| 00:00.03 | Eno_ | vin`: I prefer xchat. |
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| 00:00.25 | Hexpucmb | hehehe |
| 00:00.33 | sanmarcos | Carlos Saúl Menem |
| 00:00.47 | disposable_ | Eno_: there is a program which let's you transfer X applications over ssh, but i can't recall its name |
| 00:00.50 | sobersabre | liran_, and if you don't ... it is a problem. |
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| 00:01.08 | sobersabre | disposable_, there is, it is called SSH. |
| 00:01.30 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | oops |
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| 00:01.47 | liran_ | sobersabre, i see ok |
| 00:01.50 | Gnurdux | gedit just froze again |
| 00:01.55 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | this is the largest number of people in one irc room I ever saw in my life :) |
| 00:01.55 | liran_ | sobersabre, then i have the other alternative |
| 00:01.59 | Eno_ | I'd like to transfer a program running on one X server to another one. |
| 00:02.01 | Gnurdux | and even if i kill ALL processes running by my user |
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| 00:02.19 | liran_ | sobersabre, to make my program crypt with md5-style rather than normal DES |
| 00:02.21 | sobersabre | Eno_, maybe you can try to run a VNC server on your machine, on localhost. |
| 00:02.23 | Gnurdux | it doesnt let me login again |
| 00:02.30 | Eno_ | sobersabre: eww eww :) |
| 00:02.36 | liran_ | sobersabre, but for that im gonna need a bit of help :) |
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| 00:02.39 | Gnurdux | so now i need to reboot... can someone please help! this is really bad |
| 00:02.40 | Eno_ | VNC is yuck. |
| 00:03.02 | sobersabre | Eno_, then, you have the other option. |
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| 00:03.15 | sobersabre | write your own application. |
| 00:03.23 | n00bhead | ;) |
| 00:03.23 | sobersabre | ;) |
| 00:03.23 | Eno_ | Hmm. |
| 00:03.44 | sobersabre | since, ssh is ... argh, and vnc is yuck. |
| 00:03.56 | sobersabre | Eno_, how about learning to use BitchX ? |
| 00:04.13 | Eno_ | No way, irssi is the best console irc. :) |
| 00:04.17 | liable | Gnurdux: kill gdm |
| 00:04.18 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | one question : does Debian support ATI Radeon 9250 3d acceleration? |
| 00:04.25 | Eno_ | sobersabre: I'm using irssi now. |
| 00:04.29 | sobersabre | Eno_, what's the problem screening the session ? |
| 00:04.38 | vin` | Dr_Amr_Gameel: does xorg support it? |
| 00:04.39 | sobersabre | i mean 'screen' utility |
| 00:04.49 | beardy | Dr_Amr_Gameel: The question is if X does. |
| 00:05.07 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | what's Xorg? |
| 00:05.11 | Eno_ | sobersabre: I was just looking into if it was possible to do the same thing I'm doing with irssi with xchat. I've been doing this with screen for a while. |
| 00:05.40 | Gnurdux | liable, you think gdm is whats doing it? |
| 00:05.54 | Gnurdux | has anyone else had this problem? |
| 00:05.55 | vin` | Dr_Amr_Gameel: xorg gives me 3D acceleration for Radeon IGP340, google. |
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| 00:06.21 | sobersabre | Eno_, as I can see it, in the current setup, when you forward X connections, to local X server, you must either "freeze" xchat, and then defrost it, or... run the server remotely. |
| 00:06.28 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | vin : ok |
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| 00:06.53 | sobersabre | since irc always lives, and this is the reason you need it... you cannot use the 1st way. |
| 00:07.15 | sobersabre | and if you need the 2nd - it is addressed by VNC. |
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| 00:07.37 | sobersabre | Eno_, what's the problem with vnc from your point of view ? |
| 00:08.30 | sobersabre | ok, me leaves. |
| 00:08.30 | Eno_ | sobersabre: Oh, I've used it a couple times and it just seemed slow.. and I didn't like having the "X within X" window... |
| 00:08.54 | sobersabre | Eno_, you need to use compression and to decrease graphics quality. |
| 00:08.55 | disposable_ | Eno_: for the Xchat client - have a look at xexec |
| 00:09.21 | disposable_ | sobersabre: xexec is the program i meant. not quite like ssh. |
| 00:09.21 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | vin' : I googled for it, it's supported, thank you |
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| 00:09.33 | sobersabre | disposable_, thanks. |
| 00:09.36 | sobersabre | bye all. |
| 00:10.38 | vin` | Dr_Amr_Gameel: xorg is available only on testing/unstable distributions of debian, xserver-xfree86 in sarge, either install backported xserver-xorg for sarge or install testing/unstable. |
| 00:10.46 | Eno_ | disposable_: The xexec package in Debian? That just sounds like it lets me run a command... |
| 00:11.05 | Eno_ | Sort of like starting an xterm and typing in the command. |
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| 00:11.23 | Hooke | hi |
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| 00:11.40 | Hooke | I'm trying to create an ia32 chroot in my amd64 system, so that I can run mozilla with flash plugins. I'm following the instructions found in http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html But, after typing: debootstrap --arch i386 sid /var/chroot/sid-ia32 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ and, after getting several lines of "extracting" code, I got this error message: W: Failure trying to run: ch |
| 00:11.41 | Hooke | Hooke root /var/chroot/sid-ia32 dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/debconf_1.4.70_all.deb |
| 00:11.41 | Hooke | Hooke Can anyone help, please? thanks |
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| 00:11.57 | disposable_ | Eno_: sorry, i meant XEXEC from http://gpl.internetconnection.net/ |
| 00:12.06 | vin` | Hooke: try #debian-amd64 |
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| 00:13.00 | Hooke | vin`, I did.. but the channel is quiet, no one talks |
| 00:13.09 | SoloFlyer | is this the only debian chanel this server? |
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| 00:13.13 | dsherret | what is the best xserver for ati graphics cards? |
| 00:13.13 | Eno_ | disposable_: That looks like it could be useful. |
| 00:13.21 | vin` | Hooke: ok, try your luck here. ;) |
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| 00:13.25 | Hooke | ok, now they are answering in amd64 :) |
| 00:13.28 | disposable_ | Eno_: don't ask me how though :) |
| 00:13.41 | disposable_ | SoloFlyer: you can create one very easily :) |
| 00:13.50 | EdLin | SoloFlyer: there are many |
| 00:13.54 | bjenkins | jjazz: you in da room? |
| 00:14.02 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | vin' : it says in Debians site that Xfree86 supports Radeon 9250, do I need anything else or is that it? |
| 00:14.13 | bjenkins | still trying to make my printer work |
| 00:14.20 | vin` | Dr_Amr_Gameel: that's probably 2D. |
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| 00:14.25 | QQmelo | hola |
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| 00:14.28 | smoo2 | how do I configure the services that start at each run level |
| 00:14.45 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | vin' : mmm, ok |
| 00:14.45 | liable | !services |
| 00:14.45 | QQmelo | smoo2 |
| 00:14.45 | dpkg | services is, like, to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/ |
| 00:15.14 | vin` | Dr_Amr_Gameel: your other option is to look at the fglrx ATI drivers. |
| 00:15.35 | vin` | dsherret: xserver-xorg |
| 00:15.45 | dsherret | vin`: thanks |
| 00:16.07 | EdLin | dsherret: xserver-xfree86 works fine if you're not using a card it doesn't work with |
| 00:16.20 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | vin' : yea , I installed my card on openSuSE using fglrx ATI driver, should that work for debian too? |
| 00:16.29 | Rawplayer | when i send mail sendmail always uses the lanip(rfc1918) some mail servers wont accept whats obvious what do i need to change in sendmail that it uses its external hostname? |
| 00:16.58 | dsherret | EdLin: oh ok, i might as well stick with it then :P |
| 00:17.03 | vin` | Dr_Amr_Gameel: sure, /msg dpkg ati debs |
| 00:17.28 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | vin' : thank you so much |
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| 00:18.14 | dsherret | last question, how can I edit my video card settings (i'm not talking about the settings in the control centre) |
| 00:18.18 | SoloFlyer | is there any debian training certifications?? |
| 00:18.59 | QQmelo | mmmm |
| 00:19.01 | QQmelo | lpi |
| 00:19.02 | zimm | ummm, has anyone tried putting debian on a toshiba quosmio ??? http://www.tesco.com/electrical/product.aspx?R=8285643&bci=270%7CLaptops |
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| 00:19.13 | vin` | dsherret: editor /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (the recommended way is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:19.29 | dsherret | vin`: thanks again |
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| 00:20.05 | vin` | zimm: nothing at tuxmobil.org? |
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| 00:21.07 | disposable_ | zimm: not on quosmio, but many other toshibas. they don't like booting linux cds, that i can tell you |
| 00:21.22 | vin` | it's qosmio not quosmio |
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| 00:21.49 | SoloFlyer | disposable_, i have never had problems booting linux on a toshiba |
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| 00:22.02 | zimm | vin`, yeh sorry..... should know that its in front of me .. lol .. |
| 00:22.32 | Eno_ | disposable_: Yeah, that's really weird. It's like a 5 line README and I can't figure it out. :/ |
| 00:22.34 | disposable_ | zimm: i've always had. they start and freeze. they, however, have good manufacturer's support for linux. loooooad of tips on toshiba website |
| 00:22.49 | vin` | zimm: it's fucking expensive, it better work. ;) |
| 00:23.02 | Eno_ | disposable_: I'll stick with irssi. :) |
| 00:23.10 | vin` | Eno_: \o/ |
| 00:23.15 | disposable_ | Eno_: have youdownloaded it? should have a different README with it |
| 00:23.24 | zimm | vin`, well , so far so good .. just wanbt linux on it :) |
| 00:23.25 | Eno_ | Looks like the same one to me. |
| 00:23.28 | SoloFlyer | sorry S2 |
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| 00:23.53 | Eno_ | vin`: \o/ what is that? |
| 00:24.00 | vin` | zimm: well, what are waiting for, boot it. |
| 00:24.15 | disposable_ | Eno_: crap, i remember reading a really long review with lots of examples of how to use it. just dont remember where. pretty cool tricks can be done with it. |
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| 00:24.20 | vin` | Eno_: hands raised, head in the middle. |
| 00:24.28 | Eno_ | Hehe. |
| 00:25.12 | AMD_ | I just installed Sarge...how would I go about upgrading to KDE 3.5? Does it _require_ me to first dist-upgrade to sid? |
| 00:25.23 | Goat25 | anyone know what pkg the program "dig" is in? |
| 00:25.32 | Wyzard | Goat25: dnsutils, I believe |
| 00:25.35 | bltzfsck | i finally got my printer to do .jpgs (using xpp) but still cant get a basic text file to print |
| 00:25.38 | Goat25 | thanks |
| 00:25.50 | SoloFlyer | AMD you can use apt pinning |
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| 00:26.04 | AMD_ | SoloFlyer: please explain :) |
| 00:26.07 | zimm | vin`, apparently people have had problems with lilo/grub not dealing well with dual booting linux + embedded media player + winxp |
| 00:26.08 | SoloFlyer | but it would be suggested to upgrade to starge |
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| 00:26.14 | SoloFlyer | sid |
| 00:26.19 | disposable_ | Goat25: dns-browse? |
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| 00:26.41 | vin` | zimm: http://www.drechsler-soft.de/de/linux/qosmio_en.php for suse, but you'll get a general idea. |
| 00:26.54 | zimm | :) |
| 00:27.04 | Goat25 | dnsutils was it |
| 00:27.21 | AMD_ | SoloFlyer: that's what I thought (about ugrading to sid first). -- Thanks |
| 00:27.57 | AMD_ | another question, whenever i put focus on a text box, how can I make it so that the entire string in the box gets selected? Rather than just putting the cursor at the current mouse position? |
| 00:27.58 | xiaogil | how to show the line n of a text file ? |
| 00:27.59 | disposable_ | AMD_: i wouldnt really call switching to sid "upgrading" :) |
| 00:28.09 | SoloFlyer | AMD you can run unstable/testing packages within stable but you can end up having problems |
| 00:28.22 | AMD_ | disposable_: well, you get the point =) |
| 00:28.47 | AMD_ | SoloFlyer: yea, what I was afraid of. So basically if i don't go to sid I'm stuck with whatever kde stuff is 'stable'? ;( |
| 00:28.47 | moprilo | a quick Q, in what file should i put the mount command so it is mounts when debian starts..? |
| 00:29.18 | azeem | moprilo: /etc/fstab controls that, probably |
| 00:29.25 | cisse | moprilo: /etc/fstab but you don't need the mount command |
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| 00:29.34 | n00bhead | AMD_ question is do you need kde 3.51? do you need experimental transparency? OR u wnt a stable system ;) |
| 00:29.37 | disposable_ | AMD_: compile it from scratch link it to whatever you want ;) |
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| 00:30.06 | AMD_ | n00bhead: it's not that i 'need' 3.5, it's just that i 'want' it :) |
| 00:30.07 | Garda | have there been alot of spambots here lately |
| 00:30.20 | AMD_ | disposable_: heh, that's now the debian way :) |
| 00:30.24 | AMD_ | s/now/not |
| 00:30.35 | n00bhead | well use kanotix ;) |
| 00:30.38 | n00bhead | <-- no bot ;) |
| 00:30.46 | disposable_ | AMD_: use checkinstall if you must :) |
| 00:30.46 | moprilo | don't need the mount command |
| 00:30.47 | moprilo | ? |
| 00:31.02 | SoloFlyer | AMD if you want to use kde 3.5 and have very stable system with security updates use testing dist with kdebase from unstable |
| 00:31.18 | vin` | moprilo: man fstab; man mount |
| 00:31.18 | moprilo | i see |
| 00:31.22 | moprilo | thanks |
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| 00:32.19 | AMD_ | SoloFlyer: that would work too...what's testing? sid=unstable, sarge=stable, testing=? |
| 00:32.19 | avar | how would I configure my machine to use the ip 192.168.1.2 with .1 as its gateway? I have auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet static\n\taddress 192.168.1.2\n\tnetmask 255.255.255.0 in /etc/network/interfaces, and that should work for the IP part |
| 00:32.20 | disposable_ | who started the three debian branches? murdock or perens? |
| 00:32.47 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | 14 cds for downloading debian? do I need all of that? |
| 00:32.55 | cisse | avar: you can use 'gateway 192.168.1.1' in that same file |
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| 00:33.05 | cisse | Dr_Amr_Gameel: get the netinstall cd and download the packages you want |
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| 00:33.15 | avar | cisee: under the iface eth0 line? |
| 00:33.23 | cisse | avar: yep below netmask |
| 00:33.23 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | cisse : ok |
| 00:33.44 | SoloFlyer | sarge/stable=(most stable gets security updates) etch/testing=(still pretty dam stable gets security updates) sid/unstable=(stable as most other distros) experimental=(are you a masochist?) |
| 00:33.50 | disposable_ | Dr_Amr_Gameel: you don't you will rarely need anything beyond the 7th cd. most used packages are on the 1st cd, least used on the last. |
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| 00:34.06 | m1ke_l | [asdfasdfadfdfdff T |
| 00:34.18 | m1ke_l | [asdfasdfadfdfdff Tfefewgrgergrggr |
| 00:34.31 | AMD_ | SoloFlyer: that's it... ETCH! :) |
| 00:34.34 | m1ke_l | sorry!! |
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| 00:34.38 | AMD_ | couldn't think of that name |
| 00:34.44 | vin` | Dr_Amr_Gameel: if your network's good, try the ~100MB netinstaller. |
| 00:34.47 | m1ke_l | i was in AA and keyboard was here for some reason. |
| 00:34.49 | m1ke_l | weird. |
| 00:35.06 | avar | what init script brings up the net via the interfaces config? |
| 00:35.21 | avar | ifupdown? |
| 00:35.22 | SoloFlyer | AMD_, http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 00:35.29 | nsingh | /etc/init.d/networking |
| 00:35.31 | liable | avar: networking |
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| 00:35.50 | AMD_ | SoloFlyer: thanks |
| 00:36.11 | AMD_ | SoloFlyer: might do that on a 'test' box :) |
| 00:36.21 | magyar | how can i kill this process? "13062 ? Zl 2:19 [xmms] <defunct>" |
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| 00:36.32 | Dr_Amr_Gameel | vin' : ok, but if I install a standard system - if that option exists, how much space I'm about to need? |
| 00:36.46 | SoloFlyer | AMD_, Have fun :) |
| 00:37.08 | disposable_ | magyar: kill -9 $(pidof xmms) |
| 00:37.27 | liable | its a zombie.. |
| 00:37.36 | vin` | Dr_Amr_Gameel: that depends on your use and how much space you have. |
| 00:37.41 | magyar | disposable_, still there, it just wond die |
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| 00:39.11 | disposable_ | magyar: let me know if you figure out. i usually do ctrl+alt+bksp :( |
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| 00:39.48 | magyar | linux is becoming more and more stable |
| 00:39.48 | junix | for some reason i cabn't view anything using apache 1.3.33 anymore |
| 00:39.53 | junix | could someone help? |
| 00:39.59 | dryan | does anyone why i get the following message when trying to install python-dev |
| 00:40.01 | dryan | The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-dev: Depends: python2.3-dev (>= 2.3.5-1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 00:40.28 | xiaogil | how to put the result of a bash command into a variable ? |
| 00:40.58 | disposable_ | junix: you are likely to get an answer equal to your question. you might want to rephrase it |
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| 00:42.12 | junix | ok |
| 00:42.23 | Supaplex | xiaogil: i=`uptime` ; echo $i $i $i $i |
| 00:42.30 | AMD_ | why is it that when i try to do something such as: apt-get remove kppp, it wants to remove kde with it? kde shouldn't depend on kppp |
| 00:43.14 | disposable_ | AMD_: that is why i have solitaire on my computer :) (the gnome AND kde version) |
| 00:43.24 | junix | disposable_: i am having a problem accessing my web server, i keep getting Forbidden on EVERYTHING |
| 00:43.48 | nevyn | AMD_: the problem is what is kde? |
| 00:43.52 | nevyn | is kjots part of kde? |
| 00:44.04 | liable | kde is a meta package |
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| 00:44.35 | magyar | disposable_, http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/11-2004/12560.html |
| 00:44.39 | AMD_ | nevyn: yea, i want to remove kppp, but apt-get remove wants to take kde with it :( |
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| 00:45.27 | bonez39 | anyone using OO2 know if the Thesaurus or Help files are available yet, for sarge? |
| 00:45.34 | nevyn | AMD_: removing the "kde package isn't really a problem |
| 00:45.48 | nevyn | (unless you're usnig Auto in aptitude) |
| 00:45.55 | AMD_ | nevyn: huh? if kde gets removed i sorta will be without kde? |
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| 00:46.06 | disposable_ | magyar: thanx :) |
| 00:46.13 | Unity | i need to get my computer to share its printer quickly, i already have cupsd listening on 631, now how do i make windows print to it? |
| 00:46.38 | junix | i am having a problem accessing my web server, i keep getting Forbidden on EVERYTHING |
| 00:47.30 | Supaplex | junix: what's the error log say? (don't paste) |
| 00:48.11 | bonez39 | Unity, still needing help? |
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| 00:50.39 | junix | Supaplex: http://pastebin.com/547652 |
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| 00:52.04 | Gnurdux | it stopped freezing |
| 00:52.04 | Gnurdux | dunno why |
| 00:52.04 | Gnurdux | but im not complaining :) |
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| 00:52.45 | Unity | bonez39: yes, and i couldn't recieve that file from you either |
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| 00:54.49 | Supaplex | junix: that's all normal. either this is the wrong log, or your log level is too low. |
| 00:55.13 | jml6 | hey can anyone find a link for kernel-headers-2.6.15-1-686? |
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| 00:55.42 | liable | jml6: linux-headers.. |
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| 00:57.30 | jml6 | thanks liable! i always get confused with the changing name conventions... |
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| 00:58.12 | junix | my logllevel is set to warn.... |
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| 01:00.01 | junix | Supaplex: my log level is set to warn.... |
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| 01:00.39 | m1ke_l | is there any way to launch apps on another screen like ctl-atl-f8 ? |
| 01:01.07 | beardy | m1ke_l: What program? |
| 01:01.13 | Agrajag- | DISPLAY=:1 whateverapp |
| 01:01.15 | m1ke_l | games particularly |
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| 01:01.26 | Agrajag- | where :1 is whatever display you want |
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| 01:01.32 | m1ke_l | cool...tanks |
| 01:01.42 | sifi-xz | lol: http://www.stallman.org/saint.html |
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| 01:04.22 | xiaogil | is it possible to wget a page into a bash variable ? |
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| 01:08.00 | NaufraGo | which is the best program to download music, videos, etc. for debian? |
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| 01:08.44 | Phated | wget? |
| 01:09.25 | Unity | NaufraGo: azureus |
| 01:09.28 | magyar | dircolors: no SHELL environment variable, and no shell type option given |
| 01:09.31 | magyar | when i sudo |
| 01:09.45 | De_Mon | aptitude install asterisk/unstable and asterisk/etch both say package "asterisk" can't be found in archive "foo" |
| 01:11.00 | De_Mon | ok.. I edited sources.list and s/sarge/stable/;s/etch/unstable/ and it works |
| 01:11.02 | tyranix | xiaogil: umm why would you want to do that? |
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| 01:11.20 | De_Mon | why wouldn't aptitude install asterisk/etch work though! |
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| 01:12.25 | NaufraGo | azureus, nothing else? |
| 01:12.53 | DB7654321 | What all do I need to do to change a system's hostname? I see no difference in the hostname displayed at the bash prompt after changing /etc/hostname and logging in again. What else do I need to do? |
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| 01:13.41 | De_Mon | DB7654321 hostname -f /etc/hostname |
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| 01:14.12 | De_Mon | DB7654321 or invoke-rc.d hostname.sh start |
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| 01:14.39 | DB7654321 | De_Mon: Thanks. That did it |
| 01:14.59 | NaufraGo | mm.. I don't like BitTorrent... |
| 01:15.11 | De_Mon | NaufraGo welcome to the minority |
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| 01:15.19 | NaufraGo | hehe |
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| 01:15.36 | NaufraGo | is there any better program? |
| 01:15.48 | DB7654321 | links-ssl |
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| 01:16.24 | jugglinx | NaufraGo, did u try ktorrent? |
| 01:16.24 | sigma | sftp |
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| 01:16.38 | NaufraGo | I didn't |
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| 01:16.47 | jugglinx | it s pretty new, and it have a searh engine... |
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| 01:17.07 | magyar | Defaults env_reset |
| 01:17.13 | magyar | ^^ for the above error |
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| 01:17.16 | NaufraGo | what about emule? |
| 01:17.23 | NaufraGo | or something like that? |
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| 01:18.04 | jugglinx | there s lot of that ones... but i like torrents.. |
| 01:18.18 | DB7654321 | valknut |
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| 01:19.25 | zimm | laters all... |
| 01:19.27 | NaufraGo | have you tried lmule? |
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| 01:23.57 | jml6 | ok, i just upgraded to 2.6.15, how can I get rid of my old kernel? is there a quick way to remove the old kernel's entry from grub? |
| 01:24.48 | NaufraGo | hey |
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| 01:24.54 | NaufraGo | I've installed VLC |
| 01:24.56 | citricoder | hill all |
| 01:25.04 | NaufraGo | but its sound doesn't work |
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| 01:25.15 | NaufraGo | so |
| 01:25.16 | citricoder | I'm installeng sarge on a old pentium-I |
| 01:25.22 | citricoder | I get an error |
| 01:25.32 | NaufraGo | I installed ALSA |
| 01:25.37 | forger | tengo problemas con la instalacion |
| 01:25.39 | NaufraGo | and I couldn't configure it |
| 01:25.42 | forger | me pueden ayudar |
| 01:25.43 | citricoder | "umount: /target/dev/pts: Invalid argument" |
| 01:25.48 | NaufraGo | so I removed it |
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| 01:26.18 | patofeo | forger: Please, speack English.. For "spannish", enter in #debian-es |
| 01:26.26 | citricoder | agaig & again the same error, with "linux26", and with "linux" installation |
| 01:26.32 | citricoder | wat's wrong? |
| 01:26.57 | NaufraGo | and now VCL continueous without working |
| 01:27.13 | NaufraGo | can anybody help me? |
| 01:27.28 | mfrisch | vlc...? |
| 01:27.35 | NaufraGo | yes |
| 01:27.43 | mfrisch | whats it not doing |
| 01:27.59 | NaufraGo | the audio isn't working |
| 01:28.20 | mfrisch | and does the audio work otherwise?? |
| 01:28.36 | NaufraGo | yes |
| 01:28.48 | mfrisch | alsa? |
| 01:28.51 | NaufraGo | I'm listening to music by amaroK |
| 01:28.51 | citricoder | I get this error installing sarge.... |
| 01:28.52 | citricoder | "umount /target/dev/pts: no such file or directory |
| 01:28.54 | NaufraGo | no.. |
| 01:29.00 | NaufraGo | I removed ALSA |
| 01:29.09 | NaufraGo | because I couldn't configure it |
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| 01:29.56 | NaufraGo | currently, the system's audio is ok |
| 01:30.02 | mfrisch | unless you have a good reason. I would stick with alsa. What card is it, did you run alsaconf as root? |
| 01:30.04 | NaufraGo | and I can listen to music |
| 01:30.19 | NaufraGo | yes I did |
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| 01:30.33 | Gremly | la_bb |
| 01:30.35 | Gremly | jeje |
| 01:30.38 | Gremly | estas aqui |
| 01:30.41 | Gremly | :D |
| 01:30.46 | Gremly | ves lo q te decia? |
| 01:30.54 | GutterPunk | argh |
| 01:30.56 | la_bb | holaaaaaa |
| 01:30.57 | NaufraGo | VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video (rev 01) |
| 01:30.57 | Gnea | !es |
| 01:30.57 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 01:30.57 | la_bb | :P |
| 01:31.11 | Gremly | lo que pasa q aqui ablan en cualquier idioma |
| 01:31.16 | citricoder | jajaj |
| 01:31.18 | la_bb | joer |
| 01:31.19 | Gremly | pero era pa ke vieras la de gente q ahi |
| 01:31.21 | Gnea | !english |
| 01:31.22 | dpkg | english is, like, a language spoken by guys who always write the fscking word: coloUr :), or a loose conglomeration of random words from french, german, and latin, or http://www.unique.cc/ron/estuff.htm or one of the most bastardised languages ever, borrowing from all over the world, or english, motherfucker, do you speak it? or ALL YOUR WORD ARE BELONG TO US!! |
| 01:31.29 | mfrisch | if you must use oss then; change sound settings in vlc to use the device on your system |
| 01:31.47 | la_bb | ke pecha de ente illoo |
| 01:31.49 | la_bb | :P |
| 01:31.56 | Gremly | ya ves |
| 01:31.57 | Gremly | :D |
| 01:32.01 | citricoder | La instalacion de sarge me da un puto error |
| 01:32.04 | citricoder | "umount /target/dev/pts: no such file or directory" |
| 01:32.06 | Gnea | Gremly, la_bb, citricoder: this is an english speaking channel, please respect that. |
| 01:32.15 | wwpwwp | ---Installation on B&W Debian 3.0rev1 help --- on second stage booting, the screen stops at "EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode"... what do I do? |
| 01:32.25 | la_bb | ke dice ese de mi gremly |
| 01:32.30 | Gremly | nos van a echar por ablar en castellano |
| 01:32.36 | Gnea | wwpwwp: with which kernel? |
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| 01:32.38 | la_bb | jaja |
| 01:32.44 | citricoder | pos que faxa |
| 01:33.02 | la_bb | anda ke voy a dura meno ke una pompa de jabon |
| 01:33.11 | Gremly | :D |
| 01:33.15 | wwpwwp | Gnea -- I don't know, I download the netinstall (powerpc) iso image from www.debian.org |
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| 01:33.29 | la_bb | aki tmb ay moderador?? |
| 01:33.36 | Gnea | wwpwwp: is there a linux26 boot option? |
| 01:33.36 | Gremly | si ahi 2 |
| 01:33.41 | Gnea | !ppc |
| 01:33.41 | dpkg | rumour has it, ppc is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc, or not going to be used by Apple much longer |
| 01:33.43 | Gremly | y 800 participante |
| 01:33.50 | Gremly | :D |
| 01:33.50 | la_bb | noveeeeeeee |
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| 01:33.54 | Gnea | !tell Gremly about es |
| 01:34.03 | Gnea | !tell la_bb about es |
| 01:34.16 | Gnea | !tell citricoder about es |
| 01:34.19 | wwpwwp | Gnea- on the yaboot, when I tabbed, it showed "Linux" and "Old" two options of kernel |
| 01:34.23 | la_bb | uy |
| 01:34.27 | Gremly | la_bb vamos a debian-es te digo por el canal linux |
| 01:34.27 | la_bb | no me entero |
| 01:34.41 | Gremly | no ables castellano aqui q estamos molestando |
| 01:34.41 | la_bb | ok |
| 01:34.43 | Gremly | sorry |
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| 01:36.54 | casoft | Holaq? |
| 01:37.02 | m1ke_l | hiq? |
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| 01:37.10 | liable | english |
| 01:37.11 | casoft | hola wa todos |
| 01:37.21 | casoft | only speak english? |
| 01:37.23 | poli | spanish night on #debian I suppose |
| 01:37.27 | m1ke_l | hello to your toads, too. |
| 01:37.33 | poli | lol |
| 01:37.34 | casoft | Gremly? |
| 01:38.07 | m1ke_l | is there a point to running fluxbox, then launching kde? |
| 01:38.15 | m1ke_l | also, does kwin start if you do that? |
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| 01:38.51 | poli | m1ke_l: I wouldn't do that myself, but yet, there are strange people out there. |
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| 01:39.25 | m1ke_l | do you get fluxbox control of kde app windows then? |
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| 01:39.40 | _slash | hey guys |
| 01:40.00 | _slash | how do I check what packages/application had been install on my debian? |
| 01:40.11 | m1ke_l | dpkg -l |
| 01:40.15 | m1ke_l | thats an LLLLL |
| 01:40.16 | _slash | and how do I install gtk/atk/pango from apt-get ? |
| 01:40.33 | poli | _slash: you might want to get a higerlevel view using aptitude |
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| 01:40.35 | m1ke_l | apt-get search gtk? |
| 01:40.36 | wwpwwp | ---Installation on B&W G3 help --- on second stage booting, the screen stops at "EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode"... what do I do? --- I used the following iso for installation -- debian-31r1a-powerpc-netinst.iso (from www.debian.org)-- |
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| 01:41.08 | Miesco | Is there any svgalib word processers? |
| 01:41.13 | _slash | invalid operation search |
| 01:41.24 | poli | _slash: apt-cache search gtk |
| 01:41.37 | stew | wwpwwp: ask in #debianppc if you haven't already |
| 01:41.57 | m1ke_l | sorry...fast typing. |
| 01:42.20 | wwpwwp | stew-- thanks! |
| 01:42.43 | fas3r | anybody know if pppoe restart ppp0 connection when it arrive at 24h or if connection was interrupt ? |
| 01:42.51 | citricoder | what the hell I get this installing sarge? |
| 01:42.52 | citricoder | unmount: /target/dev/pts: No such file or directory |
| 01:42.52 | citricoder | unmount: /target/dev/shm: No such file or directory |
| 01:42.52 | citricoder | unmount: /target/proc/bus/usb: Invalid argument |
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| 01:43.51 | _slash | ah.. finnaly :) |
| 01:43.54 | _slash | thank you :\ |
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| 01:47.07 | liable | !tell jml6 about away |
| 01:47.46 | sam_ | other than gnome-settings-daemon and xfce4-mcs-manager, are there any other programs that can do the same job as those? |
| 01:47.57 | sam_ | (tell gtk apps how to behave) |
| 01:47.58 | junix | Supaplex: my log level is set to warn.... |
| 01:48.37 | mfrisch | sam_: xfce |
| 01:48.47 | sam_ | (hey, i mentioned that one already) |
| 01:48.56 | mfrisch | sorry |
| 01:48.59 | sam_ | i'm on sarge, looking for xfce4.2 debs |
| 01:49.26 | sam_ | finding, almost. the debian-desktop project has a stack of those debs which would be great if the sources.list line on their wiki were correct |
| 01:50.00 | mfrisch | sam goto apt-get.org and search for a backport is my only suggestion |
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| 01:51.26 | junix | i am having a problem accessing my web server, i keep getting Forbidden on EVERYTHING |
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| 01:53.16 | sam_ | wee |
| 01:53.17 | sam_ | rad |
| 01:53.22 | sam_ | (typo) |
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| 01:54.10 | nrdb | can anyone help? I have a LAN with a DHCP/named server running, the remotes can ping by name (e.g. ping compaq) but the server can't. |
| 01:54.17 | SleyderZero | mmmmmmm |
| 01:54.31 | SleyderZero | necesitom ayuda para instalr Kopete |
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| 01:54.59 | sigma | junix: chmod 755 on DocumandRoot? |
| 01:55.09 | Ripcord | hello everyone |
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| 01:55.37 | Ripcord | is anyone in the mood to humor a complete noob? |
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| 01:56.09 | poli | dpk tell Ripcord about ask |
| 01:56.20 | sigma | !ask |
| 01:56.20 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 01:56.47 | AM|R | i got this error Starting web server: apache failed |
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| 01:56.55 | Edamorphus | is there a way to encode a whole directory of ogg files into mp3 with lame? |
| 01:56.57 | AM|R | can someone helps me |
| 01:57.10 | sandman | Is it okay to reinstall the running kernle? |
| 01:57.21 | sigma | AM|R: /var/log/apache/error.log |
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| 01:57.27 | junix | sigma: so chmod 755 /var/www |
| 01:57.48 | Jake | is there something missing in the standard debian kernel that would stop an external modem from working? im not getting any response from it on /dev/ttyS1,2 |
| 01:57.51 | poli | sandman: once the kernel is all in RAM, should be, yes. But... I can't tel for sure. |
| 01:58.05 | Ripcord | I am running Debian Sarge, on an IBM Thinkpad 600x. I get a default console resolution of 640x480? I would like to use 1024x768 so it doesn't appear windowed. I believe this is vga mode 791? |
| 01:58.09 | sigma | junix: maybe, depends on your config. what says error.log? |
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| 01:58.13 | t35t0r | anyone tried the new ati-drivers 8.22.5? does it fix freezing on logout? |
| 01:58.26 | fas3r | anybody know if pppoe restart ppp0 connection when it arrive at 24h or if connection was interrupt ? |
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| 01:58.39 | junix | sigma: http://pastebin.com/547652 |
| 01:58.41 | nrdb | Jake have you tried using something like minicom to see if the modem is responding to things like 'AT' |
| 01:58.44 | AM|R | sigma |
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| 01:58.55 | AM|R | sendmail: warning: premature end-of-input on /usr/sbin/postdrop -r while reading input attribute name |
| 01:59.02 | AM|R | sendmail: fatal: www-data(33): Error writing message file |
| 01:59.17 | AM|R | [Fri Feb 10 09:42:31 2006] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart |
| 01:59.20 | Jake | nrdb, yeah, its behaving strangley... its not giving me anything - and i cant see the chars i am typing either .. on any of the /dev/ttyS |
| 01:59.35 | sigma | junix: that shuld tell me what? |
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| 01:59.50 | poli | Jake: check dmesg ans see if the kernel recognizes your Serial ports. |
| 02:00.01 | Ripcord | IOW - how do I change the default console resolution? |
| 02:00.02 | nrdb | Jake: check the cable, don't use a NULL modem cable. |
| 02:00.13 | Jake | poli, i did a dmesg and grepd for "ttyS" and found nothing |
| 02:00.20 | Jake | nrdb, its the cabel that came with the modem |
| 02:00.42 | AM|R | that are the message for a few last line in /var/log/apache/error.log |
| 02:00.47 | junix | what the error log says |
| 02:00.56 | Edamorphus | is there a way to encode a whole directory of ogg files into mp3 with lame? |
| 02:00.58 | poli | Jake: seach for serial |
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| 02:01.17 | Jake | poli, nothing :(!!! |
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| 02:01.36 | poli | Jake: check your BIOS and make sure serial ports are enabled. |
| 02:01.56 | Jake | poli, ok ty - ill try now |
| 02:02.01 | poli | Jake: but before that sweep your dmesg and see if you find something... |
| 02:02.06 | AM|R | can someone helps me regarding my apache problem |
| 02:02.22 | sandman | nonroot users can safely run debsums, right? |
| 02:02.26 | junix | sigma: ? |
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| 02:03.17 | poli | AM|R: Give us all the information you can when you ask, preferably at once, so we can answer promptly. What does your log file say? (DOn't paste it! Just the line if there is one) |
| 02:03.30 | sandman | Using prelink -a will break debsums, eys? |
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| 02:03.32 | sandman | yes, rather. |
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| 02:04.14 | poli | AM|R: Notice that junix asked you what your log file says right after your previous line and you did not reply... |
| 02:04.28 | Ripcord | do I configure the default console resolution in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? |
| 02:04.30 | AM|R | sendmail: fatal: www-data(33): Error writing message file |
| 02:04.30 | AM|R | [Fri Feb 10 09:42:31 2006] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart |
| 02:04.34 | AM|R | the last line |
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| 02:04.44 | AM|R | when i restart the /etc/init.d/apache |
| 02:04.55 | AM|R | seem no errors was record |
| 02:05.06 | poli | sendmail? |
| 02:05.22 | AM|R | debian:/etc/apache# /etc/init.d/apache start |
| 02:05.22 | AM|R | Starting web server: apache failed |
| 02:05.58 | junix | poli: i asked sigma |
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| 02:06.13 | zinx | AM|R: df -hP |
| 02:06.15 | abrocadabro | AM|R: see the apache logs |
| 02:06.23 | poli | junix: Oh, I thought you asked him at the time, so I just stand waiting his reply. |
| 02:06.30 | Ripcord | do I configure the default console resolution in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? - If so what do I add to set it to 1024x768 ? |
| 02:07.02 | AM|R | /dev/sda2 28G 3.5G 23G 14% / |
| 02:07.12 | AM|R | tmpfs 126M 0 126M 0% /dev/shm |
| 02:07.19 | AM|R | /dev/sda1 45M 18M 25M 42% /boot |
| 02:07.24 | abrocadabro | Ripcord: append vga=773 I think to you kernel line, check on google |
| 02:07.25 | nrdb | Ripcord: you configure the X resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 02:07.26 | AM|R | /dev/sda3 45G 42M 43G 1% /var/vmail |
| 02:07.31 | AM|R | zinx |
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| 02:07.35 | poli | AM|R: Please the /var/log/apache/error.log file |
| 02:07.53 | Ripcord | nrdb: I am not trying to configure the x11 resolution .. this is for console |
| 02:08.01 | poli | Ripcord: you want only the GRUB console to be 1024x768? |
| 02:08.09 | AM|R | poli |
| 02:08.09 | AM|R | sendmail: warning: premature end-of-input on /usr/sbin/postdrop -r while reading input attribute name |
| 02:08.10 | AM|R | sendmail: fatal: www-data(33): Error writing message file |
| 02:08.10 | AM|R | [Fri Feb 10 09:42:31 2006] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart |
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| 02:08.21 | AM|R | ops sorry |
| 02:08.24 | AM|R | the last line |
| 02:08.28 | AM|R | only appear this |
| 02:08.32 | citricoder | Valencia: 4º C, Foggy |
| 02:08.34 | Ripcord | I have it installed on a laptop with a native resolution of 1024x768 |
| 02:08.34 | AM|R | [Fri Feb 10 09:42:31 2006] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart |
| 02:08.44 | AM|R | and no more logs were write |
| 02:08.45 | poli | AM|R: That makes little sense for me, AM|R. |
| 02:08.59 | abrocadabro | Ripcord: put that line in your menu.lst, append it after the kernel parameter |
| 02:09.02 | nrdb | Ripcord: ok, don't know but console resolutions are in characters not pixels. |
| 02:09.06 | AM|R | poli you have any idea? |
| 02:09.29 | Ripcord | Abrocadabro : vga= ??? for 1024x768 |
| 02:09.37 | ne0futur | AM|R: attacks ? |
| 02:09.49 | AM|R | ne0futur |
| 02:09.52 | AM|R | my apache |
| 02:09.53 | poli | AM|R: use a paste bin and paste about the 30 last lines of the file there, then show us the link |
| 02:09.57 | AM|R | could restart |
| 02:09.58 | poli | dpkg tell AM|R about paste |
| 02:10.03 | AM|R | ok |
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| 02:10.21 | abrocadabro | AM|R: rm -fr /var/log/apache/error.log, then touch error.log and tail -f /var/log/apache/error.log and /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 02:10.30 | Miesco | Without X server, what can I use for word processing? |
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| 02:10.52 | poli | Miesco: I use emacs + latex a LOT |
| 02:11.07 | abrocadabro | Ripcord: if I remembered right, check the number on google |
| 02:11.07 | poli | Miesco: and it gets really much better than WYSIWYG :) |
| 02:11.57 | abrocadabro | vga=773 correct, |
| 02:12.07 | Ripcord | Ok i just added vga=791 in menu.lst - I get an Error 27 : unrecognized command |
| 02:12.10 | NaufraGo | hey.. |
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| 02:12.21 | NaufraGo | I can't configure alsa |
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| 02:12.28 | abrocadabro | Ripcord: where did you put it? |
| 02:12.30 | AM|R | poli |
| 02:12.33 | AM|R | http://amir.psr.org.my/error.log |
| 02:12.39 | NaufraGo | is says: No supported PnP or PCI card found. |
| 02:12.40 | ALEX03 | any good hacker wanna make good money |
| 02:12.41 | Ripcord | I put it after the kernel command |
| 02:12.45 | nrdb | Ripcord: if you have a LiveCD like Knoppix you can experiment easier. |
| 02:13.03 | abrocadabro | could you paste the entire line, just one line |
| 02:13.10 | Ripcord | ? |
| 02:13.17 | NaufraGo | can anybody help me? |
| 02:14.02 | AM|R | amir.psr.org.my/error.log |
| 02:14.11 | AM|R | abrocadabro |
| 02:14.11 | abrocadabro | Ripcord: something like this /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro single vga=773 |
| 02:14.14 | AM|R | already do that |
| 02:14.18 | AM|R | but still cant |
| 02:14.20 | Ripcord | my menu.lst has a line "kernel /bootvmlinuz-2.4.27-2-386 root=/dev/hda ro |
| 02:14.24 | ALEX03 | any hacker wanna make good $$$ |
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| 02:14.36 | NaufraGo | can anybody help me? |
| 02:14.41 | zinx | ALEX: no. |
| 02:14.52 | AM|R | i restart the apache |
| 02:14.56 | Ripcord | i added vga=773 to line below it ... and I get the error 27 message |
| 02:15.02 | AM|R | but nothing is write on error.log |
| 02:15.09 | DB7654321 | I just installed apache and phpmyadmin on a fresh install of sarge, and am having some problems... The php engine doesn't appear to be working in the phpmyadmin dir. My browser downloads php source rather than loading the page. What should I check first? |
| 02:15.12 | abrocadabro | on the same line, append to it |
| 02:15.28 | Ripcord | ahh ok |
| 02:15.31 | NaufraGo | come on. |
| 02:15.42 | abrocadabro | AM|R: your log is spanning across days, make it shorter |
| 02:15.53 | poli | DB7654321: did you install phpmyadmin using apt or something alike? |
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| 02:16.13 | abrocadabro | NaufraGo: just ask what you wan to do or what error messages you are getting please |
| 02:16.13 | DB7654321 | poli: With apt..the official debian phpmyadmin package |
| 02:16.23 | NaufraGo | is says: No supported PnP or PCI card found. !! |
| 02:16.23 | nrdb | AM|R: to me it looks like you might have a config problem with your virtual host setup. |
| 02:16.26 | Eno_ | How can I set up xmms to output audio to a device on another computer? |
| 02:16.31 | poli | abrocadabro: his apache/error.log has sendmail?! errors... |
| 02:16.31 | NaufraGo | it says that |
| 02:16.45 | NaufraGo | when I try to configure alsa |
| 02:16.46 | dondelelcaro | poli: if you're sending mail using sendmail, you may see them there. |
| 02:16.55 | abrocadabro | have you loaded the modules? |
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| 02:17.08 | NaufraGo | how can I do that? |
| 02:17.12 | dondelelcaro | (any CGI that outputs to STDERR has output that ends up in the apache error log) |
| 02:17.12 | AM|R | abrocadabro i already rm the error.log and after touch still not working |
| 02:17.16 | abrocadabro | what card do you have? |
| 02:17.17 | AM|R | im running postfic |
| 02:17.19 | AM|R | postfix |
| 02:17.21 | AM|R | sorry |
| 02:17.22 | poli | dondelelcaro: he can't figure out apache log files... why does he has sendmail installed? |
| 02:17.44 | AM|R | nrdb virtual host setup? |
| 02:17.53 | abrocadabro | AMIR: that won't fix your problem, but make it easier to see what is going on, could you paste the new log up? |
| 02:18.02 | AlinuxOS | hello maybe someone knows howto transform lot .mo files into .po files with one command only ? |
| 02:18.02 | NaufraGo | VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video (rev 01) |
| 02:18.13 | dondelelcaro | poli: it's postfix, not sendmail. |
| 02:18.14 | AM|R | abrocadabro no log .. the error.log is emptu |
| 02:18.23 | AM|R | empty |
| 02:18.32 | AM|R | i already restart the apache |
| 02:18.44 | dondelelcaro | AM|R, poli: you're calling /usr/lib/sendmail (or /usr/sbin/sendmail) because that's what you do to send mail. It doesn't matter which MTA you're using, that's how programs interact with the MTA to send mail. |
| 02:18.45 | AM|R | and the log seem empty after apache restart |
| 02:18.45 | abrocadabro | NaufraGo: excuse me, alsa is for sound |
| 02:18.57 | NaufraGo | oh sorry.. |
| 02:19.08 | NaufraGo | Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) |
| 02:19.30 | AM|R | debian:/etc/apache# grep sendmail * |
| 02:19.30 | AM|R | debian:/etc/apache# |
| 02:19.50 | poli | dondelelcaro: take a look at his log file... seems like the line was really from sendmail, no postfix indication.... |
| 02:20.06 | Eno_ | How do I make audio play on a remote computer? |
| 02:20.13 | AM|R | wemm |
| 02:20.15 | nrdb | I have a problem with my 'named |
| 02:20.20 | AM|R | where can i change it |
| 02:20.21 | NaufraGo | abrocadabro: did you read? |
| 02:20.22 | nrdb | opps |
| 02:20.45 | AM|R | but there are no writing in error.log |
| 02:21.02 | Supaplex | did you restart the daemon since it was recreated? |
| 02:21.06 | AM|R | seem the apache activities are not recorded |
| 02:21.11 | AM|R | yes |
| 02:21.15 | AM|R | many time |
| 02:21.17 | nrdb | I have a problem with my 'named' server I can do remote name lookups (e.g. ping compaq) but I cant do the locally on the server, can anyone help? |
| 02:21.44 | abrocadabro | NaufraGo: type "linux module Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller" in google |
| 02:21.45 | Supaplex | move your configuration to a safe place and reinstall it. compare differences or try a test setup. |
| 02:21.47 | AM|R | # logged here. If you *do* define an error logfile for a <VirtualHost> |
| 02:21.47 | AM|R | ErrorLog /var/log/apache/error.log |
| 02:21.56 | AM|R | i already chmod everything |
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| 02:22.18 | AM|R | -rw-r----- 1 root root 1581223 2006-02-04 18:19 access.log |
| 02:22.18 | AM|R | -rwx--x--x 1 root root 0 2006-02-10 10:13 error.log |
| 02:22.24 | Supaplex | each virtualhost should either not use an explicit error log, or should use its own |
| 02:22.25 | AM|R | 0 in size |
| 02:22.44 | Supaplex | are you sharing error logs between virtual hosts? |
| 02:22.54 | chou-chou | please dont tell me youre running apache as root :) |
| 02:23.02 | nrdb | AM|R: with the error shouldn't it be rwxr-xr-x ? |
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| 02:23.24 | NaufraGo | I see my card in /usr/share/alsa/cards |
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| 02:23.47 | Supaplex | the error log should be 644 or 640 or even 600 depending on how paranoid you are. |
| 02:23.49 | abrocadabro | NaufraGo, lspci |
| 02:23.53 | Ripcord | abrocadabro : Thanks!!! that fixed it! |
| 02:23.58 | Supaplex | not 755 |
| 02:23.59 | NaufraGo | yes.. |
| 02:24.05 | Miesco | poli: Okay I am download latex and emacs... |
| 02:24.05 | abrocadabro | Ripcord: np |
| 02:24.12 | NaufraGo | and there is my card |
| 02:24.24 | poli | Miesco: hum... ok... a little more complicated than that. |
| 02:24.30 | NaufraGo | but, I'm telling you that VIA8233A.conf is in /usr/share/alsa/cards |
| 02:24.39 | poli | Miesco: emacs is a text editor, very good in IMHO. Some like vi better. |
| 02:24.40 | delire | damn udev - randomly shuffling around my network devices. |
| 02:24.42 | NaufraGo | does it help? |
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| 02:25.01 | abrocadabro | NaufraGo" you need to make sure you loaded the module before you do everything else |
| 02:25.10 | Miesco | poli: IMHO? |
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| 02:25.13 | Supaplex | !curse udev for randomly shuffling around delire's network devices. |
| 02:25.13 | dpkg | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, udev for randomly shuffling around delire's network devices.! |
| 02:25.16 | NaufraGo | so |
| 02:25.24 | junix | sigma: ??? |
| 02:25.26 | NaufraGo | how can I load the module? |
| 02:25.37 | junix | Supaplex: can you help me with this apache problem again? |
| 02:25.41 | wwpwwp | ---Installation on B&W G3 help --- on second stage booting, the screen stops at "EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode"... what do I do? --- I used the following iso for installation -- debian-31r1a-powerpc-netinst.iso (from www.debian.org)-- (Is this the right channel to discuss this? I don't get any response from #debianppc) |
| 02:25.58 | abrocadabro | did you do the search on google? the first one came up says exactly what you have to do |
| 02:26.10 | poli | Miesco: hey, everyone has opinions. |
| 02:26.15 | delire | Supaplex: much appreciated. though having made a totem out of peanut butter, stuffed it with rubber goats and burnt it alive to spite the gods of Udev. nought has changed. |
| 02:26.16 | Supaplex | junix: What was your issue? |
| 02:26.16 | abrocadabro | do you have a laptop? |
| 02:26.30 | Supaplex | delire: hehehe :) |
| 02:26.32 | junix | i couldn't access anything on my webserver.... |
| 02:26.33 | poli | Miesco: latex is a text formatter, it gets tagged files (latex tagged files) and converts them to a nice printable text. |
| 02:26.55 | NaufraGo | m |
| 02:26.59 | NaufraGo | I read "lsmod" |
| 02:26.59 | Miesco | poli: What does IMHO stand for? |
| 02:27.06 | Supaplex | !imho |
| 02:27.06 | dpkg | imho, imho is in my humble opinion |
| 02:27.27 | Supaplex | !botsnack |
| 02:27.27 | dpkg | thanks, Supaplex |
| 02:27.51 | Miesco | I know vim though, shoudl I use it instead of emacs? |
| 02:27.56 | poli | Miesco: this emacs/latex combination is NOT WYSIWYG |
| 02:28.05 | Miesco | combination? |
| 02:28.11 | Miesco | WYSIWYG? |
| 02:28.12 | delire | poli: now you will have to explain that acronym. |
| 02:28.20 | poli | "WYSIWYG |
| 02:28.20 | AM|R | done |
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| 02:28.23 | AM|R | thanks |
| 02:28.30 | poli | !WYSIWYG |
| 02:28.30 | dpkg | WYSIWYG means 'what you see is what you get' |
| 02:28.33 | delire | !wysiwyg |
| 02:28.33 | dpkg | WYSIWYG means 'what you see is what you get' |
| 02:28.39 | junix | Supaplex: ?? |
| 02:28.41 | delire | !botsnack |
| 02:28.41 | dpkg | aw, gee, delire |
| 02:28.43 | AM|R | one more question .. can i ask about squirrelmail here? |
| 02:28.49 | Miesco | Okay I get it |
| 02:28.52 | Miesco | Like html? |
| 02:28.54 | NaufraGo | abrocadabro: I typed alsamixer and it says alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 02:28.57 | poli | Miesco: yes! Much like it. |
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| 02:29.16 | Supaplex | junix: cut to the chase and ask your question to the channel. I have no recall what your apache problem was. |
| 02:29.17 | poli | Miesco: you edit the text with emacs (or any other text editor that saves .txt) and then format it with latex. |
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| 02:29.26 | Miesco | K |
| 02:29.27 | abrocadabro | NaufraGo: that's probably you have not loaded the module |
| 02:29.30 | Miesco | Thanks |
| 02:29.36 | NaufraGo | I think so |
| 02:29.37 | junix | i am having a problem accessing my web server, i keep getting Forbidden on EVERYTHING |
| 02:29.46 | NaufraGo | but I don't know how to load the module |
| 02:29.51 | poli | Miesco: you actually make a tagged (like html but different language) text and then "compile" it with latex to generate the printable document. |
| 02:30.05 | NaufraGo | Module Size Used by Not tainted |
| 02:30.06 | NaufraGo | soundcore 3268 0 (autoclean) |
| 02:30.08 | AM|R | one more question .. can i ask about squirrelmail here? |
| 02:30.13 | delire | junix: look for .htaccess files. also check permissions declared in httpd.conf |
| 02:30.13 | NaufraGo | (lsmod) |
| 02:30.21 | poli | Miesco: There is plenty documentation about latex on the web, you have to learn how to format it, though. |
| 02:30.22 | Supaplex | junix: oh yea. did you get better error logs? |
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| 02:30.43 | junix | Supaplex: what should i change my logging level too, its set at warn.... |
| 02:30.51 | Supaplex | by default, the error logs are setup to record why it was forbidden. |
| 02:31.00 | NaufraGo | abrocadabro, can you tell me how to load the module please? |
| 02:31.03 | junix | but they aren't doing that |
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| 02:31.36 | abrocadabro | NaufraGo: you need to find out what is the right module, then modprobe modulename |
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| 02:32.15 | Miesco | poli: Does latex have templates? |
| 02:32.16 | abrocadabro | NaufraGo: apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 02:32.18 | junix | Supaplex: can i change ti to record EVERYTHING? |
| 02:32.20 | Supaplex | junix: warn should be fine. I only have ErrorLog /var/log/apache/error.log in the default virtual host |
| 02:32.42 | poli | Miesco: Yes. And you make make your own. |
| 02:33.06 | poli | Miesco: The learning curve is a bit steep, but you can make virtually any kind of template you want. |
| 02:33.15 | NaufraGo | when I installed alsa, it installed alsa-utils |
| 02:33.44 | abrocadabro | what does alsautil say? |
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| 02:33.47 | owner | hi |
| 02:33.53 | Supaplex | junix: checking my logs, I see things like Permission denied: file permissions deny server access: ... |
| 02:33.53 | owner | anyone use the new enlightenment e17 |
| 02:34.01 | Supaplex | !anyone |
| 02:34.02 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 02:34.16 | Miesco | poli: Wow, you can draw pictures |
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| 02:34.39 | owner | lol |
| 02:34.41 | Miesco | poli: Can you convert a picture to latex? |
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| 02:35.03 | poli | Miesco: but that is rather difficult. You will be much better drawing them somewhere else (like dia or xfig or anything that gets postscript outputs) and import them into the latex document. |
| 02:35.14 | owner | anyone use the new enlightenment e17, because i want to know how you generated your menus |
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| 02:35.39 | poli | Miesco: You can just import postscript images into latex. So, you just convert them to encapsulated postscript and import. |
| 02:36.09 | dondelelcaro | Miesco: you can just \includegraphics{foopicture} |
| 02:36.12 | poli | Miesco: latex produces, once more IMHO, the best looking texts. |
| 02:36.39 | NaufraGo | post-install snd-via82xx /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-via82xx |
| 02:36.47 | NaufraGo | is in modprobe -c |
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| 02:37.10 | Miesco | How do I exit emacs? |
| 02:37.22 | poli | Miesco: Miesco and you can get them converted (to some point) to HTML, too. Postcript and PDF are the usual ways. |
| 02:37.26 | delire | Miesco: startvim |
| 02:37.35 | poli | Miesco: Ctrl-X Ctrl-C |
| 02:37.36 | delire | that wasn't very helpful.. |
| 02:37.48 | Miesco | delire: startvim? |
| 02:38.10 | poli | Miesco: both emacs and latex have steep learning curves, but once you get to learn them, it is very hard to accept anything else. |
| 02:38.13 | delire | Miesco: a stupid typo that may have otherwise incited an editor war. |
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| 02:38.53 | poli | Miesco: editor wars are much like the holy wars of computer science ;) |
| 02:38.56 | Miesco | poli: I know vim though, emacs is better then vim? Does emacs have syntax highlighting? |
| 02:38.58 | ansong | i'm getting a strange error on a new system running testing: http://pastebin.com/547756 |
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| 02:39.17 | Supaplex | better is subjective |
| 02:39.32 | Miesco | Im getting this package: vim-latexsuite |
| 02:39.50 | abrocadabro | that means the direct you are in or is trying to access doesn't exsit anymore |
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| 02:40.02 | abrocadabro | directory |
| 02:40.05 | poli | Miesco: yes. If I tell you vim or emacs is better, I would start a holy war. You have to see both for yourself and decide which one fits you best. |
| 02:40.25 | Miesco | poli: But what features does emacs have? |
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| 02:40.30 | zebalin7 | ansong: when do you get this error? |
| 02:40.31 | tengulre11 | Happy New Year!! (CHINESE) |
| 02:40.35 | Jake | poli, that worked thank you :) |
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| 02:40.47 | ansong | abrocadabro, well i'm sheepish... |
| 02:40.49 | delire | tengulre11: aren't you a bit late? |
| 02:40.51 | owner | does anyone use e17 in here? |
| 02:40.52 | BlueLaguna | Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! |
| 02:41.04 | BlueLaguna | is there an x11-fonts package I was supposed to install or something? |
| 02:41.07 | dondelelcaro | Miesco: they all have syntax hilighting; emacs probably has more features, but some consider this to be a fault of emacs. |
| 02:41.10 | delire | owner: i'm sure there's an enlightenment channel.. |
| 02:41.25 | owner | but not many ppl in there |
| 02:41.43 | dondelelcaro | Miesco: in the end it ends up being which editor fits your style of working best; whichever one you choose though, you should know enough of the other to open files, edit files, and save files in it. |
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| 02:42.13 | poli | Miesco: emacs is a huge package. You might ask what doesn't emacs ask. |
| 02:42.20 | poli | Miesco: *emacs have |
| 02:42.50 | BlueLaguna | is there at least any way I can search through packages using apt-get? |
| 02:43.00 | Miesco | gnu.org doesn't have a emacs tutorial? |
| 02:43.01 | dondelelcaro | !tell BlueLaguna -about search |
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| 02:43.33 | poli | Jake: Oh the BIOS serial... You are welcome. :) |
| 02:43.34 | dondelelcaro | Miesco: run emacs, and type C-h t |
| 02:43.34 | Vladi | hi, when my ISP goes down which is a DSL pppoe provider pppd stops retrying and my server goes down untill a reboot or restart of pppoe is done is there somehow i can make this retrycounter for pppd infinite so it keeps trying? |
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| 02:43.51 | Jake | poli, yup bingo! thanks |
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| 02:44.10 | Jake | now too work out how to stop hylafax from answering phone calls lol, i dont want it too receive |
| 02:44.14 | poli | Miesco: you can access a tutorial from inside emacs. Crtl-h t |
| 02:44.18 | Zezinho_BiXo_Pap | Whe I run startx I get : xserverrc file not found , I already excute xf86config |
| 02:44.29 | delire | Miesco: if you're comfortable with vim, you might as well stick with it unless you have time and curiosity to spend. vim and emacs are fairly comparable to each other feature wise. vim however tends to make its features less explicit to the user. |
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| 02:46.04 | nephlim | hey guys |
| 02:46.21 | delire | Zezinho_BiXo_Pap: do you have a ~/.xsession or a ~/.xinitrc? |
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| 02:46.45 | Zezinho_BiXo_Pap | I dunno |
| 02:46.54 | nephlim | i'm trying to forward xwindows from debian to darwin (OSX) and it won't let me. it's def a debian problem |
| 02:47.00 | nephlim | know any good how tos |
| 02:47.07 | nephlim | or configs i should look at? |
| 02:47.15 | delire | BlueLaguna: apt-cache search <keyword>; apt-cache search <packagename> |
| 02:47.35 | delire | BlueLaguna: i meant apt-cache show <packagename>.. sorry |
| 02:47.49 | delire | Zezinho_BiXo_Pap: i dunno either |
| 02:48.31 | delire | nephlim: do you have XForwarding enabled? |
| 02:48.40 | Zezinho_BiXo_Pap | How can i Know? |
| 02:48.52 | dvs | Zezinho_BiXo_Pap: ls? |
| 02:49.13 | delire | nephlim: see ~/.ssh/_config and look for "ForwardX11" |
| 02:49.14 | nephlim | delire, not sure, it's a friend's machine. where would i look? |
| 02:49.44 | delire | nephlim: security unconscious OS's tend to allow for X forwarding by default. debian doesn't. |
| 02:49.58 | nephlim | okay. i'll take a look |
| 02:50.07 | BlueLaguna | thanks |
| 02:50.13 | delire | BlueLaguna: np |
| 02:50.21 | BlueLaguna | another question, how do I install .deb packages? |
| 02:50.25 | Miesco | I downloaded vim-latexsuite, how do I use it? |
| 02:50.36 | delire | BlueLaguna: apt-get install <package>; or dpkg -i <package> |
| 02:50.44 | dvs | Miesco: Downloaded from where? |
| 02:50.48 | Miesco | apt-get |
| 02:50.58 | dvs | Miesco: Then it's installed |
| 02:51.22 | delire | BlueLaguna: again, i was unclear (4am here.. sorry). apt-get install <packagename>; or dpkg -i <package.deb> |
| 02:51.27 | nephlim | delire, what folder is that? home user? |
| 02:51.42 | Goat25 | can someone name a popular text mode web browser aside from lynx? |
| 02:51.49 | dvs | Goat25: links |
| 02:51.55 | dondelelcaro | elinks, w3m... |
| 02:52.03 | Supaplex | netcat and less! |
| 02:52.07 | dondelelcaro | the ever popular telnet... |
| 02:52.13 | Goat25 | haha |
| 02:52.17 | dvs | Doh! |
| 02:52.22 | Goat25 | thanks |
| 02:52.26 | Supaplex | GET(1) |
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| 02:52.56 | delire | nephlim: ~/ or /home/`whoami` eg what ever display belonging to the user you are forwarding. |
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| 02:53.38 | Arafangion | How do I run ntop on sarge? |
| 02:53.40 | delire | Goat25: i like w3m alot as with the w3m-img extension you can view images in the term ;) |
| 02:53.51 | Arafangion | $ sudo /etc/init.d/ntop start |
| 02:53.52 | Arafangion | Starting network top daemon: ntop not started. Read /usr/share/doc/ntop/README.Debian. |
| 02:54.04 | Arafangion | ^^^ That happens even when I add the admin password according to that README.Debian file. |
| 02:54.06 | BlueLaguna | ImportError: No module named platform |
| 02:54.09 | BlueLaguna | this is a python app |
| 02:54.28 | delire | nephlim: that make sense? if your friends username is "friend" then /home/friend/.ssh/_config |
| 02:54.39 | nephlim | ah, that makes sense |
| 02:54.44 | delire | nephlim: ;) |
| 02:54.51 | nephlim | thanks mate, i'm gonna try that now |
| 02:55.05 | delire | nephlim: luck. time for z here. |
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| 02:56.52 | delire_z | nephlim: oh, make sure you restart sshd also else changes won't be picked up. |
| 02:57.09 | zebalin7 | Anyone know what FF 1.5 has not reached etch yet? Is there some gtk lib holding up the migration? |
| 02:57.45 | nephlim | okay, it's not seeing that config file though |
| 02:57.54 | nephlim | and ssh and sshd are installed |
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| 02:58.19 | delire_z | nephlim: may be in a systemwide directory.. like /etc/ssh/ssh_config |
| 02:58.27 | nephlim | aah |
| 02:58.29 | stew | !why is firefox not in testing |
| 02:58.30 | dpkg | firefox is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=firefox |
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| 02:59.24 | delire_z | nephlim: obviously that user hasn't used ssh too much yet. |
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| 02:59.40 | nephlim | nope |
| 02:59.44 | nephlim | found it though |
| 02:59.56 | nephlim | thanks for the help |
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| 03:00.08 | delire_z | nephlim: luck. off now else my face will fall off. |
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| 03:05.58 | zebalin7 | stew: thanks. didn't know you folks had such a smart bot. Looks like dbus is holding up the whole works. It will be a hundred years before we see FF 1.5 in etch. Will have to get it from sid or from moz. |
| 03:07.03 | nephlim | how does one restart the sshd |
| 03:07.20 | dvs | nephlim: /etc/init.d/sshd restart |
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| 03:13.03 | nephlim | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.03 | nephlim | backstaff:/etc/ssh# |
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| 03:13.52 | jshriver | How do you enable "large disk support" for scsi drive emulation? |
| 03:14.03 | dvs | nephlim: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 03:14.05 | jshriver | I'm getting this error on a WD 200gig drive in a USB2.0 enclosure |
| 03:14.06 | jshriver | sda: too big for this kernel. |
| 03:14.07 | voxio | evening, any idea why characters in BitchX display as ÚÄ-> in debian whereas on a netbsd machine they appear correctly? |
| 03:14.23 | voxio | i presume its something to do with the charset |
| 03:14.48 | dvs | jshriver: Which kernel? |
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| 03:15.03 | davin | ok |
| 03:15.04 | tengulre11 | nephlim: please reinstall your ssh ? like , apt-get install ssh |
| 03:15.05 | jshriver | 2.6.11.6 |
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| 03:15.56 | jshriver | I have SCSI disk, emulation etc compile.. can use my 8gig drive with it.. but it's chocking on this 200gig |
| 03:15.57 | nephlim | i just did that, it's a fresh install from the internet |
| 03:16.09 | nephlim | apt-get install ssh said it was alreaddy |
| 03:16.10 | davin | How to add a network connection on Ubuntu? There is not ADD button on the network interface. |
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| 03:16.32 | jshriver | can anyone help? |
| 03:16.33 | valdyn | nephlim: /etc/init.d/ssh , not sshd |
| 03:16.40 | zebalin7 | Would this make sense for a new sid install: Use etch net-install and get 'standard' system. boot to command line. edit source.lst to point to unstable. Install x, kde, kdm, and all the stuff? Is there any reason to install kde from etch and then upgrade it? |
| 03:17.21 | davin | How to add a network connection on Ubuntu? There is not ADD button on the network interface. |
| 03:17.27 | userdefined | zebalin7: may want to do apt-get dist-upgrade after editing the sources file ... |
| 03:17.29 | gravity | davin: #ubuntu please |
| 03:17.34 | dvs | !tell davin -about repeat |
| 03:17.49 | zebalin7 | userdefined: yes, of course. you have to build the sid tree. |
| 03:17.52 | valdyn | zebalin7: you would upgrade to sid completely before installing new packages and probably even use the sarge installer |
| 03:18.00 | EdLin | zebalin7: it's best to start from Sarge, because the installer isn't beta. going to sid from there is just as easy as sid from etch |
| 03:18.03 | gravity | zebalin7: That makes perfect sense. That's how I do it, except I install sarge and go straight to sid |
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| 03:19.19 | zebalin7 | Talk to me about sarge. I didn't know there WAS an installer for it. I thought it was gentoo... where you need to keep a 'book' next to you? Does sarge have some kind of ncurses or even text base installer? |
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| 03:19.24 | nephlim | i'm trying to forward x to a darwin machine. i've enabled xforwarding on the debian machine |
| 03:19.26 | zarathustra | hi |
| 03:19.33 | gravity | ... |
| 03:19.34 | nephlim | still no luck |
| 03:19.36 | zarathustra | how do i disable ipv6 ? |
| 03:19.37 | nephlim | any ideas |
| 03:19.43 | EdLin | zebalin7: Debian != gentoo. Debian has always had an installer |
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| 03:20.11 | EdLin | zebalin7: the installer isn't graphical though |
| 03:20.27 | jshriver | what's the largest partition you can have in linux using ext2 or 3? |
| 03:20.29 | Miesco | vim-latexsuite only works with gvim? |
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| 03:21.04 | zebalin7 | EdLin: I don't need visual as long as it has a prompts, etc. Gentoo you have to enter all the commands yourself! Is there a website with a few screen shots of the sarge installer? |
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| 03:21.08 | oldfart | ok, quick question, does irc.debian.org support ssl? if so, what port? |
| 03:21.35 | Supaplex | What's gcc-2.95's -mregnames suppose to do? pass to as? |
| 03:22.03 | dvs | EdLin: Press "ENTER" a couple of times is too difficult. ;-) |
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| 03:23.47 | zebalin7 | gravity: going from sarge to sid means you have to go from xfree to xorg? Is that a problem? |
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| 03:24.07 | gravity | zebalin7: You do have to go from xfree86 to xorg. If there's a problem please let me know about it. |
| 03:24.12 | valdyn | voxio: the character is probably utf-8 while your charset is a one-byte charset |
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| 03:24.30 | zarathustra | how do i disable ipv6 ? |
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| 03:24.55 | zebalin7 | What is advantage of going from sarge to sid as opposed to etch to sid? |
| 03:25.00 | valdyn | zarathustra: blacklist the ipv6 module |
| 03:25.09 | dondelelcaro | zebalin7: doesn't matter |
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| 03:25.22 | zarathustra | valdyn, ok, do you know the name of that module ? |
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| 03:25.25 | gravity | I like to be sure I get a working base, and stable gives me that |
| 03:25.35 | dondelelcaro | zebalin7: although, if you're asking these sorts of questions, you probably are better off running sarge or testing for a while instead of going to sid. |
| 03:25.36 | gravity | But yeah, no real difference. The installer is, as EdLin mentioned, still beta |
| 03:25.41 | valdyn | zarathustra: ipv6 |
| 03:25.54 | zarathustra | hehehe |
| 03:26.38 | zebalin7 | dondelelcaro: I ran sid via kanotix for a long time. I'm not a newbie. And my 'real' distro will be etch. I have a spare partition and wanted to see how debian sid acts.... for fun. Just looking for least painless way to get there. |
| 03:27.12 | jshriver | where do I find large block support in the kernel menu? |
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| 03:27.26 | gravity | God, how I loathe kanotix |
| 03:27.30 | dondelelcaro | gag |
| 03:27.47 | zebalin7 | gravity: I used the etch installer and it worked just fine. Very easy to use. Reminds me of the Slackware installer which is always very easy. |
| 03:27.48 | DavidW2 | Is anyone here a packager for any mozilla related stuff (firefox, thunderbird,...)? |
| 03:27.57 | dondelelcaro | DavidW2: just ask your question |
| 03:28.02 | gravity | zebalin7: That's fine. I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it's beta. |
| 03:28.11 | DavidW2 | dondelelcaro: That is my question, I'd like to discuss packaging ;) |
| 03:28.25 | gravity | That's not your question |
| 03:28.48 | Sonny | hi, I'm installing lm-sensors, I executed "modconf" because they say that I need i2c activated, but I see 3 options what should I choose? |
| 03:28.52 | DavidW2 | wow, you presume to know so much, do gog on... |
| 03:28.58 | dondelelcaro | DavidW2: you presumably have a specific question about the firefox packaging; gravity or I can probably help you with your real question. |
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| 03:30.15 | DavidW2 | Ok, I don't know if it applies to firefox maybe. I would like to know how extensions are packaged for mozilla (I think it applies to anything mozilla) |
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| 03:30.35 | gravity | Have you looked at any of the extensions packages that already exist? |
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| 03:30.44 | dondelelcaro | DavidW2: the best way to figure that out is to download an existing extension and check it out; it's changed a bit from sarge to what is currently done. |
| 03:31.06 | DavidW2 | Well, my main interest was thunderbird, and it looks like the enigmaile extension has not been updated for 1.5 |
| 03:31.14 | dondelelcaro | (and note that you'll have to re-implement the xml buildfile as a makefile as well if you ever want to get it into Debian.) |
| 03:31.47 | NetDC | does there any dhcp server put it's log to mysql |
| 03:31.53 | DavidW2 | I am not really interested so much in making a deb. Even just the manual process. Like there used to be some update-soemthing-chrome script, but this seems to be gone now.. |
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| 03:32.06 | chrome | hmm? |
| 03:32.08 | chrome | oh. |
| 03:32.14 | dondelelcaro | !+info mozilla-enigmail experimental |
| 03:32.15 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 03:32.16 | DavidW2 | chrome: sorry :) |
| 03:32.17 | dpkg | Package 'mozilla-enigmail' does not exist. |
| 03:32.29 | dondelelcaro | !+info mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail experimental |
| 03:32.31 | dpkg | Package 'mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail' does not exist. |
| 03:32.33 | chrome | DavidW2: :) i get it all the time. :) |
| 03:32.57 | DavidW2 | chrome: Yeah, it seems... choose a generic name and let the highlighting begin :) |
| 03:33.16 | chrome | DavidW2: and the beeping! |
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| 03:33.22 | chrome | don't forget the beeping. |
| 03:33.35 | DavidW2 | In particular there's the -register argument and -install-global-extension |
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| 03:33.46 | DavidW2 | chrome: oh yes, must have that (I don't for some reason) |
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| 03:34.42 | aboyousif | hi all .. |
| 03:34.52 | DavidW2 | http://pdo.debian.net/unstable/mail/mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail (but 1.0.7 only, I wonder if they ran into some problem) |
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| 03:35.11 | aboyousif | wanna ask about how to configure the x system on debian |
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| 03:36.24 | SoNiKu | stupid question (i'm used to the redhat way): how do I enable/disable different services for various runlevels? I don't want xdm running in rl2 |
| 03:36.49 | zebalin7 | Curious. When you install etch, tasksel offers you 'standard'. What do you get with that? You can NOT choose it. What do you NOT get if you do? |
| 03:36.53 | Sonny | Do you know what exactly of "i2c" do I need to install lm-sensors? |
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| 03:38.13 | dondelelcaro | SoNiKu: use update-rc.d to remove the start links in the runlevels you don't want xdm to run in |
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| 03:38.31 | le_NEKO | hi |
| 03:38.36 | duxbarak | when i modprobe anything i get " WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/linux-sound-base_noOSS line 58: ignoring bad line starting with 'blacklist' " any one translate that for me? |
| 03:39.02 | le_NEKO | someone had success with installing the fglrx drivers for ati radeon 9250 cards ? |
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| 03:40.11 | elPepo | hi friends |
| 03:40.31 | valdyn | duxbarak: you seem to have a broken file there for whatever reason, reinstall the package. |
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| 03:41.03 | staniel | hi guys - anyone know where the run command thing in the gnome menu went to |
| 03:41.23 | duxbarak | valdyn: linux-sound-base ? or alsa-base, or install oss? |
| 03:41.28 | nephlim | how do i restart sshd |
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| 03:41.45 | valdyn | duxbarak: the package containing your broken file... |
| 03:41.52 | valdyn | !tell duxbarak -about search |
| 03:41.56 | duxbarak | nephlim: killall sshd , sshd |
| 03:42.08 | elPepo | I have a problem, when try to use SSH receive this message: Permission denied (publickey) What can be wrong? |
| 03:42.19 | valdyn | nephlim: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 03:42.32 | jcypher | nephlim: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
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| 03:42.42 | userdefined | elPepo: the ssh server may have been set to not allow password based auth and is rejecting the key your client is providing |
| 03:42.46 | nephlim | and that restarts the daemon? |
| 03:42.46 | elPepo | It doesnt work |
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| 03:42.59 | elPepo | how do I fix that? |
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| 03:43.19 | jcypher | nephlim: yes. |
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| 03:43.29 | elPepo | and why it happens? |
| 03:43.44 | valdyn | elPepo: ask whever setup the remote server? |
| 03:43.45 | mica-hot-girl | hii!! |
| 03:44.04 | userdefined | either have your ssh public keys put into your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 file on the server, or allow password authentication in the sshd_config |
| 03:44.11 | nephlim | okay, thanks |
| 03:44.14 | elPepo | yes the remote server is my own server |
| 03:44.20 | mica-hot-girl | my name is micaela from argentina |
| 03:44.32 | nephlim | it's restarting now, but i still can't get debian to forward X to my darwin machine |
| 03:44.42 | valdyn | !sshx |
| 03:44.43 | dpkg | i guess sshx is Enable X11Forwarding **on the server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
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| 03:45.34 | jcypher | nephlim: X forwarding needs to be enabled in both client and server.. |
| 03:45.38 | nephlim | it is |
| 03:45.49 | nephlim | works fine between both macs |
| 03:46.00 | rredd4 | Help please, when I am in kde or gnome, it takes a long time (about 2 minutes or more) to my home files, or ksirc config settings, plus others. Why? |
| 03:46.37 | rredd4 | it did not do this before |
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| 03:47.37 | jcypher | nephlim: can you login to the linux from the mac? |
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| 03:48.15 | Supaplex | rredd4: sounds like dns is b0ked |
| 03:48.19 | nephlim | yeah, and i can forward from mac to debian |
| 03:49.02 | valdyn | nephlim: did you read what dpkg said? |
| 03:49.02 | rredd4 | Supaplex: as in Domain Name Server? |
| 03:49.10 | jcypher | does the debian have a listening port >6000, say 6010, after you login? |
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| 03:49.58 | nephlim | dpkg? didn't say antything. virgin system install, save for the changes to the sshd_config |
| 03:50.02 | Supaplex | rredd4: yea. actually, I'm thinking your hosts/hostname file. it's not uncommon for your own machine to try to resolve it's own ip. |
| 03:50.04 | nephlim | and the ssh_config |
| 03:50.05 | valdyn | !sshx |
| 03:50.05 | dpkg | from memory, sshx is Enable X11Forwarding **on the server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
| 03:50.33 | rredd4 | Supaplex: i am using pon, with dial up. |
| 03:50.48 | nephlim | hmm |
| 03:50.58 | Supaplex | rredd4: do you notice any difference when online vs offline? |
| 03:50.59 | rredd4 | Supaplex: pppconfig was set to dynamic |
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| 03:51.04 | rredd4 | no |
| 03:51.20 | rredd4 | real slow |
| 03:51.37 | Supaplex | ok, maybe not that.. no idea |
| 03:51.41 | rredd4 | does debian kept temp files? |
| 03:51.42 | dli | does debian kernel support reiserfs4? |
| 03:51.53 | aalex | Someone knows how to make a gnome interface more minimal? i want small window head, etc. |
| 03:51.57 | valdyn | dli: no |
| 03:52.04 | aalex | no? |
| 03:52.06 | raden | shouldnt rlogin --help give you a ton of options |
| 03:52.13 | aalex | just reiserfs3? |
| 03:52.16 | Supaplex | dli: roll your own. /msg dpkg kp |
| 03:52.19 | jcypher | nephlim: the sshd_config is the likely culprit. |
| 03:52.21 | gravity | aalex: Choose an appropriate theme? |
| 03:52.39 | aalex | gravity, so which theme? i guess i can download some more |
| 03:52.58 | rredd4 | Supaplex: does Debian keep temp files from the internet? if so where? |
| 03:53.08 | nephlim | jcypher, but it needs sshd to work right? |
| 03:53.11 | jcypher | nephlim: usually in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 03:53.17 | dli | Supaplex, which kernel source supports reiserfs4? |
| 03:53.47 | valdyn | dli: none in debian |
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| 03:53.53 | gravity | aalex: I don't know of any, so yeah, you'll just have to go hunting for one |
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| 03:54.22 | dowxp | i'm wondering how to deny shell access to a user, in centos there was -s /sbin/nologin ; it doesn't exist in debian. any ideas? |
| 03:54.33 | nephlim | jcypher, if i post the sshd_config to #flood could you take a gander at it? |
| 03:54.38 | gravity | dowxp: Set their login shell to /bin/false? |
| 03:54.39 | valdyn | dowxp: /bin/false |
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| 03:54.49 | jcypher | nephlim: sure. |
| 03:54.52 | dowxp | ; /bin/false denies FTP access. |
| 03:54.53 | nephlim | thanks man |
| 03:54.54 | phreak | rredd4: If you mean deb-files gotten with apt-get and such, then yes. /var/cache/apt/ |
| 03:55.08 | elPepo | fix ssh --> reinstall :) |
| 03:55.28 | elPepo | tnx anyway |
| 03:55.33 | phreak | dowxp: Change so that your ftpd doesn't require a valid shell, or make false a valid shell by adding it to /etc/shells |
| 03:55.48 | dowxp | hrmmm i'll google proftpd. |
| 03:56.04 | tyranix | dli: Debian package kernel-patch-2.6-reiser4 adds support for reiserfs4. But it only applies up to 2.6.12. |
| 03:56.10 | phreak | dowxp: With proftpd, there is a 'RequireValidShell' option |
| 03:56.33 | dowxp | wai thanks :) |
| 03:56.34 | userdefined | dowxp: easiest (and argueably more secure) way is to add to /etc/shells rather than to disable valid shell |
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| 03:56.41 | dowxp | oh |
| 03:56.47 | dowxp | sounds complicated. i will nano it. |
| 03:56.59 | rredd4 | phreak: no, i mean when surfing on the internet, does browsers keep temp files. When I open sirc config, or home files, it is very slow whether on the internet or not. |
| 03:57.02 | phreak | dowxp: echo /bin/fasle >> /etc/shells, not very hard :) |
| 03:57.16 | dli | tyranix, thanks |
| 03:57.19 | tyranix | phreak: that is if you spell it correctly. :) |
| 03:57.26 | rredd4 | phreak: using sarge |
| 03:57.30 | phreak | tyranix: ehm, :P hehe |
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| 03:57.56 | dowxp | hrmm, this /etc/shells is confusing. maybe i should take a course ... |
| 03:57.59 | dowxp | in any case, i added it |
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| 03:58.28 | phreak | rredd4: I don't know what that would have to do with temp files from your browsing etc, but /tmp/ and ~/.yourwebbrowser (liek .mozilla or .firefox perhaps) may be some places to check :) |
| 03:58.43 | rredd4 | k |
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| 04:00.08 | nephlim | so any ideas why it's not working then jcypher ? |
| 04:00.13 | jcypher | nephlim:perhaps you've su-'d to a diff user on the mac before you ssh to the debian? |
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| 04:02.54 | dowxp | maybe you guys could figure this one out: i have an A8N-VM with 4G and 32bit sarge can only see 3g. Bios has been set and many kernel recompiles have taken place .. :| i still sent it off to DC with 4gb in hopes that a new release in the future will allow it to see all 4G :*( |
| 04:02.55 | Ripcord | I just installed apt-spy, how do i find update sources for dist upgrade to etch? |
| 04:02.57 | ledler | hi, does anyone know how to program in VB. |
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| 04:03.39 | nephlim | IT WORKS!!!!!11!!!ONE!!11!!!! |
| 04:03.54 | nephlim | thanks man |
| 04:04.58 | jcypher | nephlim: glad to help. If you want to su and have X display variables still work, do not su -. The '-' picks up a new set of environment variables. |
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| 04:06.56 | dowxp | what is the difference between /bin/sh and /bin/bash? |
| 04:07.57 | elPepo | Is there some way in wich I can use SSH from WindowsPC and use my remote KDE (linux) desktop? |
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| 04:08.18 | Ripcord | elPepo: I use Putty in windows for SSH |
| 04:08.30 | Ripcord | whups misread... |
| 04:08.39 | elPepo | :) |
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| 04:09.37 | jcypher | elPepo: cygwin. |
| 04:09.53 | DB7654321 | elPepo: Perhaps an ssh tunnel to a VNC session on your linux box |
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| 04:10.29 | forle | hello |
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| 04:11.23 | jcypher | elPepo: vnc works too, if you want the whole desktop. Perhaps you just want the kicker, tho. |
| 04:11.37 | zzer | uff campeon mundial de ajedrez en morelia, Oo |
| 04:12.16 | jcypher | elPepo: tunneling with ssh is a good way to go. cygwin has openssh and X. |
| 04:12.31 | forle | ?? |
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| 04:13.09 | elPepo | maybe I am wrong but if I wanna use cygwin I have to download a lot of files (core of linux)? |
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| 04:13.55 | le_NEKO | hi again |
| 04:14.11 | sandman | How do I display everything that displayed @ the console @ boot _exactly_ as it appeared? |
| 04:14.18 | le_NEKO | is someont have idea how to install correctly a RADEON 9250 ? |
| 04:14.21 | sandman | dmesg only displays part, and it appears that /var/log/messages only displays part |
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| 04:14.49 | ledler | 'Converts the number of seats per bus. |
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| 04:15.23 | jcypher | elPepo: yes, but it's all automagic. Any ssh client and X server would do, tho. |
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| 04:16.08 | elPepo | im using only dial-up connection :( |
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| 04:19.17 | nrdb | I have a LAN server running DHCP/DDNS can anyone tell me why on the server I need to use something like '$> ping compaq.localdoman' while on the remotes I can use '$> ping compaq' ? |
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| 04:19.46 | sandman | I'm getting just _loads_ of /proc filesystem errors @ boot with Debian. I've tried 2 different kernels, nothing seems to help. |
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| 04:19.56 | sandman | I also cannot find any sign of it in /var/log |
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| 04:20.00 | sandman | But it does display @ boot |
| 04:20.03 | sandman | What am I doing wrong here? |
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| 04:20.28 | sandman | I want to find the messages. dmesg doesn't display the messages I saw @ boot, it's not in /var/log/messages or syslog |
| 04:22.40 | ledestin | sandman: grep? |
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| 04:25.22 | tyranix | sandman: Easiest way would be to setup a serial console. |
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| 04:27.34 | sandman | Sorry bout that.. has anyone come out to help me? |
| 04:27.38 | sandman | With my aforementioned problem? |
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| 04:29.26 | zebalin7 | Did you see mepis is talking about tracking ubuntu? Did you ever get the idea that maybe ubuntu would like to take over debian? They have enough $$$ to pay a few bucks to maintainers of the most important packages. |
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| 04:29.54 | shingouz | sandman: less /var/log/dmesg perhaps? |
| 04:30.54 | tyranix | sandman: Easiest way would be to setup a serial console and use another computer to capture the boot messages. |
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| 04:42.33 | forbiddenone00z | hola a todos !!! |
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| 04:44.13 | SimonRaven | tansi |
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| 04:52.04 | vimman | my /root is 100% filled.. so like can i create a folder called /usr in some other directory and create a softlink to it ? will it cause any form of trouble later ? |
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| 04:54.46 | Ripcord | how do i upgrade my kernel ? |
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| 04:55.25 | vimman | Ripcord: heared about google |
| 04:55.31 | bjenkins | how can i get rid of stairstepping when i print a textfile with cups? |
| 04:55.44 | Ripcord | yes ... i have seen tons of info ... just a lot to absorb and filter |
| 04:56.01 | bjenkins | lpr even takes *.ps files as text |
| 04:56.06 | bjenkins | and stairsteps them |
| 04:56.07 | vimman | go to kernel newbie |
| 04:56.11 | Ripcord | k |
| 04:56.12 | shingouz | Ripcord: apt-cache search linux-image, pick the one you want, then apt-get install the one you want. reboot and oyu are done |
| 04:56.52 | Ripcord | shingouz: Thanks! I will try that |
| 04:57.01 | shingouz | np |
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| 04:58.49 | jshriver | how do you get the SCSI module to see drives over 8gig? particular a 200gig one? it's crapping out on my hard drive |
| 04:59.27 | dondelelcaro | jshriver: uh... the scsi module has no problem with drives well in excess of 8G. |
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| 04:59.43 | jshriver | any ideas? |
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| 04:59.45 | jshriver | sda : very big device. try to use READ CAPACITY(16). |
| 04:59.45 | jshriver | sda : READ CAPACITY(16) failed. |
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| 05:00.01 | h2theizzo | can anyone tell me how to login with Root so i can edit my user accounts |
| 05:00.04 | jshriver | when I try running fdisk /dev/sda it seems to only see 8gig of this drive |
| 05:00.05 | dondelelcaro | jshriver: which kernel is that? |
| 05:00.14 | jshriver | 2.6.15.1 |
| 05:00.24 | jshriver | runs fine till now |
| 05:00.38 | jshriver | and also tried the stock 2.6.8.etc |
| 05:00.58 | siimo | does any of the debian packages include more cursors for X, i want the jimmac one if its there |
| 05:01.52 | Ripcord | any votes for a clean desktop that isn't a resource hog (intel P3 class / 192MB RAM) ? |
| 05:01.52 | dondelelcaro | siimo: yes. |
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| 05:02.18 | jshriver | Ripcord: blackbox |
| 05:02.25 | siimo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.26 | siimo | gnome-themes-extras - various themes for the GNOME 2 desktop |
| 05:02.32 | siimo | i dont use gnome though :-S |
| 05:02.33 | dondelelcaro | Ripcord: with that machine, you just want a window manager. Your choices are openbox or ion3 |
| 05:02.41 | jshriver | but now adays even on my old P3 900mhz, Gnome 2 runs fine w/ no slow down |
| 05:02.59 | Ripcord | this is a P3 500 ... *sigh* |
| 05:03.32 | Ripcord | so blackbox, openbox, ion3, and a vote for gnome... ? |
| 05:03.33 | jshriver | run blackbox :) it's nice and quick |
| 05:03.35 | shingouz | Ripcord: p2-300 and xface 128M ram |
| 05:03.35 | slocate | how does one find otu what dpkg knows about something? ie emacs |
| 05:03.37 | Ripcord | cool |
| 05:03.47 | dondelelcaro | slocate: /msg dpkg help; /msg dpkg search |
| 05:03.52 | siimo | Ripcord, xfce will rock on that |
| 05:03.56 | jshriver | slocate apt-cache show xemacs21 |
| 05:03.58 | Ripcord | okies I will try |
| 05:04.12 | jshriver | dpkg -L xemacs21 |
| 05:04.12 | dpkg | ii xemacs21 1.1-1 jshriver's private stamp collection |
| 05:04.18 | jshriver | ? |
| 05:05.10 | dondelelcaro | jshriver: sure sounds like your bios is doing something strange to the scsi device then, since I've never seen that, even with disk arrays which are larger... |
| 05:06.06 | jshriver | dondelelcaro, hrm... would bIOS realy effect it since it's a USB devices? if it was real scsi I'd understand, but though this would be a purely kernel thing..... |
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| 05:06.43 | dondelelcaro | jshriver: wait, it's really a USB device? |
| 05:06.54 | jshriver | yeah |
| 05:06.56 | dondelelcaro | you know, these details are kind of important |
| 05:07.03 | jshriver | USB2.0 enclosure with a 200gig WD drive in it |
| 05:07.21 | dondelelcaro | jshriver: and does your USB2.0 enclosure even support a 200G WD drive? |
| 05:07.22 | jshriver | sorry thought I had mentioned it earlier.. that's why it's using the SCSI emulation module. |
| 05:07.29 | jshriver | yeah.. up to 400 |
| 05:07.34 | jshriver | at least that's what the box says lol |
| 05:07.35 | dondelelcaro | (and no, it's not doing scsi emulation, it is sci) |
| 05:07.37 | opnsrc | I'm trying to burn a 699.3 MB ISo image to disk with "write to disk" and it says to put a CD that supports 700 MB. This CD does support 700 MB. These ISO images will burn using Nero in Windows but don't burn under the Write to disk program in Linux. How do I burn it? |
| 05:07.57 | dondelelcaro | jshriver: what does the kernel say when you just plug it in? |
| 05:07.59 | jshriver | try cdrecord |
| 05:08.08 | opnsrc | Is there another CD burning application I should try? |
| 05:08.12 | dondelelcaro | opnsrc: use cdrecord |
| 05:08.13 | jshriver | dondelelcaro, any place I can post it? kinda long.. |
| 05:08.17 | Ripcord | I used apt-get to upgrade to 2.6.12 kernel .. and sucessfully booted - do I have to manually remove the old files and the grub menu.lst options? |
| 05:08.18 | zebalin7 | opnsrc: use k3b or gnomebaker. |
| 05:08.18 | dondelelcaro | !paster |
| 05:08.18 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 05:08.25 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 05:08.36 | dondelelcaro | and k3b or gnomebaker use... cdrecord! |
| 05:08.47 | Hexpucmb | heh |
| 05:08.53 | Hexpucmb | just use cdrecord, yep |
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| 05:09.21 | jshriver | here |
| 05:09.22 | jshriver | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1782. |
| 05:09.26 | xeltran | errtt |
| 05:09.32 | zebalin7 | dondelelcaro: use. I figure: cdrecord -v -eject path/filename would work ok. |
| 05:09.50 | nrdb | does anyone know a Linux program to convert .mov files to .avi preferably |
| 05:10.07 | zebalin7 | dondelelcaro: maybe there is an iso parm needed? |
| 05:10.30 | Ripcord | after upgrading kernel do I need to remove any files from the old kernel ? |
| 05:10.43 | opnsrc | Ripcord I wouldn't |
| 05:10.48 | Ripcord | k |
| 05:10.55 | opnsrc | Ripcord, It's a good idea to have more than one kernel |
| 05:11.01 | Ripcord | i see |
| 05:11.02 | Hexpucmb | nrdb: There are several: transcode mencoder ffmpeg all have this capability. But they all require detailed knowledge of the man pages. |
| 05:11.15 | opnsrc | I've had issues where, during upgrade, the main kernel would fail (because it wasn't completely installed) |
| 05:11.27 | opnsrc | So I booted from another kernel and finished the upgrade and booted back from the main kernel |
| 05:11.47 | Ripcord | cool thanks :) |
| 05:11.53 | opnsrc | Sometimes things may go wrong with your main kernel so you may want backups to try from |
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| 05:13.13 | jshriver | came across something I found via google... you can pass SCSI parameters to the kernel from lilo.. |
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| 05:14.40 | dondelelcaro | zebalin7: uh... you need to specify -dev /dev/hdc and -data or similar. |
| 05:14.48 | dondelelcaro | zebalin7: the cdrecord howto covers this |
| 05:15.00 | nrdb | Hexpucmb: I can try mencoder, thanks. |
| 05:15.01 | zebalin7 | dondelelcaro: now you know why I use the GUI !!!!!! |
| 05:15.12 | gravity | ... |
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| 05:17.18 | dondelelcaro | jshriver: that isn't going to help you; the usb modules apparently support stuff >= 250G with no problem; I'd almost guess that it's the enclosure that's having an issue, cause it's returning insane values. |
| 05:18.31 | jshriver | k |
| 05:18.37 | jshriver | let me read and try and work this out :) |
| 05:19.21 | dondelelcaro | (unless it's something screwy with USB2 that doesn't happen with 1.1) |
| 05:20.03 | swagstaff | Hi there! Looking for gentle help re: a frustrating message I just got from apt-get (using Synaptic, actually). Two items in a row that I've tried to install (K9copy, dvd::rip) have failed, with the message "trying to overwrite '/user/lib/pkgconfig/system-tools-backend-pc,' which is also in package gnome-system-tools." / dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (broken pipe) |
| 05:20.58 | swagstaff | Is there a way for me to ask it to overwrite that package? Is that the sort of thing I ought to want to ask it? |
| 05:21.08 | Ripcord | I used apt-get install xfce4 ... what else do I need? |
| 05:21.33 | Ripcord | actually ... how do i start it lol / |
| 05:21.52 | predius_ | Ripcord: gdm or kdm should have an entry. |
| 05:21.55 | predius_ | in session |
| 05:22.08 | Ripcord | sorry ... don't understand ... |
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| 05:22.23 | Ripcord | i have been playing with linux for .... about 4 hours now |
| 05:22.41 | Ripcord | google hates me right now lolol |
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| 05:23.15 | predius_ | Ripcord: instead of loggin on normally, click on something that says "session" |
| 05:23.25 | predius_ | ans chose xfce |
| 05:23.38 | Ripcord | so i need to reboot ? I am in the console currently |
| 05:23.49 | shingouz | Ripcord: try startx |
| 05:23.53 | Ripcord | that doesn't work |
| 05:23.58 | Ripcord | tried it |
| 05:23.59 | shingouz | why? |
| 05:24.03 | Ripcord | i dunno |
| 05:24.11 | Ripcord | maybe i also need to install x? |
| 05:24.17 | shingouz | errors, man. we need the errors |
| 05:24.29 | Ripcord | well tell me how I am supposed to start xfce |
| 05:24.35 | Ripcord | then i can give you an error? |
| 05:24.53 | shingouz | startx usually works. if it doesn't, what does it barf at you? |
| 05:25.07 | rredd4 | barf... lol |
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| 05:25.15 | Ripcord | ahh that explains my error ... no command ... so i need to install x |
| 05:25.26 | shingouz | rredd4: yes. that is short for barfolomew |
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| 05:26.46 | Ripcord | apt-get install x-window-system ? then xfce should work ? |
| 05:27.03 | Ripcord | 'should' being operative word |
| 05:27.05 | rredd4 | what is xfce? |
| 05:27.25 | deadcat | xfce4 |
| 05:27.31 | lo | whats xfce? |
| 05:27.31 | Ripcord | http://www.xfce.org/index.php |
| 05:27.42 | rredd4 | tanks! |
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| 05:28.14 | Ripcord | javol |
| 05:28.53 | lo | can't someone just say what xfce? we all can't click on stuff and go look |
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| 05:29.16 | Ripcord | it is a different version of desktop like kde or gnome |
| 05:29.24 | Ripcord | it was recommended to me earlier |
| 05:29.25 | lo | oh. |
| 05:29.47 | swagstaff | xfce = pleasant, fast desktop, too. |
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| 05:30.26 | rredd4 | a friend told me to type 'ls' so that i can see how much hard drive usage there is. What is the correct command please? |
| 05:30.34 | lo | rredd: df |
| 05:30.39 | rredd4 | ty |
| 05:30.41 | lo | np |
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| 05:31.02 | Ripcord | i am getting an option ... do I pick xserver-xfree86 or xserver-xorg |
| 05:31.08 | lo | rredd: man df for options. |
| 05:31.13 | Ripcord | prolly depends on GPU ? |
| 05:31.15 | rredd4 | k! |
| 05:31.15 | gravity | Ripcord: If you have the option, pick xserver-xorg |
| 05:31.18 | Ripcord | k |
| 05:31.19 | lo | xorg |
| 05:31.24 | Ripcord | roger |
| 05:32.09 | rredd4 | lo: thanks, its hard to know which command to type when you don't know commands, yet. |
| 05:32.29 | rredd4 | i got books tho... |
| 05:32.36 | Ripcord | i don't know why it took me so long to play with linux... it's great for geeks :) |
| 05:32.45 | Ripcord | from what I have seen |
| 05:33.24 | lo | its good for some things |
| 05:33.26 | dowxp | if only foobar ... |
| 05:33.32 | dowxp | worked on nix :| |
| 05:33.43 | Ripcord | ya everything has it's place... |
| 05:33.43 | gravity | What's so great about foobar anyway? |
| 05:33.53 | gravity | aiui it's overrated, like mirc |
| 05:34.19 | gravity | I like the artsy-ness of it |
| 05:34.26 | gravity | er... ECHAN |
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| 05:35.09 | dowxp | there isn't anything artsy about it :O |
| 05:35.23 | gravity | Yeah, that was for somewhere else |
| 05:35.39 | gravity | But the overrated comment and foobar question were in the right place |
| 05:35.40 | dowxp | in fact, its probably underrated if anything |
| 05:35.45 | dowxp | hmmm |
| 05:35.48 | gravity | foobar? Why? |
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| 05:35.54 | dna_ | ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory |
| 05:36.01 | gravity | What does it have that amarok and quodlibet don't? |
| 05:36.04 | Ripcord | woot! i am messing around in xfce now |
| 05:36.27 | rredd4 | cdrecord is in my /usr/bin I can't find it in the menus. Shouldn't it be in the multimedia menu? |
| 05:36.31 | dna_ | To solve the current problem type modprobe snd_seq |
| 05:36.34 | dna_ | :) |
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| 05:38.08 | dna_ | JACK: unable to mlock() port buffers: Operation not permitted |
| 05:38.11 | dna_ | any ideas? |
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| 05:39.59 | gravity | ugh... foobar can look like anything? Didn't we already learn what a mistake that was with xmms? |
| 05:40.48 | gravity | And winamp, for that matter, which was far worse |
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| 05:43.29 | dna_ | Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| 05:43.30 | dna_ | Warning: no locale found: /usr/share/locale/qjackctl_en_US.qm |
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| 05:45.46 | Pyrolithic | good evening peoples... |
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| 05:47.13 | zebalin7 | Where in kde can you make dhcp and dns settings? You can do it in gnome. |
| 05:47.43 | Pyrolithic | I need some odd help.. I need to get debian working with no cdrom nor fdd... |
| 05:47.45 | bucky | that's why gnome is better |
| 05:47.56 | zebalin7 | bucky: I guess. |
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| 05:48.06 | dondelelcaro | uh... with /usr/bin/sensible-editor ? |
| 05:48.18 | bucky | zebalin7, edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:48.26 | siimo | hi can someone help me with soundcard? modules are loaded but in xmms i get Couldn't open audio. |
| 05:49.10 | bucky | zebalin7, http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-net-high |
| 05:49.18 | siimo | if i start alsamixer i see this error message alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 05:50.01 | Pyrolithic | I have the debian core loaded... but need the network drivers going... any help? |
| 05:50.54 | bucky | Pyrolithic, does your eth0 shows up in ifconfig |
| 05:52.38 | siimo | :-/ |
| 05:53.02 | slummer | siimo: apt-get install alsa-base |
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| 05:53.22 | h2theizzo | Hey |
| 05:53.26 | siimo | do i need that with 2.6 kernel |
| 05:53.38 | h2theizzo | im useing Xchat2 on Debian stable, it wont let me connect SSL to my server,anyone know hwy? |
| 05:53.41 | zebalin7 | bucky: thanks for the link. I forgot all about the debian book.... thinking kde had a front-end like gnome did. |
| 05:54.02 | slummer | siimo: yep |
| 05:54.06 | siimo | slummer, thanks it works not :) |
| 05:54.10 | siimo | now |
| 05:54.13 | siimo | not not |
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| 05:57.32 | pablum | yo |
| 05:57.59 | siimo | i have this weird bug where no matter what openoffice shortcut i click (writer calc etc ) i get an empty openoffice window |
| 05:58.26 | predius_ | siimo: apt-get reportbug |
| 05:58.26 | Dewi | is it possible to setuid to a UID that doesn't exist on the system? |
| 05:58.28 | predius_ | err |
| 05:58.29 | pablum | cool (#debian-amd64)! |
| 05:58.34 | predius_ | apt-get install reportbug |
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| 05:59.19 | siimo | ok.. |
| 06:00.00 | Ripcord | how do you get apt to tell you which version of a program it is going to install ? |
| 06:00.30 | siimo | Ripcord, well you can apt-get show <program> |
| 06:00.37 | Ripcord | ahh |
| 06:00.38 | Ripcord | thanks |
| 06:00.43 | siimo | i mean apt-cache |
| 06:00.48 | Ripcord | gotcha |
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| 06:01.28 | siimo | do something like: apt-cache show mozilla | grep Version to see just version as come of the packages have too much info |
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| 06:02.09 | Ripcord | k |
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| 06:02.33 | siimo | Ripcord_L, ah dont log in as root |
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| 06:02.40 | Ripcord | whups |
| 06:02.44 | Ripcord | that is me ... |
| 06:02.48 | Ripcord | just installed some stuff |
| 06:03.19 | dna_ | hhow do I change my apt-get sources.list to unstable? |
| 06:03.35 | Ripcord | So if I want to install something when logged in as a different user ... i use sudo / |
| 06:03.36 | Ripcord | ? |
| 06:03.39 | streuner | dna_: /msg dpkg sid faq |
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| 06:05.29 | Ripcord | just curious but what can happen in irc if you are logged on as root ? |
| 06:05.31 | brianr | any m4 gurus around? |
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| 06:06.35 | pablum | Ripcord, http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 06:06.55 | Ripcord | k |
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| 06:07.29 | dsl580 | Hello, anyone here? |
| 06:07.34 | Ripcord | yes |
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| 06:07.46 | pablum | !ne1 |
| 06:07.46 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 06:07.58 | pablum | oops |
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| 06:08.16 | dsl580 | I just did a install of the netinstall |
| 06:08.43 | dsl580 | And apt isn't working i think i messed up the /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 06:08.45 | pablum | looks like #debian-amd64 got hit by the avian flu... |
| 06:09.01 | dsl580 | anyone show me thiers? |
| 06:09.17 | predius_ | dsl580: #flood |
| 06:09.24 | dondelelcaro | dsl580: give us the full output as well as your sources.list |
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| 06:09.45 | predius_ | dsl580: in #flood |
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| 06:10.15 | lo | ahh ivtv rocks |
| 06:10.16 | Ripcord | i was using apt-spy earlier ... i really liked it |
| 06:10.17 | lo | :D |
| 06:10.25 | nrdb | I have a script with the shebang line '#! /bin/sh' when i execute this with ./configure I get the error command "-bash: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied" can anyone tell me why? |
| 06:10.30 | dsl580 | deb ftp://ftp.debian.org sarge main |
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| 06:10.59 | lo | off to get a burger |
| 06:11.00 | lo | bbl |
| 06:11.00 | dsl580 | X_x something wrong in there? |
| 06:11.09 | predius_ | dsl580: what do you get? |
| 06:11.19 | predius_ | if its more than one line, put n #flood |
| 06:11.33 | dsl580 | no, it's only one line |
| 06:11.46 | dsl580 | and, i get nothing it times out |
| 06:11.57 | predius_ | ping ftp.debian.org |
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| 06:12.45 | siimo | can anyone install gvlc in sid? |
| 06:13.19 | dsl580 | I think it's my connection... Grrrr |
| 06:13.37 | dsl580 | So, my sources.list not messed uo? |
| 06:13.39 | dsl580 | up** |
| 06:14.03 | predius_ | nope |
| 06:14.08 | Pyrolithic | I just need my network card to work... someone please help... |
| 06:14.13 | predius_ | siimo: what fails? |
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| 06:14.23 | predius_ | dependencies or the installation itself? |
| 06:14.28 | predius_ | Pyrolithic: what network card? |
| 06:14.52 | Pyrolithic | 3c59x 3com |
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| 06:14.59 | siimo | predius_, vlc: Depends: dbus-1 (>= 0.23.4) but it is not installable Depends: libhal0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable |
| 06:15.13 | predius_ | siimo: apt-get update |
| 06:15.14 | Supaplex | Pyrolithic: does ifconfig -a show it? (don't paste) if so, man 5 interfaces |
| 06:15.19 | Pyrolithic | its a very odd install... |
| 06:15.26 | dsl580 | thanks ^_^ |
| 06:15.28 | Pyrolithic | no |
| 06:15.33 | siimo | predius_, i did that it isnt helping maybe my mirror is out of date then? |
| 06:15.43 | predius_ | try with ftp.debian.org |
| 06:16.04 | Pyrolithic | I ran the debian min install on another laptop to get the base system on the hdd... then reinstalled the hdd in my dell... |
| 06:16.56 | predius_ | brb |
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| 06:18.17 | bucky | Pyrolithic, modprobe 3c59x and dhclient eth0 |
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| 06:19.23 | Pyrolithic | I tried getting pcimodule to run it but it didn't.... |
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| 06:20.26 | Pyrolithic | bucky it replied "/etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/..... |
| 06:20.29 | dbernar1 | Is it safe to kill your evms processes while your system is running? |
| 06:22.09 | siimo | predius_, yeah it was my mirror :-S seems weeks old! |
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| 06:22.27 | siimo | apt-get upgrade offered 70 new packages |
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| 06:24.04 | dbernar1 | What is a [pdflush] process? |
| 06:24.21 | deliver | Guten Tach auch |
| 06:24.26 | dbernar1 | ya. |
| 06:24.31 | dbernar1 | Ja |
| 06:24.35 | pablum | update != upgrade |
| 06:24.35 | dbernar1 | pah |
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| 06:26.20 | dbernar1 | What is a good place to learn about processes? |
| 06:26.22 | dbernar1 | !ps |
| 06:26.23 | dpkg | rumour has it, ps is a command that reports a snapshot of active processes (`man ps' for more info). Try: `ps auxw' which will report all processes with username in wide format. or ps is fixed in 2.0.3-3, no more segfaults. |
| 06:26.32 | h2theizzo | how do i login as root on debian? |
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| 06:26.41 | dbernar1 | login to what? |
| 06:26.46 | h2theizzo | gnome |
| 06:27.05 | lakcaj | you don't |
| 06:27.08 | h2theizzo | ok |
| 06:27.12 | h2theizzo | how do i edit a user as root? |
| 06:27.13 | dbernar1 | it is an option in your administration preferences. |
| 06:27.16 | siimo | h2theizzo, why do you want to log into gnome as root? but if you really want to then it may be turned off in gdmsetup |
| 06:27.19 | dbernar1 | edit a user? |
| 06:27.26 | h2theizzo | yeah |
| 06:27.28 | h2theizzo | i created a user |
| 06:27.29 | dbernar1 | what is that? |
| 06:27.32 | h2theizzo | so i dont have to use Root |
| 06:27.36 | h2theizzo | but |
| 06:27.41 | h2theizzo | it wont lemmy sudo apt-get |
| 06:27.42 | h2theizzo | :\ |
| 06:27.50 | dbernar1 | pah. Do you use debian, or ubuntu? |
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| 06:27.54 | lakcaj | you're using ubuntu aren't you? |
| 06:27.56 | h2theizzo | Debian |
| 06:27.57 | deliver | Ups, is this not the german debian-channel? |
| 06:27.57 | siimo | h2theizzo, add the user as a sudoer using visudo |
| 06:28.11 | dbernar1 | h2theizzo: do you have sudo installed? |
| 06:28.14 | streuner | !de |
| 06:28.15 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 06:28.16 | h2theizzo | i used the Netinstall image |
| 06:28.21 | deliver | Thx |
| 06:28.23 | h2theizzo | visudo eh? |
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| 06:28.39 | siimo | h2theizzo, or you can just open a terminal type : su then root password and then apt-get whatever |
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| 06:28.48 | h2theizzo | visudo didnt do anything |
| 06:29.01 | rredd4 | !paster |
| 06:29.01 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 06:29.02 | h2theizzo | i edited the users and it asked me for the root password,i stuck myself on the group i though |
| 06:29.06 | siimo | h2theizzo, visudo opens the vi text editor that you have to use to edit the file that allows sudoers |
| 06:29.15 | h2theizzo | hrm |
| 06:29.17 | h2theizzo | it didnt let me |
| 06:29.18 | siimo | you need to add your created user there |
| 06:29.33 | h2theizzo | well im lame |
| 06:29.34 | h2theizzo | haha |
| 06:29.35 | h2theizzo | i dont know how |
| 06:29.43 | ft | h2theizzo: visudo must be called as root |
| 06:29.50 | h2theizzo | so su root |
| 06:29.53 | h2theizzo | then try visudo |
| 06:30.07 | h2theizzo | no |
| 06:30.09 | h2theizzo | cuz su dont work |
| 06:30.14 | ft | h2theizzo: hit CTRL ATL F1 - login as root |
| 06:30.38 | h2theizzo | visudo |
| 06:30.40 | h2theizzo | no command |
| 06:30.52 | h2theizzo | it must not be installed |
| 06:30.56 | h2theizzo | lemmy run aptitude |
| 06:31.00 | dbernar1 | !processes |
| 06:31.11 | dbernar1 | !process |
| 06:31.33 | lakcaj | dbernar1, please just message the bot if the info is for your own use |
| 06:31.40 | h2theizzo | hmm |
| 06:31.46 | ft | h2theizzo: you don't have sudo installed if visudo does not exist |
| 06:31.48 | h2theizzo | visudo isnt in the packages list |
| 06:31.58 | siimo | h2theizzo, you need to install sudo |
| 06:31.59 | h2theizzo | well when i type sudo |
| 06:32.01 | lakcaj | it's provided by sudo |
| 06:32.08 | h2theizzo | it says that im not on the sudo list,and it reported it to the root |
| 06:32.11 | dbernar1 | !enter |
| 06:32.11 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 06:32.26 | lakcaj | you have to run visudo as root, iirc |
| 06:32.38 | lakcaj | dbernar1, quit that |
| 06:32.40 | dbernar1 | off course. makes sense |
| 06:32.59 | dbernar1 | Is it safe to kill evms processes while the computer is running? |
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| 06:33.26 | ft | h2theizzo: are you logged in as root? |
| 06:33.43 | h2theizzo | im in aptitude as root |
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| 06:33.51 | lakcaj | h2theizzo, open a terminal, become root by typing "su" without the quotes and then entering the root password. Then, run visudo as root. |
| 06:34.20 | rredd4 | when I was using synaptic and then quit, I clicked on the 'K' menu and locked up. My mouse worked but could not click on anything else until the menu worked, about 3 minutes later. Can someone help please |
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| 06:34.39 | h2theizzo | awesome lakcaj |
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| 06:35.12 | BriteSpaak | Hi, how do I stop apt removing the downloaded packages after they've been installed? |
| 06:35.13 | h2theizzo | now do i add h2theizzo ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 06:35.28 | lakcaj | h2theizzo, alternatively, you can just not use sudo at all and just use su to become root when you want to run something as root, which is what most people here do. |
| 06:35.28 | rredd4 | I looked at my xfree86 log, no errors or timeouts |
| 06:35.33 | ft | h2theizzo: didn't you say 'su' didn't work? ...hm, nevermind... |
| 06:35.52 | h2theizzo | lol it didnt work before, but i did su root instead of just su |
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| 06:35.56 | Pyrolithic | anyone want to help me get drivers going? |
| 06:36.21 | beardy | Pyrolithic: /msg dpkg ask |
| 06:36.38 | ft | lakcaj: you got statistics for that? :-) |
| 06:36.39 | h2theizzo | now that im in visudo, do i add this line, username ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 06:36.45 | lakcaj | h2theizzo, using the vi editor, which is where the "vi" in visudo comes from, press i to insert text, and then escape : wq <enter> to save and exit |
| 06:37.04 | lakcaj | ft, 85.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot |
| 06:37.11 | ft | :) |
| 06:37.13 | Pyrolithic | I need somewhat advanced help.... |
| 06:37.21 | beardy | !ask |
| 06:37.21 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 06:38.33 | Pyrolithic | I need to load 3c59x drivers.... but don't know exactly how... |
| 06:38.59 | ft | Pyrolithic: modprobe? |
| 06:39.20 | beardy | Pyrolithic: That's more like it. 'modprobe 3c59x', as root. |
| 06:39.25 | jm_ | Pyrolithic: man modules |
| 06:39.37 | deliver | apt-get install modutils |
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| 06:40.01 | Pyrolithic | modprobe nothing to load ??? |
| 06:40.16 | rredd4 | My problem, random lock ups. Using sarge. when I was using synaptic and then quit, I clicked on the 'K' menu and locked up. Xfree86 log shows no errors or timeouts |
| 06:40.38 | h2theizzo | is there a help file for bobot++ somewhere? |
| 06:40.44 | rredd4 | After 3 minutes or so, it unlocked |
| 06:40.49 | beardy | Pyrolithic: Run 'lsmod | grep 3c59x', what do you get? |
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| 06:41.43 | ft | h2theizzo: maybe man bobot++ |
| 06:41.57 | beardy | rredd4: Then there's no problem then, if ti works now. |
| 06:41.58 | ft | h2theizzo: or /usr/share/doc/<package>/ |
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| 06:42.00 | Pyrolithic | > beardy |
| 06:42.05 | Pyrolithic | ">" actually |
| 06:42.22 | deliver | apt-get modconf |
| 06:42.24 | rredd4 | beardy: but there is when it takes so long to open |
| 06:42.57 | Hexpucmb | Can anyone suggest possible reasons why nfs does not share files > 2GB ? I use Sarge on both client and server. I get i/o errors when using ls or accessing files directly. |
| 06:43.25 | h2theizzo | thank you ft |
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| 06:44.01 | deliver | insmod 3c59x |
| 06:45.00 | beardy | Pyrolithic: You can't have run what I said then. |
| 06:45.26 | ircdevil | sup |
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| 06:45.54 | ft | Pyrolithic: have you entered the command without the single quotes? |
| 06:45.55 | deliver | My question is: after installing exim4 for reportbug, root get no more messages after typing 'mail' in console. What must I do? |
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| 06:46.17 | jm_ | Hexpucmb: I think NFSv3 is needed to have support for files > 2GB |
| 06:46.28 | beardy | Pyrolithic: You will either get something or nothing. |
| 06:46.41 | ft | deliver: normally exim forwards mail for root to another user.... |
| 06:47.29 | deliver | ft, in conf-dialog I told exim that it should use 'root' |
| 06:49.36 | ft | deliver: why do you think root has got mail? |
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| 06:50.22 | deliver | Because before I installed exim4, there was some mails from the system in box |
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| 06:51.18 | ft | deliver: well, is there any data in '/var/mail/root'? |
| 06:51.33 | deliver | Tiger or logcheck send it |
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| 06:52.15 | Ripcord | are all of the services that start on boot located in /etc/init.d ? |
| 06:52.16 | ft | deliver: if you already read it, mail might have saved it to '/root/mbox'... |
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| 06:52.22 | SteveLappyNZ | lo interface doesnt UP on boot.. `ifdown lo && ifup lo` fixes the problem temporarily.. any hint ? |
| 06:52.23 | deliver | I have no directory of his name |
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| 06:52.36 | dbernar1 | I am not able to ping one of my machines. It is on the same ISP as I am. I can see its IP address when on the console of that machine, but can not ping that IP address. |
| 06:52.48 | ft | deliver: what directory? |
| 06:52.51 | Ripcord | trying to stop xfce/x from running at boot |
| 06:52.56 | beardy | Ripcord: Yes. |
| 06:53.01 | Ripcord | k |
| 06:53.04 | dbernar1 | I can not see anything strange in ps, and "sudo iptables -F" does not give any output. |
| 06:53.16 | deliver | ups, ft: after making this directory I have mail |
| 06:53.18 | beardy | Ripcord: Are you running xdm, gdm, kdm, or another dm? |
| 06:53.23 | dbernar1 | What am I missing? I killed gdm to make sure it is not some gui firewall... |
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| 06:53.26 | deliver | Veryx astonishing thing |
| 06:53.36 | Ripcord | i have x-windows and xfce installed |
| 06:53.46 | jm_ | SteveLappyNZ: man interfaces |
| 06:53.51 | SteveLappyNZ | thx |
| 06:53.55 | beardy | Ripcord: What is started at boot then? |
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| 06:54.00 | Ripcord | xfce |
| 06:54.07 | jm_ | SteveLappyNZ: read "Lines beginning ..." paragraph |
| 06:54.12 | beardy | Ripcord: Isn't that a windowmanager? |
| 06:54.17 | Ripcord | yes |
| 06:54.38 | beardy | Ripcord: Do you have startx in your ~/.bashrc or /~.bash_profile |
| 06:54.50 | Ripcord | i not sure |
| 06:54.51 | beardy | ~/.bash_profile |
| 06:54.53 | apt | source ~/.bashrc |
| 06:54.53 | SteveLappyNZ | jm_: aha |
| 06:54.54 | Ripcord | err i'm not sure |
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| 06:54.59 | beardy | Ripcord: Sounds like it. |
| 06:55.34 | ft | Ripcord: sounds more like {g,k,x}dm |
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| 06:55.44 | dbernar1 | all three? |
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| 06:55.58 | beardy | ft: Not if he says he doesn't run them. (but he probably does) |
| 06:56.05 | elno | any program to make C++ softare in linux? |
| 06:56.15 | dbernar1 | elno: no. we only use java |
| 06:56.17 | Dewi | is it possible to migrate a user from fedora to debian? |
| 06:56.20 | dbernar1 | !gcc |
| 06:56.21 | dpkg | from memory, gcc is the GNU Compiler Collection. see http://gcc.gnu.org/ or #gcc |
| 06:56.24 | elno | !tell elno about c++ |
| 06:56.26 | Ripcord | As far as I know, I only have x and xfce installed |
| 06:56.32 | beardy | elno: Your favourite editor and gcc. |
| 06:56.35 | ft | beardy: his bash doesn't do anything while booting |
| 06:56.39 | beardy | elno: /msg the bot |
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| 06:56.48 | Dewi | can I just grab a guy's /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and /etc/group entries and take them from fedora to debian? |
| 06:56.56 | Ripcord | ... so is there a config file that I can manually check |
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| 06:56.58 | beardy | ft: How do you know what he includes in "booting"? |
| 06:57.08 | elno | any channel to request help about c++ ? |
| 06:57.19 | beardy | ft: But you're right, it would run whenever he logged in then.. |
| 06:57.22 | SteveLappyNZ | Dewi: no |
| 06:57.46 | ft | ft: well, if he redefines what "boot" means, how can one help him? :-) |
| 06:57.48 | Pyrolithic | I've tried running the commands stated.... and they're no working.... |
| 06:57.51 | Dewi | SteveLappyNZ: is the hash different? |
| 06:57.57 | ft | s/ft:/beardy:/ |
| 06:57.58 | beardy | Ripcord: When you boot, do you log in at a graphical screen? |
| 06:58.03 | SteveLappyNZ | Dewi: lots is different |
| 06:58.09 | Ripcord | "boot" implies a cold start |
| 06:58.12 | Ripcord | yes |
| 06:58.16 | Pyrolithic | I only have the core system running.... this is a pai.... |
| 06:58.17 | Dewi | SteveLappyNZ: what about between two debian machines? |
| 06:58.23 | beardy | Ripcord: Then you are running ?dm. |
| 06:58.25 | beardy | !nodm |
| 06:58.25 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 06:58.29 | SteveLappyNZ | Dewi: it is not recommended |
| 06:58.55 | beardy | Ripcord: A reboot doesn't. |
| 06:58.56 | Ripcord | beardy: I am running a desktop manager |
| 06:59.00 | Dewi | SteveLappyNZ: I'm sure it's not recommended for my server to ever die, but if it does I want to be prepared |
| 06:59.21 | SteveLappyNZ | no, dont transfer users that way |
| 06:59.22 | Dewi | SteveLappyNZ: it's currently fedora, though. I want to migrate to debian sometime too. |
| 06:59.25 | beardy | Ripcord: You said you weren't earlier. |
| 06:59.34 | Dewi | SteveLappyNZ: "that way"? I'm asking how to do it at all |
| 06:59.36 | h2theizzo | wtf |
| 06:59.37 | h2theizzo | gay |
| 06:59.42 | beardy | !gay |
| 06:59.42 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 06:59.43 | Ripcord | i think i said I wasn't sure |
| 06:59.46 | h2theizzo | hahaha |
| 07:00.01 | SteveLappyNZ | Dewi: backup their home dir and give it to them on CD or DVD |
| 07:00.06 | beardy | Ripcord: Allright, what dpkg said is how to get rid of it, if that was what you wanted. |
| 07:00.10 | Dewi | SteveLappyNZ: right. |
| 07:00.12 | dbernar1 | nice |
| 07:00.20 | Dewi | SteveLappyNZ: that's not really acceptable |
| 07:00.34 | SteveLappyNZ | Dewi: write a script to do it |
| 07:00.45 | Dewi | SteveLappyNZ: you just said the systems are too different |
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| 07:01.03 | Hexpucmb | Is it necessary to use kernel nfs server to provide nfsv3 ? I am currently using userspace nfs server. |
| 07:01.06 | Ripcord | well I don't want to remove it, just login via console by default and start it if I want it |
| 07:01.16 | SteveLappyNZ | Dewi: employ a consultant |
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| 07:01.25 | Dewi | SteveLappyNZ: stop intoning like a bot |
| 07:01.29 | Pyrolithic | I'm about to comit a homo case! |
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| 07:02.39 | bucky | SteveLappyNZ, sup |
| 07:02.42 | Zed | Hi. Do you know where I can get documentation to make my via chip card KM400 work 3D in sid ? |
| 07:02.44 | beardy | Pyrolithic: What does this say? 'cat /etc/debian_version' (without the two '') |
| 07:02.46 | SteveLappyNZ | bucky: heyyy!! |
| 07:02.52 | bucky | hehe |
| 07:02.58 | SteveLappyNZ | didnt see you in there 8-) |
| 07:03.31 | Dewi | can anyone help me find reliable information about user account backup and migration? |
| 07:03.45 | Pyrolithic | 3.1 beardy |
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| 07:04.06 | jm_ | yes, no doubt there is someone who can |
| 07:04.15 | Dewi | jm_: oh, here we go again |
| 07:04.41 | SteveLappyNZ | jm_: I have "auto lo \ iface lo inet loopback" but it still doesnt work.. any hint ? |
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| 07:04.58 | Dewi | jm_: help me find reliable information about user account backup and migration... OR DIE! is that better? |
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| 07:05.33 | jm_ | SteveLappyNZ: one option would be to modify /etc/init.d/networking and use -v option to see what is going on |
| 07:05.36 | beardy | Pyrolithic: And when you run 'which lsmod' it says? |
| 07:05.40 | siimo | SteveLappyNZ, hey whats up appearently ftp.nz.debian.org is out of date with sid |
| 07:05.46 | SteveLappyNZ | jm_: thank you |
| 07:06.03 | SteveLappyNZ | siimo: thanks |
| 07:06.48 | Pyrolithic | "/sbin/lsmod" |
| 07:07.14 | Pyrolithic | beardy may I pm? |
| 07:07.35 | beardy | Pyrolithic: No, please don't. |
| 07:07.45 | SteveLappyNZ | heh |
| 07:07.52 | Pyrolithic | sorry... |
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| 07:08.09 | Pyrolithic | anyway... this sucks something aweful... |
| 07:08.41 | siimo | anyone that use XFCE know what does the window manager stick button do? |
| 07:09.06 | siimo | nevermind got it |
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| 07:10.59 | beardy | Pyrolithic: Oh, you must be running as root? Run this again, either as root or a normal user, 'lsmod | grep 3c59x' (the | is a pipe, not an i or L) |
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| 07:13.45 | mordain | a homo case is matching luggage? |
| 07:13.54 | beardy | Pyrolithic: If you see 3c59x and two more numbers to the right, the module is already loaded, if you don't get any output, it's not loaded. |
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| 07:14.22 | beardy | Pyrolithic: So which is it? |
| 07:14.24 | siimo | meh firefox 1.5.0.1 has switch page direction in right click menu :-| |
| 07:14.26 | siimo | why do i need this |
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| 07:16.24 | Hexpucmb | hm |
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| 07:17.50 | Pyrolithic | beardy I can't run a "pipe" as theres not one on this keyboard... |
| 07:19.02 | dondelelcaro | Pyrolithic: | <--here, use this one. |
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| 07:19.09 | Pyrolithic | | |
| 07:19.23 | Pyrolithic | yes that.... doesn't do anything worth anything.... |
| 07:19.23 | nayyares | i am currently running qmail with 3G AMD dedicated server. it take 2-3 seconds to send and email :(, i want to increase this email sending speed to about 50 mails per second, is there any solution? |
| 07:19.44 | mordain | can u do the alt-numpad trick to enter ascii code for pipe? |
| 07:20.04 | Pyrolithic | nayyares... spam rules! |
| 07:20.07 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: uh... why do you care about that? |
| 07:20.44 | nayyares | dondelelcaro, my company wants to increase it :) |
| 07:21.05 | mordain | lol... email is not a speed critical app |
| 07:21.16 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: it shouldn't take anywhere near that long; if it is taking that long, you've got issues resolving names. |
| 07:21.30 | dondelelcaro | in any case, qmail isn't free software, so we can't support it here. #qmail may be able to help you. |
| 07:21.34 | Pyrolithic | yeah I just want my network card to work.... |
| 07:22.01 | Pyrolithic | and I'm willing to cause death so dondelelcaro shutup |
| 07:22.12 | nayyares | dondelelcaro, is there any other open source replacement, which can get to this speed |
| 07:22.30 | nayyares | dondelelcaro, i have heard about postfix, but never used it |
| 07:22.33 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: postfix, exim, sendmail... they can all do it. |
| 07:22.45 | dondelelcaro | Pyrolithic: ? |
| 07:23.06 | Pyrolithic | no idea |
| 07:23.16 | Pyrolithic | I just want my damn network card to work |
| 07:23.16 | beardy | Pyrolithic: Of course there is a pipe on you keyboard, one way or another. And calm down. |
| 07:23.35 | dondelelcaro | Pyrolithic: have you loaded the proper module? what does lspci output? what modprobe 3c59x; do? |
| 07:24.01 | mordain | pyro: u use usb keyb or ps/2 ? |
| 07:24.05 | nayyares | dondelelcaro, we have about 100 thousand users in our mail server, some time we send them emails and get stuck. |
| 07:24.09 | beardy | Pyrolithic: Where country are you from? And if you have a keyboard from somewhere else, where then? |
| 07:24.18 | beardy | s/Where/What/ |
| 07:24.20 | Pyrolithic | us... |
| 07:24.33 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: if you're doing that much volume you should have multiple mailservers. |
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| 07:24.51 | Pyrolithic | lspci lists my nic as "3c905c" |
| 07:25.08 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: outgoing mail is trivial to multiplex on a dns roundrobbin or behind a proxy |
| 07:25.57 | nayyares | dondelelcaro, do u have any statistics about postfix per second email speed? |
| 07:26.01 | beardy | Pyrolithic: That is what you should be loading then, not 3c59x |
| 07:26.56 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: it should have no issue on a reasonably sized box to saturate your entire pipe |
| 07:27.30 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: number of emails per second is a useless statistic unless you're comparing exactly the same thing. |
| 07:27.43 | nayyares | hmm |
| 07:27.51 | dondelelcaro | (and anyway, in almost all cases your network bound anyway) |
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| 07:29.58 | beardy | Pyrolithic: What you want is probably "/msg dpkg interfaces" (in your irc client). |
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| 07:40.02 | john_ | hey |
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| 07:40.18 | john_ | after i do a net install, and apt-get fluxbox, and |
| 07:40.23 | john_ | X server |
| 07:40.27 | Seawolf | l |
| 07:40.28 | ice_1963 | john hay |
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| 07:40.55 | john_ | where do i edit the config, or what config do i need to edit for it to start flux? |
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| 07:41.55 | ice_1963 | startx |
| 07:42.12 | facade | Hi, what are the commands to delete and copy? |
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| 07:42.30 | john_ | I know start X |
| 07:42.31 | chezmoi | hi. is there a way to clean all of the aptitude/apt-get information. it looks like i have invalid conflicts on software that i have removed. |
| 07:42.55 | john_ | but i have to like configure it to get Flux started... |
| 07:43.07 | tengulre11 | http://sial.org/pbot/15827 |
| 07:43.15 | chezmoi | i can't reinstall :( |
| 07:43.41 | tengulre11 | I want using ppp-on command, but 'http://sial.org/pbot/15827' |
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| 07:44.00 | chezmoi | anybody here who knows debian enough |
| 07:44.06 | chezmoi | ? |
| 07:44.25 | streuner | no |
| 07:44.30 | ice_1963 | dpkg-reconfigure xsrver-xorg or xfree86 |
| 07:44.48 | streuner | chezmoi, just ask your question and not a 'meta' question |
| 07:44.53 | streuner | !ask |
| 07:44.53 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 07:45.31 | streuner | chezmoi, What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 07:45.50 | nayyares | [OT] gmail use which mail server? |
| 07:45.57 | chezmoi | 1 sec. |
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| 07:46.31 | chezmoi | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 07:46.31 | chezmoi | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.10 | streuner | chezmoi, ok, show us your sources.list in paster bot (/msg dpkg paster) |
| 07:47.18 | tengulre11 | nayyares: qmail! I think! |
| 07:48.04 | chezmoi | #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main |
| 07:48.04 | chezmoi | deb http://debian.fastweb.it/debian/ stable main |
| 07:48.29 | streuner | hm, is that all? |
| 07:48.32 | chezmoi | --the above lines are in sources.list |
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| 07:48.50 | Usiu | Hi |
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| 07:48.56 | streuner | chezmoi, what command did you use and what did you get? |
| 07:49.11 | Jeeves_Moss | all: good evining all |
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| 07:49.36 | Usiu | is pbuilder broken ? |
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| 07:49.44 | chezmoi | aptitude install mysql-server |
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| 07:49.57 | Jeeves_Moss | all: has any one ever booted a system to do a net install from floopys, and if so, HOW? |
| 07:50.02 | streuner | Usiu: nothing in BTS? |
| 07:50.02 | Usiu | Anybody know how to fix it ? http://rafb.net/paste/results/uc7Jd573.html |
| 07:50.04 | chezmoi | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 07:50.16 | chezmoi | Depends: mysql-client (>= 4.0.24-10sarge1) but it is not installable |
| 07:50.25 | streuner | !info mysql-server sarge |
| 07:50.29 | chezmoi | Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not installable |
| 07:50.30 | james___ | hi, i just installed installed debian testing with manual selected package, what do I need to install to get my sound working (i have an intel motherboard)? |
| 07:50.41 | chezmoi | Depends: perl (>= 5.6) but it is not installable |
| 07:50.44 | chezmoi | that's it |
| 07:50.56 | dpkg | mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 3560 kB, Installed size: 8344 kB |
| 07:51.07 | chezmoi | i can't install perl |
| 07:51.13 | james___ | hi, i just installed debian testing with manual selected packages, what do I need to install to get my sound working (i have an intel motherboard)? |
| 07:51.14 | chezmoi | i get similar errors |
| 07:51.19 | liable | chezmoi: erm are you mixing repos? |
| 07:51.34 | Usiu | streuner, not on this |
| 07:51.42 | chezmoi | sorry? |
| 07:51.46 | liable | james___: dont repeat, install alsa-base alsa-utils |
| 07:51.50 | Usiu | streuner, http://rafb.net/paste/results/uc7Jd573.html |
| 07:52.05 | liable | chezmoi: paste your sources list |
| 07:52.09 | liable | chezmoi: not here |
| 07:52.14 | liable | !paster chezmoi |
| 07:52.15 | dpkg | chezmoi: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 07:52.15 | chezmoi | is there a way to reset everything |
| 07:52.16 | streuner | liable, he did |
| 07:52.21 | liable | oh |
| 07:52.24 | Usiu | streuner, I made base.tgz manualy cause create throw the same error.. |
| 07:52.38 | streuner | liable: <chezmoi> #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main |
| 07:52.39 | streuner | <chezmoi> deb http://debian.fastweb.it/debian/ stable main |
| 07:52.40 | james___ | liable: sorry, i realized i have typo, i did install those but the xmms still doesn't have any sound |
| 07:52.59 | liable | james___: check the output plugin |
| 07:53.17 | james___ | liable: can you be more specific? |
| 07:53.45 | Usiu | This is pain.. Can anybody help ?? |
| 07:54.21 | chezmoi | it would be great if i could restore dependencies |
| 07:54.25 | liable | james___: in the preferences for xmms |
| 07:54.29 | streuner | chezmo, what happens if you use 'apt-get install mysql-server' ? |
| 07:54.37 | chezmoi | again? |
| 07:54.39 | liable | chezmoi: you only have that one line in sources list? |
| 07:54.46 | chezmoi | yes |
| 07:54.48 | chezmoi | one line |
| 07:54.51 | streuner | hm |
| 07:54.57 | liable | chezmoi: run apt-setup |
| 07:55.06 | chezmoi | then |
| 07:55.10 | Usiu | ;/ |
| 07:55.11 | streuner | chezmoi: add the security.debian.org line to the sources.list |
| 07:55.11 | liable | chezmoi: its commented for starters.. |
| 07:55.31 | chezmoi | it will not fix it |
| 07:55.38 | liable | chezmoi: run apt-setup |
| 07:56.17 | streuner | chezm, deb http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 07:56.31 | chezmoi | OK |
| 07:56.35 | chezmoi | i will check this |
| 07:56.40 | chezmoi | bye then |
| 07:56.45 | streuner | chezmo, wait |
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| 07:57.44 | streuner | liable: he hasn't an s.d.o line, mysql packages had serveral fixes in sarge... |
| 07:58.01 | streuner | perl too |
| 07:58.11 | liable | streuner: yeah, he'll be back though i spose |
| 07:58.25 | liable | streuner: hopefully he saw your comment |
| 07:58.49 | streuner | doesn't apt-setup use s.d.o by default? |
| 07:59.20 | jm_ | it asks you about it yes |
| 07:59.45 | streuner | well, we'll see it |
| 07:59.57 | sifi-xz | does Brightlink includes RFID's? |
| 08:00.01 | Supaplex | Usiu: try sh -x `which pbuilder` login |
| 08:00.08 | pablum | what's this? is security.debian.org something I should have in my sources.list? |
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| 08:00.23 | streuner | pablum: only if you using sarge/stable |
| 08:00.37 | Supaplex | and only if you want security updates :) |
| 08:00.47 | pablum | oops... I edited using "etch" |
| 08:00.48 | streuner | Supalex: haha |
| 08:00.56 | liable | etch has security now. |
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| 08:01.05 | streuner | yeah |
| 08:01.08 | liable | !etch security |
| 08:01.08 | dpkg | i heard testing security is Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/, but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/, ask me about <secure-testing-master apt-key> |
| 08:01.29 | pablum | well, we'll see what happens (getting the package lists now) |
| 08:02.03 | Usiu | Sunblade, http://rafb.net/paste/results/9Btbdb91.html |
| 08:02.05 | ice_1963 | ti's not found |
| 08:02.07 | Supaplex | for cool |
| 08:02.46 | jair | guys, it is any good nice software out there to work with images beside the gimp? |
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| 08:02.57 | Supaplex | Usiu: so does your readlink not support -f ? (man readlink) |
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| 08:03.04 | liable | imagemagick for relitively simple stuff |
| 08:03.13 | pablum | huh, that suggests: deb http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main contrib non-free |
| 08:03.13 | jimb0 | have you even tried googling yet? |
| 08:03.26 | pablum | oops... that aint right |
| 08:03.33 | streuner | jair: what's wrong with gimp? |
| 08:03.36 | pablum | deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch/security-updates main contrib non-free |
| 08:03.50 | Usiu | Supaplex, it in man but with -f I get Need exacly one argument :P |
| 08:04.06 | Supaplex | where the %*@$ is that noisy fan in this room at *gah* |
| 08:04.14 | jair | streuner, hmm if I want to resize an ammount of images at the same time? |
| 08:04.20 | Supaplex | it's just noisy enough to hear, but not noisy enough to pinpoint |
| 08:04.42 | jair | streuner, I like the gimp to work in a very artistic way but just with one picture. |
| 08:04.59 | streuner | jair: what liable already told you |
| 08:05.27 | streuner | jair: look into the package imagemagick |
| 08:05.28 | liable | jair: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-graf2/?ca=dgr-lnxw15GraphicsLine |
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| 08:06.35 | dZen|n| | hello ppl |
| 08:06.49 | dZen|n| | have some of you tried auditor live linux `? |
| 08:06.49 | jair | streuner, and liable what flavor are you guys using of debian? |
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| 08:07.13 | streuner | jair: unstable and stable, why? |
| 08:07.18 | Usiu | Supaplex, this is strange http://channels.debian.net/paste/1785 |
| 08:07.21 | liable | same same |
| 08:07.31 | Usiu | Supaplex, when I use /bin/readlink it works fine |
| 08:07.42 | Usiu | Supaplex, when I use just readlink it has that problem |
| 08:07.53 | Supaplex | Usiu: maybe it's in internal, or something in your $PATH |
| 08:07.58 | jair | streuner, when I try to apt-get install imagemagick, it shows me that is installing it and everything but do not appear in my desktop, even goung to run the command? |
| 08:08.21 | liable | jair: its cli based, read the link i gave you. |
| 08:08.23 | jair | streuner, and I am using stable. |
| 08:08.33 | dZen|n| | have some of you tried auditor live linux `? |
| 08:08.34 | jair | liable, ok I will thanks. |
| 08:08.43 | pablum | sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
| 08:08.45 | pablum | ow! |
| 08:09.01 | Supaplex | dZen|n|: no, this is debian. you're in the #debian channel, we support #debian. |
| 08:09.02 | liable | jair: heres the first one for the series http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-graf/?ca=dnt-428 |
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| 08:09.35 | jair | liable, yes I will check that |
| 08:09.42 | dZen|n| | Supaplex: I know but maybe somebody knows, still it's linux |
| 08:09.44 | Usiu | Supaplex, found readlink in /usr/bin/ :P I have no idea.. why its there... |
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| 08:09.55 | Usiu | Supaplex, and this one is broken |
| 08:09.57 | Usiu | Supaplex, thx |
| 08:10.12 | Supaplex | Usiu: dpkg -S /usr/bin/readlink |
| 08:10.22 | litage | what's the difference between libmysqlclient10, libmysqlclient12 and libmysqlclient14 ? |
| 08:10.43 | jm_ | litage: apt-cache show will tell you |
| 08:11.16 | litage | jm_: i've read what apt-cache has to say, but it's not very helpful |
| 08:11.34 | Usiu | Supaplex, not found :P |
| 08:11.44 | Usiu | Supaplex, I already checked that |
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| 08:11.59 | Supaplex | Usiu: so where'd it come from? |
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| 08:12.07 | Usiu | Supaplex, heh it was a link to somekind of TeX stuff |
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| 08:12.17 | Supaplex | weird |
| 08:12.24 | jm_ | litage: yes it is |
| 08:12.40 | Usiu | Supaplex, I know... I had to ask someone else to build packages for me twice.. ;/ |
| 08:12.54 | Supaplex | not suggested :) |
| 08:12.58 | Usiu | Supaplex, but thx for help |
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| 08:13.08 | litage | jm_: it explains the difference between 10 and the others, but not between 12 and 14 |
| 08:13.14 | Supaplex | np |
| 08:13.16 | jm_ | litage: |grep Version |
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| 08:13.39 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:13.39 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 08:14.19 | jair | liable, so imagemagick is all a text commands to manipulte the images? |
| 08:14.29 | streuner | yes |
| 08:14.32 | Mkncty | hi, how config the headphone bluetooth on skype? |
| 08:14.36 | jair | liable, it is not gui involved on it. |
| 08:14.48 | liable | yes |
| 08:14.57 | jair | liable, yes?? |
| 08:15.02 | streuner | no |
| 08:15.12 | jair | I installed and I did not see it even in the menus? |
| 08:15.14 | liable | jair: no gui |
| 08:15.21 | jair | streuner, got it :) |
| 08:15.31 | jair | ok thank you for the documentations. |
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| 08:16.10 | nrdb | I am having trouble running scripts I have just done a full update, if I run a script "#> ./configure" i get "-su: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied" can anyone help? |
| 08:16.35 | streuner | !listvals bad interpreter |
| 08:16.40 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'bad interpreter' by value returned no results. |
| 08:17.22 | jm_ | that usually indicates configure script is fucked |
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| 08:17.40 | Supaplex | nrdb: line one of your script is either munged, or doesn't point to an interpreter. |
| 08:17.42 | streuner | apt, bad interpreter |
| 08:17.44 | apt | Bad interpreter, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 08:17.50 | Supaplex | haha |
| 08:17.56 | streuner | apt, forget bad interpreter |
| 08:17.56 | apt | streuner: i forgot bad interpreter |
| 08:18.42 | streuner | Supaplex: :-P |
| 08:18.52 | nrdb | jm_: the shebang line is correct "#! /bin/sh" the file does exist and what it links to. |
| 08:19.08 | pablum | #$!$% gpdf cannot be authenticated... Hmm. I never use it anyway. |
| 08:19.40 | streuner | dpkg, bad interpreter |
| 08:19.40 | dpkg | i guess bad-interpreter is a wrong #! line in a script, or script is in crlf - which is the case, if 'od -b filename|grep 015' returns something; ask me about crlf->unix - or script is not executable (use chmod +x on it), or script is on a partition mounted with the noexec (mounting with "user" implies that) option. |
| 08:20.21 | Supaplex | user disallows exec? |
| 08:20.38 | jm_ | nrdb: is it a proper Unix text file, no CRLF crap? |
| 08:20.40 | pablum | Supaplex, I think you have your head in your armpit. How's that relevant to me? |
| 08:22.27 | Supaplex | pablum: nm |
| 08:22.44 | nrdb | jm_: I don't know it is the configure script from mjpegtools-1.8.0 archive, the test for crlf given by dpkg: doesn't work. |
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| 08:23.40 | jm_ | nrdb: file will tell you |
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| 08:26.47 | nrdb | jm_: file says "configure: Bourne shell script text executable" |
| 08:27.20 | Zodo | Hello, all. I'm running Sarge, and have been having some troubles with OpenSSL. Numerous programs that I've tried to compile have choked when their dot-slash-configures look for OpenSSL or OpenSSL's headers. I've got all of the appropriate packages installed...OpenSSL, libssl-dev, etc. Does Debian put stuff in a non-standard directory? |
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| 08:29.16 | jm_ | nrdb: does it say only bad interpreter or also something else? |
| 08:29.16 | nikow | Hi, aircrack can crack code and connect to an AP. but if the AP has a firewall, there would still be no connection to the net. how to overcome this? |
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| 08:29.30 | jm_ | nrdb: does it have executable bit set? |
| 08:29.31 | streuner | Zodo: why are you not using the packages itself? |
| 08:30.04 | nrdb | jm_: here is something strange I copied the directory to /tmp it was on a NFS mounted, it is now executing it fine, it must be because the directory was on a NFS mounted partition. |
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| 08:30.22 | jm_ | nrdb: right |
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| 08:30.52 | Zodo | You mean the packages for the software I'm trying to compile? For some the packages available are old, others don't have packages available for debian. |
| 08:30.57 | nrdb | jm_: any ideas on what might be wrong? |
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| 08:31.43 | jm_ | nrdb: it probably doesn't have +x set or somesuch |
| 08:31.46 | Usiu | Ok I just installed new eclipse, the packages seems to be broken.. when I start eclipse I get exception about reading a configuration file... |
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| 08:32.02 | nrdb | jm_: yes it does. |
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| 08:32.44 | jm_ | nrdb: then it's mounted with noexec |
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| 08:33.03 | streuner | Zodo: for the debian packages look at there depends to resolve it |
| 08:33.14 | nrdb | I am trying to compile the mjpegtools archive it is complaining about not having jpeglib.h where do I get this from? |
| 08:33.23 | streuner | Zodo: and install the missing dev-packages |
| 08:33.25 | nrdb | jm_: i will check |
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| 08:33.39 | jm_ | !tell nrdb -about search |
| 08:33.39 | streuner | Zodo: /msg dpkg backports |
| 08:33.53 | streuner | Zodo: to get newer packages |
| 08:34.26 | streuner | Zodo: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 08:34.45 | Zodo | Nonetheless...where does deb put the main openssl directory that should be under /usr/local ? |
| 08:34.55 | streuner | nah |
| 08:35.12 | streuner | /usr/local/ is the folder where all selfcompiled stuff is |
| 08:35.23 | nrdb | jm_: the /etc/fstab has the options of "user" maybe I should make that "user,defaults" ? |
| 08:35.34 | jm_ | nrdb: yeah, user implies noexec |
| 08:35.55 | liable | heh, thats caught me out before.. :) |
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| 08:35.59 | jm_ | Zodo: no, Debian does it fine |
| 08:36.35 | nrdb | jm_: done net time i reboot it will be mounted differently. |
| 08:36.35 | mordain | zodo: use find |
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| 08:37.10 | pablum | Zodo: "locate openssl" |
| 08:37.43 | Zodo | Aha...that locate openssl command was what I was looking for. Thanks. |
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| 08:38.06 | pablum | s/b in /usr/lib |
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| 08:39.11 | pablum | OT: http://www.lmii.com/CartTwo/Rosettes.html |
| 08:41.20 | nrdb | jm_: I installed apt-file but it is saying "sh: curl: command not found" what now? do I "apt-get install curl" ? |
| 08:42.57 | liable | deadcat: you awake? |
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| 08:43.18 | streuner | nrdb: yes |
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| 08:44.40 | jm_ | nrdb: the version I use is using wget |
| 08:45.14 | ircdevil | liable: i got the friggin wlan working! 1) firewall 2) too old wpa_supplicant |
| 08:45.43 | liable | ircdevil: :) but you were using wep? |
| 08:45.59 | liable | ircdevil: congrats anyway :) |
| 08:46.07 | ircdevil | liable: i decided againt it |
| 08:46.07 | liable | good thing.. |
| 08:46.10 | ircdevil | liable: yeah, that was a tuf one |
| 08:46.43 | sigma | nrdb: then install curl and kick the maintainers back for not including it in dependency |
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| 08:47.43 | liable | heh, read hoarycripple as hairynipple.. :) |
| 08:48.24 | nrdb | jm_: it doesn't seem to be working!! i don't think it downloading anything. |
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| 08:49.15 | ircdevil | liable: what is that? |
| 08:49.17 | sigma | nrdb: you mean apt-file? |
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| 08:49.32 | liable | ircdevil: what? |
| 08:49.39 | nrdb | sigma: yes |
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| 08:49.54 | ircdevil | liable: <liable> heh, read hoarycripple as hairynipple.. :) |
| 08:50.00 | N0S3 | hello i use screen, how i can set a password in screenrc? |
| 08:50.07 | sigma | nrdb: can you run apt-get update&upgrade properly as it should? |
| 08:50.24 | liable | ircdevil: hoarycripple just joined and i read it as hairynipple.. |
| 08:50.35 | nrdb | sigma: yes! just done that a few minutes ago. |
| 08:50.44 | ircdevil | liable: heh |
| 08:51.04 | sigma | hm |
| 08:51.08 | ircdevil | liable: remember the shaver |
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| 08:51.13 | nrdb | sigma: jm_: the file it got is 337 bytes.. |
| 08:51.14 | liable | haha |
| 08:51.25 | pablum | I once knew a girl with a hairy nipple |
| 08:51.33 | ircdevil | pablum: eeek! |
| 08:51.34 | pablum | someone else finish the limerick? |
| 08:51.51 | sigma | nrdb: try run with -v |
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| 08:52.13 | vimman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:52.18 | liable | unfortunately as much as i want to, i think #debian isnt the place for limmeriks |
| 08:52.42 | sigma | vimman: try iso9660 |
| 08:52.49 | pablum | shucks |
| 08:53.14 | liable | auto should work though, bet iso9660 pukes too.. is it an audio cd? |
| 08:53.16 | vimman | sigma: it says wrong fs type |
| 08:53.29 | vimman | no.. it has video files stored |
| 08:53.32 | nrdb | sigma: have a look at http://pastebin.com/548040 |
| 08:53.46 | sigma | vimman: what says the line in fstab about cdrom? |
| 08:54.21 | vimman | .. /dev/hdb /media/cdrom iso9660 pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed,ro 0 0 |
| 08:54.25 | sigma | hm, IIRC there was a command to analysize the FS type of a media... what was that again |
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| 08:55.39 | vimman | eject |
| 08:55.42 | vimman | sorry .. |
| 08:55.52 | Supaplex | sigma: file ? |
| 08:56.38 | jm_ | nrdb: then use dpkg the bot for now |
| 08:57.06 | nrdb | jm_: I don't understand |
| 08:57.30 | jm_ | nrdb: /msg dpkg find filenam |
| 08:57.36 | noiesmo | hey all, trying to compile ptpcam on debian unstable, it seems to configure then ok, then errors out any one compiled it, it dependends on libusb which is installed any suggestions |
| 08:58.46 | pablum | noiesmo, you probably need libusb-dev - userspace USB programming library development files |
| 08:59.26 | Supaplex | dpkg -i more-sleep |
| 08:59.31 | noiesmo | pablum, already have the latest |
| 08:59.31 | Supaplex | ahh, that's better |
| 08:59.46 | pablum | heh |
| 08:59.47 | ircdevil | oh dear, the first mac shurely was ugly (todays featured article in WP) |
| 09:00.11 | Supaplex | ircdevil: far from 'sheek' ? |
| 09:00.25 | noiesmo | could gcc version be issue?? |
| 09:01.02 | pablum | noiesmo, what's the error message? |
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| 09:01.37 | xstasi | hi all |
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| 09:01.58 | noiesmo | pablum, ptp.lo error 1 |
| 09:02.08 | nrdb | can someone please tell me what package jpeglib.h is in? |
| 09:02.11 | xstasi | is there some documentation on how to create separated debian packages like foo,foo-data? |
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| 09:02.28 | xstasi | nrdb: apt-get install apt-file , apt-file update , apt-file search jpeglib.h ;) |
| 09:02.43 | noiesmo | pablum, it spits out a heap of warnings with pointer targets |
| 09:02.50 | MrNaz | anyone got any idea how big /var should be on a medium load db/web server? 10gb? |
| 09:02.52 | nrdb | xstasi: tried that apt-file isn't working. |
| 09:02.53 | noiesmo | pablum, when running make |
| 09:03.00 | xstasi | nrdb: did you update first? |
| 09:03.13 | nrdb | xstasi: it won't update |
| 09:03.21 | noiesmo | does anyone know of any apt sources for libptp or ptpcam |
| 09:03.22 | sigma | nrdb: mozilla-dev: usr/include/mozilla/jpeg/jpeglib.h |
| 09:03.22 | xstasi | nrdb: did you install curl? |
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| 09:03.34 | nrdb | xstasi: yes |
| 09:03.40 | nrdb | sigma: thanks |
| 09:03.42 | xstasi | nrdb: strange then. it is working for me |
| 09:03.52 | xstasi | by the way |
| 09:03.56 | pablum | warnings aren't errors... |
| 09:04.03 | xstasi | any debian packager here that knows the answer to my question? |
| 09:04.14 | xstasi | 09:59 < xstasi> is there some documentation on how to create separated debian packages like foo,foo-data? |
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| 09:05.48 | jm_ | xstasi: take a look at how other packages do it |
| 09:06.10 | xstasi | jm_: i tried but i can't understand what exactly makes a file belong to a package instead of another |
| 09:06.16 | noiesmo | pablum, fair enough is there a make log like a config.log or not? |
| 09:06.51 | noiesmo | is there a way to see what make is error on |
| 09:07.04 | pablum | if you make it: "make >makeout-withgirls.txt 2>&1 |
| 09:07.09 | xstasi | jm_: do you know it? |
| 09:07.44 | liable | xstasi: try debian-mentors mailing list |
| 09:07.58 | noiesmo | pablum, heres the spam from running make http://pastebin.com/548048 |
| 09:08.12 | xstasi | liable: is there something a bit quicker than a ML? |
| 09:08.56 | liable | xstasi: not sure, but i think theres a debian-mentors on oftc |
| 09:09.06 | jm_ | xstasi: it's done via debian/pkgname-foo.files |
| 09:09.08 | liable | #debian-mentors.. |
| 09:09.51 | xstasi | jm_: i've taken as example the ppracer package |
| 09:10.36 | xstasi | the file is called planetpenguin-racer-data.docs |
| 09:10.57 | xstasi | but it has nothing to do with what ppracer-data is actually containing |
| 09:12.08 | pablum | noiesmo, that doesn't help... sorry |
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| 09:13.15 | noiesmo | pablum, np dude, thats all i get , might see if i can find a deb package with it |
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| 09:14.02 | dna_ | How do I f ind out what is installed on my usb? |
| 09:14.19 | noiesmo | dna, lsusb |
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| 09:16.27 | liable | for those that like eye candy, this is pretty fucking impressive.. http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi |
| 09:16.28 | dna_ | noiesmo, the command is not there :( |
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| 09:17.29 | giandeibrughi | hi |
| 09:17.31 | pablum | noiesmo, paste again (after running "make clean" or starting with a clean src dir) using the -w flag for make... |
| 09:17.41 | spo0nman | how do i define a 3 spaced tab in vi? |
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| 09:18.11 | tarzeau | liable: it's fucking 60mb! |
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| 09:18.24 | giandeibrughi | i use debian on a sun ultrasparc, where i can ask for help? |
| 09:18.32 | tarzeau | giandeibrughi: #sparc or here |
| 09:18.34 | bushwakko | hey, can anyone tell me where and how to install java stuff on debian? |
| 09:18.35 | memic | howto turn off "CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode" |
| 09:18.39 | liable | tarzeau: yeah, but its pretty cool though. (if your into that sort of thing) |
| 09:18.41 | tarzeau | spo0nman: i know how to do that in mcedit |
| 09:18.43 | giandeibrughi | good |
| 09:18.53 | bushwakko | if I have a java app I want to install, where to I put the jar's and what is the common standard to start them? |
| 09:19.01 | noiesmo | pablum, here it is might try older version of libusb or maybe older version of lipptp http://pastebin.com/548059 |
| 09:19.03 | pablum | spo0nman, :help tabstop (in Vim) |
| 09:19.05 | spo0nman | tarzeau: congratulations. |
| 09:19.06 | tarzeau | liable: i am fine if the computer does the work fast and then enjoy other things that are fucking impressive beautiful ;) |
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| 09:19.25 | spo0nman | pablum: set ts=3 will do that ... but will it make changes to the file? |
| 09:19.29 | liable | tarzeau: yeah, i shudder to think what specs you might need for this.. |
| 09:19.49 | tarzeau | liable: i think content is > presentation |
| 09:19.51 | liable | tarzeau: certainly wont work on a P3 :) |
| 09:20.06 | nrdb | sigma: jpeglib.h wasn't in mozilla-dev! |
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| 09:20.20 | liable | nrdb: theres several apps have it.. |
| 09:20.26 | pablum | spo0nman, no it's interpretive. You want to convert a "tab" to spaces? |
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| 09:21.12 | liable | nrdb: ecos, libjpeg-mmx-dev, libjpeg62-dev, mozilla-dev |
| 09:21.18 | tarzeau | liable: fucking firefox downloaded anyways even i say abort |
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| 09:21.29 | nrdb | liable: thanks |
| 09:21.30 | liable | tarzeau: might as well watch :) |
| 09:21.33 | tarzeau | liable: and it comes in windows media player cannot play the file... CRAP where is that file so i can load it up into mplayer? |
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| 09:21.59 | optraz | hello, im using kernel 2.6.8-2-386, but when i search for its header using apt, i cant seem to find it. anybody know how ? |
| 09:22.02 | tarzeau | ah dir /s finds it |
| 09:22.04 | liable | tarzeau: eh? how do i know where windows puts it? |
| 09:22.13 | spo0nman | pablum: yes. |
| 09:22.23 | spo0nman | pablum: well no. |
| 09:22.42 | spo0nman | pablum: but what will happen if say i cat it. 4 spaces 6 spaces 3 spaces? |
| 09:23.10 | giandeibrughi | i loaded the correct driver but the audio still does not works! |
| 09:23.22 | giandeibrughi | i have a sun ultra2 |
| 09:23.48 | pablum | if you cat, a tab is a tab... |
| 09:23.51 | MrNaz | does debian sarge use Reiser4 or a different version? |
| 09:24.09 | dna_ | I have a UM-1 Rolland Midi usb device but it is not recognized, how do I get it o become recognized? |
| 09:24.11 | liable | i dont think sarge has ricer4 |
| 09:24.46 | Acid`X | its 'sarge' the stable version of debian right now? |
| 09:24.48 | optraz | hello, im using kernel 2.6.8-2-386, but when i search for its header using apt, i cant seem to find it. anybody know how ? |
| 09:24.52 | liable | Acid`X: yes |
| 09:25.13 | Acid`X | liable: ty |
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| 09:25.23 | liable | optraz: apt-cache search kernel-headers-2.6 |
| 09:25.35 | nrdb | liable: I can only find the 'libjpeg-progs' package none of the others seem to be listed. |
| 09:25.43 | tarzeau | liable: yes it looks funky |
| 09:25.56 | liable | nrdb: oh, that was from apt-file in sid.. |
| 09:26.00 | tarzeau | liable: funny those gum windows |
| 09:26.51 | tarzeau | liable: if only it wasn't GNOME |
| 09:26.55 | liable | tarzeau: yeah, i think it would be a hit if the masses could get it going.. |
| 09:27.04 | liable | tarzeau: heh, thats what i was thinking :) |
| 09:27.09 | tarzeau | liable: :) |
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| 09:27.28 | Acid`X | anyone knows if the netinstall for stable has the module for SATA HDs? |
| 09:27.51 | liable | Acid`X: for some controllers, yes. |
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| 09:28.07 | kartik_ | !seen stockhalm |
| 09:28.08 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'stockhalm', kartik_ |
| 09:28.25 | Acid`X | i have a old cd of woody, but doesnt recognize the hd |
| 09:28.38 | liable | Acid`X: whats the controller? |
| 09:28.54 | Acid`X | nvidia i guess |
| 09:29.05 | liable | !vague |
| 09:29.05 | dpkg | Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 09:29.09 | Acid`X | its a nforce3 msi motherboard |
| 09:29.14 | noiesmo | if i have apt-get installed a package and I compile a later version should i apt-get remove the older on before make install |
| 09:29.18 | liable | Acid`X: can you do lspci? |
| 09:29.22 | liable | ah |
| 09:29.34 | Acid`X | not in linux atm |
| 09:29.39 | Acid`X | hehe |
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| 09:30.05 | tarzeau | liable: pretty impressive |
| 09:30.10 | liable | great.. firefox wont let me open a new tab. |
| 09:30.17 | tarzeau | liable: hahaha :) |
| 09:30.30 | liable | tarzeau: yeah, i dont go much on it, but it is pretty cool though. |
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| 09:30.57 | Acid`X | liable: i know ubuntu, suse and centos doesnt have problem with it, but no idea on wich controller is using |
| 09:31.27 | liable | Acid`X: yeah, they prolly have newer kernels than sarge. |
| 09:31.47 | liable | Acid`X: does the sarge cd see it with 2.6 boot option? |
| 09:31.48 | Acid`X | same as the ethernet card, its a nv but i think it use a generic module for 1gb nics |
| 09:31.52 | tarzeau | liable: i wonder if that shit'd also work with xawtv |
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| 09:32.18 | liable | tarzeau: no idea |
| 09:32.21 | Acid`X | havent download a new cd, wondering wich one to download |
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| 09:32.43 | tarzeau | liable: and what happens with xinerama |
| 09:33.12 | liable | tarzeau: whilst on acid! |
| 09:33.15 | kartik_ | !seen stockholm |
| 09:33.16 | dpkg | stockholm <n=andi@petrus.schuldei.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 111d 13h 10m 23s ago, saying: 'ah, you discuss alsa already?'. |
| 09:33.24 | tarzeau | liable: if you can get acid... can you? |
| 09:33.41 | liable | tarzeau: many years ago.. |
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| 09:33.51 | optraz | liable, u try to search that, it didnt have what i need |
| 09:33.52 | optraz | :/ |
| 09:33.56 | nrdb | I know this is a lame question but what is the name of the current version of debian? |
| 09:34.05 | tarzeau | liable: gnome looked pretty boring, pale itself.. |
| 09:34.32 | liable | nrdb: sarge is the latest stable release.. |
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| 09:35.23 | liable | optraz: well, then you misspelled or dont run debian.. |
| 09:35.35 | Rawplayer | mogguh |
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| 09:36.00 | liable | optraz: you have more than just cd1 for repos? |
| 09:36.55 | pablum | more wine please... |
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| 09:37.17 | optraz | liable, cd1 for repos? what are you talking? |
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| 09:37.38 | liable | !reference |
| 09:37.38 | dpkg | reference is probably The Debian Reference. Will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. |
| 09:37.41 | liable | optraz: ^^ |
| 09:38.01 | ootput | oh debianplanet, how i miss thee |
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| 09:38.14 | tarzeau | ootput: really? |
| 09:38.18 | liable | debian planet? |
| 09:38.25 | tarzeau | !dp |
| 09:38.25 | dpkg | well, debianplanet is http://www.debianplanet.org: Free Beer for the users of the Free Linux of a Free Planet. Debian community site. Founders: robster + Netsnipe Editors: agl, solomon, flugh Uberguru: ZaNaGa, or DP present no content, in a tactless manner that is un-paralleled by other site that lack talent |
| 09:38.26 | liable | or p.d.o? |
| 09:38.45 | ootput | what I said |
| 09:39.13 | airlied | anyone got the debian admin openssh package? 3.9p1-2.dsa.3? and source packages for fd.o.. |
| 09:39.19 | dna_ | what is up with the GPL v 3? |
| 09:39.30 | tarzeau | dna_: #gnu |
| 09:39.36 | liable | dna_: or ##linux |
| 09:39.58 | airlied | you would think this package would be available somewhere on the Internet like in a debian archive.. |
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| 09:41.09 | liable | airlied: unfortunately p.d.o has been down a while, so searching for that stuff is a bit hard atm. |
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| 09:42.07 | tarzeau | sucks that copyright/changelogs are not available |
| 09:42.24 | noiesmo | I want to tell make were to find a particular library how do i do this |
| 09:42.25 | liable | yeah. sucks all round pretty much.. |
| 09:42.31 | tarzeau | very. indeed |
| 09:42.32 | ootput | you're confusing the two |
| 09:43.17 | liable | no, we know what we are talking about, surprised anyone misses debian-planet :) |
| 09:43.30 | tarzeau | liable: same here |
| 09:43.38 | tarzeau | liable: it's been dead for so long now |
| 09:43.45 | tarzeau | ootput: know dwn? |
| 09:44.37 | ootput | tarzeau: come again? |
| 09:44.39 | pablum | noiesmo, doesn't that software use automake/autoconf/libtool? |
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| 09:44.47 | tarzeau | !DWN |
| 09:44.47 | dpkg | Debian Weekly News at http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/ . You can also get it emailed to you weekly by subscribing to the debian-news list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/ or by sending an email with the subject 'subscribe' and no body to debian-news-request@lists.debian.org |
| 09:44.53 | sobersabre | hi gpl q. |
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| 09:44.54 | tarzeau | ootput: do you read dwn? |
| 09:44.56 | ronino | hi |
| 09:45.06 | ootput | tarzeau: oh. yeah, i know of it |
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| 09:45.17 | sobersabre | linksys have been somehow forced to open the source of their routers. |
| 09:45.20 | sobersabre | right ? |
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| 09:45.24 | sobersabre | i mean the firmware. |
| 09:45.25 | nook | I've read in manual such thing: "If you want it to run automatically when the machine is booted, then place the following script in your startup directory. (/etc/init.d/rcX.d)." The problem is, that I haven't got /etc/init.d/rcX.d. I know that X is [1-9]. Where should I place it to run automaticaly? |
| 09:45.38 | ronino | i want to execute a script every hour and thus copied it to /etc/cron.hourly, but it's not run, do i have to make the script known in some cron config file or something? |
| 09:45.47 | liable | sobersabre: erm, i dunno if forced is correct, i think they chose open source.. |
| 09:45.48 | SerajewelKS | sobersabre: and that has what to do with debian? |
| 09:45.54 | ootput | tarzeau: it's been accumulating in my mailbox for a while now |
| 09:46.14 | sobersabre | SerajewelKS it has. |
| 09:46.23 | liable | sobersabre: and thank fuck for that, cause they suck at doing it! :) |
| 09:46.28 | ootput | I really ought to subscribe to less mailing lists |
| 09:46.33 | ootput | or frequent less newsgroups |
| 09:46.34 | SerajewelKS | sobersabre: can you explain what it has to do with debian? |
| 09:47.09 | tarzeau | ootput: yeah i hate too much mails (especially those not addressed directly to me). i read the stuff online |
| 09:47.24 | tarzeau | ootput: or as newsgroups |
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| 09:47.38 | sobersabre | my q. is: if i run linux kernel (say, it runs debian), and modify it, do I _have_ to open the source for the world ? |
| 09:47.38 | ootput | tarzeau: i'm not particularly fond of the online interface (gmane takes a while to process for me) |
| 09:47.56 | tarzeau | ootput: neither am i, but certainly i don't like the stuff in my mailbox |
| 09:48.09 | ootput | tarzeau: that's what led me to newsgroups |
| 09:48.20 | ootput | tarzeau: and now that I'm bored with that.. who knows, rss |
| 09:48.22 | Garda | hey guys. setting up vnc4server. what is the syntax for the file /home/garda/.vnc/passwd is it the same at /etc/passwd |
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| 09:49.02 | sobersabre | SerajewelKS it is related to debian, because debian... is used by me, and i think this is a competent chan. SerajewelKS if you know of any other suitable chan, for this discussion, i will be happy to switch there. |
| 09:49.42 | noiesmo | pablum, ok its just that i am trying to compile libptp for ptpcam tool as discussed. so I am now trying to compile all from scratch again i have version 0.1.11 of libusb as reported by libtool-config --version commad yet when i try to compile libptp it complains about not haveing version libusb 0.1.6 |
| 09:49.58 | ootput | the thing with newsgroups, is that although you only fetch the headers, in order to see the conversation in it's entirety (which isn't as common since most replies aren't quoted well,) you'd need to fetch the o.p and a majority of responses too; it's even less efficient that just looking at the threaded mailbox |
| 09:50.00 | pitillo | Garda, man vnc4server, see the password section to see if its plain text |
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| 09:50.57 | liable | sobersabre: thats more to do with the gpl than debian. try #gpl? (if it exists) |
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| 09:51.38 | ootput | and afaik, rss feeds pertaining to a certain topic aren't heirarchial, so there goes that idea |
| 09:51.41 | sobersabre | liable the problem is that the true statement is 0==(exists(#gpl)) |
| 09:51.56 | airlied | so is there like any debian server admins around? |
| 09:52.01 | sobersabre | i'll try #linux |
| 09:52.03 | Garda | thanks pitillo. found out i needed man vncpasswd |
| 09:52.10 | ootput | airlied: most debian users are :) |
| 09:52.12 | liable | i am not a bash prompt! :) |
| 09:52.25 | ootput | unless you're looking for a bofh |
| 09:52.35 | ootput | in which case I'm sure there's plenty :) |
| 09:52.47 | airlied | ootput: I mean an admin of an debian.org server.. |
| 09:53.20 | ootput | airlied: oh. there's probably a dedicated channel for that sort of thing. |
| 09:54.06 | pablum | sobersabre, you might want to ask on #gnu but the short answer is no as long as you have no intention of distributing it with the modifications (compiled or not) |
| 09:54.06 | pablum | usage is not restricted, only distribution. |
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| 09:54.31 | mcgreg | hi |
| 09:54.35 | ootput | g'day |
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| 09:55.39 | ootput | do any of you know if surfraw handles operators well (in the case of google searches?) |
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| 09:55.47 | mcgreg | hmm I have a question. usually I write dvds with 8x speed (with k3b - no problem, not even that much cpu-usage). now I read a dvd with growisofs (1x speed it seems) and it eats all cpu time (though this dvd is a video-dvd) |
| 09:55.52 | rr | hi |
| 09:56.11 | mcgreg | anyone understand why I have full-cpu-usage on this? |
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| 09:59.01 | liable | Mr_Morden: what do you mean by read a dvd with growisofs? |
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| 09:59.28 | mcgreg | <-- mcgreg :) but ... Copy DVD, k3b uses growisofs for it |
| 09:59.54 | liable | err, mcgreg ^^ that was for you.. :) |
| 10:00.01 | mcgreg | :) |
| 10:01.04 | liable | mcgreg: but what are you trying to do with growisofs? |
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| 10:01.51 | mcgreg | liable: k3b uses growisofs to read out dvd, into image, then write it back to a dvd (just a dvd-copy) |
| 10:02.16 | MrNaz | can anyone tell me if debian amd64 distribution is a good idea to be using? |
| 10:02.18 | davi_ | How to disable the been on all xterm, rxvt, etc ?. I know how to disable it on konsole, using its menu. |
| 10:02.27 | deadcat | MrNaz: sure |
| 10:02.35 | ootput | davi_: bell? |
| 10:02.43 | mcgreg | MrNaz: debian is already a good choice :) |
| 10:02.44 | jm_ | growisofs doesn't have any such capabilities |
| 10:02.50 | mcgreg | always, I meant |
| 10:02.51 | deadcat | davi_: the f is been on all? |
| 10:02.56 | davi_ | yest ootput |
| 10:03.11 | deadcat | davi_: xset b off |
| 10:03.17 | MrNaz | deadcat / mcgreg yeap.... i should have indicated i was using it on a production server with missions critical apps running off it |
| 10:03.21 | davi_ | thanks deadcat |
| 10:03.22 | ootput | deadcat: :) |
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| 10:03.41 | MrNaz | still a good idea? |
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| 10:03.53 | deadcat | MrNaz: what you gonna use then? |
| 10:03.56 | deadcat | if not debian |
| 10:04.03 | MrNaz | debian i386 |
| 10:04.21 | MrNaz | remember opterons run 32bit x86 stuff just fine hehe |
| 10:04.34 | deadcat | this is 64 |
| 10:04.36 | dark_light | wich command i use to get in one line various others lines? it's like xargs, i don't remember |
| 10:04.36 | mcgreg | jm_: well, then maybe it just uses it to write ther dvd. no idea then what reads out the dvd. but it is still slow (1x) and eats all cpu-time... which is hardly possible |
| 10:05.05 | deadcat | davi_: xargs |
| 10:05.10 | MrNaz | deadcat yea... what im asking is this: "is the debian amd64 port stable enough to use in a production environment?" |
| 10:05.11 | liable | mcgreg: erm, i dont think growisofs does that.. its prolly dvd+-tools? |
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| 10:05.29 | deadcat | MrNaz: hell to the yes |
| 10:05.32 | rr | how's 3D acceleration support for ati x1600 series in xorg? |
| 10:05.37 | mcgreg | liable: k3b clearly said growisofs (at least for writing) |
| 10:05.40 | liable | deadcat: you should lke this.. http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi |
| 10:05.44 | deadcat | rr: default driver.. suck |
| 10:05.55 | liable | mcgreg: yes.. for writing, not making copies. |
| 10:05.56 | deadcat | liable: downloading |
| 10:05.59 | dark_light | errr. yes deadcat it's xargs o.o |
| 10:06.05 | deadcat | k |
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| 10:06.35 | airlied | rr: we don't even have 2D for x1600.. |
| 10:06.39 | deadcat | mcgreg: it uses dd (= |
| 10:06.42 | mcgreg | liable: now it already reads 15minutes and it made 20% .. ;) |
| 10:06.46 | mcgreg | dd? |
| 10:06.51 | rr | ok thanx |
| 10:07.54 | ootput | slow download |
| 10:07.58 | liable | mcgreg: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ |
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| 10:08.07 | liable | mcgreg: apt-cahe search dvd |
| 10:08.11 | deadcat | 158kps here |
| 10:08.14 | liable | cache even.. |
| 10:08.18 | deadcat | maxed out my down (= |
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| 10:09.10 | liable | mcgreg: k3b is a front end to quite a few apps. |
| 10:09.14 | mcgreg | liable: hmmm I think I have all dvd-toolos already installed what are available in apt :) |
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| 10:09.44 | mcgreg | liable: yes, I know k3b is a GUI for all that stuff |
| 10:10.01 | liable | mcgreg: read the link i gave |
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| 10:10.06 | mcgreg | oki |
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| 10:14.41 | deadcat | liable: holly shit. thats hella nice. |
| 10:14.45 | deadcat | the features rock |
| 10:14.56 | deadcat | but i bet hes using a really nice hardware setups |
| 10:15.21 | liable | deadcat: yeah, i bet the specs are pretty damn high.. cool though. |
| 10:15.42 | deadcat | liable: ya. maybe in 2 years we get that. |
| 10:15.51 | deadcat | even his demo looks laggy from time to tome |
| 10:15.52 | ootput | wow, that demo is fucking sweet |
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| 10:15.57 | liable | like the 3d workspace. |
| 10:16.05 | ootput | yeah |
| 10:16.18 | deadcat | and hes using the best ahrdwares |
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| 10:16.26 | liable | yerp |
| 10:16.29 | ootput | it reminded me of e17's effects |
| 10:16.41 | deadcat | e17 is NOT that fancy (= |
| 10:16.48 | deadcat | these features are actually useful |
| 10:17.06 | deadcat | oh shit. the osx expose thing (= |
| 10:17.09 | deadcat | i fucking want that |
| 10:17.11 | ootput | :) |
| 10:17.25 | ootput | i'm up to the part where he's moving the movie windows |
| 10:17.27 | deadcat | oh my fucking god. i just came (= |
| 10:17.30 | ootput | Senator Palpatine |
| 10:17.34 | liable | oh dear.. |
| 10:17.34 | owner | the flame effect and rain is really cool in e17 |
| 10:17.35 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 10:18.02 | ootput | omg, overlapping transparent movie windows |
| 10:18.08 | deadcat | yeep |
| 10:18.10 | deadcat | crazy |
| 10:18.10 | Eclipser | useless really :p |
| 10:18.17 | ootput | where did you see his specs, deadcat ? |
| 10:18.21 | liable | but looks cool all the same.. |
| 10:18.33 | Eclipser | well maybe, but I rather use my CPU power on something useful |
| 10:18.41 | deadcat | ootput: i am on the star wars section. |
| 10:18.44 | ootput | hehe |
| 10:18.49 | tarzeau | dvd writing on linux sucks |
| 10:18.50 | liable | totally useless eye candy, but nice to see the development.. |
| 10:19.05 | Eclipser | e16 is/was a mess |
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| 10:19.14 | ootput | but infinitely configurable |
| 10:19.31 | deadcat | liable: the alt+tab thing is useful. the expose thing is usefull. compare it to skippy (shit software) |
| 10:19.32 | Eclipser | the configs broke too often :p |
| 10:19.34 | ootput | i still use the blue-nix (?) theme on one of my olderboxes |
| 10:19.41 | liable | theres always at least one to bag the shit out of anything.. :) |
| 10:19.47 | mcgreg | tarzeau: hmm why? I can write dvds with 8x.. just this reading is a little strange. maybe becasue it is a video-dvd |
| 10:20.00 | ootput | and of course, a demo wouldn't be complete without Quake footage :) |
| 10:20.07 | deadcat | damn q3 too |
| 10:20.11 | tarzeau | mcgreg: using patched cdrtools(cdrecord)? |
| 10:20.15 | tarzeau | mcgreg: which kernel? |
| 10:20.28 | ootput | two years you say? |
| 10:20.39 | deadcat | ya |
| 10:20.41 | ootput | that'd give Tuomov enough time to reject it :D |
| 10:20.49 | mcgreg | 2.6.15 atm. I didnt patch anything on my own, dunno if there are any changed in ther debian-kernel# |
| 10:20.49 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 10:21.00 | owner | e17 will be more popular than kde i heard |
| 10:21.07 | liable | mcgreg: dvdbackup |
| 10:21.12 | tarzeau | mcgreg: were your dvds larger than 800 mb? |
| 10:21.14 | cplx | how do I format a partition as reiser fs? |
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| 10:21.21 | tarzeau | cplx: mkfs.reiserfs? |
| 10:21.24 | tarzeau | !ricer |
| 10:21.24 | dpkg | methinks ricer is at gentoo |
| 10:21.29 | tarzeau | !ricerfs |
| 10:21.29 | dpkg | [ricerfs] the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
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| 10:21.35 | cplx | tarzeau: mkfs.resierfs /dev/hdb1 |
| 10:21.35 | cplx | ? |
| 10:21.36 | liable | owner: yeah if it ever actually releases.. |
| 10:21.39 | tarzeau | cplx: probably |
| 10:21.43 | ootput | owner: as long as e17 can take advantage of cpu-efficient rendering that'll be introduced in the near future |
| 10:21.57 | owner | its eyecandy is pretty cpu efficient |
| 10:21.58 | owner | as it is |
| 10:22.01 | mcgreg | tarzeau: my dvds? usually the are upto 4,3GB :) 800mb.. maybe you m,ean cds? well, overwrite diesnt qwork here, if you mean that |
| 10:22.08 | owner | its been under development since 2001 |
| 10:22.15 | owner | i believe |
| 10:22.18 | tarzeau | mcgreg: no i really mean dvd |
| 10:22.19 | fireba11 | e17 is enlightenment i take it ? |
| 10:22.25 | liable | yerp |
| 10:22.26 | owner | yes fire |
| 10:22.27 | ootput | owner: probably longer |
| 10:22.27 | tarzeau | mcgreg: ok interesting to hear that. stable or sid? |
| 10:22.36 | tarzeau | mcgreg: 2.6 linux kernel? |
| 10:22.38 | mcgreg | unstable, always latest stuff |
| 10:22.41 | mcgreg | 2.6.15 |
| 10:22.47 | tarzeau | mcgreg: debian or own? |
| 10:22.50 | liable | !penis |
| 10:22.50 | dpkg | hmm... penis is the male reproductive organ, or the male reproductive organ_ |
| 10:22.51 | ootput | the modules were developed late 00 |
| 10:22.52 | mcgreg | debian |
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| 10:23.06 | owner | dpkg lol |
| 10:23.06 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 10:23.23 | owner | dpkg heh |
| 10:23.23 | dpkg | Many would say that heh is #debian's favourite word, so not a good idea for your nick if you want hilighting to work. "heh" is not punctuation, so do not use it as such. Or http://odinnet.ath.cx/~erik/heh |
| 10:23.39 | sep | liable, nothing about it's waste removal qualifications ? |
| 10:23.42 | resiak | !tell owner -about msgdpkg |
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| 10:24.27 | liable | sep: um? the penis? i was actually after a penis wave, but anyway.. :) |
| 10:24.29 | ootput | hehe |
| 10:24.35 | tarzeau | !penix |
| 10:24.35 | dpkg | [penix] a highly sophisticated eggdrop bot, thought to be the predecessor of SkyNet, or madly in love with NewOS, or a crack whore, or my hero, or a Theo-loving hippy, or wants to have Alan Cox's baby. A sexy bitch. http://penix.mine.nu/images/gamp.jpg, or 'I don't exist. I live in a world that you cannot even imagine. full of gamp, fast cars, beautiful women and hardware', or a regular extra on Kingswood Country, or the shiznit, or a US Marine |
| 10:24.46 | deadcat | liable: his setup is amazing. so this is the new stuff? |
| 10:25.06 | liable | deadcat: dunno, just got the link from another channel |
| 10:25.17 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 10:25.18 | dpkg | somebody said qotd111 was <Cray2> stoned: take my advice, for GODS SAKE dont use WinME as a router |
| 10:25.25 | tarzeau | heh and penix got two broken links! |
| 10:25.39 | liable | penix wasnt a bot.. |
| 10:25.51 | liable | was it? |
| 10:25.55 | liable | !wenas |
| 10:25.56 | dpkg | [wenas] Spanish term for someone who likes to stuff small rodents and tomatoes up their rectum. |
| 10:26.02 | liable | hahaha |
| 10:27.21 | ootput | gross |
| 10:28.20 | deadcat | ootput: when debian has xgl shits i will upgrade my 800mhz (=.. so far my nvidia 128MB card is not performing its best on this old bios |
| 10:28.29 | ootput | haha |
| 10:28.51 | Acid`X | !ping |
| 10:28.51 | dpkg | pong |
| 10:29.02 | deadcat | i hope it works on other manager too. |
| 10:29.23 | liable | deadcat: haha, you will have to run gnome! |
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| 10:29.29 | deadcat | liable: fuck (= |
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| 10:29.53 | owner | gnome is great |
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| 10:30.04 | deadcat | liable: there are some really nice features.. like the border sticking thing |
| 10:30.24 | mcgreg | ok, now it is using growisofs, try 8,2x speed , but it only makes 0,1-1x ... but now I dont have any cpu-usage at all. really must have something todo that it a video-dvd . strange |
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| 10:31.59 | liable | deadcat: yeah, it does look pretty cool, but fairly system resource intensive. Be great if they can get it to work on reliably on random hardware. (which i doubt) |
| 10:32.04 | mcgreg | but if I remember correctly it's almost same here with VCD. I get vcd-write speeds 16x only... I |
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| 10:32.41 | deadcat | liable: true.. its gonna be specific hardware.. i doubt it will even work on ati HAAHHA. nvidia specific.. |
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| 10:33.01 | Usiu | Can pbuilder run as root ? |
| 10:33.02 | Usiu | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Iped9f25.html |
| 10:34.19 | deadcat | liable: i guess its "Compiz" the novel composite manager... |
| 10:35.04 | liable | no idea |
| 10:35.06 | amphi | liable: shouldn't most of the heavy lifting be done by the video hw? |
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| 10:36.56 | liable | amphi: i am retarded when it comes to that shit, but yeah i would imagine. |
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| 10:37.57 | deadcat | liable: well thanks for the link. its a blast to watch (=.. i am planning to steal david's computer (= |
| 10:38.06 | liable | hahaha |
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| 10:38.19 | deadcat | operation: search and snatch |
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| 10:38.46 | liable | heh, i would like to know what it actually is though.. |
| 10:38.48 | amphi | liable: the mpegs didn't show anything spectacularly useful IMHO |
| 10:39.03 | liable | amphi: what mpegs? |
| 10:39.49 | amphi | of xgl and the composition doodah in action |
| 10:39.49 | deadcat | amphi: you blind? |
| 10:39.52 | supaman | hi, I have a problem with printing, I have used cups graphical setup to put up a postscript printer here at school and I can print out a test page from the cups graphical setup page but when I use command line tools (like lpstat -t) it doesnt find my printers ... what is wrong here? |
| 10:40.17 | liable | amphi: if you are talking about the xgl thing, then yeah, as i said, its just impressive eye candy.. |
| 10:40.19 | deadcat | amphi: the osx expose thing, the alt+tab thing, the border sticking thing. stretch thing |
| 10:40.21 | Nurbs | I'd like to build a debian package of a rc (4.0.4RC1), based on a package 4.0.3SP1-1 and later on want to upgrade it to 4.0.4-1 from that same source. My question is: what version number should I give the package to have it be <4.0.4-1? 4.0.3+4.0.4RC1-0.1? but is that > 4.0.3SP1-1? |
| 10:40.24 | amphi | deadcat: huh? the rotating cube thing adds little to multiple desktops, for example |
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| 10:40.39 | amphi | liable: uhuh |
| 10:40.40 | valdyn | amphi: xgl does not directly bring anything new that is visible except speed |
| 10:40.40 | deadcat | amphi: thats eye-candy ya |
| 10:40.47 | liable | amphi: whatever, stick with a VT-100 and bash then.. |
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| 10:40.53 | amphi | valdyn: uhuh |
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| 10:41.31 | deadcat | liable: i think david is just showing off.. (= |
| 10:41.40 | liable | valdyn: you know a bit about this stuff? |
| 10:41.51 | liable | deadcat: of course, why not? :) |
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| 10:42.01 | amphi | liable: ;) I'm not bashing them, I just didn't see anything particularly useful so far |
| 10:42.03 | valdyn | liable: a bit |
| 10:42.14 | deadcat | liable: i guess. i would too if i have that on my box.. and the only one that has is |
| 10:42.24 | azeem | amphi: the rotating cube thing is said to make the concept of multiple desktops much easier to grasp for users |
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| 10:42.47 | deadcat | amphi: you dont like the expose thing? the window tab'ing feature is nice too. |
| 10:42.49 | azeem | most new users will not have encountered multiple desktops before |
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| 10:43.04 | liable | valdyn: can we expect this sort of stuff in the near future? |
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| 10:43.29 | deadcat | liable: after seeing that. i dont feel like running 3ddesktop )= |
| 10:43.32 | amphi | azeem: true - and there's no reason why the 'cube' should have only six faces ;) |
| 10:43.36 | valdyn | liable: uh, that transparancy is not new at all, you can have it now, without xgl |
| 10:44.02 | liable | valdyn: not with debians xorg.. :) |
| 10:44.11 | valdyn | liable: yes sure you can with debians xorg |
| 10:44.15 | azeem | and not with reasonable speed, maybe? |
| 10:44.16 | deadcat | liable: its in experimental |
| 10:44.25 | takisd | just compiled kernel 2.6.15 from debian source and getting failed to find ramdisk generation tool on running kernel xxxx ? never seen that before. ideas?? |
| 10:44.41 | deadcat | azeem: i think he has the best hardware when showing off his video |
| 10:44.55 | valdyn | liable: just need to activate the extensions in your xorg.conf, and run kde and switch on transparency in kde |
| 10:44.57 | azeem | deadcat: nat? |
| 10:45.04 | liable | meh, i dont do x much so i give in, just wondering about the whole thing in general |
| 10:45.16 | deadcat | azeem: david. the dude who made that film |
| 10:45.16 | liable | valdyn: only kde? |
| 10:45.29 | valdyn | liable: kde has its own composite manager |
| 10:45.38 | azeem | I heard the performance problems with xgl and compwiz are for accelerated 3D and xv, all the other stuff is said to be pretty well on most graphics hardware |
| 10:45.39 | mcgreg | takisd: install initramtools or soimething... but since I installed one of the 2.6.15 any other 2.6.15-upgrade failed to create |
| 10:45.41 | deadcat | valdyn: e17 as well. |
| 10:45.53 | deadcat | but i havent seen a demo of e17 like that one yet (= |
| 10:45.54 | valdyn | liable: gnome + xcompmgr works too, but its not integrated so its awkward to use |
| 10:46.07 | takisd | mcgreg: cool, i'll do that now. thanks |
| 10:46.10 | liable | valdyn: oh, so its an addon to xorg then? |
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| 10:46.25 | valdyn | liable: xcompmgr is, yep |
| 10:46.25 | mcgreg | takisd: apt-get install initramfs-tools |
| 10:46.27 | deadcat | liable: xcompmgr and transset is in experimental |
| 10:46.45 | takisd | mcgreg: was just apt-cache searching... thanks |
| 10:46.45 | lakbu | what package available for splitting a large avi file? |
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| 10:46.56 | valdyn | liable: its not very useful, its also not very stable, there's issues, but it exists ) |
| 10:46.56 | deadcat | liable: you didnt see this? http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/xwd_20060120_24392.png |
| 10:46.59 | liable | i dont really feel like fucking with experimental for eye candy.. :) |
| 10:47.02 | deadcat | lakbu: split |
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| 10:47.26 | valdyn | xgl really is about something else anyway |
| 10:47.27 | mcgreg | liable: lol, windows user are doing that for years ;) |
| 10:47.33 | deadcat | liable: or this? http://gblrk.dvc.edu/~fa05a18/3ddesktop.ibook.nosound.lavc.avi |
| 10:47.36 | liable | hah |
| 10:47.58 | deadcat | mcgreg: you mean they all look the same? (= |
| 10:48.02 | jm_ | lakcaj: transcode |
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| 10:48.30 | liable | deadcat: yeah i seen that a while ago. i must be weird or something, i have a term full size and just tab to browser or email when i want.. :( |
| 10:49.21 | liable | i guess i dont do mutli tasking well.. :) |
| 10:49.57 | liable | lakbu: avidemux (from marillat) |
| 10:50.15 | jm_ | avisplit ... |
| 10:50.16 | liable | er.. sec. |
| 10:51.04 | liable | no |
| 10:51.13 | jm_ | yes |
| 10:51.16 | lawnchair | mambo mambo italiano |
| 10:51.18 | lawnchair | hey! |
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| 10:53.27 | liable | jm_: i havent actually used it since install, but if its like its parent, (which of course i cant remeber the name of) then you can use it to split/edit avi's.. |
| 10:53.31 | fantomas | hi. Is there a way to have several versions of a package simultaneously? |
| 10:54.10 | liable | jm_: not saying avisplit doesnt do it.. (btw) |
| 10:54.20 | azeem | fantomas: no, not in genera |
| 10:54.21 | azeem | l |
| 10:54.35 | azeem | fantomas: only if that package is tailored to support it, which is rare |
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| 10:55.26 | fantomas | azeem: I need to have several Operas, Mozillas and FFs since I making websites |
| 10:55.27 | jm_ | liable: avidemux - a small editing software for avi (especially DivX) |
| 10:55.37 | azeem | fantomas: that will be difficult |
| 10:55.54 | liable | ah virtualdub was what i was thinking. |
| 10:55.56 | jm_ | fantomas: /usr/local |
| 10:55.58 | azeem | fantomas: you will have to do that yourself I guess, or make chroots with different versions in them |
| 10:56.00 | jm_ | liavas_: that's for Windows? |
| 10:56.07 | jm_ | liable ^^^^^ |
| 10:56.24 | tdz | hi liable, have you found out anymore on my problem? |
| 10:56.34 | liable | jm_: yeah, but avidemux is the linux copy a like |
| 10:56.52 | fantomas | jm_: You mean manually extracting there? |
| 10:56.59 | jm_ | liable: ohh, cool, VirtualDub is really nifty |
| 10:57.16 | jm_ | fantomas: yeah, using the official tarballs |
| 10:57.24 | liable | jm_: yeah, nice app. |
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| 10:57.37 | liable | tdz: where did we leave off? |
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| 10:57.52 | lpb-oberon | root@obi:/usr/bin# lla ldd |
| 10:57.52 | lpb-oberon | 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2006-02-10 11:59 ldd -> ldd2 |
| 10:58.05 | lpb-oberon | why doesn't apt overwrite the file? |
| 10:58.13 | valdyn | liable: dont need experimental stuff to use kde's compositing feature |
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| 10:58.18 | lpb-oberon | apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" --reinstall install libc6 |
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| 10:59.05 | tdz | um, cat /etc/apt/sources list? |
| 11:00.02 | liable | valdyn: but i guess i do need kde? :) |
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| 11:00.22 | valdyn | liable: yea |
| 11:00.40 | liable | valdyn: worth a look you think? |
| 11:00.48 | valdyn | liable: yea |
| 11:01.14 | valdyn | liable: though using experimental's transset and xcompmgr is probably less work than installing kde.. |
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| 11:02.40 | liable | oh. hrm, toss up. i think i might try kde and see what the fuss is about. I dont mind kde, so its no biggie and i got plenty of disk space. |
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| 11:03.09 | jm_ | it's about click-click-click ;) |
| 11:03.13 | liable | tdz: did you write it down? |
| 11:03.27 | tdz | yeah, it was sarge |
| 11:03.33 | valdyn | liable: enable the composite extension in Xorg, install kde, activae transparency in the kontrol center.. |
| 11:03.39 | tdz | so you said to get buisnesscard.iso |
| 11:03.57 | liable | jm_: i actually like the look of kde. all the clickety stuff i can leave but on the whole i dont mind it. |
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| 11:04.13 | tiptap | hmm where would apache log POST requests or wouldn't it? |
| 11:04.25 | bartden | hi, how can i get a list of the packages that are installed on my debian system ? |
| 11:04.32 | valdyn | tiptap: /var/log/apache2/access.log ? |
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| 11:04.38 | jm_ | liable: heh look is irrelevant to me, I used anon icewm theme for years |
| 11:04.38 | tiptap | only logs get requests |
| 11:05.06 | liable | tdz: my memory sucks, what was the crux of the problem again? cant install a gui? |
| 11:05.31 | jm_ | now it's 18k, which is slightly modified KDE |
| 11:05.38 | tdz | disk 2 boot failed |
| 11:05.48 | tdz | tasksel doesnt work |
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| 11:06.37 | liable | jm_: yeah, looks is always configurable, but defaults of kde i always thought were ok for my liking. guess that taste thing comes into it :) |
| 11:07.39 | liable | tdz: right. forget the disk 2 boot thing which i dont really understand.. can you paste the whole output from that file i told you? |
| 11:07.52 | tdz | negative |
| 11:07.54 | tdz | :( |
| 11:07.57 | liable | tdz: to #flood or a paster |
| 11:08.02 | liable | why? |
| 11:08.12 | tdz | because i didnt copy it >< |
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| 11:08.30 | DevilChaos | hi folks |
| 11:08.33 | tdz | is it safe to try and reinstall disk 1 liable |
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| 11:09.29 | DevilChaos | i keep getting this mail in mutt about a vi session Nvi saved the file vi.w8VclX why is this and how do i get rid of it please? |
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| 11:09.55 | liable | tdz: i dunno if you need to re-install, but sure if you want. disk1 should give you gnome and kde. (why tasksel isnt there i have no idea, which was why I was wondering where you got the iso..) |
| 11:10.11 | tdz | yeah do you want that link again? |
| 11:10.17 | liable | no |
| 11:10.21 | tdz | k |
| 11:10.31 | lakbu | thanks liable |
| 11:10.42 | liable | tdz: i would really like to see the output from that file though |
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| 11:10.52 | bartden | hi, how can i get a list of the packages that are installed on my debian system ? |
| 11:10.52 | tdz | what was the file? |
| 11:11.04 | azeem | bartden: dpkg -l | grep ^ii |
| 11:11.09 | haker | hi |
| 11:11.12 | theD3viL | How can i solve problem, about udev/lib at boot? |
| 11:11.18 | DevilChaos | bartden: dselect |
| 11:11.22 | haker | i cant install netselect |
| 11:11.27 | haker | i dont know why |
| 11:11.29 | tdz | i have it written down, but it isn't accurate |
| 11:11.34 | liable | tdz: reboot into debian, log in as root, and run apt-setup .. choose cd and put the ones you have in there.. |
| 11:11.34 | DevilChaos | bartden: in terminal |
| 11:12.04 | azeem | DevilChaos: please do not promote dselect to users unless you know very well they would profit from it |
| 11:12.05 | tdz | the ones? |
| 11:12.15 | DevilChaos | ok soz |
| 11:12.16 | haker | i uploaded a apt-source list |
| 11:12.19 | liable | tdz: then try apt-get install tasksel then try and run it.. |
| 11:12.27 | liable | tdz: you have 3? |
| 11:12.36 | tdz | 3 what? |
| 11:12.46 | liable | *groan* |
| 11:12.51 | liable | cd's? |
| 11:12.52 | DevilChaos | i keep getting this mail in mutt about a vi session Nvi saved the file vi.w8VclX why is this and how do i get rid of it please? anyone? |
| 11:13.15 | azeem | DevilChaos: check the nvi documentation on how to recover it |
| 11:13.22 | azeem | or delete it, if you do not care about it anymore |
| 11:13.33 | tdz | yeah |
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| 11:13.42 | DevilChaos | ty |
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| 11:14.35 | liable | tdz: have you read the install guide? |
| 11:14.40 | liable | !ig |
| 11:14.40 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 11:14.46 | liable | tdz: ^^ |
| 11:14.47 | tdz | yeah |
| 11:14.51 | tdz | sorry, writing down |
| 11:15.30 | tdz | ill try that now :D |
| 11:15.47 | liable | tdz: ok, see how you go. |
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| 11:16.34 | haker | thx ;] |
| 11:16.58 | haker | i have a problem please help me |
| 11:17.02 | haker | somebody! |
| 11:17.22 | haker | i cant install netselect |
| 11:17.32 | liable | haker: you have to rub my chrystel ball first.. |
| 11:17.37 | azeem | 12:05 < haker> i cant install netselect |
| 11:17.43 | azeem | haker: what is netselect? |
| 11:18.26 | haker | it helps you to choose the fastst mirror server |
| 11:18.32 | theD3viL | why my system is still laggy, i installed nvidia drivers (one-liner) and hdparm -t /dev/hda shows ~50mb! |
| 11:18.34 | liable | no |
| 11:18.50 | bartden | hi, someone here who knows a good howto on installing alsa for debian |
| 11:18.51 | liable | haker: apt-spy |
| 11:18.52 | azeem | haker: so what is the problem? |
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| 11:19.13 | azeem | theD3viL: glxinfo, does that show direct rendering? |
| 11:19.20 | liable | !+info netselect sarge |
| 11:19.22 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 11:19.33 | azeem | it's there |
| 11:19.39 | azeem | stable (net): Choose the fastest server automatically |
| 11:19.40 | azeem | 0.3.ds1-4 |
| 11:19.45 | theD3viL | azeem: yes, with nvidia mx 420 ~1000fps, but when moving some window - drop to ~100fps! |
| 11:19.55 | azeem | theD3viL: OMG! |
| 11:19.56 | theD3viL | azeem: oh, info...just sec |
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| 11:20.25 | theD3viL | azeem: direct rendering: Yes |
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| 11:20.50 | azeem | theD3viL: so what exactly do you mean with "laggy"? |
| 11:20.53 | mcgreg | with my radeon8500 and 1Ghz G4 I get about 750fps... which sucks for sure :) |
| 11:20.58 | liable | !you lag |
| 11:21.31 | liable | meh, that was bad timing.. meant for dpkg, not the current convo.. |
| 11:21.36 | theD3viL | azeem: when i minimize some window, music is lagging..when moving window - breaking...at boot i get some udev errors. |
| 11:21.58 | azeem | how much RAM do you have (free)? |
| 11:21.59 | mcgreg | what hardware do you have? |
| 11:22.25 | theD3viL | azeem: 204 free |
| 11:22.39 | takisd | mcgreg: thanks for your help earlier - it worked. |
| 11:22.58 | mcgreg | takisd: you're welcomed |
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| 11:24.04 | spiritwalker | anyone know where i can get changelogs of current packages, because packages.debian.org is down... |
| 11:24.14 | azeem | spiritwalker: /topic |
| 11:24.27 | liable | spiritwalker: /usr/share/doc? |
| 11:24.46 | azeem | however, pdo.debian.net doesn't have changelogs yet |
| 11:24.47 | spiritwalker | @Myon aber ich glaube der hat keine changelogs, naja ich schau mal danke... |
| 11:24.56 | azeem | spiritwalker: -ELANG |
| 11:24.56 | liable | hrm, how to get aptitude to use that.. |
| 11:25.01 | Myon | spiritwalker: ECHAN |
| 11:25.10 | azeem | -EAT |
| 11:25.20 | liable | azeem: aptitude fetches them from p.d.o |
| 11:25.28 | azeem | that's neat |
| 11:25.37 | liable | when it works.. :( |
| 11:25.39 | azeem | 12:18 < azeem> however, pdo.debian.net doesn't have changelogs yet |
| 11:25.55 | bartden | hi, someone here who knows a good howto on installing alsa for debian |
| 11:25.56 | liable | right.. |
| 11:26.12 | azeem | you can get the latest few on packages.qa.debian.org/<package> |
| 11:26.24 | spiritwalker | ists bad that pdo has no changelogs, because i want to know for example why libc6 is updated... |
| 11:26.33 | mcgreg | bartden: hmm=? what kenrel? 2.6 has alsa by default, you just need to install some packages, use aopt-cache search alsa |
| 11:26.38 | azeem | spiritwalker: see my last line |
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| 11:26.45 | spiritwalker | @azeem ok i will have a look |
| 11:26.52 | liable | spiritwalker: apt-listchanges.. /usr/share/doc.. |
| 11:26.54 | azeem | spiritwalker: and please drop the @ |
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| 11:29.08 | bartden | mcgreg yes i have 2.6, should i built in , or use modules ? |
| 11:29.31 | mcgreg | bartden: ok, then you just need some tools... wait a moment |
| 11:29.46 | liable | alsa-base alsa-utils.. |
| 11:30.25 | Garda | vnc starts. but i get the ugly grey screen. no window manager is starting |
| 11:31.19 | mcgreg | barnes: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-tools alsa-utils |
| 11:31.41 | Garda | xrdb $HOME/.Xresources |
| 11:31.42 | supaman | why doesnt lpstat -p ojs show anything when if I look at the graphical version of cups it shows a printer there that is called ojs and it is enabled? |
| 11:31.48 | Garda | xsetroot -solid grey |
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| 11:31.55 | Garda | x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & |
| 11:31.57 | mcgreg | bartden: then alsa should work and you should have sound |
| 11:32.07 | Garda | those are the 3 lines in my xstartup script |
| 11:32.47 | azeem | Garda: did you install an x-terminal-emulator? |
| 11:32.48 | mcgreg | bartden: it might be that you need to enable alsa, by alsamixer, and enable sound-output in the gui |
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| 11:33.05 | Garda | i installed the tightvnc server |
| 11:33.15 | bartden | mcgreg k thx |
| 11:33.24 | azeem | Garda: and on the box you connect to? |
| 11:33.25 | mcgreg | bartden: np :) |
| 11:33.44 | Garda | yea |
| 11:33.52 | Garda | on the one i'm connecting to |
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| 11:34.07 | azeem | well, check whether xterm is installed on it |
| 11:34.09 | Garda | well i'm sitting at the one i'm connecting to |
| 11:34.19 | Garda | i'm just getting it to work for now |
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| 11:36.08 | liable | Garda: erm, if you want it to show a desktop or someshit, then install it on the server. |
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| 11:37.27 | Garda | what do you mean |
| 11:37.32 | neil_dugan | I have used ffmpeg to create a pal-vcd type mpeg file how do I put this on a CD so it is reconised as a VCD |
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| 11:37.42 | Garda | i installed the tightvnc server on the computer i'm connecting to |
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| 11:39.39 | theD3viL | I still have error at boot - it saying that none of devices and some progras is found |
| 11:40.06 | liable | eh? |
| 11:40.31 | theD3viL | ? |
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| 11:42.43 | valdyn | neil_dugan: you dont |
| 11:42.44 | liable | theD3viL: could you explain that a little better? it made no sense at all to me. |
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| 11:42.56 | valdyn | neil_dugan: just play it, with something like xine or mplayer |
| 11:43.22 | neil_dugan | valdyn: I want to be able to play it in a DVD player. |
| 11:43.24 | valdyn | neil_dugan: ops, i missed the first part... |
| 11:43.38 | valdyn | neil_dugan: burn it with cdrdao i think |
| 11:43.41 | valdyn | neil_dugan: im not sure though |
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| 11:43.54 | theD3viL | liable: hm..there is many errors about udev/lib/devices...i remember i must purge hotplug .. but cant do if it removed aleready! |
| 11:43.54 | tdz | liable, i scanned all my disks |
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| 11:44.12 | neil_dugan | valdyn: thanks I will put the mpg file on a CD and see if it works. |
| 11:44.12 | tdz | but if i go to do anything after it, pressing enter causes #debian line to open up |
| 11:44.15 | liable | theD3viL: dpkg -P hotplug |
| 11:44.17 | k31th | Humm wats that debian project its like cpanel but open source and free ? |
| 11:44.33 | theD3viL | liable: tnx! |
| 11:44.34 | tdz | so basically i cant select anything! i ran tasksel and it worked, but i cant choose desktop |
| 11:44.34 | valdyn | neil_dugan: it should not be as a file on that cd but as raw data.. |
| 11:44.37 | liable | theD3viL: what do you mean? |
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| 11:44.55 | tdz | its currently set on mail server btw, dont know why =/ |
| 11:45.05 | neil_dugan | valdyn: do you know how to do that? |
| 11:45.06 | liable | err |
| 11:45.07 | theD3viL | liable: hm...erorr at installing -> /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-1-k7 was been altered. Cannot update. |
| 11:45.14 | valdyn | neil_dugan: apt-cache show vcdimager |
| 11:45.22 | liable | theD3viL: sorry, missfire. |
| 11:45.43 | theD3viL | liable: ? |
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| 11:45.59 | liable | theD3viL: the last comment wasnt for you :) |
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| 11:46.25 | liable | tdz: to change the selection you press the spacebar and use the arrow keys |
| 11:46.32 | theD3viL | liable: oh ;) .. my last comment was for you ;) .. maybe know why is this error? |
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| 11:46.45 | tdz | thanks , what should i do then after selecting desktop? |
| 11:47.21 | k31th | Wats that cpanel type app that is designed to run on debian |
| 11:47.35 | valdyn | !webmin |
| 11:47.35 | dpkg | it has been said that webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 11:47.37 | liable | tdz: make sure desktop is the only one, then hit the tab key to get to ok, or whatever it is (install?) |
| 11:47.58 | tdz | ah |
| 11:48.38 | liable | tdz: spacebar, arrow keys, tab. that should get you sorted.. |
| 11:48.53 | k31th | valdyn: no not webmin |
| 11:49.08 | k31th | its like plesk & cpanel |
| 11:49.49 | liable | tdz: the install guide should have explained that to you.. |
| 11:50.00 | valdyn | !cpanel |
| 11:50.09 | theD3viL | what this error means? -> /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-1-k7 was been altered. Cannot update. |
| 11:50.20 | liable | theD3viL: when do you get that error? |
| 11:50.23 | valdyn | theD3viL: means what it sais |
| 11:50.43 | theD3viL | liable: when doing apt-get install --reinstall udev (couse i purge hotplug now) |
| 11:51.04 | k31th | valdyn: there is a free debian based project that looks really good |
| 11:51.07 | liable | theD3viL: re-install the kernel |
| 11:51.18 | valdyn | k31th: how's it called? |
| 11:51.20 | theD3viL | liable: why? |
| 11:51.51 | k31th | tbh id rather not use them but users seem to like doing stuff them selfs... i think it offers to much of a security hole |
| 11:51.56 | k31th | valdyn: i cant rermember |
| 11:52.02 | k31th | thats why i was asking |
| 11:52.06 | theD3viL | liable: still the same error |
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| 11:52.50 | supaman | ok, this is strange, according to the documentation for the hplip package then it should be enough to use hp-makeuri for a network printer and then use hp-probe to find that printer, but that doesnt happen for me .. I know the network works and the printer is online cause I can print to it using another faulty printer spool |
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| 11:53.03 | supaman | anyone can help me out here with this? |
| 11:53.10 | valdyn | theD3viL: does it really say 'was been altered' ? |
| 11:53.13 | liable | theD3viL: whats apt-get -f install do? |
| 11:53.30 | theD3viL | valdyn: yes |
| 11:53.44 | liable | was/has? |
| 11:53.50 | theD3viL | liable: nothing installed, nothing removed, ... |
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| 11:54.10 | valdyn | k31th: make sure you have a different kernel installed that you can boot from and purge that kernel package |
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| 11:54.23 | theD3viL | liable: ill try to reboot, and see if dpkg -P hotplug was enough. |
| 11:54.24 | theD3viL | brb |
| 11:54.30 | k31th | valdyn: wat ? |
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| 11:54.35 | liable | theD3viL: you upgrading from sarge to etch? |
| 11:54.37 | valdyn | k31th: ops |
| 11:54.46 | valdyn | theD3viL: make sure you have a different kernel installed that you can boot from and purge that kernel package |
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| 11:56.14 | theD3viL | liable: still the same =/ |
| 11:58.14 | liable | theD3viL: you upgrading from sarge to etch? |
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| 11:58.39 | theD3viL | liable: nope, i upgraded from sarge to sid. |
| 11:59.44 | bartden | hi , i just compiled the alsa modules into my kernel, rebooted, loaded the modules and installed alsa-base alsa-tools alsa-utils, but when i do alsamixer i get this error , alsamixer: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, but libasound2 is already installed and so is libasound2-dev, any help |
| 11:59.46 | liable | theD3viL: read bts for udev, theres lots of bugs for this. |
| 12:00.08 | theD3viL | liable: okey |
| 12:00.10 | theD3viL | tnx |
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| 12:01.22 | priyank | hey, i get lots of udev related errors while booting debian.. |
| 12:01.35 | priyank | it looks something like this |
| 12:01.36 | priyank | run_program : exec of program '/lib/udev/udev_run_devd' failed |
| 12:01.37 | priyank | run_program : exec of program '/lib/udev/udev_run_hotplugd' failed |
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| 12:01.52 | priyank | can anyone help ? |
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| 12:02.07 | theD3viL | priyank: me too :) |
| 12:02.14 | priyank | theD3viL: o.O |
| 12:02.15 | liable | priyank: /msg dpkg bts |
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| 12:04.28 | bartden | how can i make a normal user read files from a windows xp ntfs partition ? |
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| 12:06.15 | haker | :) |
| 12:06.17 | Eclipser | bartden, set umask, gid and/or uid the way you like it |
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| 12:06.26 | Eclipser | bartden, man mount |
| 12:06.38 | petemc | bartden: umask=022 as an option will do pretty much what you need |
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| 12:07.10 | Eclipser | there's just the annoying thing that all files have x flag on the partition :p |
| 12:07.24 | Eclipser | actually that's just my fault :o |
| 12:08.06 | Eclipser | or no |
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| 12:08.21 | Eclipser | dpkg says that umask=022,gid=xxx to access as non root |
| 12:08.30 | bartden | thx |
| 12:08.45 | liable | just 022 usually works. |
| 12:08.54 | liable | !ntfsrw |
| 12:08.54 | dpkg | Write support for ntfs is not really available. Ask me about read-ntfs so you can read data on ntfs partitions. see <ro-ntfs> |
| 12:08.54 | petemc | s/usually/always/ |
| 12:08.59 | fantomas | How to get a single package from 'etch'? I browsed ftp but found only diffs |
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| 12:09.18 | Eclipser | true but is there a way to remove the x flag from the regular files? : |
| 12:09.18 | liable | petemc: heh, well yeah.. :) |
| 12:09.19 | Eclipser | :) |
| 12:09.20 | valdyn | fantomas: where the hell did you find only diffs? |
| 12:09.22 | jm_ | fantomas: they're all in pool |
| 12:09.31 | jm_ | or simply use pdo to get the link |
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| 12:09.36 | valdyn | fantomas: since diffs are in the same directory as debs |
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| 12:11.46 | fantomas | valdyn: hm... Hell I always used apt-get :) |
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| 12:12.06 | valdyn | !quick sid sarge mix |
| 12:12.20 | valdyn | !listkeys mix |
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| 12:12.22 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'mix' by key (15 of 48): #debian quick sarge/etch mix ;; #debian quick sid/sarge mix ;; _default mixing distros ;; asmixer ;; cmix ;; informix ;; mixal ;; mixed system ;; mixing distros ;; mixing stable and unstable ;; quick etch/sid mix ;; quick sarge/etch mix ;; remix ;; stormix ;; two-mix. |
| 12:12.35 | valdyn | !quick etch/sid mix |
| 12:12.36 | dpkg | it has been said that quick etch/sid mix is echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf, open sources.list, duplicate your etch lines and change one set to sid. then apt-get update, apt-get -t unstable install foo to install foo from sid rather than etch, or this will probably break if packages from unstable are compiled with gcc 4 and packages in etch aren't. |
| 12:12.42 | valdyn | fantomas: ^^^^ |
| 12:12.48 | fantomas | ugu |
| 12:13.06 | valdyn | fantomas: sarge / etch mixes are alot more dangerous |
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| 12:13.27 | valdyn | !simple sid backport |
| 12:13.27 | dpkg | simple sid backport is, like, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 12:13.33 | valdyn | fantomas: you could try this ^^^ |
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| 12:13.35 | fantomas | valdyn: I know, I only need one fonts package - ttf-arphic-uming |
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| 12:14.22 | valdyn | fantomas: you can try the quick etch/sid mix then.. just replace etch with sarge and sid with etch |
| 12:14.51 | valdyn | fantomas: and 'testing' with 'stable' or 'sarge' |
| 12:14.58 | Shai-tan | Would you like fries with that elitism? |
| 12:16.15 | valdyn | !tell fantomas -abouit quick sarge/etch mix |
| 12:16.20 | valdyn | !tell fantomas -about quick sarge/etch mix |
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| 12:18.14 | fantomas | valdyn: you've just instructed bot for me, thanks :) |
| 12:18.42 | tombs | hi all |
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| 12:19.01 | Kian|boulot | hi |
| 12:19.08 | Kian|boulot | i've got a problem : |
| 12:19.30 | Kian|boulot | var/lib/dpkg/info/proftpd.postrm: line 5: /dev/tty: No such device or address |
| 12:19.41 | Kian|boulot | while trying to remove a package |
| 12:19.53 | Kian|boulot | do yo know what could be the problem ? |
| 12:20.01 | priyank | hey, how do i remove/add stuff at boot ? |
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| 12:20.13 | valdyn | Kian|boulot: why is your /dev/tty missing? |
| 12:20.13 | priyank | the daemons in /etc/init.d/ |
| 12:20.16 | Kian|boulot | it's on a xen virtual server with sarge controled by remote |
| 12:20.22 | Gnea | Kian|boulot: sarge, testing or sid? |
| 12:20.25 | Kian|boulot | valdyn: dont know :( |
| 12:20.27 | Kian|boulot | sarge |
| 12:20.33 | Gnea | priyank: update-rc.d |
| 12:20.55 | fantomas | priyank: apt-get install sysv-rc-conf |
| 12:20.56 | liable | !services |
| 12:20.56 | dpkg | from memory, services is to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/ |
| 12:20.56 | valdyn | priyank: ... update-rc.d is ok, but not persistent thru package upgrades |
| 12:20.57 | priyank | Gnea: okay |
| 12:21.06 | Kian|boulot | crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 0 Feb 8 18:09 tty |
| 12:21.10 | Kian|boulot | it is not missing |
| 12:21.14 | priyank | valdyn: oh, ok.. |
| 12:21.40 | priyank | valdyn: i have another problem, udev fails at boot.. and shows hundreds of errors like these |
| 12:21.49 | priyank | valdyn: run_program : exec of program '/lib/udev/udev_run_devd' failed |
| 12:21.51 | fantomas | pastebin! |
| 12:21.54 | fantomas | :) |
| 12:21.56 | priyank | run_program : exec of program '/lib/udev/udev_run_hotplugd' failed |
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| 12:22.02 | valdyn | priyank: have you check the bts? |
| 12:22.04 | valdyn | priyank: have you checked the bts? |
| 12:22.13 | priyank | valdyn: yea |
| 12:22.18 | priyank | valdyn: i couldnt find it. |
| 12:22.21 | priyank | fantomas: :) |
| 12:22.39 | liable | !tell priyank about bts |
| 12:22.49 | priyank | liable: dude, i know bts |
| 12:22.51 | Gnea | priyank: what does the script have to say about /dev/tty? |
| 12:22.57 | Gnea | er |
| 12:22.58 | priyank | liable: but i couldnt find udev there. |
| 12:23.02 | priyank | Gnea: ? |
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| 12:23.05 | Gnea | Kian|boulot: what does the script have to say about /dev/tty? |
| 12:23.11 | Gnea | priyank: mis-type |
| 12:23.12 | valdyn | priyank: you got to be joking |
| 12:23.14 | Kian|boulot | Gnea: what do you mean ? |
| 12:23.21 | vin` | priyank: saw similar post on the debian-user mailing list. |
| 12:23.21 | liable | priyank: wtf? there a *shitload* of bugs for udev.. |
| 12:23.23 | Gnea | Kian|worK: what does it say? |
| 12:23.29 | priyank | liable: ooh |
| 12:23.32 | priyank | liable: lemme check.. |
| 12:23.33 | Gnea | Kian|worK: read it, it says something |
| 12:23.37 | priyank | vin`: ok, checking :) |
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| 12:24.29 | Kian|worK | Gnea: http://pastebin.ca/40995 |
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| 12:25.22 | Gnea | Kian|worK: no, cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/proftpd.postrm |
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| 12:26.20 | Kian|worK | Gnea: http://pastebin.ca/40996 |
| 12:26.33 | jm_ | !nosuchdevice |
| 12:26.33 | dpkg | "No such device" means you're trying to access a device which exists in /dev but for which the kernel has no driver available. Try 'modconf', or rebuild your kernel. you are trying to load a hardware driver without that hardware being present |
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| 12:26.52 | Kian|worK | O_o |
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| 12:27.41 | Gnea | jm_: that does not apply. |
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| 12:28.12 | Gnea | Kian|worK: when is the last time you upgraded the system? |
| 12:28.55 | valdyn | Kian|worK: run: 'cat /dev/tty' |
| 12:29.01 | Kian|worK | it's a system i installed last monday |
| 12:29.22 | Gnea | Kian|worK: yes, and did you upgrade it right away or at all since then? |
| 12:29.26 | Kian|worK | cat: /dev/tty: No such device or address |
| 12:29.35 | valdyn | Kian|worK: so you are using a custom kernel? |
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| 12:29.39 | Kian|worK | Gnea: it is a net install, no upgrade |
| 12:29.43 | Kian|worK | valdyn: Xen |
| 12:29.53 | Gnea | Kian|worK: that means nothing. |
| 12:30.02 | Kian|worK | valdyn: Linux xxxxx 2.6.12.6-xenU #1 SMP Tue Jan 31 16:08:40 GMT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 12:30.11 | valdyn | Kian|worK: that kernel has no tty support obviously, did you make it yourself? |
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| 12:30.16 | liable | wtf is a xen kernel? |
| 12:30.20 | dbm | hi people... |
| 12:30.30 | Gnea | Kian|worK: you need now to run the following commands: apt-get update && aptitude upgrade && aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 12:30.31 | dbm | i have lan of boxes...that need to have time synced |
| 12:30.34 | Kian|worK | valdyn: absolutely not, i'm not that good ^^ |
| 12:30.37 | dbm | but there is no internet access |
| 12:30.45 | valdyn | Kian|worK: try 'modprobe tty' |
| 12:30.46 | dbm | can it be done? |
| 12:30.47 | Gnea | liable: so you can run xen |
| 12:30.52 | liable | !tell dbm about set the time |
| 12:30.54 | valdyn | Kian|worK: though i actually have no idea how that module would be called |
| 12:31.00 | valdyn | Kian|worK: just guessing |
| 12:31.05 | dbm | ntp clients won't accept the time from the ntp server |
| 12:31.06 | Kian|worK | fatal_: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.12.6-xenU/modules.dep: No such file or directory |
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| 12:31.08 | liable | Gnea: and this is a debian kernel? |
| 12:31.10 | dbm | something like...it is not accurate |
| 12:31.22 | valdyn | Kian|worK: run 'depmod -a' |
| 12:31.32 | dbm | liable, it is not that :) |
| 12:32.16 | dbm | i can set the time manually |
| 12:32.16 | liable | dbm: set them within a close range and try again.. |
| 12:32.16 | Kian|worK | WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.12.6-xenU: No such file or directory |
| 12:32.16 | Kian|worK | fatal_: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.12.6-xenU/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory |
| 12:32.16 | Gnea | Kian|worK: where did you get this kernel from? |
| 12:32.16 | dbm | liable, a tried that :( |
| 12:32.16 | Kian|worK | Gnea: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ |
| 12:32.17 | liable | dbm: local/gdm? |
| 12:32.17 | valdyn | Kian|worK: you have a kernel installed withouit its modules |
| 12:32.17 | Gnea | Kian|worK: why? |
| 12:32.17 | dbm | liable, i dont understand? |
| 12:32.17 | valdyn | Kian|worK: guess that not even /lib/modules/2.6.12.6-xenU exists |
| 12:32.18 | Kian|worK | i'm updating |
| 12:32.32 | liable | dbm: the time is set to local or gmt? |
| 12:32.50 | Gnea | Kian|worK: your kernel is not debian-based, you will need to reboot into a proper 2.6 debian kernel in order to fix the problem. |
| 12:32.55 | dbm | liable, local |
| 12:33.06 | liable | dbm: on all plus sever? |
| 12:33.07 | Kian|worK | i had the same probleme while updating : Couldn't reopen stdin(/dev/tty): No such device or address at /usr/sbin/update-inetd line 29. |
| 12:33.26 | valdyn | Kian|worK: you dont have a complete kernel installed, its modules are missing |
| 12:33.29 | supaman | whats the name of the KDE program that sets up printers? |
| 12:33.31 | Kian|worK | Gnea: my system is a virtual system running sarge in a sarge host |
| 12:33.53 | Kian|worK | valdyn: how may i fix that ? |
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| 12:34.01 | liable | supaman: presumably kprint? |
| 12:34.03 | valdyn | Kian|worK: reinstall that kernel package |
| 12:34.08 | Kian|worK | wow |
| 12:34.08 | sylvisj | How do I give myself read access to /? |
| 12:34.21 | liable | supaman: you should have it.. |
| 12:34.26 | liable | sylvisj: ^^ |
| 12:34.27 | valdyn | sylvisj: eh? why dont you have it? |
| 12:34.35 | Gnea | Kian|worK: but you're using non-debian kernels in debian |
| 12:34.42 | Gnea | Kian|worK: which we don't support. |
| 12:34.42 | liable | except a few selct files.. |
| 12:34.47 | sylvisj | liable? Apparently I don't as use |
| 12:34.47 | sylvisj | r |
| 12:35.00 | supaman | liable: I dont run KDE, I run wmaker .. but I am having problems installing a network printer here and I know of one person that used the KDE printer setup to set it up so I am going to try it out |
| 12:35.02 | liable | gah, once again my typing sucks dogs balls.. |
| 12:35.05 | kelmo_lap | Gnea, maybe kernel-package should be removed from the archive then . . . |
| 12:35.15 | valdyn | sylvisj: ls -ld / |
| 12:35.24 | kelmo_lap | Gnea, but i know what ya mean ; ) |
| 12:35.24 | liable | supaman: 127.0.0.1:631 |
| 12:35.33 | sylvisj | drwxr-xr-x 26 root root 4096 2006-02-06 13:01 |
| 12:35.37 | supaman | liable: cups hasnt worked for me either :( |
| 12:35.40 | liable | sylvisj: in a browser |
| 12:35.45 | Gnea | kelmo_lap: is that supposed to be a joke? |
| 12:35.53 | Kian|worK | Gnea: i'm trying to get help from ##xen :) |
| 12:35.57 | valdyn | sylvisj: guess what the last 'r' in drwxr-xr-x means? |
| 12:36.02 | sylvisj | Connection refused... |
| 12:36.04 | Gnea | Kian|worK: cool |
| 12:36.07 | sylvisj | valdyn? read? |
| 12:36.16 | dbm | liable, yes...it is local on all boxes |
| 12:36.20 | kelmo_lap | Gnea, maybe i should give you a sense of humour first |
| 12:36.23 | valdyn | sylvisj: that every user has read permissions |
| 12:36.35 | sylvisj | It's letting me in / but not the windows mount folder, /win |
| 12:36.53 | valdyn | sylvisj: so you're concerned about /win, not / |
| 12:36.56 | supaman | liable: I set up the printer in the cups web environment and I can print out a test page with it, but when I use the command prompt it wont recognise my printers .. just the ones that are set up by the sysadmin for the whole network and that one doesnt work to well (only prints out the first page) |
| 12:36.57 | valdyn | !vfatrw |
| 12:36.57 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux).. |
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| 12:37.05 | sylvisj | valdyn: Yeah. |
| 12:37.15 | sylvisj | I just need to copy a dll :( |
| 12:37.43 | sylvisj | I can do it as root, but the file becomes rw protected |
| 12:37.48 | sylvisj | and Wine can't access it |
| 12:37.59 | valdyn | sylvisj: read what dpkg said |
| 12:38.04 | liable | supaman: oh, did you supply the printer name? |
| 12:38.13 | sylvisj | It's NTFS, and I have it mounted |
| 12:38.14 | liable | supaman: man lpr? |
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| 12:38.31 | valdyn | sylvisj: this works the same for ntfs, you just cant write to ntfs |
| 12:38.43 | sylvisj | valdyn: I know, it's already mounted, I just need to get a file off it as user |
| 12:38.50 | sylvisj | Fuck it, gonna get it then chown it |
| 12:38.53 | valdyn | sylvisj: so read what dpkg asid |
| 12:38.58 | valdyn | sylvisj: said |
| 12:38.59 | supaman | liable: yes, I did lpr -d ojs (ojs is the name of the printer in the web interface of cups) and lpstat -t doesnt find the spools I defined in the cups web interface |
| 12:39.01 | sylvisj | I don't need nor do I want it perma mounted... |
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| 12:39.18 | valdyn | sylvisj: so? |
| 12:39.35 | sylvisj | . . . |
| 12:39.40 | sylvisj | gonna get the file and chown it... |
| 12:39.50 | jm_ | supaman: and lp command? |
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| 12:40.38 | supaman | jm_: hmmm ... nope, ill try it now |
| 12:40.46 | liable | sylvisj: erm, lpr -P ojs? |
| 12:40.46 | sylvisj | Worked. |
| 12:40.56 | liable | supaman: ^^ |
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| 12:41.13 | sylvisj | 3 letter plus tab > 2 letters plus tab :D |
| 12:41.18 | supaman | liable: ok, is lpr -P .. and lp -d ... then I have been using lp -d ... not lpr -P |
| 12:41.34 | supaman | huu .. dont even have lpr |
| 12:41.37 | liable | sylvisj: no, usually one, but you two are being difficult.. :P\ |
| 12:41.45 | supaman | :-) |
| 12:41.47 | valdyn | supaman: dpkg -S `which lpr' |
| 12:41.51 | valdyn | supaman: dpkg -S `which lpr` |
| 12:41.55 | sylvisj | liable: heh :D |
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| 12:42.42 | supaman | valdyn: I dont have lpr installed |
| 12:43.08 | valdyn | supaman: run that comand, tell me the output |
| 12:43.37 | valdyn | supaman: no one said you had 'lpr' installed |
| 12:43.50 | supaman | valdyn: as expected ... dpkg-query: --search needs at least one file name pattern argument |
| 12:44.09 | valdyn | supaman: apt-get install cupsys-bsd |
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| 12:45.15 | supaman | valdyn: ok, lpr is set up ...cupsys-bsd: /usr/bin/lpr |
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| 12:45.38 | R3d | hi.. |
| 12:45.48 | liable | lpr -P ojs /etc/fstab |
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| 12:45.52 | R3d | I installed xwpe package with apt-get |
| 12:46.09 | R3d | but then I don't know how to run it..xwpe is command not found .. |
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| 12:46.22 | supaman | liable: lpr: error - unable to print file: client-error-not-found |
| 12:46.25 | raf256[laptop] | anyone here from Danmark perhaps :) ? |
| 12:46.26 | R3d | I'm somehow new to linux.. |
| 12:46.40 | jm_ | R3d: run rehash or hash -r |
| 12:46.41 | supaman | raf256[laptop]: I live in Denmark, but I am not from here |
| 12:46.52 | beardy | !dk |
| 12:46.53 | dpkg | i guess dk is Denmark and #debian.dk too |
| 12:47.01 | raf256[laptop] | thnx beardy |
| 12:47.21 | valdyn | supaman: try 'lpstat -t' |
| 12:47.21 | raf256[laptop] | supaman: I think of changing nationality to DK since poland is falling back into communism, any hints/ |
| 12:47.48 | liable | raf256[laptop]: err.. #debian-offtopic.. |
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| 12:48.42 | raf256[laptop] | [474] #debian.dk You're banned from that channel |
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| 12:48.43 | beardy | lin_max: Don't irc as root. |
| 12:48.51 | bushwakko | where would I install my jar files on debian?! |
| 12:48.54 | supaman | valdyn: lpstat -t gives out a lot of printers from all over the network but not my locally defined printers (the printer I am trying to set up is a network printer) |
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| 12:48.59 | raf256[laptop] | cool, especially since I never been there, can someome opleas ask someone there to +e or -b me? |
| 12:49.18 | beardy | bushwakko: What are they for, or, who woll run them? |
| 12:49.24 | beardy | s/woll/will/ |
| 12:49.33 | supaman | gotta go ... |
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| 12:49.49 | bushwakko | beardy: A java app I've made |
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| 12:50.45 | bushwakko | also, there is lots of deps for my app, which I have no idea how to handle |
| 12:51.01 | bushwakko | either make a deb for each of them, and install them somewhere, or install them in the same pkg |
| 12:51.27 | beardy | bushwakko: Either in your users homedir, preferebly in a directory called bin, if it's an executable, or a dedicated directory perhaps. Or if more people is going to run it, /usr/local/bin, or if lots of files, it's own directory under /opt perhaps. |
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| 12:52.14 | beardy | bushwakko: If you put it in ~/bin, edit ~/.bashrc to "include users ~/bin if it exists". |
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| 12:53.25 | valdyn | supaman: are you confusing us by trying these commands on a client box where we think you run them on the server? |
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| 12:53.51 | Orakio | I have a problem installing debian, I get the error message: VFS Unable to mount root fs on 00:00.... |
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| 12:54.15 | hyso | Hi! |
| 12:54.26 | hyso | I need help with a question, please somebody help!!! |
| 12:54.48 | hyso | I've installed a new distro based on debian |
| 12:54.59 | beardy | hyso: Which one? |
| 12:55.11 | shay | !tell hyso about ask |
| 12:55.12 | hyso | An autonomic distro from spain |
| 12:55.30 | hyso | the problem is that when I when to boot it it didn't |
| 12:55.37 | hyso | but that is not the problem |
| 12:55.41 | blondie | ask the channel for that distro |
| 12:55.56 | shay | hyso, cómo se llama la distribución? |
| 12:55.57 | beardy | hyso: /join #whateverit'scalled |
| 12:55.58 | hyso | there is no channel for that, and I don't want to boot that |
| 12:56.03 | hyso | shay, guadalinex |
| 12:56.11 | shay | hyso, also, there's #debian-es |
| 12:56.17 | shay | maybe someone there knows it |
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| 12:56.21 | hyso | shay, ok! |
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| 12:56.40 | Orakio | VFS Unable to mount root fs on 00:00.... what is likely to be the cause of this problem? |
| 12:56.47 | hyso | the problem is not with the distro... the problem is what the distro did to my filesystem, so it is a problem of linux... |
| 12:57.00 | hyso | I just want to resolve one thing |
| 12:57.16 | hyso | my vfat partitions that were not formatted now are shown as ext3 |
| 12:57.17 | shay | hyso, could you *please* ask the question already? |
| 12:57.43 | shay | then there were acutally formatted. |
| 12:57.51 | hyso | I just don't want to lose the data I had on that partitions... so... is there a way so I can force a vfat mount or something? |
| 12:57.52 | shay | s/there/they |
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| 12:58.22 | sylvisj | Good god |
| 12:58.27 | sylvisj | 5th freaking WoW update in a row |
| 12:58.54 | hyso | shay, is not there a posibility so that the superblock or something is wrong? so I can just recover my data by using a recovery tool or something? |
| 12:58.59 | Orakio | hyso: force? are you using fstab? |
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| 12:59.06 | Orakio | hyso: you can change the type in cfdisk |
| 12:59.07 | hyso | Orakio, no |
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| 12:59.18 | shay | hyso, trid just to mount the partition? |
| 12:59.24 | shay | s/trid/tried |
| 12:59.28 | Orakio | although the type there has little real life implications that I'm aware off. |
| 12:59.28 | hyso | shay, yes |
| 12:59.37 | hyso | mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/fat |
| 12:59.48 | theD3viL | is it normal to debian do this when i run /etc/init.d/udev start? -> Starting the hotplug events dispatcher: udevd failed! |
| 12:59.49 | shay | does it mount it? |
| 12:59.50 | Orakio | hyso: Why does it not mount? |
| 12:59.50 | hyso | I'll just look for info on cfdisk |
| 13:00.03 | Orakio | hyso just type cfdisk /dev/hda |
| 13:00.15 | shay | theD3viL, no, that ins't normal, check the logs |
| 13:00.26 | theD3viL | shay: logs of? |
| 13:00.39 | shay | udevd? |
| 13:00.40 | beardy | theD3viL: Why was it stopped? |
| 13:00.55 | sideral | hi. i just installed a recent copy of etch w/ 2.6.12-286 kernel, then downloaded the sources of kernel 2.6.15 and recompiled. it all looks good, but when switching between consoles (alt+f\d), there is 2 second delay.....does anybody know where this comes from? it didn't happen on the 2.6.12 |
| 13:01.00 | hyso | this is thee error message: http://pastebin.com/548244 |
| 13:01.09 | beardy | theD3viL: If it wasn't, that might explain it, but then why would you try to start it.. |
| 13:01.23 | theD3viL | beardy: at boot udev gives me error about starting /lib/hotplug and many others. |
| 13:01.32 | hyso | Orakio, I don't have cfdisk installed or something |
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| 13:01.59 | hyso | I'll try to check some logs or something :S |
| 13:02.04 | theD3viL | shay: which logs? |
| 13:02.22 | hyso | the logs of the debian based distro I installed |
| 13:02.25 | shay | theD3viL, I don't know where they are located, I don't use udev |
| 13:02.36 | theD3viL | shay: sarge? |
| 13:02.55 | beardy | theD3viL: testing or unstable? |
| 13:03.02 | theD3viL | beardy: unstable |
| 13:03.08 | shay | theD3viL, try to run as root: udevd --daemon |
| 13:03.10 | beardy | theD3viL: What kernel? |
| 13:03.22 | theD3viL | beardy: 2.6.15-1-k7 |
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| 13:03.37 | theD3viL | shay: nothing happend |
| 13:03.44 | theD3viL | shay: no errors |
| 13:03.59 | shay | theD3viL, ps axuf|grep udev? |
| 13:04.26 | theD3viL | shay: it shows it |
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| 13:05.49 | bbls7 | hello |
| 13:06.02 | hyso | I just have seen this in the logs :S :S http://pastebin.com/548247 |
| 13:06.05 | beardy | theD3viL: It's running then. Stop it first if you want to start it again, or run /etc/init.d/udev restart instead. (not that that would fix your problem though, but hopefully restart it anyway) |
| 13:06.07 | bbls7 | what version do i have to pass to apt-get in order to install gcc-4.0? |
| 13:06.18 | bbls7 | apt-get -t ??? install gcc-4.0 |
| 13:06.23 | bbls7 | it's in testing |
| 13:06.31 | liable | bbls7: why do you want it? |
| 13:06.37 | hyso | I just hope there is a way to reverse the mkfs.ext3 command or something :( |
| 13:06.41 | bbls7 | because it generates faster code |
| 13:06.46 | theD3viL | beardy: i did. |
| 13:07.03 | bbls7 | also i want to update autoconf, some packages refuse to compile with my default installatoin |
| 13:07.13 | liable | bbls7: and you are going to rebuild your box with it? |
| 13:07.13 | bbls7 | and i already have the latest stable autoconf |
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| 13:07.20 | shingouz | hyso: there is not. another thing: you mentioned "debian based distro". did you install debian or something *based* on debian? |
| 13:07.23 | bbls7 | no, just build some of my programs |
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| 13:07.32 | beardy | theD3viL: You could check http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , not sure if it will help you though. |
| 13:07.35 | hyso | shingouz, yes |
| 13:07.52 | shingouz | hyso: yes? what "yes? |
| 13:07.59 | theD3viL | beardy: okey, tnx.. |
| 13:08.03 | shingouz | hyso: what did you install? |
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| 13:08.18 | beardy | shingouz: Good luck. |
| 13:08.22 | hyso | shingouz, i've installed debian sarge, ubuntu a earlier version of this spanish distro |
| 13:08.47 | hyso | shingouz, i've installed debian sarge, ubuntu and an earlier version of this spanish distro |
| 13:08.51 | liable | kurrimin? |
| 13:08.56 | shingouz | hyso: an earlier version of ubuntu is not debian sarge |
| 13:08.57 | bbls7 | liable, so do you have any idea? |
| 13:09.16 | jm_ | shingouz: he installed all three I guess |
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| 13:09.32 | shingouz | that is what i am afraid of.... |
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| 13:09.36 | Manni2000 | Hallo zusammen |
| 13:09.46 | hyso | shingouz, no... I mean, that the previous version of the distro that corrupted my filesystem installed without problems, the same with ubuntu and debian sarge |
| 13:09.47 | Manni2000 | gibt es vielleicht auch einen deutschen help chat für debian? |
| 13:09.49 | liable | bbls7: if you really want gcc-4.0 google apt-pinning, set up apt.conf and apt-get -t etch gcc-4.0 |
| 13:10.02 | liable | !de |
| 13:10.02 | bbls7 | liable, ok thx |
| 13:10.02 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 13:10.02 | beardy | !de |
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| 13:10.21 | Orakio | Since no one here can help me I'm going to make the assumption that debian no longer works on sun machines. |
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| 13:10.38 | liable | !sparc |
| 13:10.38 | dpkg | from memory, sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 13:10.44 | beardy | Orakio: Strange way to make an assumption. |
| 13:10.52 | rohan | did someone mess up, or is UdontKnow always here ? :) |
| 13:10.52 | Manni2000 | danke - thank you |
| 13:11.00 | shingouz | hyso: if you have formatted some partition to ext3 already, the data you had on it previoiusly is gone. that is why we sometimes use the strange concept of "backups" |
| 13:11.04 | rohan | i use my own kernel. why is this error occuring ? |
| 13:11.05 | rohan | http://rafb.net/paste/results/3ll11r44.html |
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| 13:11.18 | hyso | shingouz, yeah, i know |
| 13:11.27 | fantomas | Can a user run a command chrooted somewhere? I want emulate a kind of isolated box for running some programs |
| 13:11.30 | rohan | strange |
| 13:11.33 | Orakio | Which seems so since before you used to get sparc32 and sparc64 discs and nowyou can only get sparc |
| 13:11.36 | rohan | even deleting that file does not help |
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| 13:11.46 | rohan | and reinstalling the kernel deb wont help too |
| 13:11.51 | hyso | but is not there a way to recover lost partitions or lost data? |
| 13:12.05 | rohan | ewwwww |
| 13:12.08 | rohan | thats not the error |
| 13:12.15 | hyso | I mean, the files should still be there fisically, shouldn't them? |
| 13:12.20 | liable | Orakio: try #debian-sparc, they know for sure. |
| 13:12.28 | rohan | http://rafb.net/paste/results/a13bOj45.html |
| 13:12.33 | rohan | why is this happening ? |
| 13:12.39 | rohan | on my custom kernel ? |
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| 13:13.02 | rohan | removing the file wont help |
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| 13:13.15 | Orakio | Nah, I'm just going to switch to gentoo, at least then I have gaurenteed explicit 64bit support. |
| 13:13.18 | rohan | and reinstalling the kernel .deb wont help too |
| 13:13.26 | Orakio | or LFS |
| 13:13.27 | liable | Orakio: who gives a fuck? |
| 13:14.01 | shingouz | hyso: formatting the partition destroys the previous data. your data is gone, sorry. |
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| 13:14.13 | beardy | !tell orgaZmo_ -about root |
| 13:14.29 | hyso | :( ok, thanks anyway to all of you |
| 13:14.31 | netbrain | what is the problem when i cant burn any faster than 4x when i have 16x capabillity? |
| 13:14.43 | liable | netbrain: media? |
| 13:14.46 | beardy | !testdisk |
| 13:14.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, testdisk is an alternative to gpart. Try gpart first. http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html, or see also gpart, or or if that url doesn't work: http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html Partition scanner and disk recovery tool TestDisk checks the partition and boot sectors of your disks. It is very useful in recovering lost partitions. |
| 13:15.09 | netbrain | liable: dvd |
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| 13:15.14 | beardy | hyso: ^^^ worth a try |
| 13:15.33 | liable | netbrain: i meant, have you tried different media? |
| 13:15.46 | netbrain | worked fine in suse |
| 13:15.49 | beardy | hyso: But if you installed any files on the partition(s), it's pointless. |
| 13:15.50 | netbrain | with same media |
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| 13:15.54 | liable | ok |
| 13:16.02 | mcgreg | liable: hehe indeed. I tested gentoo, compiled everything with g4+altivec-support... well, it compiled 3 days non-stop (I compiled everything)... infact it seemed a little faster after all, but I also had less software, and some packages weren't available and I was pissed of by compiling everything ;) a few days later I returned to debian and I was happy to have it :) |
| 13:16.06 | hyso | beardy, no files were installed |
| 13:16.25 | hyso | the installer only made mkfs.ext3 to the partitions.. don't know why the hell it did that |
| 13:16.31 | beardy | hyso: Try with testdisk then. |
| 13:16.32 | hyso | but it didn't copy any files |
| 13:16.48 | hyso | dpkg, beardy thanks, i'll try that |
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| 13:17.24 | orgazmo | hi there |
| 13:17.26 | mordain | Another point to bear in mind: By far the best way to improve a program's performance dramatically is to use better algorithms. Once profiling has thrown the spotlight on the guilty time-consumer(s), it may be better to re-think your program than to try all the tweaks listed below. |
| 13:17.31 | orgazmo | how do i remove xfree86 from debian box |
| 13:17.33 | liable | mcgreg: my point was basically, he was given the info to try and help him, he ignored it and said he was gonna try gentoo, hence my reply. I dont bash gentoo, just his comment was of no interest to me or generally #debian. :) |
| 13:17.50 | orgazmo | ? |
| 13:17.52 | beardy | mordain: ? |
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| 13:18.14 | jm_ | orgazmo: with aptitude, apt-get, dpkg |
| 13:18.21 | mordain | compiler optimisation does sweet FA, relativly ... |
| 13:18.29 | orgazmo | but how? im an linux n00b |
| 13:18.35 | orgazmo | this is my first install |
| 13:18.39 | rohan | no one knows about the kernel problem ? |
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| 13:18.47 | jm_ | read APT tutorial |
| 13:19.02 | orgazmo | how do i read that one then? as i told. im a n00b |
| 13:19.11 | beardy | orgazmo: 'man aptitude', or 'man apt-get' |
| 13:19.12 | Rawplayer | with your eyes? |
| 13:19.17 | orgazmo | okey.. thx |
| 13:19.29 | jm_ | install apt-doc, point your web browser at usr/share/doc/apt-doc/ and read |
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| 13:19.37 | beardy | orgazmo: How did you install it? |
| 13:19.40 | jm_ | or use text files in there |
| 13:19.55 | orgazmo | installed it from the install menu |
| 13:19.59 | tdz | liable, thanks :D I got debian working |
| 13:20.04 | mcgreg | liable: ok. still debian is much better :) I like the way it is very much. if you want kde, you just install the needed/wanted packagaes. IIRC it doesnt work like this with gentoo, and you need to compile a loong time ;) |
| 13:20.09 | liable | tdz: cool :) |
| 13:20.17 | liable | mcgreg: of course :) |
| 13:20.19 | bartden | i keep getting error's "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: " each time i add a source line and run an apt-get update, how can i solve this ? |
| 13:20.25 | patbrugge | What was the command make sudo availeble to a user again? |
| 13:20.27 | tdz | could you help me with setting up an internet connection? |
| 13:20.34 | beardy | bartden: /topic ? |
| 13:20.46 | fatal_ | patbrugge: visudo? |
| 13:20.50 | liable | tdz: not me, going to bed, someone will though. |
| 13:20.55 | beardy | tdz: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 13:21.10 | tdz | ok thanks :D |
| 13:21.12 | mcgreg | tdz: what kind of internet connection? |
| 13:21.19 | tdz | cable |
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| 13:21.45 | patbrugge | fatal_: thx with man visudo I will find the rest out myself |
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| 13:22.18 | nvz_ | isnt gnu find recursive? |
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| 13:22.31 | mcgreg | hmm I meant.. simple dhcp, or rather a DSL connection with usernames/passowrds etc? |
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| 13:22.45 | mcgreg | @tdz |
| 13:23.07 | resiak | nvz_: 'course find is recursive |
| 13:23.33 | tdz | um, dsl connection type. |
| 13:23.45 | tdz | er, its usb |
| 13:23.52 | jm_ | yay for you |
| 13:23.54 | mcgreg | oh. no idea |
| 13:23.55 | tdz | :( |
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| 13:24.06 | hyso | http://pastebin.com/548260 |
| 13:24.16 | nvz_ | resiak: I thought so..its not finding any files for me "find path/to/tree/ -name *.FOO" and I know there are some 100000 files *.FOO in there somewhere |
| 13:24.19 | hyso | it seems it recognices my fat partitions |
| 13:24.22 | mcgreg | I dont get it why ppl want to use dsl via usb? |
| 13:24.29 | hyso | but I don't know what to do now... |
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| 13:24.57 | beardy | hyso: restore them |
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| 13:25.14 | hyso | beardy, what do I do? Proceed or Save? |
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| 13:25.33 | mordain | cause usb is easy |
| 13:25.34 | beardy | hyso: Save, IIRC, try that first. |
| 13:25.38 | tdz | mcgreg, rather than a network card? |
| 13:25.51 | beardy | hyso: Otherwise, just run again and try the other one. |
| 13:25.59 | hyso | beardy, ok |
| 13:26.29 | mcgreg | doesnt you mainboard have a eth? why not buy a pci-eth-card? very cheap... |
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| 13:26.44 | nvz_ | resiak: *.foo works, but *.FOO doesnt *shrug* there are WAY more *.FOO than *.foo in there |
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| 13:27.22 | tdz | usb is faster |
| 13:27.24 | tdz | :D |
| 13:28.07 | mordain | mcgreg: somtimes ppl just want to use their old hardware, and not buy stuff, there is something beautiful about a 486 linux based routerthat is basiclly free :-) |
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| 13:28.39 | nvz_ | oh well screw find, I will just have to use ls and grep -i |
| 13:28.48 | nvz_ | I dont know wtf its not working |
| 13:28.55 | jm_ | it's PEBKAC problem, not find |
| 13:28.57 | saloxin | nvz_: -iname ? |
| 13:29.20 | mcgreg | mordain: well, buying a router -> doesntz cost much, and it cheaper even than keeping a 486 as router, as he needs much more electricity... |
| 13:30.16 | nvz_ | saloxin: ? shouldnt -name *.FOO return results? |
| 13:30.46 | saloxin | nvz_: i missed first part, though you needed case insensisivity |
| 13:30.54 | kelmo_lap | nvz_, must be careful of the shell that you execute it from also |
| 13:31.30 | nvz_ | kelmo_lap: I am using bash |
| 13:31.52 | nvz_ | if I can figure out how to make LS show full path I can ls -R? | grep -i FOO |
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| 13:31.56 | kelmo_lap | nvz_, i mean, the shell can interpret stuff, stuff you did not intend it to at times |
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| 13:32.11 | nvz_ | I just cant find an option to make ls show the full path to files |
| 13:32.20 | bartden | hi, has anyone got bluej working under debian ? |
| 13:32.23 | mordain | mcgreg: also sometimes ISP's supply usb only dsl modem, and software for windows to set it up... super easy for noobs |
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| 13:32.33 | bert_ | hi |
| 13:32.36 | saloxin | ls suffers from alphabet soup |
| 13:33.05 | saloxin | nvz_: find -name *.TAR works here. i'm i missing something? |
| 13:33.53 | nvz_ | I dont see what its interpreting there when "find foobar/ -name *.foo" finds 179 files and *.FOO finds 0 when I know for certain there are 15559 *.FOO files in there |
| 13:34.00 | nvz_ | saloxin: I dont know am I? |
| 13:34.00 | R3d | I installed xwpe with apt..but than I can't run it..xwpe: command not found..what am I doing wrong? |
| 13:34.14 | jm_ | R3d: I told you what to run earlier |
| 13:34.37 | bert_ | i tried to upgrade from stable to testing. I changed stable to testing in my source.list, then aptitude update & upgrade. No i've some packages broken and i'm unable to repair it, neither removing them. |
| 13:34.40 | saloxin | find ... "*.FOO" <- with quotations? |
| 13:34.56 | bert_ | 'dpkg --configure -a |
| 13:34.58 | saloxin | bert_: hahaha |
| 13:34.59 | nvz_ | saloxin: ah, cool that works |
| 13:35.02 | bert_ | loop infinitely |
| 13:35.15 | R3d | jm_, I didn't see your post ...sorry.. |
| 13:35.17 | jm_ | there PEBKAC eliminated as a cause ;) |
| 13:35.23 | jm_ | R3d: run rehash and hash -r |
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| 13:35.33 | bert_ | is a way to force deleting a packet ? |
| 13:35.41 | Teklap | Hey guys. .I'm running debian sarge |
| 13:35.45 | bert_ | with all conf file associated, etc ? |
| 13:35.48 | R3d | thx..will tri it |
| 13:35.53 | Teklap | What command do I run to get the latest kernel? |
| 13:35.56 | saloxin | nvz_: use muh more "" than you think in bash |
| 13:36.01 | jm_ | if that doesn't solve it, then you have fucked up your PATH |
| 13:36.03 | kelmo_lap | nvz_, the quotes stop the shell from immediately interpreting the wildcard, iirc |
| 13:36.38 | saloxin | nvz_: topic in bash: USE MORE QUOTES! |
| 13:36.40 | nvz_ | kelmo_lap: it doesnt happen with *.foo just with *.FOO |
| 13:36.46 | nvz_ | saloxin: heh |
| 13:37.05 | kelmo_lap | nvz_, because you probably have a *.FOO file in your immediate path |
| 13:37.23 | nvz | kelmo_lap: yes, very likely |
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| 13:39.40 | Teklap | What's the name of the latest kernel pkg that I can apt-get.. how do I find out? |
| 13:40.02 | nvz | Teklap: apt-cache search kernel image |
| 13:40.09 | Teklap | thanks |
| 13:40.23 | kelmo_lap | linux-image maybe . . . |
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| 13:43.13 | hyso | beardy, what should i do in testdisk? tell it to change partiton type? |
| 13:43.35 | bert_ | okay it is repaired :) |
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| 13:44.22 | hyso | in that previous screen if I do proceed or save it does the same thing... it was to this screen: http://pastebin.com/548279 |
| 13:44.30 | hyso | s/was/goes |
| 13:44.33 | supaman | valdyn: yes, I am on a client, but it will talk directly to the printer, not through any server (the server her is misconfigured) |
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| 13:44.54 | kristate | hey, anyone out there? |
| 13:45.02 | nvz | !anyon |
| 13:45.03 | nvz | !anyone |
| 13:45.13 | kristate | Well, If anyone would be willing to help me, I just moved /bin/ accidentally into /var, and now bash won't recognize any commands -- even if I set the path to the particular place where I moved /bin/ |
| 13:45.26 | nvz | !seen anyone |
| 13:45.27 | jm_ | try hash -r |
| 13:45.36 | nvz | dpkg isnt around I guess |
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| 13:45.56 | nvz | neither is anyone :P |
| 13:46.11 | nvz | apt, seen anyone? |
| 13:46.13 | apt | anyone <n=username@3E6B9A9A.rev.stofanet.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 32d 15h 53m 33s ago, saying: '[necro], but I don't know actually.'. |
| 13:46.53 | fatal_ | kristate: boot with the rescue/install cd ... do NOT proceed with the install... use alt+f2 to get to a console... mount the harddrive, move the files back, unmount, boot again and remove the cd (to start your regular install). |
| 13:47.40 | nvz | damn I have a feeling it would have been much quicker to move than to copy all that data |
| 13:47.43 | kristate | fatal_: Unfortunately, this is a dedicated box and I don't have physical access to it at the moment |
| 13:47.44 | xoz | kristate: very bad idea to mess with /bin location ... create a link like ln -s /var/locationofbin /bin |
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| 13:48.15 | kristate | I've been working for 20 hours straight, and I hit /* instead of ./* |
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| 13:49.55 | kristate | Thanks for your kind replies, but is there any way I can do this inside of my current session? |
| 13:50.22 | supaman | umm, give full pathnames to binaries? |
| 13:50.32 | kristate | I tried that, but I returns with |
| 13:50.39 | xoz | kristate: have you created the ln? |
| 13:50.43 | kristate | bash: /var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/bin/ls: No such file or directory |
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| 13:51.25 | xoz | kristate: create a symbolic link from /var/locationofbin to /bin |
| 13:51.27 | kristate | Because I moved /bin to /var, bash doesn't know where anything is it seems |
| 13:51.38 | kristate | I wish I could, but I can't even get ln to go |
| 13:51.49 | supaman | xoz: he cant, ln is in the /bin dir |
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| 13:51.59 | kristate | yeah |
| 13:52.03 | xoz | kristate: try /var/bin/ln -s /var/bin /bin |
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| 13:52.39 | supaman | kristate: you are sure that is the place the bin directory went to? |
| 13:52.41 | xoz | kristate: cd /var/bin/ ... then ./ln -s <...> |
| 13:52.50 | kristate | yes |
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| 13:53.02 | TBBle | Are you sure you only moved /bin? No such file or directory might mean it can't find a library it's expecting from /lib too... |
| 13:53.10 | kristate | $ /var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/bin/ln -s /var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/bin/ /bin |
| 13:53.13 | kristate | bash: /var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/bin/ln: No such file or directory |
| 13:53.25 | kristate | oh, interesting |
| 13:53.27 | supaman | kristate: and if you do /var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/bin/ln it to returns No such file or directory? |
| 13:53.28 | kristate | let me add that to my path |
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| 13:53.47 | kristate | everything in / |
| 13:53.48 | kristate | :/ |
| 13:53.55 | xoz | kristate: it is important you can locate the new bin. |
| 13:54.49 | xoz | kristate: is it working now? |
| 13:55.31 | Teklap | Why is it that when I apt-caseh search mdadm I see it but I can't apt-get install it? |
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| 13:55.41 | kristate | supaman: that is correct |
| 13:55.54 | Teklap | Oh wait.. all a sudden it works :D |
| 13:55.55 | TBBle | Go to the directory and... ./lib/ld-linux.so.2 ./ls |
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| 13:56.18 | Teklap | What package install the mkraid command? |
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| 13:56.41 | jm_ | Teklap: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:56.46 | Usiu | Is it possible to run pbuilder as root ? |
| 13:56.49 | Teklap | BEcause I'm following this software RAID guide and I'm down to the step where I mkraid /dev/<device> and it's not finding the mkraid command |
| 13:56.57 | supaman | Teklap: use apt-file to search for certain files |
| 13:56.58 | kristate | ./ls: error while loading shared libraries: ./ls: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 13:57.03 | Teklap | Thanks |
| 13:57.13 | petemc | Teklap: apt-cache search shows it fine for me |
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| 13:57.28 | myren | how do i get all parameters in sh/bash? |
| 13:57.28 | bbls | hello |
| 13:57.30 | TBBle | kristate: Yup, you've managed to move /lib too. LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./lib ./ls |
| 13:57.32 | Teklap | No I got pask that point |
| 13:57.38 | Teklap | I can't run the mkraid command |
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| 13:57.44 | myren | all parameters in a bash/sh script? |
| 13:57.46 | DevilChaos | hi im trying to config bootsplash and on ther o'reilley hack site and it tells me how to do it but need some tips if possible please? |
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| 13:57.58 | bbls | anyone can tell me how to change console colors (i want to change RGB palette). i'm using sarge |
| 13:58.03 | jm_ | myren: read man bash, Special Parameters |
| 13:58.05 | R3d_ | jm_, I tried hash -r but still the same |
| 13:58.16 | jm_ | R3d_: then your PATH may be fucked, like I said |
| 13:58.46 | jm_ | bbls: man restorepalette |
| 13:58.47 | xoz | kristate: mv back the root subdir in /var ... like /bin, /lib, /sbin, /usr |
| 13:58.48 | phobo | I've installed debian using testing/daily build because of my IRC7R motherboard (sarge can't see my sata disks), however I used the parameter "linux mirror/suite=stable" to install the software as Sarge. Its now ready to reboot but I want to overwrite the installed sarge kernel with something newer. Presumably backports is the best route, so how so i install (presumably this) backports.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image |
| 13:58.49 | phobo | -2.6.15-1-686-smp_2.6.15-4bpo1_i386.deb ?? (i.e. im at the end of my etch install, so I presume I need to do something special?) |
| 13:59.00 | bbls | jm_: thanks |
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| 13:59.21 | Gulligan | heya... i have an problem :S i'm trying to fix some way to block any traffic to certain ip's or ip ranges.... is that possible? need it to block some ip's that are trying to stress my server... prolly some script kiddies trying to ddos or whatever it is ;) cause it lags down sometimes and the router has like 100-200 connections from certain ip's that pinks me and lots of stuff |
| 13:59.29 | kristate | xoz: I wish I could, but without /bin being where it normally is, I cannot execute it |
| 13:59.30 | bbls | jm_: no such app here |
| 13:59.39 | jm_ | bbls: /msg dpkg installit |
| 13:59.42 | zebalin7 | Simple question: Will install debian sid to empty partition. Will (beta) net installer give me choice to leave mbr alone and write boot loader to new root positiion... so I can chainload to it from my etch partition? |
| 13:59.43 | bbls | jm_: also no such package, apt-cache search doesn't find it either |
| 13:59.52 | phobo | Gulligan: have you used iptables? |
| 13:59.54 | jm_ | bbls: /msg dpkg search |
| 14:00.07 | Gulligan | phobo: no i'm not familiar with ip tables |
| 14:00.14 | bbls | jm_: i've done an apt-cache search restorepalette. no results |
| 14:00.31 | xoz | kristate: just cd to the location of bin ... then use ./<command> to execute any command |
| 14:00.46 | Gulligan | phobo: but i'm an fast learner :P |
| 14:00.47 | kristate | Surprisingly, It will not execute |
| 14:00.52 | jm_ | bbls: please read what dpkg told you, it mentions a whole lot more then just apt-cache |
| 14:01.00 | jm_ | than even |
| 14:01.06 | bbls | jm_: dpkg told me nothing so far |
| 14:01.08 | beardy | hyso: Don't /msg people. |
| 14:01.10 | phobo | Gullian: thats the tool you want to use, apt-get install iptables (might already be installed) and have a play. if you're new to it, i encourage you to be at the machine itself, as you might accidently block your own traffic (if you were SSHing to it, etc), and thats a real pain |
| 14:01.13 | jm_ | bbls: you didn't ask it ... |
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| 14:01.29 | bbls | jm_: ah :) |
| 14:01.37 | xoz | kristate: which means that you mv also other subdirs in your / ... you need to use a livecd and mv back those dirs to their proper location. |
| 14:01.43 | myren | how do i read input from stdin in a bash script? |
| 14:01.51 | xoz | myren: < |
| 14:01.58 | britt | I need some help, I need to form a simple shell script to use locate to fine the *.m4a files, and then delete them with rm. I tried doing this |
| 14:01.59 | _eLMo_ | Question: What is unrar called in Debian ? (Can't really find one in apt-cache) |
| 14:02.06 | hyso | beardy, sorry |
| 14:02.08 | kristate | xoz: I know that I have moved everything to var, but var. I did a mv /* /var |
| 14:02.09 | beardy | !unrar |
| 14:02.09 | dpkg | unrar is, like, a non-free package and a command used to extract .rar archives, or ask me about unrar-free |
| 14:02.10 | zebalin7 | On net install.... to get it to use vga=791 is the parm : install vga=791 or is it: linux vga=791 ??? |
| 14:02.12 | jm_ | _eLMo_: /msg dpkg search |
| 14:02.12 | Gulligan | phobo: any links to an site with info onit? as Dpkg didn't respond to iptables :P |
| 14:02.14 | britt | 'locate *.m4a | rm -rf |
| 14:02.18 | TBBle | 00:57 < TBBle> kristate: Yup, you've managed to move /lib too. LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./lib ./ls |
| 14:02.18 | myren | sorry i dont really understand... how would i copy input into a file for example? |
| 14:02.22 | beardy | !unrar-free |
| 14:02.22 | dpkg | hmm... unrar-free is an unarchiver for .rar files that can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format, which is by far the most used RAR format (ask me about unrar for 3.0). in main unstable |
| 14:02.22 | hyso | beardy, I just need some help with testdisk... |
| 14:02.44 | cyzie | how do i add a user so that he can shut down / reboot the OS ? |
| 14:02.46 | kristate | TBBle: Working on it |
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| 14:03.00 | jm_ | cyzie: man shutdown |
| 14:03.02 | beardy | hyso: By the look of your paste, no other partitions than your ext3 partitions were found. |
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| 14:03.09 | _eLMo_ | jm_: told you, couldn't find one in apt-cache (imho dpkg search == apt-cache), I will ask him, but he didn't aswer :p ;) |
| 14:03.11 | jm_ | britt: man xargs |
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| 14:03.16 | Gulligan | phobo: yeah it was installed ;) but googling for info onit ;) don't want to block myself out ;) |
| 14:03.23 | Teklap | Anyone here got experiance with setting up software RAID? |
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| 14:03.28 | jm_ | _eLMo_: for fucks sake, "/msg dpkg search" and read it |
| 14:03.49 | jm_ | !tell _eLMo_ -about search |
| 14:03.53 | jm_ | now it did |
| 14:03.58 | beardy | hyso: If you hit Enter at that screen, what happens then? It's a long time since I ran it last time. |
| 14:04.01 | hyso | If I enter advanced (filesystem utils) it gives me the option to recover the boot sector |
| 14:04.07 | phobo | gullian - you would do something along the lines of iptables -A PREROUTING -s 240.0.0.0/240.0.0.0 -i eth0 -j DROP |
| 14:04.15 | _eLMo_ | jm_: Thank you for the polite language |
| 14:04.21 | kristate | TBBle: Doesn't work. I moved /* to /var/www/static.zooomr.com/images just to give you an idea of what I'm working in |
| 14:04.23 | DevilChaos | bootsplash anyone? |
| 14:04.25 | phobo | (not looking at a actual conf here so it might be slightly differnet gievn its also 3am :P ) |
| 14:04.28 | hyso | just forget about that pastes... now I entered in advanced mode instead of analyse |
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| 14:04.56 | TBBle | kristate: You have to do that in that directory. Otherwise try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/lib /var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/bin/ls |
| 14:05.12 | TBBle | Or... |
| 14:05.12 | phobo | gullian: my example saying "anything from 240.x" should be dropped if it comes in through eth0. there's a million options |
| 14:05.17 | kristate | TBBle: That does not work, either. |
| 14:05.17 | hyso | when I tell it to recover my boot sector it gives me 3 options: Rebuild boot sector, Dump boot and backup sector and repair fat |
| 14:05.22 | asor | can one create a local cache of security.debian.org ? i find it to be very slow nowadays. and when upgrade the same packages on 10-12 different machines it |
| 14:05.27 | TBBle | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/lib /var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/bin/ls |
| 14:05.29 | asor | gets annoying. |
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| 14:05.36 | kristate | Looking at that option |
| 14:05.46 | kristate | WORKS! |
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| 14:06.14 | Gulligan | phobo: well thx for the info ;) i found an "complete guide to iptables" through google ;) |
| 14:06.14 | _eLMo_ | jm_: dpkg doesn't respond to 'search rar' |
| 14:06.14 | jm_ | asor: you can use a proxy with apt-get, or take al ook at apt-proxy |
| 14:06.14 | jm_ | _eLMo_: that would be because that's invalid command |
| 14:06.15 | hyso | beard: http://pastebin.com/548305 |
| 14:06.15 | _eLMo_ | jm_: find doesn't work either |
| 14:06.22 | TBBle | asor: In fact, apt-cache search should suggest several caching things with the right keywords. |
| 14:06.30 | hyso | beardy, what do you recomend me to do in that screen? |
| 14:07.09 | TBBle | kristate: Good. Now firstly: |
| 14:07.30 | TBBle | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/lib /var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /var/www/static.zooomr.com/images/bin/mv /var/www/static.zoomr.com/images/lib / |
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| 14:07.32 | kristate | TBBle: I just moved them back, thanks alot |
| 14:07.42 | jfs | Gulligan: just ip route add <ip> prohibit and you're done, see man 8 ip |
| 14:07.45 | asor | thanks all. ill try apt-proxy |
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| 14:07.53 | __doc__ | hi, stupid question. how do I automatically remount some smbfs stuff on system start? |
| 14:07.55 | TBBle | kristate: No wuckers. ^_^ |
| 14:08.02 | jfs | Gulligan: err, ip route add prohibit <ip> |
| 14:09.13 | britt | what was that program for scripts? xorg |
| 14:09.24 | jm_ | xargs, learn to write things down |
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| 14:09.30 | jfs | Gulligan: it's like just nullrouting the source, howver there are some more options than just prohibit, see the manpage |
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| 14:09.41 | bgm | Hi. In unstable upgrade, gconf2-common has a ucf error because it seems ucf returns 1 in postinst. Any ideas? |
| 14:09.53 | britt | jm_: I have nine computers in my office right now that i'm working on |
| 14:09.59 | Gulligan | jfs: well man 8 ip didn't show anything |
| 14:10.10 | Gulligan | "man 8 ip" |
| 14:10.17 | _eLMo_ | Question: Anyone know of a program that unrars ? I used unrar in gentoo, but you don't seem to have that in apt. |
| 14:10.20 | jm_ | britt: how is that an excuse for not writing things down is beyond me |
| 14:10.26 | jfs | Gulligan: apt-get install iproute |
| 14:10.39 | jm_ | _eLMo_: then use other methods mentioned by dpkg |
| 14:11.10 | phobo | gullian: doesn't man iptables show ya what you want? |
| 14:11.41 | Gulligan | phobo: a little to cryptic for me ;) |
| 14:11.46 | petemc | most man pages are |
| 14:11.49 | shingouz | _eLMo_: apt-cache search unrar |
| 14:11.55 | Teklap | Ok this is getting annoyin |
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| 14:12.08 | Teklap | Anyone here with software raid experiance? |
| 14:12.28 | _eLMo_ | shingouz: doh, READ ... :\... |
| 14:12.32 | phobo | anyone know if the daily builds reliably give let yuor machine boot? I remember somewhere that LILO was suggested when using software raid on SATA disks, but the installer chucked on GRUB... now I have to reboot but I'd rather know it will :P |
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| 14:12.42 | petemc | _eLMo_: i think you're the one that needs to read |
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| 14:12.47 | britt | jm_: i accidently closed irssi, im sorry if i upset you by my lack of writing utensils |
| 14:12.48 | _eLMo_ | jm_: apt-file update doesn't work, I get two errors about sh: curl: not found |
| 14:12.48 | phobo | Teklap: wahts your question? |
| 14:12.57 | Teklap | Well |
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| 14:13.10 | Teklap | Following this guide |
| 14:13.11 | Teklap | http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO-5.html |
| 14:13.21 | jfs | man pages cryptic? try 'man man | figlet | lpr' and have fun |
| 14:13.22 | Teklap | Down to the point where I make the raid array |
| 14:13.22 | iostream | Hi. What NIC should I buy? What is well supported and tested? |
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| 14:13.27 | Teklap | Already did the configs |
| 14:13.39 | Teklap | apt-get the latest ketnel as recommended |
| 14:13.40 | beardy | hyso: Rebuild BS or Repair FAT, I'm not sure, I would try Rebuild BS first. |
| 14:13.50 | _eLMo_ | jm_: nevermind, installed curl |
| 14:13.51 | Teklap | Now when I run mkraid it says it can't find the file |
| 14:14.00 | hyso | beardy, ok |
| 14:14.02 | webwolf_27 | I want to set my brother in law with debian sarge on a fluxbox environment. How many of the cd's is he gonna need |
| 14:14.20 | jm_ | _eLMo_: right |
| 14:14.33 | hyso | beardy, none of the options work :( |
| 14:14.40 | phobo | teklap: are you making a new box or upgrading an existing system? because the current installer has a wizard for setting up software raid. i notice above you cant find the mkraid program? |
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| 14:14.50 | hyso | beardy, rebuild fat tells me: Boot sector not valid, can't check FAT. |
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| 14:15.09 | Teklap | `New box |
| 14:15.16 | Teklap | ahh |
| 14:15.19 | Teklap | Sec |
| 14:15.27 | jm_ | webwolf_27: that largely depends on which packages you want to install |
| 14:15.29 | hyso | and Rebuild BS gives me the same error as in the latest pastebin you saw... |
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| 14:15.51 | Teklap | How do I run the wizard? |
| 14:16.01 | jm_ | Teklap: magic wand! |
| 14:16.09 | Teklap | heh |
| 14:16.14 | TBBle | jfs: Hehe. |
| 14:16.20 | beardy | hyso: Ok. I guess it wont work then, sorry. |
| 14:16.30 | hyso | beardy, ok |
| 14:16.32 | phobo | it just happens as one of the steps of the installer |
| 14:16.47 | Teklap | Yeah I know.. installation of what raidtools2? |
| 14:16.53 | Teklap | Because I removed it and put it back |
| 14:16.54 | Teklap | no wiz |
| 14:16.54 | phobo | in Sarge Im fairly certain I saw it, althogh Ive been playing with Etch |
| 14:16.54 | hyso | thanks for the info anyway, I'll keep trying with other tools some more, and hope some work |
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| 14:17.05 | TBBle | Isn't raidtools deprecated in favour of mdadm? |
| 14:17.06 | hyso | beardy, bye |
| 14:17.11 | bgm | What is the best way to debug postinst scripts that return an error? |
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| 14:17.12 | beardy | hyso: Good luck. |
| 14:17.15 | Turgon | Hi |
| 14:17.18 | abrotman | bgm: eyes! |
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| 14:17.25 | Turgon | Anyone experienced with keepalived? |
| 14:17.27 | bgm | hrm :) |
| 14:17.33 | jm_ | bgm: shell script? set -x, rerun it |
| 14:17.37 | phobo | no, in the initial installer of sarge when using the netinst image |
| 14:17.44 | Teklap | Oh |
| 14:17.46 | phobo | and presumably other images, tho ive not dabbled with them |
| 14:17.59 | Teklap | Nah.. I got a wizard when I was somewhere in the steps before this point |
| 14:18.02 | Teklap | I'll look around |
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| 14:18.11 | bgm | I try to dpkg -D022 and Ctrl+Z before it unpacks the scripts.. but they keep being overwritten, and this is difficult via ssh .. |
| 14:18.19 | bgm | (in order to set -x) |
| 14:18.21 | abrotman | what package? |
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| 14:18.23 | phobo | anyway, if you're box is up and running you can probably not ditch the box and just get raid going |
| 14:18.29 | Turgon | I've got a bunch of "Netlink: filter function error" that I don't know what to do with |
| 14:18.30 | cyzie | jm_, man shutdown does not help much. |
| 14:18.30 | jm_ | don't reinstall it after you put in set -x ... |
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| 14:18.42 | jm_ | cyzie: yes it does, read ACCESS CONTROL section |
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| 14:19.06 | bgm | jm_: oh, just (for example) "sh gconf2-common.postinst" ? |
| 14:19.08 | _eLMo_ | jm_: I'm sorry, but I can't get a package name from apt-file search, apt-get search has nothing either, /msg dpkg find unrar only gives me 'Updating debian files', and the only thing I need to know is wich program unpacks rars... Since i'm used to using /usr/bin/unrar.. Don't know of any other.. |
| 14:19.17 | jm_ | bgm: no, dpkg --pending --configure |
| 14:19.24 | bgm | ah, great, thanks! |
| 14:19.29 | jm_ | _eLMo_: /msg dpkg non-free |
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| 14:19.57 | cyzie | jm_, how do i add a user to /var/run/utmp ? |
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| 14:20.09 | jm_ | cyzie: why would you do that? |
| 14:20.12 | _eLMo_ | jm_: I'll go back too Gentoo, weird distro :\ |
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| 14:20.42 | jm_ | I cann tell you where people that care live |
| 14:20.42 | cyzie | jm_, because when i install etch, it dont allow normal user to shutdwon. so everytime i need to login as root in order to shutdwon/ reboot OS |
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| 14:21.00 | aglet | cyzie: sudo ..? |
| 14:21.06 | jm_ | cyzie: that's solved by editing /etc/shutdown.allow, not /var/run/utmp, or use sudo |
| 14:21.12 | cyzie | aglet, sudo is not im looking for i believe |
| 14:21.34 | Vladdie | I need an advice for a distro to use: A buddy of mine wants to install some distro on his old notebook to "play" around. So far he has no clue about linux... what would you recommend for him to use? Debian? RH? SuSE? Gentoo? Ubuntu? Mepis? FC4? |
| 14:21.41 | DevilChaos | bbfn |
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| 14:21.51 | Turgon | Vladdie: Windows XP |
| 14:21.54 | aglet | Vladdie: ubuntu is probably not a bad bet |
| 14:22.07 | cyzie | jm_, weird do, in my other box where i have debian + kde, i dotn see any /etc/shutdown.allow though my normal user can shutdown. can you explain this ? |
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| 14:22.11 | Vladdie | well, from my point of view I use Debian |
| 14:22.15 | shingouz | Vladdie: you are asking that question on #debian. take a wild guess what we recommend? |
| 14:22.22 | webwolf_27 | jm_, he won't have an internet connection. He just want to play a few games and write |
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| 14:22.35 | aglet | shingouz: does Debian have a decent live cd..? |
| 14:22.43 | azeem | aglet: it's called Knoppix |
| 14:22.48 | jm_ | cyzie: learn to ask your questions - shutting things down from KDE is not the same as using shutdown, I don't use KDE, but try #debian-kde or #kde |
| 14:22.49 | aglet | ah yes |
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| 14:23.21 | Vladdie | shingouz: well, I could go to each channel and ask in every one of them... but that would not help either I think |
| 14:23.21 | jm_ | webwolf_27: that's exactly why you need to know what you want to install so that you can download the right CD-s |
| 14:23.51 | cyzie | jm_, i didnt mentioned debian + kde that kde shutdown the system. what im trying to see is that how can a normal user shutdown/reboot. |
| 14:23.59 | shingouz | Vladdie: in that case, install debian on the thing |
| 14:24.01 | jm_ | cyzie: man shutdown |
| 14:24.21 | webwolf_27 | jm_, I'm thinking of just grabbing both dvd's, but they won't have contrib and non-free, will they |
| 14:24.28 | Vladdie | how does debian go with wlan cards (LevelOne PCMCIA 54mbps)? |
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| 14:25.05 | aglet | Vladdie: try http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ |
| 14:25.07 | shingouz | Vladdie: like any other linux, depends on the kernel |
| 14:25.16 | jm_ | webwolf_27: yeah, I think they don't |
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| 14:25.17 | cyzie | k, thanks anyway jm_ |
| 14:25.45 | webwolf_27 | jm_, hell I can always grab what he needs from them seperatly |
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| 14:25.55 | Vladdie | well, I've never tried running wlan cards on linux ^^ |
| 14:26.17 | aglet | Vladdie: see the URL above |
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| 14:28.13 | doubleukay | anyone used a netgear broadband router recently? what's the setup url again.. goes something like http://www.routersetup.net |
| 14:28.16 | Vladdie | thx for that link |
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| 14:28.59 | doubleukay | ah found it, it's http://www.routerlogin.net |
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| 14:32.19 | andax | is it possible to use dual-head setup in console? I mean I have a working dual head configuration in X, but when I change back to the console both displays show the same console. Is it possible to somehow make the "alt+f1" and "alt+f2" consoles appear on different screens at the same time? |
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| 14:34.02 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 14:34.02 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 14:34.35 | jfs | tarzeau: popcorn is good, too (: |
| 14:34.35 | rohan | does konqueror hang on sid, when opening image files, for any of you ? |
| 14:34.45 | abrotman | !bts |
| 14:34.46 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 14:35.02 | abrotman | rohan: your first stop for any issues with programs in sid should be the BTS |
| 14:35.33 | rohan | abrotman: i'd rather wait for a day or two :) |
| 14:35.49 | abrotman | rohan: but you came to ask us? |
| 14:35.59 | rohan | yes, to see if anyone else experiences it. |
| 14:36.07 | rohan | abrotman: and ,i am filing the bug as we speak. |
| 14:36.12 | abrotman | go look in the BTS .. that's what it is there for |
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| 14:38.06 | phobo | does http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ list both sarge and etch stuff, or does viewing this imply that kernel 2.6.15 is now in sarge? |
| 14:38.23 | resiak | The former |
| 14:38.39 | abrotman | phobo: it is not in sarge .. sarge has a 2.6.8 kernel or a 2.4.27 kernel |
| 14:38.46 | abrotman | (for x86 anyways) |
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| 14:39.11 | TBBle | phobo: And it remain there, too. 2.6.15 will never "now" be in Sarge. |
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| 14:40.06 | rurouni | anyone here know how to recurse into subdirs in a logrotate config file? |
| 14:40.07 | phobo | thought so; can I wget and dpkg it anyway, as I need to get my support for a specific SATA development that happended between 2.6.8 and 2.6.15, or is it much better to use backports.org ? |
| 14:40.48 | abrotman | phobo: don't use the 2.6.15 |
| 14:40.54 | abrotman | at least not that one |
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| 14:41.31 | TBBle | phobo: backports.org, I'd suggest, over pulling out of unstable. Alternatively, kernel-package and build one yourself... |
| 14:41.47 | phobo | thanks |
| 14:42.17 | phobo | is directly wgetting and dpkging an individual bakport kernel sufficient, if that is all I am trying to do ? |
| 14:42.25 | Xteven | hello, can anyone tell me how to create 3 primary partitions with partman-auto and preseed ? It always creates 1 primary partition and an extended one with 2 logical partitions in it (sda1, sda5 and sda6 while I want sda[123]) |
| 14:42.35 | phobo | or do I need to also install other upgraded modules |
| 14:42.46 | phobo | to allow for the 2.6.8 to 2.6.15 jump |
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| 14:43.40 | TBBle | phobo: You'll also need to upgrade udev, if you're using it. And install initramfs-tools or yaird. |
| 14:44.10 | TBBle | initramfs-tools requires udev. The easiest way to upgrade udev is to either boot into a 2.4 kernel, or uninstall udev, upgrade kernel, and then install newer udev. |
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| 14:45.03 | phobo | cool, and you think thats all? |
| 14:45.40 | zignig | bleh! |
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| 14:46.38 | zignig | TBBle: what is you opinion on udev , cool or borkage ? |
| 14:46.42 | TBBle | phobo: Off hand. I'd really really really suggest using apt-get, so it can resolve that sort of nonsense for you. |
| 14:47.03 | TBBle | I like udev. But I also liked devfs, so my opinion is prolly from the far whacky outfield end of the spectrum. |
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| 14:47.34 | rohan | !forgotroot |
| 14:47.49 | zignig | TBBle: good , only way :) , it needs some bugs but dynamic device handlers is a _good_ thing in perspective. |
| 14:47.49 | rohan | whats the factoid for forgot root password |
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| 14:48.08 | bbrazil | !forgot root's password |
| 14:48.09 | petemc | rohan: i forgot root's password |
| 14:48.12 | zignig | TBBle: or does it have enough bugs already ? |
| 14:48.13 | TBBle | tell rohan about init=/bin/bash ? |
| 14:48.13 | wam | Hi! Which debian-port should I install on a Dual-XEON Server? Is this the IA-64 port? |
| 14:48.27 | jfs | rohan: just reboot with init=/bin/bash and set a new one |
| 14:48.28 | zignig | bbrazil: what's you IP , we'll get it <NOT> |
| 14:48.53 | TBBle | zignig: udev's getting pretty good now. Integrating hotplug seems to actually have reconciled the two systems nicely, to my utter relief. |
| 14:49.02 | rohan | jfs: i want to paste the info for a friend :) |
| 14:49.18 | TBBle | wam: Nope. You want the i386 port,and then install the 686-smp kernel and related libc |
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| 14:49.37 | Eclipser | tvtime needs noise reduction filter :< |
| 14:49.49 | Eclipser | and I need a digitv card |
| 14:49.55 | wam | TBBle: why? Or does IA-64 not fit xeon and the correct (unofficial) port would be amd64? |
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| 14:51.11 | deeler | hi, users send pdf files to a server via FTP, i need a script that prints them as soon as they are received, how do i know if the file is completly transferred ???? |
| 14:51.24 | Xteven | where could I go ask questions about partman-auto and preseed ? |
| 14:51.24 | TBBle | wam: Xeon's not 64-bit. Unless you've gotten an EMT-64 Xeon? |
| 14:51.32 | TBBle | wam: ia64 is something totally different. |
| 14:51.49 | Eclipser | hum, I wonder if mythtv has noise reduction |
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| 14:52.12 | phobo | tbble: so i used apt, which stuff would I allow it to grab from backports? would i set it up temporarily to grab anything from backports, then "lock it down" to standard stable sources again? |
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| 14:52.26 | wam | TBBle: no, I have no EMT-64. Thanks for the info. I seem to be totaly stupid. |
| 14:52.37 | MrNaz | TBBle do you have to add smp support after installing debian? |
| 14:52.45 | TBBle | wam: You're not the first person to hope Xeon is more than it is... |
| 14:52.57 | MrNaz | wam there are no stupid questions, only curious idiots :) |
| 14:53.04 | petemc | emt-64 xeons are pretty common now |
| 14:53.04 | TBBle | phobo: I'd add backports to your list, set the Default distribution to stable, and just apt-get -t backports what you need and hope for the best. |
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| 14:53.18 | MrNaz | wam but no your questions were perfectly reasonable |
| 14:53.28 | TBBle | MrNaz: You don't have to, but if you want to use it... Actually debian-installer in expert mode asks which kernel you want, as I recall. |
| 14:53.47 | MrNaz | TBBle so if you dont it'll only use one cpu? |
| 14:54.03 | TBBle | MrNaz: If you're running a non-SMP kernel, it'll only use one CPU, yes. |
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| 14:54.19 | MrNaz | TBBle wow |
| 14:54.41 | MrNaz | i am *days* away from putting this server into the data center and i'd have never known it was only using one cpu |
| 14:54.51 | zignig | TBBle: yep , automated scripts to mount nad present devices, a cool thing but security can be a problem with auto devices, |
| 14:55.02 | TBBle | zignig: /etc/udev/permissions.d? |
| 14:55.04 | andax | MrNaz: if you don't read just keep pressing enter during the setup process it will only use 1 cpu. If you read and choose the right kernel image it will use 2. |
| 14:55.28 | zignig | TBBle: hehe, with a windows box , you can put an autoexec.bat on it and it will run without unlocking. |
| 14:55.32 | TBBle | MrNaz: I've done that myself, forgotten to upgrade the -386 kernel to the -686-smp kernel. I had it installed in the rack, but not yet in production. ^_^ |
| 14:55.34 | MrNaz | andax the install procedure i followed did not give me that option |
| 14:55.36 | zignig | TBBle: *fixed with group policy .... ;/ |
| 14:56.01 | MrNaz | TBBle i have a dual cpu opteron box... anything i should know when doing this? |
| 14:56.31 | andax | MrNaz: in that case you have to apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686-smp then reboot and problem solved. |
| 14:56.37 | TBBle | MrNaz: Uh, yeah. Don't use irqbalance, it turns out to be dumb. Let one CPU have it's cache hammered by IRQs, and one can keep working on important stuff. |
| 14:56.41 | predius_ | how do I set my keymap out of X? |
| 14:56.51 | TBBle | Uh, dual-opteron. You're using AMD64, right? |
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| 14:57.31 | MrNaz | TBBle no, i decided not to... |
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| 14:57.38 | bgm | predius_ : "out of X".. you mean the keyboard in console, or in xterm? |
| 14:57.48 | predius_ | bgm: console |
| 14:58.32 | bgm | predius_ : is it a latin keymap or non-latin? |
| 14:58.34 | TBBle | MrNaz: Hmm. Then presumably whatever k7-smp kernel is in Sarge... Work out which cpu has the IRQs, and use affinity to tie your major application to the other one. |
| 14:58.35 | xoz | have you noticed that grub menu.lst is fckd during kernel upgrade? what script does this? |
| 14:58.58 | predius_ | bgm: latin american |
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| 14:59.00 | TBBle | xoz: Can't say I've noticed it, and prolly update-grub... |
| 14:59.11 | bgm | predius_ : ah, then "loadkeys" I think |
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| 14:59.42 | bgm | predius_ : I thikn the conf file is somewhere near /etc/console |
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| 15:00.10 | xoz | TBBle: it changes my root from hd0,0 to hd0,8 |
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| 15:01.02 | TBBle | xoz: Uh... Eww. Have a look at /boot/grub/devices.lst... |
| 15:01.18 | wam | TBBle: When they say "Dual 64 Bit Intel Xeon Processor 2.8 GHz" - is this the EM64T-Version and I can use the unofficial AMD64-Port? |
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| 15:01.59 | cahoot | xoz: look into /etc/kernel-img.conf |
| 15:02.38 | xoz | TBBle: doesnt have that file |
| 15:02.58 | Acid`X | !ping |
| 15:02.58 | dpkg | pong |
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| 15:03.05 | cahoot | device.map |
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| 15:03.11 | TBBle | cahoot: Thanks. |
| 15:03.37 | tijn | Q: just got my new laptop, when installing Debian 3.1 on it it says Uncompressing Linux.. OK, booting the kernel |
| 15:03.41 | tijn | and then nothing |
| 15:03.43 | tijn | just black |
| 15:04.02 | ryushe | lo, got a machine with 2GB ddr2 RAM in it, which is seen by the BIOS as 2GB, debian however only sees 1GB, where should I look to correct this, or is there something else going on? |
| 15:04.17 | phobo | tjin: try installing with linx26 to see if that provides hardware support for what you have |
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| 15:04.25 | phobo | linux26 sorry |
| 15:04.30 | ryushe | tijn > what kind of laptop? |
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| 15:04.46 | tijn | Asus aspire 1650 WLMi |
| 15:05.03 | TBBle | xoz: grep '^# kopt=root' /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 15:05.06 | tdz | how do i install disk 4 and so on through debian? |
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| 15:05.28 | phobo | ryshe: kernel might have support for only 1gb ram (i new there was a old limit of around 800mb a few years back) ?? in which case upgrading kernel would fix |
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| 15:05.43 | cahoot | if highmem is set |
| 15:05.53 | TBBle | ryushe: Make sure you're not running a -386 kernel... Lower-spec kernels are usually not compiled with 4G support. |
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| 15:06.32 | tijn | phobo, tried that |
| 15:06.34 | ryushe | TBBle > I checked kernel config, and it has memory support turned on up to 4GB |
| 15:06.46 | tijn | also tried kubuntu and knoppix.. same |
| 15:06.47 | wam | When the Hardware-Dealer says "Dual 64 Bit Intel Xeon Processor 2.8 GHz" - is this the EM64T-Version and I can use the unofficial AMD64-Port? |
| 15:07.00 | ryushe | and it's running 2.6.14.3 atm |
| 15:07.20 | predius_ | is there a reason why after I install nvidia kernel module I cant modprobe it? |
| 15:07.23 | TBBle | ryushe: apic disabled? What's the boot output say? |
| 15:07.25 | ryushe | 2.6.14.3 i686 SMP in full |
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| 15:08.07 | TBBle | wam: That's prolly EMT-64 then... which would work with the EMT-64 port... To be sure, Intel puts "Extreme" on their 64-bit CPU names. |
| 15:08.10 | tijn | tried to boot with linux26 vga-771 |
| 15:08.13 | tijn | but.... |
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| 15:08.21 | phobo | I seem to remember an old situation where it would display the amount of memory (e.g. 2GB) but say "only using x amount of this"... look in your log for something along these lines? |
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| 15:08.56 | wam | TBBle: EMT-64 port? I only found AMD64 port here: http://www.debian.org/ports/ |
| 15:08.58 | xoz | TBBle: update-grub is trying to be smart. i haven't used update-grub which expects to be run in command line to update the latest default |
| 15:09.11 | TBBle | wam: Yeah, that's what I meant. I'm an idiot... |
| 15:09.25 | wam | TBBle: Cool - thanks! Maybe I'll try this port... |
| 15:09.26 | ryushe | it does mention this: "Warning only 896MB will be used. Use a HIGHMEM enabled kernel. 896MB LOWMEM available." but after checking kernel config, I however DO have highmem support on :/ |
| 15:09.35 | TBBle | xoz: update-grub is run by the kernel upgrade scripts, as I recally, if grub's installed. |
| 15:09.53 | cahoot | xoz: look into /etc/kernel-img.conf |
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| 15:10.26 | tubaman | how do i get "domain mydomain.com" to show up in resolv.conf? |
| 15:10.38 | tubaman | I'm using resolvconf |
| 15:10.49 | tijn | YaaY got it :D noacpi :D |
| 15:10.50 | tijn | w00t |
| 15:11.00 | TBBle | tubaman: dns-domain mydomain.com or something... Have a look at the docs in /usr/share/doc/resolvconf |
| 15:11.41 | tubaman | TBBle, I've tried dns-domain in /etc/network/interfaces. 'domain' still doesn't show up in resolv.conf |
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| 15:12.31 | ryushe | very odd this is, will recompile kernel and see what happens |
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| 15:12.56 | TBBle | tubaman: ifup -v should show you the scripts being run... |
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| 15:15.17 | TBBle | mikeX: Is there an x-windows-dev? |
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| 15:15.42 | mikeX | yes there is TBBle thanks |
| 15:15.43 | mhall | where can i get the changelog of a debian upload |
| 15:15.48 | mikeX | I used to use xlibs-dev |
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| 15:16.01 | tubaman | TBBle, thx. I'll try that. |
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| 15:17.33 | TBBle | mikeX: xlibs-dev wasn't a meta-package. It's been split into the actual consituent -dev packages. |
| 15:17.43 | TBBle | mhall: The .changes file |
| 15:18.08 | azeem | mhall: packages.qa.debian.org/<package>, check the news entries on the right |
| 15:18.13 | azeem | only has the last few |
| 15:18.23 | azeem | mhall: or search the debian-devel-changes archive |
| 15:18.59 | pharm | mhall: or grab the package, unpack it and examine the changelog |
| 15:19.28 | mhall | pharm: part of what i'm determining is if wasting the 20M DL will actually fix a bug |
| 15:19.33 | pharm | mhall: If you want to see the changes before upgrading, apt-listchanges may be what you want. apt-listbugs for the paranoid :) |
| 15:19.43 | mhall | pharm: or whether to go on an SDN hunt |
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| 15:19.53 | pharm | mhall: Ah, usually packages.debian.org then, but that's down... |
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| 15:20.22 | jff8829 | Hey, does Debian support TurboSPARC processors? |
| 15:20.28 | mhall | pharm: pdo.debian.net :-) |
| 15:20.31 | metaperl | does anyone know how to sum up a column in openoffice calc? |
| 15:20.38 | TBBle | And pdo.debian.net doesn't have changelogs yet. packages.qa.debian.org is prolly the right thing for what you want. |
| 15:20.40 | mhall | jff8829: remind me which boxes are turbo sparc and i will tell you |
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| 15:20.57 | mhall | metaperl: yeah do you want it in the worksheet or just want the number ASAP |
| 15:21.00 | jff8829 | mhall: I'm thinking of a SPARCstation 5 with the 170MHz proc. |
| 15:21.13 | jff8829 | I've come to understand that is the processor it has, anyway |
| 15:21.17 | mhall | metaperl: if you want it asap then highlight with the mouse and it shows up down below in status bar |
| 15:21.34 | mhall | jff8829: right-o but i don't think in terms of sparcs but in terms of the boxen themselves |
| 15:21.35 | metaperl | mhall: how do I put it in a cell? |
| 15:21.41 | mhall | metaperl: ok one sec |
| 15:21.43 | Rolandow | hi .. i am running debian sarge, and would like to install mysql-server-4.1 from test .. when i tried apt-get -t testing mysql-server-4.1 it messed up some dependencies, and eventually my apt |
| 15:21.53 | Rolandow | what is the correct way to mix sarge stable and tested.. ? |
| 15:22.06 | TBBle | Rolandow: backports.org is prolly a safer bet, much less likely to upgrade your libc6 on you. |
| 15:22.07 | Rolandow | i thought i'd just put the tested in the apt sources as well |
| 15:22.08 | pharm | mhall: for some reason pdo.debian.net doesn't want to give me the changelogs. Weird. |
| 15:22.14 | jff8829 | mhall: What do you mean... it's called a SS5, 170Mhz, pizza-box style |
| 15:22.20 | TBBle | 02:20 < TBBle> And pdo.debian.net doesn't have changelogs yet. |
| 15:22.24 | Rolandow | TBBle: yes it did.. but why did the dependencies fail then? |
| 15:22.33 | mhall | metaperl: the big sigma next to the inputter in the top toolbar |
| 15:22.33 | pharm | mhall: of course, you can always pull the latest addition to the changelog out of the diff in the main debian archive... |
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| 15:22.39 | Rolandow | TBBle: backport doesn't have mysql 4 |
| 15:22.41 | mhall | metaperl: assuming version 2 |
| 15:22.46 | TBBle | Rolandow: Who can say? |
| 15:22.50 | mhall | metaperl: looks like an 'E' |
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| 15:23.02 | TBBle | Rolandow: Meh. Well, there's backporting instructions on the site, or at least there used to be... |
| 15:23.04 | metaperl | most spreadsheets have a "sigma" symbol... hmmm maybe I dont have that toolbar enabled...' |
| 15:23.13 | mhall | pharm: yeah i'm just gonna use -listchanges and -listbugs |
| 15:23.17 | Rolandow | TBBle: i browsed through the packages, they only have mysql 5 |
| 15:23.28 | mhall | metaperl: version 2 puts it next to data entry line at top of screen |
| 15:23.35 | metaperl | Oh I found it thanks |
| 15:23.36 | TBBle | Rolandow: And 4.0's in stable, but 4.1 isn't? Hmm. |
| 15:23.37 | Rolandow | i just want to upgrade mysql 4.1.11 to 4.1.15 |
| 15:23.48 | mhall | metaperl: they tried to make it easy to see for convenience but it failed, hehe |
| 15:23.59 | TBBle | Rolandow: Hmm. Can you work around this need? |
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| 15:24.01 | Rolandow | 4.1.11 is stable, but contains a bug .. 4.1.15 is in tested only |
| 15:24.04 | metaperl | mhall: I did not have View -> Tools set |
| 15:24.06 | mhall | jff8829: sorry wasn't trying to be confusing |
| 15:24.07 | Rolandow | no i can't :( |
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| 15:24.25 | Rolandow | i compiled mysql myself now .. but that isn't very nice for upgrades |
| 15:24.27 | zebalin7 | mhall: how is the gtk-qt engine working for you? |
| 15:24.41 | mhall | zebalin7: it works great in firefox and gaim; thanks for the tip |
| 15:24.43 | tubaman | TBBle, what script from "ifup -v" sets domain in resolv.conf? |
| 15:24.44 | coolpix | hello |
| 15:24.54 | Rolandow | i tought, maybe i'm doing something wrong with the testing packages.. |
| 15:25.02 | mhall | zebalin7: some of the firefox scrollbars are weird, like when an idiot designer sets the size to way too fucking small |
| 15:25.08 | zebalin7 | mhall: no black drop-down screens? What theme/style do you use in kde? |
| 15:25.16 | TBBle | tubaman: /etc/network/if-up.d/000resolvconf |
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| 15:25.42 | TBBle | Rolandow: If you're willing to rebuild mysql, rebuild the package from testing locally instead, with a lowered version number, as hopefully documented at backports.org |
| 15:25.44 | jff8829 | mhall? |
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| 15:26.05 | mhall | jff8829: yeah alright |
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| 15:26.13 | mhall | jff8829: so let me give you a link and some info |
| 15:26.14 | TBBle | Rolandow: In theory, a failure like you describe is a bug in something in testing. It's also possibly already known and reported in the BTS. |
| 15:26.19 | CGI979 | hello, everybody |
| 15:26.20 | mhall | jff8829: you just left too quick |
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| 15:26.31 | CGI979 | hello everybody |
| 15:26.34 | jff8829 | mhall: Okay |
| 15:26.42 | mhall | jff8829: big busy channels like this, sometimes it takes a while |
| 15:26.44 | phobo | whats the difference between linux-image-xxx and kernel-image-xxx packages? |
| 15:26.44 | mhall | jff8829: lists.debian.org/debian-sparc |
| 15:26.54 | mhall | phobo: renamed to be more clear |
| 15:27.04 | mhall | phobo: some kernels are not linux, like the hurd kernel |
| 15:27.05 | Rolandow | TBBle: hm.. i'll try to find out on backports.org then .. |
| 15:27.06 | cahoot | phobo: etch vs sarge |
| 15:27.07 | tubaman | TBBle, I've looked through that script and it seems that $IF_DNS_DOMAIN needs to be set before domain gets added to resolv.conf |
| 15:27.19 | tubaman | What sets that value? |
| 15:27.20 | vieira2 | hi everyone, hi cgi-something |
| 15:27.26 | mhall | jff8829: search the archives and post for help from experts at that location |
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| 15:27.49 | user__ | hi |
| 15:27.50 | CGI979 | hi, someone can help me? |
| 15:27.51 | mhall | jff8829: next thing, these older sparcs are not officially supported but Jurij Smakov figured out some hacks that make them work |
| 15:27.57 | user__ | how do i get rid of gcj? |
| 15:28.00 | TBBle | tubaman: tubaman $IF_DNS_DOMAIN is set from the dns-domain entry in the interface's stanza by ifup. |
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| 15:28.12 | CGI979 | I installed Debian Sarge, but my X not upload |
| 15:28.19 | user__ | when i type 'java' in console i get gcj help |
| 15:28.22 | vieira2 | anyone here is aware of a arm-elf toolchain pre-built for Debian? (i.e. .debs ready to download) |
| 15:28.24 | mhall | jff8829: so when it comes to these systems you can use an older release like woody or you can talk to him cause he's the man with the master plan |
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| 15:28.30 | mhall | jff8829: another OS choice is netbs |
| 15:28.31 | mhall | jff8829: another OS choice is netbsd * |
| 15:28.40 | user__ | when im trying to apt-get remove gcj, it says its not installed |
| 15:28.51 | Amarande | heh, people actually use HURD? |
| 15:28.56 | jff8829 | mhall: Yes, I was considering something else, do you know if Slack can handle those older machines? |
| 15:28.57 | mhall | Amarande: no they don't |
| 15:28.57 | user__ | im uisng etch |
| 15:28.59 | tarzeau | jff8829: or OPENSTEP? |
| 15:29.02 | tarzeau | Amarande: of course |
| 15:29.03 | jff8829 | But netbsd would be interesting |
| 15:29.07 | tarzeau | Amarande: people also use debian gnu/kfreebsd |
| 15:29.09 | TBBle | user__: Use which to determine the actual binary which gcj runs, and use dpkg -S to determine what package it's in. |
| 15:29.13 | mhall | jff8829: also there's gentoo |
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| 15:29.17 | jff8829 | yeah |
| 15:29.20 | mhall | jff8829: but you better use the reference platform |
| 15:29.24 | mhall | jff8829: or distcc |
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| 15:29.30 | mhall | jff8829: or you'll really hate your life |
| 15:29.33 | vieira2 | user__: try apt-chache search gcj |
| 15:29.45 | kspath | tarzeau: what is that gnu/kfreebsd channel? |
| 15:29.48 | vieira2 | user__: probably the package name isn't gcj |
| 15:30.02 | mhall | jff8829: if you have a whole cluster of them it wouldn't be so bad, you could just compile up a rel every six months and call it good |
| 15:30.09 | jff8829 | heh |
| 15:30.10 | TBBle | vieira2: arm-elf like Nintendo DS? |
| 15:30.10 | mhall | jff8829: then tar it up and copy it around the LAN |
| 15:30.11 | tarzeau | kspath: #gnu-kbsd |
| 15:30.20 | user__ | vieira2, it is gcj and gcj-4.0 or something like that, i tryied to deinstall both, both not installed as system says |
| 15:30.24 | jff8829 | mhall: I'm going to be buying one SS5. |
| 15:30.30 | kspath | tarzeau: Thank you. |
| 15:30.32 | user__ | TBBle, dpkg -S did not find package |
| 15:30.32 | TBBle | user__: What'd dpkg -S say it was? |
| 15:30.33 | CGI979 | PLS HELP ME, Y X NOT UPLOAD |
| 15:30.36 | mhall | jff8829: if you're buying can't you go newer and get an ultra 10 |
| 15:30.37 | jff8829 | mhall: Maybe I'll just go with netBSD or something |
| 15:30.39 | TBBle | user__: Uh... Which binary was it? |
| 15:30.40 | tarzeau | !CONFUSE CGI979 |
| 15:30.41 | dpkg | No, what was my pants yesterday, CGI979? wellies of the people's republic of swaziland with extra cream |
| 15:30.44 | jff8829 | mhall: I'm getting it for $20 |
| 15:30.47 | mhall | jff8829: if you pay the shipping i'll send you a free one |
| 15:30.48 | user__ | TBBle, /usr/bin/java |
| 15:30.54 | jff8829 | mhall: It includes monitor |
| 15:31.02 | mhall | jff8829: ultra 10s i have got use VGA |
| 15:31.04 | jff8829 | mhall: Where do you live? |
| 15:31.10 | predius_ | urgh, are there problems with nvidia in sid? |
| 15:31.14 | mhall | jff8829: central california |
| 15:31.15 | vieira2 | TBBle: arm-elf like just arm-elf-gcc and arm-elf-ld. I use a custom hardware and I don't actually need a C library (I have my own). |
| 15:31.18 | TBBle | user__: That's going through alternatives. ls -l /usr/bin/java to see what the alternative link is (prolly /etc/alternatives/java) and then ls -l that to find the actual binary. |
| 15:31.19 | jff8829 | mhall: damn |
| 15:31.20 | tubaman | TBBle, I'm going to add some echos to that script to see if I can figure out where my domain line is going. ttyl |
| 15:31.20 | tarzeau | predius_: there are always problems with nvidia |
| 15:31.24 | mhall | jff8829: you? |
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| 15:31.29 | jff8829 | mhall: I'm in Rochester, NY |
| 15:31.30 | fsd | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 15:31.30 | fsd | Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 15:31.30 | fsd | Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04fc:5330 Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd |
| 15:31.31 | mhall | jff8829: back east i'm guessing |
| 15:31.33 | tarzeau | predius_: audio? graphics? network? |
| 15:31.34 | TBBle | tubaman: Good luck with that. |
| 15:31.36 | fsd | how do i install it ? |
| 15:31.39 | predius_ | tarzeau: graphics |
| 15:31.44 | fsd | its my digital camera |
| 15:31.50 | mhall | jff8829: yeah for 20 bux just buy it and see how it turns out |
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| 15:31.53 | tarzeau | predius_: nv or nvidia driver? x or not? |
| 15:32.00 | jff8829 | mhall: That's what I'm thinking |
| 15:32.03 | Amarande | predius_: any bugs with nvidia are likely to be nvidia's fault, rather than sid's |
| 15:32.13 | Amarande | nvidia has been known for glitchy drivers |
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| 15:32.18 | tijn | ghe |
| 15:32.19 | mhall | jff8829: if it sux0rs, i'll give you my email and you can let me know if you want a 10 |
| 15:32.21 | Amarande | like the infamous nForce IDE driver debacle on Windows |
| 15:32.34 | predius_ | tarzeau: xorg, nvidia |
| 15:32.36 | mhall | jff8829: debian-sparc is always looking for more users to justify our existence |
| 15:32.39 | jff8829 | mhall: What would shipping cost, do you think? |
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| 15:32.57 | mhall | jff8829: so welcome on board, and please install the popcon package so the devs will know we have more users |
| 15:33.02 | mhall | jff8829: let me look |
| 15:33.18 | vieira2 | TBBle: do you have any experience building the gnu toolchain on Debian? I'd just compile it, but would like to have dpkg handling the package for me |
| 15:33.44 | user__ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2006-01-28 18:09 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java -> ../../../../bin/gij-4.0 |
| 15:33.46 | CGI979 | :( |
| 15:33.48 | predius_ | tarzeau: probably not nvidias fault. |
| 15:33.49 | tarzeau | predius_: nvidia driver is non-free, it doesn't exist in sid |
| 15:33.56 | TBBle | vieira2: Not for a while, nope... The cross-compiler tools might help, but I forget what it's called. dpkg-cross depends on it, I think. |
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| 15:34.04 | tarzeau | predius_: thus it can not be a sid. or debian problem at all |
| 15:34.06 | predius_ | err, non-free |
| 15:34.18 | mhall | jff8829: have you got a postcode for me to punch into the calculator |
| 15:34.18 | streuner | tarzeau: heh |
| 15:34.22 | vieira2 | TBBle: thanks, I'll look forward to it |
| 15:34.29 | fsd | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 15:34.29 | fsd | Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 15:34.29 | fsd | Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04fc:5330 Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd |
| 15:34.29 | mhall | predius_: what's the problem with it again |
| 15:34.34 | fsd | how do i install it!!!! |
| 15:34.34 | TBBle | user__: dpkg -S /usr/bin/gij-4.0 then. |
| 15:34.34 | user__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:34.42 | mhall | !tell fsd about paste |
| 15:34.44 | mhall | !tell fsd about ep |
| 15:34.46 | mhall | !tell fsd about repeat |
| 15:34.48 | jff8829 | mhall: What are the specs on this Ultra 10, anyway? |
| 15:34.59 | fsd | geez u must be cool |
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| 15:35.06 | mhall | jff8829: 1x333 proc, 128M ram, 10G 7200rpm seagate |
| 15:35.07 | abrotman | !tell fsd about u |
| 15:35.12 | fsd | !tell mhall to eat a dick |
| 15:35.12 | predius_ | mhall: dual display, second works, nvidia doesnt. |
| 15:35.14 | TBBle | user__: dpkg -S says it's gcj-4.0, but apt claims it' |
| 15:35.16 | jff8829 | mhall: w00t |
| 15:35.17 | fsd | ;] |
| 15:35.17 | TBBle | s not installed? |
| 15:35.20 | mhall | jff8829: creator 3d + ati vga |
| 15:35.26 | kspath | !smite fsd |
| 15:35.31 | user__ | TBBle, thanks i finaly got rid of it! |
| 15:35.32 | mhall | jff8829: they used to be nodes in our CS dept lan |
| 15:35.33 | fsd | =[ |
| 15:35.43 | mhall | jff8829: until our users got lame and stupid and quit learning unix |
| 15:35.56 | TBBle | user__: Excellent. ^_^ |
| 15:36.00 | mhall | jff8829: i'm one of the new vanguard of angry discontent free software fascists |
| 15:36.04 | predius_ | it's probably the "No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found |
| 15:36.14 | predius_ | which is weird, because I do have the entry trhere. |
| 15:36.16 | jff8829 | mhall: I'm just wondering whether our CS department has any outdated suns around... we still have lots of Sun labs, but they're pretty new machines. |
| 15:36.29 | jff8829 | mhall: I bet they just give them all away to CS House |
| 15:36.29 | mhall | jff8829: well the old mofos had to go somewhere |
| 15:36.36 | mhall | jff8829: call the surplus dept. |
| 15:36.45 | mhall | jff8829: our surplus dept is sitting on assloads of old dells |
| 15:37.01 | vieira2 | argh, can anyone suggest another IRC client for X? (any other than GAIM) |
| 15:37.01 | mhall | jff8829: worse comes to worse if the shit hits the fan you got a high end sun trinitron screen for 20 bux |
| 15:37.15 | optraz | jm_ are you there? |
| 15:37.16 | mhall | jff8829: and you can sit on it until you get hold of a fresh sparc |
| 15:37.26 | jff8829 | mhall: Surplus dept... I could probably go to the IT office on this floor to find out where they are. |
| 15:37.32 | Amarande | vieira2: xchat |
| 15:37.39 | jff8829 | mhall: I already have two 20E20 monitors I got for free |
| 15:37.47 | mhall | jff8829: meanwhile, it's guaranteed that there's some kind of OS that will work, a decent copy of BSD minimum |
| 15:37.48 | jff8829 | mhall: Although I think one is of questionable quality |
| 15:37.55 | TBBle | vieira2: irssi-text in an xterm? |
| 15:37.59 | abrotman | jff8829: probably tossed in the dumpster .. |
| 15:38.02 | fsd | well |
| 15:38.03 | mhall | jff8829: that's what i love about .edu; free unlimited dumpsters :-) |
| 15:38.05 | fsd | anyyyyyyyyyyyyoneeeeeeeeee |
| 15:38.09 | fsd | gonna helppppppppppp |
| 15:38.10 | abrotman | !anyone |
| 15:38.11 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 15:38.19 | mhall | !tell fsd about sicco |
| 15:38.22 | mhall | !tell fsd about patience |
| 15:38.23 | Sonny | Hi, I have installed thunderbird, with the package "locale-es" (in spanish) but its still in english why= |
| 15:38.25 | Sonny | ? |
| 15:38.26 | fsd | dude |
| 15:38.26 | fsd | stfu |
| 15:38.31 | shingouz | oooo |
| 15:38.31 | jff8829 | mhall: The weird thing is that there is NEVER anything in the dumpsters |
| 15:38.32 | fsd | about the !tell |
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| 15:38.37 | vieira2 | thanks, Amarande and TBBle |
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| 15:38.47 | abrotman | i can't believe australian schools are so poor |
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| 15:38.59 | mhall | fsd: be more patience for christ's sake |
| 15:39.00 | bbls | hello. is there any way to reset console font to default VGA font? |
| 15:39.01 | kspath | TBBle: use irssi inside aterm if you can aterm -bg black -fg white -e irssi |
| 15:39.04 | fsd | k |
| 15:39.10 | priyank | hey, i want to install xcompmgr. but i cant find it using apt-cache search |
| 15:39.10 | mhall | fsd: wait around, think, read, ponder |
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| 15:39.18 | priyank | does anyone know whats the name of the package |
| 15:39.20 | mhall | fsd: or you'll never get any better with unix |
| 15:39.27 | predius_ | mhall: I think I found the problem. |
| 15:39.31 | mhall | jff8829: perfect; more room for you |
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| 15:39.35 | streuner | priyank: look in experimental |
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| 15:39.39 | fsd | uhh huh |
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| 15:39.40 | jff8829 | mhall: Huh? |
| 15:39.45 | streuner | priyank: use pdo |
| 15:39.45 | predius_ | according to the xorg log, my card is supported through legacy drivers. |
| 15:39.47 | mhall | predius_: sweet, explain what it was so we'll know next time |
| 15:39.47 | fsd | abrotman yeh i know aye its very pour |
| 15:39.50 | predius_ | weird, it worked before. |
| 15:39.50 | priyank | streuner: pdo ?? |
| 15:39.52 | jharrisonwk | anyone know of a player that can play video podcasts? |
| 15:39.54 | streuner | !pdo |
| 15:39.54 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/, or the machine that hosts http://packages.debian.org has been overloaded, a temporary replacement can be found at http://pdo.debian.net |
| 15:39.58 | mhall | jff8829: if nobody else uses it, you never run out of room for trash |
| 15:40.03 | Sonny | #thunderbird |
| 15:40.14 | mhall | jff8829: unlike here where everybody's caught on to using them so they are full |
| 15:40.15 | abrotman | priyank: /topic |
| 15:40.18 | jff8829 | mhall: Um, yeah |
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| 15:40.24 | priyank | streuner: its down |
| 15:40.27 | TBBle | kspath: But I get those colours from xterm already. |
| 15:40.27 | mhall | jff8829: you see, i live across the street from the school next to neighbors |
| 15:40.29 | streuner | priyank: see what abrotman told you |
| 15:40.42 | jff8829 | mhall: It's about a 10 minute walk from the res halls to the academic dumpsters |
| 15:40.47 | mhall | jff8829: they are evil hypocritical fucks who call the police on us if we don't move our cars every 72 hours |
| 15:40.52 | priyank | streuner: okay :D |
| 15:40.55 | abrotman | priyank: and the freaking website at packages.debian.org tells YOU where to go |
| 15:40.58 | kspath | TBBle: what are you looking for? aterm is smaller and lighter than xterm |
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| 15:41.12 | mhall | jff8829: but they still think it's OK to use our dumpsters and our .edu as a place to take walks and enjoy themselves |
| 15:41.22 | fsd | mhall .. |
| 15:41.22 | jff8829 | mhall: that sucks |
| 15:41.23 | priyank | abrotman: lol ok ok. |
| 15:41.26 | TBBle | kspath: Smaller and lighter? Hmm. I might give it a look... UTF-8 and widechar support? |
| 15:41.28 | Amarande | I'm still a bit puzzled as to why xchat 2.6 isn't even in sid yet last I checked |
| 15:41.32 | mhall | jff8829: even though they cost us hundreds on parking tickets and towing fees |
| 15:41.41 | streuner | priyank: besides, experimental packages only work for unstable/sid |
| 15:41.48 | kspath | TBBle: rxvt-unicode -bg black -fg white -e irssi |
| 15:41.53 | mhall | fsd: toughen up, göthe said what doesn't kill you makes you stronger |
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| 15:42.08 | streuner | priyank: if you use something else, just try to make a deb out of it by yourself |
| 15:42.24 | fsd | mhall well gothe been watchin to many stupid movies. |
| 15:42.29 | jff8829 | mhall: What does fsd want? |
| 15:42.35 | mhall | fsd: no, all the stupid movies copy him |
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| 15:42.47 | fsd | k |
| 15:42.49 | fsd | now help |
| 15:42.56 | mhall | jff8829: i'm not sure because he scrolls the channel with pastes and doesn't clearly state the problem |
| 15:42.58 | cahoot | fsd: try gphoto2 --auto-detect (if it's still about the camera) |
| 15:43.00 | kspath | TBBLe: if you are nearly blind you might prefer xterm since you can use mouse to change size |
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| 15:43.00 | priyank | streuner: ok. |
| 15:43.02 | mhall | !tell fsd about return |
| 15:43.06 | jff8829 | fsd: What do you want? |
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| 15:43.13 | fsd | my.. |
| 15:43.16 | fsd | digital |
| 15:43.17 | fsd | camera |
| 15:43.22 | mhall | jff8829: good thing to ask him |
| 15:43.31 | fsd | i cant isnt it but i can see it in $lsusb |
| 15:43.32 | mhall | fsd: ok, is it new? |
| 15:43.39 | fsd | yes mhall |
| 15:43.49 | priyank | wow. |
| 15:43.51 | mhall | fsd: if it's pretty new you can mount it as a USB hard drive and copy out your shit |
| 15:43.53 | priyank | no xcompmgr in debian |
| 15:43.54 | priyank | :( |
| 15:44.01 | jff8829 | fsd: http://gphoto.org/proj/gtkam/ |
| 15:44.04 | TBBle | kspath: I use my xterms full-screened with wmii. So no mouse usage. ^_^ |
| 15:44.04 | fsd | hsikrut@stars:~$ mount /dev/sda1 |
| 15:44.05 | fsd | mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 15:44.05 | fsd | hsikrut@stars:~$ |
| 15:44.08 | streuner | priyank: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 15:44.10 | fsd | it wont mount |
| 15:44.13 | mhall | priyank: you lie! |
| 15:44.16 | mhall | priyank: xcompmgr - X composition manager |
| 15:44.24 | mhall | fsd: dmesg | grep sd |
| 15:44.24 | Amarande | fsd: if it's not in fstab, you have to specify the filesystem type and mount point manually |
| 15:44.24 | priyank | mhall: huh? |
| 15:44.35 | mhall | fsd: it might have been named differently |
| 15:44.36 | priyank | mhall: here it doesnt |
| 15:44.45 | kspath | TBBle: I use my aterms with ion3 fullscreen so no need for mouse but it allows for dragging tabs to my other monitors. |
| 15:44.49 | mhall | fsd: additionally you need mount /dev/sda1 <some directory here> |
| 15:44.51 | fsd | k |
| 15:44.52 | fsd | sec |
| 15:44.55 | mhall | fsd: command is not complete as is |
| 15:44.59 | Amarande | mhall: wouldn't he be getting 'no such device' if the kernel didn't find it? |
| 15:45.02 | streuner | priyank: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 15:45.06 | priyank | streuner: $ dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500 |
| 15:45.06 | priyank | ii libc6 2.3.5-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data 500 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages |
| 15:45.18 | mhall | Amarande: i think it checks fstab first before kernel call |
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| 15:45.24 | mhall | Amarande: for efficiently and rationality reasons |
| 15:45.32 | streuner | priyank: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 15:45.36 | mhall | fsd: additionally you have got to mount as root |
| 15:45.39 | TBBle | kspath: Montiors? Luxury. I've got my printer printing my screen out every time I ^l |
| 15:45.45 | mhall | fsd: unless you have set it up to avoid that in fstab |
| 15:45.48 | priyank | streuner: okay |
| 15:45.52 | kspath | TBBle: scroll |
| 15:46.01 | kspath | TBBle: linefeed |
| 15:46.06 | fsd | mhall |
| 15:46.09 | fsd | i mounted it |
| 15:46.15 | fsd | and still didnt work |
| 15:46.21 | mhall | !didnt work |
| 15:46.25 | mhall | !didn't work |
| 15:46.26 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 15:46.30 | TBBle | kspath: Nah. I don't have that much paper. I just work from memory, and ^l when needed. |
| 15:46.38 | mhall | fsd: what did it do wrong |
| 15:46.49 | streuner | priyank: http://pdo.debian.net/experimental/x11/xcompmgr |
| 15:46.51 | kspath | TBBle: using that odd filesytem irc client? |
| 15:47.05 | fsd | root@stars:/home/hsikrut# mount /dev/sda1 |
| 15:47.05 | fsd | mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 15:47.05 | fsd | root@stars:/home/hsikrut# |
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| 15:47.31 | priyank | streuner: thanks :D |
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| 15:47.43 | abrotman | fsd: man mount ; man fstab |
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| 15:47.47 | shingouz | fsd: man mount tells you that you should use 'mount -t <fstype> <device> <mountpoint>' |
| 15:47.53 | mhall | fsd: that's not a complete god damn command |
| 15:47.57 | abrotman | shingouz: are you back from berlin? |
| 15:48.06 | mhall | fsd: please use mount /dev/sda1 /some/directory/here |
| 15:48.06 | fsd | yeh can u repeat that in english |
| 15:48.12 | kspath | TBBle: I tried wmii for a while and I can see why some people might like it but it is NOT for multi-head machines with xinerama. I promise you that. |
| 15:48.13 | fsd | i did |
| 15:48.14 | fsd | root@stars:/home/hsikrut# mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 |
| 15:48.14 | fsd | mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist |
| 15:48.15 | shingouz | berlin? what would i do in berlin abrotman? |
| 15:48.16 | abrotman | fsd: GO READ THE MAN PAGES |
| 15:48.16 | mhall | fsd: otherwise it does not know where to put the disk |
| 15:48.20 | abrotman | shingouz: with your gf |
| 15:48.23 | mhall | fsd: 07:48 < fsd> root@stars:/home/hsikrut# mount /dev/sda1 |
| 15:48.25 | shingouz | bangkok |
| 15:48.30 | mhall | fsd: that's not what you said |
| 15:48.34 | abrotman | shingouz: oh yeah .. that place :) |
| 15:48.41 | shingouz | abrotman: besides, fiancee now :) |
| 15:48.44 | abrotman | eep! |
| 15:48.49 | abrotman | shingouz: are you back in .fi ? |
| 15:48.50 | jff8829 | mhall: Well, thanks for the help, I'm off! |
| 15:48.54 | mhall | fsd: additionally if it did not find the device, dmesg | grep sd , and see if it got detected right by the kernel |
| 15:48.55 | fsd | mhall so now what? |
| 15:49.01 | predius_ | hmm |
| 15:49.02 | mhall | jff8829: yeah email me if you want the 10 later on |
| 15:49.03 | shingouz | abrotman: yes (and missing someone....) |
| 15:49.10 | predius_ | works with nv but not nvidia |
| 15:49.11 | abrotman | shingouz: when is she coming to visit? |
| 15:49.17 | mhall | jff8829: if you find the weight on google (i don't know it) |
| 15:49.18 | predius_ | but nv now the second head is dead. |
| 15:49.24 | fsd | mhall i typed that line and got nuffin |
| 15:49.28 | mhall | jff8829: ship it from postcode 95204 Stockton, CA, US |
| 15:49.36 | mhall | fsd: odd, then it wasn't detected |
| 15:49.43 | jff8829 | mhall: Okay, thanks |
| 15:49.49 | mhall | fsd: maybe try gphoto as root and see if gphoto can find it |
| 15:49.51 | fsd | lol |
| 15:49.55 | jff8829 | mhall: I'll look it up and contact you if I decide I want it. |
| 15:49.56 | fsd | dude |
| 15:49.58 | mhall | jff8829: somebody probably has it on a specs page |
| 15:50.00 | fsd | wait |
| 15:50.04 | abrotman | READ! |
| 15:50.23 | fsd | mhall >> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04fc:5330 Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd |
| 15:50.31 | shingouz | abrotman: working on it. visas etc take some time and we have "bigger" things on our mind at the moment... things involving words to the effect of "i do" |
| 15:50.40 | mhall | fsd: yeah but you have got to have the right driver available |
| 15:50.55 | abrotman | shingouz: would you like more peas? I DO! |
| 15:51.02 | fsd | mhall so.. now what.. |
| 15:51.04 | mhall | fsd: and it's possible whoever made the camera made it so it wouldn't appear as a USB storage disk like most new cameras |
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| 15:51.15 | fsd | uhh huh |
| 15:51.19 | shingouz | abrotman: when you get a little older you will understand what i mean :p |
| 15:51.21 | mhall | fsd: yeah gphoto is a good thing to try, maybe check their compatibility list |
| 15:51.28 | abrotman | shingouz: i'm older than you aren't i? |
| 15:51.33 | cahoot | fsd: try gphoto2 --auto-detect |
| 15:51.34 | mhall | fsd: beyond that you'd probably have to google for a couple of days |
| 15:51.39 | shingouz | abrotman: not sure, i have never asked |
| 15:51.48 | abrotman | shingouz: you're like .. 25? |
| 15:52.01 | shingouz | abrotman: bzzzzztttt... wrong answer |
| 15:52.01 | fsd | k |
| 15:52.05 | abrotman | shingouz: 45? |
| 15:52.08 | TBBle | kspath: Yeah. For multi-head, the author recommnds not xineramaing, but changing the lauch script to fire up an instance on each screen. |
| 15:52.12 | shingouz | abrotman: try 40 |
| 15:52.17 | abrotman | old fart |
| 15:52.28 | delire_z_ | abrotman: hardly old |
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| 15:52.30 | Sonny | does somebody know how can I change the language of thunderbird? |
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| 15:52.51 | shingouz | abrotman: thank you :p |
| 15:52.52 | mhall | Sonny: hold on a sec |
| 15:52.55 | fsd | cahoot nuffin. |
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| 15:52.58 | mhall | Sonny: let me look up something |
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| 15:53.18 | mhall | Sonny: what language |
| 15:53.30 | mhall | Sonny: spanish i'm guessing from your /whois |
| 15:53.36 | mhall | Sonny: maybe portuguese |
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| 15:53.44 | cahoot | fsd: tough luck |
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| 15:54.24 | shingouz | abrotman: out of curiosity, how old have you managed to get |
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| 15:54.37 | mhall | Sonny: you need mozilla-thunderbird-locale-es mozilla-thunderbird-locale-pt-br |
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| 15:55.09 | fsd | mhall |
| 15:55.25 | Sonny | mhall, I have installed mozilla-thnderbird-locale-es, it's necessary the "br" for spanish? |
| 15:55.37 | mhall | Sonny: no i wasn't sure if you needed es or pt |
| 15:55.38 | abrotman | shingouz: i'll be 30 this year |
| 15:55.53 | mhall | Sonny: pt comes in european and brazilian because the two use very different terms, etc. |
| 15:55.55 | Sonny | mhall, spanish, but it's still in english |
| 15:56.00 | mhall | Sonny: right, i understand |
| 15:56.06 | shingouz | heh. and he thought he would be older than i am... |
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| 15:56.30 | Sonny | mhall, what could be happening, if I installed the locale-es |
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| 15:56.40 | mhall | Sonny: you need to set LANG variable to es_ES.UTF-8 |
| 15:56.44 | Sonny | I'm supposed it to be in spanish now |
| 15:56.48 | tzfardea | hey i've installed debian and when i can't hear sounds, what do i need to do? |
| 15:56.49 | mhall | Sonny: NO! |
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| 15:56.56 | tzfardea | *and i can |
| 15:56.58 | tzfardea | 't |
| 15:57.02 | mhall | Sonny: if you install the locale, it's just *available* |
| 15:57.11 | mhall | Sonny: you have to also set if you want to *use* it |
| 15:57.15 | Xteven | anyone familiar with partman-auto + preseed in the debian installer ? |
| 15:57.25 | mhall | Sonny: this is because different users will want different settings in different apps |
| 15:57.40 | mhall | Sonny: so, you need to try LANG=es_ES thunderbird |
| 15:57.41 | fsd | mhall my cam >> DIGIGR8 DV182 Digital Video Camera |
| 15:57.53 | mhall | fsd: you didn't say it was a video camera |
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| 15:57.59 | fsd | dude |
| 15:58.01 | mhall | fsd: that's mos. def. *not* the same shit |
| 15:58.06 | fsd | i said digital |
| 15:58.08 | abrotman | shingouz: sorry .. i can't see all your wrinkles on irc |
| 15:58.20 | mhall | fsd: digital means still pictures in electronic form |
| 15:58.22 | mhall | fsd: not video |
| 15:58.32 | fsd | who cares so what do i do now |
| 15:58.35 | mhall | Sonny: also LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 if you have unicode |
| 15:58.37 | Sonny | mhall, ok I understand, how can I change the LANG for thunderbir, edit some file? |
| 15:58.48 | mhall | fsd: i don't know cause i never set one up, it's a lot harder |
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| 15:58.54 | shingouz | abrotman: one of the drawbacks of irc |
| 15:58.55 | mhall | Sonny: it's an environment variable |
| 15:59.01 | abrotman | heh |
| 15:59.13 | mhall | Sonny: so set it up in your shell startup file |
| 15:59.21 | mhall | Sonny: or like i said just now on a command line |
| 15:59.39 | Sonny | mhall, reconfigure-locales ? |
| 15:59.40 | mhall | Sonny: also you are gonna probably need locales package and dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 16:00.03 | mhall | Sonny: have you got spanish keyboard? |
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| 16:01.06 | Sonny | mhall, yes latin american keyboard, it is working fine |
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| 16:02.27 | Sonny | mhall, I did dpkg-reconfigure locales and set the default locale es_ES , but it is still in english |
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| 16:02.49 | mhall | Sonny: log out and back in |
| 16:02.55 | Sonny | ok |
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| 16:03.01 | mhall | Sonny: otherwise the right variables don't get reset |
| 16:03.07 | Sonny | ok |
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| 16:03.30 | mhall | fucking users expect even the craziest settings change to be instant |
| 16:03.39 | mhall | it wouldn't be in windows, why should it be in unix |
| 16:03.48 | mhall | zOMGWTFBBQ! |
| 16:05.06 | Daveman | hey abrotman |
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| 16:05.16 | Teklap | Wow |
| 16:05.20 | myren | anyone know a tool which will hide a window from my gnome panel? |
| 16:05.23 | Teklap | This is getting real annoying |
| 16:05.27 | optraz | how can i stop mta from loading each time debian boot up? |
| 16:05.39 | Teklap | I'm trying to setup software RAId |
| 16:05.40 | myren | optraz: i just chmod -x the program in /etc/init.d |
| 16:05.51 | Teklap | I'm at the sync step where you run mkraid |
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| 16:06.00 | Teklap | Only there's no mkraid command |
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| 16:06.06 | Teklap | Annyone know why? |
| 16:06.07 | optraz | mmmm |
| 16:06.09 | myren | optraz: i'm sure thats not how you're supposed to do it, but its the only way i could find that doesnt get changed when the program updates |
| 16:06.12 | TBBle | optraz: Remove it? Break the config file? Modify the init.d script? use update-rc.d to disable it... Plenty of options. |
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| 16:06.21 | myren | Teklap: use mdadm instead? *shrug* |
| 16:06.25 | optraz | myren, i dont think that is a good idea |
| 16:06.36 | Teklap | Hmm |
| 16:06.44 | myren | optraz: sure its not, but it'll work |
| 16:06.48 | LSorensen | Teklap: mdadm is by far the best tool to manade software md raid with |
| 16:07.06 | myren | "best" is a relative word... in this case it means "least worse" |
| 16:07.13 | Teklap | I'm following this guide: |
| 16:07.14 | Teklap | http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO-5.html |
| 16:07.19 | optraz | TBBle, how/where to modify init.d script ? |
| 16:07.22 | Teklap | Tells me to get mdadm |
| 16:07.46 | Teklap | Before it gets to the mdadm step it tells me to use mkraid.. |
| 16:07.48 | LSorensen | Teklap: that's a lot out of date |
| 16:08.04 | LSorensen | Teklap: mdadm creates the raid too |
| 16:08.12 | LSorensen | mdadm --create .... |
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| 16:08.47 | TBBle | optraz: /etc/init.d/{whatever mta it is} and put an 'exit 1' at the top. Prolly the worst option of the ones I suggested, mind you. |
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| 16:10.21 | optraz | thanks TBBle myren |
| 16:10.53 | TBBle | optraz: No wuckers. |
| 16:10.59 | Daveman | Hi LSorensen |
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| 16:13.24 | abrotman | hi Daveman |
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| 16:15.01 | Sonny | mhall, still english |
| 16:15.13 | mhall | Sonny: /exec -o echo $LANG |
| 16:15.30 | Daveman | Hi |
| 16:15.32 | TBBle | 'locale' will tell you what locale settings you have. |
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| 16:16.59 | Sonny | mhall, es_ES |
| 16:17.09 | mhall | Sonny: weird |
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| 16:17.36 | mhall | Sonny: can you run it from a shell? also please ask in spanish channel |
| 16:17.38 | mhall | !spanish |
| 16:17.38 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 16:17.48 | mhall | Sonny: #debian-es might know some other step i missed |
| 16:17.59 | mhall | Sonny: i'm just reciting the ones that got me german openoffice |
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| 16:18.08 | Sonny | mhall, I chose es_ES ISO-8859-1 is that ok? |
| 16:18.52 | myren | anyone know of a program which'll hide a program from the tasklist/panel/alt-tab? |
| 16:19.00 | mhall | Sonny: yeah that's reasonable choice |
| 16:19.14 | mhall | Sonny: this is why i'm surprised, it sounds like you have got what you need |
| 16:19.14 | optraz | anyway here has experience on how to setup wireless card (intel centrino laptop) ? |
| 16:19.20 | mhall | myren: are you from pittsburgh? |
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| 16:19.51 | myren | why becausei obnixiously repeat myself? no, no i'm not. :/ |
| 16:20.38 | mhall | myren: no, from the nickname, hehe |
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| 16:21.07 | mhall | the best steelers announcer is a well loved figure with a similar name |
| 16:21.10 | nisc | optraz: be more specific |
| 16:21.10 | myren | i'm unaware of the reference? i just made up the name years ago on the spot |
| 16:21.18 | myren | cool |
| 16:21.21 | nisc | optraz: what's your question? |
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| 16:21.29 | myren | probably shouldnt have rooted for the hawks then |
| 16:21.45 | optraz | nisc, sorry i didnt ask my question correctly. let me rephrase |
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| 16:22.14 | optraz | nisc, i just installed debian etch and i dont know HOW to install the driver/application/software for my network card. |
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| 16:22.36 | mhall | myren: lol |
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| 16:22.43 | rohan | hi all... does someone provide vim 7.x packages for debian sid ? (unstable) |
| 16:22.47 | mhall | myren: myron cope was his name, he was a real crazy guy |
| 16:23.12 | rohan | i specifically vim7 because i want to use this -- http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0125672/icomplete/ |
| 16:23.43 | bartden | hi, i just configured my soudn (alsa on sid), runned alsaconf, set my mixer right, all worked well , so i did alsactl store, but when i reboot my sound wont work anymore, so each time i have to do a alsaconf again, any suggestions ? |
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| 16:24.26 | nisc | optraz: which card do you have? ipw2100 or 2200 or even something completely different? |
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| 16:25.12 | optraz | ipw2100 |
| 16:25.30 | nisc | http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net .. but sf.netse |
| 16:25.35 | nisc | but sf.net seems to be down atm |
| 16:25.42 | optraz | kernel revision 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 16:25.52 | myren | yoi! |
| 16:26.14 | myren | DRINK |
| 16:26.30 | optraz | nisc, how do i install ipw2100??? do you have a link showing how to install the card from the bottom till it running ? |
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| 16:26.57 | nisc | some tutorials should be linked from the ipw page |
| 16:27.14 | xoz | have you noticed a bug in 2.6.15 kernel with yaird? |
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| 16:28.25 | nisc | optraz: but it works pretty well, at least my ipw2100 runs fine with wpa |
| 16:28.52 | dulles | how does a package get its menu items in KDE/Gnome? I have 3rd party software I want in those menus, and the update-menus only adds apps to the "Debian" subtree |
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| 16:29.24 | optraz | nisc, how do u setup yoru ipw2100? are you follow URL you got ? can u give me the URL ? |
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| 16:32.06 | nisc | optraz: well the ipw tarball comes with a readme. and instructions on how to use wpa with wpa_supplicant can be found on the wpa_supplicant page (http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/) |
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| 16:32.45 | gta | tease |
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| 16:35.48 | bobw | can someone tell me the linux command that will tell me my connection speed for my NIC card |
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| 16:36.05 | vieira2 | nice, mass K-line! |
| 16:36.12 | jbroome | destroy! |
| 16:36.17 | bier | hey all, i just had to reinstall my debian system because one of my hard disk drives crashed. now i have a white mouse cursor in xorg, how can i get the black one back? ;-) |
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| 16:37.03 | hyksos | bier :open gimp and paint it black |
| 16:37.15 | bier | ( i am using xfce4 as windowmanager, but i can't find something to configure the mouse cursor in the settings) |
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| 16:37.34 | bier | very funny ;) |
| 16:37.58 | dna_ | !java |
| 16:38.12 | dna_ | WHERE IS THis dpkg idiot bot |
| 16:38.20 | dpkg | somebody said java was Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
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| 16:38.49 | lpb-oberon | :) |
| 16:39.10 | bier | and i want my mouse cursor to turn black! :P |
| 16:39.16 | lpb-oberon | dna_: install the javapackage |
| 16:39.23 | lpb-oberon | and use jpgk |
| 16:40.01 | hyksos | bier :perhaps with xsetroot or xset |
| 16:40.22 | vieira2 | hyksos: xsetroot won't be of any help, I guess |
| 16:40.24 | cyzie | anyone try this before? <laptop> -- - - - - <wireless access point>----------------<debian> where debian allocated IP address (DHCP) to laptop based on MAC address in laptop ? the wireless access point merely function as middle man from wire medium to wireless medium |
| 16:40.29 | resiak | bier: update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme |
| 16:40.49 | bier | thanks! |
| 16:40.55 | vieira2 | bier: do an apt-cache search xfce to see if you are missing any xfce configuration app |
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| 16:40.58 | dna_ | lpb-oberon, cannot find this javapackage :( |
| 16:41.03 | vieira2 | like xfce-goodies or something |
| 16:41.21 | vieira2 | I use Gnome, so I don't know the package names :) |
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| 16:42.26 | bier | i think resiak was right. it was set to some Industrial theme... |
| 16:42.28 | dna_ | what type of thing do I need to add to my source.list to get javapackage |
| 16:42.35 | resiak | bier: resiak _is_ right |
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| 16:42.54 | bier | ok, you are ;-) |
| 16:42.58 | bier | thank you |
| 16:43.03 | vieira2 | :-D |
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| 16:43.48 | vieira2 | just one caveat: alternatives system is global, so it would affect all users on all window managers (ideally), unless the user X have custom settings |
| 16:44.02 | thingfish | !tell dna_ about java-package |
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| 16:44.07 | vieira2 | user X mening johndoe or any other unaffected user |
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| 16:45.19 | lpb-oberon | root@ia32:/$ apt-file search java-package |
| 16:45.19 | lpb-oberon | java-package: usr/share/doc/java-package/README.Debian |
| 16:45.19 | lpb-oberon | java-package: usr/share/doc/java-package/SUPPORTED |
| 16:45.19 | lpb-oberon | java-package: usr/share/doc/java-package/changelog.gz |
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| 16:45.39 | lpb-oberon | dna_: it is there:) |
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| 16:47.46 | dulles | how does a package get its menu items in KDE/Gnome? I have 3rd party software I want in those menus, and the update-menus only adds apps to the "Debian" subtree |
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| 16:48.17 | dna_ | lpb-oberon, I kept typing javapackage |
| 16:48.21 | dna_ | not java-package |
| 16:48.30 | delire | dulles: there's probably a menu editor whereby you can manually assign items to contexts. |
| 16:48.34 | vieira2 | dulles: you mean globally or just for a specific user? |
| 16:48.42 | bobw | !java |
| 16:48.42 | dpkg | it has been said that java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 16:49.33 | dna_ | !install java |
| 16:49.33 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
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| 16:52.21 | elno | this must be a stupid question, what command to use to setup date time ? |
| 16:52.54 | bbrazil | elno: tzconfig, date, hwclock |
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| 16:53.29 | vieira2 | elno: $ date -s <date> |
| 16:53.29 | vieira2 | and then |
| 16:53.29 | vieira2 | $date -s <time> |
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| 16:53.31 | disposable_ | dna_: what do you need? jre or sdk? i can send you a .deb |
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| 16:54.05 | elno | ehe... what date is today? |
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| 16:54.38 | vieira2 | hahaha |
| 16:54.48 | vieira2 | elno: 10/Feb in Brasil |
| 16:54.48 | elno | !date |
| 16:54.48 | dpkg | The current date is 2006.02.10 (UTC of course, this is *NIX) |
| 16:55.13 | ArtVandalae | I want to install mldonkey-server from unstable with the least amount of dependencies taken from stable. Is there a "correct" way to doing this. I don't want to edit my apt sources list, install, and change them back |
| 16:55.20 | ArtVandalae | *unstable |
| 16:55.48 | vieira2 | disposable_: can you? or are there some licence restrictions on such redistribution? |
| 16:55.54 | vieira2 | ;-) |
| 16:56.00 | elno | thank you |
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| 16:56.28 | vieira2 | ArtVandalae: you will have to change your sources and set up Apt-Pinning |
| 16:56.58 | vieira2 | ArtVandalae: see http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Apt-Pinning_on_Debian |
| 16:57.07 | ArtVandalae | Cheers |
| 16:57.11 | myren | i'm behind a nat... whats the best way to see my current real ip address? |
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| 16:57.37 | gcbirzan | myren: whatismyip.org? :-) |
| 16:57.46 | myren | groovy |
| 16:58.16 | vieira2 | after the setup issue $ aptitude install <package>/unstable ... it will install the package from unstable trying to solve dependencies from stable or (if impossible) testing/unstable |
| 16:58.34 | Teklap | After you make a raid array.. shouldn't you be able to see the array after reboot? |
| 16:58.46 | Teklap | I can check the status after the array is made.. but after reboot it's like.. not listed |
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| 17:00.15 | quuesstionnerr | How we set the time in the cli ? |
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| 17:00.52 | vieira2 | quuesstionnerr: date -s <time> |
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| 17:01.49 | quuesstionnerr | vieira2: thx, the <time> in wish format it must ? Can you give an example please ;-) |
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| 17:02.28 | quuesstionnerr | vieira2: He always say me 'invalid date', so the format i set is not correct |
| 17:02.34 | cusco | a quick question... /proc/uptime says 2950688.03 2929945.86 |
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| 17:02.46 | cusco | how do I translate this into decimal values? |
| 17:02.49 | cusco | or.. |
| 17:02.51 | cusco | whatever |
| 17:02.54 | vieira2 | quuesstionnerr: I guess localtime is enough. If you were on Brasil, west time, it would be `date -s 15:05:32` |
| 17:02.56 | cusco | that I can measeure |
| 17:02.57 | cahoot | run uptime |
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| 17:03.03 | quuesstionnerr | I type 'date -s 02101759' |
| 17:03.04 | cusco | cahoot: instead of that.. how can I do it? |
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| 17:03.09 | quuesstionnerr | vieira2: hhhmmm |
| 17:03.10 | cusco | oh |
| 17:03.40 | cusco | invalid date |
| 17:03.45 | vieira2 | quuesstionnerr: what kind of time is that? seconds since the epoch? |
| 17:03.50 | cusco | oops |
| 17:03.57 | Danamania | one after the other. just because it's easy to remember |
| 17:04.08 | Danamania | date figures out what to set from those |
| 17:04.31 | quuesstionnerr | vieira2: MMDDhhmm |
| 17:04.50 | quuesstionnerr | vieira2: thx its solved and the time are now correct :-) |
| 17:05.06 | vieira2 | quuesstionnerr: I see... you are a developer, right? ;-) |
| 17:05.20 | quuesstionnerr | Danamania: ;-) |
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| 17:06.39 | jcdecode | hi there, how to change the order of modprobing kernel modules |
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| 17:06.46 | quuesstionnerr | vieira2: A passion to it yes, official not ;-) |
| 17:06.50 | Usiu | Plz Help problemw with pbuilder http://rafb.net/paste/results/da6xn684.html |
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| 17:07.09 | quuesstionnerr | vieira2: I hope there comes changes in it :-) |
| 17:07.12 | jcdecode | i got 2 soundcards , and it changed the order after a kernel upgrade |
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| 17:07.42 | vieira2 | quuesstionnerr: You kinda have the spirit :D |
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| 17:08.01 | quuesstionnerr | vieira2: :D |
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| 17:09.32 | Teklap | Guys |
| 17:09.38 | Teklap | After I setup an array with mdadm |
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| 17:09.44 | Teklap | I see the array created.. |
| 17:09.47 | Teklap | After reboot it's gone |
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| 17:11.15 | cam | hi, i'm having some pblm with postfix : I got this errors : postdrop: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/452696.17627: Permission denied ... which is looping forever, some permissions : drwx-wx--- 2 postfix postdrop 1024 Feb 10 12:25 maildrop | drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 1024 Feb 9 11:58 postfix | -r-xr-xr-x 1 root postdrop 8736 Jan 28 16:38 /usr/sbin/postdrop | 1000 17627 0.0 0.5 4552 1504 pts/2 S 18:05 0:00 /u |
| 17:11.16 | cam | sr/sbin/postdrop -r ... what's going on ??? |
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| 17:11.38 | elno | !tell elno about ode |
| 17:11.46 | azeem | elno: please /msg the bot |
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| 17:11.55 | elno | oh ok |
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| 17:12.40 | Teklap | Can someoen help me with my software RAID setup? |
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| 17:13.04 | elno | any package about ODE? |
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| 17:13.06 | vieira2 | Teklap: I cannot. |
| 17:13.09 | Teklap | k |
| 17:13.10 | esher | hi all |
| 17:13.52 | esher | ive like to patch my kernel to disallow users to do "ps aux" and some other thinhs. could grsecurity do this for me, or ive better use another patch ? anyone knows some good security patches ? |
| 17:13.53 | esher | thanx |
| 17:14.06 | Teklap | Oh well..bbs |
| 17:14.07 | Teklap | out |
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| 17:15.53 | user__ | hi, what do i need to install to have mkfs.vfat command? |
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| 17:16.36 | cahoot | dosfstools |
| 17:17.08 | user__ | ok, thanks |
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| 17:19.25 | xoz | have you encountered problem booting 2.6.15 kernel? |
| 17:19.40 | shingouz | no |
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| 17:21.37 | predius_ | is there a reason to get Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". when using nv drivers? |
| 17:21.51 | balony | Is it possible to install debian without any cdrom or floppydrive directly from a windows xp? |
| 17:22.26 | azeem | balony: you can install it via network or USB stick |
| 17:22.30 | shingouz | balony: maybe but that might be tricky. how about booting off a usb stic? |
| 17:22.33 | shingouz | stick even |
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| 17:22.58 | balony | azeem: but I would have to boot on a floppy to install off network? |
| 17:23.10 | shingouz | or cd or usb |
| 17:23.16 | balony | shingouz: hmm. if my bois supports usb stick booting? |
| 17:23.21 | balony | don't have cdrom :D |
| 17:23.27 | vieira2 | predius_: yes, nv doesn't provide GLX |
| 17:23.28 | balony | bios even |
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| 17:23.34 | shingouz | or off the network. network boots are also supported |
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| 17:23.56 | vieira2 | predius_: do you have any recente (past TNT2) nVidia card? |
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| 17:24.28 | shingouz | balony: DVD? :p |
| 17:24.42 | creature | So, I've recently done an upgrade and now it seems like I'm having some arts problems. Lots of sound-related things complain "can't create mcop directory"; mpg123 and mpg321 both refuse to work, and gaim crashes whenever it tries to play a sound. How can I fix this? |
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| 17:24.56 | predius_ | vieira2: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] |
| 17:25.02 | balony | shingouz: I think memory stick has to be the way to go |
| 17:25.03 | TBC_Lyon | Hello, everybody... |
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| 17:25.28 | shingouz | !tell balony about chroot install |
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| 17:25.50 | vieira2 | predius_: is it supported by that the Detonator series of drivers? (that Unified Driver Architecture, I guess) |
| 17:25.52 | TBC_Lyon | I have a problem... I set a RAID1 at installation... I'm unable to boot my machine now. Grub tell me "15: File not found"... Lilo stopped after writing "LIL"... What could I try ? |
| 17:25.53 | AlienX | is there any way to edit a file using vi in single user mode? I'm trying to modify my xorg.conf file but it tells me that the file is read-only and i can't seem to override that |
| 17:26.11 | predius_ | vieira2: ah? that the Detonator? |
| 17:26.17 | TBC_Lyon | AlienX > type :wq! if you are root to save it and force. |
| 17:26.33 | AlienX | TBC_Lyon, tried that but for some reason it's still not doing it |
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| 17:26.46 | balony | shingouz: that would work if I had unix here. But I only have windows :) |
| 17:26.47 | vieira2 | predius_: look at http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Debian_NVIDIA_proprietary_display_driver_installation |
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| 17:27.08 | vieira2 | predius_: that would give you accelerated OpenGL (including GLX) |
| 17:27.15 | AlienX | TBC_Lyon, gives me the error "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" E212: Can't Open file for writing |
| 17:27.15 | predius_ | vieira2: I have the drivers installed. |
| 17:27.22 | predius_ | modprobe nvidia works |
| 17:27.37 | predius_ | but when I start X, I just one head starting up. |
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| 17:27.47 | predius_ | (dual head, one is nvidia, the other is not) |
| 17:27.56 | vieira2 | predius_: then you should # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and se your driver to 'nvidia' instead of nv. |
| 17:28.02 | TBC_Lyon | AlienX> lsof /etc/X11/xorg.conf and kill everything :D |
| 17:28.04 | vieira2 | s/se/set |
| 17:28.15 | predius_ | vieira2: using xorg |
| 17:28.17 | AlienX | TBC_Lyon, lol thought has crossed my mind |
| 17:28.27 | shingouz | balony: boot the box to linux off the usb, then install |
| 17:28.43 | vieira2 | predius_: reconfigure XOrg, then ;-) |
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| 17:29.25 | kjdis | I am trying to install Debian using testing netinst, getting a problem I've never seen before, it simply keeps failing on "Select and Install Software", anyone know why that might happen? Internet connection is up, it gets the "release file" properly so it is contacting the server, I tried downloading the netinst ISO again but same problem |
| 17:29.31 | vieira2 | predius_: the bottomline is: 'nv' X "driver" does not support GLX, 'nvidia' does |
| 17:29.34 | predius_ | vieira2: I checked the Xorg logs, and nvidia module said it (the module) was xfree |
| 17:29.48 | AlienX | TBC_Lyon, for some odd reason single user mode is read-only on my system |
| 17:30.11 | TBC_Lyon | mount / -oremount,rw ? |
| 17:30.24 | TBC_Lyon | AlienX> mount / -oremount,rw ? |
| 17:30.29 | vieira2 | predius_: then I'm afraid I can't help you. I have only configured it for XFree and I've never used XOrg (I run stable). |
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| 17:30.51 | NOthsouth | what is the name of mouse input with 9 pins(holes) |
| 17:30.54 | jetscreamer | -o remount |
| 17:31.03 | jetscreamer | serial |
| 17:31.07 | TBC_Lyon | Did someone tried to install Debian with a soft RAID1 ? I does not boot :'( |
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| 17:31.23 | jetscreamer | serial mouse |
| 17:31.46 | Sonny | can somebody send me the "krusaders" icon? |
| 17:32.03 | AlienX | TBC_Lyon, nope, nvidia is causing the issue that the system hangs when it tries init5 and i tried init 3 to no avail |
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| 17:32.25 | cam | i have a pblm using crontab , when i do : crontab -e or crontab -l ... it's saying : crontabs/cam: Permission denied ; any idea? (drwx-wx--T 2 root crontab 1024 Feb 10 17:35 crontabs) |
| 17:32.56 | NOthsouth | jetscreamer, yeh thx, i need to configure this mouse , but I can`t configuring via xorgcfg |
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| 17:33.20 | jetscreamer | NOthsouth: did you check the x.org docs? |
| 17:33.20 | TBC_Lyon | AlienX> And mount / -oremount,rw does not work at all ? |
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| 17:33.31 | jetscreamer | -o remount |
| 17:33.34 | jetscreamer | ^^ |
| 17:33.48 | TBC_Lyon | jetscreamer> both syntaxes should work ;) |
| 17:33.58 | AlienX | TBC_Lyon, nope, told me to specify file system so i specified ext3 and it got mad at me |
| 17:34.01 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 17:34.13 | jetscreamer | if you say so ... |
| 17:35.01 | Jin^eLD | hi :) following question: let's assume I have some tiny linux distro running and I can intsall apt and dpkg there; is it somehow possible to install debian over it, without booting from an install medium? |
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| 17:36.32 | shingouz | !tell Jin^eLD about chroot install |
| 17:36.37 | AlienX | TBC_Lyon, mount -o remount, rw / seems to have worked |
| 17:36.53 | Jin^eLD | thanks |
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| 17:37.34 | TBC_Lyon | Jin^eLD> With a chroot, it should be possible... |
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| 17:37.48 | jetscreamer | NOthsouth: http://xfree86.org/current/mouse.html maybe |
| 17:38.03 | jetscreamer | !debtakeover |
| 17:38.03 | dpkg | Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin. |
| 17:38.16 | Sonny | Which one is better? Thunderbird or Evolution? |
| 17:38.34 | Jin^eLD | I just got the links from shingouz,looking at it now, thanks again :) |
| 17:38.34 | jetscreamer | evo is more outlook-ish i believe |
| 17:38.38 | jetscreamer | aka bloated |
| 17:39.03 | Sonny | I never used outlook |
| 17:39.20 | Sonny | I mean about functionalities? |
| 17:39.35 | jetscreamer | ah they; both function... all i can really say |
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| 17:40.42 | jetscreamer | evo has a calender and stuff |
| 17:41.01 | jetscreamer | evo is like outlook and thunderbird is more like outlook express i 'think' |
| 17:41.47 | delire | udev and ifplugd seem to hate each other (no, hotplug-net init scripts aren't the culprit). what is the name given to the proposed fancy replacement for network automagical configuration? |
| 17:42.12 | delire | udev is a POS |
| 17:42.23 | delire | should roll back to devfs. |
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| 17:43.40 | vieira2 | delire: POS = Poin Of Sale?! |
| 17:43.45 | vieira2 | Point* |
| 17:43.50 | delire | jetscreamer: my network intefaces have been waltzing around ever since i followed debian's blind march into the foul forests of udev. eth1 does the do-se-do with eth2 every time i reboot. |
| 17:43.54 | delire | vieira2: no, the opposite |
| 17:44.19 | nprice | somehow my root login shell has been changed to /bin/false and sudo is not installed, what can I do? |
| 17:44.20 | delire | vieira2: Porn of Satan, (formally Piece of Sh*t) |
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| 17:44.29 | vieira2 | hahahaha |
| 17:44.53 | vieira2 | nprice: even if sudo were installed, it won't help |
| 17:45.07 | jetscreamer | delire: all i know is once, i installed, rebooted, the damn nic didn't work, there was some weird hotplug script stuff in /etc/network/interfaces or so, i changed it back to 'normal' it worked, i --purged udev |
| 17:45.09 | nprice | why couldn't i just "sudo vi /etc/passwd" |
| 17:45.10 | TBC_Lyon | nprice> Boot on rescue disk... mount your /etc partition... and modify /etc/passwd ;) |
| 17:45.12 | honschu | Hi, what is a good, stable and more or less easy to setup "Disk encryption software" ? |
| 17:45.15 | vieira2 | nprice: can you access your filesystem through another OS? |
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| 17:45.42 | nprice | no i cannot |
| 17:45.55 | nprice | i have the damn root password and i still can't do anything |
| 17:45.56 | nprice | lol |
| 17:46.00 | TBC_Lyon | So reboot on a knoppix (knoppix 2) ;) |
| 17:46.00 | delire | nprice: i would chroot in |
| 17:46.39 | nprice | how can i do that? |
| 17:47.08 | TBC_Lyon | nprice> Download knoppix CD... burn it :) Put the CD in your CD-reader :p And boot on it :D |
| 17:47.15 | nprice | it's a remote machine |
| 17:47.16 | markw | nprice: do the knoppix thing. |
| 17:47.22 | markw | nprice: got a car? |
| 17:47.27 | delire | nprice: boot up with knoppix. find the partition with 'fdisk -l', become root and 'chroot /dev/<yourpartition> |
| 17:47.45 | nprice | it's a box about 6000 miles from me |
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| 17:47.51 | delire | nprice: or yes, just edit the file from inside knoppix.. |
| 17:47.54 | TBC_Lyon | nprice> What a pity :p |
| 17:47.55 | delire | nprice: ouch.. |
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| 17:48.01 | TBC_Lyon | What rights on /etc/crontab ? :) |
| 17:48.06 | markw | nprice: got an airplane then? :) |
| 17:48.10 | TBC_Lyon | nprice> Which rights on /etc/crontab ? |
| 17:48.14 | nprice | i could set up a net boot environment from another machine i guess |
| 17:48.33 | markw | nprice: you'll need someone at the other end. |
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| 17:48.45 | john_ | X_x |
| 17:48.45 | nprice | i have an idea |
| 17:48.53 | nprice | i could set up another machine and net boot from it |
| 17:48.56 | john_ | Whats the command to configure Xserver? |
| 17:49.13 | azeem | john_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 17:49.13 | kjdis | Ok I figured out how to enable the logs for my install, the pkgs are untrusted and it's failing at the apt prompt, how do I workaround that? |
| 17:49.49 | vieira2 | nprice: can you do that without root priviledges? |
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| 17:50.15 | nprice | yeah it tries to pxe at boot |
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| 17:50.26 | markw | vieira2: yes, he can control booting from the other machine. |
| 17:50.41 | nprice | i can forcibly hard reset the machine |
| 17:50.46 | nprice | so it's a non-issue |
| 17:50.52 | nprice | thanks for the help |
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| 17:51.13 | live | hello |
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| 17:51.51 | AM|R | hi |
| 17:52.03 | AM|R | why this appear: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out |
| 17:53.50 | live | i've got debian on my xbox but it uses al space on my f: partition witch prg do i need to partition it back to xbox format |
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| 17:54.06 | john_ | awesome it works |
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| 17:54.12 | AM|R | ? |
| 17:54.15 | AM|R | why this appear: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out |
| 17:54.24 | live | help |
| 17:54.27 | sanmarcos | anybody having a problem with the latest flashplayer plugin crashing with the latest firefox/xorg? |
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| 17:54.31 | john_ | One more stupid question, i've only used damn small linux before... |
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| 17:55.04 | john_ | this is my first Debain install, but how to i make a user account able to do the "sudo" command |
| 17:55.22 | markw | john_: add them to /etc/sudoers |
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| 17:55.35 | ft | john_: with visudo |
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| 17:55.55 | lepton | john_: become root, run visudo |
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| 17:56.43 | lepton | john_: what I do is add said user to the wheel group, then grant sudo rights to wheel group members in the sudoers file |
| 17:56.48 | AM|R | why this appear: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out |
| 17:57.05 | john_ | sounds easy ^_^ |
| 17:57.21 | shingouz | AM|R: unplugged cord? |
| 17:57.30 | AM|R | nop |
| 17:57.41 | john_ | the files /etc/sudoers contains nothing, is there a syntax of witch to put it in? |
| 17:57.53 | TBC_Lyon | john_ > Yes, for sure ! |
| 17:58.07 | lepton | john_: man 5 sudoers |
| 17:58.29 | dbron | hi all, anyone know if there is a way to hide a thread in mutt? I see an old patch, but don't see anything the current build or in the docs. What I want to be able to do is to mark a parent (that I am not interested in seeing) as hidden so that future responses are hidden as part of the thread as well. |
| 17:58.32 | AM|R | help |
| 17:58.35 | AM|R | NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out |
| 17:58.55 | john_ | I got no man pages.. From the error i get |
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| 18:00.11 | shingouz | AM|R: do you actually *have* eth1 on your box? and could you please change your nick to something without the pipe? |
| 18:00.24 | ft | dbron: i dont think so, there is a patch iirc; but it's from 2003, don't know if you can apply it to a recent mutt |
| 18:00.45 | live | zijn er hier ook nederlanders |
| 18:00.52 | lepton | john_: there should be an example in /usr/share/doc/sudo/examples |
| 18:01.01 | lepton | live: probably |
| 18:02.02 | sanmarcos | is there a way to get a traceback from firefox in debian? |
| 18:02.26 | live | man nu moet mijn hele xdoos losmaken om te herpartitioneren |
| 18:02.46 | john_ | "No such file or Directory" |
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| 18:03.18 | dbron | ft, I tried to apply it, and some minor failures in imap (just 2 total). I may try to modify the patch to make it work, but it seemed like a desirable enough feature to be included in some way. I just thought I might be approaching the task improperly. There was some disussion about using scoring, but that seemed to lead me to the ignore-thread patch. |
| 18:03.30 | john_ | BRB |
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| 18:04.21 | wolfMANIAC | hi |
| 18:04.22 | ft | dbron: i'm using imapfilter to ignore threads by message-id... works okay. |
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| 18:04.26 | sanmarcos | motherfucker |
| 18:04.31 | paolob | Hi guys! what command should I issue on my pc in order to open a gdm session on another? thank you! |
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| 18:04.42 | sanmarcos | paolob: gdmflexiserver |
| 18:04.47 | wolfMANIAC | how to detect internal modem in laptop |
| 18:04.58 | sanmarcos | wolfMANIAC: lspci |
| 18:05.12 | dbron | ft: I use imapfilter as well, can you explain how the ignore threads works? |
| 18:05.16 | wolfMANIAC | details pls |
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| 18:07.26 | paolob | sanmarcos: apparently gdmflexiserver lets me open another session on my computer... or has it the possibility to connect to another one? |
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| 18:08.41 | DevilChaos | hi back to my question from before can anyone help with the boot splash for grub please? |
| 18:09.03 | ft | dbron: um, i stripped my lua file that does this a little, and put it there: <http://www-users.rwth-aachen.de/frank.terbeck/tmp/kill_example.lua> |
| 18:09.08 | dominicano | !seen dvm |
| 18:09.08 | dpkg | dvm <n=david@d54C1038C.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 7d 4h 42m 9s ago, saying: 'valdyn: So i wait that he has finished to buil the kernel again'. |
| 18:09.11 | dominicano | !seen dvm1981 |
| 18:09.11 | dpkg | dvm1981 <n=david@d54C1038C.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 12d 18h 45m 49s ago, saying: 'fhffhqvb: Need to take a break ?'. |
| 18:09.17 | sanmarcos | paolob: read the man page |
| 18:09.18 | ft | dbron: take a look if you like |
| 18:10.00 | dbron | ft, great, thank you |
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| 18:11.04 | sanmarcos | DevilChaos: google before asking |
| 18:11.11 | ft | dbron: you're welcome |
| 18:11.18 | DevilChaos | i have and have little probs |
| 18:11.30 | DevilChaos | i found a how to |
| 18:11.45 | DevilChaos | sorrry need to write in full sentences keep forgetting |
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| 18:12.18 | sanmarcos | pleaae be specific, or dont ask |
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| 18:12.43 | orgaZmo | hi there. how do i change apt-get from cdrom to ftp ? |
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| 18:12.57 | sanmarcos | orgaZmo: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 18:13.02 | orgaZmo | is there a way to set it up? btw. in an linux n00b |
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| 18:13.08 | orgaZmo | ok.. thx |
| 18:13.11 | DevilChaos | ok i put this line in /boot/grub/menu.lst splashimage=(hd0,5)/boot/grub/splashimages/debsplash.xpm.gz and nothing happoned? |
| 18:13.22 | sanmarcos | debian is not for n00bs, check out ubuntu, although you might want to try synaptic |
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| 18:13.35 | orgaZmo | can i swap from here to prompt and then change back? |
| 18:14.09 | nisc | what's the difference between kernel-image-2.6-686 and linux-image-2.6-686 ? |
| 18:14.14 | Ryushin | I'm trying to remember how load works in top. From what I remember, the first number is how long a process is waiting to be serviced. Is this in miliseconds? |
| 18:14.15 | sanmarcos | DevilChaos: root(hd0,5) then splashimage /boot/grub/images/debian.xpm.gz |
| 18:14.28 | paolob | sanmarcos: I read it, it hasn't any parameter saying what host should I connect to |
| 18:14.28 | sanmarcos | orgaZmo: ctrl-z then fg |
| 18:14.40 | sanmarcos | paolob: check out xnest, and the startx script |
| 18:14.52 | ft | dbron: keep in mind that pattern matching in lua is not the same as regular expressions... |
| 18:15.09 | ^Ocean^ | orgaZmo, edit /etc/atp/sources.list or alternatively if ur useing (Gnome) you can goto System - > Administraton Snaptic Package manager, THen settings "Respitorys" |
| 18:15.17 | sanmarcos | Ryushin: read the kernel source if you want o |
| 18:16.04 | esher | ive like to patch my kernel to disallow users to do "ps aux" and some other thinhs. could grsecurity do this for me, or ive better use another patch ? anyone knows some good security patches ? |
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| 18:17.03 | sanmarcos | esher: eh? why would you want to do that? just limit what the user can access, move ps to /sbin |
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| 18:17.52 | esher | problem is, the user must do "ps x", but not "ps aux" |
| 18:18.05 | esher | there is a patch out, but i dont know this name yet |
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| 18:19.16 | sanmarcos | esher: why would you want that? |
| 18:19.28 | AM|R | what is the command to load kernel module with kernel menu? |
| 18:19.35 | sanmarcos | esher: make a wrapper for ps |
| 18:19.47 | sanmarcos | amIr: modconf |
| 18:20.09 | Ryushin | sanmarcos: You know, that is a pretty crappy answer. man top doesn't have the answer, so I decided to ask here. So what you're saying it, you don't know, so you want me to dig through 120 mb of kernel source. Yea, smart answer. If you don't know, then don't answer or say you don't know. |
| 18:20.23 | esher | can the wrapper also disallow /proc output etc ? |
| 18:20.36 | esher | i only will shellusers give smallest access they needed |
| 18:20.47 | sanmarcos | Ryushin: it is the answer. Look in the kernel source, I am not kidding, top reports directly from the kernel, its the truth, deal with it, welcome to linux |
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| 18:21.51 | sanmarcos | esher: are your users unix experts?.. just change the permissions on directories, anyways, set chattr +i so users cant remove files, etc.. if you are so crazy about security check out a command history monitor, there are a couple around |
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| 18:23.28 | esher | okay thanx sanmarcos |
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| 18:26.32 | djw | how does one view the Volume_ID of a cdrom iso image? |
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| 18:27.06 | dominicano | !ping |
| 18:27.06 | dpkg | pong |
| 18:27.21 | sanmarcos | djw: HAL can do that.. I am not sure how to dit manually |
| 18:27.37 | djw | sanmarcos: don't need to edit it, just be able to read it |
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| 18:27.55 | dominicano | is a good idea that Xchat don't start the irc with this channel by default! |
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| 18:30.03 | Ryushin | sanmarcos: I've been using linux since .74. I'm not a neophyte. So stop being smug. If I had the time to go through the source then fine, but I don't. |
| 18:30.14 | Ryushin | Whatever, I'll google it some more. |
| 18:30.26 | dadibs | has anyone installed a debian etch on SATA HDD from a SATA DVD over netinstall? I found modprobe ide-generic, modprobe piix and modprobe ata_pix on google but it doesnt work for me. any ideas? |
| 18:30.40 | sanmarcos | Ryushin: keep googling |
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| 18:31.43 | abrotman | Ryushin: which part of top ? |
| 18:32.21 | delire_ | sanmarcos: grepping kernel source is not a preferred means of deriving information. that can be safely admitted no? |
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| 18:33.36 | Ryushin | abrotman: CPU Load. Numbers indicate 1, 5, and 15 minutes load averages. If remember, it was how long a process was waiting before it was serviced by the cpu. I just wante do to know if it was in miliseconds or what. |
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| 18:34.39 | delire | Ryushin: i thought it was CPU time |
| 18:34.54 | bbrazil | Ryushin: average number of processes waiting to be run |
| 18:35.36 | abrotman | Ryushin: i thought it was processes waiting ? |
| 18:36.05 | delire | hehe 2 to 1. thinking about it that does make more sense. |
| 18:36.23 | abrotman | how it computes the "average" i'm not sure ... |
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| 18:36.28 | sanmarcos | is there a way of seeing the version of the dependencies of a package, besides doing the manual way for f in `apt-cache depends firefox | grep "Depends" | cut -c12-`; do dpkg -l $f | tail -n1; done |
| 18:36.34 | abrotman | sanmarcos: google! |
| 18:36.38 | dbron | ft, thanks, I will be carefule with the regexes |
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| 18:37.08 | PupenoL | Hello. |
| 18:37.13 | PupenoL | What variable should I use in a Makefile.am to install a file and respect DESTDIR ? currently it uses $(prefix) and and that tries to install directly to /usr/ |
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| 18:38.08 | ft | dbron: it's describes somewhere on lua.org iirc |
| 18:38.08 | Ryushin | bbrazil: Yea, it is the number of processes waiting to run. My mistake. |
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| 18:40.47 | sigma957 | does dpkg have anything about adding the new archive trusted key to apt? |
| 18:40.58 | abrotman | sigma957: /topic ? |
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| 18:41.54 | sigma957 | blah sorry. thing scrolls off my screen I missed it |
| 18:42.06 | cisse | hrmmm ok i have a 4 cpu machine that needs to run gzip really fast, is there a parallel implemention of it |
| 18:42.49 | deadcat | with a cd iso, i just cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw blah.iso, what do i do if i have a dvd iso? |
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| 18:43.15 | cisse | deadcat: i use mkisofs |
| 18:43.36 | delire | deadcat: i use growisofs |
| 18:43.37 | cisse | er sorry growisofs |
| 18:43.40 | deadcat | oh |
| 18:43.53 | deadcat | its not a dir, its already an image. i can mount that dvd image |
| 18:43.59 | cisse | growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cdrw blah.iso |
| 18:44.07 | deadcat | cisse: thanks |
| 18:44.27 | abrotman | cisse: not that i'm aware .. kind of sad |
| 18:44.28 | delire | deadcat: might want to use the -R -J flags to maintain rockridge/joliet compatibility.. |
| 18:44.33 | deadcat | i am expecting my dvd burner today. (= |
| 18:44.40 | deadcat | delire: ok |
| 18:44.42 | cisse | yeah there are some other interesting options too, read the manpage |
| 18:44.51 | cisse | you can set the burn speed as well |
| 18:45.05 | deadcat | k |
| 18:45.53 | deadcat | my burner was suppose to be here on the 6th. but the package got lost it seems |
| 18:45.59 | delire | deadcat: FYI it is the app that k3b and gnomebaker resource to burn DVD's anyway.. |
| 18:46.12 | delire | deadcat: you must have had it shipped with DHeLL |
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| 18:46.26 | deadcat | delire: newegg |
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| 18:46.34 | deadcat | 3 day my ass. )= |
| 18:46.40 | delire | i hear their staff have very *eclectic* tastes |
| 18:46.51 | cisse | newegg has always been great to me |
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| 18:46.55 | deadcat | delire: i dont use k3b or gnomebaker. |
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| 18:47.30 | PupenoL | is dpatch.make depricated ? |
| 18:48.22 | deadcat | delire: cisse: instead of blah.iso i can also do /path/to/a/4gig/dir/ right? |
| 18:48.52 | cisse | yeah as i recall, might need a command line switch |
| 18:49.00 | deadcat | cool |
| 18:49.18 | cisse | i've had mixed luck with growisofs dvds working on windows |
| 18:49.52 | deadcat | thats ok. if people cant read them too bad (= |
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| 18:50.35 | deadcat | -overburn is a good option eh? |
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| 18:53.32 | blenda | anyone who had trouble building libogg 1.1.3 from xiphs source? |
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| 18:53.58 | Sonny | hello: I'm receivig this message in my terminal: gaf1 kernel: CPU1: Temperature above threshold, gaf1 kernel: CPU1: Running in modulated clock mode |
| 18:54.08 | Sonny | why is it? |
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| 18:54.48 | Bucciarati | Sonny: your computer is about to explode |
| 18:55.15 | Sonny | Bucciarati: Wow... what should I do? |
| 18:55.19 | monitor | hola me llamo luna |
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| 18:55.26 | Bucciarati | is it easy to reproduce it? |
| 18:55.31 | sepski | Sonny, run... or throw it out the window !! hurry !! |
| 18:55.40 | sepski | :) |
| 18:55.43 | abrotman | !es |
| 18:55.43 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 18:56.01 | Sonny | sepski, lol I know that mi processor is hot, but how can I control it? |
| 18:56.07 | Eulex | Sonny, does acpi -V show you any temperature? |
| 18:56.10 | Bucciarati | and with what kernel versions does it happen? |
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| 18:56.38 | dimeunnick | hi |
| 18:56.59 | Eulex | Sonny, btw, is this a dual-core, dual-processor or p4 ht processor? |
| 18:57.52 | Eulex | Sonny, also, the files in /proc/acpi/processor/CPU1/ may give you some clues |
| 18:58.05 | baroni | Hi all. I'm doing audio capture (with "$ecasound -i alsa,default -o file_out.ogg"), and now I would like to streaming it throgh the web -- does anybody has some idea ? |
| 18:58.11 | dimeunnick | excuse me, is there any English over here? i want to know where they search for hostels or pensions, i mean the website. Thanks! |
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| 18:58.17 | adii | hello |
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| 18:58.30 | Eulex | dimeunnick, umh, what has that got to do with debian? |
| 18:58.45 | Sonny | Eulex, yes p4 ht |
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| 18:58.53 | dimeunnick | dunnow, but it is the only place where i thing there would be some English people XD |
| 18:59.00 | Sonny | I rather shutdown my pc for a while |
| 18:59.12 | cisse | sonny: only time i've seen those messages on my machines is when a fan died or the case was open so it wasn't cooling properly |
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| 18:59.16 | scorphus | Hi, how do I merge two floppy images in one? |
| 18:59.39 | sepski | how can i install a extension globaly to all users on a box. firefox 1.5.0 |
| 18:59.41 | Orakio | When I try to mount with -t smbfs I get the message "Killed" and nothing is mounted. |
| 19:00.01 | dimeunnick | Eulex are you English or European |
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| 19:00.10 | cisse | Orakio: i assume you've installed smbfs ? |
| 19:00.13 | adii | i'm trying to have half-life (steam) work under etch, using wine (and not cedega). everything goes well until the error : "unable to load opengl32.dll". many websites i've watched declare that the problem comes from nvidia drivers. I've followed the normal procedure (with debian packages nvidia-glx) to set it up. How can i solve this ? |
| 19:00.28 | jair | guys If I have a P4 with HT I should use the kernel image??? |
| 19:00.28 | Eulex | dimeunnick, I'm european, but what has that got to do with anything? |
| 19:01.01 | abrotman | !ht |
| 19:01.02 | dpkg | somebody said ht was Haiti. HyperThreading, a technology from intel included in processors from the P4 3.05 GHz, that emulates two processors in a single cpu machine You must enable CONFIG_ACPI_HT, CONFIG_SMP and CONFIG_CPU_LOBOTOMY in your kernel to use it. |
| 19:01.09 | dimeunnick | Eulex cauze im searching for a website that foreign people uses cause i want to put my hostel into it! |
| 19:01.18 | dimeunnick | i know it is not the appropiate channel |
| 19:01.24 | dimeunnick | and i apologize for that |
| 19:01.37 | cisse | ht is such a joke... |
| 19:01.48 | jair | abrotman, ohh that is why I am getting such a weird behavier |
| 19:01.56 | abrotman | jair: that's probably just you |
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| 19:02.15 | jair | abrotman, I just install the kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 19:02.30 | jair | abrotman, I think I have to use the smp one? |
| 19:02.34 | abrotman | yes |
| 19:02.38 | abrotman | duh |
| 19:02.42 | Orakio | cisse don't worry, that was the problem :), I used strace and it died not finding mount.smbfs, then I figured... I always thought that those tools were installed along side samba :/ |
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| 19:03.02 | jair | abrotman, but I have to still doing what dpkg tells me? |
| 19:03.10 | abrotman | no .. just use an smp kernel |
| 19:03.10 | dimeunnick | Eulex can you help me? |
| 19:03.12 | cisse | Orakio: heh i leanred it the hard way too |
| 19:03.27 | adii | is that normal : opengl not working with nvidia ? |
| 19:03.28 | jair | abrotman, the same: kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 but with smp |
| 19:03.45 | dimeunnick | Is there any European round here? i want to know what pages does he visit when he searches for hostels or things like that! |
| 19:03.58 | jair | abrotman, thank you very much, what suppose to be the effect or the improvement? |
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| 19:04.12 | abrotman | jair: HT sucks |
| 19:04.22 | Suprano | hi |
| 19:04.29 | Suprano | Can i take over a process of a lost session? |
| 19:04.31 | cisse | jair: in most instances it's not worth using HT, i've even seen it slow some of my servers up |
| 19:04.31 | abrotman | dimeunnick: wrong channel ... |
| 19:04.43 | dimeunnick | abrotman which is the appropiate channel? |
| 19:04.43 | Orakio | Yup but now it works I can finally save this installation, ext2 is less resiliant to damage than things like FAT32 :/ I need to use a share to create a backup .tar |
| 19:04.58 | jair | abrotman, haha but how do i know that it is working or enable? |
| 19:05.04 | abrotman | dimeunnick: certainly not this one .. try a social channel .. this is not one |
| 19:05.17 | dimeunnick | abrotman give me a name please |
| 19:05.18 | abrotman | jair: cat /proc/cpuinfo ? .. nfc |
| 19:05.21 | abrotman | dimeunnick: /list |
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| 19:05.49 | jair | cisse, I have an IBM machine but I was having some slow down processes very ridiculous, so I have to reinstall everything again because I did not know what was happening. |
| 19:05.57 | jair | abrotman, ok |
| 19:06.25 | cisse | jair: what ibm's ? |
| 19:06.43 | dimeunnick | abrotman my list command doesn't work! |
| 19:06.49 | jair | thinkcentre |
| 19:06.53 | abrotman | dimeunnick: then use google like a normal person |
| 19:07.08 | jair | cisee, hold one one sec I will give you the exact out put |
| 19:07.08 | tom | i want to encrypt my file system. what software do you recommend to do that? i want an automatically growing fs-image and i also want to be able to change the password |
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| 19:07.42 | cisse | tom: http://deb.riseup.net/storage/encryption/ |
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| 19:08.59 | bjenkins | what's a good audio file converter (wav-mp3) for debian? |
| 19:09.10 | Eclipser | lame? |
| 19:09.21 | bjenkins | doesn't grip use that? |
| 19:09.22 | sanmarcos | bjenkins: lame, mencoder |
| 19:09.31 | sanmarcos | bjenkins: lame is a library and a program also |
| 19:09.31 | Eclipser | (why not ogg? oggenc :p) |
| 19:09.39 | sanmarcos | because ogg is not as widely supported |
| 19:09.44 | Eclipser | bah |
| 19:09.49 | Eclipser | then make it widely supported! |
| 19:09.58 | bjenkins | ok, i know nuttin about audio files, but am trying to get a cd onto an ipod for my kid |
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| 19:10.08 | bjenkins | i have grip to rip it, which gives me wav files |
| 19:10.09 | sanmarcos | ogg is for free software hippies, I mean its good audio quality, but most people use it because they are "gnu lefties" |
| 19:10.12 | Eclipser | doesn't ipod support ogg? |
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| 19:10.17 | abrotman | bjenkins: grip uses lame or some other encoder |
| 19:10.19 | bjenkins | but gtkpod wants mp3 files, right? |
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| 19:10.22 | Eclipser | sanmarcos, debian is free software for hippies |
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| 19:10.29 | sanmarcos | bjenkins: install lame, try gtkpod |
| 19:10.46 | bjenkins | ok sanmarcos, ill give er a shot |
| 19:10.47 | jbaloul | hey anyone know when skype v2.0 will be available for linux ? |
| 19:10.48 | bjenkins | thanks |
| 19:10.58 | sanmarcos | bjenkins: no, ipod wants mp3, or aac, or other formats, try grip then gtkpod |
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| 19:11.09 | sanmarcos | bjenkins: also sound juicier has an easier UI |
| 19:11.12 | shingouz | jbaloul: ask skype? |
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| 19:11.39 | bjenkins | package lame is not available but is referred to etc etc |
| 19:11.41 | jbaloul | no answers |
| 19:11.55 | bjenkins | no installation candidate |
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| 19:12.28 | bjenkins | can you put an ogg file on an ipod and make it work? |
| 19:12.33 | sanmarcos | bjenkins: apt-cache search lame, anyways lame is a console app, try grip or sound-juicer, does it automatically |
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| 19:12.37 | shingouz | jbaloul: in that case you just need to wait. skype is closed non-free software that is not on debian, we know nothing about it |
| 19:12.39 | sanmarcos | bjenkins: no, ipod doesnt suppport ogg |
| 19:12.50 | jbaloul | ok thanks |
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| 19:13.08 | bjenkins | i thought grip used lame, but can't find lame on my filesystem |
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| 19:13.24 | sanmarcos | bjenkins: grip depends on lame, as I told you apt-cache search lame |
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| 19:14.13 | streuner | grip could use lame, but doesn't depends on it |
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| 19:14.25 | sanmarcos | not the package |
| 19:14.33 | penguin | What is the gnome program to set up pop3 email? |
| 19:14.43 | bjenkins | i see glame and toolame and ripperx |
| 19:14.49 | azeem | penguin: evolution can do that |
| 19:15.00 | sanmarcos | penguin: mail-notification? evolution? sylpheed? |
| 19:15.00 | penguin | thanks |
| 19:15.12 | Eulex | !lame |
| 19:15.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lame is : Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder at http://www.mp3dev.org/ mirrored at http://lame.sourceforge.net/ which contains debian build instructions, to make your own debs from the tarballs. Versions 3.81 onwards are LGPL!. or don't forget to 'chmod +x debian/rules'. Get .debs from <marillat> or <rarewares> |
| 19:15.17 | bjenkins | glame is a "versatile audio processor" |
| 19:15.26 | Eulex | bjenkins, ^^ |
| 19:15.42 | sanmarcos | rarewares has it |
| 19:15.54 | bjenkins | thanks fellers |
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| 19:18.10 | mark_ | How do you set the pop3 server in evolution? |
| 19:18.21 | abrotman | in the accounts manager thingie ... |
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| 19:18.29 | deadcat | haha |
| 19:18.33 | deadcat | so true |
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| 19:19.49 | yohan | Can I ask you guys a question, how come you dont use ubuntu instead of debian? |
| 19:19.56 | lilo | cool beans, you guys have a most excellent +J operand, dodged that last spambot bullet nicely |
| 19:20.00 | deadcat | yohan: no reason. |
| 19:20.02 | streuner | yohan: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 19:20.17 | abrotman | yohan: why would we? |
| 19:20.20 | sanmarcos | yohan: that question is better answered in #ubuntu |
| 19:20.24 | cisse | yohan: been using debian forever, ubuntu doesn't have much to offer me on my servers |
| 19:20.33 | sanmarcos | yohan: ubuntu is linux for humans, it focuses on the user, debian focuses on stability |
| 19:20.37 | deadcat | cisse: shh. dont say that... (= |
| 19:20.37 | abrotman | cisse: you could run gnome 134.252!~!!! |
| 19:20.50 | bjenkins | a TRULY rich url |
| 19:20.50 | cisse | abrotman: i only run e17 =D |
| 19:20.50 | abrotman | sanmarcos: i take offense to that |
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| 19:20.59 | sepski | i am trying to install a extension to all users in a sarge with firefox 1.5 from backports. i have tried -install-global-extension but it seam not to have an effect. anyone have a clue ? |
| 19:21.08 | omry | anyone tried to install zimbra on Debian? |
| 19:21.11 | yohan | hehe |
| 19:21.17 | deadcat | cisse: self built or .deb? lot of people asking for the .deb repo |
| 19:21.19 | Eulex | yohan, that question doesn't create any fruitful discussion in this channel |
| 19:21.35 | sanmarcos | abrotman: why isnt it true? Ubuntu focuses on neatness, user experience, look at its init sequence for example, its polishednes. On the desktop it far surpasses Debian on standard installs. |
| 19:21.36 | cisse | deadcat: i used to use soulmachine.net repo but i started building my own config libraries |
| 19:21.39 | yohan | I use ubuntu but i dont like gnome, I use openbox...im kind of asking myself why i just dont change to debian and use openbox there |
| 19:21.43 | sanmarcos | that question will create a distro war |
| 19:21.47 | cisse | deadcat: was segfaulting while trying to config |
| 19:21.53 | abrotman | sanmarcos: i disagree |
| 19:22.03 | sanmarcos | abrotman: ok |
| 19:22.03 | abrotman | !d-i yohan |
| 19:22.03 | dpkg | yohan, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 19:22.09 | deadcat | cisse: i see |
| 19:22.12 | yohan | Eulex: sorry, just wanted a few views that might convince me in my decision |
| 19:22.26 | deadcat | yohan: you can just apt-get install openbox in ubuntu as well. |
| 19:22.31 | mhall | Has anybody else found Firefox unusually slow lately on sid or etch? I'm having a lot of problems. |
| 19:22.37 | abrotman | or he could go ask #ubuntu how to do it |
| 19:22.37 | cisse | yohan: what are you interesting in using debian/ubuntu for, desktop machine, a bunch of servers ? |
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| 19:22.52 | yohan | deadcat: thats true, but what are other differences between the two? |
| 19:22.57 | deadcat | mhall: you mean jacking up the memory or cpu? |
| 19:23.06 | yohan | stability, installation of programs and coding |
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| 19:23.19 | deadcat | yohan: one is easy to config one is not so easy to config |
| 19:23.20 | yohan | not servers |
| 19:23.34 | abrotman | they're both easy to configure ... |
| 19:23.38 | TonyRad | Question: I want to set up my system so that it will run a command at a certain time on a certain day of the month.. I'm not sure how to do it. I've been reading the crontab man5 page, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.. Any help? |
| 19:23.41 | yohan | id imagine id conf the same way on debian as ubuntu tho... |
| 19:23.42 | abrotman | and the whole discussion doesn't belong here |
| 19:23.47 | Eulex | yohan, well, your question would be much less troll-like and would produce much better responses if you asked why to run debian instead of ubuntu instead of asking why to run ubuntu instead of debian |
| 19:23.52 | sanmarcos | I just believe Ubuntu provides all the power of debian with a great desktop experience. Not saying debian cant do it, Ubuntu just ships it all configured by default |
| 19:24.00 | lunaphyte_ | how can i jail a user in their home dir? |
| 19:24.06 | sanmarcos | lunaphyte: chroot |
| 19:24.07 | deadcat | abrotman: no way.. ubuntu is confusing (= |
| 19:24.07 | abrotman | chroot |
| 19:24.10 | yohan | Then I'll reform my question as so Eulex :) |
| 19:24.12 | cisse | TonyRad: i would google 'crontab examples' i'm sure you'll find something to copy/mimmick |
| 19:24.19 | abrotman | yohan: use what you want .. kjust pikc one |
| 19:24.19 | streuner | lilo: true |
| 19:24.26 | mhall | deadcat: 0.5% CPU, 6.1% MEM / 1024 M, 52:37.52 CPU time |
| 19:24.35 | sanmarcos | TonyRad: # m h dom mon dow user command like that |
| 19:24.36 | cisse | in my experience, on some older laptops, ubuntu works out of the box while debian takes some tweaking... |
| 19:24.39 | mhall | deadcat: doesn't seem inordinate for the amount of browsing i do |
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| 19:24.48 | mhall | deadcat: numbers from htop |
| 19:24.58 | deadcat | mhall: the problem i have is when i open lots of tabs, i will notice the slowdown. |
| 19:25.06 | yohan | Was just wondering if there is much unnecessary blote in ubuntu because of all the gnome-crap |
| 19:25.08 | TonyRad | sanmarcos: I tried that.. but it didn't really do what I wanted |
| 19:25.09 | jair | cisse, i, I am installing ssh on the IBM thinkcentre P4 HT and takes forever with the kernel smp...:( |
| 19:25.17 | mhall | deadcat: how does it happen |
| 19:25.18 | sanmarcos | TonyRad: be specific on what you want to do |
| 19:25.30 | mhall | yohan: if you want desktop environment, then you get bloat |
| 19:25.34 | cisse | jair: weird apt-get install openssh-server ? |
| 19:25.39 | mhall | yohan: it's not an ubuntu specific effect |
| 19:25.47 | deadcat | mhall: i am guessing all the CSS and things. bu ti dont really know |
| 19:25.56 | lunaphyte_ | thanks |
| 19:25.59 | mhall | deadcat: like... slow screen updates and tab switches |
| 19:26.02 | mhall | deadcat: or east CPU |
| 19:26.04 | deadcat | ya |
| 19:26.10 | mhall | deadcat: eats* CPU and RAM |
| 19:26.17 | deadcat | slow tab switches |
| 19:26.17 | mhall | deadcat: always, or just recently |
| 19:26.22 | jair | cisse, apt-get install ssh |
| 19:26.30 | sanmarcos | TonyRad: 30 6 8 * * root rm /home/user/file that runs that command at 6:30 every 8th of the month |
| 19:26.31 | mhall | deadcat: also, if you jump desktops, what happens when you go back to it |
| 19:26.34 | yohan | yea i guess so, isnt debian shipped with gnome as well? |
| 19:26.36 | cisse | jair: odd, probably taking time generating the keys ? |
| 19:26.44 | sanmarcos | TonyRad: as root, and mails a report of the output to root |
| 19:26.45 | jair | cisse, I will paste the result of cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 19:26.47 | deadcat | mhall: its been a while. i thought it was my nvidia not performing at its best.. |
| 19:26.57 | mhall | yohan: not in the same sense; we don't install anything by default except the core of the box |
| 19:27.01 | sanmarcos | yohan: ubuntu's gnome is WAY better than debian's |
| 19:27.03 | deadcat | mhall: jumping workspace is fine. |
| 19:27.11 | mhall | deadcat: well i have NV also; how can we eliminate this variable |
| 19:27.13 | jair | cisse, http://pastebin.com/548767 |
| 19:27.22 | abrotman | can we stop comparing ubuntu and debian now? |
| 19:27.22 | jair | cisse, check the P4 I have. |
| 19:27.24 | TonyRad | ok |
| 19:27.25 | mhall | deadcat: when i go back and it updates the screen, sometimes it sticks and i have to retoggle |
| 19:27.32 | yohan | ah yeah |
| 19:27.44 | cisse | jair: i have a bunch of ibm x330's in my lab running debian, 1gz p4's a few running smp kernels w/o issue |
| 19:27.45 | abrotman | perhaps we should start a #debianvsubuntu |
| 19:27.48 | mhall | deadcat: let me re-ask the question |
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| 19:27.50 | deadcat | mhall: damn. that suck... i am using nvidia by the way. not NV |
| 19:28.00 | mhall | deadcat: right same driver here |
| 19:28.01 | cisse | jair: config looks normal |
| 19:28.01 | yohan | i dont really like gnome, so that doesnt really matter for me...ubuntu still has the same "core" as debian tho, like drivers and such? |
| 19:28.01 | TonyRad | What are the *'s for? I know they mean "any" but what would it be if I put a 3 in them? |
| 19:28.10 | mhall | deadcat: i better try nv to see what it does |
| 19:28.14 | yohan | because its a derivate that is |
| 19:28.20 | dimeunnick | hola tios algun español por aqui? |
| 19:28.26 | abrotman | yohan: either instal debian .. or don't |
| 19:28.27 | mhall | yohan: give it up |
| 19:28.28 | abrotman | !es |
| 19:28.28 | jair | cisse, I will try to install couple of packages to see how behave . |
| 19:28.28 | deadcat | mhall: ya. nvidia driver is weird sometimes |
| 19:28.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:28.37 | mhall | yohan: this is a famous troll topic we hate to talk about |
| 19:28.55 | deadcat | yohan: if you want to use debian, install and use it. else shut up and use ubuntu.. |
| 19:29.08 | dimeunnick | abrotman, no sabia como decirtelo en ingles p'ero eres un capullo |
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| 19:29.25 | sanmarcos | hahaha dimeunnick |
| 19:29.29 | abrotman | dimeunnick: va a #debian-es .. |
| 19:29.38 | yohan | ok |
| 19:29.43 | sanmarcos | it is "ve" not "va" ve = go va = goes |
| 19:29.53 | abrotman | sanmarcos: can you tell i'm not spanish? |
| 19:29.57 | mhall | sanmarcos: that's really quite ironic |
| 19:30.08 | sanmarcos | abrotman: just telling you how to spell it correctly, dont give me an attitude |
| 19:30.10 | mhall | sanmarcos: it's a large nick that says 'small nick' i take it? |
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| 19:30.14 | dimeunnick | abrotman i told you that you were a bastard in spanish |
| 19:30.17 | abrotman | sanmarcos: i really don't care .. |
| 19:30.17 | dimeunnick | only that |
| 19:30.23 | abrotman | dimeunnick: good for you |
| 19:30.27 | mhall | sanmarcos: that wasn't attitude; he was being funny |
| 19:30.28 | sanmarcos | mhall: ? to quote abrotman: i really don't care |
| 19:30.31 | jair | cisse, the second time I boot the machine it was pretty fast using the kernel smp |
| 19:30.38 | Ryugi | hello |
| 19:30.45 | jair | cisse, I will continue installing couple of things |
| 19:30.49 | cisse | hrm k |
| 19:30.52 | jair | cisse, see how behave |
| 19:30.52 | sanmarcos | to be funny in irc you have to be quite literal |
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| 19:31.15 | mark_ | Where does the password go in evolution? |
| 19:31.24 | abrotman | when you check your mail .. it will ask you for it |
| 19:31.24 | deadcat | mhall: the config thingy |
| 19:31.29 | deadcat | mark_: ^^ |
| 19:31.31 | sanmarcos | mark_: ~/.gnome2_private/ |
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| 19:32.03 | mark_ | I need password to send |
| 19:32.06 | sanmarcos | mark_: that is your home/.gnome2_private/Evolution, tex tfiles with the hash of the password |
| 19:32.09 | mhall | sanmarcos: no; to be funny *to you* in irc you have to be quite literal |
| 19:32.27 | sanmarcos | mhall: right, anyways |
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| 19:32.43 | Ryugi | i would like to know if kde 3.5.1 is available for debian |
| 19:32.51 | abrotman | ask #debian-kde |
| 19:32.54 | sanmarcos | Ryugi: no |
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| 19:33.11 | predius_ | how do I install the nvidia legacy drivers? |
| 19:33.15 | sanmarcos | Ryugi: although #kubuntu might have it |
| 19:33.17 | mark_ | That account editor thingy wont take a password? |
| 19:33.18 | sanmarcos | predius_: there is a legacy package |
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| 19:33.26 | Eulex | umh, kde 3.5.1 is in unstable |
| 19:33.27 | abrotman | mark_: it should |
| 19:33.36 | predius_ | sanmarcos: which install to /usr/src/, but does not work with debuild |
| 19:33.39 | sanmarcos | predius_: apt-cache search legacy nvidia |
| 19:33.41 | Ryugi | ok |
| 19:33.42 | abrotman | who the hell would want to use KDE anyways? |
| 19:33.52 | sanmarcos | predius_: the last legacy from the nvidia site is 7174 |
| 19:33.55 | Ryugi | which of the latest kde does debian have |
| 19:33.58 | sanmarcos | predius_: see #nvidia anyways |
| 19:34.03 | predius_ | I am in #nvidia |
| 19:34.04 | abrotman | Ryugi: ask #debian-kde |
| 19:34.08 | danieldg | Ryugi: unstable has 3.5.1 |
| 19:34.14 | deadcat | abrotman: should be who the hell uses debian AND kde |
| 19:34.21 | deadcat | !tell predius_ about nvidia one-liner |
| 19:34.24 | predius_ | but this is a debian issue, because the nvidia drivers supposedly overwrite some of apt stuff. |
| 19:34.30 | Eulex | Ryugi, unstable has 3.5.1, testing has 3.4.3, stable has 3.3.2 |
| 19:34.30 | sanmarcos | dont generalize deadcat |
| 19:34.36 | abrotman | deadcat: kde is for tards |
| 19:34.40 | sanmarcos | predius_: what? what is the problem? |
| 19:34.50 | Ryugi | ok |
| 19:34.55 | sanmarcos | abrotman: trying to spur up a desktop war? :) |
| 19:35.01 | abrotman | sanmarcos: no .. i'm stating a fact |
| 19:35.04 | Rawplayer | MI |
| 19:35.08 | sanmarcos | abrotman: I agree anyways :) |
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| 19:35.16 | abrotman | i don't care if you agree or not . it's a fact :) |
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| 19:35.40 | deadcat | is elignthment desktop or wm? i really dont know where i should catagorize it. |
| 19:35.59 | predius_ | sanmarcos: the nvidia legacy kernel does not work when I try to build the package. |
| 19:36.00 | abrotman | desktop |
| 19:36.11 | sanmarcos | predius_: really? |
| 19:36.29 | Eulex | !doesn't work |
| 19:36.29 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 19:36.29 | sanmarcos | predius_: what is the error... ? |
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| 19:36.48 | predius_ | there are some files, some calle something.template. |
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| 19:37.12 | predius_ | so, I modify the .templates (like control) and change the #KVERS# with my kernel version. |
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| 19:37.38 | predius_ | I build, and it removes all the files which were .templat and quits. |
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| 19:39.16 | abrotman | why can't people take better care of thier computers? |
| 19:39.24 | sanmarcos | because of debian |
| 19:39.37 | abrotman | how is that related? |
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| 19:39.52 | sanmarcos | see, you just said it |
| 19:39.55 | Ryugi | i am fairly new to linux (have use freebsd for a year) and i was recommended to use fedora by some people and debian by others |
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| 19:40.01 | abrotman | i meant the bots .. |
| 19:40.11 | abrotman | Ryugi: DEBIAN! |
| 19:40.11 | Ryugi | what does debian offer that fedora does not |
| 19:40.14 | sanmarcos | Ryugi: if you are new to linux, then try Ubuntu or Fedora, not debian |
| 19:40.18 | abrotman | !tell Ryugi about why debian |
| 19:40.30 | abrotman | sanmarcos: if he can use fbsd .. he should be able to handle debian |
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| 19:40.41 | sanmarcos | ah right, misread thats |
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| 19:41.09 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 19:41.09 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 19:41.38 | abrotman | !moo |
| 19:41.38 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 19:41.59 | sanmarcos | The Brazilian army uses Debian on network servers. The Debian distribution was chosen because of the level of security, the easiness of use and the popularity. |
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| 19:43.07 | mhall | sanmarcos: i'm beginning to wonder about the size of the clue-free zone in which you live |
| 19:43.23 | sanmarcos | mhall: huh? |
| 19:43.30 | sanmarcos | clue-free ? |
| 19:43.41 | sanmarcos | i.e "have no clue" |
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| 19:44.34 | mhall | sanmarcos: the irony is, you haven't quite got the meaning of the word figured out, thereby leading to you defining it on the fly |
| 19:44.35 | abrotman | jjazz: do eet! |
| 19:44.52 | Ryugi | are there any ati drivers for debian that have 3 acceleration |
| 19:44.55 | mhall | sanmarcos: for the love of $DEITY, the self-referentiality is unberable |
| 19:44.59 | abrotman | jjazz: i'll get it! |
| 19:45.12 | jjazz | abrotman: You do it. I don't feel like figuring out the syntax right now. |
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| 19:45.21 | sanmarcos | mhall: please go back to your cave |
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| 19:45.54 | mhall | sanmarcos: the great irony being that we're all wondering, out of which one you crawled |
| 19:46.50 | Charminthemoose | If my internet connection(ip gotten via dchp) is not detected by the debian installer,would it be detected by hotplug/autoconfig devices at the boot of the installed OS? |
| 19:47.34 | sanmarcos | Charminthemoose: hotplug-net you need to set it up in /etc/network/interfaces, dpkg should help you with that |
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| 19:47.43 | abrotman | !qotd160 |
| 19:47.43 | dpkg | methinks qotd160 is <mhall> sanmarcos: i'm beginning to wonder about the size of the clue-free zone in which you live <sanmarcos> mhall: huh? <sanmarcos> clue-free ? <sanmarcos> i.e "have no clue" |
| 19:47.47 | abrotman | jjazz: good enough ? |
| 19:47.54 | Ryugi | oes anyone know if ati radeon drivers can work in debian |
| 19:47.55 | jjazz | abrotman: perfect. |
| 19:48.14 | SimonRaven | !qotd |
| 19:48.14 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one, or <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already, or <literal qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". |
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| 19:48.21 | abrotman | hehe |
| 19:48.25 | SimonRaven | !qotd0 |
| 19:48.25 | dpkg | <jetscreamer> should be doable though, even if it's not |
| 19:48.29 | sanmarcos | abrotman: go back to your cave |
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| 19:48.42 | SimonRaven | sanmarcos: go back to sleep |
| 19:48.47 | abrotman | sanmarcos: are you going to cry? |
| 19:48.49 | jjazz | abrotman: I bet that cave gets lonely, now that Damon has left. |
| 19:48.49 | sanmarcos | SimonRaven: oh now you jump in? |
| 19:48.59 | Eulex | Ryugi, yes, and yes |
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| 19:49.02 | kspath | !channel_smite |
| 19:49.03 | abrotman | jjazz: i'll take a bear with me |
| 19:49.11 | SimonRaven | i'll do so if and when i want to |
| 19:49.20 | abrotman | jjazz: just one? |
| 19:49.23 | kspath | !bier_smite jjazz |
| 19:49.24 | abrotman | !beer jjazz |
| 19:49.27 | sanmarcos | abrotman: Alexander seriously, we should both shut up |
| 19:49.34 | abrotman | sanmarcos: piss off and die? |
| 19:49.42 | blondie | hello |
| 19:49.51 | abrotman | have a nice day! :) |
| 19:49.56 | abrotman | blondie: where've you been hiding? |
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| 19:50.01 | blondie | umm |
| 19:50.05 | halibut | How can I check which program is blocking the soundcard? |
| 19:50.06 | blondie | at work c.c |
| 19:50.07 | jjazz | abrotman: I'm not much for beer... maybe a bottle of boubron... actually that cave is starting to sound rather nice. |
| 19:50.32 | mhall | abrotman: probably busy hangin with dagwood |
| 19:50.35 | mhall | PINTO |
| 19:50.40 | kspath | BEAN! |
| 19:50.44 | mhall | kspath: :-) |
| 19:50.51 | kspath | CHUCK! |
| 19:50.54 | streuner | halibut: running GNOME or KDE? |
| 19:50.57 | abrotman | sanmarcos: DO NOT MSG ME |
| 19:51.00 | halibut | streuner, kde |
| 19:51.00 | mhall | jjazz: mmm maker's mark |
| 19:51.02 | abrotman | !wine jjazz |
| 19:51.14 | abrotman | !tell sanmarcos about guidelines |
| 19:51.16 | streuner | halibut: prolly arts is it then... |
| 19:51.21 | jjazz | I *do* like a nice cabernet. |
| 19:51.30 | abrotman | sanmarcos: DO NOT MSG ME |
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| 19:51.34 | abrotman | dumbass |
| 19:51.40 | sanmarcos | what? |
| 19:51.40 | halibut | streuner, alsa |
| 19:51.41 | jjazz | mhall: I like Maker's, but my everyday drink is Jack. |
| 19:51.43 | abrotman | some people are so fucking stupid |
| 19:51.43 | tarzeau | heh |
| 19:51.43 | cisse | lol |
| 19:51.58 | mhall | jjazz: oof, that's bad stuff |
| 19:52.04 | streuner | halibut: nah, you have prolly ARTS running as well, just disable it |
| 19:52.06 | abrotman | "oh .. he said don't do it .. maybe i should do it again" .. |
| 19:52.07 | mhall | jjazz: i'll compromise; how about jim beam |
| 19:52.18 | cisse | jim is awful =D |
| 19:52.24 | streuner | halibut: via kcontrol |
| 19:52.31 | mhall | cisse: better than vodka |
| 19:52.32 | jjazz | mhall: I only drink beam under certain circumstances... usually desparate ones. |
| 19:52.44 | cisse | mhall: touche |
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| 19:52.50 | abrotman | sanmarcos: STOP BEING A FUCKING TARD |
| 19:52.53 | jjazz | mhall: I'm a fan of Jack's distinctive character, though I admit it's not exactly a high quality or smooth bourbon. |
| 19:53.00 | cisse | heh |
| 19:53.01 | tarzeau | msg me! msg me! |
| 19:53.05 | cisse | i only drink cheap wine from trader joes |
| 19:53.09 | tarzeau | alone? /msg tarzeau |
| 19:53.16 | abrotman | what a freaking loser |
| 19:53.37 | mark_ | What is port number for pop3? |
| 19:53.42 | streuner | 110 |
| 19:53.43 | abrotman | what you set it to |
| 19:53.46 | cisse | markw: grep pop3 /etc/services |
| 19:53.51 | mhall | jjazz: how about knob creek then? jack's flavor but better |
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| 19:53.52 | abrotman | oh .. not your server? |
| 19:53.53 | jjazz | cisse: Remind me never to invite you to dinner. I can't stand people that show up to dinner with a bottle of $7 wine, all proud they only paid $2. It's still terrible. |
| 19:54.14 | tarzeau | jjazz: hahha |
| 19:54.16 | cisse | jjazz: i would never bring a bottle like that to dinner, i'm just too poor to drink nice wine each night =D |
| 19:54.21 | abrotman | jjazz: what if i bring some BEAST! |
| 19:54.24 | SimonRaven | getent services pop3 |
| 19:54.24 | jjazz | mhall: Too refined... if I'm headed in that direction, I usually do a Woodford. |
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| 19:54.35 | jjazz | abrotman: The beast is always welcome in my home. |
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| 19:54.41 | mansu | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.47 | mhall | jjazz: lol! |
| 19:54.48 | abrotman | jjazz: BEAST .. from milwuakee? |
| 19:54.53 | jjazz | abrotman: exactly |
| 19:54.57 | abrotman | ew ... |
| 19:54.59 | abrotman | ew ew |
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| 19:55.06 | debiankid | hi all |
| 19:55.12 | abrotman | jjazz: though .. i guess it tastes like the water from your tap :) |
| 19:55.13 | cisse | jjazz: but in all seriousness the 7-12$ bottles from chile, argentina, south africa, portugal are just as good as anything in the 20-30 range from france/italy/cali |
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| 19:55.19 | debiankid | i need some help installing debian from ftp |
| 19:55.21 | jjazz | abrotman: I won't drink it, but you can fill the tub with ice and cans and we can pretend we're in college. |
| 19:55.21 | SimonRaven | using getent will show it whether or not it's in some DB besides just /etc/services |
| 19:55.32 | streuner | debiankid: just ask |
| 19:55.46 | debiankid | i have 2 dvds shared on a windows computer and i want to install my debian computer from there how can i access there? |
| 19:55.53 | jjazz | cisse: Yes, I agree, there are good wines under $10. Trader Joe's wine isn't among them. |
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| 19:56.21 | mark_ | I still dont see where evolution takes a password |
| 19:56.24 | SimonRaven | !rube goldberg install |
| 19:56.24 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 19:56.27 | cisse | lol jjazz i disagree |
| 19:56.29 | debiankid | i have the dvds shared on an ftp server called ftp://windowscomputer/dvd1 and dvd2 |
| 19:56.39 | abrotman | mark_: maybe you should try asking on irc.gnome.org? |
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| 19:56.49 | jjazz | cisse: If you put their merlot on ice, you've got something drinkable, I'll give you that. |
| 19:57.06 | cisse | jjazz: they don't have a house brand, are you referring to charles shaw ? |
| 19:57.17 | jjazz | cisse: yes |
| 19:57.22 | Peterken | Good evening all. I have a question about grub splash screens. I'm used to use lilo but since my last install i use grub, but i see that 'update-grub' searches for splash images. In what directory is GRUB searching for that image (i downloaded some, and i want to try it out) |
| 19:57.22 | debiankid | what i have to add on sources.list? deb ftp://windowshost/dvd1 ? |
| 19:57.42 | tarzeau | Peterken: forget it |
| 19:57.48 | cisse | jjazz: heh i agree it's crap, my gf loves their beaujolais |
| 19:57.53 | streuner | debiankid: /msg dpkg ig |
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| 19:57.59 | cisse | i like the cheap malbecs and other spanish type wines |
| 19:57.59 | Peterken | oh tarzeau , why? |
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| 19:58.20 | debiankid | streuner what is that ? |
| 19:58.29 | deadcat | debiankid: make your repo. |
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| 19:58.47 | streuner | debiankid: installation guide, something everyone should read who wants to install debian |
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| 19:59.10 | debiankid | deadcat yes but i have the dvds shared on a windows computer , is that doable ? |
| 19:59.20 | deadcat | debiankid: i dont know. |
| 19:59.26 | mackal | I just ugpraded to 2.6.15-1 (from 2.6.11) and my Audigy no longer works, while alsamixer/kmix show totally different (and messed up?) channels... anyone know what changed? |
| 19:59.27 | tarzeau | Peterken: just my little tip ;) |
| 19:59.30 | Ryugi | if i do the net install for kde |
| 19:59.31 | deadcat | debiankid: mounting a dvd image is NOT a repo |
| 19:59.38 | Pollywog | is there a dpkg command that will show the date a package was compiled, without having to install it first? |
| 19:59.39 | Ryugi | which version of kde would i get |
| 19:59.41 | mansu | any one have suggestions about /usr? are there any problems with softlinling files in /usr across partitions? |
| 19:59.50 | tarzeau | Pollywog: testing+ ? |
| 19:59.50 | debiankid | deadcat i dont have the dvdimages i have the files |
| 19:59.53 | deadcat | Ryugi: depends on which tree you install |
| 19:59.57 | Peterken | lol tarzeau: tnx for you tip :-) but can you tell me why. isn't it possible or something? |
| 19:59.57 | tarzeau | Pollywog: /var/log/dpkg.log otherwise, no |
| 20:00.06 | Pollywog | tarzeau: tnx |
| 20:00.08 | Ryugi | the stable one |
| 20:00.11 | debiankid | ftp://1windowshost/dvd2/dists/ |
| 20:00.11 | tarzeau | Peterken: it's a secret, can't tell you the details :) |
| 20:00.14 | deadcat | debiankid: like i said. a dvd image over the net doesnt NOT mean its a repo |
| 20:00.19 | debiankid | same with dvd1 |
| 20:00.39 | deadcat | debiankid: well, maybe it is. i dont know... |
| 20:00.47 | debiankid | deadcat dont you get it is not an image all the files are unpacked |
| 20:00.47 | Peterken | That's not a serious answer :( |
| 20:01.07 | deadcat | debiankid: i dont use debian |
| 20:01.40 | debiankid | hello ani advise? |
| 20:01.50 | abrotman | the word is any |
| 20:01.52 | Eulex | debhelper, look for a directory that looks like ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/. |
| 20:02.20 | debiankid | any help? |
| 20:02.37 | debiankid | abrotman :( |
| 20:02.41 | jjazz | debiankid: I don't know if the DVD is setup with the structure of a repo |
| 20:02.53 | jjazz | debiankid: But if it is, it sounds plausible. |
| 20:03.02 | abrotman | !repository |
| 20:03.03 | dpkg | i heard debian repository is a set of Debian packages organized into a predefined structure for fetching with apt-get. A howto is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html |
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| 20:03.38 | mark_ | What is the difference between apop and pop? |
| 20:03.43 | Adoh | Hi, I'm trying to install a printer via cups, but I dont get it!! And some people told me that might be something related to samba...cuz the message I got is "Tree Connect Failed" does anybody can help me , plz |
| 20:03.47 | coachz | what package do i install to run php scripts locally please ? |
| 20:03.53 | deadcat | mark_: do an online serach |
| 20:03.55 | Adoh | I use 'smb://supervidor@10.0.0.24/hp' in the location and URI fields on CUPS....but I cant print...(supervisor is the user) the printer is installed on a win2k |
| 20:04.03 | Adoh | I tried 'smbclient -L 10.0.0.24 -U supervisor -N' and got this message... http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/d41Z5Z56.html |
| 20:04.11 | abrotman | coachz: php4-cgi |
| 20:04.13 | deadcat | coachz: commandline or via a browser? |
| 20:04.16 | mark_ | Doing that, thought someone might know here |
| 20:04.17 | coachz | command line |
| 20:04.21 | deadcat | php5-cli |
| 20:04.23 | debiankid | jjazz the content of the dvd are same as rpst |
| 20:04.25 | Ryugi | can i install i install the java j2ee on debian |
| 20:04.31 | abrotman | deadcat: you assume he has php5 ? |
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| 20:04.37 | abrotman | coachz: which version of debian? |
| 20:04.41 | coachz | 4 |
| 20:04.41 | deadcat | abrotman: dont assume he has 4 either (= |
| 20:04.52 | coachz | i just did php4-cgi thanks |
| 20:04.52 | abrotman | 4 is not a version of debian |
| 20:04.58 | Peterken | ok, going to boot tarzeau , trying my splash image |
| 20:05.00 | cisse | hrm anyone know if the debian openssh-server package has the HPN performance patch ? |
| 20:05.02 | abrotman | coachz: it's php4-cli .. i miskeyed it |
| 20:05.08 | tarzeau | petemc: good luck |
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| 20:05.31 | coachz | how do i test it php ? |
| 20:05.44 | deadcat | you have php scripts. you should know |
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| 20:06.14 | coachz | thanks |
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| 20:06.53 | debiankid | well i did that deb ftp://windowspc/dvd1/dists/ main stable is that ok ? |
| 20:07.02 | deadcat | debiankid: let us know |
| 20:07.11 | mentor | hmmm. Rhythm Box Applet should have a volume control bit |
| 20:07.15 | streuner | debiankid: surely it wouldn't work |
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| 20:07.44 | stone32 | Is there any way of using the Sarge install disk as a rescue disk? (Like rescbf24) |
| 20:07.47 | Ryugi | does anyone here use the java j2ee in debian |
| 20:07.50 | streuner | debiankid: without samba its hardly possible to access your DVD in windows at all |
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| 20:07.58 | debiankid | mmmm conection time out |
| 20:07.59 | abrotman | !tell Ryugi about install java |
| 20:08.07 | oklinux | what is the command I have to run when I switchout video card ? |
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| 20:08.15 | Eulex | debiankid, as I said, look for a directory that looks like ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/. if you look at that directory, you see that that directory *contains* the dists directory |
| 20:08.16 | debiankid | streuner i have running an ftp server on that windows pc |
| 20:08.21 | icebit | hi all |
| 20:08.34 | debiankid | ok |
| 20:08.51 | streuner | debiankid: sure, but you need the base-system first |
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| 20:09.23 | oklinux | stew you here ? |
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| 20:10.20 | deadcat | debiankid: what the f you trying to do? do you not have broadband or something? |
| 20:11.27 | oklinux | what is the command I have to run when I switchout video card ? |
| 20:11.38 | abrotman | !drxx |
| 20:11.39 | dpkg | i heard drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:11.39 | streuner | <debiankid> i have 2 dvds shared on a windows computer and i want to install my debian computer from there how can i access there? |
| 20:11.41 | abrotman | that one ? |
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| 20:12.03 | mhall | abrotman: which bot fact is most requested? |
| 20:12.04 | debiankid | deadcat im trying to update my apt sources from my unix computer |
| 20:12.13 | mhall | abrotman: or fact*s* if possible |
| 20:12.23 | mhall | abrotman: or how do i find ou |
| 20:12.28 | mhall | out* |
| 20:12.29 | jjazz | debiankid: Is your debian box already installed? |
| 20:12.31 | deadcat | debiankid: updating from a dvd is NOT updating... |
| 20:12.37 | debiankid | jjazz yessss |
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| 20:12.46 | abrotman | mhall: dunno |
| 20:12.55 | streuner | !own rep |
| 20:12.56 | oklinux | brb |
| 20:12.58 | streuner | !own repo |
| 20:12.59 | jjazz | debiankid: Is the windows box connected to the internet? |
| 20:13.14 | debiankid | jjazz nope |
| 20:13.25 | dpkg | Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./"; |
| 20:13.40 | streuner | debiankid: ^^^ |
| 20:13.48 | debiankid | i only want install some files |
| 20:14.05 | debiankid | i give up :( |
| 20:14.07 | jjazz | debiankid: The info you've given is a little confusing, but it sounds to me like you need to point apt-get at the repo on the dvd. |
| 20:14.20 | debiankid | jjazz exactly |
| 20:14.29 | debiankid | jjazz exactly |
| 20:14.36 | jjazz | debiankid: If you only want a few files, why not just ftp the debs over and dpkg -i them? |
| 20:14.54 | debiankid | jjazz yes but how |
| 20:15.08 | jjazz | debiankid: ftp ftp://windowscomputer/dvd |
| 20:15.11 | streuner | via LAN? |
| 20:15.12 | deadcat | debiankid: just just plug the fucking cd in |
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| 20:15.25 | debiankid | deadcat jejejej i dont have the cd |
| 20:15.27 | jjazz | debiankid: Then navigate to the directory and do get <filename> |
| 20:15.29 | debiankid | ever cdron |
| 20:15.33 | deadcat | debiankid: wget the fucking files |
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| 20:15.50 | jjazz | Or use wget. |
| 20:15.56 | debiankid | deadcat maybe and the dependences ? |
| 20:16.04 | debiankid | it would be better doing as apt |
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| 20:17.22 | jjazz | debiankid: Then, point your /etc/apt/sources.list at ftp://windowscomp/dvd/debian <branch> main non-free contrib (last two are optional) |
| 20:17.27 | mhall | !abrotman++ |
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| 20:17.42 | deadcat | jjazz: he couldnt get it up! (= |
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| 20:18.05 | debiankid | jjazz ok |
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| 20:18.41 | Orakio | I lost everything in /dev on my debian machine, how can I restore it? |
| 20:18.41 | mhall | Orakio: what did you do |
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| 20:18.42 | jjazz | debiankid: Find the debian dir on the dvd and point apt at it. I assume the dvd is organized like a repo of some kind, but I've never looked at the dvds, so I don't actually know. |
| 20:18.55 | Eulex | Orakio, stable/testing/unstable and what kernel? |
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| 20:19.21 | jjazz | debiankid: That line should be the only line in your sources.list. Then do apt-get update and see if it can find the dvd. |
| 20:19.26 | Orakio | mhall: to be exact, I wanted to take the linux install from one machine and migrate to another, but I couldn't move /dev and just did mkdir /dev |
| 20:19.33 | hans0lo | Ack! I need help. I just upgraded to the latest kernel, and now my system won't boot. I get an error "Cannot open root device "hda2 |
| 20:19.37 | Orakio | 2.4 |
| 20:19.38 | mhall | Orakio: ok hold on |
| 20:19.48 | abrotman | Piggy: squeal! |
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| 20:20.02 | debiankid | jjazz e: malformed line 1 in sources /etc/apt/sources.lis dist parse |
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| 20:20.16 | tuxillo | hi |
| 20:20.21 | mhall | Orakio: apt-get install --reinstall makedev |
| 20:20.27 | jjazz | debiankid: hang on a sec. |
| 20:20.30 | Flexy | is anyone else having problems with bitlbee? I'm trying it for the first time and it seems that atleast some of my messages goes to ICQ friend of mine, but I can't get any of his messages to me? |
| 20:20.32 | mhall | Orakio: this should put a MAKEDEV tool in /dev |
| 20:20.39 | stone32 | With the Woody install disk, you could use it as a rescue disk by typing rescue or rescbf24. Can you do anything similar with the Sarge disk? |
| 20:20.43 | hans0lo | Cannot open root device "hda2" or unknown-block (0,0) |
| 20:20.44 | Orakio | thanks |
| 20:20.47 | mhall | Orakio: which can make the devices automatically when you run it with the right options |
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| 20:20.56 | hans0lo | Please append a correct "root=" boot option |
| 20:20.58 | tuxillo | I have some kind of problem with my dvd writer. I cannot burn DVD at more than 2x. any clues? thank :) |
| 20:21.04 | mhall | Orakio: The MAKEDEV executable is used to create device files, often in /dev. |
| 20:21.29 | epitron | what logfile would SCP connections be logged in? |
| 20:21.46 | Eulex | hans0lo, define "latest kernel", how you upgraded to it, and what kind of hdd you have |
| 20:21.59 | barnum | haha ok nevermind that one |
| 20:22.02 | barnum | misfire |
| 20:22.10 | tuxillo | this dvd writer supports 16x dvd burning |
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| 20:22.14 | beetlepun | hi |
| 20:22.22 | jjazz | debiankid: what's in that line? |
| 20:22.33 | deadcat | tuxillo: what dvd burner is it? |
| 20:22.36 | hans0lo | Eulex: Latest kernel is the linux-image-k7-smp virtual package (always most recent) in etch. HDD is primary master IDE |
| 20:22.42 | debiankid | deb ftp://mywindowshost/dvd1/ main |
| 20:23.03 | beetlepun | wondering what I can use to prevent my router's table from being automagically updated after invoking the networking script and customizing the interfaces file.. |
| 20:23.10 | jjazz | debiankid: Are you running stable, testing or unstable? |
| 20:23.18 | debiankid | stable |
| 20:23.26 | debiankid | debian 3.1 stable |
| 20:23.28 | jjazz | debiankid: put the word stable before main |
| 20:23.29 | debiankid | sarge |
| 20:23.38 | debiankid | jjazz ok there i go |
| 20:23.42 | tuxillo | deadcat: LG GSA-4167B |
| 20:23.47 | deadcat | no clue |
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| 20:23.49 | beetlepun | where is my static route file settings? |
| 20:23.50 | jjazz | debiankid: apt-get update |
| 20:24.13 | deadcat | beetlepun: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:24.16 | stone32 | so ok, has the rescue disk feature been dropped from Sarge, or what? |
| 20:24.25 | tuxillo | deadcat: I don't know if I must do something special for dvd writing |
| 20:24.25 | deadcat | stone32: yeep |
| 20:24.28 | debiankid | jjazz log in 0% |
| 20:24.46 | Eulex | hans0lo, sorry, dunno then. you could try something a little less new, though, like the 2.6.14 kernel. |
| 20:25.13 | jjazz | debiankid: is the windows ftp accessible by anonymous ftp? |
| 20:25.16 | deadcat | tuxillo: i dont know either. i am waiting for my dvd to be delivered today by the fucking ups .. 2 days late. |
| 20:25.16 | stew | hans0lo: what kind of drive is it? pata or sata? |
| 20:25.16 | stone32 | so what is the recommended way of rescuing a debian installation? All I need is to just chroot in there and run lilo |
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| 20:25.24 | debiankid | jjazz i thik yes |
| 20:25.28 | hans0lo | Eulex: K, will try that. |
| 20:25.28 | deadcat | stone32: any live cd |
| 20:25.30 | jjazz | debiankid: verify it |
| 20:25.34 | hans0lo | stew: pata |
| 20:25.51 | jjazz | stone32: boot with a rescue disk or a livecd |
| 20:25.57 | stone32 | well, Knoppix doesn't seem to work. Guess I'll try some others |
| 20:26.00 | tuxillo | deadcat: kill em ! |
| 20:26.03 | debiankid | yes allow anonymous access |
| 20:26.15 | debiankid | im going to do other thing now |
| 20:26.17 | deadcat | tuxillo: hehe |
| 20:26.17 | stone32 | thanks for the help |
| 20:26.18 | jjazz | stone32: If knoppix won't boot, talk to #knoppix about the boot options. |
| 20:26.19 | hans0lo | Eulex: Is the correct line in menu.lst: kernel /vmlinuz-<etc> root=/dev/hda2 ro |
| 20:26.30 | debiankid | im going to try using http |
| 20:26.38 | stone32 | ok, thanks, I'll do that |
| 20:26.40 | jjazz | debiankid: Then I don't know what log in 0% means. |
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| 20:26.51 | paistis | hi |
| 20:26.56 | jjazz | debiankid: I don't recall seeing that error before, sorry. |
| 20:27.01 | Eulex | hans0lo, I think so. |
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| 20:27.10 | debiankid | jjazz connection time out |
| 20:27.11 | paistis | i have weird problem whit dhcp server |
| 20:27.11 | debiankid | jjazz connection time out |
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| 20:27.15 | deadcat | debiankid: do you not have broadband or something? |
| 20:27.18 | stew | hans0lo: are you editing menu.lst by hand instead of just using update-grub? |
| 20:27.22 | barnum | stone32 just use the deb install disk at boot linux root=/dev/XXXX ( insert your root dev here ) |
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| 20:27.28 | paistis | it give the ip addrs to it self |
| 20:27.29 | jjazz | debiankid: Ah... ok... it's not connecting for some reason |
| 20:27.31 | Eulex | hans0lo, may be /dev/sda2, though |
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| 20:28.29 | hans0lo | stew: no, I let aptitude/dpkg do it all |
| 20:28.29 | paistis | and put that addres to nextcomputer how ask ip |
| 20:28.29 | stew | Eulex: he said pata |
| 20:28.30 | paistis | and change his own ip |
| 20:28.30 | stew | hans0lo: does your /etc/kernel-img.conf conttain postinst and psotrm lines for update-grub? |
| 20:28.34 | jjazz | debiankid: It's trying to log in and then timing out... I don't know why it would do that. |
| 20:28.36 | hans0lo | Eulex: Did they change pata to scsi emulation? |
| 20:28.48 | debiankid | jjazz windows just sucks |
| 20:29.09 | debiankid | jjazz im going to install apache on that computer to share under http |
| 20:29.10 | stew | hans0lo: it should probably be "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-..." not "kernel /vmlinux..." |
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| 20:29.46 | hans0lo | stew: yes, postinst line is /sbin/update-grub |
| 20:29.48 | jjazz | debiankid: how big is the hd on the linux box? how much free space? |
| 20:30.01 | debiankid | jjazz 20 gb |
| 20:30.03 | hans0lo | stew: yeah, it is, I had a typo |
| 20:30.09 | debiankid | home is 20 gb free |
| 20:30.40 | jjazz | debiankid: Are these physical mounted dvd's? Or just images? |
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| 20:31.08 | debiankid | nono |
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| 20:31.28 | debiankid | jjazz u mean windows or unix computer hd? |
| 20:31.38 | beetlepun | deadcat, there's a route entry that gets automatically placed in the route table, is there something I can do other than make a script to route del it ? |
| 20:32.03 | hans0lo | Eulex, stew: I'm gonna reboot. I'll be back if this didn't work. Thanks! |
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| 20:32.18 | jjazz | debiankid: If you have physical dvds (as opposed to images), install the dvd drive on the linux box, and do the update. If they're images, pull the image over the lan to the linux box. |
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| 20:32.58 | debiankid | jjazz well there is one trouble |
| 20:33.19 | debiankid | jjazz the debian box is a server and have inside lots of users |
| 20:33.29 | jjazz | debiankid: Ah, you can't pull it down. |
| 20:33.37 | debiankid | jjazz exactly |
| 20:33.58 | Orakio | I've lost my /dev directory, how for debian create it on a new install? I've tried makedev but it can't make things like initctl... do I need devfs? |
| 20:35.16 | beetlepun | Orakio, well you can always use the special copy parameters for copying node files with a bootdisk.. |
| 20:35.35 | Flexy | anyone running bitlbee succesfully? |
| 20:35.37 | stew | Orakio: what kernel version are you using? |
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| 20:35.50 | stew | Flexy: tons of people |
| 20:35.53 | jjazz | debiankid: I think you have to find a way to get into that ftp repo |
| 20:36.14 | debiankid | jjazz thats why im trying to do everything |
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| 20:36.31 | Flexy | stew: yes, but in here, now, to help me out? :) |
| 20:37.08 | jjazz | debiankid: I hear you. It's a shitty problem. |
| 20:37.13 | plb- | hm anyone here work for a large company |
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| 20:37.47 | stew | Flexy: if you have a specific question, just ask it |
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| 20:38.06 | Drakas | is there any tool that i could use to make a list of .deb files that i need to download and then i would downlad with wget to an HDD? |
| 20:38.08 | seb- | what is easiest way to turn off /etc/init.d services that allows easy reactivation later? |
| 20:38.19 | seb- | renaming scripts in /etc/init.d? |
| 20:38.22 | Drakas | i want to select packages and that automatically their dependencies would be as well |
| 20:38.30 | debiankid | jjazz dont worry im working on it :) |
| 20:38.33 | Drakas | seb- : /etc/rc something |
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| 20:38.44 | seb- | mv /etc/init.d/myservice /etc/init.d/myservice.turnedoff ? |
| 20:38.54 | wajig|sarge | Seb, or insert EXIT 0 in script header after shebang |
| 20:38.58 | beetlepun | seb- man invoke-rc.d and update-rc.d |
| 20:39.12 | Drakas | rc-update remove service |
| 20:39.18 | wajig|sarge | beetlepun, not the clean way *g* |
| 20:39.19 | jjazz | debiankid: Have you looked at <http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto>? You should verify that what's on the dvd is accessible as a repo. I imagine it is, but you should do a quick lookover. |
| 20:39.28 | seb- | Drakas: ahh! but i don't want to *permanently* remove it! |
| 20:39.31 | Flexy | stew: I did allready. I do it now again: I can send message to ICQ friend of mine, but his messages does not come to me. What's the problem, how to fix it? (first time using bitlbee) |
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| 20:39.51 | beetlepun | seb- man is a command (go to shell and try the command man '' ) |
| 20:40.04 | Drakas | seb- rc-update remove service |
| 20:40.09 | Drakas | it will simply remove it from the list? |
| 20:40.21 | stew | Flexy: i haven't heard of that. but its just using gaim underneath, so if gaim works, bitlbee should work |
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| 20:40.28 | stew | Flexy: have you tried any other protocols? |
| 20:40.31 | beetlepun | Drakas, it's actually update-rc.d -f <servicename> remove |
| 20:40.33 | jjazz | Flexy: irc.oftc.net #Bitlbee |
| 20:40.36 | stew | Flexy: are you still logged into icq in some other client? |
| 20:40.49 | Flexy | stew: no, I don't have anyone on other protocols... |
| 20:40.54 | jjazz | Flexy: The bitlbee devs are there. They're quite helpful and friendly. |
| 20:41.05 | Flexy | stew: no, only thru bitlbee |
| 20:41.05 | Drakas | beetlepun ok you are right :) |
| 20:41.13 | tjostolf | seb-: update-rc.d service remove and/or update-rc.d stop |
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| 20:41.17 | Flexy | jjazz: thanks, I'll try that out :) |
| 20:41.23 | jjazz | Flexy: good luck. |
| 20:41.27 | seb- | thanks all |
| 20:41.37 | italy | Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) |
| 20:41.40 | italy | any ideas? |
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| 20:42.10 | streuner | italy: #ubuntu |
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| 20:42.58 | mhall | !lart italy |
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| 20:43.05 | mhall | !tell italy about based on debian |
| 20:43.10 | mhall | !tell italy about ubuntu |
| 20:43.15 | italy | I'm quite aware about ubuntu and debian :| |
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| 20:43.19 | Flexy | jjazz: pretty empty channel that one, only chanserv and me there... |
| 20:43.23 | abrotman | italy: so go ask them |
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| 20:43.27 | italy | ah |
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| 20:43.31 | italy | nothing like annoying bots :) |
| 20:43.37 | troublesome | has anyone here delt with crc errors? |
| 20:43.43 | abrotman | nothing like annoying users |
| 20:43.46 | jjazz | Flexy: irc.oftc.net? And bitlbee is case-sensitive, I think. |
| 20:43.57 | safe | My hard drive was formatted, how to recover all of the files on it? |
| 20:44.04 | mhall | safe: what file system |
| 20:44.09 | jjazz | Flexy: try #BitlBee |
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| 20:44.15 | Flexy | jjazz: ok |
| 20:44.20 | safe | mhall: ntfs |
| 20:44.23 | streuner | troublesome: what kind of? |
| 20:44.24 | Flexy | jjazz: I'm on the correct server thou |
| 20:44.26 | mhall | jjazz: case sens.? evil |
| 20:44.29 | mhall | safe: Get Data Back usu. works |
| 20:44.40 | mhall | safe: first things first. DO NOT FUCK WITH THE DRIVE AT ALL |
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| 20:44.55 | safe | mhall: i don't use it |
| 20:45.00 | mhall | safe: write absolutely nothing onto it, and if you can grab an image of it with dd onto another drive just in case |
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| 20:45.05 | jjazz | mhall: Well, #bitlbee is a fake room on a local bitlbee server for most people, so it makes *some* sense to distinguish it. |
| 20:45.16 | troublesome | streuner: I was trying to boot from a live distro and it hangs. I've burnt an iso 4 times and tried it on more than one system |
| 20:45.27 | Flexy | jjazz: OK, now seems correct, thanks |
| 20:45.31 | streuner | troublesome: #knoppix |
| 20:45.33 | jjazz | Flexy: good |
| 20:45.41 | illsci | I just switched over to testing.. and doing apt-get dist-upgrade is almost done and its failing on udev... it says i need a higher kernel version |
| 20:45.41 | troublesome | streuner: yes |
| 20:45.48 | illsci | and that apt-get -f install will fix it but it doesnt |
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| 20:45.55 | illsci | what can I do to fix this... |
| 20:45.56 | mhall | safe: next up use a BartPE CD with Get Data Back or other tools on it |
| 20:46.06 | mhall | illsci: remove udev |
| 20:46.12 | systemadmin | how i make linakd run when kde starts? |
| 20:46.18 | troublesome | streuner: I didnt get any reply there. |
| 20:46.23 | mhall | !+udev |
| 20:46.23 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
| 20:46.31 | abrotman | illsci: you have to manually download the linux-image-2.6<blahblahblah> and install it |
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| 20:46.36 | troublesome | streuner: I'll keep trying |
| 20:46.41 | illsci | ok... |
| 20:46.41 | Eulex | illsci, get a newer kernel |
| 20:46.46 | quuesstionnerr | When 'gdm' and 'kdm' are not installed, where must we define the environment that we would like to start auto. I would like to start 'Fluxbox' and when i do 'startx', 'xfce4' starts auto. |
| 20:46.56 | Eulex | mhall, umh... remove udev? |
| 20:47.01 | mhall | quuesstionnerr: can you remove xfce4 |
| 20:47.06 | zinx | quuesstionnerr: just put exec foo in ~/.xsession |
| 20:47.14 | Eulex | mhall, that's not a solution |
| 20:47.16 | mhall | Eulex: it's a really bad piece of software, causes my system to fail weirdly |
| 20:47.18 | quuesstionnerr | mhall: I want to leave it, some time i use it. |
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| 20:47.33 | quuesstionnerr | zinx: I look to it, thx ;-) |
| 20:47.34 | jjazz | mhall: maybe you have really bad hardware, because it works fine on my system :P |
| 20:47.37 | illsci | i think i have the newest kernel |
| 20:47.37 | mhall | quuesstionnerr: fair enough, just wanted to ask the obvious to see if i could give a nice quick fix ;-) |
| 20:47.43 | illsci | the kernel-image kernel is the newest |
| 20:47.45 | mhall | jjazz: :-/ |
| 20:47.50 | streuner | troublesome: so you need knoppix to chroot into your debian system? |
| 20:47.51 | illsci | did they change it over to linux-image |
| 20:47.52 | abrotman | illsci: linux-image-blahblbhlbah |
| 20:47.52 | illsci | ? |
| 20:47.53 | quuesstionnerr | mhall: ;-) |
| 20:47.54 | illsci | ahhh ok |
| 20:47.58 | mhall | jjazz: i made settings in its confs files it would honor then ignore after reboot |
| 20:48.04 | Eulex | mhall, still, it's required nowadays. |
| 20:48.14 | mhall | Eulex: that's inexcusable |
| 20:48.21 | mhall | Eulex: who the fuck decided to do that |
| 20:48.26 | troublesome | streuner: I was just checking out the latest release. |
| 20:48.31 | jjazz | mhall: that's annoying. Never had that problem. |
| 20:48.41 | tarzeau | heh |
| 20:48.43 | tarzeau | it's weekend |
| 20:48.45 | tarzeau | LOL |
| 20:48.49 | mhall | jjazz: yeah so then the devices it didn't deign important enough to make would never work |
| 20:48.59 | mhall | jjazz: this meant i got no loopback devices |
| 20:49.04 | tjostolf | quuesstionnerr: se man update-alternatives |
| 20:49.07 | jjazz | mhall: Why would xfce make devices? |
| 20:49.17 | mhall | jjazz: UDEV not xfce |
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| 20:49.38 | jjazz | mhall: Ah, sorry. I thought you were talking about xfce. |
| 20:49.44 | mhall | jjazz: without loopbacks i cannot mount my crypto partitions |
| 20:49.53 | mhall | jjazz: i use xfce on my ultra 10; works fine |
| 20:49.54 | troublesome | streuner: i have a friend that is a little windows savvy but wants to explore linux. I thought he might warm up with a live distro |
| 20:50.08 | jjazz | mhall: Heh. that was one hell of a weird messed up conversation we just had. |
| 20:50.11 | quuesstionnerr | zinx: I not find this file. So i create it ? Right? |
| 20:50.15 | tarzeau | troublesome: try livecd.gnustep.org |
| 20:50.18 | mhall | jjazz: never fucked up on me once, as opposed to udev which never didn't fuck up on me once ;-) |
| 20:50.18 | Eulex | mhall, http://kerneltrap.org/node/1893 |
| 20:50.19 | zinx | quuesstionnerr: yes |
| 20:50.22 | quuesstionnerr | tjostolf: thx ;-) |
| 20:50.33 | troublesome | tarzeau: ok |
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| 20:50.54 | systemadmin | how i make lineakd run when kde starts? i dont see sessions anywhere |
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| 20:51.02 | quuesstionnerr | zinx: And write there 'exec fluxbox' ? |
| 20:51.17 | zinx | quuesstionnerr: yes |
| 20:51.20 | mhall | Eulex: Currently at version 010 [story], though not complete, udev is quite functional. |
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| 20:51.37 | quuesstionnerr | zinx: Done ... Restarting the laptop |
| 20:51.38 | zinx | quuesstionnerr: you may want to put the full path to it (/usr/bin/fluxbox), but it's not required |
| 20:51.42 | mhall | Eulex: bad idea to put it into debian mandatorily if it's admitted to be incomplete |
| 20:51.55 | troublesome | tarzeau: very interesting. |
| 20:51.59 | quuesstionnerr | zinx: Right! ;-) |
| 20:52.04 | mhall | Eulex: also it sucks rotten donkey testes when used on non physical device nodes |
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| 20:52.22 | mhall | Eulex: ex. not honoring my conf. file setup for loop devices |
| 20:52.46 | Eulex | mhall, note that the story is from 2003 |
| 20:52.48 | tarzeau | troublesome: indeed :) i should release a new version... |
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| 20:53.04 | urz | I'm running debian stable. gnome complains about missing xscreensaver. apt-get install xscreensaver says the package is refered to but not available |
| 20:53.16 | streuner | troublesome: why not show him your box? or a screenshot? |
| 20:53.17 | siimo | hi anyone know how to turn off pc speaker beeps in bash shells ? |
| 20:53.26 | urz | where is xscreensaver? |
| 20:53.30 | tarzeau | !beep |
| 20:53.31 | dpkg | i guess beep is /exec -o echo -ne "\007". A generic application level transport, with multiple channels over TCP and a nice standard auth section + many other goodies, see www.beepcore.org for more info, or apt-get install beep, or ^G, or a buggy xmms gtk2 port |
| 20:53.37 | tarzeau | !bell |
| 20:53.38 | dpkg | hmm... bell is "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. or "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc |
| 20:53.46 | tarzeau | siimo: for you |
| 20:54.04 | mhall | Eulex: but it's still broken |
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| 20:54.17 | siimo | tarzeau, thanks |
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| 20:54.38 | dmz | hey y'all...i just upgraded my gnome and it added udev (dependency), but udev screws up a few other devices I have that don't support udev...how can I disable udev? |
| 20:54.44 | tjostolf | quuesstionnerr: se also /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/examples/xsession.gz (sarge) |
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| 20:55.11 | troublesome | streuner: good idea. |
| 20:55.12 | quuesstionnerr | tjostolf: 'Testing' the same case ? |
| 20:55.14 | zinx | dmz: might be better to report that udev doesn't support said devices |
| 20:55.35 | bwlang | i'm putting together a diskless print server... anybody know of a cd based distro for that - or do i have to roll my own... |
| 20:55.36 | tjostolf | quuesstionnerr: don't know |
| 20:55.38 | quuesstionnerr | tjostolf: I take it for my other 'Stable' |
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| 20:55.41 | dmz | zinx i can do that but until they are fixed (pvr 500, mythtv is broken til then...) |
| 20:56.00 | quuesstionnerr | tjostolf: I look on it. thx for the additionals info, really '-) |
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| 20:56.07 | quuesstionnerr | tjostolf: ;-) |
| 20:56.10 | mhall | dmz: well you can't because whoever put it in debian seems to have made it required |
| 20:56.38 | nemesis | hi to all, somebody has installed pop-before-smtp for relay in postfix ? |
| 20:56.51 | mhall | dmz: if it becomes mandatory in KDE i swear to god i'll dump the distro i've known and loved since 1998 and switch to $OTHER_DISTRO |
| 20:56.52 | dmz | mhall i find it hard to believe there is no way to disable it |
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| 20:57.02 | i3dmaster | got a weird problem. when I was tring to change an app icon in panel to a customized icon (not from /usr/share/pixmaps but say from my home dir), everything is grayed out and I can't pick any files. |
| 20:57.05 | mhall | dmz: well for one you need a non-debian kernel |
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| 20:57.12 | mhall | dmz: because the debian ones have it as a dep |
| 20:57.24 | dmz | again, i'd think there is a boot option i could use to disableit |
| 20:57.28 | mhall | dmz: i run with a non debian kernel to avoid udev and initrd both of which are slow, and one of which is hideous |
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| 20:57.34 | dmz | and just because udev is there doesn't mean it needs to mount /dev/ |
| 20:57.37 | mhall | dmz: it's fucked up! it's a user space daemon |
| 20:57.43 | mhall | dmz: can you purge it? |
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| 20:57.52 | dmz | no it has "dependencies" |
| 20:57.57 | mhall | dmz: worse comes to worse, rape it's /etc/init.d script |
| 20:58.01 | mhall | dmz: what depends on it |
| 20:58.10 | mhall | !tell me about depends |
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| 20:58.30 | italy | hmm |
| 20:58.43 | italy | how do I remove sources list? |
| 20:58.47 | italy | not source.list |
| 20:58.56 | italy | but the actual package list |
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| 20:58.59 | illsci | whereis is the .debs in the debian mirror tree |
| 20:59.11 | markybob | illsci: pool |
| 20:59.21 | mhall | dmz: let's see |
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| 20:59.35 | mhall | dmz: try looking at the reverse depends list and see who needs it |
| 20:59.36 | bartden | hi, i have a problem with alsa, i installed alsa through the kernel, installed alsa-base, and utils and stuff,runned alsaconf, all works fine, i have sound so i did a alsactl store , but when i reboot i dont have any sound anymore, so i have to run alsaconf again, any idea's |
| 20:59.46 | mhall | !nickometer x1\3 |
| 20:59.48 | dpkg | 'x1\3' is 45.000% lame, mhall |
| 21:00.18 | dmz | !nickometer dmz |
| 21:00.18 | abrotman | are you loading OSS drivers? |
| 21:00.19 | dpkg | 'dmz' is 0.000% lame, dmz |
| 21:00.22 | dmz | :) |
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| 21:00.30 | valdyn | bartden: in which debian release? |
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| 21:00.55 | letters_happy | !nickometer letters_happy |
| 21:00.57 | dpkg | 'letters_happy' is 14.000% lame, letters_happy |
| 21:01.05 | quuesstionnerr | zinx: It work fine you're tip, but the 'startup' file of 'Fluxbox' are no more executed, so some apps no start auto when 'Fluxbox' start. But i read the info that you give and also tjostolf. So im on the right way :-) and it there comme an solution |
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| 21:02.10 | justletters | token calculation :( soo does anyone know how to verify which processor, soundcard etc i am using? |
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| 21:02.36 | justletters | is /bin/cat and the stuff in /proc all i need? : |
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| 21:02.49 | valdyn | justletters: cat /proc/cpuinfo, lspci |
| 21:02.50 | repp | justletters: cat /proc/cpuinfo; lspci |
| 21:02.59 | kspath | lsusb |
| 21:03.01 | justletters | heh |
| 21:03.04 | Silent_al | hi, stupid question, but : i downloaded et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run , how do i run it exactly? =\ |
| 21:03.13 | abrotman | ./<file> |
| 21:03.18 | abrotman | might have to chmod it first |
| 21:03.20 | markybob | Silent_al: try sh et-linux-foo.run |
| 21:03.25 | adii | i got a prob : i need to compile wine with --enable-opengl. as a debianer i've installed wine with apt-get install wine. how can i make opengl enabled ? |
| 21:03.28 | justletters | okayiloveyou. i got in homework to do it in microsoft Windows! Hah |
| 21:03.30 | valdyn | Silent_al: chmod +x that.run; runit |
| 21:03.35 | Silent_al | markybob, thanx :) |
| 21:03.44 | Silent_al | valdyn, thanx |
| 21:03.44 | mhall | justletters: Windows-Pause Key |
| 21:03.44 | siimo | Silent_al, theres 2.6 available FYI |
| 21:04.05 | resiak | adii: apt-get build-dep wine; apt-get source gaim; modify the call to ./configure; make a new .deb, install it, put it on hold. |
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| 21:04.35 | adii | resiak : ok but why "gaim" ? |
| 21:04.38 | valdyn | adii: why do you think debian's wine was not opengl enabled? |
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| 21:04.44 | resiak | adii: Argh, sorry, I'm on crack. |
| 21:04.55 | markybob | adii: he obviously meant wine :) |
| 21:04.55 | resiak | adii: I meant wine. I've got gaim on the brain |
| 21:05.20 | XTF | Hi. Why are home dirs world-readable in a default install? |
| 21:05.24 | adii | valdyn, cos libgl is missing, as well as many other files known |
| 21:05.34 | markybob | resiak: am i alone in wishing that gaim had an ssh plugin? |
| 21:05.38 | adii | (known to be installed with --opengl) , if i ain't totally wrong |
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| 21:05.57 | tuxillo | anyone has some kind of problems with DVD burning under linux???? |
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| 21:05.59 | zinx | adii: debian wine supports opengl, your system is busted. |
| 21:06.10 | markybob | tuxillo: really. please. ask a real question |
| 21:06.15 | markybob | !ask |
| 21:06.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 21:06.37 | zinx | adii: try apt-get install libwine-gl |
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| 21:06.43 | tuxillo | markybob: generic question ina a 800+ persons channel could act like a broadcast :D |
| 21:06.52 | adii | zinx already done :x |
| 21:07.00 | markybob | tuxillo: no. it makes people /ignore you |
| 21:07.02 | zinx | adii: your system is busted :D |
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| 21:07.12 | relic | ? |
| 21:07.16 | mhall | !tell tuxillo about poll |
| 21:07.17 | valdyn | adii: debians wine package depends on libwine, which in turn depends on one of 2 alternative gl packages |
| 21:07.19 | zinx | adii: libwine-gl depends on GL libraries |
| 21:07.22 | tuxillo | markybob: I'm in trouble with my dvd writer, it burns DVDs at 1x instead 16x :( |
| 21:07.23 | justletters | mhall: what's that? |
| 21:07.27 | mhall | tuxillo: this is a noisy fuckin place, please don't make it worse |
| 21:07.30 | mhall | justletters: what's which |
| 21:07.40 | tuxillo | mhall: Im sorry |
| 21:07.43 | zinx | adii: if you don't have them, something managed to get screwed up really bad |
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| 21:07.47 | adii | so i should have installed libwine-gl before installing wine ? |
| 21:07.59 | hans0lo | My upgrade to kernel 2.6.15 on etch failed miserably. I had to get 2.6.12 back on for my system to boot. Anyone having the same issue? |
| 21:08.01 | mhall | tuxillo: it's ok i was just explaining why we do stuff the way that we do |
| 21:08.09 | adii | zinx : that's what i thought yesterday, so i came up with a fresh install ... and same thing happened |
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| 21:08.12 | zinx | adii: apt handles dependencies, so that won't make much difference, no |
| 21:08.17 | quuesstionnerr | tjostolf: Really thanks for the last tip, verry usefull :-) |
| 21:08.20 | mhall | !tell hans0lo about doesn't work |
| 21:08.21 | markybob | hans0lo: you probably had some udev problems. am i right? |
| 21:08.34 | mhall | markybob: :-D why did they make that hunk of shit mandatory |
| 21:08.43 | tuxillo | mhall: thank you :) |
| 21:08.46 | valdyn | adii: you could just run 'ldd /usr/bin/wine' i guess |
| 21:08.46 | mhall | markybob: it's horribly broken and won't even honor my conf file settings |
| 21:08.48 | tjostolf | quuesstionnerr: fine! |
| 21:08.49 | markybob | mhall: couldnt tell ya :) |
| 21:08.55 | resiak | markybob: an ssh plugin for gaim... why? what? |
| 21:08.57 | zinx | adii: usually missing libraries can only happen if 1) there's a package bug, or 2) you used a --force-* option |
| 21:09.03 | mhall | markybob: that has got to be the worst decision in the history of debian |
| 21:09.10 | hans0lo | markybob: I remember seeing something about udev when it was starting. What is that? |
| 21:09.15 | justletters | mhall: windows-pause key. what did you mean. or better. know how to get a nice sources.list? mine is badd and pretty empty :( |
| 21:09.15 | mhall | markybob: one guy said they made it mandatory in GNOME |
| 21:09.16 | adii | valdyn, /usr/bin/ldd: line 161: /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: cannot execute binary file |
| 21:09.16 | adii | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.20 | adii | ops sorry |
| 21:09.32 | zinx | adii: that's not debian |
| 21:09.39 | mhall | markybob: if they do it to KDE i swear i'll never use debian again |
| 21:09.40 | adii | i'm pretty sure it is :p |
| 21:09.42 | tuxillo | so is here anyone who can explain me speed troubles with DVD burnin under linux using growisofs under k3b, please? thank you! |
| 21:09.46 | valdyn | cd / |
| 21:09.46 | valdyn | ls |
| 21:09.48 | zinx | adii: debian doesn't have /lib64 |
| 21:09.54 | mhall | tuxillo: yeah i had this problem |
| 21:10.08 | mhall | tuxillo: some versions of the 2.6 kernel seem to really fuck up for me when i try to burn DVDs |
| 21:10.15 | valdyn | adii: debian/ amd64 has no wine at all |
| 21:10.20 | mhall | tuxillo: also please check if perhaps you have bad media |
| 21:10.24 | markybob | mhall: mandatory in gnome probably for mounting things automatically, like usb keys, etc. it's understandable, especially for newbies, but it can be a pain in the ass |
| 21:10.25 | adii | this is no amd 64 argh |
| 21:10.28 | mhall | tuxillo: and whether your IDE interfaces are PIO |
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| 21:10.39 | zinx | adii: me too :) |
| 21:10.41 | mhall | markybob: but making it a dep instead of a suggestes is a very evil deed |
| 21:10.43 | valdyn | adii: so its a emt64 ? |
| 21:10.53 | tuxillo | mhall: did you fix that problem? i'm running old 2.6.15-1 ;-) |
| 21:10.55 | adii | this is a pentium 4 :x |
| 21:10.57 | resiak | markybob: Seriously, an ssh plugin for gaim? |
| 21:10.57 | mhall | markybob: because when it breaks, it brings down your box |
| 21:10.58 | adii | i386 i think |
| 21:11.12 | mhall | tuxillo: yeah i didn't ever quite figure out whether it was my drive or my kernel |
| 21:11.21 | mhall | tuxillo: and i googled but couldn't get a lot of info |
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| 21:11.36 | mhall | tuxillo: is it possible for you to help me figure it out by trying some more kernels? |
| 21:11.48 | markybob | resiak: most think i'm on crack for liking the idea, but yeah. mostly because at work i'm stuck in windows and it pisses me off to have a ton of programs open, so i use gaim for irc and IM. might as well make it the swiss army knife and use it for ssh :) |
| 21:11.51 | mhall | tuxillo: i always figured maybe my drive was being dumb |
| 21:12.19 | mhall | markybob: just reuse the putty libs |
| 21:12.20 | resiak | markybob: I'm in the "you're on crack" group. |
| 21:12.22 | resiak | :-) |
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| 21:12.31 | markybob | resiak: that's ok, i'm used to it :) |
| 21:12.32 | mhall | markybob: this is what almost everybody does when they write SSH plugin on win |
| 21:12.37 | hans0lo | markybob: DO you know whatI need to do with udev to get 2.6.15 to boot? |
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| 21:12.42 | adii | i'm running etch with a 2.6.12-1-686-smp kernel. is there something wrong with that ? |
| 21:12.57 | markybob | hans0lo: i havent been paying attention. did you install the udev package? |
| 21:12.59 | mhall | adii: if you don't need smp it's kind of dumb |
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| 21:13.03 | bartden | valdyn debian sid |
| 21:13.05 | mhall | adii: but otherwise no big deal |
| 21:13.10 | hans0lo | markybob: let me check |
| 21:13.20 | mhall | hans0lo: dpkg --get-selections | grep udev |
| 21:13.22 | tuxillo | mhall: hehe, i'm googlin too but there's pretty trash info about everything but what I'm looking for :D |
| 21:13.26 | zinx | adii: it's other packages than the kernel, most likely |
| 21:13.34 | mhall | tuxillo: yeah no kidding i have this same misery bro |
| 21:13.38 | hans0lo | markybob: yes, it's installed |
| 21:13.46 | streuner | hans0lo: what error did you get? |
| 21:13.49 | mhall | tuxillo: i looked all over like a motherfucker and i'm no unix idiot either |
| 21:13.54 | zinx | adii: you may have some weird stuff in your sources.list, but it shouldn't do what it's doing even then, unless you have some *really* weird stuff there |
| 21:14.02 | markybob | hans0lo: which version? |
| 21:14.04 | hans0lo | streuner: "Cannot open root device "hda2" |
| 21:14.04 | mhall | tuxillo: i noticed whatever problem was also making my cd burner flake out |
| 21:14.05 | quuesstionnerr | tjostolf: '/usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/examples/xsession.gz' are been there in 'Stable', but in 'Testing' these are not there because default he use there 'xorg'. Is there an alternative way to find it on 'Testing'. Just curious, the other one have help me enougth to understand it |
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| 21:14.07 | Llamabutcher | hey guys, i just installed etch and im trying to get my desktop into 1024x768, it wont let me do it in the desktop menu, and i tried to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 21:14.07 | Llamabutcher | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.08 | tuxillo | mhall: http://k3b.plainblack.com/message-board/growisofs-speed-error |
| 21:14.12 | valdyn | bartden: you should probably have udev installed, you should defenitely have linux-sound-base installed. If you dont have udev / hotplug or discover(1) installed you need to add your alsa driver to /etc/modules |
| 21:14.14 | mhall | tuxillo: so finally i disconnected the mother fucker |
| 21:14.14 | zinx | adii: in any case, some odd and broken packages have somehow been installed |
| 21:14.19 | hans0lo | markybob: 0.081-1 |
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| 21:14.25 | streuner | hans0lo: custom kernel? |
| 21:14.40 | hans0lo | streuner: no, etch release of the kernel |
| 21:14.42 | bartden | valdyn i have them loading through /etc/modules |
| 21:14.45 | adii | zinx i got marillat and that's all |
| 21:14.52 | hans0lo | streuner: the k7-smp variety |
| 21:14.55 | bartden | valdyn if i have hotplug do i need udev also ? |
| 21:14.59 | adii | actually i think my cpu is using smp |
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| 21:15.07 | markybob | hans0lo: do you have initramfs-tools installed? |
| 21:15.09 | tuxillo | mhall: well, with this drive it seems to be a growisofs problem, but I'm running sarge so probably there's no upgrade :( |
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| 21:15.14 | quuesstionnerr | tjostolf: Otherwise i write one by the hands. It's because on the top of these file, there are noted that we can use an default one. |
| 21:15.15 | mhall | tuxillo: this seems like it could be part of my problem |
| 21:15.19 | valdyn | bartden: no |
| 21:15.22 | mhall | !tell tuxillo about backports |
| 21:15.27 | mhall | !tell tuxillo easy sarge backport |
| 21:15.28 | zinx | adii: which marillat? :D |
| 21:15.31 | hans0lo | markybob: yes, v0.51 |
| 21:15.37 | LSchiere2 | markybob: what would an ssh prpl look like‽ |
| 21:15.44 | adii | zinx : deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main |
| 21:15.51 | streuner | hans0lo: is there something in BTS about? |
| 21:15.51 | zinx | adii: dunno then |
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| 21:16.04 | tuxillo | mhall: don't like backports bro! :D |
| 21:16.05 | mrverbose | i have copied my debian from one harddisk to another |
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| 21:16.08 | hans0lo | streuner: I'm not followig you. What is BTS? |
| 21:16.11 | mrverbose | how can i get grub installed now? |
| 21:16.15 | mhall | !tell tuxillo about simple sid backport |
| 21:16.30 | mhall | tuxillo: well i don't like them either so i run sid + experimental :-D |
| 21:16.31 | jade | trying to print to an HP Officejet 7310 all in one network printer. I installed packages hplip, and hpoj, cups and foomatic. was able to print a test page via cups web interface. how can i print to this printer via commandline? |
| 21:16.31 | streuner | hans0lo: /msg dpkg bts |
| 21:16.41 | mhall | tuxillo: but then again i'm a crazy mother fucker |
| 21:16.50 | valdyn | jade: apt-get install cupsys-bsd |
| 21:16.55 | streuner | mrverbose: apt-get install grub? |
| 21:16.58 | tuxillo | mhall: hahahaha, that's funny x-D |
| 21:17.02 | markybob | LSchiere2: i couldnt even begin to tell you, if you're asking code-wise. |
| 21:17.03 | mhall | tuxillo: and true |
| 21:17.10 | tuxillo | mhall: where are you from? |
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| 21:17.26 | mhall | tuxillo: left coast of the USA |
| 21:17.33 | hans0lo | streuner: Ok, gotcha, I'll look into the bugs list |
| 21:17.34 | mhall | tuxillo: stockton, california |
| 21:17.35 | adii | is there a way for the problem to come from a flawed installation of nvidia modules ? |
| 21:17.50 | mhall | adii: one could argue every install of nvidia is a flawed install :-D |
| 21:17.50 | valdyn | adii: you didnt tell us what really your problem is |
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| 21:18.07 | mrverbose | streuner: grub is installed i need to get it into mbr of the new harddisk |
| 21:18.08 | adii | whall : lol |
| 21:18.14 | tuxillo | mhall: hehe, right part of the world, Spain. Gasol will tear down everything ! :) |
| 21:18.18 | wireddd | is there a piece of software that can extract a .daa cd image? |
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| 21:18.32 | wireddd | that doesn't require windows |
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| 21:19.07 | markybob | LSchiere2: we all have boxes that we're always ssh'd into. it'd be nice if that could be one of gaim's auto-login and have a session pop up. |
| 21:19.16 | adii | valdyn, my problem is that i can't have opengl softs (such as steam) work with wine. it returns "opengl32.dll missing". |
| 21:19.17 | mhall | tuxillo: lol |
| 21:19.28 | streuner | hans0lo: well, i have no idea about grub, but in lilo you would just chroot it and run lilo itself |
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| 21:20.25 | tuxillo | mhall: do you know that? :D |
| 21:20.51 | adii | that's the bare problem. i've looked up sites, and i discovered that it could come from wine's libopengl.so (and similar files) missing. |
| 21:20.53 | markybob | LSchiere2: look like a chat room. the list of users could be who's logged into the server ( `w` ) |
| 21:21.11 | markybob | LSchiere2: you could even get 'talk' involved so you can chat with those other users |
| 21:21.12 | streuner | mrverbose: well, i have no idea about grub, but in lilo you would just chroot it and run lilo itself |
| 21:21.17 | hans0lo | streuner: Well, This is the odd part. I went to edit mode in grub and changed hda2 to sda2, and it looked like it was going to boot into my system, but gave me an ash shell on a very basic filesystem. I was able to mount /dev/hda2 and edit some files. |
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| 21:21.39 | mhall | tuxillo: who is Gasol? |
| 21:21.45 | mrverbose | streuner: that fails for grub on my box |
| 21:21.52 | illsci | which should I use initramfs-tools | linux-initrafms-tool | yaird |
| 21:21.53 | illsci | ? |
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| 21:22.04 | streuner | mrverbose: just install lilo ;-) |
| 21:22.14 | mhall | illsci: yaird is preferred |
| 21:22.14 | mrverbose | streuner: grub is way more enhanced |
| 21:22.29 | ateoh211 | anyone have any quick tips to getting x configured on a powebook g4 15 inch? |
| 21:22.29 | streuner | hm, but it didn't work for you :-/ |
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| 21:22.50 | mhall | ateoh211: yeah i do |
| 21:22.56 | streuner | mrverbose: one thing is in linux very important, to know 'his' bootloader... |
| 21:22.59 | tuxillo | mhall: basket player in Grizzlies. http://www.nba.com/playerfile/pau_gasol/index.html?nav=page |
| 21:23.00 | mhall | ateoh211: here is what i can tell you from my experience |
| 21:23.14 | mhall | ateoh211: apple uses extremely fucked up modelines on their screens |
| 21:23.18 | italy | HEY GUYS |
| 21:23.20 | tuxillo | mhall: but I prefer soccer because it's more amazing sport here in Eurpe |
| 21:23.25 | tuxillo | Europe* |
| 21:23.32 | mhall | ateoh211: start out by setting vertical refresh to 60 in x conf file |
| 21:23.33 | italy | GUESS WHAT I JUST DID |
| 21:23.33 | italy | rm -rf lists / instead of rm -rf lists/ |
| 21:23.33 | italy | THERE GOES ALL MY SHIT FOLKS |
| 21:23.47 | markybob | LSchiere2: yeah. there's a reason why i had never mentioned it to gaim guys. i realize most would hate even the idea of it. it's just one of my crazy wishes in life :) |
| 21:23.49 | invsblduck | good |
| 21:23.55 | italy | ALL MY IPOD MUSIC |
| 21:23.56 | hans0lo | italy: no backup?? shite |
| 21:24.02 | invsblduck | bye bye / |
| 21:24.09 | ateoh211 | mhall: I'm at the last day on the job here, so as a joke, I'm leaving my powerbook with linux - hopefully |
| 21:24.31 | markybob | italy: pretty impressive that you're still signed on after rm -rf / |
| 21:24.43 | abrotman | markybob: stuff loaded into RAM ? |
| 21:24.45 | hans0lo | italy: a quick shell script with tar will save your ass next time |
| 21:24.45 | jade | valdyn: SWEET THANKS |
| 21:24.54 | invsblduck | markybob: cuz it's not a different machine or anything |
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| 21:24.56 | tvee | hi |
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| 21:25.14 | tvee | how do i know which device file is used for my usb device? |
| 21:25.17 | invsblduck | tvee: guess what italy just did (the freenode user, not the country)? |
| 21:25.23 | mhall | ateoh211: if this fails, you must move to slightly more drastic choice |
| 21:25.37 | mhall | ateoh211: your next choice is googling up modelines |
| 21:25.38 | markybob | tvee: tail your syslog when you plug it in? lsusb ? |
| 21:25.49 | mhall | ateoh211: but first start by setting vertrefresh to 60 |
| 21:25.49 | hans0lo | Does anyone in here use GnomeICU? Starting this moring, it won't stay connected for more than 60 seconds. |
| 21:26.00 | mhall | ateoh211: and see if X can autodetect the right res using that |
| 21:26.04 | italy | markybob, different PC |
| 21:26.13 | mhall | ateoh211: also make sure you tell X the right X Y dimensions |
| 21:26.21 | tvee | markybob, dmesg, does not show it, lsusb doesn't lists the device file |
| 21:26.21 | mhall | ateoh211: apple screen resolutions can be odd |
| 21:26.23 | invsblduck | italy: hold up: was it your ipod "library" that itunes uses? |
| 21:26.49 | italy | i can recover it |
| 21:27.05 | invsblduck | italy: if you have an ipod and your songs are somewhere else, then :P~ |
| 21:27.07 | mhall | ateoh211: i got one working with these methods |
| 21:27.12 | mhall | ateoh211: good luck with them |
| 21:27.14 | italy | just jesus christ |
| 21:27.14 | italy | I just wanna die or something |
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| 21:27.23 | mhall | illsci: i'm sure it can be arranged |
| 21:27.28 | mhall | italy: i'm sure it can be arranged |
| 21:27.34 | markybob | tvee: tail syslog |
| 21:27.35 | mhall | italy: especially with a nickname like italy |
| 21:27.47 | invsblduck | italy: we all wanna die and go home to Jesus, but He still has plans for us yet :) |
| 21:27.54 | markybob | oh wow |
| 21:28.05 | invsblduck | markybob: oh, sorry :P |
| 21:28.06 | resiak | italy: Why were you root? |
| 21:28.21 | tvee | tvee, syslog does record that the device is loaded etc, but doesn't list which device file it's using, btw it's a Input device |
| 21:29.03 | Charminthemoose | goodbye everyone |
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| 21:29.07 | abrotman | it was just ubuntu that italy killed right? |
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| 21:30.01 | italy | resiak, i like root because it's powerful therefore i'm always root |
| 21:30.14 | resiak | italy: You're either trolling or a fool. *plonk* |
| 21:30.15 | invsblduck | italy: hahaha, you're funny |
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| 21:30.54 | mhall | invsblduck: that was a quality Christian response; props even from me (atheist over here ;-) |
| 21:31.03 | mhall | invsblduck: was it a troll or intentional? |
| 21:31.04 | invsblduck | mhall: i was waiting for it! |
| 21:31.05 | abrotman | italy: you killed ubuntu .. this is a good thing .. go have a beer |
| 21:31.21 | mhall | abrotman: :-D it had to be said |
| 21:31.50 | mhall | and finds it to be in a rut of select() read() alarm() ... |
| 21:32.01 | mhall | invsblduck: ? |
| 21:32.06 | abrotman | i guess better than sleep() :) |
| 21:32.08 | adii | how to create a .deb file from a source ? |
| 21:32.17 | stew | adii: /msg dpkg mg |
| 21:32.17 | italy | seriously |
| 21:32.18 | mhall | invsblduck: yes i'm one of the stranger and more prolific users in #d |
| 21:32.28 | adii | ok |
| 21:32.37 | invsblduck | italy: you're the type of user that needs a file named '-i' in every directory on your filesystem (: |
| 21:32.48 | mhall | abrotman: there's a counter in its select call which decrements at at rate of about 1 per sec |
| 21:32.49 | invsblduck | for when you do rm -rf * ;) |
| 21:32.51 | italy | that's a good t-shirt idea |
| 21:32.56 | mhall | abrotman: and it has ~1000 on it :-( |
| 21:33.05 | mhall | abrotman: i'm wondering what it does when it gets to zero |
| 21:33.09 | mhall | abrotman: it might explain something |
| 21:33.11 | jade | italy: give up coffee for awhile. |
| 21:33.24 | mhall | abrotman: but if i do this into a log i'll end up with megabytes of dumb crap |
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| 21:34.11 | mhall | abrotman: any ideas? |
| 21:34.28 | stew | mhall: strace ... 2>&1 | egrep -v (select|read|alarm) > logfile |
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| 21:34.56 | mhall | stew: i have gigs free |
| 21:35.03 | mhall | stew: maybe i'll filter afterwards |
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| 21:35.15 | mhall | stew: in case the 0 causes something weird i wouldn't want to filter out |
| 21:35.17 | Petaris | I did a dist-upgrade yesterday and now udev does not update /dev |
| 21:35.20 | abrotman | mhall: i don't even know your problem :) |
| 21:35.29 | Petaris | grr |
| 21:35.30 | Petaris | brb |
| 21:35.37 | mhall | abrotman: there is some infinite loop in X which consumes lots of CPU |
| 21:35.44 | abrotman | mhall: KDE ? |
| 21:35.46 | mhall | abrotman: apparently it came in with 6.9 |
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| 21:35.59 | black_ | somebody can help me to configure nautilus |
| 21:36.01 | mhall | abrotman: so i'm sdning, trying to see what 6.8 does so i can get a baseline |
| 21:36.04 | abrotman | mhall: i'm not on 6.9 yet . |
| 21:36.08 | mhall | abrotman: and use that to try to decipher 6.9 |
| 21:36.11 | black_ | where is the preferences file of nautilus in debian? |
| 21:37.07 | quitte | im trying to crosscompile a kernel image with make-kpkg. but the best result i got so far is:"I cannot figure out where the kernel image goes to[kimagedest undefined] |
| 21:37.10 | mhall | black_: find ~ -iname \*nautilus\* -print |
| 21:37.26 | mhall | black_: find /etc -iname \*nautilus\* -print |
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| 21:38.05 | stew | mhall: tried ltrace? |
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| 21:38.09 | tarzeau | amsn says: Picture.tcl: TkCximage not loaded |
| 21:38.11 | mhall | stew: ltrace? |
| 21:38.30 | stew | !info ltrace |
| 21:38.52 | abrotman | it's not a package |
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| 21:39.03 | streuner | !nickometer `o_^|Away |
| 21:39.04 | abrotman | mhall: instead of system call strace .. library trac |
| 21:39.04 | dpkg | '`o_^|Away' is 99.730% lame, streuner |
| 21:39.05 | abrotman | mhall: instead of system call strace .. library trace |
| 21:39.46 | abrotman | oh .. i didn't tihnk it was a package .. it is |
| 21:39.58 | abrotman | ltrace - Tracks runtime library calls in dynamically linked programs |
| 21:40.03 | abrotman | dpkg: you're slow |
| 21:40.15 | hans0lo | I'm getting a message on boot-up "/etc/network/options is depreciated" -- does this mean that I need to delete the file? |
| 21:40.19 | streuner | dpkg, hi |
| 21:40.19 | dpkg | que tal |
| 21:40.22 | streuner | hm |
| 21:40.32 | streuner | or that package doesn't exist? |
| 21:40.48 | streuner | in sid? |
| 21:40.52 | vulture | "deprecated", not "depreciated".. |
| 21:40.52 | stew | it does |
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| 21:41.19 | XTF | Hi. Why are home dirs world-readable in a default install? |
| 21:41.20 | zinx | hans0lo: did you read the changelog / news for the package? |
| 21:41.23 | stew | hans0lo: it means if you are acutally using that file for anything you should probably switch to using sysctl.conf instead |
| 21:41.25 | Petaris | back |
| 21:41.29 | quitte | ugh! the problem is that sh3 is not supported by kernel-package |
| 21:41.37 | ft | hans0lo: /usr/share/doc/netbase/README.Debian |
| 21:41.38 | stew | XTF: they aren't, you were asked. dpkg-reconfigure adduser |
| 21:42.11 | XTF | stew: Doesn't the default answer to that question result in world readable directories? |
| 21:42.11 | Petaris | Anyone know why udev would no longer update /dev |
| 21:42.15 | hans0lo | tks guys |
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| 21:43.03 | Mike3 | can someone tell me the command to show me my line speed (10/100) and my duplex mode? |
| 21:43.14 | streuner | Petaris: using what branch? |
| 21:43.14 | zinx | Mike3: mii-tool |
| 21:43.23 | Petaris | streuner: testing |
| 21:43.33 | streuner | Petaris: hm, and what does BTS say about? |
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| 21:43.48 | Mike3 | zinx, awesome thank you |
| 21:43.50 | Petaris | streuner: BTS? |
| 21:43.58 | streuner | Petaris: /msg dpkg bts |
| 21:44.34 | stew | XTF: no, the default answer is not to have world readable home directories |
| 21:44.48 | hans0lo | Does anyone know what spoofprotect is for in /etc/network/options (should I bother updating sysctl.conf?) |
| 21:45.35 | XTF | hans0lo: Isn't that to prevent using from: localhost over the network? |
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| 21:47.03 | NaufraGo | wich is the best program to download mp3, video, etc. ? |
| 21:47.22 | hans0lo | NaufraGo: wget! ;) |
| 21:47.45 | sifi-xz | NaufraGo, Bittorent, wget, ftp? |
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| 21:47.59 | NaufraGo | wget I think |
| 21:48.02 | hans0lo | XTF: That would make sense from the name.. I wonder if it's automagically implemented tho.. |
| 21:48.03 | XTF | stew: Are you sure? I've got multiple systems with world readable home dirs and can't remember choosing the non-default. |
| 21:48.12 | NaufraGo | something like imesh, kazaa, etc |
| 21:48.14 | sifi-xz | NaufraGo, why?, for which protocol? |
| 21:48.17 | Petaris | streuner: Only one unrelated bug listed fro udev 0.084-3 |
| 21:48.26 | illsci | hey whats a .udeb? |
| 21:48.34 | streuner | !udeb |
| 21:48.34 | dpkg | udebs are microdebs, "regular debian packages that are not policy compliant. They are used by the new debian-installer project, to build up the actual system that then installs debian." -- thus spake Joey Hess, the great debian genius |
| 21:48.35 | hans0lo | XTF: my default was world readable. But my system is old sarge upgraded to etch -- dunno if that makes a difference |
| 21:48.36 | abrotman | illsci: micro deb |
| 21:48.44 | sifi-xz | NaufraGo, p2p, then Bittorent is you friend |
| 21:48.52 | streuner | Petaris: file a bug |
| 21:49.00 | stew | XTF: oh i misread the .postinst, db_get adduser/homedir-permission || RET="true" <- yes its world readable by default |
| 21:49.00 | sifi-xz | NaufraGo, or dctc |
| 21:49.12 | NaufraGo | mm |
| 21:49.19 | moi | hey, i am searching for a typing tutor. i already type with all my ten fingers, but maybe not every character with the correct finger. |
| 21:49.24 | XTF | stew: Do you know why? |
| 21:49.25 | NaufraGo | what's Bittorent about? |
| 21:49.30 | pipeline | NaufraGo: Piracy. |
| 21:49.31 | streuner | Petaris: just get a former deb and install it in the meantime |
| 21:49.34 | sifi-xz | NaufraGo, dctc is for the DC protocol and Bittorent is for the torrent protocol |
| 21:49.46 | pipeline | NaufraGo: It's a way to distribute large files to lots of people at once. |
| 21:49.55 | pipeline | NaufraGo: "large files" are usually movies or software. |
| 21:50.00 | Petaris | streuner: Where might I find an earlier version? |
| 21:50.01 | NaufraGo | by http? |
| 21:50.12 | moi | NaufraGo, it's a sharing technic |
| 21:50.17 | streuner | Petaris: in your cache? |
| 21:50.40 | stew | XTF: because the maintainer thought that was better |
| 21:50.53 | NaufraGo | mm I don't want to download software and movies really |
| 21:50.56 | illsci | im starting to hate debian |
| 21:50.58 | sifi-xz | !tell NaufraGo about dctc |
| 21:50.58 | illsci | this is so gay |
| 21:50.58 | XTF | stew: Obviously. :) |
| 21:50.58 | stew | XTF: if you don't like the default dpkg-reconfigure adduser ; or edit /etc/adduser.conf |
| 21:51.00 | NaufraGo | I want to download mp3 |
| 21:51.07 | illsci | apt-get screwed me when i went to testing... |
| 21:51.09 | sifi-xz | !tell NaufraGo about bittorent |
| 21:51.16 | stew | XTF: if you think it is a bad default, file a wishlist bug |
| 21:51.17 | XTF | stew: I opt for a bug report. |
| 21:51.19 | illsci | and now i have to manually install the kernel-image.deb so i can get udev on here |
| 21:51.31 | illsci | and that sort of worked... yaird and the linux-image are installed |
| 21:51.33 | illsci | but it doesnt boot |
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| 21:51.38 | illsci | so i must be missing something else... |
| 21:51.43 | illsci | and ihave no way to tell what it is |
| 21:51.56 | thingfish | gosh, that's too bad - all's fine here in sarge-land. |
| 21:52.08 | illsci | yeah but your running 2 year old code |
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| 21:52.19 | illsci | i want the newest stuff... |
| 21:52.19 | d0rt | illsci -- why did you use apt-get instead of aptitude? |
| 21:52.25 | NaufraGo | so, well, what app do you recommend me? |
| 21:52.26 | illsci | cus i suck |
| 21:52.30 | illsci | i didnt think about it |
| 21:52.49 | illsci | i always use apt-get... |
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| 21:53.02 | d0rt | i'm not positive it would have helped, but i think aptitude is recommended these days instead of apt-get |
| 21:53.13 | sifi-xz | NaufraGo, apt-get install bittornado |
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| 21:53.41 | NaufraGo | is it good to dwnld mp3s? |
| 21:53.50 | illsci | i dont know what else to do at this point |
| 21:53.53 | sifi-xz | NaufraGo, btdownloadcurses --responsefile /SOURCE to use it |
| 21:53.59 | illsci | apt-get -f install trys to install udev and that fails |
| 21:54.02 | karthik | Can someone please help with an ndiswrapper issue with Realtek 8185 wlan chipset? |
| 21:54.06 | illsci | it says to get into a newer kernel |
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| 21:54.14 | abrotman | illsci: i told oyu how to fix it |
| 21:54.15 | illsci | i installed the kernel but it doesnt boot |
| 21:54.22 | illsci | abrotman i installed that kernel |
| 21:54.22 | abrotman | the new kernel doesn't boot ? |
| 21:54.26 | illsci | no it doest |
| 21:54.27 | abrotman | why not?> |
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| 21:54.29 | karthik | can connect to an AP but ping returns network is unreachable |
| 21:54.30 | illsci | i installed it and yaird right |
| 21:54.38 | illsci | and it said there was some other dependancies |
| 21:54.42 | illsci | but instead of just failing |
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| 21:54.50 | illsci | it actually installed yaird and the linux-image |
| 21:54.58 | illsci | so now i have no way to see what those dependancies are |
| 21:55.04 | sifi-xz | NaufraGo, the you have to check out torrent files, google torrent |
| 21:55.13 | illsci | i t hink one was module-init-tools and i just installed the newest version of that |
| 21:55.20 | abrotman | illsci: apt-get -f install doesn't say ? |
| 21:55.31 | illsci | not because I cant boot into that kernel |
| 21:55.38 | illsci | and as soon as i do that it bitches about udev |
| 21:55.41 | yelo | How do I use dpkg to remove a half-installed (C) package with a broken prerm script? -r fails because of it... :( |
| 21:55.47 | illsci | you know what |
| 21:55.48 | abrotman | dpkg -P |
| 21:55.51 | abrotman | dpkg: you suck |
| 21:55.52 | dpkg | Dream on, abrotman. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
| 21:55.56 | illsci | im going to have to remove the kernel |
| 21:56.16 | illsci | and then reinstall it and write down the dependancies |
| 21:56.22 | yelo | abrotman: Tried that, unfortunately :( |
| 21:56.30 | abrotman | and ? |
| 21:56.34 | yelo | Same issue |
| 21:56.45 | abrotman | yelo: then finish the install ? |
| 21:56.48 | karthik | ndiswrapper issue... driving me insane |
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| 21:57.29 | yelo | abrotman: you see, the package's prerm script fails with exit status 1, so it can't be completely installed |
| 21:57.32 | XTF | Which package is responsible for the default umask? |
| 21:57.44 | abrotman | yelo: prerm is for removing .. not installing |
| 21:57.54 | abrotman | you know .. pre-ReMove |
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| 21:58.32 | NaufraGo | !tell NaufraGo about wget |
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| 21:58.46 | dampjam | How do you install the source of a debian package? |
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| 21:59.04 | yelo | abrotman: ah, ok... Is there a way to make dpkg forget about the package? the package is an rpm converted to .deb with the --scripts switch, but I wound up installind said package a different way |
| 21:59.07 | streuner | dampjam: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 21:59.21 | yelo | so I'd really like to just have dpkg forget about it, if that's possible |
| 21:59.22 | streuner | dampjam: and use the lines you need from that factoid |
| 21:59.29 | abrotman | yelo: well .. i guess .. man dpkg .. should be a way |
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| 22:00.21 | NaufraGo | so.. if I install a bittorrent client.. I'll have to search music by http? |
| 22:00.34 | dampjam | sh: line 1: dpkg-source: command not found |
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| 22:01.15 | streuner | dampjam: try apt-get install dpkg-dev |
| 22:01.38 | streuner | dampjam: /msg dpkg search |
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| 22:01.58 | dampjam | isn't that a bug that apt-get gives you raw errors like that? |
| 22:02.12 | streuner | no |
| 22:02.19 | streuner | its a missing command |
| 22:02.25 | yelo | abrotman: Hmm, I'm not seeing anything like that. Perhaps I just don't understand some of the terminology |
| 22:02.33 | streuner | which you don't have installed on your system right now |
| 22:02.38 | NaufraGo | if I install a bittorrent client.. I'll have to search music by http? |
| 22:02.43 | dampjam | so it should check for it and say you must install dpkg-dev before running apt-get -b |
| 22:02.57 | abrotman | yelo: set-selection ? |
| 22:03.00 | streuner | dampjam: nah, just /msg dpkg search |
| 22:03.11 | streuner | dampjam: for similar problems like that |
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| 22:04.07 | opqdonut | port 6000 is open on my box (i can nc to it) but i can't see it in netstat |
| 22:04.14 | opqdonut | what should i do |
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| 22:04.37 | streuner | opqdonut: netstat --plunt | grep 6000 |
| 22:05.17 | streuner | opqdonut: s/--plunt/-plunt/ |
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| 22:05.21 | opqdonut | oh now i got it |
| 22:05.26 | opqdonut | its X |
| 22:05.33 | opqdonut | x forwarding i guess |
| 22:06.07 | yelo | abrotman: Hmm, that seems to kinda hang -- less than 1% cpu, hardly any I/O |
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| 22:06.41 | abrotman | yelo: did you tell it to do anything?> |
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| 22:07.06 | yelo | abrotman: dpkg: --set-selections does not take any argument |
| 22:07.19 | abrotman | then you need to reread the man page .. because it tells you how to do it |
| 22:07.28 | cr3 | anyone happen to know about a package for parsing mbox messages? for example, to extrat all the subjects. |
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| 22:07.47 | abrotman | cr3: grep ? |
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| 22:08.23 | yelo | abrotman: ohhh... OK, that seems rather invasive :-/ |
| 22:08.27 | cmptrguru7 | Is anyone familiar with this howto: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-debian-dkms.phtml |
| 22:08.31 | gnube | I am using a MySQL database that has 300,000 items in a table and its hanging. Does anyone here know about postgres? |
| 22:08.39 | abrotman | yelo: yeah |
| 22:08.49 | abrotman | gnube: it's way better than mysql :) |
| 22:08.57 | gnube | abrotman, I figured |
| 22:09.10 | gnube | I guess I have to switch |
| 22:09.16 | illsci | i did this past week |
| 22:09.23 | illsci | im still learning it... |
| 22:09.27 | gnube | from Mysql to postgres? |
| 22:09.30 | illsci | yeah |
| 22:09.33 | NaufraGo | I can I use samba? |
| 22:09.36 | D4rkAngel | hy i am a beginner in linux can someone help me with some questions ? |
| 22:09.41 | NaufraGo | sorry |
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| 22:09.43 | abrotman | D4rkAngel: with Debian? |
| 22:09.46 | NaufraGo | How can I use samba? |
| 22:09.47 | D4rkAngel | yep |
| 22:09.53 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 22:09.53 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about "docs", "unix lessons", "reference", "fundamentals", "newbiedoc", "refcard", "faq". (i.e. type /msg dpkg reference in your irc client) |
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| 22:10.02 | abrotman | D4rkAngel: have a specific question ? |
| 22:10.09 | NaufraGo | !tell NaufraGo about samba |
| 22:10.19 | jjazz | !tell NaufraGo about selftell |
| 22:10.26 | tvee | is there away to snoop a usb device? |
| 22:10.32 | gnube | NaufraGo, Samba is used to access FAT32, NTFS filesystems |
| 22:10.32 | D4rkAngel | where can i find to download packages like pine pico iptables for debian ? |
| 22:10.37 | fmasi | hi how do i install azureus in debian what rep sould i add |
| 22:10.44 | abrotman | gnube: no . it's used for CIFS |
| 22:10.53 | gnube | abrotman, sorry, right. |
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| 22:11.06 | abrotman | D4rkAngel: iptables is in debian .. pine/pico is not .. try backports.org or apt-get.org for pine/pico |
| 22:11.28 | NaufraGo | gnube |
| 22:11.28 | NaufraGo | ok |
| 22:11.32 | D4rkAngel | bash: iptables: command not found |
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| 22:11.37 | D4rkAngel | it seems it isn`t |
| 22:11.40 | abrotman | D4rkAngel: you ahve install it |
| 22:11.41 | beginer | how can i send to printer a file from command line? |
| 22:11.47 | abrotman | D4rkAngel: you know .. like apt-get install iptables |
| 22:11.49 | streuner | cmptrguru7: /j #pptp |
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| 22:11.55 | NaufraGo | but I can't initialize a fat32 pendrive |
| 22:11.57 | abrotman | beginer: lp* |
| 22:12.05 | cmptrguru7 | tried that room no one there to help. |
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| 22:12.39 | Nihilanth | i was wondering if its possible to still use debian woody and install it via netinstall |
| 22:12.46 | streuner | cmptrguru7: and in ML? |
| 22:13.10 | streuner | cmptrguru7: what's the problem? |
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| 22:13.21 | cmptrguru7 | no response, but I did look through the archives no answer to my question. I am getting an error on the build. |
| 22:13.25 | NaufraGo | so, how can I run samba?? |
| 22:13.33 | gnube | So is MySQL not able to handle large tables, say over 250,000 rows? |
| 22:13.46 | abrotman | gnube: it is .. |
| 22:13.51 | gnube | !samba |
| 22:13.51 | dpkg | somebody said samba was a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html) |
| 22:13.52 | fmasi | how do i install azureus in debian |
| 22:14.05 | streuner | cmptrguru7: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 22:14.12 | cr3 | fmasi: you can simply download it and run it |
| 22:14.14 | abrotman | !info azureus sarge |
| 22:14.18 | gnube | fmasi, You are probably going to have to download it |
| 22:14.24 | abrotman | !info azureus sid |
| 22:14.32 | yelo | abrotman: Still no go, unfortunately... I rat --getselections, changed the problematic package from "purge" to "install", used --set-selections, and followed up with a apt-get dselect-upgrade. Still no dice -- `dpkg -C` still reports the package as half-configured |
| 22:14.33 | gnube | fmasi, It is a java app so you do not have to compile it. |
| 22:14.56 | sigma | fmasi: install java, get pre compiled binary for linux from sourceforge |
| 22:14.57 | abrotman | yelo: how about not-installed ? |
| 22:15.03 | fmasi | i like to have it in .db like i have in my ubuntu |
| 22:15.13 | cmptrguru7 | streuner: ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 22:15.13 | cmptrguru7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.13 | cmptrguru7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.15 | spibants | how can i make startx to start kde than gnome? |
| 22:15.17 | yelo | abrotman: deinstall? I'll try that. |
| 22:15.21 | sigma | fmasi: #ubuntu |
| 22:15.41 | fmasi | but i 1 get java you right |
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| 22:15.44 | adoniz | I want to browse the web with graphical browser from my WindowsXP pc to my fedora2 dedicated server that I dont have physical access |
| 22:15.49 | gnube | fmasi, ubuntu is different from debian and please kindly do not try to compare them right now. |
| 22:15.50 | streuner | cmptrguru7: /msg dpkg paster and show us your sources.list |
| 22:16.16 | gnube | adoniz, Do you have a web server running on the fedora machine? |
| 22:16.26 | gnube | adoniz, And maybe try #fedora |
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| 22:16.30 | fmasi | i know it is difrent that is why i in deb |
| 22:16.49 | fmasi | i have one deb server and one leptop whith ubuntu |
| 22:16.59 | moi | hey, i'm trying to install gnome on unstable, but i'm runnning from one dependency into another. is there a workaround somehow? |
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| 22:17.16 | abrotman | !install gnome |
| 22:17.17 | dpkg | hmm... install gnome is to install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 22:17.19 | abrotman | moi: start small |
| 22:17.36 | moi | ? |
| 22:17.42 | adoniz | gnube you mean apache? |
| 22:17.49 | abrotman | moi: start with gnome-core .. then try gnome-desktop-environment .. then gnome |
| 22:17.54 | centrx | fmasi, i got unofficial debian packages of azureus from www.debian-unofficial.org and they work fine |
| 22:17.54 | gnube | adoniz, Sure, or boa or whatever. |
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| 22:18.02 | yelo | abrotman: Thanks so much for the help so far... output is still the same: http://pastebin.ca/41058 |
| 22:18.13 | fmasi | centrx thx very mutch |
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| 22:18.24 | moi | abrotman, ok cool. works.. but why that complicated? |
| 22:18.45 | abrotman | yelo: touch /2X/thinclientserver/msgdb/en/postinstall |
| 22:19.00 | abrotman | moi: it's unstable .. it's broken sometimes |
| 22:19.16 | moi | abrotman, ok thanks for this information! |
| 22:19.18 | De_Mon | m-a |
| 22:19.20 | De_Mon | ?? m-a |
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| 22:19.24 | abrotman | !m-a |
| 22:19.24 | dpkg | well, module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential |
| 22:19.32 | De_Mon | Oh |
| 22:19.32 | centrx | moi, if you want newer software that is not broken you might want to use testing instead |
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| 22:20.00 | De_Mon | thanks abrotman |
| 22:20.02 | abrotman | stuff still breaks in testing |
| 22:20.15 | De_Mon | !a-i |
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| 22:20.31 | centrx | abrotman, dependencies don't |
| 22:20.40 | De_Mon | a-i |
| 22:20.40 | streuner | cmptrguru7: hm? |
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| 22:21.12 | streuner | fuck |
| 22:21.33 | centrx | abrotman, what breaks in testing is just bugs in the software itself, which is still less of a problem than in unstable--i for one have never had a serious problem |
| 22:21.34 | cmptrguru7 | huh? |
| 22:21.36 | abrotman | centrx: yes they do |
| 22:21.40 | streuner | cmptrguru7: /msg dpkg paster and show us your sources.list |
| 22:21.46 | Deified | i need help updating my apt packet list, i keep getting the error file not found |
| 22:21.47 | streuner | !paster |
| 22:21.47 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
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| 22:21.57 | abrotman | centrx: dependency stuff can most certainly break in testing |
| 22:22.22 | mUFy | alexscott |
| 22:22.24 | mUFy | alexscott |
| 22:22.25 | mUFy | alexscott |
| 22:22.31 | mUFy | are you here |
| 22:22.34 | mUFy | alexscott |
| 22:22.35 | mUFy | are you here |
| 22:22.47 | moi | centrx, yeah but.. i think it's more work to downgrade atm.. |
| 22:22.50 | abrotman | mUFy: stop being a tard |
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| 22:23.22 | cmptrguru7 | I did that |
| 22:23.22 | mUFy | so beople you all love linux ? |
| 22:23.34 | Deified | deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ woody module-init-tools initrd-tools procps, i get a problem with this link, any suggestions? |
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| 22:23.42 | stew | mUFy: do you have a debian related question? or are you just here to troll? |
| 22:23.50 | abrotman | like you had to ask .. |
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| 22:24.05 | yelo | abrotman: That did the trick...thanks! |
| 22:24.11 | abrotman | yelo: yay! |
| 22:24.14 | centrx | mUFy, i have no emotional attachment to this amorphous object you call "linux" |
| 22:24.26 | itachi | jjazz hey im back i finally found out how to access to the win computer |
| 22:24.28 | XTF | Which apps depend on user groups? |
| 22:24.40 | centrx | abrotman, by what means |
| 22:25.01 | streuner | cmptrguru7: where is the URL? |
| 22:25.05 | centrx | abrotman, do you mean if there is an undeclared, yet necessary, dependency? do you mean if a package is hinted in? |
| 22:25.07 | cmptrguru7 | streuner: Is this what you meant http://channels.debian.net/paste/1788 |
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| 22:25.50 | mUFy | i love all linux users |
| 22:25.55 | mUFy | so i love you |
| 22:26.11 | streuner | cmptrguru7: comment the line with 'unstable' |
| 22:26.15 | itachi | to update from a deb deb http://windowmachine/debian/dvd1/dists/ main stable ? |
| 22:26.26 | cmptrguru7 | ok |
| 22:26.36 | abrotman | centrx: no .. i mean dependencies break |
| 22:26.40 | streuner | cmptrguru7: and run 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' |
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| 22:27.25 | streuner | cmptrguru7: after that, tell us the full error you got (build) |
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| 22:27.35 | streuner | cmptrguru7: in paster |
| 22:27.40 | hans0lo | Does anyone know where I can get support for GnomeICU? Their website at gnomeicu.sf.net doens't seem to have a forum or anything |
| 22:27.58 | cmptrguru7 | ok |
| 22:28.04 | mUFy | hey you make me feel like that i am a strange object that you wanna kill when i aper on ur desktop |
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| 22:28.08 | centrx | abrotman, the testing scripts ensure that any declared dependency is followed in testing so that testing is self-consistent |
| 22:28.09 | streuner | !b-e cmptrguru7 |
| 22:28.09 | dpkg | cmptrguru7: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
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| 22:28.25 | streuner | cmptrguru7: install that, if you haven't it already installed |
| 22:28.33 | jimmyxx | hi can anyone please help me? i have a Quanta issue - i'm trying to add a SSH folder to a top level folder - but Quanta returns "klauncher said : Error loading 'ktelnetserivce %u'. any suggestions would be great, i've had this before but can't remeber what to apt-get to fix it |
| 22:28.46 | tarzeau | !quanta |
| 22:28.47 | dpkg | i guess quanta is http://quanta.sourceforge.net |
| 22:29.11 | streuner | tarzeau: hm, i thought you would using something else ;-) |
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| 22:29.16 | abrotman | centrx: fine .. believe whatever you want .. i'm about to go home and would rather not stay at work to prove you wrong :) |
| 22:29.31 | mUFy | do any body use dsl |
| 22:29.32 | tarzeau | streuner: huh? |
| 22:29.39 | tarzeau | i was just asking dpkg what quanta is. |
| 22:29.42 | streuner | tarzeau: popcon? |
| 22:29.43 | tarzeau | mUFy: lsd |
| 22:29.43 | De_Mon | !apt-file /a-i |
| 22:29.43 | mUFy | damn small linux |
| 22:29.51 | De_Mon | dsl? |
| 22:29.51 | tarzeau | streuner: what about it? |
| 22:29.54 | abrotman | !dsl |
| 22:29.54 | dpkg | methinks dsl is Digital Subscriber Line, the wonder technology the telcos will nevertheless find a way to turn into a con, or better than cable. http://www.dslreports.com or Damn Small Linux, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ |
| 22:29.55 | tarzeau | !dsl |
| 22:30.19 | boozi | adsl? |
| 22:30.19 | jimmyxx | can anyone help me resolve my ssh problem? [just up] |
| 22:30.19 | De_Mon | also damn small linux |
| 22:30.23 | boozi | adsl = advence dsl? |
| 22:30.25 | streuner | tarzeau: why do you wanna force the use of it? |
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| 22:30.41 | dpy | hi |
| 22:30.43 | boozi | adsl = advence dsl = hehe something? |
| 22:30.47 | thingfish | asyncronous |
| 22:30.51 | dpy | anyone here with VoyageLinux on a WRAP board ? |
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| 22:30.53 | thingfish | isn't it? |
| 22:30.58 | De_Mon | dsl - damn small linux, get with the topic |
| 22:30.59 | abrotman | asynchronous |
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| 22:31.17 | mUFy | yes its only 50 mb live cd with the ability to set up on the hdd right now i am chatng with you from x chat in a dsl driven computer |
| 22:31.19 | thingfish | ah, yes, abrotman - mine didn't look right. |
| 22:31.26 | tarzeau | streuner: i don't want to force the use of it. i just want to make it popular |
| 22:31.32 | tarzeau | streuner: i'm sure half of the people in here don' |
| 22:31.40 | tarzeau | t have it installed because they don't know it exists |
| 22:31.42 | streuner | tarzeau: hm |
| 22:31.44 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: good job! |
| 22:31.45 | jimmyxx | can anyone help me with my above question please? i'm really stuck, google hasn't been much use! |
| 22:31.45 | DimmuR | Hi I've some trouble with compilong vdr-xine (under debian). I get error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldsound. So how in debian can i find which libraries i need? |
| 22:31.49 | tarzeau | mUFy: it's not debian |
| 22:31.57 | tarzeau | !voyagelinux |
| 22:32.00 | mUFy | ok people i love this linux toooo much |
| 22:32.04 | tarzeau | dpy: #voyagelinux |
| 22:32.07 | illsci | holy shit i fixed it |
| 22:32.10 | illsci | hehehehehhe |
| 22:32.10 | abrotman | oh ffs .. mUFy is clearly a troll |
| 22:32.12 | dpy | tarzeau: nobody there |
| 22:32.17 | mUFy | its knoppix based |
| 22:32.19 | boozi | dst = damn small trojan |
| 22:32.20 | tarzeau | !they don't know |
| 22:32.20 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 22:32.29 | tarzeau | !topicsmite mUFy |
| 22:32.29 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon mUFy. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 22:32.34 | mUFy | boozi |
| 22:32.35 | dpy | tarzeau: voyagelinux is based on sarge |
| 22:32.35 | mUFy | boozi |
| 22:32.36 | mUFy | boozi |
| 22:32.40 | mUFy | shut up |
| 22:32.41 | tarzeau | !based on |
| 22:32.42 | boozi | hehe :) |
| 22:32.55 | jimmyxx | !hello |
| 22:32.56 | dpkg | Hi, jimmyxx! |
| 22:32.59 | mUFy | based on knoppix |
| 22:33.01 | jimmyxx | !how are you? |
| 22:33.02 | tarzeau | dpy: based on doesn't count. it is, or it isn't |
| 22:33.02 | dpkg | jimmyxx: pretty good. how about you? |
| 22:33.06 | streuner | just ignore the troll |
| 22:33.10 | jimmyxx | !great thanks, can you help me? |
| 22:33.14 | cmptrguru7 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1789. |
| 22:33.27 | jimmyxx | !can you help me? |
| 22:33.32 | jimmyxx | !help me |
| 22:33.40 | jimmyxx | !help |
| 22:33.47 | jimmyxx | :-( |
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| 22:33.57 | mUFy | ok if i could i am just a new linux user |
| 22:33.59 | streuner | cmptrguru7: the URL is empty |
| 22:34.11 | gnube | jimmyxx, what is your ssh problem? Maybe I can help |
| 22:34.18 | gnube | no garuntees. |
| 22:34.19 | jimmyxx | can someone help me with my ssh klauncher problem? i'm trying to add a SSH folder to a top level folder in quanta - but it returns "klauncher said : Error loading 'ktelnetserivce %u'. any suggestions would be great, i've had this before but can't remeber what to apt-get to fix it |
| 22:34.21 | gnube | hehe |
| 22:34.25 | jimmyxx | gnube: thanks |
| 22:34.30 | boozi | jimmyxx, "don't ask for help, just help" |
| 22:34.35 | cmptrguru7 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1789 |
| 22:34.39 | streuner | cmptrguru7: hm, was the final '.' at the end |
| 22:35.00 | sgeigerbot | gnube: nice nick |
| 22:35.01 | cmptrguru7 | copied too much |
| 22:35.05 | gnube | jimmyxx, I'm sorry, I do not use quanta, I do not even know what it is. |
| 22:35.08 | cmptrguru7 | sorry about that |
| 22:35.10 | gnube | jimmyxx, Thanks. |
| 22:35.24 | gnube | jimmyxx, I do use ssh though. :) |
| 22:35.37 | mUFy | is any body here is a hacker? |
| 22:35.46 | tarzeau | mUFy: yes, nethacker |
| 22:36.02 | jimmyxx | heh, okay no prob - i think its a problem with ktelnetservice - but its not appearing in the apt-get install [tab] thingy |
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| 22:36.22 | gnube | jimmyxx, ktelnetservice smacks of telnet and not ssh |
| 22:36.34 | mUFy | if you trust in your self just get this 192.168.1.1 router password |
| 22:36.50 | yelo | !hacker |
| 22:36.50 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, hacker is someone that hacks. see hacking. or an interesting essay can be found at http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html Someone who plays with stuff, and figures things out just to satisfy his own idle curiosity. |
| 22:36.56 | tarzeau | !ops mUFy is an idiot |
| 22:36.56 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: mUFy is an idiot |
| 22:37.13 | cmptrguru7 | streuner: if you want to see the make.log file it is here http://channels.debian.net/paste/1790 |
| 22:37.16 | dondelelcaro | mUFy: do you actually have anything #debian related to ask about? |
| 22:37.38 | mUFy | ok i didnt mean the bad meaning of th word hacker |
| 22:37.48 | mUFy | thats means cracker |
| 22:37.57 | mUFy | this is the bad one |
| 22:38.00 | streuner | cmptrguru7: well, paste that to the ML there or/and here on freenode #pptp |
| 22:38.00 | jimmyxx | gnube: do you know how to get it working? |
| 22:38.04 | tarzeau | !cracker |
| 22:38.05 | dpkg | it has been said that cracker is defined at http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/cracker.html |
| 22:38.09 | [2am] | hey all |
| 22:38.16 | mUFy | what |
| 22:38.17 | tarzeau | dpkg cracker is also http://www.linuks.mine.nu/020302.jpg |
| 22:38.17 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
| 22:38.18 | mUFy | what |
| 22:38.25 | gnube | jimmyxx, Which ktelnetservice, apt-get, ssh, or quanta? |
| 22:38.29 | mUFy | [2am] |
| 22:38.29 | [2am] | partitioning question: do most people create a separate /boot partition on thier debian installs? |
| 22:38.39 | cmptrguru7 | ok thanks no ideas? |
| 22:38.41 | tarzeau | [2am]: no, unless i need to |
| 22:38.43 | mUFy | no |
| 22:38.48 | [2am] | and, do i wanna muck with with LVMs? |
| 22:38.53 | *** part/#debian dpy (i=marcel@h120100.upc-h.chello.nl) |
| 22:38.54 | jimmyxx | ktelnetservice |
| 22:38.58 | tarzeau | [2am]: if you don't know -> no |
| 22:38.58 | [2am] | (not for / or /boot, but for the rest of the volumes) |
| 22:39.03 | mUFy | you have not to make a separate boot partition |
| 22:39.05 | jimmyxx | i can ssh to other computers - so i presume that works |
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| 22:39.09 | jimmyxx | and quanta works |
| 22:39.09 | [2am] | hehe. i just cant see the need to resize |
| 22:39.14 | gnube | jimmyxx, Why are you using ktelnetservice? |
| 22:39.17 | [2am] | ive ran the same box with the same partitioning for 5yrs |
| 22:39.20 | yelo | [2am]: the debian installer warns of using xfs for /boot. that may be a reason |
| 22:39.22 | [2am] | never had to resize |
| 22:39.31 | mUFy | ok |
| 22:39.45 | mUFy | the boot will but it self inhd0 |
| 22:39.49 | mUFy | hda1 |
| 22:40.06 | mUFy | first boot sector |
| 22:40.11 | gnube | jimmyxx, There could be a readon why you cannot ssh to the particular computer, despite ssh working on other computers. |
| 22:40.20 | *** part/#debian boozi (n=admin@218-160-76-147.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 22:40.29 | [2am] | if i put /boot on its on partition |
| 22:40.32 | gnube | jimmyxx, Are you sure about the configuration on the computer you are trying to shell into? |
| 22:40.33 | [2am] | and then everything else on an LVM |
| 22:40.37 | [2am] | do i need to muck with initrd? |
| 22:40.43 | dondelelcaro | [2am]: depends |
| 22:40.45 | [2am] | or is the debian stuff current enough to cope? |
| 22:40.49 | jimmyxx | gnube - because i want to add a "top level folder" (quanta expression) to my quanta explorer tree so i can just browse the files like a local folder (add the address as ssh://myname@server.com), i've had the problem before but i fixed it last time by apt-get installing something, it works on my work computer too |
| 22:40.56 | [2am] | don: reading http://emidio.planamente.ch/pages/linux_howto_root_lvm_raid.php#Restrictions |
| 22:41.07 | dondelelcaro | [2am]: if you're not using a custom kernel, you'll need an initrd, but Debian does that for you already. |
| 22:41.19 | [2am] | don: please elaborate |
| 22:41.21 | mUFy | the most easy way is to make a root / partition |
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| 22:41.26 | mUFy | and a swap one |
| 22:41.29 | dondelelcaro | [2am]: my nick is dondelelcaro, not don. |
| 22:41.29 | mUFy | thats all |
| 22:41.30 | jimmyxx | i just think i need to do something like apt-get install ssh-telnet |
| 22:41.32 | *** join/#debian quuesstionnerr (n=david@d54C1038C.access.telenet.be) |
| 22:41.32 | jimmyxx | or something like that |
| 22:41.43 | [2am] | hehe.. was hoping for autocomp |
| 22:41.48 | [2am] | but ok dondelelcaro :P |
| 22:41.56 | [2am] | so ya. ive got /dev/sda and /dev/sdb |
| 22:42.09 | gnube | jimmyxx, You can look in your history to see if you still have the command you used; history | grep apt-get |
| 22:42.10 | [2am] | was gonna make em into /dev/md0 and /dev/md1 |
| 22:42.19 | [2am] | make md0 a small boot partition |
| 22:42.28 | [2am] | and md1 everything else (/, swap, /usr, etc) |
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| 22:42.31 | jimmyxx | gnube it was on my old linux installation, ive since reformatted :( |
| 22:42.38 | jimmyxx | which is why this problem has cropped up |
| 22:42.41 | [2am] | do i need to do anything with the debian installer? |
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| 22:42.50 | rysiek | hi there guys |
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| 22:43.06 | mUFy | so if you ware that preliant so y do you ask a stupid quistions |
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| 22:43.11 | mUFy | [2am] |
| 22:43.15 | rysiek | It might be a bit off topic, but: are there any php5 debs in repos? |
| 22:43.18 | gnube | jimmyxx, Did you try; apt-get install ssh? |
| 22:43.22 | tarzeau | rysiek: yes |
| 22:43.30 | rysiek | where? |
| 22:43.31 | [2am] | mUFy? |
| 22:43.33 | rysiek | :) |
| 22:43.35 | tarzeau | rysiek: sid |
| 22:43.35 | mUFy | what |
| 22:43.48 | Deified | i need help updating my apt packet list, i keep getting the error file not found |
| 22:44.03 | rysiek | a, sid, I've got sarge. won't it fck up my system? :) |
| 22:44.03 | jimmyxx | its installing now gnube |
| 22:44.04 | tarzeau | Deified: can you show your sources.list ? |
| 22:44.08 | Deified | k |
| 22:44.13 | tarzeau | rysiek: it won't , but you will |
| 22:44.15 | jimmyxx | but ssh worked before ? i just sshed into my work computer |
| 22:44.15 | jimmyxx | lol |
| 22:44.17 | mUFy | [2am] |
| 22:44.17 | quuesstionnerr | I test now 'xplanet' (very nice, thx). But i would like to do 'xplanet -body saturn -latitude 25'. But it's looks that there are missing files(map files) to display it, also the same case for all other planets. Is that normal? It's in 'Testing' and in 'Stable' |
| 22:44.19 | mUFy | [2am] |
| 22:44.25 | Deified | #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main |
| 22:44.25 | Deified | deb ftp://debian.marked.no/debian/ stable main |
| 22:44.25 | Deified | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 22:44.25 | mUFy | hehe |
| 22:44.26 | Deified | deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ woody module-init-tools initrd-tools proc$ |
| 22:44.30 | rysiek | tarzeau: thanks for believing in me ;) |
| 22:44.33 | tarzeau | mUFy: can you stop pressing enter so many times? fucking please? |
| 22:44.36 | [2am] | so simple question |
| 22:44.56 | [2am] | if using the 3.1 installer, if i mount / on an LVM, will it work? |
| 22:45.07 | [2am] | or do i need to muck with INITRD (assuming /boot is on its own partition) |
| 22:45.08 | mUFy | tarzeau |
| 22:45.08 | jimmyxx | doh - didn't change anything |
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| 22:45.10 | mUFy | y |
| 22:45.29 | tarzeau | mUFy: because it's annoying |
| 22:45.32 | [2am] | mUFy: so i need to do something beyond the normal installer correct? |
| 22:45.45 | gnube | jimmyxx, What does it say when you try to log into the machine from the command line? |
| 22:45.47 | yelo | [2am]: A debian install doesn't take too long. Perhaps it would be a good idea to try? |
| 22:46.05 | SimonRaven | people, i highly suggest /ignore and !ops |
| 22:46.12 | [2am] | yelo: im on try #2 (first time i put /boot on the LVM and it didnt work) |
| 22:46.17 | gnube | jimmyxx, Like this; ssh -l <your_login> <your_server> |
| 22:46.18 | [2am] | yelo: so i thought i'd ask |
| 22:46.41 | jimmyxx | gnube |
| 22:46.42 | Deified | tarzeau: did u read the list? |
| 22:46.46 | yelo | [2am]: OK... I haven't messed with LVM myself, so I can't say either way |
| 22:46.47 | jimmyxx | just asks my username and password then takes me in |
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| 22:46.51 | gnube | jimmyxx, yep |
| 22:46.53 | rysiek | tarzeau: will adding: deb http://ftp.ps.pl/pub/Linux/debian/ sid main to sources.list suffice? |
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| 22:46.59 | mUFy | tarzeau |
| 22:47.00 | tarzeau | Deified: what list? |
| 22:47.03 | mUFy | ilove you |
| 22:47.04 | Deified | #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main |
| 22:47.04 | Deified | deb ftp://debian.marked.no/debian/ stable main |
| 22:47.04 | Deified | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 22:47.05 | Deified | deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ woody module-init-tools initrd-tools proc$ |
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| 22:47.11 | gnube | jimmyxx, ah, ok, like you said - it is not ssh. |
| 22:47.17 | [2am] | mUFy: ;P |
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| 22:47.25 | tarzeau | rysiek: depends what else you have in, let me tell you about |
| 22:47.26 | Deified | sorry |
| 22:47.27 | mUFy | [2am] |
| 22:47.30 | mUFy | what |
| 22:47.38 | tarzeau | !bobbitt |
| 22:47.38 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
| 22:47.47 | tarzeau | Deified: also for you, the bobbitt bit |
| 22:47.50 | [2am] | mUFy: sorry to keep asking. but if, using the sarge installer, i create / on the LVM, do i need to do anything else to get the system to boot? |
| 22:47.50 | stew | !tell Deified about flood |
| 22:48.01 | tarzeau | !nickometer [2am] |
| 22:48.02 | dpkg | '[2am]' is 15.000% lame, tarzeau |
| 22:48.13 | Deified | bobbit bit? |
| 22:48.18 | gnube | !nickometer gnube |
| 22:48.19 | stew | [2am]: you shouldn't need to |
| 22:48.19 | dpkg | 'gnube' is 0.000% lame, gnube |
| 22:48.25 | gnube | w00t |
| 22:48.29 | tarzeau | Deified: yes what dpkg said |
| 22:48.30 | [2am] | stew: thanks. that was the answer i was looking for |
| 22:48.32 | [2am] | ok thanks guys! |
| 22:48.48 | gnube | Deified, It looks like the woody line in your sources.list is the problem. |
| 22:48.49 | SimonRaven | oh no, "botbbitt bit" |
| 22:48.49 | SimonRaven | 11"oh |
| 22:48.53 | mUFy | listen can you blace the boot onto a first boot sector |
| 22:49.03 | SimonRaven | no, "bobbitt bit". baaaad tarzeau |
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| 22:49.07 | jimmyxx | i just some how need to try and get ktelnetservice running on my computer |
| 22:49.08 | SimonRaven | oh* |
| 22:49.13 | mUFy | i know its the most easy way to get ur system boot |
| 22:49.22 | Deified | i said sorry, and i wont paste again i just didnt kno bout the paste thingy >.< |
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| 22:49.38 | stew | mUFy: uhh its the only way, but that has nothing to do with what he is asking |
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| 22:49.46 | matze_ | Hallöchen |
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| 22:49.53 | matze_ | ist jemand da? |
| 22:49.57 | stew | mUFy: unless you are saying put the boot partition into the first sector, which is impossible |
| 22:50.03 | mUFy | so what he was asking |
| 22:50.04 | tarzeau | !de |
| 22:50.04 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 22:50.05 | mUFy | ? |
| 22:50.07 | rysiek | well then, tarzeau, you could just tell me: no, there are no usable packages of php5 for debian sarge |
| 22:50.09 | gnube | matze_, Is that you Mathias? |
| 22:50.09 | kimo | I have two DSL routers & my laptop connected to a switch. How can I have failover between the two DSL routers? |
| 22:50.20 | gnube | matze_, Is that you Mathias? |
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| 22:50.32 | jimmyxx | thanks for trying gnube |
| 22:50.33 | tarzeau | rysiek: but you didn't ask if there are php5 pakcages for sarge |
| 22:50.43 | gnube | jimmyxx, Sure, sorry I couldn't help. |
| 22:50.54 | tarzeau | rysiek: you just asked if they exist in debian, yes they do. and you fuck up your system when you add sid to your sources while not removing stable |
| 22:51.07 | tarzeau | rysiek: /msg dpkg ask |
| 22:51.20 | tarzeau | rysiek: i'm not a mind reader |
| 22:51.39 | mUFy | so why we dont blay this game |
| 22:51.51 | mUFy | mind attack |
| 22:51.53 | mUFy | mind attack |
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| 22:52.07 | SimonRaven | stfu |
| 22:52.10 | thingfish | bless you |
| 22:52.17 | SimonRaven | thank you |
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| 22:52.38 | gnube | thanks |
| 22:52.51 | Curtis | hello... I'm trying to get Debian installed on my old Mac beige G3. I can boot into the installer, but the CD I burned is not recognized. |
| 22:52.56 | lordlamer | does anybody have openmosix packages for debian sarge? |
| 22:52.57 | rysiek | tarzeau: ok, point taken. it's fckng too late |
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| 22:53.08 | thudson | Good Afternoon |
| 22:53.32 | gnube | Curtis, PowerPC? |
| 22:53.35 | SimonRaven | Curtis: and it won't be. NEXT! |
| 22:53.37 | Curtis | yes |
| 22:53.47 | thudson | Do you think someone could help me with one line of my FSTAB? |
| 22:53.49 | SimonRaven | Curtis: /msg dpkg ig |
| 22:53.58 | SimonRaven | !install guide |
| 22:53.58 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for stable can be found at: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual For sid: ask me about "iyhtays". Also ask me about "reference". |
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| 22:54.40 | SimonRaven | thudson: i don't have an FSTAB |
| 22:54.50 | thudson | simon what do you have? |
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| 22:55.00 | Curtis | I'm thinking about copying the install files from the Cd to hard drive, but I'm not sure if the installer will recognize and HFS/HFS+ formatted volume. |
| 22:55.00 | gnube | thudson, He is pulling your leg. |
| 22:55.20 | thudson | ha, well gnube could you help me? |
| 22:55.24 | gnube | thudson, dunno, whats the problem? |
| 22:55.55 | gnube | thudson, I think SimonRaven was only saying that the file is really called /etc/fstab |
| 22:56.02 | gnube | not FSTAB |
| 22:56.02 | kimo | I have two DSL routers & my laptop connected to a switch. How can I switch automatically between the two DSL routers if one dies? |
| 22:56.04 | thudson | Ok well its debian sarge, Samba.... I am trying to mount a windows 2000 share from my fstab but have really got no idea how to as everyone has done it some other way!? |
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| 22:56.13 | thudson | he is right. |
| 22:56.32 | gnube | yeah, I think he is |
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| 22:56.35 | Curtis | anybody here using Debian on an Old World Mac? |
| 22:56.40 | SimonRaven | thudson: *nix based OSes are case sensitive. i was pointing that out indirectly |
| 22:56.42 | gnube | !dpkg samba |
| 22:56.42 | dpkg | samba is probably a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html) |
| 22:56.47 | tarzeau | Curtis: m68k one or ppc? |
| 22:56.51 | yoonp | Hello all! |
| 22:57.00 | gnube | tarzeau, He said PPC |
| 22:57.04 | SimonRaven | Curtis: 2 of the 3 here. |
| 22:57.10 | thudson | Simon, I am sorry i know its case sensitive i thought that was what you were pointing out. |
| 22:57.13 | Curtis | ppc.. beige g3 desktop 233Mhz |
| 22:57.21 | tarzeau | Curtis: nubus thing? |
| 22:57.26 | Curtis | no, pci |
| 22:57.38 | tarzeau | Curtis: tried #debianppc ? |
| 22:57.50 | Curtis | no, I haven't heard about that one |
| 22:57.54 | Curtis | on this server? |
| 22:57.56 | yoonp | Hey I have a quick question: how does GRUB refer to SCSI disks so I can boot off it? |
| 22:57.57 | tarzeau | yes |
| 22:57.58 | gnube | some of those old macs can be tough to install linux on |
| 22:58.02 | Curtis | ok, thanks |
| 22:58.06 | tarzeau | yoonp: same as ide disks |
| 22:58.21 | yoonp | tarzeau: so i just say hd0 if it's the first drive? |
| 22:58.22 | tarzeau | gnube: all macs can be tough to install linux on |
| 22:58.28 | gnube | I have a 1400cs which refuses to receive the debian. |
| 22:58.30 | tarzeau | gnube: more than everything else that i've seen |
| 22:58.31 | Curtis | but once installed, they are supposed to work well |
| 22:58.37 | tarzeau | yoonp: yes |
| 22:58.44 | thudson | http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html |
| 22:58.51 | gnube | Curtis, But they run FreeBSD already |
| 22:58.56 | gnube | * ducks * |
| 22:59.08 | SimonRaven | beige g3 you might well forget about booting from the linux side. the firmware on them a buggier than even 1.0.5 version of open firmware |
| 22:59.09 | adoniz | men I am in love with debian |
| 22:59.46 | yoonp | tarzeau: thanks! |
| 23:00.54 | quuesstionnerr | Is that normal that i have not other maps of planets by 'xplanet' ? I have also installed 'xplanet-images'. I look on the website of the product but give me no more info or maps download possibilitys |
| 23:01.29 | tarzeau | quuesstionnerr: yes that's very much likely |
| 23:01.36 | tarzeau | quuesstionnerr: tried dpkg -L xplanet-images yet? |
| 23:02.15 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: It's a little list, i post it in pastebin |
| 23:02.18 | thudson | Damn fstab. |
| 23:02.26 | thudson | I must be doing something wrong. |
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| 23:03.10 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: http://pastebin.ca/41072 |
| 23:03.50 | tarzeau | quuesstionnerr: i hate the debian maintainer to not have created a different xplanet package fsince version 1.x |
| 23:04.04 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: Are there some missing maps ? |
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| 23:04.22 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: hhhmmm, yes |
| 23:04.26 | tarzeau | quuesstionnerr: don't know, can't connect but parameters got like broken from 0.x to 1.x |
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| 23:04.58 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: Know you a place where i can download al the maps, so a build a new one deb |
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| 23:05.29 | tarzeau | quuesstionnerr: tried to look on google yet? wait i think i've got some links at |
| 23:05.34 | tarzeau | !dff |
| 23:05.34 | dpkg | debian friend finder: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-worldmap/, or #debian-worldmap, or http://www.frappr.com/debian |
| 23:06.44 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: He that's verry nice |
| 23:07.07 | tarzeau | quuesstionnerr: do you have gnome? |
| 23:07.15 | tarzeau | quuesstionnerr: and a key repeat problem? |
| 23:07.18 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: nope, Fluxbox |
| 23:07.50 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: No a fancy nick :-/ |
| 23:08.23 | SimonRaven | aah that's where that thing went |
| 23:08.31 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: Im not creatif, when i write, most time i write faults in it, english is not my native language |
| 23:08.37 | gnube | !nickometer quuesstionnerr |
| 23:08.39 | dpkg | 'quuesstionnerr' is 0.000% lame, gnube |
| 23:09.27 | thingfish | wth |
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| 23:09.54 | thingfish | !Friday |
| 23:09.54 | dpkg | methinks friday is Tardsday Eve Eve |
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| 23:13.25 | quuesstionnerr | Im surfing a bit for looking for maps to use with 'xplanet', i would like to do 'xplanet -body neptune' but recive 'Warning: Can't find map file neptune.jpg' |
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| 23:14.28 | quuesstionnerr | So i think that i mis somme maps for 'xplanet'. Can we download some maps of planets. I look on the web, nice, but he only expose the beautifull things there, i would like to download some ones ... |
| 23:15.16 | tarzeau | quuesstionnerr: download maps using wget |
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| 23:15.22 | sgeigerbot | What causes my xvncviewer window to close when I switch with Ctrl-F2 (or something like that) to another workspace in KDE? |
| 23:15.24 | quuesstionnerr | but there is a little problem with the package 'xplanet-images' in 'Stable' and also in 'Testing' |
| 23:15.24 | tarzeau | quuesstionnerr: or a browser |
| 23:15.30 | sgeigerbot | (And can I avoid this annoying behavior?) |
| 23:15.31 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: Yes, that i know |
| 23:15.38 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: But from where ? |
| 23:15.50 | tarzeau | quuesstionnerr: from internet, the dff has linked to some i think |
| 23:16.00 | Seb | is anyone successfully using madwifi-old with the 2.6.15 kernels in debian ? I keep getting "symbol not found"... |
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| 23:16.02 | tarzeau | quuesstionnerr: for the bugs report them, see !bts |
| 23:16.44 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: Ok i look a bit, also in 'reportbug' when a bit more time. |
| 23:16.56 | coolpix | gn8 |
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| 23:18.41 | [2am] | hey. are the debian rescue disks (floppies) still avail? |
| 23:18.43 | SimonRaven | sgeigerbot: hi. set your hotkeys? |
| 23:18.49 | SimonRaven | yes |
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| 23:19.41 | [2am] | http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ |
| 23:19.43 | [2am] | ;( |
| 23:19.46 | quuesstionnerr | tarzeau: I have found where i can download some ones, begining with this, |
| 23:19.48 | SimonRaven | Seb: no. not using it, no hardware that uses it, so no i'm not using it successfully :P |
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| 23:20.17 | mark__ | I dont think all the bugs in Evolution are worked out yet |
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| 23:20.48 | mark__ | Anybody use Evolution for pop3 server? |
| 23:21.01 | lunaphyte_ | how can i force files created in a certain directory to be owned by a specific group? |
| 23:21.02 | disposable | mark__: yepp |
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| 23:21.17 | mark__ | chmod |
| 23:21.45 | mark_ | chown rather |
| 23:22.10 | driver | is theer anyone here that could tell me where i could find the transfer logs on my box please? i have been told that the box was dosed but i dont believe that is the case |
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| 23:22.41 | disposable | lunaphyte: chown -R :desiredgroup * |
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| 23:23.03 | mark_ | I cant get Evolution to take a password. |
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| 23:23.20 | lunaphyte_ | that only applies to existing files |
| 23:23.37 | disposable | mark_: hangon... gonna look |
| 23:23.54 | mark_ | That depends on how you create them. |
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| 23:25.36 | disposable | lunaphyte: won't sticky bit do? |
| 23:26.03 | overseer | does the Sarge installer support installing onto md-raid1 backed LVM volumes for / ? |
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| 23:26.29 | debiankid | hello again |
| 23:26.32 | disposable | mark_: just leave the password not set and when you first connect, it will ask for it and remember it (checkbox for it) |
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| 23:28.07 | disposable | mark_: when you create new account and get to 'Password' | 'Check for supported types', leave it like that. i remember having problems with it myself |
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| 23:28.48 | ringo999 | hi. what is a good tool to unrar .rar files with? |
| 23:28.56 | xstasi | unrar |
| 23:29.10 | ringo999 | unrar-free? |
| 23:29.24 | xstasi | sincerely, i've never seen the free unrar working. |
| 23:29.32 | xstasi | the non-free works by the way |
| 23:29.35 | ringo999 | xstasi: yeah, i just figured that |
| 23:29.45 | ringo999 | xstasi: but where do i get that? |
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| 23:30.00 | xstasi | do you have non-free and contrib in your sources.list? |
| 23:30.13 | ringo999 | xstasi: nope |
| 23:30.17 | ringo999 | what do i have to add? |
| 23:30.28 | xstasi | you have something like |
| 23:30.41 | xstasi | deb http://some.debian.mirror/debian your_dist main |
| 23:30.46 | mark_ | OK, I got it to take a password but now have another error, I am going to have to do telnet session with it. |
| 23:30.48 | ringo999 | riht |
| 23:30.49 | xstasi | after main add "non-free contrib" |
| 23:31.00 | ringo999 | k |
| 23:31.00 | xstasi | without quotes |
| 23:31.00 | ringo999 | thx |
| 23:31.01 | xstasi | apt-get update |
| 23:31.05 | xstasi | apt-get install unrar |
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| 23:31.51 | ringo999 | xstasi: yeah, i think i know that procedure..thx a lot |
| 23:32.07 | dscener | I have a computer running Debian that I need to install XP to, as a dual-boot. What's the best way to ensure I can still boot into Linux after the install's complete? |
| 23:32.11 | xstasi | ;) |
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| 23:32.27 | xstasi | dscener: reinstalling the bootloader always works |
| 23:32.30 | disposable | dscener: have a rescue disk |
| 23:32.43 | xstasi | i don't think there is a way to tell winxp not to put his bootloader in the mbr |
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| 23:32.56 | thingfish | dscener: ask dpkg about fixmbr |
| 23:32.59 | dscener | disposable: so I'll just need to re-install grab afterwords? |
| 23:33.09 | xstasi | dscener: grub, yep |
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| 23:33.34 | disposable | dscener: boot knoppix afterwards, do 'chroot /dev/hdaX-debianpartition' and rerun 'grub-install /dev/hda' |
| 23:33.36 | xstasi | matadon: maybe "script" command? |
| 23:33.49 | dscener | disposable: thanks man |
| 23:34.01 | matadon | xstasi: Er...what? |
| 23:34.19 | xstasi | matadon: what do you want bash to do? |
| 23:34.25 | driver | is theer anyone here that could tell me where i could find the transfer logs on my box please? i have been told that the box was dosed but i dont believe that is the case |
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| 23:34.33 | xstasi | oh |
| 23:34.37 | disposable | dscener: boot knoppix afterwards, do 'chroot /mnt/mountpoint_of_your_debianpartition' and rerun 'grub-install /dev/hda' |
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| 23:34.41 | driver | i have check the var/logsxfer.log but that only shows ssh and ftp logs |
| 23:34.45 | xstasi | i recall there was an option but i quite forgot it |
| 23:34.48 | xstasi | man bash |
| 23:34.49 | xstasi | :p |
| 23:34.51 | disposable | dscener: a biiiiig mistake before, sorry |
| 23:34.56 | SimonRaven | matadon: run it with bash -x ./script |
| 23:35.01 | driver | but it does not show any usuage through them |
| 23:35.12 | matadon | SimonRaven: That's what I wanted; not on the manpage, though. Nrr. |
| 23:35.18 | harfooz | Hi all, Can someone please explain the difference in "done" and "fixed" on bug reports that are display in apt-listbugs? |
| 23:35.38 | xstasi | i go to bed |
| 23:35.40 | xstasi | good night |
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| 23:36.45 | debiankid | hi all can 1 give me a hand on this ? ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server. |
| 23:36.45 | debiankid | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:37.35 | beardy | harfooz: Good question. |
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| 23:38.12 | disposable | debiankid: people here are not psychic. describe problem and ask a question. |
| 23:38.21 | harfooz | beardy, I'm running etch here, and don't want to break things, but I just don't understand the difference between those terms. |
| 23:38.23 | ringo999 | what is the normal command for unrar? unrar -e "file" just gives me the switch list... |
| 23:38.41 | beardy | harfooz: Is it in the same package, and written by the same person? |
| 23:38.41 | streuner | without '-' |
| 23:38.41 | ringo999 | oh ok |
| 23:38.46 | ringo999 | yeah |
| 23:38.49 | ringo999 | just saw that |
| 23:38.59 | harfooz | let me check. |
| 23:39.02 | debiankid | disposable well im setting up my debian computer i have installed postfix , cyrus-imapd pop3d apache2 /squirrelmail |
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| 23:39.23 | disposable | debiankid: i didn't say ask me :) |
| 23:39.26 | harfooz | beardy, they are both for tetex-base and tetex-bin, but different bugs. |
| 23:39.42 | debiankid | the proble is how can i fix that on my computer ? |
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| 23:40.29 | driver | anyone know what the main bandwidth log file is called please? |
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| 23:40.32 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: I don't think setting the hotkeys fixes this kind of problem. I don't want to have to remap all of the Ctrl-Function key combos. |
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| 23:40.40 | harfooz | beardy, one of the bugs is (I believe) a potential security issue "Local Table Verification Remote Denial of Service" and the other is "tetex-base is uninstallable due to lack of update-language" |
| 23:40.56 | harfooz | both are marked as "done" -- but not "fixed" |
| 23:41.16 | harfooz | I've found some documentation about "fixed" but not "done". |
| 23:41.28 | azeem | harfooz: done > fixed |
| 23:41.41 | SimonRaven | sgeigerbot: you want i thought? i thought that your vnc app or kde has 'close window' mapped to that, so you'd only need to fix that. otherwise *shrug*. look around |
| 23:41.55 | harfooz | azeem, thanks! |
| 23:42.07 | dpower | anyone familar with gnump3d? I have an nfs mount that i would like to share thru gnump3d, so box 1(nfs server) contains the files and i need box2 (gnump3d) to share those files, however when going to the page nothing is displayed.. |
| 23:42.25 | m4lu6 | it might just be my opinion, but the #linux channel is, for lack of a better word... shite. |
| 23:42.43 | beardy | harfooz: My guess is that it means the same, possibly written by different persons. Or, that "done" means it's fixed in the best possible way, and "fixed" that it's fixed so it's working, but could be done better, but it's just what I think. |
| 23:42.44 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: Well, I doubt the xvncviewer app has mappings for all of the Ctrl-FNx keys. I think that key combo somehow sends a close window event of some sort. I don't know X well enough to know what's going on. |
| 23:42.52 | debiankid | can any1 tell me where is the cyrus-imapd config files? |
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| 23:43.04 | dpower | heh |
| 23:43.07 | SimonRaven | sgeigerbot: it's not x |
| 23:43.10 | harfooz | beardy, either way, it seems like it'll be okay for me to run the upgrade. |
| 23:43.23 | beardy | harfooz: Yes, probably. |
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| 23:43.38 | SimonRaven | debiankid: like everything else that has system-level confs they live in /etc |
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| 23:43.44 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: Maybe it's KDE. |
| 23:43.51 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 23:44.16 | adoniz | people! I dont have /etc/sysconfig/ipchains file! what do I do? |
| 23:44.50 | dpower | any thoughts on that anyone? |
| 23:44.54 | debiankid | SimonRaven nope the conf file is not there i can c there only imapd.conf where is the cyrus.conf |
| 23:44.58 | abrotman | adoniz: what would that file do?!?! |
| 23:45.00 | SimonRaven | adoniz: a) this is debian, not a RH based distro; b) WTF are you using ipchains? |
| 23:45.02 | beardy | adoniz: Use iptables, ipchains went out long ago. And /etc/sysconfig? Isn't that redhat or something? |
| 23:45.09 | SimonRaven | debiankid: should be there |
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| 23:45.16 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 23:45.16 | dpkg | i heard debstats is managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
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| 23:46.05 | harfooz | beardy, upgrade is complete, and I've tested it out with some of my LaTeX files -- it's running just fine! |
| 23:46.16 | beardy | harfooz: Nice. |
| 23:46.35 | harfooz | beardy and azeem -- thanks for listening and for the help! |
| 23:46.38 | justletters | hello! i have 1024 memory. i find this to be very strange; cat /proc/meminfo |grep MemTotal: |
| 23:46.41 | justletters | MemTotal: 906660 kB |
| 23:46.42 | mhall | beardy: mmhmm; sysconfig == rootcrap |
| 23:47.00 | mhall | justletters: kernel eats memory |
| 23:47.02 | abrotman | justin: uname -a |
| 23:47.09 | matadon | justletters: You likely have a video card that eats up a portion of your RAM. |
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| 23:47.21 | beardy | mhall: rootcrap? |
| 23:47.25 | abrotman | matadon: 100MB? |
| 23:47.34 | justletters | how can I determine where the memory goes? |
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| 23:47.38 | abrotman | justletters: uname -a |
| 23:47.49 | justletters | Linux shell 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:48.01 | abrotman | justletters: what's your CPU ? |
| 23:48.04 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: Well, using Ctrl-Tab and Ctrl-Shift-Tab also kill the xvncviewer window. What do you think might be causing this? |
| 23:48.12 | Goat25 | justletters: top |
| 23:48.16 | justletters | 1.7ghz. or you mean the load? |
| 23:48.29 | abrotman | holy crap people .. his system is using it .. it doesn't see it .. pay attention |
| 23:48.36 | abrotman | justletters: install a -686 kernel |
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| 23:48.41 | abrotman | err isn't using it |
| 23:48.44 | beardy | sgeigerbot: In KDE? Isn't that "switch workspace"? |
| 23:48.48 | SimonRaven | sgeigerbot: now i'm stumped. wtf is wrong |
| 23:48.51 | sgeigerbot | beardy: yes. |
| 23:48.51 | matadon | abrotman: Ah. |
| 23:48.57 | SimonRaven | that's switch window |
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| 23:49.01 | debiankid | hey im setting up my cyrus-imapd with squirrel mail but when i try to log in he show me this error ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server i neet a hand on that pls |
| 23:49.08 | SimonRaven | oh, nm, yes, workspace |
| 23:49.12 | matadon | abrotman: Missed an order of magnitude in my calculations. Anyone could have, even NASA... (rimshot!) |
| 23:49.40 | justletters | abrotman: i see. should'nt it come with the default x386 debian installer? i have'nt changed it since the install or anything.. |
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| 23:50.06 | RichiH | how can i a) get the literal of a command b) the nick of the guy who invoked the cmd? |
| 23:50.07 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: switching a workspace works fine (doesn't close xvncviewer) when I use the mouse to switch workspaces. However, I haven't yet found a keystroke combo that switches from the xvncviewer workspace to another without closing the xvncviewer application. |
| 23:50.08 | abrotman | justletters: a 386 can't address 1GB of RAM .. so they leave the option out .. assuming you'd be smart enough to install the kernel for your CPU |
| 23:50.11 | RichiH | with dpkg, the bot, of course |
| 23:50.27 | dondelelcaro | order of magnitudes can be caught fairly simply; it's the scalar multipliers that are a PITA. |
| 23:50.28 | abrotman | RichiH: literal cmd: blah (.*?) |
| 23:50.29 | justletters | abrotman: i see :) i'll google for it |
| 23:50.40 | justletters | the right kernel |
| 23:50.41 | abrotman | RichiH: factinfo cmd: blah (.*?) |
| 23:50.45 | abrotman | justletters: you already have it |
| 23:50.56 | abrotman | justletters: are you using etch/sid ? |
| 23:51.00 | Broomy | hi i was doing a netinstall and i think it timed out, maybe it was a bad mirror, i think my debian system still installed, but im missing x.org a WM and so on, what should i do? |
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| 23:51.20 | tarzeau | Broomy: install the missing things? |
| 23:51.20 | azeem | Broomy: did you select desktop environment? |
| 23:51.25 | beardy | Broomy: Install them, if you want them. |
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| 23:51.26 | tarzeau | Broomy: x-window-system-core wmaker |
| 23:51.35 | tarzeau | Broomy: screen zsh nethack gnustep |
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| 23:51.37 | debiankid | hey im setting up my cyrus-imapd with squirrel mail but when i try to log in he show me this error ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server i neet a hand on that pls? |
| 23:51.37 | abrotman | who the hell wants wmaker ? |
| 23:51.41 | RichiH | abrotman: no, i mean if you invoke !ops, i would want to have your nick in the calling |
| 23:51.43 | tarzeau | abrotman: me! |
| 23:51.43 | letix | hi i wanna install an ftp server to my debian boy |
| 23:51.44 | azeem | or gnustep |
| 23:51.44 | letix | hi i wanna install an ftp server to my debian box |
| 23:51.46 | justletters | abrotman: what's that.. |
| 23:51.51 | abrotman | RichiH: i'm not an op :) |
| 23:51.54 | letix | which pkg is the server? |
| 23:51.56 | abrotman | justletters: paste your sources somewhere |
| 23:51.57 | abrotman | !paste |
| 23:51.57 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 23:52.03 | RichiH | abrotman: not what i meant, either :) |
| 23:52.04 | bltzfsck | i have an ipod mounted on /mnt/ipod but can't see all the directory structure. none of the photo capability is there |
| 23:52.07 | beardy | tarzeau: slashem bsdgames <favourite editor if not installed> |
| 23:52.10 | thingfish | Broomy: you might try base-config. |
| 23:52.11 | abrotman | RichiH: which command ? |
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| 23:52.27 | tarzeau | beardy: emacs mc filters supertransball2 mazeofgalious opencubicplayer |
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| 23:52.33 | Broomy | thingfish, what does base-config do? |
| 23:52.36 | justletters | abrotman: my apt sources? : |
| 23:52.38 | abrotman | tarzeau: stop already .. noone uses that stuff |
| 23:52.38 | thingfish | Broomy: that will allow you to redo, if need be, several things. |
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| 23:52.47 | Broomy | ok thanks |
| 23:52.47 | abrotman | justletters: yes .. /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:52.48 | RichiH | <someguy> !ops the channel is burning -> op, op, op, op, op: the channel is burning (someguy) |
| 23:52.49 | beardy | tarzeau: ah yes, filters |
| 23:52.51 | RichiH | that's what i meant |
| 23:52.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: many people do |
| 23:53.09 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:53.10 | robin_sz | letix; apt-cache search ftpd |
| 23:53.16 | mhall | thingfish: 'lo |
| 23:53.22 | thingfish | hey mhall |
| 23:53.30 | mhall | thingfish: it's friday |
| 23:53.34 | SimonRaven | oh of course *now* that i'm upgrading the stupid perl bug hits like a tonne of bricks |
| 23:53.37 | beardy | !smite abrotman |
| 23:53.43 | thingfish | mhall: it certainly is. |
| 23:53.45 | abrotman | RichiH: /msg dpkg literal cmd: ops (.*?) |
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| 23:53.51 | mhall | thingfish: fuck it, it's 5PM in Utah. I'll drink to the Mormons. |
| 23:53.58 | abrotman | tarzeau: you didn't even ask him wwhat he wanted to install |
| 23:53.59 | thingfish | hehe right on! |
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| 23:54.16 | robin_sz | letix, that will show you severl apossible ftp servers ... but you dont want to isntall any of them |
| 23:54.16 | RichiH | abrotman: yes, i got that the first time |
| 23:54.17 | thingfish | yay for bltzfsck |
| 23:54.23 | thingfish | another zappa fan I see. |
| 23:54.25 | abrotman | RichiH: /j #debian-bots |
| 23:54.32 | tarzeau | abrotman: i knew he didn-t want gnome nor kde |
| 23:54.38 | abrotman | tarzeau: shut it |
| 23:54.39 | azeem | tarzeau: how so? |
| 23:54.42 | bltzfsck | watched 200 motels only last week |
| 23:54.46 | tarzeau | azeem: he didn't mention those |
| 23:54.47 | thingfish | neat |
| 23:54.57 | bltzfsck | anybody using a newer ipod under linux? |
| 23:54.59 | azeem | tarzeau: he mentioned his install froze in the middle |
| 23:55.10 | justletters | abrotman: http://83.253.101.114/sources.list |
| 23:55.13 | streuner | why is that important at all? |
| 23:55.17 | beardy | How long is it, and where is the middle? |
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| 23:55.46 | SimonRaven | > < |
| 23:55.50 | streuner | haha |
| 23:55.52 | SimonRaven | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:55.57 | bltzfsck | thingfish: check out "happy apple" |
| 23:56.06 | thingfish | ok, will do. |
| 23:56.39 | bltzfsck | first album is "youth oriented", and no more music talk... |
| 23:56.41 | abrotman | justletters: you can't mix like that |
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| 23:57.07 | abrotman | justletters: you can't install ubuntu .. then try to run sarge stuff |
| 23:57.20 | abrotman | justletters: regardless .. apt-cache search kernel-image 2.6 686 |
| 23:57.24 | SimonRaven | that's just a dumb move |
| 23:57.35 | bltzfsck | i can manually write *.jpg files to the ipod, but then can't find 'em when it's disconnected |
| 23:57.42 | justletters | okay. apt-setup won't work so i'm having some problems. i'll try that |
| 23:57.46 | bltzfsck | the photo directory is not visible |
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| 23:58.09 | Irrumator | bltzfsck: It won't work that way |
| 23:58.14 | Irrumator | You have to sync them to the photo database |
| 23:58.31 | Irrumator | gpixpod does that, and I think it's the only application for linux which does that |
| 23:58.32 | bltzfsck | Irrumator: i can't see the photo database when it's mounted |
| 23:58.43 | bltzfsck | only music |
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| 23:58.55 | Irrumator | It won't do any good if you would see it either |
| 23:59.18 | BrenIII | I'm trying to install 2.6 kernel on a Dell PE 850....no matter how I install it, I get a pivot_root error and panic on reboot....any ideas? |
| 23:59.24 | bltzfsck | i can use it like a dumb memory stick, though, right? |
| 23:59.26 | dpower | anyone familar with gnump3d? I have an nfs mount that i would like to share thru gnump3d, so box 1(nfs server) contains the files and i need box2 (gnump3d) to share those files, however when going to the page nothing is displayed.. |
| 23:59.35 | Irrumator | bltzfsck: Nope |
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| 23:59.46 | driver | anyone know a good guide for setting up accounts that have limited BW and Diskspace? |
| 23:59.48 | bltzfsck | i put photos on it |
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| 23:59.53 | streuner | Brendon: laptop? |
| 23:59.59 | streuner | BrenO: laptop? |
