| 00:00.11 | Azar | syphox: I guess you are not running the correct resolution for a terminal |
| 00:00.33 | nima | i need some help compiling tempest for eliza |
| 00:00.35 | helldomain | cisse: one stupid question more: now I've got it, how do I create a deb from the sources i've got |
| 00:00.44 | Azar | I am running 800x600 in terminal |
| 00:01.10 | syphox | Azar: how do i change that res? |
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| 00:01.50 | Azar | syphox: good question, my first dumb thought is if you could run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but that is for X.. |
| 00:01.56 | useruser | syphox: you want to tell your bootloader to pass the right parameters to the kernel, i think |
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| 00:02.02 | secher_ | firefox b0rked? |
| 00:02.07 | syphox | ahh i use grub |
| 00:02.09 | secher_ | in sid... |
| 00:02.18 | nima | its looking for an sdl-config script, and it cant find it |
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| 00:02.21 | Azar | ack, grub |
| 00:02.23 | useruser | syphox: ok. i use lilo and have a line vga=791 in there |
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| 00:03.28 | Azar | mine is vga=ask in liloconf |
| 00:03.31 | nima | i tried installing libsld, but it was already there |
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| 00:04.04 | Azar | errrr I meant vga=normal |
| 00:04.08 | joey[] | how to set up cronjob (for php scripts) that will run every 2 hours? ( * 2 * * * ) ? |
| 00:04.12 | tyranix | nima: apt-file search sdl-config |
| 00:04.24 | CaT[tm] | * */2 * * * |
| 00:04.36 | CaT[tm] | 0 */2 * * * |
| 00:04.38 | CaT[tm] | rather |
| 00:04.48 | joey[] | that will run evey two hour? |
| 00:04.54 | joey[] | evey = every |
| 00:04.58 | joey[] | why / ? |
| 00:05.03 | dondelelcaro | joey[]: man 5 crontab; |
| 00:05.07 | CaT[tm] | man 5 crontab |
| 00:05.12 | CaT[tm] | heh :) |
| 00:05.50 | nima | tyranix: nothin |
| 00:06.02 | joey[] | CaT[tm], i'm looking at it right now :) |
| 00:06.17 | tyranix | nima: libsdl1.2-dev: usr/bin/sdl-config |
| 00:06.18 | useruser | secher_: seems fine to me |
| 00:06.49 | tyranix | nima: ahh, that's only in testing/unstable. Are you using stable? |
| 00:06.59 | nima | im in testing |
| 00:07.29 | tyranix | okay, then just get libsdl1.2-dev |
| 00:07.35 | redguy | does anyone know whare can I get a deb of winetools? |
| 00:07.53 | redguy | s/wha/whe/ |
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| 00:09.36 | etaylor | debconf: (Unable to load Gnome -- is libgnome2-perl installed?) |
| 00:09.43 | etaylor | but i've dpkg-reconfigured debconf and it says i have "Kde" selected as the frontend |
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| 00:10.27 | Azar | is nowadays the -m unclean accepted or still not tested? |
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| 00:11.51 | useruser | redguy: do you mean the wineutils package? |
| 00:12.31 | Azar | the tutorial written back in 2002 states: (about -m unclean extension) "This module has not been audited, and should not be used as a security device - it probably makes things worse, since it may well have bugs itself).... ? |
| 00:13.00 | Azar | discuss.. |
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| 00:13.01 | Azar | :) |
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| 00:13.31 | Azar | SerajewelKS: I got something funny for you |
| 00:13.46 | \xe6var | http://www.simnet.is/velfag/tmp/debian.png |
| 00:13.56 | Azar | discuss... hel o |
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| 00:14.41 | Azar | laughter aside, j1 is just a dyslexic, fucktard but dyslexic.. poor guy |
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| 00:15.05 | gravity | Did that guy come back? |
| 00:15.13 | Azar | yesterday, I logged him |
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| 00:15.36 | folial_ | hi! |
| 00:15.43 | Azar | tell me again about paster and I will show you |
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| 00:16.22 | azeem | Azar: /msg dpkg paster |
| 00:16.23 | hans0lo | when I do dpkg -l, what does "rc" at the begenning of the line mean? |
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| 00:16.34 | azeem | hans0lo: "removed, configuration files are still there" |
| 00:16.52 | folial_ | more and more frequently it happens to me to meet dependencies troubles when I want to install new sort of various software: what do you suggest me to do? thanks a lot!! |
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| 00:17.23 | Azar | here is: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1632 |
| 00:17.29 | folial_ | i've got "stable" like default-release |
| 00:17.41 | Azar | thanks, azeem :) |
| 00:18.27 | hans0lo | azeem: ty |
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| 00:20.07 | folial_ | it would be better to change my default-release level and pick more fine-grained configuration only for few crucial services? |
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| 00:20.24 | SperMite | is there anyway where i can get k3b on etch? |
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| 00:20.43 | streuner | SperMite: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 00:20.45 | _rene_ | !simple sid backport |
| 00:20.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports> |
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| 00:23.13 | koolr | how can i figure out what packges are using a certain library ?? |
| 00:23.21 | Jmax | how do i set the default charset to utf-8? |
| 00:23.23 | Jae_ | Any know if debian has an installation page from the net completely, without needing a livecd, I currently have gentoo distro installed and i hooked a slave drive up, im going to mount proc etc, and isntall debian through my other distro, untill its completely installed, and switch jumpers, making slave the master, but im in need a a livecd documentation............ |
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| 00:23.27 | Jmax | er |
| 00:23.28 | Jmax | locale |
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| 00:23.47 | Jmax | Jae_, the manual is enough |
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| 00:24.27 | Jmax | Jae_, http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ |
| 00:24.46 | Jmax | Jae_, it's not like installing gentoo :) |
| 00:24.55 | Googleman | hey |
| 00:24.58 | Googleman | what are Debian |
| 00:25.28 | folial_ | do you think that "testing" is a reasonably usable default-release level? |
| 00:25.32 | azeem | Googleman: http://www.debian.org |
| 00:25.42 | azeem | folial_: depends on your needs |
| 00:25.48 | litage | if xserver-xorg is installed and running ./configure says "Can't find X includes", which X dev package do i need? |
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| 00:26.20 | folial_ | I would need packages quite recent |
| 00:26.28 | folial_ | that would be nice |
| 00:26.29 | Jmax | folial_, works fine for me as a desktop |
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| 00:26.37 | folial_ | yes, for a desktop |
| 00:26.37 | Jmax | folial_, but i would not recommend it for a server |
| 00:26.37 | koolr | how can i figure out what packges are using a certain library ?? |
| 00:26.43 | folial_ | perfect |
| 00:26.43 | Googleman | ok |
| 00:27.04 | folial_ | so i'm going to dist-upgrade the world to new release |
| 00:27.10 | cisse | koolr: packages is tough, use ldd /path/to/app |
| 00:27.22 | Googleman | Debian like linux |
| 00:27.36 | Jmax | Googleman, debian is a distribution of linux |
| 00:27.41 | azeem | folial_: the world? |
| 00:27.59 | folial_ | I hope only that this won't lead to a too unstable system |
| 00:28.00 | gravity | litage: Try libx11-dev |
| 00:28.01 | azeem | folial_: also, sometimes packages are missing from testing, because they block some others or are considered buggy |
| 00:28.09 | gravity | litage: You may need more |
| 00:28.18 | azeem | folial_: and testing is less stable than stable, of course |
| 00:28.23 | folial_ | but it happens also in "stable" |
| 00:28.47 | folial_ | yes... less stable... but I need to know if it's 'reasonably' less stable |
| 00:29.04 | azeem | folial_: well, it changes daily, so one cannot predict the future |
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| 00:29.26 | folial_ | there are too many packages unavailable in stable, am I wrong? |
| 00:29.29 | koolr | cisee, i can't use it if i only know the name of package? |
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| 00:30.00 | Azar | folial_: me thinks testing is based on stable but with some untested packages added-on.. |
| 00:30.13 | Azar | azeem is that correct? |
| 00:30.16 | azeem | Azar: no |
| 00:30.21 | folial_ | that would be wondergul for me... |
| 00:30.27 | folial_ | wonderful |
| 00:30.34 | azeem | testing is based on unstable with some buggy package removed |
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| 00:30.41 | Azar | azeem a more descriptive ... description? for the curious |
| 00:30.52 | azeem | and other buggy packages not being updated due to their buggyness |
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| 00:30.54 | Azar | ah thanks so is the other way |
| 00:30.58 | litage | thanks gravity |
| 00:31.04 | yearnx | Hello every body |
| 00:31.16 | yearnx | I'm from china . |
| 00:31.18 | SperMite | when i add deb-src to one of my sid sources i get :: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/sid/Release Unable to find expected entry deb-src/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 00:31.22 | azeem | yearnx: hi |
| 00:31.37 | yearnx | hi |
| 00:31.38 | Azar | :) yearnx |
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| 00:31.43 | azeem | SperMite: can you paste that line? |
| 00:31.51 | gravity | litage: No problem |
| 00:32.08 | azeem | SperMite: you should exchange deb with deb-src, not add deb-src to the end |
| 00:32.14 | folial_ | I wanted only to know if it was a feasible idea to set as default-release "testing", while setting up some packages to be taken always from "stable" (like mysql or samba): is that possible, or that leads to bigger problems about dependencies? |
| 00:32.17 | azeem | SperMite: but keep the old deb line around |
| 00:32.33 | mhall | is there anybody on debian working on an improved install toolset or live CD? the unofficial live CDs all try to do too much. knoppix won't even let you write to a network drive because the unionfs 'steals' the writes and then you can't recover off a bad notebook disk onto a remote server. it sucks |
| 00:32.44 | magyar | ahoy geeks -_- |
| 00:33.05 | azeem | mhall: maybe the d-i people are taking what Ubuntu is doing, dunno |
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| 00:33.10 | Azar | folial_: if you do not have a solid reason to go using testing, better stick with stable |
| 00:33.27 | SperMite | azeem oh isee what i did wrong, i added deb-src to the end of the line =( been a long day.. |
| 00:33.36 | folial_ | reason is about many software I cannot install |
| 00:33.56 | Azar | folial_: software you have a burning need for? |
| 00:34.03 | folial_ | if my system set up is not f..ck.d |
| 00:34.14 | folial_ | sometimes |
| 00:34.22 | Azar | ... like what software? |
| 00:34.44 | folial_ | last try was about NVU |
| 00:35.00 | Azar | folial_: what is NVU? |
| 00:35.08 | folial_ | but it's only the last of longer set |
| 00:35.12 | hans0lo | magyar: are ye a pirate?! "Ahoy"? |
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| 00:35.29 | folial_ | Firefox substitution of Mozilla Composer |
| 00:35.30 | Jae_ | hmm, So I cannot install debian over an existing distro by mounting proc, and chrooting, and getting files, im pretty much new to debian. |
| 00:35.36 | azeem | folial_: does testing have nvu? |
| 00:35.39 | magyar | hans0lo, nope |
| 00:35.45 | azeem | folial_: no, it hasn't |
| 00:35.50 | folial_ | I was trying to figure out... |
| 00:35.55 | azeem | Jae_: well |
| 00:35.58 | hans0lo | magyar: no need to pirate free oss |
| 00:36.10 | azeem | Jae_: there is debtakeover, but it does not yet work for sarge |
| 00:36.11 | magyar | lol |
| 00:36.18 | hans0lo | hehe |
| 00:36.29 | Jae_ | azeem, so im pretty much assed out ? lol |
| 00:36.32 | folial_ | uhm... and going towards unstable is so crazy? |
| 00:36.36 | azeem | Jae_: you can also use debootstrap to make a chroot and then try to get that booted by adding a kernel and grub entries |
| 00:36.40 | Jae_ | Im trying to get a good distro to run cpanel |
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| 00:36.54 | mhall | hans0lo: no i'd say he's a hungarian, but pirate is close enough |
| 00:36.54 | azeem | folial_: it is not advised |
| 00:37.03 | Azar | folial_: not at all, it is a good experience trying it, then you can reinstall to go back to stable if you have problems |
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| 00:37.04 | Jae_ | I have physical access, but no blank cd's.. |
| 00:37.29 | mhall | Jae_: floppy debian install |
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| 00:37.34 | folial_ | yep... my actual working situation doesn't allow this for my machine |
| 00:37.43 | folial_ | I am here for this reason |
| 00:37.59 | Azar | folial_: then give up and look for a working substitute within the stable |
| 00:38.04 | folial_ | sorry... that would be a stunning experience... |
| 00:38.09 | SperMite | I'm using etch with sid sources to get k3b and im having alil trouble getting it this is wall it wants me to upgrade just to get it, http://pastebin.com/521596 |
| 00:38.14 | folial_ | uhm... that's hard, I think |
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| 00:38.25 | folial_ | however... I thank you so much! |
| 00:38.31 | Azar | folial_: there are packages listed for stable at debian.org |
| 00:38.35 | mhall | apt: yeah don't do that |
| 00:38.37 | mhall | shit |
| 00:38.41 | mhall | SperMite: don't do that |
| 00:38.44 | yearnx | Anybody can talk with me via msn ? |
| 00:38.51 | mhall | yearnx: NO |
| 00:38.56 | yearnx | Why? |
| 00:38.57 | folial_ | sorry, what d |
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| 00:39.04 | pbang | hey all. If I'm using the line "find "$learnspamdir"/ -name \* -mtime +7 -exec rm {} \;", then how can I make it so it doesn't try and delete the directory "$learnspamdir" itself? (if nothing in that dir has been touched in 7 days, it tries deleting it) |
| 00:39.05 | folial_ | sorry, what do you mean, Azar? |
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| 00:39.15 | mhall | yearnx: do we seem like we're microsoft to you? |
| 00:39.20 | SperMite | mhall wasnt going to how can i get it so it only installs k3b? |
| 00:39.36 | mfrisch | yearnx: I'll jabber you |
| 00:39.39 | yearnx | O !I know . : ) sorry . everybody |
| 00:39.39 | Sonny | hello I'm trying to run xcdroast but I receive this message: "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" |
| 00:39.44 | mhall | SperMite: you can't |
| 00:39.51 | mhall | SperMite: it won't work without the right deps |
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| 00:39.57 | mhall | !tell SperMite about backports |
| 00:40.01 | chrisq | Sonny: dont run as root |
| 00:40.02 | yearnx | mfrisch : hi |
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| 00:40.30 | cisse | pbang: i would play with -mindepth |
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| 00:40.44 | folial_ | Sonny: u have to use it as the 'owner' of X... if you need root, try to use `su -p` |
| 00:40.49 | Zik_z_Amiru | Hello, I need help with running speedtouch 330 DSL modem on knoppix, could anyone help me with it? |
| 00:40.50 | yearnx | Hi mfrisch , are you really jabber me ? |
| 00:40.51 | mfrisch | yearnx: jabber is a good replacement for msn |
| 00:40.57 | mhall | pdavis: mindepth 1 will probably work |
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| 00:41.08 | mhall | pbang: -mindepth 1 will probably work |
| 00:41.10 | pbang | cisse: I'll have a look. I just thought that someone might be famiialer enough with it for a quick fix... ;) |
| 00:41.25 | mhall | pbang: however try -exec echo first |
| 00:41.26 | Jae_ | debians installation guide, drives me a but nuts |
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| 00:41.28 | yearnx | mfrisch: Can you introduce jabber to me ? |
| 00:41.40 | mhall | pbang: or find . -maxdepth 2 -mindepth 1 |
| 00:41.43 | mhall | pbang: or some test of it |
| 00:41.47 | jbroome | jabber, meet yearnx. yearnx, meet jabber |
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| 00:42.05 | yearnx | How to start jabber ???????????? |
| 00:42.15 | mhall | jbroome: lol this is your baby now |
| 00:42.21 | jbroome | nope |
| 00:42.27 | mfrisch | yearnx: apt-get install psi; then run psi register new account, that is on jabber.org. |
| 00:42.33 | kspath | yearnx: same way you start centericq or pork or naim |
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| 00:42.55 | Azar | folial_: http://packages.debian.org/stable/ |
| 00:43.00 | mfrisch | pork?!? |
| 00:43.03 | yearnx | Ok |
| 00:43.16 | mhall | mfrisch: or badger |
| 00:43.17 | Sonny | folial_, thanks it worked, why this happens? |
| 00:43.21 | mhall | mfrisch: perhaps mushroom and snake |
| 00:43.24 | bluefox83 | howo do i change the owner of a file? |
| 00:43.36 | bluefox83 | *how |
| 00:43.42 | liable | bluefox83: man chown |
| 00:43.42 | mfrisch | mhall: ;-) |
| 00:43.43 | kspath | mhall: footy |
| 00:43.53 | mhall | kspath: ? |
| 00:43.53 | yearnx | Thanks mfrisch and mfrisch |
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| 00:44.01 | cisse | oy |
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| 00:44.04 | cisse | how do you just match with sed |
| 00:44.14 | mfrisch | he thinks we helped him? |
| 00:44.14 | mhall | cisse: use awk |
| 00:44.21 | yearnx | But my debian have not xwindows just shell , can I use it ? |
| 00:44.24 | cisse | mhall: i have no awk skills =( |
| 00:44.32 | mhall | cisse: | awk '/regex/ { print $0; }' |
| 00:44.41 | kspath | mhall: badger and snake and mushroom references I assumed you knew about footy or magical trevor or kenya |
| 00:44.44 | cisse | god where have i been |
| 00:44.53 | cisse | thx mhall |
| 00:45.07 | yearnx | O my GOD! Psi :cannot connect to x server... |
| 00:45.13 | kspath | mfrisch: you no like pork? |
| 00:45.15 | mhall | cisse: http://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/ |
| 00:45.24 | kspath | yearnx are you root!?!?! |
| 00:45.29 | mhall | cisse: and you know egrep will work yeah? |
| 00:45.36 | mfrisch | kspath: I'm a Jewish vegatarian. |
| 00:45.43 | Azar | yearnx: you need to install xserver, and configure your video card driver module first |
| 00:45.45 | cisse | mhall: yeah |
| 00:45.59 | mhall | kspath: sadly i'm a bit short on references |
| 00:45.59 | yearnx | mfrisch: yes . I have installed psi |
| 00:46.01 | Azar | yearnx: assuming you have a 2.6.x kernel first |
| 00:46.04 | mhall | cisse: what are you trying to do |
| 00:46.05 | kspath | mfrisch: I did not ask you to eat meat. Meet pork the decent AIM and other client |
| 00:46.12 | yearnx | I know |
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| 00:46.30 | kspath | mfrisch: I like to eat veggies but I was raised on meat and it is HARD to give up |
| 00:46.31 | yearnx | Sorry . I cannot install it in my server .... |
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| 00:46.44 | cisse | mhall: have a xml config file with a <scanengine ... port="xxxx" ...> tag and i want to grab port="xxxx" |
| 00:46.48 | Azar | yearnx: that is sad |
| 00:46.48 | mfrisch | kspath: joke. I have psi and donot use AIM MSN or other. |
| 00:47.01 | mhall | cisse: ah alright |
| 00:47.16 | kspath | mhall: do you tackle and slaughter your meat? |
| 00:47.17 | yearnx | Beause my debian was installed in Vmware . Just a virtual debian. |
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| 00:47.44 | Azar | yearnx: so sad |
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| 00:47.56 | mfrisch | Azar: ha |
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| 00:48.05 | Azar | mfrisch: :) |
| 00:48.07 | kspath | mfrisch: was forced/tricked into using icq/aim because so many other staff used it as back channel communications and after hours communications |
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| 00:48.41 | Azar | why allways at work happens the icq/aim horrors? |
| 00:48.52 | mfrisch | kspath: I run jabberd and let friends and family join. ejabber looks Cool! |
| 00:49.00 | yearnx | I have a question??? |
| 00:49.07 | Azar | yearnx: sure, ask |
| 00:49.25 | litage | if installing libqt3-mt-dev didn't get rid of "configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found", which package will? |
| 00:49.33 | kspath | Azar: it is not a horror, it is almost the same as irc ever use write or talk on a system? |
| 00:49.54 | magyar | spent |
| 00:49.55 | mhall | cisse: awk '/port=/ { for ( i = 1 ; i < NF; ++i ) if ($i ~ /port=/) print $i; }' |
| 00:50.03 | mhall | cisse: that will get you port= |
| 00:50.07 | mhall | cisse: let me strip port= |
| 00:50.08 | kspath | mfrisch: I do not use the graphics I shut it all down. I only worry abuot the content |
| 00:50.20 | Azar | kspath: at work I often notice people not caring about what they do on the company's network systems. one good reason? it is not "their" machines so who cares? |
| 00:50.29 | yearnx | Why you only use the psi , not to use MSN ? |
| 00:50.33 | cisse | mhall: ah i can do that thx |
| 00:50.46 | mhall | cisse: yeah if you want or i can fix it if you want fewer pipes |
| 00:50.59 | folial_ | Azar, found it, thanks |
| 00:51.01 | Azar | yearnx: MSN is a microsoft windows application it does not run on a linux system |
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| 00:51.07 | yearnx | I feel good when use the MSN in windows .. |
| 00:51.13 | kspath | Azar: not sure I understood. caring about systems is related to icq/aim? |
| 00:51.14 | Azar | :) nice, folial_ |
| 00:51.16 | magyar | i dont know if its the mushrooms, but every time i use M$ i get paranoid |
| 00:51.29 | mhall | cisse: http://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/ |
| 00:51.32 | zebalin4 | For any of you who have been 'hosed by hal' like I was, 'etorix' gave me the solution and I posted it on Debcentral: http://debcentral.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=127&post_id=828#forumpost828 |
| 00:51.37 | mfrisch | magyar: blue |
| 00:51.41 | cisse | heh =D |
| 00:51.45 | yearnx | I know , why you dont use windows OS? |
| 00:51.46 | magyar | yeap |
| 00:51.47 | Azar | kspath: sorry , do not mind me I am a paranoid anti icq, anti msn, anti aim |
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| 00:52.05 | Azar | yearnx: no, I quit using it |
| 00:52.12 | nagura | hi, is a good ideas to new install system with the same package selections as the old system via dpkg --get-selections and --set-selections? |
| 00:52.22 | magyar | Azar, eheeheheheehehe!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 00:52.24 | kspath | azar: anti xwindows? anti smtp? anti irc? |
| 00:52.26 | treyh0 | oh snap |
| 00:52.29 | treyh0 | qbrew is nice |
| 00:52.37 | mhall | cisse: well i figured you'd want to learn some elite awk tricks |
| 00:52.39 | treyh0 | a homebrewer's recipe calculator |
| 00:52.43 | Azar | kspath: no only messenger things, I can't stand them |
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| 00:52.50 | cisse | mhall: i am actually |
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| 00:53.02 | kspath | Azar: ok |
| 00:53.08 | SperMite | theres no way to switch from etch to stable is there? |
| 00:53.15 | yearnx | Sorry , I offline just........ |
| 00:53.19 | magyar | Azar, i read some where that using M$ is like being in the bedroom with Mike Tyson |
| 00:53.37 | Azar | even e-mail at work is an annoyance for me idiots e-mailing me from other departments with idiotic comments |
| 00:53.42 | mfrisch | magyar: you so crazy |
| 00:53.49 | magyar | Azar, you just know you going to get FSCKED and you not going to like it |
| 00:53.55 | Azar | yearnx: no problem good you are back :) |
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| 00:54.39 | magyar | mfrisch, big time -_- |
| 00:54.49 | kspath | Azar: unfortunately, many companies and managers care not about interruptions. |
| 00:55.01 | yearnx | Azar: where are you from ? |
| 00:55.14 | Azar | magyar: I have strong economic reasons not to feed a company who sells me its products for big money then use me as their personal tester for the product I bought, and on top of that snub me |
| 00:55.33 | Azar | yearnx: Romania |
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| 00:56.01 | secher_ | am I the only one whose firefox is broken? |
| 00:56.12 | mfrisch | secher_: no! |
| 00:56.22 | magyar | Azar, uh, the "test bunny" mode |
| 00:56.22 | yearnx | Romania's football player is very good !!! : ) |
| 00:56.45 | Azar | secher_: I had hiccups this morning (7 hours ago) with it as well |
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| 00:56.57 | kspath | I quit using M$ product a while back but there are many problems with going without M$ completely. |
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| 00:57.11 | mhall | cisse: got it! |
| 00:57.15 | mhall | cisse: cat test.txt | awk '/port=/ { for ( i = 1 ; i < NF; ++i ) if ($i ~ /port=/) { gsub(/[a-zA-Z="]+/, "", $i); print $i } }' |
| 00:57.15 | magyar | kspath, not for me |
| 00:57.36 | mhall | cisse: enjoy, hehehe |
| 00:57.41 | mfrisch | kspath: I have been using an xp qemu image, and it still sucks |
| 00:57.45 | secher_ | mfrisch_: any idea what's wrong, or do I need to submit a bug? |
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| 00:58.10 | mhall | Azar: the more i use open source the more i hate M$ |
| 00:58.28 | Azar | kspath: another strong reason to love being on Debian GNU/Linux is that I can install or delete whatever my heart desires, no forced MSN, no forced e-mail client, no forced media player, no forced browser |
| 00:58.30 | mhall | luckily it looks like i might get a good job at a unix company soon now |
| 00:58.42 | mhall | but i better not screw up the interview, heh |
| 00:58.45 | Jmax | how can i test that my locales are actually utf-8 and are proper? |
| 00:58.53 | mfrisch | secher_: I use amd-64 sid and have had no luck with firefox but standard mozilla and konqueor no problem |
| 00:58.55 | kspath | hehehe, I think you have me confused with someone that likes M$. I STRONGLY dislike them and what they do. However, they are the 800 lb gorilla that you have to convince others is not worth any amount of money. |
| 00:59.10 | Azar | mhall I worked "teeth and nails" for 3 years to learn to use Debian, and success: 3 months ago I stopped the m$ box. |
| 00:59.17 | mhall | Azar: sweet |
| 00:59.27 | kspath | Azar: somehow you have me confused with someone that even uses windblowz. |
| 00:59.27 | mfrisch | mhall: where, are they hiring! |
| 00:59.33 | ootput | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:59.37 | mhall | mfrisch: unix companies? sure |
| 00:59.51 | mhall | mfrisch: especially if you go to washington state because everybody there only knows ms |
| 00:59.55 | Azar | kspath: ? sorry I did not understand.. |
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| 01:00.21 | kspath | Azar: using a AIM or ICQ client has ZERO to do with running ANY M$ products. |
| 01:00.28 | mfrisch | mhall: Washington State has unix jobs? |
| 01:00.30 | mhall | cisse: how about that patched up command hehe |
| 01:00.52 | mhall | mfrisch: sure i worked on unix boxes writing cellular phone billing apps for 8 months as an internship and the pay was great |
| 01:00.53 | cisse | mhall: hrm how do you match within a particular line |
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| 01:01.11 | bluefox83 | anyone familiar with SDL errors? |
| 01:01.17 | bluefox83 | and how to solve them :/ |
| 01:01.18 | Azar | kspath: sorry I did not meant that, it was just a general observation about how people, at workplaces would use messengers.. |
| 01:01.25 | SperMite | Does debian sarge only come in 3.2? |
| 01:01.27 | mhall | cisse: alright in awk, $0 is the line, $1 is field 1 , $2 field 2 and so on |
| 01:01.36 | cisse | right |
| 01:01.39 | azeem | SperMite: Debian sarge is 3.1 |
| 01:01.40 | mhall | cisse: so $i is the i'th item in the line |
| 01:01.40 | magyar | 3.1 |
| 01:01.47 | Azar | Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 = Sarge |
| 01:01.48 | cisse | oh HEH |
| 01:01.55 | kspath | Azar: I only know anything about M$ Windblowz products because 90% of the jobs practically force it. |
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| 01:02.04 | mhall | cisse: $i ~ /regex/ is matching i'th item against regex :-) |
| 01:02.11 | pbang | mhall: sweet. " -maxdepth 2 -mindepth 1" works like a charm. |
| 01:02.17 | mhall | cisse: yes, that $i shit is crazy like php variable variables |
| 01:02.24 | mhall | pbang: yeah one trick then |
| 01:02.30 | mfrisch | mhall: I have been working crappy jobs installing; 1 month here, there. This area sucks for IT. |
| 01:02.30 | mhall | pbang: do you want to limit maxdepth still? |
| 01:02.47 | mhall | mfrisch: yeah one of my friends lives in delta, oh |
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| 01:02.49 | Jacky^afk | hi |
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| 01:02.52 | mhall | mfrisch: and he's had real bad luck |
| 01:03.00 | mhall | mfrisch: so he helps run his uncle's welding co |
| 01:03.04 | kspath | Azar: You might consider running a Windblowz box to help defeat them. By showing others how you can do 90-95% of anything they can do on M$ product on Debian boxen. |
| 01:03.09 | tarso_ | away |
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| 01:03.29 | mfrisch | mhall: its bad..and they just anounced a ford plant to close. |
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| 01:04.03 | Azar | kspath: that is one reason Id say given the miserable conditions of the m$ OS at work place there should not exist other than a word processor, a spreadsheet, some specific work related application and mail. Internet , media and messengers should not exist. |
| 01:04.09 | pbang | mhall: It works as-is. All I know is that with maxdepth and mindepth it keeps to the files in the specified dir. Should I remove maxdepth? |
| 01:04.11 | mhall | mfrisch: the midwest has really been fucked for a while now, it's sad |
| 01:04.18 | Jacky | does exist some good howto to install 2 Sata HD in Raid Software mode ? |
| 01:04.26 | mhall | pbang: yeah, on that, maxdepth limits how deep you can go |
| 01:04.42 | mhall | pbang: so you might want to pull it out if you anticipate the directory tree getting deeper over time |
| 01:04.50 | mhall | pbang: or your command might fuck up |
| 01:04.51 | cisse | Jacky: just install as you normally would, format both drives as 'raid autodetect' run the raid configure tool, and then format the partition =D |
| 01:04.54 | kspath | Azar: just do not connect them to the internet |
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| 01:05.05 | mfrisch | mhall: They put all there eggs in the big bussiness basket, and it slides from underneith them. |
| 01:05.18 | mhall | mfrisch: sux0r |
| 01:05.22 | rend | so i plugged in a usb printer and it looks like it was detected.. now how do i use it? |
| 01:05.22 | Jacky | cisse: which installer can I use ? |
| 01:05.23 | Azar | some of you might not know or remember how was cyberlife before Windows.. WP for Dos, Lotus for Dos, when people would really stick with the work |
| 01:05.34 | cisse | Jacky: any, i would use the sarge netinstall personally |
| 01:05.42 | Jacky | cisse: thanks |
| 01:05.43 | pbang | mhall: well, I'm dealing with imap directories, so if I just want to remove message files IN that dir, then should I set maxdepth to 1 as well? |
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| 01:06.10 | pbang | mhall: because you're right - nothing is stopping people from creating sub-dirs. |
| 01:06.17 | kspath | Azar: some of us rememeber from before DOS existed. You would be surprised. |
| 01:06.18 | mhall | mfrisch: maybe it's time for you to just start interviewing like crazy |
| 01:06.26 | bwlang | nobody active in exim... i'm migrating mailservers and i need to inject some mail from files into the new server's queue... can i do that easily - or do i have to break apart the file into individual messages? |
| 01:06.28 | mhall | pbang: yeah you know how it is, people are bastards |
| 01:06.40 | mhall | pbang: so they'll always come up with some kind of odd crap you don't want |
| 01:06.49 | dvs | mfrisch: Pick me! Pick me! |
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| 01:07.44 | Azar | kspath: my point is, lately people are not working , just keep e-mailing pictures, games, gossips, chat on messengers n shit... I wonder how companies allow this shit |
| 01:07.53 | mfrisch | mhall: have and interview over and over again, I'm thinking about southern fla. North Carolina use to be good for unix, well RH, but I heard thats not true anymore. |
| 01:08.32 | ootput | clear |
| 01:08.33 | kspath | Azar: most of the other people are not doing their job either. |
| 01:08.33 | pbang | mhall: so maxdepth 1 in theory will still work? if someone knows that this folder "Spam" will be deleted, but they create "Spam/Cool\ Spam" then I don't care. If they want to keep messages in there, then so be it. |
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| 01:08.46 | mfrisch | dvs: what's good |
| 01:08.52 | Azar | heck I take pride of being one of a kind then |
| 01:08.59 | kspath | Azar: my ex supervisor and half the other staff were play Warcraft every other day |
| 01:09.13 | dvs | mfrisch: Oh? You're applying for another job. I though you were interviewing. |
| 01:09.16 | Azar | you know, lousy company, lousy workers |
| 01:09.32 | cisse | mhall: ah got it awk ' { for ( i = 1; i < NF; ++i ) if ( $i ~ /port=/ ) { print $i } }' |
| 01:09.34 | kspath | Azar: not always true but yeah |
| 01:09.37 | cisse | mhall: thx |
| 01:10.17 | Azar | kspath: lately companies are hiring gays with good looks instead hiring people willing to create, work , contribute |
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| 01:10.33 | mfrisch | dvs: I wish. The last interview for unix in this area I had was in 1999 |
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| 01:10.35 | kspath | Azar: I do not mind if a company lets the staff stay after work to play a game on the n0tw3rk with each other. bonding as a team sort of but not during normal work hours every other freaking day |
| 01:11.17 | mfrisch | kspath: and during work, |
| 01:11.28 | Azar | kspath: and next thing you know the union sues the company for forcing people staying overtime unpaid... thats the way it goes on lately |
| 01:11.38 | kspath | mfrisch: instead of work often |
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| 01:12.22 | Azar | no mis-use, no abuse |
| 01:12.40 | mfrisch | kspath: We need to code a 3-d word editor so people think their having fun while working. |
| 01:13.24 | kspath | mis-use and time wasting is relative. If someone is installing every window manager and playing around with them instead of working on their overdue project. How is that different than out right gaming. |
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| 01:14.45 | kspath | mfrisch: fun is subjective and relative fit they were forced to play test games all day with various dead lines it might not be fun very long. |
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| 01:14.52 | samzzzz | hi |
| 01:15.12 | samzzzz | is there any way to let my pppoe-start start always with ppp0 |
| 01:16.25 | shwag | since TCP is commonly called TCP/IP...does that mean that UDP is also UDP/IP ? |
| 01:16.33 | zinx | it is |
| 01:16.38 | zinx | but no one calls it that |
| 01:17.10 | robgood | TCP is more common than UDP |
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| 01:20.18 | Jacky | sorry.. is Sarge the Stable version ? |
| 01:20.24 | folial_ | goodnight |
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| 01:21.07 | dvs | Jacky: Yes |
| 01:21.12 | Jacky | thanks |
| 01:21.19 | dvs | Jacky: Installing? |
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| 01:22.05 | Jacky | dvs: a friend asked to me for help to install Debian using Raid Software and 2 HD Sata |
| 01:22.13 | ootput | that may be tricky |
| 01:22.16 | Jacky | im tryng to help him |
| 01:22.23 | rend | so i plugged in a usb printer and it looks like it was detected.. now how do i use it? |
| 01:22.28 | ootput | has he any previous linux installation? |
| 01:22.44 | Sonny | is there a way to reload fstab? |
| 01:22.48 | ootput | Jacky: there's a debootstrap guide that'll work nicely for Sata + Raid setups |
| 01:22.49 | rend | it seems like my system is setup for cups but i get errors saying it cant be contacted |
| 01:22.59 | stew | Sonny: "mount -a" depending on what you mean by reload |
| 01:23.06 | ootput | Jacky: but that requires an existing installation, or a livecd with debootstrap |
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| 01:23.23 | stew | ootput: the debian-installer supports raid |
| 01:23.44 | cisse | hrm if a bash variable is in quotes, is there any way to escape it so it's value is used ? |
| 01:23.48 | Jacky | ok, it should not be hard |
| 01:23.49 | ootput | stew: yes |
| 01:23.49 | Sonny | stew; I men reload the file, because I just modify the info inside it |
| 01:24.03 | blunted | hello would anyone like to help me setup X on debian .. i just installed and its a little confused about whats happening .. i think i most likely made a mistake along the way somewhere |
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| 01:24.28 | stew | Sonny: you mean in an editor? |
| 01:24.37 | Azar | blunted, you installed which version of Debian and with which version of kernel? |
| 01:24.55 | Sonny | stew: yep |
| 01:24.59 | Jacky | oh, stew I was talking about software raid, not hd , it should work right ? |
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| 01:25.13 | blunted | fr~Azar: Sarge .. not sure about the kernel .. im a noob :/ |
| 01:25.27 | Azar | blunted at command line type: uname -a |
| 01:25.29 | Jacky | hw* |
| 01:25.32 | blunted | k |
| 01:25.33 | Azar | tell us which version number |
| 01:25.55 | stew | Jacky: yes, the installer supports software raid, /msg dpkg ig |
| 01:25.57 | stew | Sonny: what editor? |
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| 01:26.04 | Sonny | vim |
| 01:26.05 | Jacky | stew: ty |
| 01:26.09 | Sonny | stew, vim |
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| 01:26.28 | stew | Sonny: hitting "u" will undo changes |
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| 01:26.45 | ootput | Jacky: http://juerd.nl/site.plp/debianraid |
| 01:26.51 | ootput | Jacky: that was my proposal |
| 01:27.05 | Jacky | ootput: ok, thanks |
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| 01:27.34 | chemaja | shwag, zinx is right. Further, UDP is more closely tied to IP than TCP is. I forget how exactly (UDP can be thought of as a "simple" port multiplexor for IP, whereas TCP is more portable) |
| 01:27.51 | stew | ootput: why would you recommend debootstrap over d-i? |
| 01:27.55 | blunted | fr~Azar: 2.4.27-2-386. #1 |
| 01:28.12 | Azar | blunted, ok, my advice is that you upgrade the kernel |
| 01:28.21 | blunted | hmm ok is that difficult |
| 01:28.26 | ootput | stew: because I encountered many difficulties when using d-i for raid setups |
| 01:28.37 | Azar | blunted: Debian's apt has a list with kernel-images to install from and it is easy |
| 01:28.39 | Sonny | stew: I mean reload, like /etc/init.d/networking restart , after you modify the "interfaces" file |
| 01:28.41 | stew | ootput: did you file an installation report? |
| 01:28.42 | ootput | stew: plus, it's much faster for me to script the neccessary steps for batch installations |
| 01:28.43 | blunted | ok cool |
| 01:28.44 | chemaja | shwag, ie. this is a reason why TCP is commonly referred to as TCP/IP, but not UDP |
| 01:28.46 | stew | Sonny: mount -qa |
| 01:28.50 | stew | Sonny: mount -a |
| 01:28.52 | blunted | so whats the name of the latest one ? |
| 01:29.03 | Azar | blunted: but since you are a newbie, you want to practice a bit some fundamentals is that ok with you? |
| 01:29.04 | Sonny | stew, I want the SO reload the info insite fstab without rebooting my pc |
| 01:29.10 | shwag | chemaja, interesting..thanks. |
| 01:29.19 | blunted | fr~Azar: sure |
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| 01:29.44 | ootput | stew: it worked for others, I assumed. i didn't feel that it was neccessary to do so if/when I figured it out for myself |
| 01:29.52 | Azar | blunted: first to know that Debian comes with three versions: stable = Sarge, testing = Etch and unstable = sid got it? |
| 01:30.05 | blunted | yep |
| 01:30.15 | sdfa | hi is there any way to let my pppoe account start always with ppp0 |
| 01:30.39 | Azar | blunted: second you need to learn about apt. Apt is the main tool that downloads and installs packages for you and is a MUST to learn it, just do some reading on it |
| 01:30.50 | stew | ootput: the d-i project would certainly appriciate you filing a report if the installer didnt' work for you |
| 01:30.56 | sdfa | hi is there any way to let my pppoe account start always with ppp0 |
| 01:30.57 | Azar | blunted: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html |
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| 01:31.10 | rend | damn. wish linux/debian printer support was better |
| 01:31.13 | Azar | blunted: disregard the non-US references ok, they do not exist anymore |
| 01:31.20 | blunted | ok right well im in apt now and i have found the kernel images and i know how to download from apt |
| 01:31.25 | dvs | rend: CUPS is no problem with me |
| 01:31.28 | blunted | ok i cant look at that link at the moment |
| 01:31.32 | boo | I just hooked up a new drive to my system. How do I see if it's detected and format it for use? |
| 01:31.35 | blunted | cause i have no browser :/ |
| 01:31.48 | Azar | blunted: you need to chose one kernel-image from a list accordingly with your CPU type |
| 01:31.57 | blunted | i see |
| 01:32.09 | dvs | boo: fdisk -l |
| 01:32.09 | ootput | stew: i'm sure of it. i lack the motivation (plans thwarted by real life dependencies) ;) |
| 01:32.09 | Azar | blunted: you do not need a browser |
| 01:32.19 | Azar | blunted: apt will show you a list and with apt you will install ok? |
| 01:32.22 | Azar | read about apt first |
| 01:32.43 | samoo | hi is there any way to let my pppoe account start always with ppp0 |
| 01:32.45 | blunted | ok yes |
| 01:32.47 | mfrisch | _rend cups rules |
| 01:32.54 | dvs | !tell samoo -about repeat |
| 01:33.07 | Azar | blunted: you know basic commands? like ls, less, cat, cp .. etc? at command line? |
| 01:33.15 | boo | Okay, so it sees it. How do I set it up? mkfs.ext3? |
| 01:33.18 | nagura | how can i start the install with 686 packages instead of 386? |
| 01:33.36 | dvs | nagura: For a kernel? |
| 01:33.38 | blunted | i know some of them |
| 01:33.41 | blunted | i just did lspci |
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| 01:33.48 | nagura | both |
| 01:33.55 | Azar | good, also you need to know how to work with a command line editor, you know that? |
| 01:34.04 | blunted | yes |
| 01:34.11 | wal | ola |
| 01:34.18 | blunted | i know some of them like pico but not vi or vim |
| 01:34.32 | dvs | blunted: You'll like nano |
| 01:35.15 | Azar | blunted: lastly for serious system installation "aptitude" is best of use like in aptitude install , apt-get just for small applications |
| 01:35.16 | mfrisch | blunted: learn vim |
| 01:35.16 | blunted | Azar ok |
| 01:35.36 | Azar | blunted: I understand you are impatient to get X but do yourself a favor and spend one day learning some basics in command line first |
| 01:35.56 | nagura | blunted: is debian install only use 386 packages? |
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| 01:36.01 | Azar | blunted: you do not have another PC with a browser handy? |
| 01:36.16 | blunted | Azar no but i am familiar with links browser |
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| 01:36.27 | Azar | blunted: sigh ok I will explain you then |
| 01:36.34 | blunted | ok thank you |
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| 01:37.06 | Azar | apt uses a file located in /etc/apt/ named sources list. look at it by typing : less /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:37.15 | blunted | ok |
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| 01:37.40 | rend | dvs: my printer model isnt specifically mentioned... |
| 01:37.47 | rend | canon s750 |
| 01:37.47 | Azar | blunted: the sources are made up of links that you can mentally divide in 3 parts: the url + the version name + options |
| 01:37.50 | pbang | dumb, but handy question: When running a long command, how can I save the output to both a file, AND have it continue to scroll on the screen? |
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| 01:37.57 | dvs | rend: And that makes it bad?!? |
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| 01:38.05 | mfrisch | rend do you have its ppd file |
| 01:38.13 | blunted | hmm no such directory |
| 01:38.21 | roby | xloadimage seems to not support bmp... what's an all around good console image viewer? |
| 01:38.22 | blunted | :| |
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| 01:38.36 | blunted | oh im sorry |
| 01:38.37 | blunted | yes i got it |
| 01:38.53 | blunted | ok yes |
| 01:39.07 | Azar | blunted: an example of this is: deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 01:39.28 | K350 | Does anyone know if it's possible from a user to either hie himself or his activities from w? |
| 01:39.33 | blunted | ok |
| 01:39.33 | rend | mfrisch: hmm.. maybe if i could mount the ntfs drive.. |
| 01:39.43 | blunted | yes i see that |
| 01:40.04 | mfrisch | rend no no they are on the mirror. |
| 01:40.04 | rend | how can i see a list of all drives and partitions on my box? |
| 01:40.19 | dvs | rend: fdisk -l |
| 01:40.22 | Azar | blunted: so make sure your sources end with those options: / stable main non-free contrib - edit them all then save the file |
| 01:40.31 | dvs | rend: At least all hard drives |
| 01:40.35 | rend | mfrisch: well i searched on linuxprinting.org but had no luck.. |
| 01:40.38 | blunted | ok how can i exit this menu |
| 01:40.57 | mfrisch | rend it was not listed or no ppd? |
| 01:41.02 | Azar | blunted: everytime you edit your sources.list is good to perform a : aptitude update and aptitude upgrade |
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| 01:41.17 | rend | i think i installed all the ppd drivers that was on the package.. i am to the point now where cups is sending test pages to my printer, but they are coming out blank |
| 01:41.20 | Azar | to exit a "less" view you press q |
| 01:41.32 | stew | K350: not without either replacing the w executable or |
| 01:41.34 | blunted | ok |
| 01:41.40 | stew | K350: ...or hacking the kernel |
| 01:41.50 | Azar | blunted: so did you made sure your sources look that way? |
| 01:41.53 | mfrisch | rend wrong ppd |
| 01:41.55 | rend | mfrisch; there is canon s630 and s800, but no s750 |
| 01:42.00 | blunted | one sec im going to do it now |
| 01:42.01 | blunted | brb |
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| 01:42.20 | K350 | fdisk -lhm....how can I protect my self ? |
| 01:42.25 | mfrisch | rend try other ones one may work. |
| 01:42.43 | rend | mfrisch: i keep trying but there are tons of canon printers, |
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| 01:43.03 | dvs | rend: The manual should mention a compatible printer |
| 01:43.08 | K350 | ok but that won't be possible withotu havign admin acces anyway...right? |
| 01:43.14 | mfrisch | rend how about s700? |
| 01:43.40 | K350 | can they replace w withotu having admin acces? |
| 01:45.13 | stew | K350: no, only root could replace w |
| 01:45.39 | blunted | ok done |
| 01:45.45 | blunted | updating and upgrading now |
| 01:45.49 | Azar | ok |
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| 01:46.09 | Azar | what CPU are your machine using, blunted ? |
| 01:46.18 | Azar | is* |
| 01:46.32 | blunted | Intel Celeron |
| 01:46.50 | Azar | ok one sec |
| 01:46.54 | blunted | k |
| 01:46.56 | rend | mfrisch: i dont see a s700 |
| 01:47.15 | K350 | ok thanks for your help!:-) |
| 01:47.18 | roby | I installed a package, it installed a bunch of other packages that depended on it, i want to remove the original package plus the additional installed ones which are not needed. Can this be done? |
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| 01:47.35 | Azar | blunted: PII, PII, P4 ? |
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| 01:47.59 | dvs | Azar: A Celeron is a (disabled) P4 |
| 01:48.05 | blunted | im not too sure :( but its an older one .. i think PII |
| 01:48.14 | blunted | would it be listed in lspci |
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| 01:48.21 | Azar | dvs thanks I am not familiar with intels, so dunno if he is on 386 or 686 |
| 01:48.28 | kspath | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:48.32 | dvs | Azar: 686 at least |
| 01:48.36 | gau | hello all i am trying to get a dotmatrix printer to work under debian |
| 01:48.38 | Azar | ok thanks dvs :) |
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| 01:48.42 | gau | what should i install ? |
| 01:48.42 | dvs | o_O |
| 01:48.44 | stew | roby: if you use aptitude this is done for you automatically, if you use apt-get you have to use a tool like deborphan or debforster, or if you are on testing/unstable you could look at the dpkg.log for a list of dependencies that were installed at the same time |
| 01:48.44 | gau | cups ? |
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| 01:49.02 | Azar | blunted: now you go search for your kernel-image: type apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 01:49.23 | Azar | blunted then look for any Celeron 686 kernel version 2.6.8 |
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| 01:49.28 | ClayG | is there a RDP like server for debian? |
| 01:49.33 | gau | i am sort of in a hurry and i have not got around to installing the printer drivers. I got to leave for a presentation in 30 minutes ... |
| 01:49.37 | blunted | ok |
| 01:49.37 | kspath | blunted: /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:49.40 | stew | ClayG: there are vnc servers |
| 01:49.41 | ClayG | Something a windows machine could connect to just like it would another? |
| 01:49.53 | mfrisch | rend that was an example, in my case I went to the same model, a year back. I use the 8040 instead of a 8045 |
| 01:50.16 | ClayG | I'm trying to find something can be accessed by the client that comes with XP, it uses RDP (I beleive) |
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| 01:50.25 | Azar | blunted: tell me what do you think your kernel-image should be |
| 01:50.30 | stew | ClayG: it uses rdp, and there is no rdp server for linux |
| 01:50.50 | rend | mfrisch: i have tried 6 models so far.. |
| 01:50.59 | roby | stew: thanks |
| 01:51.01 | rend | now i dont even get the blank test page |
| 01:51.38 | blunted | hmm wierd /proc/cpuinfo is denied to me as root |
| 01:51.42 | mfrisch | rend: you will find one that works. |
| 01:51.46 | ClayG | stew, what's a good Gnome'able vnc package to pick up? |
| 01:52.03 | stew | i don't know what gnomable means |
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| 01:52.24 | Azar | blunted: dvs thinks a 686 is good for you.. |
| 01:52.28 | blunted | ok so i found that kernel image |
| 01:52.29 | blunted | ok |
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| 01:53.03 | Azar | blunted now you will type : aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 01:53.09 | kspath | blunted: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:53.09 | blunted | ok |
| 01:53.12 | JMTeal | new to debian and need a small amount of assistance setting up my ssh server / my ethernet configuration |
| 01:53.12 | liable | blunted: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:53.18 | blunted | ah |
| 01:53.22 | Azar | yes blunted make sure |
| 01:53.36 | stew | ClayG: if you just want people to be able to log in remotely from xp you can use vncserver, if you need to share a desktop with the console user use rfb or maybe x11vnc |
| 01:53.49 | blunted | yes that works hehe |
| 01:53.59 | JMTeal | new to debian and need a small amount of assistance setting up my ssh server / my ethernet configuration PLS MSG |
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| 01:54.16 | stew | JMTeal: nobody is going to msg you, if you have a question, just ask it |
| 01:54.17 | Azar | blunted: by chance do you know what bootloader you installed with Sarge? grub or lilo? |
| 01:54.24 | blunted | grub |
| 01:54.30 | stew | Azar: grub by default but lilo is an option as well |
| 01:54.34 | Azar | ah ok, hopefully is going to work |
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| 01:54.49 | Azar | stew, ah oh yes? grub is default huh, nice |
| 01:55.08 | JMTeal | ok well what is the best (easiest too?) package to use to make my debian machine grab the same IP from my router every time |
| 01:55.08 | JMTeal | ? |
| 01:55.15 | Azar | blunted: are you installing the kernel? |
| 01:55.22 | dvs | JMTeal: dhclient |
| 01:55.23 | blunted | ok so under cat /proc/cpuinfo what do i need to identify ? |
| 01:55.25 | blunted | im about to now |
| 01:55.34 | dvs | JMTeal: Oh? The same IP? |
| 01:55.37 | pbang | When running a long command, how can I save the output to both a file, AND have it continue to scroll on the screen? |
| 01:55.38 | Azar | well what is the name of the CPU there, blunted ? |
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| 01:56.13 | Azar | Intel Celeron..what? |
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| 01:56.19 | JMTeal | i want my debian machine to always have 192.168.1.125 |
| 01:56.41 | JMTeal | so that i can put it in a DMZ and access it from the internet remotely |
| 01:56.45 | kspath | blunted: vendor_id cpu family modelname cpu Mhz and cachesize are mostly useful |
| 01:56.46 | dvs | JMTeal: Then just edit the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 01:56.49 | blunted | 2.20 ghz |
| 01:56.50 | JMTeal | or port forward... |
| 01:56.53 | JMTeal | whatever |
| 01:56.54 | blunted | k |
| 01:57.01 | stew | JMTeal: you shoudln't be using dhcp then or configure you router to always give that ip address to your mac address |
| 01:57.16 | JMTeal | my router doesn't have that function (lame) |
| 01:57.22 | stew | JMTeal: you might consider just using a static address though, man interfaces, or /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 01:57.27 | JMTeal | so have to force the machine to request it |
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| 01:58.00 | Azar | blunted: Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium 4 ? |
| 01:58.01 | dvs | JMTeal: You don't have to force a router to give you an IP |
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| 01:58.12 | JMTeal | i think you get the idea |
| 01:58.23 | stew | JMTeal: choose a static address with the last octet < 100 (since your router is presumably giving out address > 100 and you don't want to conflict) |
| 01:58.28 | JMTeal | i just started learning networking like practically now |
| 01:58.31 | blunted | cpu family 15 .. vendor id genuine intel .. model 2 .. cpy mhz 2192.913 .. cache 128 kb .. |
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| 01:58.44 | blunted | so do i :) my new pc will be amd |
| 01:59.01 | mfrisch | loves his AMD |
| 01:59.13 | Azar | hmm I don't know if would be a 686 or 386, let's go by dvs and go with 686 |
| 01:59.20 | blunted | ok |
| 01:59.26 | JMTeal | ok well where do i set up that static IP? 125 is fine cause it's only 2 laptops and my debian box on the network |
| 01:59.42 | Azar | blunted: aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 01:59.42 | blunted | installing .. |
| 01:59.43 | stew | if its > 233 mhz its definately 686 |
| 01:59.47 | kspath | blunted: modelname not model |
| 02:00.00 | kspath | blunted: does not matter |
| 02:00.15 | blunted | k |
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| 02:00.43 | Azar | blunted: then when done, reboot... I assume grub will do its job nicely |
| 02:00.48 | blunted | ok cool |
| 02:00.51 | JMTeal | i tried /msg dpkg man interfaces and i dont really understand what i got... |
| 02:01.12 | Azar | grub users, does blunted needs to do something with grub before reboot? |
| 02:01.15 | blunted | i should do aptitude upgrade and update afterwards ? |
| 02:01.29 | Azar | blunted: no, after reboot |
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| 02:01.33 | blunted | ok |
| 02:01.35 | blunted | brb |
| 02:01.37 | Azar | wait |
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| 02:01.41 | Azar | don't go yet |
| 02:01.48 | blunted | ok |
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| 02:02.38 | JMTeal | ok well where do i set up that static IP? 125 is fine cause it's only 2 laptops and my debian box on the network |
| 02:02.50 | Azar | if you reboot ok, do modconf and make sure your ethernet card driver module is checked (selected), sometimes happens to get disabled after kernel upgrade |
| 02:02.58 | stew | JMTeal: man interfaces, /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 02:03.13 | Azar | blunted: you must your ethernet card name in order to select it |
| 02:03.15 | JMTeal | stew: but i did that and it made no sense |
| 02:03.32 | Azar | blunted: all you do is type modconf after you reboot, ok? |
| 02:03.41 | blunted | ok |
| 02:03.46 | Azar | ok now you can go :) |
| 02:03.53 | JMTeal | stew: is that like a sample conf file? |
| 02:03.54 | blunted | :) |
| 02:03.56 | blunted | brb |
| 02:04.02 | JMTeal | er... interfaces file? |
| 02:04.02 | blunted | and thank you |
| 02:04.15 | stew | JMTeal: man interfaces is the manual, "/msg dpkg man interface" is the cheat sheet |
| 02:04.36 | JMTeal | stew: and the response i got is a sample interfaces file? |
| 02:04.53 | stew | !tell JMTeal about interfaces |
| 02:04.59 | stew | !tell JMTeal about man interfaces |
| 02:05.11 | JMTeal | stew: thx |
| 02:06.27 | rend | damn. i have never seen a printer go through the motions of printing but nothing comes out, unless the ink is gone. but normally still you will see a squirt or tow |
| 02:06.29 | rend | two |
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| 02:09.06 | JMTeal | stew : one more thing... do i need to know the broadcast address? and if so, how is that calculated? |
| 02:09.11 | rend | umm i mounted my windows box but saw no .ppd for my printer either. |
| 02:09.33 | stew | JMTeal: no, you don't need either network or broadcast, just address, netmask, gateway |
| 02:10.05 | blunted | ok |
| 02:10.08 | blunted | im back :) |
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| 02:10.51 | dvs | blunted: you survived! |
| 02:10.56 | blunted | :) |
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| 02:11.30 | dvs | blunted: Do "uname -r" just in case |
| 02:11.46 | Azar | :) wb blunted |
| 02:12.22 | Azar | blunted: was it hard? |
| 02:12.31 | JMTeal | ok anyone know whcik ftpd is the easiest to set up? i want to be able to add username/pw without adding an actual system user (useradd) and tell ftpd what the home is, and i also want no hassles.. |
| 02:12.52 | JMTeal | and no anon login |
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| 02:14.22 | bobobob333 | Under what license can the Contents file on the debian mirrors be distributed under? |
| 02:14.37 | astronut | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:15.12 | blunted | hmmm |
| 02:15.15 | compumike | Samba gurus: after recent upgrade, for accessing home directory shares, Samba now requires that the SMB username is identical to the Linux username. What happened? |
| 02:15.17 | Serialito | hi all |
| 02:15.21 | stew | astronut: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 02:15.22 | Serialito | debian sid rlz heh! |
| 02:15.33 | Azar | blunted: type uname -a see what version number shows now |
| 02:15.47 | stew | astronut: make sure that /root/.ssh is chmod 700 and authorized_keys is 600 |
| 02:15.50 | blunted | 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 02:15.50 | rend | is there a text only usb printer mode where its easier to setup than graphics? |
| 02:16.00 | Azar | :) ok |
| 02:16.08 | dvs | blunted: Yay! |
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| 02:16.08 | blunted | :) |
| 02:16.13 | blunted | wewt |
| 02:16.28 | dvs | bluefox83: *ahem* woot *ahem* |
| 02:16.34 | dvs | blunted: *ahem* woot *ahem* |
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| 02:16.40 | blunted | haha |
| 02:16.43 | Azar | blunted now x but before: find out exactly what video card you are using, monitor type/name |
| 02:16.47 | astronut | "Jan 24 21:12:45 astronut sshd[9951]: error: PAM: Authentication failure for root from debian |
| 02:16.48 | astronut | " is all it says |
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| 02:17.06 | blunted | lspci ? |
| 02:17.12 | Azar | yes :) |
| 02:17.19 | astronut | ah, the files are 644 |
| 02:17.26 | blunted | there is alot of stuff there hehe |
| 02:17.32 | blunted | hmm i need to identify |
| 02:17.40 | blunted | which is which |
| 02:17.57 | dvs | blunted: lspci | grep VGA |
| 02:18.00 | Azar | blunted: last line: VGA compatible controller: ? |
| 02:18.03 | astronut | did say it actually |
| 02:18.05 | astronut | but not anymore |
| 02:18.45 | astronut | ah, ownership as well.. |
| 02:18.47 | Azar | blunted: since you are there, look also for Multimedia audio controller and note it down |
| 02:18.51 | astronut | thanks |
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| 02:19.01 | astronut | stew: that was it, much appreciated |
| 02:19.06 | cusco | hello |
| 02:19.26 | rend | ohh. i kinda got something to print from gimp with lpr |
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| 02:19.54 | Serialito | lastima que nadie hable español :P |
| 02:20.10 | Zerial | calla pastel |
| 02:20.12 | Zerial | xD |
| 02:20.12 | kspath | Azar: not always the last line grepping is a good idea |
| 02:20.40 | kspath | Azar: one machine I have 4 VGAs on another I have 2 VGAs |
| 02:20.43 | stew | !es |
| 02:20.43 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:20.45 | Serialito | Zerial wowow you speaking english heh |
| 02:20.45 | Azar | kspath: no I ment he looks in lspci for the last line |
| 02:20.45 | Serialito | :D |
| 02:20.51 | Azar | ah.. wow |
| 02:21.07 | blunted | ok done |
| 02:21.11 | Serialito | stew no thanks , you ask good |
| 02:21.17 | nagura | hi, which is way is better to upgrade the system? running apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade |
| 02:21.20 | Azar | blunted: so tell us: what video card you are using? |
| 02:21.45 | Azar | :D |
| 02:21.53 | Azar | secret? |
| 02:22.01 | kspath | Azar: lspci sorts based on PCI so a VGA can be near the top of a lspci listing |
| 02:22.06 | blunted | Intel corp 82845G/GL Brookdale -G/GE Chipset integrated device |
| 02:22.09 | stew | nagura: the difference is that dist-upgrade is willing to install new pacakges or remove others, upgrade is only willing to upgrade |
| 02:22.15 | Azar | ouch |
| 02:22.30 | Azar | that does not sound like a video card name |
| 02:22.39 | dvs | Azar: It is! |
| 02:22.42 | Azar | bah embedded graphics |
| 02:22.44 | nagura | thanks |
| 02:22.45 | cusco | yes it does |
| 02:22.45 | dvs | Azar: Built in |
| 02:22.51 | blunted | can i edit my config right now to change my mouse because i cant copy paste in terminal .. there is no cursor :| |
| 02:22.57 | Azar | dvs, so I could guess |
| 02:23.14 | kspath | Azar: quite possible it will do up to 1600x1200 24bit but not uber fast |
| 02:23.15 | Azar | blunted: that is ok you will survive |
| 02:23.21 | blunted | hehe ok |
| 02:23.22 | dvs | blunted: apt-get install gpm |
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| 02:23.23 | blunted | :p |
| 02:23.26 | threat | Azar, it kind of does if you turn your head to the side and squint |
| 02:23.40 | Serialito | (K) |
| 02:23.51 | kspath | Azar: VESA is always a fallback |
| 02:23.51 | Azar | ok blunted xserver install: aptitude install x-window-system |
| 02:24.06 | Zerial | with gpm mouse works on console to copy and paste blunted |
| 02:24.14 | Azar | guys I have no idea how he can install a driver for that video thing |
| 02:24.14 | Milk | well.. no one is answereing in PPC... so I'll ask here. I'm having problems getting debian ppc to make my hd bootable and I have no idea where else to look, its saying that OF device name for the root disk could not be determined |
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| 02:24.25 | astronut | how do you make sure tar keeps a directory in it? tar czf foo.tar /path/to/dir1 /path/to/dir2 so the tar is dir1/dir2 (paths are different) |
| 02:24.27 | Azar | ... I was hoping he has nvidia :) |
| 02:24.33 | astronut | err, is "dir1/, dir2/" |
| 02:24.44 | astronut | was i right? |
| 02:25.05 | Azar | kspath: is there any way he get a video there? |
| 02:25.08 | Azar | modconf? |
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| 02:26.45 | close_to_debian | gnome menus are not popping up in unstable |
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| 02:27.17 | kspath | close_to_debian: ion3 and openbox3 can fix that problem fast |
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| 02:27.56 | blunted | hmmm |
| 02:28.07 | blunted | ok i already have one X server installed it says |
| 02:28.14 | kspath | !away |
| 02:28.14 | dpkg | Do not use public away/back messages in #debian. If we want to know where you are, we'll /whois you. In BX, /set auto_away off; ask in #yourircclient if you have questions. If you continue to use public aways/backs you will be devoiced. http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html |
| 02:28.15 | blunted | now its asking me to choose gdm or xdm |
| 02:28.29 | Guerin | blunted: so choose |
| 02:28.48 | Azar | i810 driver < thats for your video |
| 02:28.49 | Serialito | kspath ohohoho oks |
| 02:29.00 | kspath | !es |
| 02:29.01 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:29.01 | Azar | blunted: none |
| 02:29.14 | blunted | its making me choose |
| 02:29.14 | Azar | blunted: you can install kde or gnome later |
| 02:29.32 | nima | close_to_debian: unstable lives up to its name |
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| 02:29.39 | blunted | i just have gdm or xdm option |
| 02:29.48 | Azar | xdm |
| 02:30.01 | Azar | we gonna take it out later |
| 02:30.08 | blunted | ok |
| 02:30.11 | gravity | wtf... why? |
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| 02:30.18 | blunted | ok done |
| 02:30.25 | Azar | gravity: first he needs to fix his X and video |
| 02:30.27 | malenfant | Hello - how do I change the method which apt/dpkg uses to request configuration for packages (right now I have it using qt/kde, but would rather use the curses interface)? |
| 02:30.37 | Azar | then he can chose his desktop if he wishes |
| 02:30.41 | mgoetze | dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 02:30.45 | gravity | Azar: Does he have have the log file up? |
| 02:31.01 | Azar | gravity: he just installed X |
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| 02:31.07 | gravity | blunted: Could you put the /var/log/XFree.0.log in a paster or something? |
| 02:31.09 | gravity | Azar: So? |
| 02:31.14 | gravity | If X is failing, look at the log |
| 02:31.15 | Azar | gravity: I was thinking now about his video driver installation |
| 02:31.37 | close_to_debian | gnome menus are not popping up in unstable |
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| 02:31.49 | Azar | ah there is no driver for that |
| 02:31.53 | Azar | ok |
| 02:31.57 | malenfant | mgoetze: One problem - since the qt frontend isn't working for me (connection refused to X server), is there another way? |
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| 02:32.20 | Azar | blunted: did you finished the x-server installation? |
| 02:32.32 | malenfant | mgoetze: (when I run that, that's what it complains about) |
| 02:32.33 | blunted | yes |
| 02:32.50 | dvs | blunted: Which video driver did you pick? |
| 02:33.04 | blunted | it didnt ask for one |
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| 02:33.11 | carol | hola |
| 02:33.12 | Azar | blunted: just for the sake do a modconf again and look for Video see if i810 is selected for you if not select it |
| 02:33.15 | Zerial | blunted, no? sure? |
| 02:33.15 | malenfant | mgoetze: nevermind, uninstalling libqt-perl fix the problem - thanks for your help! |
| 02:33.26 | blunted | oh yes i810 |
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| 02:33.37 | Azar | blunted: so you have it? |
| 02:33.38 | blunted | modconf command not found |
| 02:33.47 | blunted | less modconf ? |
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| 02:33.52 | Zerial | blunted, as root? |
| 02:33.56 | blunted | yes |
| 02:33.59 | mgoetze | malenfant: oh, ok :) |
| 02:33.59 | Azar | no, modconf is a command |
| 02:34.06 | blunted | didnt work :| |
| 02:34.15 | Azar | strange you are the 2nd I hear has no modconf after kernel upgrade |
| 02:34.26 | Zerial | blunted, apt-get ip |
| 02:34.28 | Zerial | blunted, apt-get it |
| 02:34.36 | Zerial | apt-get install modconf, maybe? |
| 02:34.46 | Azar | sigh , yes, Zerial |
| 02:34.56 | mgoetze | malenfant: i just found via man that you can do 'dpkg-reconfigure --frontend=readline debconf' though, for future reference ;) |
| 02:36.06 | Azar | blunted: if you succeed with modconf after installing it, also look for AGP and select agpgart as well |
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| 02:36.47 | blunted | there is a dialog box on ttyq7 also that says "i will disable this X server for now restart GDM when it is configured corectly" |
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| 02:37.18 | Azar | blunted: nice |
| 02:37.21 | Zerial | blunted, see the log |
| 02:37.24 | Azar | try getting modconf and run it |
| 02:37.28 | dvs | blunted: Check your log |
| 02:37.41 | blunted | how |
| 02:37.51 | blunted | ok i have run modconf |
| 02:37.53 | blunted | im there now |
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| 02:37.55 | Zerial | cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep "(EE)" |
| 02:37.56 | dvs | blunted: grep (EE) /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
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| 02:38.07 | Zerial | oh xfree |
| 02:38.08 | dvs | !catg |
| 02:38.11 | dvs | Bah! |
| 02:38.17 | Azar | blunted: i830 from Video section and agpgart from AGP |
| 02:38.20 | asg | !fix dvs |
| 02:38.26 | dvs | Doh!~ |
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| 02:38.39 | stew | Azar: there is no need to select agpgart if you are selecting a mdoule that depends on it |
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| 02:38.40 | Azar | Zerial there is no xorg there in Sarge |
| 02:38.50 | Zerial | ok |
| 02:39.12 | Zerial | then, cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log |grep "(EE)" |
| 02:39.14 | Azar | stew, ah, ok indeed agpgart was the only for me because "nv" is not in modconf |
| 02:39.27 | dasunt | Why does linux seem to have a problems burning specific brands of CD/DVD-recordable media, and windows doesn't? |
| 02:39.30 | Guerin | nv isn't a standard kernel module |
| 02:39.35 | stew | Azar: nv should depend on agpgart as well |
| 02:39.38 | Guerin | nv is an xfree86 driver module |
| 02:39.40 | dasunt | I'd really like to know. |
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| 02:39.48 | Azar | right, guys |
| 02:40.13 | Guerin | dasunt: more important is your choice of hardware. |
| 02:40.17 | Azar | x-server installation already does the xfree86 configuration? |
| 02:40.20 | blunted | kernel/drivers/video .. in there ? |
| 02:40.33 | Azar | blunted: look for i380 |
| 02:40.36 | dasunt | Guerin: I've seen this with sony drives, I've seen this with LG drives. |
| 02:40.43 | Azar | blunted: yes |
| 02:40.45 | dasunt | I've seen this with Yamaha drives. |
| 02:41.11 | blunted | i cant see it there :| |
| 02:41.13 | relic | !ubuntu |
| 02:41.13 | dpkg | hmm... ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 02:41.15 | dasunt | The sony drive didn't read sony media, which as a wonder joke. |
| 02:41.25 | Azar | hmm ok holdon |
| 02:41.27 | Guerin | dasunt: my samsung burns anything I put in it. |
| 02:41.28 | dasunt | Er, which is a wonderful joke. |
| 02:41.33 | Guerin | dasunt: heh, thaat is funny. |
| 02:41.48 | dasunt | The LG doesn't want to burn Fuji media. |
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| 02:42.07 | dasunt | This is a joke: Should I keep a dedicated windows 98 machine around just for burning? |
| 02:42.23 | Guerin | dasunt: no. Better to use a windows 2000 machine. |
| 02:42.24 | chaotique | no. |
| 02:42.26 | Azar | blu you can see /kernel/drivers/video/i810 ? I can see it |
| 02:42.34 | Azar | err |
| 02:42.36 | Azar | holdon |
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| 02:42.50 | dasunt | Guerin: I'm not paying for a win2k license just to burn DVDs. |
| 02:43.09 | rend | how can i mount a hard drive so than my non root user can access it? |
| 02:43.22 | daos | I get this error when I restart squid: Invalid Proxy Auth ACL 'acl AllowedUsers proxy_auth required' because no authentication schemes are fully configured. can anyone help? |
| 02:43.31 | dvs | rend: Use the mode option |
| 02:43.41 | blunted | yes there is /kernel/drivers/video/i810 |
| 02:43.46 | Guerin | daos: configure squid properly |
| 02:43.49 | daos | all auth schemes are setup via te faq |
| 02:44.00 | daos | Guerin: good suggestion |
| 02:44.18 | Guerin | daos: apparently not,, if they were, squid wouldn't complain. |
| 02:44.44 | asg | daos: #squid is a good start |
| 02:45.02 | daos | Guerin: so I need help, not smartass responses |
| 02:45.06 | blunted | Azar: yes there is /kernel/drivers/video/i810 and when i click it there is i810fb |
| 02:45.22 | asg | daos: smartass responses are a hallmark of #debian |
| 02:45.31 | daos | asg: donee that, still waiting just thought I would ask here |
| 02:45.33 | dvs | asg: No shit! ;-) |
| 02:45.35 | Guerin | daos: the answer is in the question. |
| 02:45.39 | daos | yeah it shits me |
| 02:45.47 | rend | dvs: like # mount -o mode=0777 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows/ |
| 02:45.47 | Azar | blunted: no, yours is i830 |
| 02:45.48 | rend | ? |
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| 02:45.56 | daos | ppl should just not respond if they have no useful info |
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| 02:46.01 | Azar | dvs, maybe VESAfb for him? |
| 02:46.05 | asg | daos: well, O'Reilly's Squid Book covers the tool quite well. That's where I always turn personally. |
| 02:46.16 | dvs | Azar: That's what I would suggest |
| 02:46.21 | dvs | rend: yes |
| 02:46.28 | Guerin | daos: no, really: the answer you seek is in your question. If you had your auth schemes set up correctly, squid wouldn't complain about them. |
| 02:46.39 | daos | asg: cool I will check it out |
| 02:46.43 | rend | dvs: apparently doesnt work for ntfs.. im gonna try uid.. |
| 02:46.44 | blunted | ok i dont see it listed there |
| 02:46.48 | stew | Azar: why do you think that his problems are a missing kernel module? have you seen a log file? have you checked to see if discover has already loaded the module for him? |
| 02:46.51 | blunted | yes VESAfb is there |
| 02:46.52 | dvs | rend: ntfs is read only, always |
| 02:47.05 | dvs | well, most of the time |
| 02:47.06 | Azar | blunted: select it |
| 02:47.07 | asg | daos: and since it's written by Dwane Wessels, it should be authoritative ;) |
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| 02:47.11 | Guerin | daos: what I would do from here is look at log output, figure out what specifically isn't set up right. |
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| 02:47.18 | blunted | and remove it ? |
| 02:47.20 | stew | blunted: what is the problem you are trying to solve? |
| 02:47.26 | dvs | stew: X won't start |
| 02:47.30 | rend | dvs: that kinda sucks. but i still need to be able to read with non root |
| 02:47.31 | Azar | stew, you might be very right, but I never knew myself how to check, only if it did not worked something Id learn to check |
| 02:47.34 | stew | dvs: has anyone seen a log file? |
| 02:47.40 | dvs | stew: Nope |
| 02:47.43 | guru | after running dist-upgrade all fonts became too small on my primary monitor (they look fine on my second monitor which is configured to be to the left of my primary)...does anyone know how i could change this? i've tried editing ~/.gtkrc as well as xfontsel but neither work |
| 02:47.44 | stew | Azar: man lsmod |
| 02:47.49 | Azar | blunted: has a i830 video driver which is not coming with modconf list |
| 02:48.07 | blunted | and remove agpart too ? |
| 02:48.09 | Azar | thanks stew, I will do that myself too to learn :) |
| 02:48.16 | Azar | blunted: do not remove nothing |
| 02:48.18 | dvs | blunted: No! |
| 02:48.20 | blunted | ok |
| 02:48.23 | guru | i have noticed that if i start the Gnome Control Center and double click on "Font" then they are displayed just fine |
| 02:48.23 | rend | cool,, -o uid=1000 worked |
| 02:48.24 | blunted | i didnt |
| 02:48.24 | Azar | just finish that |
| 02:48.25 | blunted | :) |
| 02:48.42 | stew | blunted: you don't need to mess with modconf at all. have you told us what error you get when you try to start x? |
| 02:48.44 | Azar | so you only select vesafb, ok then exit exit out of there |
| 02:49.02 | blunted | ok if i select it .. i click ok then it asks if i want to remove it |
| 02:49.06 | Azar | stew, does he need to configure xfree86 ? |
| 02:49.11 | blunted | ok so exit |
| 02:49.20 | Azar | blunted: say NO, do nt remove it |
| 02:49.44 | stew | Azar: he needs to tell us what the problem is, so that people stop randomly guessing and sending him on wild goose chases |
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| 02:49.55 | Azar | blunted: if it had a + besides it, just leave it like that |
| 02:49.56 | Cyorxamp | Installed UT1999 but on running I get the same issue some other guy (see his post... http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=86617&postcount=5 ) any ideas? |
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| 02:50.07 | shwag | how do I stop the sendmail service from starting at bootup? |
| 02:50.14 | Azar | stew, there is no problem just fresh installed needed X installed that's all |
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| 02:50.33 | stew | Azar: there is no problem? then what are we doing? |
| 02:50.39 | Azar | stew we just helped him with kernel upgrade to 2.6.8 and x-server installation |
| 02:50.54 | Azar | stew, we are about done here |
| 02:51.07 | stew | Azar: so you are trying to make his xserver faster by enabling drm? |
| 02:51.12 | Zerial | shwag, update-rc.d -f sendmail remove |
| 02:51.14 | Azar | blunted: by chance did you run the xfree86 configuration yet? |
| 02:51.31 | Azar | stew, no just flat installation |
| 02:51.53 | shwag | Zerial, whats the -f stand for ? |
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| 02:52.06 | blunted | no i didnt |
| 02:52.14 | stew | blunted: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 02:52.22 | Azar | stew do you think he needs to run a xfree86 config after x-server install? |
| 02:52.34 | Azar | ... before I tell him to do it... |
| 02:52.38 | stew | Azar: no, it is configured when he installs it |
| 02:52.40 | blunted | thats already installed |
| 02:52.46 | blunted | and its the newest version |
| 02:52.48 | stew | blunted: type "startx" |
| 02:53.00 | Zerial | shwag, man update-rc.d |
| 02:53.08 | stew | blunted: if you get an error tell us what it is |
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| 02:53.17 | stew | blunted: "no screens found"? "no core pointer"? |
| 02:53.21 | blunted | ok well its big and i cant use a pastebin right now |
| 02:53.26 | blunted | no screens found |
| 02:53.51 | Azar | stew, I do not think he set up his configurations in X |
| 02:53.57 | dvs | blunted: grep "(EE)" /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 02:53.57 | Azar | otherwise he would ask... |
| 02:54.03 | stew | Azar: you cannot install it without configuring it |
| 02:54.06 | daos | Guerin: if I knew how to config the auth I would not be asking. I realise if it was setup correctly it would work and squid would start |
| 02:54.18 | stew | blunted: that likely means you gave the wrong monitor refresh rates, or you selected the wrong driver |
| 02:54.22 | stew | !drxx blunted |
| 02:54.22 | dpkg | blunted: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:54.33 | blunted | (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. |
| 02:54.33 | blunted | (EE) No devices detected. |
| 02:54.36 | stew | if it was the mouse it wouln't be "no screens found' but "no core pointer" |
| 02:54.40 | dvs | blunted: Next one |
| 02:54.42 | Zerial | (EE) No devices detected |
| 02:54.48 | daos | Guerin: I have checked the logs and all I see is the error I stated |
| 02:55.02 | loafy | how can I "make sure my header files in /usr/include match my libc version installed in /lib and /usr/lib?" |
| 02:55.04 | mgoetze | is there any good reason to use update-rc.d if you're used to doing it by hand instead? |
| 02:55.05 | stew | blunted: which driver did you choose? i810? |
| 02:55.10 | Azar | blunted: you will have two resolutions recommendation: favorite resolution, select 1024x768 then two additional ones pick the next smaller ones |
| 02:55.27 | blunted | i810 yes |
| 02:55.30 | Zerial | or try with vesa |
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| 02:55.48 | shwag | Zerial, can I access that online somewhere? |
| 02:55.54 | Azar | blunted: i830 is yours if you can find it if not go vesa |
| 02:55.55 | blunted | vesafb also was selected i believe |
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| 02:56.09 | Azar | i810 is NOT good for you |
| 02:56.19 | blunted | so remove it ? |
| 02:56.24 | dscener | Anyone know of a debian program that will convert text to speach? |
| 02:56.29 | Azar | yes |
| 02:56.35 | Azar | you need vesafb ONLY |
| 02:56.37 | loafy | dscener: festival |
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| 02:56.43 | astronut | ican i have multiple lines for /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab |
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| 02:56.48 | astronut | meh, i'll just try type=auto |
| 02:57.16 | blunted | oh sorry yes it is only vesafb |
| 02:57.23 | dscener | loafy: thanks |
| 02:57.32 | loafy | no problem |
| 02:57.49 | sifi-xz | Is there some IRC command to connect to a IRC server+channel? |
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| 02:58.00 | mgoetze | shwag: uh, why? normally it's installed on your system... |
| 02:58.02 | blunted | should i do this ... |
| 02:58.03 | blunted | blunted: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or |
| 02:58.03 | blunted | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:58.03 | blunted | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:58.03 | blunted | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:58.05 | astronut | sifi-xz: client dependent behavior |
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| 02:58.13 | sifi-xz | astronut, ok |
| 02:58.22 | stew | blunted: did you enter a busid? |
| 02:58.27 | blunted | woops sorry |
| 02:58.28 | Zerial | sifi-xz, auto-join? |
| 02:58.59 | stew | Azar: you know for sure that X's i810 driver doesn't support his chipset? |
| 02:59.02 | sifi-xz | Zerial, no, the point is to use it in a contactinfo on a site |
| 02:59.18 | loafy | sorry to repeat myself, but does anyone know how i can tell if my header files in /usr/include match my libc version in /lib and /usr/lib... trying to make a modification to netkit-ping but it won't compile and the README tells me to check that... |
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| 02:59.31 | pipeline | Azar, blunted : The i810 driver covers the i830 chipset. |
| 02:59.47 | shwag | mgoetze, not booted into this second |
| 02:59.47 | stew | gravity: (EE) No devices detected. |
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| 03:00.01 | pipeline | Azar, blunted : However, he probably wants to disable DRI, as it does not work well with power management (and I think all i830s are mobile...) |
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| 03:00.37 | mgoetze | shwag: well, you won't need to know before you are ;) |
| 03:00.50 | Azar | stew, I just googled and found some comments on his video integrated chip |
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| 03:01.07 | stew | Azar: me too and its supported by i810 |
| 03:01.08 | gravity | stew: There's more in the log than what's marked EE |
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| 03:01.13 | ballistic | I'm putting together a Debian MythTV box w/ a RAID 5. I'm having issues during the install process. It's getting to the mkinitrd stage during the kernel install, and then it seems to just hang. Nothing in messages or syslog. I can kill mkinitrd, blow away /target, and start again, but it hangs again at that same spot (mkinitrd). |
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| 03:01.14 | Azar | stew, you are RIGHT |
| 03:01.26 | mgoetze | shwag: actually, you don't need to know at all, but if you are really curious about how it works you should look in /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc |
| 03:01.35 | Azar | 2.6 kernel supports his with i810 |
| 03:01.44 | ahmed | Hey guys |
| 03:01.48 | blunted | so enable i810 and remove vesafb ? |
| 03:02.01 | ahmed | I am having trouble with 9.3 SuSe Linux |
| 03:02.03 | gravity | kernel? |
| 03:02.19 | dvs | ahmed: Why are you here!?! |
| 03:02.20 | Azar | blunted: go with what stew recommends |
| 03:02.30 | blunted | stew what do you recommend? |
| 03:02.32 | mgoetze | btw, anyone know of an apt source with newer gnumeric packages that work on sarge? |
| 03:02.38 | ahmed | needing help |
| 03:02.40 | stew | blunted: i recommend you put a log file somewhere we can see it |
| 03:02.46 | dvs | *plonk* |
| 03:02.46 | ahmed | witg my SuSe Linux laptop |
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| 03:03.02 | stew | blunted: pipeline recommends you disable DRI, i recommmend you make sure you didn't specify a busid |
| 03:03.06 | Azar | stew, he does not have a browser, only #flood channel will help |
| 03:03.13 | blunted | i will glady do that but i dont know how ;/ |
| 03:03.43 | Azar | blunted: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 gives you power to enable/disable modules, DRI is a module |
| 03:03.59 | mgoetze | Azar: how do you know he doesn't have a browser? |
| 03:04.07 | pipeline | blunted: you run "dpkg-reconfigure" on your x server package. Then you just make sure the point at which it asks for a bus ID, the form input is blank :P |
| 03:04.12 | Azar | mgoetze: because he just installed with no X |
| 03:04.18 | blunted | he has been helping me for the past hour thats how |
| 03:04.20 | blunted | heh |
| 03:04.26 | ahmed | When it comes to displaying a login screen, it displays it but with a grey color with an error messange on the side in the corner saying |
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| 03:04.52 | mgoetze | Azar: ever heard of w3m, links, lynx, telnet...? |
| 03:04.55 | Azar | stew busid? in xfree86 config? |
| 03:05.01 | Azar | mgoetze: just let us finish here.. |
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| 03:05.13 | blunted | ooooh i have nv selected as my X server driver |
| 03:05.17 | blunted | aha! |
| 03:05.18 | Feldon | anyone know if mozilla-plugin-vlc works in Konqueror? |
| 03:05.20 | Azar | ok |
| 03:05.30 | blunted | so select i810 ? |
| 03:05.33 | dvs | blunted: Wrong! ;-) |
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| 03:05.36 | Azar | blunted: stew said yes |
| 03:05.37 | ballistic | mkinitrd is going zombie |
| 03:05.45 | ahmed | could not start kdeinit . check your installation |
| 03:05.46 | stew | i'm so done with this |
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| 03:05.51 | Azar | :) |
| 03:05.55 | ballistic | I think the Debian install script just keeps re-running it...? |
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| 03:06.09 | Azar | stew, you are just leaving us, I notice.. |
| 03:06.12 | Azar | sad |
| 03:06.16 | blunted | heh |
| 03:06.18 | shwag | mgoetze, just fill me in quick though...whats -f ? |
| 03:06.30 | IdahoEv | is anyone familiar with the php4-cli package? |
| 03:06.32 | ballistic | Yeah, the process ID for mkinitrd keeps changing |
| 03:06.35 | Azar | that is called fornication |
| 03:06.36 | stew | shwag: have you read the manpage? |
| 03:06.45 | shwag | stew i dont have access to it right now |
| 03:06.55 | mgoetze | shwag: "Force removal of symlinks even if /etc/init.d/name still exists." |
| 03:07.04 | stew | shwag: "man update-rc.d" will give you access to it |
| 03:07.05 | blunted | my brain is melting |
| 03:07.11 | blunted | i810 ? |
| 03:07.19 | blunted | i know i have just asked this :/ |
| 03:07.20 | Azar | blunted: check the i810 yes |
| 03:07.20 | ballistic | Okay, so why is it failing? Is mkinit's stdout/stderr piped somewhere interesting by the Debian installer? |
| 03:07.27 | stew | shwag: googleing "man update-rc.d" will also get you access to it |
| 03:07.33 | dvs | blunted: Yes, yes, yes |
| 03:07.33 | stew | shwag: are you running debian? |
| 03:07.36 | Azar | blunted: and pay attention to resolution picking |
| 03:07.37 | blunted | ok |
| 03:07.59 | myren | wow, its taken over six hours to run 450 megs of distupgrades through apt-get |
| 03:08.00 | ahmed | I am running SuSe |
| 03:08.02 | ahmed | 9.3 |
| 03:08.05 | myren | i wish i'd timed this crap |
| 03:08.17 | myren | as in `time apt-get` |
| 03:08.58 | Azar | Okay, so I upgraded to a 2.6 kernel + udev and tried again with i810. It= |
| 03:08.58 | Azar | =20 |
| 03:09.02 | Azar | > worked |
| 03:09.10 | Azar | from a bug report |
| 03:09.20 | gravity | Kernel version shouldn't affect i810's ability to run |
| 03:09.22 | blunted | identifier for video card .. this is what lspci | grep VGA shows 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) |
| 03:09.26 | gravity | That only affects whether you get DRI |
| 03:09.42 | odla | blunted: intel 845 |
| 03:09.44 | blunted | do i enter all of that minus the 0000's at the beginning |
| 03:09.46 | ahmed | Hay guys anyone to help? |
| 03:09.47 | odla | i have the same chipset |
| 03:09.47 | myren | the DRI drivers can seriously impact whether a device initializes properly. |
| 03:09.48 | blunted | ok |
| 03:09.54 | Azar | blunted: what odla said |
| 03:09.59 | gravity | blunted: Don't enter anything. Use the default |
| 03:09.59 | Azar | busid just ignore |
| 03:10.00 | dvs | blunted: Leave the PCI ID blank |
| 03:10.03 | EdLin | ahmed: #suse or ##linux or #linuxhelp - not here |
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| 03:10.28 | ahmed | cool thanks |
| 03:10.47 | bbyron | whats a good irc for linux noobs? |
| 03:10.56 | EdLin | bbyron: irssi |
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| 03:10.58 | ballistic | Has anyone ever installed Debian on a 800+GB LVM partition? |
| 03:11.10 | odla | !best irc client |
| 03:11.10 | dpkg | methinks irssi-text is probably the best IRC client |
| 03:11.10 | TBBle | ballistic: It seems very very likely. |
| 03:11.23 | ballistic | TBBle: Someone who is here :-) |
| 03:11.24 | blunted | am i using xfree86 rule set |
| 03:11.30 | Azar | blunted: yes |
| 03:11.38 | bbyron | i mean channel... |
| 03:11.41 | odla | is blunted setting up X? |
| 03:11.46 | Azar | blunted: also read the instructions too |
| 03:11.58 | Azar | odla, newbie, fresh Debian install, installing X now |
| 03:12.04 | odla | i see |
| 03:12.06 | TBBle | ballistic: Ah. You probably need to be more specific in your questions... In fact, starting with the problem you're facing rather than hoping for experts. |
| 03:12.20 | odla | blunted: i have the same chipset setting up X is easy |
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| 03:12.26 | mgoetze | ballistic: why would you want to install on only one partition if you have that much space? |
| 03:12.35 | dvs | odla: Then tell him what video module to use |
| 03:12.42 | odla | i810 |
| 03:12.46 | odla | is what i use |
| 03:12.51 | stew | have we really not covered that yet? |
| 03:12.55 | ballistic | TBBle: Here it is again: I'm putting together a Debian MythTV box w/ a RAID 5. I'm having issues during the install process. It's getting to the mkinitrd stage during the kernel install, and then it seems to just hang. Nothing in messages or syslog. I can kill mkinitrd, blow away /target, and start again, but it hangs again at that same spot (mkinitrd). |
| 03:12.57 | odla | it selects vesa by default |
| 03:12.57 | Azar | :) we were just waiting for you, odla |
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| 03:13.04 | bbyron | is it supposed to take forever to do a 'make' when trying to install program? |
| 03:13.13 | Phated | Depends. |
| 03:13.19 | EdLin | !wayc bbyron |
| 03:13.19 | dpkg | bbyron: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 03:13.25 | bbyron | quanta, php editor...? |
| 03:13.34 | ballistic | mgoetze: I don't want to worry about managing the partitions. |
| 03:13.35 | bbyron | no clue <-----noob |
| 03:13.37 | Azar | stew, at my first Debian installation 3 years ago I was shaking and sweating |
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| 03:14.03 | Azar | hard to assimilate so much stuff at once |
| 03:14.05 | mgoetze | fwiw i didn't have any problems whatsoever installing debian on an 800gb hardware raid 5 |
| 03:14.06 | EdLin | bbyron: apt-get gives you access to 15,000 programs. Chances are you don't need to compile anything. |
| 03:14.13 | stew | bbyron: apt-get install quanta |
| 03:14.22 | bbyron | lol, that would be sweet as hell |
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| 03:14.36 | bbyron | what does it do exactly? |
| 03:14.38 | EdLin | bbyron: the whole point of Debian is it'ss large amounts of programs available for instant installation. |
| 03:14.39 | odla | dvs: what do you think about the election? |
| 03:14.42 | loafy | anyonw know how i can check whether my header files in /usr/include 'match' my libc version installed in /lib and /usr/lib--per instructions in README in the netkit source package? |
| 03:14.49 | odla | dvs: not really a surprise |
| 03:14.50 | dvs | odla: Just the way I wanted |
| 03:14.55 | ballistic | I'm suspecting borked hardware. I just picked up the IDE controllers from Fry's (open box specials ;-). |
| 03:15.09 | odla | dvs: a change of face but not a conservative majority? |
| 03:15.12 | Azar | what elections odla? |
| 03:15.16 | bbyron | where can I get a list of programs in apt-get? |
| 03:15.20 | dvs | odla: yup |
| 03:15.28 | blunted | so should i disable DRI definitely ? |
| 03:15.35 | mgoetze | loafy: dpkg -l libc6, dpkg -l libc6-dev |
| 03:15.39 | close_to_debian | gnome menus are not popping up in unstable |
| 03:15.39 | Phated | bbyron: packages.debian.org, or apt-cache search |
| 03:15.43 | ballistic | Although I'm having no problem at all w/ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/target/rand.dat bs=4k count=100000 |
| 03:15.50 | stew | loafy: unless you have being doing something goofy like installing random headers/libs from source into /usr instead of /usr/local/ they match |
| 03:15.51 | gravity | blunted: Don't worry about DRI right now. |
| 03:15.57 | blunted | so click yes ? |
| 03:15.57 | mgoetze | bbyron: try aptitude |
| 03:15.58 | dvs | blunted: No, the main problem was that nv was selected |
| 03:16.03 | blunted | ok cool |
| 03:16.10 | blunted | so im clickin yes |
| 03:16.16 | loafy | stew/mgoetz: they do match, apparently... thanks, so why might this make be failing? |
| 03:16.21 | Azar | blunted: did you set the resolutions yet? |
| 03:16.25 | bbyron | and, exactly how does it work...again...<---noob |
| 03:16.25 | stew | loafy: what are you compiling? |
| 03:16.27 | odla | blunted: direct all X question to gravity, the guru of X |
| 03:16.31 | loafy | netkit-ping |
| 03:16.33 | blunted | Azar yes |
| 03:16.39 | blunted | ok so im done with that part now |
| 03:16.45 | blunted | gravity :) |
| 03:16.47 | stew | !wayc loafy |
| 03:16.47 | dpkg | loafy: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 03:16.51 | blunted | Azar :) |
| 03:16.53 | dvs | blunted: "startx" |
| 03:16.56 | blunted | dvs :) |
| 03:16.58 | blunted | ok |
| 03:17.07 | loafy | dpkg: i added some functionality |
| 03:17.09 | gravity | odla: Hey, you're the guy with the chipset. I just hang around a bit |
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| 03:17.38 | odla | gravity: but your the reason i'm running X now with an irc client and not bitchx ;) |
| 03:17.41 | odla | you're |
| 03:17.46 | EdLin | loafy: then use apt-get source, patch it, then compile it |
| 03:17.48 | gravity | hehe |
| 03:17.51 | stew | loafy: did you start with the debian sources? have you run apt-get build-dep netkit-ping? |
| 03:18.06 | loafy | stew: i rean apt-get source netkit-ping |
| 03:18.17 | loafy | but ill run build-dep right now |
| 03:18.18 | bbyron | well, thanks....I will stop buggin yah now |
| 03:18.21 | gravity | I just build the thing. I don't hack on the server or drivers yet |
| 03:18.22 | EdLin | loafy: he's right, you do need build-dep |
| 03:18.34 | dumpling | are there any tools used to build or creat x-cursor themes? |
| 03:18.46 | stew | loafy: /msg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 03:18.56 | odla | well without X we'd all be in the 80's still |
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| 03:18.57 | Azar | gravity, odla, I told blunted to hold on kdm or gnome until the thing is solved... personally dunno, I am only running openbox flat |
| 03:19.12 | gravity | Azar: It shouldn't really matter... |
| 03:19.24 | mgoetze | odla: uhm, i thought X is from the 80s? |
| 03:19.31 | mgoetze | odla: or was it the 70s.... |
| 03:19.34 | odla | mgoetze: i don't know |
| 03:19.38 | gravity | He just needs to get his config right. Having a dm sit there and try and run first won't make a difference |
| 03:19.40 | odla | i just made that up |
| 03:19.43 | odla | ha ha |
| 03:19.43 | Azar | gravity: after X issue is solved, he will want a browser... so I have no idea about kde or gnome thing |
| 03:19.55 | Azar | hahaha odla |
| 03:19.59 | EdLin | mgoetze: 80s |
| 03:20.00 | loafy | sorry stew: don't understand your last comment... you want me to /msg you something? :P |
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| 03:20.11 | gravity | Azar: Well, kdm or gdm doesn't mean you have to run kde or gnome. It's just a login manager. |
| 03:20.11 | stew | !tell loafy about source |
| 03:20.29 | gravity | Azar: It can log in to openbox or something just as easily as kde or gnome |
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| 03:20.38 | gravity | Or no wm, if you want |
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| 03:20.44 | Azar | gravity: I see, hmm I login in terminal, no *dm here |
| 03:21.03 | loafy | ah thnx... i get it now, sorry. |
| 03:21.12 | blunted | woot |
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| 03:21.16 | blunted | ok so it started |
| 03:21.19 | blunted | but with an error |
| 03:21.24 | littleball | hello, any GUI tools to config the iptables? |
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| 03:21.28 | Azar | blunted: show it off |
| 03:21.29 | gravity | blunted: What's the error? |
| 03:21.34 | blunted | one sec |
| 03:22.00 | mgoetze | littleball: apt-cache search iptables |
| 03:22.11 | blunted | www.pastebin.com/521770 |
| 03:22.20 | close_to_debian | gnome menus are not popping up in unstable |
| 03:22.36 | ballistic | mkinitrd has been running for 15 minutes now. |
| 03:22.43 | Azar | sorry I got to go for a while, good luck blunted |
| 03:22.47 | gravity | Holy fucking shit. What the hell is that? |
| 03:22.53 | gravity | blunted: How did you install X? |
| 03:22.55 | odla | blunted: ha ha |
| 03:23.02 | odla | oops |
| 03:23.06 | odla | i didn't mean blunted ha ha |
| 03:23.13 | odla | i meant...ha ha gravity's comment |
| 03:23.35 | gravity | I've never even *seen* that error before |
| 03:23.53 | loafy | stew: so i shouldn't just run make for the source package? |
| 03:24.28 | stew | loafy: no, use dpkg-buildpackge, it will create a .deb that you install via dpkg |
| 03:24.29 | ballistic | That's it; I'm going primeval on my kernel. |
| 03:24.46 | stew | ballistic: what kernel version? |
| 03:25.09 | loafy | stew: what's the 'fakeroot' for... or should i just go read something? |
| 03:25.31 | ballistic | stew: 2.6.8-2 (what ships w/ the Debian installer) |
| 03:25.31 | blunted | gravity i installed X in a very long drawn out process that took about 2 hours |
| 03:25.32 | blunted | heh |
| 03:25.36 | gravity | blunted: How? |
| 03:25.37 | odla | whoa |
| 03:25.43 | gravity | blunted: How did you get the packages? |
| 03:25.44 | stew | loafy: fakeroot lets you do stuff like create .tar.gz's that contain files owned by root even if you aren't root |
| 03:25.45 | mgoetze | loafy: apt-cache show fakeroot |
| 03:25.59 | ballistic | Okay, so running mkinitrd manually informs me that "Finding volume group "VolGroup00"" is happening. |
| 03:26.24 | devicenull | Is there a way to let someone logon to use a ssh tunnel, but not actually be on the system? |
| 03:26.27 | ballistic | So the Debian installer is running mkinitrd, which is in turn trying to figure out something about my VolGroup00, and that's taking forever. |
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| 03:26.50 | blunted | gravity i rebooted since then so i dont have the logs of the commands that were used but Azar helped me alot, he may remember |
| 03:26.53 | blunted | :| |
| 03:26.55 | ballistic | Bah. Who needs LVM anyway? |
| 03:26.58 | gravity | hrmpf |
| 03:27.04 | gravity | blunted: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 03:27.09 | gravity | Let's make sure you have everything |
| 03:27.09 | mgoetze | ballistic: noone, imho |
| 03:27.10 | stew | gravity: azar told hime to atpg-et isntall x-window-system |
| 03:27.15 | gravity | argh |
| 03:27.27 | loafy | stew: dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory |
| 03:27.29 | stew | gravity: i've told him ...-core and he said "latest version" |
| 03:27.39 | Azar | aptitude install x-window-system more precisely |
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| 03:27.42 | stew | loafy: are you in the netkit-ping source directory? |
| 03:27.48 | loafy | yes |
| 03:28.10 | gravity | Hrm... I'm wondering if a massive purge and reinstall of X is better than fixing this. Either he jacked up his xkb data somehow or he jacked up his XF86Config-4 somehow... |
| 03:28.15 | mgoetze | devicenull: well, you could just put some do nothing program in /etc/shells and make that their login shell |
| 03:28.18 | gravity | Or some package is missing |
| 03:28.19 | intrr | hi... maybe someone can help. since I upgraded my kernel from 2.4.18 to 2.6.11-1-k7, I get regular crashes in all applications that use pthreads. all crashes always occur in pthread* symbols. does anyone have any idea how to fix this? |
| 03:28.24 | ballistic | BTW, what are the chances that my filesystem will find its way into Debian? (http://ecryptfs.sf.net) |
| 03:28.27 | blunted | yes i would like to purge and start over |
| 03:28.28 | gravity | (which would be xlibs and xlibs-data) |
| 03:28.28 | blunted | heh |
| 03:28.44 | gravity | blunted: Ok, start purging the X-related packages using aptitude |
| 03:28.51 | devicenull | But I assume they would have to be logged in to actually use the tunnel? |
| 03:28.52 | stew | loafy: if you are in the netkit-ping directory that was created by apt-get source netkit-ping, then the debian/changelog file must be there unless you removed it |
| 03:28.55 | gravity | The interactive mode is probably easier to do this |
| 03:29.16 | mgoetze | ballistic: well, it depends... e.g. are you willing to become a debian maintainer and package it yourself? |
| 03:29.24 | ballistic | mgoetze: Yeah. |
| 03:29.36 | ballistic | mgoetze: But does Debian ship stand-alone kernel modules? |
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| 03:30.00 | mgoetze | ballistic: are they free software? :) |
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| 03:30.00 | blunted | ok just as a side note .. should i be using Xorg instead of Xfree86 ? |
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| 03:30.06 | gravity | blunted: For what it's worth, this should not be a long and drawn out process |
| 03:30.11 | gravity | blunted: No, that error won't be solved by Xorg |
| 03:30.11 | ballistic | mgoatze: Of course! 100% GPL. |
| 03:30.12 | dvs | blunted: Don't worry about it |
| 03:30.30 | ballistic | mgoatze: Some distro's have issues shipping kernel components that aren't in mainline. |
| 03:31.10 | mgoetze | ballistic: i've seen quite a few kernel module packages, so i assume there aren't any problems |
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| 03:31.25 | loafy | stew: after i apt-get source netkit-ping do i just tar zxvf the archive or is there some special debian-related way to untar things |
| 03:31.35 | devicenull | I dont actually need exim4 enabled, do I? |
| 03:31.43 | loafy | because debian/changelog certainly isn't in the untarred archive |
| 03:31.53 | loafy | unless im losing my mind (which is possible) |
| 03:32.12 | mgoetze | devicenull: well, do you want to send email to anyone? |
| 03:32.17 | stew | loafy: apt-get source netkit-ping will automatically run "dpkg-source -x netkit-ping-$version.dsc" which will create a netkit-ping-$version directory with debian patches |
| 03:32.20 | devicenull | not from that machine. |
| 03:32.23 | TBBle | ff |
| 03:32.41 | loafy | wait... stew: could make clean have rm'd the changelog? |
| 03:32.44 | mgoetze | devicenull: do you want the machine to send you email when something goes wrong, e.g. in a cron job? |
| 03:32.47 | stew | loafy: no |
| 03:33.08 | devicenull | Its not exactly needed.. |
| 03:33.11 | loafy | stew: ok let me try again, 1sec. |
| 03:33.21 | devicenull | because its been doing that and I just delete the emails without reading them |
| 03:33.22 | mgoetze | devicenull: well then no, i guess you don't |
| 03:33.40 | ballistic | I'm going to open a BugZilla on this mkinitrd problem though, if you think it's warranted... |
| 03:34.02 | mgoetze | devicenull: you could also just point the emails for root to /dev/null in /etc/aliases |
| 03:34.06 | loafy | stew: did what you said, got the same error i was getting before |
| 03:34.26 | mgoetze | devicenull: personally i would recommend fixing whatever causes it to send you email, though |
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| 03:35.02 | stew | loafy: you are telling me that apt-get source packagename created a source directory that didn't contain debian/changelog?!? i have a hard time believing that |
| 03:35.05 | devicenull | well |
| 03:35.14 | devicenull | I'll re-enable mail and see what it sends |
| 03:35.17 | stew | loafy: did you get any errors running apt-get source? |
| 03:35.31 | loafy | stew: no, sorry. the changelog is there, i ran dpkg-buildpackage and i got the same error from make i was running before |
| 03:35.48 | loafy | stew: but you were right about debian/changelog, it showed up when i did apt-get source again, dont know where it went before |
| 03:36.16 | stew | loafy: you never told us what the errors were |
| 03:36.24 | stew | loafy: put the build log in a pastebin maybe |
| 03:36.52 | loafy | ill toss it on my webserver if that's ok? |
| 03:37.16 | blunted | ok i do believe i am ready |
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| 03:38.03 | odla | blunted: what kind of computer do you have? |
| 03:38.06 | mgoetze | loafy: sure |
| 03:38.35 | blunted | a Dell piece of crap ;/ Intel everything and 500 bad blocks on my hd |
| 03:38.39 | loafy | stew / mgoetze : http://lead.tovdc.com/netkit-ping.log |
| 03:38.53 | odla | blunted: i have a dell inspiron 1100 laptop |
| 03:39.13 | odla | blunted: most of my junk is intel too |
| 03:39.24 | blunted | i have a Dimension desktop |
| 03:39.30 | blunted | cant recall the series number |
| 03:39.41 | mgoetze | hm i just got a nice shiny new dell poweredge server at work |
| 03:39.59 | ballistic | I just built a RAID 5 Debian MythTV box w/ a $32 mainboard and crammed the PCI bus full of video processing cards. I hope I won't be regretting that. :-) |
| 03:40.02 | mgoetze | 8x 146gb ultra320 scsi doesn't really count as "crap", though |
| 03:40.50 | blunted | apt-get install x-window-system-core is this what i need to start with ? |
| 03:40.55 | stew | loafy: what version does "dpkg -l libc6-dev" report? |
| 03:40.57 | odla | blunted: yes |
| 03:41.18 | loafy | ii libc6-dev 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header |
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| 03:41.44 | JMTeal | anyone recommend an ftpd? |
| 03:41.59 | mgoetze | proftpd |
| 03:42.06 | karsten | JMTeal: Generall pro or wu is what I hear. |
| 03:42.21 | karsten | JMTeal: s/general/generally/. FTP auth is strongly discouraged. |
| 03:42.47 | JMTeal | whatcha mean? |
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| 03:43.14 | stew | loafy: what version of netkit-ping are you trying to compile? |
| 03:43.14 | mgoetze | loafy: have you down anything to your gcc? (just checking) |
| 03:43.53 | loafy | stew: i just did apt-get source netkit-ping and it gave me netkit-base-0.10 |
| 03:44.11 | Wowbagger_ | I'm trying to get my touchpad working (tap, tap to drag, scrolling...) but can't get it to work. This is on a new Toshiba laptop. I've installed xfree86-driver-synaptics and modified the xorg.conf file (removed the regular ps/2 mouse and replaced it with the synaptics setting). The mouse works, but I can't tap. |
| 03:44.24 | blunted | i picked for it to attempt auto detect hardware |
| 03:44.24 | loafy | mgoetze: don't think so... gcc -v gives me gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13) |
| 03:44.26 | Wowbagger_ | Any ideas? |
| 03:44.28 | JMTeal | karsten: meaning i should not allow ftp access? |
| 03:44.35 | diesel | What solutions are there to have anonymous bittorrent? |
| 03:44.43 | blunted | so do i need to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 03:44.48 | ballistic | diesel: Tor |
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| 03:44.53 | gravity | blunted: Not if it works for you |
| 03:45.04 | mgoetze | loafy: well, the problem seems to be " ping.c:557: error: `CLK_TCK' undeclared (first use in this function)" - that doesn't happen to be the part you modified? |
| 03:45.05 | blunted | ok so should i try startx now ? |
| 03:45.07 | gravity | Yes |
| 03:45.10 | skon | Is there a way to bind a keyboard shortcut to a custom command or program? |
| 03:45.27 | diesel | ballistic: The tor network is stable enough and can support the bandwidth? |
| 03:45.38 | ballistic | diesel: Not really |
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| 03:45.43 | loafy | mgoetze: nope, and i get the same error when i try to compile the unmodified ping.c |
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| 03:45.55 | blunted | same error |
| 03:45.58 | diesel | ballistic: I didn't think that the tor network could handle that |
| 03:46.06 | loafy | mgoetze: i only changed about 6 lines, just adding variance to the avg/min/max :/ |
| 03:46.07 | stew | loafy: can you tell me what the first version listed in debian/changelog is? |
| 03:46.17 | gravity | blunted: You didn't purge, did you? You just removed? |
| 03:46.36 | loafy | stew: first as in most recent or the oldest? |
| 03:46.45 | blunted | i guess not.. i dont really know exactly what im doing here .. i have an idea.. but not exactly :| |
| 03:46.51 | ballistic | diesel: It depends on what kind of bandwidth you need. If you need anonymity and some degree of performance, FreeNet is just about the best that's out there right now. |
| 03:46.51 | stew | loafy: most recent, the first listed in the file |
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| 03:47.02 | loafy | stew: netkit-base (0.10-10) unstable; urgency=high |
| 03:47.07 | diesel | ballistic: freenet? |
| 03:47.36 | JMTeal | i want to set up an ftp server... easily... i want to be able to set up ftp logins without creating users with useradd... anyone have ftpd exp? |
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| 03:47.55 | ballistic | diesel: http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:48.22 | gravity | blunted: Ok... here's what you're going to do... |
| 03:48.28 | gravity | blunted: Open up aptitude by running "aptitude" |
| 03:48.33 | blunted | ok |
| 03:48.35 | chakatz | JMTeal: anonymous ftp is okay because there are no passwords to harvest. Authenticating ftp is a security nightmare. It's very easy to see the passwords which are sent in clear text |
| 03:48.46 | gravity | blunted: Use the '/' key to start a search. Type in 'xserver-xfree86' |
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| 03:49.08 | blunted | yep |
| 03:49.23 | JMTeal | chakatz but i dont have anything on my deb box that's worth anything... it strictly exists for file sharing. |
| 03:49.31 | skon | use scp |
| 03:49.39 | gravity | blunted: Hit "_" while it's selected. That'll mark it to be purged. Note that's different than '-', which will mark it to be removed |
| 03:49.45 | gravity | blunted: Purging will remove the config files |
| 03:50.05 | blunted | ok |
| 03:50.10 | JMTeal | chakatz: all i want to do is put my mp3s etc on it and have it available for others... but only others i specify |
| 03:50.11 | blunted | done that |
| 03:50.19 | gravity | blunted: Ok, do the same thing for xlibs |
| 03:50.25 | gravity | blunted: And the same thing for xlibs-data |
| 03:50.37 | diesel | ballistic: freenet sounds like a cool project. |
| 03:50.38 | liable | JMTeal: just because you think its not worth anything, doesnt stop it being turned into a zombie to attack others.. |
| 03:50.41 | blunted | do i hit enter after _ or just leave it |
| 03:50.54 | gravity | blunted: Just leave it. It should become purple or something. |
| 03:50.59 | blunted | yah it is |
| 03:51.01 | blunted | ok |
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| 03:51.07 | JMTeal | liable: and anonymous ftp is safer? |
| 03:51.09 | blunted | so start a new seach for the others |
| 03:51.10 | blunted | ok |
| 03:51.23 | gravity | blunted: Ok, those are the ones off the top of my head that matter. Let me look quickly for others... |
| 03:51.28 | chakatz | JMTeal: It's not just your data/files that you have to protect. Once your security is compromised, the infiltrator can do nasty things to other machines and you get the blame. |
| 03:51.31 | blunted | ok thank you |
| 03:51.52 | loafy | stew: ok, well my gf is yelling at me to get off the computer so i better go... :/ thanks for the help ill try some more later |
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| 03:52.07 | JMTeal | chakatz: ok well i only have 20 - 22 going to that machine... ? |
| 03:52.19 | blunted | i dont have an xlibs only an xlibs-static-dev ? |
| 03:52.20 | mgoetze | JMTeal: in any case, make sure the passwords used are totally unimportant... |
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| 03:52.27 | stew | loafy: it builds for me fine with the same libc6-dev, but i can't actually figure out where its getting the definition for CLK_TCK |
| 03:52.40 | JMTeal | the real deal is that i have like 35GB of music i wanna share (illegally) so i'd like the ftp to not be anon... |
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| 03:53.02 | JMTeal | i dont want it to be available to just anyone. |
| 03:53.05 | blunted | i found the xlibs-data ok |
| 03:53.16 | loafy | stew: well you've helped me narrow it down... ill try to figure out where CLK_TCK comes from, seems suspiciously like CLOCK TICK, maybe in a time header for the kernel source or something |
| 03:53.17 | mgoetze | JMTeal: anyway, proftp supports PAM, so if you know your way around that, it will be completely trivial, yes :) |
| 03:53.27 | loafy | stew: in any case i gotta run, thanks again. |
| 03:53.28 | gravity | blunted: Er... yeah, get rid of xlibs-static-dev |
| 03:53.33 | gravity | Why you have that, I have no idea |
| 03:53.52 | blunted | ok |
| 03:53.55 | mgoetze | loafy: try talking to 'aj' here on irc, he's the maintainer |
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| 03:54.05 | gravity | blunted: Oh, and xserver-common |
| 03:54.05 | JMTeal | so i should use proftpd? |
| 03:54.23 | ballistic | Is there a static kernel image .deb? |
| 03:54.27 | JMTeal | is it diff to set up? |
| 03:54.30 | chakatz | JMTeal: If you must have passwords assign a shell like /dev/null to the users and put them in a totaly resticted group. You could even set up a "jail" for them. |
| 03:54.36 | ballistic | i.e., no initrd |
| 03:54.49 | JMTeal | just started learning unix/linux |
| 03:54.49 | stew | ballistic: no, you would have to compile it yourserl |
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| 03:54.58 | JMTeal | that soulds a little high tech for me |
| 03:55.03 | JMTeal | love to learn though |
| 03:55.04 | gravity | blunted: Ok, that should do it I think. xfree86-common may be worth purging as well... |
| 03:55.04 | karsten | JMTeal: FTP is a perfectly servicable protocol. Authenticating over FTP though leaves you and your users vulnerable to snooped passwords and the like. |
| 03:55.07 | JMTeal | know any good books? |
| 03:55.07 | gravity | But I doubt it |
| 03:55.07 | chakatz | JMTeal: proftpd is good. Easier to set up than wu |
| 03:55.08 | blunted | ok yep |
| 03:55.21 | blunted | so what to do to make it purge |
| 03:55.22 | karsten | JMTeal: If you want to support *downloads*, just use HTML IMO. |
| 03:55.38 | karsten | JMTeal: ... if you want to allow uploads, require scp, or similar. |
| 03:55.53 | loafy | mgoetze: thanks, ill talk to aj. stew and mgoetx: thanks again, later. |
| 03:55.55 | JMTeal | i'd like to allow upload too... but if not... use apache? |
| 03:55.57 | gravity | blunted: Hit "g". It'll tell you you need to enter your root password. Do that and then it'll show you what it's going to do. |
| 03:55.59 | karsten | JMTeal: Anonymous uploads are trouble, and FTP authenticated uploads are different trouble. |
| 03:56.04 | gravity | blunted: Look through the list and make sure it's doing what you expect |
| 03:56.20 | karsten | JMTeal: WebDAV also allows uploads. Not as CLI-transparent for advanced users though. |
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| 03:56.28 | JMTeal | whoa... i need a big fat unix/linux/networking book. |
| 03:56.48 | JMTeal | you guys are referring to things i should know but i dont. |
| 03:57.03 | JMTeal | any suggested reading? |
| 03:57.08 | mgoetze | no, i don't think anyone should know about WebDAV, actually... ;) |
| 03:57.12 | chakatz | JMTeal: I agree, http is fine for downloads and has better authentication than ftp with no need for user accounts. |
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| 03:57.28 | JMTeal | ok i like the sound of that... |
| 03:57.38 | JMTeal | apache or is there a simpler httpd |
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| 03:57.44 | mgoetze | ftp doesn't actually require user accounts.... |
| 03:58.03 | mgoetze | thttpd |
| 03:58.05 | chakatz | JMTeal: I like ssh/sftp. Secure downloads and uploads. |
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| 03:59.04 | JMTeal | ooh hey here's a stupid question : if i ssh into my deb box, is there a command i can use to transfer files or do i have to sftp to do file transfer? |
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| 03:59.08 | blunted | gravity ok i dont expect you to believe me but im doing exactly what ou say and everytime i hit g it says no packages selected to be removed installed etc |
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| 03:59.12 | blunted | :/ |
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| 03:59.24 | ballistic | JMTeal: scp |
| 03:59.27 | chakatz | JMTeal: Don't fear apache. Its is big but the amount of support available make it user freindly IMHO |
| 03:59.31 | gravity | blunted: Hrm, Ok... I believe you. I know why. Ok... |
| 03:59.54 | gravity | blunted: Hit q until it asks you to quit. Don't let it quit though. Then try and purge x-window-system |
| 04:00.04 | gravity | blunted: If that's not installed, try and purge x-window-system-core |
| 04:00.12 | gravity | blunted: Before you hit g though, you'll have to do some stuff |
| 04:01.01 | blunted | yeh it wont let me do _ on x-window-system |
| 04:01.11 | gravity | It won't? |
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| 04:01.33 | blunted | ok hm so it looks like x-window-system-core will work |
| 04:01.34 | JMTeal | ballistic : scp syntax? and is this while i'm logged in? |
| 04:01.36 | blunted | so i hit g |
| 04:01.38 | chakatz | JMTeal: scp is also based on ssh. Similar to sftp but usually used for single files. Anyway. if you are going to use an ssh/sftp/scp solution, there are very nice gui tools for windows as well. |
| 04:01.39 | blunted | then what |
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| 04:01.46 | blunted | its not doing anything |
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| 04:02.06 | JMTeal | windows? what's that? |
| 04:02.09 | blunted | oh wait i think its working |
| 04:02.12 | gravity | blunted: At the top it should tell you somewhere in the menu bar how many packages are broken |
| 04:02.15 | Thorkild | His there a standard way of relocating a whole package? I'd like to build exim4 and install it on a exim3 box for working on migrating the config (and then install a proper exim4 when I've got the config ironed out). I've handled the conflicts and control stuff, and many of the problematic overwrites.. but is there a magic way of setting up some kind of prefix? |
| 04:02.18 | gravity | Oh, you hit g? You weren't supposed to do that... |
| 04:02.24 | gravity | But ok |
| 04:02.26 | skon | What's the command to suspend the comuter? |
| 04:02.36 | chakatz | JMTeal: I shouldn't have said that but ... |
| 04:02.37 | blunted | ok so i have removed x-window-system-core but none of the others so far |
| 04:02.38 | shwag | is there a way to use ls to list all files with their full path ? |
| 04:02.46 | blunted | so i should try the others now yeh ? |
| 04:02.50 | gravity | blunted: That didn't cause anything else to be removed? |
| 04:02.56 | mgoetze | Thorkild: chroot? ;) |
| 04:03.00 | blunted | i would imagine so yes |
| 04:03.04 | blunted | there was a big list |
| 04:03.07 | gravity | What? |
| 04:03.12 | gravity | What was in the list? |
| 04:03.15 | JMTeal | well i use mac (recent convert) and the unix base got me interrested in using unix/linux |
| 04:03.18 | gravity | You need to pay attention to what's going on |
| 04:03.23 | JMTeal | gonna try it on another box for now... |
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| 04:03.40 | Thorkild | mgoetze: and have a complete second debian system? :) I wonder if I could just change the install-part of rules |
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| 04:03.44 | Thorkild | *try* |
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| 04:03.50 | JMTeal | probably get another mac and make it a deb mac soon |
| 04:03.52 | Jcon | can someone point me in the right direction to rebuild the installer w/libata support |
| 04:04.04 | gravity | blunted: If you don't know what's in the list, go to xserver-xorg and see what it's status is. |
| 04:04.17 | JMTeal | but for now... is scp something i can use while im in a ssh session ? |
| 04:04.21 | gravity | blunted: If it's installed it'll have a 'i' on the far left of the line for it's name |
| 04:04.26 | mgoetze | not much point in getting a mac if you're going to install debian on it, imho |
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| 04:05.03 | JMTeal | i may dual boot it... |
| 04:05.04 | JMTeal | ? |
| 04:05.05 | mgoetze | (have had my iBook for about 2 years and still only os x on it) |
| 04:05.11 | chakatz | JMTeal: Are you familiar with webmin? |
| 04:05.13 | karsten | shwag: man ls |
| 04:05.18 | JMTeal | nope |
| 04:05.55 | karsten | JMTeal: Good. Keep it that way ;-) |
| 04:06.24 | JMTeal | mgoetze : had my ibook (first mac) for 6 months... i would never consider buying a windows machine again |
| 04:06.43 | blunted | ok so xserver-xorg returns nothing |
| 04:06.53 | JMTeal | karsten: keep what what way? the webmin thing? |
| 04:07.01 | liable | !webmin |
| 04:07.02 | dpkg | somebody said webmin was a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 04:07.03 | gravity | blunted: Er... sorry. I meant xserver-xfree86 |
| 04:07.11 | karsten | JMTeal: Yeah. It's got better, but you're better off avoiding it. |
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| 04:07.33 | chakatz | JMTeal: It is a web based management server that had plugins for almost everything. Including ftp servers, ssh, apache etc. It isn't something that you want to get hooed on but it can help reduce the curve of becoming comfortible with linux. |
| 04:07.34 | JMTeal | i prefer to do it all command-line style... |
| 04:07.53 | Guerin | don't use webmin |
| 04:07.56 | chakatz | JMTeal: That's best. I agee!!! |
| 04:08.00 | Guerin | even the package maintainer hates it |
| 04:08.03 | blunted | ok so nothing with i in front of it |
| 04:08.05 | blunted | just p |
| 04:08.12 | JMTeal | well i'm already at the point of having my deb box with no monitor or HIDs |
| 04:08.19 | gravity | blunted: xserver-xfree86 has a p in front of it? |
| 04:08.24 | syl-2 | good evening, i've got a problem for apache2, how come adding a second virtual host disables the first ??? |
| 04:08.26 | JMTeal | i access it thru my mac with ssh |
| 04:08.34 | karsten | syl-2: You did it wrong. |
| 04:08.36 | blunted | i wasent able to get rid of the lib ones though |
| 04:08.38 | blunted | yes it does |
| 04:08.41 | JMTeal | and i have a DDNS so i can access it over the web any time |
| 04:08.41 | gravity | Rock |
| 04:08.45 | karsten | !tell syl-2 about paster. |
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| 04:08.56 | Jcon | what do i have to do to rebuild the debian installer with libata? |
| 04:08.57 | karsten | syl-2: Post your /etc/apache/httpd.conf there. |
| 04:09.09 | JMTeal | it is strictly a server |
| 04:09.10 | gravity | blunted: Ok, make sure all the stuff that matches "xlibs" is also purged |
| 04:09.11 | karsten | gravity: ?? |
| 04:09.16 | blunted | ok |
| 04:09.25 | besonen | i'm running stable and have installed apache 1.x, postgresql 7.x, and php 4.x. when i attempt to view a page with phpinfo() all i get is a blank white page. what are some trouble-shooting tips that will could help me to identify the problem? |
| 04:09.42 | karsten | besonen: Read your apache logs. |
| 04:09.47 | syl-2 | karsten: okay, won't be too long |
| 04:09.48 | chakatz | syl-2: You shuld make sure you are using Named Vhosts |
| 04:10.04 | blunted | it wont let me .. same thing as earlier when i press g it tells me nothing to remove |
| 04:10.14 | blunted | i have it highlighted purple |
| 04:10.20 | blunted | and it has an i in front of it |
| 04:10.32 | JMTeal | i hate to get repetiitive... but this scp thing... i'm on my mac in a terminal window... do i ssh to the deb box then use scp, or is scp something i do from my terminal window? |
| 04:10.36 | gravity | Ok, when you have it highlited purple, before you hit g to make it do stuff, look in your menu bar |
| 04:10.40 | eald | besonen: and the php module package? |
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| 04:10.44 | blunted | ok |
| 04:10.46 | chakatz | syl-2: unless you have a unique IP for each vhost. |
| 04:10.46 | gravity | blunted: You should see something like "broken" and some number |
| 04:10.52 | gravity | blunted: What's the number? |
| 04:10.56 | mgoetze | JMTeal: you use scp on your mac, instead of ssh |
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| 04:11.11 | illsci | what package do i have to add to be able to do make menuconfig |
| 04:11.15 | karsten | JMTeal: scp is another commandline app. |
| 04:11.18 | illsci | i added libnurses4 and 5 |
| 04:11.19 | besonen | eald: i installed that, althought it may not be loading. |
| 04:11.20 | JMTeal | so there is no way to transfer a file from within an ssh session? |
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| 04:11.32 | karsten | JMTeal: Not trivially. |
| 04:11.32 | illsci | hmmm maybe i have to configure ldconfig or something |
| 04:11.35 | karsten | mgoetze: Y |
| 04:11.38 | karsten | mgoetze: NM. |
| 04:12.09 | syl-2 | i am using Named Vhosts. in fact i'm a total apache newbie, the problem's got to be really obvious |
| 04:12.10 | JMTeal | well what i have done thus far is ssh to the deb box, find what i'm looking for, ftp back to my mac and do a put... |
| 04:12.14 | JMTeal | PITA |
| 04:12.15 | syl-2 | hold for the pasting |
| 04:12.23 | karsten | JMTeal: You *can* cat files via ssh. Eg: you want to transfer a directory, use tar: tar czvf - path-to-tar | ssh user@remotehost 'cd somepath; tar xzvf -' |
| 04:12.27 | chakatz | JMTeal: sftp is an interactive way. Otherwise you use ssh just to get the path right for scp. |
| 04:12.30 | syl-2 | brb |
| 04:12.32 | illsci | hey |
| 04:12.35 | aum | hi - X question - in xev, my Alt and Ctrl keys work normally, but my Win keys autorepeat - how do I stop this? |
| 04:12.39 | illsci | Can someone help me get make menuconfig to work? |
| 04:12.48 | karsten | !tuesday |
| 04:12.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, tuesday is soylent green day |
| 04:12.49 | illsci | it complains about nurses |
| 04:12.52 | ballistic | illsci: I just did it in my Debian installer :-) |
| 04:12.53 | jetscreamer | install libncurses5-dev |
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| 04:13.03 | ballistic | apt-get install libc6-dev, if you haven't done so already |
| 04:13.15 | JMTeal | so basically there's a bunch or work-arounds but no "way" |
| 04:13.17 | JMTeal | cool |
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| 04:13.27 | illsci | there is no libncurses5-dev |
| 04:13.32 | ballistic | -5 |
| 04:13.38 | syl-2 | !tell syl-2 about paster |
| 04:13.39 | jetscreamer | !info libncurses5-dev |
| 04:13.54 | mgoetze | JMTeal: i wouldn't call scp a work-around.... |
| 04:14.05 | odla | anyone know if there is a way to force the idesk icons to stay locked into an area on my desktop |
| 04:14.14 | illsci | thanks |
| 04:14.15 | illsci | i found it |
| 04:14.23 | jetscreamer | bot is slow |
| 04:14.25 | karsten | JMTeal: ssh is sort of a one-channel thing. You're not creating a VPN, you're openning up one port connection. Except that you can open up multiple ports, but that's different. |
| 04:14.43 | syl-2 | karsten: pasted. #1634 |
| 04:14.52 | blunted | xlibs-data says tk8.3 depends on libs-data(> 4.1.0) and totem-xine depends on libs-data(>= 4.2.1-9) and also capplets and xbase-clients but with no numbers on them |
| 04:14.59 | karsten | JMTeal: If you want to be able to root around on a box *and* transfer files bidirectionally, you might look at lftp (using fish protocol) or mc. |
| 04:15.03 | karsten | syl-2: Full URL please. |
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| 04:15.11 | blunted | there is no numbers for xlibs itself |
| 04:15.14 | chakatz | #1634 |
| 04:15.17 | syl-2 | karten: sorry. http://channels.debian.net/paste/1634 |
| 04:15.24 | blunted | the menu you are referring to is on the bottom yes ? |
| 04:15.28 | ClayG | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.43 | dpkg | libncurses5-dev: (Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 5.5-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1281 kB, Installed size: 5904 kB |
| 04:15.55 | gravity | blunted: Ok, just go with what you've got for now. If the problem is with xlibs then we'll deal with it later. |
| 04:15.58 | karsten | syl-2: What's the vhost you're trying to do? |
| 04:16.03 | blunted | ok |
| 04:16.17 | gravity | blunted: So now set x-window-system-core to install |
| 04:16.23 | syl-2 | karsten: it is called "iris" and would be located in /home/web/iris |
| 04:16.38 | JMTeal | but what i mean is this.... i realized while in an ssh session that the .bashrc for deb had some useful stuff in it... i wanted to copy it to my mac so i could open it next to my mac's bashrc in a gui and edit quickly... so i had to ftp back to my mac to accomplish it... |
| 04:16.40 | JMTeal | ? |
| 04:16.50 | karsten | syl-2: Ah. You're going to need to include the config for that particular bit. Possibly from Include /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/[^.#]* ? |
| 04:16.56 | syl-2 | i even tried to copy the very same code from "default", and changing values. the symlink is indeed in sites-enabled |
| 04:17.10 | JMTeal | so i ended up ssh from mac to deb, then ftp from deb back to mac |
| 04:17.11 | JMTeal | ? |
| 04:17.21 | JMTeal | crazy... there's gotta be a better way. |
| 04:17.22 | mgoetze | JMTeal: in another terminal on your mac, scp debbox:~/.bashrc foo |
| 04:17.25 | karsten | JMTeal: Opening a new session isn't a big deal. |
| 04:17.31 | besonen | eald: do you know what the httpd.conf lineis that loads php? |
| 04:17.38 | gravity | blunted: Also install discover while you're at it for good measure |
| 04:17.55 | mgoetze | JMTeal: incidentally, Terminal.app sucks. i use rxvt in the apple x server instead |
| 04:18.01 | gravity | blunted: Actually, come to think of it, stop the install. Install discover first. Then install x-window-system-core. |
| 04:18.03 | syl-2 | karsten: you mean i need to include data from ../sites-enabled/ into apache2.conf ? |
| 04:18.18 | besonen | eald: there's no chance it goes in the modules.conf file, is there? |
| 04:18.18 | blunted | ok |
| 04:18.19 | karsten | syl-2: Wherever it is that you've got iris configured. I don't see it in what you pasted. |
| 04:18.22 | JMTeal | rxvt? |
| 04:18.27 | karsten | !tell JMTeal about pubkey auth |
| 04:18.34 | JMTeal | what's wrong with terminal? |
| 04:18.36 | blunted | apt-get install discover ? |
| 04:18.48 | gravity | blunted: Just use aptitude to do it |
| 04:18.52 | karsten | JMTeal: rxvt is one of about 7,034 X terminal window clients for Linux. |
| 04:18.54 | blunted | ok |
| 04:19.26 | mgoetze | karsten: s/Linux/UNIX/; |
| 04:19.31 | syl-2 | karsten: oh. i thought that i only had to create a file in /sites-available/ with the DocumentRoot and ServerName values set |
| 04:19.32 | karsten | JMTeal: With public key authentication, you can just scp stuff from one host to another without having to type passwords all the time. |
| 04:19.33 | JMTeal | but what's wrong with terminal.app? |
| 04:19.35 | karsten | mgoetze: Sure. |
| 04:19.45 | blunted | how do i select the package ? because g tells me nothing selected |
| 04:19.51 | karsten | syl-2: Not sure. You might need to restart or re-hup your apache server. |
| 04:20.04 | karsten | syl-2: Try: /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 04:20.09 | JMTeal | karsten : does that mean i can ssh and sftp between my machines without passwords? |
| 04:20.10 | karsten | syl-2: ... and see if that fixes things. |
| 04:20.18 | karsten | JMTeal: That is indeed what I said. |
| 04:20.25 | JMTeal | and does that compromise security from outside my network? |
| 04:20.39 | gravity | blunted: + |
| 04:20.52 | mgoetze | JMTeal: the main reason i stopped using it very quickly was the inability to scrollback via the keyboard |
| 04:21.05 | karsten | JMTeal: Not if you set things up right. Read the link. *Then* ask questions. |
| 04:21.16 | JMTeal | i'm so comfortable with the 2-finger scrollback |
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| 04:21.25 | JMTeal | it's like a part of my body... |
| 04:21.32 | JMTeal | well 2 parts really i guess |
| 04:21.58 | JMTeal | karsten: ok ok... but i wanna know it all RIGHT NOW! |
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| 04:22.20 | jsz_ | hey |
| 04:22.21 | karsten | JMTeal: Read, grasshopper. Then understand. Then ask. |
| 04:22.26 | jsz_ | I just put in a 0000:00:0b.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card |
| 04:22.35 | jsz_ | and phpsysinfo is showing it |
| 04:22.40 | jsz_ | does that mean it's working? |
| 04:22.55 | JMTeal | karsten : got any good pdf/websites/books you can suggest? |
| 04:22.59 | mgoetze | JMTeal: what do you mean by "2-finger scrollback"? |
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| 04:23.09 | jair_11 | Hello guys, I am trying to back up a dvd using the program dvd::rip |
| 04:23.15 | karsten | JMTeal: There's a pretty good SSH book from O'Reilly. It's overkill for now. |
| 04:23.23 | jair_11 | anyone here has experience using dvd::rip on debian? |
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| 04:23.35 | karsten | JMTeal: http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/ssh.jspx |
| 04:23.43 | JMTeal | mgoetze: the newer ibooks have a kickass scrolling feature... to scroll a window, you just get the pointer in the window and drag 2 fingers to scroll |
| 04:23.47 | JMTeal | it rocks |
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| 04:24.05 | karsten | JMTeal: ... googling ssh public key ssh-agent should find stuff. Toss 'debian' into the mix for Debian-specific discussion. |
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| 04:24.31 | karsten | JMTeal: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/sshrsakey.html <= My own oldish notes on the topic. |
| 04:24.54 | mgoetze | JMTeal: sorry, but moving the pointer into the appropriate window is *way* too much effort for me ;) |
| 04:25.29 | jair_11 | guys it is a way to install a mplayer gui??? |
| 04:25.50 | JMTeal | karsten: but i need *ix basics too... i mean i can navigate thru the file system, but when it starts getting into kernels and authentication and system level shit... i get lost... i need a *ix for dummies that pick things up VERY rapidly. |
| 04:26.09 | eald | besonen: is an AddType and a LoadModule |
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| 04:26.15 | jair_11 | I have mplayer installed already and I can open movies with it and everything. But I am almost sure that is a GUI available to make it use little but more user friendly. |
| 04:26.21 | eald | grep in every file in /etc/apache/ |
| 04:26.26 | blunted | *sigh* |
| 04:26.41 | karsten | JMTeal: "Running Linux" remains one of the better books, though it's a tad dated. I also like "The UNIX Programming Environment", which came out in 1985, even though a hell of a lot has changed. |
| 04:27.13 | JMTeal | kasten: i want a semi-detailed explanation of how it all works, but every book i have picked up is either so detailed that it's useless, or so simple that it's useless |
| 04:27.20 | eald | ok blunted, let me say you |
| 04:27.34 | blunted | gravity: ok i give up .. im going to reinstall debian now that i know the correct answers to some of the things i didnt know on the install |
| 04:27.48 | blunted | i thank everyone for their time and help very much |
| 04:28.16 | mgoetze | JMTeal: ah yes, now i remember what the really bad problem was :) whenever i press backspace in Terminal.app i get ^H |
| 04:28.18 | karsten | JMTeal: http://www.debian.org/doc/ |
| 04:28.23 | blunted | you have all been very kind and patient |
| 04:28.40 | mgoetze | JMTeal: that wouldn't normally be a problem, except that "stty erase ^H" doesn't fix it |
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| 04:28.50 | karsten | JMTeal: ... is another really good starting point. I'll stand by "Running Linux" and "Linux in a Nutshell". Read 'em, try stuff, ask questions here or on a mailing list. |
| 04:28.56 | blunted | same error in case anyone is wondering |
| 04:28.59 | JMTeal | stty erase = ^H (or something similar) ... put it in /etc/bashrc |
| 04:29.25 | JMTeal | oh i'm behind... |
| 04:29.35 | mgoetze | JMTeal: that would hardly help, since i don't use bash... |
| 04:29.38 | chakatz | syl-2: You have to create the configuration file in sites-available and then create a link to it in sites-enabled. Only files in sites-enabled are active. |
| 04:29.56 | JMTeal | what are you asking me for... i dont know shit |
| 04:30.02 | karsten | JMTeal: ... There's over a quarter-million pages of manpage docs as well ;-) |
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| 04:30.18 | eald | blunted: you actual problem is apache or aptitude? don't get it right now |
| 04:30.19 | JMTeal | i just need a good jump-off point.. |
| 04:30.20 | mgoetze | JMTeal: well, you wanted to know why i think Terminal.app is crap ;) |
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| 04:30.31 | JMTeal | it works for me... |
| 04:30.37 | karsten | JMTeal: Running Linux, third time ;-) |
| 04:30.38 | JMTeal | if not bash then what? |
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| 04:30.45 | mgoetze | JMTeal: zsh |
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| 04:30.52 | JMTeal | and what's with all the different "shells" & "kernels?" |
| 04:31.01 | JMTeal | what's the diff? |
| 04:31.01 | karsten | JMTeal: ... and "works for me" is a perfectly acceptable answer, BTW, but Terminal.app *is* crap ;-) |
| 04:31.09 | amphi | JMTeal: choice |
| 04:31.12 | user12 | anyone know how to get the rt2500 wireless card driver to work in sarge? |
| 04:31.50 | karsten | JMTeal: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html |
| 04:31.51 | jsz_ | I just put in a wifi card and when I look at phpsysinfo I get |
| 04:31.56 | karsten | JMTeal: Hush and read ;-) |
| 04:31.58 | amphi | user12: a friend of mine has one; built the driver from src (is it on sf.net) and it worked, 'outta the box; |
| 04:32.00 | jsz_ | 0000:00:0b.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card |
| 04:32.04 | JMTeal | i mean... i see that some of the beauty in *ix is choice... but some things should be standard ?? what's the diff in zsh and bash? what makes it better for you? |
| 04:32.05 | jsz_ | does that mean it's working? |
| 04:32.32 | amphi | JMTeal: zsh is the drunkard's shell ;) |
| 04:32.35 | user12 | amphi - did he create a .deb or what? |
| 04:32.52 | amphi | user12: no, just built the module IIRC |
| 04:32.59 | JMTeal | but... i'm quite a heavy drinker... i should switch? |
| 04:33.05 | mgoetze | JMTeal: better completion, better prompt customization, more syntactic sugar... |
| 04:33.27 | amphi | JMTeal: it's worth it for RPROMPT alone ;) |
| 04:33.34 | chakatz | JMTeal: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/index.shtml is a bit basic but very clear on what it does cover. Great for beginers and designed for debian. |
| 04:33.39 | user12 | can you give me the link to the source |
| 04:33.43 | user12 | amphi |
| 04:33.45 | mgoetze | yeah, i heart my RPS1 |
| 04:34.09 | karsten | JMTeal: There's no One Supreme Authority to say that This Is The One True Shell. So if someone has an idea for how to do things differently, they can. 'bash' is pretty much the standard Linux shell, but you've got: sh, pdksh, csh, tcsh, zsh, dash, ash, sash, fish, psh, lsh, ... |
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| 04:34.37 | amphi | JMTeal: or rc if you really want to stand out from the crows |
| 04:34.39 | JMTeal | so when you see jmtsh you know where it came from... |
| 04:34.42 | amphi | JMTeal: er, crowd |
| 04:34.48 | mgoetze | linux systems don't have sh... it's just a symlink to bash |
| 04:34.49 | user12 | amphi - I can't find it on sourceforge |
| 04:34.51 | JMTeal | i liked crows better |
| 04:34.58 | amphi | heh |
| 04:35.15 | mgoetze | if you ever get a chance to use a real /bin/sh, you'll know why it's worthwhile to write other ones ;) |
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| 04:35.26 | karsten | mgoetze: ... or dash or ash, which are more borne-compliant IIRC. |
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| 04:35.37 | besonen | eald: well, i uncommented the two php AddType entries and i added "LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so" to the httpd.conf. still getting a white page. i shouldn't need to include the ssi module. should i? |
| 04:35.39 | amphi | user12: google for linux+wireless within hp.com and you'll find a page that links to the driver IIRC |
| 04:35.43 | JMTeal | i tried netbsd before deb... i think that's sh right? |
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| 04:36.05 | amphi | JMTeal: csh by default I think |
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| 04:36.07 | mgoetze | netbsd uses ash, which is much closer to the original /bin/sh, just not quite as annoying ;) |
| 04:36.13 | karsten | JMTeal: BSDs use Bourne, yes. |
| 04:36.25 | karsten | JMTeal: Root gets Bourne, users get csh. |
| 04:36.45 | mgoetze | oh yeah, another advantage of zsh over bash: it's *much* easier to compile |
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| 04:37.01 | eald | besonen: no |
| 04:37.08 | JMTeal | well you guys have been very informative and entertaining... i'm gonna go read some web sites and try to confuse myself... i'm sure i will see you guys soon... |
| 04:37.12 | JMTeal | thanks thanks thanks |
| 04:37.17 | karsten | JMTeal: NP |
| 04:37.17 | user12 | amphi - that search gives over 200 results |
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| 04:37.32 | mgoetze | the only thing i ever had to compile before i could get zsh to compile was gnu make, because hp-ux make is really, really crap |
| 04:37.35 | karsten | user12: Start at teh top |
| 04:37.36 | besonen | eald: ok where do i look next then to isolate this problem? |
| 04:37.42 | eald | your code is ok? |
| 04:37.57 | eald | I mean is <? phpinfo(); ?> |
| 04:38.03 | besonen | all i'm attempting to run is phpinfo() |
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| 04:38.05 | eald | not php_info or something like that? |
| 04:38.07 | mgoetze | bash, on the other hand, well you can start by building gnu make, bison, gawk, gnu autoconf, etc. |
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| 04:38.16 | amphi | user12: well, use your skill and judgement - it's probably one of the first ones; the guys name is Jean something |
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| 04:40.23 | besonen | eald: "<? phpinfo(); ?>", yes, exactly |
| 04:40.36 | eald | besonen: another thing is, what apache says /var/log/apache/access.log and /var/log/apache/error.log you could use something like tail -f /var/log/apache/error.log then reloading your page |
| 04:41.36 | keherman | can anyone explain to me why an NFS mount is taking 120 seconds? |
| 04:42.24 | amphi | user12: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ |
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| 04:42.45 | mgoetze | keherman: http://eagle.auc.ca/~dreid/ |
| 04:43.43 | besonen | last entry in the error.log: [Tue Jan 24 23:40:01 2006] [error] [client 12.7.123.20] File does not exist: /var/www/favicon.ico |
| 04:43.47 | user12 | amphi - extracting the tarball now - what is the command to make the module tho? can't remember - it's been awhile since I'e installed from source without packaging to a .deb first |
| 04:44.09 | keherman | mgoetze, ! |
| 04:44.13 | eald | besonen: after reloading your test page? |
| 04:44.16 | besonen | last entry in the sccess log: ip address - - [24/Jan/2006:23:40:01 -0500] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 287 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 Firefox/1.0.7" "-" |
| 04:44.30 | amphi | user12: read the docs - probably just make and make install; you'll at least need kernel headers, if not a configure source tree |
| 04:44.42 | besonen | eald: yes |
| 04:44.50 | mgoetze | keherman: ok ok, it would take a lot more than 120 seconds with that method, i admit... |
| 04:44.56 | eald | besonen maybe you arent loading the page you think"GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" |
| 04:44.56 | keherman | mgoetze, lol |
| 04:44.58 | user12 | amphi - i need to get the source, then do a ./configure make modules i think |
| 04:45.07 | user12 | wish I had my notes here |
| 04:45.18 | eald | besonen: the last page requested have a reference to favicon.ico |
| 04:45.22 | amphi | user12: the tarball should have a README or INSTALL file |
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| 04:46.02 | Guerin | besonen: cd /yourwebroot; wget www.debian.org/favicon.ico |
| 04:46.08 | keherman | mgoetze, im going to create a new transfer method -- ip over farts! |
| 04:46.18 | besonen | eald: i'm loading index.html. if i edit index.html and replace the phpinfo() stuff with some text then reload the page the text renders fine. |
| 04:46.20 | Guerin | besonen: and those entries in the error log will disappear |
| 04:46.23 | keherman | mgoetze, the smell will represent each bit |
| 04:46.40 | eald | besonen: now we have something important, you have and index.html |
| 04:46.49 | eald | s/and/an/ |
| 04:46.52 | mgoetze | keherman: i think you can get more bandwidth if you encode the information in both the smell and the sound |
| 04:46.58 | eald | so, this is get for another mimetype |
| 04:47.12 | keherman | mgoetze, no -- length of fart! |
| 04:47.19 | eald | look at /etc/apache/mime.types |
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| 04:48.16 | jsz_ | I have no /usr/src/kernel-headers-x.x.xx-x-x/ dir |
| 04:48.19 | eald | and your AddType _only_ affects the .php, try to understand that line, and you'll see |
| 04:48.38 | besonen | Guerin: done - regarding favicon.ico - will make the logs easier to read at least. |
| 04:48.49 | besonen | eald: what does s/and/an/ mean? |
| 04:49.23 | eald | besonen: in the previous comment from me, substitute 'and' for 'an' |
| 04:49.26 | SimonRaven | man sed |
| 04:49.41 | besonen | gotcha |
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| 04:50.31 | SimonRaven | keherman: what, stink like sulfur and stink like methane? |
| 04:50.37 | SimonRaven | 1 0 |
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| 04:51.13 | TonyRad | Quick question... I am having issues logging in as root on my debian box. I ssh into it, log in as user, then if I try to su -, I get a message saying "no shell". What does this mean? How do I fix it? |
| 04:51.19 | keherman | SimonRaven, you? |
| 04:51.30 | SimonRaven | IPoF |
| 04:51.32 | dondelelcaro | TonyRad: sounds like root doesn't have a valid shell specified |
| 04:51.47 | besonen | eald: so what am i looking for in mime.types? |
| 04:51.48 | TonyRad | Is there somewhere to specify it? It used to work |
| 04:51.58 | odla | cups-unstable |
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| 04:53.08 | eald | besonen: you are trying to understand how it works, but your problem is simple from here, just move your code from an index.html to an something.php and i'll work |
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| 04:53.45 | jsz_ | 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 04:53.45 | deadcat | test |
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| 04:53.51 | TonyRad | Perhaps there is a configuration command or something to set the root shell? |
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| 04:54.15 | cmercado | Good evening. |
| 04:54.24 | besonen | eald: so if i rename index.html to index.php i should be set? |
| 04:54.30 | cmercado | This is my first time installing Debian, and I have a question |
| 04:54.40 | cmercado | How do I fix broken packages for Gnome? |
| 04:54.52 | odla | where were those 0s about? |
| 04:54.54 | zoinks | how do i shot web? |
| 04:54.58 | Guerin | cmercado: depends how they're broken, and what branch you're using |
| 04:55.07 | SimonRaven | besonen: add DirectoryIndex index.php to the relevant <Directory> or <Location> |
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| 04:55.21 | cmercado | I did apt-get install x-window-system-core to get X |
| 04:55.21 | SimonRaven | i really suggest you read up on this stuff |
| 04:55.30 | Guerin | cmercado: paste the output of apt-cache policy; and aptitude -f install to a paster |
| 04:55.32 | cmercado | and then I tried to use apt-get install gnome |
| 04:55.33 | Guerin | !paster cmercado |
| 04:55.34 | dpkg | cmercado: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 04:55.38 | cmercado | ahhh |
| 04:55.44 | odla | cmercado: what does X have to do with gnome? |
| 04:55.53 | Guerin | odla: can't run without it |
| 04:56.01 | gravity | er |
| 04:56.08 | odla | Guerin: you can run just not linux |
| 04:56.12 | besonen | SimonRaven: fwiw i have been reading and haven't found my solution that's why i'm asking here. |
| 04:56.19 | mgoetze | TonyRad: you can find out what shell root uses in /etc/passwd (normally), and that needs to exist and be listed in /etc/shells |
| 04:56.30 | SimonRaven | besonen: what are trying to do? |
| 04:56.32 | Guerin | odla: wtf? how can you run gnome without an X server? |
| 04:56.41 | Guerin | odla: note I'm not talking about a local x server. |
| 04:56.48 | odla | Guerin: i didn't say gnome...i just said you can 'run' with X |
| 04:56.52 | eald | besonen: well yes, but you must search in your browser for http://whatever/index.php |
| 04:56.53 | odla | without X |
| 04:56.58 | odla | i.e. not walk |
| 04:57.02 | Guerin | ... |
| 04:57.04 | cmercado | I just want to fix the gnome-office package |
| 04:57.05 | odla | ha ha |
| 04:57.11 | odla | !irritate odla |
| 04:57.11 | dpkg | odla: wenas how does I run teh grafixx windows kthx |
| 04:57.17 | besonen | get php working - specifically get phpinfo() to work to confirm apache/php functionality |
| 04:57.19 | Guerin | odla: how fitting. |
| 04:57.21 | odla | ha ha |
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| 04:57.36 | TonyRad | Quick question... I am having issues logging in as root on my debian box. I ssh into it, log in as user, then if I try to su -, I get a message saying "no shell". How do I fix it? |
| 04:57.48 | SimonRaven | besonen: easy, read the comments in httpd.conf/apache2.conf and reload the conf |
| 04:57.57 | Guerin | TonyRad: try plain su |
| 04:58.08 | Guerin | TonyRad: or ask the admin to unfuck the box for you |
| 04:58.27 | mgoetze | TonyRad: what does it say if you 'head -n 1 /etc/passwd'? |
| 04:58.57 | TonyRad | "su" does the same thing |
| 04:59.00 | odla | ha ha |
| 04:59.08 | besonen | i'm using apache 1.x SimonRaven |
| 04:59.37 | TonyRad | root:x:0:0:root:/root:kdelbarba |
| 04:59.48 | TonyRad | (kdelbarba being the username) |
| 05:00.18 | Guerin | TonyRad: why did you do that? |
| 05:00.27 | mgoetze | TonyRad: well, looks like someone played around with /etc/passwd without having a clue what he/she was doing |
| 05:00.29 | besonen | eald and SimonRaven: i've gotten a bit further. after i renamed index.html to index.php and reloaded the page i got this error message: Parse error: parse error, unexpected '=' in /var/www/index.php on line 7 |
| 05:00.36 | besonen | better than a blank white page |
| 05:00.44 | TonyRad | Guerin: Unfortunately the admin has no idea what he's doing.. it's my roommates box and he is asking me for help |
| 05:00.54 | Guerin | TonyRad: reinstall from scratch |
| 05:00.55 | eald | besonen: and in your index.php do you have php code right? |
| 05:00.56 | keherman | anyone know a good command line MP3 player? |
| 05:01.00 | mgoetze | TonyRad: it should be something like 'root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash' |
| 05:01.05 | odla | keherman: ocp |
| 05:01.15 | besonen | eald: yup |
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| 05:01.16 | Guerin | TonyRad: if he's managed to fuck this up so horribly, god only knows what else he's fucked up |
| 05:01.21 | keherman | odla, in the repos? |
| 05:01.30 | odla | keherman: backports.org |
| 05:01.31 | TonyRad | mgoetze is there a way to fix this? |
| 05:01.42 | keherman | odla, ehh -- anything in deb? |
| 05:01.47 | keherman | looking in the repos |
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| 05:01.53 | keherman | only find music123 |
| 05:01.53 | eald | then you have and error in that page, thats simple and offtopic here |
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| 05:02.02 | mgoetze | TonyRad: well, you could plug the hard drive into another box, and fix /etc/passwd |
| 05:02.05 | odla | keherman: you can add a repository from backports.org it's part of the debian project |
| 05:02.16 | Guerin | TonyRad: boot with init=/bin/sh, then do mount -o remount,rw /; nano /etc/passwd |
| 05:02.18 | keherman | odla, yeah i know...but... |
| 05:02.19 | liable | keherman: cplay (you'll also need mpg321) |
| 05:02.31 | odla | keherman: otherwise i don't know any other command line mp3 players |
| 05:02.36 | TonyRad | Alright, awesome. Thanks Guerin. |
| 05:02.43 | odla | keherman: apt-cache search mp3 |
| 05:02.44 | odla | ? |
| 05:02.56 | mgoetze | Guerin: that's way too easy, don't you think this deserves more pain? ;) |
| 05:02.56 | TonyRad | I'll take a look into it |
| 05:02.59 | Guerin | TonyRad: my first piece of advice is still a better idea. |
| 05:03.08 | Guerin | mgoetze: yeah, you're probably right. |
| 05:03.09 | TonyRad | Which one? |
| 05:03.22 | Guerin | TonyRad: reinsdtall from scratch. if he's managed to fuck this up so horribly, god only knows what else he's fucked up |
| 05:03.35 | keherman | odla, yeah thats how i found the one command line player |
| 05:03.53 | odla | keherman: try liable's player |
| 05:03.57 | besonen | eald: but that would imply that apache and php are functional, eh? |
| 05:04.06 | keherman | liable, yeah thanks dude |
| 05:04.10 | TonyRad | ALright, I'm out |
| 05:04.19 | mgoetze | TonyRad: have "fun" |
| 05:04.34 | Guerin | TonyRad: hurt your roommate |
| 05:04.45 | TonyRad | ha. I told him what to do.. I'm making him fix it |
| 05:04.58 | Guerin | TonyRad: beat him within an inch of his life using an original unix manual |
| 05:05.07 | Guerin | or a free AOL cd would do, as well |
| 05:05.09 | eald | besonen: yeap, that message come from php |
| 05:05.29 | odla | Guerin: are you a dd? |
| 05:05.30 | besonen | thanks for all your help eald |
| 05:05.40 | Guerin | odla: no, I think I'm less than an AA |
| 05:05.44 | shwag | ps accepts both UNIX and BSD style options...is there a generally more used one ? |
| 05:06.01 | odla | Guerin: how's your hibernation? |
| 05:06.22 | eald | np |
| 05:06.26 | Guerin | odla: working perfectly, now that I hacked a dirty little shell script to cover up for toshiba's BIOS failings |
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| 05:07.34 | mgoetze | shwag: if you want to use several different unices, you'll have to learn both |
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| 05:10.32 | keherman | how do i rename a file with a dash in it?!?! |
| 05:10.37 | Vinland | quick question.... I have a web directory /var/www/html/page and I want to make a backup copy to ftp back to my laptop where I can store it. I'm not a regular with linux and I can't rememer the exact syntax to tar and zip it tar -zcvf /var/www/html/page pagebackup.gzip |
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| 05:11.30 | philips | keherman: mv -- - foo |
| 05:11.35 | keherman | Vinland, tar czvf myzip.tar.gz /var/www/html/page |
| 05:11.39 | slara | how can i tell to discover to not load a module? |
| 05:11.50 | Vinland | keherman -- thanks |
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| 05:12.20 | liable | slara: in its conf/blacklist |
| 05:12.42 | slara | liable: ok, thanks |
| 05:12.55 | keherman | philips, thanks! |
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| 05:21.19 | Jmax | how can i fix this locale error? |
| 05:21.20 | Jmax | http://pastebin.ca/38487 |
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| 05:22.14 | gravity | Jmax: I think dpkg-reconfigure locales will let you generate the right locale if it's missing... |
| 05:22.37 | Jmax | i have my locale set to en_US.UTF-8 |
| 05:22.53 | maelztrom | Okay..this is probably...ridiculously newb...but google was little help and it feels very bizarre |
| 05:22.59 | gravity | It looks like that locale isn't installed |
| 05:23.00 | Jmax | should perhaps i restart? |
| 05:23.06 | Jmax | how can i install it? |
| 05:23.12 | maelztrom | I have an entry in my fstab: "/dev/hda4 /mnt/FAT vfat rw,user 0 2" |
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| 05:23.23 | oat | hi |
| 05:23.24 | gravity | I would have sworn it was the locales package |
| 05:23.43 | Jmax | well i have locales |
| 05:23.44 | maelztrom | permissions on /mnt/FAT are "drwxrwx--- root myMainUser" |
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| 05:23.51 | gravity | Jmax: dpkg-reconfigure it |
| 05:24.10 | maelztrom | as root I "mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/FAT" and permissions on it change to: |
| 05:24.14 | oat | What GUI IRC client does everyone recommened which has a package for debian? |
| 05:24.20 | maelztrom | "drwxr-xr-x root root"...what...gives? |
| 05:24.25 | Jmax | oat, xchat |
| 05:24.27 | maelztrom | default on mount is r/w... |
| 05:24.31 | Jmax | gravity, i did, |
| 05:24.36 | oat | xchat doesn't look nice at all |
| 05:24.39 | gravity | Jmax: You have to choose your locale from the first question |
| 05:24.46 | Jmax | i did |
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| 05:24.50 | oat | I am using gajim for jabber |
| 05:24.50 | Jmax | oat, it can ;) |
| 05:24.55 | oat | and it looks lovely |
| 05:24.57 | Jmax | oat, try 2.6 with tree view |
| 05:24.59 | gravity | Jmax: It's got a star next to it or whatever? |
| 05:25.09 | Jmax | gravity, yes |
| 05:25.11 | gravity | hrm |
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| 05:25.55 | gravity | Jmax: I don't know then. That's the only error I can figure out, unless you're in a chroot or something when you get that error |
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| 05:25.58 | oat | Jmax: the connection box looks really ugly! |
| 05:26.04 | Jmax | oat, disable it! |
| 05:26.15 | rend | what mail server do you guys recommend, other than sendmail and qmail |
| 05:26.17 | magyar | openoffice for amd64? |
| 05:26.22 | oat | Jmax: and there is no 2.6 in sid even! |
| 05:26.23 | gravity | rend: postfix |
| 05:26.34 | zoinks | Jmax: think about your breathing |
| 05:26.42 | Jmax | zoinks, yes sir |
| 05:26.56 | Jmax | oat, use a non-official mirror (apt-get.org) |
| 05:27.13 | oat | Jmax: I guess you where not here yesterday |
| 05:27.18 | Jmax | erm |
| 05:27.21 | Jmax | no, i wasn't |
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| 05:27.24 | Jmax | what happened then? |
| 05:27.32 | oat | After what happened... I null routed apt-get.org |
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| 05:27.42 | oat | azeem: again, thanks for all your help! |
| 05:27.50 | Jmax | oat heh |
| 05:27.51 | Jmax | works for me |
| 05:28.25 | ballistic | Well, now I'm having problems setting up my RAID 5. |
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| 05:28.52 | ballistic | The Debian installer seems to be having issues with hdi and hdk |
| 05:28.58 | mgoetze | so what's the problem with apt-get.org, other than most of the backports being for woody? |
| 05:29.03 | ballistic | (the partition tool, that is) |
| 05:29.34 | oat | Should I upgrade xorg from 6.8 to 6.9? |
| 05:29.43 | oat | n/m I'll check the bug list |
| 05:29.55 | gravity | oat: Do you use dual-head? |
| 05:30.04 | oat | gravity: no |
| 05:30.18 | gravity | oat: You use an English keymap, right? |
| 05:30.27 | oat | Yes |
| 05:30.38 | gravity | oat: Is this for a laptop that you suspend? |
| 05:30.52 | oat | I have other locals enabled but not using any of them |
| 05:31.04 | gravity | That's ok. The keymaps are broken for some people in 6.9 |
| 05:31.05 | dscener | Anyone willing to throw me a newsvine invite? |
| 05:31.07 | oat | gravity: home computer. |
| 05:31.21 | gravity | oat: Cool, then 6.9 should be fine for you. You don't need to go rushing after it though. |
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| 05:32.06 | gravity | There are regressions for some people with some drivers, but for others it works great |
| 05:32.07 | oat | I am using i810 |
| 05:32.07 | gravity | Yeah, a few reports of regressions. |
| 05:32.12 | gravity | Same with radeon. |
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| 05:32.58 | oat | Anyone mind to give me a link to see what packages have been requested? |
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| 05:33.14 | gravity | bugs.debian.org/wnpp |
| 05:33.26 | odla | oh no...udev update... |
| 05:33.35 | threat | uh oh |
| 05:33.43 | IdahoEv | what's the easiest way to check if two different servers have the same packages installed? |
| 05:34.05 | matthew | i want to request a specific IP address from my router (linksys standard), does dhcp do that? |
| 05:34.06 | mgoetze | IdahoEv: dpkg --get-selections and diff |
| 05:34.19 | IdahoEv | mgoetze: many thanks |
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| 05:34.38 | IdahoEv | matthew: why not just set a static IP? |
| 05:34.48 | matthew | how do I do that? |
| 05:35.21 | IdahoEv | matthew: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html |
| 05:35.26 | matthew | i've always used dhcplient |
| 05:35.30 | odla | ha ha...i have apt-listbugs installed...udev 6 bugs... |
| 05:35.31 | matthew | okay, give me a moment to read that |
| 05:35.34 | oat | gravity: thanks |
| 05:35.40 | matthew | thank you |
| 05:35.43 | gravity | oat: No problem. |
| 05:36.01 | IdahoEv | matthew: look down to 10.6.1.1: configuring with a static IP address |
| 05:36.31 | atrus | gravity: speaking of regressions, what do you use mouse-wise? wondering if you've seen any of the protocol:evdev->driver:evdev regressions i saw on my mx1000. |
| 05:36.35 | oat | I know this may not be the best channel to ask, but what is the Sans font in GNOME called in the firefox list? |
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| 05:37.01 | gravity | atrus: Yes... that's because I killed the debian-specific implementation of the evdev protocol. I'm still debating whether to put it back. |
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| 05:37.17 | gravity | atrus: Have you tried the evdev driver instead of the mouse driver? |
| 05:37.26 | atrus | gravity: please please please :) if you havn't noticed, i'm the guy that's been whining about it on debian-x :) |
| 05:37.45 | matthew | k, one question before I delve into this: will it work on a dhcp server router so that my windows computers still get their IPs automatically? |
| 05:38.03 | gravity | atrus: Oh... there's like 3 people whining and a few people posting fixes |
| 05:38.15 | gravity | atrus: Post your xorg.conf file please |
| 05:38.31 | gravity | I'll look at it really quickly before I go to bed |
| 05:38.35 | atrus | gravity: yeah, that's all i can do now. this mouse never worked right with the traditional mouse driver&protocol, missing buttons, so i had to use protocol:evdev. that dropped, whoop. |
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| 05:39.47 | twosy | i need vsftpd to accept connections from a single non-anonymous user |
| 05:40.01 | oat | n/m asking on gimpnet |
| 05:40.17 | twosy | i didn't find any doc explaining how to "add a ftp user" and i'm really stuck cuz i need it working very soon :( |
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| 05:41.04 | jsz__ | I have no file named /etc/modules.conf |
| 05:41.15 | jsz__ | I need it to install my rt2500 driver |
| 05:41.17 | atrus | gravity: url sent in private message. |
| 05:41.23 | matthew | hey, idaho, this is just what I needed. thanks so much! |
| 05:41.40 | gravity | atrus: Er... I didn't get it |
| 05:41.46 | gravity | Could you just put it in a paster or something? |
| 05:41.53 | gravity | Or just say it here |
| 05:41.54 | atrus | gravity: http://achenar.rifetech.com/~atrus/xorg.conf |
| 05:42.32 | Azar | very strange stuff with blunted there... well he will figure it out with the time |
| 05:42.36 | gravity | atrus: Ok, what's the problem with the evdev driver for you? |
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| 05:43.23 | atrus | gravity: well the most annoying one is that i get keyboard events in addition to the regular mouse events when i use the horizontal scroller. |
| 05:43.37 | gravity | whoa... ok |
| 05:44.01 | myren | why is locales package removed? what do i add to get back unicode support? |
| 05:44.15 | Azar | gravity, if you are curious, I picked this on google as info while helping blunted: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/04/msg00209.html |
| 05:44.54 | myren | oh nm |
| 05:45.08 | atrus | gravity: then there's the extra 11/12 button events on the cruise control up/down buttons. i actually have a rough work-around for that, because i only found a config for protocol:evdev that fixed it literally a day or 2 before protocol:evdev was removed :) |
| 05:45.08 | myren | it was conflicting with base-config, but base-config is a dummy package |
| 05:46.01 | atrus | gravity: if i ever sound overly emotional in my bug reports about my problems, that's why :) |
| 05:46.01 | myren | yyaaay, it only took 7 hours to dist-upgrade! |
| 05:46.26 | myren | crusoe 800mhz you _fail_. i suppose the hard drive is largely to blame as well, but I did get a decent 5400rpm laptop drive. |
| 05:46.32 | gravity | atrus: Ok, I'll look at adding the patches again, but I won't promise anything |
| 05:46.55 | gravity | atrus: I'm more concerned with other things at the moment |
| 05:47.14 | gravity | atrus: I'll also forward the issue upstream so maybe we can get some sort of decent patch |
| 05:47.29 | atrus | gravity: i'd appreciate the attention to it. it just sounds like there's a lot of work & changes coming up yet in evdev, so it's sounding like it'll have more headaches in the future |
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| 05:47.41 | atrus | gravity: yeah, i already filed this one upstream. i can get the url for you if you want it |
| 05:47.41 | ClayG | i just did a dist-upgrade and after rebooting I can't get into X |
| 05:47.51 | SerajewelKS | who would have guessed OO calc would take so long to chart 34560 cells |
| 05:47.54 | ClayG | looking at the error messages it looks like it is something with the mouse |
| 05:47.54 | gravity | atrus: Ok, is your bug in Debian marked as forwarded? |
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| 05:48.00 | ClayG | is there a CLI app to configure the mouse? |
| 05:48.20 | atrus | gravity: no, i'm afraid i don't know b.d.o that well. |
| 05:48.35 | gravity | atrus: Ok, yeah. What's the url for your upstream bug and the bug number for your debian one? I'll do it. |
| 05:48.50 | mgoetze | anyone know of an apt-gettable gnumeric backport? |
| 05:49.25 | ballistic | It's probably a bad thing for parted to seg fault. |
| 05:49.27 | gravity | ClayG: What packages were upgraded? |
| 05:50.35 | ClayG | I didnt keep track, but many |
| 05:50.40 | gravity | ouch |
| 05:50.49 | gravity | ClayG: Ok, install mdetect |
| 05:51.02 | gravity | ClayG: Then run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg if you're in etch or sid) |
| 05:51.31 | gravity | ClayG: You probably just need to point the mouse at the right device. Probably /dev/input/mice |
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| 05:52.19 | atrus | gravity: relavent b.d.o #'s: #347677 -> b.fd.o #5578. i also filed b.d.o #347681, duped recently in b.d.o #349586. debian-x thread "new evdev: Support for old mouse driver options?" also has some good related points to the missing options that affected me |
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| 05:53.11 | voltagex | I think I've made a mistake in my bash_profile. Why do I see a whole lot of lines beginning with declare -x when I login? |
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| 05:53.48 | gravity | atrus: Ok, thanks |
| 05:53.50 | Supaplex | with all the things you may have put in there.... who knows |
| 05:53.52 | itp560 | what is the package name to install nis server ? |
| 05:54.05 | atrus | gravity: hope it helps some anyways :) |
| 05:55.05 | JRWR | I have a ITE 8212 ATA RAID card and i whant to duel boot debian onto the attached HD on it, my BIOS does not know its a ATA card and wont boot off of it but i do have this smaller/slower drive to put grub/lilo onto but dont forget it has windows xp i would like to save, |
| 05:55.15 | liable | how can i tell what is unblanking my screen? it will only stay blank for ~5 mins.. |
| 05:55.42 | mgoetze | itp560: nis |
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| 05:55.59 | atrus | gravity: btw, b.d.o #347681, system lockup on bad config, hasn't been filed upstream afaik. |
| 05:56.01 | liable | hrm, seems to be acpid. |
| 05:56.10 | gravity | atrus: Cool, thanks |
| 05:56.11 | jair_11 | guys how do I install mplayer gui in debian sarge? |
| 05:56.15 | jair_11 | !mplayer |
| 05:56.15 | dpkg | somebody said mplayer was not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 05:56.29 | jair_11 | I got it guys |
| 05:56.39 | jair_11 | I think |
| 05:56.59 | odla | good night all |
| 05:57.00 | ballistic | mmmmm... my hard drive's nice and toaster. Maybe I should put more than 1mm between them. |
| 05:57.14 | oat | cya |
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| 05:57.37 | Gulan | mplayer legal saga? Sounds interesting. |
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| 05:57.55 | jair_11 | !w32codecs |
| 05:57.56 | dpkg | from memory, w32codecs is a package, not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues, that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway |
| 05:58.19 | mgoetze | jair: try /tell dpkg w32codecs |
| 05:58.27 | jair_11 | ok |
| 05:58.31 | JRWR | jair_11: you can get all this stuff on mphq.hu |
| 05:58.32 | jair_11 | mgoetze, thank you |
| 05:58.56 | jair_11 | ForrestF, thank you |
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| 06:00.18 | atrus | gravity: ack, before i forget, thanks man. you're doing great stuff. lately i love reading debian-x waiting for the next big announcment. |
| 06:00.30 | ForrestF | I have a ITE 8212 ATA RAID card and i whant to duel boot debian onto the attached HD on it, my BIOS does not know its a ATA card and wont boot off of it but i do have this smaller/slower drive to put grub/lilo onto but dont forget it has windows xp i would like to save, |
| 06:00.48 | gravity | atrus: Heh, I appreciate it. I'm busy trying to get the modular stuff in order right now, which takes away from all the usual bugfixing that needs doing |
| 06:01.02 | Gulan | ForrestF: Why the name change/repost of your Q? And what's the rest of yoru question? |
| 06:01.18 | atrus | gravity: all of which i'm looking forward to testing, belive me :) |
| 06:01.27 | gravity | atrus: Soon enough hopefully |
| 06:02.14 | gravity | I'm hoping to have a full set of packages uploaded by the end of next week. Once the ftpmasters approve it all, it'll be in experimental for a bit while we hammer it in to shape |
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| 06:02.51 | Gulan | !mplayer legal saga |
| 06:02.51 | dpkg | Mplayer is currently not in Debian because the legal saga surrounding its codebase has not been concluded. Unfortunately, upstream has not done due diligence with the licensing of their codebase, creating a need for ftpmaster or a representative to audit the codebase before inclusion in Debian. See http://people.debian.org/~mjr/legal/mplayer.html |
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| 06:03.44 | deadcat | anyone uses american express? is their site americanexpress.com? |
| 06:04.15 | deadcat | nevermind. i am not gonna reg. |
| 06:04.18 | Guerin | !fgi i'm+too+fucking+stupid+to+find+the+american+express+website |
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| 06:04.26 | Guerin | !fgi deadcat i'm+too+fucking+stupid+to+find+the+american+express+website |
| 06:04.27 | dpkg | deadcat: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=i'm+too+fucking+stupid+to+find+the+american+express+website |
| 06:04.30 | Guerin | there you go |
| 06:04.31 | Guerin | jesus |
| 06:04.32 | deadcat | boo |
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| 06:05.14 | magyar | openoffice for amd64? |
| 06:05.52 | Guerin | magyar: it barely holds together on x86, let alone on amd64 |
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| 06:06.36 | magyar | Guerin, might hold better on amd64 -_- |
| 06:06.39 | jair_11 | guys, If I have an athlon 2500 this will be an k-7? k-6 ? or a 586? |
| 06:06.49 | Guerin | magyar: given the amount of java involved, I sincerely doubt it. |
| 06:06.52 | mgoetze | k7 |
| 06:06.54 | Guerin | jair_11: k7 |
| 06:07.34 | magyar | Guerin, uh, right java... that pass over my head. JAva is not working on amd64 |
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| 06:07.53 | Guerin | magyar: well, java does. Just not SUN java. |
| 06:08.16 | Gulan | !marillat |
| 06:08.16 | dpkg | i guess marillat is (from memory, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid>) |
| 06:08.24 | magyar | Guerin, odd |
| 06:08.29 | Guerin | magyar: debian's oo.o packages use gcj, so that's not the issue - the issue is that the code is written for 32-bit |
| 06:08.38 | jair_11 | Guerin, then I should install the mplayer from the "deb marillant" and get the mplayer-k7? |
| 06:08.46 | Guerin | jair_11: sure. |
| 06:08.55 | magyar | Guerin, kool |
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| 06:09.17 | mgoetze | jair: no, obviously you should get the intel c compiler and then compile mplayer from source ;) |
| 06:09.19 | Gulan | Guerin: Doesn't the AMD64 distro also allow for use of 32bit binaries in 32bit mode? |
| 06:09.42 | Guerin | Gulan: sure. You need a 32-bit chroot. |
| 06:09.43 | jair_11 | mgoetze, you are being smart with me or what is your problem? |
| 06:09.46 | cunakya | I've just put debian in an ooold IMB thinkpad, and I don't have any idea how to check the battery life. Any help is appreciated |
| 06:09.56 | Gulan | Guerin: What's the problem then? ;p |
| 06:10.06 | Guerin | Gulan: ever set up a 32-bit chroot? |
| 06:10.09 | deadcat | still no flash in ff1.5? |
| 06:10.15 | Guerin | cunakya: how old? |
| 06:10.16 | Gulan | Guerin: Thank god, no. Why? ;p |
| 06:10.24 | magyar | whats with mplayer, pattent issues? |
| 06:10.24 | Guerin | Gulan: there you go. |
| 06:10.26 | jair_11 | deadcat, Flash yes, shokewave not. |
| 06:10.33 | jair_11 | for linux |
| 06:10.34 | deadcat | jair_11: k |
| 06:10.34 | Guerin | magyar: /msg dpkg mplayer legal saga |
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| 06:10.49 | Gulan | Guerin: But that doesn't mean you can't run 32bit apps with the AMD64 distro ;p |
| 06:10.50 | cunakya | Guerin: 266.625MHz Intel Pentium MMX. pretty damn old. doesn't even have en ethernet port |
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| 06:10.57 | deadcat | jair_11: got a link? |
| 06:11.02 | Guerin | cunakya: acpi or apm? |
| 06:11.05 | mgoetze | jair: i'm just pointing out that k7 optimizations are not all that important, nor are they the most you can do |
| 06:11.21 | Guerin | cunakya: try apt-get install acpi; modprobe battery; acpi |
| 06:11.28 | cunakya | Guerin: you lost me already =P |
| 06:11.51 | cunakya | Guerin: ty |
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| 06:12.10 | Guerin | cunakya: acpi and apm are two separate power management systems. 266 would be around 1998. I have a toshiba from 1997 which uses acpi. |
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| 06:12.22 | Guerin | older systems tend to use apm |
| 06:12.37 | cunakya | Guerin: excelent info. thanks a ton |
| 06:12.51 | soup | can someone tell me why my chroot setup is just displaying numbers for `ls -l` when there is a /etc/passwd and /etc/group |
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| 06:13.20 | mgoetze | soup: well, is there an /etc/nsswitch.conf? |
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| 06:13.56 | soup | mgoetze: no, let me copy that over |
| 06:14.19 | jair_11 | deadcat, link about what? |
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| 06:14.49 | deadcat | jair_11: flash for 1.5 |
| 06:15.08 | soup | mgoetze: copied the file over, its still just display number |
| 06:15.09 | soup | s |
| 06:15.38 | mgoetze | soup: and the corresponding /lib/libnss*? |
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| 06:16.39 | deadcat | jair_11: i kinna have: flashplayer.xpt* libflashplayer.so* libjavaplugin.so@ libnullplugin.so* |
| 06:16.41 | magyar | if Divx and dvd decoding is removed how is one suppose to view media? |
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| 06:16.58 | jair_11 | deadcat, so? |
| 06:17.01 | magyar | mpalyer |
| 06:17.16 | soup | mgoetze: ah ha! thank you |
| 06:17.24 | jair_11 | deadcat, you can have flash but not shokewave in Linux FF |
| 06:17.25 | mgoetze | soup: yw :) |
| 06:17.43 | jair_11 | deadcat, in the windows version it will work, it is a shokewave |
| 06:17.46 | deadcat | jair_11: go to baytobreakers.com see if you see anything |
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| 06:18.40 | jair_11 | deadcat, I see a very nice flash intro |
| 06:18.47 | jair_11 | with San Francisco |
| 06:18.47 | deadcat | jair_11: damn. i dont see shit |
| 06:18.56 | jair_11 | deadcat, debian? |
| 06:19.00 | deadcat | jair_11: ya. |
| 06:19.01 | jair_11 | of course hahaa |
| 06:19.14 | jair_11 | what version of Firefox do you have? |
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| 06:19.16 | deadcat | jair_11: what are you running? |
| 06:19.20 | deadcat | 1.5 |
| 06:19.32 | deadcat | 1.5.dfsg-4 |
| 06:19.35 | jair_11 | Linux caracas 2.6.8-2-686 #1 Tue Aug 16 13:22:48 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 06:19.41 | mhall | Is there a better faster way to say i18n and l10n than 'eye-eighteen-en' and 'ell-ten-en' or internationalization and localization? |
| 06:20.02 | chemaja | mhall: "eye-ate-un"? :) |
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| 06:20.14 | jair_11 | deadcat, all you have to do is download the flash from www.macromedia.com |
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| 06:20.35 | jair_11 | deadcat, in that site is a link with the instructions very simple |
| 06:20.48 | jair_11 | deadcat, ./flashinstaller or something like that |
| 06:20.50 | mgoetze | mhall: "that text stuff" |
| 06:21.04 | deadcat | jair_11: thats were i got them from |
| 06:21.33 | chemaja | mhall: "lion", says one web search hit... |
| 06:21.38 | jair_11 | ok |
| 06:21.45 | jair_11 | deadcat, so then it should work |
| 06:21.55 | jair_11 | deadcat, do this please |
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| 06:22.16 | jair_11 | deadcat, in the firefox browser type: about:plugins |
| 06:22.27 | SperMite | Is there a way where you can burn cds using the terminal? |
| 06:22.35 | jair_11 | deadcat, and check if you get flash there |
| 06:22.36 | jm_ | of course there is |
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| 06:22.50 | deadcat | k |
| 06:22.51 | Eclipser | SperMite, cdrecord |
| 06:23.02 | jair_11 | deadcat, how do you have the firefox 1.5 if Stable debian do not have it ready yet in the regular repo. |
| 06:23.29 | IdahoEv | i had a power outage yesterday. When i came back up, exim is not running, and /etc/init.d/exim4 returns "Starting MTA: /etc/init.d/exim4: line 56: start-stop-daemon: command not found". what the heck does that mean? |
| 06:23.35 | deadcat | jair_11: i use unstable |
| 06:23.48 | deadcat | shockwave flash enable, future splash player enable. |
| 06:24.09 | mgoetze | IdahoEv: it means you lost an important file |
| 06:24.24 | IdahoEv | mgoetze: how should I go about recovering it? |
| 06:24.49 | IdahoEv | stupid thing is, i shut down safely with a UPS, there shouldn't be a problem. :-( |
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| 06:25.24 | mgoetze | IdahoEv: reinstall dpkg |
| 06:25.38 | deadcat | jair_11: could this be stupid adblock? i am pretty sure adblock is broken in 1.5 since it wont add anything to the list. and it has that flashblock thing enabled |
| 06:25.47 | IdahoEv | su |
| 06:25.56 | IdahoEv | oops .. wrong window. |
| 06:26.02 | liable | IdahoEv: hrm, most init scripts use start-stop daemon, so you would think if it was missing/corrupt then lots of shit wouldnt start, check the script. |
| 06:26.04 | mgoetze | IdahoEv: (apt-get install --reinstall dpkg) |
| 06:26.21 | liable | why dpkg? |
| 06:26.32 | jair_11 | deadcat, ohh maybe |
| 06:26.41 | mgoetze | liable: because that's the package that contains start-stop-daemon |
| 06:26.44 | jair_11 | deadcat, disable adblock |
| 06:27.01 | jair_11 | deadcat, I use stable 3.1 |
| 06:27.10 | jair_11 | it should work in unstable. |
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| 06:27.32 | IdahoEv | mgoetze: i did "aptitude reinstall exim4" and it worked afterwards.... guess dpkg wasn't the problem |
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| 06:28.04 | mgoetze | IdahoEv: ok, then it was an error message produced by start-stop-daemon itself, hard to tell :) |
| 06:28.23 | IdahoEv | mgoetze: thanks for the help muchly |
| 06:28.25 | liable | mgoetze: hrm, never woulda guessed that actually.. :) |
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| 06:28.50 | mgoetze | liable: yeah surprised me too :) |
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| 06:34.33 | SperMite | Does this look right? /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 06:34.57 | Azar | cdrom0? interesting |
| 06:35.06 | SperMite | default |
| 06:35.11 | SperMite | getting mount: can't find /median/cdrom1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 06:35.15 | Azar | you have more than one cdrom ? |
| 06:35.18 | SperMite | opps |
| 06:35.30 | jm_ | median!=media |
| 06:35.46 | Azar | hi jm_ .... |
| 06:36.08 | Cyis | ouch... my wife is watching some scary shit on the tv... american idols next season of bad auditions :) |
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| 06:36.32 | SperMite | getting mount: can't find /median/cdrom0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab thats what im getting |
| 06:36.41 | SperMite | mount: No medium found |
| 06:36.54 | Azar | SperMite: it is not /median.... |
| 06:37.10 | Azar | jm_ pointed that out to you |
| 06:37.36 | SperMite | /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 06:37.36 | SperMite | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.46 | IdahoEv | does anyone know a good guaranteed-to-bounce email address for testing whether my MTA handles bounces correctly? |
| 06:37.49 | Azar | SperMite: what if you try /media/cdrom will hurt? |
| 06:37.54 | TBBle | SperMite: There isn't an 'n' in that line. |
| 06:38.12 | TBBle | In the mountpoint, at least. |
| 06:38.41 | SperMite | i know. there not suppose to be a n =0 | |
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| 06:44.03 | karsten | Hrm. |
| 06:44.42 | karsten | How would I change all occurances of, say, a sequence of [a-z][-a-z]* to a string of dashes? |
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| 06:46.42 | jm_ | karsten: as in the same amount of dashes? |
| 06:46.43 | Piranha | s/[a-z][-a-z]*/"-" x (len ($&))/eg, if we're talking Perl. |
| 06:46.55 | Piranha | Or length. I don't really do Perl. |
| 06:47.02 | jm_ | yeah length() |
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| 06:49.21 | Piranha | Python: re.sub (r'[a-z][-a-z]*', lambda s: "-" * len (s.group (0)), input) |
| 06:49.22 | myren | how do i mange routing so that a lookup for ftp.us.debian.org goes to ftp.debian.org? ftp.us.debian.org isnt responding... |
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| 06:49.48 | Piranha | I felt obligated to do the latter. Perl does indeed seem to have its moments. |
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| 06:49.58 | dbi | Myon: just use another mirror |
| 06:50.00 | miki | hello, its me again :) |
| 06:50.14 | myren | then i'd have to restart aptitude |
| 06:50.27 | myren | its up now, yay |
| 06:50.31 | Guerin | myren: look up the ip address ot ftp. and make an entry in /etc/hosts for ftp.us. to point to it |
| 06:50.33 | miki | i had one had with winxp and linux on diff partitions, but i was forced to resintall winxp and now i dont see GRUB anymore |
| 06:50.41 | miki | one HDD ** |
| 06:50.43 | Guerin | myren: ftp.us is a round-robin |
| 06:50.57 | Guerin | myren: /msg dpkg fixmbr |
| 06:51.00 | myren | Guerin: thats much simpler than the iptables hackery i was going to run |
| 06:51.02 | Guerin | fuckinghell |
| 06:51.08 | Guerin | miki: /msg dpkg fixmbr |
| 06:51.21 | miki | thank |
| 06:51.33 | myren | Guerin: I dont suppose you know any of the details on how DNS does round robin... I'm curious why it would not-go for a number of attempts |
| 06:51.53 | Piranha | Cached answers. |
| 06:51.58 | Guerin | myren: dig ftp.us.d.o; then try each ip |
| 06:52.14 | Guerin | myren: one or more may be down, or affected by connectivity issues at your or their end |
| 06:52.15 | Piranha | ftp.us.debian.org. 3600 IN A 128.101.80.133 |
| 06:52.17 | Piranha | ... |
| 06:52.19 | Guerin | or goodness knows what else |
| 06:52.32 | Piranha | The response is cached for one hour by your nearest DNS cache. |
| 06:52.53 | Guerin | there's that, too. |
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| 06:53.50 | myren | The resolver isnt linked to the kernel well enough to failover to the next item if current ip isnt responsive? |
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| 06:54.05 | Piranha | I don't know the details of how a particular address of the set of A records is selected. I imagine the C library doesn't provide enough abstraction, so some programs would naïvely choose the first, and others would choose one at random. |
| 06:54.10 | myren | I thought part of the point of round robin DNS was redunancy; if one system fials it can just go to another |
| 06:54.29 | myren | yeah i guess it is program's responsibility |
| 06:54.48 | Piranha | myren: The kernel doesn't deal in DNS names. |
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| 06:57.19 | raden | ok in my xinet swat is running but when i goto port 901 i get a directory treee any ideas ? |
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| 06:58.57 | soup | any reason why wvdial/wvdialconf is saying /dev/ttyS0 is busy? I can echo to it and the modem flashes. I don't have any other program running that's using it |
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| 07:00.46 | dbi | soup: is there a lock file laying in /var/run ? |
| 07:00.55 | juice` | does anyone know any SIMPLE network traffic status? i just want to know how much bytes are beign transfered from and to my box on daily/monthly basis |
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| 07:01.35 | dbi | juice`: tried ipac[-ng] ? |
| 07:01.46 | tarzeau | soup: check fuser -k or lsof |
| 07:01.49 | SerajewelKS | juice`: apt-cache search network statistics #shows quite a few options |
| 07:01.53 | juice` | i don't need mrtg/rddtool 'ipac-ng - IP Accounting for iptables' ? |
| 07:01.59 | juice` | oh |
| 07:02.01 | juice` | thanks |
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| 07:02.26 | juice` | i was looking for 'traffic' |
| 07:02.40 | jm_ | I use iptables accounting rules and some perl script to collect data, all trivial |
| 07:02.45 | SerajewelKS | juice`: then add 'traffic' to the search |
| 07:02.46 | karsten | jm_: Yeah, same length. I'm just being braindead. |
| 07:02.49 | jm_ | and another script to generate reports |
| 07:02.53 | karsten | jm_: ... nevermind. |
| 07:02.55 | threat | is "ipac-ng" any good? |
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| 07:03.12 | dbi | threat: sure. ipac-ng "works" :) |
| 07:03.14 | juice` | SerajewelKS: no no, i mean i already looked for 'traffic' and couldnt find it so your tip is helpful |
| 07:03.15 | Azar | juice`: myself I try learning iptables, there is indeed a counter for it |
| 07:03.24 | Azar | but I did not understand it yet |
| 07:03.41 | juice` | hmm i wrote very very simple firewall rules to iptables, i didnt know it can monitor traffic :) |
| 07:03.42 | Azar | juice`: there is also logs rules |
| 07:03.57 | juice` | what options exactly are for monitoring? i will read a tutorial and try ti set it up |
| 07:04.00 | SerajewelKS | juice`: oh, i see |
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| 07:04.04 | Azar | logs and counters do but I do not know yet how to do them |
| 07:04.47 | juice` | jm_: which options do you use if you don't mind telling :) just a clue so i can look futher |
| 07:05.04 | Azar | juice`: this is one of the 8 tutorials I study: http://wwwlinuxguruz.com/iptables/howto/iptables-HOWTO-5.html |
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| 07:05.20 | Azar | juice, I saw them but I did not understand much |
| 07:05.33 | Azar | on some other people's scripts |
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| 07:05.55 | jm_ | juice`: from the man page -- The target can be a user-defined chain (other than the one this rule is in), one of the special builtin targets which decide the fate of the packet immediately, or an extension (see EXTENSIONS below). |
| 07:06.00 | raden | ok opera gets a directory tree firefox gets S.W.A.T |
| 07:06.29 | soup | tarzeau: I was missing the /var/lock directory. wvdialconf and wvdial report the ttyS* as being busy when it cannot create a lock file or one's already there |
| 07:06.44 | jm_ | juice`: If this option is omitted in a rule, then matching the rule will have no effect on the packet's fate, but the counters on the rule will be incremented. |
| 07:06.49 | jm_ | juice`: this last part is what matters |
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| 07:07.52 | jm_ | juice`: once you have this it's easy to progres - I have a cron job that runs at 23:59 each day, which collects the counters, writes them to a file and zeros them, reporting script then reads this file to generate reports |
| 07:08.18 | Azar | something about --log-level and --log-prefix |
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| 07:08.48 | mhall | gpg has a sweet commandline interface, and if you are in X it's smart enough to open the picture attached to the key, how cool |
| 07:09.34 | ootput | any of you people know how to speed up xterm/urxvt's scroll-refresh speed with aliased fonts? |
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| 07:10.33 | juice` | jm_: thank you |
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| 07:10.52 | miki | aww, i cant update grub.. after doing alt-f2 im prompted into command line, but mounting wont work |
| 07:10.55 | deadcat | which file in the firefox dir contains the saved passwords? i want to copy it to my new firefox dir. |
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| 07:11.24 | miki | mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mfs says no file or dir |
| 07:11.36 | jm_ | deadcat: formhistory.dat looks promising |
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| 07:11.57 | deadcat | k |
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| 07:13.09 | karsten | deadcat: secmod.db looks vaguely suspicious as well. |
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| 07:13.30 | deadcat | karsten: ok. i had to mv my firefox dir because nothing seems to work anymore |
| 07:13.51 | miki | vould anyone give me again command to ask dpkg how to reinstall grub after installing windows on linux ? |
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| 07:14.14 | jm_ | man grub-install |
| 07:14.28 | karsten | deadcat: Look for anything with a numeric name ending in .s. |
| 07:14.39 | karsten | Eg: 123456789.s |
| 07:14.55 | miki | jm_: there was better link, when dpkg had full guide =\ |
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| 07:15.02 | miki | im guessing that i typed smth wrong |
| 07:15.14 | karsten | deadcat: That's what I'm finding in galeon's directory, it's very nearly plaintext. I don't do much in the way of password sites in Firefox. |
| 07:15.35 | karsten | miki: 'grub-instal' |
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| 07:15.39 | karsten | miki: 'grub-install' |
| 07:15.42 | jm_ | miki: /msg dpkg install grub |
| 07:15.59 | jm_ | but this is not any different than reading grub-install man page |
| 07:16.04 | miki | jm_: nah i want info how to reinstall |
| 07:16.06 | deadcat | karsten: i have some passwd that i dont keep record but its in firefox.. like dynamic dns (= |
| 07:16.13 | karsten | deadcat: Heh. |
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| 07:16.24 | karsten | deadcat: I try to keep 'em noted somewhere. Keyring on a Palm. |
| 07:16.28 | miki | i had winxp and linux on same hdd diff partition, i reinstalled winxp and grub dissapeareed |
| 07:16.57 | CcSsNET | well duh |
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| 07:17.00 | karsten | miki: Boot from rescue media. Re-install grub. |
| 07:17.07 | jm_ | there's no reinstall, GRUB only has install option |
| 07:17.24 | Froo | WinXP wrote over the mbr - Master Boot Record. |
| 07:17.35 | karsten | miki: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/325 http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html |
| 07:17.49 | miki | jm_: someone gave me link to dpkg command with full guide how to do that in my situation, it told me to run cd then do alt-f2, then mount hd, chroot hdd and thne command for installing grub again |
| 07:18.09 | miki | problem is that i cant mount, either guide was bad or i misstyped smth |
| 07:18.19 | jm_ | miki: /msg dpkg fixmbr |
| 07:18.32 | karsten | miki: How about you tell us how the mount failed. |
| 07:18.39 | raden | there a way to view my CPU temp from KDE ? |
| 07:18.41 | karsten | miki: ... and technically, you don't need to mount anything. |
| 07:18.44 | deadcat | karsten: jm_ its in 56494808.s for me |
| 07:18.47 | choqi | hiiii |
| 07:18.48 | miki | it says file or directory not exist |
| 07:18.54 | karsten | raden: apt-cache search sensors |
| 07:19.01 | jrf | choqi: not yet |
| 07:19.09 | miki | "mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mfs" my comand |
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| 07:19.19 | karsten | deadcat: Different here. |
| 07:19.27 | karsten | miki: ... and the error? |
| 07:19.44 | miki | File or directory does not exist. |
| 07:19.45 | deadcat | karsten: doh. except its not regconizing )= |
| 07:19.46 | karsten | miki: That's likely going to be your freshly-installed XP system, if you did defaults there. |
| 07:19.52 | liable | miki: with the install cd its usually along the lines of /dev/ide/bus0/target0/host0/lun0/part? (order may be wrong :) |
| 07:20.02 | karsten | miki: ls -l /dev/hda1 |
| 07:20.11 | unforgettableid | hi |
| 07:20.22 | jm_ | miki: cat /proc/partitions will show the device name |
| 07:20.28 | miki | kk |
| 07:20.37 | karsten | miki: ... does that exist? If not, create it: mknod /dev/hda1 c 3 1; chown root.disk /dev/hda1; chmod 660 /dev/hda1 |
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| 07:20.53 | unforgettableid | liable: i always figure the devicename out using tab completion |
| 07:20.58 | karsten | liable: Should be able to use short device names as well. |
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| 07:21.02 | karsten | unforgettableid: ;-) |
| 07:21.02 | liable | unforgettableid: yeah me too. |
| 07:21.03 | miki | karsten,. brb |
| 07:21.16 | unforgettableid | :) |
| 07:21.20 | karsten | unforgettableid: Dittos idiots^Wpeople with really long IRC nicks. |
| 07:21.23 | liable | karsten: never been able to do it with a debian disk. |
| 07:21.27 | jrf | heh |
| 07:21.38 | karsten | liable: OK. |
| 07:21.38 | unforgettableid | u mean me? |
| 07:21.45 | karsten | unforgettableid: Who else ;-) |
| 07:21.48 | prjktdtnt | how do you find out if you can get the temp info from the processor |
| 07:21.49 | unforgettableid | oh :) |
| 07:21.49 | prjktdtnt | ? |
| 07:22.07 | jrf | iam2cool2justusemynameorinitials> :) |
| 07:22.19 | unfid | no, its my global userid |
| 07:22.36 | karsten | prjktdtnt: Usually you can find out in your BIOS screen. The lm-sensors package should be able to tel you too. |
| 07:22.40 | slara | firefox hangs when i tried to download anything on Etch. does anybody have the same problem? |
| 07:22.40 | jrf | ah, well, initials or something succinct always works :) |
| 07:22.43 | unfid | :) plus my initials are probably taken |
| 07:22.49 | karsten | unfid: You should just shorten it to "forgettableid" |
| 07:22.52 | jrf | fair enough |
| 07:23.08 | slara | sorry, when i try to... |
| 07:23.35 | liable | slara: check the bts (bug tracking system) |
| 07:23.43 | karsten | dhwz: ...and if you keep that up, the vorlons will escort you to the nearest airlock, quoting poetry. |
| 07:23.58 | prjktdtnt | lm-sensors is having problems |
| 07:24.05 | jrf | interesting, apt-cache only gets 3 items for blender, anyone here ever used blender? I am attempting to work with a lightwave pal |
| 07:24.21 | dhwz | slara, you could always try alternatives like mozilla-browser or konqueror or dillo |
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| 07:24.47 | dhwz | darn, it was taken |
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| 07:25.48 | miki | well, not working still :( |
| 07:26.08 | miki | ls -l /dev/hda1 gives me only some Busybox v1.00 message |
| 07:26.16 | dhwz | CPAN question: is it practical to never run perl -MCPAN as root? |
| 07:26.22 | miki | cat /proc/patitions wont work, i must mount my file system first |
| 07:26.23 | dhwz | miki, what was the msg |
| 07:26.37 | jm_ | no it will work ... |
| 07:26.42 | miki | but when im trying to do it it says: mounting failed: no such file or dir |
| 07:27.11 | miki | jm_: i typed .cat/proc..... but there was no reaction from linux |
| 07:27.14 | dhwz | miki, sorry but what was the full mount command u typed? |
| 07:27.32 | jm_ | miki: typing random commands doesn't help |
| 07:27.38 | miki | mount - ext2 /dev/disk /dsk |
| 07:27.50 | miki | mount -t*** |
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| 07:27.52 | weissi | miki: mount -t ext2 /dev/disk /dsk |
| 07:27.53 | karsten | miki: mount /proc if it's not mounted: mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 07:28.11 | dhwz | or should I ask on some perl channel? |
| 07:28.40 | jm_ | don't use perl -MCPAN - you'll end up fucking up your Perl installation |
| 07:28.41 | miki | this should be actually very simple(solution to my eror) |
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| 07:29.04 | dhwz | jm_, i doubt Parse::MediaWikiDump is packaged for Debian |
| 07:29.11 | dhwz | jm_, any other way?? |
| 07:29.13 | liable | miki: mount /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /dsk; chroot /dsk; grub-install |
| 07:29.24 | nvz | could somebody point me at a tutorial or documentation on making debian cds? the debian-cd package seems to contain over two dozen scripts and very little explanation of what to do. I need to make a custom install cd with certain packages for a friend who doesnt have internet |
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| 07:29.54 | dhwz | nvz, you could always download the dvds off bittorrent, if you have access to a dvd-r |
| 07:30.08 | jm_ | dhwz: apt-cache show dh-make-perl |
| 07:30.11 | prjktdtnt | for some reason even after running sensors-detect it still isnt working (and modprobing) could it just be that my Mobo/CPU isnt supported? |
| 07:30.33 | jm_ | prjktdtnt: do you even know if it has sensors on-board? |
| 07:30.49 | miki | fine, i brb after restart |
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| 07:31.01 | nvz | dhwz: sure, but he doesnt have a dvd rom, and that would take 10x as long as making a install cd with enough software for him to simply replace his pirated copy of winxp that cant even do what he wants.. which is simply rip cds to mp3 and transfer them to his cell phone |
| 07:31.03 | dhwz | miki, |
| 07:31.05 | prjktdtnt | i dont know actually thats kinda what i was trying to find out but everyone kept asking the same questions and i didn't know what else to ask |
| 07:31.23 | miki | ? |
| 07:31.26 | dhwz | do you have a 2nd pc somewhere that you can keep irc running on? |
| 07:31.28 | jm_ | people told you to look in BIOS first |
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| 07:31.43 | miki | dhwz nah :( |
| 07:31.48 | dhwz | oh :( |
| 07:31.51 | nvz | SimonRaven: a what? |
| 07:31.57 | miki | but i got net on debian and windows both |
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| 07:32.12 | karsten | SimonRaven: Parse error. |
| 07:32.20 | karsten | SimonRaven: "enjoy" "cigarette"? |
| 07:32.21 | prjktdtnt | jm_: what setting in there? i know the bios menu when i boot up is showing me the temps and the MOBO cames with winblows tools for overclocking and temp monitoring |
| 07:32.25 | SimonRaven | kahnienkeha:ka if you prefer |
| 07:32.44 | jm_ | prjktdtnt: so it has them - which board is this? which kernel are you using? |
| 07:33.04 | prjktdtnt | 2.6.14-2-amd64-k8 |
| 07:33.29 | prjktdtnt | is the kern and the MOBO is the soltek sl-k8tpro-939 |
| 07:33.50 | jm_ | load i2c_isa i2c_dev hwmon modules and then run sensors-detect |
| 07:33.51 | dhwz | mkiki, also, |
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| 07:34.08 | dhwz | do you have a local university with a linux user group or "computer club"? |
| 07:34.09 | weissi | prjktdtnt: have you tried `cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature` ? |
| 07:34.46 | prjktdtnt | cat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature: No such file or directory |
| 07:35.00 | dhwz | nvz, you could always try emailing the scripts' writer if you have extra time to wait. :) |
| 07:36.05 | nvz | dhwz: not really. I asked about this yesturday and someone recommended the debian-cd package.. I needed thgis like last week. |
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| 07:36.38 | dhwz | oh :) |
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| 07:36.58 | liable | nvz: you making a custom cd? |
| 07:37.07 | nvz | dhwz: I got netinstalls with base I just need some way to make a cd with deps for what I know he needs since he has no internet. he will need a easy to use desktop interface, grip, cdparanoia, lame, and all the deps |
| 07:37.52 | prjktdtnt | HA GOT IT!!! |
| 07:37.57 | dhwz | nvz, isnt it pretty likely ubuntu comes with all that? and maybe debian cd1+2 would too |
| 07:38.01 | prjktdtnt | didn't have the acpid package |
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| 07:38.10 | dhwz | prj, cool |
| 07:38.18 | prjktdtnt | thx for all the help guys |
| 07:38.19 | nvz | liable: he wants to rip his cds to mp3 or aoc which his cell phone supports and then transfer them.. he has winxp and its going to expire cause he borrowed it and has no activation. I just want to spew a line of packags he will need for this task and make him a cd to install debian |
| 07:38.26 | prjktdtnt | i'm out |
| 07:38.27 | ootput | any of you people know how to speed up xterm/urxvt's scroll-refresh speed with aliased fonts? |
| 07:38.37 | dhwz | jm_, Found: Parse-MediaWikiDump 0.31 ... eeds the following debian packages: libxml-parser-perl |
| 07:38.44 | nvz | liable: I dont want to have to burn a whole cd set just to get all the packages he needs and 10,000 he doesnt |
| 07:38.49 | dhwz | jm_, its already installed tho |
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| 07:39.10 | nvz | dhwz: I am _not_ suporting an ubuntu installation |
| 07:39.15 | dhwz | :) |
| 07:39.23 | nvz | I know debian, I have used it for 5+ yrears |
| 07:39.24 | dhwz | ok but debian1+2? |
| 07:39.25 | liable | nvz: cd1 and apt-zip for the rest? |
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| 07:39.55 | littleball | hello, i have a DRM protected wma song, is it possible to convert it to mp3 file? |
| 07:40.27 | nvz | liable: I already have netinstalls that have base.. I just need to know how to get all the packages he will need into a repo format. I dont know _ALL_ packages he will need, I only know about 4 of them I need something that will resolve all deps and build me a cd repo |
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| 07:40.34 | weissi | littleball: connect your line-out to you line-in, record and play it ;-) |
| 07:40.35 | dhwz | jm_, oops now i see the debian/ dir it made. |
| 07:40.37 | dhwz | hi stew |
| 07:40.41 | nvz | liable: HOW is the keyword |
| 07:40.47 | littleball | weissi, the quality is bad |
| 07:40.53 | nvz | liable: debian-cd should do it, but how I have no idea |
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| 07:41.30 | weissi | littleball: no digital in/out ? |
| 07:41.57 | weissi | littleball: can xmms play it (it has a disk-writer plugin)? |
| 07:42.00 | dhwz | littleball, is the quality *really* that bad? |
| 07:42.02 | dhwz | :) |
| 07:42.07 | littleball | i am using thinkpad t41 |
| 07:42.25 | littleball | i am not sure whether it is digitin/out or not |
| 07:42.30 | Azar | drm protected are cool they come in with extra rootkit for free too |
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| 07:42.49 | dhwz | Azar, but the rootkit only works on windows :( lol |
| 07:43.01 | Azar | really, well try it |
| 07:43.05 | nvz | liable: I am real close to just installing a fresh system at my house then burning that to an image cause I dont know how to just type grip, cdparanioa, lame, [kde|gnome] and get a cd that I can use as an apt-source to install those with all deps |
| 07:43.22 | dhwz | how do i get Meta+d and Meta+bksp to work in xterm? |
| 07:43.27 | littleball | Azar, do you mean rootkit can decode it? |
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| 07:43.41 | nvz | thats a lot of extra work too.. cause then I have to install twice basicially |
| 07:43.49 | Azar | on another thought, if is for windows, and is drm I guess will only play on a wmplayer... |
| 07:44.05 | weissi | littleball: I think not, I know the t42p and it has no digi-in/outs |
| 07:44.10 | Azar | and and yes is calling home too |
| 07:44.11 | dhwz | littleball, he was referring to http://wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Sony_rootkit_controversy if I remember the URL right |
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| 07:44.16 | mikol | arght |
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| 07:44.31 | weissi | littleball: are you able to play it in linux?? |
| 07:44.36 | dhwz | littleball, it was a joke. |
| 07:44.38 | littleball | cannot |
| 07:44.39 | liable | nvz: i dont even see apt-cd on my box. anyway i spose you know what you want, but cd1 and apt-zip still looks promising to me.. |
| 07:44.40 | sep | nvz, coudnt you use burn out the .deb files and transfer them to the apt cache/archive on the target computer. you could also include a file that you could dpkg --set-selections on.. or was this suposed to be a custom installer ? |
| 07:44.43 | littleball | i am using mplayer |
| 07:44.48 | mikol | "mount -l proc proc /proc" gives me: block device required |
| 07:44.59 | littleball | if you want to try,i can email you the song |
| 07:45.05 | weissi | mikol: mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 07:45.18 | mikol | mount /dev/ide/host0/bus0~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ gives me same error as always,: mounting failed: No such file or dir |
| 07:45.38 | karsten | mikol: '-t' to specify filesystem type on your /proc mount. |
| 07:45.41 | mikol | lol |
| 07:45.43 | karsten | mikol: Not '-l' |
| 07:45.44 | mikol | im dumb |
| 07:45.46 | dhwz | littleball, try one of the cracking channels if nobody here can help you, maybe #2600 |
| 07:45.50 | mikol | then let me restart again :P |
| 07:46.01 | weissi | littleball: if you're unable to play the song in linux, this is probably the wrong channel, I think |
| 07:46.09 | jm_ | mikol might end up with a working system in about 8 hours time I reckon |
| 07:46.10 | littleball | ok. |
| 07:46.14 | littleball | doesn't matter |
| 07:46.14 | dhwz | but really, lb, consider line-out to line-in. |
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| 07:46.22 | dhwz | the sound isn't that bad. |
| 07:46.24 | liable | mikol: you did make the dir to mount to? yes? |
| 07:46.30 | littleball | dhwz, i will try line-out/in |
| 07:46.33 | nvz | sep: I dont care how it happens I just want to know how I can install him a damn system, that rips mp3s to his phone :P |
| 07:46.34 | sep | nvz, and i supose you have read thisone.. http://wiki.debian.org/?DebianCustomCD |
| 07:46.35 | dhwz | how do i get Meta+d and Meta+bksp to work in xterm? |
| 07:46.57 | Azar | what scroll up/down? |
| 07:47.02 | weissi | littleball: perhaps you can find a win32-soundcard driver which writes raw PCM to disk?!? |
| 07:47.06 | dhwz | no |
| 07:47.12 | sep | nvz, ohh that i have no idea about. my phone is only useable to talk in.. :) |
| 07:47.23 | dhwz | weissi, winamp can write raw wav |
| 07:47.30 | dhwz | Azar, delete forward and back |
| 07:47.31 | nvz | sep: lame is not in debian, and most of the other packages he will need may not be on the first cd or so.. so thats a waste of time and media to burn.. I already have a netinstall with base that can install a running debian system.. he just doesnt have net to install the rest. |
| 07:47.34 | weissi | littleball: so use winamp |
| 07:47.40 | littleball | anyone here has digit line-in/out here? |
| 07:47.46 | Azar | uh arrow keys? |
| 07:47.51 | dhwz | no |
| 07:47.57 | dhwz | delete word fw and back :) |
| 07:48.04 | weissi | littleball: can you play it in winamp??? |
| 07:48.04 | Azar | in an editor? |
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| 07:48.12 | dhwz | no on bash prompt |
| 07:48.23 | Azar | damn I just use plain arrow keys |
| 07:48.29 | nvz | sep: so the problem here is telling his freshly installed debian system without net that I want to install grip, cdparanoia, lame, and a desktop environment, and it being able to fetch those packages and all deps |
| 07:48.30 | jm_ | dhwz: esc-d, ctrl-w, ... |
| 07:48.34 | sep | nvz, well that customcd url tell you how to dl and moe the packages you need. and my idea of just putting packages into the archive would also work. |
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| 07:49.08 | nvz | sep: yes, but I dont know what packages I need. I only know at best 4 of the 500+ I will need |
| 07:49.13 | littleball | i have cdparanoia etc installed. |
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| 07:49.26 | jm_ | nvz: apt-rdepends |
| 07:49.38 | dhwz | hmm, esc-d works, although i dont see why meta+d doesn't work and just gives me umlaut-a = ä. |
| 07:49.49 | sep | nvz,, now this is why i carry a debian mirror on a usb drive allways :) |
| 07:49.56 | dbi | nvz: any chance to use DVD? that probably contains everything needed |
| 07:50.13 | dhwz | nvz, or apt-cache rdepends |
| 07:50.15 | jm_ | that's because it doesn't treat meta as escape, set metaSendsEscape to TRUE (works in xterm, others may have a different setting) |
| 07:50.16 | nvz | sep: you have a 10GB+ usb drive? |
| 07:50.25 | sep | nvz, i have a 500G usb harddrive |
| 07:50.28 | dhwz | dbi, friend lacks a dvd drive |
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| 07:50.59 | sep | not a memorystick no.. :) |
| 07:50.59 | nvz | dbi: I have a dvd burner but the whole point is I don not want to waste 2 weeks d/l and burning a dvd when he doesnt even have a dvd drive to read it, and he only needs about 500 of those 15,000 packages |
| 07:51.06 | jm_ | apt-cache rdepends won't show it |
| 07:51.09 | nvz | dbi: its a total waste of time d/l and burning all that |
| 07:51.23 | nvz | sep: oh, a HD :P |
| 07:51.47 | dbi | nvz: you bet you can determine the needed packages + dependencies in less time :) |
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| 07:51.59 | phycho | hey guys |
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| 07:52.09 | nvz | I am just going to have to tell him to give me his fucking hd so I can do it online with my pc |
| 07:52.12 | phycho | anyone know what virtual server implementation allows ipv6? |
| 07:52.16 | nvz | this is all too aggrivating |
| 07:52.23 | dhwz | nvz, he can buy premade dvds e.g. off ebay for cheap if he wants his ringtones so badly. :) |
| 07:52.25 | liable | nvz: probably the easiest thing. |
| 07:52.29 | sep | nvz, deboostrap a dir on your own harddrive. chroot it. and apt-get -d install all the packages you want. the archive in that chroot should now contain all the packages and dependencies needed burn that to a cd |
| 07:52.43 | liable | dhwz: no marillat stuff though.. |
| 07:53.01 | mikol | well, not working: "mount -t proc proc /proc" = Device or resource busy. |
| 07:53.01 | dhwz | liable, thats true |
| 07:53.02 | Azar | dunno but I already see ipv6 on mine up n running |
| 07:53.17 | mikol | nick miki |
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| 07:53.27 | phycho | azar - any ideas what virtual server software it is using? |
| 07:53.54 | miki | well, not working: "mount -t proc proc /proc" = Device or resource busy. |
| 07:54.07 | Azar | phycho: um no, I do not have idea Im not administering my box, a friend does |
| 07:54.19 | Azar | I mean the server stuff side |
| 07:54.26 | phycho | ah |
| 07:54.41 | phycho | i want to run a virtual server hosting box |
| 07:54.42 | Azar | but I can see it running on tcp6 |
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| 07:54.46 | phycho | need to find out what runs ipv6. |
| 07:54.51 | phycho | vserver doesnt |
| 07:55.04 | Azar | netstat -tan ? |
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| 07:55.21 | dhwz | jm_, in what file do i put the line XTerm.vt100.metaSendsEscape=true? |
| 07:55.23 | phycho | i cant do anything yet, the box isnt up |
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| 07:56.36 | tziku | hello, any software who show me computer performances (graphic interface) in ssh (i'm ussing putty)(like iptraf, mc etc.) ? |
| 07:56.48 | jm_ | dhwz: ~/.Xresources |
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| 07:57.17 | oskie | what's the best(tm) way of finding out whether hardware component X works in linux? |
| 07:57.33 | oskie | e.g. Intel PRO/1000PT Dual Port Server Adapter (PCI-express 4x dual port NIC) |
| 07:57.42 | jm_ | oskie: you mean if it's supported? |
| 07:57.59 | nvz | dhwz: its not ringtones.. he actually has a media player and a removable drive |
| 07:58.18 | dhwz | oskie, did you try the e1000 driver and saw if it worked or not? thats what i (nonexpert)'d do first |
| 07:58.18 | oskie | jm_: if it's usuable... a subset of supported :) but yes. |
| 07:58.31 | jm_ | oskie: get its PCI ID, check if any driver knows about it |
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| 07:58.40 | oskie | dhwz: well I haven't bought it yet |
| 07:58.44 | dhwz | oh :) |
| 07:58.56 | colinsmith1940 | : GPG error: http://debian.tu-bs.de stable-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FB1A399A71409CDF |
| 07:58.56 | colinsmith1940 | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 07:58.59 | weissi | oskie: http://cdb.novell.com/?LANG=en_UK and google work good |
| 07:59.02 | oskie | jm_: ok but I bet intel doesn't place such IDs on their web site |
| 07:59.03 | colinsmith1940 | how do I fix that? |
| 07:59.14 | dhwz | colinsmith, i bet youre running unstable or testing? |
| 07:59.21 | colinsmith1940 | testing |
| 07:59.29 | colinsmith1940 | and its not against the law to ask a question about it |
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| 07:59.43 | jm_ | oskie: well with Intel it's not so problematic, because they have their driver in the kernel, so their web page should say if it works in Linux or not |
| 07:59.45 | dhwz | i know. i run testing. im having problems w sigverification too. |
| 07:59.48 | colinsmith1940 | except in china |
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| 08:00.38 | miki | any help with this: "mount -t proc proc /proc" = Device or resource busy. |
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| 08:00.57 | tralala | I have a programme that I want to start every time a user fires X session and kill it when the session ends. I have figured out the starting part - /etc/X11/Xsession.d, but I can't figure out the killing part. Any ideas? |
| 08:01.09 | dhwz | cs, (warning: im not an expert at this) maybe try apt-get install <your_package's_name> --allow-unauthenticated |
| 08:01.37 | ctx144k | hi |
| 08:01.40 | dhwz | hi |
| 08:01.48 | jm_ | let's check e1000 in 2.6.15 |
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| 08:02.58 | oskie | it's got a 82571EB controller |
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| 08:03.19 | tziku | !tell tziku about performances |
| 08:03.21 | ctx144k | tralala: write a little daeomn-script wich controls that x11 is running, if not it create an file "/tmp/x-not-exist" |
| 08:03.25 | jm_ | yeah 2.6.15 knows about it |
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| 08:06.41 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:06.41 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 08:06.42 | jm_ | tralala: check if xsm can help you |
| 08:06.44 | dhwz | jm_, i created the file, added that line, restarted X, no luck :) but whatever. |
| 08:06.54 | aybr | my kernel still treat my sata harddisk as normal ata disk , and give me warning message say dma is turned off. what i can do |
| 08:06.59 | jm_ | dhwz: how do you start X? |
| 08:07.02 | tralala | ctx144k: this sounds interesting. The problem is that I'm using GDM so X is always running. |
| 08:07.03 | dhwz | startx |
| 08:07.08 | dhwz | im running screen. |
| 08:07.09 | tralala | jm_: checking, thanks |
| 08:07.11 | jm_ | dhwz: run "appres XTerm" |
| 08:07.51 | Azar | good day honorables.. |
| 08:08.06 | dhwz | j@dell:~$ appres XTerm|grep Escape -> *mainMenu*meta-esc*Label: Meta Sends Escape and *fontMenu*fontescape*Label: Escape Sequence |
| 08:08.24 | jm_ | it should say: XTerm.vt100.metaSendsEscape: true |
| 08:08.27 | liable | miki: are you sure that debian is hda1? |
| 08:08.38 | ctx144k | okay then u must controll if an other x11-prog (perhaps kicker, orso) always runs |
| 08:08.47 | ctx144k | that can u du with ps |
| 08:08.54 | weissi | aybr: hdparm -d 1 /dev/disk ? |
| 08:08.57 | dhwz | wow, mainMenu, i read about the xterm "menu system" once :) |
| 08:09.18 | ctx144k | or perhaps its better in c, all half second, if the file not exist |
| 08:10.19 | ctx144k | then u can test in ur secound program: if [ -f $FILE ]; then call_program; fi |
| 08:10.23 | aybr | /dev/hda using dma = 0 off |
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| 08:10.39 | dhwz | cat .Xresources gives me XTerm.vt100.metaSendsEscape=true |
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| 08:10.45 | jm_ | aybr: your SATA disk is known as hda? |
| 08:11.08 | aybr | so , what i do |
| 08:11.37 | liable | miki: mkdir /rescue && mount /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /rescue (make sure the 0's are zero's not capital o's, if debian is hda2, change it to part2) |
| 08:11.48 | jm_ | dhwz: that's irrelevant if appres doesn't show the same |
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| 08:12.13 | jm_ | and I am not sure =true syntax is the right one, I use: true |
| 08:12.16 | liable | miki: then chroot to it and run grub-install. |
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| 08:13.01 | weissi | tralala: you could use `who`, no? |
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| 08:13.32 | miki | liable: actually sec |
| 08:13.40 | miki | liable: debian might be hda2 or 3 |
| 08:13.49 | miki | liable: sience windows is hda1 imo |
| 08:13.49 | miki | lol |
| 08:14.10 | weissi | aybr: `hdparm -d 1 /dev/disk` enables dma |
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| 08:14.17 | liable | miki: so change part1, to part2 or even part3, you will know its right if you 'ls' |
| 08:14.25 | dhwz | i think ill install konsole which seems to pull in half of kde. :) |
| 08:14.31 | weissi | aybr: and `hdparm -d /dev/disk` checks if dma is enabked. |
| 08:14.55 | miki | laible: yah hda2 is linux, hda3 is linux swap |
| 08:15.39 | liable | miki: so, part2 then. copy that command and it should work, then chroot /rescue and run grub-install.. |
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| 08:15.50 | miki | liable, fine brb :) |
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| 08:16.56 | aybr | when use this command 'hdparm -d l /dev/hda' i get . l no such file or directory |
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| 08:17.16 | jm_ | aybr: it's either 0 or 1 (one), not l |
| 08:17.29 | jm_ | and without the number, it queries current setting |
| 08:17.31 | angry_andy | this place is always packed with dumb fucking nerds |
| 08:17.53 | angry_andy | i bet you guys haven't even seen a naked chick, and you're all at least 35 years old |
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| 08:18.10 | streuner | angry_andy: feel free to join and leave |
| 08:18.11 | aybr | HDIO_set_DMA faild: operation not permitted |
| 08:18.27 | weissi | angry_andy: wrong, wrong, but good bye |
| 08:18.32 | tarzeau | angry_andy: #ubuntu |
| 08:18.34 | angry_andy | speak english not everyone speaks nerd |
| 08:18.34 | tziku | any software who show me computer performances (graphic interface) in ssh (i'm ussing putty)(like iptraf, mc etc.) ? |
| 08:18.46 | tarzeau | angry_andy: fuck off |
| 08:18.48 | aybr | and i want to enable sata from boot time. |
| 08:19.01 | angry_andy | nice comeback genius |
| 08:19.11 | liable | aybr: hdparm doesnt do sata |
| 08:19.33 | weissi | aybr: oh, you've got sata :-(, sorry! |
| 08:19.33 | jm_ | what, andy missed his turn to hump sheep this week and is all aggravated? |
| 08:20.00 | liable | jm_: thats kiwis, not aussies! :) |
| 08:20.09 | jm_ | liable: kiwis tell me otherwise ;) |
| 08:20.24 | keherman | Can i give a whole other group access to the audio group via /etc/group? like, i dont want to add every user manually to the audio group |
| 08:20.35 | tarzeau | keherman: no |
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| 08:20.50 | keherman | tarzeau, so do i have to add every user manually? |
| 08:20.56 | tarzeau | keherman: no |
| 08:20.57 | liable | that was a pathetic troll. |
| 08:21.03 | jm_ | keherman: you can call a script from adduser |
| 08:21.03 | keherman | tarzeau, what is the suggested method? |
| 08:21.09 | dhwz | liable, it was |
| 08:21.17 | tarzeau | keherman: do it with a one liner |
| 08:21.19 | dhwz | couldnt someone have kicked him? |
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| 08:21.51 | tarzeau | keherman: is that all local users? |
| 08:22.03 | aybr | sata should enablem using kernel , and i do build kernel 2.6.15 for that, and it say libata version 1.2 is enabled , but still get the same problem |
| 08:22.03 | djp | i'm trying to keep a log of all install processes, using the following example, http://www.uk.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-uptodate.en.html#s-keepingalog. however when i install a package using dpkg, i get the message, dpkg: configuration error: unknown option log: Success |
| 08:22.04 | keherman | tarzeau, well they are authing over ldap |
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| 08:22.07 | dhwz | keherman, sorry, broken pipe :) |
| 08:22.09 | tarzeau | keherman: for all users do run adduser user audio drink coffeee |
| 08:22.12 | kevix | keherman: why not create a list of users and use a while loop to set the permission? |
| 08:22.21 | jm_ | aybr: libata would show the disk as /dev/sda, not /dev/hda |
| 08:22.31 | tarzeau | kevix: wouldn't for loop be more logical? |
| 08:22.40 | deadcat | is muttng config still the same as mutt or completely diff? |
| 08:22.48 | keherman | tarzeau, users are added all the time though, so i have to update it everytime i add a new user? |
| 08:22.52 | littleball | helo, who can help me to block a few IP addresses? I forget the usage of iptables already. it is tedious. Who just passme one or two lines? |
| 08:23.06 | tarzeau | keherman: see what jm_ said |
| 08:23.12 | kevix | tarzeau: I made A suggestion, I dont always optimze before typing x-) |
| 08:23.23 | keherman | tarzeau, yeah i see ... but i dont like it!!! |
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| 08:23.25 | keherman | lol |
| 08:23.26 | mikol | a |
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| 08:23.39 | tarzeau | littleball: /usr/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -s $1 -j DROP |
| 08:23.44 | SOLARMASTER | If you are bored of IRC, take time to join my game at : http://sre.servegame.com, I need some beta-testers who like strategics webgames (Its a port/clone of SRE[SOLAR REALMS ELITE]), come and play |
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| 08:23.47 | mikol | liable: still part2 didnt solve my problem |
| 08:23.53 | tarzeau | keherman: make a different adduser wrapper script |
| 08:23.54 | liable | mikol: error? |
| 08:23.58 | littleball | tarzeau, $1 refers to ip address, right? |
| 08:24.01 | tarzeau | keherman: and use that instead, or tell your users to do so |
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| 08:24.03 | tarzeau | littleball: yes |
| 08:24.04 | mikol | No such file or directory. |
| 08:24.09 | littleball | thans.let me try |
| 08:24.19 | dhwz | jm_, i just discovered debuild via google :) its the perfect partner to dh_*. |
| 08:24.21 | aybr | yes, this is what i know , |
| 08:24.22 | mikol | "mount /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 /dsk" |
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| 08:24.29 | liable | mikol: are you sure you didnt make typos? and you did the mkdir bit? |
| 08:24.45 | jm_ | tarzeau: adduser can call a script if it exists, but he can't be arsed reading |
| 08:24.46 | mikol | ;inale: lol, no mkdir, thought that its automated |
| 08:24.47 | keherman | tarzeau, when i call useradd though, if i dont specify the currnt info -- doesnt it get lost? |
| 08:24.48 | liable | mikol: you need to mkdir /dsk first.. |
| 08:24.53 | mikol | liable:******** |
| 08:25.00 | aybr | probing ide interface ide0 .. |
| 08:25.00 | mikol | rofl, now i know main error |
| 08:25.10 | tarzeau | keherman: don't ask me |
| 08:25.12 | mikol | yah, simplest solutions are always hardest to come by ::) |
| 08:25.13 | liable | !pal mikol |
| 08:25.15 | tarzeau | keherman: if you can't be arsed to read |
| 08:25.16 | keherman | tarzeau, i seem to remember calling it once, trying to add new groups, and the old ones were lost |
| 08:25.21 | aybr | hda: samsung hd080hj ata disk drive |
| 08:25.23 | keherman | tarzeau, im reading man page |
| 08:25.29 | djp | i'm trying to keep a log of all install processes, using the following example, http://www.uk.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-uptodate.en.html#s-keepingalog. however when i install a package using dpkg, i get the message, dpkg: configuration error: unknown option log: Success. can anyone tell me where i am going wrong? |
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| 08:25.33 | liable | mikol: i told ya to copy my command :) |
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| 08:25.41 | mikol | lol |
| 08:25.53 | mikol | fine, i brb, hopfully using xchat not mirc ;P |
| 08:26.04 | dhwz | mikol, |
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| 08:26.15 | dhwz | are you sure you wont save time by getting help in person? |
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| 08:26.34 | dhwz | or by getting access to a 2nd computer while u troubleshoot :) |
| 08:26.47 | kevix | djp: how about 'script' ? |
| 08:27.10 | aybr | btw i use i945g/ich7 |
| 08:27.16 | mikol | dhwz: well, nah sience PC is multitask machine, when i will install basic crap like IRC i can always alt tab here and its help in person for me :) |
| 08:27.27 | jm_ | dhwz: yeah that's handy for all Debian package building needs |
| 08:27.36 | mikol | dhwz: i already installed everything, just made mistake by reinstalling windows xp |
| 08:27.46 | mikol | brb |
| 08:28.38 | dhwz | yeah now its installed, thanks :) |
| 08:28.57 | kevix | mikol: was the mistake over-riting the bootloader or simply intstalling widers? |
| 08:29.08 | djp | kevix, i wanted to try and use the first approach. how by the way, do i pass the --log option to dpkg? |
| 08:29.31 | dhwz | mikol, i didnt understand. |
| 08:30.15 | littleball | tarzeau, how to flush the iptables |
| 08:30.19 | littleball | ? |
| 08:30.21 | tarzeau | littleball: -F |
| 08:30.32 | liable | djp: you running sarge? |
| 08:30.34 | kevix | djp: from the man page: --log=<filename> |
| 08:30.40 | liable | djp: just use aptitude |
| 08:32.01 | kevix | djp: but to install packages, one uses apt-get or aptitude, not dpkg. so how would you pass an argument to dpkg through apt-get or aptitude? |
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| 08:32.53 | jm_ | djp: dpkg can log things only as of version 1.13 IIRC, your version is way too old if you're using Sarge |
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| 08:33.20 | kevix | djp: one solution was to create a wrapper for dpkg that logs. |
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| 08:33.46 | dhwz | kevix, you mean like script(1)? |
| 08:33.49 | dhwz | :) |
| 08:33.51 | liable | the new one does it without any prompting. so does aptitude |
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| 08:34.23 | eeyore- | that'd be trivial ... rename the original dpkg executable, make a new dpkg shell script, log the command line, call the origina binary :-) |
| 08:34.39 | kevix | eeyore-: that is what I did. |
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| 08:35.26 | thunder000 | Where can i find official apt-get repositories ?? |
| 08:35.33 | miki | liable: :( |
| 08:35.40 | kevix | thunder000: apt-spy |
| 08:35.52 | liable | miki: what now |
| 08:35.53 | tarzeau | thunder000: http://www.us.debian.org/mirror/official |
| 08:36.06 | miki | liable: mount /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 /dsk = No file or dir |
| 08:36.25 | miki | liable: mount -t /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 /dsk = cant find /dsk in /etc/fstab |
| 08:36.41 | liable | miki: and you did mkdir /dsk first??? |
| 08:36.45 | miki | y |
| 08:36.56 | miki | i aws inside to check by myself= |
| 08:36.59 | eeyore- | miki: why do you use devfs path? |
| 08:37.03 | kevix | miki: -t <fstype> |
| 08:37.10 | miki | ext2 = fstype? |
| 08:37.28 | liable | eeyore-: install disk. |
| 08:37.36 | jm_ | so 8 hours I have mentioned earlier might change to 16 |
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| 08:37.45 | liable | hah |
| 08:37.46 | kevix | miki: yes. |
| 08:37.51 | eeyore- | liable: but ... even from the install cd, you could still refer to /dev/hd* |
| 08:38.08 | miki | eeyore-: i installed winxp over deiban and grub dissapeared, trying to get it back to work via CD |
| 08:38.32 | kevix | eeyore-: isn't that devfs notation ? |
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| 08:39.08 | liable | eeyore-: you tell him then, i have never been able to do it myself. (without using devfs from a debian cd, although its been a while since i did it.) |
| 08:39.30 | keherman | Does it makes sense that LDAP + KDE would cause a user to not have sound? |
| 08:39.52 | keherman | keherman, the server is Red Hat, whcih does not have an audio group -- but the clients are debian |
| 08:40.00 | kevix | liable: IIRC the installer used devfs, I dont recall if its not udev. |
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| 08:40.05 | dhwz | keherman, can you explain? |
| 08:40.47 | keherman | dhwz, i thik that when ldap tries to use the remote LDAP server's group file, it is not granting the local client to have access to the sound device |
| 08:41.02 | eeyore- | miki: all you have to do is get to a shell, alt-f2 |
| 08:41.15 | liable | kevix: the last time i had to play with grub i used sysrescuecd, but yeah, when i have done it from an install disk, i had to use devfs path. |
| 08:41.21 | eeyore- | miki: once you get to that point, mount your existing / partition, chroot into it, and then run grub |
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| 08:41.36 | miki | eeyore-: i got problems with mounting it tho |
| 08:41.43 | keherman | dhwz, does that make any sense? |
| 08:41.46 | miki | eeyore-: it says no such file or directory most of time |
| 08:42.28 | eeyore- | miki: find /dev/ -name "hd*" |
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| 08:43.17 | dhwz | keherman, i dont know enough to try to answer, sorry :( |
| 08:43.23 | miki | eeyore-: fine, i must restart firt, then ill brb |
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| 08:44.25 | kevix | keherman: I maybe missing a lot, but isn't ldap about user authentication. so wouldn't the login process like /etc/profile and beyond be a place to look? |
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| 08:44.56 | dhwz | oops |
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| 08:45.00 | keherman | kevix, what would be in /etc/profile that would screw up the sound? |
| 08:45.03 | Varoudis | hello ppl, any now where to find a deb package? iasl_20051216-1_amd64.deb |
| 08:45.20 | dhwz | Varoudis, don't you want to use apt-get? |
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| 08:46.11 | Varoudis | sorry im new to deb ..I came from gentoo :) |
| 08:46.15 | czorg | sorry I'm looking for solution to manage linux machine (install,, update). I already know FAI, systemimager and adamoto but as far as i can remember there is onather solution but can't remember it |
| 08:46.20 | kevix | keherman: sound is possible if the kernel supports it and then sets up the device, then some sound server may start, then the user need permission to access those. |
| 08:46.20 | dhwz | keherman, maybe try channel #rhel |
| 08:46.47 | keherman | kevix, yes arts is starting and failing... |
| 08:47.20 | kevix | keherman: would the adage, it root can use it, then its a user permission problem. |
| 08:47.46 | Varoudis | dhwz, no pack on apt db! |
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| 08:48.20 | dhwz | var, what??? |
| 08:48.29 | kevix | Varoudis: then you are not using the required repositories or you may need to apt-get update? |
| 08:48.43 | Varoudis | this deb package is not in the atp-get DB |
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| 08:48.55 | dhwz | Varoudis, try www.apt-get.org |
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| 08:49.08 | kevix | Varoudis: did you check packages.debian.org ? |
| 08:49.19 | dhwz | Var, or, it may be easier to build from source while using checkinstall. |
| 08:49.20 | Varoudis | kevix, It down :) |
| 08:49.32 | djp | jm_, kevix and liable, i was trying to use the example given at http://www.uk.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-uptodate.en.html#s-keepingalog |
| 08:49.50 | dhwz | i have to go, its late :), thanks all for help before. |
| 08:49.53 | kevix | Varoudis: then maybe apt-file ? |
| 08:49.57 | thunder000 | I added new repositoties for testing. it gave me a GPG error... how can I fix that ? |
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| 08:50.37 | kevix | !dpkg apt-key |
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| 08:50.59 | miki | find /dev/ -name "hd*" shows nothing |
| 08:51.02 | miki | :( |
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| 08:51.33 | pmallapp | hi all |
| 08:51.49 | pmallapp | can anybody tell me what is the best source code browser for linux |
| 08:52.04 | phycho | anyone in here played with user mode linux? |
| 08:52.11 | kevix | miki, are you familar with devfs? |
| 08:52.33 | kevix | pmallapp: vi with syntax highliter? |
| 08:52.53 | pmallapp | kevix, :) nice and sweet Thanks |
| 08:53.05 | eeyore- | miki: then it's likely that the install cd doesn't have built-in support for your IDE card. just load the appropriate module |
| 08:53.10 | eeyore- | miki: it's not a big problem |
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| 08:53.34 | eeyore- | miki: make it so that the install cd *can* partition your disk (but don't actually partition it ;-) --- if you can get there, you can access your disk. got it? |
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| 08:54.27 | eeyore- | ah well |
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| 08:55.42 | miki | back ;) |
| 08:56.22 | miki | i can still make it to work :( "find /dev/ -name "hd*" gives me nothing |
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| 08:57.00 | AlexW | how do i configure the x server |
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| 08:57.05 | mikol | dumb connection |
| 08:57.11 | resiak | !drxx AlexW |
| 08:57.12 | dpkg | AlexW: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 08:57.23 | czorg | sorry I'm looking for solution to manage linux machine (install,, update). I already know FAI, systemimager and adamoto but as far as i can remember there is another solution but can't remember it |
| 08:57.31 | AlexW | thanks |
| 08:58.40 | tyler | if i were to pc fax somethning do i need a telephone line.. can i pc fax thru cabe modem????? |
| 08:58.53 | liable | tyler: dont think so. |
| 08:59.01 | weissi | tyler: cable modem? no |
| 08:59.15 | tyler | i cannot pc fax over cable? |
| 08:59.17 | tyler | :( |
| 08:59.19 | tyler | why? |
| 08:59.28 | liable | why ask us? |
| 09:00.00 | kevix | czorg: do you mean something like the linux equivilent to 'ghost' hd imaging? |
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| 09:00.06 | mickeymouse | help me: i installed winxp over debian and im trying to get grub back but i cant mound my main linux file system |
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| 09:01.05 | weissi | mickeymouse: boot from rescue floppy and enter `linux root=/dev/<root-partition` at the boot prompt |
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| 09:01.33 | tyler | can i pc fax over cable modem? if not, how do i connect a telephone line to the pc? |
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| 09:01.56 | ctx144k | weissi: what do this command exactly? |
| 09:01.59 | miki2 | weissi: i dont have recue floppy, i got install cd only |
| 09:02.00 | weissi | tyler: with a normal analog modem (56k) |
| 09:02.18 | weissi | wiki2: the use the cd and do the same |
| 09:02.19 | miki2 | weissi: im doing alt+f2 and thne trying to mount, unsucessfuly tho |
| 09:02.42 | weissi | ctx144k: that does use the kernel from floppy/cd and uses the root-filesystem from hd |
| 09:02.50 | kevix | tyler: google for hylafax and read its setup requirements. |
| 09:02.53 | miki2 | weissi: mount - ext2 /dev/hda2 /mfs = No such file or directory. |
| 09:03.00 | miki2 | mount -t** |
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| 09:03.02 | weissi | miki2: alt+f2? do you have linux running? |
| 09:03.22 | miki2 | weissi:alt+f2 at beggining of installatioin to run command prompt |
| 09:03.29 | weissi | miki2: do use use devfs, udev or plain /dev |
| 09:03.32 | kevix | miki2: mount -t ext2 /dev/hda2 /mfs |
| 09:03.35 | AlexW | damien:~# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:03.35 | AlexW | damien:~# |
| 09:03.38 | AlexW | it does nothing |
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| 09:03.45 | ctx144k | ah.. thats great, can i do this with the originaally sarge-cd too? |
| 09:03.53 | liable | you dont even need to supply -t really.. |
| 09:03.55 | ctx144k | so that i dont need an own floppy? |
| 09:03.59 | miki2 | kevix: doing this gives me: no such file or directory |
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| 09:04.29 | kevix | miki2: mkdir /mfs |
| 09:05.00 | resiak | AlexW: Do you have X _installed_? |
| 09:05.10 | weissi | miki2: do what kevix said, or what I said: I mean on the _BOOT prompt_ of the CD! |
| 09:05.14 | AlexW | hrrm |
| 09:05.20 | AlexW | i think so :/ |
| 09:05.21 | resiak | !install x |
| 09:05.22 | dpkg | from memory, install xf4 is apt-get install read-edid mdetect discover; apt-get install x-window-system-core (plus whatever window manager you like, etc.), or ask me about "set up x", or "configure xf4" |
| 09:05.29 | resiak | AlexW: Did you try d-r xserver-xorg? |
| 09:05.33 | AlexW | x-window-system-core is already the newest version. |
| 09:05.36 | miki2 | keix: i made direcotry, but its still not working |
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| 09:05.46 | miki2 | kevix: getting same errors still |
| 09:05.59 | AlexW | well all i know is, turn the pc on trys to open gdm, trys 3 times then comes up with error and i cant use the keyboard or mouse |
| 09:06.02 | kevix | miki2: the same errors? |
| 09:06.09 | AlexW | error being .... Yes or No |
| 09:06.12 | AlexW | to view log |
| 09:06.14 | miki2 | kevix: no such file or direcotry. |
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| 09:06.46 | AlexW | resiak, thanks that worked |
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| 09:06.56 | kevix | AlexW: did you read /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 09:07.03 | resiak | AlexW: You can check the appropriate /var/log/X*log to find out why it's failing |
| 09:07.07 | AlexW | waht should be the default? xorg or xfree |
| 09:07.34 | resiak | In Sarge or earlier, XFree86. In Etch or later, X.org |
| 09:08.02 | miki2 | AlexW: use pastebin and copy file /var/log/Xorg.0.log or Xfree86.0.log |
| 09:08.10 | AlexW | ok going to test |
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| 09:08.18 | kevix | AlexW: you can always look at the DATE stamp on the files! |
| 09:08.45 | CoffeeBreaks | hi. I am about to do a big unstable update. Any known issue with a major package that would make this update risky? |
| 09:09.00 | Gnea | CoffeeBreaks: always. check the BTS. |
| 09:09.01 | valdyn_ | CoffeeBreaks: yea lots |
| 09:09.04 | resiak | CoffeeBreaks: Do you have apt-listbugs installed? |
| 09:09.08 | resiak | !tell CoffeeBreaks -about sid faq |
| 09:09.14 | Gnea | !tell CoffeeBreaks about bts |
| 09:09.36 | CoffeeBreaks | yes I do. But the BTS will tell me after I download 600M of packages. That takes time. |
| 09:09.41 | AlexW | ok bbr |
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| 09:10.02 | kevix | CoffeeBreaks: you can always get the packages in download mode and install them one by one. |
| 09:10.02 | czorg | kevix no More like fai were you decide to install this package on this group of machine |
| 09:10.12 | Gnea | CoffeeBreaks: it will tell you and then ask you. whether you say yes or no is up to you. |
| 09:10.56 | Gnea | http://fabre.debian.net/ <-- bunk. |
| 09:10.56 | kevix | czorg: there is something called pre-seeding for the debian-installer? is that helpful? |
| 09:11.00 | miki2 | kevix: any clue with ym error ? |
| 09:11.02 | miki2 | my* |
| 09:11.38 | kevix | miki2: dont know. |
| 09:11.47 | czorg | kevix no really more something like adamotohttp://adamoto.sourceforge.net/ |
| 09:13.16 | weissi | miki2: did you try to boot from the rescue-disk (install-cd)? |
| 09:13.18 | kevix | czorg: how about dpsyco ? |
| 09:14.10 | djp | where can i find the following packages? http://packages.debian.org/stable/otherosfs/ do i have to add a special repository to my sources.list? |
| 09:14.37 | resiak | djp: No, they're all in the regular repos |
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| 09:14.53 | resiak | djp: otherosfs is just the name of the group. |
| 09:15.00 | resiak | s/group/category/ |
| 09:15.00 | djp | resiak, i can't find the contrib packages |
| 09:15.12 | jm_ | run apt-setup |
| 09:15.14 | resiak | djp: Do you have contrib in your sources.list? |
| 09:15.40 | djp | no i don't. where do i find the addresses to place there? |
| 09:15.42 | czorg | kevix not at all I looking something that help me manage 50 debian client |
| 09:15.42 | kevix | djp: is 'contrib' in you /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 09:15.48 | resiak | djp: append " contrib" to the lines of your sources.list |
| 09:15.55 | resiak | djp: You may also want to append " non-free" |
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| 09:16.19 | resiak | djp: So, for instance, I have "deb http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free" |
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| 09:16.30 | CoffeeBreaks | BTW; I have an issue with xorg. It uses 80-90% CPU all the time. Any idea what I can do to try identify the issue before I restart it? |
| 09:16.36 | kevix | czorg: maybe ask on the debian-user list. |
| 09:16.46 | djp | resiak, so i just add contrib after main? |
| 09:16.52 | resiak | djp: Yep. |
| 09:16.59 | djp | oh right! cheers resiak |
| 09:17.24 | Gnea | !smb2 |
| 09:17.25 | dpkg | it has been said that smb2 is the new SMB (ask me about "smb"), and has been released by the Samba team in a testing phase (READ: NOT for production servers!!!) in the new Samba 4. http://us4.samba.org/samba/news/#4.0.0tp1 |
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| 09:17.39 | resiak | djp: No worries :) |
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| 09:22.08 | liable | well, i am fucked if i can get the installer to see /dev/hda at all. |
| 09:22.38 | miki2 | weissi: im trying to boot from isntall cd all the time, i got no other way to boot it |
| 09:22.41 | liable | miki2: what you do need to do though is let the installer run untill its scanned the cd. |
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| 09:23.21 | djp | where do i find libdvdcss2? i can't find it in the repos |
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| 09:23.27 | liable | miki2: pick country lang etc, up untill it tries to do the network bit, then go alt+F2 and do the /dev/ide/host0 bit |
| 09:23.47 | weissi | guys, the sarge install-cd has the good old syslinux command-prompt, right? |
| 09:23.50 | miki2 | liable: first im getting debian logo, i can either cancel instllation ot press enter there, im pressing enter, then "language pick" windows appears, im pressing alt+f2 and it kicks me to Busybox thingy |
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| 09:24.17 | miki2 | im trying to mount under busybox |
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| 09:24.28 | liable | miki2: no, keep going untill you get to network config, then go to alt+F2 |
| 09:24.32 | keherman | I have a weird problem now: if i add a remote LDAP authed user to my local /etc/group audio group, sound server works -- but if I add them to a manual audio entry on the remote LDAP server, sound is denied! |
| 09:24.41 | miki2 | liable: oh, fine.. retrying then |
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| 09:25.28 | weissi | keherman: is you /etc/nsswitch.conf correct? entry group ? |
| 09:25.42 | keherman | weissi, for group it is "ldap files" |
| 09:25.53 | liable | djp: its in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread theres an install .sh |
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| 09:26.02 | setcode | hello |
| 09:26.07 | djp | liable, thanks |
| 09:26.10 | keherman | weissi, i want the ldap server to authenticate the connecting LDAP client that they can use the audio device |
| 09:26.46 | keherman | weissi, when i add a remote LDAP user to the local group file under the audio section, it works fine! |
| 09:27.07 | weissi | keherman: to be able to use the audio device, you have to be in group "audio", but your group entry seems correct |
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| 09:27.22 | keherman | since the local group file is being used i suppose |
| 09:27.28 | keherman | weissi, yes i am using "audio" |
| 09:27.42 | jm_ | sounds like a fucked up setup |
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| 09:28.03 | weissi | keherman: do you have a ldap "audio" group? |
| 09:28.31 | keherman | weissi, yes i added one manually |
| 09:28.43 | keherman | weissi, since it is a junkie red hat peice of *** |
| 09:29.15 | glitch__ | redhat sucks! |
| 09:29.16 | weissi | keherman: hmm, and your group entry is "group: ldap files" and not "group: files ldap" ? |
| 09:29.16 | djp | liable libdvdread directory is not there. do i need to install another package first? |
| 09:29.26 | keherman | weissi, apparently rhel does not hav an audio group -- so i added one manuall with a non-used id number, which doesnt correspond to the local group id, but that shouldnt matter |
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| 09:29.38 | keherman | weissi, yes, it is "ldap files" |
| 09:29.47 | keherman | weissi, i am going to try it right now as just "ldap" |
| 09:29.48 | liable | djp: its in marillats repos iirc |
| 09:30.08 | weissi | keherman: I think that matters!! |
| 09:30.22 | keherman | weissi, /etc/group on client --> audio:x:29:myuser |
| 09:30.24 | keherman | that works |
| 09:30.29 | weissi | keherman: the filesystem doesn't save "audio" ist saves the gid of audio |
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| 09:30.44 | keherman | weissi, /etc/group on server --> audio:x:26:myuser |
| 09:31.15 | keherman | that fails! |
| 09:31.15 | weissi | keherman: and whats the gid of the ldap group? |
| 09:31.15 | weissi | keherman: ahh 26 |
| 09:31.15 | keherman | weissi, however, even when i tried changing it to 29, it did not matter |
| 09:31.16 | keherman | still failed |
| 09:31.23 | liable | !+info libdvdcss2 |
| 09:31.25 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 09:31.26 | keherman | 29 was taken by rpcuser |
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| 09:31.57 | djp | liable, thanks |
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| 09:32.10 | miki | well, wont work... i went to DHCP configuration, then i pressed alt+f2, same error as before |
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| 09:32.19 | weissi | keherman: try chmod `root:26 /dev/<audio-device>` |
| 09:32.25 | miki | ofc i did mkdir /dsk |
| 09:32.41 | weissi | does someone know if the debian-sarge-install-cd has an input prompt??? |
| 09:32.52 | jm_ | no, you need to use chgrp or chown, not chmod |
| 09:32.54 | liable | miki2: right, you have a reasonable connection? |
| 09:32.55 | miki | weissi: whats input prompt ? |
| 09:32.58 | keherman | weissi, on the ldap client or server/ |
| 09:32.59 | weissi | s/input prompt/boot prompt/ |
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| 09:33.08 | weissi | sorry, chown!! |
| 09:33.14 | jm_ | weissi: yes it does as it lets you select different options how to boot |
| 09:33.37 | miki | liable: im suing usb modem, so netinstall wont detect it anyway... it was b*ch to install anyway, took me 2 days of using diff versions of firmware, drivers and scripts |
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| 09:33.41 | miki | using** |
| 09:33.43 | weissi | jm_: and can you enter something like `linux root=/dev/hda3` ? |
| 09:34.05 | liable | miki2: go here http://www.sysresccd.org/ burn it, boot it, then you can use mount /dev/hda2 |
| 09:34.09 | keherman | weissi, you mean chown? |
| 09:34.16 | weissi | keherman: there where you want to hear the audio |
| 09:34.22 | miki | liable: wait i got something |
| 09:34.22 | weissi | keherman: probably the client |
| 09:34.23 | jm_ | weissi: not that I know no |
| 09:34.28 | dpkg | Package 'libdvdcss2' does not exist. |
| 09:34.31 | weissi | keherman: yes, sorry |
| 09:34.36 | keherman | weissi, a most excellent idea!!! i will chown root:audio on the clients! |
| 09:35.00 | liable | miki2: this is getting frustrating, if you use that disc (its only ~150 M) then you can install grub from it. |
| 09:35.12 | resiak | djp: libdvdread3 is in main |
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| 09:35.32 | miki | liable: i got prog EBCD PRO, do you know it? its for recovering windows and liinux |
| 09:35.34 | resiak | djp: You can get libdvdcss from marillat instead of from the libdvdread3 shell script if you like. |
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| 09:35.47 | miki | already burned, someone gave me bu i never used it |
| 09:35.50 | liable | miki: no |
| 09:35.50 | weissi | keherman: on debian std-install sound-devices are root:audio (0:29), but you need root:audio (from ldap)--> (0:26) ! |
| 09:36.17 | jm_ | weissi: Question 28 in d-i FAQ will answer your question |
| 09:36.23 | weissi | miki: whats you linux-root-device (the one which is mounted to / ) |
| 09:36.28 | djp | thanks resiak |
| 09:36.53 | miki | weissi: home/miki ? |
| 09:36.56 | miki | weissi: hda2 ? |
| 09:36.57 | keherman | weissi, however i just wonder if when the LDAP auths the group file, 29 is still pointing at rpcuser |
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| 09:37.26 | weissi | miki: no / |
| 09:37.48 | miki | weissi: umm any examples? |
| 09:37.59 | miki | i got all crap in /dev/ |
| 09:38.27 | weissi | keherman: I'd rather chosse a gid which is used nowhere else for your ldap-"audio" group. |
| 09:38.29 | djp | msg resiak sorry to intrude resiak, i just wanted to ask, is it wrong to use contrib packages and libdvdcss2 under debian? the reason i ask is that i realise gnu/linux users tend to stick to the free software philosophy (i.e., rms). is it wrong to use packages in contrib and have dvd playback? |
| 09:38.55 | djp | thanks resiak ;) |
| 09:38.56 | jm_ | djp: apt-get install vrms |
| 09:39.00 | weissi | mimi: examples ? |
| 09:39.23 | miki | weissi: im pretty new to linux, whats linu-root-device ? |
| 09:39.24 | djp | jm_, vrms? |
| 09:39.25 | weissi | miki: tell me which of your partitions gets mounted where? |
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| 09:39.31 | jm_ | djp: yes |
| 09:39.33 | djp | ah! ok! thanks jm_ |
| 09:39.36 | jm_ | djp: :) |
| 09:39.40 | weissi | miki: how many partitions do you have? |
| 09:39.59 | miki | weissi: beofre it was simple: hda1 = windowsxp ntfs, hda2 was linux ext2 and hda3 was linux swap |
| 09:40.04 | miki | no i dunno whats wrong |
| 09:40.17 | keherman | weissi, good idea, but im saying --> isn't the client going to point at id 29 always? why cant i "chgrp audio /dev/dsp" |
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| 09:40.21 | weissi | miki: ok, so /dev/hda2 is you root-partition |
| 09:40.34 | liable | haha, vrms is anal retentive :) |
| 09:40.59 | miki | weissi: im not sure, but im guessing that it was like that, is there ay way to be sure tho / |
| 09:40.59 | keherman | weissi, i could "chgrp 99 /dev/dsp" or something, but when i really want to log int locally, it will fail |
| 09:41.45 | weissi | keherman: to test your setup, I'd choose an unused gid, say 31. Then I would create a ldap-group named "xaudio" and then I would `chgrp xaudio /dev/dsp`. Then logout/re login and it should work |
| 09:43.01 | weissi | keherman: yes, true. but perhaps first try if it works like this, further setup can be done afterwards. |
| 09:43.02 | keherman | weissi, it wont let me chgrp xaudio on the local /dev/dsp device:-( |
| 09:43.10 | weissi | miki: lets assume it's /dev/hda2. |
| 09:43.16 | miki | fine |
| 09:43.22 | weissi | keherman: what? why? |
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| 09:43.43 | weissi | miki: so next step: do you have the normal deb-install-cd? |
| 09:43.59 | weissi | (bootable) |
| 09:44.01 | miki | weissi: i got netinstall 110MB |
| 09:44.04 | miki | bootable |
| 09:44.21 | weissi | miki: ok fine, does it have a boot prompt? |
| 09:44.40 | miki | weissi: i cant acces net using it tho, i was forced to reconfigure usb and firmware+drivers to get my usb modem to work |
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| 09:45.03 | miki | weissi: it has smth like Busybox, looks similar to command line |
| 09:45.10 | weissi | miki: you need no net! |
| 09:45.12 | littleball | hello, who can recommend a good network monitoring tool for me? |
| 09:45.14 | keherman | weissi, "invalid group name xaudio" |
| 09:45.23 | weissi | miki: no, _BEFORE_ you boot |
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| 09:45.27 | jm_ | what kind of monitoring tool? |
| 09:45.31 | keherman | weissi, i assume tyhat the local chgrp command checks to see if it is valid to be helpful |
| 09:45.32 | valdyn_ | littleball: good for what? |
| 09:45.36 | weissi | keherman: and your ldap-server has a group named "xaudio" ? |
| 09:45.41 | keherman | weissi, yes |
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| 09:46.07 | miki | weissi: when im booting pc with cd inside, it goes almost isntantly to debian logo and asks to press f1 for help and enter to continue |
| 09:46.13 | weissi | keherman: so if I'm right, ldap groups don't appear at your localhost... |
| 09:46.19 | littleball | valdyn_, for monitor application layer traffic |
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| 09:46.25 | littleball | such as MSN |
| 09:46.45 | keherman | weissi, i guess not :-( |
| 09:46.50 | weissi | miki: ok, there where you can press [Enter], can't you type something before enter? |
| 09:47.02 | weissi | keherman: ok, what do the logs say? |
| 09:47.13 | keherman | weissi, i even tried changing nsswitch group line to be explicitly "ldap" |
| 09:47.31 | weissi | keherman: ok, and what happens than? |
| 09:47.39 | miki | weissi: nope, im pressing enter then alt+f2 to get into busybox thingy |
| 09:47.40 | keherman | weissi, same thing |
| 09:47.52 | keherman | weissi, where is the ldap log? |
| 09:48.30 | weissi | keherman: puuh, good question, search for it? `locate ldap` |
| 09:48.58 | weissi | miki: ok, just wait a ec |
| 09:49.09 | weissi | s/ec/second/ |
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| 09:49.11 | keherman | weissi, i dont see any on my end |
| 09:49.24 | shad0w1e | how do I get nvidia working on debian? what's the package name? thanks |
| 09:49.41 | weissi | keherman: and locatedb is up to date? |
| 09:49.43 | jm_ | shad0w1e: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 09:49.52 | shad0w1e | !nvidia |
| 09:49.52 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
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| 09:50.12 | weissi | Does nobody know if netinstall-cd has an boot-prompt (e.g. syslinux) ??? |
| 09:50.14 | keherman | weissi, pretty sure -- i can refresh it |
| 09:50.24 | jm_ | I already answered your question |
| 09:50.30 | shad0w1e | weissi you can hit alt+left and get busybox |
| 09:50.48 | shad0w1e | actually alt+right, but there isn't much there! |
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| 09:51.00 | weissi | keherman: but this pam_ldap module has a configuration, no? |
| 09:51.14 | liable | weissi: yes it does have a boot prompt. no, root=/dev/hdfoo doesnt work |
| 09:51.30 | jm_ | liable: newer versions can be used for that too, it's in the FAQ |
| 09:51.45 | liable | jm_: sarge ones? |
| 09:51.52 | jm_ | liable: no, after Sarge |
| 09:51.57 | liable | jm_: ah. |
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| 09:52.09 | weissi | liable + miki: it does have a boot prompt??? what happens if you enter `linux root=/dev/hda2` ?? |
| 09:52.20 | jm_ | that should be handy so people like miki won't spend 16 hours on this simple issue ;) |
| 09:52.55 | keherman | weissi, yeah there is a config |
| 09:53.03 | keherman | weissi, but i dont see any logs :-( |
| 09:53.25 | soup | anyone know how to start up a replacement init? |
| 09:53.36 | weissi | keherman: can't you configure debug-level or logfile? if no logfile check /var/log/messages, /var/log/auth.log, dmesg, ... |
| 09:53.46 | liable | miki: just get sysrescucd and boot from that and keep me from going insane. |
| 09:53.47 | miki | weissi: i didnt do linux root=/dev/hda2, i was just trying to mount as normal user, but su wont work under busybox ayway |
| 09:54.43 | weissi | miki: noo, boot-prompt appears _BEFORE_ the kernel/operating system is booted!!! |
| 09:55.25 | miki | weissi: i dont have boot prompt |
| 09:55.32 | liable | jm_: which faq? |
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| 09:55.37 | jm_ | liable: d-i FAQ |
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| 09:55.48 | liable | ta |
| 09:55.54 | colinsmith1940 | what is the following switch... apt-get install -? unstable packagename |
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| 09:56.01 | weissi | miki: it's easier that mounting the whole system... thats just a rescue disk, it just ommits bootloader/installed kernel |
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| 09:56.05 | jm_ | t, read the man page |
| 09:56.11 | remi | hi. can you remind me the tool to install automaticaly libs needed to run a software ? |
| 09:56.19 | jm_ | remi: apt-get |
| 09:56.26 | remi | jm_, nope |
| 09:56.33 | jm_ | remi: yes |
| 09:57.05 | miki | weissi: how can i load boot prompt |
| 09:57.20 | remi | jm_, nope, i want to run a software that fails because i need libs. On debian there is a tool to do that. Do you know that name ? |
| 09:57.38 | weissi | miki: ah, press [F7] |
| 09:57.42 | remi | jm_, a software outside the packages, build from scratch |
| 09:57.43 | jm_ | remi: you're not using Debian packages then, and you must be thinking of auto-apt |
| 09:57.48 | weissi | miki: in the bootscreen |
| 09:57.55 | remi | jm_, that's it thanks :) |
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| 09:57.59 | colinsmith1940 | can anyone help me with the switch to install a package from unstable when my default is testing |
| 09:58.05 | keherman | weissi, nothing in there at all... |
| 09:58.22 | miki | weissi: what to do in the bootscreen |
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| 09:58.36 | weissi | keherman: ok, whats the configs filename? (with path please) |
| 09:58.42 | jm_ | colinsmith1940: read about 15-20 lines up, after you asked it for the first time |
| 09:58.58 | weissi | miki: in the bootscreen: Just press the [F7]-key |
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| 09:59.48 | keherman | weissi, there are 4 ldapconfig files |
| 09:59.56 | colinsmith1940 | jm_ do not have that |
| 10:00.05 | jm_ | colinsmith1940: you do not have what? |
| 10:00.10 | weissi | keherman: ok, give me the names of them please |
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| 10:00.23 | colinsmith1940 | the 15-20 lines up answer |
| 10:00.25 | colinsmith1940 | to the question |
| 10:00.31 | liable | jm_: apologies, mind giving me a link? |
| 10:00.35 | colinsmith1940 | so could you paste it for me casue it's not in my scroll buffer |
| 10:00.39 | jm_ | sure you do, it starts with a "t" |
| 10:00.40 | aidehua | I want to test a script that will be run by cron. How can I 'clean' my environment, such that it is similar to the one cron uses? |
| 10:00.47 | jm_ | liable: do you know the home page of d-i? |
| 10:00.58 | miki | weissi: fine, so i should enter boot prompt and type: linux root=/dev/hda2 now ? |
| 10:00.59 | colinsmith1940 | ok so it's like apt-get install -t unstable packagename |
| 10:01.04 | patbrugge | Hi all when I boot into my system I have to unmute the sound in gnome all the time. It does not seem to remember the setings. What is the fix? |
| 10:01.11 | Shadur | colinsmith1940: It's also, by and large, a very bad idea to do so. |
| 10:01.24 | jm_ | patbrugge: using ALSA? |
| 10:01.26 | keherman | weissi, client or server? |
| 10:01.31 | patbrugge | jm_: Yes |
| 10:01.38 | Shadur | One of those "Only if you really, really, REALLY know what you're doing" things. |
| 10:01.49 | jm_ | patbrugge: run alsactl store and most mixers also have the option to save it |
| 10:01.53 | weissi | miki: yep (insert cd, reboot, at bootscreen: [F7], enter "linux root=/dev/hda2", press [Enter]) |
| 10:02.00 | weissi | keherman: client |
| 10:02.01 | jm_ | liable: i.e. /msg dpkg d-i |
| 10:02.25 | liable | jm_: yeah, to many debian favourites, was looking in install guide.. :) |
| 10:02.38 | keherman | weissi, client --> /etc/pam.d/common-password /etc/pam.d/common-auth /etc/pam.d/common-account /etc/pam.d/common-session |
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| 10:03.14 | weissi | keherman: isn't there a /etc/ldap/pam_ldap.conf or something? |
| 10:03.28 | keherman | weissi, you know that it wouldn't let me chgrp the local /dev/dsp back to "audio" even though that group exists locally and manually created remotely |
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| 10:04.01 | liable | jm_: right, so etch beta installers. |
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| 10:04.05 | jm_ | liable: indeed |
| 10:04.06 | erdal | slm |
| 10:04.15 | miki | weissi: fine, brb restarting system |
| 10:04.15 | keherman | weissi, /etc/pam_ldap.conf |
| 10:04.24 | keherman | weissi, i have it up |
| 10:04.42 | remi | is bzflag package broken ? I have a problem, server side |
| 10:05.57 | weissi | keherman: and do you have installed nscd ? |
| 10:06.04 | keherman | yes |
| 10:06.21 | xored | !paste |
| 10:06.21 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 10:06.57 | liable | jm_: i would rather point them to something like sysrescucd than etch d-i atm. will be nice though once its all sorted. |
| 10:07.01 | keherman | weissi, hrmm seems there mighjt be a problem with it |
| 10:07.12 | mindeq | whcih mode i should choose when installation is asking how to install LILO on slackware ? |
| 10:07.27 | mindeq | expert maybe |
| 10:07.27 | mindeq | ? |
| 10:07.29 | liable | wtf? |
| 10:07.59 | mindeq | ;D |
| 10:08.02 | xored | Hello. Iam getting this error with ppp when iam connected to a DSL ( broadband ) modem. When i try to connect first it works but after a while, arround 2/§ hours, it just terminates and i cannot reconnect until bmaking a reboot :http://channels.debian.net/paste/1635 |
| 10:08.04 | keherman | weissi, unkown group "postdrop" |
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| 10:08.48 | jm_ | liable: to be honest, I think he'll be lost with that too |
| 10:09.14 | liable | hah, probably, at least it doesnt use devfs though. |
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| 10:09.25 | weissi | keherman: did you try `getent passwd`, shadow and group? |
| 10:09.50 | keherman | weissi, ok i reinstalled nscd to fix the rror |
| 10:09.58 | keherman | weissi, yeah that works |
| 10:11.22 | weissi | keherman: and if you do `getent group`, do ALL the ldap-groups (like xaudio appear)? |
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| 10:11.49 | keherman | weissi, let me try |
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| 10:12.34 | keherman | weissi, "audio:x:29:localuser" |
| 10:12.37 | keherman | thats the only entry |
| 10:12.44 | keherman | it is not getting the ldap-group |
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| 10:12.57 | keherman | weissi, let me try something else -- mayeb bscd was broken before |
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| 10:13.48 | CleeK- | hi |
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| 10:14.33 | weissi | keherman: but thats local! |
| 10:14.47 | CleeK- | I try to install a Debian Sarge on a Dell Poweredge. I know about Scott Kevton CD, but it is based on Woody. Anyone knows something like that but sarge-based ? |
| 10:14.55 | weissi | keherman: do you have something like "nss_base_group ou=groups,dc=gsr,dc=pt?one" in your /etc/pam_ldap.conf ? |
| 10:14.55 | keherman | weissi, well why doesnt it show my remote audo group? |
| 10:15.06 | keherman | weissi, i dont think so |
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| 10:15.27 | CleeK- | in fact, I need to create a debian install cd with a 2.6.12 kernel (from testing for example). |
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| 10:15.33 | weissi | keherman: you have to tell the pam_ldap-things where your groups are saved in your ldap server? |
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| 10:15.41 | weissi | s/?/!/ |
| 10:15.45 | vin` | CleeK-: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.12 |
| 10:15.49 | liable | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 10:15.49 | dpkg | from memory, sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 10:15.54 | CleeK- | I guess replacing the kernel udeb on the cd image is not sufficient |
| 10:15.58 | keherman | weissi, i dont thik so |
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| 10:16.03 | possie | hi |
| 10:16.22 | weissi | keherman: you don't think you have it OR you don't think you need it? |
| 10:16.23 | possie | is "beagle" allready included in debian testing? or should i use unstable for that? |
| 10:16.24 | vin` | CleeK-: or try a daily build d-i for 2.6.15 perhaps. |
| 10:16.42 | keherman | weissi, i followed this howto --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LDAPClientAuthentication |
| 10:16.44 | CleeK- | vin`: thanks |
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| 10:17.37 | vin` | valmik: thapar? |
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| 10:19.00 | vin` | !info beagle sarge |
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| 10:19.27 | vin` | !info beagle testing |
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| 10:19.56 | miki | weissi: well.... |
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| 10:20.06 | miki | weissi: let me do pastebin |
| 10:20.08 | ootput | any of you people know how to speed up xterm/urxvt's scroll-refresh speed with aliased fonts? |
| 10:20.28 | weissi | keherman: fuck, I have to change room in school *g*, I won't have inet anymore :-(( sorry, check google for that, there is a log info! (search string like "pam_ldap.conf group OR groups") |
| 10:20.39 | keherman | weissi, this is the problem, when is do ls -al /dev/dsp on the local sound, it says it is owned by rpcuser? |
| 10:20.43 | ootput | or can you recommend a term that handles xft fonts well, with no visible slowdown in scroll speed? |
| 10:20.58 | weissi | miki: sorry, I have to change room in school *g*, I won't have inet anymore |
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| 10:21.07 | vin` | ootput: I have no visible problems with uxterm |
| 10:21.21 | keherman | weissi, thanks for help :-) |
| 10:21.22 | weissi | keherman: then the gid is used by <local user>::rpcuser |
| 10:21.28 | xored | Hello. Iam getting this error with ppp when iam connected to a DSL ( broadband ) modem. When i try to connect first it works but after a while, arround 2/§ hours, it just terminates and i cannot reconnect until bmaking a reboot :http://channels.debian.net/paste/1635 |
| 10:21.36 | keherman | weissi, there is no local rpcuser!!! |
| 10:21.42 | weissi | keherman+miki: sorry, didn't know that its so long |
| 10:21.45 | keherman | none in local /etc/group! |
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| 10:21.52 | ootput | vin`: great. is that a utf8 hack of xterm? |
| 10:21.54 | oat | Hi |
| 10:21.58 | keherman | weird probelm... |
| 10:22.02 | weissi | keherman: ?!? then try to kill nscd and try once more |
| 10:22.09 | weissi | sorry, bye |
| 10:22.37 | vin` | ootput: you probably already have it, just run it. |
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| 10:23.13 | oat | cya, #debian-bugs is helping me |
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| 10:23.26 | miki | after getting to bootscreen, im typing linux root=dev/hda2 |
| 10:23.28 | miki | http://pastebin.com/522055 |
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| 10:24.15 | MoDaX | how do I query dpkg (the irc bot) about a package? |
| 10:24.27 | jm_ | query about which aspect of the package? |
| 10:24.35 | miki | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.51 | MoDaX | jm_: eg. version in unstable |
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| 10:25.00 | ootput | vin`: can't find it |
| 10:25.06 | ootput | vin`: which package is it in? |
| 10:25.16 | jm_ | MoDaX: /msg dpkg info pkgname release |
| 10:25.26 | MoDaX | thanks |
| 10:25.50 | MoDaX | any idea, when p.d.o gets unb0rked? |
| 10:26.28 | ootput | vin`: scratch that, i didn't realise xterm wasn't installed :) |
| 10:26.56 | miki | anyone can help me? |
| 10:27.26 | vin` | miki: is this from the initial install screen? |
| 10:27.37 | liable | miki: it doesnt seem so. |
| 10:28.05 | liable | although, by god we have tried :) |
| 10:28.13 | miki | vin': i had linux and windows installed on same hdd |
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| 10:28.25 | miki | but diff partition, i was forced to reinstall windows and GRUB windows dissapeared |
| 10:28.36 | vin` | miki: and? |
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| 10:28.48 | miki | im trying to get it back, but first i must mount my old hdd to get to grub install |
| 10:29.01 | miki | and i cant mount it |
| 10:29.02 | jm_ | use grub floppy |
| 10:29.02 | vin` | !fixmbr |
| 10:29.02 | dpkg | So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target), then chroot into it (chroot /target), then run "grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub". |
| 10:29.23 | liable | that factoid really does suck ass. |
| 10:29.27 | miki | yes but mount command gives me: file or direcotry does not exist |
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| 10:29.39 | vin` | liable: fix it. |
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| 10:33.02 | miki | vin`: i tried to get into boot screen and do: 'linux root=/dev/hda2' but it gave me this at end: http://pastebin.com/522055 |
| 10:33.50 | vin` | miki: alt-F2 |
| 10:34.29 | miki | vin`: alt-f2 just kicks me to busybox thingy, but i cant mount anything under it |
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| 10:34.43 | vin` | miki: are you booted off a CD? |
| 10:34.47 | miki | yah |
| 10:35.19 | miki | maybe my linux p[artition aint hda2 ? |
| 10:35.25 | miki | any way to check it ? |
| 10:36.07 | miki | but im 99,9% sure that it is, just those errors are so odd =\ |
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| 10:36.32 | Guerin | miki: fdisk -l |
| 10:36.34 | vin` | the etch d-i is rumored to have the rescue mode back, hopefull this will make it painless. |
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| 10:36.58 | vin` | s/ll/lly |
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| 10:38.16 | miki | Guerin: let me reboot, brb 10min |
| 10:38.37 | jugglinx | miki, did u have a live cd? could be a bit easier... |
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| 10:40.31 | zumbi | how could i extract a list of packages from a system to make a mirror of it in other site ? and tell apt to install files from that file ? |
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| 10:41.24 | korE_ | Ah good ol' debian |
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| 10:43.11 | vin` | zumbi: /msg dpkg selections |
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| 10:43.54 | miki2 | fdisk -l wont work |
| 10:43.57 | marek_ | hi, i have a problem with my firefox that i installed from the official deb package, apparently I am missing the Courier font because when I select that one in Preferences (Serif) then I have this appareance on some pages http://jawurek.net/scrshot1.jpg and http://jawurek.net/scrshot2.jpg would be the source-code-view, when I change the setting to Courier New I can see everything, in OO I can not select Courier as a font so I think that I need that font. " |
| 10:43.57 | marek_ | apt-cache search courier font" told me some packages and I think it should be in xfonts-scalable but this package is alreade up to date, any ideas ? |
| 10:45.11 | miki2 | vin`, Guerrin: fdisk -l won work |
| 10:45.13 | miki2 | wont |
| 10:45.31 | zumbi | miki2: fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 10:45.41 | miki2 | nothing there |
| 10:45.42 | zumbi | miki2: man fdisk |
| 10:45.47 | Guerin | miki: be root |
| 10:45.49 | miki2 | wont find hda in /dve/ |
| 10:45.59 | miki2 | cant log as root on busybox |
| 10:46.03 | zumbi | miki2: /dev |
| 10:46.06 | Guerin | miki: if there's really nothing there, you're not using a computer with any block devices attached |
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| 10:46.18 | Guerin | miki: cat /proc/partitions |
| 10:46.20 | miki2 | i tried to look there manually |
| 10:46.29 | zumbi | 11:45 < miki2> wont find hda in /dve/ |
| 10:46.42 | zumbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.49 | miki2 | yes n dev |
| 10:46.52 | miki2 | wont find |
| 10:47.09 | Guerin | miki: ok. Get a real boot cd, something without busybox |
| 10:47.30 | miki2 | i got EBCD 0.6.1 PRO |
| 10:47.40 | Guerin | never heard of it |
| 10:47.51 | Guerin | but anything with 'pro' after the name is bound to be worse than useless |
| 10:47.51 | miki2 | its recovery util with ability to boot as linux |
| 10:48.10 | miki2 | it has 2.4.18 kernel and other crap, i dunno |
| 10:48.11 | vin` | yeah it's working eh? |
| 10:48.17 | miki2 | not really |
| 10:48.23 | miki2 | its working as good as busybox is |
| 10:48.26 | miki2 | same errors and stuff |
| 10:48.29 | vin` | coaster |
| 10:48.35 | Shadur | 2.4.18? Ye gods. |
| 10:48.45 | Guerin | miki: get lnx-bbc, knoppix, ubuntu, ultimate boot cd or something |
| 10:48.46 | Shadur | Isn't 2.4.x up to 30-odd? |
| 10:48.49 | Guerin | damnslammlinux |
| 10:48.56 | Guerin | damnsmall, even |
| 10:48.57 | miki2 | guerin i got ubuntucd here |
| 10:49.00 | miki2 | ubuntu |
| 10:49.11 | Guerin | miki2: don't talk, do. |
| 10:49.18 | Guerin | Shadur: yeah. |
| 10:49.19 | miki2 | i dont like it tho, it wont detect any usb drivers on my pc :) |
| 10:50.16 | miki2 | ok Guerrin, brb as ubuntu |
| 10:50.54 | azeem | miki2: ubuntu help is in #ubuntu |
| 10:51.23 | fireba11 | lol |
| 10:52.02 | Guerin | azeem: he's wanting to use ubuntu cd to fix his debian mbr |
| 10:52.07 | liable | err, busybox doesnt have fdisk.. |
| 10:52.10 | azeem | aha |
| 10:52.15 | azeem | how unpure |
| 10:52.16 | azeem | :) |
| 10:52.30 | Guerin | heh |
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| 10:52.43 | Guerin | liable: that'll be why |
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| 10:53.47 | liable | heh, i might write a novel about this one. :) |
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| 10:56.24 | miki3 | hey |
| 10:56.41 | miki3 | well... ubuntu alt+f2 got same busybox as debian |
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| 10:57.12 | miki3 | cat /proc/partitions = shows nothing, only major minor #block name |
| 10:57.17 | Mjelva | i've got another quasi-ambitious prosject going on. i've got a server at home, and i'd like to see if there's any way of setting up some sort of email depository on it, so it grabs my email automagically, and i can both grab it from the server via evolution (for instance) or read it via terminal remotely (via ssh). can i? |
| 10:57.25 | miki3 | fdisk -l /dev/hda shous: fdisk not found |
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| 10:58.24 | liable | miki3: you shopuld be able to mount /dev/hda2 from the ubuntu cd though (i think) |
| 10:58.48 | miki3 | liable: how ? |
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| 10:59.06 | miki3 | liable: pressing alt+f2 is kicking me to same busybaox as debian had |
| 10:59.11 | liable | miki3: is it ubuntu live cd? |
| 10:59.19 | miki3 | lol no, its just install cd |
| 10:59.28 | miki3 | some old one but busybox is same |
| 10:59.39 | miki3 | only live cd i got is that EBCD 2.4.18 :D |
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| 11:00.17 | miki3 | let me try using that live cd =\, brb |
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| 11:01.06 | Mjelva | liable - do you think my project is feasible? |
| 11:01.14 | Mjelva | can i do it, and how? |
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| 11:06.36 | oat | Hi everyone |
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| 11:08.27 | oat | I got gnome-panel 2.12.2-3 installed, when ever I click the Application's menu is shows for a second, then turns into a 1px by 1px box. |
| 11:08.44 | oat | I couldn't find any bugs marked aganist gnome-panel about this |
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| 11:09.00 | oat | Could it be something else causing it? |
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| 11:09.24 | oat | Because I doubt no one would of not reported such a bug like this. |
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| 11:10.28 | miki | so i booted from crap client and i found something with "fdisk -l /dev/hda" |
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| 11:10.38 | oat | Hmm, one of the forwarded bugs seems to be what I am talking about |
| 11:11.21 | susperia | mmm guys i got a mac from iptraf looking like 0060085aab8f. i see 'arp' has a different notation... how do i see which ip is on that mac ? |
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| 11:12.11 | jm_ | arp -na |
| 11:12.22 | susperia | jm_: appreciated. |
| 11:12.34 | jm_ | susperia: if it's not in ARP cache, then arping might help |
| 11:12.43 | Gnea | susperia: arp -n or ip n |
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| 11:13.03 | susperia | i see yes. let me atempt that. |
| 11:13.25 | miki | this is what fdisk -l has shown, part2 is my linux partition http://pastebin.com/522097 |
| 11:13.26 | oat | It seems like bug #314526 but it 1) after the fixed version 2) doesn't matter what direction the panel is 3) doesn't matter if an application is open or not |
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| 11:13.43 | ootput_ | would anyone mind /msg'ng me utf8 encoded message? |
| 11:13.47 | oat | Should I try #debian-devel? |
| 11:14.00 | jm_ | ootput: why? create your own |
| 11:14.09 | jm_ | or do you want to test your IRC client? |
| 11:14.15 | ootput | jm_: the latter |
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| 11:14.42 | oat | Going to #d-d |
| 11:14.44 | miki | but i cant mount it, says: special device not found(mount -t ext2 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/disc |
| 11:15.16 | jm_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:15.21 | miki | anyone know how should i mount my main file system? |
| 11:15.29 | miki | jm_: yes it should be: but i cant mount it, says: special device not found(mount -t ext2 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part2) |
| 11:15.31 | Mjelva | i've got another quasi-ambitious prosject going on. i've got a server at home, and i'd like to see if there's any way of setting up some sort of email depository on it, so it grabs my email automagically, and i can both grab it from the server via evolution (for instance) or read it via terminal remotely (via ssh). can i do this? |
| 11:15.41 | miki | jm_: it jut says special device not found |
| 11:15.44 | jm_ | miki: and where's the mount point? |
| 11:15.48 | miki | and i got destination there too |
| 11:15.58 | liable | miki: goddamn, how many controllers you got in that box? |
| 11:16.05 | liable | miki: no wonder... |
| 11:16.21 | vulture | Mjelva: run a local imap server |
| 11:16.24 | vulture | Mjelva: easy enough |
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| 11:16.51 | vulture | then you can use any number of imap clients to access it: run a webmail solution, mutt over ssh, graphical clients etc.. |
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| 11:17.17 | liable | miki: substitute previous commands with host2 |
| 11:17.21 | Mjelva | vulture - would that act as a mail server of its own, or could it be set to grab mail from the external mailserver i'm currently using? |
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| 11:17.52 | miki | liable: mount -t ext2 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 /dsc |
| 11:18.02 | miki | says: special device does not exist |
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| 11:18.16 | susperia | see youre on the topic of mail... which webmail systems do you folks recommend? Squirrel ? |
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| 11:19.09 | trc | need a soundfile to ringtone howto |
| 11:20.07 | liable | miki: how many harddrives you have? |
| 11:20.20 | miki | liable: 1 |
| 11:20.26 | hatake_kakashi | lol |
| 11:20.40 | miki | 3 paritions on it, i dunno whats part3, but part 5 is swap file for part 2 |
| 11:20.44 | liable | miki: please ffs get a rescue cd instead of that one you have. |
| 11:20.53 | jm_ | one of those 3 must be extended partition |
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| 11:21.08 | hatake_kakashi | fdisk -l doesn't help? |
| 11:21.17 | liable | i dunno why that has said host2, cause thats a controller.. |
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| 11:21.27 | vulture | Mjelva: you setup your system to grab mail as normal (using fetchmail or whatever) and then serve it locally with an imap server like courier |
| 11:21.31 | miki | 1,2 and 5 are ones i should have, i dunno whats 3 and why 5 isnt named 3 |
| 11:21.46 | jm_ | then 3 is extended, 5 is first logical drive in extended partition |
| 11:21.57 | miki | part 3 is like 1kb or smth |
| 11:22.02 | oat | cya |
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| 11:22.13 | miki | 5 is linux swap file, 2 is linux, 1 is windows |
| 11:22.37 | liable | why host2? |
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| 11:22.44 | miki | liable: no idea |
| 11:22.59 | hatake_kakashi | if 3 is extended, then you must have two primary partition then I suppose |
| 11:23.09 | epsilon | miki: simple list output of parted or fdisk world help more than descriptions of them... |
| 11:23.12 | hatake_kakashi | s/partition/partitions |
| 11:23.20 | jm_ | should be trivial to figure out what exists as he's using devfs - it only creates the nodes for known partitions/devices |
| 11:23.24 | liable | epsilon: he gave it ^^ |
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| 11:23.45 | miki | epsilon: like here http://pastebin.com/522097 |
| 11:23.55 | jm_ | that's not fdisk -l output |
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| 11:24.07 | miki | it is :) |
| 11:24.17 | jm_ | then you have some fucked up fdisk |
| 11:24.20 | miki | cat /proc/partitions shows no partition tho |
| 11:24.23 | epsilon | well... that output doesn't help much |
| 11:24.35 | miki | fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 11:24.41 | miki | is whats there |
| 11:24.47 | epsilon | need information such as start/end, size, type, primary/logi, FS type... |
| 11:24.51 | liable | miki: please ffs get a rescue cd instead of that one you have. |
| 11:24.53 | miki | or wait |
| 11:24.59 | miki | z |
| 11:25.06 | miki | maybe its /dev/ide |
| 11:25.21 | liable | but still it says hdg and host2 suggesting three ide controllers... |
| 11:25.22 | epsilon | what gay system are you runing in first way? |
| 11:25.23 | hatake_kakashi | miki: you didn't specify the full location |
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| 11:25.43 | liable | four even.. |
| 11:26.36 | epsilon | why does someone need 2 or 3 IDE controller for 1 drive... disable the unused one in BIOS |
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| 11:27.12 | miki | epsilon: its nto mine pc, i was jsut trying to install debian on it |
| 11:27.27 | miki | but i fucked windows and after resintall i cant get into grub |
| 11:27.35 | hatake_kakashi | miki: lspci |
| 11:27.46 | hatake_kakashi | lspci| grep IDE |
| 11:28.10 | miki | so, i brb then |
| 11:28.17 | liable | miki: wait |
| 11:28.21 | keherman | /etc/pam.d/common-session? |
| 11:28.22 | pengol | hi there, can anybody suggest a lightweight dns cache? |
| 11:28.25 | liable | miki: what is this box |
| 11:28.28 | jm_ | he'll be back with no useful data - those commands are not on the CD |
| 11:28.34 | hatake_kakashi | pengol: squid? |
| 11:28.40 | hatake_kakashi | pengol: nm |
| 11:28.40 | jm_ | dnsmasq |
| 11:28.50 | jm_ | so yes, someone can suggest it |
| 11:28.51 | keherman | how do i get pam_console.so installed? it is not in /lib/security/ |
| 11:28.57 | miki | liable: wich box ? |
| 11:29.14 | pengol | squid? |
| 11:29.18 | pengol | for dns? |
| 11:29.23 | hatake_kakashi | pengol: I said nm |
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| 11:29.35 | hatake_kakashi | nm = nevermind |
| 11:29.36 | liable | miki: the one that you have? who made it? what model or whatever? |
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| 11:29.44 | pengol | sorry idn |
| 11:29.52 | miki | liable: wich bo ur talking about? |
| 11:29.53 | pengol | idn = I didn't knew |
| 11:29.57 | miki | box*** |
| 11:30.03 | pengol | jm_: thankz |
| 11:30.12 | jm_ | pam_console is not a standard PAM module |
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| 11:30.16 | hatake_kakashi | miki: the one that has got multiple controllers or whatever |
| 11:30.27 | liable | miki: the box you are trying to install grub on. |
| 11:30.29 | miki | no idea |
| 11:30.36 | liable | ... |
| 11:30.51 | miki | ah, ur talking about hdd ? |
| 11:31.03 | hatake_kakashi | the one with multiple parts |
| 11:31.10 | hatake_kakashi | from pastebin |
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| 11:31.33 | miki | well, this is my hard disk |
| 11:31.35 | xored | what should i set this -m to if iam using the linux box as a gateway ? : pty "/usr/sbin/pppoe -I eth0 -T 80 -m 1452" |
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| 11:31.56 | miki | 120gb, part1 = 80gb part2 = 38,5gb, part 5 = 1,5gb |
| 11:31.57 | liable | miki: box=computer.. |
| 11:32.07 | Guerin | xored: default should be fine |
| 11:32.17 | Guerin | zumbi: and 1492 is about default |
| 11:32.20 | miki | liable: its noname pc, p4 2,66 512ram on asus mobo |
| 11:32.35 | hatake_kakashi | miki: asus.. which model? |
| 11:32.39 | miki | sec |
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| 11:32.58 | xored | Guerin: http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 11:33.04 | keherman | Someone please help me to install pan_console.so if you knwo where to get it, debian does not have it by default in /lib/security |
| 11:33.11 | xored | Guerin: sorry : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1635 |
| 11:33.19 | miki | hmm strange, it got chineeses box :D |
| 11:33.20 | miki | rofl |
| 11:33.22 | miki | sec |
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| 11:33.42 | xored | Guerin: iam getting dissconects after 2-3 hours and i have no clue why. Iam just upgraded pppd to 2.3.4b |
| 11:33.50 | xored | Guerin: but iam really helpless |
| 11:33.52 | miki | P5V800-MX-EAYGZ |
| 11:33.59 | jm_ | xored: try with 1412 |
| 11:34.04 | Guerin | xored: complain to your ISP |
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| 11:34.15 | xored | Guerin: is it a ISP problem Guerin ? |
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| 11:34.26 | miki | via p4m800 + via vt8251 |
| 11:34.40 | xored | Guerin: its no problem calling there to make a bit "firer", but i need to know whats the "problem" |
| 11:34.42 | Guerin | xored: as likely or more likely than an OS problem |
| 11:34.52 | pengol | jm_: dnsmask is cool :) |
| 11:34.53 | miki | should i change something in bios ? |
| 11:34.58 | xored | jm_: this value is vor MTU isnt it ß |
| 11:35.07 | Guerin | xored: "Hi there. My internet disconnects after 2-3 hours. Why?" |
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| 11:35.29 | jm_ | xored: no, it's for segment size |
| 11:35.47 | jm_ | IOW MSS |
| 11:35.50 | xored | Guerin: Sure . My problem way i used a cable-connection. Then i got DSL and i tryied to set um a linux box as gatewway. So as you can thnk about, i was first thinking about i did aan mistake |
| 11:36.32 | xored | sorry for the ugly spelling |
| 11:36.53 | xam | xored: http://www.speedguide.net:8080/ |
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| 11:37.26 | xored | jm_: how does it affect the connection of the clients ? higher ping, higher response ? |
| 11:37.33 | xored | xam: thank you |
| 11:38.13 | jm_ | xored: you can test that for yourself, or use traffic shaper to help with it |
| 11:38.22 | xored | ok, thank you jm_ |
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| 11:38.45 | miki | anyone here is still trying to help me, or can i idle for 90min ? |
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| 11:38.58 | miki | i got some work to do =\ |
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| 11:39.27 | liable | miki: re-install debian, it will be much quicker. |
| 11:39.44 | Guerin | wtf |
| 11:40.09 | xam | xored: mhh, about your problem with your disconnects, unfortunately there is hardly anything useful in your logs. I rarely have the same problem, but stopping and restarting pppd does the trick (it seems that sometimes pppd gets confused) |
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| 11:40.17 | Guerin | boot to a shell, mount /, run grub-install /dev/foo && update-grub && reboot |
| 11:40.17 | liable | Guerin: lastlog and see how long this has been going on.. |
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| 11:40.25 | liable | yes... |
| 11:40.27 | epsilon | miki: no, everyone idling more than 5min in irc will be banned from internet |
| 11:40.36 | liable | sounds easy, doesnt it? |
| 11:40.36 | Guerin | miki: where are the rockets? |
| 11:40.38 | magus_ | can anyone tell me how to choose a specific desktop for a progam i start in the shell? |
| 11:40.58 | Guerin | magus_: don't believe you can, unless your wm provides a wrapper for it |
| 11:41.23 | Guerin | magus_: multiple desktops aren't part of any spec that shells or apps tend to care about |
| 11:41.24 | miki | liable: PROBLEM IS THAT IT WONT BE FASTER< SIENCE FIRST THING I NEED TO DO AFTER RESINTALLING IS |
| 11:41.29 | fireba11 | magus_: set the environment variable witch desktop to use |
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| 11:41.39 | miki | GETTING MY USB MODEM TO WORK AND SIENCE ITS SPEEDTECH< IT TAKES LIKE @ DAYS STRAIGHT OF FUCKING |
| 11:41.41 | Guerin | miki: ... is fix your fucking capslock |
| 11:41.45 | miki | omg |
| 11:41.46 | miki | sry |
| 11:41.50 | miki | didnt mean to |
| 11:41.51 | liable | miki: first thing is hit capslock? |
| 11:41.55 | Guerin | miki: sucks to be you. |
| 11:41.59 | miki | press it |
| 11:42.08 | Guerin | miki: get a real modem. |
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| 11:42.17 | Gnea | !caps |
| 11:42.17 | dpkg | Don't write words all in capital letters unless they're abbreviations. To emphasize words put _* on both sides of them. _emphasize_ them. |
| 11:42.26 | magus_ | Guerin: no way? are u sure? i thought if i can choose the monitor (:0 or :0.0 etc) i can also choose the desktop :( |
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| 11:42.27 | miki | actually smth is wrong with keyboard |
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| 11:42.47 | gozz | anyone got any idea as to why mplayer will only play normal size? when i set to double or full screen the window size changes but not the video |
| 11:42.56 | TBBle | Man, I've not had anything require me to spend 2 days straight having sex... What model modem was this exactly? |
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| 11:43.09 | magus_ | gozz: mplayer -zoom |
| 11:43.10 | Gnea | gozz: change the video output plugin |
| 11:43.12 | TBBle | gozz: Try -vo xv? |
| 11:43.17 | Guerin | magus_: display is part of the X protocol. Multiple desktops are an imaginary thing supported by a few, but not many, windowmanagers, and not al in the same way. |
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| 11:43.23 | zignig | bleh! |
| 11:43.25 | csalad | hy i use uhu-linux(deb. pack.). i want upgrade my kde. wich type of kde must i download? |
| 11:43.34 | miki | lol |
| 11:43.39 | Guerin | csalad: ask uhu-linux |
| 11:43.44 | Guerin | csalad: or install debian |
| 11:43.51 | Gnea | !uhu |
| 11:43.53 | csalad | i have debian.... |
| 11:43.56 | miki | my caps button is turned on but im using small letters, and when its off im using big ones |
| 11:43.58 | xam | gozz: your xfree video driver doesn't support the accellerated xvideo extension. Use 'mplayer -zoom' to do software scaling as others have suggested |
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| 11:44.04 | Gnea | csalad: no, you said you have uhu |
| 11:44.06 | Guerin | distro named after glue? |
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| 11:44.12 | tyler | how to u jump to a file in mc with a keystroke? |
| 11:44.13 | zignig | miki: on console ? |
| 11:44.13 | Gnea | csalad: what's uhu? |
| 11:44.14 | csalad | just it only engish, and my wife.... |
| 11:44.19 | magus_ | xam: as i told him ... mplayer -zoom :P |
| 11:44.23 | Guerin | csalad: what's only english? |
| 11:44.27 | csalad | can't speak in english |
| 11:44.29 | Gnea | csalad: you're going to send your wife over? |
| 11:44.33 | zignig | csalad: and .au |
| 11:44.46 | csalad | ? |
| 11:44.48 | csalad | what? |
| 11:44.50 | zignig | Guerin: and .au |
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| 11:44.52 | TBBle | miki: Try hitting each of your shift keys in turn, one of them might be stuck... |
| 11:44.54 | Gnea | LMAO |
| 11:44.56 | zignig | csalad: whoops ....:) |
| 11:44.56 | Gnea | csalad: sorry |
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| 11:45.16 | miki | TBBle: nah, i can live with it, it will reset upon restart probably |
| 11:45.21 | Guerin | csalad: hungarian? Debian can do magyar. |
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| 11:45.31 | csalad | ? |
| 11:45.32 | csalad | how? |
| 11:45.45 | csalad | i use kde. |
| 11:45.51 | Guerin | csalad: debian can do HUNDREDS of languages. |
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| 11:46.02 | Guerin | csalad: i don't know about kde, but I presume it's the same. |
| 11:46.11 | csalad | i can't found.... |
| 11:46.29 | miki | csalad: #debian-kde |
| 11:46.35 | miki | or just #kde |
| 11:46.43 | csalad | ... |
| 11:46.45 | csalad | ok... |
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| 11:47.43 | Guerin | resiak: good start |
| 11:47.54 | jm_ | maybe, once he installs Debian |
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| 11:48.00 | resiak | Ah, yes, that too |
| 11:48.13 | keherman | wtf is my pam_console.so file!?!?! I need it! |
| 11:48.28 | CleeK- | I don't find the packages of etch or sid on debian ftp servers. Are they in pool/ ? |
| 11:48.36 | jm_ | everything is in pool |
| 11:48.40 | Guerin | CleeK-: where else? |
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| 11:48.49 | CleeK- | I wonder |
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| 11:49.34 | CleeK- | got it |
| 11:49.45 | CleeK- | (i thought this pool was only for stable, sorry) |
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| 11:50.44 | xored | how to let pppd send his logs to another,. custom file ? |
| 11:51.03 | jm_ | xored: why? you can use syslog-ng for that |
| 11:51.08 | jberg | ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/etch/ how many of those cd's do i need? all 16? |
| 11:51.16 | resiak | !d-i jberg |
| 11:51.16 | dpkg | jberg, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 11:51.26 | xored | syslog-ng ? |
| 11:51.57 | jberg | resiak, that is only for stable? |
| 11:52.17 | resiak | There do exist Etch netinstallers, but I forget where |
| 11:52.23 | csalad | hy i use uhu-linux(deb. pack.). i want upgrade my kde. wich type of kde must i download? |
| 11:52.25 | xored | jm_: what is that ? i mean i just dont wann grep all the time. The second thing is i wnat easy send the logs via mail etc. I mean i can write a script which greps all the pppd and writes it in a other file. but there must be a direct way, or is it not in the idea of linux ? |
| 11:52.37 | jm_ | xored: apt-cache show syslog-ng |
| 11:52.40 | resiak | csalad: uhu-linux is not Debian. |
| 11:52.56 | csalad | but the uhu use deb. packages |
| 11:53.17 | fireba11 | csalad: yes .. so what ? |
| 11:53.18 | resiak | csalad: Mandrake uses RPMs but is not Red Hat. |
| 11:53.26 | jberg | resiak, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ should i go with the netinst cd-image? |
| 11:53.31 | csalad | ok... i know |
| 11:53.33 | magus_ | rpm was developed by red hat |
| 11:53.37 | fireba11 | jberg: i woudl suggest so, yes |
| 11:53.38 | resiak | jberg: Yeah |
| 11:53.41 | csalad | but i belive you help me.... |
| 11:53.41 | jberg | ok thanks |
| 11:53.44 | xored | jm_: thank you very much |
| 11:53.51 | resiak | csalad: Why? This is a Debian support channel |
| 11:53.54 | inetd_ | whats the coolest thing u done with debian? |
| 11:54.08 | tralala | a fridge? |
| 11:54.14 | resiak | Sex in a ditch. |
| 11:54.18 | csalad | because uhu channel is nothing... |
| 11:54.19 | bkankur | hello friend channel for embedded debian |
| 11:54.21 | resiak | !they don't know |
| 11:54.21 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 11:54.40 | keherman | debian does not include pam_console.so ?? how can i get it? |
| 11:55.25 | inetd_ | keherman: apt-file search pam_console.so |
| 11:55.39 | jm_ | like I said, that's not a standard PAM module |
| 11:55.57 | keherman | inetd_, no it is not included |
| 11:56.01 | tralala | csalad: there are a lot of debian based distributions but we don't know them all. The best you can get here is a debian answer for your non-debian quesiton. It might work or it might scrap your whole distribution. If you are ready to take this risk you might get the debian answer. |
| 11:56.14 | Guerin | or you might just get flamed |
| 11:56.22 | keherman | inetd_, it is nowhere to be found |
| 11:56.28 | Guerin | tralala: don't encourage people to ask offtopic questions |
| 11:56.31 | inetd_ | keherman: then dont need it |
| 11:56.44 | csalad | tralala: ok... sorry |
| 11:56.48 | Guerin | if we start with that, the ubuntu hordes will return |
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| 11:57.00 | zignig | Guerin: noooooo! |
| 11:57.07 | IdahoEv | can anyone tell me how to (1) see which ports are open via ssh tunnel and (2) close tunnels that have been opened? |
| 11:57.08 | keherman | inetd_, yes i need it very much! my LDAP users cannot access the local /dev/dsp device!!!?! |
| 11:57.25 | inetd_ | keherman: check perm |
| 11:57.40 | Guerin | IdahoEv: man netstat |
| 11:57.43 | inetd_ | keherman: make sure they are in the audio group |
| 11:57.45 | keherman | inetd_, thats exactly why i need pam_console! |
| 11:58.12 | keherman | inetd_, no it doesnt work that way -- i only want people physically at the machine to have access to /dev/dsp |
| 11:58.35 | zignig | IdahoEv: port 22 ( destination ) |
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| 11:59.21 | Alexandar | does the kernel need an initrd listed to boot? |
| 11:59.38 | Guerin | Alexandar: depends on the kernel |
| 11:59.48 | IdahoEv | Guerin: thanks, I can see the open ones there. How do I close one? |
| 11:59.50 | Faust_ | Hi there! I've got a funny problem: everytime I start debian, the clock is one hour in advance. I guess that is because my hardwareclock isn't in GMT but in local time (and I am at GMT+1). But this shouldn't be a porblem - I remember that this could be set somewhere - but where? |
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| 12:00.03 | Guerin | IdahoEv: man kill |
| 12:00.10 | Alexandar | my new one doesnt have one and it had a "kernel panic" , so i listed the older one |
| 12:00.12 | bbrazil | Faust_: /etc/default/rcS |
| 12:00.17 | bbrazil | Faust_: see also: tzconfig |
| 12:00.26 | Faust_ | bbrazil: thanks, I will check this |
| 12:00.26 | Guerin | Faust_: tzconfig; hwclock |
| 12:00.29 | Alexandar | and it still had a panic that it couldnt find the modules |
| 12:00.43 | IdahoEv | bummer, i was hoping there was an option to ssh that would do it |
| 12:00.47 | Guerin | Alexandar: use a debian kernel |
| 12:00.57 | Guerin | IdahoEv: why would there be? |
| 12:01.14 | Alexandar | it is from the apt-get, trying to compile my own |
| 12:01.19 | inetd_ | keherman: pam_console is |
| 12:01.21 | IdahoEv | since it was the tool that opened it, it seemed marginally logical... |
| 12:01.22 | inetd_ | a hack with bad security and that debian should not use it. |
| 12:01.33 | IdahoEv | at least, at 4:00am it did |
| 12:01.43 | Alexandar | but ive found out i can bumf in new modules and bumf out old modules etc |
| 12:01.48 | tralala | Alexandar: generally the recommendation that you will get here is to use a debian kernel. If you like to compile you are on your own. |
| 12:02.15 | ice_1963 | which kernel do i need to install for a AMD ?? |
| 12:02.23 | Alexandar | what cpu? |
| 12:02.29 | ice_1963 | yes |
| 12:02.31 | Alexandar | try amd-k7? |
| 12:02.36 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 12:02.42 | gozz | thanks |
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| 12:03.49 | Faust_ | bbrazil, Guerin: so hwclock --localtime should (hopefully) do the trick? |
| 12:03.57 | weissi | keherman: hi, i'm back for 45 minutes ;-) |
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| 12:04.00 | Alexandar | tralala, any support with adding / remving modules from current kern? |
| 12:04.05 | Alexandar | removing* |
| 12:04.07 | weissi | keherman: did you resolve your problem? |
| 12:04.08 | inetd_ | !tell keherman about pam_devperm |
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| 12:04.29 | Guerin | Alexandar: all debian kernels support module loading/unloading |
| 12:04.38 | inetd_ | keherman: try pam_devperm |
| 12:04.39 | Guerin | Alexandar: once again, I say: use a debian kernel. |
| 12:04.46 | Alexandar | i am =/ |
| 12:04.50 | keherman | weissi, not yet -- someone told me about pam_group.so! |
| 12:05.01 | Guerin | Alexandar: if you were, then it'd have come with an initrd |
| 12:05.05 | Alexandar | well atleast i think i am =/ i did use the netinst |
| 12:05.08 | Alexandar | it did |
| 12:05.11 | tralala | Alexandar: Guerin means a binary debian kernel |
| 12:05.15 | inetd_ | keherman: libpam-devperm |
| 12:05.17 | Guerin | Alexandar: then what's the problem? |
| 12:05.19 | bbrazil | Faust_: until the next reboot I think |
| 12:05.33 | Alexandar | current one has issues with my hardware |
| 12:05.43 | inetd_ | keherman: apt-cache show libpam-devperm |
| 12:05.59 | Guerin | Alexandar: use a newer debian kernel. |
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| 12:06.05 | tralala | Alexandar: apt-get a newer version |
| 12:06.13 | Alexandar | this is a newer / testing one =? |
| 12:06.15 | Alexandar | =/ |
| 12:06.26 | Alexandar | it has ISSUES with MODULES |
| 12:06.29 | Guerin | Alexandar: can you be a little bit less specific? |
| 12:06.36 | Alexandar | i can |
| 12:06.43 | Alexandar | hi need help |
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| 12:06.46 | Guerin | Alexandar: like, don't mention ANY versions or release names, or ANYTHING that might be of use to us. |
| 12:06.47 | Alexandar | less specific enough? |
| 12:06.54 | Faust_ | bbrazil, hmm, that's what I just found out :-) But how can I change this? In /etc/default/rcS utc is set to no! |
| 12:06.55 | keherman | inetd_, hrmm might be useful! |
| 12:07.00 | Alexandar | hold on |
| 12:07.07 | tralala | Alexandar: you are not following the best path to ask for help |
| 12:07.08 | Gnea | !tell Alexandar -about ask |
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| 12:07.31 | Alexandar | i was taking the cookie >.> |
| 12:07.36 | cyrix | Hi all |
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| 12:07.56 | bbrazil | Faust_: dunno then, just make sure your /etc/localtime is right |
| 12:08.32 | Faust_ | it is. |
| 12:08.35 | cyrix | Is there a way to setup debian on a box with only 16mb ram? the gui installer needs 24mb - is there way to do it without the gui installer? |
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| 12:08.51 | Faust_ | Hmm - maybe my assumption is wrong and meanwhile I do use UTC in the hw clock??? |
| 12:08.59 | Faust_ | bbrazil, thanks anywhile - I will play a bit more |
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| 12:09.52 | weissi | keherman: pam_group.so seems useful, but I can't remind having used it in my setup (config lost unfortunately, because system became unuseful) |
| 12:09.54 | inetd_ | keherman: modify /etc/logindevperm to match your needs |
| 12:09.54 | Alexandar_ | right i'm using |
| 12:09.58 | juice` | does anyone know any bandwidth statistics tool ? i look for apt-get search bandwidth or network statistics and i tried like 6 or 7 (bandwidthd - was using A LOT of resources, strace showed it was doing 1000's operations per second, iptop - doesnt hold its log , iptotal - was showing me wrong numbers, bmon/bwbar/bwm - doesnt log anything, and i want statistics for day/week/month and so on...) |
| 12:10.05 | Alexandar_ | 2.6.12-1-386 #1 Tue Sep 27 12:41:08 JST 2005 |
| 12:10.09 | Guerin | cyrix: woody will install on that little. sarge might, if you have swap. |
| 12:10.31 | PsySine | how can can i remova a package from the database with the installed packades without removing the entire package? |
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| 12:10.56 | Guerin | PsySine: you want to remove a package from the list of what's installed, but keep the package installed? |
| 12:10.58 | juice` | i just have 1 server and i need for this 1 server bandwidth usage statistics, to see that for example i used 1000GB in month |
| 12:10.58 | cyrix | juice` : try vnstat |
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| 12:11.10 | petemc | juice`: ifconfig |
| 12:11.11 | PsySine | Guerin: yes |
| 12:11.13 | fireba11 | juice`: MRTG ? |
| 12:11.23 | Guerin | PsySine: no can do. |
| 12:11.30 | PsySine | Guerin: i only want the files of the pakcage to be left |
| 12:11.42 | fireba11 | PsySine: why ? |
| 12:11.42 | Guerin | PsySine: why would you want to, anyway, unless you want to cover your tracks? |
| 12:11.57 | Alexandar_ | so is it posible to remove modules from the precompiled kernel 2.6.12? |
| 12:11.59 | inetd_ | juice`: cricket, cacti, opennms, nagios, and many more |
| 12:12.04 | inetd_ | juice`: just pick one |
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| 12:12.09 | magus_ | Alexandar: modconf |
| 12:12.10 | juice` | fireba11: wouldnt it be a little overkill ? i mean to install mrtg/ssnmp and such, just for one host |
| 12:12.11 | PsySine | i want to keep apt-get from bothering about a package |
| 12:12.16 | Alexandar_ | ta |
| 12:12.38 | fireba11 | juice`: maybe .. bit if oyu can't find anything else doing the job .. |
| 12:12.39 | Guerin | PsySine: fix the problem. |
| 12:12.45 | juice` | petemc: it doesnt show stats for day/month, besides i don't understand how it works its always showing me only summary for a day or something, and its reseting after reboot i think |
| 12:12.48 | zumbi | i have a synps2 mouse, what device is my mouse? i just have /dev/gpmdata or /dev/ttyS0, but none of them work |
| 12:12.58 | Alexandar_ | magus_, do i need to cd to a certain directory? |
| 12:13.00 | juice` | cyrix: thx i will try |
| 12:13.02 | cyrix | thanks Guerin :) |
| 12:13.04 | PsySine | what about the flag "hold"? man dpkg says "A package marked to be on hold is not handled by dpkg" |
| 12:13.14 | juice` | inetd_: ok thx too :) going to have some more tests |
| 12:13.15 | Alexandar_ | nm |
| 12:13.18 | resiak | PsySine: What package is this? |
| 12:13.21 | Guerin | PsySine: 'hold' means the package won't be upgraded |
| 12:13.22 | inetd_ | juice`: apt-get show slurm |
| 12:13.23 | magus_ | Alexandar: nope ... root$> modconf |
| 12:13.31 | inetd_ | juice`: apt-cache show slurm |
| 12:13.31 | weissi | keherman: do you have "nss_base_group" in the meanwhile (I'm sure I needed that) |
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| 12:14.03 | juice` | inetd_: does it hold its data somewhere? |
| 12:14.11 | zumbi | !tell carapijo about root |
| 12:14.24 | juice` | inetd_: its just saying in description its 'realtime' |
| 12:14.37 | PsySine | the thing is a package "depends" on another package which is not nessecary |
| 12:14.52 | PsySine | and i want to save every possible space |
| 12:15.11 | Guerin | PsySine: packages don't depend on packages which aren't necessary |
| 12:15.17 | inetd_ | juice`: unfortnately no :( |
| 12:15.20 | Alexandar_ | magus_, afaik this only lets me install modules =/ |
| 12:15.36 | juice` | inetd_: i need it to work constantly, so i can know when i'm close to overexceed my bandwidth limit |
| 12:15.47 | PsySine | Guerin: it is only a plugin for the package! |
| 12:15.53 | Guerin | PsySine: details |
| 12:15.59 | magus_ | Alexandar: u can remove them too |
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| 12:16.23 | PsySine | ok xchat depends on tcl and python for plugins |
| 12:16.26 | tralala | Alexandar_: do you want to prevent some modules from autoloading? |
| 12:16.38 | Alexandar_ | That might work |
| 12:16.38 | PsySine | whish together use 22 MB of space |
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| 12:16.56 | PsySine | and i really need that space |
| 12:17.25 | tralala | Alexandar_: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 12:17.58 | Guerin | PsySine: wtf. If you need space, why are you installing an app which needs all of gtk2? |
| 12:18.13 | Alexandar_ | ty |
| 12:18.20 | bkankur | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:18.47 | poison | Hi all, I have a question about stinkypete's glibc: I'm using the mysql-server-5.0 package from dotdeb but I get a lot of crashes in my syslog: is it possible that the maintainer didn't use the stinkypete glibc and that my mysql server crashes because of that? |
| 12:18.53 | PsySine | Guerin: i have other apps wich depend on gtk |
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| 12:19.04 | PsySine | and gtk doesn't take much space |
| 12:19.08 | Guerin | PsySine: ok, if xchat can work wwithout python and/or tcl, you'd need to either rebuild it without those things, or edit the control file to remove those deps |
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| 12:19.19 | Guerin | PsySine: but the latter will probably break stuff. |
| 12:19.25 | inetd_ | juice`: lets see if i can put together something for u |
| 12:19.39 | poison | in other words: do I have to build the package from source and how exactly can I do that if I need to? |
| 12:20.08 | PsySine | Guerin: do you know what --auto-deconfigure (dpkg) does? |
| 12:20.12 | Guerin | PsySine: if it DOESN'T break stuff, and xchat can work fine without tcl and/or python, you should file a bug against xchat, to separate it out into an xchat package and an xchat-plugins package |
| 12:20.20 | Guerin | PsySine: nope. |
| 12:20.28 | juice` | inetd_: i looked for something small, cricket, cacti, opennms, nagios and so on are whole systems of monitoring... hmm |
| 12:20.49 | PsySine | Guerin: good idea how can i do that? |
| 12:21.31 | juice` | inetd_: i'm testing vnstat, it seems very small and nice, but i don't know where it gets its data :) |
| 12:21.36 | Guerin | PsySine: do what? |
| 12:21.48 | juice` | inetd_: it seems from /proc/ but when? |
| 12:21.55 | PsySine | Guerin: file a bug |
| 12:22.06 | juice` | inetd_: do i have to run it periodically :) i'm not sure |
| 12:22.09 | Guerin | PsySine: /msg dpkg bts |
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| 12:22.23 | PsySine | ok tanks |
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| 12:25.18 | tralala | PsySine: Tanks?! Are you going for a war? ;) |
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| 12:25.24 | juice` | ok nevermind, i found it at /etc/cron.d. its perfect :) (vnstat) |
| 12:25.42 | PsySine | tralala: haha typo ;) |
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| 12:26.35 | inetd | juice`: actually vnstat will do the job for you...like cyrix said |
| 12:26.40 | inetd | juice`: vnstat keeps a database |
| 12:26.49 | juice` | inetd: yes it seems great :) |
| 12:27.04 | burnproof | anyone use open-xchange here ? |
| 12:27.13 | juice` | inetd: the author of this program was going the same path and ended writing this, so it covers my needs. thanks again |
| 12:27.36 | inetd | juice`: np |
| 12:27.42 | Guerin | !anyone use open-xchange? |
| 12:27.42 | dpkg | No, no one uses open-xchange, not even the people who use it. |
| 12:27.58 | elephantMan | I have to unmount all my hdd to repartition it using cfdisk ? |
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| 12:28.16 | burnproof | dpkg: thanks anyway |
| 12:28.16 | dpkg | burnproof: bitte |
| 12:28.32 | Guerin | elephantMan: no, but if you don't, you'll need to reboot to rewrite the partition table of anything you changed which was mounted. |
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| 12:28.43 | tralala | dpkg: bot! |
| 12:28.44 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
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| 12:29.34 | zignig | !kick dpkg |
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| 12:30.13 | bonden | Hello. Is there any nice GUI program for logging apache - that cooperate with the access.log, or something like that? |
| 12:30.46 | Guerin | bonden: wtf? |
| 12:30.55 | Guerin | bonden: you mean a log analyser? |
| 12:31.02 | lizardX | boden: try awstats |
| 12:31.23 | burnproof | bonden: you could try also webalizer |
| 12:32.04 | inetd | bonden: awstats is very nice..also webalizer....but webalizer is less eyecandy |
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| 12:32.27 | inetd | Guerin: do you have a prefered wm? |
| 12:32.34 | Guerin | inetd: i have several. |
| 12:32.44 | burnproof | inetd: :) well for me it's suffice enough :p |
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| 12:32.58 | poison | hmz, I've installed the stinkypete glibc and now I can't install any package (Package fakeroot is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted or is only available from another source) |
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| 12:33.19 | zumbi | dpkg, moo |
| 12:33.20 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 12:33.49 | bonden | guerin: wtf!? whats your problem? |
| 12:33.52 | inetd | Guerin: most pref then |
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| 12:33.57 | bonden | burnproof,inetd: thanks alot! |
| 12:34.02 | Guerin | inetd: evilwm |
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| 12:34.10 | Haukkari | Oi there, mates |
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| 12:34.19 | Guerin | bonden: i didn't understand what you meant. |
| 12:34.20 | inetd | Guerin: eek..k..hehe... might aswell use fmwm ;) |
| 12:34.30 | Haukkari | How come Debian's KDE 3.4 isn't listening to what /usr/share/apps/kdesktop/* is saying? |
| 12:34.36 | Guerin | inetd: also known to use openbox and xfce4 |
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| 12:34.42 | Haukkari | I need to get some items on the KDE desktop by default, for all users, and AFAIK, that's the only way |
| 12:35.06 | Guerin | Haukkari: #debian-kde might be more use to you |
| 12:35.19 | Haukkari | Guerin: ah, there's #debian-kde? Thanks! :) |
| 12:35.19 | inetd | Guerin: ahh thats better..those are decent :) |
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| 12:35.33 | Guerin | evilwm is decent! |
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| 12:35.40 | Guerin | it's so evil it's good! |
| 12:35.47 | PsySine | Guerin: look, someone has already had the same problem as I http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=331531 |
| 12:36.08 | Guerin | PsySine: nice. |
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| 12:38.42 | inetd | when u idle here...do u guys get disconnected sometimes? and lose end up rejoining automatically as different nick? |
| 12:38.59 | Guerin | PsySine: three months old. Typical. |
| 12:39.07 | Guerin | PsySine: a one-line change. |
| 12:39.18 | Guerin | inetd: yeah, freenode is a bit flakey |
| 12:39.21 | inetd | i understand thats coz the other nick hasnt timedout...but its so annoying having to login again rejoin channels |
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| 12:40.02 | PsySine | inetd: never happens to me |
| 12:40.15 | FinnTux | is it just me or is security.debian.org a bit slow atm? |
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| 12:40.24 | azeem | inetd: decent irc clients rejoin your usual channels automatically |
| 12:40.25 | backblue | anyone uses Ekiga in debian? |
| 12:40.28 | keherman | inetd, devperm did not work as it should :-( |
| 12:40.31 | Guerin | inetd: set your irc client timeout to 30 minutes or something |
| 12:40.46 | Guerin | !anyone use Ekiga in debian? |
| 12:40.46 | dpkg | No, no one uses Ekiga in debian, not even the people who use it. |
| 12:41.06 | azeem | backblue: do you have specific questions about it? |
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| 12:41.45 | zinx | !anyone use the proper line of questioning? |
| 12:41.45 | dpkg | No, no one uses the proper line of questioning, not even the people who use it. |
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| 12:42.33 | inetd | azeem: infact it rejoins...but coz i will be joining as unregistered name some channels like #freebsd cant join |
| 12:42.49 | inetd | keherman: it worked for me..i was testing it the other day |
| 12:43.20 | keherman | inetd, with ldap? |
| 12:43.21 | inetd | Guerin: how would this help? timesout after 30mins meaning it will re-connect ? |
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| 12:44.01 | sylvisj | Blah |
| 12:44.03 | sylvisj | Had my first problem on Testing this morning |
| 12:44.06 | inetd | keherman: ldap doesnt have anything to do with it...this is a seperate module...this doesnt authenticate u..this only set few env up |
| 12:44.15 | sylvisj | Had to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and disable dri for some reason |
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| 12:44.51 | inetd | keherman: session required pam_devperm.so, so its more of a session, not auth |
| 12:44.57 | keherman | inetd, i added "session required pam_devperm.so" to /etc/pam.d/kdm |
| 12:45.40 | inetd | keherman: before or after auth? |
| 12:45.57 | keherman | inetd, then i told /etc/logindevperm --> ":0 0600 /dev/dsp" |
| 12:46.04 | keherman | inetd, after autho |
| 12:46.16 | inetd | keherman: did you modify /etc/login.defs and /etc/logindevperm aswell? |
| 12:46.26 | keherman | inetd, login.defs look fine |
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| 12:46.30 | inetd | keherman: :0 is display :0 |
| 12:46.45 | inetd | keherman: i thought you want console? |
| 12:46.46 | keherman | inetd, that is correct |
| 12:46.56 | keherman | inetd, well i want X |
| 12:47.00 | keherman | and console |
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| 12:47.13 | keherman | anyone sitting on the machine physcially in the chain infront of it |
| 12:47.14 | inetd | keherman: then just add the users to audio group...geez |
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| 12:47.21 | keherman | inetd, its not that simple |
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| 12:47.35 | keherman | inetd, the ldap server is red hat, and has no audio group |
| 12:47.59 | sylvisj | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1636 <--- can anyone tell me how to fix this error? |
| 12:48.00 | inetd | keherman: omg so thats why u dicking around with this pam modules? |
| 12:48.09 | keherman | inetd, :-) yep! |
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| 12:48.28 | inetd | keherman: ldap server is not controlled by u? |
| 12:48.31 | keherman | inetd, i havent been able to get clietns to talk to the damn redhat server |
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| 12:48.37 | keherman | inetd, yes it is |
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| 12:48.52 | keherman | inetd, but i dindt originaly set it up |
| 12:48.57 | keherman | inetd, it runs ppc64 |
| 12:49.25 | sylvisj | Needing help w/ that error.. |
| 12:49.27 | fireba11 | resiak: i just red the log of the mythtv channel .. omfg ^^ |
| 12:49.28 | inetd | keherman: it doesnt hav to be audio group ...what eva group u want make sure u giv perm /dev/dsp |
| 12:49.54 | inetd | fireba11: do you use mythtv? |
| 12:50.09 | Dewi | sylvisj: I think there's an invalid lvalue |
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| 12:50.25 | fireba11 | inetd: not .. my TVbox still runds windows since everything is working fine .. no reason to chage it .. yet :-) |
| 12:50.30 | inetd | fireba11: i had trouble getting that dam thing to work..specially coz of the scanner doesnt lock on channels |
| 12:50.37 | sylvisj | Dewi: How would I fix that? :s |
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| 12:50.46 | keherman | inetd, well how? |
| 12:50.47 | Dewi | sylvisj: what are you actually building? |
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| 12:51.04 | inetd | keherman: chgrp mygroup /dev/dsp |
| 12:51.07 | jonasgk | hi, how can i tell dpkg which packages i already installed, but not by .deb files, but by source and selfcompiled? |
| 12:51.19 | epsilon | sylvisj: complain at wineX developer that their CVS won't build at this moment and expect no reply |
| 12:51.30 | azeem | jonasgk: equivs might be what you want |
| 12:51.31 | Dewi | jonasgk: if it's not a .deb, is it really a package? |
| 12:51.42 | jonasgk | no, its a source file |
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| 12:51.57 | azeem | jonasgk: so you did a manual make; make install? |
| 12:52.08 | keherman | inetd, it is getting audio group now |
| 12:52.21 | juice` | is there any way to stop postfix bouncing mails to sender, after unsucessfull try to relay it to another host? |
| 12:52.22 | jonasgk | but dpkg resolves the dependencys and i don't think it knows the by-source-installed packages, or does it? |
| 12:52.22 | inetd | keherman: ? |
| 12:52.23 | sylvisj | Dewi: WineX cvs |
| 12:52.27 | juice` | oops not here. |
| 12:52.31 | azeem | jonasgk: no |
| 12:52.34 | azeem | !equivs |
| 12:52.34 | dpkg | well, equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell apt you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt-get install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, or see also "usrlocal" |
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| 12:52.56 | resiak | fireba11: How did you get a link to it? |
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| 12:53.16 | jonasgk | thanks |
| 12:53.22 | backblue | azeem: i dont know how to install it, i need it, but i dont know how, i tryed to compile, but it does not worked out. |
| 12:53.24 | miki | hello once again :) i just fucked my linux GRUB by reinstaling windows, now it simply wont show and just goes to windows... i tried to use mbr faq, but it seems that i got some problems with mounting my main linux filesystem :( heres what "fdisk -l /dev/hda" is showing http://pastebin.com/522097 |
| 12:53.25 | keherman | inetd, what i mean is that /dev/dsp in ithe audio group, but the ldap user is not... |
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| 12:53.44 | inetd | done any encoding with mencoder ? |
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| 12:53.52 | azeem | backblue: then you probably have to wait a bit till it gets uploaded to unstable and later transitions to testing/gets backported to stable |
| 12:53.57 | fireba11 | resiak: you postet a link to that site here some time ago and i bookmarked it |
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| 12:54.09 | NiklasH_work | just a quick one: how do i set the architecture i want to build for when using apt-get source? |
| 12:54.17 | inetd | keherman: what is a common group that ur users are on? |
| 12:54.20 | kasha | Hi, anybody know analog mmencode in debian sarge ? |
| 12:54.25 | backblue | azeem: i'm with testing |
| 12:54.27 | Dewi | miki: what's wrong with that? |
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| 12:54.44 | fireba11 | juice`: sure . but that wouldn't be a good idea |
| 12:54.44 | jonasgk | another question ;). i was playing around with the dpkg-configfiles and accidently removed everything in /var/lib/dpkg/info . Is this a problem or could be one? (at the moment everything works). |
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| 12:54.52 | miki | Dewi: when im trying to mount part2, it shows: special device does not exist |
| 12:55.12 | miki | Dewi: also some ppl earlier were complainging about number of my IDE controllers |
| 12:55.17 | inetd | keherman: create a group called audio ( make sure its the same gid as ur deb box) and put all the users in that group |
| 12:55.19 | miki | Dewi: ppl from this channel |
| 12:55.30 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 12:55.31 | resiak | fireba11: Cunning |
| 12:55.33 | fireba11 | jonasgk: ugh .. |
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| 12:55.43 | keherman | inetd, thats the problem, RHEL "rpcuser" conflicts!!! |
| 12:55.53 | fireba11 | resiak: pretty amusing though :-) |
| 12:55.56 | keherman | inetd, it is gid 29! |
| 12:56.05 | jonasgk | i just started to install, it's not too bad if i had to reinstall, but do i have to? |
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| 12:57.02 | fireba11 | jonasgk: i#m not 100% sure where those files are used, but i guess since its dpkg it could be a problem when upgrading or installing additional packages later |
| 12:57.30 | inetd | keherman: then create a new one or change it on the debbox side |
| 12:57.51 | Dewi | jonasgk: I don't know if dpkg will be able to upgrade packages without that stuff |
| 12:58.02 | Dewi | jonasgk: for me that directory contains configuration file backups |
| 12:58.10 | Mazingaro | please, I've got a problem on a K6 III TSC (loosing too many thicks)... |
| 12:58.12 | inetd | keherman: then you can do something like this |
| 12:58.33 | miki | anyone can help me with mounting my main file system ? |
| 12:58.44 | inetd | keherman: find /dev -group audio -exec chgrp newgrp {} \; |
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| 12:59.17 | fireba11 | mikiwhere is your problem ? |
| 12:59.31 | inetd | goin to sleep now...too tired ...hav to work early 2morrow :( |
| 12:59.33 | inetd | nites |
| 12:59.37 | jonasgk | yes, i think i better reinstall, before i get some bad surprises later |
| 12:59.37 | Dewi | night inetd |
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| 12:59.44 | jonasgk | thanks for your help, bye |
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| 13:00.15 | miki | fireball: i can paste u smth |
| 13:00.21 | miki | fireba11: hello once again :) i just fucked my linux GRUB by reinstaling windows, now it simply wont show and just goes to windows... i tried to use mbr faq, but it seems that i got some problems with mounting my main linux filesystem :( heres what "fdisk -l /dev/hda" is showing http://pastebin.com/522097 |
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| 13:01.13 | Dewi | miki: why isn't the actual error message in your pastebin? |
| 13:01.46 | Dewi | miki: or what you typed |
| 13:01.52 | miki | Dewi: i cant copy it, its not error, its thing wich is shown by fdisk |
| 13:02.17 | fireba11 | ? |
| 13:02.21 | miki | shouldnt it be host0 not host2 ? |
| 13:02.23 | Dewi | miki: that's a list of partitions, with "hdg" at the top. there is nothing inherently wrong that I can see |
| 13:03.14 | keherman | inetd, i have no common group that everyone is in -- it appears to me that this could be done indpendent of the group attibute!! |
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| 13:03.35 | humbletech99 | why don't you just reinstall grub |
| 13:03.44 | miki | Dewi, heres what im typing then: "mount -t ext2 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 /dsk", after this im getting: Special device does nto exist. |
| 13:03.46 | miki | not* |
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| 13:04.02 | humbletech99 | boot gentoo cd and enter grub cli and go from there |
| 13:04.11 | xoz | miki: what cd are you using for rescue? |
| 13:04.43 | NiklasH_work | i'm trying to build openssl from source for i686, but i can't get dpkg to use anything other that i386. how do i do that? |
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| 13:05.11 | blunted | ok im back with a working X :) |
| 13:05.12 | miki | xoz: Im using debian netinstall, but Busybox wont work fine. Im using some EBCD 0.6.1 PRO prog, wich can load it own version of old linux |
| 13:05.25 | xoz | NiklasH_work: what do you mean? source means you can compile for whatever arch |
| 13:05.38 | miki | EBCD is bootable cd for resquing both windows and linux |
| 13:05.38 | henk | Hi, how much work is it to get exim4 & spamassasin to work on a debian stable. I noticed that there is a spamassassin package on debian, if i install that will it 'just work' ? or does it take a lot of exim4 hacking to do ? |
| 13:06.01 | fireba11 | henk use sa-exim package |
| 13:06.10 | NiklasH_work | xoz: yeah, but i'm trying to use dpkg-buildpackage -b to build a package, and it only uses i386 |
| 13:06.22 | valdyn_ | NiklasH_work: the 386 packages are named 386 packages for technical reasons, that does not mean that a 386 package cannot be compiled for 686 ( debian packages are compiled for 586 in fact ) |
| 13:06.22 | fireba11 | henk: then it will "jsut work" only some config options you might want to tweak |
| 13:06.24 | NiklasH_work | or am i not doing it the Real Way (tm)? |
| 13:06.44 | henk | fireba11, cool |
| 13:06.50 | xoz | miki: try using a cd rescue with the latest kernel. also, it seems that the naming convention uses devfs |
| 13:07.07 | NiklasH_work | valdyn_: ok, so how do i know what arch it uses when i compile with dpkg? |
| 13:07.13 | xoz | NiklasH_work: what about dpkg-cross? |
| 13:07.18 | valdyn_ | NiklasH_work: dpkg cant compile |
| 13:07.34 | NiklasH_work | *dpkg-buildpackage |
| 13:07.46 | henk | fireba11, and integration with clamav? will that be hard ?> |
| 13:07.53 | valdyn_ | NiklasH_work: read debian/rules in the source directory |
| 13:07.56 | miki | xoz: could u give me link to any good recuecd prog ? |
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| 13:08.12 | NiklasH_work | valdyn_: great, thanks! :) |
| 13:08.31 | valdyn_ | NiklasH_work: dpkg-buildpackage just runs 'debian/rules binary' |
| 13:08.32 | xoz | miki: unfortunately, debian doesn't have. try ubuntu livecd or knoppix, etc |
| 13:09.01 | valdyn_ | NiklasH_work: ( probably 'debian/rules clean' first, but that doesnt concern you i guess ) |
| 13:09.27 | xoz | miki: or you can use the installer but at the menu, you skip other configs until you go to the grub installation step. |
| 13:09.32 | miki | xoz: wich one got smallest install? i dont have ultra fast connection so im trying to get smth small |
| 13:10.29 | xoz | miki: just don't let the installer format your existing partition except maybe swap |
| 13:10.30 | NiklasH_work | ok, debian/rules seems to use dpkg-architecture to check the arch, but when i try to set it via dpkg-architecture -ai686 it says 'unknown architecture' |
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| 13:10.49 | fireba11 | henk: not really .. use amavisd-new it got the config part already, you just need to eneable it as far as i recall |
| 13:11.08 | Eulex | NiklasH_work, there's no i686 architecture in debian. |
| 13:11.15 | valdyn_ | NiklasH_work: you're on the wrong track, you arent trying to compile for a diffrent architecture |
| 13:11.16 | fireba11 | henk: there are tutorials on that, just google for one |
| 13:11.20 | Eulex | NiklasH_work, there's i386, however |
| 13:11.35 | valdyn_ | NiklasH_work: you are trying to 'optimise' for a specific i386 CPU |
| 13:11.56 | NiklasH_work | ah, ok. i mixed stuff up, i guess... :) |
| 13:12.15 | NiklasH_work | so how do i get it compiled optimized for an Athlon XP? |
| 13:12.32 | valdyn_ | NiklasH_work: the ARCH 386 is not to be mistaken for the CPU intel 386, as debian does not even run on true 386 cpus |
| 13:12.49 | valdyn_ | NiklasH_work: but renaming the arch would be work for no technical benefit |
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| 13:14.22 | valdyn_ | NiklasH_work: you look at debian/rules and edit the compile flags, there's no general rules for this as build systems differ, try search for CCFLAGS maybe or somesuch |
| 13:14.38 | loca|host | hello |
| 13:14.56 | loca|host | is there any softs that make massmailing ? |
| 13:15.02 | NiklasH_work | valdyn_: thanks, now i think i get it. |
| 13:15.18 | fireba11 | loca|host: please don't ask rethorical questions |
| 13:16.04 | blunted | hello i just installed debian and i notice that it use gnome as default desktop .. can anyone tell me the command to change my window manager? and also im using Xfree86 .. do i need to change to Xorg ? |
| 13:16.41 | xoz | blunted: what wm? |
| 13:16.51 | valdyn_ | loca|host: say what you want exactly, 'bash' is good enough for many mass mailings |
| 13:16.54 | loca|host | fireba11, rethorical ? |
| 13:16.56 | blunted | i would like to try fluxbox for awhile |
| 13:17.05 | vin` | blunted: xfree should work fine, use aptitude or synaptic to install WMs and other stuff. |
| 13:17.07 | blunted | can i set it so i can choose |
| 13:17.12 | blunted | vin ok |
| 13:17.14 | xoz | blunted: what display manager are you using? |
| 13:17.26 | blunted | is Xorg 'better' than xfree ? |
| 13:17.27 | loca|host | valdyn_, fast one, for ISP sending 100000 mails |
| 13:17.35 | fireba11 | loca|host: you getting spam every day, right ? so there obviously is software for mass mailing |
| 13:17.37 | Dewi | an... ISP, eh? |
| 13:17.43 | pngwn | loca|host, go phish |
| 13:17.47 | valdyn_ | loca|host: so you are asking us to inform you on how to spam? |
| 13:17.52 | loca|host | Internet Services Provider ! |
| 13:17.58 | blunted | and just one more question .. my keyboard settings are incorrect..how can i change this ? |
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| 13:18.04 | blunted | xoz: gdm |
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| 13:18.10 | elephantMan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.15 | Dewi | loca|host: which ISP? |
| 13:18.21 | tralala | loca|host: are you one? Is this how a wannabe spammer describes himself nowadays? |
| 13:18.23 | jm_ | blunted: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 13:18.32 | xoz | blunted: gdm should give you a list of wms. did you install fluxbox? |
| 13:18.33 | Dewi | loca|host: and ISPs don't... send that much mail. |
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| 13:18.42 | blunted | xoz: no not yet |
| 13:18.42 | Dewi | loca|host: the ones that do send a lot of mail have software already to do it |
| 13:18.44 | sylvisj | How do I delete a non-empty dir? |
| 13:18.57 | loca|host | tralala, dont pretend u know what u dont know |
| 13:18.58 | valdyn_ | sylvisj: rm -r |
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| 13:19.06 | tralala | sylvisj: with -rf and a lot of caution |
| 13:19.13 | xoz | blunted: gdm doesn't provide choices for gdm? |
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| 13:19.25 | azeem | loca|host: maybe you should describe what you want to do |
| 13:19.27 | blunted | i will check now |
| 13:19.33 | blunted | im on gnome right now |
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| 13:19.49 | koolr | it does not have md5? (http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/) |
| 13:19.50 | loca|host | we r a Tunisian ISP and we're sending mails for our customers every day, we r using advanced emailer on win platforms |
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| 13:20.18 | loca|host | and am seeking if i can migrate to debian cause we use it much more |
| 13:20.22 | azeem | loca|host: exim4, postfix and sendmail all are capable of handling things like that on GNU/Linux |
| 13:20.32 | loca|host | i know |
| 13:20.39 | azeem | loca|host: however, operating mail serers for a lot of users on GNU/Linux needs experience and knowledge |
| 13:20.42 | loca|host | i want fast one, multithreaded ! |
| 13:20.46 | Dewi | loca|host: are you earning $ $ $ when u r an ISP? |
| 13:20.53 | azeem | Dewi: ? |
| 13:20.57 | loca|host | De_Mon, |
| 13:21.00 | koolr | it does not have md5? (http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/) |
| 13:21.01 | loca|host | Dewi, |
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| 13:21.05 | azeem | Dewi: how is that question relevant? |
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| 13:21.09 | valdyn_ | loca|host: while read i; do echo "text" | mail -s "UNIQUE OFFER" $i;done < adresslist ( and that is even "multithreaded" ) |
| 13:21.22 | loca|host | no |
| 13:21.24 | Dewi | azeem: I think it's pretty relevant |
| 13:21.25 | loca|host | it's not |
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| 13:21.38 | henk | fireba11, thnx |
| 13:21.40 | valdyn_ | loca|host: yea it is, as soon as its handed to your multithreaded mailer |
| 13:21.42 | loca|host | with advanced mailer it opens up to 40 threads |
| 13:21.51 | TimeRider | anyone got probs with apt-get? there are some security updates I wanted in but it seems they not getting updated to latest.. |
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| 13:22.04 | valdyn_ | loca|host: the processing of 100000 mails be 'mail' is chicked shit |
| 13:22.04 | TimeRider | sources.list has the correct data for security updates |
| 13:22.19 | TimeRider | but apt-cache is still showing the old version |
| 13:22.27 | loca|host | valdyn_, i dont understand, xcuse me |
| 13:22.36 | jm_ | you need to run apt-get update for it to show new version |
| 13:22.40 | TimeRider | done |
| 13:22.53 | TimeRider | but apt-get upgrade is showing nothing new added |
| 13:23.00 | jm_ | so there is nothing new |
| 13:23.18 | TimeRider | yet security mailing list mailed Me that an update IS available |
| 13:23.23 | TimeRider | and My version is still older |
| 13:23.27 | jm_ | which update? |
| 13:23.30 | fireba11 | TimeRider: there might be new versions that aren't automaticalla updated because that woudn't work like exim3 > exim4 |
| 13:23.35 | TimeRider | in fact I don't think have any updates since last week |
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| 13:23.49 | Zugschlus | fireba11: what does sa-exim do better than exim4-daemon-heavy with the content scanning extension? |
| 13:23.58 | valdyn_ | loca|host: chicked shit = no big deal |
| 13:24.03 | TimeRider | surely it would tell Me that they were there though? just that it might break installation |
| 13:24.08 | TimeRider | update is clamav |
| 13:24.09 | Dewi | valdyn_: do you mean "chicken"? |
| 13:24.25 | vin` | chicked chicken |
| 13:24.35 | valdyn_ | Dewi: probably |
| 13:24.35 | loca|host | valdyn_, i tried it and it stay very long time |
| 13:24.35 | jm_ | Version: 0.84-2.sarge.5 |
| 13:24.37 | jm_ | WFM |
| 13:24.37 | fireba11 | Zugschlus: don't know what that does exactly so i can't tell the difference .. why ? |
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| 13:24.47 | valdyn_ | loca|host: then configure your mailer better |
| 13:24.51 | Zugschlus | fireba11: because you're recommending sa-exim, so you should know what it does |
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| 13:25.11 | keherman | inetd_, did you use --> ":0 0600 /dec/dsp" for KDE logins? |
| 13:25.12 | Zugschlus | and I am actually wondering why people keep recommending a third-party extension do to things that exim can do natively |
| 13:25.12 | TimeRider | clamav_0.84-2.sarge.5.deb is the updated file, mine has same number but .5 |
| 13:25.15 | valdyn_ | loca|host: if you're an isp then you know how to setup an MTA |
| 13:25.26 | TimeRider | bugger |
| 13:25.33 | TimeRider | .7 is the update |
| 13:25.34 | TimeRider | lol |
| 13:25.35 | jm_ | actually one of the DSA-s is also showing .7 |
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| 13:25.53 | fireba11 | Zugschlus: i only know that using sa-exim you get the option to refuse accepting mail from certain hosts at all .. not by default but you can set it up taht way if someone keeps spamming you ... so you don't waste resources processing the mails from there |
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| 13:25.58 | TimeRider | I have 5, yet no update... |
| 13:26.08 | blunted | ok i used dpkg-reconfigure console-data to change my keyboard settings but it has had no effect .. do i need to reboot first? |
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| 13:26.28 | fireba11 | Zugschlus: also didn#t knwo there was a native way to do it .. |
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| 13:26.43 | Dewi | loca|host: have you tried X-Spam-Turbo version 0.6? |
| 13:26.47 | tralala | blunted: no, you don't need to reboot unless you want to run a new kernel |
| 13:26.56 | blunted | hmm |
| 13:27.01 | jm_ | it looks like Packages file there is fucked |
| 13:27.03 | blunted | well my keyboard didnt change :( |
| 13:27.05 | loca|host | spam ? :) |
| 13:27.05 | Dewi | loca|host: I think a lot of ISPs use it |
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| 13:27.11 | TimeRider | blunted:could log out of console and back in? |
| 13:27.16 | xoz | blunted: man xmodmap also |
| 13:27.28 | fireba11 | hm .. security.debian.org is rather slow today .. is that only me ? |
| 13:27.42 | Dewi | fireba11: and you're complaining? |
| 13:27.48 | Dewi | fireba11: I guess it could be a hax0r conspiracy |
| 13:27.54 | TimeRider | seemed okay here, but then it didn't work 100% at getting the updates up to date |
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| 13:27.58 | streuner | fireba11: its only you. |
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| 13:28.02 | Dewi | fireba11: but I prefer to think it's just debian suddenly becoming really cool |
| 13:28.02 | xoz | blunted: possible that gnome messes with the setting. you should use gnome panel to set it because it overrides dpkg-reconfigure setting |
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| 13:28.13 | Zugschlus | fireba11: there is a native way to do so, see spec.txt chapter 40, esp 40.2 |
| 13:28.14 | blunted | ok |
| 13:28.18 | jm_ | hmm Packages.gz has .7 listed |
| 13:28.20 | streuner | Hole:4 http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/non-free Release [114B] |
| 13:28.20 | streuner | Es wurden 179kB in 3s geholt (45,7kB/s) |
| 13:28.25 | fireba11 | Dewi: it was like that with the last kde updates .. ;-) |
| 13:28.40 | jm_ | bah I am an idiot, it shows both .5 and .7 for me ;) |
| 13:28.48 | fireba11 | streuner: weird .. am only getting about 2kb/s from there |
| 13:28.49 | jm_ | should pay more attention |
| 13:28.51 | TimeRider | for kde I usually just edit the /etc/X11/x11-config file and put keyboard in manual, dunno if same for gnome |
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| 13:28.57 | Dewi | fireba11: I'm still pissed off about the sudo update the other day |
| 13:29.08 | streuner | fireba11: just use DSL ;-) |
| 13:29.13 | Dewi | fireba11: spent half my work day pulling apart my dev workstation trying to work out how I'd broken it |
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| 13:29.28 | TimeRider | if it's a desktop console issue, starting x again should fix the keyboard for you |
| 13:29.31 | fireba11 | Zugschlus: thanks for telling me .. will use that next time i need to set up a mailserver |
| 13:29.39 | Dewi | fireba11: and it was just a new "security feature" |
| 13:30.41 | fireba11 | streuner: that's my server with 100 MBit/s |
| 13:30.41 | blunted | xoz perfect thank you |
| 13:30.41 | Dewi | fireba11: DSL is better |
| 13:30.41 | xoz | blunted: which one? |
| 13:30.42 | Dewi | fireba11: yours sucks. |
| 13:30.42 | Dewi | fireba11: so there. |
| 13:30.48 | jm_ | fireba11: security.debian.org points to three hosts |
| 13:30.51 | blunted | i used gnome settings to change it to to uk |
| 13:30.58 | Dewi | okay, I'm going to go and drink more - but it will mean stopping annoying #debian citizens |
| 13:31.05 | Dewi | happy australia day everyone :P |
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| 13:31.15 | TimeRider | it still not working blunted? |
| 13:31.26 | TimeRider | restart gnome |
| 13:31.30 | blunted | yes its working now |
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| 13:31.34 | blunted | thats why i said thanks :) |
| 13:31.35 | TimeRider | it'll work :) |
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| 13:32.09 | Zugschlus | fireba11: I would be interested whether there is something that sa-exim does better than the content scan extension |
| 13:32.16 | xoz | blunted: problem is that if you switch to another wm, it won't inherit the changes...gnome and kde ideas for messing the setting is not really good... oh well. |
| 13:32.36 | fireba11 | streuner: hm .. something is emssed up there ... just got a connection reset ... ^^ the stuff from the regular debian mirror was fast as usual |
| 13:32.49 | rss | I am trying build(static) pango enabled firefox1.5 in Sarge, it says it is not able to find a X library called "-lXt" |
| 13:32.52 | fireba11 | Zugschlus :-) |
| 13:32.53 | blunted | ok but i set it with dpkg-reconfigure console-data also .. maybe that will help ? |
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| 13:33.07 | rss | I have apt-get searched and installed lxtools |
| 13:33.12 | xoz | blunted: yep |
| 13:33.46 | rss | still ./configure returns the error: ac_add_options --enable-crypto |
| 13:33.46 | rss | ac_add_options --enable-svg |
| 13:33.46 | rss | ac_add_options --enable-canvas |
| 13:33.46 | rss | ac_add_options --enable-update-packaging |
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| 13:34.16 | valdyn_ | !lose rss |
| 13:34.16 | dpkg | rss: You Lose. |
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| 13:34.22 | SimonRaven | !tell rss -about paster |
| 13:34.23 | rss | I lose |
| 13:34.24 | valdyn_ | rss: apt-get install libxt-dev |
| 13:34.24 | rss | sorry |
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| 13:34.52 | Steven_6040 | anyone got xvncserver starting with kdm here? |
| 13:35.25 | rss | sorry folks, that paste flood was due to stuck keys in my keyboard |
| 13:35.54 | fireba11 | Steven_6040: what are you trying to do ? |
| 13:35.54 | rss | I wanted to paste only three words. |
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| 13:36.02 | blunted | ok so i have installed fluxbox .. what do i need to do to set it so i can choose my wm on startup |
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| 13:36.28 | \xe6var | bah! |
| 13:36.36 | mutek | Hi Sirius H! |
| 13:36.37 | \xe6var | the bug I filed with reportbug didn't go through |
| 13:36.55 | xoz | blunted: gdm should provide a menu. try logging out and tour around the login menu |
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| 13:37.15 | Steven_6040 | fireba11, im trying to get debian to start kdm, which in turn will open a display with Xrealvnc. I've updated /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers and yet when I run /etc/init.d/kde start it doesnt start the vnc process |
| 13:37.17 | blunted | xoz k |
| 13:37.31 | mutek | Sirius_Black: what was the octave thing all about? |
| 13:37.37 | TimeRider | try kdm instead of kde |
| 13:37.55 | Brianetta | Can anybody tell me where I might find the debian package, 'dhclient'? ASsume for a moment that I don't have any Debian installation. It's for a debian derivative that doesn't come with that package. |
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| 13:38.08 | Steven_6040 | oops, type. yes i dont think there is a kde script in there anyway |
| 13:38.12 | Steven_6040 | *typo |
| 13:38.19 | valdyn_ | Brianetta: debian has no such package |
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| 13:38.34 | mutek | Sirius: naturally... |
| 13:38.42 | Brianetta | valdyn_: Thanks - that makes the forum post I'm readin gmake less snese (: |
| 13:38.48 | mutek | Sirius, okay - principle is the same, though :-) |
| 13:38.48 | zinx | Brianetta: on ftp.debian.org, with all the other debian packages |
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| 13:39.10 | valdyn_ | Brianetta: at least dhcp-client and dhcp3-client provide a binary of that name though |
| 13:39.10 | Steven_6040 | its so annoying. i have gentoo, slackware, centos all on the same pc starting a vnc server using Xservers but not debian |
| 13:39.18 | mutek | Sirius - u want to try another channel - very noisy in here, and this is a bit off topic... |
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| 13:39.52 | mutek | Sirius: excellent :-)))) join and win :-) |
| 13:40.00 | zinx | uhm |
| 13:40.07 | zinx | is Sirius actually speaking? |
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| 13:40.09 | zinx | i'm not seeing anything |
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| 13:40.25 | jm_ | I was wondering the same thing - either it;'s me who's confused, or someone else is |
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| 13:40.35 | ice_1963 | hello i have kde installed right now... can i install fluxbox an run both?? |
| 13:40.47 | Steven_6040 | does debian have a file like rc.conf for setting the DISPLAYMANAGER and XSESSION variables? |
| 13:40.52 | xoz | virtual stranger |
| 13:40.59 | bb7 | ho, syslog entries are in UTC, but system time is in CET, 1hour difference. i want the syslog to use also CET time, how can i do that? |
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| 13:41.08 | valdyn_ | Steven_6040: /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 13:41.09 | zinx | ice_1963: you can run fluxbox with the KDE panel, yes |
| 13:41.16 | Steven_6040 | valdyn_, ta |
| 13:41.18 | zinx | ice_1963: if that's what you're asking |
| 13:41.36 | ice_1963 | yes it is |
| 13:41.38 | zinx | ice_1963: now, i don't know how to tell KDE to use fluxbox instead of kwm, but I know it can be done :) |
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| 13:41.51 | mutek | Sirius join me on #piano |
| 13:42.05 | bb7 | hi, to all: syslog entries are in UTC, but system time is in CET, 1hour difference. i want the syslog to use also CET time, how can i do that? |
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| 13:42.24 | ice_1963 | ok tu zinx |
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| 13:43.31 | fireba11 | streuner: ah .. am getting reasonable speeds agamin .. maybe soem other box in the rack went haywire |
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| 13:44.00 | valdyn_ | !utc |
| 13:44.01 | dpkg | i guess utc is Universal Time Convention, aka GMT. BST is British Summer Time, our version of daylight savings time. Timezones are expressed as UTC plus-or-minus some difference, e.g. UTC-0500 or UTC+0930 |
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| 13:45.41 | Brianetta | Got it, thnks (: |
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| 13:46.25 | bb7 | mail.log is in utc too, i need a popBeforeSmtp script, this script reads the log files but it doesnt work correctly if the date/times in the logfiles aren't correct |
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| 13:47.01 | jm_ | syslog uses timezone setting for timestamps |
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| 13:48.53 | bb7 | when i type "date" in the console i have the right date, but syslog is using utc, always 1 hour behind |
| 13:49.15 | jm_ | then you have perhaps messed with the setting synce syslogd was started |
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| 13:50.09 | bb7 | can i restart syslogd ? |
| 13:50.12 | vin` | could this be linked to the hwclock utc bug? |
| 13:50.16 | bb7 | productive server;) |
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| 13:53.07 | bb7 | ok syslogd restart solved the problem! thank you! |
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| 13:55.25 | humbletech99 | ice_1963: you can run both, but once you discover fluxbox you might not go back! |
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| 13:57.15 | ivh | hi, is there a way to get rid of an area (left by some stupid app) that is not redrawn by X, without restarting it? |
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| 13:57.37 | zinx | ivh: ehh |
| 13:57.53 | zinx | ivh: it sounds like something's wrong with your hardware |
| 13:58.08 | fireba11 | ^^ |
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| 13:58.26 | ivh | such things are hard to explain, so for illustration: http://www.thomasmarquart.net/tmp/Bildschirmfoto-2.png |
| 13:58.29 | valdyn_ | ivh: is that app really gone? |
| 13:58.37 | valdyn_ | ivh: how did you test if its gone? |
| 13:58.39 | ivh | yes it is |
| 13:58.44 | jm_ | tried xrefresh? |
| 13:58.54 | ivh | valdyn_: with ps aux | grep mpla |
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| 13:59.30 | zinx | ivh: it's one of three things... 1) hardware, 2) drivers, 3) the app isn't really gone |
| 13:59.32 | ivh | jm_: just tried - still there. |
| 13:59.42 | zinx | it's probably hardware or some bad bad driver interaction |
| 13:59.44 | jm_ | ivh: then you probably won't be able to get rid of it |
| 13:59.47 | valdyn_ | ivh: you need to restart X then |
| 14:00.07 | zinx | ivh: make sure your card has sufficient cooling.. |
| 14:00.11 | ivh | could it be a prob with backing-store? |
| 14:00.16 | zinx | ivh: it could |
| 14:00.18 | jm_ | yes might be |
| 14:00.31 | valdyn_ | ivh: which app was that? doesnt look like mplayer to me |
| 14:00.55 | ivh | gmplayer - I think it was a warning-box |
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| 14:01.13 | ivh | (I did not inted to start that - my browser did ;-)) |
| 14:01.34 | valdyn_ | ivh: kill your browser |
| 14:01.43 | phyrster | Do I need to generate many locales if I want to use the language belongs to that locale? or just ONE utf-8 locale is enough? |
| 14:01.53 | ivh | it's onboard-graphics and cooling was never a problem... |
| 14:02.22 | ivh | browser's gone - box still there :-/ |
| 14:02.29 | zinx | probably drivers, then |
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| 14:02.44 | zinx | disable backing store and restart X :/ |
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| 14:03.05 | ivh | I tried other apps the use video-overlay, without success |
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| 14:03.41 | ivh | well, ok. restart it is. |
| 14:03.46 | ivh | thanks anyway... |
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| 14:06.00 | phyrster | for example, if I want to use Russian, Japanese, will one locale in the system en_US.UTF-8 enough? |
| 14:06.17 | phyrster | or I need to generate locales for both languages as well? |
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| 14:07.28 | Haukkari | Where can I get KDE 3.5? |
| 14:07.35 | netman1 | How's unstable allways called again? |
| 14:07.38 | ice_1963 | sid |
| 14:07.42 | netman1 | Thanks |
| 14:07.43 | Haukkari | ice_1963: it's in sid? |
| 14:07.49 | Haukkari | oh, that wasn't for me |
| 14:07.49 | Haukkari | :/ |
| 14:07.52 | Haukkari | !kde3.5 |
| 14:07.54 | ice_1963 | yes |
| 14:08.13 | Haukkari | !marillat |
| 14:08.14 | dpkg | [marillat] (from memory, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid>) |
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| 14:08.38 | jeremias | is there ready-made .deb for mplayer? (up-to-date) |
| 14:08.46 | azeem | !marillat |
| 14:08.46 | dpkg | marillat is, like, (from memory, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid>) |
| 14:08.57 | jeremias | thx |
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| 14:09.48 | Eulex | !kde 3.5 |
| 14:09.48 | dpkg | from memory, kde 3.5 is http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0/ |
| 14:10.00 | nvz | abrotman: go stillers! |
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| 14:10.09 | abrotman | nvz: go -ot! |
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| 14:10.27 | nvz | abrotman: pfft. I can only really pay attention to one channel at a time, and this one is more interesting |
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| 14:10.43 | deeLer | i have added a second identical harddisk to my system, can i convert it to software raid 1 without reinstalling debian ??? |
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| 14:10.55 | abrotman | nvz: you wish .. this one is filled with people asking question .. the other one is full of sex! |
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| 14:11.07 | abrotman | deeLer: there's a software raid howto |
| 14:11.11 | nvz | abrotman: if split screen in irssi wasnt so complicated and sucky I could probably watch two channels or more at once |
| 14:11.21 | deeLer | abrotman, got any urls on that ? |
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| 14:11.22 | abrotman | sure sure |
| 14:11.26 | nvz | abrotman: yeah this one has a topic. |
| 14:11.29 | abrotman | deeLer: tldp.org .. along with the rest |
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| 14:12.34 | abrotman | OT! |
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| 14:13.51 | Sander-nl | Can someone tell me what text editor to use if I want to use the most conventional formats like .doc? |
| 14:13.58 | Haukkari | Eulex: how can I use that 3.5 repository? :/ |
| 14:14.01 | Sander-nl | or is MS Word the only app to read that? |
| 14:14.03 | nvz | I was using firefox (sarge) yesturday and suddenly I was asked for my password when clicking a link on a site. that password was one of 5 stored in firefox. and it was there when I initally logged into the site. then it dissapeared during surfing and all of the other 4 passwords are still there. It makes no sense to me |
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| 14:15.33 | fireba11 | Sander-nl: openoffice ? |
| 14:15.35 | vin` | Sander-nl: abiword, open office, antiword... |
| 14:15.54 | Sander-nl | would OpenOffice be the best choice? |
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| 14:16.37 | vin` | not using .doc is the best choice. |
| 14:16.38 | fireba11 | depends on what you want to do, but i think it's pretty nice |
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| 14:17.23 | Joene | Sander-nl, or you can also try to convert it with wv |
| 14:17.58 | Sander-nl | well I need some office suite anyway so I'll try OpenOffice :) |
| 14:18.07 | resiak | Sander-nl: Abiword is a nicer word processor (IMHO) than OOo, but OOo handles really complicated Word documents better. Of course, the best solution is not to use .doc. If you must exchange data with Word users, use RTF. |
| 14:18.28 | stew | use .txt |
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| 14:19.05 | Sander-nl | well it's a lot of documents I download (for study) are in .doc format |
| 14:19.24 | myren | ntfs still isnt stable in linux is it? |
| 14:19.31 | resiak | It's fine for _reading_? |
| 14:19.32 | resiak | s/?// |
| 14:19.51 | stew | myren: sure it is |
| 14:19.57 | myren | yeah.... :-/ I just wish I could run ext3 or reiser on windows. |
| 14:20.01 | resiak | You ... can? |
| 14:20.27 | myren | I tried formatting ntfs in linux and running it in windows and windows really didnt like it at all |
| 14:20.43 | deeLer | i have added a second identical harddisk to my system, can i convert it to software raid 1 without reinstalling debian ??? can't find much about it on google or tldp |
| 14:21.05 | resiak | Oh look! The first result for "ext3 windows" is an ext2/3 driver for Windows! Similarly for "reiserfs windows"! |
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| 14:21.20 | jm_ | fsdext2 can be used for reading, WFM |
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| 14:21.35 | bitje | hi |
| 14:21.37 | X2 | hi, guyw |
| 14:21.41 | X2 | hi, guys |
| 14:21.45 | myren | holy madre |
| 14:22.00 | bitje | is there a libical deb package ? |
| 14:22.02 | myren | in the worlds of the ancient klf, wtf is going on? |
| 14:22.26 | stew | deeLer: yes, this page has the basic steps: http://xtronics.com/reference/SATA-RAID-Debian.htm |
| 14:23.35 | X2 | Jan 25 16:06:49 deb kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) |
| 14:23.35 | X2 | Jan 25 16:06:49 deb kernel: VM: killing process XFree86 |
| 14:23.46 | jm_ | heh |
| 14:24.16 | X2 | i dont have swap but seems I have some free memory and free buff/cache |
| 14:24.47 | Eulex | X2, hmm, what does free say? |
| 14:25.02 | X2 | is my desktop, Linux deb 2.4.27-2-686-smp #1 SMP Mon May 16 16:55:31 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 14:25.14 | X2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:25.15 | X2 | Mem: 256312 221324 34988 0 13604 114756 |
| 14:25.15 | X2 | -/+ buffers/cache: 92964 163348 |
| 14:25.15 | X2 | Swap: 0 0 0 |
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| 14:25.19 | resiak | \o/ |
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| 14:28.21 | X2 | sorry :( |
| 14:28.43 | X2 | now is Mem: 256312 252984 3328 0 1400 33968 |
| 14:29.07 | X2 | 3M free and 24M cache/buff free |
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| 14:31.51 | bkankur | hello friend i need some help regarding toolchain for i386.. which channel i need to contact |
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| 14:32.22 | bkankur | specific channel for toolchain queries |
| 14:32.36 | Guerin | bkankur: which toolchain? |
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| 14:32.55 | bkankur | toolchain for i386 via arch. |
| 14:33.04 | Guerin | bkankur: WHICH toolchain? |
| 14:33.12 | Guerin | there isn't just one toolchain in the universe |
| 14:33.22 | azeem | bkankur: what do you want to do? |
| 14:34.42 | deeLer | what can i do about this : /dev/sdb1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here! |
| 14:34.46 | deeLer | tried rebooting |
| 14:34.57 | resiak | deeLer: Is it mounted? |
| 14:35.05 | Guerin | deeLer: unmount it. |
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| 14:35.26 | deeLer | no, i've just created a partition on it, now i want a filesystem |
| 14:35.56 | Guerin | deeLer: if you've just created a partition on a mounted volume, you need to reboot to write the thing. |
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| 14:36.22 | Guerin | deeLer: once you've rebooted, as long as it's not mounted, you should be able to make a filesystem on it. |
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| 14:36.36 | deeLer | i did Geurin .. |
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| 14:37.01 | Guerin | deeLer: did the partition table get written correctly? |
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| 14:37.14 | recens | hello |
| 14:37.25 | recens | how is everyone this night/morning |
| 14:37.41 | resiak | It's neither for me, so... |
| 14:37.50 | recens | day? |
| 14:38.05 | deeLer | yes Guerin, when i do a fdisk -l ... it shows correctly , even after the reboot |
| 14:38.05 | recens | afternoon |
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| 14:38.38 | Guerin | deeLer: what command are you using to make a filesystem on it>? |
| 14:38.54 | deeLer | mkefs.ext3 |
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| 14:39.15 | deeLer | oh now i see, it might be mdadm... ill turn that off ... just a sec |
| 14:39.25 | Guerin | deeLer: no wonder it didn't work, if you didn't tell it what partition to write to. |
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| 14:40.28 | deeLer | i mean Guerin : mkefs.ext /dev/sdb1 |
| 14:40.43 | harm1988 | hi |
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| 14:41.12 | recens | how could I send the contents of a file to a command |
| 14:41.14 | jm_ | it's pretty important that you give the actual commands you have used, otherwise people will be annoyed, because they will have to dig out all the details from you separately |
| 14:41.24 | Guerin | deeLer: $ mkefs.ext |
| 14:41.27 | Guerin | bash: mkefs.ext: command not found |
| 14:41.43 | SerajewelKS | does debian have a utility to calculate the hex WEP key from the ASCII one? |
| 14:41.57 | recens | I want to send a pid stored in a file to /bin/kill |
| 14:42.11 | jm_ | kill $(cat filename) |
| 14:42.12 | zinx | SerajewelKS: if you use wpa_supplicant, i think it can convert.. |
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| 14:42.22 | zinx | SerajewelKS: wep_key0="foobar" or such |
| 14:42.27 | recens | ty |
| 14:42.31 | Wyzard | SerajewelKS: Don't use WEP |
| 14:42.38 | zinx | SerajewelKS: But it probably won't tell you what the key is unless you enable debug and connect to something :) |
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| 14:42.45 | resiak | xargs kill < filename! |
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| 14:43.01 | SerajewelKS | Wyzard: what kind of answer is that |
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| 14:43.25 | SerajewelKS | zinx: do most wireless cards support ASCII keys or is it a function of the driver to convert the ASCII to a binary key? |
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| 14:43.36 | Wyzard | SerajewelKS: WEP is very insecure -- use WPA |
| 14:43.37 | zinx | SerajewelKS: it's the driver's job |
| 14:43.45 | deeLer | still not workingm any hints ? |
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| 14:44.08 | deeLer | root@sanserver:~# mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 |
| 14:44.09 | deeLer | mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) |
| 14:44.10 | zinx | SerajewelKS: there's no such thing as an ascii key as far as the hardware is concerned.. for some hardware, there's not even such a thing as WEP as far as it's concerned |
| 14:44.19 | deeLer | - /dev/sdb1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here! |
| 14:44.23 | SerajewelKS | Wyzard: i'm not my network admin |
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| 14:44.59 | SerajewelKS | zinx: i figured as much, so if i really feel like figuring it out without google i can vi the acx100 sources ;) |
| 14:45.09 | bodq | hello |
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| 14:45.22 | stew | SerajewelKS: "iwconfig eth1 key s:asciikey" will set it in ascii, if you then run iwconfig | grep key you will see the hex, if you want to set it permanantly, man wireless |
| 14:45.24 | bodq | how would I determine the arch the kernel has been built for? |
| 14:45.45 | resiak | deeLer: mount | grep sdb |
| 14:45.50 | stew | SerajewelKS: you can just put the ascii key into interfaces |
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| 14:46.13 | SerajewelKS | stew: i need it to convert it for a Windows driver that doesn't support ASCII keys |
| 14:46.14 | stew | deeLer: do you have sata or ide? |
| 14:46.28 | SerajewelKS | stew: but by the looks of things it's just a straight-up ASCII-to-binary conversion... |
| 14:46.29 | deeLer | returns nothing resiak |
| 14:46.32 | stew | SerajewelKS: i told you how you could find the hex for a given ascii key |
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| 14:46.39 | deeLer | stew: sata |
| 14:46.56 | Guerin | one line of perl... |
| 14:47.04 | deeLer | whqt is this : (ps aux entry) : /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg |
| 14:47.08 | SerajewelKS | stew: except you didn't... not according to my backscroll anyway |
| 14:47.25 | SerajewelKS | stew: err... yeah i don't have a wireless adapter on this box, or i'd do that =/ |
| 14:47.26 | stew | 09:46 < stew> SerajewelKS: "iwconfig eth1 key s:asciikey" will set it in ascii, if you then run iwconfig | grep key you will see the hex |
| 14:47.48 | Guerin | deeLer: it's a process taking one byte at a time from /proc/kmsg and putting it in /var/run/klogd/kmsg |
| 14:47.49 | stew | SerajewelKS: if you don't have a wireless adapter, you don't need a wep key |
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| 14:48.15 | stew | SerajewelKS: oh, its a windows problem, not a debian problem |
| 14:48.33 | SerajewelKS | stew: yeah just wondering if there was a linux util to convert |
| 14:48.36 | deeLer | Guerin, ok ... i'm just looking for processes thqt might use sdb |
| 14:48.46 | Guerin | deeLer: lsof |
| 14:48.48 | SerajewelKS | stew: since it seems to have a lot of useful things like that ;) |
| 14:48.57 | deeLer | lsof ? |
| 14:49.03 | Guerin | deeLer: lsof. |
| 14:49.14 | deeLer | waht is that ? |
| 14:49.21 | Guerin | deeLer: if you can't figure it out, drop into single (init 1) and try there |
| 14:49.27 | stew | SerajewelKS: hexdump |
| 14:49.36 | deeLer | okay ... i'' try |
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| 14:50.08 | SerajewelKS | stew: yeah i thought the key might be a hash or something |
| 14:50.18 | Guerin | deeLer: lsof is a thing you can learn about by reading 'man lsof' |
| 14:50.27 | jberg | just installed debian, but when i boot it says "loading local file system.. FAILED" what does this mean? |
| 14:50.31 | Guerin | deeLer: as bizarre as it may seem, I swear it's true. |
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| 14:50.52 | Guerin | jberg: it means something failed to load a local filesystem |
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| 14:51.08 | stew | SerajewelKS: there isn't |
| 14:51.18 | Guerin | jberg: either that, or it means that someone didn't write a script properly, and something completely different happened. |
| 14:51.49 | deeLer | damn, now i've lost ssh access by going into init 1 |
| 14:52.03 | resiak | *thunk* |
| 14:52.04 | jberg | but what is a "local file system"? |
| 14:52.18 | Guerin | jberg: a file system that's where you are. |
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| 14:52.30 | Guerin | deeLer: ... |
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| 14:53.02 | deeLer | yes |
| 14:53.07 | jberg | Guerin, so if it fails to load it, what should the effect be? |
| 14:53.22 | Guerin | jberg: whatever the effect is if it should be loaded but isn't. |
| 14:53.33 | jberg | no shit |
| 14:53.46 | Guerin | jberg: if you're sensing a lack of specificity in my answers, you might look to asking more specific questions. |
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| 14:53.57 | stew | jberg: one of your filesystems on one of the disks in this computer couldn't be mounted, so not all your data/drive space is available |
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| 14:54.13 | Guerin | so while I'm not going to wait for that to happen, I will say this: |
| 14:54.15 | Guerin | !warnings |
| 14:54.16 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 14:54.32 | umbop | hey guys, if my /var partition is a bit foobared, what's the best way for reformating it all? can i just go into single user mode and mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda3 ? |
| 14:54.43 | Guerin | umbop: /msg dpkg lost var |
| 14:54.48 | umbop | thanks |
| 14:54.52 | abrotman | umbop: can you sing too? |
| 14:54.58 | Guerin | umbop: /var is a partition you Do Not Want To Fuck With |
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| 14:55.07 | zinx | Guerin: omg noes we must have errors like "Network is busy." |
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| 14:55.24 | zinx | Guerin: and never ever warn anyone about anything unless it's so fatal it causes a system crash |
| 14:55.26 | Guerin | zinx: "Error: Success." |
| 14:55.36 | Guerin | zinx: Steve Jobs, is that you? |
| 14:55.46 | zinx | Guerin: i'm discovered! |
| 14:56.30 | Guerin | zinx: you sold pixar! YOU BASTARD! |
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| 14:57.00 | Guerin | damn you and your fruit to the compost bin of eternity |
| 14:57.05 | zinx | haha |
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| 14:57.27 | jberg | ok.. so is it common to get that error when you have installed debian? i chose the default settings for pretty much everything |
| 14:57.40 | Guerin | jberg: depends on your system. I've never seen it. |
| 14:57.57 | jberg | and any ideas how i might fix it or get a clue whats wrong? |
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| 14:58.12 | zinx | jberg: does the system appear to be working? |
| 14:58.15 | jberg | it's an old laptop |
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| 14:58.19 | tartuffe | anybody use .bat files with his ldap ...? |
| 14:58.22 | jberg | zinx, yeah i think so |
| 14:58.26 | stew | jberg: does your system actaully sucessfully boot to the point where you can read log files? |
| 14:58.28 | jberg | haven't noticed anything yet |
| 14:58.38 | zinx | jberg: has a google of the warning that doesn't seem to matter returned anything? |
| 14:58.44 | Guerin | jberg: let it roll, baby, roll. |
| 14:58.45 | rss | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:59.06 | jberg | zinx, i haven't found anything useful on google yet about it |
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| 14:59.29 | Guerin | jberg: dmesg may have more information |
| 14:59.39 | pengol | what options skip grub configuration on a new kernel installation? |
| 14:59.53 | jberg | Guerin, ok thanks |
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| 15:00.11 | Guerin | pengol: ? |
| 15:00.17 | Guerin | !wayttd pengol |
| 15:00.17 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, pengol? |
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| 15:01.55 | pengol | :) |
| 15:01.55 | pengol | LOL |
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| 15:02.59 | pengol | if I do apt-get install kernel-image-... grub doesn't get configured. Is there any option of apt that prevent it from doing it? |
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| 15:03.33 | MacSlow | Greetings everybody! |
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| 15:04.47 | Eulex | pengol, umh... grub should be reconfigured if you install a kernel image. |
| 15:05.24 | pengol | Eulex: is a fai installation |
| 15:05.41 | pengol | they set all the things up in order to do remote administation |
| 15:06.02 | pengol | I shold like to know where I can enable configuration baclk |
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| 15:08.35 | Prax01D | Is there any way to get xargs to remove leading spaces preceding a filename fed to it thru STDIN? |
| 15:08.36 | beanz | Is there a backup of packages.debian.org? Where is it? |
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| 15:08.56 | xoz | !snapshot |
| 15:08.56 | dpkg | it has been said that debian snapshot is http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
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| 15:09.14 | NiklasH_work | !source |
| 15:09.15 | dpkg | i guess source is To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space and run the following: apt-get install build-essential fakeroot && apt-get source <packagename> && apt-get build-dep <packagename>. Then cd into source directory and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot to build debs from source. |
| 15:09.44 | ForrestF | how do i install debian onto a HD that is on a ITE 8212e ATA RAID card |
| 15:10.01 | beanz | tx |
| 15:10.26 | fireba11 | ForrestF: same you isntall everywhere else ... you might need a install-cd with a new kerlen though |
| 15:10.33 | fireba11 | kernel even |
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| 15:11.00 | ForrestF | where can i find this image, |
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| 15:11.21 | fireba11 | !sarge 2.6.8 |
| 15:11.24 | fireba11 | hmm |
| 15:11.29 | fireba11 | !sarge 2.6.8-14 |
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| 15:11.39 | ForrestF | i know where to get it, just WHAT image should i get |
| 15:11.52 | fireba11 | jsut a netinstall image with a new kernel |
| 15:11.58 | Prax01D | !utsl |
| 15:11.59 | dpkg | utsl is probably Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?). If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. |
| 15:12.17 | ForrestF | i tryed that, |
| 15:12.27 | ForrestF | i dont have a HD outside of that one, |
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| 15:12.50 | ForrestF | it justs tells me i dont have any HDs |
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| 15:13.04 | yang | Is there an adduser script that can add users for a limited period of 1 month? |
| 15:13.08 | abrotman | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 15:13.08 | dpkg | hmm... sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 15:13.09 | xoz | ForrestF: tried linux26 at bootprompt |
| 15:13.18 | miki | i just erased master boot fomr my hdd, how can i install grub once again so i will have windows and linux choice ? |
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| 15:13.36 | Zerial | miki grub-install |
| 15:13.38 | NiklasH_work | yang: you could always use at to run userdel after a month |
| 15:13.49 | miki | zerial; i dunno how to get into debian now tho |
| 15:13.51 | ForrestF | or a crontab should do it |
| 15:13.59 | miki | sience i dont have grub to acces it |
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| 15:14.31 | xoz | miki: did you use the livecd as i told you? |
| 15:14.41 | miki | i had some grub-gnu prog to fix it manully, but i fucked smth and i was forced to erase master boot :( |
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| 15:15.17 | xoz | miki: are you even using debian? |
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| 15:15.51 | miki | xoz: i found out that my EBCD cd had ability to lauch GRUB by forcing it , but i was trying to edit grub by some grub floppy |
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| 15:16.47 | miki | but i messed up, so i erased it heh... |
| 15:16.47 | grendelson | I'm trying to determine how pthreads are implemented in Debian (using testing) I am working with a professor who assumes I have a RPM based distro so asks me what verison pthreads I have - I don;t get any responses when I dpkg - l | grep pthread OR from aptitude search I only get kaffe-pthreads Can anyone explain where I get pthreads.h fomr? |
| 15:16.53 | miki | EBCD = live cd mounted |
| 15:17.06 | miki | but now i cant use master boot cuz thers no grub anymore |
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| 15:17.19 | miki | maybe if i would have smth like grub autoinstall floppy or cd |
| 15:17.21 | miki | =\ |
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| 15:18.12 | xoz | miki: you will have that with a livecd |
| 15:18.39 | miki | xoz: how can i start it then ? |
| 15:18.56 | Eulex | miki, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html |
| 15:19.23 | xoz | miki: why stick with ebcd when it doesnt work |
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| 15:19.34 | miki | u know, i got GRUB-GNU self install floppy, but im foced to do everything manually, and its not easy at some point when u need to select specific stuff for your hardware |
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| 15:19.42 | stew | grendelson: pthread.h is part of libc6-dev, so "dpkg -l libc6 libc6-dev" should tell you what version you are using, you might also read /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 15:19.42 | ForrestF | it did not work, |
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| 15:20.24 | grendelson | Ahh apt-file I always forget that one... |
| 15:20.28 | grendelson | stew: thanks |
| 15:20.38 | miki | Eulex: this is exact way how i fucked my master :( |
| 15:20.51 | mrex | the microphone in skype doesnt work with oss emulation and the alsa intel-HD driver. I can hear things fine. Why would just the microphone not be working (and only in skype) |
| 15:20.52 | positron | Hi. How do I change default permissions for users home directories when adding new users? |
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| 15:21.09 | mrex | i have checked all the volume settings |
| 15:21.20 | pmak_ | i have installed the dnsmasq in my local network server, so now i can use iptables to block some sites? |
| 15:21.30 | stew | positron: dpkg-reconfigure adduser |
| 15:21.38 | Eulex | miki, you will have to know where you need to install it. |
| 15:21.42 | Eulex | !grub disadvantages |
| 15:21.43 | dpkg | grub disadvantages is probably a) not installable by users with an attention span of two seconds, or b) grub has to be able to read the file system, so may not work with all FSs, or c) when you're running grub you can't get at the online documentation, and some of the commands are not obvious |
| 15:21.47 | miki | Eulex: and i dont know wich partitions should i use for GRUB... linux one or windows one |
| 15:21.51 | petemc | pmak_: what does dnsmasq have to do with iptables? |
| 15:21.53 | positron | stew: thanks |
| 15:21.55 | miki | windows is first -= |
| 15:21.57 | miki | =\\ |
| 15:22.07 | Eulex | miki, grub can launch windows. |
| 15:22.34 | miki | Eulex: i know, but wich partition should i pick for : sertup (hd0,?) |
| 15:22.48 | miki | 0 = windows, 1 = linux |
| 15:22.57 | miki | setup* |
| 15:23.03 | xoz | positron: /etc/adduser.conf |
| 15:23.39 | miki | also,, i had some errors: Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,1)" . . . failed(this is not ffatal) |
| 15:23.52 | miki | this was from setup hd0,1 afaik |
| 15:24.07 | miki | installed with this error |
| 15:24.15 | Eulex | miki, you will need to get those files. it's in the grub package. |
| 15:24.25 | Eulex | miki, well, you should at least not do it on the windows partition. you can (1) install it on (hd0) and let grub launch windows or (2) install it on (hd0,1) to install it only for linux |
| 15:24.26 | xoz | miki: your kernel is old.. grub cannot do anything unless the kernel can detect properly the geometry of your disk. get a new livecd with a new kernel |
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| 15:24.37 | DevilChaos | hello |
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| 15:25.44 | pmak_ | petemc dsnmasq is a dns server, so all my clients will come to the server to get the dns, so i can tell to my server to reject packages that have the url www.xxx.com |
| 15:25.46 | pmak_ | right? |
| 15:25.55 | xoz | miki: if fdisk/cfdisk /dev/<partition> works, it may be ok. otherwise, don't even worry about grub if your kernel doesn't detect your hd properly. |
| 15:25.58 | DevilChaos | smoothwall is doing my head in its hanging on setup when it is creating root file system anyone know whats wrong with this or what i can do bout it? |
| 15:25.59 | petemc | pmak_: there are any number of ways to do that |
| 15:26.02 | Emillos | Hey.. can a friendly dude help me a bit with irc ?.. when i join a channal (/j #whatever), im alone in the channal. How can i fix it ? |
| 15:26.16 | NiklasH_work | pmak_: just add an entry pointing to 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts for the sites you want to block |
| 15:26.17 | jbroome | get some friends |
| 15:26.21 | xoz | Emillos: invite another Emillos |
| 15:26.25 | petemc | Emillos: join a channel with people in it |
| 15:26.32 | pmak_ | petemc can you tell me one, with out use squid? |
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| 15:26.47 | petemc | pmak_: ip route add prohibit ipaddr |
| 15:26.51 | xoz | Emillos: try /j #gentoo |
| 15:26.54 | Emillos | im pretty sure there is.. :-s |
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| 15:26.56 | Emillos | okay.. thx |
| 15:27.17 | xoz | Emillos: what channel? |
| 15:27.25 | rambo3 | can i just copy netinstall image to my usb ,boot and install from there to HD |
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| 15:27.37 | Emillos | yeah.. there's others a'ight |
| 15:27.45 | Emillos | fx #overclocking.dk |
| 15:28.05 | Emillos | there isent anyone there.. im pretty sure it usually is filled up |
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| 15:28.20 | Emillos | Can you join the channal ? |
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| 15:28.23 | pmak_ | petemc what you mean? is that an app or a cmd? where can i find info about it? |
| 15:28.29 | Eulex | Emillos, nobody there except you. |
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| 15:28.47 | jbroome | Emillos: you sure you're on the right server for that channel? |
| 15:28.48 | xoz | Emillos: check the spelling |
| 15:28.54 | ejofee | what is the name of the kde app which opens / manages the taskbar / systray / pager / etc.? |
| 15:28.57 | petemc | pmak_: its a command, there are plenty of guides on the net |
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| 15:29.08 | Emillos | im totally sure |
| 15:29.09 | NiklasH_work | Emillos: and on some clients, remove the # |
| 15:29.13 | xoz | Emillos: it's maybe in undernet |
| 15:29.28 | JRWR | i whanted to ask, how do i install debian onto a ITE 8212E ATA, thats in IDE mode, the basice sarge netinstall off the site does not seem to pick it up |
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| 15:29.53 | pmak_ | petemc what should i search for in google? ip route? |
| 15:30.14 | Eulex | Emillos, http://searchirc.com/ |
| 15:30.17 | miki | xoz:my kernel is 2.4.27-2 |
| 15:30.26 | miki | -386 |
| 15:30.38 | rambo3 | is it posible to recue a hard drive wher someone typed "sudo chmod 044 /*/* " |
| 15:30.43 | Emillos | thx for helping me out :).. |
| 15:30.43 | miki | that bootcd kernel is old, 2.4.18 |
| 15:30.50 | petemc | pmak_: yeah, look here too : http://linux-ip.net/html/ |
| 15:30.52 | rambo3 | i mean linux |
| 15:31.04 | pmak_ | petemc Oh i got it. iproute package, thanks |
| 15:31.06 | Eulex | rambo3, try using a live cd. |
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| 15:31.53 | xoz | miki: find a way for your hd to be detected properly before worrying about grub-install. as i said, try knoppix. it has good hd detection. |
| 15:32.07 | miki | Eulex: so what ur sugessting? should i do "root(hd0,1)" and then "setup (hd0)" ? |
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| 15:32.31 | fx | ls |
| 15:32.39 | De_Mon | running debian sarge and screen -ls complains about /var/run/screen not having mode 755 (it's 775) |
| 15:32.40 | miki | xoz: i think that its detected propetly, its not newest brand =\ |
| 15:32.40 | Eulex | miki, yes. grub can boot both windows and linux. |
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| 15:32.52 | itom | hi, I've eth0 xx.xx.xx.3 and eth1 xx.xx.xx.7 and I would like to use dhcpd3-server only with the eth1? tips? |
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| 15:33.11 | miki | Eulex: i had a) debian b) debian recover c) windows xp , but that was before |
| 15:33.53 | miki | Eulex: should i type anything after setup (hd0) ? |
| 15:33.53 | xoz | miki: to install grub, you have to use the root of your system, not the floppy since it will need to read /boot/grub/menu.lst in your root. you need to chroot to your system first. |
| 15:34.05 | miki | ahh |
| 15:34.27 | miki | but to do chroot, i must first read from main file system |
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| 15:34.29 | miki | and i cant load it |
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| 15:34.53 | xoz | miki: then, you'll never solve that. get a decent livecd |
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| 15:35.29 | miki | xoz: im not sure if livecd is going to work when i erased my master boot |
| 15:35.41 | zinx | miki: parted might have a partition table recovery |
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| 15:35.45 | miki | xoz: windows is my main system now, lauched by default |
| 15:35.54 | zinx | don't blindly null out your MBR, it's got the partition table in it. |
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| 15:36.16 | miki | zinx: i completly erased it, sience pc wouldnt start |
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| 15:36.27 | xoz | miki: i said already what you should do. im done. |
| 15:36.36 | zinx | testdisk seems to find partitions |
| 15:36.44 | zinx | miki: NEVER EVER ERASE THE ENTIRE MBR |
| 15:36.57 | zinx | miki: as stated, it has the partition table. Use tools that don't erase the partition table. |
| 15:37.09 | zinx | miki: i.e., reinstall some other MBR |
| 15:37.10 | xoz | !fixmbr |
| 15:37.11 | dpkg | So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target), then chroot into it (chroot /target), then run "grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub". |
| 15:37.13 | zinx | with the proper tools. |
| 15:37.27 | zinx | xoz: that's not going to help him with his erased partition table |
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| 15:38.06 | barbar_baron | hello |
| 15:38.08 | xoz | zinx: really? explain? |
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| 15:38.17 | pmak_ | petemc can i use urls with iproute? |
| 15:38.25 | zinx | xoz: the partition table is what tells the OS what filesystems are where |
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| 15:38.34 | zinx | xoz: if the OS can't find the filesystems, it surely can't mount them. |
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| 15:39.02 | barbar_baron | whats the difference between reiserfs and ext3 |
| 15:39.08 | xoz | zinx: and his windows boot so it doesn't use the partition table? |
| 15:39.10 | zinx | barbar_baron: ext3 is usable, reiserfs is not :D |
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| 15:39.27 | zinx | xoz: windows boots? nevermind then. |
| 15:39.28 | miki | xoz: windows is default for mbr imo |
| 15:39.31 | barbar_baron | why? |
| 15:39.36 | miki | its on main partition |
| 15:39.40 | scanwinder | ive got debian installed on a 166, what can i do to make it go faster? any good howto's around? |
| 15:39.50 | zinx | miki: install grub |
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| 15:39.55 | ronin | scanwinder: put it on a more poswerful machine :) |
| 15:39.59 | zinx | miki: set it up to chainload the windows bootloader |
| 15:40.04 | xoz | miki: you already have the info. now, go and work fix your mbr |
| 15:40.13 | scanwinder | ronin: to make it run faster on the machine its on |
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| 15:40.57 | miki | so im forced to dl livecd ? what i wont be able to load into debian anyway ? |
| 15:41.16 | zinx | miki: you could try a boot disk |
| 15:41.24 | zinx | but livecds are pretty helpful to have laying around |
| 15:41.41 | miki | zinx: let me tell u what i got now: |
| 15:41.49 | zinx | miki: the point of the livecd is to boot your system, so that you can install grub, so that you can boot from grub instead |
| 15:41.55 | xoz | miki: so, what you gonna do. force the issue since you know your current cds don't work. |
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| 15:42.31 | Comete | hi |
| 15:42.38 | Comete | anyone using slim here ? |
| 15:42.41 | miki | zinx: floppy with GRUB-gnu, installcd of debian(non-live) and EBCD recovery CD(wich has some very small linux installation of linux on it, but its not able to use grub anymore) |
| 15:42.48 | Comete | or Simple Login Manager ? |
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| 15:42.50 | xoz | miki: besides, if you are in #debian, you should use the installer as dpkg told you. |
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| 15:42.57 | zinx | miki: ... |
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| 15:43.07 | zinx | miki: if you can boot linux at all, then you can install grub. |
| 15:43.16 | scanwinder | anyone got any tips for making debian run faster? or know any good howto's? im running it on a really old machine |
| 15:43.18 | zinx | miki: boot, mount your filesystem, chroot, install grub. |
| 15:43.29 | zinx | miki: you may have to mount /dev and /proc in there somewhere |
| 15:43.46 | barbar_baron | is metacity window manager slow? |
| 15:43.48 | miki | yes yes but i cant get there anyway = |
| 15:43.50 | miki | =\ |
| 15:43.51 | miki | brb |
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| 15:43.58 | xoz | he can boot, his system cannot mount his fs... so? get a livecd |
| 15:44.00 | zinx | miki: then I can't help you. |
| 15:44.05 | dr1v3r | anyone know fi theer is anyway to log onto debian remotely and see it as if you were sitting infront of the monitor? but not by using a KVM |
| 15:44.18 | Sonny | well I still have the sam problem, my laptop freezes with a black screen when Itry to reboot, it closes all the programs and after the "rebooting" message it freezes, any idea? |
| 15:44.20 | zinx | miki: if i don't know what's happening, there's nothing I can do :/ |
| 15:44.24 | Eulex | dr1v3r, ssh |
| 15:44.26 | scanwinder | barbar_baron: i think metacity is a really lightweight one so probably fast |
| 15:44.36 | zinx | miki: and "can't get there anyway" is not an accurate description of what's happening :) |
| 15:44.36 | lawnchair | dr1v3r, console access you mean? |
| 15:44.37 | Eulex | !kvm |
| 15:44.37 | dpkg | i guess kvm is kernel virtual memory (kernel address space), or keyboard/video/mouse |
| 15:44.50 | scanwinder | barbar_baron: wait, no metacity is what gnome uses to manage windows |
| 15:45.00 | miki | zinx: i tried dpkg method long time ago without any sucess |
| 15:45.10 | zinx | miki: dpkg method? |
| 15:45.15 | barbar_baron | some people say others are better like Icewm |
| 15:45.17 | zinx | miki: where did dpkg enter the picture? |
| 15:45.19 | dr1v3r | yes lawnchair |
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| 15:45.29 | zinx | miki: or do you mean what the bot said |
| 15:45.35 | scanwinder | barbar_baron: i find openbox to be pretty good |
| 15:45.35 | miki | y |
| 15:45.44 | zinx | miki: so, then it "doesn't work"? |
| 15:45.46 | barbar_baron | is it faster? |
| 15:45.50 | miki | bot thigny, i couldnt mount anything |
| 15:45.51 | zinx | miki: maybe you need to pay it more? |
| 15:45.55 | scanwinder | barbar_baron: not sure |
| 15:46.02 | scanwinder | barbar_baron: i use openbox |
| 15:46.03 | zinx | miki: you couldn't? were your hands broken at the time or something? |
| 15:46.13 | Eulex | barbar_baron, everything is not about speed. try them yourself and see for yourself. |
| 15:46.17 | scanwinder | barbar_baron: anything thats based on blackbox is fast |
| 15:46.34 | miki | zinx: there were like 8ppl here trying to help me and at some point they all were like |
| 15:46.36 | barbar_baron | My screen seems somewhat sticky |
| 15:46.36 | scanwinder | barbar_baron: theres also xfce |
| 15:46.39 | xoz | openbox + conky = cool |
| 15:46.44 | miki | format hdd and reinstall debian from scratch, sry |
| 15:47.04 | zinx | miki: probably because you don't give anywhere near enough information |
| 15:47.13 | miki | lol |
| 15:47.16 | zinx | miki: i'm calling it quits myself. reinstall :D |
| 15:47.36 | barbar_baron | I configured the monitor freq. but it still seems sticky and slow |
| 15:47.44 | miki | brb anyway, 3 min |
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| 15:47.54 | zinx | miki: if you want free help, you're going to have to learn to tell people what errors you're seeing when you try to do stuff, not just "i couldn't do it" |
| 15:47.59 | barbar_baron | Its better in WinXP!! |
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| 15:48.12 | zinx | miki: it's not fun playing 20 questions with someone who's having problems |
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| 15:49.06 | zinx | barbar_baron: usually 'sticky and slow' is caused by video drivers or lack of sufficient ram |
| 15:49.22 | dr1v3r | so anyon eknow of anyway that is possible? |
| 15:49.37 | zinx | barbar_baron: refresh rate will normally only control how much flicker there is |
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| 15:49.53 | zinx | barbar_baron: though it could have adverse effects on LCD screens if X somehow manages to choose the wrong rate |
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| 15:50.19 | xoz | barbar_baron: no hw acceleration? |
| 15:50.23 | Eulex | <Eulex> dr1v3r, ssh |
| 15:50.27 | K350 | helo everyone..do somebody know how I can check what processor is running? |
| 15:50.32 | Eulex | !ssh |
| 15:50.32 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ssh is Secure SHell, the ssh package in Debian is Portable OpenSSH (www.openssh.org) or for windows clients ask me about putty, or for mac clients ask me about niftytelnet or MacSSH. It's _unwise_ to enable both RSA and pasword authentication. Ask me about rsa, or ask about winscp for a GUI SCP client |
| 15:50.41 | Eulex | K350, cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 15:50.48 | barbar_baron | I dont know |
| 15:51.02 | K350 | isthanks..can I check system info there as well or by some command? |
| 15:51.12 | m4lu6 | ahrgh |
| 15:51.14 | xoz | barbar_baron: what is your card? |
| 15:51.15 | m4lu6 | !nvidia |
| 15:51.16 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 15:51.16 | Eulex | K350, define "system info" |
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| 15:51.24 | dr1v3r | Eulex ssh is the normal remote way to access it, I need a way to access the console, the way KVM does |
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| 15:51.28 | m4lu6 | arggggg++ |
| 15:51.47 | K350 | thanks a lot!!!!!.-) |
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| 15:51.52 | m4lu6 | !nvidia |
| 15:51.52 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
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| 15:52.02 | Eulex | dr1v3r, what do you need that ssh can't offer? |
| 15:52.21 | Eulex | m4lu6, please don't spam to the channel. talk to dpkg directly instead. |
| 15:52.33 | xoz | dr1v3r: vnc? |
| 15:52.40 | m4lu6 | Eulex, thank you for your advice. |
| 15:52.48 | Eulex | m4lu6, /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 15:53.00 | dr1v3r | i need to be able to view the server screen itself so i can configure things in an application kind of way, if you know what i nmean |
| 15:53.04 | m4lu6 | Eulex, sod off. |
| 15:53.21 | xoz | dr1v3r: what about vnc? |
| 15:53.24 | m4lu6 | it was a typo. quit being bossy. |
| 15:53.26 | positron | How does the ulimit's cputime work? If I want to give users 40% of my CPU which is shared, what should I set to cputime? |
| 15:54.01 | dr1v3r | Its mainly for firewall setup, because i dont have a clue about IPtables and stuff, i was thinking of VNC but ther security risk with that would be quite bad wouldnt it? |
| 15:54.18 | jbroome | vnc is completly unencrypted |
| 15:54.19 | Eulex | dr1v3r, graphical then instead of console based? |
| 15:54.37 | xoz | dr1v3r: use port forwarding (tunnel) using ssh + vnc |
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| 15:55.17 | xoz | dr1v3r: i use it and the speed is ok |
| 15:55.38 | dr1v3r | hraphical could work yea |
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| 15:55.50 | dr1v3r | *graphical |
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| 15:56.40 | dr1v3r | how i do that then? |
| 15:57.02 | petemc | dr1v3r: use nxserver over ssh |
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| 15:57.43 | dr1v3r | how secure is that |
| 15:57.45 | dr1v3r | ? |
| 15:58.25 | evbata_ | How can I answer to somebody with name: |
| 15:58.39 | dr1v3r | that needs installing onto the system, i dont want anything that needs installing onto the system |
| 15:58.58 | petemc | good luck with that... |
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| 15:59.14 | xoz | dr1v3r: ssh -L 5901:localhost:5901 remote... in remote, enable vncserver, the in local, use vnc client to connect to port 5901 of localhost which is forwarded to remote using rsa/dsa encryption. |
| 15:59.41 | xoz | dr1v3r: you are ambitious to do that! |
| 15:59.58 | Sonny | well I still have the sam problem, my laptop freezes with a black screen when Itry to reboot, it closes all the programs and after the "rebooting" message it freezes, any idea? |
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| 16:00.19 | xoz | dr1v3r: this is as good as the security of ssh public key encryption |
| 16:00.30 | evbata_ | Leaving |
| 16:00.32 | orjan | petemc: I'm trying to setup freenx, what repositiry are you using? |
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| 16:01.46 | dak | anyone use moreamp or even get it to compile |
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| 16:02.49 | xoz | Sonny: at bootprompt, type pass S or 1 to boot in single-user mode and work your way from there |
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| 16:03.45 | Sonny | xoz, i dont understand |
| 16:03.54 | dr1v3r | i am imbitious to do that because last night i locked myself out of my server because i firewalled it up wrong, and now i need an interface type firewall that i can see instead of just a damn script to run off |
| 16:04.15 | positron | How do I limit CPUTIME with ulimit? What is a reasonable cputime? |
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| 16:04.39 | miki2 | sry for all that bragging before, i fixed it with... EBCD :) |
| 16:04.45 | xoz | Sonny: when you boot, pass the argument of S or 1 or init=/bin/bash so that you can avoid GUI. |
| 16:05.14 | Supaplex | since when does single user mode even fireup a display manager? |
| 16:05.21 | miki2 | it had some small progs hiddn, i could manually pick drive i want to be used, then i repaired simply when i had acces to filesystem |
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| 16:05.27 | xoz | Sonny: ah, wrong interpretation. |
| 16:05.30 | Sonny | xoz, my pc boot correctly.... the problem is when I try to reboot |
| 16:05.37 | xoz | Sonny: ok, get it. |
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| 16:06.26 | Supaplex | using init=/bin/bash is generally not suggested unless you're prepared to do all the dirtywork re initscripts and filesystems (lest you leave it unmounted while rebooting) |
| 16:06.45 | xoz | Sonny: check what daemons you have running. possible that one of the daemons refused to be killed and the system waits for it to finish. |
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| 16:07.17 | Sonny | all daemos are killed, because I go until the "rebooting" message |
| 16:07.19 | xoz | Sonny: kill or avoid loading unnecessary daemons such as nfs |
| 16:07.24 | maximus | Hi I am trying to downgrade my libxcompiste1 from 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 to 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 but I can not find the old verison |
| 16:07.41 | xoz | maximus: msg dpkg snapshot |
| 16:07.52 | _Tharok_ | hi all |
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| 16:08.13 | Sonny | xoz, after the "rebooting" message the Pc is suppossed to reboot, but my laptop freezes in that black screen |
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| 16:08.44 | _Tharok_ | i cant run my debian, when its loading MySQL database server my computer get quiet without doing anything more |
| 16:08.47 | xoz | Sonny: what kernel? |
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| 16:09.22 | Sonny | xoz, I had the 2.6.8, but later I installed the 2.6.12-smp |
| 16:09.38 | Sonny | xoz, linux-image-2.6.12-1-smp |
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| 16:10.24 | xoz | Sonny: it seems ACPI is the culprit |
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| 16:11.08 | Sonny | xoz, I have installed acpi and acpid |
| 16:11.17 | Saskwach | I recently tried installing kernel-image-2.6-k7, and it loads linux then can't find a root partition and panics. I tried telling it where my / is, but it didn't believe me. Any ideas? My / is on hdb1, in case that matters. |
| 16:11.24 | petemc | orjan: deb ftp://ftp.ekhis.org/ekhis/ experimental main - i think |
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| 16:12.05 | xoz | Sonny: what i mean is acpi in the kernel may not have yet the proper implementation for your mobo |
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| 16:13.21 | Sonny | xoz, so I need to recompile my own kernel, becasue with the 2.6.8 it works correctly |
| 16:13.42 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: you sure you're on a k7 architecture? |
| 16:13.55 | Saskwach | yes, I built it myself...athlon tbird 1400 |
| 16:13.59 | maximus | xoz, Thanks |
| 16:14.02 | xoz | Sonny: possible.. or wait for updates |
| 16:14.05 | Sonny | xoz, well it worked, 'cause now after the installation of the new kernel even with the 2.6.8 kernel my laptop freezes |
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| 16:14.16 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: so it panics with a VFS error? |
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| 16:14.19 | Saskwach | Also, the kernel I'm currently running I compiled for k7 |
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| 16:14.23 | Saskwach | SerajewelKS: yep |
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| 16:14.40 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: hmm, just sounds like it didn't load the IDE modules to me |
| 16:15.09 | Saskwach | SerajewelKS: would that be something to do in /etc/modules? |
| 16:15.19 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: not if it can't find / |
| 16:15.28 | Saskwach | SerajewelKS: oh, yeah...heh |
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| 16:15.46 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: make sure that (a) the IDE modules are compiled into the kernel, or (b) are modules and available in the initrd |
| 16:16.11 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: probably compile them in, since you're going to need them anyway (use modules for stuff you might not need) |
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| 16:16.14 | IronRoses | How do I go about installing nvidia drivers in debian? |
| 16:16.20 | SerajewelKS | !nvidia one liner |
| 16:16.20 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 16:16.22 | SerajewelKS | IronRoses: ^^^ |
| 16:16.23 | Saskwach | SerajewelKS: this is a stock debian kernel...shouldn't they have done that already? |
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| 16:16.44 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: oh i thought you built your own |
| 16:16.53 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: did you properly set up initrd in the bootloader? |
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| 16:17.14 | Saskwach | SerajewelKS: I believe the one I'm running uses initrd...let me check |
| 16:17.39 | cusco | hi... anyon ehere using vsftpd?? when I login to my home I can't see hidden folders nor files tarting with a . |
| 16:17.47 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: it does require it, yes |
| 16:17.59 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: just make sure that your bootloader knows about it, otherwise it won't be able to find the IDE modules |
| 16:18.10 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: what kernel were you using before |
| 16:18.20 | Saskwach | SerajewelKS: that's probably it...lilo.conf doesn't have any initrd lines |
| 16:18.35 | Saskwach | SerajewelKS: 2.6.10 that I compiled |
| 16:18.35 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: that'll do it =) |
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| 16:18.50 | Saskwach | SerajewelKS: okay, I'll try fixing that...thanks a bunch |
| 16:18.53 | SerajewelKS | Saskwach: yeah a self-built kernel or a debian stock kernel < 2.6 doesn't need initrd (as a general rule) |
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| 16:19.53 | Saskwach | well, thanks |
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| 16:21.20 | IronRoses | I can't find nvidia-glx |
| 16:21.30 | IronRoses | are there any respo's for the nvidia stuff? |
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| 16:21.40 | corvette | I installed etherconf, how do I access it |
| 16:21.45 | corvette | I typed etherconf in the terminal, no luck |
| 16:21.46 | harm1988 | how do i check if SSH is running |
| 16:21.46 | thingfish | IronRoses: you need to have contrib and non-free in your sources.list. |
| 16:21.52 | corvette | (or in the run) |
| 16:21.53 | Azar | blunted |
| 16:21.57 | IronRoses | kk |
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| 16:22.56 | jetscreamer | corvette: the default paths for user and root are different |
| 16:22.58 | Azar | blunted now I know what was going wrong |
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| 16:23.03 | jetscreamer | try /usr/bin/blah maybe |
| 16:23.09 | jetscreamer | or other |
| 16:23.13 | corvette | I even typed in su so it would use the root path |
| 16:23.25 | corvette | It still didn't load when I typed in etherconf |
| 16:23.30 | corvette | blah? |
| 16:23.32 | jetscreamer | find the file, use the path |
| 16:23.35 | aybr | how to figure out the name of the package that contain some utility .eg what the package name that contain dig utility .. |
| 16:23.42 | jetscreamer | blah==whatever, in this context |
| 16:23.51 | xoz | corvette: type, which etherconf |
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| 16:24.00 | corvette | the one that comes in synaptic |
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| 16:24.13 | jetscreamer | t..y..p..e.. |
| 16:24.17 | corvette | Ok I'll try to find it |
| 16:24.38 | IronRoses | sweet, thanks, there sorted, I have non-free as stable and contrib as unstable |
| 16:24.45 | xoz | corvette: in bash, type this command: which etherconf |
| 16:24.51 | corvette | ok |
| 16:25.15 | xoz | corvette: or dpkg -L etherconf | grep bin |
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| 16:25.41 | jetscreamer | i was bored so i thought i'd see what adding full blown ubuntu repos to sid ones would do |
| 16:25.42 | corvette | well which etherconf did nothing (I think it's using dash) |
| 16:25.46 | jetscreamer | i found out |
| 16:25.54 | thingfish | hehe jetscreamer |
| 16:25.54 | harm1988 | does debian-net install come with SSH? |
| 16:26.01 | harm1988 | cuz currently iam refused or something |
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| 16:26.19 | xoz | harm1988: explain more |
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| 16:26.25 | harm1988 | i want to SSH into my server |
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| 16:26.38 | xoz | harm1988: apt-get install ssh |
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| 16:26.44 | harm1988 | ok |
| 16:27.17 | corvette | it did nothing |
| 16:27.52 | corvette | harm1988, do you have the public key to your server (a certificate)? |
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| 16:28.23 | harm1988 | sweet thank you |
| 16:28.25 | corvette | I think it's using dash not bash |
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| 16:29.02 | Hovis | This is the a place where a nub can get debian support? |
| 16:29.07 | azeem | Hovis: here |
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| 16:29.09 | jetscreamer | sometimes |
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| 16:29.24 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 16:29.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 16:29.30 | Hovis | kk, thx - I'm new to IRC and Debian.... |
| 16:29.39 | xoz | corvette: beside the point |
| 16:29.42 | positron | When Im limiting users' cputime.. what does it mean if I set a limit of 20min? Is it process-specific, session-specific or what?? Could someone please explain me? |
| 16:29.48 | xcrash | I can't install kdenetwork cause libmeanwhile0 is depend for kopete, yes i know this is unstable but is there a work around ;) |
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| 16:30.06 | Hovis | Very cool dkpg, thx - i'll be back later when i have time... |
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| 16:30.20 | jetscreamer | xcrash: me i try and see if etch .debs help in those situations... |
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| 16:30.29 | jetscreamer | !what are you |
| 16:30.29 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 16:30.31 | cam | hi, any suggestion for a binaries news reader ? (I've seen http://www.newsreaders.com/unix/clients.html ... there 're a bunch of them ...) |
| 16:30.35 | xoz | positron: there is no man for that? what command are you using to limit? |
| 16:30.52 | ejofee | i think we should add this along with mc: http://mc.linuxinside.com/cgi-bin/dir.cgi#RELEASES |
| 16:30.54 | positron | xoz: i was planning to use /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 16:30.59 | xcrash | jetscreamer, how do i get etch debs? |
| 16:31.01 | jherrera | llll |
| 16:31.14 | pm_ | can i use iptables to block outgoing traffic to defined websites? |
| 16:31.22 | pm_ | in fact what i want to use is only allow a user to navigate in the www.site.com, and block all the others. can i make it? |
| 16:31.42 | Azar | pm_ yes in the OUTPUT chain |
| 16:31.42 | bbrazil | pm_: iptables can block based on ip addresses |
| 16:31.49 | jetscreamer | in the usual fashion. if you run sid you should know, or you shouldn't be running sid imo. download them is one way. |
| 16:31.54 | xcrash | jetscreamer, where do i point my sources.list |
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| 16:32.02 | IronRoses | the installation of nvidia failed with xorg |
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| 16:32.08 | bbrazil | pm_: if you need something more accurate, use squid as a transparent proxy |
| 16:32.11 | IronRoses | I am using unstable sources for most of debian |
| 16:32.13 | positron | xoz: man limits.conf is very short |
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| 16:32.34 | jherrera | kkk |
| 16:32.43 | jherrera | en español |
| 16:32.44 | jetscreamer | !tell xcrash -about pdo |
| 16:32.47 | jetscreamer | !es |
| 16:32.47 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:32.51 | jetscreamer | ayar |
| 16:33.02 | pm_ | bbrazil there is no other option them squid? |
| 16:33.22 | harm1988 | ERROR 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '( 'diablo22' ) , '2001' , '2001' , '/home/harm.kicks-ass.org' , |
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| 16:33.30 | harm1988 | now what? |
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| 16:33.42 | jetscreamer | /join #sql maybe or #mysql |
| 16:33.42 | henk | does anyone know it linux will balance it's swap-usage intelligently if you have swapspace on multiple disks ? |
| 16:33.58 | IronRoses | hmmm |
| 16:34.01 | jetscreamer | henk it will proibably never use the swap but it's nice to have if it does |
| 16:34.06 | pm_ | bbrazil whats the best way to block all sites and only allow some? squid? |
| 16:34.06 | bbrazil | pm_: I think apache can be used as a proxy |
| 16:34.11 | blijblijblij | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.16 | IronRoses | could the installation failed be because I am using kern 2.6 instead of 2.4? |
| 16:34.17 | bbrazil | pm_: it depends on what the sites are |
| 16:34.18 | pm_ | yes it can be used.. |
| 16:34.33 | henk | jetscreamer, that depends on the type of services you run on your box |
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| 16:34.36 | jetscreamer | henk that's settable with the lines in fstab i believe but i'm not sure |
| 16:34.43 | xoz | positron: i think it is total usage |
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| 16:35.02 | stew | henk: man swapon, man 2 swapon; look at priority |
| 16:35.17 | jetscreamer | what he said |
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| 16:35.24 | Azar | IronRoses: I understand you are using Debian unstable with xorg and nvidia fails? |
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| 16:35.50 | IronRoses | Azar, yes i am |
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| 16:36.03 | xcrash | jetscreamer, the site is down now |
| 16:36.06 | xoz | positron: it is in libpam-modules |
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| 16:36.33 | jetscreamer | xcrash: i think the search feature is all that's down. do google and restrict=linux |
| 16:36.34 | Azar | IronRoses: that sucks, the only thing I know is that the kernel-headers have to match with the nvidia's |
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| 16:36.43 | jetscreamer | and maybe the site also |
| 16:36.44 | henk | stew, ah no intelligence there it seems. I was hoping that linux could somehow detect is a disk is busy and use the other one for swap. |
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| 16:36.51 | IronRoses | Azar, I am also using kernel 2.6 |
| 16:36.55 | gnd | hi |
| 16:37.03 | xoz | positron: install libpam-doc and read the docs |
| 16:37.03 | xcrash | jetscreamer, yes but what package do i need to fix the problem |
| 16:37.05 | harm1988 | can some one please asist me? |
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| 16:37.17 | positron | xoz: what is in libpam-modules? If its total usage, how about when user has used my cpu for like 10mins in one week..? |
| 16:37.18 | jetscreamer | i dunno, the one you mentioned? |
| 16:37.24 | ramy | anybody knows a good yet simple streaming server for sarge for use within a home network ? |
| 16:37.30 | Azar | IronRoses: kernel 2.6 goes from 2.6.8 up to 2.6.15 ask gurus here I have no idea about nvidia in unstable with xorg |
| 16:37.32 | positron | xoz: ty for the package |
| 16:37.32 | xoz | positron: im just guessing, read the doc |
| 16:37.32 | IronRoses | I'm gonna revert back to kernel 2.4 and ive it another shot |
| 16:37.45 | positron | xoz: sure, thanks |
| 16:37.47 | Azar | IronRoses: thats stupid |
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| 16:38.02 | Azar | 2.4.x kernels in unstable ? gawd |
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| 16:38.10 | s-andy | hi |
| 16:38.11 | gnd | I've been unable to mount a drive after my last reboot, I get a lot of errors like these: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 16:38.11 | gnd | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.21 | stew | IronRoses: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
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| 16:38.39 | bbrazil | gnd: restore from backups |
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| 16:38.50 | stew | gnd: if you are extremely lucky you only need to replace the cable, otherwise you need to replace the disk and restore from backups |
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| 16:39.08 | jetscreamer | gnd: sometimes i have luck after i've let the drive sit a while, off. some ppl put them in baggies and put them in the freezer. |
| 16:39.09 | s-andy | is it normal that wget reports "not found" on some files when downloading amd64 iso with jigdo? |
| 16:39.12 | petemc | or use dd_rescue to make a quick copy, if its not completely dead yet |
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| 16:39.16 | jetscreamer | think dying hd |
| 16:39.25 | jetscreamer | see also dd_rhelp |
| 16:39.26 | stew | freezer? that's a new one for me |
| 16:39.28 | xoz | gnd: sound that your hd is dying... check if you can check its info using smartctl |
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| 16:39.44 | Azar | stew, I found out what went wrong yesterday with blunted: the kernel upgrade went ok, I only "assumed" he has no X server, but I guess he had one. The only thing he needed to do was to configure X for his i810... |
| 16:39.50 | jetscreamer | yeah. i've never done it but i've read about it being done a lot |
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| 16:40.45 | gnd | xoz: where do I get smartctl? |
| 16:40.47 | s-andy | have anyone used jigdo for downloading images? |
| 16:41.15 | stew | s-andy: many many people |
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| 16:41.27 | jetscreamer | which is why there is are 2 forks of dd_rescue or something, or so i gathered on some forum |
| 16:41.30 | jetscreamer | speed |
| 16:41.37 | xoz | gnd: smartsuite or smartmotools... new hd have SMART tech which tells whether it is dying |
| 16:41.45 | s-andy | stew: is it normal that it gives "file not found" erros? |
| 16:41.53 | IronRoses | I changed the contirb back to stable and it is now building the nvidia kernel |
| 16:41.56 | xoz | gnd: smartmontools |
| 16:42.16 | stew | IronRoses: huh? you are installing stable packages on unstable? |
| 16:42.18 | jetscreamer | !laugh |
| 16:42.19 | stew | s-andy: i doubt it |
| 16:42.32 | IronRoses | brb |
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| 16:42.42 | gnd | thanks xoz, getting it |
| 16:42.45 | jetscreamer | !sad |
| 16:42.45 | dpkg | i heard sad is this channel most of the time |
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| 16:42.51 | jetscreamer | hmmm |
| 16:42.59 | jetscreamer | boo |
| 16:43.15 | xoz | !qball what's your outlook |
| 16:43.15 | dpkg | the outlook is good |
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| 16:43.23 | jair | guys which one is a good book that talks about mysql-php-and apache? |
| 16:43.27 | s-andy | stew: what i should to correct these errors? may be i'm using wrong mirror? |
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| 16:43.35 | henk | hey if i do a debootstrap sarge ./mnt i end up with a /etc/apt/sources.list that says 'testing' that can't be right ?? |
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| 16:43.46 | jair | I am looking for couple of books the company I work with is letting me purchase. |
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| 16:44.06 | jetscreamer | !sad |
| 16:44.06 | jair | I have couple for debian already the GNU bible 3.1 :) |
| 16:44.06 | dpkg | [sad] this channel most of the time, or that feeling you get when your hd dies |
| 16:44.19 | stew | henk: you are using an old debootstrap |
| 16:44.22 | djp | how do i view chinese, japanese text correctly in epiphany? |
| 16:44.26 | stew | s-andy: dunno, read the docs? checked the bts? |
| 16:44.47 | jetscreamer | djp you may have to install some fonts, not sure |
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| 16:45.07 | henk | stew, hmm the one that is in debian stable currently. the box that it's on has 'stable' in it's sources.list and it is up-to-date |
| 16:45.10 | jair | anyone here that read books about debian can recommend me some? |
| 16:45.36 | positron | xoz: there's just general information and nothing specific to cputime. if you have any further suggestions ill be glad. i have been googling alot with no success |
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| 16:45.59 | stew | jair: http://debian.org/doc/books |
| 16:46.02 | abrotman | there's a list at debian.org |
| 16:46.04 | Azar | jair: http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals |
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| 16:46.05 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/doc/books |
| 16:46.09 | jetscreamer | damn too slow |
| 16:46.14 | abrotman | texan! |
| 16:46.22 | Azar | :) |
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| 16:46.37 | jetscreamer | well it's not 'mine' |
| 16:46.41 | s-andy | stew: sorry, what is bts? |
| 16:46.44 | SerajewelKS | !pal jetscreamer |
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| 16:46.56 | zinx | !tell s-andy about bts |
| 16:46.58 | stew | !depends debootstrap testing |
| 16:47.04 | Azar | btw that APT HOWTO manual should be edited to remove the non-US references |
| 16:47.06 | dpkg | debootstrap: depends on wget, binutils |
| 16:47.15 | jair | Azar, stew but I am talking about books, beside those, they have little bit of more detailed examples easier and quicker to understand, like from amazon.com |
| 16:47.31 | xoz | positron: why not create a dummy user and give him some short limits. experiment. give the dummy 2 minutes of cpu time and find out. |
| 16:47.39 | stew | henk: you can install testing's debootstrap safely on sarge and use it, looking at #339288, it seems to be a known issue |
| 16:47.43 | abrotman | Azar: file a bug |
| 16:48.03 | positron | xoz: well yes |
| 16:48.05 | Azar | jair, good luck there might be some but are either for developers or very old for users, I guess the only one for users I could find was written on the Potatoe times |
| 16:48.10 | jetscreamer | i hate udev i think |
| 16:48.19 | Azar | abrotman, ok |
| 16:48.34 | jair | Azar, I actually found some good ones :) |
| 16:48.34 | jetscreamer | and no linux-image w/o udev |
| 16:48.38 | jair | Azar, thanks |
| 16:48.40 | s-andy | zinx: i'm trying to download testing images... seems like they changed often. may be this is problem? |
| 16:48.46 | xoz | positron: i think it is minutes CPU used/session |
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| 16:48.58 | zinx | s-andy: you should not be using testing if you don't know what the BTS is |
| 16:49.07 | gnd | xoz: I get this as the result of smartctl -H on my drive: SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED |
| 16:49.12 | stew | s-andy: testing changes daily, how fresh are your .jigdo files? |
| 16:49.25 | zinx | s-andy: you should also read the errata for the images you're downloading... it sounds like you're downloading the daily testing debian-installer, which has known bugs |
| 16:49.27 | xoz | gnd: oh? have you tried the long test? |
| 16:49.39 | gnd | xoz: the -t? |
| 16:49.40 | s-andy | stew: todays |
| 16:49.44 | gnd | not yet |
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| 16:50.05 | jetscreamer | hey does anybody know what would be different in a stock kernel vs one i compiled that would make grub believe that hde3 is hda3, if i installed the stock image second? |
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| 16:50.08 | stew | s-andy: you might try stracing jigdo and see exactly which file it's not finding |
| 16:50.34 | zinx | oh, jigdo |
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| 16:50.36 | s-andy | zinx: i took jigdo file from weekly-build |
| 16:50.40 | positron | xoz: do you know that is there a percentual way of limiting? |
| 16:50.51 | zinx | s-andy: just install stable instead |
| 16:51.38 | xoz | gnd: -t long |
| 16:51.57 | jetscreamer | and why does lspci list my miro dc10+ as an nvidia device |
| 16:51.58 | s-andy | zinx: i need this for desktop machines... |
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| 16:52.34 | s-andy | zinx: you mean that testing amd64 images may be broken? |
| 16:52.54 | xoz | gnd: also, try smartctl -a ... check how many errors you got.. possible that you are using a very bad kernel or a very bad filesystem only |
| 16:53.01 | xoz | gnd: what kernel? |
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| 16:53.19 | gnd | 2.6.14 |
| 16:53.22 | zinx | s-andy: *any* testing images may be broken. it's testing. |
| 16:53.43 | gnd | xoz: it was all ok before I had to power down after a kde freeze last night |
| 16:54.03 | s-andy | zinx: i know. but i have successfully installed i386 testing while amd64 i can't even download. |
| 16:54.04 | gnd | been using this drive for at least 2,5 years |
| 16:54.14 | k31th_ | guys, wats that cpannel type app that is for debian ? |
| 16:54.25 | zinx | s-andy: update your stuff.. it changes quite often. |
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| 16:54.51 | xoz | gnd: try lower kernel version and see if you still have these errors. possible that the modules/files where damaged. try to reinsall your kernel or check symoops as well as dmesg |
| 16:55.29 | valdyn_ | jetscreamer: you mean grub when being run from linux ? |
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| 16:56.03 | s-andy | zinx: if you are talking about my i386 installation - i do update regularly. if about jigdo-file i downloaded it today |
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| 16:56.24 | jetscreamer | valdyn_: yes. |
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| 16:56.54 | valdyn_ | jetscreamer: and hde3 becomes hda3 ? |
| 16:57.06 | s-andy | zinx: i tried also torrent files - but there is no torrents for 1st cd there :( |
| 16:57.07 | valdyn_ | jetscreamer: err, i mean, hde3 becomes hda3 and hda3 becomes hde3? |
| 16:57.19 | zinx | s-andy: just get the installer :/ |
| 16:57.24 | gnd | xoz: how do I check the test results? |
| 16:57.50 | s-andy | zinx: seems like amd64 testing is very uncared |
| 16:57.51 | gnd | xoz: the smartctl -t long /dev/hda results ... |
| 16:57.54 | zinx | s-andy: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and be sure to check http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata |
| 16:57.57 | jetscreamer | valdyn_: i didn't look to see what hda1 became |
| 16:58.06 | zinx | s-andy: and don't download the daily builds; they're broken right now. |
| 16:58.33 | jetscreamer | there is only one part on hda though |
| 16:58.37 | s-andy | zinx: i'm downloading weekly... please don't say it is the same... =( |
| 16:58.38 | valdyn_ | jetscreamer: go look, anyway i suspect that linux just reverses the order of your ide controllers, that happens when you have 2 and the drivers get loaded in the 'reverse' order |
| 16:58.40 | xoz | gnd: use -a |
| 16:58.42 | stew | s-andy: install stable and upgrade to testing if you want to use testing |
| 16:59.05 | s-andy | stew: ok - i see... thanx |
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| 16:59.17 | zinx | stew: amd64 |
| 16:59.25 | xoz | gnd: if SMART says ok, then, maybe you just have to fix your files/filesystem |
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| 16:59.29 | zinx | s-andy: i don't know about the weekly |
| 16:59.34 | zinx | s-andy: check the errata for it. |
| 16:59.35 | earthling | Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: <- Getting this msg from menu AND command line when trying to use sudo synaptic. However; su -c synaptic works ok.. Any ideas? I didn't have this problem until just now.. :-( |
| 16:59.35 | jetscreamer | valdyn_: there is also that devices.map in /boot/grub but i didn't edit it lately |
| 16:59.40 | valdyn_ | jetscreamer: grub has, a switch for menu.lst to reverse that too |
| 16:59.44 | zinx | s-andy: always check the errata for beta stuff. |
| 16:59.47 | xoz | gnd: or backup and reformat |
| 16:59.56 | gnd | xoz: I can't even mount it |
| 17:00.16 | valdyn_ | jetscreamer: doesnt matter, kernels can change the order in which drivers get loaded at any time.. guess you have a new kernel. |
| 17:00.34 | xoz | gnd: what about cfdisk/fdisk or fsck? |
| 17:00.37 | jetscreamer | sudo seems to have become more secured by default, earthling |
| 17:00.55 | s-andy | zinx: seems like - clear (for testing)... thanx |
| 17:01.00 | stew | zinx: yes, i understand that it's amd64 |
| 17:01.09 | gnd | fsck reports fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hda1 ... Could this be a zero-length partition? |
| 17:01.13 | jetscreamer | valdyn_: 2.6.15-3-k7 sid stock vs 2.6.15-jetscreamer from debian sid linux-source |
| 17:01.16 | xoz | gnd: if cfdisk can read your partition, maybe you just have bad fs |
| 17:01.17 | zinx | stew: tell him where to get stable amd64 images, then. |
| 17:01.31 | earthling | but I didn't change sudo ... trying to find out what might have happened.. |
| 17:01.46 | stew | s-andy: /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 17:01.56 | xoz | gnd: what about cfdisk /dev/hda? |
| 17:02.09 | jetscreamer | well the thing works either way |
| 17:02.09 | djp | sound-juicer or grip? is one preferred over the other for gui cd ripping? |
| 17:02.09 | valdyn_ | jetscreamer: if you use a debian kernel, then the order depends on which driver is in your 'modules' file in your initrd, if you compile the drivers into your kernel, then the order is 'random' ( depends on which kernel you use ) |
| 17:02.17 | jetscreamer | ahh |
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| 17:02.37 | jetscreamer | lilo and no udev was much easier to grok |
| 17:02.38 | valdyn_ | jetscreamer: so one way to fix this should be to just not compile in your secondary controller |
| 17:02.40 | gnd | xoz: recognizes the partition and fs type |
| 17:02.42 | earthling | i kinda like xripper myself |
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| 17:03.02 | Azar | is grub configurable? |
| 17:03.08 | Azar | .. for a newbie |
| 17:03.10 | xoz | gnd: use parted, type h, there is a rescue to rescue partition... but be careful |
| 17:03.17 | De_Mon | I've got asterisk setup with some xlite softphones, but they are not showing any voicemail notifications |
| 17:03.29 | valdyn_ | jetscreamer: udev or grub dont really affect this, its your bios and your kernel. |
| 17:03.31 | jetscreamer | Azar: there are front ends for grub configuration... one for gnome that i know of |
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| 17:03.56 | xoz | gnd: i think you just destroyed the partition table when you put you forced to put off your comp |
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| 17:03.58 | earthling | webmin has a grub module too.. |
| 17:04.35 | stew | earthling: he's on unstable, there is no webmin in unstable |
| 17:04.39 | jetscreamer | valdyn_: grub does some wierd(to me) stuff depending on what hd you actually boot from |
| 17:04.40 | stew | (yay) |
| 17:04.43 | xoz | gnd: is the partition contain valuable data? |
| 17:04.49 | lalberto | Olah |
| 17:04.52 | earthling | sorry... didn't notice that.. |
| 17:04.56 | gnd | xoz: well, valuable to me |
| 17:05.14 | jetscreamer | but i like the grub command line |
| 17:05.25 | jetscreamer | i like the grub-floppy too |
| 17:05.40 | s-andy | stew: thanx |
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| 17:05.46 | xoz | gnd: try parted and use check command. |
| 17:05.55 | jetscreamer | i've given in to the dark side |
| 17:06.15 | ronin | jetscreamer: dark side? you run windows now? :) |
| 17:06.40 | jetscreamer | i've always run windows, i make money fixing other ppl's windows |
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| 17:06.51 | s-andy | stew: how do you think is it good idea to install ia64 on amd 64 machine? |
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| 17:07.00 | valdyn_ | s-andy: you cant do that at all |
| 17:07.04 | jetscreamer | but i meant grub vs lilo |
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| 17:07.07 | gnd | xoz: partition number would be 1 for hda1? |
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| 17:07.18 | xoz | s-andy: you are asking a goat to have sex with a cow |
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| 17:07.37 | jetscreamer | you only type cfdisk /dev/hda , not /dev/hda1 , if that helps |
| 17:07.41 | ronin | xoz: now theres an interesting commparison |
| 17:07.54 | xoz | gnd: type p to see the detail |
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| 17:08.14 | s-andy | xoz: :) |
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| 17:08.22 | jetscreamer | i remember doing that the first time.. i didn't know wtf was going on |
| 17:08.24 | jhiver | I was wondering if there was a way to tell from the command line if the screen saver of a given box is active |
| 17:08.28 | Estes2 | I have a cluster and i would add users on all nodes at the same time but i need them to have the same UID on all nodes... Any idea ? |
| 17:08.30 | jhiver | how would you do it? |
| 17:08.45 | gnd | xoz: parted check 1 said: Error: Could not detect file system. |
| 17:08.49 | jhiver | (using gnome on an ubuntu box btw) |
| 17:08.58 | azeem | jhiver: you could use d-bus |
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| 17:09.04 | jhiver | what is that? |
| 17:09.07 | azeem | for gnome-screensaver |
| 17:09.25 | gnd | hmm |
| 17:09.26 | azeem | jhiver: what are you trying to do? |
| 17:09.28 | zinx | jhiver: xscreensaver-command -time |
| 17:09.30 | jhiver | well |
| 17:09.31 | xoz | gnd: oh, so you really fsck with your fs... not even the journalling helped? what about the other partitions? they still can be mounted? |
| 17:09.36 | jhiver | when my screen saver is active, |
| 17:09.47 | gnd | xoz: there was only one partition on this drive |
| 17:09.48 | jhiver | I want my box to send a signal to my asterisk gateway |
| 17:09.50 | zinx | jhiver: or possibly -watch, depending on what you want to do |
| 17:09.56 | jhiver | so my phone is switched to voicemail |
| 17:09.59 | zinx | jhiver: probably -watch, then |
| 17:10.12 | jhiver | so I'm not woken up by the bloody phone in the morning |
| 17:10.22 | gnd | xoz: can I paste the output of parted print somewhere? |
| 17:10.29 | azeem | !paster |
| 17:10.29 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 17:10.30 | xoz | gnd: im afraid this is more than a fs problem... very bad to have one partition. you are overworking your hd to cover large area using one partition |
| 17:10.33 | jhiver | what is -watch, and how does it work? |
| 17:10.41 | xoz | gnd: /j #flood |
| 17:10.42 | azeem | jhiver: man xscreensaver, I guess |
| 17:10.46 | zinx | jhiver: man xscreensaver-command |
| 17:10.49 | jhiver | ok cheers |
| 17:10.50 | zinx | jhiver: it even f'n gives examples |
| 17:11.26 | jhiver | a search for watch on this man pages yields no results for me |
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| 17:11.49 | azeem | jhiver: man xscreensaver-command, rather |
| 17:12.20 | jhiver | ah ok :) |
| 17:12.21 | jhiver | cheers |
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| 17:12.53 | xoz | gnd: well, 123g is really big to have just one partition. some people suggest freezer but i don't know what is it. |
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| 17:13.13 | xoz | gnd: next time, make several partitions and backup. |
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| 17:15.55 | jetscreamer | freezer is that thing that makes ice... |
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| 17:16.05 | gnd | xoz: should I try the rescue with parted? |
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| 17:16.38 | Solet | how much space would a sarge install that had a web server, a php server, and a cli torrent client take? |
| 17:16.52 | SerajewelKS | Solet: around 1, 1.5 gig maybe |
| 17:16.55 | xoz | gnd: well, it's your call. |
| 17:17.03 | xoz | !qball what's your outlook? |
| 17:17.04 | dpkg | the outlook is fuzzy |
| 17:17.09 | xoz | :) |
| 17:17.15 | SerajewelKS | Solet: i've got apache2, php4, postfix, courier, and sun's j2re 1.5 on a server and it's ~700mb |
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| 17:18.18 | gnd | nothing about rescue in parted man page |
| 17:18.24 | Blastur | hi |
| 17:18.44 | Solet | what are my options for remote cli access? |
| 17:18.57 | xoz | gnd: in parted, just type help rescue |
| 17:19.30 | xoz | help rescue is redundant but that's how you get info :) |
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| 17:20.08 | saskwach | SerajewelKS, I put that initrd line into lilo.conf, and now it boots into a busybox single user shell |
| 17:20.18 | gnd | xoz: are the numbers about start and end that the check reports to be believed? |
| 17:20.36 | js_ | does anybody here use a big lcd monitor with proper 1920x1200 resolution? mine is very blurred like its resized to fit the screen.. i can mangeto get other smaller resolutions to work properly, but the largest one wont just work.. can it be a refresh rate issue? |
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| 17:21.08 | SerajewelKS | saskwach: does it give you a reason? |
| 17:21.17 | xoz | gnd: try 0% to 100% |
| 17:21.35 | saskwach | can't access tty is the last error it throws |
| 17:21.40 | xoz | gnd: or try the one that check says |
| 17:21.45 | SerajewelKS | saskwach: =/ |
| 17:21.46 | saskwach | the only fatal one is "Module unknown not found" |
| 17:21.52 | gnd | check said 32kB start and 123GB end |
| 17:21.53 | SerajewelKS | saskwach: that's as far as my expertise on this goes |
| 17:22.11 | saskwach | SerajewelKS, oh well, I guess it's back to the other kernel for a while |
| 17:22.13 | gnd | xoz: have you ever had rescue suceed? |
| 17:22.32 | SerajewelKS | saskwach: that always works =) |
| 17:23.18 | xoz | gnd: ok, that seems sane. no, but i used parted to resize my windows partition so that i can install linux. it resized it and both works. |
| 17:23.46 | saskwach | SerajewelKS, yeah, but debian's starting to dislike me for running it...some services want a newer kernel...oh well, it'll fix eventually |
| 17:24.15 | SerajewelKS | saskwach: you can use a newer kernel, just try the -386 one |
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| 17:24.45 | saskwach | SerajewelKS, eww, slowitude...yeah, I guess I could do that |
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| 17:25.32 | xoz | gnd: actually it will just restore the partition table which is possible because partition table have backup |
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| 17:26.20 | humbletech99 | does anybody know what algorithm the command zip -e uses? |
| 17:26.23 | humbletech99 | I've tried googling but keep getting bloody companies at the top of the ratings |
| 17:26.34 | zinx | humbletech99: something that's *extremely* weak |
| 17:26.38 | zinx | humbletech99: don't use it |
| 17:26.56 | xoz | use gpg |
| 17:26.59 | pipeline | humbletech99: Heh, I think it just xor's your password against the data over and over :P |
| 17:27.04 | humbletech99 | which cryptographic algorithm? |
| 17:27.05 | RichiH | !find source |
| 17:27.25 | ClayG | who told me to use mtdetect last time? |
| 17:27.28 | pipeline | humbletech99: I'm assuming, since you're using zip, you want to share data with other platforms. In which case, you should probably be using rar, which has fantastic encryption. |
| 17:27.35 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'source' (8 of 49): (/etc/vdr/sources.conf) in misc/vdr ;; (/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources) in x11/xdm ;; (/etc/turba/sources.php) in web/turba ;; (/usr/bin/massource) in sound/mas-utils ;; (/etc/fai/sources.list) in admin/fai-server ;; (/usr/bin/exo-csource) in libs/libexo-0.3-0 ;; (/usr/bin/update-sourcedeps) in devel/sbuild ;; (/etc/debtags/sources.list) in admin/debtags. |
| 17:27.37 | zinx | humbletech99: i'm not sure; but it has weaknesses other than the algorithm as well |
| 17:27.49 | ClayG | I keep coming here for help then leaving (in hopes I'll be able to get back in and thank them after |
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| 17:28.29 | hueh | Anyone have a view on a CMS. We need a CMS for website development for a client - after reviewing, testing and generally not sleeping much for the last 4 days drupal seems favourite. Biggest concern is it's php based. Two questions: 1) Should we be concerned about running php (we don't currently - so will probably run another server to run it). 2) Any other views on CMS? |
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| 17:28.29 | humbletech99 | isn't rar proprietary though? |
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| 17:28.29 | maximus | Hi I switched to xorg-7.0 but now I have to type startx then in xterm type startkde to start kde. |
| 17:28.30 | zinx | hueh: most are horribly insecure; drupal's probably the most secure |
| 17:28.31 | ClayG | hueh, mambo is very good but has a bit of a learning curve |
| 17:28.38 | zinx | mambo is not at all secure |
| 17:28.38 | ClayG | e107 is supposed to be good |
| 17:28.41 | jay | Does anyone know a free PDF creator/editor for debian and how do i get it. I am new to this |
| 17:28.48 | ClayG | really? |
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| 17:28.53 | hueh | thanks, zinx - what about php concerns in general - does anyone else run it? |
| 17:28.57 | dado | hi all, is it somehow possible to mount a freebsd ufs partition? |
| 17:28.59 | saskwach | jay, look into lyx or LaTeX |
| 17:29.01 | ClayG | I have an older version of mambo on one of my sites, would you like to give it a "crack"? |
| 17:29.09 | zinx | hueh: PHP itself isn't terribly insecure |
| 17:29.13 | maximus | I had to re link /usr/X11R6/bin to /usr/bin/X11 to get startx to work what link am I missing on startkde? |
| 17:29.15 | saskwach | jay, also, OpenOffice has an export to pdf button, I think |
| 17:29.21 | zinx | ClayG: not really |
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| 17:29.45 | humbletech99 | dado: you need kernel support and even then it's read only for safety (bit stupid, you'd think there'd be proper support, open source and all that) |
| 17:29.48 | lizardX | jay: kde has "print to PDF" I think |
| 17:29.55 | ClayG | MKportal looks cool but when i tried it out (7-8 months ago) it looked like all the admin crap was in another language |
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| 17:30.13 | jay | I need to open i pdf from a buisness i am managing edit it and save it back to pdf |
| 17:30.18 | dado | humbletech99: means i have to recompile my kernel just to mount a real unix partition? |
| 17:30.29 | dado | jesus... |
| 17:30.34 | ClayG | hey guys, last night like a dummy i apt-get dist-upgrade'd |
| 17:30.40 | bobbens | dado: the debian kernels have read only built in i think |
| 17:30.41 | ClayG | it asked 3-4 times about which Xserver i wanted to use |
| 17:30.55 | ClayG | I selected xorg(i think it was using the other first) and then rebooted it |
| 17:30.57 | saskwach | jay, I think you have to go with proprietary solutions for that...I haven't heard of a standard for that kind of pdf |
| 17:30.57 | grendal_prime | jesus isnot here today...(but ya your right he uses debian as well) |
| 17:31.15 | ClayG | x crashed because of an entry in xorg.conf (mouse, input, blah blah) |
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| 17:31.31 | jay | I figured as much |
| 17:31.31 | saskwach | ClayG, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? |
| 17:31.32 | hueh | Thanks, ClayG :) - Matt (Raible) has been trying mambo(joomla) and drupal side-by-side on a much more extensive test and settled on drupal for quite a few reasons. |
| 17:31.37 | dado | bobbens: that would be enough i need to recover/backup some data. actually how can i see the right partition names, since bsd doesnt have several partition, but one big slice, and labels in it? |
| 17:31.38 | ClayG | anyhow , how do i tell x that the mouse is a USB mouse(it was set to ps2) and how can i just change to the "other" xserver |
| 17:31.57 | saskwach | ClayG, /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 17:31.59 | zinx | ClayG: the kernel emulates USB as explorerps2 |
| 17:32.05 | grendal_prime | abrotman, heheeh im playing with debtakover today |
| 17:32.34 | xoz | jay: acrobat is the best...there is a pdf editor in linux but buggy. try apt-cache search pdf |
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| 17:32.56 | bobbens | dado: yeah, but the slice is sorta like a logical partition. so if just look at /dev/hdx and see what you have (using pure udev). I've got my servers freebsd partition mounted just fine |
| 17:33.03 | humbletech99 | dado: indeed, stupid, and also the support isn't that great, generally read only |
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| 17:33.21 | dado | ClayG: there is no need to have a USB mouse (virtually), your pointer will move, nevermind with which protocol |
| 17:33.30 | ClayG | hmmm saskwach and zinx thanks. You guys mind peeping my old xorg.conf as well as how i tried to fix it? |
| 17:33.37 | grendal_prime | first on a suse box |
| 17:34.03 | zinx | ClayG: X generally tells you why it won't start; check /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 17:34.18 | ClayG | Yes it did tell me why it didnt start, it mentions the mouse and xorg.conf |
| 17:34.19 | ClayG | http://hostdestroyer.com/paste/view.php?id=35 |
| 17:34.33 | opnsrc | I recently tried to set my LAN address for this computer to 192.168.1.100 . Well, when I login as root everything works fine. But if I login as opnsrc it says, the internet address for this computer could not be looked up (or found). your internet connection may not work. Well the internet works fine but everything is now slow under this account. How do I get rid of that popup? |
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| 17:34.35 | ClayG | there is a pastebin of the OLD xorg.conf (before i .bak'ed it and took a line out) |
| 17:34.48 | zinx | ClayF: .. and what about the mouse and xorg.conf does it mention, exactly? |
| 17:34.49 | dado | bobbens: there is only hda1 my friend, the labels are not visible |
| 17:34.58 | zinx | erh, G |
| 17:35.02 | ClayG | one moment (im in xp) llemme pull that log through |
| 17:35.10 | dado | humbletech99: not only stupid. i find it almost ridiculous... |
| 17:35.31 | SerajewelKS | dado: find what ridiculous |
| 17:35.32 | bobbens | dado: strange, in my case i just had to add "/dev/hda5 /mnt/freebsd ufs ro,user,auto,ufstype=ufs2 0 0" to get it working |
| 17:35.49 | dado | SerajewelKS: that there is no real ufs support in debian's kernel |
| 17:35.54 | SerajewelKS | dado: ah |
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| 17:36.40 | ClayG | funny loking througb it i see |
| 17:36.40 | ClayG | (**) Configured Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 |
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| 17:36.52 | ClayG | which would lead me to beleive that isn't the problem, maybe that's an old log |
| 17:36.57 | bobbens | dado: well there is read-only support built in (since write is experimental in the kernel - thus debian is not at fault) |
| 17:37.12 | dado | i will step in my cold car, drive to the company tonight and save my stuff there somewhere... |
| 17:37.20 | zinx | ClayG: if it exited, then it's probably going to be near the end; and it's not the "No screens found" thing, just in case. |
| 17:37.30 | saskwach | NetBSD has full blown UFS support, doesn't debian have a NetBSD kernel? |
| 17:37.33 | zinx | if it crashed, then it may not have written the log properly. |
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| 17:37.38 | ClayG | I'm looking |
| 17:37.39 | ClayG | weird |
| 17:37.48 | ClayG | in the error i get when trying it |
| 17:37.50 | ClayG | it is at the bottom |
| 17:37.53 | ClayG | mentions core pointer |
| 17:37.55 | ClayG | and mouse |
| 17:37.56 | dado | bobbens: im not sure, why my kernel doesnt even provide ro support |
| 17:38.03 | ClayG | when I ERASED the line it lets me in X |
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| 17:38.07 | ClayG | but I can't get the mouse to work |
| 17:38.12 | ClayG | even after re plugging it in |
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| 17:38.19 | ClayG | I think that's cause I took that line out |
| 17:38.19 | zinx | ClayG: you need a core pointer |
| 17:38.20 | bobbens | dado: i'm not using a debian stock, but i thought they had read only support, like ntfs since it's stable |
| 17:38.23 | boren | is there a way to make apt/dpkg look through all installed packages, see if any files are missing and download and reinstall the package? |
| 17:38.27 | ClayG | dpkg-recon? |
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| 17:38.43 | dado | bobbens: who cares about ntfs :) |
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| 17:38.56 | humbletech99 | debian is supposed to come with nearly everything or so I'm told so i'd expect it to support that, but maybe you need to load a modules for it? |
| 17:39.15 | bobbens | dado: i've removed it :), but just pointing out it's in a similar situation as ufs |
| 17:39.17 | dado | humbletech99: the ufs module is loaded |
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| 17:39.29 | humbletech99 | ntfs is very important actually, I'd be crying if linux couldn't even read it, as it is, I'm just crying cos it can't write it! |
| 17:39.31 | ClayG | http://hostdestroyer.com/paste/view.php?id=36 |
| 17:39.38 | ClayG | that's my log |
| 17:39.43 | ClayG | but i dont see the same errors as last night |
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| 17:39.54 | SerajewelKS | humbletech99: linux has no business writing ntfs imo |
| 17:40.02 | dado | bobbens: ok, ntfs i a native MS filesystem. debian should be kinda unix like or whatever. ufs IS unix, therefor i expected some better support here... |
| 17:40.16 | ClayG | How do I get a core pointer? sorry for asking so much just dont want to boot over and try one thing then it not work and be right back on "doze" |
| 17:40.23 | dado | with HERE i meant debian, not the channel |
| 17:40.25 | bobbens | dado: so did I, but it's the same way freebsd doesnt support reiserfs write (which is also free) |
| 17:40.25 | dado | :) |
| 17:40.36 | dado | bobbens: true. i admit |
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| 17:41.03 | humbletech99 | then mount it as normal with the -t ufs option, take into account the partition type someone else already mentioned, in unix its ad0s1a, so in linux it'll be something like hda5 I guess |
| 17:41.05 | dado | maybe we should all go back to windows 3.11 and stop crushing our brains everyday.. |
| 17:41.09 | dado | :) |
| 17:41.20 | zinx | ClayG: it says you've got one configured |
| 17:41.34 | zinx | ClayG: erh, nevermind |
| 17:41.34 | ClayG | od |
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| 17:41.35 | ClayG | odd |
| 17:41.38 | humbletech99 | screw 3.1, everything should run 2003 and debtoo. (debian, gentoo) |
| 17:41.43 | zinx | ClayG: add the Option "CorePointer" back :D |
| 17:41.54 | ClayG | I need to get my laptop up here so i can talk with you guys while i try this. |
| 17:42.06 | c_k | hi guys , in a little trouble here, my server seems to have gone into a read only filesystem that I cant get out of, I am unable to reboot the box remotely as I am getting the error Input/Output error , anyone seen this before and got any recomendations at all.... |
| 17:42.10 | ClayG | Thanks for the help also, I asked a few questions and you guys have been good (a few days ago) forgot to thank anyone |
| 17:42.13 | ClayG | ok |
| 17:42.33 | zinx | ClayG: change the protocol to ExplorerPS/2 |
| 17:42.42 | fatal___ | c_k: the recommendations are: backup as much data as you can then replace the harddrive. |
| 17:42.48 | sandman | Are vservers any more secure than just using a chroot? |
| 17:42.49 | ClayG | shoot |
| 17:42.57 | dado | i might stop computing. thats the best option :D |
| 17:42.57 | fatal___ | c_k: it's most likely going to die soon.... |
| 17:42.59 | zinx | ClayG: and set the device to /dev/input/mice if that exists |
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| 17:43.09 | ClayG | lemme show you the old xorg.conf |
| 17:43.11 | ClayG | I'll pastebin it |
| 17:43.17 | c_k | fatal: only prblem is the server is co-located so I cant get to it that easily, any other recomendaations at all |
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| 17:43.26 | fatal___ | c_k: unless these failures was because of cut power... that can corrupt the filesystem without the harddrive being damaged. |
| 17:43.55 | c_k | yeah true but I dont think it would have been that as the other servers in that rack are ok |
| 17:43.56 | ClayG | ok, this is the "old" xorg.conf that wouldnt work |
| 17:43.56 | ClayG | http://hostdestroyer.com/paste/view.php?id=37 |
| 17:44.03 | ClayG | but this is what "came" with it |
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| 17:44.17 | ClayG | so to speak( I think before dist-upgrade'ing it was using the other xserver) |
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| 17:44.25 | c_k | cant even copy the files to other drives as it says bus error read-only filesystem. do you think a simple physical power cycle may resolve the issues |
| 17:44.32 | ClayG | I see this |
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| 17:44.32 | ClayG | Option"Device""/dev/input/mice" |
| 17:44.37 | zinx | ClayG: the package attempts to auto-convert |
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| 17:45.06 | ClayG | well is there a reason i would want to use xorg over the other? |
| 17:45.26 | zinx | ClayG: you're using testing or unstable |
| 17:45.29 | saskwach | xorg is newer, better supported, and has pretty alpha layers |
| 17:45.45 | zinx | ClayG: xfree86 probably isn't well-maintained in testing/unstable any more. |
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| 17:46.05 | stew | zinx: its non-existant in testing/unstable |
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| 17:47.01 | zinx | stew: ah, the dummy package tricked me |
| 17:47.16 | SerajewelKS | xorg has alpha layers? since when? |
| 17:47.25 | zinx | SerajewelKS: since composite? |
| 17:47.29 | SerajewelKS | i mean i know they're working on them, but my X.org cerainly does not |
| 17:47.48 | grendal_prime | where in the hell dows konquror store its favorites/bookmarks |
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| 17:48.00 | grendal_prime | i want to set up mozilla so it uses the same ones |
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| 17:49.07 | gnd | is there a way to see the state of a FS a few days ago ? at least the dir tree |
| 17:49.47 | SerajewelKS | zinx: how would i enable/use alpha layers in X.org (from etch) |
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| 17:50.23 | zinx | SerajewelKS: heck if i know |
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| 17:50.32 | zinx | SerajewelKS: i don't use/care about such features, and the drivers i'm using don't support them |
| 17:50.35 | ClayG | man |
| 17:50.39 | ClayG | I shouldn't have dist-upgraded |
| 17:50.50 | positron | xoz: you here? |
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| 17:50.53 | ClayG | I supposed there isn't a "dist downgrade" huh |
| 17:50.53 | ClayG | lo |
| 17:50.55 | ClayG | lol |
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| 17:51.09 | zinx | ClayG: you shouldn't be running testing/unstable, really :/ |
| 17:51.17 | zinx | ClayG: downgrading is fairly difficult |
| 17:51.19 | ClayG | I wasn't |
| 17:51.26 | ClayG | But I just installed debian a few days ago |
| 17:51.29 | ClayG | I can just reinstall |
| 17:51.30 | zinx | it can be done, but it's difficult |
| 17:51.45 | Eulex | !downgrade |
| 17:51.45 | dpkg | i guess downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
| 17:52.01 | ld`et|Other`Q | why might i use a debian OS ? :> |
| 17:52.11 | zinx | !whydebian |
| 17:52.11 | dpkg | [whydebian] because http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or http://ext2.org/99/02/imoore2.html or http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/WhyDebianRocks |
| 17:52.12 | ClayG | I was using ubuntu first |
| 17:52.47 | ClayG | It was great, the only nix that I actually stuck with. I was able to completly sever ties with the dark force, heck I got everything i use, down to the dvd authoring apps |
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| 17:53.08 | ClayG | but ubuntu is based on debian, and I saw alot of cool apps that were .deb packages |
| 17:53.26 | ClayG | I got the lecture from people in #ubuntu not to use non-ubuntu sources/packages |
| 17:53.37 | ClayG | I thought to myself why not use the original |
| 17:53.37 | stew | those two url's should possibly be removed from the downgrade factoid, they are very old, and I don't know about telling someone to run stable with testing's libc6 (which is what they end up doing) |
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| 17:55.07 | m1t0z | Anybody use XFCE4.2? |
| 17:55.07 | abrotman | fix it! |
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| 17:56.30 | chealer | I agree with stew |
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| 18:00.41 | Felina | hi , am tring to add a printer witch is in a second pc this 2 pc use same connection via network conect , its asking for printer address how do i find that out ? |
| 18:00.59 | destr0__ | is it possible to put a constraint on an apt repository so that you only update / install 1 single (or a few named) packages from that repository? |
| 18:01.06 | keks | hi, how do i restrict port forwarding in sshd to one single port? |
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| 18:03.14 | iio | i have a problem with my nForce 4 intel edition. debian (newst stable version) cant find the network card automaticly |
| 18:04.08 | abrotman | !tell corrupt about away |
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| 18:04.38 | iio | my board has a marvell 88e1111 phy |
| 18:04.42 | Ungy | abrotman ahh I want one of those cool away messages |
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| 18:04.47 | Frem | How do I find out what package owns a file? |
| 18:04.52 | abrotman | Ungy: go ahead .. you'll get kicked |
| 18:04.54 | abrotman | dpkg -S |
| 18:04.58 | Frem | thanks |
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| 18:05.03 | coolpix | huhu & ... ;) |
| 18:05.03 | wathek | hello all |
| 18:05.29 | Ungy | abrotman, meany |
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| 18:05.59 | jbroome | away messages are the damn devil |
| 18:06.44 | Ungy | jbroome, I have seen some funny ones |
| 18:06.45 | De_Mon | heh |
| 18:06.49 | Frem | Is changing your nick when you go away acceptable? |
| 18:06.52 | wathek | what does this mean |
| 18:06.56 | wathek | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.59 | wathek | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:07.25 | ld`et|Other`Q | what version of demian and how much CDs i must download/install ? |
| 18:07.26 | bbrazil | Frem: not in here |
| 18:07.26 | iio | can anyone help me |
| 18:07.32 | abrotman | !d-i ld`et|Other`Q |
| 18:07.33 | dpkg | ld`et|Other`Q, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 18:07.38 | iio | i am using a nforce 4 mainboard intel edition |
| 18:07.47 | abrotman | bbrazil: though people still do it |
| 18:07.50 | iio | and debian cant find my on board network device |
| 18:07.53 | kspath | !bless abrotman |
| 18:07.54 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless your child abrotman, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
| 18:07.58 | bbrazil | wathek: CHS can only do 8GB (?), LBA can do more |
| 18:08.01 | abrotman | Frem: you can set an away message .. but don't make a public announcement |
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| 18:08.12 | wathek | bbrazil, huh ?? |
| 18:08.12 | filleokus | Howdy Guys! |
| 18:08.19 | abrotman | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 18:08.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 18:09.02 | bbrazil | wathek: cylinday, head, sector = CHS |
| 18:09.02 | abrotman | kspath: was that for /msg ? |
| 18:09.08 | bbrazil | wathek: *cylindar |
| 18:09.13 | kspath | abrotman: apparently, not. |
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| 18:09.41 | filleokus | I have a kind of a situation over here, im trying to install ctorrent but it cant find the packages, and the site is down. So i woundering if anyone know how i should get my ctorrent packages. Wich mirrors i need to add, im on stable |
| 18:09.44 | wathek | bbrazil, I know that but what does it mean current addressable sectors ? |
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| 18:09.54 | kspath | Ungy: :-P~ I need the work more than you do. |
| 18:10.12 | Ungy | kspath, possibly |
| 18:10.19 | abrotman | kspath: i guess that's good .. is it perm ? |
| 18:10.32 | kspath | abrotman: sadly, no. |
| 18:10.42 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.44 | abrotman | bastards! |
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| 18:11.10 | Ungy | abrotman, how dare they only pay you for as long as they need you |
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| 18:11.33 | kspath | Ungy: odd is it not. |
| 18:11.34 | Azar | the manuals show how to create a new user account but no idea how to move all from "Azar" to "newuser" |
| 18:11.55 | grendal_prime | ok abrotman you ever used debtakover? |
| 18:11.57 | kspath | Ungy: I prefer them to hire me for 3 years for an 18 month assignment. |
| 18:12.06 | abrotman | grendal_prime: nope |
| 18:12.10 | Ungy | kspath, yeah I mean come on now once someone hires you they shoudl pay you for the rest of your life |
| 18:12.13 | filleokus | Any ideas? |
| 18:12.17 | abrotman | grendal_prime: i'm not even sure it's still supported/in development |
| 18:12.23 | grendal_prime | im going to do one here local...then im going to do a box in another county |
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| 18:12.28 | MaDDy` | hi |
| 18:12.42 | blondie | I found debtakeover nasty and didn't work properly |
| 18:12.47 | merak | hello...how do I reconfigure sound card? ...it was ok during previous instalation of debian |
| 18:12.52 | Ungy | kspath or be like me they pay you to sit around and wait for problem and everyonce and a whiel say we dont; need you this week come back next week |
| 18:12.57 | MaDDy` | what packages do i need for wlan? |
| 18:12.59 | abrotman | blondie: nasty like ... red eyeshadow nasty? |
| 18:13.02 | grendal_prime | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.12 | blondie | and the idea of an "upgraded" OS like that to make blondie cry |
| 18:13.12 | positron | How do I set a default quota for new users? There's some quota option in /etc/adduser.conf but what I should put there? I cant understand the man edquota for -p switch. Help please? |
| 18:13.14 | kspath | Ungy: hehehe |
| 18:13.15 | blondie | abrotman: umm |
| 18:13.25 | grendal_prime | fairly recent...its going to pull in woody first i think |
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| 18:13.28 | kspath | Ungy: that is much better than no one calling you at all. |
| 18:13.29 | Ungy | kspath, hence why I want your shell scripting job |
| 18:13.30 | grendal_prime | no biggy though |
| 18:13.54 | Ungy | kspath, I suppose but I need stability thinking abotu having kids and all |
| 18:13.55 | kspath | Ungy: I have years and years of experience but no one was calling me even. |
| 18:14.12 | Ungy | kspath, I am thinking of goign into construction |
| 18:14.17 | kspath | Ungy: try having a kid and a mortgage and not even getting calls. |
| 18:14.26 | Ungy | maybe I will lay tile or be an electrition |
| 18:14.29 | abrotman | kspath: ungy has it worse .. he likes mysql |
| 18:14.30 | grendal_prime | and the monkey throws the switch...wish me luck abrotman |
| 18:14.38 | kspath | Ungy: Construction should be good for another 5-10 years due to all the disasters. |
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| 18:14.42 | abrotman | grendal_prime: why .. the monkey is at the switch |
| 18:14.45 | merak | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.45 | merak | libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 18:14.45 | merak | libvorbisfile.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 18:14.45 | merak | Message: device: default |
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| 18:14.48 | efsesfsef | hey |
| 18:14.51 | grendal_prime | hehhe |
| 18:14.52 | grendal_prime | warning: Are you sure what are you going to do ? [Yes I am] |
| 18:14.56 | Ungy | abrotman, my liking mysql got me a side job so yeah it's nto that bad |
| 18:15.02 | grendal_prime | i lke that...that looks promissing |
| 18:15.06 | abrotman | bah .. freaking lag |
| 18:15.07 | kspath | Ungy: I guess if you can not get postgresql working you have to use mysql |
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| 18:15.16 | efsesfsef | hello? |
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| 18:15.30 | Azar | bah ok no new user then |
| 18:15.38 | ronin | you can run kspath but you cant hide |
| 18:15.39 | efsesfsef | so is this file sharing or something? |
| 18:15.53 | ronin | efsesfsef: no its a support channel for a linux distro |
| 18:15.56 | michael | gkrellm got me a 99% cpu usage atm, but top doesnt display any process this big... whats going on? |
| 18:15.57 | Azar | hmm server split? my eth0 goes nuts |
| 18:15.58 | efsesfsef | ohh |
| 18:16.00 | efsesfsef | ok thansk |
| 18:16.03 | efsesfsef | first time using irc |
| 18:16.03 | MaDDy` | what packages do i need for wlan? |
| 18:16.07 | Ungy | kspath, oh I can get it working as I can get Oracle working I don;t really like either very much though I can use them but prefer not to just like I love my windows machien for gaming but I prefer to work under Linux |
| 18:16.17 | ronin | efsesfsef: there are file sharing channels as well as new user help ones |
| 18:16.25 | efsesfsef | ohh |
| 18:16.35 | efsesfsef | ok thanks gusy ill join different channel or server or w..e lol |
| 18:16.38 | kspath | Ungy: hehehe |
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| 18:18.02 | Azar | test |
| 18:18.12 | kspath | Toast |
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| 18:18.27 | Azar | eh I had to unplug the connection for a sec.. |
| 18:18.47 | Ungy | kspath, like with anything I prefer mssql or sybase as a db in general I like db2 as well I have only tried firebird a bit so nto a lot of experience with it I have used Oracle and postgres but I just don;t liek them I use mysql alot for differnet things it is fast small and easy to use but for a lot of things it is not up to snuff for those I use other databases |
| 18:18.47 | kspath | We missed you. :-) |
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| 18:19.20 | wunderbar | anybody knows what happened with the openoffice.org packages in etch? i upgradet from sarge to etch and my openoffice is gone, so i re install it with apt-get install openoffice.org and it installs nicely but when finished with installing there are no openoffice binaries... |
| 18:19.20 | Azar | kspath: until I learn how to configure iptables I will have to go neanderthal ways |
| 18:19.38 | wathek | I got a question when we say sector number it means number of sectors per track ? |
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| 18:19.54 | grendal_prime | abrotman, its pulling down files now...pretty cool. Im doint this on a suse machine here...they wanted me to test suse...so i tested it...not really impressed...now im testing to se how well i can debtakover suse boxes |
| 18:20.04 | Ungy | wunderbar, did you check bugs.debian.org? |
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| 18:20.16 | abrotman | heh |
| 18:20.23 | wunderbar | no |
| 18:20.37 | abrotman | apt-cache search openoffice .. might be called openoffice2 |
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| 18:21.14 | stew | !info openoffice.org etch |
| 18:21.19 | grendal_prime | i have an old redhat mahine that is in another county. if this works im going to do the same with it today. save me an 20 min flight |
| 18:21.21 | dpkg | openoffice.org: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 2.0.0-5 (etch), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 208 kB |
| 18:21.45 | wunderbar | !info openoffice.org etch |
| 18:21.51 | dpkg | openoffice.org: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 2.0.0-5 (etch), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 208 kB |
| 18:22.00 | Ungy | grendal_prime, let me know that sounds handy |
| 18:22.04 | stew | wunderbar: "dpkg -L openoffice.org-bin" should show you what the binaries are called |
| 18:22.32 | wunderbar | Package `openoffice.org-bin' does not contain any files (!) |
| 18:22.56 | wunderbar | Package openoffice.org-bin is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 18:23.03 | wunderbar | However the following packages replace it: |
| 18:23.03 | wunderbar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.11 | wunderbar | and they are installed |
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| 18:23.42 | wunderbar | i think in sarge were a package openoffice.org-bin but its gone |
| 18:24.01 | stew | wunderbar: what happens when you just type "openoffice" |
| 18:24.04 | abrotman | !info openoffice.org-bin etch |
| 18:24.12 | wathek | a sector isn't a block ? |
| 18:24.14 | abrotman | <dpkg> Package 'openoffice.org-bin' does not exist. |
| 18:24.24 | abrotman | duh ... |
| 18:24.29 | abrotman | catchup |
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| 18:24.59 | wunderbar | command not found of course |
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| 18:25.06 | wunderbar | there are no binaries |
| 18:25.12 | wunderbar | in my whole filesystem |
| 18:25.35 | wunderbar | i searched before because i thought maybe they are in a non PATH directory |
| 18:25.55 | stew | wunderbar: no they wouldn't be |
| 18:26.20 | abrotman | dpkg -L openoffice.org-core ? |
| 18:26.20 | dpkg | No packages found matching openoffice.org-core |
| 18:26.27 | abrotman | dpkg: shuddup |
| 18:26.27 | dpkg | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
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| 18:27.04 | stew | wunderbar: oh it looks like its just "ooffice" now, or oocalc, oowriter, etc |
| 18:27.16 | filleokus | what should i add to get unstable packages in stable? |
| 18:27.23 | abrotman | you don't mix |
| 18:27.29 | stew | wunderbar: if those don't work, please put the output of "apt-cache policy openoffice.org openoffice.org-calc" into a pastebin |
| 18:27.39 | stew | filleokus: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 18:27.46 | stew | filleokus: or /msg dpkg backports |
| 18:27.47 | filleokus | abrotman, how to get ctorrent tgeb= |
| 18:27.53 | wunderbar | dpkg -L openoffice.org-core finds many files in /usr/lib/openoffice/program |
| 18:27.54 | dpkg | ii openoffice.org-core finds many files in /usr/lib/openoffice/program 2.4-4.1 wunderbar's private gamp collection |
| 18:27.58 | grendal_prime | Ungy, this is the coolest installation i have ever done |
| 18:28.00 | abrotman | filleokus: you a better mirror ? |
| 18:28.05 | abrotman | err use a better mirror |
| 18:28.22 | filleokus | simple sid backport |
| 18:28.31 | abrotman | !tell filleokus about simple sid backport |
| 18:28.35 | grendal_prime | -> Preserving suse distro network configuration |
| 18:28.36 | grendal_prime | -> Preserving suse distro module configuration |
| 18:28.36 | grendal_prime | Stage (Trash the old system) |
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| 18:28.55 | stew | wunderbar: you shouldn't run the binaries in /usr/lib/openoffice directly, it all should go through /usr/bin/ooo-wrapper |
| 18:28.59 | grendal_prime | -> Removing remaining suse distro files |
| 18:29.09 | grendal_prime | hehehe that is just really funny to watch |
| 18:29.37 | Azar | cool I found users administration manual |
| 18:30.01 | _rene_ | wunderbar: oowriter, oocalc, ooffice, ooimpress, ... |
| 18:30.15 | grendal_prime | its pretty precise as well i mean it does a sanity check to make sure you have all the required apps...generates a list of whats there and whats missing |
| 18:30.31 | _rene_ | wunderbar: of course, neither of them exists when you just install -core |
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| 18:30.47 | wunderbar | i installedjust openoffice.org |
| 18:30.58 | _rene_ | ok, then it shouzld just work |
| 18:30.59 | wunderbar | which should install a whole bunch of files |
| 18:31.04 | _rene_ | oowriter, oocalc, etc |
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| 18:31.36 | wunderbar | openoffice.org-writer is already the newest version. |
| 18:31.50 | wunderbar | they are all there |
| 18:31.52 | stew | wunderbar: please put the output of "apt-cache policy openoffice.org openoffice.org-writer" into a pastebin |
| 18:31.57 | wunderbar | ok |
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| 18:32.48 | Frem | is it possible to uninstall a package without removing all it's deps? |
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| 18:32.58 | bushito | where do apt save my downloaded packages? |
| 18:33.02 | stew | Frem: why do you want to? |
| 18:33.09 | stew | bushito: /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 18:33.15 | bushito | thx |
| 18:33.24 | positron | How do I set a default quota for new users? There's some quota option in /etc/adduser.conf but what I should put there? I cant understand the man edquota for -p switch. Help please? |
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| 18:33.41 | wunderbar | http://pastebin.com/522708 |
| 18:33.45 | diesel | bushito: dpkg -L <package_name> will also show you what files were created when installing the package |
| 18:33.48 | Azar | positron: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/sys-admin/ch05s02.html |
| 18:33.52 | Frem | I accedentally installed a package from etch, and it broke some stuff. |
| 18:33.52 | Azar | I was just at it.. |
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| 18:35.00 | wunderbar | if i run /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice it works |
| 18:35.07 | _rene_ | diesel: that's not exactly true. it shows what files are included *in* the package |
| 18:35.09 | wunderbar | but its still stange |
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| 18:35.41 | stew | wunderbar: what happens when you run /usr/bin/oocalc |
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| 18:35.50 | _rene_ | diesel: it doesn't show files created by postinst for example |
| 18:35.59 | stew | Frem: what version does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" report? |
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| 18:36.18 | Frem | stew: Oh, I already managed to downgrade ibc6 |
| 18:36.39 | Frem | 2.3.2.ds1-22 |
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| 18:37.11 | positron | Azar: there is nothing about adduser and automatic quota? |
| 18:37.39 | stew | Frem: why do you want to remove a package but not its dependencies? if you want to reinstall a specific version, apt-get isntall packagename=version |
| 18:38.04 | Frem | oh. that works, too. |
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| 18:39.44 | harm1988 | I keep getting 503s with pure-ftpd.. anyone who can help me? |
| 18:39.52 | positron | what is a command to make a 3byte file? |
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| 18:41.01 | abrotman | man dd |
| 18:41.02 | Azar | positron: I assume the tutorial is fairly old maybe 2 years old pre-Sarge period.. but personally I am reading it to get the idea... |
| 18:41.13 | wunderbar | stew: now /usr/bin/oocalc and the other oo's are there, i removed openoffice with --purge and reinstalled |
| 18:41.29 | Azar | positron: sorry if it did not helped you.. |
| 18:41.43 | sandman | What's a good PCMCIA network card for linux? |
| 18:41.54 | wunderbar | thanks, its alrigth now |
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| 18:42.21 | wunderbar | strange though, because i did this reinstalltion thing before |
| 18:42.23 | wunderbar | too |
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| 18:42.59 | Frem | stew: this is strange. I'm missing libGL.so.1, yet my xlibmesa-gl package appears to be the sarge version. |
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| 18:43.19 | stew | !find libGL.so.1 sarge |
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| 18:44.10 | stew | Frem: apt-get install --reinstall it maybe? |
| 18:44.13 | c_k | Hi all, is there a linux (debain) version of something like SecureCRT that I can use??? |
| 18:44.41 | ronin | c_k: you dont like a term and teh command ssh? |
| 18:44.48 | cahoot | putty? |
| 18:45.16 | c_k | need something I can have loads of sessions in, ie I work for a ISP and need to have all the routers etc in the same way as in securecrt |
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| 18:46.00 | blondie | c_k: screen |
| 18:46.04 | Frem | yay, it works! thanks, stew. :-) |
| 18:46.16 | nuskool | can anyone tell me what kernel options might be resulting in me having an initial time of 3 hours before the actual time on boot? (becomes annoying having to fsck my partition to set mount times back 3 hours so I don't have "last mount time in the future" errors every time I boot) |
| 18:46.31 | mlewis00 | To configure ~/.fonts/fonts.config do I just copy the /etc/fonts/fonts.config file to ~/.fonts/fonts.config and then edit it and add the ~/.fonts directory to it or is there something more to it? |
| 18:46.45 | c_k | blondie: is that similar to securecrt |
| 18:46.50 | stew | Frem: btw, you should know that mixing stable and non-stable is a no-no |
| 18:47.00 | blondie | c_k: umm well it lets you have lots of "windows" in one terminal |
| 18:47.12 | c_k | yeah but can you save the sessions for later use? |
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| 18:47.25 | Frem | stew: um, yeah. I kinda discovered that about four hours ago. ;-) |
| 18:47.41 | stew | Frem: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 18:48.12 | blondie | c_k: you can leave it running all the time and detach from it |
| 18:48.18 | blondie | and yes you can save the windows |
| 18:48.33 | loafy | stew: you live here? ;> |
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| 18:50.10 | Frem | stew: Best. Debian. Trick. Ever. :-O |
| 18:50.50 | filleokus | The best debian mirror near me (sweden) ? |
| 18:50.57 | XTF | Hi. If you need to do something that requires root on a remote box, is it better to login as root directly or to login as another user and then su(do)? And why? |
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| 18:51.09 | ronin | XTF: option 2 |
| 18:51.16 | dvm1981 | How i can test the sound ? I have some troubles to play an MP3 file, he will not play. I have just setup my sound(i hope), and want to test if there are sound. |
| 18:51.17 | XTF | ronin: Why? |
| 18:51.25 | monteiro | how do i zip subfolders and subfolders next? |
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| 18:52.26 | loafy | XTF: better to login as a user and su(d0), because 1. a lot of boxes don't allow remote root connections, and 2. there's less risk that your pw will be intercepted over the network |
| 18:52.35 | wathek | in current Hard Disk Cylinders nearer to the edge of the platter contain more sectors than cylinders near the spindle isn't it ? |
| 18:52.44 | stew | loafy: i'm never far from a computer, so i guess |
| 18:52.52 | dvm1981 | Also playing a wav file will not work, he do nothing |
| 18:53.00 | Azar | filleokus: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-sources.list >>> chapter 2.3 |
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| 18:53.01 | XTF | loafy: Can you explain the password interception scenario? |
| 18:53.14 | loafy | stew: any other ideas re: netkit-ping... i found CLK_TCK in /usr/includ/time.h |
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| 18:53.37 | stew | loafy: it should be commented out in time.h |
| 18:53.47 | XTF | loafy: And doesn't option 2 require you to keep 2 accounts secure instead of 1 (root)? |
| 18:53.58 | mentor | password interception isn't going to happen unless you have cracked RSA/DSA |
| 18:54.05 | loafy | XTF: if you're using telnet (which you shouldnt) the pw will be in plaintext, if you're using ssh you should be ok but there's still the possibility of a mitm attack |
| 18:54.11 | XTF | wathek: It has always been like that. |
| 18:54.13 | loafy | mentor: isn't RSA/DSA susceptible to a mitm attack? |
| 18:54.18 | loafy | stew: it is, you're right |
| 18:54.22 | loafy | hrm |
| 18:54.26 | wathek | XTF, alright so when I type fdisk -l |
| 18:54.26 | mentor | user->su->root means you have an audit trail |
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| 18:54.33 | XTF | loafy: Won't the su - password be intercepted too? |
| 18:54.38 | mentor | loafy: No. Well, as long as you check the fingerprints. |
| 18:54.43 | wathek | it tells me how many sectors per cylinder how does it know that ? |
| 18:55.06 | XTF | wathek: That's logical, not physical. |
| 18:55.09 | mentor | Generally, letting remote root logins happen makes me feel iffy |
| 18:55.21 | XTF | mentor: Then it's a bit too late I think if you need audit trails. |
| 18:55.22 | keherman | is it possible to modify the udev rules to make /dev/dsp world writable -- i know im crazy... |
| 18:55.22 | mentor | Plus, remote ssh conenctions aren't throttled |
| 18:55.32 | wathek | XTF, logical ! |
| 18:55.35 | dvm1981 | It's impossible to pay an 'wav', 'MP3',... file. The players do nothing, he will not play the music. I have installed 'lame' but i think that i forgot the essential. Can someone help me please ? |
| 18:55.40 | mentor | XTF: No it's not. |
| 18:55.44 | stew | keherman: it is, but you would be better off to add users to the audio group |
| 18:55.45 | Azar | mentor you want to block ssh root logins? |
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| 18:55.54 | Chance | someone help me please: Jan 25 18:48:47 localhost sm-msp-queue[2936]: k0PGmGH9002832: to="Razvanika Tester" <chance@localhost>, ctladdr=xpanel (1005/1005), delay=00:00:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=121912, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: No buffer space available |
| 18:56.06 | Chance | same issue with bind |
| 18:56.10 | XTF | mentor: Exactly what audit trail do you have? |
| 18:56.11 | Chance | what is wrong with my server !? |
| 18:56.17 | keherman | stew, the problem is that LDAP is now honoring that group in the LDAP /etc/group file! |
| 18:56.35 | XTF | wather: What's with the !? |
| 18:56.36 | keherman | stew, i am not worried -- only one user is logged into the terminal at a time in the lab == no remote users |
| 18:56.42 | mentor | XTF: su is logged. Or should be at least. |
| 18:56.46 | keherman | stew, there is no ssh connection |
| 18:56.47 | valdyn_ | Chance: you disk is full? |
| 18:56.55 | hullabaloo | hey, how can i change what disk my debian machine boots up from |
| 18:56.55 | wathek | XTF, lool |
| 18:56.57 | XTF | mentor: True, but I don't think that matters. |
| 18:57.09 | Chance | valdyn_ /dev/hda2 27G 6.0G 20G 24% / |
| 18:57.13 | Chance | not really |
| 18:57.18 | XTF | mentor: If a normal account is compromised, the attacker can let you use another su binary (can't he?) and get the password. |
| 18:57.19 | Azar | dvm1981: I am using xmms with mikmod and mod plugs |
| 18:57.26 | XTF | So his first su - use won't leave a failure in the trail. |
| 18:57.37 | Z_God | hi |
| 18:57.37 | Z_God | I've got a problem with X11 on Debian Sarge |
| 18:57.38 | XTF | wather: lol at what? |
| 18:57.44 | valdyn_ | Chance: /var/ is on that partition? is that mountpoint writable? |
| 18:57.46 | XTF | wathek* |
| 18:57.47 | Z_God | startx crashes, but X and then startkde works |
| 18:57.55 | Z_God | any idea what logs I could check? |
| 18:57.56 | keherman | stew, any idea!??! |
| 18:57.57 | stew | keherman: well you'd do it by changing the mode for the sound subsystem in permissions.rules in /etc/udev |
| 18:57.58 | mentor | XTF: er? |
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| 18:58.10 | keherman | stew, i dont see anything for dsp in there |
| 18:58.12 | stew | keherman: although fixing the actualy problem is probably better of course |
| 18:58.12 | XTF | mentor: er at what part? |
| 18:58.17 | mhall | Will cat'ting /proc/cpuinfo let you know if an SMP box has multiple CPUs? I presume it does but all I have is uniprocessor systems. |
| 18:58.18 | Chance | SOMEONE HELP me please |
| 18:58.28 | keherman | stew, i tried for 10 hours -- bugs in ldap |
| 18:58.41 | mentor | XTF: the attacker changing hte su binary from a normal user account. |
| 18:58.47 | slummer | nuskool: I believe your problem is a bug. |
| 18:58.53 | stew | keherman: the sound subsystem, (grep dsp /etc/udev/* ; grep sound /etc/udev/*) |
| 18:58.54 | valdyn_ | Chance: you first want to answer my question(s) and not use caps |
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| 18:59.00 | XTF | mentor: Yes. A normal user is allowed to change his own path, isn't he? |
| 18:59.00 | keherman | stew, i did! |
| 18:59.03 | dondelelcaro | mhall: yes |
| 18:59.04 | lols | ALL BITCH! |
| 18:59.06 | hullabaloo | hey, how can i change what disk my debian machine boots up from |
| 18:59.06 | mentor | yes |
| 18:59.11 | keherman | stew, i only see something about %k ? |
| 18:59.13 | Chance | valdyn_ i did answered is not full ! |
| 18:59.19 | keherman | stew, which signifies the kernel device name |
| 18:59.25 | lols | CÓÊÈÈ!!!! |
| 18:59.26 | Azar | lols >>> that way out |
| 18:59.27 | XTF | mentor: So what prevents the attacker from putting a compromised binary on the system and putting it earlier in the path then the normal one? |
| 18:59.27 | valdyn_ | Chance: /var/ is on that partition? is that mountpoint writable? |
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| 18:59.33 | stew | keherman: what version of udev do you have installed? |
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| 18:59.48 | Chance | valdyn_ yes as long that is mounted to / so /var is in there |
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| 19:00.05 | valdyn_ | Chance: now try if its writable... |
| 19:00.05 | mentor | XTF: There's no such thing as perfect security. Disallowing root logins just makes it harder. |
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| 19:00.25 | cisse | disallowing root logins doesn't improve your security in the least |
| 19:00.30 | grendal_prime | hmmm all went well untell it got to the part where its purging the old system |
| 19:00.34 | XTF | mentor: I disgree for exactly this reason. |
| 19:00.43 | stew | from a security standpoint you should assume that anyone who is able to gain user access is able to escalate it to root access somehow |
| 19:00.44 | Chance | it is |
| 19:00.44 | grendal_prime | its ether taking its time...or i just need to reboot that machine |
| 19:00.45 | mentor | Go argue with Theo |
| 19:00.49 | Azar | cisse remote ssh root logins he meant.. |
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| 19:00.56 | cisse | Azar: i know |
| 19:00.56 | slug | hello all |
| 19:00.56 | Chance | valdyn_ it is writable |
| 19:01.06 | mentor | stew: Soft on the outside, crunchy on the inside. |
| 19:01.11 | dondelelcaro | it's not like you can't turn on root logins if you want |
| 19:01.19 | dondelelcaro | it's just a reasonably sane default |
| 19:01.20 | mentor | stew: Oh no...the other way around. |
| 19:01.22 | slug | i have a question its not really a debian question but maybe someone can help me... |
| 19:01.23 | grendal_prime | and i cant login to it even at the machine. missing /mimgetty |
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| 19:01.40 | valdyn_ | Chance: how do you know? what does 'mount' tell about it? |
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| 19:01.47 | slug | what nvidia graficcard is eqivalent to a radeon 9800 pro? |
| 19:01.48 | XTF | Why aren't SSH logins throttled? |
| 19:01.48 | grendal_prime | slug...go to the Not really a debian irc channel |
| 19:01.56 | keherman | stew, let me check |
| 19:01.57 | Azar | for the admin there is a way around that so remote root logins can stay |
| 19:02.04 | mentor | meh |
| 19:02.05 | XTF | An Geforce 9800 pro? |
| 19:02.15 | Chance | valdyn_ i just writed something in there |
| 19:02.22 | slug | XTF: hehe |
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| 19:02.42 | slug | yes that would be the same |
| 19:02.54 | mentor | do Fixed Feature Power Buttons appear in /proc/acpi/wakeup? (PWRF; Power Button (FF)) |
| 19:03.11 | dondelelcaro | XTF: if you want throttling, set up something like fail2ban |
| 19:03.26 | slug | dont really want to sell the card but i have big trouble under debian with direct rendering |
| 19:03.26 | XTF | dondelelcaro: Why isn't that enabled by default? |
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| 19:03.35 | slug | so i want a nvidia |
| 19:04.20 | Azar | XTF maybe because debian is not dedicated to newbies? |
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| 19:04.27 | dvm1981 | Azar: Thx for you support, i also use 'xmms', i have looking for 'mikmod' and find it. but not 'mod plugs'. What is the last? I not find this package or description |
| 19:04.30 | maximus | Hi I just switched to xorg-6.9 and everything is functioning. If I use the opensource radeon drive I can use xcomgr and transset with great stability. However, I loose 3d dri support. If I use the ATI propietary driver xcomg does not work at all. Is there a way to get dri to work with the opensource radeon driver? |
| 19:04.52 | loafy | stew: wait, im stupid... CLK_TCK isn't commented out in time.h it's just a #define |
| 19:04.53 | Azar | dvm1981: try modplug |
| 19:04.59 | grendal_prime | nvidia you might want to think twice about that |
| 19:05.14 | grendal_prime | i have a 9800 ati in the kids machine...works great |
| 19:05.17 | XTF | dondelecaro: fail2ban looks a bit like a hack (scanning logs, changing firewalls). |
| 19:05.18 | dondelelcaro | XTF: because it's an extra module, and not built into ssh itself. |
| 19:05.24 | bobbens | maximus: what distro? |
| 19:05.32 | maximus | Sid |
| 19:05.37 | maximus | bobbens, Sid |
| 19:05.52 | bobbens | maximus: try http://bobbens.dyndns.org/wiki/index.php/X6.9:r300 and tell me what you think about it. Works for me |
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| 19:05.59 | stew | loafy: hah, you're right, i've been coding in too many scripting languages lately... :) |
| 19:06.02 | bobbens | maximus: also worked for quite a few others :) |
| 19:06.04 | slug | grendal_prime: arent the linux driver more stable |
| 19:06.08 | loafy | stew: ditto, freakin php. |
| 19:06.11 | Azar | dvm1981: modplug and wave |
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| 19:06.26 | dvm1981 | Azar: Yee, find it :-) 'xmms-modplug' |
| 19:06.39 | loafy | stew: so maybe ping.c isn't including time.h for some reason... hrm. |
| 19:06.47 | maximus | bobbens, Thanks |
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| 19:07.02 | bobbens | maximus: np, drop some feedback please after trying it ;) |
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| 19:07.34 | grendal_prime | for ati? you have to beat the crap out of the kernel is my understanding |
| 19:07.43 | grendal_prime | im sorry..i mean nvidia |
| 19:08.19 | maximus | bobbens, Will do going of page now and makeing sure I have all. Let you know in a few hopfully. |
| 19:08.30 | slug | grendal_prime: radeon rules! that is clear, but with compatibility with linux ... hmm ... |
| 19:08.30 | grendal_prime | I downloaded the drivers for the ati card because i wanted the tv out port to work..but other than that i didnt even need to install them |
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| 19:08.45 | loafy | stew: haha, well that was easy enough... i added #include <time.h> in ping.c and it compiled clean! |
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| 19:09.04 | dvm1981 | Azar: For 'wave' i find nothings particular, i looking bad i think |
| 19:09.09 | stew | loafy: which .c were you talking about? |
| 19:09.21 | loafy | ping/ping.c |
| 19:09.25 | grendal_prime | i take it back...tuxcart use to lock up when my daughter played it...kinda...unpredictably..but now with the ati drivers installed it never locks |
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| 19:09.26 | Azar | dvm1981: xmms should have it in preferences, just look at the menu in xmms |
| 19:09.26 | dvm1981 | Azar: Im in 'Testing' |
| 19:09.44 | stew | loafy: #include <time.h> is already there |
| 19:09.56 | Azar | dvm1981: I guess that does not make a difference all these plugs are xmms issue |
| 19:09.57 | tziku^off | hello i have a problem, i'm trying to install an ircd server but: checking for libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h . I install all postgresql package . But same error. |
| 19:10.05 | loafy | stew: no, sys/time.h is already there... |
| 19:10.06 | stew | loafy: line 70 for me |
| 19:10.15 | loafy | stew: are you kidding, line 70 is blank for me... |
| 19:10.31 | slug | grendal_prime: anyway the reason i want to change to nvidia is only because compatibility issues |
| 19:10.32 | loafy | stew: you have time.h between sys/signal and netinet.in? |
| 19:10.40 | loafy | ^.in^/in |
| 19:11.03 | stew | loafy: yes |
| 19:11.09 | loafy | stew: that's weird as hell. |
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| 19:12.15 | dvm1981 | Azar: I have look in the options of 'xmms'. But i find it strange that im can not play any sound, the player does nothing, i have try with severals players, i really think that ihave forget something, but what? |
| 19:12.21 | loafy | stew: could we have gotten different versions from different apt servers? |
| 19:12.36 | monteiro | which is the name of the package that displays the "find window" in gnome ? |
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| 19:13.18 | dvm1981 | Azar: It's the case with all players, he will not play, it's look that he is in pause or at stop, and i been pressing the play button, but he do nothings with all players. |
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| 19:14.38 | Azar | dvm1981: are you using alsa ? |
| 19:14.42 | nima | dont you just love it when firefox runs away on memory, filling up your swap? |
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| 19:14.48 | dvm1981 | Azar: Yes |
| 19:15.12 | Azar | dvm1981: checked your speakers just in case.. plugged in correctly? |
| 19:15.18 | dvm1981 | Azar: But not sure he working, this is way i want absolute try to play something so i know |
| 19:15.27 | Azar | dvm1981: no wait, is the xmms moving when you select and play a song? |
| 19:15.27 | dvm1981 | Azar: Laptop |
| 19:15.38 | dvm1981 | Azar: No |
| 19:15.49 | Azar | hmm ok.. wait |
| 19:15.59 | dvm1981 | Azar: He do nothings, with all player, the bar not move to indicate the playing possition |
| 19:16.02 | stew | loafy: my 0.10-10.dsc gives me md5's of 580ad175106310c3bb05fe9e823bfaa5 and ec3ee713db845ec1e495a318c777d211, which match the .orig.tgz and the .diff.gz |
| 19:16.13 | Azar | dvm1981: by chance did you disabled your oss modules? |
| 19:16.40 | dvm1981 | Azar: Eeuhm ... i don't know |
| 19:17.16 | Azar | dvm check ( do a "less") less /etc/modules.conf and see if your oss module is there |
| 19:17.17 | dvm1981 | Azar: So i must be disable it ? I have not activate it, |
| 19:17.24 | eeyore- | dvm1981: alsa or oss? |
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| 19:17.35 | nima | firefox is still an awesome browser, but it just loves memory |
| 19:17.36 | Azar | dvm1981: by default oss loads and prevents the alsa modules to load at startup |
| 19:17.39 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: alsa i think |
| 19:18.00 | PupenoL | how do I make my debian workstation request an ipv6 to my debian server running radvd ? |
| 19:18.02 | dvm1981 | Azar: a light ... |
| 19:18.07 | Azar | dvm1981: alsa modules show with a snd_ at the begining |
| 19:18.16 | Azar | dvm1981: what sound card you have? |
| 19:18.19 | eeyore- | dmv1981: "think" is not "am sure", check. run 'alsamixer', un-mute master and pcm channels |
| 19:18.35 | loafy | stew: i don't know, that's really weird... i downloaded it twice, remember... same error both times... *shrug*, it works now. |
| 19:18.49 | Azar | dvm1981: yep listen to eeyore, he helped me great with my alsa settings |
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| 19:18.54 | nima | if firefox and memory were members of opposite sexes, they would be all over each other |
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| 19:19.08 | harm1988 | where are the password of pure-ftpd stored? |
| 19:19.32 | dvm1981 | Azar: An ESS1868 i think, i look now for the exact |
| 19:19.40 | majnoon | TRYING to do apt-get install a program and get the following ::: /bin/sh: line 1: 1849 Segmentation fault /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt |
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| 19:20.02 | eeyore- | dmv1981: when you run alsamixer, you'll see a bunch of vertical columns. use cursor (left/right) to move to "master" and press "m" until the bottom part of "master" no longer shows "MM" (MM = mute) |
| 19:20.12 | dvm1981 | Azar: An ESS1688 |
| 19:20.13 | mhall | harm1988: by default, it uses unix accounts |
| 19:20.20 | eeyore- | dmv19: then move to PCM column and do the same thing, that's how you un-mute the two channels |
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| 19:20.33 | dvm1981 | Azar: Ok i also listen to everybody here |
| 19:20.34 | Azar | dvm1981: example: my audio oss module is called via82cxxx_audio while an alsa module will be snd_via82cxx |
| 19:20.49 | keherman | stew, it worked by adding MODE=0666 to the permissons |
| 19:20.56 | harm1988 | dvm1981 so if i create a user, lets say UserA with pass PASS it will auto make it FTP-able? |
| 19:21.15 | LinuxNIT | How do I get scrpt foo.sh to run at everylog in with out respect for the wm I choose with gdm? |
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| 19:21.29 | dvm1981 | harm1988: Wrong person i think |
| 19:21.29 | eeyore- | LinuxNIT: can't |
| 19:21.34 | Cybodog | how would I run a script foo.sh at every log in (gui) with out respect of the wm I choose with gdm? |
| 19:21.34 | LinuxNIT | noooooooooooooooooo |
| 19:21.39 | dondelelcaro | LinuxNIT: your best bet is to not use the stupid WM chooser, and use .xsession instead |
| 19:21.40 | Cybodog | oh, nv |
| 19:21.42 | LinuxNIT | lol cyberkni i just asked |
| 19:21.48 | dvm1981 | harm1988: But i listen ;-) |
| 19:21.58 | LinuxNIT | k thanks guys |
| 19:21.59 | harm1988 | where can i find the PURe-FTPD logins + passwords? |
| 19:22.01 | eeyore- | LinuxNIT: you can't possibly plug all the possibilities |
| 19:22.13 | LinuxNIT | :(( |
| 19:22.21 | harm1988 | i just need a way, non SSH, for people to upload their websites to their dirs |
| 19:22.23 | stew | harm1988: it just uses pam unless you changed it to use something different |
| 19:22.28 | Azar | sigh dvm1981 I do not know a direct way to find your module but if I were you id run modconf and look at the module name given for my audio hence ESSwhatever and note it down then look in /etc/module.conf for it to #comment it out then replace it with a snd_ |
| 19:22.29 | dvm1981 | harm1988: Euhm, i can not directly help on this question |
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| 19:22.36 | eeyore- | LinuxNIT: what if just execute "startx", or even run the binary X directly? |
| 19:22.40 | harm1988 | stew.. pam = ? |
| 19:22.45 | stew | !pam |
| 19:22.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pam is the Pluggable Authentication Modules. Check http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ for more information. Linux-PAM SysAdmin's Guide is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html. PAM Always Malfunctions |
| 19:23.00 | stew | harm1988: it uses normal system accounts, unless you tell it otherwise |
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| 19:23.06 | eeyore- | harm1988: "webdav" |
| 19:23.11 | LinuxNIT | eeyore-, you mean and not use gdm rgiht? |
| 19:23.43 | eeyore- | LinuxNIT: pretty much. you can't guarantee that any script is going to get executed upon login, irrespective of whether you use gdm/kdm/xdm/whatever |
| 19:24.10 | LinuxNIT | eeyore-, ok thanks guess i was hoping against hope :) |
| 19:24.22 | Azar | dvm1981: the trick is to find out the exact name your sound module goes by and make sure you have alsa modules installed, then run alsamixer and unmute the channels.. in xmms preference switch from oss to alsa.. |
| 19:24.22 | eeyore- | LinuxNIT: what are you really trying to achieve? |
| 19:24.26 | dvm1981 | Azar: Yes, i have read some informations on 'linux on laptop' he say me to put some things in the 'modules.conf', i have paste it to the end of the file. I see here that in my 'modules.conf' there are manny things about OSS |
| 19:24.28 | majnoon | TRYING to do apt-get install a program and get the following ::: /bin/sh: line 1: 1849 Segmentation fault /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt |
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| 19:25.00 | Cybodog | eeyore- lol, I ask him that after he askes me questions also, he is oblique |
| 19:25.04 | Azar | dvm1981: to be in the safe side, do NOT remove nothing, just # comment them out the oss stuff |
| 19:25.07 | stew | majnoon: what version of debian? |
| 19:25.11 | harm1988 | ok ill check that |
| 19:25.13 | dvm1981 | Azar: You give here really good tips here ;-) i have chance, also with my logfile of the chat here :-) |
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| 19:25.25 | LinuxNIT | i just wrote a script to check for stuff and configure accordingly as to my network stiuation when i login |
| 19:25.27 | dvm1981 | Azar: Right |
| 19:25.28 | majnoon | basically sarge i THINK |
| 19:25.37 | LinuxNIT | wanted it to execute at login not boot |
| 19:25.41 | LinuxNIT | thats all |
| 19:25.44 | eeyore- | LinuxNIT: that's not a good way to do it |
| 19:25.48 | Azar | dvm1981: I am just a newbie like you, I only share my experience from installations |
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| 19:26.02 | eeyore- | LinuxNIT: debian has the infrastructure for post-up/pre-down and so on so forth |
| 19:26.02 | LinuxNIT | why not? |
| 19:26.10 | slug | someone here know a hardware question related channel ? |
| 19:26.13 | Cybodog | LinuxNIT, I did the same thing, only I made a link to it so when I logged on, I would execute the symlink, (or click the icon thingy) |
| 19:26.18 | eeyore- | LinuxNIT: there are also daemons you can run that respond to changes in interface link status |
| 19:26.26 | dvm1981 | Azar: That's a really good thing what you do man ;-) I want to copy and paste you :-) |
| 19:26.27 | jshoenberger | Why is it everytime I exit vim I get the message "Can't write to $HOME/.viminfo?" |
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| 19:26.46 | dvm1981 | Azar: So there are good duplications ;-) |
| 19:26.47 | eeyore- | LinuxNIT: that's a much better way to handle it, at the system level, in response to changing conditions --- not in response to logins |
| 19:26.50 | Cybodog | linuxnit eeyore- refores to /etc/networking |
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| 19:26.58 | LinuxNIT | ok |
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| 19:27.00 | LinuxNIT | thanks guys |
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| 19:27.30 | cahoot | jshoenberger: ls -l $HOME/.viminfo says what? |
| 19:27.53 | Cybodog | lol |
| 19:27.54 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: because you can't write to $HOME/.viminfo ? |
| 19:28.03 | jshoenberger | but it's owned by me |
| 19:28.06 | Cybodog | eeyore- do you happen to have a howto handy? |
| 19:28.10 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: prove it :-) |
| 19:28.12 | jshoenberger | And it's chmod 300 |
| 19:28.16 | eeyore- | Cybodog: google for it :-) |
| 19:28.23 | Cybodog | well do, |
| 19:28.27 | Cybodog | of course :) |
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| 19:29.19 | eeyore- | Cybodog: google for "linux ifplugd" |
| 19:29.37 | Cybodog | eeyore- got it ty |
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| 19:30.17 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: also, in that shell where you get the "can't write" message, echo $HOME and see if it's valid |
| 19:30.38 | jshoenberger | interesting... blank? |
| 19:30.52 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: do it, let me see the output. also, "mount" (and see it's mounted read-write), and "lsattr $HOME/.viminfo" and "lsattr -d $HOME" |
| 19:30.54 | Cybodog | that way, the laptop is a cypher for windows geeks who get a hold of it. |
| 19:31.08 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: well then, somehow you have no $HOME? :-) |
| 19:31.15 | jshoenberger | ... |
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| 19:31.43 | Azar | dvm1981: I learned the hard way that there are general pre-requisites in order to have success with video and sound: 1. have 2.6.x kernel which have a greater support for hardware device settings 2. check the modules corresponding to your video/sound -- only then you commit to install video and sound drivers |
| 19:31.52 | harm1988 | how do i access files via samba-terminal |
| 19:32.00 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: if i'm not mistaken, it's the responsibility of login to set your HOME. let me check |
| 19:33.20 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: yep, according to manpage for 'login', it (login) is supposed to set HOME, SHELL, PATH, and LOGNAME |
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| 19:34.04 | jshoenberger | So... |
| 19:34.20 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: is this an X terminal, or what exactly is it? |
| 19:34.35 | jshoenberger | SSH to a datacenter |
| 19:35.09 | dvm1981 | Azar: I not been understand, enfin a little bit, i have a bad english. Must i deinstall the 'alsa' load the module before, and reinstall 'alsa' ? |
| 19:35.18 | Keiser | Question: Want to install Debian on Sun Ultra 10 (Sparc). Simply, what discs are needed for basic server install from CD. |
| 19:35.33 | dvm1981 | Azar: It seems that i have not the alsa modules installed |
| 19:35.41 | Azar | dvm1981: no, oss and alsa can sit on your system you only have to disable oss |
| 19:36.01 | Azar | dvm hmm |
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| 19:36.08 | Azar | wait |
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| 19:36.43 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: csh/tcsh? |
| 19:36.46 | jshoenberger | bash |
| 19:36.52 | dvm1981 | Azar: Seeing of i have been understand it : I must just comment(#) some oss modules and so it disable OSS ? |
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| 19:37.21 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: weird. maybe they have some funky bash setup ... is this solaris or linux? |
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| 19:37.27 | jshoenberger | Debian Linux |
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| 19:37.46 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: ok now that's just freaky :-) haven't seen this behaviour on a debian box before |
| 19:37.57 | jshoenberger | It's the weirdest thing, there's things that work...but wrong, and I can't chown ANYTHING |
| 19:38.05 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: what if you "su - <yourself>", do you now get the HOME env var? |
| 19:38.05 | mfork | I have a source package that I need to build and install. When I do apt-src install <package> it fails because the location it tries to download from is wrong. I have download the 3 files it needs by hand and put them in the current directory. How can I build and install them from there? Thanks. |
| 19:38.16 | Keiser | \exit |
| 19:38.25 | Azar | dvm1981: check for alsa modules : less /etc/modprobe.d/sound |
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| 19:38.42 | jshoenberger | I have the proper home variable now, but I'm pretty sure I set it myself |
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| 19:39.04 | eeyore- | jshoenberger: well, do it from the beginning ... ssh to the datacenter, and then "su - <yourself>" again |
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| 19:39.09 | jshoenberger | k |
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| 19:39.49 | dvm1981 | Azar: alias snd-card-0 snd-es18xx |
| 19:39.57 | shwag | are ICMP messages tcp, udp , or either/or ? |
| 19:39.59 | Azar | dvm1981: so you got alsa there |
| 19:40.01 | jshoenberger | right as I get in $HOME is the proper address |
| 19:40.05 | eeyore- | shwag: neither |
| 19:40.42 | Sander-nl | Hmm seems I need another version of libc6.. can someone help me out with that? |
| 19:40.42 | cisse | shwag: they are their own type |
| 19:40.42 | shwag | ok |
| 19:40.42 | dvm1981 | Azar: options snd-es18xx index=0 isapnp=0 dma1=0 dma2=0 irq=10 |
| 19:40.46 | Azar | dvm1981: in /etc/modules.conf look for any "non snd_" that looks like es18xx_audio and comment it out , then save |
| 19:40.58 | Sander-nl | Says i have the latest version though |
| 19:41.12 | eeyore- | shwag: neither/nor :-) |
| 19:41.24 | shwag | cool |
| 19:41.46 | eeyore- | shwag: http://www.protocols.com/pbook/tcpip3.htm#ICMP |
| 19:42.13 | stew | Azar: in /etc/modules.conf, look at the top of the file that says "do not edit this file" |
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| 19:42.23 | Azar | dvm1981: if you do not have "alsamixer" apt-get install it then run it by typing alsamixer command, unmute channels and then save settings with command alsactl store |
| 19:42.47 | shwag | what I dont understand is that traceroute uses ICMP_Time_Exceeded, but also uses UDP? it sends a UDP packet,..and the Time Exceeded is just the reply maybe. |
| 19:42.59 | Azar | stew, ah well I just commented it out and it worked for me ( the oss module commented out I mean) |
| 19:42.59 | dvm1981 | Azar: right, i doing so, slow laptop, chees |
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| 19:43.25 | stew | Azar: your changes will eventually be overwritten |
| 19:43.50 | Azar | stew you are right, dvm1981 stop don't do that |
| 19:44.19 | Azar | stew how he can then disable oss? |
| 19:44.33 | stew | Azar: alsaconf should take care of that for him |
| 19:44.44 | dvm1981 | Azar, stew : Ok i have follow, but just running 'update-modules' ? |
| 19:44.50 | nima | im getting some weird errors when i try to start firefox |
| 19:44.58 | Azar | ah cool thank you dvm1981 listen to stew, run alsaconf |
| 19:44.59 | nima | it wont start except in safe mode |
| 19:45.26 | nima | the errors are some stuff about not being able to remove a file |
| 19:45.30 | nima | or files |
| 19:45.43 | dvm1981 | Azar: Yeh, really thankx to you, and everybody ;-) |
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| 19:45.57 | eeyore- | shwag: where/which traceroute do you see this behaviour? |
| 19:46.13 | shwag | eeyore-, reading about it here..second page, http://www.eventhelix.com/RealtimeMantra/Networking/Icmp.pdf |
| 19:46.49 | harm1988 | how can u get a file via samba from my other computer? iam in terminal as root |
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| 19:47.16 | eeyore- | shwag: traceroute makes its own UDP packets with specific TTL field |
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| 19:47.42 | eeyore- | shwag: right, so what's the problem? :-) |
| 19:48.11 | dvm1981 | Azar, stew : I see my card there in the menu ;-) i continue on my slow lovely laptop |
| 19:48.15 | shwag | eeyore-, i get it now. |
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| 19:48.56 | eeyore- | shwag: supposedly microsoft tracert does it differently |
| 19:49.03 | PupenoL | why do some services do not appear on rcconf (like tspc) ? |
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| 19:49.53 | dvm1981 | Going to eat, and then... i continue with setting up my sound. Thankx to everybody for the good support |
| 19:49.58 | shwag | eeyore-, "The Windows utility uses ICMP echo request, better known as ping packets." |
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| 19:51.11 | grumillo | hi, how can i check on which partition on my hard drive is installed a specific folder? thanks |
| 19:51.20 | SimonRaven | @tiw |
| 19:51.22 | hans0lo | Is there a way to change the 'nice' level of a running process? |
| 19:51.25 | jpablo | grumillo, df |
| 19:51.28 | SimonRaven | bah |
| 19:51.28 | eeyore- | grumillo: mount, read the output |
| 19:51.31 | jpablo | hans0lo, man renice |
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| 19:51.38 | hans0lo | jpablo: ty |
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| 19:51.45 | ravenbird | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of simonraven) |
| 19:51.48 | grumillo | thanks |
| 19:51.53 | SimonRaven | @tiw |
| 19:51.53 | ravenbird | this IS NOT windows... |
| 19:52.45 | Frem | how observent. |
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| 19:53.01 | SimonRaven | how misspelled |
| 19:53.12 | veleno | hello. i was trying to launch some opengl games (tux-racer, unreal tournament), and I found something strange with 3d accelation. i found this http://veleno.pastebin.com/522810 in my Xorg.log file. what does it mean ? i installed official nvidia drivers.. |
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| 19:53.18 | Frem | true. |
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| 19:54.17 | Azar | dvm1981: less /etc/modules and see if you have any "non snd_" module something like ess18xx_audio that would be the oss you need to # comment there |
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| 19:54.42 | Greatred | veleno, is the nvidia module loaded into the kernel? |
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| 19:55.12 | stew | Azar: what makes you think he has oss modules loaded in the first place? |
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| 19:55.33 | eeyore- | all this effort about oss/alsa is ... too much :-) |
| 19:55.39 | Azar | stew, only because by default I had them loaded so just a thought.. |
| 19:55.51 | stew | Azar: /msg dpkg iydkdk |
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| 19:56.04 | eeyore- | it's probably just something simple like muting, *or*, running/not running sound multiplexer daemons |
| 19:56.25 | stew | Azar: you are sending people on wild goose chases often, it seems |
| 19:56.45 | Azar | stew, all I learned I learned mostly here.. |
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| 19:57.21 | veleno | Greatred, it is, lsmod shows it. |
| 19:57.30 | Azar | stew I guess I am out of track with new Sarge changes.. |
| 19:57.38 | stew | Azar: "/msg dpkg alsa one-liner" should be all one needs |
| 19:57.45 | stew | Azar: sarge doesn't change |
| 19:57.56 | ronin | k31th_: excellent choice |
| 19:58.06 | Greatred | veleno, do you have /dev/nvidia0 and /dev/nvidiactl ? |
| 19:58.34 | Azar | stew, during my over 50 installs and configurations I noted that some things were not the same, for example, one time sarge installed with alsa modules, other times not |
| 19:58.34 | kspath | k31th: where is red dwarf? |
| 19:58.40 | veleno | Greatred, yes, they're there. |
| 19:58.50 | Greatred | odd :( |
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| 19:59.03 | Greatred | veleno, okay, well that was my quick guesses exhausted :( |
| 19:59.03 | Azar | stew, if dvm1981 installed Sarge with alsa modules , I would not dare to tell him install alsa again |
| 19:59.25 | stew | Azar: it installs with alsa modules when you install the 2.6 kernel and not when you install the 2.4 kernel, with the 2.4 kernel you need to install an additional package (/msg dpkg 2.4 alsa one-liner) |
| 19:59.46 | Azar | stew, ah I see thanks for the hint |
| 19:59.52 | kspath | k31th: red dwarf the brit sci-fi comedy? |
| 20:00.06 | PupenoL | why do some services do not appear on rcconf (like tspc) ? |
| 20:00.08 | ronin | kspath: yes i expect so |
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| 20:00.25 | stew | Azar: in any case, you should try to determine what the cause of a problem is before you have poeple trying to fix what you guess the cuase might be |
| 20:00.40 | kspath | I miss brit sci-fi and brit comedy |
| 20:00.45 | WizeGuy | hi. Could anyone point me to where I can get kernel-headers-2.6.14? |
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| 20:01.05 | stew | WizeGuy: they are now named linux-headers-* |
| 20:01.08 | Azar | stew, if he did not have alsa loaded at bootup, I only assumed that the default oss will load |
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| 20:01.24 | loxley | hey guys, how can i make my debian box boot from a raid 1 ? i want / /boot /swap to be raided.. |
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| 20:01.50 | Sander-nl | how do I check what IP I'm using? |
| 20:01.57 | veleno | Greatred, do I need any special package installed ? |
| 20:02.00 | Azar | Sander-nl: ifconfig |
| 20:02.06 | stew | Azar: but you didn't try to determin if oss modules were loaded or if alsa modules were loaded first |
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| 20:02.17 | maximus | bobbens, Well everything compiled but DRI does not work still. I also tried the r200 since I have and xpress 200 |
| 20:02.19 | WizeGuy | stew: thanks, I'm new to this, so wasn't aware. :) |
| 20:02.19 | ronin | Sander-nl: infconfig or sites like ipchicken if your on nat and yo uwant the external |
| 20:02.30 | ronin | damn it ifconfig not infconfig |
| 20:02.32 | Azar | stew true.. |
| 20:02.37 | Sander-nl | thanks |
| 20:02.46 | Greatred | veleno, i'm not aware of needing anything. i install from the nvidia installers from the nvidia website, it always seems to work for me |
| 20:03.10 | Azar | :) gentoobie |
| 20:03.45 | Azar | Greatred: when it crashes, come back and ask how to do it the debian way |
| 20:04.11 | Greatred | Azar, okay, i will ;) |
| 20:04.25 | Greatred | Azar, although it's been running fine for over two years |
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| 20:04.32 | WizeGuy | stew: do you know if there is a kernel-image-2.6.15? |
| 20:04.37 | Azar | Greatred: if you run woody, ok |
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| 20:05.03 | Greatred | Azar, i'm running sid. i guess i'm just too lazy to use the packaged version |
| 20:05.21 | veleno | Greatred, i'll try reinstall then :-( |
| 20:05.35 | Greatred | veleno, reinstall of what? |
| 20:05.36 | stew | WizeGuy: "apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.15" afaik, 2.6.15 is in unstable but not testing |
| 20:05.47 | bobbens | maximus: what does lspci say about your card? try "lspci | grep VGA" should say something about the chipset |
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| 20:06.36 | veleno | Greatred, of nvidia-drivers. just to be sure, do you see anything weird in the outout of glxinfo: http://veleno.pastebin.com/522827 ? |
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| 20:06.47 | sandman | tar stores permissions by default, yes? |
| 20:07.03 | cisse | think so |
| 20:07.06 | Greatred | veleno, come to think of it... |
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| 20:07.14 | Greatred | veleno, can you paste your x config? |
| 20:07.15 | WizeGuy | stew: thanks again. :) |
| 20:07.20 | sandman | When will Etch be usable again? |
| 20:07.24 | Greatred | i want to check against mine |
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| 20:07.44 | sandman | Does Unstable work yet? |
| 20:07.54 | Greatred | when did unstable break? |
| 20:08.00 | maximus | bobbens, It is an onboard PCIe card. DRI works great with ATI's drivers. and xcompmgr works great with opensources. go figure. Here is what lspci says..... VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series] |
| 20:08.04 | Ungy | sandman when did etch break? |
| 20:08.15 | Ungy | sandman when did sid not work? |
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| 20:08.22 | Azar | hmm I am not using any mail client, could I remove mail notes from crontab? |
| 20:08.30 | worthy | hello |
| 20:08.56 | Malagmyr | How do I know what iptables rules overrule eachother? If I have two rules, one that blocks everything from 192.168.1.5 and another that allows port 22 from anywhere, how do I control wherether or not this allows 192.168.1.5 to connect to port 22? |
| 20:09.14 | sandman | Ungy: I don't know. I upgraded from etch, and many things will not install |
| 20:09.26 | sandman | dpkg returns error codes often. |
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| 20:09.33 | stew | Malagmyr: the first rule that matches wins |
| 20:09.46 | stew | Malagmyr: so you better put the accept on port 22 first |
| 20:10.07 | stew | sandman: welcome to sid |
| 20:10.16 | sandman | stew: I'm trying to use etch |
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| 20:10.29 | stew | sandman: what exactly is the problem you are having? |
| 20:10.31 | Greatred | sid breaks things :) |
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| 20:11.09 | SerajewelKS | my sshd seems to be dropping idle connections. i do not want this to happen, as i have established -R/-L tunnels over a session. the sshd_config manpage does not seem to list any timeout interval. how can i disable timeouts, or at least enable some kind of connectivity test before dropping the connection? |
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| 20:11.23 | sandman | I'm trying to install debconf, but it depends on debconf-2.0. So I figured I'd grab the source package for debconf to see what I could do. Well, apparently the build dependencies for debconf all depend on debconf |
| 20:11.26 | yzrider088 | hello, i am trying to boot off a floppy and i get "Syslinux Boot failed" |
| 20:11.26 | maximus | bobbens, well I guess I have to use the r300 ... from dri.freedesktop.og ..... The r300 project has an experimental 3D driver for R300 and newer chips, with some success reported for R4xx cards |
| 20:11.26 | stew | SerajewelKS: is one side behind nat? |
| 20:11.29 | yzrider088 | why is this? |
| 20:11.30 | sandman | So I'm kind of crippled. |
| 20:11.48 | SerajewelKS | stew: both, kinda. the server is in the DMZ, the client is behind a university router. |
| 20:12.05 | stew | SerajewelKS: are you sure its not the firewall that is dropping a idle NAT connection? |
| 20:12.11 | pipeline | bobbens, maximus : Heh, as bad as the proprietary driver is, I would avoid the open source driver unless you're on an architecture ATI doesn't support... |
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| 20:12.22 | yzrider088 | i used the boot.img off one of the debian mirrors, and used rawritewin to write the file |
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| 20:12.28 | SerajewelKS | stew: it could be.. the error is connection reset iirc |
| 20:12.31 | yzrider088 | yet it says Boot failed....every time |
| 20:12.49 | SerajewelKS | stew: so enabling ClientAliveInterval should do the trick? |
| 20:12.58 | stew | !depends debconf testing |
| 20:13.04 | harm1988 | how can i move a couple of files via samba? just like mv |
| 20:13.31 | maximus | pipeline, Well the open source drive is stable with xcompmgr and transset but no dri while ATI's has dri but screws everything up with xcompmgr and transset. |
| 20:13.51 | cisse | maximus: i had issues with ati and the latest xorg, i went back one version |
| 20:14.12 | SerajewelKS | stew: also, there is a 'KeepAlive' option in sshd_config -- the manpage only lists TCPKeepAlive. are these the same thing, and wouldn't that prevent a NAT layer from dropping the connection? |
| 20:14.21 | pipeline | maximus: Uh, what the hell does xcompmgr / transset do? |
| 20:14.22 | pipeline | maximus: Other than transparency. |
| 20:14.29 | pipeline | maximus: Do those actually provide some useful function? |
| 20:14.31 | stew | SerajewelKS: yeah, i'm seeing the same thing here |
| 20:14.45 | SerajewelKS | stew: should i file a bug on that? (incomplete documentation) |
| 20:14.52 | cisse | pipeline: no |
| 20:14.56 | stew | SerajewelKS: yes, a wishlist bug |
| 20:15.07 | SerajewelKS | stew: not minor? |
| 20:15.15 | cisse | SerajewelKS: nat layer would drop the connection because the packet filter dropped the state, not ssh |
| 20:15.28 | SerajewelKS | stew: this is on stable, though |
| 20:15.36 | maximus | pipeline, No just like the look of the transparency. On my other box with nvidia I have both. Just messing around with stuff. same with dri I really do not need 3d support. No game playing |
| 20:15.41 | veleno | Greatred, here is my xorg.conf http://veleno.pastebin.com/522842 |
| 20:15.42 | SerajewelKS | cisse: but if sshd is sending TCP keepalives, wouldn't that keep the router happy? |
| 20:15.48 | stew | SerajewelKS: no, wishlist. /usr/share/doc/openssh-server/changelog.gz says: KeepAlive has been obsoleted, use TCPKeepAlive |
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| 20:15.57 | SerajewelKS | stew: ah |
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| 20:16.05 | dpkg | debconf: pre-depends on perl-base (>= 5.6.1-4) |
| 20:16.06 | pipeline | maximus: Uh, then why do you care? What a waste of time and effor.t |
| 20:16.10 | cisse | SerajewelKS: really depends on how the router is keeping state, but you're right it would probably be better than no communication |
| 20:16.21 | cisse | pipeline: they look pretty |
| 20:16.23 | Sander-nl_ | sorry I crashed (I'm on windows atm :P) but did someone answer my previous questions? |
| 20:16.31 | maximus | cisse, Yeah I tried older version of xorg still does not work with xcompmgr. |
| 20:16.34 | SerajewelKS | well either way i guess i'll turn on the encrypted channel keepalive so it's "real" tcp traffic |
| 20:16.47 | ClayG | How can i change the default monitor resolution for X but from CLI? |
| 20:16.50 | stew | sandman: debconf doesn't seem to depend on debconf-2.0 (see dpkg's last message), can you put the output of "apt-cache policy debconf" into a pastebin? |
| 20:16.55 | ClayG | I set the res too high and cannot access it now |
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| 20:17.30 | Greatred | veleno, sorry, i don't see a problem there either :( - good luck with this, though |
| 20:17.37 | maximus | pipeline, because I enjoy messing around learning trying to get things to work. I like to use open source and do testing to give back to the community. This is not life or death but not a waste of time either. |
| 20:17.59 | grendal_prime | well that all worked out well untell it got to the removing the other distro section. then it croaked |
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| 20:20.16 | abrotman | grendal_prime: fdisk works too! :) |
| 20:20.18 | cisse | maximus: i've always found the gentoo wiki useful on xcompmgr and transset, they have a section on ati closed and open source drivers, check it out |
| 20:21.06 | strider | maximus: you can compile the r300 snapshots if you want dri |
| 20:21.10 | grendal_prime | ya...but it leaves the system in an un bootable state. at this point its not possible to remotely reboot |
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| 20:21.31 | grendal_prime | its just.....well needs a monkey to hit the reset button |
| 20:21.37 | maximus | strider, I did and it did not work not sure if it supports my chipset r480 |
| 20:21.58 | _rene_ | strider: or just use 2.6.16-rc1 which claims to have the radeon stuff updates to dri CVS head |
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| 20:23.01 | ClayG | hey how do you reconfigure the supported resolutions for Xwindows but in the CLI? |
| 20:23.19 | grendal_prime | YO thingfish HOW THE HELL ARE YA?!! |
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| 20:23.27 | strider | _rene_: hmm, that seems interesting. Will give it a go |
| 20:23.35 | rudenstam | how do I kill someone that's logged in localy ? |
| 20:23.38 | thingfish | heh hey grendal_prime - pretty good, you? |
| 20:24.01 | cowbell | haha |
| 20:24.08 | _rene_ | OTOH, 2.6.26-rc1 doesn't boot here at all |
| 20:24.15 | grendal_prime | I JUST BOMED A SUSE INSTALL WITH debtakover AND IT DIDNT WORK AND NOW THE THING IS UNBOOTABLE...!!! |
| 20:24.17 | _rene_ | err |
| 20:24.19 | _rene_ | 2.6.16 |
| 20:24.20 | grendal_prime | so guess kinda bumed |
| 20:24.31 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 20:24.39 | cisse | damnit, whats the keystroke to unlock screen when you do ctrl-a s |
| 20:24.41 | _rene_ | grendal_prime: YOU DON'T NEED TO SCREAM |
| 20:24.58 | grendal_prime | but i think im getting the flu or something cause my stomac is bothering me something ferce. |
| 20:25.09 | _rene_ | grendal_prime: in any case, debtakeover is experimental anyway and AFAIS only was tested on older suses... |
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| 20:25.30 | grendal_prime | YES I DO THINGFISH IS HARD OF HEARING YOUR INCONSIDERATE FOR MAKING ME SAY SO |
| 20:25.31 | stew | cisse: ctrl-a q |
| 20:25.36 | grendal_prime | hahaha |
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| 20:26.09 | SerajewelKS | cisse: C-a s doesn't do anything for me O_o |
| 20:26.09 | cisse | stew: thanks, what does ctrl-a s do anyways ? |
| 20:26.21 | stew | cisse: xoff, aka scroll lock |
| 20:26.28 | cisse | ahhh ok |
| 20:26.46 | grendal_prime | so thingfish last time i talked to you ...you were still flying wernt ya? |
| 20:27.05 | thingfish | grendal_prime: oh sure. and I still do. |
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| 20:27.29 | grendal_prime | right on. My inst. checkride is on the 16th!! |
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| 20:27.33 | thingfish | it's the only reason I keep xp around. |
| 20:27.40 | thingfish | wow neat |
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| 20:28.13 | grendal_prime | ya i have a 200 box with flightsim2002 and vatsim. you ever use that setup ?? |
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| 20:28.36 | thingfish | grendal_prime: no, never used vatsim. |
| 20:28.53 | grendal_prime | totallly cool...controlers learning in a virtual enviro. voip radios...its so real i actually sweet somtimes |
| 20:28.53 | thingfish | grendal_prime: I used fs2002 for quite a while, though. |
| 20:28.57 | thingfish | neat |
| 20:29.22 | grendal_prime | anyway..i have over 6.5 actual now...wich is crazy |
| 20:29.36 | deadcat | anyone using postfix and sbc yahoo ISP? |
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| 20:29.54 | dvm1981 | Azar, stew : Really thankx for the subject you talking, viewing the log :-) i have eat a bit, im now back there |
| 20:30.29 | grendal_prime | its taking me over 9 months to do this...(we adopted two kids in the middle of that so it got kinda hectic and they were actually riding in the back for alot of my inst training) |
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| 20:30.47 | dvm1981 | Azar, stew : It's really not dramatical if i mess up my config of the laptop if it's for one reason, learn about it ... |
| 20:31.18 | thingfish | grendal_prime: now the kids are going to want to learn to fly. :) |
| 20:31.22 | dvm1981 | Azar, stew : So i really apreciate any help :-) really thankx to try to help :-) |
| 20:31.34 | Azar | dvm1981: you are welcome |
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| 20:32.21 | grendal_prime | are you kidding the whine inssesantly because they are in daycar now when i take my lessons...not to mention their godfather is my flight instructor |
| 20:32.29 | stew | dvm1981: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 20:32.34 | abrotman | grendal_prime: did you try debootstrap ? |
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| 20:32.45 | grendal_prime | ya it sucked |
| 20:33.07 | dvm1981 | stew : I do an ssh connection to it, and say you, i get the ip of it ... |
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| 20:33.18 | Azar | deadcat, I am not using postfix, but yes, yahoo mail is bloated with stupid configurations |
| 20:33.25 | n1c022 | Guys how where should i start trouble shooting my mouse if mdetect finds nothing but my kernel detects the device fine... |
| 20:33.32 | grendal_prime | well debootstrap is what the debtakover uses...debtakover is a script basically that uses debootstrap |
| 20:34.02 | veleno | Greatred, trying to reinstall the driver, i got an error message: http://veleno.pastebin.com/522863 does it give any idea about a possible solution? |
| 20:34.16 | dvm1981 | Permission denied (publickey). |
| 20:34.16 | dvm1981 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.21 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: i am, actually |
| 20:34.27 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: postfix + courier |
| 20:34.37 | Jcon | can anyone help me rebuild my netinst iso with libata support? |
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| 20:34.49 | dvm1981 | stew: 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 20:34.55 | alys | I'm taking delivery of an AMD64 system, without operating system. Is there now a Debian Sarge version for it? Thanks. |
| 20:34.55 | stew | dvm1981: make sure ~.ssh is chmod 700 and .ssh/authorized_keys is chmod 600 and they both have correct ownership |
| 20:34.58 | Greatred | veleno, nope... i get that sort of error a lot when installing |
| 20:34.59 | stew | dvm1981: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
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| 20:35.34 | Greatred | veleno, of course... in my time of fiddling with my system, i may have "fixed" a few things that i can't remember |
| 20:35.37 | SerajewelKS | !wayttd deadcat |
| 20:35.37 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, deadcat? |
| 20:35.49 | loxley | alys: unofficial yes |
| 20:35.52 | grendal_prime | by the way i think it was abrotman that helped me out some time back with my spam filter build. i wanted to thank you for that im putting them in at all 4 offices. it is chopping down the spam from 1000 to 100 over a 4 day period and that is whitout the bayes training |
| 20:35.55 | dvm1981 | stew : Great, dpkg, talking with it :-) a window with him are here open, i talk with the bot :-) |
| 20:36.16 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: so i can send my mails out. fucking sbc is bitching at me. |
| 20:36.20 | grendal_prime | training gets it down to about 4 |
| 20:36.24 | Prax01D | Is there some way to get xargs to strip leading spaces from the files it gets in STDIN? |
| 20:36.28 | alys | loxley: thanks - will it run 'just right' or should I expect some problems? |
| 20:36.32 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: yes they block outbound 25 by default |
| 20:36.33 | dondelelcaro | Prax01D: use sed |
| 20:36.41 | grendal_prime | i think stew helped out as well...ither of you got an ugly sister you want married off?? |
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| 20:36.52 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: go to the sbc yahoo! dsl abuse report page (google can help there) and file a complaint about "** port 25 opt-out" |
| 20:36.53 | cisse | Prax01D: what are you trying to do ? |
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| 20:37.07 | grendal_prime | cause i got a brother who needs a wife...and well...i owe you guys one |
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| 20:37.10 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: ya. thats why i have to use the freakin sasl stuff to authenticate myself.. but that dont work |
| 20:37.14 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: after you get a confirmation email, reboot your modem |
| 20:37.15 | dondelelcaro | Prax01D: but it sounds like you really should be using find with -print0 and xargs -0. |
| 20:37.24 | Prax01D | cisse: just feed filenames out of bzip2 -tv output... |
| 20:37.27 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: oh |
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| 20:37.35 | dvm1981 | stew: The ssh i have not set it up, that's the next on, but you are here, info are logged :-) |
| 20:37.36 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: then port 25 is wide open =) |
| 20:37.39 | watchdog19 | Hi all, I'm running testing and experiencing problems with the gs-esp package... Anyone in the same case ? |
| 20:37.42 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: (= |
| 20:37.46 | Prax01D | dondelelcaro: Doesn't strip leading spaces. |
| 20:37.52 | dondelelcaro | Prax01D: then sed -e 's/^\s*//'|xargs ... |
| 20:37.55 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: works wonders, plus it lets SPF do its job |
| 20:37.58 | abrotman | watchdog19: did you check the BTS ? |
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| 20:38.07 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: spf? |
| 20:38.09 | stew | dvm1981: in the future, using "ssh-copy-id user@remotehost" is easier than copying keys by hand |
| 20:38.11 | Prax01D | dondelelcaro: ya. An extra step. I was hoping to pare it down. |
| 20:38.28 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: openspf.org -- lets a service specify what machines can send mail from a domain in a TXT record |
| 20:38.31 | watchdog19 | abrotman, no, sorry |
| 20:38.38 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: o |
| 20:38.41 | dondelelcaro | Prax01D: *shrug*; it's not like sed is all that big a step |
| 20:38.49 | watchdog19 | abrotman, packages.debian.org is currently down... |
| 20:38.59 | abrotman | bugs.debian.org/<packagename> |
| 20:39.06 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: e.g. "foobar.com. IN TXT v=spf1 mx ~all" means that only the server listed as the foobar.com MX can send mail from foobar.com |
| 20:39.24 | shwag | how do I edit the sudoers file? |
| 20:39.25 | dvm1981 | stew : Interesting in the subject. But understanding is anothe thing, i not know the command. |
| 20:39.32 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: forwarding/relays are also considered, so if you were to forward mail through SBC's server you need to list their netblock too |
| 20:39.33 | loxley | alys: i tested it today on a sunfire x2100, worked nice.. but i needed to get 2 sata disks raided and didnt get that to work, but that's me not knowing how to proceed in that matter :) |
| 20:39.37 | dondelelcaro | SHS`: with visudo or similar |
| 20:39.42 | grendal_prime | i think security.debian is down now as well im hanging on this other install |
| 20:39.55 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: and then of course anyone on SBC has permission (according to SPF) to send mail from foobar.com. that's why i opened 25. |
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| 20:40.13 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: not that some MXs will reject mail from dial-ups (mainly euro/middle-east) |
| 20:40.14 | Prax01D | dondelelcaro: Seems to me it would be natural for xargs to have that capability. |
| 20:40.22 | ronove | where is the GRUB.conf file located on a sarge system with 2.6.12 kernel? |
| 20:40.24 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: i only send stuff out. i dont recieve anything. |
| 20:40.38 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: yeah, that's what SPF is for |
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| 20:40.46 | festr_ | hello |
| 20:40.54 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: specifying who can send mail from a domain. sort of like domainkeys, only less flexible. |
| 20:40.55 | dvm1981 | festr_: hello |
| 20:41.01 | thingfish | ronove: no grub.conf. look for /boot/grub/menu.1st |
| 20:41.03 | festr_ | i've problem with sarge. apt-get install perl-suid |
| 20:41.07 | festr_ | problems with dependencies |
| 20:41.21 | stew | festr_: /msg dpkg bat |
| 20:41.29 | festr_ | i think, the package is broken |
| 20:41.33 | ronove | thingfish: oh, ok.. thanks :) |
| 20:41.47 | festr_ | because its dependencies doesnt exist |
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| 20:42.02 | festr_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.02 | dondelelcaro | Prax01D: no, that'd be against the unix philosophy... small tools that do one thing and do it well. |
| 20:42.32 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: thanks. (= |
| 20:42.55 | dondelelcaro | Prax01D: xargs takes a list of things and appends them to argv. That's it; it doesn't to processing of the items in the list beyond figuring out how to separate them |
| 20:42.57 | festr_ | stew: is this information complete? (i saw dpkg bat) |
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| 20:43.10 | stew | !tell festr_ about bat |
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| 20:43.36 | dondelelcaro | festr_: yes, which is why you also need to install the perl-suid version that depends on 5.8.4-8sarge3 |
| 20:43.41 | Azar | hmm why can't I exit tail /var/log/messages screen? |
| 20:44.08 | festr_ | dondelelcaro: but this versin doesnt exist |
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| 20:44.18 | Azar | stew, why did I got locked in that ? |
| 20:44.19 | dondelelcaro | festr_: sure it does |
| 20:44.26 | dondelelcaro | festr_: pool/updates/main/p/perl/perl-suid_5.8.4-8sarge3_i386.deb |
| 20:44.28 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: do i need any settings after that? like relay host in the main.cf file. and the sasl_passwd files? |
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| 20:44.42 | watchdog19 | abrotman, nothing related in the BTS... |
| 20:44.48 | Azar | hel 0 discuss.. |
| 20:44.50 | Azar | :) |
| 20:44.51 | toto | hi all, one of my linux partition get erased ( just the partitions header I guess ie less than 1sec ) - i tried testdisk - it found the partition but i got a msg like paartition to big for the hdd |
| 20:44.52 | festr_ | dondelelcaro: if deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main is official repositories |
| 20:44.59 | watchdog19 | anywhere I could explain my problem w/o annoying ? ;-) |
| 20:45.02 | cusco | hi... anyon ehere using vsftpd?? when I login to my home I can't see hidden folders nor files tarting with a . |
| 20:45.06 | dondelelcaro | festr_: it's a security release, it's not on ftp.debian.org. |
| 20:45.07 | abrotman | watchdog19: here |
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| 20:45.25 | cusco | I mean |
| 20:45.26 | festr_ | dondelelcaro: aha? |
| 20:45.27 | toto | is there any software to scan this range to get the file |
| 20:45.31 | dondelelcaro | festr_: in any case, unless you have an explicit reason to have perl-suid installed, you don't want it. |
| 20:45.35 | cusco | those files can bee seen |
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| 20:45.43 | Azar | anyone? |
| 20:45.45 | cusco | but not with internet explorer built in ftp client |
| 20:45.46 | festr_ | dondelelcaro: i have exlplicit reason |
| 20:45.59 | watchdog19 | ok, I have version 8.15.1.dfsg.1-1 of gs-esp, used in combination with cups to print to a Lexmark z600... |
| 20:46.10 | dondelelcaro | festr_: then get it from security.debian.org |
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| 20:46.18 | toto | the filesystem was ext3 |
| 20:46.21 | festr_ | dondelelcaro: anyway, thank you very much |
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| 20:46.37 | watchdog19 | The printer used to work fine but now, after an 'apt-get upgrade', I think, I no longer works... |
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| 20:46.44 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: if you disable the port 25 block you don't need to relay at all |
| 20:46.44 | Azar | tail -f /var/log/messages << why it locks me there |
| 20:46.59 | mrverbos1 | anyone familiar with those external iomega zip 100 drives for the parallel port? |
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| 20:47.01 | stew | Azar: ctrl-c doesn't work? |
| 20:47.09 | Azar | stew, thanks :) |
| 20:47.10 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: no. i mean relay=the.freakin.sbc.yahoo.smtp.shit ? |
| 20:47.13 | SerajewelKS | mrverbos1: i have one, do you have a question or are you taking a poll? |
| 20:47.25 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: yeah you don't need those if you disable the port 25 block |
| 20:47.34 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: your server will be able to resolve the MX and send the mail directly there |
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| 20:47.52 | watchdog19 | and the reason I'm charging it to gs-esp is that I've tried to print something, cups does not report anything wrong and gs-esp has been taking 99% of my CPU... |
| 20:47.56 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: oh ya. can i add things like NOREPLY to an email address for all users? like deadcat@blah.com becomes deadcat-NOREPLY@blah.com |
| 20:47.58 | watchdog19 | for some time already |
| 20:48.08 | mrverbos1 | soulreaper: the earlier one. i want to know which parallel port protocol is best for such drives, either ECP oder EPP |
| 20:48.09 | watchdog19 | - end of speech - |
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| 20:48.16 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: possibly.. i haven't looked into how postfix does address rewriting |
| 20:48.22 | deadcat | k |
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| 20:48.36 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: because since no one can email back to me. my router blocks 25 |
| 20:48.39 | mrverbos1 | SerajewelKS: the earlier one. i want to know which parallel |
| 20:48.41 | mrverbos1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:49.01 | SerajewelKS | mrverbos1: oh, i don't know. i plug the thing in and it works. =) |
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| 20:49.08 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: fix your router then =P |
| 20:49.17 | mrverbos1 | and what mode do you use? |
| 20:49.18 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: i dont want shits IN (=. only out. |
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| 20:49.30 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: i have a fully-functioning MX running three domains on SBC |
| 20:49.34 | watchdog19 | anyone can help ? |
| 20:49.35 | goron | Did anyone here read the book "Writing secure code", 2nd edition? It seems very Windows oriented. I'd rather read a book which is OS neutral. Any suggestions? |
| 20:49.36 | SerajewelKS | mrverbos1: *shrug* |
| 20:49.42 | SerajewelKS | mrverbos1: whatever is the default i suppose |
| 20:49.57 | SerajewelKS | anyway, i have class. later all. |
| 20:50.08 | mrverbos1 | SerajewelKS: do a cat /proc/dma for me please |
| 20:50.12 | toto | got a pb with an ext3 partition .. tested unsuccesfully testdisk ' is there a software to scan 4 files on a space range and not partition ? |
| 20:50.18 | SerajewelKS | mrverbos1: it's not plugged in right now |
| 20:50.26 | mrverbos1 | that doesnt matter |
| 20:50.35 | ^Chance-- | any ideea how can i reenable the oss modules in debian or how can i check if it is disabled or not |
| 20:50.39 | SerajewelKS | mrverbos1: 4: cascade |
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| 20:50.51 | mrverbos1 | ok you either use standard or epp |
| 20:50.57 | SerajewelKS | mrverbos1: ok |
| 20:51.01 | mrverbos1 | i use ecp, which seems to be rather slow |
| 20:51.09 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: btw it's kinda rude to use a from: address that you can't reply to =/ |
| 20:51.16 | mrverbos1 | wait a second, i'm gonna kick the bastard, that stole my nickname |
| 20:51.18 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: at least set up incoming for replies ;) |
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| 20:51.24 | sandman | Why is it unwise to use only one filesystem with a mailserver? |
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| 20:51.34 | sancho___ | what package provides errno.h? |
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| 20:51.44 | SerajewelKS | !find /errno.h |
| 20:51.49 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: hehe. its for my website. when someone reg an account it emails them. and i use it to email myself a copy of my dpkg --get-selections onces a week (= |
| 20:51.53 | streuner | sancho___: /msg dpkg search |
| 20:51.57 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: ah |
| 20:51.58 | pipeline | sancho___: Probably build-essential ... |
| 20:52.02 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/errno.h' (6 of 35): (/usr/share/cmix/shadow/errno.h) in devel/cmix ;; (/usr/avr/include/errno.h) in otherosfs/avr-libc ;; (/usr/include/diet/errno.h) in libdevel/dietlibc-dev ;; (/usr/include/wine/msvcrt/errno.h) in libdevel/libwine-dev ;; (/usr/include/stlport/errno.h) in libdevel/libstlport5-dev ;; (/usr/arm-palmos/include/errno.h) in otherosfs/prc-tools-arm. |
| 20:52.04 | ^Chance-- | Anyone that can help me ? How can i re-enable the oss modules in debian or how can i check if it is disabled or not |
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| 20:52.17 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: ^^^ |
| 20:52.19 | blondie | debian is all oss! |
| 20:52.27 | streuner | heh |
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| 20:52.32 | SerajewelKS | !find /include/errno.h |
| 20:52.39 | Azar | goron: I only read about "how to write unmaintainable code" |
| 20:52.42 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/include/errno.h' (6 of 13): (/usr/include/errno.h) in libdevel/libc6-dev ;; (/usr/share/cscc/include/errno.h) in devel/pnetc ;; (/usr/avr/include/errno.h) in otherosfs/avr-libc ;; (/usr/lib/bcc/include/errno.h) in devel/elks-libc ;; (/usr/m68hc11/include/errno.h) in devel/newlib-m68hc1x ;; (/usr/lib/klibc/include/errno.h) in libdevel/libklibc-dev. |
| 20:52.49 | ^Chance-- | Ok then explain why when i do host address i getd 10.0.0.90 connect: No buffer space available ? |
| 20:52.50 | SerajewelKS | sancho___: libc6-deb |
| 20:52.52 | SerajewelKS | -dev* |
| 20:52.55 | streuner | ^Chance--: load the module for your soundcard? |
| 20:52.57 | deadcat | please /msg dpkg find |
| 20:53.13 | ^Chance-- | and if i do other things i get same thing ? |
| 20:53.14 | newbie2debian | worthy |
| 20:53.14 | streuner | ^Chance--: what kernel do you use? |
| 20:53.24 | sancho___ | SerajewelKS: thx |
| 20:53.24 | cic- | Hi, not knowing what I was doing I accidentally mounted my windows ntfs partition with all permissions and I guess it corrupted my ntfs filesysystem. I can still access the paritions within linux so everything is there but not accessible outside of linux. Is there anyways to fix this? |
| 20:53.26 | streuner | ^Chance--: cat /proc/version |
| 20:53.28 | goron | Azar: could you elaborate(/msg)? |
| 20:53.31 | ^Chance-- | streuner 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 20:53.39 | Azar | goron, was a joke, sorry |
| 20:53.42 | SerajewelKS | cic-: run ntfsfix on it and try booting windows |
| 20:53.50 | streuner | ^Chance--: have you ever tried ALSA? |
| 20:53.56 | SerajewelKS | cic-: if that doesn't work, tar it up, format, reinstall windows, and untar from windows |
| 20:54.01 | ^Chance-- | streuner Linux version 2.6.8-2-686 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Tue Aug 16 13:22:48 UTC 2005 <-output |
| 20:54.04 | goron | Azar: I assumed you read the book and thought it was nothing. |
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| 20:54.15 | ^Chance-- | streuner no i don't know what that is |
| 20:54.20 | goron | Azar: But you didn't read the book and just made a random joke, right? |
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| 20:54.29 | SerajewelKS | cic-: if that doesn't work.. you know why ntfs sucks =) |
| 20:54.32 | streuner | ^Chance--: almost the same like OSS |
| 20:54.35 | cic- | SerajewelKS: ok sounds good. thanks |
| 20:54.56 | Azar | goron, no there is a website about how to write unmaintainable code... fun stuff ofcourse |
| 20:55.14 | ^Chance-- | streuner ok, but regarding to my issue what exacly causes that ? what do i have to fix it ? |
| 20:55.16 | goron | Azar: thedailywtf, you mean? |
| 20:55.21 | streuner | ^Chance--: just run 'alsaconf' as root, make sure you have alsa-utils installed and you don't have any OSS modules in your RAM |
| 20:55.26 | Azar | goron, yes :) |
| 20:55.53 | Azar | goron, you could find what you need at osix.net try ask there |
| 20:55.54 | ^Chance-- | streuner how can i be sure about OSS ? |
| 20:56.14 | goron | Azar: you mean at IRC, or a forum? |
| 20:56.21 | Kurtism | the unscrupulous business plan of South Park's Underpants Gnomes: |
| 20:56.21 | Kurtism | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.22 | Kurtism | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.22 | Kurtism | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:56.26 | streuner | ^Chance--: Do you know what OSS is at all? |
| 20:56.34 | streuner | !oss |
| 20:56.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, oss is an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.6 info).. OldSchoolSound |
| 20:56.36 | Azar | goron, website , forum and irc www.osix.net |
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| 20:57.02 | streuner | ^Chance--: 'lsmod' and search for the soundmodule |
| 20:57.03 | goron | Azar: ok, I don't know whether that helps me a lot, but thanks. |
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| 20:57.10 | watchdog19 | Does anyone know about a printing-oriented debian chan ? |
| 20:57.14 | bushito | "configure: error: Library requirements (xcomposite xfixes xdamage xrender) not met;" can anyone help me please =)? |
| 20:57.26 | streuner | watchdog19: just ask here |
| 20:57.43 | ^Chance-- | streuner i don't need sound module |
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| 20:58.03 | streuner | ^Chance--: so why did you mention OSS at all? |
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| 20:58.46 | newbie2debian | . |
| 20:58.52 | ^Chance-- | because i have been told that it might be my issue regarding to connect: No buffer space available |
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| 20:59.15 | streuner | ^Chance--: _HOW_ did you see that? |
| 20:59.17 | goron | Azar: I can't find their irc URL. |
| 20:59.30 | streuner | ^Chance--: from the logs, its a command etc etc |
| 20:59.33 | Azar | goron pm |
| 20:59.39 | ^Chance-- | streuner host address gives me that sendmail logs shows me that |
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| 20:59.54 | ^Chance-- | and so might others |
| 21:00.03 | streuner | ^Chance--: oh, so you setting up a mail-server? |
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| 21:00.22 | ^Chance-- | i did not receved in there first time i receved it into the bind thing |
| 21:00.23 | watchdog19 | streuner, I've just been asking... (see above) |
| 21:00.28 | ^Chance-- | my bind servers reports me that |
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| 21:00.52 | ^Chance-- | then today i installed sendmail and gaved me same issue |
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| 21:02.06 | Lord_Athur | hi all |
| 21:02.06 | debiankid | hi room im having a big trouble here on my network routing table may i ask for some help here? |
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| 21:02.16 | streuner | watchdog19: what does the log say about? |
| 21:02.21 | ^Chance-- | streuner any ideea ? |
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| 21:02.37 | Azar | deadcat: ask? |
| 21:02.38 | deadcat | deepspace: man 5 interfaces |
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| 21:02.44 | Azar | err sorry deadcat |
| 21:02.47 | deadcat | (= |
| 21:02.52 | watchdog19 | streuner, cups' log ? It does not notice anything wrong... |
| 21:02.55 | ansong | do any other kde users (unstable) have a problem launching krusader ? |
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| 21:04.03 | michael | how can I increase the refresh rate of my display? |
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| 21:04.34 | deadcat | michael: buy a better mon |
| 21:04.52 | chealer | ansong: ask #debian-kde |
| 21:04.54 | streuner | watchdog19: how did you setup the printer anyway? |
| 21:05.01 | melao- | I'm using cups, and I'd like to apply page quotas by users... how could I do that? |
| 21:05.04 | ansong | chealer, thx |
| 21:05.06 | chealer | !drxx michael |
| 21:05.06 | dpkg | michael: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 21:05.14 | michael | deadcat: it's a iiyama that can easily do 100Hz @ 1280x1024 but I'm currently only at 85Hz |
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| 21:05.46 | deadcat | michael: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-x(org|free86) yet? |
| 21:05.51 | melao- | is there any print quotas manager in sarge? |
| 21:06.03 | starfishy | why would you want to increase your refresh rate to 100 hz? |
| 21:06.06 | michael | deadcat: not yet, guess that's what I'm gonna do. thanks |
| 21:06.30 | deadcat | i have a samsung ml2010 printer, i want to make it print linux to linux, but the driver is not from the cups setup. i have to use the cd. and the program in the cd doesnt let me select ipp:// what do i do? |
| 21:06.42 | G2 | anyone know if you can read your cpu fans speed outwith the bios? |
| 21:06.59 | starfishy | if your bios supports it: yes |
| 21:07.12 | starfishy | iow, depends on your bios |
| 21:07.16 | streuner | G2: lm-sensors |
| 21:07.23 | G2 | what tool can I check wiht? |
| 21:07.29 | streuner | gkrellm |
| 21:07.31 | watchdog19 | streuner, it is an USB printer, and i use its Lexmark drivers |
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| 21:07.40 | streuner | oh fun :-) |
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| 21:07.58 | streuner | and you asking here why it doesn't work anymore? ... |
| 21:08.24 | streuner | watchdog19: just setup it again |
| 21:08.25 | watchdog19 | streuner, it used to work fine before... I think some new version of some package messes it up, nothing related to config files... |
| 21:08.56 | Azar | I can't pass this Debian System Administration is filled with great HOWTO tips for newbies like me: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/sys-admin/index.html |
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| 21:09.16 | watchdog19 | streuner, okay... That's exactly what I did not want to do as long as I haven't identified the source of the problem... |
| 21:09.47 | streuner | well, you upgraded the whole system and asking why something not work? |
| 21:09.58 | Azar | streuner, my gkrellm gives me an alsa error everytime I start it |
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| 21:10.44 | Azar | "can't open Alsa monitoring" |
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| 21:10.52 | G2 | thanks streuner |
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| 21:11.05 | rambo3 | gnome is the king of desktops |
| 21:11.07 | streuner | Azar: well, is ALSA running at all on your system? |
| 21:11.15 | newbie2debian | . |
| 21:11.16 | Azar | streuner, yes |
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| 21:11.25 | Azar | using xmms and works ok |
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| 21:11.43 | robin_z | OK, so ... where should I begin to look to try and make exim actually work then? |
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| 21:12.03 | Azar | I should look for an "Alsa lib" console error message but I do not know where |
| 21:12.22 | robin_z | I do echo "this is a test" | xmail -s "test mail" foo@bar.com |
| 21:12.23 | Azar | hmm maybe gkrellm does not have rights to sound? |
| 21:12.26 | robin_z | and nothing happens |
| 21:12.34 | streuner | Azar: nah |
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| 21:12.53 | wye | is the prism nitro chip suported by linux? |
| 21:13.00 | streuner | Azar: if your soundsystem working gkrellm would be glad then... |
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| 21:13.28 | Azar | :) well maybe I should not need xmms command panel in gkrellm |
| 21:13.50 | streuner | Azar: cat /proc/version |
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| 21:13.54 | Azar | k |
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| 21:14.28 | Azar | Linux version 2.6.8-2-k7 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Tue Aug 16 14:00:15 UTC 2005 |
| 21:15.06 | streuner | Azar: and you use the modules of the kernel itself? |
| 21:15.08 | michael | deadcat: I did the dpkg reconf but refresh rate is still at 85Hz |
| 21:15.13 | streuner | Azar: (ALSA) |
| 21:15.31 | Azar | streuner: hmmmm not sure what you exactly are asking |
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| 21:15.52 | streuner | Azar: you didn't compile ALSA ? |
| 21:16.04 | Azar | streuner, this machine had woody > sarge > kernel upgrade 2.6.8 > manual alsa install |
| 21:16.22 | Azar | streuner alsa one liner from dpkg |
| 21:16.23 | robin_z | I do echo "this is a test" | xmail -s "test mail" foo@bar.com |
| 21:16.30 | robin_z | and nothing happens ... |
| 21:16.41 | streuner | Azar: ok, just remove the ALSA stuff, and run alsaconf |
| 21:16.43 | robin_z | this is a stock sarge install. |
| 21:17.07 | Azar | streuner remove ALSA from gkrellm? |
| 21:17.14 | streuner | Azar: nah |
| 21:17.29 | Azar | apt-get remove purge alsa ? |
| 21:17.46 | Ungy | Azar -purge |
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| 21:17.59 | streuner | Azar: everything you installed via 'alsa2.4 one-liner' |
| 21:18.05 | Azar | yes I am trying to assimilate |
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| 21:18.12 | Azar | damn that sounds bad, streuner |
| 21:18.26 | Azar | I mean I have no idea what it came there no more |
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| 21:18.34 | streuner | Azar: dpkg -l | grep alsa |
| 21:18.35 | Azar | files scattered all over, tools |
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| 21:18.48 | comex | I'm trying to get fontconfig to recognize Terminus... I have both the debian package and a source version, and fc-cached, and there is a fonts.cache-1 that seems to have Terminus in it |
| 21:18.59 | comex | but, it's nowhere in fc-list (or GIMP) |
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| 21:19.27 | Azar | sigh ok |
| 21:19.32 | Azar | those two then |
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| 21:19.51 | Azar | streuner: remove AND -purge? |
| 21:20.02 | streuner | Azar: yes |
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| 21:20.11 | streuner | get rid of it |
| 21:20.14 | d4t2ilL4 | Hi guys, |
| 21:20.14 | aybe | *hello |
| 21:20.29 | aybe | can anyone give me some help please ? |
| 21:21.05 | d4t2ilL4 | yes help me |
| 21:21.12 | robin_z | sigh ... qmail was so much easier ... |
| 21:21.27 | Azar | streuner ok done |
| 21:21.33 | Azar | how do I install it back now? |
| 21:21.43 | d4t2ilL4 | I need to restart smbd, what is the call command to do so?\ |
| 21:21.50 | streuner | Azar: apt-get install alsa-utils |
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| 21:21.58 | Azar | mbotev I am busy please get out of my pm |
| 21:22.02 | G2 | streuner: lm_sensors rules. Thanks!!! |
| 21:22.02 | gameover | . |
| 21:22.11 | mae | what words come to your mind when you think "easy to setup vpn with ssl" |
| 21:22.17 | streuner | Azar: run 'alsaconf' as root |
| 21:22.19 | abrotman | d4t2ilL4: /etc/init.d/smb restart ? |
| 21:22.27 | abrotman | d4t2ilL4: and go to #knoppix |
| 21:22.30 | abrotman | fucking loser |
| 21:22.37 | Azar | k |
| 21:22.43 | kspath | gameover man gameover |
| 21:23.19 | gameover | im trying to find myself a nick |
| 21:24.01 | kspath | runick|aminick ? |
| 21:24.06 | streuner | gameover: usually in IRC most people use animal names |
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| 21:24.11 | Azar | hmm I forgot, streuner should I modivy /etc/modprobe.d/sound ? in alsaconf.. |
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| 21:24.22 | jmg | hey all |
| 21:24.29 | gameover | lol |
| 21:24.31 | streuner | gameover: but there are scientific names like 'Zardoz, Zed' too.... |
| 21:24.36 | jmg | can anyone tell me the procedure for making a fake debian package? |
| 21:24.41 | abrotman | !equivs |
| 21:24.42 | dpkg | somebody said equivs was a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell apt you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt-get install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, or see also "usrlocal" |
| 21:24.48 | streuner | Azar: no, alsaconf do that for you |
| 21:25.00 | kspath | math names like zero pi nullset |
| 21:25.04 | Azar | well I guess is done, relogging in |
| 21:25.08 | G2 | what sort of temp is ok for a AMD 2000XP (old I know)? Mine is at 34.3 C |
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| 21:25.21 | streuner | G2: its ok |
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| 21:25.37 | robin_z | sigh ... R=nonlocal: Mailing to remote domains not supported |
| 21:25.44 | robin_z | how useful is THAT |
| 21:25.51 | zinx | G2: that's fine if it's really that temperature |
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| 21:25.59 | G2 | I just got a ThermalTake 12 for it and I am trying to make it quiet ;-) Running at 3500rpm |
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| 21:26.06 | zinx | G2: try to keep it below 50C and all's well (50C is hot, better to keep it 40C or below) |
| 21:26.08 | streuner | G2: sounds rather like your mobo |
| 21:26.25 | kspath | robin_z: if you increment clue it makes so much more sense. /me runs and hides |
| 21:26.27 | G2 | k zinx |
| 21:26.28 | x-x- | http://www.nokia.com/770 is this worth 360 euro? :D |
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| 21:26.34 | G2 | streuner: say again? |
| 21:26.43 | pipeline | x-x-: Heh, those things are sexy as hell, but maybe not 360 euro sexy :P |
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| 21:26.50 | robin_z | kspath: you can run ... |
| 21:26.51 | streuner | G2: that's your motherboard not your CPU |
| 21:26.54 | pipeline | x-x-: Then again, given the cost of palmtops these days, maybe 360 isn't as bad as it sounds ;_; |
| 21:26.57 | robin_z | kspath: but you cant' hide |
| 21:27.03 | x-x- | yea |
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| 21:27.30 | G2 | streuner: It says CPU temp and SYS temp |
| 21:27.41 | zinx | G2: it's best to check in the BIOS, by the way |
| 21:27.46 | zinx | lm-sensors gets it wrong sometimes |
| 21:27.50 | x-x- | pipeline: the fact it runs a debian variant makes it irresistable :D |
| 21:28.43 | G2 | zinx: DOn't want to reboot ;-) |
| 21:28.44 | zinx | so you'll have to manually adjust |
| 21:28.44 | kspath | robin_z: where chasing/chasers is not zero continue running |
| 21:28.44 | streuner | G2: just try 'mbmon' too... |
| 21:28.44 | zinx | G2: well, you only have to make sure it's right the ones |
| 21:28.44 | zinx | erh, once |
| 21:28.44 | x-x- | too bad it has a slow CPU compared to Dell and HP's |
| 21:28.44 | streuner | !info mbmon |
| 21:28.44 | G2 | zinx: Got one of those POTs for the temp hanging out a PIC slot |
| 21:28.44 | dpkg | mbmon: (Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (text client)), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.05-4 (sid), Packaged size: 66 kB, Installed size: 140 kB |
| 21:28.44 | toto | does anyone know a tool to recover file from a parttion exept testdisk |
| 21:28.44 | robin_z | kspath: only the fearful run |
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| 21:28.45 | G2 | cool streuner |
| 21:28.45 | zinx | G2: heh |
| 21:28.45 | G2 | do these work on servers too? |
| 21:28.56 | G2 | just a desktop here |
| 21:29.00 | kspath | robin_z: no. invalid and/or incorrect statement. |
| 21:29.11 | streuner | yes, as long as your mobo support temp sensors there |
| 21:29.27 | G2 | zinx: Got loads of "ALARM" - drifting voltages etc. |
| 21:29.29 | michael | how do I increase the refresh rate to 100Hz? I did !dixx |
| 21:29.34 | toto | (header off the partition overwritten and not reconize by testdisk |
| 21:30.00 | G2 | CPU core is 1.90v, says min should be 2.00 |
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| 21:31.07 | goron | How can I see what program is using a certain port? |
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| 21:31.17 | pureone | as root netstat -tupln |
| 21:31.20 | kspath | robin_z: among other valid reasons to run: exercise and leading those following into traps (See great Khan and Huns and others) |
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| 21:31.25 | pureone | or netstat -tupn |
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| 21:32.52 | mattwestm | what is the latest release of debian? |
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| 21:32.59 | king_crimson | hello |
| 21:33.05 | streuner | matteo: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 21:33.11 | streuner | mattwestm: /msg dpkg sid faq |
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| 21:33.24 | Azar | well streuner, I had to reboot |
| 21:33.27 | king_crimson | is there any way i can disable monitor blanking/shut off after being idle on the console for a few minutes?? |
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| 21:33.29 | stew | mattwestm: http://debian.org/releases |
| 21:33.30 | king_crimson | its really annoying |
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| 21:33.39 | king_crimson | not using x-windows |
| 21:33.41 | stew | king_crimson: /msg dpkg screen blanking |
| 21:33.41 | king_crimson | just the console |
| 21:33.43 | Azar | gkrellm freezes when I try using xmms from its panel |
| 21:33.55 | netcrusher88 | what packages are needed to get fonts working in x-mode emacs? |
| 21:33.58 | netcrusher88 | it shows boxes |
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| 21:34.09 | Azar | so I had to remove xmms from plugins now everything works nice |
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| 21:34.24 | streuner | Azar: run gkrellm on cli and tell us the output (do not paste here) |
| 21:34.30 | goron | netcrusher88: #emacs |
| 21:34.38 | abrotman | king_crimson: Option "DPMS" "Off" |
| 21:34.41 | abrotman | !dpms |
| 21:34.42 | dpkg | rumour has it, dpms is know as VESA Power Saving or Energy Star. In X4.0.X add Option "DPMS" "on" to config monitor setting. After that it can be configured by using 'xset dpms <standby-sec> <suspend-sec> <off-sec>' or config file options (ServerFlag section). |
| 21:34.44 | netcrusher88 | no, actually #debian |
| 21:34.51 | abrotman | actually .. fix your locale |
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| 21:34.55 | netcrusher88 | oh |
| 21:35.00 | netcrusher88 | how do i do that? |
| 21:35.03 | netcrusher88 | localegen? |
| 21:35.09 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 21:35.18 | netcrusher88 | thank you abrotman |
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| 21:35.31 | abrotman | silly kids from RIT :) |
| 21:35.33 | lukas_ | how can i ask the shell for the next letter in the alphabeth? lets say i need a loop with letters |
| 21:36.00 | king_crimson | sweet i got it fixed |
| 21:36.02 | king_crimson | thanks |
| 21:36.18 | king_crimson | i think i fixed it anyway... i did setterm -blank 0 |
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| 21:37.15 | rambo3 | anyone with this http://www.bootsplash.org/ installed on their system? |
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| 21:37.49 | robin_z | sigh ... OK, so what do I have to do to persuade exim to deliver to remote MTAs? |
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| 21:38.19 | Azar | streuner where do you want it? |
| 21:38.31 | blondie | on the kitchen floor |
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| 21:38.35 | Azar | :) |
| 21:38.48 | Azar | blondie, I like bad girls like you |
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| 21:39.00 | streuner | Azar: if your gkrellm runs without xmms-plugin just leave it alone... ;-) |
| 21:39.01 | blondie | Azar: do you |
| 21:39.13 | streuner | o_O |
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| 21:39.24 | Azar | streuner: there is an error message though, just for info if you want it |
| 21:39.40 | streuner | !paster |
| 21:39.41 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 21:39.48 | Azar | ok |
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| 21:40.50 | djp | what is a popular irc client? i have been using irssi-text. currently giving gaim a go... |
| 21:40.53 | netcrusher88 | dpkg-reconfigure locales didn't help |
| 21:40.55 | mentor | xchat |
| 21:41.08 | Zerial | djace, xchat, bitchx, irssi |
| 21:41.08 | abrotman | netcrusher88: you have to logout of X to try it |
| 21:41.09 | tyranix | djp: I haven't found anything better than irssi. |
| 21:41.15 | netcrusher88 | kk |
| 21:41.17 | mentor | djp: Remember to bitch slap the guy who stole the GPL code |
| 21:41.24 | abrotman | once an app starts .. it retains its locale |
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| 21:41.30 | tyranix | mentor: ? |
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| 21:41.46 | Azar | streuner: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1637 |
| 21:41.51 | netcrusher88 | heh, i restarted the xterm i launched it from, and emacs itself, what else could be retaining locale? |
| 21:41.56 | netcrusher88 | nvm brb |
| 21:41.59 | abrotman | X |
| 21:42.25 | mentor | tyranix: What was the ? wrt to? |
| 21:42.58 | tyranix | mentor: what guy stole GPL code? What do you mean stole (put under a different license)? |
| 21:43.06 | abrotman | he didn't *steal* it .. he just charges a packaging fee IIRC |
| 21:43.08 | azeem | Joerg Schilling at the GPL |
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| 21:43.10 | azeem | eh, ate |
| 21:43.17 | mentor | He relicensed his own code |
| 21:43.26 | mentor | He also relicensed all contributions to the project |
| 21:43.29 | halibut | my monitor supports 1280*1024 but KDE only lets me set a max of 1024*768 ?? :( |
| 21:43.32 | mentor | Which he isn't allowed to do |
| 21:43.37 | mentor | Too much enter |
| 21:43.41 | abrotman | i thought you meant the packaging fee |
| 21:43.49 | abrotman | tell mentor about enter! |
| 21:43.52 | tyranix | mentor: ohhh you're talking about xchat? Okay, now it makes sense. |
| 21:43.55 | lookitsme | must go today 1 alienware area51-m 5700 laptop price 650 includes shipping, carry case. message me on mcsltd@telusmail.net on msn or on mikcomputing on aim |
| 21:43.58 | mentor | As he doesn't own the copyright to the code. |
| 21:44.03 | abrotman | lookitsme: GO AWAY |
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| 21:44.28 | halibut | any ideas? |
| 21:44.30 | abrotman | that guy comes back like once a day |
| 21:44.38 | mentor | bah |
| 21:44.40 | abrotman | halibut: does X support that mode ? |
| 21:44.44 | streuner | Azar: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 21:44.46 | mentor | abrotman: Always the same nick? |
| 21:44.50 | abrotman | mentor: nope |
| 21:44.52 | mentor | bah |
| 21:44.53 | mrverbose | is there any open source "Printed circuit board design tool" |
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| 21:44.55 | mrverbose | ? |
| 21:44.59 | halibut | abrotman, I dont know, but my monitor definately does |
| 21:45.00 | mentor | mrverbose: yes. |
| 21:45.04 | abrotman | mrverbose: geda and xcircuit |
| 21:45.08 | mrverbose | thx |
| 21:45.11 | abrotman | look in your X logs |
| 21:45.15 | mrverbose | i will look for them |
| 21:45.20 | mentor | The Windows Shareware version of XChat is not under the GPL. |
| 21:45.27 | mentor | Hence, he had to relicense. |
| 21:45.43 | streuner | mentor: there are a number of free compiled versions |
| 21:45.51 | djp | thanks for the suggestions... mentor, i was thinking of trying out xchat, but your comments might put me off... you say there is an issue with the gpl? |
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| 21:45.57 | Cyorxamp | I've got a samba share mounted in fstab which works but isn't writable dispite it saying 'rw' in the file... anyone know why? (p.s. I can write if accessing the samba share directly) |
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| 21:46.02 | mentor | streuner: There are. But that doesn't make what he does right. |
| 21:46.04 | abrotman | FFS .. is there any tool to convert any of the documents word uses to ps/pdf reliably? |
| 21:46.11 | streuner | mentor: hehe |
| 21:46.15 | mentor | djp: Only for a build for Windows. |
| 21:46.19 | Coweater | streuner: he's adding features to the windows version before releasing the source, in which case the resulting code isn't gpl |
| 21:46.20 | abrotman | erm .. documents word uses =~ doc/rtf etc |
| 21:46.23 | halibut | abrotman, where are they? I cant see them in /etc/X11 |
| 21:46.26 | mentor | djp: Don't worry about it. Just don't send the guy any code. |
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| 21:46.28 | e-doll | . |
| 21:46.30 | abrotman | halibut: /var/log/ ? |
| 21:46.49 | mentor | djp: My comments so far have summarised the situation. |
| 21:46.49 | abrotman | djp: there are other packages .. that guy is not the only one doing it |
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| 21:46.54 | streuner | Coweater: if he release shareware, what do you think he want then? |
| 21:47.08 | mentor | abrotman: Other packages that are shareware? |
| 21:47.26 | abrotman | mentor: other Win32 versions .. not shareware . or there was anyways |
| 21:47.34 | halibut | abrotman, what am I looking for? |
| 21:47.43 | djp | mentor, thanks. yes, just catching up... have to say i don't like gaim for irc, that's for sure! ;) |
| 21:47.48 | Coweater | streuner: the point is that he can't modify and distribute gpl code without the source, and by adding code to xchat without releasing the source he denies the fact that all contributions are under gpl |
| 21:47.53 | abrotman | halibut: lines about resolutions |
| 21:48.07 | streuner | mentor: some other people just made packages out of the source and they are avaiable for windows |
| 21:48.18 | halibut | (II) VESA(0): Searching for matching VESA mode(s): then it lists lots of modes, including 1280*1024 |
| 21:48.18 | tyranix | abrotman: Better than OO.org? IIRC you can script OO.org but I don't know how easy it would be. |
| 21:48.19 | abrotman | we just covered this .. |
| 21:48.29 | abrotman | except for that blitzkreig thing .. germans are slow :) |
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| 21:48.41 | streuner | haha |
| 21:48.43 | abrotman | tyranix: no X .. webserver |
| 21:48.43 | mentor | heh |
| 21:49.04 | streuner | abrotman: 'Blitzkrieg' |
| 21:49.12 | abrotman | streuner: DO I LOOK GERMAN? |
| 21:49.16 | Tortel | ja |
| 21:49.22 | k31th | guys wat you use for web gui interfaces on Deb ? like a cpannel type package |
| 21:49.23 | streuner | haha |
| 21:49.24 | e-doll | e-doll aldkflsls |
| 21:49.29 | abrotman | k31th: vi |
| 21:49.42 | e-doll | all done :-) |
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| 21:49.54 | streuner | abrotman: well, you sounds sometimes like a fucking german freak :-)) |
| 21:49.59 | Tortel | ja |
| 21:50.08 | abrotman | streuner: you're the one that has david hasselhoff albums! |
| 21:50.08 | k31th | abrotman: lol |
| 21:50.11 | k31th | i guess |
| 21:50.17 | Azar | streuner: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1638 |
| 21:50.19 | halibut | abrotman, ok I think I found something, from the log: (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (width too large for virtual size) |
| 21:50.19 | halibut | (--) VESA(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) |
| 21:50.24 | k31th | abrotman: would keep it more secure that way i guess |
| 21:50.30 | abrotman | halibut: that sounds about right :) |
| 21:50.32 | e-doll | say my name someone, i want to see if my sound works |
| 21:50.44 | abrotman | e-doll: http://realdoll.com |
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| 21:50.47 | halibut | but how do I fix it? :) |
| 21:50.52 | e-doll | no :-( |
| 21:51.08 | abrotman | !drxx halibut |
| 21:51.08 | dpkg | halibut: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 21:51.31 | hatake_kakashi | is there a possibiilty to force install even though it has unmet dependencies? the problem is that there are some packages that are not going to be installed and there are already other packages which I already have? |
| 21:51.33 | halibut | ahh, abrotman I had already tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 , it didnt work though, must be because i,m using x.org. thanks :)) |
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| 21:51.35 | mentor | Right, I have an Fujitsu Siemens AMILO A 1667G laptop. When I put it into S3/Suspend-to-RAM, it happily suspends and the BIOS blinken sleeping status light comes on, however, pressing the power button does not cause a resume. There is no response form the laptop, not even a flashing of status lights. The power button is Fixed Feature. Suspending and resuming works in windows and the BIOS. Any hints? |
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| 21:52.12 | sohmestra | is it possible to apply the ROUTE target patch to debian sarge kernels? |
| 21:52.16 | eeyore- | mentor: swsusp kernel support? |
| 21:52.25 | eeyore- | mentor: oh wait, wrong suspend. nevermind. |
| 21:52.37 | streuner | Azar: just delete one of those 3 entries |
| 21:52.44 | streuner | Azar: s/one/two/ |
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| 21:53.03 | mentor | eeyore-: Yeah. I'm pondering trying an ACPI/SWSUSP2 patch set to see if that has a fix... |
| 21:53.06 | Azar | streuner, more earthling? what and how? |
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| 21:53.11 | Laibsch | How do I force a reinstall of all installed packages. dpkg seems to have such an option but the usage seems to be unclear especially after looking at google. Anybody ever done it? |
| 21:53.19 | halibut | abrotman, what should I use as my desired xserver driver? vesa is the default, but nvidia is also listed and I have a nvidia card |
| 21:53.21 | starfishy | suspend2 works well |
| 21:53.23 | ipso | Can anyone help me find the debian package that contains PHP's xml.so file? packages.debian.com is down, so I'm having a hard time finding it. |
| 21:53.29 | mentor | dpkg --force-reinstall -i <file>? |
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| 21:53.46 | abrotman | halibut: try nvidia? .. pick only the one resolution you want |
| 21:54.16 | mentor | Laibsch: apt-get --reinstall install <name> |
| 21:54.30 | abrotman | might be confmiss stuff too |
| 21:54.32 | goron | abrotman: actually I have the same problem with emacs. I already regenerated locales. |
| 21:54.36 | mentor | Laibsch: dpkg -i will perform an install of a package file fairly unconditionally |
| 21:54.36 | tyranix | hmmm why do you guys like channels.debian.net/paste? pastebin.ca has lots more features (many more syntax highlights, expiring, no IP displayed). |
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| 21:54.42 | goron | I get this error: Unable to load font -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--20-140-100-100-p-105-iso8859-1 |
| 21:54.49 | abrotman | tyranix: because we do ok? |
| 21:54.51 | robin_z | Has anyone any clue on how to set exim4 to deliver to non-local domains? |
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| 21:55.16 | abrotman | tyranix: the website used to announce in the channel . it was kind of nice |
| 21:55.17 | Azar | streuner those just look plain apt sources to me |
| 21:55.20 | abrotman | goron: install that font ? |
| 21:55.26 | tyranix | abrotman: ahh okay |
| 21:55.41 | goron | abrotman: When I do xlsfonts in emacs, and then search for the string, two results come up |
| 21:55.48 | watchdog19 | see ya, guys ! |
| 21:55.52 | goron | abrotman: So, it must be something else. |
| 21:55.56 | abrotman | robin_z: you should know better! |
| 21:56.01 | watchdog19 | \quit go to eat |
| 21:56.04 | goron | abrotman: or a lack of understanding on my side. |
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| 21:56.05 | abrotman | goron: i'm not a fonts person .. or an emacs person |
| 21:56.10 | robin_z | abrotman: well, it may be weird, but it worked |
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| 21:56.16 | ThomasAH | what's the best VNC viewer available in Debian sarge? |
| 21:56.21 | abrotman | robin_z: FSVO worked :) |
| 21:56.23 | halibut | abrotman, what is the difference between them all? |
| 21:56.23 | goron | abrotman: I have never ever met a person who is a fonts person... |
| 21:56.32 | abrotman | halibut: they are different resolutions |
| 21:56.38 | abrotman | goron: go to #osx |
| 21:56.46 | robin_z | abrotman: well, it was able to deliver mail to remote hosts straight out of the box |
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| 21:56.58 | halibut | abrotman, I mean the drivers? each one is called something different |
| 21:57.07 | wathek | where I can add more repo for apt-get ? |
| 21:57.10 | abrotman | halibut: use nv or nvidia or vesa |
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| 21:57.15 | CruX| | hi all |
| 21:57.18 | CruX| | how can i get bios serial number in linux ? |
| 21:57.20 | goron | abrotman: Those people are a bit too "relaxed". |
| 21:57.24 | abrotman | robin_z: i think only exim defaults to not doing that |
| 21:57.34 | halibut | abrotman, does it make a difference? is this for 3d? |
| 21:57.43 | abrotman | halibut: are you going to use 3d ? |
| 21:57.45 | valdyn_ | robin_z: 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4' does that already |
| 21:57.51 | halibut | abrotman, a lot yes |
| 21:57.52 | valdyn_ | robin_z: 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' does that already |
| 21:57.57 | robin_z | abrotman: this I now know ... unfortunetley I have no idea how to set it to working state |
| 21:58.01 | halibut | It is a 7800GT (expensive graphics card) |
| 21:58.14 | abrotman | !tell halibut about nvidia one-liner |
| 21:58.35 | ansong | how does one confirm a bug to the bts? |
| 21:58.49 | halibut | I don't really understand the PM abrotman |
| 21:58.54 | valdyn_ | robin_z: but that's only for the exim4 part, doesnt make random domains accept your mails |
| 21:59.06 | stew | ansong: can you be more specific? |
| 21:59.42 | robin_z | valdyn_: sorry, you seem to be wrong |
| 21:59.56 | Cyorxamp | I've got a samba share mounted in fstab which works but isn't writable dispite it saying 'rw' in the file... anyone know why? (p.s. I can write if accessing the samba share directly) |
| 21:59.58 | abrotman | halibut: it tells you how to install the nvidia binary only driver |
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| 22:00.08 | valdyn_ | robin_z: my first line was wrong, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config does it, im sure |
| 22:00.16 | robin_z | valdyn_: oh wait .. exim4-config .. let me try that |
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| 22:00.43 | NOthsouth | how can I change the default window manager to KDE on terminal /?? |
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| 22:00.56 | valdyn_ | !xsession |
| 22:00.58 | jmg | thanks abrotman, equivs did what i need |
| 22:01.00 | dpkg | well, xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX |
| 22:01.06 | abrotman | jmg: yay |
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| 22:01.48 | valdyn_ | Cyorxamp: directly? |
| 22:01.53 | NOthsouth | valdyn_, ? |
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| 22:02.11 | Cyorxamp | valdyn_, yeah |
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| 22:02.25 | ansong | stew, i went to #debian-kde to ask about krusader crashing on me. there i found #349784, which seems to be the exact bug i'm experiencing. then i was asked to consider confirming to the bts...and that's all i know |
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| 22:02.38 | pjustice | anyone have experience with apple xserve raid under debian? |
| 22:02.41 | robin_z | valdyn_: OK, that did it .. thank ye. |
| 22:02.47 | valdyn_ | Cyorxamp: samba uses its own access control, depending on which flags you set in /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 22:03.01 | stew | ansong: send email to 349784@bugs.debian.org describing what you are experiencing and any useful info you might have |
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| 22:03.22 | ansong | stew, thanks |
| 22:03.26 | stew | ansong: thank you |
| 22:03.26 | halibut | abrotman, this config thing is asking me about bus identifyers and stuff?? I only want to set my res to 1280*1[24 |
| 22:03.33 | Cyorxamp | valdyn_, well what might I need to change in myt fstab? |
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| 22:03.42 | abrotman | halibut: bus ID is left blank |
| 22:03.45 | Laibsch | mentor: Of course. The question is how to tell it to reinstall the installed packages. |
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| 22:03.58 | halibut | abrotman, can i leave the memory and stuff blank? |
| 22:04.06 | abrotman | proably |
| 22:04.06 | mentor | Laibsch: er...I think I covered that? |
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| 22:04.18 | valdyn_ | Cyorxamp: question is what you might need to change in your smb.conf file too. did you set the share to 'public=yes' ? |
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| 22:04.35 | Cyorxamp | valdyn_, havent altered that at all |
| 22:04.39 | Cyorxamp | valdyn_, why should I need to? |
| 22:04.41 | Silvercat | hi, is there some way to implement a web-based authentication instead of encrypting to secure a wireless lan? |
| 22:04.41 | valdyn_ | Cyorxamp: are you setting username / password in /etc/fstab or logging on anonymously? |
| 22:04.55 | k31th | Guys wat do you use for a vpn client ? |
| 22:04.57 | michael | Can anyone help me out setting my refresh rate on my monitor? |
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| 22:05.14 | Cyorxamp | valdyn_, I am setting a username and pass .... i.e. rw,username=Administrator,password=password |
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| 22:05.21 | Obst | hi |
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| 22:05.35 | Laibsch | mentor: No. How? You were talking about specific packages. But I am looking for something to *re*install all installed packages. |
| 22:05.42 | BladeRunner05 | how can I see with apt all packages like mysql* on my system? |
| 22:05.54 | NOthsouth | how can I modify the default window manager to KDE on terminal ?? |
| 22:06.04 | Laibsch | mentor: your proposal will not even force a reinstall. |
| 22:06.14 | valdyn_ | Cyorxamp: your linux system has a user 'Administrator' ? |
| 22:06.21 | mentor | Laibsch: well then you only need a list of all installed packages. |
| 22:06.28 | mentor | Laibsch: dpkg --get-selections |
| 22:06.33 | mentor | Laibsch: yes it will. |
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| 22:06.58 | valdyn_ | Cyorxamp: or in other words, are files in that share writable by Administrator? |
| 22:07.01 | Laibsch | mentor: Will it install the same versions? |
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| 22:07.09 | Cyorxamp | valdyn_, no silly - the samba share is coming from a w2k+3 server |
| 22:07.11 | valdyn_ | !wikifaq Cyorxamp Permissions |
| 22:07.11 | dpkg | Cyorxamp: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 22:07.14 | tyranix | k31th: I haven't used this, but it's a new feature in OpenSSH 4.3 (if you're looking for an easy solution without extra software): http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/375 |
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| 22:07.36 | mentor | Laibsch: It will install whatever version that apt install would |
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| 22:07.57 | eleftherios | is there a howto for MySQL on Debian? I couldn't find much on google |
| 22:08.07 | Cyorxamp | valdyn_, hmmm |
| 22:08.17 | cisse | eleftherios: apt-get install mysql |
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| 22:08.29 | starfishy | is it just me or does aptitude have some issues with version number resolution? |
| 22:08.30 | stew | eleftherios: apt-get install mysql-server or mysql-server-4.1 |
| 22:08.34 | chaedaeX | eleftherios: howto for what exactly? |
| 22:08.35 | aum | hi - i restored my main disk from an hdup backup, now "man <anything>" gives "groff: can't find `DESC' file" and "groff:fatal error: invalid device `latin1'" - any ideas? |
| 22:08.38 | mentor | Laibsch: If you have the packages for all the current versions you can use dpkg to install them |
| 22:08.49 | starfishy | package xyz depends on abc version >=1.2.3 |
| 22:08.53 | eleftherios | I already have MySQL installed and running for years |
| 22:09.05 | starfishy | aptitude marks it as unresolved even though 1.2.3-8 is installed |
| 22:09.23 | Azar | versions, versions , versions |
| 22:09.24 | eleftherios | chaedaeX, not an installation howto. I mean tuning, administration, etc. |
| 22:09.34 | valdyn_ | Cyorxamp: win2k doesnt export shares writable by default iirc, but i cant help you fixing that. |
| 22:09.36 | mhall | mmm good pizza |
| 22:09.45 | tyranix | starfishy: Maybe it's looking for a newer one with a different Provides: ? |
| 22:09.49 | chaedaeX | eleftherios: the mysql documentation is probably one of the best for any open source application |
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| 22:09.58 | Cyorxamp | valdyn_, no but its supposed to login! and its w2003 |
| 22:09.59 | Azar | debian version, kernel version, package version |
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| 22:10.02 | BladeRunner05 | in wich folder are stored all installed packages ? |
| 22:10.12 | eleftherios | was just wondering, I am reading the official MySQL docs as we speak :-) |
| 22:10.18 | stew | eleftherios: it would be no different on debian than other distros, /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/examples will have some different example configs for tuning |
| 22:10.26 | Silvercat | hi, is there some way to implement a web-based authentication where users are required to input valid data to be allowed a connection, instead of encrypting, to secure a wireless lan? |
| 22:10.28 | mhall | Azar: wine? |
| 22:10.37 | Azar | mhall: cabernet |
| 22:10.37 | eleftherios | stew, thank you |
| 22:10.42 | streuner | mhall: good pizza is a very relative term in the world... |
| 22:10.47 | mhall | Azar: havin a shindig or what |
| 22:10.53 | rambo3 | go for the ubuntu guide on mysql |
| 22:10.53 | mhall | streuner: true! |
| 22:11.01 | Azar | :) |
| 22:11.03 | Laibsch | mentor: Still, I think there is something missing. apt-get reinstall install <name>? I guess I can't just pipe dpkg --get-selections to that command or via xargs. |
| 22:11.05 | valdyn_ | Silvercat: certainly if your access point is running linux |
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| 22:11.12 | streuner | mhall: just in my hometome you get more than 30 different tastes |
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| 22:11.32 | stew | BladeRunner05: what are you trying to do? |
| 22:11.36 | eleftherios | stew, I was just wondering if there were any Debian-isms and changes in the Debian version of the package |
| 22:11.42 | mentor | Laibsch: No, you have to select the installed pacakges and extract just the names. That is left as an excercise to the reader. |
| 22:11.43 | streuner | mhall: and they make pizza in france totally different than in germany |
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| 22:12.03 | stew | eleftherios: if there are, they would be documented in /usr/share/doc/packagename/README.Debian |
| 22:12.05 | mhall | streuner: 30 tastes in *one city* |
| 22:12.09 | mhall | streuner: crazy |
| 22:12.17 | eleftherios | stew, as there are with Apache 2 for example |
| 22:12.27 | streuner | mhall: nothing is more various than pizzas ! |
| 22:12.27 | eleftherios | stew, I have read that, thank you :-) |
| 22:12.41 | mhall | Azar: which dict |
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| 22:13.01 | Azar | mhall the one I write and intend to publish in 2020 |
| 22:13.03 | sewi | hello, I have dvdrw device on hdc and dvd reader on hdd. In /dev I have hdc linked to /dev/dvd and hdd to /dev/dvd1. And when I want type mplayer dvd:// I can only watch a movie from dvdrw and when I type mplayer dvd1:// nothing happens with error: mplayer: could not connect to socket. How to watch movies from dvd reader? |
| 22:13.08 | Laibsch | mentor: Well, thanks for that :-( Not quite "I covered that", I guess. |
| 22:13.10 | tyranix | Silvercat: This isn't a troll (I love Debian :) but tell me if you find something better than this: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/authpf.html (It dynamically sets up firewall rules based on successful ssh logins). |
| 22:13.16 | mhall | Azar: ah, nfs://127.0.0.1/brain |
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| 22:13.32 | stew | sewi: iirc there is a -dvd-device parameter to mplayer |
| 22:13.33 | Azar | :) |
| 22:13.33 | valdyn_ | sewi: mplayer -dvd-device /dev/hdd dvd:// |
| 22:13.33 | mentor | heh |
| 22:13.33 | Laibsch | mentor: "apt-get --reinstall `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | cut -d' ' -f1`" seems to be a possible solution. Still quite far from what you suggested. |
| 22:13.45 | wathek | how to do to make a snapshot using a terminal ? |
| 22:13.51 | streuner | !ss |
| 22:13.51 | dpkg | well, ss is screenshot is 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
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| 22:14.08 | Azar | wathek: there is a common device known as "photo camera" |
| 22:14.29 | blondie | photo camera? |
| 22:14.31 | blondie | it's just a camera |
| 22:14.32 | dvm1981 | I try to setup my sound 'ESS1688' on my laptop. I have installed alsa and what his needs (dpkg says what). Azar, stew have help me previously today :-) Really thankx. My problem is not really solved, im on step 2 now :-) Im not sure that the install are good and that my soundcard works. So i try to play a MP3 file to listen if it work. But when i play an audio (MP3,wav) file the player does nothing, the progressbar still on the same place, if |
| 22:14.32 | dvm1981 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.35 | pjustice | anyone have experience with apple xserve &| fibre channel under debian? |
| 22:14.38 | Azar | wathek: make sure it has flash because plain terminal is dark |
| 22:14.43 | wathek | ok |
| 22:15.21 | Silvercat | valdyn, see, the point is to be able to implement this for wired clients too, making authentication equal for wired and wireless clients. so, the auth part has to happen on the router |
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| 22:15.34 | Azar | dvm1981: ask stew if you can find and disable oss modules |
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| 22:15.46 | christor | Hi , I have a prob to have sound on my linux but it doesn t work. |
| 22:15.55 | Silvercat | valdyn, an authenticating gateway would be a good work. |
| 22:15.59 | dvm1981 | Azar: Ok ;-) |
| 22:16.10 | dvm1981 | Stew : Any suggestion ? |
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| 22:16.17 | christor | I have chechek lsmod and I have snd_ens1371 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_ens1371,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_ac97_codec |
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| 22:16.28 | mhall | christor: alsamixer |
| 22:16.32 | Azar | dvm1981: if the player bars , lets are not moving ... if they do, is volume adjustment thingie |
| 22:16.48 | stew | dvm1981: can you put the output of lsmod into a pastebin? |
| 22:17.06 | sewi | stew, valdyn_: thanks it really works! And how to set so that typing mplayer dvd:// , a movie would be played from hdd and not from hdc? |
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| 22:17.10 | mhall | markybob: why markybob and not, say, bobbymark? |
| 22:17.10 | dvm1981 | stew : Go to the laptop ;-) |
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| 22:17.16 | dvm1981 | Azar : I not understand |
| 22:17.18 | christor | mhall: for information I want have sound in command line |
| 22:17.40 | mhall | christor: use alsamixer to check mixer levels |
| 22:17.49 | markybob | mhall: because that's the nickname i was given by a math professor years ago |
| 22:17.51 | ndee | hello there, I know it has nothing to do with debian but here goes: Are there wireless TV receivers? The problem is, I don't wanna pull a whole cable thru my condo(can't get satellite). |
| 22:17.54 | mhall | christor: rerun alsaconf too |
| 22:17.56 | valdyn_ | sewi: edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf or ~/.mplayer/config |
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| 22:17.57 | mhall | markybob: ah |
| 22:18.02 | mhall | markybob: random |
| 22:18.06 | Azar | dvm1981: when you try to play a file, the player skin will show some activity, leds, showing sound going... if not, then listen to stew.. |
| 22:18.26 | mhall | markybob: since i'm named hall and i drink a lot i'm alcohall |
| 22:18.44 | dvm1981 | Azar: Yes, the player not show that he is running, he show nothing and do nothings |
| 22:18.54 | Silvercat | tyranix, that seems pretty nice. have you checked out NocatAuth? |
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| 22:19.00 | tyranix | markybob: So what did you do in retaliation? :) |
| 22:19.12 | Azar | dvm1981: then show stew what he asked you to show |
| 22:19.17 | christor | mhall: ok it wors fine thx |
| 22:19.20 | mhall | tyranix: the question one would expect from somebody called tyranix ;-) |
| 22:19.22 | raf256 | apt-file search mkxauth |
| 22:19.24 | mhall | christor: np |
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| 22:19.28 | raf256 | returns nothing |
| 22:19.28 | mhall | !tell christor about thx |
| 22:19.29 | tyranix | hehe |
| 22:19.34 | raf256 | where on debian is mkxauth to create X auth files? |
| 22:19.35 | christor | mhall: very good , I m playing with flite to give me speech |
| 22:19.44 | markybob | tyranix: nothing...i liked it, if you didnt pick on that.. :) |
| 22:19.46 | mhall | christor: elite |
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| 22:19.52 | dvm1981 | Azar: Yep, slop laptop here, i running KDE, i want fluxbox, -> 128MB RAM |
| 22:19.58 | dvm1981 | slow |
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| 22:20.20 | mrverbose | dvm1981: try icewm |
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| 22:20.24 | mhall | it is sad, windows takes much less RAM and CPU than X now |
| 22:20.39 | mrverbose | mhall: try xorg 7.0 |
| 22:20.56 | Azar | mhall, depends, not here ... kde/gnome-free Azar |
| 22:20.56 | mhall | mrverbose: 6.9 has horrid XAA bugs -> 100% cpu |
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| 22:21.01 | dvm1981 | mrverbose : I have write a note :-) thx |
| 22:21.14 | mhall | Azar: but icewm is missing features that windows has |
| 22:21.16 | streuner | mhall: never saw them... |
| 22:21.24 | mhall | streuner: which? |
| 22:21.26 | Azar | mhall openbox |
| 22:21.36 | tyranix | Silvercat: Hmmm I'd prefer the authpf method myself. It requires that someone logs in via ssh (lots of people check out the code, very popular) rather than having yet another authentication mechanism. :) That's why I'd be against a web based auth. You have the webserver and app on top of it to worry about. |
| 22:21.41 | streuner | mhall: 6.9 just run fine in debian |
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| 22:22.03 | mhall | tyranix: what are you trying to do |
| 22:22.08 | mhall | streuner: 100% cpu usage here |
| 22:22.14 | christor | mhall: nono flite |
| 22:22.21 | mhall | streuner: and gravity knows about it and thinks XAA is broken but cannot say for sure |
| 22:22.28 | tyranix | mhall: Silvercat wants a way to authenticated/restrict wireless users. |
| 22:22.34 | Azar | mhall 0-4% CPU usage here |
| 22:22.45 | mhall | tyranix: i would say nocat auth but then Silvercat would disappear |
| 22:22.47 | christor | mhall: I have put a mon (monitor) and when I have alert I have a sound HTTP service down please restart it |
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| 22:22.56 | tyranix | mhall: haha |
| 22:22.59 | Silvercat | tyranix, this is for bsd though? |
| 22:23.18 | tyranix | Silvercat: Yeah :( That's why I said that's what I would use. Is there anything like it for Debian? |
| 22:23.48 | Silvercat | mhall, I tried that once, but I struggled a lot with the authentication server.. |
| 22:23.48 | mhall | tyranix: this will start a war, but there are a million wrong ways to do it and about three right ones |
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| 22:24.01 | eeyore- | so not only do HD vendors use 1000000 for "1GB", but LCD (esp. car LCD) vendors also use the RGB dots to inflate count too, eh? :-) 2400x480 dots my butt. |
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| 22:24.13 | dvm1981__ | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1639 |
| 22:24.19 | streuner | mhall: sent a patch |
| 22:24.20 | Azar | haha |
| 22:24.36 | starfishy | eeyore: where did you find a 2400x480 display? |
| 22:24.44 | eeyore- | starfishy: common 7" touchscreens |
| 22:24.58 | starfishy | i have a whole bunch of LCDs but the resolution the companies state are the real resolutions in pixels |
| 22:25.00 | dvm1981 | back to the other, i must be switch, KDE with 128 MB RAM are not enought ? |
| 22:25.01 | starfishy | ah |
| 22:25.04 | eeyore- | starfishy: it's really 800x480, but they 3xRGB triplets |
| 22:25.09 | starfishy | yikes |
| 22:25.20 | Silvercat | tyranix, I wouldn't even mind getting a mini distro that can handle it.. :P |
| 22:25.26 | mhall | Silvercat: your choices for good reliability are 802.1x with PEAP + MSCHAPv2 (for win clients), 802.1x with EAP TLS, and PPTP |
| 22:25.29 | dvm1981 | stew: Sorry that i take time to paste the url here, |
| 22:25.49 | mhall | Silvercat: pptp is probably easier but not perfectly crypto secure |
| 22:26.04 | eeyore- | starfishy: right, so the car lcd vendors have been using "rgb triplet" count to inflate the horizontal dot resolution :-) |
| 22:26.06 | mhall | eeyore-: bastards |
| 22:26.12 | azeem | mhall: I thought it was total crap, crypto-wise |
| 22:26.22 | mhall | azeem: well... yes and no |
| 22:26.31 | mhall | azeem: it depends on the standards you have got |
| 22:26.34 | eeyore- | azeem: crypto? |
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| 22:26.42 | mhall | azeem: it's not trivially crackable like WEP |
| 22:26.46 | dvm1981 | I start 'Fluxbox' on the laptop |
| 22:26.53 | mhall | azeem: but not as good as properly configured L2TP |
| 22:26.56 | azeem | mhall: heh, ok |
| 22:27.05 | mhall | azeem: it's just... L2TP is a disaster to configure |
| 22:27.14 | zinx | eeyore-: hey, it works for digital camera makers.. why not LCDs? |
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| 22:27.37 | Silvercat | mhall, got a decent read for setting up such a solution? |
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| 22:27.52 | mhall | Silvercat: yeah i wish i did; i've been dicking with connecting to my school |
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| 22:28.03 | mhall | Silvercat: PEAP is kind of a bitch on linux sometimes |
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| 22:28.15 | mhall | Silvercat: EAP TLS works better but is not often supported |
| 22:28.22 | E-bola | dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `amavis' in statusoverride file |
| 22:28.23 | E-bola | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
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| 22:28.24 | sombrirx | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.28 | E-bola | I get that when trying to install new packages? |
| 22:28.29 | mhall | Silvercat: are you sure you can't roll with VPN |
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| 22:28.35 | E-bola | what is the statusoverride file? |
| 22:28.38 | Sander-nl | Alright I'm a real linux noob... can someone tell me which one I need from this list? http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php |
| 22:28.42 | cisse | Silvercat: why not openvpn ? |
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| 22:29.16 | ludicuz | hi all. i have a problem with mjpegtools package |
| 22:29.26 | Silvercat | vpn might work |
| 22:29.31 | ludicuz | i have installed it using apt-get |
| 22:29.59 | Silvercat | mhall, I just need a simple solution, doesn't have to be all that secure, at least not crypto-wise.. |
| 22:30.14 | ludicuz | but i haven't y4mscaler installed properly, and i can't compile it because i give back an error during it |
| 22:30.25 | mhall | Silvercat: yeah vpn it then |
| 22:30.37 | mhall | Silvercat: and that way people who aren't vpned can get 'guest access' |
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| 22:30.48 | mhall | Silvercat: where they could... download the client or the unix conf files or whatever |
| 22:30.53 | ludicuz | anyone had prblem using mjpegtools ? |
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| 22:31.11 | petemc | ludicuz: what kind of problem? |
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| 22:31.43 | Sander-nl | ah nm there's a package :) |
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| 22:32.00 | ludicuz | petemc, i haven't this package installed, after apt-get mjpegtools |
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| 22:32.58 | ReSeTeN | hi all |
| 22:33.07 | ReSeTeN | anybody have chillispot or nocat? |
| 22:33.18 | ludicuz | petemc, y4mscaler is part of mjpegtools, but after apt-get install mjpegtools and library, i haven't installed this package |
| 22:33.43 | ludicuz | petemc, i have try to compile only y4mscaler.bz2 package, but exit with error... |
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| 22:34.26 | petemc | ludicuz: i dont have y4mscaler installed either |
| 22:34.59 | petemc | ludicuz: presumably its not part of the package, file a bug if you think it requires it |
| 22:35.17 | bag | My sound doesn't seem to work after a reboot. What should I check for fixing it? |
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| 22:36.49 | BucWheat | any comedi users in chan? |
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| 22:37.12 | ludicuz | petemc, http://andesi.org/pub/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/Packages |
| 22:37.35 | ludicuz | petemc, here explain that y4mscaler is part of mjpegtools |
| 22:37.49 | Mxyzpltk | bag: first thing is to check mixer settings, volume levels and mute status in the different channels |
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| 22:38.12 | petemc | ludicuz: yeah, well, not the package in debian - come to think of it i got my deb from sourceforge. looks like you're on your own |
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| 22:38.38 | bag | Mxyzpltk: output levels are correct |
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| 22:38.53 | ludicuz | petemc, have you sourcerge in source.list ? |
| 22:39.00 | petemc | ludicuz: no |
| 22:39.27 | petemc | ludicuz: ah wait, i do :) |
| 22:39.43 | petemc | ludicuz: i have dydstyler.sourceforge.net in my sources.list |
| 22:39.45 | Mxyzpltk | bag: did you had it working for long or you just set it up before the reboot? if yes, did you change anything (kernel for example) |
| 22:40.12 | petemc | ludicuz: but, as i said, i dont have the app you need installed, so its fairly moot |
| 22:40.12 | bag | myx: this was 2nd reboot after a dist-upgrade, first reboot worked fine |
| 22:40.14 | eeyore- | bag: how did you test whether sound is working or not? |
| 22:40.30 | ludicuz | petemc, ok. i'll try to search again.. |
| 22:40.34 | bag | eeyore-: xmms and totem |
| 22:40.36 | sewi | I have a Speedtouch USB modem and each time I switch on computer debian must find it. In which init file the modem should be loaded? |
| 22:40.37 | comex | fc-list doesn't seem to be able to find ANY .pcf.gz fonts. |
| 22:40.44 | Mxyzpltk | bag: do you get any errors or just no sound? |
| 22:40.54 | eeyore- | bag: too high level. cat something to the sound device. |
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| 22:41.37 | bag | Actually it says /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy |
| 22:41.37 | eeyore- | bag: also, "cat /proc/asound/cards", read the output |
| 22:42.20 | eeyore- | bag: ps axfwu | egrep "(arts|esd)" |
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| 22:43.54 | bag | eeyore-: The cat showed 2 things (C-Media PCI and UART) not my sound blaster. And the ps showed artsd |
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| 22:44.17 | sombrirx | question - how can i resize a logical partition on my extended linux partition? i have qtparted loaded by it doesn't allow me to change the size (resizes option is grayed out). thanks! :) |
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| 22:44.41 | tyranix | mhall: I don't want to start a war. :) But why isn't an auth-pf like solution good enough? Deny all outgoing traffic and then when people authenticate via ssh, write firewall rules outbound (and remove them when they disconnect). |
| 22:44.57 | js_ | how do mount an LDM volume? |
| 22:45.03 | tyranix | So personally, I'd be interested in an iptables module that does the same thing. |
| 22:45.26 | eeyore- | bag: ok then, two issues |
| 22:45.48 | eeyore- | bag: one, you didn't alsaconf for your soundblaster. two, you're running artsd, and your xmms/whatever isn't set to use artsd. |
| 22:46.36 | eeyore- | bag: two issues are related. if you're going to use your soundblaster, you probably doesn't have to care about artsd. soundblaster *should* handle multiple openers. but, this just makes you forget the larger issue of "i got sound multiplexer daemon running but i didn't configure my applications properly" |
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| 22:48.04 | chbug | hi. I've just noticed that the initrd that comes with linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 cannot be mounted. this led me to the following question: is there a command to check that the file is actually the one provided by the .deb? |
| 22:48.35 | bag | eeyore-: Thank you. |
| 22:48.42 | chbug | so that I can discard the possibility of having changed the file myself... |
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| 22:48.49 | stew | chbug: the deb doesn't provide a initrd, one is generated on your system in postinst |
| 22:49.21 | chbug | stew, simply by calling mkinitrd? because I regenerated one afterward, which works much better |
| 22:50.11 | michael | how to restart X without leaving all applications and logging off? |
| 22:50.19 | tyranix | chbug: If it isn't autogenerated, you can run 'debsums <packagename>' and it will check the MD5s against your files. |
| 22:50.20 | stew | chbug: by calling either mkinitrd.yaird or mkinitramfs depending on what you ahve installed |
| 22:50.37 | chakatz | Anyone know how do get around this? "Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.15.1 on running kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8". I have all the latest testing packages for amd64 including initrd-tools 0.1.84 |
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| 22:50.53 | stew | chakatz: install initramfs-tools |
| 22:50.55 | penguin | Suddenly I cant get the printer to work |
| 22:51.05 | chealer_ | 7440cheal |
| 22:51.10 | chealer_ | damn it |
| 22:51.26 | chealer_ | what a joke |
| 22:51.40 | tyranix | hehe, you should script that chealer_. :) |
| 22:52.44 | chbug | tyranix, this is exactly what I looked for (except the file I wanted to check _is_ generated, but I didn't know it :-)) |
| 22:52.48 | chealer_ | good thing I don't use the same root password on all my boxes |
| 22:52.54 | chakatz | Can't. they depend on udev >=0.076-5. 0.081-1 is the testing version and it needs a kernel higher than 2.6.12. Catch-22 |
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| 22:53.09 | stew | chakatz: then install yaird instead |
| 22:53.12 | tyranix | chealer_: ummm you should have let well enough alone hehe. I assumed it was your IRC password. |
| 22:53.29 | chealer_ | tyranix: much worst |
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| 22:53.38 | chealer_ | tyranix: but you're right :) |
| 22:53.56 | chaedaeX | Fei8ri4n |
| 22:54.00 | chaedaeX | oh shoot! |
| 22:54.07 | tyranix | chealer_: Setup ssh to only allow public key encryption. :) Then no one can brute force your password and you're protected if you accidentally do that again. :) |
| 22:54.15 | tyranix | chealer_: well unless someone gets your private key. |
| 22:54.24 | chealer_ | and thanks for your comments on the unguessability of my passwords |
| 22:54.25 | chbug | stew, I've both mkinitrd (from initrd-tools) and mkinitrd.yaird installed. the one I generated used vanilla mkinitrd |
| 22:54.39 | raf256[laptop] | on debian - where is mkxauth? |
| 22:54.44 | raf256[laptop] | !info mkxauth |
| 22:54.47 | chakatz | stew: done. Do I need to compile again or just try to install? |
| 22:55.03 | chealer_ | tyranix: hopefully I'll notice too if it happens again! |
| 22:55.06 | stew | chakatz: reinstall the kernel package |
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| 22:55.38 | stew | chakatz: after you reboot, check to see if DMA is turned on if you have IDE disks, and if not check the BTS for yarid, there is a bug |
| 22:55.53 | chbug | stew, I think I'll monitor more closely what happens at the next kernel upgrade. thanks for the info. |
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| 22:56.39 | stew | chbug: i thought 2.6.15 requires yaird or initramfs, which is why it depends on one or the other being installed |
| 22:56.56 | chakatz | stew: Thanks man! the install succeded!!! Now for a reboot... See you on the other side. |
| 22:57.17 | Azar | !beer stew |
| 22:57.32 | michael | stew: do you know how I can increase my monitors refresh rate from 85Hz to 100Hz? |
| 22:57.45 | chbug | maybe it used yaird then, but the resulting file should be mountable as cramfs too, no? |
| 22:57.51 | chakatz | BTS? |
| 22:58.00 | tyranix | chakatz: bug tracking system |
| 22:58.07 | stew | michael: does "xrandr" list 100 as being an available rate/ |
| 22:58.27 | chealer_ | !tell corrupt about away |
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| 22:59.11 | JMTeal | anyone help me with the proftpd.conf? |
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| 22:59.22 | cisse | yes, don't run ftp |
| 22:59.23 | pipeline | JMTeal: Not unless you ask a question. |
| 22:59.40 | stew | chbug: no i don't think it creates a cramfs image |
| 23:00.15 | tyranix | stew: hmmm is that reliable? Mine says 85 max for every mode including 320x200 and I'm sure it can do well over that. |
| 23:00.29 | ReSeTeN | anybody have chillispot or nocat? |
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| 23:00.45 | JMTeal | ok i want to set up a single user acct for ftp only with access to read from all the directories in the home, and write only to a "dropbox" |
| 23:00.46 | chbug | stew, I managed to mount it as ramfs, but it contained nothing. maybe I should remove initrd-tools, there are maybe some conflicts |
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| 23:01.12 | michael | stew: no it does not list 100Hz as a possible resolution. But I think the monitor is being detected correctly. I had an old phillips before but my new iiyama can do quite more... |
| 23:01.21 | stew | chbug: it creates a cpio archive by default |
| 23:01.28 | michael | stew: *refresh rate* |
| 23:01.35 | chakatz | stew: what's the easiest way to check the DMA status of a drive? |
| 23:01.53 | stew | chakatz: cat /proc/ide/hda/settings |
| 23:01.55 | azeem | michael: any particular reason why you need 100Hz? |
| 23:02.11 | michael | azeem: it feels alot better on my eyes, yes. |
| 23:02.15 | stew | michael: what do you have in for VertRefresh in the config? |
| 23:02.56 | dvm1981 | stew : Hey stew, you are back again ;-) |
| 23:02.58 | stew | tyranix: yes, it's accurate, if your monitor and card can do settings higher than what is listed, your server is probably misconvigured |
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| 23:03.18 | tyranix | stew: okay, thanks. |
| 23:03.28 | stew | *configured |
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| 23:03.47 | eeyore- | 100Hz refresh rate? |
| 23:03.49 | eeyore- | crazy |
| 23:03.53 | tyranix | hmm I wonder what the new way is? When I did 'cat /proc/ide/hda/settings' it complained that the interface is obsolete without telling me what the new interface is. :/ |
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| 23:04.04 | azeem | tyranix: probably /sys |
| 23:04.15 | eeyore- | michael: is it CRT or LCD? |
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| 23:04.19 | stew | tyranix: cat /proc/ide/ide0/hda/settings |
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| 23:05.08 | tyranix | stew: ahh thanks |
| 23:05.17 | chakatz | stew: my drives are sata and are recognized as scsi so I checked in cat /proc/scsi/scsi. There is a line there that says Type: Direct-Access. Does that mean DMA? |
| 23:05.31 | chbug | stew, I think I'll investigate that after sleeping... tx for all the information |
| 23:05.39 | BR_WARRIOR | I already loaded de IPX module on my kernel, I have the ipx package installed on my system. So, now, What I need to run my Starcraft on wine working in network game/IPX ? I tryed something with ipx_interface, but everything failed. |
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| 23:05.46 | stew | chakatz: oh if its sata, then forget everything i said about dma, you are good to go |
| 23:05.55 | chakatz | thanks man |
| 23:06.02 | stew | chakatz: you're welcome |
| 23:06.31 | dvm1981 | I have just installed 'icewm', is that good for a laptop with 128MB RAM ? It's looks really nice, i have experience with 'fluxbox','xfce' and the two most know. But i must make choise due the RAM. Other suggestions, i take notes :-) thx |
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| 23:07.08 | eeyore- | can you wrap a CVS pserver inside an SSH tunnel? |
| 23:07.20 | tremor | small and no wishes for extras .. maybe twm |
| 23:07.52 | Azar | dvm1981: so did you fixed alsa ? |
| 23:07.52 | cisse | eeyore-: you can use cvs over ssh, i would ignore the pserver |
| 23:07.53 | dvm1981 | But in 'icewm' there are not many items in the menu, the menu 'programs' are empty and the menu 'applications' show less than what there are. |
| 23:08.23 | eeyore- | cisse: we'd rather not allow access to the filesystem which would be implied by :ext: method |
| 23:08.24 | stew | dvm1981: try running "update-menus" |
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| 23:09.13 | eeyore- | cisse: besides pserver gives you more goodness via one set of scripts/policies |
| 23:09.17 | dvm1981 | Azar: Thankx that you are insterested in my problem :-) But is not fixed :-( it's go to fixed, it's take time, not easy, but i hope ... |
| 23:09.34 | dvm1981 | stew : Thankx, doing now |
| 23:10.00 | tyranix | michael: If you figure it out, let me know. :) I also have an iiyama and it doesn't show up above 85 refresh rate. It's properly configured (vert/horiz rates are correct). |
| 23:10.11 | shwag | is DHCP udp or tcp ? |
| 23:10.15 | eeyore- | i'd probably do this -> http://www.cycom.co.uk/howto/cvssshtunnel.html |
| 23:10.15 | dvm1981 | I really like the GNU/Linux stuff here ;-) Thankx everybody |
| 23:10.22 | michael | stew: this is what you've requested: VertRefresh 50-180 |
| 23:10.32 | cisse | shwag: udp i beleive |
| 23:10.36 | eeyore- | dvm1981: i got bored asking you to do something and not having any feedback from you |
| 23:10.39 | tyranix | michael: I have 50-160 and mine doesn't show up above 85. |
| 23:10.53 | michael | tyranix: rogar that. |
| 23:10.56 | JMTeal | exit |
| 23:10.56 | eeyore- | dvm1981: besides, i feel you're just wasting time |
| 23:10.57 | stew | michael: tyranix: read the x logs and see why the other modes are being throws out |
| 23:11.13 | michael | stew: where can I find them? |
| 23:11.18 | nima | is libflash any good? |
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| 23:11.29 | stew | michael: /var/log/XFree86.0.log (or Xorg.0.log) |
| 23:11.38 | Azar | eeyore- feed meee please feed me |
| 23:11.52 | thingfish | hehe Azar = nut |
| 23:11.54 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: Sorry, i think i have not see it, i must reading the log then, im really sorry, you are trying to help, i understand you, really sorry |
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| 23:12.32 | Azar | eeyore- is the father of my alsa install |
| 23:12.34 | tyranix | Could it be something from XFree86 -> Xorg? I thought they were compatible. |
| 23:12.38 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:12.50 | tyranix | config file wise |
| 23:12.51 | thingfish | eeyore- is a good dude, he helps a lot. |
| 23:13.03 | michael | stew: what should I look for exactly? never read this log before :/ |
| 23:13.27 | Azar | alsa was and still is the most annoying installation/configuration I hope etch will fix that |
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| 23:13.39 | tyranix | michael: Look for (!!), (WW), or (EE) |
| 23:13.50 | thingfish | Azar: why all the trouble? I use sarge; alsa in sarge is no problem. |
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| 23:14.06 | rambo3 | alsa is allways problem |
| 23:14.08 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:14.09 | Azar | thingfish: same here, Sarge |
| 23:14.13 | thingfish | odd |
| 23:14.22 | michael | stew: (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1280x1024": 157.5 MHz, 91.1 kHz, 85.0 Hz |
| 23:14.28 | thingfish | all I had to do was apt-get alsa-base alsa-utils, and voila. |
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| 23:15.09 | Azar | thingfish I am special (haha) I started with Woody>up to Sarge>kernel up> x-server > nvidia install > alsa install |
| 23:15.15 | thingfish | oh I see. |
| 23:15.29 | thingfish | upgrading can bring up all kinds of woe. |
| 23:15.37 | B0ZNACU | anyone know a command that i can find info about a jpeg with, from the console? i need the h-width and v-width. |
| 23:15.39 | thingfish | although it's really not supposed to, with Debian. |
| 23:15.47 | Azar | thingfish, was some experience, I am not sorry |
| 23:15.51 | thingfish | cool |
| 23:15.57 | nkuttler | B0ZNACU: identify, imagemagick |
| 23:16.02 | thingfish | experience is priceless. |
| 23:16.05 | B0ZNACU | nkuttler: thanks. |
| 23:16.08 | rambo3 | you8 just changed sources.lst? |
| 23:16.25 | Azar | when etch will come out, I will miss all this works |
| 23:16.31 | thingfish | I can't figure out what it is about beer that makes it so good. |
| 23:16.45 | ReSeTeN | anybody have chillispot or nocat? |
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| 23:17.06 | Azar | ReSeTeN: if this helps you: not me |
| 23:17.13 | michael | (WW) NVIDIA(0): Failure reading EDID parameters for display device CRT-0 |
| 23:17.16 | thingfish | Azar: well, then you'll still have stuff to do, it'll just be different than what you have to do for sarge. |
| 23:17.28 | eeyore- | dvm1981: ok, so, if you want to do this, then you should now try "cat /proc/asound/cards" and read the output |
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| 23:17.45 | eeyore- | dvm1981: compare that output with "lspci", just in case you have multiple sound interfaces |
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| 23:17.46 | ReSeTeN | thanks Azar |
| 23:17.49 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: I have read back againg the log file, i remember the speakers on the other pc was not on. |
| 23:18.14 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: Alsamixer done, |
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| 23:18.35 | thingfish | ooh yum, Azar. Cabs can be nice. Is it pure cab sauv, or a blend? |
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| 23:18.51 | Azar | thingfish: pure sauvignon |
| 23:18.58 | michael | please anyone tell me how to increase to 100Hz? |
| 23:19.00 | thingfish | Azar: who made it? |
| 23:19.08 | eeyore- | shiraz/pinot noir for me |
| 23:19.12 | Azar | my gramps from private small vinery |
| 23:19.14 | thingfish | michael: you'll use 85Hz and like it, mister. |
| 23:19.20 | eeyore- | can't stand whites |
| 23:19.23 | thingfish | Azar: no fair! |
| 23:19.25 | dvm1981 | Quitting alsamixer... Pressing 'C-c' to Quit? That work, not 'Q' |
| 23:19.28 | tyranix | michael: did you try #xorg? |
| 23:19.32 | thingfish | I can stand whites, just prefer reds. |
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| 23:19.48 | eeyore- | dvm1981: escape |
| 23:19.50 | rambo3 | esc? |
| 23:19.55 | thingfish | I mean, I won't fuss if you give me a lovely fat chardonnay with a couple years on it. |
| 23:20.06 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: Right :-) |
| 23:20.36 | Azar | alsactl store? |
| 23:20.45 | Azar | or now is autosaving? |
| 23:20.48 | michael | thingfish: 85Hz hurts :) |
| 23:20.53 | eeyore- | you can find cheap and surprisingly good/drinkable shiraz these days. i don't go for fancy blends (read: we can't sell this shit so we'll just mix it and make you drink it, and you WILL like it!) |
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| 23:21.15 | eeyore- | dvm1981: do the /proc/asound/cards and lspci thing, please |
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| 23:21.24 | tyranix | michael: We may have to do a custom modeline? |
| 23:21.27 | Azar | michael just to end your pain: standard default is 60hz or 75hz ... your 85hz is a novelty |
| 23:21.31 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: It's done, analysing it ... |
| 23:21.33 | tyranix | http://www.dkfz-heidelberg.de/spec/linux/modeline/ |
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| 23:22.18 | k31th | Guys i need to create a subdomain, and and mx record for it, is a sub domain a cname in bind terms ? |
| 23:22.38 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: With lspci i think i not find it, the first on, give a good result, ES1688 |
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| 23:23.08 | ritalin | HOWE DO I INSALL KDE? |
| 23:23.10 | thingfish | ooh ritalin |
| 23:23.24 | dvm1981 | !tell -about kde |
| 23:23.26 | stew | ritalin: apt-get install kde |
| 23:23.30 | Menoz | hi all! can someone tell me how can I make a mirror of a debian repository? What program should I use? Rsync? |
| 23:23.31 | Azar | eeyore-: he knows the exact module name for his sound card ex18xx_audio I think |
| 23:23.34 | thingfish | !tell ritalin about install kde |
| 23:23.43 | thingfish | I love ritalin. |
| 23:23.58 | ritalin | I LOV U 2 |
| 23:24.02 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:24.05 | stew | michael: if you don't see any modelines spit out for 100hz then you will have to provide a custom modeline, or maybe your card doesn't support any such mode |
| 23:24.05 | azeem | I LUV U ALL |
| 23:24.13 | rambo3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.14 | eeyore- | dvm1981: OK good, so it found at least one card. is this the sound card you have your speakers plugged into? (in other words, how many sound chips/cards/whatever do you have, onboard + pci?) |
| 23:24.15 | Azar | !luvme |
| 23:24.17 | thingfish | we love you too, azeem. |
| 23:24.24 | ritalin | Is debian as fast a gent0? |
| 23:24.37 | rambo3 | on 100 m or maraton? |
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| 23:24.39 | azeem | ritalin: only if you compile with -funroll-loops |
| 23:24.40 | dvm1981 | Azar: eeyore- It's a laptop |
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| 23:24.47 | eeyore- | Azar: we're trying to do different things. ok, so he may know the module name, but that doesn't mean much if alsa doesn't agree |
| 23:24.50 | Azar | dvm1981: ok |
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| 23:24.55 | dvm1981 | Azar: eeyore with ESS1688 |
| 23:25.01 | nima | firefox crashes whenever i visit a site that uses flash |
| 23:25.04 | Azar | eeyore-: ah right |
| 23:25.06 | eeyore- | dvm1981: so it's the only sound device. good. |
| 23:25.08 | ritalin | Is debian as fast a gent0? |
| 23:25.14 | michael | tyranix: stew, okay my card supports it, definitly. but with gtf I have created this: gtf 1280 1024 100 |
| 23:25.15 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: yes |
| 23:25.17 | Azar | !gentoo |
| 23:25.17 | michael | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.17 | azeem | ritalin: only if you compile with -funroll-loops |
| 23:25.17 | dpkg | it has been said that gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or ... |
| 23:25.20 | ritalin | THEY SAY IT ISNT AS FAST |
| 23:25.20 | michael | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.27 | michael | sry |
| 23:25.28 | thingfish | ritalin: no need to use all caps. |
| 23:25.31 | azeem | ritalin: please do not write in all caps |
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| 23:25.35 | ritalin | s0ry |
| 23:25.40 | eeyore- | dvm1981: so what's wrong with it? try cat'ing something to the sound device then. one sec, busy with a user. |
| 23:25.42 | mwright1night | whats newer woody or sarge |
| 23:25.44 | azeem | or in leet-speak, for that matter |
| 23:25.49 | azeem | mwright1night: sarge |
| 23:25.50 | nima | i tried both the official plugin and libflash, neither work, but it doesnt crash when i dont have a plugin installed |
| 23:25.55 | Azar | ritalin, no it is not fast |
| 23:25.56 | ritalin | wh@t d03s debian use for gcc? |
| 23:26.03 | mwright1night | coool |
| 23:26.04 | azeem | gcc |
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| 23:26.11 | ritalin | i mean how they compile it? |
| 23:26.11 | Azar | ritalin: if you need gentoo fast, >> visit #gentoo |
| 23:26.14 | ritalin | -O3? |
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| 23:26.24 | azeem | ritalin: check the source package |
| 23:26.24 | tyranix | michael: Did it work? |
| 23:26.26 | stew | ritalin: i've never even heard of anyone having believable benchmarks either way |
| 23:26.27 | cisse | ritalin: ls -lh /usr/bin/gcc |
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| 23:26.31 | azeem | ritalin: apt-get source --diff-only gcc-4.0 |
| 23:26.34 | coza | hi all |
| 23:26.34 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: The sound would not sound, or i forget another thing to do, that really |
| 23:26.39 | Dwonis | ritalin: gcc --version |
| 23:26.50 | tyranix | michael: nice, I didn't know about gtf. |
| 23:26.55 | shwag | in linux, using the free command, does buffers include disk buffers? if so..how is that different from disk cache? |
| 23:26.57 | coza | need some helpifne1 could helpme please |
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| 23:27.01 | ritalin | what about ubuntu? |
| 23:27.06 | ritalin | is if as fast? |
| 23:27.10 | azeem | ritalin: ask #ubuntu |
| 23:27.11 | thingfish | !tell coza about ask |
| 23:27.12 | tyranix | michael: Hmmm but there are no limits given there. |
| 23:27.22 | kspath | !ubuntusmitevomit |
| 23:27.23 | Azar | new word in my dict: helpifne1 |
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| 23:27.25 | tyranix | michael: With that online tool, I could specify the max clock rate so it wouldn't exceed it. |
| 23:27.33 | stew | ritalin: find some benchmarks online, we don't have any |
| 23:27.36 | coza | sorry |
| 23:27.39 | Dwonis | rambo3: heh! |
| 23:27.41 | michael | tyranix: unfortunatly I dont know where to add this line and how to restart X without restarting... |
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| 23:27.52 | michael | tyranix: hmm I cant contact that site you handed out |
| 23:27.55 | thingfish | no need to be sorry, coza - it was meant to help you get started. |
| 23:27.56 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: I try with for examp 'xmms' and the player does nothing when i press play. The progress bar show nothing, he do nothings, so it's looks then that it's not my sound card that have troubles ? |
| 23:28.17 | coza | I have a problem with my linux installation its on a fujisiemens laptop it doesnt seem to recognise the built in mouse, i have installed ubuntu |
| 23:28.19 | ritalin | so debian s the best for desktop/warez? |
| 23:28.25 | eeyore- | dvm1981: i recall your discussion about xmms. i'm not dealing with it right now. |
| 23:28.35 | tyranix | michael: Really? I just visited it. Weird. |
| 23:28.39 | ritalin | is it hard tp oinstall? |
| 23:28.42 | thingfish | coza: you'll have to ask in #ubuntu - we don't support ubuntu or its users here. |
| 23:28.43 | azeem | ritalin: just try it out |
| 23:28.47 | Azar | coza this is #debian, works different than ubuntu >>> go to >>> #ubuntu |
| 23:28.47 | kspath | ritalin: Do you know what a troll is? |
| 23:28.54 | ritalin | kspath: what? |
| 23:28.56 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: I have try with other players but nothings done here... |
| 23:29.03 | chaedaeX | ritalin: there's no need for warez |
| 23:29.08 | coza | oops sorry findin it hard to get into places with no mouse ill try again thanks neway guys |
| 23:29.12 | thingfish | ritalin: a troll is someone just out to cause trouble. |
| 23:29.12 | rambo3 | did you add user to audio dvm~ |
| 23:29.16 | shining | ritalin: I think debian is nicely suited for warez |
| 23:29.24 | stew | michael: looks like -x in gtf would create a modeline for you to try |
| 23:29.24 | thingfish | coza: good luck. |
| 23:29.26 | ritalin | jajajaja |
| 23:29.37 | Azar | ritalin = gentoobie |
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| 23:29.42 | wathek | pnpdump is used for what ? |
| 23:29.43 | robin_z | thingfish: no it isnt |
| 23:29.45 | shining | ritalin: but it's a bit hard to install. you need to be a real haxor for doing it |
| 23:29.48 | michael | tyranix: so try creating the modeline and try it??! |
| 23:29.53 | SerajewelKS | would placing a TV next to my computer be a bad idea? |
| 23:29.58 | ritalin | ive read art pf intrusion |
| 23:30.01 | chaedaeX | aren't warez and the whole OSS concept pretty much fundamentally at odds? |
| 23:30.08 | michael | stew: yes, I have discovered gtf already, but dont know where to add?! |
| 23:30.14 | Worth | serajewelks: it might affect your productivity |
| 23:30.16 | ritalin | i owned my frioeds box like root baby |
| 23:30.19 | ritalin | ajjaja |
| 23:30.20 | stew | michael: the monitor section |
| 23:30.24 | thingfish | *plonk* |
| 23:30.28 | SerajewelKS | Worth: i mean as far as magnetic fields vs the hard drive |
| 23:30.37 | Worth | serajewelks: how close is it? |
| 23:30.37 | Azar | hehe |
| 23:30.40 | dvm1981 | rambo3: Yes i have look today for it. and that is right |
| 23:30.41 | chaedaeX | why steal crumbs on the sidewalk when you can have a banquet? |
| 23:30.42 | SerajewelKS | Worth: one inch? |
| 23:30.54 | thingfish | ritalin, I was predisposed to like you, on account of your nick, but you're a tard. go away. |
| 23:30.55 | kspath | omg |
| 23:31.19 | ritalin | thingfish: :( |
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| 23:31.23 | tyranix | michael: http://pastebin.ca/38615 |
| 23:31.23 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:31.36 | eeyore- | dvm1981: ok, done with the user. now you. try "cat some-file > /dev/dsp" |
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| 23:31.41 | Worth | serajewelks: I don't think it will cause any harm, but I can't guarantee anything without (a lot) more info |
| 23:31.56 | eeyore- | dvm1981: hopefully "some-file" is a 2 or 3K file. not too big. |
| 23:32.19 | wathek | what's the difference between ohci and ehci ? |
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| 23:32.32 | lips | hi all, i'm new to debian, i installed system today, played with mail server setup and everything is fine but now i want to switch the computer off... and even linux bible cannot tell me how to do it from within console |
| 23:32.33 | SerajewelKS | Worth: =/ |
| 23:32.42 | SerajewelKS | lips: poweroff |
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| 23:32.44 | Azar | eeyore what if he is not in the audio group? |
| 23:32.44 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: A music file so less ? |
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| 23:33.09 | lips | SerajewelKS, command not found |
| 23:33.20 | SerajewelKS | lips: yeah uhm, you need to be root |
| 23:33.28 | michael | tyranix: I got max clock 300 .... can you create another modline? have you tried yet? |
| 23:33.30 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: I think that i have not suchs one so less, i have here ONE MP3 file here on the laptop, juste one :-( |
| 23:33.30 | lips | ok :-) now i get it |
| 23:33.33 | lips | thanks |
| 23:33.42 | SerajewelKS | lips: obviously |
| 23:33.53 | tyranix | michael: Hmmm I'm not sure I'd use the output from Xorg unless you know using an invalid modeline cannot damage your monitor (since it has nothing to prevent bad values). I just generated a modeline for 12080x10204 @ 2000 Hz and it let me.... |
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| 23:34.01 | tyranix | err use the output from gtf |
| 23:34.02 | SerajewelKS | lips: we don't want Random User Joe shutting your box down, now do we? |
| 23:34.04 | humboldt | how can I easily create a deb of an app which I made from a tar.gz package? |
| 23:34.10 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: Can i try it with a file of +- 4MB ? |
| 23:34.16 | humboldt | a former version of the package exists in debian. |
| 23:34.17 | lips | SerajewelKS, absolutely right |
| 23:34.29 | tototo | got a parition quick erased by the window install ( it deleted 2 partition at the same time still dunno why) i try to recreate the partition header with testdisk , but got an error with the size of my hdd (weird) so I was looking for a soft that ould scan a part of the hdd and copy the file it found like some for the fat/ntfs but 4 ext3 |
| 23:34.30 | stew | humboldt: /msg dpkg mg |
| 23:34.31 | Azar | dvm1981: just download a small mod file |
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| 23:34.47 | tyranix | michael: I'll have to see where to put modelines. Back in older XFree86, I had to use modelines (it didn't auto detect like it does now). So I forget what the format looks like now. :) |
| 23:34.51 | michael | tyranix: well, but I know that my monitor is able to handle 100Mhz at 1280x1024 , 32bit/24bit |
| 23:34.57 | SerajewelKS | tototo: try gpart |
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| 23:35.16 | michael | tyranix: stew just said, it has to be put in the monitor section |
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| 23:35.25 | Azar | dvm1981: http://www.modarchive.com/ download a small mod file |
| 23:35.25 | SerajewelKS | tototo: not exactly what you're describing (it's more like testdisk) but it's worth a shot |
| 23:35.34 | dvm1981 | Azar: a 'mod' file, hoela, i have here 'gAtEs' bugg. I not know this type of file |
| 23:35.42 | dvm1981 | Azar: Really thx |
| 23:35.52 | eeyore- | dvm1981: just "dd if=/dev/urandom os=random-bytes bs=1k count=4" |
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| 23:36.17 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: To create an audio file ? |
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| 23:37.06 | Azar | dvm1981: it seems it gonna take you several days to install configure something usually done in less than one hour: pay attention and do EXACTLY what eeyore- tells you ok? |
| 23:37.29 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: Right, i take you're suggested, sorry Azar, i would like to play a little bit with 'dd' but also look on the website :-) |
| 23:37.37 | lips | SerajewelKS, strange: it says that all process are killed, last message is "power down" but machine is still running. this is compaq proliant dl380 with smart array scsi discs (maybe this matters) |
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| 23:37.50 | stew | dvm1981: forget the website |
| 23:37.52 | tyranix | michael: I'm reading this thread ("How to change resolution/refresh rate in Xorg"): http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html |
| 23:38.03 | SerajewelKS | lips: might not have an ACPI/APM-compatible BIOS, or linux can't detect one |
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| 23:38.16 | Azar | yeah forget, eeyore- pointed you to another option |
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| 23:38.53 | dvm1981 | Azar: Yes, that's right, i must be set the importants things first, then playing ... |
| 23:38.55 | Dwonis | lips: or you don't have ACPI or APM support enabled (you can only have one or the other enabled at a time) |
| 23:38.57 | partuffe | do you know if dual core of AMD is support by debian ? |
| 23:39.04 | cisse | partuffe: of course it is |
| 23:39.06 | lips | SerajewelKS, what should i do with it? |
| 23:39.07 | sylvisj | partuffe: Yes, just use a SMP kernel. |
| 23:39.13 | dvm1981 | stew : Set it in my fav, i not know about mod |
| 23:39.39 | partuffe | SMP ? |
| 23:39.43 | stew | !smp |
| 23:39.44 | dpkg | rumour has it, smp is (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.phy.duke.edu/brahma/smp-faq/, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4's, or ... |
| 23:39.50 | eeyore- | dvm1981: you have a random file. now, dump that to /dev/dsp device. please. |
| 23:39.51 | SerajewelKS | lips: not sure =/ |
| 23:40.00 | eleftherios | can someone please tell me what's the current version of mysql-server on sarge? |
| 23:40.05 | lips | SerajewelKS, if this is not making any difference other than requiring me to manually switch off, i do not care,m this will be set up in my basement soon and left running forever (i hope) |
| 23:40.06 | sylvisj | partuffe: What kernel version are you running? |
| 23:40.31 | partuffe | nothing now .. i know linux it's preferatly to read doc before install it ;) |
| 23:40.31 | tyranix | michael: Hmm I see different output from that site vs. gtf. |
| 23:40.32 | stew | someone should try and figure out what sound drivers dvm1981 has loaded, i have made a few failed attempts |
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| 23:40.53 | sylvisj | partuffe: Are you on Stable or Testing? |
| 23:40.57 | dvm1981 | stew : ESS1688 |
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| 23:41.08 | stew | dvm1981: that's not the name of a driver |
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| 23:41.15 | tyranix | michael: In gtf, dot clock 190.96 @ 1280x1024 = 100 Hz vertical refresh rate. With that online site, 1280x1024 @ 190.96 clock = 86.34 Hz refresh rate. |
| 23:41.24 | partuffe | sylvisj, nothing no i haven't install linux i take information and read doc before |
| 23:41.29 | dvm1981 | stew: Sorry, |
| 23:41.37 | SerajewelKS | lips: yeah basically linux is halting but not telling the BIOS to power down |
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| 23:41.53 | stew | dvm1981: put the output of "lsmod" into a pastebin |
| 23:41.57 | sylvisj | partuffe: Ahh. It'll work fine in both Stable and Testing, just make sure you 'apt-get install' a kernel ending in -SMP after setup is done. |
| 23:42.00 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: Problem to do the dd command. he will not |
| 23:42.11 | lips | SerajewelKS, but hard drives seem to be still spinning (this is raid device) |
| 23:42.19 | SerajewelKS | how would i pipe something over scp, e.g. 'cat foo | gzip -9 | scp user@host:dir -' |
| 23:42.24 | SerajewelKS | scp doesn't like reading from stdin |
| 23:42.31 | eeyore- | dvm1981: what did you type in, and what did you get back. don't just say, it doesn't work. say, this is how it didn't work. |
| 23:42.33 | lips | SerajewelKS, is it safe to switch it off manually? |
| 23:42.34 | SerajewelKS | lips: right, because the BIOS doesn't know to power them down |
| 23:42.35 | stew | SerajewelKS: you want ssh not scp |
| 23:42.40 | SerajewelKS | lips: at this point probably, yeah |
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| 23:42.47 | stew | SerajewelKS: what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 23:42.49 | partuffe | ok |
| 23:42.53 | partuffe | thank sylvisj |
| 23:42.55 | SerajewelKS | lips: unless RAID requires some special shutdown procedure |
| 23:42.59 | eeyore- | dvm1981: i normally don't tell people to do things that doesn't work. i try to be specific. please give me the same courtesy and be specific in return. |
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| 23:43.09 | SerajewelKS | stew: tar and bzip a directory to a remote server without storing it locally |
| 23:43.14 | partuffe | and pciexpress with dual core ;) ? |
| 23:43.15 | lips | SerajewelKS, this is something i do not know... |
| 23:43.22 | SerajewelKS | stew: so something like sshfs would work, but i figure there has to be a simpler solution |
| 23:43.27 | partuffe | if you prefer nvidia with dual core ... |
| 23:43.32 | sylvisj | partuffe: PCI express works fine. What video card are you worrying about? |
| 23:43.33 | SerajewelKS | lips: hit the power switch. if you smell smoke, you did something wrong. =) |
| 23:43.49 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: unrecongnised option os=random-bytes |
| 23:44.04 | tototo | SerajewelKS, the msg error i got from testdisk : "check the hdd size hd jumpers settings , bios detection, os limitation, .. the following partition can't be recovered... the hardisk seems to be too small !!" |
| 23:44.04 | eeyore- | dvm1981: of=random-bytes |
| 23:44.05 | sylvisj | partuffe: nVidia is strongly recommended for Linux, but a few ATi cards work as well. |
| 23:44.17 | eeyore- | dvm1981: sorry, typo on my part |
| 23:44.18 | dvm1981 | i chat on the laptop, it's really not evident to switch from on to another |
| 23:44.22 | michael | tyranix: hmm I'm confused now ... hehe |
| 23:44.40 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: No problem, you help me, |
| 23:44.42 | eeyore- | dvm1981: see? that's much quicker to get an answer |
| 23:44.53 | SerajewelKS | tototo: tried gpart? |
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| 23:45.03 | partuffe | ok thank sylvisj |
| 23:45.05 | litage | does Sun make their SPARC processors? |
| 23:45.12 | SerajewelKS | stew: exactly how would i cat something into a file using ssh? |
| 23:45.13 | benjamindees | where can I get mono for Sarge? |
| 23:45.19 | eeyore- | litage: does it matter? they're nearly dead :-) any day now. |
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| 23:45.25 | tototo | SerajewelKS, that's why i was more looking for a file recovery than a partition one |
| 23:45.26 | k-man_ | what would be a good filesystem for a mail server that stores mail in maildir format (and accessed by imap) |
| 23:45.27 | litage | eeyore-: i'm just curious |
| 23:45.40 | SerajewelKS | tototo: have you tried gpart? |
| 23:45.40 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: Yes, you are right man, an the most here ;-) i little bit slow and not an proffesional chatter |
| 23:45.45 | partuffe | but i havent understand all .. i need to activate option in a normal kernel or it's a special kernel with SMP ? |
| 23:45.46 | SerajewelKS | tototo: that is a yes-or-no question |
| 23:45.47 | eeyore- | litage: do they design the chip? yes. do they fab them? not *sure* |
| 23:45.59 | tototo | SerajewelKS, i am *man* it |
| 23:46.02 | lips | SerajewelKS, sure :-))) i bought this server yesterday so i had no time to create emotional reliatnship yet |
| 23:46.06 | dvm1981 | When i chat, it's ONLY here :-) be the good people, |
| 23:46.06 | SerajewelKS | tototo: so run it |
| 23:46.07 | litage | thanks eeyore- |
| 23:46.15 | mikeo1 | been out of the loop with debian lately.... has the 64 bit version gained support? |
| 23:46.19 | SerajewelKS | lips: that's always good ;) |
| 23:46.24 | michael | tyranix: so ... you wanna try this modline? |
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| 23:46.28 | mikeo1 | like does it work well or still lots of unsupported software |
| 23:46.46 | lips | SerajewelKS, but this beast obviously has some sort of (very noisy) personality :-))) |
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| 23:46.48 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: I not know how to dump that file, scrolling back but not finding |
| 23:47.00 | tyranix | michael: Not me. :) I've got too much stuff open to restart X. |
| 23:47.07 | sylvisj | partuffe: You'll have no problem with PCI express on Stable or Testing. |
| 23:47.11 | lips | SerajewelKS, (no smoke) |
| 23:47.31 | michael | tyranix: hmm can I easily restart X without logging off etc? |
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| 23:47.39 | mikeo1 | like if i were to install debian on and amd x2 would you recomend the normal version or the 64-bit |
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| 23:47.55 | tyranix | michael: Well I don't use xdm/gdm/kdm, so all I would have to do is exit X and then do startx again. |
| 23:48.06 | lips | SerajewelKS, whats the difference beetwen shutdown -h now and poweroff ? |
| 23:48.20 | SerajewelKS | stew: nm |
| 23:48.22 | eeyore- | litage: i would guess Sun uses TI to fab the SPARC/UltraSPARC chips. at least that's what this http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3333001 says |
| 23:48.23 | sylvisj | tyranix: Ctrl + Alt + Backspace ^^ |
| 23:48.25 | thingfish | mikeo1: I would experiment with 64-bit, but I'd figure on using 32-bit. |
| 23:48.36 | SerajewelKS | lips: nothing |
| 23:48.36 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: /dev/dsp < random-file, permission denied |
| 23:48.39 | tyranix | sylvisj: that's what I said. :) exit X. |
| 23:48.41 | stew | SerajewelKS: you want something like tar cj /some/path/to/archive | ssh user@remotehost tee /path/to/archive.tar.bz2 >/dev/null |
| 23:48.46 | sylvisj | :P |
| 23:48.46 | eeyore- | dvm1981: cat random-bytes > /dev/dsp |
| 23:48.47 | litage | thanks again eeyore- |
| 23:48.56 | SerajewelKS | stew: what's the tee for |
| 23:48.57 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: Ok ;-) |
| 23:49.21 | lips | SerajewelKS, ok, thanks |
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| 23:49.44 | mikeo1 | so i should stick to the 32 bit for now if i want stuff to work right? |
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| 23:49.45 | SerajewelKS | lips: except that 'poweroff' is faster to type and easier to remember |
| 23:49.51 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: It do nothing, no sound, no error |
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| 23:50.11 | tyranix | SerajewelKS: tee will copy stdin to a file and pass it along to stdout (so you can use it in another process in the pipe). |
| 23:50.59 | stew | SerajewelKS: "tar cj /directory" creates a tarball and dumps it to stdout, you pipe that into ssh, the ssh command runs tee which takes stdin and dumps it to a file, tee also dumps to stdout which is why you pipe back into /dev/null |
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| 23:51.14 | stew | SerajewelKS: there might be something more elegant than tee but i'm not sure |
| 23:51.25 | michael | tyranix: Dot Clock Frequence: 247.50 MHz .. this should be fine, right? |
| 23:51.33 | SerajewelKS | stew: | ssh foobar.com 'cat > foo' ? |
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| 23:52.00 | SerajewelKS | stew: problem with '| ssh foobar.com tee file >/dev/null' is that the > redirects locally, meaning that the data will be uploaded and downloaded again |
| 23:52.00 | tyranix | michael: Yeah, 'gtf 1280 1024 100' uses a dot clock of 190.96. |
| 23:52.03 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: When excecute the command, the computer looks like to do it, but no sound or no erno are give |
| 23:52.06 | SerajewelKS | stew: i guess.. anyway 'cat > file' works |
| 23:52.29 | stew | SerajewelKS: | ssh user@remotehost /bin/bash -c "cat > /somefile" |
| 23:52.32 | michael | so what am I supposed to do? which one is better?? |
| 23:52.33 | eeyore- | dvm1981: you didn't hear sound right? ok, next thing, describe to me the screen of alsamixer. i want to see the columns pcm/master described |
| 23:52.35 | SerajewelKS | tyranix: i know what tee does, just saying that the stdout of the tee is going nowhere (or rather, in this case it would be sent over the network again) |
| 23:52.58 | BoldStrike | can anyone here help me with setting up a mail server? |
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| 23:53.15 | eeyore- | BoldStrike: that's a pretty big task |
| 23:53.22 | tyranix | SerajewelKS: hmmm just responding to the question 'what's the tee for'. :) |
| 23:53.39 | SlayerXP | BoldStrike: i'm available for private consultancy, sure. |
| 23:53.42 | BoldStrike | i've setup postfix using maildirs before |
| 23:54.11 | BoldStrike | eeyore- you think it'd be better to use something like dovecot? |
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| 23:54.14 | SerajewelKS | tyranix: yeah i was asking what it's for, not what it does =) |
| 23:54.38 | eeyore- | BoldStrike: so why not stick with postfix? |
| 23:54.39 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: I have not hear any sound, alsamixer the volume, the gauges are all on the top, but not micro, when i set the volume of the micro at max. There are an noise echo. I have play with the other bars, volume 100% up down change the volume |
| 23:54.46 | SerajewelKS | so yeah, this is what i came up with for my backups: tar -c some/ folders/ | bzip2 -9 | gpg -es | ssh me@public.host 'cat > backup.tar.bz2.gpg' |
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| 23:54.51 | SerajewelKS | seems to work ok |
| 23:55.13 | BoldStrike | eeyore- guess i could, but i've heard that using pop/imap is better, plus it's accessible by web |
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| 23:55.24 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: It looks when i set the micro volume, i hear me speaking ... |
| 23:55.25 | eeyore- | dvm1981: what is in the bottom boxes of master/pcm columns? |
| 23:55.35 | Azar | dvm1981: if you would only TRY to think what you see or do: mic is for microphone do you NEED that? |
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| 23:56.06 | dvm1981 | Azar: No needs at this moment, constatations |
| 23:56.17 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: Color ? red |
| 23:56.22 | tyranix | SerajewelKS: Since you mentioned backups, do you know of a good system? I think bacula looks nice but my preferred format (DVD+R) isn't exactly stable yet. :( |
| 23:56.34 | tototo | SerajewelKS, it's running , i prefered to rtfm before ;) |
| 23:56.39 | eeyore- | dvm1981: do you see OO or MM? which? |
| 23:56.43 | SerajewelKS | tototo: aight |
| 23:56.44 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: The volume there are really good, to next thing |
| 23:56.48 | eeyore- | Azar: actually that's useful |
| 23:56.51 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: no |
| 23:56.55 | SerajewelKS | tyranix: tar is nice =) |
| 23:56.56 | stew | heh |
| 23:57.03 | eeyore- | Azar: it tells us that the mic is working and the speakers physically work :-) |
| 23:57.11 | Azar | ah :) |
| 23:57.12 | eeyore- | dvm1981: dude |
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| 23:57.21 | eeyore- | dvm1981: dude ... |
| 23:57.21 | tyranix | SerajewelKS: hehe well I'm trying to make it automated and reduce the number of full copies. |
| 23:57.35 | BoldStrike | what is a good mail server? |
| 23:57.44 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: Sorry |
| 23:57.48 | SerajewelKS | tyranix: apt-cache search incremental backup #might have good stuff |
| 23:57.49 | eeyore- | dvm1981: the columns are composed of a bar, a box at the base of the bar, a number (indicating volume level) and a name |
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| 23:58.00 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: yes, |
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| 23:58.07 | eeyore- | dvm1981: i want you to tell me what's in the little box at the base of the bar, just above the number |
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| 23:58.36 | jarango | What is the command to avoid blanking of the screen when the computer has been inactive ? |
| 23:58.42 | tyranix | SerajewelKS: Yeah, I've done that. Unfortunately bacula looks like the best tool out there but it doesn't support DVD+R (only beta and it requires a patch to dvd+rw-tools which I think is unnecessary). |
| 23:58.45 | stew | jarango: /msg dpkg screen blanking |
| 23:58.49 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: There is nothing, possible ? |
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| 23:59.08 | SerajewelKS | tyranix: 'Backupninja is a silent flower blossom death strike to lost data.' oh i love open-source. |
| 23:59.13 | tyranix | hehe |
| 23:59.24 | eeyore- | dvm1981: what do you mean there's nothing? it's either OO or MM in a box |
| 23:59.26 | Paula69 | hi |
| 23:59.37 | eeyore- | dvm1981: which column are you looking at? |
| 23:59.55 | dvm1981 | eeyore-: not of the both, just 100 and botton of it Master, PCM |
| 23:59.57 | dvm1981 | ... |
