| 00:00.05 | abrotman | though i'd think the nvidia driver could be made to work with xfree .. but what do i know . the smart thing is to just avoid nvidia :) |
| 00:00.05 | eheil | hello all. |
| 00:00.06 | fudje | kspath: Yeah. But octave+gnuplot covers what I've done :) |
| 00:00.07 | azeem | KyleHunt: that's really bad |
| 00:00.09 | Breeder | none of the menu examples from dialog package are working properly with me, any reason why? |
| 00:00.14 | KyleHunt | Yeah, no doubt |
| 00:00.19 | abrotman | why no internet? |
| 00:00.28 | KyleHunt | because it isnt recognizing it |
| 00:00.31 | KyleHunt | I have the connection |
| 00:00.34 | azeem | KyleHunt: oh |
| 00:00.35 | KyleHunt | just says it doesnt work |
| 00:00.41 | azeem | that sounds fixable |
| 00:00.42 | kspath | thingfish: that much money? only 2000 USD per package gamers spend twice that on their windows crap machines for gaming only |
| 00:00.46 | azeem | KyleHunt: what kind of network adapter? |
| 00:00.48 | KyleHunt | so did the video card problem :D |
| 00:01.01 | KyleHunt | I... dont know :( |
| 00:01.11 | azeem | KyleHunt: lspci will tell you |
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| 00:01.14 | KyleHunt | ok. |
| 00:01.22 | thingfish | kspath: I was talking about high-end graphics cards. |
| 00:01.22 | sjv | azeem: does not seem to be supported, though |
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| 00:01.45 | sjv | KyleHunt: sorry, it seems your card isn't supported under XFree86 |
| 00:02.01 | eheil | KyleHunt: What kind of machine is it? B/c if we maybe knew if it was a Dell, we might be able to try and determine maybe what kind of NIC you have. |
| 00:02.03 | thingfish | damn, azeem - belong to enough channels? |
| 00:02.06 | thingfish | hee |
| 00:02.10 | thingfish | *heh |
| 00:02.25 | abrotman | that's not that bad |
| 00:02.29 | thingfish | haha |
| 00:02.31 | thingfish | right |
| 00:02.40 | azeem | yeah, I still got two or three free |
| 00:02.43 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:02.47 | abrotman | those are the ones that aren't hidden too |
| 00:02.51 | thingfish | tsk |
| 00:02.58 | thingfish | you all crazy people. |
| 00:02.59 | azeem | and it's not that bad on oftc |
| 00:02.59 | shadows | azeem: you got nothing on Kye |
| 00:03.00 | KyleHunt | lol |
| 00:03.00 | shadows | ;) |
| 00:03.05 | KyleHunt | yes it is a Dell XPS |
| 00:03.10 | abrotman | ew .. dell |
| 00:03.18 | thingfish | build yer own. |
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| 00:03.21 | shadows | dell pwns the market |
| 00:03.24 | thingfish | only way to go. |
| 00:03.30 | eheil | Holy shit, this kernel is taking a long time to build. |
| 00:03.30 | azeem | KyleHunt: it might be wise to google for that |
| 00:03.31 | markybob | could someone please take a look at this bash script and help me figure out why it's erroring out on me? http://pastebin.com/526614 |
| 00:03.35 | azeem | "dell xps debian" or so |
| 00:03.42 | KyleHunt | ok |
| 00:03.44 | gau | hello all how do i increase the CPU0 threshold ? |
| 00:03.46 | KyleHunt | thanks for your help |
| 00:03.47 | shadows | markybob: i'll give it 5 seconds of my attention :) |
| 00:04.01 | markybob | shadows thanks :) |
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| 00:04.20 | kspath | I would buy dell if they would ship opterons with Debian installed or no OS installed |
| 00:04.29 | gau | in windows there is not trouble even with encoding ... and in linux i can't compile a 1000 line program without having to restart .... |
| 00:04.38 | shadows | markybob: first off, if SUCCESS is not set, the script will die |
| 00:04.41 | abrotman | markybob: don't forget about #bash |
| 00:04.47 | KyleHunt | I think I will try Gentoo, it worked before :( |
| 00:04.58 | KyleHunt | with the 7800 |
| 00:04.59 | kspath | what is wrong with #zsh ?!?! |
| 00:05.02 | gau | i hate Intel :( |
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| 00:05.14 | markybob | shadows: i understand that. SUCCESS is set by grep running before then. just wasnt relavent to why it failed, so i didnt paste the entire thing |
| 00:05.18 | eheil | gau: What arch do you prefer? |
| 00:05.23 | sjv | KyleHunt: if you're going to reinstall, you might as well try etch... |
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| 00:05.29 | gau | eheil: powerpc ..... |
| 00:05.32 | Rudirogdt | hi all |
| 00:05.35 | Zea | some body can help me to set up the sound in a laptop? |
| 00:05.52 | sjv | gau: that's a good arch :-) |
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| 00:06.03 | gau | the damng thing runs so hot ... amd is a hell a lot better than intel on x86 .... |
| 00:06.05 | kspath | gau: Intels low power Dual I think it is Duo is quite interesting |
| 00:06.11 | Rudirogdt | got a problem: no space left on dev. when untar with MC http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5445/nospaceleft6ru.jpg why..? |
| 00:06.22 | gau | na i will never ever get another intel .... |
| 00:06.24 | hipodilski | I have kde and some of my kde programs are not in the menus is there a program that adds all kde related programs to the kde menu ? |
| 00:06.25 | madradrone | i have paired with a bluetooth phone. anyone know how to transfer data to/from it? |
| 00:06.26 | eheil | gau: That's a really good arch. Now why in the world Apple decided to switch to Intel-based arches, I don't know. |
| 00:06.45 | gau | eheil: apple is dead if you ask me .... |
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| 00:07.01 | gau | i won't touch an apple with those pesky intels in em .... |
| 00:07.16 | sjv | gau: not quite sure they're dead, but they're dead for me... |
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| 00:07.25 | stew | markybob: the problem is that SUCCESS has no value |
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| 00:07.28 | eheil | gau: yeah, I totally agree. The only good? decision they made so far was their iPod, which sucks anyways. |
| 00:07.40 | shadows | markybob: why are you cat'ing something into grep |
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| 00:07.42 | gau | well that's what i meant ... |
| 00:07.46 | shadows | instead of grep expression filename |
| 00:07.48 | Rudirogdt | i need to add that i just installed that system on a 80 gbyte harddrive with partitions big enough and 2gbyte ram... :( |
| 00:08.12 | markybob | shadows good point. |
| 00:08.12 | jeef | anyone ever try using a Brother printer over the network with their official linux drivers? |
| 00:08.27 | gau | I will be getting their best powerbook runnig a g4 and then bye bye apple ... hope they don't phase it out earlier than they stated ... |
| 00:08.50 | Jeeves_Moss | all: can any one help me find out why my Debian box (that ~had~ been running fine for 4 months) now can't connect to my network? |
| 00:09.02 | eheil | gau: yeah, and now they introduced the MacBook. WTF is that? Come on. PR dept could ahve done better than taht. |
| 00:09.02 | abrotman | the cable is disconnected |
| 00:09.06 | dondelelcaro | Rudirogdt: give us the df -h; and df -i; output then. |
| 00:09.11 | sjv | gau: you can always get one second-hand |
| 00:09.14 | dondelelcaro | Rudirogdt: use #flood or the paster bot to do so |
| 00:09.24 | thingfish | gau: what? you're crazy. no point in buying anything mac now except an intel mac. |
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| 00:09.56 | gau | thingfish: na i don't run mac for the os ... i run mac for the arch ;) and debian on it ;) |
| 00:10.00 | sjv | thingfish: alternative archs are somewhat good for the global ecosystem ;-) |
| 00:10.10 | eheil | Actually, I was reading an article, Apple almost went with Sparc rather than PPC. |
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| 00:10.26 | Jeeves_Moss | thingfish: I think once the Intel chips come out, a few months later, some hackers are going to crack the BIOS issue, and you can finaly have a slim sexy box that'll run what ever you want. |
| 00:10.29 | thingfish | sjv: I guess I woudn't argue that. |
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| 00:10.42 | thingfish | Jeeves_Moss: meh. |
| 00:11.00 | gau | well its a given that the bios will be cracked ... |
| 00:11.05 | thingfish | I wouldn't get a mac just to run windows on it. |
| 00:11.12 | eheil | That already exists, their is already an Opendesktop machine which is based on OpenPower stuff. |
| 00:11.13 | Jeeves_Moss | all: any one any good @ networking? I NEED to figure out why this damn box won't connect to the network |
| 00:11.24 | madradrone | aren't there enough cool-looking taiwanese laptop designs out there without the need for some new one with a crappy one-button mouse? |
| 00:11.28 | dondelelcaro | for many of us who actually care, the current powerbooks already do exactly what we want them to do |
| 00:11.43 | gau | dondelelcaro: right ;) |
| 00:11.45 | dondelelcaro | if you don't like the hardware, don't buy it. |
| 00:11.48 | abrotman | i wouldn't get a mac :) |
| 00:12.07 | eheil | UltraSparc is another good arch while we're talking about arches. |
| 00:12.07 | thingfish | dondelelcaro: your lack of emotional excitability is frustrating. |
| 00:12.15 | gau | abrotman: not any more ;) the old ones are pretty good ;) |
| 00:12.22 | sjv | eheil: indeed, but they suck power like hell |
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| 00:12.37 | abrotman | gau: and certainly not an old one |
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| 00:13.02 | Jeeves_Moss | all: I don't mean to bash the Mac talk, but can I get a hand with my networking issue? |
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| 00:13.33 | gau | well its not old ;) |
| 00:13.34 | dondelelcaro | Jeeves_Moss: just ask your actual question and someone will help you |
| 00:13.34 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: is the module loaded? ifconfig -a . do you see it .. dmesg | grep -i eth .. see anything there? |
| 00:13.39 | gau | is a g4 .... |
| 00:13.40 | starfishy | jeeves: whats wrong with your networking? |
| 00:14.04 | gau | if missiles can rely on a ppc chip why not use it for desktops and laptops ? |
| 00:14.20 | gau | a lot of jets use ppc ... |
| 00:14.23 | dondelelcaro | Jeeves_Moss: for instance, ifconfig -a; route -n; ping yourdefaultgateway; ping debian.org; ping 72.14.207.99; output will all be useful |
| 00:14.42 | thingfish | gau: hehe please. |
| 00:14.54 | Jeeves_Moss | All: everything was working fine 'till I shut it down last night, then the powe button woulden't work, so a quick yank of the BIOS bat. and we're back up. when the system boots, it only shows the local loop back, no cards, but you can manualy force the cards up. When you ping, it gives me "network unreachable" |
| 00:14.55 | kspath | gau: arrows depend on a bow and I do not need a bow. Though I do have a iBook 700Mhz |
| 00:15.11 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: netstat -r ? |
| 00:15.32 | Jeeves_Moss | sjc: one sec. |
| 00:15.40 | gau | kspath: ;) i know that's streatching it a bit ... was just pointing out the reliability of ppc ;) |
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| 00:15.46 | Jeeves_Moss | sjc: I'll reboot and find out. |
| 00:15.58 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: why reboot ? |
| 00:16.21 | yonkeltron | GOOD SHABBOS!!! |
| 00:16.29 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: I played around with it for a bit and I want to start fresh. |
| 00:16.41 | sjv | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.50 | Jeeves_Moss | gau: my PPC is AMAZING!! I had some ass hole drop it, and HP covered the screen under warrenty |
| 00:18.06 | th0ger | Wy cant i write to my vfat-disk? It is mounted in fstab with "vfat user,umask=000" and all the files get permissions "-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root". So anyone should be able to write to the disk, but only root can! This is werid... |
| 00:18.09 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: ifconfig only displays the local loop back, and netstat -r dosen't have anything in the routing tables |
| 00:18.35 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: you said you could birng your interface up manually, IIRC ? |
| 00:19.00 | Rudirogdt | dondelelcaro flood an so isn“t well for that becouse of the slashes... do you have a link to an online service for that? i know there are some but i forgot the link :( |
| 00:19.05 | sjv | (/birng/bring/) |
| 00:19.18 | abrotman | !paste |
| 00:19.18 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
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| 00:19.29 | eheil | Geez. Come on already. its still building 2.6.15. |
| 00:19.37 | Rudirogdt | thnx :) |
| 00:19.47 | Paula69 | SONNY |
| 00:19.59 | Paula69 | I MUST TALK TO SONNY |
| 00:20.22 | thingfish | why oh why... |
| 00:20.23 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: I can raise them, butIstill can't contact the network. The interfaces file lists them with static IPs |
| 00:20.24 | Rudirogdt | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1659 |
| 00:20.43 | dondelelcaro | Paula69: lose the caps please. If you don't have a #debian related question, please go elsewhere. |
| 00:20.55 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: I guess those static IPs are not the good ones... |
| 00:21.08 | Rudirogdt | i have no swap or temp becouse of security reasons (cryptedfs soon) but i notice that there ist /dev/shm?!? hmmm :/ |
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| 00:21.13 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: do you know your network |
| 00:21.36 | dondelelcaro | Rudirogdt: uh... are you sure that's actually corresponding to the system that you're untarring on? you've got more than enough space there. |
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| 00:21.48 | dondelelcaro | Rudirogdt: try untarring using tar zxf instead of mc. |
| 00:22.16 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: yes I know my network. what is strange is that the interfaces arn't binding to the IPs I have listed. Everything was running fine before I shut it down the last time. |
| 00:22.24 | dondelelcaro | Rudirogdt: /dev/shm is a memory backed filesystem used for keeping track of things at early boot |
| 00:22.39 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 00:22.39 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 00:22.42 | Rudirogdt | dondelelcaro that worked, i tested it but i am i bit lazy ;) |
| 00:22.44 | dvm1981 | Hello |
| 00:22.51 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: ifconfig eth0 <yourIP> up ? |
| 00:22.58 | liberty | dont be fucvkin kazy |
| 00:23.16 | dondelelcaro | liberty: ? |
| 00:23.19 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: so the IP that it SHOULD have? |
| 00:23.25 | liberty | reeling |
| 00:23.28 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: yes |
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| 00:23.58 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: I don't know why your /etc/network/... changed, though |
| 00:24.08 | dvm1981 | Yesterday, i have filled my first bug report with reportbug for Debian. Normally i must be receive an copy of it, I not receive it. Normal ? |
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| 00:24.35 | azeem | dvm1981: did you check bugs.debian.org/<package> whether it is actually there? |
| 00:24.46 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: it seems to have liked it. I can log on from this system (a remote), but now I wonder why it won't bind to the addresses in the interfaces file. |
| 00:24.46 | liberty | dont pisse me off |
| 00:24.52 | eheil | hey anyone know the status on pacakges.debian.org? |
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| 00:25.12 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: it is quite strange, indeed |
| 00:25.15 | tarzeau | eheil: it's broken |
| 00:25.18 | azeem | eheil: there's no news I think |
| 00:25.20 | dondelelcaro | liberty: use the next ten minutes to figure out your #debian related question, and then ask it. Otherwise, kindly go elsewhere. |
| 00:25.29 | dvm1981 | azeem: I look for now ;-), i forget that i can look on packagename, im waiting for a number, so i can try to make a patch |
| 00:25.37 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: but if you fix your interfaces file, everything should be fine |
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| 00:26.09 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: whats strange is that this system ran fine for 4 months, then I rebooted it (stupid idea yes I know), then the hardware power button woulden't work. and I'm looking @ my interfaces file, and it seems to be fine. |
| 00:26.13 | Rudirogdt | is it possible to kick out /dev/shm ? i have never seen that before on my computer.... and the Linux machine is the only thing booted currently and with linux... |
| 00:26.34 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: data corruption on your disk ? |
| 00:26.43 | azeem | Rudirogdt: not if you need SysV shared memory |
| 00:26.45 | dondelelcaro | Rudirogdt: you want /dev/shm |
| 00:27.05 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: do you have the output of the init scripts ? |
| 00:27.06 | azeem | Rudirogdt: which is the case when you want to run X e..g |
| 00:27.07 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: is there a program like scandisk (for windows) for linux to check the disk? |
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| 00:27.16 | dondelelcaro | Rudirogdt: very little gets stored there anyway, and it all goes away every reboot. |
| 00:27.20 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: fsck is your friend |
| 00:27.23 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: no? how? |
| 00:27.54 | Rudirogdt | azeem the computer will never see something like x or so... bash only ;) |
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| 00:28.07 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: fsck? |
| 00:28.13 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: the name of the app is fsck... |
| 00:28.15 | dvm1981 | azeem: nothings there about a little bug -> debian-reference-en paragraphe 2.2.2 a little error : man 8 dpkg-deb to man 1 dpkg-deb |
| 00:28.16 | azeem | I still wouldn't recommend removing it |
| 00:28.17 | sjv | lol |
| 00:28.37 | dvm1981 | azeem: i write it again then |
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| 00:28.45 | sjv | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.58 | azeem | dvm1981: do you have mail setup? |
| 00:28.59 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: it says running it on a mounted file system can cause severe filysystem damage |
| 00:29.06 | azeem | dvm1981: reportbug might need that |
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| 00:29.11 | Rudirogdt | dondelelcaro hmmmm but it reservs 1004 mbyte?!? according to df -h well none used but listed... :| |
| 00:29.23 | eheil | \n |
| 00:29.28 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: ok, sorry for the n00b question, I forget how to switch runlevels. |
| 00:29.30 | dondelelcaro | Rudirogdt: that's just the maxiumum size it can grow io. |
| 00:29.31 | dondelelcaro | s/io/to/ |
| 00:29.48 | Rudirogdt | ahhh ok :) |
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| 00:30.25 | sjv | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.28 | dvm1981 | azeem: normally yes, so probably troubles with 'exim4' ? really possible, i have do it from this computer and not remember if i have setup it, thx to set me on the right way :-) |
| 00:30.34 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: how do I switch run levels? |
| 00:30.43 | azeem | dvm1981: check the mailq, perhaps |
| 00:30.49 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: ok, thnaks. |
| 00:30.54 | starfishy | telinit <runlevel> |
| 00:31.09 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 00:31.12 | spoopin | Jeeves_Moss: man init |
| 00:31.16 | Mazingaro | please is there anyone using k3b??? |
| 00:31.17 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv: dosen't like the "-s" switch |
| 00:31.18 | dvm1981 | azeem: permission denied |
| 00:31.23 | starfishy | i am using k3b |
| 00:31.24 | azeem | dvm1981: as root |
| 00:31.32 | kspath | who -r will tell you current runlevel hehehe |
| 00:31.35 | sjv | Jeeves_Moss: really ? |
| 00:31.44 | starfishy | its supposed to be s, not -s |
| 00:31.51 | starfishy | at the end of the command line |
| 00:32.00 | sjv | starfishy: ok, got lost here ;-) |
| 00:32.08 | Rudirogdt | any opinion where i could find the bug responsible my problem untar with mc? |
| 00:32.13 | Jeeves_Moss | starfishy: so just a single "s" @ the end? |
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| 00:32.22 | starfishy | oh, sorry, you are talking reboot command |
| 00:32.25 | starfishy | one sec |
| 00:32.49 | starfishy | i dont think reboot takes an argument for a target runlevel |
| 00:32.49 | dvm1981 | azeem: 22h 924 1F2J2i-0001nG-BM <david.van.mosselbeen@telenet.be> (david)-- submit@bugs.debian.org |
| 00:32.50 | Jeeves_Moss | sjv, starfisy: dosen't like those either. Woulden't just switching the runlevels work? |
| 00:33.02 | sjv | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.07 | starfishy | boot and in the grub menu edit the command line to include a single s at the end of the kernel statement |
| 00:33.10 | azeem | Rudirogdt: maybe it tries to extract it to /tmp first? Didn't you say you removed that? |
| 00:33.13 | sjv | but then you have to remount / read-only |
| 00:33.28 | starfishy | you could also just do a telinit s |
| 00:33.40 | starfishy | it wont fully reboot tough, just drop into single user mode |
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| 00:33.55 | dvm1981 | azeem: that is the sended mail list ? |
| 00:34.07 | azeem | dvm1981: no that's outgoing queue :) |
| 00:34.14 | azeem | if you ran mailq |
| 00:34.34 | dvm1981 | azeem: yep, so it's not send then? |
| 00:34.40 | azeem | indeed |
| 00:34.42 | azeem | dvm1981: so you need to fix your mail setup |
| 00:34.49 | Jeeves_Moss | startfishy: I tried it, it asked for the admin password, etc, then I did the fsck command, it complained about filesystem danage, so I hit yes, now its rebooting. |
| 00:34.50 | Rudirogdt | azeem i never had it. i removed it from the example given at early install... |
| 00:35.08 | dvm1981 | azeem: dpkg-reconfigure exim4 ? |
| 00:35.08 | azeem | example given? |
| 00:35.14 | azeem | dvm1981: probably yes |
| 00:35.15 | sjv | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:35.39 | spoopin | dvm1981: what are you trying to do with exim4? |
| 00:35.41 | dvm1981 | azeem: okidoki :-) |
| 00:35.44 | Jeeves_Moss | ajv: and here we go witht he power switch problems AGAIN. ARRGGHHH, I hate this system |
| 00:35.47 | gpm | hey. i'm on a router with three boxen and i'm trying to get all requests for box1.domain.com to go over to what is locally 192.168.1.100 by editing the httpd.conf of the server that now handles all http requests...i think i can do it with mod_rewrite, but i'm not totally sure how. any clues? |
| 00:35.59 | dvm1981 | spoopin: setup it |
| 00:36.07 | gpm | right now no ports forward to 192.168.1.100, but i can change that |
| 00:36.13 | spoopin | dvm1981: apt-get install exim4-config |
| 00:36.15 | abrotman | you'll have to |
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| 00:36.51 | dvm1981 | spoopin: Really thx, i was thingking ..., it"s not installed now |
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| 00:37.03 | spoopin | dvm1981: no problem |
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| 00:37.37 | Rudirogdt | azeem yes the installer asks for an example of partitioning the hard drive before files get copied i.e. 200mb root, 3 gbyte usr, 2 gbyte var, 6gbyte swap an so on.... i removed that swap an temp. at the install on the harddrive before the new one i removed them after install... |
| 00:38.14 | spoopin | gpm: mod_proxy does that sort of thing, I think although i've never used it myself... |
| 00:38.26 | azeem | Rudirogdt: just because /tmp isn't a partition on its own doesn't mean it shouldn't be there at all |
| 00:38.30 | dvm1981 | It's looks that exim4 is been installed. How to configure it agian ? 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4' not work |
| 00:38.42 | azeem | dvm1981: hrm, exim4-config I think |
| 00:38.43 | dvm1981 | i forget a thing |
| 00:39.00 | dvm1981 | azeem: yes :-) |
| 00:39.07 | spoopin | dvm1981: if exim4-config is installed, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 00:39.27 | dvm1981 | spoopin: i im the interface now :-0 |
| 00:40.00 | spoopin | dvm1981: cool. I am the walrus ;) |
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| 00:40.19 | dvm1981 | So, the first question, i split it always the config file. good or not, suggestions ? |
| 00:40.36 | dvm1981 | spoopin: no man, you're a good man ;-) |
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| 00:40.50 | spoopin | dvm1981: thanks, man. |
| 00:41.33 | dvm1981 | spoopin: that really :-) other are here also verrry good :-) |
| 00:42.07 | dvm1981 | So i plit the config in little files ? Like i do it always |
| 00:42.25 | Rudirogdt | azeem hmmmmm should i build a new partition for temp or swap ? i don“t want files stored there for caching becouse of lots of storage wich is aes encrypted and used over the network... |
| 00:42.35 | spoopin | dvm1981: I usually go for the split file setup |
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| 00:43.53 | kspath | dvm1981: try zsh perl python ion3 openbox3 |
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| 00:44.28 | azeem | Rudirogdt: whatever you want, but /tmp should exist |
| 00:44.34 | azeem | maybe I misunderstood you |
| 00:44.39 | dvm1981 | kspath: python i already like it :-) |
| 00:44.45 | Rudirogdt | ok |
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| 00:45.13 | skrewz | Yesterday (or ``earlier today'', for Americans) I asked about multivolume DVD-backupping. It seems that tar will do what I want. Now, do you have any recommendations about storing a large amount of DVD-R's? |
| 00:45.19 | kspath | dvm1981: hehehe try ruby after you use perl and zsh |
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| 00:45.23 | Rudirogdt | is there a need for a filesystem on /tmp ? |
| 00:45.29 | azeem | Rudirogdt: no |
| 00:45.41 | azeem | Rudirogdt: if you can deal with it being on the root file system |
| 00:45.52 | dvm1981 | kspath: with these i have no experience at this moment, i hope there comme changes :-) |
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| 00:46.25 | Rudirogdt | azeem tmp needs just to be mounted ? hmmm root fs would be a littlebit small with 256mb maximum ^^ |
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| 00:46.57 | azeem | Rudirogdt: so put it on new parition |
| 00:46.59 | azeem | partition |
| 00:47.02 | e-doll | i have an hp photosmart 1115 series printer and i don't know how to set it up. Im in Control Center, undrer the printer catagory |
| 00:47.26 | azeem | anyway, I'm going to bed, good night |
| 00:47.35 | thingfish | good night, azeem. |
| 00:47.36 | Rudirogdt | azeem gn8 and thnx |
| 00:47.40 | e-doll | can someone help me set up my printer please? |
| 00:47.58 | thingfish | e-doll: gnome-cups-manager |
| 00:48.16 | tonyb2006 | http://localhost:631/ is also good |
| 00:48.17 | e-doll | hi hi thingfish, it's me, worthy |
| 00:48.34 | thingfish | hi! |
| 00:48.40 | skrewz | e-doll: What desktop environment do you use? KDE? GNOME? |
| 00:48.57 | e-doll | thingfish: i got a pop up message that said CUPS server could not be contacted |
| 00:49.03 | e-doll | im using kde skrewz |
| 00:49.10 | noiesmo | e-doll, check this youll need to apt-get install hpijs driver http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_P1100 |
| 00:49.12 | tonyb2006 | apt-get install cupsys |
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| 00:49.35 | tonyb2006 | apt-get install cupsys <--install cups |
| 00:49.37 | e-doll | ok |
| 00:49.56 | thingfish | e-doll: as tonyb2006 says, apt-get install cupsys. |
| 00:49.59 | tonyb2006 | :D |
| 00:50.13 | skrewz | e-doll: Then you're printing through CUPS. noiesmo leads the way, it seems. |
| 00:50.36 | e-doll | ok |
| 00:50.59 | dr_doom | e-doll, kde has pretty nice tools under control panel as long as you install the utils for kde |
| 00:51.02 | De_Mon | whats the proper way to reload /etc/aliases? |
| 00:51.03 | e-doll | wow i love you guys |
| 00:51.16 | thingfish | we love us too. |
| 00:51.24 | e-doll | apt-get install kde-utils? |
| 00:51.28 | De_Mon | i love me even more |
| 00:51.41 | tonyb2006 | i like me. |
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| 00:51.54 | spoopin | De_Mon: what do you mean, 'reload /etc/aliases'? |
| 00:52.19 | thingfish | hey what happened to fbi/thc? did he get banned, or a job? |
| 00:52.24 | dr_doom | e-doll, kdeprint i think |
| 00:52.31 | skrewz | De_Mon: if Postfix's your mta, you could `postalias /etc/aliases`. |
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| 00:52.53 | De_Mon | spoopin postalias -r /etc/aliases is the traditional way, wondering if theres a debian way :) |
| 00:53.18 | e-doll | ok |
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| 00:53.57 | spoopin | De_Mon: I guess that depends on the MTA you're using. Exim doesn't require anything other than the existance of the file. |
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| 00:54.44 | De_Mon | spoopin oh.. i thought postalias was a postfix thing.. oops I didn't mention postfix or postalias! sorry |
| 00:54.44 | skrewz | De_Mon: Not to my knowledge. |
| 00:55.09 | De_Mon | dumb thing is still mailing users that don't exist |
| 00:55.21 | PeQua | Hello, is there in the apt list a program what i could use to replace KOrn (the mailchecker)? Can't find one myself, maybe someone else know some? |
| 00:55.29 | spoopin | De_Mon: ah. It looks like it is a postfix thing. Never used it myself.... |
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| 00:56.03 | noiesmo | PeQua, apt-cache search korn possibly |
| 00:56.12 | EleckttrusS | who used sid + Experimental?æ |
| 00:56.33 | dvs | !polls |
| 00:56.33 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
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| 00:57.00 | PeQua | nono, a replacement for KOrn noiesmo |
| 00:57.05 | dr_doom | apt-cache search mail notify |
| 00:57.07 | Rudirogdt | puuuuhhhh now it works thanks to all :) |
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| 00:57.43 | PeQua | ah tnx dr_doom, got some results |
| 00:57.45 | dvm1981 | openbox3 not in Stable Version ? i see there only openbox |
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| 00:58.02 | noiesmo | PeQua, so lesson learnt apt-cache search yesyes |
| 00:58.31 | PeQua | no :p i know apt-cache searches ;-) but well you just have to get to those two words |
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| 00:59.49 | dr_doom | PeQua, you could just search mail - the list would be alot more though |
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| 01:00.01 | tag | Ok, I'm trying to start up a nested X session with xinit...now, this works fine on my ubuntu system and if I recall correctly I used to do it from debian, but on this box it's failing. I'm using the command: xinit /usr/bin/ion3 -- /usr/X11R6/bin/Xnest :3...and I'm getting the error: AUDIT: Fri Jan 27 16:59:26 2006: 1888 Xnest: client 1 rejected from local host |
| 01:00.03 | tag | what'd cause that? |
| 01:00.18 | e-doll | printer failed. cupsdoprint -P 'MyHP1115' -J 'KDE Print Test' -H 'localhost:631' -U 'root' -o ' multiple-document-handling=separate-documents-uncollated-copies orientation-requested=3' '/usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps' : execution failed with message: |
| 01:00.26 | e-doll | what does that mean? :-( |
| 01:00.49 | Jeeves_Moss | all: I'm back. has any one ever set up a newtork boot? I'd like to be able to boot all my servers from a blank Debian install from the BIOS network boot |
| 01:00.54 | e-doll | client-error-not-possible |
| 01:01.25 | e-doll | cupsdoprint -P 'MyHP1115' -J 'KDE Print Test' -H 'localhost:631' -U 'root' -o ' multiple-document-handling=separate-documents-uncollated-copies orientation-requested=3' '/usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps' : execution failed with message client-error-not-possible |
| 01:01.31 | e-doll | that :-( |
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| 01:01.57 | dr_doom | e-doll, did you add the printer using kde-print? |
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| 01:02.19 | e-doll | i added it in the control center |
| 01:02.24 | tag | ...._XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/sludge:9 |
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| 01:02.27 | tag | that's probably why |
| 01:02.29 | tag | son of a |
| 01:02.37 | e-doll | i don't have kde-print command |
| 01:02.52 | Blacky_ | yes |
| 01:03.04 | gozz | whats the command to find my debian version? |
| 01:03.11 | dr_doom | the kde print manager in the kde control panel i mean |
| 01:03.13 | e-doll | uname -a |
| 01:03.29 | gozz | thanks |
| 01:03.32 | dvs | gozz: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 01:03.35 | e-doll | yes, im in there dr_doom |
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| 01:03.50 | Jeeves_Moss | gozz: uname -r |
| 01:03.52 | Luthy | hello |
| 01:04.01 | e-doll | i added it, picked my driver out of the list and everything dr_doom |
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| 01:04.15 | Jeeves_Moss | e-doll: have you ever set up a network boot? |
| 01:04.30 | e-doll | no Jeeves :-( |
| 01:04.31 | gozz | it says 3.1 |
| 01:04.40 | gozz | is this sarge? |
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| 01:04.56 | Rudirogdt | is it possible to use dev-mapper and cryptsetup with tapes ? |
| 01:05.01 | dvs | gozz: Yup |
| 01:05.05 | dr_doom | e-doll, and it failed when you tried to print a test page? |
| 01:05.10 | Luthy | well im gonna go. bye all |
| 01:05.13 | Jeeves_Moss | e-doll: thanks. I'm just trying to find a way of putting up a fresh image to the network so if I have issues with a system, I can just tell the BIOS to network boot |
| 01:05.13 | Luthy | :-) |
| 01:05.20 | e-doll | yes dr_doom maybe i didn't do it right |
| 01:05.28 | Jeeves_Moss | dvs: have you ever set up a network boot? |
| 01:05.38 | dvs | Jeeves_Moss: nope |
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| 01:06.06 | Jeeves_Moss | all: ANYONE set up a network boot before? |
| 01:06.09 | gozz | i am installing ati drivers so do i pick Debian/3.1 or Debian/sarge cause it has both? |
| 01:06.17 | dvs | !anyone |
| 01:06.17 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 01:07.01 | Jeeves_Moss | dpkg: network boot, howto |
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| 01:07.21 | e-doll | brb i desperately need a smoke im steamed |
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| 01:08.19 | gozz | or do i choose both? |
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| 01:08.48 | dvm1981 | I not find openbox3 :-( |
| 01:08.57 | shakumafu | need help with graphics card driver installation- says kernel not found |
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| 01:09.19 | gozz | i dont blame anyone for not having an ati card cause they suck |
| 01:09.32 | K350 | Hi again..Does somebody know how to block/unblock a port wiht ipchains? |
| 01:09.34 | shakumafu | its nvidia |
| 01:09.35 | gozz | well their drivers suck |
| 01:09.37 | dr_doom | e-doll, I had problems like that, i am trying to remember, i think i installed gimp-print and told it to use that. I would look under linuxprinting.org and see what driver is the best for you, and see if your printer is supported |
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| 01:10.42 | gozz | my nvidia works great |
| 01:10.47 | shakumafu | well the nvidia drivers work under fc4 with no error |
| 01:11.04 | shakumafu | i tried dling the kernel but it did nothin |
| 01:11.15 | gozz | i ment ati drivers :) |
| 01:11.50 | gozz | what kernel? |
| 01:11.58 | shakumafu | hang on |
| 01:12.07 | shakumafu | forgot |
| 01:12.17 | dr_doom | i got my ati setup where it works pretty good, but it was a bitch |
| 01:12.26 | skrewz | shakumafu: `uname -a` |
| 01:13.18 | gozz | i have yet to get my all in wonder to work with the new drivers and i cant find the old ones |
| 01:13.20 | shakumafu | says Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Mon May 16 |
| 01:13.24 | shakumafu | and ... |
| 01:13.50 | skrewz | Do the nvidia binary modules work with the 2.4 series at all? |
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| 01:14.23 | Blacky_ | What is ubuntu? |
| 01:14.29 | noiesmo | e-doll, apt-get install cupsys hpijs then go http://localhost:631 for cups manager add printer |
| 01:14.39 | dondelelcaro | Blacky_: that question is best asked in #ubuntu |
| 01:14.47 | e-doll | ok dr-doom thanks |
| 01:15.01 | e-doll | ok noiesmo |
| 01:15.12 | Blacky_ | thank you dondelelcaro |
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| 01:16.10 | shakumafu | well it also says the kernel problem when i try to install the nforce drivers |
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| 01:16.57 | skrewz | I'm a dilletant with respect to binary-only drivers -- wouldn't know. |
| 01:17.15 | Shadowcat | heh I don't even use the binary nvidia drivers |
| 01:17.17 | Shadowcat | no need to |
| 01:17.26 | shakumafu | well im just a newbie |
| 01:17.45 | Shadowcat | you don't need to use them unless you plan on gaming |
| 01:17.55 | shakumafu | well i got cedega |
| 01:18.15 | bcc | where can i get a list of all possible kernel command parameters? |
| 01:18.38 | skrewz | Well, my advise would be, to do 3d-stuff in Windows (since that is what the vendors want you to), and have an unscarred Debian system. |
| 01:19.05 | skrewz | bcc: It's a bit outdated AFAIK, but `man bootparm`? |
| 01:19.16 | shakumafu | yeah |
| 01:19.19 | bcc | skrewz: ok thanks |
| 01:19.33 | shakumafu | probably should just stick with windows for gaming |
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| 01:19.44 | shakumafu | thanks for help though |
| 01:19.50 | skrewz | That'd be `man bootparam`. |
| 01:19.51 | bcc | i'm trying to figure out if there is a way to disable acpi video, but not other things |
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| 01:20.39 | skrewz | shakumafu: me2. Not many free games exist, anyway. |
| 01:20.43 | Rudirogdt | nvidia drivers should be used in some situations... i.e. when you want to use 1gbit lan ;) |
| 01:20.52 | shakumafu | i would like to get the mobo drivers workin at least |
| 01:21.01 | bcc | skrewz: do you know what's the difference between noapm and apm=off? |
| 01:21.14 | bcc | skrewz: or noacpi and acpi=off for that matter |
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| 01:21.29 | skrewz | bcc: No, I don't, in neither case. |
| 01:21.32 | zinx | Rudirogdt: forcedeth doesn't do 1gbit? |
| 01:21.38 | bcc | skrewz: ok ,thanks |
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| 01:21.56 | Rudirogdt | zinx the last time i tried it did only 100mbit... |
| 01:21.56 | noiesmo | !tell shakumafu nvidia installer |
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| 01:22.27 | kaleid_ | gud naigt |
| 01:22.29 | Rudirogdt | well it is about 9 months in past.... |
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| 01:23.03 | zinx | Rudirogdt: the source has references to gbit, anyway |
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| 01:25.46 | Rudirogdt | zinx the probably have added that in the time I already used the nvidia stuff... afaik the driver package contains other stuff for the chipset... why buying a very new board to be not able use some stuff at fullspeed? but i dont care wethere somebode uses that or that driver... :) |
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| 01:28.14 | centrx | Question: How do I determine the length of a video file with mplayer, or possibly some other program? |
| 01:28.52 | Rudirogdt | well it is anoying to install the driver and not having the ability to have it in the kernel package |
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| 01:29.06 | Sonny | Hello, I just upgrade from sarge to etch, and now it is asking me what X server to use, should I pick xorg or xfree86? |
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| 01:29.23 | vulture | centrx: mpginfo (in the mpgtx package) can tell you the duration |
| 01:29.30 | shakumafu | What's a good java compiler for debian? |
| 01:29.37 | vulture | shakumafu: Sun's. |
| 01:29.38 | mgoetze | Sonny: only pick xorg if your conscience allows it. otherwise pick xfree86 |
| 01:29.43 | bazz | i'm trying to boot a computer using pxe. i'm getting PXE-T01 file not found, is there a way i can tell what file it's looking for? |
| 01:29.51 | centrx | vulture, Thank you. |
| 01:29.53 | vulture | shakumafu: java.sun.com/j2se/1.5 |
| 01:29.54 | Sonny | mgoetze, what do you mean? |
| 01:30.02 | shakumafu | thanks vulture |
| 01:30.08 | vulture | shakumafu: you can build a debian package from Sun's binary distributable using the Debian java-package package |
| 01:30.39 | mgoetze | Sonny: the xorg license is a bit controversial. anyway, sarge used xfree86, if you're happy with the way things have been working, just stick with that |
| 01:31.13 | roo9 | which netblock is reserved for use in documetation? |
| 01:31.18 | abrotman | no . the xfree license is controversial |
| 01:31.21 | abrotman | the xorg license is fine |
| 01:31.37 | Sonny | mgoetze, thanks.. in that case I'll stil living with xfree86 |
| 01:31.44 | Blacky_ | omg xfree |
| 01:31.49 | abrotman | Sonny: mgoetze is wrong .. the xfree license is the bad one |
| 01:31.49 | tonyb2006 | yes, thets why xorg forked xf86 |
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| 01:32.12 | tonyb2006 | xf86 switched to a non-gpl compatable liscense |
| 01:32.21 | Sonny | abrotman, so what should I do? |
| 01:32.23 | mgoetze | goes to show how much i care about these license debates :) |
| 01:32.37 | Coweater | not non-gpl, non-free |
| 01:32.38 | abrotman | mgoetze: and spreading false data |
| 01:32.44 | abrotman | Sonny: use xorg ? |
| 01:32.52 | shakumafu | vulture: it comes as a binary file, which means i run it with ./ right? (a real newbie here ;)) |
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| 01:32.56 | abrotman | the xfree in sarge still has a good license |
| 01:33.07 | vulture | shakumafu: Yeah, though it's kind of nicer to make a debian package from it. |
| 01:33.10 | Sonny | abrotman, I was using xf86 in sarge, but I dont know if it works in etch |
| 01:33.17 | Paula69 | hey sonny |
| 01:33.20 | noiesmo | abrotman, that will confuse him |
| 01:33.21 | tonyb2006 | xorg is in etch |
| 01:33.26 | abrotman | Sonny: why are you going to etch ? |
| 01:33.27 | shakumafu | vulture: how do i do that? |
| 01:33.33 | Paula69 | SONNY |
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| 01:33.38 | kaleid_ | xfree86 very slow with nvidia drivers un startup |
| 01:33.42 | abrotman | Paula69: stop with the caps |
| 01:33.44 | Sonny | hi Paula69 |
| 01:33.44 | vulture | shakumafu: install & use the java-package package |
| 01:33.53 | centrx | Sonny, you should use xorg anyway because it is under active development whereas xfree86, not so much |
| 01:34.03 | Sonny | abrotman, cause I had some problems, so I decided to upgrade |
| 01:34.12 | abrotman | ok ..so move to xorg |
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| 01:34.17 | JRWR | how do i pipe shell script output into a file but still print it |
| 01:34.24 | tnks | does anyone know of a little utility that might be used for automating the removal of attachments from some mbox's? |
| 01:34.28 | abrotman | man tee .. i think is what you want |
| 01:34.44 | abrotman | JRWR: man tee .. i think is what you want |
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| 01:34.54 | tnks | I'm not exactly sure about the mbox format. Up until now, I'm been going into a MUA that let's me do it manually. |
| 01:34.56 | skrewz | JRWR: You don't. You redirect in background, and tail -f the file. |
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| 01:35.06 | Paula69 | SONNY |
| 01:35.12 | Paula69 | I NEED TO TALK TO YOU |
| 01:35.13 | abrotman | Paula69: stop doing that! |
| 01:35.14 | JRWR | ? |
| 01:35.15 | tnks | I figure there must be a way to automate stripping mail. |
| 01:35.16 | JRWR | tail |
| 01:35.22 | Paula69 | i'm sorry |
| 01:35.22 | vulture | skrewz: no. You do do it, using "tee" |
| 01:35.35 | cusco | can talk to mee to paula |
| 01:35.35 | cusco | lol |
| 01:35.38 | skrewz | vulture: JRWR : I realised. Sorry. |
| 01:35.39 | abrotman | tnks: i'm sure there is |
| 01:35.41 | vulture | JRWR: read the "tee" man page as abrotman mentioned |
| 01:36.06 | Paula69 | i need to ask you some questions |
| 01:36.08 | Sonny | ok people so I'll decide for Xorg |
| 01:36.19 | Sonny | Paula69 go to the libre |
| 01:36.21 | abrotman | Paula69: just god damn ask .. stop being a pest |
| 01:36.25 | Paula69 | ok |
| 01:36.30 | cusco | ofcourse you will Sonny |
| 01:36.37 | kaleid_ | so anyone knows why xserver start is very slow with the nvidia drivers installed? |
| 01:36.37 | cusco | why wouldn't you?! |
| 01:37.20 | Paula69 | you're so nice abrotman |
| 01:37.29 | Sonny | lol |
| 01:37.30 | cusco | so... questions starting with "so" are terrifiing |
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| 01:37.34 | abrotman | Paula69: just ask the question .. |
| 01:37.42 | Sonny | abrotman, Dont be rude with my friend |
| 01:37.49 | cusco | Paula69: i'm in love for your nick |
| 01:37.50 | JRWR | so/ ./script | tee log.log |
| 01:37.53 | abrotman | Sonny: then tell Paula69 TO JUST ASK ALREADY |
| 01:37.57 | cusco | may I make love to it? |
| 01:37.58 | skrewz | Sonny: tell your friend not to shout? |
| 01:38.00 | cusco | !love |
| 01:38.00 | dpkg | Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. |
| 01:38.02 | abrotman | cusco: stop |
| 01:38.05 | cusco | :( |
| 01:38.08 | odb_ | should have conky (installed using apt) have a conkyrc in my home dir ? |
| 01:38.10 | Sonny | ok guys I'll tell her |
| 01:38.13 | odb_ | hi btw |
| 01:38.22 | odb_ | debian etc |
| 01:38.25 | odb_ | h |
| 01:38.32 | gau | is there any program that i can use to dynamically view dmesg ? |
| 01:38.37 | Sonny | she's pretty new in this channel, so she don't know the "rules" |
| 01:38.40 | abrotman | gau: tail -f |
| 01:38.48 | kspath | rulez? |
| 01:38.49 | gau | as in it should update as and when i get new data ... |
| 01:38.53 | Paula69 | i don't want to talk to you abortman |
| 01:38.55 | gau | abrotman: that's what i do now ... |
| 01:39.01 | abrotman | Paula69: then use /ignore .. |
| 01:39.06 | abrotman | gau: so what's wrong with that ? |
| 01:39.21 | cusco | gau: you can pipe dmesg several ways.. what do you mean dynamic? |
| 01:39.22 | mhall | odb_: no, dotfiles are genned when you first run the prog usually |
| 01:39.32 | odb_ | can run |
| 01:39.34 | gau | abrotman: typing it in every few seconds is not easy |
| 01:39.39 | odb_ | cause throws error |
| 01:39.42 | abrotman | gau: tail -f .. the -f follows |
| 01:39.43 | kristalino | what soft should i user for a web hosting application for several users ? |
| 01:39.44 | skrewz | gau: `tail -f /var/log/kern.log`? |
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| 01:39.55 | odb_ | [fidel@cuba:~] conky |
| 01:39.56 | odb_ | Speicherzugriffsfehler |
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| 01:40.15 | odb_ | means: memory acceess violation or something like that |
| 01:40.24 | noiesmo | kristalino, apache? php |
| 01:40.24 | gau | shrewz even that would require me to type in the command over and over with evry change i make ... |
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| 01:40.26 | abrotman | odb_: german ? |
| 01:40.31 | abrotman | gau: NO |
| 01:40.43 | abrotman | gau: tail -f /var/log/dmesg |
| 01:40.46 | odb_ | abrotman: english is ok |
| 01:40.52 | skrewz | gau: No, as -f keeps the program running. |
| 01:40.54 | kaleid_ | the only answer I get for this question :" so anyone knows why xserver start is very slow with the nvidia drivers installed?" was silence |
| 01:40.59 | abrotman | gau: man tail |
| 01:41.10 | gau | ah tnx |
| 01:41.11 | abrotman | kaleid_: are you using the nvidia binary crap drivers? |
| 01:41.12 | odb_ | but basicly yes abrotman |
| 01:41.27 | kaleid_ | yeah |
| 01:41.29 | kspath | !beer abrotman |
| 01:41.33 | kaleid_ | thanx abrotman |
| 01:41.34 | odb_ | im wondering too why error is in german |
| 01:41.34 | abrotman | kaleid_: maybe ask #nvidia |
| 01:41.45 | dvs | !abrotman++ |
| 01:42.08 | kristalino | noiesmo, errrm, an application that allows clients to add mysql databases, setup their subdomains names, etc. Everything a professionnal web hoster do. |
| 01:42.24 | kaleid_ | ok, I just think it was a problem of Debian |
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| 01:42.38 | mhall | kaleid_: we don't know because 1) ECHAN and 2) that's a closed source driver and nobody knows what it does |
| 01:42.49 | mhall | kaleid_: so if it fucked up, that's NOT our fault |
| 01:43.03 | kaleid_ | easy tiger |
| 01:43.06 | mhall | kaleid_: how can you expect us to cooperate with something we have no source code for? |
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| 01:43.15 | kaleid_ | you don't have responsability on that |
| 01:43.38 | mhall | kaleid_: no dude, i'm tired of people coming into the channel all the time and bitching about debian screwing stuff up when it's obvious we can't do anything about it |
| 01:44.03 | kaleid_ | I understand |
| 01:44.07 | mhall | kaleid_: and i'm not taking crap off somebody who is new here and saying incorrect stuff then telling me to calm down when i call them on it |
| 01:44.10 | mhall | that's BS |
| 01:44.27 | kaleid_ | you're tryung to keep attention |
| 01:44.31 | mhall | if you don't like my reponse, then get me kicked |
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| 01:44.48 | mhall | you won't be able to |
| 01:44.58 | kaleid_ | I'm newbie, that's all |
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| 01:45.37 | skrewz | mhall: btw, what seems to cause people frustrations? |
| 01:45.46 | Serialkiller | question, what package contains libgthread-2.0.so.0 |
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| 01:45.51 | abrotman | nvidia makes crap |
| 01:45.56 | mhall | so was i, but it doesn't mean i had the right to blame things without researching it first |
| 01:45.59 | skrewz | mhall: I mean, its often some binary crap, right? |
| 01:46.18 | mhall | skrewz: yeah i mean, nvidia wfm but i don't like people blaming debian when it fucks up |
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| 01:46.24 | mhall | skrewz: we didn't license it non-free |
| 01:46.26 | skrewz | Serialkiller: Install apt-file, use that. |
| 01:46.27 | kaleid_ | the xserver starts very fast without the nvidia drivers |
| 01:46.29 | mhall | skrewz: so it's not our fuckup |
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| 01:46.40 | mhall | kaleid_: so... blame debian even though our stock config worked |
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| 01:47.11 | kaleid_ | i'm not dislike Debian; I like very much |
| 01:47.27 | kaleid_ | it was only a question, forget it man |
| 01:48.00 | skrewz | mhall: Well, I wanted to ask to your experience -- what are the major problemmakers for newcomers? |
| 01:48.11 | mgoetze | lalala... 3gb copied, 15 to go... man, nfs sure is slow |
| 01:48.22 | kaleid_ | mmm |
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| 01:48.27 | dvs | skrewz: ALSA |
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| 01:48.43 | kaleid_ | well i'm coming from mircoshit |
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| 01:48.54 | kaleid_ | it's like a new world from me |
| 01:49.16 | kaleid_ | from microshit to SuSe...now Debian |
| 01:49.37 | Serialkiller | skrewz : ok i install updated and did a list for that file and it comes back nothing |
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| 01:49.39 | abrotman | do you actually need 3d ? |
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| 01:49.50 | kaleid_ | yeah |
| 01:49.55 | karsten | abrotman: I'm getting one of the new *4d* video cards. |
| 01:49.55 | abrotman | for what? |
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| 01:50.08 | dvs | o_O |
| 01:50.08 | karsten | abrotman: ... they're the ones that let the image change over time. It's a radical improvement. |
| 01:50.11 | kaleid_ | because I ' ve planned to install "neverwinter nights" |
| 01:50.18 | abrotman | karsten: porn look better on those? |
| 01:50.22 | skrewz | Yeah, ALSA seems like a troble to many, too. Which reminds me, do OSS have any sort of multiple voices-api, or is it just oss-emulation in alsa that's broken? |
| 01:50.23 | abrotman | isn't NWN SDL ? |
| 01:50.34 | kaleid_ | i don't know that |
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| 01:50.53 | kaleid_ | but the client install weights 1 gb |
| 01:51.47 | skrewz | Serialkiller: `apt-file search libgthread-2.0.so.0` gives me libglib2.0-0 and libglib2.0-0-dbg. |
| 01:52.20 | Serialkiller | skrewz : thansk i was usiong list instead of search |
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| 01:53.49 | tatoo | hey folks, i'm running my new kernel 2.6.15-1-k7 but it can't load my nvidia. i just apt-cached it and the closest pre-compiled package i have here is that nvidia-kernel-2.6-k7. I tried to install it but the my X server didn't response. Any clue to fix it? |
| 01:54.17 | WildPenguin | Whenever 'sudo' is used to execute any graphical app, I receive an error similar to the following: "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: ". Any suggestions on how to correct this? |
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| 01:54.58 | karsten | !tell WildPenguin about sux |
| 01:55.09 | abrotman | WildPenguin: gksu or sux |
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| 01:57.47 | WildPenguin | abrotman, gksu |
| 01:58.19 | WildPenguin | sux appears to work fine. |
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| 02:02.48 | Jeeves_Moss | all: ok, I'm back again. still with the networking issue. any one want to help? |
| 02:02.50 | WildPenguin | abrotman, although, this does not solve sudo misbehaving. |
| 02:02.58 | mhall | skrewz: flash, nvidia, especially ATi |
| 02:03.02 | mhall | skrewz: alsa |
| 02:03.06 | mhall | skrewz: printing is teh sux |
| 02:03.30 | Jeeves_Moss | WildPenguin: are you any good @ figuring out networking issues? |
| 02:03.43 | abrotman | WildPenguin: you're not supposed to use sudo . use sux or gksu |
| 02:03.56 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: is the driver loaded? |
| 02:04.12 | abrotman | dmesg | grep -i eth0 |
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| 02:04.51 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: I'm not sure. If I ifconfig eth0 <fooIPaddress> then I can connect to it. NOTHING has changed (by my editing) since I shut it down and the problems started |
| 02:05.04 | WildPenguin | abrotman, gksu works, gksudo does not - so still a problem remains. In the past it has worked fine, but i am unsure what changed to cause the problem. |
| 02:05.22 | abrotman | what problem? |
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| 02:05.44 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: /msg dpkg interfaces |
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| 02:06.18 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: didden't like that command |
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| 02:06.58 | abrotman | !tell Jeeves_Moss about interfaces |
| 02:07.06 | WildPenguin | abrotman, I am unable to use anything related to sudo, gksudo included. |
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| 02:07.15 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: as I said, if I manualy enter the address, it connects to the outside world. its like the interface isn't comming up (allthough it says it does in the boot), and its not reading the interfaces file |
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| 02:07.41 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: paste your interfaces file somewhere |
| 02:07.42 | Thanatermesis | gtkcam don't works by for my user, only for root... any idea about what permission i need on this ? (add a group?) |
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| 02:07.57 | abrotman | WildPenguin: so what's the error ? |
| 02:08.05 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: sudgestions on where? |
| 02:08.09 | abrotman | !paste |
| 02:08.09 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 02:08.24 | concept10 | how do I get k3b to recognize my installed encoders? (mad and lame) |
| 02:08.48 | WildPenguin | abrotman, "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: " or similar, depending on what is being executed. |
| 02:08.53 | Jeeves_Moss | abtotman: /join #jeeves |
| 02:08.56 | abrotman | that's not a sudo warning |
| 02:09.03 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: no .. /j #flood |
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| 02:09.45 | WildPenguin | abrotman, I know, although I can only replicate this using sudo, which in the past would have been successful. |
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| 02:10.01 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: so I just pase ALL of it in there? |
| 02:10.06 | abrotman | why don't you try a normal sudo command instead of trying to run stuff as root in X |
| 02:10.18 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: yes |
| 02:10.33 | skrewz | Thanatermesis: I believe the group ``camera'' is what you want to be a member of. Remember logging in again. |
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| 02:11.02 | Thanatermesis | login again in a terminal/bash ? ok... i try to add the group |
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| 02:11.36 | ACU07 | Good evening ! Do you have any knowledge about a software to capture the screen and voice in the same time (something similar to Camtasia ?) - I know about Istanbul recorder - but it doesnot do sound |
| 02:11.41 | Jeeves_Moss | abrtotman: ok, pasting now. |
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| 02:12.14 | skrewz | Thanatermesis: I don't remember the extent, but probably you need to relogin to your WM. |
| 02:12.18 | Breeder | i dont have ttyS0 in /dev any way of instructing udev to create it? or just need to create it using makedev only once? |
| 02:12.36 | Thanatermesis | ok skrewz, i think to are a simple similar problem.. i try it, thanks |
| 02:12.39 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: ideas? |
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| 02:12.56 | dvs | Breeder: Load the serial driver |
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| 02:13.09 | abrotman | moment |
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| 02:13.30 | K350 | Soes somebody know how to bloc/unblock ports wiht ipchains? |
| 02:13.34 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: ok. as I said, the system hung one night when I went to shut it down, now its pulling this. |
| 02:13.35 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: ok .. which one is the one you're trying to use .. eth0 or eth1 ? |
| 02:14.08 | abrotman | K350: you use iptables now |
| 02:14.09 | abrotman | !iptables |
| 02:14.10 | dpkg | somebody said iptables was the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 02:14.13 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: eth0, eth1 is the heartbeat NIC (for later use) |
| 02:14.22 | K350 | yes I do |
| 02:14.42 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: it failes the DNS resoulation when it boots (it tires to sync to a time sever) |
| 02:14.48 | K350 | the system is wid eopen and we've to know how to block/unblock ports iht ip chains |
| 02:15.00 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: is it a laptop ? |
| 02:15.09 | abrotman | K350: no .. you want to use iptables |
| 02:15.19 | abrotman | they are different |
| 02:15.28 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: nope, desktop box thats being a time/HL2/SMB server |
| 02:15.31 | K350 | wel do you recomend something else instead of ipchains? |
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| 02:16.07 | Guerin | K350: nothing. |
| 02:16.11 | WildPenguin | abrotman, and what of gksudo? should I not be able to use this also for graphical programs? |
| 02:16.16 | abrotman | K350: YES >. IPTABLES |
| 02:16.39 | abrotman | !tell K350 about iptables |
| 02:16.43 | K350 | okey..can install that.. |
| 02:16.57 | mgoetze | K350: do you have a pre-2.4 kernel? if so, is there a good reason for it? |
| 02:17.07 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: there's nothing in dmesg ? |
| 02:17.16 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: as I said, everything worked fine untill that failed shutdown |
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| 02:17.28 | Jeeves_Moss | no, nothing in dmesg |
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| 02:17.37 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: it just loads the driver? |
| 02:18.11 | K350 | yeah .. |
| 02:18.19 | K350 | I an install that one instead.... |
| 02:18.29 | K350 | but uhm.... |
| 02:18.39 | K350 | in that one..how do we block/unblock ports there? |
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| 02:19.00 | abrotman | you go to the websites it tells you to .. and READ |
| 02:19.01 | mgoetze | K350: man iptables |
| 02:19.09 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: it loks like it. As I said, it won't do anything on the network untill I tell Eth0 to have a IP. Its like the interface dosen't read the interfaces file, and bring up the NIC |
| 02:19.10 | Guerin | K350: don't. You don't need to. |
| 02:19.30 | K350 | well.. |
| 02:19.38 | K350 | so what should I do? |
| 02:19.39 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: paste your dmesg somewhere |
| 02:19.45 | Guerin | K350: ports are blocked by default unless they have something listening on them - the only things you should have listening on ports are things you want running. |
| 02:19.48 | abrotman | K350: go read the websites |
| 02:20.22 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: the only way to do that is to assign ETH0 an IP address so I can do it remotly. is that going to screw anythingup? |
| 02:20.34 | abrotman | no |
| 02:20.46 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: ok, one sec |
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| 02:21.50 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: whats the command again? |
| 02:21.51 | K350 | but...... |
| 02:22.02 | K350 | if we wnn ablock a port anyway..and unblock it? |
| 02:22.06 | K350 | ok ok..man uh.... |
| 02:22.14 | Guerin | K350: don't run anything on it; it's blocked. |
| 02:22.18 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: dmesg ? |
| 02:22.31 | Sonny | hi guys, I was dist-upgrading from sarge to etch, but in the middle of the installation my laptop freezed! now I receive the message: "Disk error" when I try to boot |
| 02:22.32 | abrotman | K350: please go read the tutorials at netfilter.org |
| 02:22.44 | abrotman | !es |
| 02:22.44 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:22.46 | K350 | hm..ok |
| 02:23.01 | skrewz | Sonny: Auch. How far into the boot do you get? |
| 02:23.03 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: theres a lot here, do you want all of it? |
| 02:23.12 | abrotman | yes |
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| 02:23.27 | floppyears | hi |
| 02:23.29 | Sonny | skrewz, 3 or 4 lines :( |
| 02:23.44 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: ok, check flood |
| 02:23.51 | floppyears | does anybody know of a program or script that allows me to do the following convertion pdf or ps -> html |
| 02:23.54 | skrewz | Sonny: Is Linux booting? Do grub or lilo start? |
| 02:23.58 | abrotman | nice client |
| 02:24.17 | Breeder | dvs: Load the serial driver <- done, but still no ttySx in /dev |
| 02:24.23 | Sonny | skrewz, grub, yes I pick the kernel and after 3 or 4 lines Disk error |
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| 02:24.36 | dvs | Breeder: Then you're not using udev |
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| 02:25.30 | skrewz | Sonny: That, I can't help with. Any alternative kernels to try? |
| 02:25.32 | Breeder | dvs: i'm using udev |
| 02:25.42 | abrotman | damn it .. why am i hungry for pretzels |
| 02:25.42 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: ok, I pasted it, and I got booted |
| 02:25.49 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: i know .. your client stinks :) |
| 02:26.05 | dvs | Breeder: Then loading the serial driver would have created those entries |
| 02:26.14 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: I think its my connection that stinks. any ideas on this POS system? |
| 02:26.28 | floppyears | anybody ! |
| 02:27.04 | Jeeves_Moss | floppyyears: whats the problem? |
| 02:27.06 | Guerin | floppyears: /msg dpkg anybody |
| 02:27.09 | stoned | how do I search manpages? |
| 02:27.18 | skrewz | floppyears: `apt-cache show pdftohtml` |
| 02:27.22 | Guerin | floppyears: apt-cache search pdf ps html |
| 02:27.27 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: what clietn are you using ? |
| 02:27.28 | Jeeves_Moss | stoned: man <fooSubject> |
| 02:27.29 | Breeder | dvs: i loaded the serial_core this is the correct module? |
| 02:27.35 | Sonny | skrewz, yes but all of them freezes |
| 02:27.37 | floppyears | I'm looking for a way to convert a pdf or ps file into html |
| 02:27.39 | abrotman | stoned: man -k |
| 02:27.46 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: MIRC |
| 02:27.49 | abrotman | in linux ? |
| 02:27.58 | Sonny | can anybody help me to fix my problem? |
| 02:28.01 | stoned | there we go |
| 02:28.05 | Guerin | floppyears: no you're not, you're dithering on irc when you could be looking for one. |
| 02:28.06 | stoned | abrotman: thanks |
| 02:28.18 | abrotman | !find pdf2 sarge |
| 02:28.24 | floppyears | Guerin: I swear I did look, but nothing had shown up |
| 02:28.31 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'pdf2' (6 of 10): (/usr/bin/{pdf2dsc|pdf2ps}) in text/gs-common ;; (/usr/share/gs-esp/7.07/lib/pdf2dsc.ps) in text/gs-esp ;; (/usr/share/gs-gpl/8.01/lib/pdf2dsc.ps) in text/gs-gpl ;; (/usr/share/mantis/gui/images/pdf2icon.gif) in web/mantis ;; (/var/spool/hylafax/bin/pdf2fax.gs) in comm/hylafax-server ;; (/usr/share/gs-afpl/8.14/lib/pdf2dsc.ps) in non-free/text/gs-afpl. |
| 02:28.36 | dvs | Breeder: It's just called "serial" as far as I know. |
| 02:28.37 | floppyears | I had tried ps html pdf html and pdf2html ps2html |
| 02:28.42 | floppyears | but it didn't come up with anything :( |
| 02:28.49 | Guerin | floppyears: you can swear all you like |
| 02:29.18 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: ideas on that long feedback? |
| 02:29.19 | floppyears | Guerin: I had found many that go from html to ps or pdf but not the way around. thanks for you help |
| 02:30.21 | Breeder | dvs: the module serial isnt found |
| 02:30.26 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: i only got five lines .. you need a real IRC client |
| 02:30.34 | Jeeves_Moss | arrgghhh, |
| 02:30.46 | Sonny | hi guys, I was dist-upgrading from sarge to etch, but in the middle of the installation my laptop freezed! now I receive the message: "Disk error" when I try to boot |
| 02:30.51 | Guerin | floppyears: funny, because it's actually HARDER to convert froHTMLML to PS than the other way around |
| 02:30.57 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: is there anything your looking for in there? or is there another way I can send it to you? |
| 02:31.11 | kspath | Sonny: you might be better off in Sarge until you are ready. |
| 02:31.23 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: yeah .. fix the box .. get it an IP .. install irssi .. /j #flood and /exec -o dmesg |
| 02:31.35 | skrewz | kspath: Too late, nothing boots for him. Reinstall? |
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| 02:31.58 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: yeah .. fix the box .. get it an IP .. install irssi .. /j #flood and /exec -o dmesg |
| 02:32.03 | Sonny | kspath, excuse me? I dont understand what you mean |
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| 02:32.46 | vicarious | to do a sector copy floppy of boot.img should I enter term as su or do I need su - ? |
| 02:32.58 | Sonny | kspath, skrewz: if I reinstall my data will be like was before? |
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| 02:33.01 | rredd4 | any one know how to use colinux? |
| 02:33.12 | ootput | carefully |
| 02:33.17 | kspath | Sonny: I am saying you might be better off with a clean install of Sarge until you are ready with experience and knowledge to mess with etch |
| 02:33.34 | skrewz | Sonny: Depending on your partitioning -- probably not. |
| 02:33.59 | Sonny | kspath, skrewz: I have LVM |
| 02:34.19 | kspath | Sonny: if you had critical data and/or settings you needed to backup that data before a dist-upgrade just in case |
| 02:34.25 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: there really should be a reason |
| 02:34.32 | vicarious | and can I do a net instal using a kpp dialup connection. I don't care how long it takes. I have 2 days lol ;) |
| 02:34.37 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: if you /etc/init.d/networking restart .. AFTER the box is up . .what happens ? |
| 02:34.39 | rredd4 | ootput: u know how to use colinux? |
| 02:34.44 | skrewz | Sonny: Could you elaborate ond that error? |
| 02:34.52 | vicarious | saying goodbye to mandrake 0) |
| 02:34.54 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: is there a way to sort out the log to find what we're looking for? |
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| 02:35.23 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: yeah .. an error :) |
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| 02:35.46 | phed | whoever needs crazy music, could take a listen here: http://bk237.no-ip.org:8000/listen.pls |
| 02:35.56 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: <rolls eyes> I figured, but how should I look for it? |
| 02:35.56 | phed | expect amiga + mashups + cool music |
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| 02:36.02 | Sonny | I'll see what I do,,,, thanks anyway |
| 02:36.13 | shadows | vicarious: :) |
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| 02:36.26 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: with those eyes you just rolled :) |
| 02:36.57 | abrotman | dmesg | less |
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| 02:37.52 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: I just tried the restart line and it spits me back something like it can't find that directory |
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| 02:38.14 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 02:38.26 | vicarious | anyone had experience making install floppies? |
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| 02:38.32 | abrotman | use dd |
| 02:38.37 | abrotman | or use rawrite from windows |
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| 02:39.06 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: ok, I tried it, and it still didden't like to ping. |
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| 02:39.14 | abrotman | Wyzard|TP: did you buy a new TP ? |
| 02:39.21 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: still no IP ? |
| 02:39.22 | Thanatermesis | i have just launched a transaprent terminal on my desktop running "tail -f | dmesg"... what i can be posible to launch more "verbose" than this for look the kernel messages ? (similar to /etc/syslog.conf ?) |
| 02:39.30 | rredd4 | how can I and what info do i need to set up dial up in sarge? |
| 02:39.33 | Jeeves_Moss | abortman: nope. |
| 02:39.35 | Wyzard|TP | abrotman: About a month ago, yes |
| 02:39.47 | abrotman | Wyzard|TP: a Lenovo one irght? |
| 02:39.57 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: and no messages in the logs ? |
| 02:39.57 | Wyzard|TP | abrotman: right... a Z60m |
| 02:40.05 | abrotman | Wyzard|TP: any issues? |
| 02:40.05 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: what I don't get is my DHCP server assigns the same MAC the corect address, and the interfaces file STILL dosen't like it. and no msg in the logs. |
| 02:40.40 | Sharcho | How to shut down cleanly the X-windows from the command line? |
| 02:40.46 | Wyzard|TP | abrotman: The built-in SD card reader doesn't work because there are no specs with which to write a driver, but that's about it |
| 02:40.51 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: you're not setup for DHCP |
| 02:40.52 | mhall | What is the upside to the Debian Way (TM) of releasing the release for all arches at once? Why not let each arch decide when it wants to convert HEAD to a usable release? |
| 02:41.08 | abrotman | ask the RM |
| 02:41.17 | abrotman | Wyzard|TP: but still a TP ? |
| 02:41.25 | Jeeves_Moss | arbotman: I know, I'm just saying that if it was trying to obtain an IP for what ever reason, then it would get the same IP as in the interfaces file. |
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| 02:41.31 | Wyzard|TP | abrotman: I noticed last week that the processor supports NX, did some research, and found that all it takes to enable it in a recent kernel is to turn on PAE (that's the 64GB memory option) |
| 02:41.33 | abrotman | that's a new one |
| 02:41.37 | Wyzard|TP | abrotman: Still a TP, yes |
| 02:41.38 | skrewz | Sharcho: If you want to kill X (the server), `killall X` or the like. |
| 02:42.07 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: I'm thinking a fresh install is going to be the only option |
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| 02:42.16 | abrotman | Jeeves_Moss: you're trying to get a DHCP address ? |
| 02:42.39 | mushrooomprince | hello #debian |
| 02:43.00 | Sharcho | skrewz, that's not a clean shutdown. |
| 02:43.03 | Jeeves_Moss | abrotman: no, no DHCP address. I'm just saying IF this thing is ignoring the interfaces file, and for what ever reason its looking for a DHCP, it would get the same IP as the interfaces file. |
| 02:43.05 | Wyzard|TP | abrotman: One caveat, the Z60m is all-SATA, and kernels prior to 2.6.15 lack support for some important things (like DMA) on SATA |
| 02:43.28 | skrewz | Sharcho: Then elaborate -- what is it, that you mean by ``clean''? |
| 02:43.39 | abrotman | Wyzard: yeah .. it's not for me .. but you're the only one i know who has bought one recently |
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| 02:43.54 | mhall | Wyzard|TP: < 2.6.15 on SATA lacks DMA?!? no way |
| 02:44.09 | mhall | Wyzard|TP: i thought 2.6.12 was workable |
| 02:44.27 | vicarious | do I put the net drivers on the root image or boot image floppy for net install? |
| 02:44.42 | vicarious | I am guessing the boot |
| 02:44.45 | Wyzard|TP | mhall: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_SATA_and_Linux |
| 02:44.45 | vicarious | no? |
| 02:45.02 | Wyzard|TP | mhall: It sounds like that particular problem might be specific to the ThinkPad UltraBay |
| 02:45.31 | mhall | Wyzard|TP: *whew* i was real confused |
| 02:45.44 | Wyzard|TP | mhall: but acording to that page, 2.6.15 and earlier also don't support SMART or power management on SATA |
| 02:45.46 | mushrooomprince | i wont lie, I'm lurking :P |
| 02:45.54 | abrotman | fine .. just luk |
| 02:45.54 | mhall | Wyzard|TP: hmm |
| 02:45.56 | abrotman | lurk |
| 02:45.59 | mhall | mushrooomprince: you don't say |
| 02:46.11 | mhall | mushrooomprince: except, you did |
| 02:46.17 | Wyzard|TP | mhall: I've never run a kernel older than 2.6.15 on this laptop, though, so I can't compare |
| 02:46.33 | mhall | mushrooomprince: there's *got* to be something existential about that *somewhere* |
| 02:46.38 | mushrooomprince | i tried to make humor out of it, cut me some slack I've been working all day ;? |
| 02:46.42 | Wyzard|TP | mhall: (well, unless you count 2.6.15-rc5, which I ran for a few weeks before 2.6.15 was actually released...) |
| 02:47.55 | vicarious | Its kind of a misnomer for you to announcing your lurking the very second it becomes no longer true. |
| 02:47.59 | abrotman | and noone else in here has worked at all |
| 02:48.13 | mushrooomprince | mhall, how about i got my wisdom teeth cut out and its been the worst thing that has ever been medically performed on me. |
| 02:48.34 | vicarious | its nice to have come across irony before the end of the day |
| 02:48.39 | Wyzard|TP | That's not good to hear... I need to get that done too |
| 02:49.00 | mushrooomprince | if they tell you they don't want to put you to sleep, don't go back to that office ever again. |
| 02:49.13 | Wyzard|TP | hehe |
| 02:49.27 | abrotman | they should just remove your appendix and your wisdom teeth when you turn 13 |
| 02:49.44 | mhall | mushrooomprince: :-( |
| 02:50.03 | mhall | mushrooomprince: what was the sound like? i didn't think i could handle the noise |
| 02:50.06 | mushrooomprince | if they put you to sleep, the surgery will be the easiest part about the whole thing. worst pain will be the stick of the needle. afterwards though you spend a few weeks of your life with your nerves in shit in your jaw pretty much going ape shit. |
| 02:50.13 | wireddd | abrotman, yeah I agree |
| 02:50.27 | mushrooomprince | mhall, I was under medically induced sleep. :P |
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| 02:50.47 | mhall | mushrooomprince: oh i thought you meant that they didn't let you and you warned us not to do it that way |
| 02:51.27 | mushrooomprince | abrotman, it would be unwise to remove undeveloped wisdom teeth out of 13 year olds because the deeper the tooth is because of the nature of the surgery the more horrific the recovery is. I got out fairly easy because most of my teeth were still up. |
| 02:51.48 | abrotman | mine are all up .. but maybe should be pulled anyways |
| 02:52.01 | abrotman | i'm not a dentist .. i don't even play one on tv |
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| 02:52.29 | mushrooomprince | I'm not a lot of things but I love to strike conversations with skilled people. |
| 02:52.37 | mgoetze | mushrooomprince: my girlfriend is getting hers cut out on monday :( |
| 02:52.47 | mushrooomprince | ahh be nice to your girl :p |
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| 02:52.54 | mgoetze | mushrooomprince: so please tell me it's not thaaat bad |
| 02:52.54 | abrotman | so much for lurking |
| 02:53.17 | mushrooomprince | AHh its not as bad as I make it sound I'm exaggerating "some" but it -can- be horrific. |
| 02:53.27 | abrotman | codine! |
| 02:53.37 | peterS | codeine, even |
| 02:53.47 | vicarious | i wrote the boot image to the floppy using dd if=filename of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync , do I do the same for root image and net drivers? |
| 02:53.47 | mushrooomprince | And the pain for "me" in my case is fairly bad. Its not just some regular trip to the dentist. |
| 02:54.18 | peterS | vicarious: don't bother with that complicated dd command, just use 'cp filename /dev/fd0' |
| 02:54.30 | peterS | vicarious: each image you download can be copied to a floppy that way |
| 02:54.42 | mhall | peterS: lol i didn't know fd0 would work |
| 02:54.46 | mhall | peterS: *cp* damnit |
| 02:54.50 | mushrooomprince | my biggest advice for your girlfriend, is around noon the day before the surgery to go out and eat your favorite food. Because you wont be able to eat a lot of stuff for at least 4 or 5 days after the surgery. |
| 02:54.52 | vicarious | I already used the command for boot image, should I redo? |
| 02:55.00 | peterS | mhall: yep. cp doesn't delete the destination first, like mv does, so it works fine |
| 02:55.11 | mhall | peterS: haha |
| 02:55.28 | mgoetze | mushrooomprince: yeah her elder brother had them cut out recently too, now he hates baby food... |
| 02:55.30 | peterS | vicarious: no, dd and cp both work |
| 02:55.44 | mhall | mgoetze: shouldn't he hate baby food anyway |
| 02:55.59 | mgoetze | mhall: no need to hate something if you don't have to eat it, now is there? |
| 02:56.18 | peterS | mgoetze: I probably hate fish food, but I don't have to eat it |
| 02:56.47 | vicarious | just trying to make sure, so I am not forced to reinstall Mandrake at 2 am lol;) |
| 02:56.52 | peterS | anyway, it's all about the applesauce |
| 02:56.58 | mgoetze | ok, well, probably he's hated it for a long time, but just now realized it, since the last time he ate baby food he was, well, you know |
| 02:56.59 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: but you're a machine! |
| 02:57.04 | peterS | if you get stuff done to your jaw and have to eat puree, go for applesauce |
| 02:57.10 | peterS | I don't know if I'd ever get tired of that |
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| 02:57.22 | mushrooomprince | mgoatze, what os are you in right now ? |
| 02:57.33 | mgoetze | mushrooomprince: mac os x |
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| 02:57.45 | Agraj | is there any way for a process to stop itself besides raise (SIGTSTP) or the like? |
| 02:57.50 | liable | can i remove the exif info in apache gallery and have it so it just shows comments? |
| 02:58.04 | mgoetze | mushrooomprince: would you like me to log on to this channel from a dozen different debian boxes just to show i can? ;) |
| 02:58.05 | peterS | Agraj: well, kill with SIGSTOP is the usual way |
| 02:58.06 | dondelelcaro | Agraj: eh? it can just call sleep() |
| 02:58.17 | dondelelcaro | unless you want it to do something else funky |
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| 02:58.21 | peterS | Agraj: yeah, or just sleep, as dondelelcaro says |
| 02:58.51 | Arron | anyone know how i an compile a 2.4 kern with gcc4, or set mkpkg to use gcc3.3? |
| 02:58.57 | liable | i tried removing the values in httpd.conf, but apache complains.. |
| 02:59.00 | mgoetze | dondelelcaro: the difference is probably whether you can wait peacefully for them to pop out and then pull them like normal teeth, or have to have them cut out earlier |
| 02:59.06 | Agraj | dondelelcaro: well what I want to do is sync everything then stop when I get SIGTSTP from the shell (job control) |
| 02:59.37 | dondelelcaro | Arron: see the MAKEFLAGS env variable |
| 02:59.48 | dondelelcaro | mgoetze: I had them cut out... they were impacted |
| 03:00.12 | mgoetze | Arron: export CC=... |
| 03:00.16 | Arron | dondelelcaro: which fil would i fint that? |
| 03:00.28 | dondelelcaro | Arron: MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.3 HOSTCC=gcc-3.3" |
| 03:00.29 | Arron | ahh ok |
| 03:00.33 | mushrooomprince | mgoatze, as much as that would impress me it would only make me envy you. I'm a pretty self taught person but I've found a lot of problems getting a working debian install and its really frustrating me. I would be tremendously appreciate maybe some answers to some of my questions since your such a guru and all :/ |
| 03:00.36 | Arron | thanks |
| 03:00.38 | Agraj | dondelelcar: but if I install a handler on SIGTSTP, the handler happens instead of the default backgrounding action, so then I have to uninstall the handler and reraise the signal, which seems terribly messy |
| 03:00.41 | dondelelcaro | Arron: it has an example in the very first 5 paragraphs of the make-kpkg manpage |
| 03:00.44 | peterS | dondelelcaro: not that HOSTCC should matter there |
| 03:00.53 | Arron | thanks |
| 03:00.59 | dondelelcaro | peterS: hey, it's the kernel Makefile. It's not exactly sane |
| 03:01.10 | mhall | mgoetze: your nick is perilously few letters away from goatse |
| 03:01.21 | peterS | dondelelcaro: but HOSTCC is for building userspace stuff surrounding the kernel. that's rarely sensitive to gcc version |
| 03:01.23 | mgoetze | mhall: yes, well, blame my parents |
| 03:01.26 | liable | nm, fixed.. |
| 03:01.44 | abrotman | mgoetze: they're behind goatse ? |
| 03:01.48 | tyranix | haha |
| 03:02.00 | peterS | they live in .cx? |
| 03:02.07 | mgoetze | mushrooomprince: well, i can't answer any questions you haven't asked, obviously ;) |
| 03:02.13 | dondelelcaro | peterS: hopefully not, but if you're going to set one, you may as well set them both |
| 03:02.24 | mgoetze | abrotman: nope, but they didn't marry, so that's why my surname is goetze, not hinners |
| 03:02.32 | Agraj | and if I do that am I gauranteed that when the process is restarted with SIGCONT that I start out in my SIGCONT handler, or might I start out in the handler or default action of some other queued signal? |
| 03:02.33 | abrotman | doh! |
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| 03:03.08 | peterS | dondelelcaro: I s'pose you could, but the kernel itself has an *excuse* to be compiler-sensitive. it does all kinds of crazy stuff. the userspace used to *build* the kernel is very boring, so it has no such excuse |
| 03:03.08 | nimmer | mgoetze: you re german? |
| 03:03.15 | tatoo | my debconf doesn't work...how can i fix it? |
| 03:03.25 | mgoetze | abrotman: well it's a pretty normal surname actually, only people on irc get these weird ideas... |
| 03:03.28 | mgoetze | nimmer: yup |
| 03:03.34 | nimmer | hehe |
| 03:03.36 | Daveman | Hi peterS :) |
| 03:03.42 | dondelelcaro | peterS: right, but that doesn't stop it from not being ANSI C whatever version we're at now incompatible... |
| 03:03.53 | dondelelcaro | s/not// |
| 03:04.00 | abrotman | mgoetze: not me! |
| 03:04.07 | mushrooomprince | mgoatze, I'm on a net work with two machines. One amd windows box and one os 10.4 ppc macintosh ( on wireless) both behind a apple router. My problem during an installation of ( remembering what i can as best i can ) debian sarge was during configuring apt. I could not get it to connect to any kind of apt http or ftp server of any kind and without apt on debian you are kind of weak. |
| 03:04.31 | abrotman | apple sells a router? |
| 03:04.34 | mhall | mgoetze: haha |
| 03:04.51 | mhall | mgoetze: did anybody else crack the joke yet |
| 03:04.52 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: well, all of their machines can be one; but yes... the airport hub thingie is one |
| 03:04.56 | nvz | abrotman: the apple air traffic controller |
| 03:05.08 | abrotman | nvz: dn't you ever go to work? |
| 03:05.11 | mgoetze | mushrooomprince: i'll assume you were trying to install it on the amd box? |
| 03:05.15 | mushrooomprince | mgoatze, do you think that it is most likely i just configured my network settings wrong ? |
| 03:05.15 | abrotman | yeah . i meant a hardware apple router |
| 03:05.30 | nvz | abrotman: yeah. just not an hour and a half early |
| 03:05.31 | mgoetze | mhall: yes, #debian-devel ist years ahead of you |
| 03:05.31 | mushrooomprince | mgoatze, yes I try to run a dual boot between windows and nix on my amd box |
| 03:05.31 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: all hardware routers run software... |
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| 03:05.48 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i'm aware of that .. darn it .. you know what i mean! |
| 03:05.49 | mhall | mgoetze: damn |
| 03:05.52 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: ;-) |
| 03:06.07 | nvz | abrotman: 'they' are probably going to try and get me to stay late tomorrow morning.. its not likely to happen |
| 03:06.08 | wuming | is there any program that can record ip <=> domain name to /etc/hosts? |
| 03:06.25 | abrotman | nvz:do you get paid more ? |
| 03:06.25 | dondelelcaro | wuming: sounds like you want dnsmasq or something |
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| 03:06.49 | mgoetze | mhall: the problem with taking a year or two off from irc is... people forget they already mentioned it and feel the urge to say it again... |
| 03:06.58 | wuming | dondelelcaro: I have some DNS problems because I have two routers in my localnetwork |
| 03:07.33 | mgoetze | mushrooomprince: doesn't the apple airport thingy just hand out ip addresses by dhcp? |
| 03:07.47 | nvz | abrotman: yeah, but I have been in a car accident recently.. and I am not feeling the greatest.. I need a damn xray and all my bones snapped back into place. I dont feel like working 8hrs much less 12 |
| 03:07.48 | e-doll | how do i set my parallel printer to /dev/lp0\ |
| 03:07.48 | nimmer | guess so |
| 03:08.19 | abrotman | nvz: weren't you in that two weeks ago ? |
| 03:08.27 | nvz | abrotman: I asked my supervisor 4 times who "they" was anyhow and he wouldnt answer me.. so I dont do things for "they" |
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| 03:08.44 | mhall | mgoetze: yeah sorry did not realize it was an old tired used up joke for you |
| 03:08.49 | nvz | abrotman: yeah well the shit still hurts// 2 weeks of working doesnt make it better |
| 03:08.56 | mhall | mgoetze: should have known it would have been said by now i guess |
| 03:09.03 | mushrooomprince | mgoetze, i'm pretty sure it does |
| 03:09.03 | abrotman | nvz: go visit my mom tonight :) |
| 03:09.12 | karsten | e-doll: I'd recommend CUPS, though lprng may also work for simple setups. |
| 03:09.13 | mhall | abrotman: too late, i have dibs |
| 03:09.18 | karsten | e-doll: cupsys. |
| 03:09.19 | abrotman | mhall: on my mom ? |
| 03:09.20 | mgoetze | mhall: there's a great monty python sketch involving a guy call mr. smoketoomuch |
| 03:09.24 | dondelelcaro | you may as well make that all of / |
| 03:09.28 | nvz | abrotman: lots of bending over and lifting shit at my job. |
| 03:09.45 | mgoetze | mushrooomprince: i'm having trouble imagining how you could have problems then :) |
| 03:09.54 | abrotman | nvz: you work at the water treatment plan ? |
| 03:09.54 | nvz | abrotman: either that or getting up and down off the ground.. lots of the bins are at floor level.. you really cant avoid it |
| 03:09.59 | mhall | abrotman: yeah ;-) |
| 03:10.03 | nvz | abrotman: heh |
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| 03:10.38 | e-doll | thank you karsten |
| 03:10.56 | dondelelcaro | a 1G /usr with no X is quite plausible |
| 03:11.02 | dondelelcaro | ECHAN |
| 03:11.17 | mushrooomprince | mgoetze, i was hoping that I could just find debian with a different installer as I've pretty much given up trying to get it to work with ncurses. |
| 03:11.53 | mgoetze | mushrooomprince: there are different installers, but i'm the wrong one to ask... i *love* the standard installer :) |
| 03:11.57 | vicarious | how will I get ppp going to resume install, (before I run off with 3 floppies and an UBUNTU live cd to come back crying for help) |
| 03:12.32 | abrotman | are you trying to install ubuntu ? |
| 03:12.57 | nvz | seems to be threatening to |
| 03:12.59 | vicarious | hell no, but if I cant get my install going, I have to get online for help |
| 03:13.09 | mushrooomprince | mgoetze, although I'm afraid to mention it from past experiences, doesn't there exist a official stable debian release with a graphical installer ? |
| 03:13.36 | abrotman | not for sarge |
| 03:14.05 | nimmer | ? |
| 03:14.13 | nimmer | of course |
| 03:14.14 | vicarious | It's a debian install split in two by xen, to run desktop and webserver with graphical content manager |
| 03:14.22 | vicarious | weekend thrills |
| 03:14.34 | nvz | mushrooomprince: what the hell do you need a graphical installer for? not even windows XP home or pro has a graphical installer |
| 03:14.51 | abrotman | parts of them are |
| 03:15.10 | mushrooomprince | nvz, if I can't solve a problem with a certain piece of software why should I waste my time when I can probably find other pieces of software that will accomplish nearly the same thing ? |
| 03:15.11 | nimmer | nvz: ist only kind of graphical |
| 03:15.31 | nvz | nimmer: no more than D-I in the stage 1 installer |
| 03:15.35 | mushrooomprince | i have no problems with a non graphical installers its just if I can't figure something out sooner or later I try something else. |
| 03:15.44 | abrotman | mushrooomprince: you're saying you won't install sarge because it doesn't use a mouse to install? |
| 03:16.07 | nvz | abrotman: he's saying if he fails to read the install guide, it must be the installer's fault he cant use it |
| 03:16.26 | mushrooomprince | nvz, I'd like to point out your extremely assumptive. |
| 03:16.32 | abrotman | you're |
| 03:16.43 | thingfish | surely he can use debian-installer. I mean it doesn't get a whole lot easier. |
| 03:16.57 | mgoetze | in 95% of all cases, just hitting enter repeatedly is enough for a successful d-i install |
| 03:17.08 | nvz | mushrooomprince: where is my extremely assuptive? I've been looking all over for it :P |
| 03:17.22 | abrotman | you assumed pittsburgh was a cool place to live ... |
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| 03:17.28 | thingfish | it's real close to ubuntu's installer, and goodness knows it doesn't take much brains to install ubuntu. |
| 03:17.46 | thingfish | as witness the ubuntu users' questions posed in here. |
| 03:17.54 | abrotman | thingfish: have you seen some of the questions in here? |
| 03:18.04 | thingfish | abrotman: my point exactly. |
| 03:18.09 | mushrooomprince | nvz, your right. I was just lying I never read the documentation on software before I use it. Thats why I'm here to plague irc channels with all my questions that somewhere on the internet have already been answered. |
| 03:18.14 | nvz | abrotman: 34degF |
| 03:18.27 | abrotman | mushrooomprince: you're |
| 03:18.49 | thingfish | oh wait, maybe I misunderstood you abrotman. yes, I know, it's not limited to ubuntu users alone. |
| 03:18.57 | abrotman | thingfish: yay! |
| 03:19.09 | abrotman | nvz: my mom is really there tonight |
| 03:19.13 | vicarious | who cares if it keeps you entertained while it installs, use a net install at 56k and avoid telemarketers for the entire weekend, come on we'll do it together, got a live cd in case you need "tech support", helping each other, thats what debian is all about, I'm ditching the "dumb distros" myself, I want the computer I always wanted, not one Mandrake approved for me for 18 months at $60. What do you say. |
| 03:19.14 | vicarious | ? |
| 03:19.29 | nvz | abrotman: I know she lives across the street |
| 03:19.36 | abrotman | vicarious: if only all installers had Tetris like Caldera did |
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| 03:19.47 | vicarious | I could have got winME for 30 |
| 03:20.03 | thingfish | ick |
| 03:20.16 | vicarious | I am unfamiliar |
| 03:20.20 | mgoetze | abrotman: hey, aptitude has minesweeper at least |
| 03:20.33 | abrotman | vicarious: with caldera? |
| 03:20.43 | vicarious | no, just the installer |
| 03:20.45 | nvz | mgoetze: has everything including the kitchensync |
| 03:20.52 | mushrooomprince | mgoetze, I don't want to try a graphical installer " specifically" I just assume that a graphical installer would configure dhcp correctly which I can't seem to do. Actually I don't know if I haven't got dhcp configured incorrectly. All I know is that debian can't find any apt servers and doesn't get anything when I ping for google and I don't know if its a network problem, a hardware problem, or a lot of things. So I just want |
| 03:21.04 | abrotman | vicarious: it used to have tetris you could play while packages installed |
| 03:21.14 | vicarious | oh, I misunderstood |
| 03:21.35 | vicarious | hell, couldn't we get pac man for debinstall/ |
| 03:21.45 | abrotman | mgoetze: i'd have ot find things to install just to play minesweeper |
| 03:21.52 | mgoetze | mushrooomprince: so, in d-i, after it's found your network card, hit ctrl-alt-f2, hit enter to start up the shell in that console, run "dhclient" and let us know what it says |
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| 03:21.56 | thingfish | tsk - the install doesn't last long enough to get in a good game. |
| 03:22.02 | peterS | vicarious: heh. the hooks are there to add games to the installer. just have to write one |
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| 03:22.09 | abrotman | that was a retarded error from gnome |
| 03:22.15 | nvz | vicarious: when namco releases it under dfsg lisc |
| 03:22.18 | mgoetze | abrotman: hm let's see... ncftp? |
| 03:22.28 | abrotman | mgoetze: no . Mines |
| 03:22.49 | jjb123 | Hi, I have a problem. I just downloaded Debian 3.1 r1 with bittorrent, yet I can't a single iso file in the whole thing, does anyone know how to do this? |
| 03:22.51 | mgoetze | abrotman: yeah i mean, i'm trying to think of good stuff you might not yet have installed, so that you can play minesweeper |
| 03:22.54 | abrotman | Could not load images |
| 03:22.57 | abrotman | Required images have been found, but refused to load. |
| 03:22.57 | abrotman | Please check your installation of gnome-games and its dependencies. |
| 03:22.57 | vicarious | I just found out how to copy a bottable iso to a floppy this evening, not ready to dev installer plugins quite yet, but I do have a LInux dream |
| 03:23.29 | vicarious | bootable, can't script if you can't type lol |
| 03:23.35 | abrotman | mgoetze: maybe we should tell #gentoo about this .. gaming while things install :) |
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| 03:24.24 | mgoetze | abrotman: yeah they obviously never thought about it since they don't have any cpu resources available while installing ;) |
| 03:24.46 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:24.58 | WildPenguin | abrotman, It appears the problem goes deeper - sudo is not preserving the environment it was invoked from, but creating another environment altogether. Any ideas? |
| 03:25.07 | abrotman | WildPenguin: still .. holy man :) |
| 03:25.16 | peterS | you know, any modern computer could play doom with a hand tied behind its back. that's what debian-installer really needs |
| 03:25.19 | vicarious | I take offence to that (PII 350, 128M, 4GiB) ;( |
| 03:25.25 | abrotman | WildPenguin: nope . not that i can think of |
| 03:25.26 | peterS | it would only add about 5 MB to the netinst CD.... |
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| 03:26.39 | mushrooomprince | mgoatze, I'm definitely going to try that. -thanks- |
| 03:27.00 | abrotman | peterS: can we entrust you with this duty? |
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| 03:27.15 | peterS | abrotman: well ... no |
| 03:27.26 | abrotman | ok .. gnome-games has some really *stupid* bugs filed against it |
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| 03:28.10 | Gnea | abrotman: they're not valid" |
| 03:28.10 | Snadder | !gento |
| 03:28.14 | Snadder | !gentoo? |
| 03:28.15 | dpkg | somebody said gentoo was a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 03:28.22 | abrotman | !dbugs 254484 |
| 03:28.24 | dpkg | DONE:#254484:W[gnome-games] Reproduce MS Solitare; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:48:04 UTC |
| 03:28.27 | abrotman | Gnea: they are .. just like that |
| 03:28.42 | stew | woop |
| 03:28.51 | Gnea | abrotman: sorry, s/"/?/g |
| 03:28.56 | Snadder | where's all the reasons to not using gentoo. but debian instead? |
| 03:29.14 | Gnea | !start an os war |
| 03:29.14 | dpkg | Unix is better than Debian! Amiga Rocks! |
| 03:29.24 | abrotman | Gnea: does that appear valid ? |
| 03:29.49 | mushrooomprince | snadder, I've used gentoo before. Its very well thought out but the whole compiling packages thing is only entertaining for a little while. |
| 03:30.05 | nvz | oh well looks like I am going to talk to the chief by myself. my friends are on the sahside getting drunk |
| 03:30.23 | stew | !yinzersmite nvz |
| 03:30.28 | vicarious | for the free software adherence |
| 03:30.42 | vicarious | is debian truly free |
| 03:30.43 | vicarious | ? |
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| 03:31.01 | vicarious | gentoo I mean. |
| 03:31.05 | stew | vicarious: it tries harder than any other distro, /msg dpkg sc ; /msg dpkg dfsg |
| 03:31.18 | mgoetze | vicarious: if you install only main, then yes |
| 03:31.19 | Snadder | mushrooomprince, does gentoo support binary packages too.. so I dont need to compile it for several hours? |
| 03:31.38 | mgoetze | vicarious: debian also comes with a "contrib" and "non-free" section |
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| 03:31.49 | Wyzard|TP | Snadder: It does, but that's not the typical way of using it |
| 03:31.49 | peterS | Snadder: last I heard, they had *some* support for that, but people really looked down their noses at you if you actually used them (: |
| 03:31.52 | keyhack | I downloaded the latest kernel source from kernel.org (2.6.15.1), and I'm trying to install LIRC on Debian. Has anyone gotten this to work? I installed lirc, and then I installed lirc-modules-source (and I tried following the instructions but it cannot find /usr/src/linux/build, although I compiled my kernel (the build directory still isnt there)) |
| 03:31.58 | mushrooomprince | snadder, I'm sure you can get some packages precompiled. |
| 03:32.14 | Wyzard|TP | Snadder: And you use the flexibility of USE flags (which is one of the main benefits of using Gentoo in the first place) |
| 03:32.34 | mushrooomprince | but gentoo's whole big selling buzz line is that it custom compiles packages for your hardware. and so once you aren't compiling packages why wouldn't you just use debian ? |
| 03:32.45 | keyhack | I find it hard to believe that it's this difficult to get LIRC up and running on a Debian machine |
| 03:32.47 | mgoetze | keyhack: 'cd /usr/src/linux; apt-get install kernel-package; make-kpkg kernel_image' |
| 03:32.59 | keyhack | mgoetze: Let me try that |
| 03:33.01 | Wyzard|TP | Snadder: so I'd say, if you want to compile things from source and customize which optional features get used, go with Gentoo, but if you want to save the compilation time and use precompiled packages, use something else, such as Debian |
| 03:33.11 | abrotman | keyhack: no way .. you still didn't get it ? |
| 03:33.22 | gozz | how can i find my video card bus identifier? i tried XFree86 -scanpci but got nothing do i use -scanagp? |
| 03:33.38 | Nopalin | hello, how i can add sata suport for my debian distribution? |
| 03:33.38 | Wyzard|TP | gozz: Run lspci and look at the output |
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| 03:33.39 | nvz | gozz: do you have a mac or more than one video card? |
| 03:33.51 | Wyzard|TP | gozz: But you usually don't need to specify a busID unless you have more than one video card |
| 03:34.00 | gozz | a ati dual in pc |
| 03:34.07 | peterS | Wyzard|TP: you mean lspci -X |
| 03:34.19 | Wyzard|TP | gozz: You can omit the busID, then |
| 03:34.32 | gozz | ok |
| 03:34.36 | Wyzard|TP | gozz: X will scan the PCI bus and since it only finds one video card, it's sort of implied that that's the card to use |
| 03:34.41 | keyhack | mgoetze: There is no /usr/src/linux after I install kernel-package |
| 03:34.59 | keyhack | abrotman: Yeah, something like that. I gave up on the machine a while back, now trying to revisit it |
| 03:35.00 | aaron | Hi! Relative noob here is trying to install a chessboard: xboard specifically. After extraction, I'm not sure whether I have installed anything or not. Can someone assist? I'll need specific commands to figure out what I've done. . . |
| 03:35.01 | abrotman | i can't believe i'm filing a bug on gnomine |
| 03:35.13 | mgoetze | keyhack: uh, well, where did you unpack the kernel source? |
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| 03:35.34 | nvz | abrotman: yeah? I was ready to file a bug on ifone/atari/hasbro's mobile clue game.. heh |
| 03:35.38 | mgoetze | aaron: uh, extraction? you're supposed to install it by running 'apt-get install xboard' |
| 03:35.40 | Daveman | sup abrotman? |
| 03:35.50 | abrotman | Daveman: i found a warm snickers in my pants |
| 03:35.57 | Daveman | ewwwwww |
| 03:35.58 | nvz | eww |
| 03:35.59 | Daveman | oh wait |
| 03:36.02 | Daveman | EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! |
| 03:36.06 | nvz | are you sure it was a snickers? |
| 03:36.08 | nvz | heh |
| 03:36.16 | Daveman | hahaha, that's just what I realized :P |
| 03:36.18 | keyhack | mgoetze: Ah, ok, got it. Yeah, it's running now |
| 03:36.26 | vicarious | does the deb installer allow you to utilize a ppp dial up connection by default, or do I have to send it anything special? |
| 03:36.36 | abrotman | depends on the modem |
| 03:36.41 | keyhack | mgoetze: Now I'll have to figure out how to make-kpkg for LIRC |
| 03:36.45 | Daveman | mmm... SLIP |
| 03:37.01 | nvz | just because it appeared to be chocolate, caramel and peanuts doesnt mean its a snickers.. could mean you need to chew more |
| 03:37.06 | aaron | mgoetze: okay I'll try that. I prefer the command line to stupid gui's and that's why I'm learning Linux. |
| 03:37.32 | mgoetze | keyhack: well, i think it's supposed to automagically include the lirc-modules... if it doesn't, check the man page |
| 03:38.20 | mushrooomprince | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.39 | keyhack | mgoetze: Only one way to find out, now I just need to find out how to friggin set up my USB IR |
| 03:38.46 | wuming | does Xorg in Testing support true transparency? |
| 03:38.59 | aaron | mgoetze: okay it looks like that worked. Now where do I find the program!?!? It didn't file under aps->games . . |
| 03:39.09 | nvz | wuming: try it and see |
| 03:39.13 | mgoetze | keyhack: hm, are we thinking of the same one way, though? |
| 03:39.26 | gozz | the only reason i need to reconfig x is because one monitor is older and doesnt have that high of resolution but every time i login to x my resolution always goes to the highest res of the card and the older monitor goes black will reconfig x solve my problem? |
| 03:39.35 | nvz | wuming: you can see that xfree86 doesnt, just by moving windows across one another and seeing the redraw shadow |
| 03:39.37 | vicarious | simple 56k USRRob |
| 03:39.40 | Wyzard|TP | wuming: It supports the Composite extension, though you have to enable it manually |
| 03:39.42 | vicarious | external |
| 03:39.42 | mgoetze | aaron: well, just run xboard in a terminal emulator? |
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| 03:39.52 | aaron | ok |
| 03:40.02 | peterS | gozz: yeah, if you tell it what the specs of your older monitor are |
| 03:40.09 | Wyzard|TP | wuming: It's not a mature feature though -- and in particular, it doesn't work properly in conjunction with OpenGL or XV-accelerated video |
| 03:40.25 | keyhack | mgoetze: I'm rebooting into the new kernel, after that, I believe i have to edit lirc.conf to configure hardware? |
| 03:40.29 | adlpaf | how can I install java??? I downloaded it from java.sun.com |
| 03:40.38 | gozz | i dont know is there a way to find out? |
| 03:40.42 | Wyzard|TP | adlpaf: apt-get install java-package; man make-jpkg |
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| 03:40.56 | mgoetze | keyhack: well, personally, i would run dpkg --contents on the resulting .deb to see whether it included the modules |
| 03:41.04 | abrotman | !tell adlpaf about install java |
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| 03:41.18 | mgoetze | keyhack: i know nothing specifically about lirc, though |
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| 03:41.22 | keyhack | mgoetze: Yep, knew it. Can't get into the kernel, missing VFS stuff. Thats why I had wanted to avoid using make-kpkg though |
| 03:41.33 | aaron | xboard: Failed to start first chess program gnuchessx on localhost: gnuchessx: No such file or directory xboard: Error writing to first chess program: Broken pipe <-- does this mean I need to install gnuchessx? |
| 03:41.40 | gozz | cant i run 2 different resolutions? |
| 03:41.52 | mikeo11 | hi trying to install debian 3.1r1 and when its auto detecting the devices it freezes up... |
| 03:41.52 | mgoetze | keyhack: well, back to the kernel source tree and 'make menuconfig' |
| 03:42.09 | wuming | nvz, Wyzard|TP, I'm running xorg |
| 03:42.16 | mikeo11 | says "loading module 'ide-disk' for 'Linux ATA DISK'.... |
| 03:42.18 | mgoetze | keyhack: however, i've been assuming that you generally do know how to configure a kernel, etc. - if not you shouldn't be compiling your own |
| 03:42.20 | mikeo11 | and doesnt get past that |
| 03:42.26 | adlpaf | Wyzard|TP, it says that It couldn't be found!!! |
| 03:42.29 | keyhack | mgoetze: Ah, ok. I wasn't sure if the make-kpkg follow the config, or if it did a plain default "Debian" kernel |
| 03:42.32 | mikeo11 | am i screwed? |
| 03:42.38 | keyhack | mgoetze: I do, I just thought it would do the defaults instead |
| 03:42.53 | mgoetze | keyhack: see man page ;) |
| 03:43.30 | Wyzard|TP | adlpaf: You need to have contrib in your sources.list |
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| 03:44.14 | mikeo11 | anyone know why its locking up? |
| 03:44.21 | mikeo11 | or is it just REALLY slow |
| 03:44.26 | mikeo11 | cause waited like 3 min |
| 03:44.32 | mikeo11 | and didnt hear any cd rom or hd noises |
| 03:44.45 | Wyzard|TP | mikeo11: That sounds like a lockup... loading a module shouldn't take more than a second or two at most; most load instantaneously |
| 03:45.04 | mikeo11 | while it happened 3 times in a row |
| 03:45.04 | adlpaf | Wyzard|TP, Ok!!! Thanks!!! (Y) |
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| 03:45.08 | mikeo11 | right after i boot the cd |
| 03:45.27 | Wyzard|TP | mikeo11: FWIW, I was troubleshooting a system earlier today that would usually (though not always) hang at the point where it would detect the hard drive, and the problem turned out to be a loose cable |
| 03:45.54 | mikeo11 | havnt had any problems with the drive in windows |
| 03:45.58 | mikeo11 | cause this is a dual boot pc |
| 03:46.07 | mikeo11 | so pretty sure its not the calbe |
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| 03:46.25 | Wyzard|TP | mikeo11: Also, the Sarge install CD uses a 2.4 kernel by default, but has 2.6 available too... try typing "linux26" at the CD's boot prompt and see if that works any better |
| 03:46.43 | mikeo11 | ok will try that |
| 03:47.01 | mikeo11 | thought 2.6 was made the default a while ago |
| 03:47.07 | pjv | some isp's have inactivity timeouts, therefore they disconnect me, how do i by pass that? |
| 03:47.07 | mikeo11 | but will try that right now |
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| 03:47.34 | mikeo11 | be back in a bit if it dont work |
| 03:47.39 | vicarious | cron to the rescue man cron |
| 03:47.43 | abrotman | man ppp might help |
| 03:47.50 | Wyzard|TP | mikeo11: It's the preferred version for people to use, but some users (mostly of the big-server-admin variety) don't trust 2.6 as much as 2.4, so 2.4 was made the default for Sarge |
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| 03:48.10 | silverton | where can I find a list of supported lan chipsets? |
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| 03:49.16 | peterS | silverton: dunno, but almost all *are* supported. what kind do you have? |
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| 03:49.39 | silverton | well, I'm looking for a new board, and it's a gigabit lan, the chip set is Vitesse vsc8201RX |
| 03:50.16 | peterS | silverton: hmmm, never heard of that one |
| 03:50.22 | silverton | heh, me neither, rofl |
| 03:50.33 | peterS | silverton: not even pci.ids knows about that one |
| 03:50.41 | vicarious | hope to see you soon rebooting in 3,2,1 |
| 03:50.42 | silverton | o.o |
| 03:50.54 | silverton | wow, hopefully it's a not a winlan ;D |
| 03:51.12 | mushrooomprince | silverton, I've never heard of vitesse. makes me have nightmare thoughts about software support issues. |
| 03:51.25 | silverton | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813130529 |
| 03:51.32 | silverton | that's the board, btw, it's made by MSI |
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| 03:52.35 | mushrooomprince | oh, that doesn't look like it really has a northbridge. I think the new amd chips have intergrated memory controllers or something on the processor. |
| 03:52.53 | silverton | heh, the northbridge is the onboard video! ;) |
| 03:52.57 | mushrooomprince | i see |
| 03:53.30 | peterS | silverton: yeah I see no trace of linux support for that chip |
| 03:53.39 | silverton | =/ damn, I was hoping to dual-boot it |
| 03:53.52 | silverton | ah well, I'll have to try :P |
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| 03:54.14 | silverton | I'll just boot knoppix or something when I get it all together |
| 03:54.33 | Gnea | hrm |
| 03:54.37 | silverton | rofl @ Cons: Linux users beware, don't even think of buying this board. Kernel panics with every flavor of linux under the sun. |
| 03:54.42 | Gnea | silverton: according to msi's website, it's a VITESSE VSC8201RX/ Realtek 8201CL |
| 03:54.43 | MrMiracle | When I use pon - set up to use provider - I get a message saying "Connect script failed" How can I determine where it failed? |
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| 03:54.46 | wireddd | silverton, I am sure that it will get it, its on alot of new motherboards |
| 03:54.52 | peterS | silverton: what do you need for networking? if you don't need anything but casual home lan stuff, any el cheapo 100mbit card will do |
| 03:55.19 | abrotman | or even 10mb :) |
| 03:55.33 | silverton | abrotman, rofl @ you |
| 03:55.33 | wireddd | 10mb is way to slow |
| 03:55.35 | silverton | you're funny! |
| 03:55.35 | Gnea | silverton: try r8169.ko |
| 03:55.42 | abrotman | for what? your 768k DSL ? |
| 03:55.44 | MrMiracle | Actually the message is in /var/log/messages |
| 03:55.47 | silverton | everything I run is installed on a server :P |
| 03:56.12 | silverton | and I have 10mbit cable |
| 03:56.31 | Gnea | oh wait.... VITESSE VSC8201RX only available on K8NGM2-FID |
| 03:56.31 | fhffhqvb | is there any way whatsoever to measure cpu usage by a network card? |
| 03:56.32 | Gnea | Realtek 8201CL only available on K8NGM2-IL, K8NGM2-L |
| 03:56.33 | silverton | just as an fwi, rofl |
| 03:56.40 | Gnea | silverton: and you've got the DVI, right? |
| 03:56.51 | silverton | the board has DVI, yes |
| 03:56.55 | silverton | I don't own the board yet |
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| 03:57.03 | Gnea | then it's a FID, nevermind... |
| 03:57.14 | silverton | that it is |
| 03:57.17 | peterS | the realtek r8169 driver makes no mention of any 8201-like thing |
| 03:57.18 | Gnea | silverton: boot it up and lspci -v and see what Subsystem it has |
| 03:57.27 | silverton | Gnea, I will when I get it! ;) |
| 03:57.38 | Gnea | peterS: that doesn't mean anything |
| 03:58.02 | peterS | Gnea: usually it does |
| 03:58.33 | Gnea | peterS: won't know till he tries/finds out |
| 03:58.45 | silverton | werd, it'll be about a month... I hope |
| 03:58.53 | silverton | I don't make much money... |
| 03:59.02 | silverton | buying the mobo with this paycheck, and hopefully the cpu with next |
| 03:59.19 | silverton | and then I have some ddr2100 that I could boot it with |
| 03:59.59 | mushrooomprince | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:00.19 | Gnea | silverton: oh i thought you already had it |
| 04:00.22 | abrotman | silverton: your whole check ? |
| 04:00.24 | silverton | Gnea, nah :( |
| 04:00.36 | Gnea | bah |
| 04:00.37 | silverton | abrotman, not quite, but damn close... minimum wage/fast food |
| 04:00.48 | silverton | Gnea, doing my research before I buy something :P |
| 04:00.50 | Gnea | ok, i found out |
| 04:00.54 | abrotman | silverton: maybe you sohuld save your money! :) |
| 04:00.54 | Jeeves_Moss | sbrotman: your still here? Did you get your prezetles? |
| 04:01.01 | abrotman | of course not |
| 04:01.03 | Gnea | silverton: http://www.anandtech.com/talkarticle.aspx?frmResourceID=2626&frmWhere=2 <-- your answer is there. |
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| 04:01.04 | silverton | abrotman, for what? to buy it all at once? |
| 04:01.33 | wireddd | silverton, the longer you wait the cheaper it will get ;) |
| 04:01.47 | silverton | wireddd, sometimes the price goes up ;D |
| 04:02.00 | silverton | but you are right... maybe I should just toss the money into my savings account |
| 04:02.04 | abrotman | silverton: maybe |
| 04:02.10 | aaron | got it. |
| 04:02.11 | aaron | thanks |
| 04:02.20 | Gnea | and gas is on the rise again too |
| 04:02.22 | Gnea | fuckers |
| 04:02.29 | abrotman | silverton: maybe if you wait long enough .. you can get it for passover! |
| 04:02.34 | silverton | hell, by the time I have saved enough, dual-cores should be down low enough! |
| 04:02.38 | abrotman | Gnea: no shit .. i noticed that yesterday . .like up a lot |
| 04:02.48 | silverton | Gnea, yeah, I noticed that, I payed 2.19 for gas tonight, I felt raped |
| 04:02.53 | abrotman | Gnea: and not really a peep in the news |
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| 04:03.13 | Gnea | silverton: oh you got it cheap - it's 2.35 here |
| 04:03.26 | abrotman | i paid 2.39 yesterday i think |
| 04:03.43 | Gnea | those rat bastards |
| 04:03.46 | silverton | damn guys |
| 04:03.49 | silverton | getting raped |
| 04:04.00 | Gnea | it's not even 2.50 yet |
| 04:04.01 | silverton | I thought washington had the highest prices too |
| 04:04.06 | abrotman | we should .. like bomb the middle east and take all thier oil .. now .. where can we find someone dumb enough to start that fight ?? |
| 04:04.22 | Gnea | abrotman: shut up and smoke your crack |
| 04:04.36 | abrotman | Gnea: i gave it to your mom .. guess what she gave me? |
| 04:04.37 | mgoetze | you guys should come visit europe, and bring your cars |
| 04:04.47 | wireddd | lol |
| 04:04.50 | abrotman | mgoetze: if i lived in europe . i probably wouldn't have a car |
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| 04:05.18 | mgoetze | abrotman: i live in europe, and i can't even afford a driver's license |
| 04:05.25 | Guerin | owning cars isn't the problem |
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| 04:05.31 | mikeo011 | ahhh |
| 04:05.34 | mikeo011 | debian installer fails again |
| 04:05.39 | Guerin | it's owning fucking enormous card, and having one per adult which is the problem |
| 04:05.41 | Gnea | there's a lot of push for hybrids right now, the research on the hydrogen-base is continuing and democracy is spreading like wildfire in the middle east, so it's already underway |
| 04:05.45 | Guerin | s/card/cars/ |
| 04:05.45 | Wyzard|TP | mikeo011: Still hangs? |
| 04:05.45 | abrotman | mgoetze: but ... it's like 15$ here :) |
| 04:05.48 | mikeo011 | the linux26 boot got me further than the default tho |
| 04:05.49 | mikeo011 | nope |
| 04:05.53 | mikeo011 | got another error... |
| 04:06.04 | wireddd | anyone know what the package for the battery monitor for kde is called? |
| 04:06.08 | mgoetze | abrotman: more like $1500 here (conservative estimate) |
| 04:06.15 | Guerin | wireddd: apt-cache search kde battery |
| 04:06.17 | abrotman | mgoetze: to learn how to drive ? |
| 04:06.18 | mikeo011 | "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources."... |
| 04:06.23 | Guerin | mgoetze: what country? |
| 04:06.32 | mgoetze | Guerin: germany |
| 04:06.35 | Guerin | mgoetze: define some different apt sources. |
| 04:06.47 | Guerin | mikeo011: |
| 04:06.51 | mikeo011 | "The current default kernel package is ' kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386'." |
| 04:06.51 | Guerin | mgoetze: yikes. |
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| 04:06.58 | Wyzard|TP | Guerin: This is during the installer |
| 04:07.01 | mgoetze | abrotman: mandatory driving lessons in order to get your license |
| 04:07.10 | Gnea | Guerin: oh please, texas itself could swallow north and south korea a few times over |
| 04:07.13 | Wyzard|TP | Guerin: The installer shouldn't have difficulty finding a stock kernel... |
| 04:07.21 | mikeo011 | "you may try to continue though this rather strange error is probably fatal |
| 04:07.33 | Guerin | Wyzard|TP: if it's an old installer it could - if it's looking for testing. |
| 04:07.36 | mgoetze | if i actually wanted a license i would probably take a cheap flight to north america, get a license, fly back and shell out $100-$200 for an official translation |
| 04:07.39 | abrotman | mgoetze: you should just come to the states .. we don't even care if your licensed .. or if you have insurance |
| 04:07.46 | mikeo011 | it said that exactly cause i took pictures of the error screens :D |
| 04:07.46 | Guerin | Gnea: small cars go just as far as big cars |
| 04:07.55 | Wyzard|TP | mikeo011: It sounds like apt failed to retrieve package lists... did it take you through the process of selecting apt sources, and did you get any errors during that? |
| 04:08.01 | wuming | debian testing use Xorg right? |
| 04:08.08 | mikeo011 | i dunno its the installer |
| 04:08.10 | abrotman | Guerin: they just take more gass |
| 04:08.11 | Guerin | wuming: yes. |
| 04:08.12 | mikeo011 | my network is blocked |
| 04:08.12 | Gnea | Guerin: "big cars"? |
| 04:08.12 | abrotman | wuming: yes |
| 04:08.22 | mikeo011 | have to connect through a login page |
| 04:08.25 | Guerin | Gnea: anything bigger than, say, 2.5 liltres. |
| 04:08.28 | Wyzard|TP | mikeo011: Guerin has a good point -- if it's an old install CD (i.e. a sarge pre-release snapshot, rather than the final install CD) then it could fail |
| 04:08.32 | wuming | abrotman:is there package for true transparency in testing? |
| 04:08.41 | mikeo011 | its 3.1r1 |
| 04:08.44 | abrotman | wuming: unsure .. i wouldn't notice if it were there |
| 04:08.47 | mikeo011 | downloaded it like 5 hours ago |
| 04:08.49 | mikeo011 | off of a mirror |
| 04:08.51 | Wyzard|TP | mikeo011: Full CD, or netinst? |
| 04:08.54 | mikeo011 | full cd |
| 04:08.59 | Guerin | Gnea: i know that's considered a runabout fit only for short trips to the mall in most of the US, but still... |
| 04:09.18 | mikeo011 | was in my schools computer lab so only took 6 min at like 2.2mb a second |
| 04:09.23 | Guerin | abrotman: small cars use more gas ... right. |
| 04:09.33 | Guerin | so that's the problem - you can't count. |
| 04:09.45 | abrotman | Guerin: wtf .. did i say that ? |
| 04:09.50 | Gnea | Guerin: well, cars buy and sell and wreck all the time here, finding one isn't a problem |
| 04:09.53 | Wyzard|TP | mikeo011: I'm not sure why it'd fail to get a package list from packages that are on the CD itself... |
| 04:09.58 | abrotman | god damn .. how the fuck did he infer that ? |
| 04:10.02 | mikeo011 | hmmmm |
| 04:10.15 | Wyzard|TP | mikeo011: Try this: press Alt-F2 to switch to a prompt, type "apt-get update", and see if you get any error messages from that |
| 04:10.19 | Gnea | Guerin: actually, large cars use more gas |
| 04:10.31 | Guerin | Gnea: no shit! |
| 04:10.31 | mikeo011 | from the default install screen |
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| 04:10.36 | mikeo011 | with all the different options? |
| 04:10.56 | Wyzard|TP | mikeo011: correct... at the point where it complains about not being able to find a kernel |
| 04:11.00 | Guerin | abrotman: sorry, I thought you were replying to a different line than it appears you were. |
| 04:11.02 | mikeo011 | ok |
| 04:11.04 | mikeo011 | anything else? |
| 04:11.09 | mikeo011 | or just see what happens with that |
| 04:11.14 | Wyzard|TP | Just that |
| 04:11.36 | mikeo011 | just took a picture of the directions and trying that now... |
| 04:11.39 | dvm1981 | what i must be install to run 'update-menus' ? |
| 04:11.46 | peterS | dvm1981: menu |
| 04:11.48 | mikeo011 | be back in a bit if it doesnt work or after it installs |
| 04:11.53 | abrotman | or menu-xdg |
| 04:12.04 | dvm1981 | peterS: Great ;-) thx |
| 04:12.18 | mtnman | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.04 | abrotman | !moo |
| 04:16.04 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 04:17.29 | dvm1981 | !shit |
| 04:17.30 | dpkg | i guess shit is fecal matter.. scratch your ass, sniff your finger. Smell that? Shit. |
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| 04:19.17 | dvm1981 | There is no many people active here now |
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| 04:21.27 | Frew | Does anyone know how to unident a whole file? Maybe using emacs? |
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| 04:22.00 | dvm1981 | Frew: there is an #emacs ;-) |
| 04:22.12 | Nopalin | hello, anybody can help me, with install sata drivers? |
| 04:22.28 | Frew | Sweet - Thanks. |
| 04:22.49 | dvm1981 | Frew: Try it, there are not many people here at this moment |
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| 04:24.29 | MrMiracle | When I use pon - set up to use provider - I get a message saying "Connect script failed" How can I determine where it failed? |
| 04:24.32 | MrMiracle | Actually the message is in /var/log/messages |
| 04:24.45 | dvm1981 | !pastebin |
| 04:24.46 | dpkg | pastebin is probably a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 04:25.02 | maalox | Hi there, I'm unable to mount my USB2 hard drive as anyone but root:root. I've tried to change uid and gid options to no avail. Does anyone know what the problem might be? |
| 04:25.58 | dvm1981 | MrMiracle: Have you paste it there > |
| 04:26.17 | MrMiracle | this time...yes |
| 04:26.31 | MrMiracle | last time...no |
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| 04:26.34 | dvm1981 | MrMiracle: And paste the url of it here then |
| 04:26.56 | MrMiracle | I typedit |
| 04:27.12 | aparna | maalox: try something like: mount -t vfat -v -w -o uid=maalox,gid=maalox /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb/ (you may wanna strip out the -t vfat bit) |
| 04:27.15 | MrMiracle | I typed it the first time |
| 04:27.40 | maalox | aparna: I will give it a shot |
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| 04:28.27 | cakoose | I downloaded a new fglrx-kernel-src. Is there a way to use make-kpkg to just recompile that module using the current kernel headers? |
| 04:28.43 | shadows | erg |
| 04:28.49 | shadows | cakoose: use module-assistant ? |
| 04:28.54 | dvm1981 | MrMiracle: no matters, paste the log in pastebin, then paste the url here |
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| 04:30.00 | MrMiracle | I can't paste the log: that is in Linux and I can presently only connect with Windows |
| 04:30.13 | MrMiracle | That is the problem |
| 04:30.29 | cakoose | shadows: module-assistant doesn't seem to be working |
| 04:30.39 | dvm1981 | MrMiracle: hhhmmm, i understand |
| 04:30.56 | dvm1981 | !ext2fs |
| 04:30.56 | dpkg | it has been said that ext2fs for win95 is at http://jnewbigin-pc.it.swin.edu.au/linux.htm |
| 04:31.36 | MrMiracle | I need somehow to run a trace so I can find exactly where the script is failing |
| 04:31.36 | dvm1981 | MrMiracle: look what dpkg say you, the next time i ask dpkg to you in private, |
| 04:32.01 | shadows | cakoose: module-assistant should work |
| 04:32.03 | cakoose | shadows: When I select "BUILD" it doesn't do anything. It looks like it's trying to install the old DEB again. |
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| 04:32.21 | cakoose | shadows: Where does it store that DEB? Maybe I can go in and delete it. |
| 04:32.23 | MrMiracle | fine |
| 04:32.30 | shadows | /usr/src/ |
| 04:32.46 | cakoose | No debs in /usr/src |
| 04:32.50 | Coweater | MrMiracle: if it's a script stick some echos or the like in as checks |
| 04:33.30 | shadows | cakoose: make absolute sure that your /usr/src/linux symlink is set up properly |
| 04:33.57 | MrMiracle | echos might work...It can't be any worse |
| 04:34.15 | cakoose | /usr/src/linux points to the kernel sources in /home/cakoose/build/kernel-2.5.14.5 |
| 04:34.27 | dvm1981 | MrMiracle: look at this http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html |
| 04:34.28 | shadows | o_O |
| 04:34.29 | cakoose | shadows: should it be pointing to the headers instead? |
| 04:34.29 | dabaR | If I would like to check whether my computer is possibly cracked, how would I go about doing that? |
| 04:34.31 | shadows | 2.5.x !? |
| 04:34.36 | shadows | what the heck |
| 04:34.50 | cakoose | shadows: oops sorry typo. 2.6.14.5 |
| 04:34.53 | MrMiracle | ok, dvm |
| 04:34.53 | shadows | oh |
| 04:35.25 | shadows | cakoose: well, to be on-point, fglrx is mostly off topic for #debian; please privmsg me if you want help |
| 04:35.31 | dvm1981 | MrMiracle: Install it on you're M$ then try to access the log, and paste it in pastebin |
| 04:35.59 | cakoose | shadows: ok. I uninstalled/reinstalled module-assistant and things seem to be going along better. |
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| 04:37.13 | dvm1981 | !ext2fs |
| 04:37.13 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ext2fs for win95 is at http://jnewbigin-pc.it.swin.edu.au/linux.htm |
| 04:37.14 | ming | is transet package in testing? |
| 04:37.24 | dvm1981 | are down |
| 04:37.32 | maalox | aparna: thanks, that worked. |
| 04:37.41 | dvm1981 | could someone update dpkg, or add a link to him ? |
| 04:38.02 | ming | !transet |
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| 04:38.13 | aparna | tftp: I get status connected, but can't get any files. iptables -F has been done. I can't tftp get from localhost. I've used: /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot |
| 04:38.34 | aparna | suggestions welcome. |
| 04:38.53 | dvm1981 | ming: ? |
| 04:38.54 | ClayG | anyone here use windows also? |
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| 04:39.10 | dvm1981 | ClayG: when i do a horible dream |
| 04:39.11 | ClayG | I wanna know if there is a windows version of /etc/hosts |
| 04:39.18 | maalox | ClayG: Yes there is |
| 04:39.22 | dvm1981 | ClayG: yep |
| 04:39.28 | ClayG | where? |
| 04:39.31 | maalox | ClayG: It's called hosts.txt but I can't remember where it is |
| 04:39.36 | maalox | ClayG: /windows/system32 |
| 04:39.36 | ClayG | thanks Maakuth_ |
| 04:39.38 | maalox | ClayG: I think |
| 04:39.40 | ClayG | er maalox |
| 04:39.50 | dvm1981 | ClayG: Do a search on the file 'hosts' in the win dir i think |
| 04:40.07 | dvm1981 | yo |
| 04:40.12 | shadows | aparna: some tftpd's don't work like you want them to |
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| 04:40.25 | dvm1981 | ming: What would you ask ? |
| 04:41.22 | aparna | shadows : like default boot dir (-s) option may not even work? |
| 04:41.29 | shadows | yeah |
| 04:41.33 | dvm1981 | ClayG: Find it ? |
| 04:41.44 | shadows | aparna: sometimes the tftpd uses /tftpboot |
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| 04:41.50 | shadows | there is nothing to change it |
| 04:41.55 | ClayG | not yet |
| 04:41.59 | ClayG | searching the whoe computer |
| 04:42.05 | ming | dvm1981:I'm trying to enable true transparency (debian testing) |
| 04:42.08 | aparna | shadows: ta. I checked if it went to /boot, will try /tftpboot now |
| 04:42.16 | ClayG | one second racing online <burnout3 |
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| 04:43.47 | dvm1981 | ming: i don't know how, i have ask to dpkg, but not have the good keyword to search it, it seems |
| 04:44.42 | ming | thx anyway |
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| 04:45.20 | ClayG | didnt find hosts.txt |
| 04:45.26 | ClayG | im gonna search plain host |
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| 04:45.54 | keyhack | when I build a custom kernel with "make-kpkg kernel_image", how do I create my initrd file? |
| 04:46.05 | keyhack | I need the initrd for the bootsplash |
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| 04:46.45 | threat | make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image |
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| 04:47.09 | keyhack | thanks threat |
| 04:47.10 | ShadowZ | where can i find a working MIPS repository? |
| 04:47.10 | threat | keyhack, you would want to look at /etc/mkinitrd/ |
| 04:47.18 | threat | keyhack, in that dir |
| 04:47.26 | keyhack | threat, thats where it puts it? |
| 04:47.32 | threat | keyhack, and read a few man files too |
| 04:47.39 | threat | keyhack, you need to read to find that out |
| 04:47.53 | aparna | er... when tftpd is running from command line as /usr/sbin/in.tftpd should I see the process when I do a ps aux ? |
| 04:47.58 | keyhack | threat: It's not a simple dpkg -i kernel-image... and call it a day? |
| 04:48.06 | dvm1981 | ClayG: it's without the txt extension, if i have a good brain |
| 04:48.15 | ClayG | im searching host |
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| 04:48.52 | threat | keyhack, afraid not, you are encouraged to need the make-kpkg man pages / debian kernel howto pages, as well as man mkinitrd |
| 04:49.06 | dvm1981 | ClayG: if really needs i boot an M$ in a virtual computer, but i not like it |
| 04:49.19 | keyhack | threat: Bah, what the heck? |
| 04:49.25 | threat | keyhack, I mean you can just type in make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image however it may not work as desired ;) |
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| 04:49.45 | dvm1981 | ClayG: Let i know if you find it, and whats it was the name |
| 04:49.47 | threat | keyhack, and you will be wasting alot of time, it will only take a fraction of that time to read the manuals so you know what you are doing :) |
| 04:50.06 | threat | keyhack, its your call |
| 04:50.31 | keyhack | threat: huh, so what exactly am I doing? lol |
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| 04:50.43 | threat | keyhack, read up :) |
| 04:50.45 | konfuzed | ok this is a little off topic but possibly entertaining |
| 04:50.50 | threat | BBL |
| 04:50.52 | threat | beach |
| 04:50.54 | konfuzed | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175308&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=14583871 |
| 04:50.57 | keyhack | threat: I am in that directory |
| 04:51.01 | keyhack | threat: Theres nothing to read |
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| 04:51.13 | threat | keyhack, http://www.debian.org |
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| 04:51.24 | threat | keyhack, in the docs section, under kernel something or other |
| 04:51.26 | GomoX | Hi |
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| 04:51.38 | threat | keyhack, google it if unsure] |
| 04:51.43 | threat | bye |
| 04:52.09 | GomoX | I just built a kernel-image using the skas-patch on it and the resulting package is called "linux-image" and doesn't behave like a typical kernel-image package (with all the Lilo stuff upon dpkg-i'ing). Is this normal? |
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| 04:53.19 | zenwryly | It seems like there's no way to specify a target for "apt-get source" that is just uses the first deb-src line for a given package. Is that right? |
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| 04:53.43 | Harley^ | There seems to be no one over on #ALSA, would someone here care to address sound that seems to work well with /dev/dsp, xmms uses ALSA but midi files are silent when played back though ALSA ports ? |
| 04:53.43 | dvm1981 | konfuzed: have read it ;-) |
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| 04:54.35 | dvm1981 | konfuzed: it's looks that there are verry many morons |
| 04:54.40 | shadows | Harley^: midi generates triggers, no sound |
| 04:54.59 | ClayG | nope cant find it |
| 04:55.00 | shadows | you need a component that takes midi triggers, and outputs sound |
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| 04:55.02 | mikeo1 | damn still dont work |
| 04:55.07 | mikeo1 | i have to say it |
| 04:55.08 | shadows | timidity++ is such an module |
| 04:55.10 | mikeo1 | the debian installer sucks |
| 04:55.16 | shadows | mikeo1: which one? |
| 04:55.22 | mikeo1 | 3.1r1 |
| 04:55.26 | shadows | there's the old one which was from before '99 |
| 04:55.27 | ShadowZ | where can i find a good MIPS repository? |
| 04:55.28 | mikeo1 | it finally installed |
| 04:55.33 | shadows | and then there is debian-installer |
| 04:55.34 | mikeo1 | but the video is all messed up |
| 04:55.35 | dvm1981 | ClayG: ok, i boot i, a minute or ten, it's in a virtual computer, and there are al 2 running now |
| 04:55.46 | ClayG | wait |
| 04:55.49 | shadows | mikeo1: you using a 2.6 kernel? |
| 04:55.49 | ClayG | a buddy just told me |
| 04:55.50 | dvm1981 | ClayG: Whis version |
| 04:55.50 | mikeo1 | i was in here a while ago trying to get it going |
| 04:55.51 | mikeo1 | yes |
| 04:55.52 | ClayG | im looking for it to make sure |
| 04:55.53 | shadows | yeah |
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| 04:55.54 | Harley^ | shadows timidity -Os mymidi.mid works fine but pmidi -p "64:0" mymidi.mid is silent. Any idea why ? |
| 04:55.57 | mikeo1 | had to use it to get it to install |
| 04:56.02 | mikeo1 | got it to boot up |
| 04:56.02 | dvm1981 | ClayG: ok |
| 04:56.03 | shadows | mikeo1: you messed up the video by switching to a VT, right? |
| 04:56.03 | ClayG | <Hentai^XPwork> under system32 in the windows folder |
| 04:56.08 | ClayG | I'm looking now to see if it's there |
| 04:56.09 | mikeo1 | ? |
| 04:56.11 | shadows | oh |
| 04:56.13 | dondelelcaro | mikeo1: the video configuration has little to do with the installer; use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86; to set up your X server properly. |
| 04:56.14 | shadows | nevermind that then |
| 04:56.15 | mikeo1 | i used the vesa drivers |
| 04:56.18 | shadows | known bug |
| 04:56.20 | ClayG | <Hentai^XPwork> /drivers/etc/hosts |
| 04:56.23 | keyhack | "/usr/bin/mkinitrd: device /dev/md1 is not a block device" |
| 04:56.26 | dvm1981 | ClayG: see you the hidden files ? |
| 04:56.28 | mikeo1 | and there are 2 windows |
| 04:56.31 | mikeo1 | on my monitor |
| 04:56.34 | mikeo1 | or rather 2 screens |
| 04:56.35 | dvm1981 | ClayG: Activate the option |
| 04:56.36 | mikeo1 | side by side |
| 04:56.42 | mikeo1 | both REALLY low resolution |
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| 04:56.51 | mikeo1 | like i cant read any text in a webbrowser |
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| 04:56.53 | mikeo1 | its that bad |
| 04:57.02 | aparna | the status message in tftp says connected - is that a lie ? |
| 04:57.05 | Harley^ | shadows http://pastebin.ca/38875 |
| 04:57.10 | mikeo1 | and wtf is up with gdm |
| 04:57.12 | dondelelcaro | mikeo1: get one of them working with the proper driver (hint: it's not vesa) and then worry about getting multi-head working properly later. |
| 04:57.30 | shadows | mikeo1: relax, you'll get it soon enough |
| 04:57.31 | mikeo1 | i have always hated gdm and they added it to debian by default |
| 04:57.33 | mikeo1 | lol |
| 04:57.38 | mikeo1 | will try that stuff up above |
| 04:57.41 | mikeo1 | anything esle |
| 04:57.44 | dondelelcaro | mikeo1: second, if you want our help, stop complaining and overusing enter. We're here to help, not to be used as a punching bag. |
| 04:57.50 | mikeo1 | ok |
| 04:57.52 | mikeo1 | no problem |
| 04:57.55 | dvm1981 | !troll |
| 04:57.55 | dpkg | rumour has it, troll is http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/troll.html, or "one who is gaming the social dynamics of the list in order to warm his miniscule soul at the flames, not one who believes himself to be debating a point of significance (however ham-handedly)." (Michael K. Edwards) |
| 04:58.09 | mikeo1 | so trying to install the nvidia drivers |
| 04:58.19 | mikeo1 | should i try to go straight to nvidia |
| 04:58.24 | mikeo1 | or do that other thing |
| 04:58.27 | mikeo1 | and go to like nv or something |
| 04:58.29 | mikeo1 | then go to nvidia |
| 04:58.31 | dvm1981 | mikeo1: use the vga, it's work will all cards |
| 04:58.35 | dondelelcaro | mikeo1: start with nv, and get that working first. |
| 04:58.41 | mikeo1 | i have a 6800gt |
| 04:58.42 | ming | anyone did true transparency in debian testing? |
| 04:58.47 | mikeo1 | if that affects the decision |
| 04:58.50 | mikeo1 | so will try nv |
| 04:59.01 | dondelelcaro | mikeo1: seriously, please stop overusing enter. Use a period, a comma, or something else. |
| 04:59.16 | mikeo1 | ok, sorry |
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| 04:59.45 | dvm1981 | bey |
| 05:00.02 | dvm1981 | salute en on de kost hein |
| 05:00.31 | aparna | hmmm. I think the problem with tftp not working is that the tftpserver has two NICs. How sucky. |
| 05:01.16 | ClayG | nice and it does work |
| 05:01.23 | ClayG | er, i mean and it is there |
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| 05:02.32 | DaveLib | hello i have a question about running X clients in a chrooted sid, inside my main sarge install running the X server |
| 05:03.13 | Random1 | does anyone know why my installation gets stuck at "Loading module 'ide-disks' for 'Linux ATA DISK'..." ? |
| 05:03.16 | shadows | DaveLib: err... ask away |
| 05:03.26 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: What was happend with dpkg yesterday ? |
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| 05:03.39 | Harley^ | hrmm... |
| 05:03.46 | DaveLib | ok thanks shadows btw i am doing this based on as\dvice i got here in #debian the other day from xoz |
| 05:03.54 | dondelelcaro | dvm1981: it's got a few bugs that need to be fixed; sometimes it locks up |
| 05:03.57 | aparna | Random1 : more detail needed. |
| 05:04.04 | Random1 | well...it gets stuck |
| 05:04.12 | DaveLib | i am running sarge only for a month sort of a newbie to debian |
| 05:04.13 | Random1 | doesnt go past 84% |
| 05:04.16 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: aaaiii, more work now ;-) |
| 05:04.27 | Random1 | i tried reburning the CDs and still have the problem |
| 05:04.37 | DaveLib | and i wanted to try a couple of extra packages from testing and sid |
| 05:04.50 | aparna | Random1 : I mean, are you using scsi, ide, serial ata, compiled your own kernel, where are you booting from etc. |
| 05:04.54 | dvm1981 | Random1: you need to load an module or so not ? |
| 05:05.06 | DaveLib | i tried to install those from synaptic and was getting library dependency problems: versioning |
| 05:05.17 | Random1 | SATA and i was trying to install from the binary 1 CD (i also tried the net installed) |
| 05:05.27 | dvm1981 | ClayG: ? |
| 05:05.30 | SimonRaven | how would i write a shell function in such a way as to have it ask me to confirm its execution and continue if i confirm in the affirmative (and exit 1 otherwise)? |
| 05:05.33 | Random1 | i installed Ubuntu a week ago and had no problem |
| 05:05.50 | DaveLib | people in #debian told me to be careful about changing library versions maybe mess up the base sarge |
| 05:05.52 | aparna | SimonRaven : bash programming how to |
| 05:05.55 | shadows | davi: what's wrong with stable? |
| 05:05.56 | Harley^ | shadows, Did you read my post at http://pastebin.ca/38875 ? If so, do you have a suggestion on how I can get pmidi or aplaymidi to work properly ? |
| 05:06.06 | dvm1981 | SimonRaven: Look at #bash or so not ? |
| 05:06.07 | bcc | how can i disable disable xscreensaver? |
| 05:06.16 | SimonRaven | aparna: what shell functions should i be looking at? while, read and such? |
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| 05:06.23 | wireddd | bcc you could remove it :) |
| 05:06.24 | shadows | Harley^: you may want to run timidity++ in daemon mode |
| 05:06.39 | DaveLib | well my stable is fine, but there were two packages i wanted to try that arent yet in stable |
| 05:06.44 | peterS | SimonRaven: 'read' is the main thing to know |
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| 05:06.45 | bcc | wireddd: yeah, i'm doing that now. any normal way of making gdm or xdm not call it? |
| 05:06.52 | dvm1981 | shadows: to who ask you ? |
| 05:06.53 | peterS | SimonRaven: assuming you can already write the rest of your function |
| 05:07.03 | SimonRaven | peterS: thanks, i'll start off on that |
| 05:07.03 | dvm1981 | shadows: sorry i see it now |
| 05:07.14 | peterS | SimonRaven: you can use 'return' to exit a shell function early, in case someone says 'no don't continue' |
| 05:07.16 | aparna | Random1 : stay with ubuntu is probably actually your best bet. If you really wanna go debian, you need to go through the install docs |
| 05:07.24 | SimonRaven | peterS: yeh, i can it's just the "ask me to run it before i run it" bit i'm stumped on |
| 05:07.27 | Harley^ | shadows - What would you suggest for pmidi or aplaymidi ? Timidity already works with the -Os flag. |
| 05:07.31 | dondelelcaro | bcc: generally if you don't load it in your .xsession, it won't start. |
| 05:07.32 | Random1 | hmmm, but i've installed it before |
| 05:07.35 | Random1 | and didnt have a problem |
| 05:07.38 | SimonRaven | peterS: aah ok |
| 05:07.42 | DaveLib | so this chroot trick was how i am tying to get to use those 2 packages while keeping my stable install safe |
| 05:07.43 | dondelelcaro | bcc: you can always kill it off or disable it too. |
| 05:07.53 | SimonRaven | thank you everyone |
| 05:07.55 | dvm1981 | ClayG: Found it ? |
| 05:08.10 | bcc | dondelelcaro: how can i disable it? |
| 05:08.18 | bcc | dondelelcaro: so that it's not loaded at all |
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| 05:08.28 | dondelelcaro | bcc: if you never want it to run, remove it. |
| 05:08.50 | bcc | dondelelcaro: won't gdm show errors if i just remove the package? |
| 05:08.50 | DaveLib | anyway i got the basics working X clients in the chrooted sid talking to the main stable X server |
| 05:08.52 | shadows | Harley^: pmidi is not responsible for interaction with your PCM sound output |
| 05:08.59 | bcc | dondelelcaro: it's screwing with my laptop' |
| 05:09.01 | SimonRaven | peterS: heh, you know me, i just need a kick in the right direction ;) |
| 05:09.02 | bcc | s backligh |
| 05:09.03 | bcc | t |
| 05:09.10 | dondelelcaro | bcc: gdm better be testing for its existance first before starting it |
| 05:09.16 | aparna | Random1 : mebbe the hard drive is failing. Lots of possibilities, hard to narrow down. |
| 05:09.18 | bcc | dondelelcaro: ok, thanks |
| 05:09.25 | dondelelcaro | bcc: and the last time I checked, the default Debian session didn't start it anyway |
| 05:09.31 | bcc | dondelelcaro: it does |
| 05:09.40 | DaveLib | oops must leave computer for a few minutes back soon and marking myself /away |
| 05:09.42 | SimonRaven | peterS: hehe ;) |
| 05:09.51 | SimonRaven | i'm looking it up in zshall ;) |
| 05:09.52 | dondelelcaro | bcc: are you using the Debian session and not the gnome session? |
| 05:09.52 | Random1 | yea, it just strange i can install Ubuntu fine and have installed Debian before with no problem..idk |
| 05:09.55 | konfuzed | bcc: instead of booting in runlevel 5 you can boot in run level 3 - is it 3? |
| 05:09.59 | bcc | dondelelcaro: gnome |
| 05:10.09 | dondelelcaro | bcc: that would be the gnome session, not the Debian session. |
| 05:10.16 | bcc | yeah, i guess |
| 05:10.32 | dondelelcaro | konfuzed: that won't do anything; this is #debian, not #fedora |
| 05:10.40 | Harley^ | shadows - huh ? pmidi -p "64:0" mymidi.mid should produce audible midi just as timidity -Os mymidi.mid does currently with the -Os ALSA flags. |
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| 05:10.53 | bcc | dondelelcaro: can i use dpms setting in xorg to just blank the screen? |
| 05:11.00 | bcc | dondelelcaro: without xscreensaver? |
| 05:11.01 | dondelelcaro | bcc: sure, if you want |
| 05:11.07 | bcc | ok, cool |
| 05:11.11 | dondelelcaro | bcc: but it won't do locking or any of the nice things that xscreensaver does |
| 05:11.12 | konfuzed | hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm dondelelcaro are you saying debian ditched run levels ? probably not what do you mean? |
| 05:11.18 | bcc | dondelelcaro: i know |
| 05:11.29 | dondelelcaro | konfuzed: no, I'm telling you that we don't differentiate by default between runlevel 2-5. |
| 05:11.39 | konfuzed | oh ok |
| 05:11.55 | konfuzed | i was about to fall off the deep end of the abyss of konfuzion |
| 05:12.21 | konfuzed | very important to know that thank you |
| 05:13.00 | peterS | konfuzed: debian retains the runlevel numbering of 2 meaning multiuser and 6 meaning reboot, so as not to confuse old unix hands. but we set up 2 through 5 to be identical. local admins are welcome to customize them however they want. |
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| 05:13.58 | konfuzed | peterS: kewl. that no doubt saves me much confusion in the future when runlevel does not behave like im used to |
| 05:15.24 | Sonny | hello, I think I have serious problems with my hard disk, when I boot I receive this msg: "Disk write error" , I have live cd knoppix can I format it using it? |
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| 05:15.40 | konfuzed | damn my debian box is off. no doubt /etc/init.d/rc.*d is still the directories specifying what happens on each run level? |
| 05:15.51 | konfuzed | i think my memory failed me on that directory ;^) |
| 05:15.53 | peterS | konfuzed: no, just /etc/rc*.d/ |
| 05:15.54 | dvm1981 | ClayG: i Found it ! |
| 05:16.09 | peterS | konfuzed: the extra level "/etc/init.d/rc*.d" is a redhat-ism |
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| 05:16.29 | peterS | konfuzed: the LSB sided with Debian on that question, so now red hat supports both locations, with symlinks |
| 05:16.40 | dominicano | dvm1981, hi, |
| 05:16.51 | dominicano | dvm1981, good morning |
| 05:17.02 | konfuzed | right great. Now I can be sure to tie all that together and will mess with /etc/rc*.d/ should I need to modify a run level. |
| 05:17.09 | bucky | peterS, we were right all along |
| 05:17.14 | peterS | bucky: quite |
| 05:17.20 | dvm1981 | dominicano: hello man :-) yes good morning, its 06:20 am here |
| 05:17.34 | ClayG | pretty neat huh |
| 05:17.49 | Sonny | hello, I think I have serious problems with my hard disk, when I boot I receive this msg: "Disk write error" , I have live cd knoppix can I format it using it? |
| 05:17.51 | peterS | konfuzed: the official way to modify runlevels is with 'update-rc.d', but really, adjusting the symlinks yourself is easier IMO |
| 05:17.51 | dvm1981 | ClayG: Have you found it ? |
| 05:17.54 | dominicano | dvm1981, it is 01:17 here in dominican republic |
| 05:17.55 | ClayG | yeah |
| 05:18.13 | Sonny | #debian-es |
| 05:18.15 | ClayG | windows>system32>drivers>etc |
| 05:18.23 | dvm1981 | dominicano: So you are going to sleep in max an hour or two ;-) |
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| 05:18.51 | dominicano | dvm1981, no, I were slepping the whole afternoon |
| 05:18.53 | dvm1981 | dominicano: and 3.3 to 3.4 now ? |
| 05:19.19 | dominicano | dvm1981, see, i am not usgin 3.3 or 3.4 either |
| 05:19.21 | dvm1981 | dominicano: hoella, you chat here now the whole night then ? |
| 05:19.25 | konfuzed | bcc: if you're really stuck go to /etc/rc3.d/ and delete the links to the scripts that start X and Gnome and then you can boot a runlevel with out GUI. Although, to actually fix your problem follow someone else's advice ;^) |
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| 05:19.38 | dominicano | dvm1981, i am in kde 0.0 |
| 05:19.40 | Sonny | hello, how can I format mi hard disk from the knoppix live cd? |
| 05:19.41 | dvm1981 | dominicano: the kde version i would say |
| 05:19.45 | dominicano | dvm1981, i gonna tell you why |
| 05:19.50 | dvm1981 | dominicano: ok |
| 05:20.02 | Harley^ | No reply |
| 05:20.05 | dominicano | dvm1981, now, i am using my ubuntu dist. because I damage my XF86config |
| 05:20.06 | Harley^ | heh |
| 05:20.25 | liable | Sonny: use cfdisk from a term, or qtparted |
| 05:20.31 | ClayG | lets say I have a p2p network, and no real "client server" relationships. How can I still make my computer (called oldman), named oldman.powermoves.be |
| 05:20.35 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Before modifying cp the file, so you have a backup of it, fire ubuntu out |
| 05:20.37 | konfuzed | ok my good deed for the day is done ;^) unless you count my rare comment on slashdot http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175308&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=14583871 ;^) more of a rant really |
| 05:20.39 | dvm1981 | !ubuntu |
| 05:20.46 | dominicano | dvm1981, I know, that the best way to learn is doing it by your self, I was so far in my experiment |
| 05:21.00 | phycho | hey guys, ive got a problem with my debian UML. it wont let me login via ssh or telnet. |
| 05:21.04 | phycho | it says the user is invalid |
| 05:21.06 | dvm1981 | ~ubuntu |
| 05:21.08 | apt | ubuntu is probably has a lot of users because the lot of pornography: http://htmldesign.dk/mostwanted/img/Ubuntu_Josie_1_ed3_800.png http://www.theonelab.com/files/images/thumbnails/ubuntu-startup.jpg http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg http://www.madebylane.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-babe.png Woooha ! Im go to ubuntu ! :D~~ |
| 05:21.10 | phycho | the logs all have _nothing_ in them at all |
| 05:21.15 | phycho | anyone got any ideas on how to fix it? |
| 05:21.15 | phycho | ;/ |
| 05:21.17 | dominicano | dvm1981, Can I post you my XF86 file in pastebin_? |
| 05:21.18 | dvm1981 | shit the dpkg are go one |
| 05:21.19 | Sonny | liable, and how can I correct the mbr of my hd? |
| 05:21.25 | keyhack | Is there a way when I'm compiling my own kernel to change it so it doesn't say "Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable tty1" ? |
| 05:21.43 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: dpkg are dead again |
| 05:21.48 | konfuzed | dominicano: the best way to learn is a mix of do it your self and just do what others tell you and go back and forth on that until you really get it. |
| 05:21.50 | bucky | !test |
| 05:21.51 | dpkg | Sorry, bucky, I didn't get your test. |
| 05:21.51 | dondelelcaro | !status |
| 05:21.51 | dpkg | Since Fri Jan 27 20:28:34 2006, there have been 3 modifications, 113 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 28 commands. I have been awake for 8h 53m 16s this session, and currently reference 31894 factoids. I'm using about 14316 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 63.48/3.71 child 0/0 |
| 05:21.55 | Coweater | keyhack: that has nothing to do with the kernel |
| 05:21.56 | dvm1981 | dominicano: yep, but not that of ubuntu |
| 05:22.14 | keyhack | Coweater: Oh ok |
| 05:22.17 | Coweater | keyhack: /etc/issue |
| 05:22.40 | Coweater | keyhack: also man issue |
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| 05:23.19 | dominicano | dvm1981, of course not from my ubuntu, i can access to my debian partition |
| 05:23.39 | keyhack | Coweater: Sweet, thanks. Now just gotta figure out how to not display the welcome? message after a user logs in |
| 05:24.08 | Coweater | keyhack: man motd |
| 05:24.30 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Otherwise run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' |
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| 05:24.50 | dominicano | dvm1981, I made this |
| 05:24.59 | dominicano | dvm1981, several times I made de reconfigure |
| 05:25.21 | dvm1981 | dominicano: But learn to make a copy of a config file before editing, so you can comme back again without troubles |
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| 05:25.30 | Harley^ | shadows, No response ? |
| 05:25.32 | dvm1981 | dominicano: ok, we try to debug it |
| 05:25.38 | dominicano | dvm1981, I made a copy too |
| 05:25.52 | dvm1981 | dominicano: can you not restore it ? |
| 05:25.53 | dominicano | dvm1981, I made all the steps to reconfigure the X |
| 05:26.03 | gozz | is thier an app that will copy dvds to hdd ? |
| 05:26.12 | dominicano | dvm1981, If I restore the backup I have the same problem |
| 05:26.31 | dvm1981 | dominicano: So you have not make a copy of the file before editing ? |
| 05:26.32 | dominicano | dvm1981, I guees is not a config file problem |
| 05:26.52 | dvm1981 | dominicano: aaii, and what is the problem, describe |
| 05:26.57 | dominicano | dvm1981, every day I make a copy from the whole etc dir |
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| 05:27.11 | dvm1981 | dominicano: That's not a bad thing |
| 05:27.37 | dvm1981 | dominicano: can you not restore the whole etc ? from previous backups |
| 05:27.46 | dominicano | dvm1981, yes I can |
| 05:27.50 | dominicano | dvm1981, and i made this |
| 05:27.58 | dominicano | dvm1981, the error continue |
| 05:28.10 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Strange, no normal |
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| 05:28.34 | dvm1981 | dominicano: What have you change the last thing ? |
| 05:29.02 | dominicano | dvm1981, the acpi=off to on" in the grub config |
| 05:29.12 | keyhack | gar, "sysv-rc-bootsplash" won't patch my files. :-\ |
| 05:30.25 | dvm1981 | dominicano: And what is the error, or what happend exactly ? describe, ex. you power on, then see the pinguin, he load things and wait on and fail on 'xy' |
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| 05:30.41 | mikeo1 | still dont work |
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| 05:30.48 | mikeo1 | i editied the x86config file in nano |
| 05:30.56 | dvm1981 | dominicano: i can not read in you're brain he |
| 05:30.56 | mikeo1 | and didnt work with several different video drivers |
| 05:31.06 | mikeo1 | and did a dpkg-reconfigure of the x86 thing too |
| 05:31.17 | mikeo1 | it said to do that in the x86config file to reconfigure the file |
| 05:31.19 | dvm1981 | mikeo1: with nano you edit ... |
| 05:31.27 | mikeo1 | yes |
| 05:31.33 | gozz | does mplayer play dvds by default without any extra config? |
| 05:31.37 | dominicano | dvm1981, hahah, |
| 05:31.51 | dvm1981 | mikeo1: making a backup of it ? see the same troubles here, vga ?? |
| 05:32.02 | mikeo1 | ? |
| 05:32.12 | wireddd | gozz you need libdvdcss2 in addition to mplayer |
| 05:32.13 | mikeo1 | it didnt work with vga |
| 05:32.15 | mikeo1 | or nv |
| 05:32.23 | mikeo1 | i tried both through the dpkg-reconfigure |
| 05:32.26 | gozz | ok |
| 05:33.11 | mikeo1 | thinking about killing it and trying some other dist but i dont want to leave the magic cow powers of apt, and i remember lots of debian specific stuff from using it a while ago |
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| 05:34.06 | dvm1981 | dominicano: hello |
| 05:34.08 | mikeo1 | hmmm has anyone had problems of having a really low resolutin and having 2 screens appear on their monitor |
| 05:34.31 | comsa | yes |
| 05:34.41 | dominicano | dvm1981, i am here, i'm writing some emails |
| 05:34.43 | mikeo1 | what did you do to fix it? |
| 05:34.56 | comsa | new vid card |
| 05:35.02 | dvm1981 | dominicano: you not explain you're problem, so i can not try to help you |
| 05:35.04 | mikeo1 | lol |
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| 05:35.16 | mikeo1 | id think that a 6800gt is pretty standard |
| 05:35.25 | mikeo1 | it works fine with every live cd i have tested |
| 05:35.27 | dvm1981 | mikeo1: ATI ? |
| 05:35.32 | mikeo1 | nvidia |
| 05:35.49 | comsa | ati cheep |
| 05:35.56 | xaxes|free | hey |
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| 05:36.01 | dvm1981 | dpkg not work anymore in private room, dpkg see troubles it seems |
| 05:36.28 | Gnea | !dpkg |
| 05:36.32 | Gnea | !botsnack |
| 05:36.32 | dpkg | thanks, Gnea |
| 05:36.39 | dvm1981 | hhhmmm strang |
| 05:36.44 | dvm1981 | eeee |
| 05:36.52 | Gnea | maybe you overloaded the bot :) |
| 05:37.02 | xaxes|free | do anybody know a page where u could create ur prefered laptop? |
| 05:37.58 | mikeo1 | think its time for a reinstall |
| 05:38.02 | mikeo1 | to see if it fixes anything |
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| 05:39.25 | konfuzed | hhhmmmmm i used to be only ATI now ive flipped to only NVidia. primarily because NVidia has licensed technologies from AMD (such as memory bus and related) and I only use AMD cpu's so it rather makes sense to do AMD with NVidia chipset and NVidia GPU. |
| 05:40.04 | comsa | thanks konfuzed |
| 05:40.11 | Howie | Makes sense Konfused.\ |
| 05:40.20 | konfuzed | my real question being, how well is NVidia supported under Debian ?? NVidia Mother board chipsets seperate from NVidia graphics cards? |
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| 05:40.23 | rohan | hi all... |
| 05:40.38 | konfuzed | trying to reduce my use of enter ;^) |
| 05:40.45 | rohan | how do i install kde in debian ? apt-get install kde installs a lot of kde components. |
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| 05:41.57 | comsa | will kde start |
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| 05:42.44 | jshriver_ | greetings |
| 05:42.46 | wireddd | apt-get install kde does install kde in debian |
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| 05:42.57 | jshriver_ | Anyone here use debian and Gnome 2.0? having problems with sound |
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| 05:43.04 | rohan | i downloaded debian daily testing installer 111mb image ... anything i must keep in mind when installing debian usingthat disc ? |
| 05:43.07 | DaveLib | back again |
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| 05:43.31 | jshriver_ | the volume control in gnome is broken after doing an update. How do I fix it? |
| 05:43.47 | DaveLib | earlier i was starting to ask about chrooted X clients talking to a main X server |
| 05:43.48 | jshriver_ | the only way I can adjust the volume now is "setmixer -V pcm2 +/-10" |
| 05:44.40 | DaveLib | some parts of that are working but i seem to have 2 problems remaining |
| 05:45.11 | jshriver_ | ? rooms ? |
| 05:45.20 | DaveLib | namely gnome clients make an error message about not being able to connect to the gnome session manager |
| 05:45.39 | DaveLib | and then dying right after the error message |
| 05:46.07 | dvm1981 | Can someone say me why dpkg not work anymore in private room ? |
| 05:46.11 | dvm1981 | !test |
| 05:46.19 | dvm1981 | fail |
| 05:46.25 | jshriver_ | what are you talking about? private room? |
| 05:46.26 | DaveLib | also other problem i am trying to run a client that wants to open a window with high resolution large graphics image |
| 05:46.51 | DaveLib | i get soem error message abotu not being able to open a context for the window or something |
| 05:46.58 | dvm1981 | jshriver: i want to talk with the both, i private so i not perturbate here the others |
| 05:47.12 | dvm1981 | jshriver: with the bot, sorry |
| 05:47.12 | comsa | DaveLib what are u on |
| 05:47.34 | DaveLib | anyway between the chroot and the main i did mount --bind between the main /tmp and chrooted /tmp |
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| 05:48.11 | comsa | i want some |
| 05:48.24 | gozz | im trying to play a dvd with mplayer and im getting faild to open dvd://1 i changed the preferences to /dev/cdrom but i still get the error? |
| 05:48.26 | rohan | ah, debian archives dont have gnu gnash ? |
| 05:48.31 | DaveLib | comsa: i am running a 2.8 gHz celeron running sarge as my main system and i have sid running chrooted in /sid/ inside the sarge |
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| 05:49.34 | DaveLib | i think the problems i am having that there are more links i should put in between the main and the chroot |
| 05:49.44 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: apt and dpkg crashed again ? |
| 05:50.04 | DaveLib | i did an fstab entry to mount proc to /sid/proc |
| 05:50.13 | konfuzed | jshriver: let me see if I can help, dvm1981 wants this channels bot to respond in a private dialog, hopefully that was opened with another user on this channel but probably not |
| 05:50.33 | DaveLib | and i copied /etc/hosts to /sid/etc/hosts i read to do that on a web page |
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| 05:51.06 | rredd4 | how can i config ppp when i am using a pci modem? |
| 05:51.11 | dvm1981 | konfuzed: thankx to clarify |
| 05:51.15 | DaveLib | those are all the connections i presently have between / and /sid : /proc 's /tmp |
| 05:51.20 | DaveLib | and /etc/hosts |
| 05:51.29 | konfuzed | jshriver: I always try to expel confusion when ever I see. although some times I manage to exponentially increase the konfuzion ;^) |
| 05:51.31 | rohan | the debian net install cd does not have vim ?! wtf ? |
| 05:52.00 | konfuzed | rohan: it probably downloads it off the net |
| 05:52.02 | comsa | try to mount dvd as drive |
| 05:52.14 | konfuzed | as in NET install |
| 05:52.22 | rohan | konfuzed: yes, but vim is such a system essentiall tool :| |
| 05:52.28 | comsa | try to mount dvd as drive gozz |
| 05:52.33 | konfuzed | oh yes but not until after the install |
| 05:52.43 | DaveLib | so 1 question how does a gnome client connect to the gnome session manager ie should i mount --bind some directories or make a hard link between some files |
| 05:53.24 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:53.24 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:53.28 | gozz | i can access the dvd with konqueror and see the files |
| 05:53.47 | dvm1981 | !test |
| 05:54.03 | dvm1981 | so i have no more the rights to ask the bot ? |
| 05:54.12 | phycho | hey guys, what debian authentication packages are needed to login to a system? |
| 05:54.19 | phycho | or more to the point, needed to login to a system remotely |
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| 05:54.27 | phycho | it keeps saying that the user does not exist when i know fine well it does |
| 05:54.32 | phycho | and i can login fine via console grr |
| 05:54.39 | vulture | phycho: which user? root? |
| 05:54.44 | phycho | yep |
| 05:54.45 | rohan | ok, guys, i am off to install debian ... |
| 05:54.47 | phycho | or even a user account |
| 05:54.48 | rohan | cya soon :) |
| 05:54.49 | phycho | does the same thing |
| 05:55.02 | vulture | psyco-obiwan: and with what are you logging in? |
| 05:55.02 | phycho | if it helps any, its a UML jail. |
| 05:55.03 | vulture | ssh? |
| 05:55.10 | phycho | i tried both ssh and telnet |
| 05:55.11 | phycho | both do it |
| 05:55.14 | rredd4 | is it possible to config ppp when i am using a pci modem in slot 4? |
| 05:55.14 | DaveLib | i just duplicated my graphics problem in another window the client program is celestia |
| 05:55.28 | vulture | not sure what a UML jail is exactly, so *shrugs* but debian's ssh package disallows root logins by default |
| 05:55.28 | phycho | any ideas? |
| 05:55.35 | phycho | nah, its not that. |
| 05:55.45 | Shadowcat | vulture: no it doesn't |
| 05:55.48 | liable | vulture: no it doesnt. |
| 05:55.52 | comsa | external modems work fine |
| 05:55.53 | liable | !lose me |
| 05:55.53 | dpkg | liable: You Lose. |
| 05:55.55 | phycho | vulture - it allows any logins |
| 05:55.59 | phycho | by default |
| 05:56.02 | dvm1981 | Why i have not more the right to talk with the bot ? |
| 05:56.06 | Shadowcat | !beat liable |
| 05:56.18 | phycho | but either way, it still doesnt god damn work |
| 05:56.22 | phycho | and im tearing my hair out |
| 05:56.24 | rredd4 | comsa: so i can't use a pci modem? |
| 05:56.29 | phycho | about to format the UML and install slack instead. |
| 05:56.33 | vulture | liable: hmm, I could be wrong. I do remember a fair bit of debate about that default. |
| 05:56.45 | wireddd | phycho, you are connecting to the correct ip aren't you |
| 05:56.50 | phycho | yeah. |
| 05:56.54 | comsa | had one running in xandros |
| 05:57.04 | phycho | syslogd doesnt even fkin work so i cant even debug it |
| 05:57.13 | DaveLib | the 1st error message i get: unable to create direct context rendering for window "Celestia" |
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| 05:57.15 | dvm1981 | !test |
| 05:57.25 | konfuzed | dvm1981: uhm i dont really know much about these irc bots myself, although you should know that BOTS are more like add ons added by hackers. They are programs that have to be set to run on a per channel basis. So, unless someone explicity added a bot to what ever channel you are in (You if you created the channel) ! So, you can only speak to a bot already running in the specific channel it was set |
| 05:57.26 | liable | dvm1981: the bot probably decided to /ignore you. |
| 05:57.27 | rredd4 | what is the command to config ppp? |
| 05:57.38 | phycho | im tempted to go back to freebsd |
| 05:57.38 | comsa | pppconfig |
| 05:57.47 | phycho | spend more time hacking it to get it to work than running the damned thing |
| 05:57.54 | rredd4 | k |
| 05:57.57 | Shadowcat | dvm1981: stop trolling |
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| 05:58.07 | liable | dvm1981: /j #debian-bots |
| 05:58.13 | konfuzed | kewl |
| 05:58.21 | DaveLib | then 2nd erros message: X Error of failed request: GLXBadLargeRequest |
| 05:58.27 | rredd4 | comsa: just that, no other words or symbols? |
| 05:58.41 | dvm1981 | Shadowcat: i not a troll man |
| 05:58.41 | comsa | yep |
| 05:58.47 | rredd4 | k ty |
| 05:58.54 | gozz | comsa thanks |
| 05:58.59 | comsa | yep as root |
| 05:59.15 | rredd4 | this seems hard to config a pci modem... not supported?? |
| 05:59.28 | liable | !winmodem |
| 05:59.28 | dpkg | GPL driver and info can be found in http://www-124.ibm.com/acpmodem/ http://www.linmodems.org, or http://linux.nf/lesbell.htm or here is a black list of known to be winmodems: http://start.at/modem/ and http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html. See also: winmodem-trick, or a 3Com/USRobotics trademark, or see <slmodem> |
| 05:59.30 | dvm1981 | liable: thx, i have do it |
| 06:00.08 | DaveLib | i just remembered a 3rd problem i have been having |
| 06:00.40 | rredd4 | ty |
| 06:00.41 | liable | only two problems per customer per day, kthx |
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| 06:00.50 | Shadowcat | dvm1981: stop abusing /me |
| 06:00.51 | DaveLib | the other client tomboy i am supposed to be able to click on a url and follow it |
| 06:00.57 | Shadowcat | dvm1981: we can read what you type |
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| 06:01.17 | DaveLib | tomboy is not a web browser but the click is supposed to activate one |
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| 06:01.33 | biffhero_ | what package do I need to install to build python packages? |
| 06:01.52 | dvm1981 | konfuzed: understand |
| 06:01.57 | DaveLib | so that activation from tomboy isnt working |
| 06:01.59 | biffhero_ | python setup.py build gives me... unable to open /usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile |
| 06:02.06 | comsa | biif on debian |
| 06:02.22 | DaveLib | tomboy is running chrooted in /sid and my browsers are in / |
| 06:02.36 | DaveLib | i dont have any browsers installed in /sid |
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| 06:03.17 | DaveLib | also in /sid i didnt configure anything about preferred applications |
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| 06:03.48 | biffhero_ | python2.3-id3lib_0.5.1-3_i386.deb won't install, since my libid3-3.8.3 is the wrong one |
| 06:03.58 | DaveLib | i am running gnome there is a menu item preferred applications where you can pick your preferred web browser email client etc |
| 06:04.06 | phycho | reexec socketpair: Address family not supported by protocol |
| 06:04.09 | phycho | anyone seen that before? |
| 06:04.20 | DaveLib | but that is gnome running from sarge in / |
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| 06:04.48 | DaveLib | so i need to do the corresponding config inside /sid |
| 06:05.02 | konfuzed | is there any difference between debians support for VIA chipsets, SIS or NVidia chipsets? perhaps there is some doc somewhere that is in context of Debian on ?those chipsets |
| 06:05.14 | DaveLib | but i cant from the menu that would just reconfig / |
| 06:05.30 | DaveLib | so i need to edit the actual config files the /sid ones |
| 06:05.40 | DaveLib | but i dont know what they are |
| 06:06.27 | DaveLib | anyway if i get that working i still need to make tomboy from /sid talk to the browser in / |
| 06:07.28 | konfuzed | aside from those features listed with those chipsets, which chipset has the best support under debian? |
| 06:07.32 | Shadowcat | bah |
| 06:07.39 | Shadowcat | !need |
| 06:07.39 | dpkg | You don't NEED an application. You definitely don't NEED a game or site. You do not NEED a shell. You do not NEED to get a ban lifted. You NEED food. So go and buy your food, and if you feel that you absolutely NEED a program, we suggest that you go and buy that too while you're out. you do need beer, though. |
| 06:07.50 | comsa | www2.ati.com/drivers/linux_8.16.20.html |
| 06:07.53 | DaveLib | the documentation i found on the web said for X client to talk to X server that is why you mount --bind the /tmp 's |
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| 06:08.09 | comsa | www2.ati.com/drivers/linux_8.16.20.html Konfused |
| 06:09.07 | Xenguy | Hi - can anyone recommend a command-line utility that converts WAV to MP3 audio files? |
| 06:09.33 | odla | does mpg321 do that? |
| 06:09.35 | konfuzed | comsa: We're sorry, but this download request cannot be authorized. As an option, you may visit any of the pages below for information about ATI services and products: |
| 06:09.42 | ilba7r | Xenguy, sox |
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| 06:09.46 | konfuzed | it called me a leech ;^) |
| 06:09.51 | Xenguy | ilba7r: sox will do that? |
| 06:10.11 | ilba7r | let me check the web page for you |
| 06:10.18 | Xenguy | ilba7r odla I'll check on those, tx |
| 06:10.28 | konfuzed | which is ok because I currently can only advise people to buy and use NVidia graphics cards |
| 06:10.35 | comsa | thats for u konfused |
| 06:12.44 | ilba7r | Xenguy, it will see the link here http://sox.sourceforge.net/ |
| 06:12.57 | silverton | konfuzed, https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300 |
| 06:13.02 | konfuzed | comsa: so I found those ati drivers page and book marked it for those who come to me and say I already have an ATI card isntalled |
| 06:13.05 | silverton | it called you a leech cause you were linked there, and they don't want that |
| 06:13.37 | konfuzed | actually the link put up by comsa did not have http: in front so I had to cut and paste |
| 06:14.41 | comsa | sorry bout that |
| 06:15.02 | konfuzed | so graphics cards is one thing but what about the motherboard chipset? is the NVidia mobo chipset delivering or choking under debian or linux in general |
| 06:15.28 | Xenguy | ilba7r: tx, reading up on sox now |
| 06:15.40 | dvm1981 | make-dpkg(8) is fault ??, make-dpkg(1) are good?, right ?? error in the debian-reference-en chap 2.7.2 ?? |
| 06:15.55 | konfuzed | i only NEED to know because I am actively telling people what is better and why and I strive to be unkonfuzed about these things. |
| 06:16.08 | wireddd | konfuzed, I know the older nvidia chipsets work great |
| 06:16.18 | silverton | konfuzed, the nforce chipset, has a better linux driver then the windows driver |
| 06:16.27 | konfuzed | that requires that I dont just go with my first whim but actually confirm that other Living people actually agree |
| 06:16.38 | silverton | konfuzed, what motherboard are you getting? |
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| 06:17.33 | konfuzed | I picked up an MSI something about 7 months ago (SLI based) with NVidia chipset |
| 06:17.50 | dvm1981 | Can someon confirm me that it's not correct, so i can make a bug report. |
| 06:17.54 | silverton | nforce3 or 4? |
| 06:18.02 | silverton | either way, should be supported just fine |
| 06:18.07 | Shadowcat | Linux will run on any hardware |
| 06:18.13 | Shadowcat | and as for chipset support |
| 06:18.25 | Shadowcat | if you want the most optimized system, install gentoo and compile for 15 hours |
| 06:18.30 | silverton | durrr... linux runz on mi breadmaker! |
| 06:18.36 | konfuzed | for my AMD 939 64bit processor damn fuzzy head cant remember the 3200+ yeah thats it |
| 06:18.41 | Shadowcat | otherwise you won't notice the 2 ns difference when it comes to random sampling |
| 06:18.49 | zoid | any reason why (in unstable) mysql-server-4.1 depends on mysql-server-5.0 and mysql-client-4.1 depends on mysql-client-5.0? |
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| 06:18.51 | silverton | Shadowcat, even then you get like .005% optimization ;D |
| 06:18.52 | vulture | Linux won't necessarily run on any hardware.. (if we're talking about CPU architectures) it runs on those it's been designed to handl. It's not like it's CPU agnostic. |
| 06:19.04 | Shadowcat | zoid: why are you running unstable? |
| 06:19.16 | Shadowcat | vulture: you lie! |
| 06:19.17 | Shadowcat | :P |
| 06:19.23 | zoid | Shadowcat: why do you ask? |
| 06:19.37 | Shadowcat | zoid: because if you ask a question like that you shouldn't be running unstable |
| 06:19.45 | wireddd | damn my laptop battery won't hold a charge any more |
| 06:19.47 | silverton | pwnt >.< |
| 06:19.54 | Shadowcat | you're expected to sort out dependencies on your own in sid |
| 06:19.54 | silverton | wireddd, I hate it when that happens! |
| 06:20.11 | vulture | zoid: Have you read the package descripions for the *-4.1 packages? |
| 06:20.12 | konfuzed | ok so one can comfortably say that NVidia chipset is better supported under linux than WindowsXP ?? |
| 06:20.16 | vulture | hey answer your quesion pretty clearly |
| 06:20.21 | cr3 | anyone happen to be using the calendar command found in the bsdmainutils? can it actually be used as a real calendar or should I consider something more elaborate? |
| 06:20.22 | wireddd | but it says it is 100% charged |
| 06:20.24 | silverton | konfuzed, I know personally that it does :) |
| 06:20.26 | vulture | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.27 | vulture | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.35 | zoid | vulture: not as of late, i just tried to resurrect an old system that was quite outdated |
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| 06:20.52 | Shadowcat | vulture: obviously he didn't read |
| 06:20.52 | konfuzed | silverton: how could I go about replicating your demonstration ;^) |
| 06:20.58 | comsa | laptop make |
| 06:21.02 | burnett | hi, can somebody tell me how to fix master boot from knoppix live cd? |
| 06:21.04 | vulture | Shadowcat: Obviously. |
| 06:21.06 | silverton | install linux, and then install the nforce driver package from nvidia.com :P |
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| 06:21.20 | Shadowcat | silverton: not like you need that |
| 06:21.21 | billyt | hello? |
| 06:21.29 | billyt | need some help |
| 06:21.32 | wireddd | comsa, its a sager |
| 06:21.32 | silverton | Shadowcat, actually, with my nforce board, I don't |
| 06:21.39 | wireddd | pretty old one too |
| 06:21.49 | Shadowcat | !tell billyt about need |
| 06:21.53 | burnett | hi, can somebody tell me how to fix master boot from knoppix live cd? |
| 06:22.00 | silverton | since my ethernet isn't part of the nforce shipset, it's VIA |
| 06:22.07 | Shadowcat | !tell burnett about repeat |
| 06:22.07 | vulture | burnett: does this look like #knoppix to you? |
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| 06:22.47 | comsa | look at the terminals in the unit |
| 06:22.51 | billyt | i need some help with a kernel panic in debian etch 2.6.12-1-k7 |
| 06:23.05 | silverton | 0.o |
| 06:23.10 | Shadowcat | !tell billyt about specific |
| 06:23.12 | silverton | he's jumping all over the map |
| 06:23.26 | burnett | vulture, well its like debian... right? the fact is that I use debian so its just an emergency, thats the reason cause I'm using live cd now |
| 06:23.30 | konfuzed | I suspect VIA chipsets still holds the over all title of best choice mobo chipset but would Debian programmers even think about it or know the differences (unless tripped over a problem) ? |
| 06:23.32 | billyt | more then happy to be specific |
| 06:23.46 | Shadowcat | burnett: here's an idea |
| 06:23.48 | Shadowcat | info grub |
| 06:23.49 | Shadowcat | go read it |
| 06:23.56 | vulture | burnett: It's like it, derived form it, but not _it_. That's why there's #knoppix |
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| 06:24.11 | konfuzed | I'd like to see a vote as to the top chipset of choice to use. |
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| 06:24.27 | silverton | my new board is gonna have the nforce430 chipset |
| 06:24.30 | konfuzed | no doubt SIS still sits at the bottom of the list, at least perceptually |
| 06:24.44 | billyt | the kernel panic i am recieving is the following " No Such File or Driectory /sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: no such file Kernel Panic - not syncing : attempted to kill init |
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| 06:25.08 | SimonRaven | peterS: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1661 # my goal; also have one for -maxdepth 1 |
| 06:25.11 | DaveLib | konfuzed: i am using SIS :-( |
| 06:25.19 | billyt | this is on a nforce 2 mobo |
| 06:25.39 | SimonRaven | was tired of typing out the comman over and over |
| 06:25.42 | SimonRaven | d |
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| 06:26.08 | jtza8 | Is there a quick way to remove the ext3 journal from my ext2 filesystem? |
| 06:26.11 | SimonRaven | even doing ^r was getting tedious |
| 06:26.38 | jtza8 | That is, without "re-formatting". |
| 06:26.39 | konfuzed | jtza8: ext3 is ext2 plus journalling and nothing more (so im told) |
| 06:27.00 | comsa | had the same prob with an old tosh laptop |
| 06:27.23 | billyt | ok i guess i am not going to get any help with my issue? |
| 06:27.44 | jtza8 | Ok, so I can mount an ext3 filesystem as ext2 and then I won't be using the journal. But is there any way of removing it? |
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| 06:28.17 | shadows | jtza8: hmm |
| 06:28.58 | konfuzed | ok so minorly reassuring is that no one has told me im out to lunch on this (yet ;^) but thats just not as good as a Technical Review article ;^) |
| 06:29.41 | DaveLib | billyt: i suppose if you came to your computer with a rescue disk and checked if your main partition has /dev/console |
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| 06:29.57 | enorbet | hello |
| 06:30.07 | DaveLib | billyt: i just checked on my sarge system: i have /dev/console |
| 06:30.31 | DaveLib | enorbet: hello |
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| 06:30.55 | jtza8 | Well. Thanks for your time people. |
| 06:31.07 | atrus | jtza8: iirc, fsck'ing the ext2 partition in ext2 mode will do that. |
| 06:31.11 | billyt | well if i had a rescue disk i would.. is there a place i can get one? |
| 06:31.50 | poige | hello! Whose libresolv is? glibc's? |
| 06:31.52 | DaveLib | billyt: what filesystem are you using on your main installation? |
| 06:32.15 | dvm1981 | make-dpkg(8) is fault ??, make-dpkg(1) are good?, right ?? error in the debian-reference-en chap 2.7.2 ?? |
| 06:32.16 | DaveLib | billyt: i know a small rescue disk but it doesnt handle reiser |
| 06:32.20 | dvm1981 | Can someon confirm me that it's not correct, so i can make a bug report. |
| 06:32.43 | liable | jtza8: man tune2fs iirc |
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| 06:33.05 | konfuzed | Im a little surprised that I can almost never get anyone to comment technically about chipsets. Programers,developers and kernel writers seem to basically never have to think about these things and I can never find any commentary related to a comparison under linux? is that because it is basically all about hardware drivers?? |
| 06:33.07 | billyt | dave i am not sure. how can i tell (sorry sort of a noob when it comes to this |
| 06:33.23 | konfuzed | and so nobody cares |
| 06:33.58 | enorbet | I am fairly new to Debian and not used to all the "automatics" so I'd like to ask about "proper" procedure for changing "/etc/fstab" and not have "etcdev2fstab" rewrite it every boot or whatever is required in Debian to permanently mount "/home" to a separate partition after successful install...THX |
| 06:34.03 | DaveLib | billyt: you are running (main installation) Debian sarge ie stable ? |
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| 06:34.19 | billyt | no... Debian Etch |
| 06:34.35 | billyt | 2.6.12-1-K7 kernel |
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| 06:34.54 | Daveman | I'm the real Dave. |
| 06:35.00 | DaveLib | billyt: ok i use sarge so i am not sure my sarge defaulted to ext3 as main filesystem |
| 06:35.11 | DaveLib | hello real dave |
| 06:35.13 | billyt | ok this might be.. |
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| 06:35.29 | Daveman | Hello, DaveLib :) |
| 06:35.35 | DaveLib | billyt: it is probably a good guess that yours is ext3 also |
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| 06:35.37 | billyt | hang on let me tell you what happens here |
| 06:35.58 | liable | jtza8: tune2fs -0 ^feature |
| 06:36.10 | DaveLib | hello Daveman: i didnt use nick "dave" because i figured it would be taken :) |
| 06:36.10 | konfuzed | oh davelib in toronto - how bout dat |
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| 06:36.21 | dvm1981 | liable: you have searched for him ;-) |
| 06:36.26 | Daveman | :p |
| 06:36.53 | liable | dvm1981: refreshing my memory also. |
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| 06:37.27 | dvm1981 | liable: Yest that's sure, hhhmmm so, that not bad he ;-) |
| 06:37.32 | DaveLib | billyt: there is a small rescue disk tomsrtbt |
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| 06:38.08 | DaveLib | konfuzed: i am actually in ottawa |
| 06:38.19 | billyt | when i get a choice to edit or boot from grub i can edit the boot i modify kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-K7 to be /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-K& root=dev/hda1 and it will get past where it panics but it then trys to put me in the maintinance shell |
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| 06:38.31 | billyt | where can i get the rescue disk? |
| 06:39.04 | DaveLib | billyt: ahh ok maintenence shell is good |
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| 06:39.27 | TBBle | Stuff in the NEW/BYHAND queue's not downloadable anywhere particlar, is it? |
| 06:39.29 | billyt | good |
| 06:39.31 | DaveLib | billyt: tomsrtbt stands for tom's root boot disk (easier to remember) |
| 06:39.36 | liable | billyt: did you install with the etch installer? |
| 06:39.45 | billyt | no sarge then updated to etch |
| 06:39.45 | cr3 | I'm running screen in an xterm and, when I resize the xterm, the applications within screen still seem to have the old size. is there some screen command to reset all windows to use the new size? |
| 06:39.49 | TBBle | Isn't that "Tom's Really Tiny Boot Disk"? |
| 06:39.52 | DaveLib | google "tomsrtbt" and go to their web site |
| 06:40.01 | enorbet | could also use just about any Live CD |
| 06:40.19 | DaveLib | tbble: maybe i thot i rememered reading what i said but who knows |
| 06:40.24 | enorbet | Knoppix, PHLAK, SLaX, etc |
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| 06:40.31 | liable | cr3: c-a Z? |
| 06:41.05 | DaveLib | billyt: from the web site you find you can download the stuff |
| 06:41.38 | billyt | yeah but i don't have access to a floppy or USB Key right now (i know unprepared) |
| 06:41.44 | DaveLib | billyt: so i am trying to remember when i did this you get a tar file i think |
| 06:41.51 | TBBle | DaveLib: You could be right. He actually says in the FAQ something much longer, but underlines Tom'sm root and boot |
| 06:41.52 | cr3 | liable: nope, that didn't quite work. still the same problem. |
| 06:41.54 | enorbet | billyt, get a Live CD iso then |
| 06:42.00 | TBBle | Erk |
| 06:42.08 | billyt | i have DSL |
| 06:42.14 | billyt | damn small linux |
| 06:42.20 | chealer | TBBle: no |
| 06:42.22 | DaveLib | billyt: ok from toms the final thing is to make a boot floppy |
| 06:42.40 | billyt | i don't have a floppy drive in this machine which sux |
| 06:42.53 | enorbet | billyt, you have CD? |
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| 06:42.57 | billyt | yeah |
| 06:43.01 | TBBle | cr3: Detach and reattach the screen session. Then have a look in the screen manual for the way to avoid that... You may have to turn on checkwinsize in bash. |
| 06:43.05 | enorbet | billyt, there ya go |
| 06:43.10 | DaveLib | billyt: ok so maybe you could make a live cd knoppix or ubuntu |
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| 06:43.25 | billyt | i have a live disk of Damn Small Linux |
| 06:43.31 | DaveLib | billyt: or lots of others |
| 06:43.34 | TBBle | Dang. |
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| 06:43.44 | enorbet | use whichever has the tools you need |
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| 06:44.08 | billyt | well i came here after not being able to access the HDD from DSL |
| 06:44.28 | enorbet | did you try to mount it? |
| 06:44.28 | dvm1981 | liable: in screen he do it automatically not ? by my it's the case, when i work in a shell, he not refresh the sceen when i resize it. in screen he do it auto |
| 06:44.29 | DaveLib | billyt: but when you try to boot into your regular system are you offered a shell? |
| 06:44.52 | DaveLib | or else if not you could use damn small linux |
| 06:45.13 | dvm1981 | liable: a nice feature :-) |
| 06:45.14 | billyt | how do i mount it (sorry i am a bit of a noob) |
| 06:45.25 | DaveLib | either from your rescuer shell or from dsl |
| 06:45.29 | enorbet | billyt, I don't know bout DSL but not all Live CD;s automount |
| 06:45.34 | billyt | only when i modify the boot then i get the maintenance shell |
| 06:46.05 | liable | billyt: when did this actually start happening? have you still got the 2.6.8 kernel installed? |
| 06:46.19 | billyt | no 2.6.8 kernel is gone.. this happened tonight |
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| 06:46.31 | enorbet | billyt, "man mount" at prompt is best ot google a how to mount but basically it is a command at console such as "mount -t foo" |
| 06:46.33 | liable | after doing what? |
| 06:46.36 | billyt | i gotta get it back live asap or I am screwed its a game server for a LAN Party |
| 06:46.38 | DaveLib | when you are the maintenence shell is your main partition mounted? |
| 06:46.56 | billyt | it happend after a reboot |
| 06:47.14 | billyt | it's mounted read only but i can mount it full access |
| 06:47.18 | liable | yes, but what had you done? upgraded shit or what? |
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| 06:47.52 | billyt | yeah updated gcc to gcc 3.3 |
| 06:47.57 | enorbet | billyt, read only is default mount for single user console, read write occurs usually at multiuser levels |
| 06:48.13 | DaveLib | anyway if you can access that main partition 1st check for /dev/console |
| 06:48.26 | billyt | yeah it tells me i can remout it by typing mount -n -o remount,rw / |
| 06:48.29 | DaveLib | because that was your error message |
| 06:48.30 | enorbet | billyt, for example it is bad to run fsck on read-write mounts |
| 06:48.47 | enorbet | should only be on read only |
| 06:49.02 | billyt | nope no console |
| 06:49.13 | DaveLib | hey maybe if you do fsck that would help |
| 06:49.26 | billyt | done a fsck.. no help man |
| 06:49.32 | enorbet | yeah at least you'd get an error mesg if not |
| 06:49.38 | deadcat | is there no way to clear the jobs in CUPS? |
| 06:49.41 | enorbet | you did e2fsck? |
| 06:49.44 | billyt | yes |
| 06:49.56 | DaveLib | ok i have /dev/console on my sarge and your error message was no /dev/conso |
| 06:50.02 | liable | billyt: mount the drive, chroot to it, cd /dev, MAKEDEV generic |
| 06:50.06 | billyt | found minor errors but didn't fix my problem |
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| 06:50.22 | enorbet | billyt, sorry I am coming in late but is your only problem not being able to startx? |
| 06:50.48 | DaveLib | enorbet: billyt is getting a kernel panic when he tries to reboot |
| 06:50.55 | enorbet | ahhh |
| 06:51.17 | DaveLib | he gets an error message just before: no /dev/console |
| 06:51.29 | enorbet | so the only console he's seeing is from DSL I take it |
| 06:51.38 | enorbet | gotcha |
| 06:51.51 | billyt | says no support for generic on this arch |
| 06:52.00 | DaveLib | billyt: are you in DSL now? |
| 06:52.04 | billyt | no |
| 06:52.15 | DaveLib | on another computer? |
| 06:52.21 | billyt | i am at the maintnance console on the actual debian build |
| 06:52.27 | DaveLib | ahhh ok |
| 06:52.27 | liable | billyt: ok, MAKEDEV console |
| 06:52.49 | billyt | no errors |
| 06:52.54 | Newck | anyone instal VLC via apt? |
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| 06:53.02 | DaveLib | do /ls /dev/console |
| 06:53.08 | DaveLib | oops ls |
| 06:53.09 | Guerin | Newck: lots of peeople who don't use testing |
| 06:53.10 | liable | billyt: check to see if its there, try a reboot. |
| 06:53.33 | Newck | i'm on unstable and packages seem broken |
| 06:53.34 | billyt | not there says no such file or directory |
| 06:53.43 | DaveLib | ??? |
| 06:53.48 | Guerin | Newck: it's unstable, what did you expect? |
| 06:53.50 | liable | just ls /dev |
| 06:53.54 | Newck | heh.. of course |
| 06:54.08 | enorbet | Newck, that's a joke I'm sure |
| 06:54.15 | billyt | to much stuff to see it |
| 06:54.15 | enorbet | unstable works fine |
| 06:54.24 | Guerin | enorbet: until it breaks. |
| 06:54.34 | enorbet | just like everything else |
| 06:54.34 | Guerin | enorbet: which it does regularly and wwithout warning. |
| 06:54.39 | liable | billyt: ls /dev |grep console |
| 06:54.41 | enorbet | bah |
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| 06:55.14 | DaveLib | could billyt manully create /dev/console linked to some other suitable device? |
| 06:55.22 | Newck | i had hoped the vlc people were ready for unstable's changes |
| 06:55.28 | Guerin | DaveLib: did he try MAKEDEV like liable suggested? |
| 06:55.34 | billyt | liable doesn't show anything except the same files |
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| 06:55.42 | xerophyte | for system admins works .. is python or perl is good ?? |
| 06:55.51 | Guerin | Newck: tried installing a vlc nightly build? |
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| 06:55.54 | Guerin | xerophyte: yes. |
| 06:55.56 | Newck | not yet |
| 06:56.00 | enorbet | Newck, never trust hopes on unstable, research only |
| 06:56.06 | Guerin | Newck: nightlies.videolan.org |
| 06:56.10 | DaveLib | guerin: yes he did and it said no errors then right after he tried ls /dev/console and it didnt exist |
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| 06:56.21 | Guerin | DaveLib: right-o. |
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| 06:56.36 | DaveLib | so: wtf is that ???? |
| 06:56.36 | liable | billyt: you did remount / rw? |
| 06:56.42 | billyt | yes |
| 06:56.52 | billyt | rebooting right quick see what happens |
| 06:56.53 | xerophyte | Guerin, which is good ?? |
| 06:57.13 | Guerin | xerophyte: both, but probably more important than either is sh. |
| 06:57.21 | billyt | still the panic so going to boot into DSL |
| 06:57.31 | enorbet | Newck, have you tried building from src? |
| 06:57.38 | xerophyte | Guerin, so you are saying you should know both |
| 06:57.52 | Guerin | xerophyte: in a perfect world you should know everything. |
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| 06:58.33 | DaveLib | so does anyone know details about communications X clients to servers and related |
| 06:58.52 | billyt | anything i can do from a debian live install disk??? besides reload |
| 06:58.58 | Guerin | DaveLib: be more specific |
| 06:58.58 | liable | billyt: you can rescue from the disk. |
| 06:59.01 | xerophyte | Guerin, i mean for a average system admin |
| 06:59.04 | billyt | oh how? |
| 06:59.19 | liable | billyt: let it run until the partition page, switch to VT2 and mount from there. |
| 06:59.29 | liable | then chroot.. |
| 06:59.40 | DaveLib | guerin: i am tryiong to run 2 packages from etch and sid with my main install and everything else being sarge |
| 06:59.40 | Guerin | !test |
| 06:59.40 | dpkg | Sorry, guerin, I didn't get your test. |
| 06:59.42 | billyt | k |
| 06:59.46 | enorbet | "if you build it, it'll come" |
| 06:59.50 | Guerin | xerophyte: there's no such thing as an average sysadmin |
| 07:00.10 | Guerin | DaveLib: don't. |
| 07:00.25 | DaveLib | i tried a straight install of the 2 packages into my sarge |
| 07:00.26 | Guerin | DaveLib: you'll break lots of shit, and want to cry. |
| 07:00.38 | billyt | dam i need to label disks |
| 07:00.40 | Guerin | DaveLib: /msg dpkg backports |
| 07:00.51 | DaveLib | guerin: right i saw that was coming so i didnt finally install them |
| 07:01.00 | DaveLib | thanks guerin |
| 07:01.05 | Guerin | DaveLib: OMG - you read the error messages!!!? |
| 07:01.06 | bucky | i vote for perl |
| 07:01.09 | Newck | enorbet: was hoping to get away without that :) |
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| 07:01.30 | enorbet | Newck, you could use "checkinstall" and create a deb file you could share with everyone else on unstable |
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| 07:01.36 | billyt | liable how do i switch to VT2 |
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| 07:01.44 | enorbet | billyt, numerous tools are available on most install cd's, but if you're in a hurry and this isn't that old an install why not save out your /root and /home directories and re-install if you're totally stuck? |
| 07:01.46 | liable | billyt: alt + F2 |
| 07:01.47 | Guerin | billyt: ctrl+alt+f2 |
| 07:02.15 | DaveLib | guerin: yes i invoked the programs from a shell and the error mesages wen to the shell |
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| 07:02.16 | deadcat | anyone mess with a usb sim card reader before? |
| 07:02.30 | dvm1981 | depending of running in x or not, if in x add the ctrl |
| 07:02.32 | Guerin | deadcat: no, you're making history. |
| 07:02.34 | billyt | ok at the console |
| 07:02.44 | deadcat | Guerin: i dont have one |
| 07:02.51 | Guerin | deadcat: think of yourself as one of the great pioneers of the digital age. |
| 07:02.54 | Guerin | oh. |
| 07:02.55 | enorbet | Newck, well unstable benefits from src building, much safer |
| 07:02.59 | billyt | i am not in a super hurry |
| 07:03.01 | Guerin | deadcat: scratch that, then. |
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| 07:03.04 | billyt | just need it tomorrow |
| 07:03.04 | DaveLib | guerin: the other night xoz here on #debian suggested i debootstrap sid into a /sid directory inside my sarge |
| 07:03.18 | enorbet | k |
| 07:03.27 | Guerin | DaveLib: that's bloody hard work, but safe. What packages? |
| 07:03.29 | liable | billyt: mkdir /rescue; mount /dev/discs/disc0/part? /rescue; chroot rescue |
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| 07:03.47 | DaveLib | guerin: so put a minimal sid installation into /sid and chroot to it to run the apps |
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| 07:04.04 | DaveLib | make them talk to my main X server from sarge in / |
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| 07:04.27 | DaveLib | so the other apps talk to their libraries in /sid |
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| 07:04.41 | DaveLib | and my basic sarge in / is safe |
| 07:04.57 | billyt | can not execute bin/sh: no such file or directory |
| 07:05.11 | Guerin | DaveLib: as I said; really hard work. depending on the packages, BFS is probably easier, and finding pbackports is probably even easier than. |
| 07:05.21 | Guerin | billyt: trying to do what? |
| 07:05.23 | liable | billyt: did the mount work? |
| 07:05.35 | liable | chroot i guess. |
| 07:05.39 | billyt | ok how do i mount the drive i might have missed that |
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| 07:06.04 | dominicano | dvm1981, guten tag |
| 07:06.05 | liable | billyt: see my previous comment. |
| 07:06.05 | billyt | yes doing the above mkdir /rescue; mount ........ |
| 07:06.09 | billyt | is wheni got the error |
| 07:06.12 | DaveLib | guerin: i didnt get an answer back from dpkg when i come here to freenode it tells me i cant send private messages |
| 07:06.16 | dvm1981 | dominicano: bonjour |
| 07:06.36 | liable | billyt: did you change part? to your partition number? |
| 07:06.43 | Guerin | DaveLib: /msg nickserv help register |
| 07:06.43 | billyt | oh sorry |
| 07:06.44 | liable | like part1? |
| 07:06.59 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Voila, i have another cup ;-) |
| 07:07.00 | dominicano | !gstreamer |
| 07:07.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, gstreamer is not a cool multimedia framework because it crashes 24/7 on sarge |
| 07:07.02 | billyt | sorry |
| 07:07.05 | billyt | got it now |
| 07:07.13 | Guerin | !botsnack |
| 07:07.13 | dpkg | Guerin: :) |
| 07:07.23 | dominicano | dvm1981, jejeje Great! |
| 07:07.32 | liable | heh, that went missing for a whils. |
| 07:07.37 | billyt | ok i am in! |
| 07:07.45 | enorbet | yeehaw |
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| 07:08.00 | dominicano | dvm1981, I sayed "guten-tag" and the somebody kickme |
| 07:08.24 | dominicano | dvm1981, ohh no, it just was a split |
| 07:08.24 | liable | billyt: try the MAKEDEV shits again |
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| 07:09.45 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I try to setup exim4 but im to stupid to understand it, ppff reportbug not work now, an i have found 2 bugs in the 'Debian-reference-en' |
| 07:09.56 | billyt | ok new error warning: can't read /proc/devices |
| 07:10.20 | dominicano | dvm1981, did you report theses bugs? |
| 07:11.21 | dominicano | dvm1981, ok, sorry for ask, now i undestand |
| 07:11.26 | dvm1981 | dominicano: The first one yes, but it's waiting in the quee list (mailq), so it's not send because Exim4 are not good set up |
| 07:11.42 | liable | billyt: mount /proc |
| 07:11.51 | DaveLib | guerin: ok i got the backports msg from dpkg thx |
| 07:11.56 | billyt | ok done |
| 07:12.06 | dvm1981 | !bts |
| 07:12.29 | dvm1981 | i have no more rights to ask :-( |
| 07:12.53 | dvm1981 | fucking bots |
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| 07:13.43 | billyt | running a MAKEDEV generic |
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| 07:13.52 | dvm1981 | Ok right i go alone, i know that ... |
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| 07:14.01 | enorbet | taken over the world lately Pinky? |
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| 07:14.15 | enorbet | ;) |
| 07:14.38 | billyt | it completed the MAKEDEV generic but still no console folder |
| 07:14.51 | PinkysBrain | Nope, NARF |
| 07:14.53 | DaveLib | guerin: i read the backports msg and also simple sid backports |
| 07:14.57 | enorbet | hehe |
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| 07:15.30 | bastard | !test |
| 07:15.30 | dpkg | Yes, bastard, you're still online. |
| 07:15.32 | liable | billyt: what command to check are you running? |
| 07:15.43 | billyt | ls /dev/console |
| 07:16.10 | liable | and it come back empty? |
| 07:16.26 | billyt | it comes back saying it is not there |
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| 07:16.38 | DaveLib | guerin: so apt-get -b source packagename that puts a source deb onto my computer? |
| 07:16.40 | liable | ls /dev |grep cons |
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| 07:16.45 | dvm1981 | !test |
| 07:16.51 | PinkysBrain | Trying to profile xmove instead ... anyone have a clue why 60-75% of the time while running my program is spend in [0xffffe410]? (That's SYSENTER_RETURN in the linux kernel) |
| 07:16.51 | dvm1981 | ok i have understand ... |
| 07:16.58 | Guerin | DaveLib: in unpacks the source and builds it, yeah |
| 07:17.01 | liable | hah |
| 07:17.25 | DaveLib | guerin: so it compiles and everything results in binaries on my computer? |
| 07:17.29 | marudubshinki | Question: the reason apt-get doesn't add in apt-listbugs' functionality is because it would impede scripting and add features, right? |
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| 07:17.40 | billyt | here is a thought from here could i just regrab the kernel and install it again? |
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| 07:17.44 | liable | billyt: you did cd to /dev first? |
| 07:17.50 | billyt | yes |
| 07:18.07 | enorbet | that shouldn't matter |
| 07:18.10 | Guerin | DaveLib: yeah, if it has all the correct libs and so on |
| 07:18.15 | Shins | hola amigos, alguien sabe como puedo modificar comandos? como por ejemplo purge, dir etc |
| 07:18.18 | DaveLib | guerin: wow |
| 07:18.27 | Guerin | Shins: #debian-es, por favor |
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| 07:18.32 | billyt | if i do a ls console it shows below the command line console then shows trhe cmannd line again |
| 07:18.38 | tuv | the dhcp client delays the boot process especially when a dhcp server cannot be found, how can i prevent it from delaying boot, e.g. make it run in the background? |
| 07:18.44 | Shins | ok |
| 07:18.51 | enorbet | that means it is there |
| 07:19.06 | DaveLib | guerin: ahh ok the correct libs are in the download it is using its own version of the libs not the ones on my sarge? |
| 07:19.31 | liable | billyt: try MAKEDEV console one more time |
| 07:19.31 | enorbet | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:19.31 | billyt | if i do ls /dev/console it shows that then returns to command line... but if i try to do cd console from within the dev folder it says it doesn't exisit |
| 07:19.31 | enorbet | it is a file |
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| 07:19.45 | billyt | console not a directory |
| 07:19.52 | liable | billyt: you cant cd to it, cause it isnt a directory |
| 07:20.04 | billyt | aaah ok well i think it is there then |
| 07:20.07 | DaveLib | guerin: before trying the chroot version i went and found deb's for the packkages on thier own web sites |
| 07:20.07 | Guerin | DaveLib: you only have a deb-src line for sid, right? not a deb line? |
| 07:20.17 | billyt | if i do ls /dev/console it sees it |
| 07:20.19 | enorbet | hmmmm |
| 07:20.19 | enorbet | thats' totally weird |
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| 07:20.38 | DaveLib | guerin: i dont remember what file do i check? |
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| 07:20.59 | enorbet | wait billyt did you do "ls console" from "/dev" ? |
| 07:20.59 | enorbet | you can't change to a file |
| 07:21.01 | Guerin | DaveLib: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:21.04 | enorbet | msg should be "not a directory" |
| 07:21.05 | liable | billyt: see how you go with a reboot |
| 07:21.25 | DaveLib | guerin: thx .... checking .... |
| 07:21.46 | billyt | nope still panics |
| 07:21.58 | tuv | how to speed up boot when dhcp client is running on boot? |
| 07:22.21 | enorbet | billyt, did you try "dmesg"? |
| 07:22.42 | billyt | where do i do the dmesg |
| 07:22.43 | DaveLib | guerin: i do presently have a deb unstable there |
| 07:22.53 | enorbet | billyt, at any prompt |
| 07:22.54 | Guerin | DaveLib: ok, kill the download and remove it |
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| 07:23.29 | enorbet | it will give you a full list of boot events |
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| 07:23.29 | Guerin | DaveLib: then run apt-get update, and do the simple sid packports thing again |
| 07:23.39 | DaveLib | guerin: i havent downloaded anything as we havbe been talking tonight i was talking about an old download last week |
| 07:23.42 | nima | do i have to restart gnome to get new applets to work? |
| 07:23.49 | Guerin | oh, ok. |
| 07:23.54 | DaveLib | guerin: should i remove sid debs from the file ? |
| 07:23.59 | enorbet | billyt, you can use "dmesg |more" if you pass by the panic |
| 07:24.01 | enorbet | make sure exactly what the panic is about |
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| 07:24.03 | tuv | dhcp client slows down boot, how to make it faster? |
| 07:24.07 | Guerin | DaveLib: no need. |
| 07:24.26 | nima | i installed some new applets, and theyre not showing up |
| 07:24.27 | Guerin | tuv: don't use it. |
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| 07:24.36 | Guerin | nima: so restart gnome and see. |
| 07:24.41 | nima | indeed |
| 07:24.47 | tuv | Guerin: this is not a solution to my problem |
| 07:24.51 | DaveLib | guerin: i dont presently have any src lines in the file |
| 07:25.05 | Guerin | tuv: how does it slow things down? |
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| 07:25.14 | Guerin | DaveLib: ok. change the deb line to deb-src |
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| 07:25.39 | tuv | Guerin: if there is no dhcp server, everything waits for the client to time out |
| 07:25.53 | DaveLib | guerin: ahh at the start of the line the deb there to deb-src |
| 07:26.00 | Guerin | tuv: so my advice stands: if you don't need dhcp, don't use it. |
| 07:26.06 | Guerin | DaveLib: yes. |
| 07:26.10 | liable | billyt: boot the installer and mount and chroot again |
| 07:26.14 | billyt | ok its doing a file system check again on me hang on |
| 07:26.16 | DaveLib | guerin: so can i copy that line and leave my original deb line there too? |
| 07:26.19 | nima | any way to restart gnome without losing running applications? |
| 07:26.59 | nima | like how icewm lets you hit a reload button |
| 07:27.03 | Guerin | DaveLib: if you have a deb line for unstable, you'll end up running unstable. You only want a deb-src line, to get source packages from unstable, but not binaries. |
| 07:27.07 | DaveLib | nima: when you shutdown gnome cant you ask it to save the session? |
| 07:27.14 | nima | good idea |
| 07:27.16 | Guerin | nima: dunno. |
| 07:27.27 | tuv | Guerin: your advice is very valuable, especially the condition in it.. i do need it, but i want a general-purpose setup: when there is a dhcp server use it, when there isn't don't show me you're waiting, just wait in the background or something |
| 07:27.31 | nima | ill try DaveLib's idea |
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| 07:27.48 | Guerin | tuv: install laptop-net |
| 07:27.52 | DaveLib | guerin: ok i will change the unstable deb to deb-src |
| 07:28.07 | liable | tuv: ifplugd |
| 07:28.14 | Guerin | tuv: i think it contains scripts and such to figure this sort of stuff out |
| 07:28.18 | tuv | liable: it's a wireless interface |
| 07:28.38 | DaveLib | guerin: btw my main repositiory was flaky for a while so i put several in with my main one listed first |
| 07:28.46 | liable | tuv: waproamd or wpa-supplicant then |
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| 07:29.01 | DaveLib | guerin: so later in the file i have another deb unstable from another repository |
| 07:29.10 | gau | is there something similar to isobuster in linux ? |
| 07:29.23 | tuv | liable: wpasupplicant manages association to different networks in the MAC layer.. it knows nothing about ip (network layer) |
| 07:29.26 | billyt | holy fcsk it booted into the GUI!!!! |
| 07:29.27 | Guerin | DaveLib: ok, remove ALL deb lines for unstable, unless you want to run unstable, which at your current level of ability, you don't. |
| 07:29.30 | gau | i have a drive thats always unhappy with certain sectors of the videocds that i have ... |
| 07:29.33 | Newck | so i finally get this bt848 card working, and first thing i see is a Cialis commercial... |
| 07:29.53 | DaveLib | guerin: i can just comment them out with # right? |
| 07:29.58 | Guerin | DaveLib: sure |
| 07:30.08 | DaveLib | billyt: great! so your problem is solved? |
| 07:30.17 | DaveLib | guerin: thanks |
| 07:30.24 | billyt | maybe |
| 07:30.43 | enorbet | billyt, so what was it? |
| 07:30.47 | billyt | i would have to reboot again |
| 07:30.49 | billyt | to verify |
| 07:30.53 | enorbet | just the missing /dev/console? |
| 07:31.02 | billyt | i think so just a second |
| 07:31.06 | enorbet | coo |
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| 07:31.16 | DaveLib | billyt: i missed some of the discussion you had paying attention to other threads so as enorbet says what was the problem ie what seemed to fix it? |
| 07:31.21 | tuv | Guerin: i think laptop-net can run dhcp for some configurations and not run it for others, i do want dhcp client to run always, but i don't want other processes in the boot to wait for it |
| 07:31.22 | billyt | maybe |
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| 07:31.51 | DaveLib | nima: did the save gnome session work? |
| 07:32.07 | billyt | hang on now when i look at the boot append editor in the GUI shouldn't it have stuff in the other parameters field??? |
| 07:32.09 | nima | its really shitty, DaveLib |
| 07:32.27 | billyt | i remember it did in the past and now it doesn't |
| 07:32.33 | nima | but partially, yes |
| 07:32.37 | Guerin | tuv: oh, ok. You could hack on the dhcp init script to make it run in the background |
| 07:32.46 | TBBle | Hmm. Is there a best-practices guide or script somewhere for integrating wpa-supplicant into /etc/network/interfaces, like iwconfig is? |
| 07:33.12 | Guerin | tuv: the danger is that you create a race condition where the system doesn't yet know if the network is up, which could cause trouble with other services. |
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| 07:33.34 | billyt | and also shouldn't enable IDE SCSI emulation be checked with a check next to /dev/hda |
| 07:34.00 | TBBle | tuv: From what it sounds like you want (sorry, didn't catch the whole conversation) pre-up-ing wpasupplicant in /etc/network/interfaces in the wlan0 stanza and setting it dhcp and auto might be what you want. |
| 07:34.32 | billyt | ??? |
| 07:34.45 | tuv | TBBle: actually this is exactly what i already have now! |
| 07:34.48 | liable | billyt: 2.6 doesnt do ide-scsi emulation |
| 07:34.59 | billyt | really |
| 07:35.17 | liable | billyt: can you paste your grub menu list to a paster? |
| 07:35.56 | liable | billyt: and the output from fdisk -l /dev/hda or sda if scsi/sata |
| 07:36.19 | billyt | Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.12-1-k7 |
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| 07:36.44 | billyt | debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.12-1-k7 (recovery mode |
| 07:36.46 | billyt | ) |
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| 07:36.51 | tuv | Guerin: hmm.. sounds like i have to wait for it to time out.. too bad |
| 07:37.10 | billyt | liable just running a plain old IDE drive |
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| 07:37.24 | liable | billyt: ok, nm then |
| 07:37.35 | Migmig | I try to move files from a NTFS drive mounted in linux to a windows machine with an FTPd |
| 07:37.39 | Migmig | but the files seem to change |
| 07:37.44 | Migmig | how can I avoid that? |
| 07:38.11 | Migmig | any ideas ? |
| 07:38.16 | billyt | i know i had to add the root=/dev/hda to the end of the loader in grub to boot to the GUI |
| 07:38.35 | enorbet | Migmig, errr format c: ? |
| 07:38.42 | enorbet | just jokin |
| 07:38.46 | Migmig | :S |
| 07:38.51 | billyt | err root=/dev/hda1 |
| 07:38.55 | liable | billyt: /boot/grub/menu.lst and fdisk -l /dev/hda to a paster |
| 07:39.03 | liable | !paste |
| 07:39.03 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 07:39.09 | Migmig | enorbet, got any idea what the problem is ? |
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| 07:39.21 | Migmig | because I'm in a serious situation here |
| 07:39.30 | Migmig | I gotta get this going soon :S |
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| 07:39.41 | enorbet | Migmig, not exactly since NTFS writing has bugs still afaik |
| 07:39.52 | billyt | permission denied |
| 07:39.52 | Migmig | I'm not writing to NTFS ... |
| 07:39.59 | Migmig | I'm reading from it |
| 07:40.03 | Migmig | and sending out to FTP |
| 07:40.04 | epsilon | Migmig: what kind of error? |
| 07:40.13 | Migmig | epsilon, the files seem to change |
| 07:40.16 | Migmig | there's no error |
| 07:40.23 | epsilon | Migmig: NTFS is mounted read only? |
| 07:40.24 | Migmig | but for example ... binaries don't run anymore |
| 07:40.24 | enorbet | what kinda change? |
| 07:40.26 | liable | billyt: doing what? please be a bit more specific, so i dont have to keep asking you shit. |
| 07:40.39 | Migmig | or newline chars change in text documents |
| 07:40.43 | tilrman | Migmig: are you using ascii ftp when you should be using binary? |
| 07:40.49 | Migmig | I tried both |
| 07:40.57 | billyt | when typing what you posted above /boot/grub.menu.lst gave me permission denied |
| 07:41.07 | billyt | when typing what you posted above /boot/grub/menu.lst gave me permission denied |
| 07:41.11 | epsilon | Migmig: try force binary transfer |
| 07:41.21 | Migmig | I think all it does it binary |
| 07:41.30 | Migmig | unless I tell it to do ASCII |
| 07:41.36 | billyt | i am logged in as root |
| 07:41.40 | Migmig | I'm using gFTP |
| 07:42.05 | liable | billyt: no, i want the output from that file. so either view and paste from a file manager or use cat /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 07:42.48 | nima | hmmm, still nothing |
| 07:43.09 | billyt | ok and just paste it here? |
| 07:43.47 | liable | billyt: no |
| 07:43.50 | enorbet | Migmig, is the only prob binaries? |
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| 07:43.59 | liable | billyt: can you open a web browser? |
| 07:44.24 | Migmig | enorbet, seems to be any kind of files |
| 07:44.31 | billyt | yeah i found channels.debian.net/paste |
| 07:44.34 | epsilon | Migmig: shouldn't happen, but it's maybe faster if you use NFS |
| 07:44.42 | Migmig | hmm |
| 07:44.46 | enorbet | Migmig, what is changed i other files...like txt files for example? |
| 07:44.49 | Migmig | How can I do that? |
| 07:45.02 | Migmig | enorbet, the newline chars at the end of each line |
| 07:45.07 | epsilon | read the NFS howto |
| 07:45.09 | billyt | liable http://channels.debian.net/paste/1662 |
| 07:45.10 | Migmig | it's visible in notepad |
| 07:45.22 | Migmig | but it works fine in wordpad |
| 07:45.26 | Migmig | it's strange |
| 07:45.34 | Migmig | no matter which ftp client I use it happens |
| 07:45.57 | liable | billyt: theres only half the file there |
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| 07:46.06 | Migmig | The only place I haven't seen it happen is : IRC's file transfer |
| 07:46.10 | TBBle | tuv: Hence my earlier question of is there a better way to integrate... I suspect telling wpa_supplicant to grab the interface when it comes up, so you can ifup and ifdown it, and have wpa_supplicant take care of the 802.11 for you underneath, although you'd then need a way to delay DHCP until the link layer is up. (As opposed to interface up, which is particularly different in 802.11) |
| 07:46.11 | Migmig | I wish I could use it ... |
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| 07:46.25 | liable | billyt: paste the output from fdisk -l /dev/hda too |
| 07:46.44 | tilrman | Migmig: on which machine is the ftp server running? |
| 07:46.45 | Migmig | It happened when I tried to move using apache as well |
| 07:46.53 | Migmig | tilrman, the windows machine |
| 07:47.13 | tilrman | Migmig: so you are doing an ftp put from the linux ftp client? |
| 07:47.19 | Migmig | yeah |
| 07:47.25 | Migmig | I could reverse the process though :P |
| 07:47.31 | Migmig | let me see how that turns out |
| 07:47.35 | ACU07 | Greetings ---- I need some help --- If I want to see a webcast - I press the buton to play - and I get a message: AN external application must be launched to handle rtsp: links ----- Below I DO NOT HAVE the CHOICE of what application to lunch ---- Is this the mplugger (or how you call it ) and how can I make it SO I CAN CHOOSE what application I want to use |
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| 07:48.24 | Migmig | where is ftpd ? |
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| 07:48.56 | epsilon | you mean ftpd package in debian? |
| 07:48.56 | Migmig | I tried to install pureftpd but it said ftpd was there so it couldn't do it |
| 07:49.13 | Migmig | now I can't find ftpd :P |
| 07:49.30 | Migmig | never mind |
| 07:49.42 | blahdeblah | Hi all! Anyone out there running LDAP for authentication in a small- to medium-sized *production* environment for Samba, mail, web apps, etc.? |
| 07:49.53 | Migmig | gah it's still can't find it |
| 07:50.04 | Migmig | anyone have a good ftpd in mind ? |
| 07:50.08 | Migmig | a trustworthy one? |
| 07:50.09 | TBBle | blahdeblah: Does Active Directory from a Win2K server count? |
| 07:50.16 | blahdeblah | Migmig: vsftpd |
| 07:50.24 | billyt | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1663 look now |
| 07:50.26 | TBBle | Migmig: Pureftpd? |
| 07:50.27 | blahdeblah | TBBle: This is #debian... :-) |
| 07:50.41 | phycho | lol |
| 07:50.42 | enorbet | Migmig, too bad both aren't Linux so you could rsync it |
| 07:50.44 | TBBle | blahdeblah: My Debian box authenticates to the domain... |
| 07:50.45 | kristalino | is it a good idea to install mysql 5 / php 5 ? |
| 07:50.57 | blahdeblah | TBBle: ... with Debian as the server. :-) |
| 07:51.20 | TBBle | blahdeblah: Ah. Not yet, although saw a Samba 4 Tech Preview demo the other day, and it was pants-pooping-happiness time. |
| 07:51.27 | Migmig | grrr |
| 07:51.42 | epsilon | Migmig: if you want no extra feature and for users on local shell: use simple one and not overloaded one like proftpd |
| 07:51.50 | TBBle | kristalino: Depends on what you mean by good idea, and in fact a whole bunch of other circumstances. |
| 07:52.00 | billyt | liable is that everything you wanted? |
| 07:52.00 | Migmig | I just want a simple one |
| 07:52.01 | blahdeblah | TBBle: grumble, qualification after qualification. I want it to run on Debian Sarge. :-) |
| 07:52.04 | Migmig | very simple |
| 07:52.15 | liable | billyt: right, open menu.lst in an editer and change (hd0,0) to (hd1,0) |
| 07:52.18 | blahdeblah | Migmig: vsftpd is very simple and secure |
| 07:52.21 | liable | billyt: in your kernel lines |
| 07:52.23 | enorbet | Migmig, do console ftp |
| 07:52.37 | TBBle | Migmig: If you're trying to do virtual mysql-based FTP hosting, I like pureftpd, I think the SQL module was more flexible than proftpd. |
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| 07:52.52 | epsilon | or use Samba for linux -> linux *run away* |
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| 07:53.09 | TBBle | blahdeblah: Since no one else is answering, either they're not or are ignoring questions that start with "anyone..." as many people here do. |
| 07:53.16 | liable | billyt: also the line that says # groot=(hd0,0) change to (hd1,0) |
| 07:53.31 | giwe | What is the recommended cdburner with kde and testing? |
| 07:53.39 | enorbet | k3b |
| 07:53.43 | kristalino | TBBle, will the apps be compatible ... (for example) > |
| 07:53.44 | TBBle | blahdeblah: I'm sure someone'll backport Samba4 to Sarge. |
| 07:53.46 | kristalino | s? |
| 07:53.50 | blahdeblah | TBBle: <g> How do you suggest i ask in a way that attracts people? |
| 07:53.57 | billyt | done |
| 07:54.11 | giwe | enorbet, It looks like k3b is not available. |
| 07:54.14 | liable | billyt: reboot |
| 07:54.18 | enorbet | xcdroast? |
| 07:54.19 | blahdeblah | giwe: k3b even works well with Sarge and GNOME |
| 07:54.21 | billyt | k |
| 07:54.25 | liable | giwe: just use cdrecord |
| 07:54.34 | liable | billyt: sec |
| 07:54.40 | enorbet | gimf, or you could just build k3b from src |
| 07:54.47 | billyt | to late is rebooting |
| 07:54.51 | TBBle | blahdeblah: "I'm trying to set up LDAP-based authentication using pam_ldap. The ldap queries get to the server, but the server refused to accept the password. Is there an obvious thing I've missed, or a decent HOWTO on the topic that isn't indexed in google, where I've already looked" or similar. |
| 07:54.56 | giwe | I may try to build k3b. |
| 07:54.59 | billyt | going between 2 machines |
| 07:55.18 | giwe | I used to use cdrecord. |
| 07:55.27 | blahdeblah | TBBle: I'm not at the stage of asking those sort of questions yet. |
| 07:55.28 | TBBle | kristalino: Most likely, yes. Might be an idea to check the release notes for PHP5 and mySQL 5 just to be sure. |
| 07:55.34 | enorbet | they all use cdrecord...just frontends |
| 07:55.34 | tuv | TBBle: what i want ideally to happen is that wpasupplicant can trigger ip configuration since it already is detecting the network, so network-dependent ip configuration (which needs to identify the network) can use wpasupplicant's knowledge |
| 07:55.35 | liable | billyt: heh, i forgot to check one more thing.. you need to add root=/dev/hdb1 to your normal kernel line |
| 07:55.45 | giwe | Is k3b a frontend for cdrecord? |
| 07:55.50 | TBBle | blahdeblah: Then you're not gonna find a lot of help here. Google yourself up a HOWTO, and try it. |
| 07:55.57 | enorbet | i think so |
| 07:56.10 | billyt | k |
| 07:56.11 | TBBle | tuv: wpasupplicant calling ifup? That'd be _sweet_, now you mention it... |
| 07:56.15 | billyt | will fix it in a second |
| 07:56.20 | giwe | enorbet, okay. lemme find the source for k3b and try it. |
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| 07:56.31 | blahdeblah | TBBle: The HOWTO of the problem is not the issue. The feasibility of the overall solution is. |
| 07:56.34 | liable | billyt: recovery should work though |
| 07:57.16 | TBBle | blahdeblah: OK. In that case "I'm thinking of doing *blah*. There's some feasability problem I think I can see, but am unable to be sure... How do I deal with *otherblah*" |
| 07:57.23 | liable | giwe: just use cdrecord from the cli. |
| 07:57.38 | TBBle | blahdeblah: after *otherblah* add "which is not addressed in the HOWTO |
| 07:57.41 | TBBle | " |
| 07:57.42 | giwe | liable, what is cli? |
| 07:57.55 | billyt | yeah i gotta do a fsck again so waiting then i should be able to boot in and change the last little bit |
| 07:58.04 | giwe | liable, nevermind command line. |
| 07:58.11 | billyt | cux it paniced in the reboot |
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| 07:58.46 | giwe | liable, yeah I know. it is for someone else that needs a gui. |
| 07:59.04 | liable | giwe: it aint rocket science, cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc foo.iso |
| 07:59.07 | enorbet | giwe, cli is most flexible ansd sometimes faster but K3B is a good frontend for quick n easy |
| 07:59.23 | enorbet | and btw i just checked ans yes it is a frontend for cdrecord |
| 07:59.47 | liable | they all are front ends for cdrecord/growisofs |
| 07:59.48 | TBBle | If you could tell WPA_supplicant to call a script and substitute the SSID into it, it wouldn't be hard to have it end up calling "ifup wlan0=SSID_$SSID --allow=wpa-supplicant". |
| 08:00.28 | liable | TBBle: you can have as many ssid's in the conf as you like, and will try them all. |
| 08:00.35 | giwe | liable, yes but cli is just for us geeks ;) |
| 08:00.37 | liable | untill it succeeds |
| 08:00.45 | liable | giwe: :) |
| 08:01.06 | enorbet | liable, that is certainly true for basic work but if you want any special switches/controls it is faster, if less complete, to use a frontend |
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| 08:01.11 | giwe | liable, I myself use cdrecord and mkisofs etc. |
| 08:01.21 | TBBle | liable: I realise that. The point is when one of them connects, it calls ifup with the SSID, so you can put it in your /etc/network/interfaces as DHCP or the specific static IP etc, and have it all just work. |
| 08:01.44 | liable | TBBle: ah, i see, yeah, would be cool. |
| 08:02.16 | TBBle | Hmm. I've got a couple of days without obvious responsibilities, and no email connection. And the source of wpa_supplicant already lying on my hard disk. ^_^ |
| 08:02.47 | Migmig | well vsftpd compiled fine |
| 08:02.53 | Migmig | at least that's a start |
| 08:03.03 | TBBle | cli is not the best for every kind of work. For example, it's awful at... well, something I don't do, I presume. |
| 08:03.10 | enorbet | lol |
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| 08:03.34 | liable | enorbet: i wasnt saying that, just pointing out that cdrecord will do the job seeing as k3b isnt in etch atm... |
| 08:03.36 | kristalino | TBBle, yeap :) |
| 08:04.02 | enorbet | liable, I wasn't attacking, just pontificating ;) |
| 08:04.16 | enorbet | or deficating I dunno |
| 08:04.18 | billyt | jesus this fcsk is taking for ever |
| 08:04.22 | billyt | fsck |
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| 08:04.37 | TBBle | defecating? Or deficiting? |
| 08:04.41 | enorbet | nuthin like a long, slow fsck |
| 08:04.47 | billyt | no kidding |
| 08:04.55 | billyt | thanks all in advance of helping me here |
| 08:05.02 | billyt | i think it is almost fixed |
| 08:05.27 | enorbet | was sposd to be a sight gag |
| 08:05.40 | enorbet | or gag visual or summing |
| 08:05.47 | liable | TBBle: cant you just do a pre-up calling wpasup, then if it fails, go to next auto entry? |
| 08:05.51 | TBBle | Ah. Sorry, went right over my head. |
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| 08:06.52 | TBBle | liable: I'm currently pre-uping wpasupplicant (since I have to pre-up anyway to add the sta0 interface, evil devicescape...) but I don't tell it which network to associate with. The only two SSIDs in my config are in different countries. |
| 08:07.03 | billyt | god i am definately going to need a cig after this |
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| 08:07.39 | enorbet | so billyt had you lost data on this drive or what? |
| 08:08.02 | DaveLib | guerin: i just completed a source install of one of those packages ie apt-get -b source etc |
| 08:08.04 | billyt | no this is a Gameserver for a Large LAN Party in Wichita Kansas |
| 08:08.10 | liable | TBBle: but dont you have both sids in its conf and it'll try one then the next? |
| 08:08.23 | enorbet | billyt, how'd you lose /dev/console then? |
| 08:08.25 | billyt | the event is tomorrow i got it dumped in my lap last week to update it and. boom |
| 08:08.34 | billyt | i dunno man |
| 08:08.44 | DaveLib | guerin: the dpkg instructions said install the resulting debs |
| 08:08.47 | billyt | it has a GUI |
| 08:08.53 | billyt | i don't work in GUI |
| 08:08.54 | enorbet | billyt, so was that all that was panic? |
| 08:08.56 | DaveLib | guerin: ie as the next step |
| 08:09.02 | liable | enorbet: his kopt line was fuxored in menu.lst and a kernel upgrade changed his kernel lines. |
| 08:09.07 | billyt | yes that was it for the panic |
| 08:09.11 | enorbet | ahhhhh! |
| 08:09.44 | liable | err, groot line.. |
| 08:09.49 | billyt | hey liable where do i add the root=/dev/hb1 at??? |
| 08:09.51 | TBBle | liable: Yeah, but I ifup them differently 'cause one's DHCP and one's static IP. So they end up with the same wpa_supplicant call, which is backwards. wpa_supplicant should be a daemon, hotplugging network interfaces like ifplugd does. |
| 08:09.55 | enorbet | one benefit of doing kernels manually eh? |
| 08:11.07 | billyt | and what about the initrd image path? |
| 08:11.28 | liable | TBBle: i do run it as a daemon from init.d networks comes up, then wpasup. |
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| 08:11.47 | gozz | anyone here use vmware in debian? i have a very old version 4.0.5.6030 will this work? |
| 08:12.05 | liable | billyt: is ok. |
| 08:12.29 | TBBle | liable: Uh? You run which as a daemon? I meant wpa_supplicant. |
| 08:12.44 | billyt | well i am kinda lost here cuz if it reboots it still is panicing |
| 08:12.57 | giwe | gozz, It used to work. I have upgraded to 5. |
| 08:12.59 | TBBle | Oh, duh. modprobe rule to add_sta on module load. Geez I'm dumb. |
| 08:13.00 | liable | TBBle: well, yeah, it starts from init.d, i dont start it with a pre-up |
| 08:13.31 | liable | billyt: still panics? |
| 08:13.37 | billyt | unless i manually go into grub and select the vmlinuz 2.6.12-1-k7 and manually add the root=dev/hdb1 to it |
| 08:13.49 | TBBle | liable: That's what I'm thinking of doing, just thinking about the next step which is wpa_supplicant ifup's the appropriate /e/n/i for the SSID found. |
| 08:13.55 | liable | billyt: thats what i said you still need to add |
| 08:14.07 | liable | billyt: the recovery one should boot fine though |
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| 08:14.17 | gozz | i msg dpkg vmware and it gave me a link to vm stuff do i need anything here? |
| 08:14.22 | billyt | ok where do i add it? and how do i disable it from using the initrd image |
| 08:14.30 | liable | TBBle: yeah, that would be sweet to get that happening. |
| 08:14.43 | kristalino | hehe knoppix users here :) |
| 08:14.47 | DaveLib | i just did a source install for the first time in the last minutes ie apt-get -b source |
| 08:14.52 | liable | billyt: just add it to the end of the kernel line, dont do anything else |
| 08:15.08 | DaveLib | so i guess that created .deb files on my computer |
| 08:15.21 | DaveLib | what is the next step to make binaries? |
| 08:15.28 | TBBle | Good. Sounds like a project to play with. Shame I won't have a wireless network handy to experiment on for too much longer. |
| 08:15.29 | billyt | it doesn't save it if i edit it in grub itself so where within linux do i add it? |
| 08:15.40 | liable | billyt: the menu.lst |
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| 08:15.48 | billyt | cool hang on |
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| 08:16.02 | liable | billyt: paste it again when you have edited it. |
| 08:16.29 | giwe | gozz, it looks like if you are running 2.6 kernels then your old vmware won't work. |
| 08:16.31 | TBBle | Hmm. Should actually be a udev rule, now I think about it. |
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| 08:18.41 | billyt | liable: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1664 |
| 08:18.53 | liable | TBBle: couldnt really call ifup, otherwise you would need a million aliases, would need to call ifconfig i would think. |
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| 08:19.40 | DaveLib | what is the next installation step after apt-get -b source ? |
| 08:19.44 | liable | billyt: you still need to change the first kernel to (hd1,0) |
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| 08:20.01 | billyt | k will fix it right quick and repaste |
| 08:20.17 | user__ | hi im trying to unisntall package with dpkg, but other packages depend on this package, how can i force uninstalling it anyway? |
| 08:20.54 | liable | user__: you want to break your system? |
| 08:21.02 | user__ | liable yes |
| 08:21.06 | liable | heh |
| 08:21.25 | user__ | so? |
| 08:21.51 | user__ | how do i do this |
| 08:21.57 | liable | user__: what are you really wanting to do |
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| 08:22.55 | TBBle | liable: I was thinking only a stanza per SSID, which seems reasonable to me. Called as "ifup wlan0=SSID_$SSID --allow=wpa-supplicant" so you just create a stanza or mapping for SSID_blah for each network you want to autoconnect to, and allow-wpa-supplicant SSID_blah to give wpa_supplicant permission to autoconnect. |
| 08:23.06 | user__ | liable i have installed xorg fromg backports, and ther is package xorg-common, now is witched to testing and there is also xrog s o i want to use officail debian packages from tegsting but, but "xorg-common" in debian is called "x11-common" so i must remove "xorg-common" then install x-window-system again |
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| 08:23.38 | billyt | ok updated http://channels.debian.net/paste/1665 |
| 08:23.42 | liable | TBBle: ah |
| 08:23.43 | TBBle | liable: I am trying to think of a way to indicate 'DHCP on anything else' but nothing comes to mind... Maybe if that ifup files, ifup wlan0 --allow=wpa-supplicant, and you can set _that_ to DHCP. |
| 08:24.04 | user__ | so how can i force uninstalling package? |
| 08:24.20 | liable | TBBle: sounds like a good package to make :) |
| 08:24.30 | jetscreamer | well that's stupid. if you don't have a successful dhcp init ipmasq gets bound to (127.0.01?) and doesn't matter how many times you ifdown/up eth0 you don't get no damn netconnect? |
| 08:24.35 | liable | user__: backports is removed from your source list? |
| 08:24.37 | TBBle | liable: I'll have a play, maybe put a patch in when I'm back home on Tuesday. |
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| 08:24.54 | TBBle | Part of the problem is Debian's on 0.46 and upstream's on 0.47 already... |
| 08:25.06 | user__ | liable yes |
| 08:25.27 | liable | billyt: looks good, one last thing, add ro to first kernel line, and try a reboot |
| 08:25.37 | liable | user__: and you have updated? |
| 08:25.45 | konfuzed | oh i mback finally |
| 08:25.47 | konfuzed | ? |
| 08:25.51 | user__ | yes! |
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| 08:26.22 | billyt | ro or ro single like the other one |
| 08:26.41 | liable | no single, just ro |
| 08:26.49 | billyt | ok rebooting then |
| 08:26.49 | konfuzed | what the hell was that - maybe you didnt see it |
| 08:27.11 | konfuzed | I got flooded with the ban list for #postgresql |
| 08:27.24 | konfuzed | in this channel's window |
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| 08:27.30 | konfuzed | that was too weird |
| 08:27.38 | liable | user__: man dpkg /force (--force-confmiss) |
| 08:27.58 | user__ | okay i have uninstalled it already |
| 08:28.01 | user__ | but another problems |
| 08:28.02 | user__ | damn |
| 08:28.07 | user__ | my system is broken |
| 08:28.13 | liable | user__: err, heh, --force-depends... |
| 08:28.23 | jetscreamer | yeah that's what happens konfuzed |
| 08:28.26 | liable | i dont know what i was thinking then.. |
| 08:28.45 | konfuzed | man that was like 25 pages of flood |
| 08:28.46 | Migmig | what the hell is this vsf_sysutil_recv_peek ? |
| 08:28.53 | Migmig | with vsftpd |
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| 08:29.07 | user__ | liable yes, i did that, but now i have another problems |
| 08:29.16 | billyt | damn all this fscking |
| 08:29.45 | user__ | E: The package x11-common needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 08:29.47 | liable | billyt: its doing it again? |
| 08:29.51 | billyt | yes |
| 08:29.56 | billyt | we boo booed |
| 08:29.56 | user__ | dpkg --configure --pending -a dons't help |
| 08:30.01 | billyt | its a quick fix though |
| 08:30.43 | billyt | root (hd1,0) refuses to boot but if i mod it back to root (hd0,0) it boots fine but it is fscking because of it |
| 08:30.52 | liable | user__: aptitude -f install |
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| 08:31.06 | jetscreamer | user_: when nothing works, ask me |
| 08:31.11 | jetscreamer | til then, have fun |
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| 08:31.39 | billyt | i think that the damn bios is not keeping time properly cuz it is saying it is doing because a file is in the future |
| 08:31.51 | jetscreamer | billyt: hd0 is dependent on what you booted from (hd, cd) |
| 08:31.56 | user__ | jetscreamer :) |
| 08:32.02 | billyt | HD |
| 08:32.08 | user__ | im starting to thin that i'll have to reistall |
| 08:32.09 | user__ | :( |
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| 08:32.18 | jetscreamer | no i mean it depends on which hd you booted from |
| 08:32.22 | jetscreamer | billyt: |
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| 08:32.33 | jetscreamer | spindle |
| 08:32.43 | ziom | hi do i need more usb modules than: usb_storage, usbcore and uhci_hcd? |
| 08:32.46 | billyt | i only have a single hdd so it would have to be HD0 |
| 08:32.48 | user__ | liable install what? |
| 08:32.56 | jetscreamer | did you boot from the cd? |
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| 08:33.02 | billyt | nope |
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| 08:33.12 | ziom | i fight to get the gt68xx scanner running |
| 08:33.19 | user__ | cannt install x-window-system cause it depends on packages that "cannot be installed' |
| 08:33.20 | user__ | :) |
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| 08:33.48 | liable | billyt: one hard drive? is the cdrom master on that controller? |
| 08:33.54 | ziom | user_, you do not need the whole x-window-system |
| 08:34.05 | jetscreamer | but it's nice |
| 08:34.06 | DaveLib | where does apt-get -b source put .deb files? |
| 08:34.11 | ziom | user_, xserver-xorg is sufficent |
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| 08:34.14 | billyt | i dunno haven't dug into the hardware... like i said this damn thing got dumped on me today |
| 08:34.32 | ziom | DaveLib, /var/cache/apt.. |
| 08:34.47 | jetscreamer | only master cd i've seen was a laptop(from the factory) |
| 08:34.50 | djp | is it possible to move/copy items from the debian menu under gnome, onto the main applications menu? also is it possible to add items to the debian menu? |
| 08:34.53 | DaveLib | ziom: thanks! |
| 08:34.54 | user__ | xserver-xorg: Depends: xserver-common (>= 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11) but it is not installable |
| 08:35.26 | jetscreamer | well ok i'm going to expose myself to castignation and multiple larts |
| 08:35.30 | ziom | dvaelib, thats why on new installation i didnt make a own partition for opt but for var:) |
| 08:35.30 | jetscreamer | dpkg alive |
| 08:35.32 | jetscreamer | ? |
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| 08:35.49 | billyt | brb folks i need a smoke |
| 08:35.53 | jetscreamer | !test |
| 08:35.53 | dpkg | Yes, jetscreamer, you're still online. |
| 08:35.59 | ziom | ok but does someone have a gt68xx scanner? |
| 08:36.02 | DaveLib | ziom: so a few minutes ago i did apt-get -b source for the 1st time |
| 08:36.02 | jetscreamer | !fix-unmet |
| 08:36.03 | dpkg | hmm... fix-unmet is run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once. then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked), or eg, basically, don't edit sources, don't select anything, just go to option 2 and hit enter a lot |
| 08:36.21 | user__ | and xserver-xorg is not enogh to have x running |
| 08:36.29 | DaveLib | ziom: and i guess it worked it returned mte to the shell with no error messages |
| 08:36.35 | ziom | DaveLib, i never did, what is the option -b supposed to do? |
| 08:36.43 | liable | jetscreamer: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1663 fdisk says hdb1, grub works (hd0,0) |
| 08:36.47 | jetscreamer | try that user_ |
| 08:36.58 | DaveLib | ziom: i dunno i just copied what guerin in this channel told me to do |
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| 08:37.04 | ziom | hehe |
| 08:37.28 | DaveLib | wait: i got the -b from /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 08:37.37 | marccd | how can I log all stdout/stderr to a file? |
| 08:37.55 | jetscreamer | billyt liable what about /boot/grub/device.map |
| 08:37.58 | liable | program > foo.txt |
| 08:38.09 | user__ | i'll will but im about to relinstall ssystem |
| 08:38.10 | marccd | liable: that doesnt log stderr |
| 08:38.12 | user__ | ;-o |
| 08:38.14 | DaveLib | anyway /msg dpkg told me do that -b command and then install the resulting debs |
| 08:38.15 | ziom | on my first debian installation I also didnt read all the stuff, DaveLib - but its worth the time:) it saves much time in the future |
| 08:38.22 | jetscreamer | if grub works then why am i typing :/ |
| 08:38.37 | billyt | back |
| 08:38.40 | enorbet | l8z all |
| 08:38.48 | DaveLib | ziom: do /msg dpkg simple sid backports |
| 08:39.03 | shinobi | I have a question that my fglrx driver can't use suspend2 except I del the line "dri" in the xorg.conf? |
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| 08:39.27 | jetscreamer | that first one is borked anyway but the recovery one seems almost right? |
| 08:39.59 | DaveLib | so dpkg says: install the resulting debs what does that mean? ie what command etc |
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| 08:39.59 | billyt | damn it's jauary and tunderstorms in kansas freaking weird weather |
| 08:40.18 | jetscreamer | DaveLib: dpkg -i == install |
| 08:40.47 | jetscreamer | / dpkg -i blah.deb |
| 08:40.52 | DaveLib | jetstreamer: thanks what do i say for the target? |
| 08:41.03 | DaveLib | ahh ok jetstreamer |
| 08:41.05 | jetscreamer | / dpkg -i /path/to/blah.deb |
| 08:41.09 | billyt | ok liable i get a normal boot except now everytime it comes up it wants to fcsk |
| 08:41.25 | DaveLib | jetstreamer: wher3e do i find the deb? |
| 08:41.26 | shinobi | If I use 3D accelration,When I enter the X the display will massy... |
| 08:41.27 | billyt | i am thinking this drive is going south |
| 08:41.42 | DaveLib | it was just crewated by apt-get source |
| 08:41.43 | jetscreamer | billyt is http://channels.debian.net/paste/1663 what your menu.lst looks like atm? |
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| 08:42.05 | jetscreamer | DaveLib: i dunno whereever you put it |
| 08:42.08 | shinobi | Is someone run successfully suspend2 with fglrx driver?? |
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| 08:42.23 | jetscreamer | are you the apt-get -b guy? somebody said /var/lib i 'think' |
| 08:42.25 | gozz | is gcc a C compiler suitable for vmware? |
| 08:42.34 | jetscreamer | /var/cache/apt/archives maybe |
| 08:42.36 | DaveLib | i didnt put it anywhere i issued the command it printed out a bunch of lines and returned me to the shell |
| 08:42.41 | liable | billyt: normal boot with (hd0,0) ?? |
| 08:42.56 | DaveLib | ahh ok i will check that jetstreamer |
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| 08:43.13 | billyt | nope http://channels/debian/net/paste/1665 is current except now root (hd0,0) is what it is set at |
| 08:43.42 | billyt | yes normal boot with (hd0,0) on root |
| 08:43.45 | jetscreamer | wtf??? http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/download/default.jsp |
| 08:43.53 | gozz | i need a vmmon module |
| 08:43.53 | jetscreamer | i got that when i click the paste link |
| 08:44.07 | liable | billyt: fdisk -l /dev/hda to a paster |
| 08:44.14 | billyt | kk |
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| 08:44.40 | jetscreamer | http://channels/debian/net/paste/1665 <-- somebody click that |
| 08:44.54 | liable | why works ok here |
| 08:45.04 | billyt | if i can get past the wanting to run a fsck in manual mode |
| 08:45.10 | jetscreamer | wtf |
| 08:45.28 | jetscreamer | i get redirected |
| 08:45.56 | jetscreamer | http://channels/debian/net/paste/1663 works fine |
| 08:45.57 | billyt | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1665 |
| 08:46.00 | liable | jetscreamer: err, sorry channels.debian.net.. |
| 08:46.48 | jetscreamer | weeeerd |
| 08:46.51 | billyt | damn fscking |
| 08:47.06 | billyt | won't let me past even after a manual fsck now |
| 08:47.09 | jetscreamer | user_: any luck ? |
| 08:47.16 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 08:47.38 | billyt | damn it |
| 08:47.51 | billyt | doing a e2fsck again see if it fixes it |
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| 08:48.40 | jetscreamer | so bad url in ff == some random advertisement ? |
| 08:48.41 | liable | billyt: you sure its only got one drive? |
| 08:48.49 | billyt | positive |
| 08:48.54 | marccd | e/xit |
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| 08:49.07 | rohan | hi all... |
| 08:49.10 | rohan | i use dhcp for internet. |
| 08:49.16 | rohan | how and where do i specify my own dns servers ? |
| 08:49.32 | rohan | if i edit resolv.conf manually, it gets rewritten after a short while. |
| 08:49.33 | debianer | whats luv :P |
| 08:49.52 | liable | rohan: look in your dhclient.conf file |
| 08:50.08 | rohan | ok, liable |
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| 08:50.57 | billyt | ok my bios is freaky today it set itself back a day... hense the fscking issues |
| 08:51.07 | jetscreamer | debianer: somebody can't spell love usually |
| 08:51.12 | billyt | because of a future date |
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| 08:51.22 | billyt | weird shit |
| 08:51.43 | liable | thats not the only weird thing about that box |
| 08:51.53 | billyt | nope it isn't |
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| 08:52.01 | jetscreamer | did ya'll check devices.map liable ? |
| 08:52.03 | billyt | i agree as i look stuff over |
| 08:52.16 | liable | billyt: /j #flood and paste fdisk -l /dav/hda output |
| 08:52.25 | liable | jetscreamer: no actually |
| 08:52.30 | rohan | liable: i dont find any option to set the dns. |
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| 08:53.00 | rohan | can i set dhclient to never overwrite my resolv.conf ? |
| 08:53.06 | jetscreamer | rohan: man dhclient.conf maybe |
| 08:53.10 | billyt | so devices.map under /boot/grub ???? |
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| 08:53.44 | jetscreamer | that's where it is billyt |
| 08:53.56 | liable | rohan: option domain-name-severs??? |
| 08:54.40 | rohan | liable: thats all i need to set under lease() ? nothing else ? |
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| 08:54.48 | Migmig | Guys |
| 08:54.54 | Migmig | Sorry for the false alarm |
| 08:55.03 | liable | rohan: read the man page, thats the option, learn how to implement it. |
| 08:55.08 | Migmig | the test I was doing on my binaries had a problem with them |
| 08:55.12 | rohan | liable: fine. |
| 08:55.15 | Migmig | there is nothing wrong with FTP transfer from NTFS |
| 08:55.20 | Migmig | stupid me |
| 08:55.33 | billyt | jetscreamer: where is the devices.map |
| 08:55.51 | liable | billyt: /boot/grub/ |
| 08:55.54 | billyt | i will grab it and past it with the fdisk info for liable |
| 08:56.04 | jetscreamer | [03.01.52] <billyt> so devices.map under /boot/grub ???? [03.02.26] <jetscreamer> that's where it is billyt |
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| 08:56.16 | RedNinja- | What's the command to delete folder? |
| 08:56.21 | jetscreamer | rm -R |
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| 08:56.23 | billyt | liable there is no such file |
| 08:56.34 | RedNinja- | thanks |
| 08:56.38 | rohan | better to not have dhclient overwrite my resolv.conf rather than reading such long man pages :P |
| 08:57.12 | jetscreamer | if you control the dhcp server, go static |
| 08:57.25 | billyt | ok so it is there but i can't look at it |
| 08:57.47 | liable | billyt: device.map |
| 08:58.04 | billyt | never mind i got into it |
| 08:58.15 | billyt | here ya go update paste http://channels.debian.net/paste/1666 |
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| 08:59.21 | rohan | liable: i find no option to specify more than one dns. |
| 08:59.31 | rohan | liable: is it possible to do so ? |
| 09:00.15 | liable | billyt: right, so menu.lst needs to be (hd0,0) but root=/dev/hdb1 (dont forget the groot line in menu.lst) |
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| 09:00.42 | billyt | k other then that thankyou it is alive again!!! you guys have been a great help |
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| 09:01.17 | joefso | How can I install clearlook cairo on my debian machine? |
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| 09:01.56 | billyt | liable if your ever in kansas look me up on wichitalan.com my user there is drupi |
| 09:02.02 | Astar | hi ....are the packages updated on ftp.fr.debian.org ? i see my version never update since last month but newer versions are available |
| 09:02.10 | billyt | i owe you a beer or 20 |
| 09:02.25 | Guerin | joefso: aptitude search clearlooks |
| 09:02.26 | liable | billyt: heh, i doubt i'll make it, but cheers. :) |
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| 09:03.45 | liable | billyt: pull that box apart and see what the hell is the go with that drive, check the jumpers on it. |
| 09:03.56 | jetscreamer | Astar: did you do apt-get update ? |
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| 09:04.23 | rohan | wow, it works. |
| 09:04.23 | Astar | yes some packets are updated but few of them my mailscanner isnt updated |
| 09:04.31 | rohan | thanks a lot, litage |
| 09:04.33 | rohan | errr.. |
| 09:04.36 | rohan | thanks a lot, liable |
| 09:04.42 | jetscreamer | Astar: you could try another mirror possibly |
| 09:04.45 | jetscreamer | and see |
| 09:05.25 | Astar | http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages on this ...i have the same packages |
| 09:05.37 | Astar | same versions |
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| 09:06.24 | starscalling | brb fixing porting |
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| 09:07.51 | jetscreamer | Astar: so you did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and nothing happened. |
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| 09:09.08 | Astar | no , sometimes it update some packets ....but never my mailscanner |
| 09:09.18 | Usiu | Hi how to open under debian files with *.m extension ? |
| 09:09.33 | Usiu | I guess its from matlab |
| 09:10.22 | jetscreamer | Astar: i know nothing , but maybe there was no updates available? (which sounds lame i know) which mailscanner |
| 09:10.39 | Astar | the version on debian.org is a version of 01/10/2005 ...so don't seem to be my configuration have a problem |
| 09:11.02 | Astar | yes ..no version on debian.org but there are new version of this program |
| 09:11.15 | jetscreamer | Astar: sarge / stable ? |
| 09:12.06 | liable | sheesh p.do still down, anyone actually know wtf is going on? |
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| 09:13.32 | TBBle | Astar: If you want to check the uptodateness of a mirror, look in the projects/traces/ directory. The date in the ftp-master.debian.org is the date this mirror's upstream path last pulled from the Debian archive. |
| 09:13.56 | ziom | how do i mount a scanner? i have scanimage -L tells me its pluged but how do i conncet it with /dev/...? |
| 09:14.35 | ziom | modprobe scanner should work but it gives fatal error... |
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| 09:15.14 | ziom | the car is there but i dont know how to get it run:P |
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| 09:17.08 | jetscreamer | ziom: if it's an hp scanner there are some hp proggies in source |
| 09:17.16 | jetscreamer | sources |
| 09:17.20 | ziom | it the gt68 creap |
| 09:17.34 | jetscreamer | i know nothing my scanners are in the garage |
| 09:17.43 | dondelelcaro | dvm1981: the bot has ignored you because you were abusing it yesterday. |
| 09:17.50 | jetscreamer | LOL |
| 09:18.06 | ziom | well i m supposed to overwritte the hardware of the scanner but i do not know how |
| 09:18.18 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: bbbwwwaaa euhm, sorry for overloading the bot :-/ |
| 09:18.40 | jetscreamer | dvm1981 means well imo |
| 09:19.01 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: I do not know when i have abuse it, but if i have abuse it, i must be pay serious attention for in the future |
| 09:19.32 | ziom | scanimage -L gives: device `gt68xx:libusb:001:002' is a ..... but when i try to scan it gives "gt68xx:libusb:001:002 failed: Invalid argument" |
| 09:19.59 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro, jetscreamer : sorry to abuse the bot, hi is verry userfull, OK right, i do serious attention in the future, sorry guys |
| 09:20.01 | ziom | there is a note that i should updatefirmware since i added the usb file manually but i do not know how |
| 09:20.19 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: don't mind me i have nothing to do with it |
| 09:20.33 | ziom | usbfile > /dev/sda1? |
| 09:20.40 | ziom | ^^ |
| 09:21.34 | jetscreamer | once again, i know nothing, but i don't think sd == usb |
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| 09:22.21 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: Hopping that im not blacklisted :-/ |
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| 09:22.44 | dondelelcaro | dvm1981: the issue is that you were having it say stuff that was off topic when you should have been using /msg to talk with it. |
| 09:23.08 | dondelelcaro | dvm1981: if it's not directly on topic for the current conversation, use /msg. |
| 09:23.25 | phycho | ~stable |
| 09:23.28 | apt | hmm... stable is the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or changed unless a security fix is needed, or sta-ble adj; uptime in excess of 365days, or where the horses live The current stable version of Debian is sarge (3.1). |
| 09:23.28 | dondelelcaro | dvm1981: this was 24 hours ago today. |
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| 09:23.52 | jetscreamer | like ^^^ |
| 09:24.07 | jetscreamer | /msg would have been better :) |
| 09:24.16 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: I know, i have say some stupid things, i hope i have learn about this situation |
| 09:24.28 | ziom | libusb:n:m what do the number n and m stand for? |
| 09:24.45 | ziom | on which usbcontroller its pluged? |
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| 09:25.54 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: I must be learn some practical commands about irc and so. |
| 09:26.08 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: I note the things :-) |
| 09:26.16 | Coweater | ziom: bus:device, browse around /proc/bus/usb |
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| 09:26.47 | ziom | thx Coweater, does this mean something to you: Please use an appropriate override for your scanner. |
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| 09:27.04 | ziom | how do i make an "override" ^^ |
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| 09:27.33 | ziom | "Use extreme care and switch off the scanner immediately if you hear unusual noise." |
| 09:27.42 | jetscreamer | let him make it dude you'll cwush his widdle feewins! |
| 09:28.20 | Coweater | ziom: i'm not familiar with what overrides do, but they would go in the appropriate sane.d config for your printer |
| 09:28.20 | ziom | well i hear nothing at all i see just thle LED that the scaner is on and scanimage tells me its pluged but i do not know any further |
| 09:28.35 | ziom | i have the options in the config |
| 09:28.46 | ziom | how do i load it on the scanner |
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| 09:29.48 | jetscreamer | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/ |
| 09:29.50 | jetscreamer | hth |
| 09:30.06 | ziom | i have the following options http://pastebin.com/527022 |
| 09:30.26 | ziom | well i m reading the 3rd or 4th howto |
| 09:30.37 | jetscreamer | ah :( |
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| 09:30.53 | ziom | jetscreamer, it all comes down to it that the gt68xx is not a default sane-scaner |
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| 09:31.12 | jetscreamer | i know nothing |
| 09:31.16 | ziom | i made all like that: http://www.meier-geinitz.de/sane/gt68xx-backend/ |
| 09:31.20 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: Thanks that you have comme back again about it and say me about the stupid thing i have do yesterday ;-) |
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| 09:32.10 | ziom | but then it tells me update the firmaware and be careful |
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| 09:33.03 | ziom | there is no word how i put the options of the gt68xx.conf on the scanner they say add gt68xx to the dll.conf ... i done |
| 09:33.14 | ziom | but how to update the firmware? |
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| 09:34.00 | dominicano | !split |
| 09:34.00 | dpkg | from memory, split is when onemore freenode servers disconnect from the others: this shows up as a bunch of "Signoff: xxx (Connection reset by peer)" |
| 09:34.10 | mbill | i want to log in to debian 3.1 using serial port and winXp with hyperterminal. Can anyone tell me how to do this. Preferably with a old standard unix command. I am practicing to log on to a old sco 386 system... |
| 09:34.19 | ziom | modprobe scanner gives fatal error |
| 09:34.27 | ziom | should do:P |
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| 09:34.46 | Coweater | ziom: you shouldn't need to be probing anything |
| 09:34.51 | dominicano | dvm1981, what do you know about the split command? |
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| 09:35.12 | jetscreamer | man split |
| 09:35.15 | dominicano | dvm1981, can i split a video file with this command/>? |
| 09:35.25 | ziom | well ok i have my hardware on libusb:001:004 all is well |
| 09:35.31 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I have do it 2,3 times not more |
| 09:35.43 | phycho | ~etch |
| 09:35.44 | apt | from memory, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
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| 09:36.01 | ziom | but then it tells me invalid options |
| 09:36.02 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Ask here on the people in general. I not know about it, sorry |
| 09:36.28 | dominicano | dvm1981, thanx |
| 09:36.40 | Coweater | ziom: what command are you using to scan? |
| 09:37.15 | Jeeves_Moss | all: has any one had an issue like mine? I go to shut down my Debian server, and it hangs on the LVM. Then when I power it off, I can't restart it unless I pull hte BIOS batt. |
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| 09:37.34 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Usefull commands : 'man split', 'info plit', 'split --help' :-) |
| 09:38.21 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I look also in it, because i can not help you at this moment, i must read it to know |
| 09:38.58 | dominicano | dvm1981, oka, i am reading too |
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| 09:39.50 | mbill | i want to log in to debian 3.1 using serial port and winXp with hyperterminal. Can anyone tell me how to do this. Preferably with a old standard unix command. I am practicing to log on to a old sco 386 system... |
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| 09:40.29 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Have you try to split the movie file ? i try one |
| 09:40.50 | Coweater | mbill: set up a telnet daemon |
| 09:40.51 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Try it in a test dir or so, make a copy of the movie in case of ... |
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| 09:40.55 | Jeeves_Moss | all: BIOS issue? any one? |
| 09:41.12 | jetscreamer | google the ultimate bios guide Jeeves_Moss |
| 09:41.18 | mbill | ill try looking up that command |
| 09:41.56 | Jeeves_Moss | jetscreamer: Thanks, I've allready looked. Its an Asus P4T board. kinda rare. |
| 09:42.11 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Have you download the 'debconf' movies ? Verry nice, i try it on one of these :-) |
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| 09:43.06 | jetscreamer | Jeeves_Moss: so state the issue, even though i probably am useless, you might get lucky and one of the other 754 ppl might know |
| 09:43.19 | dominicano | dvm1981, yes, but now i am copying the file from dvd first |
| 09:43.32 | dominicano | dvm1981, later i gonna split this |
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| 09:43.58 | Jeeves_Moss | jetscreamer: its more like the other 47 people. |
| 09:44.44 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Look for the 'debconf' videos :-) http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2005/debconf5/ |
| 09:44.50 | jetscreamer | might be some lurker that just 'has' to chip in though |
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| 09:47.32 | dominicano | dvm1981, ok, i gonna see this |
| 09:48.43 | dvm1981 | dominicano: split movie.mpeg --bytes=20480000 |
| 09:48.52 | jetscreamer | hey what's today's date |
| 09:49.02 | jetscreamer | 21? |
| 09:49.13 | dvm1981 | dominicano: It's is really easy to do man, read the 'info split' :-) |
| 09:49.27 | dvm1981 | 28 |
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| 09:49.33 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 09:49.51 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: a week to late ? |
| 09:50.15 | jetscreamer | yeah. i turn my box off for a while it loses the bios |
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| 09:50.23 | jetscreamer | i changed the batt too |
| 09:50.25 | brosioz | i've install w32codecs but i can't play video that are on divx6 anyone could help ? |
| 09:50.39 | jetscreamer | you need divx then maybe? i dunno |
| 09:50.44 | Guerin | brosioz: ask the divxtards |
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| 09:51.07 | jetscreamer | and afaik all i've seen is divx5 in my debian stuff |
| 09:51.22 | jetscreamer | so maybe 6 aint there yet... isn't it new?(ish) |
| 09:51.33 | Guerin | it's very new |
| 09:51.38 | Guerin | and very proprietary |
| 09:51.41 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 09:52.04 | jetscreamer | i like xvid better anyway i think.. no reason, just a feeling |
| 09:52.12 | dominicano | dvm1981, i am reading it, but first i need copy the movie to the HDD, i am doing this |
| 09:52.22 | Guerin | x264 > * |
| 09:52.28 | Guerin | and it's free software as well |
| 09:53.11 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Yep, in my example i have made files of 20MB, the movie whas 60MB |
| 09:53.44 | jetscreamer | yeah i read about that finally |
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| 09:53.59 | jetscreamer | or xome xthingy with #'s |
| 09:54.31 | jetscreamer | apple/quicktime/or something ... i didn't care enough to absorb it though |
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| 09:55.16 | Guerin | jetscreamer: x264 is a free software implementation of the h.264 spec which apple uses extensively, and is commonly known as "quicktime video" |
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| 09:55.34 | Guerin | but it's a full-blown mpeg-4 spec, and the free tools are pretty bloody good |
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| 09:55.56 | wizzomafizzo | Can someone tell me what I'm meant to use to watch movies? |
| 09:55.59 | wizzomafizzo | Or how to get mplayer? |
| 09:56.03 | jetscreamer | i was wondering why i remembered h. .... but i thought i was remembering the h. thing associated with telephony |
| 09:56.16 | Guerin | wizzomafizzo: use xine or vlc, or /msg dpkg mplayer |
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| 09:56.27 | wizzomafizzo | Ok. Thanks |
| 09:56.32 | jetscreamer | !tell wizzomafizzo -about marillat |
| 09:56.35 | Guerin | jetscreamer: h.323 is a voice-over-ip spec |
| 09:56.44 | jetscreamer | yeh that one |
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| 09:57.52 | juice` | is there any way to run lilo from another system, to update broken kernel without chrooting? |
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| 09:58.45 | Guerin | juice`: no. |
| 09:58.47 | wizzomafizzo | I'd settle for vlc, but I can't find it in the repo. |
| 09:58.50 | wizzomafizzo | Just the docs for it. |
| 09:58.52 | juice` | i mean, i have a dedicated server at remote location, lets say i misconfigured kernel and after reboot it doesnt want to boot up. So what i do is choose 'rescue mode' from the panel and run from livecd |
| 09:59.07 | juice` | usually then i chroot, rebuild kernel, run lilo and its ok |
| 09:59.08 | Guerin | wizzomafizzo: it's not in testing currently, because the gnometards have broken a bunch of its deps |
| 09:59.17 | Guerin | wizzomafizzo: you can try the static builds from videolan.org |
| 09:59.25 | juice` | but i have situation where i can't chroot. So no possiblity to update kernel without chrooting? |
| 09:59.32 | wizzomafizzo | Ok, thanks. |
| 09:59.44 | Guerin | juice`: why can't you chroot? |
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| 09:59.48 | wizzomafizzo | I think I'll just go with the mplayer repos then. |
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| 10:00.01 | diego | hello, question: why i can't browse my windows network with nautilus? i have debian testing, nautilus shows de workgroup but when i try to browse it, says that "the content of the folder can't be shown" |
| 10:00.17 | juice` | Guerin: oh, well im not in this situation yet, but i want to remote-install (debootstrap) debian 64bit |
| 10:00.22 | Guerin | diego: #samba might know |
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| 10:00.32 | jetscreamer | xine is good and works better for me than vlc, but that's just me |
| 10:00.38 | juice` | and if i do something wrong, i have only 32bit rescue mode to play with |
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| 10:00.44 | lodder | 4 |
| 10:00.47 | juice` | so i can have acceess to my disk and stuff, but i can't chroot |
| 10:00.56 | diego | Guerin, oh, ok |
| 10:00.58 | juice` | (wrong kernel, wrong libs and such) |
| 10:01.01 | Guerin | juice`: oh. Using either lilo or grub, you can edit the boot commands at boot time, in order to select your kernel of choice. |
| 10:01.27 | juice` | Guerin: this is at remote locatiojn |
| 10:01.33 | Guerin | juice`: oh, what fun. |
| 10:01.42 | juice` | Guerin: normal dedicated server offer :) |
| 10:02.13 | juice` | Guerin: now i have 32bit debian, and everything works fine |
| 10:02.34 | juice` | Guerin: if i do something wrong, i just boot livecd (selecting it from panel from my provider) and rebuilding it and its ok |
| 10:02.58 | juice` | Guerin: but i want to install amd64 debian, and i wonder, what will happen if i fail kernel installation or something |
| 10:03.12 | juice` | there must be a way to just simulate chroot |
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| 10:03.26 | Guerin | juice`: stick with it, then. Unless you have mega shitloads of ram, or are going to be doing something which explicitly requires 64-bit. |
| 10:03.27 | Guerin | juice`: for most common applications, you won't gain much for all the headaches it'll take to get there. |
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| 10:04.09 | Guerin | juice`: using grub, you'll be able to craft a menu.lst which will boot your chroot, easily. |
| 10:04.11 | juice` | Guerin: i have busy server (web/mail/ftp) and i read amd64 is giving some performance |
| 10:04.19 | juice` | hmmm |
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| 10:04.30 | myren | MY KeYbOaRd IS fUcKed.... I aM TYPING WITH caPS LOcK ON TO deMONSTRaTe WTf IS GOING ON |
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| 10:04.39 | myren | WHaT THe fUcK? |
| 10:04.42 | juice` | Guerin: well i will make a backup, so if i fail i can always go back, so no problem |
| 10:04.45 | AlexW | how would i set a cron every hour? |
| 10:04.45 | Guerin | myren: don't tell us, buy a new fucking keyboard. |
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| 10:04.50 | AlexW | 0 * * * *? |
| 10:04.52 | myren | its part of my laptop |
| 10:04.56 | Guerin | AlexW: by following the instructions in 'man crontab' |
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| 10:05.08 | myren | the weird thing is, when i'm booting up at first, it works normal |
| 10:05.08 | dominicano | dvm1981, i am reading something about Koninkrijk Belgiƫ |
| 10:05.18 | juice` | Guerin: so, you mean i won't have to chroot /mnt/mydisk from livecd to change kernel in grub? |
| 10:05.19 | Guerin | AlexW: or putting a script in cron.hourly |
| 10:05.21 | drakeoutlaw | myren: yor shift keys are stuck. tap each one afew times |
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| 10:05.24 | myren | but as soon as it gets past a certain point in initialization my keyboard goes insane |
| 10:05.31 | AlexW | Guerin: is it 0 * * * * |
| 10:05.37 | dvm1981 | dominicano: If you like it ;-) |
| 10:05.41 | myren | drakeoutlaw: no, its been like this for weeks |
| 10:05.43 | Guerin | juice`: no, you can just write a menu.list entry for grub which will boot the new kernel |
| 10:05.46 | Guerin | AlexW: no. |
| 10:05.57 | juice` | Guerin: wow, well this is just what i wanted :) |
| 10:06.03 | juice` | Guerin: does lilo have it too? |
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| 10:06.06 | Guerin | !grand |
| 10:06.06 | dpkg | It's not called the GRAND Unified Bootloader for nothing. |
| 10:06.12 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I read the debian-reference-en :-) verry interesting ;-) |
| 10:06.16 | Guerin | juice`: I haven't used lilo in about two years |
| 10:06.19 | myren | frak, 100$ keyboard |
| 10:06.20 | myren | oh well |
| 10:06.26 | drakeoutlaw | myren: on my old toshiba it was a loose ribbon connector under the keyboard |
| 10:06.27 | DaveLib | hey back again thanks guerin jetstreamer zion my install of 1 of the packages just worked i just started running the app a minute ago |
| 10:06.29 | juice` | Guerin: guess i should stop using it too then |
| 10:06.35 | myren | yeah i was thinking of trying that |
| 10:06.49 | Guerin | DaveLib: nice. What packages were they, from interest? |
| 10:07.10 | DaveLib | the 1 i just installed: celestia-gnome do you know it? |
| 10:07.17 | juice` | Guerin: thank you. i will risk just for fun, its only free hosting, and i have backups, so why not :) |
| 10:07.29 | Guerin | i love this thing so much I'm about to take it on a 15,000km road trip |
| 10:07.33 | tsino | hi |
| 10:07.36 | resiak | Erm... There's a v in there somewhere. |
| 10:07.44 | tsino | what's kernel-image is better: 2.6.8-11 or 2.6.8-2? |
| 10:07.51 | Guerin | resiak: keep your loin away from my toshi's ports! |
| 10:08.01 | resiak | Guerin: *humphump* |
| 10:08.02 | dominicano | how can i turn off the console's beep? |
| 10:08.11 | Guerin | DaveLib: /msg dpkg bell |
| 10:08.13 | Guerin | dominicano: |
| 10:08.28 | drakeoutlaw | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.29 | Guerin | DaveLib: oh, the astronomy thing? |
| 10:08.37 | DaveLib | celestia is the nicest astronomy program i ever saw yes |
| 10:08.37 | resiak | !info kernel-image-2.6.8-11-386 |
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| 10:08.49 | Guerin | my mum messed about with that |
| 10:08.55 | DaveLib | the other package i didnt get in yet tomboy |
| 10:08.56 | tsino | resiak, 2.6.8-11 then? |
| 10:09.37 | dvm1981 | !tell dvm1981 -about bel |
| 10:09.50 | dvm1981 | hhhmmm |
| 10:10.07 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: /msg |
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| 10:10.11 | jetscreamer | /msg bot thing |
| 10:10.39 | jetscreamer | or use #debian-bots |
| 10:10.54 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: i not understand it. I have to type '/msg' ? |
| 10:11.01 | jetscreamer | yes. |
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| 10:11.08 | jetscreamer | /msg apt help |
| 10:11.21 | jetscreamer | /msg apt what are you |
| 10:11.27 | jetscreamer | /msg apt whatever |
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| 10:11.57 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: it keeps the spam in the channel here down |
| 10:12.21 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: aaaiii, i will not go in war h |
| 10:12.23 | dr1v3r | guys whats the command to clean up your system again? The one i am looking for is the one that cleans up all of the package files that is left after apt-get remove? |
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| 10:12.29 | dr1v3r | what i want is one that will clean up every tmp file from every package i have uninstalled |
| 10:12.37 | jetscreamer | apt-get clean or autoclean |
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| 10:12.41 | DaveLib | tomboy is a note taking system a little wiki on your \desktop |
| 10:12.45 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: Is there an manual or so, before i abuse it here again ? |
| 10:12.48 | dr1v3r | well every left over files |
| 10:12.56 | dr1v3r | kewl thanx jet |
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| 10:13.09 | dr1v3r | will that clean them up even if i dont know the package name? |
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| 10:13.31 | jetscreamer | yes |
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| 10:13.42 | Guerin | so, icewm seems to be less crap than it previously was |
| 10:13.58 | jetscreamer | there used to be some link in the topic a long time ago dvm1981 for that but i dunno |
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| 10:14.31 | jetscreamer | i've never really noticed it not doing anything it said it could Guerin |
| 10:14.35 | jetscreamer | but i dunno |
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| 10:14.41 | DaveLib | really easy to use |
| 10:14.41 | DaveLib | tomboy is in etch celestia in sid |
| 10:14.42 | DaveLib | so i tried the backport for tomboy with my repositories set to source for sid |
| 10:14.42 | DaveLib | it didnt work a library was in the wrong version |
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| 10:14.46 | positron | I can't get my router to work. I have this kind of topology: isp -> debian router -> zyxel firewall/switch -> many comps. Should I put the cable from debian box to zyxel's wan port or normal port? I have installed an iptables script which does ip-forwarding but it doesnt work. I tried also ipmasq. I can get to internet with this debian machine but the Zyxel cant get internet access. What I should do? |
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| 10:14.58 | dr1v3r | jetscreamer will them files remove any .conf files that are left also? |
| 10:15.13 | tsino | positron, lol |
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| 10:15.18 | tsino | you're the delphi positron one? |
| 10:15.19 | tsino | xD |
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| 10:15.28 | jetscreamer | dr1v3r: you mean you want to purge your conf files that are left over after you uninstalled? |
| 10:15.36 | dr1v3r | yea |
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| 10:15.46 | Zugschlus | Hm. I was on #debian.de instead of #debian. Luckily, I noticed that before typing !german |
| 10:15.52 | positron | tsino: no |
| 10:15.53 | jetscreamer | that might be apt-get remove --purge <package> |
| 10:15.53 | dr1v3r | sorry i thought it would have been cleaning it :( sorry |
| 10:16.01 | djp | does double clicking on a .shell file run the script? |
| 10:16.01 | positron | tsino: maybe i should change my nick cos this is reserved |
| 10:16.14 | zealop | im positron@efnet |
| 10:16.16 | dr1v3r | is theer any command where you dont have to use the packagename? |
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| 10:16.19 | jetscreamer | dr1v3r: the apt-get clean is for removing downloaded .debs that you installed with apt-get |
| 10:16.29 | dr1v3r | ohh rite |
| 10:17.12 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: I think that im now again ignored by the bots, so that's the raison why it no more work, i ty again in some days |
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| 10:17.46 | jetscreamer | dr1v3r: what i do, is i use dselect and go to the uninstalled packages header. then i hit the _ with the header highlighted. that purges every uninstalled package (that you didn't purge in the first place) |
| 10:17.51 | zealop | tsino: any ideas for that prob? |
| 10:17.51 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: did you try apt? |
| 10:17.58 | tsino | zealop, sorry, I don't have experience with zyxel firewalls |
| 10:18.09 | tsino | only with zyxels routers :) |
| 10:18.22 | zealop | tsino: hmh dooesnt matter i think |
| 10:18.23 | tsino | sorry |
| 10:18.34 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: I have try it now, same case, im /ignored |
| 10:19.18 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: you 'can' install your own blootbot, and synch it's database up to dpkg's. but if you do, do not bring the bot in here. |
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| 10:19.26 | dr1v3r | hmmm apt-get remove --purge <package> has not removed the .conf file :( |
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| 10:20.14 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: I think that im not play with that now, because i wil not go in a war with everyone while im test some things |
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| 10:20.46 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: But reallly thanks for the additional informations ;-) |
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| 10:20.57 | jetscreamer | no war, jsut don't bring it here cuz opbots are frowned upon. i don't even have one here. |
| 10:21.08 | jetscreamer | i should |
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| 10:21.50 | jetscreamer | eye whoan tu bee laik maike |
| 10:22.04 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: I try first with the basic things, so i not excitation everyone |
| 10:22.14 | jetscreamer | good plan |
| 10:22.37 | dvm1981 | i try ;-) |
| 10:22.40 | jetscreamer | s/whoan/woan/ |
| 10:23.10 | dvm1981 | yep, regular expression ? |
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| 10:23.55 | jetscreamer | hey dvm1981 where are you from, anyway, just out of curiosity |
| 10:24.05 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: Belgium |
| 10:24.08 | jetscreamer | ahh |
| 10:24.13 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: Around Brussels |
| 10:24.21 | jetscreamer | <-houston |
| 10:24.35 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: On the other side ;-) |
| 10:24.59 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: My english is verry bad :-/ |
| 10:25.50 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: my dutch is worse |
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| 10:26.08 | jetscreamer | non-existent even |
| 10:26.14 | jetscreamer | i can't even cuss in it |
| 10:26.28 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: I have not really learn english on shool, because i leave it to quickly, so i try to learn it |
| 10:26.37 | uzE | hi, are there any forum about debian? |
| 10:26.53 | jetscreamer | look on debian.org, left menu |
| 10:26.58 | jetscreamer | ? |
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| 10:27.39 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: Looking in the world clock, trying to situate you |
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| 10:27.47 | ziom | well my dream of scanning on debian vanished... of those view not-standard supported scanners of the type gt68xx i have the "Product id 0x4001 does not work at all, that's a different chip." |
| 10:28.07 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/misc/related_links |
| 10:28.46 | Guerin | jetscreamer: sorry, I lost the context there |
| 10:29.05 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: Where are locate Houston aprocimative? I look in the world clock |
| 10:29.11 | jetscreamer | utc-6 |
| 10:29.14 | jetscreamer | cst |
| 10:29.22 | jetscreamer | texas? |
| 10:29.27 | jetscreamer | nasa? |
| 10:29.43 | jetscreamer | N.A.S.A. ? |
| 10:29.51 | jetscreamer | space thing? |
| 10:30.03 | jetscreamer | Guerin: which context |
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| 10:31.03 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: That say me something, but i can not imaginate where it is, near 'Denver' ? |
| 10:31.09 | Guerin | 19:14:17 < jetscreamer> i've never really noticed it not doing anything it said it could Guerin |
| 10:31.12 | jetscreamer | near mexico |
| 10:31.47 | Guerin | nothing in texas is really near anywhere else, is it? |
| 10:31.55 | jetscreamer | ah. i just meant it's never seemed buggy to me |
| 10:32.02 | Guerin | jetscreamer: icewm? |
| 10:32.07 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 10:32.11 | jetscreamer | but i'm a n00b |
| 10:32.26 | Guerin | jetscreamer: well, the only thing which is currently broken for me is that my font choices aren't being used |
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| 10:32.39 | Guerin | but the font colours are, go figure. |
| 10:32.57 | dvm1981 | There are 'Map Themes' in the world clock, learned another thing :-) |
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| 10:33.02 | Guerin | so I get everything in FUCKING LARGE SIZE FOR BLIND PEOPLE FONTS |
| 10:33.21 | jetscreamer | i've noticed that the fonts change depending on if i use kdm or gdm or xdm. and if you want slim nice fonts gdm + icewm-gnome. |
| 10:33.27 | jetscreamer | i know what you mean |
| 10:33.51 | jetscreamer | and also if i use nodm |
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| 10:38.16 | liable | !test |
| 10:38.16 | dpkg | No, liable, you're not online any more. |
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| 10:41.16 | djp | can i run a script by double clicking on the file under gnome or do i have to launch it from the command line? |
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| 10:41.58 | dvm1981 | djp: you must set it executable, the both works |
| 10:42.16 | djp | thanks dvm1981 |
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| 10:42.58 | dvm1981 | djp: no needs to thx me ;-) |
| 10:43.00 | jetscreamer | djp it's settable behavior in the nautilus preferences.. or file manager preferences in the system thing |
| 10:43.12 | jetscreamer | run, ask, or open i think |
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| 10:44.06 | nuxien | hello |
| 10:44.28 | dvm1981 | hi |
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| 10:45.07 | nuxien | sorry i'm french but i'm fade up whit debian-fr channel |
| 10:45.11 | kristalino | is it mandatory to run the very same version of the client and the server of openvpn ? |
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| 10:45.59 | nuxien | i need help whit authentification key apt |
| 10:46.09 | jetscreamer | topic ? |
| 10:46.10 | azeem | nuxien: see /topic |
| 10:46.12 | dvm1981 | nuxien: i understand french, but here it's not the place for |
| 10:46.42 | nuxien | oki |
| 10:46.50 | nuxien | sorry, i just see that |
| 10:46.52 | nuxien | ^_^ |
| 10:47.15 | dvm1981 | And the #debian-nl there is never nobody, so im here :-) |
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| 10:47.46 | dr1v3r | anyone ever used vsftpd? |
| 10:47.52 | liable | stupid network |
| 10:47.54 | nuxien | yes but ptilouis is bored |
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| 10:50.09 | dvm1981 | pphh, yes, /ignored, i forget it again |
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| 10:50.59 | Mouldy | hey all |
| 10:51.45 | dvm1981 | yo ;-) |
| 10:51.54 | Mouldy | Can anyone tell me how I can set up surround sound? I'm using Debian SID and I have a crappy on board 5.1 sound card. |
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| 10:59.53 | liable | HOLA |
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| 11:00.42 | bbls | hello |
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| 11:02.29 | bbls | can someone tell me in what packages is mkfs? |
| 11:03.00 | jingo | apt-file probably can |
| 11:03.21 | bbls | i don't have any apt-file |
| 11:03.25 | drac | install it |
| 11:03.37 | drac | apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search mkfs |
| 11:03.46 | bbls | ok, thx |
| 11:03.58 | epsilon | bbls: dpkg -S mkfs |
| 11:03.59 | outlaw84 | I need help geting my sata devices to work... I cant find the newly installed device anywhere |
| 11:04.01 | grandma | just curious: anyone know how compressed the debian packages are if at all? |
| 11:04.28 | azeem | grandma: they are tar.gz compressed |
| 11:04.35 | cpop | why can't I use #define in my ~/.Xdefaults? |
| 11:04.52 | grandma | ah, gzip cool thanks |
| 11:04.57 | azeem | cpop: do you have cpp installed? |
| 11:05.21 | cpop | yes |
| 11:05.58 | azeem | maybe they switched to a less demanding xdefaults parser, there was some talk about this |
| 11:06.04 | azeem | cpop: is this on sarge? |
| 11:06.12 | bbls | would "apt-get install gnome" install most of gnome stuff? |
| 11:06.21 | azeem | bbls: yes |
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| 11:06.35 | bbls | azeem do i have to manually install X too? |
| 11:06.40 | azeem | bbls: yes |
| 11:06.40 | bbls | or it will be automatically selected? |
| 11:06.46 | drac | bbls: no |
| 11:06.49 | cpop | azeem: on unstable |
| 11:06.54 | bbls | hmm |
| 11:06.59 | dvm1981 | i Try to install 'apt-file' and it say that there are an critical bug in #321783 - libapt-pkg-perl. Dependency on Virtual File breaks everything without impunity! |
| 11:06.59 | azeem | cpop: well, I don't know really |
| 11:07.11 | drac | bbls: apt-get install x-window-system-core gnome-desktop-enviroment :P |
| 11:07.15 | dvm1981 | Install it ? |
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| 11:07.24 | cpop | it doesn't com,plain about #define commands, but it ignores them |
| 11:07.25 | bbls | drac thx |
| 11:07.32 | drac | bbls *environment |
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| 11:08.01 | bbls | would X drivers automatically download too? |
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| 11:08.28 | drac | yes |
| 11:08.30 | dvm1981 | So it's not suggested to install it? If i have been understand? |
| 11:08.33 | bbls | ok, thx |
| 11:08.37 | bbls | now one more question |
| 11:08.51 | bbls | how do i switch the channel in bitchx? :) |
| 11:09.06 | cpop | btw, who do I talk about a banned ip? |
| 11:09.12 | jetscreamer | /window next |
| 11:09.15 | cpop | *talk to |
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| 11:09.17 | bbls | jetscreamer thx |
| 11:09.23 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:09.24 | nuxien | dvm1981, can i tell you on pv please? |
| 11:09.28 | jetscreamer | /window prev also i think |
| 11:09.33 | bbls | jetscreamer there are no hidden windows |
| 11:09.37 | inane | hey all |
| 11:09.41 | dvm1981 | If you would like it, yes, |
| 11:09.56 | jetscreamer | /window help |
| 11:09.59 | bbls | ok :) |
| 11:10.00 | jetscreamer | i thin |
| 11:10.02 | jetscreamer | k |
| 11:10.18 | epsilon | MiRC FOR LIFE |
| 11:10.21 | jetscreamer | try irssi sometime |
| 11:10.34 | bbls | jetscreamer ok, wait to finish gnome install :) |
| 11:10.35 | buu | Eww, mirc. |
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| 11:10.42 | inane | hey what's the fastest Debian repository? |
| 11:10.50 | buu | lyre.mit ! |
| 11:10.50 | jetscreamer | the one close to you? |
| 11:11.00 | inane | haha |
| 11:11.01 | buu | Assuming you live next to me |
| 11:11.03 | bbls | i've already got 82 packages, how many of the are? |
| 11:11.06 | buu | If not I can't really help you. |
| 11:11.09 | jetscreamer | try apt-spy i think... or the program that finds it for you |
| 11:11.15 | jetscreamer | i think it's apt-spy |
| 11:11.15 | dvm1981 | nuxien: It was to my you talked ? |
| 11:11.15 | tabloid | is debian supported by amd sempron? |
| 11:11.19 | jetscreamer | itps apt-something |
| 11:11.29 | nuxien | dvm1981, yes but it was blocked |
| 11:11.30 | inane | ofcourse dvm |
| 11:11.32 | buu | tabloid: No, give up. |
| 11:11.33 | drac | tabloid: yes, download i386 version. |
| 11:11.46 | tabloid | thx |
| 11:11.51 | inane | I meant tabloid |
| 11:11.52 | tabloid | you saved my day |
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| 11:12.09 | inane | upgrade to an athlon though :) |
| 11:12.12 | epsilon | inane: just take a mirror in your country |
| 11:12.17 | inane | 64 that is |
| 11:12.34 | buu | inane: Semprons are hot. |
| 11:12.46 | inane | I find mirrors.kernel.org is the fastest I don't know |
| 11:12.54 | dvm1981 | nuxien: I have started an pv, but you're not there man ;-) |
| 11:12.57 | buu | inane: Did you try lyre? |
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| 11:13.00 | jetscreamer | !info apt-spy |
| 11:13.02 | dpkg | apt-spy: (writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.1-14 (sid), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
| 11:13.20 | nuxien | dvm1981, |
| 11:13.20 | nuxien | * Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) |
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| 11:13.39 | jetscreamer | /ns help nuxien |
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| 11:13.49 | cpop | well, how about that banned ip? who takes care of #debian? |
| 11:14.03 | inane | Semprons ARE nice but they're (most of em) on a 64 bit socket 754 motherboard |
| 11:14.12 | inane | might as well get the most out of it |
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| 11:14.28 | ircdevil | cpop: /msg dpkg ops |
| 11:14.38 | tabloid | so witch version should i get |
| 11:14.46 | inane | ... |
| 11:14.50 | jetscreamer | they said i386 tabloid |
| 11:14.53 | cpop | thanks |
| 11:14.54 | tabloid | y |
| 11:14.56 | inane | check the number on the chip |
| 11:15.00 | tabloid | yust made sure |
| 11:15.01 | inane | some semprons are 64 |
| 11:15.11 | dvm1981 | nuxien: hhmmm, i read first some info on this site, i have not visited, and hope that i find some info that i would like |
| 11:15.15 | inane | they don't come right out and say it |
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| 11:15.32 | inane | here let me find that link tabloid |
| 11:15.34 | Guerin | it doesn't matter, if he doesn't know whether his cpu is 64-bit, he needs to use i386 |
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| 11:15.49 | inane | but he can find out |
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| 11:16.24 | jetscreamer | it's 5.30am i should go change the oil in my wife's car |
| 11:16.53 | myren | how do i make a file system within a file? |
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| 11:16.57 | myren | in particular, how do i make a RAID file system within a file |
| 11:16.59 | Guerin | jetscreamer: watch out for oilcicles |
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| 11:17.10 | bbls | ahh |
| 11:17.14 | bbls | one problem now |
| 11:17.26 | dvm1981 | nuxien: Im been reading the info there |
| 11:17.30 | SerajewelKS | myren: isn't RAID a storage interface, like IDE? |
| 11:17.41 | bbls | i've installed debian from net. i've installed grub from the installer. now i can't boot XP anymore |
| 11:17.47 | bbls | can someone tell me what can i do? |
| 11:18.06 | SerajewelKS | bbls: add a windows entry to grub's menu.lst |
| 11:18.12 | angrykeyboarder | You sound OK to me. ;-) |
| 11:18.14 | jetscreamer | bbls check /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 11:18.16 | myren | SerajewelKS: no, it means literally "redundant array of inexpensive disks"... |
| 11:18.35 | jetscreamer | you can also try grub setup program, i don't know the names offhand though |
| 11:18.39 | bbls | jetscreamer would it work simple as that? because i already have a windows entry there. the one that was autodetected during install. |
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| 11:19.04 | myren | SerajewelKS: it can be done with hardware ide or scsi or sata, there's no raid interface at all. RAID just means making many disks look like one disk, by whatever means, whether its a hardware controller that does that or a software system |
| 11:19.24 | jetscreamer | bbls: i can't swear, there are too many different things that could go wrong |
| 11:19.31 | Guerin | ok, wtf |
| 11:19.32 | SerajewelKS | myren: so RAID ~= LVM? |
| 11:19.44 | bbls | jetscreamer ok, thx anyway, i'll try to fix it somehow :) |
| 11:19.59 | Guerin | the fonts in the gui widgets of firefox aren't obeying the gtk theme |
| 11:20.00 | jetscreamer | bbls: but maybe it's just that simple like grub is trying to boot windows on the wrong hd |
| 11:20.11 | Guerin | today is font hell for me |
| 11:20.17 | bbls | all i need is to be able to open some EXCEL and WORD from linux. can i do that? if so then i wouldn't need windows anymore. |
| 11:20.27 | SerajewelKS | bbls: apt-get install openoffice.org |
| 11:20.28 | jetscreamer | bbls: openoffice |
| 11:20.30 | Phated | Ehm? oo.o? |
| 11:20.32 | Phated | :) |
| 11:20.35 | Guerin | bbls: openoffice.org can do that with varying degrees of success |
| 11:20.45 | bbls | beside openoffice. that's too bloated.? |
| 11:20.47 | jetscreamer | gnumeric does excel ok |
| 11:20.54 | bbls | ok |
| 11:20.56 | jetscreamer | abiword for word, but i dunno |
| 11:20.58 | SerajewelKS | bbls: koffice, abiword... others |
| 11:20.58 | Guerin | more complex excel spreadsheets will cause it to freak out and die, though |
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| 11:21.15 | angrykeyboarder | abiword gnumeric kword kcalc..... |
| 11:21.23 | bbls | i have an excel spreadsheet with numbers and simple addition and multiplication formulas |
| 11:21.29 | myren | SerajewelKS: no, there's a raid system built into linux. LVM is something more abstract. |
| 11:21.29 | jetscreamer | i've noticed some formatting differences/conflicts with word/abi... but i know nothing |
| 11:21.33 | SerajewelKS | bbls: but IMO the definition of "office suite" includes bloat |
| 11:21.38 | jetscreamer | just saw somebody's |
| 11:21.41 | bbls | SerajewelKS :) |
| 11:21.45 | inane | tabloid when did you buy your sempron system? |
| 11:22.14 | SerajewelKS | bbls: i'm a performance nut too, but OO.o is just too damn nifty, even with the bloat. of course it does do stupid things every so often, but hey, so does office. |
| 11:22.35 | SerajewelKS | myren: but they're conceptually the same thing, right? |
| 11:22.38 | bbls | what do i have to do in order to have print something from linux? i have a cannon bbj connected on usb |
| 11:22.44 | julle | how do i unzip .skz files? |
| 11:22.53 | nlindblad | could I please ask a question |
| 11:23.03 | azeem | nlindblad: don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 11:23.08 | nlindblad | I've installed Sarge |
| 11:23.10 | jetscreamer | !tell nlindblad -about ask |
| 11:23.18 | SerajewelKS | julle: what does 'file something.skz' say |
| 11:23.20 | nlindblad | but the CD was a few years old |
| 11:23.25 | nlindblad | so I ended up with testing |
| 11:23.33 | nlindblad | is there a safe way to downgrade to stable? |
| 11:23.40 | SerajewelKS | nlindblad: sure, reinstall |
| 11:23.46 | azeem | nlindblad: did you apt-get upgrade already over the internet? |
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| 11:23.55 | azeem | nlindblad: or just installed from CD? |
| 11:24.10 | inane | hmmm nevermind then |
| 11:24.13 | inane | hehe |
| 11:24.22 | bbls | how can i upgrate all my installed packages to latest stable? |
| 11:24.30 | SerajewelKS | bbls: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 11:24.31 | azeem | bbls: what are you running right now? |
| 11:24.43 | bbls | debian sarge i suppose :) |
| 11:25.04 | bbls | i've done a net install, is this automatically using latest stable? |
| 11:25.06 | resiak_ | nlindblad: You can't downgrade Debian. |
| 11:25.27 | dvm1981 | I need a little bit help to register a nick here, im to stupid to understand the info (im not sure and would not go on a wrong way) http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering |
| 11:25.29 | resiak_ | bbls: If you netinstalled Sarge, then yes. If you netinstalled Etch, then you installed the latest testing. |
| 11:25.31 | azeem | resiak_: if he installed testing from two years ago, he can technically upgrade to sarge |
| 11:25.32 | nlindblad | resiak_, why not? |
| 11:25.40 | azeem | nlindblad: can answer my question, please? |
| 11:25.41 | valdyn | bbls: yes |
| 11:25.42 | nlindblad | azeem, upgraded already |
| 11:25.50 | azeem | nlindblad: then you cannot downgrade, it is not supported |
| 11:25.52 | resiak_ | !tell nlindblad -about downgrade |
| 11:26.08 | valdyn | dvm1981: /msg nickerv help |
| 11:26.08 | dvm1981 | So i need to enter this here '/msg nickserv register <your-password>' |
| 11:26.19 | nlindblad | okey |
| 11:26.21 | nlindblad | reinstall then |
| 11:26.23 | Guerin | dvm1981: suggest you choose a different password |
| 11:26.30 | jetscreamer | bbls: less /etc/apt/sources.list and look for sarge/stable or etch/testing |
| 11:26.31 | nlindblad | took 15 minutes so it's not a big deal |
| 11:26.34 | dvm1981 | im /ignored, i have no more THE tools |
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| 11:26.58 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: /ns help |
| 11:27.08 | dvm1981 | I can not recieve help because i have abuse the bots here ... |
| 11:27.13 | valdyn | nlindblad: you ended up with a testing version BEFORE sarge was release, so you can probably _upgrade_ to sarge just fine |
| 11:27.17 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: /ns help |
| 11:27.22 | azeem | dvm1981: what are you talking about? |
| 11:27.30 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: yep, thats work ;-) |
| 11:27.34 | nlindblad | valdyn, how? |
| 11:27.38 | azeem | valdyn: 12:19 < nlindblad> azeem, upgraded already |
| 11:27.49 | valdyn | azeem: oo |
| 11:27.49 | nlindblad | I started of with Sarge testing |
| 11:27.50 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: nickserv != dpkg or apt |
| 11:27.55 | nlindblad | now I'm just up to testing |
| 11:28.01 | dvm1981 | azeem: im blacklisted or so because i have abused the robots here, i have asked to many times the bot |
| 11:28.02 | azeem | nlindblad: you can't go back |
| 11:28.06 | nlindblad | debian-31r1a-i386-netinst.iso # is that the stable one? |
| 11:28.07 | valdyn | nlindblad: if you already upgraded to current testing, then you should reinstall indeed to get sarge |
| 11:28.16 | azeem | dvm1981: what does that have to do with nickserv? |
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| 11:28.43 | dvm1981 | azeem: hhhmmm, i don't know :-/ |
| 11:28.55 | azeem | dvm1981: nickserv is a network-wide service |
| 11:29.04 | azeem | dvm1981: and it is off-topic here |
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| 11:29.17 | azeem | dvm1981: you can probably ask for help with it in #freenode, if you cannot manage to register |
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| 11:29.27 | dvm1981 | azeem: Ok |
| 11:29.29 | SerajewelKS | azeem: #freenode is the staff channel |
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| 11:29.42 | azeem | dvm1981: why does "/msg nickserv help" not work? |
| 11:30.02 | azeem | SerajewelKS: so what is the support channel? |
| 11:30.11 | SerajewelKS | azeem: good question, let me know if you find one |
| 11:30.14 | dvm1981 | azeem: no it whas not that one that not work |
| 11:30.26 | azeem | dvm1981: ok |
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| 11:30.47 | dvm1981 | azeem: The other bots here in #debian |
| 11:31.02 | azeem | dvm1981: well, why do you abuse them? |
| 11:31.05 | Phated | That's irrelevant to nickserv issues :) |
| 11:31.11 | sanmarcos | I have an HD (vfat, 8gb), the partition is ok, but now it only reckognizes 200mb, and all with garbaged files, any ideas on what might have happened? |
| 11:31.38 | azeem | dvm1981: so "/msg dpkg hi" returns an error message? |
| 11:31.47 | dvm1981 | azeem: i have speak to many off topic, to many use of dpkg, ... I use the STUFF ITS ALL an now im blacklisted |
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| 11:31.59 | azeem | STUFF ITS ALL? |
| 11:32.22 | azeem | dvm1981: ah, so you get removed from dpkg access by a channel operator? |
| 11:32.23 | dvm1981 | azeem: no |
| 11:32.35 | bbls | how can i check how much memory is free? |
| 11:32.41 | SerajewelKS | bbls: free |
| 11:32.42 | bbls | beside from /proc |
| 11:32.45 | bbls | ok |
| 11:32.49 | Phated | Prolly autoignored by dpkg. |
| 11:33.00 | dvm1981 | azeem: no error |
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| 11:33.04 | azeem | dvm1981: but? |
| 11:33.19 | azeem | no answer? |
| 11:33.34 | dvm1981 | azeem: Yes ? English is not my native language :-/ |
| 11:33.40 | veleno | is there some faq where it explains why it's not possible to mount empty cdrom/dvd ? |
| 11:33.52 | azeem | veleno: you can only mount file systems |
| 11:33.54 | SerajewelKS | veleno: how about "because there's no filesystem on it" |
| 11:34.09 | azeem | dvm1981: well, you will have to do without dpkg for a while then |
| 11:34.43 | Phated | Or talk to donde lelcaro and say you're sorry. |
| 11:34.45 | dvm1981 | azeem: bbbwwwaaa, i have no other choixe man, i can no more access it. |
| 11:35.17 | inane | Linux is like math it's it's own langua |
| 11:35.40 | dvm1981 | azeem: It's better that i forget that thing here and continue alone, i have no problems wiht that |
| 11:35.52 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: its the 200mb on windows or linux? |
| 11:36.22 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: both, /dev/hdd1 195M 98M 98M 51% /mnt/ademas but Disk /dev/hdd: 8455 MB, 8455200768 bytes dev/hdd1 1 1022 8241376+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) |
| 11:36.32 | inane | ./bootstrap ./configure make make install dvm1981? |
| 11:36.33 | dvm1981 | azeem: I have tested with another nick and that work, but with another nick |
| 11:36.46 | inane | there's ALWAYS the old school way |
| 11:36.46 | Phated | dpkg ignores by nick. |
| 11:37.02 | Astar | anyone knows a video converter from .mov to .avi ? ( not transcode ) |
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| 11:37.08 | dvm1981 | inane: How would you that im help you if i have 50% of the tools here ... |
| 11:37.09 | sanmarcos | Astar: mencoder |
| 11:37.11 | SerajewelKS | Astar: mencoder |
| 11:37.16 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: was it previously a 8GB filesystem? |
| 11:37.21 | azeem | dvm1981: tell people to "/msg dpkg foo" |
| 11:37.25 | azeem | that will help them |
| 11:37.34 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: yes, it was, i had it unplugged for a few months |
| 11:37.40 | azeem | dvm1981: you didn't call the bot a lot in here, did you /msg it the whole time in a private room? |
| 11:37.41 | kaptanoguz | notebook ta debian kurulumu iƧin yardım edecek birisi var mı?????? |
| 11:37.50 | resiak_ | !kurumin |
| 11:37.50 | dpkg | Kurumin Linux is a Brazilian run-from-CD Linux distribution based on Knoppix. That means it's not debian. Go away.. Ajuda pra Kurumin: http://www.kurumin.com.br |
| 11:37.51 | dvm1981 | azeem: I do nothings more here, ... snif snif |
| 11:37.56 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: I'm going to guess random magnetic fields damaged the data |
| 11:37.59 | Ender | anybody that know how to prevent vesafb and vga16fb from loading? |
| 11:38.07 | azeem | kaptanoguz: this is an english channel |
| 11:38.07 | azeem | !tr |
| 11:38.07 | dpkg | tr is, like, türkēe yardIm iēin #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 11:38.18 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: how is that possible (I Have 4 hds stacked on this box) |
| 11:38.36 | *** part/#debian zenwryly (i=xen@lefae.org) |
| 11:38.38 | dvm1981 | azeem: I have not been understand the last one. |
| 11:38.53 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: dunno, maybe it got a physical shock, maybe the data just degraded |
| 11:39.06 | kaptanoguz | ok azeem |
| 11:39.12 | dvm1981 | azeem: Understand, yes, |
| 11:39.22 | azeem | dvm1981: well, register your nickt, maybe dpkg speaks to you again then |
| 11:39.25 | dvm1981 | azeem: I have use it to many |
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| 11:39.36 | azeem | dvm1981: well, do not abuse it |
| 11:39.41 | azeem | dvm1981: dpkg is a tool not a toy |
| 11:39.41 | dvm1981 | azeem: No, im not well |
| 11:39.42 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: I fucking hate maxtor |
| 11:39.52 | buu | dvm1981: You aren't identified. |
| 11:39.53 | azeem | dvm1981: I don't understand |
| 11:39.58 | Astar | hum i dont find it with apt |
| 11:40.00 | myren | hrm, so i can just mkfs.ext3 random files and mount them -o loop.... |
| 11:40.03 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: what about a little water? I mean i accidentaly droped just a little water, but then cleaned it off |
| 11:40.06 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: I believe you'll find that that no one manufacturer is better than another |
| 11:40.10 | buu | dvm1981: Things on freenode can't get messages from unidentifyed users. |
| 11:40.10 | kaptanoguz | i have a installation problem for my notebook... |
| 11:40.13 | myren | the q now is how do i get raid system to work like that |
| 11:40.19 | azeem | buu: well, dpkg does I think |
| 11:40.21 | SerajewelKS | bbrazil: except that maxtor sucks ;) |
| 11:40.21 | kaptanoguz | do uhelp me? |
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| 11:40.25 | dvm1981 | azeem: im not happy anymore here |
| 11:40.33 | buu | azeem: Really? I kind of thought that was a ircd setting at the moment.. |
| 11:40.33 | azeem | dvm1981: I am sorry to hear that |
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| 11:40.49 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: unless it got inside the sealed enclosure of the disk I doubt it |
| 11:40.51 | azeem | buu: it is a default yes, but you can change it |
| 11:41.03 | dvm1981 | azeem: No man, it's my fault |
| 11:41.04 | buu | Well then, who knows. |
| 11:41.06 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: electroncics would be fine as long as it wasn't turned on |
| 11:41.24 | azeem | dvm1981: I told you how to fix it. Register your nick. |
| 11:41.28 | dvm1981 | buu: I have not registred a nick and so |
| 11:41.30 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: right.. well I am pretty much fucked right? |
| 11:41.31 | azeem | dvm1981: talking about it in here will not help |
| 11:41.49 | SerajewelKS | bbrazil: maybe in the cleaning process some static stuff happened? (guessing) |
| 11:41.54 | dvm1981 | azeem: Yes, that's right, another day, when im happyer |
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| 11:42.06 | scanwinder | im trying to recompile my kernel and take out all the things i dont need using "make menuconfig", im not entirely sure if i should turn a lot of stuff on or off, where can i go for more information on them? i can find very little information about the hardware(compaq armada 1560D laptop) |
| 11:42.09 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: possibly, there might be ways to recover. first dump the entire partition somewhere else |
| 11:42.35 | SerajewelKS | scanwinder: unless you have a really good reason for that (e.g. storage space is at a premium) just use a stock kernel |
| 11:42.39 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: how? |
| 11:42.46 | dvm1981 | azeem: I do it, sure ;-) |
| 11:42.51 | bbrazil | SerajewelKS: maybe, but a HDD is a faraday cage so isn't likely to affect the platters. electronics could be damaged |
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| 11:43.04 | SerajewelKS | bbrazil: true |
| 11:43.06 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: cat /dev/hdd1 > /path/to/somehwere |
| 11:43.34 | scanwinder | SerajewelKS: storage is an issue on it and also i want to get more speed - its pentium mmx 166mhz |
| 11:43.36 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: only 200mb, ok let me see |
| 11:43.54 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: no, 8GB |
| 11:44.02 | SerajewelKS | bbrazil: i'll be darned, wikipedia doesn't have an article on the faraday cage |
| 11:44.13 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: wouldnt dd be more useful? |
| 11:44.13 | SerajewelKS | bbrazil: or yeah it does |
| 11:44.22 | bbls | SerajewelKS that's strange.. |
| 11:44.34 | bbrazil | SerajewelKS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage |
| 11:45.09 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: only as it'll tell you how much was transfered |
| 11:45.11 | SerajewelKS | bbrazil: yeah i found that, i had a typo in my search |
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| 11:46.20 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: well I dont have 8 free gb, what would I do once the data is dumped? |
| 11:47.13 | bbls | the installation phase of gnome takes more than the download one :) |
| 11:47.27 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: in that case don't dump it, look at the partition beyond the 200MB boundry and see if your data is still there somewhere |
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| 11:48.24 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: there isnt a 200mb boundary, fdisk displays a 8gb partition |
| 11:48.30 | bbls | how do i install X? |
| 11:48.38 | SerajewelKS | bbls: sarge or etch? |
| 11:48.41 | sanmarcos | bbls: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 11:48.44 | bbls | ok |
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| 11:48.59 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: the virtual boundary of what the vfs picks up |
| 11:49.10 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: ls hangs my terminal, |
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| 11:49.30 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: /var/log/kern.log - errors? |
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| 11:49.44 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: a lot of hd access, no hd errors |
| 11:49.46 | bbls | SerajewelKS sarge, but what app do i use now to actually configure it? |
| 11:49.55 | bbls | i have a SiS card |
| 11:49.57 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: hd access? |
| 11:49.59 | SerajewelKS | !drxx bbls |
| 11:50.00 | dpkg | bbls: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 11:50.21 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: hd activity I mean, ls cant even be killed by ^C, I killed it with killall |
| 11:51.00 | nlindblad | doesn't cdrecord come with DVD-R support? |
| 11:51.26 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: so the ls is properly killed? it isn't hanging around still? |
| 11:51.47 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: no, ls can be killed with killall ls -KILL from another term |
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| 11:52.11 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: thats a dangerous way to do it. you should figure out the pid via ps and then use kill |
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| 11:52.30 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: dangerous? |
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| 11:52.42 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: I guess I could kill -9 $(pidof ls) |
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| 11:52.53 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: well never run killall on solaris ;), more practically you could have killed other ls processes |
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| 11:53.09 | sanmarcos | yeah, but I only have one anyways bbrazil |
| 11:53.21 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: clearly it is not hardware problem but a data corruption due to an unknown factor |
| 11:53.50 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: with a HDD that hasn't been used for a few month, I'd go for hardware |
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| 11:54.21 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: I just want to salvage some of the data, I dont care about the hd |
| 11:54.25 | ircdevil | solaris -> grab power cord -> pull |
| 11:54.41 | bbrazil | ircdevil: stop-a |
| 11:55.05 | ircdevil | solaris == door stopper |
| 11:55.06 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: If its text data should be possible, otherwise have fun |
| 11:55.20 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: what do you mean with text data? |
| 11:55.33 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: anything you can grep easily |
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| 11:55.48 | bbrazil | ircdevil: but I like my 19u door stopper |
| 11:55.58 | Notrebdn | hi |
| 11:56.10 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: not music or videos I take.. |
| 11:56.36 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: no, but specalied tools probably exists to recover from vfat - probably all windows based |
| 11:56.36 | ircdevil | bbrazil: put debian on the thing ... |
| 11:56.39 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: I cant cat /dev/hdd into another hd? as cat /dev/hdd > /dev/hde |
| 11:56.44 | nlindblad | I downloaded an ISO from http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable and burned it |
| 11:56.54 | nlindblad | that should be Sarge (stable), right? |
| 11:57.04 | bbrazil | ircdevil: based on reports from other people who did similar, not the best of ideas. setting the date hangs the system |
| 11:57.08 | ircdevil | nlindblad: correct |
| 11:57.15 | nlindblad | reinstall then |
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| 11:57.17 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: yes |
| 11:57.17 | nlindblad | laters |
| 11:57.33 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: but that would be the same, just copying the hd.. |
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| 11:57.50 | sanmarcos | the data, that could help me nail down if its hard or data issue |
| 11:57.57 | bbrazil | ircdevil: I'm also somewhat wary of running linux on a webserver for local root exploit reasons |
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| 11:58.16 | bbrazil | sanmarcos: I meant yes you can do that |
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| 11:58.29 | ircdevil | bbrazil: and you think solaris is more safe? |
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| 11:59.26 | sanmarcos | bbrazil: thanks for the help, ill go checkout some vfat recovery tools |
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| 11:59.34 | hid3 | Morning everyone. Today I did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. The process came to mysqld installation. However, I get the following error message: "ERROR: There's not enough space in /var/lib/mysql/" But there's about 2 GB free space on my root partition. What's wrong? |
| 11:59.39 | bbrazil | ircdevil: I think that if yet another bot gets in, its more likely to try a linux exploit than a solaris one. There's been a lot of linux exploit in the past few years. solaris only had 1 |
| 11:59.48 | ircdevil | "many users finds many bugs; few users finds few bugs; no users finds no bugs - system with no bugs == safe" |
| 11:59.52 | ircdevil | quote me |
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| 12:01.20 | Miesco | Okay how do I get VCard and GnomeCard? |
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| 12:01.28 | bbrazil | hid3: is /var on a seperate partition? |
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| 12:01.35 | hid3 | no it isn't |
| 12:01.42 | WebMonkey | I miss my Debian :-/ |
| 12:01.43 | ircdevil | dpkg bug-quote is <reply> "many users finds many bugs; few users finds few bugs; no users finds no bugs - system with no bugs == safe" |
| 12:01.43 | dpkg | okay, ircdevil |
| 12:02.13 | WebMonkey | what do you guys think about wireless laptops |
| 12:02.55 | ircdevil | that they must be recharded with a manual handle or some induction system |
| 12:02.59 | ircdevil | recharged |
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| 12:03.13 | WebMonkey | oh |
| 12:03.25 | fransemail | hi folks |
| 12:03.38 | WebMonkey | my name is Mr Rogers |
| 12:03.40 | WebMonkey | how strange |
| 12:04.01 | fransemail | I installed openvpn and I configured it with ca.crt/client.crt/client.key obtained from office network admin |
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| 12:04.18 | blondie | WebMonkey: do you use crappy bitchx? |
| 12:04.19 | fransemail | when I try to connect with openvpn an error occurs: Cannot load private key file key/client.key: error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line: error:140B0009:SSL routines:SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file:PEM lib |
| 12:04.50 | fransemail | Does anyone know how to fix such a problem? |
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| 12:09.52 | kristalino | where is the place to configure tun/tap on debian ? |
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| 12:14.26 | WebMonkey | blondie: no way |
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| 12:15.58 | sep | kristalino, read /usr/share/doc/vtun/README.Debian if your taling vtun tun's |
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| 12:17.47 | WebMonkey | i cannot run Debian anymore |
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| 12:18.12 | WebMonkey | I went wireless 2 months ago and havent been able to get the wifi nic supported in Deb |
| 12:18.13 | liable | WebMonkey: sucks to be you then |
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| 12:18.16 | WebMonkey | :-< |
| 12:18.18 | WebMonkey | yup |
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| 12:18.49 | liable | WebMonkey: if it runs in kinux, then you can get it working in debian |
| 12:18.50 | WebMonkey | the card is a D-Link DWL-G650+ AirPlus G+ |
| 12:18.51 | Miesco | How do I get GnomeCard??? |
| 12:18.59 | liable | s/k/l/ |
| 12:19.08 | WebMonkey | i wish I knew how |
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| 12:19.31 | WebMonkey | I assumed it would be easy to use as plugging it in and using it like a regular pcmcia nic |
| 12:19.39 | WebMonkey | but it seems theres more to it than that |
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| 12:19.54 | Metrics | WebMonkey: I have the same card. |
| 12:19.59 | WebMonkey | woah |
| 12:20.00 | liable | yes, more than likely, debian isnt quite like windows... |
| 12:20.04 | WebMonkey | and it works in Deb? |
| 12:20.06 | Metrics | WebMonkey: Use the madwifi drivers. |
| 12:20.09 | pgimeno | hi, I'm trying the following command: "apt-file list apt-file" but it does not display any results. Any tip? |
| 12:20.12 | Metrics | Yep. Excellently. |
| 12:20.14 | WebMonkey | okay |
| 12:20.19 | WebMonkey | thanks :D |
| 12:20.26 | Metrics | What version of Deb are you using. |
| 12:20.26 | Metrics | ? |
| 12:20.35 | pgimeno | stable |
| 12:20.45 | Metrics | Sorry, that was aimed at WebMonkey |
| 12:20.51 | pgimeno | oops :) |
| 12:20.55 | Metrics | ;) |
| 12:20.59 | WebMonkey | Metrics: latest testing, and kernel 2.6.8 |
| 12:21.13 | liable | Armed_boS: why would anyone go out of there way to /msg you to give you a shell account? |
| 12:21.25 | liable | !madwifi |
| 12:21.25 | dpkg | [madwifi] at http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian, or #madwifi, or http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi, or to install madwifi drivers built against standard Debian kernel images (woody/sarge only) see '/msg dpkg madwifi-install' |
| 12:21.27 | Metrics | WebMonkey: If you do some research you'll see that madwifi recently changed to a new generation. |
| 12:21.31 | loxley | Armed_boS: buy one or make one yourself |
| 12:21.38 | WebMonkey | phew |
| 12:21.47 | Metrics | WebMonkey: But I have an old copy that I know works well, from old madwifi. |
| 12:21.48 | blondie | liable: because they're as silly as he is? :) |
| 12:21.53 | liable | Metrics: still old code .debs atm though |
| 12:21.56 | WebMonkey | Metrics: is madwifi involved to setup? |
| 12:21.59 | Metrics | WebMonkey: Compiles without a problem. |
| 12:21.59 | liable | blondie: indeed :) |
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| 12:22.20 | WebMonkey | sheesh. i have to compile code?? |
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| 12:22.26 | liable | yes |
| 12:22.29 | WebMonkey | wtf |
| 12:22.29 | Metrics | WebMonkey: It's not hard. |
| 12:22.37 | WebMonkey | I'm screwed then |
| 12:22.49 | Metrics | WebMonkey: Just looking for the instructions I made/. |
| 12:22.53 | WebMonkey | ok |
| 12:23.33 | pgimeno | do I need to specify the sources.list location to apt-file manually? if so, what is its default place? |
| 12:23.52 | epsilon | compile what? |
| 12:23.53 | WebMonkey | default is /etc/apt/ |
| 12:24.05 | liable | pgimeno: no, you run apt-file update, then apt-file search foo |
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| 12:24.19 | WebMonkey | epsilon: madwifi |
| 12:24.33 | pgimeno | liable: oh thanks! I thought that update was implicit with apt-cache |
| 12:24.52 | WebMonkey | I have an ear infection, throat infection, and virtigo |
| 12:24.59 | Metrics | WebMonkey: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo |
| 12:25.00 | liable | WebMonkey: if you go where dpkg just siad, then you can use m-a and its a matter of one command to compile |
| 12:25.41 | Metrics | liable: I could never get it to work like that. But maybe WebMonkey will have more luck. |
| 12:25.41 | WebMonkey | liable: thanks that'll do me |
| 12:26.08 | WebMonkey | i want Deb back on my laptop |
| 12:26.13 | liable | Metrics: i used to compile it, but now its in the repos, and m-a does it nice, theres even a repo for sarge for it. |
| 12:26.22 | WebMonkey | i can only stomach XP for so long |
| 12:26.42 | Metrics | liable: Fair enough...should try that when I have time. |
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| 12:27.31 | liable | Metrics: apt-get madwifi-source; m-a a-i madwifi-source; done :) |
| 12:27.39 | WebMonkey | phew |
| 12:28.06 | Metrics | liable: Yeah, but I don't like screwing with things that work. |
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| 12:28.41 | Metrics | liable: Especially seeing as I run sarge for that very reason and had to pull a whole bunch of wifi related stuff from sid so that wpa_supplicant would work right. |
| 12:28.55 | pgimeno | liable: thank you very much, it works perfectly now |
| 12:29.13 | liable | Metrics: those sarge madwifi source debs should work with the sarge wpa-sup package |
| 12:29.19 | liable | pgimeno: np |
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| 12:30.12 | Metrics | liable: Yeah, but the sarge packages had an issue with my router (if I remember correctly) so I had to change. Although I could just be spouting bs...it's late here. |
| 12:30.26 | liable | heh |
| 12:31.16 | liable | i have had problems with wpa-sup and madwifi, but only for recent code. |
| 12:31.37 | Metrics | Do you mean ng? |
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| 12:31.58 | Metrics | I haven't actually tried it yet. |
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| 12:32.21 | liable | no, even the old code,(new versions) but wasnt supported with the wpa-sup i was running |
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| 12:33.01 | WebMonkey | liable,metrics: i copied all your notes into a text file and across to my PDA and im reading them now and ready to reboot to Linux, thanx guys |
| 12:33.44 | WebMonkey | hope it goes smooothly |
| 12:34.03 | Metrics | WebMonkey: np. |
| 12:35.17 | liable | WebMonkey: you will need kernel headers though, but madwifi-source should pull them in if you get it from the repo.. |
| 12:35.51 | liable | WebMonkey: and biuld-essential |
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| 12:35.55 | liable | build.. |
| 12:36.18 | ratm` | hi, ive got problems starting ethereal under ubuntu (nobody could help me in their channel) http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/mpEDd594.html is it because of a wrong kernel configuration ? |
| 12:36.52 | streuner | ratm`: this is #debian not #ubuntu |
| 12:37.01 | liable | !they don't know |
| 12:37.01 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 12:37.19 | ratm` | oh im sorry :( |
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| 12:38.35 | Metrics | Speaking of ethereal, I can't get it to start either. Or gtk-pod...something to do with critical assertions. |
| 12:38.48 | streuner | Metrics: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 12:39.23 | Metrics | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 12:39.29 | azeem | sanmarcos: please stop trolling in Debian developer channels |
| 12:39.30 | Metrics | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.41 | Pimpi | there's a program that converts texts into ascii-art like pics, can't remember the name though. any idea? |
| 12:39.54 | Pimpi | searching for 20 minutes without success |
| 12:39.54 | asg | Pimpi: figlet |
| 12:39.54 | streuner | Metrics: what command did you use and what error you got? |
| 12:40.02 | asg | Pimpi: cowsay |
| 12:40.06 | Pimpi | asg yeah, thats it :) |
| 12:40.18 | Pimpi | figlet, that is |
| 12:40.23 | Pimpi | tx asg |
| 12:40.27 | Metrics | streuner: What do you mean? I just call ethereal from an xterm |
| 12:40.29 | asg | Pimpi: you're welcome |
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| 12:40.42 | streuner | Metrics: any error? |
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| 12:40.52 | Metrics | streuner: Yeah...pastebin? |
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| 12:41.00 | streuner | would be fine |
| 12:41.37 | djp | if i run a script file, does the action get logged anywhere? |
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| 12:42.20 | asg | djp: ? |
| 12:42.37 | Metrics | streuner: In #flood |
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| 12:42.46 | liable | ohnos |
| 12:42.52 | asg | he's back |
| 12:43.08 | streuner | !paste |
| 12:43.08 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
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| 12:43.51 | Metrics | streuner: I dropped the errors into #flood. |
| 12:44.30 | liable | whats the cowsay command, its like sodomy or something? (fucking funny though) |
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| 12:44.57 | asg | liable: I always like 'cowsay -f stimpy foo' myself |
| 12:45.00 | rutski89 | If execute permissions applied to a direcotry indicate if a user can enter it or not, then what do read permissions mean on a directory? |
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| 12:45.28 | asg | liable: 'cowsay -f sodomized' |
| 12:45.45 | azeem | rutski89: whether you can list the content I think |
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| 12:45.58 | azeem | i.e., run ls on it |
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| 12:46.25 | liable | asg: heh, thats it :) |
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| 12:47.30 | djp | asg, basically if i run a .shell file, is there a log of when that file was run? |
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| 12:47.45 | liable | no |
| 12:47.49 | asg | djp: no, unless you run snooper or somesuch |
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| 12:48.03 | djp | thanks ag |
| 12:48.07 | asg | djp: or the acct package |
| 12:48.11 | djp | thanks asg |
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| 12:49.14 | abrotman | CyberScripter: STOP SPAMMING |
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| 12:52.21 | bbls | hi again |
| 12:52.29 | bbls | how can i add an usb printer? |
| 12:52.44 | liable | with cups admin page? |
| 12:52.52 | bbls | cups? |
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| 12:53.04 | deadcat | bbls: localhost:631 |
| 12:53.07 | liable | !printing |
| 12:53.08 | dpkg | printer is probably a device that allows you to put things from your computer onto paper, envelopes, or whatever. don't forget to check http://www.linuxprinting.org, or a hardcopy output device. easy to set up using foomatic-gui |
| 12:53.15 | ircdevil | !tell bbls about cups |
| 12:53.44 | liable | bbls: please at least try and do a little bit of research. |
| 12:53.57 | bbls | i can't do too much research in text mode |
| 12:54.01 | bbls | links sucks :) |
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| 12:54.32 | jetscreamer | /msg CyberScripter it's an irc, not a irc |
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| 12:54.33 | asg | thanks azeem |
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| 12:54.44 | Metrics | streuner: I don't remember ever actually changing the font. |
| 12:54.47 | liable | yay |
| 12:54.54 | ircdevil | azeem: nice one |
| 12:55.08 | darkhunter | woow e17 is cool |
| 12:55.16 | darkhunter | realy cool |
| 12:55.25 | streuner | Metrics: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 12:55.29 | abrotman | just imagine if they ever release it :) |
| 12:55.31 | liable | sssh.. dont tell gnea.. |
| 12:55.35 | drac | and feels like it's under heavy development as nothing really works :P |
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| 12:55.44 | liable | hah |
| 12:55.52 | darkhunter | :) |
| 12:56.00 | streuner | Metrics: man xterm or whatever you use to see how you change the fonts there |
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| 12:56.24 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 12:56.29 | Metrics | streuner: I changed the font in the gtkrc file in my ~. |
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| 12:56.41 | Mazingaro | please, I've got unknown erro code 255 with mkisofs (dvd burning) |
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| 12:57.00 | zafix | Hello, im running debian sarge testing, after rebooting my sound doenst work anymore, how do i have to configure it ? |
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| 12:57.21 | darkhunter | zafix: use alsa-mixer |
| 12:57.21 | ircdevil | zafix: run alsa-mixer and unmute |
| 12:57.23 | jetscreamer | how many times sos |
| 12:57.31 | zafix | okay thx |
| 12:57.40 | liable | zafix: modprobe your sound module, then add it to /etc/modules. |
| 12:57.55 | josep | or try to run alsaconf again |
| 12:57.57 | zafix | liable how do i know what module it is |
| 12:58.04 | Gnea | what? |
| 12:58.05 | zafix | btw i dont have alsa-mixer |
| 12:58.16 | liable | zafix: by finding out what the card is and googling. |
| 12:58.21 | Metrics | zafix: The easiest way is do lsmod to a file before running alsaconf. And then diff it with afterwards. |
| 12:58.25 | liable | zafix: install alsa-base |
| 12:58.25 | streuner | zafix: aumix would work too |
| 12:58.39 | darkhunter | install alsa-utils ? |
| 12:58.50 | drac | zafix: just run alsaconf.. |
| 12:59.22 | zafix | drac i dont have alsaconf but i will search |
| 12:59.36 | liable | zafix: install alsa-base |
| 12:59.45 | zafix | ok |
| 12:59.56 | streuner | Metrics: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/07/msg00797.html |
| 13:00.18 | zafix | liable, ok i installed alsa-base |
| 13:00.30 | liable | now run alsaconf |
| 13:00.44 | liable | then alsamixer, then alsactl store |
| 13:00.56 | zafix | liable there is no alsaconf |
| 13:01.12 | liable | zafix: are you using ubuntu? |
| 13:01.18 | zafix | no debian testing |
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| 13:01.47 | Metrics | streuner: Wow. Exact same font and everything...I don't know why my google searches didn't pick it up. |
| 13:01.54 | zafix | bash: alsaconf: command not found |
| 13:01.55 | liable | zafix: did alsa-base pull in alsa-utils? |
| 13:01.57 | Metrics | streuner: Thanks again for the help. |
| 13:02.11 | liable | zafix: as root.. |
| 13:02.21 | zafix | liable, only alsa-base linux-sound-base |
| 13:02.29 | Mazingaro | please, I've got "unknown error code 255" with mkisofs (dvd burning) |
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| 13:03.09 | liable | zafix: install it then sorry, i thought it was a depends of alsa-base.. |
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| 13:03.39 | abrotman | google says nothing about error 255 ? |
| 13:03.55 | zafix | liable its working |
| 13:03.58 | zafix | thx :) |
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| 13:04.27 | CAiRO | is someone using cacti? i have a data input method called "unix - get tcp connections" but how do i create a graph from it? |
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| 13:08.17 | saloxin_ | what's the drill for getting kernels > 2.6.8 to a sarge box? i seem to remember some problems with kernels > 2.6.12? |
| 13:08.18 | jetscreamer | anybody know a good howto about installing and configuring apt for rhel3 ? |
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| 13:08.47 | abrotman | jetscreamer: #redhat ? |
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| 13:09.06 | abrotman | saloxin_: grab the one in etch .. enjoy |
| 13:09.10 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.19 | saloxin_ | abrotman: heh cool, will test it |
| 13:09.30 | abrotman | saloxin_: what do you mean >.12 has issues ? |
| 13:09.45 | jetscreamer | but that wasn't what i asked :) |
| 13:09.55 | valdyn | saloxin_: its no problem at all, just using newer debian kernel images from testing or sid does not work |
| 13:09.59 | liable | i think he wrongly means the udev thing.. |
| 13:10.02 | jetscreamer | anyway gtg |
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| 13:10.55 | valdyn | saloxin_: self compiled kernels however are mostly no problem |
| 13:11.00 | abrotman | valdyn: the etch one does |
| 13:11.39 | valdyn | abrotman: etch's linux-image does not need yaird yet? |
| 13:11.40 | liable | i think its only > 2.6.14 with the yaird thing innit? |
| 13:12.03 | abrotman | valdyn: not that i'm aware .. i dn't recall having a kernel update anytime in the last few months |
| 13:12.18 | abrotman | valdyn: and i don't have yaird installed |
| 13:12.20 | valdyn | abrotman: hehe, i see |
| 13:12.30 | valdyn | abrotman: yea that change is not that old |
| 13:13.10 | abrotman | and given all the problems yaird was having .. it may not get to etch for a while |
| 13:13.18 | abrotman | and of course .. i think backports.org has a newer kernel |
| 13:13.24 | liable | is it not in etch now? |
| 13:13.31 | abrotman | what? |
| 13:13.35 | liable | yaird |
| 13:13.43 | abrotman | etch has 2.6.12 with no yaird that i can see |
| 13:13.48 | zafix | i installed 2.6.15 with nothing extra packages |
| 13:13.53 | valdyn | saloxin_: you can still try an etch linux-image anyway, if it fails it will do so with a nice error message |
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| 13:15.36 | mrverbos1 | grrml |
| 13:15.43 | valdyn | new kernels also break some sarge userspace kernel tools |
| 13:15.44 | abrotman | vrml ? |
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| 13:15.59 | asg | abrotman: the grumbly greycat modeling language |
| 13:16.10 | abrotman | asg: mostly involving CAPS and FUCK |
| 13:16.17 | asg | abrotman: and ECHAN |
| 13:16.22 | abrotman | heh |
| 13:16.57 | mrverbos1 | can anyone help me with this error: ssh connect to host $host port 22: cannot assign requested address |
| 13:17.10 | mrverbos1 | i do not know whats going on |
| 13:17.17 | abrotman | can any other client ssh to the host? |
| 13:17.26 | abrotman | can you from that client ssh to toher hosts ? |
| 13:17.28 | mrverbos1 | just that not only ssh but every tcp based seems to fail with that error |
| 13:17.31 | mrverbos1 | or a similar one |
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| 13:17.54 | mrverbos1 | even telnet $somewhere_that_works does result in the same problem |
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| 13:18.16 | mrverbos1 | network is up and i can ping arround even to the internet |
| 13:18.19 | valdyn | mrverbos1: paste the precise error message |
| 13:18.32 | mrverbos1 | valdyn: that WAS the precise error message |
| 13:18.51 | mrverbos1 | it doesnt say more than that |
| 13:18.54 | abrotman | try using verbose with ssh |
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| 13:20.19 | mrverbos1 | abrotman: nothing more, some more status debugs, but no real additional error |
| 13:20.30 | mrverbos1 | i think something went wrong with the grsecurity patches |
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| 13:20.41 | tonyb2006 | hii |
| 13:21.09 | abrotman | mrverbos1: well .. that could certainly be possible |
| 13:21.09 | adioe3 | Hi all. How to I 'turn on 32 bit emulation in the core' of a amd64 Debian system? |
| 13:21.23 | abrotman | it's alwyas on |
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| 13:21.29 | saloxin_ | abrotman: some change demanding newer versions of module-init-tools, udev etc |
| 13:21.30 | tonyb2006 | ist it "linux32 <program>" |
| 13:21.30 | abrotman | and it's not emulation |
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| 13:21.47 | adioe3 | abrotman: The problem is actually in the nvidia driver, it won't work. |
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| 13:22.05 | abrotman | saloxin_: no .. newer udev from etch *needs* a 2.6.12 .. but tha'ts just Md |
| 13:22.13 | saloxin_ | valdyn: gonna test etch linux-image-2.6.12 :-) |
| 13:22.14 | adioe3 | And I have a 6600 GeForce card. |
| 13:22.15 | tonyb2006 | doesnt the nvidia installer compile one |
| 13:22.20 | saloxin_ | abrotman: ah. yhanks |
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| 13:22.24 | abrotman | adioe3: get the 64bit driver for it |
| 13:22.42 | abrotman | saloxin_: if you don't use udev .. i'm not sure you'll notice .. i mean .. or you'll notice really quickly :) |
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| 13:22.57 | adioe3 | abrotman: do you have a link perhaps 'cause I have amd64 bit packages (nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-source) |
| 13:23.18 | tonyb2006 | whats this about udev, i had to configure udev when i switched to my 2.6.15 |
| 13:23.18 | abrotman | no .. ask #nvidia or #debian-amd64 .. i'm pretty sure there's a 64bit binary only driver from nvidia |
| 13:23.29 | adioe3 | abrotman: oki, thx |
| 13:23.30 | abrotman | tonyb2006: do you use gnome? |
| 13:23.37 | tonyb2006 | yes |
| 13:23.40 | abrotman | that's why |
| 13:23.53 | tonyb2006 | ....... |
| 13:24.03 | abrotman | hal/gvm uses udev or someting like that .. |
| 13:24.18 | abrotman | and the metapackage gnome requires fam .. which requires one of those |
| 13:24.28 | tonyb2006 | w/e, i just had to make it make a /dev/psaux |
| 13:24.35 | streuner | gnome-volume-manager |
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| 13:25.02 | abrotman | tonyb2006: use /dev/input/mice after loading the mousedev module |
| 13:25.39 | streuner | gnome-volume-manager depends on udev, without it you can just run GNOME without udev |
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| 13:26.30 | SimonRaven | fam | gamin |
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| 13:27.02 | FreekNL | HI all, anyone ever used the "Mondo/mindi" disaster recovery suite ? |
| 13:27.11 | abrotman | whatever it is .. through some dependency chain .. the metapackage gnome requires udev |
| 13:27.13 | valdyn | adioe3: are you using a custom kernel? |
| 13:27.36 | adioe3 | valdyn: yep. vanilla 2.6.15 |
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| 13:27.55 | valdyn | adioe3: and you havent enabled 32 bit system calls in its configuration? |
| 13:28.25 | FreekNL | Works realy good, only their site is down (most of it), I cant seem to figure out how to do a "mondorestore" from NFS (YES, I have confirmed the mounted NFS share). How to restore over NFS? |
| 13:28.37 | adioe3 | valdyn: where, exactly? i have ia32 emulation |
| 13:28.53 | valdyn | adioe3: ok , thats what you need yep |
| 13:29.12 | valdyn | adioe3: debians nvidia packages do contain the libraries to run 32 bit apps too |
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| 13:29.51 | adioe3 | FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.15/nvidia/nvidia.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 13:29.53 | adioe3 | valdyn: I know. But when I modprobe it I get |
| 13:29.56 | adioe3 | that up there |
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| 13:30.15 | tonyb2006 | dmesg | tail |
| 13:30.25 | valdyn | adioe3: that isnt a 32 vs 64 bit issue, thats a module that is not compiled for your running kernel |
| 13:30.35 | tonyb2006 | dmesg | tail |
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| 13:31.15 | tonyb2006 | compile it with the nvidia driver |
| 13:31.46 | sciboy | Hey guys, is there a way to stop damaged cd's from bringing my system to an unusable crawl? |
| 13:31.56 | adioe3 | valdyn: so is there a way to make it run on 2.6.15? |
| 13:32.06 | adioe3 | or should I smack back to 2.6.12 or 11? |
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| 13:32.13 | tonyb2006 | adioe3: COMPILE IT with the nVidia installer? |
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| 13:32.32 | valdyn | hell NO dont use nvidias installer |
| 13:32.40 | tonyb2006 | thats what i used |
| 13:32.44 | valdyn | adioe3: i dont even know which driver version this is. |
| 13:32.45 | adioe3 | tonyb2006: a little bit more precise? (cause I kinda did compile it with the nvidia-kernel module) |
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| 13:33.10 | valdyn | nvidias installer fucks up debian packages, its NOT for debian systems |
| 13:33.17 | sciboy | *cough* module-assistant auto-install nvidia *cough* |
| 13:33.19 | adioe3 | valdyn: I know |
| 13:33.26 | valdyn | adioe3: good |
| 13:33.40 | adioe3 | sciboy: *khm* NOT *khm* |
| 13:33.41 | tonyb2006 | valdyn: oh.... |
| 13:34.03 | tonyb2006 | module-assistant is good, it broke my system once cause i fucked up |
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| 13:34.29 | WebMonkey | nevermind |
| 13:34.35 | WebMonkey | we all fuck up once in a while |
| 13:34.35 | adioe3 | tonyb2006: so you're suggesting that I untar the nvidia-kernel-source, make the module, than TOTALLY recompile (make .... make install)???? |
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| 13:34.50 | tonyb2006 | 08:31 < sciboy> *cough* module-assistant auto-install nvidia *cough* |
| 13:35.11 | sciboy | *ahemm-a a-i nvidia |
| 13:35.21 | sciboy | *ahem* m-a a-i nvidia |
| 13:35.26 | adioe3 | sciboy: been there, tried that, didn't work |
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| 13:35.40 | valdyn | adioe3: since you are using a new kernel i'd suggest you also use the new nvidia-glx from etch or sid. But your error primarily indicates that you did not compile the nvidia driver against the sources / headers of your running kernel |
| 13:35.43 | sciboy | adioe3, Nvidia installer does nasty stuff. |
| 13:35.44 | anapivirtua_ | lo all |
| 13:35.58 | sciboy | adioe3, I had to upgrade my kernel before things went back to normal. |
| 13:36.07 | adioe3 | so... how do you update to SID or ETCH? ^_^ |
| 13:36.17 | valdyn | adioe3: you dont |
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| 13:36.29 | adioe3 | upgrade? |
| 13:36.31 | liable | you dont want to. |
| 13:36.46 | adioe3 | mhm. k. |
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| 13:37.07 | valdyn | adioe3: no one told you to upgrade the system, i just said that using nvidia-glx ( and ONLY nvidia-glx ) packages from etch or sid might be a good option |
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| 13:37.28 | sciboy | I'm on Unstable, but i have to keep nvidia-* on hold at version 7174 for compatibility reasons, and xserver-xorg aswell, because they decided to file a bloody conflict against my nvidia version. |
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| 13:37.44 | adioe3 | valdyn: I'm gonna try to do a recompile of the kernel with the nvidia module in it ... |
| 13:37.50 | adioe3 | sciboy: I have xfree86 |
| 13:38.09 | sciboy | adioe3, I said i was using unstable. =P |
| 13:38.10 | abrotman | valdyn: you get an 'A' for effort :) |
| 13:38.18 | valdyn | !win |
| 13:38.21 | dpkg | methinks win is lose. |
| 13:38.27 | elo | hello everybody |
| 13:38.39 | sciboy | elo elo. |
| 13:38.40 | liable | elo elo |
| 13:39.01 | liable | !lose me |
| 13:39.01 | dpkg | liable: You Lose. |
| 13:39.08 | Gnea | elooooooo nurse! |
| 13:39.09 | elo | I've some problem installing libsunmail-java |
| 13:39.35 | sciboy | elo, You'd have to be more specific than that. =) |
| 13:39.37 | elo | the package cannot be extracted |
| 13:39.55 | Gnea | !info libsunmail-java |
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| 13:40.06 | Gnea | Package 'libsunmail-java' does not exist. |
| 13:40.16 | liable | hrm, funnily i doubt that its in debian.. |
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| 13:41.19 | nlindblad | users are not allowed to use X |
| 13:41.24 | nlindblad | how do I change that? |
| 13:41.44 | adioe3 | add them to the video group (adduser 'username' video)? |
| 13:41.49 | nlindblad | oh |
| 13:41.50 | valdyn | nlindblad: when do you get that error? |
| 13:41.53 | adioe3 | So I tried recompiling and I get: |
| 13:41.54 | adioe3 | if [ -r System.map -a -x /sbin/depmod ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map 2.6.15; fi |
| 13:41.55 | adioe3 | WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.15/nvidia/nvidia.ko needs unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion |
| 13:41.55 | adioe3 | WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.15/nvidia/nvidia.ko needs unknown symbol unregister_ioctl32_conversion |
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| 13:42.01 | liable | !tell Mariele about away |
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| 13:42.09 | nlindblad | valdyn: after I've installed X and my favorite WM |
| 13:42.13 | Mariele | sorry .. |
| 13:42.21 | valdyn | nlindblad: i doubt that |
| 13:42.29 | valdyn | nlindblad: you have to run some command at least to get an error |
| 13:42.55 | elo | gnea:i can find it through my sources.list but it provokes an error 2 during configuration |
| 13:43.11 | nlindblad | valdyn: startx |
| 13:43.18 | Gnea | elo: that's nice. |
| 13:43.24 | Gnea | !tell elo -about ask |
| 13:43.27 | nlindblad | valdyn: but adding myself to video doesn't change the situation |
| 13:43.29 | abrotman | nlindblad: and what error do you get? |
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| 13:43.34 | valdyn | nlindblad: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 13:43.48 | valdyn | nlindblad: its unrelated |
| 13:43.54 | abrotman | nlindblad: certainly the system tells you something when you try to run X |
| 13:43.58 | nlindblad | abrotman: "User no authorized to run the X server, aborting" |
| 13:44.13 | liable | nlindblad: what exactly did you install? |
| 13:44.13 | valdyn | nlindblad: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common |
| 13:44.14 | abrotman | maybe a *dm is already runnign ? |
| 13:44.46 | nlindblad | nope |
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| 13:44.58 | nlindblad | liable: tried XFree86 first |
| 13:45.05 | nlindblad | didn't find my card and forced me to use vesa |
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| 13:45.16 | nlindblad | now I'm trying xorg from backports |
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| 13:45.30 | nlindblad | xorg worked perfectly with unstable an hour ago |
| 13:45.33 | Metrics | nlindblad: You don't happen to be running from a screen session do you? |
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| 13:45.52 | zulu42 | hi, i need to su root and type eject to eject my cdrom (of course it is umounted), pushing the eject button on it is useless... what's wrong? |
| 13:46.16 | nlindblad | Metrics: no |
| 13:46.46 | zulu42 | I can push eject when it empty (sorry) |
| 13:46.50 | Pedro420 | nvz: Nandrew ? |
| 13:46.53 | liable | nlindblad: but what packages are you installing? |
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| 13:47.50 | nlindblad | liable: xserver-xorg from backports |
| 13:48.02 | nlindblad | because xserver-xfree86 can't use my card |
| 13:48.02 | [Elvis] | what to install next to x-window-system-core to install xfree86? |
| 13:48.21 | valdyn | [Elvis]: nothing |
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| 13:48.38 | [Elvis] | hmm why do I get an error then valdyn..there's no window manager :P |
| 13:48.53 | valdyn | [Elvis]: a window manager isnt xfree86 |
| 13:48.56 | nlindblad | liable: root can run both X.org and my WM fine |
| 13:48.58 | valdyn | [Elvis]: but install one |
| 13:49.12 | [Elvis] | do I have to? |
| 13:49.17 | valdyn | [Elvis]: no |
| 13:49.31 | [Elvis] | why do I get the error then valdyn? |
| 13:49.41 | valdyn | [Elvis]: i find X somewhat uncomfortable to use without a WM though |
| 13:49.59 | [Elvis] | well I'm not gonna use it ...just for mythtv |
| 13:50.13 | sciboy | Hey, how do i stop the system from resorting to bringing my computer to a crawl when it tries to read a damaged CD? |
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| 13:50.23 | valdyn | [Elvis]: start your X with the command 'X', quit it with ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 13:50.38 | nlindblad | valdyn: it has to do with permissions |
| 13:50.38 | abrotman | sciboy: stop playing with damaged CDs ? |
| 13:50.40 | valdyn | [Elvis]: that will work just fine without a WM |
| 13:50.44 | nvz | sciboy: stop putting in damaged cds? |
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| 13:50.45 | valdyn | nlindblad: yes |
| 13:50.51 | sciboy | abrotman, That's not a solution, thats evasion. |
| 13:50.54 | valdyn | nlindblad: did you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common yet? |
| 13:50.56 | [Elvis] | so not startx valdyn ? |
| 13:50.57 | sciboy | nvz, , That's not a solution, thats evasion. |
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| 13:51.00 | liable | when did sdparm come into existence? |
| 13:51.05 | valdyn | [Elvis]: nope, startx wants a wm |
| 13:51.13 | nlindblad | valdyn: yes, that does not mention permissions |
| 13:51.19 | valdyn | nlindblad: it does |
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| 13:51.28 | abrotman | sciboy: you want to evade your system crawling .. evade broken cds .. |
| 13:51.30 | abrotman | !prize me |
| 13:51.31 | valdyn | nlindblad: it asks "who should be allowed to run X' |
| 13:51.40 | nlindblad | hmm |
| 13:51.45 | rambo3 | god |
| 13:51.47 | nlindblad | man, typo |
| 13:51.50 | nlindblad | valdyn: thanks |
| 13:52.12 | sciboy | abrotman, I want a solution cause i can't always evade damaged cd's. |
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| 13:52.33 | abrotman | sciboy: every OS i know of struggles with that .. |
| 13:52.43 | nvz | sciboy: get a broken cd fixer then |
| 13:52.46 | valdyn | sciboy: which program is hogging up your resources when you insert a broken CD? |
| 13:52.48 | nlindblad | valdyn: are you sure that applies to X.org aswell? |
| 13:52.52 | nvz | or a broken cdrom heh |
| 13:52.54 | valdyn | nlindblad: yea |
| 13:53.07 | abrotman | they think "I can do it .. i can read this data . i won't fail sciboy" .. but in the end . it's just a bad CD :) |
| 13:53.22 | sciboy | valdyn, The kernel itself. |
| 13:53.24 | nvz | abrotman: if you use a broken cdrom to read the broken cds, it wont slow down :P |
| 13:53.25 | nlindblad | valdyn: same error |
| 13:53.34 | abrotman | nvz: hehe |
| 13:53.45 | nvz | abrotman: it wont read the cds either.. but.. |
| 13:53.49 | [Elvis] | I get a fontconfig error during install x-window-system-core |
| 13:53.54 | [Elvis] | what to do about that? |
| 13:54.13 | abrotman | ok .. so they have this show on VH1 .. supposed to be new/interesting music ... htf does Eminem fall into either of those categories |
| 13:54.13 | sciboy | valdyn, I am fine with it taking its sweet time, i just have issue with it slowing my computer unbearably in the process. |
| 13:54.40 | valdyn | nlindblad: grep 0666 /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 13:54.57 | [GABRI] | Hi all, how i can install the update-rc utility? |
| 13:55.15 | valdyn | !tell [Elvis] -about ask |
| 13:55.21 | nvz | abrotman: the same way that falls into the topic of #debian? |
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| 13:55.42 | nlindblad | valdyn: should I change that? |
| 13:55.49 | nvz | abrotman: Stillers! Yoi! Double Yoi! |
| 13:55.50 | ootput | are any of you surfing the net with dialup? |
| 13:55.53 | [GABRI] | hi friends |
| 13:56.00 | valdyn | nlindblad: change what? |
| 13:56.04 | abrotman | nvz: iggles! |
| 13:56.05 | nlindblad | valdyn: that value |
| 13:56.05 | nvz | ootput: hahahaha no, just you :P |
| 13:56.07 | valdyn | nlindblad: you should paste the output of that command |
| 13:56.25 | [Elvis] | ok valdyn I keep getting XSession unable to start x session - no root/.xsession file |
| 13:56.26 | ootput | nvz: mate, Australia has silly broadband caps |
| 13:56.29 | nvz | abrotman: there are not iggles.. only Stillers and Seahawks |
| 13:56.40 | valdyn | [Elvis]: when doing what? |
| 13:56.41 | ootput | nvz: i miss my premium Roadrunner connection :( |
| 13:56.44 | nlindblad | valdyn: "Mode 0666" under the DRI section |
| 13:57.06 | valdyn | nlindblad: thats good, if there's no # in front of it |
| 13:57.15 | nvz | ootput: pretty much everywhere does for personal civilian use |
| 13:57.32 | abrotman | nvz: yeah . iggles suck .. bad |
| 13:57.38 | [Elvis] | when starting startx since x isn't a command |
| 13:57.39 | sciboy | valdyn, I'm suprised no one has brought up this problem? |
| 13:57.41 | nlindblad | valdyn: there's no # |
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| 13:57.48 | valdyn | sciboy: its not happening for me |
| 13:57.53 | [GABRI] | hi friends |
| 13:57.54 | valdyn | nlindblad: fine |
| 13:58.11 | valdyn | nlindblad: start just 'X', tell us the error |
| 13:58.20 | ootput | [Elvis]: curious.. why root? |
| 13:58.34 | valdyn | [Elvis]: the command is a capital 'X' |
| 13:58.38 | [Elvis] | ah |
| 13:58.39 | [Elvis] | :P |
| 13:58.43 | [GABRI] | hi bobbens |
| 13:59.05 | sciboy | valdyn, It may have to do with the fact that i use a low voltage drive and it can't as easily read over damaged areas. |
| 13:59.34 | nlindblad | valdyn: "X: unable to open wrapper config file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config" |
| 13:59.39 | sciboy | valdyn, But still, it's a problem and a solution would be nice. |
| 13:59.41 | valdyn | sciboy: still, i dont get this error even if my drive is scratching on a broken disk forever |
| 13:59.55 | nlindblad | valdyn: "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting" |
| 14:00.28 | [GABRI] | Hi all, how i can install the update-rc utility? |
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| 14:00.52 | sciboy | valdyn, For me it's been happening in all setups i've done, it tries to read over the damaged sector and bang, system comes to a freakishly slow crawl. |
| 14:00.52 | valdyn | nlindblad: grep allowed_users /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 14:00.53 | sciboy | valdyn, Can't even draw the menu's when i right click. |
| 14:01.01 | liable | [GABRI]: update-rc.d is in base install.. |
| 14:01.24 | nlindblad | valdyn: no such file |
| 14:01.36 | valdyn | nlindblad: are you on a debian system? |
| 14:01.42 | nlindblad | valdyn: positive |
| 14:01.48 | [GABRI] | mm liable i removed it, how noq i can install it liable ? |
| 14:02.03 | valdyn | nlindblad: who deleted that file? |
| 14:02.10 | liable | [GABRI]: how did you remove it? |
| 14:02.18 | nlindblad | valdyn: probably XF86 => X.org |
| 14:02.22 | [GABRI] | mm liable i had an error |
| 14:02.27 | [GABRI] | i need install now |
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| 14:02.36 | valdyn | nlindblad: you must have done something funny on that upgrade.. |
| 14:02.45 | valdyn | nlindblad: which packaes did you use for this? |
| 14:02.47 | nlindblad | man, not another reinstall |
| 14:02.50 | liable | [GABRI]: so, just install the package you removed. |
| 14:02.52 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 14:02.52 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 14:03.00 | [GABRI] | mm liable sysv-rc |
| 14:03.04 | nlindblad | valdyn: apt-get remove xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xorg |
| 14:03.12 | valdyn | nlindblad: follow the above instructions dpkg is giving the the package xserver-common |
| 14:03.23 | sciboy | nlight, apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg? |
| 14:03.39 | valdyn | sciboy: no, that wont do it as he deleted a config file |
| 14:03.48 | sciboy | Oh. |
| 14:04.41 | [GABRI] | mm liable but when i put apt-get install i can get an error |
| 14:04.51 | [GABRI] | dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. |
| 14:04.51 | [GABRI] | dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. |
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| 14:05.01 | sciboy | ... As a side note its normally safer to rename the files rather than delete them. from .conf to .conf.backup |
| 14:05.16 | valdyn | sciboy: is DMA on for that drive? |
| 14:05.17 | ativan | where is floorf in glibc? |
| 14:05.27 | sciboy | valdyn, Not sure, how can i find out? |
| 14:05.27 | liable | [GABRI]: how did you remove it? |
| 14:05.39 | valdyn | sciboy: 'hdparm /dev/whatever' |
| 14:05.46 | nlindblad | valdyn: no such file still |
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| 14:05.48 | adii | hello. using iwconfig i've recently reached a little wifi network and i would like to discover who is on. i tried "ping -b -I wlan0 192.168.0.255" which returned nothing but me. what should i try ? |
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| 14:06.16 | [GABRI] | mm liable i don't know |
| 14:06.32 | mrverbose | hmm, it doesnt seem to be a problem with grsecurity |
| 14:06.45 | sciboy | valdyn, DMA is on. |
| 14:06.57 | mrverbose | any other idea, why my system is unable to get a client socket? |
| 14:07.09 | liable | [GABRI]: why do you start every line with mm ?? |
| 14:07.13 | Ace2005-2 | Hi, Anyone here using Eagle-USB? |
| 14:07.29 | valdyn | nlindblad: create it, it needs to contain only 'allowed_users=console' and in a new line 'nice_value=0' |
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| 14:08.12 | ativan | trying to find floorf in the library functions... can't find it, does anyone know where it is? |
| 14:08.21 | sciboy | valdyn, I'll prvmsg you the output, is that ok? |
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| 14:08.39 | valdyn | sciboy: ok |
| 14:08.40 | [GABRI] | liable sorry |
| 14:08.43 | Ace2005-2 | put it in a paste bin |
| 14:08.50 | Ace2005-2 | if its long |
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| 14:09.02 | bbls | hi again |
| 14:09.09 | liable | [GABRI]: how exactly did you get into this situation? |
| 14:09.09 | bbls | i have a problem with my download |
| 14:09.17 | bbls | each time the |
| 14:09.25 | valdyn | sciboy: dma is on, looks fine |
| 14:09.32 | liable | bbls: i knew you'd bbl :) |
| 14:09.48 | nlindblad | valdyn: still doesn't work |
| 14:09.49 | bbls | console screensaver kicks in my download stops |
| 14:09.59 | bbls | how can i disable console screensaver? |
| 14:09.59 | sciboy | valdyn, Cool, just checking. What does hdparm show on your cd drive, just for comparison? |
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| 14:11.13 | valdyn | sciboy: IO_support = 1 (32-bit), unmaskirq = 1 ( on ), the rest, including the HDIO_GETGEO error is identical |
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| 14:11.26 | bbls | anyone has any idea? |
| 14:11.33 | valdyn | sciboy: i do not think that those 2 switches have anything to do with your issue though |
| 14:11.51 | sciboy | valdyn, Either way i'm googling them out of curiosity. =) |
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| 14:12.04 | mikedub_ | if I want to get ident running for multiple users, what should i use? |
| 14:12.12 | valdyn | nlindblad: what does not work, what is the error now |
| 14:12.46 | Ace2005-2 | Can someone help me configure my network, my /etc/network/interfaces only has "auto lo" and on the next line "iface lo inet loopback" and i need to create one for eth0 so i can connect to the other PC, connected via crossover cable |
| 14:12.51 | mikedub_ | I'm behind a router, so i want to forward ident reqests to my debian box for my windows pc |
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| 14:13.00 | nlindblad | valdyn: same one |
| 14:13.08 | nlindblad | valdyn: except for the file missing |
| 14:13.11 | antonio77a | hi friends of debian |
| 14:13.21 | ApEtc | Ace2005-2: take a look at: man 5 interfaces |
| 14:13.24 | nlindblad | valdyn: but it still says I don't have permissions for starting X |
| 14:13.29 | Ace2005-2 | ok |
| 14:13.36 | antonio77a | could anyone help with debian on a dell inspiron 630m? |
| 14:13.47 | liable | Ace2005-2: /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
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| 14:14.06 | antonio77a | when i try to install kernel 2.6 the system does not recognize the hard disk |
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| 14:14.31 | liable | antonio77a: is it a scsi/sata drive? |
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| 14:14.51 | Ace2005-2 | liable: whats in there? |
| 14:14.54 | antonio77a | i tried installing debian 3.1 with option linux |
| 14:14.55 | see | hello, i installed ubuntu, and fiddled around installing debian packages. now eth0 is not initialized when booting. any ideas what packages i have removed that should be there (now i have to do ifup eth0) |
| 14:15.07 | dvm1981_lptp | adii, the firewall ? |
| 14:15.16 | liable | Ace2005-2: read it, its example of what you want. |
| 14:16.02 | epsilon | Ace2005-2: want sample config? |
| 14:16.08 | adii | dvm1981, no firewall set up :/ |
| 14:16.15 | Ace2005-2 | ok i'll read it |
| 14:16.22 | antonio77a | well my disk is the following: toshiba MK8026GAX |
| 14:16.24 | adii | rebooting .. |
| 14:17.09 | see | i removed "hotplug" becasue with kernel 2.6.15 it wanted udev instead and not that |
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| 14:17.13 | Ace2005-2 | I'm using sid so do i change all the eth0's to lan0? |
| 14:17.14 | see | is that the problem |
| 14:17.15 | see | ? |
| 14:17.15 | sciboy | see, Not a smart move, Ubuntu and Debian aren't completely compatible. I mean for applications it is most likely safe, but with system type packages you're pushing your luck. |
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| 14:17.34 | see | sciboy yeah :/ |
| 14:17.37 | epsilon | Ace2005-2: whatever interface you have |
| 14:17.40 | antonio77a | liable, how could i find out if my disk is sata? |
| 14:17.59 | liable | see: if you want to mix ubuntu and debian, then i guess you are on your own.. |
| 14:18.05 | epsilon | Ace2005-2: in default it starts with eth0, then eth1 etc |
| 14:18.10 | see | liable :) |
| 14:18.28 | Ace2005-2 | epsilon: ok i'll just leave it as eth0 |
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| 14:19.39 | see | is there a "merge allto debian" comamnd? :) |
| 14:19.47 | Ace2005-2 | epsilon: i'll restart and see if it worked |
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| 14:20.02 | sciboy | see, Can't say i know which package would kill it. Does /etc/network/interfaces have eth0 set to auto? |
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| 14:20.11 | valdyn | nlindblad: are you even trying to start X from a console? |
| 14:20.12 | antonio77a | liable: could you give any hint? |
| 14:20.20 | [Elvis] | in what file should I add a dir for hotplug to find firmware? |
| 14:20.37 | see | sciboy nope, ill add there, thanks :) |
| 14:20.47 | sciboy | see, just add the line "auto eth0" |
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| 14:21.06 | liable | antonio77a: looks like its ide, so i dunno why 2.6 pukes with it. |
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| 14:21.24 | see | sciboy thnx |
| 14:21.31 | sciboy | see, No problem, i hope that helps. |
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| 14:21.39 | gnd | hi |
| 14:21.52 | gnd | how do you format a fat32 partition in linux? |
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| 14:21.54 | antonio77a | when i start debian installation with option linux26 debian does not find the HD :o( |
| 14:22.07 | antonio77a | do i have to put any special option? |
| 14:22.12 | see | i think ill remove all ubuntu sources from sources.list |
| 14:22.22 | sciboy | gnd, Doesn't Parted do that? |
| 14:22.48 | valdyn | gnd: mkfs.vfat |
| 14:22.52 | liable | gnd: man mkfs.vfat |
| 14:22.57 | crazy88 | how do i change my debian hostname and my workgroup? |
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| 14:23.09 | liable | fuck, lose me again! :) |
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| 14:23.21 | liable | !hostname |
| 14:23.21 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
| 14:23.37 | valdyn | !workgroup |
| 14:23.46 | sciboy | !domain |
| 14:23.46 | dpkg | Want your own domain, but have a dynamic IP address? For cheap? Register your domain with one of the registrars and use soa.granitecanyon.com as primary/secondary DNS. Register your host with www.ddts.net. Make a CNAME record for your domain that points to your dhis hostname. Easy and cheap. |
| 14:23.48 | valdyn | crazy88: workgroup is set in /etc/samba/smb.conf |
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| 14:23.58 | [Elvis] | in what file are the firmware directories definede? |
| 14:23.59 | sciboy | Wrong type of domain. =/ |
| 14:24.05 | valdyn | crazy88: or clientside in whichever samba client you use |
| 14:25.29 | epsilon | by workgroup you mean in Samba? |
| 14:25.30 | sciboy | System to a crawl. |
| 14:25.33 | blaen | According to apt, I cannot download the "raidtools2" package. Has the raidtools2 package been updated to a new package, or what's up there? |
| 14:25.37 | crazy88 | oh ok thanks |
| 14:25.54 | valdyn | blaen: mdadm |
| 14:26.00 | blaen | valdyn: thanks |
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| 14:27.49 | blaen | Okay, this error has been bothering me for a very long time. |
| 14:28.10 | blaen | How do I stop apt from requesting "Media Change: Please insert the disc labelled |
| 14:28.11 | blaen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.11 | blaen | in the drive ā/cdrom/ā and press enter |
| 14:28.19 | abrotman | comment it out |
| 14:28.21 | blaen | God damn it. But how do I stop apt from requesting that? ;p |
| 14:28.25 | sciboy | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:28.28 | SerajewelKS | blaen: remove the CD line from /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:28.29 | blaen | thanks. |
| 14:28.50 | SerajewelKS | !beer abrotman |
| 14:29.07 | abrotman | mmmm |
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| 14:33.45 | blaen | Okay. What is the equivalent of mkraid in mdadm? |
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| 14:37.27 | KerPlunk | Anyone know how to make my eurodns domain point to my debian box ip...I can't seem to find where to add the ip on eurodns's website. |
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| 14:38.51 | SerajewelKS | KerPlunk: ask them, we can't support their service |
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| 14:41.24 | dvm1981_lptp | Little question in console; when i want to start an app, in the console; he block the console in a manner; how i can run it; and not block the console. Like 'babytrans &', but not like i expected |
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| 14:42.34 | asg | dvm1981_lptp: use screen for any non-trivial terminal multiplexing |
| 14:42.37 | dvm1981_lptp | To avoid to open 36 consoles, |
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| 14:43.05 | dvm1981_lptp | asg, yes but thats to rekeep the last session or so |
| 14:43.13 | user__ | hi, im trying to install nvidia driver using m-a, i do m-a prepare and m-a auto-install nvidia and driver build fails |
| 14:43.26 | user__ | the log says i shoudl remove suport for rivafb |
| 14:43.27 | asg | dvm1981_lptp: it has many uses |
| 14:43.53 | user__ | the module is not loaded and i have removed it manualy |
| 14:43.55 | dvm1981_lptp | asg, ok i read the fine manual ;-) |
| 14:44.00 | user__ | but still cannot build the driver, any ideas? |
| 14:44.56 | user__ | thats the firs one, the second one is : when imt rying to run alsamixer i get: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
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| 14:45.34 | KerPlunk | !tell user__ about enter |
| 14:46.20 | KerPlunk | !tell user__ about debian.pl |
| 14:46.28 | user__ | well, that was very helpfull |
| 14:46.45 | madradrone | KerPlunk: what are harassing the poor guy for? |
| 14:46.45 | user__ | why would i use debian.pl chanel? |
| 14:46.57 | madradrone | KerPlunk: he's not abusing enter, and his english is fine |
| 14:47.06 | user__ | !tell KerPlunk fsck off |
| 14:47.52 | madradrone | KerPlunk: is the alsa module even loaded? |
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| 14:50.15 | madradrone | user_: : is the alsa module even loaded? |
| 14:50.26 | user__ | madradrone yes |
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| 14:50.47 | user__ | madradrone im using 2.6 kernel |
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| 14:51.01 | madradrone | user_: hmm normally you would see that when the module isn't loaded. maybe reload it? |
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| 14:51.24 | madradrone | user_: you have alsa-base installed? |
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| 14:51.47 | ootput | are any of you using emacs in concert with ion3? |
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| 14:52.03 | user__ | madradrone now i do, thanks that did it |
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| 14:52.23 | rodirgo_slompo | \list |
| 14:53.09 | madradrone | user_: for your other issue: is there some riva package installed on your system maybe? did you /msg dpkg nvidia ? |
| 14:53.13 | Ace2005-2 | epsilon: thanks it worked, when i tried eth0 it didn't work but i tried lan0 and it did |
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| 14:54.34 | user__ | madradrone well, i don't know if there ys some riva package installed, if it dons't install by default it isn't - i did not touch anything |
| 14:55.03 | tziku | hello, i want to add a new shell-script , where i need to modify because dos't work :( i don't remember where i need to add :D |
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| 14:56.46 | rodirgo_slompo | kurumin is the best of world |
| 14:57.09 | user__ | madradrone and i followed "the debian way" guide |
| 14:57.11 | fiete | Can anybody tell me in which file i can export a environment variable for a certain user? |
| 14:57.18 | basix | hey people, i want to install debian on my laptop. i already have xp and fedora on it. i want to overwrite fedora's install. will debian's install take care of the grub that has been loaded in the mbr? I mean, will it remove the fedora entries and replace them with debian??? |
| 14:57.28 | azeem | fiete: ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile, usually |
| 14:57.41 | asg | basix: yes, it should do. |
| 14:58.01 | Ace2005-2 | basix: yes if you tell it to grub there |
| 14:58.03 | basix | asg: are there any precautions i should take? I mean, i hope it wont delete windows? |
| 14:58.04 | fiete | it seems, that it dont work with gdm |
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| 14:58.22 | asg | basix: it won't delete windows and should automatically find the partition and create a grub entry for it. |
| 14:58.27 | basix | also, should i use EXT2FS or XFS? |
| 14:58.39 | Ace2005-2 | basix: Ext3 |
| 14:58.56 | madradrone | xfs |
| 14:59.06 | asg | basix: /msg dpkg fs comparison |
| 14:59.23 | Ace2005-2 | I've had some problems with XFS but does better in performance tests |
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| 14:59.25 | madradrone | but you should use lilo with xfs because the grub-install script on the debian installer is broken |
| 14:59.37 | basix | madradrone: are there any xfs readers for windows? i mean my current fedora install is on EXT2FS so i can back it up using explore2fs but i dunno if there is a reader for xfs |
| 15:00.18 | madradrone | basix: ugh - i sort of shrug at the thought of actually wanting to use winblows to access any of my data |
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| 15:00.52 | user__ | oh, there are also complains in nvidia log: gcc-4.0 - command not found - several times and finaly it says your kernel is configured to include rivafb support, im using distribution kernel from testing 2.6.12-sth |
| 15:01.17 | madradrone | user_: is gcc installed? |
| 15:01.20 | basix | madradrone: see, neither do i like the idea but i am short on disk space so i dont have anoption |
| 15:01.34 | basix | btw i am using debian sarge |
| 15:01.36 | madradrone | basix: delete winblows? |
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| 15:01.37 | user__ | madradrone gcc (GCC) 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-10) |
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| 15:01.54 | basix | madradrone: i would love to do it but its not possible :) |
| 15:02.12 | madradrone | its always possible :-) |
| 15:02.19 | DimmuR | I've a very large jpeg file (more than 45MB) is there any soft that can view or edit it? (gimp freezes for 15 minutes :/) I've 64MB RAM graphic card and 1GB RAM |
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| 15:02.38 | basix | madradrone: technically, yes but logically no ;) |
| 15:02.58 | madradrone | basix: why? |
| 15:03.21 | basix | madradrone: heh. i need windoze for my work... :( |
| 15:03.40 | basix | madradrone: ok, should something go wrong how do i proceed to recover my system??? |
| 15:03.45 | madradrone | basix: but why? |
| 15:03.55 | basix | madradrone: compatibility? |
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| 15:04.14 | madradrone | basix: no i meant why do you need it for work? |
| 15:04.54 | basix | madradrone: i just told you - compatibility... |
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| 15:05.45 | Ace2005-2 | basix:if you need to use windows stop insulting it |
| 15:05.47 | madradrone | printer? scanner? |
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| 15:06.18 | user__ | okay i did one step forward, nvidia-kernel-2.6.12-1-k7: Depends: nvidia-kernel-common (>= 1.0.7174) but it |
| 15:06.21 | user__ | is not installable |
| 15:06.33 | SimonRaven | Ace2005-2: all the more reason to do that |
| 15:06.34 | basix | madradrone: no. more like photoshop, dreamweaver, autocad, VS.NET |
| 15:07.03 | flodine | if i plug a new hard drive in will ubuntu see it |
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| 15:07.17 | [Elvis] | hmm for some mysterious reason there are no packages like HTML::Treebuilder etc installed on perl..how can I install themost common packages at once? |
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| 15:07.52 | SimonRaven | that's hardly compatibility, that's lazy :P |
| 15:07.53 | madradrone | basix: i know photoshop and dreamweaver can run under crossover. don't know about autocad though |
| 15:08.13 | user__ | apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common returns: E: Package nvidia-kernel-common has no installation candidate, any ideas? |
| 15:08.31 | basix | madradrone: yeah and besides its too resource hungry... :| |
| 15:08.41 | madradrone | user_: are you mixing stable and unstable sources or anything like that? |
| 15:09.04 | user__ | madradrone i've upgraded to testing |
| 15:09.06 | Ace2005-2 | user__: what are you trying to do and what distro are you using? are you trying to install a kernel from the ubuntu repos? |
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| 15:09.53 | user__ | Ace2005-2 no, im trying to install nvidia driver on debian testing distribution |
| 15:10.37 | Ace2005-2 | user__: well you could try installing the ubuntu version, maybe that'll work |
| 15:11.02 | madradrone | that doesn't actually sound like a good plan |
| 15:11.05 | sep | is there a safe and secure way of having the www-data user (that runs the apache web server) execute a smal script on a remote box tru ssh or some other method ?? |
| 15:11.20 | user__ | Ace2005-2 ubuntu version of what? |
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| 15:12.06 | Ace2005-2 | the kernel and the nvidia driver |
| 15:12.14 | thingfish | user__: there is a Debian way to install nvidia accelerated drivers. |
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| 15:12.47 | user__ | thingfish yes i followed that guide |
| 15:12.52 | thingfish | oh ok |
| 15:13.09 | user__ | thingfish but i cannot install nvidia-kernel-common |
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| 15:13.37 | madradrone | user_: maybe check the BTS on it |
| 15:13.57 | user__ | madradrone what is BTS? |
| 15:14.10 | thingfish | user__: why not? Any error message? And yes, check bugs.debian.org/nvidia-kernel-common |
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| 15:14.19 | thingfish | !bts |
| 15:14.19 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 15:14.38 | basix | madradrone: i backed up my home directory and /etc (for configuration files). is that enough?? |
| 15:14.51 | user__ | thingfish Package nvidia-kernel-common is not available, but is referred to by another packge, E: Package nvidia-kernel-common has no installation candidate |
| 15:14.52 | madradrone | basix: it depends |
| 15:15.02 | thingfish | user__: ah. |
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| 15:15.36 | basix | madradrone: what do you mean? I just want to back up my configuration files and those files which were in my home directory. are there any config files outside /etc ?? |
| 15:15.41 | madradrone | basix: depends what stuff you're running really. a lot of applications keep stuff in many other places |
| 15:15.53 | valdyn | !info nvidia-kernel-common etch |
| 15:16.00 | dpkg | nvidia-kernel-common: (NVIDIA binary kernel module common files), section contrib/x11, is optional. Version: 20051028+1 (etch), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 52 kB |
| 15:16.07 | basix | madradrone: like? |
| 15:16.08 | thingfish | looked...it looks like it's not in etch atm. |
| 15:16.10 | madradrone | basix: if you don't have a DNS, web, or sql server... |
| 15:16.16 | thingfish | oh well, wait, I guess it is. |
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| 15:17.22 | madradrone | user_: you could always just use the nv driver. that's what i use anyhow |
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| 15:17.59 | user__ | madradrone i cannot, it crashes my box |
| 15:18.03 | basix | madradrone: i cant see /var/www/ :| |
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| 15:19.37 | madradrone | basix: yeah i'm just saying, if you had a web server or database or something, obviously you'd need to back that up. make sure after you copy your $HOME back to the new system that you do a recursive chown on it as the GID/UIDs will probably be different |
| 15:20.15 | basix | madradrone: ok |
| 15:21.13 | basix | madradrone: be back in a while. hopefully in my new debian system :) |
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| 15:21.24 | madradrone | basix: have fun |
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| 15:22.16 | madradrone | user_: are you sure you disable the glx module in the x config when you use the nv driver? |
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| 15:22.38 | user__ | agh |
| 15:23.13 | user__ | madradrone no im not sure, but anyway i solved my problem, i've downloaded manualy nvidia-kernel-common*deb and installed it |
| 15:23.31 | thingfish | backports.org packages are all done by DDs, right? |
| 15:23.44 | Maulkin | No |
| 15:23.47 | Gozar | Hi. I'm trying to compile a 2.6.15.1 kernel with debian unstable, but i get alot errors when I try to run make menuconfig. What could be wrong? I never had problems with compile kernels before? I pasted the errors here: http://pastebin.com/527343 |
| 15:23.55 | thingfish | oh I thought they were. |
| 15:24.02 | Maulkin | Nope :) |
| 15:24.23 | thingfish | Maulkin: so it's maybe not as safe as I'd hoped. |
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| 15:24.48 | madradrone | Gozar: you have all the necessary dependent packages installed? libncurses5-dev, binutils, gcc, etc? |
| 15:25.17 | valdyn | Gozar: why is gcc-3.3 your compiler if you are running 'unstable' ? |
| 15:25.19 | Maulkin | thingfish: If you're after safety, use the official distrobution, or hire someone :) |
| 15:25.27 | Maulkin | thingfish: However, it's all a trade off. |
| 15:25.32 | Gozar | madradrone: yes, i beleve so. I apt-get install kernel-package |
| 15:25.56 | valdyn | !b-e Gozar |
| 15:25.56 | dpkg | Gozar: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 15:26.04 | nixie | Gozar: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory. can't be right |
| 15:26.12 | thingfish | Maulkin: I'm going to try firefox 1.5 from there...it had no deps to install with it, so maybe I'll luck out and it'll be safe. |
| 15:26.13 | Ace2005-2 | user_: have you tried using drivers off the nvidia site? like installing build-essential, gcc, gcc-3.4, Kernel headers belonging to your kernel, nano (don't forget this), get the nvidia installer, put it in /home/youruser/nvidia/ (something you can remember) go into Ctrl+Alt+F1, login as root, "init 1", "CC=gcc-3.4", "export CC", cd to the directory, "sh*.run", it should work, then use nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if you use xorg) not |
| 15:26.13 | Ace2005-2 | xfree86, and then "init 5" and that should be it |
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| 15:26.22 | thingfish | otherwise I'm strictly sarge. |
| 15:26.24 | Gozar | valdyn: because I've read sovewere it's more stable to compile kernels with it. |
| 15:26.56 | thingfish | my sarge's worst enemy is my boredom. ;) |
| 15:27.12 | madradrone | Ace2005-2: that is not the recommended way |
| 15:27.15 | valdyn | Gozar: that's nonsense |
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| 15:27.36 | Ace2005-2 | then use nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change nv to nvidia |
| 15:27.54 | Ace2005-2 | but it worked for me |
| 15:28.01 | Gozar | valdyn: Perhaps :-) I'm no expert in these matters. |
| 15:28.10 | valdyn | Gozar: i think installing build-essential should still fix your issue anyway |
| 15:28.12 | Ace2005-2 | anyway why is it not recommended? |
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| 15:28.21 | thingfish | Ace2005-2: one should be encouraged to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-[xfree86;xorg] instead. |
| 15:28.29 | Gozar | valdyn: I'm installing as we speak. |
| 15:29.00 | madradrone | Ace2005-2: plus the debian drivers are intended for debian versions of x |
| 15:29.03 | Ace2005-2 | oh ok well then just do that |
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| 15:29.11 | asg | Ace2005-2: if you manually edit the X config file, dpkg-reconfigure ... won't touch it again. (/msg dpkg x md5 if you happen to do that) |
| 15:29.38 | thingfish | Ace2005-2: because nvidia's installer makes changes that aren't accountable for by the rest of the system. |
| 15:29.54 | madradrone | Ace2005-2: basically its much more unstable to use the nvidia drivers |
| 15:30.03 | valdyn | Ace2005-2: why do you change a config file without reading the possibly important comment on top ? |
| 15:30.12 | Ace2005-2 | oh ok never knew that |
| 15:30.27 | Ace2005-2 | valdyn: it takes time |
| 15:30.42 | Gozar | I still get the errors. I've updated pastebin http://pastebin.com/527356 |
| 15:30.44 | Ace2005-2 | and i want to install the driver and start messing with the themes |
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| 15:30.58 | thingfish | Ace2005-2: almost any distro's users (the ones "in the know") will advise against using nvidia's installer, for that reason. |
| 15:31.09 | nlindblad | valdyn, I'm sticking with unstable because of the X issue |
| 15:31.16 | nlindblad | valdyn, thanks for all the help though |
| 15:31.32 | madradrone | Gozar: did you install all that stuff? is the kernel source maybe corrupt? |
| 15:31.44 | valdyn | nlindblad: welcome |
| 15:32.36 | nlindblad | any idea what version of OpenOffice.org I'll get with unstable? |
| 15:32.39 | valdyn | Gozar: apt-get install 'linux-kernel-headers' |
| 15:33.00 | Gozar | madradrone: I don't beleave the kernel source is currupt. I have 2 other kernels I had compiled before (2.6.10 and 2.4.6) That I can't compile eather |
| 15:33.00 | asg | nlindblad: /msg dpkg info openoffice.org sid |
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| 15:33.41 | Gozar | valdyn: I downloaded the kernel from kernel.org Do I then need linux-kernel-headers? |
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| 15:33.54 | valdyn | Gozar: yea, that package has nothing to do with your kernel |
| 15:34.45 | Gozar | valdyn: Okay, installing |
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| 15:35.40 | phyrster | how do I extract a .deb pkg into a tmp directory? |
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| 15:36.18 | asg | phyrster: ar x <foo.deb> |
| 15:36.33 | drac | phyrster: dpkg-deb -x blah.deb /tmp |
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| 15:37.33 | Gozar | Okay, now I get some other errors: "trying to assign nonexistent symbol" updated pastebin http://pastebin.com/527363 |
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| 15:37.57 | valdyn | Gozar: thats not an errror , that is a warning |
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| 15:38.19 | Gozar | doh |
| 15:38.30 | valdyn | Gozar: it only indicates that your .config file contained options not available in the kernel you are compiling now |
| 15:39.04 | Gozar | it works :-) I need to read the message.. Thanks for all your help |
| 15:40.06 | thingfish | thanks for correcting my mistaken information, Maulkin. I could've made some bad mistakes. |
| 15:40.12 | valdyn | nlindblad: 2.x |
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| 15:42.38 | SPORT | xinit: Connection refused (errno 11): unable to connect to server. where do i find the howto to fix that? |
| 15:45.01 | tatoo | two votes |
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| 15:45.15 | tatoo | i just got a problem regarding my X. |
| 15:45.27 | tatoo | it looks like it doesnt exist anymore. |
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| 15:48.59 | metaperl | what dos2unix functionality can I install for Debian/testing? I want something to modify all the files in place |
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| 15:49.16 | asg | metaperl: /msg dpkg dos2unix |
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| 15:49.40 | metaperl | asg: thanks |
| 15:49.48 | asg | you're welcome |
| 15:50.08 | arsen | hm, getting errors with apt (trying to make sure im using testing, as opposed to anything else) not quite sure what the prblem is, or how im meant to fix it, BUT .. http://pastebin.com/527398 if anyone could take a peak :s |
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| 15:51.34 | SPORT | i just wanna be able to startx |
| 15:51.58 | arsen | be nice if i could just start the whole process again, wipe all my packages and start afresh on testing ;\ fiddled with my sources.list too much, be nice if there were a few more source.list examples on the web ;x |
| 15:52.19 | wizzomafizzo | arsen: Did you do an apt-get update? |
| 15:52.25 | wizzomafizzo | I remember these errors in Ubuntu. |
| 15:52.26 | arsen | yus wizzomafizzo |
| 15:52.38 | arsen | ive done apt-get update / apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:53.03 | wizzomafizzo | Maybe the mirrors just aren't online? |
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| 15:53.17 | arsen | ive tried many mirrors ;x |
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| 15:53.30 | wizzomafizzo | Well, I'm new to |
| 15:53.33 | arsen | thats the latest i changed it to, i think somehow ive messed stuff up by using too many mirrors, and different versions :p |
| 15:53.33 | wizzomafizzo | Debian. |
| 15:53.43 | wizzomafizzo | Couldn't help you any furhter, sorry. |
| 15:53.46 | madradrone | SPORT: are you using a ~/.xinitrc or .xsession? |
| 15:53.48 | stelki | Hello, can I force apt to ignore depencies when installing something? My system is well borked atm, this is my last hope I guess |
| 15:54.15 | wizzomafizzo | Too many mirrors? That seems rather silly. |
| 15:54.40 | SPORT | i'm using whatever's the default on a fresh install, madradrone |
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| 15:54.48 | arsen | well right now im just using the default debian.org sources, but it makes no difference which i use, still seems to be borked. |
| 15:55.02 | SPORT | xinit: Connection refused (errno 11): unable to connect to server. where do i find the howto to fix that? here's my error when i try to startx, as a user, or as root, madradrone |
| 15:55.22 | stelki | Actually, I'd like it to ignore what version of a package I'm installing, so it doesnt error out because some app needs a different version than what I'm about to install |
| 15:55.58 | wizzomafizzo | Oh well, sorry I couldn't help. |
| 15:56.13 | madradrone | SPORT: is x properly installed and configured? |
| 15:56.14 | arsen | wworth a try ;) |
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| 15:56.32 | arsen | whats the command for like, running the debian installer again?:o |
| 15:56.41 | wizzomafizzo | base-config? |
| 15:56.48 | SPORT | should be, wizzomafizzo |
| 15:56.51 | asg | SPORT: look for '(EE)' in your X log (/var/log/X*) near the bottom |
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| 15:57.16 | madradrone | SPORT: there's nothing to guess about it |
| 15:57.42 | madradrone | SPORT: x-window-system is installed? |
| 15:57.50 | SPORT | no such directory, asg |
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| 15:58.07 | Matthijs25 | Hi all |
| 15:58.12 | SPORT | madradrone: according to the installation i did, it didn't error, or anything so i'm assuming it is installed |
| 15:58.23 | asg | SPORT: if you are on a Unix, you will have /var/log. In it will be your log files. Xorg.0.log or XFree86.0.log should be there. |
| 15:58.41 | madradrone | SPORT: why "according to the installation?" dude, check, right now, if it IS installed |
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| 15:59.04 | Matthijs25 | I've got a quick question: is there a way to check (and fix) the ownership of all files that come from dpkg-installed .debs? |
| 15:59.07 | coywolf | !gpg |
| 15:59.07 | dpkg | [gpg] the GNU Privacy Guard, a free public-key encryption program available , now in main . or http://www.gnupg.org, but apt-get install gnupg |
| 15:59.14 | SPORT | madradrone: according to whereis, it's in /usr/X11R6/bin |
| 15:59.16 | arsen | is there a way in which i can reconfigure everything, essentially reinstall without having to format + copy from netinstaller cd again? |
| 15:59.24 | asg | arsen: /msg dpkg reinstall |
| 15:59.33 | arsen | ty :) |
| 16:00.00 | madradrone | SPORT: you're missing my point. i asked if x-window-system was installed |
| 16:00.07 | mrverbose | is a downgrade from unstable to testing possible? |
| 16:00.29 | madradrone | SPORT: that's the name of a debian metapackage that gives you all the components of X |
| 16:00.34 | asg | mrverbose: sometimes but it isn't often easy or supported. It's universally better to re-install |
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| 16:01.02 | mrverbose | asg: well, dont have the time for that now |
| 16:01.05 | SPORT | madradrone: how do i check if x-window-system is installed, then? |
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| 16:01.10 | mrverbose | and i cannot afford updating so often |
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| 16:01.23 | mrverbose | asg: is there a howto or at least a place where to start? |
| 16:01.38 | asg | mrverbose: well, wait until you have time because if you run into problems, it will take you longer than just re-installing. |
| 16:01.45 | madradrone | SPORT: there might be a shorter command, but I use: dpkg -l '*' | grep '^i' | less |
| 16:01.56 | asg | mrverbose: make sure you have a copy of a statically compiled busybox around. |
| 16:02.07 | asg | mrverbose: /msg dpkg downgrade |
| 16:02.44 | Matthijs25 | Ah, I just found out through another way that it is impossible. Thanks anyway. Bye |
| 16:03.04 | mrverbose | thx |
| 16:04.15 | SPORT | well, apparently not. so apt-get install x-window-system will install it, correct? |
| 16:04.18 | mrverbose | i am on testing/unstable and want to downgrade to testing only |
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| 16:04.28 | asg | SPORT: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 16:04.29 | mrverbose | asg: is this really so much of a problem? |
| 16:04.50 | ronove | do I need a special package to be able to do "mkinitrd", if yes: which? |
| 16:05.00 | asg | mrverbose: it can be; it depends on what current major differences there are between unstable and testing. |
| 16:05.21 | mrverbose | asg: can i find out those differences somehow? |
| 16:05.24 | asg | ronove: initrd-tools generally or yaird for new kernels. |
| 16:05.42 | mrverbose | something like a diff between those two branches for my installed packages? |
| 16:05.43 | asg | mrverbose: no, not really. |
| 16:06.12 | mrverbose | asg: well, i could do that manuall |
| 16:06.13 | mrverbose | y |
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| 16:06.58 | mrverbose | is there a list of all debian packages for testing? |
| 16:07.08 | asg | mrverbose: packages.debian.org will give you the versions for both trees. It isn't entirely clear, however, where the problems will lie. The best bet is to follow the downgrade links in the factoid I pointed you to and if things look really hideous, consider a re-install. |
| 16:07.10 | mrverbose | so that i can write a script on my own |
| 16:07.27 | rredd4 | going to buy a serial port modem today, what don't i want to buy? |
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| 16:08.00 | valdyn | rredd4: cant do much wrong there i think |
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| 16:08.29 | asg | rredd4: if it comes with a Windows Drivers CD, beware. |
| 16:08.36 | madradrone | rredd4: did you see linmodems.org? |
| 16:08.42 | ronove | asg: what do you mean with 'new kernels'? |
| 16:08.46 | rredd4 | i was told, no hsf (what ever that is) |
| 16:08.48 | rredd4 | yes |
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| 16:09.39 | asg | ronove: newer kernels in sid now use yaird for initrds and not the old initrd-tools package. If you are using sarge, then initrd-tools is what will be available. Also, if you are compiling vanilla kernels, initrd-tools should suffice. |
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| 16:10.04 | madradrone | rredd4: i've had good luck with the agere chipset |
| 16:10.18 | blenda | i want to pass the noapic option to grub. where in /boot/grub/menu.lst do i add it? |
| 16:10.18 | ronove | asg: is 2.6.15 vanilla flavoured? |
| 16:10.22 | mrverbose | asg: one last question: if there is a package $packagename-$packageversion-$packagesubversion for both testing and unstable with same name, version, subversion, will those packages be exactly the same if all taken from official mirrors? |
| 16:10.32 | asg | ronove: depends on where you got the source tarball. |
| 16:10.32 | amphi | blenda: on the kernel line |
| 16:10.39 | rredd4 | madradrone: i have a agere pci modem.... |
| 16:10.42 | asg | mrverbose: they should be, yes. |
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| 16:11.07 | mrverbose | ok, then i will launch my laptop, its much faster in running awefully written bash scrips :) |
| 16:11.14 | asg | mrverbose: in fact, the more of those similar packages that exist in both testing and unstable at the time of the downgrade, the better. |
| 16:11.32 | blenda | amphi: thx! |
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| 16:11.52 | [Elvis] | can someone help me out with perl....for some reason there is nothing off dependencies install on perl |
| 16:11.55 | amphi | blenda: or if you want it applied for all future kernels you install, append it to the line that begins '# kopt=' |
| 16:12.03 | ronove | asg: are there any reasons on what flavour I should use? |
| 16:12.05 | blenda | amphi: ok |
| 16:12.06 | madradrone | rredd4: there you go |
| 16:12.30 | kementeus | somebody know how could help me in the setup of a samba server with ads authentication in debian? |
| 16:12.33 | asg | ronove: what debian version are you running? |
| 16:12.47 | madradrone | rredd4: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/kernel-2.6/ |
| 16:12.47 | rredd4 | madradrone: does not work with linux.. or at least i can't get it to work |
| 16:12.50 | ronove | asg: testing/unstable |
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| 16:13.00 | asg | ronove: which one, testing or unstable. |
| 16:13.28 | madradrone | rredd4: yep. you've got to compile a kernel module for it though. you need to have the sources for your currently running kernel installed to build it |
| 16:13.37 | ronove | asg: unstable, but I used some packages from testing to get kde3.5 working |
| 16:14.00 | asg | ronove: then you should be able to use 2.6.15. Unstable has debian packages for it |
| 16:14.11 | Frosted | Anyone had any problems with intel duo core processors? |
| 16:14.20 | rredd4 | madradrone: i am just a user, not a programmer.. don't know how |
| 16:14.21 | dvs | !anyone |
| 16:14.21 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 16:14.22 | rredd4 | yet |
| 16:14.50 | madradrone | rredd4: ah looks like there might be a prebuilt .deb for it there |
| 16:14.54 | ronove | asg: but I want to add a patch (bootsplash) to it. what can I do then? |
| 16:15.03 | Frosted | dvs: sigh, i'm researching to buy it :) |
| 16:15.10 | Spike-Sp | hi, this is not debian related problem (I guess) but does anyone knows why apache2 says "[warn] NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts" when I start it ? |
| 16:15.23 | madradrone | whaddaya know |
| 16:15.25 | rredd4 | which one? |
| 16:15.27 | asg | ronove: well, you could get the debian kernel source and apply it and build a new kernel or just download the one from kernel.org. |
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| 16:15.42 | madradrone | rredd4: umm - there's like only one there... |
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| 16:15.44 | dvs | Frosted: I'd be more worried abou the chipset on the motherboard than the chip itself |
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| 16:15.48 | neuonyx | hello |
| 16:15.55 | neuonyx | what debian image do i need to boot from tftp? |
| 16:16.04 | neuonyx | i see netinstall CD images but not tftp boot / net install |
| 16:16.05 | neuonyx | ? |
| 16:16.25 | asg | ronove: If you aren't bothered about which splash function you need, /msg dpkg splashy for a user-space implementation that doesn't require kernel patches. |
| 16:16.45 | amee2k | what package contains a SILC server? |
| 16:17.10 | Guerin | amee2k: apt-cache search silc |
| 16:17.49 | rredd4 | madradrone: that driver works for my agere pci slot modem? |
| 16:17.57 | amee2k | i tried "apt-cache search silc" without results and now "apt-cache search .\*silc.\*" which is running for 12 minutes (CPU time) now |
| 16:18.18 | madradrone | rredd4: one way to find out... |
| 16:18.27 | neuonyx | ?? |
| 16:18.28 | neuonyx | :( |
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| 16:18.56 | rredd4 | madradrone: command to install it is, please |
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| 16:19.09 | rredd4 | sorry new user i am |
| 16:19.17 | tonyb2006 | TonyBox:/ksrc/linux-2.6.15.1# apt-cache search .\*silc.\* |
| 16:19.17 | tonyb2006 | irssi - terminal based IRC client |
| 16:19.17 | tonyb2006 | irssi-dev - text-mode version of the irssi IRC client development files |
| 16:19.17 | tonyb2006 | libsilc-1.0-2 - SILC library (silc-toolkit) |
| 16:19.17 | tonyb2006 | libsilc-1.0-2-dev - developer files for SILC library (silc-toolkit) |
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| 16:19.18 | dvs | yes yoda ;-) |
| 16:19.25 | amee2k | and still no results. any idea how silc is called in the repo? |
| 16:19.29 | madradrone | rredd4: man dpkg |
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| 16:19.39 | madradrone | rredd4: and google for "debian reference" |
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| 16:19.51 | amee2k | hm.... thanks tonyb2006 |
| 16:19.55 | tonyb2006 | np |
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| 16:20.26 | woodwizzle | how do you get a service to start at boot time? like nfs for instance |
| 16:20.28 | amee2k | but there's no server. only clients |
| 16:20.40 | dvs | woodwizzle: man update-rc.d |
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| 16:21.25 | madradrone | woodwizzle: read up on the SysV init layout and how it works |
| 16:21.27 | valdyn | woodwizzle: you just install it |
| 16:21.45 | valdyn | woodwizzle: it will be started by default after its installed |
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| 16:22.16 | saftsack | are the files in /dev FIFO compatible? |
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| 16:22.37 | valdyn | saftsack: wth would that mean? |
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| 16:22.53 | rredd4 | madradrone: dpkg-deb ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386_8.31b1_i386.deb |
| 16:22.56 | rredd4 | correct> |
| 16:22.56 | saftsack | FIFO: open: No such device or address |
| 16:23.01 | rredd4 | ? |
| 16:23.06 | saftsack | if i give him the device adress /dev/ttyS0 |
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| 16:24.42 | valdyn | saftsack: 'him' is who? |
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| 16:24.44 | rredd4 | madradrone: i have to burn it to a cd then copy it. what command for that? |
| 16:25.02 | saftsack | the faxmodem command from hylafax |
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| 16:25.06 | rredd4 | to copy it from cd |
| 16:25.47 | Eno_ | If i have eth0 and wlan0, and sometimes one or the other is only working, how does debian determine which one to use? |
| 16:26.21 | valdyn | saftsack: 'cat /dev/ttyS0' |
| 16:26.40 | saftsack | valdyn, i can connect on /dev/ttyS0 with cu (its a modem) |
| 16:26.42 | madradrone | rredd4: google for "debian reference" and read it |
| 16:26.55 | asg | or apt-get install debian-reference-en |
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| 16:27.16 | madradrone | rredd4: or see the wiki mentioned in /topic |
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| 16:28.05 | rredd4 | k |
| 16:28.12 | rredd4 | ty |
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| 16:28.21 | saftsack | valdyn, maybe faxmodem starts its own subprocess with other permissions? |
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| 16:29.10 | asg | Eno_: if /sbin/ifconfig shows that both are active, use /sbin/route -n to check which networks will be routed through which interface |
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| 16:30.00 | Eno_ | asg: If only one of them is there, wlan0 or eth0, will it use the one that is there? |
| 16:30.02 | valdyn | saftsack: did you read the manpage? |
| 16:30.16 | saftsack | yes i did |
| 16:30.17 | asg | Eno_: yes. |
| 16:30.20 | Eno_ | Thanks. |
| 16:30.44 | Eno_ | I don't have wireless access right now,so I'm trying to get as much as possible set up. |
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| 16:31.06 | asg | Eno_: man 5 interfaces ; man 7 wireless |
| 16:31.14 | blenda | what does the noapic kernel option do? |
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| 16:31.17 | Eno_ | Yup :) |
| 16:31.33 | valdyn | saftsack: what was the command you used literally? |
| 16:31.35 | asg | blenda: /msg dpkg apic (it disabled the functionality described there) |
| 16:31.48 | saftsack | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.52 | saftsack | sometimes i did |
| 16:31.55 | saftsack | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.59 | saftsack | nothing worked |
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| 16:32.20 | linux_user400354 | what is the channel for wine |
| 16:32.29 | blenda | asg: do you know where i can find more in-depth information? |
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| 16:32.33 | asg | linux_user400354: #winehq |
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| 16:33.24 | asg | blenda: wikipedia or google should get you where you need to be; I don't have any definitive URLs atm. |
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| 16:35.04 | saftsack | valdyn, do you have an idea? |
| 16:35.11 | blenda | asg: thanks |
| 16:35.25 | valdyn | saftsack: nope, dont havea modem here |
| 16:35.35 | saftsack | ok thanks |
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| 16:36.48 | rohan | hi all... |
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| 16:37.08 | robotic | um,may I question the wisdom of banning B-class IP ranges apparently forever ? I can join this channel about once out of every ten times I reset my DSL modem |
| 16:37.08 | rohan | i am upgrading debian stable -> unstable today night while i sleep. anything i must keep in mind ? |
| 16:37.17 | rohan | i will ofcourse use --download-only in apt. |
| 16:37.37 | asg | rohan: check the bts for known issues with any critical packages you will require. /msg dpkg sid faq |
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| 16:37.49 | rohan | asg: ok. |
| 16:37.50 | saftsack | valdyn, solved |
| 16:37.57 | saftsack | i had to use the hylafax special file |
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| 16:38.29 | valdyn | neat |
| 16:38.32 | stew | robotic: b class addresses are treated no differently than any other class, of course |
| 16:38.57 | saftsack | valdyn, or no i think no :( |
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| 16:39.48 | rohan | asg: you reffered me to that faq to dissuade me ? :) |
| 16:40.01 | robotic | stew:except they cover more than one address. e.g. when you ban 85.98.*, that makes plenty of addresses unable to join |
| 16:40.25 | stew | 85.98.* is a class A address |
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| 16:40.41 | stew | not that anyone pays attention to classes anymore |
| 16:40.46 | asg | rohan: indeed and also to provide advice if you do actually want to run sid |
| 16:41.09 | stew | mmmm |
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| 16:41.22 | rohan | asg: yes. i want light debian, and latest packages. i think can fix problems myself :) |
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| 16:41.41 | rohan | asg: what i really meant to ask is, must i keep something in mind, since i am doing the process unattended |
| 16:41.44 | asg | rohan: if you only need a few packages to be the lastest, consider stable + backports. |
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| 16:42.02 | robotic | stew:yeah, well you get what I mean, banning something like a.b.* affects more people than necessary |
| 16:42.08 | asg | rohan: downloading the packages can be done unattended. The actual upgrade will require you to be there to answer questions. |
| 16:42.35 | rohan | asg: i want complete kde 3.5 .. that will not be possible with backports, right ? :( |
| 16:42.48 | asg | rohan: hmmm, #debian-kde might know or have advice. |
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| 16:44.01 | rohan | asg: ok. ty. |
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| 16:44.50 | stew | i can't find in my logs why 85.98 was banned in the first place |
| 16:44.58 | stew | robotic: you might /msg an op about it |
| 16:45.14 | robotic | how do I see who the ops are ? |
| 16:45.34 | robotic | uh..nm |
| 16:45.37 | bucky | who? why mwilson was banned? |
| 16:45.45 | robotic | confused with the other chan |
| 16:46.04 | stew | !literal cmd: ops (.*?) |
| 16:46.04 | dpkg | "#debian cmd: ops (.*?)" is "($problem): <reply>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: $problem" |
| 16:46.36 | robotic | thanks |
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| 16:47.27 | ptr823 | i've got a failed drive in a raid array that's not hot-swappable. it's a PERC-4 on a dell poweredge, i have all the dell management utils installed, but i'm not sure if i have to do something to the raid array before shutting down the server and swapping out the drive. |
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| 16:48.08 | tonyb2006 | hmm..how do i mount a partition so that everyone can acccess |
| 16:48.10 | tonyb2006 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:48.18 | rohan | tonyb2006: what type of filesystem is it ? |
| 16:48.21 | tonyb2006 | ntfs |
| 16:48.30 | smiler1987 | hi does anyone know about install a dual boot on a mac ibook g4? |
| 16:48.32 | tonyb2006 | wanna be able to get it from the nfs mount |
| 16:49.06 | bucky | rohan, you'd be better off using arch linux.. it has kde 3.5 and xorg 7 |
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| 16:49.24 | rohan | bucky: i am on it. it does not have xorg 7. not in -current. |
| 16:49.29 | Daedalus_ | tonyb2006: Is your problem that regular users can't access the data, or that regular users can't mount the nfs drive |
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| 16:49.40 | petryk | hello |
| 16:49.42 | tonyb2006 | regular uses cant access the data |
| 16:49.42 | bucky | rohan, it does in testing which works fine |
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| 16:49.52 | ptr823 | what is a good channel to ask RAID or dell poweredge-related questions? |
| 16:49.54 | tonyb2006 | and nfs has little to do with it, its an ntfs partition |
| 16:49.58 | petryk | I here any who use Moizlla suite? |
| 16:49.59 | rohan | tonyb2006: you want to be able to modify the data ? |
| 16:50.01 | petryk | mozilla* |
| 16:50.03 | Astar | u speak about xorg ...since i ve migrated to xorg ...my export display on win is slow , something to do ? |
| 16:50.16 | tonyb2006 | rohan: just read it |
| 16:50.22 | tonyb2006 | rohan: only root can touch it |
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| 16:50.40 | rohan | tonyb2006: ok.. adding option "user" to the fstab line helps ? |
| 16:50.44 | tonyb2006 | ic |
| 16:50.51 | Daedalus_ | tonyb2006:Make sure the mountpoint on the client machine has permissions. (eg: you can cd to that directory and do an ls), and then make sure your exports file on the server machine will allow all users from that client |
| 16:50.57 | petryk | I have problem with his ... I would install flashblock , or adblock , and , after instal they mozilla don't work ... |
| 16:50.58 | rohan | bucky: do you use arch linux ? |
| 16:51.16 | tonyb2006 | mount /dev/hda1 windows -o user |
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| 16:51.30 | tonyb2006 | and, from nfs (i have / mounted), i still cannot get it |
| 16:51.55 | smiler1987 | i have a apple ibook g4 and would like to put debian on it as a dual boot is this possible? |
| 16:52.10 | stouset | Has anyone seen a string format that resembles Base64 (A-Za-z0-9+=), that uses the = as a padding character, that also has underscores in it? |
| 16:52.12 | stew | smiler1987: certainly |
| 16:52.15 | petryk | smiler1987, yes ... debian work on apple computers |
| 16:52.26 | stouset | Trying to find out the content of a string, and can't figure out the format of it :) |
| 16:52.46 | smiler1987 | petryk: is it a straight forward install? |
| 16:52.48 | ronove | how do I install a .deb file which I created using fakeroot? |
| 16:52.49 | rohan | Do you know what to do if grep breaks, causing the boot process to hang forever? ====> how does boot process depend on grep ? |
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| 16:53.15 | odla | ronove: su, dpkg -i *.deb |
| 16:53.22 | SerajewelKS | i don't suppose there's a way to get my motherboard model number from inside debian, is there? |
| 16:53.25 | Daedalus_ | tonyb2006: Hold up. What's on /dev/hda1? WHat filesystem is it? |
| 16:53.29 | resiak | rohan: init scripts and such like |
| 16:53.30 | tonyb2006 | ntfs |
| 16:54.08 | Daedalus_ | tonyb2006: and you want to mount it, and then run a nfs server, so another machine can access that drives data? |
| 16:54.10 | tonyb2006 | yay got it |
| 16:54.11 | rohan | resiak: ok. |
| 16:54.15 | tonyb2006 | gid=100,umask=002,noexec,nosuid |
| 16:54.17 | petryk | smiler1987, I didnt instal it in my live ... I only know , when debian work on ppc computers , and , from it I say , when it is possible |
| 16:54.20 | tonyb2006 | that seemed to work |
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| 16:54.46 | petryk | use here aby mozilla suite in lathest version ? |
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| 16:54.50 | Daedalus_ | tonyb2006: important note: nfs and ntfs are two totally different things. |
| 16:55.01 | tyranix | SerajewelKS: Try using 'dmidecode'. |
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| 16:55.58 | opnsrc | I installed clamav and I don't know how to run it. What do I type? |
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| 16:56.07 | KerPlunk | I did apt-get install drupal, but how do I actually access drupal... when I installed phpbb or cacti..it was http://localhost/phpbb or http://localhost/cacti ... but http://drupal doesn't work...anyone know how? |
| 16:56.19 | Nosf3ratu | Previously, I've used xmodmap and imwheel to get my mousewheel and side buttons recognized in X. Now, xmodmap requires that I map 11 buttons, and the side buttons are no longer recognized ... anyone familiar with this? |
| 16:56.25 | tonyb2006 | Daedalus_: i have the "/" of my laptop mounted as NFS on this compter, and "/mnt/windows" was the ntfs partition i couldnt get from this computer via NFS, sorry for the confusion |
| 16:56.29 | KerPlunk | !tell opnsrc about clamav |
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| 16:56.52 | KerPlunk | opnsrc: Try /etc/init.d/clamav start or something. also /join #clamav if you want. |
| 16:56.54 | opnsrc | what's the difference from the Gnu-GPL and the GNU-GPL2 ? |
| 16:57.12 | tonyb2006 | !tell me about clamav |
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| 16:57.23 | azeem | opnsrc: there is enough on this on google I guess |
| 16:57.27 | azeem | opnsrc: or maybe wikipedia |
| 16:57.28 | opnsrc | Thanks |
| 16:57.37 | rohan | azeem: hi, hows the hurd work going ? |
| 16:57.42 | KerPlunk | !tell tonyb2006 about msgdpkg |
| 16:57.47 | KerPlunk | tonyb2006: /msg dpkg clamav |
| 16:57.48 | robin_sz | meep? |
| 16:57.52 | amee2k | is there a LDAP howto for the *current* version? |
| 16:57.53 | tonyb2006 | bleh |
| 16:58.00 | azeem | rohan: slow, but fine |
| 16:58.16 | tonyb2006 | KerPlunk: diddnt know you could msg him :D |
| 16:58.28 | amee2k | i can only find weird stuff or suse/6.2 howtos |
| 16:58.41 | tonyb2006 | KerPlunk: (it..) |
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| 17:00.18 | rohan | azeem: ok. :) |
| 17:00.18 | robin_sz | so ... on a debian sarge box I have that acts as a wireless gateway for $variousThings ... where do I look to limit the connections only to mac addresses I know |
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| 17:02.04 | mentor | stew: You might want' to /msg dpkg when you do that :) |
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| 17:02.14 | lede | Know anybody how make run pcmcia modem Siemens MC45 ? |
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| 17:02.30 | stew | mentor: oh, yeah, sorry about that |
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| 17:02.47 | Casanova | dpkg: audio card |
| 17:02.57 | Casanova | dpkg: help |
| 17:03.00 | odla | lede: have you googled it to see if it's supported by linux? |
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| 17:03.07 | arsen | fixed apt problem, seemed to be something todo with non-us sources :s |
| 17:03.16 | mentor | !non-us |
| 17:03.16 | dpkg | well, non-us is where we put software that cannot be distributed from the USA. For woody, use "deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" in sources.list, and deb-src if you want sources. Changes in legislation mean that post-Woody, there is no non-us, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch or Sid. Ask me about "crypto". for the few remaining packages, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/msg01355.html |
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| 17:03.18 | bbls | hello |
| 17:03.26 | odla | sweet the new version of icewm has finally hit sid |
| 17:03.29 | lede | odla: yes ... |
| 17:03.31 | bbls | what's the development package for X in debian? |
| 17:03.34 | KerPlunk | !greet bbls |
| 17:03.34 | dpkg | Hi there, bbls |
| 17:03.44 | odla | lede: what's the verdict? |
| 17:04.10 | KerPlunk | bbls: xlibs-dev |
| 17:04.15 | ravehanker | Casanova:- Are you asking them about the my problem?? |
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| 17:04.21 | lede | use some patch .... |
| 17:04.27 | lede | odla: use some patch .... |
| 17:04.29 | Casanova | ravehanker: no i am now |
| 17:04.31 | Casanova | u ask |
| 17:04.53 | odla | lede: this looks promising http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0408.3/2151.html |
| 17:04.56 | mentor | bbls: apt-get build-dep <package>? |
| 17:05.14 | bbls | mentor i need X #include-s |
| 17:05.25 | bbls | i need to know the package name :) |
| 17:05.36 | odla | oh you need to patch the kernel |
| 17:05.37 | lede | odla: work it ? ... it is "ugly hack" |
| 17:06.00 | ravehanker | My Sound is not being initialised properly, like when i try to run xmms, I complains that some other Process is using the sound device. But it works ok, i kill that thread |
| 17:06.07 | ravehanker | How do i overcome this |
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| 17:06.45 | odla | lede: well lede have you found a link to the patch online? |
| 17:07.02 | ravehanker | I was told that there was a specfic package that could solve this |
| 17:07.10 | lede | odla: no :-( |
| 17:07.31 | nassikka | j/ #debian-fi |
| 17:07.45 | nassikka | j/#j |
| 17:07.55 | odla | lede: what kernel are you using? |
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| 17:08.04 | ptr823 | \quit |
| 17:08.07 | lede | odla: 2.6.12-12mdk |
| 17:08.18 | odla | lede: you could try that ugly hack if we can't find the patch |
| 17:08.24 | odla | lede: ok i'll look that up |
| 17:08.42 | lede | odla: thanks :-) |
| 17:08.52 | dvs | ravehanker: It sounds like you're using Arts or ESound. |
| 17:09.18 | ravehanker | dpkg:- I was told that you know some package that would solve my problem |
| 17:09.26 | Casanova | dvs: he uses alsa |
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| 17:09.40 | ravehanker | dvs:- yes |
| 17:09.54 | dvs | ravehanker: Then configure xmms to use ALSA via the preferences menu |
| 17:10.08 | lede | odla: the patch begins case"...... and is without:Best regards,Petr Vandrovec ... is it OK ? |
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| 17:10.12 | ravehanker | dvs:- i have |
| 17:10.22 | odla | lede: can you install the kernel-patch via apt-get? |
| 17:10.26 | mentor | bbls: build-dep gets the build dependencies of <package> |
| 17:10.30 | odla | lede: i see a number of patches listed |
| 17:10.45 | dvs | ravehanker: ALSA doesn't say "device is in use" |
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| 17:11.04 | lede | odla: I have Madriva, but I can install Knoppix (later) ... |
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| 17:11.26 | odla | lede: if you have Mandrive why are you asking for help in #debian? |
| 17:11.26 | ravehanker | dvs:- xmms does |
| 17:11.47 | dvs | ravehanker: lsmod | grep snd_ |
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| 17:12.15 | ravehanker | dvs:- snd_hda_intel 16096 3 |
| 17:12.15 | ravehanker | snd_hda_codec 59456 1 snd_hda_intel |
| 17:12.15 | ravehanker | snd_pcm_oss 54848 1 |
| 17:12.15 | ravehanker | snd_mixer_oss 19968 2 snd_pcm_oss |
| 17:12.15 | ravehanker | snd_pcm 93416 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss |
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| 17:12.16 | lede | because Mandriva (czech) users do not know how make it run .... |
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| 17:12.56 | odla | lede: i don't know anything about Mandriva...sorry |
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| 17:12.57 | dvs | sorry |
| 17:13.02 | odla | !tell ravehanker about paste |
| 17:13.08 | opnsrc | !tell opnsrc clamav |
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| 17:13.10 | dvs | ravehanker: Are you part of the audio group? |
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| 17:13.13 | lede | odla: ok ... how can ... |
| 17:13.13 | ravehanker | odla:- Sorry about that |
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| 17:13.27 | odla | lede: have you tried #mandriva |
| 17:13.34 | odla | ravehanker: np |
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| 17:13.40 | opnsrc | !tell opnsrc clam |
| 17:13.48 | opnsrc | how do I make it tell me about clamav |
| 17:13.49 | ravehanker | dvs:- How to i find that out? |
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| 17:13.51 | lede | odla: now I try .... |
| 17:13.54 | opnsrc | like it did last time |
| 17:13.54 | dvs | ravehanker: groups |
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| 17:14.02 | odla | opnsrc: put the word 'about' between tell and your name |
| 17:14.07 | stew | opnsrc: /msg dpkg clamav |
| 17:14.10 | odla | lede: good luck |
| 17:14.17 | opnsrc | about clamav |
| 17:14.21 | opnsrc | !about clamav |
| 17:14.21 | ravehanker | dvs:- Yes |
| 17:14.31 | opnsrc | oh I got it |
| 17:14.32 | odla | opnsrc: '/msg dpkg clamav' |
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| 17:14.38 | opnsrc | !tell opnsrc about clamav |
| 17:14.46 | odla | opnsrc: or '!tell opnsr about clamav' |
| 17:14.52 | lede | odla: there are no users ... |
| 17:14.54 | dvs | opnsrc: /msg dpkg clamav |
| 17:15.00 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 17:15.09 | opnsrc | anywho, I don't see the GNu-GPl2 under opnsource.org |
| 17:15.21 | odla | lede: i'm sorry...unless you're using debian i can't help you...cause i don't know how mandriva does things |
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| 17:15.33 | arsen | anyone know of any msn messenger "clients" available through standdard apt sources which support video and users images (portrait image type things) |
| 17:15.33 | ft | opnsrc: gnu.org |
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| 17:15.38 | dvs | ravehanker: The only other thing I can thing of is to configure xmms to use arts or esound |
| 17:15.52 | ravehanker | dvs:- I'll try |
| 17:15.59 | odla | lede: there is a #mandriva |
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| 17:16.24 | lede | odla: oh sorry ... i tried #madriva ... |
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| 17:16.48 | ravehanker | dvs:- I works ok with esound thankx |
| 17:16.57 | dvs | ravehanker: you're welcome |
| 17:17.00 | epsilon | arsen: if you want in debian's standard apt source, apt-cache search'd be only way |
| 17:17.08 | jason | is there a program to create a pdf document in debian? |
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| 17:17.26 | arsen | know of any outside, installable if i add a source? epsilon ;p |
| 17:17.40 | arsen | i have gaim, which is alright i suppose, but doesnt include many features im lookign for |
| 17:17.44 | lede | odla: a question: where patch begin ? |
| 17:17.44 | saloxin_ | jason: easiest might be openoffice -> export as pdf |
| 17:17.54 | saloxin_ | or ps2pdf etc |
| 17:18.04 | jason | saloxin, can u export .html docs as pdf? |
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| 17:18.34 | odla | lede: huh? i'm not sure i follow |
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| 17:18.45 | saloxin_ | jason: never tried that, give it a shot |
| 17:18.46 | odla | lede: patch should be a file |
| 17:18.46 | epsilon | arsen: ask father guhg'l, mother yahu or cousin ems'n |
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| 17:19.42 | arsen | lost me :x |
| 17:21.39 | jason | saloxin, there is a file called cl-pdf..it is described as 'common lisp package to create pdf packages. |
| 17:22.05 | saloxin_ | jason: great if you know lisp... |
| 17:22.06 | bucky | html2pdf ? |
| 17:22.07 | arsen | anyone know how id go about setting up a framebuffer (pretty startup thinger) in deb?:o |
| 17:22.29 | jason | saloxin, i wish i did..dont even have the slightest clue about lisp. |
| 17:22.34 | odla | ls |
| 17:22.45 | odla | sorry wrong term |
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| 17:23.29 | Eno_ | Are there any tricks to make debian boot faster, besides just using less services? |
| 17:23.42 | dvs | Eno_: Custom kernel |
| 17:23.47 | bucky | udev |
| 17:24.22 | bucky | lsmod and see how many modules are loaded that you don't even have hardware for |
| 17:24.27 | jason | bucky, i have an html doc that when others open it up in their browser, the images arent clear and the indentation is off, so i figure pdf is a good way to share the same file and retain the same file image integrity. |
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| 17:24.36 | dvs | bucky: That's not possible |
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| 17:24.49 | resiak | Eno_: init-ng maybe |
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| 17:25.02 | erhanugur | Selam |
| 17:25.09 | Lewoco | I need to use version 2.4.32 of the kernel, but the package in stable seems to be only 2.4.27. Can someone tell me if there is a more recent version of the kernel in 'unstable' or 'testing'? |
| 17:25.13 | bucky | then use blacklist to stop loading them and then make your own kernel and initrd that doesn't load anything unnecessary |
| 17:25.22 | ClayG | I'm trying to install xwindows peice by peice to avoid getting bloated, and I think i have everything except the xlogin |
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| 17:25.32 | dvs | Lewoco: testing and unstable abandoned the 2.4 series |
| 17:25.36 | hunterzHUN | hi all |
| 17:25.38 | ClayG | when i boot up it puts my into a login (cli) prompt, ii can startx afterwards |
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| 17:25.45 | resiak | ClayG: apt-get install x-window-system-core [xgk]dm (as you wish) |
| 17:25.49 | ClayG | but im wondering what is the name of the component that im missing |
| 17:25.53 | hunterzHUN | Anyone can help me in ppp+callback? |
| 17:25.54 | ClayG | did that |
| 17:25.57 | ClayG | wait |
| 17:25.58 | ClayG | xgk? |
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| 17:26.01 | ClayG | xdm is what i used |
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| 17:26.12 | Lewoco | dvs: Hmm, any idea how I get upgrade my system to 2.4.32? |
| 17:26.12 | ClayG | and installed blackblox just for some useability |
| 17:26.14 | dvs | ClayG: I like gdm better |
| 17:26.17 | resiak | ClayG: [xgk] means "pick one of x, g or k" |
| 17:26.24 | dvs | Lewoco: Compile the kernel yourself |
| 17:26.26 | ClayG | ah clever |
| 17:26.32 | ClayG | think gdm is better? |
| 17:26.40 | ClayG | to be honest i just googled "what is better gdm xdm" |
| 17:26.47 | ClayG | lol, I dont know which is better |
| 17:26.47 | resiak | !better |
| 17:26.47 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
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| 17:27.04 | Lewoco | dvs: But then all the packages that rely on functionality which has changed from 2.4.27 to 2.4.32 will just mysteriously not work. |
| 17:27.08 | erhanugur | turk varmı |
| 17:27.13 | cusco | !start a dm war |
| 17:27.13 | dpkg | startx rocks! |
| 17:27.25 | resiak | !tu |
| 17:27.25 | dpkg | it has been said that tu is TheUnforgivens nick name |
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| 17:27.27 | resiak | erm |
| 17:27.30 | dvs | Lewoco: Not when I compiled the kernel. |
| 17:27.30 | resiak | !forget tu |
| 17:27.30 | dpkg | resiak: i forgot tu |
| 17:27.30 | resiak | !tr |
| 17:27.30 | dpkg | from memory, tr is türkēe yardIm iēin #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 17:27.33 | ClayG | Very true, but when you ask someone on irc why something is better you get the common answer from the googlites and manites |
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| 17:27.47 | ClayG | so i just cut the middle man out of what would have happened anyhow.,lol |
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| 17:27.59 | erhanugur | dpkg: thanks |
| 17:27.59 | dpkg | erhanugur: de rien |
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| 17:29.20 | erhanugur | debian 3.1_r1 --> KDE 3.5 install? |
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| 17:29.51 | elephantMan | Hi akk |
| 17:29.53 | elephantMan | all |
| 17:29.55 | elephantMan | How can i mount a USB key ? |
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| 17:30.06 | robin_sz | OK, where do I tell debain not to try and do upgrades to the kernel packages? |
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| 17:30.20 | hunterzHUN | Anyone can help me in ppp+callback? |
| 17:30.53 | resiak | !tell elephantMan about usbstorage |
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| 17:31.25 | xbmodder_lappy | Is debian built with ACLs by default? |
| 17:31.38 | dvs | elephantMan: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt |
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| 17:31.46 | dvs | elephantMan: (If the key is /dev/sda1) |
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| 17:32.41 | k0nd0r_ | hello |
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| 17:32.58 | chakatz | elephantMan: as root, give the command "fdisk -l" to find out what the dev is and then mount with mount -t vfat /dev/sd<Something> /mnt/<mountpoint>" |
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| 17:33.02 | k0nd0r_ | anybody knows the command to put wireless card in MONITOR MODE??? |
| 17:33.16 | epsilon | robin_sz: set hold in dpkg/aptitude (which ever you use) |
| 17:33.20 | valdyn | k0nd0r_: iwconfig <iface> mode monitor |
| 17:33.26 | _joey_ | I installed python2.3-twisted package , how do I find which version of twisted has been installed ? |
| 17:33.28 | beaumont | hi im trying to change my workgroup on my samba network.. i modified my /etc/samba/smb.conf but still i see the linux box in the old workgroup.. i restarted the samba daemons btw |
| 17:33.30 | robin_sz | epsilon: I dont use either |
| 17:33.42 | k0nd0r_ | ok valdyn go to probe.... |
| 17:33.50 | robin_sz | epsilon: im an apt-get sort of person |
| 17:33.58 | stew | _joey_: apt-cache policy packagename |
| 17:34.01 | xbmodder_lappy | xpdf... |
| 17:34.03 | xbmodder_lappy | yumm |
| 17:34.04 | epsilon | robin_sz: read the FAQ on debian.org, the section about package management. There's a description how to hold a package |
| 17:34.04 | chakatz | elephantMan: there are several good ways to automate this process. |
| 17:34.28 | _joey_ | stew thanks |
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| 17:35.28 | basix | madradrone, ok i am back in my debian system :) |
| 17:35.33 | epsilon | robin_sz: BUT: if there's a serious DSA and the new kernel package fix an important bug, you should upgrade the kernel |
| 17:35.40 | chakatz | beaumont: Hard to diagnose without seeing the /etc/samba/smb.conf |
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| 17:35.58 | beaumont | chakatz, http://pastebin.com/527563 this is my /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 17:35.59 | tedizz | hi all |
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| 17:36.15 | Silent_al | hi, whats Sid's latest kernel version? |
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| 17:36.26 | dvs | Silent_al: 2.6.15 |
| 17:36.28 | beaumont | 2.6.15 i think |
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| 17:36.48 | basix | guys i just finished installing a vanilla debian sarge 3.1 system. whats the easiest way to install the intel pro 2200b/g wifi drivers (ipw2200)??? |
| 17:36.53 | Silent_al | is it 'safe' to upgrade to Sid? ( im on Etch now) |
| 17:37.07 | dvs | Silent_al: never |
| 17:37.14 | Silent_al | lol , ok |
| 17:37.15 | k0nd0r_ | valdyn, see.... |
| 17:37.17 | k0nd0r_ | root@troppix:~ # iwconfig eth0 mode monitor |
| 17:37.17 | k0nd0r_ | Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : |
| 17:37.17 | k0nd0r_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.20 | beaumont | chakatz, my linux box appears on windows in "WORKGROUP" not in BEATRIX |
| 17:38.24 | chakatz | beaumont: try restarting the windows machine. |
| 17:38.31 | Neverth | Silent_al, nothing 'wrong' with sid, never used official debian/sid kernels (well at install yes but...) |
| 17:38.35 | beaumont | chakatz, ok i'll do that |
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| 17:39.12 | chakatz | beaumont: Windows is very bad at updating that type of info. It's bad at other things to... |
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| 17:40.10 | beaumont | chakatz, yeah i know.. im only use windows for music, movies etc, i use linux to work |
| 17:41.07 | basix | whats the latest kernel for sarge?? |
| 17:41.08 | beaumont | Silent_al, Im running sid right now, with a precompiled kernel.. and no problems so far |
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| 17:41.18 | beaumont | basix, 2.6.9 i think |
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| 17:41.28 | Eno_ | It's 2.6.8 |
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| 17:41.36 | Eno_ | With a ton of patches... |
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| 17:41.56 | basix | how can i upgrade to a 2.6.14 or later?? is there a precompiled one for sarge?? |
| 17:41.56 | hid3 | compiling a kernel from sources is always a good idea |
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| 17:42.10 | epsilon | 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 |
| 17:42.14 | dvs | hid3: Not always |
| 17:42.22 | Eno_ | I think sarge's precompiled kernel is just fine |
| 17:42.23 | hid3 | and when it is not? |
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| 17:42.29 | CcSsNET | basix |
| 17:42.36 | CcSsNET | hold on ill get you an apt list |
| 17:42.41 | epsilon | I always run latest kernel.org, right now 2.6.15.1 |
| 17:42.44 | hunterzHUN | Anyone can help me in ppp+callback? |
| 17:42.44 | dvs | hid3: If the precompiled Debian kernel works fine |
| 17:42.49 | beaumont | chakatz, still in WORKGROUP :( |
| 17:43.14 | CcSsNET | atlantica.us/apt/ |
| 17:43.24 | CcSsNET | download the sources.list |
| 17:43.38 | hid3 | dvs: precompiled kernel *never* works fine. 1. it is outdated, so no new features there 2. it contais lots of modules which, most often, I don't need, so it only slows down the system |
| 17:43.40 | CcSsNET | comment out the ubunutu section and the very last section |
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| 17:44.03 | CcSsNET | and run apt-get autoclean, apt-get clean, and apt-get update |
| 17:44.16 | dvs | hid3: Who cares if it's "outdated". If it supports your hardware then it's fine |
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| 17:44.26 | CcSsNET | then do a apt-cache search kernel 2.6 |
| 17:44.27 | basix | CcSsNET, ok |
| 17:44.27 | dominicano | dvm1981, you don not take a breath |
| 17:44.32 | CcSsNET | and browse for one you want |
| 17:44.32 | epsilon | hid3: I agree, I always compile my kernel with only stuff I need |
| 17:44.35 | CcSsNET | hope it helps |
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| 17:44.59 | epsilon | better: apt-cache search kernel image |
| 17:45.02 | CcSsNET | i know the admin of the site so if you got any questions about it i can forward them to him |
| 17:45.10 | CcSsNET | yea do that ^ |
| 17:45.20 | CcSsNET | epsilon narowed it down more |
| 17:45.21 | CcSsNET | lol |
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| 17:46.11 | CcSsNET | that list has more then 150 repositorys in it |
| 17:46.16 | CcSsNET | last i knew |
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| 17:46.36 | basix | CcSsNET, i am on a slow connection...so would it be quicker for me to just download the .deb and install the kernel? |
| 17:46.50 | Rixcz | hi, I have problem with loading sata_nv with install debian pls help |
| 17:47.01 | SerajewelKS | god i'm getting pissed, is there no way at all to keep a drive from spinning down? |
| 17:47.06 | cmatheson | is is possible to use multiple ssl certs w/ apache for one virtual domain? i've been reading the apache docs on apache.org, and it seems that you can only have one certificate |
| 17:47.08 | CcSsNET | basix i only gave you a apt list |
| 17:47.13 | tziku | hello, how can i change login port at SSH ? I have 5-6 ddos attack per day. I want to change from 22 to XXX ? |
| 17:47.18 | CcSsNET | as for your method of using it do whatever |
| 17:47.21 | resiak | !debian kernel images |
| 17:47.23 | basix | CcSsNET, ok |
| 17:47.24 | resiak | !debian kernel image |
| 17:47.24 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who ask about compiling their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
| 17:47.32 | Xenguy | tziku: /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 17:47.43 | resiak | !debian kernel images is <reply> see debian kernel image |
| 17:47.43 | dpkg | resiak: okay |
| 17:47.44 | tziku | Xenguy then how i restart ssh ? |
| 17:47.54 | Xenguy | tziku: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 17:48.01 | tziku | ok thx |
| 17:48.06 | Xenguy | tziku: yw |
| 17:48.09 | epsilon | tziku: sshd_config or iptables |
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| 17:48.24 | Xenguy | tziku: BTW, lots of good info in man sshd_config |
| 17:48.43 | tziku | so...to use sshd_config ? |
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| 17:48.53 | dvs | tziku: Just edit the file |
| 17:48.56 | hunterzHUN | Anyone can help me in ppp+callback? |
| 17:49.22 | epsilon | tziku: it's also a good idea to limit ssh access via iptables - such as ip blocks where you usualy work as source |
| 17:49.28 | KerPlunk | cookooland:~# /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 17:49.28 | KerPlunk | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...already running. |
| 17:49.28 | dvs | tziku: It's the very first option on line 4 for me. |
| 17:49.30 | Xenguy | tziku: you need to edit the file, and modify the 'port' line |
| 17:49.38 | tziku | i found :) |
| 17:49.42 | tziku | thx for all guys :) |
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| 17:49.47 | Xenguy | have fun |
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| 17:50.00 | KerPlunk | Why can't I connect to localhost with mysql? how do I start mysqL |
| 17:50.01 | tziku | ignoring bad proto spec: '4790'. |
| 17:50.01 | tziku | /etc/ssh/sshd_config line 9: Bad protocol spec '4790'. |
| 17:50.07 | KerPlunk | mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 17:50.07 | KerPlunk | error: 'Access denied for user 'dba_user'@'localhost' (using password: YES)' |
| 17:50.25 | tziku | so....why i can't put 4790 ? |
| 17:50.27 | Xenguy | tziku: must be a typo/syntax error |
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| 17:50.39 | epsilon | KerPlunk: did you set the password at all? |
| 17:51.00 | epsilon | tziku: what in line 9? |
| 17:51.04 | tziku | ok ;) is ok nine :) |
| 17:51.08 | KerPlunk | epsilon: yes the password works. |
| 17:51.10 | tziku | miss modif :) |
| 17:51.13 | dvs | tziku: Because you changed the Protocol line |
| 17:51.25 | dvs | Not the Port line |
| 17:51.29 | KerPlunk | epsilon: I can http://localhost/cacti and that works(uses mysql) |
| 17:51.32 | Xenguy | hehe |
| 17:51.33 | tziku | i found :D |
| 17:51.36 | KerPlunk | epsilon: Same with phpbb, that works. |
| 17:51.38 | dvs | tziku: You sure? |
| 17:51.41 | tziku | yes |
| 17:51.47 | tziku | naw is on 4790 :) |
| 17:51.53 | tziku | i test and it works |
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| 17:52.04 | CcSsNET | basix: i hope you know to replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with the downloaded one |
| 17:52.10 | CcSsNET | forgot to mention that |
| 17:52.41 | epsilon | KerPlunk: and where is it not working? |
| 17:53.00 | KerPlunk | epsilon: I can't add the database "drupal" to get my drupal cms to work. |
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| 17:53.23 | KerPlunk | epsilon: And when I dpkg-reconfigure drupal, that little ncurses program doesn't make the drupal db either even though it says it does. |
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| 17:54.15 | _rene_ | KerPlunk: then report a bug (if it's also in sid) |
| 17:54.58 | KerPlunk | Is there a firefox extension for reporting bugs? |
| 17:55.04 | ClayG | if anyone wouldn't mind checking out this pastebin error message I'd appreciate it http://hostdestroyer.com/paste/view.php?id=39 |
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| 17:55.09 | KerPlunk | I hate reportbug |
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| 17:55.45 | VivekVC | Does anyone face the issue of gedit crashing in debian testing ? |
| 17:56.06 | valdyn | !anyone |
| 17:56.06 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 17:56.18 | dvs | ClayG: Not with a domain name like that. |
| 17:56.41 | ClayG | ok i'll paste it at another one. Hostdestroyer.com is my site i just added a pastebin to make it easy for me to remember |
| 17:56.56 | ClayG | which pastebin would you feel more comfortable viewing? |
| 17:57.22 | valdyn | ClayG: you are trying to startx from a ssh -X session? |
| 17:57.30 | ClayG | yes |
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| 17:57.53 | francesko | hi all |
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| 17:58.16 | valdyn | ClayG: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common |
| 17:58.22 | ClayG | thank you |
| 17:58.36 | francesko | I've installed postfix mail server and I need to permit the delivery only locally to some clients! |
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| 17:58.48 | valdyn | ClayG: oh, grep allowed_users /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 17:58.49 | francesko | But all my client use webmail! |
| 17:58.56 | francesko | what can I do? |
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| 17:59.16 | epsilon | francesko: cry |
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| 17:59.30 | ClayG | I get this |
| 17:59.30 | ClayG | allowed_users=console |
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| 17:59.48 | valdyn | ClayG: so you can currently only start X from console |
| 17:59.56 | valdyn | ClayG: which an ssh session obviously is not |
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| 18:00.26 | ClayG | hmm that may answer my second question, why it starts at a CLI login instead of the nice pretty cartoonish graphical login that people want to see |
| 18:00.36 | ClayG | is all a valid thing to change it too? |
| 18:00.43 | francesko | epsilon... I'm already criyng |
| 18:00.45 | ClayG | or maybe user names |
| 18:00.45 | ClayG | ? |
| 18:00.54 | valdyn | ClayG: no, dont change it manually, use 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common' |
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| 18:01.47 | valdyn | francesko: what do you really want? i cant imagine you want to restrict postfix not to send mail to remote servers |
| 18:01.52 | ClayG | ah man, thanks alot |
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| 18:02.33 | francesko | I want to restrict my webmail users to send mail to remote server |
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| 18:03.29 | Silent_al | hi again , whats the best way to install nvidia drivers? the Debian way, or using nvidia installer? |
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| 18:03.37 | valdyn | !nvidia one-liner |
| 18:03.38 | dpkg | hmm... nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 18:03.47 | francesko | i have a domain... pippo.it... and 2 users... aaa@pippo.it and xxx@pippo.it.. aaa@pippo,it can send mail evrywhere... but xxx@pippo.it only locally.. ok? |
| 18:04.10 | Silent_al | thanx |
| 18:04.24 | Daedalus_ | !beer |
| 18:04.25 | dpkg | hmm... beer is liquid gold mate |
| 18:04.32 | tatoo | hi folks, my xorgcnf doesn't work. the following msg: "fatal server error: caught signal 11. server aborting" show up my screen. how can i fix it? |
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| 18:04.45 | ClayG | valdyn i think that did the trick |
| 18:04.46 | ClayG | thank you |
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| 18:05.46 | Daedalus_ | tatoo: look in your logfiles and see what's causing it to fail. |
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| 18:06.43 | odla | tatoo: then reconfigure x with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (xorg) |
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| 18:07.11 | HalNineThousand | I have an app (on unstable, app not from .debs) that keeps asking for libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3. |
| 18:07.23 | tatoo | Daedalus_: trying to....i can't see any clues except unresolved symbols... |
| 18:07.47 | HalNineThousand | I've found web pages that say create a symlink to libstdc++libc6.1-1.so.2, but that doesn't exist either. |
| 18:08.04 | HalNineThousand | Is there a .deb that contains either one? (I can't find one!) |
| 18:08.21 | epsilon | HalNineThousand: you run what? sarge/etch/sid? |
| 18:08.36 | HalNineThousand | unstable/sid |
| 18:08.37 | tatoo | Daedalus_: it looks like it found my video adapter, but can't find a way to load it. |
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| 18:09.03 | epsilon | HalNineThousand: apt "apt-cache search libstdc"? |
| 18:09.12 | bonez39 | how do I change the placeholder file on my apache2 server? |
| 18:09.13 | epsilon | s/apt/and |
| 18:09.28 | epsilon | bonez39: you mean the default page? |
| 18:10.05 | HalNineThousand | I did it in aptitude, and get several packages, but I can't find info on what files are included. |
| 18:10.20 | HalNineThousand | Is this part of the upgrade to a new glibc issue? |
| 18:10.25 | epsilon | HalNineThousand: apt-file search |
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| 18:10.46 | epsilon | HalNineThousand: anything is posiible in sid |
| 18:10.51 | tatoo | Daedalus_: i pasted the output above... |
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| 18:11.22 | drac | HalNineThousand: You can.. find /usr/lib -name 'libstdc*' |
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| 18:11.37 | tatoo | odla: i just ran the xorgconfig.. |
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| 18:11.51 | drac | HalNineThousand: And.. what epsilon said, use apt-file search.. apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search libstdc++ |
| 18:12.15 | HalNineThousand | drac: I did that in /usr, I mean I couldn't find it in a .deb -- I never knew about apt-file befor! |
| 18:12.18 | HalNineThousand | Looking now. |
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| 18:12.30 | Daedalus_ | tatoo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and try again? |
| 18:12.38 | witless | hi. i'm trying to put together a productive console-only python development environment. is there any way to do interactive debugging of python apps from within, eg., vim, with variable inspection, stepping, etc? |
| 18:12.54 | drac | !drxx tatoo |
| 18:12.55 | dpkg | tatoo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 18:13.23 | bonez39 | epsilon, yeah, the default page.... |
| 18:13.24 | basix | i get this error while trying to 'make' a driver -> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.8-1-386/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
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| 18:13.52 | epsilon | bonez39: debian's default DocumentRoot is /var/www |
| 18:13.55 | bonez39 | epsilon, under apache2 there are all those international pages....not sure where to put the 'index.html' page I have created to replace the 'placeholder' or default page |
| 18:14.09 | drac | basix: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386 , and boot to your new kernel. -1-386 is deprecated, and doesn't exist anymore. |
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| 18:14.37 | bonez39 | epsilon, thats where 'index.html' resides, but opening localhost with my browser brings up the debian/gnu apache2 page....not the one I have created |
| 18:14.49 | epsilon | bonez39: further, you can add (v)host(s) in /etc/apache2/sites-available and link these in sites-enabled |
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| 18:15.17 | bonez39 | epsilon, check it.... at http://fyrenice.com/ |
| 18:16.02 | bonez39 | epsilon, where in the documentation does it tell where to put this or that page..? I have looked but apparently not in the right places |
| 18:16.20 | gartt | alienbrain: So it depends on the package created for the package management system? |
| 18:16.22 | bucky | bonez39, cat /etc/apache2/README |
| 18:16.26 | epsilon | bonez39: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
| 18:16.35 | basix | drac, i get this error: E: Package kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 has no installation candidate |
| 18:17.01 | drac | basix: Something wrong with your /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-setup |
| 18:17.07 | justme | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.13 | epsilon | bonez39: this file describes the default host, if you have own site edit this file, or better create own vhost file |
| 18:17.25 | bucky | and yes there is a Redirect in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default that sends you to http://localhost/apache2-default/ comment it out |
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| 18:18.37 | basix | drac, i ran it. says its configured to install 16710 packages... |
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| 18:19.20 | bonez39 | bucky, was that one for me? |
| 18:19.28 | bucky | yup |
| 18:19.45 | epsilon | bonez39: you can create as many vhost as you want in sites-available. then create a link from sites-enabled (link must be from /, not ../sites-available). The sites in sites-enabled will be read from apache server |
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| 18:23.19 | bonez39 | bucky, this is what i find in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default > # This directive allows us to have apache2's default start page |
| 18:23.19 | bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.19 | bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.51 | bonez39 | bucky, the Redirect statement has no # to comment it out..but I added a # and ran /etc/init.d/apache2 restart and nothing changed... |
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| 18:24.54 | mrverbose | asg: well, my ananlysis is complete, 324 potential problems, 358 identical packages |
| 18:25.09 | bonez39 | epsilon, so much, just to put up a simple home page...... |
| 18:25.12 | bucky | bonez39, clear the cache in your browser? |
| 18:25.18 | mrverbose | my first step will be to remove openoffice and X completely, to see their impact on this number |
| 18:25.31 | tatoo | Daedalus_: i ran dpkg-reconfigure but i got the same message |
| 18:25.31 | bucky | bonez39, and don't paste.. i know what it says in there |
| 18:25.43 | epsilon | bonez39: comment the "RedirectMatch" line. Run apache2 reload (no need to restart). Clear browsercache, reload |
| 18:26.07 | bonez39 | bucky, yeah, I cleared the cache.... |
| 18:26.17 | epsilon | bonez39: and delete the dir /var/www/apache2-default |
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| 18:26.35 | bucky | bonez39, and don't refresh http://localhost/apache2-default/ |
| 18:27.07 | tatoo | Daedalus_: i lost it after upgrade my unstable |
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| 18:27.46 | bonez39 | fyrenice:/var/www# /etc/init.d/apache2 reload |
| 18:27.46 | bonez39 | Reloading web server config...[Sat Jan 28 11:32:00 2006] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts |
| 18:27.46 | bonez39 | done. |
| 18:27.56 | bonez39 | I get that when I reload.....does the warn matter? |
| 18:28.27 | bucky | NameVirtualHost *:0 is not listening on any port |
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| 18:28.47 | bucky | so where did the 8 go? |
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| 18:30.32 | tatoo | Daedalus_: the fact of being used unstable can gimme this kindda error during the upgrade? |
| 18:30.36 | bonez39 | bucky, ok, I added # in the /default folder...to the redirect....also removed /var/www/apache2-default and now I get this > Not Found |
| 18:30.36 | bonez39 | The requested URL /apache2-default/ was not found on this server. |
| 18:30.44 | epsilon | bonez39: copy and paste your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default in #flood |
| 18:30.45 | charlotte | what time is it? |
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| 18:31.10 | bonez39 | bucky, oh, I ran /etc/init.d/apache2 reload after the redirect change..and removing the /var/www/apache2-default folder |
| 18:31.40 | bucky | removing the /var/www/apache2-default folder ? |
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| 18:31.54 | epsilon | bonez39: you run reload if you have changed something in config. not because you changed something in the /var/www area |
| 18:31.59 | DevilChaos | hi folks |
| 18:32.11 | ronove | where are the splashy theme files located if you install splashy-themes ? |
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| 18:32.12 | bbls | hello |
| 18:32.21 | bbls | i've had a power interruption |
| 18:32.23 | DevilChaos | im trying to run bastille firewalling iptables |
| 18:32.26 | DevilChaos | em |
| 18:32.33 | ircdevil | DevilChaos: shorewall |
| 18:32.37 | bbls | the applications crash all the time now |
| 18:32.43 | bbls | is this normal? |
| 18:32.46 | DevilChaos | probs config shorewall |
| 18:32.50 | basix | drac, would kernel 2.6.12-1-686 be better than my 2.6.8?? |
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| 18:33.03 | ircdevil | DevilChaos: what probs |
| 18:33.16 | bonez39 | epsilon, ok, didn't know that... |
| 18:33.36 | DevilChaos | things didnt work dont think i had extras intalled |
| 18:33.37 | bbls | anyone can tell me something? |
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| 18:33.49 | hongry_ | good morning folks |
| 18:33.49 | drac | basix: define better? |
| 18:33.53 | DevilChaos | i have a standalone server i wish to be my firewall |
| 18:34.01 | DevilChaos | to my desktop pc |
| 18:34.02 | ircdevil | !tell bbls about ask |
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| 18:34.14 | bbls | ircdevil i've already asked |
| 18:34.17 | ircdevil | !tell bbls about sicco |
| 18:34.36 | bbls | can't you read you stupid moron? |
| 18:34.36 | hongry_ | I'm making my first attempt at installing debian, and the installer doesn't seem to detect my SATA disk. Does anyone know of a debian release with an installer that detects SATA? |
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| 18:35.08 | DevilChaos | it has two ethernet cards need to know how to point one at internet and the other at my main machine and laptop through switch? |
| 18:35.14 | ircdevil | !tell hongry_ about sata |
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| 18:35.32 | ronove | hongry_: search for a d-i with a kernel >= 2.6.12 |
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| 18:35.53 | DevilChaos | is that possible with shorewall? |
| 18:36.26 | ircdevil | DevilChaos: shorewall is very extensive. i am sure it is possible |
| 18:36.48 | DevilChaos | im trying all avenues with this as i have tried smoothwall to still testing that though just installed on another HD yesterday |
| 18:36.55 | qzio | is it possible to make a linux client follow a symlink in a samba share? (I've got follow symlinks = on) it works on my windows machine but on my linux client it thinks that the symlink points to a dir on the client computer. |
| 18:37.10 | ircdevil | DevilChaos: and if you have a non-simple setup, you will have to spend time configuring and reading docs. no magic solutions, afaik |
| 18:37.34 | DevilChaos | ah ok |
| 18:37.41 | hongry_ | ircdevil , thanks |
| 18:37.44 | DevilChaos | doing my head in |
| 18:37.53 | ircdevil | DevilChaos: reading shorewall docs is worth while :o) |
| 18:37.58 | ircdevil | hongry_: np |
| 18:38.11 | DevilChaos | ok ty |
| 18:38.28 | ircdevil | DevilChaos: np |
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| 18:40.53 | ClayG | to run x over ssh, it the compuer you want to connect to is at the graphical login screen, will it cause it to fail? |
| 18:41.51 | sTone_heAd | ClayG, no |
| 18:42.00 | basix | drac, you suggested that instead of 2.6.8-1 i should run 2.6.8-2 but i found 2.6.12-1 was available... |
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| 18:42.06 | ircdevil | ClayG: you need x installed on the box you connetc to. and you need to enable x via ssh. login screens is not a concern |
| 18:42.16 | sTone_heAd | ClayG, you can also run X -query thebox |
| 18:42.28 | ClayG | im doing that, before my problem was isn't wasn't allowing x to be launched by anyone except local console users |
| 18:42.29 | hongry_ | Does Debian get alot of used-to-be-Gentoo-users ? |
| 18:42.38 | ClayG | so i changed with , now im getting an error |
| 18:42.50 | ClayG | /usr/bin/xauth: error in locking authority file /home/clay/.Xauthority |
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| 18:43.21 | ircdevil | hongry_: probably. also knoppix users. people tends to waste time on other distros, but all converte to debian at some point |
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| 18:44.03 | ClayG | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 18:44.03 | ClayG | Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key |
| 18:44.03 | ClayG | giving up. |
| 18:44.09 | ircdevil | hongry_: according to /topic the current bastards seem to be ubunto people :o) |
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| 18:45.32 | hongry_ | ircdevil : that's funny, i was just fooling around with teh ubuntu distro, and decided it was a waste for my own personal needs. |
| 18:45.34 | ircdevil | ClayG: /etc/ssh/ssh_config - enagle x ssh login? |
| 18:45.49 | ircdevil | hongry_: good. use debian. we will help :o) |
| 18:45.49 | ClayG | well i can pull gimp through ssh |
| 18:45.56 | ClayG | and synaptic |
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| 18:46.20 | ircdevil | hm? |
| 18:46.22 | gpm | hi everyone. i have two domain names that go to my ip address, and two boxes, one of which is handling port 80 and the other which is firewalled. how do i make all requests for domain2.com go to the firewalled box, whose internal ip is 192.168.1.100? i think there's a way with mod_proxy, but i'm not totally sure how |
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| 18:46.45 | Alam_Linux | did anyone take a look at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ ? |
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| 18:47.36 | ircdevil | tarzeau: wiki is fucked again |
| 18:47.37 | vin` | tarzeau's disk is finally full? |
| 18:47.38 | stew | tarzeau: the wikifaq seems broken |
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| 18:47.57 | ircdevil | Alam_Linux: tarzeau have space problems on the box with the wiki. |
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| 18:48.08 | Alam_Linux | IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device <- yea, i noticed that... |
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| 18:48.14 | zinx | too much pr0n |
| 18:48.16 | fronter | Hi all |
| 18:48.19 | ircdevil | Alam_Linux: same problem a few days ago |
| 18:48.30 | adii | anyone could give me a hand with doing some basics stuff such as joining a network (talking about wifi) ? in pm cos it may take some time |
| 18:48.33 | ircdevil | zinx: exactly - türkish pron |
| 18:49.03 | zinx | hott |
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| 18:49.08 | ircdevil | adii: ask the channel, but consider your questions carefully :o) |
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| 18:50.29 | bonez39 | epsilon, thanks for the help |
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| 18:53.59 | adii | ok .. then : i'm trying to gain access to some neighbor wifi network. my wifi card seems to be working great. "iwlist scan" returns 2 networks and their properties. my problems : i can't ping anyone. i tried to configure my wifi card using iwconfig, and at last it looked like there was no ip address for wlan0. |
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| 18:54.16 | adii | i put one with ifconfig |
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| 18:54.47 | adii | but whatever should the ip be, i can ping noone but myself (using ping -b 192.168.0.255 , or 10.0.0.255 .. |
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| 18:55.11 | jetscreamer | no key at a guess |
| 18:55.19 | basix | i am unable to change the sound level in gnome. sound only works with xmms. totem or any other app isn't able to play back with sound. whats going on??? |
| 18:55.37 | adii | jetscreamer, actually you are totally right : there's no key |
| 18:55.44 | mrverbose | asg: eleminiating duplicate packages my faulty script generated, there are only 260 packages left :) |
| 18:55.52 | adii | but i wanna see the encrypted packets too |
| 18:55.53 | jetscreamer | there are some settings for multimedia in the gnome system thing i'd look |
| 18:56.02 | potato_head | My server currently runs woody. If i simply alter /etc/apt/sources.list appropriately, will apt-get dist-upgrade break anything? It's a pretty basic install, although I have previously installed the php5 backport from dotdeb.org... |
| 18:56.05 | adii | (for school purpose) |
| 18:56.13 | markybob | ha. |
| 18:56.42 | potato_head | (apologies for the newbie question ...) |
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| 18:56.52 | ircdevil | adii: there is no firewall eating the pings? |
| 18:57.13 | Silent_al | valdyn, thanx man, now, soldat works like a charm! w00t ^_^ |
| 18:57.20 | markybob | potato_head: i was laughing at adii, not you. anyway, the answer to your question is that you'll *probably* be fine. only thing is that backport. o |
| 18:57.32 | jetscreamer | dpkg woody->sarge |
| 18:57.33 | dpkg | First, "apt-get install aptitude". Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" to "sarge". Then, "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade". consider installing hotplug and discover1 if you're not confident with linux hardware management. see <sarge release notes>, or serious breakage for around 30% of users according to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00006.html |
| 18:58.01 | adii | ircdevil, i think there's none. the good thing with my local network is that i'm connected to internet with eth0 : and thereby i can ping successfully |
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| 18:58.27 | potato_head | thank you jetscreamer and markybob :-) |
| 18:58.28 | adii | markybob, may you explain your laughing at me ? |
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| 18:59.22 | jetscreamer | with you not at you |
| 18:59.36 | markybob | adii yeah. you're asking us how to help you break the law. access networks which dont belong to you, even if it is for "school purposes", has gotten people arrested |
| 18:59.39 | ircdevil | adii: does the output of ifconfig and route looks sane? |
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| 19:00.34 | quasimoto | anyone know of any good webmail programs that i can load up to hook into my own mail server? |
| 19:01.10 | ircdevil | quasimoto: squirrelmail ? |
| 19:01.12 | deadcat | squirrelmail? |
| 19:01.22 | ircdevil | deadcatmail? |
| 19:01.29 | ircdevil | (hehehehe) |
| 19:01.30 | deadcat | ircdevil: iwish (= |
| 19:01.35 | marccd | quasimoto: ilohamail, squirrelmail, imp horde |
| 19:01.38 | xbmodder_lappy | quad3datwork2, squirrelmail |
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| 19:01.41 | xbmodder_lappy | is |
| 19:01.42 | xbmodder_lappy | the |
| 19:01.43 | xbmodder_lappy | best |
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| 19:02.03 | xbmodder_lappy | Hey you guys wanna help benchmark my IRC network' |
| 19:02.06 | marccd | what is so special about squirrelmail ? I mean it doenst support pop. my isp locks me to pop.. it sucks |
| 19:02.17 | xbmodder_lappy | Hey you guys wanna help benchmark my IRC network's debian servers? They are at irc.atarack.com |
| 19:02.25 | marccd | gmail doesnt support imap.. |
| 19:02.31 | Dryfit | hi guys. i have problem with ralin rt2500 wifi card, any1 there who could send me a compiled module rt2500? |
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| 19:02.50 | adii | markybob, i'm not asking you to do the work of lawyers. I'm not breaking any law since my neighbors are aware of my acting. At last you should keep in mind that listening to encrypted packets is allowed. |
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| 19:03.44 | ircdevil | adii: marccd the correct argument is "we are probing the security for the benefit of us all" |
| 19:03.53 | markybob | Dryfit: been here? http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
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| 19:04.23 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 19:04.41 | adii | ircdevil, hehe ... i'll note that |
| 19:04.52 | quasimoto | does squirelmail only do IMAP? what about pop3 |
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| 19:04.58 | Mazingaro | I need help with k3b: I cannot write iso images on DVD (Data does not fit on disk) |
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| 19:05.05 | marccd | quasimoto: it doesnt support it.. lame |
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| 19:05.08 | ronin | quasimoto: check out the respective websites |
| 19:05.08 | adii | ircdevil, ifconfig wlan0 returns informations : i rebooted , so no inet address set up |
| 19:05.13 | marccd | quasimoto: thats why, check out imp horde or ilohamail |
| 19:05.18 | quasimoto | k |
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| 19:05.53 | Mazingaro | I need help with k3b: I cannot write iso images on DVD (Data does not fit on disk) even if image file is less than 4GB |
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| 19:06.05 | Dryfit | markybob: yes, there is a source, but i need compiled module since i need it for debian based router, it is not possible to compile on the damn thing.. |
| 19:06.08 | SerajewelKS | !tell Mazingaro about repeat |
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| 19:07.11 | marccd | Mazingaro: go to #kde or #k3b.. what does that have to do with debian? |
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| 19:07.34 | SerajewelKS | marccd: k3b is in debian.. #debian supports debian-packaged software to some extent |
| 19:07.48 | markybob | Dryfit: even if i gave you my module it probably wouldnt load in your kernel. odds that we have the exact same kernel are pretty low :) |
| 19:08.03 | marccd | SerajewelKS: yeah well you know my point |
| 19:08.12 | Kan3da | I'm trying to install some printer drivers but the install script halts on: "BUILD_DEVICES= XMLDevice~ Error: XML parser is undetected!" anyone got an idea how to fix this? |
| 19:08.42 | marccd | welcome to linux Kan3da |
| 19:08.43 | Dryfit | markybob: yes i know, but i'm still wiling to give it a shot:) |
| 19:09.09 | marccd | Kan3da: be more specific, what software, printer driver, command, etc |
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| 19:09.34 | Kan3da | srry, the omni driver from IBM |
| 19:09.41 | markybob | Dryfit: you are one very trusting main. module coming right up |
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| 19:09.55 | Kan3da | well, I'm just running the install script |
| 19:10.06 | Kan3da | to add the omni drivers to cups |
| 19:10.06 | jetscreamer | holy big phat pipe batman |
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| 19:10.22 | hongry_ | ok, straight away into my debian installation (latest testing version), I am getting "Debootstrap warning messages". This one is "Warning: Couldn't download package findutuils". |
| 19:10.34 | Kan3da | and I couldn't find it in apt-get |
| 19:11.10 | Dryfit | markybob: tnx:) im gonna try if it works..:) |
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| 19:12.42 | potato_head | hmmm #apt-get dist-upgrade (to move from woody to sarge) seems to only want to get 102MB of archives. Seems to me to be a small amount? It is only a basic server installation however. Does this seem right? Just wondering if i've missed something. |
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| 19:13.39 | Kan3da | hmm can't seem to install xml parser with debian either |
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| 19:13.51 | ircdevil | potato_head: you did run apt-get update first? |
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| 19:14.03 | potato_head | ircdevel: yes |
| 19:14.18 | potato_head | whoops, ircdevil: yes |
| 19:14.23 | ircdevil | potato_head: and basic ... well - sounds ok actually |
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| 19:14.51 | xim | hey, what's your favorite iptables script, eg. ferm, filtergen, shorewall, etc)? |
| 19:15.03 | WebMonkey | shorewall for me |
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| 19:15.12 | ircdevil | potato_head: i used to run debian on a 400 mb hd for years - that is one way to learn how to avoid the bloated applications :o) |
| 19:15.16 | tziku | any open office for debian ? |
| 19:15.16 | deadcat | guarddog is nice i heard. GUI too. |
| 19:15.16 | asg | xim: firehol is also worth looking at |
| 19:15.23 | ircdevil | xim: shorewall |
| 19:15.27 | deadcat | !tell tziku about search |
| 19:15.31 | Dallam | shorewall |
| 19:15.32 | Dryfit | markybob works fine..tnx:) |
| 19:15.33 | potato_head | ircdevil: thanks. What's the worst that can happen anyway? :-) |
| 19:15.36 | ircdevil | !oo |
| 19:15.37 | dpkg | i heard oo is normally "object oriented", but lately it's come to mean "Open Office" too |
| 19:15.41 | markybob | Dryfit: good. np |
| 19:15.54 | ircdevil | potato_head: you will prevail |
| 19:15.57 | Dryfit | c u :) |
| 19:16.28 | Kan3da | annoying! |
| 19:16.56 | xim | thanks to all, i know shorewall, will look at firehol |
| 19:17.05 | xim | debian community rocks :) |
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| 19:17.19 | ircdevil | !beer apt |
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| 19:17.58 | Anthro | I'm sure there is a factoid on it, but I don't know what to look under. How do I get the right apt-key for marillat's archive? |
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| 19:18.29 | chealer_ | hongry_: which medium are you installing from? |
| 19:18.31 | asg | Anthro: /msg dpkg marillat key |
| 19:18.54 | marccd | uit |
| 19:18.55 | potato_head | ircdevil: hmmm, perhaps. I don't have a monitor or keyboard available if I need single user mode though :-) |
| 19:19.13 | Anthro | asg: Thanks, just what I needed. |
| 19:19.19 | asg | Anthro: you're welcome |
| 19:19.30 | ircdevil | potato_head: what the heck. see what happens |
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| 19:20.32 | Kan3da | does anyone know how I can fix that xml device problem mentioned earlier? |
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| 19:21.06 | ircdevil | Kan3da: it is possible you are missing some xml lib. try google with the err mesg |
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| 19:21.39 | Anthro | Has anyone gotten cpad-kernel-source to compile with a 2.6.15 kernel? I tried module-assistant, but no dice. |
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| 19:21.57 | Kan3da | okay I'll try |
| 19:22.08 | potato_head | ircdevil: Quite. Sure it'll be fine. Hmmm, just thinking that I'd tailored the kernel specifically for the machine it's on. I guess I'll have to redo all that? If I think it's really worth it, that is... |
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| 19:23.38 | ircdevil | potato_head: we upgrade the kernel? |
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| 19:24.10 | potato_head | ircdevil: shrug... |
| 19:24.24 | hongry_ | Ok, I'm getting this error when installing base system, "couldn't download package liblzo1". Has something already gone catastrophically wrong? |
| 19:24.52 | ircdevil | potato_head: debian version and kernel versions is two different things. upgrading debian will not upgrade your kernel |
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| 19:25.07 | bizkit | how can i keep a bash script open without using read or a sleed? i want to run a bash script which captures signals, execute certain stuff if the signal is received (using trap) and then go back into "idle", without exiting? |
| 19:25.08 | chealer_ | hongry_: which medium are you installing from? |
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| 19:25.23 | bizkit | s/sleed/sleep/ |
| 19:25.27 | potato_head | ircdevil: (bear in mind I learn enough to get the system I want working as I like, and little more..) |
| 19:25.30 | Mardus | Hi. |
| 19:25.34 | potato_head | ircdevil: ah, okay |
| 19:25.50 | markybob | bizkit: you might have better luck in #bash |
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| 19:25.56 | potato_head | ircdevil: my bad :) |
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| 19:26.22 | deadcat | bizkit: &? |
| 19:26.30 | Mardus | I got apache installed, but how do I disable it from starting up during boot? |
| 19:26.40 | deadcat | Mardus: update-rc.d |
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| 19:27.00 | Mardus | deadcat: Is this a program or a config file? |
| 19:27.03 | [machine] | bizkit: <set up the traps>; while true; do true; done ? |
| 19:27.10 | zenwryly | how does one run a .jar file/ |
| 19:27.10 | zenwryly | ? |
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| 19:27.19 | deadcat | Mardus: program that handles the rcN.d symlinks |
| 19:27.20 | bizkit | deadcat: you mean running it with &? well doesn't it just run as a bg job then, and still exit? |
| 19:27.29 | ircdevil | zenwryly: man java |
| 19:27.41 | bizkit | [machine]: yeah i thought of a better method |
| 19:27.42 | [machine] | zen: java -jar <jar file> |
| 19:27.43 | Mardus | deadcat: Is it a CLI program? |
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| 19:27.52 | deadcat | Mardus: yes |
| 19:28.01 | Mardus | deadcat: Oh well... |
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| 19:29.08 | hongry_ | chealer_ : cdrom |
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| 19:29.28 | chealer_ | hongry_: which cdrom (ISO)? |
| 19:29.42 | gilber | Hello, i add a second hard disk to my Sarge, but i can't write in it as normal user, what can i do |
| 19:29.47 | hongry_ | chealer_ : debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 19:30.25 | chealer_ | hongry_: see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerToday |
| 19:30.41 | ircdevil | !tell gilber about permissions |
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| 19:31.04 | ircdevil | !seen greycat |
| 19:31.05 | dpkg | greycat <i=rfc1413@wooledge.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-bots, 14d 23h 10m 13s ago, saying: 'that one's 404. http://www.ruhr.de/home/smallo/award.html had it, but appears down/slow.'. |
| 19:31.16 | ircdevil | where is greycat? |
| 19:31.21 | Kan3da | !seen your_brain |
| 19:31.21 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'your_brain', Kan3da |
| 19:31.22 | asg | ircdevil: greycat no longer comes here |
| 19:31.29 | ircdevil | asg: why? |
| 19:31.44 | asg | ircdevil: /msg dpkg fable |
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| 19:32.15 | asg | ircdevil: I have only recently decided to come back myself |
| 19:32.25 | ircdevil | asg: but the wiki is down |
| 19:32.29 | petryk | msg dpkg |
| 19:32.33 | ircdevil | asg: why? whats going on? |
| 19:32.45 | zenwryly | ircdevil, bizkit: thanks |
| 19:33.02 | bizkit | ? |
| 19:33.06 | bizkit | !beer zenwryly |
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| 19:33.33 | zenwryly | bizkit: oops, that was for [machine] |
| 19:33.43 | zenwryly | [machine]: thanks |
| 19:33.55 | markybob | ircdevil: google cache is your friend. http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:FHjEaHRQ2ukJ:www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox |
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| 19:34.40 | asg | ircdevil: in a nutshell, some people complained that #debian was rude. Then some DDs showed up and started ordering us around. Regulars left. Things are a little better now but some of the old crew will not return. |
| 19:34.41 | gilber | ircdevil, i put rw in /etc/fstab, but nothing, i should change permissions of /mnt? |
| 19:35.06 | kspath | screw the polite police? |
| 19:35.25 | ircdevil | oh - you have been of whinning :o) |
| 19:36.03 | ircdevil | asg: DDs ? |
| 19:36.14 | asg | ircdevil: Debian Developers |
| 19:36.16 | kspath | Debian Developers |
| 19:36.22 | ircdevil | gilber: read on about permissions |
| 19:36.33 | asg | ircdevil: just read the wiki when tarzeau gets around to fixing the space issue; it's very eloquent. |
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| 19:37.24 | ircdevil | asg: bah - that is rediculous. rudeness is part of the game (thats why debian-women was made). mwilson is god! |
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| 19:37.34 | StR | hi all! |
| 19:37.53 | StR | is there a way to crack my dvd player to make it multi-region? |
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| 19:38.16 | asg | ircdevil: the issue wasn't about rudeness but about pandering to people who should do at least the bare minimum of research and understand IRC etiquette. |
| 19:38.18 | kspath | Rudeness and Politeness is VERY subjective and VERY relative. Pour in a few hyper sensitive personalities and who knows where it will end. |
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| 19:38.49 | StR | is there a way to crack my dvd player to make it region free? |
| 19:39.08 | gravity | asg: I think things are a lot better now |
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| 19:39.11 | ircdevil | asg: yeah i see. and of cause these DDs are not irc regulars? |
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| 19:39.30 | xbmodder_lappy | StR, that model |
| 19:39.41 | markybob | ircdevil: really, i sent you the link. go there. read :) |
| 19:39.41 | asg | gravity: agreed, they have calmed down. |
| 19:39.46 | StR | xbmodder_lappy: wha? |
| 19:39.49 | kspath | For some it is very rude to ask them to read a man page or read the README or read the wiki or read anything. They think it is most polite to paste in the exact solution in a one-liner to paste into their command line immediately with no delay or syntax/spelling issues. |
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| 19:39.53 | xbmodder_lappy | what |
| 19:39.55 | asg | ircdevil: no |
| 19:39.55 | StR | xbmodder_lappy: I don't understand yoy... |
| 19:40.00 | molinero | what software resize hfs? |
| 19:40.01 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 19:40.12 | xbmodder_lappy | is #debian full of idiots? |
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| 19:40.37 | gpm | hey guys. any way to get ProxyPreserveHost on apache 1.3? i'd rather avoid upgrading to apache2 if possible |
| 19:40.56 | gravity | kspath: I think it's all in how you say it. If you say "man foo" in response to someone, it's a bit terse. If you say "The answer is in the foo manpage. I don't remember it off the top of my head, but if you look there, you'll find it yourself." People are generally Ok with that. |
| 19:40.59 | asg | gpm: have you asked #apache? |
| 19:41.10 | gpm | asg: no, i thought there might be a debian package |
| 19:41.12 | gravity | kspath: It's a pain to type all that, but it goes a long way |
| 19:41.25 | kspath | xbmodder_lappy: depends on your basis for the definition of an idiot. That is quite relative and subjective. |
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| 19:41.42 | asg | gpm: well, if you know which apache module provides that Directive, we might be able to help. |
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| 19:42.11 | marccd | how can I kick a user logged on to my system via ssh without killing ssh? |
| 19:42.14 | Kan3da | I keep getting the same error and can't find anything on google: "BUILD_DEVICES= XMLDevice~ |
| 19:42.14 | Kan3da | Error: XML parser is undetected! |
| 19:42.14 | Kan3da | " |
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| 19:42.26 | gpm | asg: it's mod_proxy, but the mod_proxy in 1.3.x doesn't have ProxyPreserveHost |
| 19:42.27 | markybob | marccd: you have root? |
| 19:42.32 | marccd | markybob: yep |
| 19:42.36 | markybob | marccd: kill -KILL his process |
| 19:42.40 | marccd | markybob: bash? |
| 19:42.49 | markybob | marccd: yeah |
| 19:42.54 | marccd | markybob: how can I list a users proccesses? |
| 19:43.02 | asg | gpm: then it is possible that that is a directive provided by the mod_proxy in apache2 only. I don't know for sure though. |
| 19:43.07 | xbmodder_lappy | kspath, idiot = str = molinero |
| 19:43.11 | markybob | marccd: ps aux |grep user |
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| 19:43.16 | ircdevil | asg: that is a shame. but its good your back. |
| 19:43.24 | marccd | markybob: thanks |
| 19:43.32 | marccd | markybob: -KILL same as -9? |
| 19:43.37 | fatal___ | marccd: ps U username |
| 19:43.59 | marccd | fatal___: even better thanks |
| 19:44.01 | ircdevil | asg: but of cause greycat is also a guy of principles. i remember his open letter for g. bush :o) |
| 19:44.08 | kspath | gravity: that is when it pays to pre-process auto-responses for the various repetitive questions. Often the "rude" response of man command is a response to a complete lack of any attempt to solve/examine/understand/think about a problem or lack of a problem. Perhaps it will lead to them understands that they are trying to find a problem for a silly solution. |
| 19:44.08 | asg | ircdevil: it is, since greycat was very knowlegeble and funny. |
| 19:44.21 | marccd | fatal___: is there a way to print only the pid? |
| 19:44.28 | ircdevil | asg: and probably very stubborn too? |
| 19:44.35 | asg | ircdevil: oh indeed. |
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| 19:44.44 | marccd | fatal___: or the first colummn if ps does not support such thing |
| 19:44.45 | asg | ircdevil: he still hangs out with us on #debian-offtopic |
| 19:45.00 | Kan3da | I installed several packages that involved xml device or xml parser but nothing works |
| 19:45.16 | Kan3da | still complains about being unable to find it |
| 19:45.18 | fatal___ | marccd: probably, but I don't have a clue... pipe it to cut -f1 -d' ' |
| 19:45.25 | zebalin4 | I have kde 3.5 and the new hal 0.5. I can't eject a cd unless I go to root and type 'eject' twice. Anyone have an idea? |
| 19:45.25 | kspath | ugh, I need caffiene drips |
| 19:45.28 | asg | Kan3da: are you compiling something from source? |
| 19:45.30 | molinero | xbmodder_lappy = gay |
| 19:45.38 | ircdevil | asg: hrm that is also a shame - i am not sure it serves anything being pissed off for more than a few days |
| 19:45.38 | Kan3da | yeah |
| 19:45.56 | asg | Kan3da: make sure you get the '*-dev' package for the xml library. |
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| 19:46.15 | asg | Kan3da: just installing the library doesn't install the headers; they are split into a foo-dev package |
| 19:46.43 | Kan3da | okay, do you know what the name for the xml parser library is? |
| 19:46.46 | asg | ircdevil: I think it went deeper than that since he was one of the original #debian people; I don't know for sure though. |
| 19:46.47 | ircdevil | asg: tell him to get his act together and get in here an insult me. i mean, if he refuses to help out on #debian, i refuse to read man pages no more! |
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| 19:47.13 | ircdevil | asg: who else left? |
| 19:47.17 | asg | ircdevil: he's still active on #bash and #qmail and is now maintaining the Bash FAQ |
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| 19:47.43 | asg | ircdevil: PerfDave, directhex, a few others. Some were banned (FieldySnuts, mwilson) |
| 19:47.43 | Kan3da | I installed libxml-parser-perl already |
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| 19:47.58 | gravity | It was about time |
| 19:48.10 | kspath | There is life without/after #debian? |
| 19:48.16 | ircdevil | asg: heh :o) remember kingnato and xk? kingnato discovered macosx, and xk got a new job afaik - and that was the end of those guys... |
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| 19:48.25 | jelly | what's "life"? |
| 19:48.30 | jamuraa | grr. every other part of my system accepts ^? as backspace, but screen is stupid apparently |
| 19:48.32 | ircdevil | asg: really - mwilson banned? |
| 19:48.42 | asg | gravity: perhaps, they were, while annoying, fixtures and harmless. |
| 19:48.51 | gravity | asg: I disagree |
| 19:48.55 | gravity | They were certaintly not harmless |
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| 19:50.01 | asg | gravity: I know where you are coming from. IRC is different these days. When I started using IRC in the early 90s, it was customary to lurk, learn the lay of the land and only then start talking. |
| 19:50.05 | Kan3da | asg: I installed libxml-parser-perl and libxml-perl but it still won't install |
| 19:50.26 | shadows | Guerin mentioned that debian trolls are something of a tradition on #debian |
| 19:50.27 | gravity | asg: I know. That's how I handle irc, but they weren't exactly kind to anyone |
| 19:50.38 | kspath | The bloodshed was horrific. Noobs strewn about. Arms and legs bent into various shapes indicating lack of RTFM. |
| 19:50.50 | shadows | heh |
| 19:50.56 | zebalin4 | hal and kde 3.5 suck. I'm sick of it all. Time to buy a mac !!!!!!!!!! :-) |
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| 19:51.28 | asg | gravity: no, true. |
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| 19:51.43 | zebalin4 | I find that hal is not mounting audio cds. Why? |
| 19:51.58 | markybob | zebalin4: because audio cds dont get mounted. |
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| 19:52.05 | gravity | asg: It crossed the line when they stopped helping *anyone* and would just troll anyone with a simple question |
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| 19:53.03 | kspath | It is easier to just answer simple questions rather than give them a good burn. |
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| 19:53.22 | gravity | Anyway, the people who enacted the bans were all regulars. Don and helix, who beat me to the punch |
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| 19:53.43 | gravity | So it wasn't like it was outsiders actually doing anything, even if they showed up and made some noise briefly |
| 19:54.13 | shadows | gravity: holy trollbans, batman |
| 19:54.39 | shadows | when did this all go down? =) |
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| 19:54.42 | zebalin4 | markybob: my mistake in typing. hal seems to be mounting them. I click on audio cd icon and up comes knoq. with file list. |
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| 19:55.12 | zebalin4 | I can play the cd but can't eject the damn things unless I go to root and type 'eject' once or twice. |
| 19:55.19 | gravity | shadows: A few months ago |
| 19:55.33 | hongry_ | Why do the Debian install cds have to suck? |
| 19:55.35 | shadows | oh |
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| 19:55.43 | gamblastic | heya |
| 19:55.44 | marccd | I am getting Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check any ideas? |
| 19:55.48 | shadows | i was going to add that there's still some grumpy people lurking around |
| 19:55.51 | gravity | hongry_: How so? |
| 19:55.53 | shadows | not one to name nicks though. |
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| 19:56.15 | hongry_ | gravity : well, i've now tried 3 cds, 2 of which have not had sata support, and the one that did can't install the base system either. |
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| 19:56.27 | asg | gravity: that's true but at the same time, the general climate of people asking questions had changed dramatically and they didn't adapt; I've seen managers suffer from the same problem. |
| 19:56.31 | hongry_ | and i'm mostly pissed because now i'm almost out of disks |
| 19:57.02 | repp | hongry_: sata is still too new to have perfect support |
| 19:57.06 | gravity | hongry_: Which CD's are these? The sarge release does support SATA, although there are apparently some issues with newer hardware |
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| 19:57.20 | gravity | asg: Agreed |
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| 19:57.33 | bucky | hongry_, the regular debian install kernel is too old for most modern sata |
| 19:57.52 | bucky | hongry_, /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.14 |
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| 19:58.17 | hcy | anybody know what "famd" is? "top" shows it eating up all my cpu |
| 19:58.18 | djbuldog | Use somebody acx100 driver? I have trouble with uploading fw..... |
| 19:58.31 | asg | hcy: it's the file alteration monitoring daemon |
| 19:59.05 | Kan3da | bleh, why can't debian packages be complete |
| 19:59.07 | gamblastic | im still on 2.6.8-2-k7, cant seem to update it.. not even by changing my repos ;/ |
| 19:59.21 | hcy | asg: what does it do/ what uses it? |
| 19:59.38 | kspath | hongry_: You are burning the disk yourself it appears based on your question/statement. Are you burning them at 8x DAO or are you trying something like 48x TAO ? |
| 20:00.12 | tziku | hello , can i acces open office from http and modif/view ? |
| 20:00.14 | asg | hcy: a good way to find out is to run 'apt-get remove famd' and see what it will remove; that will tell you what depends on it. |
| 20:00.18 | kspath | hongry_: are you getting any errors? |
| 20:00.26 | ircdevil | asg: netsnipe? |
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| 20:00.29 | asg | hcy: sorry, apt-get remove fam |
| 20:00.29 | repp | hcy: you can kill it |
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| 20:01.05 | Kan3da | I guess I'll just install mandriva then :( |
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| 20:01.54 | abrotman | because you can't figure out -dev packages? |
| 20:02.06 | Kan3da | I can but it won't work |
| 20:02.14 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 20:02.22 | Kan3da | I installed all the libs and it still won't work |
| 20:02.23 | hcy | asg: its not necessary/important? |
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| 20:02.42 | repp | Kan3da: sounds like Mandriva will be better for you. If Debian causes you so much pain, why keep doing it? |
| 20:02.43 | asg | hcy: it isn't, unless something you have installed relies on it. I don't use it personally. |
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| 20:03.02 | woodwizzle | I'm having trouble with nfs. The server can't see the contents of one of the shared folders, but oddly enough all the clients can?!' |
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| 20:03.16 | asg | Kan3da: if you are compiling source and tried and failed and then installed the -dev package; do a 'make clean ; make distclean' before re-running ./configure --foo |
| 20:03.16 | abrotman | Kan3da: that's kind of vague |
| 20:03.23 | hcy | asg: ok thanks i'm getting rid of it |
| 20:04.02 | basix | when i try to compile my wifi driver, get this error -> ieee80211_crypt: version magic '2.6.12-1-686 686 gcc-3.3' should be '2.6.12-1-686 686 gcc-4.0'. |
| 20:04.11 | asg | Kan3da: if this is a Perl thing, which seems likely given what you said earlier, which Perl module are you trying to use? |
| 20:04.19 | Kan3da | asg: it's not a regular make file |
| 20:04.33 | sweet_kate | hello i m in xfce4, and (i don t know how) clickinng in some config panels (i dont remember where), they disappeared my taskbar and the other bar!!!how to resotre? |
| 20:04.42 | shadows | basix: you must compile your kernel and your modules with the exact same version of gcc |
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| 20:05.00 | asg | Kan3da: then just delete the source and untar the tarball again to get a clean build env. |
| 20:05.11 | Kan3da | asg: okay |
| 20:05.11 | bighorn | is there a mirror site for debian security? |
| 20:05.13 | repp | basix: kernel 2.6.14 has ipw2200 compiled in, no extra work req'd |
| 20:05.14 | abrotman | or go install mandriva |
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| 20:05.22 | abrotman | bighorn: it's a round robin dns thing |
| 20:05.33 | gamblastic | how can i upgrade my kernel? |
| 20:05.38 | Kan3da | abrotman: I don't WANT to install mandriva |
| 20:05.41 | gamblastic | apt-get says i got the newest ;/ |
| 20:05.47 | bighorn | golly i've been trying to get kernel-source and keeps timing out. |
| 20:05.48 | repp | Kan3da: how about Ubuntu? |
| 20:05.48 | gamblastic | im on 2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 20:05.49 | asg | gamblastic: apt-get install kernel-image (pick and install one from those presented) |
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| 20:06.00 | abrotman | gamblastic: if you're on sarge .. that is the newest |
| 20:06.00 | asg | gamblastic: if you are running stable, 2.6.8 is the newest stable kernel |
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| 20:06.13 | Kan3da | I like debian :) |
| 20:06.17 | gamblastic | ah ok im on stable |
| 20:06.29 | debtoo | i like debian too :-) |
| 20:06.31 | basix | shadows, yeah google told me that |
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| 20:06.58 | repp | basix: what wifi card are you trying to build support for? |
| 20:07.05 | basix | repp, the problem is that i am running sarge and i dont know how to install the 2.6.14 kernel. apt-cache search doesnt list that kernel |
| 20:07.15 | basix | repp, intel 2200PRO |
| 20:07.17 | [Elvis] | how can I install all the perl libraries? |
| 20:07.18 | basix | repp, b/h |
| 20:07.23 | Kan3da | it's just that mandriva and other rpm based distro's provide a omni rpm |
| 20:07.24 | abrotman | you don't need 2.6.14 for that |
| 20:07.26 | shadows | basix: most people use 'kernel-package' utilities |
| 20:07.26 | repp | basix: right ok, ipw2200 is the module |
| 20:07.27 | basix | repp, *b/g |
| 20:07.28 | abrotman | !ipw2200 |
| 20:07.28 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, to install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. you will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) packages installed, and you will need contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200, or ipw2200-source will only compile on a 2.6 kernel |
| 20:07.37 | Kan3da | and debian doesn't provide it |
| 20:07.40 | Kan3da | :S |
| 20:07.43 | debtoo | i've got a problem trying to load ndiswrapper module into a custom compiled vanilla 2.6.14 kernel, I get the following error: |
| 20:07.46 | debtoo | FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.14/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 20:07.51 | debtoo | in dmesg I see: |
| 20:07.55 | abrotman | #kernel or #ndiswrapper |
| 20:08.08 | shadows | debtoo: ndiswrapper is _completely_ unsupported in Debian |
| 20:08.10 | abrotman | wtf is omni ? |
| 20:08.12 | [Elvis] | can anyone tell me how I can install all the perl libraries? |
| 20:08.16 | debtoo | ndiswrapper: Unknown symbol wireless_send_event |
| 20:08.16 | abrotman | shadows: kind of |
| 20:08.24 | abrotman | !info ndiswrapper-src etch |
| 20:08.32 | Kan3da | abrotman: printer driver of cups |
| 20:08.33 | abrotman | bah .. it's there somewhere |
| 20:08.40 | abrotman | !find omni sarge |
| 20:08.54 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'omni' (5 of 34): (/usr/bin/omniMapper) in devel/omniorb4 ;; (/etc/X11/xkb/geometry/omnibook) in libs/xlibs ;; (/usr/bin/{omnicpp|omniidl|omniidlrun.py}) in devel/omniidl4 ;; (/usr/include/gnuradio/omnithread.h) in libdevel/libgnuradio-core0-dev ;; (/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Synopsis/Parser/IDL/omni.py) in devel/synopsis. |
| 20:09.00 | debtoo | abrotman: huh? |
| 20:09.01 | shadows | abrotman: i would think that ndiswrapper, fglrx, and the nvidia-kernel drivers would all be non-free |
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| 20:09.19 | abrotman | debtoo: you're using a vanilla kernel .. |
| 20:09.32 | abrotman | shadows: they are .. but they are in non-free or contrib or whatever |
| 20:09.39 | debtoo | a standard kernel from kernel.org |
| 20:09.50 | abrotman | !info ndiswrapper-source etch |
| 20:09.55 | asg | [Elvis]: apt-cache search . | grep perl | grep ^lib | awk '{print $1}' (will list all available Perl module packages in debian) |
| 20:09.55 | dpkg | ndiswrapper-source: (Source for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.1-4 (etch), Packaged size: 103 kB, Installed size: 152 kB |
| 20:09.58 | Kan3da | abrotman: that doesn't really look like the omni I'm looking for |
| 20:10.06 | abrotman | debtoo: why did you compile your own kernel ? |
| 20:10.09 | basix | abrotman, apt-get doesnt find build-assistant |
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| 20:10.36 | abrotman | it's not ccalled build-assistant |
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| 20:10.41 | [Elvis] | asg how can I automatically install them then? |
| 20:10.46 | debtoo | i prefer it, having more control, newer kernel and leaner, plus I'm more familiar with this approach across distros |
| 20:11.00 | peterS | asg: no need to use two greps, just grep ^lib.*-perl |
| 20:11.04 | abrotman | there is build-essential and module-assisstant |
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| 20:11.43 | asg | peterS: yeah, I was building a pipeline, not optimizing it :) |
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| 20:12.03 | [Elvis] | asg how can I instlal them all at once? |
| 20:12.08 | basix | abrotman, ok |
| 20:12.19 | asg | [Elvis]: you probably don't want to and some may conflict causing problems. |
| 20:12.37 | Kan3da | asg: nop still the same problem |
| 20:12.41 | debtoo | does anybody know why i can't load the ndiswrapper module? |
| 20:12.47 | [Elvis] | well asg for some weird reason I don't have any packages..so I can't compile mythtv... |
| 20:12.51 | abrotman | ask #ndiswrapper |
| 20:13.03 | [Elvis] | very weird...I did a fresh debian install and last time it all went without a hitch |
| 20:13.38 | [Elvis] | now It's complaining it misses a lot like QTable and QFrame shit |
| 20:13.44 | gamblastic | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:, LANGUAGE = "nl:en_GB:en", LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "nl_NL@euro" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). |
| 20:13.47 | gamblastic | i get this error ;/ |
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| 20:13.50 | debtoo | ok, but I think this is a more general problem in module loading, I've failed to load other modules before but not been too bothered because I generally compile everything I want into the kernel itself |
| 20:13.55 | asg | gamblastic: /msg dpkg locales |
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| 20:14.02 | gamblastic | ok |
| 20:14.12 | asg | [Elvis]: did you use aptitude last time but not this time? |
| 20:14.22 | nimmer | hey, i installed the jabber-muc package... but how can i start it? or does it start with /etc/init.d/jabber start ? =( |
| 20:14.25 | gamblastic | thnx heaps |
| 20:14.26 | asg | Kan3da: well, please paste the error you get. |
| 20:14.47 | Florian-T | hi all |
| 20:14.53 | Kan3da | BUILD_DEVICES= XMLDevice~ |
| 20:14.53 | Kan3da | Linking "HP LaserJet" to "HPLaserJet" |
| 20:14.53 | Kan3da | Error: XML parser is undetected! |
| 20:15.02 | gamblastic | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 20:15.03 | gamblastic | locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 20:15.03 | gamblastic | locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 20:15.03 | gamblastic | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is not installed |
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| 20:15.06 | Florian-T | have a litte problem whith DPKG |
| 20:15.07 | [Elvis] | no asg |
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| 20:15.10 | gamblastic | my bad |
| 20:15.11 | Florian-T | dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to |
| 20:15.14 | malc__ | Can anyone give me an idea how to find out what BusID my graphics card is on? It's a PCI-X radeon |
| 20:15.26 | bbrazil | malc__: just leave it blank |
| 20:15.34 | bucky | Kan3da, i think it's looking for libxml2 |
| 20:15.36 | Florian-T | this prevents a uninstall of a package |
| 20:15.40 | basix | abrotman, i get this error: Installation of the ipw2200-source source failed. Ignoring this package. Maybe you need to add something to sources.list, maybe the contrib and non-free archives. |
| 20:15.54 | bbrazil | malc__: unless you have 2 video cards, or are on powerpc (apparently) |
| 20:15.56 | Kan3da | let me try to install that |
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| 20:16.00 | malc__ | okay.. X.org isn't starting because it says..."No matching device for instance BusID blahblah |
| 20:16.09 | bbrazil | malc__: the other answer is 'lspci' |
| 20:16.15 | gamblastic | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1670 |
| 20:16.17 | gamblastic | got this |
| 20:16.23 | gamblastic | asg^ |
| 20:16.26 | bucky | Kan3da, and libxml2-dev |
| 20:16.32 | malc__ | does that find pci-x cards as well, I just did it and couldn't see anything that looked like it was a card. hold on. |
| 20:16.43 | asg | gamblastic: did you 'apt-get install locales' ? |
| 20:16.56 | Kan3da | bucky: okay installing |
| 20:16.57 | asg | Kan3da: isn't mythtv python based? |
| 20:17.00 | gamblastic | no havent |
| 20:17.01 | malc__ | ah wait there it is |
| 20:17.04 | abrotman | basix: probably contrib AND non-free |
| 20:17.10 | abrotman | !tell basix about contrib |
| 20:17.10 | asg | gamblastic: do that first |
| 20:17.12 | gamblastic | that might be it lol |
| 20:17.12 | abrotman | !tell basix about non-free |
| 20:17.17 | gamblastic | installing |
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| 20:17.37 | malc__ | 0000:01:00.0 is what it says next to the card.. manually put that in the x config file? |
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| 20:18.19 | lamp_ | how can i dissable dma of my hard drive at startup |
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| 20:18.22 | Kan3da | asg: yeah, I think so, why? |
| 20:18.36 | Kan3da | bucky: thanks it worked! thnx!! |
| 20:18.39 | asg | Kan3da: just curious if you needed python based XML parsers. |
| 20:18.54 | gravity_ | malc__: How many video cards do you have? |
| 20:18.58 | nimmer | =( has someone jabber-muc running? |
| 20:19.03 | abrotman | malc__: probably not |
| 20:19.04 | malc__ | 1, but it is dualhead |
| 20:19.14 | malc__ | nothing plugged into the secondary output though |
| 20:19.36 | gravity | malc__: Ok, you should probaby include that bus id in the config then, yeah |
| 20:19.52 | malc__ | okay |
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| 20:21.18 | suthink | I just installed vsftp, and set the config options appropriately. How exactly will others now access the server? |
| 20:21.23 | abrotman | with an ftp client |
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| 20:21.24 | asg | suthink: with an ftp client |
| 20:21.29 | gamblastic | out of curiousity: how long have you guys been using debian? :) |
| 20:21.30 | malc__ | so I'd want BusID "PCI:01:00:0" then? |
| 20:21.47 | asg | gamblastic: since slink |
| 20:21.49 | peterS | malc__: whatever 'lspci -X' says. but normally you can just omit that field, if you don't have multiple graphics cards |
| 20:21.52 | drac | malc__: lspci -X | grep -i vga |
| 20:21.53 | gravity | malc__: I think so. I don't have much experience with dual head stuff... |
| 20:21.55 | gamblastic | slink? |
| 20:21.56 | sweet_kate | how can i start a new session keeping this one? (typing CTRL + what??) |
| 20:21.58 | drac | hmm i'm slow |
| 20:21.58 | asg | !slink |
| 20:21.58 | dpkg | Slink (Debian 2.1) was released March 1999. It is no longer supported. Ask me about slink->potato. |
| 20:22.06 | gamblastic | ah ok |
| 20:22.09 | [Elvis] | what's the big difference between ext2 and ext3? |
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| 20:22.11 | gamblastic | long.. |
| 20:22.11 | suthink | asg: using what IP? |
| 20:22.17 | asg | [Elvis]: journaling |
| 20:22.18 | gravity | Hrm, potato and verrry late slink for me |
| 20:22.23 | asg | suthink: hmm? |
| 20:22.29 | [Elvis] | meaning asg? |
| 20:22.38 | shadows | malc__: radeons have a bug in the ATI drivers which makes autodetection sometimes fail. there will be two PCI bus IDs, one of them is correct, the other will fail with a message indicating it was working and mysteriously failed, but that other one is not correct. |
| 20:22.39 | amee2k | gamblastic: 48h + lambda now :) |
| 20:22.47 | abrotman | meaning .. it's a journaled FS ? |
| 20:22.49 | ircdevil | well, i shall illustrate my puny judgement ability. phd thesis is due in 4 day. results and discussion sections are very unfinished. and i am going on a beer outing ... |
| 20:22.50 | gamblastic | ok |
| 20:22.59 | gamblastic | i use it for a couple weeks now |
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| 20:23.23 | suthink | asg: how to create an ftp user for the server? |
| 20:23.36 | asg | ircdevil: I always found that such deadlines concentrate the mind. |
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| 20:24.04 | Kan3da | suthink: try googling for a good howto on setting up a ftp server |
| 20:24.14 | asg | suthink: it depends on if you are using system users or virtual users. /usr/share/doc/vsftpd contains plenty of information for both configurations |
| 20:24.23 | suthink | thanks |
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| 20:25.54 | ircdevil | asg i find them bad for my liver ... |
| 20:26.20 | cryonv | Argh... |
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| 20:26.34 | keyhack | How can I get "lircd" to start up on boot? |
| 20:26.45 | abrotman | use an initscript |
| 20:26.58 | dondelelcaro | keyhack: if you install lirc, it'll start on boo |
| 20:27.01 | dondelelcaro | s/boo/boot/ |
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| 20:27.50 | adii | i've probs trying to access a wifi network. at first i'd like to "see" the (encrypted) packets from the network using for example Ethereal. But, upon selecting the interface, i can see there's no ip address for the wireless network card. what should i do ? (forcing it with "ifconfig wlan0 inet 192.168.0.22" doesn't seem to make things evolve) |
| 20:28.02 | keyhack | dondelelcaro: I did, but it won't |
| 20:28.18 | cryonv | What is the command that I need to use to just upgrade everything on the system? My system is stuck now in limbo land because my attempt to upgrade to the 2.6 kernel created a major instability... |
| 20:28.32 | abrotman | dist-upgrade ? |
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| 20:29.42 | Neverth | btw, about lirc, any idea why does lirc stop responding when you use gnomad (or the library generally) to transfer stuff to jukebox(es) |
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| 20:31.11 | cryonv | Hmmm... ok let me go try again... |
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| 20:33.09 | dondelelcaro | keyhack: then make sure that it installed an init.d script, and figure out why the init.d script isn't starting lircd. |
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| 20:33.15 | dondelelcaro | keyhack: if it didn't install one, use confmiss. |
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| 20:34.37 | keyhack | dondelelcaro: It didn't install one. I'm compiling by source since the packages won't work |
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| 20:35.44 | tongueroo | im using vsftpd, is there a way to check on the status of current uploads and downloads like there is with proftpd (ftptop) |
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| 20:35.58 | resiak | tongueroo: Why not ask the vsftpd folks? |
| 20:36.06 | abrotman | resiak: but where might they be? |
| 20:36.11 | Daveman | Hi abrotman :) |
| 20:36.14 | abrotman | hi |
| 20:36.22 | resiak | abrotman: I don't know! Not at #vsftpd, surely |
| 20:36.36 | abrotman | resiak: i wonder if tongueroo would know that .. you surely are a smart chap |
| 20:36.40 | tongueroo | yup, just checked that channel |
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| 20:37.13 | tongueroo | abrotman: you giving me way too much credit |
| 20:37.13 | resiak | abrotman: I think tongueroo is smart. Do you think the documentation might talk about these things? |
| 20:37.45 | abrotman | resiak: surely not .. documentation isn't to be read! |
| 20:38.55 | resiak | abrotman: Course not. I tend to burn it |
| 20:39.11 | phar0z | hi all |
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| 20:39.28 | abrotman | resiak: jeez .. at least i recycle |
| 20:39.31 | all | Hi phar0z. |
| 20:39.45 | phar0z | i am trying to install a logitech quickcam under debian 3.1 |
| 20:40.26 | abrotman | you mean .. Debian Sarge Stable 3.1! |
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| 20:40.40 | phar0z | no debian 3.1 etch linux kernel 2.6.15 |
| 20:40.49 | keyhack | dondelelcaro: Everything works fine when I "make install" from the source folder, but other than that, nothing happens on bootup. You can't even cat /dev/lirc, says it doesn't exist. Won't work until I make install |
| 20:40.50 | vimman | how do i find the maximum bandwidth with which i can communicate to my ram |
| 20:40.52 | resiak | Etch is not 3.1 |
| 20:41.09 | dondelelcaro | keyhack: uh... lirc is in Debian. Use the copy we distribute. |
| 20:41.10 | abrotman | and etch doesnt' have 2.6.15 |
| 20:41.22 | keyhack | dondelelcaro: It won't work, thats why |
| 20:41.26 | moshii | vimman: with a calculator |
| 20:41.31 | dondelelcaro | !doesn't work |
| 20:41.31 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 20:41.48 | keyhack | dondelelcaro: you cannot compile the modules for the kernel |
| 20:41.57 | keyhack | dondelelcaro: lirc-modules-source |
| 20:42.10 | vimman | moshii: is it not possible ? |
| 20:42.10 | dondelelcaro | keyhack: why not? |
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| 20:43.19 | moshii | vimman: do you want to work out what your memory possible throughput is? memtest works that out if you don't want to do it by hand .. |
| 20:43.33 | suthink | what's the default login/pass for an anonymous user on |
| 20:43.43 | suthink | vfsftp |
| 20:43.47 | moshii | vimman: if you want actual throughput you could try apt-cache search benchmark |
| 20:43.49 | suthink | *vsftp |
| 20:44.00 | drac | suthink: anything@anything.anything |
| 20:44.06 | drac | suthink: use your imagenation ;) |
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| 20:44.31 | deadcat | drac: whats up.. (= anything new with xorg? |
| 20:45.07 | drac | deadcat: mmh, nothing intresting new I guess.. |
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| 20:45.11 | drac | deadcat: but all is good ;) |
| 20:45.16 | dn4 | I am interested in setting up a wireless network in my neighborhood, but lack direction on what type of omni or directional antenna to use. I have a 100 foot radio antenna in my backyard, could I turn that into a device to send out a signal of 2.4ghz? |
| 20:45.25 | deadcat | drac: got xcompmgr and transset from experimental (= heheh |
| 20:45.26 | ultraviolet16 | hey everyone, i just reinstalled debian and I'm having some trouble getting xstarted.. |
| 20:45.34 | moshii | dn4: probably not |
| 20:45.54 | epsilon | ultraviolet16: we are so sorry |
| 20:46.00 | suthink | drac: my vsftpd.conf is ok, but I get login incorrect |
| 20:46.01 | deadcat | drac: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/xwd_20060120_24392.png i also installed 3ddesktop hahah. very fancy |
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| 20:46.03 | drac | deadcat: xcompmgr and transset are just demos.. for windowmanager developers, get a wm that has buildin compositor! :) |
| 20:46.04 | ultraviolet16 | epsilon: 0_o |
| 20:46.07 | gravity | ultraviolet16: What's the problem? |
| 20:46.11 | dn4 | moshii, Any ideas on how to build an antenna? |
| 20:46.14 | keyhack | dondelelcaro: They just won't compile |
| 20:46.21 | deadcat | drac: true. but since openbox dont have... |
| 20:46.33 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: i installed xorg from backports and now it's not found |
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| 20:46.44 | drac | deadcat: yeh.. |
| 20:46.51 | epsilon | what's not found? |
| 20:46.55 | ultraviolet16 | xserver tries to start but it tells me that.. damn i'm not sure how to explain the problem.. that's what I'm trying to figure out now |
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| 20:47.12 | ultraviolet16 | where can i find a log? |
| 20:47.20 | ultraviolet16 | so I can better explain the issue |
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| 20:47.28 | moshii | dn4: http://www.binarywolf.com/249/ |
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| 20:47.47 | epsilon | probably in /var/log... sort the files to last change time and read latest logs |
| 20:47.48 | dn4 | Another question. Is there a way to take my 400mhz computer and turn it into a wireless router? |
| 20:48.06 | resiak | Sure, if you have a wireless card for it. |
| 20:48.15 | gravity | yonkeltron: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 20:48.18 | gravity | ultraviolet16: ^ |
| 20:48.25 | gravity | yonkeltron: Sorry, that was for ultraviolet16. Bad typing. |
| 20:48.26 | dn4 | resiak, would a simple pci wireless card work? |
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| 20:48.37 | deadcat | dn4: if it supports master mode |
| 20:48.42 | gravity | ultraviolet16: If you could put that log up, that'd be great |
| 20:48.47 | ultraviolet16 | GDM: xserver not found |
| 20:48.52 | dn4 | hmm, master mode meaning it can send and recieve the wireless? |
| 20:48.57 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Do you have xserver-xorg installed? |
| 20:48.58 | deadcat | dn4: a AP or a wireless router is much cheaper. |
| 20:48.59 | ultraviolet16 | ok, let me put it in pastebin |
| 20:49.09 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: I am pretty sure I did install it.. |
| 20:49.10 | dn4 | deadcat, AP? |
| 20:49.13 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Check |
| 20:49.14 | ultraviolet16 | .. let me try again..? |
| 20:49.16 | ultraviolet16 | hold on |
| 20:49.17 | moshii | dn4: get a WRT54 or something, the older ones run linux :) |
| 20:49.19 | deadcat | dn4: access point |
| 20:49.23 | gravity | ultraviolet16: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg |
| 20:49.53 | deadcat | 7.0? |
| 20:49.58 | amee2k | in the slapd docs is a reference to a tool called ldif2ldbm. It is required for the howto but I can't find it with apt-file. any ideas? |
| 20:49.59 | gravity | Yes |
| 20:50.02 | deadcat | cool |
| 20:50.07 | suthink | what's the default login/pass for an anonymous user on vsftp? |
| 20:50.20 | deadcat | i dont know the diff between 6.9 and 7.0, but it sounds cool (= |
| 20:50.21 | resiak | !find ldif2ldbw |
| 20:50.30 | resiak | I suck... |
| 20:50.35 | dn4 | moshii, what I am interested in doing is taking my 400 mhz computer and using m0n0wall as a router and making it a wireless type router for my house. |
| 20:50.35 | resiak | !find ldif2ldbm |
| 20:50.37 | gravity | deadcat: Dramatic package reorganization, but the underlying code is identical |
| 20:50.39 | resiak | Damned fat fingers... |
| 20:50.42 | moshii | xorg keeps growing to several gigs on my machine.. filled 3 gig of swap yesterday :/ |
| 20:50.44 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: damn I think I just forgot to install it. i doubt that. i wonder what the hell happend |
| 20:50.50 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'ldif2ldbm' returned no results. |
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| 20:50.58 | deadcat | gravity: oh. what about the "module" stuff? |
| 20:51.02 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: tells me package not found |
| 20:51.03 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Well don't worry about it now. Just install the thing. |
| 20:51.13 | gravity | deadcat: What are you talking about? |
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| 20:51.29 | deadcat | gravity: thats what i hear you guys say alot about modular or something. |
| 20:51.29 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Package not found... put your sources.list up on a paster please. |
| 20:51.37 | gravity | deadcat: Yes, it's modular |
| 20:51.50 | gravity | deadcat: It's many small pieces built independantly. Not one huge thing built all at once |
| 20:51.58 | deadcat | i see. |
| 20:52.01 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: that was the feedback from apt-cache policy xserver-xorg |
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| 20:52.15 | ultraviolet16 | I guess i just didn't install it.. that was a complete brain lapse.. sorry about that. |
| 20:52.17 | moshii | dn4: It's pretty hard to find a wireless card that works under linux in the first place, let alone one that goes into master mode |
| 20:52.17 | gravity | ultraviolet16: How did you install it from backports.org? |
| 20:52.26 | ultraviolet16 | i added it to my sources list.. |
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| 20:52.39 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Did you update your apt cache after you added it? |
| 20:52.43 | ultraviolet16 | deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports |
| 20:52.50 | ultraviolet16 | yeah I did update it.. |
| 20:53.00 | ultraviolet16 | I'm guessing that I just plain out "forgot" to install it. |
| 20:53.04 | ultraviolet16 | as crazy as that sounds. |
| 20:53.14 | ultraviolet16 | oh wait.. |
| 20:53.17 | gravity | ultraviolet16: No, apt-cache should find it if it's in your cache. Something is wrong if it's missing |
| 20:53.32 | ultraviolet16 | well i just re-installed it. let's see if it works |
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| 20:54.18 | dn4 | moshii, I will research and find this hard to find wireless card that can work in master mode on a unix environment. m0n0wall |
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| 20:54.48 | gravity | ultraviolet16: http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 20:54.55 | gravity | ultraviolet16: You appear to have not followed the instructions |
| 20:55.03 | gravity | ultraviolet16: You're missing part of your sources.list |
| 20:55.04 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: after install i get this feedback.. system startup links for /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg already exist |
| 20:55.22 | quasimoto | im trying to foward a port to smtp using iptables, any reason why this wouldn't work? iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 25 --sport 26 |
| 20:55.25 | gravity | ultraviolet16: That's fine |
| 20:55.26 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: I installed my kernel from backports.. it's working fine |
| 20:55.31 | gravity | hrm |
| 20:55.40 | vcxcv | Please registre in wolrd torrent tracker http://217.9.231.6 |
| 20:55.40 | vcxcv | Please registre in wolrd torrent tracker http://217.9.231.6 |
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| 20:55.42 | asg | quasimoto: have you asked #iptables yet? |
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| 20:55.53 | asg | oh, I'm going to run out and register |
| 20:56.00 | asg | vcxcv: never do that again |
| 20:56.01 | amee2k | ldap begins to suck. hard to find a howto that uses current versions and now after i eventually found one half the tools i need for it are missing |
| 20:56.03 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: I'm going to try and run it now, i'll open this in screen in a second.. |
| 20:56.05 | ultraviolet16 | brb |
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| 20:56.56 | gpm | hello everyone. stil the same problem (sorry). i have two boxes, one is firewalled completely and one is open for port 80 (and some others). i want all requests for domain2.com (or any files/dirs under domain2) to go to the firewalled box, which is also running apache...i have set up a vhost and proxypass/proxypassreverse that ought to work, but it's just taking me to the non-firewalled box. help? |
| 20:58.10 | shadows | er |
| 20:58.17 | shadows | no idea here :< |
| 20:58.27 | asg | gpm: you might try #apache first |
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| 20:58.55 | gpm | doh |
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| 21:01.46 | SperMite | what do i need to add in fstab so i can mount a windows harddrive? |
| 21:02.10 | resiak | !ntfs |
| 21:02.10 | dpkg | from memory, ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 21:02.11 | resiak | !ntfsro |
| 21:02.11 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 21:02.14 | asg | SperMite: /msg dpkg vfatrw ; /msg dpkg ntfsrw |
| 21:02.22 | resiak | Sorry for the spam |
| 21:03.04 | resiak | I might go get some ham. |
| 21:03.06 | keyhack | when I add something to /etc/init.d/, how can I make Linux run it at boot up? |
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| 21:03.39 | asg | resiak: On the first and only day I worked at Honey Baked Hams (tm), it was my job to dig tumors out of the hams before they were spiral sliced. |
| 21:04.17 | asg | kspath: I'll throw lettuce, mark my words. |
| 21:04.27 | Red_Cloud | I am a noob. I want to install the Moodin login screen. I have downloaded the tar.gz file and unzipped it. I think that I have followed the instructions to install this program. But when I open Control Center to select the Moodin splash screen, there is no file in the folder where Moodin resides that is recognized by the Control Center. Hel |
| 21:04.34 | asg | keyhack: rcconf, update-rc.d |
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| 21:04.38 | asg | keyhack: or ln(1) |
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| 21:05.09 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: hey, i had to log on from another computer.. my monitor just flickesr when xserver tries to start |
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| 21:05.41 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Could you put the logfile in a paster? |
| 21:05.47 | keyhack | asg: update-rc.d /etc/lircd.sh? |
| 21:06.23 | ultraviolet16 | ok i will, just please remind me what log file you want to see..? |
| 21:06.31 | asg | keyhack: the syntax is very cryptic. if the EXAMPLES section of the manpage doesn't make sense, use rcconf |
| 21:06.51 | resiak | asg: Delicious. |
| 21:06.55 | megatronx | Red_Cloud: download the moodin package again and don't extract. |
| 21:06.58 | gravity | ultraviolet16: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 21:07.06 | asg | resiak: indeed |
| 21:07.08 | linux_user400354 | When my resolution is at 1280x1024, I can only choose 60hz for a refresh rate. When my resolution is much lower, then I can choose higher refresh rate such as 85 hz, but I want to use 1280x1024 and get rid of the flickering. Is there anything I can do? |
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| 21:07.31 | asg | linux_user400354: can your card or monitor support 1280x1024 at 60hz? |
| 21:07.36 | asg | linux_user400354: or higher |
| 21:07.46 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: ok be up in a minute |
| 21:07.46 | keyhack | asg: Yeah, rcconf just lists the runlevel items, but I don't see how I can add a new one using this tool |
| 21:08.08 | asg | keyhack: make sure your script is in /etc/init.d; it should show up in the menu |
| 21:08.12 | [Elvis] | how can I install all the QT libraries at once? |
| 21:08.16 | Red_Cloud | I have tried that and it will not install it. I may have done something wrong. I went to the Control Center and added the .gz but it would not install it as my login |
| 21:08.37 | linux_user400354 | asg, here are my monitor specs http://support.gateway.com/s/MONITOR/7003421/700342102.shtml |
| 21:09.01 | amee2k | anyone know a debian equivalent of rpm.pbone.net? |
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| 21:09.18 | gpm | how does one kill a zombie? |
| 21:09.20 | Monchanger | Good day all. I'm an intermediate user, trying to install Debian on a CompactFlash card, which is to be booted as an IDE device on an embedded system. I don't really have a free partition to play with (I thought of installing onto- and then dumping a partition onto the CF). A network install might be possible, as the device has ethernet, but again, booting it must be done via CF. Any suggestions on where to start? |
| 21:09.21 | megatronx | Red_Cloud: are you using gdm or kdm? |
| 21:09.25 | keyhack | asg: It's there, it's just a simple .sh file, but won't show up in the menu |
| 21:09.32 | gravity | gpm: Chainsaw |
| 21:09.50 | gpm | gravity: too much evil dead for you! |
| 21:09.53 | amee2k | gravity: lol |
| 21:09.55 | asg | keyhack: try removing the '.sh' part of the filename |
| 21:10.06 | amee2k | played too much doom |
| 21:10.15 | [Elvis] | how can I install the qt3 libraries? |
| 21:10.41 | ultraviolet16 | gravity:damn, I have the text file but I'm not sure how to get it in the pastebin.. through just the terminal.. |
| 21:10.52 | gravity | ultraviolet16: You can use the links browser |
| 21:11.06 | Red_Cloud | magetronx, I do not know |
| 21:11.11 | chealer_ | [Elvis]: install the libqt3something package you want |
| 21:11.13 | gravity | I don't know how myself though, I haven't had that much trouble with X in a long itme |
| 21:11.40 | ultraviolet16 | let's see what I can do.. |
| 21:11.55 | ultraviolet16 | i'm trying to scp over to another machine on my network.. windows.. so I'm not sure how to do that. let's see |
| 21:12.09 | megatronx | Red_Cloud: make sure you clicked on graphical interface in local under the star interface... |
| 21:12.10 | pipeline | ultraviolet16: You'll need to have sshd installed on the windows system. |
| 21:12.30 | ultraviolet16 | pipeline: I think the people that make putty make one for that too.. |
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| 21:13.05 | asg | [Elvis]: http://wiki.debian.org/?KdeDebBuild |
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| 21:13.15 | pipeline | ultraviolet16: Nope. You'll probably need to use cygwin's sshd. |
| 21:13.28 | Red_Cloud | megatronx, you have lost me in reference to star interface |
| 21:13.31 | ultraviolet16 | god, so complicated just to get a log file online! |
| 21:13.31 | pipeline | ultraviolet16: That, or Microsoft SFU + sshd, but cygwin is a lot easier to set up... |
| 21:13.33 | ultraviolet16 | bah |
| 21:13.52 | megatronx | Red_Cloud: start interface i meant |
| 21:14.05 | pipeline | ultraviolet16: Just install cygwin, make sure you check the box for "openssh server", and run ssh-host-config -y or something and you're done. |
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| 21:14.28 | jelly | ultraviolet16: cygwin's sshd works well on my w2k3 machine. |
| 21:15.05 | blondie | hmm, the sshd I installed on windows is a bit stupid |
| 21:15.09 | [Elvis] | asg when I do echo $QTDIR it returns empty how can I solve this? |
| 21:15.26 | ultraviolet16 | ok i have cygwin installed and running.. how do I install the sshd server? |
| 21:15.33 | linux_user400354 | what program can i use to detect my monitor? |
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| 21:15.41 | amee2k | n00b question: how to i 'apt-unget' a package? |
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| 21:15.48 | drac | amee2k: apt-get remove |
| 21:15.51 | ultraviolet16 | amee2k: apt-get remove |
| 21:15.52 | asg | [Elvis]: export QTDIR=/path/to/qt3 (usually /usr/share/qt3) |
| 21:15.55 | amee2k | :) |
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| 21:16.25 | asg | [Elvis]: another good place to ask is #debian-kde (they use QT a lot) |
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| 21:16.46 | Paparadiator | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.50 | blondie | NO |
| 21:17.01 | gravity | Ok, well now I understand how to use links to set up a paster |
| 21:17.03 | gravity | Pretty cool |
| 21:17.15 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: care to share? =) |
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| 21:17.27 | gravity | ultraviolet16: The trick is to highlite the form and then use the menu option to edit it in an external editor |
| 21:17.49 | gravity | ultraviolet16: You then use the external editor to read in your logfile, write it and quit and then it'll appear in the form |
| 21:17.53 | gravity | Pretty cool |
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| 21:18.37 | pipeline | ultraviolet16: You have to run cygwin's "setup.exe" again to install the ssh server if you didn't install it the first time. |
| 21:18.52 | pipeline | ultraviolet16: Assuming you have the sshd installed, you just run "ssh-host-config -y" to set it up. |
| 21:19.19 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: garbage that sounds complicated. ha. i'll try it out.. |
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| 21:19.35 | ultraviolet16 | pipeline: thing is i installed cygwin a while ago, how do I know if it's installed already? the sshd i mean |
| 21:19.55 | pipeline | ultraviolet16: If it's not installed, the ssh-host-config script won't be there. |
| 21:20.00 | asg | amee2k: you need to make your aliases shorter ;) |
| 21:20.06 | streuner | amee2k: hm, so it just write 'apt-get remove' in future... |
| 21:20.25 | streuner | nothing more.. |
| 21:20.46 | dn4 | Is thre a way to take a b signal and turn it into a a/b/g signal at an access point? |
| 21:21.04 | dn4 | well that would be pointless since the b signal controlls the access point |
| 21:21.08 | dn4 | wouldn't it? |
| 21:21.09 | asg | dn4: try #wireless |
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| 21:22.30 | amee2k | streuner: what else would i want? |
| 21:22.34 | madradrone | dn4: i think even having one b associated with an AP causes all connections to use flow control |
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| 21:23.19 | sdschulze | How do I get the development branch of aptitude? |
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| 21:23.44 | dn4 | madradrone, so for each access point there is a loss of speed? |
| 21:24.10 | madradrone | dn4: yes i believe so. even just one b link will slow it down for all connections |
| 21:24.10 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: ok i'm there at the pastebin with links. now how do open up the external editor? |
| 21:24.20 | streuner | amee2k: well, i just don't need 'apt-get remove' not many times in the past... |
| 21:24.29 | streuner | s/don't/didn't/ |
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| 21:24.52 | dn4 | madradrone, soo what type of connection needs no nodes? |
| 21:25.04 | DaGoodBoy | Do programs running as daemons (i.e. in the background and started via start-stop-daemon) run slower or at a lower priority than those run in interactive shells? I run a script at the shell and it finishes in 6 minutes vs. 27 minutes when started by a daemon. Am I missing something? |
| 21:25.15 | madradrone | dn4: you mean ad-hoc? |
| 21:25.34 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Fill out the parts of the form that you can. Use the arrow keys to highlite a form, and hit enter to edit it. When you get to the part where you paste something, instead of hitting enter, hit "m" to bring up the menu. |
| 21:25.50 | dn4 | madradrone, I don't knwo what ad-hoc is |
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| 21:25.56 | gravity | ultraviolet16: One of the various menu items is "edit in external editor". Select that one and hit enter |
| 21:26.12 | madradrone | dn4: check out the wireless-howto document |
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| 21:26.48 | dn4 | madradrone, link? |
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| 21:26.54 | madradrone | dn4: google? |
| 21:27.07 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: damn I hit 'm' but no menu comes up |
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| 21:27.30 | ultraviolet16 | ah but esc does the trick |
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| 21:27.33 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Play with it. I probably misremembered the key |
| 21:27.49 | [Elvis] | echo $QTDIR is retuning blank and qt3 is also not in $PATH, how can we solve this? |
| 21:28.23 | madradrone | dn4: one nice thing about google is that it usually weighs linux-related hits much higher :-) |
| 21:28.27 | asg | [Elvis]: export QTDIR=/path/to/qt3 (it won't be in your path since its a library) |
| 21:28.36 | asg | *it's |
| 21:28.52 | [Elvis] | that didn';t work asg |
| 21:28.54 | madradrone | dn4: OSS stuff in general. search for "cacti" and see what i mean |
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| 21:29.19 | asg | [Elvis]: then I'm at a loss. Did you ask #debian-kde |
| 21:29.20 | dn4 | madradrone, when did this start happening? |
| 21:29.28 | [Elvis] | oh wait works now asg |
| 21:29.28 | [Elvis] | :P |
| 21:29.33 | madradrone | dn4: forever |
| 21:29.53 | madradrone | dn4: you didn't know that? |
| 21:30.07 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: remember under what section the 'open in external.." was in? like file, view, link, downloads.. etc? |
| 21:30.07 | dn4 | ad-hoc gave me something on christianity |
| 21:30.27 | asg | dn4: try 'ad-hoc wireless linux' |
| 21:30.44 | madradrone | dn4: and "wireless-howto" gives? |
| 21:31.13 | dn4 | search results that I have not searched for |
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| 21:31.35 | madradrone | but yeah, obviously some phrases like "mon" won't come out on top |
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| 21:31.59 | amee2k | is it generally better to use version from the repos or current stables compiled from source (which seem to be quite often newer)? |
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| 21:32.12 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Link |
| 21:32.35 | asg | amee2k: use the debian provided packages unless you have a compelling reason to need newer versions and no backports exist. |
| 21:32.39 | madradrone | oh, actually it does come out on top |
| 21:32.44 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: garbage i don't have that option. I'm going to figure it out. i hope you're still around when I finally get it. |
| 21:32.58 | Yokalosh | i need to add 'splashimage=/boot/grub/splashimages/grub-splash-debblue.xpm.gz' to /boot/grub/menu.lst... where should it go in that file? |
| 21:33.23 | deadcat | rith there ^^ |
| 21:33.46 | Yokalosh | yeh but which section should it go under? and in any particular place? |
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| 21:33.53 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Are you sure you've highlited the pate portion? |
| 21:33.55 | deadcat | Yokalosh: top |
| 21:34.17 | deadcat | Yokalosh: i have it under default 0 |
| 21:34.23 | Yokalosh | deadcat: thnx dude |
| 21:34.27 | asg | ymmmm paté |
| 21:34.34 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: how do I highlight it? |
| 21:34.44 | Yokalosh | deadcat: does it need # before it? |
| 21:34.51 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Move the cursor. |
| 21:35.03 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: I don't have a cursor.. |
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| 21:35.06 | ultraviolet16 | haha |
| 21:35.13 | gravity | ultraviolet16: You do |
| 21:35.23 | gravity | links has one. It's not a mouse cursor, but some parts are highlited. |
| 21:35.32 | gravity | Move the damn thing with up and down arrows |
| 21:35.48 | potato_pig | Hmmm, I've seemed to have survived #apt-get dist-upgrade. My /etc/apt/sources.list has a 'deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free'. Should I be happy all is well now? |
| 21:36.00 | ultraviolet16 | the.. flashing underscore is in the paste section. |
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| 21:36.07 | potato_pig | (upgrading from woody->sarge) |
| 21:36.07 | ultraviolet16 | i don't have that link option.. |
| 21:36.12 | djp | how often do people here re-install there os's? talking about home systems rather than any workplace machines. |
| 21:36.19 | buu | djp: Every 3 days. |
| 21:36.23 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Ok. Maybe this is something new that isn't in sarge's links |
| 21:36.23 | grandma | djp i just did mine |
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| 21:36.33 | asg | djp: haven't reinstalled my gateway machine since potato |
| 21:36.34 | grandma | djp SuSE 9.2 to deiban |
| 21:36.44 | shadows | potato_pig: if it works, it works. |
| 21:36.45 | grandma | debian* |
| 21:36.48 | ultraviolet16 | i'm actually trying to start up sshd now so I can go in with another computer and copy and paste the damn thing |
| 21:36.49 | gozz | when you upgrade from 2.4 to 2.6 kernel does 2.4 becom unstable? |
| 21:36.57 | asg | gozz: erm no |
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| 21:37.15 | madradrone | djp: as infrequently as possible, i would hope, unless experimenting for some reason |
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| 21:37.41 | djp | buu, every 3 days? |
| 21:37.43 | buu | Yes. |
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| 21:38.02 | Yokalosh | deadcat: now when i boot up i just get a black screen :| i think its still booting though |
| 21:38.15 | gozz | when i choose 2.4 the video glitches and kde windows get stuck what could cause this? |
| 21:38.24 | djp | asg, :) |
| 21:38.27 | Yokalosh | deadcat: i hope it boots :/ |
| 21:38.52 | djp | buu, why the need for a reinstall every 3 days? |
| 21:38.55 | Lounis | hello, I have a big problem with my debian sid : udev requiere kernel 2.6.12, so gnome doesn't work |
| 21:39.00 | Yokalosh | aah it booted, but i saw nothing throughout the whole boot process |
| 21:39.01 | buu | Hrm. I want to do some networking configuration every time the box boots up (dhclient and so on), anyone know where I should be looking to add it/ |
| 21:39.06 | buu | djp: I get bored.. |
| 21:39.09 | Lounis | do you have the same problem? |
| 21:39.16 | asg | Lounis: install a 2.6.12 or higher kernel or remove udev |
| 21:39.48 | gozz | the only reason i need 2.4 is cause vmware wont compile the vmmon in 2.6 |
| 21:39.54 | Lounis | asg but I need a 2.6.8 for ndiswrapper |
| 21:39.58 | madradrone | buu: man interfaces |
| 21:40.31 | asg | Lounis: well, I'm running ndiswrapper on 2.6.15 in sid. |
| 21:41.05 | buu | madradrone: Hrm. Looks good.. |
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| 21:41.35 | Lounis | asg, did you compile it, I use module-assistant |
| 21:41.39 | asg | Lounis: yes |
| 21:41.40 | potato_pig | shadows: thanks, it all seems to work. |
| 21:41.45 | asg | Lounis: with m-a that is |
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| 21:42.22 | shadows | potato_pig: groovy :) |
| 21:42.34 | asg | Lounis: I haven't updated to the new ndiswrapper-source 1.8-1 yet though. |
| 21:43.38 | Lounis | asg I can install ndiswrapper for 2.6.15 with m-a? |
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| 21:43.52 | asg | Lounis: I did |
| 21:43.58 | Yokalosh | does anyone know what is wrong with my grub from what i said back up there? ^ |
| 21:44.10 | abrotman | back up where? |
| 21:44.21 | Yokalosh | i added a splash image and now when i boot i see nothing up until gdm starts |
| 21:44.30 | abrotman | framebuffer? |
| 21:44.41 | Yokalosh | ? |
| 21:45.08 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: i finally did it. |
| 21:45.11 | Red_Cloud | megatronx, maybe I am expecting too much. The splash screen is present but the login screen is the conventional KDE login screen |
| 21:45.13 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Cool |
| 21:45.14 | suthink | what are the best binary usenet search engines? |
| 21:45.20 | Yokalosh | sorry what do you mean by 'framebuffer?' |
| 21:45.23 | ultraviolet16 | it's not in a paste bin, but I installed apache on my machine and hosted it. |
| 21:45.25 | ultraviolet16 | http://69.84.109.42:8080/log/Xorg.0.log.txt |
| 21:45.35 | ultraviolet16 | let me know if you can see it |
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| 21:45.45 | potato_pig | shadows: just wondering about my answers to the 'Do you want to keep the old configuration file, or install the new one' questions.... I originally set up the server ages ago so I've really no idea what the best answers are :-) I'm sure I'll find out soon enough if there's a problem... |
| 21:45.45 | asg | suthink: you are better off asking for porn and warez on efnet, not freenode |
| 21:45.55 | Lounis | asg, how can I install ndiswrapper for 2.6.15 if I can't be connect to internet? (I need my wifi card for internet) |
| 21:46.00 | gravity | ultraviolet16: Yeah I see it. You need a bunch of xfonts-* packages that aren't installed. Install x-window-system-core |
| 21:46.01 | dn4 | efnet sstill does warez |
| 21:46.07 | dn4 | wow, what about dalnet haha |
| 21:46.17 | UdontKnow | warez is offtopic here |
| 21:46.17 | shadows | potato_pig: oh |
| 21:46.24 | asg | Lounis: well, you can use a temporary wired ethernet card |
| 21:46.38 | shadows | potato_pig: in a non-professional situation, i would overwrite the old configs with new ones and then edit them when there is a problem |
| 21:46.49 | asg | Lounis: or download it to another machine and use sneakernet |
| 21:46.51 | shadows | potato_pig: if it is a critical server, i would be much more careful |
| 21:46.53 | suthink | asg: when I'm looking to get those, I'll bear that in mind. Thanks. |
| 21:46.54 | Vince35 | hi all (o; , i'm looking for someone using the music player of musicplayer.sourceforge.net in his own web page |
| 21:47.05 | suthink | UdontKnow: agreed |
| 21:47.19 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: ok |
| 21:47.27 | Lord_Gaav | im having some problems installing Debian testing |
| 21:47.35 | Lord_Gaav | it hangs while loading sd_mod |
| 21:47.41 | Lord_Gaav | does anybody know a solution? |
| 21:47.57 | Lounis | asg true, and what about the new bcm43xx-module? |
| 21:48.08 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: you think that's the only problem? |
| 21:48.12 | Red_Cloud | megatronx, in Control Center/ System Administration/ Login Manager/ Appearance what should be the choices there? |
| 21:48.13 | gravity | ultraviolet16: I don't know. |
| 21:48.18 | gravity | ultraviolet16: That's the current one. |
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| 21:48.55 | asg | Lounis: then you are left with sneakernet if the existing kernel's bcm* interface doesn't work with your card. |
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| 21:49.24 | potato_pig | shadows: That sounds fair enough. It's definately non-critical, I think the world can cope without my web server for a while if there's a problem :) |
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| 21:49.30 | mrverbose | is there k3b and nvu for etch? |
| 21:49.41 | asg | Lounis: another option might be to use a LiveCD (knoppix, ubuntu, etc.) to boot the system and download the required debs to your system. |
| 21:49.42 | mrverbose | i only found it for sarge and sid |
| 21:50.02 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: I didn't install x-window-system.. that was my problem. i forgot to. damn |
| 21:50.05 | asg | mrverbose: /msg dpkg why is k3b not in testing ; /msg dpkg why is nvu not in testing |
| 21:50.21 | asg | abrotman: ATH0 |
| 21:50.21 | ultraviolet16 | i figured if I would install xserver-xorg it would see that as a dependency |
| 21:50.28 | Yokalosh | abrotman: what did you mean when you said 'framebuffer?' |
| 21:50.52 | lunaphyte | how can i look up info on unstable packages, if i don't follow unstable, and packages.d.o is broken? |
| 21:51.04 | asg | lunaphyte: /msg dpkg info <foo> sid |
| 21:51.08 | lunaphyte | ah |
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| 21:51.32 | mrverbose | asg: well: it says ok |
| 21:51.58 | asg | mrverbose: have you run 'apt-get update' recently |
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| 21:52.09 | lunaphyte | asg: thanks. what if i don't know the exact package name? |
| 21:52.10 | asg | !info k3b testing |
| 21:52.16 | abrotman | it's not there |
| 21:52.17 | mrverbose | asg: yes, i downgraded from sid |
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| 21:52.58 | asg | lunaphyte: well, 'apt-cache search . | grep <foo>' on your present system should give you some idea. If not, just ask here. |
| 21:53.23 | asg | mrverbose: 16:56 <dpkg> Package 'k3b' does not exist. (the bot claims that it isn't in etch right now.) |
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| 21:54.08 | mrverbose | asg: yes, indeed |
| 21:54.22 | resiak | !why is k3b not in testing |
| 21:54.22 | dpkg | k3b is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=k3b |
| 21:54.24 | resiak | ^^ |
| 21:54.26 | asg | mrverbose: well, barring any issues, it should be in testing in 2 to 10 days |
| 21:54.35 | Lounis | asg, I dont understand I thing : today in sid, gnome need udev, and udev works only with >=2.6.12 => so we must have a >=2.6.12 kernel for gnomein sid, it's not a problem? |
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| 21:54.44 | mrverbose | ok, i guess i can live with that |
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| 21:54.54 | resiak | Lounis: the gnome metapackage needs it. Only gnome-volume-manager actually _needs_ udev |
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| 21:54.59 | lunaphyte | asg: thanks |
| 21:55.03 | asg | Lounis: welcome to unstable; such things happen constantly |
| 21:55.15 | asg | Lounis: if this is unacceptable, use stable or testing |
| 21:55.35 | lightbright_ | im installing Debian to a new empty hard drive. The DVD loads the first menu, and then proceeds to say: Grub error, Error 17! Is the DVD faulty? |
| 21:56.17 | Lounis | I'm with sid for 1 year, I did not have this kind of problem before... :-D |
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| 21:57.02 | magyar | does anyone have amarok working in sid? |
| 21:57.16 | Lounis | thank you very much asg :-D |
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| 21:58.53 | shadows | lightbright_: err... as a workaround, you could temporarily use another method to get Debian installed |
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| 21:59.03 | shadows | that's not a true fix, just a workaround |
| 21:59.04 | ultraviolet16 | gravity: thanks a lot for your help, i think it's going to work now.. |
| 21:59.41 | gravity | ultraviolet16: No problem |
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| 21:59.46 | gnufan | Hehe helping someone with Ubuntu in another window - anyone here got Debian on an G5 iMac want to convince him to move to a bigger distro ;) |
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| 22:00.40 | asg | gnufan: try #debianppc |
| 22:00.51 | Red_Cloud | megatronx, just pointing Control Center to the tar.gz does not work for me. |
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| 22:02.42 | djp | should i install linux-k7 if i have an athlon 1400 processor or is it fine to stick with the default kernel? |
| 22:02.45 | megatronx | Red_Cloud: i believe you are supposed to click on install theme and search for the .tar.gz (whatever) file... |
| 22:02.49 | Red_Cloud | I want to install and use Moodin login splash on KDE. I have downloaded the tar.gz and followed the instructions to install it (I think). Whenever I point Control Center to the folder there are no files recognized by Control Center. Help? |
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| 22:03.27 | Red_Cloud | megatronx, I did so and the reply is that Control Center cannot install theme |
| 22:03.29 | asg | Red_Cloud: have you asked #debian-kde? |
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| 22:03.57 | Red_Cloud | asg, I was not aware of #debian-kde I will do so now |
| 22:03.59 | gnufan | djp: if you think it is the right kernel go for it I say.... You'll only learn more. |
| 22:04.18 | asg | djp: the worst that can happen is that it doesn't work and you boot with the default one. |
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| 22:04.40 | asg | djp: make sure, of course, to keep the default one around |
| 22:04.45 | Red_Cloud | asg, #debian-kde does not exist |
| 22:05.05 | SerajewelKS | Red_Cloud: it sure does |
| 22:05.14 | djp | asg, ok. thanks. just wondered what the difference was. i gather it is optimised for my processor... |
| 22:05.14 | asg | Red_Cloud: 17:09 [debian] -!- #debian-kde 53 FAQ: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKDE | KDE 3.4.3 in Etch |
| 22:05.15 | megatronx | Red_Cloud: sorry can't be much help...i don't use kde... |
| 22:05.39 | asg | djp: yes, that is the case. |
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| 22:06.32 | Red_Cloud | megatronx, I have tried to follow the instruction in the Moodin readme and had no luck with Control Center recognizing any Moodin files. |
| 22:06.34 | Edgardoweb | canal debian #sucretux |
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| 22:06.47 | SerajewelKS | Edgardoweb: what? |
| 22:06.52 | asg | Edgardoweb: ENOPARSE |
| 22:07.22 | SerajewelKS | Red_Cloud: ask #debian-kde |
| 22:07.32 | Edgardoweb | channel #sucretux |
| 22:07.34 | megatronx | Red_Cloud: go to #debian-kde |
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| 22:07.43 | megatronx | Red_Cloud: i don't use kde |
| 22:07.44 | gravity | Edgardoweb: Stop it |
| 22:07.45 | asg | Edgardoweb: no, we like it here. |
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| 22:08.08 | Edgardoweb | channel #sucretux |
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| 22:08.32 | kspath | by |
| 22:09.00 | kspath | +e Why do people insist on insisting? |
| 22:09.29 | cr3 | can someone recommend a console-friendly address book? I'm currently using abook which is just not flexible enough to provide information like birthday, when and where we met, etc. This can go in notes but it quickly becomes pointless to use abook and perhaps better to revert to a flat text file. |
| 22:09.36 | Red_Cloud | WOW #debian-kde now works! Just 5 minutes ago it was not there. Maybe my connection was interupted of something of that ilk |
| 22:09.58 | kspath | cr3: vi or vim ? |
| 22:09.59 | SerajewelKS | Red_Cloud: or you misspelled it? |
| 22:10.00 | asg | cr3: I've always just used 'vi ~/etc/peeps' |
| 22:10.31 | cr3 | kspath: that's what I'm starting to consider, in which case I will start looking for a naming convention so that I can successfully grep the file |
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| 22:10.46 | De_Mon | where can I find an example of 'delay modulation' or 'Miller encoding' |
| 22:10.48 | SerajewelKS | cr3: mysql + phpmyadmin |
| 22:10.51 | Red_Cloud | I clicked on the link of the post |
| 22:10.56 | SerajewelKS | cr3: and yeah i'm joking, sotra |
| 22:10.58 | buu | Hrm. Anyone know of a good torrent program that runs as a daemon, is controllable from the cli, does upload/download limiting and is remotely controllable? |
| 22:10.59 | SerajewelKS | sorta* |
| 22:10.59 | asg | De_Mon: have you googled for the same |
| 22:11.12 | SerajewelKS | buu: rtorrent maybe |
| 22:11.18 | SerajewelKS | buu: haven't used it (not in sarge) |
| 22:11.19 | De_Mon | asg yeah, closest i've gotten is a description -- and it makes no sense without an example |
| 22:11.21 | dondelelcaro | buu: rtorrent |
| 22:11.23 | cr3 | asg: have you adopted somekind of naming convention for the fields you define: phone, mobile, email, url, etc.? |
| 22:11.23 | buu | SerajewelKS: I don't see anything that involves remote controls.. |
| 22:11.37 | cr3 | asg: I might consider XML as well so that I can formalize my conventions in a DTD. |
| 22:11.48 | SerajewelKS | buu: well you can cerainly shell to the server and run it under screen |
| 22:12.01 | cr3 | SerajewelKS: for a personal contact database, I think grep would work just fine :) |
| 22:12.13 | asg | cr3: I usually use rfc822 mail message format and Perl or Python to parse the data. |
| 22:12.28 | kspath | cr3: there is also less and view for searching |
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| 22:12.32 | De_Mon | asg are you familiar with the technique? |
| 22:13.07 | buu | SerajewelKS: Not what I meant.. I wanted a way to automate it from a script. |
| 22:13.08 | cr3 | asg: interesting idea, I like it. |
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| 22:13.20 | asg | De_Mon: I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with it. |
| 22:13.21 | lightbright_ | shadows: how? I got Debian DVD only |
| 22:13.23 | buu | SerajewelKS: Really I just want azureus =/ |
| 22:13.39 | dondelelcaro | buu: like what type of automation? |
| 22:13.42 | asg | cr3: I also use the same format for a local bug database that is lighter than gnats, which uses the same format. |
| 22:13.44 | SerajewelKS | buu: bittornado does that i believe |
| 22:14.02 | buu | dondelelcaro: When to add new torrent files, when to remove them, what to do when the torrent finishes, that sort of thing |
| 22:14.03 | asg | De_Mon: wikipedia may have some relevant links also |
| 22:14.04 | SerajewelKS | buu: there are several programs you run to tell the daemon to do different things. not user-friendly, but for script automation it's perfect. |
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| 22:14.07 | treb0re | can anyone help me with sarge net-install problems? |
| 22:14.14 | buu | SerajewelKS: Hrm.. |
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| 22:14.18 | buu | I look in to it. |
| 22:14.33 | De_Mon | asg they've got examples for all the other types I've needed, but not this one :/ |
| 22:14.33 | dondelelcaro | buu: rtorrent, FE, can handle files leaving and entering a directory; if not, you can always write perl bindings to libtorrent |
| 22:14.36 | cr3 | asg: I'm ambiguous between using a single file (like mbox) versus multiple files (like maildir) for my contacts, so that if I grep for "asg", I could quickly see the people who relate to you :) |
| 22:14.36 | rambo3 | is there any wiki on xorg and nvidia driver for sarge? |
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| 22:14.49 | chealer_ | treb0re: depends on which problems and whether you describe them |
| 22:15.11 | kspath | cr3: a single file is great for 99% of all normal people. |
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| 22:15.24 | cr3 | asg: whether I would want to meet or avoid people who relate to you, that's another issue :P |
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| 22:15.54 | kspath | cr3: if you are a sales/marketing type person with thousands of casual contacts than you might want something more interesting than a single file |
| 22:16.05 | chealer_ | rambo3: if you mean a guide to setting up NVIDIA's proprietary 3D drivers under Sarge using a X.org backport, then no, but the usual guide should help you a lot anyway. why do you use X.org under sarge? |
| 22:16.11 | djp | i gahter it is not possible with a default install (basically, choosing desktop environment) to choose a specific kernel image? |
| 22:16.33 | asg | cr3: yeah, I know some rather interesting and potentially shady folk ;) |
| 22:16.33 | ordinary | Anyone here VIM users? I get this strange error from gvim after it has been running for a while: E438: u_undo: line numbers wrong. Anyone else seen this? |
| 22:16.33 | buu | dondelelcaro: Yeah, that's what I'm probably going to do (libtorrent) |
| 22:16.33 | cr3 | kspath: what made me think of multiple files is another system I have for keeping information about websites. for those websites where I have login information, I keep a file by the name of the domain. so, one file per domain, and that works very well. |
| 22:16.33 | buu | SerajewelKS: Er, bittornado seems to be windows.. |
| 22:16.48 | SerajewelKS | !info bittornado |
| 22:16.50 | dpkg | bittornado: (bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface), section net, is optional. Version: 0.3.13-1 (sid), Packaged size: 150 kB, Installed size: 844 kB |
| 22:16.52 | ordinary | I am using vim 6.3 |
| 22:16.54 | SerajewelKS | buu: yeah? |
| 22:16.59 | buu | SerajewelKS: Ick! |
| 22:17.05 | asg | ordinary: have you check with #vim? |
| 22:17.09 | rambo3 | becouse i wanted to test it and now when i try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 it just shuts down |
| 22:17.09 | SerajewelKS | buu: ick? |
| 22:17.20 | rambo3 | does nothing |
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| 22:17.25 | buu | SerajewelKS: Well, I didn't see anything about the daemons you mentioned either.. |
| 22:17.33 | ordinary | asg, no. I will try! |
| 22:17.35 | cr3 | asg: what is your pick on using rfc822 format compared to XML? |
| 22:17.50 | kspath | cr3: you also might think about a single file where each contact/thing/item has all of its associated information on one line. Most people will not have more than 50 people unless you add your whole set of extended contacts that you barely know |
| 22:18.26 | SerajewelKS | buu: well it has several programs like 'btadddownload' or something like that, so i assume there's some daemon |
| 22:18.26 | cr3 | kspath: one line is not flexible enough, I can sometimes have quite a bit of information for a single person. |
| 22:18.39 | buu | SerajewelKS: Hrm. |
| 22:18.42 | buu | SerajewelKS: I look in to it. |
| 22:18.43 | kspath | cr3: hmm, do they know that? :-) |
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| 22:19.01 | asg | cr3: the problem I have with XML is that it isn't usable with standard unix tools like grep, awk, cut. |
| 22:19.09 | kspath | cr3: some of those people may be creeped out about that. ;-) |
| 22:19.10 | cr3 | kspath: you should see what I have on you :) |
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| 22:19.31 | cr3 | asg: yeah, but I can xsltproc it into rfc822 format though |
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| 22:19.41 | foo | Bah, I want to use k3b and it's not in testing. Should I upgrade to unstable? Hmm |
| 22:19.51 | asg | cr3: sure, if you wish. I like something a little lighter personally but that's just my preference. |
| 22:19.52 | treb0re | chealer_: Sarge 3.1r1... doing a net-install... got to half way through installing the base packages and i get a "No installable kernel was found in the defined apt sources.. The current default kernel package is 'kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386' You may chose to continue but this rather strange error is probably fatal", tried to get to the wiki faq is down (No space left on device :S)... and google and the doc's aint heeding any results |
| 22:19.57 | kspath | cr3: right, well that would be about 30 seconds of boring read and when you wake up the next day you would wish you watched something lame like Beavis and Butthead |
| 22:20.11 | chealer_ | foo: no |
| 22:20.29 | pipeline | If I format a raw block device with mke2fs or pvcreate, is it safe to add a partition table later? |
| 22:20.30 | cr3 | asg: thanks for sharing your preference, I really like to hear things like that. I always find other people's experience so valuable. |
| 22:20.39 | chealer_ | foo: "upgrading" doesn't really go with "unstable" |
| 22:20.40 | asg | cr3: you're welcome |
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| 22:21.42 | foo | chealer_: haha, good point. |
| 22:21.59 | cr3 | asg: if you keep everything in one file in rfc822 format, what seperator do you use equivalent to "^From " in mbox? |
| 22:22.17 | chealer_ | treb0re: don't ask me...but are you really using netinst 3.1r1 or 3.1r1a? |
| 22:22.35 | asg | cr3: just a dummy ^From, unless I can put something useful there. It depends on the application. |
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| 22:23.03 | treb0re | chealer_, err 3.1r1 |
| 22:23.05 | cr3 | asg: interesting. since you're using a format that exists already, can you reuse existing tools or libraries? |
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| 22:24.07 | kspath | cr3: there are a lot of limits to those tools |
| 22:24.10 | asg | cr3: exactly, that's the main reason. Also, since it's a known basic plaintext format, I can quickly cull data using standard tools. It doesn't scale to large data formats but for personal use, I've found it to be personally the most efficient way. |
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| 22:25.07 | roby | How do I go about getting java applets to load in Firefox? I have some kind of java installed (got OOo), but don't seem to have the libjavaplugin* files. |
| 22:25.11 | djp | what package do i need to install in order to use a k7 specific kernel? i am running debian 3.1 sarge (stable) |
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| 22:25.15 | cr3 | kspath: yeah, but I'm still curious. I love to hear about tools that are used in ways that were never intended. |
| 22:25.17 | asg | roby: /msg dpkg firefox java |
| 22:25.27 | roby | asg: thanks |
| 22:25.40 | berto- | hi everyone. i'm trying to rebuild the package psycopg. the package is configured to build for all versions of python, but i just want to build the python-2.3 version. is there a flag to dpkg-buildpackage to specify the package to build? |
| 22:25.47 | cr3 | asg: can you give a few examples of tools and libraries that you can reuse? |
| 22:25.55 | kspath | cr3: there are a lot of interesting/odd people that hang out in #debian you will hear a lot of things like that enjoy |
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| 22:25.58 | chealer_ | djp: some kernel-image-2.something-k7 package |
| 22:26.16 | djp | chealer, thanks |
| 22:26.24 | Fish-Face | Hi there, is the second DVD of sarge supposed to be bootable? |
| 22:26.37 | asg | cr3: well, if I can't do it with shell and standard tools, I just hack something together in Python or Perl. |
| 22:26.46 | cr3 | kspath: I've noticed, that's why I converge towards here when I don't know where to ask. personally, I really like it in here, I've only met pleasant people. |
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| 22:27.46 | comsa | , |
| 22:27.47 | cr3 | asg: awk too, I guess: awk '/^FirstName:/ { print }' |
| 22:28.22 | megatronx | anyone know how to integrate windowmaker into gnome? |
| 22:28.45 | djp | chealer_, the package is in security. do i have to specify security in sources.list? |
| 22:28.58 | megatronx | can't seem to find much help in google.com/linux |
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| 22:29.41 | chealer_ | djp: if there was a DSA for it and you want the patched revision, yes |
| 22:29.45 | asg | cr3: sure |
| 22:29.51 | cr3 | asg: crap, I just thought of something, you could even use GNU bool! |
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| 22:30.29 | cr3 | asg: that's actually a little program I wrote for the GNU Project a long time ago that could work to find people that match a boolean expression, and with other operator like "near". |
| 22:30.38 | asg | cr3: ah, cool |
| 22:30.40 | epsilon | djp: you don't have security in sources.list? |
| 22:31.02 | abrotman | apt-setup should do it for you |
| 22:31.07 | kspath | cr3: is that like agrep? |
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| 22:31.16 | djp | epsilon, my mistake, sorry, yes i do. thanks |
| 22:31.23 | asg | abrotman: is apt-setup still in etch or has it been removed like in sid? |
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| 22:31.34 | kspath | cr3: do not remember such a tool as bool hmm |
| 22:31.37 | cr3 | asg: the "near" operator is actually context sensitive and understands paragraphs, which is probably what each contact would look like in your file. so, "asg near kspath" could find a contact named "asg" with "kspath" in the notes section or something. |
| 22:31.42 | kwowt | Hello. I'm a newbie in debian, and i tried to instlal web-cp control panel, now when i try to do anything i just get 'rm: cannot remove `clp': Read-only file system' messages :| |
| 22:31.47 | abrotman | asg: sytill there |
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| 22:32.06 | cr3 | kspath: bool '(foo AND bar) OR blah' [files] |
| 22:32.07 | asg | abrotman: oh, okay. I don't track etch but expect when apt-setup is removed, it will cause consternation. |
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| 22:32.23 | cr3 | kspath: it's not known but it is available in the debian packages |
| 22:32.24 | abrotman | i'm siure |
| 22:32.41 | asg | cr3: I'll check it out. I wasn't aware of it before. |
| 22:32.43 | asg | !info bool sarge |
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| 22:32.53 | Jacobo221 | hi, is there a package containing a list MAC_address<->Manufacturer? |
| 22:33.00 | cr3 | kspath: it's probably not known because it's not that great, but I just thought it would actually work in this particular case. I'm somewhat pleased with myself at this point :) |
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| 22:33.11 | zinx | Jacobo221: if there is, it will have "OUI" somewhere in the name |
| 22:33.35 | epsilon | OUI? |
| 22:33.41 | zinx | Jacobo221: or google for OUI lookup |
| 22:33.46 | kspath | cr3: I can see a major limitation is that most people just put one newline between ideas/paragraphs so it would tend to match a ton of crap. |
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| 22:34.08 | stouset | epsilon: Oui. |
| 22:34.11 | zinx | epsilon: I am not your google. |
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| 22:34.25 | dpkg | bool: (Utility for matching boolean queries in text or html files), section text, is optional. Version: 0.2.1-5 (sarge), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 200 kB |
| 22:34.26 | cr3 | kspath: yeah, the idea is not perfect :( |
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| 22:34.32 | kspath | cr3: I will look into bool very cool/interesting idea of distance was looking into that myself for various reasons |
| 22:34.36 | deby | alguém fala portuguźs? |
| 22:34.45 | epsilon | zinx: ohh plz plz plz google it for me |
| 22:34.53 | asg | !tell deby about br |
| 22:35.00 | Jacobo221 | zinx: ok, thanks. the answer is 'no' then ;) |
| 22:35.06 | deby | hello |
| 22:35.07 | cr3 | kspath: it's not very elaborate but I have made tons of research to make it as efficient as possible |
| 22:35.13 | deby | my friends |
| 22:35.22 | stouset | !tell deby about br |
| 22:35.30 | kspath | cr3: what about changing distance to number of words or bytes as options. |
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| 22:36.21 | cr3 | kspath: it supports distance in number of words. |
| 22:36.36 | kspath | cr3: delimiter for words being whitespace but perhaps options for punctuation and brackets, braces, parathesis(sp?) greaterthan and lessthan and ... |
| 22:36.51 | megatronx | anyone know how to integrate windowmaker into gnome? i've been searching like hell in google.com/linux and can't find anything...i tried wmaker --replace in the run prompt, but nothing... |
| 22:36.52 | cr3 | kspath: it also supports printing a specific number of bytes for the output, because a match might span multiple lines but you'd want the results to be on a single line |
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| 22:37.08 | kwowt | I did a fsck on my debian, how do i remount rw now? Please help :\ |
| 22:37.09 | SperMite | im getting mount: /dev/hdb is not a valid block device, this is what i put in fstab: /dev/hdb /mnt/windows ntfs noauto,users,ro 0 0 |
| 22:37.11 | cr3 | kspath: it tries its best to interpret punctuation properly as well |
| 22:37.15 | kspath | cr3: ok, I am off topic so I will read the code thanks muchly |
| 22:37.25 | FifaFrazer | I want to chmod 755 a mounted fat32 filesystem, but it doesnt seem to be possible ? |
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| 22:37.35 | asg | kwowt: mount -o remount,rw /mount |
| 22:38.05 | Jacobo221 | zinx: i found /usr/share/ethereal/manuf in package ethereal. probably not the most acccurate list, but will do 90% i guess. thanks for your help |
| 22:38.11 | stew | SperMite: you most likely want a partition on hdb like /dev/hdb1 or /dev/hdb2, "fdisk -l" might be helpful |
| 22:38.19 | stouset | FifaFrazer: Fat32 doesn't have the concept of permissions. |
| 22:38.37 | cr3 | kspath: welcome :) |
| 22:38.55 | FifaFrazer | hmm... okay |
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| 22:39.25 | grandma | anyone know where the config is to change the cursor in xorg? |
| 22:39.29 | grandma | mouse cursor |
| 22:39.44 | foo | How would I go about getting k3b on testing? Since it's not in the repository |
| 22:40.12 | asg | foo: you ask #debian-kde if it is possible to use the k3b from unstable or you wait. |
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| 22:40.36 | kspath | grandma: I used to use a huge set of oversized red ones due to having 3Head 1600x1200 24 bit but I do not remember the package |
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| 22:41.00 | epsilon | foo: take the one from sarge? |
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| 22:41.40 | dondelelcaro | grandma: apt-cache search cursor; should give you some ideas |
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| 22:42.08 | foo | asg: ah, thanks, didn't know that existed. |
| 22:42.18 | kspath | grandma: this might be it: big-cursor |
| 22:42.22 | foo | epsilon: So change sources to stable just so I could grab the sources? That's ok? I can do that. |
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| 22:43.09 | grandma | foo, mixed system |
| 22:43.12 | epsilon | foo: tell apt/dpkg to take stable one, or leech the package manually and install it |
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| 22:43.43 | grandma | foo using Pin-Priority in /etc/apt/preferences you can have a mixed system |
| 22:43.55 | djbuldog | I have i830M graphic card; kernel 2.6.15.1 (modified); latest version of Xorg >> X start OK. If (restart X || 2x switch(console,X)) { display=black_screen; } ..... How can I fix it? |
| 22:43.59 | epsilon | grandma: i won't say one stable package in testing is a mix |
| 22:44.01 | foo | grandma: Gocha. I have that bookmarked, matter-of-fact. |
| 22:44.19 | grandma | epsilon yea i know...but it's a start |
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| 22:44.37 | epsilon | ya granpas bubu |
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| 22:46.18 | cr3 | asg: out of curiosity, do you have some way to remind yourself of birthdays from your contact database? also, do you have some way of linking your contacts with scheduled events like a meeting? |
| 22:46.41 | kspath | cr3: cron ? |
| 22:46.44 | djbuldog | I have i830M graphic card; kernel 2.6.15.1 (modified); latest version of Xorg >> X start OK. If (restart X || 2x switch(console,X)) { display=black_screen; } ..... How can I fix it? Somebody heeeelp me :) |
| 22:46.48 | kspath | cr3: at? |
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| 22:48.23 | cr3 | kspath: personally, I kept birthdays outside the address book in a file readable by calendar(1) in the bsdmainutils package. |
| 22:48.54 | cr3 | kspath: as for events, I'm not sure if those should be stored in the address book as well. so, I was wondering if there was any linking between all this data. |
| 22:49.02 | epsilon | cr3: I'd write a shell script running regulary via crontab, checking a list (or database if overkilled) for matching time and output/mail the text belonging to the time |
| 22:50.21 | kspath | cr3: for those people that have something against cron there is nothing stopping you from having your own perl or python scheduling script running all the time or even two just in case |
| 22:50.27 | cr3 | epsilon: for a birthday, that's simple enough. however, there might be other events for which you would want to contact someone hence my calendar file which is separate from the address book. I'm still wondering if that makes sense, so I'm open to ideas :) |
| 22:50.34 | epsilon | like you store "<time> <text>" in a file and the script checks if now == <time> then echo "text" | mail |
| 22:50.48 | asg | cr3: I currently keep meetings and birthdays in a PAA but I've synced with calendar(1) in the past. |
| 22:51.01 | cr3 | kspath: question is not whether to cron it or not, it's whether the cron retrieves the information from a calendar file or the address book. |
| 22:51.34 | epsilon | is a check every 1 minute not enough? |
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| 22:51.48 | cr3 | asg: "synced with calendar", sync the PDAA or do you mean sync yourself with the events returned by calendar(1)? |
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| 22:52.13 | kspath | cr3: those are names you created for yourself. why must calendar and address book need to be separate? why not store the information on the time and date it is added. The limitations are the in the mind. |
| 22:53.00 | asg | cr3: no, I meant created scripts to sync info with calendar(1) to remind me. |
| 22:53.31 | djbuldog | valdyn, hi... i need you.... watch this: I have i830M graphic card; kernel 2.6.15.1 (modified); latest version of Xorg >> X start OK. If (restart X || 2x switch(console,X)) { display=black_screen; } ..... How can I fix it? Somebody heeeelp me :) |
| 22:54.16 | SperMite | why am i getting : mount: /dev/hdb is not a valid block device |
| 22:54.33 | kspath | cr3: your choices will be based on what you want/use. As an example I could store all my info in irc logs and use irssi or the like as my only/primary interface but whatever you want to do is up to you and yours. |
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| 22:54.47 | asg | SperMite: becuase /dev/hdb is generally not what you want. Try /dev/hdb1, /dev/hdb2, /etc. |
| 22:54.50 | asg | bah |
| 22:54.55 | epsilon | SperMite: partition number missing? |
| 22:54.57 | kspath | hab |
| 22:54.58 | asg | s#/etc#etc# |
| 22:55.27 | SperMite | this is what i put in my fstab, /dev/hdb /mnt/windows ntfs noauto,users,ro 0 0 |
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| 22:55.47 | asg | SperMite: then try /dev/hdb1 (if windows exists on the first partition of that drive) |
| 22:55.48 | epsilon | /dev/hdb is a drive, not a partition |
| 22:56.01 | asg | SperMite: use fdisk -l /dev/hdb (to get a listing of available ones) |
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| 22:56.46 | kspath | cr3: what if you are traveling? do you want it to sms/page/email your portable device? Will you ever travel? Do you care? Do you want/need your information when not in front of a particular interface? |
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| 22:58.18 | kspath | cr3: do you want to email your machine from remote location to query and get a reply via sms/page/email? The possiblities are not limitless but are so wide/varied that it boggles. |
| 22:58.28 | le_NEKO | hi |
| 22:58.29 | Pedro420 | nvz: Nandrew ? |
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| 22:58.46 | SperMite | asg getting : Unable to open /dev/hdb |
| 22:58.48 | le_NEKO | is there a graphical tools to manage mount point ? |
| 22:59.05 | asg | SperMite: with what line in /etc/fstab? |
| 22:59.06 | grandma | aha, i found one place (not the place i was thinking of) to change mouse cursors |
| 22:59.18 | kspath | cr3: I would say your only/best limitation is trying to keep it as simple as possible. All else is up for grabs. |
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| 22:59.28 | grandma | /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme (symlinked to cursor .theme file) |
| 22:59.45 | SperMite | asg /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows ntfs noauto,users,ro 0 0 |
| 23:00.10 | SperMite | tried this also: Unable to open /dev/hdb1 |
| 23:00.16 | asg | SperMite: is Windows installed on the second hard drive in your machine? |
| 23:00.57 | SperMite | asg yes |
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| 23:01.25 | asg | SperMite: on the first partition? what does 'fdisk -l /dev/hdb' say? |
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| 23:04.11 | inetd | deadcat: u there? |
| 23:04.18 | SperMite | asg heres my fstab btw http://pastebin.com/527995 |
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| 23:05.32 | dvm1981 | SperMite: hdb1 ?? |
| 23:05.45 | asg | SperMite: that's fine, the question is whether Windows is on the first partition of the Second IDE drive in your system |
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| 23:06.43 | dvm1981 | SperMite: Try mount hdb1 not ? |
| 23:06.45 | SperMite | asg it's the second IDE, |
| 23:06.52 | SperMite | dvm1981 yes |
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| 23:07.17 | epsilon | SperMite: run listup of all partition von hda - hdd |
| 23:07.19 | asg | SperMite: and the first partition on said drive? |
| 23:07.28 | dvm1981 | SperMite: I do not if i have been followed but, you have say the hdb, ist hdb1 not ? |
| 23:07.41 | asg | SperMite: does 'fdisk -l /dev/hdb' bear this fact out |
| 23:07.42 | epsilon | we can't orcale all night about the windows partition in your drive |
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| 23:08.38 | SperMite | it does nothing when i do : fdisk -l /dev/hdb no error no nothing. |
| 23:08.41 | rambo3 | how do i make x-window-system-core install without xserver-xorg only xfree86- becouse apt is not saying that thay depend on xorg? |
| 23:08.47 | Wyzard|TP | Does anyone here have a system with an Intel HD Audio chipset? I'm experiencing slight crackling with the sound from my ThinkPad Z60m and I'm wondering if it's a problem others have seen |
| 23:09.01 | epsilon | SperMite: run the same for hda, hdb, hdc, hdd |
| 23:09.02 | SerajewelKS | rambo3: do you have stable/testing/unstable |
| 23:09.15 | rambo3 | unstable |
| 23:09.25 | SerajewelKS | rambo3: xfree86 is not in unstable |
| 23:09.27 | gravity | rambo3: Uh... you can't |
| 23:09.38 | gravity | For exactly the reason SerajewelKS said |
| 23:09.40 | SperMite | epsilon ok i got something for hdd |
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| 23:10.09 | asg | SperMite: then your system doesn't recognize /dev/hdb as being connected to a drive. 'dmesg' should help you isolate what Debian has found in your system. |
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| 23:10.25 | Miesco | How do I make mutt not have mbox file |
| 23:10.27 | shadows | i ran unstable for a month |
| 23:10.36 | shadows | unstable is for insane people, and developers |
| 23:10.49 | shadows | no user should be running unstable |
| 23:10.57 | SerajewelKS | shadows: that about sums it up |
| 23:10.57 | SperMite | thats what i got : > http://pastebin.com/528007 |
| 23:11.00 | gravity | I ran unstable as a user for years |
| 23:11.12 | abrotman | gravity: and now you're special |
| 23:11.16 | shadows | ehh |
| 23:11.18 | abrotman | erm .. not short bus special |
| 23:11.19 | gravity | If you're willing to learn, it's a great way to do it |
| 23:11.28 | shadows | testing + picking and choosing packages from unstable is the way i go now |
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| 23:11.34 | Miesco | Can I make mbox use the ./mail dir pine uses? |
| 23:11.37 | asg | gravity: it also helps if your unstable system is minimal and not full of crufty bloatware :) |
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| 23:11.51 | gravity | asg: Perhaps, I had a lot of bloatware too |
| 23:11.54 | epsilon | SperMite: then mount hdd1 in mnt/windows |
| 23:11.54 | Wyzard|TP | Running unstable is a good way to learn a lot if you're willing to deal with occasional breakage and have the patience to learn how to fix them on your own |
| 23:11.58 | gravity | Still do actually :-) |
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| 23:12.02 | gravity | Hell, I *maintain* bloatware |
| 23:12.14 | Wyzard|TP | Running unstable is a bad idea if you want a system that Just Works and is reliable |
| 23:12.15 | asg | gravity: haha, too true. At least you are making it less bloaty |
| 23:12.18 | rambo3 | learn to fix them or let it be |
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| 23:12.35 | gravity | sorta |
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| 23:12.45 | asg | gravity: at least more maintainable |
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| 23:13.37 | SperMite | hah, well /mnt/windows worked but when i tried to get into the drive it gave me, Could not enter folder /mnt/windows |
| 23:13.52 | embrik | I want to isntall mplayer. What is the sentence to fill in to sources.list? |
| 23:14.01 | SerajewelKS | !tell embrik about marillat |
| 23:14.23 | rambo3 | deb http://www.microsoft.com/debian unstable main |
| 23:14.29 | Wyzard|TP | lol |
| 23:14.32 | epsilon | lol |
| 23:14.56 | Wyzard|TP | apt-get install windows-xp |
| 23:15.13 | epsilon | apt-get install bluescreen |
| 23:15.13 | SerajewelKS | Wyzard|TP: i'd rather cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda |
| 23:15.23 | rambo3 | apt error windows xp depends on : $$$ |
| 23:15.37 | Wyzard|TP | hehe |
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| 23:17.20 | dvm1981 | lol |
| 23:17.36 | dvm1981 | fill a bug report ? |
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| 23:18.53 | epsilon | bug report receaved and forwarded to mainter <support@microsoft.com> |
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| 23:19.09 | gravity | ugh... sdate |
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| 23:19.41 | Myon | Wyzard|TP: try sl |
| 23:19.42 | asg | Wyzard|TP: useless yes but historically funny |
| 23:19.59 | Wyzard|TP | Myon: at least that has a practical use |
| 23:20.30 | Sonny | hi guy, have somebody edited the master boot with hexedit before? |
| 23:20.36 | Myon | I should make the "epoch" in sdate configurable, I guess |
| 23:20.44 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: That's generally not a good idea |
| 23:20.48 | Miesco | Okay I want to do this: cat ~/mbox >> $MAIL |
| 23:20.51 | zinx | Sonny: what are you trying to do? |
| 23:20.59 | deadcat | inetd: thats gdeskcal, no, i only use openbox. no gnome stuff |
| 23:20.59 | Miesco | $MAIL is not set though...... |
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| 23:21.13 | Wyzard|TP | Myon: It's funny to read the description... I just don't see why anyone would actually want to install it on their system |
| 23:21.16 | fhffhqvb | !maint boa |
| 23:21.18 | dpkg | boa: TeĆ³filo Ruiz SuĆ”rez <teo@debian.org> |
| 23:21.21 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP, zinx: because my mbr is damaged |
| 23:21.25 | fhffhqvb | !moron teo |
| 23:21.25 | dpkg | teo: You are moron #28 |
| 23:21.37 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: Your partition table? Or just the bootloader? |
| 23:21.45 | asg | !rot13 fhffhqvb |
| 23:21.45 | dpkg | sussudio |
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| 23:22.00 | asg | !sing sussudio |
| 23:22.11 | fhffhqvb | boa in sarge is broken |
| 23:22.20 | zinx | Sonny: try gpart or such |
| 23:22.41 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: If your partition table is hosed, use fdisk to create a new one |
| 23:22.47 | zinx | Sonny: assuming the partition table's hosed |
| 23:22.56 | dvm1981 | fhffhqvb: Hunh ? |
| 23:23.00 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: And use a bootable CD (Debian rescue CD, Ubuntu liveCD, etc.) to reinstall your bootloader on the drie |
| 23:23.00 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: the mbr, cause Winbug XP (fixmbr), Winbug 98 (fdisk /MBR) couldn't write the mbr to correct it |
| 23:23.02 | Wyzard|TP | *drive |
| 23:23.20 | asg | gravity: a webserver |
| 23:23.20 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: Couldn't write to it? What error message did you get? |
| 23:23.22 | dvm1981 | fhffhqvb: Need to take a break ? |
| 23:23.33 | gravity | There's a bazillion of those |
| 23:23.41 | gravity | You may have heard of apache |
| 23:23.42 | Miesco | What directory does pine store email in>? |
| 23:24.12 | asg | gravity: isn't is some type of helicopter? |
| 23:24.21 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP:something like That the mbr is corrupt and they couldnt perform the operation |
| 23:24.30 | gravity | asg: I think it's a tribe of some sort |
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| 23:24.38 | Miesco | I got all my email in mbox, how do I put it back into pine |
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| 23:24.39 | snorre | Can anyone please help me to build a driver binary file from partial source code or build a driver into the kernel in Debian 3.1? |
| 23:24.42 | asg | gravity: or a video game ... wait, that was comanche |
| 23:24.52 | gravity | asg: Yeah dude, I loved that game |
| 23:24.53 | gravity | voxels! |
| 23:24.56 | asg | gravity: heh |
| 23:25.07 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: my hard disk is empty now, because I deleted all partitions with cfdisk |
| 23:25.13 | snorre | I tried to compile the driver, and I also tried to use various pre-compiled binary drivers for Red Hat and SuSE but I can't get it to work with Debian 3.1 |
| 23:25.38 | Fish-Face | Hi, I'm trying to install debian sarge from DVD, but when I boot, it won't load its modules. What appears to have happened is that the kernel is/thinks it is 2.6.12 when it should be 2.6.8, hence there is no /lib/modules/`uname -r` |
| 23:25.44 | Fish-Face | Has anyone heard of this? |
| 23:25.53 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: Run fdisk on the drive and see whether it tells you the partition table is corrupted... if so, type 'o' to create a new empty one, and then 'w' to write it to the disk |
| 23:26.19 | Wyzard|TP | snorre: What driver? |
| 23:26.25 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: ok I'm in knoppix live cd now |
| 23:26.35 | snorre | I'm rather stuck at this point and I get no help from the creators of the driver. They officially only support RedHat and SuSE, and only supply a partial source code that they claim can be recompiled to use with any Linux OS version |
| 23:27.01 | Wyzard|TP | Fish-Face: Sounds like your DVD is not an official Sarge release DVD |
| 23:27.03 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: d you mean run fdisk from knoppix or winbug? |
| 23:27.11 | valdyn | snorre: you could tell us which device you are talking about, which driver, and what 'partial code' means |
| 23:27.15 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: from your Knoppix CD |
| 23:27.17 | websdale | ?I've got an Nvidia GeForce 4 MX440 128Mb card & when I ctrl-alt-f1 the text has become coloured blobs - does this mean it's faulty or what? |
| 23:27.41 | Wyzard|TP | websdale: Unless you're using some weird framebuffer driver for your text console, possibly |
| 23:27.54 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: it says that /dev/hda doent contain a valid partition table |
| 23:27.55 | snorre | I followed the procedure that came with the partial source code, but since it didn't work with Debian 3.1 I asked them for help and this is the reply I got: "This source code is meant for every linux distribution. However due that most distributions use other tools and other procedures it is possible that the described procedure does not apply to you. In that case I can recommend you to look in your distribution manual for additional info." |
| 23:28.05 | Wyzard|TP | websdale: I've never seen that happen with any of several nVidia cards, with either the "plain text" console or vesafb |
| 23:28.23 | valdyn | !tell snorre -about smart questions |
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| 23:28.47 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: Use 'o' and 'w' |
| 23:28.52 | Fish-Face | Wyzard|TP, possible, but I don't see why it wouldn't be :/ |
| 23:28.52 | sett | does anyone know what the hell is this error http://truefoto.com/index.php?link=showfile&fileid=29114&comments=0 |
| 23:29.00 | sett | the system refuses to boot after install |
| 23:29.04 | Wyzard|TP | Fish-Face: where did you get it from? |
| 23:29.17 | websdale | Wyzard|TP: I've seen this before on win98 but never on Debian - my 64M one is fine, but the MX440 works OK on X |
| 23:29.21 | Fish-Face | A friend, who I believe succeeded in installing |
| 23:29.25 | Wyzard|TP | snorre: What is the driver you're trying to compile? |
| 23:29.31 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: these options are not avaiable |
| 23:29.44 | Fish-Face | Wyzard|TP, nonetheless, I don't know where he got it from, so there's a possibility. |
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| 23:30.43 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: Those are commands for "fdisk"... if you're running "cfdisk", it probably does the equivalent of 'o' automatically, so just tell it to write changes and quit |
| 23:30.49 | Fish-Face | And I don't know why he'd get himself a coaster, either :P |
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| 23:31.02 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: I'm using fdisk |
| 23:31.02 | inetd | openbox is pretty cool :) |
| 23:31.11 | shadows | i liked openbox when i used it |
| 23:31.20 | shadows | it's very minimal, if you need that |
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| 23:31.45 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: Type 'm' at your fdisk prompt and see what options are available... there should be one to "create a new empty DOS partition table" |
| 23:31.46 | shadows | now i am using metacity with GNOME desktop, and i have modified Metacity with some patches |
| 23:31.49 | shadows | it is okay |
| 23:32.11 | tonix | hi guys, i'm getting starting with ifenslave and channel bonding! I got 2 nics (eth0 and eth1) and i crate the bond0 virtual devices. Now, what nic i need to phisically connect to the wire??? thanks a lot |
| 23:32.24 | snorre | valdyn: It's the Promise FastTrak SX4300/SX8300 Partial Linux source code that can be downloaded from this page: http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productID=148&category=all&os=100 |
| 23:32.42 | Wyzard|TP | tonix: The point of bonding is that you connect *both* NICs to something |
| 23:32.45 | valdyn | snorre: why do you think it is partial? |
| 23:32.47 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: fdisk is a command not a program with a menu, you can use these parameters: -b -C -H -S -l -u -s and -v |
| 23:33.00 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: fdisk /dev/hda |
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| 23:33.03 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: You get a prompt |
| 23:33.43 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: now yes |
| 23:33.48 | snorre | Anyone know how to build a driver binary file from this partial source code or build a driver into the kernel in Debian 3.1? |
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| 23:34.11 | tonix | Wyzard|TP: ok, now imagine i need to connect the bond0 to myadsl modem.... i need to connect the 2 nics (eth0 and eth1) to a switch connected to my adsl modem, right? |
| 23:34.19 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: it recommends me to use w to correct the problems |
| 23:34.45 | Wyzard|TP | snorre: You need to install the kernel-headers package that correspond to your running kernel... which kernel are you currently using? |
| 23:34.46 | snorre | valdyn: please take a look at the link and the procedure found inside the pacage |
| 23:34.48 | Wyzard|TP | Sonny: do that |
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| 23:35.10 | Wyzard|TP | tonix: Does your modem have two independent network ports on it? |
| 23:35.20 | snorre | Wyzard|TP: I've tried both 2.4 and 2.6, no luck |
| 23:35.26 | tonix | Wyzard|TP: no, absolutely, indeed |
| 23:35.33 | Wyzard|TP | tonix: Then you have no use for bonding |
| 23:35.53 | snorre | please take a look at the partial source code found on the page I linked to |
| 23:36.19 | Wyzard|TP | snorre: Debian kernel packages have names like "kernel-image-2.6-686"... you want to install the corresponding kernel-headers package, such as "kernel-headers-2.6-686" |
| 23:36.30 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: ok it altered my partition table |
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| 23:36.41 | Sonny | Wyzard|TP: what about the mbr now? |
| 23:36.47 | abrotman | Wyzard: in sarge .. not in etch/sid |
| 23:36.50 | Wyzard|TP | snorre: The kernel headers are necessary to compile a module for the kernel |
| 23:36.59 | tonix | Wyzard|TP: i don't understand why, sorry! Connecting the 2 nics (that are in the sambe subnute of of the modem) to a switch connected to the modem has to work.... i think! |
| 23:37.01 | snorre | there's a procedure for how to build the driver inside the archive - please take a look |
| 23:37.05 | Wyzard|TP | abrotman: I assume he's running stable |
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| 23:37.21 | snorre | Wyzard|TP: Can you please try to build it? |
| 23:37.23 | abrotman | !assume |
| 23:37.23 | dpkg | i guess assume is the mother of all mistakes and (ASS - U - ME): makes an ass of you and makes an ass of me |
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| 23:37.52 | snorre | I just need to make sure it's possible to make it work with Debian or not |
| 23:38.14 | Wyzard|TP | tonix: The point of bonding is that a pair of NICS in one device, connected by independent sets of cables to a pair of NICs in another device, can be used as if they were a single link with double the bandwidth |
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| 23:39.08 | valdyn | snorre: that driver doesnt compile against 2.6.15 anyway |
| 23:39.43 | snorre | it says it's for both kernel 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 23:39.44 | abrotman | Wyzard|TP: i know what bonding is .. and that confused me :) |
| 23:40.35 | valdyn | snorre: which kernels did you try to build it against? |
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| 23:41.15 | snorre | first the 2.4 that came with Debian 3.1, then a 2.6 kernel |
| 23:41.15 | tonix | Wyzard|TP: thanks, so, just to well understand, i can't use bonding neither from the lan side of a firewall, right? i mean, one nic of the firewall attached to the modem and two nics of the firewall (in bonding mode) attached to the lan with a switch... Ok, thanks a lot for your time! |
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| 23:41.57 | abrotman | Next on the 6pm news .. fhffhqvb will apt-get clean .. stand by .. you don't want to miss this |
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| 23:42.17 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: i don't do apt-get clean... i use apt-move |
| 23:42.23 | valdyn | snorre: which ones exactly |
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| 23:42.31 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: you need a humor smite |
| 23:42.36 | Firestarter | I can connnect to apache web server local but not remotely any suggestions? |
| 23:42.38 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: make more movie posters! |
| 23:42.41 | valdyn | snorre: which error are you getting when compiling |
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| 23:42.47 | snorre | valdyn: 2.6.8-2-k7-smp |
| 23:42.49 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: things in sarge aren't supposed to be broken. |
| 23:42.49 | abrotman | Firestarter: firewall ? |
| 23:42.56 | thingfish | movie posters are collectible. |
| 23:43.04 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: yeah .. but |
| 23:43.06 | abrotman | !movie posters |
| 23:43.06 | dpkg | hmm... movie posters is http://gallery.donarmstrong.com/pound_debian/ |
| 23:43.07 | SJr|TecraX | Okay I have some wierd ifup issues. |
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| 23:43.11 | ke6isf | What other applications besides totem can pull a windows media stream? |
| 23:43.16 | snorre | valdyn: lots of errors, where to start? I'm no expert |
| 23:43.21 | gpm | hi all. i've installed apache2 on sid...installed and then purged a number of blogging software things. now, if i just create a file called "blog" in /var/www, and try to acess it...i get a 404 and apache says it was looking for /blog/....though i only asked for /blog ... i can paste my config, though i just did find /etc/apache2 -exec cat '{}' \;|grep -i blog with no results. if anyone has any hints i'd be grateful |
| 23:43.22 | abrotman | ke6isf: xine? :) |
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| 23:43.32 | valdyn | snorre: with the first error |
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| 23:43.49 | valdyn | snorre: but you could paste it all |
| 23:43.50 | snorre | valdyn: make fails |
| 23:43.50 | Wyzard|TP | tonix: If the LAN side of your firewall supports bonding then you can use it, but the two ports need to be connected *independently* to the two ports of another computer... typically that means connecting each one to a separate switch |
| 23:43.51 | valdyn | !paste |
| 23:43.51 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 23:44.00 | valdyn | snorre: paste it all please |
| 23:44.06 | thingfish | non! non pastare! |
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| 23:44.17 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/4191/orlypig7xd.jpg |
| 23:44.17 | thingfish | sorry |
| 23:44.20 | abrotman | !kubuntu |
| 23:44.20 | dpkg | [kubuntu] ubuntu with kde instead of gnome, or #Kubuntu |
| 23:44.24 | Firestarter | abrotman: I enabled port 80 on my router and firewall |
| 23:44.26 | tonix | Wyzard|TP: ok, thanks a lot, now i see the light.... :-) |
| 23:44.31 | abrotman | and restarted the router? |
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| 23:44.46 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: does that go with Meep? |
| 23:44.47 | kaleid_ | hi |
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| 23:44.54 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: nope. |
| 23:44.58 | abrotman | !meep |
| 23:44.59 | dpkg | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/meepcam.jpg |
| 23:45.03 | SJr|TecraX | Basically if I use ifup to bring up my adapters. One adapter eth0 which uses dhcp, will run dhclient, get an IP, and say it is bound, but when I run ifconfig. It only has a 169.254 IP address. If I try dhclient eth0 the adapter works fine and gets an IP Address. I have another adapter eth0:1 that when I try and use ifup to bring up it says bind: No such device. However if i make up a ficticous adapter it says bind: unknown device eth0:2 |
| 23:45.12 | Wyzard|TP | tonix: It *might* work to connect both ports to the same switch, and connect both ports of the other computer to the same switch too... but that depends on the low-level details of how bonding works, which I don't know |
| 23:45.14 | SJr|TecraX | If I proceed to use ifconfig up eth0:1 it works fine |
| 23:45.22 | gravity | Wow, I actually have to futz with shorewall. I haven't had to do that in ages |
| 23:45.25 | kaleid_ | abortman...today I have installed again de "nv" driver ; choosing it from de xserver configuration |
| 23:45.26 | tarzeau | stew: it's fixed again |
| 23:45.34 | abrotman | de ? |
| 23:45.42 | abrotman | is that like da ? |
| 23:46.06 | kaleid_ | now the xserver starts too fast |
| 23:46.11 | Wyzard|TP | nah... "de" is the country code for Germany, and "da" is the Russian word for "yes" :-) |
| 23:46.17 | abrotman | oh .. that's horrible .. your software is too fast |
| 23:46.21 | snorre | valdyn: sec |
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| 23:47.14 | bz0b | foo: hey foo you around? |
| 23:47.22 | kaleid_ | I have edited too the device.map and fixed the grub trouble |
| 23:47.22 | abrotman | gravity: so i was kind of curious about buying sox tickets today .. they have this virtual waiting room .. i was stuck in it last time for an hour .. now 45 minutes |
| 23:47.23 | ke6isf | kaleid_: What is "too fast"? =O.o= |
| 23:47.42 | valdyn | snorre: and i think you still did not tell me which 2.6 kernel you tried to compile this driver against |
| 23:47.50 | gravity | abrotman: Any luck? |
| 23:47.58 | stew | tarzeau: thanks |
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| 23:48.05 | kaleid_ | becas've been using de nvidia drivers and the xserver takes a long time to display k6isf |
| 23:48.17 | abrotman | gravity: nope .. it's a waiting room .. just to see if there are any tickets available |
| 23:48.19 | jjazz | abrotman: You going to get boston-ny games? |
| 23:48.20 | kaleid_ | gdm ... |
| 23:48.22 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: hey! thanks for your sm, was it funny? |
| 23:48.24 | gravity | Ouch |
| 23:48.39 | abrotman | gravity: i checked a bos/phl game .. standing room only |
| 23:48.43 | abrotman | jjazz: not on sale yet |
| 23:48.46 | tarzeau | tiCo89: indeed, very much, perfect weather, soft snow |
| 23:48.52 | tarzeau | tiCo89: nice ass |
| 23:48.54 | Wyzard|TP | valdyn: After editing the makefile in that driver to set KERNEL_SRC_DIR correctly, and uncommenting the #define of VDEBUG in cfg_linux.h, it's no longer spewing hundreds of errors |
| 23:48.56 | abrotman | jjazz: Single-game tickets for all Red Sox home games (except for the nine contests against the Yankees) are on sale now! |
| 23:48.57 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: lots of girls? :-D |
| 23:49.10 | tarzeau | tiCo89: yep, manyof them |
| 23:49.18 | jjazz | abrotman: I'm only interested in the yankee games! |
| 23:49.20 | tarzeau | tiCo89: fun if you drive down drunk, i've done like 10 pists |
| 23:49.21 | abrotman | jjazz: PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT PATRONS ARE SELECTED FROM THIS VIRTUAL WAITING ROOM ON A RANDOM BASIS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE TICKETS. |
| 23:49.26 | Wyzard|TP | valdyn: but it runs into an error because something tries to take the address of "fasttrak_driver" and no such symbol is defined |
| 23:49.30 | jjazz | abrotman: ugh |
| 23:49.39 | valdyn | Wyzard|TP: against which kernel are you trying this? |
| 23:49.42 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: we were to late yesterday, the train was gone without us :-D |
| 23:49.53 | abrotman | jjazz: it's bad .. probably better to just buy at stubhub |
| 23:49.54 | tarzeau | tiCo89: yes i heard that |
| 23:49.56 | tiCo89 | i was at home at 02.00, my mother had to play taxi *hihi* |
| 23:49.59 | tarzeau | tiCo89: and then? |
| 23:50.05 | astronut | anyone familiar with the mail checker in gkrellm? |
| 23:50.07 | tiCo89 | and today i slept until 16.30 |
| 23:50.13 | tarzeau | poor mom |
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| 23:50.17 | jjazz | abrotman: My gf made me watch fever pitch last night. Us and another couple. Two of us care about baseball. We walked out on the last 15 minutes of the movie. |
| 23:50.20 | abrotman | of course .. i could probably get tix to see them sox in philly when they come here |
| 23:50.24 | tarzeau | i was home 1:30, and woke up 6 am |
| 23:50.36 | Wyzard|TP | valdyn: 2.6.15... I know you said it doesn't compile cleanly, but you didn't say why and I don't have any other version handy so I figured I'd give it a shot anyway |
| 23:50.38 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: :-) |
| 23:50.44 | tarzeau | tiCo89: and i just got home right now ;) was out twice, after the snowboarding |
| 23:50.46 | abrotman | jjazz: it's a "cute" movie .. baseball aside . .you have to admit the part where they're dancing for tickets is pretty damn funny |
| 23:50.47 | streuner | astronut: just ask |
| 23:50.48 | odla | jjazz: yankees suck |
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| 23:50.58 | tarzeau | tiCo89: AND i've got my very own snowboard now |
| 23:51.08 | valdyn | Wyzard|TP: i see |
| 23:51.14 | jjazz | abrotman: I thought the movie was pretty awful. Not my kind of movie. But yet, the dancing was funny. |
| 23:51.27 | gravity | There are times when it's easier to not futz with the config and just reinstall. This is one of those times |
| 23:51.29 | abrotman | jjazz: cause you so know you would dance for sox/yanks tickets :) |
| 23:51.29 | tonix | Wyzard|TP: the idea to use bonding started from this page:http://www.datamanager.it/articoli.php?idricercato=11834. At the middle of the page there is something about channel bonding functionality of the MNF Firewall by mandriva. So i started up to study about bonding. The necessity to install 2 nics on every computer is not mentioned here, and mandriva firewall could be a product to use in a mixed environment (win clients, mac clients,...) |
| 23:51.34 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: have you bought one? |
| 23:51.51 | jjazz | abrotman: In a heartbeat. In my underwear, risky business style |
| 23:51.52 | abrotman | Monday Night Football firewall ? |
| 23:51.53 | tarzeau | tiCo89: yup, but i'm falling into bed now, need some rest, got two dates next week |
| 23:51.57 | Wyzard|TP | valdyn: It's in a pci_register_driver call... for 2.6.9 and earlier it registers "&napa_driver" and for 2.6.10 and later it registers "&fasttrak_driver" |
| 23:52.00 | abrotman | jjazz: that's what made it funny :) |
| 23:52.03 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: gnu9 |
| 23:52.06 | gravity | Oooh... building the r300 dri driver |
| 23:52.08 | tiCo89 | s/gnu9/gnu8 |
| 23:52.12 | gravity | That'll make at least a few people happy |
| 23:52.13 | astronut | can you have it check multiple IMAP folders? |
| 23:52.15 | kaleid_ | blue monday |
| 23:52.25 | streuner | astronut: yes |
| 23:52.28 | tonix | Wyzard|TP: is there a way to use bonding on windows client?? |
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| 23:52.41 | astronut | streuner: comma sepereated? semicolon sepereated? space sepereated? |
| 23:52.44 | Wyzard|TP | tonix: Probably, but I don't know it |
| 23:52.53 | abrotman | astronut: separated |
| 23:53.01 | valdyn | snorre: so? |
| 23:53.13 | gpm | um...what do i do on sid if /etc/apache2 gets deleted (i'm trying to get everything back to defaults) and reinstalling doesn't create apache2.conf again? |
| 23:53.21 | abrotman | !confmiss |
| 23:53.21 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 23:53.35 | valdyn | Wyzard|TP: cool, so some older kernel should work at least, i'd hope |
| 23:53.43 | streuner | astronut: nah, create each folder from the menu-point (local, remote mailbox) NEW |
| 23:53.57 | loggygreg | how can i mount a ntfs partition such taht the users can read it ? |
| 23:54.02 | astronut | streuner: meh, that's not very elegant |
| 23:54.07 | astronut | was seing if it could do it wihtout |
| 23:54.17 | tonix | Wyzard|TP: i hate these commercial functinalities and advertising things thipical of product like mandriva! I like Debian! |
| 23:54.27 | snorre | valdyn: did you succedd coming past make? |
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| 23:54.57 | astronut | streuner: wtf? new disappeared |
| 23:55.06 | valdyn | snorre: i _still_ want to know which 2.6 kernel you tried to compile this for. No this modules does not compile against 2.6.15 |
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| 23:55.23 | astronut | there it is |
| 23:55.36 | gpm | abrotman: ok. other shit that was under /etc/apache2 was deleted too (man i regret this now) .... missing things like the normal set up of /etc/apache/mods-[enabled|disabled] and stuff |
| 23:55.43 | Wyzard|TP | valdyn: I guess... I've grepped all the headers in my 2.6.15 source tree and neither "napa_driver" nor "fasttrak_driver" occurs anywhere |
| 23:55.44 | snorre | valdyn: 2.6.8 |
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| 23:55.51 | mdupont | hi all |
| 23:56.07 | Wyzard|TP | tonix: How is bonding a "commercial functionality and advertising thing" ? |
| 23:56.13 | streuner | astronut: and remote? |
| 23:56.14 | scott | ok |
| 23:56.20 | gpm | abrotman: isn't there a way i can get apt/dpkg to just totally rewrite and assume i fucked up when i rm -fr'd /etc/apache2? |
| 23:56.35 | Wyzard|TP | tonix: It's a fairly standard feature, supported by a lot of high-end routers... it's just not often used on PCs because it's generally not needed on PCs |
| 23:56.44 | astronut | streuner: i had issues clicking off..they need a copy |
| 23:56.45 | valdyn | snorre: that one seems to be implicitely supported, so paste your whole error |
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| 23:57.25 | grandma | doh...only a few hours into this install and i've already farked it up |
| 23:57.27 | snorre | 76 lines, I get disconneced if I try to paste it all |
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| 23:57.53 | valdyn | !paste |
| 23:57.53 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
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| 23:58.01 | abrotman | gpm: yeah .. your backup |
| 23:58.01 | tonix | Wyzard|TP: "commercial" is not bonding bu t the mandriva idea to use bonding on pcs!! |
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| 23:58.11 | jonatha1 | Got a question re unix permissions: I've got a directory, photos, in my home directory, that I want the wife and kids to put digital photos. I created a group, photo, and put them all in it. I changed the group on the directory to be photo. I set the sgid bit on the directory so that files created in the directory will have that group. I set the restricted deletion flag on the directory so that people can only delete their own files n |
| 23:58.13 | lamp_ | can anyone tell me how i can shut down iptable |
| 23:58.14 | abrotman | gpm: if you don't have one .. you're starting from scratch |
| 23:58.27 | abrotman | !tell root about root |
| 23:58.35 | gpm | abrotman: so...i'm screwed... |
| 23:58.43 | abrotman | gpm: at least your system boots ... |
| 23:58.45 | root | abrotman: hmpf! |
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| 23:59.07 | abrotman | heh |
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| 23:59.42 | Babbelaar | hey |
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