| 00:00.03 | treyh0 | why are some packages like cyrus22-imapd not yet even in unstable? |
| 00:00.11 | treyh0 | now that even cyrus23 is out |
| 00:00.23 | treyh0 | (22 is in experimental) |
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| 00:00.39 | treyh0 | is experimental supposed to be for normal use? |
| 00:00.40 | treyh0 | :/ |
| 00:00.49 | fli7e | i have an error on a debian install right now: "Debootstrap Error / Couldn't download libblockfile1." is it safe to ignore this error, is it fixable, and/or how can i fix it? |
| 00:00.58 | fli7e | im installing from dvd |
| 00:01.03 | stew | treyh0: absolutely not |
| 00:01.18 | Quinn_Storm | does anyone know a good RSS ticker? just something simple that reads feeds and can be configured to launch a browser when I click a link? I want to display it in a small window on one of my desktops |
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| 00:01.44 | treyh0 | the packages.qa.debian.org site appears down (trying to view developer info for cyrus22-imapd) |
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| 00:02.11 | double_c | Sonny: sorry, can't help you, those options work fine here |
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| 00:02.24 | stew | !maint cyrus21-imapd |
| 00:02.26 | dpkg | cyrus21-imapd: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> |
| 00:02.41 | treyh0 | guess i should contact henrique to see if i can help even tho i'm not even a debian developer |
| 00:02.45 | Sonny | double_c: do you use umask? |
| 00:02.52 | bonden | could someone recommend a good dvd-writer/burner program that's exist for etch? |
| 00:02.52 | k31th | wat does ia64 stand for?? |
| 00:03.10 | double_c | Sonny: not in fstab, no |
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| 00:03.27 | stew | k31th: intel architecture-64 |
| 00:03.31 | fli7e | k31th, just a guess: intel architecture 64bit? |
| 00:03.40 | fli7e | :) |
| 00:03.45 | jvw | treyh0: worksforme |
| 00:04.31 | treyh0 | jvw: http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/cyrus22-imapd.html is not blank for you? |
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| 00:04.50 | treyh0 | its alright, hopefully henrique will respond to my email ;) |
| 00:04.52 | jvw | treyh0: it is, but blank != site down |
| 00:05.00 | jvw | treyh0: the package is removed |
| 00:05.01 | stew | treyh0: try http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/cyrus21-imapd.html (a package in debian) |
| 00:05.08 | treyh0 | woah |
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| 00:05.23 | tyranix | war92: Do you have a similar entry in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? "Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" |
| 00:05.36 | treyh0 | i wonder why it's removed :/ |
| 00:05.47 | brian111 | i got a hardware question, if i have 768 mb PC3200 would it be worth it to add 256 PC2100 or is a gig of PC2100 slower than 768 PC3200 |
| 00:05.47 | jvw | treyh0: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=291018 |
| 00:06.04 | treyh0 | jvw: thanks |
| 00:06.07 | jvw | treyh0: RoM; Name change to cyrus-imapd-2.2 |
| 00:06.14 | jvw | #348751 |
| 00:06.23 | treyh0 | cool |
| 00:06.24 | fli7e | i have an error on a debian install right now: "Debootstrap Error / Couldn't download libblockfile1." is it safe to ignore this error, is it fixable, and/or how can i fix it? |
| 00:06.24 | fli7e | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.59 | jvw | fli7e: are you using sarge, or...? |
| 00:07.03 | fli7e | 3.1 |
| 00:07.05 | fli7e | whatever that is |
| 00:07.07 | fli7e | stable |
| 00:07.08 | bonden | please recommend any dvd-r burner program for etch |
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| 00:07.10 | ludovicus | brain fart here, how do i remove ln |
| 00:07.17 | ludovicus | symbolic links |
| 00:07.24 | stew | ludovicus: with rm |
| 00:07.25 | tyranix | bonden: dvd+rw-tools |
| 00:07.27 | jvw | fli7e: that's sarge indeed. Could be it... |
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| 00:07.29 | virtu | hi.. how can I know what is my USB ADSL modem device on /dev????? |
| 00:07.42 | fli7e | thanks Jvw, i'll try a re-burn |
| 00:07.48 | jvw | fli7e: you can repair probably by after you're having a basic system, setting up internet |
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| 00:07.56 | bonden | tyr: something more GUI'ish? |
| 00:07.58 | jvw | fli7e: and then apt-get install it |
| 00:08.08 | jvw | fli7e: if it works, no need to re-burn |
| 00:08.13 | fli7e | jvw, its failing during "installing the base system" |
| 00:08.21 | fli7e | this is a fresh install from dvd |
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| 00:08.38 | ribnitz | hello people. |
| 00:08.43 | jvw | ok, then you've got bigger problems... if you're experienced, you might be able to workaround, otherwise, I'd suggest indeed to make a new dvd |
| 00:09.14 | stew | fli7e: wait, this an error setting up your debian system? or debootstrapping another debian from withing your freshly setup system? |
| 00:09.18 | Juan25 | hi |
| 00:09.21 | x-x- | checksum the iso :) |
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| 00:09.23 | ribnitz | What do you use to listen to different audio formats (wav,mp3,ogg, flac) Anything more recommended than XMMS? |
| 00:09.32 | fli7e | stew, setting up debian |
| 00:09.40 | Juan25 | channel debian in spanish ? |
| 00:09.47 | useruser | #debian-es |
| 00:09.49 | tyranix | ribnitz: I currently use xmms but I might be switching to moc (console). |
| 00:09.54 | stew | fli7e: yeah, then stick with what jvw is saying |
| 00:10.18 | Juan25 | channel debian in spanish ? |
| 00:10.20 | useruser | ribnitz: i use mplayer |
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| 00:10.24 | bonden | well, I need a GUI to burn DVDs - any recommendation? I used one program weeks ago, but of course I don't remember the name. it was real good, though |
| 00:10.26 | useruser | !tell Juan25 about spanish |
| 00:10.34 | x-x- | k3b |
| 00:10.36 | ribnitz | I am experiencing some strange audio decodeing behaviour (short pauses) since I moced from 2.6.11 to 2.6.15.. |
| 00:10.36 | fli7e | stew, the problem is i cant get past this error. its happening right after i set up partitioning, and indicates a failure |
| 00:10.39 | jvw | fli7e: there are sarge cd's out there that are broken btw, but if you downloaded recently, that shouldn't have hurt you... 3.1r0a or 3.1r1a should be good |
| 00:10.43 | x-x- | Juan25: no se |
| 00:10.50 | fli7e | its r1 |
| 00:10.51 | ribnitz | bonden: k3b. |
| 00:10.54 | bonden | x-x: k3b doesn't exist for etch |
| 00:10.54 | Juan25 | x-x-, jajaj |
| 00:10.58 | tyranix | bonden: so it's still installed? dpkg -l | grep -i dvd |
| 00:11.11 | bonden | tyr: might just be! =) |
| 00:11.46 | x-x- | bonden: grownisofs and cdrecord? |
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| 00:11.49 | bonden | tyr: halleluja! thanks man! graveman is beatiful programs name! |
| 00:12.08 | tyranix | bonden: ahh never heard of it. I'll check it out. |
| 00:12.09 | fli7e | jvw, i think im going to try an network install or something... im almost out of blank dvds |
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| 00:12.21 | x-x- | graveman is not very good-.- |
| 00:12.25 | ribnitz | is it just me, or odes ogg sound better than mp3, at the same bitrate? |
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| 00:12.33 | tyranix | ribnitz: sounds better to me too |
| 00:12.42 | x-x- | i'd rather stick with growisofs and cdrecord |
| 00:13.06 | k31th | do i need to type any thing to use 2.6 kernel at boot ? |
| 00:13.07 | tuv | how do i abort dpkg-reconfigure??? |
| 00:13.10 | k31th | (installing now) |
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| 00:13.19 | x-x- | k31th: linux26 |
| 00:13.24 | k31th | thanks |
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| 00:13.43 | ribnitz | k31th: It might be standard on the newer installs. |
| 00:13.56 | ribnitz | k31th: but linux26, or expert26. |
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| 00:14.17 | ribnitz | tyranix: found flac yet? |
| 00:14.20 | tuv | dpkg-reconfigure wouldn't abort with CTRL-C or CTRL-D, what else could stop that ##$@? |
| 00:14.47 | x-x- | kill pid |
| 00:14.49 | tyranix | ribnitz: Yeah. :) I rip everything to flac and then encode as ogg for my ogg player. |
| 00:14.49 | ribnitz | tuv: crl-z, kill , kill -9 |
| 00:15.13 | tuv | i'm connecting remotely.. CTRL-z doens't do a thing |
| 00:15.13 | ribnitz | tyranix: ogg player?- you mean portable cd player? |
| 00:15.16 | tyranix | ribnitz: I can't wait until vorbis supports bitpeeling. That will be very nice. |
| 00:15.28 | tyranix | ribnitz: nope, flash player that plays mp3 and ogg. |
| 00:15.31 | ribnitz | tyranix: bitpeeling? |
| 00:15.51 | xored | iam trying to do some NFS exports but somehow my syntax is wrong : /home/storage 192.168.178.25 anoniuid(rw,sync)=1000 |
| 00:15.52 | ribnitz | tyranix: Cant afford those. have a thing that plays cds and mp3 cds |
| 00:16.16 | virtu | anyone here use accessrunner for usb adsl modems?? |
| 00:16.20 | tyranix | ribnitz: Yeah bitpeeling is where you encode ogg vorbis at a high bitrate and then you can on demand get a lower quality version. I think the point is that you can have a streaming music server all from the same source (rather than multiple encodings). |
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| 00:16.51 | sylvisj | Whats a good ISO burning app for Etch? |
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| 00:16.58 | tyranix | ribnitz: IIRC it's still a blue sky dream. There's no support for bitpeeling yet. |
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| 00:17.22 | ribnitz | tyranix: SO given a 256 bit sample, for 128 bit you'd take every second, for 64 bit every 4th sample.. |
| 00:17.23 | tyranix | sylvisj: growisofs/cdrecord |
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| 00:17.36 | Zvpun | where can I find helix-player? I found a DSA talking about a package helix-player but I cant find the package. |
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| 00:17.50 | ribnitz | sylvisj: cdrdao.. |
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| 00:18.09 | tyranix | ribnitz: hmmm I think it's more sophisticated than that. If you take every second then there would be gaps in the playing. |
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| 00:18.13 | ribnitz | Zvpun: thats unoffical, probably marillat |
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| 00:18.42 | ribnitz | tyranix: Add a buffer on the receiving end, add interpolation.. |
| 00:18.42 | Zvpun | ribnitz: how is that. I thought helix is open source |
| 00:19.04 | anapivirtua | night all |
| 00:19.07 | tyranix | Zvpun: helix-player is in unstable. |
| 00:19.14 | ribnitz | Zvpun: might need some non-free stuff to build. |
| 00:19.28 | azeem | Zvpun: http://packages.debian.org/stable/graphics/helix-player |
| 00:19.31 | azeem | ribnitz: eh, no |
| 00:19.42 | sylvisj | Hmm, how do I mount a CD drive with a blank disk? |
| 00:19.48 | ribnitz | azeem: "might", not "does". |
| 00:19.53 | tyranix | Zvpun: But from what I remember, it's not all that useful. You can't play realvideo with it. |
| 00:19.58 | ribnitz | sylvisj: you dont. |
| 00:20.02 | stew | sylvisj: if the disk is blank there is no filesystem to mount |
| 00:20.07 | sylvisj | Yeah nvm it's burning anyway |
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| 00:21.05 | Zvpun | azeem: I thought packages.debian.org is down |
| 00:21.19 | stew | Zvpun: only the search functionality |
| 00:21.25 | azeem | Zvpun: the search stuff, the static pages are still up |
| 00:21.27 | ribnitz | can k3b transcode flac to mp3? |
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| 00:22.49 | ribnitz | darn, k3b doesnt. |
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| 00:23.33 | ribnitz | Is there a nice graphical app to transocde a bunch of flacs to mp3? |
| 00:24.47 | tyranix | ribnitz: I don't think there are any mp3 encoders (even in non-free). |
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| 00:25.20 | ribnitz | tyranix: there's lameenc. |
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| 00:25.33 | ribnitz | tyranix: there is mpg321. |
| 00:25.55 | ribnitz | the question is just: is there a nice graphical interface? |
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| 00:27.54 | tyranix | ribnitz: hmm lameenc isn't in Debian and mpg321 is just a player isn't it? |
| 00:27.58 | rredd4 | creating new partitions for new debian install. is ext 3, 5345.1 MB and swap of 1520.8 MB (760mb memory) ok size for debian sarge? |
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| 00:28.45 | tyranix | rredd4: IMHO that's overkill on swap. The 2x RAM rule went out a long time ago. :) I'd leave enough for swsusp though. |
| 00:29.03 | tyranix | err suspend to ram |
| 00:29.14 | andax | i'm looking for a command that will turn of the monitor.. :) is there a thing for that? |
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| 00:29.28 | typewriter | is there a debian pkg for popular perl cpan modules? |
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| 00:29.49 | rredd4 | tyranix: how much for swap then is ok? what is swsusp? |
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| 00:30.08 | amphi | rredd4: I have 2GB swap for 1.5GB ram, to accommodate suspend to disk (swsusp) |
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| 00:30.47 | Jeeves_Moss | all: I need networking help!!! |
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| 00:31.12 | cusco | shoot! |
| 00:31.13 | virtu | hi.. how can I know what is my USB ADSL modem device on /dev????? |
| 00:31.18 | amphi | Jeeves_Moss: could you be more vague? ;) |
| 00:31.33 | rredd4 | amphi: never heard of swsusp... so 1GB is ok.. this will take care of the swsusp thing also? |
| 00:31.34 | cusco | virtu: try dmesg |
| 00:32.14 | virtu | hmm... |
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| 00:32.18 | amphi | rredd4: you need _more_ swap than ram, if you want to be able to suspend to disk with all ram + some swap used I think |
| 00:32.19 | virtu | any tips? |
| 00:32.24 | virtu | like /dev/usb/??? |
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| 00:33.05 | ale_ryu | hi guys |
| 00:33.14 | sylvisj | Is there a way to remove a directory and make it remove read-only files WITHOUT ASKING ME? I'm removing wine source... lot of y + enter |
| 00:33.35 | double_c | sylvisj: rm -rf |
| 00:33.39 | sylvisj | Thx |
| 00:33.49 | double_c | sylvisj: make sure you are in the correct directory! |
| 00:34.09 | sylvisj | I know, thanks |
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| 00:34.41 | TuGGer | Hi. I've just 'installed' Debian to hdc with guided partiotioning. I choose not to load LILO, but do it manually since Mandriva is on hda. I cannot seem to get the right syntax for the Debian entry. So far I've tried: other="/dev/hdc1" root=/dev/hdc1 label="debian". But the problem is if I enter boot=/boot/vmlinux or boot=/vmlinux, it says it cannot be found. What am I doing wrong? Any help appreciated. |
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| 00:35.18 | mischko | How do I make it so that uninstalling postfix does not install exim? |
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| 00:35.38 | azeem | mischko: it will be tricky not having a mail transport agent |
| 00:35.44 | double_c | TuGGer: try image=/vmlinuz |
| 00:35.46 | azeem | mischko: why do you want to uninstall postfix? |
| 00:35.48 | mischko | I will reinstall postfix shortly. |
| 00:35.58 | double_c | TuGGer: the symlink is in the root directory |
| 00:36.01 | ale_ryu | I know I shouldn't be asking for help here, but I've got a really annoying problem with aMSN. I can't Use my profile anymore! Whenever I try to login using it an alert window tells me it's already being used by someone else! And no one is using my profile! Is there a lock or something that I can remove to solve this??? |
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| 00:36.21 | TuGGer | double c: is the rest OK? |
| 00:37.03 | gilles | what are the .awk files ? How to run it ? |
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| 00:37.24 | azeem | mischko: I guess there is some --force-foo option for that, but this is really discouraged |
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| 00:38.03 | mischko | azeem, why is it discouraged? |
| 00:38.08 | rob__ | rc.freenode.net |
| 00:38.09 | TuGGer | double c: is that a typo "/vmlinuz"? If not that's the problem: I typed 'vmlinux' |
| 00:38.14 | double_c | TuGGer: not sure, it's been a while since I set it up. I just noticed you were pointing to /boot/vmlinuz, debian puts it in the root directory by default |
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| 00:38.39 | double_c | TuGGer: nope, vmlinuz on my machine |
| 00:39.08 | TuGGer | double_c: I'll give it another whirl. Thanks. |
| 00:39.24 | double_c | TuGGer: boot mandrake, then take a look at the debian filesystem, check the name |
| 00:39.54 | TuGGer | double_c: Good idea |
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| 00:40.18 | azeem | mischko: using --force- options is discouraged in general |
| 00:40.25 | mischko | Ok. |
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| 00:41.40 | nima | is there any differance between using sarge and stable? |
| 00:41.43 | k31th | Anyone run Debian on Dell Servers ? |
| 00:41.51 | k31th | SC1425 ? |
| 00:42.08 | diana | !tell k31th about anyone |
| 00:42.14 | diana | !tell k31th about ask |
| 00:42.15 | mith | noone ever |
| 00:42.17 | k31th | lol ok... point taken |
| 00:42.18 | sylvisj | sylvisj@debian:~/wine-0.9.6-winehq.orig$ patch -p0 < ../wine-wow_fixes.patch | patching file libs/wine/mmap.c | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] y | patching file loader/preloader.c | Hunk #1 FAILED at 110. | 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file loader/preloader.c.rej <-- How do I fix this? |
| 00:42.33 | double_c | nima: not at the moment. sometime in the future, there will be a new stable version, and sarge will be obsolete |
| 00:42.47 | nima | double_c: aparently, it does make a differance |
| 00:42.50 | diana | nima: sarge is stable. |
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| 00:43.13 | nima | i changed sarge to stable in my sources.list, and i got a couple more updates |
| 00:43.17 | diana | nima: If you mean in your sources.list file though, "sarge" could mean only use sarge...do not upgrade to the next version of stable(etch) when it comes out. |
| 00:43.23 | tyranix | sylvisj: open up the *.rej file and look for the conflict markers. |
| 00:43.40 | diana | nima: depends on the mirror, what is the mirror? |
| 00:43.48 | nima | i think what k31th means is "does debian run well on dell servers?" |
| 00:44.08 | k31th | i did |
| 00:44.23 | mith | k31th: it works fine. |
| 00:44.41 | k31th | SC1425s ? atm it wont boot |
| 00:44.41 | sylvisj | tyranix: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1651 |
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| 00:44.46 | k31th | i suspect its the media |
| 00:45.00 | mith | k31th: must be, since I have a rack full of them running debian. |
| 00:45.08 | k31th | nice |
| 00:45.17 | k31th | mith: any sc1425s ? |
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| 00:45.50 | mith | k31th: i just said I had a rack full of them |
| 00:46.02 | ale_ryu | Ok, I also have a problem with alsa, I installed kernel 2.6.12 manually(using dpkg) and now everytime I reboot I have to run alsaconf to get the sound to work, I've tried everything, dpkg-reconfigured all the sound packages, removing some oss packages, alsactl store, everything, but it just won't work properly. Any suggestions? |
| 00:46.07 | k31th | mith: i thought you ment dells... |
| 00:46.13 | mith | (well, actually, several racks, but about that many are running debian) |
| 00:46.15 | rixth | Whenever I try and play someithng in Rhythmbox, I get this in the terminal: http://pastebin.com/524917 I have likbatk*m libgail*, gst-plugins and have run gst-register |
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| 00:46.36 | ribnitz | hello |
| 00:46.58 | ribnitz | how do I get a VBR MP3 file, given a FLAC file? |
| 00:47.19 | double_c | ð |
| 00:47.25 | double_c | oops |
| 00:47.51 | ribnitz | double_c: looks one of those nordic special chars, sounds like th in english, no? |
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| 00:48.14 | double_c | ribnitz: I'm running irssi inside screen, alt-p caused that :) |
| 00:48.31 | ribnitz | double_c: screen is evil ;) |
| 00:48.43 | nima | NUH UH |
| 00:48.46 | double_c | it works fine using <esc>, but I forget |
| 00:48.47 | tyranix | double_c: heh I get a different character (on my end at least): ð |
| 00:49.00 | double_c | that lokes the same here |
| 00:49.04 | double_c | (in screen) :) |
| 00:49.15 | ribnitz | tyranix: thats also what I got, though alt-p works fine. |
| 00:49.27 | sylvisj | tyranix: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1651 <-- content of that file |
| 00:49.46 | bbrazil | double_c: what terminal are you using? |
| 00:49.53 | double_c | an xterm |
| 00:50.12 | bbrazil | double_c: crtl-leftclick, meta sends escape |
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| 00:50.46 | tyranix | sylvisj: If that's all the conflict is, just update the line with whatever is newer (I assume the patch is newer than the file it is patching). |
| 00:51.06 | double_c | bbrazil: esc followed by the key seems to work fine too |
| 00:51.12 | nima | is there any way to get rid of anything gui related? |
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| 00:51.22 | sylvisj | tyranix: Yep. Thanks |
| 00:51.30 | bbrazil | double_c: yes, but that should fix it for alt, which is easier to use |
| 00:51.54 | double_c | ok, lets try it. apologies for any wierd characters... |
| 00:52.16 | double_c | bbrazil: bloody hell, never seen that menu before! |
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| 00:52.39 | nima | im adapting a desktop for use as a headless server |
| 00:52.46 | tyranix | double_c: control + 3rd mouse is another menu for fonts. |
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| 00:52.54 | k31th | double_c: watsup i belive we spoke in the past a long time ago |
| 00:52.56 | double_c | just found it :) |
| 00:53.10 | double_c | k31th: Did we? My memory is terrible :) |
| 00:53.25 | k31th | double_c: i may of had a stupid nick like... ste41th |
| 00:53.33 | double_c | hehe |
| 00:53.35 | tyranix | hehe as opposed to? |
| 00:53.39 | tyranix | just kidding |
| 00:53.42 | k31th | :p |
| 00:53.47 | maloy | haha |
| 00:53.53 | double_c | i hate thinking of nicknames, so I stick with this one |
| 00:53.53 | maloy | hey |
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| 00:54.01 | maloy | anyone know how to kill a running jbuilder thread proc ? :/ |
| 00:54.09 | nima | i just use my real name, double_c |
| 00:54.12 | nima | :-) |
| 00:54.19 | tyranix | nima: that's no fun |
| 00:54.21 | k31th | fair one |
| 00:54.41 | double_c | nima: I'm 38 years old, I ought to have grown out of using a handle really :) |
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| 00:55.10 | gummibearsaregoo | aah, one character too long |
| 00:55.19 | tyranix | gummi bears are goo? Where have you been keeping them? :/ |
| 00:55.34 | dvs | they are goo |
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| 00:55.59 | double_c | nima: but you could fit gummybearsarse :) |
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| 00:56.26 | nima | i could spell it gumy or something |
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| 00:56.40 | double_c | but then it would sound like goomy |
| 00:56.54 | nima | so, thats cool :-) |
| 00:57.18 | double_c | only you would know what it meant :) |
| 00:57.38 | tyranix | double_c: ummm I think the "bears" part would pretty much give it away. :) |
| 00:57.56 | double_c | I guess so |
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| 00:58.05 | double_c | are they those little gelatin sweets? |
| 00:58.38 | luite | I'm trying to do a netinstall (latest iso), but the installer cannot find my hard drives. when it detects the hardware, it complains that some modules are not available (including some ide and scsi modules). The hardware is pretty common (intel e7230 chipset with ich7r southbridge). what should I do? |
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| 00:59.47 | Coweater | luite: etch? |
| 00:59.47 | dvs | luite: ICH7 is too new for Sarge |
| 00:59.56 | luite | no, sorry, sarge |
| 00:59.57 | luite | ah |
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| 01:00.14 | luite | hm, ok, didn't realize that it was so new |
| 01:00.45 | luite | can I install sarge with just a newer kernel/installer? |
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| 01:01.11 | luite | it's a server (obviously, e7230 is a server chipset) and I don't want to run experimental software |
| 01:01.15 | rixth | Whenever I try and play someithng in Rhythmbox, I get this in the terminal: http://pastebin.com/524917 I have likbatk*m libgail*, gst-plugins and have run gst-register |
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| 01:08.17 | k31th | this is a joke. it wont boot my debain cd lol iv tried a heap of cds now |
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| 01:09.26 | pawdro | is sarge version from repos K3B suitable for etch? |
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| 01:09.42 | virtu | ok.. after to load the correctly module for my adsl usb modem, what I have to do to get connect? |
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| 01:10.14 | karsten | What's the convention for supplying X resource values at execution time? Usually "xcmd -xrdb 'resource: value'" right? |
| 01:10.17 | dvs | virtu: apt-get install pppoe |
| 01:10.42 | virtu | dvs: ok but it will look for a ethernet card.. and my modem is an USB one |
| 01:10.45 | deadcat | karsten: you mean xrdb? |
| 01:10.59 | virtu | dvs: i think that I will need the usb devide for my modem |
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| 01:11.46 | dvs | virtu: I thought you already loaded the module for your modem? |
| 01:12.35 | pawdro | how can should i install k3b in etch? |
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| 01:12.54 | virtu | dvs: I am getting right now the new kernel to compile it... i really dont knwo which is the correctly driver for my modem... I load usbnet, CDCEther module |
| 01:13.03 | pawdro | because dependencies from sarge aren't fixed |
| 01:13.08 | rredd4 | installing sarge using 14 cd's ... when i boot from cd1, it says, uncompressing linux booting the kernel. Then all that happens is my pc reboots. I tried linux26, it did the same thing. I have dial up |
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| 01:13.28 | dvm1981 | In the 'Debian Reference' section 2.2.2 there are noted to use 'dpkg-deb(8)', but it not exist, right ? |
| 01:13.31 | rredd4 | can i use the net install cd to replace what cd1 is doing? |
| 01:13.37 | virtu | I will see if there is an cxacru module to load... any of this must be my correct module... after that I dont know which is my usb device for my modem |
| 01:13.39 | virtu | :( |
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| 01:13.51 | rredd4 | but not via the web |
| 01:14.12 | dvs | rredd4: You should have checked the MD5 sum before you burned the image |
| 01:14.21 | rredd4 | hmmm |
| 01:14.59 | tyranix | karsten: xcmd -xrm 'resource string'. |
| 01:15.13 | double_c | rredd4: the old installer allowed you to specify where your sources were, I think it allowed you to use a CD. Not used the new installer though |
| 01:15.24 | virtu | dvs... do you have any tip for me to find my correct usb device for my modem? |
| 01:15.28 | dvm1981 | So 'dpkg-deb()' |
| 01:15.30 | dvs | virtu: Nope |
| 01:15.38 | tyranix | karsten: You use xrdb for the static values, 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults'. |
| 01:15.39 | virtu | dvd... or when I load the correct module it will show me something? |
| 01:15.46 | dvm1981 | So 'dpkg-deb(8)' = 'man 8 dpkg-deb' ?? |
| 01:15.49 | rredd4 | so can i use the net install cd to do the same thing that cd1 does without the using the web to install sarge? |
| 01:15.54 | ghost | hello everyone, i have a small problem i just installed debian on this PC and im getting an error in xfree86 "no screens found" in the log its "no devices found".. i grep'd dmsg and all i saw was via so i picked that for my vid chipset no deals no go w/ the s3 either |
| 01:16.07 | deadcat | karsten: what you working on? some nice colors? |
| 01:16.09 | luite | is it possible to download a sarge installer disc with a more recent kernel than the default 2.6.8? |
| 01:16.12 | ghost | any ideas how to fix this |
| 01:16.31 | dvs | luite: Only to install the etch beta CD |
| 01:16.32 | double_c | rredd4: the old net installer allowed you to use CD's, I have no experience with the sarge installer though |
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| 01:16.59 | ghost | are you talking about the sarge netinstall cd? |
| 01:17.06 | dvm1981 | ghost: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ? |
| 01:17.08 | luite | dvs: hm, can I install sarge directly, or would I have to use a separate debootstrap for that after installation? |
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| 01:17.21 | rredd4 | double_c: ok.. maybe someone else could help please.. |
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| 01:17.32 | dvs | luite: What do you mean by "directly"? |
| 01:17.44 | ghost | dvm1981: thats what i did but how can i figure out what driver i need |
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| 01:17.55 | dvm1981 | ghost: lspci |
| 01:17.56 | luite | dvs: install sarge packages with the etch beta cd |
| 01:17.56 | double_c | ghost: , rredd4 is asking if he can use the sarge netinstall cd to bootstrap an installation from CD's that he already has |
| 01:18.04 | lur_ | hello |
| 01:18.16 | dvm1981 | ghost: To look what pci there are, you use S3 right ? |
| 01:18.37 | ghost | double_c: im almost positive you can, when you set up apt it asked youwhwere you wanna get the archive from you can just pick CDROM |
| 01:18.37 | lur_ | is it possible to get data to play as binary signals through the output of a soundcard? |
| 01:18.39 | dvs | luite: Oh. That might be a problem if you want to go back to sarge. |
| 01:18.45 | dvm1981 | ghost: Otherwise use the VGA to begin |
| 01:18.56 | ghost | dvm1981: ok thx ill bb |
| 01:19.08 | double_c | ghost: the old installer does for sure, I didn't want to mislead him coz I haven't used the sarge installer |
| 01:19.22 | dvm1981 | ghost: The standart one that work with all video card, no perfomance, but thats the next step then |
| 01:19.25 | luite | dvs: guess it's easier to just boot knoppix and install sarge manually with debootstrap then, with a custom kernel |
| 01:19.44 | rredd4 | ghost: so i just dl net installer.. then somewhere tell it to install from the cd's? |
| 01:19.44 | karsten | tyranix: Thanks, it was the -xrm option. But rxvt doesn't do it. |
| 01:19.50 | dvs | luite: I never tried it myself so I can't say. |
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| 01:20.01 | karsten | tyranix: I know about xrdb, I'm trying to do some on-the-fly testing. |
| 01:20.05 | luite | ok, I'm going to try it now, wish me luck ;) |
| 01:20.15 | deadcat | karsten: cant |
| 01:20.17 | tyranix | karsten: yeah I figured that. :) |
| 01:20.25 | karsten | deadcat: rxvt w/ different bg colors, colorized ls bleads into them. |
| 01:20.28 | double_c | rredd4: I bet you a beer that it works :) |
| 01:20.39 | rredd4 | hic... |
| 01:20.43 | double_c | :D |
| 01:20.50 | deadcat | karsten: ss when done (= |
| 01:21.05 | karsten | deadcat: So it seems. xterm lets you do it. man rxvt for colorn recoding. |
| 01:21.08 | karsten | deadcat: 'ss'? |
| 01:21.12 | rredd4 | have to dl net install cd.. on dial up... ugggg |
| 01:21.22 | karsten | rredd4: Have someone mail you it. |
| 01:21.24 | deadcat | karsten: ss = screenshot right? thats what most people type.. |
| 01:21.24 | tyranix | karsten: hmm doesn't it support -bg? xterm lets you specify some resources with explicit arguments. |
| 01:21.25 | dvs | !beer rredd4 |
| 01:21.33 | karsten | rredd4: postal, not email. Seriously, it's faster. |
| 01:21.34 | double_c | rredd4: that's why I was reluctant to say "yes, it will work" |
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| 01:21.44 | pawdro | can i install k3b in etch somehow? |
| 01:21.53 | pawdro | besides compiling it |
| 01:21.54 | pawdro | ? |
| 01:22.24 | karsten | tyranix: I *am* specifying bg/fg. Problem is that colorized 'ls' defaults are *really* hard to read with a lot of the resulting options. They tend to be pure colors, less saturated would be much easier to see. |
| 01:22.28 | markybob | i'm trying to parse the ips from auth.log and i tried using awk but the ips are in different spots on the line depending on what it logged. is there a better way of doing this? |
| 01:22.29 | rredd4 | i have been waiting for paid for dvd's from someone who was on the deb site.. i called him today.. said he would do it.. just tired of waiting.. |
| 01:22.33 | karsten | deadcat: Oh, ok. |
| 01:22.54 | tyranix | karsten: Ah, I see. |
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| 01:23.14 | magyar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.19 | bbrazil | markybob: are you by any chance trying to analyze ssh logs for brute forces? |
| 01:23.28 | markybob | bbrazil: yes |
| 01:23.29 | double_c | karsten: you could always remove the alias that colourises ls output, bit drastic though |
| 01:23.39 | rredd4 | brb... |
| 01:23.42 | dvm1981 | Repeat: In the 'Debian Reference' section 2.2.2 there are noted to use 'dpkg-deb(8)', but it not exist, right ? |
| 01:23.42 | bbrazil | markybob: http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~bbrazil/code/brmon/ |
| 01:24.06 | bbrazil | markybob: note you'll need to set ssh's loglevel to verbose so that it'll give you ip addresses |
| 01:24.18 | bbrazil | markybob: otherwise you'd have to use hostnames from PAM |
| 01:24.32 | markybob | bbrazil: interesting. i'll take a look at your code. thanks :) |
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| 01:26.34 | xbmodder_lappy | Do you want to talk to nick's mom? |
| 01:26.50 | tyranix | Instead of you? Sure. |
| 01:27.07 | bbrazil | markybob: no problem. ssh_brute_finder hasn't caught any breakins on the 2 systems I'm running it on, put plenty of attempts |
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| 01:29.02 | karsten | deadcat: http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Images/termcolor.png |
| 01:29.19 | markybob | bbrazil: nice. another piece of software i hadnt heard of before. you've got some good stuff on that site |
| 01:29.26 | karsten | deadcat: ...that's a sampling of the colors I'm using. Just to differntiate terminals. |
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| 01:29.56 | deadcat | karsten: nice. is that a script to do that? |
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| 01:30.10 | tyranix | bbrazil: hmm I would use only public keys instead of passwords. That would prevent the brute forcing. Why would running John the Ripper regularly help? |
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| 01:30.27 | markybob | bbrazil: i see that ssh_brute_finder looks in /var/log/sshd.log ...on debian by default doesnt ssh log to /var/log/auth.log ? |
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| 01:30.52 | karsten | deadcat: No, just a set of wmaker menus which I've defined w/ entries for each of the fg/bg combos. |
| 01:31.15 | deadcat | damn |
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| 01:31.49 | bbrazil | markybob: yes, but this wasn't orginally written for a debian system |
| 01:31.55 | dna_ | how do i find out how much room is on all the devices in fstab? |
| 01:32.03 | markybob | bbrazil: i see. |
| 01:32.03 | karsten | deadcat: ? |
| 01:32.10 | deadcat | dna_: df |
| 01:32.13 | karsten | dna_: df |
| 01:32.20 | deadcat | karsten: i thought you use a script to gen all those terms. |
| 01:32.39 | karsten | deadcat: Point'n'click. wmaker's got persistent menus. |
| 01:32.58 | deadcat | o... boo |
| 01:33.02 | bbrazil | markybob: also on the debian system, I piped the logs into sshd.log so I could do daily rotation seperately via logrotate. real fun with syslogd's cronjobs |
| 01:33.12 | dna_ | thank you |
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| 01:33.32 | bbrazil | tyranix: you can brute force ssh keys, although the key space is a lot larger ;) |
| 01:33.44 | tyranix | bbrazil: well obviously, but no one is going to do that. :) |
| 01:34.46 | myren | how do i make an ext2 partition? |
| 01:34.47 | myren | erm |
| 01:34.48 | bbrazil | tyranix: I think my script will flag it if it even happens |
| 01:34.50 | myren | ext3 partition |
| 01:35.01 | myren | there is no mkext3fs afai can tell |
| 01:35.11 | bbrazil | myren: mkfs.ext3 |
| 01:35.23 | pipeline | myren: Nah, just use mke2fs -J |
| 01:35.24 | karsten | deadcat: http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Images/color-menus.png |
| 01:35.27 | myren | ah ha, that would be it |
| 01:35.35 | pipeline | myren: the -J makes it ext3 |
| 01:35.51 | karsten | deadcat: ... the ones with 'X' in the corner are pinned. So I can just open the menus, leave them open, and select each option. |
| 01:36.05 | dvm1981 | I look for somethings like 'babytrans' or an symilare translator |
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| 01:36.11 | dvm1981 | Any sugestions ? |
| 01:36.13 | karsten | myren: The mnemonis is that 'J' is the roman numeral for 3. |
| 01:36.21 | tyranix | karsten: are you really in that low of resolution? |
| 01:36.48 | dvm1981 | It's for on an 'Testing' machine, it seems that this packages are not there |
| 01:36.48 | karsten | tyranix: 120x10424 |
| 01:36.55 | karsten | tyranix: 1280x1024, rather. |
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| 01:37.11 | tyranix | oh ok, ss is 640x512 |
| 01:37.18 | karsten | tyranix: 50% rescale. |
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| 01:37.42 | tyranix | yeah, which makes it hard to read when I'm in 1280x1024. :) |
| 01:37.48 | deadcat | karsten: oh. so you haev to make the menu yourself right? |
| 01:37.58 | deadcat | tyranix: bragging eh? |
| 01:38.09 | dvm1981 | Repeat: In the 'Debian Reference' section 2.2.2 there are noted to use 'dpkg-deb(8)', but it not exist, right ? |
| 01:38.12 | tyranix | deadcat: err? no... |
| 01:38.16 | karsten | deadcat: Right. That was the somewhat tedious part. |
| 01:38.22 | dvm1981 | So 'dpkg-deb(8)' = 'man 8 dpkg-deb' ?? |
| 01:38.23 | deadcat | k |
| 01:38.27 | dvm1981 | right ? |
| 01:38.37 | karsten | deadcat: ... but wmaker menus are lispy, would be easy to script. |
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| 01:38.47 | NoOneYet | alguem aki fala brasileiro ? |
| 01:38.57 | Jmax | hi, how do i remove all new mail? |
| 01:39.05 | karsten | !br |
| 01:39.05 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 01:39.16 | karsten | Jmax: What email program? |
| 01:39.32 | Jmax | karsten: dunno, i think it's a local mail; no mta |
| 01:39.46 | karsten | deadcat: In actuality, I used WMaker's gui conf tool. |
| 01:39.52 | bbrazil | dvm1981: for GNU man, yes |
| 01:40.01 | karsten | Jmax: 'rm' should work just fine. Where is it? $HOME or /var/spool/mail ? |
| 01:40.25 | Jmax | whenever i open a term, i get "You have new mail". When i `cat /var/mail/jmax`, i see that a cronjob (man-update) is complaining of dangling symlinks |
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| 01:40.39 | SperMite | anyone use cdrecord in here? |
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| 01:40.42 | dvm1981 | bbrazil: So there is an error in the Debian Reference on the website i think. Must this announced to an maintainer so hi can correct ti |
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| 01:41.40 | bbrazil | dvm1981: looks like it, its section 1 on the sarge system I have here |
| 01:41.40 | Jmax | hm that worked |
| 01:41.40 | Jmax | thanks |
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| 01:43.18 | shadows | i'm having a new issue when using make-kpkg to build a pre-release kernel. :( |
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| 01:44.03 | Guerin | shadows: why are you trying to build prerelease kernels? |
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| 01:44.37 | shadows | Guerin: i usually run vanilla, but the current vanilla is missing some amd64 and usb fixes |
| 01:44.42 | shadows | http://debian.pastebin.com/524994 |
| 01:44.46 | shadows | output of make-kpkg |
| 01:45.05 | shadows | i can't tell if it's the name of the kernel that's causing a fuss, or the GCC versioning |
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| 01:45.20 | dvm1981 | david@neptune:~$ man 8 dpkg-deb |
| 01:45.20 | dvm1981 | No manual entry for dpkg-deb in section 8 |
| 01:45.20 | dvm1981 | See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available. |
| 01:45.22 | myren | with ext2, if there's one inode per 1 megabyte, does that mean every file takes up at least one meg? |
| 01:45.47 | myren | no, it cant mean that. wtf does it mean tho? |
| 01:45.55 | dvm1981 | Is that normal in the Debian reference he says 'dpgk-deb(8)'. |
| 01:45.56 | shadows | myren: it means that when you have 2048 inodes, if you use 2048 inodes, then you cannot create new files |
| 01:46.40 | myren | ooh |
| 01:46.41 | azeem | dvm1981: which section? |
| 01:46.46 | dvm1981 | 2.2.2 |
| 01:47.01 | shadows | Guerin: any ideas ;) ? |
| 01:47.02 | dvm1981 | An error ? |
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| 01:47.24 | azeem | debian reference? |
| 01:47.31 | azeem | dvm1981: do you have an URL? |
| 01:47.41 | dvm1981 | yep |
| 01:47.50 | dvm1981 | the lastest one http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-deb-format |
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| 01:48.23 | dvm1981 | on Debian website is ? |
| 01:48.25 | dvm1981 | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-deb-format |
| 01:49.01 | dvm1981 | If this is an error, could someone take his foots to change this erro ? |
| 01:49.29 | azeem | dvm1981: file a bug |
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| 01:49.33 | azeem | the package is debian-reference-en |
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| 01:49.55 | dvm1981 | azeem: yep, my first one then ;- |
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| 01:50.01 | dvm1981 | ;-) |
| 01:50.07 | cr3 | how can I determine the current version of debian I'm running? on redhat, I could output the file /etc/redhat-release. is there something similar on debian? |
| 01:50.12 | matthew | how do i set a static ip from a single command (not etc/networks file or reboot) |
| 01:50.19 | Phated | cr3: /etc/debian_version |
| 01:50.28 | azeem | dvm1981: there's always the first :) |
| 01:50.28 | dvm1981 | with bugrepport, i would like to try, i have some other erros found i think an would like to help |
| 01:50.52 | dvm1981 | azeem: Thank you to help me :-) |
| 01:50.58 | cr3 | Phated: for a minute there, I really thought you were kidding. but then, I decided to actually check and there was the file you just mentionned! |
| 01:51.05 | Phated | cr3: Heh. |
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| 01:51.14 | azeem | dvm1981: you can try to send a patch along if you want |
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| 01:52.05 | BillWolfe | Hi, I have a question about installing Subversion using a Package Manager. |
| 01:52.07 | dvm1981 | azeem: Yes but, that i have try to make for some other thing, with diff and so, but that i must learn, if you have an url to learn it ;-) |
| 01:52.13 | cr3 | Phated: and how can I determine the name of that version, like: woody, potato, etc. |
| 01:52.20 | azeem | dvm1981: not right now, sorry |
| 01:52.26 | azeem | I am busy with work |
| 01:52.49 | Phated | cr3: Hrm, there's something on debian.org - try googling for "debian codename" |
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| 01:53.03 | BillWolfe | I can find the package on Debian Stable, but when I search on Unstable (eg from Kanotix) I cant find Subversion. Why is that ? |
| 01:53.09 | dvm1981 | azeem: I understand, but i first begin with 'reportbug' so that exist me to begin with the begin, then i look to learn pathc :-) |
| 01:53.21 | azeem | dvm1981: yeah, that's good |
| 01:53.40 | dvm1981 | azeem: Debian are good :-) |
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| 01:53.47 | dvm1981 | ;-) |
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| 01:54.02 | deadcat | Phated: hows the ibook so far? |
| 01:54.03 | matthew | how do i set a static ip for eth0, is there a command similar to dhclient? |
| 01:54.06 | stew | !info subversion unstable |
| 01:54.13 | dpkg | subversion: (advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.2.3dfsg1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 903 kB, Installed size: 2908 kB |
| 01:54.14 | Phated | deadcat: Fabulous, thanks. :) |
| 01:54.25 | Phated | mtnman: ifconfig eth0 <address> |
| 01:54.28 | deadcat | Phated: got any translucent stuff with it? |
| 01:54.56 | deadcat | Phated: i got xcompmgr and transset with xorg. hahah hella nice http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/xwd_20060120_24392.png <- male nudity too by the way. |
| 01:54.59 | Phated | deadcat: Eh, dashboard? *flee* |
| 01:55.07 | deadcat | boo |
| 01:55.21 | Phated | Ehm, matthew too. ifconfig eth0 <address> should work. |
| 01:55.22 | deadcat | 95% of those dashboard widgets are junks |
| 01:55.32 | Phated | deadcat: Which is why I only use 5% of them. :) |
| 01:55.37 | deadcat | hahhaha |
| 01:55.40 | dvm1981 | i begin here with reportbug to fill a bug for the debian-reference-en section 2.2.2 'dpkg-deb(8)' |
| 01:56.32 | shadows | deadcat: are you the author of background image used in that screenie? |
| 01:56.35 | Phated | deadcat: :) |
| 01:56.41 | Phated | Wooo, male nudity! |
| 01:56.43 | deadcat | shadows: no. |
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| 01:57.14 | deadcat | Phated: with all those see-thru softwares. i figure i can look at those girls and see if their shirts will see thru or not hahha |
| 01:57.26 | Phated | deadcat: Hah. |
| 01:57.27 | rixth | Whenever I try and play someithng in Rhythmbox, I get this in the terminal: http://pastebin.com/524917 I have likbatk*m libgail*, gst-plugins and have run gst-register |
| 01:57.30 | shadows | deadcat: heh |
| 01:57.42 | Phated | deadcat: Eh, where'd you get that wallpaper? Is it free to use privately? |
| 01:57.50 | shadows | deadcat: yeah, i was going to ask the same thing |
| 01:58.02 | deadcat | shadows: hehe. we have dirty minds |
| 01:58.15 | BillWolfe | Stew, subversion: Don't understand !info . Is this some comand line thing ? bash doesn't recognise it. Me neither :-) |
| 01:58.16 | shadows | if it's SVG i'd like to see whom is producing that style |
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| 01:58.35 | shadows | most SVG stuff is like a box with some shading and a logo of a window manager |
| 01:58.35 | azeem | BillWolfe: it tells dpkg (the channel bot) to act on something |
| 01:58.41 | shadows | kind of boring home desktop fodder |
| 01:58.43 | stew | BillWolfe: that made the dpkg bot spit out the current version in unstable |
| 01:58.45 | rixth | deadcat, what the hell geeky screen setup do you have?! |
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| 01:58.55 | Phated | deadcat: Dood. LINK ME TO YOUR WALLPAPER. :) |
| 01:58.58 | azeem | well, ! tells it. info is one of the keywords |
| 01:58.59 | stew | BillWolfe: it shows that it does actually exist in unstable |
| 01:59.01 | deadcat | rixth: SCREEN |
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| 01:59.13 | deadcat | Phated: i can post it but i cant find the links |
| 01:59.14 | rixth | monitor then. |
| 01:59.15 | dvm1981 | So for the bug i would like to report, wish rate i must give for a error 'debian-reference-en' section 2.2.2 'dpkg-deb(8)' that not exist |
| 01:59.23 | myren | is there any way to force a re-resolve of a DNS address? |
| 01:59.24 | Phated | deadcat: Post it then :) |
| 01:59.37 | stew | dvm1981: the bug you should be reporting is that it is in section 1 not in section 8 |
| 01:59.55 | stew | dvm1981: so it should just be dpkg-deb(1) |
| 01:59.57 | dondelelcaro | dvm1981: and the bug severity is probably minor |
| 01:59.58 | myren | i had to apt-get install emelfm like 12 times before it finally stopped saying 404 errors |
| 02:00.01 | deadcat | http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/1280x1024/ |
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| 02:00.06 | Phated | \o/ |
| 02:00.13 | rixth | deadcat, what number of monitors do you have? |
| 02:00.15 | Phated | deadcat: Luv ya. |
| 02:00.20 | dvm1981 | stew: so i need not to fill a bug report ? |
| 02:00.27 | deadcat | rixth: 2 1280x1024 |
| 02:00.30 | deadcat | (= |
| 02:00.38 | rixth | Also, do you actually work with the transparency like that? I couldn't stand it, the text is so hard to read! |
| 02:00.39 | shadows | deadcat: thanks for looking that one up |
| 02:00.41 | deadcat | that IS a pretty nice bgimage... the yello pic |
| 02:00.48 | Phated | It's kickass. |
| 02:00.54 | deadcat | (= |
| 02:00.56 | myren | i just wanna know what we're going to do when we're running 2x1920x1080 |
| 02:00.59 | stew | dvm1981: its still a bug, but its not that it doesn't exist, its just in a different section |
| 02:01.04 | myren | how many video cards is that going to require? |
| 02:01.08 | Phated | myren: Squeal, that's what we're gonna do. |
| 02:01.13 | shadows | deadcat: do you have an idea of where it came from, or who the author was? |
| 02:01.16 | deadcat | i tried using gimp to brush the white shirt off her, but didnt work |
| 02:01.19 | shadows | deadcat: slightly off topic, sorry |
| 02:01.21 | myren | yeahhh. like little girls. |
| 02:01.28 | Phated | Quite so. |
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| 02:01.38 | deadcat | shadows: it was a wierd site. i can try to look it up. |
| 02:01.38 | dvm1981 | stew : yes,i have understand now so i give the info that you have give me. -> section 1 |
| 02:01.48 | myren | _wtf_ is this? how do I edit my gnome1 theme? |
| 02:01.51 | shadows | deadcat: i'm interested if there's an SVG to be had |
| 02:01.52 | deadcat | myren: ? you sick? |
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| 02:02.00 | shadows | if not, don't bother. thanks tough |
| 02:02.02 | deadcat | shadows: true |
| 02:02.06 | dvm1981 | and minor bug, the first on man that i fill :-) |
| 02:02.14 | myren | omg, i use GTK 1.2 because _its not supposed_ to be pretty |
| 02:02.30 | Phated | Heh. |
| 02:02.33 | deadcat | shadows: try http://www.pixelgirlpresents.com/ or deviantart? |
| 02:02.34 | myren | this fanciful colored scheme is making me sick |
| 02:03.24 | shadows | deadcat: heh heh. the hearts and purple colour scheme is setting off my "run away! run awayyyy!"-o-meter |
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| 02:03.52 | Guerin | myren: why are you using gui apps if you don't want chrome? |
| 02:03.55 | deadcat | shadows: where? |
| 02:03.59 | Phated | deadcat: Whoa, I did not know about pixelgirl. you++ |
| 02:04.02 | shadows | deadcat: pp presents |
| 02:04.05 | myren | frig it. all i really need is cp -au. copying from hard drive to hard drive |
| 02:04.07 | magyar | is there a way to add samba users when a system user is added? |
| 02:04.10 | deadcat | oh |
| 02:04.14 | shadows | :/ bug in sources for kernel ? http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-devel@lists.debian.org/msg228702.html |
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| 02:04.23 | shadows | i'm trying to compile the 2.6.16-rc1 from k.org |
| 02:04.28 | deadcat | Phated: i i think i was looking for porn and that popped up (= HAHAHAH |
| 02:04.29 | SerajewelKS | you know what sucks? when i read my textbooks and see double-quotes i instinctively look for shell variables in them... |
| 02:04.33 | Phated | magyar: -r, prolly, too. :) |
| 02:04.34 | shadows | anyone else have a success doing this using make-kpkg? |
| 02:04.35 | myren | Guerin: emelfm gives me a visual but non-chromatised view of my filesystems. i appreciate that. |
| 02:04.35 | Phated | EHM |
| 02:04.36 | Guerin | shadows: don't tell us about it - tell lkml |
| 02:04.39 | Phated | Damnit, I meant myren. |
| 02:04.44 | SerajewelKS | then i start thinking "they coulda used single quotes here" |
| 02:04.50 | myren | -a implies -r |
| 02:04.51 | Phated | deadcat: Hahahah. |
| 02:05.09 | shadows | Guerin: i'm not yet sure if you're capable of being helpful |
| 02:05.14 | amphi | SerajewelKS: heh |
| 02:05.29 | Guerin | shadows: that's because you're too stupid to realise what helpfulness is. |
| 02:05.35 | shadows | okay |
| 02:05.37 | shadows | not helpful |
| 02:05.40 | ghost | hello again, i still cant get this to work. the only way i get agui isif i use VGA and 8 bit and i cant see snot any ideas? |
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| 02:05.52 | ghost | 95% of the errors are no screen found |
| 02:06.07 | amphi | ghost: at least the vesa driver should work |
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| 02:06.14 | gravity | There's a zillion ways to do it, I just need to write the damn code |
| 02:06.19 | Guerin | shadows: 1. compiling rc kernels is not for people who can't fix build errors; 2. if you're not compiling debian sources, we can't really help you, but the people I sent you to can. |
| 02:06.23 | dvs | ghost: It's usually the monitor frequencies are not right |
| 02:06.39 | ghost | 800x600 @ 60hz |
| 02:06.50 | dvs | ghost: The horizontal and vertical ranges |
| 02:06.54 | Guerin | ghost: have you tries /msg dpkg set up x |
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| 02:06.54 | Guerin | ? |
| 02:06.55 | dvm1981 | The first one bug is filled and send :-) |
| 02:07.14 | ghost | i am now Guerin |
| 02:07.19 | Guerin | nice |
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| 02:07.25 | shadows | oh no, they're multiplying |
| 02:07.41 | m1ke_l | hi...not good with irc...isn't the a dmsg about cpu arch's here? |
| 02:07.51 | deadcat | man they got some nice bgimages.. very nice color settings |
| 02:07.59 | shadows | m1ke_l: i'm not sure i understand you |
| 02:08.12 | Phated | /msg dpkg cpu arch, prolly. |
| 02:08.19 | m1ke_l | isnt there a bot here that can answer a "which cpu" quest...i think thats it |
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| 02:08.26 | shadows | oh :) |
| 02:08.30 | shadows | thanks Phated |
| 02:08.41 | Guerin | m1ke_l: /msg dpkg 686 |
| 02:08.49 | Phated | Not sure what he's looking for, like the specific thing.. but meh. |
| 02:08.58 | shadows | yeah |
| 02:09.16 | Guerin | well |
| 02:09.26 | m1ke_l | sorry. I want to ask which arch is my chip, a p3. |
| 02:09.31 | Phated | Oh, 686. :) |
| 02:09.34 | shadows | Phated: are you familiar with using make-kpkg to build a linux kernel? |
| 02:09.36 | tyranix | dvm1981: Did you use diff for a patch? Usually people use either context or unified diffs: 'diff -ud originalFile newFile' or 'diff -cd originalFile newFile'. |
| 02:09.40 | Guerin | m1ke_l: x86, 686 specifically |
| 02:09.42 | Phated | shadows: I've done it before once or twice. |
| 02:09.47 | shadows | Phated: oh, hmm |
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| 02:09.50 | Guerin | m1ke_l: 386 will also work fine |
| 02:09.58 | shadows | i've got this soup command i whipped up, and use that for every new vanilla kernel |
| 02:10.05 | Phated | And...? |
| 02:10.07 | shadows | it's been working great for the last 10 or so kernel releases |
| 02:10.07 | m1ke_l | excellent....thanks. I didnt want to bother ya'll since i knew there was a bot to answer it. |
| 02:10.09 | dvm1981 | tyranix: No i have just filled in, i not know how to, but i really would like to learn it, an good url ? |
| 02:10.21 | jetscreamer | does reportbug send my email pw in clear text? |
| 02:10.23 | Phated | m1ke_l: One question would have sufficed ;) |
| 02:10.31 | Guerin | jetscreamer: depends on your mta settings |
| 02:10.36 | shadows | Phated: trouble is, it's not working on the release candidate sources. so i'm confused, is this a trouble with the rc sources or with the debian tools |
| 02:10.39 | shadows | y |
| 02:10.41 | ghost | bb |
| 02:10.44 | markybob | how do i get sed to output something from a file based on regexp? |
| 02:10.46 | m1ke_l | but i could learn about them all and wouldn't need to ask again! but thanks. |
| 02:10.46 | Guerin | jetscreamer: if your mta will relay over ssl, debian will accept it thus |
| 02:10.47 | shadows | err.. s/y/y\'know |
| 02:10.48 | dvm1981 | tyranix: It |
| 02:10.57 | Phated | shadows: Not a clue. I haven't tried to build a kernel in about a month. |
| 02:11.00 | jetscreamer | Guerin: it's a remote mta (my isp) |
| 02:11.00 | shadows | :) |
| 02:11.05 | shadows | oh hmm |
| 02:11.08 | dvm1981 | tyranix: It's looks be easy to do, the example you give, i try it :-) |
| 02:11.11 | Guerin | markybob: #bash |
| 02:11.12 | shadows | markybob: er? |
| 02:11.12 | dondelelcaro | markybob: depends on what you want to output |
| 02:11.16 | Phated | markybob: Why not grep -e? |
| 02:11.27 | shadows | aka egrep |
| 02:11.35 | Guerin | jetscreamer: then the answer is "how the fuck should we know what your ISP's mta will do?" |
| 02:12.06 | markybob | i want to output the ip addresses from a logfile. i tried awk, but the ip's are often in different places on the line, so it didnt always work. |
| 02:12.10 | Phated | shadows: Oh yeah. :) |
| 02:12.16 | jetscreamer | Guerin: no i want to know if reportbug, using my isp/mta, will send my password in clear text, from here on my box, to the mta at my isp |
| 02:12.25 | markybob | i have what i believe is a regexp that should match all ips, but i cant get it to work out. |
| 02:12.28 | jetscreamer | if that makes sense |
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| 02:12.39 | Guerin | jetscreamer: again: depends how your LOCAL mta is configured. |
| 02:12.39 | shadows | meanie. |
| 02:12.50 | Guerin | jetscreamer: and if your isp will accept encrypted smtp. |
| 02:12.52 | rixth | Whenever I try and play someithng in Rhythmbox, I get this in the terminal: http://pastebin.com/524917 I have likbatk*m libgail*, gst-plugins and have run gst-register |
| 02:13.03 | shadows | rixth: i'll have a look at the pb |
| 02:13.05 | shadows | 1 sec |
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| 02:13.09 | rixth | pb? |
| 02:13.10 | tyranix | markybob: are these numeric IPs? What does your regex look like? |
| 02:13.15 | jetscreamer | Guerin: reportbug is set up to use the remote not the local |
| 02:13.23 | myren | the difference between df -h and df -H is _so_ disappointing... 267 GB, 286 GB |
| 02:13.32 | markybob | treyh0: yes. ([[:digit:]]{1\,3}\.){3}[[:digit:]]{1\,3} |
| 02:13.39 | shadows | rixth: are you dist'ing stable, testing, or unstable? |
| 02:13.40 | dna_ | how do I take a group of files and make them into an iso so that I can makea bootable cd fromthem? |
| 02:13.46 | rixth | Testing |
| 02:13.52 | dvm1981 | Someone know where i can find a good explanation for making 'patch' ? |
| 02:13.52 | shadows | dna_: mkisofs command |
| 02:14.00 | shadows | dna_: if you want a gui, i would use k3b |
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| 02:14.10 | shadows | or maybe xcdroast if you want to go light |
| 02:14.13 | dna_ | shadows, thank you |
| 02:14.20 | rixth | dna_, if you are on GNOME, check out gnomebaker |
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| 02:14.29 | myren | And ext3 is taking up wwayy more space than reiser |
| 02:14.29 | shadows | dna_: plenty of easy to understand google'able answers |
| 02:14.31 | jetscreamer | so what i want to know is reportbug's behavior, not the mta's |
| 02:14.36 | tyranix | markybob: what tool are you using to do this with? Several regex standards :/ |
| 02:15.13 | astronut | what does "Can not get the ticket cache for root" mean w/ an SMB printer in CUPS? |
| 02:15.15 | Phated | POSIX, hopefully ;) |
| 02:15.16 | markybob | tyranix: i was trying to work with sed, but failed |
| 02:15.28 | BucWheat | can someone help me configure apcupsd to communicate with my APC RS1500 backup? it has usb cable |
| 02:15.30 | Guerin | jetscreamer: ok, here's how smtp works: reportbug passes the mail on to a local mta, which (in your case) relays to your isp's mta, which relays to the addressee. If reportbug can send direct to your isp, then IT is a mta; but I sincerely doubt that is the case. You almost ccertainly have a local mta installed, and how that is configured will dictate how the mail eventually reaches the ISP mta. |
| 02:15.34 | useruser | how can i unpack .sit files? |
| 02:15.41 | BucWheat | i'm getting error about it not being able to find backup unit |
| 02:15.45 | markybob | tyranix: any idea how to make sed output the ips within a file, no matter where its placement? |
| 02:15.46 | shadows | BucWheat: i just did that recently for an older UPS unit, i had trouble |
| 02:16.02 | shadows | BucWheat: no help from me :/ |
| 02:16.02 | BucWheat | in /var/log/syslog the kernel finds the device and everything |
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| 02:16.09 | dvs | BucWheat: What /dev entry did you set it to? |
| 02:16.14 | BucWheat | shadows no worries |
| 02:16.18 | shadows | useruser: there's a tool for that, called stuffit |
| 02:16.24 | Guerin | jetscreamer: but I think I can probably answer your question: if you haven't set up ssl or tls for smtp either with reportbug or with you local mta, then it won't be encrypted. If you don;'t know whether you have or not, then you haven't. |
| 02:16.24 | shadows | useruser: it's very un-free |
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| 02:16.28 | dvs | !lart shadows |
| 02:16.38 | kenny | good day everyone |
| 02:16.42 | shadows | dvs: ? |
| 02:16.42 | useruser | shadows: hm, no free clone? that's odd |
| 02:16.51 | BucWheat | dvs i didn't set it to any dev entry. i followed the help on apcupsd.com and i think that borked it even further because their help is based from RedHat (Fedora) |
| 02:16.57 | Guerin | useruser: because .sit is actually .shit |
| 02:17.02 | dvs | shadows: you should know how to set up a UPS! ;-) |
| 02:17.05 | BucWheat | let me undo what i did in /etc/udev/udev.rules |
| 02:17.17 | tyranix | markybob: Here's what I would use for perl (it's not that strict of a regex though because it allows for 999.999.999.999 ... you can extend it to remove that :) # if ($ip =~ /((?:\d{1,3}\.){3}(?:\d{1,3}))/) { |
| 02:17.21 | useruser | Guerin: ah, i knew there had to be a most excellent reason of that kind |
| 02:17.34 | shadows | dvs: i have cheap APC equipment that is failing now. it's on my list of things to upgrade with proper tripp-lite kit |
| 02:18.13 | tyranix | markybob: I rarely use sed or awk. I always use perl or python instead. Keeps me sane. :) |
| 02:18.13 | BucWheat | dvs Jan 27 02:19:17 localhost udev[3696]: configured rule in '/etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules[23]' applied, 'hiddev0' becomes 'usb/%k' |
| 02:18.30 | BucWheat | dvs this is what it says next: Jan 27 02:19:17 localhost udev[3696]: creating device node '/dev/usb/hiddev0' |
| 02:18.30 | synz | heh: gimp :Erroneous Nickname |
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| 02:19.03 | jetscreamer | Guerin: okie so enable the tls, and assuming that the remote wont barf on it, my pw won't be sent in the clear. all i care about is the pw. |
| 02:19.09 | shadows | useruser: uhhh, by the by, you won't effectively be able to use the contents of the sit file |
| 02:19.15 | jetscreamer | and all will be peachy |
| 02:19.19 | tyranix | markybob: And I wouldn't write it like that anyway. I always use verbose regex so I can comment it. Any sufficiently large regex is annoying to read. |
| 02:19.23 | shadows | useruser: unless it's just a plain packed file, versus a file with resource forks and junk |
| 02:19.37 | dvs | BucWheat: My settings are at http://pastebin.ca/38754 |
| 02:19.43 | shadows | useruser: those resource forks and things get lost when you unpack to a *nix filesystem AFAIK |
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| 02:19.50 | tyranix | markybob: pastebin a couple example lines you want to parse. |
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| 02:20.02 | dvm1981 | so i try to make a patch : 'diff -ud file_1 file_1_add > file_1_patch' is this correct ? |
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| 02:20.11 | rixth | I need a music player that features a library. Before you tell me to Google, I already have. |
| 02:20.18 | shadows | useruser: if you want something more useful, i'd suggest using basalisk II to install an image of an older 68k Mac OS (legalities here are kind of sketchy) |
| 02:20.23 | rixth | Something similar to Rhythmbox, which is similar to iTunes, |
| 02:20.29 | shadows | and then use the real Aladdin stuff-it program |
| 02:20.35 | BillWolfe | Thanks for the help, Bye Bye |
| 02:20.41 | gravity | rixth: quod-libet |
| 02:20.42 | shadows | appletalk that stuff back onto your host |
| 02:20.50 | dvs | BucWheat: use /dev/usb/hiddev0 instead of /dev/ups for a dev entry |
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| 02:21.07 | shadows | rixth: i don't know, Amarok has been the nicest i've used, bar none |
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| 02:21.23 | rixth | shadows, I'm a GNOME guy :) |
| 02:21.24 | odla | rixth: yay amarok is nice |
| 02:21.34 | tyranix | knew there was something wrong with you rixth |
| 02:21.35 | tyranix | :) |
| 02:21.39 | BucWheat | dvs what will happen if i disconnect ups then connect another hid device and then reconnect ups won't the hiddev change to hiddev1 ? |
| 02:21.39 | rixth | Hehe. |
| 02:21.45 | markybob | tyranix: for example http://pastebin.com/525034 |
| 02:21.52 | shadows | rixth: what does that have to do with what i'm saying |
| 02:21.55 | dvs | BucWheat: That's why I use udev ;-) |
| 02:21.59 | BucWheat | dvs how can i configure it so the ups is always mapped? |
| 02:22.00 | markybob | tyranix: but the ips wont always be the same |
| 02:22.05 | dvs | BucWheat: That's why I use udev ;-) |
| 02:22.09 | markybob | tyranix: so i want all ips no matter where on the line they happen to be |
| 02:22.10 | rixth | It's just that Rhythmbox has an issue, have been trying for a week but no one has been able to fix it. |
| 02:22.12 | BucWheat | dvs i have udev installed :) |
| 02:22.13 | gravity | quodlibet for evea |
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| 02:22.20 | useruser | shadows: oh well it's not that important |
| 02:22.22 | rixth | shadows, QT looks out of place in the GTK world. |
| 02:22.22 | dvs | BucWheat: Then make a new rule |
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| 02:22.24 | useruser | shadows: thanks anyway |
| 02:22.27 | BucWheat | dvs what files do i need to edit /etc/udev/rules.local? |
| 02:22.30 | odla | !start a wm ware |
| 02:22.31 | odla | !start a wm warr |
| 02:22.33 | odla | !start a wm war |
| 02:22.33 | dpkg | enlightenment bites! |
| 02:22.39 | odla | damn third try |
| 02:22.39 | tyranix | I just started using ion3 (thanks to kspath). I really like it. :) |
| 02:22.57 | dvs | BucWheat: No, make a new file in /etc/udev and link it to /etc/udev/rules.d |
| 02:22.59 | rixth | Musicmatch have a linux app. |
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| 02:23.03 | rixth | Musicmatch it is |
| 02:23.21 | BucWheat | dvs errr... i mean /etc/udev/rules.d/local.rules |
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| 02:24.03 | gravity | rixth: Is something wrong with quodlibet? |
| 02:24.04 | SerajewelKS | how would i change the default console font? are there any shorter fonts so more characters can fit on the console? |
| 02:24.14 | rixth | gravity, I couldn't find it |
| 02:24.27 | useruser | SerajewelKS: are you using a framebuffer? |
| 02:24.34 | rixth | "Online Journal of Christian Theology and Philosophy"? |
| 02:24.34 | SerajewelKS | useruser: no |
| 02:24.34 | Guerin | jetscreamer: yeah. Or just tell your mta to relay direct to debian.org, which accepts tls mail. |
| 02:24.35 | gravity | rixth: apt-get install quodlibet? |
| 02:24.36 | dna_ | rixth, that sounds like you would be floating. |
| 02:24.45 | useruser | SerajewelKS: that's probably a good start |
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| 02:24.57 | useruser | SerajewelKS: you have to tell your bootloader to pass the right parameters to the kernel |
| 02:25.07 | cr3 | anyone here happened to have installed Debian on a PowerPC G3? |
| 02:25.08 | SerajewelKS | useruser: i don't want a framebuffer -- i know there is a way to set the font without a framebuffer |
| 02:25.13 | odla | gravity: quodlibet looks a lot like rhythmbox |
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| 02:25.18 | BucWheat | dvs or what about ../../udev.rules ? because the log files mention udev.rules when it maps it to hiddev0 |
| 02:25.22 | gravity | odla: It can, but it doesn't have to |
| 02:25.24 | useruser | SerajewelKS: oh, right. yes there is, but it's been years since i did it and i've forgotten how |
| 02:25.25 | gravity | odla: It's way more powerful |
| 02:25.31 | odla | but it seems to have more features |
| 02:25.35 | SimonRaven | cr3: what kind? ;) |
| 02:25.36 | BucWheat | dvs what should i put in this new file you are suggesting i create? could you post your config? |
| 02:25.37 | gravity | It's awesome |
| 02:25.47 | dvs | BucWheat: you want your rule before udev.rules |
| 02:25.53 | odla | maybe i'll d/l quodlibet |
| 02:25.53 | rixth | Ahh, I was searching apt-get install quod-libet |
| 02:26.04 | cr3 | SimonRaven: laptop, the black one. the problem is that I can't seem to boot from the CD and that's really too bad because I already have the partition space for debian :) |
| 02:26.10 | markybob | tyranix: any ideas? :) |
| 02:26.14 | SimonRaven | cr3: which one? ;) |
| 02:26.15 | useruser | SerajewelKS: apt-cache show kbd looks hopeful to me |
| 02:26.19 | odla | rixth: http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet/wiki/Screenshots |
| 02:26.22 | tyranix | markybob: pastebinning now |
| 02:26.36 | BucWheat | dvs why? did you do the same for USB memory sticks? |
| 02:26.46 | SerajewelKS | useruser: ah, thanks |
| 02:26.50 | SimonRaven | @mac models |
| 02:26.52 | cr3 | SimonRaven: which version of debian, do you mean? I happen to have a CD of woody. |
| 02:26.53 | gravity | The quodlibet author is a debian developer |
| 02:26.58 | gravity | He's very good |
| 02:27.02 | SimonRaven | @macmodels |
| 02:27.14 | dvs | BucWheat: http://pastebin.ca/38756 |
| 02:27.15 | cr3 | SimonRaven: hm, I'm not sure how much more specific but I could try my best to pick from a list of models |
| 02:27.19 | SimonRaven | cr3: no, what powerbook? there's several of that description |
| 02:27.32 | SimonRaven | cr3: and don't use woody if possible |
| 02:27.38 | aazevedo1984 | Who can I install a winmodem sis in debian 3.11? |
| 02:27.38 | tyranix | markybob: http://pastebin.com/525038 |
| 02:27.45 | SimonRaven | oh, duh |
| 02:27.46 | rixth | It doesn't suit well to big libraries. With Rhythmbox, you have the lists on the top with all your artsts and albums, click one of them and it shows only material from that artist/album |
| 02:27.50 | cr3 | SimonRaven: I'm sorry, powerbook g3 |
| 02:27.50 | rixth | Hrmph |
| 02:27.56 | useruser | aazevedo1984: linmodems.org |
| 02:27.57 | SimonRaven | forgot i kept restarting mysql |
| 02:28.21 | aazevedo1984 | thanks |
| 02:28.30 | cr3 | SimonRaven: I would like to just try getting woddy installed this evening, I'm really anxious to see Debian running on the laptop |
| 02:28.34 | BucWheat | dvs why do you have serial there if the cable is usb ? |
| 02:28.36 | markybob | tyranix: worked beautifully. thank you! |
| 02:28.44 | tyranix | markybob: you're welcome |
| 02:28.46 | cr3 | SimonRaven: tomorrow, I could burn a more recent version of sarge |
| 02:28.49 | rixth | I get the same error rhythmbox gave me too.... |
| 02:28.49 | rixth | ** Message: could not link audio/x-raw-int, endianness=(int)1234, signed=(boolean)true, width=(int)16, depth=(int)16, rate=(int)44100, channels=(int)2 |
| 02:29.05 | rixth | So quodlibet is a no go |
| 02:29.12 | dvs | BucWheat: You've never written a udev rule, have you? |
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| 02:29.23 | cr3 | SimonRaven: do you think there's something special to do for the powerbook to start booting from the CD? |
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| 02:29.38 | BucWheat | dvs no |
| 02:29.57 | gravity | Ah, fun. gstreamer bug |
| 02:30.11 | dvs | BucWheat: Well, you'll have to do some research because that exact rule won't work for you. |
| 02:30.22 | SimonRaven | cr3: it depends on the model. some can som ecan't |
| 02:30.38 | SimonRaven | @mac models |
| 02:30.52 | SerajewelKS | useruser: found it, consolechars -f font-file |
| 02:31.04 | BucWheat | dvs i need help filling in these blanks. let me post what logs give |
| 02:31.22 | dvs | BucWheat: I still can't help with the logs |
| 02:31.30 | SerajewelKS | useruser: smaller font = better aaxine resolution =D |
| 02:32.15 | dvs | BucWheat: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
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| 02:32.39 | gravity | rixth: You may just want to use amarok or xmms or something until gstreamer is fixed |
| 02:32.46 | odla | gravity: quodlibet is much better than rhythmbox |
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| 02:33.12 | BucWheat | dev http://pastebin.ca/38757 check me out |
| 02:33.18 | gravity | odla: I think so too. quodlibet is the only music player I've really liked (although amarok looks nice too) |
| 02:33.35 | gravity | muine was all right |
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| 02:33.42 | odla | i like amarok but that's about the only kde app i seem to like |
| 02:34.05 | dvs | BucWheat: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
| 02:34.16 | rixth | gravity, I don't see how it will be fixed. No one seems to know what the problem is |
| 02:34.28 | rixth | totem-xine works dandy. |
| 02:34.43 | rixth | Well, its not a music library, but sound works |
| 02:35.25 | gravity | rixth: Are you on x86? |
| 02:35.33 | rixth | gravity, yes |
| 02:35.42 | gravity | Ok |
| 02:35.55 | gravity | Hrm, I don't know gstreamer really so I don't know |
| 02:36.06 | gravity | rixth: Are you running testing? |
| 02:36.20 | rixth | gravity, indeed |
| 02:36.33 | gravity | Ok... it's probably a migration issue that'll clear up in time |
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| 02:37.33 | rixth | migration issue? |
| 02:37.36 | rixth | !migration issue |
| 02:37.51 | gravity | An issue with certain things migrating in to testing and other things not migrating in |
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| 02:39.29 | rixth | I find it hard to believe that one who does a new install of testing cannot use Rhythmbox, a pretty major & common application. |
| 02:39.30 | rixth | Hrmph |
| 02:39.57 | gravity | Dude, it's not a release |
| 02:40.01 | gravity | It's a testing version |
| 02:40.04 | gravity | Deal with it |
| 02:40.34 | dondelelcaro | !+why rhythmbox is not in testing |
| 02:40.34 | dpkg | rhythmbox is not in testing for the reasons list in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=rhythmbox |
| 02:40.44 | centrx | according to that site rhythmbox is in testing |
| 02:40.58 | gravity | dondelelcaro: It's in, he just gets an error that also shows up with quodlibet (pointing straight at gstreamer most likely) |
| 02:41.04 | BucWheat | dvs any more help? i have created my rule: BUS="usb", SYSFS{model}="American Power Conversion Back-UPS RS 1500 ", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="apc_ups" |
| 02:41.13 | gravity | Ah, never mind |
| 02:41.20 | BucWheat | but it still links to /dev/usb/hiddev0 |
| 02:41.28 | dvs | BucWheat: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
| 02:41.35 | dvs | That's all I can say |
| 02:42.00 | dvs | BucWheat: You need to find the right info using udevinfo |
| 02:42.02 | rixth | Well Googling this gave no help, or what packages I need. I'd get them out of unstble if need be** Message: could not link audio/x-raw-int, endianness=(int)1234, signed=(boolean)true, width=(int)16, depth=(int)16, rate=(int)44100, channels=(int)2 |
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| 02:42.35 | odla | i find it curious that people get surprised when packages aren't in testing or they sometimes break |
| 02:42.53 | dvs | BucWheat: udevinfo -a -p $(udevinfo -q path -n /dev/hiddev0) |
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| 02:43.39 | BucWheat | couldn't get the class device |
| 02:43.50 | dvs | BucWheat: udevinfo -a -p $(udevinfo -q path -n /dev/usb/hiddev0) |
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| 02:44.40 | BucWheat | dvs this is it: SYSFS{product}="Back-UPS RS 1500 FW:8.g8 .D USB FW:g8 " |
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| 02:44.57 | dvs | BucWheat: I can't see the output of that command |
| 02:45.07 | dvs | from here |
| 02:45.35 | BucWheat | dvs i know i can paste it. i just thought i'd use that one in the rule since it specified the actual model that i'm using |
| 02:46.10 | dvs | BucWheat: Then use it. |
| 02:46.16 | BucWheat | http://pastebin.ca/38758 |
| 02:46.42 | GecKo | Can someone point me in the right direction on a tutorial of some description? I wanna setup a gateway machine with one lan eth and two wan eths, only want to use one of the wan eths until(if) that one falls over, use the other one.. |
| 02:47.00 | dvs | BucWheat: As you know, I'd use the SYSFS{serial} |
| 02:47.36 | BucWheat | dvs haha i feel like a moron :) serial = number not cable type :) |
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| 02:47.54 | BucWheat | dvs i have to use product because i will be using this on multiple systems and the serials will change |
| 02:48.16 | dvs | BucWheat: Oh. In that case, use the product |
| 02:48.58 | BucWheat | so now i need to symlink my file to... (let me scroll up) |
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| 02:50.27 | BucWheat | dvs above you said create a new file and link it to /etc/udev/rules.d . why link it to a directory? |
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| 02:50.49 | dvs | BucWheat: Link it inside the directory, before the udev.rules link |
| 02:52.30 | Grackshrike | I'm having a helluva time getting wifi to work on this box. It's a mini itx epia mii 12000 with a pcmcia lucent wavelan ieee silver turbo. iwconfig gives me some crap about the interface that leads me to believe it's recognizing the device, but other than that I have no idea what I'm doing. I keep finding the same resources through google. Anyone know of any good web pages I could look at? |
| 02:52.45 | Grackshrike | My goal is to share my internet connection via wifi... |
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| 02:53.35 | shadows | Grackshrike: how about erm... |
| 02:53.41 | shadows | Grackshrike: what do you want to connect with? |
| 02:53.56 | Grackshrike | My PSP. |
| 02:53.58 | shadows | Grackshrike: ah |
| 02:54.16 | shadows | Grackshrike: okay so the deal is, you want the WIFI device to be acting as a provider of wifi? |
| 02:54.26 | Grackshrike | Yeah.. |
| 02:54.38 | shadows | i.e. are you looking for adhoc-adhoc or managed-accesspoint |
| 02:55.00 | Grackshrike | Sure, I guess. I want it to act as a wireless access point. |
| 02:55.07 | shadows | oh |
| 02:55.17 | shadows | i don't know much about that with a normal machine and wifi card |
| 02:55.23 | shadows | i'm an openwrt user for my wifi needs |
| 02:55.34 | Grackshrike | Hmm. |
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| 02:55.45 | shadows | there must be examples on how to set up a *nix box as an wifi access point |
| 02:56.15 | shadows | you could ask the guys in #openwrt where to go, they will not be able to answer your debian questions though |
| 02:56.39 | Grackshrike | Ahh, well I'll take a look. |
| 02:56.42 | LinuxNIT | is it possible to recover deleted files off a usb flash drive? |
| 02:57.19 | shadows | LinuxNIT: your answer resides between "not likely" and "not worthwhile" |
| 02:57.25 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:57.29 | sunfish | overwritten? |
| 02:57.30 | LinuxNIT | ok i was just curious |
| 02:57.49 | LinuxNIT | no i dont need to it was just something i was wondering about |
| 02:57.53 | shadows | i've recovered many things off of storage devices |
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| 02:58.06 | skon | How do you draw lines in GIMP? |
| 02:58.14 | dvs | !pal skon |
| 02:58.16 | LinuxNIT | shadows, flash storage? |
| 02:58.37 | shadows | it is most certainly a condition of "will i stop breathing if this does not work, or can i spend my time doing something else and remember not to break this again" |
| 02:58.49 | skon | dvs, i haven't used gimp much, but I can't find an icon for a line tool |
| 02:59.10 | shadows | if the recovery was a service for a client, i thought of inventive ways to convince them to back up their data for future incidents |
| 02:59.46 | shadows | like recovering only the filenames |
| 02:59.54 | shadows | and charging them for it |
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| 03:00.19 | LinuxNIT | lol |
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| 03:00.38 | shadows | LinuxNIT: when flash memory structures physically break down, there's not a whole heck of a lot you can do about it |
| 03:00.44 | Xenguy | skon: apt-get install grokkingthegimp |
| 03:00.52 | Xenguy | skon: (from memory) |
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| 03:00.59 | Newck | skon: i believe it's a plugin |
| 03:01.14 | skon | Xenguy, Newck: thanks....that sounds retarded |
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| 03:01.41 | Newck | indeed |
| 03:02.20 | LinuxNIT | shadows, ok i kinda figureed it wouldnt work but i dont know till i ask :) |
| 03:02.48 | shadows | LinuxNIT: if it's an filesystem error, the data is usually there (more or less, usually most of it) |
| 03:03.04 | LinuxNIT | i see |
| 03:03.11 | shadows | the trouble is most data isn't interesting or worthwhile to recover |
| 03:03.13 | BucWheat | dvs i linked it before udev.rules and udev.rules still creates the device node and my file doesn't even get ran |
| 03:03.18 | LinuxNIT | i was thinking more like deleted file bay accident |
| 03:03.31 | shadows | well |
| 03:03.34 | LinuxNIT | lol probalbly so |
| 03:03.35 | shadows | you should have backups |
| 03:03.38 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:03.44 | LinuxNIT | yep |
| 03:03.52 | shadows | if you don't have backups, you better be very good at data recovery |
| 03:03.56 | shadows | *cough* <--- |
| 03:04.05 | LinuxNIT | well... |
| 03:04.10 | LinuxNIT | i had fun with that once |
| 03:04.23 | BucWheat | dvs i have: BUS="usb", SYSFS{product}="Back-UPS RS 1500 FW:8.g8 .D USB FW:g8 ", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="apc_ups" in /etc/udev/apc_ups |
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| 03:04.30 | Newck | "What, no raise? No backups, then!" |
| 03:04.44 | BucWheat | dvs and i did ln -s /etc/udev/apc_ups in the /etc/udev/rules.d/ dir |
| 03:04.44 | LinuxNIT | backed everything up to a extrenal hd buut when i went to install a version of linux it showed that drive as a partion and i didnt realize what i was looking at |
| 03:04.50 | LinuxNIT | i deleted it :) |
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| 03:04.55 | shadows | my favorite (no, not really) was an FAT32 partition which some stupid microsoft "recovery" tool overwrote the FAT on, one hundred and ninety two times |
| 03:05.04 | LinuxNIT | took till 4 am but i got it back :) |
| 03:05.04 | shadows | so you had 192 copies of a file allocaton table |
| 03:05.07 | shadows | :) |
| 03:05.08 | BucWheat | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.19 | shadows | LinuxNIT: lucky your data |
| 03:05.38 | LinuxNIT | well i deleted the partiontion didnt write a new one |
| 03:06.33 | LinuxNIT | ironic part was i stuck it onthe external drive to keep it safe :) |
| 03:06.42 | shadows | make[1]: Entering directory `/root/buildkern/ns/linux-2.6.16-rc1' |
| 03:06.42 | shadows | /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' |
| 03:06.47 | shadows | what the heck |
| 03:06.55 | shadows | why is make-kpkg failing |
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| 03:10.38 | shadows | bonus points to the individual whom uses make-kpkg to successfully build the vanilla 2.6.15.1 kernel |
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| 03:10.54 | shadows | 'cause it does not seem to work on this machine here :/ |
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| 03:12.30 | dotCOMmie | is debian testing currently "frozen"? |
| 03:12.31 | Phated | WTF? It's a shell script issue? go fix it :| |
| 03:12.44 | ViViD | is there a different way to set passwords other than using the passwd utility?? i need one where i can do it in one command line, like 'passwd $username $password $confirmed' |
| 03:13.05 | BucWheat | dvs what did i bork up? |
| 03:13.16 | shadows | Phated: me? |
| 03:13.17 | Phated | ViViD: Is this for use in a script of some sort? |
| 03:13.25 | Phated | shadows: Why not you? :) |
| 03:13.39 | shadows | Phated: i'd like to know if it fails on other peoples' systems |
| 03:13.48 | shadows | or if it's just this computer for some odd reason |
| 03:14.01 | shadows | i *am* running etch on amd64, it's not exactly stable |
| 03:14.11 | ClayG | anything like this for linux? http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/SIW-System-Info--Build-Download-15757.html |
| 03:14.39 | shadows | ViViD: use expect and passwd, perhaps |
| 03:14.43 | Phated | shadows: The error message you pasted implies a shell script error. |
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| 03:14.50 | Phated | ViViD: Look at chpasswd, it may help. |
| 03:15.13 | shadows | Phated: hm, it would seem so. my question is, does this process work on a different debian setup |
| 03:15.40 | ViViD | Phated, yea its a script where i can execute commands, but cant execute commands inside of a command like passwd requires |
| 03:15.45 | shadows | you know? is this just "my box is configured wrong" or "error with a debian package" |
| 03:15.54 | chealer | dotCOMmie: no. there were recently issues with britney, but AFAIK that's fixed |
| 03:15.57 | Phated | shadows: The SCRIPT does not change. Ergo, it is -likely-, and in fact -probable-, that the error will be the SAME, as sh works pretty much the same way. |
| 03:16.01 | markybob | tyranix: happen to still be around? |
| 03:16.08 | ViViD | Phated, and ive worked around the problem in adduser, now i just need to set the passwords |
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| 03:16.14 | bucky | shadows: the error you posted says your trying to build 2.6.16-rc1 |
| 03:16.15 | shadows | Phated: "pretty much" is not good for me |
| 03:16.16 | Phated | ViViD: I see what you mean. Trying to update a few hundred users' passwords? :) |
| 03:16.27 | slushpupie | shadows: Ill try it in a sec (I want to compile it anyway) |
| 03:16.31 | shadows | slushpupie: :) |
| 03:16.36 | Phated | shadows: Get help from others, then. |
| 03:16.50 | dotCOMmie | chealer: is there a place where I can find more info? |
| 03:16.54 | slushpupie | shadows: you want me to try on sarge-amd64 or sarge-i386? |
| 03:16.58 | shadows | slushpupie: either one |
| 03:17.00 | ViViD | Phated, no its for a web host, for users to create accounts online without administrator interaction |
| 03:17.13 | Phated | ViViD: Ah. In which case, again, man chpasswd. |
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| 03:17.13 | shadows | slushpupie: i want to know if this works at all with non x.y.z versioned kernels after 2.6.15 |
| 03:17.29 | Phated | ViViD: And figure out what needs to be done. |
| 03:17.30 | shadows | slushpupie: vanilla 2.6.15.1 is the test-case |
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| 03:17.40 | chealer | dotCOMmie: tracking debian-devel-announce will let you know when Etch will freeze (or otherwise, just tracking the channel's topic) |
| 03:17.45 | slushpupie | shadows: downloading it now.. let you know in a bit |
| 03:17.51 | shadows | thanks buddy |
| 03:18.03 | luite | ViViD: usermod -p [password] username |
| 03:18.06 | zOrK | i've a question, SWAP memory seems to be not load, it have 0 memory USED .. |
| 03:18.19 | shadows | zOrK: 'swapon -s' ? |
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| 03:18.27 | dotCOMmie | chealer: thanks. |
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| 03:18.38 | ViViD | luite, thanks, that looks good |
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| 03:18.40 | BucWheat | dvs think i got it :) |
| 03:18.40 | zOrK | Filename Type Size Used Priority |
| 03:18.41 | zOrK | /dev/hda5 partition 1413680 92 -1 |
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| 03:18.41 | bucky | that's common not to have any swap used |
| 03:18.49 | z3d3 | anyone here use ctrlproxy ? |
| 03:19.01 | Newck | why might BT848 not show up in 2.6.15.1's menuconfig? |
| 03:19.03 | shadows | if you have a *lot* of ram, then it is likely the swap does not get used much |
| 03:19.04 | Phated | zOrK: Not -used-, or not have swap at all? |
| 03:19.27 | shadows | Newck: dependancy issues within the kernel config forced that to be moved around |
| 03:19.27 | jetscreamer | him say 'not used' |
| 03:19.30 | zOrK | i just have 512 sha1sum |
| 03:19.32 | zOrK | i just have 512 shadows |
| 03:19.33 | ACU07 | CE the TOTEM as default - specially for the PLUGIN for any browser (I have a powerpc with ubuntu) |
| 03:19.57 | Newck | shadows: hmm. know where it's at now? |
| 03:20.21 | ACU07 | How to replace Totem - from being the default player specially in browser plugins |
| 03:20.25 | BucWheat | dvs sweetness man!!!! now to configure apcupsd_cgi :) |
| 03:20.27 | jetscreamer | under video for linux or so |
| 03:20.33 | shadows | Newck: some other stuff has to be enabled, and it's all so complicated i gave up thinking about it. try grepping -i for 848 in the .config |
| 03:20.34 | gravity | ACU07: #ubuntu |
| 03:20.43 | Newck | ergh |
| 03:20.52 | slushpupie | shadows: how quickly did your kernel build fail? |
| 03:20.58 | shadows | slushpupie: after menuconfig |
| 03:21.00 | Newck | no match |
| 03:21.08 | shadows | Newck: O_o |
| 03:21.13 | slushpupie | shadows: mine is building right now, no errors |
| 03:21.26 | shadows | gosh darn it, what is different on my computer that it fails |
| 03:21.35 | slushpupie | shadows: sarge-i386, I can try on amd64 too |
| 03:21.38 | shadows | slushpupie: did you get any output from that script, like what i posted? |
| 03:21.57 | ACU07 | I went there : no aswer et how I can change the TOTEm as default player |
| 03:22.17 | Phated | shadows: It SAYS it's a shell script error - why not actually TRY fixing it? |
| 03:22.28 | gravity | !they don't know |
| 03:22.28 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 03:22.57 | jetscreamer | -> Device Drivers -> Multimedia devices -> Video For Linux (VIDEO_DEV [=y]) -> Video For Linux |
| 03:22.59 | slushpupie | shadows: no, nothing like that at all |
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| 03:23.01 | jetscreamer | hard |
| 03:23.06 | jetscreamer | under there |
| 03:23.23 | shadows | slushpupie: okay hrm. maybe it's my make-kpkg command? i'm using "make-kpkg --append-to-version -jnc1 --revision `date +%Y%m%d` --arch amd64 --subarch k8 --arch-in-name --stem linux --initrd --config menuconfig --rootcmd fakeroot --us --uc binary-arch" |
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| 03:23.34 | Newck | ah, I2C bus needed enabled. |
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| 03:23.43 | shadows | Newck: that sounds familiar. nice find! |
| 03:23.53 | jetscreamer | that's a weird command |
| 03:24.29 | Flimzy | I would like to set up my computer (and most specifically, OpenOffice) for two languages... English and Spanish. But I would like the option to switch between EN, ES, both, for tools like spellcheck. Is there any way to do this easily? |
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| 03:25.56 | SimonRaven | probably, but i don't know them |
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| 03:31.57 | dominicano | dvm1981. Hi |
| 03:32.18 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Hey man ;-) all right ? |
| 03:32.32 | dominicano | dvm1981. I'm in recente upgraded version |
| 03:32.40 | dominicano | dvm1981. upgraded to etch |
| 03:32.54 | dominicano | dvm1981. Hi man, how do U feel today? |
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| 03:33.15 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I read the 'debian-reference' before going to sleep, here it is 4:36 AM |
| 03:33.54 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Yes, im good today, and you ? I have filled my first bug with 'reportbug' a hour ago :-) |
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| 03:34.16 | dominicano | dvm1981. wow, is very early, I was chating with you yersteday at the same hour... |
| 03:34.38 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Ye, i have some troubles to sleep some times |
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| 03:34.55 | dominicano | dvm1981. me too |
| 03:35.04 | dvm1981 | dominicano: What hour it is by you ? |
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| 03:35.40 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I looking on the world clock :-0 |
| 03:36.33 | dominicano | dvm1981. here is 23:36 |
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| 03:36.40 | dvm1981 | dominicano: And what think you about the upgrade ? and 'etch' ? On this machine i have 'Stable', i think that i migrate this machine soon |
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| 03:37.16 | dominicano | dvm1981, well my upgrade is very recent, just 10 minutes ago... |
| 03:37.38 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Hhhhhmmmm. |
| 03:37.39 | dominicano | dvm1981, in my first test is with xchat, |
| 03:37.46 | dvm1981 | dominicano: ;-) |
| 03:38.10 | adlpaf | what is the enhanced pakage name??? |
| 03:38.10 | dominicano | dvm1981, I have a problem in kde o gnome, the windows are big, |
| 03:38.44 | dvm1981 | dominicano: The packages in 'Testing' are more recent, verry more, so there are many application with new features, like 'Kontact' for example |
| 03:39.02 | CaT[tm] | hey folks. anyone know of an alternative to unzip? (ie something that supports files >2gb) |
| 03:39.05 | adlpaf | dominicano, you have can configure con xf86cfg or with xf86config |
| 03:39.15 | dominicano | dvm1981, on this machine i have a low resolutions, and, the windows are enormous |
| 03:39.19 | odla | dvm1981: and with the occasional bug or two that breaks an app |
| 03:39.21 | dvm1981 | dominicano: You're resolution i think, look in the file '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4' |
| 03:39.45 | dvm1981 | odla: Yes, thats right, so filling a bug then ;-) |
| 03:39.53 | dominicano | dvm1981, I know with te command dpkg-reconfigure, i do this, but the windows from gnome still be enormous |
| 03:39.56 | shadows | okay, possible bug in kernel-package ? how to find out where the bug is. |
| 03:40.17 | odla | !tell shadows about bts |
| 03:40.30 | adlpaf | I want to install enhanced, haw can I do it??? |
| 03:40.35 | adlpaf | how* |
| 03:40.46 | odla | adlpaf: is that the name of the package? |
| 03:41.14 | adlpaf | odla, no, it is not |
| 03:41.19 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I do not use 'Gnome', i like more KDE, or if on an less memory computer i use, 'fluxbox' or 'xfce4' or 'wmmaker' |
| 03:41.41 | adlpaf | it is known with that name |
| 03:41.45 | dominicano | dvm1981: ok, I use kde too, but i'm in gnome looking the upgrades |
| 03:41.59 | odla | !irritate shadows |
| 03:41.59 | dpkg | shadows: wenas how can I make my mepis werkz lol |
| 03:42.03 | odla | ;) |
| 03:42.08 | dominicano | dvm1981: I prefer kde too, but i have the same problem there... |
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| 03:42.41 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Sure that the file '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4' are correct ? pastebin it, an i look if you want |
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| 03:42.50 | odla | you guys should check out icewm |
| 03:42.58 | adlpaf | odla, that is my problem, I do not knok what it is the package name |
| 03:42.58 | dvm1981 | !pastebin |
| 03:42.59 | dpkg | from memory, pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 03:43.05 | adlpaf | know* |
| 03:43.11 | odla | adlpaf: describe the package |
| 03:43.16 | odla | adlpaf: enhanced what? |
| 03:43.22 | Newck | is there a good way (other than dmesg output) to check for irq conflicts? |
| 03:43.24 | golly | hey a quickie.....whats the script that runs when a user logs out of KDE? |
| 03:43.26 | dvm1981 | odla: Yes, that ok an great on 'icewm' |
| 03:43.29 | Forrestf | i whant to install debian using the net install but the Target HD is on A ITE 8212 RAID Card |
| 03:43.46 | Forrestf | when i download Sarge (latest) |
| 03:43.54 | Forrestf | it does not show the Hardrive |
| 03:43.56 | dominicano | dvm1981: i will do |
| 03:44.09 | adlpaf | it is like KDE or Gnome or XFCE, do you understand me??? |
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| 03:44.16 | dvm1981 | Forrestf: Load an module while setup, i do not know ho |
| 03:44.23 | skon | anyone know where to download gimptools? i need to install a plugin for gimp and I can't find a download site anywhere.. |
| 03:44.36 | Forrestf | What Mod |
| 03:44.37 | dvm1981 | Forrestf: But i think that you must load an external module for it, if exist |
| 03:45.37 | Forrestf | ? |
| 03:45.44 | dominicano | dvm1981: see http://pastebin.com/525117 |
| 03:45.49 | Forrestf | i thought it was built into the 2.6 kern |
| 03:46.10 | odla | Forrestf: if you're installing sarge then sarge uses 2.4 by default |
| 03:46.14 | dvm1981 | Forrestf: I do not wish module you are need an how to, yust i know that in some case someone need to load some things while the setup is go |
| 03:46.15 | Forrestf | i know |
| 03:46.17 | dvm1981 | dominicano: i look now |
| 03:46.18 | odla | Forrestf: type linux26 at the setup |
| 03:46.23 | Forrestf | (used Linux26) |
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| 03:46.29 | odla | hrm... |
| 03:46.37 | odla | Forrestf: you could try the etch installer |
| 03:46.41 | Forrestf | did |
| 03:46.48 | odla | you tried both? |
| 03:46.51 | Forrestf | yes |
| 03:46.56 | odla | hmm... |
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| 03:47.07 | Forrestf | etch FAILRF once |
| 03:47.19 | odla | Forrestf: have you googled this to see if someone has had any luck installing debian on this? |
| 03:47.19 | Forrestf | it got the HD and i parted it and then it well crashed |
| 03:47.25 | slide | I realize yall probably won't want to help me b/c im using ubuntu not debian directly but my computer is currently borked and I really need to get some help asap. Ive posted my problem here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122164 |
| 03:47.25 | dvm1981 | dominicano: You are using a '800x600' resolution, yes ? You want '1024x768' ? |
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| 03:47.48 | Forrestf | etch found the HD once |
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| 03:47.58 | odla | Forrestf: you could try it again? |
| 03:48.01 | Forrestf | but it failed, |
| 03:48.03 | Forrestf | did |
| 03:48.10 | Forrestf | now it does not see it anymore |
| 03:48.55 | DaveLib | hello all |
| 03:48.59 | dvm1981 | slide: Its looks that you have troubles with 'bonobo' reinstall it with purge or so to fix it ?? |
| 03:49.04 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Hello |
| 03:49.08 | dominicano | dvm1981: NO, i can't use 1024x768 |
| 03:49.19 | dvm1981 | dominicano: For wish reason ? |
| 03:49.33 | DaveLib | i am here with a followup question to some advice i got here on #debian a few days ago |
| 03:49.45 | dominicano | dvm1981: because... |
| 03:49.48 | dominicano | dvm1981: because.. my monitor is a 15 inch |
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| 03:49.54 | dvm1981 | dominicano: ha ye |
| 03:50.08 | DaveLib | i am running sarge been running it for about a month which is my first use of debian |
| 03:50.10 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Before the migration, the resolution what the same ? |
| 03:50.14 | slide | dvm1981, i did reinstall bonobo already (and a lot of other things), i did apt-get install --reinstall bonobo |
| 03:50.27 | dvm1981 | DaveLib: Great man ;-) |
| 03:50.33 | dominicano | dvm1981: see, the XF86Config file for me is fine... |
| 03:50.37 | odla | slide: apt-get remove --purge bonobo && apt-get install bonobo |
| 03:50.39 | DaveLib | my basic sarge installation has been working fine |
| 03:50.46 | dominicano | dvm1981: my problem is with the size from some windows |
| 03:51.09 | dvm1981 | slide: apt-get remove --purge ... |
| 03:51.12 | slide | odla, ok trying now :) |
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| 03:51.18 | DaveLib | but i wanted to try 2 packages from the debian repositories 1 from testing and one from sid |
| 03:51.27 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I not direct understand ... Thinking |
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| 03:51.43 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Can you describe a litte bit more, i listen |
| 03:51.46 | dangaio | Hello everybody. How do I get an RTL8139 working with debian? |
| 03:51.48 | DaveLib | i tried to install those with synaptic |
| 03:51.50 | Forrestf | So? any ideas? |
| 03:51.58 | slide | dvm1981, odla nope =\ |
| 03:52.00 | dvm1981 | dangaio: It work by default not ? |
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| 03:52.22 | Flimzy | Are there any babelfish (or other translator) packages for Debian? |
| 03:52.25 | dominicano | dvm1981: can I show you a snapshot ? |
| 03:52.32 | dvm1981 | dangaio: I have these ship for my laptop, debian find it without problems and additional things to do |
| 03:52.41 | DaveLib | i got library dependency problems and aborted the install so my base sarge is still fine just still missing the 2 other packages |
| 03:52.43 | dangaio | dvm1981, in lsmod, the module 8139too gets loaded but nothing else happens. |
| 03:52.43 | dvm1981 | dominicano: yes |
| 03:52.45 | dominicano | dvm1981: no, no , foget it, it is not important right now |
| 03:52.56 | Newck | IRQ sharing on x86 PCI - anyone ever do it? |
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| 03:53.01 | dvm1981 | dominicano: bwa, ok |
| 03:53.16 | dominicano | dvm1981: it does no matter, is only with a few windows |
| 03:53.32 | odla | slide: you could purge gnome and reinstall it |
| 03:53.34 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Otherwise make a screenshot, set it on a server, an paste the link |
| 03:53.37 | DaveLib | so i asked here on #debian and xoz suggested i try debootstrap and install sid to a /sid/ and chroot to it to run the packages |
| 03:53.38 | odla | but that would be a pain in the ass |
| 03:53.44 | slide | odla, ok, I will try that |
| 03:53.51 | odla | slide: or you could reinstall? |
| 03:54.00 | dvm1981 | slide: What would you say ? |
| 03:54.01 | odla | slide: or you could wait for someone who knows more than i do |
| 03:54.04 | slide | hehe |
| 03:54.07 | DaveLib | so i tried that and it worked partially |
| 03:54.18 | slide | well, i've tried apt-get install --reinstall gnome |
| 03:54.24 | slide | but that doesnt do anything really |
| 03:54.25 | Guerin | dangaio: if 8139too gets loaded, all you need to do is configure it |
| 03:54.30 | Guerin | dangaio: man interfaces |
| 03:54.31 | odla | slide: gnome is a metapackage |
| 03:54.31 | DaveLib | namely i got the 2 packages in and starting but in each case i only have partial functionality |
| 03:54.38 | odla | !tell slide about remove gnome |
| 03:55.03 | odla | slide: remember this is the 'debian way' and it might not work with ubuntu |
| 03:55.11 | slide | yea =\ |
| 03:55.17 | dvm1981 | dangaio: You need to configure it, ip ... |
| 03:55.19 | slide | but they can't help me soo heh |
| 03:55.38 | dominicano | dvm1981: ok, i gonna do this |
| 03:55.56 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Yes man, so we try ;-) |
| 03:55.56 | DaveLib | both programs i am trying to run are X clients |
| 03:55.57 | dangaio | ok, so how do I get it done so it can use dhcp? |
| 03:56.07 | odla | dominicano: upgrading to etch? |
| 03:56.21 | dvm1981 | dangaio: its default in DHCP |
| 03:56.28 | DaveLib | so my chrooted X client is trying to talk to my main X server |
| 03:56.44 | dominicano | odla: yes...! |
| 03:56.50 | dvm1981 | dangaio: If you not config it, and installed with netinst it's in DHCP |
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| 03:57.00 | DaveLib | i did fstab of proc to the chrooted /proc |
| 03:57.08 | odla | dominicano: make sure you have a kernel >=2.6.12 before you upgrade or udeb will f-up your upgrade |
| 03:57.11 | odla | or at least it did for me |
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| 03:57.21 | odla | oops udev |
| 03:57.22 | DaveLib | and i did mount --bind of the reral and chrooted /tmp/ 's |
| 03:57.24 | odla | not udeb |
| 03:57.30 | dvm1981 | odla: He have do the upgrade already |
| 03:57.56 | DaveLib | and i did xauth to copy my real X authority to the chrooted X authority |
| 03:58.18 | odla | dvm1981: well i install 2.6.12 from etch, reboot into that kernel, then apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 03:58.32 | DaveLib | so the progams do start |
| 03:58.35 | dvm1981 | odla: yes |
| 03:58.39 | odla | dvm1981: though there might have been a udev issue a couple weeks ago that has been solved |
| 03:58.46 | DaveLib | but they run into some trouble |
| 03:58.48 | odla | oh |
| 03:58.53 | odla | he's already upgrade |
| 03:58.54 | odla | i see |
| 03:59.03 | dvm1981 | odla: yes ;-) |
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| 03:59.36 | dvm1981 | odla: At this time if we do an upgrade from stable to testing, it's solved ? |
| 03:59.57 | odla | dvm1981: well i upgrade from sarge to etch last week and it worked |
| 04:00.03 | odla | dvm1981: so i think so ;) |
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| 04:00.20 | odla | dvm1981: just make sure you have a kernel >=2.6.12 so that udev doesn't freak out |
| 04:00.24 | odla | that you're running |
| 04:00.25 | dvm1981 | odla: yes |
| 04:00.33 | odla | dvm1981: then you should be good to go |
| 04:00.33 | DaveLib | i think i need additional links from the chroot to the real ie "links" of some sort |
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| 04:00.46 | dvm1981 | odla: Or if you have not Gnome i think that we not see this problem |
| 04:01.07 | odla | dvm1981: yeah |
| 04:01.31 | DaveLib | another thing i did read in a web page to do this was copied the real /etc/hosts to the corresponding in chroot |
| 04:01.31 | dvm1981 | odla: Like i not use Gnome ... ... ... i not see it anymore |
| 04:01.45 | Flimzy | Is there any way to switch between languages on a per-application, or per-application-instance basis? Specifically with programs like OpenOffice, Xchat, and mozilla? |
| 04:01.51 | dvm1981 | odla: I would not say that it's bad he, gnome |
| 04:01.52 | odla | dvm1981: i see...yeah i don't use gnome either...though i do have it installed on my computer |
| 04:02.54 | chealer | Flimzy: did you try setting $LANG ? |
| 04:02.55 | dvm1981 | odla: Yes, default 'desktop environment' installation, the last time i try to install what i need, so the bare minimal and add what i need. I do that in virtual computing, here Stabe |
| 04:03.09 | dvm1981 | odla: Stable |
| 04:03.50 | Flimzy | chealer: I don't want to change the language for *every* application. Are you suggesting I just set that before starting the specific app from the shell? Like '$LANG=es; mozilla'? |
| 04:03.53 | dvm1981 | odla: So the 'Testing' are on my laptop and in virtual computers (vmware) |
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| 04:04.15 | chealer | Flimzy: $ LANG=foo bar; |
| 04:04.22 | odla | dvm1981: i see |
| 04:04.54 | Flimzy | I probably need to get some additional language support into my kernel and/or debiain |
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| 04:05.02 | dvm1981 | chealer: Hey i have understand why i have not see the things there in 'alsamixe' i had use the bad module and the 00 - MM was not there, also the other important informations that he show |
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| 04:05.42 | dvm1981 | chealer: You have help me with my sound card for my laptop right ? |
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| 04:06.04 | chealer | dvm1981: I don't remember that, unless that was a long time ago |
| 04:06.22 | dvm1981 | chealer: Yesterday or so, not? |
| 04:06.31 | chealer | dvm1981: I don't think so |
| 04:06.40 | dvm1981 | chealer: It was chealer__ |
| 04:06.53 | dvm1981 | chealer: looking to my logs |
| 04:06.57 | chealer | dvm1981: hum, well, it's great if it works :) |
| 04:07.19 | dangaio | Ok, I have typed in my interface file auto lo eth0 and made it to dhcp. When I do /etc/init.d/networking restart, I get eth0: Error while getting interface flags: No such device. |
| 04:08.06 | Forrestf | is dhclient on the sarge netinstall disk |
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| 04:08.20 | Forrestf | nvm ill do just static ip |
| 04:08.20 | dvm1981 | chealer: yes ;-) |
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| 04:08.29 | DaveLib | so the connections i made from chroot to main: proc tmp and hosts |
| 04:08.45 | chealer | Forrestf: it's there |
| 04:08.46 | dvm1981 | Forrestf: While you install with netinst he ask you to use DHCP not ? |
| 04:08.58 | DaveLib | and the troubles i still have seem to be in 3 areas |
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| 04:09.21 | DaveLib | the clients can connect to the X server |
| 04:09.41 | dangaio | is there a network how to for debian? |
| 04:10.03 | DaveLib | but gnome clients cant seem to connect to the gnome session manager according to error messages i am getting |
| 04:10.20 | shadows | hey, could i ask one of you fellow debian users to do a diff on make-kpkg against my version of make-kpkg? |
| 04:10.35 | dvm1981 | chealer: Two days ago you have help me, i have view in the log |
| 04:10.47 | DaveLib | also a client wants to dipslay a window with large detailed graphics |
| 04:10.49 | shadows | privmsg for URL, help appreciated. i'd like an diff against make-kpkg 8.x |
| 04:10.53 | chealer | dvm1981: it's OK, I just forgot |
| 04:11.20 | dvm1981 | chealer: Im not man ;-) really thankx for the support ;-) |
| 04:11.20 | chealer | shadows: what do you mean exactly? |
| 04:11.21 | dominicano | dvm1981: i finished, the snapshot is in http://relikia.blogspot.com/ |
| 04:11.30 | chealer | dvm1981: hehe |
| 04:11.30 | dvm1981 | dominicano: i look now |
| 04:12.14 | Flimzy | Where can I get a description of the various locales supported by locales? |
| 04:12.17 | jjazz | I'm a big fan of passwordless ssh login, as my day typically involves lots of hopping between three or four boxes. But now I'm sshing into a box I don't control, and I don't want to put an rsa key on it that could also be used to authenticate into other boxes. Is there a way to designate different keys for different targets, so I can have a key that is only used to authenticate into this one box (and thus not valuable to somebod |
| 04:12.31 | chealer | dangaio: you're probably better looking at the reference |
| 04:12.41 | shadows | chealer: 'make-kpkg' apparently is not working as it should on my machine (etch, testing) |
| 04:12.57 | shadows | chealer: it builds 2.6.15, but not 2.6.15.1, vanilla kernel source trees |
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| 04:13.10 | shadows | very strange shell script errors, hard to trace IMO |
| 04:13.11 | chealer | shadows: hah |
| 04:13.11 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I think that it is because you use a 800x600 resolution, that to less to work with comfort, personal meaning. |
| 04:13.24 | tyranix | Flimzy: Run the command 'locale -a' |
| 04:13.30 | sciboy | Hello, i am using a wireless network and unfortunately the connection from my Debian machine is flimsy. |
| 04:13.33 | shadows | chealer: i am hoping to see what changed between then (8.x) and now (9.008-4) |
| 04:13.41 | Flimzy | tyranix, there aren't any descriptions there. |
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| 04:14.01 | sciboy | The problem is, when the wireless drops and comes back up after a second, my machine doesn't seem to recognise that it's back online. |
| 04:14.03 | mgoetze | jjazz: you don't need to specifically designate keys, just load them all into ssh-agent and it'll try them until it finds one that works |
| 04:14.06 | sciboy | Any ideas? |
| 04:14.09 | shadows | i've got a copy of my make-kpkg available if one of you would be so kind to diff against it |
| 04:14.12 | xerophyte | does anybody know of good powerpoint viewer ?? |
| 04:14.14 | tyranix | Flimzy: hmm what are you looking for then? |
| 04:14.20 | chealer | shadows: what do you mean, you have kernel-package on etch? |
| 04:14.21 | bucky | sciboy: are you sure it's flimsy or is it flimzy ? |
| 04:14.30 | Forrestf | i have i idea, etch beta1 or the daily releses |
| 04:14.36 | chealer | shadows: s/-package/-package 8.x |
| 04:14.39 | dominicano | dvm1981: I can't use a 1024x768 because my VSYNC (i do not how to say it) gonna make me blind |
| 04:14.41 | Flimzy | tyranix: I want to know what aa_ER means, for instance. Or es_SV. |
| 04:14.42 | shadows | chealer: the kernel-package debian package versioned 9.008-4 |
| 04:14.44 | jjazz | mgoetze: I'll man ssh-agent to see how to load other keys. Thanks. |
| 04:14.44 | Forrestf | for ITE 8212 insta;; |
| 04:14.46 | mgoetze | jjazz: however, you don't actually need another key, just using ssh-agent forwarding should be secure enough |
| 04:14.47 | sciboy | bucky, I believe the british spelling is flimsy. |
| 04:14.49 | dvm1981 | dominicano: And you had not this problem before the upgrad ? |
| 04:15.04 | shadows | chealer: i was looking to get a diff against an make-kpkg from kernel-package 8.something |
| 04:15.04 | bucky | sciboy: you could ask Flimzy |
| 04:15.13 | Flimzy | tyranix: I know they're language and nation codes... but I'd like to see a list of them all, b/c I don't have all lanuage and country codes memorized... or the ISO and UTF code numbers |
| 04:15.13 | mgoetze | jjazz: to add keys, use ssh-add |
| 04:15.14 | jjazz | mgoetze: Ah, so they'll have my key but not the passphrase? |
| 04:15.16 | dvm1981 | dominicano: # |
| 04:15.16 | dvm1981 | HorizSync 28-48 |
| 04:15.16 | dvm1981 | # |
| 04:15.16 | dvm1981 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:15.18 | jjazz | mgoetze: Thanks. |
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| 04:15.33 | dominicano | dvm1981: this problem is old and odd |
| 04:15.38 | mgoetze | jjazz: uh, the passphrase should be only in your memory :) |
| 04:15.41 | chealer | shadows: ah. well, nobody is going to do that for you. try to diff against stable's kernel-package |
| 04:15.43 | Flimzy | bucky, eh? |
| 04:15.47 | sciboy | bucky, But back to being more serious, wireless reception drops for a second, and my debian box doesn't reconnect to the network. |
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| 04:16.03 | sciboy | bucky, I have to /etc/init.d/networking restart etc. manually to bring it back online. |
| 04:16.04 | dvm1981 | oeps |
| 04:16.04 | mgoetze | jjazz: but if you use agent forwarding, you can use your key without putting the private portion on the foreign box |
| 04:16.11 | shadows | chealer: i was trying to do that on my own, however p.d.o is down |
| 04:16.14 | sciboy | Bucciarati, And when the reception drops everything 10 seconds, that's not good. |
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| 04:16.27 | jjazz | mgoetze: agent forwarding? |
| 04:16.27 | sciboy | bucky, That one sentence above was for you. |
| 04:16.30 | dvm1981 | dominicano: HorizSync 28-48 --- VertRefresh 43-72 |
| 04:16.32 | mgoetze | jjazz: so you only need to put your public key on the foreign box, and that is after all what public keys are for ;) |
| 04:16.34 | chealer | shadows: you don't need p.d.o to get stable's kernel-packasge |
| 04:16.45 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I think its not setup correct |
| 04:16.48 | jjazz | mgoetze: Ah, yes, that makes sense. |
| 04:16.48 | bucky | sciboy: any 2.4 Ghz cordless phones in the house? |
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| 04:16.56 | shadows | i'm lazy |
| 04:16.57 | bucky | microwave? |
| 04:16.58 | defenestrate | hey so can someone tell me what causes thunderbird to use konqueror as its default web browser, and how I can change that behavior? |
| 04:16.58 | sciboy | bucky, None. |
| 04:17.06 | tyranix | Flimzy: Have you tried countrycodes? |
| 04:17.07 | bucky | sciboy: ndswrapper? |
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| 04:17.16 | sciboy | bucky, Nope, IPW2100 |
| 04:17.28 | odla | defenestrate: preferences in thunderbird |
| 04:17.31 | mgoetze | jjazz: yeah if you have an ssh-agent running, you can get ssh to contact the agent on the box you started on when logging in to another box from an ssh session |
| 04:17.31 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I had find a website to calculate the refres rate of you're monitor |
| 04:17.37 | sciboy | bucky, I am mainly concerned with getting debian to reconnect to the wireless network automatically. |
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| 04:17.44 | chealer | defenestrate: which desktop environment do you use? |
| 04:17.46 | quik_ | hey folks |
| 04:17.46 | defenestrate | odla: this would seem to be a good idea, but *no* |
| 04:17.46 | mgoetze | jjazz: however, this requires the foreign box to support forwarding |
| 04:17.52 | defenestrate | chealer: wmaker |
| 04:18.04 | quik_ | where can I check if an item has been added to my debian box's sendmail application? |
| 04:18.04 | shadows | sciboy: perhaps some combination of ifplugd |
| 04:18.09 | mgoetze | jjazz: (in fact debian sshd config disables agent forwarding by default) |
| 04:18.13 | dominicano | dvm1981: where is this man? |
| 04:18.16 | defenestrate | quik_: an item? |
| 04:18.23 | odla | defenestrate: have you tried a quick google search? |
| 04:18.24 | dominicano | dvm1981: please I need this.. |
| 04:18.28 | quik_ | an email |
| 04:18.29 | jjazz | mgoetze: It's a web hosting place (I got suckered into admining the website of a non profit), so I have no idea what that box supports. |
| 04:18.30 | dvm1981 | dominicano: http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html |
| 04:18.39 | defenestrate | odla: yes. google results are not really all that good |
| 04:18.39 | SerajewelKS | amarok won't start up anymore... well it does, but the main window is frozen. it doesn't look like it's doing anything, but i can't click any buttons. |
| 04:18.47 | jjazz | mgoetze: OK. This is all good information. I appreciate it. |
| 04:18.49 | SerajewelKS | all i can do is kill it |
| 04:18.52 | mike-_- | Hi, im having some strange problems with the zd1211 driver using debian, all deps are good and all that , the Makefile is editededed, but it refuses to compile cleanly, it did though before i installed debian insted of ubuntu, where it strangly compiled cleanly w/o any hasse , can anyone help? might it be the usbnet and g_ether module missing? |
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| 04:19.04 | phycho | hey guys. ive got a problem with initrd |
| 04:19.05 | Flimzy | tyranix, that may be helpful... thanks. |
| 04:19.08 | mgoetze | jjazz: np :) |
| 04:19.12 | phycho | you have no suitable ramdisk generation tool installed |
| 04:19.14 | phycho | where will i find one? |
| 04:19.15 | dominicano | dvm1981: thanx i gonna try it |
| 04:19.20 | phycho | mkinitrd doesnt appear to exist |
| 04:19.28 | defenestrate | anyway, thought I'd ask |
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| 04:19.50 | dvm1981 | dominicano: It's not really evident, but it's a thing you must do ... because you have troubles with it |
| 04:20.19 | Flimzy | tyranix: Those country codes are used by domain names... do you know if the country codes are always the same for language locales? |
| 04:20.31 | tyranix | Flimzy: Yeah, that works. 'countrycodes aa ER' => El Salvador, Spain. |
| 04:20.39 | odla | a quick google search found the answer to defenestrate's question ;) |
| 04:20.39 | Flimzy | tyranix: thanks |
| 04:20.43 | dvm1981 | dominicano: You're vertical refresh rate are bad i think |
| 04:20.52 | tyranix | wait, wrong line. :) That was for es SV |
| 04:20.59 | knite | I'm on side right now, and I'm thinking I want to drop back to testing. Not sure how much difference it would make, in terms of churn, pacakge consistency, etc. |
| 04:21.06 | knite | s/side/sid/ |
| 04:21.12 | jjazz | odla: Too bad he left the room. There's also a chan specific to that suite's apps, tho I forget what it's called. |
| 04:21.14 | odla | dominicano: if your resolution messed up after upgrading from sarge to etch? |
| 04:21.20 | shadows | chealer: there's not much different |
| 04:21.32 | Newck | tyranix: your nick sounds like 'unix for governments' |
| 04:21.37 | tyranix | Flimzy: Hmmm I'm sure there's a standard they follow but I don't know off hand. |
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| 04:21.39 | tyranix | hehe |
| 04:21.54 | dominicano | dvm1981: no this is the same resolution |
| 04:22.14 | mike-_- | zd1211.o] Error 1 |
| 04:22.33 | knite | i chose sid in the first place because I thought perhaps this way I get security fixes faster, etc |
| 04:22.37 | dominicano | dvm1981: I need to do something, i'll be back in a fwe minutes |
| 04:22.45 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I think when you would like to go to an '1024x768' you must set the refresh a bit lower, bit that's not good for the eyes |
| 04:22.51 | dvm1981 | dominicano: ye |
| 04:22.59 | odla | knite: oh no...sid doesn't get security fixes |
| 04:23.04 | mgoetze | knite: sorry, wrong guess :) |
| 04:23.23 | odla | sarge gets security fixes |
| 04:23.26 | dominicano | dvm1981: I know a low refesh is bad for the eyes |
| 04:23.30 | odla | and i think etch does now too |
| 04:23.32 | knite | don't fixed packages usually get dropped through sid to testing? |
| 04:23.45 | SerajewelKS | odla: through secure-testing.debian.net, not by default |
| 04:23.47 | shadows | etch gets (un?)official security fixes for amd64 |
| 04:23.55 | odla | SerajewelKS: ok |
| 04:24.03 | dominicano | dvm1981: for this reason i can't use a higher resolution, my monitor is only a 15 inch CRT |
| 04:24.18 | SerajewelKS | knite: not security patches. the DSA makes special "security" releases for packages in sarge. the package is never upgraded to a newer version, patches are applied to the old version. |
| 04:24.19 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Here i use 75 on this LCD i want my 85 herts back |
| 04:24.39 | SerajewelKS | s/DSA/security tream/ |
| 04:24.42 | SerajewelKS | team too. |
| 04:24.46 | knite | SerajewelKS: yeah, I understand the "Stable" part of stable. :) My production box runs it. |
| 04:24.49 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I think you need to buy at least a 17 with a good refresh rate |
| 04:24.57 | SerajewelKS | you know you're tired when your s///es require s///es |
| 04:25.12 | SerajewelKS | knite: so you're asking about etch security? |
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| 04:25.36 | SerajewelKS | !secure testing |
| 04:25.40 | knite | on my "play" box, I want something newer than stable, but not sure if testing/sid makes any differnce |
| 04:25.40 | SerajewelKS | hrm |
| 04:25.45 | SerajewelKS | !testing security |
| 04:25.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, testing security is Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/, but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/, ask me about <secure-testing-master apt-key> |
| 04:25.48 | SerajewelKS | knite: ^^^ |
| 04:26.09 | odla | SerajewelKS: knite's running sid because (s)he thought they could get security updates quicker |
| 04:26.40 | odla | knite: sid is pretty cutting edge stuff |
| 04:26.54 | odla | knite: you could run experimental if you really want bleeding edge...he he he |
| 04:26.55 | knite | odla: my production box runs stable. i'm not sure if there's much diff between testing or sid |
| 04:27.03 | SerajewelKS | has unstable been touched in, say, the last week? the unstable source list hasn't been updated in a while. |
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| 04:27.17 | chealer | SerajewelKS: of course |
| 04:27.21 | odla | knite: there is some difference...sid defintely has newer packages |
| 04:27.26 | pepo | how i can install flash for firefox bu apt-get? |
| 04:27.31 | pepo | by* |
| 04:27.32 | SerajewelKS | knite: testing is stabler, sid is newer |
| 04:27.33 | mike-_- | moki, not usbnet ... |
| 04:27.35 | chealer | !tell pepo about flash |
| 04:27.35 | shadows | pepo: not supported |
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| 04:27.37 | odla | !tell pepo about marillat |
| 04:27.43 | tyranix | Flimzy: hey, there's a -d option for domain names. 'countrycodes -d www.test.es' which reports the country. |
| 04:27.47 | SerajewelKS | chealer: why would apt-get update not be pulling in the unstable package list then? |
| 04:27.51 | chealer | odla: what do you mean? |
| 04:27.52 | mgoetze | sid will also occasionally fsck your system when you're not paying attention |
| 04:27.55 | jjazz | mgoetze: I'm all set up with my public key. Works great. Thanks again. |
| 04:28.02 | odla | chealer: you can get flashplayer from marillat |
| 04:28.03 | mgoetze | jjazz: yw :) |
| 04:28.04 | knite | there's gotta be a doc somewhere that describes the technical difference.. |
| 04:28.06 | chealer | SerajewelKS: mirror out of sync? |
| 04:28.06 | odla | right? |
| 04:28.07 | pepo | not sopported? |
| 04:28.18 | mike-_- | why wont the zd1211 compile on my debian boxes? and yes i've searched google... |
| 04:28.18 | Flimzy | tyranix: Yeah, I saw that. but I'm concerned with language codes more than country codes... altho they are often related |
| 04:28.19 | SerajewelKS | chealer: mirrors.kernel.org is my mirror |
| 04:28.20 | knite | mgoetze: hehe, I know, sometimes it won't boot after a kernel upgrade |
| 04:28.30 | jjazz | Here's another question. How can I figure out what distro is on a box? |
| 04:28.40 | k-man | mike-_-, what error do you get? |
| 04:28.43 | mike-_- | check the source.ls |
| 04:28.46 | chealer | odla: so what? why not use flashplugin-nonfree? |
| 04:28.52 | SerajewelKS | jjazz: distro of debian, or distro of linux? |
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| 04:29.03 | deadcat | udev sure gets built realy fast... |
| 04:29.06 | mgoetze | knite: it's pretty simple, when packages have survived some 10 days or so of unstable without any serious bugs filed against them, they get passed on to testing |
| 04:29.08 | odla | chealer: no reason...that's just where i get it from |
| 04:29.13 | jjazz | SerajewelKS: distro of linux |
| 04:29.30 | tyranix | hmmm I thought they were expedited if it's a high priority item from sid. |
| 04:29.35 | SerajewelKS | jjazz: that is a very broad question and you're probably not going to get a specific answer |
| 04:29.37 | chealer | SerajewelKS: it's not mine...anyway, there's clearly something wrong with your mirror if its sid packages list hasn't been updated since one week |
| 04:29.37 | dvm1981 | pepo: Have you read what dpkg tell you ? |
| 04:29.39 | knite | mgoetze: aah. and thus many security patches get to sit through the same delay. makes sense. |
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| 04:30.04 | deadcat | jjazz: you want a cookie? |
| 04:30.07 | mike-_- | k-man, different ver. of the driver seems to give diff errors, some stop at zd1205 and some at zd1211. butem , zd1211.c:2775: error: 'URB_ASYNC_UNLINK' undeclared (first use in this function) something like that and then |
| 04:30.08 | jjazz | SerajewelKS: Yeah, I know. I was hoping somebody would suggest "look for such and such file" |
| 04:30.14 | SerajewelKS | chealer: mirrors.kernel.org is round-robin DNS =/ |
| 04:30.16 | pepo | dvm1981, i did see it ... i am reading now |
| 04:30.18 | mgoetze | knite: well yes, but see what was said a bit earlier about testing security |
| 04:30.19 | odla | deadcat: if you're handing them out i wouldn't mind one |
| 04:30.24 | SerajewelKS | chealer: unless they're all out of sync... |
| 04:30.25 | jjazz | deadcat: no, but I do want you to know I have no clue about non-Debian linuxes |
| 04:30.25 | deadcat | odla: nope |
| 04:30.31 | odla | deadcat: shit |
| 04:30.31 | k-man | mike-_-, oh... sounds difficult to solve |
| 04:30.34 | deadcat | jjazz: oh. |
| 04:30.40 | knite | mgoetze: are you running testing or sid right now? |
| 04:30.46 | k-man | mike-_-, did you check the version of gcc you are using is compatible? |
| 04:30.46 | SerajewelKS | jjazz: if /etc/debian_version exists, it's debian. ask in other distro's channels for their unique files. |
| 04:30.48 | mike-_- | yeam, it really dont say much about whats wrong |
| 04:30.54 | jjazz | SerajewelKS: thanks |
| 04:30.55 | mike-_- | then there was that |
| 04:30.56 | mgoetze | jjazz: cat /etc/issue |
| 04:31.00 | SerajewelKS | jjazz: or it was debian at some point |
| 04:31.09 | jjazz | mgoetze: no such file |
| 04:31.09 | SerajewelKS | jjazz: yeah or /etc/issue =) |
| 04:31.10 | rutski89 | Is this bad when i do /etc/init.d/apache2 restart? |
| 04:31.14 | rutski89 | Starting httpd2 (prefork) httpd2-prefork: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName |
| 04:31.21 | mgoetze | jjazz: well, it's not fedora then :) |
| 04:31.28 | SerajewelKS | rutski89: just set ServerName to shut it up |
| 04:31.33 | mike-_- | k-man, i've tested it on a gcc33 and now here a 4 u think i should try 2.95 :P |
| 04:31.38 | jjazz | and no /etc/debian_version |
| 04:31.39 | mgoetze | knite: not just now, no |
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| 04:31.53 | SerajewelKS | jjazz: check /etc/motd too, might have some info |
| 04:32.00 | mgoetze | jjazz: 'uname -a' might have clues |
| 04:32.00 | k-man | mike-_-, maybe read the doco and see what version they say to use? i honestly have no idea... |
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| 04:32.16 | knite | on sid, there are a whole bunch of packages that have messed up dependencies so I don't upgrade them (or else I'm threatened with the uninstall of like half my system) |
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| 04:32.32 | SerajewelKS | knite: that's one of the benefits of testing |
| 04:32.33 | jjazz | SerajewelKS: no /etc/motd |
| 04:32.36 | knite | i'm wonderin if the dependency situation is better on testing at all |
| 04:32.40 | mike-_- | k-man, the driver is brand new so i'd guess it would compile great with 4 |
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| 04:32.45 | shadows | SerajewelKS: the canadaian mirrors tend to fare better IMO |
| 04:32.48 | odla | knite: do you have apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges installed? |
| 04:32.52 | jjazz | mgoetze: Nothing looks identifiable in uname-a except the kernel ends in .ELsmp |
| 04:33.01 | mike-_- | hum, the driver is brand new... actually just a cupple of days old ... |
| 04:33.04 | knite | odla: probably not, or I don't know about them |
| 04:33.13 | odla | !tell knite about apt-listbugs |
| 04:33.21 | mgoetze | jjazz: EL... maybe Enterprise Linux, as in redhat? |
| 04:33.24 | odla | !tell knite about apt-listchanges |
| 04:33.29 | odla | !tell knite about apt-listchange |
| 04:33.31 | chealer | SerajewelKS: which debhelper version does your mirror have for sid? |
| 04:33.32 | SerajewelKS | chealer: something is out of sync i guess. http.us.debian.org has new etch lists too. |
| 04:33.35 | blujay | Is unstable's Sources list broken? |
| 04:33.48 | odla | wtf...i thought it was called apt-listchange |
| 04:33.58 | jjazz | mgoetze: Yeah, I just googled ELsmp and the responses seem Red Hattish. |
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| 04:34.03 | jjazz | mgoetze: Looks like you win the prize. |
| 04:34.26 | odla | strange...dpkg doesn't know about apt-listchanges |
| 04:34.29 | mike-_- | i'll have to speculate on this, but it seems to not like debian but like ubuntu for some strange reason.... i'll get back to that one though since i dont really know if thats the case or me leaving my head in the door something |
| 04:34.51 | chealer | blujay: what do you mean? sid's apt's default sources.list? |
| 04:34.53 | rutski89 | SerajewelKS: set it to waht? It's already set to "ServerName localhost" |
| 04:35.01 | shadows | mike: ubuntu devs do corner casing for some strange desktop configurations |
| 04:35.02 | knite | hmm... if I want to drop back to testing, i figure I can change my sources to point to testing and wait a week or two for testing packages to catch up. but i know it's not gonna be that easy.... |
| 04:35.05 | blujay | chealer: I'm getting a bzip2 error on unstable's Sources list |
| 04:35.24 | chealer | blujay: ?? when doing what? |
| 04:35.30 | blujay | chealer: when doing apt-get update |
| 04:35.41 | mgoetze | knite: a week or two or twenty ;) |
| 04:35.43 | odla | knite: it will take longer than a week or two most likely ;) |
| 04:35.56 | odla | mgoetze: or when etch is release ;) |
| 04:36.00 | knite | haha |
| 04:36.01 | tyranix | yeah testing still doesn't have tetex 3.0 :/ |
| 04:36.20 | knite | there's not quick way to "apt-get downgrade" LOL |
| 04:36.20 | chealer | blujay: what do you mean exactly? please paste the output somewhere |
| 04:36.31 | odla | knite: yes it's called reinstalling |
| 04:36.38 | tyler | is dillo lighter n faster than opera?? and whats the lightest browser with all the bells n whistles? |
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| 04:36.54 | odla | knite: you could purge your packages, change your sources list to point at testing, then reinstall them |
| 04:36.58 | mgoetze | tyler: i dunno, and w3m, at least FSVO "all" ;) |
| 04:37.02 | odla | knite: but that would be a nightmare...i think |
| 04:37.10 | blujay | chealer: http://pastebin.com/525146 |
| 04:37.11 | knite | odla: and pray that some of my configs survive... :O |
| 04:37.12 | shadows | tyler: mosaic is still compliant |
| 04:37.14 | shadows | despite the rumors |
| 04:37.15 | caducho | can anyone help me out ? Ive got debian sarge 3.1 i386 cds and would like to install the 2.6.8 kernel, but it automatically installs 2.4.7. |
| 04:37.17 | shadows | you might try that |
| 04:37.19 | odla | knite: yup |
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| 04:37.37 | mgoetze | knite: well obviously if you want configs to survive you "remove" instead of "purge"ing |
| 04:37.41 | odla | knite: if nothing is broken now...i think you might just want to change your sources list to testing and wait |
| 04:37.42 | shadows | caducho: you should have installed by booting the install cd with "linux26" |
| 04:37.43 | shadows | i think |
| 04:37.46 | shadows | or debian26 |
| 04:37.47 | knite | odla: i suspect there are core pacakges that are not uninstallable |
| 04:37.49 | shadows | i forget which one |
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| 04:38.14 | mgoetze | knite: anyway, yeah, just change the sources.list and do nothing further... sooner or later you'll be back in sync |
| 04:38.18 | odla | knite: probably but X is and all DE and WMs are |
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| 04:38.44 | chealer | blujay: which apt do you have? |
| 04:38.57 | knite | alrighty then.. back to the sketchy-etch for me then :) |
| 04:39.05 | blujay | chealer: 0.6.43.1 |
| 04:39.16 | odla | caducho: shadows right...type linux26 when you put in the install cd |
| 04:39.21 | chealer | shadows: it's linux26 |
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| 04:39.31 | shadows | chealer: thanks |
| 04:39.32 | e-doll | how do i check the size of a file in MB please? |
| 04:39.37 | caducho | ok, thanks a lot |
| 04:39.39 | shadows | e-doll: du -sh filename |
| 04:39.42 | shadows | i do that for everything |
| 04:39.44 | e-doll | thanks |
| 04:39.46 | shadows | there's many ways to do it |
| 04:40.00 | caducho | shadows; thanks a lot |
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| 04:40.03 | blujay | chealer: it only fails on that one file, all the others are fine |
| 04:40.08 | caducho | odla; thank you dude |
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| 04:40.20 | ghost | hey guys |
| 04:40.34 | mgoetze | e-doll: alias ls='ls -h' |
| 04:40.40 | ghost | dvm1981, vesa worked |
| 04:40.59 | KhanFused | Bluejay, Chealer -- I'm having the same problem ... and others are breaking too |
| 04:41.01 | dvm1981 | ghost: Thats a good thing :-) so now you are in X ? |
| 04:41.08 | ghost | i am |
| 04:41.10 | blujay | KhanFused: which others are breaking for you? |
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| 04:41.22 | KhanFused | blujay - it varies |
| 04:41.22 | ghost | i need to be this is my girls PC now |
| 04:41.31 | ghost | ty tho dvm1981 |
| 04:41.36 | dvm1981 | ghost: Now copy the config file, and try to fine tune now and setup the good one |
| 04:41.40 | KhanFused | some updates I just have the one break that you mentioned (and I c/p'ed in #debian_) ... |
| 04:41.53 | shadows | :) |
| 04:42.04 | LinuxNIT-laptop | hey guys im gonna reinstall linux but ive modified the kde main menu. is there a conf file i can copy so i dont have to re-edit it after the install?? |
| 04:42.05 | KhanFused | others I get a couple of them not working |
| 04:42.14 | blujay | KhanFused: chealer: but when I downloaded the bz2 file and extracted it manually, I got no errors |
| 04:42.15 | dvm1981 | ghost: So now you have an working /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file, copy these |
| 04:42.18 | ghost | ill do that later i have to start learning C# |
| 04:42.26 | ghost | ok why not |
| 04:42.27 | dvm1981 | ghost: hoella |
| 04:42.29 | mgoetze | LinuxNIT-laptop: /home/* |
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| 04:42.43 | LinuxNIT-laptop | mgoetze, i dont want all of home though |
| 04:42.49 | djmarkus | ne1 awake? |
| 04:43.00 | mgoetze | LinuxNIT-laptop: too much pr0n? ;) |
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| 04:43.02 | shadows | LinuxNIT-laptop: erg, ~/.kde ? |
| 04:43.04 | LinuxNIT-laptop | lol |
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| 04:43.13 | dvm1981 | mgoetze: Ha, that's good to know, i not know that detail ;-) |
| 04:43.22 | djmarkus | anyone farmiliar with mepis? |
| 04:43.23 | shadows | LinuxNIT-laptop: ls -a ~/ |
| 04:43.31 | chealer | KhanFused: ah :( since when? |
| 04:43.37 | gravity | djmarkus: #mepis |
| 04:43.37 | shadows | djmarkus: i do pro audio w/ debian, not mepis. no |
| 04:43.46 | chealer | LinuxNIT-laptop: ask #debian-kde |
| 04:43.53 | LinuxNIT-laptop | ok shadows i can take the .kde but i was hopin for a single file |
| 04:44.01 | shadows | anyone with a problem, go somewhere else. now ;)P |
| 04:44.02 | dvm1981 | djmarkus: a little bit, i have a book about it, verry little |
| 04:44.04 | chealer | blujay: sorry, I don't know |
| 04:44.15 | LinuxNIT-laptop | ah didnit know there was #debian-kde |
| 04:44.16 | LinuxNIT-laptop | thanks |
| 04:44.16 | blujay | KhanFused: chealer: In fact, when I got to /var/lib/apt/lists and check the files manually, they look fine, and complete |
| 04:44.34 | blujay | KhanFused: chealer: but when I try to apt-src a source package from unstable, it fails |
| 04:44.40 | mgoetze | LinuxNIT-laptop: while you're reinstalling linux, make sure to create a seperate /home partition, so you have an easier time should you ever need to do it again ;) |
| 04:44.41 | shadows | LinuxNIT-laptop: tar jcvf /tmp/kde-nit-backup.tbz2 ~/.kde |
| 04:44.44 | shadows | there's youre single file |
| 04:44.57 | LinuxNIT-laptop | lol :) |
| 04:45.02 | dvm1981 | djmarkus: If you would like there is an #mepis |
| 04:45.12 | shadows | do not taunt shadows fun ball |
| 04:45.22 | djmarkus | hmm.. well im using mepis but maybe you guys can help |
| 04:45.42 | deadcat | no we cant |
| 04:45.51 | dvm1981 | djmarkus: say what man ;-) |
| 04:46.03 | ghost | thx again guys peace |
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| 04:46.34 | LinuxNIT-laptop | thanks guys and mgoetze gen true but im doin this to clear out all partitions cause ive done so much installing and removing of dif distros i kinda got my partitions screwed up (thats one reaseon anyway) |
| 04:46.54 | LinuxNIT-laptop | :) |
| 04:46.58 | djmarkus | emm.. well i have a 1600x1200 monitor, so i edited xorg.conf accordingly but now the login screen is 1600x1200 but the actual monitor resolution is 1024x768 |
| 04:47.02 | mgoetze | LinuxNIT-laptop: dif distros? you need only one... debian ;) |
| 04:47.05 | LinuxNIT-laptop | lmao |
| 04:47.11 | LinuxNIT-laptop | so ive discovered |
| 04:47.13 | LinuxNIT-laptop | :D |
| 04:47.57 | djmarkus | so im trying to find a way of making the default resolution to 1600x1200 across the board |
| 04:48.27 | dvm1981 | djmarkus: paste you config file to pastebin |
| 04:48.35 | dvm1981 | !pastebin |
| 04:48.35 | dpkg | i heard pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 04:48.37 | mike-_- | djmarkus, editing should help,. but get ut v hz and h hz roght |
| 04:48.40 | dvm1981 | !paster |
| 04:48.40 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
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| 04:49.10 | djmarkus | okie dokie |
| 04:50.00 | djmarkus | http://pastebin.ca/38760 |
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| 04:51.20 | xaxes|free | hey, anybody alive ? :) |
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| 04:51.34 | dvm1981 | djmarkus: Is you're refresh rate not to high for that minitor ? So i switch automatic to a lower one ? |
| 04:51.38 | odla | do all packages enter experimental before they hit sid? |
| 04:51.41 | hulkk | hi, does someone know if there is a way to force firefox to handle text/x-something as text/plain ? |
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| 04:51.53 | stew | odla: no |
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| 04:52.00 | odla | stew: thanks |
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| 04:53.00 | dvm1981 | djmarkus: http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html |
| 04:53.05 | thd | How can I now start my PostgresSQL 7.4 cluster after a problematic install of the multi-version/multi-cluster PostgresSQL architecture that is now the PostgresSQL architecture for etch? If I connect my data cluster with a data sym link from /etc/postgresql/7.4/main Postgres hangs without an error message when attempting to start the cluster. |
| 04:53.06 | unicornrose | Hello everyone. |
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| 04:53.23 | m0se5 | what's that line I run again to make apt stop complaining about authentication? |
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| 04:53.51 | stew | m0se5: /msg dpkg apt secure |
| 04:53.58 | m0se5 | thanks stew |
| 04:54.02 | dvm1981 | djmarkus: Read the link, i find it usefull to setup it, look the page at while |
| 04:54.19 | djmarkus | cheers |
| 04:54.32 | dvm1981 | djmarkus: yep ;-) |
| 04:54.52 | unicornrose | I was wondering if someone could help me find where isapnptools are in my system. I would like to configure them to find my sound card but I am having a devil of a time trying to get to them. |
| 04:55.13 | dvm1981 | unicornrose: locate isapnptools ? |
| 04:55.33 | dvm1981 | unicornrose: 'locate isapnptools' |
| 04:55.42 | stew | unicornrose: apt-get install isapnptools ; dpkg -L isaphptools |
| 04:55.56 | unicornrose | thanks |
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| 04:58.20 | dvm1981 | unicornrose: locate work only on file created a day before if i not wrong so my sugested not help you |
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| 04:58.53 | jjazz | dvm1981: locate works on files that existed before the last updatedb. Some people cron that command daily, but it's not the default AFAIK |
| 04:59.27 | dvm1981 | jjazz: ah yes, it's looks that its default by me then |
| 04:59.45 | djmarkus | whats the X configuration utility called? |
| 05:00.19 | dvm1981 | jjazz: So just running 'updatedb' and he update, thas another great news :-) |
| 05:00.38 | jjazz | dvm1981: Yeah, I'm not sure why it's not the default, as I often set it up to run daily. Maybe there's a security/privacy concern with letting users locate files they couldn't otherwise see. |
| 05:00.44 | jjazz | dvm1981: Run it as root. |
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| 05:01.00 | mgoetze | djmarkus: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 05:01.05 | dvm1981 | jjazz: yep ;-) |
| 05:01.35 | dvm1981 | djmarkus: I have not been understand the question |
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| 05:01.55 | mike-_- | xorgconfig |
| 05:02.48 | ViViD | how do i append a line to a file with a command line? |
| 05:02.59 | ViViD | i cant remember how for some reason |
| 05:03.09 | kreg_work | recommend a thing i can use to keep logs/notes for my work? something that can be input by other users and read by the boss on a daily basis? |
| 05:03.20 | kreg_work | a wiki overkill? |
| 05:04.11 | mgoetze | kreg_work: i think in theory, you want something like opengroupware, and in practice something lighter, like, yeah, a small wiki |
| 05:04.31 | kreg_work | like a web page i guess. but not really a blog i dunno |
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| 05:04.40 | kreg_work | just a place i can make notes and document my work i guess |
| 05:04.44 | kreg_work | for like admin stuff |
| 05:04.48 | kreg_work | other than paper and pencil |
| 05:05.13 | kreg_work | like "rebooted router" or "made changes to DNS, backup file in so and so place" |
| 05:05.24 | mgoetze | kreg_work: there are really simple wikis which can practically be set up just by apt-getting them |
| 05:05.44 | kreg_work | i tried media wiki, but i guess my apache wasn't too php ready or something |
| 05:06.08 | golly | could anyone guide me? what process/script clears my /var/logs when I log off? |
| 05:06.40 | dvm1981 | ViViD: echo 'aaaa' >> ttt |
| 05:06.51 | mike-_- | hmz, might it be the 2.6.14.5 kernel that dont like the zd1211 wlan driver ... |
| 05:06.53 | mgoetze | golly: i don't even have a directory called /var/logs, so i dunno |
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| 05:06.58 | unicornrose | okay the isapnptools are already installed I was wondering how I can configure them. |
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| 05:07.18 | stew | golly: logrotate |
| 05:07.30 | golly | stew: will check it |
| 05:07.34 | stew | golly: look at /etc/logrotate* |
| 05:07.48 | deadcat | i think i rand useradd smbprint, but i am not sure if the package install that account as well or not, can someone with samba check if they have smbprint in passwd or /home/smbprint, thanks |
| 05:08.16 | unicornrose | I like your name deadcat lol |
| 05:08.18 | stew | deadcat: you can look at the postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ that is where it wouldhave been created from |
| 05:08.28 | deadcat | k |
| 05:08.47 | dvm1981 | mgoetze: you are sure ? |
| 05:08.57 | dvm1981 | mgoetze: Without the 's' |
| 05:09.07 | dvm1981 | mgoetze: /var/log/ |
| 05:09.20 | mgoetze | dvm1981: well yeah, i have that one, but stuff there doesn't get deleted whenever i log off |
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| 05:09.33 | mgoetze | dvm1981: so i figured it's not what's being asked about |
| 05:09.41 | deadcat | stew: guess not. i guess i did useradd'ed it because i was following the stupid cups samba howto )= |
| 05:10.03 | dvm1981 | mgoetze: Why he must be deleted ? |
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| 05:10.10 | mgoetze | deadcat: nooo.... don't say the evil c word :( |
| 05:10.31 | mgoetze | dvm1981: the question was: golly: could anyone guide me? what process/script clears my /var/logs when I log off? |
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| 05:10.54 | deadcat | hehe. cups works fine for me. i have a samsung printer. using ipp/http instead of samba+cups though |
| 05:11.02 | dvm1981 | mgoetze: Yes, sorry ... i scrolled back again |
| 05:11.10 | noiesmo | hey all can i use sed to add text to comma delimited file eg 8976,blah,blah,blah i wanna end up with 0089762174,blah,blah |
| 05:11.22 | Benedict_XVI | whoever gave me that command for reconfiguring X, it done the trick, thanks! |
| 05:11.56 | Benedict_XVI | bye |
| 05:11.58 | mgoetze | deadcat: yes, well, just one printer probably isn't so bad. i'll bet you don't have much more than one computer to print from either.... or even more than one user doing the printing... |
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| 05:13.08 | deadcat | mgoetze: i print on the desktop, my laptop to the desktop, and my sis's windows to the desktop. all using IPP |
| 05:14.30 | mgoetze | deadcat: i have about 15 users, 20 computers, and a dozen virtual printers, and that's enough for cups to start being painful :( |
| 05:14.41 | deadcat | hehe |
| 05:15.28 | deadcat | i heard some bad things about cups. but so far i am ok. i had problem but for my laptop, i use the ML-1710 driver instead of the ML-2010 from the samsung cd. it works so i aint complaining |
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| 05:15.51 | golly | stew : that's it. etc/logrotate.d thanks man |
| 05:16.05 | sciboy | Hey guys, i am trying to setup a bridge between my wireless and ethernet using this computer, so i can play online with my PS2. =P |
| 05:16.44 | sciboy | Second i bring the bridge up, the wireless connection doesn't work. |
| 05:16.47 | sciboy | Ping nothing. |
| 05:17.14 | mgoetze | one of these days i'll try lprng, hoping it's less painful, since that will fit in nicely with my little scheme of kerberising everything |
| 05:18.09 | sciboy | Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
| 05:18.13 | chealer | sciboy: just trying, what's your wireless card? |
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| 05:18.56 | sciboy | chealer, Ipw2100 compatible. |
| 05:19.08 | sciboy | chealer, Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini |
| 05:19.09 | deadcat | sciboy: you install the bridge-util package? |
| 05:19.15 | sciboy | deadcat, You bet. |
| 05:19.47 | deadcat | sciboy: http://zd1211.ath.cx/wiki/MasterMode <-- follow this. let me know if it works |
| 05:20.04 | deadcat | sciboy: just switch the devices |
| 05:20.30 | sciboy | deadcat, First off, i'm not the gateway. |
| 05:20.40 | deadcat | sciboy: i know. just ignore that part |
| 05:20.51 | sciboy | deadcat, Second, that pretty much the same as every other guide i've read, and it's what brought me here. =P |
| 05:20.54 | chealer | sciboy: ok, no idea. I remember experiencing something similar, but I never solved it |
| 05:21.07 | deadcat | sciboy: same here (=. those howto DONT WORK |
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| 05:22.06 | deadcat | sciboy: bridging with wireless dont seem to work well. because if you setup the iwconfig stuff to wlan0, and you add a br0, the iwconfig dont work on br0 |
| 05:22.26 | sciboy | deadcat, Hmmm, good point. |
| 05:22.51 | deadcat | sciboy: thats the problem i am having for months |
| 05:23.11 | deadcat | sciboy: i have to setup another subnet for the eth0 device.. which kinna suck |
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| 05:23.21 | sciboy | deadcat, Does that work? |
| 05:24.00 | deadcat | sciboy: very well. |
| 05:24.13 | sciboy | deadcat, So how would i go about doing that? |
| 05:24.21 | deadcat | but bridging is the ideal way we want though |
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| 05:25.07 | sciboy | Well unfortunately the HowTo's i've read on the subject haven't been successful so i'm willing to give other options a go. |
| 05:25.09 | deadcat | sciboy: wifi working. set your eth0 to another network. install udhcpd to listen to eth0, and enable masq |
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| 05:25.46 | sciboy | deadcat, In english that would mean? |
| 05:25.58 | sciboy | deadcat, =P |
| 05:26.01 | deadcat | sciboy: whats your wifi ip? |
| 05:26.07 | deadcat | you can use the script i have. |
| 05:26.09 | sciboy | deadcat, 192.168.1.12 |
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| 05:26.20 | deadcat | set your eth0 to 192.168.0.1 |
| 05:26.49 | deadcat | install udhcpd |
| 05:27.18 | sciboy | Done. |
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| 05:27.29 | deadcat | copy /usr/share/doc/udhcpd/examples/ config file to /etc |
| 05:27.34 | deadcat | edit that file. |
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| 05:28.05 | sciboy | Well that was stupid... |
| 05:28.06 | deadcat | make udhcpd.conf listen to eth0 |
| 05:28.09 | De_Mon | anyone ever had all the services on debian sarge to stop responding, put to still get ping replies? |
| 05:28.11 | dominicano | dvm1991: I've made some changes with the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 command, but the graphical server continue with the old config |
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| 05:28.22 | sciboy | deadcat, Sorry i started following your instructions too early. |
| 05:28.44 | De_Mon | nmap lists the ports open, but none of the services that opened them will respond |
| 05:29.36 | kreg_work | anyone know what ports to forward, open, on a linux firewall NAT gatway if i was to put a hardware VPN device on the inside? |
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| 05:30.19 | ming | seems "java-package" is not in Testing? |
| 05:30.22 | sciboy | deadcat, So i set my wireless to another network, 192.168.0.1 instead of the 192.168.1.x range. |
| 05:30.29 | Gnea | kreg_work: whatever ports it's listening on |
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| 05:30.48 | deadcat | sciboy: just make them in diff network. doesnt matter 0,1, or x |
| 05:31.14 | ming | is java-package in Testing? |
| 05:31.22 | mo1991 | in order to use airnort - should the wireless card be up? meaning connected to the internet or does it just catch the packets in monitor mode without having to be connected? |
| 05:31.24 | dvm1981 | dominicano: typo erno 'dvm1981' of 'dvm' i have not see it direct, chance i scroll back some times |
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| 05:31.51 | sciboy | deadcat, I don't understand what we are trying to do. |
| 05:32.02 | dominicano | dvm1981: I've made some changes with the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 command, but the graphical server continue with the old config |
| 05:32.15 | dominicano | dvm1981: sorry for the flood |
| 05:32.15 | gravity | dominicano: Did you alter the config file by hand at all? |
| 05:32.21 | deadcat | sciboy: we tring to setup another subnet on eth0, and we go through the wireless network |
| 05:32.23 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Read the file '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4' |
| 05:32.54 | dominicano | gravity: no. I didn't chage this |
| 05:33.29 | gravity | hrm |
| 05:33.38 | dvm1981 | gravity: strange |
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| 05:33.54 | gravity | Well, now may be a good time to start editing it by hand :-) |
| 05:34.00 | dvm1981 | dominicano: gravity: reading the file give more info how to not ? |
| 05:34.02 | gravity | It's not like it's a complicated config file |
| 05:34.11 | rvalles | I have a pppoe connection, and I need it to be started at bootup, and to be restarted if it dies. |
| 05:34.14 | chealer | ming: yes |
| 05:34.23 | gravity | dvm1981: What? |
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| 05:34.43 | dominicano | dvm1981: see, i've chage this with dpkg-reconfigure, but the file continue with the same config |
| 05:34.58 | dvm1981 | gravity: '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4' so dominicano can try to solve it |
| 05:35.06 | dvm1981 | dominicano: yes yes |
| 05:35.09 | gravity | dvm1981: I don't understand what you're asking |
| 05:35.29 | tyler | why is it that opera tar.gz after untarring it... i cannot configure? |
| 05:35.34 | dominicano | gravity: i'm asking |
| 05:35.46 | gravity | !xmd5 |
| 05:35.47 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 05:35.49 | IRCFrEAK | hi, i've configured mdadm so that the drives work, but when I restart, they don't auto-assemble, and I have to assemble them manually. Is there a way to fix this? |
| 05:35.49 | dominicano | gravity: not he |
| 05:35.59 | gravity | dominicano: Check out that factoid from dpkg |
| 05:36.02 | dvm1981 | gravity: Sorry i have a bad english, for the problem of dominicano; hi can read the file '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4' to solve his problem ? |
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| 05:36.28 | gravity | dvm1981: He can read it, but he needs to edit it to solve the problem. What dpkg just said is the way to fix his problem. |
| 05:36.40 | gravity | dvm1981: Or he can edit the file by hand, which is perfectly acceptable imho |
| 05:36.47 | dominicano | gravity: DPKG are right, i gonna try it |
| 05:37.11 | dvm1981 | gravity: yes, i have see the dpkg info :-) |
| 05:37.48 | mo1991 | sdfsd |
| 05:37.57 | tilde43 | heso, how do i get md arrays to start at boot time? |
| 05:37.58 | mo1991 | dfsd |
| 05:37.59 | dvm1981 | mo1991: yes you |
| 05:38.00 | mo1991 | sdf |
| 05:38.02 | mo1991 | sdsdf |
| 05:38.04 | mo1991 | asd |
| 05:38.07 | dvm1981 | keyboard works |
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| 05:38.17 | Gnea | !spam |
| 05:38.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, spam is a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) , razor or crm114 (but be ready to train it for a week) |
| 05:38.30 | dominicano | gravity: but he says "if you hand-edit" i didn't hand edit this |
| 05:38.35 | gravity | dominicano: Don't worry about it. |
| 05:38.45 | gravity | dominicano: The command won't hurt you at all. |
| 05:38.54 | gravity | dominicano: It may not change anything, but that's the worst it'll do |
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| 05:39.15 | dominicano | gravity: hmm ok |
| 05:39.15 | mike-_- | Hi, if anyone knows errors like the once i have here, please help please http://pastebin.ca/38765 |
| 05:40.01 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Try to solve you're problem man ;-) im understand sometimes it can be see strange, but you understand it later |
| 05:40.13 | ming | chealer: but apt-get install java-package says package not found, what happened? |
| 05:40.26 | gravity | mike-_-: It looks like your driver has a mismatch with your kernel's internal API. You may need a newer or older version of one or the other. That's just a guess though from my experiences with ndiswrapper. |
| 05:40.28 | pearl | ming: easy thinb |
| 05:40.32 | pearl | thing |
| 05:40.37 | dvm1981 | ming: package not found |
| 05:40.45 | pearl | go to apt-get.org, search for java-package |
| 05:40.53 | pearl | add the source and run apt-get update |
| 05:41.00 | dvm1981 | ming: Its not the good one you search, he find it not |
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| 05:41.34 | Guerin | mike-_-: 1. don't build as root; 2. don't build using make, build using make-kpkg for kernel modules or checkinstall or debian/rules for other stuff |
| 05:41.34 | ming | i c |
| 05:41.34 | ming | thx |
| 05:41.34 | mike-_- | gravity, it is from the 25 this month, trying a new kernel tyough |
| 05:41.34 | pearl | and again apt-get install java-package |
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| 05:41.38 | Gnea | mike-_-: have you checked the mailing list? |
| 05:41.39 | mike-_- | Guerin, thanks will do |
| 05:41.52 | chealer | !tell ming about contrib |
| 05:41.53 | mike-_- | nope , but i've checked alot |
| 05:42.20 | pearl | hmm |
| 05:42.24 | ming | great, got it |
| 05:42.34 | pearl | !tell pearl about contrib |
| 05:42.37 | dvm1981 | !tell dvm1981 about contrib |
| 05:42.38 | pearl | hehe |
| 05:42.40 | dvm1981 | interesting |
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| 05:42.51 | pearl | dvm1981: yea |
| 05:42.53 | dvm1981 | others also it seems :-) |
| 05:43.04 | Gnea | mike-_-: hrm yeah, there is a zd1211-source package |
| 05:43.04 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.26 | Gnea | mike-_-: along with a firmware package as well |
| 05:43.34 | Gnea | mike-_-: those probably work better |
| 05:44.05 | mike-_- | nope not them either Gnea |
| 05:44.09 | dominicano | gravity: dvm1981: i've made the changes |
| 05:44.14 | mike-_- | hoping its the kernel |
| 05:44.19 | dvm1981 | Guerin: Yes, that work great, i make a note, thx |
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| 05:44.23 | mike-_- | i'll rebot now and get back here |
| 05:44.23 | deadcat | mike-_-: zd1211.athx.cx |
| 05:44.24 | dominicano | gravity: dvm1981: I need restart it, right? |
| 05:44.31 | deadcat | mike-_-: thats all you need to know |
| 05:44.47 | dvm1981 | dominicano: no |
| 05:44.52 | dvm1981 | dominicano: wait a bit |
| 05:45.03 | mike-_- | i've seen it but thanks for the truble |
| 05:45.04 | dvm1981 | dominicano: try to restart only x |
| 05:45.09 | mike-_- | brb |
| 05:45.17 | dominicano | dvm1981: ok. |
| 05:45.31 | dominicano | dvm1981: CTRL+ALT+Backspace |
| 05:45.42 | dvm1981 | dominicano: no |
| 05:45.43 | dominicano | dvm1981: see you soon |
| 05:45.45 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Try to good way |
| 05:45.50 | dvm1981 | dominicano: /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 05:45.56 | dominicano | dvm1981: oka |
| 05:46.02 | dvm1981 | dominicano: with root user |
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| 05:47.13 | ming | I found the "java-package" apt source is for woody, can I still use it? |
| 05:47.28 | Guerin | ming: java-package is in sarge |
| 05:47.42 | Gnea | ming: no need, each distro has its own updated version of it |
| 05:47.45 | Guerin | ming: you just asked dpkg about contrib, why aren't you taking his advice? |
| 05:47.59 | Gnea | Guerin: dpkg is a 'he'? |
| 05:48.07 | dvm1981 | Guerin: Is there a list with al commands for talking to dpkg and so... |
| 05:48.20 | Guerin | !gender |
| 05:48.20 | dpkg | I'm gay |
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| 05:48.30 | dvm1981 | sure |
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| 05:48.36 | Gnea | dvm1981: you keep asking that... the answer is the same. |
| 05:48.42 | dvm1981 | dominicano: you won some time to not reboot the pc |
| 05:48.47 | rene- | sup, i want to play with linux vserver and i like debian, ive found a repository that claims that i can get one up and running by issuing apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 is that true? has aynone set up a VServer with debian |
| 05:49.00 | dominicano | dvm1981: i've restart the x, as you told me.... |
| 05:49.08 | Guerin | dvm1981: no, because dpkg knows more than 26,000 different things, and you don't want to know them all. Your head would explode. |
| 05:49.32 | dominicano | dvm1981: the refresh rate are killing my brain |
| 05:49.33 | dvm1981 | Guerin: Yes, thats right, it's a spider or so, a bot |
| 05:49.40 | Gnea | rene-: apt-get works great, you may need to configure some things... don't know about vserver... |
| 05:49.44 | Guerin | rene-: if it's not actually debian, we can't support it. I've never even heard of this vserver thing you're on about... |
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| 05:49.52 | dominicano | dvm1981: it is the worst, 60 khz |
| 05:50.03 | dominicano | dvm1981: i mean 60 hz |
| 05:50.04 | Guerin | unless it's the one IBM or someone were just taking about releasing as free software |
| 05:50.07 | dominicano | dvm1981: brrr |
| 05:50.16 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Try with another one, do not reboot the pc, restart only x, is mush faster and you not need to reboot in Linux, only for kernel upgrades |
| 05:50.34 | dvm1981 | dominicano: You're monitor.... No more commments .... |
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| 05:52.04 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I think you're monitor is to old, not really good for you're eyes, i will not force you to buy another, but sometimes the minimal investement are needed, think for you're eyes |
| 05:52.06 | mike-_- | new kernel didnt help. but used the same config so might be that |
| 05:52.38 | deadcat | mike-_-: you trying to compile the zd1211 right? |
| 05:52.47 | Kerosene | anybody know how to stop network log file from going to stdout? |
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| 05:52.54 | mike-_- | deadcat, yep |
| 05:53.01 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I think you're monitor is to old, not really good for you're eyes, i will not force you to buy another, but sometimes the minimal investement are needed, think for you're eyes |
| 05:53.12 | gravity | ... |
| 05:53.14 | deadcat | mike-_-: cat /proc/version, see what gcc its using. install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 05:53.32 | dvm1981 | sorry repeating, but he was go one |
| 05:53.40 | dominicano | dnv1981: i've found a good refresh rate to my eyes 75 hz |
| 05:53.43 | rene- | Guerin: vserver is a way to run many linux instances in the same box, akin to vmware and has nothing to do with linux cvirtual server projetc that is more about making many machines act like one |
| 05:53.43 | mike-_- | deadcat, using kernel source, and gcc 4 tested 3.3 and 3.4 even 2.95 :Å |
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| 05:54.02 | dvm1981 | dominicano: it's a good one to begin |
| 05:54.02 | dominicano | dvm1981: i've found a good refresh rate to my eyes 75 hz |
| 05:54.08 | mike-_- | but i'll try headers |
| 05:54.11 | deadcat | mike-_-: make sure you compile the driver with the same gcc as the kernel |
| 05:54.20 | rene- | there are packages for debian that supposedly turn your debian installation into a host for other linux systems to run concurrently |
| 05:54.26 | dominicano | dvm1981: i gonna buy a new one, later |
| 05:54.37 | dvm1981 | dominicano: money money money |
| 05:54.42 | rene- | the other linux instances can be debian but dont need so they can be mandrake! |
| 05:54.50 | Guerin | rene-: woo. |
| 05:54.52 | mike-_- | deadcat, not that i didnt know, but i just compiled it so its using 4 , think im missing ndsiwrapper |
| 05:54.53 | dvm1981 | dominicano: The importantest thing in the world |
| 05:54.54 | dominicano | dvm1981: yeah man, that is the reason |
| 05:55.00 | mike-_- | stuff |
| 05:55.07 | pearl | money for nothing and the chips for free, hehehe |
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| 05:55.23 | dvm1981 | not like free beer |
| 05:55.23 | deadcat | mike-_-: nah. i just use zd1211 on the x86 and ppc,, no problem. VERY NICE driver |
| 05:55.40 | mike-_- | mhm, i used it with x86 ubuntu , np |
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| 05:56.04 | mike-_- | but that was a less miked kernel |
| 05:56.07 | deadcat | mike-_-: ah. ubuntu has the driver already |
| 05:56.24 | mike-_- | darn |
| 05:56.31 | deadcat | mike-_-: adn you should ask in #ubuntu |
| 05:56.37 | mike-_- | well it compiled anyway |
| 05:56.58 | rene- | Guerin: im guess iam out of luck |
| 05:57.03 | mike-_- | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.21 | dvm1981 | dominicano: If you would like, i have here an 14" inch not used, but that not to use, if have an other 17" that i not use but there are some troubles with the contrast or how to say it's 'flou' |
| 05:57.30 | mike-_- | maybe * |
| 05:58.00 | dvm1981 | dominicano: So i can not help you, to give one, i also need money money money |
| 05:58.13 | mike-_- | hmz, test a debian kernel them ... |
| 05:58.28 | dominicano | dvm1981: but is very expensive shiping somethin from europa to the caribbean |
| 05:58.54 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Yes, right, i have not think to that, it's another problem ;-) |
| 05:58.56 | rene- | dominicano buy from the US |
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| 05:59.40 | dominicano | dvm1981: rene: in my country i can buy one a very low price |
| 06:00.21 | dominicano | dvm1981: rene: because if you buy one from the usa, the shiping still be Expensive |
| 06:00.52 | dominicano | dvm1981: rene: with the shiping cost, you can buy another one |
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| 06:01.12 | dvm1981 | dominicano: The last i buy one 17" in 2de hands for my sister for +- 150 euro |
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| 06:01.29 | rene- | screens are expensive to ship |
| 06:01.35 | dvm1981 | dominicano: A flat screen, a good one, i like good stuff ;-) |
| 06:02.03 | dominicano | dvm1981: ahh a flat screen is very good |
| 06:02.10 | dvm1981 | rene-: the weight of it |
| 06:02.27 | SoloFlyer | mmm 6 foot plasma flat screen : |
| 06:02.29 | SoloFlyer | :) |
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| 06:03.00 | dvm1981 | dominicano: It's was for my sister, i have buy it for her, and i not like to buy some things that are not good, it's for my sister he |
| 06:03.05 | SoloFlyer | anyone in here using ipt_ROUTE ? |
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| 06:03.28 | dvm1981 | making a cup of coffe |
| 06:03.43 | dominicano | dvm1981: i get it |
| 06:03.48 | dominicano | dvm1981: i use KDE, but in my upgrade to etch, the KDE doesn't change, i still have the 3.3 kde |
| 06:04.04 | dvm1981 | dominicano: huhnm |
| 06:04.08 | SoloFlyer | more specifically anyone in here noticed the ipt_ROUTE is a little dodgy..? |
| 06:04.17 | SoloFlyer | read very dodgy |
| 06:04.22 | dvm1981 | dominicano: not normal i think, first the coffe, i need it ;-) |
| 06:04.42 | dominicano | dvm1981: me too... |
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| 06:04.58 | mike-_- | my gay kernel that was the problem |
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| 06:05.52 | dvm1981 | taking a little break of 15 mins |
| 06:06.28 | mike-_- | thanx, now im off to see what the problem was.... think i need to make myself a .config file with nothing more than what i need i it.. wont remember this in a year or 2days |
| 06:08.31 | Guerin | mike-_-: what was gay about the kernel? |
| 06:08.42 | Guerin | mike-_-: i didn't realise kernels could have sexual preferences. |
| 06:08.53 | mike-_- | :) mine do |
| 06:08.54 | Guerin | or maybe it was pink and liked handbags or something |
| 06:09.05 | deadcat | Guerin: hes a ubuntu user i think (= |
| 06:09.18 | mike-_- | hehe, no debian , jumped from ubuntu |
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| 06:09.33 | mike-_- | got lots of freecds in the mail ,had to try em |
| 06:09.50 | mike-_- | makes linux look good to my freinds and stuff |
| 06:10.03 | SoloFlyer | lol |
| 06:11.02 | mike-_- | tried switching apt server from ubuntu to debian.... that really wacked things up... |
| 06:11.12 | SoloFlyer | hahaha |
| 06:11.29 | rene- | so what is the current mapping of sexual preference and distro preference? |
| 06:11.31 | mike-_- | you know ther's gonna be a problem when it says u need to type. Yes, do as I say! |
| 06:11.42 | deadcat | !u |
| 06:11.43 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 06:12.03 | mike-_- | u u u u u |
| 06:12.37 | mike-_- | my distro perferes mice over 30 |
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| 06:13.06 | mike-_- | and the kernel, well modules that dont work |
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| 06:14.42 | mike-_- | i think i need to go rest a while... 7 am ... time flyes when pounding the keyboard in search of the holy grail |
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| 06:15.02 | mike-_- | thanks alot for all the help, bye |
| 06:15.14 | deadcat | stop being so dramatic, you're working on linux. not searching for holy grail. |
| 06:15.27 | SoloFlyer | is ipt_ROUTE in the testing kernel? |
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| 06:17.21 | SoloFlyer | and nth |
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| 06:19.23 | ke6isf | deadcat: Sure beats the hell out of Microsoft though. |
| 06:19.28 | SoloFlyer | lol |
| 06:19.33 | ke6isf | !lol |
| 06:19.34 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 06:19.59 | SoloFlyer | fsck u |
| 06:20.01 | SoloFlyer | :) |
| 06:20.31 | deadcat | ke6isf: what you mean? |
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| 06:20.53 | eds | hello |
| 06:20.59 | SoloFlyer | hi |
| 06:21.05 | ke6isf | deadcat: Eh, never mind. Fried brain tonight. =O.o= |
| 06:21.06 | Guerin | SoloFlyer: you want to check his filesystem? |
| 06:21.22 | Guerin | SoloFlyer: you should try to get to know him a bit before you start with that sort of thing... |
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| 06:21.42 | Guerin | then again, if you're used to flying solo ... |
| 06:21.45 | SoloFlyer | rm-rf /home/ke6isf |
| 06:21.55 | Guerin | bash: rm-rf: command not found |
| 06:21.56 | ke6isf | SoloFlyer: Sorry, I don't fsck with users I don't know. |
| 06:22.02 | SoloFlyer | lol |
| 06:22.03 | ke6isf | SoloFlyer: You gotta be root to do that. |
| 06:22.13 | eds | haller |
| 06:22.21 | SoloFlyer | su root rm-rf /home/ke6isf |
| 06:22.26 | Guerin | bash: rm-rf: command not found |
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| 06:22.32 | ke6isf | !beer Guerin |
| 06:22.33 | SoloFlyer | lol |
| 06:22.33 | Guerin | oh wait |
| 06:22.36 | Guerin | Password: |
| 06:22.51 | Guerin | SoloFlyer: you have to enter your root password now |
| 06:22.53 | deadcat | not familiar with sudo rm -rf eh? |
| 06:23.03 | eds | heyyyy' |
| 06:23.21 | ke6isf | SoloFlyer: My password is a 2048-bit encrypted string of random letters, numbers, and punctuation - and nothing in the string can be found in the dictionary. Good luck. |
| 06:23.45 | SoloFlyer | yes but if sudo isnt installed it doesnt work very well |
| 06:23.55 | SoloFlyer | :) |
| 06:24.06 | Guerin | SoloFlyer: what you typed doesn't work very well under any circumstances, though |
| 06:24.16 | eds | :) smile |
| 06:24.18 | Guerin | !hackerssmite ke6isf |
| 06:24.21 | Guerin | bah |
| 06:24.24 | SoloFlyer | neither does rm -rf / but eh |
| 06:24.31 | SoloFlyer | people still say it |
| 06:24.44 | deadcat | just go to his place and kick his ass. |
| 06:24.47 | ke6isf | Just what *would* be the result of 'rm -rf /', anyway? |
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| 06:25.08 | Guerin | ke6isf: try it and see |
| 06:25.20 | ke6isf | Guerin: Riiiight. Maybe on a box that I intend on reinstalling. |
| 06:25.33 | SoloFlyer | last time i ran it it deleted everything alphabetically until it got to /bin/rm |
| 06:25.40 | Guerin | ke6isf: no, really. It's only dangerous if you're root, or if you have shit in / which shouldn't be there |
| 06:25.42 | SoloFlyer | then it stoped |
| 06:25.48 | Guerin | SoloFlyer: and then what? |
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| 06:26.01 | Guerin | SoloFlyer: funny, since, rm is stored in ram. |
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| 06:26.10 | ke6isf | SoloFlyer: Sounds like it didn't get as far as /dev or /etc |
| 06:26.24 | SoloFlyer | yes true but this was on freebsd... |
| 06:26.34 | SoloFlyer | never done it under linux |
| 06:27.14 | ke6isf | You know, I do have this box that I was going to set up for some mundane function, like ntp or something. Maybe I"ll do it just to tool around. |
| 06:28.00 | rvalles | dpkg: marillat |
| 06:28.01 | dpkg | hmm... marillat is (from memory, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid>) |
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| 06:28.09 | rvalles | dpkg: marillat key |
| 06:28.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, marillat key is gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 06:28.10 | ke6isf | !tell rvalles -about msg the bot |
| 06:28.39 | rvalles | ke6isf: oops O:-) |
| 06:28.56 | ke6isf | rvalles: Sankyu. |
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| 06:30.01 | SoloFlyer | i wonder what dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda does if you are using and have say sda1 mounted.. |
| 06:30.26 | Gnea | SoloFlyer: oh who's system? |
| 06:30.40 | Gnea | s/oh/on/g |
| 06:31.17 | SoloFlyer | ke6isf seems to have a box he wants dead |
| 06:31.45 | ke6isf | SoloFlyer: Well, it's sitting powered off. IT's one of those things I can do if I decide I'm incredibly bored. =^^= |
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| 06:32.25 | Gnea | SoloFlyer: i wouldn't worry about it then :) |
| 06:32.53 | ke6isf | Gnea: You're probably right. If I'm that bored on Sunday, I can help out in here. =^^= |
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| 06:33.27 | dominicano | dmv1981: how your coffee was? |
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| 06:34.34 | dvm1981 | dominicano: it's dvm1981, otherwise, it's not write in red, and no bell, my coffe wait me, i give a little support to my girlfriend, i must do something for his, |
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| 06:34.58 | dvm1981 | dominicano: And you ? is he good ? |
| 06:35.40 | dvm1981 | dominicano: There is a tip, type the first letters of my nick, the push the 'tab' key |
| 06:35.53 | dominicano | dmv1981: i wrote your name wrong |
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| 06:36.02 | dominicano | dmv1981: sorry |
| 06:36.35 | dominicano | dvm1981, the two first letter you mean :=) |
| 06:36.48 | dominicano | dvm1981, thanks for the tip |
| 06:37.12 | dvm1981 | dominicano: depending of the nicks already exists |
| 06:37.12 | SoloFlyer | cya |
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| 06:37.30 | dominicano | dvm1981, now man. I gonna sleep for a while |
| 06:37.37 | dominicano | dvm1981, sure it depends |
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| 06:37.52 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Oke, i see you later again here ;-) |
| 06:38.11 | ma3x | Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks... |
| 06:38.11 | ma3x | fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda |
| 06:38.15 | ma3x | what should I do about that? |
| 06:38.18 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Sleep well man ;-) thinking to Debian and it goes better ;-) |
| 06:38.20 | dominicano | dvm1981, i made apt-get install kde, and the apt is downloading a lot of packages, u guess from kde 3.4 |
| 06:38.43 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Hope it |
| 06:39.06 | dominicano | dvm1981, thanks, see you |
| 06:39.11 | Guerin | ma3x: Hope you don't have any data you want on there. |
| 06:39.43 | ma3x | Guerin, are you kidding? it's my debian partition |
| 06:39.45 | dvm1981 | dominicano: ;-) |
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| 06:39.57 | Guerin | ma3x: / or /home? |
| 06:40.02 | ma3x | Guerin, / |
| 06:40.09 | ma3x | Guerin, and the other partition /dev/sda shows the same |
| 06:40.11 | Guerin | ma3x: separate /home? |
| 06:40.15 | ma3x | how come suddenly? |
| 06:40.25 | ma3x | Guerin, I have /home, but it's all on one partition |
| 06:40.50 | Guerin | ma3x: well... i'd guess you don't have much option but to format. |
| 06:40.56 | Guerin | ma3x: try debugfs |
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| 06:41.21 | dvm1981 | How i can mount a floppy disk in cli mode ? 'mount -t vfat /media/floppy0' ?? |
| 06:41.40 | dvm1981 | That not work, not the good filesystem. Wish is it ? |
| 06:41.59 | shadows | Guerin: there was a significant amount of change between kernel-package package in debian etch testing, and debian sid unstable, i've come to a resolution for the "2.6.15.1" kernel packaging problem and have installed (on advices from some friendly folks in #d-k oftc) the unstable version of kernel-package |
| 06:42.17 | ma3x | Guerin, and what should I type there now? |
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| 06:42.35 | Gnea | dvm1981: is there an entry in /etc/fstab for /media/floppy0? |
| 06:42.37 | Guerin | shadows: yeah. make-kpkg used to presume a x.x.x version number |
| 06:42.47 | Guerin | ma3x: help |
| 06:42.53 | dvm1981 | Gnea: Yep, |
| 06:43.03 | Gnea | dvm1981: and it is...? |
| 06:43.15 | dvm1981 | Gnea: /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 06:43.29 | ma3x | Guerin, and then what? how do I fix it? |
| 06:43.30 | odla | can use use amsn with an aim account? |
| 06:43.32 | Gnea | just mount /media/floppy0 |
| 06:43.41 | Guerin | ma3x: i don't know. read the help. |
| 06:43.46 | Gnea | dvm1981: you don't need to specify filesystem, that's what 'auto' is for |
| 06:43.52 | Guerin | odla: you have my permission |
| 06:44.02 | Guerin | odla: i'd prefer you used irssi and bitlbee, though |
| 06:44.08 | Gnea | Guerin: loser |
| 06:44.18 | odla | Guerin: so you can? |
| 06:44.24 | Guerin | Gnea: hey ... I found it! |
| 06:44.28 | odla | Guerin: i didn't know you could use irssi? |
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| 06:44.29 | dvm1981 | Gnea: Yes, that's right but it not work, i wait for the erno |
| 06:44.30 | odla | that's sweet |
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| 06:44.38 | meriad_ | hey.. |
| 06:44.40 | shadows | odla: it works marginally IMO |
| 06:44.43 | meriad_ | is ther any console image viewer? |
| 06:44.45 | XPEH | wassap everybody |
| 06:44.58 | Gnea | dvm1981: error is very important :) |
| 06:45.00 | Guerin | odla: bitlbee is an im->irc gateway. use any irc client to connect to im.bitlbee.org, enter some account info, and go hard |
| 06:45.06 | shadows | meriad_: do you mean to type a command and initiate an X11 display of a picture? |
| 06:45.14 | ke6isf | XPEH: Gesundheit. |
| 06:45.15 | meriad_ | shadows newp |
| 06:45.16 | shadows | meriad_: or an svgalib viewer |
| 06:45.16 | ma3x | I can't find anuything useful in that help for debugfs |
| 06:45.21 | ma3x | I don't know how to fix the fs |
| 06:45.24 | ma3x | will you help me? |
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| 06:45.27 | meriad_ | shadows i mean displaying a picture in console mode :LL> |
| 06:45.31 | shadows | meriad_: please declare what you're intending to do with this |
| 06:45.31 | Guerin | ma3x: fbi |
| 06:45.32 | Guerin | meriad_: fbi |
| 06:45.34 | meriad_ | shadows no frame buffer :> |
| 06:45.34 | dvm1981 | Gnea: If i do 'mount /media/floppy0' he say mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 06:45.35 | meriad_ | fbi? |
| 06:45.41 | meriad_ | apt-get : fbi |
| 06:45.42 | Guerin | meriad_: fbi. |
| 06:45.49 | ke6isf | !fbi |
| 06:45.50 | dpkg | well, fbi is the Federal Bureau of Investigation, or the frame buffer image viewer |
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| 06:46.15 | meriad_ | i know what fbi is |
| 06:46.17 | meriad_ | dude |
| 06:46.19 | meriad_ | thast why i was saying |
| 06:46.20 | meriad_ | no frame bnuffer |
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| 06:46.30 | Guerin | meriad_: oh. |
| 06:46.35 | SlayerXP | can ne1 help me to install radeon driver rpm in gentoo?!?!?!? (running in vmware under windows vista beta) |
| 06:46.41 | dvm1981 | Gnea: Any suggestions ? |
| 06:46.47 | Guerin | SlayerXP: heh. |
| 06:46.50 | Gnea | !ne1 |
| 06:46.50 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 06:46.51 | shadows | SlayerXP: you're out of your mind if you are seriously asking that in this chan |
| 06:46.57 | shadows | ;) |
| 06:47.05 | SlayerXP | sha1sum: YHBT, HAND. |
| 06:47.06 | Gnea | !gentoo |
| 06:47.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 06:47.08 | SlayerXP | err |
| 06:47.08 | Guerin | shadows: SlayerXP has been out of his mind since Slayer3.0 |
| 06:47.12 | Guerin | err |
| 06:47.14 | SlayerXP | shadows: YHBT, HAND. |
| 06:47.23 | shadows | what the heck is HAND |
| 06:47.25 | meriad_ | i lve you guys |
| 06:47.26 | meriad_ | yer my nigga |
| 06:47.29 | SlayerXP | Have And Nice Day |
| 06:47.39 | Gnea | !troll SlayerXP |
| 06:47.40 | shadows | who says that? |
| 06:47.46 | shadows | !troll SlayerXP |
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| 06:47.50 | SlayerXP | troll? me? |
| 06:47.55 | SlayerXP | I'm shocked at thevery suggestion |
| 06:48.00 | Guerin | SlayerXP: i see living in scandinavia isn't helping your enrish very much |
| 06:48.14 | Guerin | SlayerXP: i prescribe a long course of "going to a sunny place" |
| 06:48.20 | SlayerXP | Guerin: taths juts completery untrue |
| 06:48.34 | shadows | Guerin: insulting others does little to bolster your appearances |
| 06:48.43 | jm_ | sunny place? he should be used to dismal weather, he's from UK :) |
| 06:48.45 | Guerin | SlayerXP: and lay off the pickled herrings and akavit for a few day^Whours |
| 06:48.53 | shadows | i'd say that Guerin and SlayerXP are a team |
| 06:48.58 | Guerin | shadows: would you stop being so fucking uptight |
| 06:49.00 | SlayerXP | you may have a point |
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| 06:49.26 | Guerin | shadows: there's a long tradition of #debian regulars insulting each other and trolling non-regulars for a laugh |
| 06:49.44 | dvm1981 | Mounting a floppy disk. How to ?? 'mount /media/floppy0' -- mount: you must specify the filesystem type, fstab are right and floppy fs is auto there |
| 06:49.45 | Guerin | i'd say a noble tradition |
| 06:49.51 | Guerin | but it's not very noble, just long |
| 06:49.53 | lakbu | how can I view the connected workstations of my dhcpd server? |
| 06:50.03 | SlayerXP | lakbu: check the leases file |
| 06:50.13 | meriad_ | yoooo so |
| 06:50.18 | meriad_ | a image viewer in console without fb |
| 06:50.29 | fulld | how do I install a package from unstable? I have the unstable source set up, but it keeps selecting the boring, stable package |
| 06:50.34 | Guerin | meriad_: svgalib does seem like the bet |
| 06:50.39 | shadows | it's the bad apples on debian IRC which prevent an enlightened atmosphere |
| 06:50.46 | SlayerXP | fulld: if you have to ask that, you are not yet ready to run unstable |
| 06:51.02 | Guerin | meriad_: I know mplayer can use it, and I know it can write jpegs and so on, I'm just not sure if it can read them. |
| 06:51.20 | Guerin | !tell shadows about fable |
| 06:51.22 | shadows | fulld: you could increment the version using the debian/changelog before building it, then hold it |
| 06:51.27 | lakbu | SlayerXP, where's that leases file located? |
| 06:51.34 | SlayerXP | lakbu: on your hard disk |
| 06:51.38 | Guerin | shadows: what would you know, you've been here ... what, a week? |
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| 06:51.50 | fulld | cool, thakns |
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| 06:52.09 | shadows | i won't even respond directly |
| 06:52.09 | lakbu | SlayerXP, my hard dick? |
| 06:52.22 | shadows | merely state that i've been a reg for longer than any G* |
| 06:52.30 | shadows | it saddens me :/ |
| 06:52.52 | Guerin | shadows: and if you're going to tell me to stfu, at least do it in-channel, where people can see |
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| 06:52.54 | shadows | fulld: sure. i mean, that's what i do. it's hackish but it does get the job done |
| 06:53.12 | SlayerXP | yeah, we might want to join in |
| 06:53.23 | shadows | now now man, be cool |
| 06:53.33 | shadows | he needs help just like the n00bs do |
| 06:53.38 | SlayerXP | Guerin: stfu rfn yfn, ok? |
| 06:53.39 | shadows | it's fair he has a chance |
| 06:53.44 | Guerin | omg, lolz |
| 06:54.03 | shadows | ^^^^ tired man? |
| 06:54.04 | shadows | :( |
| 06:54.12 | meriad_ | how do i use svgadisplay |
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| 06:54.14 | shadows | sleep can take the edge off |
| 06:54.34 | Agraj | I'm looking for a little program that I dimly remember that claimed to let you customize the behavior of metacity windows and such |
| 06:54.42 | shadows | meriad_: hey, that svgalib stuff is kind of... "old" i would say and requires a kernel module which tends to not like to build and operate securely |
| 06:54.49 | shadows | meriad_: what's your target objective? |
| 06:54.53 | Agraj | it was supposed to run on top of metacity and make it conifgurable or something |
| 06:54.56 | meriad_ | shadows porn |
| 06:55.01 | shadows | meriad_: hmm |
| 06:55.13 | Guerin | yeah, you'd be saner to build a framebuffer kernel and use fbi |
| 06:55.18 | meriad_ | reall? |
| 06:55.20 | meriad_ | ko |
| 06:55.26 | Guerin | yeah, svgalib is a bit of a mess |
| 06:55.29 | shadows | meriad_: let's say you are doing a slideshow of *looks up and to the left* business presentation slides |
| 06:55.30 | meriad_ | ok |
| 06:55.31 | meriad_ | done |
| 06:55.34 | Guerin | needing root by default, and all |
| 06:55.43 | meriad_ | uhh obviously |
| 06:55.48 | meriad_ | u think if i went to order piza |
| 06:55.54 | meriad_ | they'd let me pay the mtoomormow? |
| 06:56.04 | meriad_ | i will give anyone anythign if you gimme 10 bux tll satuhdf |
| 06:56.05 | meriad_ | shee |
| 06:56.05 | meriad_ | bye |
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| 06:56.21 | shadows | that was weird |
| 06:56.25 | Guerin | i suppose that's what either too much or not enough porn does for someone |
| 06:56.51 | shadows | or perhaps an angry mom finding her son up late on the computer |
| 06:56.54 | fwhite | how is everyone tonight? |
| 06:57.00 | Guerin | heh |
| 06:57.19 | fwhite | might anyone reccomend a good newbie chat room for debian? |
| 06:57.21 | Guerin | fwhite: i'll know in about three hours |
| 06:57.22 | shadows | fwhite: happy enough for the moment ;) i had some trouble earlier with building a kernel |
| 06:57.28 | shadows | all well now |
| 06:57.42 | dvm1981 | fwhite: it's 8:00 am here in Belgium |
| 06:57.44 | shadows | fwhite: #debian, much to the dismay of some bad apples here who think that insulting others is the way to go |
| 06:57.52 | shadows | this is a friendly place to ask questions |
| 06:58.16 | fwhite | i'm havin big time troubles with compiling a built in wireless adapter and also installing stuff with the dpkg command. :/ |
| 06:58.31 | shadows | hm. it can be kind of intimidating |
| 06:58.37 | shadows | which would you like to start with? |
| 06:59.18 | fwhite | well the good thing to start with is installing a .deb file with dpkg. i've gotten it loaded in the hard drive, so that battle is won. :) |
| 06:59.48 | dvm1981 | shadows: How do you do that '* ...' |
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| 07:00.07 | fwhite | that * is cool. |
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| 07:00.25 | shadows | new to IRC? /me is new to IRC |
| 07:00.48 | fwhite | ah ok the pose command. :) |
| 07:00.53 | fwhite | i forgot about that one. |
| 07:01.01 | fwhite | been awhile since i IRC'ed. |
| 07:01.04 | dvm1981 | shadows: yes, 2 weeks ago, i not like chatting, but here is not the same thing i find |
| 07:01.12 | shadows | must be a long, long time ago if you forget about /me |
| 07:01.15 | hermione | when i run alsaconf i see Running update-modules... |
| 07:01.15 | hermione | Loading driver... |
| 07:01.15 | hermione | FATAL: Module snd_ not found. |
| 07:01.17 | fwhite | IM clients tend to overshadow IRC these days. |
| 07:01.29 | dvm1981 | shadows: hi hi |
| 07:01.30 | shadows | hermione: alsa-modules are likely not installed |
| 07:01.37 | shadows | dvm1981: yep |
| 07:01.42 | hermione | what can i do? |
| 07:01.45 | dvm1981 | shadows: I take a note of it ;-) |
| 07:01.48 | Guerin | well |
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| 07:01.54 | Guerin | snd_ isn't a module anywhere |
| 07:01.57 | Guerin | snd is |
| 07:02.15 | fwhite | one good start is that i can use root level functions without loggin in as root. :) |
| 07:02.31 | shadows | thank tiki gods for sudo |
| 07:02.55 | fwhite | but trying to install the .deb is still quite the frustrating task. it keeps telling me it can't find the file i specify. |
| 07:03.00 | shadows | i'd install a .deb package foo.deb with: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb |
| 07:03.16 | shadows | maybe the file has a space character in the filename? |
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| 07:03.36 | ke6isf | shadows: Why aren't you using apt-get? |
| 07:03.49 | shadows | you will need to escape the non-alphanumeric characters, and when i say that, i am meaning "my file name with a few spaces.extension" |
| 07:03.53 | shadows | using double quotes |
| 07:04.02 | shadows | ke6isf: to install a deb file? |
| 07:04.03 | Guerin | or you could just use tabcompletion |
| 07:04.06 | Guerin | like a sane person |
| 07:04.18 | ke6isf | shadows: Or fwhite rather. |
| 07:04.36 | fwhite | dpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4.1_i386.deb (--install): |
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| 07:04.43 | fwhite | that's what i get. |
| 07:04.46 | shadows | hm |
| 07:04.54 | shadows | if you like, use pastebin.com to post the full error |
| 07:04.56 | Guerin | fwhite: put the full output of apt-get -f install; on paster |
| 07:05.06 | ke6isf | fwhite: Use gaim. |
| 07:05.13 | shadows | *snicker* |
| 07:05.19 | fwhite | it says it cannot process the archive: No such file or directory. |
| 07:05.51 | fwhite | hey that's right...gaim works on irc. :) |
| 07:06.05 | dvm1981 | shadows: I have try another trick, and think give you an private msg. Right ? |
| 07:06.12 | ke6isf | fwhite: Barring that, xchat makes a better irc client, and gaim covers everything else. |
| 07:06.15 | shadows | dvm1981: sure, thanks for asking |
| 07:06.26 | Guerin | fwhite: just put the full output up |
| 07:06.27 | shadows | think give away |
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| 07:07.10 | dvm1981 | i write a bug report ... |
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| 07:07.18 | fwhite | can i copy paste the stuff in shell>? |
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| 07:07.26 | jm_ | not here |
| 07:07.33 | dvm1981 | fwhite: yes |
| 07:07.41 | shadows | fwhite: select with mouse, middle mouse button = paste |
| 07:07.46 | shadows | be very cautious |
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| 07:07.49 | dvm1981 | fwhite: 'xclip' are verry usefull |
| 07:07.52 | tilde43 | hi, my mdadm arry won't work on an initial boot without manual activation, I suspect this is because the SATA drives load after MDADM tries to load. How do I fix this? |
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| 07:08.05 | ma3x | e2fsck 1.39-WIP (31-Dec-2005) |
| 07:08.05 | ma3x | Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks... |
| 07:08.05 | ma3x | fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda |
| 07:08.08 | ma3x | how can I fix the fs? |
| 07:08.12 | shadows | tilde43: heh. heh. |
| 07:08.21 | shadows | tilde43: you sure you want to know? ;) |
| 07:08.23 | tilde43 | ? |
| 07:08.30 | tilde43 | oh dear god |
| 07:08.39 | shadows | yeah it's a fun one |
| 07:08.41 | tilde43 | have I hit one of those things that will require about a million man hours of work |
| 07:08.54 | tilde43 | and I should take my script I have to run after boot and be happy? |
| 07:08.57 | Supaplex | it's tax deductable ;) |
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| 07:09.28 | fwhite | dpkg: error processing ymessenger_1,0,4,1_i386.deb (--install): |
| 07:09.29 | fwhite | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:09.29 | fwhite | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 07:09.29 | fwhite | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:09.29 | shadows | tilde43: this isn't nearly as scary as the "which comes first, the mdadm or the lvm2?" |
| 07:09.44 | tilde43 | ah |
| 07:09.47 | tilde43 | so what do iI do |
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| 07:09.54 | shadows | first a few questions |
| 07:09.58 | shadows | are you using the initrd? |
| 07:10.09 | tilde43 | no idea |
| 07:10.12 | fwhite | i got kicked for flooding it said. :S |
| 07:10.12 | dvm1981 | !tell pastebin |
| 07:10.14 | tilde43 | actually |
| 07:10.15 | tilde43 | no |
| 07:10.20 | shadows | fwhite: the idea is not to flood |
| 07:10.26 | dvm1981 | !pastebin |
| 07:10.26 | dpkg | i guess pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 07:10.27 | tilde43 | i have a boot disk not attached to the raid |
| 07:10.36 | dvm1981 | or |
| 07:10.39 | dvm1981 | !paster |
| 07:10.39 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 07:10.41 | fwhite | oh |
| 07:10.43 | shadows | tilde43: okay, the second is which kernel version |
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| 07:10.50 | tilde43 | 2.6.15 |
| 07:11.00 | shadows | glad |
| 07:11.12 | shadows | i would suggest building it with make-kpkg |
| 07:11.24 | shadows | and use the mkinitramfs tool for your initrd |
| 07:11.39 | shadows | like, start using an initrd. it's easier to configure what gets done |
| 07:11.51 | mith | wtf is the carrier number in ifconfig? |
| 07:11.52 | tilde43 | agh |
| 07:11.56 | shadows | read some forums, suck down a few gallons of coffee |
| 07:11.56 | tilde43 | i'd rather not recomple |
| 07:11.59 | shadows | you should be mint |
| 07:12.31 | fwhite | ok i'm on the paste page |
| 07:13.23 | dvm1981 | fwhite: and paste the url only here |
| 07:13.49 | fwhite | ok i just used pastebot. |
| 07:13.54 | shadows | fwhite: be cautious, there is a duplicate buffer system for X11 |
| 07:13.56 | dvm1981 | fwhite: and not the content of somethings or you kicked out of here |
| 07:14.20 | shadows | fwhite: one buffer for selection, one different buffer for copied information |
| 07:14.29 | shadows | it takes a while to get used to |
| 07:14.30 | fwhite | duplicate buffer system? |
| 07:14.32 | fwhite | oh ok. |
| 07:14.52 | fwhite | so where does the pasted stuff go? |
| 07:15.00 | fwhite | i put the error msg in it. |
| 07:15.12 | dvm1981 | fwhite: and paste the url here of the msg |
| 07:15.13 | shadows | sometimes the keyboard "shift+insert" keys will paste, other events require middle mouse button paste |
| 07:15.17 | fwhite | ohhh |
| 07:15.36 | fwhite | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1652 |
| 07:15.41 | shadows | and a third option for KDE/GNOME user is right click and do "Paste" menu option |
| 07:15.43 | fwhite | there we go. |
| 07:16.12 | dvm1981 | fwhite: no ,,, |
| 07:16.15 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 07:16.15 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 07:16.18 | shadows | are there commas in the filename? |
| 07:16.18 | dvm1981 | fwhite: but ... |
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| 07:16.29 | fwhite | oh crap :O |
| 07:16.41 | dvm1981 | fwhite: ymessenger_1,0,4,1_i386.deb |
| 07:16.43 | fwhite | don't tell me it failed cuz i was hittin comma the whole time. >< |
| 07:17.40 | fwhite | hmm...still messes up with .'s instead of ,'s. |
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| 07:18.06 | shadows | fwhite: there is an enhancement to type out a filename most appropriately |
| 07:18.19 | shadows | say you want to list the filename "my file.txt" |
| 07:18.32 | dvm1981 | yes, explain him |
| 07:18.32 | shadows | you can do: ls my[now hit tab] |
| 07:18.40 | shadows | and hit tab where it says [now hit tab] |
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| 07:18.49 | fwhite | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1653 |
| 07:18.54 | fwhite | there's the better one. |
| 07:19.17 | shadows | the other way is: ls "my file.txt" |
| 07:19.23 | dvm1981 | fwhite: read what shadows say you |
| 07:19.44 | dvm1981 | fwhite: you do another error, hi not find you're file |
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| 07:19.57 | dvm1981 | fwhite: listen to shadow |
| 07:20.02 | fwhite | ok |
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| 07:20.39 | Ep|phany | hi |
| 07:20.40 | dvm1981 | fwhite: Scroll back again, hi give you an gold trick that help you to resolve you're current proble; |
| 07:20.48 | fwhite | ok. |
| 07:21.13 | Ep|phany | im running a p2 with damn small linux of harddrive. how can i tell what sound cards i have and how can i get these sound cards to workk? |
| 07:21.18 | rvalles | I have a pppoe connection to my ISP, handled by my debian box |
| 07:21.36 | rvalles | if I kill pppd (I suppose, if ppp dies too), it doesn't reconnect automatically, |
| 07:21.46 | dvm1981 | Ep|phany: #dsl |
| 07:21.53 | rvalles | how do I make it so that I'm sure that it is always kept? |
| 07:21.55 | Ep|phany | none in that channel |
| 07:22.06 | sep | i get a XFS filesystem error sd(8,17), how can i find out what disk/partition that relates to ? |
| 07:22.10 | Ep|phany | and i thought damn small linux is based of debian |
| 07:22.17 | dvm1981 | Ep|phany: it's not correct, im still there, one person, im |
| 07:22.40 | Ep|phany | okay |
| 07:22.46 | Ep|phany | so can you help me in that channel then? |
| 07:23.01 | dvm1981 | Ep|phany: eeeuuuhhmmm, here is ok ;-) |
| 07:23.04 | fwhite | it worked :) |
| 07:23.06 | fwhite | sorta |
| 07:23.10 | dvm1981 | Ep|phany: But i not know if i can help you |
| 07:23.12 | jm_ | sep: devices.txt |
| 07:23.13 | shadows | fwhite: a change is nice |
| 07:23.21 | dvm1981 | fwhite: thx to shadows |
| 07:23.26 | sep | jm_, thanks |
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| 07:23.34 | fwhite | i got a different error msg, but at least it processed. |
| 07:23.41 | shadows | very good |
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| 07:23.59 | witless | how do i prevent vga16fb from loading, and load nvidiafb instead? |
| 07:24.32 | jm_ | sep: looks like sdb1 |
| 07:24.37 | shadows | witless: hmm |
| 07:24.49 | shadows | witless: probably on the initrd |
| 07:25.03 | shadows | otherwise, just leave vga16fb out of your kconfig |
| 07:25.07 | shadows | if you go that way |
| 07:25.13 | sep | jm_, so the 8 mean scsi and 17 means prist partition on sdb.. |
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| 07:25.35 | jm_ | sep: yes, 8 is SCSI |
| 07:25.37 | sep | since 16 is sdb.. |
| 07:25.42 | rvalles | I have a pppoe connection to my ISP, handled by my debian box. If I kill pppd (I suppose, if ppp dies too), it doesn't reconnect automatically. how do I make it so that I'm sure that the connection is always kept up? |
| 07:25.42 | witless | shadows: if it gets loaded, it's in use when i'm at the console, right? is it possible to remove it and use nvidiafb without rebooting? |
| 07:26.04 | shadows | witless: possible to do that with the modules yes, useful likely not |
| 07:26.16 | sep | so there is a max 15 partitions limit on a drive is it... since when 0-15 = sda... |
| 07:26.38 | shadows | witless: it's a bad, bad, bad idea to do that after the kernel has initialized the video buffers once for a driver |
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| 07:27.22 | witless | shadows: thanks |
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| 07:27.53 | fwhite | yahoo didn't work because of dependancy problems. |
| 07:28.04 | shadows | fwhite: well, okay |
| 07:28.09 | hcy | help! when doing a regular routine apt-get upgrade, some of the packages had dependency problems and at the end it said "Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 07:28.09 | hcy | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:28.09 | hcy | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:28.09 | hcy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:28.27 | shadows | fwhite: what i usually do is "apt-get install (dependency)" for each (dependency) |
| 07:28.28 | fwhite | i'm guessing because i have to download other stuff, possibly kernels to make it work. |
| 07:28.33 | hcy | sorry i didn't mean to flood, didn't realize there were multiple lines there |
| 07:28.55 | shadows | hcy: please make a habit to paste in a non-IRC window first |
| 07:29.07 | hcy | shadows: I said sorry :) |
| 07:29.15 | hcy | I don't usually do that |
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| 07:29.30 | cplx | I cant su to root.. su "permission denied" any ideas? |
| 07:29.40 | shadows | cplx: you're in Ubuntu ? no |
| 07:29.43 | hcy | anyway how can I roll those packages back to the previous working versions so I can use latex again? |
| 07:29.44 | dondelelcaro | cplx: you must not be using Debian. |
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| 07:29.57 | fwhite | what is apt-get-install? |
| 07:29.58 | shadows | dondelelcaro: beat ya to it :) |
| 07:30.12 | shadows | fwhite: 'apt-get' is a frontend program to dpkg |
| 07:30.16 | cplx | dondelelcaro: centos.. rofl |
| 07:30.18 | fwhite | ahhh. |
| 07:30.20 | sanmarcos | is there a way for cvs to automatically use no pasword (for login in to public servers) ? |
| 07:30.21 | shadows | makes it easier and handles package dependency |
| 07:30.41 | dvm1981_lpt | fwhite, use 'apt-get install <package>' |
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| 07:30.46 | hcy | shadows: does it have a roll-back option? |
| 07:31.01 | shadows | hcy: not that i know of |
| 07:31.17 | hcy | shadows: ok so what do you do when you have problems like mine? |
| 07:31.17 | dondelelcaro | cplx: #centos is that way |
| 07:31.18 | dvm1981_lpt | fwhite, to install somethings; the debian reference explain it great |
| 07:31.22 | fwhite | ahh |
| 07:31.40 | dvm1981_lpt | fwhite, have you read it ? |
| 07:31.43 | fwhite | debian reference? where do i find that on the net? |
| 07:31.52 | shadows | hcy: i cry about it for a week or two until it gets fixed, or track down the problematic packages install them and set a --hold on the package versions ;) |
| 07:31.52 | dondelelcaro | !reference |
| 07:31.53 | dpkg | [reference] The Debian Reference. Will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. |
| 07:32.01 | fwhite | cuz i will gets to the readin if i am able to save it. :( |
| 07:32.02 | dvm1981_lpt | fwhite, debian website man |
| 07:32.06 | fwhite | :) rather. |
| 07:32.10 | fwhite | ok |
| 07:32.27 | shadows | hcy: if something doesn't work, the usual idea is to see if there's something i can fix by going to a newer version |
| 07:32.27 | hcy | shadows: ok i cry a lot too, i'll try the second method though |
| 07:32.31 | shadows | heh |
| 07:32.35 | shadows | sounds like a plan |
| 07:32.35 | dvm1981_lpt | fwhite, the website is the place to begin |
| 07:32.49 | hcy | shadows: yes, but if it's the newer one that's broken? |
| 07:32.58 | shadows | then it is bug report time |
| 07:33.14 | shadows | are you using sarge (stable) ? |
| 07:33.16 | hcy | yes, but in the meantime i really need to use latex |
| 07:33.22 | hcy | shadows: no it's sid |
| 07:33.29 | shadows | then you are asking for trouble, sir |
| 07:33.33 | dvm1981_lpt | he im back on my laptop, etch, i missing a good translator like 'babytrans' in Stable; any suggestions |
| 07:33.37 | hcy | sid, not sir lol |
| 07:33.52 | shadows | sid is unstable, and means it is not expected to work |
| 07:33.54 | shadows | ever. |
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| 07:34.00 | hcy | it usually does |
| 07:34.10 | shadows | the fact that it does is a healthy coincidence |
| 07:34.11 | dondelelcaro | hcy: then downgrade it to a version of latex that actually works |
| 07:34.18 | fwhite | i bookmarked it. :) |
| 07:34.19 | dondelelcaro | (or tetex-bin in this case) |
| 07:34.21 | shadows | dondelelcaro: i wasn't sure how he could do that |
| 07:34.27 | hcy | dondelelcaro: right, so how do you do that |
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| 07:34.33 | fwhite | i'm gonna read it tomorrow, but i think it's bedtime for me soon. |
| 07:34.44 | shadows | fwhite: have a pleasant night, sir :) |
| 07:34.49 | dondelelcaro | hcy: add a sources.list line to snapshot.debian.net for the appropriate packages, and then pick and install the version that you need/want. |
| 07:34.58 | witless | shadows: would i pass video=nvidiafb to the kernel at boot? |
| 07:35.06 | fwhite | i got it to install on the hard drive at least. :) that battle is won. and to think i actually installed it from the latest knoppix disk. |
| 07:35.11 | hcy | dondelelcaro: great, thanks :) |
| 07:35.23 | shadows | witless: oh. man, it's been a long time since i used an fb module. yes there is something like that, to make it not use VESA |
| 07:35.29 | dvm1981_lpt | fwhite, do a search about 'tldp' - the linux documentation; and bookmark it also |
| 07:35.37 | witless | shadows: thanks |
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| 07:35.43 | fwhite | tldp? will do. |
| 07:35.46 | shadows | witless: best bet may be google for other users configs, be sure to seek out 2.6.x kernel users |
| 07:35.48 | dvm1981_lpt | the linux documentation project -- please |
| 07:35.51 | fwhite | night guys and thanks again. |
| 07:35.56 | dondelelcaro | hcy: although, it sounds like a problem on your site, because 3.0-13 works just fine here. |
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| 07:36.01 | myren | i have one machine i have a differnt username for. is there any way to make it so when i ssh or scp into that machine, I dont have to type username@ all the time? |
| 07:36.10 | dondelelcaro | myren: set it up in your .ssh/config |
| 07:36.16 | dondelelcaro | myren: man ssh_config for details |
| 07:36.39 | hcy | dondelelcaro: i dunno i haven't a clue |
| 07:36.44 | shadows | myren: one way is to change the username, the other is an ssh authentication |
| 07:36.52 | shadows | the methods are different approaches |
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| 07:37.13 | shadows | and solve differing problems; security and usability |
| 07:37.20 | dondelelcaro | hcy: oh, I see your problem now. Follow the instructions that dpkg is going to tell us and give us the complete output. |
| 07:37.24 | dondelelcaro | !tell hcy -about bat |
| 07:37.30 | Guerin | hm, is e17 usable yet? |
| 07:37.43 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: I don't think e16 is usable, so... ;-) |
| 07:38.05 | Guerin | heh |
| 07:38.06 | shadows | e17 works nicely on zaurus devices soon |
| 07:38.07 | Guerin | well |
| 07:38.07 | hcy | dondelelcaro: ok thanks i'll get right to it |
| 07:38.15 | shadows | justin P is doing development at a brisk pace |
| 07:38.28 | row | what happened to the Finance::Bank::Barclays perl lib in debian archives, I can't find it but it used to be there? |
| 07:38.32 | shadows | it has no appeal to me on a desktop computer though |
| 07:38.36 | row | was it removed for security reasons? |
| 07:39.03 | shadows | night time for shadows. ciao |
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| 07:39.12 | Guerin | i'm setting this laptop up to go on the road, and since i'll be bringing it up and down exclusively with suspend2 and hibernate, i need one windowmanager for me, my wife and my travelling companion |
| 07:39.17 | dondelelcaro | row: iirc, that one was removed because barclays changed its interface and it no longer worked at all. |
| 07:39.27 | Guerin | i haven't the heart to make them use evilwm and a terminal |
| 07:39.34 | row | dondelelcaro: I can't find any tho :/ |
| 07:39.38 | dvm1981_lpt | shadows, see you later here |
| 07:39.38 | row | no hsbc nothing |
| 07:39.39 | row | :( |
| 07:39.40 | dondelelcaro | row: if you think it still should, use dh-make-perl --build --cpan Finacne::Bank::Barclays; and then dpkg -i the resultant package. |
| 07:40.03 | row | dondelelcaro: oooo never knew I could do that |
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| 07:42.13 | dondelelcaro | row: you'll probably need to install fakeroot, build-essential, and dh-make-perl first, of course. |
| 07:42.37 | Roy_M | hi, im trying to install madwifi-ng on a debian system for the first time. When I try an ¨apt -get install¨ it tells me that madwifi-n-tools depends libc 2.3.5. Does this mean that i need the new glibc, because i cant find libc6. Thanks in advance, I´m a newbie :) |
| 07:42.50 | zu22 | greets |
| 07:43.32 | jm_ | Roy_M: it means it's not a package for your release |
| 07:43.33 | hcy | dondelelcaro: i may have isolated the actual problem, can you come to #flood? |
| 07:44.41 | Roy_M | jm_: So if i wanted to install that package i would need a different debian release, using sarge at the moment? |
| 07:45.03 | jm_ | Roy_M: yes, libc6 2.3.5 is in sid, it's not recommended for newbies to use sid |
| 07:45.39 | Roy_M | jm_: oh ok thanks |
| 07:45.51 | jm_ | Roy_M: Etch also has 2.3.5, but it also has its own share of problems |
| 07:45.57 | dondelelcaro | hcy: give the ouptut of /tmp/tetex.postinst.XXqC9AVH |
| 07:46.33 | dondelelcaro | Roy_M: you want a backport of madwifi-ng to stable; backports.org or apt-get.org probably has one |
| 07:46.42 | jm_ | yeah check if it;s available there |
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| 07:47.15 | Roy_M | backport do you mean an older version? |
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| 07:47.34 | hcy | dondelelcaro: all the /tmp/tetex.postinst.* files are empty |
| 07:47.43 | jm_ | no, backport means a port to older release, not an older package |
| 07:47.45 | ma3x | why is my usb mouse not working? |
| 07:48.14 | dvm1981_lpt | why i have not many money ? |
| 07:48.22 | Roy_M | haha ok ill check that out, thanks |
| 07:48.54 | row | dondelelcaro: I have those apart from dh-make-perl, thanks for the tip tho, just never knew it was that easy to build a perl lib deb, it worked nicely. lib works too :D |
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| 07:50.07 | hcy | dondelelcaro: i also posted in #flood the results of apt-cache policy tetex-bin like your message suggested |
| 07:50.13 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, say a bit more if possible |
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| 07:50.42 | dondelelcaro | row: yeah, for most of the trivial packages, it's fairly easy... the only ones that get complex are the ones that need to be compiled and link against libraries. |
| 07:50.44 | hcy | the tetex files in /tmp are 0 length though, weirdly enough |
| 07:51.18 | dondelelcaro | hcy: hrm... well, it sounds like you don't have a /etc/texmf/fmtutil.conf and you don't have a /etc/texmf/fmt.d/ with stuff in it |
| 07:51.41 | dondelelcaro | hcy: if you think that's in error, you probably need to use confmiss to install them so fmtutil can complete |
| 07:51.57 | dvm1981_lpt | nobody have reply how to i can dowload money :-/ |
| 07:52.12 | dvm1981_lpt | :-( |
| 07:52.29 | hcy | dondelelcaro: confmiss? ok i'll look for its manpage |
| 07:52.40 | dvm1981_lpt | !tell dvm1981 about money |
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| 07:52.42 | myren | anyone know which is more performant; aes or blowfish? |
| 07:52.47 | myren | i'm having trouble googling the topic |
| 07:52.53 | hcy | dondelelcaro: i don't have such a program |
| 07:53.04 | jm_ | use openssl benchmark to find out |
| 07:53.08 | dvm1981_lpt | !money |
| 07:53.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, money is the root of all evil, but see http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 07:53.31 | dvm1981_lpt | okay a talk with dpkg |
| 07:53.43 | myren | arg |
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| 07:53.46 | ma3x | dvm1981, I removed hotplug, could that be the reason? |
| 07:53.51 | row | dondelelcaro: it did have to link against some stuff but that was not a problem I just installed them from normal debian archives. :) |
| 07:54.08 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, you know you're problem it seems ;-) |
| 07:54.23 | hcy | you're right, i don't have /etc/texmf/fmtutil.conf . I do have /etc/texmf/fmt.d/ though, with "00tex.cnf 01tetex.cnf 50cyrtexinfo.cnf" in it |
| 07:54.27 | opqdonut | does the net install cd support proxies? |
| 07:54.34 | myren | jm_: oh, thats a *lot* easier than i epxected |
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| 07:54.49 | dondelelcaro | !tell hcy -about confmiss |
| 07:54.53 | ma3x | dvm1981, I installed udev, removed hotplug and now usb mouse is not working in KDE. in the console it's working but not in KDE |
| 07:54.55 | jm_ | myren: yeah, it has built-in speed command |
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| 07:55.05 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, reinstall it and let it know about the state of you're problem |
| 07:55.14 | thechris | i have a fast question -- does debian's installer (stable) support EVMS volumes? |
| 07:55.23 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, o wait |
| 07:55.25 | myren | jm_: built in doesnt mean it doesnt require 800 parameters |
| 07:55.29 | opqdonut | thechris: yes iirc |
| 07:56.00 | ma3x | dvm1981, waiting... |
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| 07:56.11 | thechris | opqdonut: then i may be trying out 32bit debain soon. |
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| 07:56.35 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, i thinking about |
| 07:56.53 | opqdonut | thechris: don't trust my memory :) at least it has lvm support |
| 07:57.08 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, try to do 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree' |
| 07:57.17 | ma3x | dvm1981, no way! |
| 07:58.06 | kaleid | yeah |
| 07:58.08 | SerajewelKS | hmm, does monodevelop not have method/constructor aid popups or do i need to enable something? |
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| 07:58.36 | kaleid | but you must enter some values that I don't understand with the reconfiguration of the x-server |
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| 07:59.09 | kevinv | What is the command to compile source code and package it into a deb file afterwards? |
| 07:59.16 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, i have type an typo erno |
| 07:59.18 | SerajewelKS | kevinv: dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 07:59.28 | JordiGH | Hey. I have no sound in KDE. I don't even know where to begin looking for problems. It's not an issue about permissions... I'm in the audio group and even if I run KDE as root I don't get any sound. Where should I begin? :( |
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| 07:59.33 | kevinv | thanks, I'll go read the manpage. |
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| 08:00.47 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, would you reconfig the xserver ? |
| 08:01.00 | JordiGH | Running the testing distribution i386 arch. |
| 08:01.00 | kaleid | yeah |
| 08:01.11 | kaleid | but I edited the file |
| 08:01.25 | kaleid | with my "hands" |
| 08:01.39 | kaleid | excuse for my kind of speakeing |
| 08:01.42 | kaleid | speaking |
| 08:01.48 | kaleid | i'm from uruguay |
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| 08:02.16 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, no problem; im in Belguim |
| 08:02.37 | kaleid | :) |
| 08:02.44 | dondelelcaro | kevinv: if possible, you're better off using the debian package to start with for whatever you're compiling. |
| 08:02.55 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, read the file '/etc/X11/XFree86Config' |
| 08:03.06 | JordiGH | Hm, easier question, perhaps: how can I know which device is associated to my sound card? |
| 08:03.11 | kaleid | ok, i'm going |
| 08:03.18 | sts9 | cant seem to figuyre out what package provides "/usr/bin/play" found bplay in packages, where does play come from cause I dont have it |
| 08:03.19 | jm_ | cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| 08:04.04 | kaleid | I have a problem with the initialization of the X |
| 08:04.11 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, typo error in file name; i hope you find it; i use here xorg |
| 08:04.32 | JordiGH | jm_: Thanks. Hm, here's definitely a sound card listed there. But is aRts trying to use /dev/dsp, or what? |
| 08:04.37 | kaleid | xorg? |
| 08:04.48 | kaleid | I have sarge...you Sid? |
| 08:04.49 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, you run Stable ? |
| 08:05.07 | kevinv | I am compiling a few different tarballs from sourceforge which do not have rpms or debs. I need an easy way to distribute these applications to my other computers on the network. |
| 08:05.17 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, testing etch |
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| 08:05.46 | kaleid | etch...ok |
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| 08:05.54 | dvm1981_lpt | kevinv, read the maintainers manual; it explain how to build an deb |
| 08:05.55 | kevinv | I do not which to install devel packages on those systems, limited hard disc space on them. |
| 08:05.59 | kaleid | I didn't try it |
| 08:06.03 | hcy | dondelelcaro: despite using confmiss, it still has the same problem. |
| 08:06.26 | jm_ | JordiGH: dsp is OSS device, might be, I am not familiar with KDE |
| 08:06.44 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, begin with Stable; then go to Testing when you feel it, then Unstable; if you really feel it after testing |
| 08:07.00 | hcy | dondelelcaro: i even apt-get --purge remove'd the packages and then reinstalled them again with confmiss, but while it installs other new config files, it still complains about missing that fmtutil.conf file, and quits with an error |
| 08:07.07 | kneet | I want to get hold of the config file for a debian kernel - is there an easier way than downloading the deb and extracting it? |
| 08:07.16 | kaleid | i'm very happy with sarge, it's like rock...never hang it up |
| 08:07.21 | JordiGH | jm_: Would more prodding around /proc give me information? |
| 08:07.21 | jm_ | sts9: /msg dpkg search |
| 08:07.30 | jm_ | JordiGH: information about what? |
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| 08:08.12 | JordiGH | jm_: Sigh.... I don't know. I don't even know what I need to know in order to get sound working. :( |
| 08:08.13 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, yes; Testing and Unstable are for thoses know the system good; i will not say that i know it good hé |
| 08:08.34 | JordiGH | sts9: You should also look at this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-search.en.html#s-apt-file |
| 08:08.42 | kaleid | I understand |
| 08:08.44 | jm_ | JordiGH: unmute it |
| 08:08.52 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, i have on testing here; on the laptop; i also test testing in virtuals computer -> vmware |
| 08:09.00 | kaleid | how much time with debian have you? |
| 08:09.12 | kaleid | vmware....didn't try it too |
| 08:09.27 | sts9 | hey, thanks. didnt know dpkg did that |
| 08:09.40 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, hhhmmm thinking, a year or two Debian, first i have begin with red bad |
| 08:09.41 | sts9 | is there a wiki on the dpkg bot? |
| 08:09.52 | kaleid | jajaja |
| 08:09.54 | kaleid | red bad |
| 08:10.02 | kaleid | I started with suse |
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| 08:10.07 | dvm1981_lpt | !bad |
| 08:10.07 | dpkg | from memory, bad is Bay Area Debian, or what I am, and you know it! |
| 08:10.12 | jm_ | naah, the best way to learn about its features is to hang here and observe |
| 08:10.33 | dvm1981_lpt | !good |
| 08:10.35 | kaleid | with debian only 5 months...but didn't have much time to explore it :s |
| 08:10.40 | dondelelcaro | hcy: this looks like some variant of #345637 |
| 08:11.06 | myren | my xorg stopped working with this latest dist-upgrade |
| 08:11.12 | myren | its the first dist-upgrade in like 5 months |
| 08:11.16 | kaleid | I never liked red bad |
| 08:11.27 | kaleid | don't know why |
| 08:11.33 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: what wireless card you using on the new pbook right now? |
| 08:11.42 | hcy | dondelelcaro: yeah, did anyone find a solution for it? |
| 08:11.44 | dondelelcaro | myren: xorg 6.9 recently went in to unstable, so downgrade it if you have problems, then file a bug explaining exactly what is going on. |
| 08:11.51 | dondelelcaro | hcy: uh... did you read the bug log? |
| 08:11.54 | dvm1981_lpt | kaleid, idem; the first time i liked it, but when i have found the rest, now its red bad for my |
| 08:11.55 | hcy | dondelelcaro: or even a temporary workaround, i really need to get some stuff done |
| 08:12.04 | myren | um, my screen flips out and blue pages cascade across the screen? |
| 08:12.05 | JordiGH | jm_: It ain't muted. :-/ |
| 08:12.08 | myren | i'd need to shoot a video |
| 08:12.19 | myren | hell i probably should, it'd make a cool effect in a movie |
| 08:12.24 | dvm1981_lpt | !red hat |
| 08:12.24 | dpkg | red hat is, like, apt-get --purge remove redhat mandrake; apt-get install sarge |
| 08:12.40 | kaleid | yeah red hat |
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| 08:12.43 | JordiGH | myren: Sounds like bad refresh rates. Go fiddle with /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 08:12.48 | kaleid | "sombrero rojo" |
| 08:13.02 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: this one has the airport extreem, bcm43xx or whatever it is; the one that I have really working is the orinoco one |
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| 08:13.21 | kaleid | I called ut "red bad" thinking was a joke of your "property" :p |
| 08:13.26 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: right. but for now. what card if any, you use on the new pbook. |
| 08:13.30 | kaleid | yeah! |
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| 08:13.35 | kaleid | dpkg! |
| 08:13.35 | myren | i cant imagine why it would've touched my xorg |
| 08:13.39 | Jmax | ii libaa1 1.4p5-30 ascii art library |
| 08:13.39 | myren | my xorg is highly custom |
| 08:13.40 | Jmax | The following packages have unmet dependencies. |
| 08:13.40 | Jmax | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:13.46 | Jmax | any thoughts why that would happen? |
| 08:13.47 | kaleid | rpm, it's so dirty |
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| 08:13.56 | dvm1981_lpt | !rpm |
| 08:13.56 | dpkg | [rpm] revolutions per minute, or Red Hat package manager;; "rpm2cpio foo.rpm | cpio -ivdum" to extract the beasties, or a programming language according to LinuxOne, or convert them to .deb's with 'alien'. Relaxing Porn Movie, or random package mangling, or an inferior package type when compared to deb. Rubbish Package Management. Retards pathetic Moaning, or roothats pathalogical muckfuck, or rat-poison method, or robot power management |
| 08:14.03 | myren | same ole xorg.conf |
| 08:14.10 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: none |
| 08:14.13 | myren | soorry, meant to be saying xorg.conf |
| 08:14.15 | deadcat | doh |
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| 08:15.11 | JordiGH | myren, did you have xfree86 before? |
| 08:16.05 | dvm1981_lpt | i have an erno |
| 08:16.08 | dvm1981_lpt | !error |
| 08:16.08 | dpkg | The error is on line 89373 |
| 08:16.12 | myren | no, its been xorg for a long time |
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| 08:17.41 | ma3x | hi |
| 08:17.44 | ma3x | anyone here? |
| 08:17.44 | ma3x | :) |
| 08:17.52 | dvm1981_lpt | yes |
| 08:17.55 | ma3x | my usb mouse is not working anymore |
| 08:17.56 | deadcat | ma3x: no |
| 08:18.01 | ma3x | dvm1981_lpt help, i'll ya? |
| 08:18.06 | ma3x | deadcat hi dude |
| 08:18.19 | hcy | dondelelcaro: i'm reading the buglog, it's long... but so far, the files they suggest i 'mv' don't exist on my comp |
| 08:18.33 | ma3x | dvm1981_lpt the mouse is not detectable not even in the console |
| 08:18.45 | JordiGH | myren: dunno then. :( |
| 08:19.04 | jm_ | JordiGH: play a sound file with alsaplayer, if it doesn't report an error but you get no output, then the issue is either muting or misconfiguration of the card |
| 08:19.20 | dvm1981_lpt | !hotplug |
| 08:19.20 | dpkg | [hotplug] a auto detect that are pluged into a running system (USB / IDE) http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/ , or see discover |
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| 08:19.37 | ma3x | dvm1981_lpt I already installed it back |
| 08:19.43 | myren | JordiGH: looks like you're right actually. xorg is now trying to run @ 50.4 hz refresh rate... ::scratch ehad:: |
| 08:19.45 | dbglt | hi all! |
| 08:19.52 | dbglt | any idea how I can see a list of all security-updates for my install software in apt? |
| 08:20.05 | dbglt | and also, just wondering if anyone here uses or has used kynaptic package management |
| 08:20.09 | jm_ | dbglt: installed or available or what? |
| 08:20.11 | myren | oh wait thats the pixel clock. no, 60hz screen refresh |
| 08:20.11 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, what have you installed before ? |
| 08:20.16 | ma3x | hey deadcat, I get bad superblock, and I'm unable to fsck my both hard drives. You know why is this showing up? |
| 08:20.36 | ma3x | dvm1981_lpt I played around with hotplug and udev, and now I rm'd udev, installed hotplug |
| 08:20.37 | deadcat | ma3x: nope. |
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| 08:20.51 | dbglt | jm_: security updates for my installed software only |
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| 08:21.07 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, purge ? |
| 08:21.07 | jm_ | dbglt: do you mean available updates? |
| 08:21.29 | ma3x | dvm1981_lpt that's what I did |
| 08:21.45 | dbglt | jm_: I'm not sure. I just want to see the security updates for any packages I have installed. Not sure what it is called |
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| 08:22.01 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, Have you look at the log files ? |
| 08:22.10 | jm_ | dbglt: I don't understand what you want |
| 08:22.25 | dbglt | jm_: I want to see if there are any upgrades needed for security |
| 08:22.33 | ma3x | dvm1981_lpt what for? |
| 08:22.35 | dbglt | jm_: for the packages I have installed on my computer |
| 08:22.39 | jm_ | dbglt: apt-get -s upgrade |
| 08:22.42 | JordiGH | myren: Maybe you answered "yes" to one of those questions about messing around with your config files? |
| 08:22.46 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, hints |
| 08:22.55 | dbglt | jm_: :) thanks |
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| 08:23.12 | hcy | dondelelcaro: any idea what package fmtutil-sys is in? maybe if i reinstall that package it'll help |
| 08:23.19 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, understand ? |
| 08:23.23 | dbglt | jm_: some of them are not security updates only |
| 08:23.39 | JordiGH | ma3x: dpkg-reconfigure hotplug. Then try adding anything that says storage or *hi. |
| 08:23.48 | dbglt | jm_: I only want to upgrade packages which need it for security |
| 08:23.50 | JordiGH | ma3x: I had a similar problem when dist-upgrading. |
| 08:24.19 | JordiGH | uhci or something like that is important. |
| 08:24.23 | JordiGH | usbmouse might also be relevant. |
| 08:24.29 | dvm1981_lpt | JordiGH, that's good to know ;-) |
| 08:24.38 | ma3x | JordiGH thanks a lot |
| 08:24.45 | jm_ | dbglt: version reveales that |
| 08:24.55 | JordiGH | ma3x: Don't thank met yet. Tell me if it works. :P |
| 08:25.46 | dbglt | jm_: I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Sorry, I'm new to apt package management |
| 08:26.04 | dvm1981_lpt | ma3x, yes, let it know of that help you |
| 08:26.25 | Jmax | uh wtf |
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| 08:26.36 | Jmax | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:26.49 | dondelelcaro | hcy: it's in tetex-bin |
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| 08:27.08 | dondelelcaro | hcy: what is the contents of your /etc/texmf/fmt.d/ directory? |
| 08:27.24 | dondelelcaro | hcy: does fmtutil-sys even work when run from the command line |
| 08:28.22 | JordiGH | jm_: Alsaplayer reports no errors. Doesn't look like muting. How can I configure my sound card? |
| 08:28.31 | hcy | dondelelcaro: to answer your questions in reverse order, fmtutil-sys, when run from command line, complains about missing that fmtutil.cnf file. |
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| 08:29.08 | hcy | dondelelcaro: fmt.d contains: 00tex.cnf 01tetex.cnf 50cyrtexinfo.cnf |
| 08:29.32 | hcy | dondelelcaro: and since i've tried purging and reinstalling tetex-bin and that's the one giving me the trouble, i have no idea what to try now |
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| 08:30.41 | jm_ | JordiGH: I bet it's either muting or mixer levels |
| 08:30.55 | JordiGH | :( |
| 08:31.23 | JordiGH | Kmix says there's no muting going on. But if you want me to open a Gnome session and use its tools instead, I'll do it. |
| 08:31.58 | dondelelcaro | hcy: and youre running fmtutil-sys --all; as root, right? |
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| 08:32.22 | hcy | dondelelcaro: # fmtutil-sys --all |
| 08:32.23 | hcy | fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found. |
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| 08:32.34 | dondelelcaro | hcy: what does fmtutil-sys --version return? |
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| 08:33.40 | ma3x | JordiGH, thanks a lot dude! that helpmed me a lot. |
| 08:34.11 | ma3x | JordiGH, I also experience one more problem, since I did dist-upgrade |
| 08:34.12 | hcy | dondelelcaro: fmtutil version 1105809354. |
| 08:34.13 | ma3x | http://pastebin.com/525308 |
| 08:34.32 | ma3x | JordiGH, it happens on the partition of my 1st hard drive |
| 08:34.38 | ma3x | and also on my second hard drive partition |
| 08:34.47 | ma3x | so its impossible to say something's wrong with both hdds |
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| 08:34.55 | ma3x | so I guess something is wrong with the filesystem |
| 08:35.01 | ma3x | you've any idea how to solve it? |
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| 08:35.08 | Ep|phany | im running a p2 with damn small linux of harddrive. how can i tell what sound cards i have and how can i get these sound cards to workk? |
| 08:35.09 | ma3x | here: http://pastebin.com/525308 |
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| 08:35.38 | jishin | how can i load module automatically without running modprobe manually |
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| 08:35.43 | AoA | somebody maybe can tell me what is the name of xmms polugin for printing current playing song to x-chat ? |
| 08:36.08 | dondelelcaro | hcy: ok, run update-fmtutil, then run fmtutil-sys; make sure that /var/lib/texmf/web2c exists. |
| 08:36.38 | sett | AoA sure |
| 08:36.43 | sett | plenty xchat.org |
| 08:36.43 | deadcat | hmm. i cant seem to make the stupid firefox agent to something else. it keeps setting back to default. i got it working before. but i dont know what i did |
| 08:36.50 | sett | look for the scripts section |
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| 08:37.13 | AoA | sett : I was looking, but didnt find/// |
| 08:37.26 | sett | oh wait a sec |
| 08:37.29 | hcy | dondelelcaro: i ran update-fmtutil, then fmtutil-sys --all and it still complained about missing the .cnf file. /var/lib/texmf/web2c/ existsts |
| 08:37.44 | gpm | hey everyone. i'm on gnome in sid (2.12) and gnome-volume-manager mounts my ipod just great with usb, however, with firewire, it only detects it and doesn't mount it for some reason. i can pmount it or mount it normally, but g-v-m/hald/dbus/pmount/whatever isn't automounting with firewire. i can just use usb for the time being, but does anyone know why this would be? |
| 08:37.55 | streuner | !superblock |
| 08:37.55 | dpkg | The Superblock contains a description of the basic size and shape of the file system. See http://www.science.unitn.it/~fiorella/guidelinux/tlk/node97.html for more info. If yours went missing, use e2sl (http://www.schumann.cx/e2sl/) |
| 08:38.01 | sett | http://scripts.xchat.org/cgi-bin/script_list/ |
| 08:38.07 | sett | the first one here is xmms :) |
| 08:38.16 | sett | and u can search by xmms keyword as well |
| 08:38.24 | sett | to find millions of others |
| 08:38.29 | ma3x | hallo streuner |
| 08:38.37 | streuner | ma3x: hi |
| 08:38.48 | streuner | ma3x: read what dpkg told you |
| 08:38.51 | AoA | thanks sett |
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| 08:39.00 | ma3x | streuner, will do. anyway, have you had the same problem and fixed it? |
| 08:39.08 | jm_ | jordi;use alsamixer |
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| 08:39.12 | jm_ | blah |
| 08:39.16 | jm_ | JordiGH: use alsamixer |
| 08:39.28 | streuner | ma3x: uhm, yes, in such cases i just formated the HD... |
| 08:39.41 | ma3x | streuner, oh dear i'm disappointed now |
| 08:40.04 | streuner | !factinfo superblock |
| 08:40.04 | dpkg | superblock -- created by cafuego <cafuego@2001:db0:1073:0:0:0:0:1> at Tue Dec 30 02:33:59 2003 (759 days); it has been requested 16 times, last by ams_ at Wed Nov 23 08:43:57 2005. |
| 08:40.06 | jobob | can anyone recommend a debian based distro for my p3-650Mhz laptop w/256Mb?? preferrably something lightweight and fast |
| 08:40.16 | dondelelcaro | hcy: what are the contents of /var/lib/texmfs/web2c? use the paster bot to paste the tmpfile resulting from strace -f -o tmpfile fmtutil-sys --all |
| 08:40.29 | dondelelcaro | jobob: we recommend Debian itself. |
| 08:40.34 | dvm1981_lpt | jobob, debian |
| 08:40.44 | dvm1981_lpt | !debian |
| 08:40.44 | dpkg | i guess debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 08:40.48 | streuner | ma3x: just try XFS in future |
| 08:41.06 | JordiGH | w00t! |
| 08:41.13 | hcy | dondelelcaro: paster bot? |
| 08:41.22 | dvm1981_lpt | jobob, you are here on the #debian, it sure i not suggest you to use 'Red Bad' |
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| 08:41.35 | jobob | bah debian out of the box is quite bloated like most other distro's I'm using DSL right now, it's very nice |
| 08:41.35 | JordiGH | jm_: It WOOOOOOOOORKED! |
| 08:41.38 | ma3x | streuner, whats that? bytheway e2sl does not compile on my system |
| 08:41.44 | hcy | dondelelcaro: ok |
| 08:41.44 | dvm1981_lpt | !red hat |
| 08:41.44 | dpkg | from memory, red hat is apt-get --purge remove redhat mandrake; apt-get install sarge |
| 08:42.01 | jm_ | JordiGH: so it was muting? |
| 08:42.09 | jobob | I asked for a debian based distro, I know debian rox, but the standard install seems unrefined and feature bloated |
| 08:42.10 | JordiGH | jm_: Yeah. It was. How very odd. |
| 08:42.16 | jm_ | JordiGH: :P |
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| 08:42.58 | streuner | ma3x: what error? |
| 08:43.01 | JordiGH | jm_: Probably the issue is that Debian likes Gnome better than KDE, that Gnome mutes sound by default, and that KDE's apps don't know how to undo the stuff that Gnome's apps do. |
| 08:43.02 | jobob | dsl is debian based but is fast and streamlined, the only thing I don't like about dsl is the difficulty of staying updated, otherwise I'd just stick with DSL |
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| 08:43.29 | jm_ | JordiGH: no, ALSA mutes it, not GNOME |
| 08:43.29 | JordiGH | End result: the flame wars have silenced my sound card. |
| 08:43.33 | dvm1981_lpt | jobob, fine tune the install man; tasksel |
| 08:43.35 | ma3x | streuner, millions of errors |
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| 08:44.12 | dvm1981_lpt | jobob, i not choice a desktop environment with tasksel; install the bare minimal, then what you needs |
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| 08:44.31 | dvm1981_lpt | !error |
| 08:44.31 | dpkg | The error is on line 89373 |
| 08:44.48 | dr1v3r | ok guys, if i am replacing the curent rc.firewall with a new one, do i need to run iptables -f or iptables -x or anything like that? |
| 08:44.52 | dvm1981_lpt | could someone check it ? |
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| 08:45.02 | JordiGH | Thanks a million, jm_. |
| 08:45.04 | JordiGH | Muting... |
| 08:45.06 | JordiGH | pfft.. |
| 08:45.09 | JordiGH | I feel like such an idiot. :) |
| 08:45.13 | dr1v3r | or do i just replace it? |
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| 08:45.36 | dvm1981_lpt | JordiGH, no man; you learn some new things, it's not the same |
| 08:45.52 | ma3x | streuner, can you guide me? |
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| 08:46.27 | hcy | dondelelcaro: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1654 |
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| 08:47.22 | Jmax | why does my debian box think that i don't have aalib >= 1.2 while it thinks i do have libaa1 1.4p5-30 |
| 08:47.24 | Jmax | ? |
| 08:47.41 | dvm1981_lpt | !mandriva |
| 08:47.41 | dpkg | it has been said that mandriva is the new name (2005.04) of the merged Mandrake Linux and Conectiva Linux companies. or a stupid name |
| 08:47.54 | dvm1981_lpt | i like the end of this |
| 08:48.20 | jm_ | Jmax: your debian box is looking for aalib >= 1.2? I doubt it |
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| 08:48.28 | Jmax | jm_, it is |
| 08:48.36 | Jmax | The following packages have unmet dependencies. |
| 08:48.36 | Jmax | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:48.36 | Jmax | E: Broken packages |
| 08:48.52 | jm_ | Jmax: which package is this? |
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| 08:49.56 | streuner | dpkg, no superblock is <reply> The Superblock contains a description of the basic size and shape of the file system. See http://www.science.unitn.it/~fiorella/guidelinux/tlk/node97.html for more info. |
| 08:49.56 | dpkg | okay, streuner |
| 08:50.05 | Jmax | jm_, lives |
| 08:50.16 | dvm1981_lpt | greenhouse |
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| 08:50.24 | dvm1981_lpt | !greenhouse |
| 08:50.24 | dpkg | Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Debian! |
| 08:50.27 | streuner | ma3x: well, the app is from 2000 and not maintained anymore... |
| 08:50.49 | jm_ | Jmax: I can't find such package in Debian |
| 08:50.50 | deadcat | all the bridging howto involves with eth0 connect to a router with internet and bridge via the wireless wlan0, i want the opposite. and i cant figure out how. anyone? |
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| 08:51.26 | hcy | dondelelcaro: that at all helpful? |
| 08:51.51 | Jmax | jm_ i'll assume that it's then my 3rd party apt source ;( |
| 08:52.22 | ma3x | streuner, fuck the app. I solved the problem with 'mke2fs /dev/hda1' |
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| 08:52.41 | deadcat | jm_: any experience with wireless bridging? |
| 08:52.45 | geoff_ | is there a way around teh circular depends between linux-image-2.6.15 and udev? |
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| 08:52.54 | geoff_ | depends=dependency |
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| 08:53.25 | SlayerXP | what is this obsession with using udev these days? it's a piece of shit. |
| 08:53.28 | ma3x | streuner, let's say we have 10 superblocks backups, and all of them are destroyed. Then we format the partition, and will they be available again? |
| 08:53.31 | ma3x | i.e. fresh? |
| 08:54.05 | jm_ | Jmax: anyway, aalib 1.4p5-30 is >= 1.2 |
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| 08:54.23 | geoff_ | SlayerXP: i don't know, but linux-image-2.6.15 requires it. |
| 08:54.24 | jm_ | SlayerXP: Debian kernels require it ;) |
| 08:54.38 | Jmax | jm_, it is indeed |
| 08:54.44 | geoff_ | and since udev requires an image >= 2.6.12 |
| 08:54.52 | jm_ | deadcat: not really, the only wireless kit I am using is for my connection to ISP |
| 08:54.52 | geoff_ | you get a circular dependency and you can't install either |
| 08:55.05 | geoff_ | can i force it or something or would that be a bad idea? |
| 08:55.08 | SlayerXP | !be a /dev barbie |
| 08:55.09 | dpkg | Aww, /dev is HARD! Let's go shopping, slayerxp |
| 08:55.24 | deadcat | jm_: doh. i've been trying for a while and not able to. currently i have to use 2 subnet.. )= |
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| 08:56.12 | sanmarcos | !hug me |
| 08:56.17 | jm_ | geoff_: dpkg -i pkg1 pkg2 should work |
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| 08:56.41 | sanmarcos | ah udev really messes things up, the nvidia driver for example |
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| 08:57.09 | geoff_ | nvidia's binary driver or the xorg one? |
| 08:57.26 | Rekelon | hey i have two questions about debian if someone can help out. |
| 08:57.35 | dondelelcaro | hcy: hrm... that's strange; can you do mktexlsr, and then see what /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr --cmd find --file fmtutil.cnf; returns? |
| 08:57.35 | sanmarcos | binary |
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| 08:57.49 | geoff_ | hrm |
| 08:57.53 | geoff_ | maybe i'll stick with 2.6.8 the' |
| 08:57.54 | geoff_ | n |
| 08:58.01 | dvm1981_lpt | Rekelon, ask |
| 08:58.11 | sanmarcos | I dont even know what udev is.. you know with debian's horrible unpolished and ugly init sequence.. it drives people with perfection needs nuts |
| 08:58.42 | hcy | dondelelcaro: sure |
| 08:58.45 | sanmarcos | geoff_: xorg + nvidia + udev after .6.8 see http://tinyurl.com/78nyz |
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| 08:58.58 | buu | Ok, quick problem, how do I mount a vfat drive dealy so that any user can read and write to it? |
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| 08:59.11 | dvm1981_lpt | buu, fstab |
| 08:59.11 | Rekelon | basically i have a wireless card and the drivers under xp, however the card isnt really a well known brand and was wondering if there might be a problem getting it towork under debian. |
| 08:59.18 | buu | dvm1981_lpt: Mind elaborating? |
| 08:59.27 | dvm1981_lpt | !fstab |
| 08:59.27 | dpkg | methinks fstab is a file that lets the `mount' command know what mountable things (partitions, drives, etc) are in your system. Try `man 5 fstab` for more information on it. |
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| 08:59.32 | geoff_ | can i just build my own kerenel and avoid using udev that way? |
| 08:59.37 | franz | hi all! |
| 08:59.43 | dondelelcaro | !tell buu -about vfatrw |
| 08:59.45 | stoned | what is udev? |
| 08:59.55 | hcy | dondelelcaro: i ran mktexlsr, but the tcfmgr thing returns nothing |
| 08:59.56 | sanmarcos | nodoby knows really |
| 08:59.58 | jm_ | geoff_: of course |
| 08:59.59 | dvm1981_lpt | vfatrw |
| 08:59.59 | sanmarcos | !udev |
| 08:59.59 | dpkg | [udev] at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
| 09:00.02 | hcy | just a new prompt |
| 09:00.15 | dondelelcaro | hcy: ok, that's the problem... it's supposed to return /var/lib/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf |
| 09:00.17 | buu | Ah, thanks alot. |
| 09:00.27 | dvm1981_lpt | typed in the wrong channel |
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| 09:00.40 | stoned | you know hooray! i upgraded from 866mhz/256mbram to 2.4ghz/asus mobo/p4 2.4ghz/512ddr in 170$ us |
| 09:00.42 | dvm1981_lpt | i asked to dpkg, you are good dpkg |
| 09:00.59 | sanmarcos | stoned: nobody cares |
| 09:01.04 | franz | I've installed postfix.. and I permit relay to my network 10.0.0.0/24, my client use webmail... but I want to permit to someone to relay only locally... what can I do? |
| 09:01.07 | hcy | dondelelcaro: ok what should i do? |
| 09:01.08 | kaleid | I have a "drama" with grub |
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| 09:01.17 | sanmarcos | franz: #postfix |
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| 09:01.25 | SlayerXP | stoned: which idiot talked you in to buying intel? |
| 09:01.28 | franz | thanks |
| 09:01.34 | kaleid | cannot startit without wait a minute |
| 09:01.40 | franz | join #postfix |
| 09:01.41 | kaleid | stage loading 1.5 |
| 09:01.51 | SlayerXP | stoned: fyi, on eprocessor from my 18 month year old workstation will outperform yours. |
| 09:01.55 | stoned | SlayerXP: let me guess, on some intel hate bandwagon? |
| 09:02.11 | stoned | well i'm happy for you man |
| 09:02.16 | SlayerXP | stoned: hardly. i just don't get why people buy more expensive, less powerful hardware. |
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| 09:03.01 | stoned | SlayerXP: here are a copule of reasons. lack of konwledge on what is available. not much interest in too much computer nerdery. some others if I really tried to think of them |
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| 09:03.54 | dondelelcaro | hcy: probably something like /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr --cmd ci --file /var/lib/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf |
| 09:04.17 | dondelelcaro | hcy: unfortunatly, I have no clue why that wasn't already done that way automagically. |
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| 09:04.55 | kansei | bump |
| 09:05.09 | Teltariat | IRC != forum :D |
| 09:05.23 | hcy | dondelelcaro: tcfmgr: Oops! file `/tmp//relDir' does not exist. |
| 09:05.31 | kansei | how observant of you Teltariat |
| 09:05.35 | stoned | btw, I only bought the asus mobo and nvidia 128mb dual head card for 50$ plus tax. thsu bringing me to 170 like I said. I used to work at a computer repair shop, i've got processors and some other stuff laying around. thats how i built a system with 170$. |
| 09:05.43 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that's totall useless... |
| 09:05.49 | sanmarcos | nobody cares |
| 09:05.50 | stoned | SlayerXP: I almost went and bought a sun workstation for 30$/month |
| 09:06.09 | SlayerXP | stoned: you really _are_ misinformed about modern hardware. |
| 09:06.41 | dondelelcaro | hcy: what does grep fmtutil.cnf /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr.map; return? |
| 09:06.48 | stoned | SlayerXP: huh |
| 09:06.54 | stoned | i think thats true man |
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| 09:07.13 | stoned | like I said im not much into this |
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| 09:07.25 | hcy | dondelelcaro: fmtutil.cnf web2c web2c files |
| 09:07.42 | dondelelcaro | hcy: and what does grep TEXMFSYSVAR /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf; return? |
| 09:08.04 | dondelelcaro | hcy: (I only care about the TEXMFSYSVAR= line) |
| 09:08.26 | murr | i'd like to backup one user's home direcory on a fat32 partition, i wonder what would be the best way? so that nothing would be broken and everything would be copied. |
| 09:08.30 | hcy | dondelelcaro: TEXMFSYSVAR = /var/lib/texmf |
| 09:08.44 | stoned | SlayerXP: I may or maynot be able to return/exchange now that i've already used the hardware. what would you recommend I do with 170$ for more power than mentioned 866mhz/5yr old pc? |
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| 09:08.59 | sanmarcos | murr: dd |
| 09:09.12 | jm_ | murr: tar it |
| 09:09.18 | SlayerXP | stoned: you didn't mention you were on a fixed budget. |
| 09:09.36 | sanmarcos | murr: or tar it, like: tar -cf HomeUser.tar /home/user/ && bzip2 HomeUser.tar |
| 09:09.36 | stoned | I did, you didn't read the beginning I think |
| 09:09.46 | sanmarcos | bzip usually has the best compression out there |
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| 09:09.53 | stoned | SlayerXP: I also mentioned how I spent that money too |
| 09:10.08 | jm_ | stoned: either way, AMD64 CPU-s are cheaper |
| 09:10.15 | murr | sanmarcos: and that command won't destroy the original home directory, right? |
| 09:10.25 | stoned | don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want to spend more on less power |
| 09:10.54 | jm_ | you probably meant less on more power |
| 09:10.54 | sanmarcos | murr: no |
| 09:11.08 | stoned | i just had a proc laying around and i bought a motherboard and scavanged my old machine, now I have most old hardware, but a much powerful system |
| 09:11.17 | murr | ok. thank you sanmarcos and jm_ |
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| 09:12.41 | dondelelcaro | hcy: and what does kpsewhich -format='web2c files' -progname='web2c' fmtutil.cnf; return? |
| 09:12.57 | seeeS | that looks like latex magic |
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| 09:13.49 | dondelelcaro | seeeS: yeah, hcy is having some strange problem with fmtutil.cnf not being shown in the right path as /var/lib/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf |
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| 09:14.08 | jishin | i've tried to put my modules name into /etc/modules to make it load my modules at boot, but it doesn't work |
| 09:14.13 | hcy | dondelelcaro: /var/lib/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf |
| 09:14.15 | dondelelcaro | seeeS: so fmtutil-sys dies, and consequently tetex-bin won't complete teh postinst |
| 09:14.23 | stoned | here is a strange problem I experience, please guide me in the right direction about this. everytime I enable dhcp on my powerbook 3400c running debian sarge(testing at the time. can't/unable to upgrde) it causes a kernel panic. I can reboot, get into maintanance mode and modify interfaces and static it, I reboot and it works fine. I can't figure it out. I did a netinsall on it btw, so I know that the hardware is fine and works with debi |
| 09:14.51 | jm_ | if kernel panics on that, you should look for a newer version |
| 09:14.54 | sanmarcos | probably a driver bug |
| 09:15.08 | dondelelcaro | hcy: uh... and /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr --cmd find --file fmtutil.cnf; doesn't return that? |
| 09:15.38 | hcy | dondelelcaro: nope |
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| 09:16.14 | dondelelcaro | that's really freaking wierd. |
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| 09:16.52 | dondelelcaro | hcy: what does kpsewhich -progname=texconfig -format='other text files' tcfmgr.map; return? |
| 09:16.58 | stoned | the problem is now I can't boot from a cd, since openfirmware only supports booting from mac os cds (as far as I know). I can not bring this machine online, i've tried quite hard. I can't boot from a cd unless I order the mac os cds. Is there a way where I can put sarge/stable on it now? |
| 09:17.17 | noiesmo | hey off topic in debian is there a way to get pics out of a swf file |
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| 09:17.52 | dondelelcaro | noiesmo: use one of the swf libraries to rip them out. You'll probably have to write your own code to do that. |
| 09:17.57 | hcy | dondelelcaro: /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr.map |
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| 09:18.31 | stoned | even with static ip and connected to the router, it is unable to reach host, no route to host, etc. probably driver bug, it is sarge/testing before it froze. |
| 09:19.06 | dondelelcaro | hcy: and tcfmgr --cmd showmap? |
| 09:19.14 | dondelelcaro | s/showmap/mapfile/ |
| 09:19.16 | fireba11 | stoned: how did you get sarge on it in the first place then ? |
| 09:19.17 | stoned | there is no floppy drive, and I can't figure out how to run debian installer on it. any ideas would be appreciated |
| 09:19.33 | fireba11 | stoned: tried booting from usb ? |
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| 09:20.11 | hcy | dondelelcaro: bash: tcfmgr: command not found |
| 09:20.12 | stoned | fireba11: I did a netinstall kernel/initrd but there was this mac software that allowed me to boot that somehow, I can't remember the name of it now, you had to install the ocntrol panel system aplet |
| 09:20.29 | stoned | fireba11: it doesn't have a usb, its a powerbook 3400c from 1997, very old |
| 09:20.38 | fireba11 | ouch |
| 09:20.44 | Guerin | wtf |
| 09:20.47 | dondelelcaro | hcy: sorr, /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr --cmd mapfile |
| 09:20.51 | Guerin | 1997, and doesn't have usb? |
| 09:20.59 | stoned | nope |
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| 09:21.02 | fireba11 | mroe like 1987 |
| 09:21.08 | noiesmo | dondelelcaro, cheers found swftool on net |
| 09:21.11 | Guerin | damn, apple sucks more and more |
| 09:21.31 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: eh? the iMac was one of the first machines to have USB |
| 09:21.45 | stoned | I could probably get the os 8 cds on ebay for 20 bucks and then use that mac software again to boot the sarge/stable netinsall |
| 09:21.53 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: but it apparently still wasn't worth putting in a powerbook in 1997 |
| 09:22.15 | fireba11 | Guerin: i really doub that |
| 09:22.40 | hcy | dondelelcaro: /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr.map |
| 09:22.48 | stoned | oh wait, I just thought of a solution and it so simple its crazy. I could burn the netinstall linux/initrd.gz on a cd, copy it too /boot and modify menu.lst and heh, run ithe installer |
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| 09:23.37 | dvm1981 | !shit |
| 09:23.38 | dpkg | somebody said shit was fecal matter.. scratch your ass, sniff your finger. Smell that? Shit. |
| 09:23.50 | Teltariat | lol. |
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| 09:23.56 | Teltariat | words of wisdom |
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| 09:24.17 | dvm1981 | or |
| 09:24.23 | dvm1981 | !viagra |
| 09:24.24 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, viagra is the nickname for the Woody Tech Support Crew, or http://dockitty17.blog.com/211555/ |
| 09:24.36 | dondelelcaro | if you need to abuse the bot, do so in /msg please |
| 09:24.53 | stoned | is there a program that enables mouse in console and also copy/paste, highlight text etc. click possible links in lynx/elinks/links2 etc. |
| 09:25.17 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: i have do it already, im ask him before ;-) |
| 09:25.21 | Teltariat | stoned: gpm? |
| 09:25.32 | stoned | !gpm |
| 09:25.32 | dpkg | methinks gpm is if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
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| 09:26.33 | bizkit | is there a quick tool to compare some long strings from stdin or via arguments? like diff works for files? |
| 09:27.10 | Guerin | bizkit: diff works on anything, not just files |
| 09:27.13 | sanmarcos | yeah |
| 09:27.42 | dondelelcaro | hcy: could you grep fmtutil.cnf /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr.map; again? |
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| 09:27.49 | sanmarcos | bizkit: #bash |
| 09:27.52 | hard-fi | hi |
| 09:27.55 | konfuzed | bizkit now takes a leap forward in creative utilization |
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| 09:28.12 | stoned | is there a way to return to sarge after using unstable without reinstall the whole os |
| 09:28.23 | dondelelcaro | stoned: no |
| 09:28.32 | ma3x | this is stupid: when I reboot and kde starts my usb mouse doesn't work. I always have to unplug/plug it one time |
| 09:28.32 | stoned | oh , no wonder it didn't work |
| 09:28.35 | ma3x | why is that? |
| 09:28.37 | hard-fi | how do i use debian-arm? |
| 09:28.38 | dondelelcaro | well, not easily... if you have to ask how to do it, you shouldn't even consider it. |
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| 09:29.01 | sanmarcos | ma3x: probably some crap due to ACPI/APM |
| 09:29.05 | konfuzed | dondelelcaro: not rue |
| 09:29.05 | dvm1981 | !reinstall |
| 09:29.06 | dpkg | well, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
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| 09:29.08 | konfuzed | dondelelcaro: not true |
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| 09:29.17 | stoned | dondelelcaro: then how exactly does one furthur his knowledge? |
| 09:29.23 | ma3x | sanmarcos, I've specified pci=route to the kernel line. Is it possible becase of that? |
| 09:29.25 | buu | Ok, another simplish question. I've got straight svideo out for X currently, so when I boot X it goes straight to tv. I'd also like to go to my connected monitor for a different X |
| 09:29.25 | konfuzed | the note even CONsider it part that is |
| 09:29.29 | buu | Hrm, wait a sec |
| 09:29.48 | sanmarcos | ma3x: dont know, check dmesg, /var/log/messages and syslog |
| 09:29.50 | dondelelcaro | konfuzed: eh? |
| 09:29.58 | hard-fi | im just new to it, its cool, ill find out elsewhere |
| 09:30.01 | hcy | dondelelcaro: fmtutil.cnf web2c web2c files - |
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| 09:30.13 | dondelelcaro | hcy: right... that should be fine. |
| 09:30.20 | Deffie | hi all, how can i restore debian perl installation ? i'm having big troubles with cpan modules...i need a fresh install |
| 09:30.27 | konfuzed | the not even consider it part that is, of the is you have to ask dont do |
| 09:30.43 | fireba11 | Deffie: what now .. restore or fresh install ? |
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| 09:30.45 | stoned | [03:28 am] <dondelelcaro> well, not easily... if you have to ask how to do it, you shouldn't even consider it. <-- this is debian support, yes? |
| 09:30.46 | Jmax | Deffie, purge, although if you installed any modules via cpan you may have issues |
| 09:30.58 | dvm1981 | Deffie: apt-get remove --purge <package> |
| 09:30.58 | Jmax | Deffie, there is probably a better answer, what is your problem? :) |
| 09:31.03 | ma3x | come on somebody please help with the mouse |
| 09:31.13 | dondelelcaro | hcy: ok, only thing I can think of is to add a set -x; to the top of the tcfmgr script, and see exactly what the output from it is. |
| 09:31.15 | sanmarcos | roflmao |
| 09:31.28 | dondelelcaro | hcy: sounds like some sort of wierd bug that you're managing to trigger that I can cause here. |
| 09:31.32 | sanmarcos | ma3x: welcome to linux |
| 09:32.00 | ma3x | sanmacro shutup |
| 09:32.02 | hcy | dondelelcaro: which tcfmgr script would that be? i'll scroll up... |
| 09:32.06 | dondelelcaro | stoned: it's primarily because it's complicated, and the complications involved with doing that sort of revision change daily, and it's totally different depnding on what you've got installed. |
| 09:32.22 | dondelelcaro | hcy: the /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr one (or whatever it's called) |
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| 09:32.35 | Rekelon | is running ntfs under debian dangerous to the partition? |
| 09:32.42 | hard-fi | anyone know a goog dos emulator for window mobile? |
| 09:32.50 | dvm1981 | !ntfs |
| 09:32.50 | dpkg | i guess ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
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| 09:32.54 | dondelelcaro | Rekelon: the unsafe operations aren't allowed by the driver, so it should be ok. |
| 09:32.59 | Rekelon | !htfs |
| 09:33.05 | hcy | dondelelcaro: /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr --cmd mapfile ? |
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| 09:33.21 | sanmarcos | ntfs is horrible |
| 09:33.31 | sanmarcos | but better than fat |
| 09:33.36 | stoned | dondelelcaro: I understand what you saying now, but that what you said before was very vauge, in the context of going from sid to sarge |
| 09:33.37 | hcy | so set -x; /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr --cmd mapfile |
| 09:33.41 | Rekelon | yeah but alot of my shares is under that partition |
| 09:33.45 | hcy | dondelelcaro: ^ |
| 09:33.56 | kaleid | well |
| 09:33.56 | dondelelcaro | hcy: yes, open it in an editor, and add a set -x to the top of it, and then give the entire output of /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr --cmd find --file fmtutil.cnf |
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| 09:34.03 | kaleid | hasta la vista! |
| 09:34.47 | dondelelcaro | !tell stoned -about downgrade |
| 09:34.55 | hcy | dondelelcaro: oh thanks :) i misunderstood |
| 09:34.57 | dondelelcaro | but please don't ask for us to support it |
| 09:35.07 | dondelelcaro | (because we don't) |
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| 09:35.21 | stoned | nah its alright man |
| 09:35.36 | stoned | its too much of a task, i'd rather just pop the cd in and insall sarge |
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| 09:35.59 | stoned | It would be quite handy however, but it not, then its cool |
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| 09:36.27 | dondelelcaro | it's hard enough to handle upgrades in one direction, reversions are quite difficult. |
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| 09:37.50 | hcy | dondelelcaro: please look in #paste... for some reason channels.debian.net/paste/ isn't opening for me, i think my internet connection might be overloaded at the moment |
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| 09:38.00 | dondelelcaro | hcy: try #flood |
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| 09:39.48 | hcy | dondelelcaro: yeah that's what i meant, #flood |
| 09:39.48 | hcy | dondelelcaro: it's there, please take a look |
| 09:40.50 | dondelelcaro | hcy: uh... that's pretty much broken... |
| 09:41.00 | hcy | dondelelcaro: heh |
| 09:41.07 | hcy | dondelelcaro: ok so what do i do? |
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| 09:42.00 | dondelelcaro | hcy: it looks like something very strange happened to your map file, because it should be returning 'fmtutil.cnf' web2c 'web2c files' -; not with an extra '' in there. |
| 09:42.09 | dondelelcaro | hcy: are you using something besides bash as /bin/sh? |
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| 09:42.34 | hcy | dondelelcaro: no, not that i know of |
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| 09:42.39 | phycho | hey guys |
| 09:42.39 | phycho | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/otherosfs/uml-utilities |
| 09:42.41 | dondelelcaro | hcy: what does ls -l /bin/sh; return? |
| 09:42.43 | phycho | where can i get this package |
| 09:42.47 | phycho | apt-get doesnt have it |
| 09:42.53 | phycho | and packages debian server is down (Grr) |
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| 09:43.18 | hcy | dondelelcaro: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Jun 24 2005 /bin/sh -> bash |
| 09:43.23 | dondelelcaro | phycho: from your local debian mirror: http://debian.usc.edu/pool/main/u/uml-utilities/ |
| 09:43.38 | phycho | k |
| 09:43.47 | phycho | ty :-) |
| 09:44.04 | konfuzed | phycho: what ya doin with that |
| 09:44.40 | phycho | building a UML system |
| 09:44.40 | konfuzed | what to do with UML system |
| 09:44.41 | phycho | (sooo difficult compaired with freebsd's jail) |
| 09:44.41 | phycho | its a virtual OS inside an os |
| 09:44.41 | phycho | im giving out free UML accounts |
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| 09:44.48 | phycho | to let people have root/learn how to play with the os. |
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| 09:44.57 | konfuzed | hhhhmmmmmm neato idea |
| 09:44.57 | phycho | without people screwing with my main system |
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| 09:45.07 | konfuzed | maybe at a school |
| 09:45.11 | erdal | slm |
| 09:45.13 | phycho | no, this is going to be public. |
| 09:45.17 | phycho | aka internet. |
| 09:45.17 | konfuzed | mmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 09:45.20 | hcy | dondelelcaro: you're right, that extra '' is very strange |
| 09:45.22 | konfuzed | inetelesting |
| 09:45.25 | phycho | its going to be locked down damned tight though |
| 09:45.29 | phycho | heh |
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| 09:45.53 | konfuzed | well its a good place to start |
| 09:46.13 | phycho | firewall all outgoing packets except port 80. |
| 09:46.13 | OsRo | hi! |
| 09:46.15 | konfuzed | then each user can have their own state of system flaws |
| 09:46.16 | phycho | and 22/21. |
| 09:46.21 | phycho | haha yeah |
| 09:46.27 | phycho | i dont care if people root it |
| 09:46.34 | phycho | coz there will be very limited internet. |
| 09:46.39 | OsRo | somebody have a problem with bug 306319? |
| 09:46.41 | phycho | so theres not much they could do with it anyway |
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| 09:46.43 | OsRo | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=306319 |
| 09:46.44 | dondelelcaro | hcy: anyway, I think you need to check that file out... I'm betting there's a space or something there. |
| 09:46.47 | konfuzed | i wonder how well the buffer-over runs are handled |
| 09:46.49 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 306319 |
| 09:46.53 | dpkg | #306319:N[kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp] kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp: e1000 driver does not work; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:33:02 UTC |
| 09:46.57 | phycho | konfuzed - no idea. |
| 09:47.13 | dondelelcaro | hcy: /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr.map |
| 09:47.34 | uhbg7ftyjkokm | anyone know where i can get a fix for the kerberos bug? |
| 09:47.35 | phycho | is going to be a pretty neat project though |
| 09:47.40 | konfuzed | phycho: it would be good to have a large wides scale test to try andpush this stuff to the boundaries |
| 09:47.51 | phycho | i just need to make sure the kernel i let people use doesnt have too much stuff they can do |
| 09:47.58 | hcy | dondelelcaro: there's a space in 'web2c files' |
| 09:48.02 | OsRo | this bug is size apr 2005, no solution today? |
| 09:48.04 | phycho | well, its going to be pretty much wide open to everyone on day one |
| 09:48.07 | dondelelcaro | hcy: but none in the rest of the file? |
| 09:48.09 | konfuzed | uhbg7ftyjkokm: migrate from kerberos to something else |
| 09:48.11 | phycho | no test is as good as live scenario ;) |
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| 09:48.30 | dondelelcaro | hcy: any NBS or anything? |
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| 09:48.51 | erdal | türçe bilen yok mu |
| 09:48.57 | tarzeau | erdal: #debian.tr |
| 09:49.01 | tarzeau | erdal: var abi, ne diyorsun |
| 09:49.09 | tarzeau | !NBS |
| 09:49.10 | erdal | selam |
| 09:49.11 | konfuzed | well i meant your live scenario is the perfect wide scale test |
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| 09:49.16 | dondelelcaro | tarzeau: non-breaking space |
| 09:49.18 | hcy | dondelelcaro: it has tabs |
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| 09:49.27 | dondelelcaro | hcy: grep fmtut /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr.map |hexdump -C ? |
| 09:49.27 | tarzeau | dpkg NBS is non-breaking space |
| 09:49.28 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
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| 09:49.54 | erdal | tarzeau beni hatýrladýn mý |
| 09:49.57 | dondelelcaro | aka, one of the funky unicode characters that looks like a space until you try to actually do anything to it |
| 09:49.59 | erdal | 2 yýl önce |
| 09:50.06 | erdal | pcbilsim |
| 09:50.10 | erdal | kanalý açmýþtýk |
| 09:50.14 | andax | erdal: could you use english please? |
| 09:50.25 | tarzeau | erdal: valla iki sene uzun bir zaman, ama burada ingilizce konusmak lazim, istersen #debian.tr 'de devam ederiz |
| 09:50.32 | hcy | output is four lines, please look in #flood |
| 09:50.47 | hcy | dondelelcaro: ^ |
| 09:50.49 | erdal | tamam |
| 09:50.51 | erdal | gir |
| 09:51.04 | dondelelcaro | hcy: heh. there's something quite obviously wrong there |
| 09:51.21 | hcy | dondelelcaro: is there a NBS there? |
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| 09:52.06 | dondelelcaro | hcy: doesn't look like it, but you've got all sorts of other gook there. |
| 09:52.16 | hcy | dondelelcaro: nothing 'looks' wrong if I edit it in nano... doesn't mean there isn't anything wrong, though |
| 09:52.30 | dondelelcaro | hcy: .[1;34mfmtut <--- this is not normal |
| 09:52.32 | hcy | dondelelcaro: the columns are just separated by tabs |
| 09:52.40 | phycho | oh oh |
| 09:52.40 | phycho | Checking PROT_EXEC mmap in /tmp...OK |
| 09:52.40 | phycho | tracing thread pid = 16570 |
| 09:52.41 | phycho | Segmentation fault |
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| 09:52.44 | dondelelcaro | hcy: right, but there's some wierd formatting character leading into it |
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| 09:52.54 | phycho | stupid segfault |
| 09:53.09 | hcy | dondelelcaro: weird |
| 09:53.21 | juice` | is there any easy way to check what package versions are on experimental right now? /m dpkg info package experimental doesnt work |
| 09:53.21 | dondelelcaro | hcy: basically, edit yours until it looks like the one that I gave |
| 09:53.34 | hcy | dondelelcaro: well is there a way to strip them with sed or something? |
| 09:53.38 | dondelelcaro | juice`: add an experimental sources.list line, and show the packages whicih are there. |
| 09:54.15 | dondelelcaro | hcy: perl -pi -e 's/[^\w\d\t\s\.]+//g' /usr/share/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr.map; should probably do it |
| 09:54.34 | juice` | i was just wondering about some procject progess, like apache 2.2 and such |
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| 09:55.11 | dondelelcaro | juice`: it's not in experimental. If you want to help with apache, join debian-apache@lists.debian.org; and help out. |
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| 09:55.31 | hcy | dondelelcaro: does that perl command need to be piped somwhere, to a new file? |
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| 09:55.41 | dondelelcaro | hcy: no, it edits the file in place. |
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| 09:55.57 | hcy | dondelelcaro: ok it didn't change it |
| 09:56.02 | dondelelcaro | hcy: really? |
| 09:56.18 | hcy | dondelelcaro: i gotta run to get my daughter from preschool. i'll be back in about half an hour, will you still be around? |
| 09:56.42 | hcy | dondelelcaro: correction, it may have changed it but the weird control chars are still there |
| 09:56.43 | dondelelcaro | hcy: probably not, but I'll stick my cnf file up on archimedes.ucr.edu/ss which you can replace yours with. |
| 09:56.47 | hcy | dondelelcaro: bbiab |
| 09:57.02 | hcy | dondelelcaro: thanks i appreciate that |
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| 09:57.07 | uwe | hello, anyone here familiar with NIS, im having trouble su-ing into newly created accounts |
| 09:57.11 | dondelelcaro | hcy: or you can just dpkg -i tetex-bin again, and it should be replaced with a good one. |
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| 09:58.07 | hcy | dondelelcaro: i gotta run, please /msg me the url to your cnf file in case this scrolls up before i return |
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| 09:58.33 | resiak | (and an awaylog.) |
| 09:59.44 | uhbg7ftyjkokm | hacker bastards. |
| 10:00.04 | dondelelcaro | ? |
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| 10:02.15 | Teltariat | They hacked your nick while they were at it? |
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| 10:04.11 | resiak | That was ... unusual. |
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| 10:09.49 | uwe | hello, im having trouble getting NIS to work properly, can anyone help please, when i create a new user on the server, i cant su to it on the clients |
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| 10:11.56 | mrkofee_ | hi, i'm trying to set up adsl via pppoe with ipv6 but i cant "dial in" to the isp and i dont find the mistake in pppd :( http://paste.debian.net/3990 |
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| 10:13.27 | jm_ | there's no dialing with pppoe |
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| 10:15.32 | mrkofee_ | i know - i dont how its called correctly |
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| 10:16.07 | broadcaster | anybody knows an apt-source for thunderbird 1.5? |
| 10:16.36 | broadcaster | don't want to wait for testing to get it... |
| 10:16.37 | Guerin | broadcaster: just use the binary packages from mozilla.org |
| 10:16.44 | broadcaster | hmm, ok |
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| 10:21.35 | stoned | btw, the video card I bought has dual head capability, one vga out, and one dvi out/convert to vga. how would I go about doing a dual head system, I have another monitor |
| 10:21.44 | stoned | I am running sarge |
| 10:22.01 | stoned | nvidia/gefoce 5200 128mb |
| 10:22.20 | donald | Hi! Ive got Samba 3 as PDC. Is it possible to configure, that a user cannot change the password from the WinXP and Win2000 Clients? |
| 10:22.51 | oskie | hehe... mozilla firefox can't do ftp uploads?! |
| 10:23.09 | valdyn | mrkofee_: you're trying to authenticate via pap, but its saying 'no auth possible', do you even need to authenticate? |
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| 10:23.41 | jm_ | stoned: read their readme about twinview |
| 10:23.41 | mrkofee_ | i got a username and a password so i think i have to |
| 10:23.51 | stoned | ok |
| 10:24.06 | matju | anyone's got a conflict updating sid x86_64 ? with package udev |
| 10:24.31 | valdyn | mrkofee_: ..and does your ISP even support ipv6 ? |
| 10:24.40 | mrkofee_ | yes |
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| 10:25.08 | mrkofee_ | this is a ipv6 only flat for testing valdyn |
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| 10:26.19 | stoned | jm_: do I need xorg? |
| 10:26.24 | valdyn | mrkofee_: try setting debug in /etc/ppp/peers/yourprovider |
| 10:26.27 | jm_ | stoned: no |
| 10:26.42 | jm_ | that was with debug - you don't get such log without debug |
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| 10:26.51 | valdyn | uh |
| 10:26.51 | stoned | ok, its quite simple hehe, im abou to hook up the monitor and config my X |
| 10:26.51 | valdyn | ok |
| 10:26.58 | mrkofee_ | i already did this valdyn :) |
| 10:27.18 | jm_ | but I wonder what that means - maybe it can't find a proper client/server pain in pap-secrets to authenticate with |
| 10:27.25 | jm_ | pair even |
| 10:28.10 | Guerin | matju: #debian-amd64 |
| 10:28.55 | valdyn | mrkofee_: paste a garbled copy of your pap-secrets line |
| 10:29.04 | mrkofee_ | mom |
| 10:29.17 | valdyn | mrkofee_: like "2385rasdfh@provider.net" * "23134123415" |
| 10:29.46 | mrkofee_ | "sd4/titandsl.de-myname" * "passowrd" |
| 10:30.22 | valdyn | mrkofee_: sure there's no @ sign in it? |
| 10:30.36 | mrkofee_ | yes |
| 10:30.39 | jm_ | I don't use any @ either |
| 10:30.42 | valdyn | mrkofee_: i dont know to many german dsl providers, the 2 i know need @online.de for example |
| 10:30.43 | mrkofee_ | thats what i got per mail |
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| 10:31.13 | mrkofee_ | yes but @online.de providers all using t-com backbone |
| 10:31.32 | valdyn | mrkofee_: yea |
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| 10:31.48 | mrkofee_ | this is non t-com :) |
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| 10:33.01 | mrkofee_ | gimme a second i will try something |
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| 10:34.35 | valdyn | mrkofee_: after that line "Connect: ppp0 <--> eth1" you miss "PAP authentication succeeded" |
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| 10:35.38 | phycho | how do i force a package to install without dependancies? |
| 10:35.45 | valdyn | phycho: you dont |
| 10:35.49 | phycho | im trying to install a package and it wants me to install a shitload of crap |
| 10:35.51 | phycho | which i dont want. |
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| 10:35.55 | phycho | like libmysql and shit |
| 10:36.10 | valdyn | phycho: if something depends on something else, then it does not work without that |
| 10:36.11 | phycho | total bloatware |
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| 10:36.19 | phycho | im quite sure libqt4-dev |
| 10:36.24 | Guerin | phycho: you might not want it, but depends aren't there for fun; they're there because they're needed. |
| 10:36.27 | phycho | does not need 90megs worth of dependancies! |
| 10:36.36 | jm_ | haha |
| 10:36.39 | valdyn | phycho: yea it does |
| 10:36.40 | Guerin | phycho: dude, it's qt. It's all about bloat! |
| 10:36.42 | phycho | omg |
| 10:36.45 | phycho | lol |
| 10:37.00 | phycho | im trying to build a UML kernel |
| 10:37.06 | phycho | and i dont really want all that crap on my UML box |
| 10:37.10 | Guerin | phycho: then you don't need libqt |
| 10:37.15 | valdyn | phycho: you dont need to use make xconfig or make qtconfig |
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| 10:37.19 | phycho | i do.. xconfig doesnt work without it |
| 10:37.25 | phycho | ah.. |
| 10:37.26 | weissi | psycho: dpkg --force-depends -i <pkg> |
| 10:37.26 | Guerin | !make xconfig |
| 10:37.26 | dpkg | No, don't. Don't make gconfig either. Make menuconfig like a sane person. Please, think of the penguins. |
| 10:37.37 | phycho | haha |
| 10:37.40 | Guerin | weissi: don't tell people to break their package management system |
| 10:37.47 | phycho | would make menuconfig ARCH=um work? |
| 10:37.50 | weissi | psycho: but don't do it :-) |
| 10:38.04 | Guerin | phycho: suck it and see |
| 10:38.07 | phycho | k |
| 10:38.27 | ArtVandalae | Hi guys, I want to write a list of all my directories in a directory. ls > list.txt works, but it also lists the normal files in that directory. Is there any easy way for it to only list directories? |
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| 10:38.40 | liable | anyway, thats prolly the wrong qt thing if it wants all the other shit anyway.. |
| 10:38.47 | phycho | heh |
| 10:38.51 | weissi | ArtVandalae: find <dir> -type d |
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| 10:38.59 | jm_ | ArtVandalae: ls -d */ |
| 10:39.15 | jm_ | so yes there is an easy way, or ls *(/) with zsh |
| 10:39.17 | mrkofee | mhhhh now i got a completely other error http://paste.debian.net/3992 |
| 10:39.25 | jm_ | add -d to that too |
| 10:39.46 | dondelelcaro | find . -type d -maxdepth 1; is also quite useful... |
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| 10:42.47 | valdyn | mrkofee_: you have a fixed IP ? |
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| 10:43.34 | mrkofee | mhhh ipv4 is dynamic but the ipv6 flat has a static /48 präfix |
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| 10:44.41 | valdyn | mrkofee_: i dont know much about ipv6, but i'd just set statically what is statical |
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| 10:45.16 | mrkofee | http://www.titan-dsl.de/index.php?link=produkte&sub=titandsl&cnt=titandsl7 <- if you speak german this is my ip6 access |
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| 10:46.50 | x-x- | don't you need to tunnel tru a ipv6 tunnel broker? |
| 10:47.04 | mrkofee | nope |
| 10:47.10 | valdyn | mrkofee_: ah you're not even supposed to get an ipv4 IP i guess |
| 10:47.11 | mrkofee | its native |
| 10:47.25 | x-x- | nice.. germans :D |
| 10:47.40 | mrkofee | valdyn: i have 2 seperate dsl lines one for ipv4 (8mbit) and one vor v6 |
| 10:48.24 | jm_ | what's the trick in 15EUR price per month? |
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| 10:48.47 | weissi | fuck, this ipv6 dsl-flatrate is for free :-) |
| 10:48.49 | x-x- | you are bound to atleast 1 year contract |
| 10:48.50 | mrkofee | jm_: nothing, you can get a real ipv4 flat (no downlooad limit, no time limit) for under 5 euro |
| 10:48.54 | valdyn | mrkofee: wow, this is free? |
| 10:48.56 | valdyn | mrkofee: neat |
| 10:49.01 | mrkofee | valdyn: yes :) |
| 10:49.01 | tug | Starting apache 2.0 web server...(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80 |
| 10:49.06 | x-x- | umm |
| 10:49.07 | tug | any solutions for this? |
| 10:49.07 | x-x- | nvm |
| 10:49.14 | valdyn | mrkofee: not like ipv6 is very useful atm though, i guess? |
| 10:49.16 | jm_ | mrkofee: this page says 10 |
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| 10:49.25 | mrkofee | valdyn: yes :) |
| 10:49.31 | mrkofee | jm_: www.congster.de |
| 10:49.47 | jm_ | mrkofee: ohh other providers, and I thought it's fairly expensive in Germany ... |
| 10:49.59 | x-x- | tug: check your apache conf, bind section |
| 10:50.15 | Guerin | tug: netstat -plaunt |grep :80 # be root |
| 10:50.17 | x-x- | it's free here aswell, but as a tunnel |
| 10:50.19 | mrkofee | yep :) |
| 10:50.51 | mrkofee | i know x-x- i used a tunnel through hurricane electric but the pings are sooooo sloooooooooooooooooooow |
| 10:51.33 | x-x- | no, i can get a tunnel from my isp/backbone provider |
| 10:51.48 | mrkofee | ah ok |
| 10:52.04 | x-x- | that's nother story :) |
| 10:52.08 | phycho | heh |
| 10:52.08 | mrkofee | :-) |
| 10:52.13 | x-x- | *story |
| 10:52.22 | mrkofee | hehe |
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| 10:52.27 | x-x- | grr.. freaking irssi is messing up text input |
| 10:52.45 | phycho | anyone know if its possible to use ipv6 in a user mode linux jail? |
| 10:53.10 | mrkofee | dont know, but in vmware it works |
| 10:53.19 | phycho | k |
| 10:53.36 | tug | x-x-, I didnt change the conf file which part should I be looking at? |
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| 10:53.47 | tug | Guerin, then? |
| 10:53.59 | Guerin | tug: then sort it out. |
| 10:54.03 | x-x- | :) |
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| 10:54.26 | Guerin | tug: only one thing can listen on a given interface and port at one time. |
| 10:54.31 | mrkofee | tug: maybe there is another apache running on this ip/port? |
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| 10:54.45 | x-x- | tug: open up the conf and search for "bind" |
| 10:54.53 | x-x- | probably :) |
| 10:54.58 | x-x- | anyway |
| 10:55.21 | x-x- | need to restart irssi, mashed text aint easy to read |
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| 10:59.27 | TUNIX | has somebody a rep.-url to get libc6 <=2.3.5-1 from? |
| 10:59.44 | mrkofee | no one any idea for my problem? :( |
| 11:00.04 | valdyn | mrkofee: maybe ipv6cp-use-persistent |
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| 11:00.25 | tug | Guerin, I can see something else is using port 80 but how do I know what it is? |
| 11:00.38 | mrkofee | ill give it a try |
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| 11:00.45 | Guerin | tug: if you did what I told you, you'd be able to see the name of the process |
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| 11:01.35 | tug | Guerin, it says httpd |
| 11:01.45 | tug | but I cannot killalll httpd :S |
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| 11:01.51 | Guerin | tug: so httpd is already running. |
| 11:02.00 | Guerin | tug: how are you trying to start apache2? |
| 11:02.04 | valdyn | mrkofee: and maybe additionally "noip" as you are not supposed to use ipv4 |
| 11:02.11 | Luftzig | I just got a USB keyboard. it works in bios, but not in debian. do I need to load some special module for it? |
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| 11:02.34 | tug | Guerin, /etc/init.d/apache2 start |
| 11:02.53 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: hotplug |
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| 11:03.17 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: Install it |
| 11:03.20 | crypt_ex | How can I enable num lock by default? |
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| 11:03.27 | dvm1981 | !hotplug |
| 11:03.27 | dpkg | i guess hotplug is a auto detect that are pluged into a running system (USB / IDE) http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/ , or see discover |
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| 11:03.39 | Guerin | tug: restart |
| 11:03.56 | mrkofee_ | and there is anoher error message lol |
| 11:04.00 | Guerin | tug: do you start something that's already running, usually, or do you turn it off and start it again? |
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| 11:04.08 | mrkofee_ | but it looks better |
| 11:04.24 | Luftzig | dvm1981, right on it. thanks |
| 11:04.57 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: you're welcome |
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| 11:05.27 | tug | Guerin, it says its not running and I am getting the same error message again |
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| 11:05.49 | mrkofee_ | http://paste.debian.net/3996 |
| 11:06.12 | tug | Guerin, no pidfile found! not running?(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80 |
| 11:06.18 | BACbKA | hi. I am using debian (mostly etch) box with CUPS and foomatic installed, and am seeking for an intuitive multi-page PS viewer that would allow any of the pages to be printed and autosplit (each page of the PS file is too big to fit on a single sheet). Right now I know how to do it in GIMP, but that's a bit too hard to do (for a setup involving a non-power user I am trying to help). |
| 11:06.31 | Guerin | tug: ok, so it's been started by some eejit not using the init file |
| 11:06.38 | Guerin | tug: kill the process and try again |
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| 11:06.39 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: Installed ? |
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| 11:07.59 | valdyn | mrkofee: look into the pppd manpage, at the option "ipv6", you could set local ip and remote ip statically |
| 11:08.06 | myren | whast the extension for a bzip'd tar file again? |
| 11:08.20 | BACbKA | myren: .tar.bz2 |
| 11:08.20 | Guerin | myren: tar.bz2 or tbzs |
| 11:08.23 | Guerin | tbz2 |
| 11:08.27 | Luftzig | dvm1981, no. in modconf, under drivers/hotplug there's few choises, non off which sounds like my usb port menufactor |
| 11:08.38 | tug | Guerin, cannot kill doesnt seems started :S httpd: no process killed |
| 11:08.40 | mrkofee_ | k |
| 11:08.41 | valdyn | mrkofee: but maybe this error is just because you did not disable ipv4 ( noip option ) |
| 11:08.42 | myren | kk, thanks |
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| 11:08.51 | Guerin | tug: kill the process id |
| 11:09.03 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: 'apt-get install hotplug' |
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| 11:09.11 | mrkofee_ | you mean noipdefault? |
| 11:09.28 | valdyn | mrkofee: no, "noip" |
| 11:09.33 | mrkofee_ | ill try it :) |
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| 11:09.42 | Luftzig | dvm1981, ah! and I was looking in the modules... |
| 11:09.50 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: no matters, i think |
| 11:09.57 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: hotplug |
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| 11:10.45 | cire | I recognized my /dev/dsp devices have been disappearing, I think somehow it switched from oss to alsa (may this be correct?), so I told KDE to use ALSA as Sound System. Now, xmms doesn't work (it will play, but i cannot hear anything), and settings in kmixer don't change anything (I think...). Any suggestions? |
| 11:11.16 | dr1v3r | guys whats the command to clean up your system again? The one i am looking for is the one that cleans up all of the package files that is left after apt-get remove |
| 11:11.23 | dr1v3r | i hope someone can help please |
| 11:11.30 | tug | Guerin, there is no sign of it in ps ux |
| 11:11.30 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: hotplug installed ? |
| 11:11.37 | Luftzig | dvm1981, why the fuck apt wants to remove gnome in the process? |
| 11:11.37 | valdyn | dr1v3r: you mean configuration files left behind? |
| 11:12.23 | valdyn | Luftzig: you arent runing sarge, are you? |
| 11:12.24 | dr1v3r | yea valdyn |
| 11:12.34 | dr1v3r | ones that left behind after you have removed them |
| 11:12.39 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: I not use Gnome, but that say me somethings there, i think about it |
| 11:12.51 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: udef |
| 11:12.58 | Luftzig | I'm running etch |
| 11:12.59 | valdyn | dr1v3r: dpkg --purge <packagename> or use apt-get remove --purge <packagename> in the first palce |
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| 11:13.02 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: Gnome use udef i think |
| 11:13.18 | zignig | bleh! |
| 11:13.25 | valdyn | Luftzig: you dont need hotplug then, its part of udev, which you already got installed if you have 'gnome' installed |
| 11:13.35 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: its not udev, i asked to dpkg |
| 11:13.42 | dvm1981 | udev ?? |
| 11:13.53 | dr1v3r | i need one that will just remove any left over files without having to type in the package name, as i dont know ever package that has been installed and removed again |
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| 11:14.04 | dvm1981 | hotplug >> udev (gnome)?? |
| 11:14.08 | jm_ | cire: use alsamixer |
| 11:14.16 | rambo3 | apt removed hotplug when i installed kernel 2.5.15 |
| 11:14.20 | valdyn | dvm1981: udev contains its own hotplug. |
| 11:14.29 | rambo3 | 2.6.15 |
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| 11:15.11 | dvm1981 | valdyn: Luftzig needs somethings to get his USB keyboard working, hi use gnome, installing hotplug will remove gnome it seems |
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| 11:15.54 | valdyn | dvm1981: as I tried to explain you, you _already_ have hotplug functionality if you have udev installed in debian > sarge |
| 11:16.16 | chakatz | Anybody know when openoffice.org.is expected to be ready for amd64? |
| 11:16.25 | Guerin | chakatz: hahah |
| 11:16.25 | valdyn | dvm1981: does your keyboard work in console and just not in X? |
| 11:16.28 | dvm1981 | valdyn, it's not for my, i try to support Luftzig |
| 11:16.38 | valdyn | dvm1981: ops |
| 11:16.39 | Guerin | chakatz: when all the java is either gone or ported to something sane |
| 11:16.45 | crypt_ex | How can I enable num lock by default? |
| 11:16.50 | dvm1981 | valdyn: can you support Luftzig ? |
| 11:16.50 | Luftzig | dvm1981, valdyn, so I udev is installed.... and I don't use gnome, but I'd like to keep it anyway. so if i have udev, how do I get the KB working? |
| 11:17.01 | chakatz | What a hastle! |
| 11:17.09 | jm_ | you can enable it in BIOS if you have a half decent motherboard, then there's numlockx |
| 11:17.10 | valdyn | Luftzig: is your keyboard working in console? |
| 11:17.21 | valdyn | Luftzig: ( and just not in X ? ) |
| 11:17.24 | crypt_ex | thanks jm_ |
| 11:17.33 | Luftzig | valdyn, no, it isn't |
| 11:17.42 | valdyn | !usb keyboard |
| 11:17.42 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: That is the question, thinking about ... I have also Gnome, and also not use it, so interesting in the problem |
| 11:18.00 | valdyn | Luftzig: your bios should have a legacy keyboard option |
| 11:18.12 | Guerin | _rene_: oo.o on amd64? |
| 11:18.14 | jm_ | crypt_ex: or setleds for cnsole |
| 11:18.15 | valdyn | Luftzig: not sure atm which driver activates your usb keyboard |
| 11:18.59 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: Have you look at the BIOS ? |
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| 11:19.05 | jm_ | usbhid should cover it |
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| 11:19.26 | Luftzig | it's a Logitech some thing. I turned on the bios usb support |
| 11:19.30 | valdyn | im confused that its not activated by your udevs hotplug however |
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| 11:19.48 | valdyn | Luftzig: does 'lsusb' list your keyboard |
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| 11:20.11 | Luftzig | valdyn, it does... |
| 11:20.17 | dvm1981 | udev |
| 11:20.21 | dvm1981 | !udev |
| 11:20.22 | dpkg | somebody said udev was at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
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| 11:20.38 | chakatz | Guerin: But there is java for amd64 |
| 11:20.42 | dvm1981 | Need we the 2.6 kernel ? |
| 11:20.47 | valdyn | Luftzig: lsmod | grep hid |
| 11:20.48 | dvm1981 | or higher ? |
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| 11:21.12 | Guerin | chakatz: but as far as I'm aware the java in oo.o isn't 64-bit clean |
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| 11:21.45 | crypt_ex | jm: That was very strange, in the BIOS it was enabled...so I disabled and now numlock works :S |
| 11:21.50 | Guerin | haha |
| 11:21.53 | jm_ | crypt_ex: haha |
| 11:21.54 | Luftzig | valdyn, lsmod | grep hid returns nothing. to install that module? |
| 11:21.55 | Guerin | 100,000 downloads |
| 11:21.56 | Guerin | what a joke |
| 11:22.05 | valdyn | Luftzig: 'modprobe usbhid' |
| 11:22.13 | chakatz | Guerin:I see, thanks a lot. So I'll either install the 32 bit or put it in a virtual server that I'm going to set up. |
| 11:22.16 | crypt_ex | jm_, actually tell a lie... I tested it at gdm, now in gnome it dont work! :S |
| 11:22.23 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: i have here two lines |
| 11:22.32 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: usbhid 32000 0 |
| 11:22.32 | dvm1981 | usbcore 118308 6 ehci_hcd,usbhid,ohci_hcd,ndiswrapper |
| 11:22.35 | jm_ | crypt_ex: GNOME may very well have its own setting for this, overriding it |
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| 11:22.45 | Guerin | !floodsmite dvm1981 |
| 11:22.48 | crypt_ex | jm_, gnome-conf? |
| 11:22.53 | Luftzig | valdyn, modprobe returns nothing as well |
| 11:22.57 | jm_ | crypt_ex: I have no idea, I don't use it |
| 11:22.57 | dvm1981 | Guerin: for two lines ?? |
| 11:23.17 | valdyn | Luftzig: that's expected, run 'dmesg' to see the message(s) |
| 11:23.28 | crypt_ex | what do you use then jm? |
| 11:23.29 | Luftzig | lsmod | grep usb |
| 11:23.30 | Luftzig | usbhid 28864 0 |
| 11:23.32 | Luftzig | usb_storage 59328 0 |
| 11:23.33 | Luftzig | usbcore 104164 5 usbhid,ohci_hcd,usb_storage |
| 11:23.35 | jm_ | crypt_ex: just a window manager of my choice |
| 11:23.35 | Luftzig | scsi_mod 115148 3 usb_storage,sd_mod,sg |
| 11:23.36 | Guerin | !floodsmite $1 is <action> leaves $1 out of the #debian ark for the crime of flooding. |
| 11:23.36 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
| 11:23.37 | Luftzig | ide_core 125028 5 usb_storage,ide_cd,ide_generic,ide_disk,alim15x3 |
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| 11:24.05 | phycho | wow.. user mode linux is really difficult to setup |
| 11:24.06 | crypt_ex | jm_, no fancy crap for you then ;) |
| 11:24.18 | crypt_ex | I used to like windowmaker sometime ago |
| 11:24.22 | phycho | certainly isnt for the faint of hearted. |
| 11:24.23 | dvm1981 | Guerin: Take a break man !!! |
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| 11:24.30 | Luftzig | that's the last lines: usbcore: registered new driver hiddev |
| 11:24.32 | Luftzig | input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [Logitech Logitech USB Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:02.0-2 |
| 11:24.34 | Luftzig | input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech Logitech USB Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:02.0-2 |
| 11:24.35 | jm_ | crypt_ex: you don't need that for serious work |
| 11:24.35 | Luftzig | usbcore: registered new driver usbhid |
| 11:24.37 | Luftzig | drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver |
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| 11:25.47 | dvm1981 | !shit |
| 11:25.48 | dpkg | somebody said shit was fecal matter.. scratch your ass, sniff your finger. Smell that? Shit. |
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| 11:26.31 | Luftzig | ah! and it works! |
| 11:26.36 | Luftzig | thanks you all! |
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| 11:26.53 | valdyn | Luftzig: 'echo usbhid >> /etc/modules' |
| 11:27.08 | _rene_ | Guerin: use the i386 one |
| 11:27.11 | valdyn | Luftzig: and i still dont know why this isnt loaded automatically, oh well |
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| 11:27.30 | _rene_ | Guerin: amd64 porting is still far from complete |
| 11:27.48 | valdyn | complete? |
| 11:27.50 | madbull | hi i'm trying to configure vlans on debian and having problmes |
| 11:27.52 | valdyn | you mean 100% ? |
| 11:27.53 | Luftzig | thanks valdyn! thanks dvm1981 ! |
| 11:28.06 | valdyn | or just oo.org? |
| 11:28.09 | madbull | i've tryied using the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 11:28.18 | madbull | and vconfig from the command line |
| 11:28.28 | madbull | I can't get any of my tagged vlans to work |
| 11:28.29 | dvm1981 | Luftzig: Thx to Debian GNU/Linux also ;-) |
| 11:28.52 | _rene_ | valdyn: OOo |
| 11:28.52 | madbull | i'm running a 2.6-8-2 386 kernel |
| 11:29.12 | _rene_ | valdyn: simply doesn't work on amd64 yet. nor does it on any other 64-bit processor. |
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| 11:29.19 | valdyn | _rene_: yea |
| 11:29.25 | valdyn | _rene_: that lame pos |
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| 11:29.49 | _rene_ | lol, you have no idea how many work that is and how hard they are working on it... |
| 11:30.08 | _rene_ | ok, sun doesn't really care and lets suse and the community doing the stuff, but... |
| 11:30.08 | Luftzig | thanks Debian GNU/Linux! :D |
| 11:30.17 | valdyn | _rene_: yea, i guess its more the code they have to port than the people doing it |
| 11:30.21 | pm_ | there is any good desktop distro that can be installed in a 32mb ram machine? |
| 11:30.22 | jm_ | really? so it doesn't work on Sparcs either? |
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| 11:30.46 | valdyn | pm_: dsl maybe |
| 11:30.52 | pm_ | dsl? |
| 11:30.57 | valdyn | !dsl |
| 11:30.57 | dpkg | methinks dsl is Digital Subscriber Line, the wonder technology the telcos will nevertheless find a way to turn into a con, or better than cable. http://www.dslreports.com or Damn Small Linux, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ |
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| 11:31.02 | mrkofee | pm_: i'm using debian with fvwm |
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| 11:31.32 | pm_ | mrkofee yes, i tried to install ubuntu, but its installer requires 64mb of ram |
| 11:31.40 | dvm1981 | dominicano: hello man, sleep enought ? |
| 11:32.00 | weissi | pm_: try debian woody |
| 11:32.20 | mrkofee | or try debootstrapping from a livecd |
| 11:32.30 | pm_ | weissi it is not a good desktop linux...too hard to configure, and i have 50 machines to install it, |
| 11:32.32 | dominicano | dvm1981, yes, :D |
| 11:32.58 | dvm1981 | dominicano: i drink another cup coffe ;-) |
| 11:32.59 | weissi | pm_: ahh, you need desktop linux, ok |
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| 11:33.04 | crypt_ex | this Debian box (Sarge) when booting up reports pivot_root file is not present, how can I install this file or stop it from try to call it? |
| 11:33.18 | dominicano | dvm1981, I need one |
| 11:33.22 | valdyn | crypt_ex: use a debian kernel |
| 11:33.34 | ootput | coffee is a terrible addiction |
| 11:33.49 | dominicano | dvm1981, you don not sleep man? |
| 11:33.52 | mrkofee | pm_: what about suse? *please dont beat me* |
| 11:33.54 | dvm1981 | ootput: lesser that Debian man |
| 11:34.06 | ootput | debian is mild |
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| 11:34.08 | pm_ | mrkofee no way, i want debian. |
| 11:34.08 | crypt_ex | valdyn, I am 2.6.8 image from a deb |
| 11:34.12 | dominicano | dvm1981, what were you doing? |
| 11:34.13 | weissi | mrkofee: they need 2G of ram to install ;-) |
| 11:34.16 | dvm1981 | dominicano: hhhhmmm, i go to, but, i not want to sleep, |
| 11:34.23 | weissi | an older SuSE could work |
| 11:34.33 | mrkofee | weissi: irony :-) |
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| 11:34.53 | valdyn | !pivot_root |
| 11:34.57 | mrkofee | afaik yast2 needs at least 128mb ram *lol* |
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| 11:35.14 | weissi | ok, so a _VERY_ old suse ;-) |
| 11:35.20 | dvm1981 | valdyn: you must learn it to him, i have also try it to get more info |
| 11:35.26 | mrkofee | :) |
| 11:35.26 | valdyn | pm_: you're not going to be able to run 'modern' applications on that machine |
| 11:35.27 | crypt_ex | valdyn, kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 |
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| 11:35.39 | ootput | wouldn't one of the older BSDs suffice? |
| 11:35.46 | weissi | pm_: what apps do you need? |
| 11:35.49 | dominicano | dvm1981, you don not have class today? |
| 11:35.50 | valdyn | pm_: so you dont really need a 'modern' distro either. |
| 11:36.02 | dominicano | dvm1981, or you do not have class anymore? |
| 11:36.03 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Im not a student, you ? |
| 11:36.23 | dominicano | dvm1981, yes i am, |
| 11:36.24 | pm_ | weissi ooffice 2 |
| 11:36.28 | pm_ | and a desktop |
| 11:36.32 | rambo3 | whats the name of package where gtk libs are stored? |
| 11:36.45 | mrkofee | pm_: have a look at mepis it seems to be very small and its debian based |
| 11:36.46 | weissi | pm_: with 32m of RAM? |
| 11:36.47 | dvm1981 | dominicano: you're in the class now ? |
| 11:36.52 | weissi | impossible! |
| 11:37.07 | dvm1981 | !impossible |
| 11:37.09 | weissi | pm_: or you do a remote-x server |
| 11:37.10 | valdyn | crypt_ex: when did this error occur the first time? when upgrading 2.4.x to 2.6.x kernel? |
| 11:37.13 | crypt_ex | valdyn, just checking out the man page for this, but really cant understand why I am missing this |
| 11:37.23 | dvm1981 | dpkg not know that :-) |
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| 11:37.44 | crypt_ex | valdyn, all the time now...I have upgraded from kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 to kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 11:38.00 | valdyn | crypt_ex: and your disk controller is a sata controller? |
| 11:38.01 | crypt_ex | valdyn, have not removed earlier kernel either |
| 11:38.08 | crypt_ex | valdyn, Nope, IDE |
| 11:38.13 | weissi | pm_: you could use the machines only as a display and run oo2 on a big server, X will do that for you |
| 11:38.17 | valdyn | crypt_ex: you can still use your old kernel to boot though? |
| 11:38.29 | dominicano | dvm1981, no man, i am a theater student |
| 11:38.30 | valdyn | crypt_ex: which controller is it? |
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| 11:38.43 | valdyn | !listkeys pivot |
| 11:38.44 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'pivot' by key returned no results. |
| 11:38.46 | chapeaurouge | hi.. i downloaded the debian-31r1a-ia64-netinst.iso, the md5sum matches, but the cd won't autoboot |
| 11:38.47 | crypt_ex | valdyn, havent tried, since I have upgraded I have not used the older kernel |
| 11:38.47 | dvm1981 | dominicano: nice :-) |
| 11:38.57 | crypt_ex | valdyn, would be the first on the ide cable |
| 11:39.03 | chapeaurouge | any idea? |
| 11:39.09 | valdyn | crypt_ex: which controller is it? |
| 11:39.09 | dvm1981 | !listkeys |
| 11:39.14 | crypt_ex | valdyn, there was a second disk, which I have removed. |
| 11:39.19 | jm_ | chapeaurouge: and you have Itanium CPU, right? |
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| 11:39.23 | crypt_ex | valdyn, the first I would image. |
| 11:39.24 | chapeaurouge | jm_, yes |
| 11:39.27 | chapeaurouge | well |
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| 11:39.29 | chapeaurouge | EMT64 enabled |
| 11:39.31 | crypt_ex | imagine |
| 11:39.33 | chapeaurouge | Pentium Dual core |
| 11:39.35 | jm_ | chapeaurouge: that's not Itanium |
| 11:39.40 | chapeaurouge | ok |
| 11:39.46 | valdyn | crypt_ex: you cannot just remove disks in an ide system |
| 11:39.47 | chapeaurouge | is that a known pb? |
| 11:39.49 | dvm1981 | There is a thing changed with dpgk |
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| 11:39.56 | jm_ | yes, it's called PEBKAC |
| 11:40.00 | dvm1981 | !debian |
| 11:40.00 | dpkg | debian is probably http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
| 11:40.04 | valdyn | crypt_ex: try booting your 2.4.x kernel, if that doesnt work, put back your old disk |
| 11:40.07 | chapeaurouge | jm_, is it BIOS configurable? |
| 11:40.12 | crypt_ex | valdyn, oh right. Well I had no choice, the disk needed moving |
| 11:40.13 | jm_ | chapeaurouge: no, /msg dpkg pebkac |
| 11:40.17 | chapeaurouge | ok |
| 11:40.18 | chapeaurouge | thcx |
| 11:40.26 | crypt_ex | valdyn, the disk is history now :( |
| 11:40.41 | valdyn | crypt_ex: then jus ttry booting your 2.4 kernel |
| 11:41.00 | crypt_ex | valdyn, its no problem, Debian loads fine, just this error message reporting that pivot_root file does not exist |
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| 11:41.16 | crypt_ex | valdyn, okay |
| 11:41.20 | valdyn | crypt_ex: oh _just_ the error but your system boots fine? |
| 11:41.22 | stoned | jm_: I got twinview setup exactly hwo I want, there is one more thing I need to do but i cant seem to find a way to specify it anywhere. I have another machine on my network, working as an application server. I installed kicker(kde's panel) so I could easily launch apps on the powerful server, and I ssh -X into it, and start kicker &. I want kicker to run on monitor number 2, not the main monitor 1. how can I do that, I couldn't drag it |
| 11:41.28 | dvm1981 | dominicano: You're KDE version is been 3.4 now ? |
| 11:41.41 | crypt_ex | valdyn, yea... I was just wondering if its an underlying problem or not . |
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| 11:41.48 | crypt_ex | valdyn, system is sweet as a nut |
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| 11:41.52 | jm_ | stoned: are you using KDE? |
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| 11:42.01 | stoned | on the application server yes |
| 11:42.14 | stoned | not on my desktop |
| 11:42.22 | jm_ | stoned: try asking in #debian-kde or #kde |
| 11:42.28 | stoned | ok |
| 11:42.35 | dominicano | dvm1981, no, i did not upgrade |
| 11:42.36 | Guerin | wtf |
| 11:42.48 | weissi | pm_: oo2 needs at leat 128m of ram to run natively (source: openoffice.org) |
| 11:42.48 | valdyn | crypt_ex: well, your 'df' might not reflect reality, that would be possible |
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| 11:43.08 | dvm1981 | dominicano: We needs to talk about you're upgrade, tell me how you have do it. I think you are not in etch now |
| 11:43.11 | dominicano | dvm1981, i don't know why, |
| 11:43.30 | dominicano | dvm1981, i don't know why, but you are right, i'm not in etch |
| 11:43.51 | chapeaurouge | jm_, it doesn't work |
| 11:43.52 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Ok, i think you forget somethings |
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| 11:44.07 | chapeaurouge | jm_, Problem betweek keyb and chair? wtf? |
| 11:44.23 | crypt_ex | valdyn, df output looks fine...if its not a problem, I can happily ignore it, just just curious |
| 11:44.27 | dvm1981 | '/etc/apt/source.list' the words 'Stable' you have change with 'Testing' ?? |
| 11:44.32 | dominicano | dvm1981, i were trying to upgrade with te command "apt-get upgrade" |
| 11:44.40 | crypt_ex | valdyn, what *exactly* does pivot_root do though? |
| 11:44.42 | dvm1981 | dominicano: no |
| 11:44.49 | jm_ | chapeaurouge: yes, spot on |
| 11:44.57 | chapeaurouge | jm_, meaning i am the pb? |
| 11:44.58 | dominicano | dvm1981, but i must write "aptitude dist-upgrade" |
| 11:45.03 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Then 'apt-get update' |
| 11:45.05 | jm_ | chapeaurouge: yes :) |
| 11:45.07 | chapeaurouge | lol |
| 11:45.12 | chapeaurouge | well, im not.. the 32bits version boots |
| 11:45.14 | zignig | jm_: do you think debian is heading in the right direction ? |
| 11:45.18 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Then 'apt-get dist-upgrade' |
| 11:45.28 | valdyn | crypt_ex: I dont know it exactly, its related to your system not finding the root fs when chrooting to it from the initrd |
| 11:45.28 | chapeaurouge | jm_, md5 match. CD was burned the right way |
| 11:45.30 | jm_ | chapeaurouge: once again, YOU DO NOT HAVE ITANIUM CPU |
| 11:45.45 | jm_ | zignig: I have no idea what direction it's heading in :) |
| 11:45.47 | zignig | jm_: should it be leaner and tighter , or bigger and slower (to deveolop) |
| 11:45.50 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Have you follow ? |
| 11:45.55 | chapeaurouge | jm_, ok. so i should install the 32bits version, even tho it's a 64bits CPU? |
| 11:45.56 | crypt_ex | valdyn, very strange, its some food for thought though. ta |
| 11:46.00 | zignig | jm_: that way -> :) |
| 11:46.07 | dominicano | dvm1981, yes |
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| 11:46.13 | jm_ | chapeaurouge: yes, either use x86 version or the AMD64 version if you really think you need to use 64bit arch |
| 11:46.16 | IronRoses | depkg nvidia |
| 11:46.21 | IronRoses | dpkg nvidia |
| 11:46.25 | chapeaurouge | jm_, ok. thanks |
| 11:46.36 | IronRoses | hmph |
| 11:46.49 | zignig | !+dpkg nvidia |
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| 11:47.01 | Gnea | !nvidia |
| 11:47.06 | IronRoses | !nvidia |
| 11:47.10 | Gnea | hrm |
| 11:47.18 | IronRoses | !dpkg nvidia |
| 11:47.20 | zignig | !kick dpkg |
| 11:47.31 | Gnea | dpkg died again |
| 11:47.38 | zignig | stoopid bot. |
| 11:47.38 | dvm1981 | Ask to Guerin: about it |
| 11:47.47 | dominicano | dvm1981, i have a conflict doing aptitude dist-upgrade" ""vim-gnome: vs vim-gtk""""" |
| 11:47.50 | jm_ | zignig: ideally it would be released in shorter intervals, but it's very hard to achieve that with so many packages - I remember the idea where it was proposed that it would be split in smaller unities, which could be released faster, but who knows if that's realistic as well |
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| 11:48.01 | Gnea | zignig: at least the bot knows how to spell |
| 11:48.04 | dvm1981 | !shit |
| 11:48.12 | nairu | j |
| 11:48.13 | jm_ | @nvidia |
| 11:48.25 | Gnea | ~nvidia |
| 11:48.27 | apt | somebody said nvidia was proprietary? no dri? |
| 11:48.27 | als | xx |
| 11:48.34 | Guerin | grr, wait on |
| 11:48.34 | liable | all bots are off! :P |
| 11:48.43 | Gnea | lol |
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| 11:48.49 | zignig | jm_: indeed, I've always thought that debian should work on a 'core' apt/dpkg/blah that is fast secure and small. |
| 11:48.53 | weissi | apt tell me about mozilla |
| 11:49.04 | weissi | yeah apt speaks with me :-) |
| 11:49.14 | dvm1981 | dominicano: what you use ? |
| 11:49.20 | Gnea | apt tell me about your mother |
| 11:49.22 | zignig | jm_: and have the plethora of packages as orbits or layers. |
| 11:49.22 | liable | ~good bot |
| 11:49.22 | apt | :), liable |
| 11:49.29 | dominicano | dvm1981, kde |
| 11:49.43 | dvm1981 | dominicano: no about vim |
| 11:49.47 | dominicano | dvm1981, but i have some app frome gnome of course |
| 11:50.01 | dominicano | dvm1981, i just use vim |
| 11:50.08 | zignig | jm_: server packages solid , bind/apache/php/mysql/postgres, and have the rest as 'semi-unsupported' outer packages. |
| 11:50.10 | Gnea | zignig: what do you need to know about nvidia? |
| 11:50.11 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Remove then vim-gnome or so |
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| 11:50.30 | dvm1981 | hello |
| 11:50.34 | Guerin | 11:22:37<dpkg> told Error_X about nvidia one liner (somebody said nvidia one-liner was apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential module-assistant && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources>) |
| 11:50.34 | dominicano | dvm1981, if i made this the aptitude says that gonna remove KDE |
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| 11:50.35 | zignig | Gnea: nothing , don't run it , I was trying to get the factiod for IronRoses |
| 11:50.44 | Guerin | there you go |
| 11:50.44 | dominicano | dvm1981, do you bealive it?!!! |
| 11:50.53 | dvm1981 | dominicano: i have not give these tip to use aptitude |
| 11:50.56 | Gnea | oh |
| 11:50.59 | Gnea | Guerin: you tard |
| 11:51.03 | Gnea | ~nvidia one-liner |
| 11:51.04 | apt | apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential module-assistant && apt-get install -t unstable nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-source && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install -t unstable nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib, non-free, sid sources all needed. see <quick ... |
| 11:51.21 | zignig | Gnea: smacktard! |
| 11:51.24 | Guerin | bah, so why were these dumb bastards complaining about it? |
| 11:51.29 | Gnea | hehehe |
| 11:51.43 | dominicano | dvm1981, see http://pastebin.com/525469 |
| 11:51.46 | Guerin | i had to grep through about 100MB of logs for that! |
| 11:51.50 | dvm1981 | dominicano: right |
| 11:51.51 | zignig | ~seen mwilson |
| 11:51.52 | apt | mwilson <i=8SaUcgh2@ip70-179-43-17.sd.sd.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 101d 14h 45m 29s ago, saying: 'liam: Why use nvagp over the kernel AGP driver?'. |
| 11:52.26 | zignig | wtf? the #debian grump has piked? |
| 11:52.46 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Sorry i not understand it, its spanish |
| 11:52.52 | Gnea | apparantly |
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| 11:53.14 | dominicano | dvm1981, he say that he gonna remove me kde kdeaddons vim-gtk vimpart if I do this |
| 11:53.17 | dvm1981 | dominicano: hhhm |
| 11:53.34 | dvm1981 | dominicano: remove 'vim-gnome' no that other one |
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| 11:53.47 | Luftzig | so just one more thing: anyones knows some easy to understand guide for mapping keyboards? I wnat to use all of that extra keys shit |
| 11:53.51 | dominicano | dvm1981, vim-gnome is not installed |
| 11:54.07 | jm_ | hotkeys is one of the applications that can manage them |
| 11:54.17 | dvm1981 | ~kde |
| 11:54.18 | apt | it has been said that kde is #kde - meet the community, http://www.kde.org/ |
| 11:54.28 | zignig | Luftzig: look at the package hotkeys, for multimedia keyboards. |
| 11:54.30 | dvm1981 | ~metapackage |
| 11:54.31 | apt | i guess metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. |
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| 11:54.54 | dvm1981 | kde is an metapackage ? |
| 11:54.57 | Gnea | Luftzig: apt-get install hotkeys |
| 11:54.58 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 11:55.13 | Gnea | jetscreamer: good morning |
| 11:55.13 | Luftzig | zignig, the name sounds familiar... I'll check it ooout |
| 11:55.23 | jetscreamer | howdy |
| 11:55.23 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: So if we remove it, KDE also removed ?? |
| 11:55.25 | N0S3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.34 | Guerin | no |
| 11:55.37 | liable | hola |
| 11:55.40 | Guerin | dvm1981: no. |
| 11:55.40 | jetscreamer | no just the meta package and other meta's |
| 11:55.58 | jetscreamer | if even the others |
| 11:56.07 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Have you follow ? |
| 11:56.10 | jm_ | unless you installed it with aptitude in which case it might remove its dependencies too |
| 11:56.12 | dvm1981 | Guerin: thx |
| 11:56.19 | liable | hah, you should wish kde was that easy to remove.. |
| 11:56.25 | cusco | Hi! I have a identd running and while connecting to irc network dalnet my username/ident field is always the same.. can I configure it to use oident? |
| 11:56.41 | Guerin | jm_: extra helpful! |
| 11:56.51 | N0S3 | liable: hola! |
| 11:57.01 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Have you follow ? |
| 11:57.09 | jetscreamer | oh yeah ... and aptitude is > *eh |
| 11:57.13 | dominicano | dvm1981, yes man... but i told you that vim-gnome is not installed, and when I try to uninstall vim-gtk he says gonna remove kde |
| 11:57.14 | dvm1981 | its for support dominicano ... |
| 11:57.17 | jm_ | cusco: you have my permission |
| 11:57.27 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Have you follow ??? |
| 11:57.34 | jetscreamer | dominicano: let it |
| 11:57.36 | cusco | jm_: the thing is I don't know how to |
| 11:57.38 | jetscreamer | it's ok |
| 11:57.40 | liable | dominicano: just let it remove kde. |
| 11:57.45 | jm_ | cusco: apt-get install oidentd |
| 11:57.47 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Scroll back in this window and read the info that everybody has give |
| 11:58.09 | liable | dominicano: its a *meta* package |
| 11:58.10 | jetscreamer | see also /lastlog <nick> (no trailing spaces) |
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| 11:58.54 | dvm1981 | liable, jetscreamer , and everybody here Thankx |
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| 12:00.21 | dvm1981 | the bots will not work today, |
| 12:00.34 | dvm1981 | dominicano: right ? |
| 12:00.39 | deitarion | I know it's a bit off topic but, does anyone know what combination of LADSPA plugins and settings is necessary to duplicate the effect of XMMS's "Extra Stereo" effect plugin? |
| 12:01.03 | dominicano | dvm1981, yes i follow you |
| 12:01.10 | dvm1981 | dominicano: and ? |
| 12:01.17 | madbull | can anyone here help me with vlan configuration? |
| 12:01.27 | dvm1981 | dominicano: in etch now ? |
| 12:01.32 | dominicano | dvm1981, could you see it again, now is in english http://pastebin.com/525478 |
| 12:01.38 | dvm1981 | dominicano: okay |
| 12:02.01 | liable | hrm, thunderbird is eating my mail. |
| 12:02.24 | jetscreamer | it must have been hungry and your mail had a worm... |
| 12:02.31 | jetscreamer | (bird, worm...) |
| 12:02.35 | jetscreamer | laugh damn you!!! |
| 12:02.47 | dvm1981 | dominicano: aaai again, i have not give the tip to use aptitude |
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| 12:02.54 | Matt-H | need medical attention... sides split from laughing... *collapse* |
| 12:02.57 | deitarion | In my case, it's refusing to work reliably as an RSS reader. Out of fear for my mail (and laziness) I use the GMail web interface now. |
| 12:03.07 | liable | haha?? |
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| 12:03.17 | dvm1981 | Someone has read the pastebin of dominicano to give some advieses ? |
| 12:03.39 | dvm1981 | im not sure and not would like to mess up his system |
| 12:03.49 | dominicano | http://pastebin.com/525478 |
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| 12:04.42 | dvm1981 | dominicano: normally its not a problem, if my, i press yes. but wait to give some advieses from others... |
| 12:04.48 | virtu | hi.. anyone know an alternative place to get debian packages? I need libncurses5 and libncurses5-dev but dont find in any place |
| 12:04.53 | jetscreamer | !info kdeaddons |
| 12:04.59 | Guerin | liable: apt-get install thunderbird-food |
| 12:05.06 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: ~ |
| 12:05.20 | zignig | jetscreamer: dpkg is out of action. |
| 12:05.22 | dvm1981 | ~info kdeaddons |
| 12:05.27 | jm_ | virtu: they're on Debian mirrors |
| 12:05.35 | dominicano | dvm1981, i made it, i say Y to the command |
| 12:05.43 | Guerin | liable: or you could just grab the 'spam' metapackage, which haas the bonus if enlarging your penis, freeing you of all debt and giving you a free rolex! |
| 12:05.43 | virtu | jm_ tks (just tell me one please?) |
| 12:05.45 | jetscreamer | ok apt forget it :) |
| 12:05.54 | jm_ | virtu: www.debian.org has a list of all of them |
| 12:05.55 | dominicano | dvm1981, it remove a lot of metapackages |
| 12:06.01 | virtu | jm_ ok.. let me check |
| 12:06.03 | dvm1981 | metapackages |
| 12:06.16 | dominicano | dvm1981, it remove kdeamusements, and some stuff like that |
| 12:06.20 | zignig | ~fnord |
| 12:06.22 | apt | bugger all, i dunno |
| 12:06.25 | jetscreamer | apt used to be the default |
| 12:06.32 | zignig | ~kick dvm1981 |
| 12:06.33 | apt | bugger off sod! |
| 12:06.39 | jetscreamer | apt was god but got deposed by dpkg |
| 12:06.40 | virtu | jm_ which link inside debian.org? |
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| 12:06.52 | dvm1981 | zignig: crap crap crap |
| 12:06.59 | zignig | dvm1981: :P |
| 12:07.10 | zignig | dvm1981: so you're a debian user huh ? |
| 12:07.14 | zignig | punk |
| 12:07.17 | jm_ | virtu: why don't you show some adventurous spirit and click arround? Perhaps "Getting Debian" is a good place to start |
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| 12:07.26 | dvm1981 | zignig: you not, its looks ... |
| 12:07.42 | zignig | dvm1981: I am , debian and OSX , M$ free household. |
| 12:07.45 | liable | Guerin: heh, my penis is so large now, that i strap my rolex on it.. |
| 12:07.48 | virtu | jm_ I was there |
| 12:08.02 | Guerin | !liable++ |
| 12:08.04 | dvm1981 | zignig: M$ is crap crap crap |
| 12:08.14 | jetscreamer | ms is as good as the admin |
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| 12:08.31 | jetscreamer | just not as good |
| 12:08.34 | Guerin | zignig: there's nothing to be proud of about using OSX |
| 12:08.46 | zignig | dvm1981: it has it's place, the apps are better than they were , but the way M$ conducts is business is so .us |
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| 12:08.54 | Guerin | zignig: apple are as bad for free software as microsoft |
| 12:08.57 | zignig | Guerin: :P , it's a nice os , actually. |
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| 12:09.06 | Guerin | zignig: it's bsd with chrome |
| 12:09.07 | dvm1981 | zignig: monopolisme, in not like it, really not like it |
| 12:09.12 | zignig | Guerin: don't care , it works. |
| 12:09.16 | Guerin | and a shite terminal emulator |
| 12:09.29 | dominicano | dvm1981, i made aptitude dist-upgrade and... it doesn't do anything |
| 12:09.49 | zignig | Guerin: all my serious work is done on the debian machines. |
| 12:09.50 | dvm1981 | dominicano: i not give these tip to use 'aptitude', again |
| 12:09.55 | jetscreamer | that is a good thing isn't it |
| 12:09.56 | Guerin | zignig: i'm just sayin: no need to crow about your MS-free household. |
| 12:10.06 | dominicano | dvm1981, pk |
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| 12:10.17 | zignig | Guerin: it's a web browser/imap client/mp3 player with a shiny slick GUI. |
| 12:10.20 | dominicano | dvm1981, i need a coffee too, |
| 12:10.25 | Guerin | it's sort of like buying at the puma shop and saying "look at me! i don't support nike's sweatshops!" |
| 12:10.27 | dvm1981 | dominicano: one cup ? |
| 12:10.46 | dvm1981 | dominicano: i take me also one man ;-) |
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| 12:10.59 | zignig | Guerin: why not , i don't hate M$ , I just don't _have_ to use it. |
| 12:11.14 | virtu | jm_ I just found ISO images... and I dont want it.. I already have an iso image... in cd1 dont have libncurses5 and libncruses5-dev packages and debian.packages site are out... |
| 12:11.17 | zignig | Guerin: hhehe, nice analogy. :) |
| 12:11.42 | jm_ | virtu: libncurses5 is installed already, because it's in base |
| 12:12.02 | zignig | Guerin: true enough, but I got OSX with the (nice) hardware I bought. |
| 12:12.04 | virtu | jm_ why I cant go with make menuconfig? |
| 12:12.07 | dominicano | dvm1981, ok, hold a minute |
| 12:12.15 | virtu | it said that libncurses5-dev are missing |
| 12:12.17 | Guerin | zignig: oh, that makes it so much better. |
| 12:12.24 | zignig | Guerin: it does. |
| 12:12.31 | liable | how the fuck do you get thunderbird to fetch local mail? |
| 12:12.56 | zignig | liable: fucking pop3 or fucking imap server. |
| 12:12.57 | fireba11 | liable: use localhost as mailserver ? |
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| 12:13.02 | mentorofAustria | liable: Define local? |
| 12:13.18 | Guerin | zignig: because you didn't pay for it, right? And it isn't supporting apple's DRM and software patent evilness? |
| 12:13.31 | jetscreamer | i find it HARD to believe that google couldn't find the word libncurses5 on debian.com |
| 12:13.36 | jetscreamer | but it didn't |
| 12:13.36 | jm_ | virtu: you need -dev package |
| 12:13.37 | zignig | dvm1981: mmmm caffine. |
| 12:13.52 | jetscreamer | uh |
| 12:13.53 | dvm1981 | zignig: ;-) |
| 12:13.53 | Guerin | you shouldn't have to run a local pop or imapd to make chunderbird get local mail |
| 12:13.56 | jetscreamer | i'm stupid |
| 12:13.58 | Guerin | that's just braindead |
| 12:13.59 | virtu | jm -dev didnt in debian cd1 |
| 12:14.06 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: really not |
| 12:14.15 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: i wish it |
| 12:14.17 | virtu | jm_ thats why I need it... |
| 12:14.19 | liable | zignig: no, i am not going to run a server just for local mail, kthxbye |
| 12:14.22 | zignig | Guerin: their 'evil' drm suits my usage, and all the software works , I really don't give a toss if it's GPL or not. |
| 12:14.23 | liable | fireba11: nup |
| 12:14.27 | liable | mentorofAustria: system mail |
| 12:14.31 | jetscreamer | http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=libncurses5&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=lang_en&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=debian.org&as_rights=&safe=off |
| 12:14.31 | jm_ | virtu: yes, download it from the mirrors and install it |
| 12:14.32 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: i know it, sorry |
| 12:14.36 | jm_ | virtu: or use apt-get ... |
| 12:14.38 | jetscreamer | .org not .com |
| 12:14.46 | jetscreamer | !pal jetscreamer |
| 12:14.52 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 12:15.06 | virtu | jm_ I dont have an internet connection on debian working yet (getting new kernel to compile new module to my USB modem) |
| 12:15.06 | zignig | liable: use 'mail' then . |
| 12:15.17 | zignig | ~kick dpkg |
| 12:15.18 | apt | bugger off sod! |
| 12:15.20 | jetscreamer | dominicano: go to that link and d/l the .deb |
| 12:15.21 | jm_ | virtu: ok so download it now and install it |
| 12:15.26 | virtu | so I have to find it on mirrors.. but I am with trouble to find it |
| 12:15.27 | zignig | dvm1981: nope ;P |
| 12:15.28 | liable | zignig: movemail :) |
| 12:15.32 | virtu | thats why I join here... |
| 12:15.41 | jetscreamer | err virtu |
| 12:15.47 | dvm1981 | zignig: Take the power cable of his ;-) |
| 12:15.51 | fireba11 | liable: still i somehow expected it just to read local mail direclty ... |
| 12:15.52 | jetscreamer | ^^^ |
| 12:16.04 | zignig | liable: what's wring with running a pop3/imap server locally ? |
| 12:16.10 | virtu | jetscreamer ok |
| 12:16.14 | zignig | s/i/o |
| 12:16.27 | zignig | bleh to you and your cats! |
| 12:16.28 | jm_ | http://ftp.<countrycode>.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/ncurses/libncurses5-dev_5.4-4_i386.deb |
| 12:16.30 | jetscreamer | i didn't know what flavor debian so no direct link |
| 12:16.34 | jm_ | it's so easy to find |
| 12:17.16 | zignig | dvm1981: perc or instant ? |
| 12:17.18 | Guerin | zignig: baaaah. |
| 12:17.32 | dvm1981 | zignig: 'senseo' |
| 12:17.34 | zignig | Guerin: ? |
| 12:17.43 | zignig | dvm1981: ? |
| 12:17.48 | virtu | jm_ thanks |
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| 12:17.55 | kurtak | Hello. Does anyone know if it's possible to get super sharp text/fonts like in windows?? Every X env I have does this anti-aliasing which makes all the fonts fuzzy, when compared to Win. You know what I mean?? |
| 12:17.59 | liable | grr, no listchanges. |
| 12:18.07 | dvm1981 | zignig: a machine to make coffe, with coffe patchs |
| 12:18.11 | jm_ | you can disable antialiasing |
| 12:18.19 | kurtak | Like in Xterm or Aterm, the text there is crisp |
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| 12:18.27 | fireba11 | kurtak: anto-aliasing si supposed to make it look better, but of course you can disable it |
| 12:18.36 | zignig | dvm1981: so infusion not dehydration. |
| 12:18.41 | jetscreamer | so is cleartype an ms thing? |
| 12:18.44 | kurtak | jm_: if i disable antialiasing, then the edges look even worse- all jagged |
| 12:18.51 | dvm1981 | zignig: lol |
| 12:18.52 | zignig | dvm1981: I bequeath you 2 extra points for style. |
| 12:19.03 | jetscreamer | kurtak: use different fonts? |
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| 12:19.15 | fireba11 | jetscreamer: yes, that's M$ |
| 12:19.21 | kurtak | fireball: do you know what i mean when you compare the text in Xterm, and then an X app like thunderbird? |
| 12:19.25 | Guerin | kurtak: you can change the antialias settings in gnome or kde options, or using xmodmap |
| 12:19.30 | Guerin | or xresources |
| 12:19.30 | ootput | kurtak: use non-xft fonts that are designed to look best at smaller sizes |
| 12:19.31 | jm_ | kurtak: not if you use the same fonts that look nice in terminals - then again, some web pages will not look like they are meant to |
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| 12:19.43 | toad_ | roughly every 24 hours, my X server stops responding to the keyboard and starts using 100% cpu. the mouse still works. i have to reboot to fix it. is this a known problem? |
| 12:19.47 | Guerin | <3 fixed |
| 12:19.52 | toad_ | this is in sarge |
| 12:19.58 | ootput | profont mate |
| 12:20.05 | kurtak | jetscreamer: i've tried all fonts, it's the same fuzzy aliasing for all |
| 12:20.08 | ootput | but fixed is still nice |
| 12:20.09 | jetscreamer | google it |
| 12:20.13 | dominicano | jetscreamer, ok |
| 12:20.14 | toad_ | i used to have the x.org backport but it was unreliable... |
| 12:20.16 | fireba11 | toad_: hm .. you checked for cronjobs that might be running at that time ? |
| 12:20.17 | Guerin | ootput: does it do unicode? |
| 12:20.28 | jetscreamer | dominicano: ignore my last statement to you |
| 12:20.36 | jetscreamer | i put the wrong name sorry |
| 12:20.41 | toad_ | fireba11: good point, will try to record when it happens... |
| 12:20.44 | kurtak | ootput: thanks for the hint... do you know how to determine how a font is xft or not? |
| 12:20.50 | toad_ | today it was about 12ish... |
| 12:20.51 | jetscreamer | dont d/l libncurses5-debv |
| 12:20.55 | toad_ | i started using it |
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| 12:20.59 | toad_ | and then it just stopped |
| 12:21.09 | jetscreamer | unless you want to, then jus tapt-get install it |
| 12:21.15 | toad_ | that happens quite often, which leads me to think it's not time dependant |
| 12:21.20 | ootput | Guerin: not that i'm aware of |
| 12:21.21 | zignig | jetscreamer: I wish we could deuglify the whole of terra at the moment. |
| 12:21.22 | toad_ | but i'll try that |
| 12:21.30 | Guerin | kurtak: all the fonts x wants to use by default are xft |
| 12:21.40 | Guerin | ootput: that makes it useless for my purposes |
| 12:22.01 | dvm1981 | dominicano: are all good ? and the cup of coffe ? |
| 12:22.02 | kurtak | Guerin: Oh, then is there a trick to use non-xft fonts? |
| 12:22.13 | Guerin | kurtak: you can change the resources, though - lessen the hinting |
| 12:22.46 | Guerin | kurtak: try: |
| 12:22.49 | Guerin | #Xft.hinting: 1 |
| 12:22.49 | Guerin | #Xft.hintstyle: hintmedium |
| 12:22.53 | toad_ | where's the homepage for the x.org backport? i've tried messaging dpkg and it hasn't responded |
| 12:22.55 | toad_ | oh |
| 12:22.58 | toad_ | i haven't identified |
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| 12:23.08 | chikinu | hello im new with linux |
| 12:23.11 | Guerin | kurtak: put that (minus #) in a file and run xrdb -merge file |
| 12:23.14 | chikinu | can anybody tell me whats a pipe? |
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| 12:23.21 | Guerin | kurtak: then start a new x app and see if there's a change |
| 12:23.21 | jetscreamer | toad dpkg |
| 12:23.23 | jetscreamer | ^^ |
| 12:23.24 | epsilon | chikinu: | |
| 12:23.27 | kurtak | Guerin: ahh, ok, i'll try |
| 12:23.28 | jetscreamer | use apt |
| 12:23.44 | toad_ | jetscreamer dpkg doesn't respond even after i have identified |
| 12:23.47 | jetscreamer | ~tell toad -about backport |
| 12:23.51 | jetscreamer | use apt |
| 12:23.56 | jetscreamer | ~what are you |
| 12:23.57 | apt | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 12:24.02 | toad_ | oh, apt |
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| 12:24.07 | zignig | apt: slap me |
| 12:24.08 | apt | ACTION slaps zignig, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 12:24.11 | jetscreamer | dpkg is hung over or something |
| 12:24.15 | weissi | chikinu: a pipe is the '|' symbol and it means: the output of program proga is send to the input of progb if you do this: " proga | progb " |
| 12:24.20 | BoldStrike | does clearlooks have a window design of its own? |
| 12:24.26 | toad_ | right, so my best option is to google :) |
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| 12:24.35 | jetscreamer | and what is that alternate font server |
| 12:24.38 | dvm1981 | zignig: have you some bugs ? |
| 12:24.42 | jetscreamer | the true type one or something |
| 12:24.53 | jetscreamer | is that just an xfree86 thing or is it xorg also |
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| 12:25.54 | kurtak | Guerin: i don't notice a difference |
| 12:26.08 | zignig | dvm1981: yep , a nasty case of the cooties. |
| 12:26.27 | Guerin | kurtak: no ... i just tested it and nor do I. |
| 12:26.29 | zignig | dvm1981: the powder seems to be helping. |
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| 12:26.39 | zignig | dvm1981: ;) |
| 12:26.43 | jetscreamer | xtt vs xfs or something |
| 12:26.55 | Guerin | kurtak: you can configure xfs's hinting, though. |
| 12:26.59 | dvm1981 | zignig: lol |
| 12:27.03 | Guerin | kurtak: gnome and kde have guis for it |
| 12:27.15 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Is you're problem solved ? |
| 12:27.27 | jetscreamer | ~xtt |
| 12:27.29 | apt | hmm... xtt is true type fonts for X |
| 12:27.45 | kurtak | Guerin: thanks a bunch! i'll lookup any such utilities |
| 12:27.50 | BoldStrike | anyone know if clearlooks has a window deisgn of its own or is mine just not working for some reason? |
| 12:27.56 | Guerin | kurtak: kcontrol and gnome-control-panel |
| 12:28.06 | valdyn | kurtak: dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig; dpkg-reconfigure x-ttcidfont-conf; and the abovemenetioned GUI utilities |
| 12:28.06 | toad_ | hmmm |
| 12:28.08 | toad_ | deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ sarge main |
| 12:28.10 | toad_ | no longer valid |
| 12:28.12 | toad_ | 404's |
| 12:28.21 | BR_WARRIOR | I'm using gdb do debug a crashed application (it uses gtk), but the gnu debugger toke a way I never saw: I used a initial break point, I ride by the code using "c", and when I give "s" to start the crash function, it return the error, without show the first line.. What it should mean ? |
| 12:28.24 | toad_ | so presumably it's somewhere on backports.org? |
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| 12:28.31 | valdyn | toad_: yes |
| 12:28.39 | Guerin | toad_: see http://people.debian.org/~nobse/ |
| 12:28.45 | toad_ | valdyn the wierd thing is backports.org points to that url! |
| 12:28.54 | valdyn | toad_: in older news yes |
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| 12:29.10 | toad_ | Guerin nothing there |
| 12:29.14 | jetscreamer | ~tell TT -about root |
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| 12:29.18 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 12:29.24 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: yes man |
| 12:29.39 | Guerin | huh, the whole repo has moved |
| 12:29.42 | fireba11 | can someone point me to a simple too to monitor free HD space and email when under a certain amount ? |
| 12:29.44 | jetscreamer | bsd wtf command ? |
| 12:29.47 | valdyn | toad_: read the news for Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:40:00 CEST |
| 12:29.51 | fireba11 | tool even |
| 12:29.54 | dvm1981 | So could nobody restart the dpkg bot ? really ? |
| 12:30.04 | valdyn | !test |
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| 12:30.15 | Guerin | what's the time in california right now? |
| 12:30.21 | valdyn | dvm1981: only dondelelcaro could |
| 12:30.29 | valdyn | @test |
| 12:30.29 | jetscreamer | utc -8 i think |
| 12:30.36 | zignig | fireba11: munin makes nice shiny graphs |
| 12:30.40 | BoldStrike | 4:30am |
| 12:30.40 | Guerin | by my calculations it should be early in the morning on the 27th |
| 12:30.45 | zignig | Guerin: night time ! |
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| 12:30.49 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: hello man, wake up, could i give you a cup of coffe ?? |
| 12:30.53 | Guerin | so don is probably asleep, give him a rest |
| 12:30.55 | fireba11 | zignig: it's a headless server so email will be enough :-) |
| 12:30.57 | jetscreamer | it should be 2 hours earlier than utc -6 |
| 12:31.04 | jm_ | fireba11: gkrellm also supports alerts |
| 12:31.09 | sep | fireba11, munin is nice and easy and gives you graphs as a bonus |
| 12:31.11 | oskie | is it d'Ebro or d´Ebro - or could it be both? This is a polish last name |
| 12:31.18 | fireba11 | jm_ will read up on it, thanks |
| 12:31.19 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: apt is fine |
| 12:31.29 | zignig | fireba11: just run a cron jobs that emails you 'df -h' every night. |
| 12:31.32 | Guerin | oskie: an apostrophe is ' |
| 12:31.37 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: i love dpkg :-( |
| 12:31.55 | jm_ | that doesn't sound polish |
| 12:32.06 | fireba11 | zignig: actually thougth about that .. |
| 12:32.11 | cusco | Im running a identd by default.. and my username is cusco when it should be Tiago (on irc) how can I make my client decide the ident to use? |
| 12:32.15 | oskie | Guerin: yes, but when is acute (´) used alone? in names? |
| 12:32.17 | zignig | jm_: d'Ebroski ? |
| 12:32.18 | toad_ | /etc/apt/preferences doesn't exist... is that a problem? |
| 12:32.27 | zignig | fireba11: :) , it's easy. |
| 12:32.47 | valdyn | cusco: /help nick |
| 12:32.50 | toad_ | i should create it? |
| 12:32.50 | jm_ | zignig: unless ' is supposed to be something else |
| 12:32.56 | Guerin | oskie: nowhere that I know of. But people get to choose how their own names get spelt, so. |
| 12:33.08 | zignig | jm_: d' or de is usually 'son of' |
| 12:33.10 | cusco | valdyn: not nickname the ident/username bit |
| 12:33.28 | oskie | Guerin: hm, good point :P but sometimes they don't know what's best for them ... This person insists on d´, not d' |
| 12:33.32 | jm_ | zignig: yeah, it's common in other languages |
| 12:34.02 | Guerin | oskie: well, more power to them. |
| 12:34.05 | zignig | jm_: english misses out on so much of the cool fnordisizms. |
| 12:34.11 | jetscreamer | yeah just create iirc... i forget though |
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| 12:34.16 | Guerin | zignig: son of, or of, or even from |
| 12:34.27 | toad_ | hmmm |
| 12:34.37 | zignig | Guerin: indeed. |
| 12:34.43 | Guerin | english has enough cool fnordisizms of its own |
| 12:34.51 | toad_ | unless i explicitly ask it to |
| 12:34.59 | toad_ | now i just do apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 12:35.07 | toad_ | and it wants to install a whole load of stuff |
| 12:35.12 | toad_ | what's the problem? |
| 12:35.21 | valdyn | toad_: a whole load of stuff from backports? |
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| 12:35.26 | dvm1981 | Guerin: what would you say wit 'fnordisizms' |
| 12:35.27 | zignig | Guerin: it does, 37.2 ways to say the same thing makes inflection a powerfull tool. |
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| 12:35.44 | toad_ | valdyn yes |
| 12:35.46 | zignig | Guerin: insult people without even trying...... :) |
| 12:35.49 | toad_ | valdyn my sarge was up to date |
| 12:35.51 | Guerin | zignig: more phonemes than mandarin chinese, that's gotta be good for ya. |
| 12:36.01 | Guerin | zignig: you fluffy basket! |
| 12:36.08 | zignig | Guerin: ja , although english is not tonal. |
| 12:36.08 | jm_ | uphill gardener! |
| 12:36.12 | toad_ | is /etc/apt/preferences still the right place for directives such as that shown on the backports install page? |
| 12:36.17 | toad_ | it didn't exist... |
| 12:36.29 | zignig | Guerin: you , you , you , um. Big Silly! |
| 12:36.33 | Guerin | zignig: really? All my life I've not been speaking like a robot, who knew I could get away with monotony... |
| 12:36.41 | Guerin | jm_: haha |
| 12:36.56 | zignig | Guerin: try stuffing a solid up your nose and speak like a brit. |
| 12:37.14 | zignig | Guerin: jolly good show old chap. |
| 12:37.22 | Guerin | some students asked my mate Bill some swear words in english - he taught them 'poopy head' |
| 12:37.48 | Guerin | it has a direct equivalent in korean, so now they think it's a really bad thing to call someone |
| 12:37.50 | zignig | Guerin: hehe, smacktard and gimboid are my favorites this month. |
| 12:37.58 | toad_ | so how do i get backports working? |
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| 12:38.09 | toad_ | working as in only using backports when i actually ask it to? |
| 12:38.25 | toad_ | i can't just add individual package groups any more, it has to be the whole lot according to the instructions? |
| 12:38.27 | sep | toad_ you must create the preferences file |
| 12:38.31 | streuner | toad_: look at the instructions on their website |
| 12:38.35 | toad_ | sep: okay, i've done that |
| 12:38.41 | toad_ | streuner i am following the instructions |
| 12:38.46 | toad_ | i have created /etc/apt/preferences |
| 12:38.47 | streuner | fine |
| 12:38.50 | toad_ | and put in it what they said |
| 12:38.52 | sep | and you install with apt-get -t |
| 12:38.57 | toad_ | and then i do apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 12:39.08 | toad_ | as i would normally do for e.g. security updates in sarge |
| 12:39.18 | toad_ | and it wants to install a whole load of stuff from backports |
| 12:39.22 | toad_ | what am i missing here? |
| 12:39.33 | zignig | toad_: a girlfriend ? |
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| 12:39.57 | toad_ | zignig you know some folk on this channel are actually talking about debian related issues... |
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| 12:40.13 | icaro_ | dvm1981, hi again, the coffee was excelent |
| 12:40.15 | toad_ | like making your debian based system actually stable |
| 12:40.20 | streuner | toad_: well, did you create preferences file as the instructions told you? |
| 12:40.27 | zignig | toad_: fine , i'll get laid tonight and play on my debian boxen tommorow then. |
| 12:40.28 | toad_ | streuner yes |
| 12:40.35 | toad_ | zignig you do that |
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| 12:40.41 | zignig | toad_: I will. |
| 12:40.50 | dvm1981 | icaro_: yep |
| 12:40.55 | sep | toad_, using backports makes your system less stable, not more stable. :) |
| 12:41.11 | icaro_ | dvm1981, before, when i do a "poweroff" the system complete shutdown and the cpu poweroff, but now the system does not complete shutdown |
| 12:41.11 | toad_ | sep: i know that, but sarge isn't stable for me |
| 12:41.11 | streuner | or fuck you whole system... |
| 12:41.16 | streuner | s/you/your/ |
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| 12:41.18 | Guerin | woah, netbsd has firefox-gtk1 in ports |
| 12:41.21 | resiak | \o/ |
| 12:41.24 | toad_ | sep: every so often, x messes up |
| 12:41.27 | Dros | Hi. Somebody strong in package management? I need to know how to install a bulk of packages (stored in a textfile) on sarge. Any idea how to feed that list to apt? |
| 12:41.27 | resiak | Guerin: Get onto NetBSD right now! |
| 12:41.29 | BoldStrike | can someone please tell me about clearlooks |
| 12:41.37 | icaro_ | dvm1981, i must press the power |
| 12:41.37 | sep | toad_, well when you try to apt-get -t sarge-backports install whatever it dosnt work or what is your problem ? |
| 12:41.38 | toad_ | sep: CPU goes to 100%, and it stops responding to keyboard |
| 12:41.41 | dvm1981 | icaro_: apm or acpi |
| 12:41.49 | toad_ | sep: it's not a hardware problem i think because it works when I reboot |
| 12:41.50 | sep | toad_, i had that too on my new ich7 system |
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| 12:41.58 | icaro_ | dvm1981, i recent installed theses package |
| 12:41.59 | icaro_ | dvm1981, i recent installed theses packages |
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| 12:42.01 | Guerin | resiak: whee, and damnsmall has .debs! |
| 12:42.03 | tralala | Dros: apt-get install $(cat your.text.file) |
| 12:42.12 | Dros | thanks tralala |
| 12:42.16 | toad_ | sep: my problem is that I no longer can use the debian dist-upgrade command |
| 12:42.21 | sep | toad_, i tried everything... then a bios firmware upgrade and factory reset of bios fixed everything. |
| 12:42.25 | toad_ | which is THE standard tool for system maintenance |
| 12:42.27 | sep | toad_, becouse ??? |
| 12:42.47 | toad_ | sep: because when I do apt-get dist-upgrade it tries to install half the stuff from backports without me asking for it |
| 12:42.49 | sep | toad_, i never use dist-upgrade unless i upgrade a woody to a sarge. or a sarge to a etch,. |
| 12:42.50 | icaro_ | dvm1981, No APM support in kernel |
| 12:42.54 | streuner | toad_: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
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| 12:43.05 | toad_ | sep: upgrade then? i'l try that |
| 12:43.07 | sep | toad_, are you sure you'r preferences file is correct ? |
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| 12:43.14 | streuner | toad_: and tell us that for apt-get too! |
| 12:43.25 | toad_ | upgrade does the same thing |
| 12:43.41 | streuner | toad_: you didn't read the man page |
| 12:43.46 | sep | toad_, check that you typed preferences right.. it's a dificult word :) |
| 12:43.48 | streuner | no, it doesn't |
| 12:43.54 | toad_ | streuner i read the page on backports.org |
| 12:44.05 | streuner | fine |
| 12:44.15 | toad_ | sep i put it exactly as is on the web page |
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| 12:44.31 | jetscreamer | why mess with a backport |
| 12:44.34 | toad_ | sep /etc/apt/preferences |
| 12:44.35 | zignig | night all..... |
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| 12:44.42 | codders | morning all. |
| 12:44.43 | toad_ | jetscreamer because X11 simply isn't stable on plain sarge |
| 12:44.50 | tralala | dvm1981_lpt: /lastlog |
| 12:44.52 | jetscreamer | why not go etch i mean |
| 12:44.52 | jm_ | it sure is stable like hell |
| 12:44.57 | toad_ | X.org may well be MORE stable than Xfree86 on my system |
| 12:45.01 | Guerin | tralala: wtf |
| 12:45.04 | Guerin | toad_: wtf |
| 12:45.10 | codders | does anyone know a recommended way of attaching source for a debian library to a gdb session with a view to debugging the library calls? |
| 12:45.11 | toad_ | jetscreamer that's a good question, how stable *is* testing these days? |
| 12:45.16 | sep | toad_, well i have backports on this box. and mine only upgrade what i have installed so it's something you'd doing wrong. |
| 12:45.25 | Guerin | toad_: hand me the bong, you've had enough |
| 12:45.26 | Dros | tralala: Could you maybe tell me how to dump a list of all installed packages? |
| 12:45.28 | jetscreamer | pretty... i'd use it for a user's desktop |
| 12:45.29 | jm_ | codders: apt-get source? |
| 12:45.34 | codders | ye. got the source |
| 12:45.34 | jetscreamer | but ymmv |
| 12:45.37 | toad_ | Guerin every so often the keyboard dies and X goes to 100% CPU |
| 12:45.39 | tralala | Dros: aptitude search ~i |
| 12:45.41 | streuner | toad_: why didn't you answer my question? |
| 12:45.44 | codders | but gdb won't just let me step through the calls |
| 12:45.45 | jm_ | then you just have to tell gdb where to find it |
| 12:45.46 | toad_ | i was running with x.org a while ago |
| 12:45.50 | toad_ | streuner sorry |
| 12:45.54 | dvm1981_lpt | tralala, hhmm thats good to know, but not show the message about it |
| 12:45.54 | streuner | What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 12:45.55 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 12:45.55 | jm_ | it has to be compiled with -g |
| 12:45.55 | toad_ | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 12:45.55 | toad_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.01 | codders | k |
| 12:46.06 | codders | do rebake my own -g package? |
| 12:46.11 | abrotman | did anyone tell don that dpkg seems dead? |
| 12:46.12 | codders | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.17 | Guerin | ~info libc6 sarge |
| 12:46.24 | Guerin | abrotman: about 100 times |
| 12:46.24 | jm_ | yeah |
| 12:46.25 | codders | or is there a standard way to get debug librarys? |
| 12:46.27 | dominicano | dvm1981, still there man? |
| 12:46.27 | codders | k |
| 12:46.32 | abrotman | Guerin: hey .. i just got here .. just wondering |
| 12:46.33 | codders | i'll give that a go. thanks |
| 12:46.36 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, yep |
| 12:46.37 | dominicano | dvm1981, i was icaro |
| 12:46.47 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, i had understand |
| 12:46.52 | dominicano | dvm1981, i aske you something about apm |
| 12:46.57 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, i have swithed |
| 12:47.05 | dominicano | dvm1981, but forget it |
| 12:47.16 | Guerin | abrotman: wth are you doing up so early anyway? |
| 12:47.22 | dominicano | dvm198_lpt: why do you use lpt now? |
| 12:47.22 | toad_ | sep: i could switch to a USB keyboard which should avoid the BIOS, but I've had problems with that too |
| 12:47.24 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, if you use apm or acpi |
| 12:47.30 | toad_ | sep: and why does linux use the BIOS at all? |
| 12:47.36 | toad_ | even for keyboard? |
| 12:47.36 | abrotman | Guerin: "team" meeting bullshit fucktardedness |
| 12:47.39 | valdyn | codders: apt-cache search "\-dbg" |
| 12:47.39 | jetscreamer | it doesn't iirc |
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| 12:47.46 | abrotman | Guerin: i'm already at work :) |
| 12:47.52 | sep | toad_, i have no idea. but i spose you never get 100% around the bios do you ? |
| 12:47.52 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, i on my laptop now |
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| 12:48.05 | toad_ | <sep> toad_, i tried everything... then a bios firmware upgrade and factory |
| 12:48.05 | toad_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.22 | codders | valdyn: handy, but it ain't in the list :( |
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| 12:48.24 | dominicano | dvm1981_lpt, dvm1981 No APM support in kernel |
| 12:48.39 | toad_ | sep: you think? the BIOS is a bootloader which you can call at startup to get some settings as far as linux is concerned |
| 12:48.44 | toad_ | isn't it? |
| 12:48.50 | streuner | toad_: did you 'put' preferences file into /etc/apt? |
| 12:48.55 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, hhmmm; can change it; without doing much |
| 12:49.02 | toad_ | streuner i created /etc/apt/preferences |
| 12:49.14 | valdyn | codders: what isn't ? |
| 12:49.22 | codders | libupnp-dbg |
| 12:49.23 | streuner | toad_: just check your preferences with apt-cache policy |
| 12:49.32 | toad_ | and in it i put Package: *\nPin: release a=sarge-backports\nPin-Priority: 200 |
| 12:49.34 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, you must add somethings to the file '/boot/grub/menu.lst' |
| 12:49.54 | toad_ | backports is 200 |
| 12:49.55 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, wait i post the mine |
| 12:50.02 | toad_ | status is 100 |
| 12:50.05 | toad_ | everything else is 500 |
| 12:50.12 | valdyn | codders: apt-cache show libupnp-dev |
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| 12:50.27 | dominicano | dvm1981_lpt, ok |
| 12:50.28 | valdyn | codders: ..will tell you that that is not needed ( the -dbg package ) |
| 12:50.31 | fireba11 | jm_ munin looks really nice .. will probably use it in addition to my nagios |
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| 12:50.41 | codders | heh. thanks |
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| 12:51.07 | streuner | toad_: ls -l /etc/apt/preferences |
| 12:51.18 | toad_ | -rw------- 1 root root 60 2006-01-27 12:33 /etc/apt/preferences |
| 12:51.24 | streuner | toad_: just show us the file itself in paster bot |
| 12:51.34 | toad_ | streuner paster bot? |
| 12:51.40 | streuner | !paste |
| 12:51.43 | toad_ | !paste |
| 12:51.46 | streuner | !flood |
| 12:51.50 | toad_ | !flood |
| 12:51.58 | codders | valdyn: dpkg -L for that shows three libs which 'file' believes are stripped |
| 12:51.59 | toad_ | #flood? |
| 12:52.02 | dimir | fewd! |
| 12:52.02 | codders | s'not great |
| 12:52.13 | streuner | toad_: yes, good idea /j #flood |
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| 12:52.53 | toad_ | streuner you got that? |
| 12:53.09 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, first, need to remove acpi, then install apm again, then look on my config http://pastebin.ca/38774 |
| 12:53.11 | streuner | toad_: sorry, iam out of ideas then |
| 12:53.35 | toad_ | i ought to have pasted it here just to protest nobody /kickban'ing zigzig :) |
| 12:53.39 | jetscreamer | i had an idea |
| 12:53.46 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, i use acpi; but the same thing, replace acpi with apm |
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| 12:54.08 | dominicano | dvm1981_lpt, ok i gonna do |
| 12:54.14 | jetscreamer | streuner: use apt |
| 12:54.16 | toad_ | jetscreamer what idea? |
| 12:54.19 | dvm1981_lpt | dondelelcaro, wake up please and reset the dpkg bot please |
| 12:54.19 | jetscreamer | etch |
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| 12:54.27 | toad_ | that might do it yeah |
| 12:54.37 | jetscreamer | or |
| 12:54.40 | toad_ | the only problem is if that doesn't fix the probe |
| 12:54.46 | toad_ | the only problem is if that doesn't fix the problem it's irreversible and i'm stuck with it |
| 12:54.57 | dominicano | dvm1981_lpt, see this "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-386 root=/dev/hda8 ro vga=788 acpi=off " |
| 12:54.57 | toad_ | putting x.org in is at least reversible |
| 12:55.03 | valdyn | codders: that ought to be the symlinks to the non-debugging versions which would be what to expect, but i indeed see no debugging versions of those libraries |
| 12:55.06 | xoz | have you experience upgrading the kernel and then the postinstall script fucked the grub menu.lst? i just upgraded to kernel-2.6.15 and the locations of my root were changed. i don't know how the script computed my root which is supposed to be in hda1.. not in hda9 which it used. |
| 12:55.09 | jetscreamer | apt-get remove --purge xfree86* |
| 12:55.13 | jetscreamer | and xorg |
| 12:55.18 | jetscreamer | be a console man! |
| 12:55.19 | codders | suckiness |
| 12:55.19 | toad_ | how stable is testing? i ran unstable for years with no really serious problems |
| 12:55.25 | codders | well, i'm building the debug now anyway |
| 12:55.27 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, thats by you ? |
| 12:55.29 | codders | (i think) |
| 12:55.32 | streuner | toad_: show us what you get with apt-cache policy in paste.debian.net |
| 12:55.35 | toad_ | jetscreamer how do i ensure that it doesn't upgrade everything else on my system to the backports version? |
| 12:55.44 | jetscreamer | toad_: streuner knows more |
| 12:55.49 | jetscreamer | listen to him |
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| 12:55.54 | dominicano | dvm1981_lpt, dvm1981 yes |
| 12:56.01 | jetscreamer | i just erase stuff when i don't like it |
| 12:56.05 | jm_ | fireba11: it is nice, especially easy to add your own graphs |
| 12:56.08 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, set it on an reboot |
| 12:56.27 | dominicano | dvm1981_lpt, dvm1981 ok i gonna try |
| 12:56.35 | luite | is it possible to use the debian installer partition program outside of the installer, for example from a running knoppix live cd? |
| 12:56.44 | rvalles | what package is "dig" in? |
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| 12:56.54 | jm_ | heh can't say /msg dpkg search |
| 12:57.07 | jetscreamer | /msg apt search |
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| 12:57.21 | streuner | dpkg, wake up |
| 12:57.28 | streuner | apt? |
| 12:57.29 | dvm1981_lpt | !debian |
| 12:57.32 | rvalles | told both |
| 12:57.34 | jetscreamer | ~lart streuner |
| 12:57.35 | rvalles | neither gave answer |
| 12:57.38 | tralala | ~ping |
| 12:57.39 | apt | pong |
| 12:57.40 | streuner | hm, apt works |
| 12:57.53 | jm_ | rvalles: so do it on your system |
| 12:58.08 | streuner | toad_: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg |
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| 12:58.30 | toad_ | paste.debian.net doesn't work with links |
| 12:58.34 | toad_ | i have no idea why not |
| 12:58.35 | fireba11 | jm_ is the debian package set up to do graphs out of the box ? i see the node but no content there .. *searching config files* |
| 12:58.38 | toad_ | i will paste to #flood |
| 12:58.44 | jm_ | fireba11: yes |
| 12:58.50 | rvalles | jm_: cannot search for a file... |
| 12:58.54 | jm_ | rvalles: yes you can |
| 12:59.13 | llama31 | anyone know of a good GUI text editor with ocaml syntax highlighting? |
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| 12:59.22 | weissi | toad_: I just tried it on my machine, it works as they say on backports.org (sure you have at least 2 entries in /etc/apt/preferences ? ) |
| 12:59.26 | rvalles | jm_: no, I cannot; I don't have dig, and I don't know which package it is in either |
| 12:59.27 | dvm1981_lpt | llama31, vi ?? |
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| 12:59.47 | jm_ | rvalles: maybe you can't, but some of us can... -- apt-cache show apt-file |
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| 13:00.14 | valdyn | codders: i did file that bugreport.. |
| 13:00.18 | DarkA^ | Hello... Is XandrOS Desktop based on debian? |
| 13:00.20 | jm_ | fireba11: check which plugins it installed in /etc/munin/plugins |
| 13:00.33 | toad_ | weissi: i'd like to be able to do apt-get upgrade and it not upgrade all my packages to the backports versions |
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| 13:00.43 | rvalles | jm_: getting that now, thanks. |
| 13:00.46 | toad_ | weissi: i have just the one entry in preferences |
| 13:00.53 | weissi | toad_: it works like that for me |
| 13:00.54 | toad_ | weissi: but apt-cache policy looks okay |
| 13:01.08 | weissi | toad_: please paste your prefs in #flood |
| 13:01.13 | streuner | toad_: show us apt-cache policy xlibs |
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| 13:01.31 | streuner | weissi: he did, its looks ok to me |
| 13:01.37 | valdyn | DarkA^: what does xandros tell about that? |
| 13:01.42 | fireba11 | jm_ there are about 20 plugins |
| 13:02.04 | weissi | streuner: sorry, ok, it looks fine |
| 13:02.09 | DarkA^ | [valdyn] how I do to know that? |
| 13:02.10 | weissi | toad_: looks fine ?!? |
| 13:02.20 | jetscreamer | DarkA^: try on distrowatch.org or #xandros |
| 13:02.20 | weissi | toad_: for me it works like that! |
| 13:02.44 | fireba11 | jm_ do i need to enable those somewhere ? |
| 13:02.56 | jetscreamer | perhaps the pinning sucks |
| 13:02.58 | llama31 | dvm1981_lpt: GUI text editor, im not so keen on vi (i can use it but cbf learning searching and stuff) |
| 13:03.15 | toad_ | wtf? |
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| 13:03.23 | valdyn | llama31: vim-gnome, vim-gtk |
| 13:03.24 | toad_ | some of the X stuff is still x.org! |
| 13:03.26 | toad_ | from last time! |
| 13:03.32 | dvm1981_lpt | llama31, vi is one of the best tool i never seen, or i forget to talk about Debian ? |
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| 13:03.48 | tarzeau | llama31: emacs? |
| 13:03.49 | jm_ | fireba11: no, you're all set and it should make graphs for them after 5 minutes when the cron job runs |
| 13:03.56 | toad_ | that explains it... |
| 13:03.56 | DarkA^ | [valdyn] how I do to know if Xandros is Based on Debian? |
| 13:03.58 | toad_ | i'm okay then |
| 13:04.05 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 13:04.22 | valdyn | DarkA^: is them, ask the vendor |
| 13:04.23 | vimp | Is it bad when a partition does not end on a cylinder boundary? |
| 13:04.30 | dvm1981_lpt | DarkA^, ask to Xandros |
| 13:04.31 | jm_ | vimp: not usually no |
| 13:04.33 | llama31 | dvm1981_lpt: i hate debian, just the only distro that works on my fault-ridden machine :) |
| 13:04.47 | k31th | afternoon all |
| 13:04.50 | valdyn | DarkA^: no one basing anything on debian has to coordinate that with debian |
| 13:04.53 | dvm1981_lpt | llama31, you have not open you're eyes man |
| 13:05.05 | dvm1981_lpt | k31th, hi |
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| 13:05.21 | fireba11 | jm_ now i'm confused .. its running for 20 minutes now ... nothing in the logs that looks like an error, it#s displaying domain and node but no images |
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| 13:05.44 | fireba11 | jm_ ah, here we go ... took a while |
| 13:05.46 | jm_ | fireba11: how are you checking it? |
| 13:06.00 | llama31 | dvm1981_lpt: i open my eyes, then yell "damnit!" and close them again each time apt shits itself |
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| 13:06.14 | DarkA^ | well... I have a problem installing some programs... they say that I gaven GLib.. but I installed it without problems |
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| 13:06.24 | dvm1981 | llama31: you are really wrong man |
| 13:06.30 | streuner | toad_: if you running apt-get upgrade, does apt want install xlibs from backports too? |
| 13:06.34 | fireba11 | jm_ browser and was looking at /var/www/munin/ for files |
| 13:07.06 | toad_ | streuner /me just installed xserver-xorg, it threw in xlibs etc |
| 13:07.22 | toad_ | streuner the problem was that i still had some old backported xorg stuff from last time |
| 13:07.26 | toad_ | that's what it wanted to upgrade |
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| 13:08.10 | llama31 | dvm1981: to be honest ive never used real debian, only spinoffs - ubuntu, demudi, etc. so im sure apt on real debian systems is more stable |
| 13:08.21 | toad_ | llama31 it is |
| 13:08.28 | toad_ | llama31 debian sarge is *very* good |
| 13:08.32 | Ani-_ | Can anyone tell me (or point me to a doc that explains it) how I can see if the kernel (2.6.8) is compiled with Shared memory? (What I currently tried: create a program which uses some memory and then fork. top outputed only a small number in the shared column of both processes. So I'm guessing it is not enabled) |
| 13:08.33 | dvm1981 | llama31: Debian in its whole man |
| 13:08.54 | jm_ | Ani-_: check its config file, but I'm sure it is |
| 13:08.55 | toad_ | Ani-_ umm copy on write has been in linux since about 1.0 |
| 13:08.57 | valdyn | Ani-_: debian kernels have support for /dev/shm |
| 13:09.14 | valdyn | Ani-_: but 'shared memory' support could be any other mechanism |
| 13:09.19 | jm_ | Ani-_: shared memory support has got nothing to do with that, it's about IPC |
| 13:09.24 | streuner | toad_: so the problem is fixed now? |
| 13:09.31 | toad_ | streuner i think so |
| 13:09.41 | toad_ | if i ever want to remove it i'll have to be a bit more careful |
| 13:09.54 | mansu | hi all |
| 13:09.56 | toad_ | last time i was on x.org it seemed more stable than it is now though |
| 13:09.59 | k31th | i have a real problem here, i cant get Debian to boot of cd to install its boots other distros fine of the same type media |
| 13:10.04 | k31th | anyone got any ideals |
| 13:10.05 | mansu | i am running a vnc session (using tight vnc), i am able to see the konsole, but i am unable to run any applications that open an window.. when i run glxgears, i get the following error: Xlib extension glx missing on display ":1:0" |
| 13:10.05 | jm_ | tmpfs is used with recent kernels for that |
| 13:10.14 | mansu | what am i missing here? |
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| 13:10.28 | toad_ | , |
| 13:10.30 | jm_ | mansu: it tells you |
| 13:10.48 | rod | mansu, does opengl work on that machine? |
| 13:10.50 | jetscreamer | run md5sum on the cd you burned k31th |
| 13:10.53 | toad_ | mansu try something that doesn't use gl |
| 13:10.58 | valdyn | Ani-_: top is not useful to display allocated virtual memory at all |
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| 13:11.21 | toad_ | streuner et al thanks for all your help |
| 13:11.22 | DarkA^ | well... I have a problem installing some programs... they say that I gaven GLib.. but I installed it without problems |
| 13:11.26 | mansu | rod: it does work when i am using it locally, but when i invoke it from an vnc session it doesn't |
| 13:11.32 | streuner | toad_: np |
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| 13:11.45 | weissi | toad_: how did you resolve the prob (my conn. was cut) |
| 13:11.46 | liable | hehe, thunderbird keeps beeping at me, but i cant find any mail.. |
| 13:11.49 | jm_ | DarkA^: you'll need to be a lot more specific |
| 13:12.12 | DarkA^ | jim_ if I paste the error.. u will kick me beacuse Flooding |
| 13:12.28 | weissi | DarkA^: #flood |
| 13:12.33 | mansu | toad_: the kde apps work perfectly, its just the opengl apps that are not working rod |
| 13:12.45 | Ani-_ | jm: good idea... the only problem right now is that I can't seem to find it. (And while looking for it I noticed some other things)... I guess I need to talk to the person that actually installed the system. (I wanted to do that after confirming it) |
| 13:12.51 | jm_ | Ani-_: ls /boot |
| 13:12.59 | Ani-_ | jm: /boot is empty. |
| 13:13.22 | dvm1981_lpt | !test |
| 13:13.32 | mansu | rod: how can i fix it? |
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| 13:13.55 | jm_ | Ani-_: wtf |
| 13:13.58 | vimp | What should be the last two numbers in fstab for vfat partitions? 0 0 ? |
| 13:14.01 | toad_ | weissi i had had x.org before |
| 13:14.01 | mad_bull | hi there has anyone any expereince with vlans on debian? |
| 13:14.12 | toad_ | weissi apparently i hadn't gotten rid of it properly |
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| 13:14.16 | mansu | vimp: yes |
| 13:14.18 | Skrot | The only way I can directly control the fan of my laptop is if there something in /proc/acpi/fan, right? |
| 13:14.21 | toad_ | and some packages were still x.org |
| 13:14.34 | toad_ | which meant apt-get dist-upgrade wanted to upgrade them to the latest x.org versions |
| 13:14.35 | djp_ | i have run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 command and reconfigured x. i then press ctrl-alt backspace to restart xfree86. normally i would be returned to my gdm. however it now seems that i always return to login prompt. i i login this way and then type startx, when i then logout/restart the machine i get a lot of keyboard error messages. why does ctrl-alt backspace not return me to the gdm as before? the only difference |
| 13:14.35 | djp_ | i have is that my mouse has been changed to a ps2 one from a usb one... |
| 13:14.37 | weissi | toad_: hmm, ok, *confused* ;-) |
| 13:14.48 | valdyn | Skrot: depends on your laptop |
| 13:14.49 | dvm1981_lpt | my touchpad is verry wrong; i cant rember where i must to look; dpkg sleeps |
| 13:14.57 | Skrot | valdyn: Okay. |
| 13:15.05 | mansu | jm_: can you be more specific about how i can fix it? |
| 13:15.21 | Skrot | valdyn: How do I find out? It's an Acer Travelmate. I've looked at all the linux on laptop pages about it :> |
| 13:15.24 | toad_ | weissi it is pretty confusing |
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| 13:15.50 | streuner | toad_: heh, i thought you want to install xorg, now you wanna get rid of it? |
| 13:16.09 | rvalles | jm_: how do I search for dig without "digest" stuff popping up? |
| 13:16.24 | jm_ | mansu: you can't, it doesn't work with VNC |
| 13:16.29 | k31th | i cant seems to get debian to boot on this dell SC1425 |
| 13:16.35 | k31th | any ideals ? |
| 13:16.43 | rvalles | k31th: ideals? |
| 13:16.46 | jm_ | rvalles: use -x and supply appriprate regex |
| 13:16.48 | k31th | can i boot knoppiz and then start the install ? |
| 13:16.53 | weissi | k31th: floppies? |
| 13:16.54 | toad_ | streuner it explains why apt-get dist-upgrade wanted to upgrade stuff even though i hadn't told it to |
| 13:16.56 | k31th | knoppix |
| 13:16.57 | rvalles | k31th: yeah... for example, software should be free :) |
| 13:17.07 | valdyn | Skrot: i dont know how fans are supported on acer notebooks, if google doesnt know and http://www.linux-laptops.org/ doesnt know either, i wouldnt know where to look |
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| 13:17.09 | rvalles | jm_: and apropiate regex would be? :/ |
| 13:17.09 | liable | k31th: you booting with the 2.6 option? |
| 13:17.11 | k31th | weissi: no floppy drive |
| 13:17.11 | Ani-_ | jm: exactly what I was thinking. My |
| 13:17.13 | tralala | k31th: not if you want to have debian |
| 13:17.17 | darkhmet | hi |
| 13:17.22 | Skrot | valdyn: That makes two of us ;) |
| 13:17.24 | k31th | liable: its not getting that far |
| 13:17.25 | mansu | jm_: i thought ot was a permissions issue... |
| 13:17.27 | dvm1981_lpt | k31th, you need a boot cheat code or so not ? |
| 13:17.28 | weissi | k31th: and the cd boot in other computers? |
| 13:17.30 | mansu | is it not? |
| 13:17.31 | k31th | it wont even load the cd |
| 13:17.32 | darkhmet | someone cant help me with this problem |
| 13:17.46 | k31th | weissi: works fine in others |
| 13:18.01 | darkhmet | when i have been run apt-get upgrade |
| 13:18.07 | tralala | k31th: does it boot any other cds? knoppix? |
| 13:18.09 | darkhmet | this warning appears! |
| 13:18.14 | jm_ | mansu: no, it's because GLX extension is not present |
| 13:18.16 | k31th | tralala: yes |
| 13:18.19 | djp_ | is the command /etc/init.d/gdm restart the same as ctrl-alt backspace? |
| 13:18.20 | weissi | k31th: take another CDR and it will work, I've had a similar problem on my notebook |
| 13:18.21 | darkhmet | W: GPG error: http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu testing Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory |
| 13:18.24 | darkhmet | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory |
| 13:18.43 | jm_ | rvalles: well assuming it uses proper regex lib it would be dig$, but I have no clue why it's not working - limit it with bin/dig |
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| 13:18.50 | streuner | darkhmet: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 13:18.54 | k31th | weissi: iv tried tonnes of cdrs |
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| 13:18.59 | liable | darkhmet: yuk, output from dpkg -l apt is? |
| 13:19.00 | k31th | different iso |
| 13:19.03 | k31th | etc every thing |
| 13:19.07 | k31th | i dl with bt |
| 13:19.14 | k31th | and i tried off the mirror |
| 13:19.16 | k31th | nothing |
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| 13:19.22 | liable | !enter |
| 13:19.22 | darkhmet | ii libc6 2.3.5-8 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
| 13:19.25 | darkhmet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:19.42 | weissi | k31th: cdrs of another brand? |
| 13:19.53 | streuner | darkhmet: security.debian.org isn't testing... |
| 13:20.04 | k31th | weissi: yes |
| 13:20.05 | darkhmet | no |
| 13:20.07 | darkhmet | streuner: no |
| 13:20.08 | k31th | 5 diff brands |
| 13:20.08 | streuner | darkhmet: just comment that line in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:20.19 | k31th | weissi: inc known working brands with this drive |
| 13:20.24 | darkhmet | wich line? |
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| 13:20.34 | darkhmet | securiti.debian... |
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| 13:20.45 | weissi | k31th: hmm, ?!??. boot from usb/netboot ? |
| 13:20.47 | darkhmet | security.debian???* |
| 13:20.51 | streuner | darkhmet: yes |
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| 13:20.59 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, solved ? |
| 13:21.01 | k31th | weissi: dont think i can boot from usb |
| 13:21.04 | dominicano | dvm1981, still here? |
| 13:21.08 | k31th | dont know any thing about net booting |
| 13:21.18 | dominicano | dvm1981, yes, solved, thanks for your advices |
| 13:21.18 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, yes |
| 13:21.39 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, So now it's power off in the good way ? |
| 13:21.53 | dominicano | dvm1981, when did you start with linux? |
| 13:22.00 | toad_ | why is udevd using 25%+ CPU? |
| 13:22.06 | toad_ | it does this sometimes... |
| 13:22.08 | darkhmet | streuner: mmm watch it |
| 13:22.09 | darkhmet | Reading package lists... Done |
| 13:22.09 | darkhmet | W: GPG error: http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu testing Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory |
| 13:22.13 | darkhmet | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 13:22.17 | dominicano | dvm1981,yes it poweroff at the easy way |
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| 13:22.25 | streuner | darkhmet: hm, /topic |
| 13:22.31 | streuner | apt, 2006 key |
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| 13:22.33 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, wait 5 mins please, |
| 13:22.54 | weissi | k31th: for netboot you need: 1 target computer, 1 server. and server has to have installed tftp/dhcpd |
| 13:23.01 | dominicano | dvm1981,ok |
| 13:23.02 | vimp | When I do 'print' in 'parted' (program), it prints the following line, among others: 5 26121.344 27321.481 logical linux-swap. My question is what SIZE is that /dev/hda5 ? |
| 13:23.13 | streuner | darkhmet: check out debian-user ML (mailing-list) |
| 13:23.23 | darkhmet | ok |
| 13:23.25 | darkhmet | thanx |
| 13:23.35 | streuner | darkhmet: look for '2006 key' or such |
| 13:23.49 | streuner | darkhmet: www.debian.org archives ML mailing-lists |
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| 13:25.14 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I have begin with Linux the first time over 3 years or so, or a bit more, cant remember, but i have learn really many tings the last time, at the begin i was not really happy with it |
| 13:25.48 | DarkArtanis | Hello Again... Sorry for get disconnected... |
| 13:25.50 | dvm1981 | dominicano: so i had leave it for a while and then im reback again, and the second time i not loose it ;-) |
| 13:26.00 | toad_ | hmmm |
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| 13:26.20 | xoz | vimp: fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 13:26.27 | toad_ | is it plausible that rsync would use 40% of a 2ghz cpu on 10M/384k broadband... strange... |
| 13:26.38 | dominicano | dvm1981,ok, i think you are in a high lever... it is my opinion |
| 13:26.41 | toad_ | i mean it's only decompressing gzip, and maybe listing some files... |
| 13:26.59 | toad_ | whatever |
| 13:27.00 | jm_ | toad_: transferring over ssh? |
| 13:27.05 | toad_ | jm_: yes |
| 13:27.14 | jm_ | toad_: so count in the ssh encryption/decryption |
| 13:27.15 | toad_ | jm_: but crypto's pretty fast on modern chips |
| 13:27.19 | mansu | jm_: where is the glx extension not present.. on the vnc server? |
| 13:27.24 | toad_ | i suppose |
| 13:27.27 | jm_ | mansu: yes |
| 13:27.31 | toad_ | oh well |
| 13:27.39 | mansu | jm_: is there a way to add the extension? |
| 13:27.49 | toad_ | thanks folks |
| 13:28.07 | streuner | apt, 2006 key is <reply> 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. installing this package may not be auto-verifiable; OR! you can install the key as follow, explicitly trusting the keyserver with no verification -- gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
| 13:28.13 | apt | okay, streuner |
| 13:28.13 | jm_ | mansu: well it won't work if you connect with vncclient, it only works with a plain X connection |
| 13:28.14 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, i worked in the IT section |
| 13:28.23 | streuner | darkhmet: ^^^ |
| 13:28.29 | dominicano | dvm1981,really? |
| 13:28.37 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, now i look for a job; not evident without a diplom |
| 13:28.38 | dominicano | dvm1981,still working there? |
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| 13:28.53 | dominicano | dvm1981,ahh, look in your search |
| 13:28.57 | mansu | jm_: then is there a way i can record the running of an opengl based game on linux? |
| 13:28.58 | dominicano | dvm1981,ahh, goodlook in your search |
| 13:29.16 | fireba11 | jm_ not bad ... adding munin for 6 hosts in 30 minutes .. ^^ now i just have to throw out stats i don't need and add a few new ones :-) |
| 13:29.45 | vimp | xoz: I still don't know how big a block is on that swap partition; fdisk tells me it's 1228941 blocks |
| 13:29.45 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, yes but i have not an attestation that i have been on the school for x years; i can not explain it good |
| 13:29.51 | darkhmet | streuner: yes? |
| 13:30.02 | streuner | darkhmet: /msg apt 2006 key |
| 13:30.12 | dominicano | dvm1981,i undestand you |
| 13:30.22 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, i have leave the shool to quick |
| 13:30.23 | xoz | vimp: use cfdisk |
| 13:30.24 | dominicano | dvm1981,you must go for the diplom |
| 13:30.35 | dominicano | dvm1981,or a certification |
| 13:30.36 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, i have try it; but fail in it |
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| 13:31.01 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, or i must try it in the IT section; but verrry dificult to obtain |
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| 13:31.17 | k31th | i dont belive this shit, its not bootig it even with a different cdrom |
| 13:31.21 | dominicano | dvm1981, i uderstand u |
| 13:31.50 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, So im in a bad situation :-( |
| 13:31.53 | vimp | xoz: cfdisk doesn't work for some reason, even though fdisk and parted don't complain. Here's the error : FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 7: enlarged logical partitions overlap |
| 13:32.01 | dominicano | dvm1981, i really sorry |
| 13:32.06 | jm_ | mansu: good question, let me try it quickly |
| 13:32.16 | liable | k31th: you only have windows on that box? |
| 13:32.18 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, no man; it's live; it can be more ;; |
| 13:32.31 | mansu | jm_: ok...i will wait for your reply |
| 13:32.32 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, how to say it; its not the end of my live; |
| 13:32.42 | k31th | liable: i have nothing on it its a 1U server |
| 13:32.46 | k31th | trying to install deb |
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| 13:32.48 | xoz | vimp: repartition then |
| 13:32.51 | Guerin | it's not the end of the world |
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| 13:32.58 | Garp | Hi. |
| 13:33.02 | jm_ | mansu: xvidcap seems to have captured it for me |
| 13:33.09 | dominicano | dvm1981, yes, you are right... |
| 13:33.19 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, it can be go more wrong; so i happy that its not to wrong |
| 13:33.33 | vimp | xoz: repartition ?! why ?!? |
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| 13:33.55 | mansu | jm_: is that another app? |
| 13:34.06 | Garp | Question: Are there ways to run apt-get as non-root? To manage packages installed in some user home directory ? Thanks. |
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| 13:34.25 | jm_ | mansu: it's a capture tool |
| 13:34.29 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, so if you are on the shool; don't leave it before you obtain you attestation |
| 13:34.30 | dominicano | dvm1981, but i wish you goodlook |
| 13:34.31 | Guerin | Garp: not without chroot. |
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| 13:34.44 | xoz | vimp: if there is discrepancy with the partition, better to repartition. |
| 13:34.44 | Garp | Guerin: and chroot requers root privileges, right ? |
| 13:34.44 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, goodluck?? |
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| 13:34.58 | Guerin | Garp: packages installed in homedirs should be few enough that you need neither a management tool nor chroot |
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| 13:35.02 | dominicano | dvm1981, yeah, i wrote it bad |
| 13:35.14 | Guerin | Garp: not necessarily, but you do not want to run a local chroot for each user |
| 13:35.15 | Garp | Guerin: that's your idea, but not what I need. |
| 13:35.22 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, but i understand you; that's the importantest |
| 13:35.25 | POVaddct | is there already a native driver for the marvell w8300? |
| 13:35.26 | dominicano | dvm1981, i only wanna study theater |
| 13:35.36 | liable | k31th: didnt you google? http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers?focusedCommentId=7746 |
| 13:35.43 | Garp | Guerin: chroot requieres root privilege at some point, that's the point... Cant do it as user :( |
| 13:35.48 | Guerin | Garp: well, my advice to you if you want to run a bunch of shit in home is "learn how to use slackware" |
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| 13:35.50 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, do what you like to do :-) |
| 13:35.59 | Garp | Guerin: that's not my question. |
| 13:36.10 | Guerin | Garp: I answered your question already. |
| 13:36.29 | dominicano | dvm1981, do you use a 32 color depth in you X config? |
| 13:36.30 | Garp | Guerin: right. thanks for this. |
| 13:36.41 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, no a 24 no more |
| 13:36.42 | dominicano | dvm1981, have you ever use it? |
| 13:36.46 | vimp | xoz: fdisk -l does not show any overlaps; I'm not going to throw out my install just to make some (probably buggy) program happy |
| 13:36.54 | dominicano | dvm1981, why just 24? |
| 13:37.00 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, that not really exist i think |
| 13:37.16 | dominicano | dvm1981, 32 do not really exist? |
| 13:37.17 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, the 32bits depth |
| 13:37.24 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, yes |
| 13:37.31 | Garp | Guerin: on that point rpm does better: it allow local rpm database under any arbitrary directory, allowing non root deployment of rpms. I'll use this... |
| 13:37.38 | xoz | vimp: so, what's really the point of knowing the blocks? |
| 13:37.46 | jm_ | dpkg also allows for that ... |
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| 13:37.57 | xoz | vimp: you can mount the drive and issue df -h |
| 13:37.59 | vimp | I want to know how big that swap parition is |
| 13:38.06 | samo_ | hi everybdody, i've been using debian on a desktop for a couple of weeks now and i've installed several things using apt-get. Sometimes i get stuck in dependancies and i learnt to do apt-get install -f. It usually gets the situation fixed but i ve not understood what it actually does, can anyone tell me a bit more about how apt-get works ? |
| 13:38.08 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, its more than 65 miljons of color, if you go more, you eyes not see it i think |
| 13:38.09 | xoz | vimp: ah |
| 13:38.09 | vimp | xoz: it's swap |
| 13:38.20 | dvm1981_lpt | correct ?? |
| 13:38.38 | dominicano | dvm1981, i wanna all the colors, a billion if this is posible |
| 13:38.49 | xoz | vimp: in parted, it shows the size when you use p |
| 13:39.02 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, you're monitor; not forget it, a 15" no do more i think |
| 13:39.06 | mansu | jm_: r u running stable or unstable? |
| 13:39.19 | dominicano | dvm1981, I just kidding man |
| 13:39.27 | valdyn | dominicano: the difference between two adjacent colors in 24 bit color depths is already not visible for humans |
| 13:39.28 | jm_ | mansu: Sarge |
| 13:40.00 | Guerin | Garp: well, you can use dpkg with --root and similar options - but i think you still need root to do it. |
| 13:40.03 | dominicano | dvm1981, kidding about all the colors |
| 13:40.04 | dvm1981_lpt | valdyn, thx for the additional info |
| 13:40.11 | xoz | vimp: your swap is around 1G |
| 13:40.12 | jetscreamer | what is lpt |
| 13:40.19 | vimp | xoz: it shows "26121.344 27321.481" - I don't know what that means |
| 13:40.24 | Guerin | Garp: and you can pass --root to dpkg through apt-get or aptitude |
| 13:40.25 | dvm1981_lpt | laptop ?? |
| 13:40.30 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 13:40.33 | dominicano | dvm1981, but i asked you about 32 depths, just for curiosity |
| 13:40.33 | Garp | Guerin: unfortunate :(. But I'll first work on some non debian system using rpm directy then. That will do. |
| 13:40.35 | dvm1981_lpt | jetscreamer, yes |
| 13:40.36 | jetscreamer | i was hinking printer |
| 13:40.48 | jetscreamer | as in dvm_lpt |
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| 13:40.59 | xoz | vimp: vimp subtract |
| 13:41.00 | dvm1981_lpt | jetscreamer, i not whant to do like others ;-) |
| 13:41.01 | Garp | Guerin: I'll see |
| 13:41.42 | mansu | jm_: does the xvidcap package run on sid?there is no package for sid |
| 13:41.42 | dvm1981_lpt | jetscreamer, doing a litte bit confussions ... |
| 13:41.43 | xoz | vimp: in MB which is 1000 MB |
| 13:41.43 | jm_ | mansu: I have built it from source, Marillat's repository might have it packaged |
| 13:41.48 | vimp | xoz: so my swap is 1200.137 MB ? |
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| 13:42.04 | dvm1981_lpt | vimp, so many ? |
| 13:42.04 | valdyn | dominicano: 32 bit framebuffers are often use for purely technical reasons to represent a 24 bit color depth |
| 13:42.05 | jm_ | not true, I also use it from his repository, I used to have it built from source |
| 13:42.07 | xoz | vimp: yep |
| 13:42.13 | tziku` | hello, i have dhttp installed and yesterday i restart "dhttpd" proces because are duplicate (20) in list. and naw same problem is no 1 dhttpd proc is 20-30 process. |
| 13:42.18 | Garp | Guerin: I belivbe that --root option only tells where to install the pkg, not to use a different tree. |
| 13:42.20 | tziku` | can somebody help me ? |
| 13:42.20 | vimp | xoz: I don't remember creating a swap parition that big - I only have 512 RAM |
| 13:42.22 | xoz | vimp: around 1G |
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| 13:43.02 | mansu | jm_: Marillat doesnt have it.. |
| 13:43.05 | dominicano | valdyn, ok, i get it |
| 13:43.25 | Guerin | Garp: there are other options as well |
| 13:43.28 | tziku` | :~# /etc/init.d/dhttpd restart |
| 13:43.28 | tziku` | Stopped /usr/bin/dhttpd (pid 31346 11848 11864 11870 11873 11894 11943 11948 11955 11969 12005 12008 12014 12144 12234 12235 12533 12549 12557 12569 12578 12587 12612 12619 12628 12664 12671 12683 12713 12735 12742 12748 12766 12816 12848 12856 12985 12986 13016 13051 13201 13237 13278 13823 13854). |
| 13:43.28 | tziku` | Starting /usr/bin/dhttpd... |
| 13:43.37 | tziku` | look are started more than onece... |
| 13:43.41 | tziku` | help ? |
| 13:43.50 | Guerin | Garp: --admindir, --instdir |
| 13:43.53 | valdyn | tziku`: what's wrong with that? |
| 13:43.55 | Guerin | Garp: read the help |
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| 13:44.07 | tziku` | valdyn my computer memmory :( |
| 13:44.23 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, you're monitor; hi must support it, and he have also some troubles with the refresh rate; i think not that you can receive more power of you monitor |
| 13:44.43 | valdyn | tziku`: maybe you can set a maximum of spawned processes in your httpd's configuration |
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| 13:45.17 | tziku` | valdyn and if i set to 1 what is defferenc betwen 20 or...how is there ? |
| 13:45.17 | valdyn | tziku`: but you probably _need_ one process per concurrent connection anyway |
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| 13:45.26 | tziku` | oh... |
| 13:45.30 | Garp | Guerin: thanks. I'll have a look. |
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| 13:45.44 | jm_ | mansu: he does |
| 13:46.02 | samo_ | hi all, i tried to install debian on a laptop with a ATI X700 card, i followed the intructions given here to install the driver : http://jeriko.l-tech.org/2005/09/04/ati-treiber-unter-debian-sarge-installieren/ . I have the following mesage when trying to build the driver : kernel includes at /usr/src/linux/include not found or incomplete. file : /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h ,... |
| 13:46.04 | samo_ | ...can anyone help ? thank you |
| 13:46.30 | tziku` | thx valdyn |
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| 13:47.05 | dvm1981_lpt | samo_, you have installed the source of the kernel ? |
| 13:47.09 | Guerin | samo_: install kernel-headers-your-exact-version and make a symbolic link from them to /usr/src/linux |
| 13:47.11 | dominicano | dvm1981, ok, i do not gonna touch it |
| 13:47.15 | Guerin | not the source |
| 13:47.18 | Guerin | just the headers |
| 13:47.29 | fireba11 | samo_: apt-get install kernel-headers |
| 13:47.30 | mansu | jm_: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main ,should i add anything more to this in my apt-sources list? |
| 13:47.34 | samo_ | how can i know the kerne |
| 13:47.42 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, you can try with it, but you not see any change if hi support it; if |
| 13:47.45 | samo_ | i did apt-get install kernel-header-2.6-386 |
| 13:48.01 | samo_ | but i m not even sure the kernel is 2.6, how can i know for sure ? |
| 13:48.09 | jm_ | mansu: maybe it's not in Packages file for some reason, but it is in pool still |
| 13:48.12 | Garp | samo_: uname |
| 13:48.26 | valdyn | samo_: this howto is stupid and wrong |
| 13:48.45 | valdyn | samo_: ( though it might work for some its still fucked ) |
| 13:48.49 | mansu | jm_: so am i better of getting the deb from the pool or shud i build it from the src? |
| 13:49.10 | samo_ | ok, valdyn, do you know what i should do to make it work for me ? |
| 13:49.12 | valdyn | samo_: read: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
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| 13:49.13 | weissi | samo_: try apt-get install kernel-source-2.6-386 |
| 13:49.15 | jm_ | mansu: up to you really |
| 13:49.27 | jetscreamer | try apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` |
| 13:49.28 | samo_ | thanks valdyn i ll look over there |
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| 13:49.33 | valdyn | samo_: and get rid of whatever files you installed following that howto |
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| 13:49.37 | mansu | jm_: thx |
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| 13:49.44 | samo_ | ok will do |
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| 13:50.02 | valdyn | samo_: any howto recommending --force-overwrite is bad =/ |
| 13:50.15 | dominicano | dvm1981, of course it support it, but i don't gonna try |
| 13:50.24 | samo_ | ok, by the way am i going to be able to remove everything i did following the how to now ? |
| 13:50.27 | valdyn | samo_: you might have to reinstall some X packages sooner or later, not sure which |
| 13:50.35 | dominicano | dvm1981, i gotta go to the dentist, se you later, thanks 4 all |
| 13:50.37 | samo_ | ah ok |
| 13:50.38 | valdyn | samo_: with apt-get remove |
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| 13:50.55 | samo_ | ok |
| 13:51.02 | dvm1981_lpt | dominicano, some times it's best not to test to far or you risk to broke it |
| 13:51.15 | llama31 | anyone know of a fast, general purpose OO language other than C++, objc and ocaml? |
| 13:51.36 | k31th | This dell box just wont boot debian. dunno wat it is |
| 13:51.42 | valdyn | samo_: read flavios instructions carefully too, its not that foolproof |
| 13:51.44 | kspath | ruby? |
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| 13:51.48 | dvm1981_lpt | llama31, python ? |
| 13:51.50 | azeem | llama31: java, c# I guess |
| 13:51.53 | itchb | BAN ME |
| 13:51.55 | itchb | NOW |
| 13:51.58 | azeem | itchb: why? |
| 13:51.59 | jetscreamer | is it a dell laptop? |
| 13:52.10 | itchb | OR SOMETHING AWFUL WILL HAPPEN |
| 13:52.10 | jm_ | k31th: there's a CD for Debian on Dells |
| 13:52.14 | itchb | BAN ME |
| 13:52.20 | k31th | jm_: there is ? |
| 13:52.21 | samo_ | yea so he says, hope i can make it work, |
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| 13:52.23 | jetscreamer | just ban his ip |
| 13:52.24 | jm_ | k31th: yes |
| 13:52.25 | itchb | FUCK |
| 13:52.30 | itchb | FUCK |
| 13:52.32 | itchb | BAN ME |
| 13:52.32 | jetscreamer | oh and hurry |
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| 13:52.44 | jetscreamer | who's nick/ip is that usually itchb |
| 13:52.48 | samo_ | by the way i had tried running knopix on this laptop before installing debian and it worked fine, i didnt think i d have probs with debian after that |
| 13:52.52 | jm_ | k31th: if you mean Dell servers that is |
| 13:53.03 | itchb | BAN ME |
| 13:53.10 | k31th | jm_: yes SC1425 1U wont boot debian |
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| 13:53.14 | kspath | There are many morons being spawned in the last few decades. Is this a trend or is it just that I am finally noticing. |
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| 13:53.21 | valdyn | samo_: knoppix is easier to setup if you need to use non-free drivers |
| 13:53.23 | k31th | jm_: as in it wont load the cd |
| 13:53.29 | dvm1981_lpt | azeem, can you restart dpkg ? |
| 13:53.33 | liable | meh, my auto_ignore didnt work.. |
| 13:53.34 | azeem | dvm1981_lpt: no |
| 13:53.41 | jm_ | k31th: I only tried it on old Poweredge 1300 - you can always use SBM to boot from a CD |
| 13:53.49 | dvm1981_lpt | !test |
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| 13:53.52 | jetscreamer | dvm1981_lpt: leave dpkg alone he needs his rest |
| 13:54.01 | jetscreamer | he's tired and hungover |
| 13:54.06 | dvm1981_lpt | jetscreamer, why ? |
| 13:54.09 | jetscreamer | he had drinks after work |
| 13:54.16 | dvm1981_lpt | jetscreamer, lol |
| 13:54.17 | k31th | jm_: wats sbm ? |
| 13:54.18 | nvz | dvm1981_lpt: use another bot instead |
| 13:54.22 | jm_ | k31th: apt-cache show sbm |
| 13:54.40 | k31th | jm_: i dont have an OS on that server yet... |
| 13:54.46 | jm_ | k31th: you don't need it either |
| 13:54.48 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 13:54.50 | dvm1981_lpt | ~test |
| 13:54.52 | apt | Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! |
| 13:54.59 | k31th | i have debian running at home |
| 13:55.01 | Garp | (have to go) |
| 13:55.04 | Garp | bebye |
| 13:55.07 | dvm1981_lpt | okay |
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| 13:55.09 | k31th | and on this other box here but cdrom on it |
| 13:55.09 | k31th | lol |
| 13:55.19 | k31th | well not a drw drive any way |
| 13:55.23 | jetscreamer | s/g/g\ where you are/ |
| 13:55.45 | jetscreamer | that wouldn't work would it |
| 13:55.46 | mansu | jm_: the xvidcap depends on libavcodec1.. which is not there in the pool... any idea why this happens? |
| 13:55.52 | k31th | this is painfull lol |
| 13:55.54 | kspath | apt: There is a test and you are still wearing your night clothes and/or naked. |
| 13:55.56 | apt | kspath: I think you lost me on that one |
| 13:55.56 | jetscreamer | :( /me's perl suks |
| 13:56.00 | k31th | all i wanna do is a boot a fgaggin iso |
| 13:56.07 | jm_ | mansu: it was there when I installed it ;) |
| 13:56.32 | mansu | jm_: hmm.. should be for sarge |
| 13:57.06 | dvm1981_lpt | kspath, you're a bot ? |
| 13:57.09 | jetscreamer | libavcodec is on marillat i 'think' |
| 13:57.44 | kspath | dvm1981_lpt: I am a bot? |
| 13:57.59 | k31th | jm_: i have install sbm on my home machine... wat i do now |
| 13:58.02 | dvm1981_lpt | kspath, are you a bot ? |
| 13:58.16 | kspath | dvm1981_lpt: Am I a bot? |
| 13:58.17 | jetscreamer | @kspath lart dvm |
| 13:58.31 | jm_ | k31th: you'll want it on a floppy so that you could use to boot whichever Debian CD you want on Dell |
| 13:58.46 | dvm1981_lpt | jetscreamer, what would it say ? |
| 13:59.00 | samo_ | valdyn, i' following this how to and i need to get the kernel-src package..apt-cache search kernel-src doenst bring any result, do you have an idea why ? |
| 13:59.08 | jetscreamer | that's up to kspath's codebase |
| 13:59.11 | k31th | jm_: no floppy drive |
| 13:59.12 | jetscreamer | ah him say dat |
| 13:59.15 | valdyn | samo_: are you not on debian/sarge ? |
| 13:59.21 | samo_ | yes i am |
| 13:59.30 | rvalles_ | I have a mtu problem. A debian box works as a router, a gentoo box, windows box, etc. use it as a default gateway. |
| 13:59.32 | valdyn | samo_: apt-cache search kernel-source |
| 13:59.35 | jetscreamer | he's a slow and simple bot, but sturdy |
| 13:59.46 | jm_ | k31th: heh |
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| 13:59.49 | rvalles_ | If I set 1492 in the gentoo client, it can see www.elmundo.es |
| 13:59.50 | dvm1981_lpt | jetscreamer, hhhmmm |
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| 13:59.55 | rvalles_ | if it's 1500, it cannot! |
| 14:00.02 | samo_ | ok works better that way, thanks |
| 14:00.08 | jetscreamer | (you've gathered by now that he is not a bot eh) |
| 14:00.10 | rvalles_ | so, there should be some way to solve this at the router instead of at the clients. |
| 14:00.13 | rvalles_ | how do I? |
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| 14:00.28 | k31th | jm_: great |
| 14:00.49 | k31th | can i start the installer if i boot say gentoo live cd |
| 14:00.57 | k31th | and plugin a usb cdrom |
| 14:00.58 | kspath | jetscreamer: I can not breath I am laughing so hard. Um, I am a bot. I will auto-respond to attempts at humour. |
| 14:01.00 | k31th | ? |
| 14:01.12 | jm_ | k31th: yes, but you'll have to use debootstrap method then |
| 14:01.36 | carbon60 | Morning all. |
| 14:01.45 | k31th | this is killing me |
| 14:01.48 | dvm1981_lpt | good afternoon mans |
| 14:01.49 | k31th | why wont it just boot |
| 14:01.51 | kspath | dvm1981_lpt: Have you met my cousin Eliza? |
| 14:01.57 | jm_ | did you check if it boots on other machines? |
| 14:01.58 | carbon60 | Anyone know if it is possible to have an app use a secondary IP on an interface as source? |
| 14:02.08 | dvm1981_lpt | kspath, you're not a bot, or one with faults ? |
| 14:02.14 | jm_ | carbon60: as long as app supports it |
| 14:02.23 | Guerin | kspath: how do you feel about having met my cousin Eliza? |
| 14:02.25 | jetscreamer | k31th: did you try perhaps a beta installer, or asking in #debian-boot ? |
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| 14:02.35 | kspath | dvm1981_lpt: That would not be my fault. |
| 14:02.36 | carbon60 | jm_: Specifically, without the apps help. :-) |
| 14:02.54 | dvm1981_lpt | kspath, i believe it ;-) |
| 14:03.06 | kspath | Guerin: Our cousins have the same name? |
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| 14:03.24 | jetscreamer | it's the first ai isn't it |
| 14:03.30 | jetscreamer | ~eliza |
| 14:03.32 | apt | ACTION is in love with eliza |
| 14:03.46 | jetscreamer | ~botlove |
| 14:03.47 | apt | ACTION hugs CIA-5 |
| 14:04.30 | zamaliphe | hi how can i mov the /root dir to /home |
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| 14:04.46 | jetscreamer | you don't want to? |
| 14:04.55 | uwe | zamaliphe, edit /etc/passwd |
| 14:05.06 | zamaliphe | ok |
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| 14:05.10 | blondie | ln -s /root /home/root |
| 14:05.10 | blondie | c.c |
| 14:05.22 | kspath | As a Hu-man, I am artificially intelligent. I learning by trial and error. I can apply learned information to appropriate situations to varying degrees of success. |
| 14:05.28 | uwe | and do mv /root /home/root |
| 14:05.36 | Guerin | kspath: tell me more about our cousins have the same name. |
| 14:05.43 | uwe | or as blondie said |
| 14:05.53 | jm_ | carbon60: perhaps with some preloadable lib |
| 14:05.56 | kspath | Guerin: I do not know more of your cousin. |
| 14:06.20 | jetscreamer | @kissing cousins |
| 14:06.29 | jetscreamer | ok nm i'm lame |
| 14:06.47 | Guerin | kspath: why is it that you say you do not know more of my cousin? |
| 14:07.03 | jetscreamer | @parse error |
| 14:07.03 | kspath | Guerin: Can you repeat that? |
| 14:07.17 | jetscreamer | @botsnack |
| 14:07.35 | k31th | jetscreamer: no and no just joined and asked |
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| 14:07.45 | erchache | hi |
| 14:07.45 | jetscreamer | k31th: hth |
| 14:07.47 | Guerin | kspath: let's talk more about you. |
| 14:08.00 | kspath | Guerin: I am not interesting. |
| 14:08.01 | erchache | i created a dd hd image of 60 gb over ssh on 9 hours |
| 14:08.06 | liable | wtf |
| 14:08.15 | uwe | um, i asked in #linux and #linuxhelp, so ill try here again, anyone knows why i cant login to the newly created users on NIS server on NIS client? ie , the users created on the server. |
| 14:08.16 | jetscreamer | heh i remember that line |
| 14:08.16 | erchache | but to restore it....take 24 hours and dont finished......why? |
| 14:08.27 | dvm1981_lpt | So we can not talk with 'apt' ? |
| 14:08.29 | erchache | router collision?.... |
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| 14:08.31 | SerajewelKS | erchache: HD might have slower write than read |
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| 14:08.45 | SerajewelKS | erchache: most drives don't write as fast as they read |
| 14:08.50 | erchache | perhaps....but.....24 hours! and dont finish! |
| 14:08.50 | Guerin | kspath: this is getting boring. |
| 14:08.55 | jetscreamer | erchache: i know nothing but your upload speed is slower than that servers? |
| 14:09.01 | IronRoses | are the dpkg bots working? |
| 14:09.05 | carbon60 | Hrm. |
| 14:09.05 | kspath | Guerin: Yeah, why do you keep it up? |
| 14:09.06 | liable | no |
| 14:09.08 | erchache | im on lan |
| 14:09.11 | jetscreamer | no use apt or ~ |
| 14:09.13 | carbon60 | jm_: any pointers to start on that? |
| 14:09.17 | IronRoses | apt nvidia |
| 14:09.19 | apt | from memory, nvidia is proprietary? no dri? |
| 14:09.19 | dvm1981_lpt | IronRoses, no |
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| 14:09.25 | erchache | jetscreamer: im on lan |
| 14:09.27 | SerajewelKS | erchache: that's 2.6 times as slow as the read speed. that's not unusual at all. |
| 14:09.28 | jm_ | carbon60: I don't know of any such libraries |
| 14:09.33 | dvm1981_lpt | yep; but hi is not nice 'apt' |
| 14:09.34 | IronRoses | ~nvidia-one-liner |
| 14:09.47 | erchache | jetscreamer: better to reinstall from zero is... ;-) |
| 14:09.48 | jetscreamer | erchache: that was my only thought, sorry i know nothing |
| 14:09.50 | tralala | IronRoses: on private, please |
| 14:10.02 | IronRoses | could somone tell it to me please |
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| 14:10.09 | SerajewelKS | ~nvidia one-liner |
| 14:10.10 | apt | apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential module-assistant && apt-get install -t unstable nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-source && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install -t unstable nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib, non-free, sid sources all needed. see <quick ... |
| 14:10.12 | jetscreamer | apt's db isn't synched to dpkg's |
| 14:10.14 | juanma | hola |
| 14:10.15 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 14:10.19 | IronRoses | thanks |
| 14:10.34 | jetscreamer | IronRoses: /msg apt listkeys |
| 14:10.41 | jetscreamer | IronRoses: /msg apt listkeys <term> |
| 14:10.47 | ice_1963 | apt-get install module-assistant |
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| 14:11.03 | dvm1981_lpt | ice_1963, in the wrong thing |
| 14:11.12 | bonden | hello. usually growisofs works like a charm for me and burns what ever I provide it, but today when I needed to burn a DVD it gives me a: ":-( write failed: Input/output error" " |
| 14:11.13 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 14:11.25 | SerajewelKS | bonden: bad disc? |
| 14:11.26 | IronRoses | oph yeh |
| 14:11.32 | Guerin | !i/o error |
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| 14:11.46 | bonden | serj: Just buoght new ones... shouldn't be any trouble? =( |
| 14:11.46 | jetscreamer | bad permissions? |
| 14:11.50 | IronRoses | I have another hard drive, it is an ntfs, debian can not see it, meaning i can't mount it? |
| 14:11.52 | dvm1981_lpt | whe can not talk with 'apt' in private, i have try, no response |
| 14:11.58 | bonden | no, it worked alright before... |
| 14:11.59 | SerajewelKS | jetscreamer: I/O error is not permissions-related |
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| 14:12.04 | IronRoses | I tryed adding it to the fstab, but i still can't get to it |
| 14:12.05 | jetscreamer | IronRoses: man 5 mount, search dmask and fmask |
| 14:12.15 | IronRoses | thanks jetty |
| 14:12.20 | SerajewelKS | IronRoses: is the partition listed in /proc/partitions? |
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| 14:12.28 | IronRoses | hold on,... |
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| 14:12.41 | jetscreamer | SerajewelKS: okie i'm a n00b (there at least) |
| 14:12.54 | zamaliphe | ln -s /root /home/root |
| 14:13.01 | zamaliphe | didint work |
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| 14:13.17 | SerajewelKS | zamaliphe: please define "didn |
| 14:13.17 | blondie | zamaliphe: orly, what does it say? |
| 14:13.22 | SerajewelKS | zamaliphe: 't work" |
| 14:13.25 | jetscreamer | you did that 'as' root, zamaliphe ? |
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| 14:13.47 | IronRoses | yes |
| 14:14.00 | zamaliphe | root@zam:/# ln -s /root /home/root |
| 14:14.00 | zamaliphe | ln: `/home/root/root': File exists |
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| 14:14.35 | bonden | is there a way to see if a dvd-r/cd-r is writable? |
| 14:15.04 | Kurtism | A woman's husband had been slipping in and out of a coma for several months, yet she had stayed by his bedside every single day. One day, he motioned for her to come nearer. As she sat by him, he whispered, eyes full of tears, "You know what? You have been with me all through the bad times. When I got fired, you were there to support me. When my business failed, you were there. When I got shot, you were by my side. When we lost the hous |
| 14:15.05 | mrkofee | zamaliphe: there already is a file/link/dir named root in /home/root |
| 14:15.09 | Kurtism | woah |
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| 14:15.18 | zamaliphe | root@zam:/# ls |
| 14:15.18 | zamaliphe | bin boot cdrom dev disks etc floppy home lib media mnt opt packages proc root sbin sys tmp usr var vmlinuz |
| 14:15.21 | SerajewelKS | IronRoses: yes, it's listed in /proc/partitions? |
| 14:15.31 | IronRoses | yeh, it is listed |
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| 14:16.00 | bonden | I now tried with a different DVD-R with the same result. |
| 14:16.01 | SerajewelKS | IronRoses: try mounting it, like: mkdir /mnt/windows; mount /dev/hdwhatever /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o ro |
| 14:16.04 | jetscreamer | how about there is already a /home/root |
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| 14:16.27 | mrkofee | zamaliphe: ls /home/root ? but if you want to have a link to root on the home partition rm/move/whatever /home/root and do a ln -s /root/ /home/ |
| 14:16.28 | jm_ | bonden: dvd+rw-mediainfo, cdrecord -atip |
| 14:16.45 | jetscreamer | ah there it is |
| 14:16.50 | jetscreamer | ~jm_++ |
| 14:17.00 | bonden | jm: ok, thanks |
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| 14:18.45 | IronRoses | woohoo |
| 14:18.53 | IronRoses | I can access it, only via root...lol |
| 14:18.55 | zamaliphe | rm: cannot remove `/root': Is a directory |
| 14:19.02 | IronRoses | but i can just change the permission to the drive myself |
| 14:19.06 | IronRoses | thanks t=for the hel guys |
| 14:19.10 | jetscreamer | dont remove /root |
| 14:19.13 | mrkofee | you should not remove /root/ |
| 14:19.18 | jetscreamer | remove /home/root |
| 14:19.29 | mrkofee | like i say :) |
| 14:20.14 | jetscreamer | IronRoses: yes you can. man 5 mount, search (/) for fmask and dmask |
| 14:20.22 | jetscreamer | and uid & gid |
| 14:20.35 | zamaliphe | i have mov the /root to /hom/root |
| 14:20.39 | bonden | hm! with the -joliet-long option it seem to work! I have no clue why. I'm stumbling around in real darkness with this shit. |
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| 14:21.13 | jetscreamer | just close your eyes and fall |
| 14:21.15 | zamaliphe | then ln -s /root /home/root |
| 14:21.16 | sett | he i've got kernel panic today on old machine booting debian from disketes |
| 14:21.21 | sett | got a photo of that |
| 14:21.24 | str0_ | hallo. |
| 14:21.27 | Luftzig | I got back to my new keyboard... and, well, I tried xev to get keycode for the keys to bind them and shit, bu some of them do nothing... but when I run hotkey they work. others, when the keyboard is connected to USB, return a code for mouse press. wtf is going on? |
| 14:21.29 | bonden | might it just be that the filenames were too long for the program? |
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| 14:21.52 | jm_ | bonden: no |
| 14:22.00 | Guerin | bonden: likely. joliet has pretty strict requirements unless you enable long |
| 14:22.01 | jetscreamer | or it's written with joliet extensions or whatever? |
| 14:22.13 | Guerin | 31 characters or somesuch |
| 14:22.15 | bonden | guerin: ok, it seem like that. |
| 14:22.15 | samo_ | valdyn, can you help me again, i'm at the following section in the how to : 4. Install packages and compile the kernel module and dont really know what is to be done next |
| 14:22.22 | jm_ | Guerin: that's ISO9660, not Joliet |
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| 14:22.34 | Guerin | which is barely enough for antidisestablishmentarianism.txt |
| 14:22.39 | zamaliphe | how to remov ln -s /root/ /home/root/ |
| 14:22.47 | bonden | but "-joliet-long" has to do with the filenames, no? |
| 14:22.57 | Guerin | jm_: oh. joliet has two levels though, right? |
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| 14:23.18 | jm_ | bonden: you can easily test this - run mkisofs manually |
| 14:23.41 | liable | what about supercalisticfragicmisatalicoptious.heh? |
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| 14:23.48 | mrkofee | rm /home/root zamaliphe if it is a link |
| 14:23.50 | valdyn | samo_: you used module-assistat to build the drivers? |
| 14:24.01 | jm_ | Guerin: that's ISO9660 AFAIK |
| 14:24.05 | rvalles_ | Sometimes, my dsl connection dies (pppoe), and pppd then dies too (lcp-ping-whatever... detects connection is dead) |
| 14:24.16 | rvalles_ | but then, I'd want it to respawn |
| 14:24.23 | rvalles_ | how do I make it so it respawns when it dies? |
| 14:24.30 | jetscreamer | zamaliphe: put /root back imo |
| 14:24.39 | samo_ | i used dpkg-buildpackage i think |
| 14:24.45 | jm_ | rvalles_: option "persist" |
| 14:25.05 | bibe | hi all. Is making a live cd out of my installed sarge system very difficult? I'd like to use the very same tools/configurations on a different machine, using a "generic" kernel (as the debian "stock" kernels, with most of hardware support built as a module) |
| 14:25.10 | rvalles_ | jm_: I have it set, but... I'm not confident |
| 14:25.21 | jm_ | rvalles_: wfm |
| 14:25.23 | samo_ | then i installed what came out of it : dpkg -i fglrx-driver_8.19.10-1_arch.deb |
| 14:25.50 | rvalles_ | jm_: I kinda thought it was "on connect" only, to retry again and again and again forever, but still die on disconnet |
| 14:25.59 | valdyn | samo_: jump to 4.1d and try that |
| 14:26.04 | jm_ | bibe: apt-cache show bootcd |
| 14:26.16 | liable | bibe: why not just --set-selctions and cp /etc?? |
| 14:26.17 | jm_ | rvalles_: it properly reconnects for me |
| 14:26.32 | rvalles_ | jm_: ok, I'm happy to hear so |
| 14:26.36 | zamaliphe | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.36 | zamaliphe | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.39 | sett | http://truefoto.com/index.php?link=showfile&fileid=29094&comments=0 |
| 14:26.40 | valdyn | samo_: or if you already have the driver installed, try 'modprobe fglrx' |
| 14:26.46 | bibe | jm_ : thank you very much! |
| 14:26.46 | samo_ | i d like to try but right now i did bzcat fglrx.tar.bz2 and the console is displaying a serie of weird characters |
| 14:26.57 | sett | trying to install debian sarge to pentium 133 |
| 14:27.05 | rvalles_ | jm_: I used to have a gentoo box behind the pppoe, and I had adsl-start/stop on it, and adsl-connect relaunched pppd when it died |
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| 14:27.10 | rvalles_ | sett: this is a p133, too! |
| 14:27.13 | rvalles_ | sett: sid :) |
| 14:27.19 | bibe | liable : I'd like to use it like a rescue cd |
| 14:27.25 | sett | what the hell does that error mean |
| 14:27.25 | valdyn | samo_: you dont need to deal with that file directly |
| 14:27.42 | jm_ | rvalles_: ohh there are cases where it gives up and then quits, that might be it - I don't think it ever took that long for me, or I don't remember it |
| 14:27.47 | samo_ | ok well ill reboot and i hope the console will be back to normal |
| 14:27.53 | samo_ | then i ll follow instructions at 4.1 |
| 14:27.59 | valdyn | samo_: 3b. has Binaries, just install the ones for your system |
| 14:28.12 | samo_ | ok |
| 14:28.12 | valdyn | samo_: the _only_ package you have to build is the one containing your kernel module binary |
| 14:28.12 | jm_ | sett: tried 2.6? |
| 14:28.16 | phycho | hey guys, cant someone tell me whats wrong with this... |
| 14:28.20 | phycho | admin@uml:~/uml$ /sbin/mkfs.ext3 -f rootfs.hoary |
| 14:28.21 | phycho | mkfs.ext3: invalid fragment size - rootfs.hoary |
| 14:28.23 | phycho | ;/ |
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| 14:28.31 | phycho | it says to do that in the docs |
| 14:28.33 | phycho | yet it doesnt work |
| 14:28.36 | sett | jm no |
| 14:28.38 | jm_ | remove -f switch |
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| 14:28.47 | jm_ | sett: worth a try I guess |
| 14:28.48 | phycho | k |
| 14:28.55 | zamaliphe | now i have a /root bakup at root@zam:/# mv /home/root /home/root_buk |
| 14:29.00 | sett | is there a diskette image with 2.6? |
| 14:29.07 | phycho | ty jim_ |
| 14:29.10 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 14:29.11 | valdyn | samo_: flavios warnings are often at the wrong places really, that red box is just pointless ( completely ) |
| 14:29.12 | phycho | *jm |
| 14:29.23 | valdyn | samo_: the red box at 3b. Binaries |
| 14:29.38 | pabs3 | what would be the most space efficient uuencode type thing in debian? |
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| 14:29.58 | samo_ | hmm ok, so i could have done it installing binaries |
| 14:30.05 | valdyn | samo_: yes |
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| 14:31.04 | jm_ | hmm I thought there are, but I ohly see one set on the FTP |
| 14:31.21 | samo_ | valdyn, the last two commands that went okay were : dpkg -i fglrx-driver_8.19.10-1_arch.deb |
| 14:31.23 | samo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.41 | valdyn | samo_: now, scroll down to the recommended way and use module-assistant |
| 14:31.55 | valdyn | samo_: 4.1d |
| 14:31.56 | slept | quitte_, nfs ? |
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| 14:32.09 | samo_ | ah okay, thanks |
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| 14:33.36 | p30n | hello |
| 14:33.41 | samo_ | module-assistant prepare is asking to install kernel-headers, should i go along with that ? |
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| 14:33.50 | liable | yes |
| 14:33.53 | p30n | i was here yesterday asking about this error msg on one of my discs |
| 14:33.53 | p30n | no DRQ after issuing WRITE |
| 14:33.53 | p30n | ide0 reset: success |
| 14:34.17 | p30n | and people told me that i have a broken disc so i took it out and baked it up, but now i found this page |
| 14:34.18 | p30n | http://www.linuxsa.org.au/mailing-list/2001-04/358.html |
| 14:34.26 | p30n | thats says its not broken :p |
| 14:34.29 | p30n | what do u think |
| 14:34.44 | dvm1981_lpt | qsynaptic not work with xorg ? i what to disable the tapping |
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| 14:35.52 | dvm1981_lpt | it's verry bad with the touchpad, the tapping option i would like to disable it, can someone point me on the right way ? |
| 14:35.56 | valdyn | samo_: you can do whatever it sais, but if you setup your kernel source properly as described above it should not be required i think |
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| 14:36.39 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: put Option "MaxTapTime" "0" in the InputDevice section for synaptics in xorg.conf |
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| 14:37.00 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, i try it :-) thx |
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| 14:37.40 | Armi | how to set an antiderivative with openoffice math ??? |
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| 14:38.26 | stew | Armi: you'd probably have better luck asking in #openoffice.org |
| 14:38.30 | liable | Armi: maybe an oo list might be a better place to ask. |
| 14:38.33 | Armi | k |
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| 14:39.47 | amee2k | what package contains ldapadd? |
| 14:39.55 | bbrazil | amee2k: apt-file search |
| 14:40.10 | liable | !hi |
| 14:41.07 | HolyGoat | hmm.. is there a way to grep from the bottom of a file instead of the top? |
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| 14:41.17 | amee2k | bbrazil: i can't find apt-file. maybe u mean apt-cache? |
| 14:41.25 | HolyGoat | oh, better ask in ##linux I guess |
| 14:41.36 | kneet | amee2k, apt-get install apt-file first? |
| 14:41.37 | amee2k | already tried that one but with no ressult |
| 14:41.40 | liable | ~installit |
| 14:42.03 | wuming | is dpkg down? |
| 14:42.11 | liable | yeah |
| 14:42.12 | azeem | wuming: yes |
| 14:42.21 | amee2k | ah, found apt-file.... |
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| 14:43.49 | samo_ | valdyn, it worked :) thanks a lot for your help, the resolution is stuck at 800*600 so far but at least there is an image |
| 14:43.52 | amee2k | "apt-file search \*ldapadd\*" returned no results (with exit status 0) |
| 14:44.22 | Cache__ | I just finished installing debian and Grub is giving me Error 21. I can't get grub to like my SATA RAID array, Which i installed debian to / & /usr . I put /home under the first HDD, which i also installed the MBR to. Does anyone have any ideas what the hell i should do? |
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| 14:44.41 | azeem | usr/bin/ldapadd net/ldap-utils |
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| 14:44.48 | azeem | amee2k: ^^ that's from packages.ubuntu.com |
| 14:44.53 | azeem | amee2k: bug might help you |
| 14:44.57 | valdyn | samo_: welcome |
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| 14:45.07 | azeem | s/bug/but/ |
| 14:45.09 | maximus | Hi is there any software I can install that will allow me to convert dvr-ms files into another format? |
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| 14:45.22 | amee2k | azeem: thx. I'll try |
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| 14:47.30 | amee2k | azeem: thank you. "apt-get install ldap-utils" did it :) |
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| 14:50.00 | dvm1981_lpt | stew: It's looks that the synaptic work a less better, but not really like i want; i want really desactivate the click and shit thing, or i have doing it bad |
| 14:50.12 | kneet | amee2k, regarding apt-file - you'll need to run an apt-file update at least once before it has any data to search in |
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| 14:50.55 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, so i have do like you have say there; to add in the xorg.conf |
| 14:51.08 | bonden | I installed the ibritish wordlist for having the actuall wordlist - but now it seems that debian/etch directly makes an hash file for ispell and removes the wordlist itself - why? I need the wordlist..... |
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| 14:53.03 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: setting MaxTapTime to zero should work. can I see your InputDevice section(s)? can you put them in a pastebin? |
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| 14:53.28 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, thx :-) |
| 14:53.33 | freq47 | can anyone help me install lameMP3 |
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| 14:53.45 | Cache__ | anyone have any ideas on my previous quesiton |
| 14:53.52 | rutski89 | All of a sudden i really hate gentoo |
| 14:53.55 | wuming | which java jdk i can install for testing? |
| 14:54.01 | rutski89 | if gentoo was a bug i'd step on it |
| 14:54.07 | freq47 | i get /lib/cpp fails sanity check |
| 14:54.15 | azeem | Cache__: I am not sure you can install GRUB on a RAID directly |
| 14:54.18 | azeem | at least not in all cases |
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| 14:54.34 | Cache__ | well, grubs' on IDE 1 |
| 14:54.48 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 14:54.52 | Cache__ | and Debian is on sda# |
| 14:54.52 | pabs3 | freq47: http://debian-unofficial.org/ has a .deb iirc |
| 14:55.00 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, http://pastebin.ca/38788 |
| 14:55.10 | sjr_ | is dpkg bot down? |
| 14:55.29 | dvm1981_lpt | sjr_, it looks of |
| 14:55.38 | dvm1981_lpt | !test |
| 14:55.44 | dvm1981_lpt | ~test |
| 14:55.45 | apt | Test Failed! |
| 14:55.53 | sjr_ | :( |
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| 14:56.07 | dvm1981_lpt | sjr_, use apt bot |
| 14:56.07 | sjr_ | are there any unofficial packages for X11R7 lying around?> |
| 14:56.11 | sjr_ | k |
| 14:56.12 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: you are using Driver "mouse" instead of Driver "synaptics", so MaxTapTime will not work |
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| 14:56.38 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, hhhm, so i change it :-) |
| 14:56.53 | pabs3 | sjr_: they just need to be approved, then they'll be in experimental: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html |
| 14:57.06 | kspath | hehehe |
| 14:57.08 | Cache__ | i'm really starting to fucking hate GRUB, it's never been able to boot a god damn SATA RAID device, I've tried Slackware, Gento, and now Debian |
| 14:57.19 | tarzeau | sjr_: for faster http://bub-n-bros.sf.net playing? |
| 14:57.29 | _rene_ | sjr_: uh, isn't 6.9/7 identical except the modularization? |
| 14:57.40 | _rene_ | sjr_: and 6.9 already is in sid |
| 14:58.01 | _rene_ | sjr_: you just need Linux 2.6.16-rc1 or some older one with r300 CVS head |
| 14:58.16 | sjr_ | ok |
| 14:58.19 | sjr_ | i have 2.6.16-rc1 |
| 14:58.29 | sjr_ | i'll try building this monstrosity |
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| 14:58.37 | _rene_ | uh? why? |
| 14:58.54 | _rene_ | hint: if you use sarge, there already *is* a backport ;-) |
| 14:58.56 | freq47 | sorry i am new to debian, who do you install .deb |
| 14:59.13 | sjr_ | what are we talking about? |
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| 14:59.18 | sjr_ | x.org or linux? |
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| 14:59.28 | _rene_ | x.org |
| 14:59.48 | _rene_ | if you have linux 2.6.16-rc1 and x.org 6.9 it may work. |
| 14:59.50 | pureone | freq47, man dpkg -i blah.deb, man dpkg for more info |
| 14:59.50 | sjr_ | so there are packaged versions of recent CVS snapshots? |
| 14:59.57 | _rene_ | it eve might with 6.8 |
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| 15:00.16 | _rene_ | I only know that the needed update apparently went into 2.6.16-rc1 |
| 15:00.20 | sjr_ | i'm running xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 |
| 15:00.42 | sjr_ | I get (II) RADEON(0): [agp] You may want to make sure the agpgart kernel module |
| 15:00.42 | sjr_ | is loaded before the radeon kernel module. |
| 15:00.45 | illsci | hey i am trying to run usermod -p in a script over ssh |
| 15:00.48 | hArTh | i know debian has some kind of ncurses based gui for viewing transfer speeds over NICs but I can remember its name. Can some one help me out with correct command name? |
| 15:00.50 | _rene_ | then it might work. note that I didn't test it yet because 2.6.16-rc1 refuses to boot here |
| 15:00.51 | illsci | and it doesnt change the passwds right |
| 15:00.53 | sjr_ | and agpgart is loaded |
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| 15:01.03 | illsci | the $1$H stuff gets dropped |
| 15:01.10 | _rene_ | sjr_: are they really loaded *in the right oder*? |
| 15:01.19 | illsci | how can i do like usermod -p $1$Hsomepasswd root |
| 15:01.20 | _rene_ | sjr_: and: is "radeon" loaded? |
| 15:01.31 | illsci | over ssh and have it keep the stuff in the -p as is |
| 15:01.39 | stew | sjr_: which appears first when you run: lsmod | egrep "(radeon|agpgart)" |
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| 15:01.43 | Cache__ | FUCK |
| 15:02.03 | stew | !comfort Cache__ |
| 15:02.03 | Cache__ | anyone here ever install onto a SATA RAID?? |
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| 15:02.16 | sjr_ | hmm, radeon |
| 15:02.26 | stew | sjr_: then agpgart? if so, that is good |
| 15:02.31 | sjr_ | ya |
| 15:02.44 | stew | sjr_: (they come out in most recently loaded first order) |
| 15:02.46 | sjr_ | i'm also loading radeonfb, is that going to affect anything? |
| 15:03.07 | _rene_ | stew: oh, interesting. didn'Ät know *that* |
| 15:03.12 | Cache__ | why do i always have to be the only one with problems installing to a SATA Raid... |
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| 15:03.26 | cisse | Cache__: what controller ? |
| 15:03.29 | Cache__ | VIA |
| 15:03.36 | cisse | which via ? |
| 15:03.36 | Cache__ | ...one second |
| 15:03.51 | Cache__ | vt8237' |
| 15:04.01 | sjr_ | like the tree said to the lumberjack: I'm stumped! |
| 15:04.06 | Cache__ | on an asus with AMI bios |
| 15:05.07 | stew | sjr_: what is the problem you are trying to fix? |
| 15:05.19 | sjr_ | (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration unsupported on R300 type cards and newer. |
| 15:05.23 | sjr_ | stew: that one ;) |
| 15:05.25 | freq47 | thax abunch, for the source site |
| 15:05.32 | Cache__ | one strikes me as odd is that in the BIOS when i set the first HDD, it says VIA VT6420 (i'm going to google that now VT6420) |
| 15:05.45 | sjr_ | I want 2D acceleration with the radeon driver |
| 15:05.55 | sjr_ | I'm sick and tired of lousy binary-only drivers |
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| 15:06.32 | ludovicus | i feel your pain, i switched to nvidia |
| 15:06.36 | stew | sjr_: oh, i didn't even think those weree supported at all, dunno |
| 15:06.59 | stew | ludovicus: nvidia is generally much worse than ati if you want free drivers |
| 15:07.01 | cisse | Cache__: whats the problem with installing on sata raid? are you doing the raid in hardware ? |
| 15:07.01 | sjr_ | stew: I think in the very latest CVS head there is experimental support for 2D-only acceleration with r300 |
| 15:07.11 | Cache__ | the raid is hardware |
| 15:07.12 | cisse | stew: worse ? |
| 15:07.20 | stew | _rene_: now you have me second guessing myself, but I'm nearly certain that they come out in that order |
| 15:07.22 | cisse | Cache__: ah ok, so is your array not being recognized ? |
| 15:07.27 | Cache__ | not by grub |
| 15:07.32 | Cache__ | Debian loves my array |
| 15:07.36 | Cache__ | so does Gentoo |
| 15:07.41 | Cache__ | slackwre didn't but whatever |
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| 15:07.53 | cisse | whats your root= line look like in grub ? |
| 15:08.02 | netman1 | debian-installer sarge. Part of postinstall is defining the definitive /etc/network/interfaces. The most sure way to get it all right was, we thought, "ifdown -a ; /etc/init.d/networking restart", but the ifdown does not kill dhclient. What is the right way to do this? |
| 15:08.08 | Cache__ | i don't know how to get to it in the god damned debian installer |
| 15:08.11 | zinx | sjr_: there's experimental 3d support with r300 :x |
| 15:08.13 | Cache__ | otehrwise i would tell you |
| 15:08.30 | zinx | sjr: 2d accel has been around for some time, though possible not with composite |
| 15:08.45 | sjr_ | zinx: yea, I'd kinda hoped to get both :( |
| 15:08.51 | abrotman | is it real SATA raid ? |
| 15:08.56 | Cache__ | yeah why |
| 15:09.04 | sjr_ | zinx: I don't know what it is, but there's something about having those translucent windows ... ;) |
| 15:09.08 | Cache__ | what else would i be? |
| 15:09.09 | stew | Cache__: who makes the card? |
| 15:09.13 | abrotman | Cache__: fakeraid |
| 15:09.13 | Cache__ | it's onboard |
| 15:09.21 | cisse | Cache__: hit alt ctrl f to get another term and use less |
| 15:09.23 | Cache__ | VIA, from an asus |
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| 15:09.40 | Cache__ | alright cool thanks cisse |
| 15:09.47 | stew | Cache__: what driver does it use? |
| 15:09.49 | strider | sjr_: for that you need dri |
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| 15:10.03 | Cache__ | VIA VT 8237 |
| 15:10.16 | Cache__ | i'm not sure what drive it uses |
| 15:10.19 | strider | sjr_: either get the libgl1-mesa-dri package which has the drivers (albeit outdated) |
| 15:10.22 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, i have try it, but then x complains and not more work; an no more keyboard then, i have reset the original file |
| 15:10.43 | sjr_ | strider: ok, so I have Linux 2.6.16-rc1, xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4, and a Radeon 9700 |
| 15:10.47 | sjr_ | strider: should i just give up? :D |
| 15:10.50 | strider | or use 2.6.16-rc1 which has the r300 cvs |
| 15:10.53 | Eulex | strider, that one's too old. |
| 15:11.02 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: do you have the xfree86-driver-synaptics package installed? |
| 15:11.13 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, xorg ? |
| 15:11.23 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: yes |
| 15:11.26 | Eulex | strider, you need mesa 6.4.0 or newer afaik. |
| 15:11.34 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, work that for xorg ? |
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| 15:11.49 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: yes, apt-cache show xfree86-driver-synaptics |
| 15:11.50 | sjr_ | one day I hope I can install this all from a neat set of packages :D |
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| 15:11.58 | strider | Eulex: yeah, i know. But i made do with that for over a month. Direct rendering works for me with a 9700 |
| 15:12.09 | Cache__ | stew: where would i find the answer to your previesuo quesiton on the drivers it uses? |
| 15:12.11 | pipeline | sjr_: The only problem there is the last option. |
| 15:12.12 | sjr_ | damned hardware vendors |
| 15:12.12 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, doing because i have not installed i think |
| 15:12.19 | pipeline | sjr_: Buy a not-pain-in-the-ass card. |
| 15:12.23 | sjr_ | pipeline: yea :( |
| 15:12.27 | Eulex | strider, hmm, ok |
| 15:12.27 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: this would probably explain why qsynaptics wasn't working |
| 15:12.32 | pipeline | sjr_: by the way, the proprietary drivers are so bad, even if you got it working, you will wish you hadn't. |
| 15:12.48 | sjr_ | pipeline: I reckon, I've had nothing but woes with recent kernels |
| 15:13.04 | Eulex | yes, fglrx is way too slow for 2d, at least here. |
| 15:13.05 | sjr_ | pipeline: much better to have unaccelerated video with free drivers |
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| 15:13.19 | pipeline | sjr_: I'm still using 2.6.7 :P |
| 15:13.35 | sjr_ | pipeline: ah.. I usually pull Linus tree every couple of days or so hehe |
| 15:13.36 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, yes, that's why hi also complain ;-) |
| 15:13.40 | Eulex | and it's buggy too |
| 15:13.45 | stew | Cache__: one way is to look up the id from lspci -n in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.pcimap |
| 15:13.50 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, understanding better now :-) |
| 15:14.01 | stew | Cache__: the id being 1106:???? |
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| 15:14.34 | Cache__ | no clue man, |
| 15:14.53 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, a it was already installed he say |
| 15:14.57 | stew | Cache__: what makes you say that this is hardware raid and not fakeraid? |
| 15:15.12 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: what was the error you got from the xserver? |
| 15:15.13 | Cache__ | because i have reformatted gentoo and slackware with it like 10 times and kept the data |
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| 15:16.26 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, euhm i got not it; eeuhm my keyboard would not work, i have not check that, no keyboard, nothings then |
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| 15:16.51 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, i have not good explain it, i think |
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| 15:17.19 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: if you could put the log up somewhere you wouldnt' have to explain anythihng |
| 15:17.48 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, hhhmm; right, in wich log; message ? |
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| 15:18.28 | rredd4 | how do i check a downloaded file with md5. I am using windows xp and have a md5.exe program. I am going to install debian, just wanted to check the dl. |
| 15:18.35 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:18.53 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, right, i was looking in the message |
| 15:19.35 | Eulex | rredd4, launch a command line prompt and run md5.exe filename? |
| 15:19.40 | strider | rredd4: probably run md5 filename |
| 15:19.58 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, i paste it in pastebin; little by big |
| 15:20.08 | rredd4 | ok.. trying |
| 15:20.10 | rredd4 | brb |
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| 15:20.57 | sjr_ | thanks for the help guys, off to bed for me! |
| 15:21.10 | mrkofee | re |
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| 15:22.40 | futlib | hi, I'm writing a c program that checks a password via crypt(3) - what salt do I need to use to encrypt a password to the same hash as in /etc/passwd on a debian system? |
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| 15:23.08 | spo0nman | I want a free software to pick up a phone call ... save it to a file ... fire a script/event any existing software? |
| 15:23.28 | Cache__ | FUCK this, i give up, i'm going ot install deiain under ide |
| 15:23.29 | dvm1981_lpt | !test |
| 15:23.33 | spo0nman | the phone is obviously connected to a voice modem. |
| 15:23.43 | stew | futlib: the salt is the first 8 digits after $1$ |
| 15:23.45 | Cache__ | this is the 10th install i have \nt been able to get sata raid working as / |
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| 15:24.00 | stew | @test |
| 15:24.00 | LeonWP | can somebody tell me the sources.list-entry for debian contrib? |
| 15:24.12 | bbrazil | ~test |
| 15:24.13 | apt | Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! |
| 15:24.13 | dvm1981_lpt | http://pastebin.ca/38795 |
| 15:24.19 | futlib | stew: so I need to get the first 8 bytes after $1$ from the hash in etc passwd? thanks |
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| 15:24.31 | Eulex | LeonWP, just add contrib at the end of an existing source line. |
| 15:24.33 | stew | futlib: /etc/shadow usually but yeah |
| 15:24.43 | futlib | stew: s/passwd/shadow/g ;9 |
| 15:24.51 | LeonWP | Eulex, i am on ubuntu here :) could you tell me yours? |
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| 15:25.17 | Eulex | !ubuntu |
| 15:25.20 | beardy | LeonWP: #ubuntu |
| 15:25.22 | Eulex | gah |
| 15:25.29 | dvm1981_lpt | ~ubuntu |
| 15:25.30 | apt | somebody said ubuntu was has a lot of users because the lot of pornography: http://htmldesign.dk/mostwanted/img/Ubuntu_Josie_1_ed3_800.png http://www.theonelab.com/files/images/thumbnails/ubuntu-startup.jpg http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg http://www.madebylane.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-babe.png Woooha ! Im go to ubuntu ! :D~~ |
| 15:25.33 | stew | LeonWP: mixing ubuntu and debian packages is not needed and likely to screw your system up |
| 15:25.46 | Eulex | LeonWP, debian != ubuntu. off to #ubuntu with ya. |
| 15:25.57 | LeonWP | gaaa |
| 15:26.06 | Cache__ | wtf |
| 15:26.12 | markonis | quick question : can someone take a gpl graphic and include it in graphic under the Attribution Non-commercial No Derivatives (by-nc-nd) license? |
| 15:26.27 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, have you look at ? http://pastebin.ca/38795 |
| 15:26.30 | LeonWP | i don't need ubuntu staff, i just need the sources.list-entry for DEBIAN contrib |
| 15:26.46 | _rene_ | LeonWP: just add it. it's goddamn trivial |
| 15:26.47 | Eulex | markonis, no. the gpl forces any derivative work to be gpl'ed. |
| 15:27.00 | _rene_ | LeonWP: if you already have a sources.list entry for main.. |
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| 15:27.26 | N0S3 | i use clamav , this is a very good, but i need antivirus backup, which recommend me? |
| 15:27.34 | Eulex | LeonWP, apt-setup will get you one, if you run debian. if you don't, you shouldn't use them. |
| 15:27.37 | cisse | Cache__: did you install with 2.4 or 2.6 kernel ? |
| 15:27.43 | Cache__ | 2.6 |
| 15:27.48 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: no, i need the log that shows the problem while trying to use the synaptics driver |
| 15:28.00 | LeonWP | steri, i need two packages which aren't availible from ubuntu-sources. and packages.debian.org is down |
| 15:28.02 | cisse | odd |
| 15:28.10 | Cache__ | cisse: i'm actually in the middle of an installed right now |
| 15:28.21 | Cache__ | the 4th debian instlal i've done |
| 15:28.26 | Eulex | markonis, your only hope in doing so is contacting the author to relicense the gpl'ed graphic. |
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| 15:28.33 | markonis | Eulex,does Attribution Non-commercial No Derivatives (by-nc-nd) confict with gpl? |
| 15:28.41 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, yes; so you not see it; no problem now; okay i cause the problem again... |
| 15:28.42 | markonis | Eulex, thanks btw |
| 15:28.42 | _rene_ | LeonWP: then just add it. but till, mixing debian and ubuntu might giveproblems... |
| 15:28.48 | _rene_ | s/till/still/ |
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| 15:29.14 | futlib | stew: did you mean the first 8 bit (digit) or the first 8 byte? |
| 15:29.14 | _rene_ | Ubuntu often does incompatiböle changes. or does stufbefore debian for trying stuff out... |
| 15:29.25 | morgajel2 | just to verify- grub should treat a single SATA drive as (hd0), and it should show up as /dev/sda once booted, correct? |
| 15:29.27 | elephantMan | Hi akll |
| 15:29.30 | Cache__ | woohoo, lilo error code 1 |
| 15:29.32 | LeonWP | _rene_, I know. But I do *not* know what to add.. |
| 15:29.52 | elephantMan | Is it possible that a running computer shut down the electrical installation by provoking overweight ? |
| 15:29.55 | markonis | Eulex, it's the other way around :) someone has taken a graphic of mine (gpl) and included it in his (Attribution Non-commercial No Derivatives (by-nc-nd) |
| 15:29.55 | _rene_ | LeonWP: den just think and look.... it's so goddamn easy.... |
| 15:30.26 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, i can't remember what exact i have changed before; you have say it to me, and i have not noted, |
| 15:30.31 | elephantMan | I know its out of topics |
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| 15:30.40 | Eulex | markonis, well, he can't relicense your work. |
| 15:31.05 | rredd4 | strider: i opened a cmd window, went the md5 directory, my deb file that i want to check is in that folder. I typed "md5 \debian-31r1a-i386-businesscard.iso" and got back cannot open input file \debian-31r1a-i386-businesscard.iso |
| 15:31.12 | stew | futlib: bytes |
| 15:31.12 | _rene_ | debians archive is similarily based as ubuntus (wrt apt usage). so look at your ubuntu entries and think |
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| 15:31.16 | LeonWP | _rene_, woah.. where is the problem to simply tell me it? |
| 15:31.18 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: change driver mouse to drver synaptics |
| 15:31.20 | LeonWP | .. |
| 15:31.20 | morgajel2 | markonis: send him a friendly letter asking to please follow the licensing guidelines and say you expect to hear a response. |
| 15:31.37 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, there whas another thing also; and that i can remember |
| 15:31.41 | markonis | Eulex, I think so too. but he says that Attribution Non-commercial No Derivatives (by-nc-nd) does not confict with the gpl license |
| 15:31.42 | morgajel2 | markonis: if he doesn't send him a cease and decist giving him 10 days to remove it. |
| 15:31.46 | Nwallins | would it be bad to suid tcpflow? i need a way to run this program as my normal user |
| 15:31.51 | _rene_ | LeonWP: I do expect people to think at least a bit |
| 15:31.57 | beardy | elephantMan: (what do you mean?) Depends on the computer, and the rest of the load on the electrical system in the house/building. But probably not. |
| 15:32.00 | morgajel2 | markonis: if he doesn't respond to that, take him to smail claims court for $400 in damages |
| 15:32.02 | Eulex | markonis, sure, but that doesn't mean he can relicense it. |
| 15:32.04 | _rene_ | LeonWP: telling everything to everyone doesn't help thjose people because they then don't learn |
| 15:32.12 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, i can not remeber the other thing also that i have change |
| 15:32.16 | _rene_ | if you would have tought a bit you would have found something like |
| 15:32.18 | phycho | mnsg ickserv identify 313960 |
| 15:32.18 | _rene_ | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free |
| 15:32.27 | phycho | haha guess ill need to change my pass now |
| 15:32.27 | _rene_ | of course, change mirror and distri as appropriate |
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| 15:32.36 | _rene_ | and main, non-free removal of course |
| 15:32.37 | jclinton | what program does menu edition in gnome? |
| 15:32.41 | LeonWP | _rene_, ah. Thank you. |
| 15:32.54 | beardy | phycho: Yes, and learn to create proper passwords. |
| 15:32.57 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, or is just the driver enought ? |
| 15:32.59 | phycho | !etch |
| 15:33.04 | phycho | i dont have proper passwords for irc |
| 15:33.08 | phycho | its pointless |
| 15:33.09 | dvm1981_lpt | ~etch |
| 15:33.10 | apt | rumour has it, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
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| 15:33.19 | beardy | phycho: We all know that now. |
| 15:33.29 | phycho | how the hell do i get dpkg to tell me about etch |
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| 15:33.42 | resiak | Maybe dpkg doesn't know about etch? |
| 15:33.51 | Nwallins | phycho: uhh.. did you see the reply 6 lines up? |
| 15:34.01 | morgajel2 | ~sata |
| 15:34.02 | apt | Ideally you want Jeff Garzik's libata patch against 2.4.x. See http://lwn.net/Articles/52488/ . For a netinst w/libata, see http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ to make one with a custom kernel, or http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html for more options. If that seems too much trouble, it's the price of using bleeding-edge hardware. ("You can tell the ... |
| 15:34.02 | Eulex | markonis, if cc is gpl-compatible (which actually is questionable), that means that cc code can be included in gpl'ed programs and vice versa. afaik, but I'm no expert, so don't trust me :) |
| 15:34.02 | phycho | yep |
| 15:34.06 | markonis | morgajel2, Eulex so he has to remove my graphic from his and release it in whatever he wants or release his under the gpl |
| 15:34.07 | phycho | ah |
| 15:34.08 | beardy | dpkg is sleeping |
| 15:34.09 | phycho | i see it |
| 15:34.09 | phycho | haha |
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| 15:34.33 | phycho | uml:/home/uml# debootstrap etch mnt http://ftp.freenet.de/debian |
| 15:34.34 | morgajel2 | markonis: if he wishes to use your work. if he doesn't, take him to small claims court. |
| 15:34.36 | rredd4 | help please i am in win xp trying to md5 a debian file. i opened a cmd window, went the md5 directory, my deb file that i want to check is in that folder. I typed "md5 \debian-31r1a-i386-businesscard.iso" and got back cannot open input file \debian-31r1a-i386-businesscard.iso |
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| 15:34.50 | dvm1981_lpt | ~shit |
| 15:34.51 | apt | well, shit is feces |
| 15:34.58 | wuming | which java jdk i can install for testing? |
| 15:35.02 | dvm1981_lpt | dpkg are better |
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| 15:35.31 | resiak | ~tell wuming -about java |
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| 15:35.42 | resiak | Hmm, apt's factoid is non-good |
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| 15:35.54 | markonis | ok thanks all |
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| 15:36.30 | Eulex | markonis, basically yes. |
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| 15:39.46 | futlib | stew: is the "$1$" part of the salt? |
| 15:39.47 | jelly-work | rredd4: drop the backslash from that command line. |
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| 15:41.12 | KerPlunk | If I'm using stable..and I use gimp..and a new version of gimp comes out...will I ever see that new version if I apt-get dist-upgrade, with debian.org/sarge in my sources? or not until the next version of stable(etch) comes out? |
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| 15:41.57 | cockroach | KerPlunk: not until the next version of stable comes out |
| 15:42.05 | crypt_ex | cool, just successfully flashed my razr v3 :D |
| 15:42.19 | futlib | stew: I did it, thank you |
| 15:42.32 | KerPlunk | thanks cockroach |
| 15:42.39 | cockroach | np |
| 15:42.45 | KerPlunk | I thought that was the case...but this article I was reading on digg says otherwise. |
| 15:42.49 | pabs3 | KerPlunk: try http://backports.org if you want newer stuff on sarge |
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| 15:43.12 | _rene_ | s/want/need/ |
| 15:43.18 | _rene_ | just wanting is IMHO no argument |
| 15:43.20 | KerPlunk | I know..I use testing anyway...I just wanted clarification. |
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| 15:43.27 | raf256[laptop] | !gentoo |
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| 15:43.38 | chigvan | hello |
| 15:43.39 | DeadZed | !gentoo |
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| 15:43.43 | KerPlunk | !greet chigvan |
| 15:43.49 | KerPlunk | bot is dead |
| 15:43.51 | raf256[laptop] | !smite me |
| 15:43.54 | DeadZed | How do I boot Vista with grub? |
| 15:44.15 | KerPlunk | cockroach: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/free_issues/issue_10/jump_to_debian |
| 15:44.19 | Cache__ | how do i boot Debian under SATA RAID with grub |
| 15:44.34 | DeadZed | not that Id be expecting an answer :) |
| 15:44.40 | KerPlunk | This website says "he testing distribution contains packages that havent been accepted for the stable release yet, but after extensive testing will eventually move over." |
| 15:44.53 | chigvan | quick ques? I've got debain 3.16 that loads the 2.4 kernel, how can i force the 2.6 kernel during install? |
| 15:44.54 | Eulex | DeadZed, I'd expect it to be the same as xp |
| 15:45.00 | _rene_ | KerPlunk: which will be done when stable gets released, yes :) |
| 15:45.07 | rredd4_ | can i use businesscard to load sarge? my cd 1 is no good and i don't want to use netinstall with dial up. Will businesscard allow me to use cd2 - cd14? |
| 15:45.10 | DeadZed | Eulex for some reason it is not |
| 15:45.13 | KerPlunk | chigvan: Just type "linux26" when the "boot:" prompt comes up |
| 15:45.22 | Eulex | DeadZed, hmm, then I dunno |
| 15:45.25 | KerPlunk | _rene_: yea but it doesn't say that. |
| 15:45.27 | chigvan | thanks kerplunk |
| 15:45.40 | firewarrior | i did a netinstall of debian, but when the manager for the desktop and sql etc. came i pushed enter before marking the things i want ! please help |
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| 15:46.16 | beardy | firewarrior: Just install what you want with aptitude or apt-get. |
| 15:46.29 | resiak | firewarrior: `tasksel` is the name of that program, should you want to re-summon it |
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| 15:46.50 | Nwallins | `man tcpflow` in etch seems to be munged up.. starting at the explanation for -c |
| 15:47.11 | KerPlunk | wow, so Disney owns pixar..which made the movie Toy Story..which debian project uses for code names for distributions...small world eh? |
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| 15:47.15 | KerPlunk | Disney owns debian now. |
| 15:47.37 | dvm1981_lpt | firewarrior, otherwise use 'tasksel' |
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| 15:47.52 | beardy | KerPlunk: Flawed is your logic. |
| 15:48.02 | dvm1981_lpt | firewarrior, so you're back again where you hit to fast |
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| 15:48.07 | KerPlunk | beardy: I'm just joking/trolling. |
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| 15:48.10 | Cache__ | cool |
| 15:48.17 | Cache__ | i crashed the debian installer |
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| 15:48.24 | Bklyn | hm, I'm trying to /msg dpkg 2006 key but I'm getting no response |
| 15:48.27 | Bklyn | anyone have that info handy? |
| 15:48.28 | Cache__ | how come it's always me with problems |
| 15:48.36 | beardy | KerPlunk: Trolling is so much worse than being stupid for real. |
| 15:48.43 | stew | Bklyn: http://dpkg.vireo.org/2006+key |
| 15:48.44 | SerajewelKS | can i hear an "nvidia rocks"? |
| 15:48.45 | pureone | haha |
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| 15:49.06 | dvm1981_lpt | Bklyn, hi is down |
| 15:49.10 | dvm1981_lpt | ~test |
| 15:49.12 | apt | Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! |
| 15:49.13 | Nwallins | perhaps change the topic? |
| 15:49.21 | Bklyn | "hi"? |
| 15:49.23 | resiak | apt: dpkg factoid $1 is <reply> http://dpkg.vireo.org/$1 |
| 15:49.25 | apt | okay, resiak |
| 15:49.25 | SerajewelKS | love linux... swapped out a geforce FX5500 for a GT6600, didn't have to download a new driver or reconfigure anything =) |
| 15:49.31 | stew | Bklyn: i think he means "he" |
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| 15:49.47 | DeadZed | How do I boot Vista with grub? |
| 15:49.48 | KerPlunk | beardy: I just said it to get some people to laugh...So it was more comedian then it was trolling. |
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| 15:49.57 | tziku | hello, i need an avidence program for debian (a table like in webmin at users) where can view/add/deled/modif only loged users. I don't know to create using sql/mysql . Any ideea ? |
| 15:50.02 | KerPlunk | But no one laughed so now I just feel like a troll. |
| 15:50.06 | Nwallins | KerPlunk: ha ha.... ha? |
| 15:50.42 | DeadZed | tziku siteworx ? |
| 15:50.43 | zumbi | do you know want package to install for X11 libs-dev ? |
| 15:50.44 | dvm1981_lpt | ~dpkg |
| 15:50.46 | apt | somebody said dpkg was a bot, or the low-level command to install and manipulate Debian package files (.debs). |
| 15:50.46 | beardy | KerPlunk: :) (that line was funny though) |
| 15:50.53 | zumbi | s/want/what/ |
| 15:51.11 | KerPlunk | zumbi: xorg or xfree86? |
| 15:51.20 | tziku | DeadZed yes on http , any port dosn't matter. |
| 15:51.26 | beardy | !wake up |
| 15:51.38 | resiak | dondelelcaro: dpkg doesn't like us :-( |
| 15:51.42 | zumbi | KerPlunk: not really, it is to compile against x11 libs |
| 15:51.42 | KerPlunk | yea, I can't help anyone or myself without dpkg...I've become so dependent on the bot. |
| 15:51.55 | jelly-work | !test |
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| 15:52.10 | KerPlunk | !ops the bot is broken and it makes it hard to help people |
| 15:52.17 | KerPlunk | lol, woops |
| 15:52.18 | beardy | Now is the time to learn to think for oneself. |
| 15:52.19 | jelly-work | hahaha |
| 15:52.19 | dvm1981_lpt | jelly-work, test fail |
| 15:52.20 | beardy | HAHA |
| 15:52.20 | stew | KerPlunk: don't do that |
| 15:52.41 | stew | KerPlunk: there is nothing that anyone but dondelelcaro can do, and he's been notified, don't bother the ops |
| 15:53.00 | dvm1981_lpt | ~stupid |
| 15:53.01 | apt | from memory, stupid is http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/bart.gif, or ibot |
| 15:53.01 | KerPlunk | stew: Maybe the other ops work with dondelelcaro and if they see the problem they can go to his cubicle. |
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| 15:53.14 | resiak | KerPlunk: They don't. |
| 15:53.21 | abrotman | Wyzard: ping |
| 15:53.25 | tziku | DeadZed is for a shop , that shop rent cars and we have 1 server and 3 dealers. and we want to insert there: fron rent date , to rent date, telephone, and some description(big), car number. |
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| 15:53.45 | vimp | Should I run `grub-install /dev/hda` or just `grub` , after I edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ? |
| 15:53.51 | resiak | vimp: Neither. |
| 15:54.00 | resiak | vimp: grub reads /boot/grub/menu.lst at boot time |
| 15:54.11 | Luftzig | i've got a "logitech internet navigator keyboard", and I set the model in xorg using "setxkbmap -model logicink", but xev doesn't print anything for some keys. those keys work with htkeys, but I want to map them for something else |
| 15:54.22 | vimp | resiak: thanks |
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| 15:55.38 | valdyn_ | Luftzig: being an usb device and even telling you in dmesg that it 'contains' a mouse those buttons might aswell be 'mouse buttons' |
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| 15:56.05 | Estes2 | Hi everyone :) |
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| 15:56.27 | dvm1981_lpt | nobody have look to the link that apt give ?? |
| 15:56.33 | dvm1981_lpt | ~stupid |
| 15:56.34 | apt | well, stupid is http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/bart.gif, or ibot |
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| 15:56.47 | dvm1981_lpt | go guys ... |
| 15:57.09 | Luftzig | dvm1981, I looked. funny |
| 15:57.16 | valdyn_ | Luftzig: which X version is it you are running? |
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| 15:58.07 | Luftzig | valdyn_, so how can I make use of them? why can I just get some keycode? |
| 15:58.33 | Estes2 | I add a user using adduser -p $1$AN1H1Rmc$56xq9Jqsvtd1NwdeauT4D1 username I get the pasword from mkpasswd -H md5 <passwd in clear> but after creation, i can't login as this user, the password is refused.Anyone to help please ? stew ? |
| 15:59.13 | Luftzig | valdyn_, whatevers default on etch right now. can't remember exacly |
| 15:59.57 | cisse | Estes2: add the user, and then use passwd to change their password |
| 16:00.17 | stew | Estes2: my adduser doens't have a -p option documented. have you checked /etc/shadow to see if -p is doing what you think it should be doing? |
| 16:00.27 | valdyn_ | Luftzig: you could add 'Load "evdev"' in the Module section in your xorg.conf file, that's for 'extended' mouse buttons iirc. |
| 16:01.12 | Luftzig | valdyn_, ok. and then I could map those keys? |
| 16:01.13 | stew | Estes2: what version of adduser do you have? |
| 16:01.24 | valdyn_ | Luftzig: file you need for that is /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/evdev_drv.so. I dont know. |
| 16:01.53 | Estes2 | stew 3.63 |
| 16:01.57 | Estes2 | shipped with sarge |
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| 16:02.41 | Estes2 | stew, hum, no i don't have the password in /etc/shadow |
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| 16:02.56 | gpm | hey everyone. i'm on gnome in sid (2.12) and gnome-volume-manager mounts my ipod just great with usb, however, with firewire, it only detects it and doesn't mount it for some reason. i can pmount it or mount it normally, but g-v-m/hald/dbus/pmount/whatever isn't automounting with firewire. i can just use usb for the time being, but does anyone know why this would be? |
| 16:03.02 | Estes2 | stew, i have set the user also having a shell beeing /dev/null |
| 16:03.11 | Estes2 | does it interfers ? |
| 16:03.17 | stew | Estes2: adduser 3.63 doesn't have a -p option |
| 16:03.19 | ptlis | DNS is failing to resolve on my linux box as of yesterday, no configuration has changed and it's resolv.conf contains the same domain names as this box and this one resolves DNS fine. |
| 16:03.19 | Luftzig | valdyn_, thanks. I think i'll also take a second look at hotkeys, maybe I can use it for what I have in mind |
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| 16:03.21 | ptlis | Any |
| 16:03.38 | ptlis | Any ideas what's up? |
| 16:03.48 | stew | Estes2: if the shell is /dev/null you won't be able to log in |
| 16:03.54 | Ugot2BkidNme | can anyone tell mee how i can find if the amanda-server deb on Sarge is compiled with smbclient suppport? |
| 16:03.59 | Estes2 | stew, sorry i am wrong, i meant useradd |
| 16:04.14 | mzilikazi | any pointers for a lox-latency kernel? do i need a patch or is it already in the linux-source-2.6.15 ? |
| 16:04.19 | mzilikazi | errr low-latency |
| 16:05.30 | Estes2 | stew, yes, that's a for a kind of user, i'm stupid, i want this fro some users... i'll test now with a user having /bin/sh as shell |
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| 16:06.03 | Jazon | hi guys |
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| 16:06.21 | Cache__ | after the cd1 (DVD) installation, what do i do with dvd 2? (Basically i'm looking for the chapter/section on where the hell i am inside the manual) |
| 16:06.21 | Jazon | what command do i use to copy a file from a remote computer when i am ssh connected to it? |
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| 16:07.16 | flodine | hello can someone tell me if my sata will work with debian 3.1 |
| 16:07.18 | rindolf | Hi all! |
| 16:07.33 | azeem | flodine: choose the linux26 option |
| 16:07.37 | Cache__ | flodine: are you installing to SATA RAID? |
| 16:07.42 | azeem | flodine: not all chipsets might be supported |
| 16:07.43 | flodine | no |
| 16:07.47 | Cache__ | oh |
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| 16:08.05 | flodine | i have intel duo core chip will it work |
| 16:08.14 | valdyn | mzilikazi: why do you think you need this? |
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| 16:08.21 | k31th | Guys if im setting upsoftware raid... and i have part up my first disc do i need create the same partitions on the second disc ? |
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| 16:08.23 | rindolf | How do I search for files contained in an uninstalled package? I want to find a package that contains a certain file. |
| 16:08.37 | th0ger | Hi; apt-get install openoffice.org2 -> "selecting openoffice.org instead of openoffice.org2". Im running sarge/stable, but have stable/unstable/testing in my sources.list. Why cant i install oo2? |
| 16:08.47 | mzilikazi | valdyn: becasue jack doesn't work too well unless you have a low-latency kernel |
| 16:08.51 | cusco | how do I configure identd.conf to allow irc clients to use their own ident? |
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| 16:09.02 | jelly-work | th0ger: that IS oo2. |
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| 16:09.10 | valdyn | th0ger: oo.orgs verions in sid is 2.x , that doesnt need a new package name |
| 16:09.16 | stew | th0ger: do not mix non-stable packages in a stable system, use a backport /msg dpkg backports |
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| 16:09.41 | kspath | Is there a strings command to be had? Found it in various BSDs and Linuxs but not debian sarge... |
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| 16:10.23 | jelly-work | kspath: it's in binutils package. |
| 16:10.24 | stew | kspath: in the binutils package |
| 16:10.32 | Denyerec | .. I've recently explodified my old FC3 server and was toying with the idea of using Ubuntu, which I know is based on Debain, to replace it. It's a local dev server not a huge production thing. WOuld straight Debain be a better idea? |
| 16:10.43 | Estes2 | stew, ok, corrected the shell thingy but still, i got no password set in /etc/shadow.... here's the line.... testuser:x:1002:1001::/home/homes/testuser:/bin/bash |
| 16:10.56 | kspath | stew thanks, oddly I searched 3 times |
| 16:11.04 | kspath | jelly-work thanks, oddly I searched 3 times |
| 16:11.07 | stew | Estes2: that's /etc/passwd not /etc/shadow |
| 16:11.10 | Estes2 | ... And here is the issued command... useradd -d /home/homes/testuser -g webusers -m -k /home/admin/global_conf/skel -p $1$oNBfYiB9$QQsKzK1n6TrtoR9e.8WeC. -s /bin/bash -u 1002 testuser |
| 16:11.39 | Estes2 | stew: sorry, here's the shadow testuser:.8WeC.:13175:0:99999:7::: |
| 16:11.48 | jelly-work | kspath: apt-file can help you find a package if you know a file name. |
| 16:11.51 | th0ger | stew: valdyn would you recomend to "upgrade" to unstable? |
| 16:12.02 | valdyn | mzilikazi: why dont you just increase jackd's buffer size? |
| 16:12.31 | flodine | does debian support 1920x1200 for monitors |
| 16:12.32 | stew | th0ger: i never recommend people to upgrade to unstable. if you want oo.o2 in sarge, i recommend installing it from backports.org |
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| 16:13.48 | kspath | jelly-work one line description fails to mentions strings and others oh well I will search more deeply next time thanks |
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| 16:14.04 | stew | Estes2: that's odd, its not even md5 encrypted |
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| 16:14.24 | mzilikazi | valdyn: will look into it |
| 16:14.45 | Estes2 | humm |
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| 16:15.20 | Nwallins | is there a reason why tcpflow's ./configure would insist that /usr/lib/libpcap.so.* does not exist? I have the package installed, but I had to hack the source for my needs |
| 16:15.26 | k31th | if i have no other OS's on this box its safe to use the mbr ? |
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| 16:15.36 | Denyerec | Anyone ? |
| 16:15.40 | Estes2 | stew, should i put the password by myself in /etc/shadow like it's outputed from mkpassword ? |
| 16:15.45 | sts | hello folks |
| 16:15.57 | sts | can anyone help me with the following apt error? |
| 16:15.58 | sts | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 16:15.59 | sts | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:15.59 | sts | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:17.35 | Nwallins | k31th: afaik, yes |
| 16:17.38 | sts | sorry for pasting.. http://pastebin.com/525816 |
| 16:17.56 | kspath | so odd normally when I install most tools strings is always there so I rarely had to grab a utils package/set/other |
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| 16:18.53 | rrt | I am trying to add a boot splash and menu.lst says it can't find splash. Is there a special location to put the image? |
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| 16:20.08 | stew | Estes2: either that or figure out why useradd isn't working for you |
| 16:20.14 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, are you a less bussy now ? So that i can pastebin my problem with synaptics |
| 16:20.20 | Nwallins | checking for --with-pcap option... configure: error: /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.8 does not exist! BUT IT DOES. I can read it with less |
| 16:20.31 | Denyerec | Should I ask again, or assume no-one was willing to offer an opinion ? |
| 16:20.35 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: whenever, i'm in and out all day |
| 16:21.06 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, that i see here, can i post it and could you look a bit ? |
| 16:21.24 | Estes2 | stew, adding it this way would work so ? |
| 16:21.28 | Estes2 | humm, trying.. |
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| 16:21.31 | Nwallins | Denyerec: most people in here would recommend debian. it basically goes without saying. there's really only one way to find out |
| 16:21.41 | Denyerec | :S |
| 16:21.51 | Denyerec | "Install fail and re-install something else" |
| 16:21.53 | Denyerec | ? |
| 16:21.54 | Denyerec | :) |
| 16:22.09 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, you are here many time man :-) and helping the others :-) |
| 16:22.16 | Nwallins | i would try ubuntu and see if it meets your needs. it's definitely friendlier |
| 16:22.18 | Denyerec | is the package management the same across Ubuntu/Debian? EG Synaptic and apt-get ? |
| 16:22.18 | stew | Estes2: ooooh, you need to quote the hash on the command line |
| 16:22.26 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, that's really great :-) |
| 16:22.36 | Estes2 | oh..., ok trying again :) |
| 16:22.41 | stew | Estes2: the $1 and $foo are being interpreted by the shell as variables |
| 16:22.41 | cisse | Denyerec: synaptic is a frontend for apt basically |
| 16:22.54 | Nwallins | Denyerec: under the covers, yes |
| 16:22.59 | Denyerec | Yeah I figured... just wondered if the standard Deb setup came with it |
| 16:23.11 | Nwallins | Denyerec: you may want to try #ubuntu |
| 16:23.15 | Denyerec | I have an Ubuntu ISO here, so... I guess that answers it. |
| 16:23.21 | Denyerec | #ubuntu on this IRC server ? |
| 16:23.28 | Nwallins | give it a whirl |
| 16:23.37 | Denyerec | Rgr. |
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| 16:23.38 | Eulex | Denyerec, I'd recommend debian. you don't need the newbie gui friendliness of ubuntu if you're setting up a server. |
| 16:23.39 | Denyerec | Thanks chaos. |
| 16:23.42 | Denyerec | chaos? |
| 16:23.48 | Denyerec | Chaps. |
| 16:23.59 | Denyerec | Does the std. Debian install come with Gnome ? |
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| 16:24.27 | stew | Denyerec: no, it comes with only the bare minimum (no gui) by default, but it's easily added on |
| 16:24.35 | Denyerec | apt-get Gnome |
| 16:24.37 | Denyerec | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.41 | Eulex | Denyerec, no, but you can choose to install it wheninstalling debian. though I wouldn't recommend having any gui ona server if you don't really have to have it. |
| 16:24.47 | Eulex | *on a |
| 16:24.48 | dvm1981_lpt | I have a problem to setup synaptics, when i set it, the X complain and not start, i have also the problem that i then no more have control of the keyboad, then hi not work http://pastebin.ca/38802 |
| 16:25.01 | Denyerec | I wouldn't, normally, but there are moments when I flake out and need the GUI to hold my hand. I'm no expert, you see. |
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| 16:25.10 | Estes2 | after double quotes... should i have used simple quotes ? testuser:OVrhUaH:13175:0:99999:7::: |
| 16:25.18 | k31th | is there any decent docs for configin an sw raid1 in debian |
| 16:25.35 | Eulex | Denyerec, you could come in here and ask if there's anything you fail to do in the cli. |
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| 16:25.58 | flodine | guys im on ubuntu and just wanna know if debian is just as goodor better |
| 16:25.59 | embrik | i'm trying to figure out a script removing a directory in all my pupils home-directory. I want to move .kde in /skole/tjener/home/nn/ |
| 16:26.13 | Nwallins | flodine: yes |
| 16:26.21 | Denyerec | aye, but for certain things the GUI is a damn sight easier and quicker. Especially for idiots like myself :/ |
| 16:26.22 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: do you have both mousedev and psmouse modules loaded? |
| 16:26.33 | cusco | how do I find out which ident daemon I am runing? |
| 16:26.33 | Eulex | flodine, this is #debian, what answer would you expect? |
| 16:26.42 | dvm1981_lpt | stew; i do an lsmod |
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| 16:26.51 | Estes2 | i'll retry with simple quotes |
| 16:27.09 | Eulex | Denyerec, learning to use the cli will gain you a lot. |
| 16:27.11 | mzilikazi | flodine: umm since ubuntu would not exist without debian i think debian is far better |
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| 16:27.23 | mzilikazi | that's where the REAL os is ;) |
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| 16:27.28 | mzilikazi | just my .02 |
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| 16:27.38 | Nwallins | mzilikazi: is the cake better with icing? |
| 16:27.38 | flodine | Eulex im hoping it work with my intel chip and my 1920x1200 screen and pci express |
| 16:27.41 | dvm1981_lpt | stew : yes the both are loaded |
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| 16:28.01 | Denyerec | more packages would be available for Deb than Ubuntu? Or are they totally parallel ? |
| 16:28.03 | hans0lo | I am having a problem with Acrobat plugin in Firefox. It locks the browser every time I open a PDF. |
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| 16:28.12 | Denyerec | (Talking about standardised repos here, not specialist ones) |
| 16:28.33 | Cache__ | hans0lo: make the Helper Ap;llication for the MIME type of PDF to Save to Disk whenever it gets it |
| 16:28.35 | Eulex | flodine, debian does support what ubuntu supports. |
| 16:28.39 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: then it looks like either your touchpad is not synaptics, or is too new to be supported by the driver in debian |
| 16:28.48 | mzilikazi | Nwallins: hmm you speak in riddles |
| 16:28.49 | bgat | call me crazy, but every time I run Konqueror in sarge, my XFree86 (nvidia) goes to 100% CPU. Anyone have any idea why? |
| 16:28.57 | Nwallins | mzilikazi: :) |
| 16:29.01 | Cache__ | hans0lo: there is also an extension for PDF's as well that downloads them instead of opening them in the browser |
| 16:29.09 | flodine | Eulex so the kernel dont matter |
| 16:29.13 | Estes2 | YES !! stew thanks !!! i offer you a beer whenever you're around boston, it works :D |
| 16:29.15 | Cache__ | hans0lo: or just use Mozilla because firefox sucks ass |
| 16:29.19 | _rene_ | bgat: the prop. nvidia driver? |
| 16:29.21 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, it's an old laptop an Compaq Armada 1750 |
| 16:29.28 | bgat | _rene_: yes. Installed "the debian way" |
| 16:29.42 | Eulex | flodine, it does, but most of the time you don't need a very new one. it's easy to obtain a new one if you need it though. |
| 16:29.47 | _rene_ | bgat: well, there you have the problem :-P |
| 16:29.49 | Nwallins | mzilikazi: i would say that icing improves the cake if you like the icing |
| 16:29.50 | bgat | _rene_: stock sarge setup otherwise. 2.6.8 kernel |
| 16:30.02 | bgat | _rene_: can't do multihead without it tho, right? |
| 16:30.05 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, i have receive it; i think its 1999 |
| 16:30.13 | hans0lo | Cache__: I'll try out mozilla and see if it does it there also. |
| 16:30.18 | mzilikazi | Nwallins: well i like to make my own icing especially when the flavor offered is ugly brown ;) |
| 16:30.23 | Denyerec | Jesus H... HOW many CD's ? |
| 16:30.28 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: what device is your mouse pointing to? /dev/psaux? /dev/input/mice? |
| 16:30.31 | Denyerec | I thought Fedora was bad... |
| 16:30.31 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, hi is born in 1999, i do not know ho to say it |
| 16:30.32 | freq47 | anyone been able to stream live video through debian? |
| 16:30.35 | Cache__ | hans0lo: do the first two i suggested before mozilla |
| 16:30.55 | _rene_ | dvm1981_lpt: 14 iirc. but you don't need all if you have fast net connection... |
| 16:30.57 | _rene_ | ARGS |
| 16:31.04 | _rene_ | Denyerec: 14 iirc. but you don't need all if you have fast net connection... |
| 16:31.07 | thingfish | Denyerec: 14. But you can get by with the netinstall CD if you have a fast connection. |
| 16:31.11 | thingfish | hehe |
| 16:31.13 | Denyerec | hehe |
| 16:31.14 | Denyerec | :) |
| 16:31.17 | _rene_ | Denyerec: just the first or even netinstall does suffice |
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| 16:31.27 | embrik | i'm trying to figure out a script removing a directory in all my pupils home-directory. I want to move .kde in /skole/tjener/home/nn/ |
| 16:31.29 | Denyerec | Yeah, only thing with a net install is I'm liable to miss something I didn't think I needed :) |
| 16:31.33 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, where i can look that ? |
| 16:31.43 | _rene_ | dvm1981_lpt: there's no difference |
| 16:31.45 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 16:31.49 | _rene_ | GARAARRR |
| 16:31.50 | Eulex | Denyerec, even if you get the cd's you only install the stuff you need. |
| 16:31.54 | _rene_ | FUCKING NICK COMPLETION |
| 16:31.56 | _rene_ | *sighs |
| 16:31.56 | Denyerec | True enough |
| 16:32.11 | Denyerec | I'll grab disk 1 and assume that's all I'll need to get going with. |
| 16:32.13 | Eulex | Denyerec, there's no such thing as a complete install with debian. |
| 16:32.14 | dvm1981_lpt | _rene_, what ? |
| 16:32.30 | _rene_ | dvm1981_lpt: 17:31 < _rene_> FUCKING NICK COMPLETION |
| 16:32.31 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, sorry ;-) |
| 16:32.35 | stew | Denyerec: that's all you need assuming you can get on the net with the stock kernels |
| 16:32.56 | Eulex | Denyerec, as you can't even do that, because of packages conflicting with each other. you just get the things you need. |
| 16:33.04 | dvm1981_lpt | _rene_, What ? i really not understand man |
| 16:33.17 | _rene_ | *shrugs* |
| 16:33.19 | Nwallins | Denyerec: yeah, don't count on wireless networking for a netinstall |
| 16:33.33 | N0S3 | i use clamav , this is a very good, but i need 2 antivirus , which recommend me? |
| 16:33.40 | dvm1981_lpt | _rene_, it's looks that you would say that i have say a thing that i have not say |
| 16:33.45 | stew | Nwallins: that depends heavily on the wireless chipset, if its prism based for instance, it's no problem |
| 16:33.52 | _rene_ | dvm1981_lpt: I meant Denyerec. and got you because of tab completion.. |
| 16:34.02 | Eulex | N0S3, most times you don't even need one. |
| 16:34.07 | _rene_ | d<tab> |
| 16:34.07 | Denyerec | :) |
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| 16:34.28 | dvm1981_lpt | _rene_, to complicate to type 'De<TAB>' !!! |
| 16:34.33 | ma3x | as what -type can I mount freebsd partition? |
| 16:34.44 | azeem | ufs? |
| 16:34.48 | _rene_ | dvm1981_lpt: exactly. one letter more |
| 16:34.48 | Denyerec | Ok next Q then... assuming I'm going with Debian... |
| 16:34.51 | _rene_ | ;-) |
| 16:34.52 | Denyerec | Which release? |
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| 16:35.00 | _rene_ | Denyerec: if you need to ask -> stable |
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| 16:35.09 | Cache__ | Denyerec: yeah rene is right |
| 16:35.10 | azeem | _rene_: or get an IRC client which completes on people you talked with recently first |
| 16:35.10 | Cache__ | lol |
| 16:35.11 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, it's a 'mice' |
| 16:35.18 | Nwallins | azeem: such as? |
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| 16:35.23 | Denyerec | haha |
| 16:35.24 | Denyerec | so true |
| 16:35.29 | ma3x | ufs was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write |
| 16:35.32 | Denyerec | is stable "sarge" that people refer to ? |
| 16:35.33 | ma3x | I get that error |
| 16:35.37 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: try /dev/psaux |
| 16:35.44 | azeem | ma3x: maybe there is no read-write support then |
| 16:35.51 | thingfish | Denyerec: yes. |
| 16:35.54 | ma3x | azeem, I need someone to tell me for sure |
| 16:35.55 | secureboot | i'm a bit confused as to how debian packages are compiled - they are made for generic x86, right? So if I'm using an athlon xp (k7) chip, the programs won't run as fast as if I compiled them for k7, right? |
| 16:36.01 | azeem | ma3x: check the docs |
| 16:36.06 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: wierd, mine (which is working) is pointing to /dev/mouse which doesn't exist on my system, hrm |
| 16:36.09 | embrik | i'm trying to figure out a script removing a directory in all my pupils home-directory. I want to move .kde in /skole/tjener/home/nn/ |
| 16:36.11 | azeem | Nwallins: I believe irssi does that. At least, I am very seldom annoyed by its tab-completion |
| 16:36.21 | Nwallins | azeem: cool, thanks |
| 16:36.26 | _rene_ | azeem: irssi does it with the last one who talked |
| 16:36.32 | embrik | anybody who can help me with a small script? |
| 16:36.32 | _rene_ | azeem: tm it does give me Denyerec |
| 16:36.33 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, ok trying, strange not ? |
| 16:36.45 | _rene_ | azeem: just not now anymore ;-) |
| 16:36.53 | thd | how do I find the original source for /etc/pam.d/su ? |
| 16:36.58 | azeem | _rene_: you run irssi? |
| 16:36.58 | Denyerec | tell you what, it's worth turning off sounds in channels like these... |
| 16:37.02 | _rene_ | azeem: jup |
| 16:37.06 | azeem | hrm, ok |
| 16:37.11 | Denyerec | Especially when your nick trigger is the NI from Monty Python and the HOly Grail... |
| 16:37.15 | Eulex | secureboot, true, but for most programs there's not any big difference. for the programs it matters for, there's usually an optimized compiled version available. especially for kernels and libc6. |
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| 16:37.56 | Eulex | secureboot, get a k7 kernel and the i686 libc6. |
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| 16:38.13 | secureboot | Eulex: okay, thanks - i was just looking into apt-build for an underclocked server... |
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| 16:38.29 | secureboot | Eulex: wondering if i would see a difference - my experience has indicated yes (10-20%) |
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| 16:38.43 | jono_ | hia ll |
| 16:38.46 | jono_ | hi all |
| 16:38.47 | jono_ | I am on Debian and I installed libapache2-svn but I dont see the module in /etc/apache2/mods-available - any idea why? |
| 16:38.48 | azeem | jono_: hey |
| 16:38.53 | jono_ | hey azeem |
| 16:38.56 | Vladdy | hmm, how do I set up debian properly in a 50 computer environment? |
| 16:38.58 | Eulex | secureboot, yes, you're likely to see differences of that magnitude. but is it really worth the pain? |
| 16:39.13 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: actually it seems to work without a Device Option at all, so that is probably not the problem |
| 16:39.16 | N0S3 | stew: you can help me? |
| 16:39.18 | ma3x | how can I mount BSD partition on linux? |
| 16:39.29 | azeem | ma3x: ufs |
| 16:39.30 | Eulex | secureboot, depends a lot on what you compile, though. |
| 16:39.36 | secureboot | Eulex: depends on how painful apt-build ends up being :) |
| 16:39.38 | stew | N0S3: i don't know, i only use clamav |
| 16:39.41 | ma3x | azeem, it's not working!!!!!!! |
| 16:39.46 | azeem | ma3x: d'oh |
| 16:39.47 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, i not good understand it :-( |
| 16:40.05 | lezardus | hum... dpkg is not answering.. :( |
| 16:40.08 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: i don't know what is wrong with your mouse |
| 16:40.10 | ma3x | azeem, nei! |
| 16:40.25 | stew | N0S3: f-prot seems to be popular but i don't know much about it |
| 16:40.35 | stew | N0S3: and i don't know if it is free |
| 16:40.41 | kspath | Vladdy: I fail to see what you mean by properly. They should always be set up "properly". It does not matter much if you have 1 or 5000. |
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| 16:40.58 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, i must say that i have another ps/2 conected to it; i forget to mention it; but i have try without the ps/2 |
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| 16:41.10 | Nwallins | jono_: it's not a module, afaict |
| 16:41.13 | Vladdy | kspath: getting automatic updates run smoothly, ldap, that kind of things |
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| 16:41.23 | kspath | Vladdy: Only, advice I would give you is plan. |
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| 16:41.32 | azeem | jono_: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=342070 |
| 16:41.37 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, it's a strange laptop man ;-) |
| 16:41.38 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: it shouldn't matter |
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| 16:41.45 | Eulex | secureboot, well, apart from using a lot of time, it'll consume lots of disk space. but sure, you could try it with the server application you use most, but I don't expect you to see much difference. |
| 16:41.50 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, so bad news ? |
| 16:41.52 | azeem | jono_: I'm not using apache2 much, but it looks like that might help you |
| 16:42.01 | tuv | abiword cannot open a .doc file it saved itself!! how dumb is that? |
| 16:42.04 | N0S3 | stew: i already installed f-prot , but it not have a f-prot daemon scanner. |
| 16:42.13 | jono_ | azeem, no worries, I fixed it now, thanks :) |
| 16:42.19 | azeem | cool |
| 16:42.20 | stew | N0S3: can you use it with amavis? |
| 16:42.33 | N0S3 | stew: yes, amavisd-new |
| 16:42.36 | secureboot | Eulex: me neither - just 10-20% isn't unnoticable, if the server is low-power |
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| 16:42.49 | kspath | Vladdy: Only, advice I would give you is plan and think(DEEPLY). |
| 16:42.52 | Vladdy | kspath: well pcs are all identical, so i can just install 1 then copy image to rest and change hostname and ip, but i want automatic updates to work without having to download 50x the same file :/ |
| 16:42.55 | stew | N0S3: oh do you mean to scan the contents of a directory periodically? |
| 16:43.10 | azeem | jono_: btw, I passed the LugRadio issue with the 2005 awards by the Hurd guys |
| 16:43.31 | Eulex | secureboot, may be. |
| 16:43.33 | kspath | Vladdy: Sounds like you need a professional Systems Admin/Eng. |
| 16:43.40 | Sonny | Hi, i have the driver for my wifi, how can I install it? I have the linux-image-2.5.15 installed |
| 16:43.47 | N0S3 | stew: no, i use amavisd-new and clamav, but i like add f-prot, but it no contain fprotd |
| 16:44.01 | Eulex | Vladdy, try apt-cacher. |
| 16:44.08 | Vladdy | Eulex: thanks :) |
| 16:44.10 | jono_ | azeem, what did they say? |
| 16:44.13 | stew | N0S3: i don't understand why you need a daemon |
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| 16:44.41 | brosioz | exists codecs divx6 to ripping for linux ? |
| 16:44.43 | azeem | well, they took acknowledged it manly I think |
| 16:44.48 | pipeline | brosioz: mencoder |
| 16:44.50 | azeem | -took |
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| 16:45.10 | N0S3 | stew: amavisd-new try to access to the port for the one which this the f-prot demon |
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| 16:45.22 | ismael | ola |
| 16:45.23 | Eulex | Vladdy, it is used to set up a cache of debs downloaded, so you only have to download it once, then all machines that connect to it would be able to get it from that box. |
| 16:45.32 | dvm1981_lpt | are dpkg awake ? |
| 16:45.37 | dvm1981_lpt | !test |
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| 16:46.00 | pipeline | Vladdy: The key words here are apt-mirror |
| 16:46.07 | Vladdy | oki |
| 16:46.09 | cisse | apt-cache is nice, i think approx is a little better |
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| 16:46.15 | ismael | en español |
| 16:46.21 | Eulex | !es |
| 16:46.24 | dvm1981_lpt | ~es |
| 16:46.25 | apt | Para los usuarios debian de habla hispana que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #debian-es -- Spanish-speaking debian users requiring support, please join #debian-es |
| 16:46.25 | pipeline | ismael: #debian-es |
| 16:46.26 | azeem | ismael: #debian-es |
| 16:46.26 | Eulex | bah |
| 16:47.12 | dvm1981_lpt | Eulex, there are some troubles with dpkg today use ~ |
| 16:47.19 | Sonny | Hi, i have the driver for my wifi, how can I install it? I have the linux-image-2.5.15 installed |
| 16:47.20 | stew | N0S3: you should be able to have amavis pipe mail through an f-prot command. why do you need 2 anyway? |
| 16:47.25 | Eulex | dvm1981, yeah, I remembered |
| 16:47.31 | dvm1981_lpt | look |
| 16:47.36 | dvm1981_lpt | ~stupid |
| 16:47.38 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, stupid is http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/bart.gif, or ibot |
| 16:47.38 | _rene_ | Sonny: which driver? |
| 16:47.48 | dvm1981_lpt | look the picture, very nice |
| 16:47.48 | cisse | Sonny: depends on the driver, you may have to get the kernel source and compile a module |
| 16:48.09 | freq47 | anyone been able to stream live media with ffmpeg and ffserver |
| 16:48.32 | dvm1981_lpt | Eulex, have you look ? i really love this pic :-) |
| 16:48.35 | Sonny | cisse: yep I have the madwifi.tar.gz |
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| 16:49.05 | dvm1981_lpt | Eulex, the keyword i ha |
| 16:49.06 | Sonny | _rene: madwifi |
| 16:49.29 | Eulex | dvm1981, yes, from fuckinggoogleit.com |
| 16:49.51 | N0S3 | stew: alone for whim ajajaj |
| 16:49.56 | dvm1981_lpt | Eulex, the keyword i have use whas really not in the ideal sircustance, sorry for that, i would just show the pic and not say that you are stupide, really not, |
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| 16:50.42 | Eulex | dvm1981, it's ok |
| 16:50.50 | stew | N0S3: huh? |
| 16:51.15 | dvm1981_lpt | Eulex, im are stupid some time; otherwise i had found another example |
| 16:51.17 | Eulex | dvm1981_lpt, not like I could find out if dpkg is online or not with google :) |
| 16:51.43 | _rene_ | Sonny: and there isn't a doc? |
| 16:51.53 | dvm1981_lpt | Eulex, yes that true |
| 16:51.59 | _rene_ | Sonny: and anyway, what's the error you get? |
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| 16:52.17 | N0S3 | stew: is clamav good? |
| 16:52.29 | Sonny | _rene_: I didnt start yet |
| 16:52.40 | stew | N0S3: yes |
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| 16:53.38 | stew | N0S3: is this for your personal use or for work? |
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| 16:54.02 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, is there a difference ? |
| 16:54.06 | N0S3 | stew: it is for my work |
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| 16:54.29 | N0S3 | stew: it is a very demanding company |
| 16:54.30 | stew | N0S3: in that case you must buy the commercial version of f-prot anyway, the commercial version comes with the daemon you are looking for |
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| 16:55.00 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, hhhmmm |
| 16:55.04 | stew | dvm1981_lpt: yes in this case, since he is trying to use non-free software |
| 16:55.32 | kspath | I am starting to think that choosing short names for commands/software is not always a good idea. Case in point. Joe Noob searching for ara would get tons of crap and not know about grep/egrep likely and perhaps not even pipe and more/less . |
| 16:56.03 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, i had used it for a time, i not use it anymore, no more M$ at home |
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| 16:56.40 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, you know many things man ;-) |
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| 16:57.11 | Benedict_XVI | hey, how can i edit fstab to mount my partitions automatically? |
| 16:57.16 | Benedict_XVI | !pasterbin |
| 16:57.20 | Benedict_XVI | !pastebin |
| 16:57.28 | dvm1981_lpt | ~pastebin |
| 16:57.29 | apt | hmm... pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
| 16:57.40 | dvm1981_lpt | Benedict_XVI, dpkg are down today |
| 16:57.51 | bbrazil | Benedict_XVI: just makr them as 'auto' - I think its the default |
| 16:57.56 | bbrazil | Benedict_XVI: *mark |
| 16:57.57 | stew | ~pastebin is also http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 16:57.58 | apt | stew: okay |
| 16:58.26 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, hhhmmm |
| 16:58.34 | dvm1981_lpt | stew, thats good |
| 16:58.42 | dvm1981_lpt | ~pastebin |
| 16:58.44 | apt | i guess pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
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| 16:59.38 | Benedict_XVI | http://pastebin.com/525868 |
| 16:59.41 | futlib | hi, can someone tell me how to get md5 and blowfish hashes with crypt(3)? |
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| 17:00.35 | stew | futlib: mkpasswd -H md5 |
| 17:00.50 | dvm1981_lpt | Benedict_XVI, change 'noauto' by 'auto' |
| 17:00.54 | stew | futlib: i don't konw if blowfish is supported though |
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| 17:00.57 | amee2k | I'm looking for a good howto about sdapd. Any recommendations? |
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| 17:01.20 | futlib | stew: ah, you were the guy helping me earlier ;) it needs to be crypt(3), since it is a C program |
| 17:01.37 | tarso | what is the best beginners' guide for Debian? |
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| 17:02.30 | dvm1981_lpt | tarso, the debian reference |
| 17:02.30 | Ugot2BkidNme | tarso a user with unix experience or none |
| 17:02.37 | stew | futlib: i don't know that crypt(3) can do blowfish, but it will do md5 so long as the salt starts with $1$ man 3 crypt |
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| 17:02.55 | tarso | Ugot2BkidNme: none |
| 17:03.38 | dvm1981_lpt | tarso, look on the website of debian for it, or 'apt-get install debian-reference-en' |
| 17:03.46 | Ugot2BkidNme | tarso I remeber there is a quick command reference card somewhere when I first started I used it |
| 17:03.51 | futlib | stew: hm ... so DES is the default with a two byte salt ... am I right? |
| 17:04.40 | Ugot2BkidNme | tarso but most commands are general linux ussage so they can be referenced at many sources debian specific information shoudl be referenced from the debian reference materials found at www.debian.org |
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| 17:04.56 | dvm1981_lpt | tarso, the old docs on the Debian website are verry well, so i suggest begin with the old unmainted and finished but usefull manuals; then go to the debian-reference |
| 17:05.17 | dvm1981_lpt | tarso, unfinished i would say |
| 17:05.18 | amee2k | err ... *slapd :) |
| 17:05.21 | tarso | dvm1981_lpt: i install debian-reference |
| 17:05.28 | tarso | dvm1981_lpt: is for beginners? |
| 17:05.30 | stew | futlib: i believe so |
| 17:05.47 | Ugot2BkidNme | anyone remeber where that quick print reference page is? the one you print fold in your pocket |
| 17:05.48 | futlib | stew: okay, so just the blowfish quest is left ... thank you again |
| 17:05.51 | dvm1981_lpt | tarso, hi is a little bit complicater, but hi is really compleet, so good for a beginer |
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| 17:06.33 | k31th | First raid device is md0 ?? |
| 17:06.37 | ccarlos | hi |
| 17:06.45 | ccarlos | I am installing debian, I have until CD 5 |
| 17:06.51 | abrotman | !refcard |
| 17:06.56 | abrotman | ~refcard |
| 17:06.58 | ccarlos | but I put apt-get install kde and it leaves the following error to me |
| 17:07.00 | abrotman | Ugot2BkidNme: moment .. |
| 17:07.04 | ccarlos | THAT PACKAGES or DEPENDENCIES NEED |
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| 17:07.10 | ccarlos | my question is... until I number of cdrom I need to install kde? |
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| 17:07.15 | abrotman | Ugot2BkidNme: http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ |
| 17:07.18 | abrotman | ~refcard is http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ |
| 17:07.19 | apt | abrotman: okay |
| 17:07.26 | abrotman | Ugot2BkidNme: that one? |
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| 17:07.34 | dvm1981_lpt | tarso, look also in the doc section with synaptic or so; and install what you need; there are really many things; also look at the 'tldp' The Linux Documentation Project |
| 17:07.37 | thingfish | ccarlos: no more than the first two. |
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| 17:07.55 | tarso | dvm1981_lpt: thanks =) |
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| 17:08.24 | Eulex | ccarlos, prefix the command you run with LANG=C and get the real english error to us. |
| 17:08.31 | offby1 | security.debian.org is awfully slow ... anyone have a prognosis? |
| 17:08.35 | dvm1981_lpt | tarso, also look what abrotman suggested, the quickref |
| 17:08.41 | ccarlos | Eulex, ok |
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| 17:09.36 | tarso | dvm1981_lpt: ok, i will look =) |
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| 17:10.41 | aarkerio | Hi! actually I have a windows system with SATA disk and I wanna install Debian on it |
| 17:10.52 | ccarlos | Eulex, hi |
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| 17:10.55 | ccarlos | Eulex, but then that happens... so that when I put apt-get install kde it gives error me |
| 17:11.02 | ccarlos | Eulex, sorry |
| 17:11.02 | zealop | Hello. I have two nics in my computer, the other is connected to my adsl modem and the other to my nat-router. I can get ip from isp but how do I "transfer" that ip to my nat-device? |
| 17:11.02 | aarkerio | could I have problems? |
| 17:11.12 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 17:11.14 | Eulex | ccarlos, the error in english is? |
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| 17:11.20 | aarkerio | will the installer find the SATA disk? |
| 17:11.23 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: is badgers available? |
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| 17:11.28 | ccarlos | Eulex, the following error |
| 17:11.31 | dvm1981_lpt | !test |
| 17:11.36 | ccarlos | Eulex, The following information may help to resolve the situation |
| 17:11.39 | dvm1981_lpt | ~test |
| 17:11.40 | apt | Test Passed! |
| 17:11.42 | ccarlos | Eulex, The following packages have unmet dependencies |
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| 17:11.52 | Eulex | ~pastebin |
| 17:11.53 | apt | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 17:11.53 | phycho | ~etch |
| 17:11.55 | apt | etch is, like, the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 17:11.58 | Eulex | ccarlos, ^^ |
| 17:12.46 | ccarlos | kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed |
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| 17:13.15 | Eulex | ccarlos, LANG=C apt-get install kde-core says? |
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| 17:13.26 | k31th | Hello... Wats the first raid device called |
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| 17:13.31 | cisse | md0 usually |
| 17:13.34 | k31th | i need to put that in grub |
| 17:13.35 | k31th | ? |
| 17:13.37 | cyanid3 | is it possible to have the debian kde stable (3.2?) and debian kde testing installed on the same computer? |
| 17:13.41 | k31th | not /boot correct |
| 17:13.49 | aarkerio | cyanid3: no |
| 17:13.51 | k31th | cisse: so /dev/md0 ? |
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| 17:14.00 | cyanid3 | didn't think so |
| 17:14.02 | cyanid3 | thanks |
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| 17:14.20 | jshriver | greetings |
| 17:14.25 | bbrazil | cyanid3: you *could* try a chroot. see debootstrap |
| 17:14.27 | mc__ | hi, i have a raid0 with /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1, and I want to install grub from my /dev/hda1, anyone knows how to do it? |
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| 17:14.39 | jshriver | anyone here know how well a MSI FX 5200 AGP will work under linux and how to setup Video out? |
| 17:14.44 | cyanid3 | i'm not that desparate |
| 17:14.49 | ccarlos | Eulex, it leaves the same error... but it mentions other dependencies to me |
| 17:14.56 | cisse | jshiver: google your card on xorg |
| 17:14.56 | cyanid3 | i'm having problems with kde testing |
| 17:15.09 | cyanid3 | i think that i'll just remove it and put kde stable back on |
| 17:15.17 | k31th | cisse: was /dev/md0 |
| 17:15.19 | Eulex | ccarlos, trace it to the source, to see what package is causing it. |
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| 17:15.30 | cyanid3 | would apt-get --purge remove kdebase do the trick? |
| 17:15.42 | cyanid3 | that's the kde package that i installed |
| 17:15.43 | cisse | k31th: hrmmm let me check one of my raid's |
| 17:15.54 | thingfish | ~tell cyanid3 about remove kde |
| 17:16.03 | jshriver | have read reviews that the card works nicely... but not sure about video out |
| 17:16.04 | jshriver | thanks |
| 17:16.17 | jshriver | I'm running XFree86.. not xorg |
| 17:16.20 | ccarlos | Eulex, to cdrom from the 1 to the 5, it adds with apt-cdrom add |
| 17:16.23 | cisse | k31th: yeah on my raid1 bootables i have kernel /boot/vmlinuz... root=/dev/md0 |
| 17:16.24 | jshriver | btw what's the diff? |
| 17:16.29 | Nwallins | since tcpflow's ./configure refuses to believe that /usr/lib/libpcap.so.* exists, i am thinking about compiling libpcap in /usr/src ... will `make install` conflict with my libpcap debian package? |
| 17:16.46 | k31th | cisse: it booted... |
| 17:16.47 | cisse | jshriver: xorg is a better imho, the project split due to licensing concerns a year or two back |
| 17:16.47 | k31th | :D |
| 17:17.04 | cisse | Nwallins: does /usr/lib/libpcap.so* exist ? |
| 17:17.08 | Nwallins | yes |
| 17:17.11 | dvm1981_lpt | ~tell cyanid3 -about remove kde |
| 17:17.17 | cisse | funky shit |
| 17:17.25 | Nwallins | it's annoying as hell ;) |
| 17:17.27 | cisse | why are you compiling tcpflow instead of apt-getting it ? |
| 17:17.35 | Nwallins | i have to hack the src for my needs |
| 17:17.40 | stew | jshriver: currently there is very little difference between xorg an xfree, esp. with regards to debian's pacakges and the drivers therin |
| 17:17.43 | Nwallins | simple really.. add a break; to a switch |
| 17:17.44 | cisse | do you did apt-get source tcpflow ? |
| 17:17.45 | stew | therein |
| 17:17.56 | Nwallins | cisse: no.. heh |
| 17:17.57 | Eulex | ccarlos, try installing any of the dependencies apt-get install kde-core talked about. the try to install any of the dependencies it couldn't install because of, until you find the source of the problem. |
| 17:18.02 | Nwallins | cisse: i'll try that |
| 17:18.05 | cisse | Nwallins: i recommend that and then patching it to you needs |
| 17:18.14 | cisse | may sidestep this seemlingly ridiculous issue |
| 17:18.15 | stew | ccarlos: can you put your sources.list somewhere we could see it? |
| 17:18.17 | Nwallins | cisse: cool, thanks |
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| 17:19.27 | Nwallins | the internap mirror appears to be down. that was always a fast repo for me |
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| 17:19.40 | ccarlos | Eulex, that I am doing.... but one does not assume that apt-get installed the dependencies? |
| 17:20.07 | thd_ | An etch update to the multi-version/multi-cluster PostgreSQL architecture that is now the PostgresSQL architecture for etch was unable to configure any postgres packages when it kept promting me for an unknown password. I reinstalled the postgres packages when my cluster would not start. How can I now start my PostgresSQL 7.4 cluster? |
| 17:20.13 | thd_ | If I connect my data cluster with a data symlink from /etc/postgresql/7.4/main to the cluster data, Postgres hangs without an error message when attempting to start the cluster but asks for an unknown password. Why would running /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 prompt for a password as Starting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server: main:Password: ? |
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| 17:20.17 | Eulex | ccarlos, no it didn't. there's a conflict somewhere. you gotta find it. |
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| 17:21.50 | starfishy | hm |
| 17:22.06 | starfishy | The pope uses debian? |
| 17:22.06 | abrotman | thd_: did you check the bts ? |
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| 17:22.09 | abrotman | ~bts |
| 17:22.10 | apt | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug |
| 17:22.10 | starfishy | :) |
| 17:22.49 | thd_ | abrotman: yes nothing there about this problem |
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| 17:22.56 | mc__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:23.12 | Nwallins | cisse: where does apt-get source put the source? and do i have to configure,make,make install> |
| 17:23.14 | Nwallins | ? |
| 17:23.40 | abrotman | thd_: i wonder if it's a config issue with one of the control files |
| 17:23.41 | starfishy | mc: why would you want to install grub in the boot sector of a partition? |
| 17:23.45 | starfishy | just curious |
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| 17:23.57 | cisse | Nwallins: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html |
| 17:24.04 | Nwallins | thanks |
| 17:24.51 | thd_ | abrotman: configure had no problems after a purge and reinstall. |
| 17:25.09 | abrotman | thd_: right .. but it could still be a "security" setting |
| 17:25.26 | jshriver | xorg.org seems down.. anywhere else I can get info on video out and if so how to set it up. Pondering buying the card today, but want to make sure it's possible before buying |
| 17:25.36 | jshriver | wanting to build a mythbox |
| 17:25.37 | abrotman | x.org maybe? |
| 17:25.45 | jshriver | let me try.. |
| 17:26.29 | cisse | jshiver: gentoo wiki has some good docs on xorg |
| 17:26.36 | jshriver | x.org no results for FX 5200 AGP or MSI FX 5200 AGP |
| 17:26.41 | stew | jshriver: you might ask in #mythtv-users if people have experience with the card |
| 17:26.46 | jshriver | ok thanks :) |
| 17:26.47 | thd_ | abrotman: I will try resetting the postgres password |
| 17:27.58 | Benedict_XVI | every time iu edit fstab when i restart it goes back to the way it was |
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| 17:28.55 | Aronofsky | hi, id like ti use grep to get get all the lines that do not contain a specific word, i know that i got to use a regular experssion but i dont find it , any specialist ? |
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| 17:29.11 | cahoot | -v? |
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| 17:29.55 | Yokalosh | i just installed mmpython so that i could install freevo, however the freevo installer says that mmpython is not installed, how can i tell it where to look for mmpython |
| 17:30.04 | foomanf | How can i change the Linux clock with the date command from UTC to EST? |
| 17:30.05 | war92 | Anyone here ever do an apt-get update OR apt-get upgrade and the apt hangs? |
| 17:30.20 | war92 | using HTTP mirrors |
| 17:30.31 | Aronofsky | cahoot, ho yeah even simplier , thx |
| 17:30.55 | Sonny | I'm tryin to install libgtk2.0-dev, libglib2.0-dev and libglade2-dev ,but it tells me that "The following packages have unmet dependencies" |
| 17:31.13 | war92 | Sonny: easy |
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| 17:31.24 | war92 | Sonny: 601] A certain package is not upgrading, how do I find out what is wrong? apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade |
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| 17:31.38 | war92 | Sonny: or in your case, apt-get install blah |
| 17:31.59 | Sonny | war92, what is blah? |
| 17:32.13 | dvm1981_lpt | blah blah blah ? |
| 17:32.28 | ricochet | could someone help me figure out why ping yahoo.com works, but ping mirrors.kernel.org results in an "unknown host" message? |
| 17:32.29 | dvm1981_lpt | <package> |
| 17:32.30 | war92 | Sonny: the pkg you are trying to install |
| 17:32.55 | Sonny | war92, I'm tryin to install these 3 packages |
| 17:33.07 | jshriver | thanks #mythtv-usres has been helpful :) |
| 17:33.17 | k31th | Are there any raid monitoring tools ? |
| 17:33.30 | war92 | Sonny: so install it with how I said |
| 17:33.30 | cahoot | ricochet: can't reproduce your error |
| 17:33.43 | dvm1981_lpt | ricochet, the both here works |
| 17:33.53 | ricochet | hm. |
| 17:33.54 | stew | ricochet: what happens when you run "nslookup mirrors.kernel.org 217.75.109.220" |
| 17:34.28 | ricochet | stew, works |
| 17:34.31 | war92 | Stereo: COOL |
| 17:34.36 | Sonny | war92, apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade ??? I dont understand that |
| 17:34.37 | war92 | Stew, wasn't aware of that syntax :) |
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| 17:34.53 | war92 | Sonny: do i have to spell it out for you? apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes install libgtk2.0-dev, libglib2.0-dev and libglade2-dev |
| 17:35.01 | ricochet | stew, doesnt work w/o the IP |
| 17:35.28 | stew | ricochet: then your nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf is broken |
| 17:35.40 | Sonny | war92, ok thanks, dont upset body..... |
| 17:36.04 | war92 | np. |
| 17:36.14 | stew | ricochet: 217.75.109.220 is one of the kernel.org nameservers, so that command was directly querying it instead of going through your nameservers |
| 17:36.17 | foomanf | How can i change from UTC to localtime -- date reports UTC being used... |
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| 17:36.48 | Sonny | war92, Error= bronek packages |
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| 17:37.48 | cahoot | foomanf: look in /etc/default/rcS |
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| 17:38.47 | yoo | Hi ! |
| 17:38.47 | Sonny | war92, Error= broken packages |
| 17:38.53 | ricochet | stew, ok thanks - looks like my hosting company agrees its their nameserver's problem. |
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| 17:39.08 | yoo | Is there a command to know which librairies depend a packet ? |
| 17:39.47 | stew | yoo: "apt-cache depends package" will show you what a pacakge depend on, "apt-cache rdepends pacakge" shows which pacakge depend on it |
| 17:40.03 | yoo | oh ! |
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| 17:40.30 | yoo | it's a packet that i install by dpkg -i not by apt-get install |
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| 17:40.43 | yoo | it's a non official packet |
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| 17:41.02 | yoo | just a .deb that i build with a .tar |
| 17:42.04 | loggygreg | yoo: ldd your bin or ldd your lib and dlocate what you have found |
| 17:42.24 | yoo | ok |
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| 17:45.02 | Sonny | any other idea to solve my problem with Broken packages? |
| 17:45.21 | loggygreg | is there an equivalent of dlocate (from another package) ? |
| 17:45.24 | keherman | Hey guys , any tips for deplying Debian in a corporate environment? Like kickstart type setups or cloning of machines to 500+ desktops? |
| 17:45.37 | stew | Sonny: /msg dpkg bat |
| 17:45.48 | keherman | trying to phase out Red Hat and their licensing gouging! |
| 17:46.07 | stew | loggygreg: apt-file? |
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| 17:46.20 | loggygreg | stew: thanks |
| 17:46.43 | stew | keherman: /msg dpkg fai |
| 17:47.02 | stew | oh is dpkg still gone? |
| 17:47.02 | Xenguy | keherman: I have seen a package called FAI (fully automatic install)... |
| 17:47.03 | stew | Sonny: http://dpkg.vireo.org/bat |
| 17:47.09 | Xenguy | keherman: but never used it |
| 17:47.12 | stew | keherman: http://dpkg.vireo.org/fai |
| 17:47.21 | stew | loggygreg: http://dpkg.vireo.org/apt-file |
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| 17:48.04 | keherman | this looks nice!@ |
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| 17:48.09 | tahorg | hi, is there any repository for sarge to get a newer subvesrion ? |
| 17:48.16 | yoo | loggygreg, |
| 17:48.16 | tahorg | ctrl-t |
| 17:48.20 | keherman | stew, Xenguy thanks! |
| 17:48.21 | yoo | yoo@simpson:~$ ldd dvdshrink |
| 17:48.24 | yoo | ldd: ./dvdshrink: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
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| 17:48.45 | war92 | Sonny: then you need to fix the broke packages |
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| 17:49.41 | loggygreg | yoo: ldd full path (/usr/bin/dvdshrink) |
| 17:49.46 | Xenguy | keherman: good luck - I'm interested in how this tool looks to you BTW |
| 17:49.49 | yoo | sorry |
| 17:49.51 | yoo | ok |
| 17:49.53 | yoo | thanks |
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| 17:50.30 | Sonny | stew, should I put the packages that I want to install in this web page? |
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| 17:52.47 | stew | Sonny: put the output of "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2 pkg3" and the output of "apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 pkg3" into a pastebin |
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| 17:53.02 | stew | Sonny: might as well add your sources.list while you are at it |
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| 17:53.45 | NOthsouth | hello, this message do not stop apear in all my terminals!! Message from syslogd@osho at Fri Jan 27 15:53:14 2006 ... |
| 17:53.46 | NOthsouth | osho kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold |
| 17:53.55 | NOthsouth | how can I stop it ?? or fix it ? |
| 17:53.57 | Sonny | stew, you mean to paste it in flood? |
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| 17:54.05 | cisse | NOthsouth: your cpu is overheating |
| 17:54.20 | NOthsouth | cisse, ? |
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| 17:54.33 | cisse | your processor |
| 17:54.35 | cisse | is running too hot |
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| 17:54.37 | starshine | good source for a debian-sid based netinst disc (iX86) ? |
| 17:54.39 | cisse | turn your computer off and figure out wh |
| 17:54.46 | cisse | starshine: debian.org |
| 17:54.54 | stew | Sonny: no i meant pastebin.com or channels.debian.net/paste or something |
| 17:55.06 | starshine | cisse: cdimages.debian.org has etch netinst, I'm looking for sid. |
| 17:55.16 | cisse | http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 17:55.17 | NOthsouth | cisse, but al always receive this message |
| 17:55.30 | cisse | NOthsouth: then your heatsink is broken, or the cpu fan died |
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| 17:56.20 | NOthsouth | cisse, let me check |
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| 17:56.27 | NOthsouth | can it burn my processor ? |
| 17:56.37 | starshine | NOthsouth: it is possible the thermal paste for your heatsink was applied improperly? |
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| 17:57.09 | NOthsouth | starshine, maybe |
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| 17:57.18 | Kurga | stew: You helped me yesterday, had some problems with my kernel, but the problem now is that I can't find a place to download linux-image-2.6.12-1-386.deb "packages.debian.org is down at the moment" Other places where I can download it? |
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| 17:59.59 | starfishy | kurga: aptitude install linux-image-2.6.12-1-386.deb |
| 18:00.18 | cahoot | skip the .deb |
| 18:00.23 | MorteM | hi all |
| 18:00.23 | stew | Kurga: 2.6.12 might be gone, do you see 2.6.14? |
| 18:00.24 | Sonny | stew, ok I did it |
| 18:00.35 | stew | Sonny: what is the url? |
| 18:00.49 | Sonny | http://pastebin.com/525971 |
| 18:01.24 | Sonny | stew, did you get it? |
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| 18:01.48 | Kurga | starfishy: Can't use that one http://pastebin.ca/38722 |
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| 18:03.14 | Kurga | stew: Then I have to compile my own kernel, right? |
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| 18:04.46 | Kurga | stew: I can find 2.6.12 but can't download because packages.debian.org is down |
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| 18:05.41 | visik7 | hi |
| 18:05.47 | visik7 | is there a dpkg log analyzer ? |
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| 18:06.01 | strider | Kurga: try directly going to the repository using your web browser. Check under pool |
| 18:06.25 | Kurga | strider: I'll try |
| 18:06.45 | strider | Kurga: like here ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6 |
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| 18:07.43 | Sonny | stew, how is it going ? |
| 18:07.46 | INIT07 | No NFS server available giving up while booting from diskless clients any suggestions? |
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| 18:08.32 | starfishy | kurga: or do an aptitude remove udev, then install the kernel, reboot and install udev again |
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| 18:08.39 | strider | Kurga: linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 is in testing ( acc to apt-cache policy ) |
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| 18:08.51 | stew | Kurga: ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ |
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| 18:09.27 | stew | Sonny: can you also show the output of apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0 libpango1.0-dev |
| 18:09.30 | bighorn | is there a current howto for boot splash image with grub? |
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| 18:09.37 | stew | Sonny: i don't know why it would want to install the testing version of libglib2 |
| 18:09.43 | Kurga | My problem is that I can't do any of the suggestions apt-get remove fails, apt-get install fails apt-get dist-upgrade fails |
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| 18:10.17 | stew | Kurga: you can download 2.6.12 or 2.6.15 kernel from that link i gave you and dpkg -i it |
| 18:10.18 | starfishy | you could try dpkg -r |
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| 18:11.10 | starfishy | and if bad comes to worst, build your own kernel and install it without apt/dpkg, reboot, do the upgrade and then build a kernel-package |
| 18:11.23 | Sonny | stew, because I need gtk: "Unable to find the GTK+ installation." |
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| 18:11.35 | indian | hi |
| 18:11.35 | samo_ | hi all, can anyone tell me the difference between the two following msgs i get after doing an apt-get -s : 1 - "depends .... is to be installed" 2- "depends .... but it is not installable" 3- "depends .... but it is not going to be installed" ? cam amyone help me with all this ? |
| 18:11.58 | stew | Sonny: yes, but i don't know why your apt is trying to install the testing version instead of the stable version, which is why i want to see policy on libglib2.0-0 |
| 18:12.32 | Sonny | stew, maybe because I'm using the kernel-2.6.15 in sarge? |
| 18:12.42 | stew | samo_: not installable == that version isn't availabe, not going to be installed == it is availabe but its dependencies cannot be satisfied |
| 18:12.46 | starfishy | samo: take the messages literally. if it says is not going to be installed, just install it manually and then do the install again |
| 18:12.49 | stew | Sonny: no |
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| 18:13.18 | Kurga | stew: wich of the kernels are testing and wich one should I download: kernel-image, linux 2.6.xx |
| 18:13.27 | samo_ | stew : thanks, how can a package be not installable ? |
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| 18:14.00 | Kurga | stew: sorry found it myself |
| 18:14.23 | samo_ | thanks starfishy, so the ones that are "not going to be installed" should be installed manaually |
| 18:14.36 | phycho | ~woody |
| 18:14.41 | apt | rumour has it, woody is the current stable release of Debian, version 3.0, released July 19, 2002. Ask me about "potato->woody" or "woody install guide". |
| 18:14.41 | starfishy | samo: at least thats what i do |
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| 18:14.52 | phycho | ty |
| 18:14.56 | stew | Kurga: 2.6.12 is testing |
| 18:14.57 | starfishy | if they say 'not installable' it means that the dependencies are somehow messed up |
| 18:15.10 | starfishy | if the package itself is missing it says 'not available' IIRC |
| 18:15.13 | stew | samo_: if its not provided by any mirror in your sources.list |
| 18:15.20 | Sonny | stew, so how can I solve my problem? |
| 18:15.27 | starfishy | btw, that can happen if your package list has not been upgraded |
| 18:15.43 | stew | Sonny: by figuring out why it wants to install libglib2 from testing |
| 18:15.53 | stew | Sonny: which i'm offing to help you with if you provide me with more information |
| 18:15.55 | samo_ | ok , i understand better now , thanks |
| 18:15.59 | indian | after i installed xorg, how can i initialize the graphic display? can anybody help me? |
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| 18:16.41 | starfishy | indian: startx |
| 18:16.42 | strider | indian: type startx |
| 18:16.54 | indian | it doesn't work |
| 18:16.54 | ludovicus | /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 18:16.58 | ludovicus | :) |
| 18:16.58 | strider | or install gdm or kdm if you want |
| 18:17.21 | Kurga | I have downloaded this one, where should I place it? linux-image-2.6-486_2.6.15-3_i386.deb |
| 18:17.22 | starfishy | or even better: aptitude install <displaymanagerofchoice && /etc/init.d/<displaymanagerofchoice> start |
| 18:17.33 | Denyerec | Does the Gnome v KDE flamewar rage in here often ? |
| 18:17.33 | starfishy | kurga: doesnt matter |
| 18:17.34 | stew | Sonny: did you install some packages from testing onto this machine? |
| 18:17.44 | starfishy | just give the correct path when doing the dpkg -i |
| 18:17.47 | stew | Sonny: i just noticed that your sources.list has commented out lines from testing and unstable |
| 18:17.48 | indian | thanks |
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| 18:18.01 | thingfish | Denyerec: that sort of discussion is discouraged here. |
| 18:18.10 | Denyerec | Thought it might be |
| 18:18.16 | starfishy | flamewars are lame |
| 18:18.17 | Denyerec | It's rarely productive |
| 18:18.24 | resiak | s/rarely/never |
| 18:18.28 | Denyerec | :) |
| 18:18.30 | vicarious | where would be the best place to look for freelance debian tech support people? |
| 18:18.36 | Denyerec | Which way do the majority of deb. user s lean ? |
| 18:18.36 | starfishy | linux is about choice and no one can tell you what choice you are supposed to make |
| 18:18.49 | starfishy | vicarious: what area are you in? |
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| 18:18.53 | Denyerec | If there's even evidence of that |
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| 18:19.03 | resiak | ~popcon |
| 18:19.05 | apt | methinks popcon is rumour has it, popularity contest is http://popcon.debian.org/, or install popularity-contest to take part |
| 18:19.05 | resiak | :( |
| 18:19.07 | starfishy | i lean the way i find best for me |
| 18:19.10 | starfishy | currently thats kde |
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| 18:19.30 | Sonny | stew, yep the linux-image-2.6.12-1-smp and the linux-image-2.6.15-1-smp |
| 18:19.33 | bighorn | how to configure boot splashimage |
| 18:19.35 | starfishy | but it is KDE _for_me_, thats no indication that KDE is better |
| 18:19.40 | vicarious | I am in seattle, but I am looking to create a remote tech support system for NX server desktops for a debian cluster. |
| 18:19.55 | starfishy | bighorn: patch the kernel, install the bootsplash packages and go |
| 18:20.03 | strider | bighorn: an easy way would be to get splashy |
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| 18:20.22 | stew | Sonny: i'm guessing that you also got libglib2.0 but i cannot tell until you tell me |
| 18:20.24 | LucianSolaris | anyone home here? |
| 18:20.25 | abrotman | splashy is only in sid afaik |
| 18:20.28 | Kurga | ok now I recive this error http://pastebin.ca/38815 |
| 18:20.30 | starfishy | vicarious: what kind of knowledge level are you talking? |
| 18:20.34 | starfishy | that will largely influence the price |
| 18:20.46 | stew | abrotman: there are backports http://dpkg.vireo.org/splashy |
| 18:20.56 | bighorn | is splashy a package? my splash image shows up only when grub's boot menu appears then goes away. |
| 18:20.57 | abrotman | vicarious: there's a whole list |
| 18:21.12 | vicarious | no way at $250/hr |
| 18:21.14 | starfishy | bootsplash.de has a debian repository that is available for all distros |
| 18:21.19 | strider | abrotman: not even in sid. It's in experimental ( alioth) |
| 18:21.20 | LucianSolaris | [all] I need to know if someone has experience in getting the ATI IXP chipset on an HP Pavilion zv5000 and drivers to work together on debian. The card on this chipset is an ATI Radeon Mobility 9000/9100 IGP |
| 18:21.21 | abrotman | vicarious: http://www.us.debian.org/consultants/ |
| 18:21.33 | stew | Kurga: 2.6 is just a metapackage that depends on 2.6.12-1 you need to get 2.6.12-1 directly |
| 18:21.53 | Kurga | where can I find that one? |
| 18:21.53 | abrotman | i thought splashy had made it into sid |
| 18:22.05 | Sonny | stew, I see it in my aptitude with pBA, and in red. |
| 18:22.09 | LucianSolaris | [all] last time i tried debian, i got x to use the fglrx opengl setting instead of mesa, and every time x tried to display opengl, my entire system (except the mouse) would lock |
| 18:22.12 | vicarious | looking for freelancers to get $1.00 min, for remote support to general desktop users, install and set up mostly |
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| 18:22.41 | ginot | hi! |
| 18:22.43 | vicarious | thank you for the link TLDP had! a good one, but all the links are out of date. Thanks again |
| 18:22.51 | Sonny | stew, the dependencies of libglib2.0-dev are not satisfied |
| 18:22.58 | LucianSolaris | [all] the last time i tried was over a year ago |
| 18:23.09 | LucianSolaris | [all] is this the debian help channel? |
| 18:23.15 | stew | Sonny: yes, we've established that long ago |
| 18:23.19 | abrotman | stop with the fucking [all] thing .. it's annoying as shit |
| 18:23.45 | abrotman | !ati debsw |
| 18:23.46 | Sonny | stew, you want to know if I have this package installed? |
| 18:23.47 | abrotman | !ati debs |
| 18:23.48 | abrotman | bah |
| 18:23.59 | abrotman | http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 18:24.16 | stew | 13:10 < stew> Sonny: can you also show the output of apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0 libpango1.0-dev |
| 18:24.26 | Sonny | ok |
| 18:24.31 | stew | Sonny: i've asked you a couple of times for that, add libc6 to that list |
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| 18:25.34 | LucianSolaris | [abrotman] are these packages in sid? |
| 18:25.43 | Sonny | stew, there you go: http://pastebin.com/526020 |
| 18:26.11 | stew | Sonny: you installed libglib2 from testing |
| 18:26.12 | abrotman | no |
| 18:26.18 | abrotman | apt-cache search ati would tell you |
| 18:26.23 | abrotman | oh wait .. maybe they did enter |
| 18:26.27 | stew | Sonny: that is your problem, you have a bunch of testing packages installed on your stable system which is a nono |
| 18:26.49 | abrotman | ~info fglrx-driver sid |
| 18:26.53 | Sonny | stew, http://pastebin.com/526023 |
| 18:27.14 | stew | Sonny: you aren't running stable, you are running testing |
| 18:27.36 | Sonny | stew. wow!! so I have to do a dist upgrade ? |
| 18:27.41 | Kurga | stew: where can I get 2.6.12-1, as I said I'm new, :-) |
| 18:27.54 | stew | Sonny: the fact that you are running libc6 from testing instead of stable means that your options are to fully upgrade to testing, or reinstall stable |
| 18:28.06 | strider | Kurga: are you running testing? |
| 18:28.11 | stew | 13:10 < stew> Kurga: ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ |
| 18:28.22 | Kurga | I think, as far as I know |
| 18:28.34 | Sonny | stew, what do you recommend me? |
| 18:29.22 | stew | Sonny: http://dpkg.vireo.org/stable-%3Etesting http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=testing+security |
| 18:29.36 | LucianSolaris | [abrotman] are you in here alot? i haven't even installed it yet, i'm still in windows, the only thing keeping me in windows needs OpenGL support (i've gotten it to work in WINE, so that's set) |
| 18:29.45 | abrotman | !d-i LucianSolaris |
| 18:29.49 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 18:29.59 | abrotman | debian.org/releases/sarge/ should have a link |
| 18:30.00 | LucianSolaris | wtf is "!d-i" |
| 18:30.02 | Kurga | stew: I followd your link, but I don't know wich one, is it the linux-2.6_2.6.12.orig.tar.gz file |
| 18:30.09 | resiak | abrotman: I've already hailed don |
| 18:30.09 | abrotman | ~d-i |
| 18:30.11 | apt | [d-i] Debian-Installer The Debian-Installer is the replacement for the aging "boot-floppies" installation system used in all previous versions of debian. The Debian Installer will be the installer for future versions of Debian, beginning with sarge. It has been designed to be more modular, easier to use, and more extensible than the old installation system. ... |
| 18:30.13 | LucianSolaris | i'm lookin' at etch |
| 18:30.13 | resiak | LucianSolaris: It should be a bot trigger |
| 18:30.13 | LucianSolaris | not sarge |
| 18:30.14 | abrotman | resiak: along with a bazillion other people |
| 18:30.20 | abrotman | resiak: i asked fhffhqvb for badgers |
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| 18:30.51 | abrotman | LucianSolaris: http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 18:30.52 | resiak | Huh, fhffhqvb still hangs out here. |
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| 18:30.59 | resiak | abrotman: |
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| 18:31.02 | LucianSolaris | is an etch network install possible (last time i tried etch, it didn't work, it was right when sarge went stable) |
| 18:31.02 | resiak | ~dpkg factoid d-i |
| 18:31.03 | apt | http://dpkg.vireo.org/d-i |
| 18:31.07 | LucianSolaris | i'll look at that, brb |
| 18:31.35 | stew | Kurga: ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.12-1-386_2.6.12-10_i386.deb |
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| 18:32.02 | Sonny | stew, thanks a lot man... I think I go for the dist upgrade |
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| 18:32.17 | LucianSolaris | thx for pointers guys |
| 18:32.31 | LucianSolaris | i'll definitely be back in here probably in like 5-6 hours (backup time!) |
| 18:32.31 | Kurga | stew: thank you |
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| 18:33.36 | sysforce | please, people, i updated my sarge to testing, and when i compiled a new kernel i do not obtain more this message: |
| 18:33.36 | sysforce | Warning: You are using the initrd option, that may not work unless you have applied the initrd cramfs patch to.... |
| 18:33.36 | sysforce | why this happens? |
| 18:33.57 | stew | sysforce: which kernel version? |
| 18:34.12 | abrotman | resiak: rot13 sussudio |
| 18:34.21 | resiak | abrotman: Yes I _know_ |
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| 18:34.29 | abrotman | oh ok |
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| 18:34.36 | eeyore- | sysforce: are you using debian kernel source? |
| 18:34.37 | abrotman | resiak: here .. but quiet |
| 18:34.43 | resiak | k |
| 18:34.56 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: make more movie posters! |
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| 18:35.58 | odla | abrotman: i just bought my traps to catch some otters! |
| 18:36.12 | abrotman | you cruel fuck! |
| 18:36.23 | sysforce | eeyore-: yes, debian kernel source |
| 18:36.37 | abrotman | odla: didn't the school buy them? |
| 18:36.51 | sysforce | eeyore-: i need to modify some patch or something like that?! |
| 18:37.04 | odla | abrotman: yeah...but i initially purchased them and will pay for them with a grant |
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| 18:37.29 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 18:37.36 | MorteM | hi, what's the version n# of sid ? |
| 18:37.46 | resiak | MorteM: infinite! |
| 18:37.48 | sysforce | stew: 2.6.14 debian version |
| 18:37.52 | Nwallins | i am trying to build a patched package of tcpflow, which depends on libpcap, which I have installed using apt-get install. however, i get this error: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>> 3.0.0) libpcap-dev automake1.7 |
| 18:37.53 | stew | sysforce: then don't worry about it, the cramfs patch is now in the mainline kernel |
| 18:38.09 | MorteM | resiak: i want to dl it |
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| 18:38.28 | resiak | MorteM: Don't do that |
| 18:38.30 | resiak | ~sid faq |
| 18:38.31 | apt | i heard sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
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| 18:38.45 | Kurga | Ok now I have downloaded it, and I recive this error http://pastebin.ca/38819 |
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| 18:39.04 | LucianSolaris | the debian installer... is that for stable or testing? |
| 18:39.13 | paueas | hey how do you do an scp copy but only replace older files? |
| 18:39.23 | LucianSolaris | nvm |
| 18:39.26 | LucianSolaris | it's for etch |
| 18:39.29 | MorteM | when what should i download ? |
| 18:39.32 | phycho | ~unstable |
| 18:39.34 | apt | rumour has it, unstable is http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l |
| 18:39.52 | phycho | what is the name for unstable in debian |
| 18:39.56 | Nwallins | sid |
| 18:39.59 | phycho | k ty |
| 18:40.06 | resiak | MorteM: Sarge. |
| 18:40.15 | phycho | no cd releases? ;/ |
| 18:40.25 | phycho | i need basedebs.tar |
| 18:40.27 | MorteM | resiak: then upgrade ? |
| 18:40.29 | Nwallins | can anyone help a first-timer build a source package? i am getting a dependency error |
| 18:40.39 | resiak | MorteM: No, don't upgrade |
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| 18:40.45 | resiak | MorteM: http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 18:41.04 | resiak | MorteM: Read http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 18:41.09 | stew | Kurga: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/module-init-tools/module-init-tools_3.2.2-1_i386.deb |
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| 18:41.23 | MorteM | Thanks resiak |
| 18:41.28 | sysforce | stew: but when i install this kernel i got an error message... Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.14-mediacenter-samuel2 on running kernel 2.6.14mediacentercyrix in /usr/sbin/mkinitrd /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs |
| 18:41.28 | sysforce | dpkg: erro processando kernel-image-2.6.14-mediacenter-samuel2 (--install): |
| 18:41.28 | sysforce | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.33 | LucianSolaris | [all] does etch come with xfree86 or x.org, and what version of kde? |
| 18:41.49 | resiak | LucianSolaris: Stop with the [all] stuff. It's really annoying. |
| 18:42.28 | resiak | LucianSolaris: Etch has X.org, and KDE 3.4 until 3.5 trickles in from Sid which it will probably do soonish |
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| 18:42.52 | LucianSolaris | [resiak] ok, can i grab 3.5 before it trickles, and is it a painless process? |
| 18:42.53 | phycho | ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/disks-i386/base-images-current/basedebs.tar |
| 18:42.57 | phycho | where can i get that file |
| 18:42.59 | phycho | for etch |
| 18:43.03 | phycho | i can only find it for woody |
| 18:43.06 | resiak | LucianSolaris: Don't do that unless you know how. http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 18:43.29 | tyler | is dillo the lightest browser(graphical) for linux? |
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| 18:43.43 | resiak | tyler: lynks2 -g ! |
| 18:44.33 | starfishy | lucian: i am running 3.5 from alioth on unstable |
| 18:44.42 | stew | sysforce: if you run udev install initramfs-toos, if you don't install yaird |
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| 18:44.49 | Nwallins | cisse: ping |
| 18:44.55 | starfishy | if you are experienced you may want to try, but expect occasional breakage |
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| 18:45.18 | fhffhqvb | !test |
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| 18:45.24 | blondie | fail |
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| 18:45.27 | badgers | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of fhffhqvb) |
| 18:45.34 | stew | @wb |
| 18:45.48 | sysforce | stew: sorry, i didnt understood |
| 18:45.48 | fhffhqvb | !test |
| 18:45.49 | badgers | Sorry, fhffhqvb, I didn't get your test. |
| 18:46.13 | strider | starfishy: any difference between alioth's KDE and Sid's? |
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| 18:46.44 | _rene_ | strider: alioths one is obsolete |
| 18:47.00 | _rene_ | strider: use sids. if you use sid of course... |
| 18:47.03 | resiak | !fhffhqvb++ |
| 18:47.23 | stew | sysforce: install yaird |
| 18:47.25 | strider | i use Sid's. just noticed starfishy's comments about alioth |
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| 18:47.54 | sysforce | stew: ok, installed |
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| 18:50.00 | stew | sysforce: now the kernel installation should work |
| 18:50.10 | Nwallins | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html this shows how to build packages using `fakeroot`... i am about to install it but it has 2 grave bugs that don't look very good |
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| 18:51.12 | stew | Nwallins: what does? fakeroot? |
| 18:51.17 | Nwallins | yes |
| 18:51.20 | stew | Nwallins: no it doesn't |
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| 18:51.40 | Nwallins | grave bugs of fakeroot (-> 1.5.6) <done> #316307 - fakeroot: fakeroot execs interactive /bin/sh #316308 - fakeroot scripts do not invoke shell correctly |
| 18:51.42 | stew | Nwallins: oh, in testing? maybe |
| 18:51.43 | sysforce | stew: only for curiosity, why cramfs its not working? |
| 18:51.47 | Nwallins | stew: yes |
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| 18:52.11 | stew | sysforce: i don't know |
| 18:52.20 | zarchne | I thought I read about a way to reconstitute a .deb from installed software; what is the name of the tool or what should I search for? |
| 18:52.21 | stew | Nwallins: you can install the unstable version which has those fixed if you prefer |
| 18:52.32 | MorteM | resiak: i'm downloading the netinst |
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| 18:52.45 | Nwallins | stew: hmmm.. maybe i will install it for just now and remove it |
| 18:52.45 | newbie | I keep clearing out my www directory, and each time, I see my disk usage for the drive climbing back to 100% -- how do I find out what is filling up all my freespace? |
| 18:52.47 | londonboi2k3 | Hi guys, I am looking for some eye candy on my unstable system, does anyone know any good sites I can read up on and/or howtos? |
| 18:53.06 | Nwallins | londonboi2k3: i heard the enlightenment project was revitalized |
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| 18:53.40 | zarchne | newbie: that is faq 1.2 |
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| 18:53.47 | londonboi2k3 | Nwallins, Thanks, def look in to that, alsio I was thinking more along the lines of gnome eye candy too |
| 18:54.03 | newbie | zarchne: sorry, what do you mean? |
| 18:54.32 | abrotman | londonboi2k3: for gnome/kde ? |
| 18:54.33 | zarchne | newbie: read the faq for the channel. |
| 18:54.41 | londonboi2k3 | abrotman, for gnome mate |
| 18:54.46 | abrotman | http://art.gnome.org/ |
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| 18:55.02 | londonboi2k3 | pref with xcompmgr or something along those lines, |
| 18:55.13 | Sonny | can someboy using etch can show me his/her sources.list? |
| 18:55.14 | KerPlunk | Anyone know a good website for buying college books from India or Russia or something like that, cheaper then prices from American websites?..but then they also ship to america. |
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| 18:55.21 | londonboi2k3 | been hearing gnome can have vista ish effects so wanna try some out myself |
| 18:55.44 | newbie | zarchne: here, ?? http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 18:55.46 | KerPlunk | Sonny: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/iRcIik93.html |
| 18:56.33 | Sonny | KerPlunk, thanks |
| 18:56.35 | zarchne | newbie: yep |
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| 18:57.02 | londonboi2k3 | abrotman, thanks man, I use art manager so have the icons borders etc, but more rendering effects with X I guess is what i mean |
| 18:57.14 | abrotman | londonboi2k3: oh .. you want Cairo |
| 18:57.20 | londonboi2k3 | Cairo? |
| 18:57.22 | abrotman | londonboi2k3: i thought gnome in sid had that already |
| 18:57.25 | londonboi2k3 | not heard of it |
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| 18:57.38 | newbie | zarchne: The Fable of the Channel of #debian ? |
| 18:57.50 | londonboi2k3 | what is it? |
| 18:57.56 | Sonny | KerPlunk, is it the official sources.list? |
| 18:58.19 | abrotman | http://cairographics.org/introduction |
| 18:58.28 | Pollywog | I got a Debian Sarge CD with the Krafft book. If I install Debian and overwrite another distro, can I use my same /home dir? |
| 18:58.32 | abrotman | londonboi2k3: google "cairo gnome" .. maybe with xorg too |
| 18:58.40 | zarchne | newbie: no, #1.2 How do I see where all my big files are? My file system is full. |
| 18:58.54 | londonboi2k3 | ok thanks mate will have a peek |
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| 18:59.18 | newbie | zarchne: thanks, man.. i'll look for that. |
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| 18:59.53 | e1z0 | how do i do fork bomb with perl |
| 19:00.04 | stew | zarchne: what page is that on? |
| 19:00.05 | zinx | why do you want to? |
| 19:00.12 | EightiesK | hello |
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| 19:00.17 | Gathond_ | e1z0: why would we help you do that? |
| 19:00.27 | zinx | forkbomb with sh is far easier |
| 19:00.33 | e1z0 | Gathond_: u dont know? |
| 19:00.42 | Pollywog | I got a Debian Sarge CD with the Krafft book. If I install Debian and overwrite another distro, can I use my same /home dir? |
| 19:00.44 | nimmerIRC | hello |
| 19:00.45 | e1z0 | then dont say if u dont know |
| 19:00.46 | EightiesK | i've been using kubuntu for the last week or so i wanna switch to debian ... do i really need all the cds? |
| 19:00.49 | zinx | hah |
| 19:00.53 | zarchne | stew: is this a trick question? |
| 19:00.54 | stew | Pollywog: yes |
| 19:00.58 | zinx | e1z0: seriously, why would we want to help you do that? |
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| 19:01.01 | Pollywog | stew: thanks |
| 19:01.04 | stew | zarchne: no |
| 19:01.16 | _rene_ | EightiesK: no. you could do a net install if you have a line allowing that |
| 19:01.17 | zinx | e1z0: it's trivial. you'd have to not know perl to not know how. |
| 19:01.24 | nimmerIRC | i got a short question. is the jabberd 1.4 debian package allready compiled for ssl? |
| 19:01.25 | zarchne | stew: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ShellTricks |
| 19:01.45 | _rene_ | EightiesK: and then the first cd or the even netinst cd does suffice |
| 19:01.57 | e1z0 | i know how to fork on shell ":(){ :|:& };:" |
| 19:01.57 | zinx | e1z0: and people who ask stuff like that tend to be idiots who want to do some malicious stuff to someone else's machine |
| 19:01.58 | stew | zarchne: you never pointed him at the shell tricks page, i don't know how he was supposed to know to look there for #1.2 |
| 19:01.59 | e1z0 | ;-) |
| 19:02.01 | KerPlunk | Sonny: There is no official sources.list |
| 19:02.03 | abrotman | _rene_: does PyUno require X ? |
| 19:02.07 | KerPlunk | Sonny: That is what you want. |
| 19:02.11 | e1z0 | zinx: blablabla |
| 19:02.17 | KerPlunk | Sonny: /msg dpkg testing security; /msg dpkg marillat; |
| 19:02.27 | zinx | e1z0: blablapinnedyoudidn'ti |
| 19:02.35 | e1z0 | lmao |
| 19:02.42 | abrotman | KerPlunk: dpkg is dead |
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| 19:03.15 | nimmerIRC | "nimmerIRC: i got a short question. is the jabberd 1.4 debian package allready compiled for ssl?" mh someone know? |
| 19:03.53 | zarchne | stew: you're right, newbie, my bad for confusing directions. That is channel faq ShellTricks 1.2. |
| 19:04.01 | Pollywog | nimmerIRC: did you install it yet? |
| 19:04.28 | nimmerIRC | yes |
| 19:04.44 | abrotman | nimmerIRC: does the package list libssl as a requirement(or maybe they use thier own ssl) |
| 19:04.45 | Pollywog | nimmerIRC: try running ldd on the executable |
| 19:04.53 | Pollywog | that should tell you |
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| 19:05.39 | nimmerIRC | 5222 work fine. i also made a ssl cert for jabberd and enabled it in jabber.xml but does work. so first i want to check if the apt-get install jabber package was allready compiled for enable ssl. if so. it must be some mess with the cert i created |
| 19:05.56 | nimmerIRC | abrotman, Pollywog |
| 19:06.00 | nimmerIRC | thanks =) |
| 19:06.09 | Pollywog | ldd should tell you if it is compiled with ssl |
| 19:06.37 | nimmerIRC | so it seam iam to dumb to make a cert for it ^^ |
| 19:07.08 | Pollywog | nimmerIRC: do you happen to have the postfix book? |
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| 19:07.15 | xaxes|free | @party |
| 19:07.47 | Pollywog | You make the cert the same as if it were for Apache or Postfix |
| 19:07.57 | abrotman | make-ssl-cert might work |
| 19:08.08 | nimmerIRC | mh dunno, just followed the doc at http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/1.4/doc/adminguide#security-ssl |
| 19:08.16 | nimmerIRC | ## Be sure to enter the FQDN (hostname) of your Jabber server as |
| 19:08.16 | nimmerIRC | ## the "Common Name" or the certificate check of the clients will fail. |
| 19:08.19 | nimmerIRC | i guess its this |
| 19:08.28 | Pollywog | yes that would do it |
| 19:08.35 | nimmerIRC | thx guys. i ll try =) |
| 19:08.36 | Pollywog | I used my hostname as the common name |
| 19:08.39 | Pollywog | that works |
| 19:08.59 | Pollywog | or wait maybe it was my domain name |
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| 19:09.16 | Pollywog | let me check the postfix book |
| 19:09.40 | e1z0 | postfix have a book ? |
| 19:09.41 | e1z0 | O_o |
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| 19:09.50 | cisse | heh of course it does |
| 19:09.51 | Pollywog | yes |
| 19:09.55 | e1z0 | lol |
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| 19:10.56 | kris__ | okay, this is weird |
| 19:11.00 | resiak | MorteM: I'm so pleased for youe. |
| 19:11.00 | Kurga | Now I really need help When i run apt-get upgrade I get this error http://pastebin.ca/38823 |
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| 19:11.16 | Pollywog | yes I used my hostname as the common name |
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| 19:11.30 | abrotman | Kurga: did oyu run apt-get update first ? |
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| 19:11.37 | Kurga | yes |
| 19:11.38 | kris__ | root@server:~# apt-get install postfix-tls |
| 19:11.38 | kris__ | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 19:11.38 | kris__ | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 19:11.38 | kris__ | Aborted |
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| 19:11.56 | kris__ | whoops |
| 19:11.57 | wwallace_lap | mplayer used to be my default player for videos in ff now kaffeine opens how do i go back to mplyer ? |
| 19:12.08 | resiak | Kurga: I wonder what dist-upgrade would do there |
| 19:12.19 | Pollywog | e1z0: the Book of Postfix is the one I use now |
| 19:12.22 | abrotman | wwallace_lap: ask #kde ? |
| 19:12.23 | cisse | wwallace_lap: preferences |
| 19:12.35 | Kurtism | NSS does what pam does right? |
| 19:12.36 | MorteM | resiak: thanks :) |
| 19:12.40 | wwallace_lap | im using firefox |
| 19:12.40 | e1z0 | i use toilet paper now |
| 19:12.40 | Pollywog | by Ralph Heldenbrandt and Patrick Koetter |
| 19:12.46 | Kurtism | its like NSS is PAM competition |
| 19:12.50 | Pollywog | Hildenbrandt |
| 19:12.53 | Kurtism | am I right? |
| 19:12.54 | e1z0 | as my primary book |
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| 19:13.03 | e1z0 | its so cool |
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| 19:13.27 | Kurga | resiak: the result http://pastebin.ca/38825 |
| 19:13.31 | resiak | Kurga: Which NSS are you thinking of? |
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| 19:13.43 | Kurtism | NSS for authentication |
| 19:13.43 | Kurga | NSS??? |
| 19:13.55 | resiak | Kurga: Sorry, mistab. |
| 19:14.06 | Kurtism | Name Server Switch |
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| 19:14.29 | resiak | Kurtism: I was just wondering if you were thinking of the SSL implementation :-) |
| 19:14.35 | Pollywog | I guess the folks at #ubuntu are not very helpful? |
| 19:14.57 | resiak | Kurga: What does your sources.list look like? |
| 19:15.06 | cisse | i dont' think NSS is really a replacement for pam |
| 19:15.17 | kris__ | i get this for any package i try to add or remove: |
| 19:15.17 | kris__ | http://pastebin.com/526094 |
| 19:15.21 | kris__ | any ideas? |
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| 19:16.08 | cisse | kristalino: check /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog |
| 19:16.16 | kris__ | nada |
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| 19:16.27 | cisse | never seen that |
| 19:16.36 | Pollywog | kris__: can you install other packages? |
| 19:16.45 | kris__ | yeah, neither have i |
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| 19:16.52 | kris__ | Pollywog: no, it does that for everything |
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| 19:16.58 | Pollywog | oic |
| 19:17.18 | Pollywog | and you ran 'apt-get update' and apt-get check'? |
| 19:17.22 | Benedict_XVI | anyone know a file liek autoexec.bat in linux? |
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| 19:17.31 | Eclipser | heh |
| 19:17.36 | Kurga | resiak: 1 #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main |
| 19:17.38 | Kurga | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.39 | Kurga | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.41 | Kurga | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.42 | resiak | You fool |
| 19:17.46 | resiak | Don't paste in here |
| 19:17.53 | Kurga | sorry |
| 19:17.56 | kris__ | yeah |
| 19:18.01 | kris__ | i ran both of those, Pollywog |
| 19:18.06 | kris__ | both come out okay |
| 19:18.13 | Eclipser | Benedict_XVI, you want to run commands on boot or something? |
| 19:18.20 | Benedict_XVI | yea |
| 19:18.25 | MorteM | resiak: i'm connected to the net via PPPOE, can i still use netinstall? |
| 19:18.26 | yang | what a nickname... |
| 19:18.28 | Pollywog | do you have a /etc/apt/preferences file? |
| 19:18.30 | resiak | Kurga: You're lucky. Four lines is the limit... you must have just slipped under the bar. :-) I don't know --- hope someone else can help you. |
| 19:18.35 | kris__ | no |
| 19:18.37 | resiak | MorteM: Probably --- why not try? |
| 19:18.43 | Benedict_XVI | i cant get fstab to mount my partitions at startup so i need something else to do it |
| 19:19.04 | zarchne | The mind reels. |
| 19:19.08 | Eclipser | surely there's something wrong with your fstab file |
| 19:19.24 | MorteM | resiak: yes :D i'm almost done downloading :) |
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| 19:19.42 | zarchne | not that the fstab by itself does anything. "mount -a" should, though. |
| 19:19.50 | Kurga | resiak: I have found out that I need to upgrade to a kernel higher than 2.6.12, but I can't "install" a new kernel |
| 19:20.16 | resiak | Kurga: apt-cache search --names-only linux-image- |
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| 19:20.29 | Kurga | can't use apt-get |
| 19:20.35 | Eclipser | why not? |
| 19:20.54 | Benedict_XVI | Eclipser, every time i edit the fstab file it goes back to the same way after each startup |
| 19:21.16 | Eclipser | Benedict_XVI, did you edit it as rooot? |
| 19:21.18 | Eclipser | -o |
| 19:21.24 | Benedict_XVI | yes |
| 19:21.25 | zarchne | Benedict_XVI: wait, is this a live cd? |
| 19:21.37 | Benedict_XVI | No, mepis, installed |
| 19:21.44 | resiak | !mepis |
| 19:21.45 | thefly | hello folks |
| 19:21.46 | badgers | MEPIS is a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system. Uses KDE by default, and includes the NVIDIA proprietary 3D driver. It also includes a custom installer on the KDE desktop, with simple LILO configuration. See http://www.mepis.org. It is NOT real Debian, attempts to use apt-get with Debian mirrors will ... |
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| 19:22.14 | stew | Benedict_XVI: please go to #mepis for help with mepis |
| 19:22.16 | Kurga | resiak: http://pastebin.ca/38829 |
| 19:22.46 | Benedict_XVI | ffs mepis's fstab saystem is identical to debians |
| 19:22.49 | Pollywog | I wonder what is in your sources.list kris__ |
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| 19:23.09 | Eclipser | Benedict_XVI, perhaps but the problem is not fstab related |
| 19:23.09 | gnufa1 | Benedict_XVI: well it might be, but we wouldn't know, #mepis guys would |
| 19:23.21 | Benedict_XVI | mepis is based on debian |
| 19:23.22 | thefly | i have a creative audigy2 and i can't get anything on my input on /dev/dsp. Actually if i read from /dev/dsp i get what i'm actually writing (for example i'm i'm playing xmms i record what i'm playing). I can't understand why, i'm running linux 2.6.15.1 and everything was working smoothly 1 hour ago when i was using my sblive |
| 19:23.28 | Eclipser | !based on debian |
| 19:23.29 | badgers | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll maybe get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
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| 19:23.46 | nimmerIRC | Pollywog: mh i try my hostname (jabber) but does work. id you took the hostname or your domain name (jabber.marvin.home) ? |
| 19:23.47 | kris__ | Pollywog: normal stuff. http://pastebin.com/526108 |
| 19:23.59 | abrotman | yay for badgers |
| 19:24.02 | nimmerIRC | eh hostname doesnt work |
| 19:24.09 | abrotman | Benedict_XVI: please go to #mepis |
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| 19:24.27 | Pollywog | nimmerIRC: I use hostname... did you run a script to generate the cert? |
| 19:24.40 | Pollywog | you need to generate your CA cert first |
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| 19:24.51 | MorteM | resiak: done... now how to write the iso on usb stick? |
| 19:25.14 | nimmerIRC | Pollywog: ok. will do |
| 19:25.37 | Pollywog | maybe you do not have all the packages you need to generate a cert |
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| 19:27.12 | gnufa1 | nimmerIRC: I feel I came in half way, but there is a Debian specific Howto for certs at debian-administration.org - don't know if it is what you want |
| 19:27.45 | Pollywog | gnufa1: thanks, I did not know about that Howto |
| 19:27.56 | jlj_ | would it be possible for a bad modeline to lock up X completely (including keyboard)? |
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| 19:28.53 | nimmerIRC | gnufa1: thx. as long as the jabber package was compiled for using ssl, i should get it to run |
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| 19:29.06 | vcarson | what mirrors should i add to sources.list if i am in norway to get the fastest download speed? :) |
| 19:29.16 | bizkit | jlj_: use antoher machine to ssh into the box and kill X |
| 19:29.40 | Cache__ | i'm going to try to install Debian on a SATA RAID disk array, think i should go with block se 4K being it an O/S and i'm not goign to have any really large files on it? (that i know of) |
| 19:29.47 | gnufa1 | vcarson: apt-spy ? Not perfect but a start? |
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| 19:30.20 | nimmerIRC | Pollywog did you allready tried jabberd2? is there a package? i guess no. so did you had problem compiling it yourself? |
| 19:30.28 | abrotman | the first time(a long time ago) i tried to use apt-spy .. it would just die and wipe out your sources |
| 19:30.37 | Cache__ | can someone please answer my quickly becuase i have to ok the option before continueing |
| 19:31.17 | gnufa1 | abrotman: hehe when I first used it the next week the guy who ran the closest mirror to me explained why it wouldn't select his... hohum |
| 19:31.18 | abrotman | that's up to you .. there are many ways to answer |
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| 19:31.24 | jlj_ | bizkit: yes, i did that, but I still don't know what causes it. whenever I try to load a window manager X locks up bad, but it works when running programs without a vm..hm |
| 19:31.31 | strider | netselect-apt |
| 19:31.34 | abrotman | gnufa1: any chance it was at PSU ? |
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| 19:33.57 | gnufa1 | gnufa1: it was theo the crazy greek - who was at anlx at the time |
| 19:34.17 | gnufa1 | abrotman: Oh no I'm talking to myself.... |
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| 19:34.34 | thefly | i have a creative audigy2 and i can't get anything on my input on /dev/dsp. Actually if i read from /dev/dsp i get what i'm actually writing (for example if i'm playing xmms i record what i'm playing). I can't understand why, i'm running linux 2.6.15.1 and everything was working smoothly 1 hour ago when i was using my sblive |
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| 19:34.45 | opnsrc | I tried ot install Azureus and it needs java2-runtime which isn't on the list. Can someone guide me toward a repository that has it? |
| 19:34.57 | resiak | !install java |
| 19:34.57 | badgers | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
| 19:35.07 | resiak | !tell opnsrc -about java-package |
| 19:35.18 | gnufa1 | Three hours sleep - too much tea -- idled the hours making a dodgy banner to persuade sergey that the chinese government are evil |
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| 19:35.46 | opnsrc | Thanks |
| 19:36.47 | KerPlunk | What is a good format to stream video in that is free as in freedom? |
| 19:36.55 | KerPlunk | stream video from a website say |
| 19:36.56 | jbroome | ascii |
| 19:37.08 | KerPlunk | !mhallsmite jbroome |
| 19:37.26 | jbroome | no reach-around? that's harsh |
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| 19:39.34 | Blissex | KerPlunk: thats a bit crass... |
| 19:39.52 | humboldt | I have a mailing issue and I try to narrow down the source of the problem. therefore I need to find a way to examine a mail for single CR characters. how can I do that. I won't see them in a text editor or at least I will not be able to see the difference between CR LF CRLF?! |
| 19:40.10 | KerPlunk | Blissex: /msg mhall |
| 19:40.15 | Blissex | KerPlunk: as to streaming, good old MPEG not too bad, and then consider Theora and perhaps even the new Dirac codec. |
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| 19:40.28 | KerPlunk | thanks Blissex |
| 19:40.28 | mhall | KerPlunk: lol |
| 19:40.30 | mhall | Blissex: haha |
| 19:40.38 | gnufa1 | humboldt: vim will show dos line ending as a ^M... |
| 19:40.57 | humboldt | so which one is the dos ending? |
| 19:41.00 | mhall | it's almost like Kibo, appearing in all threads mentioning his name... |
| 19:41.03 | kristalino | cisee, errm ;) |
| 19:41.18 | humboldt | gnufa1: and how can I see the rest? |
| 19:41.20 | mhall | humboldt: you probably want the od command |
| 19:41.25 | dominicano | dvm1981, what a hell are you doing here at this hour? |
| 19:41.25 | mhall | humboldt: CRLF is dos |
| 19:41.30 | mhall | humboldt: LF is unix |
| 19:41.33 | mhall | humboldt: CR is mac |
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| 19:41.53 | bizkit | humboldt: use less to view the file, it can display the raw control chars |
| 19:41.53 | mhall | humboldt: running file on a text file will often mention its line break format |
| 19:41.55 | humboldt | mhall: I see. And in email headers there should only be CRLF |
| 19:42.09 | ice_1963 | 824 nick's :0) |
| 19:42.11 | humboldt | mhall: does this apply to the body to? |
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| 19:43.02 | mhall | humboldt: better check the RFC |
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| 19:43.51 | humboldt | bizkit: how can it do that? |
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| 19:44.16 | bizkit | humboldt: -r |
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| 19:45.39 | djp | is it possible to change screen resolution on the fly with a key command? currently i use xrandr to change resolution and refresh rate from the command line. i wondered whether i could assign a keystroke to carry out the command? |
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| 19:46.23 | gnufa1 | djp: doesn't ctrl-alt-"+" and "-" work? |
| 19:46.37 | mango | hello. I am trying to set up debian sarge as a server on my laptop, just for trailing. My wireless card worked fine before, and I can still see it. The problem is that I have to my primary network card (rg45 connected to a router (wireless one), but i want to use the internet on a deferent router ( wireless also), but I do not know how to configure both at the same time. In other word, the first router does not have the intern |
| 19:46.51 | humboldt | bizkit: does not really look like it |
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| 19:47.05 | thefly | i have a creative audigy2 and i can't get anything on my input on /dev/dsp. Actually if i read from /dev/dsp i get what i'm actually writing (for example if i'm playing xmms i record what i'm playing). I can't understand why, i'm running linux 2.6.15.1 and everything was working smoothly 1 hour ago when i was using my sblive. i don't have any idea and can't find anything on google |
| 19:47.38 | Blissex | mango: 'man 5 interfaces', and designate as the default gateway the wireless probably. |
| 19:47.55 | djp | gnufal, no |
| 19:48.01 | gnufa1 | mango: you just need to add the default route to the IP address of the router with the Internet connection, the rest should probably just work. |
| 19:48.11 | gnufa1 | djp: what desktop? |
| 19:48.13 | mhall | djp: your X conf file is probably fucked up |
| 19:48.15 | mhall | dpy: also |
| 19:48.35 | mhall | djp: also, you need Ctrl-LAlt-NumPad+ and Ctrl-LAlt-NumPad- |
| 19:48.56 | gnufa1 | mhall: Thanks - never realised - always just "did it". |
| 19:49.10 | mhall | thefly: fix your mixer, alsamixer |
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| 19:49.22 | djp | gnufal, gnome desktop |
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| 19:49.49 | mango | gnufa1: both routers are netgear, do you mean I route from one router to another? |
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| 19:50.05 | mhall | gnufa1: yeah had a problem with it back when i first used linux in 1997 or so |
| 19:50.32 | thefly | mhall: i use alsamixer |
| 19:50.34 | mfdutra | I tried to install debian in a new server, but the old kernel 2.6.8 doesn't support my raid controller, neither 2.4.27 |
| 19:50.38 | thefly | mhall: ever had this problem? |
| 19:50.39 | djp | gnufal, xrandr -s -r works fine |
| 19:50.41 | gnufa1 | djp: but the ctrl-alt thing needs a selection of valid modes to choose between, does the GNOME screen resolution tool show you several available modes? If not it is the X config you need to work on |
| 19:50.44 | mfdutra | I know the latest 2.6 supports it fine |
| 19:50.50 | mfdutra | how to boot d-i with another kernel? |
| 19:51.16 | gnufa1 | mfdutra: "linux26" at the prompt |
| 19:51.25 | mfdutra | I know |
| 19:51.31 | mfdutra | but 2.6.8 is toooooooooo old |
| 19:51.40 | humboldt | bizkit: why do I not see any? there must be some, otherwise there would not be a line break would there? |
| 19:51.40 | mfdutra | I need a newer kernel that supports my raid controller |
| 19:51.43 | gpm | hey everyone. i'm on gnome in sid (2.12) and gnome-volume-manager mounts my ipod just great with usb, however, with firewire, it only detects it and doesn't mount it for some reason. i can pmount it or mount it normally, but g-v-m/hald/dbus/pmount/whatever isn't automounting with firewire. i can just use usb for the time being, but does anyone know why this would be? |
| 19:51.44 | gnufa1 | mfdutra: the other way I used is the etch installer |
| 19:51.56 | djp | gnufal, the gnome screen resolution does show me different resolutions and i can change them from there, yes. by the way does the ctrl-alt + - option allow for refresh rate changes also? |
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| 19:52.07 | humboldt | bizkit: does the behaviour change if the file is unicode? |
| 19:52.07 | mfdutra | gnufa1, can I install sarge with it? |
| 19:52.14 | gnufa1 | mfdutra: yeap |
| 19:52.26 | mfdutra | which kernel does it have? |
| 19:52.40 | gnufa1 | mfdutra: you might need expert mode, but it offers a choice of stable/testing/unstable |
| 19:52.53 | mfdutra | hmm ok |
| 19:52.54 | mfdutra | which kernel does it have? |
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| 19:53.06 | gnufa1 | mfdutra: forget, but I wanted it for a RAID card in a DELL.... |
| 19:53.22 | freccia | user |
| 19:53.40 | mhall | thefly: well i figure your mic mixer is unmuted |
| 19:53.43 | mhall | thefly: or your line in |
| 19:53.52 | mhall | thefly: so then you're feedbacking somehow |
| 19:54.09 | thefly | but alsamixer doesn't show if it's muted |
| 19:54.12 | strider | is specifying the --initrd option during make-kpkg necessary or is it understood? |
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| 19:54.39 | thefly | mhall: all apps that use a recording channel don't show any in their menu, as if i couldn't |
| 19:54.57 | fugit | strider: I believe it needs to be choosen if you need to have initrd |
| 19:55.01 | gnufa1 | mfdutra: 2.6.12 apparently |
| 19:55.04 | blaen | Hi. I was hoping to find out the command to use the partition/formatter you see on the intiial Debian installation? |
| 19:55.35 | djp | mhall, can you confirm whether the alt-ctrl + or - command allows for refresh rate changes as well as resolution? |
| 19:55.56 | mhall | djp: hmm... refresh rate... that's going to take some other tool |
| 19:56.01 | thefly | mhall: i used to have the "rec" box under the "mute" box in gnome-alsamixer when i was using my sblive, i don't have it anymore |
| 19:56.28 | mhall | thefly: better mess with the settings for a while |
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| 19:56.40 | mhall | thefly: i don't know why but some cards have *bizarre* mixer settings |
| 19:56.42 | thefly | i've been messing with them since 19:00 |
| 19:56.44 | blaen | Anyone know? |
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| 19:56.53 | thefly | (it's 22:00 now) |
| 19:57.06 | mhall | thefly: my acer laptop under older 2.6es had a 'headphone' mixer channel and the main one did nothing |
| 19:57.22 | mhall | thefly: then i upgraded to a newer 2.6 and it only had a main channel that did everything |
| 19:57.27 | mhall | thefly: it was really fucked up |
| 19:57.40 | thefly | mhall: i see |
| 19:57.45 | thefly | ok thanks |
| 19:57.54 | mhall | thefly: so perhaps your other choice is to try latest 2.6 or earlier 2.6 (whichever you don't have) and then alsa CVS |
| 19:58.08 | thefly | i'm using latest 2.6 |
| 19:58.09 | mhall | thefly: apparently alsa CVS works better at times than the kernel one |
| 19:58.19 | mhall | thefly: other than that, i'm sorry to say i'm out of ideas |
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| 19:58.29 | mhall | thefly: one thing... emu10k1 driver broke for me in 2.6.15.x |
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| 19:58.37 | mhall | thefly: so i was stuck at 2.6.14.6 |
| 19:58.51 | djp | mhall, so even if i got the ctrl-alt - + thing to work, i would probably be better off using xrandr to make the changes from the command line i suppose... |
| 19:58.56 | mhall | thefly: so you better look in the lkml archive too, i saw some messages about 2.6.15.x emu10k1 breakage |
| 19:59.05 | mhall | djp: better ask #xorg |
| 19:59.06 | thefly | ah, i see |
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| 19:59.26 | mhall | thefly: but now i'm using VIA 8237 / AC97 on new mobo |
| 19:59.32 | mhall | thefly: but still 2.6.14 though |
| 19:59.39 | mhall | thefly: have not tried .15 just yet |
| 19:59.57 | thefly | i tried 2.6.14.x but with same problem |
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| 20:00.09 | mhall | djp: i'm there now and am curious about the answer |
| 20:00.22 | mhall | djp: so hopefully they will say what tools can do the job |
| 20:00.53 | gnufa1 | djp: I broke my number pad playing with GNOME accessibility stuff... you haven't done that have you? |
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| 20:01.31 | gnufa1 | djp: the accessibility stuff can put the number pad into weird "modes" for driving some feature or other. |
| 20:01.40 | thefly | mhall: if you use alsamixer, does it show where the recording is on? |
| 20:01.47 | thefly | (wether) |
| 20:01.48 | sil3114 | hi, I got a asus nforce4 based motherboard, it got one silicone image 3114 sata controller and the built in nforce sata controller, what preformes best ? |
| 20:02.02 | sil3114 | im going to use it as a server under linux |
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| 20:02.41 | goron | I get -Unable to load font -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--20-140-100-100-p-105-iso8859-1 in emacs, but xlsfonts shows I have it. |
| 20:02.45 | thefly | i'll give 2.6.14.2 another try |
| 20:02.55 | djp | mhall, ah... i'm using xfree86. whould that be the issue? |
| 20:02.59 | vedranell | hello |
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| 20:03.06 | goron | How do I get rid of that error? |
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| 20:03.29 | djp | gnufal, i hope not... this is a fresh install here, so i gather i haven't broken anything just yet! ;) |
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| 20:03.38 | vedranell | some /msg dpkg or howto for cd auto-mounting? :) thanks in advance |
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| 20:05.26 | mhall | djp: i'm not sure i follow the issue |
| 20:05.36 | mhall | thingfish: that's usu based on whether the mic is mute i think |
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| 20:06.49 | funkja | hey |
| 20:06.56 | funkja | I have a small problem... :-) |
| 20:07.13 | Supaplex | how do I tell the last time I used cvs update? (provided I'm in the projects' root directory) |
| 20:07.13 | djp | mhall, oh sorry. is there no difference between xfree86 and xorg? i just wondered if because you directed me to #xorg, that the ctrl-alt - + option, only worked under xorg? or are the two, one and the same? |
| 20:07.27 | Cache__ | does /boot partition need the bootable flag? |
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| 20:08.01 | funkja | I sshed into my debain machine from a RHL machine and was trying to move a file from my remote machine to my local machine. I typed mv complexx.cpp c: and hit enter. The file disspeared and now i cannot find it. Where would it have gone/ |
| 20:08.15 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 20:08.20 | Supaplex | Cache__: depends on where you boot loader is. and /boot is required unless your bios doesn't support LBA (or it's bug0red) |
| 20:08.22 | resiak | into a file called "c:"? |
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| 20:08.29 | funkja | hm... |
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| 20:08.53 | funkja | oh lovely |
| 20:08.56 | Supaplex | funkja: 'c:' is a valid filename in unix. try ls -l c: |
| 20:09.10 | funkja | i found it... haha.. |
| 20:09.19 | mhall | djp: ctrl alt +/- is standard to both |
| 20:09.20 | abrotman | !captain obvious resiak |
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| 20:09.36 | Supaplex | funkja: your c: is now 4k :) |
| 20:09.38 | Supaplex | hehee |
| 20:09.38 | resiak | abrotman: :-) |
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| 20:09.51 | mhall | _sussi: hahaha |
| 20:09.58 | funkja | haha... ya... i'm still getting the hang out linux. you just saved me 2 hours worth of rewriting code :) |
| 20:10.03 | mhall | abrotman: wtf is badgers vs dpkg vs apt |
| 20:10.10 | mhall | abrotman: now i'm *really* confused |
| 20:10.12 | mhall | funkja: ;-) |
| 20:10.13 | abrotman | mhall: dpkg is dead .. badgers is his backup |
| 20:10.17 | abrotman | badgers: who owns you |
| 20:10.18 | badgers | dondelelcaro does |
| 20:10.20 | abrotman | bah |
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| 20:10.31 | abrotman | mhall: badgers belongs to sussudio |
| 20:10.32 | mhall | abrotman: like forever dead or for now |
| 20:10.36 | djp | mhall, oh i see. |
| 20:10.39 | abrotman | mhall: all day afaik |
| 20:10.48 | mhall | abrotman: somehow it makes sense it's sussudio |
| 20:10.58 | djp | mhall, i will take a trip over to #xorg then, thanks. |
| 20:10.59 | Supaplex | !snake |
| 20:10.59 | badgers | from memory, snake is sticky, creepy, or whispers. See also sco. OOH it's a snaaakee! |
| 20:11.15 | mhall | shit i lost the url |
| 20:11.17 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 20:11.17 | badgers | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 20:11.23 | tarzeau | !mhall |
| 20:11.23 | badgers | mhall is probably 10:37 < mhall> jm_: i'm an idiot; i did eval 'lesspipe' not eval `lesspipe` |
| 20:11.23 | mhall | does anybody still have it |
| 20:11.39 | mhall | tarzeau: :-D hi, my name's mhall, i'm very special |
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| 20:12.21 | Supaplex | ask professor google. I bet money there are a plethora of mirrors |
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| 20:13.08 | funkja | okay, so what is the command to transfer files from a local machine to a remote machine |
| 20:13.17 | deadcat | scp |
| 20:13.18 | zulu42 | a process make arp-request on my box... how do I know which one? |
| 20:13.19 | deadcat | rsync |
| 20:13.21 | Supaplex | sftp |
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| 20:13.30 | mhall | Supaplex: haha |
| 20:13.30 | Supaplex | or in a pinch, nc |
| 20:13.53 | deadcat | nc is udp or tcp |
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| 20:14.08 | ^Chance-- | !find mod_external |
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| 20:14.55 | _sussi | what? |
| 20:15.24 | ^Chance-- | anyone knows where, how or wich is the packet that contains the apache2 module called mod_external ? |
| 20:15.27 | badgers | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'mod_external' returned no results. |
| 20:15.30 | funkja | how do you undo 'su' |
| 20:15.38 | funkja | got it |
| 20:15.49 | Cache__ | i setup a Hardware SATA RAID array, and when i go into Debian installer, and into the partitoin program, it looks like it splits up the array into the two 160 HD's ?why is this? also, the option to "Configure software RAID" is available, is that how i get debian to be a SATA RAID ? |
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| 20:16.01 | deadcat | funkja: usu |
| 20:16.06 | deadcat | just umount |
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| 20:16.28 | starfishy | cache: your onboard SATA controller does _not_ set up a hardware raid |
| 20:16.39 | gnufa1 | Argh -- acpi --- I hate saving power |
| 20:16.45 | starfishy | its merely a software raid with some BIOS support |
| 20:16.45 | pepo | i am usin kernel 2.6.8 but i need upgrade tu 2.6.12 with the patch i am ready? |
| 20:16.58 | Cache__ | oh |
| 20:16.58 | starfishy | so of course linux sees two disks |
| 20:17.18 | Cache__ | that might explain some problems then |
| 20:17.20 | starfishy | there are RAID howtos available |
| 20:17.29 | starfishy | i prefer real hardware RAID but YMMV |
| 20:17.33 | Cache__ | i'm following one rihgt now, not sure if it's any good |
| 20:17.40 | pepo | becouse just i can see in apt-cache 2.6.12-patch |
| 20:17.43 | Cache__ | YMMV? |
| 20:17.43 | starfishy | i wouldnt be able to tell you |
| 20:17.52 | starfishy | Your Mileage May Vary |
| 20:18.03 | mhall | Supaplex: lol i googled but i can't find the good techno remix, only the junky one from badgerx3, hehe |
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| 20:18.27 | starfishy | i.e. a vanilla disclaimer like the one the car manufacturers slap on their vehicles |
| 20:18.31 | gnufa1 | Cache__: I'm a convert from hardware RAID to software --- give me cheap IDE disks and lots of em ;) |
| 20:18.52 | opnsrc | So the reason the Java packages can't be put in repositories is because of licensing issues? |
| 20:18.53 | starfishy | gnufa: my hardware raid also uses 'cheap' ide disks |
| 20:19.07 | Blissex | opnsrc: yes. |
| 20:19.07 | starfishy | but i dont have to have the OS even aware of the raid |
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| 20:19.34 | opnsrc | Are there any other java packages that don't have such restrictions? |
| 20:19.49 | gnufa1 | starfishy: so does mine ;) And it makes it faster, but software RAID is good enough for most of our servers, which our bandwidth limited by our expensive Internet connections... |
| 20:20.20 | Cache__ | well what should i do |
| 20:20.24 | gnufa1 | opnsrc: Yes - what you trying to run in Java? |
| 20:20.28 | Cache__ | "Configur software RAID? |
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| 20:20.30 | opnsrc | azureus |
| 20:21.01 | starfishy | gnufal: true |
| 20:21.10 | starfishy | im just lazy :) |
| 20:21.26 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 20:21.26 | badgers | <Guerin> JVaughn: it's probably bourbon. bourbon and whisky are different like knoppix and debian. |
| 20:21.37 | stew | opnsrc: that requires java 1.5 and there are currently no free implementations of 1.5 only 1.4 |
| 20:21.55 | opnsrc | thanks |
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| 20:23.26 | Cache__ | should i use :" Configure software RAID" ? or jsut manually setup my partitions with the partitioning tool on debian |
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| 20:24.18 | cisse | Cache__: you have to parition each drive as 'linux raid autodetect' and then configure software raid |
| 20:24.31 | Cache__ | alright |
| 20:24.44 | k31th | Most used ftp server on debian ? |
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| 20:24.49 | k31th | proftpd or vsftpd ? |
| 20:24.51 | ronin | k31th: personal call |
| 20:24.54 | yzrider088 | in my /etc/hosts it is set to backupserver but its not resolving |
| 20:24.55 | funkja | okay... how do I get files from my remote machine to the local machine that i am on? I am sshed into the remoted debian machine and the local machine is RHL |
| 20:25.00 | yzrider088 | any ideas |
| 20:25.14 | k31th | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:25.56 | Almsx | hello for all |
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| 20:26.07 | Almsx | I need hel |
| 20:26.09 | abrotman | funkja: scp |
| 20:26.23 | funkja | scp remote address local address? |
| 20:26.28 | deadcat | funkja: man scp |
| 20:26.31 | Almsx | I have one problem that debootstap |
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| 20:27.10 | abrotman | funkja: scp username@remote:file file |
| 20:27.20 | abrotman | or inverse to copy to somewhere |
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| 20:31.20 | zulu42 | hey I know the -p option of netstat which tell which process a connection belong to, but I want to know which process make arp-request every 10secondes on my system (to an old unplugged network printer) what should I use for that? |
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| 20:31.34 | k31th | How can i check the raid i just setup is working correctly ? |
| 20:31.45 | Cache__ | where is this "Linux RAID Autodetect " i can't find it |
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| 20:31.59 | cisse | Cache__: it's a partition type |
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| 20:32.45 | Ryushin | How do I find a list of the complete package names that are installed? dpkg -l "*python2.3*" doesn't show the full name. It get cut off. |
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| 20:33.06 | tarzeau | HTTP://BUB-N-BROS.SF.NET NOW ON SNOW.ETHZ.CH AND #BUB-N-BROS |
| 20:33.13 | fhffhqvb | !test |
| 20:33.13 | badgers | Yes, fhffhqvb, you're still online. |
| 20:33.13 | dpkg | No, fhffhqvb, you're not online any more. |
| 20:33.27 | dondelelcaro | tarzeau: ? |
| 20:33.45 | fhffhqvb | !capssmite tarzeau |
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| 20:39.08 | yzrider088 | if i do "ping backupserver" on my linux box, it pings fine, but i cant get to my linux box through this hostname any ideas? |
| 20:39.36 | roxfiler | how to limit kb/s of apt-get ? |
| 20:39.47 | abrotman | trickle |
| 20:39.54 | macsim | yzrider088, what's the error ? |
| 20:39.54 | darkhunter | no limit, just relax ;) |
| 20:40.07 | roxfiler | :S |
| 20:40.41 | yzrider088 | unable to connect to server |
| 20:40.45 | mhall | Ryushin: COLUMNS=200 ... |
| 20:41.10 | Cache__ | where is this "Linux RAID Autodetect " i can't find it |
| 20:41.43 | macsim | yzrider088, how ? ssh ? web ? |
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| 20:42.32 | GomoX | Hi |
| 20:42.43 | Cache__ | i'm in the Manual configuration |
| 20:42.46 | GomoX | Debootstrap is about to make my head explode |
| 20:42.57 | yzrider088 | ssh,web,telnet,ping |
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| 20:43.22 | goron | How do I refresh the fonts list? I already restarted the X server. |
| 20:43.23 | vin` | GomoX: where are you stuck? |
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| 20:44.28 | Red_Cloud | My OS is debian gnu/linux sarge 3.1 At boot the splash screen before grub starts is the gateway splash screen which came with my 'puter. I would like to change this to something more appropriate. Can someone assist me with information for changing this splash screen? Or direct me to the correct chat to receive help? |
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| 20:44.48 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: get a new BIOS |
| 20:45.09 | Red_Cloud | but, seriously.... |
| 20:45.11 | roxfiler | lol |
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| 20:45.29 | dondelelcaro | Red_Cloud: that's pretty much what you have to do, unless your bios can be flashed or something |
| 20:46.00 | goron | Don't we need to free the BIOS? |
| 20:46.04 | goron | ;) |
| 20:46.04 | GomoX | vin: let me pastebin this for you |
| 20:46.05 | Red_Cloud | dondellelcaro, then the splash screen is hard-wired and may not be changed? |
| 20:46.08 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: i was being serious |
| 20:46.12 | dondelelcaro | Red_Cloud: depends on the bios |
| 20:46.31 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: if you mean the Gateway logo .. afaik .. it's in the BIOS .. and i'm not sure there's anyway to change it other than getting a new BIOS |
| 20:46.43 | Cache__ | that's why i couldn't find it |
| 20:46.57 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, thanks for your seriousness, but as you see, I am genuine in my ignorance and could not tell the difference in good advice and a hoot. |
| 20:47.05 | harleyg | I wanna get down on my knees and start pleasing jesus, I wanna feel his salavation all over my face!!! |
| 20:47.06 | Cache__ | It's not under "Linux RAID Autodetect " tha'ts why i couldn't find it |
| 20:47.26 | vin` | harleyg: eh? |
| 20:47.34 | harleyg | sing it |
| 20:47.37 | dondelelcaro | Red_Cloud: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22bios+splash+screen%22+change&btnG=Search |
| 20:47.39 | Red_Cloud | harleyg, you are a one sick puppy |
| 20:47.45 | harleyg | woot |
| 20:47.57 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: you might inquire in #hardware .. but i suspect you'll get the same answer |
| 20:47.59 | harleyg | everytime i see jesus up on that cross |
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| 20:48.05 | harleyg | i cant help but think he looks kinda hot |
| 20:48.07 | Red_Cloud | dondelelcaro, thanks for the link |
| 20:48.23 | GomoX | http://pastebin.com/526272 |
| 20:48.33 | GomoX | It's annoyingly weird |
| 20:48.40 | harleyg | one time |
| 20:48.43 | harleyg | two time |
| 20:48.47 | harleyg | three times my saviour! |
| 20:49.10 | Cache__ | "Because of n unknown reason it is impossible to resize this partition" |
| 20:49.38 | Cache__ | wtf |
| 20:49.39 | dondelelcaro | GomoX: try not using the tarball and just downloading the debs |
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| 20:49.48 | user__ | hi |
| 20:49.51 | vin` | GomoX: and why woody? |
| 20:49.57 | user__ | i have very small fonst in every gtk1 based application |
| 20:50.07 | user__ | how can i make them larger? |
| 20:50.15 | GomoX | I already tried replacing the "available" file and it doesn't show the error message, but it doesn't work |
| 20:50.16 | dondelelcaro | GomoX: basically, it sounds like something is going wrong which is keeping it from being able to mmap the available file |
| 20:50.37 | user__ | infact they are so small that i hardly can see them lol |
| 20:50.43 | harleyg | hahahaha! |
| 20:50.51 | harleyg | s/fonts/penis |
| 20:50.56 | abrotman | harleyg: please stop |
| 20:50.59 | goron | dondelelcaro: do you know anything about how to make sure some fonts do not come up in xlsfonts? |
| 20:51.00 | harleyg | ok sorry |
| 20:51.01 | GomoX | I want to use the basedebs.tar file because i already downloaded it, and it took VERY long |
| 20:51.01 | harleyg | :) |
| 20:51.24 | user__ | harleyg, are you uk-troll? |
| 20:51.30 | GomoX | it's the woody basedebs.tar from ftp.debian.org, do you think downloading againd would do anything about this? |
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| 20:51.58 | user__ | come on people |
| 20:52.03 | user__ | give me ashoot |
| 20:52.10 | harleyg | ive been known to troll |
| 20:52.16 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, you mean that is all it took? "herleyg, please stop" ? I would have never tried that. I guess simple requests for simple people. |
| 20:52.17 | harleyg | im pretty good at it actually |
| 20:52.45 | GomoX | dondelelcaro: ? |
| 20:53.11 | user__ | actually its nothing to be proud of unless you are 13 year old kid |
| 20:53.16 | harleyg | haha |
| 20:53.36 | darkhunter | yeeaaah |
| 20:53.46 | vin` | !troll feed |
| 20:54.14 | harleyg | what about me |
| 20:54.32 | Seb | is the latest acroread from marillat (7.0.5-0.0) not working ? No error msg, just returns -1 and doesn't start... |
| 20:54.37 | user__ | so how can i incrase gtk1 font size? |
| 20:54.42 | Seb | i mean, do other people see that behavior too ? |
| 20:55.30 | Red_Cloud | abrotman & dondelelcaro, you are right, it is hard-wired. I have lived with it for a couple of years now, so I guess I'll live with it until I get a new box. Thanks for your help |
| 20:55.39 | Cache__ | UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK debian |
| 20:55.48 | Cache__ | i can't write the partition table |
| 20:56.03 | blaen | Having a bit of difficulty here. I'm trying to format 2 200gb SATA drives to be using ReiserFS w/Software Raid - any information on the web I could get on it? |
| 20:56.03 | user__ | doh |
| 20:56.18 | dondelelcaro | GomoX: what version of Debian are you using to install Debian? |
| 20:57.04 | strider | Seb: works fine |
| 20:57.40 | djp | mhall, xrandr is my best option i have found out. ctrl-alt + or - needs configuring before it will work and will not allow for refresh rate changes. thanks for the help by the way. |
| 20:57.41 | vin` | blaen: no google-fu? |
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| 20:58.37 | Blissex | blaen: lots of RAID HOWTOs. |
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| 21:00.35 | hans0lo | what console command will output a range of numbers? ex. [1..10] |
| 21:00.59 | Zea | hey guys..i have a problem with the sound in a old laptop....can any body help me? |
| 21:01.27 | hans0lo | Zea: try OSS instead of Alsa |
| 21:01.39 | darkhunter | Zea: Use alsa-mixer :) Sound on |
| 21:01.44 | Denyerec | I wish I could help... I had the same problem but its been so long since I fixed it I can't remember a damn thing. |
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| 21:05.23 | user__ | damn!!! |
| 21:05.41 | JKL | how do i change hdb2 partition from ntfs to ext3? |
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| 21:05.54 | user__ | i have installed xorg from backports sometime ago and now i was trying to reinstall it from officail deiban packages(i migrated to testing) |
| 21:06.04 | user__ | when im trying to apt-get install x-window-system |
| 21:06.14 | user__ | E: The package x11-common needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 21:06.17 | dr1v3r | guys is Blackdown's Java Runtime Environnement (JRE) ok to use on 3.1? |
| 21:06.26 | user__ | any ideas? |
| 21:06.27 | user__ | damn |
| 21:06.39 | user__ | i shouldn't have been touching it |
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| 21:07.16 | LucianSolaris | Going down for restart to begin installation, wish me luck! |
| 21:07.21 | karsten | dr1v3r: Whatever. I'd just as soon install Sun's. Java sucks either way. |
| 21:07.24 | user__ | anyone? |
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| 21:07.31 | karsten | user__: apt-get update |
| 21:07.52 | bucky | user__, apt-get install x-window-system |
| 21:08.10 | karsten | JKL: Reformat it. 'mke2fs -J /dev/hdb2'. Note that you'll lose any data on the drive. |
| 21:08.21 | karsten | bucky: No archive. Probably didn't get package lists. |
| 21:08.32 | karsten | user__: Double check /etc/apt/sources.list and ensure it's sane. |
| 21:08.41 | mlehrer | is there a kernel parameter to tell it to load a certain module from the initrd |
| 21:08.47 | mlehrer | scsi driver |
| 21:08.48 | karsten | !tell user__ about sources.list |
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| 21:09.02 | bucky | mlehrer, man mkinitrd |
| 21:09.06 | mlehrer | i am just looking for a quick hack so i don't have to re-do mkinitrd |
| 21:09.07 | user__ | karsten i did, bucky it shows the error |
| 21:09.14 | JKL | karsten: -J nice :) |
| 21:09.16 | karsten | mlehrer: IIUC all modules are loaded. You can unpack the initrd and look at its scripts. |
| 21:09.20 | karsten | JKL: NP. |
| 21:09.34 | mlehrer | karsten: that is exactly what i don't want to screw around with if i don't have to |
| 21:09.43 | karsten | JKL: Note it's '-j' not '-J'. Lower, not UPPER. |
| 21:10.00 | user__ | my source list has 3 entrys at the moment: deb http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/ testing main deb http://deb.opera.com/opera testing non-free |
| 21:10.06 | sett | where can i find debian boot floppies with kernel 2.6? |
| 21:10.09 | JKL | karsten: thanks a lot |
| 21:10.56 | user__ | and like i said, when i do "apt-get install x-window-system" i get E: The package x11-common needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 21:11.00 | karsten | user__: Should be sane. Run /'update'. |
| 21:11.21 | user__ | karsten you mean, apt-get update? |
| 21:11.23 | karsten | user__: er, 'apt-get update' |
| 21:11.25 | karsten | user__: Yes. |
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| 21:11.34 | user__ | karsten i did |
| 21:11.42 | chovy_ | how do I find out which pkg contains libXm.so.3 |
| 21:11.52 | karsten | !tell chovy_ about search |
| 21:12.06 | chovy_ | search came up with nothing |
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| 21:12.10 | blaen | Really stupid newbie question incoming. Just formatted a disk, didn't check the default mount point, and it mounted as /user - how do I revert the changes so that it properly po ints to the old /user? |
| 21:12.22 | karsten | chovy_: Search _how_? |
| 21:12.30 | chovy_ | apt-cache search libXm.so.3 |
| 21:12.40 | bucky | mlehrer, you're supposed to be able to list the new module in /etc/mkinitrd/modules and it will be included when you build a new initrd... if you actually made the module when the kernel was compiled |
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| 21:12.54 | karsten | chovy_: aptitude install apt-file; apt-file search foo |
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| 21:13.00 | bucky | sometimes it even works |
| 21:13.03 | karsten | chovy_: ... apt-file update even. |
| 21:13.10 | chovy_ | aptitude? |
| 21:13.15 | chovy_ | i'm a newb |
| 21:13.17 | user__ | now when im trying to install anything it gives that error actuallly ;-o |
| 21:13.19 | user__ | any ideas? |
| 21:13.19 | _rene_ | blaen: parse error. |
| 21:13.26 | karsten | chovy_: usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3.0.2non-free/libs/libmotif3 |
| 21:13.31 | blaen | _rene_: ? |
| 21:13.32 | karsten | !tell chovy_ about aptitude |
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| 21:13.52 | cowbell | bit off topic, but which are the most popular keyservers people might be looking at when they only have the ID of my pubkey (or my e-mail address or whatever)? |
| 21:13.53 | user__ | oh, i forgot to mentoin that apt crashed when it was trying to install x-window-system |
| 21:13.55 | karsten | chovy_: I'd recommend it over apt-get. |
| 21:13.55 | _rene_ | blaen: I didn't understand your question.. what is your problem? |
| 21:14.06 | karsten | user__: dpkg --configure-pending -a |
| 21:14.18 | karsten | user__: ... is the usual "get me out of a jam" apt fix. |
| 21:14.23 | Cache__ | why is SATA RAID so fucking hard to get working |
| 21:14.25 | chovy_ | karsten: ok, thx |
| 21:14.29 | blaen | _rene_: I had my old FS setup just fine. Then I partitioned a new hard drive, and the default mount point - /home - for the new hard drive overrode the old /home. How do I get my old /home back? ;p |
| 21:14.30 | karsten | Cache__: To annoy you. |
| 21:14.40 | user__ | karsten dpkg: unknown option --configure-pending |
| 21:14.43 | gnufan | working through ACPI HowTo -- trying to document my laptops problems, apparently my dsdt.dsl has 4 errors and won't recompile... it sounds like I know what I'm talking about - but like how bad is that? |
| 21:14.49 | Cache__ | seriousl |
| 21:14.49 | Cache__ | y |
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| 21:15.12 | Cache__ | right now i can't insall GRUB on my Software Raid |
| 21:15.16 | Cache__ | or LILO |
| 21:15.20 | _rene_ | blaen: ah. |
| 21:15.26 | _rene_ | blaen: if I understand it correctly.... |
| 21:15.34 | _rene_ | blaen: just umount it. |
| 21:15.37 | bucky | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 21:15.37 | dpkg | hmm... sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 21:15.42 | _rene_ | should give you what's originally under /home |
| 21:15.44 | bucky | Cache__, ^^ |
| 21:15.47 | blaen | _rene_: Okay. |
| 21:16.00 | _rene_ | when you mount something over where already stuff is it's not seeable but there |
| 21:16.05 | bucky | Cache__, get the newer kernel |
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| 21:16.17 | blaen | _rene_: "umount: home: not mounted" |
| 21:16.26 | Cache__ | grubs the one being bitch though |
| 21:16.38 | karsten | user__: man dpkg |
| 21:16.48 | user__ | karsten dpkg --configure --pending -a worket, however it did not solve my problem |
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| 21:17.32 | karsten | user__: It may not have sorted the x11 install problem, but it sorted whatever might have been blocking it. Now use apt-get / aptitude. |
| 21:17.55 | bucky | Cache__, man mkinitrd |
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| 21:18.14 | Cache__ | man, Not found |
| 21:18.19 | Cache__ | i'm in Debian install |
| 21:18.28 | karsten | Cache__: Ah. RTFIM. |
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| 21:18.36 | user__ | karsten now i don't get you |
| 21:19.09 | karsten | user__: You're now back to your original problem of getting X installed rather than having broken packages. |
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| 21:19.17 | karsten | user__: 'apt-get update' |
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| 21:19.26 | Cache__ | mkinitrd doens't come up on the debain bash |
| 21:19.30 | karsten | user__: And frankly: 'apt-get install aptitude; aptitude' |
| 21:19.38 | Cache__ | wouldn't that make it useless to me |
| 21:19.39 | karsten | !friday |
| 21:19.39 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, friday is Tardsday Eve Eve |
| 21:19.48 | karsten | Cache__: Install it. |
| 21:19.59 | Cache__ | from? |
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| 21:20.18 | Cache__ | DVD 2 or internet? |
| 21:20.30 | karsten | Cache__: Ah. You're in the installer. |
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| 21:20.32 | tyranix | I always forget this. :( Is there a factoid about where to find the db of factoids from dpkg/apt bots? |
| 21:20.35 | karsten | Cache__: Sec. |
| 21:20.39 | Cache__ | alright |
| 21:20.41 | karsten | tyranix: Ask dondelelcaro |
| 21:20.43 | user__ | karsten apt-get update didn't solve the problem |
| 21:21.15 | user__ | karsten i cannot install apituide for two reasons |
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| 21:21.22 | blaen | _rene_: Any advice how to get Debian to restore the old /home now? ;p |
| 21:21.23 | karsten | Cache__: http://xtronics.com/reference/SATA-RAID-debian-for-2.6.html |
| 21:21.31 | karsten | Cache__: ... or google "install debian raid" |
| 21:21.36 | Cache__ | that's what i was following |
| 21:21.37 | karsten | user__: Do I get to guess at each? |
| 21:21.37 | Cache__ | lol |
| 21:21.40 | Cache__ | fuck |
| 21:21.44 | _rene_ | hmm. evidently I still didn't understand you completely... |
| 21:21.50 | karsten | Cache__: Could be worse. Could be my problem. |
| 21:21.54 | user__ | firstly, apt-get install apituide gives an error: E: The package x11-common needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it., secundly its already installed in newest version |
| 21:22.06 | karsten | Cache__: ... I usually shoot for a fixed root / boot partition w/ RAID systems. YMMV. |
| 21:22.08 | blaen | _rene_: I mounted a newly partitioned/formatted hard drive over my old /home. Umount didn't restore the old /home? |
| 21:22.14 | starfishy | its aptitude, not apituide |
| 21:22.39 | user__ | starfishy dons't matter |
| 21:22.57 | Cache__ | i'm about to say fuck it and install slackware |
| 21:23.00 | user__ | apt-get install x dons't work |
| 21:23.07 | karsten | Cache__: That's one solution. |
| 21:23.15 | karsten | !tell user__ about paster |
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| 21:23.21 | _rene_ | blaen: please paste the output of "mount" somewhere... |
| 21:23.26 | karsten | user__: Post your /etc/apt/sources.list there. |
| 21:23.27 | starfishy | apt-get install x-window-system |
| 21:23.39 | avarab | !tell avarab about debian |
| 21:23.55 | Cache__ | sudo rm -r / |
| 21:24.13 | starfishy | karsten: wise decision |
| 21:24.39 | user__ | karsten i've pasted it already |
| 21:24.46 | user__ | before |
| 21:24.49 | karsten | user__: Help us help you. |
| 21:25.21 | karsten | !tell user__ about esp |
| 21:25.33 | blaen | _rene_: Any advice as to where? For some reason, I'm unable to open any new programs currently. |
| 21:25.49 | karsten | user__: Posting your commands and output would also be useful. |
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| 21:25.58 | user__ | karsten i cannot post it right now |
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| 21:26.05 | user__ | i have no decent browser |
| 21:26.15 | karsten | user__: aptitude install w3m lynx links |
| 21:26.31 | karsten | user__: ... help us help you. |
| 21:27.45 | user__ | Writing extended state information... Error! |
| 21:27.45 | user__ | E: I wasn't able to locate file for the x11-common package. This might mean you |
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| 21:27.48 | user__ | need to manually fix this package. |
| 21:28.01 | user__ | karsten cannot install |
| 21:28.20 | KerPlunk | What is a good site to buy a domain and rent a box(preferably debian), and I can install stuff like php/apache2/mysql-server/phpbb/maybeother |
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| 21:28.34 | KerPlunk | I just want to make a website essentially. |
| 21:29.49 | user__ | karsten and i ve only three lines in sources.list only opera and official deiban testging |
| 21:30.10 | karsten | !tell user__ about paste |
| 21:30.14 | karsten | !tell user__ about flood |
| 21:30.33 | karsten | user__: I'm done wasting time/ |
| 21:30.46 | avar | !tell avar about life |
| 21:30.47 | karsten | s/ire/ore/ |
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| 21:31.42 | user__ | karsten fine, you wasted not only yours but also mine... |
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| 21:32.59 | Joachim` | How can i set feature "AllowOverride AuthConfig" in my apache2 configuration? |
| 21:33.15 | Joachim` | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.16 | sil3114 | Hi, what is the best for me to use on my nforce4 based motherboard, the sata nvidia controller or the silicon image 3114? |
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| 21:34.26 | skrewz | Guys, I'm thinking about backupping around 300GiB of my personal data to DVD's. The data is nicely sorted, and I'd like to do something along the lines of `$BACKUPAPP /path/to/music` and interactively change DVD's. Any suggestions? |
| 21:34.43 | cisse | Silent_al: i've had good experience with box |
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| 21:36.37 | valdyn | skrewz: why not just one harddisk for this backup? |
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| 21:37.14 | gnufan | Joachim`: the manual says it is only allow in a directory context... In the apache2.conf you could add a <directory /var/ww> |
| 21:37.16 | skrewz | valdyn: It seems rather much cheaper to purchase a bunch of DVD's. |
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| 21:37.45 | skrewz | valdyn: And, besides; I want to make sure that I don't use the space for anything else. |
| 21:37.45 | cisse | and how much is your time worth? you'ge going to switch out at least 60 dvd's |
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| 21:38.35 | skrewz | cisse: That could be rather asyncronously done, I figure. I might be a male, but I am capable of some multitasking. :) |
| 21:38.47 | goron | Can anyone please explain to me why I get this error message in emacs? Unable to load font -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--20-140-100-100-p-105-iso8859-1 |
| 21:38.58 | cisse | heh |
| 21:39.03 | cisse | skrewz: it's not an easy problem |
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| 21:39.39 | shad0w1e | how do I display all currently loaded modules with modprobe? |
| 21:39.48 | cisse | lsmod |
| 21:39.56 | shad0w1e | thanx |
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| 21:40.27 | stoned | i don't know if this is directly debian related, but it might pertain to a software package within debian. I have a lot of audio files where the filename is artist-album-title.mp3 but no tags (IDv*). is there a software that I can use to take the filename and extract the information from it and put it in tags. I searched around but was unable to find such a program |
| 21:40.38 | skrewz | cisse: Well, I know. And rather than manually parting up the files to fit them on discs, I thought there might be some application, that could do it. |
| 21:40.44 | shad0w1e | stoned, there is one for windows |
| 21:40.47 | lightbright | im trying to install Debian from DVD and it says, unable to read Grub, error 17. Any ideas what that means anyone pls? |
| 21:40.48 | shad0w1e | it's called tagscanner |
| 21:40.53 | mikeX | stoned: easytag |
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| 21:40.58 | stoned | doesn't heolp me |
| 21:41.04 | stoned | mikeX: ok, brb |
| 21:41.05 | tyranix | skrewz: And you should think about retrieving that information. I would create a text listing or preferably SQL table containing information on what's stored where. It's no fun trying out 60 disks when you need to find a backup. :) |
| 21:41.50 | mikeX | stoned: also a bunch of command line utilities, you could combine those with a script |
| 21:41.50 | karsten | stoned: There are info extractors, I don't recall names. Search is your friend. |
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| 21:41.51 | stoned | karsten: really :) |
| 21:41.51 | nikls | do Debian testing work with SATA harddrive ? (I have a new sony vaio VGN-S5M/S laptop on which I can't install ubuntu) |
| 21:41.53 | karsten | stoned: apt-cache search mp3 | grep tag | grep -v ^lib |
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| 21:42.13 | valdyn | nikls: disk controllers need different drivers each, we dont know which controller this notebook has, so we cant tell you if its supported |
| 21:42.20 | mikeX | nikls: depends on the sata controller, if ubuntu fails, chances are debian won't find it either, probably not supported by the kernel |
| 21:42.44 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 21:42.44 | dpkg | from memory, sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 21:42.53 | valdyn | nikls: feel free to try ^^^ |
| 21:42.54 | skrewz | tyranix: I figure. However, as the backup would only be used in case of disk failure -- i.e. complete recovery. |
| 21:43.05 | mikeX | nikls: are you sure ubuntu fails because of the disk? usually with new laptops there is an acpi issue with buggy bioses |
| 21:43.09 | karsten | nikls: Look at dmidecode to dump HW info on the system. |
| 21:43.13 | nikls | valdyn: what can I do to have Linux on this laptop then ? |
| 21:43.20 | tyranix | skrewz: never accidentally deleted a file? :) |
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| 21:43.52 | nikls | karsten: you mean, boot a knoppix and type dmidecode in a kernel ? |
| 21:43.58 | mikeX | nikls: well if you make sure the controller is not supported, probably nothing... |
| 21:43.59 | nikls | in a console, sorry |
| 21:44.01 | avar | what was that site that had mysql5, php5 etc. for deb sarge? |
| 21:44.03 | skrewz | tyranix: Well, not in this sort of storage. |
| 21:44.11 | karsten | nikls: s/kernel/shell/ Yes. |
| 21:44.19 | lightbright | im trying to install Debian from DVD and it says, unable to read Grub, error 17. Any ideas what that means anyone pls? |
| 21:44.33 | karsten | lightbright: I think it means that it's hit GRUB error 17. |
| 21:44.39 | karsten | lightbright: Documented in the GRUB info page. |
| 21:44.45 | valdyn | nikls: looking in the manual to see what is actually inside this notebook would be a start |
| 21:45.01 | karsten | lightbright: Thank SCO: http://docsrv.caldera.com:8457/cgi-bin/info2html?(grub.info.gz)Top |
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| 21:45.15 | mikeX | lightbright: from memory grub can't find a valid partition, LBA issue maybe? I could be wrong |
| 21:45.45 | karsten | lightbright: http://info2html.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/info2html-demo/info2html?(grub.info.gz)Stage2%2520errors |
| 21:45.55 | karsten | mikeX: Partition exists but is unreadable by GRUB. |
| 21:45.59 | lightbright | karsten: yes but the hard drifve is clean! no grub installed yet |
| 21:46.04 | nikls | valdyn: I have got a specification guide, what information can I give you ? |
| 21:46.09 | karsten | lightbright: Tell GRUB that. |
| 21:46.28 | valdyn | nikls: the sata controller |
| 21:46.30 | mikeX | lol karsten |
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| 21:47.01 | user__ | damn, i'll never use backports again |
| 21:47.38 | nikls | valdyn: Serial ATA, 5400 rpm |
| 21:47.47 | nikls | valdyn: 80GB |
| 21:48.05 | valdyn | nikls: that sounds like a harddisk |
| 21:48.11 | valdyn | nikls: i didnt ask for that |
| 21:48.12 | gnufan | avar: dotdeb |
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| 21:49.07 | avar | gnufan: thanks |
| 21:49.54 | avar | ah hell |
| 21:50.00 | avar | it doesn't support my arch |
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| 21:51.45 | deadcat | bridging+wireless+eth0 anyone? wireless connect to AP, and eth0 for my laptop setup. |
| 21:52.46 | avar | how do I get these source packages and have apt build them? |
| 21:52.51 | djbuldog | i need help with change Xorg nice :))) who help me? :) |
| 21:53.08 | valdyn | !tell djbuldog -about ask |
| 21:53.13 | azeem | avar: what arch are you on? |
| 21:53.19 | gnufan | avar: :( apt-get source, the debian reference covers basic building of packages I think. |
| 21:53.26 | avar | azeem: powerpc |
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| 21:53.45 | deadcat | avar: xorg is in testing/unstable |
| 21:54.24 | astronut | I'm trying to burn a DVD with k3b, it burns fine until the end where it goes to an error state and simply says growisofs returned an error code, but doesn't say what |
| 21:54.36 | avar | deadcat: I don't want to run xorg.. |
| 21:54.44 | gnufan | avar: I think when I asked on Debian-Administration.org that gave ~dexter as an alternative source - no idea if it has other arch. |
| 21:54.55 | avar | gnufan: I can just build it;) |
| 21:54.57 | valdyn | astronut: you're trying to overburn that dvd ? |
| 21:55.16 | astronut | valdyn: wasn't trying to, data is only 3.1 gig, it's a 4.7 gig CD |
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| 21:55.52 | gnufan | avar: you'll be running gentoo next -- dotdeb does seem to get a fair few updates (not that I'm complaining...). |
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| 21:56.13 | djbuldog | valdyn, ok.. I was installing debian and set X server priority to -10. Now I need change it but I dont know where is it. |
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| 21:56.33 | nikls | karsten, mikeX, valdyn: I have run dmidecode, what infomations would you needfrom it ? |
| 21:56.38 | avar | gnufan: I just came from gentoo |
| 21:56.47 | slug_ | hello all, does someone know a good program to test my graficcard? |
| 21:56.54 | mikeX | nikls: i have no idea :/ |
| 21:57.04 | djbuldog | slug_, glxgears? |
| 21:57.08 | valdyn | djbuldog: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common |
| 21:57.08 | sean_micken | slug_: glxgears... |
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| 21:57.28 | slug_ | slug_ yes, but i need to test it for any kind of errors |
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| 21:57.32 | astronut | valdyn: it's happened twice |
| 21:57.43 | infoB | hello, can anyone tell me how to echo input in tiny fugue? |
| 21:58.14 | valdyn | astronut: you could just use 'growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=file.iso' |
| 21:58.33 | valdyn | astronut: ( at least to get a useful error message ) |
| 21:59.01 | astronut | valdyn: how does growisofs work? |
| 21:59.04 | astronut | i'm not familiar with it? |
| 21:59.16 | valdyn | astronut: i just told you |
| 21:59.26 | astronut | i mean, what's the proccess |
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| 22:00.16 | djbuldog | valdyn, woooooooow.. thanx!! Can I manual change nice? Where it is set? I look at /etc and nothing there |
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| 22:00.55 | valdyn | djbuldog: you shouldnt do that |
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| 22:02.02 | Q-FUNK | anybody who could explain to me again hwo to get a kernel to load SCSI drivers from the initrd.img (cramfs) image, so that it can access root on a SCSI drive? I'm upgrading an old 2.4 system without any initrd into Sarge with a 2.6 kernel. |
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| 22:02.15 | valdyn | astronut: i have no idea which piece of the above growisofs command you dont understand |
| 22:02.33 | astronut | valdyn: i was asking what role growisofs plays in the burning proccess |
| 22:02.41 | valdyn | astronut: it does the burning |
| 22:02.45 | astronut | ok, thank you |
| 22:02.53 | astronut | i thought cdrao did that |
| 22:03.03 | PeQua | Hello, my microphone is not working (sound works). I'm trying to find out how i can get my microphone working, but i have no idea where to look for it. Can someone give me some hints? |
| 22:03.07 | valdyn | astronut: dvd burning doesnt work like cd burning |
| 22:03.14 | astronut | ok |
| 22:03.18 | nikls | how to know if my computer is a x86 or a x86-64 ? |
| 22:03.21 | valdyn | astronut: cdrdao is for cds primarily |
| 22:03.43 | deadcat | nikls: if you dont know. then its x86 |
| 22:03.46 | astronut | i found the debugging output on this, so testing a burn, doing file didn't seem to work right (it insisted on a dvd, and failed w/ a already done disk in drive) |
| 22:03.55 | nikls | deadcat: it's a centrino |
| 22:04.03 | deadcat | so |
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| 22:04.29 | thingfish | there are no x86-64 centrinos, so... |
| 22:04.33 | loafy | What's the SQL command to add an entry to a row if the entry doesn't exist (key doesn't exist) but to update the entry if the row does exist (key does exist) |
| 22:04.41 | thingfish | unless it's in a lab somewhere. |
| 22:04.49 | deadcat | bridging+wlan0+eth0 anyone? wlan0 connect to AP, and eth0 for my laptop setup. |
| 22:06.08 | valdyn | deadcat: i dont understand what your goal is |
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| 22:07.09 | deadcat | valdyn: i have an AP, i need my wireless card to connect to it. and i want my laptop to connect to the desktop's eth0 so i can bridge the laptop |
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| 22:07.13 | we2by | helo |
| 22:07.28 | we2by | is there a script on debian to configure debian using a wizard? |
| 22:07.38 | we2by | configure samba* |
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| 22:08.16 | valdyn | !wizard |
| 22:08.17 | dpkg | hmm... wizard is An enhancement to programs that makes them easier to operate by guiding you through, step by step, what is required to achieve your purpose. at http://www.photo.net/nz/klaus-and-stefan#wizard, or subtle and quick to anger |
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| 22:08.36 | LucianSolaris | hey guys, i'm back, in one piece, with a base system! |
| 22:08.38 | deadcat | we2by: ya. install swat |
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| 22:08.52 | thingfish | yay! for LucianSolaris |
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| 22:09.22 | loafy | hrm... anyone in here know SQL ;< |
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| 22:09.34 | Ryushin | Okay, I had a large file system corruption, and I think I'm most of the way through it. However, debsums hangs after going through it's database for awhile. I assume that debsums is querying some database for this. I'm guessing this file is corrupted. Is there a way to rebuild the file/database that debsum uses? |
| 22:09.58 | LucianSolaris | now i got a few questions... how do i set dhcp to 'background', how do i get sound to work on my ATI IXP AC'97 soundcard using ALSA, and i may need help on the ATI thing (i dun have those links no more :\ ) |
| 22:10.09 | flodine | well is 64 bit debian got most of the software 32 bit got |
| 22:10.24 | valdyn | Ryushin: /var/lib/dpkg/*md5sums ? |
| 22:10.52 | pearl | LucianSolaris: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:10.55 | pearl | man interfaces |
| 22:11.04 | gnufan | loafy: "insert or update" works in some DB... why ask here we are system people we know nothing... we just create the chaos ;) |
| 22:11.13 | valdyn | flodine: there's quite a few 64-bit debians |
| 22:11.16 | flodine | well anyone on 64 bit |
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| 22:11.28 | loggygreg | yes flodline |
| 22:11.29 | Mardus | Hi. |
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| 22:11.40 | LucianSolaris | pearl: no such directory |
| 22:11.50 | pearl | LucianSolaris: for the sound, modprobe i810_audio; modprobe ac97 |
| 22:11.57 | pearl | LucianSolaris: lol, are you using debian? |
| 22:12.02 | flodine | is 64 bit still missing programs that are not ready |
| 22:12.14 | LucianSolaris | pearl O.o interfaces isn't a dir (DoH! |
| 22:12.15 | LucianSolaris | ) |
| 22:12.19 | loggygreg | flodline: yes |
| 22:12.20 | pearl | yes |
| 22:12.30 | pearl | interfaces is a file |
| 22:12.47 | pearl | in man interfaces you find what to wrote in it to setup dhcp and other network stuff |
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| 22:13.01 | pearl | LucianSolaris: for the sound load this two modules |
| 22:13.01 | valdyn | deadcat: that's a few things at once, what's not working? |
| 22:13.06 | PeQua | Hello, my microphone is not working (sound works). I'm trying to find out how i can get my microphone working, but i have no idea where to look for it. Can someone give me some hints? (my soundcard: RealTek ALC850, AC797 V2.3) |
| 22:13.10 | we2by | damnit |
| 22:13.14 | pearl | i810_audio and ac97 |
| 22:13.17 | we2by | it looks like samba started successfully |
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| 22:13.32 | we2by | but connection refused when trying to list shares o localhost |
| 22:13.35 | LucianSolaris | i have snd_atiixp under lsmod |
| 22:13.36 | Mardus | I wanted to setup a loca apache webserver, so I could test my webpages offline, but I've run into problems. First off, when I booted the computer, an apache message said it could not find a domain name and set it to 127.0.0.1, which was fine, but I couldn't access it. I use Debian 3.0. |
| 22:13.36 | Mardus | * local |
| 22:13.39 | LucianSolaris | i modprobed both of what you said |
| 22:13.41 | loafy | gnufan: yea i know insert/update... im asking here cuz i was in the channel is all :P, thought someone might know off the top of their head, apparently not... ill look it up. |
| 22:13.52 | pearl | LucianSolaris: does your sound work? |
| 22:14.08 | deadcat | valdyn: when i setup br0, it wont dclient and ip for br0, static seems ok. but then laptop wont go anywhere except ablt to ping the desktop via eth0 |
| 22:14.14 | LucianSolaris | pearl: on my laptop, i have a mute button, it's lit, and gnome shows a mute icon in the upper right |
| 22:14.24 | gnufan | loafy: No I meant some database allow a statement starting "insert or update".... |
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| 22:14.59 | pearl | LucianSolaris: run modprobe i810_audio and look if the mute sign is still there |
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| 22:15.28 | LucianSolaris | pearl: still there |
| 22:15.29 | loafy | gnufan: oh. im using mysql, don't think it has that syntax... but i thought update would insert a row if you tried to update a row with a key that didn't exist, but apparently not... don't know what i thought that |
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| 22:15.45 | loafy | ^what^why |
| 22:15.49 | pearl | try cat /boot/your_kernel /dev/dspX |
| 22:16.02 | pearl | oeh |
| 22:16.03 | pearl | wait |
| 22:16.04 | dondelelcaro | loafy: nah, it won't. There's a replace into syntax which will often do the same thing |
| 22:16.06 | astronut | valdyn: i'm looknig at the output now |
| 22:16.14 | pearl | cat /boot/your_kernel > /dev/dspX |
| 22:16.21 | LucianSolaris | me? |
| 22:16.23 | astronut | says it didn't exit cleantly but |
| 22:16.31 | pearl | yes, LucianSolaris |
| 22:16.32 | astronut | /dev/hdd: flushing cache |
| 22:16.32 | astronut | /dev/hdd: closing track |
| 22:16.32 | astronut | /dev/hdd: closing session |
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| 22:16.57 | valdyn | astronut: and that before its finished? |
| 22:17.03 | we2by | this is pissing me off |
| 22:17.22 | astronut | valdyn: i guess..k3b only lets you pull up the log after it's done |
| 22:17.29 | LucianSolaris | is it vmlinuz.x.y.z? |
| 22:17.41 | Mardus | Then what I think is attempting to start apache through /etc/init.d/apache start |
| 22:17.50 | astronut | valdyn: http://dlgeek.net/log |
| 22:17.56 | Mardus | Then I get message Starting web server: apachefailed |
| 22:18.04 | pearl | LucianSolaris: yes |
| 22:18.08 | LucianSolaris | done |
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| 22:18.14 | pearl | LucianSolaris: do you hear a sound? |
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| 22:18.23 | pearl | hear anything? |
| 22:18.25 | bazz | is there a good command line linux bt client. key features would be an easy way to enqueue new torrents and good management of downloaded torrents (i.e. and easy way to make sure they don't get downloaded again) |
| 22:18.30 | LucianSolaris | no |
| 22:18.35 | pearl | LucianSolaris: ok, hm |
| 22:18.57 | dondelelcaro | bazz: rtorrent. |
| 22:18.58 | we2by | bazz, btdownloadcurses |
| 22:19.03 | valdyn | astronut: no error there |
| 22:19.13 | astronut | valdyn: *nod* |
| 22:19.16 | astronut | that's why I'm confused |
| 22:19.20 | gnufan | loafy: found it in the manual for mysql "INSERT ... ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE " |
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| 22:19.24 | astronut | i assume it returned nonzero |
| 22:19.28 | LucianSolaris | pearl: sorry, i'm a winblows guy with limited linux knowledge :( |
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| 22:19.42 | loafy | gnufan: awesome! thanks :) |
| 22:20.19 | djbuldog | vulture, How can I change kayboard map on ttyX? |
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| 22:20.32 | astronut | and it doesn't seem to read the dvd correctly, not sure |
| 22:21.07 | loggygreg | which c'est que pour les exec |
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| 22:21.24 | loggygreg | sorr- wrong window |
| 22:21.44 | we2by | It looks like samba started successfully, but I can connect |
| 22:21.48 | bazz | dondelelcaro: does rtorrent have an easy way to enqueue new torrents (like without being in front of the computer) |
| 22:21.49 | we2by | or list the shares |
| 22:21.55 | we2by | http://pastebin.com/526454 |
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| 22:22.08 | valdyn | astronut: you could cmp your iso image and /dev/hdd |
| 22:22.16 | loggygreg | oui dsl |
| 22:22.25 | valdyn | astronut: ( no idea if k3b leaves that iso behind somewhere ) |
| 22:22.26 | loggygreg | re the last |
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| 22:22.33 | LucianSolaris | please tell me someone here can help me! |
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| 22:23.24 | djbuldog | valdyn, How can I change kayboard map on ttyX? |
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| 22:23.38 | Mardus | I also have a problem locally acessing the CUPS Software Administrators Manual through http://localhost:631/documentation.html. In Lynx I get this error: socket fialed: family 10 addr ::1 port 631. |
| 22:23.44 | valdyn | !keymap |
| 22:23.44 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
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| 22:24.19 | valdyn | Mardus: ifconfig -a |
| 22:24.33 | valdyn | Mardus: are you using a custom kernel? |
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| 22:24.59 | LucianSolaris | hey, anyone have experience with an ati ixp soundcard? |
| 22:25.03 | LucianSolaris | ac97 |
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| 22:25.13 | valdyn | !which driver |
| 22:25.13 | dpkg | Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver supports your device. |
| 22:25.20 | GomoX | dondelelcaro: you around? |
| 22:25.21 | Mardus | valdyn: I am using woody |
| 22:25.28 | GomoX | I finally debootstrapped the image |
| 22:25.40 | dondelelcaro | GomoX: ? |
| 22:25.44 | valdyn | Mardus: good to know, but i did not ask that |
| 22:25.54 | GomoX | Downloading again worked. But now, when booting UML, it doesn't get past "activating swap" |
| 22:26.00 | Mardus | valdyn: 2.4.18-1-386 |
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| 22:26.10 | valdyn | Mardus: ok |
| 22:26.11 | GomoX | I get "INIT 2.86 booting" but it stops right there |
| 22:26.16 | valdyn | Mardus: ifconfig -a |
| 22:26.35 | dondelelcaro | GomoX: uh... if init can start, you've got a problem, since that's the first thing that runs after the kernel mounts the drive |
| 22:26.37 | Mardus | valdyn: one is for eth0, the other for lo. Which is of interest to you? |
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| 22:26.38 | dondelelcaro | s/can/can't/ |
| 22:26.41 | LucianSolaris | snd-atiixp |
| 22:26.43 | LucianSolaris | is the dvr |
| 22:26.46 | LucianSolaris | *drv |
| 22:26.51 | valdyn | Mardus: lo |
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| 22:26.59 | dondelelcaro | GomoX: but that's really a UML issue since it works just fine in real woody systems |
| 22:27.06 | mfdutra | does somebody understand well of debian-installer? |
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| 22:27.13 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: just ask your question |
| 22:27.17 | GomoX | dondelelcaro: i got sarge finally, since i downloaded again |
| 22:27.20 | mfdutra | I need to boot d-i with a patched kernel |
| 22:27.22 | mfdutra | sarge |
| 22:27.27 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: why? |
| 22:27.41 | mfdutra | because of my raid controller |
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| 22:27.48 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: which raid controller? |
| 22:27.51 | Mardus | valdyn: How many lines you need to know of that? |
| 22:27.58 | valdyn | !paste |
| 22:27.58 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 22:28.03 | valdyn | Mardus: jsut paste it all |
| 22:28.03 | mfdutra | adaptec with host raid |
| 22:28.05 | gnufan | mfdutra: did you try Etch installer? |
| 22:28.17 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: which adaptec card? |
| 22:28.19 | mfdutra | gnufan, yes, it doesn't support the adaptec's host raid |
| 22:28.23 | mfdutra | 7902 |
| 22:28.31 | mfdutra | it detects all discs one by one |
| 22:28.34 | mfdutra | not the array |
| 22:28.38 | dondelelcaro | the 7902 should be supported by the ac79xx driver. |
| 22:28.47 | mfdutra | yes I know |
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| 22:28.52 | mfdutra | because the hostraid feature no |
| 22:28.54 | Yokalosh | i'm having trouble installing the nvidia graphics drivers (for geforce fx etc) |
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| 22:28.58 | mfdutra | s/because/but/ |
| 22:29.03 | Yokalosh | anyone know where i can find a good guide? |
| 22:29.06 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: the hostraid features sounds like some sort of software raid then. |
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| 22:29.11 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: doubtfull that that is supported at all |
| 22:29.21 | astronut | valdyn: i get IO errors when I read off the dvd |
| 22:29.24 | Mardus | valdyn: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1655 |
| 22:29.25 | mfdutra | drivers from adaptec says so |
| 22:29.30 | mfdutra | that's supported |
| 22:29.44 | astronut | valdyn: see paste |
| 22:30.08 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: then build the drivers agains the kernel-headers corresponding to the d-i image that you're using and load them, then configure the drives |
| 22:30.14 | astronut | valdyn: err, flood |
| 22:30.17 | rredd4 | is there a virtual machine software that i can get so that i can run debian and windows xp until i get debian configured? |
| 22:30.19 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: you can stick them on a floppy or usb device assuming you have them. |
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| 22:30.52 | valdyn | Mardus: so you havent configured your lo |
| 22:31.05 | stoned | rredd4: might not be what you are looking for, but to learn debian while using windows, try ; colinux ; |
| 22:31.09 | valdyn | Mardus: did you for some reason change this in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:31.14 | mfdutra | I'll try that |
| 22:31.25 | Mardus | valdyn: Maybe; I don't know |
| 22:31.34 | mfdutra | but is it possible to replace vmlinuz in the install directory and regenerate the cd? |
| 22:31.41 | mfdutra | I have a kernel that seems to work fine |
| 22:32.06 | valdyn | Mardus: try 'ifconfig lo up' ( as root ) |
| 22:32.13 | astronut | valdyn: can i manually burn or something? |
| 22:32.23 | astronut | i don't know why this is failing, but it's failed 3 times |
| 22:32.24 | mfdutra | actually I did that. the kernel booted fine, loaded initrd, and then said "no init found" |
| 22:32.32 | Mardus | valdyn: I have a hash before iface lo inet looback; Should I uncomment it? |
| 22:32.35 | rredd4 | also, I tried to apt get irssi.. but it could not find it.. I also tried apt cache search irssi, nothing |
| 22:32.38 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: not unless your kenrel built into it that the Debian kernel needs. |
| 22:32.47 | mfdutra | I kept the same initrd that was in cd |
| 22:32.48 | mfdutra | I did that |
| 22:32.50 | LucianSolaris | brb |
| 22:32.50 | Mardus | valdyn: That pertained to /etc/network/interfaces... |
| 22:32.51 | dondelelcaro | rredd4: it's irssi-text, and it will show up if you search for it with apt-cache search irssi; |
| 22:32.53 | valdyn | astronut: create an iso however you want, k3b can do that, burn with growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=file.iso |
| 22:32.57 | mfdutra | initrd, devfs, tmpfs |
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| 22:33.02 | mfdutra | just like in d-i documentation |
| 22:33.11 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: clearly not if it was unable to load the init. |
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| 22:33.15 | K-Pax | I'm a total newbe with linux, installed Mepis 3.3.1 today and already up and running, thogh I have to reconfigure my audigy 2 soundcard everytime I reboot, does anyone recognize this? |
| 22:33.16 | mfdutra | I just kept the same initrd that already had in cd |
| 22:33.19 | rredd4 | dondelecaro: k ty |
| 22:33.21 | valdyn | Mardus: yea |
| 22:33.33 | ronin | K-Pax: mepis? think you missed your target by a bit |
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| 22:33.45 | mfdutra | the point is that whether or not I need to regenerate initrd after replacing the kernel |
| 22:33.56 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: yes, you will have to do that too. |
| 22:34.00 | stew | K-Pax: please go to #mepis for quiestions about Mepis |
| 22:34.04 | mfdutra | btw, I don't need to load any modules |
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| 22:34.10 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: doesn't matter |
| 22:34.16 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: and it has to be the same version of the kernel that you took the initrd from as well |
| 22:34.36 | mfdutra | what from kernel goes into initrd? |
| 22:34.37 | usn | hi there |
| 22:34.41 | valdyn | astronut: this message just tells you that the dvd is broken, but that doesnt necessarily mean its the first reason ( could be a broken drive just aswell ) |
| 22:34.42 | mfdutra | anything but modules? |
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| 22:34.55 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: normally modules do, but in the d-i the initrd is responsible for mounting and setting up the intial root device used in the install. |
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| 22:35.10 | valdyn | astronut: or it could be that you are running the burn with 'emulation mode' enabled |
| 22:35.17 | astronut | valdyn: that was read, not burn |
| 22:35.19 | dondelelcaro | mfdutra: if you've got a kernel that you know works and can boot the machine, get debootstrap onto it, and use debootstrap to install the machine manually instead. |
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| 22:35.30 | valdyn | astronut: aye i know |
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| 22:35.46 | mfdutra | hmm |
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| 22:35.54 | astronut | it didn't write the image because the tmp directory didn't have enough freespace |
| 22:35.57 | astronut | so it did it on the fly |
| 22:36.02 | astronut | that may have been the issue, i don't know |
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| 22:38.01 | we2by | sucker |
| 22:38.03 | we2by | ops |
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| 22:38.21 | Frem | Is there some sort of graphical process list tool in the debian packages? I'm having trouble finding one |
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| 22:39.14 | valdyn | astronut: the growisofs debugging messages are missing from what you pasted, so i guess there probably was an error, and its not showing |
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| 22:39.29 | dondelelcaro | Frem: there are a few, it just depends what you want them to do. ps axfu; is generally far better than any of them, of course. |
| 22:39.30 | Mardus | valdyn: ifconfig lo up, no errors |
| 22:39.33 | Mardus | valdyn: Oh, I did ifup lo, too. |
| 22:39.38 | astronut | valdyn: ok |
| 22:39.47 | astronut | is -v verbose for groisofs? |
| 22:39.51 | valdyn | astronut: just free some space and burn with growisofs directly |
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| 22:40.05 | astronut | valdyn: i have othe rpartitions, that's what i'm doing |
| 22:40.06 | valdyn | astronut: no, no switch is needed |
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| 22:40.21 | rredd4 | i am seting up colinux. I have debian already installed. Do I have to select a colinux root file system image since i have sarge installed? |
| 22:40.29 | Red_Cloud | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:40.46 | valdyn | Red_Cloud: you dont, grub is fine |
| 22:40.56 | Frem | dondelelcaro: I pretty much just want a windows-like "ctrl-alt-delete" type dialog box so I can kill off these 20 something stalled apps. |
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| 22:40.58 | tyranix | dondelelcaro: Is the dpkg/apt bot database online somewhere? I thought it was at some website but I can't remember where. Or is it a factoid? |
| 22:41.01 | DeadlyNinja | what is the preferred way to add TTF fonts so that they play well with defoma et al? |
| 22:41.07 | Mardus | valdyn: I did ifconfig lo up and there were no errors; I did ifup lo and here the result: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1656, now I can access 127.0.0.1:631. |
| 22:41.11 | Mardus | Thanks. |
| 22:41.14 | dondelelcaro | !your factoids |
| 22:41.14 | dpkg | My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. there is a searchable database of my factoids at http://dpkg.vireo.org/ |
| 22:41.21 | tyranix | ahh thanks |
| 22:41.22 | Mardus | valdyn: Thanks. |
| 22:41.30 | valdyn | Mardus: welcome |
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| 22:41.58 | Gnea | !truetype |
| 22:41.58 | dpkg | it has been said that truetype is at truetype debian howto http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html and to get truetype fonts working fine with debian, apt-get install xfstt (or xfsxtt), copy your fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype, type (as root) /etc/init.d/xfstt restart, and echo "xset fp+ unix/:7101" >> ~/.xinitrc as the user that will be running X, and you're done. xfree86-4 "howto" at ... |
| 22:42.02 | dondelelcaro | Frem: just pop open a terminal, and use ps axfu|less; to see what programs are dead/missing then kill them using kill |
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| 22:43.37 | DeadlyNinja | Gnea, thanks |
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| 22:44.06 | rredd4 | please help. i am seting up colinux. I have debian already installed. Do I have to select a colinux root file system image since i have sarge installed? |
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| 22:44.31 | cisse | probably not |
| 22:44.37 | cisse | we don't know anything about colinux |
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| 22:44.50 | cisse | hrm what's the best way to copy an audio cd and rip it with cdrecord |
| 22:44.50 | rredd4 | ok.. |
| 22:45.00 | avar | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html states how to build a package from source, I can do "apt-get -b source package" but not "apt-get source package" and then "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b", what commands should I be running? |
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| 22:46.58 | avar | Rancorwe:/tmp/src# dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b |
| 22:46.59 | avar | dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory |
| 22:46.59 | avar | dpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package |
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| 22:47.15 | lunitik | cisse: you don't rip things with cdrecord... cdparanoia |
| 22:47.27 | jhaig | Is it possible to play wmv files (version 9) in Totem? Alternatively, is it possible to convert wmv files into some other format? |
| 22:47.56 | lunitik | jhaig: use the xine backend, and grab w32codecs from marillat |
| 22:48.01 | lunitik | !w32codecs |
| 22:48.02 | dpkg | somebody said w32codecs was a package, not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues, that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway |
| 22:48.09 | lunitik | !marillat |
| 22:48.09 | dpkg | somebody said marillat was (from memory, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid>) |
| 22:48.18 | lunitik | yuh.. go there |
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| 22:48.38 | jhaig | Thanks |
| 22:48.48 | lunitik | jhaig: have fun with your pr0n :P |
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| 22:49.20 | jhaig | linitik: :-P It's the first episode of the new sitcom here in the UK based on IT workers. |
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| 22:49.26 | LucianSolaris | OH MY GOD my ati card and opengl work out of the box!!!! |
| 22:49.28 | KyleHunt | hello |
| 22:49.39 | resiak | zomg |
| 22:49.39 | LucianSolaris | BUT |
| 22:49.46 | resiak | wtflolololol |
| 22:49.50 | KyleHunt | I have a stupid question :( |
| 22:50.01 | lunitik | !stupid question |
| 22:50.01 | dpkg | There're no stupid questions, but a lot of inquisitive idiots. |
| 22:50.07 | Mardus | LOL |
| 22:50.08 | KyleHunt | lol |
| 22:50.08 | LucianSolaris | like most of the opengl screensavers don't show anything in the preview under the control panel in kde |
| 22:50.13 | LucianSolaris | hey |
| 22:50.21 | jhaig | I am an inquisitive idiot |
| 22:50.23 | KyleHunt | I ordered 14 sarge cd's |
| 22:50.24 | LucianSolaris | does anyone know how to show if mesagl or fglrx is being used? |
| 22:50.36 | KyleHunt | and when they came, I tried installing debian |
| 22:50.39 | KyleHunt | and it was succesful |
| 22:50.46 | KyleHunt | but I dont have a desktop environment |
| 22:50.48 | Mardus | I am not an idiot, though I don't know many things and I am inquisitive, sometimes. |
| 22:50.53 | KyleHunt | only a command prompt |
| 22:50.59 | sett | heh |
| 22:51.03 | KyleHunt | and I was wondering if anyone would point me in the right direction ? |
| 22:51.21 | Mardus | KyleHunt: What are your computer's specs? |
| 22:51.24 | azeem | KyleHunt: tasksel |
| 22:51.25 | LucianSolaris | kylehunt i've been trying to get them to do that for me, but so far i haven't had too much luck O.o |
| 22:51.35 | psychonate | er, if a person asks questions all the time because he's inquisitive, wouldn't he eventually be bound to acquire a good bit of knowledge, and, therefore, not be an idiot? |
| 22:51.40 | LucianSolaris | maybe i should change my name |
| 22:51.40 | Mardus | LucianSolaris: You can do that all yourself. |
| 22:51.48 | KyleHunt | Mardus, x86 processor |
| 22:52.13 | gnufan | KyleHunt: Two usual causes - 1 not picking one when it gave you a choice, 2 X not working right, in which case you'll need to check /var/log/XF86<mumble>.log |
| 22:52.13 | Mardus | KyleHunt: No, I mean, whether it's Pentium and then what, how much MHz, how much RAM and stuff like that? I can then suggest something. |
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| 22:52.24 | LucianSolaris | mardus: have you any experience in figuring out why an ac97 card, after doing a modprobe ac97, doesn't put out sound? |
| 22:52.25 | KyleHunt | Pentium D 3.0ghz dual core |
| 22:52.37 | KyleHunt | 1 gb, 160gb hd |
| 22:52.52 | LucianSolaris | and mardus: is there missing opengl screensavers by default? |
| 22:53.12 | th0ger | Hi, I have mounted my dos-partition from fstab with options 'vfat user,umask=000'. All files are then mounted with '-rwxrwxrwx root root'. Root can write to the partition, but users cannot! why are they not allowed? |
| 22:53.16 | gnufan | KyleHunt: Oh and do install an SMP kernel with that sort of CPU - I don't think it is a default in Sarge, but it is only one command. |
| 22:53.27 | Mardus | LucianSolaris: It depends on what you have. I don't know about sound, because I don't have experience with it. Get Knoppix LiveCD, see if it works from there. |
| 22:53.39 | KyleHunt | ok |
| 22:53.45 | Mardus | KyleHunt: You'll do fine with kde or gnome. What's your flavour? |
| 22:53.47 | LucianSolaris | mardus: who can i talk to then? |
| 22:53.50 | KyleHunt | kde |
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| 22:53.58 | KyleHunt | becuase of Kdevelop and Kate |
| 22:54.10 | KyleHunt | I scanned all of the 14 cd's |
| 22:54.15 | Mardus | KyleHunt: Do you have X working, at least? |
| 22:54.27 | KyleHunt | I dont think so... Just the prompt |
| 22:54.32 | djbuldog | I need have wireless.h in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include/linux/wireless.h but it is in source tree only. I have kernel compiled by my hand and I dont known what missing in .config. |
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| 22:54.48 | KyleHunt | I used the debian-installer |
| 22:54.50 | azeem | 23:45 < azeem> KyleHunt: tasksel |
| 22:54.56 | KyleHunt | what is that? |
| 22:55.00 | azeem | it's a program |
| 22:55.01 | K350 | Hi! Does any one know how I can install x in Debian? apt-get install what? |
| 22:55.11 | starfishy | apt-get install x-window-system |
| 22:55.12 | azeem | K350: x-window-system |
| 22:55.13 | KyleHunt | wow. Im screwed. |
| 22:55.15 | Mardus | KyleHunt: In prompt, do startx -- see what happens and tell me what you see and if there's just an error line, tell me too. |
| 22:55.20 | KyleHunt | ok |
| 22:55.33 | KyleHunt | one moment mardus. |
| 22:55.51 | K350 | Thank you!:-) |
| 22:56.35 | Mardus | I forgot to tell him that if he gets to twm (or that gray background), he'd have to press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to the prompt again |
| 22:57.13 | LucianSolaris | i need a driver link for ati radeon mobility 9000 |
| 22:57.18 | LucianSolaris | please |
| 22:57.28 | KyleHunt | lol |
| 22:57.29 | Mardus | LucianSolaris: How new is ATI Radeon Mobility 9000? |
| 22:57.31 | starfishy | well, ctrl+alt+backspace is better, because you want X dead for the next attempt anyway |
| 22:57.39 | KyleHunt | it says startx command not found |
| 22:57.39 | Mardus | starfishy: Right |
| 22:57.51 | LucianSolaris | mardus: 1.5 years, it resides in an HP Pavilion zv5000t CTO Notebook PC |
| 22:57.57 | starfishy | lucian: should work with the xorg ati driver |
| 22:57.58 | KyleHunt | Debian~#: bash- startx command not found |
| 22:58.05 | starfishy | thats what I run my mobility M7 with |
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| 22:58.13 | LucianSolaris | starfishy it uses the mesa drivers for DRI |
| 22:58.16 | Mardus | KyleHunt: Do you know your away around apt-get? |
| 22:58.25 | KyleHunt | not particuraly |
| 22:58.26 | Mardus | * your way |
| 22:58.28 | starfishy | oh, you are looking for 3D? |
| 22:58.34 | LucianSolaris | starfishy yes |
| 22:58.36 | starfishy | if so you need the ATI factory drivers |
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| 22:58.41 | azeem | KyleHunt: I still recommend tasksel |
| 22:58.46 | Mardus | KyleHunt: what video adapter you use? |
| 22:58.50 | KyleHunt | I dont even know how to use that azeem |
| 22:58.54 | sjv | I second that |
| 22:58.54 | LucianSolaris | starfishy yea, and do they >WORK<? |
| 22:58.56 | azeem | KyleHunt: did you try ti? |
| 22:58.57 | azeem | eh, it |
| 22:59.04 | starfishy | Kyle:just type X |
| 22:59.09 | starfishy | should start X just fine |
| 22:59.12 | sjv | KyleHunt: try tasksel |
| 22:59.22 | starfishy | wont be pretty but for the first attempt that should be ok |
| 22:59.22 | KyleHunt | by just typing tasksel? |
| 22:59.25 | azeem | KyleHunt: yes |
| 22:59.27 | sjv | yep |
| 22:59.33 | KyleHunt | k |
| 22:59.33 | starfishy | lucian: supposedly they do |
| 22:59.36 | starfishy | i never tried them |
| 22:59.41 | starfishy | the mobility M7 is slow enough |
| 23:00.00 | starfishy | i run Nvidia in all my desktops for a reason |
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| 23:00.23 | rutski89 | I see that there's no --with-libdvdread= option in the mplayer source, and I have libdvdread in a non stanrdard location that configure will miss if i don't tell it where to look; what should I do? |
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| 23:02.01 | resiak | Why not ask #mplayer? |
| 23:02.32 | K350 | I've installed x ..but how to start it? |
| 23:02.45 | azeem | K350: startx |
| 23:03.27 | azeem | K350: or /etc/init.d/xdm start |
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| 23:03.35 | K350 | hm..do've to restart my computer after I've installed x? |
| 23:03.42 | azeem | restart? |
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| 23:03.53 | azeem | K350: why do you want to restart? |
| 23:04.56 | De_Mon | how do I disable postfix from listening on port 25? |
| 23:05.16 | sjv | De_Mon: uninstall it |
| 23:05.35 | azeem | sjv: that's not so easy, as other packages tend to depen on an MTA |
| 23:05.36 | Mardus | KyleHunt: You can type x and see what happens and if you get to X, then Ctrl+Backspace, you could then go to tasksel. |
| 23:05.37 | Mardus | KyleHunt: taksel is a program which is supposed to help people install software by selecting a task (such as X Window System) and then installing it. I prefer apt-get, because I believe I can avoid getting stuff that I don't quite want. |
| 23:05.50 | Mardus | KyleHunt: I was wondering if the computer you have is new, but apparently it is, as per the specs given to you. |
| 23:05.53 | sjv | azeem: yep cron and stuff, right |
| 23:06.16 | De_Mon | sjv wow, what a helpful answer... I still want local mail delivery. |
| 23:06.24 | starfishy | kyle: try X -probeonly |
| 23:06.29 | starfishy | and see whether that spits out errors |
| 23:06.44 | sjv | De_Mon: I didn't know that |
| 23:06.47 | Mardus | K350: You don't have to restart Linux most of the time, after having installed software. |
| 23:07.27 | sjv | De_Mon: not a postfix guy myself (Exim), so I won't be of any more help, I guess... |
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| 23:08.14 | starfishy | k350: the only reasons to restart linux after software install would be either a new kernel or potentially a major version upgrade of one of the core libraries |
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| 23:08.39 | K350 | I understand..but ...here's what I got when I tried to start x---> |
| 23:08.40 | K350 | Using authority file /home/keso/.Xauthority |
| 23:08.40 | K350 | Writing authority file /home/keso/.Xauthority |
| 23:08.40 | K350 | Using authority file /home/keso/.Xauthority |
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| 23:08.54 | Mardus | hehe |
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| 23:09.52 | gozz | could somone please tell me what is the command to set the default volume in alsa? |
| 23:10.28 | gozz | i thought it was alsach store |
| 23:10.39 | gozz | but i guess not |
| 23:10.54 | virtu | Hi.. I have Debian installed in my pc and I want to upgrade libc6 to libc6 2.3.5-12 ... Have I just get libc6 2.3.5-12 deb package or any other dependencies? |
| 23:11.06 | azeem | virtu: why do you need that? |
| 23:11.06 | PeQua | Hello, my microphone is not working (sound works). I'm trying to find out how i can get my microphone working, but i have no idea where to look for it. Can someone give me some hints? (my soundcard: RealTek ALC850, AC797 V2.3) |
| 23:11.21 | virtu | azeem to install cxacru deb package |
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| 23:11.30 | virtu | azeem to try to make an USB modem works |
| 23:11.32 | azeem | virtu: can't you get it as backport? |
| 23:11.57 | azeem | virtu: or rebuild it yourself? |
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| 23:12.09 | virtu | azeem on linux I dont have internet access because I have an USB modem that wont work on it |
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| 23:12.23 | K350 | I don't understand what's wrong... |
| 23:12.33 | KyleHunt | ok I checked off the Desktop Envionment with tasksel and now it is installing' |
| 23:12.37 | azeem | K350: can you paste the output from X? |
| 23:12.39 | azeem | !paster |
| 23:12.39 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 23:12.42 | KyleHunt | so what is it installing, X? |
| 23:12.45 | azeem | virtu: hrm :-/ |
| 23:12.56 | K350 | _I got this when I start x |
| 23:12.56 | K350 | Fatal server error: |
| 23:12.56 | K350 | Server is already active for display 0 |
| 23:12.57 | K350 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.57 | K350 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:13.01 | azeem | oh man |
| 23:13.03 | virtu | azeem so I came to windows to get libc6... If I do dpkg -i libc6 it will ask me for any deps? |
| 23:13.08 | Mardus | hehehee |
| 23:13.16 | KyleHunt | hey azeem |
| 23:13.16 | Mardus | KyleHunt: What's it saying? |
| 23:13.21 | stew | happy friday! |
| 23:13.27 | Mardus | stew: Thanks. |
| 23:13.37 | azeem | virtu: no, that should be enough |
| 23:13.37 | KyleHunt | uhh text is flying by tooo fast :-) |
| 23:13.43 | virtu | azeem ok |
| 23:13.43 | KyleHunt | It is installing |
| 23:13.46 | virtu | bye and tks |
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| 23:13.48 | azeem | virtu: but installing libc6 from unstable isn't encourated |
| 23:13.51 | Mardus | stew: Oh, I have Saturday already. |
| 23:13.55 | LucianSolaris | ok, ati drivers installed, WISH ME LUCK! |
| 23:13.56 | azeem | pfew, that was close |
| 23:14.00 | stew | Mardus: yeah, i was gonna say... |
| 23:14.01 | ciphergoth | AFAICT my wireless PCI card is set up OK on my desktop machine, but I can't see it on my laptop - what should I check for? |
| 23:14.05 | azeem | K350: don't paste in here |
| 23:14.07 | K350 | ddi you saw the error...I was kicked form the channel... |
| 23:14.10 | ciphergoth | It's an rt2500 |
| 23:14.12 | K350 | whe I start x |
| 23:14.14 | azeem | !paster |
| 23:14.14 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 23:14.16 | ciphergoth | K350: yes |
| 23:14.46 | Mardus | I still need to get apache to work locally, through 127.0.0.1, but I can't start apache for some reason; see http://channels.debian.net/paste/1657 |
| 23:14.46 | azeem | K350: anyway, you have X already running |
| 23:15.08 | K350 | I don't know what to do.... |
| 23:15.13 | azeem | K350: alt+f7 |
| 23:15.23 | azeem | K350: ctrl+alt+f1 to get back |
| 23:15.38 | Mardus | K350: And tell us what do you see. |
| 23:15.47 | ciphergoth | we won't see him again for a bit |
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| 23:15.57 | ciphergoth | he's hit alt+f7 and now he doesn't know how to get back! |
| 23:16.13 | Mardus | ciphergoth: yea, the Ctrl+Alt+f1 thing must have been given one the same line. |
| 23:16.20 | K350 | oiey..hang on.... |
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| 23:16.23 | ciphergoth | I'm wrong |
| 23:16.28 | Mardus | I was too. |
| 23:16.33 | ciphergoth | but the principle is there :-) |
| 23:16.33 | gozz | for all you people that have the sound blow you away when you login the command is :alsactl store |
| 23:16.36 | astronut | valdyn: seemed to go ok, $? = 0 |
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| 23:16.55 | abck | hi there |
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| 23:17.33 | sjv | abck:hi |
| 23:17.44 | abck | is it possible to reinstall debian while its running using apt? |
| 23:17.52 | K350 | uhm I've got a lot of..little weird things... |
| 23:18.07 | sjv | abck: reinstall ? why would you want to do this ? |
| 23:18.09 | Mardus | K350: Can you describe them in further detail? |
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| 23:18.24 | stew | abck: depending on what you mean, you can either resintall all packages, or you can install a fresh copy into a chroot |
| 23:18.33 | abck | In want my system like it was on the first day |
| 23:18.43 | Mardus | abck: Why? |
| 23:18.43 | K350 | well it loosk liek...ang on..... |
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| 23:19.11 | abck | i did some bad things ;) |
| 23:19.26 | Mardus | abck: And what were those? |
| 23:19.30 | sjv | abck: for example ? |
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| 23:19.37 | azeem | if you do not have any important data, just reinstall |
| 23:19.53 | Mardus | azeem: Maybe *s/he* doesn't. |
| 23:19.54 | ciphergoth | Here's what I get from iwconfig ra0: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1658 |
| 23:20.02 | abck | its a hosted server |
| 23:20.02 | ciphergoth | that all looks like it's all working fine |
| 23:20.10 | azeem | Mardus: ? |
| 23:20.16 | ciphergoth | it's just across the room |
| 23:20.21 | ciphergoth | but my laptop can't see it at all |
| 23:20.23 | K350 | okey..couldnt' take a screen shot..but the screen is filled wiht..arrows..sort of..looks like boxes of some sort... |
| 23:20.27 | sjv | abck: you don't have physical access ? |
| 23:20.45 | abck | i havent |
| 23:20.47 | azeem | K350: grey? |
| 23:20.49 | Mardus | azeem: Maybe he or she it not the one who has that important data. |
| 23:20.55 | K350 | no I'm on ssh |
| 23:21.05 | azeem | K350: on ssh? |
| 23:21.09 | K350 | I'm using ssh and vnc |
| 23:21.10 | sjv | abck: what did you mess up ? |
| 23:21.19 | azeem | K350: how do you want to start X then? |
| 23:21.21 | sjv | abck: its probably fixable |
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| 23:21.32 | abck | some configs of the mailserver are missing etc.... |
| 23:21.36 | azeem | K350: or rather, why? |
| 23:21.49 | abck | i dont get that files back by reinstalling the packages |
| 23:21.56 | LucianSolaris | ok, i need some help, the ati proprietary drivers went in nicely, BUT glxinfo still says mesa is being used for my DRI |
| 23:21.58 | K350 | Well the problem was/is that the screen resolution is to low 600x800 ..we wanted to increase it .. |
| 23:22.00 | sjv | abck: reinstalling the mailserver might be enough... |
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| 23:22.14 | K350 | when I updated kde I notices that x wasnt' isntalled..and..well that's where we're now |
| 23:22.21 | shadfc | how can i downgrade a system to sarge from etch? stupid host installed the wrong version and i cant stand a weekend of downtime for them to get it right on monday |
| 23:22.27 | shadfc | err, from etch to sarge |
| 23:22.39 | azeem | K350: first you saw the resolution was too low, and then you installed X? |
| 23:22.42 | stoned | is it a downgrade or an upgrade? make up your mnind |
| 23:22.47 | stoned | hehe |
| 23:22.53 | shadfc | heh, downgrade for sure |
| 23:22.56 | Wyzard | shadfc: Downgrades aren't supported |
| 23:22.57 | K350 | Yes that's correct |
| 23:23.06 | LucianSolaris | hello? |
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| 23:23.13 | stoned | you can't go b ack to sarge from sid/testing |
| 23:23.13 | shadfc | Wyzard i was afraid of that. |
| 23:23.16 | Mardus | K350: You mean, you had the graphical environment already and then you installed X? |
| 23:23.17 | stoned | is what I was told |
| 23:23.28 | azeem | K350: you don't need to install X if you are not displaying it on the same machine |
| 23:23.33 | stoned | you have to reinstall, i guess you can only upgrade, or go from sid to testing, but not stable |
| 23:23.43 | ciphergoth | LucianSolaris: sometimes you ask a question and no-one answers |
| 23:24.00 | K350 | well when i tried to install KDE 3.5 and run teh configuration file..it said that it woldn't fidn x..so I thougt.. |
| 23:24.04 | ciphergoth | LucianSolaris: it's not that they don't hear you, they're just waiting like you for someone who knows the answer to speak |
| 23:24.08 | synic | hey, I've set up a linear raid array with mdstat with the devices: /dev/hda3 /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdd1. Whenever reboot, it says it can't start the array because /dev/hd3 is busy. Once the system has booted, I can mdadm --misc --run /dev/md0 to get it going |
| 23:24.12 | synic | how do I get it to work on boot? |
| 23:24.17 | azeem | K350: which configuration files? |
| 23:24.18 | K350 | well if I don't need x that's fine..but how can we change the resolution? |
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| 23:24.37 | stoned | K350: you are trying to change the resolution in kde3.5 |
| 23:24.38 | K350 | oh .the one in kde ..to install it... |
| 23:24.39 | ciphergoth | LucianSolaris: I just asked a question about wireless networking and got no answer - it's not that they don't like me, just no-one knows how to help. |
| 23:24.49 | azeem | K350: what was the name? |
| 23:24.51 | azeem | configure? |
| 23:25.04 | K350 | no in kde 3.3..doens't work so we wanted to install kde 3.5..when it said it couldn't find x |
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| 23:25.18 | K350 | we have KDE 3.3 now |
| 23:25.34 | azeem | K350: on what kind of machine are you sitting right now? |
| 23:25.36 | stoned | K350: are you on sarge? |
| 23:25.38 | azeem | is this a Windows box? |
| 23:25.44 | K350 | adn the functions to edit resolution with are disabled.. |
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| 23:26.08 | K350 | yes |
| 23:26.12 | stoned | sounds like an xconf problem, check to see if you have the correct resolution modes in there |
| 23:26.21 | azeem | K350: and you display the Linux box via VNC? |
| 23:26.26 | stoned | nm |
| 23:26.29 | K350 | yes |
| 23:26.41 | azeem | K350: so you need to reconfigure VNC I guess |
| 23:26.49 | azeem | dunno really, never did that |
| 23:26.50 | gpm | hey everyone. i'm on gnome in sid (2.12) and gnome-volume-manager mounts my ipod just great with usb, however, with firewire, it only detects it and doesn't mount it for some reason. i can pmount it or mount it normally, but g-v-m/hald/dbus/pmount/whatever isn't automounting with firewire. i can just use usb for the time being, but does anyone know why this would be? |
| 23:27.22 | azeem | gpm: did you check for open bugs? |
| 23:27.24 | K350 | the guuy who have physical acces to the box has the same problem on his screen |
| 23:27.35 | gpm | azeem: on g-v-m yes |
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| 23:27.49 | gpm | azeem: there's one that might be related...but not for sure |
| 23:27.53 | azeem | gpm: file a bug then if there is none already, I'd say |
| 23:27.55 | macsim | teminal in nautilus 2nd click disapear, no way to recover ? |
| 23:28.02 | gpm | azeem: i suppose. |
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| 23:28.16 | gpm | azeem: i don't like harassing developers unnecessarily, so i thought i'd check here first |
| 23:28.17 | stoned | macsim: gnome has been very unstble for me lately too |
| 23:28.19 | azeem | K350: same problem as in too low resolution? |
| 23:28.27 | stoned | then again im using sid |
| 23:28.29 | azeem | gpm: sounds fine as bug report to me |
| 23:28.30 | D-fence | How can I downgrade a package version ? |
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| 23:28.38 | macsim | stoned, ok I still waiting |
| 23:28.47 | K350 | yes that is correct.to low resolution |
| 23:28.48 | azeem | D-fence: downgrades aren't supported |
| 23:28.59 | K350 | it's 600x800 we want 2800x1024 |
| 23:29.00 | stoned | K350: try vncserver -geometry param |
| 23:29.10 | azeem | K350: they should dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 then |
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| 23:29.13 | macsim | stoned, thx |
| 23:29.15 | sjv | D-fence: you can force them, but it's not recommended |
| 23:29.46 | K350 | oh .slow down..I shold do what .or rahter..how? |
| 23:29.47 | stoned | macsim: your terminal disapperared, maybe the process died. check ps x. |
| 23:29.53 | D-fence | sjv: Yep, but my laptop always freeze, so I have nothing to loose |
| 23:30.07 | macsim | stoned, it's afer an upgrade ... |
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| 23:30.18 | stoned | macsim: testing/sid? |
| 23:30.20 | D-fence | I have an radeon inside and it needs xorg 6.8.99 and I have 6.9 |
| 23:30.27 | sjv | D-fence: check http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html |
| 23:30.28 | macsim | stoned, sid |
| 23:30.37 | stoned | macsim: is gnome-terminal even installed? |
| 23:30.43 | D-fence | sjv: ok |
| 23:30.47 | macsim | stoned, yes |
| 23:30.48 | stoned | macsim: try it from console |
| 23:30.52 | trevorv | I'm trying to install the Tango icon theme, but I get "configure: error: ImageMagick is required to build tango-icon-theme", even though I have imagemagick installed. Anyone have any ideas? I'm on unstable. |
| 23:31.03 | stoned | or else you can add a shortcut to it on your gnome-panel |
| 23:31.07 | azeem | trevorv: check config.log for further hints |
| 23:31.19 | Mardus | K350: So you had KDE3.3 already? |
| 23:31.21 | trevorv | azeem, ok ta |
| 23:31.35 | thingfish | funny how people using sarge have fewer problems than those using etch or sid. |
| 23:31.40 | K350 | yes I've KDE 3.3 |
| 23:31.41 | K350 | clear |
| 23:31.43 | macsim | stoned, when you do the right click in nautilus you have "new folder" "new file" and before the update "Terminal" |
| 23:31.47 | stoned | K350: could you state your problem in a long coherent thought, and describe the whole thing |
| 23:32.03 | stoned | stoned: I don't use gnome, try #gnome |
| 23:32.23 | stoned | doh |
| 23:32.33 | azeem | K350: why do you access your box remotely anyway? |
| 23:32.38 | stoned | s/stoned/macsim |
| 23:32.41 | cusco | that would be gnome-terminal macsim |
| 23:32.54 | cusco | I was not reading the problem |
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| 23:33.03 | macsim | I try |
| 23:33.03 | K350 | it' snot my box it's my friends..and he don't know anyhtign about debain or linux..and I'm trying to help him.... |
| 23:33.16 | K350 | We're sittign here togheter and trying to solve teh problem |
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| 23:33.33 | azeem | macsim: Terminal got removed from that menu I think |
| 23:33.39 | macsim | stoned, cusco gnome-terminal is allready installed |
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| 23:33.46 | cusco | yes |
| 23:33.47 | macsim | azeem, it's what I think |
| 23:34.04 | azeem | K350: it would help if you didn't access it indirectly through Windows |
| 23:34.05 | macsim | I found an ubuntu but beurk :/ |
| 23:34.19 | azeem | K350: or is this how it is going to be accessed in the future as well |
| 23:34.20 | azeem | ? |
| 23:34.26 | stoned | are you ubunbutututut |
| 23:34.33 | stoned | go to 3 |
| 23:34.37 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.38 | macsim | stoned, no debian !! |
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| 23:34.40 | K350 | yes we're planign to use vnc and ssh |
| 23:34.40 | stoned | go to #ubuntu |
| 23:34.52 | K350 | I'm going to use ssh and he's going to use vnc |
| 23:34.56 | azeem | stoned: dude, he found a relevant bug in Ubuntu's bugzilla |
| 23:35.14 | K350 | becase he allready have a few other machines running and he prefere to control them al threw vnc form one machine |
| 23:35.19 | macsim | stoned, I googlize and found a ubuntu package nautilus-teminal, but I think it's a bad idea |
| 23:35.34 | stoned | macsim: what are you running, ubuntu or debian? |
| 23:35.40 | azeem | K350: so why does he need KDE? |
| 23:35.41 | macsim | stoned, debian sid ;) |
| 23:35.54 | stoned | macsim: why are you running debian sid, if you can't evne figure out oa simple gnolme issue |
| 23:35.55 | macsim | stoned, debian debian forever |
| 23:36.16 | stoned | macsim: you should NOT run sid, you should run testing, I would say run sarge/stable |
| 23:36.17 | azeem | stoned: he was asking a question |
| 23:36.21 | K350 | Oh I don't know..gnome might be fine to..the only thing he want is to have a graphical interface and a good resolution |
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| 23:36.32 | macsim | stoned, just want to know if it's not a new package or something like this |
| 23:36.33 | azeem | K350: then you should configure VNC |
| 23:36.40 | azeem | K350: I am not sure whether this is really on topic here |
| 23:36.41 | stoned | man im confused |
| 23:36.48 | macsim | stoned, sarge for my servers, sid at hoem |
| 23:36.48 | KyleHunt | Mardus |
| 23:36.56 | hanzo | hi, how do i change my keyboard configuration to spanish? |
| 23:37.04 | stoned | i have no idea what you are on about, you say gome terminal is installed and there is no menu on desktop background for Terminal |
| 23:37.11 | K350 | But he said he'd the same problem viewing the box form a screen..physicaly |
| 23:37.11 | stoned | so its bug then yeah? |
| 23:37.15 | stoned | check bts |
| 23:37.18 | azeem | stoned: no |
| 23:37.20 | KyleHunt | when I attempt to start x, it says "Fatal server error: No screens found" |
| 23:37.33 | macsim | stoned, not in the background in the right click in nautilus |
| 23:37.39 | azeem | stoned: the right-click on desktop menu used to have a "Terminal" entry |
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| 23:37.44 | sjv | KyleHunt: you probably have a bond X config |
| 23:37.50 | azeem | stoned: that entry got removed in 2.12 for usability reasons |
| 23:37.53 | stoned | azeem: i hve not used gnome in quite a while, i should shut up |
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| 23:38.02 | fudje | Hello |
| 23:38.03 | sjv | KyleHunt: check your /var/log/X.0.log |
| 23:38.05 | macsim | stoned, forget it, my english suck, I explain it bad |
| 23:38.11 | KyleHunt | ok |
| 23:38.14 | KyleHunt | one moment |
| 23:38.22 | fudje | Is there any way to make device mapper work with hotplug? |
| 23:38.27 | hanzo | how do i change my keyboard configuration to spanish? |
| 23:38.38 | stoned | !stoned |
| 23:38.48 | stoned | hmm |
| 23:38.58 | fudje | hanzo: What's desktop do you use? |
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| 23:39.15 | hanzo | fudje: fluxbox |
| 23:39.15 | mert | Hallo zusammen |
| 23:39.36 | mert | Kann jemand mit ubuntu helfen |
| 23:39.50 | azeem | mert: #ubuntu.de |
| 23:39.51 | fudje | hanzo: Okay, interesting. I presume you have xkb loaded? |
| 23:39.55 | mert | danke |
| 23:40.01 | azeem | mert: or #ubuntu, if the former doesn't exist |
| 23:40.16 | mert | u only speak english? |
| 23:40.22 | azeem | in here yes |
| 23:40.22 | KyleHunt | sjv |
| 23:40.28 | hanzo | fudje: xkb? |
| 23:40.29 | KyleHunt | it says no such file or directory |
| 23:40.31 | stew | #ubuntu-de exists |
| 23:40.34 | azeem | ah |
| 23:40.35 | KyleHunt | and when I open it in nano, there is nothing |
| 23:40.46 | sjv | KyleHunt: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:40.48 | mert | i cant play some videos on ubuntu totem player |
| 23:40.55 | fudje | hanzo: It's the X KeyBoard extension :) |
| 23:40.56 | azeem | mert: this channel is not for Ubuntu |
| 23:40.57 | mert | have u got an idea |
| 23:41.05 | mert | y not |
| 23:41.06 | azeem | mert: please go to #ubuntu-de |
| 23:41.10 | mert | ok ok |
| 23:41.14 | fudje | hanzo: Fluxbox has a dock, doesn't it? |
| 23:41.17 | mert | bye |
| 23:41.18 | Mardus | I'm watching movie. Bye. |
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| 23:41.31 | mert | ey mardus lets meet on ubuntu server |
| 23:41.33 | kspath | mert: our idea is that you do not ask about ubuntu or preferably not even mention it here. |
| 23:41.38 | hanzo | fudje well... yeah i can use my keyboard on X if thats what you mean |
| 23:41.54 | mert | hard rules in here |
| 23:42.04 | azeem | mert: sorry |
| 23:42.11 | kspath | mert: this channel is actually fairly gentle |
| 23:42.18 | thingfish | mert: with an average of 700+ users, there has to be some guidelines. |
| 23:42.19 | fudje | hanzo: no, that's just the keyboard driver. Xkb lets you do on-the-fly mapping switches, et cetera. |
| 23:42.25 | mert | ok go on genlting |
| 23:42.29 | kspath | mert: but it is a DEBIAN channel not a ubuntu channel |
| 23:42.40 | mert | an ubuntu channel |
| 23:42.43 | sjv | KyleHunt: look for (EE) lines in there |
| 23:42.45 | azeem | mert: genlting? |
| 23:42.47 | KyleHunt | hmm still says no file or anything |
| 23:42.50 | hanzo | fudje: can i apt-get it? |
| 23:42.55 | mert | okok gentling |
| 23:42.57 | azeem | KyleHunt: check for similar files |
| 23:43.04 | Mxyzpltk | hanzo: in your xorg.conf file, look for Section "InputDevice" that correspond to your keyboard, and use Option "XkbLayouy" "es" |
| 23:43.05 | fudje | hanzo: It should be installed with X11 :) |
| 23:43.11 | thingfish | don't you wish #ubuntu's /topic said something like "don't take your problems to #debian!"? |
| 23:43.17 | Mxyzpltk | Layout... |
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| 23:43.32 | kspath | thingfish: I thought it said the opposite. |
| 23:43.35 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:43.37 | KyleHunt | im so confused :P |
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| 23:43.39 | thingfish | it must. |
| 23:43.48 | sjv | KyleHunt: maybe /var/log/XFree86.0.log then ;-) |
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| 23:43.55 | bcc | what's the difference between apm=off and noapm in kernel command line? |
| 23:44.23 | KyleHunt | ok, ill try |
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| 23:44.33 | hanzo | fudje done, now i have to restart the X? |
| 23:44.43 | fudje | hanzo: if you do it that way, yes. |
| 23:44.45 | kspath | I love using an ubuntu box to download netbsd to wipe a gentoo box clean *evil grin* |
| 23:44.50 | hanzo | ok |
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| 23:46.24 | sjv | KyleHunt: still no luck ? |
| 23:46.31 | azeem | kspath: 00:35 < kspath> mert: our idea is that you do not ask about ubuntu or preferably not even mention it here. |
| 23:46.42 | kspath | azeem: double standard |
| 23:46.46 | azeem | I figured |
| 23:46.59 | KyleHunt | sorry svj, have to run up and down stairs :P |
| 23:47.05 | KyleHunt | yeah, ti was there |
| 23:47.11 | KyleHunt | only one line says (EE) |
| 23:47.20 | thingfish | hehe azeem |
| 23:47.25 | thingfish | !beer azeem |
| 23:47.30 | D-fence | I want to remove xserver-xorg and replace it with xserver-xfree86 but it doesn't work ? |
| 23:47.38 | azeem | D-fence: are you on unstable? |
| 23:47.38 | KyleHunt | it says: (EE): No devices found towards the bottom of the log |
| 23:47.44 | kspath | azeem: notice I did not ask/whine about ubutt but rather used it in a semi-humorous statement |
| 23:47.52 | KyleHunt | right after it it says No screens found |
| 23:47.56 | D-fence | azeem: mixed |
| 23:48.07 | thingfish | kspath: you should not have anything ubuntu anywhere near you. |
| 23:48.07 | azeem | D-fence: ugh |
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| 23:48.28 | D-fence | azeem: lol |
| 23:48.31 | kspath | thingfish: it is a good way to easy the special people into Debian. |
| 23:48.49 | thingfish | I mean, if mark shuttleworth wanted to make a difference, he should've thrown his money at debian developers. |
| 23:48.53 | fudje | BRB |
| 23:49.02 | kspath | thingfish: I agree completely. |
| 23:49.03 | azeem | thingfish: uhm, he's doing that |
| 23:49.11 | sjv | KyleHunt: do you know which graphic adapter you have in your machine ? |
| 23:49.13 | thingfish | azeem: really? he is? |
| 23:49.26 | KyleHunt | graphic adapter... as in video card? :P |
| 23:49.30 | KyleHunt | if not, then no :( |
| 23:49.33 | azeem | thingfish: most of his employees working on Ubuntu are Debian Developers |
| 23:49.39 | sjv | KyleHunt: yes :-) |
| 23:49.48 | KyleHunt | Nvidia 7800 gtx |
| 23:49.50 | thingfish | azeem: well, actually I'd heard something like that. |
| 23:49.56 | wireddd | what is going to be the best program for viewing a 2.9 gig image? |
| 23:50.11 | markybob | wireddd: wtf? are you playing? |
| 23:50.12 | D-fence | when I try to install xerver-xfree86, ti wants to install xserver-xorg too |
| 23:50.14 | azeem | KyleHunt: that might not be supported by sarge |
| 23:50.21 | sjv | could you paste your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 here ? |
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| 23:50.23 | Breeder | none of the menu examples from dialog package are working properly with me, any reason why? |
| 23:50.26 | wireddd | markybob, no |
| 23:50.28 | sjv | do not paste directly, though |
| 23:50.31 | sjv | !paste |
| 23:50.32 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 23:50.32 | markybob | wireddd: do you have like 3.5G of ram? |
| 23:50.36 | azeem | D-fence: why do you need xfree86 these days? |
| 23:50.46 | KyleHunt | not really :( I have no way of connecting them |
| 23:50.57 | wireddd | no I only have 2 gigs and thats the problem |
| 23:50.59 | kspath | thingfish: I LOVE debian pure version but to get the special people that are windblowz fanatics into the Debian idea you have to give them something that is dumbed down like Ubuntu. The smart ones will naturally move to Debian. |
| 23:51.13 | markybob | wireddd: yeah. no good way, then. give up or upgrade |
| 23:51.22 | KyleHunt | Really Nvidia 7800's arent supported by Sarge? |
| 23:51.30 | D-fence | azeem: because my new laptop freeze for an unknown reason |
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| 23:51.53 | thingfish | I don't see what's so dumbed down about ubuntu! Plus it's loaded with bugs, last I tried it. seems like windows users would prefer something that works as advertised. |
| 23:51.54 | wireddd | I don't need to view the entire image all at once |
| 23:51.55 | azeem | D-fence: and that is when you start X? |
| 23:52.07 | D-fence | azeem: no, it seems random |
| 23:52.11 | vulture | wireddd: I'd expect Gimp could handle that, more or less.. |
| 23:52.13 | kspath | thingfish |
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| 23:52.22 | azeem | D-fence: I wouldn't expect xfree86 to help then |
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| 23:52.31 | azeem | D-fence: is there anything in the kernel logsß |
| 23:52.32 | azeem | ? |
| 23:52.33 | wireddd | vulture well I will let it try for a couple hours and see |
| 23:52.35 | thingfish | what, kspath? those are my feelings. |
| 23:52.46 | D-fence | azeem: but the radeon drivers cannot be installed with xorg > 6.8.99 |
| 23:52.50 | D-fence | azeem: no |
| 23:52.52 | azeem | D-fence: blah |
| 23:52.58 | azeem | D-fence: well, sorry then |
| 23:53.22 | azeem | D-fence: something in your mixed system probably ties you to x.org now |
| 23:53.22 | kspath | thingfish: I hit enter by accident. I do not dispute your feelings nor anyone elses. My experience is not the same. |
| 23:53.29 | D-fence | azeem: yep |
| 23:53.32 | azeem | D-fence: you can try to downgrade to xserver-xorg from testing |
| 23:53.34 | KyleHunt | If they made Linux a little more user friendly but without ruining the freedom part they would get more users... |
| 23:53.39 | azeem | that should still be 6.8.2 |
| 23:53.41 | D-fence | azeem: how ? |
| 23:53.47 | azeem | D-fence: download, dpkg -i it |
| 23:53.56 | thingfish | ok, so now I have to get a 5.10 iso and try it. |
| 23:54.00 | thingfish | :/ |
| 23:54.06 | D-fence | azeem: ok |
| 23:54.07 | kspath | thingfish: why |
| 23:54.08 | azeem | or apt-get install xserver-xorg=6.8.2.dfsg-12, or whatever the version is |
| 23:54.15 | thingfish | maybe I won't. |
| 23:54.17 | onweald_tim | Hi all. I am getting the error "GRUB Hard Disk Error" while trying to install Deb on a usb thumb drive. I believe that grub is trying to connect to the wrong device. Any ideas? |
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| 23:54.32 | onweald_tim | When I first install, usb drive is on /dev/sdc. |
| 23:54.32 | thingfish | I'm too lazy. Sarge works, for me. |
| 23:54.38 | kspath | thingfish: I am running thing 3 Head machine on Sarge and it is rock solid and I am happy. |
| 23:54.38 | wireddd | KyleHunt, the goal of open source isn't really more users |
| 23:54.44 | sjv | KyleHunt: look at your "Device" section in /etc/X11/XF86config-4 |
| 23:54.44 | thingfish | oh I love sarge. |
| 23:54.51 | thingfish | love it love it love it. |
| 23:54.52 | abrotman | *love* |
| 23:54.53 | KyleHunt | ok |
| 23:55.08 | azeem | sjv: are you sure his card is supported by xfree86? |
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| 23:55.22 | thingfish | I wish all the debian distros were named after manly men. |
| 23:55.26 | kspath | thingfish: I was not recommending ubuntu to anyone with a clue. Only to the clueless and/or windblowz fanboys. |
| 23:55.29 | sjv | azeem: this is a good question |
| 23:55.31 | onweald_tim | Does anyone know how I can force grub to tell me what it is trying to read when it is booting? |
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| 23:55.51 | sjv | azeem: alternative would be an upgrade to testing |
| 23:55.56 | azeem | or backports.org |
| 23:56.00 | abrotman | thingfish: Rex ? |
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| 23:56.07 | kspath | thingfish: beats sending them into rpm hell level 9 or emergeing all your crap. |
| 23:56.12 | sjv | azeem: they have xorg for sarge ? |
| 23:56.17 | azeem | sure |
| 23:56.17 | abrotman | !xorg sarge |
| 23:56.17 | dpkg | [xorg sarge] now available at http://backports.org/ |
| 23:56.21 | D-fence | azeem: where can I search the package ? |
| 23:56.21 | thingfish | eew yes, rpm-based. anythign but that. |
| 23:56.28 | fudje | anyone? No clues for hotplugging device-mapped disks? |
| 23:56.30 | azeem | they even have 6.9.0 now |
| 23:56.33 | onweald_tim | New question: Does anyone know a good reference for installing Debian on a usb thumb drive? |
| 23:56.36 | sjv | azeem: good to know |
| 23:56.38 | abrotman | i don't even have 6.9! |
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| 23:56.44 | azeem | D-fence: packages.debian.org/testing/x11/xserver-xorg |
| 23:56.49 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 23:56.49 | thingfish | what is the point anyway of moving to xorg in sarge. |
| 23:56.55 | abrotman | wait .. it's there somewhere |
| 23:56.57 | D-fence | thnx |
| 23:56.59 | onweald_tim | The only reference I found was specific to encrypted file system. |
| 23:57.01 | azeem | D-fence: or rather http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xorg-x11/ |
| 23:57.06 | abrotman | !usb-install |
| 23:57.06 | dpkg | usb-install is, like, Yes, it is possible to boot Debian (sarge) from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 23:57.12 | abrotman | onweald_tim: ^^ |
| 23:57.14 | fudje | thingfish: o_O? It's not. Someone's written a backport for it. |
| 23:57.16 | kspath | thingfish: only positive thing I can say about deadrat is that you can get maple10, matlab, and mathematica to all run and be supported. |
| 23:57.21 | azeem | thingfish: if your graphics card isn't supported? |
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| 23:57.41 | abrotman | kspath: 2+2=5 ? |
| 23:57.48 | thingfish | fudje: well I know that. but why change? |
| 23:57.58 | fudje | thingfish: Impatience? |
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| 23:58.05 | onweald_tim | Thanks dpkg <-- good robot, good robot... |
| 23:58.06 | dpkg | no problem, onweald_tim |
| 23:58.08 | stew | for sufficiently large values or 2, or something |
| 23:58.09 | fudje | kspath: what's wrong with Octave+gnuplot? |
| 23:58.14 | thingfish | azeem: that would be the only reason I can think of. oh - and if you like to be current, license-wise. |
| 23:58.15 | kspath | abrotman 10 + 10 = 4 |
| 23:58.26 | azeem | thingfish: well, it seems to be the issue at hand |
| 23:58.31 | thingfish | right |
| 23:58.31 | KyleHunt | sjv |
| 23:58.34 | kspath | fudje: noting if you are working on the data/project alone or with someone with a clue. |
| 23:58.41 | KyleHunt | in which section shold I look? |
| 23:58.43 | KyleHunt | device or monitor |
| 23:58.44 | thingfish | you people drive me to change things. |
| 23:58.55 | azeem | 00:44 < KyleHunt> Nvidia 7800 gtx |
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| 23:58.58 | fudje | kspath: That's true, I guess. |
| 23:59.05 | azeem | can somebody confirm that this isn't supported by xfree86? |
| 23:59.16 | abrotman | !sarge hardware support |
| 23:59.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sarge hardware support is reasonable, but not cutting edge. XFree86 does not support nVidia 6-series or 7-series graphics cards or ATI X-series cards, without binary drivers or VESA. There is also little to no support for modern Intel i9x5-ICH6 boards, nor CPU Frequency scaling on Dothan core Pentium-M chips, nor Venice and San Diego core Athlon 64 chips. |
| 23:59.25 | KyleHunt | OMG |
| 23:59.27 | kspath | fudje: there are a lot more things available in debian that only octave and gnuplot . there are TONS of powerful/good math and math related apps in repository |
| 23:59.33 | thingfish | tsk. if you have too much money, you don't deserve to be supported. |
| 23:59.37 | *** join/#debian eheil (n=erik@c-69-241-19-197.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 23:59.43 | azeem | KyleHunt: www.backports.org is the way to go here |
| 23:59.50 | *** join/#debian ldexter (n=ldexter@adsl-065-006-163-043.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:59.58 | KyleHunt | I dont have a net connection on that computer |
