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| 00:00.42 | kspath | eusto: No, colour support? |
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| 00:00.54 | kspath | eusto: -bg black -fg white ? |
| 00:01.45 | kspath | eusto: aterm -bg black -fg white |
| 00:01.56 | Sonny | did somebody use the hpoj driver to install the scanner of a hp multi-function? |
| 00:01.58 | eusto | kspath, ok i'll try this one |
| 00:02.38 | ethics | Arfim ignore it it still works...the firmware is licensed etc |
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| 00:02.56 | Arfim | ethics: the problem is, one network interface works and another does not |
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| 00:03.05 | Arfim | well, both get detected |
| 00:03.08 | eusto | kspath, aterm looks very nice thanks |
| 00:03.16 | Arfim | but one works and another not |
| 00:03.18 | ethics | arfim have you ifconfiged it? |
| 00:03.23 | Arfim | yes, of course |
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| 00:04.04 | Arfim | i configure eth0 and can ping it from anywhere. after then i stop eth0, configure eth1 with the same ip, mask and etc, set up route to go through proper interface and there comes nothing |
| 00:04.06 | ethics | arfim...well in 2.6.11 they removed the driver and in 2.6.14 its back try the higher kernel see what they changed |
| 00:04.21 | xerophyte | is there anyway i can block ips from RBL ( like spamcop database ) is there anyway to pull them and block on the firewall because its givng me lots of load to my email server |
| 00:04.36 | Arfim | okay, i can build 2.611 but i've heard that there are problems with devfs |
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| 00:05.02 | Kovecses | !etch k3b |
| 00:05.07 | Arfim | kernel team has just dropped it out and replaced with udeved or something like this |
| 00:05.07 | ethics | arfim id build the highest if you can... |
| 00:05.28 | Arfim | the last is 2.6.15.3 |
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| 00:05.43 | ethics | arfim..yeah udev is the norm now...not sure how it affects people as i was udev anyways |
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| 00:06.09 | Kovecses | sid or etch? |
| 00:06.19 | Arfim | just tell me: if i build 2.6.15.3 with config file from /boot, will it work? |
| 00:06.30 | Esaj | how can I get a terminal beep (bell) when something is matched in a `tail -f` command? |
| 00:07.00 | LSorensen | Esaj: write a new version of tail that does that? :) |
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| 00:07.26 | Esaj | LSorensen: hehe, well surely the power of UNIX will let me do it using existing tools :) |
| 00:07.38 | LSorensen | Esaj: or pipe the output through sed making it replace the match with the match plus a ^G |
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| 00:07.55 | LSorensen | Esaj: that might work |
| 00:07.57 | Esaj | LSorensen: ah, that's more like it... hmm |
| 00:08.21 | akaa | i got a question: i got winme (...) can i download the debian iso (4.x gb) image ? or system 'll crash at 3.9gb downloaded ? ? |
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| 00:08.41 | threat | werd |
| 00:08.42 | resiak | !htfswk |
| 00:08.43 | dpkg | How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 00:08.52 | hatake_kakashi | akaa: if you are using fat32, there is no chance you can get all 4GB |
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| 00:09.03 | ethics | akaa yeah fat32 has file limit |
| 00:09.16 | CaT[tm] | does anyone know if strace -r returns a relative time difference in seconds or something else? |
| 00:09.16 | LSorensen | Esaj: for example this works: echo abc|sed -e 's/\(abc\)/\1\a/' |
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| 00:09.21 | Matt-H | akaa: if you've got a pretty standard NIC, and network connection on your install box, download the netinst iso (~100MB) |
| 00:09.23 | LSorensen | Esaj: matching 'abc' |
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| 00:09.34 | Matt-H | akaa: or get the cd images instead |
| 00:09.59 | akaa | ok thx mate |
| 00:10.00 | hatake_kakashi | Matt-H: lol, imagine getting all 14 :D .. nah only CD1 is required, the rest you just apt-get it |
| 00:10.00 | Esaj | LSorensen: great, thanks |
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| 00:10.16 | dusk | Selected ppd file = canonpixus860i.ppd |
| 00:10.16 | dusk | ** (gnome-cups-add:9714): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1030 |
| 00:10.21 | LSorensen | Esaj: yeah it works if you pipe tail -f through it too :) |
| 00:10.32 | Esaj | LSorensen: yep : |
| 00:10.35 | Esaj | LSorensen: :) |
| 00:10.35 | LSorensen | hmm, time to fiddle with hardware |
| 00:10.37 | LSorensen | bbl |
| 00:10.40 | dusk | trying to get my network printer to work.. but I cant even ADD it |
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| 00:11.29 | jelly-ho | dusk: have you tried using the web interface? |
| 00:11.41 | dusk | jelly-ho: no sir, what is it? |
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| 00:11.46 | Matt-H | hatake_kakashi: yeah - but if there's no net connection you'd need more than one depending on what you're installing - no net connection (or unsupported hardware) is the only reason to _not_ use netinst in this case anyway |
| 00:12.09 | jelly-ho | dusk: web interface for cups, that is. http://localhost:631/ (or whatever host) |
| 00:12.45 | hatake_kakashi | Matt-H: yes, as aformented on the website.. probably installing it with a wireless card can be a pain |
| 00:13.06 | dusk | jelly-ho: heh, cool, but whats the un/pw |
| 00:13.20 | jelly-ho | dusk: root/root's pw works for me. |
| 00:13.22 | dusk | jelly-ho: its none of my admin accts |
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| 00:13.58 | efaistos | oopps I formated the partition on my ipod and firmware too ... do u know how to recover it ? |
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| 00:14.42 | Lord_Athur | hi all |
| 00:14.43 | dusk | yea thats lame |
| 00:14.47 | Matt-H | mhall: someone doesn't like fish? |
| 00:15.09 | dusk | Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing. |
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| 00:15.44 | mhall | Matt-H: but one of the parties involved was throwing them back in the pond |
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| 00:16.06 | Raids | I have a quick hardware question for you guys :) |
| 00:16.17 | Raids | Could bad ram cause my dvd burner to burn crap discs? |
| 00:16.21 | Matt-H | mhall: they didn't say *which* pond... could have been something that eats them living in the pond they were thrown back in |
| 00:16.42 | jelly-ho | dusk: eh. I have allowed 127.0.0.1 in <Location /admin> section in cupsd.conf, maybe it's commented out for you? |
| 00:16.52 | amphi | Raids: yes |
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| 00:17.13 | beardy | Raids: Probably, but you would probably be noticing other strange things if your ram were bad. Burn at lower speed, and run memtest. |
| 00:17.30 | Raids | amphi, I just found out I had a stick of bad ram. I was having problems with corrupt downloads, Memory erros and my dvd burns were junk |
| 00:17.38 | lzsilva | hello all...anybody know any mirror that I can download samba-3.0.21b. The sarge/unstable is 3.0.21a... |
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| 00:17.51 | Raids | When you guys burn do you verify the data afterwards? |
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| 00:18.24 | mhall | Matt-H: but shouldn't it be judged by the intent, not the overall success or failure |
| 00:18.31 | zinx | Raids: didn't have to with my PX-8432TI, but with my new drive, yaeh. |
| 00:18.32 | ethics | raids i dont but thats because i cant fix it if its screwed anyways.... |
| 00:18.33 | zinx | erh, yeah |
| 00:19.01 | Raids | Cool. Thank god I didn't go out and buy a new burner :S |
| 00:19.12 | Raids | It's like 2 months old. I lost the recipt |
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| 00:19.39 | Raids | I downloaded Memtest86+. It might have just solved so many of my problems lol |
| 00:19.40 | jelly-ho | dusk: like this http://pastebin.com/544214 Probably have to restart or reload cups after applying changes. |
| 00:19.48 | Matt-H | mhall: the trout-throw-back person might have known what was lurking in the pond |
| 00:20.15 | eusto | how do i turn system bell of? |
| 00:20.21 | beardy | Raids: Well, it's packaged, so just install it. |
| 00:20.27 | beardy | !bell |
| 00:20.27 | dpkg | it has been said that bell is "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. or "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc |
| 00:20.38 | ethics | eusto permanent would be unplug it.... |
| 00:20.40 | Raids | yeah I did :) |
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| 00:20.45 | eusto | ethics, thanks |
| 00:21.17 | dusk | jelly-ho: my config says that exact thing |
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| 00:22.02 | eusto | ethics, is there a place where i can type this command for it to be loaded at startup? |
| 00:22.39 | dondelelcaro | eusto: it's a per shell thing, typically. |
| 00:22.50 | dondelelcaro | eusto: set it up in your .bashrc or your /etc/profile or wherever. |
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| 00:23.31 | eusto | dondelelcaro, got it |
| 00:23.33 | eusto | thanks |
| 00:24.04 | cyanid3 | has anyone ever set up more than one monitor before? |
| 00:24.05 | mhall | Matt-H: but then why not eat the trout yourself |
| 00:24.26 | Matt-H | mhall: because I'm odd :D |
| 00:24.31 | beardy | cyanid3: What do you think? |
| 00:24.42 | beardy | !tell cyanid3 -about ask |
| 00:24.46 | cyanid3 | beardy yeah, stupid question |
| 00:24.46 | ethics | cyanid i ran 2 using nvidia stuff |
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| 00:25.00 | cyanid3 | I'm trying to get three set up |
| 00:25.11 | cyanid3 | I have the nvidia dual head working |
| 00:25.16 | Sonny | where can I get the backend for hpoj driver of hp scanner? |
| 00:25.24 | hatake_kakashi | any of you people know how to get failsafe on X working? |
| 00:25.25 | cyanid3 | but I want to add another pci card |
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| 00:26.19 | ethics | cyanid you can do it but you may have to change the nvidia config.... |
| 00:26.19 | jelly-ho | dusk: hmm... the whole file: http://fly.srk.fer.hr/~jelly/cupsd.conf, also ... http://fly.srk.fer.hr/~jelly/cupsd-no-comments.conf |
| 00:26.43 | GutterPunk | How should I upgrade to sid? Should I first put the line testing in the sources.list. Then do dist-upgrade. Then put unstable in there, and do dist-upgrade again? |
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| 00:26.49 | dusk | hm, no permission |
| 00:26.53 | GutterPunk | Or is there another way to do this? |
| 00:27.02 | dusk | but thats so weird.. why is it giving me an IPP error.. |
| 00:27.10 | ethics | GutterPunk if your saying this you probably dont want SID |
| 00:27.24 | dusk | its FINDING my network and my printer.. I can see the drivers i installed.. but when I hit apply NOTHING HAPPENS |
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| 00:27.35 | GutterPunk | ethics: I just want the last gnome/kde desktop |
| 00:27.37 | calmar | Hi, when I have e.g. set LANG=de_DE, and when I have a file: /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/gtksee.mo then that gtksee should popup in german, isn 'it? |
| 00:27.40 | jsoft | Windows + Unix backup software, anyone? |
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| 00:27.52 | ethics | gutterpunk why do you want to go to sid?.....and yeah sources/dist-upgrade is normal |
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| 00:28.04 | GutterPunk | ethics: but would that be the way to go? |
| 00:28.05 | ethics | gutterpunk...use pinning |
| 00:28.05 | jelly-ho | dusk: try now |
| 00:28.11 | ethics | !pinning |
| 00:28.11 | dpkg | i heard apt-pinning is read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
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| 00:28.42 | ethics | gutterpunk itll only pull the bits it needs from unstable to get the specific app running |
| 00:28.52 | GutterPunk | ethics: ok, but there is no way to use the pinning for kde 3.5 and be using stable at the same time... at least I didn't think it would work |
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| 00:29.28 | ethics | gutterpunk...well move to etch and pi...sid is like broken lots... |
| 00:29.52 | GutterPunk | ethics: so I just put a line containing testing in sources.list then? |
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| 00:31.29 | dusk | jelly-ho: heh.. thx mang.. but i dont think my problem is in the config |
| 00:31.29 | GutterPunk | I'm completely new to this distribution... that's why I have to ask the lame questions... can't find answers to these on google :) |
| 00:31.29 | ethics | GutterPunk if i was you id go to etch using aptitude dist-upgrade then pin unstable then apt-get -t unstable KDE |
| 00:31.30 | ethics | GutterPunk why do you need the highest KDE....its probably broken |
| 00:31.45 | mhall | Matt-H: not what i meant, i meant, if one could either subjugate a trout by putting it into a lake where it shall be predated, or eat it oneself, i'd assume one would eat it oneslf |
| 00:31.50 | mhall | Matt-H: oneself* |
| 00:32.18 | Matt-H | mhall: depends how hungry said person is |
| 00:32.36 | Matt-H | mhall: don't forget there were three or four of them |
| 00:32.41 | jelly-ho | dusk: could be, but I have no experience with gnome-cups-add thingy to determine what went wrong |
| 00:32.42 | ethics | GutterPunk the way debian works is stable is stable and used for servers normally, etch = testing everything should work but its not 100% and sid is like where the build things to see if its good enough for testing... |
| 00:32.46 | mhall | Matt-H: yes, but the rest could be frozen |
| 00:32.58 | dusk | jelly-ho: yea.. its weird it wont let me into the web interface |
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| 00:33.20 | Matt-H | mhall: if the person has an intense dislike for trout he/she might not want them in their freezer |
| 00:33.37 | mhall | Matt-H: gift? |
| 00:33.44 | GutterPunk | ethics: so you're using testing right now? Am I supposed to remove the stable line if I only want testing applications? Or should I still leave it in there? |
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| 00:34.16 | jelly-ho | dusk: click Manage Printers, then Add. You don't need "Administrative tasks". |
| 00:34.23 | GutterPunk | all this stuff just feels a bit old |
| 00:34.31 | ethics | GutterPunk all lines should be testing only...if you add pinning which allows newer files at own risk read up on pinning its easy but pays to understand it |
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| 00:35.04 | ethics | gutterpunk if you want what most people run on a desktop...testing is the go |
| 00:35.09 | Matt-H | mhall: well I wouldn't like to be given a pile of trout as a gift... anyway, they'd have been out of the water too long to throw them back in now anyway |
| 00:35.26 | Wyzard | Testing has the least-timely security updates of the three branches, though |
| 00:35.37 | GutterPunk | ethics: thanks a lot |
| 00:35.53 | ethics | gutterpunk it will normally work fine but there could be some bugs |
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| 00:36.36 | jelly-ho | dusk: hmm... sorry, that redirects to /admin/. Oh well. I honestly don't know why does it work here. ;-) |
| 00:37.07 | GutterPunk | ethics: it's just that I've seen all these sources.list files online and they all contained all different lines of releases... stable/testing/unstable. Confusing to hear I only need the testing line now |
| 00:37.13 | jelly-ho | Wyzard: that's why testing-security was created. |
| 00:37.17 | GutterPunk | ethics: I can live with a few bugs :) |
| 00:37.26 | mr_clark | Hi guys. Where is the setting to disable the login banner which shows the version number, server name, "The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;" etc etc |
| 00:38.05 | bbrazil | mr_clark: /etc/default/rcS |
| 00:38.16 | bbrazil | mr_clark: see also, /etc/motd |
| 00:38.54 | Wyzard | jelly-ho: I know, but http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ warns: "Please note that security updates for "testing" distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, "testing" does not get security updates in a timely manner." |
| 00:38.59 | ethics | GutterPunk yeah thats what most of us do i think....Sid is not really for the user but more for the guys building i feel... |
| 00:39.04 | mr_clark | bbrazil, thanks. I've looked at just about every file except the stuff under /etc/default. |
| 00:39.05 | mr_clark | Thanks |
| 00:40.36 | jshoenberger | How do I change the address that my mail sends from? Right now it says "localhost.localdomain" |
| 00:41.04 | deadcat | jshoenberger: what mta you using? |
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| 00:41.22 | jshoenberger | Good question, whatever installed with the basic system? |
| 00:42.28 | dev_null | exim |
| 00:42.30 | jelly-ho | Wyzard: the wording kind of implies that stable gets them in a "timely manner". ;-) |
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| 00:42.47 | jshoenberger | dev_null, that's probably correct |
| 00:43.07 | dev_null | check the hostname section in exim coniguration |
| 00:43.30 | dev_null | and yes, the exim config *is* strange |
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| 00:43.53 | jshoenberger | "/etc/exim4"? |
| 00:44.14 | dev_null | the candidate won one free candy |
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| 00:44.24 | jshoenberger | ^^;; |
| 00:45.41 | jazotic | hey, what's the best gcc to use for 2.6? |
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| 00:46.16 | DragonD | Hello. i'm tring to setup a vpn and got pptpd installed. man pptpd.conf said use /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward but i don't have that. how do i install it? |
| 00:46.21 | zt1607 | anyone here use a GA302T in there box ? |
| 00:46.28 | kspath | !trn_smite dev_null |
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| 00:48.44 | jazotic | DragonD: ip_forward is to route packets through. it's iptables/netfilters FORWARD chain IIRC. not a must for vpn. anyway it should be there. is /proc there? |
| 00:49.32 | kspath | dev_null: did you try nn rn trn slrn or pan ? |
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| 00:50.56 | ethics | jazotic i think if you change versions of GCC for your kernel you will need to do all the additional drivers you did with that version also |
| 00:50.59 | dev_null | kspath: I know the other newsreaders, that's why I'm start hating thunderbird |
| 00:52.12 | jazotic | ethics: sure. I build kernels since years. 2.6 till now with 4.0.2, but wonder if 3.3 or 3.4 would be better. |
| 00:52.45 | jazotic | is it right that debian builds it's packets with 4.0? |
| 00:52.52 | ethics | dont think it matters as long as your consistant in the version....i still use 3.4 myself but thats just coz im lazy i think |
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| 00:53.17 | lo | man, theres an incredible number of people in here |
| 00:53.27 | lo | last time I was here, there was maybe 30 people |
| 00:53.29 | lo | at most |
| 00:53.30 | lo | :) |
| 00:53.37 | Matt-H | lo: only 791... |
| 00:53.39 | lo | (about 6 or 7 years ago I guess) |
| 00:53.41 | lo | heh |
| 00:53.45 | ethics | lo it would have been netsplit...always heaps here |
| 00:53.54 | jazotic | ethics: just made a 2.4 with 3.3 since 4.0.2 won't compile. goes like hell compared to 4. |
| 00:54.06 | Matt-H | lo: there's only 50 or so on the OFTC #debian though |
| 00:54.35 | lo | maybe thats what it was |
| 00:54.48 | lo | no matter |
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| 00:55.15 | lo | 3.3? |
| 00:55.22 | jazotic | lo gcc |
| 00:55.25 | lo | ohhh |
| 00:56.01 | ethics | jaz...i think i just used 3.4 because its what was stable at the time the kernel was made....newer sources should work with 4 ... |
| 00:56.40 | lo | I seem to have 3.3.5 on a 2.4.27-2 kernel |
| 00:56.46 | jazotic | ethics: oh no. again changing all liks? |
| 00:56.56 | lo | I'm dumping a 2.6 kernel in shortly though |
| 00:57.16 | jazotic | 3.3.6-10 here Etch |
| 00:57.20 | jazotic | or? |
| 00:57.28 | jazotic | let' see |
| 00:58.14 | jazotic | 3.3.6-10 sounds better than 3.4.5-1 :) |
| 00:59.33 | jazotic | s/liks/links ..using distcc here. |
| 00:59.57 | mistik1 | hey guys, anyone managed to get splashy working at boot and shutdown? |
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| 01:00.52 | jazotic | http://www.coyotegulch.com/reviews/linux_compilers/ |
| 01:01.02 | jazotic | 3.4 looks faster .. |
| 01:01.53 | ethics | mistik its called framebuffer |
| 01:02.48 | mistik1 | huh? |
| 01:03.21 | mistik1 | I know what a framebuffer is, but i'm trying to use the program called 'splashy' |
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| 01:05.06 | ethics | mistik1 oh ok...nvidia drivers? |
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| 01:05.19 | mistik1 | nope |
| 01:05.30 | DragonDav | What is the option for ip forwiding in the kernel? |
| 01:05.55 | ethics | well i think from memory i had to use a 2.6.13 kernel on mine and recompile it but i did get it working... |
| 01:06.52 | ethics | i think the frame buffer on PCI express was my issue with earlier kernels |
| 01:07.00 | lo | welp, time to try and boot my kernel :) |
| 01:07.02 | mistik1 | ethics: can you just give me a list of the splashy files in /etc/rc?.d dirs |
| 01:07.42 | ethics | mistik oh i dont have it on my system here. so no unfortunately.. |
| 01:07.49 | mistik1 | ok |
| 01:09.02 | jazotic | ciao |
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| 01:15.34 | tuv | whenever i use the file dialog, e.g. save as, save link as, save image as...etc, firefox crashes (disappears alltogether). firefox 1.5.0.1 on testing |
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| 01:16.05 | mfrisch | tuv: I can't even get that far.... |
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| 01:16.47 | tuv | mfrisch: why not? |
| 01:17.00 | jetscreamer | use mozilla! |
| 01:17.46 | mfrisch | tuv I use mozilla-browser, or konqueror. |
| 01:18.00 | mfrisch | more stable |
| 01:18.14 | tuv | i'm addicted to the search field! |
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| 01:18.44 | mfrisch | tuv that is a plugin that you can add to plain mozilla. |
| 01:19.03 | mfrisch | mycroft |
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| 01:22.48 | Lord_Athur | hi |
| 01:22.56 | mfrisch | my lord |
| 01:22.57 | tam | Feb 8 01:25:55 localhost kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode |
| 01:23.03 | eusto | where can i find /proc/<pid>/stat format? |
| 01:23.11 | tam | i just recieved the above in my log files and my computer is beeping...is that bad? |
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| 01:25.53 | kreg | what would be an equivilant in dpkg to rpm -Va <pakname> |
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| 01:26.47 | mfrisch | what does -Va do |
| 01:27.15 | kreg | it does somekind of verify on each file in the system that comes from that rpm |
| 01:27.36 | kreg | it can show you what is and is not still "virgin" in the system |
| 01:27.39 | kreg | like smb.conf |
| 01:27.52 | kreg | sure you will change it, but you can still see if it's stll untouched from when it came out of the rpm |
| 01:28.08 | kreg | you can use this to look for hacking on the system or if any bins have been replaced |
| 01:28.47 | CompWizrd | my old laptop was off so long i'm doing a dist-upgrade from unstable to stable |
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| 01:29.53 | jetscreamer | omg i thought our fearless leader was really some poser and i almost larted him :o |
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| 01:30.28 | kreg | CompWizrd, heh heh. i hope it goes well |
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| 01:30.35 | Kakashi | :D |
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| 01:32.22 | CompWizrd | i'm not sure what unstable tree it was tracking.. this was from 2004.. i suppose it's what became sarge :) |
| 01:32.42 | tuv | mfrisch: i rolled firefox back to testing's version (1.0.7) and it worked just fine. BTW, how do i install mycroft on mozilla? its homepage doesn't have "install" instructions |
| 01:33.00 | qwerty_ | What apt sources are for testing? |
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| 01:33.32 | mfrisch | tuv give me a sec |
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| 01:33.49 | dvs | !iyhtays qwerty_ |
| 01:33.49 | dpkg | qwerty_: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
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| 01:34.43 | qwerty_ | dvs wow, that was helpfull thanks. |
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| 01:35.59 | mfrisch | tuv http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html as root, click the search you want to add, f-8 will give the new listings for all. |
| 01:36.13 | dvs | qwerty_: it's your funeral |
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| 01:36.23 | dvs | !stable->testing |
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| 01:36.50 | dvs | dpkg: stable->testing |
| 01:36.51 | dpkg | Sarge too old for you already? Edit your sources.list ('editor /etc/apt/sources.list'), change all non-local mentions of 'sarge' or 'stable' to 'testing', and replace the security.debian.org line by a testing security line (ask me about testing security). Save the file, then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. Then subscribe to d-d-a (/msg dpkg d-d-a) or I will come and pour hot grits down your pants. ask me about downgrade |
| 01:36.57 | Miesco | How do I go back to the configuration for wireless |
| 01:37.10 | qwerty_ | dvs I ran for 7 months without updates, testing went stable, and my sysetm was broke all to hell when I did an update. Ive spend the last month tryign to find the apt sources, should be easy, but I cant. |
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| 01:37.43 | Miesco | Whats the package I have to reconfigure where it sets up your internet for you |
| 01:38.07 | mzuverink | ?join #ubuntu |
| 01:38.33 | mfrisch | Miesco: man interfaces |
| 01:38.42 | Miesco | mfrisch it doesn't work |
| 01:38.47 | BruceLeeRoy | nano -w /etc/resolv.conf |
| 01:39.21 | BruceLeeRoy | whats the best way to remove old un-needed kernels from the grub menu? |
| 01:39.41 | Miesco | How do I check if I have the modules for my pcmcia card loaded? |
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| 01:40.09 | mfrisch | does it work.... |
| 01:40.42 | _iH8|lp | what's with libapache2-mod-fastcgi? it's won't install through apt-get although there is a page for the package? |
| 01:40.50 | ethics | Miesco lsmod and see if you can identify it.. |
| 01:40.55 | BruceLeeRoy | lsmod |
| 01:41.09 | Miesco | ethics, I cant, dont know what it is |
| 01:41.32 | mfrisch | ethics: I think he stuck on stupid |
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| 01:41.36 | Miesco | When I do: ifup -a, eth1: Error -110 setting multicast list. |
| 01:41.40 | BruceLeeRoy | lsmod will show you what modules are loaded |
| 01:41.50 | Tchiak | i can't seem to figure out this whole netboot thing :| |
| 01:41.52 | ethics | miesco well if theres a module you dont know what it's for its probably a candidate...they may actually say PCMCIA or PCCARD in it... |
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| 01:42.12 | ethics | miesco i think the module names are somewhat named ok |
| 01:42.17 | tuv | mfrisch: i'm not trying to add an engine. mozilla doesn't ship with the field at all and i'd like to add it. i tried clicking on google's link but i still don't have the field |
| 01:42.20 | Miesco | orinoco... |
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| 01:42.47 | BruceLeeRoy | orinocco your wireless PCMCIA network card |
| 01:42.59 | Miesco | pcmcia_core |
| 01:43.15 | ethics | sounds loaded ...thats a card device |
| 01:43.20 | Miesco | Okay |
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| 01:43.28 | mfrisch | tuv: you have to add it to the main plugins, sux, then run mozilla as root then add |
| 01:43.28 | BruceLeeRoy | rub a dub grub |
| 01:43.37 | Miesco | ifup -a, eth1: Error -110 setting multicast list. |
| 01:43.39 | Miesco | I get that error |
| 01:43.44 | ethics | if you plug a card in dmesg should say something... |
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| 01:44.44 | Miesco | Okay |
| 01:44.45 | kisme | just installed kismet. it is supposed to be able to do runtime decoding of a network's WEP. does it do it automatically from start or it has to be initiated by command? |
| 01:44.57 | Miesco | I typed dmesg and I get: |
| 01:45.07 | tuv | mfrisch: that is my original question: how do i install the plugin? |
| 01:45.12 | Miesco | ifup -a, eth1: Error -110 setting multicast list. New link status: Connected (0001) |
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| 01:45.52 | BruceLeeRoy | should I just delete the old "vmlinuz-2.6....." files in /boot to get them outta the grub menu or is there a better way to do this? |
| 01:46.07 | ethics | miesco loaded the driver for the actual card? |
| 01:46.16 | Miesco | ethics: no IPv6 routers present |
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| 01:46.21 | mfrisch | tuv normally plugins are installed by clicking a .xpi file but mycroft does not have one |
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| 01:46.31 | Miesco | ethics: I used to work, but not since I had hotplug |
| 01:46.34 | Miesco | it* |
| 01:46.54 | Miesco | What does "no IPv6 routers present" mean? |
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| 01:47.17 | ethics | yeah well hotplug changes how the devices map so its possibly not auto identifying the card driver |
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| 01:47.24 | dealt | greetings |
| 01:47.24 | GutterPunk | I don't understand why during dist-upgrade to testing I get heaps of perl warnings regarding the system locale. I paid attention to set it right this time though... |
| 01:47.28 | ethics | what was the module name? |
| 01:47.30 | tuv | mfrisch: so it mycroft not available for mozilla? |
| 01:47.36 | Miesco | ethics: What should I do? |
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| 01:47.42 | kisme | BruceLeeRoy: 2 ways i can think of. 1. if you want to del the old copy for good, uninstall it. 2. keep the old copy but get it off the menu by editing menu.lst of grub. |
| 01:47.44 | tuv | mfrisch: s/is/it |
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| 01:47.52 | ethics | GutterPunk dpkg-reconfigure locale |
| 01:48.00 | tuv | mfrisch: s/it/is.... whatever |
| 01:48.05 | Miesco | ethics: But I got orinoco loaded |
| 01:48.05 | dealt | just a quick q: i ran a apt-get remove <package>*, but realizing how bad is that command i aborted using Ctrl+C |
| 01:48.19 | BruceLeeRoy | kisme: so I can just go into menu.lst and delete the old entries and it wont screw anything up |
| 01:48.21 | BruceLeeRoy | ? |
| 01:48.28 | ethics | Miesco it may not know how to deal with the spcific card.... |
| 01:48.34 | dealt | now even though i changed my command, it seems to get the prev command i entered, wat should i do? |
| 01:48.35 | BruceLeeRoy | or put them back in? |
| 01:48.38 | mfrisch | tuv: no its just different you have the same search engines..its part of mozilla |
| 01:48.43 | GutterPunk | ethics: yep... I did configure it... well, it asked about it |
| 01:49.09 | ethics | Miesco hotplug basically is a script runner..the script for orinoco is there there may not be anything for your cards and modprobe/ etc/modules may solve it |
| 01:49.33 | tuv | mfrisch: so how do i search, say wikipedia, from within mozilla? |
| 01:49.45 | Miesco | module /etc/modules not found. |
| 01:50.14 | ethics | Miesco try lspci....i think the card should be in the list there....pcmcia lists in there i think....?? |
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| 01:50.54 | marty | hello folks |
| 01:50.56 | Miesco | Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. [Ethernet Pro 100] |
| 01:51.02 | ruser_ | this channel is prbly not the right one to ask things in. but can i create/setup cvs reposotory without root user? |
| 01:51.25 | ethics | Miesco and you have ifconfiged eth1? |
| 01:51.28 | amphi | Miesco: module e100 IIRC |
| 01:51.34 | marty | i have recently installed sid on my computer, everything seems to be working except sound. are there any newbie mistakes that i am probably making? |
| 01:51.41 | mfrisch | tuv by doing whats up there ...login as root at a xterm, using sux, then run mozilla as root and add wikipedia, logout as root it should be there as normal user |
| 01:51.42 | Miesco | ethics: Well I configed interfaces |
| 01:51.57 | ruser_ | marty does sound work for root? check permissions |
| 01:51.58 | marty | or (more pointed) which are the most popular newbie mistakes? |
| 01:52.00 | ethics | lsmod look for the e100 module... |
| 01:52.03 | marty | ok |
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| 01:52.38 | Miesco | e100 32608 0 |
| 01:52.42 | ethics | Miesco if e100 is in the lsmod list then check network settings...make sure they dont clash with eth0 |
| 01:52.54 | Miesco | mii 5120 1 e100 |
| 01:53.06 | ethics | Miesco sounds like the cards there and the drivers loaded... |
| 01:53.17 | Miesco | Even it it says 0? |
| 01:54.00 | Miesco | What do you mean clash with eth0? |
| 01:54.02 | ethics | Miesco yeah i think so....try modprobe -r e100 and modprobe e100 and see what dmesg outputs |
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| 01:54.09 | amphi | Miesco: yeah, that's just a count of other modules that depend on it |
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| 01:54.26 | marty | ruser: no, i have audio permissions |
| 01:54.30 | ethics | Miesco as i different IPs... |
| 01:54.40 | marty | the symptoms are that i can't change my audio level from mute |
| 01:54.44 | Miesco | eth1: Error -100 settings mulicast list. eth1: no IPv6 routers present |
| 01:54.54 | marty | i think there is probably a package i am missing |
| 01:55.00 | ruser_ | because i had similar problem. and use alsa. try manualy specifying -ao alsa flag if that's mplayer |
| 01:55.04 | marty | but i don't know which one |
| 01:55.40 | ethics | Miesco hmm sounds like it needs ip6 loaded...unusual requirement id have thought |
| 01:56.07 | marty | i am trying to use alsa as well |
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| 01:56.27 | Miesco | WHen I did: modprobe e100, I got: e100: Intel blah, ACPI: PCI interrupt... |
| 01:56.28 | astronut | "Please don't associate accountants with corporate greed... we measure the wealth, we don't take it home with us." <<< how very true |
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| 01:56.51 | amphi | Miesco: sounds fine |
| 01:56.59 | billgates | Hello, this is Bill Gates. If possible, I would like to talk about affiliation plans with Microsoft & Debian. |
| 01:57.12 | daft | Hello, I try to get transparenty working with KDE Xorg.conf changed but I dont get the stuff inside the windows transparent only the window frames |
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| 01:57.26 | Miesco | hold on |
| 01:57.28 | calmar | I just can't change languages in applications. did all with locales ... what could be the problem? LANG is also set. :( |
| 01:57.29 | BruceLeeRoy | kisme: when I change the menu.lst file it just changes back after a couple reboots to have all the old kernels |
| 01:57.31 | marty | when i try to open the sound mixer it says to use the command "esd" at my command prompt |
| 01:57.41 | Miesco | e100: eth0: e100_probe: ... |
| 01:57.43 | Miesco | ETH0 |
| 01:57.44 | mfrisch | billgates: running out of ideas again |
| 01:57.44 | kisme | no one using kismet here? i have posted a q few lines back. |
| 01:57.47 | daft | billgates you shure your not Michael J. Smith |
| 01:57.50 | BruceLeeRoy | billgates: why would you want anything to do with an operating system that works? |
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| 01:58.02 | Miesco | Thats what it says in dmesg, eth0 e100 |
| 01:58.09 | ethics | hmm orinoco was set up as eth1? |
| 01:58.20 | ethics | i assume so as your on the internet etc |
| 01:58.23 | Arfim | Hi, I'm looking for complete list of possible kernel params (like root=, init= and etc). Who knows where to get it? |
| 01:58.49 | jetscreamer | Arfim: google knoppix cheat codes |
| 01:58.58 | jetscreamer | some/most will be inthere |
| 01:59.06 | jetscreamer | see also tldp.org |
| 01:59.07 | amphi | Arfim: kernel-parameters.txt in the Documentation directory of the kernel source tree |
| 01:59.24 | Arfim | jetscreamer and amphi: thanks a lot!!! |
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| 01:59.41 | marty | ruser |
| 01:59.49 | marty | what did you end up doing to fix your problem? |
| 01:59.50 | ethics | Miesco try dmesg|grep orinoco (spelling?) |
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| 02:00.04 | ethics | Miesco that will tell you what the orinoco is set up as |
| 02:00.14 | marty | what all sound programs and deamons and plugins and modules doy you have installed |
| 02:00.15 | marty | ? |
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| 02:00.43 | BruceLeeRoy | no one here uses grub apparently eaither |
| 02:00.44 | ruser_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.52 | tuv | mfrisch: i gave up.. there is no place in which i can choose the engine to use. the search button always searches google |
| 02:01.04 | Miesco | ethics: orinoco.c 0.13e, orinoco_lock() called with hw_unavailable |
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| 02:01.23 | marty | ok |
| 02:01.35 | amphi | BruceLeeRoy: I do, occasionally |
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| 02:02.02 | ethics | Miesco sounds like the e100 is your eth0 and the orinoco is just working on another name... |
| 02:02.13 | BruceLeeRoy | amphi: I'm trying to figure out best way to remove old kernels from the list |
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| 02:02.57 | ethics | BruceLeeRoy dpkg -r kernel name.. |
| 02:02.58 | amphi | BruceLeeRoy: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst or uninstall them if you installed them as debs |
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| 02:03.11 | kisme | yeh. |
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| 02:03.28 | BruceLeeRoy | ty ethics |
| 02:03.34 | ethics | BruceLeeRoy grub regenerates the menu.lst every kernel change ... |
| 02:03.35 | Miesco | How do do I change e100 |
| 02:03.45 | Miesco | my pcmcia card is on eth0? |
| 02:03.46 | BruceLeeRoy | amphi: I edied menu.lst but all the old kernels came back |
| 02:03.56 | ethics | miesco seems like it.... |
| 02:04.03 | Arfim | Another question: does anybody here has expirience with SuperMicro IPMI cards? |
| 02:04.15 | poonj | hey guys, I have a really weird problem. I am running a debian mythbox and I'm trying to use auto-login through gdm. However, when I use autologin, the mythbackend script in /etc/init.d won't start mythbackend. When I don't have autologin set, the script works....any idea as to whats going on?! Did I not configure autologin correctly? |
| 02:04.22 | amphi | BruceLeeRoy: how bizarre |
| 02:04.31 | ethics | Miesco thats beyond me i just accept what im given hehe |
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| 02:05.02 | mindmime | *sigh* |
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| 02:05.24 | mindmime | anyone feel like helping me via private msg with bind? |
| 02:05.34 | jelly-ho | poonj: wild guess: init script for gdm never return if autologin is on, and mythbox is scheduled to start after gdm? |
| 02:06.23 | poonj | well, the mythbackend script is S70 |
| 02:06.26 | poonj | gdm is S99 |
| 02:06.28 | Miesco | eth0 is in ifconfig, TX bytes are there, but not RX bytes |
| 02:06.38 | poonj | thats the order I have in terms of booting.. |
| 02:06.43 | jelly-ho | poonj: that _is_ strange. ;-) |
| 02:06.48 | poonj | tell me about it... |
| 02:06.52 | poonj | I really have NO idea.. |
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| 02:07.34 | kisme | BruceLeeRoy: yeh. u can del or insert entries in menu.lst. |
| 02:07.58 | poonj | its not just that particular script as wlel |
| 02:08.03 | poonj | I have another one that doesn't start up |
| 02:08.06 | poonj | its really weird |
| 02:08.21 | jelly-ho | poonj: are you sure it doesn't even start? Maybe something from gdm kills it? a badly written kill `ps | grep ...` in the gdm script? |
| 02:08.41 | poonj | well |
| 02:08.48 | poonj | this is an init script |
| 02:09.19 | poonj | so its in /etc/init.d and I'm using init 5 as startup, so I have the script linked to /etc/rc.d5/S70 |
| 02:09.39 | Tchiak | i'm having a problem using floppy disks to boot into debian for install.. the bootdisk loads up and it asks me to press enter.. when i do it says Loading linux...... then it says "Boot faild: please change disks and press a key to continue." what could be causing this? |
| 02:09.46 | poonj | and to configure autologin, I just configured the gdm.conf file |
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| 02:10.00 | starscalling | hmm |
| 02:10.05 | GutterPunk | What this about? "Install these packages without verification"? |
| 02:10.17 | starscalling | ive got a network card on one of my servers thats really throwing me for a loop: |
| 02:10.18 | kisme | BruceLeeRoy: provided u know what they are used for, of course. |
| 02:10.22 | GutterPunk | I'm trying to aptitude install gnome |
| 02:10.36 | jelly-ho | poonj: I'd remove S*gdm, boot, and see if everything starts. Then start gdm by hand and see if things break. |
| 02:10.42 | starscalling | it downloads at about 10mbit max but uploads at say 50mbit |
| 02:10.57 | starscalling | any clue if it could just be a setting somewhere in debian i missed somehow? |
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| 02:11.14 | poonj | jelly-ho, okay, I will give that a shot! |
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| 02:13.12 | Tchiak | i'm having a problem using floppy disks to boot into debian for install.. the bootdisk loads up and it asks me to press enter.. when i do it says Loading linux...... then it says "Boot faild: please change disks and press a key to continue." what could be causing this? |
| 02:13.53 | trozza | hi guys, i have a debian (stable) box that i want to upgrade to unstable, is it just a matter of updating the sources.list and running apt-get dist-uprade? any thing i need to be aware of? |
| 02:14.11 | ootput | is there a way to see if a connection to a device is hi-speed usb, without actually mounting it and performing operations on it? |
| 02:15.24 | doub_ | ootput: dmesg should tell you, on 2.6 kernels |
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| 02:15.36 | Arfim | I've built a new kernel on remote server which is accessible via ssh only and bootet it with -R kernel-name reboot=5. Now the new kernel did not boot successfully (it rebooted and booted back to default one) and I've no idea why. Is here any way to let kernel write boot log to somewhere? |
| 02:15.39 | lawrencenahum | hello gius |
| 02:16.08 | ruser_ | Arfim check kern.log? |
| 02:16.25 | Arfim | ruser: hmm... wait a sec please /me is going to check |
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| 02:16.58 | Agraj | is there a package that will let me listen to web pages that need RealAudio? |
| 02:17.44 | doub_ | Agraj: helixplayer maybe. or realplayer for linux |
| 02:18.08 | Arfim | ruser: here is nothing |
| 02:18.21 | Arfim | just the log from the default kernel which did boot |
| 02:19.45 | ruser_ | Arfim what bootloader are you using, and wha'ts the default entry is it pointing to? sorry i'm no expert in remote kernel setups. just a user myself :) |
| 02:19.55 | Arfim | I'm too :-) |
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| 02:19.58 | Arfim | I use lilo |
| 02:20.03 | Tortel | grub! |
| 02:20.04 | Tortel | :D |
| 02:20.08 | doub_ | Tchiak: your floppy disk might be damaged, or the image not fully written to it. try re-writing it on another floppy |
| 02:20.13 | ruser_ | Tortel why? |
| 02:20.18 | doub_ | !start a bootloader war |
| 02:20.18 | dpkg | msdos bootloader kicks some ass |
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| 02:20.23 | Amarande | hmm |
| 02:20.25 | Tortel | omfg |
| 02:20.30 | Amarande | does gpg automatically upload keys after you generate them? |
| 02:20.37 | Amarande | or is a key that I've never used going to be only on this PC? |
| 02:20.48 | Arfim | it's default entry is debian's default kernel. now I used lilo's parameter -R to specify one time boot option like "lilo -R my_new_kernel reboot=5"" |
| 02:20.57 | Amarande | or if I can just generate new keys later |
| 02:21.26 | ruser_ | Arfim did you rerun lilo to setup the bootsector? |
| 02:21.35 | Arfim | yes :-) |
| 02:21.45 | Arfim | otherwise lilo would fail generally :-) |
| 02:22.06 | ruser_ | Arfim just checking :) there is also boot.log that you might wanna take a look. i taking these form my head |
| 02:22.16 | Arfim | the result is that lilo booted new kernel exact for one time, kernel failed somewhere and rebooted automatically :-)_ |
| 02:22.28 | ruser_ | Arfim there is gotta be a log entry somewhere |
| 02:22.32 | Arfim | and lilo booted back |
| 02:22.48 | nprice | what are some good bittorrent clients? I'm using Ktorrent but it seems like it has some problems |
| 02:22.50 | Arfim | there are logs from successfull boots |
| 02:22.59 | Arfim | nprice: try azureus? |
| 02:23.06 | ruser_ | Arfim what about boot.log? |
| 02:23.15 | ruser_ | nprice bitcommet |
| 02:23.33 | Arfim | boot.log contains only entries related to the boot of default kernel, no the test one |
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| 02:24.05 | nprice | Arfim: azureus seems like it has issues with sid. |
| 02:24.09 | ITSMIKEEH | must go Immediately! Message me on msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or aim at ogd443 if you are interested 1 alienware area51m 5700 notebook price $450 includes shipping, case, wireless router. configuration: p4m 2.26ghz, 1gb ram 80gb hard drive, dvdrw/cdrw, built in modem, ethernet, firewire, usb2.0, 802.11b/g wirleess, 256mb nvidia geforce go 6800 pcie, 17.1" uwxga display |
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| 02:24.45 | Arfim | nprice: i use it primarily to download torrents created by other people and I'm satisfied with it. it's stable |
| 02:24.57 | nprice | ruser_: how exactly can i run bitcomet under linux? |
| 02:25.06 | nemik | i'm trying to connect a usb->serial (rs232) adaptor, but dmesg does not tell me where in /dev/ it is mounted, how can i find this out? |
| 02:25.13 | ruser_ | nprice let me check what i have installed on my machine, one sec, gotta ssh :) |
| 02:25.26 | nprice | Arfim: well i know the debian package is dead, and when i try to run my own copy it spits out a ton of errors in console |
| 02:25.31 | Arfim | nemik: did you allow kernel support for that? |
| 02:25.34 | ruser_ | nprice i meant bittornado |
| 02:25.44 | nemik | Arfim: not sure...maybe not? |
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| 02:26.03 | nprice | ah |
| 02:26.04 | nprice | hehe |
| 02:26.04 | Arfim | connect it to your computer and type "dmesg" to see last kernel messages |
| 02:26.13 | nemik | Feb 7 20:20:09 localhost kernel: [4360631.896000] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 |
| 02:26.17 | admin_ | nprice: bittornado-gui |
| 02:26.40 | Arfim | nemik: this is message from usb bus driver, hold on, i'll try to find module for that |
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| 02:26.53 | ruser_ | Arfim then i have no idea |
| 02:27.05 | nemik | Arfim: thank you |
| 02:27.23 | Arfim | ruser: thanks a lot in anyway. i'll try to find it out or ask somebody to connect display to the serv |
| 02:27.26 | dusk | you guys have any reccs for good quality audio player for linux. Im using foobar with wine.. but it skips during load |
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| 02:27.41 | Tortel | xmms |
| 02:27.45 | ruser_ | dusk xxms amarok |
| 02:27.46 | Tortel | rythmbox |
| 02:27.55 | Tortel | ^^what he said |
| 02:27.57 | ruser_ | jukebox |
| 02:28.06 | Arfim | nemik: look here: /lib/modules/---your-kernel-version---/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/ |
| 02:28.16 | nprice | jukjuk |
| 02:28.16 | ruser_ | dusk there is plenty :) |
| 02:28.23 | Arfim | nemik: here are many usb to serial modules |
| 02:28.25 | dusk | have you used foobar2K? |
| 02:28.41 | ruser_ | dusk are you mp3tag whore? :) amarok should do it |
| 02:28.45 | Arfim | try usbserial.ko |
| 02:28.46 | Tortel | what do you think coders start to make so they can listen to music before making everything else? |
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| 02:28.51 | nemik | Arfim: so then what do i do? how do i install one? will it screw up my laptop? |
| 02:28.51 | dusk | ruser_: yep |
| 02:28.55 | gravity | dusk: quodlibet rocks my socks (and hello!) |
| 02:29.08 | Arfim | nemik: it shouldn't screw anything |
| 02:29.09 | dusk | gravity: ! sup mang |
| 02:29.13 | Tortel | hmm, amarok, is that built for GTK or whatever KDE uses? |
| 02:29.13 | Arfim | install it using insmod |
| 02:29.32 | gravity | Tortel: It's built for Qt, which is what KDE uses |
| 02:29.34 | ruser_ | dusk i never personaly used the foobar2k but i'm sure there is something similar. imo amarok is good with mp3 tags. |
| 02:29.36 | GutterPunk | While installing kernel-image-2.6.15-486 it said "Please purge the hotplug package" but it's no longer there :s I tried apt-get --purge remove hotplug but it doens't appear to be installed. How do I remove the configuration files now? |
| 02:29.42 | gravity | dusk: Nada here. How've you been? |
| 02:29.56 | dusk | gravity: good, been busy with school |
| 02:29.59 | gravity | dusk: Same |
| 02:30.00 | nemik | Arfim: ok thanks, so then is insmod, thanks again! |
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| 02:30.29 | Arfim | nemik: insmod /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/usbserial.ko |
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| 02:30.56 | ric | hi |
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| 02:32.10 | jetscreamer | insmod ? |
| 02:32.24 | ruser_ | jetscreamer use modprobe |
| 02:32.24 | nemik | Arfim: ok i tried it but no change, do i need to reboot? |
| 02:32.25 | Arfim | jetscreamer: any help for insmod needed? |
| 02:32.35 | Arfim | nemik: type dmesg again |
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| 02:32.41 | jetscreamer | i just thought you'd use modprobe |
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| 02:33.02 | ruser_ | nemik check dmesg and lsmod to see if the module is loaded. and use modprobe |
| 02:33.07 | nemik | Arfim: i did but same results as before: |
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| 02:33.12 | evelyne | hello folks |
| 02:33.14 | Arfim | no new strings? |
| 02:33.20 | nemik | no just: Feb 7 20:31:56 localhost kernel: [4361338.820000] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6 |
| 02:33.29 | ruser_ | nemik is that a mouse? |
| 02:33.37 | evelyne | ppl, I can't get my kbd to accept dead keys, can anyone help? |
| 02:33.39 | Arfim | no, it's usb to serial adapter |
| 02:33.56 | ruser_ | what do you do with these? |
| 02:34.32 | nemik | ruser_ my laptop doesn't have an rs232 port and i want one on there |
| 02:34.36 | jetscreamer | evelyne: i can't remember but i 'think' i've seen deadkesy referenced in the xorg.conf reconfigureing |
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| 02:34.42 | nemik | Arfim: usbcore 104316 5 usbserial,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd |
| 02:34.43 | nemik | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.11 | evelyne | jetscreamer, ok how do I get there? |
| 02:35.28 | ruser_ | nemik but adapter itself shouldn't need any drivers. |
| 02:35.31 | jetscreamer | evelyne: remembering that i can't remember... |
| 02:35.32 | Arfim | nemik: looks like module was loaded (it did use usbcore instance) but it did not recognize your adapter |
| 02:35.33 | jetscreamer | !drxx |
| 02:35.33 | dpkg | drxx is, like, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:35.48 | evelyne | jetscreamer, :P |
| 02:35.57 | Arfim | ruser_: hmm... all devices need some form of driver |
| 02:36.14 | ruser_ | Arfim not adapters. |
| 02:36.20 | ruser_ | Arfim imo |
| 02:36.31 | lawrencenahum | i'm sorry (for my english as well) but its the best way to manage an interface like eth0 through a script using ifup/ifdown and interfaces file or better to use ifconfig ? |
| 02:36.33 | evelyne | actually it 'should' be pretty easy...ubuntu should do it by itself if I tell it,no? |
| 02:36.55 | Arfim | ruser_: usb to serial is an usb device and os needs to know how to deal with it imho |
| 02:37.00 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum are you on laptop? consider looking into laptop-net |
| 02:37.06 | amphi | lawrencenahum: ifup/down and interfaces is easier |
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| 02:37.26 | evelyne | ok, i'm off to look into it |
| 02:37.31 | evelyne | thx all bye all |
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| 02:37.46 | Arfim | ruser_ nemik: http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x356.html |
| 02:37.48 | ruser_ | Arfim usb <-> serial is os independant. take one kinds of signals and convert to others... like modem analog2digital |
| 02:38.05 | lawrencenahum | yeah but i have one little problem, that the file interfaces manage more then one interface, and my script might ovverride the other working interface |
| 02:38.09 | lawrencenahum | interfaces |
| 02:38.11 | ruser_ | Arfim maybe modem is a bad example. |
| 02:38.16 | nemik | Arfim: thanks! i'll have a look |
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| 02:38.50 | Arfim | ruser_: no no no :-). it is usb device which is not plain serial because it uses multilayer bus protocol :-) |
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| 02:39.08 | ruser_ | Arfim you dont' need any special os features to have the signal converted. but you will need drivers for the hardware on the end. imo but what do i know :) |
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| 02:39.27 | Arfim | look at the link :-) |
| 02:39.40 | ruser_ | Arfim does it talk about that? personaly all my usb are working :) |
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| 02:39.58 | Arfim | look at your lsmod output :-) |
| 02:39.59 | ruser_ | Arfim ah. okay i see now :) |
| 02:40.07 | Arfim | :-) |
| 02:40.12 | ruser_ | Arfim i'm looking at the url |
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| 02:40.37 | ericw | hello |
| 02:40.50 | nemik | Arfim: i don't have a /dev/usb though |
| 02:40.55 | lawrencenahum | amphi: If I use interfaces and ifup/ifdown then I will compromise the current working configuration for the other interfaces |
| 02:40.57 | ericw | cdebootstrap -- not working on my system. something about not able to create root... |
| 02:41.09 | ericw | is that a side effect of running it on a reiserfs partition? |
| 02:41.17 | Arfim | nemik: did you modify kernel or use some self-built? |
| 02:41.18 | ruser_ | nemik it's because you have sid and itis udev filesystem |
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| 02:41.39 | nemik | Arfim: well to be totally honest, it is running ubuntu |
| 02:41.41 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum then use ifconfig |
| 02:41.46 | gravity | ugh |
| 02:41.54 | Agraj | arg it is so sad that I can't even listen to web pages... is there not even a non-free package or anything that lets this work? |
| 02:41.57 | Arfim | nemik: i don't know ubuntu well, sorry |
| 02:42.12 | lawrencenahum | ruser_: Its great, but one more question, as far as I know when I reboot I lose all changes |
| 02:42.15 | lawrencenahum | correct ? |
| 02:42.30 | nemik | Arfim: i figured it was close enough to debian to solve this....oh well |
| 02:42.31 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum yes, unless you add them to interfaces file |
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| 02:42.38 | gravity | nemik: #ubuntu please |
| 02:42.41 | ruser_ | nemik try #ubuntu |
| 02:42.48 | SkareCrow | !shutup |
| 02:42.48 | dpkg | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 02:42.48 | pR1nC3Ss | :-o |
| 02:42.51 | Arfim | nemik: ls /dev |grep usb |
| 02:42.54 | lawrencenahum | ok I understand now |
| 02:42.55 | nemik | yes i did. they don't know.. |
| 02:43.09 | lawrencenahum | so i can change on the fly using ifconfig |
| 02:43.09 | Arfim | ubuntu tends to have usb devices in /dev |
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| 02:43.19 | nemik | Arfim: did that for a while, ls /dev | grep -i usb gives nothing |
| 02:43.26 | lawrencenahum | cool, thanks all |
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| 02:43.30 | akcom | What file contains the firewalls rules? (I would like to restrict access to port 80 on my computer to systems only on my lan, is this possible?) |
| 02:43.37 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum yes. and if it is for a laptop try laptop-net |
| 02:43.42 | nemik | Arfim: i thought all devices were in dev...., no? |
| 02:43.54 | lawrencenahum | no its not for a laptop |
| 02:44.02 | lawrencenahum | its for an embedded computer with many many ethernets |
| 02:44.02 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum ok |
| 02:44.08 | lawrencenahum | i need to change the config via web interface |
| 02:44.13 | dev_null | akcom: iptables* |
| 02:44.14 | Arfim | nemik: yes but some of device files are not constructed automatically |
| 02:44.18 | akcom | thank you |
| 02:44.19 | Arfim | or are preconstructed |
| 02:44.22 | lawrencenahum | a wrote a php page that lunches bash scripts |
| 02:44.27 | nemik | Arfim: oh ok |
| 02:44.44 | Arfim | nemik: see man mknod |
| 02:44.45 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum then make the website generate full config. rahter then partial |
| 02:44.45 | lawrencenahum | not hundred per cent secure |
| 02:45.04 | vyrus001 | how do i turn on local .htaccess suport in apache2 ? |
| 02:45.07 | lawrencenahum | yeah, i could, just saving the state in mysql db |
| 02:45.15 | SkareCrow | lawrencenahum: Nothing is ever 100% secure |
| 02:45.18 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum ugly |
| 02:45.34 | lawrencenahum | ugly ? |
| 02:45.39 | nemik | Arfim: mknod: `/dev/usb/ttyUSB0': No such file or directory when i tried those commands |
| 02:45.40 | ruser_ | overkill, using DB for this. |
| 02:45.47 | dev_null | vyrus001: is ht* stuff enabled in apache2.conf? |
| 02:45.49 | lawrencenahum | no the db has to be there anyways |
| 02:45.54 | ruser_ | nemik mkdir /dev/usb |
| 02:45.57 | ruser_ | nemik then the cmd |
| 02:46.02 | lawrencenahum | for user managment |
| 02:46.06 | vyrus001 | dev_null: what IS "ht" stuff |
| 02:46.08 | akcom | Is anyone familiar with a music database type php script (i want to say it's called kplayer, but i believe I'm wrong)? I can't remember it for the life of me |
| 02:46.22 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum well if you have the user management in it already. then why not |
| 02:46.26 | dev_null | vyrus001: .htaccess .htpasswd |
| 02:46.27 | Arfim | nemik: ls /dev | grep -i usb |
| 02:46.37 | Arfim | which output does it produce |
| 02:46.44 | vyrus001 | dev_null: wher in the conf file is the flag that does that |
| 02:46.56 | ruser_ | akcom lastfm |
| 02:47.00 | nemik | Arfim: i have the usb folder that i just created now |
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| 02:47.19 | lawrencenahum | do you thing its really ugly that the php page execute the bash script ? |
| 02:47.23 | Arfim | nemik: any other entries containing string "usb"? |
| 02:47.32 | nemik | none |
| 02:47.34 | lawrencenahum | to make the change |
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| 02:47.59 | lawrencenahum | i know there are some security problems like root can't be given to apache (can, but is not safe) |
| 02:48.06 | Arfim | nemik: it's strange. there should exist other usb things too. wait, i'll google |
| 02:48.13 | lawrencenahum | so i just added the user www to ifconfig |
| 02:48.18 | lawrencenahum | or to ifup ifdown |
| 02:48.20 | dev_null | vyrus001: never mind in default it's enabled and you obviously didn't change it |
| 02:48.24 | akcom | rusers_ no, its one you install locally |
| 02:48.32 | akcom | on your own web server |
| 02:48.33 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum well, since you can do everythign from php i wouldn't see why use shellscripts. you can use cgiwrap that exectes teh cgi scripts as the user |
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| 02:48.48 | nemik | Arfim: thank you so much for your help with this |
| 02:48.49 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum that owns them. |
| 02:49.15 | lawrencenahum | yeah but i'm not using cgi |
| 02:49.17 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum or the user www to ifconfig is fine as well i suppose :) |
| 02:49.22 | dev_null | vyrus001: just write .htpasswd and .htaccess in the dir |
| 02:49.24 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum php is cgi :) |
| 02:49.44 | lawrencenahum | well .. i though you could use php itself as a module or in cgi way |
| 02:49.45 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum well, cgiwrap deals with php that way too |
| 02:49.51 | lawrencenahum | nice |
| 02:50.08 | lawrencenahum | i just have an idea of how cgi works, never used really |
| 02:50.12 | ruser_ | lawrencenahum either way cgiwrap.unixtools.org/ |
| 02:50.20 | lawrencenahum | thanks |
| 02:50.20 | ruser_ | dah. i gotta get back to code. |
| 02:50.22 | vyrus001 | dev_null: what do you mean "write in the dir" |
| 02:50.24 | ruser_ | gah* |
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| 02:50.28 | lawrencenahum | ok, have fun then |
| 02:50.29 | vyrus001 | dev_null: u mean make those files? |
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| 02:50.51 | StarWars | hi all |
| 02:50.53 | StarWars | E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 02:50.53 | StarWars | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 02:51.14 | SkareCrow | !words |
| 02:51.14 | dpkg | i guess words is "This is such a paradoxical time right now. It is the age of information and the age of misinformation. There was a time when people thought that something printed in a newspaper must be true. It's not like that online, but it almost is. ... but then you realize that it's just words, and that anybody can say anything at all." (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0112/ferrandino.shtml) |
| 02:51.14 | pR1nC3Ss | I know 2256 words (7402 contexts, 3.28 per word), 740 lines. |
| 02:51.22 | Arfim | nemik: there is usb daemon in ubuntu according to some websites, try man usbd |
| 02:51.37 | akcom | I know how to specify a source address using iptables, but how do i specify that the action should only be performed if the source address is NOT matched? |
| 02:51.48 | nemik | Arfim: thanks a lot |
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| 02:51.49 | Arfim | I don't know what is it and what does it do but it helps somehow to use/mount usb devices |
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| 02:52.07 | nemik | arg...no man entry for usbd |
| 02:52.16 | cheal | !tell akcom about iptables |
| 02:52.35 | Guerin | hotplug can mount/automount usb devices |
| 02:52.41 | StarWars | wich file i must eddit ??? |
| 02:52.43 | StarWars | E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 02:52.45 | StarWars | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 02:53.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 809] by debhelper |
| 02:53.03 | StarWars | Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 \n \l |
| 02:53.05 | nemik | Arfim: wish it was as easy as: http://www.informit.com/guides/content.asp?g=linux&seqNum=198&rl=1 |
| 02:53.22 | nemik | Arfim: maybe i just got a bum usb adaptor, i got some cheap chinese ebay one |
| 02:53.25 | dev_null | akcom: -s ! <IP> |
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| 02:53.47 | reZo | Hello, |
| 02:53.57 | cheal | !tell StarWars about e2fsprogs loop |
| 02:54.10 | Arfim | nemik: it is possible that linux doesn't know chip used in your usb adapter |
| 02:54.18 | Arfim | what for are you going to use it |
| 02:54.24 | akcom | ah |
| 02:54.24 | akcom | ty |
| 02:54.25 | SkareCrow | !words |
| 02:54.25 | dpkg | well, words is "This is such a paradoxical time right now. It is the age of information and the age of misinformation. There was a time when people thought that something printed in a newspaper must be true. It's not like that online, but it almost is. ... but then you realize that it's just words, and that anybody can say anything at all." (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0112/ferrandino.shtml) |
| 02:54.26 | pR1nC3Ss | I know 2310 words (7620 contexts, 3.30 per word), 769 lines. |
| 02:54.53 | nemik | Arfim: yes it is possible. i wanted to make a python app to access serial and use AT commands to pull SMS's off a phone |
| 02:55.33 | akcom | dev_null: i'm assuming without the space between ! and <IP>? |
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| 02:55.55 | nemik | Arfim: i could do it on my desktop with serial, but i wanted to do this on my long train ride to school too....ahh well. maybe i'll try a different adaptor, see which ones work for sure |
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| 02:56.15 | Arfim | nemik: my expirience with serial port controllers for usb bus shows that many devices doesn't really work with cheap adapters because it doesn't support all thngs required by most devices |
| 02:56.38 | nemik | Arfim: i'm sure it could send up simple AT commands though |
| 02:56.43 | airness_ | hello, anyone used the open source ati driver here? (any kind of feedback) |
| 02:56.54 | gravity | airness_: What's your question? |
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| 02:57.10 | airness_ | Not the 3d acceleration, the xorg support mostly |
| 02:57.34 | Arfim | nemik: may be. I had a customer who wished to connect some special hardware and it did now worked until he purchased expensive usb adapter guaranteed to support near everything |
| 02:58.29 | *** part/#debian digus (n=digus@group.llcpa.com) |
| 02:58.31 | nemik | Arfim: i see it perfectly in Device Manager: USB-UART controller |
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| 02:58.39 | dvs | !nickometer [a]ltoid |
| 02:58.41 | dpkg | '[a]ltoid' is 10.000% lame, dvs |
| 02:59.02 | nprice | !nickometer nprice |
| 02:59.03 | dpkg | 'nprice' is 0.000% lame, nprice |
| 02:59.08 | nprice | i win |
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| 02:59.48 | SkareCrow | !words |
| 02:59.48 | dpkg | it has been said that words is "This is such a paradoxical time right now. It is the age of information and the age of misinformation. There was a time when people thought that something printed in a newspaper must be true. It's not like that online, but it almost is. ... but then you realize that it's just words, and that anybody can say anything at all." (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0112/ferrandino.shtml) |
| 02:59.48 | pR1nC3Ss | I know 2366 words (7832 contexts, 3.31 per word), 797 lines. |
| 03:00.16 | strider | !moo |
| 03:00.16 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 03:00.16 | SkareCrow | !wakeup |
| 03:00.17 | pR1nC3Ss | Whoohoo! |
| 03:00.23 | SkareCrow | !replyrate 20 |
| 03:00.23 | pR1nC3Ss | Now replying to 20% of messages. |
| 03:00.25 | Tortel | !caffiene |
| 03:00.25 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, caffiene is the essence of all life or a potato |
| 03:00.26 | pR1nC3Ss | caffiene |
| 03:00.26 | pR1nC3Ss | more interesting than any other usb things up requires a potato |
| 03:00.29 | SkareCrow | !quit |
| 03:00.29 | dpkg | try /quit |
| 03:00.51 | nprice | how can i configure GTK fonts and such within KDE? |
| 03:00.59 | nprice | to enlarge the fonts |
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| 03:01.31 | *** join/#debian pR1nC3Ss (n=pR1nC3Ss@66-189-180-71.dhcp.wnch.wa.charter.com) |
| 03:01.31 | pR1nC3Ss | pr1nc3ss |
| 03:01.33 | SkareCrow | !replyrate 10 |
| 03:01.33 | pR1nC3Ss | Now replying to 10% of messages. |
| 03:01.41 | strider | nprice: either get the gtk qt engine or add a .gtkrc-2.0 file in ~ |
| 03:02.17 | *** join/#debian LillDude_10 (i=43624482@daphmb01dc1-213-54.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 03:02.56 | LillDude_10 | does any one know were kmail delated stuff endsup? |
| 03:03.07 | Tortel | !hello |
| 03:03.08 | dpkg | Hi, tortel! |
| 03:03.46 | karsten | LillDude_10: Check in /dev/null. |
| 03:03.56 | LillDude_10 | that means gone for good? |
| 03:04.03 | karsten | LillDude_10: I've got all *sorts* of stuff that ends up there. |
| 03:04.12 | *** join/#debian rvca_ (n=rvca@201.137.127.144) |
| 03:04.16 | LillDude_10 | that is no were? |
| 03:04.18 | karsten | LillDude_10: There may be a 'deleted' or 'trash' folder. Check that. |
| 03:04.19 | pR1nC3Ss | computer science is often the artistic self, a 'deleted' or 'trash' folder |
| 03:04.35 | LillDude_10 | cant find trash folder haveing server stuff its emty |
| 03:04.43 | nprice | !replyrate 0 |
| 03:05.04 | karsten | SkareCrow: WTF are you doing? |
| 03:05.24 | SkareCrow | teaching an AI bot |
| 03:05.34 | Phated | Take it elsewhere, please. |
| 03:05.40 | nprice | any reason why you have it spamming #debian? |
| 03:05.51 | nprice | it's teaching me hate :) |
| 03:05.59 | SkareCrow | <pR1nC3Ss> computer science is often the artistic self, a 'deleted' or 'trash' folder |
| 03:06.01 | Phated | Join a random #ohmygodmybotmybot channel and teach it there. |
| 03:06.01 | pR1nC3Ss | join a random #ohmygodmybotmybot channel and teach it to work as expected |
| 03:06.02 | SkareCrow | one line isnt spamming? |
| 03:06.09 | SkareCrow | !shutup |
| 03:06.10 | dpkg | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 03:06.10 | pR1nC3Ss | I'll be quiet :-( |
| 03:06.15 | Phated | Oh, look, more. |
| 03:06.17 | *** join/#debian doub (n=bed@d213-103-81-13.cust.tele2.fr) |
| 03:06.27 | gravity | wtf |
| 03:06.29 | karsten | SkareCrow: Lose it. |
| 03:06.40 | *** join/#debian ananda (n=ananda@200.164.92.242) |
| 03:06.45 | gravity | SkareCrow: Take the bot elsewhere please. It's annoying. |
| 03:06.49 | karsten | SkareCrow: Among other problems, you've duped dpkg's signal character. |
| 03:07.01 | *** join/#debian jojux (n=joju@golomb.math.uni-paderborn.de) |
| 03:07.08 | orchid | SkareCrow: #botpark is a good spot |
| 03:07.08 | Phated | karsten: Because some folks don't know how to change blootbot's config ;) |
| 03:07.22 | simonrvn | no kidding |
| 03:07.26 | SkareCrow | i dont want to teach it stupid stuff |
| 03:07.40 | Phated | And... you think #debian -isn't-? *heh* |
| 03:07.44 | SkareCrow | in there it will just be learning from stupid comments people put on there bot |
| 03:07.46 | karsten | SkareCrow: Until you figure out how to drive it, please take it off channel. |
| 03:07.50 | karsten | Phated: .. *point* |
| 03:07.55 | Phated | :) |
| 03:08.00 | SkareCrow | its learning |
| 03:08.03 | SkareCrow | it isnt saying anything |
| 03:08.11 | SkareCrow | its just listeing to the conversations and learning right now |
| 03:08.13 | Phated | As though it'll -learn-, anyway - using a command to hush it isn't -learning-. |
| 03:08.28 | SkareCrow | im telling it to shut up |
| 03:08.36 | simonrvn | /opme :P |
| 03:08.46 | SkareCrow | its not spamming right now |
| 03:08.47 | Phated | You really do believe it's inteligent, don't you. *chuckle* |
| 03:08.51 | SkareCrow | there is 800 users on this channel |
| 03:08.57 | Phated | s/li/lli/ |
| 03:08.58 | SkareCrow | it shouldt be a problem if it isnt talking |
| 03:09.02 | simonrvn | that's how you shut it up ;) |
| 03:09.11 | Phated | !hug |
| 03:09.17 | Phated | See? It learnt! :O |
| 03:09.27 | karsten | @bed Phated |
| 03:09.36 | Phated | ... wrong bed, luv. |
| 03:09.38 | Phated | !love phaedral |
| 03:09.43 | Phated | WHOOPS Sorry, phaedral! |
| 03:09.46 | *** part/#debian LillDude_10 (i=43624482@daphmb01dc1-213-54.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 03:09.50 | Phated | !love Phated |
| 03:09.54 | SkareCrow | im working to get my bot to carry out conversations |
| 03:09.58 | SkareCrow | not to just reply to commands |
| 03:09.59 | SkareCrow | !wakeup |
| 03:10.00 | pR1nC3Ss | Whoohoo! |
| 03:10.02 | gravity | This is not the best way to tell someone to not have their bot talk in here |
| 03:10.03 | Phated | Please don't. |
| 03:10.07 | SkareCrow | !replyrate 75 |
| 03:10.07 | pR1nC3Ss | Now replying to 75% of messages. |
| 03:10.11 | SkareCrow | !shutup |
| 03:10.11 | Tortel | !omfg |
| 03:10.11 | dpkg | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 03:10.11 | pR1nC3Ss | I'll be quiet :-( |
| 03:10.11 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, omfg is "oh my fluffy gerbil" OH! MY! FUCKING! GOD! Oh MotherFucking God!, or "Oh mother fucks god!" |
| 03:10.12 | Phated | wTF! |
| 03:10.43 | Phated | gravity: Sorry :( |
| 03:10.50 | beardy | SkareCrow: Please take that away from here. |
| 03:11.01 | *** join/#debian b0xy (n=b0xy@65.255.135.160) |
| 03:11.06 | gravity | It's fine if it doesn't talk |
| 03:11.18 | StarWars | Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 \n \l How i install java last version apt-get install ??? |
| 03:11.20 | Phated | SkareCrow: We really don't want random bot conversation. The other bots don't say anything until spoken to - if your bot does that - and doesn't use dpkg's callsign, why not. |
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| 03:11.26 | *** part/#debian ananda (n=ananda@200.164.92.242) |
| 03:11.28 | beardy | Having the same callchar as dpkg is not that good.. |
| 03:11.32 | karsten | !tell StarWars about install java |
| 03:11.41 | SkareCrow | it doesnt have random conversations |
| 03:11.43 | simonrvn | ffs |
| 03:11.44 | karsten | StarWars: No direct Debian source due to Sun's licensing idiocy. |
| 03:11.48 | SkareCrow | it trys to learn from what is said |
| 03:11.50 | SkareCrow | !words |
| 03:11.50 | dpkg | i guess words is "This is such a paradoxical time right now. It is the age of information and the age of misinformation. There was a time when people thought that something printed in a newspaper must be true. It's not like that online, but it almost is. ... but then you realize that it's just words, and that anybody can say anything at all." (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0112/ferrandino.shtml) |
| 03:11.51 | pR1nC3Ss | I know 2531 words (8419 contexts, 3.33 per word), 896 lines. |
| 03:12.00 | StarWars | !tell StarWars about install java |
| 03:12.03 | Phated | ... PLEASE change its callsign! |
| 03:12.03 | karsten | SkareCrow: Change the attention character |
| 03:12.15 | dvs | SkareCrow: At the very least, have it reply to another symbol besides "!" |
| 03:12.26 | simonrvn | and not @ |
| 03:12.27 | StarWars | !tell StarWars about java-package |
| 03:12.31 | Phated | And also - it shouldn't be randomly talking. |
| 03:12.35 | karsten | StarWars: /msg dpkg foo |
| 03:12.36 | Phated | Nor ~, I think. |
| 03:12.39 | SkareCrow | !wakeup |
| 03:12.40 | pR1nC3Ss | Whoohoo! |
| 03:12.45 | simonrvn | apt is ~ |
| 03:12.47 | pR1nC3Ss | apt is the pseudonym god uses when he'd rather not sign his own powers |
| 03:12.49 | Tortel | !what are you |
| 03:12.49 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 03:12.50 | pR1nC3Ss | computer are like air and 50% water and see <blootbot> |
| 03:12.52 | King_Brad | what command will show me the distro name ? |
| 03:12.52 | pR1nC3Ss | it’s a little-known fact that away from here that the revolution, things will just like sex: one language all of another crucial idea of how cgi works, never says excellent command will show me |
| 03:12.53 | Phated | WTF, do you -know- how to change his callsign? |
| 03:12.56 | SkareCrow | !shutup |
| 03:12.56 | dpkg | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 03:12.56 | pR1nC3Ss | I'll be quiet :-( |
| 03:13.02 | *** mode/#debian [+o gravity] by ChanServ |
| 03:13.02 | simonrvn | ... |
| 03:13.03 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@66-189-180-71.dhcp.wnch.wa.charter.com] by gravity |
| 03:13.03 | *** mode/#debian [-o gravity] by gravity |
| 03:13.06 | dvs | outta here |
| 03:13.09 | Phated | ... Go go gr. |
| 03:13.10 | karsten | !beer gravity |
| 03:13.14 | Phated | gravity, too. |
| 03:13.19 | simonrvn | kill that bot |
| 03:13.19 | simonrvn | kill that botthank you |
| 03:13.21 | beardy | SkareCrow: Please listen, change the character to which your bot listens to something else, and _not_ !, @, ~. |
| 03:13.32 | simonrvn | wtf, i didn't 'up' |
| 03:13.33 | akcom | When trying to install any app from source, I get the following message on ./configure: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" any ideas? |
| 03:13.36 | Phated | Nor :, in case you ever decide to invade other channels. |
| 03:13.37 | StarWars | !tell StarWars about source.list |
| 03:13.38 | akcom | I'm on a completely fresh install |
| 03:13.43 | King_Brad | what command will show me the distro name ? |
| 03:13.47 | StarWars | !tell StarWars about apt |
| 03:13.49 | Phated | StarWars: /msg dpkg, please. |
| 03:13.54 | beardy | !botmsg |
| 03:13.54 | dpkg | talk to me in /msg unless there is a reason to do it in the channel |
| 03:13.59 | simonrvn | !tell akcom -about build-essential |
| 03:14.14 | akcom | danka |
| 03:14.17 | akcom | danke even |
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| 03:14.49 | StarWars | !tell StarWars about java-package |
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| 03:14.59 | karsten | StarWars: *MSG THE BOTS* |
| 03:15.01 | beardy | StarWars: Don't !tell yourself. |
| 03:15.07 | simonrvn | /msg the bot |
| 03:15.12 | karsten | !tuesday |
| 03:15.12 | dpkg | hmm... tuesday is soylent green day |
| 03:15.33 | simonrvn | oh yum. NOT |
| 03:15.34 | Phated | I think people have no bot-fu today :( |
| 03:15.41 | Phated | !wednesday? |
| 03:15.41 | dpkg | wednesday is, like, see thursday |
| 03:15.45 | Phated | ... oh, sure. |
| 03:16.18 | simonrvn | it's tuesday ; s/tues/tards/ |
| 03:16.23 | beardy | !permasunday |
| 03:16.23 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
| 03:16.24 | Phated | Heh. |
| 03:16.58 | StarWars | I need to download maualy the Java pkg ? |
| 03:17.11 | dvs | *sigh* |
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| 03:18.38 | beardy | StarWars: The java-package factoid is quite clear. |
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| 03:19.58 | karsten | beardy: Transparent, even, with cool little rainbow shimmers and sunbursts. |
| 03:20.10 | dna_ | why does alsaconf not find my soundblaster live value card1? |
| 03:20.48 | beardy | karsten: As long as you're happy.. |
| 03:21.16 | simonrvn | Phated: the old tuesday factoid used to point to wednesday, etc. up to saturaday pointing to sunday, then well, sunday you know =) |
| 03:21.23 | simonrvn | satruday* |
| 03:21.25 | simonrvn | .. |
| 03:21.44 | Phated | simonrvn: Ah-hah. |
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| 03:22.18 | jetscreamer | dna_: what kernel |
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| 03:22.48 | jetscreamer | afaikt most of the clubies go to ubunto now |
| 03:22.54 | dvs | yay! |
| 03:22.55 | StarWars | To install Java wich File i need to DOWNLOAD " jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin OR jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin" ? |
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| 03:23.00 | dvs | thanks goodness for us |
| 03:23.01 | dna_ | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 03:23.13 | dondelelcaro | !tell StarWars -about install java |
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| 03:23.26 | karsten | StarWars: Yes. |
| 03:23.30 | karsten | StarWars: *read* the factoid. |
| 03:23.50 | Tchiak | whats the dpkg command to see how to properly upgrade the kernel? |
| 03:23.51 | sfullenwider | is there an alternative to subkeys.pgp.net? it keeps timing out |
| 03:23.51 | jetscreamer | dna_: i can't help you with that one :( i got off 2.4 as soon as 2.6 came out |
| 03:24.26 | beardy | Tchiak: apt-get(or aptitude) install kernel-image-2.x.x-? |
| 03:24.31 | dna_ | jetscreamer, should I upgrade my kernel ? |
| 03:24.36 | dondelelcaro | sfullenwider: pgp.mit.edu kind of works; although that version of the keyserver is kind of buggy |
| 03:24.39 | jetscreamer | dna_: you don't have to |
| 03:24.41 | karsten | sfullenwider: pgp.mit.edu, gpg.mit.edu |
| 03:24.46 | jetscreamer | it's a choice not a need |
| 03:24.49 | sfullenwider | tnx |
| 03:24.49 | karsten | sfullenwider: ... except not the latter ;-) |
| 03:24.51 | dondelelcaro | sfullenwider: odds are someone is blocking the hkp protocol though... |
| 03:25.10 | benjamindees | does this site crash firefox for anyone else? http://www.dlawlesshardware.com/165decleuhin.html |
| 03:25.12 | Tchiak | well i also want to make sure i can still reboot so i need upgrade instructions on how to upgrade the kernel safely |
| 03:25.14 | sfullenwider | off a router from DSL there is no one except my ISP upstream |
| 03:25.29 | sfullenwider | woot pgp.mit.edu worked, thank you! |
| 03:25.41 | karsten | sfullenwider: NP. |
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| 03:25.58 | StarWars | how i download direct on the server theat java file http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp ?? Lynx dont work theer |
| 03:26.02 | simonrvn | i use subkeys.p.n and pgp.m.e as a secondary |
| 03:26.02 | dna_ | jetscreamer, it is ok |
| 03:26.19 | dna_ | jetscreamer, I will just put the net install cd back in here in a bit and reformat this hunk |
| 03:26.36 | beardy | StarWars: Try links, or find out what the full url is, and use wget. |
| 03:26.48 | strider | dna_: got alsa-modules-2.4.XX installed? |
| 03:26.58 | StarWars | no work theat LINK with wget or lunx :) |
| 03:26.59 | jetscreamer | dna_: 2.6 is the default... or is that the etch beta |
| 03:27.06 | cheal | benjamindees: yes, 1.0.7 with flash and java I believe |
| 03:27.09 | StarWars | need Accept Licence |
| 03:27.12 | dvs | jetscreamer: etch beta |
| 03:27.23 | jetscreamer | dna_: strider seems to know something |
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| 03:27.33 | dna_ | strider, nome |
| 03:27.36 | Phated | simonrvn: What's p.n? |
| 03:28.00 | karsten | StarWars: http://java.sun.com/downloads/faq.html |
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| 03:28.32 | strider | dna_: try installing the coressponding diver modules then. and see if alsaconf finds it |
| 03:28.44 | strider | apt-cache search alsa-modules |
| 03:29.56 | benjamindees | cheal, it looks the same as moz bug #210931, but I can't see why exactly |
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| 03:30.28 | dna_ | strider, thank you that works:) |
| 03:30.28 | dvs | dna_: apt-get install alsa-modules-$(uname -r) |
| 03:30.35 | simonrvn | pgp.net |
| 03:30.58 | jetscreamer | `uname -r` <--less typing |
| 03:31.01 | karsten | StarWars: Try: http://sdlc-esd.sun.com/ESD20/JSCDL/jdk/1.5.0_06/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
| 03:31.11 | jetscreamer | one char |
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| 03:32.36 | karsten | StarWars: Looks like taht won't work either. |
| 03:32.39 | karsten | StarWars: Sun are ass. |
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| 03:33.26 | simonrvn | eventually we won't need them at all. once kaffe and friends have all the needed bits |
| 03:33.46 | dvs | simonrvn: What about Blackdown? |
| 03:33.56 | strider | then Mustang will be out :( |
| 03:34.10 | dna_ | /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/updates/alsa/snd-emu10k1.o: init_module: No such device |
| 03:34.13 | gravity | It'd be nice if everyone just built on eclipse, which can already run on things like gcj and (I think) caffe |
| 03:34.18 | karsten | StarWars: I take it you don't have a full-featureed GUI browser available? |
| 03:34.18 | gravity | s/caffe/kaffe/ |
| 03:34.20 | dna_ | what does this mean? |
| 03:34.25 | dvs | dna_: then it's not installed |
| 03:34.31 | StarWars | karsten 04:34:14 ERROR 403: Forbidden. |
| 03:34.32 | StarWars | :)) |
| 03:34.36 | simonrvn | yeh it runs on kaffe |
| 03:34.36 | StarWars | they ...sux |
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| 03:34.50 | karsten | StarWars: Yeah. F*cking braindead. |
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| 03:35.06 | kartoo | My ssh, apt-setup for http servers or any other commandline connection to the internet doesnt work, while my browser and messenger work. I use debian sarge. I've disabled IPv6 as i had some problems with it.. How should i make my ssh work. |
| 03:35.12 | StarWars | i DWL. to my WIN then upload kartoo |
| 03:35.25 | simonrvn | what? |
| 03:35.31 | AlexCTI | Hi.. someone can tell me about debian firewall? |
| 03:35.33 | dna_ | dvs, I tried twice and I need a snd-emu10k1.o |
| 03:35.34 | gravity | Wow... gibberish? |
| 03:35.36 | dna_ | where do I get that? |
| 03:35.47 | dondelelcaro | AlexCTI: what about it? |
| 03:35.50 | kartoo | Starwars, i dont understand what u say.. |
| 03:35.53 | simonrvn | AlexCTI: apt-get install iptables. it isn't a winblows "firewall" |
| 03:35.58 | dvs | dna_: apt-get --reinstall install alsa-modules-$(uname -r) |
| 03:36.07 | karsten | !tell kartoo about u |
| 03:36.12 | AlexCTI | I need to put one which support sip protocol |
| 03:36.25 | simonrvn | !tell karsten -about me |
| 03:36.28 | simonrvn | :P |
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| 03:36.49 | kartoo | karsten, "about u" lol:P |
| 03:36.51 | karsten | kartoo: Confirm DNS and routing work properly. |
| 03:36.54 | jetscreamer | AlexCTI: apt-get install lokkit for a quick easy to use firewall until you learn more |
| 03:36.55 | Fluten | does anyone here use prism2.5 based wifi cards? I am having a hard time getting mine to work. |
| 03:37.05 | simonrvn | oh fuck and it worked too |
| 03:37.14 | Phated | Heh. |
| 03:37.20 | karsten | kartoo: ... and check to see if you're proxying web or have other protos blocked at firewall. |
| 03:37.22 | kartoo | karsten, it works, because my browser , messener, and all others work |
| 03:37.30 | simonrvn | 22:36 dpkg : told karsten about simonrvn. |
| 03:37.35 | kartoo | karsten, its direct connection to internet.. |
| 03:37.40 | kartoo | karsten, no proxies.. |
| 03:37.49 | valdyn | kartoo: what exactly fails with which error message? |
| 03:37.50 | karsten | kartoo: Confirm DNS and routing. |
| 03:37.53 | AlexCTI | jatscreamer, that is what? |
| 03:37.57 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 03:38.01 | kartoo | karsten, timeout.. |
| 03:38.10 | karsten | kartoo: .. run 'ssh -v <user>@<host>' and post output to... |
| 03:38.14 | karsten | !tell kartoo about paster |
| 03:38.22 | beardy | simonrvn: You're an "Old joke"? |
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| 03:38.25 | karsten | kartoo: Timeout on *WHAT*? |
| 03:38.32 | simonrvn | *groan* |
| 03:38.43 | kartoo | karsten, timeout on attempting to connect.. |
| 03:39.03 | karsten | kartoo: Mind telling me what command this is, or should we play 20 questions? |
| 03:39.25 | simonrvn | oh, i changed it. used to say 'is an LDAP freak', before that it was something about subversion |
| 03:39.27 | beardy | karsten: Can it swim? |
| 03:39.32 | jetscreamer | karsten: animal mineral or veggie |
| 03:39.38 | kartoo | karsten, i'll get u the verbose output.. |
| 03:39.39 | Phated | Veggie. |
| 03:39.45 | karsten | kartoo: cat /etc/resolv.conf; route -n; host www.google.com; ssh -v user@host. |
| 03:39.47 | simonrvn | animal |
| 03:40.03 | Phated | CARROTBEARCARROTBEAR |
| 03:40.03 | karsten | kartoo: ... run that. Paste commands and output to the paster page the bot just gave you. |
| 03:40.10 | kartoo | karsten, ok |
| 03:40.24 | simonrvn | Phated: *bzzt* |
| 03:40.34 | karsten | jetscreamer: Mineral, 16 inch diameter, and powered by a 100# cordite charge. Pointing your way. Next question? |
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| 03:41.05 | jetscreamer | hey i used to boresight those things... haha yours needs it :) |
| 03:41.14 | GutterPunk | Does anyone get the bootup error "Mounting local filesystems: FAILED"? |
| 03:41.17 | simonrvn | wow, he really does hate '20 questions' |
| 03:41.24 | GutterPunk | When I do a "mount -a" I get no errors :s |
| 03:41.29 | simonrvn | GutterPunk: no |
| 03:41.40 | jetscreamer | GutterPunk: just the /selinux/ one |
| 03:41.52 | GutterPunk | yes, I get the /selinux/ one as well |
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| 03:42.13 | GutterPunk | The FAILED message started after going to testing and using a 2.6 kernel |
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| 03:42.24 | simonrvn | append="selinux=1 enabled=0" then go play. you're in for a PITA if you've customised anything |
| 03:42.55 | jetscreamer | man if i touch selinux i'd probably lock myself out |
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| 03:43.37 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: no |
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| 03:44.19 | simonrvn | only if you echo 1 to some /selinux/ file |
| 03:44.21 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 03:44.23 | akcom_ | How would I go about installing the JRE for Firefox? |
| 03:44.26 | kartoo | karsten, here is the link http://channels.debian.net/paste/1764 |
| 03:44.49 | GutterPunk | I also get a few "module already loaded messages... and /etc/network/options is deprecated... |
| 03:44.57 | GutterPunk | I would like to get rid of these messages |
| 03:45.15 | Guerin | GutterPunk: turn off your monitor during boot |
| 03:45.19 | dvs | GutterPunk: delete /etc/network/options that's one down |
| 03:45.19 | karsten | kartoo: OK. |
| 03:45.20 | akcom_ | !javadebs |
| 03:45.29 | simonrvn | /etc/network/options stuff can be found in /etc/sysctl.conf. (hint, always has TMK) |
| 03:45.31 | GutterPunk | dvs: alright! thanks :) |
| 03:45.32 | benjamindees | !tell akcom_ about java-package |
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| 03:45.40 | GutterPunk | Guerin: great idea |
| 03:45.43 | karsten | kartoo: Is bioinformatics.org running an SSH server at port 22? |
| 03:45.49 | dvs | GutterPunk: You're welcome. That was a tough one! ;-) |
| 03:46.08 | GutterPunk | dvs: I just try to be careful in deleting stuff :) new to this distro |
| 03:46.12 | Guerin | GutterPunk: well, that's 100% guaranteed to achieve what you desire |
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| 03:46.16 | Guerin | !warnings |
| 03:46.17 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 03:46.23 | dvs | GutterPunk: I guess you should really rename it |
| 03:46.38 | kartoo | karsten, yes |
| 03:46.51 | karsten | kartoo: confirmed. |
| 03:47.04 | karsten | kartoo: Looks like you're not getting SSH out. |
| 03:47.08 | NitinShantharam | hey guys, everytime i recieve mail (postfix + dovecot) squirrelmail just displays the message as "unknown sender" and "unknown subject" and i see permissions problems in mail.log i cant fix the problem |
| 03:47.10 | kartoo | i had been using ssh to that server for a long time till yesterday.. i reinstalled debian yesterday, and after that the problem.. |
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| 03:47.13 | karsten | kartoo: ... 'host bioinformatics.org'. Does it resolve? |
| 03:47.17 | kartoo | yes karsten.. |
| 03:47.24 | StarWars | !tell StarWars about FTP |
| 03:47.26 | kartoo | i can ping to bioinformatics.org |
| 03:47.29 | StarWars | !tell StarWars about FTP install |
| 03:47.30 | kartoo | karsten.. |
| 03:47.41 | beardy | !tell StarWars -about botmsg |
| 03:47.55 | simonrvn | ffs |
| 03:48.03 | karsten | kartoo: Looks like your nameserver's bogus. You're connecting to address 10.0.0.0, which isn't appropriate. |
| 03:48.16 | kartoo | yes karsten, how to change it? |
| 03:48.26 | GutterPunk | dvs: I moved it to options.deprecated |
| 03:48.27 | karsten | kartoo: Use a functional nameserver. |
| 03:48.29 | StarWars | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/doc/install.en.html NO WORKING LINK |
| 03:48.33 | dvs | GutterPunk: good move! |
| 03:48.39 | kartoo | karsten, ok |
| 03:48.49 | GutterPunk | dvs: what about the modules already loaded stuff? happen to know how to get rid of those? |
| 03:48.53 | simonrvn | smart |
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| 03:49.04 | Guerin | StarWars: TOPIC |
| 03:49.06 | simonrvn | GutterPunk: look for dupes in /etc/modules |
| 03:49.06 | dvs | GutterPunk: which modules? |
| 03:49.18 | simonrvn | afk |
| 03:49.21 | Guerin | StarWars: sounds like you went over to the Moron Side a while ago |
| 03:49.22 | GutterPunk | dvs: agpgart for example, 8139too |
| 03:49.42 | dvs | GutterPunk: Do what simonrvn says first |
| 03:49.47 | GutterPunk | dvs: no dupes |
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| 03:49.55 | GutterPunk | just ide-cd ide-disk and psmouse |
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| 03:50.33 | kartoo | karsten, i 've not specified that 10.0.0.1 anywhere... |
| 03:50.56 | karsten | kartoo: It's what SSH thinks bioinformatics.org is. |
| 03:51.03 | dvs | Hmmm... |
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| 03:51.15 | kartoo | where would that setting be, karsten,,?? |
| 03:51.40 | karsten | kartoo: 'host bioinformatics.org' or 'dig bioinformatics.org' and post output. |
| 03:51.42 | kartoo | and even my apt-setup does the same, when it attempts to connect to the mirrors.. karsten |
| 03:51.53 | karsten | kartoo: your nameserver is fucked up. use a different one. |
| 03:51.58 | StarWars | Starting ProFTPD ftp daemon: proftpd. |
| 03:52.10 | karsten | kartoo: You specify it in /etc/resolv.conf. 192.168.0.1 is apparently fried. |
| 03:52.22 | kartoo | ok karsten. |
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| 03:52.38 | dvs | GutterPunk: Do you have discover installed? |
| 03:52.52 | karsten | kartoo: ... s/192.168.0.1/192.168.1.1/ |
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| 03:53.12 | kartoo | it contains 192.168.1.1 only karsten.. |
| 03:53.13 | karsten | kartoo: What is at that IP, BTW? Some sort of appliance or a real box? |
| 03:53.20 | karsten | kartoo: That's what I said. |
| 03:53.23 | GutterPunk | dvs: yes |
| 03:53.24 | kartoo | karsten, its a router. |
| 03:53.31 | Guerin | StarWars: don't message me |
| 03:53.33 | dvs | GutterPunk: That's probably it |
| 03:53.48 | Guerin | StarWars: if you want to say bad words, do it in-channel where everyone can point and laugh |
| 03:53.53 | karsten | kartoo: ... Please run the diagnostic I said and post output. I'll ignore you until then. |
| 03:53.59 | GutterPunk | dvs: hmm... I should remove it then? |
| 03:54.19 | dvs | GutterPunk: You'd have to know what modules it loads so you can put them in your /etc/modules file |
| 03:54.26 | jetscreamer | it's 'probably' 192.168.1.1 anyway |
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| 03:54.49 | StarWars | Guerin shut up you Stupid ...and respect the Cheannel RULES. |
| 03:54.56 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 03:55.04 | jetscreamer | !pal StarWars |
| 03:55.05 | GutterPunk | dvs: alright, I'll do that... thanks! |
| 03:55.05 | karsten | StarWars: Suggest you respect your superiors... |
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| 03:55.11 | karsten | StarWars: ... and Guerin while you're at it. |
| 03:55.13 | Guerin | StarWars: the first of whjich is "READ THE FUCKING TOPIC" |
| 03:55.15 | dvs | GutterPunk: you're welcome |
| 03:55.25 | StarWars | i have No superiors ...I AM SUPREM. |
| 03:55.38 | jetscreamer | suprem? wtf is that, a pizza? |
| 03:55.52 | nvz | mmmmm I want a pizza |
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| 03:55.54 | StarWars | a Jedy |
| 03:55.56 | Guerin | maybe that'll make him all happy and dancey |
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| 03:56.04 | kartoo | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1765 karsten |
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| 03:56.26 | karsten | StarWars: tsk, tsk, tsk. Really shouldn't do that. |
| 03:56.34 | Guerin | StarWars: hey, I told you not to message me. It doesn't make you look tough and cool, you know. |
| 03:56.35 | jetscreamer | SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1) |
| 03:56.35 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.50 | karsten | kartoo: OK, *that* looks sane, actually. |
| 03:57.03 | astronut | is there an equivelent to the windows magnifying glass? |
| 03:57.04 | StarWars | girls Ignore |
| 03:57.27 | astronut | xzoom perhaps? |
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| 03:57.59 | karsten | atrus: xmag |
| 03:58.05 | karsten | astronut: xmag |
| 03:58.14 | astronut | not live |
| 03:58.18 | astronut | xzoom is |
| 03:58.19 | kartoo | karsten, whats the problem in it? is it something to do with iptables? does my iptables rules block outgoing ssh or something? |
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| 03:58.32 | karsten | kartoo: ssh -v user@155.212.252.68 then. Paste output. |
| 03:58.37 | gravity | astronut: It's something keithp is actively working on. There are implementations like gnopernicus, but none of them is ideal |
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| 03:58.57 | karsten | kartoo: 'iptables -L' will show your rules. If you've defined a firewall, quite possibly. |
| 03:59.21 | astronut | gravity: xzoom |
| 03:59.29 | gravity | astronut: I haven't tried it |
| 03:59.29 | astronut | yep |
| 03:59.48 | kartoo | karsten, now it connects.. i didnt do anything at all... f*** my nameserver.. |
| 04:00.14 | kartoo | karsten, why is it so unstable? what shd i do abt it? |
| 04:00.31 | karsten | kartoo: Not sure. Hammer? |
| 04:00.38 | kartoo | :) |
| 04:00.52 | kartoo | thanx karsten, for ur time and help... |
| 04:01.11 | karsten | kartoo: ... could be that it got bogus data and cached it for a while. Might want to find a reliable nameserver.... You've got the troubleshooting steps now, should help you recognize it. |
| 04:01.41 | Estes | Hi everyone, i just seen something i find interresting, using iftop on my interface connected to comcast, i seen this: 255.255.255.255:bootpc => 10.218.112.1:bootps So, i been wondering what it was since it's in a range covered by rfc 1918 i tried to ping it which visibly shows up a windows machine (no windows machine here.... ) i allow NAT for some comps that are all offline... someone would be doing something nasty ? |
| 04:01.43 | karsten | kartoo: Basically: ensure your interface(s) is(are) up, that your route is sane, that you can ping IPs, that you can resolve hostnames, and that you can connect to a specific remote port. |
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| 04:01.47 | kartoo | ok. karsten.. what should i do now? |
| 04:01.54 | karsten | kartoo: ... if any one of those fails, figure out why. |
| 04:02.05 | karsten | kartoo: Sounds like your problem's resolved, no? |
| 04:02.19 | kartoo | its resolved karsten.. thanx.. |
| 04:02.47 | karsten | kartoo: NP. |
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| 04:03.28 | xulf | is there a sarge mysql 5 package? |
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| 04:04.00 | chealer_ | xulf: no |
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| 04:05.41 | xulf | why not? |
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| 04:07.43 | Estes | xulf, you can check on dotdeb's website, it's just unofficial packages, just so you know |
| 04:08.16 | Estes | i use those packages for mysql-cluster and it seems pretty ok |
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| 04:08.52 | benjamindees | how do I get ps to show me the full command line for each process? |
| 04:09.08 | EdLin | benjamindees: ps auxwww |
| 04:09.35 | benjamindees | EdLin, nice, thanks |
| 04:09.51 | simonrvn | two extra w |
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| 04:11.27 | Estes | Ok, seems i found, it's the dhcp client |
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| 04:12.16 | kartoo | !dpkg make-jpkg |
| 04:12.49 | Estes | heh, comcast uses a windows server to do dhcp leases.... i understand now all the crap i got to connect at times |
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| 04:13.17 | simonrvn | eew |
| 04:13.30 | dscener | you guys ever checked out mymedia.org? |
| 04:13.36 | chealer_ | xulf: MySQL 5 was not stable when Sarge got stable |
| 04:14.03 | kartoo | !make-jpkg |
| 04:14.33 | kartoo | wats the syntax to get help from dpkg bot? |
| 04:15.25 | chealer_ | kartoo: what you used, when the factoid exists |
| 04:15.28 | chealer_ | !java-package |
| 04:15.28 | dpkg | somebody said java-package was a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 04:15.41 | Estes | !tell kartoo about make-jpkg |
| 04:16.09 | Estes | dpkg i dunno what is 'make-jpkg' |
| 04:16.09 | dpkg | Estes: what are you talking about? |
| 04:16.17 | Estes | :) |
| 04:16.53 | kartoo | why am i not getting java-package in my apt sources? apt-cache search java-package returns nothing.. |
| 04:17.50 | StarWars | i need java to install as root or a Normal user ? |
| 04:17.53 | chealer_ | kartoo: "java-package was a package in contrib". do you have contrib sources? |
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| 04:18.04 | kartoo | no... perhaps.. |
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| 04:18.42 | kartoo | chealer_ i have it |
| 04:18.42 | kartoo | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib |
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| 04:19.11 | chealer_ | kartoo: that only contains security updates, not packages which didn't have DSA-s since Sarge's release |
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| 04:19.26 | chealer_ | 3.1r1 even, I think |
| 04:19.58 | kartoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.20 | chealer_ | !tell kartoo about u |
| 04:20.41 | kartoo | !contrib |
| 04:20.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free software To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'non-free contrib' on the end. |
| 04:20.54 | chealer_ | kartoo: do you have a line that only has main in your sources.list? you don't really add a source, you normally just make one of your sources provide contrib too |
| 04:21.10 | kartoo | yes i have chealer_ |
| 04:21.45 | chealer_ | kartoo: so, do like the contrib factoid says |
| 04:21.54 | kartoo | chealer_ deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main |
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| 04:23.24 | kartoo | chealer_ thanx got it now.. |
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| 04:25.47 | StarWars | how i install |
| 04:25.48 | StarWars | dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for libX11.so.6 |
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| 04:26.07 | StarWars | libasound.so.2 |
| 04:26.15 | StarWars | libXtst.so.6 |
| 04:26.23 | StarWars | libX11.so.6 |
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| 04:26.45 | Jmax | hi, i need to enable something in the kernel, but i don't want to reboot |
| 04:26.57 | Jmax | any guides on kernel module configuration for debian? |
| 04:27.50 | Jmax | unstable, fwiw |
| 04:28.06 | chealer_ | Jmax: unlikely |
| 04:28.14 | Jmax | what is unlikely? |
| 04:28.48 | chealer_ | Jmax: kernel module configuration shouldn't be specific to Debian, so it's unlikely that there are guides for that specific to Debian |
| 04:29.01 | Jmax | ok |
| 04:29.12 | Jmax | so how should i go about it? make-kpkg? or what? |
| 04:30.01 | chealer_ | Jmax: I don't see how make-kpkg would help, but "enabling something" is quite vague |
| 04:30.08 | Wyzard | hmm... does anyone here have experience using Kismet on an ipw2200 card? I'm using the latest kismet (from unstable) with kernel 2.6.15, and it gets an "invalid argument" error when trying to put the card into monitor mode. |
| 04:30.17 | Jmax | chealer_: i need i810 DRI |
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| 04:30.53 | Wyzard | Jmax: Custom-compiled kernel, or a Debian stock one? |
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| 04:31.06 | Jmax | Wyzard: i'd like a stock one |
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| 04:31.14 | Jmax | would make things easier :) |
| 04:31.29 | StarWars | !tell StarWars about libX11.so.6 |
| 04:31.41 | Wyzard | Jmax: It should already have that module available, then... just modprobe it |
| 04:32.34 | chealer_ | StarWars: what's your native language? |
| 04:32.34 | gravity | StarWars: Install libx11-6 |
| 04:32.34 | Jmax | Wyzard: well... how do you know that? |
| 04:32.35 | StarWars | !tell StarWars about libX11.so.6 install |
| 04:32.35 | Wyzard | Jmax: It's probably called "i810", as the one my laptop uses is called "i915" |
| 04:32.35 | gravity | StarWars: Stop that |
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| 04:32.35 | StarWars | ok i see |
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| 04:32.35 | Wyzard | Jmax: because Debian's precompiled kernels have pretty much everything already built as a module |
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| 04:32.36 | Jmax | $ cat /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1/.config |grep CONFIG_DRM_I810 |
| 04:32.36 | Jmax | # CONFIG_DRM_I810 is not set |
| 04:33.11 | chealer_ | nice usage of cat :) |
| 04:33.15 | StarWars | No work |
| 04:33.22 | Wyzard | Jmax: 2.6.15 on sid? |
| 04:33.25 | gravity | StarWars: What "no work"? |
| 04:33.27 | Jmax | yes |
| 04:33.42 | Wyzard | Jmax: /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/kernel/drivers/char/drm/i810.ko exists on my system |
| 04:33.47 | StarWars | [05:32:51] <StarWars> tell StarWars about libx11 |
| 04:33.47 | StarWars | [05:32:51] <dpkg> i dunno what is 'libx11'. |
| 04:33.47 | StarWars | [05:33:00] <StarWars> tell StarWars Install libx11-6 |
| 04:33.47 | StarWars | [05:33:01] <dpkg> No, starwars, I won't. (target invalid?) |
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| 04:33.50 | Wyzard | Jmax: Try "modprobe i810" and see what you get |
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| 04:33.57 | Jmax | ah-ha |
| 04:33.58 | StarWars | ups |
| 04:34.18 | Jmax | so, modprobe what? |
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| 04:34.26 | Wyzard | Jmax: modprobe i810 |
| 04:34.27 | StarWars | !tell StarWars Install libx11-6 |
| 04:34.32 | StarWars | !tell StarWars about Install libx11-6 |
| 04:35.03 | Wyzard | Jmax: Alternatively, udev or X (I'm not sure which) ought to load it automatically -- i915 gets loaded automatically on my laptop, without any special action or configuration needed on my part |
| 04:35.05 | gravity | StarWars: Stop it |
| 04:35.13 | gravity | StarWars: Stop using !tell StarWars about |
| 04:35.19 | gravity | StarWars: What is your question? |
| 04:35.20 | lakcaj | StarKruzr, just /msg the bot |
| 04:35.49 | lakcaj | and there isn't even a factoid about libx11 |
| 04:35.52 | gravity | No shit |
| 04:35.54 | deadcat | i have a dir with bunch of .BUP .IFO .VOB files. total is 4.4g how do i turn it back into a dvd iso so i can burn it? and play it on a dvd player? |
| 04:35.57 | gravity | Because it's obvious how to get it |
| 04:36.06 | Wyzard | hehe |
| 04:36.28 | MrObvious | !captain obvious MrCoYoTe_ |
| 04:36.32 | MrObvious | !captain obvious MrObvious |
| 04:36.33 | gravity | If he'd just ask an actual question, we could help |
| 04:36.39 | StarWars | I NEED to install few LIB`s. libX11.so.6 libasound.so.2 libXp.so.6 |
| 04:36.40 | MrObvious | Err wrong name. |
| 04:36.58 | gravity | StarWars: aptitude install libx11-6 libasound2 libxp6 |
| 04:36.59 | MrObvious | /smacks tab completion. |
| 04:37.09 | Wyzard | StarWars: It's in the "libx11-6" package |
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| 04:38.08 | StarWars | gravity Thanks |
| 04:38.10 | StarWars | Wyzard Thanks |
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| 04:38.56 | strider | Wyzard: ipw2200 will probably not work in monitor mode. |
| 04:39.33 | strider | http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.ipw2100.devel/6882 |
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| 04:40.00 | BoltActnAssault_ | where can i edit the arp cache in debian? |
| 04:40.11 | Jmaxxx | Wyzard: maybe you can help, i'm trying to enable DRI on my i810 |
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| 04:40.14 | Wyzard | strider: Interesting... kismet's README.gz says it's supported |
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| 04:41.11 | Wyzard | "Kismet now supports the ipw2200 card with monitor mode. If you use this card, make sure you add the ipw2200 source to the "fuzzycrypt" line in your config file." |
| 04:41.13 | strider | Wyzard: if you try iwconfig eth1 mode monitor, you might get the invalid argument error |
| 04:41.27 | Wyzard | and ipw2200 is indeed on the fuzzycrypt line, though that shouldn't have anything to do with just putting the card in monitor mode |
| 04:41.29 | strider | There is a patch in that thread |
| 04:41.41 | Wyzard | strider: Yeah, I do |
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| 04:42.27 | strider | Wyzard: for the kconfig. but the fw keeps restarting |
| 04:42.51 | Jmaxxx | how do i tell if a kernel module is already loaded? |
| 04:42.59 | Wyzard | Jmaxxx: lsmod |
| 04:43.04 | StarWars | gravity to install i use : aptitude install libXt.so.6 libXext.so.6 libXtst.so.6 libXi.so.6 |
| 04:43.05 | StarWars | ? |
| 04:43.17 | strider | Wyzard: you also might have to go to fw version 2.3 to solve the restart issue |
| 04:43.18 | gravity | StarWars: No. You type the command that I told you. |
| 04:43.20 | StarWars | or maibie is a group |
| 04:43.33 | gravity | StarWars: Just install x-window-system-core |
| 04:43.41 | Jmaxxx | thanks |
| 04:43.46 | StarWars | apt-get install x-window-system-core ? |
| 04:43.48 | gravity | This isn't worth dealing with idiocy |
| 04:43.51 | gravity | StarWars: Yes |
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| 04:44.03 | pete__ | what version of Debian is 3.0? |
| 04:44.08 | gravity | pete__: woody |
| 04:44.11 | Wyzard | strider: Later in the readme it says it's supported "as of 1.0.4 and firmware 2.3"... I'm using git-1.0.8 and firmware 2.4 |
| 04:44.17 | StarWars | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 04:44.17 | StarWars | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 04:44.19 | strider | Wyzard: anyway, it might have been solved by now ( started with the release of the 2.6.15 kernel) . check the /topic of #ipw2100 |
| 04:44.30 | pete__ | gravity: thanks |
| 04:44.52 | StarWars | i kill pkg |
| 04:44.56 | Wyzard | strider: ah... I didn't even notice that channel existed :-) |
| 04:45.00 | Wyzard | strider: Thanks for the pointers |
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| 04:45.18 | gravity | pete__: No problem |
| 04:45.50 | strider | np, i was having the same problems at first :) |
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| 04:46.20 | StarWars | how i finde wich Video Card i have ??? the X win Sys. ask me. |
| 04:47.24 | strider | Wyzard: heh, they are quite helpful there. talk directly with the devs ;) |
| 04:47.38 | valdyn | StarWars: lspci |
| 04:48.01 | valdyn | StarWars: why do you kill -9 dpkg? |
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| 04:48.22 | gteppel | What does setting icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts to 1 do? I found the setting in my /etc/sysctl.conf file |
| 04:48.41 | valdyn | gteppel: dont reply to broadcast pings |
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| 04:50.25 | gteppel | k |
| 04:50.49 | rvca_ | Does anybody know if writing repeteadly to the same location (im talking several times a second) for a long time (maybe days) can damage the hard disk? |
| 04:51.14 | valdyn | rvca_: hardly |
| 04:51.50 | rvca_ | jaja, ok. |
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| 04:52.19 | DonL | rvca_, might be something you should stop, though |
| 04:52.20 | BoltActnAssault_ | what port does ping use (icmp)? |
| 04:52.56 | Wyzard | strider: Unfortunately, the link to the Kconfig patch in that gmane archive is broken :-( |
| 04:53.37 | valdyn | rvca_: swap does this usually, maybe not several times per second, but quite often |
| 04:53.52 | Wyzard | rvca_: Most of the writes to the same location would just overwrite each other in the disk cache and not actually get put onto the disk surface at all |
| 04:54.01 | dbernar1 | I have a program that creates this output: http://dabar.selfip.org/perl/cgi.pl |
| 04:54.04 | dbernar1 | Why does it output as plain text, and not as a web page? |
| 04:54.04 | DonL | valdyn, that doesn't involve the hard drive though |
| 04:54.21 | valdyn | DonL: eh? swap doesnt involve hard drive? |
| 04:54.26 | _xeno | When I use Kopete to log on to my AIM name it give sme the error that I've hit a rate limit and kicks me offline... Wtf? I'm logged in ok on my windows machine |
| 04:54.49 | strider | Wyzard: hmm, i think i still have it. lemme have a look |
| 04:55.07 | DonL | valdyn,no that's not what I mean |
| 04:55.13 | rvca_ | yea, i thought so, i was wondering if maybe having a swap could damage your hd on the long run |
| 04:55.28 | valdyn | DonL: what then? |
| 04:55.29 | rvca_ | but again , swap is used rarely |
| 04:55.34 | benjamindees | can anybody on kde tell me if this command returns a value of 2 or more? |
| 04:55.36 | benjamindees | ps x -o cmd|awk 'BEGIN { FS = " " } ; { print $2 }'|grep -c konqueror |
| 04:55.53 | DonL | valdyn, I thought we were talking ram |
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| 04:56.01 | valdyn | rvca_: depending on your workload |
| 04:56.06 | valdyn | DonL: oki |
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| 04:56.54 | Chakra | do you type /server -m to join another server in the same window? |
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| 04:57.55 | Amarande | Chakra: which client? |
| 04:58.02 | DonL | must go. Thanks for the info and the chat |
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| 04:58.22 | Chakra | mirc |
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| 04:58.47 | rvca_ | THNX |
| 04:59.01 | gravity | Jesus... mirc in a linux channel? |
| 04:59.08 | gravity | What is the world coming to? |
| 04:59.14 | deadcat | gravity: maybe with wine |
| 04:59.16 | Phated | Heh. |
| 04:59.18 | _xeno | When I use Kopete to log on to my AIM name it give sme the error that I've hit a rate limit and kicks me offline... Wtf? I'm logged in ok on my windows machine |
| 04:59.44 | Chakra | *shrug* |
| 04:59.45 | gravity | deadcat: That's even less excusable. I can see if if you can't install linux and want help with it, but geez |
| 04:59.59 | deadcat | hehe |
| 05:00.11 | deadcat | ok. just upgraded firefox in sid. whats up with the small ass fonts? |
| 05:00.46 | valdyn | deadcat: upgraded from which to which version? |
| 05:01.05 | deadcat | firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-1_i386.deb firefox_1.5.dfsg-4_i386.deb |
| 05:01.15 | deadcat | -4 to 1.5.0.1 |
| 05:02.12 | valdyn | deadcat: maybe its using your gnome's dpi setting now |
| 05:02.48 | deadcat | the File Edit View fonts gets smaller. so does the text on the webpages. |
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| 05:02.58 | valdyn | deadcat: * debian/firefox-runner: Enable Pango support by default. |
| 05:03.01 | deadcat | valdyn: very strange. |
| 05:03.02 | GutterPunk | when I'm using the make-kpkg stuff to build a custom kernel... do I need to rebuild everything all the time? |
| 05:03.10 | StarWars | Java Install Problem http://pastebin.ca/40662 |
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| 05:03.19 | ddunham | whats a good utility to test disk throughput |
| 05:03.21 | deadcat | valdyn: i dont know what that means. i am not too familiar with fonts |
| 05:03.28 | valdyn | deadcat: me neither |
| 05:03.39 | Wyzard | Pango is GTK's font-layout engine |
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| 05:03.48 | Wyzard | text-layout, I should say |
| 05:03.54 | deadcat | valdyn: fonts to me is: if it doesnt look like before the upgrade, i complain |
| 05:04.11 | strider | Wyzard: well, i have the patch |
| 05:04.27 | Wyzard | valdyn: Were your fonts maybe too big in the past, so you set them to something smaller than "100%" using the zoom feature? |
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| 05:04.33 | Wyzard | oops |
| 05:04.35 | Wyzard | deadcat: ^^^ |
| 05:04.35 | valdyn | deadcat: yea, it just looks to me like you'll just have to change the settings |
| 05:05.19 | valdyn | Wyzard: oh i always decreased the font size in firefox, but i dont have this upgrade yet |
| 05:05.22 | deadcat | Wyzard: but the thing is that the same settings worked fine before the upgrade.. i didnt change any font settings |
| 05:05.32 | deadcat | valdyn: that suck. |
| 05:05.37 | Wyzard | deadcat: Your fonts now should be consistent with other GTK apps, if they weren't before... so I'm wondering if they were too large initially, and you shrunk them to compensate, and are just now seeing them at their "proper" size |
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| 05:05.46 | valdyn | deadcat: you did not, firefox uses a different layout engine now tough so its changed |
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| 05:06.25 | Wyzard | strider: cool |
| 05:06.25 | strider | deadcat: firefox upgraded perfectly for me :P |
| 05:06.35 | strider | Wyzard: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1766 |
| 05:06.51 | Wyzard | strider: Perfect, thanks |
| 05:07.46 | valdyn | deadcat: should say 'font-layout' since this has nothing to do with the whole page layout.. |
| 05:07.48 | strider | though if you are going to go about compiling your kernel for this, maybe just disable ieee80211 and ipw2200 and get the latest drivers directly |
| 05:08.09 | deadcat | valdyn: but my other gtk apps still the same font as before |
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| 05:08.29 | valdyn | deadcat: firefox switch to the same engine as gtk2 was already |
| 05:08.32 | Wyzard | strider: I might if I have trouble with the version I already have... but I'm already using a custom kernel so changing one config option and recompiling isn't much effort |
| 05:08.38 | valdyn | s/switch/switched/ |
| 05:08.43 | deadcat | valdyn: Wyzard : http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/xwd_20060207_10584.png |
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| 05:08.58 | deadcat | notice the fonts on the firefox browser |
| 05:09.21 | strider | Wyzard: ah, in that case, great! i made debs of the latest drivers, which works fine |
| 05:09.30 | valdyn | deadcat: ah you are referring to the UI too |
| 05:09.38 | Jmaxxx | hmm |
| 05:09.39 | Jmaxxx | (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (No such file or directory) |
| 05:09.45 | Jmaxxx | with udev, on sid |
| 05:09.45 | valdyn | deadcat: you must have adjusted firefox's font size manually once |
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| 05:09.52 | Jmaxxx | how can i fix it? |
| 05:09.58 | deadcat | valdyn: should i set it to default? |
| 05:10.19 | Wyzard | deadcat: I can't compare to my own system since I don't use Firefox, but I still think you've previously set your fonts to smaller-than-default settings because until now they were being drawn larger than the requested font size |
| 05:10.27 | valdyn | deadcat: im not sure you can change the GUI font size from firefox preferences |
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| 05:10.49 | BoltActnAssault | anyone else having problems listing channels on this server? |
| 05:11.09 | deadcat | k. thanks. let me try to change some settings back to default maybe |
| 05:11.19 | BoltActnAssault | i get 0/0 with no filter set |
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| 05:11.26 | valdyn | deadcat: look at ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and whatever this file includes |
| 05:12.02 | Guerin | i can't seem to set firefox's gui font size ANY which way |
| 05:12.15 | deadcat | valdyn: my .gtkrc-2.0 is fine. i've been using that. i dont know what the default size for firefox. 13? |
| 05:12.21 | valdyn | deadcat: uh, camorama is small too |
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| 05:12.26 | strider | deadcat: you could check the display resolution in font prefs and your system are equal |
| 05:12.31 | Guerin | i ended up tricking it into thinking the X server was running at the wrong dpi in order to make it a sane size |
| 05:12.35 | valdyn | deadcat: so firefoxfontsize == gnome fontsize ? |
| 05:12.44 | deadcat | valdyn: no. those are old stuff. just the first firefox |
| 05:13.27 | deadcat | valdyn: ok. now the firefox html text is back to normal. but the File Edit View Go text are smaller than other gtk apps |
| 05:14.07 | deadcat | valdyn: oh. actually i cant really tell... fuck it |
| 05:14.08 | valdyn | deadcat: check firefox dpi setting and ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
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| 05:14.28 | strider | deadcat: Edit-->Prefs-->Content-->Fonts advanced and see if the dpi is ok |
| 05:14.48 | strider | compare it with xdpyinfo |
| 05:15.04 | deadcat | valdyn: dpi normal, gtkrc-2.0 is 10 which is what i've been using |
| 05:15.23 | valdyn | deadcat: what is 10? |
| 05:15.33 | deadcat | strider: i am using system setting now |
| 05:15.56 | strider | hmm, wierd |
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| 05:16.15 | valdyn | system setting does not equal gnome setting |
| 05:16.46 | valdyn | deadcat: gnome-font-properties |
| 05:17.09 | deadcat | nevermind. i think its the right size. i guess i was just comparing them to the gtk fonts and the browser text fonts. they WERE the same size but now i guess firefox is back to gtk font size |
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| 05:18.02 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: load the appropriate drivers, lspci can tell you which agp bridge you have |
| 05:18.04 | deadcat | i guess i never notice them. )= |
| 05:18.22 | Jmaxxx | valdyn: how? |
| 05:18.38 | Jmaxxx | how can lspci tell me that? |
| 05:18.40 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: with modprobe |
| 05:18.51 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: 'lspci | grep -i agp' |
| 05:19.03 | Jmaxxx | [root@gir] /dev # lspci |grep -i agp |
| 05:19.04 | Jmaxxx | [root@gir] /dev # |
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| 05:19.23 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: lspci | grep -i unknown |
| 05:19.34 | Jmaxxx | nothing |
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| 05:19.55 | deadcat | i have the agent switch plugin for firefox. but why the fuck it keeps reseting back to default? it didnt do that before. |
| 05:19.59 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: do you have an agp port at all? |
| 05:20.00 | deadcat | firefox sucks |
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| 05:20.02 | strider | Jmaxxx: dmesg |grep agp |
| 05:20.13 | Jmaxxx | Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones |
| 05:20.13 | Jmaxxx | [drm:fill_in_dev] *ERROR* Cannot initialize the agpgart module. |
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| 05:20.17 | yos87 | hi |
| 05:20.37 | Jmaxxx | valdyn: i assume so, i need to enable DRI, and it won't -- i think this is why |
| 05:20.53 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: why do you assume so? |
| 05:20.59 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: assumptions dont help |
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| 05:21.07 | Jmaxxx | valdyn: ok, how can i find out? |
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| 05:21.30 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: by opening the case for example, or pasting the whole lspci output somewhere |
| 05:21.35 | Jmaxxx | ok |
| 05:21.57 | Jmaxxx | http://rafb.net/paste/results/QSawOk23.html |
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| 05:23.21 | Jmaxxx | valdyn: any thoughts? |
| 05:23.21 | strider | need intel_agp |
| 05:23.30 | Jmaxxx | intel_agp ? |
| 05:23.31 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: intel_agp or whatever its called |
| 05:23.37 | Jmaxxx | is that a kernel module? |
| 05:23.39 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: 'modprobe intel_agp' |
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| 05:23.50 | Jmaxxx | FATAL: Module intel_agp not found. |
| 05:24.00 | valdyn | !find intel_agp |
| 05:24.04 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: uname -r |
| 05:24.10 | Jmaxxx | 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 05:24.24 | Jmaxxx | sid stock |
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| 05:26.15 | _xeno | What is the advatage or disadvantage of upgrading to an unstable version of Debian? |
| 05:26.17 | Wyzard | Jmaxxx: /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/kernel/drivers/char/agp/intel-agp.ko exists on my system too |
| 05:26.28 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: modprobe intel-agp |
| 05:26.36 | Jmaxxx | [root@gir] /dev # locate intel-agp |
| 05:26.36 | Jmaxxx | /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/kernel/drivers/char/agp/intel-agp.ko |
| 05:26.40 | Jmaxxx | ah |
| 05:26.48 | Jmaxxx | [root@gir] /dev # modprobe intel-agp |
| 05:26.48 | Jmaxxx | FATAL: Module intel_agp not found. |
| 05:26.50 | Jmaxxx | :( |
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| 05:27.00 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: your kernel is broken |
| 05:27.02 | Wyzard | _xeno: Newer versions of software, but stuff breaks. Unstable is where software goes to have bugs found so the bugs don't make it into a stable release. Don't run it unless you have the patience and skills to deal with problems. |
| 05:27.13 | Jmaxxx | valdyn: err |
| 05:27.16 | Jmaxxx | it's the stock kernel |
| 05:27.18 | Wyzard | Jmaxxx: Run "depmod -ae" |
| 05:27.23 | Wyzard | Jmaxxx: Then try again |
| 05:27.28 | strider | i have roughly the same specs, just that i have an ATI 9700 instead |
| 05:27.40 | Jmaxxx | Wyzard: nope :( |
| 05:27.44 | horza1 | anyone got a good place to explain a basic /etc/dhcpd.conf, google keeps giving me broken .sh scripts |
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| 05:27.54 | Wyzard | Jmaxxx: The .ko file exists but you can't modprobe it? |
| 05:27.55 | valdyn | horza1: its manpage |
| 05:28.03 | Jmaxxx | Wyzard: seems about the size of it |
| 05:28.41 | _xeno | Wyzard: I'm wanting to play with Wine... That is the only reason... Unless you can show me how to compile a software and get it to work on stable Debian |
| 05:28.42 | Wyzard | Jmaxxx: Are you sure the kernel whose module directory you were looking at is the one you're actually running? |
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| 05:28.51 | Wyzard | Jmaxxx: uname -r |
| 05:28.57 | Jmaxxx | Wyzard: err |
| 05:28.59 | Jmaxxx | 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 05:29.04 | Jmaxxx | i guess not |
| 05:29.19 | Wyzard | Jmaxxx: Well, that's not 2.6.12, but that module should exist in 2.6.15 too -- it does on my system |
| 05:29.29 | Jmaxxx | odd |
| 05:29.35 | tipee | debian function about processor risc? |
| 05:29.47 | valdyn | Jmaxxx: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 05:30.21 | Jmaxxx | ok, thanks |
| 05:30.24 | valdyn | tipee: what? |
| 05:30.36 | tipee | debian works in processor risc? |
| 05:30.43 | valdyn | tipee: risc is not a processor |
| 05:30.51 | Wyzard | _xeno: wine seems to be packaged in stable too |
| 05:30.59 | tipee | arquiterure processor |
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| 05:31.15 | valdyn | tipee: risc is a design principle, not an architecture i guess |
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| 05:31.20 | _xeno | Wyzard: The older version yes, but I need the newer version to play newer games. |
| 05:31.31 | valdyn | !risc |
| 05:31.31 | dpkg | well, risc is (Reduced Instruction Set Computing) RISC chips use a simpler instruction set than CISC chips to get their work done. This results in more instructions that need to be processed by the processor, but they are easier to process, so the chips can process more instructions per clock cycle than a CISC chip. Chip philosophers argue the benefits of RISC vs. CISC, but there is no clear cut winner. See also CISC for additional info. |
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| 05:31.50 | valdyn | !cisc |
| 05:31.50 | dpkg | methinks cisc is (Complex Instruction Set Computer) Intel x86 chips are CISC chips because of the complexity of the instruction set. On the other side of the coin, you have RISC chips that use a reduced instruction set. RISC chips split big operations into lots of simple, tiny instructions that are processed very quickly. Some people argue that RISC chips have the edge. Several Intel competitors such as Cyrix and AMD use RISC chips with CISC converters ... |
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| 05:32.06 | tipee | video game xbox is processor risc |
| 05:32.09 | yos87 | someone know some good graphic software such acdsee for debian |
| 05:32.11 | Wyzard | _xeno: ah... well, a backport may be available (try backports.org and apt-get.org), or you might prefer to try Cedega, since that's meant specifically for gaming |
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| 05:32.16 | valdyn | tipee: so? |
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| 05:32.47 | _xeno | Wyzard: I dont want to pay for it. :( |
| 05:32.51 | valdyn | tipee: again: RISC is a DESIGN paradigm, not a cpu type |
| 05:33.23 | Jmaxxx | ok, thanks guys |
| 05:33.25 | valdyn | tipee: xbox360 hasnt been cracked yet i think |
| 05:33.35 | tipee | ok thanks |
| 05:33.38 | Wyzard | tipee: No, you cannot run Debian on an Xbox 360 -- first of all, the Xbox is locked down so it won't run anything but authorized games, and that hasn't been cracked yet, and second, its processor is a new design that isn't used anywhere else so it's not supported by compilers |
| 05:34.00 | GillaGal | Any insight into why my machine no longer powers down after a 4.6 kernel upgrade? (APM BIOS support is a module in the kernel) |
| 05:34.01 | Wyzard | tipee: It's possible to run Debian on a (modded) original Xbox, though |
| 05:34.14 | yos87 | sombody know some good graphic software in debian |
| 05:34.20 | tipee | Wyzard thanks |
| 05:34.58 | valdyn | tipee: xbox360 uses a modified powerpc chip i think |
| 05:35.24 | _xeno | Wyzard: Ar eyou able to download cedega for free? |
| 05:35.26 | Wyzard | Xenon is PPC-based, but it's not a standard PPC |
| 05:35.34 | valdyn | tipee: which is indeed a risc chip ) |
| 05:35.40 | GillaGal | haha 2.6 I mean |
| 05:35.46 | Wyzard | _xeno: I *think* the CVS version is free and they only charge for the packaged versions, but I'm not sure of that; I don't use it myself |
| 05:36.00 | tipee | ok |
| 05:36.10 | _xeno | CVS = ? |
| 05:36.31 | Wyzard | I'm not sure whether generic PPC-compiled binaries would be able to run on a Xenon processor |
| 05:36.58 | yos87_2 | !tell yos87_2 about wine |
| 05:37.16 | chealer_ | !tell yos87_2 about selftell |
| 05:37.25 | Wyzard | _xeno: It's the revision-control system which is used to store the source code as it's worked on |
| 05:37.45 | Wyzard | _xeno: IOW, you can get the source code and compile it yourself |
| 05:37.56 | _xeno | Wyzard: IOW? |
| 05:38.02 | Wyzard | In Other Words |
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| 05:39.18 | tipee | to install debian in xbox360 she is necessary to again program the system for architecture of the processor of the console? |
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| 05:39.45 | Wyzard | tipee: You might have better luck asking in a channel where the people speak your native language |
| 05:39.46 | valdyn | _xeno: cedega is commercial, the source code in cvs is not very useful |
| 05:39.51 | _xeno | Wyzard: ave you tried cedega? |
| 05:40.11 | Wyzard | _xeno: I've tried it once and wasn't too impressed with it, but they've released 5.0 since then so maybe it's gotten better |
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| 05:40.20 | valdyn | it hasnt really |
| 05:40.28 | valdyn | they just throw out GUIs and versions ) |
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| 05:40.39 | Wyzard | _xeno: I just use a Windows box (with a KVM switch) for gaming |
| 05:40.45 | tipee | sorry |
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| 05:40.49 | nobley | Hi guys, this might not be the most technical question out there but I'll give it a go anyway,... |
| 05:40.50 | _xeno | Wyzard: Is it just more convient and simpler? |
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| 05:41.07 | GillaGal | Any insight into why my machine no longer powers down after a shutdown? (APM BIOS support is a module in the 2.6 kernel) |
| 05:41.10 | Wyzard | _xeno: That too, but it's mostly just that it *works* |
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| 05:41.25 | _xeno | Wyzard: Hmm... Well what should I use Debian for? I've had it for like 2 weeks. |
| 05:41.38 | valdyn | _xeno: its fine on nvidia 3d cards and games it supports ( which are few ) |
| 05:41.50 | nobley | Ive installed debian on an old comptuer to put in a classroom for 9-10 year olds and want to set the domains that it can visit manually with root so that in the classroom account the kids can not stay off on the internet.. |
| 05:41.55 | nobley | where do I start? |
| 05:42.01 | _xeno | valdyn: I'm 0 for 2 now... Ati card (laptop) and it doesn't do games i want lol |
| 05:42.03 | Wyzard | _xeno: I tried running Morrowind in Cedega and it was horribly slow and choppy; tried running Total Annihilation but it had palette problems and other visual glitches that made it unplayable; was going to try Oni but I read that it only works if you actively block it from being able to use sound |
| 05:42.11 | Wyzard | _xeno: At that point I gave up and uninstalled Cedega |
| 05:42.24 | _xeno | Wyzard: Makes perfect sense. |
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| 05:43.35 | _xeno | Wyzard: Hmm what about programs like Adobe Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Flash, and such |
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| 05:43.44 | Wyzard | strider: Kismet works! :-D |
| 05:43.48 | valdyn | _xeno: use plain wine for those |
| 05:44.01 | _xeno | valdyn: The stable version in Debian's Synaptic? |
| 05:44.04 | valdyn | _xeno: plain wine is much better for everything that does not use directx |
| 05:44.12 | valdyn | _xeno: yea |
| 05:44.20 | _xeno | valdyn: Would it run all those programs? |
| 05:44.31 | valdyn | _xeno: no idea, check winehq.com |
| 05:44.33 | _xeno | valdyn: I'm a web designer graphic artist etc too. I want those on Linux essentially. |
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| 05:44.40 | _xeno | valdyn: th |
| 05:44.41 | _xeno | x |
| 05:44.44 | iciclebox | |
| 05:45.07 | Wyzard | I think there was an item on Digg a few days ago about why Photoshop is the most-widely-wanted-on-Linux application? |
| 05:45.08 | iciclebox | linuxda: thanks |
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| 05:45.36 | nevyn | Wyzard: it comes down to the same reasons that people want autocad |
| 05:45.46 | nevyn | because they're more platforms than applications |
| 05:45.47 | strider | Wyzard: that's nice. using the patch? |
| 05:45.56 | valdyn | Wyzard: yea and the essence was that gfx artists wont learn more than 1 GUI interface ;) |
| 05:46.08 | Wyzard | strider: yep... and firmware 2.4; no problems with firmware restarts so far |
| 05:46.17 | nevyn | valdyn: to be fair most engineers don't want to either |
| 05:46.25 | TheBest | No X11 DISPLAY variable was set, but this program performed an operation which requires it. |
| 05:46.40 | nevyn | valdyn: try giving a ccna a edgecore switch to configure |
| 05:46.48 | TheBest | i need X11 program to install or what ..is a java problem |
| 05:46.52 | valdyn | nevyn: i guess most people dont |
| 05:47.02 | nevyn | right |
| 05:47.04 | iciclebox | ah is there a better IRC client than BitchX? preferably one to use with X |
| 05:47.13 | nevyn | iciclebox: irssi>* |
| 05:47.14 | benjamindees | iciclebox, xchat |
| 05:47.16 | valdyn | iciclebox: xterm -e irssi |
| 05:47.25 | nevyn | iciclebox: but you could try xchat... |
| 05:48.36 | nobley | what program should I use in debian to restrict web browsing to a list of allowed domains? |
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| 05:49.41 | nevyn | nobley: depends. |
| 05:50.02 | nevyn | nobley: you could use squid but it's kinda overkill for a single machine |
| 05:50.14 | nobley | just want a text file which I could edit su to add allowed domains |
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| 05:50.34 | nobley | so that 10 year old kids in a classroom dont go surfing for porn |
| 05:50.52 | iciclebox | ok I've just copied a file to /usr/bin/, but linux still complains that file not found. my PATHs are set correctly |
| 05:50.55 | nevyn | nobley: what desktop are you using? |
| 05:50.56 | nobley | not that I would blame them... but still |
| 05:51.07 | nobley | gnome |
| 05:51.33 | deadcat | i bet little johnny is gonna figure out how to tunnel his shits |
| 05:51.40 | nevyn | nobley: hrm I don't know about gnome but kde kiosk provides the sort of functionality you talk about |
| 05:52.16 | nobley | kde kiosk,.. well theres no harm in having both running |
| 05:52.19 | nevyn | as well as all the other bits n' pieces you want in a classroom |
| 05:52.47 | iciclebox | ok I've just copied a file to /usr/bin/, but linux still complains that file not found. my PATHs are set correctly |
| 05:52.55 | nevyn | don't allow access to a shell.. restrict users in this group to this set of applications and give them this menu |
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| 05:53.29 | nobley | of course |
| 05:53.48 | nobley | should be too hard keeping 10 year olds out in a linux box :) |
| 05:54.15 | _xeno | question |
| 05:54.26 | _xeno | is there a general login like 'guest' for debian? |
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| 05:54.55 | nevyn | nobley: http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin/ |
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| 05:57.47 | benjamindees | iciclebox, there's a cache or something; you need to restart the shell |
| 05:58.23 | rares000 | i'm getting gdk-warning from firefox and it refuses to load |
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| 05:58.34 | nevyn | _xeno: only if you create it. |
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| 06:00.10 | rares000 | Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib |
| 06:00.18 | _xeno | nevyn: So if you setup Debian with your user and root account people can't hack in? |
| 06:00.27 | rares000 | also ctrl-alt-f1-6 do not work |
| 06:00.56 | nevyn | _xeno: I didn't say that... |
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| 06:01.08 | _xeno | nevyn: I'm asking tho |
| 06:01.12 | lakcaj | nobley, couldn't you just use iptables, drop everything by default, and then just add the pages you want them to be able to access? |
| 06:01.15 | NaufraGo | hey |
| 06:01.24 | GillaGal | Any insight into why my machine no longer powers down after a shutdown? (APM BIOS support is a module in the 2.6 kernel) |
| 06:01.27 | NaufraGo | can I install mplayer on debian? |
| 06:01.33 | lakcaj | no |
| 06:01.46 | lakcaj | nobody that uses debian uses mplayer ;) |
| 06:02.05 | NaufraGo | is there any good video player for debian? |
| 06:02.06 | lakcaj | !tell NaufraGo about marillat |
| 06:02.09 | SerajewelKS | lakcaj: wrong |
| 06:02.14 | nevyn | lakcaj: no... that'd be in breach of international patent treaties |
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| 06:02.45 | NaufraGo | ok ok |
| 06:02.51 | TheBest | !tell thebest Install gui |
| 06:02.51 | lakcaj | mplayer, xine, and vlc are all worth a look. |
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| 06:03.08 | Guerin | TheBest: the gui isn't read for people who need a gui |
| 06:03.15 | Guerin | TheBest: the gui isn't ready for people who need a gui |
| 06:03.21 | nprice | anyone in here using banshee that can help me? |
| 06:03.24 | TheBest | !tell thebest about gui-pakege |
| 06:03.27 | SerajewelKS | !tell _xeno about securing debian |
| 06:03.34 | Guerin | TheBest: message the damn bot, also |
| 06:03.53 | SerajewelKS | !anyone use banshee |
| 06:03.53 | dpkg | No, no one uses banshee, not even the people who use it. |
| 06:03.54 | TheBest | maibie some others users help to |
| 06:04.00 | TheBest | gui install |
| 06:04.05 | TheBest | how i search ? |
| 06:04.31 | Guerin | TheBest: debian doesn't have a proper gui installer. /msg dpkg d-i |
| 06:04.39 | nevyn | _xeno: the only really secure system is one that's off.. (even then you might be able to read residual data off the screen or something silly if you were really dedicated) |
| 06:05.04 | nevyn | debian doesn't need a "proper" gui installer |
| 06:05.04 | TheBest | i have http://pastebin.ca/40676 Java Problem. |
| 06:05.15 | gravity | It'll have one for etch |
| 06:05.18 | nevyn | hell windows doesn't have a gui installer |
| 06:05.21 | TheBest | what is my problem then :(( |
| 06:05.29 | SerajewelKS | nevyn: the second phase does |
| 06:05.33 | lakcaj | I think he wants to install X11 |
| 06:05.43 | Guerin | TheBest: your problem is wanting to us ejava |
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| 06:05.53 | Guerin | !tell TheBest about set up x |
| 06:05.56 | TheBest | no java user help |
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| 06:06.06 | _xeno | nevyn: How effective is it to just leave the login up on a system versus hackers? If you could give like a 1-10 scale of 'difficulty' |
| 06:06.22 | TheBest | No X11 DISPLAY variable was set, but this program performed an operation which requires it. |
| 06:06.30 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: which login? xdm/kdm/gdm? sshd? |
| 06:06.32 | lakcaj | are you running the app as root? |
| 06:06.35 | blatch | 1, if you haven't done anything to physically secure the machine ;) |
| 06:06.37 | Guerin | _xeno: anyone who has physical access to a typical x86 machine can own it in under 30 seconds |
| 06:06.49 | blatch | Guerin: yup |
| 06:06.52 | Guerin | _xeno: so it's not really an issue to leave it at a login: prompt |
| 06:06.54 | blatch | has anyone used funambol? |
| 06:06.57 | lakcaj | TheBest, are you running the app as root? |
| 06:07.03 | Guerin | !anyone use funambol? |
| 06:07.03 | dpkg | No, no one uses funambol, not even the people who use it. |
| 06:07.30 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: textual login, i think bash? |
| 06:07.32 | blatch | that makes no sense to me at this point in time :P |
| 06:07.36 | benjamindees | iciclebox, hash -r does the same thing |
| 06:07.37 | _xeno | Guerin: How would they own a system so quickly? |
| 06:07.42 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: not problem if you keep the computer in a locked room |
| 06:07.43 | blatch | reboot it |
| 06:07.53 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: reboot and use a livecd/bootdisk |
| 06:07.57 | lakcaj | reboot with a knoppix CD in the drive |
| 06:08.08 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: If you password the bios and mobo? |
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| 06:08.18 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: then they open the case and remove the battery on the mobo |
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| 06:08.20 | lakcaj | pop out the cmos batter |
| 06:08.22 | blatch | then your box won't automatically restart |
| 06:08.23 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: lol |
| 06:08.30 | SerajewelKS | !lol |
| 06:08.31 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 06:08.32 | Guerin | _xeno: livecd, remove hdd, change bios settings, change bootloader settings ... any number of ways |
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| 06:08.59 | lakcaj | in any case, physical access = root access |
| 06:09.10 | blatch | wow that lol rule is very anal and quite funny. |
| 06:09.15 | Guerin | unless the box is extremely well locked down |
| 06:09.25 | Guerin | like, in a small windowless building with no network |
| 06:09.30 | _xeno | Guerin: Well I guess i should specifiy my question: How would they be able to get into the system without the use of livecd etc? |
| 06:09.34 | ke6isf | blatch: Well, it reflects the opinions of most of us. |
| 06:09.35 | blatch | or read the processor's thoughts with a microphone! |
| 06:09.36 | NaufraGo | so, wich is the best video player for debian? |
| 06:09.37 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: i'd worry more about what network services you're running. if you're running the server in an environment you trust, physical access is not a problem. |
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| 06:09.50 | blatch | ke6isf: yeah i know debian people are elitests blah blah. |
| 06:09.53 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: that's not a valid question |
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| 06:09.59 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: why not? |
| 06:10.01 | Guerin | _xeno: by knowing password, or by rebooting the machine and appending init=/bin/sh to the boot line in grub/lilo |
| 06:10.03 | lakcaj | NaufraGo, xine, mplayer, and vlc all have there following - try them all and see which you like |
| 06:10.14 | NaufraGo | mm |
| 06:10.15 | lakcaj | boot into singe user mode |
| 06:10.15 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: if they have physical access, console login is only one method of gaining access |
| 06:10.16 | NaufraGo | mplayer? |
| 06:10.20 | blatch | Guerin: that's usually my plan of attack :P |
| 06:10.29 | _xeno | Guerin: oh what the other ways asides login |
| 06:10.30 | NaufraGo | same people say me that mplayer isn't for debian |
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| 06:10.35 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: lock the box in a room. why are you so concerned anyway? |
| 06:10.35 | ke6isf | lakcaj: If they know the password. Usually that requires you to have the password, IIRC. |
| 06:10.36 | blatch | (when someone botches their computer that is) |
| 06:10.39 | Guerin | NaufraGo: all three mentioned above have their strneths - all have some files they play better, and others worse |
| 06:10.53 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: Just checking out the security of debian |
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| 06:11.01 | Guerin | I used to think mplayer was better than the others for format support, but I'd say it's not equal but different |
| 06:11.12 | lakcaj | ke6isf, you'd be surprised how many machines don't have single user mode disabled by default |
| 06:11.14 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: what, you expect the text-mode login to have gaping security holes? |
| 06:11.22 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: yeah |
| 06:11.26 | ke6isf | lakcaj: You'd likely be right. |
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| 06:11.44 | NaufraGo | I try to install them with apt-get, but it doesn't work |
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| 06:11.55 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: i really don't know what to say to that |
| 06:12.00 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: maybe i'm looking oto much into itl, the textual login is just a login and either you know user/pass or you dont |
| 06:12.05 | _xeno | right? |
| 06:12.09 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: right |
| 06:12.13 | Guerin | _xeno: methods of gaining access to a box are limited more by the imagination of the attacker than anything. |
| 06:12.16 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: thx |
| 06:12.19 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: look at your network services first |
| 06:12.25 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: how? |
| 06:12.35 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: did you read the securing debian manual? |
| 06:12.53 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: dpkg told you about it a while ago |
| 06:13.22 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: i work 10 hours a day and have a gf so manuals don't come in to the scene too often |
| 06:13.45 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: then you shouldn't be running a server |
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| 06:13.58 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: Its not a server its a how to learn linux machine |
| 06:14.10 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: and workstation |
| 06:14.12 | sigma | then RTFM and learn |
| 06:14.14 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: if you only want to learn linux then don't worry about security yet |
| 06:14.21 | SerajewelKS | _xeno: install and play |
| 06:14.26 | Guerin | _xeno: debian's stock install is very secure. |
| 06:14.38 | Guerin | _xeno: the only thing running by default in sarge is ssh |
| 06:14.40 | _xeno | SerajewelKS: ok :) |
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| 06:14.47 | _xeno | ssh? |
| 06:14.48 | nevyn | Guerin: not even. |
| 06:15.01 | SerajewelKS | !ssh |
| 06:15.01 | dpkg | ssh is probably Secure SHell, the ssh package in Debian is Portable OpenSSH (www.openssh.org) or for windows clients ask me about putty, or for mac clients ask me about niftytelnet or MacSSH. It's _unwise_ to enable both RSA and pasword authentication. Ask me about rsa, or ask about winscp for a GUI SCP client, or check out http://www.sf.net/projects/shellter for an iptables-based firewall with built-in ssh brute force protection |
| 06:15.04 | nevyn | _xeno: telnet but secure. |
| 06:15.14 | _xeno | nevyn: ahh |
| 06:15.15 | Guerin | nevyn: it is in sarge. |
| 06:15.25 | nevyn | Guerin: in base? |
| 06:15.39 | lakcaj | speaking of packages in sarge - where is cfdisk? |
| 06:15.50 | SerajewelKS | !find /cfdisk sarge |
| 06:15.50 | Guerin | !default install |
| 06:16.04 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/cfdisk' (3): (/sbin/cfdisk) in base/util-linux ;; (/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/IBM7248-HOWTO/cfdisk.html) in doc/doc-linux-html ;; (/sbin/cfdisk-utf8, /usr/share/doc/cfdisk-utf8/{changelog.Debian.gz|copyright}) in base/cfdisk-utf8. |
| 06:16.07 | sigma | apt-cache search cfdisk |
| 06:16.11 | SerajewelKS | lakcaj: there ^^ |
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| 06:16.19 | NaufraGo | what about noatun? (video player) |
| 06:16.22 | fuzza | hi all |
| 06:16.27 | Guerin | !default install is what you end up with if you stick an install cd in the drive, reboot, and mash enter until you get asked for a password |
| 06:16.27 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
| 06:16.36 | benjamindees | NaufraGo, it kind of sucks, try kmplayer |
| 06:16.47 | Guerin | nevyn: that's what I mean by 'default' |
| 06:16.49 | nevyn | Guerin: ah |
| 06:17.04 | chealer_ | Guerin: that excludes SSH though |
| 06:17.04 | lakcaj | SerajewelKS, on both my machines, one running sarge and the other sid, cfdisk can't be found |
| 06:17.05 | nevyn | mash enter.. never attempted that method of installatiohn |
| 06:17.12 | Guerin | chealer_: nope. |
| 06:17.33 | lakcaj | SerajewelKS, nm - I'm a retard |
| 06:17.37 | chealer_ | Guerin: why would SSH be installed? |
| 06:17.40 | Guerin | chealer_: the stock set of packages hauled in by aptitude if you select no tasks and nothing else includes ssh, and the daemon is run by default |
| 06:17.48 | fuzza | where can I find info on (re-)creating the install boot set used in sarge? I want to make a custom set (including modules) |
| 06:17.56 | fuzza | floppies, I mean |
| 06:17.59 | Guerin | chealer_: ask the people who wrote the install scripts; I personally think it's a fine idea. |
| 06:18.04 | chealer_ | Guerin: I don't think aptitude is run by default |
| 06:18.42 | Guerin | chealer_: you get tasksel, and nothing is selected, and if you quit out of it, aptitude runs and a basic set of stuff gets installed, like nano, less, ssh, etc. |
| 06:18.49 | Guerin | chealer_: i did this quite recently |
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| 06:19.29 | NaufraGo | what about bsplayer? |
| 06:19.44 | Guerin | nevyn: proprietary, windows-oonly |
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| 06:20.10 | chealer_ | Guerin: hum. and isn't desktop environment selected by default? |
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| 06:20.32 | NaufraGo | how is BSplayer?? |
| 06:20.39 | Guerin | chealer_: wasn't when I did it |
| 06:20.46 | Guerin | NaufraGo: shit, see above |
| 06:21.01 | chealer_ | Guerin: I'll try to pay attention next time I use d-i |
| 06:21.05 | poonj | hey guys |
| 06:21.14 | NaufraGo | so kmplayer better? |
| 06:21.19 | poonj | for gdm, which file do I edit so that I can add programs to load at startup? |
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| 06:21.49 | SerajewelKS | poonj: #gnome might know better |
| 06:21.54 | GillaGal | Any insight into why my machine no longer powers down after a shutdown? (APM BIOS support is a module in the 2.6 kernel) |
| 06:22.05 | NaufraGo | is kmplayer for debian??? |
| 06:22.11 | SerajewelKS | !ep NaufraGo |
| 06:22.12 | dpkg | NaufraGo: Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 06:22.13 | deadcat | poonj: none. you have to use .xsession and select the default session |
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| 06:22.22 | Supaplex | !tell SerajewelKS -about search |
| 06:22.29 | SerajewelKS | Supaplex: excuse me? |
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| 06:22.42 | nichos | Hi all, im using openoffice, and im trying to insert a file which spans multiple pages, i want to keep the file as an object, but oo.org doesnt want it to span many pages, any ideas? |
| 06:22.43 | lakcaj | poonj, go into desktop prefs -> sessions -> startup programs |
| 06:22.47 | Supaplex | SerajewelKS: read the message dpkg sent to you |
| 06:22.51 | lakcaj | poonj, in gnome |
| 06:22.54 | poonj | lakcaj: I tried that... |
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| 06:23.01 | NaufraGo | Guerin: is kmplayer for debian? |
| 06:23.02 | SerajewelKS | Supaplex: what the fuck? i didn't ask anything. |
| 06:23.09 | poonj | lakcaj: I'm trying to start irxevent for lirc....and when I do that...it takes FOREVER to boot up |
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| 06:23.17 | chealer_ | nichos: ask #debian-oo or #openoffice.org |
| 06:23.22 | nichos | ty |
| 06:23.24 | poonj | I don't know if its something with lirc or irxevent.. |
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| 06:23.26 | Supaplex | SerajewelKS: my bad, was for NaufraGo |
| 06:23.26 | lakcaj | poonj, you want something to start when you boot? |
| 06:23.30 | poonj | yeah |
| 06:23.35 | poonj | well, that program in particular |
| 06:23.45 | lakcaj | poonj, make an initscript in /etc/init.d and add it using update-rc.d |
| 06:23.47 | blatch | so what's the best way to do automatic updates in sarge? |
| 06:23.55 | poonj | lakcaj, it won't boot until I enter X |
| 06:23.56 | SerajewelKS | lakcaj: for a desktop program? |
| 06:23.58 | poonj | that program |
| 06:23.58 | lakcaj | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 06:24.20 | lakcaj | oh, didn't realize it was a gui program |
| 06:24.23 | blatch | lakcaj: that in and of itself is not automatic |
| 06:24.29 | noiesmo | NaufraGo, kmplayer is front end for mplayer mplayer is avaiable from deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main |
| 06:24.41 | lakcaj | blacke, cron job? |
| 06:25.00 | lakcaj | blatch, cron job? |
| 06:25.08 | SerajewelKS | blatch: why would you want automatic updates |
| 06:25.11 | NaufraGo | and, can I use apt-get to install mplayer by that url? |
| 06:25.12 | dob2 | why netbeans is not included in debian? |
| 06:25.25 | blatch | SerajewelKS: ... to patch security holes? |
| 06:25.27 | SerajewelKS | dob2: because it's a proprietary technology |
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| 06:25.37 | SerajewelKS | blatch: what if debconf needs to ask you something? |
| 06:25.38 | noiesmo | dob2, probably licence issue id imagine |
| 06:25.54 | blatch | i know, then i'd want it to background the process and send me an email |
| 06:25.59 | blatch | but i can't script that |
| 06:26.02 | blatch | (personally) |
| 06:26.27 | SerajewelKS | blatch: that's why you update manually. if you want, have it daily do 'apt-get update' and mail you the results of 'apt-get dist-upgrade -n' |
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| 06:26.56 | Gnea | 6/wp |
| 06:26.57 | blatch | well how would i put that in crontab |
| 06:26.58 | Gnea | weee |
| 06:27.08 | Azar | :) good evening Gnea |
| 06:27.11 | SerajewelKS | blatch: man 5 crontab |
| 06:27.23 | erikm | does anyone know how to build an ftp url that includes the username if there's an @ character in the username? ie ftp://user@example.com:password@www.example.com/dir1/file.txt |
| 06:27.27 | dob2 | there are other programs in debian that are not gpl, but at least there is an installer, just asking not complaining :) |
| 06:27.41 | erikm | I'm trying to do this with wput and the first @ screws it up |
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| 06:28.02 | Azar | dob2 Id google for each program I want with "programname" clone for Debian Linux |
| 06:28.05 | SerajewelKS | dob2: if it's not in debian it's probably because nobody cares enough to package it |
| 06:28.07 | blatch | i don't really want to read the entire crontab manual for one use that i need a quick solution for |
| 06:28.43 | darkpadden | erikm, user:pass@url |
| 06:28.45 | SerajewelKS | blatch: i don't really want to explain something to you that three minutes of RTFM will solve |
| 06:28.46 | TheBest | how i install X server ? |
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| 06:28.59 | SerajewelKS | TheBest: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 06:29.00 | noiesmo | dob2, this might help you build a deb package and add netbeans http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/java.jspx |
| 06:29.02 | TBBle | dob2: It's not a question of "not-GPL". It's a question of "not-free" with free in the sense of the DFSG. Sun's Java isn't free in that sense, and I dunno if anyone else has implemented NetBeans. |
| 06:29.07 | TheBest | or how i see have i haved Install X :) |
| 06:29.08 | blatch | don't explain it, type out what i should put after typing 'crontab -e' |
| 06:29.09 | Azar | dob2 however there are cool packages in Debian but be careful: not all are accessible from the stable version Sarge, some will only work with testing or unstable |
| 06:29.12 | erikm | darkpadden: does it make sense though that "user" is "username@example.com"? |
| 06:29.15 | blatch | :P |
| 06:29.24 | SerajewelKS | blatch: exactly. man 5 crontab and all will be clear. |
| 06:29.28 | erikm | it doesn't work if I omit the "@example.com" |
| 06:29.30 | TheBest | SerajewelKS i do theat long time ago Few hours :) ago |
| 06:29.37 | SerajewelKS | blatch: as a server admin you should be familiar with cron anyway |
| 06:29.41 | TheBest | No X11 DISPLAY variable was set, but this program performed an operation which requires it. |
| 06:29.52 | SerajewelKS | TheBest: is X running? |
| 06:29.56 | Azar | Sun's OpenOffice offers only a demo |
| 06:29.58 | blatch | not when i'm stoned at it's 1:30 in the morning |
| 06:30.04 | darkpadden | erikm, yep but some sites don't have passwords set up. but ive allways used that format for getting into myown servers |
| 06:31.09 | dob2 | thanks for the answers |
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| 06:31.49 | TheBest | how i finde Out HAVE i run X on my machine ? |
| 06:32.06 | SerajewelKS | TheBest: startx |
| 06:32.07 | TheBest | SerajewelKS on ps axu i dont see no X proces |
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| 06:32.48 | TheBest | yes |
| 06:32.53 | TheBest | starx Working :) |
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| 06:33.46 | poonj | deadcat: is .Xsession just a bash script? |
| 06:33.57 | streuner | no |
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| 06:34.02 | SerajewelKS | poonj: shell script, more properly |
| 06:34.06 | TheBest | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable. |
| 06:34.13 | TheBest | need IP localhost ? |
| 06:34.13 | poonj | okay |
| 06:34.20 | Supaplex | TheBest: or, man which, whereis, apropos etc |
| 06:34.23 | poonj | its located in my home directory..hopefully its read.. |
| 06:34.39 | TheBest | export DISPLAY=SERVERIP:0.0 |
| 06:34.40 | mhall | TheBest: i have * A LOT * of problems when i use 0.0 instead of 0 |
| 06:34.49 | mhall | TheBest: i don't understand why |
| 06:34.54 | mhall | TheBest: :0 usu. works |
| 06:35.08 | mhall | TheBest: also you'll need to do man xhost |
| 06:35.20 | erikm | solved: I used a # instead of @ in my ftp username! |
| 06:35.26 | agabus | is there a netinstall ISO for using testing? |
| 06:35.27 | erikm | that worked |
| 06:35.41 | SerajewelKS | agabus: use the sarge netinstall in expert mode |
| 06:35.52 | Supaplex | !xhost |
| 06:35.52 | dpkg | hmm... xhost is EVIL! Ask me about mit-magic-cookie, or read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz before even thinking about using the "xhost" command. Ask me about "sshx", or "nolisten" if you're mule-headed, or "apt-cache show xbase-clients | grep xhost" will tell you "xhost, a very dangerous program that you should never use" You should use ssh X11 forwarding instead. use sux instead of su |
| 06:35.58 | TheBest | i think i configure X rong when he ask me about VIDEO card ... |
| 06:35.59 | SerajewelKS | agabus: when it configures apt it will ask you stable/testing/unstable |
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| 06:36.23 | agabus | SerajewelKS - k, how do I get into expert mode? |
| 06:36.55 | TheBest | export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 06:37.02 | chealer_ | agabus: yes |
| 06:37.07 | chealer_ | !d-i |
| 06:37.07 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 06:37.13 | strider | agabus: there is an etch netinstall |
| 06:37.17 | TheBest | java -jar Whist-Online.jar |
| 06:37.17 | TheBest | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable. |
| 06:37.28 | mhall | TheBest: xauth |
| 06:37.29 | Supaplex | TheBest: you did see what dpkg said above about xhost right? |
| 06:37.29 | mhall | TheBest: xauth |
| 06:37.32 | agabus | strider - etch being debian testing? |
| 06:37.43 | mhall | TheBest: you need to try man xhost |
| 06:37.48 | TheBest | Using authority file /root/.Xauthority |
| 06:37.48 | TheBest | xauth> |
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| 06:38.32 | strider | agabus: yes, see what dpkg has said above |
| 06:38.33 | Azar | agabus, Debian 3.1 aka Sarge = stable Etch = testing Sid = unstable |
| 06:38.41 | Supaplex | but xhost and xauth are not secure, use ssh tunneling or some other way |
| 06:38.55 | mhall | Supaplex: i think he's doing localhost |
| 06:39.07 | agabus | strider - on http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ is that for testing or unstable |
| 06:39.08 | Supaplex | then sux |
| 06:39.15 | mortalman | When I first install debian it gives me an otion to detect hardware for setting up X. I've recently changed graphics cards. How would I go about getting it to auto-detect again? |
| 06:39.22 | TheBest | show me the command then :) |
| 06:39.40 | strider | agabus: it's metioned on the page :) |
| 06:39.51 | Azar | mortalman: are you using xorg or xfree86 ? |
| 06:39.54 | agabus | strider - yeah sorry just noticed ay. thanks |
| 06:40.00 | mortalman | Azar: xfree86 |
| 06:40.23 | Azar | mortalman: reconfigure X: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 06:40.25 | chealer_ | !drxx mortalman |
| 06:40.25 | dpkg | mortalman: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 06:40.42 | Supaplex | TheBest: su, then clone a copy of the DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY from ~user/.xauthority iirc |
| 06:41.23 | mortalman | Azar: actualy, just got it to go back to the auto detect by purging the config files and it wasn't able to find my card so I'm gonna have to mess with it a bit by hand. thanks anyway. |
| 06:41.51 | Supaplex | oh, it's in $XAUTHORITY, usualy $HOME/.Xauthority (capital X heh) |
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| 06:42.20 | Supaplex | so much for screen mhall ;) |
| 06:42.31 | mortalman | What's the package names for xorg cause apt-cache can't find it. |
| 06:42.33 | mortalman | ? |
| 06:42.41 | TheBest | JAVA ERROR http://pastebin.ca/40679 |
| 06:43.12 | Supaplex | what, debian runs on java now? since when? |
| 06:43.22 | Supaplex | ;) |
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| 06:43.49 | chealer_ | mortalman: which release do you run? |
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| 06:44.05 | mortalman | chealer_: sarge |
| 06:44.15 | chealer_ | mortalman: there is no X.org package in Sarge |
| 06:44.21 | yos87 | BY |
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| 06:44.24 | TheBest | Supaplex is Nothing theer on xauthority file. |
| 06:44.33 | yos87_2 | by |
| 06:44.35 | mortalman | chealer_: that would explain it. |
| 06:44.46 | Supaplex | TheBest: echo $XAUTHORITY ? |
| 06:44.50 | mortalman | chealer_: Why are people refering to packages in testing ? |
| 06:45.12 | TheBest | rcxnet:/home/rcxnet# echo $XAUTHORITY |
| 06:45.13 | TheBest | rcxnet:/home/rcxnet# |
| 06:45.46 | Supaplex | TheBest: no idea. I've been up for like two days now :P |
| 06:45.56 | TheBest | me 2 :( |
| 06:46.01 | TheBest | sleepy |
| 06:46.25 | Supaplex | heh, I passed sleepy hours ago |
| 06:46.27 | chealer_ | mortalman: because some people use testing? |
| 06:46.38 | PTM | good morning #debian |
| 06:46.55 | Supaplex | mortalman: because it wasn't frozen into sarge when that time came, so naturally it won't be available in sarge |
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| 06:47.25 | TBBle | d |
| 06:47.26 | mortalman | Weird, but then again, people use windows too. |
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| 06:48.44 | Supaplex | mortalman: yes. which would suck more if I wasn't able to fire up qemu to answer nonsense questions about it :) (tech support) |
| 06:48.44 | TheBest | hmm i think i finde startx Dont whant 0:0 |
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| 06:49.03 | james_ | can someone help me to install conky? |
| 06:49.17 | Supaplex | james_: conky? huh? |
| 06:49.19 | TheBest | http://pastebin.ca/40681 X no start |
| 06:49.35 | streuner | !info conky |
| 06:49.37 | dpkg | conky: (highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1.1 (sid), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 296 kB |
| 06:49.53 | deadcat | conky sucks |
| 06:49.56 | deadcat | that shit fuck software |
| 06:50.03 | streuner | james_: so what's that hard to install it? |
| 06:50.04 | james_ | how |
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| 06:50.12 | james_ | i can't apt-get it |
| 06:50.17 | deadcat | james_: bullshit |
| 06:50.21 | streuner | james_: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
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| 06:50.39 | james_ | i am using debian sarge |
| 06:50.48 | streuner | !info conky sarge |
| 06:51.01 | deadcat | james_: you can get the etch package. pretty sure it will work. |
| 06:51.16 | streuner | james_: or /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 06:51.17 | agabus | will the debian installer configure grub to have my Windows partition bootable after my fresh install? |
| 06:51.27 | deadcat | agabus: yes |
| 06:51.34 | agabus | deadcat - k. thanks |
| 06:51.34 | streuner | james_: check out backports too (/msg dpkg backports) |
| 06:51.55 | james_ | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 06:51.55 | james_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.30 | james_ | how do I check backports (i am not very good with debian)? |
| 06:52.45 | streuner | !tell james_ about backports |
| 06:53.00 | Azar | mortalman, Sarge provides the usual activities like word processing, calculations, music, games, irc, browsing, mail... for any "conky" and other extra gadgets, one can go up in testing and sweat installing and configuring those |
| 06:53.38 | Supaplex | you're better off backporting for just a handfull of things usually :) |
| 06:54.08 | james_ | !tell james_ about backports |
| 06:54.11 | james_ | ?? |
| 06:54.26 | james_ | well.. |
| 06:54.34 | Supaplex | read your pm |
| 06:54.38 | deadcat | james_: check your message. |
| 06:54.42 | deadcat | well... |
| 06:54.47 | james_ | ooh oops |
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| 06:55.03 | streuner | dpkg, backports |
| 06:55.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 06:55.10 | Azar | irssi does not have sound for pm ... well ... |
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| 06:55.33 | Supaplex | it highlights the window number in your status bar |
| 06:55.44 | asperon-work | i am trying to get my intel 910gl and my philips 170b monitor to play well under x.org, but no matter what i do i cant get the image to stop flickering |
| 06:55.46 | Azar | Supaplex: yep I often omit to notice it |
| 06:55.53 | asperon-work | this is under debian unstable |
| 06:56.06 | asperon-work | does anybody have any tips? is there anything i am missing? |
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| 06:56.13 | Azar | asperon-work: so is your monitor then... unstable |
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| 06:56.38 | asperon-work | Azar: its crystal sharp under xp, so there must be something wrong with the settings somewhere?! |
| 06:56.50 | Azar | asperon-work: sorry I was joking, there is work to fix it but I do not know how |
| 06:56.53 | deadcat | asperon-work: its linux. what you expect |
| 06:57.09 | asperon-work | Azar: ok =) |
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| 06:57.17 | asperon-work | deadcat: that it would work like a charm? |
| 06:57.19 | Azar | asperon-work: if you were running stable with xfree86 it will be ok |
| 06:57.31 | deadcat | asperon-work: you wish... |
| 06:57.35 | Azar | *would be ok |
| 06:57.41 | deadcat | SHOULD be ok |
| 06:57.59 | deadcat | didnt you get the memo? "if it breaks, you get to keep both half" |
| 06:58.08 | Azar | deadcat, it is allways ok under sarge with xfree86 |
| 06:58.16 | asperon-work | Azar: that doesn't feel like an option really, and since its not sure it would work better under stable, or? |
| 06:58.22 | deadcat | Azar: he has weird card or monitor. maybe |
| 06:58.36 | Azar | deadcat: ah I see.. |
| 06:58.57 | Azar | in unstable everything runs at your own risk |
| 06:59.03 | asperon-work | deadcat: is the philips 170b weird? guess i could replace the monitor, but then again, is that really an solution |
| 06:59.10 | asperon-work | Azar: yes, i understand that |
| 06:59.22 | deadcat | asperon-work: what video card? |
| 06:59.27 | NaufraGo | how can I install the latest version of a package? |
| 06:59.28 | Azar | asperon-work: holdon I have something here |
| 06:59.31 | deadcat | and post your x config somewhere |
| 06:59.31 | NaufraGo | with apt-get |
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| 07:01.01 | agabus | will i have to manually partition my hard-disc to multi-boot with my Windows partition or will the debian installer (testing) be able to take care of it for me? |
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| 07:01.20 | Supaplex | dZen|n|: and I thought comcast had dns spam. geeez :P |
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| 07:02.19 | Supaplex | agabus: Check wiki.debian.org |
| 07:02.38 | dondelelcaro | agabus: yes, it will take care of it for you |
| 07:02.40 | asperon-work | deadcat: intel 910gl |
| 07:02.47 | asperon-work | http://pastebin.com/544592 <-- thats my x config |
| 07:03.17 | agabus | Supaplex - k i'll check it out. |
| 07:03.17 | agabus | dondelelcaro - cool |
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| 07:04.11 | deadcat | asperon-work: try diff video driver maybe. |
| 07:04.36 | deadcat | whats a good xorg driver for "Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller" ? |
| 07:04.53 | deadcat | asperon-work is using vesa right now and his monitor flickers like a little bitch |
| 07:05.27 | asperon-work | deadcat: i think i tried the i810 to, but ill give that another shot |
| 07:05.35 | deadcat | asperon-work: have you tried setting the refresh rate to 60 or something? |
| 07:05.53 | Azar | bah I used to have an old manual about how to fix monitors resolutions and stuff.. |
| 07:06.01 | Azar | too many manuals got lost in there |
| 07:06.21 | james_ | !tell james_ about simple sid backport |
| 07:06.41 | cheal | !tell james_ about selftell |
| 07:06.45 | asperon-work | deadcat: no, ill try that to, since its an lcd that might acctually be a good idea |
| 07:07.07 | Azar | did you tried snap? |
| 07:07.08 | james_ | sorry |
| 07:07.32 | Azar | snap is a multi-chipset graphics driver |
| 07:07.54 | Azar | supports phillips as well |
| 07:07.58 | deadcat | asperon-work: dpkg-reconfigure has an option asking about LCD, you might want to select that too. if that dont work. i dont know. |
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| 07:08.30 | asperon-work | deadcat: it has? i must somehow have missed that, since i have run it a couple of times |
| 07:08.32 | james_ | do you guys use sarge or sid? |
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| 07:08.56 | deadcat | james_: 33% sarge 33% etch 33% sid |
| 07:09.00 | asperon-work | well, thnx for your help, need to go to a meeting, ill give this a shot after that, if it doesn't work i guess ill be back later on |
| 07:09.02 | Azar | I use sarge |
| 07:09.04 | cheal | james_: people use several releases, and out of those choices |
| 07:09.06 | deadcat | and the 1% is ubuntu |
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| 07:09.18 | deadcat | but we dont help them |
| 07:09.51 | james_ | i don't get the backport maybe i should switch to sid |
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| 07:10.21 | cheal | james_: unlikely |
| 07:10.50 | Supaplex | deadcat: no experimental? ;) |
| 07:10.54 | deadcat | james_: if you dont get that. sid's gonna fuck you up. and you will be back bitching |
| 07:10.58 | deadcat | Supaplex: oops (= |
| 07:11.08 | deadcat | Supaplex: they on there own. hehe |
| 07:11.13 | Supaplex | yup! |
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| 07:11.33 | Supaplex | deadcat: but we won't send them out with a pitchfork (unlike debian ripoffs) |
| 07:11.33 | deadcat | Supaplex: if you use experimental and fucks you. you fucking deserve it (= |
| 07:11.44 | Supaplex | oh yeh |
| 07:12.02 | Azar | deadcat: http://www.scitechsoft.com/products/ent/snap_main.html |
| 07:12.17 | james_ | oh |
| 07:12.17 | Azar | experimental is wild sex |
| 07:12.23 | deadcat | hahah |
| 07:12.45 | Supaplex | it's like a tripple bypass on a bun |
| 07:12.58 | deadcat | Supaplex: nice (= |
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| 07:14.03 | valdyn | - |
| 07:14.13 | Supaplex | invalid paramater |
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| 07:14.52 | james_ | does any of you use xfce? i found it very simple |
| 07:15.05 | Supaplex | it gets the job done |
| 07:15.10 | deadcat | damn ups didnt deliver my dvd burner. )= 3 days my ass. they pissed me off by leaving my laser printer on the door step last time. |
| 07:15.19 | deadcat | james_: then install it. |
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| 07:16.46 | cheal | james_: it's very likely that software in Debian is used by someone. |
| 07:17.14 | Supaplex | cheal: nawe, it's just there for the package maintainers and bug reporters. </smirk> |
| 07:17.21 | ootput | james_: :) |
| 07:17.31 | Supaplex | oh, and to harass upstream |
| 07:18.08 | NaufraGo | hey. how can I install firefox by apt-get ???? |
| 07:18.15 | deadcat | NaufraGo: guess |
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| 07:18.38 | deadcat | NaufraGo: you typed the entire command already. just put it together |
| 07:18.48 | tarzeau | deadcat: not for stable |
| 07:18.54 | deadcat | tarzeau: true |
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| 07:19.01 | deadcat | tarzeau: maybe hes using experimental (= |
| 07:19.02 | Supaplex | NaufraGo: it's open book. http://wiki.debian.org |
| 07:19.05 | deadcat | hahahah |
| 07:19.09 | tarzeau | deadcat: was it renamed again? |
| 07:19.13 | NaufraGo | apt-get install firefox, doesn't work |
| 07:19.19 | ootput | moz |
| 07:19.30 | deadcat | NaufraGo: mozilla-firefox in stable |
| 07:19.44 | cheal | Supaplex: yeah, and maybe to flood Martin Sculze a little bit more too |
| 07:19.45 | deadcat | wiki.debian.org new? |
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| 07:20.01 | deadcat | hmm. i didnt get the memo |
| 07:20.05 | poonj | deadcat: I dn't think I setup .Xsession correctly.. |
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| 07:20.10 | ootput | not really |
| 07:20.20 | poonj | is that the only way to start something using gdm at bootup from a script? |
| 07:20.24 | ootput | it's a shame about the current state of planetdebian |
| 07:20.26 | Supaplex | cheal: ok, what'd i do now... |
| 07:20.52 | deadcat | poonj: thats the easy way. unless you look through the gnome stuff and do it their way |
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| 07:21.18 | NaufraGo | I installed tuxracer but it didn't work |
| 07:21.29 | deadcat | NaufraGo: you dont have opengl maybe |
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| 07:21.43 | NaufraGo | do I have to install it? |
| 07:22.08 | Supaplex | deps should have taken care of some of that |
| 07:22.26 | deadcat | poonj: run every program with app &, the last line should be exec gnome-session. i think that should work. i dont know. i have gnome-session on my MANAGER list but it will never get to it (= |
| 07:22.27 | Supaplex | but... if your card doesn't support it. *eh* sol |
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| 07:22.32 | _joey | I have installed usb pci card on sarge, it detects the card , I connected external usb drive but I can't find the device for this hdd under /dev . what could it be ? |
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| 07:22.43 | _joey | it used to be on /dev/sda1 |
| 07:22.49 | deadcat | NaufraGo: what card you have? you using stable right? |
| 07:22.54 | _joey | when connected directly to built-in usb |
| 07:23.01 | NaufraGo | it's VIA |
| 07:23.08 | deadcat | no clue what that is |
| 07:23.19 | Supaplex | _joey: do you have usb-storage loaded? check /proc/partitions to, or dmesg | tail |
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| 07:24.00 | _joey | Supaplex yes |
| 07:24.06 | NaufraGo | I've tried to run a pendrive by here, debian, but I couldn't |
| 07:24.17 | _joey | Supaplex I have usb-storage loaded |
| 07:24.55 | Azar | NaufraGo: if you type lspci you can see and write down what hardware you have |
| 07:25.28 | Supaplex | _joey: anything usefull in /proc/partitions? sometimes the entire drive is the filesystem (no partition table). or in my case, it's a fancy 128mb stick of junk |
| 07:25.30 | Azar | NaufraGo: then when you come asking here you describe your system hardware correctly, what debian version and what kernel version you have |
| 07:25.42 | _joey | 3 0 19551168 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc 5348 6336 92482 26690 1405 2595 32056 90660 -2 1160890 41298132 |
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| 07:25.50 | NaufraGo | ok |
| 07:25.57 | _joey | I think this could be it, Supaplex |
| 07:26.09 | NaufraGo | how can I see my kernel's version? |
| 07:26.18 | Supaplex | _joey: that looks like a harddisk. look for scsi/ ... |
| 07:26.20 | Azar | NaufraGo: by typing uname -a |
| 07:26.32 | NaufraGo | ok.. |
| 07:26.37 | _joey | looked everywhere |
| 07:26.44 | _joey | it's not scsci, it's usb |
| 07:27.15 | Supaplex | _joey: yes, and the usb-storage driver uses the scsi subsystem to connect it all |
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| 07:28.06 | NaufraGo | my debian's version is 3.1-r1 ... my video card I guess is VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video (rev 01) ........... and my kernel's version is 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 07:28.21 | poli | hello all... I have found a peculiar situation. I seem to be unable to mount /dev/hdc1 or any other partition on hdc receiving the error: mount: /dev/hdc1 already mounted or /mnt/tmp2 busy |
| 07:28.27 | Azar | NaufraGo: for example one comes with a video question here and says: Hi I am using Debian stable with a video GeForce MX 4000 currently running xfree86 X server , also running kernel 2.6.x. - my X won't start |
| 07:28.31 | Supaplex | NaufraGo: so it's S3, which has no GPU from what I guess... |
| 07:28.35 | poli | The fact is that neither /dev/hdc1 is mounted not /mnt/tmp2 is busy... Any ideas? |
| 07:28.45 | _joey | Supaplex scsi_mod 86052 2 [usb-storage sd_mod ide-scsi] |
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| 07:28.51 | Azar | S3 works |
| 07:29.01 | Azar | I helped someone two days ago with it |
| 07:29.01 | NaufraGo | so? |
| 07:29.01 | Supaplex | cool |
| 07:29.12 | Plushy | hi folks, how to change mac address on dhcp interface? |
| 07:29.17 | sanxiyn | NaufraGo: s3 |
| 07:29.19 | Supaplex | software rendering? |
| 07:29.19 | NaufraGo | it means that I can run tuxracer? |
| 07:29.27 | sanxiyn | NaufraGo: Well yes? |
| 07:29.32 | poli | Plushy: apt-get install macchanger |
| 07:29.34 | Azar | NaufraGo: first you will want to upgrade your kernel for better hardware support |
| 07:29.44 | Azar | NaufraGo: what cpu ? |
| 07:29.48 | sanxiyn | Azar: Really? |
| 07:30.11 | NaufraGo | cpu, what do you mean? |
| 07:30.16 | NaufraGo | I'm new at this |
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| 07:30.22 | Azar | NaufraGo: INTEL or AMD |
| 07:30.28 | NaufraGo | intel |
| 07:30.37 | NaufraGo | p IV |
| 07:30.45 | Azar | NaufraGo: playing the dentist now tell me more: |
| 07:30.47 | Azar | ah ok |
| 07:30.48 | Supaplex | Azar: cyrux instead -- ahhh! run! :P |
| 07:30.57 | NaufraGo | 2.8Ggz |
| 07:31.00 | Azar | cyrux? |
| 07:31.01 | Plushy | Poli> I can't run apt-get because I can't get the network to run |
| 07:31.05 | NaufraGo | 512MB RAM |
| 07:31.10 | Azar | who said cyrux? he said pentium PIV |
| 07:31.20 | Supaplex | Azar: erm cyrix :P (I'm teasing) |
| 07:31.23 | NaufraGo | Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) |
| 07:31.27 | Azar | :) ah |
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| 07:31.39 | poli | Plushy: check if you already have it installed or get it on a disk and dpkg -i the file. |
| 07:31.40 | sanxiyn | NaufraGo: What's the problem? |
| 07:31.43 | Supaplex | and half awake |
| 07:31.45 | Azar | Nau, I have same VIA chipset is good |
| 07:31.50 | gqret | hello,how do I go about setting up a static ip? |
| 07:31.51 | NaufraGo | I couldn't run tuxracer |
| 07:31.53 | Supaplex | !caffinate me |
| 07:32.00 | Supaplex | yesss! |
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| 07:32.09 | Azar | NaufraGo: sanxiyn is better than me he can help you with tuxracer |
| 07:32.18 | sanxiyn | Azar: NOOOO! |
| 07:32.31 | Azar | too late sanxiyn please help him |
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| 07:32.35 | weissi | gqret: set it in /etc/network/interfaces, read `man interfaces`, if you have further questions: ask here... |
| 07:32.37 | _joey | Supaplex can't find the device, I tried all devices from sda1 to sdh1 |
| 07:32.43 | _joey | 1.2.3.4 |
| 07:32.50 | gqret | thanks weissi |
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| 07:33.11 | Plushy | Poli> hmmm okay, any other method? may be temporary, like some command |
| 07:33.17 | Azar | NaufraGo: ok let's get it slowly: a higher kernel will help you more and is easy to install this way you get more support |
| 07:33.22 | Supaplex | _joey: are you sure it has a partition table? try file -s /dev/sd[a-h] |
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| 07:34.22 | poli | Plushy: no, that's it. You need a program to do that, and that is your program. By the way, it only lasts until your next boot, so you'd better get a init script if you need it every time. |
| 07:34.24 | Azar | NaufraGo: are you still here? I need go bathroom and instead I am waiting for a reply like an idiot |
| 07:34.44 | _joey | Supaplex absolutely sure |
| 07:34.48 | Azar | wayy ok im out |
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| 07:34.59 | _joey | reiserfs on entire disk I can use it on another usb controller |
| 07:35.17 | Supaplex | _joey: I'd remove and reinsert it, while monitoring syslog |
| 07:35.18 | Azar | sanxiyn: next time take over please |
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| 07:35.44 | Plushy | Poli> so the prog does same as ifconfig eth0 hw xxxxxxxxxx ? |
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| 07:36.11 | poli | Plushy: if it works, use it. I never heard of ifconfig being able to do that before. |
| 07:36.35 | NaufraGo | how can I uninstall a package? |
| 07:36.41 | NaufraGo | by apt-get |
| 07:36.42 | Supaplex | ifconfig won't change the mac. i'd be delighted to learn otherwise (and how) |
| 07:36.45 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 07:36.45 | dpkg | i guess qotd99 is <t-jack> I have a 17-inch dysfunctional $Piece_Of_Hardware... |
| 07:36.54 | Supaplex | NaufraGo: the all knowing man page will tell you |
| 07:37.03 | poli | NaufraGo: apt-get remove <package> or apt-get remove --purge <package> if you want even the config files to be removed. |
| 07:37.31 | poli | Supaplex: me too, by the way. |
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| 07:37.43 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 07:38.06 | Plushy | Poli> it is able, it can change the mac address, but I can't seem to get the network running after that |
| 07:38.41 | _joey | Supaplex what would you remove and reinsert ? |
| 07:38.46 | _joey | the cable ? |
| 07:38.47 | Supaplex | Plushy: I think you have to change the mac address before you pull it UP. why do you need a different mac address anyway? |
| 07:39.06 | NaufraGo | my gosh.. |
| 07:39.25 | Supaplex | _joey: the device you're trying to use |
| 07:39.32 | NaufraGo | I can't find mozilla 1.7.x themes |
| 07:40.03 | _joey | the device ? The hdd ? |
| 07:40.07 | _joey | or the module ? |
| 07:40.31 | Supaplex | _joey: it's a memory stick ins't it? |
| 07:40.32 | poli | Supaplex: macchanger changes it "hot". I doubt ifconfig can do that. |
| 07:40.36 | poli | Supaplex: (at all) |
| 07:40.45 | _joey | Supaplex it's ide hdd |
| 07:40.45 | Plushy | Well my ISP forces me to use their NIC, but it never worked I reported it so they gave me another whic didn't work either, so now I change the MAC on my second card to match that one they gave me |
| 07:40.55 | _joey | in external enclosure |
| 07:41.31 | Supaplex | Plushy: I see. quite the pita they be. |
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| 07:41.50 | weissi | Plushy: ifconfig is able to change mac! |
| 07:41.56 | Supaplex | _joey: unplug the usb cable at the enclosure |
| 07:42.02 | NaufraGo | hey |
| 07:42.17 | Plushy | Anyways I do ifconfig eth0 down, ifconfig eth0 hw ether [...], ifconfig eth0 up |
| 07:42.24 | Plushy | but the network won't work |
| 07:42.25 | NaufraGo | how can I install the amsn's latest version by apt-get? |
| 07:42.35 | NaufraGo | it installs the 0.94 version |
| 07:42.42 | poli | any ideas why mount says mount: /dev/hdc1 already mounted or tempnew/ busy when neither /dev/hdc1 is mounted nor tempnew/ is busy? |
| 07:42.50 | weissi | Plushy: and before the mac-change it works? |
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| 07:43.37 | NaufraGo | can anybody help me? |
| 07:44.22 | weissi | NaufraGo: I don't think #debian is good for asking for mozilla themes |
| 07:44.33 | weissi | NaufraGo: try e.g. #mozilla |
| 07:44.35 | NaufraGo | ok |
| 07:44.39 | poli | NaufraGo: yes, we can. If you are using Sarge, which I guess you are, the version of the package shipping with it is 0.94, and that's about it. If you need a newer version, you might have to use the package from another version or a backport. |
| 07:44.39 | Plushy | Yes it does, after that if I try to ping it says network unaviable (or something like tat) |
| 07:45.05 | weissi | Plushy: weird, for me it worked excelently |
| 07:45.45 | poli | weissi: we need to remember that the driver has to support mac changing in the first place... |
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| 07:46.11 | poli | Plushy: and did you remember to put he ether <MAC> ? |
| 07:46.24 | poli | Plushy: * hw ether <MAC> |
| 07:46.24 | Plushy | Yes I did remember |
| 07:46.33 | weissi | poli: yep, there you're right! |
| 07:46.41 | weissi | Plushy: what driver/card is it? |
| 07:46.54 | Plushy | some built in SISTEK |
| 07:47.04 | Plushy | *built-in |
| 07:47.16 | poli | Plushy: dmesg is your friend.... give us some more information. |
| 07:47.30 | NaufraGo | can I install xine by apt-get? |
| 07:47.37 | Supaplex | !paste |
| 07:47.37 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 07:47.46 | cheal | NaufraGo: yes |
| 07:48.25 | weissi | Plushy: and what kernel mod do you use? |
| 07:48.25 | poli | Supaplex: very well thought :) |
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| 07:48.36 | aris | hi |
| 07:49.02 | Plushy | weissi> I'm trying to install using the debian net install iso |
| 07:49.30 | weissi | Plushy: ok, but which driver supports this nic? |
| 07:49.39 | kijjaz-chaos | lo.. newbie question: i've got perl: warning: Setting locale failed. during apt-get.. how do i reconfigure to solve the problem? |
| 07:50.02 | cheal | !tell kijjaz-chaos about locales |
| 07:50.21 | aris | any link for openvpn implemented in debian |
| 07:50.21 | aris | ? |
| 07:50.43 | Plushy | I don't know, how can I check it? |
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| 07:52.29 | weissi | plushy: do `lsmod` and send the output in #flood |
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| 07:53.21 | Plushy | lsmod under linux? no way I can post that |
| 07:53.44 | weissi | Plushy: ah ok |
| 07:53.49 | NaufraGo | how can install xine by apt-get? |
| 07:53.57 | Supaplex | !tell Plushy about paste |
| 07:54.11 | weissi | Supaplex: I think he knows! |
| 07:54.14 | dren_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:54.16 | sanxiyn | NaufraGo: apt-get install xine-ui |
| 07:54.22 | sanxiyn | NaufraGo: For some reason, it's *not* named xine. |
| 07:54.30 | Doctor | hmm is it permissions for the file or for the dir that dictate whether or not I can delete something? |
| 07:54.41 | Supaplex | k :) |
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| 07:54.58 | weissi | Plushy: hmm, how many entries do you have there? (is there a tulip or a 8139too) |
| 07:55.02 | Supaplex | Doctor: directory |
| 07:55.33 | ice_1963 | if your running gnome it's gxine |
| 07:55.35 | sanxiyn | Doctor: dir write perm |
| 07:55.36 | NaufraGo | hey, I installed ALSA, and it "desconfigured" /dev/dsp |
| 07:56.01 | Plushy | entries? like how many interfaces? |
| 07:56.24 | weissi | Plushy: now, lsmod shows you the loaded kernel modules (drivers), each line is one |
| 07:56.27 | sanxiyn | Plushy: How many lines do you get when you type lsmod. |
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| 07:57.03 | NaufraGo | do you recommend me install xine? |
| 07:57.15 | NaufraGo | or is there any better video player? |
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| 07:58.28 | sep | !better |
| 07:58.28 | dpkg | somebody said better was a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
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| 07:58.47 | sep | NaufraGo, xine or vlc |
| 07:58.49 | fsd | im having error's with my sound device ? |
| 07:58.55 | NaufraGo | ok |
| 07:59.00 | Plushy | weissi> I'm currently on windows, to check that I would have to reboot which means I would be back in 10 minutes or so, will you remember me? |
| 07:59.03 | NaufraGo | does xine need alsa? |
| 07:59.12 | fsd | ? |
| 07:59.17 | weissi | Plushy: ahh, I found a better way: enter `cat /proc/ioports | less` then search for your network controller(e.g. "Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139"), in the line after that (a bit indented), you will find the driver name of your nic(e.g. "tulip") |
| 07:59.47 | NaufraGo | or does I need a special video card for xine? |
| 07:59.57 | sep | NaufraGo, nly if you like sound in your videos |
| 08:00.01 | sep | !alsa |
| 08:00.01 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 08:00.02 | weissi | Plushy: ah thats bad, but otherwise, you won't be able to do that... |
| 08:00.21 | weissi | Plushy: ok, I will still be here... |
| 08:00.34 | Plushy | k |
| 08:00.52 | weissi | Plushy: did you get that with the `cat /proc/ioports | less` thing? |
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| 08:01.58 | iciclebox | after I put a file in one of the directory in PATH, how do I tell my system to recognize its presence? |
| 08:02.43 | sep | iciclebox, if it is in path it will be detected already. the file must have execute rights naturally. |
| 08:04.10 | iciclebox | sep: thank you |
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| 08:05.03 | NaufraGo | will libcurl alter my sound device? |
| 08:05.43 | NaufraGo | or not? |
| 08:05.49 | iciclebox | how do I run an application in the background? |
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| 08:07.27 | postel | iciclebox: app-name& |
| 08:07.33 | iciclebox | postel: thank you |
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| 08:07.48 | postel | iciclebox: or ctr+z and type bg |
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| 08:09.09 | iciclebox | postel: btw, the keyboard shortcuts in kde, is it possible to have them in a text console too? say for example Ctrl+C to copy. I'm only aware of Ctrl+Alt+Del in /etc/inittab |
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| 08:10.10 | NaufraGo | mm |
| 08:10.17 | NaufraGo | xine had lot of errors |
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| 08:11.10 | antonio_ | gfgfg |
| 08:11.21 | alumno | fdfhdjfhdjfh |
| 08:11.30 | nevyn | iciclebox: consoles are a special case. |
| 08:11.32 | antonio_ | hola |
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| 08:11.49 | ISV-Kran | hola antonio_ |
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| 08:12.16 | antonio_ | desde donde escribes |
| 08:12.33 | ISV-Kran | desde uruguay |
| 08:12.35 | ISV-Kran | tu? |
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| 08:12.42 | stjepan | hello |
| 08:12.43 | ootput | hi guys, are any of you using an ncurses-based calender program? |
| 08:12.52 | antonio_ | españa |
| 08:12.57 | NaufraGo | yo soy de chile |
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| 08:13.02 | TheBest | Hi i get this Error on startx http://pastebin.ca/40683 can ckk please ? |
| 08:13.03 | ISV-Kran | :) |
| 08:13.11 | antonio_ | practicando con linux |
| 08:13.12 | ISV-Kran | buenas NaufraGo |
| 08:13.16 | Azar | !es |
| 08:13.16 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 08:13.20 | ISV-Kran | si, en eso anda jajajjaa |
| 08:13.31 | stjepan | how to get list of all lib directories? I do not know well regexps ... locate --regexp="*/lib" ...something like that ... help pls :( |
| 08:13.31 | ISV-Kran | mmm |
| 08:13.35 | ISV-Kran | nos echaron |
| 08:13.35 | Azar | NaufraGo: how it goes? |
| 08:13.45 | antonio_ | me voy hoy era para probar chat en clase |
| 08:14.15 | Azar | NaufraGo: apenas installaste Debian? |
| 08:15.09 | ootput | TheBest: Fatal server error: |
| 08:15.14 | ootput | no screens found |
| 08:15.25 | NaufraGo | Azar, si |
| 08:15.30 | fhffhqvb | ootput: o rly? |
| 08:15.33 | ootput | TheBest: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 08:15.49 | NaufraGo | Azar llevo dos días de estarlo usando |
| 08:15.59 | Azar | NaufraGo: escribi un intro aqui: http://www.geocities.com/spaceproxy/debianbase.html |
| 08:16.02 | ootput | fhffhqvb: troll? |
| 08:16.16 | fhffhqvb | ootput: moron? |
| 08:16.19 | NaufraGo | Azar: instalé recién el VLC |
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| 08:16.33 | NaufraGo | pero no me detecta el sonido al parecer |
| 08:16.38 | Azar | what is VLC? |
| 08:16.44 | NaufraGo | video player |
| 08:16.46 | TheBest | ootput cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory |
| 08:16.49 | ootput | Azar: Video Lan client |
| 08:16.52 | Azar | NaufraGo: lee primero mis notas |
| 08:16.56 | Azar | thanks ootput |
| 08:17.00 | NaufraGo | haha |
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| 08:17.07 | tijn | TheBest, it seems that you dont have an device section |
| 08:17.07 | aliumalik | which cms do you guys think is most secure? |
| 08:17.08 | ootput | TheBest: are you using xorg? |
| 08:17.12 | sanxiyn | Azar: VLC is a nice media player |
| 08:17.13 | sep | TheBest, problem parsing the config file.. sounds like you messed up your configfile. generate configs with dpkg-reconfigure it saves on the typoes |
| 08:17.15 | Azar | you need to have a clean stable base and on top of that you start building |
| 08:17.29 | NaufraGo | sanxiyn |
| 08:17.31 | sanxiyn | aliumalik: Who knows? :( |
| 08:17.40 | NaufraGo | how about the audio in my videos |
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| 08:17.43 | Azar | sanxiyn: I am not good with video stuff (movies ) on a PC |
| 08:17.54 | NaufraGo | it doesn't work |
| 08:17.55 | sanxiyn | NaufraGo: Should work? |
| 08:18.04 | Azar | NaufraGo: you will need to install alsa and configure it first |
| 08:18.12 | NaufraGo | yes |
| 08:18.13 | sanxiyn | NaufraGo: Check whether volume is not zero, etc. |
| 08:18.14 | Azar | Debian comes with OSS alsa is better |
| 08:18.24 | TheBest | no i dont use xorg |
| 08:18.39 | NaufraGo | but, the last time I installed it, it "desconfiguro" it |
| 08:18.41 | ootput | TheBest: /etc/X11/XF86config(-4) |
| 08:18.59 | NaufraGo | I mean, it desconfiguró the audio device |
| 08:19.09 | TheBest | -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' |
| 08:19.17 | sanxiyn | aliumalik: How about Plone |
| 08:19.24 | ootput | TheBest: ah right. you're not. i should've read the actual dump :) |
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| 08:19.44 | weissi | TheBest: that should mean /etc/X11/XF86config OR /etc/X11/XF86config-4 |
| 08:19.46 | ootput | TheBest: XF86Config-4 may or may not exist |
| 08:19.51 | bibe | NaufraGo , Azar , ISV-Kran : /join #debian-es |
| 08:20.06 | Azar | NaufraGo: do you have alsa installed and up? |
| 08:20.14 | ISV-Kran | thanx bibe ) |
| 08:20.18 | TheBest | i have XF86Config-4 |
| 08:20.18 | NaufraGo | it's not necesary |
| 08:20.30 | NaufraGo | I understand english a lot |
| 08:20.31 | Azar | bibe, thank you I stopped already |
| 08:20.39 | ootput | TheBest: fantastic. pastebin that |
| 08:21.12 | TheBest | ootput but is nothing inside |
| 08:21.14 | NaufraGo | Azar, I don't have ALSA installed |
| 08:21.18 | ootput | TheBest: I have a spare moment to help you debug the config, so I will try my best. dpkg-reconfigure should help you too |
| 08:21.36 | Azar | NaufraGo: in here /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 08:21.37 | NaufraGo | because I think it'll unconfigure my audio device |
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| 08:21.57 | TheBest | please specify a package to reconfigure |
| 08:21.57 | Azar | NaufraGo: ah.. ok |
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| 08:22.24 | NaufraGo | lo instalo más nada? |
| 08:22.31 | Azar | sorry I never use a DVD on my PC so I would not know about |
| 08:22.52 | ootput | TheBest: I haven't used XFree86 in a while, so i can't tell you what the name of the package is off the top of my head |
| 08:23.06 | TheBest | dpkg-reconfigure x-window-system |
| 08:23.26 | Azar | !drxx TheBest |
| 08:23.26 | dpkg | TheBest: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 08:24.04 | TheBest | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 08:24.14 | TheBest | what i take |
| 08:24.20 | Azar | TheBest: :) not here, in your command line |
| 08:24.28 | TheBest | Select the desired X server driver |
| 08:24.36 | ootput | TheBest: yes, *-xfree86 |
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| 08:24.45 | TheBest | ok |
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| 08:25.25 | TheBest | i dont know what card i have |
| 08:25.26 | TheBest | Drivers are typically named for the video card or chipset manufacturer, or for a specific ¦ |
| 08:25.26 | TheBest | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:26.05 | Azar | TheBest: you are dead then :) |
| 08:26.10 | Azar | no card , no X |
| 08:26.14 | TheBest | i have via vega sis |
| 08:26.19 | TheBest | lol |
| 08:26.32 | TheBest | how can i find |
| 08:27.34 | ootput | is that a brandname? |
| 08:27.38 | ootput | via vega sis? |
| 08:27.54 | TheBest | yes |
| 08:28.09 | TheBest | but is vds machine |
| 08:28.26 | TheBest | i dont know the cad name |
| 08:28.32 | TheBest | i dont know the card name |
| 08:29.09 | ootput | TheBest: the video card is integrated with the motherboard? who manufactured the motherboard, and what is its model? |
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| 08:29.45 | TheBest | i know |
| 08:30.42 | TheBest | but i can see |
| 08:30.42 | apikoros | hi |
| 08:30.42 | TheBest | is vsd server machine |
| 08:30.42 | sep | TheBest, update-pciids ; lspci | grep VGA |
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| 08:31.30 | Plushy | damn I fixed it in a way I never imagined |
| 08:31.50 | iciclebox | I have to mention that debian rocks. this was after I tried to use Redhat's packet manager |
| 08:31.58 | Plushy | I phoned my ISP and the secratary understood what I talk about and changed my mac |
| 08:31.58 | TheBest | -bash: update-pciids: command not found |
| 08:31.58 | TheBest | -bash: lspci: command not found |
| 08:32.07 | ootput | sep: I never knew of update-pciids. thanks |
| 08:32.27 | ootput | TheBest: apt-get install pciutils |
| 08:32.43 | TheBest | ok |
| 08:32.46 | TheBest | done |
| 08:32.49 | Azar | I wonder what distro is TheBest using |
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| 08:33.30 | ootput | does dpkg-reconfigure work with Ubuntu? |
| 08:33.31 | sep | TheBest, cat /etc/debian_version paste the result here. |
| 08:33.48 | TheBest | 3.1 |
| 08:33.49 | Azar | ubuntu can't get help here |
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| 08:34.11 | Azar | TheBest: are you using ubuntu? |
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| 08:34.18 | mhall | Azar: perhaps TheBest one? |
| 08:34.21 | aris | hello |
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| 08:34.29 | aris | anyone uses OPENVPN here? |
| 08:34.36 | Azar | ;) hi mhall |
| 08:34.37 | sep | TheBest, you are aware that we are telling you what you should do on a debian system right. and if you aply our solutions to a non debian system you will in the best case fail to get anything working, and in the worst case hose your system :) |
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| 08:34.59 | NaufraGo | where do I have to put the vcl skin? |
| 08:35.15 | TheBest | rcxnet:/etc# cat /etc/issue |
| 08:35.15 | TheBest | Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 \n \l |
| 08:35.15 | TheBest | rcxnet:/etc# |
| 08:35.18 | fireba11 | aris: yes .. with IPcop though :-) |
| 08:35.42 | aris | fireba11, can you give me link in installing openvpn on debian |
| 08:35.44 | Azar | strange thing, not having lspci on a Debian Sarge |
| 08:36.28 | TheBest | i instal apt-get install pciutils after i use update-pciids |
| 08:36.30 | weissi | Plushy: ah cool :-) |
| 08:36.49 | TheBest | `/usr/share/misc/pci.ids.new' saved |
| 08:37.00 | TheBest | lspci | grep VGA |
| 08:37.00 | TheBest | pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices |
| 08:37.00 | TheBest | pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci |
| 08:37.00 | TheBest | lspci: Cannot find any working access method. |
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| 08:37.57 | weissi | TheBest: mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 08:38.19 | TheBest | weissi for what |
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| 08:39.18 | weissi | TheBest: for mounting /proc, then your "pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci" problem _COULD_ be solved :-) |
| 08:39.31 | aliumalik | what is the command to logout of root status? |
| 08:39.42 | Azar | exit |
| 08:39.43 | starfishy | ctrl-d |
| 08:39.46 | aliumalik | for ssh...so I dont close the connection |
| 08:39.56 | djw | su - anotheruser? |
| 08:39.57 | TheBest | kill -9 0 |
| 08:40.02 | starfishy | both of them work |
| 08:40.10 | aliumalik | ctrl-d worked |
| 08:40.13 | aliumalik | exit closes |
| 08:40.30 | TheBest | mount: proc already mounted |
| 08:40.30 | TheBest | rcxnet:/etc# |
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| 08:40.53 | NaufraGo | hey |
| 08:41.09 | NaufraGo | which command can I use to move a file to another directory? |
| 08:41.19 | TheBest | mv |
| 08:41.25 | Azar | mv "file" "directory" |
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| 08:42.28 | weissi | TheBest: what? and you don't have /proc/bus/pci ??? |
| 08:42.58 | Azar | NaufraGo: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ch-basics.html#s-basics-files |
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| 08:43.06 | itom | Rosegarden4: 119 days old (needed 10 days) ,Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.2-1); I hope that is solved and come in testing |
| 08:43.17 | Azar | it seems TheBest has a terrible Debian installation |
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| 08:43.35 | weissi | I agree :-) |
| 08:43.51 | Azar | TheBest: your installation is bad. Reinstall |
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| 08:47.26 | TheBest | what to Reinstall the vps |
| 08:48.44 | NaufraGo | how can I set my new vcl's skin? |
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| 08:50.29 | usn | good morning |
| 08:50.31 | NaufraGo | vlc, sorry |
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| 08:51.47 | Azar | NaufraGo: sorry here you will only find debian system help, not applications |
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| 08:53.24 | NaufraGo | ok |
| 08:53.37 | NaufraGo | I continue with the audio problem |
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| 08:56.36 | NaufraGo | how can I configure alsa? |
| 08:57.09 | NaufraGo | well, my audio devica I think is prefect |
| 08:57.17 | NaufraGo | I can listen music |
| 08:57.22 | NaufraGo | system sounds |
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| 08:57.34 | NaufraGo | internet flash sounds |
| 08:57.35 | NaufraGo | etc |
| 08:57.39 | Azar | NaufraGo: you talk about the dvd issue? |
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| 08:57.51 | NaufraGo | but I can't listen the video's audio |
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| 08:58.00 | NaufraGo | well |
| 08:58.05 | NaufraGo | I'm playing a VCD |
| 08:58.19 | Azar | did you add yourusername to the video and audio group? |
| 08:58.37 | NaufraGo | mm |
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| 08:58.42 | NaufraGo | I din't configure it |
| 08:58.46 | Azar | maybe your VCD player has some settings tweaks, mute/unmute channels |
| 08:58.52 | NaufraGo | debian's configuration did it |
| 08:59.19 | alfadir | NaufraGo: have you run alsaconf ? does the sound work in other applications ? |
| 08:59.39 | Azar | NaufraGo: just a hint: I installed xmms player for myself: I had to go and configure the plugin from OSS to ALSA |
| 08:59.39 | NaufraGo | yes, it works in other applications |
| 08:59.53 | NaufraGo | mm |
| 09:00.05 | alfadir | NaufraGo: what player do you use for VCD ? |
| 09:00.13 | NaufraGo | vcl |
| 09:00.15 | NaufraGo | vlc |
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| 09:01.17 | Azar | NaufraGo: try google "alsa in vlc" maybe you get some hints there |
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| 09:01.48 | an0y | t |
| 09:01.52 | an0y | hello |
| 09:02.26 | alfadir | NaufraGo: did not have any problem with streams in vlc but never played vcd through it |
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| 09:03.16 | NaufraGo | ok |
| 09:03.26 | NaufraGo | "Unfortunatly vlc only support alsa for audio output, not for input when |
| 09:03.26 | NaufraGo | streaming." I read in a web |
| 09:03.27 | alfadir | NaufraGo: Preferences -> Audio -> Output modules (select Advanced options) pick the Alsa in the dropdownlist |
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| 09:04.56 | NaufraGo | mm |
| 09:04.59 | NaufraGo | I can't find that |
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| 09:05.25 | alfadir | NaufraGo: Ctrl + S or in the settings menu |
| 09:05.41 | NaufraGo | oh, yes.. I know |
| 09:05.58 | NaufraGo | but I can't find "Alsa" in that section |
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| 09:06.25 | Azar | NaufraGo: check that player's specs or man it |
| 09:06.29 | alfadir | NaufraGo: Audio -> Output modules no alsa ? |
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| 09:06.58 | Azar | maybe you installed alsa "after" you installed the player.. the player did not find it at its install time |
| 09:07.00 | alfadir | NaufraGo: did you install vlc-plugin-alsa |
| 09:07.00 | NaufraGo | no |
| 09:07.13 | alfadir | NaufraGo: vlc-plugin-alsa - ALSA audio output plugin for VLC |
| 09:07.19 | libervisco | hello.. a quick question.. is it enough to download only the first debian CD to install a whole base set? |
| 09:07.20 | NaufraGo | I haven't |
| 09:07.24 | libervisco | how much is on CD1? |
| 09:07.32 | alfadir | NaufraGo: well.. that is the answer .. |
| 09:07.38 | NaufraGo | when I installed vlc |
| 09:07.50 | NaufraGo | it didn't asked me that |
| 09:07.58 | Azar | libervisco: you can install base only with CD1 then pick and install what you really want |
| 09:08.09 | alfadir | NaufraGo: did you use dselect or apt-get ? |
| 09:08.20 | libervisco | Azar, does CD1 include xorg? |
| 09:08.30 | NaufraGo | apt-get |
| 09:08.42 | Azar | libervisco: Debian stable does not support xorg you will risk to install testing if you badly want it |
| 09:08.58 | alfadir | NaufraGo: the package : Suggests: vlc-plugin-alsa, mozilla-plugin-vlc |
| 09:09.16 | Azar | libervisco: http://www.geocities.com/spaceproxy/debianbase.html |
| 09:09.27 | alfadir | NaufraGo: it would have sugested it if you would have used dselect |
| 09:09.36 | libervisco | Azar, oh, right.. I'm going for etch anyway.. people say it is stable for desktops while sarge is stable for servers :) |
| 09:09.48 | NaufraGo | so.. |
| 09:09.50 | alfadir | NaufraGo: it does not force it.. since that would create problems for people that does not want it |
| 09:09.54 | NaufraGo | how can I install the plug-in? |
| 09:10.16 | alfadir | NaufraGo: apt-get install vlc-plugin-alsa |
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| 09:10.27 | alfadir | NaufraGo: and restart vlc |
| 09:10.34 | libervisco | Azar, so X is included in CD1 normally, right? |
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| 09:11.10 | Azar | libervisco: on etch you will get the defaults, 2.4.x kernel and xfree.. you can install xorg later |
| 09:11.16 | niels_ | Guten Morgen zusammen!Hat jemand von Euch Erfahrung in der Installation von Debian 3.1 auf einem Sony Vaio Notebook? |
| 09:11.25 | Azar | !de |
| 09:11.25 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 09:11.51 | Rawplayer | SI |
| 09:12.00 | NaufraGo | mm |
| 09:12.07 | NaufraGo | it doesn't work |
| 09:12.26 | libervisco | Azar, I see.. I thought etch switched to 2.6 lately.. |
| 09:12.28 | alfadir | niels_: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ |
| 09:12.56 | ootput | are any of you working with an ipod (via gtkpod) and working with another usb-storage device at the same time? I'd like to be able to use gtkpod.out to automatically unmount and modprobe -r the usb module, but i'm afraid that it'll interfere with the operation of the 2nd usb-storage device |
| 09:13.01 | Azar | libervisco: sorry I might be wrong I never tried etch |
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| 09:13.40 | libervisco | Azar, no problems.. thanks alot for the info :) |
| 09:13.45 | alfadir | NaufraGo: strange.. does it show up in preferences ? |
| 09:13.57 | aliumalik | -rw-rw-r-- 1 aliumalik admins ....why cant the admins group write to the diectory even thowgh the permissions are rw |
| 09:14.26 | dZen|n| | where can i finde in debian firewall config ? |
| 09:14.28 | Azar | directory permissions are a bit different than file permissions |
| 09:14.55 | Azar | aliumalik: http://www.geocities.com/spaceproxy/debianbase.html |
| 09:14.57 | aliumalik | Azar, what should I do to allow creating directory |
| 09:15.00 | NaufraGo | I've installed alsa again |
| 09:15.00 | NaufraGo | do I have to configure it? |
| 09:15.01 | aliumalik | I need drw |
| 09:15.07 | jocko | alsaconf |
| 09:15.24 | Azar | aliumalik: sorry wrong link: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ch-basics.html#s-basics-files |
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| 09:15.33 | NaufraGo | alffadir: yes |
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| 09:15.48 | caracal | btw, the impression i get from the debian docs is that aptitude is now the favored config tool ... so why do people here continue to recommend dselect and apt-get? |
| 09:16.01 | dZen|n| | where can i finde in debian firewall config ? |
| 09:16.01 | alfadir | NaufraGo: ok, well if the sound works in the other apps you do not need to |
| 09:16.31 | alfadir | NaufraGo: then alsa is working.. it is just a matter of configuring vlc to use the alsa output plugin |
| 09:16.49 | priyank | hey, i have a problem with the debian installation. im using netinstall cd, and while partitioning, it shows only two options LVM and RAID, and my HDD. it doesnt show the partitions..and i cant format the partitions.. |
| 09:17.10 | Azar | caracal: aptitude usually is good for system upgrades/installs such as kernel apt-get goes ok for other packages |
| 09:17.27 | Azar | caracal: aptitude handles dependencies better |
| 09:17.31 | caracal | right |
| 09:17.52 | caracal | i've totally stopped using both dselect and (directly) apt-get |
| 09:18.20 | Azar | caracal: apt-get still kicking good |
| 09:18.28 | ootput | it's fine |
| 09:18.29 | caracal | oh, it still *works* |
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| 09:18.36 | CaT[tm] | why do ppl hate apt. it's nice. poor thing. |
| 09:18.39 | priyank | no one has a soltuion to my problem, ? |
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| 09:19.16 | quik__ | hey folks |
| 09:19.21 | alfadir | priyank: sorry, have not used the new installer.. but the install manual should be a good help |
| 09:19.21 | libervisco | Azar, btw, to confirm, Debian Etch now does include Xorg 6.8.2 and kernel 2.6.12 according to distrowatch http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian :) |
| 09:19.24 | caracal | and as i understand it, aptitude uses apt-get underneath ... it's just a front-end |
| 09:19.35 | aliumalik | Azar, with rwx I can create directories...but I cannot find a way to get drwdrw root group |
| 09:19.49 | Azar | libervisco: thanks for the info, I assumed it did not.. |
| 09:20.10 | libervisco | np |
| 09:20.17 | quik__ | I have a debian machine, connected to my router, I can ping the router and other machines on the network and ping the debian machine from other computers also.. I cannot however, ping "google.com" from the debian machine. Does anyone have any ideas? |
| 09:20.25 | Azar | aliumalik: you should not touch root and system files unless you know what you are doing |
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| 09:20.40 | Azar | aliumalik: practice from that site.. until ou get used to |
| 09:20.47 | Azar | .. in user mode ofcourse |
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| 09:21.36 | caracal | quik__: does the debian machine have the router configured as its gateway? that is, if you do "route", does it say "default my.routers.name ..." ? |
| 09:21.51 | alfadir | priyank: can only refer you to : http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s03.html.en |
| 09:22.16 | quik__ | caracal: it is configured in /etc/network/interaces to use the router as the gateway.. but I will check the route now |
| 09:22.34 | priyank | alfadir: thanks |
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| 09:23.09 | flowtron | My PC hangs if I run GDM. This is new after I had a faulty HDD inside, which wasn't used just tested. Please help. |
| 09:23.16 | priyank | alfadir: btw, the problem is not that i dont know how to install. the problem is that it doesnt show any partitions |
| 09:23.26 | priyank | alfadir: anyways. thanks for the link. it might help me :) |
| 09:23.59 | alfadir | priyank: go out to a shell and check with fdisk.. sorry hard to advice when one does not see it.. |
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| 09:24.09 | NaufraGo | Azar |
| 09:24.15 | priyank | alfadir: yeah. |
| 09:24.15 | NaufraGo | can you help me please |
| 09:24.22 | priyank | alfadir: i can understand :) |
| 09:24.29 | NaufraGo | I installed ALSA |
| 09:24.32 | NaufraGo | and now |
| 09:24.32 | priyank | alfadir: someone told me to fix my hdd using gpart. |
| 09:24.37 | priyank | alfadir: gonna try that. |
| 09:24.38 | quik__ | caracal: I had my gateway to the wrong address... |
| 09:24.40 | NaufraGo | I restarted my computer |
| 09:24.48 | caracal | quik__: ah, that would explain it! |
| 09:24.49 | quik__ | caracal: how do I restart the networking? |
| 09:25.00 | NaufraGo | and the sound system doesn't work |
| 09:25.05 | alfadir | priyank: there are many partition tools.. fdisk, parted, gparted.. you can even use windows to partition.. |
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| 09:25.21 | Azar | NaufraGo: I am not handy with the video tool you are using NaufraGo if Alsa works everywhere on your system but not with that tool, research for instruction on that vlc.. |
| 09:25.21 | priyank | alfadir: no not these. |
| 09:25.21 | NaufraGo | can anybody help me? |
| 09:25.33 | NaufraGo | mm |
| 09:25.35 | caracal | quik__: try "ifdown ; ifup" ... not sure if that'll do everything you need, but it's quick and worth a try |
| 09:25.36 | alfadir | priyank: ok, special disks ? |
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| 09:25.39 | NaufraGo | now nothing works |
| 09:25.39 | priyank | alfadir: theres a tool called gpart,its different |
| 09:25.59 | priyank | alfadir: its for fixing drive errros |
| 09:26.00 | Azar | NaufraGo: sorry, I am not good with video I never use video on my system |
| 09:26.05 | quik__ | use help.. |
| 09:26.07 | quik__ | hmm |
| 09:26.08 | caracal | quik__: "/etc/init.d/networking restart" is another thing worth trying |
| 09:26.19 | NaufraGo | it's ok Azar |
| 09:26.22 | caracal | failing that, a reboot always works <g> |
| 09:26.24 | alfadir | priyank: found it. google.. :) |
| 09:26.26 | NaufraGo | but it's not the problem now |
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| 09:26.29 | priyank | alfadir: aha |
| 09:26.38 | priyank | link link alfadir |
| 09:26.39 | priyank | :P |
| 09:26.46 | NaufraGo | the problem is that the audio system isn't working now |
| 09:26.51 | alfadir | priyank: hehe.. |
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| 09:27.04 | Azar | NaufraGo: do you happen to know why it stopped working? what did you do? |
| 09:27.07 | alfadir | priyank: googling is an art many do not know.. |
| 09:27.12 | NaufraGo | the error is that it doesn't such /dev/dsp |
| 09:27.14 | priyank | alfadir: lol ok.. |
| 09:27.16 | NaufraGo | or something like that |
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| 09:27.18 | ootput | can any of you recommend an ncurses-based calendar program? |
| 09:27.22 | quik__ | caracal: I will try a reboot. Is there anything else that I could have missed? (Other than /etc/networking/interfaces ?) |
| 09:27.29 | NaufraGo | I installed alsa before |
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| 09:27.36 | deadcat | ootput: none. |
| 09:27.54 | Azar | NaufraGo: evidently it worked, then you did something that broke it |
| 09:27.59 | Azar | what did you do? |
| 09:28.00 | deadcat | ootput: the command line ones suck (= |
| 09:28.13 | NaufraGo | I installed alsa with apt-get |
| 09:28.13 | caracal | quik__: if your debian box is set up right (and it sounds like it was close) then i would suspect that your router's configuration is not allowing that box's traffic to go through ... ignoring or blocking it |
| 09:28.19 | NaufraGo | and later I restarted my computer |
| 09:28.35 | ootput | deadcat: :( |
| 09:28.36 | NaufraGo | and he audio system doesn't work |
| 09:28.49 | flowtron | how to revive GDM if a hard-reset causes it to hang the PC since then. fsck found no errors on the disk, sometimes I even see 2/3 of the logon screen ... |
| 09:28.53 | ootput | deadcat: i'm trying to separate myself from evolution-type programs |
| 09:28.59 | quik__ | caracal: I don't think the router is at fault, I'm fairly across that.. I'm not exactly an avid debian user yet. |
| 09:29.00 | deadcat | ootput: gui has orange, the xfce4 one. i use gdeskcal |
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| 09:29.05 | Azar | NaufraGo: i remember when you installed and configured alsa and you said everything is working only that vlc does not get sound |
| 09:29.06 | caracal | ootput: i haven't found anything that beats editing my crontab |
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| 09:29.29 | Azar | NaufraGo: so from the state of working>not working something happened |
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| 09:29.44 | deadcat | caracal: calendar. not a crontab |
| 09:29.48 | alfadir | Azar: there were some comment that he reinstalled alsa.. don't know how.. |
| 09:29.54 | quik__ | after a restart nothing has changed |
| 09:29.59 | alfadir | Azar: but alsaconf would then fix it.. maybe |
| 09:30.21 | NaufraGo | maybe the changes of alsa started to work now |
| 09:30.23 | quik__ | I can still ping the router and also the other machines... |
| 09:30.25 | alfadir | Azar: once he has it working in other apps then it is just a matter of vlc-plugin-alsa and configuring |
| 09:30.25 | caracal | deadcat: well, using the appropriate auxiliary apps, cron can do everything any "calendaring" program can |
| 09:30.33 | NaufraGo | and now ocures the error |
| 09:30.42 | Azar | alfadir: I guess so....NaufraGo use alsaconf again |
| 09:30.43 | quik__ | but not externally. |
| 09:30.49 | caracal | quik__: can you turn on some sort of verbosity/debugging in your router, to see where the packets are going? |
| 09:30.52 | deadcat | caracal: can you show all the things (todo list) of the month from cron? |
| 09:31.14 | caracal | deadcat: as i said, with a helper app, sure |
| 09:31.24 | alfadir | Azar: of course there can be other problems but i doubt it.. |
| 09:31.27 | deadcat | caracal: ya. which calls for a calendar app. |
| 09:31.39 | caracal | so name a good one <g> |
| 09:31.45 | caracal | that was the original point |
| 09:31.52 | ootput | deadcat: I'm trying to convert riot 's <http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/riot/> output to something that I can sync up with an ipod |
| 09:31.53 | Azar | alfadir: yes alsa is very tricky and sensitive, hard to configure |
| 09:31.53 | alfadir | Azar: alsaconf kills all running audio apps. that can have taken over the dsp... well well gotta go |
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| 09:32.11 | quik__ | caracal: I don't think so |
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| 09:32.21 | quik__ | I pinged the machine from the router and it responded. |
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| 09:32.43 | Azar | me too is crazy after 1 am.. |
| 09:32.44 | caracal | quik__: and a "traceroute google.com" from the debian box gets as far as the router and then stops? |
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| 09:33.05 | quik__ | I have no traceroute command |
| 09:33.10 | quik__ | I installed from netinstall cd |
| 09:33.17 | caracal | ah |
| 09:33.19 | deadcat | ootput: pretty neat (= |
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| 09:33.27 | ootput | deadcat: damn straight! |
| 09:33.32 | cult | hi |
| 09:33.36 | deadcat | ootput: no .deb? |
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| 09:33.57 | alfadir | quik__: well install the package traceroute |
| 09:33.57 | ootput | deadcat: no, you'll need to compile from darcs |
| 09:34.02 | Yvette | how to set the default display manager? |
| 09:34.11 | cult | is there any option on the debian dvd to start a rescue kernel with my own root-fs? |
| 09:34.17 | alfadir | quik__: apt-cache search traceroute |
| 09:34.20 | caracal | quik__: it's in a package called "traceroute", which you could install |
| 09:34.20 | quik__ | alfadir: with no web access.. how do I do that? |
| 09:34.26 | douglas_om | Good morning. |
| 09:34.28 | douglas_om | Is there a way to remove unused libraries? I mean, if I uninstalled some program, all libs it depends are kept installed. Even if no other program depends on them. How can I remove them? |
| 09:34.44 | deadcat | douglas_om: deborphan |
| 09:34.49 | alfadir | quik__: so you can not apt-get from the machine ? |
| 09:34.49 | ootput | deadcat: although tuomov himself uses etch, so I'm not sure if he packaged one up for the rest of the community |
| 09:34.59 | quik__ | alfadir: no |
| 09:35.01 | cult | rescue root=/dev/foo isnt any more |
| 09:35.07 | douglas_om | deadcat: thanks |
| 09:35.10 | quik__ | I can't ping the web from the machine |
| 09:35.13 | deadcat | ootput: lets hope he does. i dont feel like compiling (= |
| 09:35.17 | caracal | alfadir: he can't get past his router, that's the problem |
| 09:35.36 | quik__ | route gives me: localnet * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 09:35.41 | Yvette | i want to use the enlightenment as default display manager. so i modify the /etc/X11/default-display-manager. but it doesn't work. what's going on? |
| 09:35.52 | alfadir | caracal: ok.. came into the discussion to late.. sorry :) |
| 09:36.00 | quik__ | and: default 10.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 09:36.12 | deadcat | ootput: you like ncurse based softwares alot eh? (= |
| 09:36.40 | caracal | quik__: that's your router address? 10.1.1.1? |
| 09:36.43 | alfadir | caracal: he is doing a netinstall or has he succeded with one ? |
| 09:36.55 | Yvette | Does anyone have idea? |
| 09:37.04 | quik__ | caracal: yes |
| 09:37.17 | quik__ | alfadir: I can answer that question too ;) |
| 09:37.20 | ootput | deadcat: hehe. I work from several boxes that can't afford the processing-power that most gui-based apps require, so I usually just ssh into a screen-session that contains an ncurses based app |
| 09:37.20 | caracal | alfadir: yes, succeeded with netinst, can ping to/from debian box to/from other boxes on his local net ... seems to be a routing problem |
| 09:37.27 | deadcat | Yvette: no. thats for display manager. unless you want it to be entrance |
| 09:37.37 | alfadir | quik__: sorry |
| 09:37.39 | deadcat | Yvette: what dm you using right now? or plan to use? |
| 09:37.47 | Yvette | deadcat: gdm |
| 09:37.54 | flowtron | any ideas how to fix a gdm that somehow got clobbered - it's currently hanging the PC ... |
| 09:37.54 | deadcat | ootput: yeep. and screen is the best.. ever |
| 09:38.00 | quik__ | the GenMask is listed as 0.0.0.0 for the default line. is that a problem? |
| 09:38.00 | caracal | quik__: then i'm stumped ... to me, it sounds like your router is dropping that box's traffic on the floor |
| 09:38.05 | Yvette | deadcat: i plan to use enlightenment now |
| 09:38.07 | deadcat | Yvette: click session see if E is there or not. |
| 09:38.12 | caracal | quik__: no, that's what i have |
| 09:38.19 | Yvette | deadcat: it's not here |
| 09:38.23 | caracal | that's typical of a "default" route, i think |
| 09:38.29 | Yvette | deadcat: i checked it last time |
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| 09:38.48 | Yvette | deadcat: i am running enlightenment using startx |
| 09:38.56 | deadcat | Yvette: you can either create a .xsession file and add "exec e17" or whatever in there. then select default x session from gdm |
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| 09:39.09 | NaufraGo | azar |
| 09:39.20 | NaufraGo | I've removed alsa |
| 09:39.20 | Yvette | deadcat: i will give a try. |
| 09:39.27 | deadcat | Yvette: you using e17 right? |
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| 09:39.37 | NaufraGo | and now the sound system is working perfect |
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| 09:39.40 | NaufraGo | look |
| 09:39.40 | Yvette | deadcat: e17? what's that? |
| 09:39.47 | alfadir | NaufraGo: Azar is gone |
| 09:39.52 | deadcat | Yvette: enlightenment 17. oh shit. you on 16? HAHAHAHAH |
| 09:39.53 | NaufraGo | oh |
| 09:40.00 | NaufraGo | alfadir, can you help me? |
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| 09:40.10 | Yvette | deadcat: i don't know. i apt-get installed it |
| 09:40.11 | NaufraGo | I tried to configure alfa |
| 09:40.22 | Yvette | deadcat: how to check the version? |
| 09:40.23 | NaufraGo | and it didn't detect my sound device |
| 09:40.30 | deadcat | Yvette: thats 16. 17 will blow your freakin head off (= |
| 09:40.32 | alfadir | NaufraGo: ok, but not for long.. gotta do some other stuff |
| 09:40.37 | deadcat | Yvette: dpkg -l enlightenment |
| 09:40.41 | deadcat | Yvette: and its 16 |
| 09:40.55 | alfadir | NaufraGo: when you said you removed alsa.. you deinstalled it ? |
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| 09:41.06 | caracal | quik__: this is probably a dead end, but ... does your debian box have an actual routable IP address? that is, other than 10.*.*.*? |
| 09:41.10 | Yvette | deadcat: the version is 0.16.7.2-1 |
| 09:41.19 | NaufraGo | yes |
| 09:41.23 | deadcat | Yvette: you using stable/testing/unstable? |
| 09:41.26 | quik__ | caracal: I don't follow? |
| 09:41.29 | Yvette | deadcat: stable |
| 09:41.31 | caracal | and i assume that your router also has a valid "external" address in addition to the 10.1.1.1 one you have |
| 09:41.33 | NaufraGo | apt-get remove --purge alsa |
| 09:41.33 | quik__ | it is set at 10.1.13 |
| 09:41.36 | alfadir | NaufraGo: so the sound is not working in any program now |
| 09:41.49 | quik__ | I'm using that router with my powerbook now to speak with you |
| 09:41.49 | NaufraGo | the sound IS working now |
| 09:42.03 | alfadir | NaufraGo: I think on reboot it will not |
| 09:42.10 | caracal | quik__: are you using NAT or IP masquerading of some sort? |
| 09:42.15 | deadcat | Yvette: i dont know if theres e17 for stable or not. but Gnea is also a E user, he knows where to get E17 .deb |
| 09:42.19 | quik__ | NAT maybe |
| 09:42.24 | alfadir | NaufraGo: I think it was working all the time.. and now the drivers are running.. as previously installed |
| 09:42.34 | caracal | quik__: then don't you have to configure that box in your NAT setup? |
| 09:42.38 | alfadir | NaufraGo: but on reboot they will not be there anymore.. |
| 09:42.52 | Yvette | Gnea: hey. do you have any idea about getting e17 .deb file? |
| 09:43.03 | quik__ | caracal: As a windows machine (its dual boot) it uses the same IP address |
| 09:43.04 | alfadir | NaufraGo: or do you have some other modules running ? |
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| 09:43.21 | deadcat | Yvette: check get-e.org |
| 09:43.22 | caracal | quik__: ah, well then ... i'm stumped |
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| 09:43.28 | alfadir | NaufraGo: /sbin/lsmod shows all drivers loaded |
| 09:43.38 | Yvette | deadcat: enlightenment is a window manager or a session? |
| 09:43.49 | NaufraGo | but with alsa installed it doesn't |
| 09:43.49 | NaufraGo | do you understand me? |
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| 09:44.07 | deadcat | Yvette: window manager. although its too bloated to be called a window manager in my opinion (= |
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| 09:44.23 | Yvette | deadcat: i see |
| 09:44.30 | caracal | e = wm + 'roids ;) |
| 09:44.31 | NaufraGo | mm, ping.. |
| 09:44.38 | NaufraGo | alfadir, did you read? |
| 09:44.43 | deadcat | Yvette: but its hella fancy... king kong aint got shit on it. |
| 09:44.57 | deadcat | caracal: hhaha |
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| 09:45.29 | flowtron | I had to test a HDD, I also put it into fstab, after removing it again (forgetting mtab) and rebooting, I got errors. Opted to continue and got a hanging GDM. Now - even with fixed fstab - gdm hangs the PC. how to fix this? |
| 09:46.32 | flowtron | s/mtab/fstab/ |
| 09:46.38 | quik__ | caracal: hey... how do I set dnsservers? |
| 09:46.52 | flowtron | quik__ : /etc/resolv.cong |
| 09:46.56 | quik__ | because I just realised my powerbook has two dns entries |
| 09:47.09 | alfadir | NaufraGo: well.. I do not know how the sound can work without drivers.. |
| 09:47.29 | flowtron | alfadir / NaufraGo : OSS maybe installed? |
| 09:47.43 | caracal | quik__: those go in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 09:47.47 | quik__ | flowtron: nameserver foo and then a new line for the second one? |
| 09:47.50 | alfadir | flowtron: sure.. i know. |
| 09:47.58 | quik__ | if there are two.. do I write them onto seperate lines? |
| 09:48.07 | alfadir | flowtron: but not sure how to ask questions to find that out |
| 09:48.09 | caracal | quik__: you'll usually have a "search" line, followed by one or more "nameserver" lines |
| 09:48.12 | alfadir | flowtron: more than /sbin/lsmod |
| 09:48.14 | flowtron | quik__ : yes seperate lines - but not foo - you need an IP |
| 09:48.23 | quik__ | yes, I meant foo instead of IP |
| 09:48.30 | quik__ | erm.. yes |
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| 09:49.46 | quik__ | WOO! |
| 09:49.53 | quik__ | it was the damn nameservers |
| 09:50.10 | caracal | yay! |
| 09:50.17 | caracal | quik__: congrats |
| 09:50.29 | quik__ | caracal: thanks for the help. |
| 09:50.31 | caracal | welcome to debian ;) |
| 09:50.32 | quik__ | all others too |
| 09:50.42 | quik__ | ... I have a debian machine at work that I setup |
| 09:50.47 | quik__ | as a web dev server |
| 09:50.55 | quik__ | this is my home effort to ditch windows |
| 09:51.01 | quik__ | and use debian and mac osx only |
| 09:51.04 | caracal | "debian been berry berry good to me" |
| 09:52.36 | flowtron | I'm still stumped at my gdm issue. Nothing seems to explain or fix this. I just had this stupid disk in the box and now gdm always hangs. dpkg-reconfigure didn't fix, fsck brought up no errors ... |
| 09:53.47 | caracal | since i first loaded slink, i've gone all-deb and haven't regretted it for an instant |
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| 09:54.59 | caracal | flowtron: no clues in any logs? |
| 09:55.01 | flowtron | caracal : this is the first time linux is doing something I can't comprehend. I see no reason yet it repeatedly hangs if I start the gdm. |
| 09:55.28 | flowtron | mmmh. logs. well. there's a point ;-) ... usually the first, eh |
| 09:55.43 | caracal | worth checking, anyway |
| 09:55.50 | saloxin | flowtron: disk full, broken X11 setup or somesuch |
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| 09:56.00 | caracal | like eg. /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 09:57.00 | yage | I have a server connected to a switch monitor port, i'd like to create graphs to display for every server which kind of traffic (http, ftp, ssh) a machine does and keep history for last week, month and so on. I've seen ntop, but, i'm not fully satisfied, any idea? |
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| 09:57.26 | flowtron | saloxin : no. |
| 09:57.42 | flowtron | saloxin : I just tested a HDD. it was broken |
| 09:57.52 | flowtron | then I removed it but forgot to remove it from fstab |
| 09:58.09 | flowtron | the next boot went bad, because of that |
| 09:58.13 | flowtron | since then the issue |
| 09:58.22 | flowtron | problem is I have to reboot to view logs |
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| 09:58.43 | flowtron | so everything is ... obfuscated. I'm doing a thorough search now |
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| 10:00.10 | caracal | the only way i can see that the HD would be involved is if gdm somehow picked up a pathname on it and cached it ... and i dunno why it would have done that ... my guess is, the HD problem and the gdm problem are related only by the timing of their occurrence |
| 10:00.39 | caracal | but prowling the logs might yield clues (one can always hope!) |
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| 10:03.39 | fireba11 | hm .. can anyone tell me why (or how to find out) kernel 2.4.27-386 works fine on this box while 2.6.8-2-686-smp won't and gives a kernel panic when i try to bott it ? it's a p4 2.4 so it should work .. ^^ |
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| 10:04.43 | sep | fireba11, perhaps the 2.6's init'rd is lacking some module. what is the lines above the panic |
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| 10:05.42 | fireba11 | sep: depends .. in regular mode it complains about quitting an important part .. in recovery mode i got another message .. sady i didn#t note them and it's a productive server so i can't jsut try again right now |
| 10:05.56 | bykte | apt-get install is for installing stuff, what's the command for searching? |
| 10:06.21 | fireba11 | sep: will search logs for it, hang on |
| 10:06.27 | darkpadden | apt-cache search |
| 10:06.40 | bykte | ah ok thanks |
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| 10:07.34 | mae | what are some good webstat programs for use w/ apache i've looked at awstats and webstats |
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| 10:08.58 | _joey | could someone tell me what reiserfs version comes with sarge ? |
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| 10:09.34 | _joey | please :) |
| 10:09.43 | flowtron | caracal : I've prowled. To no avail :( |
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| 10:10.34 | flowtron | mae : webalizer? |
| 10:10.43 | caracal | flowtron: bummer ... i don't know much about gdm, so i'm afraid i can't give much help ... but your X is starting up okay? and gdm's logs don't show anything useful? can you increase his verbosity, turn on debugging, whatever? |
| 10:11.05 | flowtron | no X isn't starting up okay. |
| 10:11.16 | caracal | oh? what's the log say? |
| 10:11.29 | flowtron | nothing that I could see |
| 10:11.49 | flowtron | caracal : it sometimes shows 1/3, or even 2/3 of the logon screen |
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| 10:12.03 | flowtron | caracal : but mostly it hangs in the grey phase ... |
| 10:12.04 | fireba11 | sep: could it be there is no log about that failed boot because it quited with a kernel panic before done booting ? |
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| 10:12.23 | sep | fireba11, aye |
| 10:12.47 | fireba11 | sep: dang .. it was shortly after it detected 2 CPus though (HT) |
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| 10:13.10 | caracal | flowtron: well, that's not very useful, and it sounds like it's not even getting to the point of starting gdm ... what's the last thing in your Xorg.0.log? (or XFree86.0.log if you're still on xfree?) |
| 10:13.26 | flowtron | still Xfree |
| 10:13.29 | fireba11 | sep: but i guess this doesn't help much ... think i'll have to try when the ppl are gone home and write doen the error message |
| 10:13.29 | sep | fireba11, digital cameras is nice for logging kernel panics :) |
| 10:13.39 | flowtron | mom. I can ssh into it from here. |
| 10:14.01 | map_ | has anyone else had gtk apps like firefox and xqf segfault randomly in unstable and/or testing recently? |
| 10:14.25 | caracal | map_: no, thank garp <g> |
| 10:14.29 | flowtron | caracal : fonts being removed from list |
| 10:14.40 | caracal | flowtron: are there any "EE" lines in it? |
| 10:14.58 | flowtron | caracal: no, that's what I went looking for before ... |
| 10:15.00 | caracal | as in, grep EE XFree86.0.log (caps are important) |
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| 10:15.30 | flowtron | caracal : yeah. nothing |
| 10:15.38 | caracal | ouch |
| 10:15.40 | flowtron | well ... the one line of course |
| 10:15.47 | flowtron | where it's explained :) |
| 10:15.56 | caracal | ? |
| 10:15.58 | flowtron | and one occurence of SCREEN :) |
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| 10:16.32 | fireba11 | sep: true.. had no cam handy yesterday though :-') |
| 10:16.40 | cybaspace | Good day y'all! Anyone experience with Tarantella v4.2 on Debian? |
| 10:17.35 | flowtron | caracal : there is a line in the log explaining what the (..) lines mean, so - of course I find that one ... |
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| 10:18.34 | caracal | flowtron: ah, okay |
| 10:19.02 | caracal | so do you have an XFree86.0.log.old in your /var/log directory? and if so, did you diff it with the current one? |
| 10:19.22 | caracal | (as you may be able to tell, i'm grasping at straws here <g>) |
| 10:19.31 | flowtron | caracal : the times differ ... |
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| 10:19.44 | flowtron | caracal : your my straw @ the moment :) |
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| 10:21.02 | caracal | and do you have a /var/log/gdm/:0.log file? (or more likely, that plus a .1, .2, etc.) |
| 10:21.29 | flowtron | caracal : yes, but didn't see anything "unusual" there either |
| 10:21.52 | caracal | and its datestamp makes sense, as in it was updated the last time you tried to start X? |
| 10:22.07 | flowtron | caracal : yes |
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| 10:23.23 | flowtron | caracal : I'm guessing some important file got clobbered |
| 10:23.36 | caracal | i guess reinstalling gdm is one thing to try, shouldn't be too impactive if you haven't customized the hell out of it |
| 10:23.36 | lobz | hi, is there an apache-ant package available for sarge? |
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| 10:23.43 | flowtron | caracal : the Q is - how to fix without complete reinstall of gnome/gdm |
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| 10:24.04 | flowtron | caracal : haha. ok. if you're at a loss too |
| 10:24.13 | caracal | well, while gdm is dependent on gnome, the reverse isn't true, iirc ... so you should be able to just do him |
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| 10:24.38 | jadawin` | hello |
| 10:25.00 | caracal | the next thing i would try is to see if i could start XFree manually, and maybe an xterm, just to separate "X problems" from "gdm problems" |
| 10:25.01 | klixe | hello jadawin |
| 10:25.46 | weissi | flowtron & caracal: I did't listen completely to your conversation, but perhaps that helps you: `apt-get install --reinstall <package>` reinstalls a package, but you don't have to reinstall all its rdepends... |
| 10:25.47 | caracal | i haven't used xdm or gdm for years ... at home, i don't restart often enough to make it worthwhile, so i just use startx *blush* |
| 10:26.34 | caracal | weissi: that sounds cool ... if his problem is a borked config file, would that fix it? that is, does it do a --purge, in effect? |
| 10:26.55 | klixe | Well my machine is so stable that I can't even remember how I started X. |
| 10:27.01 | caracal | or would he need to mv /etc/X11/gdm to some other name, maybe? |
| 10:27.09 | caracal | klixe: lol ... you da man <g> |
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| 10:27.29 | flowtron | caracal : sorry to tell you. it didn't really help |
| 10:27.42 | flowtron | caracal & weissi : i removed and installed gdm |
| 10:27.43 | caracal | we use gdm at work, but the admins handle it so i don't have to |
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| 10:27.46 | fireba11 | sep: i will grab a digicam and get the kernel message later today and bug you again with it if you don't mind ;-) |
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| 10:28.18 | flowtron | caracl : now it complains about some gdm-theme missing, plays the "ahemm"-sound but still freezes up :( |
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| 10:28.35 | caracal | flowtron: i believe the technical term for your situation is "well and truly fucked" ;) |
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| 10:29.02 | flowtron | caracal : yeah. Excuse me sir, is this a god damn? |
| 10:29.22 | tijn | erhm |
| 10:29.31 | weissi | caracal: I think it will ask wheater it should overwrite it with the original version or not (perhaps you could also append a --purge (don't know it)) |
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| 10:29.55 | caracal | weissi: apparently he already did an uninstall and reinstall, and got no joy |
| 10:30.11 | flowtron | weissi & caracal : thanks for the input. I'll just toy around some. I'll probably come back here l8r ... |
| 10:30.24 | caracal | flowtron: good luck to you |
| 10:30.30 | sep | fireba11, bug the channel since you never can know if im listening |
| 10:30.30 | weissi | caracal: ok... |
| 10:30.33 | flowtron | thanks |
| 10:30.39 | s-toned | Is there a guide or recommendations about new hardware to buy for sarge? |
| 10:30.56 | caracal | flowtron: me, i'd try to ensure that xfree was itself working, separately from gdm |
| 10:31.07 | fireba11 | sep: of course :-) |
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| 10:33.32 | sep | s-toned, hardware support in debian is directly provided by the kernel. so buy hardware that is well supported by the kernel 2.6.8 that means stay away from ich6-7 chipsets , or you must use a more recent kernel. |
| 10:34.56 | klixe | There are more recent kernels availble at backports.org 2.6.15 I think. |
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| 10:35.06 | s-toned | sep: That is, I should look into the kernel-sources? |
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| 10:35.36 | s-toned | sep: I thought about something like linuxprinting.org or tuxmobil.org but for mainboards and VGA |
| 10:35.44 | bykte | how can i check whether the apache installed on my debian is a common one or a custom-made? |
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| 10:39.54 | Guerin | bykte: dpkg -l |grep apache; which apachectl; similar tools |
| 10:39.56 | klixe | bykte: perhaps compare the version to that on http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 10:41.11 | bykte | oh i see.. |
| 10:41.14 | bykte | 1.3.26 |
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| 10:42.19 | iciclebox | in my log, I see "new high speed USB device using address 2". how do I refer to that USB device? |
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| 10:43.12 | iciclebox | ah never mind |
| 10:43.34 | klixe | bykte: the version of apache you have seems old. If your running sarge with updates, you should probably have 1.3.33-6... or so. |
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| 10:44.20 | talamodet | started using udev on debian |
| 10:44.23 | dr1v3r | guys whats the command to check the version of a package i have installed? |
| 10:44.24 | talamodet | (hotplug removed) |
| 10:44.31 | talamodet | and now my onboard network adapter isn't recognized |
| 10:44.38 | talamodet | during bootup the link is stopped |
| 10:44.47 | talamodet | and eth0 is no longer recognized as yukon 1gb controller |
| 10:44.59 | talamodet | the firewire-ethernet card is the only one recognized |
| 10:45.00 | caracal | dr1v3r: "dpkg -l packagename" is one way |
| 10:45.05 | dr1v3r | thanks |
| 10:45.14 | bykte | klixe, woody |
| 10:45.22 | talamodet | it's during the udev scan that the link is taken down |
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| 10:46.12 | klixe | Man. Who still uses woody these days ;) |
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| 10:46.36 | Greatred | klixe, maybe they've not rebooted for a while :) |
| 10:46.40 | caracal | dinosaurs <g> |
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| 10:47.10 | klixe | Maybe they found the computer in the closet. |
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| 10:47.25 | RichiH | ouchie |
| 10:47.34 | erhanugur | flood :/ |
| 10:47.40 | Greatred | it could be that they want a stable system, woody already works etc. |
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| 10:47.58 | klixe | bykte: how about purging apache and reinstalling? |
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| 10:48.04 | RichiH | erhanugur: we are doing what we can |
| 10:48.06 | kec | hi |
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| 10:48.11 | bykte | klixe, how do i do that? |
| 10:48.25 | kec | i want to download debian cd images |
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| 10:48.33 | klixe | aptitude... hang on, you probably don't have that in woody... |
| 10:48.34 | kec | from debian.org |
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| 10:48.37 | bykte | klixe, i really dont wish to install a LAMP package.. |
| 10:48.39 | kec | i have a pc |
| 10:48.49 | bykte | wanna do it individually to be safer |
| 10:49.00 | klixe | You could try IKEA for a LAMP package.... Just kidding. |
| 10:49.17 | bykte | haha |
| 10:49.32 | klixe | How about dpkg -l | grep apache. Then dpkg --purge <apache stuff> |
| 10:49.39 | klixe | Then apt-get install apache |
| 10:49.44 | kec | there is lot of link |
| 10:49.53 | kec | one for each architecture |
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| 10:50.06 | kec | which one is suited for pc |
| 10:50.07 | kec | ???? |
| 10:50.22 | kec | i386 |
| 10:50.24 | kec | ?? |
| 10:50.29 | caracal | kec: yes |
| 10:50.32 | bykte | so klixe it's dpkg --purge apache |
| 10:50.34 | bykte | right? |
| 10:50.36 | EdLin | kec: i386 |
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| 10:50.44 | bykte | or is it dpkg --purge 1.3.26-0woody3 |
| 10:50.55 | klixe | Make sure you don't mind loosing your current apache config before you do it. |
| 10:50.58 | kec | thanks |
| 10:50.59 | EdLin | !tell kec -about enter |
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| 10:51.12 | bykte | klixe i dont have anything on apache yet |
| 10:51.23 | bykte | erm so is it teh first or second? |
| 10:51.36 | klixe | bykte: ok, no problem then. |
| 10:51.47 | bykte | ok i assume it's the first |
| 10:51.57 | Henry_Bean | hi, after my last upgrade (few days ago) my gnome desktop icons have broken, anybody has the same problem? |
| 10:52.33 | Henry_Bean | i'm in sid |
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| 10:53.52 | bykte | ah sad klixe |
| 10:53.54 | bykte | that wont work |
| 10:53.57 | webwolf_27 | what are the chances that wxWidgets2.6 will find it's way into apt anytime soon |
| 10:53.59 | bykte | it has dependencies.. |
| 10:54.10 | iciclebox | I have an alias that causes 'man <cmd>' to become 'man <cmd> | more' |
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| 10:55.00 | quik__ | which desktop managers are you guys all using>? |
| 10:55.06 | quik__ | I'm probably about to install KDE |
| 10:55.10 | iciclebox | go for KDE |
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| 10:55.17 | iciclebox | IMO, it's better than GNOME |
| 10:55.17 | klixe | bykte: tru running apt-get update then run dselect. Have a look if the version of apache installed is the same as the available version. If so, you are probably OK and need only install whatever else you need to complete your lamp. Probably MYSQL and PHP. |
| 10:55.19 | ft | iciclebox: unalias? |
| 10:55.20 | EdLin | quik__: windowmaker |
| 10:55.26 | ft | quik__: fvwm |
| 10:55.32 | klixe | bykte: s/tru/try/ |
| 10:55.37 | flowtron | caracal : I dunno what did it, but it's working again |
| 10:55.47 | iciclebox | ft: thanks. which file stores aliases? |
| 10:55.48 | caracal | flowtron: gremlins! |
| 10:55.59 | iciclebox | is there a M$ wdm? |
| 10:56.06 | flowtron | caracal : on the one hand I installed xdm and on the other I switched the modes down to 1024x768 |
| 10:56.07 | ft | iciclebox: depends on what shell you are using |
| 10:56.08 | quik__ | whats this novell xgi thing all about? |
| 10:56.09 | sep | iciclebox, find out if this is systemwide or just for your user and look in ~/.bashrc or similar. |
| 10:56.19 | caracal | quik__: i like windowmaker |
| 10:56.19 | flowtron | caracal : yeah. nasty little buggers :) |
| 10:56.25 | CaT[tm] | /irct |
| 10:56.32 | iciclebox | flowtron: how is xdm different from kdm or gdm? |
| 10:56.48 | flowtron | iciclebox : it' looks :) |
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| 10:56.57 | quik__ | what is the prettyest window manager? |
| 10:57.01 | quik__ | the most mac like one |
| 10:57.05 | flowtron | anyway. now gdm is working again. as it should :) |
| 10:57.08 | quik__ | seeing as I'm on macs all day at work |
| 10:57.12 | caracal | flowtron: i'm very glad |
| 10:57.19 | flowtron | me too! |
| 10:57.30 | EdLin | quik__: maybe evolution |
| 10:57.31 | fireba11 | quik__: you can get about any wm to look like mac OS if you really want |
| 10:57.32 | ft | quik__: fvwm has got a mac theme |
| 10:57.34 | flowtron | well. thanks and : stay linux! |
| 10:57.35 | flowtron | CU |
| 10:57.36 | caracal | quik__: i dunno from mac, but i have heard that some wm's have an "aqua" theme |
| 10:57.37 | EdLin | quik__: mac like? probably GNOME |
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| 10:57.53 | EdLin | s/evolution/enlightenment/ |
| 10:57.58 | quik__ | gnome looks like it was made by cavemen! |
| 10:58.11 | fireba11 | quik__: enlightenment got a high fancy-index though :-) |
| 10:58.12 | caracal | that's just the default "caveman" theme <g> |
| 10:58.17 | quik__ | screenshots of windowmanager a broken for me |
| 10:58.31 | iciclebox | sep: where is the system wide .bashrc file? |
| 10:58.48 | ft | iciclebox: man bash FILES section |
| 10:59.00 | ronin | prettyest window manager? well seeing as you can theme them all they all can be pretty |
| 10:59.40 | caracal | quik__: windowmaker and afterstep were originally patterned after the NeXTstep wm ... but i have heard that OS/X doesn't use that one, jobs had a better idea |
| 10:59.53 | iciclebox | anyone knows where I can get the best replica of the Windows theme? I'm still very used to Windows, so that would ease my transition into Linux |
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| 11:00.11 | ronin | iciclebox: ewww, but look on kde-look.org there used to be one there |
| 11:00.23 | fireba11 | iciclebox: uhm .. you sure you want that? :-) |
| 11:00.23 | ft | iciclebox: fvwm with Redmond XP theme :-) |
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| 11:00.28 | iciclebox | heh thanks |
| 11:00.38 | iciclebox | is the XP look that bad? |
| 11:00.45 | EdLin | iciclebox: there's fvwm95, but I don't recommend it |
| 11:00.51 | caracal | to most of us, that sounds like "where can i find an icepick, i want to stab myself in the eye" <g> |
| 11:00.55 | fireba11 | iciclebox: way too much teletubbies |
| 11:01.19 | quik__ | watching debian download a couple hundread MB of stuff isn't very fun |
| 11:01.35 | caracal | quik__: that's why pr0n was invented ;) |
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| 11:01.39 | d4d0|work | !kp mantra |
| 11:01.39 | dpkg | The kernel compilation mantra is make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
| 11:01.42 | ronin | have to admit though if hell freezes over and i talk my boss into letting us run linux on users desktops id probibly use an xp theme, if only to cut down on the whining at first about wheres this or that |
| 11:01.53 | EdLin | quik__: a couple hundred megs? What did you pick? |
| 11:01.56 | fireba11 | which reminds me .. i need to get a good layout for my box at work ... still xp with defaults .. so ugly .. |
| 11:02.17 | quik__ | EdLin: installing now after netinstall... |
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| 11:02.51 | AKX | Hey, how can I get a list of packages that are to be [dist-]upgraded without actually upgrading them? |
| 11:02.53 | cyzie | is there a quickto website shows hwo to configure debian on laptop ? |
| 11:02.57 | EdLin | quik__: you probably picked desktop environment in tasksel |
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| 11:03.05 | d4d0|wor1 | !kp mantra |
| 11:03.06 | dpkg | The kernel compilation mantra is make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
| 11:03.36 | EdLin | d4d0|wor1: /msg dpkg |
| 11:03.54 | d4d0|work | EdLin: ? |
| 11:04.02 | caracal | AKX: it lets you confirm the list before actually doing the upgrade, so just doing an "aptitude dist-upgrade" is enough (or apt-get) |
| 11:04.11 | ft | cyzie: depends on your laptop, check out <http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/> |
| 11:04.21 | EdLin | d4d0|work: /msg dpkg kp mantra |
| 11:04.22 | AKX | caracal, i'd like to script it |
| 11:04.24 | quik__ | EdLin: What would that do? |
| 11:04.27 | iciclebox | terrible! there is a Linux XP, which doesn't even allow you to go into the command line |
| 11:04.48 | ft | cyzie: or <http://tuxmobil.org/> |
| 11:04.50 | caracal | AKX: i think aptitude has a "preview" option, but i've never used it, so dunno if it would do what you want |
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| 11:05.07 | EdLin | quik__: make your system install KDE, GNOME, and all sorts of unnecesesary stuff |
| 11:05.23 | quik__ | EdLin: I'll see what its up to then |
| 11:05.29 | cyzie | ft http://www.linuxwiki.de/LinuxHardware/NoteBooks/Compaq/nx5000 <== this is my laptop model UNfortunately it is in german. i dnot know german. sorry. |
| 11:05.32 | caracal | AKX: yeah, it's called "--simulate" |
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| 11:06.10 | AKX | let's see... |
| 11:06.11 | EdLin | cyzie: babelfish.altavista.com works wonders |
| 11:06.40 | caracal | AKX: you'd have to parse the output, though, which would suck ... there's probably a perl module that would give you the answer you seek in a more programmatic form |
| 11:06.45 | cyzie | EdLin, not a good idea though. :) if a few sentence then it is fine. but not the whole webpage |
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| 11:07.22 | EdLin | cyzie: sometimes it works halfway decent |
| 11:07.47 | RichiH | !find ipsumdump |
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| 11:08.47 | AKX | caracal, thanks for the help.. I guess something like echo n | apt-get -s upgrade >file_to_be_parsed.txt might work |
| 11:09.05 | TERRAN | Hi all |
| 11:09.20 | AKX | No, wait, the echo's redundant |
| 11:09.23 | AKX | That's cool |
| 11:09.31 | AKX | "Inst ucf [2.004] (2.005 Debian:testing)" is easy to parse |
| 11:09.47 | TERRAN | How to install debian sarge on sata hard with intell controller? |
| 11:09.48 | ft | cyzie: not my laptop, and i'm a little too busy to translate for you :) |
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| 11:10.36 | ft | cyzie: <http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7845> |
| 11:10.58 | d4d0|work | is there a netinstaller containing the latest kernel and cpufreq support? |
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| 11:11.33 | TERRAN | Hmm, i use 2 dvd |
| 11:11.36 | fireba11 | !tell d4d0|wor1about sarge 2.6.14 |
| 11:11.46 | fireba11 | err |
| 11:11.51 | fireba11 | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 11:11.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
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| 11:12.37 | The_Ball | how large files does nfs handle? |
| 11:12.42 | The_Ball | over 200gb? |
| 11:12.46 | cyzie | ft, thanks for great help. let me check http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7845 |
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| 11:13.01 | CountZ | any idea what uses port 9985? |
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| 11:14.00 | d4d0|work | CountZ: can be anything |
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| 11:14.26 | d4d0|work | fireba11: have you tried it. does it have also cpu freq support built in? |
| 11:14.30 | CountZ | d4d0|work: some box, always the same box, is trying to reach one of my servers, always the same server, and always on that port... |
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| 11:14.47 | d4d0|work | CountZ: block the ip |
| 11:14.57 | CountZ | the port is blocked in the firewall |
| 11:15.03 | CountZ | I was just curious, watching the fw logs |
| 11:15.05 | fireba11 | d4d0|work don't knwo about that .. just look up the debian kernel .. it's a sid kernel i think |
| 11:15.09 | cyzie | ft, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7845 explain the hardware rather than what i want to achieve. :/ |
| 11:15.11 | d4d0|work | CountZ: block the ip too and disable the logs for it |
| 11:15.24 | CountZ | it's a dynamic ip, somebody from home |
| 11:15.29 | cyzie | ft, nonetheless, thanks for that site too. |
| 11:15.30 | CountZ | but never mind, I was just curious |
| 11:15.31 | d4d0|work | fireba11: but is it sarge debian? or sid too? |
| 11:15.40 | bartden | hi, how can i search for a package ? |
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| 11:15.50 | bartden | so i can install it trough apt get |
| 11:15.53 | d4d0|work | bartden: apt-cache search packagename |
| 11:16.00 | CountZ | bartden: apt-cache search <pkg name> |
| 11:16.30 | bartden | k thx |
| 11:16.57 | quik__ | to install kde, its simply "apt-get install kde", right? |
| 11:17.03 | quik__ | there is nothing more to it |
| 11:17.05 | fireba11 | d4d0|work it is a sare installer modified with the new kernel .. some pople with new SATA controllers need it to be able to install at all :-) |
| 11:17.11 | fireba11 | sarge even |
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| 11:18.02 | d4d0|work | fireba11: ah ok. i guess the 3ware RAID controller users then |
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| 11:18.15 | CountZ | That's me |
| 11:18.22 | int21h | . |
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| 11:18.29 | d4d0|work | fireba11: i wanted to make a own custom installer. but http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt did not work for me |
| 11:18.45 | d4d0|work | fireba11: do you know of any better, more precise howto? |
| 11:19.07 | ft | cyzie: well, what exactly do you want to achieve? |
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| 11:20.26 | cyzie | ft, i install debian (etch) + xfce today. i have no problem install alsa and sounds work. now the problem is, there are still things in windows that i want to achieve in debian. things like, hibernate, battery meter shows, sd card reader, irda, hotkeys |
| 11:20.54 | azeem | cyzie: some of them are quite hard |
| 11:21.07 | th0ger | Hi, i want to upgrade from sarge to sid. The sources.list contains both stabel+unstable+testing. How should I edit my apt/preferences file? It has Pin-Priority: 600 for stable, and 550 for unstable |
| 11:21.15 | azeem | battery meter should be easy, but I do not know whether a XFCE program exists for that |
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| 11:21.20 | cyzie | azeem, i know. that is why i posted the questions here :) |
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| 11:21.39 | azeem | cyzie: that is a notebook, right? |
| 11:21.58 | cyzie | azeem, yes, HP NX5000 |
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| 11:22.07 | azeem | cyzie: did you have a look at www.tuxmobile.org etc.? |
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| 11:22.42 | fireba11 | d4d0|work: no, sorry |
| 11:22.43 | cyzie | azeem, check this "xfce4-battery-plugin" <== but i never get this program running because i dont knwo where it install and what command to launch it. |
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| 11:23.00 | azeem | cyzie: run dpkg -L xfce4-battery-plugin | grep bin |
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| 11:23.03 | cyzie | azeem, yes, i did. i pick the closest then i will reference it soon. |
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| 11:23.11 | cyzie | azeem, noted |
| 11:23.16 | azeem | cyzie: that will give you a list of programs contained in it |
| 11:23.25 | quik__ | cheers folks |
| 11:23.27 | azeem | cyzie: sd card readers are quite tough, only recently a kernel driver has been developped, that either takes a while to make its way into Debian, or you need to compile a kernel/module yourself with experimental drivers |
| 11:23.28 | quik__ | laters. |
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| 11:23.58 | azeem | cyzie: for irda, best check google for your notebook, it should be possible, but likely takes some manual fiddling |
| 11:24.11 | cyzie | azeem, i will not take that hassle for sd card reader then. i will wait for later kernel upgrade |
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| 11:25.35 | Plushy | Hi it's me again, I was installing Debian from netinstall iso, and after dling half of the packets my pc shutdown due to powercut, due I have to dl all the packets again or is there some other method? |
| 11:25.39 | bartden | how can i make apt-get use ipv4 instead of ipv6 |
| 11:26.05 | fireba11 | Plushy: no .. apt-get will resume downloads .. you just have to tell him what packages to install |
| 11:26.53 | Plushy | fireba11> you mean it will dl all of them again? |
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| 11:27.15 | fireba11 | Plushy: as i said it will RESUME downloads |
| 11:28.00 | cyzie | azeem, dpkg -L xfce4-battery-plugin | grep bin <== no result |
| 11:28.08 | caracal | if apt has already d/l'ed a package file, he won't get it again unless you force him to |
| 11:28.37 | caracal | they live in /var/cache/apt/archives until you delete them |
| 11:29.02 | Plushy | I don't know if I'm forcing him or not, I just press enter enter enter |
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| 11:29.19 | SerajewelKS | Plushy: TIAS |
| 11:29.29 | caracal | then you're probably not |
| 11:29.47 | azeem | cyzie: see /usr/share/doc/xfce4-battery-plugin/README then, maybe |
| 11:29.52 | Plushy | but he still starts dling them all over again |
| 11:29.59 | azeem | cyzie: sorry, I don't run XFCE, I don't know how to start plugins |
| 11:30.16 | Plushy | when there is that menu to choose source like cdrom,http,ftp |
| 11:30.16 | azeem | cyzie: there is also README.Debian |
| 11:30.20 | cyzie | azeem, it's oaky. but u arelady gave me a few good hints |
| 11:30.27 | Plushy | is there an option to force him not to dl? |
| 11:30.28 | cyzie | yeap. im checking now |
| 11:30.54 | SerajewelKS | Plushy: not really. just let it finish. |
| 11:31.03 | caracal | Plushy: there's a --no-download option for apt-get, but you normally don't need it |
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| 11:32.01 | fireba11 | caracal: it's nice to check what apt-get upgrade would do though :-) |
| 11:32.19 | Plushy | oh well I'll just start again, it's just two hours of dl lost |
| 11:32.22 | cyzie | azeem, for the readme.debian. it ask me about enable ACPI |
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| 11:32.31 | bartden | how can i disable the system beep in console ? |
| 11:32.34 | caracal | fireba11: i agree with your earlier statement ... every time i've used it, he checks which packages he already has, and doesn't re-download them |
| 11:32.41 | cyzie | azeem, CONFIG_ACPI, CONFIG)_ACPI_AC, CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY. where can i enable it ? |
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| 11:32.49 | azeem | cyzie: I assume that is alredy enabled |
| 11:32.53 | fireba11 | caracal: even works for partial downloads ... |
| 11:32.59 | caracal | yes |
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| 11:33.19 | azeem | cyzie: does "acpi -b" yield something? |
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| 11:33.48 | cyzie | azeem, yes, acpi -b shows my battery is currently discharging now :) |
| 11:34.01 | azeem | ok, so you should have kernel support |
| 11:34.08 | azeem | you just need to figure out how to load/start the pluging |
| 11:34.31 | cyzie | azeem, LoL, dpkg -L xxx | grep bin does nto show result :) |
| 11:34.56 | azeem | cyzie: yeah, as it is a plugin, it resides in /usr/lib |
| 11:35.00 | azeem | try | grep lib instead |
| 11:35.11 | azeem | you probably cannot run that directly |
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| 11:35.54 | _iH8|lp | g'day people! |
| 11:36.39 | d4d0|work | http://pastebin.com/544748 anybody an idea what happened here? (kernel compile) |
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| 11:36.46 | cyzie | azeem, yes, | grep lib got results. yes, i cannot run that directly because it is not executable. .so files |
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| 11:37.14 | pdani_ | hi |
| 11:37.19 | azeem | cyzie: maybe google for "xfce plugin", or see whether there is some more general xfce documentation availabl |
| 11:38.28 | cyzie | azeem! i discovered it! woot woot |
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| 11:38.39 | cyzie | ehehhe.. thanks for your GREAT help :) |
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| 11:39.36 | cyzie | azeem, ft, thanks for help. i think i need to read the tuxmobile webpage now. i will get back here if i encounter problems later. thanks again |
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| 11:43.46 | digijohn | Hello everyone, I was just wondering what kind of strain a whole lot of ssh connections will put on a server as compared to a whole lot of telnet connections |
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| 11:44.29 | tintamar | hy all |
| 11:44.31 | tintamar | i've installed debian on an AMD64 and it has installed 64bit libraries, how can i force to install 32 bit too? |
| 11:44.37 | vulture | why would you even consider telnet connections.. *shudder* |
| 11:44.44 | sep | digijohn, obviously more cpu activity since ssh is encrypted |
| 11:45.46 | pdani_ | how can i download a debian package, if packages.debian.org's search engine doesn't work? |
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| 11:46.12 | digijohn | vulture: Well, it's registration day at my college, and the registration is handled by several vax machines. They can be accessed by web, telnet, or ssh. We're having a bit of an argument on another channel about whether or not people using ssh connections are slowing down the systems too much for other users. |
| 11:46.20 | tintamar | BORKED: packages.d.o, use pdo.debian.net instead | |
| 11:46.42 | tintamar | •pdani_• BORKED: packages.d.o, use pdo.debian.net instead | |
| 11:46.50 | pdani_ | thx |
| 11:46.50 | digijohn | *I* think the main problem is that about 1000 people are all trying to use those machines at the same time. |
| 11:47.16 | vulture | digijohn: why would you even let people access it through insecure means (or if you really want throw it all in - why have secure access?) |
| 11:47.24 | vulture | *shrugs* |
| 11:47.44 | vulture | but yes, ssh will place a non-zero load on processors |
| 11:48.18 | digijohn | vulture: I don't know. This other guy claims that since we use only switches here at school, nobody could sniff (or whatever the terminology is) your telnet connection very easily. |
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| 11:48.57 | AKX | Er, how do I a) redirect stderr to a file and b) check for the exit status in shell scripts? (/me is a shell script newbie.) |
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| 11:50.17 | vulture | digijohn: all sorts of nasty spoofing attacks don't make the issue quite so simple. (but if that's the theory - why have ssh access?) |
| 11:50.22 | d4d0|work | AKX: command 2> error.log |
| 11:50.58 | _SerhaT_ | AKX: $? should contain the latest exit status I think.. |
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| 11:51.19 | d4d0|work | nobody any clue about my compile error? |
| 11:51.33 | Grant_ | Hey guys, lost a .conf file for amavis can reinstall the package and get the .conf back? or is there a special dpkg command? |
| 11:51.45 | AKX | Aight, can I concatenate both stdout and stderr to the same output file, like command >>foo.log 2>>foo.log |
| 11:52.17 | caracal | AKX: >>foo.log 2>&1 (in bash and other bourne-flavored shells) |
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| 11:53.42 | bartden | hi, i'm tryin to install ipw2200 on my debian laptop, but each time i do a apt-get install ipw2200-source, it says that it cant find it, should i add a special source list line ?? |
| 11:54.17 | neclepsio | hi... I cannot install Debian 3.1 on my HP/Compaq nx5000 laptop... can anyone help me? |
| 11:54.25 | d4d0|work | bartden: apt-cache search ipw2000 |
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| 11:55.28 | bartden | d4d0|work it only found the firmware |
| 11:55.51 | d4d0|work | bartden: im not sure then, sorry |
| 11:55.54 | fatal___ | neclepsio: there are plenty of people who can do that, but I'm guessing noone in here is interested in coming over to you and do it for you.. |
| 11:56.01 | AKX | Alright, how does if work in shell scripts? |
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| 11:56.23 | caracal | AKX: very well, thank you <g> |
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| 11:56.23 | AKX | "if [ $? eq 0 ]" ? |
| 11:57.04 | caracal | AKX: use "=" or "-eq", not just "eq" |
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| 11:57.12 | neclepsio | don't want someone does for me... the problem is I get a deadlock after unpacking, when it configure packages |
| 11:57.14 | caracal | and check out "man test" |
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| 11:57.54 | neclepsio | it randomilly stops at about libid3tag0, with CD led on, and doesn't switch console or reboot on ctrl-alt-del |
| 11:58.13 | AKX | Alright, thanks again caracal |
| 11:58.29 | AKX | And "fi" to close blocks? |
| 11:58.34 | caracal | yes |
| 11:58.57 | neclepsio | then, when I reboot, it locks at about "statd" or "cron" loading, with exactly the same behaviour |
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| 11:59.18 | neclepsio | I can start in restoration mode, but i don't know how to restart the base configuration |
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| 11:59.54 | rovragge | Hello. I have two sound cards (emu10k1 and via82xx). How do I configure the device files in /dev and alsa so that skype (using oss emulation) uses the mic capture of the second card (via82xx) ? |
| 12:01.43 | neclepsio | I formatted and retry installing 3 times... always the same problem, but in points a bit different (just after or just before libid3tag0) |
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| 12:01.59 | AKX | if [ $? = 0 ] <cr> python /root/scripts/upnotify.py <cr>fi |
| 12:02.02 | caracal | rovragge: i would have expected them to appear as /dev/dsp0 and /dev/dsp1 ... and i know zip about skype, but can't you configure which sound device it uses? |
| 12:02.04 | priyank | hey, i just installed the new kernel through apt-get. when i rebooted, i got lots of udev related errors.. |
| 12:02.06 | neclepsio | fatal___: can you help me now? |
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| 12:02.08 | AKX | that gives me a token error at "fi" |
| 12:02.09 | priyank | any idea whats wrong? |
| 12:02.14 | caracal | AKX: looks like you're missing a "then" |
| 12:02.19 | AKX | aight |
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| 12:02.32 | AKX | Thanks :) |
| 12:02.35 | caracal | AKX: if condition ; then (don't forget the semi, or put the "then" on the next line) |
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| 12:04.31 | Rudolf | why X.org don't usefull in debian sarge tree? |
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| 12:06.01 | priyank | hey, which file do i need to edit in order to add new daemons at startup ? |
| 12:07.13 | fireba11 | priyank man update-rc.d |
| 12:07.32 | priyank | fireba11: coool. thanks :) |
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| 12:08.18 | priyank | fireba11: you know why udev gives lots of errors while starting up ? i just installed new kernel and rebooted. and then i get these errors |
| 12:08.51 | fireba11 | priyank: what debian version you got, from what kernel to what kernel |
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| 12:09.04 | priyank | kernel 2.6.8 to kernel 2.6.15 |
| 12:09.36 | prog | hello, i have here RocketRAID 464 hardware raid. i set up raid5 in its Bios, but I still see four disks instead of big one. do i need special driver for this ? |
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| 12:10.51 | priyank | fireba11: kernel 2.6.8-386 --> 2.6.15-1-686 |
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| 12:11.24 | orgy | :confuse Rudolf |
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| 12:14.45 | neclepsio | [2] Can anyone help me with installation? it freezes while configuring packages, with the cd led on and with no console switching or even ctrl-alt-del... |
| 12:16.37 | fireba11 | priyank: as far as i know there are some udev changes somewhere in between those .. |
| 12:16.56 | prog | neclepsio: bad cdrom media or cdrom ? |
| 12:17.20 | priyank | fireba11: ?/ |
| 12:17.57 | neclepsio | prog: bad cdrom: it works well under windows, and knoppix DVD boots well |
| 12:18.18 | neclepsio | prog: as for bad media, you think i should try to re-download the DVD image? |
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| 12:18.55 | prog | neclepsio: no yet, i guess ;-) |
| 12:18.58 | neclepsio | prog: is there any way to check the MD5 directly from the DVD without having access to the images? |
| 12:19.12 | orgy | neclepsio: you'd better use a netinstall cd if you have a decent bandwidth |
| 12:19.30 | prog | neclepsio: sure, but im afraid that it is not your problem (connected with md5 checksums ) |
| 12:19.33 | neclepsio | don't have a decent bandwidth... |
| 12:19.42 | neclepsio | a friend downloaded the images |
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| 12:20.04 | neclepsio | prog: what you think the problem ca be? |
| 12:20.25 | prog | neclepsio: im not sure, probably bad media |
| 12:20.42 | prog | neclepsio: can you switch to another console ? |
| 12:20.57 | neclepsio | prog: no. it's completely frozen |
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| 12:21.10 | neclepsio | prog: neither ctrl-alt-del |
| 12:21.30 | neclepsio | prog: neither keeping pressed the power button: I have to unplug and disconnect battery |
| 12:21.37 | bykte | lol |
| 12:21.40 | weissi | neclepsio: but the keyboard leds(caps lock,scroll lock&num lock) do not blink, do they? |
| 12:21.50 | neclepsio | weissi: don't blink |
| 12:22.11 | caracal | you have angered the gods |
| 12:22.14 | weissi | neclepsio: ok, so probably no kernel panic, do you use X? |
| 12:22.17 | neclepsio | neclepsio: just the dvd led keeps on |
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| 12:22.33 | neclepsio | weissi: no other activity |
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| 12:23.01 | weissi | neclepsio: no X windows? |
| 12:23.09 | weissi | s/windows/window/ |
| 12:23.28 | prog | neclepsio, can you turn acpi off in your bios ? can you check whether there is no irq conflict ? |
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| 12:24.17 | neclepsio | prog: I think I can turn acpi off. as for irq conflicts, there should't be on a laptop without any external peripheral connected, or i'm wrong? |
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| 12:24.36 | neclepsio | weissi: no x-windows... I can't install it |
| 12:24.44 | weissi | neclepsio: yeah, prog's idea is good, try booting with "noapm noapic pci=noacpi" |
| 12:25.06 | weissi | neclepsio: (as kernel options on the lilo/grub boot prompt) |
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| 12:25.24 | neclepsio | prog, weissi: but knoppix boots well with acpi enabled... |
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| 12:25.40 | liatsa | are the system passwords encrypted in DES? |
| 12:25.43 | liatsa | in /etc/shadow i mena |
| 12:25.45 | liatsa | *mean |
| 12:26.13 | weissi | neclepsio: I would give it a try (perhaps a kernel bug) |
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| 12:27.27 | neclepsio | another question: how can I start just the base configuration program (debconf?) from the restoration console? do I have to re-partion and reinstall all each time? |
| 12:27.37 | EdLin | litage: Debian can use DES or MD5. |
| 12:28.42 | liatsa | EdLin yeah, so i mean the standart is DES, right? |
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| 12:29.13 | m_athias | neclepsio: base-config |
| 12:29.18 | The_Ball | I am having trouble with AoE and http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8149 says that "Debian sarge system running a 2.6 kernel. Sarge doesn't support large minor device numbers yet" so he needs to make the AoE module with make AOE_PARTITIONS=1 install, why isn't the debian kernel patched for this? |
| 12:29.25 | EdLin | liatsa: the problem with DES is that the password length limit is a bit too small |
| 12:29.32 | Blue-Steel | can any one give me a good arpwatch how to ? or at least some good info about it other than 'man arpwatch' |
| 12:29.38 | EdLin | liatsa: but you might need it if you're using NIS |
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| 12:30.01 | neclepsio | m_athias: thank you |
| 12:30.28 | EdLin | Blue-Steel: check out what's in /usr/share/doc. Else google is your friend |
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| 12:30.38 | neclepsio | prog, weissi: thank you, I'll try disabling acpi |
| 12:30.38 | CaT[tm] | fun |
| 12:30.44 | CaT[tm] | oops |
| 12:30.55 | zirikili | where there is a nice debian post install tutorial? |
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| 12:31.38 | ronin | post install tutorial? |
| 12:31.48 | liatsa | EdLin right. it's limited to 8 chars no? |
| 12:31.55 | SerajewelKS | zirikili: press power switch, log in, enjoy |
| 12:32.05 | EdLin | liatsa: I think so. |
| 12:33.34 | zirikili | ronin: I mean, how to configure other hardware like usb, webcam, communication with pda, cups, etc |
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| 12:36.33 | bartden | hi, i need some help setting up my wifi connection, i installed ipw2200 and the firmware, when i do a iwconfig i see that eth0 is detected and finds my AP DLINKWAP, but it isnt associated, how can i get an ip from the AP (using dhcp) |
| 12:36.54 | neclepsio | hi, where can i find the 3.1r0a dvd md5? |
| 12:37.06 | bartden | any help or a good howto would be appreciated |
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| 12:37.45 | weissi | zirikili: on http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/ you can find many howtos... (it isn't debian specific, but most of them can be done in debian similarily) |
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| 12:38.11 | neclepsio | found! |
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| 12:38.18 | micahf | hey I don't know if anyone remembers me from the other day |
| 12:38.25 | micahf | but I got all of this crap working |
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| 12:38.28 | prog | neclepsio, dist/stable/Release |
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| 12:38.42 | micahf | I got wireless working before ethernet |
| 12:38.46 | micahf | so I'm just using that now |
| 12:38.49 | telecentro | ola |
| 12:38.56 | micahf | then I got translucency working |
| 12:39.09 | telecentro | you name? |
| 12:39.14 | micahf | so I have fast drop shadows |
| 12:39.16 | vin` | bartden: man wireless |
| 12:39.20 | azeem | micahf: cool |
| 12:39.27 | micahf | yea it's so cool |
| 12:39.29 | SerajewelKS | micahf: what did you do to enable that? |
| 12:39.32 | micahf | and there is faiding and stuff |
| 12:39.41 | micahf | serajewelKS, the drop shadows? |
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| 12:39.55 | SerajewelKS | micahf: composite windows, yeh |
| 12:39.56 | micahf | serajewelKS, the XComposite extension |
| 12:40.11 | SerajewelKS | micahf: i asked what you did |
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| 12:40.36 | micahf | serajewel, let me grab you my xorg.conf device section :D |
| 12:40.39 | neclepsio | prog: stable (sarge) |
| 12:40.54 | SerajewelKS | micahf: did it involve installing libxcomposite1? |
| 12:40.59 | neclepsio | prog: 3.1r0a |
| 12:41.03 | micahf | yes |
| 12:41.07 | micahf | need that installed |
| 12:41.28 | SerajewelKS | micahf: hrm it's already installed |
| 12:41.51 | liatsa | EdLin im asking because i want to know if i can encrypt a password in DES with a c program and put the result inside /etc/shadow, would it work or is it some other encryption... |
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| 12:42.49 | shermhead | Question: Is there some elite apt source our there for apt-get to use? |
| 12:43.00 | micahf | http://www.pastebin.us/1123 |
| 12:43.06 | micahf | serajewelKS^^^ |
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| 12:43.07 | azeem | shermhead: elite? |
| 12:43.12 | liavas | ok back |
| 12:43.22 | SerajewelKS | micahf: thanks |
| 12:43.26 | shermhead | rephrase: apt source with a wider selection and the most up to date versions |
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| 12:43.36 | azeem | shermhead: for what use case? |
| 12:43.39 | micahf | SerajewelKS, then you need to also install xcompmgr |
| 12:43.42 | liavas | EdLin so is that possible? |
| 12:43.44 | SerajewelKS | micahf: ah, FX5500.. same card i just switched away from |
| 12:43.46 | azeem | shermhead: and for what version of Debian? |
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| 12:43.58 | micahf | serajewelKS, do you have nVidia? |
| 12:44.04 | SerajewelKS | micahf: yes, i got a 6600GT |
| 12:44.07 | micahf | woah! |
| 12:44.09 | SerajewelKS | !find /xcompmgr |
| 12:44.12 | micahf | wow it will be amazing! |
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| 12:44.17 | SerajewelKS | micahf: $166 on newegg, not bad |
| 12:44.24 | micahf | not bad |
| 12:44.30 | fantomas | Hi. I experience strange (imho) problem with packages. I'm on sarge and have OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 installed. When I do: 'apt-cache show openoffice.org' I see both 1.1.3 and 2.0.0-1bpo3 versions listed. Why this happens and can I installed OO 2.0? |
| 12:44.30 | micahf | performance with this is incredible though |
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| 12:44.40 | micahf | like quartz on mac os x |
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| 12:44.48 | SerajewelKS | micahf: yeah, FX5500 was a nice card, just needed something that could handle 1280x1024 |
| 12:44.54 | shermhead | azeem : I dont know.. case being I want to download all the neat stuff to play with |
| 12:44.54 | threat | hmmm DE == iso code for germany? |
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| 12:45.06 | micahf | serajewelKS, yours didn't? |
| 12:45.09 | SerajewelKS | micahf: without lagging like a constipated weiner dog |
| 12:45.15 | azeem | threat: yes |
| 12:45.18 | azeem | shermhead: like? |
| 12:45.18 | micahf | oh |
| 12:45.22 | micahf | hmm, mine isn't bad |
| 12:45.29 | SerajewelKS | micahf: what package is xcompmgr in |
| 12:45.30 | micahf | but I haven't tried 3D lately |
| 12:45.34 | shermhead | azeem : for instance I just installed centericq and its an old version |
| 12:45.39 | micahf | serajewelKS, I don't remember |
| 12:45.45 | azeem | shermhead: what version of Debian are you running? |
| 12:45.46 | micahf | serajewelKS, let me check |
| 12:45.48 | shermhead | azeem : installed via apt-get because takes too long to compile |
| 12:45.55 | SerajewelKS | micahf: dpkg -S ... |
| 12:45.57 | shermhead | azeem : im not sure how to find out what version I am running |
| 12:46.05 | azeem | shermhead: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 12:46.13 | azeem | and dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 12:46.47 | shermhead | azeem : 2.3.2.ds1-22 |
| 12:46.50 | SerajewelKS | micahf: `apt-cache search xcompmgr` gives me nothing |
| 12:47.36 | micahf | yea I think I might have gotten it elsewhere |
| 12:47.39 | azeem | shermhead: that's sarge, aka stable |
| 12:47.48 | Guerin | !suse |
| 12:47.49 | dpkg | i guess suse is a linux distribution that can be found at http://www.suse.com, or german, open source, *nix. . . you do the math. the root of all that is wrong and evil, or #suse |
| 12:47.59 | azeem | shermhead: you might want to consider moving to testing, which has newer stuff, but is less stable |
| 12:48.07 | micahf | serajewelKS, do you have the universe open? |
| 12:48.14 | SerajewelKS | micahf: what? |
| 12:48.14 | Guerin | !suse is also see http://www.omahns-home.co.uk/downloads/sles9.png |
| 12:48.15 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
| 12:48.16 | azeem | shermhead: however, you need to think twice, as you cannot downgrade to stable afterwards |
| 12:48.38 | shermhead | azeem : perfect.. so is there an a good unstable apt source you can reccomend? |
| 12:49.17 | azeem | shermhead: well, there is Debian's unstable |
| 12:49.21 | shermhead | azeem : this is a virtual machine I pay $10 a month for. Might be near impossible to change the distro version |
| 12:49.34 | azeem | shermhead: I wouldn't recommend any other sources for general-purpose things |
| 12:49.37 | micahf | serajewelKS, that's ubuntu, isn't it |
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| 12:49.37 | SerajewelKS | micahf: this it? http://packages.debian.org/experimental/x11/xcompmgr |
| 12:49.40 | micahf | yea |
| 12:49.43 | micahf | that's it |
| 12:49.44 | azeem | there exist various sources for specific needs, though |
| 12:49.45 | SerajewelKS | micahf: what's ubuntu |
| 12:49.45 | fulgas | heys |
| 12:49.52 | azeem | shermhead: you do not get support for unstable in here, though |
| 12:50.00 | micahf | serajewelKS, not sure |
| 12:50.03 | azeem | shermhead: people are expected to know what they are doing when they run unstable |
| 12:50.08 | fulgas | any netinstall iso for amd64 with kernel 2.6.14 ? |
| 12:50.28 | micahf | azeem, unstable has certainly always brought me good results |
| 12:50.35 | micahf | and I don't know what I'm doing |
| 12:50.57 | shermhead | azeem : I expect it. My uptime has been 3 months though running a http proxy for my office |
| 12:51.27 | azeem | micahf: then you might be lucky, I am talking about the general case |
| 12:51.36 | micahf | azeem, I know |
| 12:51.53 | shermhead | azeen : thanks I will look for an official unstable debian apt source I guess from what I gather |
| 12:51.59 | micahf | azeem, due to hardware problems though unstable has always had things that have helped me out in particular |
| 12:52.07 | micahf | things that make things at leats runable |
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| 12:52.52 | azeem | shermhead: just change "stable" to "unstable" in /etc/apt/sources.list then |
| 12:52.58 | azeem | shermhead: but remember by words from above |
| 12:53.25 | tiny | Looking at output of "dpkg -l", I see a lot of "rc" packages. These are Desired=r, Status=c. How can I remove/purge them quickly and not per package? |
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| 12:53.29 | SerajewelKS | micahf: brb |
| 12:53.36 | micahf | OK |
| 12:53.41 | micahf | good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 12:57.08 | tiny | Can I sort packages with size criteria. That is how much HD space they take? |
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| 12:57.26 | bushwakko | hey, I |
| 12:57.33 | sylvisj | How would I get wine to compile with a -march=athlon-xp flag? |
| 12:57.50 | bushwakko | hey, I'm making a debian pkg of a java project |
| 12:57.53 | sylvisj | I already added it under CFLAGS= under Makefile, but it doesn't seem to be reading it. |
| 12:58.26 | Guerin | sylvisj: building debian wine source, or upstream? |
| 12:58.32 | sylvisj | Source. |
| 12:58.42 | Guerin | sylvisj: #winehq |
| 12:58.57 | sylvisj | Already there - channel's 95+% dead. |
| 12:59.03 | Guerin | tough titties |
| 12:59.18 | Guerin | use the debian source and we might be able to help you |
| 12:59.27 | sylvisj | I don't see how a gcc optimization is a wine problem anyway :s |
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| 12:59.42 | Guerin | sylvisj: it's not, it's a makefile problem |
| 13:00.06 | Guerin | we don't know what files it reads, and since you clearly can't be arsed figuring it out, it's their job to support it, not ours |
| 13:00.20 | Guerin | use the debian source and I can tell you where the cflags and so should be set |
| 13:00.46 | sylvisj | I've been trying to figure this out for ~15 minutes, gave up. Debian Etch's wine source is 0.9.6, assume I'm using it. |
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| 13:01.02 | Guerin | sylvisj: edit debian/rules |
| 13:01.17 | sylvisj | thanks. |
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| 13:01.19 | Guerin | sylvisj: no debian/ dir in the source tree? see my advice above. |
| 13:01.33 | sylvisj | Guerin: apt-get --build source wine |
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| 13:01.50 | Guerin | sylvisj: won't magically edit the makefile for you |
| 13:01.53 | micahf | has anyone seen this? |
| 13:01.54 | micahf | http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ |
| 13:01.58 | micahf | it's insane |
| 13:02.03 | micahf | it's absolutely nuts |
| 13:02.04 | sylvisj | You're right. IT will, however, give me the Debian wine source. |
| 13:02.07 | micahf | it's like the future |
| 13:02.16 | Guerin | sylvisj: --build isn't necessary |
| 13:02.35 | sylvisj | Just going off the winehq instructions. |
| 13:03.05 | fireba11 | micahf: what about it ? |
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| 13:03.56 | sylvisj | ^_^ |
| 13:04.14 | micahf | fireball, it is a video, watch the video |
| 13:04.35 | pngwn | is the video about debian? |
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| 13:05.13 | Guerin | pngwn: answer: no. |
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| 13:05.19 | Guerin | !advocacy troll |
| 13:05.19 | dpkg | from memory, advocacy troll is a term that greycat made up to describe a troll who demands action (typically unreasonable or unachievable) "for the good of Debian". Example: "Debian needs to have a graphical installer to make it easier for end users to increase its market share!" Example: "The BTS should have a web interface for submitting bugs so we can have vague, misspelled, irreproducible PEBKAC errors and no way to contact the submitter!" |
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| 13:06.31 | sylvisj | Wow, attempted bot attack or net split? |
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| 13:06.59 | sylvisj | Looks like a failing bot attack to me... |
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| 13:07.51 | sylvisj | That was pretty sad. |
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| 13:07.59 | locus | hmm anyone used auth_ldap using ssl with apache2? |
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| 13:08.28 | locus | do i need to rebuild apache in order to use ssl with auth_ldap? |
| 13:08.36 | Hugle | hello all. is there any way to know if PC has 64bits PCI remotely? (via console) |
| 13:09.01 | prog | Hugle: dmesg, cat /proc/cpuinfo ... |
| 13:09.11 | blondie | umm |
| 13:09.14 | blondie | no |
| 13:09.21 | sylvisj | 64-bit pci...? |
| 13:09.29 | stew | Hugle: dmidecode would tell you |
| 13:09.30 | SerajewelKS | micahf: back |
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| 13:10.17 | ircdevil | sup - i just which network with this box, and now i cant get privoxy to work? browser works without privoxy? |
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| 13:10.30 | blondie | ircdevil: English please |
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| 13:10.33 | Hugle | prog, hm.. how it should look like if I had one ? |
| 13:10.44 | ircdevil | blondie: sorrey, switched network (typo :o) |
| 13:10.53 | Guerin | ircdevil: take three deep breaths and repeat in coherent english |
| 13:10.59 | Guerin | blondie: heh |
| 13:11.03 | blondie | :) |
| 13:11.46 | ircdevil | *pant* *pant* *pant* |
| 13:11.57 | Guerin | people who're offended by garlic breat aren't worth associating with anyway |
| 13:12.14 | beleys | Poy |
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| 13:12.53 | ircdevil | my guess is that privoxy didint like the switch of subnet |
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| 13:13.05 | prog | Hugle, somewhere written ? im not sure |
| 13:13.22 | stew | Hugle: dmidecode | grep -i pci |
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| 13:15.52 | k31th | wat does bash -r do as root ? |
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| 13:17.10 | tarzeau | k31th: forget -r shells |
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| 13:17.30 | tarzeau | k31th: you want debian gnu/kfreebsd jail! |
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| 13:17.41 | tarzeau | because chroot are jokes too |
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| 13:17.55 | k31th | tarzeau: no i accidently typed it as root, i ment to type history -r |
| 13:18.00 | jack8 | hi |
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| 13:18.06 | tarzeau | k31th: -r is for restricted shell |
| 13:18.12 | tarzeau | k31th: but it's not really useful |
| 13:18.14 | anabain | hi, is there any way to make diff show its output per character based, instead of per line? |
| 13:18.17 | micahf | hey |
| 13:18.36 | jack8 | trying to get nvidia drivers working have all this gcc probs and stuff can you help me out? |
| 13:18.48 | azeem | anabain: try worddiff, maybe |
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| 13:18.54 | anabain | thx |
| 13:18.54 | micahf | serajewelKS, did you get it to work? |
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| 13:19.05 | ircdevil | ok - all is good now |
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| 13:19.18 | k31th | tarzeau: if i logout and login again it wont be restricted ? |
| 13:19.18 | azeem | anabain: eh, wdiff |
| 13:19.26 | jack8 | should I install a new kernel? |
| 13:19.31 | insidius | hi all can someone link me to a good article on setting up to ftp into my space on my home apache server? |
| 13:19.42 | bartden | hi, i have a problem loading my ipw2200 module, i installed the 2.6.12 kernel (works fine), then rebooted into this kernel, then i compiled the ieee80211 and the ipw2200 modules, they compiled fine and are located in /lib/modules/2.6.12/... , but when i do modprobe ipw2200 i get FATAL: Module ipw2200 not found. , any ideas |
| 13:19.48 | tarzeau | k31th: just close the bash -r , and you're back to normal |
| 13:20.06 | anabain | right, azeem ! I was looking for worddiff and it didn't appear, thx very much |
| 13:20.38 | ronin | insidius: apt-get install ftp server of your choice |
| 13:20.59 | jack8 | I am on this problem for 6 Hours so please help me out |
| 13:21.07 | SerajewelKS | micahf: sort of |
| 13:21.07 | k31th | tarzeau: good, my ass dropped then |
| 13:21.24 | SerajewelKS | micahf: as in i can't tell. the KDE menu shadows don't look like they're using it. |
| 13:21.26 | fantomas | I can't install openoffice.org 2.0 from backports. I added records to /etc/apt/preferences but $apt-get install openoffice.org returns error: openoffice.org: Depends: openoffice.org-base but it is not going to be installed. Where is there problem? |
| 13:21.27 | micahf | SerajewelKS, you have to start xcompmgr with the right options |
| 13:21.32 | SerajewelKS | micahf: ah |
| 13:21.43 | hatake_kakashi | jack8: is there an absolute necessity to use the latest nvidia kernel? |
| 13:22.02 | micahf | serajewelKS, start xcompmgr like this: xcompmgr -n -c -f -F |
| 13:22.02 | locus | can anyone tell me whats the easiest way to make apache2's auth_ldap module ssl aware? besides recompiling the whole thing.. |
| 13:22.14 | micahf | for some reason putting them all together doesn't work for me |
| 13:23.02 | bibe | locus : apt-get install libapache-mod-authz-ldap |
| 13:23.18 | bibe | sorry, libapache2-mod-authz-ldap |
| 13:23.20 | fantomas | Would someone provide help with using backports? |
| 13:23.23 | locus | bibe, thats compiled for apache v1 |
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| 13:24.05 | bibe | fantomas : apt-get install the openoffice.org elements you need |
| 13:24.08 | k31th | Guys, box in a data centre. Would you bother firewalling it or just run the services i need? |
| 13:24.08 | locus | bibe, well I cant seem to find a mod_authz-ldap for apache 2.x |
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| 13:24.48 | fantomas | bibe: apt-get install openoffice.org returns error as I said... |
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| 13:25.46 | fantomas | wtf is going on? |
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| 13:26.09 | insidius | ? |
| 13:26.09 | bushwakko | ? |
| 13:26.14 | bushwakko | no chatting? |
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| 13:26.38 | micahf | serajewelKS, did that do it? |
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| 13:26.49 | insidius | hmmm anyway i still cant ftp into this thing then again my freind did help me set it up mabye its not done right |
| 13:26.51 | bushwakko | anyway, anyone know what the install-standard for java stuff is in debian? making .deb of a project |
| 13:26.54 | SerajewelKS | micahf: OOOOoooo.... |
| 13:27.08 | SerajewelKS | !micahf++ |
| 13:27.21 | micahf | yea |
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| 13:27.34 | micahf | ? |
| 13:27.37 | SerajewelKS | !karma micahf |
| 13:27.37 | dpkg | micahf has karma of 1 |
| 13:27.38 | where | eh salut |
| 13:27.49 | where | where is brian |
| 13:27.55 | where | ???????????????????????????? |
| 13:27.58 | fantomas | !karma caphuso |
| 13:27.58 | dpkg | caphuso has karma of 26 |
| 13:28.01 | azeem | where: uhm |
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| 13:28.10 | azeem | where: which brian? Are you in the right channel? |
| 13:28.11 | fantomas | !karma greycat |
| 13:28.12 | dpkg | greycat has karma of 48 |
| 13:28.13 | where | brian is in the kitchen ????????? |
| 13:28.22 | where | yes |
| 13:28.27 | azeem | where: drop the multiple exclamation marks instantly |
| 13:28.28 | micahf | !karma micahf |
| 13:28.29 | dpkg | micahf has karma of 1 |
| 13:28.38 | micahf | hmm, interesting |
| 13:28.46 | where | do you speak |
| 13:28.48 | bibe | fantomas : did you try (as specified on www.backports.org) apt-get -t sarge-backports install openoffice.org? |
| 13:28.49 | where | french |
| 13:28.51 | micahf | that is a new concept |
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| 13:29.07 | azeem | where: #debianfr |
| 13:29.16 | where | what |
| 13:29.27 | insidius | I set the ftp up but still cant access it. It just sits there and says connecting |
| 13:29.29 | fantomas | bibe: just tried. Same error |
| 13:29.29 | azeem | where: french is spoken in #debianfr, not here |
| 13:29.33 | neclepsio | hi, I have problems installing on hp compaq laptop nx5000: it completely freezes (no console switching, no kernel panic) while configuring packages during base-config |
| 13:30.19 | bibe | fantomas : then try to install directly the oo2 components you want: openoffice.org-writer, openoffice.org-calc, and so on |
| 13:30.22 | where | okok |
| 13:30.25 | azeem | neclepsio: did you try linux26? |
| 13:30.30 | where | think you |
| 13:30.35 | azeem | neclepsio: at the boot prompt of the install, I mean |
| 13:31.36 | SerajewelKS | micahf: karma is a little-known feature of dpkg |
| 13:32.19 | fantomas | bibe: its started to install things once I issued openoffice.org-writer. Thanks! |
| 13:32.30 | neclepsio | azeem: yes, and even with no acpu |
| 13:32.31 | neclepsio | apci |
| 13:33.01 | fantomas | bibe: does all this mean backports have no full version of OO2? |
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| 13:33.46 | bibe | fantomas : you had already an installation of openoffice lying around, isn't it? |
| 13:33.53 | fantomas | bibe: right |
| 13:34.21 | fantomas | bibe: ah, probably debian's oo2 has another architechture? |
| 13:34.30 | fantomas | which conflicts with oo1 |
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| 13:35.53 | bibe | fantomas : I think new packages' name policy (in sid, thus in backports) is a little different than the one in sarge |
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| 13:36.12 | bibe | fantomas : that's one of the common issues of apt-pinning |
| 13:36.37 | bibe | and, in general, of mixing "flavours" |
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| 13:37.34 | chertel | Hello allz! Does somebody have an Debian Sarge running on an x86_64 system? Perhaps someone may compile me an 2.6.15 kernel... I provide a .config and only need the bzImage afterwards. |
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| 13:38.20 | fireba11 | chertel: ? |
| 13:38.25 | cam | I have currently vsftpd pkg installed on my debian; i would like to install proftpd as well .. but if I do it'll remove vsftpd ... is there a way to tell apt to NOT remove vsftpd ? |
| 13:38.56 | fireba11 | cam apt expects you only got one FTP server runnning .. and you can't without changing ports anyway |
| 13:39.06 | chertel | fireba11: I only got a 32 bit gcc and am unable to compile it myself :-( |
| 13:39.06 | cam | (they'll run on different ports of course) |
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| 13:39.41 | fireba11 | chertel: you need 64-bit gcc to compile 64-bit kernel ? how did they make the first kernel then ? :-) |
| 13:40.21 | neclepsio | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.48 | chertel | fireba11: Please enlight me if you got a better idea.... :-) |
| 13:40.48 | fireba11 | cam. still i'm wondering why you want two different ftp running .. its only additional security risk |
| 13:41.17 | chertel | I know about about cross compiling.. but that sounds like a lot of work |
| 13:41.17 | fireba11 | chertel: can't .. i don't compile kernels myself .. i'm just wondering because it sounded like a egg-hen-problem |
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| 13:41.44 | chertel | fireba11: Exactly.. it is :-D |
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| 13:42.24 | cam | fireba11, it's only for testing purpose |
| 13:42.48 | myren | whats the start of line symbol for grep? |
| 13:42.58 | myren | its not ^ like every other regex in the world |
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| 13:43.15 | stew | cripes |
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| 13:43.45 | chertel | fireba11: What I "simply" intend to manage is installing Debian Sarge (x86_64) on a Dell PowerEdge 1850 with EM64T, but the kernel 2.6.8 on the CD iso does not support the Raid Controller.. it's too new :-( |
| 13:44.04 | fireba11 | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 13:44.04 | dpkg | well, sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 13:44.06 | stew | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 13:44.06 | dpkg | methinks sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm |
| 13:44.10 | fireba11 | hehe |
| 13:44.24 | neclepsio | [3] hi, I have problems installing on hp compaq laptop nx5000: it completely freezes (no console switching, no kernel panic) while configuring packages during base-config. I already tried with no apci |
| 13:44.29 | bushwakko | anyone know what the install-standard for java stuff is in debian? making .deb of a project |
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| 13:44.53 | stew | bushwakko: /msg dpkg java-package |
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| 13:45.24 | fireba11 | stew: what would you use .. 2.6.14 or 2.6.15 ? |
| 13:45.31 | insidius | ok i have got apace up and running on my machine i can access it from the net but i cant ftp into it does any know how to set it up, it keeps timimg out |
| 13:45.52 | stew | fireba11: dunno, probably .14 unless i needed 15 |
| 13:45.53 | fireba11 | insidius: install a ftp ? |
| 13:46.22 | chertel | The other sarge iso's are for the i386 platform, not x86_64 |
| 13:46.39 | fireba11 | hm .. true |
| 13:47.01 | fireba11 | don't know of any x86_64 with newer kernel |
| 13:47.21 | chertel | sad :-( |
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| 13:51.21 | insidius | can someone ping rcdarkangel.dyndsl.inspired.net.au and provide a average for me? |
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| 13:52.05 | quuesstionnerr | Hellow :-) I have another question today, it's simple ;-) |
| 13:52.11 | fireba11 | insidius: 328ms |
| 13:52.32 | insidius | thanks fireball? what country is that from? |
| 13:52.36 | bykte | 229ms |
| 13:52.38 | kneet | 677ms from here |
| 13:52.49 | fireba11 | insidius: from a 4 MBit line ... germany .. am getting >10ms from fast german servers |
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| 13:53.11 | hatake_kakashi | anyone know of an app that can rip ram streams and save it to a file? |
| 13:53.19 | insidius | ok thanks all just checking a few things |
| 13:53.31 | cahoot | hatake_kakashi: ecasound |
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| 13:53.50 | hatake_kakashi | cahoot: does that also handle videos? |
| 13:53.56 | cahoot | no |
| 13:54.11 | quuesstionnerr | When i start the comp he run auto and startup in 'Fluxfox' (that's nice), but i would like that when 'Fluxbox' are ready that he execute and run some apps like 'a' and 'b'. Where can i define to to run automatical some apps after the X env are loaded ? |
| 13:54.19 | hatake_kakashi | hmm :/ I need to look for a RAM video ripper :/ |
| 13:54.37 | hatake_kakashi | err stream ripper |
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| 13:55.59 | abrocadabro | how do I check if my cdrom is also a burner? |
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| 13:56.18 | tiny | Why is rsync still asking me for a password when I give it: --password-file=./pwdfile option |
| 13:56.24 | dr1v3r | guys i have tried installing postgresql but for some reason it is not picked up by my website. How can i check to see if i have fully installed it? |
| 13:56.27 | cusco | abrocadabro: cdrecord -scanbus |
| 13:56.41 | quuesstionnerr | abrocadabro: The most time there are an simbol on the face of it that indicate it |
| 13:56.47 | fireba11 | tiny dunno .. but why don't you use certificates ? |
| 13:56.48 | jewel | is gdk packaged within libgtk2.0? |
| 13:57.07 | abrocadabro | cusco: thanks |
| 13:57.18 | tiny | fireba11: dunno ... never used them |
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| 13:57.30 | abrocadabro | quuesstionnerr: I dont have GUI at the moment, it is through ssh |
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| 13:58.31 | abrocadabro | dr1v3r: what website? your own website with postgresql as a backend or a website like webmin to configure your postgresql |
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| 13:58.57 | dr1v3r | my own website, i do not have any webmin installed |
| 13:58.59 | bushwakko | anyone know what the install-standard for java stuff is in debian? making .deb of a project |
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| 13:59.13 | quuesstionnerr | I have 'pycrust' and 'pyshell' installed, from wish package comme it ? I can not find it and would like to install the same on an other computer |
| 13:59.15 | micheas | I have a problem with vsftpd. I have chroot_local_user=YES in the config file, but users get / instead of ~/ any ideas |
| 13:59.32 | abrocadabro | dr1v3r: is it using postgres as a backend server? |
| 13:59.41 | insidius | why would my ftp attempt keep timing out if i can access it from the web, how come i cant access it by ftp, i am using proftpd |
| 14:00.31 | dr1v3r | yea, well i am using a portal because i dont have any idea how to make a site from scratch yet lol, and in the config for the site it asks which database i will be using |
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| 14:00.53 | dr1v3r | so i have entered postgres but it ids not doing anything :( |
| 14:01.12 | dr1v3r | *is |
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| 14:01.39 | dr1v3r | i know it is something to do with my config of postgres this is why i am here :D |
| 14:01.42 | micheas | insidius: have you checked data_connection_timeout in your config file? |
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| 14:03.04 | abrocadabro | dr1v3r: /etc/init.d/postgres start, and have a look at /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf |
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| 14:03.30 | kneet | insidius, not sure what you mean by "I can access it from the web" - do you mean that http is working but not ftp? |
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| 14:04.14 | dr1v3r | i dont have a config file in there thats why i have a feeling it is not installed correctly |
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| 14:05.02 | fireba11 | dr1v3r: how did you install it ? |
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| 14:05.09 | dr1v3r | apt-get install |
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| 14:06.21 | DirkGently | what's this? bot attacks? |
| 14:06.27 | abrocadabro | apt-get install what? you need to be more specific, you said you didn't find the file, did you look around? or use locate to find if you have it elsewhere? |
| 14:06.34 | ronin | DirkGently: porn/spam bots getting killed off |
| 14:06.45 | fireba11 | dr1v3r: then it should be startable viar /etc/init.d/postgresql start |
| 14:06.48 | DirkGently | ronin: thought so :¬) |
| 14:06.59 | dr1v3r | its ok i think i have fixed it, 1 moment. i installed postgresql-dev and not postgresql |
| 14:07.10 | abrocadabro | see |
| 14:07.12 | DirkGently | lol |
| 14:07.16 | dr1v3r | sotty :( |
| 14:07.20 | dr1v3r | *sorry |
| 14:07.31 | fireba11 | ouch |
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| 14:08.31 | Fawzib | is thera a way to make dpkg-deb to follow symbolic links when building a package? |
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| 14:08.52 | azeem | Fawzib: what do you mean? |
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| 14:09.13 | azeem | Fawzib: what is the issue? |
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| 14:10.07 | Fawzib | instead of creating the link in the package I want it to use the file the link points to |
| 14:10.29 | Fawzib | or directory |
| 14:10.47 | azeem | Fawzib: are you building a source or binary package? |
| 14:11.15 | azeem | and why don't you dereference the link before calling dpkg-deb? |
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| 14:11.41 | Fawzib | binary (sort of, is python), the jabber transports (PyMSN,PyAIM,PyICQ) |
| 14:11.58 | azeem | Fawzib: what's wrong with having a symlink? |
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| 14:13.12 | gAri- | hi there |
| 14:13.56 | Fawzib | I just wanted to add a script to create the debfile to the tar.gz they distribute, so I just wanted to create the directory structure in their tar pointing to their files and just do something like ./create-deb to create the package |
| 14:14.08 | gAri- | I have plenty of apache sites-availible configuration files. I need to add an entry after every <VirtualHost *> line, anybody can help me out about scripting this? mostly with the open the file, put the entry after <VirtualHost *> part. |
| 14:14.28 | azeem | Fawzib: I suggest you make a proper .deb |
| 14:14.54 | Fawzib | yeah, thats what I feared |
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| 14:16.09 | Teolupus | I've reinstaled apache and php on my debian server (apt-get remove --purge apache php4 .......). After that I intalled it again, but now when I access http://127.0.0.1/index.php it tries to download the file instead of opening the php content. --- BTW: /etc/apache/httpd.conf has .php in DirectoryIndex and the AddType for .php |
| 14:16.13 | Fawzib | I have the debs already working (PyMSN,PyAIM, PyICQ) but was hoping to just drop the script and the directory structure, to make things easier |
| 14:16.30 | fireba11 | Teolupus: apache 1 or 2 ? |
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| 14:18.35 | kneet | Teolupus, and - did you reinstall the relevant libapache-mod-php4/libapache2-mod-php4 ? |
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| 14:20.06 | d4d0|work | http://pastebin.com/544748 anybody an idea how to fix that compile error? |
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| 14:20.52 | priyank | hey |
| 14:20.57 | rohan | :) |
| 14:21.00 | priyank | i get lots of errors when i boot |
| 14:21.06 | priyank | udev related errors |
| 14:21.07 | tijn | lucky you :D |
| 14:21.11 | priyank | lol |
| 14:21.13 | rohan | like ? paste them, priyank |
| 14:21.14 | rohan | tijn: lol |
| 14:21.17 | siegie | i have done a stupid thing in debian sudo chmod -R 666 / debian does not want to boot anymore i run now a ubuntu live cd, can someone tell me how to fix debian |
| 14:21.20 | priyank | rohan: i dont have it right now.. |
| 14:21.30 | abrotman | errors booting what? |
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| 14:21.33 | rohan | what about the X errors ? |
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| 14:21.38 | priyank | rohan: its something like, cannot execute `/lib/udev...` |
| 14:21.42 | priyank | abrotman: ^^ |
| 14:21.50 | priyank | abrotman: lots of them.. |
| 14:21.52 | abrotman | priyank: errors booting what? .. what distro .. what kernel? |
| 14:21.57 | rohan | abrotman: suse. |
| 14:22.02 | priyank | abrotman: Debian, 2.6.15-1 |
| 14:22.03 | rohan | abrotman: in #debian he will ask about suse. |
| 14:22.05 | rohan | :P |
| 14:22.13 | abrotman | so .. check the BTS |
| 14:22.17 | ronin | rohan: wouldnt be the first time |
| 14:22.24 | rohan | ronin: really ? |
| 14:22.31 | abrotman | resiak: HELP .. my debian accidentally installed suse! |
| 14:22.36 | abrotman | rohan: really |
| 14:22.39 | rohan | ronin: i meant it as a joke / sarcasm. |
| 14:22.41 | rohan | :( |
| 14:22.44 | ronin | rohan: seriously |
| 14:22.55 | joe_ | anybody got a link for how to solve broken public key? i'm trying an amd-64 install from netinstall and key fails, so I'm stuck with bare minimum install. |
| 14:22.57 | rohan | lol, thats to funny :D |
| 14:23.04 | abrotman | joe_: /topic ? |
| 14:23.04 | rohan | joe_: read the topic ? |
| 14:23.16 | rohan | priyank: what about the X thingie ? |
| 14:23.22 | priyank | yeah |
| 14:23.25 | priyank | even startx wont work. |
| 14:23.31 | abrotman | priyank: check the BTS .. and probably get us a more descriptive problem than "udev eats crap and dies" |
| 14:23.33 | rohan | howcome X works but not starts ? |
| 14:23.34 | priyank | startx: no such file or directory |
| 14:23.45 | rohan | priyank: cat `which startx` ? |
| 14:23.48 | abrotman | did you install x-window-system-core ? |
| 14:23.54 | priyank | abrotman: no |
| 14:23.59 | rohan | :) |
| 14:24.11 | abrotman | siegie: there is really no way to fix that |
| 14:24.19 | abrotman | priyank: there's a good plan |
| 14:24.25 | insidius | where is httpd.conf installed by default |
| 14:24.40 | abrotman | apache1 or 2 ? |
| 14:24.45 | cisse | insidius: find /etc -name httpd.conf |
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| 14:25.12 | cisse | or updatedb; locate httpd.conf |
| 14:25.33 | abrotman | cisse: apache2 doesn't really have an httpd.conf .. which was why i asked 1 or 2 |
| 14:25.35 | insidius | so if i apt-get apache am i geting 1 or 2? |
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| 14:25.46 | insidius | and which should i be using? |
| 14:25.47 | cisse | abrotman: true, it's just a placeholder right |
| 14:26.00 | abrotman | insidius: apache1 : /etc/apache/httpd.conf .. apache2: /etc/apache2/conf/apache2.conf |
| 14:26.04 | abrotman | or something close to that |
| 14:26.06 | cisse | insidus: apt has both 1 and 2, i use 2 personally |
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| 14:28.25 | lilo | #debian could use a good +J number on it to avoid getting all of those spambot waves |
| 14:28.33 | insidius | i think it i will stick with 1. I think that is what the work servers use |
| 14:28.56 | lilo | +Jf 30,3 #debian-overflow would rarely produce false positives |
| 14:29.32 | Nosf3ratu | I've got this annoying KDE issue ... I remove-purged all of KDE, moved my ~/.kde away, and reinstalled and it's still there. I've checked all over the BTS but I'm not sure really what package of kde it is that's causing it. |
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| 14:29.59 | Nosf3ratu | Whenever I open Konqueror or any KDE app that uses file browsing, it errors out with "The protocol for file browsing died unexpectedly." |
| 14:30.01 | azeem | lilo: thanks for pointing that out |
| 14:30.08 | *** part/#debian grind[off] (i=GusTav0@201-27-56-137.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 14:30.10 | Prudhvi | Hey, can i use Debian Sarge 3.1r1 and still get Gnome 2.10 |
| 14:30.20 | azeem | Prudhvi: not sure |
| 14:30.22 | abrotman | that's nto the real lilo! |
| 14:30.57 | abrotman | Prudhvi: sarge has 2.8 included |
| 14:31.20 | Prudhvi | abrotman: yeah!.But, i hate that look ;( |
| 14:31.25 | abrotman | chagne it? |
| 14:31.28 | chealer_ | Nosf3ratu: ask #debian-kde |
| 14:31.28 | insidius | is there a way to add a user to a certain group when you first create them/?] |
| 14:31.34 | abrotman | yes |
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| 14:31.50 | Prudhvi | abrotman: like how? |
| 14:31.52 | Nosf3ratu | Ok chealer_ |
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| 14:32.22 | lilo | +l isn't really that helpful, it doesn't do much for flapping |
| 14:32.45 | lilo | with 30,3 you won't get many false positives, and you will get a lot less crud when the problems happen |
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| 14:33.01 | cisse | insidus: adduser --ingroup i think |
| 14:33.08 | lilo | whoever sets such things might want to consider pointing to ##overflow for now so we can catch the botnets a bit easier |
| 14:33.10 | *** mode/#debian [+J 30,3] by mentor |
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| 14:33.21 | lilo | mentor: don't forget the |
| 14:33.26 | lilo | mentor: don't forget the +f #channelname |
| 14:33.34 | *** mode/#debian [+Jf 30,3 #debian-overflow] by mentor |
| 14:33.38 | mentor | hmmm |
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| 14:33.40 | mentor | hang on |
| 14:33.44 | insidius | we had someone launch an exploit a while ago on one of work servers who then went on to run a irc bot and bring a 2 mb connection to its knees |
| 14:33.48 | lilo | mentor: can you do ##overflow ? it'll help us right now....fewer channels to monitor |
| 14:34.14 | *** mode/#debian [+f ##overflow] by mentor |
| 14:34.19 | lilo | bless you :) |
| 14:34.23 | *** mode/#debian [-o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 14:35.01 | mentor | You can't hide from lilo |
| 14:35.10 | mentor | Not in this place, anyway |
| 14:35.14 | abrotman | heh |
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| 14:35.23 | mentor | His power extends from the source... |
| 14:35.25 | mentor | not hang on. |
| 14:35.29 | mentor | that's a step too far |
| 14:35.42 | Daveman | abrotman :P |
| 14:35.45 | quad3datwork2 | anyone know how to use sed to replace something with a single quote? like what would i insert into [sed -e 's/(//g'] in order to replace ( with '? thanks |
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| 14:36.08 | abrotman | what about #debian-overflow .. or is that somehting different? |
| 14:36.15 | mentor | "\'" |
| 14:36.15 | abrotman | nevermind .. i see |
| 14:36.16 | mentor | ? |
| 14:36.23 | quad3datwork2 | i tried that. didn't work |
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| 14:36.26 | Daveman | heh |
| 14:36.32 | Daveman | silly freenode |
| 14:36.37 | Daveman | umodes are for kids :P |
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| 14:36.41 | quad3datwork2 | bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)' |
| 14:37.00 | Daveman | heh |
| 14:37.14 | abrotman | s/)/\'/ doesn't work ? |
| 14:37.20 | Daveman | try [)] |
| 14:37.23 | Daveman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:37.37 | quad3datwork2 | the whole command is [sed -e 's/(/\'/g' -e 's/).*/`,/g'] stripping ( from beginning and )and rest after ) |
| 14:37.48 | quad3datwork2 | replace ( with ' and ) with ', |
| 14:37.55 | Daveman | o.O |
| 14:37.56 | mentor | "s/(/'/p" wfm |
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| 14:38.37 | mentor | quad3datwork2: '\'' doesn't work |
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| 14:41.35 | gttss | Is there a way to select a system-wide default interface font for Openoffice 2? |
| 14:41.44 | gttss | The one on which it defaults is horrible! |
| 14:41.54 | quad3datwork2 | echo (asdffdsa)aserjlkj |sed -e 's/(/\'/g' -e 's/).*/\',/g' |
| 14:41.54 | quad3datwork2 | -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `asdffdsa' |
| 14:42.00 | mentor | quad3datwork2: '\'' doesn't work |
| 14:42.07 | mentor | oh |
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| 14:42.14 | mentor | () are reserved |
| 14:42.20 | mentor | They start a subshell |
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| 14:42.28 | quad3datwork2 | hmm. |
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| 14:43.00 | tomas_ | hi |
| 14:43.05 | tomas_ | i need expert help! |
| 14:43.08 | mentor | quad3datwork2: "" them |
| 14:43.15 | tomas_ | i want to get my handycam working in linux :( |
| 14:43.18 | gAri- | what are considered speciel characters in sed? < or > or * or \ are special characters? |
| 14:43.21 | tomas_ | can anyone help me? |
| 14:43.29 | The_Ball | tomas_, firewire is easy |
| 14:43.35 | mentor | gAri-: Ummm, quite a lot of them are special |
| 14:43.40 | quad3datwork2 | "'" gave the same error |
| 14:43.44 | tomas_ | The_Ball: oki, i have tried. |
| 14:43.51 | tomas_ | The_Ball: and not got it working |
| 14:43.54 | gAri- | mentor: yea but whic :~. any list anywhere? |
| 14:43.57 | tomas_ | The_Ball: so if you could help me i would be happy |
| 14:44.01 | The_Ball | did you use the sbp2 driver? |
| 14:44.09 | tomas_ | The_Ball: =? |
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| 14:44.21 | gAri- | I need to add a line in a file after every occurence of <VirtualHost *> |
| 14:44.30 | The_Ball | lsmod, does sbp2 show up? |
| 14:44.31 | gAri- | a line wit full of slashes |
| 14:44.51 | mentor | quad3datwork2: echo "(foo) bar baz" |
| 14:45.12 | tomas_ | The_Ball: no, im running kubuntu but can it work anyway? |
| 14:45.42 | resiak | abrotman: I traded my CD burner for acid... but it was good shit |
| 14:45.47 | quad3datwork2 | heh yea, i just caught myself doing that |
| 14:45.51 | The_Ball | i would google for ubuntu firewire camera |
| 14:45.59 | abrotman | resiak: silly kid! .. trips are for rabbits |
| 14:46.03 | tomas_ | The_Ball: believe me i have :/ |
| 14:46.28 | The_Ball | which app are you trying to use it with? |
| 14:46.33 | tomas_ | The_Ball: kino |
| 14:46.37 | resiak | #kubuntu is over there ------------_> |
| 14:46.42 | tomas_ | The_Ball: i know |
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| 14:46.45 | tomas_ | oops |
| 14:46.47 | tomas_ | resiak: i know |
| 14:46.48 | priyank | abrotman: what is kp-mantra? |
| 14:46.51 | tomas_ | resiak: have been there |
| 14:46.56 | resiak | tomas_: and? |
| 14:46.57 | resiak | !kp-mantra |
| 14:47.01 | abrotman | !tell priyank about kp mantra |
| 14:47.01 | resiak | erm |
| 14:47.03 | mentor | gAri-: Read a regex tutorial. * is a repetition special modifier |
| 14:47.08 | priyank | resiak: thanks abrotman and resiak |
| 14:47.15 | tomas_ | resiak: dumb question. im here cause i have asked in kubuntu and they seems to be unable to help |
| 14:47.20 | resiak | !they don't know |
| 14:47.20 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 14:47.26 | tomas_ | resiak: yup |
| 14:47.32 | resiak | !kp-mantra is <reply> see kp mantra |
| 14:47.32 | dpkg | resiak: okay |
| 14:47.36 | tomas_ | take care people |
| 14:47.37 | mentor | grumbles at tomas_ |
| 14:47.40 | mentor | hang on |
| 14:47.48 | tomas_ | mmm |
| 14:48.08 | tijn | anyone any experience with laptops and Ati? |
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| 14:48.16 | ttick | anyone know which device to use for the mouse plugged into a PS/2 port, on Xorg? |
| 14:48.24 | tijn | does this go well? |
| 14:48.29 | The_Ball | tomas_, do: find /lib/modules -iname '*raw*' |
| 14:48.38 | tijn | ttick, test it out |
| 14:48.42 | The_Ball | i think one of those modules will do the trick |
| 14:48.42 | resiak | !devinputmice |
| 14:48.44 | resiak | erm |
| 14:48.48 | mentor | tomas_: what happens if you gscanbus? |
| 14:48.50 | resiak | ttick: Are you using 2.6? |
| 14:48.55 | tijn | cat /dev/psaux > /dev/tty(ur tty) |
| 14:48.56 | ttick | resiak: yes |
| 14:49.01 | tijn | and move the mouse |
| 14:49.01 | resiak | ttick: /dev/input/mice |
| 14:49.08 | tijn | or /dev/input/mice |
| 14:49.14 | tijn | what ^ said :D |
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| 14:49.18 | resiak | tijn: In 2.6, /dev/psaux is an alias for /d/i/m |
| 14:49.23 | tomas_ | The_Ball: found several |
| 14:49.24 | ttick | hmm. for some reason not working :/ |
| 14:49.29 | tomas_ | hmm |
| 14:49.31 | tomas_ | mentor: wait |
| 14:49.45 | tomas_ | mentor: |
| 14:49.45 | tomas_ | This probably means that you don't have raw1394 support in the kernel or that |
| 14:49.45 | tomas_ | you haven't loaded the raw1394 module. |
| 14:49.46 | gttss | Nobody knowns if there is a way to set a default interface font for Openoffice? |
| 14:49.50 | nse | is there anyone who can help me with an english letter to a university? I need to check if it's english is perfect |
| 14:49.57 | gttss | i HATE that font! and my users too. |
| 14:50.07 | mentor | tomas_: Well...have you? |
| 14:50.33 | tomas_ | mentor: lsmod | grep raw1394 proofs it i guess |
| 14:50.34 | quad3datwork2 | mentor: this is stupid |
| 14:50.37 | quad3datwork2 | echo "(evv)34ag" |sed -e 's/(/'\''/g' -e 's/).*/'\'',/g' |
| 14:50.38 | quad3datwork2 | that works |
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| 14:50.58 | quad3datwork2 | you have to separate \' from the whole edit and go back into edit mode |
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| 14:51.03 | Teklap | Hello all |
| 14:51.10 | tomas_ | hi teklap |
| 14:51.24 | tomas_ | =? |
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| 14:51.33 | Teklap | Got a quick question for you guys, I got a Fasttrak66 RAID card right.... Trying to install debian. |
| 14:51.44 | quad3datwork2 | oh well, thanks for your help. i appreciate it |
| 14:51.45 | Teklap | Debian sees two disk drives instead of one during install |
| 14:51.55 | tomas_ | mentor & The_Ball: any clues? |
| 14:52.04 | Teklap | Note.. I have the RAID Mirror setup from the BIOS |
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| 14:52.15 | Teklap | Anyone know why debian sees two drives? |
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| 14:52.24 | mentor | quad3datwork2: "s/(/'/g; s/).*/',/g" |
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| 14:52.37 | mentor | quad3datwork2: You can't escape 's inside 's |
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| 14:53.07 | gorgory | hi, i need help with djbdns on debian |
| 14:53.14 | gorgory | specifically with tinydns data, my file "data" size has become huge (20mb+) and im having problems while writing and reading it |
| 14:53.22 | xerophyte | Does anybody know any good web-base file manager |
| 14:53.24 | gorgory | what can i do to solve this problem? is there something like tinydns data < mysql ? |
| 14:53.28 | tarzeau | xerophyte: no |
| 14:53.33 | gorgory | any help would be appreciated |
| 14:53.35 | tomas_ | :'( |
| 14:53.39 | mentor | tomas_: So you do have it loaded? |
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| 14:53.48 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 14:53.48 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 14:54.30 | tombs | hi all |
| 14:54.41 | mentor | Teklap: Is that hardware RAID or software RAID? |
| 14:54.45 | tomas_ | mentor: YES |
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| 14:54.48 | wouterrr | hello |
| 14:55.21 | gorgory | i need help with djbdns on debian please help me |
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| 14:55.25 | wouterrr | i've created a debian package; so far so good. But i'm trying to get the manpage installed. I renamed manpage.1.ex to manpage.1 en dh_installman is uncommented from debian/rules |
| 14:55.28 | Gnea | mentor: looks like software |
| 14:55.41 | wouterrr | but when i execute dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot, the manpage is not installed |
| 14:55.46 | mentor | tomas_: OK...have you got an appropriate driver for your firewire interface loaded? |
| 14:56.10 | fireba11 | Teklap: as far as i know fasttrack is "fakeraid" .. just a bios, no hardware support for the raid .. just use a software raid and set no raid in the controller to keep it from messing up |
| 14:56.34 | Prudhvi | looks like that i have good freetime, and would like to contribute to debian Community. are there any Projects that needed to be worked on or some thing? |
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| 14:57.04 | mentor | Teklap: Linux has a software implementation of RAID which is reasonable |
| 14:57.27 | Dewi | ntp-simple... er.... doesn't work :P |
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| 14:57.27 | Dewi | it always did before |
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| 14:57.28 | Dewi | but on this machine it just seems to do nothing |
| 14:57.31 | wouterrr | and renamed manpage.1 to qmailmrtg7.1 |
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| 14:57.57 | Dewi | there are various ntp codes reported in daemon.log, but I can't find anything to explain what they mean |
| 14:57.58 | tomas_ | mentor: thank you for your help but i wont take it up anymore |
| 14:58.00 | abrotman | Prudhvi: there are tons of things you can do |
| 14:58.04 | tomas_ | mentor: i will try to fix it myself |
| 14:58.09 | tomas_ | mentor: tkae care, bye |
| 14:58.13 | mentor | tomas_: Sorry. Don't know much about firewire |
| 14:58.16 | Dewi | my clock has been off by 30 minutes or more for a day now... is that too much for ntp to work? |
| 14:58.26 | tomas_ | bye all |
| 14:58.35 | fireba11 | Dewi: yes .. do ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
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| 14:58.48 | sin | if i want to set multiple routes for boot time, can i to that in /etc/network/interfaces or is it a different file? |
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| 14:59.19 | Teklap | mentor/fireball: How is it that debian sees 2 drives in the setup? |
| 14:59.19 | Dewi | fireba11: what does ntpdate do? just set once and exit? |
| 14:59.26 | fireba11 | Dewi: yes |
| 14:59.32 | Teklap | And I have it set from the bios as a mirrored array |
| 14:59.38 | Prudhvi | abrotman: yes, i am waiting for them. where can i help ? |
| 14:59.44 | fireba11 | Dewi: so ntp can pick up |
| 14:59.45 | Dewi | fireba11: that'll be a trip back in time... I hope that doesn't confuse my system too badly |
| 14:59.53 | mentor | Teklap: Because the RAID functionality of the card is implemented as a BIOS extension or in the Windows Driver. |
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| 15:00.00 | mentor | Teklap: BIOS extension |
| 15:00.01 | abrotman | Prudhvi: what skills do you have? |
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| 15:00.17 | Prudhvi | abrotman: i better PM you |
| 15:00.22 | mentor | Teklap: Needless to say, Linux does not and most probably shouldn't use this. |
| 15:00.25 | fireba11 | Dewi: usually only logfiles get confusing :-) ntp sets in small steps but stops completely if the idfference it too great |
| 15:00.25 | abrotman | Prudhvi: nah .. keep it in here |
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| 15:00.39 | mentor | Teklap: But we do have our own software RAID subsystem |
| 15:00.50 | abrotman | Prudhvi: i mean .. are oyu a developer? or what? |
| 15:01.07 | Prudhvi | abrotman: C/C++,Python,PHP,MySQL,Server Administration |
| 15:01.08 | Teklap | So question |
| 15:01.08 | fireba11 | !tell teklap about fakeraid |
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| 15:01.13 | newone | hello |
| 15:01.13 | mentor | good plan |
| 15:01.22 | newone | can i ask how to see my unmount partitions |
| 15:01.23 | abrotman | Prudhvi: you can always browse the BTS and fix bugs |
| 15:01.25 | Teklap | You're saying I can't use this card? |
| 15:01.27 | newone | to can mount and them |
| 15:01.33 | Teklap | Because I did the setup on one of the two drives setup |
| 15:01.37 | Teklap | found in setup* |
| 15:01.39 | sep | newone, cat /proc/partitions |
| 15:01.44 | Teklap | and it doesn' tboot after install |
| 15:01.53 | sep | newone, will list all known both mounted and otherways |
| 15:02.01 | newone | thanks sep |
| 15:02.05 | newone | c ya |
| 15:02.06 | fireba11 | Teklap: you can use the card as a regular controll .. that's about all it is anyway |
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| 15:02.12 | fireba11 | controller even |
| 15:02.49 | Teklap | I don' think you guys are understanding me |
| 15:02.59 | Teklap | The setup finds two drives.. I setup the install on the first of the two |
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| 15:03.05 | Teklap | It doesn't boot after install |
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| 15:03.21 | fireba11 | Teklap: ah ... |
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| 15:03.39 | Prudhvi | abrotman: anything other that Big Fixing ? |
| 15:03.41 | ronove | I had KDE installed, but when I tried to apt-get install amarok, it complained about a missing packet (libqt3c102-mt) but that seems to conflict with libqt3-mt, which is provided by kdelibs.. any workaround? |
| 15:03.50 | fireba11 | Teklap: i guess your controller messed up trying to sync drives on boot .. that is no good idea since it's not supported by debian |
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| 15:04.10 | Teklap | Ok last question |
| 15:04.11 | fireba11 | Teklap: just remove the raid in the car's bios and try again, then it should work |
| 15:04.17 | Teklap | Should debian be seeing two drivers? |
| 15:04.20 | Teklap | drives* |
| 15:04.31 | icy | exit |
| 15:04.40 | Teklap | heh |
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| 15:04.51 | wouterrr | anyone experienced with package building? |
| 15:05.02 | fhffhqvb | wouterrr: UPS? |
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| 15:05.12 | icy | hy |
| 15:05.16 | wouterrr | no, debian |
| 15:05.26 | fhffhqvb | !tell wouterrr about polls |
| 15:05.27 | fireba11 | Teklap: with a true raid card it would see only one drive if you set up mirroring .. sicne it doesn't you got 95% that it's no real raid card anyway |
| 15:05.45 | icy | where can i get an apache 2.2? |
| 15:05.53 | wouterrr | dh_installmake won't install debian/qmailmrtg7.1 |
| 15:05.57 | Teklap | So..? |
| 15:06.00 | Teklap | :| |
| 15:06.07 | Teklap | This card won't work |
| 15:06.10 | Teklap | Is that what you're saying? |
| 15:06.12 | wouterrr | and dh_installman is included within debian/rules |
| 15:06.31 | fireba11 | Teklap: so the card will only work as a regular IDE controller .. even with windows, becaus there the driver does the software-raid |
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| 15:07.12 | icy | where can i get an apache 2.2? |
| 15:07.14 | Teklap | ok so break the array and just use it as a controller is what you're saying |
| 15:07.15 | Teklap | ok |
| 15:07.18 | priyank | to compile a kernel, i have to do it using kp-mantra thingy? |
| 15:07.32 | fireba11 | Teklap: exactly |
| 15:07.47 | valdyn | !dmraid |
| 15:07.51 | cahoot | priyank: preferably |
| 15:07.51 | fireba11 | Teklap: you can set up software raid in debian installer quite fine |
| 15:08.14 | priyank | cahoot: so i just configure the kernel, and run that command in the kernel source directory ? |
| 15:08.20 | Teklap | In the installer? |
| 15:08.24 | Teklap | I didn't see the option |
| 15:08.31 | fireba11 | Teklap: yes .. when partitioning |
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| 15:09.18 | fireba11 | Teklap: it's not 100% intuitive though .. you make your partitions twice, once on each HD, set those to raid volumes and then create software raid over each pair of partitions |
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| 15:09.28 | icy | where can i get an apache 2.2? |
| 15:09.28 | pm_ | how can i recreate the default rules of iptables? i've deleted them. |
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| 15:09.32 | cahoot | priyank: that's how I do |
| 15:09.36 | abrotman | Prudhvi: i'm not sure what else you can do without being a DD |
| 15:09.44 | valdyn | pm_: default = no rules at all |
| 15:09.50 | abrotman | Prudhvi: you can test packages .. submit bugs |
| 15:09.54 | phyrster | when I boot with 2.6.15 kernel, I got a flood of messages saying that udevd can't 'exec' files in /lib/udev |
| 15:09.59 | phyrster | what is wrong? |
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| 15:10.07 | Daveman | abrotman, is it still naptime? |
| 15:10.08 | phyrster | the system boots alright though. |
| 15:10.33 | pm_ | valdyn see, in my local network, the gateway can ping the clients machines, but the clients can't ping the gateway, what can cause this? |
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| 15:10.58 | valdyn | pm_: your firewall |
| 15:11.01 | fireba11 | pm_ routing issue or a firewall rule |
| 15:11.03 | Teklap | Hah.. I reinserted the card and it's not booting the previous install I did :D |
| 15:11.13 | phyrster | it never happened before, it seems that udevd and /lib/udev just come from nowhere. A new feature? |
| 15:11.14 | lorenz | hey there |
| 15:11.23 | pm_ | valdyn i dont have firewall |
| 15:11.23 | icy | where can i get an apache 2.2? |
| 15:11.35 | pm_ | fireba11 what you mean with routing issue?^ |
| 15:11.59 | BoltActnAssault_ | google: apache |
| 15:12.01 | priyank | cahoot: after that is done, it'll create a .deb? |
| 15:12.12 | valdyn | pm_: you deleting your firewalls rules does not make the firewall go away |
| 15:12.22 | fireba11 | pm_ maybe you found a way your clients won't reach your gateway :-D |
| 15:12.29 | cahoot | priyank: it really tells you all it does |
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| 15:12.49 | jduck | hello |
| 15:12.55 | lorenz | can u tell me why when i do apt-get upgrade i only download firefox 1.0.7 and not 1.5 and later versions? |
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| 15:13.00 | jduck | can anyone tell me how to find out what configure line was used to build a debian package? |
| 15:13.05 | pm_ | valdyn i've installed shorewall, but them i've removed it, after that this problems started to happen |
| 15:13.10 | cahoot | priyank: including the name and path to the deb |
| 15:13.23 | pm_ | valdyn how can i remove all the files from a app? |
| 15:13.34 | fireba11 | pm_ apt-get remove --purge |
| 15:13.39 | danieldg | pm_: try flushing your firewall rules |
| 15:13.41 | valdyn | pm_: shorewall is a firewall SETUP TOOL, not a firewall |
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| 15:13.57 | dr1v3r | !postgresql |
| 15:13.57 | dpkg | A robust, mature and full-featured relational database implementing a large subset of SQL. No replication; supports views, stored procedures, triggers and several embedded languages (including PL and Perl). Has some interesting OO extensions. Packaged in Debian as 'postgresql'. Also see http://postgresql.org. |
| 15:13.57 | pm_ | danieldg iptables -F? |
| 15:14.12 | xoz | pm_: check if /etc/init.d/ contains firewall setup |
| 15:14.18 | danieldg | pm_: yes, that should work |
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| 15:14.36 | valdyn | pm_: and check the policy of your chains.. |
| 15:14.37 | abrotman | Daveman: i wish |
| 15:14.45 | jduck | anyone familiar with building packages? |
| 15:14.45 | pm_ | valdyn there is no firewall there |
| 15:15.00 | abrotman | jduck: such as ? |
| 15:15.02 | wouterrr | dh_installman |
| 15:15.02 | wouterrr | dh_link |
| 15:15.08 | wouterrr | it justs skips the dh_installman directive |
| 15:15.09 | wouterrr | why is that? |
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| 15:15.15 | valdyn | pm_: why do you think there isnt? |
| 15:15.29 | valdyn | pm_: iptables is a tool to control your firewall ) |
| 15:15.35 | xoz | pm_: grep -iR iptables /etc/init.d/ |
| 15:15.44 | pm_ | valdyn but i've no rules in iptables |
| 15:15.45 | azeem | wouterrr: do you have a debian/foo.manpages? |
| 15:15.50 | jduck | well im trying to build 0.88 clamav to run on a system with 0.84 on it |
| 15:15.54 | valdyn | pm_: and the policy is what? DROP ? |
| 15:16.03 | jduck | so i need to build with the correct configure options to use the system layout |
| 15:16.03 | wouterrr | ls debian/qmailmrtg7.1 |
| 15:16.03 | wouterrr | debian/qmailmrtg7.1 |
| 15:16.11 | azeem | wouterrr: that's a manpage |
| 15:16.18 | dr1v3r | anyone know what the command is for postgresql to add a database? while using ssh |
| 15:16.22 | wouterrr | i know. wrote it myself |
| 15:16.26 | azeem | wouterrr: you need a control file for dh_installman to tell it which manpages to install |
| 15:16.26 | pm_ | valdyn policy from iptables? where can i see this? |
| 15:16.32 | wouterrr | aaaaaaah |
| 15:16.34 | valdyn | pm_: iptables --list |
| 15:16.38 | wouterrr | hum couldn't find that in the docs azeem |
| 15:16.44 | jduck | think i found it.. debian/rules ? |
| 15:16.53 | abrotman | dr1v3r: you need to read the postgres docs .. su; su - postgres; createuser <user>;become user; createdb <dbname> |
| 15:17.05 | azeem | "Any man page filenames specified as parameters will be installed into the first package dh_installman is told to act on." |
| 15:17.07 | pm_ | valdyn there is nothing there |
| 15:17.10 | azeem | "Files named debian/package.manpages can list other man pages to be installed." |
| 15:17.11 | abrotman | jduck: http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/c/ |
| 15:17.20 | wouterrr | thanks azeem |
| 15:17.25 | wouterrr | it's time to eat ;) ) |
| 15:17.25 | wouterrr | missed that |
| 15:17.31 | danieldg | pm_: by nothing, you mean no output? |
| 15:17.31 | valdyn | pm_: i cant imagine that.. |
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| 15:18.03 | valdyn | pm_: it should either list your chains or give an error for calling a non-existant system call |
| 15:18.26 | wouterrr | qmailmrtg7.1: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/dh_installman line 116. |
| 15:18.30 | wouterrr | thanks, i know how to fix this! : ) |
| 15:18.47 | abrotman | err .. qmail! |
| 15:18.52 | abrotman | errr .. eww qmail! |
| 15:19.00 | wouterrr | ... |
| 15:19.04 | jduck | nice abrotman |
| 15:19.16 | abrotman | jduck: that beats compiling your own i guess |
| 15:19.24 | jduck | yeah but i dont want to install it system wide |
| 15:19.31 | jduck | i'll bookmark backports.org tho |
| 15:19.34 | dr1v3r | thanks abrotman |
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| 15:19.40 | abrotman | dr1v3r: did it work ? |
| 15:19.46 | lorenz | when i use the apt-get upgrade command i'm not able to download the latest version of firefox i only get the 1.0.7! Can someone help me? |
| 15:19.49 | wouterrr | this is a package that is gpl licensed to get values from logfiles created by qmail, spamassassin, clamav, etc... to give mrtg values |
| 15:19.55 | abrotman | jduck: but you're makign a package ? |
| 15:20.11 | jduck | well |
| 15:20.18 | jduck | i just want to compile the thing with extra symbols :) |
| 15:20.21 | phyrster | how to disable a kernel from loading when booting? |
| 15:20.29 | valdyn | phyrster: eh? |
| 15:20.35 | phyrster | sorry. a module |
| 15:20.38 | jduck | phyrster: power button |
| 15:20.38 | danieldg | lorenz: what version of debian are you running? |
| 15:20.43 | valdyn | !blacklist |
| 15:20.43 | dpkg | hmm... blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 15:20.45 | phyrster | jduck: :) |
| 15:20.58 | lorenz | 3.1 r0a |
| 15:21.05 | phyrster | valdyn: I already tried that. but for 'pcspkr'. it didn't work. |
| 15:21.23 | valdyn | phyrster: is that module in /etc/modules ? |
| 15:21.34 | abrotman | jduck: uhm .. ok |
| 15:21.39 | phyrster | blacklist pcspkr |
| 15:22.04 | phyrster | valdyn: no |
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| 15:22.16 | valdyn | phyrster: then you did something wrong when blacklisting |
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| 15:22.24 | Webmonkey | hi guys |
| 15:22.32 | phyrster | valdyn: I just added blacklist pcspkr |
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| 15:22.36 | lorenz | danieldg: 3.1r0a |
| 15:22.40 | dr1v3r | just trying it now. been looking at some docs onthe site |
| 15:22.42 | Webmonkey | How do I install a java plugin into Mozilla? |
| 15:22.47 | valdyn | phyrster: that's not what dpkg said |
| 15:22.52 | abrotman | !tell Webmonkey about install java |
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| 15:23.18 | phyrster | valdyn: in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 15:23.26 | Webmonkey | abrotman: thanks |
| 15:23.41 | phyrster | valdyn: I am using sid and I just added the module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 15:23.51 | phyrster | valdyn: what did I miss? |
| 15:23.54 | danieldg | lorenz: I think you have to get newer versions of firefox from testing |
| 15:23.58 | stew | phyrster: what version of udev do you have? there is/was a bug with udev that made blacklisting pcspkr impossiblde |
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| 15:24.18 | phyrster | stew: don't know latest sid |
| 15:24.58 | phyrster | stew: seems kernel 2.6.15 depends on udev |
| 15:25.18 | dr1v3r | abrotman i think it worked, but i cant fin dthe database to find out :( |
| 15:25.19 | stew | phyrster: the bug might still be there, i never saw anything in the bts, but saw the maintainer discussing it elsewhere |
| 15:25.19 | dr1v3r | lol |
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| 15:25.30 | stew | phyrster: 2.6.15 doens't depend on udev |
| 15:25.43 | phyrster | I am thinking of a work around. How can I add 'rmmod pcspkr' in a booting script? |
| 15:25.51 | stew | phyrster: initramfs-tools does. if you don't want to use udev use yaird instead |
| 15:25.57 | lorenz | danieldg: 1.5 is in testing? |
| 15:26.04 | abrotman | dr1v3r: /var/lib/postgresql/ |
| 15:26.29 | dr1v3r | yea thats what i thought but it i snot there :( so guess it didnt work |
| 15:26.35 | stew | phyrster: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name pcspkr.ko | xargs rename 's/ko/ko.HIDE/' ; depmod -a |
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| 15:27.15 | phyrster | stew: yaird? |
| 15:27.19 | stew | yes |
| 15:27.52 | danieldg | lorenz: I thought it was, but apparently it's only in unstable |
| 15:27.58 | stew | phyrster: yaird however has it's own bugs, like for some ide chipsets it's currently impossible to enable dma using yaird without manually working around the problem |
| 15:28.14 | dr1v3r | hmmm it says the database is already created, but i cant see anything that looks like the database i created |
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| 15:28.39 | phyrster | stew: I don't know what udev is doing on my system. Can I just purge it? |
| 15:28.39 | lorenz | danieldg: ok thank u very much |
| 15:28.53 | stew | phyrster: yes, if you install yaird |
| 15:29.06 | phyrster | stew: by the way, udevd gives a flood of error messages saying that it can't run scripts in /lib/udev |
| 15:29.33 | stew | phyrster: did you check the bts? can you show us the actual error messages? |
| 15:29.34 | phyrster | stew: ok. but Must either yaird or udev be installed? |
| 15:29.47 | phyrster | stew: bts means? |
| 15:29.49 | moshii | I have a really weird problem, if bold Japanese text renders diagonally up the screen :/ |
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| 15:29.53 | ronin | !bts |
| 15:29.53 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 15:29.54 | stew | phyrster: if you want to use a debian compiled 2.6.15 kernel then ye |
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| 15:31.05 | phyrster | stew: dmesg didn't show the error. where can I get the error log? or is it logged ? |
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| 15:31.27 | phyrster | stew: the errors come even before init starts |
| 15:31.40 | ashish | hi all |
| 15:31.44 | stew | phyrster: /msg dpkg bootlog |
| 15:31.48 | phyrster | moshii: so is chinese |
| 15:31.58 | phyrster | moshii: you are using kde right? |
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| 15:32.04 | moshii | phyrster: yeah |
| 15:32.05 | phyrster | stew: ok. |
| 15:32.26 | moshii | phyrster: my other machine is fine though and it's almost exactly the same |
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| 15:32.35 | ashish | is any body have any idea X is not running? |
| 15:32.50 | moshii | ashish: dig around in /var/log |
| 15:32.56 | phyrster | moshii: I assume it has to do with the libxft in sid |
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| 15:33.11 | moshii | phyrster: hmm I'm running unstable |
| 15:33.14 | ashish | how i will try moshii |
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| 15:33.56 | phyrster | moshii: unstable is sid |
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| 15:34.16 | moshii | phyrster: thought you said sarge for a moment then, sorry |
| 15:34.23 | phyrster | moshii: in kde, you can just choose another font for the 'fly-up' font |
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| 15:34.53 | ashish | i can't understood what is the output after useing dig /var/log |
| 15:35.03 | moshii | phyrster: how do you do that? it's weird that my other unstable machine doesn't do it |
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| 15:35.09 | phyrster | moshii: I am having the same problem, it is only related to the bold font. So you can just use another non bold font |
| 15:35.35 | phyrster | moshii: in KDE's control center change the font. |
| 15:35.39 | moshii | ashish: you need to look at /var/log/XFree86.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 15:35.56 | phyrster | moshii: in your other unstable machine, you might keeps the old libxft version. |
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| 15:36.19 | gypsymauro | hello |
| 15:36.28 | phyrster | moshii: libxft in sid activates the bold fonts but has bugs I think |
| 15:36.44 | gypsymauro | how I can have an user without password and shell in debian? it's enough to change the /etc/passwd or I've to edit shadovs too? |
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| 15:37.12 | moshii | phyrster: actually, my other box seems to be running a new one |
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| 15:37.27 | moshii | phyrster: I'll just find out where it's coming from, might solve both our problems |
| 15:37.50 | phyrster | moshii: did you hack /etc/fonts.conf? |
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| 15:38.10 | jazzanova_ | hi |
| 15:38.21 | jazzanova_ | how can I monitor which files nfs clients access ? |
| 15:38.30 | ma3x | where can I get 1GB free ftp storage? |
| 15:38.41 | moshii | phyrster: yeah, I have it hacked up so that vera sans is used or the microsoft gothic fonts for Japanese |
| 15:38.48 | ma3x | too bad I can't run http/ftp server because I don't have any ports open, and can't forward not even a single one |
| 15:39.13 | ma3x | answer me! |
| 15:39.22 | phyrster | moshii: all CJK people are doing this excruciating job. |
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| 15:39.29 | abrams | did anyone know how I could to enforce that a ttyUSB device is reused insteat of recreate it with udev |
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| 15:39.40 | phyrster | moshii: I really hope that Asian fonts are better supported one day |
| 15:39.42 | angler | how do I disable frame buffer when not using x-windows? |
| 15:40.10 | abrotman | ma3x: try google |
| 15:40.14 | moshii | phyrster: 2.1.8.2-2 of libxft seems good, I'm going to try to find the package on the working machine and downgrade :) |
| 15:40.17 | phyrster | moshii: anyway, I think it is related to libxft (bold enabled version). |
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| 15:40.58 | Webmonkey | do any of you guys grow your own? when is the best time to plant |
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| 15:41.58 | abrotman | Webmonkey: wrong channel |
| 15:42.06 | Webmonkey | soz |
| 15:42.13 | ma3x | abrotman, I tried, I found nothing! |
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| 15:42.24 | Webmonkey | im growing my own tomatoes |
| 15:42.26 | abrotman | ma3x: you didn't try very hard |
| 15:42.30 | abrotman | Webmonkey: wrong channel |
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| 15:42.42 | buzzy | how can i write a floppy that i'll need under win? |
| 15:42.45 | fireba11 | ma3x: you got ssh ? you could tunnel via it :-D |
| 15:42.46 | ma3x | abrotman, very very hard, was googling for half an hour. please help me! |
| 15:42.49 | Webmonkey | Webmonkey = amorphix |
| 15:43.02 | abrotman | still not a channel for hydroponics |
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| 15:43.09 | Webmonkey | heh |
| 15:43.14 | ma3x | fireba11, ssh? on my pc yes but it's with 0 open ports |
| 15:43.29 | ma3x | fireba11, can I msg you private? |
| 15:43.30 | fireba11 | ma3x: 0 open ports = no internet |
| 15:43.38 | fireba11 | ma3x: go ahead |
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| 15:44.05 | phyrster | stew: when I try to purge udev, initramfs-tools will purged too |
| 15:44.16 | Webmonkey | abrotman you gave me my first laff all week! |
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| 15:44.27 | abrotman | Webmonkey: don't you have a mirror? |
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| 15:44.29 | stew | phyrster: right, which is why you need to install yaird if you want to use the debian compiled 2.6.15 |
| 15:44.33 | phyrster | stew: but you said initramfs-tools is need by the kernel? |
| 15:44.39 | Webmonkey | abrotman: I'm too ill to get up |
| 15:44.51 | Lord_Athur | hi all |
| 15:45.09 | phyrster | stew: yaird installed. it is now safe to remove initramfs-tools? |
| 15:45.15 | stew | !depends linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 15:45.20 | stew | phyrster: yes |
| 15:45.22 | phyrster | stew: what is that yaird bug you mentioned just now? |
| 15:45.25 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6.15-1-686: depends on module-init-tools (>= 0.9.13), initramfs-tools | yaird | linux-initramfs-tool |
| 15:45.37 | Webmonkey | abrotman: you're too sharp today |
| 15:45.45 | abrotman | Webmonkey: i blame the beer |
| 15:45.47 | stew | phyrster: go to the bts page for yaird and search for DMA |
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| 15:45.50 | Webmonkey | :P |
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| 15:46.04 | ronin | abrotman: never ever blame the holy brew |
| 15:46.15 | stew | phyrster: however, since you already have a working initrd, it shouldnt' affect you |
| 15:46.28 | abrotman | ronin: isn't that how you got kid #1? :) |
| 15:46.28 | kspath | !hydroponic_smite Webmonkey |
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| 15:46.47 | ronin | abrotman: no kids, so far ive dodged that one |
| 15:46.51 | abrotman | kspath: did you get that url ? |
| 15:46.53 | phyrster | stew: I see. |
| 15:46.58 | fluxdude | I'm trying to figure out how Exim and imapd are storing emails on my mail server, I can see the Sent file, Trash file under /home/user/IMAP etc.. but i can't find an Inbox file or equivalent, can anyone help? |
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| 15:47.40 | petemc | fluxdude: exim -d -bt some@localuser |
| 15:47.45 | Webmonkey | does penicillin kill vitamins? |
| 15:48.01 | tijn | depends on how har dyou throw them |
| 15:48.13 | sanmarcos | what does pci=usepirqmask do? |
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| 15:49.12 | hmchen | hello, it is possible that boot debian using old redhat 9 kernel image ? |
| 15:49.15 | abrotman | Webmonkey: stop asking retarded questions |
| 15:49.36 | sanmarcos | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.37 | abrotman | hmchen: ideally .. yes .. in practice .. it should work .. may not though |
| 15:50.17 | fluxdude | petemc: it's ok, found in under /var/spool/mail symlinked back to /home/varspoolmail/ |
| 15:50.26 | xoz | hmchen: try and see |
| 15:50.37 | hmchen | I got a raid card driver problem. hope this idea can work |
| 15:51.03 | fireba11 | hmchen: what "raid card driver problem" ? |
| 15:51.03 | hmchen | do anyone have a promise s150 sx4 sata card ? |
| 15:51.11 | xoz | hmchen: you have to copy the image as well as the modules in /lib/modules/<kernel> |
| 15:51.18 | sanmarcos | chmoding 770 will give write execute read access to the user, group, but not others right? |
| 15:51.33 | xoz | try |
| 15:51.44 | Webmonkey | sheesh since when did Sun become all legally |
| 15:51.52 | moshii | Has anyone solved this CJK fonts climbing up the screen thing? |
| 15:51.59 | Webmonkey | all this agreement just to install a java plugin |
| 15:52.04 | fireba11 | hmchen: promise sx4 is no realraid .. it got accelerator functions though .. no debian driver for it yet .. and they wouldn't make THAT much of a difference |
| 15:52.23 | Webmonkey | anyone would think I was buying a house |
| 15:52.57 | abrotman | sanmarcos: yes |
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| 15:53.34 | hmchen | I have bought this card more than one year |
| 15:53.47 | SerajewelKS | i wonder if OOo 3 will be in Gtk# |
| 15:53.56 | Zvpun | How can I reduce the volumne for one application without changing the volume for other apps? I think I use ALSA. |
| 15:54.06 | sanmarcos | Zvpun: the app should have its own |
| 15:54.25 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: ask them ? |
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| 15:54.41 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: just thinking out loud |
| 15:54.50 | jazzanova_ | how can i log file access ? |
| 15:54.52 | sanmarcos | Gtk# is C#, OO iis Java AFAIK, so think SWT |
| 15:55.00 | Teolupus | I've reinstalled apache + php4 on my Debian sarge server, but now when I access some page it downloads the php file instead of showing the page content |
| 15:55.03 | sanmarcos | jazzanova_: ls -l tells you who accesed it last |
| 15:55.08 | Teolupus | anyone have a clue? |
| 15:55.11 | SerajewelKS | sanmarcos: it's SWT right now iirc |
| 15:55.13 | abrotman | Teolupus: clear your browser cache |
| 15:55.21 | jazzanova_ | sanmacros: i want to know which files an nfs client accesses. |
| 15:55.26 | SerajewelKS | sanmarcos: just thinking that mono/.net would be easier to distribute |
| 15:55.40 | abrotman | until mono is declared illegal |
| 15:55.45 | Zvpun | sanmarcos: gaim plays this sound whenether a message is send. Unfortunately it is a very loud sound and I cant fine a volume control in gaim. |
| 15:55.54 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: how could it be declared illegal |
| 15:55.58 | sanmarcos | when I init my mahcine I get a warning that /etc/network/options is deprecated, should I just delete it? |
| 15:56.03 | Teolupus | abrotman> C'mon.... I can't belive that was so simple :P |
| 15:56.06 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i have no idea .. but it just might happen |
| 15:56.10 | abrotman | Teolupus: did it work ? |
| 15:56.13 | sanmarcos | Zvpun: #gaim anyways, just put your system volume down |
| 15:56.13 | Teolupus | yep |
| 15:56.17 | Coweater | Zvpun: disable the sounds, change sounds, or wait until gaim 2.0 |
| 15:56.19 | Teolupus | :) |
| 15:56.29 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: microsoft submitted the C# specification and the CLR specification to the IEEE for standardization |
| 15:56.31 | Teolupus | I've been looking those config files for hours!!!! |
| 15:56.35 | Teolupus | thank you! |
| 15:56.39 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: last i heard anyway |
| 15:56.42 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i just said .. i don't know how .. but it will happen :) |
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| 15:56.49 | ma3x | how do I pack one file of 1000 MB into .rar or .zip and split it at every 100 MB? |
| 15:57.02 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: bah, i doubt it... |
| 15:57.07 | abrotman | ma3x: split |
| 15:57.08 | jazzanova_ | max3x: use split command |
| 15:57.19 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: if microsoft wanted to keep it to themselves they wouldn't have submitted it to the IEEE |
| 15:57.20 | ma3x | abrotman, with zip or rar? |
| 15:57.33 | jazzanova_ | split it after you zip it. |
| 15:57.38 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: or they're just making a good faith gesture .. |
| 15:57.46 | moshii | ma3x: or uses rars volume size option ... |
| 15:57.53 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: which would be ruined the second they sued mono |
| 15:57.57 | Webmonkey | wooohooo i got java plugin working |
| 15:57.59 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: and still if MS has something patented .. they could sue mono |
| 15:58.03 | Webmonkey | abrotman: thanks for help |
| 15:58.27 | moshii | ma3x: which according to rar --help is v |
| 15:58.30 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: if they standardize it they give up the patent afaik.. doesn't IEEE make sure of that? |
| 15:58.30 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i agree .. not likely .. could happen |
| 15:58.38 | Webmonkey | I can now trade the forex markets from Linux |
| 15:58.55 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: what does the IEEE regulate .. certainly not the implementation of the spec .. |
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| 16:00.15 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: well if mono stole microsoft code then a lawsuit would be justified |
| 16:00.22 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: and i can't find jack on it at ieee.org |
| 16:00.33 | ma3x | jazzanova_, how do you split it after you zip it? with zip or rar? |
| 16:00.34 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: if it's a clean implementation of it, then microsoft has no grounds |
| 16:00.39 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: it might not be the IEEE |
| 16:00.49 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i thought it was as well |
| 16:01.31 | k31th | Guys on deb sarge where do the dns files go for bind ? for example i put the entry into named.conf in /etc/bind/named.conf on some other distros its /var/named/chroot/var/named/blah.com etc |
| 16:02.07 | abrotman | k31th: whereever you'd like .. i've seen them in /etc/ /var/ and /home/ |
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| 16:02.18 | stew | SerajewelKS: there are plenty of non-free things covered by IEEE specs, like gif /mp3 / quicktime / java |
| 16:02.48 | k31th | abrotman: do i have to tell bind where im sticking the file ? |
| 16:03.06 | Webmonkey | what is EST to GMT? -8hrs? |
| 16:03.07 | abrotman | yes |
| 16:03.12 | Webmonkey | thanks |
| 16:03.14 | abrotman | !smack Webmonkey |
| 16:03.19 | abrotman | Webmonkey: no |
| 16:03.20 | SerajewelKS | Webmonkey: -5 actually |
| 16:03.20 | k31th | yeah kool looking at the conf now |
| 16:03.22 | abrotman | k31th: ytes |
| 16:03.23 | Webmonkey | oops |
| 16:03.29 | k31th | debian does not chroot it then |
| 16:03.33 | prizna | !smack me |
| 16:03.37 | cisse | not by default k31th |
| 16:03.37 | prizna | thnx |
| 16:03.40 | abrotman | Webmonkey: did your mom block google? |
| 16:03.56 | k31th | I should chroot it ? |
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| 16:04.26 | k31th | bind security has improved as of late ?? along with sendmail ? |
| 16:04.35 | Teolupus | why the "apache" package installs apache + apche-ssl + apache-perl instead of apache + mod_ssl + mod_perl ??? |
| 16:05.17 | kspath | k31th: chroot/jail everything because |
| 16:05.19 | disposable | does anyone have mozilla-mplayer | mplayerplug-in compiled into .deb for sarge? my compilation always fails :( |
| 16:05.20 | ma3x | zipsplit error: Entry too big to split, read, or write (video.avi) |
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| 16:07.01 | k31th | kspath: good call.. |
| 16:07.17 | ma3x | can you tell me the command to rar file.avi and split it in 100 MB archives? |
| 16:07.19 | ma3x | PLEASE! |
| 16:07.27 | moshii | ma3x: rar it with the volume size option |
| 16:07.28 | ma3x | I'm bothering with this shit 1 hour |
| 16:07.34 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, stew: re microsoft and mono, http://addressof.com/blog/archive/2005/01/18/1185.aspx |
| 16:07.35 | ma3x | moshii please give me the command |
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| 16:08.08 | ma3x | helloooooooooo |
| 16:08.27 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i didn't need that opinion .. i could have formed that on my own :) |
| 16:08.36 | stew | ma3x: man split |
| 16:08.37 | azeem | ma3x: please calm down |
| 16:08.44 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: and it's also a no duh |
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| 16:08.58 | abrotman | isn't there a man page for rar? |
| 16:09.13 | moshii | ma3x: I think it's "rar a -v<size in k>k archivename files" |
| 16:09.19 | kspath | can someone stuff asp and aspx up the <blank> |
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| 16:09.25 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: yeah i know, just kind of an FYI thing |
| 16:09.34 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: it's an interesting read |
| 16:09.36 | ma3x | stew, is that compatible with the windows? |
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| 16:09.41 | liavas | passwords in /etc/shadow are plain DES encryption right? |
| 16:09.47 | Bklyn | is http.us.d.o just ridiculously slow today? |
| 16:10.05 | azeem | Bklyn: it's round-robin |
| 16:10.08 | Bklyn | hrm |
| 16:10.17 | azeem | you might have picked a slow one |
| 16:10.20 | stew | ma3x: it just takes a file and splits it into multiple peices, on the other end you just concatenate the pieces back together in order to reassemble the original file |
| 16:10.24 | Bklyn | azeem: 5 times? |
| 16:10.27 | fmasi | hi where can i find a list of repositoris for my /etc/apt/source.list i like to keap the testing brunch i gess can some one help me |
| 16:10.33 | azeem | dunno |
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| 16:10.56 | SerajewelKS | fmasi: debian.org |
| 16:11.07 | ma3x | stew, in what format does it split? |
| 16:11.22 | SerajewelKS | ma3x: no format |
| 16:11.31 | fmasi | SerajewelKS where in debian.org |
| 16:11.45 | SerajewelKS | ma3x: it slices up the file and dumps it into different files. if you put the files back together with 'cat' it will be the original file |
| 16:11.45 | stew | ma3x: it really just splits, it doesn't pay any attention at all to what it is splitting |
| 16:11.48 | moshii | just use a multi-volume rar, he doesn't need multiple tools to confuse him |
| 16:11.52 | kspath | I saw a paper advertisement for a linux product and a hyperlink. I go to the site and of course the "special" people are running a site with .asp crap. I immediately ripped up the ad for the "linux" product and tossed it. Too badly they did not know how to run linux with apache. |
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| 16:12.29 | kspath | s/badly/bad/ |
| 16:12.35 | SerajewelKS | fmasi: debian.org/mirror |
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| 16:12.49 | fmasi | SerajewelKS thx body |
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| 16:13.11 | SerajewelKS | moshii: except that rar is non-free ;) |
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| 16:13.37 | moshii | SerajewelKS: But he said he wants to compress it as a rar or zip and split it |
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| 16:13.55 | moshii | SerajewelKS: why use rar and split when rar can do it all, seems like a the long way around |
| 16:14.07 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i had the same thought years ago .. it doesn't mean MS won't sue the crap out of mono |
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| 16:14.38 | ma3x | is it normal that 'rar' is archiving so slow (not even 1 MB/second) ? |
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| 16:15.32 | k31th | Cool chrooting is easy |
| 16:15.43 | k31th | i expected it to be alot more agg |
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| 16:16.02 | monitor | miro |
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| 16:16.10 | abrotman | !br |
| 16:16.10 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 16:17.22 | moshii | ma3x: I think the speed would depend on what you're trying to compress |
| 16:17.44 | SerajewelKS | moshii: bzip |
| 16:17.46 | ries | Hey Guys I got a small question, in top the system says this: Mem: 1027672k total, 527468k used, 500204k free, 3744k buffers |
| 16:17.57 | ries | Yet, my swap says this: Swap: 1052216k total, 301980k used, 750236k free, 97592k cached |
| 16:18.06 | SerajewelKS | moshii: better compression, no extra data used in the splitting process |
| 16:18.18 | ries | why does the system have 500204k free yet 300MB used on swap? |
| 16:18.37 | SerajewelKS | ries: system memory doesn't include swap? |
| 16:19.00 | moshii | ries: your system has swapped out stuff that isn't in use |
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| 16:19.08 | stew | ries: linux will swap out memory that isn't being used so that more can be used for cache which imporoves system performance |
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| 16:19.37 | SerajewelKS | stew: unless your swap is on a secondary disk that constantly powers down *grumble* |
| 16:19.48 | ries | moshii: Stew, SerajewelKS Oooo ok I see... I use see extreemly high IO wait and try to solve them |
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| 16:20.28 | ries | this is odd, Cpu(s): 14.3% us, 4.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 0.0% id, 81.3% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.0% si isn't it? |
| 16:20.39 | ries | 80% of IO wait, my system even doesn't idle.... |
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| 16:20.50 | abrotman | i blame gentoo |
| 16:21.00 | SerajewelKS | !blame canada |
| 16:21.07 | SerajewelKS | hmm? |
| 16:21.13 | SerajewelKS | !sing blame cananda |
| 16:21.16 | SerajewelKS | !sing blame canada |
| 16:21.16 | dpkg | blame canada, blame canada, it seems that everythings gone wrong since canada came along, blame canada, blame canada, they're not even a real country, anyway |
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| 16:21.19 | SerajewelKS | there it is |
| 16:21.26 | moshii | ries: having that stuff in swap is probably a good idea ;) |
| 16:21.45 | priyank | hey |
| 16:22.03 | priyank | i compiled the kernel using kp-mantra command |
| 16:22.06 | ries | moshii: yes I understand..... myu io wait varies from 10% till 80, sometimes 90%... |
| 16:22.13 | priyank | now what should i do to install it ? |
| 16:22.15 | resiak | !debian kernel image |
| 16:22.15 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who ask about compiling their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
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| 16:22.26 | resiak | priyank: install the resultant .debs |
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| 16:22.33 | vin` | priyank: man dpkg |
| 16:22.35 | priyank | resiak: oh ok.. |
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| 16:25.07 | disposable | where do i find all the magic words <dpkg> reacts to? |
| 16:25.29 | Phated | Heh, it knows >20,000 - don't bother. |
| 16:25.35 | cisse | lol |
| 16:25.52 | new_ | hello, I've just bought a PC Card memory adapter, for reading an MMC read on my IBM X31 Laptop. When I plug it in I get "hde: hde1" looping on the console/dmesg constantly. I've googled it and found other people with the same problem but no solution that works. It appears to something to do with udev according to this url: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/11/4/34 |
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| 16:26.10 | priyank | thanks resiak |
| 16:26.12 | priyank | and vin` |
| 16:26.14 | priyank | brb |
| 16:26.38 | tiny | How can I check if my debian system is ok. I went from testing to stable. I editet /etc/apt/sources.list file and simply changed testing to stable. Then I didn an apt-get update && aptitude upgrade && aptitude dist-upgrade as someone suggested to me on this channel. I didn't get any errors. Is this ok? Should I worry? |
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| 16:26.58 | azeem | tiny: you cannot downgrade |
| 16:26.59 | vin` | disposable: listkeys or listvals |
| 16:27.03 | abrotman | tiny: it's not ok |
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| 16:27.23 | abrotman | tiny: do you know who suggested that to you? |
| 16:27.43 | disposable | vin: tnx :) |
| 16:27.53 | tiny | someone said that it might be possible to go from testing to unstable ... I just went to stable |
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| 16:28.10 | ronin | tiny: i think you have things confused |
| 16:28.19 | tiny | I'm sure I do |
| 16:28.31 | azeem | tiny: you cannot downgrade, only upgrade |
| 16:28.37 | azeem | stable->testing->unstable |
| 16:28.43 | ronin | you sure you didnt go from sarge-stable to testing-etch? |
| 16:28.47 | abrotman | but who would suggest such a thing |
| 16:29.44 | cahoot | noone did |
| 16:29.45 | tiny | 1 sec |
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| 16:29.45 | abrotman | cahoot: he said someone told him to |
| 16:29.45 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:29.45 | nookie | I have script to update my ip to dyndns. How to run it on startup? |
| 16:29.50 | abrotman | nookie: man update-rc.d |
| 16:29.51 | celuken | ssh is good but never used it ....so if AllowTCPForwarding is no i cant ,, i believe? |
| 16:29.59 | celuken | to forward? |
| 16:30.08 | azeem | nookie: or see /etc/network/if-up.d/ |
| 16:30.16 | azeem | nookie: depending on the type of your internet connection |
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| 16:30.43 | abrotman | celuken: is that a question? |
| 16:30.50 | celuken | i want to port forwarding withoput root access ..i need a tool if someone know one |
| 16:30.51 | celuken | yes |
| 16:31.49 | celuken | abrotman :you know one? |
| 16:32.12 | abrotman | nope |
| 16:32.19 | juice` | does anyone know a console tool for downloading something thru proxy (but i wan't this tool to automatically find or at least let me choose from the list of proxy servers to download). i mean, i want to download some pages using different proxy servers, but its hard to find working one from the lists on the web, and change them often |
| 16:32.21 | tiny | He suggested to go from testing to unstable. Don't know why though. Anyway ... I have a stable label in sources.list. This will surely break my system right? I should just install from scratch. |
| 16:32.36 | azeem | tiny: or stay with testing |
| 16:32.46 | celuken | juice` use wget and edit /etc/wgetrc |
| 16:32.48 | juice` | maybe there is some database that can be updated from console |
| 16:32.52 | celuken | to choose your proxy |
| 16:32.54 | new_ | celuken: surely you can do what you need with ssh? |
| 16:33.13 | abrotman | i can't even figure out celuken's question :) |
| 16:33.15 | juice` | celuken: but i can set up only one proxy at a time, right? no way to give wget a list of proxy, and it will select one on their own |
| 16:33.35 | tiny | azeem: I already installed some progs with "stable". |
| 16:33.55 | azeem | tiny: then rename the sources.list lines to testing again and apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 16:34.03 | azeem | if that seems to break a log of stuff, reinstall |
| 16:34.05 | celuken | new the sshd option AllowTCPForwardin is not true |
| 16:34.07 | azeem | but I guess it won't |
| 16:34.14 | juice` | there was/is a plugin for firefox, that was downloading list of proxies and using it. i want something like this for console :) |
| 16:34.26 | celuken | new_ the sshd option AllowTCPForwardin is not true |
| 16:34.37 | new_ | so no-one knows anything about udev flooding dmesg/console? oh well.... |
| 16:34.44 | celuken | so i cant forward ? |
| 16:34.51 | tiny | azeem: ok thanks |
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| 16:34.56 | celuken | i know there is some tool but dont know the name of it |
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| 16:35.15 | ronin | celuken: i think we're still trying to figure out what your asking |
| 16:35.27 | new_ | celuken: ah right... |
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| 16:35.31 | celuken | i wnat to forward a port thgrough a ssh server |
| 16:35.41 | celuken | better said any port |
| 16:35.51 | celuken | how can i do it? |
| 16:35.56 | new_ | celuken: so you are saying the server doesn't have ssh port forwarding enabled but you want to do port forwarding? |
| 16:36.18 | celuken | yes it doesnt have:P but there is another tool that does this |
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| 16:36.32 | celuken | not for ssh ..bit in general |
| 16:36.41 | celuken | but in general |
| 16:36.44 | new_ | celuken: ok, I don't know what that is. sorry. |
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| 16:36.48 | phatfish | could anyone tell me what the difference is between ...binary-1.iso ...binary-2.iso etc? |
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| 16:37.41 | celuken | k ..someone knows a port forawrding tool?? |
| 16:37.52 | prog | celuken: iptables |
| 16:37.54 | MrNaz | phatfish binary-1.iso is disc 1 ... binary-2.iso is, surprise surprise, disc 2 |
| 16:37.58 | prog | celuken: ssh |
| 16:38.07 | phatfish | humm |
| 16:38.12 | celuken | another ..not comonly used |
| 16:38.13 | phatfish | debian is 14 cds? :) |
| 16:38.31 | ronin | phatfish: yes, or one little net install cd |
| 16:38.33 | Rawplayer | FA |
| 16:38.35 | celuken | so i dont need root access |
| 16:38.42 | celuken | only telnet access |
| 16:38.52 | celuken | on the ssh server |
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| 16:39.02 | new_ | celuken: sounds like a cool tool tho, i want a copy... |
| 16:39.05 | SerajewelKS | celuken: telnet access.. on the ssh server? |
| 16:39.11 | prog | :-)) |
| 16:39.13 | SerajewelKS | celuken: if it's an ssh server you have ssh access |
| 16:39.24 | prog | celuken, wake up :-)) |
| 16:39.28 | phatfish | robin, so if i attempted to install with just cd1 it wont work, or are the rest of the cds optional programs? |
| 16:39.35 | phatfish | ronin rather |
| 16:39.36 | ronin | maybe going to the debian channel in your native language would make this easier celuken? |
| 16:39.41 | celuken | i know but from that one i havetelnet access to |
| 16:39.45 | new_ | SerakewlKS: he's saying the ssh server doesnt have port forwarding enabled |
| 16:40.04 | ronin | phatfish: all you need is disk 1 or the netinstall cd, you can get the rest using apt-get, assuming you have a decent speed |
| 16:40.15 | SerajewelKS | new_: he hasn't said that, or anything that resembes that |
| 16:40.18 | SerajewelKS | resembles* |
| 16:40.19 | phatfish | ok thanks |
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| 16:40.43 | ronin | !tell phatfish about d-i |
| 16:41.00 | celuken | k no metter that SerajewelKS ..if you know another one |
| 16:41.19 | SerajewelKS | celuken: what's wrong with ssh forwarding |
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| 16:41.37 | celuken | i dont have root acces so i cant enable that |
| 16:41.39 | ronin | SerajewelKS: i think its because he doesnt have root access so they cant enable it? |
| 16:41.42 | new_ | SerajwelKS: he said "the sshd option AllowTCPForwardin is not true" |
| 16:41.43 | ronin | celuken: ask root |
| 16:41.54 | prog | celuken, can you tell us what exactly are you trying to do ?? |
| 16:41.59 | SerajewelKS | new_: ah |
| 16:42.21 | celuken | i want to download bittorrent files thgrough ssh server |
| 16:42.23 | new_ | and is asking if there is a standalone tool do portforwarding as a normal user. |
| 16:42.24 | SerajewelKS | ronin: perhaps the box admin does not want you proxying stuff? |
| 16:42.31 | celuken | because i am behind a firewall |
| 16:42.34 | invitado-965125 | how can i find out the hsync and vertrefresh for and 15.4 TFT monitor ( max resolution 1280x800 ) |
| 16:42.36 | invitado-965125 | help please |
| 16:42.39 | madclicker | anyone on etch using the "fglrx" module? I have a "framming problem" with a radeon 9250 |
| 16:42.52 | SerajewelKS | invitado-965125: connected with VGA or DVI? |
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| 16:42.59 | cahoot | invitado-965125: try hwinfo --monitor |
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| 16:43.08 | invitado-965125 | ok, it's a laptop |
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| 16:43.23 | SerajewelKS | invitado-965125: probably internally DFP then, it doesn't need sync ranges |
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| 16:44.16 | invitado-965125 | SerajewelKS ok, so what do i do, what do i put in XF86Config ? |
| 16:44.22 | RolandU | hi all! I remember that there was an apt-source that offered many interesting tools such as real-player and skype, however I lost it's name. Anyone know one? |
| 16:44.23 | celuken | so no one knows ....if you do man sshd_config at line AllowTCPForwarding it say there is =no ..you can do it:P |
| 16:44.27 | celuken | k i will google out |
| 16:44.46 | bartden | hi , i'm having some trouble getting ipw2200 module working correctly, each time i try to load it i get this error 5 times, ipw2200: Failed to send TX_POWER: Command timed out. |
| 16:44.55 | madclicker | anyone on etch using the "fglrx" module? |
| 16:45.01 | invitado-965125 | SerajewelKS, except for the modes, where i have 1280x800 |
| 16:45.06 | SerajewelKS | invitado-965125: omit the sync ranges -- don't specify them at all |
| 16:45.09 | djp | what do i need to install in order to playback .mkv files under totem-xine? |
| 16:45.24 | SerajewelKS | invitado-965125: for VGA the X server should figure them out automatically, for DFP/DVI it doesn't need them anyway |
| 16:45.26 | invitado-965125 | SerajewelKS ok, i will try it , thanks |
| 16:45.29 | new_ | celuken: aside from getting the admin to enable port forwarding I don't know any user space tool to do what you want. |
| 16:45.44 | ronin | djp: looked on google? |
| 16:45.56 | invitado-965125 | SerajewelKS , good news then, btw my video card is an nvidia geforce fx |
| 16:46.01 | celuken | k must be one ..i will talk to the admion too but is not easy to find |
| 16:46.03 | invitado-965125 | SerajewelKS i guess a 5xxx |
| 16:46.11 | djp | ronin, yeah, looking at the moment... nothing yet though... |
| 16:46.11 | SerajewelKS | celuken: if forwarding is disabled, it's probably because the box admin *does not* want people proxying traffic through it |
| 16:46.17 | SerajewelKS | invitado-965125: i had an FX5500 |
| 16:46.21 | liavas | how can i check if im currently using the shadow suite or md5 encryption on /etc/shadow? |
| 16:46.25 | SerajewelKS | invitado-965125: recently got a 6600GT |
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| 16:46.32 | ljx980645 | good evening |
| 16:46.41 | invitado-965125 | SerajewelKS cool :) |
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| 16:46.49 | SerajewelKS | invitado-965125: it's pretty nifty |
| 16:46.58 | celuken | yes thast we he dont ..i will ask me to aonly my user:D |
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| 16:47.08 | p3rti | hi |
| 16:47.14 | SerajewelKS | celuken: i don't think he can enable it for only your user |
| 16:47.24 | SerajewelKS | celuken: and proxying bittorrent traffic is not as easy as you might think |
| 16:47.40 | p3rti | someone know a good software to compress a video.. |
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| 16:47.54 | SerajewelKS | p3rti: mencoder, transcode |
| 16:47.55 | p3rti | diferent of avi-utils |
| 16:48.11 | abrotman | ask freshmeat ? |
| 16:48.11 | p3rti | thanks SerajewelKS |
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| 16:49.02 | vin` | azeem: can you fix something on http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 ? |
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| 16:49.19 | invitado-965125 | SerajewelKS ok, i commented out the hsync and vert. refresh rates in XF86Config-4 , and restarted X , but now it starts in 640x480 mode even if i have an 1280x800 mode set in the conf file |
| 16:49.27 | azeem | vin`: can't you fix it yourself? |
| 16:49.29 | invitado-965125 | SerajewelKS any more ideas about it? |
| 16:49.30 | azeem | it's a wiki, after all |
| 16:49.32 | SerajewelKS | invitado-965125: pastebin your config |
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| 16:49.53 | ljx980645 | help |
| 16:49.54 | vin` | azeem: it needs a login, DD only? |
| 16:50.10 | azeem | vin`: it needs a login, but anybody can get an account |
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| 16:50.32 | invitado-965125 | SerajewelKS i'd love to, but i can't , i'm on a dial-up with another machine, had trouble installing the winmodem too |
| 16:50.59 | invitado-965125 | SerajewelKS maybe i can try with the vga driver, not the nv one |
| 16:51.01 | abrotman | invitado-965125: what kind of video card? |
| 16:51.17 | invitado-965125 | abrotman nvidia geforcefx 5xxx |
| 16:51.31 | abrotman | and oyu're using the nv driver? |
| 16:51.41 | invitado-965125 | abrotman it's an FX go 5200 |
| 16:51.44 | invitado-965125 | abrotman yes |
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| 16:52.01 | bartden | how can i install a certain version of a specified package using apt-get ? |
| 16:52.08 | abrotman | check the logs .. see why it won't use anything other than 640x480 |
| 16:52.19 | abrotman | man apt-get should have that |
| 16:52.25 | Jin^eLD | hi, does anyone by chance has the mipsel gcc-3.3.4 binary packages around? I did an extensive search on google, but apparently all mirrors have been updated and have 3.3.5 and 3.3.6 versions, the 3.3.4 packages are nowehere to find :( |
| 16:52.29 | invitado-965125 | abrotman the driver i belive it work's for my card , it's just that i can't get the damn TFT in higher than 1024x768 |
| 16:52.50 | abrotman | check the logs .. they'll help you find out what's wrong |
| 16:52.53 | Webmonkey | the exchange rate on US $ is up and down like a whores knickers today |
| 16:52.59 | abrotman | Jin^eLD: ask #gcc ? |
| 16:53.05 | invitado-965125 | ok .. |
| 16:53.11 | abrotman | Webmonkey: wrong channel ? |
| 16:53.12 | SerajewelKS | Webmonkey: how long did you spend thinking that one up ;) |
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| 16:53.20 | Jin^eLD | abrotman: they do .deb binaries? I did not know that |
| 16:53.25 | Jin^eLD | but thanks for the hint :> |
| 16:53.32 | abrotman | Jin^eLD: oh .. gotcha |
| 16:53.33 | Webmonkey | I just made $200 in last 30 mins :P |
| 16:53.34 | abrotman | Jin^eLD: moment |
| 16:53.39 | Jin^eLD | :) |
| 16:53.39 | djp | ronin, ah, it appears there is no support as yet for .mkv files under totem-xine. mplayer is needed plus mkvtoolnix |
| 16:53.51 | abrotman | Jin^eLD: snapshot.debian.net |
| 16:53.54 | jfs | bartden: apt-cache policy <package>, if there is more than one installation candidate, use apt-get -t, see man apt-get |
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| 16:54.25 | Jin^eLD | abrotman: thanks! lemme see... :> |
| 16:54.30 | vin` | azeem: done, cheers. |
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| 16:55.09 | fmasi | hi where do i get the testing updade repository to put in my source.list i trying to get a god source.list |
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| 16:55.35 | azeem | fmasi: what is wrong with your current one? |
| 16:56.09 | fmasi | ther is only the 2 cds on it |
| 16:56.16 | abrotman | try apt-setup |
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| 16:56.44 | Webmonkey | is low frequency noise dangerous to health? |
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| 16:56.59 | jfs | good question for #debian (: |
| 16:57.05 | abrotman | Webmonkey: do you havea single question related to debian? |
| 16:57.06 | azeem | Webmonkey: please stay on topic |
| 16:57.08 | Webmonkey | you guys are smart |
| 16:57.11 | ronin | jfs: no worse then the rest Webmonkey has asked |
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| 16:57.20 | bucky | it must kill brain cells apparently |
| 16:57.21 | SerajewelKS | Webmonkey: #debian-offtopic |
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| 16:57.49 | BucWheat | what option do i need to enable in XF86Config-4 to prevent the monitor from turning off after a period of inactivity? |
| 16:57.51 | fmasi | abrotman thx |
| 16:57.54 | ludwig | hallo! |
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| 16:58.11 | stew | BucWheat: /msg dpkg screen blanking |
| 16:58.21 | ludwig | Is there anyone who can help me migrating mbox files into a UW-IMAPD suitable format? |
| 16:59.39 | jfs | ludwig: http://www.google.com/search?q=mbox2imap perhaps? |
| 17:00.00 | phyrster | I have this line fron crontab |
| 17:00.02 | phyrster | 59 00 * * * export LC_ALL=C;xmessage test |
| 17:00.06 | phyrster | but it didn't work |
| 17:00.18 | phyrster | the xmessage window does not come up |
| 17:00.32 | jfs | phyrster: DISPLAY? |
| 17:00.48 | phyrster | jfs: ? sorry |
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| 17:00.55 | bbls | hello |
| 17:00.56 | BucWheat | stew when i enter that command it says cannot open X Display |
| 17:01.01 | bbls | where does apt-get caches the downloaded packages? |
| 17:01.11 | BucWheat | stew is there some file i can edit so it will do it everytime for every user that logs in? |
| 17:01.13 | citral | in /var/cache/apt/ ? |
| 17:01.14 | phyrster | jfs: in tty7 , xwindows of course |
| 17:01.42 | jfs | phyrster: you have to set the right DISPLAY env for this cron session to let xmessage be able to open it |
| 17:01.42 | Jin^eLD | abrotman: seems bad luck for me, they had tech difficulties and lost data; it seems what I am searching for is not there... do you know any other similar sites? |
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| 17:01.49 | abrotman | Jin^eLD: that's the only one i knew of .. |
| 17:01.57 | Jin^eLD | damn :( |
| 17:01.58 | bbls | citral, thx |
| 17:02.03 | phyrster | jfs: how to set the Display env for crontab? |
| 17:02.07 | toonX_ | about my TFT monitor .. |
| 17:02.14 | ludwig | jfs: well, I have several folders (mbox format) which I can read with "mutt -f" and which the dovecot-imapd reads well ... |
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| 17:02.19 | toonX_ | hwinfo --monitor does not produce any output at all |
| 17:02.20 | phyrster | I am using X in tty7 |
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| 17:02.25 | toonX_ | why can i be? |
| 17:02.38 | jfs | phyrster: in an xterm do 'echo $DISPLAY' and then just add 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' for example |
| 17:02.42 | stew | BucWheat: you have to run it as the user that started X. you can put it in that users .Xsession, or you can make it global by dropping a file into /etc/X11/Xsession.d |
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| 17:02.49 | toonX_ | like , it give info about allmost everything i have installed, but about the monitor nothing |
| 17:02.52 | abrotman | Jin^eLD: you might be totally out of luck |
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| 17:03.03 | ludwig | jfs, the problem is since dovecot is not working stable, I wanted to migrate to uw-imapd, and uw-imapd cannot read the folders properly (reads the folder as ONE BIG message) |
| 17:03.14 | phyrster | jfs: how to set it permanently? |
| 17:03.15 | BucWheat | stew so add xset dpms force off before i start twm in my .xsession file? |
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| 17:03.25 | Jin^eLD | abrotman: the only chance is to find someone who maybe burned/dloaded a distro from around 2004/09/27.. for mipsel |
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| 17:03.32 | cr3 | when I use the UTF-8 charset and I'm in the shell, if I type "é" and then backspace, it's as if a character is left behind and screws up the command line |
| 17:03.48 | abrotman | Jin^eLD: and the likelihood of that is .. |
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| 17:04.06 | stew | BucWheat: yes |
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| 17:04.12 | jfs | ludwig: this sounds bad, i'm not used to uw-imapd perhaps there's an channel related to this imapd anywhere, there you'll find more help since this sounds uw-imapd related |
| 17:04.37 | phyrster | jfs: put in /etc/environment? |
| 17:04.43 | abrotman | ludwig: what format is dovecot .. what format is uw-imapd ? |
| 17:05.03 | Jin^eLD | abrotman: I know :) heh, well thanks anyway, crosscompiling "fun" for me then ;> |
| 17:05.11 | tkinias | hola -- problems with 2.6.15 kernel I built (it doesn't like my mkinitrd) |
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| 17:05.35 | phyrster | jfs: I exported the Display env variable, but it didn't work |
| 17:05.49 | tkinias | both linux-source-2.6.15 and initrd-tools are from sid |
| 17:06.10 | liavas | how can i check if im currently using the shadow suite (DES) or md5 encryption on /etc/shadow? |
| 17:06.35 | jfs | phyrster: did you create the crontab entry for the user actually running the X session? if not, is the other user authorized to access _your_ Xsession? |
| 17:06.39 | tkinias | any one have any info on why mkinitrd rejects 2.6.15 kernel? |
| 17:06.47 | BucWheat | stew when i did that it turned my monitor completely off |
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| 17:07.02 | liavas | tkinias how do you mkinitrd? |
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| 17:07.44 | phyrster | jfs: I created fro root for system use |
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| 17:07.57 | phyrster | jfs: and root can access the xsession |
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| 17:08.03 | jfs | BucWheat: the options are BlankTime, StandbyTime, SuspendTime, OffTime, each one in minutes, they have to be set within the ServerFlags section |
| 17:08.16 | BucWheat | jfs k. thanks you |
| 17:08.31 | stew | BucWheat: oh the factoid is wrong |
| 17:08.34 | tkinias | liavas: dpkg -i |
| 17:08.54 | tkinias | I built the kernel-image with make_kpkg |
| 17:09.16 | stew | !screen blanking=~ s#xset dpms force off#xset -dpms# |
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| 17:09.24 | stew | !screen blanking =~ s#xset dpms force off#xset -dpms# |
| 17:09.24 | dpkg | stew: OK |
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| 17:10.33 | liavas | tkinias mmm |
| 17:10.53 | liavas | tkinias debian installs it fully-automatic if you just do apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.15 |
| 17:11.05 | jfs | phyrster: what does an 'su - root xmessage test' give? and test 'su root xmessage test' (shouldn't clear your env) |
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| 17:12.07 | tkinias | liavas: umm, I'm trying to use the kernel I built from the source deb |
| 17:12.24 | liavas | ahh |
| 17:12.26 | geeKISSexy | Hi, Does LVM work if compiled statically into the kernel ? |
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| 17:13.15 | vin` | tkinias: you need yaird or similar, why do you need an initrd though? |
| 17:13.26 | geeKISSexy | Are here people who don't use initrd dependent kernel images ? |
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| 17:13.47 | jfs | sure there are |
| 17:13.54 | vin` | geeKISSexy: if you roll your own, get rid of it. |
| 17:14.01 | tkinias | vin`, yaird? never heard of it... |
| 17:14.07 | abrotman | geeKISSexy: many people |
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| 17:14.22 | tkinias | always used initrd kernels (force of habit I guess) |
| 17:14.31 | k31th | Guys, how do i set a secondary dns server ? |
| 17:14.31 | geeKISSexy | vin`: Do you have a kernel which doesn't use initrd ? |
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| 17:14.39 | vin` | geeKISSexy: many. |
| 17:14.43 | k31th | do i just change master to ????? |
| 17:14.45 | madclicker | anyone on etch using the "fglrx" module? |
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| 17:14.47 | jfs | initrd can be useful, but if you don't know what the heck it is, then get rid of it |
| 17:14.50 | k31th | secondary ? |
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| 17:15.02 | BucWheat | jfs what would i put if i never wanted the monitor to stay on all of the time? 0 min? |
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| 17:15.05 | priyank | hey, what do i need to install for alsa ? |
| 17:15.08 | priyank | libasound2 ? |
| 17:15.17 | vin` | !alsa one-liner |
| 17:15.17 | dpkg | alsa one-liner is probably apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 17:15.28 | jfs | BucWheat: yes |
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| 17:15.30 | geeKISSexy | anyone please if you could provide me the .config which doesn't need initrd image to boot would be of great help. |
| 17:15.33 | ludwig | abrotman, I can read the dovecot-folders with mutt, they should be in mbox format |
| 17:15.35 | BucWheat | jfs thanks |
| 17:15.46 | abrotman | ludwig: does uw-imap support mbox? |
| 17:16.08 | tkinias | geeKISSexy, can't you just build w/o the --initrd on make-kpkg? |
| 17:16.18 | ludwig | abrotman, I think so, as it is completely pine-compatible |
| 17:16.31 | geeKISSexy | I'm tired of compiling kernels thinking that yaird/initramfs-tools works fine. I just want to eliminate initrd now. |
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| 17:17.02 | vin` | geeKISSexy: compile your rootfs and drive related options static. |
| 17:17.06 | jfs | ludwig: if you actually have maildir style mailboxes, i'm sure this is uw-imapd related, consult the uw-imapd configs and docs to set the maildir format |
| 17:17.36 | AlexCTI | Hi.. Some one know how setup a Debian on a DELL SC1425 with SATA with right? |
| 17:17.53 | ludwig | jfs, no maildir, since uw-imapd does not support it "out of the box", and uw-imapd does not have a config anyway |
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| 17:18.08 | MrNaz | as a general rule, swap size = 2*ram yes? |
| 17:18.10 | vin` | AlexCTI: tried booting with linux26? |
| 17:18.11 | tkinias | liavas, vin`: found problem -- 2.6.15 needs initramfs-tools but the source .deb doesn't have the dependency (only the -image .deb does) |
| 17:18.15 | geeKISSexy | tkinias: Yes, I can. I have a laptop on which I want to build and it has root-on-lvm. I just don't want to go into the pain of rebuilding in case I missed something. |
| 17:18.28 | geeKISSexy | tkinias: I'm just asking for the .config. Please. |
| 17:18.33 | AlexCTI | The Linux26? is a debian version? |
| 17:18.35 | MrNaz | 2gb ram means swap at 4gb is a good idea? |
| 17:18.39 | vin` | MrNaz: but if your RAM is 1GB, no point in a 2GB swap. |
| 17:18.50 | geeKISSexy | vin`: What about LVM ? What modules need to be enabled statically ? |
| 17:18.51 | vin` | or 2 or 4 |
| 17:18.58 | geeKISSexy | vin`: I have root-on-lvm. |
| 17:19.25 | tkinias | geeKISSexy, don't have one (sorry) |
| 17:19.28 | MrNaz | vin` so whats the max size a swap needs to be? if i have absolutely no other use for that space? is 4gb utterly non-beneficial? |
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| 17:20.00 | AlexCTI | vin', Can u tell me more about linux26? |
| 17:20.06 | AlexCTI | I'm new on debian |
| 17:20.16 | vin` | MrNaz: Swap: 506028k total, 104k used, 505924k free, 188832k cached |
| 17:20.21 | MrNaz | AlexCTI linux26 is just the linux 2.6 kernal.... |
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| 17:20.40 | MrNaz | vin` haha... whats that box used for? |
| 17:21.03 | AlexCTI | ok,, and thats the newest? |
| 17:21.06 | vin` | MrNaz: laptop, personal use. |
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| 17:21.19 | geeKISSexy | tkinias: np. Do you have any idea if LVM would work without being enabled as a module. I don't see a reason why it shouldn't but just wanted to double check. |
| 17:21.20 | MrNaz | AlexCTI thats the newest that debian considers stable |
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| 17:21.22 | Usiu | Jo |
| 17:21.24 | jfs | ludwig: for my experience, maildir on an fs with dir indexes such as reiserfs is in comparison to mbox and mbx very fast. i only use cyrus-imapd or courier-imapd, can only suggest you to use such an imapd supporting maildir format out-of-the-box |
| 17:21.25 | Usiu | Hi |
| 17:21.30 | MrNaz | vin` this is in a DB server thats going to see heavy use |
| 17:21.43 | vin` | MrNaz: then go for it. |
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| 17:22.53 | feistel | hi |
| 17:23.03 | ludwig | jfs, I know the benefits of maildir ("JamBase"), but I am not keen to migrate all the users folders to maildir format (folders I migrated from Outlook to Thunderbird and so got the mboxes) ... |
| 17:23.14 | feistel | how I can mount a ISO image, but with write permission? |
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| 17:26.28 | kyncani | feistel: i thought a default mount was rw ?? |
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| 17:27.20 | feistel | kyncani: mount say rw |
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| 17:27.28 | feistel | but I can't write anything |
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| 17:27.47 | kyncani | any error message ? |
| 17:27.51 | feistel | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.51 | feistel | no |
| 17:28.05 | feistel | kyncani: is possible write in a ISO FS ? |
| 17:28.15 | kyncani | not sure |
| 17:28.18 | feistel | or I need build a new ISO image ? |
| 17:28.21 | feistel | ahh ok |
| 17:28.42 | MrNaz | how do i report a bug in the partitioner? |
| 17:28.44 | stew | feistel: iso9660 is always read only, if you want to change it you create a new one |
| 17:28.52 | stew | MrNaz: /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 17:28.56 | vin` | AlexCTI: start the installer with linux26 instead of just hitting enter. or try a newer kernel if you want. |
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| 17:29.27 | chezmoi | Trying to define super-server internet daemon type... inetd |
| 17:29.27 | chezmoi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.27 | chezmoi | hostname: Unknown host |
| 17:29.27 | chezmoi | dnsdomainname: Unknown host |
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| 17:29.27 | MrNaz | its a bug in the INSTALLER... i.e., i havent installed it yet |
| 17:29.34 | vin` | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 17:29.35 | dpkg | sarge 2.6.15 is probably http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm |
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| 17:29.57 | jfs | dpkg: tell MrNaz about bts |
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| 17:30.11 | vin` | AlexCTI: ^^ or try a daily-build iso if all else fails. |
| 17:30.12 | chezmoi | can u help |
| 17:30.15 | MrNaz | thanks |
| 17:30.19 | tkinias | *rebooted new kernel* :) |
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| 17:30.37 | vin` | tkinias: without initrd? |
| 17:30.49 | jfs | chezmoi: what does /etc/hostname say? |
| 17:31.08 | tkinias | vin`, no, it was the initrd 2.6.15 I built today (I'll try skipping initrd next build) |
| 17:31.23 | vin` | tkinias: with yaird? |
| 17:31.31 | madclicker | anyone on etch using the "fglrx" module? |
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| 17:31.38 | jfs | !anyone |
| 17:31.38 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 17:32.10 | tkinias | vin`, no, just the initrd tools that 2.6.15 binary .debs require |
| 17:32.20 | kyncani | feistel: my bad, can't write to a mounted iso too :| |
| 17:32.23 | tkinias | I've never used anything but the defaults |
| 17:32.39 | madclicker | I have a "framming problem" with a radeon 9250 using the "fglrx" module with etch. can someone help a brother/ |
| 17:32.41 | madclicker | ? |
| 17:32.52 | Usiu | I have a problem with debian's eclipse finish button doesnt work.. any help ?? |
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| 17:33.18 | jfs | madclicker: perhaps #ati can help you more |
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| 17:33.30 | madclicker | jfs, thanks |
| 17:33.47 | AlexCTI | vin, wher do i see the version on my CD-image? |
| 17:33.53 | tkinias | Xquestion: what do I need to add to XF86Config-4 to add an additional USB mouse to my laptop? |
| 17:33.53 | djw | #xen |
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| 17:34.31 | tkinias | I've added an InputDevice section and enabled core events, but no joy |
| 17:34.35 | aidehua | If a user is in a chroot (running as root) can they still do Bad Stuff(TM) (change passwords) and other things that the root user is allowed to do? |
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| 17:35.15 | bartden | hi , anyone here who has some sources lines for installing kde 3.5 or 3.4 |
| 17:35.45 | cahoot | bartden: try debian.user mailing list |
| 17:36.04 | jfs | aidehua: depends on your jail, are there compilers in there, suid root stuff and such questions, search on google for 'break chroot', learn howto break an chroot and use the knowdledge to create a good jail |
| 17:36.27 | aidehua | jfs: thanks for the tip :) |
| 17:36.41 | cahoot | bartden: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/02/thrd2.html |
| 17:36.51 | vin` | AlexCTI: which iso did you download? |
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| 17:37.36 | snikker | hi, how can read the retun key with bash? |
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| 17:38.18 | vin` | snikker: tried #bash? |
| 17:38.21 | jfs | snikker: read DUMMY |
| 17:38.38 | AlexCTI | Vin':Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r0a "Sarge" - Official i386 Binary-1 |
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| 17:39.05 | AlexCTI | vin:Which should i download? |
| 17:39.16 | vin` | AlexCTI: that installer uses the 2.6.8 kernel. |
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| 17:39.24 | vali | lo all |
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| 17:39.38 | MrNaz | vin` download debian 3.1r1 |
| 17:39.41 | chezmoi | can u help |
| 17:39.52 | AlexCTI | vin, great, but when i start to install it doesn't take the harddrives |
| 17:39.58 | jfs | dpkg: tell chezmoi about ask |
| 17:40.27 | snikker | vin: sorry, i've join the wron channel, i'll try in #bash... |
| 17:40.47 | vali | is there any channel specifically related to installation issues? |
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| 17:41.48 | jfs | snikker: 'read DUMMY', or see 'man read' |
| 17:41.53 | vin` | AlexCTI: is this a server? |
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| 17:42.13 | snikker | jfs: ok, thanks |
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| 17:42.25 | ccg | how to adjust mouse senstivitiy, speed etc. in X |
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| 17:42.47 | jfs | snikker: err, it's 'help read' from within bash |
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| 17:43.32 | AlexCTI | yes, it is, is a Dell SC1425 |
| 17:43.34 | snikker | jfs: ok, thanks |
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| 17:44.42 | jfs | ccg: man xset, see section 'm' |
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| 17:47.54 | vin` | AlexCTI: and you want to run sarge on it? |
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| 17:49.00 | AlexCTI | well. thats the idea |
| 17:49.13 | AlexCTI | but wich one do you recomend to me? |
| 17:49.24 | vin` | AlexCTI: try the netinstaller or the business card iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/iso-cd/ and start the installer with 'linux26' |
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| 17:50.41 | AlexCTI | vin: why that question? |
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| 17:51.40 | vin` | AlexCTI: your other option is to use the etch d-i which will give you testing or unstable. (not guaranteed to work, YMMV) |
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| 17:52.04 | vin` | AlexCTI: and not recommended for a production server. |
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| 17:53.26 | trueno | Hi! Is there anything in Linux similar to BSD's gdbe? (encryption down to hdd's physical layer, so to say) |
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| 17:54.54 | AlexCTI | vin, the link that you send me is for production? |
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| 17:55.45 | abrotman | trueno: google "linux encrypted filesystem" |
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| 17:57.01 | AlexCTI | Vin': Onthe CD that I have it startup fine but when id doesn't detect the HD, i send me a main manu, but there is no option to choose raid i SATA or something |
| 17:57.06 | jfs | trueno: i dunno, but i can only suggest using loop-aes.sf.net with 256bit and gpg keys if you need it |
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| 17:58.25 | bibe | hi all. I am looking for a new notebook, and one I like is the Asus A6J. All of its hardware seems to be well supported by Linux, but I couldn't find much related to Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG wireless adapter. Where can I find more info? Is anyone here already using this chipset? (Intel claims a Linux driver will be released in 2006 first quarter) |
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| 17:59.12 | abrotman | bibe: look at intel.com .. |
| 17:59.28 | abrotman | bibe: you'll probably have to wait for them to release a driver |
| 17:59.32 | jfs | bibe: look on tuxmobile.org |
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| 17:59.57 | valeranto | I need help with debian sarge, with KDE.. where can I access the display hardware driver , and where should I look for help? KDE documentation? |
| 18:00.30 | jfs | valeranto: no, readthe Xserver docs |
| 18:00.41 | bibe | abrotman , jfs : thank you |
| 18:00.53 | liavas | trueno: im actually just googling around to check out physical encryption |
| 18:00.58 | valeranto | ok thx. does that have GUI , or will I have to tool around with command line to fix the driver? |
| 18:01.21 | liavas | trueno: i've found TrueCrypt which if free and support both windows and linux though it's not exactly what im looking for |
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| 18:02.14 | jfs | valeranto: just read the docs and edit your XF86Config-4 or Xorg.conf, whatever you use |
| 18:02.15 | trueno | liavas: mm |
| 18:03.01 | AKX | man su | figlet ... :D |
| 18:03.53 | vin` | AlexCTI: the link was for sarge/stable, yes. |
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| 18:04.41 | liavas | trueno: im looking for a specific method- the filesystem/partition/hd is entirely encrypted and during boot im asked to provide the key/password using a medium of type floppy/cd/usb drive and then the fileystsem is decrypted and ready-to-use |
| 18:04.42 | StyXman | hi all |
| 18:04.56 | liavas | i havent found anything like it so far |
| 18:05.21 | ludwig | jfs, looks like if the uw-imapd does not like the "X-imapbase" headers presumably dovecot has add ... |
| 18:05.26 | jfs | AKX: "man man | figlet | lpr and pin it onto your head" would be a nice general answer for many people |
| 18:05.28 | ludwig | jfs, a hint about how to get rid of them? |
| 18:05.35 | StyXman | I had setup a nis server, and I plan to use squid's auth_yp client, but first I want to test that the server works ok. how can i test it w/o setting up a full nis client? |
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| 18:07.11 | trueno | liavas: that's more or less what I am looking for as well |
| 18:07.16 | mirak | why azureus is not a debian package ? |
| 18:07.26 | vin` | AlexCTI: not sure about raid/sata, try #debian-boot if all else fails. |
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| 18:07.34 | jfs | ludwig: just recursively search for ^X-imapbase.* within the maildir and remove the found lines? |
| 18:07.37 | StyXman | mirak: AFAIK, sid has azureus |
| 18:07.38 | pipeline | mirak: Because "Stable" didn't have a complete Java infrastructure. |
| 18:07.51 | ludwig | jfs, I have no maildir - still mboxes! |
| 18:07.51 | liavas | trueno: let me know if you find it :P |
| 18:07.52 | minimec | valeranto: Your display is configured by the X-Server, not by KDE |
| 18:07.55 | pipeline | StyXman, mirak : And yes, sid does indeed package azureus. |
| 18:08.03 | mirak | ok |
| 18:08.04 | sin | if i want to set multiple routes for boot time, can i to that in /etc/network/interfaces or is it a different file? |
| 18:08.15 | pipeline | valeranto: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 18:09.18 | trueno | liavas: Something like this, but it's bsd :-( |
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| 18:09.44 | trueno | liavas http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks-encrypting.html |
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| 18:10.24 | liavas | trueno: and thats only for bsd? |
| 18:10.34 | sandman | When I boot, I get a whole bunch of "Function not implemented." in regards to the /proc filesystem. |
| 18:10.39 | sandman | Does anyone know what this might mean? |
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| 18:10.42 | sandman | It seems very ambiguous. |
| 18:11.31 | kspath | procps? |
| 18:11.32 | jfs | ludwig: then remove all the X-imapbase header lines from the mbox files? backup first |
| 18:11.59 | ludwig | jfs, yes, but how can I avoid doing this manually? |
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| 18:13.26 | trueno | liava: as far as I know, yes. It's something related to the bsd kernel, its modules and stuff |
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| 18:13.50 | jfs | ludwig: since you don't use dovecot anymore, where's the problem? you can use a simple bash script for this, it should be a one-time job? |
| 18:14.15 | liavas | trueno: ahh |
| 18:14.17 | liavas | trueno: ok well |
| 18:14.18 | ludwig | jfs, yes, it should ... but I am now noticing is was not that :( |
| 18:14.26 | liavas | trueno: i gotta go , but keep in touch and goodluck :P |
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| 18:15.02 | lgd_ | buona notte |
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| 18:15.39 | dr1v3r | guys how i check the version of a package again please? |
| 18:15.45 | GutterPunk | Hey |
| 18:15.47 | GutterPunk | Is there a good howto on how to configure sound in Debian? |
| 18:16.25 | jfs | GutterPunk: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 18:16.34 | GutterPunk | Alsaconf can't find any sound card... And I've got 2 in my box. My kernel has every card compiled as a module... but running alsaconf doesnt work |
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| 18:16.43 | GutterPunk | jfs, thanks, I'll check it out |
| 18:16.45 | abrotman | dr1v3r: dpkg -l <pkg> |
| 18:16.49 | abrotman | !tell dr1v3r about refcard |
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| 18:17.16 | dr1v3r | thanks abrotman asorry again |
| 18:17.18 | elno | hi, where i can get support about ATI radeon cards over debian? |
| 18:17.28 | abrotman | !ati |
| 18:17.28 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
| 18:17.37 | dr1v3r | damn i was right in what i thought it was aswell crap |
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| 18:20.34 | DeVeRaS | I've got a Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 kernel and i need to configurate a icedata500 moden. On lsusb it comes has SGS Thomson Microelectronics |
| 18:20.35 | DeVeRaS | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.58 | jfs | !ubuntu |
| 18:20.58 | dpkg | ubuntu is probably not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian.. |
| 18:20.59 | DeVeRaS | it's ubuntu yes... but nobody can help me there :( |
| 18:21.07 | jjazz | Hmm... patch insists on writing the new version to a file. There's no option for writing to STDOUT, although there is an option for specifying the file to write to. Is there any way I can convince patch to write to STDOUT? |
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| 18:21.59 | sin | what is the debian configuration method for defining multiple routes using /etc/network/ ? |
| 18:22.18 | MrNaz | is it better putting swap space on the disks inside cyls or on the outtermost ones? |
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| 18:22.31 | enerv | how i convert chm in pdf? |
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| 18:22.35 | sin | or am i going to have to write a script and put it in the startup rc dir? |
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| 18:22.51 | JPX | hi |
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| 18:23.49 | JPX | does anyone know if lynx supports the viewing of PNG and JPEG images? |
| 18:24.09 | Maulkin | No, it's a text based browser |
| 18:24.10 | dondelelcaro | JPX: through a mailcap viewer, it should. |
| 18:24.20 | enerv | how i convert chm in pdf? |
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| 18:24.38 | jjazz | MrNaz: How many HD do you have? |
| 18:24.41 | pipeline | enerv: Tools to do that exist, but are rather expensive. |
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| 18:24.48 | pipeline | enerv: And they're going to be windows-only. |
| 18:24.55 | pipeline | enerv: CHM is a windows-specific format, after all. |
| 18:25.13 | pipeline | enerv: You can view chm files with xchm, though. |
| 18:25.30 | pipeline | JPX: links2 supports graphics through svgalib or directfb or something. |
| 18:25.53 | enerv | pipeline, ok, thanks :) |
| 18:25.55 | JPX | dondelelcaro: k ty. i'll look into it. |
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| 18:26.40 | h4mster | hi |
| 18:26.53 | dondelelcaro | JPX: but if that's what you want, links or w3m may be better suited |
| 18:27.10 | JPX | pipeline: ok, thought so but wasn't sure re: lynx cause it's more basic. thx |
| 18:27.10 | dondelelcaro | (you can also always save the file in question and view it manually, of course) |
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| 18:27.59 | JPX | dondelelcaro: probably since they also support tables and frames |
| 18:28.00 | neenee | good evening. i am trying to install 'skype1.2-binary'. it depends on 'libqt3c102-mt' but it says that it is not installable. i tried apt-get installing libqt3-mt, but that did not help. |
| 18:28.07 | neenee | suggestions would be most welcome |
| 18:28.17 | trueno | bye |
| 18:28.18 | kristalino | is there an equivalent of adobe illustrator in gnu/linux world ? |
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| 18:28.28 | trueno | liavas: ok, bye! |
| 18:28.30 | cisse | neenee: try just downloading the .deb and installing it with dpkg |
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| 18:28.37 | neenee | cisse: hm. i'll search |
| 18:28.57 | JPX | dondelecaro: if i saved it manually, how would i view it, usinf what prog? |
| 18:29.12 | JPX | (using) |
| 18:29.14 | dondelelcaro | JPX: any program that you want to use |
| 18:29.15 | cisse | kirstalino: karbon, sodipodi http://vectorgraphics.sourceforge.net/editors.php |
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| 18:29.29 | JPX | ok |
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| 18:30.09 | neenee | ah. |
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| 18:30.24 | neenee | cisse: there's a patch for the debian problem on the skype forums =] |
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| 18:30.40 | cisse | nice neenee |
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| 18:30.54 | neenee | yup |
| 18:31.08 | plb | hmmm is songbird thing for Linux? |
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| 18:31.19 | abrotman | what does the website say? |
| 18:31.40 | plb | the website is overloaded =\ |
| 18:31.47 | abrotman | what does slashdot say? |
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| 18:32.10 | plb | bah |
| 18:32.15 | plb | windows bullshit |
| 18:32.17 | MrNaz | is it better putting swap space on the disks inside cyls or on the outtermost ones? |
| 18:32.34 | JPX | plb: MSBS |
| 18:32.36 | cisse | outermost tend to have faster read, so prob there |
| 18:32.42 | plb | JPX: ? |
| 18:32.46 | bbrazil | MrNaz: it tends to make no difference these days |
| 18:32.47 | r121 | anyone know a quick way to make a floppy image from a directory of files? Can mkisofs do floppy images? |
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| 18:33.09 | sin | floppy image? |
| 18:33.11 | MrNaz | cisse outermost? i thought it was the opposite... are you sure? |
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| 18:33.21 | sin | i think its innermost.. |
| 18:33.26 | r121 | sin: yes, don't ask ;) |
| 18:33.27 | JPX | plb microsoft bullshit |
| 18:33.29 | MrNaz | sin i thought so too |
| 18:33.31 | usn | good evening |
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| 18:33.39 | h4mster | i'm quite new to debian; now i've managed to install it with kernel 2.4.27 on my thinkpad T43p. well, i'd rather have 2.6.8; installed it via apt-get, but when i try to boot it, it says that it can't open /dev/console |
| 18:33.42 | cisse | the ones towards the edge of the platter (whatever they're called) |
| 18:33.48 | h4mster | any help? |
| 18:33.56 | cisse | have a higher circumference = faster head speed = faster read |
| 18:34.03 | plb | JPX: ah ;] |
| 18:34.03 | JPX | ;) |
| 18:34.25 | MrNaz | cisse how does greater circumference lead to faster head speed? |
| 18:34.29 | vy | can you guys recommend a tool to convert .dbx files (outlook express mail format) to unix mail format? |
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| 18:34.42 | sin | that seems like it would make is slower cisse |
| 18:34.58 | cisse | ? |
| 18:35.03 | JPX | anyhow, thx for the earlier help and advice ppl. greatly appreciated. :) |
| 18:35.03 | plb | JPX: well at least its opensource anyway ;] |
| 18:35.08 | MrNaz | cisse the outer tracks have the same number of blocks as the innermost ones... |
| 18:35.18 | cisse | hrmmm |
| 18:35.20 | JPX | plb: yes that true |
| 18:35.22 | Maulkin | vy: under linux, or windows? |
| 18:35.25 | cisse | then inner is faster mrnaz |
| 18:35.27 | Eulex | h4mm3r`, you're hdd is sata? |
| 18:35.29 | jjazz | MrNaz: there are more sectors on the outer rings. They platter spins at constant speed (it's either on or off). The sectors at the outside will pass under read heads at a greater rate than sectors inner. |
| 18:35.34 | vy | Maulkin: doesn't matter |
| 18:35.36 | plb | hopefully it will get ported to linux |
| 18:35.36 | Eulex | *your |
| 18:35.40 | plb | looks pretty nice |
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| 18:35.56 | plb | http://www.boingboing.net/images/screenshot_library.png |
| 18:36.00 | MrNaz | jjazz im reasonalby sure that the number of sectors are constant on all cyls |
| 18:36.07 | h4mm3r` | Eulex: no |
| 18:36.08 | abrotman | plb: what language is it done in ? |
| 18:36.10 | MrNaz | i'm also reasonably sure i can spell reasonably |
| 18:36.17 | cisse | mrnax: that doesn't make sense, you're making an inefficient disk |
| 18:36.21 | Maulkin | vy: try http://people.freenet.de/ukrebs/dbxconv.html |
| 18:36.23 | plb | abrotman: not sure, just saw it pop up on slashdot |
| 18:36.25 | sin | jjazz it would take longer for a full rotation of the disk to pass under the head at the outer rings |
| 18:36.33 | Eulex | h4mm3r`, anything else that might be special about it? |
| 18:36.36 | MrNaz | cisse i dont make disks, maxtor, wd and seagate do. |
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| 18:36.49 | h4mm3r` | about what? about sata? |
| 18:36.55 | cisse | lol |
| 18:37.02 | jpinto | Hello, does anyone have a centrino working (the wireless part) on debian? |
| 18:37.02 | vy | Maulkin: thanks so much |
| 18:37.18 | chreekat | has anyone been complaining about their wireless system? I'm on an IBM thinkpad R51 with Debian Testing, using the ipw2200 module with a 2.6.12.3 custom-built kernel, and recently my network system has been just 'going away'. It did it twice while I was typing this message |
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| 18:37.34 | chreekat | I run 'ifdown eth1;ifup eth1' to make it come back |
| 18:37.35 | plb | abrotman: from the article "Built on the same platform as Firefox, Songbird acts like a specialized web browser for music." |
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| 18:37.43 | MrNaz | cisse / jjazz http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/geom/tracks-c.html |
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| 18:38.03 | MrNaz | phew... for a minute there i thought everything i knew about disks was all wrong haha |
| 18:38.11 | Eulex | h4mm3r`, the hdd |
| 18:38.11 | foo | I am on debian sarge and I do this: apt-get install libapache-mod-perl .. but I get this - ibapache-mod-perl: Depends: apache-common (< 1.3.34-0) but 1.3.34-1 is to be installed |
| 18:38.15 | foo | Any ideas? |
| 18:38.20 | chreekat | I get no useful messages in syslog or kern.log |
| 18:38.20 | jjazz | MrNaz: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Partition/ |
| 18:38.39 | MrNaz | jjazz aah a partioning guide was what i was after thanks |
| 18:38.50 | h4mm3r` | no sorry |
| 18:38.57 | h4mm3r` | do u have some problems? |
| 18:39.02 | Eulex | h4mm3r`, you could test the 2.6.12 kerne from testing. |
| 18:39.13 | jjazz | MrNaz: no problem. |
| 18:39.16 | Eulex | h4mm3r`, no, I'm just asking |
| 18:39.27 | h4mster | help? ^^ |
| 18:39.44 | jpinto | Hi, does anyone have ieee80211 module working on debian? |
| 18:39.59 | h4mm3r` | sincerely i'm still using kernel 2.4.x |
| 18:40.18 | h4mster | i've managed to install it with kernel 2.4.27 on my thinkpad T43p. But i'd rather have 2.6.8; so i installed it via apt-get, but when i try to boot it, it says that it can't open /dev/console.... |
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| 18:40.34 | h4mster | help? |
| 18:40.40 | h4mm3r` | did u config it correctly? |
| 18:40.47 | plb | abrotman: hrm songbirds welcome screen says "Songbird is a media browser and Web player built from Firefox's browser engine. Songbird is open source, will run on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux and supports user contributed, cross-platform extensions." |
| 18:40.48 | cisse | MrNaz: i just looked on storagereview benchmarks, innermost zone has losted sustained transfer |
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| 18:41.11 | MrNaz | cisse losted? |
| 18:41.12 | Eulex | h4mm3r`, ah, sorry. the things I said above was aimed at h4mster :) |
| 18:41.19 | h4mster | google told me about some errors with sata hdds, but mine is ide :/ |
| 18:41.34 | chreekat | jpinto: what problems are you havinG? |
| 18:41.50 | h4mm3r` | Eulex: i supposed it ... :D it's ok |
| 18:41.52 | cisse | MrNaz: least |
| 18:41.56 | cisse | er lowest |
| 18:42.00 | h4mm3r` | even if it was so strange to chat on this channel |
| 18:42.04 | h4mster | Eulex: i'm running stable atm |
| 18:42.06 | cisse | http://storagereview.com/articles/200601/250_3.html |
| 18:42.08 | MrNaz | cisse URL ? |
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| 18:42.11 | MrNaz | thanks :) |
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| 18:42.34 | Eulex | h4mster, you can still just download the 2.6.12 kernel from testing and dpkg -i it |
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| 18:42.58 | h4mster | Eulex: i'll give it a try |
| 18:43.05 | abrotman | plb: i ugess that's good |
| 18:43.29 | chreekat | jpinto: I got the ieee80211 module installed a long time ago, but it's acting up now. :-/ I was hoping someone else was having problems, so I would know it isn't my hardware |
| 18:43.43 | h4mster | any other suggestions? I don't want to have to come in here and explain everything again at every single error ;) |
| 18:45.03 | Sonderblade_ | i have added "universe" to my sources.list, but when i try to update apt says it "Couldn't stat source package" |
| 18:45.12 | h4mster | or problem, to express it more accurately |
| 18:45.13 | plb | abrotman: yeah, its looks promising |
| 18:45.25 | abrotman | plb: if it works |
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| 18:45.35 | plb | abrotman: yep |
| 18:45.44 | strider | chreekat: you may also want to try #ipw2100 |
| 18:45.53 | plb | abrotman: its pretty cool that it can use extensions |
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| 18:46.01 | ronin | Sonderblade_: universe? |
| 18:46.20 | abrotman | Sonderblade_: #ubuntu |
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| 18:46.29 | priyank | hi |
| 18:46.38 | Sonderblade_ | oh :) what's it called in debain then? |
| 18:47.10 | stew | Sonderblade_: off-topic |
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| 18:47.28 | ronin | Sonderblade_: which are you running ubuntu or debian? |
| 18:47.29 | jpinto | chreekat: hi! sorry i was doing some reading. Well.. my problem from the start is that iwconfig don't get any interface with "wireless extensions". |
| 18:47.36 | Sonderblade_ | ronin: debain |
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| 18:47.56 | strider | Sonderblade_: mean experimental? |
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| 18:48.22 | ft | !debain |
| 18:48.26 | plb | abrotman: they got a channel here on freenode #songbird |
| 18:48.38 | abrotman | so go there! |
| 18:48.41 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 18:48.49 | plb | abrotman: I just did! =) |
| 18:48.51 | stagge | hihp |
| 18:48.53 | jpinto | chreekat: lspci give this: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG MiniPCI Adapter (rev 05) |
| 18:48.54 | abrotman | Sonderblade_: debian does not have universe |
| 18:49.03 | abrotman | Sonderblade_: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 18:49.03 | stagge | could anybody please tell me how i can change my partition sizes and add or remove partitons in debian sarge? |
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| 18:49.17 | Sonderblade_ | strider: i mean all those packages not maintained by debian persons |
| 18:49.29 | h4mster | stagge: fdisk ^^ |
| 18:49.31 | Sonderblade_ | those "possibly nonfree" stuff |
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| 18:49.46 | chreekat | jpinto: ok, looks like we have different problems. :-/ Good luck with yours |
| 18:49.46 | stagge | h4master: thx, goning to try it :) |
| 18:49.59 | h4mster | stagge: (command-line, standard tool afaik) |
| 18:50.06 | jpinto | chreekat: By the way, what is your problem? |
| 18:50.41 | chreekat | I've already discussed it above; to avoid spamming you can come to #ipw2100 and watch me describe it again. :) |
| 18:50.46 | Sonderblade_ | abrotman: ?? |
| 18:50.57 | jpinto | oh! ok :-) |
| 18:51.01 | goatdevil | hello! :) which cmd displays system load ? |
| 18:51.02 | jjazz | stagge: GNU parted |
| 18:51.11 | bartden | hi, i'm tryin to install kde 3.5.1, i added the correct deb line, when i do apt-get install kde, i get the following error, the following packages have non-aquired depends , and the a list of packages such as kde-core and stuff, the error is translated so mind the english |
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| 18:51.34 | stew | goatdevil: uptime is one of many that do, top is an interactive monitor |
| 18:51.43 | stagge | jjazz: stagge: GNU parted ?? |
| 18:51.51 | jjazz | stagge: apt-cache show parted |
| 18:51.56 | Sonderblade_ | what is the repository called that has python2.4-profiler? |
| 18:52.22 | abrotman | !tell Sonderblade_ about non-free |
| 18:52.25 | abrotman | !tell Sonderblade_ about contrib |
| 18:52.33 | priyank | hey, i just installed urxvt. but when i run it, i get the following error. anyone knows what could be wrong ? |
| 18:52.36 | priyank | urxvt: unable to load base fontset, please specify a valid one using -fn, aborting. |
| 18:52.48 | jjazz | Sonderblade_: non-free |
| 18:52.54 | stagge | jjazz: thx! |
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| 18:53.11 | strider | Sonderblade_: it's in non-free |
| 18:53.16 | dw_ | would it be possible to set up some type of rule so that my upload rate would never exceed X kb/sec? |
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| 18:53.45 | prog | dw_: yes, of course |
| 18:53.52 | strider | !tell Sonderblade_ about non-free |
| 18:54.03 | dw_ | prog: really! |
| 18:54.09 | dw_ | prog: how? :) |
| 18:54.13 | Sonderblade_ | thankyou! |
| 18:54.15 | prog | dw_: man tc |
| 18:54.28 | chealer | bartden: ask #debian-kde |
| 18:55.09 | prog | dw_: what is the sense of your try ? |
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| 18:55.41 | stagge | thankyou, have a nice day! |
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| 18:55.47 | FlimFlamMan | hi. how can i view a quicktime .mov file on sarge? |
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| 18:56.08 | dmz | anyone know how I can tell a "basic" debian system to _not_ use devfs? |
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| 18:56.35 | dw_ | prog: I'm running a server here, but it's become very popular, so when the upload rate is high it chokes my download rate. |
| 18:56.36 | prog | fs |
| 18:56.58 | citral | FlimFlamMan: ever tried apt-cache search quicktime? |
| 18:57.17 | FlimFlamMan | citral, i sure have, and mplayer and vlc with w32codecs don't work for me. |
| 18:57.36 | citral | personally I see xmovie |
| 18:57.38 | citral | in contrib |
| 18:57.43 | prog | dw_: which services are you using ? apache ? proftpd ? each of these mentioned programs has some limiting options |
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| 18:57.50 | wmcinnis | hi |
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| 18:58.05 | wmcinnis | i just installed debian and i dont have any sound i ran alsamixer and i have all my mixer elements |
| 18:58.08 | wmcinnis | but no sound |
| 18:58.17 | gfa | me too :( |
| 18:58.24 | prog | wmcinnis: alsaconf |
| 18:58.26 | gfa | i was going to ask just the same... |
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| 18:58.31 | wmcinnis | i ran that |
| 18:58.39 | dw_ | prog: both actually, but it's apache that's taking all the bandy. Unfortunately the only reasonable modules for apache I found were for 1.3 |
| 18:58.54 | prog | and have you your snd_driver loaded, wmcinnis ? |
| 18:58.54 | stew | are you sure the channels are unmuted? (they should have OO at the bottom, not MM) |
| 18:58.56 | dw_ | prog: and all the ones I've seen have always been client-specific, whereas I want to limit the entire upload rate on the server |
| 18:59.01 | wmcinnis | prog, yes |
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| 18:59.17 | stew | dw_: wondershaper is a good place to start |
| 18:59.24 | prog | wmcinnis, have you /dev/dsp0 device reachable ? |
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| 18:59.36 | eheil | Sounds like a similar problem I've having on one of my boxes that I have an CS 46XX chipset. |
| 18:59.36 | dw_ | prog: oh? |
| 18:59.51 | dw_ | prog: I'd rather just limit it through tc (looks like the right thing) if it'll work easily |
| 18:59.51 | wmcinnis | prog, i have /dev/dsp |
| 19:00.04 | prog | and the permissions, vmcinnis ? |
| 19:00.12 | FlimFlamMan | has anyone personally used a player/lib combination in the sarge repositories to play quicktime .mov files? |
| 19:00.26 | priyank | how can i list files installed by a particular package? |
| 19:00.35 | prog | dpkg -L package |
| 19:00.35 | dpkg | No packages found matching package |
| 19:00.44 | wmcinnis | crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 3 2006-02-08 08:21 dsp |
| 19:00.48 | priyank | prog: thanks |
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| 19:01.21 | eheil | I've even explicatelly specified that all channels should not be muted via amixer's interface. Yeah, I also have /dev/dsp, too. I can cat something to /dev/dsp and I hear static, so its not a question of whether the soundcard works. |
| 19:01.43 | whaq | hello |
| 19:01.55 | whaq | i'm having problem with usb-storage, it basically floods the log files (dmesg) with 'transfer complete' and 'xfer xxx bytes' messages. why is this? |
| 19:02.12 | dw_ | prog: tc looks quite complex, I really wouldn't like to muck with anything so serious. Any pointers on how to use it for my specific scenario? |
| 19:02.14 | prog | whaq: because of debugging turned on ? |
| 19:02.20 | stew | whaq: what does "uname -r" say |
| 19:02.40 | whaq | prog, where can i turn that off? |
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| 19:02.49 | whaq | stew - it's an old box. 2.4.21. |
| 19:03.00 | wmcinnis | eheil, same problem here |
| 19:03.24 | dondelelcaro | whaq: it's a kernel compilation option; you may be able to control it using a kernel command line option as well. |
| 19:03.34 | h4mster | brb |
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| 19:05.08 | eheil | wwmcinnis: What kind of sound card do you have? |
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| 19:05.59 | whaq | dondelelcaro, i don't suppose you remember the parameter or the references to it off hand? can't seem to pull this off google. vague keywords. |
| 19:06.26 | wmcinnis | eheil, 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) |
| 19:06.37 | stew | whaq: i'd start by checking in doc/kerenl-parameters.txt in the kernel sources |
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| 19:06.43 | prog | dw_, for example http://cband.linux.pl/ |
| 19:06.49 | whaq | stew, thanks. |
| 19:06.54 | mhall | whaq: fgrep -ir the kernel Documentation dir |
| 19:07.18 | prog | dw_, or see mod_bandwidth |
| 19:07.22 | dw_ | prog: yup, I've looked at both of those. |
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| 19:07.34 | whaq | stew, oh. unfortunately i don't have kernel sources handy. |
| 19:07.35 | T-REX001 | Hey, how can I encrypt all my files on a normal EXT3 server??? When someone jacks my hdd and tries to read the files by plugging it next to own OS I want him to see nothing, how can I make that work ??? |
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| 19:07.55 | T-REX001 | Samba shares should work normally though |
| 19:07.58 | whaq | kernel doc should be googeable. hrm.. |
| 19:08.07 | prog | T-REX001: cryptofs |
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| 19:08.19 | T-REX001 | prog thanx... I`ll google it |
| 19:08.27 | jcm357 | Hello all. Anyone can help me with Via K8M800 video chipse? |
| 19:08.31 | jcm357 | t |
| 19:08.46 | T-REX001 | prog : but cryptofs is an encryption that can be used on ext3 ??? |
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| 19:09.20 | sepski | how acurate is the bogomips in /proc/cpu. is it natural that bogomips (the command) returns less then half of /proc/cpu. |
| 19:09.28 | dw_ | prog: know how to do it with tc? |
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| 19:10.50 | blahh | hello all |
| 19:11.18 | blahh | i wanted to know...my apt cache has reached 3 gig...does it have to stay? |
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| 19:12.14 | Gnea | blahh: you mean /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? |
| 19:12.19 | blahh | yup |
| 19:12.21 | sepski | blahh, not unless you need it. apt-get clean |
| 19:12.38 | blahh | what would be an example of needing it? |
| 19:12.59 | Gnea | uhm, nothing heh |
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| 19:13.04 | sepski | also consider autoclean. read the manpage of apt-get |
| 19:13.05 | Gnea | apt-get clean can take care of that |
| 19:13.35 | blahh | gotcha thanks guys |
| 19:13.42 | Gnea | blahh: unless it's something like unstable where a package might need to step back to find a fix, that'd be about it |
| 19:14.03 | sepski | blahh, needing to reinstall a package becosue you randomly rm's in a directory :) |
| 19:14.07 | blahh | :s |
| 19:14.17 | sepski | but then you'd get it from snapshot tho |
| 19:14.18 | Gnea | yeah i wouldn't worry about it, no prob |
| 19:14.44 | charzero | I installed an rpm with alien, and now every time i try to run apt-get, it says that it needs to be reinstalled. What do i do? |
| 19:14.47 | blahh | cool |
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| 19:15.53 | sepski | charzero, the best thing would be to install it as a deb package if it's available as one |
| 19:16.18 | charzero | sepski: not available. |
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| 19:16.54 | sepski | charzero, that's one very freaky rare software you'r running then |
| 19:17.28 | sepski | charzero, install it by source in /usr/local then atlest it wont bug apt anylonger |
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| 19:19.31 | charzero | sepski: source is not available. |
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| 19:20.39 | blahh | worked like a charm...ahhh space...can breath normally again |
| 19:20.52 | sepski | charzero, put it on hold then. |
| 19:20.57 | blahh | love ya'll chow amigos! |
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| 19:21.05 | sepski | !hold |
| 19:21.05 | dpkg | hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' |
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| 19:24.04 | charzero | sepski: Still says that. |
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| 19:24.56 | blondie | laps don't fly |
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| 19:25.35 | _MiTo_ | can someone here interpret some lines from exim log for me ? |
| 19:25.45 | blondie | #exim c.c |
| 19:25.45 | _MiTo_ | something I found suspicious |
| 19:25.53 | nadjyla | hello |
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| 19:27.41 | charzero | How does apt know if a program needs to be reinstalled? |
| 19:27.57 | buht-w | anyone recommend a network monitoring utility to show connected IP's to samba shares and general connection status of IP's to the system? |
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| 19:28.33 | buht-w | nagios doesnt seem to load on my system with etch, dont know why but it hangs settng up nagios-common , so im asking about others |
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| 19:28.40 | buht-w | prog, i left out GUI :) |
| 19:29.10 | jcm357 | Anyone can help me with Via K8M800 (VT3108) video chipset? |
| 19:29.34 | ZigZag | hi! I borked up my /etc/sudoers file on my maemo device, does anybody know if it's possible to recover this without reformatting the whole thing? asking here as a last chance. #maemo didn't know how to do it. |
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| 19:32.32 | groogs | i have a 3rd party DB that contains passwords i'd like to keep in sync with my main unix and LDAP server... does anyone know of a pam module that can run an external program when the password changes? |
| 19:32.35 | madclicker | what is the package name for "make-kpkg" |
| 19:32.54 | amphi | madclicker: kernel-package |
| 19:32.57 | invsblduck | madclicker: kernel-package, sucka. |
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| 19:33.19 | amphi | madclicker: sorry, I forgot the 'sucka' ;) |
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| 19:33.51 | madclicker | thanks gents |
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| 19:34.42 | ludwig | Hello! I just start another try - is there anyone who can help me with a stupid issue regarding "uw-imapd" and the "mbox" format? |
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| 19:37.13 | _MiTo_ | 2006-02-07 08:55:39 1F6NhL-0003K8-6e <= china9988@21cn.com H=0x535c8557.vgnxx2.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk (funkis-trmsrv) [83.92.133.87] P=esmtp S=374 |
| 19:37.14 | _MiTo_ | well |
| 19:37.14 | ludwig | well? |
| 19:37.18 | _MiTo_ | what should that mean |
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| 19:40.28 | ttick | :1 |
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| 19:41.38 | abrotman | ludwig: can other programs read the mbox ? |
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| 19:42.33 | ludwig | abrotman, yes, "dovecot-imapd" I am migrating from and "mutt -f MBOXNAME" do |
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| 19:42.48 | mike_ | Can i run Debian on a sparc-64? |
| 19:42.56 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 19:42.56 | dpkg | i heard sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 19:43.10 | mike_ | abrotman, thanks :) |
| 19:43.26 | abrotman | ludwig: i'm trying to think of another imapd that does mbox |
| 19:43.33 | abrotman | (mbox is such a pain) |
| 19:43.47 | abrotman | ludwig: you could also convert your mbox to maildir |
| 19:43.50 | abrotman | and then use courier |
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| 19:44.15 | ludwig | abrotman, it is about 4gb of mbox folders of about 20 users ... |
| 19:44.16 | DevilChaos | hello |
| 19:44.40 | abrotman | ludwig: oh .. try not to lose it all in one shot then :) |
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| 19:44.59 | ludwig | abrotman, I have always had very good experience with uw-imapd, this was the first time I tried dovecot (because of the sql-authentication offered), but it is not stable |
| 19:45.04 | DevilChaos | anyone know what reader i need for .pps files please? |
| 19:45.20 | abrotman | !pps |
| 19:45.22 | abrotman | nope |
| 19:45.33 | abrotman | ludwig: so it worked before? and now it doesn't? |
| 19:46.17 | jjazz | DevilChaos: openoffice.org |
| 19:46.32 | dondelelcaro | unless you've got lots of users with tiny mailboxes, mbox is kind of crappy |
| 19:46.37 | dondelelcaro | (or users who don't get much mail) |
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| 19:46.45 | madclicker | i am running "make-kpkg --append-to-version "-1-686-smp" --revision 2.6.12-1 --config old configure" command to build a fglrx-kernel module. It is asking me a whole bunch of questions with [Y,n,?] what should i do? |
| 19:46.51 | dondelelcaro | use dovecot with maildir; it's stable, and you'll be much happier. |
| 19:46.55 | mmiikkee12 | just so you know, your bot is a little messed up |
| 19:46.58 | mmiikkee12 | !linux |
| 19:46.58 | dpkg | hmm... linux is closed |
| 19:46.59 | abrotman | madclicker: answer them? |
| 19:47.11 | dondelelcaro | madclicker: you don't do that to build just a module; it's asking you configuration questions to build your kernel. |
| 19:47.14 | DevilChaos | jjazz:k :) |
| 19:47.21 | abrotman | ludwig: how many messages are in the smallest mbox ? |
| 19:47.25 | ludwig | abrotman, not here at this customer ... I imported the outlook-express folders into thunderbird (uses mbox) and copied them into the imap-directories ... works quite fine and mutt is nice |
| 19:47.41 | dondelelcaro | madclicker: if you want to build a kernel, use your current configuration, then run that command. |
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| 19:47.44 | ludwig | abrotman, I am actually trying one with about 12 messages .. |
| 19:47.57 | ludwig | abrotman, I have removed the X-UID and the Content-length headers ... |
| 19:48.26 | abrotman | ludwig: all i can say is that maildir is way way better for large mailboxes .. and courier and dovecot support maildir |
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| 19:48.39 | dondelelcaro | ludwig: what is the problem that you're having with dovecot? |
| 19:48.51 | ludwig | abrotman, thx |
| 19:48.59 | abrotman | i have a problem with dovecot in sarge |
| 19:49.08 | dondelelcaro | really? |
| 19:49.11 | abrotman | ludwig: what kind of crashes is dovecot showing you |
| 19:49.16 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: no shared dir support :) |
| 19:49.25 | madclicker | dondelelcaro, how do i use my "current configurations"? |
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| 19:49.37 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, it simply hangs in a loop Feb 8 07:47:00 harmserv dovecot: imap(duerkop): file mbox-sync-rewrite.c: line 106 (mbox_sync_headers_add_space): assertion failed: (start_pos < data_size) |
| 19:49.38 | ludwig | Feb 8 07:47:00 harmserv dovecot: child 31177 (imap) killed with signal 6 |
| 19:49.38 | ludwig | Feb 8 07:47:04 harmserv dovecot: imap(duerkop): file mbox-sync-rewrite.c: line 106 (mbox_sync_headers_add_space): assertion failed: (start_pos < data_size) |
| 19:49.38 | ludwig | Feb 8 07:47:04 harmserv dovecot: child 31180 (imap) killed with signal 6 |
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| 19:49.53 | ludwig | sorry! |
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| 19:50.17 | bullet2000 | hi |
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| 19:50.27 | bullet2000 | im at school |
| 19:50.49 | dondelelcaro | ludwig: that really sounds like something is shrinking the mailbox when dovecot is trying to access it |
| 19:50.53 | Shaolinx | Como faço pra achar canais de IRC brasileiros ? |
| 19:50.58 | dondelelcaro | !br |
| 19:50.58 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 19:51.03 | Shaolinx | brasilian IRCs ?:?? |
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| 19:51.30 | abrotman | Shaolinx: /j #debian-br |
| 19:51.30 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, well, there is no one else accessing this file |
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| 19:51.48 | pwned | transparency. I want it now! |
| 19:51.52 | pwned | how to get it? |
| 19:52.01 | abrotman | !tell __root___ about root |
| 19:52.02 | pwned | is debian going to ease this? |
| 19:52.02 | cisse | xcompmgr transset |
| 19:52.10 | DevilChaos | i want to use kernel 2.6.15-1-k7 do i need to be unstable for to get it in apt or can i do an apt-get install? |
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| 19:52.21 | DevilChaos | currently on testing etch |
| 19:52.22 | pwned | I don't see xcompmgr and transset in my repositories |
| 19:52.30 | cisse | DevilChaos: you need unstable sources in /etc/apt/sources.list but you can still run stable/testing |
| 19:52.43 | DevilChaos | ah |
| 19:52.45 | dondelelcaro | ludwig: oh... looks like it's related to #323001 |
| 19:52.47 | abrotman | pwned: they're not there yet |
| 19:52.48 | cisse | pwned: deb http://debian.linux-systeme.com sid main |
| 19:53.00 | dondelelcaro | ludwig: do these mboxes by chance have \r\n instead of just \n? |
| 19:53.01 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, beg you pardon? |
| 19:53.05 | pwned | I am on amd64 as well! |
| 19:53.06 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 323001 |
| 19:53.09 | dpkg | #323001:N[dovecot-imapd] dovecot-imapd: IMAP assertion failure and crash (istream_raw_mbox_get_body_size); Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:33:08 UTC |
| 19:53.09 | abrotman | cisse: you're not going to tell him the rest? |
| 19:53.16 | DevilChaos | cisse: i know unstable speaks for its self but how buggy is it? |
| 19:53.23 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, yes, they do |
| 19:53.26 | jjazz | DevilChaos: google apt-get pinning to see how to stay with testing but get invididual sid packages. |
| 19:53.38 | dondelelcaro | ludwig: just on a lark, make a backup of that mbox, and ditch the \r\n |
| 19:53.49 | dondelelcaro | ludwig: then point dovecot at it |
| 19:54.07 | abrotman | !tell DevilChaos about sid faq |
| 19:54.10 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, I have a try now (first reinstalling dovecot-imapd ... ) a dos2unix should do? |
| 19:54.16 | dondelelcaro | ludwig: it should, yes. |
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| 19:54.28 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, ok, mom |
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| 19:55.06 | DevilChaos | ty :) |
| 19:56.03 | zinx | pwned: no xcompmgr for YUO |
| 19:56.12 | grover | a cron question: I'm running testing and using backupninja. I am seeing it running every night at 1am (good) but I'm trying to understand why it's running at 1am instead of every hour, as /etc/cron.d/backupninja would have me believe |
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| 19:56.26 | pwned | zinx: oh noes! |
| 19:56.36 | pwned | I think I found it in alioth experimental |
| 19:56.36 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, now trying ... |
| 19:56.42 | grover | 0 * * * * means every hour, yes? |
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| 19:56.56 | blahh | why does artsd consume so much mem? |
| 19:57.12 | h4mster | hey there, i'm still trying to upgrade from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 19:57.53 | h4mster | i've been told to try 2.6.12 (testing), but I don't even get that far :-/ |
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| 19:58.31 | abrotman | whynot use the 2.6.8 in sarge ? |
| 19:58.54 | blahh | 2.6.15-14-server |
| 19:59.00 | blahh | that rocks |
| 19:59.16 | h4mster | abrotman: when i try to boot it, it tells me that it can't open /dev/console |
| 19:59.43 | blahh | do you have enough space in /boot ? |
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| 19:59.52 | areeves | i can't get my mice to work in XFree86 |
| 19:59.53 | abrotman | !devconsole |
| 19:59.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, devconsole is http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2005-October/011299.html |
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| 20:01.10 | blahh | artsd memory anyone? |
| 20:01.15 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, looks if that was it (with dovecot) ... |
| 20:01.20 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, thx a lot |
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| 20:01.55 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, but what if the problem persists? Migrating to uw-imapd does not work like it should |
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| 20:02.14 | dondelelcaro | ludwig: what problem? |
| 20:02.35 | h4mster | thx dpkg, i'll see if it helps :) |
| 20:02.48 | star-trekio | When I install debian it defualts to 800x600 on x windows |
| 20:02.53 | star-trekio | hows do iza fixit |
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| 20:03.09 | star-trekio | using redhat linux is like have crabs in my underwear |
| 20:03.15 | star-trekio | I love corporate life |
| 20:03.23 | star-trekio | when im getting ym paycheck |
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| 20:04.10 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, the one I quoted (and got kicked of the channel) ... |
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| 20:04.55 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, there was also another problem with moving a message into a folder - it was copied several thousend times (it was copied as long as the user did not break) |
| 20:05.11 | h4mster | The fix is to boot from a live or recue CD, (....) how to get one? *being ashamed of himself* |
| 20:05.50 | h4mster | (argh, that was completely uncomprehensible, right?) |
| 20:05.54 | star-trekio | is using debian linux safer than using supported redhat enterprise linux? |
| 20:05.58 | dondelelcaro | ludwig: mboxes shouldn't have line endings which are \r\n; they should all be converted to just \n... the new (alpha) version of dovecot fixes the \r\n issue, but it won't be released into stable until next stable |
| 20:06.02 | star-trekio | does debian support HP RAID arrays |
| 20:06.03 | star-trekio | ? |
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| 20:06.16 | kingsley | Is there an audio player which can select *discontinuous* parts of audio files? |
| 20:06.17 | areeves | note to self: do NOT use the mouse through the KVM with X, it does NOT work |
| 20:06.23 | dondelelcaro | ludwig: does that still happen? |
| 20:06.34 | zinx | areeves: i suspect that depends on the KVM |
| 20:06.40 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, I cannot say, since it did not happen all the time ... |
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| 20:07.14 | ludwig | dondelelcaro, I will keep a look at the logfiles ... |
| 20:07.17 | charzero | Why does 'man dpkg' tell me about --force-dpkg-reinstreq, but dpkg says option not understood? |
| 20:07.22 | dondelelcaro | hrm... well, I know that dovecot with maildir is stable, because I use it all the time here; it appears stable for the mbox users I have too, but I don't use that bit of it personally |
| 20:07.24 | star-trekio | the tortures of using computers are too many to enumerate |
| 20:07.30 | areeves | zinx: i know :P i have a very cheap-o one- I actually had this problem with it before like a year ago, but forgot the solution |
| 20:07.37 | star-trekio | and using redhat linux with java and mysql |
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| 20:07.41 | star-trekio | ah the fun |
| 20:07.45 | zinx | areeves: use synergy instead? :D |
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| 20:08.10 | areeves | zinx, i just have 4 mice on my desk |
| 20:08.11 | dondelelcaro | charzero: because it's --force-remove-reinstreq? |
| 20:08.30 | dondelelcaro | charzero: and you shouldn't be using htat option anyway. |
| 20:09.45 | charzero | dondelelcaro: yeah, sorry, i typed it wrong. but it doesn't take the option. |
| 20:10.13 | dondelelcaro | charzero: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 20:10.37 | charzero | dondelelcaro: when i do apt-get install <anything> it says that a package (that i installed with alien) needs to be reinstalled. |
| 20:10.48 | dondelelcaro | charzero: so reinstall it |
| 20:11.03 | charzero | dondelelcaro: I did. it installed fine. |
| 20:11.50 | dondelelcaro | charzero: so what's the problem? |
| 20:12.00 | charzero | dondelelcaro: I can't apt-get install anything now. |
| 20:12.08 | dondelelcaro | !tell charzero -about bat |
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| 20:12.19 | dondelelcaro | charzero: follow those instructions and give us the complete output |
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| 20:13.47 | fanfanlatulipe | hi all |
| 20:13.59 | h4mster | dev/console problem --> "The fix is to boot from a live or rescue CD" --> does that work with the debian installer (cd 1), and if so, how to do it? *still being ashamed of himself* |
| 20:14.25 | fanfanlatulipe | do you know what's the email address for abuse of freenode ? |
| 20:14.31 | dondelelcaro | h4mster: it means you were using udev before but are no longer using it |
| 20:14.50 | charzero | dondelelcaro: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1768 |
| 20:15.00 | ronin | fanfanlatulipe: #freenode would be your best bet |
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| 20:15.18 | fanfanlatulipe | ok thank ronin |
| 20:15.34 | dondelelcaro | actually, you can no longer join #freenode; |
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| 20:15.48 | ronin | dondelelcaro: really? ok in that case dont try that channel fanfanlatulipe |
| 20:15.48 | dondelelcaro | (although, it forwards to ##bookmark or some such) |
| 20:15.55 | abrotman | really? |
| 20:15.58 | dondelelcaro | yes... |
| 20:16.05 | charzero | dondelelcaro: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1768 |
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| 20:16.20 | charzero | oops. sorry for the double. |
| 20:16.33 | dondelelcaro | charzero: that's not the whole output... |
| 20:16.37 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: spring cleaning? |
| 20:16.47 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: no clue |
| 20:16.51 | abrotman | ok |
| 20:17.08 | dondelelcaro | AFAIK, there was no warning or anything about it... it just happened |
| 20:17.17 | charzero | dondelelcaro: thats the whole output of apt-cache policy ibm-db2mstw81 |
| 20:17.46 | dondelelcaro | charzero: read the factoid again, paying special attention to the first part. |
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| 20:18.40 | Jmax | can someone here pls ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb |
| 20:18.52 | Jmax | i think i broke something D: |
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| 20:19.20 | Vme | anyone seen with debian where you know the file exists but when you try to execute it, it gives you No such file or directory |
| 20:19.21 | Vme | ? |
| 20:19.36 | MOtheRus | hi |
| 20:19.39 | abrotman | what's the filename ? |
| 20:19.46 | Jmax | Vme: chmod +x filename |
| 20:19.58 | abrotman | no .. that's not the same error |
| 20:20.05 | Jmax | no? i thought it was :S |
| 20:20.14 | Jmax | anyone here have a box with X? |
| 20:20.17 | Vme | debian:/tmp# ls -l |
| 20:20.17 | Vme | total 17804 |
| 20:20.17 | Vme | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18203144 2002-03-09 19:47 test |
| 20:20.24 | Vme | debian:/tmp# ./test |
| 20:20.24 | Vme | -bash: ./test: No such file or directory |
| 20:20.33 | charzero | dondelelcaro: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1770 |
| 20:20.34 | Vme | its a binary file |
| 20:20.40 | Vme | that i just scp'd from another box |
| 20:20.43 | Vme | i know its good |
| 20:20.49 | Vme | and it runs on the other box |
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| 20:21.04 | Jmax | are you root? |
| 20:21.08 | Vme | yep |
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| 20:21.14 | Jmax | dunno |
| 20:21.17 | Vme | i know |
| 20:21.18 | Vme | its weird |
| 20:21.24 | zinx | Vme: file ./test |
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| 20:21.28 | Vme | the only difference |
| 20:21.35 | Vme | i'm going from a sun running solaris |
| 20:21.37 | abrotman | Vme: maybe a space? |
| 20:21.39 | Vme | to a sun running debian |
| 20:21.45 | zinx | well there you have it |
| 20:21.51 | zinx | they have different run-time linkers |
| 20:21.57 | abrotman | zinx: he didn't say sparc |
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| 20:22.06 | zinx | abrotman: they still have different run-time linkers |
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| 20:22.13 | zinx | debian uses ld-linux.so.2 |
| 20:22.17 | Jmax | lol opensores |
| 20:22.19 | abrotman | if he's running 32bit sarge on an opteron ? |
| 20:22.20 | zinx | more specificly, /lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
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| 20:22.24 | opensores | lol Jmax |
| 20:22.27 | Jmax | lol. |
| 20:22.27 | Vme | ok |
| 20:22.31 | Vme | so |
| 20:22.32 | Vme | can i fix? |
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| 20:22.38 | zinx | that is the "No such file or directory" being reported -- the run-time linker |
| 20:22.41 | protoloco | somebody has used SAKAI ???? an open source project |
| 20:22.43 | opensores | how can i play encrypted dvds with totem, it says i need libdvdcss but i cannot apt-get it |
| 20:22.51 | zinx | Vme: probably not without a recompile |
| 20:22.54 | abrotman | !tell opensores about marillat |
| 20:22.56 | zinx | Vme: at least, not easily |
| 20:23.03 | abrotman | will ldd work on /tmp/test ? |
| 20:23.03 | Vme | ouch |
| 20:23.04 | Vme | ok |
| 20:23.17 | Jmax | can someone here please: ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb |
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| 20:23.25 | zinx | Vme: there are probably a large number of other libraries that differ |
| 20:23.47 | charzero | dondelelcaro: Is there a way to tell apt that i don't want to reinstall it? |
| 20:24.06 | abrotman | Vme: can you `ldd /tmp/test` ? |
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| 20:24.34 | abrotman | though it may just barf |
| 20:24.47 | abrotman | Vme: what is the sun box running ? |
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| 20:25.47 | Vme | debian:/tmp# ldd /tmp/test |
| 20:25.47 | Vme | /usr/bin/ldd: line 1: /tmp/test: No such file or directory |
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| 20:26.19 | gcbirzan | Wrong libc version? |
| 20:26.24 | zinx | abrotman: when an ELF binary is run, it loads its libraries by letting a run-time linker run it.. this run-time linker's path is hard-coded, on linux it's /lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
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| 20:26.44 | abrotman | zinx: right .. but he could have been running 32bit sarge on a sun opteron |
| 20:26.45 | MOtheRus | ok, finally i've installed my audio drivers,but i don't hear anything |
| 20:26.50 | zinx | Vme: you can try /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /tmp/test |
| 20:26.54 | zinx | Vme: but it's not going to work :D |
| 20:26.55 | maddog666 | hey :) my system rebooted during apt-get libc6 install.. it wont boot again and I've trying to chroot to it. The problem is that I can't chroot cuz /bin/bash,/bin/all shells depends on libc6 and it is broken.. any ideas of what I could do? |
| 20:26.57 | jonas3 | I love debian ! |
| 20:27.03 | dondelelcaro | charzero: so dpkg -i /path/to/whatever/foo.deb; |
| 20:27.05 | T-REX001 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.05 | dpkg | methinks gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 20:27.09 | zinx | abrotman: .... and it still wouldn't work, because the run-time linkers are different |
| 20:27.16 | dondelelcaro | charzero: that will reinstall the package in question. |
| 20:27.16 | zinx | abrotman: this has *NOTHING* to do with architechture |
| 20:27.17 | T-REX001 | !microsoft |
| 20:27.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, microsoft is the soft conglomerate of stature that provides the food to billions of apathetic morons who want to sit on the asses of thier undoing so their minds can melt into the pixelized universe that is The Daily Show |
| 20:27.32 | zinx | abrotman: it is entirely to do with the OS / libc |
| 20:27.46 | dondelelcaro | T-REX001: please /msg the bot |
| 20:27.52 | protoloco | somebody has used SAKAI ???? an open source project |
| 20:27.59 | T-REX001 | dondelelcaro oh sorry ... ma bad |
| 20:28.04 | charzero | dondelelcaro: there is no .deb. it was installed with alien. |
| 20:28.18 | abrotman | zinx: if he's running 32bit sarge on a x86 box .. how is the libc not the same? |
| 20:28.23 | ludwig | bye |
| 20:28.30 | abrotman | (assuming the debian box is sarge 32bit) |
| 20:28.42 | zinx | abrotman: solaris doesn't use the same linker as debian... |
| 20:28.46 | zinx | abrotman: or same libc |
| 20:28.49 | lonewolff | hi, i wonder if anyone can help, im trying to get authenticated smtp to work with saslauthd, i have sasl working with pam and it authenticates using testsaslauthd, but i cant get postfix to even talk to the saslauthd for auth |
| 20:30.20 | abrotman | zinx: i said 32bit sarge .. a few times .. Sun does sell opteron boxes |
| 20:30.21 | maddog666 | is there any way I can chroot to a target that has a corrupted bash ? |
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| 20:30.23 | abrotman | zinx: i'm well aware a binary form a solaris box wouldn't work :) |
| 20:30.24 | zinx | abrotman: but he specificly said he's trying to run a solaris binary in debian |
| 20:30.24 | abrotman | zinx: i missed the solaris part |
| 20:30.25 | abrotman | zinx: my apologies |
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| 20:30.31 | abrotman | maddog666: use a different shell ? |
| 20:30.32 | maddog666 | abrotman: I got libc6 broken install (system freeze), so no shell I've tried really worked |
| 20:30.33 | h4mster | can I use the debian installer (cd 1) to get the MAKEDEV thing done? or do i have to set up a rescue cd somehow else? |
| 20:30.33 | abrotman | i imagine not :) |
| 20:30.47 | abrotman | h4mster: that wasn't for you |
| 20:31.01 | konfuzed | i hate qmail even if it is secure |
| 20:31.04 | h4mster | (sorry for repeating myself) |
| 20:31.14 | abrotman | konfuzed: it's not .. use something better |
| 20:31.22 | konfuzed | im locked in |
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| 20:31.27 | konfuzed | I prefer postgres |
| 20:31.32 | konfuzed | I prefer postfix |
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| 20:31.39 | Jmax | can someone explain http://rafb.net/paste/results/GJ6EfY89.html to me? |
| 20:31.42 | abrotman | locked in ? |
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| 20:32.21 | abrotman | Jmax: depmod ? |
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| 20:32.25 | abrotman | rather .. depmod -a |
| 20:32.28 | konfuzed | its already installed on the box in an integrated way and it belongs to a non-profit without a budget to replace it or pay anyone to replace it |
| 20:32.33 | Jmax | abrotman: ok |
| 20:32.33 | abrotman | hehe |
| 20:32.44 | Jmax | oh excellent |
| 20:32.45 | Jmax | thanks |
| 20:32.47 | konfuzed | so im locked into volunteering to generally look after it |
| 20:32.50 | xpato | are any problems exporting big directorys with nfs? |
| 20:32.54 | Lord_Athur | hi |
| 20:32.55 | xpato | 400Giga |
| 20:33.03 | konfuzed | perhaps its my GPL karma |
| 20:33.15 | abrotman | Jmax: work better? |
| 20:33.48 | _keroppi_ | If I have a bug report against a debian package, which only has to do with the package's dependencies, and not any code, should I report it to bugs.debian.org, or somewhere else? Basically I dmidecode 2.7 says it needs libc6 2.3.5, when it can easily use libc6 2.3.2, making it impossible to install on stable. |
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| 20:34.03 | _keroppi_ | Well, not impossible, but annoying, since you have to edit the deb file |
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| 20:34.28 | konfuzed | i just know that their weenie server is basically acting like a spam engine |
| 20:34.32 | debiankid | hiakoll |
| 20:34.37 | Jmax | abrotman: yup, how can i see what modules are already loaded? |
| 20:34.40 | juice` | is there any console-tool that will automatically download the list of proxy servers and use one of them to download some page ? |
| 20:34.40 | abrotman | _keroppi_: you could file a bug on it .. |
| 20:34.43 | abrotman | Jmax: lsmod |
| 20:34.46 | Jmax | thanks |
| 20:34.51 | loxley_ | konfuzed: i've been taking over a qmail install at my new work... puhh, i really prefer working with postfix.. |
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| 20:35.02 | juice` | i need to use different proxy servers, and im tired of manually editing .wgerc or chaning http_proxy parameter |
| 20:35.11 | _keroppi_ | abrotman: So filing bugs against problems with executables is the same as filing a bug about dependencies, and other package-only related stuff? |
| 20:35.30 | abrotman | _keroppi_: if you think the dependencies are wrong .. then you can file a bug on the package |
| 20:35.31 | Jmax | abrotman: thanks for your help, but that still didn't seem to get DRI working on my i810 :( |
| 20:35.39 | _keroppi_ | abrotman: Okay, thanks |
| 20:35.53 | flogiston | What rights should i have on the phpsysinfo?? |
| 20:36.00 | ldbl | i have one newbie question |
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| 20:36.05 | abrotman | Jmax: any errors ? |
| 20:36.12 | abrotman | ldbl: just ask |
| 20:36.15 | konfuzed | loxley_: it sure is better with postfix. perhaps you can remind me where/what file I can list domain names to drop all mail processing for |
| 20:36.17 | Jmax | abrotman: nope |
| 20:36.26 | vin` | juice`: tor/privoxy |
| 20:36.27 | Jmax | abrotman: except something interesting... |
| 20:36.28 | ldbl | how to search for some application in debian ? |
| 20:36.37 | debiankid | hey all im having a big trouble installing my debian workstation |
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| 20:36.45 | abrotman | ldbl: apt-cache search <term1> <term2> etc |
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| 20:36.58 | mensuun | morjes |
| 20:37.05 | MOtheRus | why i don't hear anything , my audio drivers are installed ! |
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| 20:37.20 | lpb-oberon | adduser blafasel audio?! |
| 20:37.24 | Jmax | abrotman: http://rafb.net/paste/results/TN8EaT20.html |
| 20:37.30 | ldbl | by some description of the application for exampe ICQ or IRC |
| 20:37.35 | konfuzed | imagine that #qmail exists , I wonder if they have a straightforward answer ;^) |
| 20:37.47 | amphi | debiankid: could you be more vague? |
| 20:37.52 | Rais | want to say hit for my 1st time in this channel |
| 20:37.52 | loxley_ | konfuzed: in qmail? |
| 20:37.54 | ldbl | i mean for apt-get |
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| 20:38.03 | MOtheRus | already in group audio |
| 20:38.03 | Rais | hi* |
| 20:38.06 | _keroppi_ | MOtheRus: apt-get install qtip |
| 20:38.09 | Jmax | ldbl: apt-cache search icq ; apt-cache search irc |
| 20:38.15 | Jmax | ldbl: apt-cache is part of apt-get |
| 20:38.22 | Jmax | ...kinda |
| 20:38.22 | shadfc | i cant seem to get amavisd-new to mark emails as spam. I can see the hits level for each in the logs, but it doesnt rewrite the subject or put the X-SPAM headers in. This is using Etch |
| 20:38.23 | lpb-oberon | then check your mixer settings |
| 20:38.33 | mensuun | how i instal demian netinstaller? :o |
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| 20:38.38 | ldbl | Jmax thaks :) |
| 20:38.53 | MOtheRus | lpb-oberon: mixer works |
| 20:39.04 | Haukkari | Does anyone know what licence netcat is under? |
| 20:39.06 | dondelelcaro | charzero: you use alien to create a .deb; use the .deb that you create to reinstall it. |
| 20:39.17 | MOtheRus | lpb-oberon: i can set audio level but i don't hear anything |
| 20:39.21 | *** part/#debian foo (n=foo@unaffiliated/foo) |
| 20:39.28 | lpb-oberon | main and pcm? |
| 20:39.40 | lpb-oberon | s/main/master/ |
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| 20:39.57 | MOtheRus | ? |
| 20:39.59 | shadfc | unmute? |
| 20:40.05 | aredhel | Haukkari, give credit where due |
| 20:40.06 | MOtheRus | no.. |
| 20:40.07 | lpb-oberon | check what dmesg says |
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| 20:40.22 | lpb-oberon | apt-get install gamix |
| 20:40.22 | Jmax | abrotman: could that mean my BIOS doesn't support DRI? |
| 20:40.27 | pego | hi i m looking for sort of ghost-server for restore/backup system(linux/windows) on a server easly |
| 20:40.39 | Haukkari | aredhel: that's the licence? |
| 20:40.45 | aredhel | Haukkari, thats it |
| 20:40.48 | jjazz | Haukkari: GPL |
| 20:40.48 | Haukkari | aredhel: ok, thanks |
| 20:40.54 | Haukkari | jjazz: that's GNU netcat |
| 20:40.58 | Haukkari | jjazz: I was asking about the original |
| 20:41.02 | lpb-oberon | bios dri?! |
| 20:41.11 | jjazz | Haukkari: that I don't know about. |
| 20:41.16 | aredhel | Haukkari, /usr/share/doc/netcat/copyright |
| 20:41.21 | Haukkari | aredhel: thanks |
| 20:41.21 | lpb-oberon | that xwindow dri?! |
| 20:41.31 | Jmax | Haukkari: apt-cache policy netcat? |
| 20:41.33 | loxley_ | pego: backuppc perhaps... the only one i've tried and used and saved my ass sometimes.. :) |
| 20:41.35 | ldbl | i have one question more , for example in gentoo with, rc-update del sshd default , you remove sshd for default runlever like runlevel 3 is it same way in debian ? |
| 20:41.37 | Jmax | Haukkari: or is it apt-cache show netcat? |
| 20:41.42 | Jmax | Haukkari: one of those two |
| 20:41.54 | Jmax | lpb-oberon: yes, DRI for Xorg |
| 20:42.24 | AlienX | anyone know why a webcam would only produce a grey image? I have the quickcam zoom and the pwc modules installed but gnomeeting, camorama and xawtv all only give me a grey picture. GQcam is green. |
| 20:42.29 | pego | loxley_: it's server side ? can boot on pxe ? |
| 20:42.45 | ircdevil | what is needed to get a wireless card working? kernel with appropriate driver as module, and ... ? |
| 20:43.08 | ircdevil | network card, that is |
| 20:43.13 | lpb-oberon | ldbl: man update-rc.d |
| 20:43.29 | AlienX | ircdevil, what kind of card do you have? |
| 20:43.29 | Maulkin | ldbl: we don't use rc-update. man update-rc.d |
| 20:43.30 | loxley_ | pego: ohumm, no i don't think so.. |
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| 20:44.45 | maddog666 | anyone has ever tried to manually install libc6? not compile, only install |
| 20:44.53 | ircdevil | AlienX: Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] (rev 01) |
| 20:45.13 | dondelelcaro | maddog666: it's not that difficult to do, but generally if libc6 is dead, you won't be able to run anything you can use to install it. |
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| 20:45.18 | ircdevil | AlienX: that is 802.11g |
| 20:45.26 | ldbl | lpb-oberon it's better that move or rename rc.script ;) |
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| 20:45.39 | maddog666 | dondelelcaro: only my live cd :-) which I can't use to chroot because libc6 of chroot folder is broken |
| 20:45.44 | debiankid | hey folk im having a big trouble installing my newly computer / he is getting frozzen |
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| 20:45.48 | pego | loxley_: its for data not for install from scrtch right ? |
| 20:45.53 | AlienX | ircdevil, you may need the wireless-tools package (i think that's what it's called). |
| 20:45.54 | maddog666 | dondelelcaro: I have the deb unpacked on my livecd tmp folder, but it's not a simple replace |
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| 20:46.05 | ircdevil | AlienX: oki |
| 20:46.20 | [Bart] | !purge |
| 20:46.20 | dpkg | i heard purge is to complete wipe away a package, including its config files. Use apt-get remove --purge [package]..or if you already removed package with apt-get remove, and forgot config files you can use 'dpkg -P <package>' to remove configs. To purge all config files of all removed packages: aptitude purge $(aptitude search '~c') |
| 20:46.33 | debiankid | debian computer / when i finish installing the debian base system he start the grub loader but when apparently is going to start the services he ,...... |
| 20:46.50 | loxley_ | pego: http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ might be what you need |
| 20:46.56 | AlienX | !wireless |
| 20:46.56 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux |
| 20:46.59 | debiankid | ask me ENTER RUNLEVEL and stay off what can be that ? this is teh fisrt time i c this |
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| 20:47.21 | pego | loxley_: prefered pxe boot server but ... |
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| 20:47.41 | Maulkin | debiankid: Erm... sorry, I really don't understand you. |
| 20:47.57 | lpb-oberon | ldbl: what do you mean? |
| 20:48.01 | Haukkari | Isn't Debian GNU/Linux the only Linux distro approved by the FSF/GNU-dudes/Stallman? |
| 20:48.02 | debiankid | Maulkin well im installing a deban computer from the beguinning |
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| 20:48.07 | jjazz | debiankid: What is your native language? There are language-specific support channels available. |
| 20:48.33 | debiankid | jjazz on debian spanish no1 answer |
| 20:48.42 | Maulkin | Haukkari: No. It's one only one approved by us though :) |
| 20:48.57 | Haukkari | Maulkin: I remember reading somewhere that it was.. |
| 20:49.10 | jjazz | debiankid: You still might have better luck there than here. |
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| 20:49.15 | Maulkin | Haukkari: Well, it's news to me :) |
| 20:49.25 | lpb-oberon | ldbl: you could move the symlink S20ssh to _S20ssh |
| 20:49.32 | abrotman | wtf did max go |
| 20:49.35 | abrotman | err jmax |
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| 20:50.04 | Fionn | I upgraded firefox to 1.5.0.1 and it uses a particularly ugly and annoyingly huge font for its UI now. Does anyone of you have an idea how I can change that? |
| 20:50.31 | Fionn | (all other apps seem to be unaffected) |
| 20:50.34 | h4mster | Fionn: try about:config |
| 20:50.41 | lpb-oberon | or better K20ssh |
| 20:50.48 | h4mster | (in address line of firefox) |
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| 20:51.16 | clsk | Is it possible to upgrade the kernel with apt-get upgrade? I'm running version 2.6.12-1-386 and apt-get upgrade kernel won't upgrade it nor apt-get update. |
| 20:51.26 | debiankid | Maulkin yesss i fout out !!! heheheeh |
| 20:51.27 | debiankid | i got finally my system loading :) me happy |
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| 20:52.05 | bucky | Haukkari, not anymore.. RMS has successfully cloned himself and has a fully Gnu compliant distro now https://www.ututo.org/www/images/85.jpg |
| 20:52.12 | Maulkin | ok...... |
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| 20:52.18 | Usiu | Somekind of bug in debian... maybe with libswt ??? Cause when I run eclipse it has a problem with finish button doesnt work.. and I cant create a project.. the same with eclipse from tar.gz archive.. |
| 20:52.27 | Fionn | h4mster: I did but all settings that contain the string "font" seem to be related to page display |
| 20:52.34 | lpb-oberon | ldbl: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s-sysvinit |
| 20:52.36 | Haukkari | bucky: but it was? |
| 20:52.36 | Maulkin | clsk: apt-get install it. |
| 20:53.01 | Maulkin | clsk: it won't upgrade unless it's an upgrade to that kernel version |
| 20:53.04 | clsk | ok |
| 20:53.09 | zinosat | is there a way to find out which glyphs are contained in a ttf file? (I'd like to get a list of unicode coords without having to open the file with fontforge and find out "by hand") |
| 20:53.15 | abrotman | clsk: that is the version in etch |
| 20:53.16 | bucky | Haukkari, yep |
| 20:53.38 | clsk | thanks, I'll try that once upgrade of other packages is done. |
| 20:53.54 | Haukkari | bucky: any source for this? |
| 20:54.08 | bucky | Haukkari, there are only two gnu compliant distros now.. ututo and another one based on FC.. can't remember the name now |
| 20:55.18 | lpb-oberon | ldbl: K only in runlevel 3 |
| 20:55.20 | Rais | i did "apt-get remove kernel-image-2.4.27" to remove my old kernel. is that all i need to do ? I tried to reboot. It boot up successfully |
| 20:56.00 | ldbl | lpb-oberon i read the man page it's works fine |
| 20:56.13 | h4mster | Fionn: google told me about "userChrome.css" |
| 20:56.14 | ldbl | like a charm thanks a lot |
| 20:56.16 | shadfc | anyone know why amavisd-new (from etch) wont mark emails (with headers or subject rewrite)? tag level is -9999.9 |
| 20:56.21 | lpb-oberon | np:) |
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| 20:56.45 | h4mster | Fionn: should be somewhere in the firefox directories |
| 20:56.57 | h4mster | (haven't tried it myself) |
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| 20:57.38 | ldbl | it's allways some difference when you try some other disto , some specific disto things |
| 20:57.49 | Fionn | h4mster: thanks, I'll look in to this |
| 20:58.35 | h4mster | Fionn: np, hope it helps :) |
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| 21:00.03 | pego | anyoneelse know a good partition/disk image backup server can be boot on PXE for installing box |
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| 21:02.40 | becks` | hi, there is stcp/rtcp for testing tcp.. is there an equivalent command for udp? |
| 21:02.43 | Peterken | Good evening, I'm trying to install belpic for debian sarge stable, but can't find an package server. Can someone help me? |
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| 21:03.27 | Maulkin | Peterken: Try running apt-setup |
| 21:03.38 | De_Mon | why doesn't debootstrap have a symlink for stable? |
| 21:03.42 | abrotman | how does --delete differ from --delete-after in rsync ? |
| 21:03.44 | Peterken | I added so much more, but it failes |
| 21:03.49 | Peterken | I find the .deb files on the net |
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| 21:04.16 | Peterken | but he always complaint because other packages are not the version he wants |
| 21:04.20 | abrotman | nevermind |
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| 21:04.47 | Maulkin | Peterken: Erm... you'll need to contact whoever distributes that package then. If it's not in the Debian archive, we can't support it. |
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| 21:05.08 | De_Mon | --delete deletes files that don't exist and --delete-after deletes old files after a new one is received (for anyone else that wants to know) |
| 21:05.28 | abrotman | De_Mon: wait .. that doesn't make sense |
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| 21:05.48 | Fionn | h4mster: unfortunately ff seems be totally unaffected by anything I write into that file - but it was a really promising idea ;-) |
| 21:05.52 | abrotman | De_Mon: delete-after deletes files that don't exist on the sender .. after the transfer is complete .. no ? |
| 21:06.14 | De_Mon | abrotman I don't think so, it only deletes files that it's downloaded a new one of |
| 21:06.14 | abrotman | as opposed to --delete which currently does bfore the transfer(so says the man pagE) |
| 21:06.37 | De_Mon | --delete just deletes files that don't exist on the sender, the other two are for files that ARE on the sender |
| 21:06.43 | ldbl | bye to all |
| 21:06.49 | Peterken | they should be there, normally http://packages.debian.org/belpic/ but is down, on pdo.debian.net the package is not available |
| 21:06.50 | abrotman | De_Mon: ah .. so i guess i want --delete |
| 21:06.53 | cisse | abrotman: deleting before is the default behavior, so i believe so |
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| 21:08.06 | De_Mon | abrotman probably |
| 21:08.26 | abrotman | i don't want extra files on the reciever .. it's for a copy of a harddrive nightly |
| 21:08.44 | cisse | yeah that's just --delete |
| 21:08.57 | Maulkin | Peterken: It appears that belpic isn't in Sarge |
| 21:08.59 | cisse | why not use rdiff ? |
| 21:09.04 | abrotman | to copy? |
| 21:09.16 | Peterken | :( that's not fun |
| 21:09.17 | cisse | for your nightly backup |
| 21:09.17 | Peterken | lol |
| 21:09.22 | bucky | Haukkari, i believe the one besides ututo is called blag linux http://www.blagblagblag.org/ |
| 21:09.24 | Maulkin | Peterken: Try www.backports.org |
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| 21:09.51 | abrotman | cisse: i'm not sure it does what i want .. |
| 21:10.22 | Peterken | yes Maulkin, but only for alpha, powerpc & sparc over there :( |
| 21:10.35 | De_Mon | abrotman -n will tell you what it's doing, you can test all you want |
| 21:10.42 | cisse | abrotman: ah well i moved my rsync backups to rdiff 6 months or so ago, been very happy |
| 21:10.42 | De_Mon | err, what it *would* do |
| 21:10.43 | Maulkin | Peterken: hold on then... |
| 21:10.50 | abrotman | cisse: i'm also not sure how much i trust diff with binary stuffs .. i know it says it works .. but i'd rather not tempt fate :) |
| 21:10.56 | cisse | lol |
| 21:11.10 | cisse | touche |
| 21:11.10 | abrotman | cisse: i mean .. these are LOTS of binary files .. |
| 21:11.17 | De_Mon | cisse those would be considered incrimental wouldnt they? |
| 21:11.26 | Haukkari | bucky: ok, thanks |
| 21:11.46 | Peterken | yeah, i think i have no other choise :-) thanks for your answers |
| 21:11.48 | cisse | De_Mon: yep |
| 21:12.40 | bucky | Haukkari, those are the two distros now endorsed by the FSF |
| 21:12.58 | De_Mon | abrotman you mirroring the machine or backing it up(why not use tar) |
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| 21:13.38 | abrotman | De_Mon: i'd prefer to just be able to grab the drive .. pop into another linux box with a sata controller and go .. |
| 21:13.49 | De_Mon | nod |
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| 21:15.54 | star-trekio | working in a telcom is very scary |
| 21:16.24 | abrotman | star-trekio: just use your communicator! |
| 21:18.10 | bucky | Haukkari, FSF actually hosts ututo on their ftp site ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu+linux-distros/ututo-e |
| 21:18.19 | Haukkari | cool |
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| 21:18.35 | Maulkin | Peterken: Ok, I'll build you a backport |
| 21:18.41 | Maulkin | Peterken: I assume you want i386? |
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| 21:18.50 | abrotman | !tell root____2 about root |
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| 21:21.11 | Peterken | yes Maulkin |
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| 21:22.43 | grumbel | can anybody recomment a way to convert DVD-RAM to DVD-R (filesystem and filenames are different, so just copying won't work) |
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| 21:25.58 | star-trekio | well |
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| 21:26.00 | RolandU | hi all! I have a problem getting alsa to work properly. alsa detects 3 sound cards (onboard, tv-card and the one i want) - if I run alsaconf, everything is fine - hoever, after rebooting it seems to do some autodetection and only starts the two i don't want. So I have to run alsaconf again each session. Any ideas how to solve this? |
| 21:26.09 | brianJP | i instaled ispell, aspell, myspell none of those worked so far... |
| 21:26.24 | bbrazil | RolandU: see if you need some module - check output of lsmod |
| 21:26.26 | star-trekio | I work in a telcom with redhat and the autofs wont work |
| 21:26.30 | star-trekio | damn it to hell |
| 21:26.40 | abrotman | #redhat ? |
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| 21:27.02 | bbrazil | RolandU: if you find that is the case, add the module to /etc/modules |
| 21:27.28 | RolandU | bbrazil, modules for all cards are loaded. |
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| 21:27.41 | bbrazil | RolandU: before alsaconf runs? |
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| 21:28.23 | RolandU | bbrazil, yes - kmix shows two devices now, the onboard and the tv-card. if I run alsaconf and select my 'real' sound card, kmix can only see that one and only that one works. |
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| 21:29.51 | bbrazil | RolandU: I don't know alsa, maybe try creating an init script for it? |
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| 21:30.20 | mushrooomprince | hello #debian, |
| 21:30.40 | devnull | how can i only get to show up ipnumers (not other stuff, so no ports , protocols etc.) using netstat or is that impossible? |
| 21:31.07 | hacim | devnull: netstat has a flag that allows you to do that |
| 21:31.22 | hacim | devnull: check the man page for -n |
| 21:31.22 | cahoot | RolandU: what does /proc/asound/cards say? |
| 21:31.25 | devnull | yes -n but that also shows the connection type |
| 21:31.37 | devnull | protocol and socket |
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| 21:32.24 | devnull | i only want the ip to show so i can do uniq and thus show users at one time |
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| 21:32.41 | RolandU | cahoot, it shows the two I don't want. |
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| 21:34.02 | cahoot | RolandU: and still the 'wanted' cards module is loaded? |
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| 21:35.02 | RolandU | cahoot, the module is always loaded my modconf |
| 21:35.30 | cahoot | RolandU: checked with lsmod to make sure? |
| 21:36.53 | RolandU | lsmod says: emu10k1_gp - 3648 - 0 || snd_emu10k1 - 98312 - 1 |
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| 21:37.10 | RolandU | and emu10k1 is my sb-live-1024 |
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| 21:38.11 | cahoot | emu10k1_gp - that's a module name? doesn't look like alsa RolandU |
| 21:38.11 | bemor | Hi |
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| 21:38.42 | devnull | hacim: i looked at man netstat but all i could find is numeric-host and ports etc. but that does not solve my problem, i am not that good in shell scripting tc. could you help me further? |
| 21:38.47 | RolandU | cahoot, what do alsa-modules look like? |
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| 21:39.03 | cahoot | RolandU: they have snd- prefix |
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| 21:39.40 | shadfc | where can i find some documentation on the new config format for amavisd-new in Etch? Its split into a bunch of files instead of one amavisd.conf now |
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| 21:39.51 | RolandU | cahoot, snd_emu10k1 is loaded as well |
| 21:40.03 | hacim | devnull: what exactly are you looking for? |
| 21:40.08 | petemc | shadfc: tried /usr/share/doc/amavisd-new/ |
| 21:40.29 | cahoot | RolandU: yes - but if you load both oss and alsa nothing will work wrt sound |
| 21:40.49 | RolandU | cahoot, isn't the one needed for the other? |
| 21:40.50 | bemor | I have a strange problem on a debian sarge machine, it runs fine for about a day and then it gets extremly slow, i can´t seem to find why. How can i check? (top takes ages to start, and displays a load of about 0.5, and cpu is 99%idle, sometimes all counters are at 0%, and it does not refresh) |
| 21:41.11 | cahoot | RolandU: no they are mtutally exclusive |
| 21:41.20 | cahoot | mutually |
| 21:41.23 | bemor | i have free ram enough |
| 21:41.30 | devnull | i want to show up a message with how many users are currently connected to the webserver, i tought netstat could do the trick but it also shows the socket behind the ip, like ip:socket so netstat -n -p TCP | uniq does count multiple lines for ine user |
| 21:41.56 | devnull | s/ine/uniq |
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| 21:43.53 | pureone | netstat -tpn then use some perl or sed to change up the output |
| 21:43.58 | dataw0lf | or cut |
| 21:44.05 | pureone | or cut |
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| 21:44.38 | RolandU | cahoot, how can I turn that off? |
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| 21:46.32 | mhall | devnull: yeah this should be h4x0r1z3ab13 |
| 21:47.09 | cahoot | RolandU: make sure only 'snd-' prefixed modules get loaded |
| 21:47.29 | cahoot | RolandU: as far as sound goes |
| 21:47.44 | De_Mon | heh, note to self: ttyS0 will respawn too fast if it doesnt exist |
| 21:48.01 | paulswm | mhall si teh l337 h4xx0r |
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| 21:49.11 | streuner | haha |
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| 21:50.15 | devnull | mhall: you must be have a small dick.. |
| 21:50.22 | streuner | haha |
| 21:50.41 | devnull | np |
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| 21:51.20 | RolandU | cahoot, and after that I can restart the sound-server and it should work? |
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| 21:51.37 | GodKilla- | hey all |
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| 21:51.49 | GodKilla- | hwo to find out hte irq number of my devices? |
| 21:51.56 | GodKilla- | bios doesnt display them |
| 21:52.04 | azeem | GodKilla-: /proc/interrupts I think |
| 21:52.04 | GodKilla- | and /proc/interupts doesnt exist |
| 21:52.07 | streuner | cat /proc/interrupts? |
| 21:52.08 | azeem | heh |
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| 21:52.19 | GodKilla- | yea there nothing alike |
| 21:52.21 | azeem | GodKilla-: then look for something similar in /sys |
| 21:52.29 | streuner | GodKilla-: what kernel do you have? |
| 21:52.33 | protoloco | mysql:x:60:60:mysql:/var/lib/mysql:/bin/false <-- somebody can tell me the, description of each ":" |
| 21:52.41 | streuner | GodKilla-: cat /proc/version ;-) |
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| 21:53.30 | azeem | protoloco: man 5 passwd |
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| 21:54.33 | loukaic | Hi all.does anyone has a similar problem like this?My problem is Mozilla will report it is connecting to a url but will never actually load anything, just times out. Ping works ok all of the time. Traceroute too. Konqueror has no trouble at all. |
| 21:54.47 | streuner | GodKilla-: if cat /proc/version doesn't work, what does 'uname -a' say? |
| 21:54.49 | loukaic | any help please? |
| 21:54.57 | _kaiser_ | hello, I have a permissions question. I have setgid bit on a directory so that every file that is created in that directory will have the same group, is there a way I can guarantee that every file in that directory is writable by the group when created? |
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| 21:55.58 | abrotman | !moo |
| 21:55.58 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 21:56.22 | Peterken | lol |
| 21:56.48 | RolandU | bbrazil, loading one module less now. however the situation did not change at all. |
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| 21:57.55 | blakkino | hi |
| 21:57.56 | blakkino | :) |
| 21:58.25 | blakkino | does somebody remember the solution for the "XKB problem" that show a msg at every gnome startup? |
| 21:58.30 | De_Mon | mooo |
| 21:58.34 | blakkino | (i'm running 3.1 stable) |
| 21:59.22 | loukaic | Mozilla will report it is connecting to a url but will never actually load anything,Ping works ok all of the time. Traceroute too. Konqueror has no trouble at all.Any ideas what's going on? |
| 21:59.44 | blakkino | loukaic, mozilla bug |
| 21:59.45 | blakkino | :) |
| 22:00.00 | SerajewelKS | loukaic: do you have a proxy set? |
| 22:00.01 | blakkino | (or maybe u forgot to remove the proxy from mozilla options?) |
| 22:00.03 | lex | loukaic, or proxy missconfiguration in mozilla |
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| 22:00.05 | blakkino | :) |
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| 22:00.30 | loukaic | no i don't have a proxy but let me check quicly the setting i haven't checked that |
| 22:00.56 | SerajewelKS | loukaic: also run ethereal and verify that something is happening |
| 22:01.26 | blakkino | :9 |
| 22:01.29 | loukaic | the other problem i've got is if i try to apt-get update it doens't connect to the site(e.g. ftp.debian.org) unless i ping it first |
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| 22:01.36 | blakkino | nobody has meet the problem about XKB? |
| 22:01.37 | blakkino | :\ |
| 22:01.40 | loukaic | thanks Serajewelks i'll try it |
| 22:01.43 | SerajewelKS | loukaic: again, ethereal |
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| 22:01.58 | debiankid | hi again how can i list the unmounted partitions on debian ? |
| 22:02.14 | SerajewelKS | debiankid: cat /proc/partitions |
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| 22:02.30 | debiankid | yes but there i cannot view the name of the partition |
| 22:02.38 | loukaic | For the proxy setting is mozilla I've got "Direct connection to the internet" so i don't think that is the problem |
| 22:02.53 | mrverbose | any idea what i need to speak v92/v90 to a v92 capable modem? |
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| 22:02.58 | SerajewelKS | debiankid: because they don't have names |
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| 22:03.19 | debiankid | SerajewelKS how can i view for example i ahve 1 partition unmounted |
| 22:03.24 | mrverbose | i have to use a common euro-isdn-based device whatever there is |
| 22:03.28 | debiankid | how can i vieew that partition ? |
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| 22:03.40 | SerajewelKS | debiankid: you mean mount it? |
| 22:03.46 | debiankid | when i type cfdisk -Ps /dev/hda he give me back an error |
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| 22:04.03 | mrverbose | using a modem is not possible, modem <-> modem communication is limited to 33,6k instead of 56k |
| 22:04.23 | debiankid | he sayr fatal error : bad logical partition 9: enlarged logical partitions overlap |
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| 22:04.33 | debiankid | what is that? |
| 22:04.35 | SerajewelKS | debiankid: your partition table is borked |
| 22:04.42 | debiankid | borked? |
| 22:04.51 | SerajewelKS | debiankid: broken, corrupt, malforked |
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| 22:04.56 | debiankid | ophh |
| 22:04.59 | SerajewelKS | malformed too |
| 22:05.00 | debiankid | them what i have to do? |
| 22:05.08 | debiankid | to fix it |
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| 22:05.25 | azeem | debiankid: did you play around with partitions? |
| 22:05.26 | h4mster | !tell debiankid about fdisk |
| 22:05.32 | h4mster | ^ |
| 22:05.36 | debiankid | azeem welll yes |
| 22:06.05 | debiankid | azeem i had a dificult trouble to install the groub loader on my computer |
| 22:06.25 | debiankid | heheh done |
| 22:06.28 | azeem | that shouldn't require to edit partitions |
| 22:06.33 | RolandU | alsaconf finds my soundcard, but after reboot it forgets it and only loads the onboard card. anyone know this behaviour? |
| 22:06.43 | mango | hi. I am trying to add users on my system.the process of creating a user is fine, but when I try to connect using the new loggin/username, I get an error as such bash: /home/username/.bashrc: Permission denied. I checked the home directory, the username home directory exist and the permissions are set properly. I do not know what to do next. help please. |
| 22:06.47 | debiankid | y tiped fdisk -l /dev/hda hehehe |
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| 22:06.56 | mango | By the way i am running debian 3.1 |
| 22:07.10 | debiankid | now the trouble is how to mount the partition |
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| 22:07.49 | h4mster | debiankid: what filesystem is it? |
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| 22:08.45 | _eLMo_ | mango: try 'chown -r <user>:<group /home/<user> |
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| 22:08.48 | _eLMo_ | ' |
| 22:09.04 | SerajewelKS | _eLMo_: chown -R |
| 22:09.12 | _eLMo_ | mango: you heard SerajewelKS :) |
| 22:09.17 | _eLMo_ | SerajewelKS: ;) |
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| 22:09.39 | inigo | hi hi |
| 22:09.53 | br1_ | so I was look at my quite fresh Debian 3.1 installation, peeking inside the initrd image, and found myself wondering .. does it actually do anything useful ? .. mine doesn't require it to do anything, and I'm sure there are situations where you need it, but could it be the situation that mine is not doing anything worth talking about = |
| 22:10.31 | SerajewelKS | br1_: it contains things like IDE and filesystem drivers that the kernel needs to boot |
| 22:10.44 | stew | br1_: without it you wouldn't be able to mount your root filesystem since you are loading the disk controller and filesystem drivers from the initrd |
| 22:10.55 | loukaic | SerajewelKS I'm running ethereal but i don't have a clue what to look for. I've set it to capture data from my ethernet interface. Do I look for a SYN flag set to 1 when i try to connect to a site? |
| 22:11.22 | SerajewelKS | loukaic: look for anything out of the ordinary |
| 22:11.49 | RolandU | is there something like lspci or lsusb for scsi as well? |
| 22:11.59 | br1_ | SerajewelKS and stew, okay, that's nice, but how ? .. I couldn't find out how /linuxrc in the image makes other things run other than writing and reading some file in proc .. any docs on this somewhere ? (probably should have looked into that earlier) |
| 22:12.18 | SerajewelKS | br1_: look for .ko files |
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| 22:12.27 | mango | _elMo_: I am getting still the same error message. As I said the permissions are fine!!??.... |
| 22:12.36 | debiankid | well now how can i view the active partitions? |
| 22:12.37 | SerajewelKS | !ep mango |
| 22:12.37 | dpkg | mango: Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:13.11 | br1_ | SerajewelKS: sure, but do those kernel modules get loaded ? .. I cant see how modprobe comes into play by looking at /linuxrc .. |
| 22:13.26 | SerajewelKS | br1_: maybe it doesn't look at linuxrc? |
| 22:13.36 | _eLMo_ | mango: If the permissions were fine, you would be able to acces the file |
| 22:13.50 | madclicker | [fglrx] Kernel AGP support doesn't provide agplock functionality. What does this mean? |
| 22:14.11 | br1_ | SerajewelKS: could be, but http://www.cpqlinux.com/dig-initrd.html says otherwise (though that could of course be bad info) .. |
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| 22:14.29 | _eLMo_ | mango: can you give me the output of this line : "ls -alh ~ | grep bashrc" |
| 22:14.32 | SerajewelKS | br1_: i dunno how it works, but remove the initrd and reboot. not fun |
| 22:14.42 | mango | dpkg: don't get affended. I did not mean to anyone. |
| 22:14.48 | abrotman | dpkg: what are you |
| 22:14.48 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 22:15.03 | br1_ | SerajewelKS: hehe, I actually did that once, but I wont do it again .. but how about http://lxr.linux.no/source/Documentation/early-userspace/README#L125 ? |
| 22:15.07 | _eLMo_ | mango: dpkg is a bot |
| 22:15.23 | SerajewelKS | br1_: i don't know.. don't care. but initrd exists for a reason. |
| 22:15.38 | br1_ | SerajewelKS: sure, guy .. |
| 22:15.53 | Maulkin | Peterken: Erm... I've just broken something. Won't be able to do that backport I'm afraid. |
| 22:16.22 | Maulkin | NB: rm -rf /chroots/sarge while /home is mounted at /chroots/sarge/home is NOT-A-GOOD-THING(tm) |
| 22:16.50 | mango | _eLMo_: Thanks man. the out put form the fhome directory of that user is -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 507 2006-02-05 21:57 .bashrc |
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| 22:17.36 | Peterken | Maulkin, no problem. Thanks for trying, i appriciate it |
| 22:17.38 | _eLMo_ | mango: 23:12 < mango> _elMo_: I am getting still the same error message. As I said the permissions are fine!!??.... |
| 22:17.48 | _eLMo_ | mango: just a quote ;) |
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| 22:18.28 | mert | Hi |
| 22:18.41 | mert | Kann mir bitte jemand helfen |
| 22:18.46 | mango | _eLMo: do you mean the the permisions are wrong? |
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| 22:18.57 | _eLMo_ | mango: yes, they were ;) |
| 22:18.57 | streuner | mert: english please |
| 22:18.57 | john_c | i got a strange problem since today.. i am tring to run redir in background.. i add the & at the end.. everything is ok.. when i exit the shell the program dies.. why is that ? |
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| 22:19.16 | _eLMo_ | mango: the command I gave you, was with a parameter -R, wich does Recursive, and would have corrected the error |
| 22:19.18 | streuner | !de |
| 22:19.18 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
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| 22:19.30 | LoKo3 | !gentoo |
| 22:19.30 | dpkg | somebody said gentoo was a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 22:19.34 | loukaic | SerajewelKS I get this strange ip address for www.google.co.uk (ip.addr eq <myipaddress> and ip.addr eq 1.0.0.0(www.google.co.uk)) and (tcp.port eq 32874 and tcp.port eq 80). Is the DNS different for each browser e.g. konqueror/mozilla? |
| 22:19.38 | LoKo3 | !slackware |
| 22:19.38 | dpkg | hmm... slackware is a distribution made by Patrick. See ##slackware |
| 22:19.45 | LoKo3 | !openbsd |
| 22:19.45 | dpkg | [openbsd] a secure Unix-like operating system (www.openbsd.org), forked from NetBSD, with emphasis on security and portability. Led by Theo de Raadt, a person nearly as beloved as Dan Bernstein. One remote hole in the default install in over 8 years. |
| 22:19.46 | br1_ | john_c: the program running in the background is a child of your shell process, and will be stopped if the parent is stopped .. check "screen" or "nohup" .. |
| 22:20.06 | abrotman | LoKo3: MSG THE BOT |
| 22:20.09 | mango | _eLMo_: I used that option -R. I will double check again |
| 22:20.16 | john_c | br1_: yea.. but why is it happing only since today.. |
| 22:20.26 | Knorrie | pbuilder suddenly starts complaining like: W: /.pbuilderrc does not exist but i haven't changed anything I know... |
| 22:20.35 | stew | br1_: iirc sbin/init is the thing that does all the real work |
| 22:20.36 | _eLMo_ | Who is the bot manager ? I have an addition for the definition of Gentoo |
| 22:20.40 | Knorrie | i have a .pbuilderrc in my home dir |
| 22:20.44 | abrotman | jonas3: MSG THE BOT |
| 22:20.55 | Knorrie | seems pbuilder can't find it anymore |
| 22:21.02 | abrotman | _eLMo_: like what? |
| 22:21.03 | Knorrie | suddenly |
| 22:21.06 | jadewolf | in apt/sources.lst what is that line for most resent released items, isn't it testing? and does testing not have everything in it? can I put stable in there also? |
| 22:21.23 | _eLMo_ | abrotman: Gentoo is also know as Gentoy :P |
| 22:21.31 | abrotman | uhm .. |
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| 22:21.50 | br1_ | john_c: okay, then I wouldn't know .. programs can be made to disconnect automatically (daemon mode), but if your program suddenly stopped doing that .. don't know |
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| 22:22.40 | dadexter | anyone using lighttpd here? |
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| 22:23.05 | azeem | tarzeau: does gnustep have a browser? If so, is it based on mozilla or khtml? |
| 22:23.20 | br1_ | stew: well, sure .. init does all the fancy stuff starting from /etc/inittab, and that works nicely .. woody didn't have an initrd, but it can be useful, and I'm sure it is on many installations, but I am wondering what it does on mine .. my /linuxrc (in initrd) is quite small, and I can't spot where it starts modprobe or other useful programs .. |
| 22:23.20 | pm_ | why every time that i restart my network my resolv.conf is changed? i have a vpnc installed, so i need leave the nameserver of the vpn there, and every time that i restart my network i lost it from the resolv.conf |
| 22:23.30 | john_c | br1_ok, nohup worked... it was a big wonder because it worked perfectly till today... strange thing.. i am the only one that has access to that box.. anyway thanx a lot for the typo |
| 22:23.48 | streuner | pm_: dhcp |
| 22:24.04 | streuner | pm_: dhcp clients usually 'alter' resolv.conf... |
| 22:24.05 | bartden | howcome i cant install kde 3.5.1 , i always keep gettin a failure , The following packages have unmet dependencies:, and the a list of packages and at the end i get E: Broken packages, i tried to install kde using following cmd, apt-get install kde |
| 22:24.15 | pm_ | streuner i need it. what can i do? |
| 22:24.18 | mhall | bartden: try kdebase |
| 22:24.24 | mhall | bartden: and where are you installing it from |
| 22:24.25 | madclicker | need help with ati fglrx and etch on x86. Can anyone help a brother? |
| 22:24.26 | azeem | pm_: you can tell it to use your own |
| 22:24.30 | mhall | bartden: and onto which version of debian |
| 22:24.33 | azeem | pm_: check the config file |
| 22:24.36 | mango | _eLMo_: sorry, I gave you the wrong answer. I gave you the out put of root home directory not the user (~) cause I used the cammand with root access. The correct answer is: -rw-r--r-- 1 test test 1.8K 2006-02-08 21:56 .bashrc... |
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| 22:24.52 | streuner | pm:. well, say to dhcp config 'Just use this DNS server'? |
| 22:24.55 | DirkGently | dadexter: is lighttpd low memory/disk space by definition? I have a friend who wants an alternative to Apache to run on a control PC for remote management |
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| 22:24.56 | pm_ | azeem i can tell to the dhcp or to the vnpc? |
| 22:25.05 | azeem | dhcp |
| 22:25.06 | br1_ | john_c: sure, man .. and I quite recommend screen for that sort of thing, it works really well when you just need a virtual console to just "live" .. |
| 22:25.11 | pm_ | hmm |
| 22:25.14 | pm_ | let me see |
| 22:25.33 | bartden | mhall im installing it from http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0, kdebase gives same problem only different depencies, how can i find out witch version of debian i have |
| 22:25.35 | stew | br1_: yes, i thought sbin/init did the modprobbing |
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| 22:25.50 | _eLMo_ | mango: tried making the file rwxr-x-r-- ? |
| 22:25.51 | dadexter | DirkGently: I dunno, I can't get it to work |
| 22:25.55 | mhall | bartden: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 22:26.03 | mhall | bartden: /exec -o cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:26.05 | _eLMo_ | mango: maybe it tries to write to .bashrc (although I can't imagine) |
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| 22:26.24 | _eLMo_ | mango: or maybe sourcing is the same as executing, and not reading |
| 22:26.37 | _eLMo_ | mango: if you make it chmod 7 you will know for sure |
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| 22:26.47 | _eLMo_ | mango: if it still doesn't work, them something is very wrong |
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| 22:26.59 | diesel | !greenhouse |
| 22:26.59 | dpkg | Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Debian! |
| 22:27.01 | shart000 | tomcat5 question: which file do I edit to set Environment Variables ? |
| 22:27.05 | pm_ | azeem you mean that i can set a dns server ip inside the dhcp config file so dhcp will not alter my resolv.conf? |
| 22:27.11 | diesel | !dpkg greenhouse |
| 22:27.11 | dpkg | Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Debian! |
| 22:27.11 | bartden | mhall its version 3.1 |
| 22:27.18 | _eLMo_ | mango: i'm off to sleep, goodnight ;) |
| 22:27.41 | john_c | another question, how can i dump or see pkgs that are droped by iptables ? |
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| 22:27.59 | Silent_al | !redhouse |
| 22:28.03 | Silent_al | [?] |
| 22:28.04 | streuner | pm_: if you using dhcpclient or such just look at the config file in /etc - its explained very well.... |
| 22:28.11 | br1_ | stew: as far as I can see /sbin/init does all module loading on my system, and ergo loads after some filesystem on disk has been mounted .. but on fancier systems, it could be really useful to load fancy drivers before disks are availible .. oh well, I handled the problem (remote partition of root disk and reboot) without it getting the way, so it's all good .. |
| 22:28.48 | stew | br1_: i'm talking about sbin/init in the initrd not in your rootfs |
| 22:28.50 | streuner | pm_: -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 1509 2005-06-25 11:33 dhclient.conf |
| 22:29.02 | shart000 | which file do I edit to set Environment Variables, I am trying to starup tomcat5. I have already installed j2re1.5 etc |
| 22:29.04 | pm_ | streuner ok, but thats is the idea right? put the dns in the dhcp file so it wont alter my resolv.conf, right? |
| 22:29.11 | mango | _elMo_: thanks elmo. still does not work. something is very wrong there |
| 22:29.20 | br1_ | stew: oh yeah ? .. hmf, I gonna check into that right now .. |
| 22:29.32 | bartden | mhall maybe you can paste me your deb lines for kde 3.5 |
| 22:29.38 | streuner | pm_: nah, dhcp client always alter your resolv.conf |
| 22:29.46 | mhall | !3.1 |
| 22:29.46 | dpkg | [3.1] sarge |
| 22:29.59 | mhall | bartden: you can't install KDE 3.5 from that repo on sarge |
| 22:30.12 | streuner | pm_: but it would always use the give DNS servers in the config file |
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| 22:30.21 | streuner | s/give/given/ |
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| 22:30.38 | br1_ | stew: I see, but what does /sbin/init (on initrd image) do when there is no /etc/inittab (on initrd image) ? |
| 22:31.10 | pm_ | streuner so it wont solve my problems, my problem is: i hvae the vpnc, and i must add a nameserver to the resolv.conf, but every time the dhcp alters it and take out that line. |
| 22:31.13 | stew | br1_: its just a shell script |
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| 22:31.27 | pm_ | s/hvae/have |
| 22:31.38 | streuner | pm_: shouldn't it be ok then? |
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| 22:31.55 | streuner | pm_: i think its the *right* DNS server(s) then... |
| 22:31.59 | br1_ | oh really ? .. well, it must be getting late, because by now my reasoning is getting a bit silly .. I will look a bit closer next time :-) |
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| 22:32.14 | pm_ | streuner no, because if dhcp take out the vpn line the vpn dont work. |
| 22:32.15 | br1_ | ahh, there we go .. |
| 22:32.20 | andresdj | canal español |
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| 22:32.39 | quik_ | hey folks |
| 22:32.42 | azeem | !es |
| 22:32.42 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 22:32.47 | azeem | andresdj: ^^ |
| 22:32.49 | bartden | mhall maybe you can paste me your deb lines for kde 3.5 |
| 22:32.50 | pm_ | streuner see, i dont have problems with the dns server, the dhcpclient get it normally |
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| 22:32.58 | quik_ | how do I turn off my kde/gnome x-server from starting when I load the machine? |
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| 22:33.01 | streuner | pm_: usually dhcp starts first |
| 22:33.03 | bartden | aah sry i didnt read your post |
| 22:33.16 | pm_ | streuner my problem is that to the vpn work i need a nameserver 10.x.x.x line in the resolv.conf/ |
| 22:33.31 | RolandU | my problem is that settings made in alsaconf are not made permanent. I set it up to use soundcard X and after rebooting, it is reset to using soundcard Z |
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| 22:33.33 | mhall | bartden: you can't install KDE 3.5 from that repo on sarge |
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| 22:33.37 | streuner | pm_: there is an option for dhcp config file, Don't touch resolv.conf as well |
| 22:33.37 | bartden | mhall so is it possible to install kde 3.5 for an other deb line |
| 22:33.52 | WireDDD | is there anyway to get glx on a computer with nividia graphics cards without the nvidia kernel? |
| 22:33.53 | mhall | bartden: i'm not sure, i was checking on backports.org but they don't seem to have it |
| 22:33.57 | mhall | !kde3.5 |
| 22:33.57 | dpkg | i guess kde 3.5 is most of kde3.5 is in sid currently, it will take some time for it to move to etch, in the meantime you can use: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0/ or Not for sarge, or ask #debian-kde |
| 22:34.08 | Amorphous | seems like the extracted changelogs are not on pdo.debian.net, is there any alternative location? |
| 22:34.10 | pm_ | streuner ahh, i will search for it...thanks |
| 22:34.10 | starscalling | hmm |
| 22:34.15 | mhall | bartden: i suspect you will need to talk to #debian-kde |
| 22:34.20 | bartden | k thx |
| 22:34.27 | starscalling | does anyone know if its possible to have more than one ftp daemon installed? |
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| 22:35.08 | WireDDD | starscalling, yes it is |
| 22:35.19 | br1_ | stew: nice one, that basically explained it all .. |
| 22:35.20 | WireDDD | but they have to be on seperate ports |
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| 22:36.32 | starscalling | hmm |
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| 22:36.37 | starscalling | i c. |
| 22:36.45 | De_Mon | I'm trying to compile a kernel for a cobalt, which requires a different kernel format, not vmlinuz. How do I get the correct file into my make-kpkg'd kernel? |
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| 22:36.49 | stew | starscalling: you will only be able to install one debian ftpd package however |
| 22:36.56 | mattwestm | how do I add a user using the terminal? |
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| 22:37.00 | WireDDD | stew, really? |
| 22:37.01 | awj | I'm having a problem with erlang (the latest from stable, testing and unstable). Whenever I try to start erl, I get a segfault. The backtrace is extremely unhelpful (symbols are stripped). Anyone know how I could get to the root of the error? |
| 22:37.01 | De_Mon | s/kernel/deb/ |
| 22:37.06 | starscalling | might be better to add another user to pure-ftpd and make one with a different home direcotry then |
| 22:37.12 | debiankid | pple im havin trouble mounting a ?? file system when i type mount -t /mnt/hda4 /mnt/hda4 he ask me the filesystem type |
| 22:37.17 | nadeem | mattwestm, adduser -m foo |
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| 22:37.27 | stew | WireDDD: yes, they all should both provide and conflict with the ftp-server meta-pacakge to prevent 2 from being installed at once |
| 22:37.30 | De_Mon | debiankid mount -t <filesystem> /here /there |
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| 22:37.51 | plb | abrotman: linux version of songbird will be available in the next build ;] |
| 22:37.52 | debiankid | De_Mon i try using -t vfat but he give me an error |
| 22:37.53 | GodKilla- | hey |
| 22:38.03 | GodKilla- | how can i find out the i/o ports of my devices? |
| 22:38.06 | WireDDD | stew, I can install proftpd and vsftpd at the same time... |
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| 22:38.24 | debiankid | De_Mon W95 Ext'd (LBA) what kine of filesystem is that b? |
| 22:38.26 | WireDDD | ph wait I guess I can't |
| 22:38.28 | De_Mon | debiankid what's the error? vfat may not be the correct filesystem type |
| 22:38.35 | stew | !conflicts vsftpd |
| 22:38.45 | pm_ | when i alter the resolv.conf file, i must restart my network service to the nameservers work? |
| 22:38.55 | petemc | pm_: no |
| 22:38.56 | De_Mon | debiankid try umsdos |
| 22:39.07 | debiankid | umsdos? |
| 22:39.26 | petemc | debiankid: you sure you're trying to mount the correct partition? |
| 22:39.26 | resiak | umsdos. |
| 22:39.35 | debiankid | mount umsdos /une/other /other ? |
| 22:39.41 | h4mster | !tell debiankid about umsdos |
| 22:39.45 | debiankid | petemc yes im sure |
| 22:40.05 | De_Mon | debiankid mount -t umsdos /here /there |
| 22:40.18 | debiankid | De_Mon ok there i go |
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| 22:40.35 | De_Mon | you're welcome |
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| 22:41.17 | pego | hi can't manage to boot on an cdrom iso with pxe in pxelinux.cfg/default :( |
| 22:41.32 | debiankid | De_Mon umsdos msdos_read_super failed , mount aborted nmount wrong fs type , bad option , bad superblock dev/hda4 missing codepage or other eror |
| 22:41.37 | starscalling | ahh |
| 22:41.46 | GodKilla- | how can i find out the i/o ports of my devices? |
| 22:41.49 | CaT[tm] | umsdos? that's still around? |
| 22:41.55 | nadeem | I have 'somestring' with quotes as an output from a script, how do I get somestring w/o the quotes? |
| 22:42.22 | starscalling | WireDDD, stew thanx :) found a way to make it work XD just had to edit /etc/pure-ftpd/purefptd.password and non chroot a special user ^^ |
| 22:42.23 | nadeem | GodKilla-, lspci -v (??) |
| 22:42.54 | GodKilla- | thanks nadeem |
| 22:44.08 | DirkGently | nadeem: you could pipe the output through sed: script | sed s/\"//g |
| 22:44.37 | nadeem | DirkGently, thanks :) |
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| 22:45.45 | paladin_ | hi |
| 22:46.04 | paladin_ | I upgraded my bash and I can't use / as an alias |
| 22:46.21 | nadeem | DirkGently, never knew that sed is that powerful, but damn, it's hard to use/understand :P |
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| 22:46.54 | DirkGently | nadeem: that's just basic stuff.. regexp's can blow your mind |
| 22:47.10 | paladin_ | previously i had / as 'cd /' |
| 22:47.10 | SerajewelKS | paladin_: why the HELL would you want to override / |
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| 22:47.41 | SerajewelKS | paladin_: that's actually quite idiotic. alias r or something. |
| 22:47.44 | nadeem | paladin_, use "cdr" instead of "/" |
| 22:47.49 | sylvisj | How do I make a folder and all subdirs read/write-able as user instead of just as root? |
| 22:48.02 | SerajewelKS | sylvisj: chmod -R +w foo |
| 22:48.03 | nadeem | sylvisj, chown -R somedir |
| 22:48.08 | sylvisj | Thankx. |
| 22:48.11 | sylvisj | ks |
| 22:48.34 | paladin_ | ok btw which kde program compares between two text files? |
| 22:48.38 | nadeem | DirkGently, I am reading now an article about reg expressions, thanks for mentioning it :) |
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| 22:48.41 | nadeem | paladin_, kompare |
| 22:48.45 | paladin_ | right |
| 22:48.56 | DirkGently | sylvisj: careful where you do that.. I've had to rebuild someone's PC after they screwed up the permissions |
| 22:49.41 | DirkGently | nadeem: it's a good skill to learn.. it's used all over the place |
| 22:49.54 | sylvisj | DirkGently: I know. I'm just rw'ing /home/sylvisj/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/ |
| 22:50.00 | DirkGently | (in the *nix world) |
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| 22:50.08 | paladin_ | last question. apt-get update checks for file packages.gz or something, right? |
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| 22:50.22 | paladin_ | some sites have packages.bz2 |
| 22:50.24 | paladin_ | how can i make apt recognise it? |
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| 22:51.38 | azeem | paladin_: newer versions of APT handle it autmatically |
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| 22:52.51 | paladin_ | are you sure? it's the newest version |
| 22:53.08 | azeem | what version do you have? |
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| 22:53.16 | paladin_ | apt 0.6.43.2 |
| 22:53.17 | apt | 0.6 |
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| 22:54.25 | paladin_ | i have 0.6 |
| 22:55.01 | azeem | paladin_: are you sure it doesn't use .bz2? |
| 22:55.20 | john_c | how can i dump or see pkgs that are droped by iptables ? |
| 22:55.20 | paladin_ | it says it doesn't find packages.gz |
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| 22:56.01 | dabreegster | Hey, any reason why udev with a 2.6.12-1-386 kernel in testing wouldn't be seeing my IDE CD drives, only my hard drives? Not only is /dev/cdrom missing, but /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd as well |
| 22:56.07 | dondelelcaro | paladin_: what does your Release file say? |
| 22:56.13 | DirkGently | paladin_: is it a public source? |
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| 22:57.33 | stew | dabreegster: do you have the ide-cd module loaded? |
| 22:57.37 | dabreegster | stew: Yes |
| 22:57.53 | dabreegster | stew: No messages about cdrom in dmesg before or after I loaded it manually |
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| 22:59.13 | paladin_ | it's a testingversion |
| 22:59.35 | markos_64 | MWAHAHAHAH! my new debian system up and running enough to irc from! |
| 22:59.40 | stew | dabreegster: do you have a /etc/udev/rules.d/cd-aliases.rules? |
| 22:59.55 | dabreegster | stew: Yes |
| 23:00.04 | paladin_ | markos where ar eyou from? |
| 23:00.22 | markos_64 | paladin_: poland |
| 23:00.42 | dabreegster | stew: Hmm, BUS is set to "scsi" |
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| 23:01.05 | elno | hi, whats the name of that nice dvd burner? |
| 23:01.12 | h4mster | !poland |
| 23:01.12 | dpkg | i guess poland is a Hacker/Cracker breeding ground... beware of especially ql65.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl ... irc nick zimnyx ... He Compromised my machine with a root-kit exploiting an old copy of OpenSSH. I had to wipe and reinstall. He or They are now launching a massive attack against my ISP. Be careful with them... I helped him (zimnyx) but after helping he thanks me like that. reported by Isuba |
| 23:01.38 | azeem | dpkg: forget poland |
| 23:01.38 | dpkg | i forgot poland, azeem |
| 23:02.14 | elno | hi |
| 23:02.24 | elno | !ping |
| 23:02.25 | dpkg | pong |
| 23:02.37 | elno | !dvd burner |
| 23:02.41 | markos_64 | neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl is using dynamic ip. little point in recording them. |
| 23:02.54 | elno | !burn |
| 23:02.57 | h4mster | !burner |
| 23:02.57 | dpkg | hmm... burner is a tool to burn cds and for more details you should go to http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdb.html |
| 23:02.59 | azeem | elno: maybe you can be a bit more specific |
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| 23:03.07 | h4mster | hehe ^^ |
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| 23:03.23 | stew | dabreegster: you may want to get a fresh udev config |
| 23:03.40 | elno | hi azeem i want to burn a dvd, but long ago i use debian, so what software do you recomend me? |
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| 23:03.46 | dabreegster | stew: Alright. It hasn't been touched to my knowledge. Should I just tell apt to reinstall udev? |
| 23:03.51 | elno | using gnome actually |
| 23:03.53 | stew | !fresh udev config |
| 23:03.53 | dpkg | somebody said fresh udev config was when upgrading to a new major release of udev it is often beneficial to get fresh udev config files: dpkg -P --force-depends udev && apt-get install udev |
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| 23:04.06 | dabreegster | thanks stew |
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| 23:04.19 | python_ | hello |
| 23:04.25 | stew | i find it ironic that http://ntp.org doesn't show the time on the homepage |
| 23:04.25 | azeem | elno: I don't have a DVD burner |
| 23:04.46 | elno | omg... i just want to burn 1 dvd |
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| 23:05.51 | citral | elno: try gnomebaker perhaps |
| 23:06.08 | elno | ok installing.... |
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| 23:08.08 | python_ | is there a way to set up debian to autoconfigure or load the install cd on a hardrive |
| 23:08.30 | elno | im getting this erro from gnomebaker, THE MOUNT point for the writing device could not be obtained...... |
| 23:08.37 | azeem | python_: look into FAI, ratehr |
| 23:08.40 | azeem | !fai |
| 23:08.40 | dpkg | well, fai is Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or at #fai |
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| 23:10.46 | pego | why do i can't find partimage in apt-cache search ? |
| 23:10.55 | pego | !partimage |
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| 23:11.10 | valent|n0 | how to find out my X-Windows Version |
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| 23:11.36 | stew | valent|n0: X -version |
| 23:11.36 | azeem | pego: it's not in sarge |
| 23:11.44 | valent|n0 | thx |
| 23:12.00 | jair | guys, where is the channel where I can talk about gnome? |
| 23:12.14 | stew | jair: #debian-gnome on irc.gnome.org |
| 23:12.28 | stew | jair: or #gnome on irc.gnome.org if that one is dead |
| 23:12.38 | h4mster | !tell jair about gnome |
| 23:12.44 | pego | azeem: damn no way to get a .deb so ? |
| 23:12.58 | azeem | pego: you can backport it from testing, perhaps |
| 23:13.03 | valent|n0 | yea I think #debian-gnome is dead |
| 23:13.22 | h4mster | try #gnome-debian |
| 23:13.34 | azeem | #gnome-debian is a development channel, mostly |
| 23:13.36 | pego | azeem: k and do you know a good "ghost" like , i can boot in pxe ? can't make g4u work :/ |
| 23:13.48 | azeem | pego: no, sorry |
| 23:14.40 | pego | azeem: its USE_KEYWORD="~x86" for look in testing ? |
| 23:14.48 | azeem | pego: ? |
| 23:14.58 | nadeem | is this a gentoo box? USE? :P |
| 23:15.07 | elno | how to add / allow a normal user to burn dvd's ? |
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| 23:15.22 | h4mster | !tell elno about chmod |
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| 23:15.42 | pego | azeem: sorry nothing :) |
| 23:15.57 | valent|n0 | I'm hopeless with debian .. sigh :( |
| 23:16.00 | elno | omg... im a gimp |
| 23:16.15 | valent|n0 | or linux in general LOL |
| 23:16.20 | h4mster | !lol |
| 23:16.21 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 23:16.32 | h4mster | ^^ |
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| 23:16.44 | petemc | ... |
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| 23:16.46 | valent|n0 | hah |
| 23:16.51 | foadd | heh :P |
| 23:16.53 | h4mster | lol |
| 23:16.56 | h4mster | xD |
| 23:17.01 | jair | stew, thank you... :) |
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| 23:17.51 | MoDaX | elno: adduser <username> cdrom |
| 23:18.14 | CountZ | i've seen things you people wouldn't believe |
| 23:18.17 | awj | Anyone know of a good way to list all packages/versions installed on a debian server? |
| 23:18.22 | CountZ | attack ships on the shores of orion |
| 23:18.34 | awj | so that I could do a diff between two servers package versions. |
| 23:18.37 | jshoenberger | Could someone tell me what is wrong with this expression? RESULT=`echo $VAR1*$VAR2/1024 | bc` |
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| 23:18.46 | elno | its already in the cdrom group, but im getting this erro from gnomebaker, "THE MOUNT point for the writing device could not be obtained...... " |
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| 23:19.04 | stew | !wikifaq awj PackageManagement |
| 23:19.04 | dpkg | awj: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/PackageManagement or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 23:19.07 | h4mster | !sleep |
| 23:19.07 | dpkg | sleep is, like, For wimpy organic beings. Or, sleep is probably a poor substitute for coffee or for mortals or for the weak or the glory of the cowards and the un-caffeinateds. :-) or the activity of choice for the intelligent person or time which could be spent hacking the planet.. or .. whatever .. ZZzzzz ... |
| 23:19.24 | drusscol | can anyone recommend a nice gui frontend to diff, preferably one that might be included in knoppix? |
| 23:19.45 | elno | sos ? |
| 23:19.47 | foadd | drusscol, kompare (??) |
| 23:20.07 | MoDaX | elno: sorry, I don't nothing about gnome* stuff. try k3b |
| 23:20.14 | awj | nice, I never knew about the COLUMNS environment variable. That's why I've always shunned dpkg -l |
| 23:20.17 | awj | Thakns |
| 23:20.18 | MoDaX | don't know anything* |
| 23:20.25 | elno | k3b !!! thats it |
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| 23:21.57 | duhast | hello |
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| 23:23.45 | ParoXsitiC | Hello, I have two machines-> Windows XP and Debian Sarge Linux. The linux machine is directly connected to my cable modem and then using crossover cat5 cable I networked the windows and linux machine. I am using iptables to make the linux machine to use masquerading so that windows can use the internet. My problem is that when I download anything big or use enough bandwidth my linux machine will lose its connection and I have to p |
| 23:24.04 | resiak | Truncated at "and I have to p" |
| 23:24.56 | ParoXsitiC | A total description and look into my IPtables script can be seen at http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Linux_Networking/Q_21729193.html |
| 23:25.24 | astronut | is there any way to see a list of packages installed from a specific repository? |
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| 23:28.24 | MoDaX | ParoXsitiC: does it happen when access the Internet from your sarge box directly? |
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| 23:28.38 | MoDaX | when you* |
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| 23:29.06 | ParoXsitiC | I don't know as I never installed KDE on the sarge box, It just uses command line and I only use it to host a server |
| 23:29.30 | resiak | You don't need KDE for a web browser |
| 23:30.01 | vulture | heck, accessing the internet doesn't require a web browser either |
| 23:30.05 | markos_64 | hm... how do i install gcc-4.1? |
| 23:30.09 | ParoXsitiC | Well browsing the web is perfectly fine for me, its when I use large amounts of bandwidth (bittorrent downloads) or even doing a simple speakeasy speed test |
| 23:30.12 | vulture | "ping google.com" is "accessing the Internet" |
| 23:30.21 | resiak | ParoXsitiC: You do realise that your original message was truncated |
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| 23:30.29 | ParoXsitiC | i see. well yeah i can ping and access it |
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| 23:30.33 | MoDaX | ParoXsitiC: you can use wget from downloading or text-mode elinks, links2 etc. as a browser |
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| 23:30.53 | ParoXsitiC | the finishing msg was |
| 23:30.54 | MoDaX | s/from/for/ |
| 23:30.54 | ParoXsitiC | "and I have to power-cycle my modem and restart the linux PC. Why? what can fix this" |
| 23:31.47 | ParoXsitiC | Basically everything works fine, browsing the net and pinging. Its just when I use alot of bandwidth for 10 seconds or more (alot of bandwidth being 200KB or more) |
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| 23:32.26 | ParoXsitiC | I still have the connection VIA networking, its just like the iptables are choking up or what not. It wont forward anything |
| 23:32.49 | answerguy | My apache2 package is giving me fits; it won't execute CGI scripts in /usr/lib/cgi-bin; it just sends me the sources to them! |
| 23:32.58 | ParoXsitiC | Maybe there are constraints and (flushing?) that I need to include in my iptables that will monitor it better |
| 23:33.07 | answerguy | I tried completely purging and re-installing the whole set! |
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| 23:33.26 | ParoXsitiC | I also have my INPUT part open up to anyone. As the server I am running requires port 0-9999 to be open |
| 23:33.34 | moshii | antgel: are the scripts marked as executable? |
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| 23:34.09 | moshii | answerguy: are the scripts marked as executable? |
| 23:34.13 | answerguy | Yes |
| 23:34.17 | MoDaX | ParoXsitiC: try using SNAT instead of MASQUERADE |
| 23:34.21 | answerguy | They run fine from the command line |
| 23:34.25 | ParoXsitiC | Okay. |
| 23:34.32 | answerguy | Printing the proper content headers and all. |
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| 23:34.53 | answerguy | One of them is the ipcalc CGI script that's from the Debian main packaging archives. |
| 23:35.14 | ZakkWylde | I'm having trouble using aMule now. I'm using testing, and using the aMule package that comes in it, and every server I connect to says I need to upgrade my client. Do I need to compile my own? Is there a newer version of aMule thats compatible with the eMule network? |
| 23:35.18 | moshii | answerguy: is that directory configured correctly? I use thttpd, but a lot of servers require that you explictly tell it what directories can execute stuff |
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| 23:35.41 | yupio | Hi |
| 23:35.47 | Dewi | is there some way to tell if ntp is working? apart from waiting hours to see if your clock gets any righter? |
| 23:35.51 | yupio | iptables - Linux kernel 2.4+ iptables administration tools this package works with kernel 2.6? |
| 23:36.06 | moshii | ZakkWylde: amule in unstable seems to work |
| 23:36.14 | yupio | using sarge 3.1 |
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| 23:36.22 | MoDaX | yupio: yeah |
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| 23:36.30 | answerguy | First the Apache2 package defines /usr/lib/cgi-bin as the default location; and it's listed in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default with a ScriptAlias and a <Directory ...> block |
| 23:36.37 | ParoXsitiC | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT --to 71.197.31.135 (where 71.197.31.135 is the IP from my ISP) correct? |
| 23:36.39 | yupio | ok, thanks |
| 23:36.50 | answerguy | It's maddening! |
| 23:37.03 | MoDaX | yupio: that's what + mean, i.e. for 2.4 and above |
| 23:37.11 | yupio | ups, ok ok :) |
| 23:37.11 | ZakkWylde | moshii: is there a way to get that to installed/working in testing? or do i have to download/compile a new version from the amule website? |
| 23:37.13 | stew | i can't imaging that masq is failing and snat woulnd't |
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| 23:37.27 | stew | ParoXsitiC: i'd guess you have a problem with whatever hardware sits between your router and the net |
| 23:37.38 | stew | ParoXsitiC: like your cable box / dsl modem whatever |
| 23:37.55 | moshii | ZakkWylde: you could add unstable to sources.list and pin it so that stuff from unstable doesn't get installed useless you force apt to do it |
| 23:38.06 | moshii | ZakkWylde: *unless |
| 23:38.06 | ParoXsitiC | stew: the sarge box is connected to the cable box (no router) |
| 23:38.07 | stew | ParoXsitiC: when you lose your connection what do you do to get it back? |
| 23:38.15 | ParoXsitiC | stew: thats why i forward |
| 23:38.37 | ParoXsitiC | stew: I havent figured the easiest way to do it, but it seems if I restart the linux box and powercycle my modem, it works |
| 23:38.40 | stew | ParoXsitiC: the sarge box is the router. i would blame the cable box long before i blamed the iptables software |
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| 23:39.14 | stew | ParoXsitiC: what happens when you only powercycle the cable box? |
| 23:39.39 | Amarande | hmm |
| 23:39.41 | ParoXsitiC | I would rather blame my iptables setup than iptables software, maybe looking at my script might help http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Linux_Networking/Q_21729193.html |
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| 23:39.53 | Amarande | when dual booting debian and windows, which OS should get the lion's share of a 200GB drive? |
| 23:40.04 | stew | ParoXsitiC: did you set the "die on really high traffic setting" |
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| 23:40.15 | answerguy | Hi, ||ugh |
| 23:40.15 | ParoXsitiC | stew: I might have |
| 23:40.22 | ParoXsitiC | stew: I am new to linux/iptables/networking |
| 23:40.25 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: have your got a motorola cable modem? a lot of them die when they are pushed too hard |
| 23:40.29 | ||ugh | Hey Jim! |
| 23:40.31 | Amarande | After all, Debian can read your NTFS files, whereas I'm not sure of a way to read ext3 via XP. |
| 23:40.32 | stew | ParoXsitiC: (there isn't such a setting) |
| 23:40.36 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: I have a surfboard 3000 |
| 23:40.40 | jadewolf | Anyone know how to test if your Xorg is running your new nvidia drivers or not? |
| 23:40.44 | Amarande | Plus Linux tends to be far, far more efficient about disk space. |
| 23:40.45 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: is it a white thing? |
| 23:41.01 | Amarande | jadewolf: is it in the logs? |
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| 23:41.04 | stew | ParoXsitiC: how long is the ethernet cable between the router and the cable box? |
| 23:41.13 | jadewolf | Amarande, which log would that be in? |
| 23:41.19 | spibants | hello, how can i stop FIREWALL on debian? |
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| 23:41.47 | ParoXsitiC | stew: 5ft? , my crossover cat5 cable is 25 ft however |
| 23:41.47 | asg | spibants: how did you start it? |
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| 23:41.53 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: I can't remember the modem numbers of the white ones but telewest in the UK had problems with them, hence everything gets a newer model now |
| 23:41.53 | stew | ParoXsitiC: motorola is now shipping cables which are too short |
| 23:41.55 | streuner | spibants: there is NO default firewall enabled in debian... |
| 23:42.10 | stew | ParoXsitiC: it must be at least 2m long, if its shorter replace it, it could be causing problems |
| 23:42.13 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: *everyone |
| 23:42.34 | bucky | jadewolf, grep nvidia /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:42.39 | spibants | oh...so somewhere else is my problem..u see i use vnc4server on debian and im trying to get it from XP with vncviewer |
| 23:42.56 | stew | ParoXsitiC: my parents were losing their connection to the internet often until i realized their cable modem came with only a 4ft cable |
| 23:43.10 | ParoXsitiC | stew: are you saying that the cable which connects my cable box to my linux pc (router) has to be 2m (6.5 feet) or longer for it to work correctly? |
| 23:43.11 | jadewolf | bucky, still using just "nv" do I need to manually change that in conf file? |
| 23:43.22 | spibants | but xp vncviewer tells me connection refuced and i thought that firewall was blocking it.. |
| 23:43.30 | stew | ParoXsitiC: i'm saying every ethernet cable needs to be at least 2m |
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| 23:43.46 | jadewolf | gonna restart X, brb |
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| 23:43.50 | stew | ParoXsitiC: err i think 6 feet is enough, but 5ft definately isn't |
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| 23:44.16 | conreyt | having driver issues ((Xv)) with my intel i810 chipset any video folks here to help? |
| 23:44.25 | Supaplex | my goodness, bug 347937 just kills me :-/ |
| 23:44.25 | Amarande | I thought it was an eth cable that was too LONG that would cause signal-loss issues. |
| 23:44.28 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: you should check the modems log at 192.168.100.1 too |
| 23:44.43 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: how can i? |
| 23:45.35 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: surfboard modems have their own httpd, tap your modems ip into a browser and you will see all sorts of magical things .. like your signal quality |
| 23:45.43 | bucky | jadewolf, yes and comment out dri and GLcore and make sure Load "glx" is present and if you're running xserver-xfree86 /msg dpkg xmd5sum |
| 23:46.00 | tuv | what is the deal with those "libswt3.1-gtk-java" and "libswt-gtk-3.1-java". They conflict and dependencies of different packages, which makes their dependants impossible to install on a single system!! |
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| 23:46.10 | DirkGently | dadexter: did you get lighttpd working? |
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| 23:46.17 | MoDaX | spibants: check with netstat -ap | grep LISTEN (as root) if vncserver is listening on the relevant/all interfaces |
| 23:46.18 | tarzeau | azeem: no browser.app yet |
| 23:46.29 | tuv | how can one work around this?? |
| 23:46.34 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: wow thanks, I only thought routers and such had their own httpd, ill search through the site and stuff |
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| 23:46.58 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: you can see if/when your modem gets firmware updates and things like that too |
| 23:47.34 | azeem | tarzeau: what about Shiira? |
| 23:47.39 | conreyt | having driver issues ((Xv)) with my intel i810 chipset any video folks here to help? |
| 23:47.46 | strider | tuv: AFAIk, azureus and Eclipse have an issue with this |
| 23:47.59 | azeem | does it run on gnustep on GNU/Linux? |
| 23:48.05 | tuv | strider: exactly.. can't they coexist? |
| 23:48.19 | De_Mon | how do I extract the 'rules' file used to build a package? |
| 23:48.34 | tarzeau | azeem: that's mac os x. if someone ports it to gnustep... i think it needs webcore |
| 23:48.36 | strider | tuv: get the binary if you want it. there is a bug already on this |
| 23:48.37 | MoDaX | tuv: I'm pretty sure there is a good reason for this like the need to recompile against new the library (just a guess) |
| 23:48.37 | stew | De_Mon: /msg dpkg source ;/msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 23:48.47 | tarzeau | azeem: webcore is khtml with objective-c++ around it wrapped |
| 23:49.02 | strider | tuv: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=341407 |
| 23:49.08 | tarzeau | azeem: back when it was ported to gnustep, gcc didn't have obj-c++ only obj-c |
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| 23:49.36 | tuv | strider: which binary? eclipse's? |
| 23:49.45 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: I notice the time is formatted oddly, how can I convert 060206035737 to a time that I can actually read |
| 23:49.58 | De_Mon | stew I want to re-use the script that the package was previously built with |
| 23:50.15 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: not sure, I have a SB5100.. |
| 23:50.24 | ParoXsitiC | Okay thanks |
| 23:50.34 | strider | tuv: azureus would do and it worked fine the last time i used it. i don't use it anymore |
| 23:50.48 | markos_64 | ParoXsitiC: insert space, / or : each 2 digits |
| 23:50.53 | dadexter | DirkGently: yup. |
| 23:51.10 | De_Mon | stew the package I want to rebuild doesnt have a source file, I'd have to extract it *from* the deb |
| 23:51.13 | markos_64 | ParoXsitiC: 2006/02/06, 03:57:37 it is |
| 23:51.22 | azeem | tarzeau: somebody said he'd work on getting it to run on the Hurd, so I assumed it'd run on Linux already |
| 23:51.26 | ParoXsitiC | markos_64: thanks |
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| 23:51.31 | stew | De_Mon: its not in the deb, only in the .diff.gz which is part of the source pacakge |
| 23:51.34 | DirkGently | dadexter: what was the problem? I can't connect except via localhost |
| 23:51.50 | stew | De_Mon: what package? |
| 23:52.20 | De_Mon | stew kernel-image-2.4.27-pre5-cobalt3_1.0_i386.deb |
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| 23:52.34 | stew | De_Mon: ask whomever you got that from for the source |
| 23:52.40 | De_Mon | I'm not even sure where I got it, just hope the maintainer is still alive |
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| 23:52.42 | stew | De_Mon: they are required by law to provide it |
| 23:52.49 | ParoXsitiC | moshii,stew: according to my cable box's logs. no error or any message gets logged when I lose connection |
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| 23:53.45 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: you might want to google your model number to see if it's one that has issues though |
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| 23:53.51 | stew | ParoXsitiC: tell us what happens if you a) reboot the router but not the cable box, and b) reboot the cable box but not the router |
| 23:54.00 | jadewolf | Anyone know why I can't find 2.6.14-2-k7 kernel when I apt-cache search kernel | grep 2.6 | more? |
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| 23:54.35 | chealer | jadewolf: probably because there's no such kernel in your sources |
| 23:54.50 | jadewolf | chealer, why is there nvidia kernel modules for that then? |
| 23:55.03 | stew | jadewolf: paste your sources.list to a pastebin |
| 23:55.10 | ParoXsitiC | stew: a) when I reboot the router, and not the cable box then the router will not use DHCP correctly b) I havent tried just rebooting the cable box as of yet. |
| 23:55.28 | dadexter | DirkGently: I couldn't get it to work with php... but I haven't tried anything else just yet |
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| 23:55.44 | stew | ParoXsitiC: what do you mean it won't use DHCP correctly? |
| 23:55.51 | ParoXsitiC | stew: i will do some more debugging and experimenting and ask more questions later on, thanks for all help |
| 23:55.55 | chealer | jadewolf: #347552 |
| 23:56.06 | ParoXsitiC | stew: it wont find a lease or anythign without reboot the cable box |
| 23:56.18 | stew | ParoXsitiC: then the problem is with the cable box, not with linux |
| 23:56.23 | ParoXsitiC | stew: ok |
| 23:56.25 | jadewolf | chealer, whats the number for? |
| 23:56.26 | ParoXsitiC | stew: thanks |
| 23:56.34 | chealer | !tell jadewolf about bts |
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| 23:57.12 | jadewolf | chealer, want me to go to that bug number? |
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| 23:57.20 | chealer | jadewolf: if you wish |
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| 23:58.01 | ajxcrc | what's a good ftp client for linux? and that support fxp? |
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| 23:58.43 | stew | doh, my sources were out of date |
| 23:58.46 | markybob | ajxcrc: gftp? quftp? |
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| 23:59.21 | dadexter | DirkGently: did you comment out server.bind in the config file? |
| 23:59.51 | jadewolf | stew, http://pastebin.com/545859 <-- I posted my sources.list |
