |
| 18:28.36 | FliesLikeABrick | i'm really annoyed |
| 18:28.42 | redphoenix1 | it says its an empty package |
| 18:28.46 | abrotman | FliesLikeABrick: not really .. you're stuck |
| 18:28.46 | redphoenix1 | what is used now? |
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| 18:29.04 | FliesLikeABrick | i wanna hit this guy next time i see him |
| 18:29.12 | abrotman | do eet! |
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| 18:29.26 | abrotman | in #debian .. when things go wrong .. we get violent! |
| 18:29.44 | Aid` | abrotman: i did the dri thing it still is super duper slow |
| 18:29.47 | Aid` | what else must i do |
| 18:29.53 | FliesLikeABrick | abrotman how unstable is "unstable" ? |
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| 18:31.34 | gpm | dammit. |
| 18:31.36 | gpm | nobody noes |
| 18:31.38 | gpm | oh noes |
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| 18:32.48 | abrotman | FliesLikeABrick: things break |
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| 18:32.50 | abrotman | !sid faq |
| 18:32.50 | dpkg | sid faq is probably http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
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| 18:33.02 | soldierofthehell | oi tudo bem por ai? |
| 18:33.27 | dna_ | how do I get make-jpkg up and working it says command not found? |
| 18:33.34 | abrotman | !br |
| 18:33.34 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 18:33.41 | abrotman | dna_: install it? |
| 18:33.42 | Aid` | !dri |
| 18:33.42 | dpkg | dri is probably Direct Rendering Infrastructure, included in X. see http://dri.sourceforge.net or #dri |
| 18:33.46 | zebalin4 | I found that when I did a dist-upgrade to kde 3.5 it removed ispell and did not replace it and I had to reinstall it. FYI. |
| 18:33.52 | indes | dna_, you have kernel-package ? |
| 18:34.05 | dna_ | no kernel-package on this debian system |
| 18:34.07 | FliesLikeABrick | er wait abrotman ... its testing not unstable, is there a difference? |
| 18:34.14 | abrotman | FliesLikeABrick: stuff still breaks |
| 18:34.19 | indes | dna_, make-kpkg is part of kernel package. |
| 18:34.20 | FliesLikeABrick | unfortunate |
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| 18:34.42 | indes | dna_, apt-get install kernel-package; <whatever you were doing> |
| 18:34.54 | Aid` | garg |
| 18:35.04 | abrotman | dna_: i thought you were trying to install java ? |
| 18:35.12 | dna_ | fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
| 18:35.24 | indes | oh, java package. LOL, I hella thought he typo'd. |
| 18:35.27 | soldierofthehell | alguem fla portugues? |
| 18:35.37 | abrotman | soldierofthehell: /join #debian-br |
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| 18:36.19 | metalhedd | I'm trying to configure pure-ftpd the chroot doesn't seem to be working, I've given the user a home directory and set it to lock them into it, but when I log in, it ignores the specified home dir and goes to /home/username and also allows them full read access to the whole disk. |
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| 18:36.58 | bni | What is the name of that program that can send keyboard and mouse events over the network between different operating systems? |
| 18:37.00 | dna_ | line 150: make-jpkg: command not found; Any idea on how to get this installed so I can use the command? |
| 18:37.06 | FliesLikeABrick | bni vnc? |
| 18:37.16 | bni | FliesLikeABrick: tnx but no |
| 18:37.18 | Aid` | so how do i configure DRI? |
| 18:37.41 | OldakQuill | Could anyone suggest why the DHCPDISCOVER on my laptop has suddenly stopped working? |
| 18:37.43 | soldierofthehell | yes is tank iám son beach |
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| 18:37.49 | Krhis | What command does Linux use to delete /tmp on bootup? |
| 18:37.50 | Krhis | Been grep'ing everything today.... can't find it. |
| 18:37.55 | valdyn | Aid`: you dont have to explicitely configure it |
| 18:38.04 | Krhis | Well, Debian at least. |
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| 18:38.32 | Aid` | valdyn: well i set it up for my video card which is ProSavage so i selected 'savage' and then I ran my game and it is still slow |
| 18:38.55 | valdyn | Aid`: read your X log file |
| 18:39.08 | Aid` | i feel dumb asking this, but where is that |
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| 18:39.15 | abrotman | Krhis: bootmisc.sh |
| 18:39.21 | abrotman | err bootclean.sh |
| 18:39.22 | valdyn | Aid`: /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 18:39.25 | Krhis | Thank you, abrotman. |
| 18:39.30 | FliesLikeABrick | !etch faq |
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| 18:39.39 | abrotman | Krhis: bootclean.sh .. there's a function in there that seems to do it |
| 18:40.00 | valdyn | Aid`: Load "dri" should be in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, by default iirc |
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| 18:40.30 | Aid` | valdyn: i loaded dri in reconfigureation of xserver-xfree86 |
| 18:40.34 | Aid` | but still nothing :S |
| 18:40.39 | abrotman | check the log? |
| 18:40.56 | Aid` | i did |
| 18:40.57 | valdyn | !savage |
| 18:40.57 | dpkg | http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html |
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| 18:41.08 | beefcake | how do i change language on a box? |
| 18:41.11 | Aid` | valdyn: my chip set isn't on there |
| 18:41.21 | redphoenix1 | what commands are run when debian is installed? |
| 18:41.29 | beefcake | i want to make this box that has swedish debian display english instead |
| 18:41.31 | beefcake | is that possible? |
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| 18:41.52 | abrotman | beefcake: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 18:42.02 | beefcake | tx |
| 18:42.08 | valdyn | Aid`: your logfile would know that |
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| 18:42.22 | Aid` | valdyn: what am i looking for in my log |
| 18:42.29 | valdyn | Aid`: ( if dri is supported on your chip, for example ) |
| 18:42.33 | valdyn | Aid`: dri and EE |
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| 18:42.57 | Aid` | nope i dont see dri or EE |
| 18:43.00 | beefcake | abrotman do you happen to know which is english? |
| 18:43.03 | Woody^working | In what packet is "dig" ? |
| 18:43.15 | beefcake | en_GB ISO-8859-1 |
| 18:43.15 | beefcake | ? |
| 18:43.24 | abrotman | beefcake: depends which english .. yes .. that would be one of them |
| 18:43.35 | beefcake | the default one |
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| 18:43.44 | valdyn | Aid`: then look again, DRI is in that log as you have :Load 'dri'" in you /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
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| 18:44.19 | Aid` | okay |
| 18:44.22 | Aid` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:45.10 | valdyn | Aid`: paste the whole logfile ( not here ) so someone can read it. |
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| 18:45.33 | Aid` | valdyn: ill pm you! :p |
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| 18:45.39 | valdyn | Aid`: no! |
| 18:45.45 | valdyn | !paste |
| 18:45.45 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 18:46.08 | Aid` | ok im doing it in flood |
| 18:46.49 | valdyn | Aid`: from the link dpkg showed above : "There is currently no DRI driver for the Savages for XFree86 4.x, which means that OpenGL applications are entirely simulated in software." |
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| 18:48.13 | lunaphyte | how can i determine what package a particular file belongs to? |
| 18:48.27 | Woody^working | Can someone give me his output of "dpkg -S $(whereis dig | awk '{print $2}')" |
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| 18:48.50 | Aid` | valdyn: that means wha? |
| 18:48.57 | Aid` | i am screwed till they update? |
| 18:49.08 | croddy | Woody^working: dnsutils: /usr/bin/dig |
| 18:49.21 | Woody^working | croody: thx |
| 18:50.16 | valdyn | Aid`: more likely 'screwed till you buy supported hardware', i dont think savage drivers being developed |
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| 18:50.53 | valdyn | Aid`: but i didnt read your log yet, and i have no idea if that website is trustworthy |
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| 18:51.24 | dn4 | where can I get jpkg-package so that I can instlal java? |
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| 18:51.44 | croddy | dn4: the "java-package" package |
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| 18:52.19 | dn4 | croddy, yes I cannot find it on apt-get |
| 18:52.45 | croddy | dn4: make sure you have "contrib" sections in your sources.list |
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| 18:53.27 | dn4 | croddy, thx |
| 18:53.39 | bni | FliesLikeABrick: Synergy what was I was looking for http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ |
| 18:53.42 | zebalin4 | What is command to start mysql server. I just installed it. |
| 18:53.49 | zebalin4 | Last time I installed it, it ran out of the box. What do I have to do now? |
| 18:54.00 | croddy | zebalin4: invoke-rc.d mysql start |
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| 18:54.25 | FliesLikeABrick | thanks bni, i was kind of curious about what you were looking for anyway, thx for the link |
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| 18:54.31 | Buddha| | Could someone suggest a graphical database interface, for entering data into tables, which does not require QT? |
| 18:54.36 | dn4 | croddy, if I just did ./jdkxxx.bin and install java how do I delete java? |
| 18:54.38 | FliesLikeABrick | i'll read up on it later |
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| 18:55.03 | croddy | dn4: remove the directory that the sun installer created. it will be in `pwd` |
| 18:55.09 | zebalin4 | croddy: 2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured |
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| 18:55.40 | zebalin4 | croddy: no error when doing the invoke. |
| 18:55.41 | dn4 | pwd? |
| 18:55.57 | croddy | dn4: present working directory. wherever you were when you ran the installer |
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| 18:56.22 | dn4 | croddy, rm -R jdk1.x did the trick |
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| 18:56.36 | Oldak | Does anyone know why dhclient may have stopped working. "No DHCPOFFERS recieved. No working leases in persistant database." I know the network and cables are working. |
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| 18:57.14 | Oldak | It has previously worked - nothing about the network has changed. I recently did an "apt-get upgrade" on the machine"... |
| 18:57.24 | Oldak | Althought I believe it worked after I did this |
| 18:57.25 | zebalin4 | Isn't there some command I need to run to create some mysql databases? |
| 18:57.29 | dn4 | is C cross plateform? |
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| 18:58.01 | TGoC | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.08 | TGoC | How can i get around that? |
| 18:58.30 | croddy | activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option? |
| 18:59.03 | TGoC | Anything that get rids of that error |
| 18:59.19 | TGoC | 'where do i need to activate it? |
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| 19:01.46 | zebalin4 | mysqld_safe & FYI |
| 19:01.47 | azreal | is there something im missing? for some reason there arent but like 2 kernel-source packages available to me. |
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| 19:01.54 | redphoenix1 | how can i change what users cron and logcheck send email to everything is set to root but i still get the email |
| 19:01.56 | TGoC | croddy how do i fix / get around that? |
| 19:02.04 | redphoenix1 | ?? |
| 19:02.22 | redphoenix1 | using postfix for mail |
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| 19:04.49 | vin` | TGoC: trying to upgrade an old box? |
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| 19:05.08 | TGoC | yeah |
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| 19:05.38 | vin` | TGoC: /msg dpkg e2fsprogs loop |
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| 19:06.15 | redphoenix1 | ok nvm i found the problem mail aliases was root : myuser |
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| 19:06.50 | pm_ | there is any way to hide a process from the ps cmd? |
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| 19:07.16 | cuttinrazorblade | hi |
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| 19:10.32 | h8scenecttrs | wuts up |
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| 19:11.03 | h8scenecttrs | some1 help me i dnt understand this chat |
| 19:11.30 | kfdude | My vtys 2-6 are blank, vty1 is ok, but the rest don't have a login prompt, just plain blank. |
| 19:11.42 | bbrazil | kfdude: who -r |
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| 19:12.18 | kfdude | run-level 5 2006-01-22 10:52 last=S |
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| 19:12.32 | h8scenecttrs | can anyone see this |
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| 19:12.54 | valdyn | dn4: no |
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| 19:13.12 | bbrazil | kfdude: can you pastebin your /etc/inittab? |
| 19:13.44 | kfdude | sure, just a min.... |
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| 19:15.04 | kfdude | see http://pastebin.com/517840 for my inittab |
| 19:15.20 | valdyn | azreal: and what is the problem with that? |
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| 19:16.01 | bbrazil | kfdude: why do you have your default runlevel set to 5? |
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| 19:16.14 | valdyn | !runlevel |
| 19:16.14 | dpkg | runlevel is probably 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot, or see also runlevels |
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| 19:16.32 | OldakQuill | Anyone know what "sit0: unknown hardware address type 776" means in dhclient? |
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| 19:16.40 | kfdude | it would appear so |
| 19:16.45 | pipeline | Oldak: It's not really a very important missage. |
| 19:17.08 | OldakQuill | Well, dhclient has stopped working for me - "No DHCPOFFERS received" |
| 19:17.09 | valdyn | OldakQuill: sit0 is not a hardware device |
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| 19:17.31 | pipeline | Oldak: That's not related to the sit0 thing. |
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| 19:17.40 | pipeline | Oldak: sit0 is part of a hack for IPv6 tunnelling :P |
| 19:17.41 | OldakQuill | No network changes - an apt-get upgrade but I think network worked after that |
| 19:17.47 | OldakQuill | Ah |
| 19:18.00 | bbrazil | kfdude: you can poke the 2-6 lines to give you vtys at runlevel 5 |
| 19:18.00 | fantomas | Hi. How to grap a screen? Forgot a name of that tool :( |
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| 19:18.08 | bbrazil | fantomas: xwd? |
| 19:18.08 | OldakQuill | Also gives message "No working leases in persistent database" |
| 19:18.33 | OldakQuill | KSnapshot in KDE |
| 19:18.33 | fantomas | bbrazil: yeah! thats it, 10x :) |
| 19:18.51 | kfdude | of course! forgotten knowledge, thanks I'll edit that now |
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| 19:19.24 | bbrazil | kfdude: don't forget the init q, you should look into why its using 5 - 2 is the debian default |
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| 19:20.00 | Golfgeo | Hi all |
| 19:20.07 | sancho___ | is 2 full multiuser/networking on Debian? |
| 19:20.17 | bbrazil | sancho___: yes, 3-5 are unused |
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| 19:20.34 | sancho___ | bbrazil: no runlevel change needed to drop into X? |
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| 19:20.41 | bbrazil | sancho___: nope |
| 19:20.57 | Solid | hey how do i kill an app ? |
| 19:21.04 | sancho___ | Solid: you just said it. |
| 19:21.06 | bbrazil | Solid: kill |
| 19:21.18 | Solid | yes ive tried it but not working |
| 19:21.23 | bbrazil | -9 |
| 19:21.39 | valdyn | -9 is evil |
| 19:21.58 | sancho___ | Solid: very misbehaving apps or apps not designed to respond to SIGTERM/SIGINT might have to take a -9 |
| 19:22.04 | bbrazil | no -STOP is evil, as is -FPE |
| 19:22.10 | Solid | -bash: kill: *****: no such pid |
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| 19:22.29 | sancho___ | Solid: what is the app's real PID? |
| 19:22.42 | Solid | well i wana kill apache |
| 19:22.44 | Solid | 2 |
| 19:22.44 | juice` | is there any apt-get install way to install perl modules like 'MIME::Entity' 'MIME::Parser' 'Crypt::CBC' 'Term::ReadPassword' etc. |
| 19:22.54 | sancho___ | Solid: PID 2? try 'kill 2' |
| 19:23.01 | valdyn | Solid: i doubt your apache has 2 |
| 19:23.03 | juice` | i don't want to use cpan, maybe there is some debian way to install them ? |
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| 19:23.10 | bbrazil | juice`: dh-make-perl |
| 19:23.19 | Solid | ok hwo do i check the pid of app? |
| 19:23.29 | bbrazil | Solid: ps -fu root |
| 19:23.31 | valdyn | Solid: that said the proper way to stop apache is '/etc/init.d/apache stop' |
| 19:23.35 | bbrazil | (one of those will be httpd) |
| 19:23.38 | Solid | yes i know |
| 19:23.42 | Solid | but it wont respond |
| 19:24.01 | juice` | bbrazil: there are no already made perl modules, from the list i've given? |
| 19:24.15 | sancho___ | Solid: look at your process list. I get mine with 'ps auxwww'. You can grep this output to target a specific program name. |
| 19:24.27 | bbrazil | juice`: mime::entity is there anyway |
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| 19:24.54 | sancho___ | juice`: have you searched APT? Probably already some packages. Do some detective work. |
| 19:24.56 | Solid | ahh ok ill try to remeber that command |
| 19:25.24 | sancho___ | Solid: time to hit some docs, this is quite basic UNIX stuff. |
| 19:25.33 | Golfgeo | Have a problem with my partitions, 4 primaries in this order and size: [[win98:2.1GB][reiserfs:2.4GB][vfat:1GB][vfat0.5GB]]. The problem is that win98 doesn't use the last two partitions with 32 bit but as MS-DOS protected. Is this because the dos accesible partitions are non-contius? |
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| 19:25.52 | bbrazil | juice`: apt-file is useful |
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| 19:26.16 | kfdude | ok sorted now thanks! |
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| 19:27.31 | Solid | hmm to install perl modules cpan command is good |
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| 19:27.50 | bbrazil | Solid: don't do that, you'll break your debian |
| 19:28.03 | kfdude | i know debs uses 2, although I think the use of 5 is more common in other distros. This is something that should really be standardised. |
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| 19:28.10 | Solid | lolz ive already done that with sucess :D |
| 19:28.13 | sancho___ | bbrazil: why, is every perl module available in APT? |
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| 19:28.42 | bbrazil | sancho___: no, but the more common ones are. dh-make-perl any other you need |
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| 19:29.40 | bbrazil | sancho___: installing stuff without apt outside /usr/local is a bad idea |
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| 19:30.02 | bbrazil | s/apt/dpkg/ |
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| 19:31.24 | sancho___ | bbrazil: does it have a difficult time keeping debian-owned files seperate from local files? |
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| 19:31.41 | bbrazil | sancho___: it isn't designed for that |
| 19:32.03 | sylvisj | Where would I go for help setting up the chroot on an AMD64 install? |
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| 19:32.33 | tux0rz | hi, whats the newest version of debian? |
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| 19:32.39 | bbrazil | sylvisj: google from debian amd64 howto |
| 19:32.55 | bbrazil | tux0rz: the latest stable is Sarge (3.1r1) |
| 19:33.00 | sylvisj | I was following that, but debootstrap is never able to find a certain file |
| 19:33.09 | ronin | tux0rz: newest? sid is the newest but not recommande unles you know what your doing,sarge is the latest stable |
| 19:33.22 | tux0rz | where can I get the floppy images for it? |
| 19:33.22 | bbrazil | sylvisj: worked fine for me (i386 chroot) |
| 19:33.42 | sylvisj | Lol, said IA32 on the one I used... lemme see if yours works |
| 19:33.45 | tux0rz | I tried looking at debian.org |
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| 19:33.53 | tux0rz | but it takes me in loops to the same pages over and over lol |
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| 19:34.11 | sylvisj | Yeah this is the one I used... |
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| 19:34.15 | muhoo | how would i pass my HOME/END keys through to gnu screen? |
| 19:34.27 | bbrazil | sylvisj: IA64 is itanium iirc |
| 19:34.27 | muhoo | google, alas, is useless... "screen" is a bit to generic of a word |
| 19:34.45 | sylvisj | I know, 'Using an IA32 chroot to run 32bit applications' |
| 19:34.46 | muhoo | PGUP/PGDOWN keys go through fine |
| 19:34.48 | bbrazil | sylvisj: ignore my last comment |
| 19:34.50 | sylvisj | :P |
| 19:34.56 | vin` | tux0rz: /msg dpkg releases |
| 19:35.13 | tux0rz | ok |
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| 19:35.44 | bbrazil | muhoo: works fine here (xterm+ssh+screen) |
| 19:36.02 | sylvisj | I'll give it another try |
| 19:36.13 | Navire | Someone help with HTB? |
| 19:36.13 | Navire | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.18 | muhoo | bbrazil: using what application? |
| 19:36.22 | muhoo | or just the shell? |
| 19:36.24 | bbrazil | muhoo: bash |
| 19:36.27 | bbrazil | (readline) |
| 19:36.39 | bbrazil | muhoo: you using putty by any chance? |
| 19:36.58 | robin_sz | oh, we are doing the usual "we shipped with an out of date public key" dance ... AGAIN? |
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| 19:37.17 | Navire | HTB work fine in Debian? |
| 19:37.19 | darsie | what's the difference between kernel-image*deb and linux-image*deb? Any reason not to use linux-image-2.6.15-1-686? The latest kernel-image is 2.6.8. |
| 19:37.24 | muhoo | bbrazil: doesn't work with less, or emacs though. wonder where it's getting lost? |
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| 19:37.52 | indes | darsie, kernel.org keeps change logs of kernel versions |
| 19:37.53 | bbrazil | muhoo: *shrug*, TERM is a mysterious thing |
| 19:38.14 | muhoo | and i have tried various settings of $TERM |
| 19:38.32 | darsie | indes: Ok, but apart from kernel version linux-image* and kernel-image* are equivalent? |
| 19:38.44 | bbrazil | darsie: the name - debian is preparing for non-linux kernels (kFreeBSD, HURD etc.) |
| 19:38.54 | bbrazil | muhoo: messed with stty? |
| 19:38.55 | darsie | ic thx |
| 19:39.16 | muhoo | bbrazil: nope. what do you suggest? |
| 19:39.26 | bbrazil | muhoo: messing with stty |
| 19:39.37 | muhoo | :-) |
| 19:39.41 | Navire | Hi |
| 19:39.47 | muhoo | can you be a bit more vague and ambiguous? |
| 19:40.01 | Navire | QBQ x HTB help me |
| 19:40.07 | Navire | CBQ |
| 19:40.23 | bbrazil | muhoo: push the thingy beside the other thing |
| 19:40.26 | Gathond | ll |
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| 19:40.43 | bbrazil | muhoo: stty -a, see if anything is off. 'cat' is also useful |
| 19:40.50 | muhoo | cat what? |
| 19:40.59 | muhoo | cat /dev/random ? :-) |
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| 19:41.08 | bbrazil | muhoo: just cat, handy for debugging function keys |
| 19:41.13 | muhoo | ah |
| 19:41.25 | muhoo | that's what i was going to ask next, thanks |
| 19:42.03 | muhoo | so HOME is ^[[7~, end is ^[[8~ |
| 19:42.04 | astronut | how do you change the language of selected text in open office? |
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| 19:42.07 | bbrazil | muhoo: you never answered as to whether you were using PuTTy |
| 19:42.15 | muhoo | sorry, no i am not using putty. |
| 19:42.19 | muhoo | just rxvt |
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| 19:42.31 | bbrazil | thats beyond my knowledge |
| 19:42.39 | jair_11 | guys I have this log file on my debian computer and I want to get rid of it but the language I am using on my debian is US english and the name of this file looks like deutsch. !jirka debian_binary_package_building_howto |
| 19:42.42 | muhoo | xterm, basically |
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| 19:42.47 | jair_11 | sorry |
| 19:43.07 | jair_11 | this one is the file: Äš˙˙ţĚ˙˙ţź˙ţ¸oč$$T˙˙ţŘEuö˙˙ţĚľ˙˙˙JŔŔ1˙˙Ď´č˙˙é9č$E$D$TČ)đ˙˙ţŔ˙˙ţĐ˙˙ţÄtuŔ¸ë^?ř9Đ)˙˙ţĐđ˙˙ţĐ~ř9Č)đÖ)Ţ |
| 19:43.18 | bbrazil | muhoo: try a crtl-left click, that rings up some handy options with xterm |
| 19:43.20 | muhoo | whoa, teco macros! |
| 19:43.20 | yoann_ | i got a problem with my xserver ,every time i stop it , it restart directly , someone know why ? |
| 19:43.45 | bbrazil | yoann_: how are you stopping it? |
| 19:44.03 | zamaliphe | hi gues |
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| 19:44.20 | yoann_ | i have try that kill -9 `pidof X` |
| 19:44.27 | yoann_ | and ctrl - alt -back |
| 19:44.31 | nesys | Uninitialised timer! This is just a warning. Your computer is OK |
| 19:44.35 | nesys | what about that? |
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| 19:44.52 | bbrazil | yoann_: /etc/init.d/xdm stop (replace xdm with gdm,kdm as appropriate) |
| 19:44.53 | yoann_ | and i got a blackscreen , and one second after i'm back on the login menu |
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| 19:47.08 | muhoo | aha! and gnu screen expects \033[1~ for home! |
| 19:47.23 | muhoo | and \033[4~ for end. wtf? totally different |
| 19:47.49 | muhoo | cool, if i set it to ^[[7~ and ^[[8~, should work |
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| 19:48.20 | devsforev | Anyone know how I save my iptables rules in debian? |
| 19:48.32 | bbrazil | /etc/init.d/iptables save (iirc) |
| 19:48.58 | bbrazil | devsforev: you might want to consider something like shorewall |
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| 19:49.42 | devsforev | bbrazil: oddly enought, I have iptables installed, yet there is no script in /etc/init.d/ for iptables! any toughts tehre? |
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| 19:50.12 | bbrazil | devsforev: there is an iptables-save script or something. the maintainer really doesn't like it though |
| 19:50.15 | darsie | devsforev: I write the iptables in a script myself. |
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| 19:51.08 | muhoo | now what i'm not sure of, is whether the bindkey command in screen changes the *interpretation* of incoming characters, or what it sends to the underlying program |
| 19:51.32 | debtoo | does anyone know why my sound is always muted/turned off when I start the machine and then i have to unmute it to listen to anything? |
| 19:51.42 | muhoo | i.e. "kh" is home, is set to "stuff ^[[1~" |
| 19:51.45 | bbrazil | debtoo: saftey default in the kernel |
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| 19:52.03 | bbrazil | debtoo: see setmixer |
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| 19:52.06 | muhoo | so i can't figure out whether screen is *getting* the correct keycode, and interpreting it properly, and just sending something irrelevant to the underlying app |
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| 19:52.30 | muhoo | or whether it is unable to make sense of the ^[[7~ that cat says it is sending |
| 19:52.36 | Navire | Anyone help me with HTB |
| 19:52.43 | bbrazil | muhoo: write a quick C program with scanf to find out? |
| 19:53.03 | muhoo | good idea. |
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| 19:53.15 | sancho___ | devsforev: see the securing debian guide on debian.org for some ideas on how to get your iptables rules to come up with your interface |
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| 19:53.33 | sancho___ | Navire: ??? |
| 19:53.41 | bbrazil | muhoo: when you find the answer I'd very much like to know. I'm going to have a full scale war in a week or so due to screen+putty+backspace |
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| 19:53.49 | debtoo | is this a debian thing or a generic thing? |
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| 19:54.13 | bbrazil | debtoo: linux thing - as of 2.6 iirc |
| 19:54.39 | debtoo | thanks for the info |
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| 19:57.52 | drasko | hi all. I wanted to ak what version of kernel does the testing (etch) now have -- 2.6? |
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| 19:58.05 | airox | hi |
| 19:58.09 | Xeno^ | heh... you guys are gna love me by next week :) |
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| 19:58.20 | muhoo | these are all in octal, right? |
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| 19:58.37 | drasko | Also, I wanted to ask how to download unstable version on a cd? Where to find these images? |
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| 19:59.25 | bbrazil | !iyhtays |
| 19:59.25 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
| 19:59.35 | airox | I installed ubuntu and I know my monitor can have 1600x1200 so I added the HorizSync and VertRefresh to my xorg.conf config file. Now I can run 1600x1200. But I can't seem to run 1280x1024 in refresh rates higher then 75Hz. How could this be ? |
| 19:59.36 | gteppel | I have a box that is running Debian/stable its acting a home gateway/router firewall (its also running httpd, samba, postgresql) anyways I'm constantly getting these types of messages output to the console: "sent an invalid icmp type 3, code 3 error to a broadcast" Whats going on? |
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| 19:59.46 | bbrazil | airox: #ubuntu |
| 19:59.59 | airox | I know, but you folks over here know more about linux ;) |
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| 20:00.06 | jimb0 | airox they will flame you |
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| 20:00.09 | jimb0 | get out while you still can |
| 20:00.09 | drasko | hi all. I wanted to as what version of kernel does the testing (etch) now have -- 2.6? |
| 20:00.13 | drasko | Also, I wanted to ask how to download unstable version on a cd? Where to find these images? |
| 20:00.20 | airox | And I guess it's not really any distro related. |
| 20:00.21 | Web-kanotix631 | Hello all. Is there any support in debian / linux kernel for reiser4? |
| 20:00.32 | jimb0 | i wouldn't think so either, but they will give you a hard time. |
| 20:00.35 | _rene_ | hoepfully not |
| 20:00.39 | jimb0 | next time dont mention that you use ubuntu. |
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| 20:00.46 | Xeno^ | <-- Complete Linux noob, looking for help... although im slightly unsure of where to start.... |
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| 20:00.53 | jimb0 | #linux, google |
| 20:00.57 | bbrazil | Web-kanotix631: tools are there anyway, dunno if the kernel has it, but I'd assume so |
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| 20:01.00 | airox | jimb0: Ok. I should add a regex replace on ubuntu ;D |
| 20:01.09 | jimb0 | yeah |
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| 20:01.15 | valdyn | Web-kanotix631: its not in linux mainline so not in debian kernels |
| 20:01.18 | airox | or /any/ distro |
| 20:01.25 | Web-kanotix631 | Meh. |
| 20:01.34 | beginer | i have a pppoe connection... sometimes, the connection go down... what i need to do for auto reconnect |
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| 20:01.47 | bbrazil | Web-kanotix631: don't forget the standard warning - reiser *eats* data |
| 20:01.49 | valdyn | Web-kanotix631: you shouldnt use it anyway if you cant figure out how to run it, its _not_ a stable fs |
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| 20:02.03 | drasko | Anyone? Is etch still running with 2.4 kernel? Or is it now 2.6? |
| 20:02.12 | bbrazil | drasko: it has 2.6 |
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| 20:02.17 | drasko | cool |
| 20:02.24 | gravity | drasko: Even sarge has a 2.6 kernel available |
| 20:02.37 | Web-kanotix631 | I know that it's not stable, but I'm doing some research on filesystem stegonography, and I would like to try out using reiser4, even though my main focus is on reiser3 / reiserfs. |
| 20:02.38 | ilgufo | hi |
| 20:02.50 | bbrazil | airox: have you checked your monitor's manual? |
| 20:02.51 | drasko | gravity, I had sarge installed untill recently and it had 2.4 |
| 20:02.54 | raz0rsedge | Hi. Which package of libgd should i use if i need gif support? apt-get install libgd* |
| 20:03.00 | bbrazil | drasko: sarge also has 2.4 |
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| 20:03.41 | gravity | drasko: By default yes, it's 2.4. You can easily override that or install 2.6 after you install 2.4. There's 2.6.8 packages in sarge. |
| 20:03.55 | airox | bbrazil: yes |
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| 20:04.10 | airox | bbrazil: I searched the correct horizsync and vertrefresh lines for it. |
| 20:04.31 | airox | It only got me to 1600x1200. |
| 20:04.41 | drasko | Anyway, I wanted not to compile kernel, so does etch COME with 2.6, or I'll have to compile new kernel version myself? |
| 20:04.43 | bbrazil | airox: I don't know x.org at all, and use the defaults for xfree86 |
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| 20:05.59 | bbrazil | drasko: if you're installing from scratch, boot with linux26 |
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| 20:06.28 | drasko | bbrazil, thanks! |
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| 20:06.40 | Xeno^ | Anyone willing to help a complete noob ? Got a server running, port forwarding etc, all I want to use it for is a webserver ( php / mysql ) but now I have the server up.. not sure what to do, currently looking through help pages and files, which is how I found here... |
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| 20:07.19 | beginer | i have a pppoe connection... sometimes, the connection go down... what i need to do for auto reconnect... any ideea? |
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| 20:07.29 | airox | thanks for help, i will go and try xvidtune or something now |
| 20:07.48 | drasko | bbrazil, do you mean, when I insert CD then not pres enter, but F1 to go to options and selectr boot with 26? Right? |
| 20:08.02 | bbrazil | drasko: type linux26 and press enter |
| 20:08.24 | drasko | bbrazil, wow? How the hack could I know that? |
| 20:08.26 | bbrazil | Xeno^: do you have a question? |
| 20:08.40 | bbrazil | drasko: if you press f1 it should say it :) |
| 20:08.52 | drasko | bbrazil, thanks! |
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| 20:09.16 | Xeno^ | Yes but no, im not entirely sure where I'm sposed to go with it now. I have the server up and running and can ssh remotely, but as I'm completely new to Linux im not sure how to get files across to install apache / mysql / php |
| 20:09.35 | bbrazil | Xeno^: aptitude install apache2 mysql-server php-cgi |
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| 20:10.37 | Xeno^ | ./love bbrazil |
| 20:10.38 | dani | hi |
| 20:10.39 | Xeno^ | thank you :) |
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| 20:12.06 | netcrusher88 | my external hard drive (ipod actually) repeatedly disconnects in the midst of file transfers, over usb. How can i prevent this? |
| 20:12.26 | bbrazil | Xeno^: there's more to it than that, and the above instructions are probably a bit off |
| 20:12.45 | Xeno^ | its something to work from, il try and figure out the rest:) at least its getting me somewhere now |
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| 20:13.04 | bbrazil | Xeno^: one you'll probably need is 'a2enmod php4' |
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| 20:13.31 | Xeno^ | *notes down* ;) ty greatly! |
| 20:14.07 | sylvisj | Ok, I'm having problems when setting up the i386 chroot on the AMD64 distro. I keep getting this error during the first debootstrap part: E: Couldn't download libsigc++-1.2-5c102 |
| 20:14.12 | sylvisj | How do I fix this? |
| 20:14.29 | bbrazil | sylvisj: try a different mirror? |
| 20:14.39 | sylvisj | What other mirros are there? |
| 20:14.43 | sylvisj | I don't have any list... |
| 20:14.47 | sylvisj | nor do I know where to find one. |
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| 20:15.10 | netcrusher88 | where can i find help for the linux usb subsystem then? |
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| 20:15.18 | bbrazil | !mirrors |
| 20:15.18 | dpkg | i guess debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 20:16.07 | jimb0 | so why is dhcp on debian installs retarded? |
| 20:16.27 | petemc | jimb0: hows that? |
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| 20:17.49 | jimb0 | it just never works. |
| 20:18.02 | jimb0 | ive tried the latest 3.1rev1 minimal cd first. |
| 20:18.11 | jimb0 | assumed maybe it was missing something, so i'm using the dvd now, same problem. |
| 20:18.12 | petemc | jimb0: obviously it does, you're doing something wrong |
| 20:18.28 | jimb0 | except that i just popped the disk in the drive |
| 20:18.34 | jimb0 | for a fresh install |
| 20:18.40 | jimb0 | i didn't do anything wrong yet. |
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| 20:19.02 | paez | buenas |
| 20:19.07 | paez | alguien habla espańol |
| 20:19.14 | pinucset | yo |
| 20:19.22 | petemc | jimb0: you understand you need to have a driver to make your network card work |
| 20:19.23 | pinucset | pero mejor vayas a debian-es xD |
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| 20:19.39 | pinucset | one think, if i try to install kopete in my debian unstable it asks for libmeanwhile0 and i dont find this library anyway... please help... |
| 20:19.52 | paez | disculpa |
| 20:20.00 | paez | yo hice una actualizacion |
| 20:20.01 | jetscreamer | !es |
| 20:20.01 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:20.22 | jimb0 | petemc: that at least makes sense to me. |
| 20:20.35 | jimb0 | that's all i can gather is going on. |
| 20:20.45 | jimb0 | kind of wish it would autodetect network driver for a minimal install |
| 20:20.56 | petemc | jimb0: it does, for most common chipsets |
| 20:21.00 | jimb0 | doubt it's that hard, seeing as every livecd ive ever tried worked fine. |
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| 20:21.17 | petemc | jimb0: what nic do you have? |
| 20:21.26 | jimb0 | it's an onboard nic on my laptop. |
| 20:21.38 | jimb0 | i can't remember brand/model. |
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| 20:21.48 | jimb0 | (of the nic) |
| 20:21.49 | beefcake | evening how do i search for packages in apt-get |
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| 20:21.53 | beefcake | i need to install tcl |
| 20:21.57 | jimb0 | it's a toshiba laptop, and new |
| 20:22.01 | petemc | beefcake: apt-cache search foo |
| 20:22.04 | beefcake | tx |
| 20:22.05 | petemc | jimb0: find out |
| 20:22.58 | netcat | jimb0: you might try: lspci -v |
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| 20:23.30 | jimb0 | okay. |
| 20:23.33 | EnsignRedshirt | Hello, world. |
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| 20:23.42 | jimb0 | that or dmesg i imagine? |
| 20:23.50 | pureone | its a hello world irc bot! |
| 20:24.04 | dudu1 | hello, sorry for my english, i m french |
| 20:24.18 | bbrazil | !fr |
| 20:24.18 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 20:24.43 | EnsignRedshirt | If I install apache2, will it automatically start up the server or set up the configuration so that it starts automatically on the next reboot? |
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| 20:24.54 | bbrazil | EnsignRedshirt: yes |
| 20:25.01 | muhoo | bbrazil: gotit! |
| 20:25.02 | dudu1 | when you want to install gnome on a debian testing, what are the packets you must to install to have the sound correctly, thanks |
| 20:25.12 | dudu1 | alsa and alsa-utils ? |
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| 20:25.16 | dudu1 | that is correct |
| 20:25.22 | EnsignRedshirt | bbrazil: Thanks. Are the default configuration settings reasonably "safe"? |
| 20:25.32 | bbrazil | EnsignRedshirt: yes |
| 20:25.33 | muhoo | answwer is, in screen, C-a : to get into command mode,then |
| 20:25.56 | thingfish | dudu1: alsa-base and alsa-utils |
| 20:25.56 | muhoo | bindkey "\033[8~" stuff \033[4~ |
| 20:26.02 | muhoo | bindkey "\033[7~" stuff \033[1~ |
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| 20:26.05 | dudu1 | only these |
| 20:26.07 | muhoo | and bob's your uncle |
| 20:26.10 | bbrazil | muhoo: stuff? |
| 20:26.14 | muhoo | that |
| 20:26.20 | muhoo | that's what it says |
| 20:26.21 | dudu1 | no libesd-alsa0 |
| 20:26.24 | thingfish | dudu1: that should be sufficient. |
| 20:26.27 | muhoo | bbrazil: i shit you not. |
| 20:26.36 | dudu1 | thanks |
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| 20:27.02 | dudu1 | what do you think, i must to install gnome or gnome-desktop-environment |
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| 20:27.16 | bbrazil | muhoo: ah, a screen command |
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| 20:27.22 | thingfish | !tell dudu1 about install gnome |
| 20:27.26 | wuming | my debian file server crashed last night, which log file should i look at to find out the cause? |
| 20:27.35 | dudu1 | yes |
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| 20:27.52 | dudu1 | ok |
| 20:27.56 | muhoo | alternately, you could adjust the screen termcap perhaps, to use kh=\E[7~:kH=\E[8~ |
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| 20:28.14 | muhoo | but editing termcaps makes the little hairs on the back of my neck stand up |
| 20:28.21 | bbrazil | muhoo: yeah, thanks for that |
| 20:28.26 | muhoo | np |
| 20:28.35 | bbrazil | wuming: /var/log/messages to start with |
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| 20:28.52 | wuming | ok |
| 20:29.23 | dudu1 | what do you think about testing, is it correct for a pc for my house ? |
| 20:29.35 | dudu1 | or sarge is better ?! |
| 20:29.40 | bbrazil | muhoo: you could create a new termcap entry and use screen -T |
| 20:30.23 | thingfish | dudu1: sarge. testing is for testers. |
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| 20:31.18 | huhlig | can someone tell me what I screwed up on this line |
| 20:31.20 | huhlig | push(@{$self->{Handlers}},Serialport->open_port($self->{Port} ); |
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| 20:31.48 | dudu1 | thanks |
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| 20:32.36 | radz | hi all |
| 20:32.41 | dudu1 | hi |
| 20:32.59 | paistis | hi |
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| 20:33.01 | azreal | is there a reason wky kernel-source-2.6x wouldnt show up on a new install? |
| 20:33.12 | radz | has anyone linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 and related packages? I spent a day for compiling kernel... |
| 20:33.24 | thingfish | azreal: because kernel-source is not installed by default. |
| 20:33.43 | Eulex | radz, it's in testing. just get the image from there and dpkg -i it. |
| 20:33.48 | azreal | show up=available in list of available packages? |
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| 20:34.10 | bbrazil | azreal: apt-cache search is your friend |
| 20:34.16 | radz | Eulex, where? give me the place, I tried google but not successful |
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| 20:34.36 | radz | it was in testing... |
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| 20:35.07 | Eulex | radz, I'd point to packages.debian.org, but it's down now. meanwhile, get it from ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/. |
| 20:35.08 | azreal | bbrazil: apt-cache search kernel-source-2.6, does nothing |
| 20:35.12 | sylvisj | Ok, still getting that same error, bbrazil: |
| 20:35.22 | sylvisj | even with 5 different mirrors |
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| 20:35.39 | dr_strangelove | help !!! ... i just made a "chmod -R root.root /" on my system .... is it possible to get the old user settings back? |
| 20:35.52 | Eulex | azreal, is this woody, sarge, etch or sid? |
| 20:35.52 | dr_strangelove | i'm an idiot ... |
| 20:36.09 | wuming | what " -- MARK --" in /var/log/messages mean? |
| 20:36.12 | azreal | Eulex: sid |
| 20:36.22 | bbrazil | wuming: its just a thing cron puts in every so often |
| 20:36.34 | thingfish | no wonder. look for linux-source instead. |
| 20:36.43 | Eulex | azreal, in sid and etch it's linux-source, not kernel-source |
| 20:36.52 | bbrazil | wuming: the theory being that if your system goes down while its quiet (i.e. no other log messages) you can figure out roughly when it crashed |
| 20:37.02 | azreal | Eulex: ahh, i figured it was something like that, thanx alot. |
| 20:37.05 | Xeno^ | Could installing Apache have adverse effects on your internet connection :/ just installed it and I cant appear to load any webpages anymore O_o |
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| 20:37.15 | bbrazil | sylvisj: haven't a clue |
| 20:37.30 | sylvisj | Help, people: when doing the first debootstrap part for setting up the i386 chroot on the AMD64 distro, I keep getting this error: 'E: Couldn't download libsigc++=1.2-5c102'. |
| 20:37.37 | sylvisj | bbrazil: :( |
| 20:38.02 | bbrazil | sylvisj: obvious questions - firewall blocking ftp/http? |
| 20:38.16 | Xeno^ | hmm thats true ive just set it up for forwarding. ;) thanks again |
| 20:38.25 | sylvisj | bbrazil: Neg. I can get all the other packages fine, and apt is working. No hardware firewall. |
| 20:38.34 | sylvisj | No firewall at all, yet. |
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| 20:38.37 | radz | Eulex, how to add this repository to my sources?? |
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| 20:38.57 | Eulex | radz, just get the .deb. no need to add the full repository. |
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| 20:39.42 | IdahoEv | what are the options for apt-get to (1) search for package names containing certain text and (2) check if a certain package is installed? |
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| 20:39.56 | bbrazil | dr_strangelove: fixing /home is pretty easy, beyond that I don't know |
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| 20:40.03 | sylvisj | apt-cache search <blah>, apt-get check <blah> iirc |
| 20:40.11 | Eulex | IdahoEv, (1) apt-cache search keyword --names-only (2) apt-cache policy pkgname |
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| 20:40.16 | humpi | is it possible to remotely start a computer? |
| 20:40.24 | Kluster_v2 | yes |
| 20:40.27 | radz | Eulex, ok, thank you |
| 20:40.32 | sylvisj | Heavily dependant, humpi. |
| 20:40.33 | bbrazil | humpi: yes, wake-up-over-lan, ipmi |
| 20:40.38 | IdahoEv | eulex/sylvisj: many thanks |
| 20:40.43 | sylvisj | Np |
| 20:40.56 | Eulex | IdahoEv, yw |
| 20:41.09 | Kluster_v2 | humpi, all you need is to hook a simple circuit to it that can be activated, let's say by the phone.. you call, send the dtmf code or something and it turns it on |
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| 20:41.17 | Xeno^ | Fixed, thanks again bbrazil :) |
| 20:41.20 | Eulex | IdahoEv, btw, if you don't use --named-only on when searching, it will search package descriptions too, just not package names. |
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| 20:41.31 | Eulex | *--names-only |
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| 20:41.49 | Xeno^ | bbrazil: Your going to be fed up of my questions by the end of the night;) hehe |
| 20:42.06 | humpi | mabye a timer... |
| 20:42.15 | Eulex | !wol |
| 20:42.15 | dpkg | hmm... wol is wake-on-lan |
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| 20:42.22 | Eulex | humpi, ^^ |
| 20:42.27 | humpi | ok, thanks |
| 20:42.50 | IdahoEv | another one: is there an easy command to switch which services run during init? IIRC redhat has a convenient tool for this |
| 20:43.11 | bbrazil | IdahoEv: update-rc.d |
| 20:43.25 | humpi | oh, so if its not in bios i dont have it? |
| 20:43.26 | dudu1 | where can i see if gnome freeze when i start it ? |
| 20:43.30 | dudu1 | is there a log ? |
| 20:43.32 | sylvisj | humpi: exactly. |
| 20:43.33 | bbrazil | IdahoEv: see also: file-rc |
| 20:43.35 | Eulex | humpi, correct |
| 20:43.44 | sylvisj | humpi: That's why it's heavily dependant on things (remote starting) |
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| 20:43.55 | humpi | yup, damn cheap dell |
| 20:44.04 | bbrazil | humpi: poweredge? |
| 20:44.05 | sylvisj | Dell ftl. |
| 20:44.06 | IdahoEv | bbrazil: muchas gracias. Amazing how much more useful people are than the docs... :-P |
| 20:44.11 | diesel_ | I tried messaging dpkg about the 2006 key and there was no message |
| 20:44.21 | Eulex | !2006 key |
| 20:44.21 | dpkg | [2006 key] apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. installing this package may not be auto-verifiable; OR! you can install the key as follow, explicitly trusting the keyserver with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update |
| 20:44.23 | sylvisj | IdahoEv: You'll find out that's false if you go AMD64 :P |
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| 20:44.29 | humpi | no, its just an old demension |
| 20:44.36 | Eulex | diesel_, ^^ |
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| 20:45.27 | IdahoEv | sylvsj: will keep that in mind. AMD64 is several years away for me. (my deb servers are usually leftover PCs that I've retired) |
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| 20:46.14 | sylvisj | IdahoEv: ^_^ In that case, you're lucky. Should be an AMD64 official release out soon, with a lot less of this hassle. |
| 20:46.23 | humpi | lol it kind of got thrown, even the cd drive just kind of shuts down randomly, i had to put the floppy package of debian on a CD just to get it to install, floppy doesn't even come close to working |
| 20:46.36 | sylvisj | Wow... that's pretty sad. |
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| 20:47.15 | humpi | networkinstall would make the cd shutdown about halfway through just loading, many hours of WTF |
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| 20:48.27 | Nihilanth | hi, are there any icewm users in here? I'm having a bit of trouble removing the menu debian puts on there by default. |
| 20:48.42 | cbx33 | Hi all, i need a debian package/php guru :p |
| 20:49.16 | ke6isf | !tell cbx33 -about ask |
| 20:49.56 | cbx33 | ke6isf, my apologies |
| 20:50.18 | cbx33 | i need to rebuild the php5 package with a different install dir to enable a coexistance of php5 and php4 |
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| 20:50.42 | cbx33 | i've tried adding the line prefix=**** to the common configure line in the rules file |
| 20:50.52 | cbx33 | but it screws up libapache rebuilding |
| 20:50.58 | cbx33 | and gurus here able to help out |
| 20:51.10 | ke6isf | cbx33: Thought about asking in #php? |
| 20:51.34 | cbx33 | yes, thought I'd try both |
| 20:51.37 | andrew_p | Anyone remembers what is the maximum number of logical partitions on an extended one? |
| 20:51.39 | cbx33 | this was my first shot |
| 20:51.50 | cbx33 | andrew_p, i can look it up |
| 20:51.59 | cbx33 | 64 intotal iirc |
| 20:52.14 | andrew_p | Oh, that's enough, thanks :=) |
| 20:52.30 | humpi | what is SSH challenge-response authentication? |
| 20:52.38 | RainbowW | looking for some help with email management. does somebody know of an email system that works sort of like a ticket system, but is suitable for a single user? i'm thinking something like OTRS but perhaps not so complex |
| 20:52.51 | cbx33 | 60 logicalpartitions |
| 20:53.05 | andrew_p | cbx33, thanks :) |
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| 20:53.37 | bbrazil | RainbowW: I can only suggest RT (request-tracker3.2 in debian iirc), meant more for multi-user - but it could work |
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| 20:54.24 | andrew_p | is it safe to operate with parted on the disk which is a system disk and if a few partitions from there are currently mounted? |
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| 20:54.42 | bbrazil | andrew_p: if you're careful |
| 20:55.32 | cbx33 | very careful |
| 20:55.43 | andrew_p | you mean no extensive read/write operations ot something else? |
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| 20:56.19 | bbrazil | andrew_p: don't shrink anything in use, don't alter any extended partition that conatins a mounted logical partition |
| 20:56.25 | muhoo | bbrazil: where are these termcap files kept? |
| 20:56.34 | bbrazil | muhoo: /etc/termcap |
| 20:56.38 | muhoo | thx |
| 20:56.46 | muhoo | terminfo? |
| 20:56.47 | IdahoEv | what is needed to enable sudo? |
| 20:57.04 | andrew_p | extended partition that conatins a mounted logical partition is mine case :( |
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| 20:57.16 | bbrazil | muhoo: thats the ncurses rather than slang version. see also tic, toe |
| 20:57.29 | andrew_p | er... i once had slackware on the first disk, so I will install parted there :) |
| 20:57.33 | bbrazil | IdahoEv: aptitude install sudo && visudo |
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| 20:57.58 | IdahoEv | bbrazil: thx! |
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| 20:59.17 | bbrazil | muhoo: I'm guessing that debian has standarised on terminfo |
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| 21:01.45 | muhoo | tic translates from source to compiled, but how do i decompile a terminfo to find out wtf is in it? |
| 21:01.55 | muhoo | neither infotocap or captoinfo seem to do it |
| 21:02.20 | muhoo | ah |
| 21:02.21 | muhoo | infocmp |
| 21:02.56 | rudenstam | I'm having some problems with preseeding my installation... when I get to the preseed part I get error "The installer failed to loailed to load the preconfiguration file from http://192.168.0.1/rudenstam/preseed.cfg. The file may be corrupt" tried first with my own preseed and then wich example file.. get same error on both |
| 21:03.05 | Matcher | must go today message me if interestedon aim at mikcomputing, msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or yahoo at mcsltd2 only if your interested and want to buy! . prices are 550 each includes shipping case and wireless router.2 alienware products, 1 area51-m 5700 notebook, and one area51 7500 desktop tower system. |
| 21:03.24 | muhoo | infocmp is cool. very cool |
| 21:03.31 | RainbowW | somebody ban that cocksucker please. |
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| 21:04.19 | pm_ | how can i create a encrypted file and mount it as a storage drive? there is any app to this? or tutorial? |
| 21:04.24 | Oryn | does anyone know how to exclude udev from loading some modules? |
| 21:04.40 | bbrazil | !blacklist |
| 21:04.41 | dpkg | i guess blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 21:04.47 | streuner | Oryn: udev don't load any modules |
| 21:05.00 | rudenstam | anyone who can help me with preseeding ? |
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| 21:05.17 | huhlig | join #perl |
| 21:05.31 | rudenstam | +/ |
| 21:05.31 | rudenstam | :) |
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| 21:05.42 | Oryn | streuner: well what does? udev forced me to remove hotplug, so I'm assuming it is loading modules |
| 21:05.47 | Xeno^ | is phpmyadmin a seperate application from mysql-server install? |
| 21:06.03 | rudenstam | Xeno^: yes |
| 21:06.09 | Xeno^ | ty |
| 21:06.12 | rudenstam | phpmyadmin is just a bunch of php scripts |
| 21:06.34 | Xeno^ | does it come with Debian or is it seperate? |
| 21:06.34 | Eulex | Xeno^, umh, why would they be in the same package? |
| 21:06.46 | Xeno^ | I'm a noob how would I know :P Hence why I'm asking:) |
| 21:06.53 | rudenstam | Xeno^: don't think it's .deb as it's no binaries in it |
| 21:07.04 | rudenstam | afaik |
| 21:07.10 | Eulex | Xeno^, apt-get install phpmyadmin |
| 21:07.14 | Eulex | !n00b |
| 21:07.14 | dpkg | somebody said n00b was l33t jargon for newbie. |
| 21:07.18 | Eulex | !noob |
| 21:07.18 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 21:07.23 | bbrazil | rudenstam: eh, there's lots of perl, python, php only packages in debian |
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| 21:07.51 | rudenstam | bbrazil: oh ? that seems odd as it's just download and change conf.. |
| 21:07.57 | rudenstam | guess I learn every day :) |
| 21:08.05 | rudenstam | bbrazil: now help me with preseeding instead :) |
| 21:08.07 | bbrazil | rudenstam: yes, but think security support |
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| 21:08.15 | rudenstam | bbrazil: true |
| 21:08.17 | bbrazil | rudenstam: I don't know what that is |
| 21:08.30 | rudenstam | ack! |
| 21:08.31 | Xeno^ | cheers again ! |
| 21:09.06 | bbrazil | rudenstam: also debin has some coolish stuff for multiple uses of the one install for phpbb for example |
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| 21:09.57 | CasaNova_ | hoping someone here is good at regexp - I am trying to copy code from a website into vi and it keeps getting crazy indentation when pasted - how can I remove the extra tabbing or indents? I am trying :%s/^^I\.*/^I\2/g but it's not finding the TAB not sure what I need to use as a TAB or whitespace at beginning of line... |
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| 21:10.24 | stew | CasaNova_: ":set paste" before you paste |
| 21:10.31 | Squarepants | hi |
| 21:10.51 | Eulex | hi spongebob |
| 21:10.52 | CasaNova_ | stew: Oh OK that shoudl be easy enough :-) I'm assuming that's one for vimrc? |
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| 21:11.12 | Squarepants | question: is there some command... |
| 21:11.25 | Squarepants | with which i can download files from the web, like cp? |
| 21:11.27 | stew | CasaNova_: you can type that into vi before you paste to turn of indenting, the paste, then ":set nopaste" to change it back |
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| 21:11.46 | streuner | Squarepants: wget? |
| 21:11.51 | gloin | whoo, long list of /names here =] |
| 21:12.04 | CasaNova_ | stew OK thanks |
| 21:12.06 | gloin | Small question about setting up a printer with CUPS on a testing box: the printer sends test pages in A4 and I need to modify to US Letter. Admin page when I go to configure printer throws "server-error-service-unavailable" - how do I fix this error and what's the syntax in printers.conf or cupsd.conf to change default page size? |
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| 21:12.21 | stew | CasaNova_: ":help paste" will give you more info |
| 21:12.39 | streuner | Squarepants: look at man (tkinfo) wget |
| 21:13.03 | Squarepants | a ha |
| 21:13.04 | CasaNova_ | stew: Thanks |
| 21:13.15 | Squarepants | i was sure there was something like that, i just couldnt guess the name ;p |
| 21:13.29 | CasaNova_ | gloin: the cups.conf should be well commented on what to chage to change defaults like that... |
| 21:14.04 | gloin | CasaNova_: _should_ |
| 21:14.09 | gloin | doesn't mean it _is_ =] |
| 21:14.28 | CasaNova_ | yeah I was just looking myself - I recall seeing it.... |
| 21:15.08 | gloin | ahh |
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| 21:15.14 | gloin | oddly it's in the .ppd files |
| 21:15.18 | gloin | each one individually |
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| 21:15.19 | gloin | ergh |
| 21:15.29 | Squarepants | exit |
| 21:15.37 | metrix | how would I go about changing a files setuid to root? |
| 21:16.11 | sylvisj | !nickometer Squarepants |
| 21:16.13 | dpkg | 'Squarepants' is 0.000% lame, sylvisj |
| 21:16.14 | bbrazil | metrix: chmod u+s |
| 21:16.22 | bbrazil | metrix: be *very* careful when doing that |
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| 21:17.21 | dn4 | just for a reference, what would you recommend as a good editor ot use in linux, vi, emacs, nano, pico? |
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| 21:17.41 | nano- | dn4: vim |
| 21:17.46 | sylvisj | I use nano |
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| 21:18.06 | Jhair | dn4: take a look at all of them and decide by yourself |
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| 21:19.51 | Kaigeek | i used pico |
| 21:19.55 | Kaigeek | good |
| 21:19.55 | Kaigeek | .. |
| 21:19.56 | Kaigeek | :) |
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| 21:20.38 | ultraviolet16 | hey everyone, what are common video modes for widescreen monitors? ie, 1280x768 and such.. or where can I find them? |
| 21:20.52 | bbrazil | dn4: for a beginner nano, vim will take half an hour to learn (vimtutor), I have no experiance of emacs |
| 21:20.52 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Your monitor's instruction manual |
| 21:20.57 | Kaigeek | bbrazil |
| 21:20.59 | Kaigeek | :) |
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| 21:21.12 | pm_ | there is any opensource tool like bestcrypt? |
| 21:21.14 | streuner | !faq metrix Permissions |
| 21:21.14 | dpkg | metrix Permissions: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 21:21.23 | streuner | !wikifaq metrix Permissions |
| 21:21.23 | dpkg | metrix: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 21:21.24 | Kaigeek | bbrazil you operating systems SunOS ? |
| 21:21.27 | gravity | pm_: What is bestcrypt? |
| 21:21.40 | bbrazil | Kaigeek: solaris 8 running on sparc |
| 21:21.40 | Kaigeek | bbrazil you operating systems SunOS ? |
| 21:21.48 | Kaigeek | bbrazil hm ok, good.. |
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| 21:22.48 | dn4 | nano is limited on the amount of text one can paste into it. :( |
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| 21:23.01 | dn4 | I found with emacs there is no problem like that. |
| 21:23.01 | bbrazil | Kaigeek: also, sunos is the kernel, solaris is the os |
| 21:23.12 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: the manual isn't available to me right now... |
| 21:23.29 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Did you google around for the info? Manufacturers often put it online |
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| 21:23.47 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Also go poking around the manufacturer's site |
| 21:23.48 | metrix | Thank you both for the information. I needed to setuid smbmnt so users could mount file systems |
| 21:24.10 | ultraviolet16 | yeah, i'm just not sure what to search for.. like widescreen resolution, widescreen modes, aspect ratios, video modes |
| 21:24.11 | dpm | I'm trying to compile a program and make fails on a file called lexer.ll, but I've got no idea what *.ll files are, nor what they are compiled with, any suggestions anyone? |
| 21:24.14 | ultraviolet16 | all comes up with garbage |
| 21:24.15 | dpm | the error is the following -> lexer.ll: In function âint yywrap()â: |
| 21:24.15 | dpm | and -> lexer.ll:31: error: âINITIALâ was not declared in this scope |
| 21:24.28 | bartm | dpm, try "file abc.ll" |
| 21:24.37 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: i'm going to look on the manufacturer's site now |
| 21:25.10 | bartm | dpm, I mean, "apt-get install file && man file && file ....ll" |
| 21:25.30 | bbrazil | dpm: I'm gessing its a lex file, try flex |
| 21:25.30 | dpm | bartm: ok, I'll try that |
| 21:26.58 | bbrazil | dpm: slight chance its yacc/bison |
| 21:26.59 | odla | what are the xserver-xorg dev packages called? |
| 21:26.59 | ultraviolet16 | ok i found a resolution |
| 21:27.02 | gravity | odla: dev packages? |
| 21:27.04 | gravity | odla: What do you want to do? |
| 21:27.14 | ultraviolet16 | however now x server gives me an error.. |
| 21:27.24 | odla | gravity: install icewm-1.2.24 |
| 21:27.31 | ultraviolet16 | fatal server error: caught signal 11. server aborting.. |
| 21:27.39 | ultraviolet16 | any ideas? |
| 21:27.40 | odla | it's asking me for headers or libraries when i'm trying to configure it |
| 21:27.40 | gravity | odla: apt-get build-dep icewm |
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| 21:27.54 | odla | gravity: i'm using a tarball |
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| 21:28.00 | gravity | odla: I know |
| 21:28.01 | indes | ultraviolet16, there should be more :-p /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 21:28.24 | gravity | odla: If you don't understand the command, read the apt-get manpage |
| 21:28.25 | dpm | bartm, bbrazil: file lexer.ll outputs -> lexer.ll: lex description text. I've got both flex (2.5.31) and bison (2.0). I'm gonna try flex lexer.ll now... just a sec |
| 21:28.40 | odla | gravity: i see...it's going to pull in the dependencies |
| 21:28.45 | gravity | odla: Right |
| 21:28.48 | bartm | dpkg, cool, file knows it :) |
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| 21:29.27 | ultraviolet16 | indes: i'm looking now |
| 21:29.43 | odla | gravity: i get E: Build-dependencies for icewm could not be satisfied |
| 21:29.50 | gravity | odla: Why not? |
| 21:30.04 | odla | gravity: i don't know |
| 21:30.06 | Xeno^ | is there any kind of graphical interfaces you can use with debian that ive missed somewhere along the way, shell for me is abit out of my depth |
| 21:30.09 | odla | that's all it says |
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| 21:30.21 | bbrazil | Xeno^: not really |
| 21:30.26 | gravity | odla: Ok, try just installing libx11-6-dev |
| 21:30.27 | kteague | hello all |
| 21:30.33 | bbrazil | Xeno^: you'll learn a lot though |
| 21:30.57 | indes | Xeno^, tasksel will install a gui (mostly) for you. |
| 21:31.02 | Xeno^ | indeed, problem is though I think im just doing things and because I can't see more or less exactly what im doing, im not sure if im doing it right / wrong |
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| 21:31.23 | jimb0 | at some point i was whining in here about how my eth0 drivers werent loaded from a debian install disk |
| 21:31.25 | odla | gravity: ok... |
| 21:31.28 | jimb0 | and someone asked what my LAN card is |
| 21:31.34 | jimb0 | and i didnt know, and now i know: Realtek 10/100 LAN |
| 21:31.49 | kteague | I'm having a bit of trouble getting X to start with my 37" LCD. what is the best way for me to generate an xorg.conf that can support all resolutions my monitor can support? |
| 21:31.51 | ultraviolet16 | damn dude, i'm thinking about just trying out xfree86 |
| 21:32.03 | indes | you mean, xorg? |
| 21:32.13 | jimb0 | xorg is fantastic. |
| 21:32.14 | ultraviolet16 | no i'm using xorg now |
| 21:32.19 | kteague | yes, xorg |
| 21:32.22 | indes | why go back to xf86? |
| 21:32.23 | ultraviolet16 | well it's giving me a whole lot of trouble |
| 21:32.25 | stew | kteague: how is the monitor connected? vga cable? dvi cable? |
| 21:32.26 | petemc | jimb0: i hope it didnt take you all that time to find out, as thats not specific enough to be useful |
| 21:32.32 | ultraviolet16 | it's a laptop |
| 21:32.34 | kteague | stew: dvi |
| 21:32.35 | gravity | xorg does have some regressions for people |
| 21:32.37 | jimb0 | lol pete |
| 21:32.38 | indes | ultraviolet16, so? |
| 21:32.39 | jimb0 | no it didnt |
| 21:32.40 | jimb0 | actually |
| 21:32.42 | jimb0 | i got sidetracked |
| 21:32.43 | kteague | max res: 1920x1080p |
| 21:32.48 | jimb0 | reading about how to OC this laptop |
| 21:32.51 | stew | kteague: then remove the refresh rates from the monitor section and they should be auto detected |
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| 21:32.59 | jimb0 | and writted was 'remove the Realtek 10/100 LAN card' |
| 21:33.02 | jimb0 | written* |
| 21:33.08 | jimb0 | and that reminded me. |
| 21:33.14 | kteague | stew: ok, I'll try that now... one sec |
| 21:33.18 | stew | jimb0: it should use the 8139too driver |
| 21:33.34 | jimb0 | okay do you think that would be on the dvd install cd? |
| 21:33.39 | jimb0 | uhh install dvd |
| 21:33.39 | indes | jimb0, when you get your disks, look for the kernel config that shows what modules are included.. ? you could see if the driver is on the disc before you download it. |
| 21:33.40 | jimb0 | :p |
| 21:33.45 | stew | jimb0: without a doubt |
| 21:33.48 | jimb0 | great |
| 21:33.48 | petemc | stew: the problem, as he described it, was the installer didnt find the nic |
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| 21:33.53 | jimb0 | can i just apt-get it? |
| 21:34.08 | jimb0 | not sure all that's involved in getting that driver loaded. |
| 21:34.10 | kteague | stew: the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines? remove them? |
| 21:34.41 | indes | jimb0, for loading drivers, insmod/lsmod/rmmod ;-) |
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| 21:34.50 | indes | jimb0, during an install it should be automagic or in the menu |
| 21:34.58 | dpm | bartm, bbrazil: 'flex lexer.ll' executes without error. What does that mean? When I execute 'make' I'm still getting an error, and I don't think that flex is called from the makefile, anyway. It complains that the 'INITIAL' macro in the following function definition of lexer.ll is not defined -> extern "C" int yywrap() { BEGIN INITIAL; return 1; } |
| 21:35.20 | jimb0 | it wasnt automatic or in any kind of menu |
| 21:35.52 | bbrazil | dpm: what command does make run? |
| 21:35.54 | humpi | anyone know about a problem with apache2 and debian that you can't see websites on your server but everyone else can... |
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| 21:36.25 | bbrazil | humpi: you doing any NAT? |
| 21:36.40 | humpi | bbrazil, yes |
| 21:36.50 | bbrazil | humpi: I'd check that first |
| 21:37.09 | humpi | i dont know anything about it though :) |
| 21:37.13 | inetd_ | bloody hell..when are they goin to fix this vlc dep issue in sid???! |
| 21:37.21 | indes | use mplayer :-p |
| 21:37.41 | bbrazil | indes: mplayer isn't in sid :) |
| 21:37.43 | dpm | bbrazil : I think if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../lib -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -DqGTK -DGTK_ENABLE_BROKEN -DqUnix -INONE -DqCvsDebug=0 -MT lexer.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/lexer.Tpo" \ -c -o lexer.o `test -f 'lexer.cc' || echo './'`lexer.cc; \ |
| 21:37.43 | dpm | then mv -f ".deps/lexer.Tpo" ".deps/lexer.Po"; \ |
| 21:37.43 | dpm | else rm -f ".deps/lexer.Tpo"; exit 1; \ |
| 21:37.44 | inetd_ | these pkg maintainers are been slack....they shouldnt hav messed this up in the ffirst place |
| 21:37.45 | dpm | fi |
| 21:37.47 | odla | icewm make error http://pastebin.com/518047 |
| 21:37.49 | odla | any ideas? |
| 21:37.51 | xored | ia using a linux box ( debian sarge) as an Router and Server. I have DSL and iam connecting through pppd. Sometime my connection just exits and i cannor reconnect auntil i restart the whole server. Even a network restart doesnt change anything. Someone a clue ? |
| 21:38.15 | dpm | bbrazil: that's what comes before make throws the error, anyway |
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| 21:38.17 | inetd_ | indes: i use vlc to stream...not for to play video |
| 21:38.20 | linuxboyfriend | hi all |
| 21:38.29 | linuxboyfriend | does the board which support SATA also will support PATA or not? |
| 21:38.41 | indes | inetd_, to stream what? |
| 21:38.48 | inetd_ | and i know there are other ways to do it but vlc probly makes it the easiest...since they have a client/server side |
| 21:38.55 | indes | either way, mplayer streams great :-p |
| 21:38.58 | bbrazil | dpm: I can't see any issues there, what are you trying to compile? |
| 21:38.58 | humpi | bbrazil, thats not the problem, its allowing others fine just not me |
| 21:39.07 | Coweater | linuxboyfriend: not necessarily, but it's a fair chance it does |
| 21:39.13 | RainbowW | looking for some help with email management. does somebody know of an email system that works sort of like a ticket system, but is suitable for a single user? i'm thinking something like OTRS but perhaps not so complex |
| 21:39.15 | bbrazil | humpi: what do you see? |
| 21:39.20 | linuxboyfriend | what do u think about ASUS P4v8x-mx? |
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| 21:39.39 | mrwoody | Does anyone have any positive/negative experience with ndiswrapper? I am trying to decide wether to buy a laptop that needs ndiswrapper |
| 21:39.46 | inetd_ | indes: stream video ofcourse :) Digital TV, movies, p0rn, surv camera, etc.. |
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| 21:40.01 | indes | inetd_, of course mplayer does that ;-) |
| 21:40.09 | mrwoody | how stable is the connection with ndiswrapper once it it established, and how much cpu does it suck? |
| 21:40.14 | gravity | mrwoody: It works fine for me, but it's something of a pain to deal with |
| 21:40.22 | Coweater | mrwoody: look up guides for the particular chipset, quirks will be specific to a card model |
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| 21:40.30 | gravity | mrwoody: I have to rebuild and reinstall it every time I change my kernel |
| 21:40.47 | inetd_ | inetd_: yer? udp multicast streaming ? dont think so |
| 21:41.14 | indes | inetd_, stop talking to yourself :-p and give me a url :-p |
| 21:41.15 | inetd_ | indes: yer? udp multicast streaming ? dont think so |
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| 21:42.10 | indes | inetd_, I believe it does :-p |
| 21:42.16 | mrwoody | gravity: but once is running, is it stable? and does it use a lot of cpu? I can handle the rebuild every time I upgrade the kernel |
| 21:42.21 | inetd_ | indes: hurry in a curry...i hav to be in office in 30mins...so gotta go.... i'll be on here later 2nite...so talk then :) |
| 21:42.30 | mrwoody | Coweater: do you know if there is a db? |
| 21:42.36 | dpm | bbrazil: I'm trying to compile the GTK2 version of gcvs, a GUI for cvs. What do you mean you don't see any issue? What is lexer.ll compiled with, lex, flex, gcc? I could not determine it from the makefile |
| 21:42.45 | odla | if i run checkinstall after make it will create a .deb right? |
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| 21:42.54 | gravity | mrwoody: Yeah it's been stable for me. No problems with cpu or memory |
| 21:42.55 | goldendawn | excuse me |
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| 21:43.01 | goldendawn | How many disks is xandros? |
| 21:43.03 | indes | inetd_, http://www.live555.com/mplayer/ |
| 21:43.07 | New | What do I do to make a non dynamic ip on a debianrunning server behind a router? I´m realy not good at this things because my low experience of non grafical interfaces. |
| 21:43.08 | bbrazil | dpm: it could be using implicit rules |
| 21:43.10 | kteague | I removed the HorizRefresh and VertRefresh lines from my xorg.conf but it still locks up after I enter my credentials in GDM |
| 21:43.17 | mrwoody | gravity: thanks... last question: what is your card? |
| 21:43.18 | goldendawn | I have the torrent but i dont remember how many since i think i extracted it more then once |
| 21:43.24 | gravity | mrwoody: Broadcom something |
| 21:43.30 | Coweater | mrwoody: linux-laptop.net or tuxmobil.org are likely to have some info |
| 21:43.36 | indes | inetd_, it does ;-) |
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| 21:44.09 | netcat | odla: If properly installed, it should... |
| 21:44.17 | HugLeo | Is better kdm ou xdm? |
| 21:44.18 | dpm | bbrazil: what do you mean by implicit rules? I apologise for my ignorance, I'm still learning... |
| 21:44.26 | goldendawn | Anyone? |
| 21:44.32 | bbrazil | dpm: info make |
| 21:44.37 | goldendawn | How many disks is xandros? |
| 21:44.50 | indes | www.xandros.com will probably give you a great idea, this is #debian! |
| 21:44.56 | bbrazil | dpm: you realise gcvs is in debian? |
| 21:45.01 | goldendawn | xandros is built on debian |
| 21:45.04 | goldendawn | I thougt somone might know |
| 21:45.16 | indes | non-free... *shudder* |
| 21:45.24 | goldendawn | you can get a free version |
| 21:45.36 | bbrazil | !debian based |
| 21:45.36 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Xebian, Ubuntu, Mepis, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. We're supporting Debian, let your distro's support network support it. Ask me about "d-i". |
| 21:45.40 | mrwoody | gravity: & Coweater: thanks |
| 21:45.46 | odla | it didn't quite work...http://pastebin.com/518059 any ideas? |
| 21:45.46 | netcat | New: man /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:46.00 | dpm | bbrazil: yes, the GTK version, I'm trying to compile the GTK2 version |
| 21:46.16 | kteague | even if I do an xorgcfg -config, it begins to scan, then locks after it refreshes the display once |
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| 21:46.19 | bbrazil | dpm: ah |
| 21:46.19 | indes | goldendawn, not that I care, but I can't find a place to download on their site |
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| 21:46.28 | goldendawn | http://www.xandros.com/products/home/desktopoc/dsk_oc_download.html |
| 21:46.31 | goldendawn | There you go |
| 21:46.36 | muhoo | well i almost have it figured out |
| 21:46.37 | indes | I don't want an sdk |
| 21:46.39 | indes | I want the os |
| 21:46.43 | muhoo | bbrazil: terminfo xterm* kH=\E[8~:kh=\E[7~ |
| 21:46.45 | goldendawn | a sdk? |
| 21:46.53 | muhoo | but... end doesn't work |
| 21:46.57 | muhoo | only home |
| 21:47.12 | indes | hahah bittorrent |
| 21:47.13 | rudenstam | I'm having some problems with preseeding my installation... when I get to the preseed part I get error "The installer failed to loailed to load the preconfiguration file from http://192.168.0.1/rudenstam/preseed.cfg. The file may be corrupt" tried first with my own preseed and then wich example file.. get same error on both |
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| 21:47.15 | New | netcat - Thank you. |
| 21:47.16 | moyogo | hi |
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| 21:47.38 | indes | goldendawn, I looked at that page, and it says ONE cd |
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| 21:47.47 | indes | goldendawn, you pasted the url... whats wrong with this picture? |
| 21:47.58 | goldendawn | I wasnt lookin at that url |
| 21:48.01 | netcat | New: No problem... |
| 21:48.02 | goldendawn | I just had it in favs |
| 21:48.04 | goldendawn | I was on the front page |
| 21:48.14 | muhoo | hmm. works in shell, but not in emacs. emacs is seeing <select> not end. weird |
| 21:48.18 | Hagfish | session optional pam_mail.so standard noenv dir=~/Maildir is that the correct way to get new mail notification working with maildirs? |
| 21:48.33 | bbrazil | Hagfish: s/noenv/env/ |
| 21:48.38 | Hagfish | env? |
| 21:48.43 | Hagfish | wow, never heard that one before |
| 21:48.44 | Hagfish | thanks |
| 21:48.47 | deadcat | is half.com the best site for selling/buying textbooks? |
| 21:48.49 | IdahoEv | how do I check if a service (like mysqld) is running from inside a bash script? |
| 21:48.52 | bbrazil | Hagfish: sets the MAIL enviroment variable |
| 21:49.07 | HugLeo | bbrazil, Mora no Brasil? :] |
| 21:49.09 | indes | IdahoEv, grep ps perhaps? |
| 21:49.14 | Hagfish | File: /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 21:49.14 | bbrazil | HugLeo: /whois |
| 21:49.16 | Hagfish | already doing that |
| 21:49.17 | kteague | IdahoEv: shell scripts take normal shell commands |
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| 21:49.45 | kteague | IdahoEv: so `ps aux |grep mysqld` should suffice |
| 21:50.13 | IdahoEv | It's more the syntax of the if I don't understand, sorry should have been more clear |
| 21:50.17 | kteague | IdahoEv: but you'll neeed to do some fancy things with shell scripting to achive yhour goal |
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| 21:50.33 | Hagfish | bbrazil, nope, still doesn't work. what about changing login.defs? |
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| 21:50.55 | kteague | IdahoEv: there are plenty of shell scripts out there that check for process and, if not found, restart |
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| 21:51.46 | rbisrael | debian thinks my windows partition is read-only (for users other than root), even tho mount says it's rw |
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| 21:52.00 | bbrazil | Hagfish: you have to specify it for ssh, login etc. |
| 21:52.03 | blondie | rbisrael: what FS is it? |
| 21:52.05 | kteague | rbisrael: is your windows partition NTFS? |
| 21:52.11 | rbisrael | No, it's vfat |
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| 21:52.16 | Hagfish | bbrazil, done it for login and it doesn't work |
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| 21:52.28 | Hagfish | neither does the "mail" command |
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| 21:52.32 | kteague | rbisrael: remount it rw |
| 21:52.46 | Hagfish | and i can see two new emails sitting in the Maildir/new |
| 21:52.47 | rudenstam | does anyone know anything about preseeding ? |
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| 21:53.05 | kteague | rbisrael: actually, now that I think about it, it's a samba permission issue |
| 21:53.15 | Gathond | rbisrael: with vfat you have to specify he permissions of every file on the filesystem at mount time, otherwise it would only be root that has access |
| 21:53.18 | Hagfish | bbrazil, echo $MAIL |
| 21:53.19 | Hagfish | /home/me/Maildir |
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| 21:53.28 | Hagfish | that all seems to be working |
| 21:53.38 | kteague | rbisrael: what Gathond said :-) |
| 21:53.44 | Gathond | rbisrael: look in man mount for the umask, user, dmask options under VFAT |
| 21:53.44 | bbrazil | Hagfish: check the docs - maybe you need a trailing slash |
| 21:54.19 | kteague | can anyone tell me how to produce a set of modelines that are compatible with my display? |
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| 21:54.46 | kteague | I'm using etch/xorg |
| 21:55.01 | Hagfish | bbrazil, doesn't work either way, just to check, loading a new konsole tab would test this, right? |
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| 21:55.27 | kteague | xorgcfg -configure locks up my terminal after the 2nd refresh |
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| 21:55.40 | Hagfish | bbrazil, heh... guess what i've been doing wrong |
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| 21:56.03 | bbrazil | Hagfish: no, you'd have to do something requiring pam |
| 21:56.06 | sylvisj | I think I have the best quit message here |
| 21:56.08 | kteague | Hagfish: yes, rm -rf / first, ask questions later :-) |
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| 21:56.14 | oxyde | salut |
| 21:56.15 | bbrazil | Hagfish: for login you'd have to login to a VT |
| 21:56.20 | Hagfish | kteague, not _that_ wrong |
| 21:56.29 | kteague | hehehe |
| 21:56.30 | bbrazil | Hagfish: ssh is probably the easiest to test |
| 21:56.38 | Hagfish | i'm using a VT |
| 21:56.40 | Hagfish | works perfectly |
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| 21:56.46 | Hagfish | thanks guys, between us we got it |
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| 21:56.55 | sylvisj | <3 my quit msg |
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| 21:57.10 | kteague | Hagfish: just don't tell your girlfriend |
| 21:57.21 | bbrazil | sylvisj: those commands aren't eqivilent |
| 21:57.31 | sylvisj | You're right, but they both get the job done. |
| 21:58.10 | sylvisj | Pretty sure if someone sees 'format' in a cmd line, they'll catch on. |
| 21:58.10 | bbrazil | sylvisj: *.* will not fully work on linux - it requires filenames to contain a . |
| 21:58.12 | HugLeo | I configure scilab: configure: error: cannot find java include files What is it? |
| 21:58.14 | sylvisj | Ahh damn. |
| 21:58.18 | sylvisj | So just rm -r *? |
| 21:58.25 | kteague | question: is modeline dependent upon video card (in terms of resolutions the video card *can* support*) |
| 21:58.45 | bbrazil | sylvisj: 'rm -rf /' (don't run this) for windows 'deltree /y c:\' |
| 21:58.45 | pipeline | kteague: Yup. |
| 21:58.49 | kteague | actually, to state that better, is modeline dependent upon video card/monitor? |
| 21:58.53 | pipeline | kteague: Both. |
| 21:58.55 | sylvisj | bbrazil, I know enough to know that :P |
| 21:59.01 | bmbeck | I'm having problems getting my debian install to act as a 2 NIC router. I've manually turned on ip forwarding via 'echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' but that doesn't seem to do it. eth0 can see the internet, but I can't seem to get packets forwarded from eth1 to eth0 |
| 21:59.05 | sylvisj | aahh yeah the auto yes switch, forgot that |
| 21:59.05 | bbrazil | sylvisj: I was warning other people in the channel |
| 21:59.08 | ke6isf | Is there an analog to lame that encodes to .ogg files? |
| 21:59.16 | valdyn | !masq |
| 21:59.16 | dpkg | from memory, masq is See: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html by JohnFlux :), or do "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <output interface device, such as eth0> -j MASQUERADE ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and view the rules with iptables -t nat -L |
| 21:59.22 | valdyn | !ipmasq |
| 21:59.22 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 21:59.23 | pipeline | ke6isf: You mean, something that takes the same command line arguments? I think not. |
| 21:59.26 | Hagfish | bbrazil, this gets interesting, first it says "You have newmail" (no space), and now the command "mail" doesn't work |
| 21:59.34 | Hagfish | bbrazil, does "mail" support Maildirs? |
| 21:59.41 | ke6isf | pipeline: Not necessarily that detailed, but something that'll convert .wav to .ogg |
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| 22:00.18 | bbrazil | Hagfish: I don't think so. Can I interest you in 'mutt'? |
| 22:00.38 | Hagfish | bbrazil, i am already slightly interested... |
| 22:00.49 | Hagfish | but it's another app where you have to set variables to get Maildirs to work |
| 22:00.54 | Hagfish | so i was hoping not to use it... |
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| 22:01.01 | pipeline | ke6isf: oh, sure. vorbis-tools package provides "oggenc" |
| 22:01.04 | Hagfish | $ mail |
| 22:01.04 | Hagfish | mail: /home/me/Maildir: Is a directory |
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| 22:01.13 | ke6isf | pipeline: Cool, thanks. |
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| 22:01.46 | sylvisj | Better, bbrazil? |
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| 22:04.08 | odla | zsnes can reconginze my usb joystick but it won't allow me to use it...any ideas...i've read the man page |
| 22:04.24 | sylvisj | Lemme get thsi right, you're trying zsnes on linux? |
| 22:04.35 | odla | not trying i am using it |
| 22:04.54 | sylvisj | ... impressive. Wine/ |
| 22:04.55 | sylvisj | ? |
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| 22:05.04 | jimb0 | i can't believe how long this dvd install is taking. |
| 22:05.07 | odla | sylvisj: no zsnes |
| 22:05.10 | odla | apt-get install zsnes |
| 22:05.11 | sylvisj | ... |
| 22:05.12 | jimb0 | its been ~40 mins and it's still going |
| 22:05.21 | sylvisj | There's finally a linux package for it?!? |
| 22:05.27 | ke6isf | jimb0: What are you installing? |
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| 22:05.32 | sylvisj | I did not know that... last time I used it was on my p1 133mhz |
| 22:05.44 | jimb0 | apparently everything, although i only checked Desktop libraries |
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| 22:06.05 | bartm | sylvisj, i'm still on such hardware :) |
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| 22:06.23 | sylvisj | Lol, wow. I do too many things (ex. running Winamp) to be able to do that. |
| 22:06.24 | SlayerXP | greetings, enemies of capitalism |
| 22:06.39 | jimb0 | greetings nerd |
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| 22:06.41 | sylvisj | In other words, non-users of Windows? |
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| 22:06.52 | JohnGH | on one of my testing boxes I've been getting a problem for a few weeks - in bash, in set -o vi mode - when I press 'v' on a line to edit it, instead of launching vi it |
| 22:06.52 | sylvisj | my bad, Winblows? |
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| 22:07.20 | Hagfish | bbrazil, i've come to see a man about a dog |
| 22:07.23 | SlayerXP | sylvisj: i have important news: microsoft isn't the only supplier of commercial software in the world. |
| 22:07.23 | pipeline | sylvisj: http://img42.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m2nu.png |
| 22:07.24 | Hagfish | bbrazil, tell me about mutt |
| 22:07.25 | JohnGH | gives an error: syntax error near unexpected token `)' and then runs the line anyway |
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| 22:07.43 | Hagfish | namely, where is my muttrc? |
| 22:07.51 | sylvisj | Which is beside the point. Lemme rephrase: users of a free o/s? |
| 22:07.52 | JohnGH | does anyone else get that? and what should I check (it affects all users on the system) |
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| 22:08.03 | JohnGH | Hagfish: .muttrc in your home directory |
| 22:08.10 | bryan | hey all, i have a simple question |
| 22:08.11 | Hagfish | that's what i thought... |
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| 22:08.21 | bbrazil | Hagfish: http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~bbrazil/matrix/mutt/primer.html <-- my mutt primer, slightly site specific |
| 22:08.26 | tarzeau | asg: i always do that |
| 22:08.38 | sylvisj | Lol, pipeline. |
| 22:08.38 | ZiDaNe_ | how to know which kernel modules are not really necessary on my system and remove them ? |
| 22:08.46 | bryan | i am an arch user right now and the package manager can remove a program and all of its deps that arent still needed...is there something like that for apt? |
| 22:08.47 | Hagfish | bbrazil, i can't find it in my home directory, i've even run the program and had it complain at me |
| 22:08.55 | JohnGH | Hagfish: there is a system wide one too /usr/lib/mutt/source-muttrc.d |
| 22:08.58 | bbrazil | Hagfish: then create it :) |
| 22:09.03 | Hagfish | /home/etaylor/Mail does not exist. Create it? ([yes]/no): |
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| 22:09.03 | sylvisj | pipeline, that was great :P Worth a fewq laughs. |
| 22:09.10 | Hagfish | oh, i can create a blank one for it? |
| 22:09.10 | JohnGH | Hagfish: which pulls in /etc/Muttrc.d/*.rc |
| 22:09.13 | Hagfish | how quaint |
| 22:09.13 | bbrazil | Hagfish: ah, try mutt -f |
| 22:09.41 | Hagfish | -f mailbox |
| 22:09.42 | Hagfish | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.53 | JohnGH | bbrazil: mutt -f is for opening a folder (file) |
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| 22:10.03 | JohnGH | Hagfish: yes you can create your own |
| 22:10.14 | Hagfish | my own muttrc? |
| 22:10.18 | JohnGH | Hagfish: there are lots of good examples of muttrc files if you look on google |
| 22:10.26 | bbrazil | Hagfish: yes, you'll want to change the spoolfile setting |
| 22:10.29 | Hagfish | set mbox_type=Maildir |
| 22:10.30 | JohnGH | Hagfish: yes, your own muttrc |
| 22:10.35 | Hagfish | set folder="~/Maildir/" |
| 22:10.46 | Hagfish | i was thinking of those two (thanks to google) |
| 22:10.58 | odla | yay! |
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| 22:11.35 | harm1988 | i cant seem to apt-get mysqladmin !? |
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| 22:11.50 | harm1988 | any ideas on how to fix this? |
| 22:12.00 | JohnGH | Hagfish: all you need to do for that is do mkdir -p Maildir/{cur,new,tmp} |
| 22:12.09 | bartm | harm1988, apt-cache search mysql |
| 22:12.13 | JohnGH | Then when you go to save to that folder it knows it's a maildir folder |
| 22:12.29 | JohnGH | I keep mine in .mail/whatever/{cur,new,tmp} |
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| 22:12.33 | Hagfish | i already have the maildir |
| 22:12.40 | JohnGH | that way they mail directory doesn't get in the road |
| 22:12.46 | Hagfish | /var/mail/myusername: No such file or directory |
| 22:13.06 | JohnGH | Hagfish: does it have the 3 subfolders in it? |
| 22:13.11 | Hagfish | yup |
| 22:13.15 | JohnGH | sweet |
| 22:13.16 | Hagfish | and the "new" directory has 2 emails in |
| 22:13.28 | bartm | harm1988, apt-get install mysql-admin (with the dash) |
| 22:13.37 | harm1988 | urm ok :D ill try that |
| 22:14.25 | harm1988 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.25 | harm1988 | mysqladmin -u root password yourrootsqlpassword |
| 22:14.31 | harm1988 | it then says root is not a package ? |
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| 22:15.23 | JohnGH | Hagfish: what MTA are you using? |
| 22:16.19 | Hagfish | MTA... that's what exim4 is, right? |
| 22:16.21 | harm1988 | iam following this guide and it wont let me do something |
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| 22:17.01 | harm1988 | http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_sarge_p4 |
| 22:17.23 | HugLeo | configure: error: cannot find java include files. What's package I install? |
| 22:17.31 | harm1988 | exept that -u root password mysqlpassword wont work |
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| 22:17.38 | Hagfish | JohnGH, can i message you? |
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| 22:19.13 | frehfreh | hi, anyone around who ca give me a quick solution for this problem: http://pastebin.com/518125 |
| 22:19.13 | frehfreh | ? |
| 22:19.21 | JohnGH | Hagfish: yeah OK, go ahead - thanks for asking |
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| 22:19.36 | SlayerXP | frehfreh: type "/part #debian; /join #mysql" |
| 22:19.44 | JohnGH | and yeah, exim4 is your MTA :) |
| 22:19.49 | JohnGH | sorry - I just had a phone call |
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| 22:21.32 | JohnGH | Hagfish: it's a good joke though :) |
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| 22:26.29 | alakad | hi |
| 22:26.37 | alakad | can somebody help me pleazzzz |
| 22:26.48 | alakad | urgent |
| 22:27.12 | bartm | alakad, just ask |
| 22:27.37 | harm1988 | how do i chance-apt get so it contains more packets cuz i cant find libsas12 :S |
| 22:28.05 | bartm | harm1988, edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:28.08 | alakad | i am doing a debian fresh install, and a xfree server as just popup, wich is asking me what x system should i use |
| 22:28.15 | alakad | i have a winfast nvidia |
| 22:28.20 | alakad | which one do i have to pick |
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| 22:28.43 | alakad | bartm, |
| 22:28.53 | bartm | alakad, is there a "nv" ? beware, this may cause damage to your hardware |
| 22:29.22 | alakad | yes |
| 22:29.31 | alakad | should i pick it |
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| 22:29.39 | alakad | bartm, |
| 22:29.50 | bartm | alakad, at your own risk, go ahead |
| 22:29.59 | jimb0 | im having the same issue. i have an ATI Radeon xpress 200M |
| 22:30.02 | alakad | i will try :P |
| 22:30.23 | jimb0 | and im not sure which drivers to use, or which h/vsync values to use for my laptop screen. |
| 22:30.41 | jimb0 | ill try googling around. |
| 22:30.43 | alakad | bartm, if it doesnt work i will just go ubuntu |
| 22:30.58 | bartm | alakad, bad channel to say that :) |
| 22:30.59 | alakad | i have never had this problems with ati do |
| 22:31.04 | alakad | XD sorry |
| 22:31.19 | alakad | bartm, but anyway ubuntu isnt that bad |
| 22:31.28 | bartm | alakad, sure, fedora is also good |
| 22:31.34 | alakad | XD |
| 22:31.40 | indes | good is what works for you. |
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| 22:31.50 | pipeline | bartm, alakad: But we don't discuss either one of them here. That's what #fedora and #ubuntu are for. |
| 22:31.55 | bartm | I just would love to see an auto-kick on spelling other distro's :) |
| 22:32.09 | alakad | bartm, thanks anyway i will come back if it doesnt work by |
| 22:32.23 | HugLeo | configure: error: cannot find java include files :( |
| 22:32.26 | bartm | pipeline, ok ok :) |
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| 22:32.39 | harm1988 | cannot find package libsas12, when i apt-cache search for it i see it though..? now what? |
| 22:32.53 | netcat | jimb0: www.linux-laptop.net |
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| 22:33.03 | bartm | harm1988, then "apt-get install libsas12" should work |
| 22:33.11 | harm1988 | but i doesnt |
| 22:33.16 | Skrot | Hi. I'm trying to compile a kernel using "fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=.2 kernel_image", and I get the error "The changelog says we are creating 2.6.15.1-something.1, but I thought the version is 2.6.15.1-something.2".. how do I fix that? :) |
| 22:33.24 | harm1988 | this is what iam entering |
| 22:33.25 | harm1988 | apt-get install postfix postfix-tls libsasl2 sasl2-bin libsasl2-modules ipopd-ssl uw-imapd-ssl |
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| 22:33.52 | ambrose | Skrot, edit debian/changelog |
| 22:34.08 | Skrot | ambrose: What should I add/remove? |
| 22:34.34 | ambrose | Skrot, don't forget the --initrd if you want a ramdisk. Change the last changelog entry to match the version name you're aiming for |
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| 22:35.16 | ambrose | Skrot, when I say "last" I mean "topmost" or "most recent" |
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| 22:35.33 | blondie | aww |
| 22:35.38 | deadcat | wow.. soldier! |
| 22:35.59 | jimb0 | netcat: ive been to the laptop site before |
| 22:36.01 | Skrot | ambrose: hm, a make-kpkg does the trick also? |
| 22:36.09 | jimb0 | it has only limited details about my laptop, and its for ubuntu |
| 22:36.21 | harm1988 | cannot find package libsas12, when i apt-cache search for it i see it though..? now what? |
| 22:36.24 | jimb0 | which ive already gotten working, but i'd like to try getting a base debian install working |
| 22:36.45 | ambrose | Skrot, I've lost sync... make-kpkg does what trick? |
| 22:37.01 | Skrot | ambrose: so that I don't need to edit the changelog? |
| 22:37.32 | bartm | harm1988, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and retry until it works |
| 22:37.43 | bartm | harm1988, well, that's the right direction :) |
| 22:37.48 | ambrose | Skrot, make-kpkg is expecting to put the changelog into the package. it actually looks in the changelog to make sure the last entry is about the version you're creating. That check is there to prevent you from making a package while forgetting to put in the latest changelog |
| 22:38.45 | ambrose | Skrot, if there's an option to make-kpkg to create the latest changelog entry, let me know :-) |
| 22:38.45 | samo | him i tried to create a user with the following: adduser --no-create-home <username> 1000 it says : adduser: the user 'username' does not exist and it doesnt create a user |
| 22:38.49 | Skrot | ambrose: I see :) |
| 22:38.51 | samo | anybody can tell me how to do this ? |
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| 22:39.07 | RainbowW | looking for some help with email management. does somebody know of an email system that works sort of like a ticket system, but is suitable for a single user? i'm thinking something like OTRS but perhaps not so complex |
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| 22:39.33 | JohnGH | samo: what is the 1000 for? |
| 22:39.47 | samo | its the gid of my other user |
| 22:39.54 | ambrose | samo, the manpage for adduser would give the command line as something more like: adduser --uid 1000 --no-create-home <username> |
| 22:40.08 | JohnGH | samo: don't you want adduser to know that too? |
| 22:40.38 | samo | i thought the system was deciding of the uid since it decided for the root uid upon install |
| 22:40.44 | samo | anyway thanks i try with that |
| 22:40.55 | JohnGH | samo: did you read the man page? what goes in front of the gid? |
| 22:40.57 | harm1988 | where is a list of places where i can gete packets? |
| 22:41.19 | samo | it worked, thanks a lot |
| 22:41.42 | JohnGH | you're welcome - amasing things those man pages :o) |
| 22:41.50 | ambrose | harm1988: packets? what sort of packets? You're already getting packets ;-) |
| 22:42.05 | bartm | Hamled, there's a list of download mirrors on the debian website |
| 22:42.08 | harm1988 | yah well i cant find libsas12 |
| 22:42.10 | bartm | Hamled, sorry not you |
| 22:42.17 | harm1988 | but when i apt-cache search i see it |
| 22:42.18 | bartm | harm1988, there's a list of download mirrors on the debian website |
| 22:42.18 | Hamled | k |
| 22:42.20 | ambrose | oh packages |
| 22:42.20 | harm1988 | >[ |
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| 22:42.40 | bartm | harm1988, then get familiar with editing /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:42.41 | huhlig | hmmm |
| 22:42.45 | ambrose | harm1988, when was your last apt-get update? |
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| 22:42.51 | bartm | harm1988, we're both repeating here :) |
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| 22:43.05 | bartm | ambrose, good one ! |
| 22:43.05 | harm1988 | ok sorry guys |
| 22:43.10 | harm1988 | ill chance server ot something |
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| 22:43.18 | bartm | harm1988, listen to the hind of ambrose ! |
| 22:43.22 | Bayne | what's the most recent amd64 kernel version available on apt? |
| 22:43.22 | bartm | harm1988, try apt-get update |
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| 22:43.27 | harm1988 | i did |
| 22:43.30 | ambrose | harm1988, you probably need to run apt-get update to update your list of packages |
| 22:43.30 | bartm | hm |
| 22:43.32 | harm1988 | still to no effect |
| 22:43.56 | bartm | harm1988, then it feels like there's something fishy in your sources.list |
| 22:43.56 | harm1988 | O.o seriously weird |
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| 22:44.14 | harm1988 | i never chanced it |
| 22:44.25 | harm1988 | mavy its the server |
| 22:44.33 | ambrose | harm1988, what does apt-cache policy libsas12 say? (is that an ell or a one before the 2 and are you spelling it consistently?) |
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| 22:45.58 | harm1988 | iam chancing servers, |
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| 22:46.30 | harm1988 | ftp.nl.debian.org to ftp.debian.nl |
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| 22:46.36 | harm1988 | which is timing out =[ |
| 22:46.42 | ambrose | harm1988, if you're changing servers, then you need to do an apt-get update again before you do anything else to bring your system package list in line with what the new server(s) has to offer |
| 22:46.57 | harm1988 | ok i was doing that :) |
| 22:47.08 | ambrose | harm1988, you're checking your logs for messages, right? |
| 22:47.15 | bartm | ambrose, you seem to be a helpdesk professional :) |
| 22:47.20 | JohnGH | Hagfish: hehehe - don't try stalking me, I know some dragons - and one of them would swoop down and EAT you if you gave me trouble! ;) |
| 22:47.26 | harm1988 | ambrose iam not |
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| 22:47.46 | ambrose | thanks bartm :-) no, just had my turn at being confused by the apt/dpkg plethora^Wsuite of programs |
| 22:47.46 | dpkg | ambrose: de rien |
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| 22:48.20 | bbrazil | I think dpkg needs poking |
| 22:48.40 | JohnGH | bbrazil: nah mate, it's pretty poked already :o( |
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| 22:48.46 | humpi | how do i get xfce4 working? |
| 22:48.59 | humpi | i installed it but have no idea what to do next |
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| 22:49.17 | blondie | that depends on what display manager you use |
| 22:49.24 | streuner | humpi: /usr/share/doc/<package> |
| 22:49.31 | humpi | is xfdm4 a display manager? |
| 22:49.41 | blondie | no |
| 22:49.43 | blondie | oh |
| 22:49.44 | blondie | maybe |
| 22:50.11 | humpi | i didn't know so i installed wdm also |
| 22:50.22 | humpi | but when i type in wdm it just does nothing |
| 22:50.31 | blondie | you need to |
| 22:50.42 | blondie | um |
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| 22:50.52 | JohnGH | humpi: did you try restarting X? |
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| 22:51.02 | ambrose | harm1988, you can have more than one server in your sources.list... maybe you already know but in case you don't... |
| 22:51.05 | harm1988 | silly l's and 1 |
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| 22:51.21 | ambrose | harm1988, yeah, some fonts are better than others for that |
| 22:51.24 | blondie | humpi: you have to tell it to use xfce4 as default but i dont remember how :( |
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| 22:51.39 | harm1988 | well i mean iam retarted |
| 22:52.02 | ambrose | harm1988, at least you're using a superior OS :-) |
| 22:52.07 | ambrose | you can't be that retarded |
| 22:52.52 | harm1988 | ambrose.. iam :d |
| 22:53.19 | harm1988 | i mean ofcourse iam going all out linux without an easy learning curve |
| 22:53.41 | harm1988 | iam setting up a debian server with no GUI's |
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| 22:54.31 | Skrot | is there a deamon or something that does automagic speedstepping for centrino's? |
| 22:54.35 | humpi | whats that command to configure x, like x-desktop-environment --configure or something |
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| 22:54.59 | humpi | no dpkg-reconfigure something |
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| 22:57.06 | SerajewelKS | !drxx humpi |
| 22:57.06 | dpkg | humpi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 22:57.22 | humpi | thanks |
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| 22:58.10 | SerajewelKS | odla: Quote #605750 was rejected. =( |
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| 23:00.04 | humpi | will x configure right over ssh?? |
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| 23:01.34 | IdahoEv | what's the command to show the current version of an installed package? |
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| 23:02.01 | ambrose | apt-cache policy <pkg> can do that |
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| 23:02.30 | IdahoEv | okay, i don't feel so dumb ... that's not obvious after all. thx. |
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| 23:02.59 | harm1988 | what the hell is a pass phrase? |
| 23:03.08 | IdahoEv | samething as a password |
| 23:03.12 | ambrose | harm1988, a long password |
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| 23:03.25 | digimonfan | DerJamster bin ja net blöd hab ich habs ja verstanden |
| 23:03.30 | harm1988 | so i should enter a long password? |
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| 23:03.34 | ambrose | harm1988, it can be short too, the terminology encourages you to make it longer |
| 23:03.35 | digimonfan | so und nu gute nach |
| 23:03.38 | ambrose | harm1988, yess |
| 23:04.40 | harm1988 | okimadeareallyreallylongpassword |
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| 23:05.04 | ambrose | harm1988, I suppose it's too late to tell you... try to pick one you'll be able to remember :-) |
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| 23:05.45 | harm1988 | well i did enter it twice ;) |
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| 23:06.00 | metalhedd | apt is failing to remove phpmyadmin, "returned exit code 127" how can I force it to be removed? |
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| 23:07.13 | ambrose | metalhedd, is there any indication of why it's failing? |
| 23:07.46 | metalhedd | ambrose, /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found |
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| 23:08.14 | ambrose | Hmm. looks icky. |
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| 23:08.24 | metalhedd | how icky? |
| 23:08.51 | ambrose | are you using stable or unstable? |
| 23:09.07 | metalhedd | unstable |
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| 23:09.57 | wethion | Is anyone else experiencing strange display artifacts recently? |
| 23:10.10 | ambrose | metalhedd, I'm not an apt/dpkg developer or anything, but it looks as if some package that apt/dpkg depends on is missing pieces |
| 23:10.30 | metalhedd | I dont really see how that's possible. |
| 23:10.31 | ambrose | metalhedd, db_get seems to be part of the db4.3 package |
| 23:10.44 | ambrose | which I'm guessing that apt/dpkg uses |
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| 23:11.03 | metalhedd | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.14 | metalhedd | I'm actually using ubuntu unstable if that makes a difference |
| 23:11.17 | ambrose | c api |
| 23:11.26 | krummie | hi, I suddenly get errors when trying to start mysqld on my debian sarge server. here are the error messages and some parts of syslog: http://pastebin.com/518209 |
| 23:11.36 | azeem | no, db_get is a debconf perl thingy I believe |
| 23:11.49 | azeem | debconf doesn't depend on libdb4.3 AFAIK |
| 23:11.50 | jingle | is it possible to use a linksys WPC54GX (wireless pcmcia) card with debian? |
| 23:12.16 | ambrose | metalhedd, can you dpkg --purge remove phpmyadmin? |
| 23:12.19 | deadcat | how do i make find ignore one of the dir in the find path? say incomplete/ |
| 23:12.21 | wethion | jingle: only with ndiswrapper |
| 23:12.47 | raid_boggle | hi, how can I prevent a kernel module from loading at boot. i tried creating a file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist with content a single line "blacklist sata_via" but it did not work |
| 23:12.56 | jingle | wethion: how difficult is that to get tit to work? |
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| 23:13.03 | metalhedd | ambrose, no dice. |
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| 23:13.24 | deadcat | jingle: just one tit? |
| 23:13.26 | harm1988 | and what is a challenge password (has to do with a .crt file) |
| 23:13.33 | ambrose | deadcat, find -type d -name incomplete -prune -o -the_rest_of_the_find-options -print |
| 23:13.43 | deadcat | ambrose: thanks (= |
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| 23:14.32 | MarcoPau | hello, since my last sid upgrade my alt gr key hasn't been working any more... what should I hack with? |
| 23:14.40 | ambrose | metalhedd, now I remember why I thought to look at dpkg: it has a --force option - check the man page to see how to apply it |
| 23:15.44 | humpi | I kind of deleted /etc/X11, what do i uninstall so i can reinstall those files? |
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| 23:15.51 | wethion | jingle: not too difficult if you have some cluefulness. There's a HOWTO I followed, which made it pretty straightforward. |
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| 23:15.56 | deadcat | ambrose: nice. it works. |
| 23:16.03 | ambrose | deadcat :-) |
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| 23:17.49 | metalhedd | ambrose, there is no option to force remove |
| 23:17.54 | coolpix | gn8 |
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| 23:18.44 | raid_boggle | hi anyone know what the error message I get from modprobe means. it says Warning: ignorign bad line starting with blacklist sata_via |
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| 23:21.05 | rahul | can someone help me with screen resolution and refresh rate |
| 23:21.29 | mrec | hi, anyone got a terratec hybrid xs or hauppauge hvb 900 usb? |
| 23:21.33 | ambrose | metalhedd, well, I only suggest this because I don't know the "right" way to fix it, and I leave all responsibility for breaking your system with you, but you can always go into /var/lib/dpkg/info and edit phpmyadmin.prerm to comment out the offending command |
| 23:21.48 | rahul | can someone help me with screen resolution and refresh rate |
| 23:22.20 | ambrose | rahul, mrec, don't ask to ask. Just ask, with details. |
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| 23:23.12 | syl-2 | hi... i'd appreciate a little hand to configure my first apache2 virtual host... |
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| 23:23.27 | rahul | i want to change mine screen resolution to 1280x960@72hz but when i change it to 1280x960 ..... all i can see is 60Hz refreash rate |
| 23:23.37 | mrec | ambrose: I don't ask to ask that's a clear question |
| 23:23.58 | syl-2 | i know where to go and what to do but well it seems something's wrong |
| 23:24.00 | ambrose | sorry mrec |
| 23:24.05 | azeem | mrec: yes, but maybe they are not on this channel |
| 23:24.09 | ambrose | my mistake mrec |
| 23:24.34 | wethion | I'm getting strange display artifacts on my root window recently. They appear at the borders of windows and menus, but only on the root window. They're narrow rectangles defining the edge of the window, and are filled with more or less randomly colored pixels. Its not hardware, because it's on 2 systems, both running Sid. |
| 23:24.40 | mrec | ambrose: I have such device and I'm writing a driver for it and I'm looking for beta testers, so if anyone has that device he'd very likely be interested in getting it work |
| 23:24.47 | rahul | i am usgin ubuntu on AMD64 and 7800GTX |
| 23:24.50 | DimmuR | Is there any soft for linux/debian that helps in tuning signal for dvb card? (for windows there are apps that show wich side turn antena to get better signal) ? |
| 23:24.57 | azeem | rahul: better try #ubuntu then |
| 23:25.02 | psychonate | er, this is odd |
| 23:25.03 | odla | rahul: #ubuntu |
| 23:25.11 | humpi | I think i really fucked up, can someone please hlep me, I accidentally deleted the folder /etc/x11 and everything saying its not there |
| 23:25.17 | humpi | how do i regenerate it? |
| 23:25.29 | rahul | no one helping me even there |
| 23:25.32 | syl-2 | isn't DocumentRoot the only truly mandatory information the virtual host files needs to contain ? |
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| 23:25.37 | odla | my cat is fucking retard...she is hissing at her reflection in a mirror |
| 23:25.38 | humpi | i dont mind uninstalling everything to do with x, theres nothing set up yet |
| 23:25.41 | rahul | :(( |
| 23:25.43 | bbrazil | humpi: 'dpkg --force-confmiss' for all your xpackages |
| 23:25.56 | raid_boggle | seems to be that /etc/hotplug/blacklist is the right place for Sarge not /etc/modprobe/blacklist |
| 23:25.58 | DimmuR | humpi: what filesystem? |
| 23:26.10 | bbrazil | humpi: that works too, and would probably be faster - make sure you purge them before reinstalling |
| 23:26.19 | azeem | mrec: did you try mailing debian-user e.g.? |
| 23:26.27 | psychonate | I come home after being away for 4 days; I sit down at my computer; and I can't seem to connect to any sites in my browser, nor ping any; yet I am still connected to IRC and AIM... |
| 23:26.35 | humpi | bbrazil: just reinstalling them? |
| 23:26.52 | bbrazil | humpi: you have to completely delete them first |
| 23:26.55 | humpi | Dimmur what do you mean? |
| 23:26.58 | psychonate | I also can't connect to my router on this LAN |
| 23:27.01 | psychonate | eh, I'm so confused |
| 23:27.20 | DimmuR | humpi: ext2, ext3 reiserfs? |
| 23:27.27 | humpi | bbrazil: if I do apt-get remove --purge x11-common will it uninstall everything? |
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| 23:27.31 | humpi | DimmuR ext3 |
| 23:27.33 | mrec | azeem: it's not so important, I'll just ask again when I'm in mood... sooner or later it will join the kernel and that question will be history.. |
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| 23:27.49 | azeem | mrec: ok |
| 23:27.52 | bbrazil | humpi: probably - use dpkg -S to find everything referencing /etc/x11 |
| 23:28.01 | humpi | bbrazil, ok thanks |
| 23:28.12 | odla | raid_boggl |
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| 23:29.38 | diana | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/5gYzcr83.html .. I'm using debian testing, and I typed a command as root "apt-get install iptraf" but it didn't ask me if I was sure... I didn't do "apt-get -y install iptraf" is there anyone that can explain to me why this happened simply? |
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| 23:29.55 | streuner | gravity: that's wasn't very long |
| 23:30.02 | odla | diana: did it only install iptraf? |
| 23:30.07 | ambrose | diana, you asked for a package and it took your word for it |
| 23:30.12 | gravity | streuner: It wasn't? |
| 23:30.13 | diana | odla: yes |
| 23:30.22 | ambrose | diana it would only ask if you were sure, if it need to install more packages than what you asked for |
| 23:30.27 | odla | diana: that's why...if it doesn't have dependecies it's like ambrose said |
| 23:30.29 | diana | ambrose: But usually it says how much space is going to be used, and asks for y/n |
| 23:30.41 | diana | ambrose: ahh I see...because it's only one |
| 23:30.54 | diana | cool, thanks for the information I appreciate the help |
| 23:30.58 | ambrose | diana, not because of quantity, but because you named it on the command line |
| 23:31.05 | streuner | gravity: hm, the traffic isn't that much (oftc.net)... |
| 23:31.09 | raid_boggle | anyone know about blocking modules from loading at boot on Sarge |
| 23:31.18 | ambrose | KerPlunk, if you had given two names with no dependencies, it still would install and not ask |
| 23:31.27 | KerPlunk | k |
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| 23:32.38 | humpi | bbrazil, thanks that worked, I still can't get wdm to come up though |
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| 23:32.55 | bbrazil | humpi: it using gdm or something? |
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| 23:33.22 | bbrazil | raid_boggle: /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 23:34.11 | AciD | anybody knows where I could find the debian swirl in svg format ? |
| 23:34.22 | humpi | bbrazil: no, im just trying to get it to display anything |
| 23:34.28 | humpi | i've never had x setup before |
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| 23:35.22 | DaReDcAt | hi |
| 23:35.26 | bbrazil | humpi: /etc/init.d/wdm start |
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| 23:37.17 | humpi | bbrazil: my monitor just blinks on and off then goes back to the console |
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| 23:37.35 | DaReDcAt | i'm tryin to find good "local proxy server for linux" |
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| 23:37.47 | DaReDcAt | with socks5 |
| 23:37.50 | krummie | try freshmeat |
| 23:37.50 | bbrazil | humpi: ah, your xserver isn't configured properly |
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| 23:38.13 | humpi | yup |
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| 23:38.14 | ambrose | humpi, are there messages left on the screen with EE at the left? |
| 23:38.35 | DaReDcAt | 2krummie: link? |
| 23:38.46 | raid_boggle | bbrazil thanks i will try that!!!!!! |
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| 23:39.32 | KerPlunk | !tell DaReDcAt about squid |
| 23:39.40 | jingle | if i do a lspci it says "Ethernet controller: Unknown device 17cb:0001 (rev 01)" Why can't it tell what card is plugged into the pcmcia slot (wireless card) |
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| 23:39.44 | humpi | ambrose, no, just says starting wings display manager |
| 23:39.59 | humpi | then my monitor blinks and goes back to the console |
| 23:40.18 | Alexandar | Is it hard to update ze kernel? |
| 23:40.24 | ambrose | have a look in /var/logs and see if there are any recent files with promising names |
| 23:40.26 | DaReDcAt | does squid support socks5? |
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| 23:41.02 | ambrose | humpi, and look in ~/.xsession-errors |
| 23:41.02 | DaReDcAt | i need server 2 hide my ip |
| 23:41.17 | Alexandar | DaReDcAt, for irc? |
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| 23:41.21 | DaReDcAt | no |
| 23:41.30 | DaReDcAt | 4 icq |
| 23:41.38 | DaReDcAt | &http |
| 23:41.52 | Alexandar | theres no need to be so paranoid =x |
| 23:41.54 | KerPlunk | !tell DaReDcAt about enter |
| 23:42.05 | DaReDcAt | :)) |
| 23:42.08 | KerPlunk | DaReDcAt: yes squid supports socks5, try /join #squid |
| 23:42.14 | strider | Alexandar: update kernel? |
| 23:42.24 | DaReDcAt | thx |
| 23:42.27 | Alexandar | yeah the netinst came with 2.4 |
| 23:42.45 | Alexandar | but on the bootup thingy i see something flasup saying it needs 2.6 |
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| 23:42.55 | Alexandar | flash up* |
| 23:42.58 | KerPlunk | Alexandar: type "linux26" at the "boot:" prompt when the netinst disc first boots and it will install 2.6 |
| 23:42.59 | strider | Alexandar: could be pcmcia |
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| 23:43.14 | m1ke_l | hi |
| 23:43.28 | m1ke_l | having alsa issue. can ya'll help? |
| 23:43.29 | KerPlunk | Alexandar: What does cat /etc/debian_version say? |
| 23:43.35 | Alexandar | will that kill everything ive already setup? |
| 23:43.38 | KerPlunk | !tell m1ke_l about ask |
| 23:43.54 | m1ke_l | this is it : https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=1681 |
| 23:44.14 | Alexandar | 3.1 |
| 23:44.15 | humpi | ambros: Xorg.0.log? |
| 23:44.15 | m1ke_l | but posted solution doesnt work...i dont have the emumixer.c file |
| 23:44.18 | ambrose | Alexandar, install the linux-image-2.6-686 package |
| 23:44.26 | Xeno^ | is there anyway to have ftp access direct to the root ( c:\ or similar ) ? |
| 23:44.36 | Xeno^ | to edit files easier than using shell cmd :p |
| 23:44.44 | Alexandar | the whatnow? |
| 23:44.52 | humpi | i can't find ~/.xsession-errors |
| 23:44.53 | bbrazil | Xeno^: yes, but thats a very bad idea |
| 23:45.04 | bbrazil | Xeno^: try 'nano' |
| 23:45.07 | Xeno^ | just better to find my way around in shell I guess? |
| 23:45.10 | Xeno^ | Aye I found nano ^^ |
| 23:45.17 | ambrose | Alexandar: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 23:45.40 | Alexandar | uname -a dumps out 2.4.27-2-386 , and err it also says i686 o.O |
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| 23:45.46 | strider | Alexandar: you can check dmesg for the boot up message |
| 23:45.48 | bbrazil | Xeno^: you can't really get much simpler than that, at least for a shell. You could try 'joe' |
| 23:45.50 | Alexandar | rgr ty |
| 23:46.12 | Xeno^ | bbrazil: I'll try it out:) thanks again. |
| 23:47.32 | humpi | ambros: i can't find ~/.xsession-errors |
| 23:48.26 | threat|idle | humpi, what about /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 23:48.42 | threat|idle | humpi, what about /var/log/XFree86.?.log for that matter |
| 23:48.49 | humpi | I found /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:49.02 | humpi | but the only errors in there are about fonts |
| 23:49.11 | humpi | and those shouldn't be crippling should they |
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| 23:50.12 | KerPlunk | humpi: Was X working before or is this your first time trying to setup X on this particular box/format? |
| 23:50.20 | humpi | first time |
| 23:50.26 | KerPlunk | humpi: xfree86 or xorg? |
| 23:50.41 | strider | should be xorg |
| 23:50.43 | humpi | i think i have both |
| 23:50.47 | KerPlunk | humpi: when you type "apt-get install x-window-system" as root does it say it's already the latest version? |
| 23:50.58 | humpi | i manually installed xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:50.58 | Alexandar | ambrose, "Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6-686" & apt-cache search brings up no results for "linux-image-" |
| 23:51.07 | KerPlunk | humpi: type that |
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| 23:51.38 | marccd | is there a way I couls see the channels with most people with irssi? |
| 23:51.40 | humpi | installing now |
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| 23:52.25 | strider | Alexandar: try looking for kernel-image-2... |
| 23:52.37 | KerPlunk | marccd: It doesn't matter what irc client you use, the commands to the irc daemon are the same. |
| 23:52.47 | marccd | KerPlunk: right |
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| 23:54.20 | Dewi | anyone know what package "dig" is in? |
| 23:54.24 | Dewi | the name server query tool? |
| 23:54.25 | DaReDcAt | and i wanna know where is KDE ROOT FOLDER? |
| 23:54.39 | DaReDcAt | by default |
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| 23:55.10 | humpi | BITCHTITS! |
| 23:55.11 | Kvant | Dewi, dnsutils |
| 23:55.16 | humpi | I love you KerPlunk |
| 23:55.20 | DaReDcAt | i know linux for 1.5 days |
| 23:55.34 | bbrazil | Dewi: apt-file search |
| 23:55.48 | KerPlunk | !mhallsmite humpi |
| 23:56.04 | OldakQuill | I need some DHCLIENT help: The network (100 ethernet) or machine (Debian laptop) hasn't changed (apart from an apt-get upgrade). It says "No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistant database." at end. |
| 23:56.06 | Dewi | bbrazil: I have no apt-file. But that's a great idea. |
| 23:56.06 | ambrose | wtf?!? |
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| 23:56.28 | humpi | I dont even care, atleast i dont have to fuck with x anymore |
| 23:56.36 | KerPlunk | lol |
| 23:56.46 | gnufan | Dewi: dnsutils |
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| 23:57.04 | Dewi | aah, it's there already |
| 23:57.06 | Dewi | but I need to be root |
| 23:57.06 | Dewi | thanks guys |
| 23:57.14 | raden | anyoine ever messed with iptables and passive FTP ? |
| 23:57.28 | gnufan | Dewi: root for what? |
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| 23:57.44 | KerPlunk | !tell raden about anyone |
| 23:57.48 | bbrazil | raden: it works - use the conn_trak_ftp (sp?) module |
| 23:57.51 | bilis | hello. anyone using qtorrent? |
| 23:57.52 | Dewi | gnufan: I'm really confused now. |
| 23:57.57 | Dewi | gnufan: I thought it was in sbin, but it's not |
| 23:58.12 | KerPlunk | !tell bilis about anyone |
| 23:58.13 | gnufan | Dewi: just use it. |
| 23:58.14 | Dewi | gnufan: I must have installed it earlier and totally forgotten |
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| 23:58.16 | Dewi | :P |
| 23:58.22 | raden | bbrazil, sorry for ignorance but howd i go about doing that |
| 23:58.40 | munkeh_ | ambrose, kernel-image pulled up results, ty. just to clarify it wont kill my settings and stuff right? |
| 23:58.48 | bbrazil | raden: are you using raw iptables? |
| 23:59.25 | bilis | does anyone use qtorrent? i was wondering if it stores the Upload/Download ratio for every session? Its a fast program i dont want to change. |
| 23:59.26 | raden | what yeah mean raw ? |
| 23:59.36 | vyrus001 | is there an rss fead somwhere for debian packages (like kernel updates?) |
