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| 00:00.21 | TR0N1C | hello |
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| 00:02.17 | Wanderer | anyone know what package I need so that apt-get will stop complaining it doesn't know what term "color_xterm" is? |
| 00:02.50 | loggygreg | romulo: try dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 00:02.57 | dumezil | when i compile something, how do i tell it to use gcc 3.3 as opposed to gcc 4.0? |
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| 00:03.18 | Jy | i love Shadowcat |
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| 00:03.23 | wireddd | ok, I have a computer with a root hard drive that is in the process of dieing, how can I copy everything over to a new drive? |
| 00:03.39 | wireddd | and make the new drive bootable? |
| 00:03.58 | x-x- | `info dd` |
| 00:04.13 | scorn | Is there a specific room I should visit to as a question about gtkmm under debian testing, specifically what is going on with using a combobox widget (why it appears to be missing eventhough it is included in documentation) |
| 00:04.14 | romulo | i wanna make my "acentos" working on my us keyboard |
| 00:04.23 | lars-ut | anyway to suppress the prompt for extra info (full name, room #, etc..,) when using 'adduser' command? |
| 00:04.26 | quik_ | wireddd: mount the harddrive |
| 00:04.28 | romulo | im brazilian and sometimes i need words with "Acentos", i digged for tutorials but didnt found none |
| 00:04.32 | quik_ | using the mount command |
| 00:04.41 | Jy | Shadowcat: how do i install apache? |
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| 00:04.47 | romulo | how i could modify my kb layout to when i press ' and e it output e+' ? |
| 00:04.51 | wireddd | quik_ I can mount and copy over all of the files, but how do I make it bootable? |
| 00:05.08 | quik_ | wireddd: edit your /etc/fstab file |
| 00:05.16 | x-x- | wireddd: dd |
| 00:05.33 | nikko | Hi... can someone tell me if SATA is useable on debian?... |
| 00:05.34 | quik_ | oh.. to boot from it? |
| 00:05.39 | quik_ | nikko: yes |
| 00:05.45 | quik_ | new kernels I believe |
| 00:05.46 | lars-ut | I've been trying 'useradd -s /bin/false username' , but it doesn't create a home dir |
| 00:06.11 | tyranix | wireddd: If it's dying, you may want to look into other utilites such as gddrescue which try harder than normal dd to rescue data in case of errors. |
| 00:06.39 | wireddd | well I havn't lost too much data yet |
| 00:06.41 | nikko | okay... so how can I check if my kernel can use SATA / do I maybe have to find some modules? |
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| 00:06.55 | x-x- | lars-ut: man adduser |
| 00:06.58 | quik_ | nikko: what kernel are you using |
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| 00:07.09 | lars-ut | x-x- tried that |
| 00:07.09 | quik_ | useradd isn't a command, its adduser I think |
| 00:07.16 | lars-ut | quik_: it is |
| 00:07.24 | nikko | 2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 00:07.32 | x-x- | get 2.6 |
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| 00:07.41 | quik_ | nikko: I know that the 2.6 kernel will |
| 00:07.53 | lars-ut | I tried using '-d /home/username' w/ useradd as well - no home created |
| 00:07.59 | quik_ | cause I installed it and did just that last week |
| 00:08.15 | wireddd | x-x-, so something like.... dd -if=/dev/hda -of=/dev/hdb |
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| 00:08.36 | x-x- | lars-ut: wrong, read the man page |
| 00:08.53 | lars-ut | x-x- I really have. |
| 00:08.56 | nikko | ok... thanks |
| 00:09.01 | lars-ut | I'll reread |
| 00:09.11 | miki1 | every time when i boot i have to run alsaconf to have sound...know anyone pls about this? |
| 00:09.14 | x-x- | wireddd: no dash |
| 00:09.19 | x-x- | man dd |
| 00:09.25 | x-x- | read |
| 00:09.43 | wireddd | yeah I am, I just put the dashes in there out of habit |
| 00:09.44 | x-x- | miki1: add it to rc |
| 00:09.55 | quik_ | does the uptime command really give you decent information to cpu usage? |
| 00:10.02 | tyranix | wireddd: I wouldn't use dd though if you're afraid of it dying and you've only lost a little data. I would copy the important data first before it dies. dd will copy everything including unused space. |
| 00:10.07 | x-x- | lars-ut: adduser --system [--home DIR] [--shell SHELL] [--no-create-home] [--uid ID] |
| 00:10.11 | quik_ | load average: 1.07, 1.13, 0.93! |
| 00:10.13 | x-x- | that's a fragment |
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| 00:10.37 | wireddd | tyranix, I already got all of the crucial data off of it |
| 00:10.42 | miki1 | x-x- can you tell me how exactly im new here |
| 00:11.36 | lars-ut | x-x- what I'm asking for is a system user? |
| 00:11.36 | x-x- | miki1: man update-rc.d |
| 00:11.36 | wireddd | x-x-, it won't matter that the drives are different sizes will it? |
| 00:11.45 | romulo | hmm do i need hotplug to use ps2 mouses? |
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| 00:12.08 | x-x- | lars-ut: adduser will create a home directory subject to DHOME, GROUPHOMES, and |
| 00:12.17 | x-x- | that's from manpages |
| 00:12.39 | loggygreg | romulo: no |
| 00:12.48 | lars-ut | x-x- that is not my question |
| 00:12.51 | romulo | loggygreg, looks like X cant find my mouse on /dev/psaux |
| 00:13.05 | lars-ut | x-x- anyway to suppress the prompt for extra info (full name, room #, etc..,) when using 'adduser' command? |
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| 00:13.37 | lars-ut | x-x- I only ran into the home problem when using useradd instead of adduser |
| 00:13.43 | x-x- | wireddd: if you want an exact copy of your system, dd is the way to go, and yes, it makes an EXACT copy of the partition |
| 00:13.56 | tyranix | romulo: Using 2.6? Did you modprobe psmouse? |
| 00:14.08 | x-x- | you can resize the destination partition with another util |
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| 00:14.38 | romulo | tyranix, yes, undedr 2.6 and i did modprobe psmouse |
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| 00:15.04 | x-x- | lars-ut: no idea, it should be possible with adduser |
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| 00:15.55 | lars-ut | Maybe my question should be related to passing stdin output to adduser so I can bypass those full name, room #, etc.., prompts |
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| 00:18.11 | x-x- | lars-ut: what about password? |
| 00:18.31 | x-x- | s/password/passwords |
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| 00:19.14 | miki1 | x-x- i get this no manual entry for update-rc.d ........ sorry for so many question but im new in deb |
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| 00:20.12 | x-x- | miki1: what did you want to know again?? |
| 00:20.20 | x-x- | bad memories :( |
| 00:20.53 | rokk1 | hello |
| 00:21.05 | miki1 | x-x- about sound dont work only if i run every time when i boot alsaconf :( |
| 00:21.05 | rokk1 | its the man from jam |
| 00:21.16 | x-x- | ok |
| 00:21.19 | piclez | hi i did something worng in aptitude and removed some important packages like lilo, telnet, how can I list all these that are deleted but not removed config? |
| 00:21.23 | x-x- | where is it located? |
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| 00:22.57 | aidan` | piclez: dpkg --list | grep ^rc |
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| 00:23.39 | piclez | aidan`: nice thanks a lot.. any way to apt-get all then back? |
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| 00:23.44 | lars-ut | x-x- this user doesn't login to a shell |
| 00:24.02 | g8se | Is there a way back machine for debian packages? Trying to find a deb for apache-ssl 1.33.6 i386, the one before the sarge1 security fix package |
| 00:24.31 | mgoetze | piclez: how are lilo and telnet important packages??? |
| 00:25.01 | saloxin | piclez: something like dpkg --list | grep ^rc | awk {' print $2 '} | xargs apt--get install |
| 00:25.22 | saloxin | mgoetze: bootloader can be handy |
| 00:25.30 | piclez | mgoetze: well maybe not this ones, but there are many others ;) |
| 00:25.33 | romulo | wheni check the devices the mouse is on devices(input) but is without a handler, what should i do, anyone? is a ps2 mouse |
| 00:25.40 | piclez | thanks saloxin |
| 00:25.51 | saloxin | piclez: untested of course :-D |
| 00:25.54 | mgoetze | saloxin: yeah but grub is superior, besides deinstalling a bootloader package doesn't actually delete the MBR or anything |
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| 00:26.20 | piclez | hehe |
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| 00:26.49 | ccg | xine aint in etch ? |
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| 00:28.34 | iku___ | hey there guys. I am having some trouble installing debian with the netinstall. I don't get any errors when installing the kernel or configuring the network at first hand, put when it comes to configuring the apt I always get an error saying that the server could not be resolved. |
| 00:28.50 | iku___ | I already checked ifconfig and eth0 seems to have the right information |
| 00:28.56 | iku___ | any idea? |
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| 00:29.01 | x-x- | check your dns entries |
| 00:29.05 | x-x- | and route |
| 00:29.08 | mgoetze | iku___: where are you getting your nameserver from? |
| 00:29.19 | iku___ | from my router |
| 00:29.22 | romulo | how to realod all services without restart? |
| 00:29.50 | x-x- | doubt it is wise te reload ALL |
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| 00:29.56 | g8se | iku___: can you ping the server by IP address, by it's dns name? |
| 00:29.59 | piclez | which package i need for configure: error: Cannot find ldap.h ? |
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| 00:30.28 | g8se | iku___: have you got a default route to your router? |
| 00:30.30 | aidan` | I have a standard problem. I have half a dozen sites, and a dozen users. How do I set up each user so they can edit the sites they have access to? |
| 00:30.35 | x-x- | piclez: apt-cache search ldap | grep dev |
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| 00:31.22 | x-x- | aidan`: ftp? |
| 00:31.33 | x-x- | or webbased filemanager |
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| 00:32.19 | roler | has anyone attached an ipod to linux and transferred songs to it? |
| 00:32.33 | x-x- | roler: google |
| 00:32.37 | piclez | x-x thankss |
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| 00:32.42 | x-x- | and no, i didn't |
| 00:32.54 | Silent_al | !tell roler about ipod |
| 00:33.00 | roler | oh cool |
| 00:33.02 | roler | gtkpod |
| 00:33.12 | loggygreg | piclez: libldap2-dev |
| 00:33.31 | iku___ | mh. even local pings don't seem to reach their destination. strange, cause i didnt say that it had any problems recognizing my network card. you guys think it might be a problem that the card is onboard? |
| 00:33.32 | rokk1 | i have |
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| 00:33.40 | rokk1 | but i use mepis |
| 00:33.46 | x-x- | iku___: no |
| 00:33.57 | piclez | loggygreg thanks, I found out using x-x search | grep :) |
| 00:34.01 | piclez | u guys rocks |
| 00:34.07 | roler | thanks :) |
| 00:34.10 | Number5 | cual es el canal en español |
| 00:34.14 | Shadowcat | !es |
| 00:34.14 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:34.35 | x-x- | heh :D |
| 00:36.24 | eeyore- | has anybody been able to find a zalman hd-160 case in the us? the USA homepage doesn't even have it |
| 00:36.30 | x-x- | iku___: start a shell and look in `ifconfig -a` and `route` IF all seems OK, try pinging your gateway and then outside |
| 00:36.33 | eeyore- | that would make a nice choice for htpc case |
| 00:36.58 | x-x- | :| |
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| 00:37.53 | iku___ | x-x-: how can i edit the route information ? |
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| 00:38.04 | iku___ | for it doesn't seem to be correct |
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| 00:38.17 | iku___ | oh |
| 00:38.17 | iku___ | no |
| 00:38.19 | iku___ | wait :D |
| 00:38.27 | x-x- | iku___: route add default gw 192.168.1.1 e.g |
| 00:38.33 | jason_ | i am running apache and i was wondering what program to utilize ftp? |
| 00:38.41 | jd_hsu | Hi, anyone familiar with pro*C? |
| 00:38.55 | x-x- | what is pro*C? |
| 00:39.12 | x-x- | jason_: refine your question |
| 00:39.18 | iku___ | should it hold something like: default 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 ? |
| 00:39.19 | x-x- | it doesn't make sense |
| 00:39.26 | mgoetze | the mipspro c compiler, no doubt |
| 00:39.27 | x-x- | apache has nothing todo with ftp |
| 00:39.33 | aidan` | x-x-: ftp |
| 00:39.41 | aidan` | well, probably scp |
| 00:40.00 | jd_hsu | it's a precompiler |
| 00:40.06 | jd_hsu | anyone? |
| 00:40.12 | x-x- | "what program to utilize ftp"? i don't understand that |
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| 00:40.27 | jason_ | ok....what is a good program to use ftp? |
| 00:40.32 | iku___ | tried pinging my gateway but even for the gateway i get a destination host unreachable |
| 00:40.41 | x-x- | you mean a ftp client? |
| 00:40.59 | jason_ | well, i wanted people to upload me programs and files |
| 00:41.12 | Silent_al | gftp ? |
| 00:41.22 | x-x- | iku___: looks ok |
| 00:41.28 | x-x- | oh |
| 00:41.34 | x-x- | he wants a ftpd |
| 00:41.38 | x-x- | vsftpd |
| 00:41.58 | iku___ | so does the ifconfig imo. |
| 00:41.59 | x-x- | iku___: using dhcp or static? |
| 00:42.04 | jason_ | thanks..i will try that |
| 00:42.10 | Silent_al | oh :) |
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| 00:42.29 | x-x- | Silent_al: see? you misunderstood him |
| 00:42.34 | iku___ | static |
| 00:42.42 | x-x- | iku___: ha! |
| 00:42.48 | Silent_al | x-x-,my fault :P |
| 00:42.50 | aidan` | how do I check if my system is up to date? |
| 00:42.52 | iku___ | ? :) |
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| 00:43.21 | x-x- | netmask is correct? |
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| 00:43.27 | robinsw | Ello, guys |
| 00:43.31 | x-x- | aidan`: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 00:43.46 | robinsw | Is there any way that I can stop GDM from starting up when the system is switched on? Only want it to start with the GDM command at a terminal |
| 00:43.55 | x-x- | iku___: also verify the ip addresses |
| 00:44.08 | x-x- | robinsw: man update-rc.d |
| 00:44.20 | iku___ | yay. netmask and ip seem fine. dunno about bcast though. what should be ther ? |
| 00:44.24 | robinsw | Thank you kindly! |
| 00:44.28 | x-x- | update-rc.d --force remove gdm |
| 00:44.33 | x-x- | or something |
| 00:44.49 | x-x- | .255 |
| 00:45.01 | x-x- | normally |
| 00:45.03 | robinsw | X-X-, will that just stop it from starting up? |
| 00:45.12 | robinsw | It'll still come up if I run GDM, won't it? |
| 00:45.17 | x-x- | robinsw: it will remove gdm from all runlevels |
| 00:45.23 | x-x- | robinsw: yes |
| 00:45.28 | robinsw | Great. |
| 00:45.34 | iku___ | ye. it's my adress with a 255 ending. |
| 00:45.36 | x-x- | by invoking: /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 00:45.56 | iku___ | so that seems to be okay too :) |
| 00:46.08 | x-x- | iku___: do you mind copy it to pastebin?? |
| 00:46.20 | iku___ | of course not :) |
| 00:46.20 | robinsw | When GDM starts, it asks for a username and password... is there any way of skipping that using the terminal? I'm running OpenSSH, so I'll start GDM like that. However, the VNC server doesn't start till I've logged in |
| 00:46.23 | ccg | anyone using ndiswrapper ? |
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| 00:46.45 | iku___ | where can i find one x-x-? :P |
| 00:46.54 | dumezil | ccg: im trying... but i don't know enough to make it work |
| 00:46.56 | x-x- | robinsw: not sure it can be done.. VNC means PAIN |
| 00:47.16 | x-x- | iku___: www.pastebin.com |
| 00:47.18 | dumezil | ccg: or rather make the whole wireless networking thing work. ndiswrapper seems to be working fine for me |
| 00:47.23 | iku___ | cheers |
| 00:47.25 | robinsw | LOL |
| 00:47.57 | robinsw | So there's no way of getting straight into GDM? Don't think there's any terminal options on GDM to start it as a user. |
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| 00:48.02 | ccg | dumezil: what card are you using ? |
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| 00:48.18 | x-x- | robinsw: why not `startx` |
| 00:48.32 | robinsw | StartX? |
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| 00:48.37 | robinsw | How's this baby work, then? |
| 00:48.38 | aidan` | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 00:48.38 | aidan` | libmysqlclient14 mysql-client-4.1 mysql-server-4.1 |
| 00:48.39 | x-x- | that will start your default window manager |
| 00:48.45 | aidan` | what's that mean? |
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| 00:48.57 | dumezil | ccg: dell truemobile 1350 |
| 00:49.00 | asg | aidan`: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 00:49.32 | x-x- | robinsw: what exactlydo you want to do? |
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| 00:50.25 | robinsw | This Linux box isn't going to have a monitor. I can access it remotely using OpenSSHD and VNC. However, can't log in to GDM remotely as the VNC server doesn't start until after GNOME login. |
| 00:50.39 | x-x- | robinsw: ok |
| 00:50.48 | robinsw | So I want to use SSH to start the GDM process and then login to get a graphical front-end |
| 00:50.52 | robinsw | COMPLICATED! :/ |
| 00:51.03 | x-x- | you can either expose it by running xdmcp |
| 00:51.18 | x-x- | or X-forwarding over ssh |
| 00:51.39 | x-x- | xdmcp can be enabled in gdm settings |
| 00:51.43 | ccg | dumezil: just download the win xp driver for that card unpack it and load the .inf file with ndiswrapper -i <.inf file> and then check with ndiswrapper -l if its loaded correctly and then type ndisrwapper -m |
| 00:51.45 | robinsw | Is there a way of starting VNC as soon as GNOME starts, x-x-? |
| 00:52.00 | x-x- | robinsw: yes you can |
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| 00:52.05 | robinsw | Yay |
| 00:52.07 | robinsw | How's this work? |
| 00:52.09 | x-x- | but you cannot start gnome remotely |
| 00:52.22 | robinsw | x-x-, I can start GNOME remotely using SSH, can't I? |
| 00:52.24 | x-x- | not that i know of |
| 00:52.33 | x-x- | never done that |
| 00:52.58 | robinsw | Connect using SSH, type gdm, wait for it to start up and then use VNC to connect graphically? |
| 00:53.11 | x-x- | you can't do that |
| 00:53.22 | x-x- | umm |
| 00:53.30 | x-x- | yes you can :D |
| 00:53.35 | robinsw | get in there! |
| 00:53.36 | robinsw | lol |
| 00:53.42 | x-x- | ok |
| 00:53.44 | robinsw | How do I start VNC as soon as GDM fires then? |
| 00:53.46 | x-x- | it is kinda risky |
| 00:53.57 | robinsw | It's on a closed network, x-x- |
| 00:54.01 | x-x- | well, first of, hook a monitor to the server |
| 00:54.07 | robinsw | On it now |
| 00:54.12 | x-x- | robinsw: then why not use xdmcp? |
| 00:54.18 | x-x- | xdmcp is alot faster |
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| 00:54.32 | robinsw | What's this xdmcp thingymabob? |
| 00:54.58 | x-x- | it enables you to connect direcly to X server |
| 00:55.00 | x-x- | remotely |
| 00:55.23 | robinsw | OK then |
| 00:55.31 | robinsw | It's being accessed from a Windows box, tho |
| 00:55.37 | robinsw | Actually, a couple of Windows boxes |
| 00:55.37 | x-x- | you will require a linux box or on windows: a third party software like xwin32 |
| 00:55.49 | robinsw | Ah |
| 00:55.52 | robinsw | xwin32 freeware? |
| 00:55.57 | x-x- | nopes |
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| 00:56.10 | x-x- | if you want free. VNC :| |
| 00:56.19 | iku___ | x-x-: http://pastebin.com/558756 |
| 00:56.22 | x-x- | ok, back to VNC then... |
| 00:56.25 | robinsw | Balls :/ |
| 00:56.34 | robinsw | VNC, go for it, x-x-! |
| 00:56.58 | x-x- | ok... i've never installed VNC |
| 00:57.07 | dumezil | ccg: yeah ive gotten that far... but i odn't know how to setup connecting to the network etc... |
| 00:57.08 | x-x- | hopefully never wil |
| 00:57.18 | x-x- | but the concept is as follow... |
| 00:57.23 | robinsw | x-x-, it's installed and running so far |
| 00:57.39 | wireddd | x-x-, dd didn't do the trick |
| 00:57.44 | x-x- | configure gdm to login automatically after say 10 seconds with a default user |
| 00:58.02 | robinsw | x-x-, going to sound really gay here... how do I do that?? |
| 00:58.21 | x-x- | change settings while in gdm |
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| 00:58.40 | x-x- | and put VNC to start when the WM loads |
| 00:58.56 | robinsw | Any idea where the setting is for default login? |
| 00:59.18 | x-x- | iku___: 0 bytes send/received... |
| 00:59.24 | x-x- | iku___: check your cables |
| 00:59.43 | iku___ | i've been online just minutes before installing. :D |
| 01:00.02 | robinsw | X-X-, is the setting in the gdm GUI? |
| 01:00.10 | x-x- | robinsw: yes |
| 01:00.21 | robinsw | x-x-... wow. Whereabouts is it? |
| 01:00.26 | x-x- | it will prompt for root password |
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| 01:01.02 | x-x- | robinsw: look around... |
| 01:01.17 | x-x- | i rarely touch gdm |
| 01:01.17 | iku___ | checked it. its perfectly plugged in |
| 01:02.01 | iku___ | are you sure that its not because of my onboard network chip? |
| 01:02.04 | x-x- | iku___: no more idea's to troubleshoot it :( it's obvious it isn't receiving anything |
| 01:02.24 | x-x- | iku___: possibly, do a google search :) |
| 01:02.38 | x-x- | eventually you will find out which module to load |
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| 01:03.03 | iku___ | okay. thanks for your help dude :) |
| 01:03.21 | x-x- | can't you enable DHCP? |
| 01:03.39 | iku___ | no. the router works with static ips :) |
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| 01:03.46 | iku___ | and its no only me in the network |
| 01:03.51 | iku___ | unfortunately :) |
| 01:03.57 | x-x- | yea...duh.. but enable it for a second to troubleshoot |
| 01:04.02 | x-x- | ok |
| 01:04.25 | x-x- | or run a dhcp server on a different pc |
| 01:04.27 | limpio | when i boot, it gives me this message: " */etc/network/options is deprecated" does this affect anything? |
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| 01:04.29 | x-x- | also possible |
| 01:04.39 | x-x- | limpio: nopes |
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| 01:04.53 | limpio | thx |
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| 01:05.08 | iku___ | is there any way i could do that on windows x-x- ? cause i have a notebook here but only windows on it |
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| 01:05.13 | x-x- | im hungry :( |
| 01:05.17 | beetlepun | hi everyone :) |
| 01:05.24 | dvs | !beer x-x- |
| 01:05.52 | x-x- | dvs: i'm not thirsty |
| 01:06.06 | xptical | so, webalizer is asking for my "rotated" log file. what is this rotation and does it happen automagically, or via cron? |
| 01:06.16 | piclez | anybody knows about pfpro? |
| 01:06.17 | beetlepun | i'm trying to change my hostname, the hostname cmd, editing /etc/host.conf and /etc/hosts doesn't help either-- even after reboot-- what am i doing wrong? |
| 01:06.28 | x-x- | iku___: God knows... |
| 01:06.30 | x-x- | umm |
| 01:06.39 | x-x- | ICS can do it i think |
| 01:06.52 | piclez | payflow pro |
| 01:06.52 | x-x- | internet connection sharing |
| 01:07.13 | x-x- | beetlepun: man hostname |
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| 01:07.52 | x-x- | xptical: ask webalizer folks |
| 01:07.54 | beetlepun | x-x-, yes, I also did man hostname and man host.conf -- |
| 01:09.11 | x-x- | brb, gotta find cookies |
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| 01:09.53 | beetlepun | xptical, you set how you want intervals set for creating new log files-- this is called rotation-- it simplifies file archiving of logs that's all |
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| 01:11.07 | aidan` | does sarge come with an sftp server? |
| 01:11.10 | wireddd | ok I have a dieing hard drive and a good hard drive,I tired to use dd to copy the drive to a new one, and I think it copied fine, but when I switch it from slave to master and try to boot off of it, lilo doesn't load. should I just try installing lilo to the new drive or what? |
| 01:11.30 | x-x- | beetlepun: did you reboot? |
| 01:11.58 | _unstable | wireddd: yes that's what I would do. |
| 01:11.59 | x-x- | aidan`: sftp = ftp tunneled tru ssh |
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| 01:12.22 | aidan` | I thought it was a completely new protocol? |
| 01:12.39 | _unstable | wireddd: I would put in the new drive, then pop in a knoppix cd, and as root type "grub-install" and then take out the disc and reboot and you should be set |
| 01:12.43 | beetlepun | aidan`, it is |
| 01:12.45 | asg | x-x-: no sftp is a protocol that acts like ftp to the user; it isn't ftp tunneled via ssh |
| 01:12.57 | x-x- | oh :D |
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| 01:13.15 | _unstable | !tell x-x- about sftp |
| 01:13.20 | x-x- | gotta look up sftp when i'm less busy |
| 01:13.36 | wireddd | _unstable, I can still boot off of the old drive |
| 01:13.47 | beetlepun | aidan`, it's an analogy, so an ssh-client should ideally support sftp as well as a login session (eg: putty on windows does) -- the server end has to have the switch on for it as well (sftp) |
| 01:13.56 | x-x- | wtf? |
| 01:14.14 | x-x- | provides ftp-like functionality over an ssh2 tunnel. "apt-get install ssh". |
| 01:14.24 | x-x- | oh well |
| 01:14.39 | aidan` | really, putty does? |
| 01:14.52 | aidan` | maybe I'm using an old version |
| 01:15.06 | x-x- | winscp |
| 01:15.14 | x-x- | why bother using sftp |
| 01:15.57 | beetlepun | aidan`, y, winscp supports sftp-- however I think sftp is available part of putty bundle as only a command-line (can be used for backends) |
| 01:16.03 | aidan` | x-x-: well, it's a secure protocol? |
| 01:16.14 | x-x- | aidan`: scp = secure copy |
| 01:16.19 | asg | x-x-: why use sftp at all when scp is perfectly servicable |
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| 01:16.38 | x-x- | asg: huh? |
| 01:16.54 | beetlepun | aidan`: ssh is secure -- so anything in it is secured .. you can do much more with it beyond the basic of file copying-- (see above I mention just two things secure shell and sftp) |
| 01:17.11 | beetlepun | aidan`( let's not get too complex here :)) |
| 01:17.14 | aidan` | :) |
| 01:17.19 | _unstable | wireddd: so type "update-grub" as root. |
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| 01:18.15 | surge | Hi, I'm installing Debian on my laptop using the netboot 2.6 kernel and image. I believe my wireless card needs an rt2500 driver. Is there a repository of pre-compiled drivers for install use? |
| 01:18.17 | beetlepun | aidan` here's something few people know--> you can use konqueror with "fish://" to a ssh server to issue a sftp session |
| 01:18.20 | iku___ | I found two forum postings with the same problem. already reported to debian but no answers to it yet :( |
| 01:18.26 | x-x- | surge: no |
| 01:18.33 | surge | x-x-: OK, thanks. |
| 01:18.46 | surge | How would I go about compiling this then, without having the kernel headers? |
| 01:19.00 | x-x- | surge: you need the headers or sources |
| 01:19.01 | surge | Or am I pretty much screwed? |
| 01:19.28 | aidan` | okay, awesome, sftp is working with winscp |
| 01:19.32 | x-x- | and gcc, build-essential, and some other packages |
| 01:20.20 | asg | surge: /msg dpkg kp |
| 01:20.27 | beetlepun | aidan`, with ssh, you can tunnel X apps as well :) |
| 01:20.42 | x-x- | he's on windows host |
| 01:20.44 | aidan` | I don't have x installed so that doesn't appeal :P |
| 01:20.46 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 01:20.46 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 01:21.04 | beetlepun | x-x-: doesn't matter -- there's a free X-server app that would make it possible |
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| 01:21.58 | beetlepun | aidan`: there's a free one somewhere online-- (cygwin is another that's a bundle load and is tricky sometimes to setup right for this) |
| 01:22.10 | x-x- | beetlepun: uhuh.. i know..xfree on cygwin and another unreliable one |
| 01:22.13 | cbrake_away | can someone point me to instructions for downloading debian 3.0 (woody) cds? |
| 01:22.13 | surge | asg: Thanks, but this install doesn't seem to have apt-get? |
| 01:22.28 | cbrake_away | there are plenty of instructions for 3.1, but I can't find anything for 3.0 ???? |
| 01:22.36 | asg | surge: then it isn't Debian. What does 'cat /etc/debian_version' say? |
| 01:22.47 | x-x- | surge: just download the packages to a flash drive and install them |
| 01:22.56 | asg | surge: make sure you run 'apt-get foo' as root, by the way |
| 01:22.57 | beetlepun | x-x-: i think cygwin is the only most reliable solution for doing this-- but I've recently been trying out vnc -- which seems pretty good |
| 01:23.06 | x-x- | or plug it onto a ethernet LAN |
| 01:23.18 | surge | asg: Mmm, no debian_version. |
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| 01:23.36 | x-x- | beetlepun: VNC is not X forwarding... |
| 01:23.36 | asg | surge: well, did you install it? |
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| 01:24.05 | beetlepun | x-x-, VNC is the idea for what a remote desktop is |
| 01:24.21 | surge | asg: No, that's what I'm trying to do. But I can't get any further without the network driver. For that I need the headers. |
| 01:24.23 | beetlepun | x-x-, but you're able to forward VNC as well |
| 01:24.41 | surge | I'll download them somehow and transfer them across. |
| 01:24.47 | x-x- | beetlepun: yes, but it is not called "X forwarding" |
| 01:24.53 | beetlepun | x-x- ? |
| 01:24.58 | x-x- | VNC is a completely different protocol |
| 01:25.13 | beetlepun | x-x- I never said it was "X forwarding" -- dunno where you seeing this |
| 01:25.17 | x-x- | i'd say: SSH tunneling |
| 01:25.18 | vars | hey how do i install kdelibs4? |
| 01:25.19 | asg | surge: what is the name of the non-Debian linux distribution you are installing? |
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| 01:25.30 | beetlepun | x-x-: ? |
| 01:25.32 | beetlepun | bleah |
| 01:25.35 | vars | from sources, what deb http do i need to get? |
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| 01:25.56 | asg | vars: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 01:26.03 | x-x- | beetlepun: :D i know i'm being a bitch, just ignore me |
| 01:26.04 | surge | asg: I grabbed the kernel and image from here: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/2.6/ |
| 01:26.11 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search kdelib |
| 01:26.46 | vars | jetscreamer, whas that for me? |
| 01:26.50 | dvs | Finally, an alias i recognize! |
| 01:27.02 | asg | surge: if the net installer doesn't have a kernel that supports your network interface card(s), then you will need to get a full Debian install disc, install Debian, and then compile a kernel with support for your hardware. |
| 01:27.03 | jetscreamer | hey so initrd loads under 4mb possible kernel overwrite with 2.4.27.. and it does seem to overwrite... how to fix |
| 01:27.07 | x-x- | surge: can't you hook up the laptop to an ethernet LAN? |
| 01:27.11 | beetlepun | x-x-"VNC is a completely different protocol", so is X -- what's your point? |
| 01:27.23 | vars | what is debian 3.1? woody or sarge? |
| 01:27.27 | asg | vars: sarge |
| 01:27.29 | jetscreamer | vars yeah |
| 01:27.30 | surge | asg: OK, thanks, I'll go that route. |
| 01:27.33 | x-x- | you were claiming VNC was X forwarding... |
| 01:27.46 | surge | x-x-: Nope, I don't have an ethernet adapter for it. |
| 01:27.47 | beetlepun | x-x-: quote me |
| 01:28.06 | x-x- | and that's NOT correct, in no means |
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| 01:28.20 | beetlepun | x-x-: do you see these letter? "quote me" |
| 01:28.43 | beetlepun | i never claimed anything-- you can tunnel anything you want.. as well as forward anything you want |
| 01:28.50 | x-x- | nvm |
| 01:28.54 | x-x- | i know |
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| 01:29.02 | x-x- | maybe i misread it somwhere |
| 01:29.08 | beetlepun | x-x-: I don't believe you are helpful..pay more attention.. |
| 01:29.17 | x-x- | too tired to go through this huge log |
| 01:29.27 | x-x- | ok |
| 01:29.38 | x-x- | i understand what you mean |
| 01:29.51 | aidan` | should I put "NameVirtualHost *" at the top of each file in sites-enabled? or only in the first one |
| 01:30.00 | vars | are dpkg and apt-get connected? |
| 01:30.26 | aidan` | vars: yes, apt-get uses dpkg |
| 01:30.32 | asg | vars: apt-get provides the networking plumbing to dpkg |
| 01:30.43 | aidan` | oh oh |
| 01:31.05 | vars | cool |
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| 01:31.18 | vars | NLord, what the heck was that |
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| 01:32.07 | vars | how do i find out what video card i have? |
| 01:32.18 | vars | and then reconfigure x so it uses it? |
| 01:32.26 | asg | vars: lspci -v ; /msg dpkg set up x |
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| 01:33.59 | davisc | Hi, guys |
| 01:34.11 | davisc | Any idea how I can make a binary start up each time Linux starts? |
| 01:34.11 | vars | hi davisc |
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| 01:34.41 | nev | aidan`: why not put NameVirtualHost in main httpd.cong? |
| 01:34.46 | nev | httpd.conf |
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| 01:35.31 | aidan` | nev: that's where I was used to seeing it, but under the default setup it's in the first virtualhost file |
| 01:35.52 | davisc | Any ideas how I can make a proggy start when Linux starts? It's a MUD server. |
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| 01:36.10 | nev | it doesnt really make any sense there... I would move it to main config... |
| 01:36.17 | dvs | davis: man update-rc.d |
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| 01:36.20 | shadowarts | is there a way i can just remove everything that has to do with x/gnome at once? |
| 01:36.24 | davisc | DVS, thanks :) |
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| 01:36.43 | bunny_cute | hi |
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| 01:38.14 | aidan` | nev: done, ta |
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| 01:39.46 | beetlepun | davisc: use the skeleton file in /etc/init.d |
| 01:40.01 | ativan | !alsa-oneliner |
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| 01:40.37 | dvs | !alsa one-liner |
| 01:40.37 | dpkg | somebody said alsa one-liner was apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
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| 01:40.57 | beetlepun | shadowarts: what are you wanting to remove-- all X apps? (cmd tasksel) |
| 01:41.12 | ativan | !2.4 alsa one-liner |
| 01:41.12 | dpkg | methinks 2.4 alsa one-liner is to install alsa on a 2.4 kernel: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-modules-$(uname -r) && alsaconf ; if you are using a 2.6 kernel ask me about <alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
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| 01:41.43 | shadowarts | beetlepun, i did a dist-upgrade to unstable and xgot a little messed up |
| 01:41.53 | shadowarts | and tasksel didnt seem to help |
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| 01:42.46 | beetlepun | shadowarts: well then you have to face unstable then-- try using report bug and report any misbehaving packages.. maybe it's not x that's dysfunctioning |
| 01:43.13 | shogunx | shadowarts did you move from xfree86 to xorg? |
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| 01:44.34 | sparr | so, the 8178 nvidia drivers are crashing all over the place. how might i go about downgrading to 8174? |
| 01:44.54 | malf | If I want to run multiple distinct sessions of X windows locally do I need to do it via vncservers or is there another more convenient way handy? |
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| 01:45.36 | shadowarts | beetlepun, still here? sry have a pretty bad wireless connection :D |
| 01:45.39 | dvs | malf: I haven't tried it myself but you might try "startx -- :1" |
| 01:46.07 | malf | dvs: good call. I whiffed on the hyphens earlier, maybe that'll do it |
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| 01:46.42 | malf | dvs: yep that did it |
| 01:46.43 | zethreth | I'm geting this message Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: -> when I try and run my program. The strange thing is, I've never seen this before with running the same program on my old install of debian stable. So I tried specifying the CLASSPATH variable to the j2sdk directory and to the directory containing the .jar files and it seems to make no difference. |
| 01:46.45 | malf | dvs: thanks a bunch |
| 01:46.48 | davisc | Argh! Need to use the MAKE command, but it's not installed. |
| 01:46.51 | davisc | How does this work? |
| 01:46.58 | gravity | davisc: aptitude install make |
| 01:47.00 | beetlepun | shadowarts, i don't know why you think X is misbehaving when it could be any bottom layer library file.. maybe you want to try running some tests and finding out what's hanging.. |
| 01:47.11 | bunny_cute | l |
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| 01:47.23 | beetlepun | davisc use tasksel |
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| 01:47.44 | davisc | gravity + beetlepun - THANK YOU |
| 01:48.01 | bunny_cute | hi |
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| 01:50.23 | dvs | malf: No prob |
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| 01:50.45 | davisc | Guys, think I may be missing a package. Just tried to MAKE in a folder, and got some missing header messages: |
| 01:50.46 | davisc | imc.c:14:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory |
| 01:51.19 | davisc | Any ideas at all? |
| 01:51.24 | aidan` | where are the init scripts? |
| 01:51.32 | davisc | In the same folder |
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| 01:51.41 | aidan` | sorry, different question :) |
| 01:51.46 | davisc | lol |
| 01:51.48 | davisc | Sorry |
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| 01:51.59 | mateon | aidan`: /etc/init.d |
| 01:52.04 | dvs | davisc: What the heck does that have to do with ALSA? ;-) |
| 01:52.11 | aidan` | mateon: is there an accessor like `service`? |
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| 01:52.16 | davisc | LOL |
| 01:52.24 | davisc | I'm trying to MAKE a binary |
| 01:52.24 | shogunx | davids see what packages have string.h at pdo.debian.net |
| 01:52.38 | davisc | I made it on my other Debian box |
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| 01:52.47 | davisc | So I know that it's just a missing package. |
| 01:52.57 | davisc | I've used apt-get install gcc, and also apt-get install make |
| 01:53.03 | davisc | But there's something else floating around! |
| 01:53.08 | dvs | davisc: apt-get install build-essential ? |
| 01:53.10 | mateon | aidan`: hrm, what do you mean by that? what do you want to do? |
| 01:53.28 | davisc | dvs -- Sounds about right!! ^_^ |
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| 01:54.00 | davisc | Right, it's installing... let's see how that goes! |
| 01:54.07 | aidan` | mateon: my old distro I typed `service apache2 restart`, is there something like that, or do I do `/etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
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| 01:54.23 | mhall | aidan`: etc init.d blah blah blah |
| 01:54.32 | mateon | aidan`: invoke-rc/d apache restart |
| 01:54.33 | voxvirus | bye |
| 01:54.34 | mateon | darn |
| 01:54.40 | mateon | invoke-rc.d |
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| 01:54.47 | davisc | MAGIC! |
| 01:54.50 | mhall | aidan`: if you get advanced bash completion working it can autocomplete most of the keywords |
| 01:54.50 | davisc | Thanks, dvs! |
| 01:54.58 | spanglesontoast | anyone know why when I upgrade to etch |
| 01:54.59 | dvs | davisc: You're welcome |
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| 01:55.04 | spanglesontoast | it gets stuck at gdm |
| 01:55.19 | spanglesontoast | I've now reinstalled sarge |
| 01:55.26 | sonic | Hello? Anybody have any experience with xen? |
| 01:55.31 | spanglesontoast | but just wondering if ati support in xorg is bad |
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| 01:55.45 | mateon | aidan`: but it propably does no harm by running it with /etc/init.d/apache restart, though I heard that invoke-rc.d is The Right Way |
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| 01:56.18 | Stevie | Greetings, mortals |
| 01:56.32 | marx | !gtfo |
| 01:56.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, gtfo is get the fsck out |
| 01:56.46 | Stevie | lol |
| 01:56.47 | aidan` | mateon: where is that folder? |
| 01:56.54 | asg | Stevie: no mortals here, just cats. Move along |
| 01:57.00 | mateon | aidan`: that is a command |
| 01:57.05 | aidan` | ah :) |
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| 01:57.27 | Stevie | Well then |
| 01:57.29 | aidan` | what's with the .d :/ |
| 01:57.32 | Stevie | Greetings, mortals and cats |
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| 01:58.16 | asg | aidan`: .d == directory holding configs relevant to the prefix |
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| 01:58.32 | Mondongo | hey there -- my .xsession file grows very big! I've been googling about it and everyone complains, but couldn't find anything about fixing it... redirecting it to /dev/null would work? :) |
| 01:59.01 | asg | Mondongo: periodically type ':> ~/.xsession' |
| 01:59.06 | Stevie | you know your system is out of date when you look at it and see it's running woody -- installed as 'testing' |
| 01:59.13 | aidan` | asg: but it's a script, not a directory? |
| 01:59.27 | asg | aidan`: /etc/init.d is a directory, /etc/init.d/foo is a script |
| 01:59.46 | Mondongo | hey, cool |
| 01:59.47 | aidan` | asg: yes, but invoke-rc.d |
| 01:59.52 | Mondongo | Asg: thanks! |
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| 02:00.11 | Stevie | asg: what does ':> ~/.xession' do ? |
| 02:00.21 | asg | Stevie: truncate ~/.xsession |
| 02:00.32 | asg | Stevie: '> ~/.xsession' is more terse but not as cheerful |
| 02:00.38 | Stevie | ahh |
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| 02:00.49 | Stevie | I didn't know you could do that with, uh, no command |
| 02:00.53 | mateon | aidan`: I suppose that it "invokes" the scripts, similar to update-rd.d which updates the scripts |
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| 02:01.13 | Mondongo | Stevie: I guess it's like outputting NULL.... very clever! |
| 02:01.28 | Stevie | cp /dev/null ~/.xsession |
| 02:02.06 | beetlepun | mateon: man update-rc.d shows similar commands in the SEE ALSO/ section.. |
| 02:02.20 | Mondongo | and, out of curiosity, is there anyway to make X stop outputting crap to .xsession? :) |
| 02:02.23 | Stevie | find -true -and -false . > ~/.xsession |
| 02:02.33 | Stevie | ln -fs /dev/null ~/.xsession |
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| 02:02.40 | Stevie | :) |
| 02:02.44 | asg | aidan`: iirc, invoke-rc.d is for use in scripts and not officially (tm) for use by people ;) |
| 02:02.51 | ccg | how to load a module from a specific directory with modprobe |
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| 02:03.02 | Stevie | Mondongo: I think that last thing would do it pretty well *g* |
| 02:03.03 | xptical | what do I need to do to make apache rotate log files? And what's the advantage of rotating log files? |
| 02:03.05 | deadcat | ccg: modprobe ./blah.ko ? |
| 02:03.14 | asg | deadcat: s/modprobe/insmod/ |
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| 02:03.23 | deadcat | asg: thanks |
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| 02:03.51 | asg | deadcat: however.... |
| 02:03.54 | asg | !insmod |
| 02:03.54 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
| 02:03.55 | deadcat | asg: i was gonna say insmod but i figure someone will tell me to use modprobe over insmod and rmmod (= |
| 02:03.57 | Agrajag- | does anyone know if it's possible to somehow tell rsync to only look at files newer than a certain date? |
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| 02:05.06 | Agrajag- | because after some time i want to burn all the backup files onto a dvd, and delete the backed up files. i obviously don't want to download all those i've just burned/deleted next time rsync runs |
| 02:05.30 | asg | !insmod is also Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer |
| 02:05.31 | dpkg | okay, asg |
| 02:05.54 | ccg | deadcat: no, it ignores ./ then |
| 02:07.21 | ccg | n0190:/home/oc/ndiswrapper-1.10/driver# find ./ -name ndiswrapper.ko |
| 02:07.21 | ccg | ./ndiswrapper.ko |
| 02:07.21 | ccg | n0190:/home/oc/ndiswrapper-1.10/driver# modprobe ./ndiswrapper.ko |
| 02:07.21 | ccg | fatal_: Module ./ndiswrapper.ko not found. |
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| 02:07.24 | Aragorn_Guardian | xptical: logs grow too much |
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| 02:07.51 | xptical | how big are we talking here? |
| 02:07.56 | deadcat | ccg: use insmod ./bha.ko |
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| 02:08.00 | Stevie | bzip2 -9 ? |
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| 02:08.59 | ccg | deadcat: does insmod even work on 2.6 ? |
| 02:09.24 | deadcat | ccg: try doesnt hurt |
| 02:09.30 | sancho___ | debian's exim4 configuration leaves me a little confused. for example, i don't seem to have any logging occurring on the syslog mail facility, even when i have restarted the exim4 service. i can't tell the correct way to make changes to the config - for example, configuring a smarthost/relay server. help? |
| 02:09.34 | ccg | didnt work |
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| 02:10.08 | deadcat | move it to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ then. |
| 02:10.15 | sparr | arent exim logs in /var/log/exim4/ ? |
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| 02:10.44 | sancho___ | sparr: maybe so. i'd expected it to log to syslog. |
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| 02:10.56 | Stevie | not everything logs to syslog |
| 02:11.07 | sparr | what is syslog? |
| 02:11.14 | Stevie | /var/log/syslog |
| 02:11.20 | sparr | hmm |
| 02:11.23 | alch__ | E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing. .. How'd I manage to do that? .. Happened after apt-get remove apt-cacher .. How would I go about fixing it? |
| 02:11.24 | sparr | ive used debian for 5 years |
| 02:11.30 | sparr | and never looked at that log file |
| 02:11.33 | Stevie | haha |
| 02:11.42 | Stevie | Well, you learn something new every day. |
| 02:11.47 | Stevie | Take a look at it. |
| 02:12.05 | Stevie | Incidentally, have you ever looked at dmesg as well? |
| 02:12.39 | sparr | yes, i look at dmesg all the time |
| 02:12.49 | sparr | especially right now with my nvidia drivers broken as badly as they are |
| 02:12.51 | Stevie | dmesg is fun, see what's going wrong with your drives |
| 02:12.52 | sparr | speaking of which... |
| 02:12.59 | sparr | how can i get an older nvidia driver The Debian Way? |
| 02:13.01 | sancho___ | sparr: syslog is actually the canonical unix interface for accepting log messages from parts of the system |
| 02:13.28 | asg | Stevie: /var/log/auth.log is something that should be monitored as well |
| 02:13.34 | Stevie | what's that one? |
| 02:13.55 | Stevie | dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file '/etc/alsa/modutils': Directory not empty |
| 02:13.55 | Stevie | hrm |
| 02:13.56 | sparr | failed logins i bet |
| 02:13.58 | asg | Stevie: all the AUTHPRIV facility logging |
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| 02:14.29 | sancho___ | sparr: so as far as syslog would go, you should be able to tell exim to log to syslog and then you could capture and manipulate any MAIL facility logging that exim does with syslog. |
| 02:15.05 | asg | sancho___: you can; exim logs to /var/log/exim{4}/* by default |
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| 02:15.15 | sancho___ | asg: do you know what would be requird to get exim4 to syslog instead of log to /var/log/exim4? |
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| 02:16.20 | asg | sancho___: it's a config option, though I don't remember offhand which one. /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/spec.txt.gz will tell you. |
| 02:16.29 | sancho___ | asg: thx, will look |
| 02:17.01 | Stevie | wtf |
| 02:17.22 | Stevie | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libbonobo2-common (=2.8.1-2) but 2.2.3-1 is installed |
| 02:17.22 | asg | wtf (6) - translates acronyms for you |
| 02:17.27 | Stevie | how do I fix this |
| 02:17.38 | Stevie | (besides the obvious "install 2.8.1-2") |
| 02:17.54 | asg | Stevie: are you mixing debian versions? |
| 02:18.02 | Stevie | I'm trying not to |
| 02:18.20 | Stevie | I want to get to Etch from Woody, so going to Sarge first |
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| 02:18.43 | Stevie | (when I first setup this laptop, Woody was testing) |
| 02:19.00 | Stevie | I just did an apt-get -t stable dist-upgrade |
| 02:19.06 | asg | Stevie: well, you need to get Woody up to its level first, then go to sarge, then etch. |
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| 02:20.21 | Jackel | Hello, could someone suggest a light weight video player? |
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| 02:20.29 | Stevie | can I ask apt *why* 2.2.3-1 is to be installed? |
| 02:20.48 | asg | Stevie: apt-cache policy foo |
| 02:21.19 | Stevie | Installed: 2.2.3-1 |
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| 02:21.59 | asg | Stevie: yes, what about the rest (the candidate and where it is coming from) |
| 02:22.00 | BFA|WoRsT | hi everybody, i lost a screen :|, with ps aux i see the proccess still running at pts/7 can i reattach it like that ? |
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| 02:22.41 | asg | BFA|WoRsT: a screen as in screen(1)? |
| 02:22.42 | Stevie | Candidate: 2.10.1-1 |
| 02:22.45 | BFA|WoRsT | yes |
| 02:23.08 | asg | BFA|WoRsT: try screen -x or screen -rd |
| 02:23.17 | Jackel | Maybe if i rephrase, does anyone know of a lightweight video player? |
| 02:23.20 | BFA|WoRsT | btw asg what the heel is (1) i also see that in man pages |
| 02:23.21 | Stevie | libbonobo2-common: Conflicts: bonobo-activation |
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| 02:23.33 | Stevie | BFA|WoRsT: example: man 1 screen |
| 02:23.36 | BFA|WoRsT | screen -x did it thnx :) |
| 02:23.37 | BFA|WoRsT | ah |
| 02:23.39 | asg | BFA|WoRsT: the section of the manual. 'man man' to see the standard sections |
| 02:23.39 | Stevie | shows screen(1) |
| 02:23.46 | BFA|WoRsT | ok thnx!!! |
| 02:23.49 | BFA|WoRsT | :) |
| 02:23.56 | Stevie | man 69 screen would show screen(69) if it existed |
| 02:24.00 | BFA|WoRsT | aha |
| 02:24.05 | federico | Ello, all... still getting no joy trying to build an app. Using MAKE, but it's crashing out. Installed packages: make, gcc, build-essential |
| 02:24.05 | BFA|WoRsT | handy! |
| 02:24.12 | federico | Anything else I need to compile a c app? |
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| 02:24.20 | BFA|WoRsT | federico ist there a log ? |
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| 02:24.32 | BFA|WoRsT | that sais where it fails..? |
| 02:24.34 | kanotix | hi |
| 02:24.37 | Stevie | hrm |
| 02:24.41 | Stevie | that's interesting |
| 02:24.42 | asg | federico: any headers/libs required by the app. Install 'build-essential' if you haven't already |
| 02:24.52 | Stevie | asg: I think I found a bug in apt's dependency tracker |
| 02:25.05 | mkx | ;) |
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| 02:25.35 | asg | Stevie: hmmm? |
| 02:26.09 | Stevie | it needed to install Foo, and to install Foo it needed recent versions of Foo-A and Foo-B, each of which depends on the other, and explicitly conflicts with older versions. I had older versions of Foo-A and Foo-B. Apt wasn't bright enough to realize it could upgrade both at the same time, probably because of the conflicts |
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| 02:26.42 | federico | BFA|WoRsT, yes there is |
| 02:26.46 | federico | I'll pastebin it, one sec |
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| 02:27.15 | asg | Stevie: if you are going from woody (pre-stable) to sarge, that isn't supported. A stable woody->sarge requires the use of aptitude according to the upgrade instructions. |
| 02:27.23 | BFA|WoRsT | federico it was just a hint, i'm a compleet noob that probably couldn't help you any further but i'll try |
| 02:27.31 | sancho___ | Stevie: or apt is smart enough to realize that trampling conflicts is a good way to break an otherwise stable system and bails out early so you can rely on your human intelligence to fix the matter. |
| 02:27.50 | federico | Crash log from trying to MAKE an app - http://weller.pastebin.com/558887 |
| 02:27.51 | Stevie | sancho___: could be :) |
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| 02:28.00 | federico | I've installed MAKE, GCC and BUILD-ESSENTIAL |
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| 02:28.08 | federico | But there seems to be some header (.h) files missing |
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| 02:28.38 | Stevie | which one, THISIS1970ANDEVERYTHINGMUSTBECAPS.h ? |
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| 02:28.42 | asg | federico: what command did you type to produce that output? |
| 02:28.45 | federico | NO |
| 02:28.46 | federico | lol |
| 02:28.50 | federico | Typed MAKE ALL |
| 02:28.51 | asg | Stevie: s/1970/DOS/ |
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| 02:28.55 | hans0lo | I recently upgraded to udev, and now I can't mount my USB drive -- /dev/sda1 doesn't exist. Where did they move it to? |
| 02:28.58 | federico | LOL @ Stevie |
| 02:29.02 | Stevie | even DOS could handle lowercase input, asg |
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| 02:29.41 | Stevie | man, getting kde working is going to be a bitch |
| 02:29.41 | asg | Stevie: true though it didn't differentiate between the two |
| 02:30.00 | asg | Stevie: #debian-kde might also be a helpful resource if you run into problems |
| 02:30.05 | Stevie | well |
| 02:30.07 | Stevie | here's the deal |
| 02:30.25 | Stevie | when I put the laptop together, the version of KDE in woody was like v2.2 or something |
| 02:30.28 | federico | Anyone? Any ideas on how this make thingy works? Cos it's got me banging my head on the wall |
| 02:30.36 | asg | hans0lo: when you plug your usb drive in, check the output of 'dmesg'; it should tell you. |
| 02:30.43 | Stevie | so I went off and installed somebody else's backport of kde 3 to woody |
| 02:31.09 | Stevie | which, of course, means that my dist-upgrade is uninstalling that version of kde |
| 02:31.14 | asg | federico: check the README or INSTALL to see if you need to './configure --foo --bar' before typing 'make install' |
| 02:31.23 | federico | OK, asg, will do |
| 02:32.03 | Stevie | speaking of which, I haven't forayed into the Linux world lately. How's ACPI support going? |
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| 02:32.17 | asg | Stevie: still crap, but getting better |
| 02:32.22 | federico | asg, no joy. Says just go to the src directory and type make |
| 02:32.29 | federico | And that's what I get : http://weller.pastebin.com/558887 |
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| 02:32.44 | Stevie | what exactly are you trying to accomplish, federico? |
| 02:32.55 | asg | Stevie: it's more dependant on the type of laptop you have (tuxmobile.org and acpi.sourceforge.net can provide more info) |
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| 02:33.24 | Stevie | asg: Fortunately, this laptop doesn't need any fancy ACPI stuff. It serves a single purpose. |
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| 02:33.31 | asg | Stevie: battery, power and throttling, some thermals are mostly supported; suspend and hibernate are still problematic. |
| 02:33.32 | federico | Stevie, trying to compile a MUD. |
| 02:33.34 | Stevie | well, actually, three purposes, but they're all very similar |
| 02:33.37 | federico | SMAUG, to be precise. |
| 02:33.50 | Stevie | federico: updatedb && locate zlib.h |
| 02:33.52 | asg | Stevie: I still wish laptops used APM. At least that *worked* |
| 02:33.55 | hans0lo | asg: it says /dev/sda -- sda1 missing. I did a cfdisk /dev/sda, and then a few seconds later sda1 appeared. Know what's going on? |
| 02:34.09 | Stevie | asg: Well, the problem with APM was that, uh, it didn't really *work*. |
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| 02:34.21 | Stevie | It *worked* the way your average Windows 98 machine worked. |
| 02:34.21 | asg | hans0lo: I don't, udev is a funky beast that I try to avoid. Someone else may know though. |
| 02:34.42 | davis | hello |
| 02:34.46 | Stevie | hello davis |
| 02:35.11 | asg | Stevie: true but I was able to suspend Debian, OpenBSD, and read my battery stats. |
| 02:35.29 | Stevie | asg: APM often suffered from a chronic failure to resume from suspension |
| 02:35.59 | Stevie | depending on things like which interrupt, if any, the kernel was processing when the BIOS decided to suspend |
| 02:36.09 | asg | Stevie: I never saw that; I've experienced laptops with multi-month uptimes with APM (Dell CPis and TP R40s) |
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| 02:36.39 | Stevie | asg: Well, it would depend on your BIOS. And remember that most vendor BIOSes are totally crap. |
| 02:36.49 | asg | Stevie: agreed |
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| 02:37.17 | DUMAiSO | Can anyone tell me what is the last version of ruby interpreter in debian packages? |
| 02:37.21 | asg | Stevie: acpi can mostly be tweaked but you have to hack it or find someone who has done that for your model. |
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| 02:37.29 | asg | DUMAiSO: for which version of Debian? |
| 02:38.33 | DUMAiSO | asg, sarge or sid... |
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| 02:38.40 | asg | !info ruby sarge |
| 02:38.43 | asg | !info ruby sid |
| 02:38.50 | dpkg | ruby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB |
| 02:38.58 | Stevie | asg: Anyway, this laptop serves exactly one purpose (with three minor variations). It records tracing/debugging information from the serial port of a device inside a vending machine. |
| 02:39.16 | asg | Stevie: ah, so it's always on or only on when you are on a call? |
| 02:39.27 | Stevie | exactly |
| 02:39.34 | federico | Still not compiling... log is at http://weller.pastebin.com/558900 |
| 02:39.42 | federico | Trying to compile a MUD codebase. |
| 02:39.53 | asg | Stevie: you should look at an embedded device or SBC (i.e. soekris) |
| 02:40.08 | federico | Tried your suggestion, Stevie |
| 02:40.16 | Stevie | It's actually meant to be used by one of my less-computer-savvy coworkers, since *I* am a bit too valuable to e.g. send to Florida to capture data on a freaking vending machine |
| 02:40.20 | Stevie | federico: And what came of it? |
| 02:40.23 | DUMAiSO | asg, thanks |
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| 02:40.38 | asg | federico: apt-get install zlib1g-dev |
| 02:40.41 | federico | Nothing. Tried locate zlib.h (returned nothing) and also update db |
| 02:40.46 | dpkg | ruby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB |
| 02:40.47 | Stevie | asg: I bet you never saw a linux box that you didn't need to login to :) |
| 02:40.54 | bsims | but his online banking isn't working with spidermonley |
| 02:40.56 | Stevie | federico: Wait, which order did you do them in? |
| 02:40.58 | bsims | er monkey |
| 02:41.10 | DUMAiSO | !info firefox sid |
| 02:41.13 | dpkg | firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 7860 kB, Installed size: 21868 kB |
| 02:41.30 | bsims | !info elinks |
| 02:41.32 | dpkg | elinks: (advanced text-mode WWW browser), section web, is optional. Version: 0.10.6-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1309 kB, Installed size: 3304 kB |
| 02:41.35 | asg | Stevie: :) |
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| 02:41.43 | federico | E: Couldn't find package zlib1g-dev |
| 02:41.53 | asg | federico: what debian version are you running? |
| 02:41.54 | Stevie | federico: apt-cache search zlib |
| 02:42.33 | bsims | hrm I see zlib1g-dev on sid maybe stable is using a different name |
| 02:42.39 | Stevie | asg: It took a lot of work to make it work correctly, *but* I worked out a way. I replaced one of the getty entries in the init script with a shell script that su's to a regular user and then runs startkde |
| 02:42.41 | asg | !info zlib1g-dev |
| 02:42.44 | sonic | Hello? Anybody have any experience with xen? |
| 02:42.47 | dpkg | zlib1g-dev: (compression library - development), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.3-9 (sid), Packaged size: 395 kB, Installed size: 576 kB |
| 02:42.53 | Stevie | there's a xen channel, sonic |
| 02:42.59 | asg | Stevie: ah, interesting |
| 02:43.07 | asg | bsims: ^^ |
| 02:43.08 | Stevie | asg: Works well, too. |
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| 02:43.13 | asg | Stevie: cool |
| 02:43.13 | sonic | Yep but nobodys responding |
| 02:43.26 | Stevie | Oh, and it's in a loop. If KDE exits, it restarts (in case someone accidentally ctrl alt backspaces) |
| 02:43.41 | bsims | hrm anyone point me to a canned script that will update everything execpt things that apt-listbugs screams about? |
| 02:43.48 | Stevie | sonic: Sorry, my only experience with xen was a global notice a few days ago about the existence of #xen :) |
| 02:43.57 | asg | Stevie: you can disable the CTRL+ALT+BKSP functionality in your X config if that's an issue. |
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| 02:44.12 | sonic | Ok, cheers anyway :-) |
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| 02:44.20 | Stevie | asg: Well, it also restarts if they try to log out or anything like that too |
| 02:44.35 | Stevie | although I didn't know you could disable C-A-BkSp |
| 02:44.38 | asg | sonic: the likely have mailing lists that you might also ask on |
| 02:44.47 | Stevie | woah |
| 02:44.58 | bsims | Stevie: It's Linux you can do damned near anything |
| 02:45.09 | Stevie | /usr/bin/gtk-query-immodules-2.0: relocation error: /usr/bin/gtk-query-immodules-2.0: undefined symbol: g_printf |
| 02:45.10 | asg | Stevie: Option "DontZap" "boolean" |
| 02:45.15 | bsims | Root, God what is Difference? God is more forgiving |
| 02:45.20 | Stevie | dpkg: error processing libgtk2.0-bin (--configure) |
| 02:45.28 | Stevie | so: DontZap true ? |
| 02:45.34 | sonic | thanks Stevie |
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| 02:45.58 | asg | Stevie: yep, man xorg.conf (or man XF86Config-4) |
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| 02:46.04 | Stevie | bsims: Of course. That's why I bothered trying :) It's just that 'anything' often requires more work than it's worth |
| 02:46.27 | bsims | Stevie: again yeah |
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| 02:46.47 | Stevie | this is not good |
| 02:47.06 | Stevie | is there any way to easily see if any package on my system is *not* from stable? |
| 02:47.09 | rredd4 | is there a deb package available for xine? |
| 02:47.20 | vars | rredd4 yeah |
| 02:47.36 | rredd4 | vars: please tell me where |
| 02:47.36 | bsims | Stevie: as a user I find the most useful tool is `links groups.google.com` |
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| 02:48.07 | Stevie | lol |
| 02:48.21 | Stevie | When I set this laptop up, I don't think google groups even existed yet |
| 02:48.43 | Stevie | you probably weren't here when I mentioned: When I set this thing up, I installed "testing" and got Woody. |
| 02:48.55 | shogunx | Stevie wasn't it dejanews at that point? |
| 02:49.05 | Stevie | might have been |
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| 02:49.18 | bsims | most likely |
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| 02:49.41 | Stevie | okay |
| 02:49.46 | Stevie | haha |
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| 02:50.00 | Stevie | I once gave someone my ICQ number (back when people still used ICQ) |
| 02:50.07 | Stevie | she didn't believe it was real because it was only 7 digits |
| 02:50.18 | bsims | TANFJ There Ain't no Frelling Justice |
| 02:50.32 | Stevie | okay |
| 02:50.35 | Stevie | uhm |
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| 02:50.37 | bsims | Heh I saw someone post on /. with a number of three digits |
| 02:50.38 | Stevie | i must be confused |
| 02:50.51 | Stevie | I know someone who had ICQ#2000 |
| 02:50.55 | bsims | Stevie: Niven Known Space reference |
| 02:51.05 | Stevie | He emailed mirabilis |
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| 02:51.12 | Stevie | asked them for #2000 if it was available |
| 02:51.19 | Stevie | this was back, well, in 2000 |
| 02:51.35 | Stevie | they replied "if nobody uses it for six months, sure" |
| 02:51.40 | gravity | bsims: There's a bunch of those people around. Occasionally you see a two digit too |
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| 02:51.45 | Stevie | six months later, he had #2,000 |
| 02:52.01 | bsims | damn never saw that low a number |
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| 02:52.17 | Stevie | anyway, my "okay, um" is referring to this unfinished statement |
| 02:52.31 | Stevie | I thought that 'dist-upgrade' was supposed to upgrade every package on your system. Clearly that is not the case |
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| 02:53.22 | bsims | Stevie: my yahoo user name is tanfj |
| 02:53.29 | Pegger | doees anyone know what the previous version of msntv was called? you know the box that is desigined for people who do not want a whole computer but just want to use the internet. |
| 02:53.35 | Stevie | webtv? |
| 02:54.26 | Stevie | I once read somewhere that the average WebTV user made the average AOL user seem like an MIT graduate by comparison |
| 02:54.41 | comsa | whois stevie |
| 02:54.44 | Pegger | Stevie, yes that is it |
| 02:54.47 | Stevie | i is stevie |
| 02:54.49 | gravity | Is WebTV still around? |
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| 02:55.18 | gravity | I haven't seen that since the late 90's |
| 02:55.29 | Pegger | Granis, not sure, I want wated to know because I plan on using one of their infrered keybords fo rmythtv |
| 02:55.39 | rredd4 | xine website says to "apt-get install xine-ui" That is unstable, i am using sarge. I was told not to mix unstable with stable. Where can I get a stable version? |
| 02:55.44 | comsa | sorry forgot the //// |
| 02:55.51 | bsims | heh remember adds for the Kool-aid Atari game? |
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| 02:56.30 | Stevie | the dependencies listed for libgtk2.0-bin in stable are incorrect |
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| 02:56.43 | Stevie | Because I'm trying to install the libgtk2.0-bin from stable, and it's not working |
| 02:56.57 | Stevie | relocation error: /usr/bin/gtk-query-immodules-2.0: undefined symbol: g_printf |
| 02:57.18 | vars | rredd4 sorry |
| 02:57.25 | bookie | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.25 | bookie | http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html. I have a small question . I want to recompile with a particular option enabled, say --enable-arp-acl . How do I pass this info to the command, " dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b " , which I use to recompile the source package. I would like to know if there is any standard method through which I can modify compile time options. |
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| 02:57.56 | jarjar26 | Hi all ! I have install squirrelmail-postfix-uw-imap with apt-get, i have configure squirrelmail to communicate with uw-imap .. when i try to login with squirrelmail, i receive theses errors : Error connecting to IMAP server: tls://localhost. |
| 02:58.10 | rredd4 | vars: is that correct, do not mix unstable with stable.. so i cannot download xine? |
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| 02:58.29 | Stevie | you'd have to build a backported version from source, rredd4 |
| 02:58.37 | Stevie | I used to know how to do that. |
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| 02:59.10 | rredd4 | Stevie: hmm. i am to new to even have a clue about that |
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| 02:59.40 | niklaus | how do i install this distro with only floppy images ? i don't have a CD or dvd drive but i have a fast internet connection and i have formatted the pc completely . |
| 02:59.50 | Stevie | apt-get source xine |
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| 03:00.01 | Stevie | you need a deb-src line for unstable in your sources.lst |
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| 03:00.24 | vars | hey onece i reconfigure x do i need to restart it for it to look right? |
| 03:00.25 | rredd4 | Stevie: ok, so its ok to mix unstable with stable? |
| 03:00.35 | chealer9 | rredd4: xine-ui is in stable. just install it |
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| 03:00.56 | vars | hey is there a good flash program for linux yet? |
| 03:01.05 | rredd4 | chealer9: ok, weird why the web site says unstable. |
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| 03:01.19 | rredd4 | must be wrong? |
| 03:01.21 | vars | technically it probably is |
| 03:01.27 | Stevie | rredd4: What you do is, you get a source package (from unstable), then compile against your system (running stable/testing), and the result is a version of that package for your system (stable/testing, whichever it is). |
| 03:01.31 | chealer9 | rredd4: could you point me to where is what you're talking about? |
| 03:01.42 | Stevie | Of course, chealer9 has indicated that you don't need to go through all that rigamarole |
| 03:02.18 | rredd4 | chealer9: http://xinehq.de/index.php/download#binaries |
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| 03:03.03 | ice_1963 | what is stabl/testing ? |
| 03:03.05 | chealer9 | rredd4: these instructions are right, simply incomplete. the instructions apply to stable as well as unstable |
| 03:03.10 | chealer9 | !stable |
| 03:03.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, stable is the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, and changes will only fix security issues. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is sarge 3.1r1, or ask me about releases. |
| 03:03.13 | chealer9 | !testing |
| 03:03.13 | dpkg | A release phase between frozen (stable) and unstable. Etch is now testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
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| 03:03.38 | ice_1963 | ok stable/testing |
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| 03:04.30 | Stevie | is there an easy way to determine which packages on my system do NOT match the versions in stable? |
| 03:04.59 | Stevie | i.e. a list of packages that, if I did 'apt-get -t stable install foo', something significant would occur |
| 03:05.20 | rich0rd | hello everyone - i have debian unstable installed - and i am trying to compile a program which depends on libboost_filesystem |
| 03:05.37 | rich0rd | now i have a problem with following warning: |
| 03:05.40 | rich0rd | warning: libstdc++.so.6, needed by /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux-gnu/3.3.6/../../../libboost_filesystem.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.5 |
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| 03:05.51 | dvs | ice_1963: Were you the one that was fooling around with the modprobe.conf file? |
| 03:06.03 | rredd4 | Stevie: the word compile is not for me just yet. have had debian 3.1 for less than a month |
| 03:06.11 | Stevie | lol, ok |
| 03:06.31 | rich0rd | can i get a version of libboost compiled with gcc3.3 or will i have to compile it myself |
| 03:06.31 | ice_1963 | not me |
| 03:06.38 | dvs | ok |
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| 03:06.54 | rredd4 | Stevie: thats why i need to know which xine is ok for me to install |
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| 03:07.51 | ice_1963 | dvs: why? |
| 03:07.53 | DUMAiSO | !info liruby1.8 sarge |
| 03:08.21 | dvs | ice_1963: That person's solution would not stand a reboot and I wanted to tell him/her |
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| 03:08.47 | ice_1963 | lol ok :0) |
| 03:08.56 | DUMAiSO | !info libruby1.8 sarge |
| 03:09.00 | dpkg | libruby1.8: (Libraries necessary to run Ruby 1.8), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-7sarge2 (sarge), Packaged size: 1317 kB, Installed size: 5360 kB |
| 03:09.10 | DUMAiSO | !info libruby1.8 |
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| 03:09.15 | dpkg | libruby1.8: (Libraries necessary to run Ruby 1.8), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.8.4-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1394 kB, Installed size: 5552 kB |
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| 03:15.43 | devnull_ | hello, i was just wondering i am on a debian mirror site trying to download an iso ... why is there 14 different iso's with the same name, but with a different number attached to them ? |
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| 03:17.29 | devnull_ | i assume iso1 should be the core os and most used software ? |
| 03:17.36 | dvs | devnull_: yup |
| 03:17.41 | rich0rd | because there are 14 cds full of software |
| 03:18.00 | devnull_ | gotcha |
| 03:18.01 | devnull_ | sweet |
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| 03:18.12 | devnull_ | hmmm ... i figured kernel.org would be a fast mirror site |
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| 03:19.06 | wahyu | hi all |
| 03:19.10 | devnull_ | i hope i am right |
| 03:19.53 | wahyu | pls help me, i wanto connect my linux to novell netware server .. pls guide me.. |
| 03:19.59 | devnull_ | 200KB/sec ... that should be fast enough |
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| 03:20.16 | deadcat | wahyu: you're out of luck. no one uses novell netware |
| 03:21.06 | deo_ | question: how do i figure out which sata driver to use? lspci wont help me |
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| 03:21.37 | Younix | Like omg. |
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| 03:21.47 | Younix | <-- Newb. Should I only download disc one of Debian? |
| 03:22.09 | _pp[hamas] | ja |
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| 03:22.19 | wahyu | deadcat, i know, but novell is the old system that i had use...but i so confuse to join it.. |
| 03:22.25 | dvs | Younix: Do you have a fast internet connection? |
| 03:22.29 | Younix | Yea. |
| 03:22.35 | Younix | DSL. |
| 03:22.36 | deadcat | wahyu: ya.. |
| 03:22.37 | chealer9 | Younix: you have a nice nick |
| 03:22.37 | Younix | The site is slow though. |
| 03:22.38 | dvs | Younix: Use the netinstall CD |
| 03:22.41 | Younix | chealer9, thanks. |
| 03:22.46 | rredd4 | vars: when I apt get xine-ui, it says stable! |
| 03:22.50 | Younix | dvs, which one is that? |
| 03:23.01 | dvs | !netinstall |
| 03:23.02 | dpkg | rumour has it, netinst is a small cd or set of floppy images which install the base Debian system. For sarge, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ For boot floppies see http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ For etch see http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/etch_d-i/i386/beta1/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso for x86, or see dialup install. Also see d-i. |
| 03:23.09 | chealer9 | Younix: is "Like omg." a new form of greeting in France? |
| 03:23.15 | Younix | Haha. |
| 03:23.16 | Younix | No.. |
| 03:23.22 | Younix | I live in the U.S.A. :o |
| 03:23.32 | chealer9 | Younix: really? |
| 03:23.36 | dvs | ^_^ |
| 03:23.38 | Younix | Yessuh. |
| 03:23.55 | rredd4 | chealer9: xine-ui is stable |
| 03:23.59 | Younix | dvs, wtf? Sarge? |
| 03:24.00 | Younix | What should I use? |
| 03:24.06 | dvs | Younix: sarge for sure |
| 03:24.08 | chealer9 | Younix: you confused me |
| 03:24.11 | Younix | Okay. |
| 03:24.15 | chealer9 | rredd4: yeah |
| 03:24.19 | Younix | What is sarge excactly? |
| 03:24.24 | chealer9 | !sarge |
| 03:24.24 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>. Sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released at one time... read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 03:24.25 | dvs | !sarge |
| 03:24.30 | dvs | doh |
| 03:24.33 | Younix | !sarge |
| 03:24.33 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>. Sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released at one time... read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
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| 03:24.38 | chealer9 | !lose dvs |
| 03:24.38 | dpkg | dvs: You Lose. |
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| 03:24.40 | Younix | Ooops. |
| 03:24.47 | _pp[hamas] | !sarge |
| 03:24.47 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>. Sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released at one time... read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 03:24.49 | Younix | Oh. |
| 03:24.53 | Younix | Okay. |
| 03:25.00 | _pp[hamas] | !lose _pp[hamas] |
| 03:25.00 | dpkg | _pp[hamas]: You Lose. |
| 03:25.01 | Younix | The base system comes with Gnome? |
| 03:25.05 | Younix | !win Younix |
| 03:25.05 | dpkg | Congratulations, Younix! You have won a one way ticket to Baghdad! |
| 03:25.15 | Younix | Anyway. |
| 03:25.17 | dvs | Younix: You can choose during the install |
| 03:25.23 | Younix | I guess I'll get right on that. |
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| 03:25.35 | Younix | I'll start the download on the 'Doze box. :x |
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| 03:26.32 | Younix | Son of a cow. |
| 03:26.36 | Younix | Mother is on the Doze box. |
| 03:26.39 | rredd4 | chealer9: do I need any other packages for xine? codecs? |
| 03:26.45 | Younix | !debian |
| 03:26.45 | dpkg | well, debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
| 03:26.48 | Younix | !stfu |
| 03:26.48 | dpkg | hmm... stfu is Shut The Fuck Up, or see also http://people.debian.org/~branden/humor/the_real_official_motto.jpeg |
| 03:26.49 | dvs | Younix: What box are you on? |
| 03:26.55 | Younix | Ubuntu box. |
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| 03:26.58 | deadcat | Younix: can you not whine like a little bitch here? |
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| 03:27.06 | Younix | I'm not whining you fucking idiot. |
| 03:27.10 | Younix | Suck my asshole. |
| 03:27.11 | chealer9 | rredd4: depending on what you want to do |
| 03:27.13 | dvs | o_O |
| 03:27.24 | deadcat | Younix: yes you are. |
| 03:27.28 | Younix | How's that? |
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| 03:27.48 | Younix | Eat my asshole you fuck face. |
| 03:27.52 | Younix | Now die. |
| 03:27.55 | Younix | Anywho.. |
| 03:28.04 | Younix | I assume Debian uses GRUB. |
| 03:28.06 | rredd4 | chealer9: want to be able to see movies that are playing at theatres, wmv, real player |
| 03:28.06 | Younix | !grub |
| 03:28.06 | dpkg | well, grub is [grub] Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader that can boot a lot of OSes, understands a lot of filesystems including reiserfs.. Go here for an excellent step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622, or a distributed internet crawler. |
| 03:28.09 | deadcat | Younix: wow.. i dont see how i can top that. |
| 03:28.16 | majelix | !utmp |
| 03:28.17 | Younix | deadcat, welcome to ignore. |
| 03:28.17 | dpkg | somebody said utmp was it records information on who is currently logged in. see btmp, or see "man utmp" |
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| 03:28.33 | Younix | !ntfs |
| 03:28.33 | dpkg | i guess ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 03:28.36 | Younix | !nts |
| 03:28.39 | Younix | Sorry... |
| 03:28.42 | deadcat | Younix: i dont want to taint my irssi config file with your nick |
| 03:28.46 | Younix | I must experiment with the bot. |
| 03:28.46 | dvs | Younix: /msg dpkg |
| 03:28.50 | Younix | Sure thing. |
| 03:28.56 | Younix | Anyway. |
| 03:29.00 | Younix | Ubuntu is debian based, no? |
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| 03:29.02 | Stevie | deadcat: haha |
| 03:29.23 | deadcat | Stevie: its true... because if i add his nick i will have to cvs commmit (= |
| 03:29.35 | Stevie | egads |
| 03:29.36 | Younix | Well my bad. |
| 03:29.46 | Stevie | deadcat: not svn? |
| 03:29.50 | chealer9 | rredd4: real player and WMV are both proprietary formats, so you generally need w32codecs, but WMV1 and WMV2 were reverse-engineered |
| 03:29.51 | rredd4 | Younix: why not have the real debian? |
| 03:29.52 | Stevie | svn > cvs |
| 03:30.01 | Younix | rredd4, I shall as soon as my mother finishes on the other box. |
| 03:30.12 | deadcat | Stevie: nah... cvs does what i need right now. |
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| 03:30.24 | Stevie | but svn is so much cooler |
| 03:30.28 | deadcat | Younix: there you go again. whining like a little bitch |
| 03:30.30 | Stevie | svn uber alles |
| 03:30.34 | Younix | How am I whining? |
| 03:30.35 | deadcat | Stevie: thats what i heard too. |
| 03:30.39 | astronut | svn has several points that CVS lacks |
| 03:30.49 | aFlag | whining is fun |
| 03:30.51 | astronut | atomic commits, support for moving around/copying/etc files |
| 03:30.55 | aFlag | better than actually doing stuff |
| 03:30.58 | Younix | Apparently you need to read up on the definition of whining. |
| 03:31.20 | deadcat | astronut: i have my cvsroot on a remote server. |
| 03:31.22 | majelix | Recently etch seems to have stopped writing /var/run/utmp. Other than chmod/chattr, what would be causing this? |
| 03:31.23 | Agrajag- | does anyone know if there's some workaround to tell rsync to only look at files newer than a certain date? |
| 03:31.28 | Stevie | any idiot can make their own svn repos, even under Windows -- and I have several repositories to prove it |
| 03:31.37 | Agrajag- | because after some time i want to burn all the backup files onto a dvd, and delete the backed up files. i obviously don't want to download all those i've just burned/deleted next time rsync runs |
| 03:31.42 | astronut | deadcat: your point? svn supports remote...i haven't used it locally |
| 03:32.10 | deadcat | astronut: i dont remember why i went back to cvs actually. i tried svn few months back. |
| 03:32.17 | dondelelcaro | it's fairly similar; you either cvs init, or you svnadmin create |
| 03:32.19 | Younix | comsa, stop. |
| 03:32.36 | Younix | Okay.. |
| 03:32.42 | floydwilde | can you just apt-get install svn ?? |
| 03:32.45 | Agrajag- | or does anyone know of any other backup utility that does do what i just asked? |
| 03:32.49 | deadcat | floydwilde: yes |
| 03:32.51 | Younix | I want to make sure this is correct. Is this the right download I should use: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r1a-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 03:33.07 | chealer9 | Younix: looks good |
| 03:33.12 | Younix | Mkay. |
| 03:33.12 | floydwilde | is there a web interface you can likewise apt-get ? |
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| 03:33.26 | Younix | Web Interface? |
| 03:33.31 | deadcat | floydwilde: no |
| 03:33.31 | floydwilde | for svn |
| 03:33.58 | majelix | there's packages.debian.org, but it's been down for awhile |
| 03:34.12 | dondelelcaro | pdo.debian.net |
| 03:34.20 | floydwilde | I was browsing packages.debian today |
| 03:34.35 | Younix | vghcfh |
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| 03:35.08 | Stevie | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 03:35.13 | Stevie | ... WHY? |
| 03:35.29 | dondelelcaro | Stevie: if you want to know, use aptitude, and see what happens when you try to install them. |
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| 03:35.55 | Stevie | ty |
| 03:36.16 | xored | i have a raid for data save running and jsut removed stupidly with rm -fr a dir, which i wnat to restore. What can i do |
| 03:36.44 | |valinux|xbm-x| | any one know any chat room for serial cracking? help center? |
| 03:36.45 | Stevie | abiword-common could be upgraded to version 2.4.1-2.1, but it is being held at version 1.0.2+cvs.2002.06.05-1. |
| 03:36.51 | Stevie | pourquoi |
| 03:36.51 | |valinux|xbm-x| | jk |
| 03:37.03 | Stevie | we only do parallel cracking in here, valinux |
| 03:37.10 | dondelelcaro | xored: raids save you from hardware failure, but not human error. |
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| 03:37.30 | dondelelcaro | xored: First, remount the partition read only. Then use e2undel or similar to recover your data. |
| 03:37.33 | xored | dondelelcaro: thanks for yu great tip |
| 03:37.49 | xored | dondelelcaro: is it for ext2 only ? |
| 03:37.51 | Stevie | okay, it says it's "being held" |
| 03:38.14 | dondelelcaro | Stevie: likely because you've placed it on hold; run aptitude, and mark it for an upgrade. |
| 03:38.21 | dondelelcaro | xored: which filesystem are you using? |
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| 03:38.35 | Stevie | i'm a little fuzzy, but I thought held files were marked with an h |
| 03:38.35 | dondelelcaro | xored: but before that, mount the filesystem read only. |
| 03:38.40 | dondelelcaro | Stevie: yes, they are. |
| 03:38.46 | xored | dondelelcaro: its ext2 |
| 03:38.47 | xored | ok |
| 03:38.57 | dondelelcaro | xored: well, if it's ext2, then use ue2undel |
| 03:39.00 | xored | dondelelcaro: first i got to release the raid, or not |
| 03:39.02 | dondelelcaro | s/ue// |
| 03:39.10 | xored | doneli can just mount the raid r only |
| 03:39.15 | dondelelcaro | xored: you don't have to do anything to the raid. The raid is irrelevant. |
| 03:39.21 | xored | yes ok |
| 03:40.09 | xored | he says me drive busy, but it should not be |
| 03:40.29 | majelix | Why shouldn't it be? |
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| 03:40.42 | xored | ah its NFS |
| 03:40.43 | dondelelcaro | xored: you should be able to mount -o remount,ro /path/to/drive; if any files are in use, kill off whatever is using them. |
| 03:41.01 | NGo | can anybody help me with vlc. I can't set up skins for it. When I try to run vlc -I skins2, it gives me this error: ibhal.c 767 : org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceDoesNotExist raised "Service "org.freedesktop.Hal" does not exist" [00000249] skins2 interface error: Cannot open display [00000249] skins2 interface error: Cannot initialize OSFactory |
| 03:41.23 | xored | ok dondelelcaro , unmounted it |
| 03:41.45 | dondelelcaro | xored: not unmount. mount it read only. |
| 03:42.17 | xored | done |
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| 03:42.28 | Stevie | aha |
| 03:42.30 | Stevie | how do i unhold a package |
| 03:42.44 | xored | there were nothing written on the disk between the delte, so the data should be restored, or ? |
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| 03:43.02 | NGo | can anybody help me? |
| 03:43.11 | zebalin7 | !ems |
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| 03:43.21 | zebalin7 | !esm |
| 03:43.21 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, quick etch/sid mix is echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf, open sources.list, duplicate your etch lines and change one set to sid. then apt-get update, apt-get -t unstable install foo to install foo from sid rather than etch, or this will probably break if packages from unstable are compiled with gcc 4 and packages in etch aren't. |
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| 03:43.39 | zebalin7 | (sorry, should have /msg dpkg first) |
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| 03:44.42 | |valinux|xbm-x| | do you guys know any linux that is easy to make a web server on it? |
| 03:45.13 | gravity | wtf |
| 03:45.20 | |valinux|xbm-x| | i know about suse but is there like any one better then suse? |
| 03:45.31 | Stevie | erm |
| 03:45.31 | NGo | can anybody help me with vlc. I can't set up skins for it. When I try to run vlc -I skins2, it gives me this error: ibhal.c 767 : org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceDoesNotExist raised "Service "org.freedesktop.Hal" does not exist" [00000249] skins2 interface error: Cannot open display [00000249] skins2 interface error: Cannot initialize OSFactory |
| 03:45.31 | gravity | |valinux|xbm-x|: Care to stop trolling? |
| 03:45.36 | Stevie | !base-config |
| 03:45.36 | dpkg | base-config is probably or can be something to run to configure your base install, or being phased out, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2005/12/msg00259.html for status |
| 03:45.42 | Stevie | ahhh, ok |
| 03:45.56 | gravity | Stevie: /msg dpkg for such factoids please |
| 03:46.07 | Stevie | okay |
| 03:46.09 | majelix | Why would programs be unable to write to utmp? Permissions look proper, and wtmp is still being updated. |
| 03:46.10 | gravity | Thanks |
| 03:46.13 | Stevie | I saw other people doing the ! syntax |
| 03:46.25 | Stevie | majelix: lsattr /var/log/utmp |
| 03:46.28 | xored | dondelelcaro: he asks me for a log file, i tried : e2undel /dev/md0 /mnt/storage/databkp |
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| 03:46.36 | majelix | stevie: yeah, it's empty :/ |
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| 03:46.42 | Stevie | all -s? |
| 03:46.51 | gravity | Stevie: That's useful for when you want to say it in the channel. For something like your base-config one though, it's better to just /msg dpkg and keep the channel more free of clutter :-) |
| 03:47.02 | majelix | stevie: yep |
| 03:47.35 | Stevie | I didn't know what it was :) but it looked important and so when apt said it was gonna be removed... |
| 03:47.44 | Stevie | well, I now know better |
| 03:47.49 | gravity | Yeah |
| 03:48.24 | Stevie | this upgrade's taking forever :( |
| 03:49.47 | NGo | i there anybody available for help who news about vlc? |
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| 03:49.56 | Stevie | I expect more from this raw source of x86 processing power, a Celeron 150 |
| 03:50.08 | majelix | majelix@bromden:~$ lsattr /var/run/utmp |
| 03:50.08 | majelix | ----------------- /var/run/utmp |
| 03:50.08 | _pp[hamas] | !lose dpkg |
| 03:50.08 | dpkg | dpkg: You Lose. |
| 03:50.14 | antiPoP | hello |
| 03:50.15 | Stevie | a sheer juggernaut |
| 03:50.17 | majelix | hrm. |
| 03:50.22 | Younix | !tell _pp[hamas] about stfu |
| 03:50.27 | antiPoP | what is the easyest way to aprtition a disk?? |
| 03:50.30 | antiPoP | with cfdisk?? |
| 03:50.37 | Stevie | with a little bit of luck |
| 03:50.42 | Stevie | I still have a bootable system |
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| 03:50.53 | Stevie | antiPoP: hex editor on /dev/hda |
| 03:51.00 | antiPoP | :/ |
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| 03:51.31 | Stevie | or magnetize a pin... and *very carefully*... |
| 03:51.51 | majelix | all utmp searches seem to lead back to bug #256468, which a) is somewhat old, and b) shouldn't affect ttys anyways |
| 03:52.00 | Stevie | you could also try praying to the almighty Partition God |
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| 03:53.43 | Stevie | goddamnit! |
| 03:53.51 | Stevie | I'ms till getting the undefined symbol: g_printf error |
| 03:54.58 | Zet | I always partition my hard drive with cat /dev/random > /dev/hda until the paritions are the way I want them |
| 03:55.12 | Zet | partitions |
| 03:55.26 | Stevie | does that work? |
| 03:55.37 | Zet | I would think eventually yes |
| 03:55.46 | Stevie | I thought you'd have to try: dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 |
| 03:55.59 | Stevie | not sure if '>' works on hda |
| 03:56.06 | Zet | sure it works |
| 03:56.12 | NGo | is there anybody available for help who news about vlc? |
| 03:56.20 | Stevie | evidently not |
| 03:56.25 | NGo | is there anybody available for help who knows about vlc? |
| 03:56.27 | NGo | sorry |
| 03:56.38 | Stevie | i'm getting an error |
| 03:56.47 | Stevie | and all of the fscking pages on google refer to an upgrade to unstable |
| 03:56.50 | Stevie | but i'm not upgrading to unstable |
| 03:56.51 | bleaked- | NGo. why don't you just ask your question |
| 03:56.54 | Stevie | i'm upgrading to STABLE |
| 03:57.01 | Stevie | STABLE SHOULD WORK DAMNIT |
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| 03:57.44 | NGo | I did it |
| 03:57.47 | Zet | stable is gay |
| 03:57.58 | Zet | because stables -> horses -> studs -> gay |
| 03:58.06 | Zet | I can't get think construct out of my head |
| 03:58.08 | NGo | but I always have to repeat my questions. my gosh.- |
| 03:58.17 | Zet | think? this |
| 03:58.19 | NGo | I can't set up skins for it. When I try to run vlc -I skins2, it gives me this error: ibhal.c 767 : org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceDoesNotExist raised "Service "org.freedesktop.Hal" does not exist" [00000249] skins2 interface error: Cannot open display [00000249] skins2 interface error: Cannot initialize OSFactory |
| 03:58.23 | dorileo | hey guys, where do I follow the Debian's grub development? I mean wich mailing list do I follow? |
| 03:58.34 | NGo | (vlc) |
| 03:58.34 | Stevie | Zet: I'm trying to upgrade a machine that has(well, had) Woody on it to Etch |
| 03:58.39 | Stevie | can't go directly, have to go through Sarge first |
| 03:58.58 | gravity | dorileo: I don't think there is a list... maybe debian-boot but that's for everything on the installer rather than grub |
| 03:58.58 | Zet | reinstall? |
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| 03:59.12 | gravity | dorileo: You can use the package tracking system to track grub's bugs and such I guess too |
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| 03:59.32 | dorileo | gravity: thanks |
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| 04:00.12 | benjamindees | firefox is losing logins (cookies?) all of a sudden on multiple websites; anybody else see this? |
| 04:00.38 | NGo | bleaked- do I have to repeat my question again? |
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| 04:01.27 | dorileo | gravity: I don't know the package tracking system |
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| 04:01.43 | zebalin7 | I have etch with kde 3.4. I want new kde 3.5 that recently hit the repository. Is there an easy way to get it all as opposed to using synaptic and marking each 'k' package for upgrade? Could I reinstall the kde meta? |
| 04:01.44 | gravity | danieldg: I've not really used it. qa.debian.org should get you there. |
| 04:01.49 | gravity | dorileo: ^ |
| 04:01.52 | dorileo | gravity: is it http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages.en-gb.html#search_packages |
| 04:01.54 | gravity | danieldg: Sorry, that was for dorileo |
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| 04:02.16 | yrw | hi,, i need HELP,,, I'M newby on linux.. i have 2g ram.. "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 04:02.16 | yrw | " |
| 04:02.31 | dorileo | gravity: ow... ok |
| 04:02.34 | Stevie | you need to edit (or create) your apt.conf |
| 04:02.48 | gravity | yrw: That's in the FAQ. See /topic |
| 04:02.48 | yrw | apt-get install openoffice.org-debian.menus_2.0.1-1_all.deb |
| 04:03.13 | NGo | is there anybody available for help who knows about vlc? |
| 04:03.27 | oigres | Hi guys, I've installed a kernel-img-2.6.15 and I've got many, many errors while booting. They are of the sort: udev_event: run_program: exec of program `/lib/udev/...' failed. Any ideas on how to fix this thing in udev? |
| 04:03.29 | yrw | apt-get install filenane.deb |
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| 04:03.55 | yrw | hi,, i need HELP,,, I'M newby on linux.. i have 2g ram.. "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 04:04.01 | Stevie | yr: First, is that a *local file*? |
| 04:04.05 | gravity | yrw: Did you check the FAQ? |
| 04:04.10 | gravity | yrw: I told you that it should be there |
| 04:04.12 | gravity | yrw: If you read it |
| 04:04.20 | Stevie | don't you use dpkg to install local files? |
| 04:04.22 | yrw | were it is the fa? |
| 04:04.26 | gravity | yrw: /topic |
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| 04:05.06 | yrw | i don't get it |
| 04:05.10 | yrw | ? |
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| 04:05.27 | Stevie | did you type /topic ? |
| 04:05.32 | twobitsprit1 | isn't there a graphical package management tool? |
| 04:05.33 | yrw | do i need to put the fine at home ? |
| 04:05.36 | gravity | wtf |
| 04:05.42 | NGo | is there anybody available for help who knows about vlc? |
| 04:05.45 | gravity | yrw: Do you know how to use IRC at all? |
| 04:05.50 | yrw | no |
| 04:05.51 | gravity | Or a web browser? |
| 04:05.51 | wireddd | two, synaptic I think |
| 04:05.54 | gravity | yrw: www.irc.org |
| 04:06.10 | Stevie | yrw: Type This: /msg dpkg faq |
| 04:06.11 | gravity | yrw: If you can't even read a channel topic, you're in trouble |
| 04:06.19 | xored | any better tools then e2undel for undeletting files ? |
| 04:06.34 | Stevie | hd |
| 04:06.47 | xored | hd ? |
| 04:06.56 | oigres | xored: if you use ext3, then forget about undeletting files. They simply go away! |
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| 04:07.13 | NGo | is there anybody available for help who knows about vlc? |
| 04:07.14 | yrw | what public key .... is not available... |
| 04:07.24 | oigres | Hi guys, I've installed a kernel-img-2.6.15 and I've got many, many errors while booting. They are of the sort: udev_event: run_program: exec of program `/lib/udev/...' failed. Any ideas on how to fix this thing in udev? |
| 04:07.30 | twobitsprit1 | wireddd: right on... thanks |
| 04:07.32 | gravity | yrw: If it's not affecting you, don't worry about it |
| 04:07.34 | imaek | On a mac machine, how do I change it so that it, by default, starts into yaboot? |
| 04:07.34 | xored | oigres: have ext2 |
| 04:07.42 | yrw | hooo ok |
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| 04:07.46 | twobitsprit1 | why is it when I "sudo" something it says cannot open display? |
| 04:08.04 | oigres | xored: then e2undel is what you should use. I guess is the only one but can't be 100% sure! |
| 04:08.12 | yrw | so why i can't used the this command |
| 04:08.19 | yrw | apt-get install filenane.deb |
| 04:08.20 | xfan | whats the command to view the shared folders on samba ? |
| 04:08.31 | Stevie | smbclient -L ? |
| 04:08.31 | nite613_ | yrw: dpkg -i filename.deb |
| 04:08.31 | yrw | i have 2g ram.. "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 04:08.41 | yrw | hooooo. |
| 04:08.50 | oigres | twobitsprit1: Because you're running an X program and your DISPLAY environment variable is not defined as it should! |
| 04:08.58 | yrw | one sec... |
| 04:09.11 | NGo | another question. I've installed kernel-2.6.8 and when I enter debian with 686.. it has some errors.. for instances, it doesn't detect my cdrom drives |
| 04:09.14 | twobitsprit1 | bigr: but "su -c" works... what should I set my DISPLAY to? |
| 04:09.44 | xored | oigres: its a bit "undhandy" because it is not able to restore filenames |
| 04:10.00 | gravity | yrw: Why didn't you read the stupid FAQ pointed to in the topic? |
| 04:10.27 | oigres | xored, you have to ask somebody else then. I have no idea what is the best way to restore. ext2 is long gone now. Sorry... |
| 04:10.47 | NGo | come on. can anybody help me? |
| 04:10.48 | xored | thank you |
| 04:11.27 | yrw | coool it work.. i install openoffice.. thank you nite613 |
| 04:11.36 | imaek | I am working on a PowerPC machine, and the mac disk utilities have changed the startup partition back to the Mac OS X partition, when I want it to prompt me every time to start up (using Yaboot). How can I change this? |
| 04:11.47 | oigres | twobitsprit1: are you talking about sudo or su! I'm confussed now |
| 04:13.49 | oigres | twobitsprit1: I guess I've got your poing! Gosh, it's too late now! |
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| 04:13.52 | twobitsprit1 | oigres: "su -c" works, but sudo doesn't for x programs |
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| 04:13.53 | oigres | twobitsprit1: I guess you should read about the DISPLAY environment variable somewhere before trying to use sudo for an X aplications. This is usually a bad thing to do anyway... |
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| 04:14.20 | twobitsprit1 | diogenes: how should I run synaptic then? |
| 04:14.34 | twobitsprit1 | er, oigres... |
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| 04:15.16 | Mahdi | hi, culd anybody help me setting my ftp server plz? I'm sure about my proftpd.conf. It was running fine before. Now i had to reinstall debian and changed from cable to adsl and it keep getting connection refused. =/ what could b wrong? |
| 04:16.02 | markybob | Mahdi, is it running? does your isp block port 21? tried passive/non-passive modes on your ftp client? |
| 04:16.04 | yrw | hey i get more quetion .. it look like i install the openoffice but were it is the program i don't see it... |
| 04:16.42 | yrw | Updating MIME database in /usr/share/mime |
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| 04:16.46 | Stevie | why are all these packages from an untrusted source? |
| 04:17.03 | Mahdi | markybob, yep. Tried all that. Set my server to run on por 9666 just to make sure... tried both passive and non-passive... |
| 04:17.05 | yrw | Setting up openoffice.org-debian-menus (2.0.1-1) |
| 04:17.11 | Mahdi | oh |
| 04:17.17 | yrw | Updating MIME database in /usr/share/mime.. |
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| 04:17.33 | yrw | Unpacking replacement openoffice.org-debian-menus |
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| 04:17.49 | markybob | Mahdi, making it run as standalone or using identd? |
| 04:18.03 | yrw | i don't see it at the desktop???? |
| 04:18.23 | Mahdi | markybob, just got it fixed =/ weird router... does not let me connect via wan address to my server (trying to connect to myselft via wan address), but lets an external ip to connect (tried a ssh on a ssh connection)! |
| 04:18.30 | Mahdi | markybob, lol |
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| 04:19.00 | yrw | dpkg -i install openoffice.org-debian-menus_2.0.1-1_all.deb ---> work |
| 04:20.20 | yrw | i'm realy lost |
| 04:20.25 | Stevie | Mahdi: Most routers behave like that, actually |
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| 04:20.57 | Mahdi | Stevie, hmm... that's new to me... both my 2 other routers don't! |
| 04:21.10 | Stevie | which routers? |
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| 04:21.21 | yrw | need help installing openoffice |
| 04:21.31 | Mahdi | Stevie, dlink di-604 |
| 04:21.32 | Stevie | the popular cisco PIX firewall/router does not |
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| 04:22.12 | Pegger | hey I was wondering if anyone has a opinion which is better DVD+R or DVD-R??? |
| 04:22.15 | twobitsprit1 | yrw: did you try typing "apt-get install openoffice.org"? |
| 04:22.17 | yrw | help installing openoffice?????????? |
| 04:22.36 | yrw | apt-get get me a err |
| 04:22.49 | twobitsprit1 | apt-get gives you an error? |
| 04:22.50 | yrw | i have 2g ram.. "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 04:22.52 | Stevie | really? apt-get's error message is "help installing openoffice???????" ? |
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| 04:23.04 | yrw | yep |
| 04:23.11 | sjr | !tell yrw about mmap |
| 04:23.12 | Stevie | yrw: You were already told Where To Go To Find Out How To Fix That |
| 04:23.12 | twobitsprit1 | what error? |
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| 04:24.29 | yrw | dpkg -i openoffice.org-debian-menus_2.0.1-1_all.deb and i think it work.. |
| 04:24.45 | yrw | but i don't see it , on the desktop |
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| 04:24.57 | sanmarcos | how would I format a disk and make a XFS filesystem? |
| 04:24.58 | yrw | dp kg -i openoffice.org-debian-menus_2.0.1-1_all.deb and i think it work.. |
| 04:25.11 | twobitsprit1 | yrw: try typing "oowriter" |
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| 04:25.57 | twobitsprit1 | sanmarcos: I'm not familiar with XFS... |
| 04:26.15 | twobitsprit1 | sanmarcos have you tried "mkxfs" or something? |
| 04:26.16 | streuner_ | man mkfs.xfs? |
| 04:26.26 | Mahdi | Stevie, tkz for the information by the way =D that's something i would find out just searching google =D |
| 04:26.29 | yrw | thank you ... it is working..... |
| 04:26.39 | imaek | I am working on a PowerPC machine, and the mac disk utilities have changed the startup partition back to the Mac OS X partition, when I want it to prompt me every time to start up (using Yaboot). How can I change this? |
| 04:26.42 | twobitsprit1 | yrw: no problem... next time don't scream as much |
| 04:26.44 | yrw | the oowriter work... |
| 04:26.53 | sanmarcos | streuner_: but in fdisk tehre is no list for XFS |
| 04:26.56 | sjr | yrw: hooray! |
| 04:27.10 | kspath | dpkg -i sledge.deb |
| 04:27.20 | Stevie | ow |
| 04:27.24 | yrw | i need to get the laptop for HW... |
| 04:27.26 | streuner_ | /dev/hda3 1686 4867 25559415 83 Linux |
| 04:27.29 | kspath | that was HARSH |
| 04:27.34 | yrw | thank you... .coool is working |
| 04:27.43 | twobitsprit1 | no problem |
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| 04:27.58 | Joe7slp | hi |
| 04:28.07 | twobitsprit1 | although.. apt-get worked fine for me... |
| 04:28.08 | Stevie | at long last |
| 04:28.19 | sanmarcos | streuner_: so I should choose linux? I though that was EXT2/3 |
| 04:28.24 | yrw | i have another question.. do i need to install the newversion of mozilla firefox to install shockwave? |
| 04:28.25 | Stevie | wait |
| 04:28.26 | Stevie | wtf |
| 04:28.33 | Stevie | The following packages have been kept back: gdk-imlib1 |
| 04:28.40 | Stevie | why i say |
| 04:28.41 | Stevie | why |
| 04:28.55 | kspath | They did not keep up with thier homework. |
| 04:29.05 | kspath | So they had to be kept back. |
| 04:29.15 | lakcaj | Stevie, try dist-upgrade |
| 04:29.29 | Stevie | That was on my list from typing dist-upgrade. |
| 04:29.37 | lakcaj | I see |
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| 04:30.03 | Joe7 | could you please tell me what to use to restore files on my hdd? i got some error, so it got readonly remounted, and after a restart a lots of file simply 0byte in size+input/output error when i try to read them..anything could help?:o |
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| 04:30.55 | Stevie | why are all of my packages suddenly from untrusted sources |
| 04:31.07 | sjr | !2006 key |
| 04:31.07 | dpkg | from memory, 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. You can also install the key as follow, explicitly trusting this message with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
| 04:31.17 | Stevie | ah |
| 04:31.23 | Stevie | so... once I upgrade to apt testing |
| 04:31.27 | Stevie | all will again be well? |
| 04:31.35 | sjr | yea or you can install it manually like dpkg said |
| 04:31.37 | zinx | Stevie: why would it be? |
| 04:31.40 | AceSmythe | http://www.AceSmythe.com/temp/list.html - anyone have any laptop shopping suggestions? |
| 04:31.49 | zinx | Stevie: you need the 2006 key |
| 04:32.02 | Stevie | right now i have apt from stable |
| 04:32.05 | Stevie | i am upgrading to testing |
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| 04:32.35 | Stevie | according to what dpkg said, once I upgrade to testing, my apt will again trust debian |
| 04:33.14 | dorileo | apt-get install grub .... didn't install anything in /boot/grub |
| 04:33.26 | sjr | dorileo: did you answer 'y' to the question? |
| 04:33.33 | gravity | Stevie: If you have the option of -xorg, you should choose that |
| 04:33.33 | sanmarcos | how can I make root and another user have access to my X ? I get server refused connection |
| 04:33.42 | dorileo | sjr: yeah |
| 04:33.44 | Stevie | okay |
| 04:33.47 | Stevie | what is the difference? |
| 04:34.02 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: take a look at the sux package |
| 04:34.04 | sjr | dorileo: try update-grub |
| 04:34.15 | sanmarcos | \amethyst: eh? |
| 04:34.18 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: it does an su while forwarding X authentication |
| 04:34.21 | Stevie | sux package? would that install Windows? *rimshot* |
| 04:34.28 | sanmarcos | \amethyst: Im in my machine |
| 04:34.39 | sjr | Stevie: it would install your jokes package! owww bam! |
| 04:35.05 | Stevie | sjr: But Windows is somebody else's joke. |
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| 04:35.27 | sjr | Stevie: and even funnier, cause so many people use it.. wait, that's kinda sad :( |
| 04:35.34 | Stevie | hehe |
| 04:35.51 | Stevie | Package sux is now installed. Your machine now sux. |
| 04:35.53 | Stevie | C:\> |
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| 04:36.51 | Stevie | so anyway, what's xorg? |
| 04:37.06 | sjr | Stevie: it's a fork of the XFree86 project |
| 04:37.17 | Stevie | is it possible for us mere mortals to teach dpkg something? |
| 04:37.22 | veamos | I'm running kernel-2.6.8-2 and it doesn't detect my cdrom devices |
| 04:37.37 | sjr | !blah |
| 04:37.37 | dpkg | bleh means insert appropriate value here. see bleh, or meh |
| 04:37.38 | sanmarcos | how can I make root and another user have access to my X ? I get server refused connection |
| 04:38.04 | Stevie | that reads from dpkg, i'm talking about writing |
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| 04:38.34 | Arafangion | How do I do an audit - check files against debian's md5 sums? |
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| 04:39.00 | zinx | Arafangion: reinstall |
| 04:39.12 | Arafangion | zinx, At this stage I'm investigating. |
| 04:39.28 | zinx | Arafangion: yes, debsums via a bootable CD |
| 04:39.29 | Stevie | !xserver-xorg |
| 04:39.29 | dpkg | somebody said xserver-xorg was On the subject of xserver-xfree86 vs xserver-xorg, gravity says: If you have the option of -xorg, you should choose that |
| 04:39.37 | Arafangion | zinx, Thanks. |
| 04:39.38 | Stevie | yay |
| 04:39.42 | zinx | Arafangion: with a known-good package database |
| 04:40.02 | sanmarcos | stfu |
| 04:40.09 | zinx | Stevie: message for you, sir! |
| 04:40.19 | Stevie | haha |
| 04:40.26 | Stevie | You shall not have died in vain! |
| 04:40.31 | Stevie | "Err... I'm not dead yet" |
| 04:40.40 | Stevie | You shall not have been mortally wounded in vain! |
| 04:40.45 | Stevie | "ERr.. actually, I think I might pull through" |
| 04:41.11 | Stevie | Unpacking replacement dpkg... |
| 04:41.22 | Stevie | Hopefully I don't suffer a catastrophic system failure while doing this |
| 04:41.41 | Arafangion | By default, what package database does debsums use? |
| 04:41.42 | Stevie | It would not be good for my mental well-being, which is already shot to hell |
| 04:41.56 | Stevie | I have no idea. |
| 04:42.05 | Stevie | I didn't even know there was a debsums |
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| 04:42.32 | sanmarcos | how can I make root and another user have access to my X ? I get server refused connection. anybody?ç |
| 04:42.34 | Arafangion | debsums work well. |
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| 04:42.47 | sjr | sanmarcos: apt-get install sux |
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| 04:43.00 | sanmarcos | sjr: why do I need such thing, I didnt need it before |
| 04:43.04 | Stevie | apt-get install rulez! |
| 04:43.10 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: grab a copy of the user's .Xauthority file |
| 04:43.12 | Stevie | r00lz j0 |
| 04:43.22 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: sux automates the process |
| 04:43.38 | sanmarcos | \amethyst: why= I did NOT Need that before.. |
| 04:43.50 | sanmarcos | \amethyst: there is another way |
| 04:43.52 | sjr | sanmarcos: cry me a river |
| 04:43.55 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: so it just started giving the error message? |
| 04:43.55 | sjr | sanmarcos: xhost + ? |
| 04:43.59 | \amethyst | sanmarcos: what did you change? |
| 04:44.04 | sanmarcos | xhost is evil |
| 04:44.37 | nomade | . |
| 04:45.00 | sjr | sanmarcos: sux is what you want then, I'm afraid |
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| 04:51.11 | antiPoP | how can I manually install a .deb file??? |
| 04:51.19 | gravity | antiPoP: dpkg -i |
| 04:51.20 | Stevie | using: dpkg -i file.deb |
| 04:51.21 | sjr | antiPoP: dpkg -i <deb> |
| 04:51.25 | antiPoP | thanks |
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| 04:51.57 | Stevie | Unpacking replacement libssl0.9.7 ... |
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| 04:53.47 | soup_ | any small gtk web browsers? |
| 04:53.58 | Stevie | firefox is reasonably lightweight |
| 04:53.59 | sjr | soup_: firefox! |
| 04:54.06 | \amethyst | Stevie: you're kidding, right? |
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| 04:54.22 | Stevie | Well, it's all relative. |
| 04:54.23 | soup_ | I thought that was mozilla like |
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| 04:54.29 | Stevie | Compared to, oh, Mozilla |
| 04:54.35 | Stevie | Firefox IS lightweight. |
| 04:54.57 | Stevie | If you want REAL small, start a gtk xterm and run lynx |
| 04:55.02 | \amethyst | Stevie: I don't notice a big change in resource uses |
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| 04:55.04 | \amethyst | soup_: dillo |
| 04:55.10 | \amethyst | soup_: it's gtk 1, though |
| 04:55.16 | Arafangion | soup_, I used to run dillo, but it's far, far, far too minimal. Doesn't even have frames. |
| 04:55.25 | Stevie | bah |
| 04:55.28 | Stevie | who needs html 2.0 |
| 04:55.30 | \amethyst | soup_: it's not that great, but renders better than lynx :) |
| 04:55.41 | soup_ | I'll try it |
| 04:55.54 | sjr | !start a browser war |
| 04:55.54 | dpkg | Opera < Mozilla! |
| 04:56.01 | Stevie | Opera <=> Mozilla |
| 04:56.21 | \amethyst | Opera is much better on the `small' front than firefox in my experience |
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| 04:56.28 | soup_ | oh thats right there opera, but thats not gtk1/2 |
| 04:56.28 | \amethyst | but much worse on the `free' front :) |
| 04:56.32 | sjr | Firefox is much better on the `free' front |
| 04:56.33 | sjr | hehe ;) |
| 04:56.36 | Stevie | Opera > (Mozilla + Firefox) / Safari ^ Konq |
| 04:57.03 | Stevie | figure that one out |
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| 04:57.35 | Stevie | integral(lynx .. links) { Opera dx } >= (Mozilla + Firefox) / Safari ^ Konq |
| 04:58.32 | Stevie | apt-spy? |
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| 04:59.07 | Despy | tried to do a apt-get dist-upgrade, and somehow managed to kill my box... can't reboot, "kernel panic: attempted to kill init!" can boot from a netinst cd though... anyone feel up to a challenge? :) would like to have my box back (data too please!) :) |
| 04:59.13 | SimonRaven | FF is such a hog ... just opened it's like 100 MB in virt. ... |
| 04:59.22 | Stevie | ouch |
| 04:59.28 | sjr | SimonRaven: oh well |
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| 04:59.49 | Stevie | what was the error BEFORE the kill init line, despy? |
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| 05:00.19 | Despy | I was having errors about unmet dependencies left and right... and a missing update-rc.d file... which I've managed to replace now... |
| 05:00.20 | Stevie | normally that last error about killing init is the result of something bad that just happened |
| 05:00.44 | Despy | that's the only thing I see on the boot screen, let me go check again... |
| 05:00.45 | sjr | SimonRaven: how much is resident? |
| 05:00.51 | \amethyst | soup_: aptitude search '~Dprovides:www-browser~Dlibgtk!~Dmozilla-borwser gives: amaya, dillo, and xemacs |
| 05:00.52 | Stevie | maybe you should reinstall the OS; if you don't repartition you won't loseyour /home contents |
| 05:01.09 | Stevie | at least, you shouldn't. Someone else should chime in on that. |
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| 05:01.35 | Stevie | the nice thing about linux is that if you absolutely need access to your files, init=/bin/sh is all you need |
| 05:01.40 | SimonRaven | sjr: well it's swapped most of out almost immediately since this box has 128 MB RAM |
| 05:01.55 | Despy | auto:auto mo such file or directory |
| 05:01.58 | SimonRaven | yes yes, i need more RAM :) |
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| 05:02.02 | sjr | hehe |
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| 05:02.09 | Stevie | SimonRaven: 1998 called, they want their memory back |
| 05:02.19 | Despy | stevie, did you say if I just skip the partition step then I should be ok? |
| 05:02.20 | \amethyst | s/borw/brow/ |
| 05:02.28 | SimonRaven | i stuck in an old 3 GB drive just so i'd have the swap off the main drive |
| 05:02.32 | Stevie | yes, sjr, your comments on that? |
| 05:02.40 | SimonRaven | main swap anyway |
| 05:02.48 | elnovato | ok defionitly with free drivers, opengl doesnt work |
| 05:02.53 | Stevie | sjr: if despy reinstalls Deb and doesn't repartition anything, his /home should stick around, right? |
| 05:03.00 | Estes | Despy, You're welcome |
| 05:03.10 | Estes | Despy, OxO |
| 05:03.22 | sjr | er I guess so :D |
| 05:03.23 | Despy | Ahh, tnx Estes |
| 05:03.26 | Stevie | lol |
| 05:03.26 | sjr | sorry, wasn't paying attention |
| 05:03.39 | Estes | :P |
| 05:03.55 | Despy | "I guess so"?... could I get somethin a *little* more re-assuring? :) |
| 05:04.05 | sjr | lol |
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| 05:04.06 | Stevie | lol |
| 05:04.22 | sjr | ok, yes, just skip the partitioning |
| 05:04.28 | SimonRaven | Stevie: do you mind? i don't know you and this is a text medium so i'd appreciate it you would clarify if that was a sarcastic comment or just a (lame) joke |
| 05:04.41 | Despy | lol, sjr... ok, sounds better... do you believe it more, or just think *I* will? :) |
| 05:05.05 | nomade | which program is fellow de corel draw? |
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| 05:05.12 | sjr | lol, you'll be fine.. just after I grab my tickets to the Bahamas... |
| 05:05.13 | soup_ | \amethyst: thanks |
| 05:05.17 | \amethyst | nomade: inkscape |
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| 05:05.18 | Stevie | hahaha |
| 05:05.20 | sjr | nomade: GIMP? |
| 05:05.28 | \amethyst | sjr: corel draw is vector |
| 05:05.29 | garyn | hi, what's the best gallery software |
| 05:05.32 | elnovato | anyone have a clue how to make works opengl hardware aceleration for a ati radeon 9200 ? |
| 05:05.38 | sjr | Despy: do you have your /home directory on a different partition? |
| 05:05.43 | garyn | 4 show pics on a web page. |
| 05:05.44 | Estes | I didn't get it well, the package jailer is like the jail freebsd equivalent, to run a system chrooted from your system ? |
| 05:05.47 | Arafangion | elnovato, Try installing the ati driver? |
| 05:05.51 | Despy | sjr, nope, 1 plus a swap |
| 05:05.58 | garyn | hi, what's the best gallery software 2 show pics on web page. |
| 05:06.00 | sjr | well, try it anyway |
| 05:06.04 | Stevie | sjr: I believe you'll be fine. Just don't do any partitioning or filesystem making |
| 05:06.04 | elnovato | tryied all, Arafangion |
| 05:06.06 | sjr | unless you format it it shouldn't delete anything |
| 05:06.08 | \amethyst | 9200 should do accel with free drivers |
| 05:06.15 | SimonRaven | nomade: gimp m |
| 05:06.15 | sjr | !ati |
| 05:06.16 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
| 05:06.16 | Stevie | and don't run badblocks :) |
| 05:06.21 | Stevie | hehe |
| 05:06.23 | nomade | aff |
| 05:06.24 | SimonRaven | !best |
| 05:06.24 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 05:06.30 | \amethyst | elnovato: you're not using Xinerama dual-head, are you? |
| 05:06.32 | Despy | sjr, will all my apps/services still be available too? |
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| 05:06.35 | nomade | corel draw is master |
| 05:06.40 | nomade | no comparate |
| 05:06.42 | garyn | ok not best just throw a few names |
| 05:06.43 | garyn | pls |
| 05:06.48 | garyn | 4 gallery on web page. |
| 05:06.52 | sjr | garyn: Gallery? |
| 05:06.54 | elnovato | \amethyst: i have 2 monitors, but now its at clone mode |
| 05:06.57 | SimonRaven | master of what? |
| 05:06.58 | garyn | yes 2 shows pics on web page. |
| 05:06.59 | oldfart | !karma |
| 05:06.59 | dpkg | oldfart has neutral karma |
| 05:07.06 | Stevie | !karma |
| 05:07.11 | sjr | garyn: I mean the software called "gallery" |
| 05:07.14 | SimonRaven | igal, gallery |
| 05:07.15 | oldfart | oldfart++ |
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| 05:07.18 | nomade | SimonRaven many recourses avanced |
| 05:07.18 | Stevie | lol |
| 05:07.19 | oldfart | !karma |
| 05:07.19 | dpkg | oldfart has neutral karma |
| 05:07.22 | garyn | ah |
| 05:07.22 | oldfart | drat. |
| 05:07.27 | sjr | garyn: http://gallery.menalto.com/ |
| 05:07.32 | garyn | ty |
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| 05:07.37 | sjr | it's also in debian I believe |
| 05:07.41 | SimonRaven | oldfart: you can't add karma to yourself |
| 05:07.50 | Stevie | in #perl if you do <yournick>++ it performs <yournick>-- |
| 05:07.50 | oldfart | oldfart+ |
| 05:07.50 | oldfart | !karma |
| 05:07.50 | dpkg | oldfart has neutral karma |
| 05:07.53 | sjr | sjr+++++++ |
| 05:08.02 | \amethyst | elnovato: I use the radeon driver and got accel before I switched to Xinerama |
| 05:08.04 | SimonRaven | oldfart: you can't add karma to yourself |
| 05:08.09 | nomade | linux for designer grafics is bed |
| 05:08.25 | sjr | nomade for spelling is bad |
| 05:08.44 | nomade | sjr yes |
| 05:08.48 | SimonRaven | besides, you missed the ! ... |
| 05:08.53 | nomade | worst |
| 05:08.56 | elnovato | \amethyst: how many frames ps you had before? |
| 05:09.01 | BFA|WoRsT | what ? |
| 05:09.02 | garyn | web album/gallery software i guess |
| 05:09.15 | \amethyst | elnovato: with glxgears? in the hundreds |
| 05:09.43 | Stevie | I get millions of FPS at Nethack with the new Radeon 9500 ASC |
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| 05:09.55 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 05:10.05 | \amethyst | elnovato: what does xdriinfo say? |
| 05:10.18 | oldfart | !oldfart-- |
| 05:10.19 | sjr | I bought a 64 node cluster to run nethack faster |
| 05:10.24 | elnovato | Screen 0: not direct rendering capable. |
| 05:10.29 | Stevie | lol sjr |
| 05:10.36 | \amethyst | elnovato: what driver are you using right now? |
| 05:10.51 | elnovato | ati.com drivers |
| 05:11.08 | sjr | elnovato: probably not setup properly |
| 05:11.08 | \amethyst | elnovato: in your xorg.conf, are you loading the modules: dri, glx, and GLcore ? |
| 05:11.20 | \amethyst | elnovato: I don't know anything about the ati.com drivers, I use radeon |
| 05:11.20 | nomade | how spelling performance of conection dial 56 kbps? |
| 05:11.33 | sjr | nomade: very bad |
| 05:11.42 | elnovato | ok, what shall i do to use radeon drivers? |
| 05:11.43 | soup_ | who the hell designed the syntax for bind's config files |
| 05:11.57 | Despy | sjr, it wants to format my swap partition, but I don't think I care, and it's safe to do that, yes/no? (default = Y) :) |
| 05:12.01 | nomade | i conect in 46 kbps |
| 05:12.13 | sjr | Despy: ya thats safe but you don't have to if you don't want to |
| 05:12.23 | Despy | if it's safe, I'm ok with it. |
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| 05:12.31 | sjr | WAIT! |
| 05:12.32 | \amethyst | soup_: my guess would be Paul Vixie, but it might predate his involvement |
| 05:12.34 | sjr | just kidding. |
| 05:12.43 | Despy | lol... I *already* hate you :) |
| 05:12.45 | Stevie | haha |
| 05:12.53 | Stevie | You only need to format your swap partition once |
| 05:13.07 | \amethyst | elnovato: In the device section, use Driver "radeon" |
| 05:13.18 | Arafangion | zinx, Thanks for your help - I am 99% certain that it was mainly a dns/firewall hack rather than an actual intrusion. |
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| 05:13.24 | sjr | \amethyst: doesn't he want Driver "fglrx" ? |
| 05:13.27 | Arafangion | zinx, But will monitor it for the time being. |
| 05:13.28 | nomade | very low |
| 05:13.29 | \amethyst | elnovato: and make sure you are loading the modules I mentioned above in the Module section |
| 05:13.40 | Stevie | fglrx looks like somebody sneezed while typing |
| 05:13.55 | Arafangion | Stevie, That' |
| 05:13.59 | noiesmo | what are the odds, Server with raid 5 3 x 73Gb drives and 2 fail just a day before roll out |
| 05:14.02 | elnovato | \amethyst: ok lemme restart |
| 05:14.05 | Arafangion | Stevie, That's the ATI version of glx |
| 05:14.12 | Stevie | <Jim> What are we gonna name this new x driver, Bob? |
| 05:14.18 | noiesmo | !odds |
| 05:14.21 | Stevie | <Bob> I think we should name it fgrlx |
| 05:14.22 | \amethyst | sjr: sounds like he was already using fglrx |
| 05:15.01 | Stevie | <Jim> OK! Ship it! |
| 05:15.03 | Stevie | 5 minutes later |
| 05:15.18 | sjr | hehe |
| 05:15.27 | Stevie | <Bob> Sorry about that, sudden 5-minute sneezing fit. As I was saying, I think we should name it glx-ati |
| 05:15.35 | noiesmo | If I have 4 drives in raid 5 config and 2 die can it rebuild |
| 05:15.36 | nomade | which is higher connection existent? |
| 05:15.48 | sjr | nomade: then spelling get better |
| 05:15.55 | Arafangion | Any good network monitoring tools that look for suspicious traffic? (Such as dns hacks) |
| 05:15.59 | sjr | Arafangion: ntop! |
| 05:16.00 | Stevie | why the hell does this laptop have vacation installed |
| 05:16.09 | Arafangion | sjr, Heh, I've installed that last week :) |
| 05:16.15 | sjr | oh sorry, I just blurt that out whenever anybody mentions 'network monitoring' :P |
| 05:16.31 | Stevie | iptables -p DENY |
| 05:16.32 | sjr | maybe snort or something? |
| 05:16.35 | Stevie | err DROP |
| 05:16.39 | oldfart | sguil. |
| 05:16.39 | sjr | -P |
| 05:16.45 | Stevie | err yea |
| 05:16.45 | Arafangion | Stevie, I already deny by default : |
| 05:16.49 | Stevie | iptables -P DROP |
| 05:16.51 | Stevie | with no other rules |
| 05:16.54 | sjr | lol |
| 05:16.56 | sjr | that works OK |
| 05:16.56 | Stevie | Then there will be no suspicious traffic |
| 05:17.00 | Arafangion | Stevie, Heh. |
| 05:17.10 | Stevie | And if there is any traffic |
| 05:17.14 | Stevie | It is highly suspicious |
| 05:17.25 | Stevie | :) |
| 05:17.34 | Stevie | there's a bash quote around here somewhere |
| 05:17.34 | sjr | haha |
| 05:17.55 | Stevie | what's -f do? |
| 05:18.08 | oldfart | sguil is snort + p0f + tcpdump + ethereal + tcpflow + mysql ... |
| 05:18.25 | Stevie | you mean postgresql |
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| 05:19.03 | oldfart | sguil.sf.net |
| 05:19.09 | Stevie | Arafangion: http://www.bash.org/?106768 |
| 05:19.33 | Arafangion | Stevie, At the very least, I want something that is able to raise some sort of alarm (probably by email) and firewall out any IP's that do a portscan. |
| 05:20.02 | oldfart | no, I mean mysql. Probably works ok w/postgres too, tho. |
| 05:20.11 | Despy | hrm... not gettin as far as I thought... if I want to mount the drives I have from a console prompt, how do I do that again? |
| 05:20.23 | \amethyst | hmm |
| 05:20.25 | Stevie | mount /dev/hda1 /somewhere |
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| 05:20.43 | \amethyst | Do I have any chance of combining Xinerama and direct rendering? |
| 05:20.56 | Despy | ok, and what does "mount -t proc /proc proc" do? |
| 05:20.57 | \amethyst | perhaps with x2x instead of xinerama |
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| 05:21.06 | Stevie | mounts the proc filesystem |
| 05:21.23 | Despy | why does that give me an error? |
| 05:21.28 | Stevie | what error? |
| 05:21.31 | Despy | one sec.. |
| 05:21.39 | Stevie | (normally things give you an error because there's a problem) |
| 05:21.41 | oldfart | Despy: s/b already mounted. |
| 05:21.52 | epitaph | hi I'm trying to rescue my debian installation. I would simply chroot into root partition and install the last working list of packages, but my boot and root partitions are different and sh seems to be on boot but boot doesn't have chroot, how to fix this? |
| 05:22.09 | sjr | epitaph: that rhymes! |
| 05:22.27 | sjr | root boot and chroot |
| 05:22.29 | epitaph | sjr: yes I become a cutting edge poet when my ass is on fire. |
| 05:22.31 | Despy | "device or resource busy" |
| 05:22.35 | Stevie | haha |
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| 05:22.45 | Despy | ooh, forgot chroot.. |
| 05:23.11 | \amethyst | epitaph: what are you booting from? |
| 05:23.17 | \amethyst | epitaph: doesn't that have chroot? |
| 05:23.34 | \amethyst | epitaph: I mean, what is your real root fs |
| 05:23.36 | epitaph | \amethyst: some other undisclosed distro's livecd. And it has chroot. But I can only chroot into boot |
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| 05:23.55 | epitaph | my real root fs is ext3 on /dev/hdd5 ? |
| 05:23.59 | \amethyst | epitaph: you can't mount the other one? |
| 05:24.08 | epitaph | I can't mount /dev/hdd5, it says missing sh |
| 05:24.15 | epitaph | I can't find sh inside it either. And it is root. |
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| 05:24.31 | \amethyst | epitaph: err...mount shouldn't care about sh being there? |
| 05:24.46 | epitaph | hmm maybe my belief that it is root is misplaced. |
| 05:24.56 | sjr | epitaph: fdisk -l /dev/hdd |
| 05:24.57 | epitaph | I'll search in the other partitions as well. |
| 05:25.05 | epitaph | sjr: I have a list, I'll try them all. |
| 05:25.09 | sjr | okie |
| 05:25.29 | sjr | when you find it, mount it somewhere like /blah |
| 05:25.32 | sjr | then create /blah/boot |
| 05:25.38 | sjr | then mount /boot as /blah/boot |
| 05:25.39 | sjr | then chroot |
| 05:25.53 | \amethyst | yes, remount your entire directory structure under somewhere, then chroot there |
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| 05:26.11 | \amethyst | depending on how it's broken, though,... |
| 05:26.14 | epitaph | ah. Okay. The dirs are already there anyway. I'll try to recreate the dir structure. |
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| 05:26.20 | zebalin7 | With respect to upgrading Etch, what would you do first: X or kde??? |
| 05:26.24 | \amethyst | if you nuked /lib or something, that won't help |
| 05:26.40 | sjr | what is etch? |
| 05:26.46 | epitaph | nah just a few important packages got deleted |
| 05:26.49 | epitaph | etch is testing |
| 05:26.58 | sjr | o |
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| 05:27.05 | \amethyst | epitaph: enough to keep you from booting it? :( |
| 05:27.20 | epitaph | \amethyst: yes. It couldn't even load ext3 module.. |
| 05:27.25 | epitaph | it was modconf or something |
| 05:27.29 | oldfart | zebalin7: doesn't apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade work? |
| 05:27.37 | \amethyst | your initrd then |
| 05:27.39 | \amethyst | hm |
| 05:27.44 | stumbles | hi, i'm planning to use lvm for my whole disk -- are there any problems with putting swap in lvm too? |
| 05:27.50 | \amethyst | I should learn about this fancy new initrd thing |
| 05:27.58 | noiesmo | hey all If I have 4 drives in raid 5 config and 2 die can it rebuild |
| 05:27.58 | epitaph | I purged modconf probably |
| 05:28.03 | epitaph | sigh. Maybe I can't recover it then., |
| 05:28.11 | \amethyst | I've been booting the old-fashioned way for ten years now |
| 05:28.31 | zebalin7 | oldfart: I won't do a dist-upgrade. Too dangerous. I like to do things in stages to try to prevent breakage. Just a coward here!! I would think I would do kde first. |
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| 05:29.44 | Isil`Zha | hi. which programs other than vlc are able to connect to a realvideo stream and to forward this stream? no display desired. just forwaring |
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| 05:30.45 | oldfart | If you're using the 'testing' distro you should be less timid. I do that sort of update regularly, no probs. |
| 05:30.55 | Despy | blah... ok... missing something.... booted from CD, mounted my partition, chrooted it, why does mount -t proc /proc proc still say resource busy? |
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| 05:31.13 | Stevie | i think you have that backwards |
| 05:31.19 | Stevie | mount -t proc none /proc |
| 05:31.36 | zebalin7 | oldfart: normally I'd be less concerned, but this is a huge upgrade for etch... X, kde, udev, and a bunch of other stuff. I just don't want to bork the system by being stupid. |
| 05:31.50 | Despy | I used that command last time (I wrote it down) and it worked (earlier) |
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| 05:32.02 | Stevie | I think you have the /proc and proc swapped |
| 05:32.05 | Stevie | you need the /proc last |
| 05:32.14 | epitaph | zebalin7: I changed from hotplug to udev on unstable, there was no problem. |
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| 05:32.15 | Despy | -t proc proc /proc? |
| 05:32.17 | manu | How do i confgure loading of a odule automatically |
| 05:32.20 | manu | *module |
| 05:32.23 | Stevie | yes, despy |
| 05:32.30 | Despy | tryin that... |
| 05:32.32 | manu | the module is snd-pcm-oss |
| 05:32.39 | Stevie | the middle one is ignored (which is why I typed 'none', cuz that's how I always do it) |
| 05:32.51 | \amethyst | manu: list in in /etc/modules |
| 05:33.20 | Despy | didnt' work, same msg |
| 05:33.27 | sjr | Despy: are you chrooted? |
| 05:33.30 | manu | Thanks |
| 05:33.42 | manu | \amethyst: Thanks |
| 05:33.45 | \amethyst | np |
| 05:33.54 | Despy | yes? :) I think so, dumbest q yet... how would I check? |
| 05:34.08 | oldfart | zebalin7: perhaps do an apt-get install kde --fix-missing --fix-broken to autofix the deps and then do the other major packages one by one as well. |
| 05:34.11 | sjr | lol no idea |
| 05:34.22 | Joe7nooooo | could anyone help me with restoring files/dirs on ext3 after a hdderror? :// |
| 05:34.31 | zebalin7 | epitaph: etch already has udev. There is a conflict with the old hal so you want to install new hall before the new udev. |
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| 05:35.01 | zebalin7 | oldfart: why install and not reinstall for the kde meta package? |
| 05:35.12 | Despy | chroot /mnt/disk |
| 05:35.13 | Despy | yes? |
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| 05:35.17 | epitaph | just saying there was no problem |
| 05:35.28 | sjr | Despy: yep, then immediately do mount -t proc proc proc |
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| 05:35.50 | epitaph | btw I did mount boot, chrooted and then mount -a to get the rest. |
| 05:35.51 | Despy | hrm... k, I'll try that all again... |
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| 05:36.06 | sjr | epitaph: cool |
| 05:36.48 | sjr | 25 minutes to 5pm... |
| 05:36.52 | sjr | on a friday.. |
| 05:37.08 | sjr | cmon time! |
| 05:37.11 | elnovato | oh friday again |
| 05:37.14 | Stevie | 25 minutes to 1am |
| 05:37.16 | Stevie | on a friday |
| 05:37.20 | Stevie | slow down time |
| 05:37.23 | sjr | hehe |
| 05:37.27 | Stevie | :) |
| 05:37.33 | sjr | it's beer o'clock and here I am at work |
| 05:37.49 | Stevie | lol |
| 05:38.03 | Stevie | why the fsck did I install vacation on this laptop |
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| 05:38.10 | Stevie | that's what i get for using tasksel I guess |
| 05:38.14 | sjr | wistful thinking? |
| 05:38.15 | epitaph | now I have my list grep ^ii ./installed| awk '{printf $2 " "}' |
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| 05:38.34 | oldfart | zebalin7: install will just do the new packages, not actually reinstall, iirc |
| 05:38.38 | epitaph | I'll just install them and hope I didn't purge something too important |
| 05:38.46 | sjr | epitaph: now pipe that to xargs dpkg -i ! |
| 05:38.53 | epitaph | no xargs needed |
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| 05:39.11 | epitaph | dpkg -i `grep ^ii ./installed| awk '{printf $2 " "}'` should do |
| 05:39.14 | Stevie | backticks? |
| 05:39.15 | Stevie | hehe |
| 05:39.18 | epitaph | haha |
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| 05:39.19 | sjr | hehe |
| 05:39.20 | Stevie | haha |
| 05:39.20 | epitaph | hahahaa |
| 05:39.26 | _pp[hamas] | !lose debian |
| 05:39.27 | dpkg | debian: You Lose. |
| 05:39.27 | sjr | backticks bad if your arglist is too long |
| 05:39.37 | Stevie | oh come on |
| 05:39.40 | epitaph | wait now |
| 05:39.40 | Stevie | you can have like |
| 05:39.41 | Stevie | 32000 args |
| 05:39.47 | sjr | 130kb is a typical limit |
| 05:39.57 | epitaph | I do it with aptitude install -y |
| 05:39.59 | Stevie | some huge freaking number |
| 05:40.00 | sjr | it's a common problem I have! |
| 05:40.02 | \amethyst | even I don't have that many packages |
| 05:40.04 | _keroppi_ | If I've done a ./configure, and I want to make a debian package with the default prefix, how do I gather all the files and directories the package installs with "make install", to put in a deb file? |
| 05:40.05 | \amethyst | files, yes |
| 05:40.12 | Stevie | what the fsck are you doing that you need 131kb of args |
| 05:40.22 | _keroppi_ | I realize I can change the prefix to some empty directory, but then it will only install to there... |
| 05:40.24 | sjr | in this particular directory at work, rm * will produce rm: Argument list too long. |
| 05:40.26 | \amethyst | Stevie: not using xargs :) |
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| 05:40.29 | Arafangion | Stevie, rsync hardlink-based backup system? |
| 05:40.31 | _keroppi_ | Is there something that can "catch" the install? |
| 05:40.43 | Stevie | a baseball glove? |
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| 05:40.46 | epitaph | if I exceed the limit, I use a for loop |
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| 05:40.52 | sjr | loop is slower |
| 05:40.53 | JacksonBrown | !lose debian |
| 05:40.54 | dpkg | debian: You Lose. |
| 05:40.55 | sjr | xargs is the greatest |
| 05:40.57 | Stevie | xargs rules |
| 05:40.59 | epitaph | boo! |
| 05:41.02 | JacksonBrown | !lose debian |
| 05:41.03 | _pp[hamas] | !lose debian |
| 05:41.04 | dpkg | debian: You Lose. |
| 05:41.04 | _pp[hamas] | !lose debian |
| 05:41.04 | _pp[hamas] | !lose debian |
| 05:41.04 | _pp[hamas] | !lose debian |
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| 05:41.05 | JacksonBrown | !lose debian |
| 05:41.05 | JacksonBrown | !lose debian |
| 05:41.06 | Arafangion | I used find instead. |
| 05:41.06 | JacksonBrown | !lose debian |
| 05:41.07 | JacksonBrown | !lose debian |
| 05:41.12 | JacksonBrown | !lose debian |
| 05:41.13 | JacksonBrown | !lose debian |
| 05:41.14 | ft | stop it! |
| 05:41.18 | _keroppi_ | JacksonBrown: shutup |
| 05:41.18 | sjr | yea find with a pipe to xargs! |
| 05:41.24 | dpkg | debian: You Lose. |
| 05:41.24 | JacksonBrown | debian sucks cock |
| 05:41.24 | Kinks | congrats on displaying your ability to spam |
| 05:41.25 | JacksonBrown | lolhy |
| 05:41.27 | JacksonBrown | debian sucks cock |
| 05:41.27 | JacksonBrown | lolhy |
| 05:41.28 | JacksonBrown | debian sucks cock |
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| 05:41.35 | \amethyst | sjr: and remember your -0 |
| 05:41.37 | \amethyst | s |
| 05:41.42 | elnovato | i bet was a spanish guy |
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| 05:41.45 | JacksonBrown | lol |
| 05:41.45 | JacksonBrown | wat |
| 05:41.46 | JacksonBrown | lol |
| 05:41.47 | JacksonBrown | wat |
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| 05:41.54 | Arafangion | Definetly a script |
| 05:41.57 | JacksonBrown | mogger |
| 05:41.59 | JacksonBrown | [;z |
| 05:42.01 | JacksonBrown | nigger |
| 05:42.03 | JacksonBrown | plz |
| 05:42.04 | _keroppi_ | Wow, they've even removed the word "kicked" from the kick messages |
| 05:42.05 | JacksonBrown | nigger |
| 05:42.07 | JacksonBrown | plz |
| 05:42.09 | elnovato | i bet was a spanish guy |
| 05:42.09 | JacksonBrown | nigger |
| 05:42.11 | JacksonBrown | plz |
| 05:42.12 | Stevie | yeah, what's the deal with that? |
| 05:42.13 | JacksonBrown | nigger |
| 05:42.15 | JacksonBrown | plz |
| 05:42.17 | JacksonBrown | nigger |
| 05:42.18 | sjr | find -print0 is neat |
| 05:42.19 | JacksonBrown | plz |
| 05:42.21 | sjr | thanks for that! |
| 05:42.21 | JacksonBrown | nigger |
| 05:42.22 | Stevie | what was wrong with /kick ? |
| 05:42.22 | Kinks | well |
| 05:42.23 | JacksonBrown | plz |
| 05:42.24 | Arafangion | _keroppi_, It's a channel mode, a hyperion/dancer ircd thing. |
| 05:42.25 | JacksonBrown | nigger |
| 05:42.27 | JacksonBrown | plz |
| 05:42.29 | elnovato | a poor 10 years old kid |
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| 05:42.29 | JacksonBrown | nigger |
| 05:42.31 | Kinks | /ignore does exist for a reason |
| 05:42.31 | JacksonBrown | plz |
| 05:42.33 | JacksonBrown | nigger |
| 05:42.35 | JacksonBrown | plz |
| 05:42.37 | JacksonBrown | nigger |
| 05:42.37 | bjoern | hi, could you help me? ;-) I doesn`t bring my Laserjet 5N ( connectet via network ) to work. It`s installed at cups. |
| 05:42.42 | Stevie | hahahhaha |
| 05:42.44 | Arafangion | kimo__, 761 people shouldn't have to /ignore |
| 05:42.57 | _keroppi_ | If I've done a ./configure, and I want to make a debian package with the default prefix, how do I gather all the files and directories the package installs with "make install", to put in a deb file? |
| 05:42.58 | Stevie | the ircd decided to /ignore |
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| 05:43.51 | Stevie | Can't call method "choices" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line 106, <GEN1> line 5. |
| 05:43.53 | Stevie | wtf |
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| 05:44.22 | Isil`Zha | if i try to install vlc on oldstable i get an error that it depends on dbus-1 and libhal0, which apt refuses to install |
| 05:44.32 | Arafangion | Stevie, Perl? |
| 05:44.40 | Isil`Zha | because of unmet dependencies |
| 05:44.57 | \amethyst | Isil`Zha: DESTDIR perhaps? |
| 05:45.00 | Stevie | debconf on iamerican and ibritish |
| 05:45.29 | Isil`Zha | \amethyst: what do you mean? |
| 05:45.29 | \amethyst | Isil`Zha: yes, the DESTDIR env variable is what you want |
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| 05:45.50 | \amethyst | Isil`Zha: DESTDIR=directory make |
| 05:45.53 | \amethyst | Isil`Zha: DESTDIR=directory make install |
| 05:46.03 | \amethyst | just need it on the make install, not the make |
| 05:46.04 | _pp[hamas] | Isil`Zha, is your nickname jewish |
| 05:46.08 | _pp[hamas] | it sounds jewish |
| 05:46.24 | Isil`Zha | _pp[hamas]: would you have a problem with that or why are you asking? |
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| 05:46.31 | _pp[hamas] | yes |
| 05:46.32 | Isil`Zha | \amethyst: ok i'll check this. thank you |
| 05:46.34 | _pp[hamas] | i would |
| 05:46.36 | \amethyst | Isil`Zha: look at the nick :) |
| 05:46.40 | quik_ | how do I recursivly apply a user to a directory? |
| 05:46.47 | sjr | quik_: chown -R ? |
| 05:46.48 | \amethyst | _pp[hamas]: go away, please |
| 05:46.54 | quik_ | ah |
| 05:47.03 | _pp[hamas] | \amethyst, why r u so homophobic |
| 05:47.07 | sjr | haha |
| 05:47.27 | Stevie | he's not homophobic |
| 05:47.29 | sjr | !dftt |
| 05:47.29 | dpkg | it has been said that dftt is don't feed the trolls |
| 05:47.31 | Stevie | he's misanthropic. |
| 05:47.46 | Stevie | Anyone with two brain cells can clearly see that. |
| 05:47.56 | \amethyst | grumble grumble |
| 05:48.01 | Stevie | tcpatg! |
| 05:48.12 | sjr | ?? |
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| 05:50.31 | Stevie | the correct version of kde |
| 05:51.37 | elnovato | whats better kde or gnome? |
| 05:51.48 | noiesmo | kde |
| 05:51.56 | noiesmo | but thts just my opinion |
| 05:51.57 | streuner_ | dpkg, start a wm war |
| 05:51.57 | dpkg | emacs makes me vomit! |
| 05:52.57 | Stevie | emacs is a great os, but the editor sucks |
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| 05:53.03 | sjr | :P |
| 05:53.11 | Stevie | And someone else apparently agrees |
| 05:53.19 | Stevie | because 'emacs' was in a *window manager* war |
| 05:54.05 | Stevie | GnomeTKDE |
| 05:54.05 | n3x_ | Gnome FTW |
| 05:54.26 | elnovato | ftw? |
| 05:54.31 | Stevie | fsck the what? |
| 05:54.41 | Stevie | I work for a company called Freedompay |
| 05:54.45 | Stevie | Welcome |
| 05:54.45 | Stevie | To |
| 05:54.47 | Stevie | Freedompay |
| 05:54.53 | Stevie | ^--- first column |
| 05:54.57 | sjr | lol.. |
| 05:55.02 | sjr | KDE > Gnome! |
| 05:55.05 | Stevie | my boss printed that out and put it on his door |
| 05:55.17 | Stevie | with the initial letters in bold red |
| 05:55.30 | elnovato | mm ok, installing kde |
| 05:55.45 | Isil`Zha | \amethyst: why do you think resetting this variable would be a good idea? i don't really thinkn the problem roots so deep as i did install a package (lynx) today without any problem |
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| 05:56.33 | Stevie | (KDE - Gnome) / xpde < fvwm / elightenment + fvwm95 * blackbox |
| 05:56.40 | \amethyst | Isil`Zha: sorry |
| 05:56.43 | duanear | Is there an app to test my hard drive? e2fsck passes but the drive is really dubious. |
| 05:56.47 | \amethyst | Isil`Zha: I just realised |
| 05:56.55 | \amethyst | Isil`Zha: I was replying to the wrong person :( |
| 05:56.58 | streuner_ | dpkg, factinfo start a wm war |
| 05:56.58 | dpkg | start a wm war -- created by greycat <~wooledg@imadev.eeg.ccf.org> at Fri Jun 28 12:35:48 2002 (1329 days); it has been requested 333 times, last by nimak at Wed Nov 23 15:48:40 2005. |
| 05:57.10 | noiesmo | duanear, use ultimate boot cd has manufacturer diaganostic tools |
| 05:57.15 | \amethyst | _keroppi_: still here? |
| 05:57.21 | Isil`Zha | \amethyst: oh ^^ ok nevermind |
| 05:57.24 | _keroppi_ | \amethyst: yeah |
| 05:57.41 | Stevie | how did he create it? |
| 05:57.51 | duanear | noiesmo: from within linux |
| 05:57.51 | duanear | ? |
| 05:58.01 | Isil`Zha | anybody else got an idea why apt doesn't like vlc? |
| 05:58.11 | Stevie | define "doesn't like" |
| 05:58.17 | \amethyst | _keroppi_: use the DESTDIR environment variable when doing make install |
| 05:58.32 | elnovato | Isil`Zha: debian etch/ |
| 05:58.33 | noiesmo | duanear, no unable to help you then sorry |
| 05:58.35 | elnovato | Isil`Zha: debian etch? |
| 05:58.36 | Stevie | did apt pull out a thompson and shoot up vlc's neighborhood |
| 05:58.37 | Stevie | ? |
| 05:58.45 | Isil`Zha | "the following packages have unmet dependencies" (dbus-1 and libhal0) |
| 05:58.46 | _keroppi_ | \amethyst: And that tricks it to make it think that '/' is DESTDIR, or slightly different? |
| 05:58.52 | streuner_ | Isil`Zha: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 05:58.55 | Stevie | aptitude can help you with that, isil |
| 05:59.01 | \amethyst | _keroppi_: yes, it installs everything under DESTDIR instead of / |
| 05:59.09 | \amethyst | _keroppi_: but your --prefix and all that are still /usr |
| 05:59.11 | Isil`Zha | i still use oldstable |
| 05:59.17 | _keroppi_ | \amethyst: Do you set this before configure, or before "make install"? |
| 05:59.22 | _keroppi_ | \amethyst: I understand, thanks! |
| 05:59.29 | \amethyst | _keroppi_: DESTDIR=foo/ make install |
| 05:59.37 | \amethyst | _keroppi_: you only need it in that step |
| 05:59.39 | Stevie | oldstable? |
| 05:59.41 | streuner_ | Isil`Zha: hm, the command should also for oldstable |
| 05:59.46 | streuner_ | woody |
| 05:59.49 | Stevie | oh |
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| 05:59.58 | _keroppi_ | \amethyst: Thanks man, nobody said that in their "how to make a debian package" tutorials. =) |
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| 06:00.12 | Stevie | I could have sworn this thing said it needed to download 188 files, but i'm at 272 now |
| 06:00.12 | EruditeHermit | hey, I have a problem removing a file. I ger permission denied even when root |
| 06:00.14 | _keroppi_ | \amethyst: Is there a lazy way to make one, where it asks you all the parameters of a control file? |
| 06:00.18 | EruditeHermit | can anyone help? |
| 06:00.20 | Stevie | EruditeHermit: what file? |
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| 06:00.40 | EruditeHermit | Stevie: cannot remove `/usr/share/doc/libapm1/copyright': Operation not permitted |
| 06:00.43 | Isil`Zha | streuner_: that it is installed. or do you need the exact message? |
| 06:00.45 | \amethyst | _keroppi_: have you looked at dh_make? |
| 06:00.49 | Stevie | EruditeHermit: lsattr |
| 06:00.55 | Stevie | lsattr /usr/share/doc/libapm1/copyright |
| 06:00.56 | streuner_ | Isil`Zha: yes, please give us the info |
| 06:00.59 | _keroppi_ | \amethyst: not yet |
| 06:01.14 | Isil`Zha | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 06:01.14 | Isil`Zha | 500 ftp://ftp2.de.debian.org stable/main Packages |
| 06:01.18 | Stevie | do you get all ----s? |
| 06:01.21 | EruditeHermit | Stevie: ----i------------ /usr/share/doc/libapm1/copyright |
| 06:01.30 | Stevie | 'i' means 'immutable'. Not even root can touch it. |
| 06:01.36 | streuner_ | Isil`Zha: ok, you are using sarge/stable |
| 06:01.40 | EruditeHermit | Stevie: why is it so? |
| 06:01.44 | Stevie | No idea |
| 06:01.52 | Stevie | you can use chattr -i to fix it |
| 06:01.59 | \amethyst | _keroppi_: it might be just what you're looking for |
| 06:02.04 | streuner_ | Isil`Zha: /msg dpkg paster ; and show us your sources.list |
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| 06:02.47 | EruditeHermit | Stevie: will crashes, cause that? |
| 06:02.47 | Isil`Zha | streuner_: i do you sarge? i didn't upgrade. ok seems to be an issue i need to resolve another time. |
| 06:02.59 | MrNaz | how do you check if deb is using both CPUs in a dual cpu box? |
| 06:03.12 | streuner_ | !info libc6 sarge |
| 06:03.16 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-22 (sarge), Packaged size: 4784 kB, Installed size: 15548 kB |
| 06:03.20 | Stevie | EruditeHermit: no idea |
| 06:03.29 | EruditeHermit | Stevie: thanks, it seems to have fixed the problem |
| 06:04.32 | Stevie | I'm really starting to think this is almost done. |
| 06:04.37 | Stevie | I hope i'm right. |
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| 06:05.24 | _keroppi_ | \amethyst: thanks again |
| 06:05.25 | jetscreamer | what |
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| 06:05.47 | Despy | "..requires modprobe: could not run modprobe.modutils: no such file or directory" why? what? how? who? huh? :) |
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| 06:06.03 | smagnusson | Just installed Etch and sshd doesn't seem to be installed; is there something new going on since Sarge? |
| 06:06.04 | jetscreamer | apt-get install module-init-tools maybe |
| 06:06.06 | Stevie | dunno. |
| 06:06.41 | Despy | will try that... |
| 06:06.42 | jetscreamer | install it |
| 06:06.49 | jetscreamer | ssh i mean |
| 06:07.09 | phobo | ssh is installed |
| 06:07.10 | sjr | do you have module-init-tools and modutils installed? |
| 06:07.23 | phobo | apt-get install sshd doesn't do anything |
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| 06:07.34 | Stevie | so you see this? |
| 06:07.36 | jetscreamer | not you? |
| 06:07.37 | Stevie | # apt-get install sshd |
| 06:07.38 | Stevie | # |
| 06:07.44 | sjr | apt-get install openssh-server |
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| 06:07.59 | Stevie | heh |
| 06:08.02 | \amethyst | phobo: it's been split into two packages |
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| 06:08.20 | Isil`Zha | streuner_: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1854 |
| 06:08.24 | phobo | cool, thats what I wanted to know amethyst :) |
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| 06:08.28 | \amethyst | phobo: although package ssh should depend on them both... |
| 06:08.36 | phobo | ok |
| 06:08.51 | Stevie | This is linux. Is anything really the way it should be? |
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| 06:08.58 | sjr | Stevie: GNU/Nope |
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| 06:09.23 | sjr | 10 minutes till home time... cmon!! |
| 06:09.25 | Stevie | Of course :) If it was, we wouldn't be here because nobody would be coming in for help. |
| 06:09.28 | Despy | trying to install init-tools gives me unmet dependencies, kdelibs4c2a: depends: kdelibs-data... etc |
| 06:09.30 | Stevie | Wait |
| 06:09.41 | Stevie | You said 25 minutes before... and that was 35 minutes ago |
| 06:09.54 | sjr | yea I forgot I came late to work |
| 06:10.04 | streuner_ | Isil`Zha: comment all lines with 'non-US' |
| 06:10.04 | Stevie | lol |
| 06:10.08 | Stevie | where do you work? |
| 06:10.18 | Stevie | And do they know they're paying you to sit on IRC? |
| 06:10.21 | streuner_ | Isil`Zha: and run 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' |
| 06:10.23 | MrNaz | does anyone know if debian sarge's minimilast amd64 support includes ability to use over 4gb of ram? |
| 06:10.26 | sjr | Stevie: nope ;) |
| 06:10.30 | sjr | paying good $$ too ;) |
| 06:10.33 | Stevie | haha |
| 06:10.36 | Stevie | ok then :) |
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| 06:10.38 | \amethyst | sjr: are you the network admin? |
| 06:10.42 | streuner_ | Isil`Zha: s/comment/delete/ |
| 06:10.45 | Despy | how do I resolve those unmet dependencies, apt-get -f install doesn't do it, dpkg gives me some subprocess error |
| 06:10.50 | sjr | \amethyst: Oracle developer (!) |
| 06:10.52 | Stevie | The network admin would leave when he wishes. |
| 06:10.59 | sjr | Stevie: true hehe |
| 06:11.08 | \amethyst | sjr: so perhaps the network admin does know they're paying you to IRC |
| 06:11.17 | Stevie | haha |
| 06:11.26 | sjr | \amethyst: all he knows is they're paying me to have some strange SSH connection open all day |
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| 06:11.37 | \amethyst | and is waiting for the right moment to blackm^H^H^H^H^H^Hmake you aware of this |
| 06:11.41 | Stevie | thank god for tunneling |
| 06:11.43 | \amethyst | heh |
| 06:11.55 | sjr | hehe I tunnel X over SSH to home using Low-bandwith-X |
| 06:12.02 | Stevie | I know a guy who's BOFH-style like that. |
| 06:12.14 | sjr | http://xtuml.jdns.org/lbx-plus-ssh.jpg |
| 06:12.28 | \amethyst | I've thought about setting up lbx |
| 06:12.36 | Stevie | I made a custom X.509 certificate for him for www.yahoo.com |
| 06:12.52 | Stevie | he installed the CA that issued it as at trusted root cert on all the machines where he works |
| 06:13.10 | Stevie | I think you can see where i'm going with this. |
| 06:13.15 | sjr | lol |
| 06:13.20 | sjr | MITM! |
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| 06:13.47 | Stevie | I taught him how to do this after one of the employees somehow figured out he was monitoring their yahoo emails |
| 06:13.54 | sjr | in that screenshot, my KDE stuff is running on my home computer behind an ADSL connection |
| 06:14.00 | Isil`Zha | streuner_: ok i did that. no changes |
| 06:14.06 | Stevie | and started using ssl |
| 06:14.10 | sjr | Stevie: hehe |
| 06:14.13 | sjr | poor mortal :( |
| 06:14.31 | Stevie | hey, the dude was flirting with the receptionist instead of working :P |
| 06:14.35 | Despy | can't install init-tools gives me unmet dependencies, suggestions? |
| 06:14.44 | sjr | I hate people who don't work while they're at work! |
| 06:14.47 | Stevie | of course, my friend was IRCing and downloading dvds from a torrent site instead of working |
| 06:15.04 | sjr | dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/init-tools-whatever.deb |
| 06:15.08 | Stevie | but where would we be if not for preferential treatment and favoritism? |
| 06:15.21 | Stevie | good fscking GOD |
| 06:15.30 | streuner_ | Isil`Zha: show us the full error in paster |
| 06:15.41 | Stevie | how many more kde programs are there |
| 06:15.43 | ssm | Stevie: better find a job where IRCing _is_ working. For torrenting, I guess you need to work at RIAA or something.... :D |
| 06:15.50 | \amethyst | sjr: a utopia where your brain is running init-tools? :) |
| 06:16.04 | sjr | \amethyst: hehe, modprobe intelligence |
| 06:16.17 | Stevie | libjpeg-progs, konq-plugins, ksig, libaa1, noatun, vim-common, vimgui-common |
| 06:16.20 | \amethyst | FATAL: Module intelligence not found. |
| 06:16.25 | Stevie | kdeadmin-kfile-plugins |
| 06:16.48 | N0S3 | i have a problem |
| 06:16.48 | ssm | \amethyst: I'd hate to think of the dependencies for that module otherwise |
| 06:16.53 | Stevie | VFS: Failed to locate signs of intelligence on (0, 3)! |
| 06:16.56 | Isil`Zha | streuner_: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1855 |
| 06:16.59 | Stevie | kernel panic: init killed! |
| 06:17.03 | sjr | Stevie: heheh |
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| 06:17.30 | Stevie | kdeartwork-theme-icon, kdeartwork-theme-window, kdeartwork-emoticons(WTF?) |
| 06:17.50 | sjr | ok, work day complete |
| 06:17.55 | Stevie | l8r sjr |
| 06:17.56 | Tallu | Hooray for starting to work from home, haha. Going to be managing the network from home for 3 days a week now |
| 06:18.00 | sjr | work accomplished: minimal still required to keep job |
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| 06:18.17 | sjr | cya all! Good luck Despy ! |
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| 06:18.40 | Stevie | Error installing kmrml: Insufficient vowels |
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| 06:19.19 | ssm | Stevie: I think you modprobed pedantry instead of intelligence on that box.... |
| 06:19.29 | Stevie | I don't want either |
| 06:19.32 | Stevie | I just want kde |
| 06:19.36 | ssm | ewww |
| 06:19.43 | Stevie | kmid kmix krec kscd |
| 06:19.56 | Stevie | kdnssd |
| 06:20.16 | Stevie | klmnopqrstuvwxyz |
| 06:20.26 | ssm | right.... |
| 06:20.36 | streuner_ | Isil`Zha: I've no idea why the system doesn't resolve those depends, 1) just run 'apt-setup' and delete your sources.list (choose security.debian.org), 2) just download dbus-1 and libhal via pdo.debian.net (http://pdo.debian.net/stable/devel/dbus-1) |
| 06:21.29 | optraz | hello all, encounter power failure and after that when i start my debian, no more X come out. i did /etc/init.d/kdm restart but it does not show the GUI. Please help. thanks |
| 06:21.45 | Stevie | Do you see an error message anywhere? |
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| 06:22.06 | Tallu | I just decided to buy a 400mhz computer to install debian on, it's been a while since I've had it installed! |
| 06:22.31 | Isil`Zha | streuner_: actually i just tried to install dbus-1 using apt and it seems to work. should i proceed or would i worthen things this way? |
| 06:22.43 | elnovato | Tallu: congo rats |
| 06:22.43 | Stevie | i'm installing on a raw powerhouse: a Celeron 150. With 128MB RAM. And I haven't checked, but I don't think the IDE chipset supports DMA. |
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| 06:23.12 | streuner_ | Isil`Zha: well, everything seems fine then |
| 06:23.44 | N0S3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:23.51 | ssm | N0S3: of course |
| 06:24.33 | N0S3 | ssm: already you that it is not the channel appropriate, .... but |
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| 06:25.05 | ssm | N0S3: can't be bothered to change channel, just say you're running squid on Debian. :D |
| 06:25.18 | Stevie | haha |
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| 06:25.48 | N0S3 | ssm: thank you |
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| 06:26.53 | N0S3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:27.16 | dsl | hello |
| 06:27.18 | Stevie | hopster? |
| 06:27.35 | Isil`Zha | streuner_: i guess i should first complete my upgrade to sarge... no the message when trying to install vlc is that he wants to upgrade 14 packages, install 61 and remove 12.... i guess the reason that libc6 was there is because i agreed to a similar thing a few weeks ago. thanks anyway |
| 06:27.49 | Isil`Zha | *now |
| 06:28.00 | streuner_ | np |
| 06:28.13 | ssm | N0S3: yes, you can use the "browser" ACL keyword, to match on the user agent string, and block it that way |
| 06:28.14 | N0S3 | Stevie: yes , hopster: bypass firewall |
| 06:28.26 | MrNaz | does anyone know if debian sarge's minimilast amd64 support includes ability to use over 4gb of ram? |
| 06:28.28 | N0S3 | ssm: ahhh |
| 06:28.32 | Stevie | how does hopster bypass the firewall? |
| 06:29.01 | ssm | http://www.hopster.com/, I guess |
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| 06:29.21 | ssm | ip-over-http tunnel |
| 06:29.26 | Stevie | ah |
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| 06:29.57 | Stevie | 640MB of RAM ought to be enough for anybody. |
| 06:29.58 | ssm | It's easily blockable. I like http://thomer.com/howtos/nstx.html better ( ip tunneled over DNS ) |
| 06:30.09 | stew | MrNaz: yes, all 64bit linux kernels will support > 4gb of ram |
| 06:30.18 | Stevie | ssm: hahaha, you know, I once considered a feature like that |
| 06:30.19 | N0S3 | Stevie: http://www.http-tunnel.com |
| 06:30.38 | Stevie | but I had nothing I needed to bypass and therefore couldn't be arsed |
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| 06:31.07 | MrNaz | stew so does debian sarge automatically compile a 64 bit kernel if i have an opteron machine? |
| 06:31.15 | ssm | MrNaz: no |
| 06:31.15 | Despy | no matter what I try, I keep getting told that kdedata has unmet dependencies, it needs version 4:3.5.1 or higher, but 4:3.1.4-2 is going to be installed, what do I do, oh gurus of computer wisdom? (and don't ask if I like ice cream!) :) |
| 06:31.21 | Stevie | uh oh |
| 06:31.21 | MrNaz | ssm thats what i was asking |
| 06:31.21 | stew | MrNaz: no |
| 06:31.35 | broomy | does anybody know why my system doesnt shut down properly when i do a shutdown -t now, it just stops and it says power down :S |
| 06:31.42 | Stevie | EXT3-fs error(device ide0(3,1)): ext3_geT_inode_loc: unable to read inode block - inode=554953, block=1114152 |
| 06:31.47 | ssm | Despy: are you running stable, with no other apt sources? |
| 06:31.47 | MrNaz | thats no biggie i dont need a 64 bit kernel for now anyway |
| 06:31.52 | stew | MrNaz: if you use the amd64 port you will end up with a 64 bit kernel |
| 06:31.54 | Despy | ssm, yes |
| 06:31.56 | Stevie | this does not look good |
| 06:32.14 | MrNaz | stew yea ill wait for that port to mature a bit first before putting it on my production box |
| 06:32.26 | Stevie | this does not look good at all. |
| 06:32.29 | MrNaz | stew / ssm i have a dual opteron setup, how do i enable smp support? |
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| 06:32.38 | ssm | MrNaz: install an SMP kernel |
| 06:32.42 | MrNaz | ssm how? |
| 06:32.58 | MrNaz | is there a url coz i cant find a guide on how to do that.... |
| 06:33.01 | broomy | does anybody know why my system doesnt shut down properly when i do a shutdown -t now, it just stops and it says power down :S |
| 06:33.07 | N0S3 | ssm: I will investigate, then I comment you |
| 06:33.17 | ssm | N0S3: ok |
| 06:33.19 | jetscreamer | you're going to # him? |
| 06:33.30 | jetscreamer | them's fighen werds |
| 06:33.40 | ssm | MrNaz: "apt-cache search kernel smp" should give you a list |
| 06:33.58 | ssm | jetscreamer: #, and again ### ! :D |
| 06:34.03 | jetscreamer | ow |
| 06:34.03 | MrNaz | ssm and i can just safely apt-get install a new kernel? |
| 06:34.15 | Despy | ssm, any idea on my dependencies issue? (lol, hi, my name's dave, and I have dependencies issues....) |
| 06:34.25 | jetscreamer | hi dave |
| 06:34.28 | Despy | lol |
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| 06:34.50 | Stevie | christ |
| 06:34.51 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 06:34.53 | Stevie | this is not good. |
| 06:34.55 | jetscreamer | !fix-depends |
| 06:35.10 | Stevie | hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 06:35.18 | jetscreamer | no |
| 06:35.22 | Stevie | hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } |
| 06:35.25 | Despy | jets, are you kidding me? |
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| 06:35.41 | jetscreamer | but sometimes if you let it sit off for a while, you have enough time to get the data Stevie |
| 06:35.41 | ssm | Despy: I'm setting up a new vserver, I'll try to reproduce the dependency error. Takes a few minutes to install a new sarge box |
| 06:35.52 | jetscreamer | Despy: the bot didn't respond |
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| 06:35.55 | Despy | ssm, you wanna log into mine? |
| 06:35.59 | Stevie | It's 1:35AM |
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| 06:36.07 | Stevie | Good thing I have a spare 2.5" drive laying about |
| 06:36.20 | Stevie | this could take a while. I'm going to Wawa to get something to eat. |
| 06:36.24 | Stevie | bbl |
| 06:36.25 | Despy | jets, ahh |
| 06:36.38 | ssm | MrNaz: as long as you're installing a kernel from debian stable, and you're not installing the wrong type, you should be OK, although changing your kernel should not be done without reason |
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| 06:36.51 | ssm | Despy: no need, yet. |
| 06:36.57 | jetscreamer | !fix-unmet |
| 06:36.58 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, fix-unmet is run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once. then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked), or eg, basically, don't edit sources, don't select anything, just go to option 2 and hit enter a lot |
| 06:37.06 | MrNaz | ssm indeed... but i have 2 opteron cpus and /proc/cpuinfo tells me im only using one |
| 06:37.08 | Despy | ssm, I dunno if this is a re-creatable problem, it's kinda messed |
| 06:37.16 | jetscreamer | now that works |
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| 06:37.25 | MrNaz | kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on AMD64 SMP systems |
| 06:37.36 | MrNaz | thats the one i think i need for my dual opteron box |
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| 06:38.41 | Despy | jets, I'll try the bot's suggestion, but I think I'll be right back :) ssm, brb... |
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| 06:39.24 | ke6isf | A bit of weirdness. When disconnecting my digital camera (note, just pulling the plug), my system freezes. I noted that, if I'm on a console, I get the error "ohci_hcd 0000:00:07.4: wakeup". Also, if I go to rm or mv a pic from the camera, the deletion just doesn't seem to happen for whatever reason. What should I look for to solve this problem? |
| 06:39.32 | ssm | MrNaz: which kernel package are you using now? |
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| 06:40.36 | Despy | no good on dselect, same problem |
| 06:41.07 | ssm | Despy: I'd be _very_ desperate to try dselect... :D |
| 06:41.26 | Despy | ssm, I'm on hour...6 |
| 06:42.08 | stew | Despy: what is the problem you are having? |
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| 06:42.48 | Despy | it's f'ed. :) rebooting gives me a kernel panic, auto not found, and I am stuck midway through a dist-upgrade |
| 06:42.57 | Despy | lots of unmet deps |
| 06:43.01 | stew | Despy: you are trying to upgrade to unstable? |
| 06:43.06 | Despy | no |
| 06:43.14 | stew | Despy: but you have some unstable pacakges installed? |
| 06:43.43 | Despy | it's possible, I'm not the only person who uses this machine, but notthat I know of |
| 06:43.51 | MrNaz | ssm how do i find that? |
| 06:43.59 | stew | Despy: run "apt-get -f install" and paste the output to a pastebin |
| 06:44.07 | ssm | stew: good idea |
| 06:44.25 | Despy | done that.. output is huge and I'm not on that machine, short story, it doesn't do anything |
| 06:44.39 | stew | Despy: what pacakge are you having trouble with? |
| 06:44.43 | Despy | kdelibs |
| 06:44.55 | Despy | and modprobe.utils not found either |
| 06:44.59 | Dewi | kdelibs have nothing to do with a kernel panic on boot |
| 06:45.02 | stew | Despy: what does "apt-cache policy kdelibs" say for Installed: and Candidate? |
| 06:45.10 | Despy | one sec... |
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| 06:45.37 | stew | Despy: modprobe.utils isnt' a debian pacakge |
| 06:45.40 | rohan | hi all |
| 06:45.52 | rohan | what is the time when new packages are uploaded to sid ? |
| 06:46.02 | ssm | MrNaz: dpkg -l | grep kernel should give you a short list |
| 06:46.09 | Dewi | rohan: is this some kind of riddle? |
| 06:46.17 | rohan | Dewi: |
| 06:46.18 | rohan | no |
| 06:46.21 | Despy | stew, installed:none, and candidate 4:3.5.1-2 |
| 06:46.21 | _pp[hamas] | i liek that this channel is tolerant to bigotry and trollery |
| 06:46.25 | Dewi | rohan: could it be anytime? |
| 06:46.31 | rohan | no, Dewi |
| 06:46.40 | rohan | i read somewhere that packages are uploaded to sid at a specific time |
| 06:46.42 | ssm | _pp[hamas]: or at least ignores it |
| 06:46.55 | jm_ | !katie |
| 06:46.55 | dpkg | i guess katie is who I seek to emulate, or the daemon in the Debian archive system that processes new packages and inserts them into the archive. It runs at 1952 UTC daily. the women.kde.org mascot, or 166.82.1.7 |
| 06:46.56 | stew | Despy: what happens when you run "apt-get install kdelibs"? |
| 06:46.58 | ssm | rohan: from where? |
| 06:47.12 | Despy | other dependency errors |
| 06:47.24 | rohan | ssm: from where are packages usually uploaded to debian archive ? |
| 06:47.26 | MrNaz | ssm i have kernel-image-2 2.6.8-16sarge1 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on 386. so is the one i mentioned a better choice? |
| 06:47.26 | stew | Despy: ... what errors? |
| 06:47.35 | MrNaz | ssm : kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp |
| 06:47.37 | stew | MrNaz: yes |
| 06:47.43 | rohan | because, during the whole day, apt-get update in sid wont update anything |
| 06:47.49 | rohan | its only at a specific time |
| 06:47.59 | rohan | when its night here in india |
| 06:47.59 | Despy | stew, any chance you can ssh in? |
| 06:48.07 | rohan | so i can get a cron job or something at that time to upgrade my system |
| 06:48.11 | stew | Despy: huh? |
| 06:48.33 | Despy | you can see the error for yourself, it's not where I am, I keep havin to write everything down |
| 06:48.39 | ssm | MrNaz: kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp looks like a good choice, if you've got a dual opteron box |
| 06:49.04 | MrNaz | stew / ssm and i can assume that the amd64 kernal is as stable as i expect debian stable stuff to be |
| 06:49.05 | stew | Despy: i'm not going to log into your box, just paste the errors to a pastebin |
| 06:49.10 | ssm | MrNaz: if you install kernel-image-2.6-686-smp, you'll get kernel upgrades later |
| 06:49.17 | Despy | stew, how do I do that? |
| 06:49.43 | ssm | MrNaz: err, wrong version, sorry |
| 06:49.44 | stew | Despy: paste it into http://channels.debian.net/paste and give us the url |
| 06:49.53 | ssm | MrNaz: that was the 686 version |
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| 06:50.11 | Despy | stew, how do I a) get that machine to a channel, and b) paste the screen? |
| 06:50.22 | Despy | er, not channel, website |
| 06:50.24 | shamanBR | hello! |
| 06:50.44 | MrNaz | ssm how do i find out which kernel is currently running? |
| 06:50.52 | shamanBR | uname -r |
| 06:50.53 | ssm | uname -r |
| 06:50.56 | Despy | stew, all I have is a prompt, no gui |
| 06:50.58 | MrNaz | ive just apt-gotten the new kernel, but cpuinfo still shows one cpu |
| 06:51.10 | stew | Despy: use a text browser and screen to paste |
| 06:51.14 | stew | Despy: or you ahve to type |
| 06:51.19 | MrNaz | ssm ok the old kernel is still in use... i assum i have to reboot to change? |
| 06:51.26 | Despy | eew :) what's a text browser I can use? |
| 06:51.27 | ssm | MrNaz: after installing a kernel, you need to reboot, yes. |
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| 06:51.31 | stew | Despy: do you really expect that we could help you fix things if you can't tell us the errors you are getting? |
| 06:51.37 | Despy | stew, nope |
| 06:51.38 | ssm | Despy: w3m is usable |
| 06:51.53 | Despy | ssm, tnx, I'll see what I can do |
| 06:52.42 | Phated | elinks! |
| 06:52.44 | shamanBR | firestarter is enough? |
| 06:52.47 | Sonny | hi |
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| 06:53.29 | shamanBR | whats best firewall? |
| 06:53.37 | ssm | shamanBR: depends on what you need |
| 06:53.47 | deadcat | Phated: have you seen the xgl demo? (= |
| 06:53.49 | ssm | shamanBR: and your level of experience with networking and firewalls |
| 06:54.04 | sobersabre | hi, i have a q. about native ntfs driver. where can i read about why it is complicated to _write_ onto an ntfs partition ? |
| 06:54.05 | shamanBR | shure ssm =) |
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| 06:54.22 | Sonny | can yo tell me why am I receivng this message in the terminal? gaf1 kernel: CPU1: Temperature above threshold --- gaf1 kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode |
| 06:54.35 | ssm | shamanBR: what kind of firewall are you looking for? |
| 06:54.35 | shamanBR | oka... need to read some ip tables rules... |
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| 06:54.46 | sobersabre | Sonny you are overheat. |
| 06:54.57 | sobersabre | where do you live ? which CPUs ? |
| 06:55.00 | jm_ | sobersabre: go here for info http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ |
| 06:55.35 | sobersabre | jm_ many many thanks... i googled, but either lkml or paragon data came out. |
| 06:55.51 | Sonny | sobersabre, How can I solve it? who tells if my cpu is overheat? who decides? How do I know if its deciding well? |
| 06:55.52 | shamanBR | whi i have a lot of microsoft-ds buggin me? |
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| 06:56.14 | MrNaz | woot both cpus are showing up |
| 06:56.31 | MrNaz | and im using the amd64 smp kernel |
| 06:56.33 | MrNaz | thanks guys :) |
| 06:56.50 | elnovato | congo rats |
| 06:57.07 | MrNaz | hehe |
| 06:57.46 | Dewi | does anyone know how to access SMART information for a |
| 06:57.50 | Dewi | SATA hard disk? |
| 06:58.12 | jm_ | 2.6.15 has support for that, but it appears flaky, at least for me |
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| 06:59.19 | Dewi | jm_: oh well, I *might* get out of that kernel patching then |
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| 07:00.46 | Despy | I have no mouse either, what are the keyboard commands for screencopy, and paste? (please :) ) |
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| 07:01.03 | jm_ | as in copy and paste in screen? info screen and read |
| 07:01.38 | Despy | jm, as in, I want to be able to paste what's on my terminal screen right now, how do I capture it? |
| 07:01.47 | ssm | Despy: copy and paste from within "screen" is your best bet, I think |
| 07:02.01 | jm_ | Despy: XFree86 supports keyboard mosue emulation |
| 07:02.02 | ssm | Despy: don't know if you can do it on the console |
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| 07:02.14 | Despy | ssm, all I have is the console |
| 07:02.18 | Despy | no gui |
| 07:02.29 | jm_ | ahh use gpm for that or screen |
| 07:02.33 | Dewi | hmm. When I try to mark upgrades in etch right now in aptitude, the bottom two lines of the screen go like: |
| 07:02.36 | Dewi | [1(1)/...] Suggest 1 install,2 keeps |
| 07:02.39 | Dewi | e: Examine !: Apply .: Next ,: Previous |
| 07:02.54 | Dewi | and yet it doesn't seem to be waiting for input |
| 07:03.29 | stew | Despy: or dump the output to a file, go to channels.debian.net/paste in w3m and when you hit enter on the text box, it puts you into an editor, insert the contents of the file into the editor, save, submit |
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| 07:05.13 | stew | Despy: while you are at it, you might as well include your sources.list |
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| 07:07.56 | TurboBee | is it possible to add a user to more than one group? |
| 07:08.01 | jm_ | of course |
| 07:08.02 | sp0rk | yes |
| 07:08.10 | Stevie | scheisse. |
| 07:08.11 | stew | TurboBee: adduser user newgroup |
| 07:08.19 | Stevie | scheisse scheisse scheisse |
| 07:08.19 | TurboBee | i see, how about existing users? |
| 07:08.23 | ssm | Stevie: ? |
| 07:08.30 | jm_ | that is for existing users ... |
| 07:08.34 | stew | TurboBee: yes, what i just said is for existing usres |
| 07:08.38 | TurboBee | oops |
| 07:08.38 | Stevie | this laptop has no cdrom drive and no floppy drive |
| 07:08.41 | TurboBee | thanks :) |
| 07:08.44 | Stevie | how the hell did I bootstrap this thing in the first place |
| 07:08.57 | ssm | Stevie: bootable usb stick? |
| 07:09.13 | ke6isf | !rube goldberg |
| 07:09.13 | dpkg | well, rube goldberg is a cartoonist who created crazy complicated contraptions for performing various mundane tasks; see http://www.rube-goldberg.com/html/gallery.htm |
| 07:09.16 | LinuxNIT | hey guys what program would you reccomend running in debian if i need to sync a palm with debian but i also have to sync it with windows xp |
| 07:09.27 | ke6isf | LinuxNIT: jpilot. |
| 07:09.47 | Stevie | ssm: I have a bad feeling that this notebook's BIOS can't do that. |
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| 07:10.08 | LinuxNIT | k thanks and what about for the "outlook" type part on debian ? |
| 07:10.22 | ke6isf | LinuxNIT: "outlook" type part?... |
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| 07:10.38 | TurboBee | beh crap, after examing my groupfile, I'm already in the group i want to be. I'm trying to get cdda2wav to extract files and it wont work on either root or normal user, |
| 07:10.46 | LinuxNIT | to view the contacts and stuff in debian |
| 07:11.01 | ssm | LinuxNIT: many, many choices for that |
| 07:11.06 | Stevie | it's a thinkpad 240 |
| 07:11.11 | LinuxNIT | in windows you use MS outlook what do you reccomend in debain |
| 07:11.13 | jm_ | you have to logout and login again for group changes to take effect, or use newgrp/sg |
| 07:11.23 | ke6isf | LinuxNIT: You're talking to maintain the data on the handheld? |
| 07:11.25 | TurboBee | i didnt have to add myself |
| 07:11.30 | TurboBee | i was already there |
| 07:12.01 | jm_ | well if it doesn't work for root, then the issue is not with that |
| 07:12.08 | LinuxNIT | im talking the MS outlook equivelant for debian |
| 07:12.17 | ke6isf | LinuxNIT: Oh. Evolution, last I checked. |
| 07:12.22 | LinuxNIT | k thanks |
| 07:12.24 | TurboBee | i know im lost :) |
| 07:12.32 | TurboBee | googling atm but not finding any goodies |
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| 07:15.03 | Despy | trying to send my output to a file, apt-get -f install >text.txt it gives all output, *except* the errors at the end, they go to the screen instead, can I get those in the file too? |
| 07:15.25 | Despy | btw, no w3m here.. but found lynx |
| 07:15.35 | stew | Despy: apt-get -f install 2>&1 >text.txt |
| 07:15.57 | Despy | tnx |
| 07:15.57 | tyranix | If anyone wants a faster apt-file: http://pastebin.ca/41919 My searches went from ~14 seconds to 4 (at the cost of using extended POSIX regex instead of Perl). If you do a normal search, this won't make a difference anyway. |
| 07:16.06 | jm_ | Despy: >text 2>&1 |
| 07:16.18 | TurboBee | ok found it is a permission issue, root can use cdda2wav and normal can't, any clue how to give access to normal users? |
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| 07:17.29 | jm_ | tyranix: will you send this to developers? |
| 07:18.00 | tyranix | jm_: Already did. But the bug I responded to was from 2004. :) So I'm letting people know about it in case it doesn't get merged any time soon. |
| 07:18.25 | jm_ | TurboBee: so use the logical approach |
| 07:19.38 | Stevie | okay, where can I find a boot floppy image |
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| 07:20.12 | stew | Stevie: /msg dpkg sarge floppies |
| 07:20.32 | Stevie | ty |
| 07:20.44 | Stevie | i need four floppies? |
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| 07:22.40 | kablam | hello guys |
| 07:23.07 | dwnep | do you backup the home partition with just tar? is there a more convenient way? are there any pitfalls? |
| 07:23.23 | dwnep | my system is totally dead and I'm trying to restore it |
| 07:23.26 | TurboBee | COOL ^_^ |
| 07:23.29 | TurboBee | i learned something new |
| 07:23.30 | sep | dwnep, tar isn't convinient ??? |
| 07:23.43 | dwnep | sep, I don't know, is there a problem with permissions afterwards ? |
| 07:25.01 | sep | dwnep, not if you read man tar before tarring |
| 07:25.37 | dwnep | ooo kay. |
| 07:25.52 | kablam | guys i have a question im hopeing this is the right place to ask it if not sorry. im a debian noob trying to make my no-ip.com client start automaticly when i start my debian box nad from the read me file if found a .sh file that should do the job but where to place it? |
| 07:26.31 | kablam | is this the right place? /etc/init.d |
| 07:27.24 | jm_ | kablam: it would probably be simpler to call it as "up" script - man interfaces |
| 07:28.03 | kablam | ok .. as i said im a noob so how do i do that is there any good info on this somewhere? |
| 07:28.26 | jm_ | read the man page, look at the examples in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown |
| 07:28.42 | kablam | ok thx=) |
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| 07:30.04 | stew | kablam: "man interfaces" look for "post-up" |
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| 07:31.45 | Despy | ok, couldn't find a way to paste, it still came up on screen, instead of to the file, so I opened a second terminal and typed it all in, the paste is at http://channels.debian.net/paste/1857 |
| 07:32.06 | kablam | thx stew |
| 07:35.29 | Despy | stew, any thoughts on that paste? |
| 07:35.38 | Despy | err, "paste" :) |
| 07:36.24 | streuner_ | Is there a app. which reply auto to a mail? |
| 07:37.11 | jm_ | streuner_: you can use procmail, examples are in man procmailex -- or use procmail-lib with some premade solutions |
| 07:37.12 | Golito | Despy, dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.1-2_all.deb (??) |
| 07:37.17 | stew | Despy: seems like openoffice-de-en is causing your problems. this isn't a debian pacakge |
| 07:37.28 | Despy | how do I get rid of it? |
| 07:37.32 | Golito | then apt-get -f install |
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| 07:38.01 | Despy | apt-get remove openoggice-de-en? |
| 07:38.08 | streuner_ | jm_: great |
| 07:38.26 | Stevie | okay, screw this |
| 07:38.31 | Stevie | i'll fix this tomorrow |
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| 07:39.07 | elbixio | why when i umount my flash usb stick the led doesn't turn off like in windoz? am i missing some parameter in the umount command? |
| 07:39.13 | stew | Despy: "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/openoffice/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get remove" <- this will remove all of your openoffice packages. later you can install debian openoffice pacakges |
| 07:39.26 | jm_ | elbixio: no, but try ejecting it |
| 07:40.03 | elbixio | jm_, i tried "eject /dev/sda" but it's still on :) |
| 07:41.01 | stew | Despy: is this pure debian? or was this originally knoppix or something? |
| 07:41.07 | elnovato | offtopic: why decent webcam program? you know to have video conference ? |
| 07:41.22 | elnovato | correction offtopic: any decent webcam program? you know to have video conference ? |
| 07:41.31 | Golito | elnovato, amsn |
| 07:41.40 | elnovato | oh thanks , Golito |
| 07:41.41 | Despy | originally knoppix |
| 07:41.57 | jm_ | elbixio: maybe eject -s, I know it works for me with my USB flash drive that has LED lit when inserted (the other one doesn't) |
| 07:41.58 | LinuxNIT | hey guys im using a linksys wpc54g wifi card with ndiswrapper. it seems to work great except at school due the the fact that they named their routers with essid of ANY. i have a hard time assciating with it. any idea how to fix this? |
| 07:42.31 | stew | Despy: that explains a lot. you really should be looking for help in #knoppix if you are running knoppix |
| 07:42.43 | elnovato | Despy: you could already installed a clean debian sarge during this hours :P |
| 07:42.58 | Despy | eln, 'cept I would like the data I have already |
| 07:43.37 | elnovato | Despy: burn 1 dvd maybe |
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| 07:44.28 | Despy | not really an option eln, thanks |
| 07:45.20 | ootput | goal! |
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| 07:52.03 | frek | elow |
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| 07:53.46 | kablam | ok guys another noob question... hope i dont piss you off havent been usin linux for a whlie isnt there a comman call proc that u can see all running processe? |
| 07:53.56 | llama32 | where's a good place to talk about runtime/compiler/language design? |
| 07:54.11 | jm_ | kablam: the command is called ps |
| 07:54.28 | kablam | oh yeah thx=) |
| 07:54.39 | kablam | knew it when u said it... |
| 07:54.58 | SlayerXP | kablam: you urgently need to replace your keyboard. you appear to have an AOL-branded one |
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| 07:55.34 | kablam | nope i have a swedish one |
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| 07:55.59 | bliss | heloo all |
| 07:56.00 | Stevie | 250 Stevie |
| 07:56.15 | kablam | but i gusee its the same shit diffrent name ;) |
| 07:56.29 | SlayerXP | guess, it's, different |
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| 07:57.22 | frek | asl pls |
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| 07:58.29 | Golito | frek, 17 shemale lala-land, and you ? :P |
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| 07:59.08 | bliss | net some help with ssh conection can connect fron localhost to my box but not from outside here is what netstat says localhost:ssh localhost:32821 ESTABLISHED |
| 07:59.08 | bliss | tcp 0 0 localhost:32821 localhost:ssh ESTABLISHED |
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| 07:59.53 | bliss | does this mean I must point port 22 to 32821 |
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| 08:00.36 | elnovato | omg 4am again |
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| 08:01.40 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:01.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 08:02.26 | dondelelcaro | if it's 12:02 somewhere, it's 4:02 somewhere else. |
| 08:02.43 | elnovato | i need to return to my crypt soon, or the sun ... |
| 08:02.43 | nsacc | ciao |
| 08:03.04 | bliss | 8.02 here |
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| 08:03.42 | bliss | nsacc ciao va bene |
| 08:04.16 | ibrahim | hi, i am my processor is EM64T |
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| 08:04.30 | ibrahim | which vesion of debian i will download |
| 08:04.45 | jm_ | ibrahim: ask local future teller |
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| 08:05.40 | ravi_ | I accidentally deleted a panel, how to reset it? |
| 08:05.46 | ibrahim | jm: sorry don't understand |
| 08:05.48 | ravi_ | in GNOME |
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| 08:06.08 | ravi_ | I deleted a panel in GNOME, how to reset it? |
| 08:06.25 | elnovato | ravi_: #gnome guys prolly will know it |
| 08:06.58 | ravi_ | elnovato: asked no response, thought there will be many aware guys here |
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| 08:07.38 | ravi_ | Any idea, how can it be reset? |
| 08:07.39 | elnovato | ravi_: i think cant be reseted, never seen a feature like "restore menus" or sth |
| 08:07.40 | EruditeHermit | hey, what fstab options do you need to compile stuff on a mounted drive? |
| 08:07.49 | ravi_ | elnovato: me too :( |
| 08:07.51 | EruditeHermit | I keep getting /bin/sh permission errors |
| 08:08.42 | ravi_ | elnovato: some dotfile needs to be deleted and restarting the gnome would bring the original back, I think |
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| 08:08.42 | nomopofomo | is it possible to figure out what version of gcc was used to compile a certain program? |
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| 08:09.49 | ibrahim | what version (port) of debian i need to use for my EM64T |
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| 08:11.20 | stew | !emt64 |
| 08:11.20 | dpkg | well, em64t is Intel's clone of AMD Athlon64/Opteron architecture - provides 64-bit extensions to i386 architecture. Use AMD64 Debian (/msg dpkg amd64), or Sarge with a -em64t-p4 kernel. Found only on Nocona and Irwindale Xeons, or the latest Extreme Edition Pentiums |
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| 08:13.17 | ibrahim | i tried the IA64, is this ok? |
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| 08:13.35 | ibrahim | what does the IA64 means? |
| 08:15.02 | jm_ | no, it's not OK |
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| 08:16.20 | streuner_ | dpkg, ia64 |
| 08:16.20 | dpkg | methinks ia64 is the new Intel Architecture, "Itanium", which seems pretty cool. or ages behind rs64-II , see also http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/. |
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| 08:21.56 | TurboBee | what command installs a debian fdile |
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| 08:22.12 | TurboBee | .deb |
| 08:22.23 | Stevie | use dpkg -i file.deb |
| 08:22.41 | TurboBee | gthanks |
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| 08:25.06 | TurboBee | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 284 not upgraded. |
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| 08:25.12 | TurboBee | how do i upgrade the rest of my packages? |
| 08:25.18 | TurboBee | * doesnt work any more :p |
| 08:25.23 | RichiH | apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 08:25.37 | TurboBee | SWEET |
| 08:25.38 | TurboBee | thanks |
| 08:26.02 | RichiH | you should make sure there is nothing in there which is likely to break your system, though |
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| 08:26.20 | TurboBee | too late :-x |
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| 08:26.27 | RichiH | hmmk |
| 08:26.29 | TurboBee | not realy |
| 08:26.35 | TurboBee | but I'm willing to break it |
| 08:26.35 | TurboBee | :) |
| 08:26.56 | lilyt | hello ihave sarge3.1, the problem that i have is about nvidia and xen. |
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| 08:27.21 | Guerin | lilyt: nvidia isn't supportable in here |
| 08:27.38 | Guerin | lilyt: ask nvidia corporation for support, or use the 'nv' driver |
| 08:28.08 | lilyt | can i create an init or edit one or pass an option to grub or kernel. |
| 08:28.25 | lilyt | to load only for xen the vesa module |
| 08:28.31 | lilyt | ? |
| 08:28.41 | lilyt | i know where iam |
| 08:29.03 | jm_ | you can use modules-foo file to load modules for particular kernel |
| 08:29.19 | jm_ | that is, modules-$KVER etc, see init script |
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| 08:30.03 | lilyt | and about the xconfig file ihave a default |
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| 08:32.45 | lilyt | how can i load a diffrent one can i pass a second driver to the conf??? for loading the X |
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| 08:34.13 | jm_ | for XFree86 you can easily specify alternate one, man XF86Config-4 or use the layout option to achieve the same |
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| 08:35.12 | greyson | Where are core files dumped by default in Debian? |
| 08:35.31 | tyranix | TurboBee: Did you already install apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges? It can help you not break your system and/or see important news on upgrades. |
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| 08:35.45 | TurboBee | hm |
| 08:35.48 | TurboBee | not sure |
| 08:35.50 | TurboBee | maybe i will |
| 08:36.01 | bkankur | hello friends.....i want to install squidclam now how i can find the name of the package. can anyone help me pls |
| 08:36.05 | lilyt | thanks jm_ i try it and i post the results |
| 08:36.13 | Guerin | bkankur: /msg dpkg search |
| 08:36.24 | Guerin | greyson: cwd |
| 08:36.25 | TurboBee | how does it help me? |
| 08:36.39 | bkankur | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:37.00 | Eclipser | greyson, you need non zero ulimit though |
| 08:37.10 | greyson | Guerin: Um... then I guess the next question is... what compile options make a program dump core? |
| 08:37.11 | tyranix | TurboBee: It lists open grave bugs and the changelog (or just important news if you want) before installing packages. |
| 08:37.24 | TurboBee | cool |
| 08:37.26 | TurboBee | tx |
| 08:37.27 | Guerin | greyson: not sure on that one |
| 08:37.42 | Eclipser | greyson, try `ulimit unlimited` and then crash the program |
| 08:37.53 | bkankur | Guerin: " /msg dpkg search" where i should write this |
| 08:38.15 | Guerin | bkankur: no leading space, no quotes, in your irc client |
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| 08:39.54 | greyson | Eclipser: No beans... |
| 08:40.14 | Eclipser | hum hum |
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| 08:40.37 | greyson | Eclipser: Second option... how do I tell gdb to stop paying attention to the signals I'm getting? |
| 08:40.55 | Eclipser | absolutely no idea :) |
| 08:40.57 | greyson | I have SIG_IGN set for SIGPIPE, but gdb likes to deal with it anyway. |
| 08:41.18 | Eclipser | greyson, try ulimit -c unlimited actually :o |
| 08:41.38 | Eclipser | stupid ulimit manpages are the wrong ones >.<; |
| 08:42.04 | greyson | Ahah!!! that did it (I love that "core dumped" at the end :) ) |
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| 08:42.20 | Eclipser | debian defaults to 0 core size so it doesn't dump :/ |
| 08:42.29 | greyson | Eclipser: Thank you much. |
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| 08:42.42 | greyson | Eclipser: Good for users, bad for developers. |
| 08:42.46 | Eclipser | yeah |
| 08:42.58 | greyson | Do you know if tcsh has some equivalent? |
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| 08:43.14 | greyson | (Took me a while to figure out I had to be in bash) |
| 08:43.15 | Eclipser | I've never used tcsh |
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| 08:43.26 | greyson | Cool, no problem. |
| 08:43.35 | greyson | Anyway, thanks again. Cheers all! |
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| 08:46.49 | pmmolina | hola |
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| 08:47.00 | painfantes | Hola, Carmen |
| 08:47.09 | pmmolina | parecae que lo hemos conseguido |
| 08:47.22 | liable | english here please |
| 08:47.25 | pmmolina | somos unos monstruos |
| 08:47.35 | buu | Ok, how do I get a /dev/loop ? |
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| 08:47.53 | nomopofomo | in terminal wine is giving me 4 "err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!" errors and also saying "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly." anyone know what that's about? how would i go about setting $DISPLAY correctly, and what does it do? |
| 08:47.53 | Sonny | can yo tell me why am I receivng this message in the terminal? gaf1 kernel: CPU1: Temperature above threshold --- gaf1 kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode |
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| 08:48.33 | liable | Sonny: not self explanitry enough? |
| 08:48.51 | liable | Sonny: try another kernel or clean your box/check heatsink etc.. |
| 08:48.54 | nomopofomo | it means you're overheating :) |
| 08:49.06 | Guerin | Sonny: your cpu is running too hot. get a better hsf or re-grease it |
| 08:49.14 | Sonny | liable: what is the box/check heatsink? |
| 08:49.36 | nomopofomo | www.boxcheckheatsink.com |
| 08:49.52 | liable | Sonny: clean inside your computer (dust and shit) check the cpu fan/heatsink.. |
| 08:50.07 | buu | liable: Loopback! |
| 08:50.24 | liable | buu: backflip! |
| 08:50.28 | Sonny | liable: how do I know if my linux is telling the truth about the temperature? |
| 08:50.35 | buu | liable: How do I get me a /dev/loop ? |
| 08:50.42 | buu | Sonny: Rip the heatsink off and lick the cpu |
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| 08:50.51 | buu | If you still have a tongue, it was lying |
| 08:50.51 | Guerin | !buu++ |
| 08:50.59 | beardy | indeed |
| 08:51.03 | liable | haha |
| 08:51.12 | jm_ | alternatively, boot into BIOS and check it there, but it has to be done as fast as possible |
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| 08:51.31 | beardy | jm_: How do I know if my BIOS is telling the truth? |
| 08:51.32 | jm_ | which doesn't mean you should perform unclean shutdown |
| 08:51.44 | jm_ | beardy: well you either trust it or not |
| 08:51.45 | buu | beardy: You're in the matrix! |
| 08:51.47 | buu | Ahhh! |
| 08:51.55 | Sonny | lol |
| 08:51.56 | Guerin | beardy: at some point you just have to give over to a higher authority |
| 08:52.00 | Sonny | you are funny |
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| 08:52.13 | Guerin | Sonny: there is a way to tell, though. |
| 08:52.29 | Sonny | Guerin; what do you mean? |
| 08:52.42 | Guerin | Sonny: when your kernel starts throwing those warnings, start doing something to load the cpu up, like build openoffice.org |
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| 08:53.12 | Guerin | if it doesn't lock up hard and/or start smoking and/or beeping, it was lying |
| 08:53.29 | hit | who knows how to embed tomcat5.5 in apache2 as a JSP container?? |
| 08:53.30 | Guerin | caution: may cause permanent damage |
| 08:53.35 | beardy | Sonny: You could also use another thermometer, with a wire and sensor, and put that to the heatsink. (if the thermometer can take it) |
| 08:53.39 | Guerin | hit: the people in #tomcat |
| 08:53.47 | Sonny | lol |
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| 08:53.52 | buu | Hrmph. |
| 08:54.02 | buu | Why on earth does my box not have a loop back device? |
| 08:54.19 | Guerin | beardy: didn't build it into the kernel? |
| 08:54.23 | Sonny | My GKrellm tell me that I'm over the 80°C , the processor zone |
| 08:54.33 | beardy | buu: How do you know it hasn't? Which kernel? Stock or own? |
| 08:54.38 | Guerin | Sonny: suggest you power the machine off pronto |
| 08:54.39 | hit | ok that is sure to helpful |
| 08:54.43 | lo | ... guys . I'm trying to compile my kernel and I'm running into problems with the qt libs ... it worked fine last week and now all of a sudden I'm getting this Package qt was not found in the pkg-config search path. error... can someone give me a clue? I'm not familiar with pkg-config |
| 08:54.56 | Guerin | lo: don't use xconfig |
| 08:55.01 | Guerin | lo: use menuconfig, ffs |
| 08:55.05 | buu | beardy: Sto.. wait, it's some kind of "third party" debian kernel |
| 08:55.06 | lo | I want xconfig |
| 08:55.09 | lo | I can't get througfh menuconfig |
| 08:55.13 | liable | buu: it has 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts? |
| 08:55.15 | Guerin | lo: yes, you can. |
| 08:55.21 | lo | guer:no, really, I can't do it. |
| 08:55.21 | lo | ;) |
| 08:55.29 | Guerin | lo: qt libs break frequently. |
| 08:55.30 | buu | beardy: And I know it haasn't because ls /dev/loo* returns nothing |
| 08:55.31 | beardy | lo: Fix it so you can then. |
| 08:55.32 | buu | liable: Er, yes |
| 08:55.38 | Guerin | lo: then you have no business building kernels |
| 08:55.41 | Sonny | Guerin, If I dont re-connect in 5 minutes... please call the firemen..... and send them to my place |
| 08:55.47 | Guerin | heh |
| 08:55.51 | lo | beardy: its a brain keyboard problem, I can't use the ncurses interface. |
| 08:55.55 | lo | it takes me hours |
| 08:56.00 | lo | well, in comparison |
| 08:56.00 | jm_ | /proc/devices will list loop if it has support |
| 08:56.06 | Guerin | lo: configuring a kernel *should* take hours |
| 08:56.06 | beardy | lo: ? |
| 08:56.15 | beardy | !be CLI barbie |
| 08:56.15 | dpkg | Tpying is HARD! |
| 08:56.17 | wizzo | Is there a better way to shutdown other than running the shutdown command as root or using a display manager? Is there some hotkey I can use? |
| 08:56.17 | Guerin | if it doesn't, you're not reading the help |
| 08:56.20 | lo | guerin; no, i just need to get in and change 2 options, and recompile it shoudl take 3 mintes. |
| 08:56.20 | lo | ;) |
| 08:56.30 | Guerin | and i you're not reading the help, then you don't know what you're building |
| 08:56.31 | liable | buu: then i guess the kernel ha not got support for it. |
| 08:57.12 | liable | buu: theres lo in interfaces file? |
| 08:57.15 | buu | liable: Well, no, it seems to have support, I just mknodded one and it seems to work |
| 08:57.26 | jm_ | wizzo: it depends on your environment - in X, there are many tools that let you bind actions to keys/key combos, then there's init where you can add a custom key combo too (i.e. ctrl-alt-del -> reboot, ctrl-alt-insert poweroff) |
| 08:57.41 | beardy | wizzo: Ctrl-Alt-Del reboots, turn the power off when it's shutdown and rebooted, but not booted anything yet. Or change the Ctrl-Alt-Del behavior to halt instead. |
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| 08:58.26 | wizzo | Well the reboot hotkey is really useful already, how can I add the Ctrl-Alt-Insert to init? |
| 08:58.53 | beardy | lo: Why should it take longer in menuconfig? You need to be stripped of your X a few months.. |
| 08:59.04 | hit | Guerin: #tomcat seems no body in |
| 08:59.08 | wizzo | I'd use the power button, but for some reason it turns of it straight away, like unplugging it, weird apm I suppose. |
| 08:59.09 | jm_ | man inittab, read about kbrequest |
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| 08:59.20 | Guerin | hit: that's a damn shame. |
| 08:59.21 | lo | beardy: I just dont like using the keyboard to navigate menus, thats all. (you can imagine how I feel about dselect) |
| 08:59.29 | wizzo | Thanks. |
| 08:59.40 | jm_ | wizzo: or maybe you need to use ACPI instead of APM, and both ways, you need apmd/acpid to handle the event |
| 08:59.58 | Guerin | lo: ok. Well, qt libs break pretty routinely.ã…‘if you're dependent on them, you have to learn how to fix them |
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| 09:00.02 | hit | how to point a peole like hit: |
| 09:00.06 | wizzo | jm_: I've tried that, but apm is much better at handling everything else. |
| 09:00.14 | lo | beardy: I should be 'allowed' to use the xconfig qt interface ;) I shouldn't haev to fight for why I want to use it. |
| 09:00.18 | lo | you guys are mean ;) |
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| 09:00.28 | buu | lo: I think it's more of a hobby.. |
| 09:00.32 | Guerin | lo: gconfig is even more unreliable, but it might be an option |
| 09:00.33 | beardy | lo: Use it then, but don't whine about it. |
| 09:00.38 | Guerin | lo: we're not mean, we're realistic |
| 09:00.42 | jm_ | wizzo: such as? |
| 09:00.52 | liable | Guerin: you are so! |
| 09:00.52 | lo | I dont have GTK libs |
| 09:00.56 | hit | shame my pool english |
| 09:00.59 | lo | and I dont really want to spend hours getting them installed |
| 09:01.03 | elnovato | mean? i just live in a crypt, wich reminds me soon the sun.... |
| 09:01.22 | Guerin | lo: you are allowed to use it. yu just have to face the fact that it might not work unless you run stable |
| 09:01.26 | lo | it would be faster to download a suse DVD image and install that. |
| 09:01.29 | wizzo | jm_: When I close the lid it will turn off the screen completely automatically. |
| 09:01.34 | lo | guer: i'm running stable. |
| 09:01.37 | lo | cocksucker |
| 09:01.38 | lo | ;) |
| 09:01.44 | Guerin | lo: ... |
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| 09:01.46 | wizzo | jm_: ACPI won't turn off the backlight and does a horrible job detecting it. |
| 09:01.47 | beardy | .. |
| 09:01.48 | tarzeau | what happened to http://www.debian.gr.jp/~kitame/ ? |
| 09:01.53 | jm_ | wizzo: ahh, probably related to crap ACPI implementation, there's a good document about that in Gentoo Wiki |
| 09:01.55 | hit | who knows how to embed tomcat5.5 in apache2 as a JSP container?? |
| 09:01.55 | buu | tarzeau: Typhoon! |
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| 09:02.02 | Guerin | lo: if you're running stable and the lib isn't present, then you've broken something, not debian. |
| 09:02.03 | liable | lo: erm, that certainly doesnt help your situation.. |
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| 09:02.27 | lo | guerin: I'm just asking for an idea of where to look. I'm not sure what I could have done to break it. |
| 09:02.29 | phobo | what's a simple package that i can run on an ethernet interface to log "totals per hour" for "destination ports/ips" pairs? (i have a router with 3 IP addresses) |
| 09:02.30 | Guerin | lo: anyway, i don't care what you have against people who suck cocks, so leave it out |
| 09:02.32 | tarzeau | buu: are you kidding or is that true? |
| 09:02.39 | wizzo | jm_: Yeah well, I'll look into it. My gentoo installation actually implimented ACPI perfectly. By I far prefer Debian and stable. |
| 09:02.49 | wizzo | I think I'll try set up that hotkey. |
| 09:02.50 | phobo | (am already running iptables if that makes a diff) |
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| 09:03.46 | liable | lo: find the verbose debian kernel compile guide on os news, tells you the shits you need for xconfig (though a little outdated..) |
| 09:04.34 | hit | list |
| 09:04.37 | Guerin | it's libqt-something-dev |
| 09:05.00 | beardy | phobo: Have a look at iftop, tcptrack, netwatch, bwm |
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| 09:05.20 | Ad4m | pls, I need help, howto enabled routing 10.152.55.0 - eth1 - eth0 - 10.152.21.0, ping from 10.152.55.1 on 10.152.21.1 is ok. |
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| 09:06.30 | phobo | beardy: have iftop already to look at stuff happening as I speak, but does it do logging? |
| 09:06.37 | wizzo | In inittab it says kb::kbrequest:/bin/echo "Foo" for the kbrequest which runs on Alt-Up, where does it specify what keys need to be pressed? |
| 09:07.06 | beardy | phobo: I don't think it does. ntop? |
| 09:07.11 | buu | Ad4m: man route? |
| 09:08.10 | lo | thanks liable, I'll look for that next week :/ night. |
| 09:08.10 | Ad4m | ./sbin/iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE - is too ok, but I don´t want NAT |
| 09:08.21 | hit | how to specify a person to hint him i am speaking with him? |
| 09:08.25 | Guerin | Ad4m: so leave it out |
| 09:08.29 | Guerin | Ad4m: #iptables |
| 09:08.43 | Guerin | hit: ? |
| 09:08.50 | beardy | hit: Where? here? |
| 09:08.50 | hit | yes |
| 09:08.59 | hit | just like you talk to me |
| 09:09.04 | beardy | !tab-abuse |
| 09:09.04 | dpkg | it has been said that tab-abuse is Use tab completion when addressing people in #debian, (write the first characters of a nick, then hit TAB), but be sure to write enough characters of the nick to make it unique (or hit TAB more times to switch between the nicks that matches, to get the right one), and check that you got the correct nick before hitting Enter, otherwise you may tell the wrong people the wrong things. |
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| 09:09.42 | Guerin | hit: just type beardy: at the start of a line |
| 09:09.47 | Guerin | hit: it's not rocket science |
| 09:10.19 | sep | hit, also there is no law preventing you to actualy type the nick :) |
| 09:10.42 | hit | beardy:Guerin ddd |
| 09:10.45 | hit | ?? |
| 09:10.52 | hit | i can not understand you |
| 09:11.10 | hit | ps what is a beardy? |
| 09:11.16 | beardy | hit: Just type my name, followed by a colon, and what you want to say, it can't be that hard to understand? |
| 09:11.26 | beardy | hit: That's me :) |
| 09:11.48 | hit | beardy: hit |
| 09:12.00 | hit | oh no! |
| 09:12.00 | beardy | wow.. |
| 09:12.13 | hit | it works ? |
| 09:12.23 | beardy | hit: you can read, can't you? |
| 09:12.55 | hit | yes ,but i may not express myself |
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| 09:13.38 | litage | say you have a website with a forum, support ticket system, customer accounts, etc. is there an advantage in terms of performance to have the forum, support ticket system, and customer accounts tables all in the same DB, or would it not affect performance if the forum, ticket system, and customer accounts each had its own DB? |
| 09:13.38 | hit | hit: lllll |
| 09:14.01 | Guerin | litage: #dba-anonymous |
| 09:14.12 | litage | =P |
| 09:14.20 | beardy | !cn |
| 09:14.20 | dpkg | rumour has it, cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
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| 09:14.50 | hit | Guerin: can you anwer my question? |
| 09:14.57 | Guerin | hit: what question? |
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| 09:15.09 | XFreeMan | hi, i'm installing grub, it gave error while "make", >>> normal/lexer.c: In function `grub_script_yylex': << |
| 09:15.09 | hit | about tomcat |
| 09:15.19 | Guerin | hit: i know nothing about tomcat hatsoever |
| 09:15.34 | Guerin | XFreeMan: don't build grub, install the debian package |
| 09:15.42 | Guerin | !tell XFreeMan about fundamentals |
| 09:16.15 | wizzo | OK um... where would "your keymaps file" be? |
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| 09:16.32 | Guerin | wizzo: locate keymaps |
| 09:16.32 | XFreeMan | actually i'm installing on Slackware, ;) |
| 09:16.41 | hit | Guerin: then which region you good at ? |
| 09:16.42 | phobo | if I am root how to I tell a command to run as a certain user? like "runasuser smagnusson ls -l" type thing |
| 09:16.43 | Guerin | XFreeMan: so why the fuck are you asking in #debian? |
| 09:16.47 | beardy | XFreeMan: /join #slackaware, what were you thinking? |
| 09:17.13 | wizzo | Guerin: Did that, I now have a list of maybe... 100 keymap files. |
| 09:17.14 | Guerin | hit: mostly I specialise in cussing out idiots who come to #debian instead of going to their distro's proper channel |
| 09:17.21 | Guerin | wizzo: there they are, then! |
| 09:17.37 | wizzo | How do I know which one I'm using? |
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| 09:18.25 | hit | Guerin: so you are a offical clark? |
| 09:18.37 | XFreeMan | i'm already in #slackware, but i thought you'd help too |
| 09:18.46 | beardy | XFreeMan: You thought wrong. |
| 09:18.54 | beardy | XFreeMan: Why should we? |
| 09:19.21 | beardy | XFreeMan: This isn't #worldofdistros |
| 09:19.54 | wizzo | Seems he was just aking, nice job being an ass. |
| 09:19.57 | hit | beardy: you work is to anwser questions? |
| 09:20.08 | beardy | hit: My work? |
| 09:20.09 | ootput | what kind of plugins are required for gnomebaker's audiocd creation? |
| 09:20.16 | hit | yes |
| 09:20.18 | EruditeHermit | hey, when I try to run compile scripts, I get /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied |
| 09:20.20 | ootput | it even fails on *.wav |
| 09:20.22 | beardy | !ask |
| 09:20.22 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 09:20.23 | EruditeHermit | can anyone help? |
| 09:20.26 | Guerin | hit: i'm 100% unofficial |
| 09:20.30 | Guerin | in every way |
| 09:20.35 | phobo | all those bitching about distros... :P if I am root how to I tell a command to run as a certain user? like "runasuser smagnusson ls -l" type thing |
| 09:20.39 | beardy | Take note to the " We're all volunteers" part. |
| 09:20.40 | XFreeMan | thanks for nothing |
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| 09:21.15 | hit | Guerin: so i think you are kind hearted |
| 09:21.26 | Guerin | hit: aww, that'ssweet. |
| 09:21.36 | lappylove | hi all :) |
| 09:21.47 | Guerin | my mate's plane is arriving in -2 minutes, I have to go wait at the damn arrival lounge |
| 09:21.48 | beardy | wizzo: Why didn't you help him then. Consider not calling me names. |
| 09:22.00 | jm_ | phobo: su |
| 09:22.05 | Guerin | l8rz |
| 09:22.50 | lappylove | help :3 |
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| 09:23.05 | hit | Guerin: actually this is my first time to work in debian .i am a student in computer science. |
| 09:23.18 | tyranix | phobo: su -c 'command here' - username |
| 09:23.38 | lappylove | how to see with what rights i am online? ^ |
| 09:24.11 | phobo | jheers |
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| 09:24.21 | wizzo | beardy: I can't answer the question myself, but maybe someone else could have? Are you the spokesperson of everyone in the channel? |
| 09:24.40 | lappylove | cause um i think i am with su online :( dont know am i admin mode or user mode logged in :( |
| 09:24.57 | ft | lappylove: type 'id' |
| 09:25.10 | beardy | !tell wizzo -about they don't know |
| 09:25.46 | lappylove | uid=0(root) gid=0(root) gruppen=0(root) @ ft |
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| 09:26.11 | wizzo | Ok, I see your point. |
| 09:26.23 | ft | lappylove: have you used su in that terminal? |
| 09:26.31 | lappylove | yes ^^ |
| 09:26.35 | lappylove | omg sorry xD |
| 09:26.54 | hit | everyone in #tomcat is sleeping !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:26.59 | ft | lappylove: use another terminal |
| 09:27.09 | ft | hit: your keyboard is broken |
| 09:27.10 | SimonRaven | !tell hit -about ep |
| 09:27.16 | lappylove | noo typing exit do that too ^ |
| 09:27.23 | beardy | hit: Try to be patient, they'll wake up sooner or later. |
| 09:27.27 | ft | lappylove: of course |
| 09:27.28 | lappylove | now i have id there ^^" |
| 09:27.40 | hit | beardy:.............. |
| 09:28.05 | hit | who tell me about ep? |
| 09:28.10 | hit | what is ep? |
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| 09:28.23 | lappylove | uid=1000(nickname) gid=1000(nickname) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),1000(nickname) |
| 09:28.25 | SimonRaven | read what the bot said |
| 09:28.54 | jm_ | maybe he's not getting messages due to not being registered - does that still apply? |
| 09:29.01 | hit | -about ep |
| 09:29.04 | hit | ? |
| 09:29.11 | sep | !ep |
| 09:29.12 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:29.23 | beardy | jm_: I don't think dpkg cares. |
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| 09:29.46 | lappylove | am i as admin or as user logged in? ^" |
| 09:29.55 | jm_ | alternatively, he doesn't know how to use his IRC client |
| 09:29.58 | hit | i break the rule here? |
| 09:30.00 | sep | hit, ep is a factoid in the bot. a small piece of info that someone figured you'd benefit from knowing |
| 09:30.05 | beardy | lappylove: 'whoami' or 'id' |
| 09:30.10 | jm_ | beardy: well ircd does ;P |
| 09:30.35 | kablam | guys i have a question again ;) |
| 09:30.39 | sep | hit, no rule. but with text flowing as fast as in #debian. it's generaly better to use , . ; or similar then to wroite on multiple lines |
| 09:30.45 | lappylove | i am not named beardy i mean as admin its the name i gave with debian install ^^" |
| 09:30.53 | kablam | this script dont seem to work for me |
| 09:30.54 | kablam | #! /bin/sh |
| 09:30.54 | kablam | VENPATH=/home/brunis/ventrilo |
| 09:30.54 | kablam | VENBIN=$VENPATH/ventrilo_srv |
| 09:30.54 | kablam | su ventrilo -c "$VENBIN -f$VENPATH/3784 -d" |
| 09:30.54 | kablam | renice -5 `cat $VENPATH/3784.pid` |
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| 09:30.57 | beardy | wtf? |
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| 09:31.05 | beardy | lappylove: ? |
| 09:31.07 | kablam | oops |
| 09:31.09 | lappylove | the name i give at debian install is that the admin name? |
| 09:31.16 | ft | lappylove: no |
| 09:31.29 | lappylove | phew good o.o then i am not logged in as admin ^^ good |
| 09:31.30 | beardy | lappylove: no (admin name?) |
| 09:31.31 | ft | lappylove: 'root' is the "admin" |
| 09:31.42 | lappylove | okay ^^ |
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| 09:31.53 | beardy | lappylove: /msg dpkg reference |
| 09:32.17 | beardy | !tell lappylove -about fundamentals |
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| 09:32.30 | Netsnipe | hey everyone |
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| 09:33.04 | kablam | guys is /etc/rc.d/rc.local = /etc/rc2.d ? |
| 09:33.13 | Netsnipe | does anyone know how to rebuild /dev from scratch? |
| 09:33.22 | jm_ | Netsnipe: no doubt someone does |
| 09:33.25 | *** part/#debian EruditeHermit (n=Erudite@unaffiliated/eruditehermit) |
| 09:33.26 | SimonRaven | kablam: no |
| 09:33.27 | Netsnipe | I'm in the process of migrating my / to RAID1 |
| 09:33.27 | lappylove | i am ignorant beardy? :( |
| 09:33.38 | jm_ | Netsnipe: using udev? |
| 09:33.43 | Netsnipe | jm_: yes |
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| 09:33.53 | Netsnipe | jm_: been getting the following msgs |
| 09:34.00 | Netsnipe | /sbin/init: 432: cannot create /dev/null: Read-only file system |
| 09:34.00 | Netsnipe | /sbin/init: 433: cannot open dev/console: No such file |
| 09:34.00 | Netsnipe | Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! |
| 09:34.07 | jm_ | Netsnipe: then I have no idea, udev should create the files/links for you |
| 09:34.10 | kablam | simonraven: so where am i supposed to put a script to autostart my ventrilo server? |
| 09:34.11 | Netsnipe | when I try and boot into the arrahy |
| 09:34.14 | beardy | lappylove: No. Just follow the links, take no offense, but not knowing what root is means that you need to read up on some fundamental things. |
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| 09:34.16 | Netsnipe | jm_: that's what I thought |
| 09:34.21 | tyranix | kablam: No, that's BSDish to have rc.local. Probably from Slackware. |
| 09:34.31 | kablam | ok |
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| 09:34.36 | jm_ | Netsnipe: but maybe your initrd is not doing what it should |
| 09:34.38 | jeffrin | hello all |
| 09:34.42 | jeffrin | please help me |
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| 09:34.54 | kablam | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:35.07 | ivalladt | can I put a share name with spaces in between in /etc/fstab? |
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| 09:35.28 | lappylove | i know what root means ^^ i only wasnt knewing about my actually state the debian installer asked for giving a login name i couldnt know is that admin state name or a safe user name ^^ |
| 09:35.30 | jeffrin | has anyone connect a IR USB dongle and used as serial port at /dev/ttyUSB0 |
| 09:35.37 | tyranix | kablam: Post it to http://pastebin.ca. And to start it on boot, you'll want to put it into /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d to add runlevel symlinks. |
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| 09:35.58 | beardy | lappylove: Read. It will do you good. |
| 09:36.01 | jeffrin | jm_ : hello can you help me please... |
| 09:36.41 | kablam | tryed /etc/rc2.d and /etc/init.d/ and i cant seem to get it to work |
| 09:36.49 | jm_ | ivalladt: you have my permission :) |
| 09:36.53 | kablam | tyranix: ok thx |
| 09:37.02 | jm_ | jeffrin: I never dealt with USB serial devices |
| 09:37.26 | ivalladt | jm_: thanks a lot! will it work? ;) |
| 09:37.49 | jm_ | ivalladt: no, there's a way to do it, I am trying to remember |
| 09:37.56 | beardy | lappylove: If you're new to Debian, and even if you're not, The Debian Reference is good and cover many things. |
| 09:37.56 | kablam | tyranix: http://pastebin.ca/41925 |
| 09:38.14 | ivalladt | jm_: quoting doesn't work and escaping with backslashes either |
| 09:38.37 | lappylove | yes okay ^^ hm i think i am low skilled but can handle the most at debian |
| 09:39.40 | jm_ | ivalladt: yeah |
| 09:40.07 | jeffrin | jm_ : do you know how to solve the following error . cat: /dev/ttyUSB0: Input/output error |
| 09:40.07 | MikePer | morning |
| 09:40.13 | tyranix | kablam: Does it work to run once? |
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| 09:40.26 | kablam | havent tried trying the last thin u said right now |
| 09:40.30 | jm_ | jeffrin: no, but did you check dmesg output? |
| 09:40.33 | beardy | !wayttd jeffrin |
| 09:40.33 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, jeffrin? |
| 09:40.55 | jm_ | ivalladt: ahh of course, use \<octalcode> |
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| 09:42.08 | ivalladt | jm_: it worked, thanks a lot! |
| 09:42.50 | Spida | So i know this is a dumb question but which is better for software support Win or Linux? |
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| 09:43.08 | kablam | tyranix: i get this -bash: ./ventrilo: Permission denied |
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| 09:43.26 | kablam | trying to run it once |
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| 09:44.13 | Spida | -bash ./ventrilo |
| 09:44.16 | Spida | -bash |
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| 09:45.19 | jeffrin | dpkg : iam trying to connect to net using my mobile phone using infrared |
| 09:45.20 | tyranix | kablam: Check the permissions then. Is ventrilo_srv just a symlink to ventrilo? Some applications do that and take different actions based on what name you used to call it. |
| 09:46.01 | kablam | ventrilo_srv is the application |
| 09:46.25 | kablam | sorry for being stupid here trying to learn how this works |
| 09:46.28 | tyranix | kablam: Does it work if you type those commands interactively? |
| 09:46.36 | kablam | iill try |
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| 09:47.00 | oskie | is there a debian tool to display info on OGG files? e.g. tags, duration, etc |
| 09:47.17 | jm_ | ogginfo not good enough? |
| 09:47.19 | tyranix | oskie: ogginfo |
| 09:47.59 | beardy | jeffrin: Check dmesg (run 'dmesg') as jm said. Check if the device appears when plugging it in. |
| 09:48.00 | kablam | tyranix: third command gives me : Unknown id: ventrilo |
| 09:48.10 | tyranix | kablam: Did you create a ventrilo user? :) |
| 09:48.31 | kablam | ermmmmm heheh nope damn sorry |
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| 09:48.41 | kablam | ill just use root instead |
| 09:49.15 | tyranix | I wouldn't do that. I assume ventrilo is closed source. It's better to have a less powerful user run it. |
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| 09:49.47 | kablam | ok |
| 09:50.06 | jeffrin | beardy : the device appears when plugged in |
| 09:50.10 | tyranix | just run 'adduser' and it will prompt you for the info. |
| 09:50.51 | jeffrin | beardy : the problem comes only after i use irattach command |
| 09:51.00 | beardy | jeffrin: I'm not sure what you should do next to do what you want, but now you know it's there anyway.. How are you going to connect to your phone, ppp? |
| 09:51.27 | beardy | jeffrin: What does it say, if anything? |
| 09:51.43 | tyranix | well with the username too. :) 'adduser ventrilo'. |
| 09:52.08 | jeffrin | beardy : iam going to connect to phone using USB IR dongle |
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| 09:52.37 | beardy | jeffrin: And the phone is already sharing it's conenction to it's IR port? |
| 09:53.09 | beardy | jeffrin: Anyway, what happens when you run that irattach? |
| 09:53.15 | jeffrin | beardy : irdadump -d shows the phone model no. |
| 09:53.27 | jeffrin | beardy : when i run irattach irda0 is up |
| 09:53.53 | jeffrin | beardy : but cat /dev/ttyUSB0 give error |
| 09:54.02 | jeffrin | beardy : but cat /dev/ttyUSB0 give error after irattach |
| 09:54.22 | lappylove | can i implement yast into debian too? ^^" |
| 09:54.25 | beardy | jeffrin: Why should it do anything useful? |
| 09:54.32 | oskie | tyranix, jm_: thanks |
| 09:54.41 | ft | lappylove: you don't want yast |
| 09:54.44 | kablam | tyranix:_ now i get Unable to open log file '/home/brunis/ventrilo/3784.log' error |
| 09:54.45 | beardy | lappylove: It's already done, partly anyway. (why I don't know) |
| 09:54.55 | kablam | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:55.06 | lappylove | hm okay ^ |
| 09:55.10 | tyranix | kablam: Does that directory exist? Do you have permissions to write there? |
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| 09:55.51 | kablam | it exists but it belongs to the user "brunis" and when i try to run the 3rd line as either brunis or ventrilo i get the same reult |
| 09:55.57 | kablam | *result |
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| 09:56.59 | jeffrin | beardy : actually when i should run cat /dev/ttyUSB0 i think it should show just the cursor without command line |
| 09:57.26 | jeffrin | beardy : it shows link problem |
| 09:57.32 | lappylove | some tools for playing DVD i owned existing? ^^ |
| 09:58.01 | beardy | !tell lappylove -about dvd |
| 09:58.20 | tyranix | kablam: I would change that to /home/ventrilo/ventrilo.log or something like that. You're going to run into file permissions problems trying to write to a home directory of another user (assuming a normal setup). |
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| 09:58.50 | lappylove | i think i need libdvdcss or? |
| 09:59.04 | kablam | yeah ill try that thx for youre help |
| 09:59.20 | beardy | lappylove: ask dpkg about what he tells you to ask him about |
| 09:59.32 | lappylove | okay |
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| 09:59.51 | DataCompBoy | Hi |
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| 10:00.04 | beardy | lappylove: but yes, you'll need that for most discs |
| 10:00.20 | lappylove | okay ^.^ |
| 10:01.05 | lappylove | the bash command doesnt work :( |
| 10:01.30 | beardy | lappylove: What bash command? |
| 10:01.41 | DataCompBoy | People, can someone help? aptitude dist-upgrade broke my box |
| 10:01.51 | beardy | lappylove: libdvdcss is in marillat, /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 10:01.53 | DataCompBoy | sleep -> segmentation fault; ln -> illegal instruction |
| 10:02.08 | lappylove | run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/examples/install-css.sh that sayed dpkg |
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| 10:02.48 | jeffrin | bye |
| 10:02.49 | beardy | lappylove: You don't have that installed, have you? And the question mark probably means version number. |
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| 10:03.09 | rhalff | hi is it possible to setup webdav securelly ? like almost impossible to crack ? or is webdav just not secure enough for this ? |
| 10:03.20 | lappylove | okay |
| 10:03.30 | DataCompBoy | rhalff: put it on HTTPS :) |
| 10:03.38 | beardy | lappylove: Ask dpkg about marillat. |
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| 10:03.44 | rhalff | DataCompBoy, that would be secure enough ? |
| 10:03.49 | lappylove | no chance to use dvd playback with kaffeine? |
| 10:04.02 | lappylove | kaffeine is easy to use playback tool ^^ |
| 10:04.07 | DataCompBoy | of course. password will be not sniffable |
| 10:04.14 | DataCompBoy | but still brute-forceable |
| 10:04.25 | beardy | lappylove: What is it? A frontend for xine IIRC? |
| 10:04.52 | fourcheeze | rhalff: you need to keep up to date with ssl security issues too |
| 10:04.54 | beardy | lappylove: Should work as good as other players capable of playing dvd. |
| 10:04.57 | rhalff | DataCompBoy, so webdav is not a 'dead' sollution ? :) trying to search for an extranet sollution. |
| 10:05.13 | DataCompBoy | of course not :) |
| 10:05.13 | fourcheeze | rhalff: what about webdav over ssh? |
| 10:05.17 | lappylove | beardy: its a mediaplayer this kaffeine ^^ also DVB-T player when you have a card ^^ |
| 10:05.45 | fourcheeze | and use keys for authentication |
| 10:05.49 | rhalff | fourcheeze, ah ok, somebody told me it can be secured enough |
| 10:05.56 | rhalff | cannot |
| 10:06.01 | fourcheeze | whcih - ssh? |
| 10:06.17 | fourcheeze | if ssh cannot be secured enough there is no hope for any of us |
| 10:06.21 | rhalff | :) |
| 10:06.27 | rhalff | ok you're right |
| 10:06.40 | rhalff | so webdav it is then |
| 10:07.06 | fourcheeze | rhalff: I tend to agree with DataCompBoy - webdav with https should be fine |
| 10:07.12 | fourcheeze | just watch your apache and ssl updates |
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| 10:07.31 | DataCompBoy | But, any ideas about libc upgrade? |
| 10:07.35 | rhalff | ok great :) |
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| 10:08.51 | Lars_F | Hi! Are there any texteditor in debian that supports the doc format and https connection for open-edit-save functionality? |
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| 10:09.26 | apfel | after updating debian some programs like xpdf or mathematica have a black background (the menubar, for example) and they start in a very tiny window. what's that? |
| 10:10.04 | rhalff | fourcheeze, DataCompBoy thanks for your input btw. |
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| 10:10.49 | DataCompBoy | Lars_F: emacs |
| 10:10.50 | DataCompBoy | :D |
| 10:11.09 | elnovato | ... aaaghhhh the sun ... |
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| 10:14.04 | lappylove | how to open Konqueror in root mode ? |
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| 10:15.12 | oskie | next q: is there a debian tool to display info on Flac files? e.g. tags, duration, etc |
| 10:15.19 | lappylove | oh got it :) |
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| 10:16.43 | cappiz | someone here using pftp? |
| 10:18.29 | elnovato | nope |
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| 10:20.09 | lappylove | hmm dvd playing works but its not watchable it lags like hell :/ |
| 10:20.16 | lappylove | need to much ressources |
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| 10:25.58 | lappylove | hm but it works i only need a better laptop thx for your help ^.^ |
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| 10:27.46 | elnovato | no problem |
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| 10:38.59 | FlopsyPete | I used to install GNOEM and GNome Office with just the package 'gnome' but now 'apt-cahce search gnome' and 'aptitude install gnome' know of no such package, yet it exists at http://pdo.debian.net/testing/gnome/gnome. whats changed? |
| 10:39.11 | FlopsyPete | GNOME, not GNOEM |
| 10:39.59 | n3x_ | apt-ge tinstall gnome-desktop |
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| 10:41.38 | sgtt | anyone knows an easy way to delete the last lines of a file that are only a carry return? |
| 10:41.44 | FlopsyPete | n3x_: there's no such package. and gnome-desktop-environment doesn't include gnome-office which gnome used to do |
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| 10:43.12 | FlopsyPete | what happened to the 'gnome' package? |
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| 10:44.21 | mwillis | Hey Debian! |
| 10:44.32 | mwillis | I am thinking about moving from Ubuntu to Debian! |
| 10:44.39 | Eclipser | good |
| 10:44.50 | mwillis | What are Debian's strong points? |
| 10:45.07 | azeem | mwillis: just install it and see |
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| 10:45.28 | lilian | oi |
| 10:45.32 | Eclipser | linux distributions aren't really THAT different from eachother |
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| 10:46.06 | FlopsyPete | mwillis: Debians not controlled by a dictator |
| 10:46.09 | icky | hi all..i've got some troubles with my wifi card (Cabletron/RoamAbout 802.11 DS)... I'm using driver as modul included in 2.4.32, Orinoco/Hermes patched against monitor mode. Monitor mode, essid set, channel/etc works fine but when i try for example `#iwconfig eth1 ap 01:23:45:67:89:FF' i get: |
| 10:46.16 | icky | Error for wireless request "Set AP Address" (8B14) : |
| 10:46.16 | icky | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:46.27 | icky | can anyone save my time please? |
| 10:46.34 | keta | Eclipser: that's wrong debian based linux environments are slight different from redhat ones |
| 10:46.44 | lilian | como usa o linux? |
| 10:46.46 | keta | Eclipser: i.e. |
| 10:46.48 | azeem | icky: what do you want to do? |
| 10:46.51 | icky | i don't even know what's the problem..iwconfig package or drivers :-| |
| 10:46.55 | azeem | lilian: this is an english channel |
| 10:46.58 | Eclipser | keta, mainly around the distribution specific utilities |
| 10:46.59 | lilian | help! |
| 10:47.01 | Eclipser | keta, but linux is linux |
| 10:47.12 | azeem | !br |
| 10:47.12 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 10:47.16 | icky | azeem...let's say...set ap address? |
| 10:47.21 | lilian | ok |
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| 10:47.25 | azeem | icky: why? You should set the essid |
| 10:47.31 | mwillis | Is Ubuntu controlled by a dictator? |
| 10:47.41 | icky | sec.. |
| 10:47.42 | azeem | mwillis: I wouldn't go so far |
| 10:48.04 | lilian | em portuguese nao funciona |
| 10:48.11 | azeem | mwillis: but Mark has been known to make ex cathedra decisions some of the developers (also the GNOME devs in general) and a lot of users didn't agree with |
| 10:48.15 | elnovato | como vai voce garotinha |
| 10:48.17 | azeem | lilian: /join #debian-br |
| 10:48.24 | lilian | elnovato? |
| 10:48.26 | mwillis | I see |
| 10:48.28 | keta | Eclipser: linux is just a kernel yeah, but runlevels design also matters for a distribution |
| 10:48.29 | lilian | falou comigo? |
| 10:48.39 | azeem | mwillis: well, only a few |
| 10:48.47 | lilian | não sei como faz |
| 10:48.49 | azeem | mwillis: I wouldn't take that as a major |
| 10:48.51 | azeem | point |
| 10:49.10 | mwillis | I see |
| 10:49.11 | lilian | I need help ....linux!! |
| 10:49.11 | azeem | lilian: Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 10:49.39 | keta | Eclipser: debian's runlevel desing follows System V standard (/etc/init.d), rh (still i.e.) follows BSD stile (/etc/rc.d) |
| 10:49.54 | lilian | nadie aydame... |
| 10:50.02 | lilian | nadie ayudame... |
| 10:50.09 | mwillis | What can we expect from Debian in terms of updates? |
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| 10:50.31 | azeem | mwillis: what kind of updates? |
| 10:50.35 | Eclipser | keta, but it's not hard to adapt from a distribution to another |
| 10:50.43 | azeem | mwillis: security updates for the stable and testing distributions are in palce |
| 10:50.46 | azeem | place |
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| 10:51.42 | wassha | another day another problem :( |
| 10:51.43 | lilian | alguem me ajuda |
| 10:51.48 | lilian | help! |
| 10:51.52 | azeem | lilian: /j #debian-br |
| 10:52.00 | mwillis | Like, major releases |
| 10:52.09 | wassha | i am using Firestarter and cannot solve problem with thunderbird connection to gmail account.. i enable outside connection to 995 (pops) and 465(ssmtp) port, but when i try to get messages from gmail, firestarter shows that thuntherbird wants connect ports 33233 etc. (when i enable that port, it wants another one e.g. 33280) |
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| 10:52.11 | azeem | mwillis: they are less frequent than Ubuntu's |
| 10:52.21 | azeem | mwillis: Debian currently aims for a 18-month release cycle |
| 10:52.22 | mwillis | It was interesting that Ubuntu's are so frequent |
| 10:52.23 | keta | Eclipser: in terms of desktops environment I agree with you |
| 10:52.46 | azeem | mwillis: however, Debian tries to keep its testing distribution installabe and useable at all times |
| 10:52.49 | wassha | so how should i setup firestarter to work correctly with thunderbird gmail account? |
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| 10:53.15 | keta | Eclipser: for what concerns systems administration and use of linux in IT terms I'm not of that opinion |
| 10:53.28 | mwillis | Do you use the packaging system primarily, or build from source? |
| 10:53.38 | azeem | mwillis: "you"? |
| 10:53.46 | mwillis | azeem = you |
| 10:53.47 | mwillis | :) |
| 10:54.03 | keta | mwillis: precompiled official binary debs packages are always preferred |
| 10:54.04 | azeem | mwillis: I use Debian at the university, I am no admin here so I cannot install anything |
| 10:54.17 | azeem | mwillis: most Debian users use the packaging system just like Ubuntu users do |
| 10:54.18 | keta | mwillis: same thing as ubuntu |
| 10:54.48 | Eclipser | precompiled packages are usually easier to remove :p |
| 10:54.53 | keta | mwillis: you are just going to use a system less user friendly and more freesoftware oriented |
| 10:55.01 | Sonny | hey I have a weird problem, I opened mi case to clean it, after that I turned on my PC, when I'm in the welcome screen (gnome) I type my user, but doent type anything... I go to a terminal, and the keyboard works good, whats happening? |
| 10:55.12 | keta | mwillis: apart of thet, it's the same system |
| 10:55.19 | lilian | ninguem fala comigo la |
| 10:55.35 | elnovato | hola lilian |
| 10:55.40 | mwillis | I see. So Debian is more free? |
| 10:55.42 | lilian | oi, me ajuda? |
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| 10:56.05 | Eclipser | debian has more strict policy on what's free and what's not |
| 10:56.05 | keta | lilian: #debian-es |
| 10:56.11 | lilian | usted es cual naciolidad? |
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| 10:56.30 | lilian | sou brasileira |
| 10:56.36 | lilian | ninguem me entende? |
| 10:56.42 | Eclipser | !es |
| 10:56.42 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 10:56.52 | lilian | Brasil |
| 10:56.58 | Eclipser | !brasil |
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| 10:57.03 | lilian | sim! |
| 10:57.06 | Eclipser | hmpfs |
| 10:57.06 | lilian | yes |
| 10:57.08 | ft | !br |
| 10:57.08 | azeem | Eclipser: I told him several times |
| 10:57.08 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 10:57.13 | elnovato | io fala only english, spanyol, russian |
| 10:57.16 | Eclipser | azeem, yea I know |
| 10:57.18 | keta | lilian: #debian-br |
| 10:57.19 | fhffhqvb | !texugo lilian |
| 10:57.19 | dpkg | lilian: texugo texugo texugo texugo texugo cogumelo cogumelo texugo texugo texugo texugo texugo texugo serpeeente oooh serpeenteeeee! |
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| 10:57.26 | jm_ | haha |
| 10:57.29 | lilian | bobo |
| 10:57.31 | azeem | fhffhqvb: can you please stop that? |
| 10:57.32 | wassha | where could be mistake? |
| 10:57.33 | lilian | que gente doida |
| 10:57.55 | lilian | debian-br no answer |
| 10:57.55 | fhffhqvb | azeem: i typed 1 thing in 3 days. how exactly do you propose i stop anything? |
| 10:58.16 | keta | lilian: lewar english or wait for an answer there |
| 10:58.21 | elnovato | lilian: peszquiza in english |
| 10:58.41 | lilian | no se nada en english |
| 10:58.53 | fhffhqvb | i don't see you saying anything to lilian |
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| 10:58.54 | Sonny | lilian, sabes español? |
| 10:58.57 | keta | s/lewar/learn |
| 10:59.03 | pitillo | lilian, escribe /j #debian-br |
| 10:59.04 | lilian | si |
| 10:59.13 | fhffhqvb | or any of the others that are polluting the channel |
| 10:59.20 | lilian | yo se un poquito espanol |
| 10:59.26 | elnovato | she says noone answere her at #debian-br |
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| 10:59.36 | tyranix | kablam: Once you get it running once interactively, throw out that script. :) It's not Debianish. Here's one (untested naturally, I don't have access to ventrilo_srv nor do I want it if it's closed source) that you can use in /etc/init.d/ventrilo_server and it supports the standard stop/stop/restart. |
| 10:59.41 | tyranix | kablam: http://pastebin.ca/41931 |
| 10:59.54 | lilian | para que serve este chat afinal?? |
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| 11:00.14 | beardy | !br |
| 11:00.15 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 11:00.32 | wassha | anyone know how to setup firestarter to work with thunderbird connection to gmail account? |
| 11:00.34 | fhffhqvb | elnovato: and how exactly is coming in here and talking jibberish/portuguese going to improve that situation? |
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| 11:00.46 | azeem | can somebody please make lilian understand that they will not get help in portugese here and how they can join #debian-br? |
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| 11:01.07 | mwillis | Okay. I may be going with Debian |
| 11:01.08 | fhffhqvb | azeem: you mean, like the people who already did !br a few times? |
| 11:01.25 | azeem | fhffhqvb: yes |
| 11:01.33 | cappiz | someone here knows of a ftp client wich supports ssl/PRET/FXP transfers in only one command... meaning; i cant type a fulll command in shell and it would do the fxp... witout have to logon the first ftp and get the destination console, and then enter a fxp command? |
| 11:01.40 | mwillis | But, I am learning about Linux, and I don't think I can really get a good package/config setup without using a tutorial |
| 11:01.44 | Sonny | hey I have a problem, I opened mi case to clean it, after that I turned on my PC, when I'm in the welcome screen (gnome) I type my user, but doesnt type anything... I go to a terminal, and the keyboard works good, whats happening? |
| 11:01.46 | azeem | fhffhqvb: though maybe they are confused on how to switch channels, if they are new to IRC |
| 11:01.49 | elnovato | i only know to talk dirty to chicks in portuguese |
| 11:02.19 | fhffhqvb | azeem: it seems that lilian has already been there but decided that wasn't working or whatever. just kick her or something, this isn't going anywhere |
| 11:02.21 | azeem | mwillis: buy a good book then maybe |
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| 11:02.27 | beardy | mwillis: What packages you want to install is up to you, there is no "good package setup" but the one you choose yourself. |
| 11:02.52 | wassha | i enable pop3s, sstmp, but thunderbird whants to connect by 33280port etc. to gmail |
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| 11:03.01 | wassha | why? |
| 11:03.14 | azeem | wassha: did you close down all outgoing connections? |
| 11:03.20 | fhffhqvb | you can reach gmail by pop? |
| 11:03.22 | tiny | mwillis: tldp.org might be a good start |
| 11:04.09 | fhffhqvb | also, i notice lilian isn't actually running debian, but kurumin, the portuguese version of knoppix. |
| 11:04.16 | fhffhqvb | !kurumin |
| 11:04.16 | dpkg | Kurumin Linux is a Brazilian run-from-CD Linux distribution based on Knoppix. That means it's not debian. Go away.. Ajuda pra Kurumin: http://www.kurumin.com.br |
| 11:04.21 | mwillis | Thank you tiny! |
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| 11:04.37 | grumpydog | heh |
| 11:05.02 | KeX_WorX | hi |
| 11:05.11 | KeX_WorX | anyone using veritas backupclient under debian ? |
| 11:05.16 | tiny | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:05.28 | tiny | sry |
| 11:05.49 | azeem | KeX_WorX: probably not, you might have more luck describing your actual problem |
| 11:06.32 | KeX_WorX | azeem, i successfully installed the client on debian, but get errors when the server wants to connect to that client |
| 11:06.41 | KeX_WorX | azeem, mom, posting logs, just a sec |
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| 11:07.18 | KeX_WorX | azeem, http://phpfi.com/102673 <-- lofs, when the server tries to connect to the client |
| 11:07.42 | azeem | I don't know about this, sorry |
| 11:08.08 | KeX_WorX | k : ) but thx |
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| 11:08.34 | alumno | andalee |
| 11:08.38 | alumno | como andan por el ranxo |
| 11:08.51 | alumno | boludosssssssssssssssss |
| 11:09.18 | elnovato | god, all spanish are troling everywhere |
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| 11:09.31 | azeem | !es |
| 11:09.31 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:10.00 | sn00p- | I got usb support compiled in my linux kernel, i'm trying to use my motorola usb p hone as a modem how do I setup it up so I can dialout with kppp? which /dev do I have to use? |
| 11:10.50 | fhffhqvb | oh good. it's the rimatards again. |
| 11:11.29 | sn00p- | you want to say that to my face? |
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| 11:12.42 | tomplast | hi people |
| 11:12.46 | azeem | sn00p-: I think you need the usbtty module or something |
| 11:12.58 | tomplast | i have a intel d865perl motherboard and i cant get my firewire to work |
| 11:13.04 | azeem | it should be something like /dev/ttyUSB? then |
| 11:13.26 | sn00p- | I think so |
| 11:13.30 | sn00p- | i'm doing google right now |
| 11:13.33 | sn00p- | usb tty module |
| 11:13.43 | wassha | fhffhqvb: i thought, answer is yes..i send by pop3. user, pass, and retr-request nope? |
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| 11:13.58 | sn00p- | azeem: do you know if I need tho make any devices or not? |
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| 11:14.05 | tomplast | i really not wanna buy an extra firewire card when I have one integrated! |
| 11:14.48 | wassha | azeem: i think so |
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| 11:15.29 | azeem | wassha: I don't know firestarter |
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| 11:15.50 | MrIch | I have a debian grub problem, savedefault default=0 does not work after a grub update |
| 11:16.16 | azeem | sn00p-: I think the device should get created automatically by udev when you insert the appropriate kernel module |
| 11:17.23 | jm_ | it's "default saved" if you want it to default to the saved entry |
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| 11:18.43 | wassha | azeem: its a gui firewall for gnome, question is, witch ports should i open to successfully comunicate with gmail account |
| 11:19.17 | azeem | wassha: in theory, a firewall should block incoming connections you don't want |
| 11:19.28 | sn00p- | wh ere do I downlaod the kernel module or is it included? |
| 11:19.29 | azeem | plus any outgoing connections you might want to forbid to your users |
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| 11:19.40 | azeem | sn00p-: it should be included |
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| 11:19.51 | aluno | j #vale |
| 11:19.52 | azeem | sn00p-: I would suggest googling for an howto |
| 11:20.17 | azeem | wassha: so unless you want to block other users from something, I am not sure why you block outgoing connections |
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| 11:21.04 | azeem | wassha: you could check the logs to see on which port the connections are rejected, maybe |
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| 11:22.49 | hax0zzzzzzzzzzzz | alhh |
| 11:22.53 | wassha | azeem: yep i did, it wants to communicate on port 33280, but when i enable it, it wants another one |
| 11:23.00 | hax0zzzzzzzzzzzz | alguem do brasil? |
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| 11:23.03 | azeem | !br |
| 11:23.04 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 11:23.23 | azeem | wassha: yes, TCP/IP uses random ports > 1024 for outgoing connections |
| 11:23.46 | azeem | while the end port at gmail is at 110 or whatever |
| 11:23.53 | hax0zzzzzzzzzzzz | hi a-atwood_home |
| 11:24.00 | hax0zzzzzzzzzzzz | fuck... |
| 11:24.05 | hax0zzzzzzzzzzzz | =P |
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| 11:24.29 | hax0zzzzzzzzzzzz | welcome! |
| 11:24.45 | azeem | hax0zzzzzzzzzzzz: do you have a Debian question? |
| 11:24.51 | azeem | oh well |
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| 11:26.52 | disposable | if i update dns settings for my domain, how long does it take for them to have a worldwide effect? 24 hours or 48? |
| 11:27.18 | n3x_ | 48 |
| 11:27.28 | n3x_ | 24-48 |
| 11:27.31 | n3x_ | anywher ein between |
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| 11:27.53 | disposable | n3x_: crap... |
| 11:28.03 | n3x_ | why crap? |
| 11:28.22 | wassha | azeem: i act upon gmail instrucitons http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287&topic=1555 |
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| 11:28.53 | azeem | wassha: that doesn't talk about firewall setups |
| 11:28.55 | disposable | n3x_: i need it to work now! i did the changes 27 hours ago. and needed it to work this morning (11:30am where i am now) |
| 11:29.01 | foks | disposable: what's the TTL for your domain's zone ? |
| 11:29.06 | n3x_ | oh well |
| 11:29.12 | n3x_ | can you still ping it? |
| 11:29.47 | disposable | n3x_: from some shell accounts, it already displays what it should, from most actually, but from britain (where i need it) no |
| 11:30.01 | disposable | foks: wtf TTL? |
| 11:30.08 | foks | TTL = Time To Live |
| 11:30.13 | foks | what's the domain name ? |
| 11:30.19 | wassha | but tells witch ports are used to communicate with gmail server no? |
| 11:30.23 | disposable | foks: logrus.co.uk |
| 11:30.29 | foks | let me check |
| 11:30.43 | n3x_ | ill see i fits in AU |
| 11:30.44 | disposable | foks: try it, it should display something in a very weird language :) |
| 11:30.46 | n3x_ | if its |
| 11:30.49 | liran_ | how do i get more info on the pkg installed other than dpkg -l <pkg> |
| 11:31.03 | jm_ | man dpkg will tell you |
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| 11:31.14 | foks | yep it does, is that tchecz ? |
| 11:31.16 | disposable | foks n3x_ if it displays 1&1 saying it's just been registered, it's not working |
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| 11:31.25 | n3x_ | logrus.co.uk.172800INNSns1.websupport.sk. |
| 11:31.41 | disposable | foks: it's slovak. that means it works from where you are. |
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| 11:32.11 | n3x_ | working in AU fine |
| 11:32.14 | disposable | foks: where about are you? |
| 11:32.21 | foks | france |
| 11:32.22 | n3x_ | over 4 different networks |
| 11:32.46 | disposable | n3x_ foks : i'll start uploading then. thank you |
| 11:33.11 | foks | disposable: works fine from UK as well (netscalibur network) |
| 11:33.16 | wassha | azeem: i used second strategy in firewall settings because i am pretty lame in linux so far.. to disable all communication, and then allow only what i really use.. |
| 11:33.21 | disposable | foks: :) |
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| 11:33.37 | n3x_ | Ausrtalia working on Optus, Telstra, Asianetcom and Comindico |
| 11:33.37 | azeem | wassha: yes, but you do not realize in full *what* you use |
| 11:33.51 | azeem | wassha: as I said, a connection always has a starting port and an end port |
| 11:34.02 | disposable | n3x_: foks: ok ok i get the picture. it's mostly working. thanx |
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| 11:34.09 | n3x_ | let me guess.. you Drop ll on OUTPUT? |
| 11:34.14 | n3x_ | al |
| 11:34.16 | n3x_ | l |
| 11:34.17 | wassha | azeem: and thats why im looking for help here :) |
| 11:34.21 | Ramonskie | some 1 is trying to install a eggdrop on my server tru an .phpscript exploit and there isnt yet an update for it how do i prevent it anyway? |
| 11:34.28 | azeem | wassha: and as the starting port on your side is random, blocking any outgoing connection will also block POP to gmail |
| 11:34.34 | n3x_ | Turn off PHP |
| 11:34.38 | foks | disposable: you're welcome (works from germany as well :) |
| 11:34.57 | n3x_ | or remove their access to your server and get a clue |
| 11:35.02 | Ramonskie | n3x: that isnt an option lol |
| 11:36.07 | Ramonskie | isnt there anyway to have a cronjob running or something that check every hour to find *.eggdrop and deletes them? |
| 11:36.16 | jm_ | how very useful ... |
| 11:36.19 | n3x_ | why,, |
| 11:36.29 | n3x_ | why dont you just remove their access like a Sensible user |
| 11:37.01 | Ramonskie | well i want to know because maby an other user will also notice this exploit |
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| 11:37.13 | Ramonskie | ip is already blocked |
| 11:37.28 | n3x_ | PHO can be exploited alot... there isnt much you can do |
| 11:37.31 | n3x_ | PHP |
| 11:37.49 | n3x_ | a simple 5 link php script and i could kill your box |
| 11:37.51 | n3x_ | line |
| 11:38.05 | Ramonskie | yes i know |
| 11:38.21 | Ramonskie | but there isnt anything i can do to prevent an eggdrop to be installed |
| 11:38.23 | n3x_ | theres no way to stop it other than remove PHO or set limits |
| 11:38.26 | ch_ | I'd like to install a program from source. I did ./configuee && make. Now, I don't want to do make install. I want to create a .deb file, so that I could run dpkg -i mypackage.deb. What command do I need to run to create a package? |
| 11:38.40 | azeem | ch_: dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 11:38.53 | azeem | ch_: is this from a Debian source packge? |
| 11:39.17 | n3x_ | why would it be froem a source package |
| 11:39.23 | Golito | ch_, sudo checkinstall instead of make install |
| 11:39.24 | ch_ | azeem, no. It's just a program I want to install temporality |
| 11:39.31 | Ramonskie | wel thx any way n3x_ |
| 11:40.24 | Sifro | i'm trying to install the ati linux proprietary drivers with debian and x.org 6.9.0. After the configuration, i have the 3d acceleration, but the brightness of the screen is REALLY high and it's difficult to work with it.. any suggestions? google doesn't help |
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| 11:41.04 | n3x_ | si0ux press the menu button on your screen and turn the btightness down |
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| 11:42.19 | Sifro | no, it's worse then... maybe it's not a brightness problem, but a gamma problem |
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| 11:47.03 | Sonny | hey I have a problem, I opened mi case to clean it, after that I turned on my PC, when I'm in the welcome screen (gnome) I type my user, but doesnt type anything... I go to a terminal, and the keyboard works good, whats happening? |
| 11:47.04 | oskie | is there any tool to display info on AAC/iTunes files (m4a or whatever)? |
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| 11:48.57 | tiny | Sonny: I guess your PC just likes being dirty :) |
| 11:49.18 | Sonny | tiny, lol |
| 11:49.19 | comsa | ah thats why the server is down |
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| 11:49.39 | wassha | azeem: wierd...now it works |
| 11:49.45 | Sonny | tiny, I took out a mountain of dust from inside the box!! believe me!! |
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| 11:50.32 | tiny | Sonny: so your keyboard works in runlevel 2 but not in X? |
| 11:50.56 | Bautista | Hello |
| 11:51.04 | Bautista | Como va eso coleguis?? |
| 11:51.13 | Bautista | Pasando el rato, no? |
| 11:51.18 | Bautista | Eso es bueno |
| 11:51.24 | Eulex | !es |
| 11:51.24 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 11:51.29 | llama32 | i know this isnt really the place, but anyone know of any info about method lookup in OOP runtimes/languages? libobjc source isnt very helpful |
| 11:51.29 | Bautista | ¬¬ |
| 11:51.45 | Sonny | tiny: I press ctrl+F1 and the keyboard works well, but in the X I cant type my user... just works the numeric keyboard... it is very weird right? |
| 11:51.50 | Bautista | pleas |
| 11:52.45 | wassha | azeem: now it connects correctly through preset ports...isnt it wierd? :) |
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| 11:55.35 | tiny | Sonny: I'm sure it's something else then your keyboard hardware malfunction ... or not .. I had those to ... some keys working some don't ... but it's hard to diagnose the problem with so little data .. also ... not really debian related I think ;) |
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| 11:56.49 | Sonny | tiny, I took the keyboard of my another PC and change it, but the problem persists |
| 11:57.03 | mwillis | Hey everyone. How do I get Debian unstable? |
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| 11:57.32 | wily_ | hi all |
| 11:57.39 | mwillis | Hi! |
| 11:57.39 | Sonny | hi |
| 11:57.50 | comsa | hi |
| 11:57.55 | mwillis | Do you know how to get Debian unstable, wily? |
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| 11:58.04 | wily_ | i've oftem this error |
| 11:58.12 | wily_ | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 11:58.16 | wily_ | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 11:58.24 | wily_ | can anyone tell me something |
| 11:58.25 | wily_ | ? |
| 11:58.29 | tiny | Sonny: see ... it's not the keyboard problem then |
| 11:58.33 | msanchez | nick killnet |
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| 11:59.28 | Sonny | tiny, the problem is debian? it was working good |
| 11:59.56 | tiny | shh ... don't say that |
| 12:00.28 | wily_ | can anyone help me? |
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| 12:00.48 | Eulex | wily_, when you attempt to do what? |
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| 12:01.14 | msanchez | tengo un problema con el pendriver, me da el siguiente error cuando lo conecto, |
| 12:01.21 | wily_ | last example: i run vi to edit a file |
| 12:01.26 | msanchez | usb 4-6: new high speed USB device using address 2 |
| 12:01.26 | Eulex | !es |
| 12:01.26 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:01.26 | msanchez | usb 4-6: device not accepting address 2, error -71 |
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| 12:01.34 | wily_ | quitting by i've this error |
| 12:01.59 | msanchez | exit |
| 12:02.05 | Eulex | wily_, in a terminal? as what user? with what exact command line? |
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| 12:02.48 | wily_ | i'm root |
| 12:02.57 | wily_ | by shellù |
| 12:03.00 | wily_ | by shell* |
| 12:03.24 | Eulex | wily_, and you're trying to run exactly what command? |
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| 12:04.05 | Eulex | wily_, and how did you login as root? su? sudo? X as root? |
| 12:04.13 | Zerobyte | how do I install tcl? |
| 12:04.14 | wily_ | vi /etc/sources.list |
| 12:04.22 | wily_ | su |
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| 12:05.53 | wily_ | Eulex, i become root with su command |
| 12:06.27 | Eulex | wily_, for some reason, vi seems to be compiled to use X. and sometimes you can't run X programs after su'ing. try using sudo or sux instead of su. |
| 12:06.32 | wily_ | but not even xterm works |
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| 12:07.09 | oblique | wily_: man xhost |
| 12:07.11 | oblique | ;) |
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| 12:07.50 | Eulex | wily_, xterm is an X program too. depending on how xhost is set up to access connections, you sometimes can't run X programs as root after su'ing. |
| 12:08.55 | oblique | I believe I typed xhost local:root as nonroot |
| 12:09.06 | Zerobyte | how do I install tcl? |
| 12:09.08 | wily_ | but if x as user works, can i works in root space in X? |
| 12:10.53 | Eulex | wily_, please try running the program with sudo or sux. and if you mean run the full X as root: don't do that. |
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| 12:10.54 | jm_ | wily_: yes, with sux |
| 12:11.10 | wily_ | i must install them..... |
| 12:11.24 | wily_ | can i solve with xhost? |
| 12:11.48 | ootput | Can any of you in Australia recommend online computer shops? |
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| 12:12.24 | Zerobyte | ootput: gamedude.com |
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| 12:14.51 | wily_ | oblique, i try xhost + |
| 12:15.01 | Eulex | wily_, *NO* *NEVER*' |
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| 12:15.09 | wily_ | why? |
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| 12:15.30 | Eulex | wily_, you're opening a giant security hole in your computer. anyone can connect to you X session now. |
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| 12:15.42 | Eulex | *your |
| 12:15.50 | wily_ | ok |
| 12:15.54 | oblique | But you can only allow local connections.. right? |
| 12:16.00 | Eulex | oblique, yep |
| 12:16.19 | wily_ | ? |
| 12:16.30 | foks | xhost +localhost |
| 12:16.37 | Eulex | wily_, you could try xhost +127.0.0.1, and that is safe, as long as you haven't got multiple people logged in to X at the same time. and please don't /msg me. |
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| 12:17.17 | Eulex | wily_, to get rid of the security hole you opened with xhost +, do xhost -. |
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| 12:17.56 | wily_ | Eulex, but is user space too if i try xhost + i've same error |
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| 12:19.40 | foks | if your user toto, that you su to root, then do that as root 'export XAUTHORITY=/home/toto/.Xauthority' and see if it solves the problem |
| 12:20.00 | foks | s/your/you're/ |
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| 12:20.50 | Eulex | _JuDgEn_, please see /topic for info on /msging. anyway, to boot X at startup, install a display manager, like xdm, kdm, or gdm. |
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| 12:21.20 | wily_ | foks, now as user works |
| 12:21.24 | wily_ | thank you |
| 12:21.34 | foks | you're welcome |
| 12:22.29 | relic | hello |
| 12:22.29 | abac | hi when i want to remove the package dpkg error is : subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 |
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| 12:23.07 | ChrisW | anyone know where I can get a debian-branded fleece? |
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| 12:23.17 | tiny | !help |
| 12:23.18 | ChrisW | currently wearign a Red Hat one and feel slightly soiled ;-) |
| 12:23.52 | wily_ | foks, i'm become crazy |
| 12:24.02 | foks | wily_: why ? |
| 12:24.08 | ChrisW | yay! join the rest of us :-) |
| 12:24.14 | wily_ | error now is kppp:cannot connect to X server |
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| 12:24.32 | Anthro | I need to spider a website, starting at a particular URL and retrieving and following all URLs below that URL, but not above. Can anyone suggest a piece of software and configuration? |
| 12:24.41 | fourcheeze | wget |
| 12:24.46 | wily_ | if i try to launch kppp by user |
| 12:24.53 | foks | wow |
| 12:25.06 | tiny | Anthro: read wget man |
| 12:25.07 | Anthro | fourcheeze: Can wget be told to only follow URLs below the starting URL? |
| 12:25.08 | foks | need to make kppp suid root ? |
| 12:25.33 | fourcheeze | Anthro: I think so - try starting with wget --mirror |
| 12:25.47 | Eulex | Anthro, wget -rpm foo |
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| 12:27.34 | lur_ | hello |
| 12:27.43 | lur_ | how do I clear my history of commands |
| 12:27.47 | relic | hi |
| 12:28.05 | weissi | lur_, rm ~/.bash_history |
| 12:28.05 | foks | rm ~/.bash_history |
| 12:28.16 | lur_ | thanks |
| 12:28.19 | snikker | hi, when i run "apt-cdrom add" i got this error: "E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc" |
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| 12:28.40 | snikker | but it's a valid installation cdrom |
| 12:28.46 | ChrisW | so there's no debian branded gear? |
| 12:28.48 | relic | 0.O |
| 12:29.03 | lur_ | it did not work |
| 12:29.26 | kspath | ChrisW There are a couple of shops online with debianized stuffs |
| 12:29.29 | foks | lur_: log out and log back in |
| 12:29.37 | lur_ | ok |
| 12:29.42 | jm_ | there is, check Debian Merchanidse web page |
| 12:30.05 | ChrisW | kspath: where? ;-) |
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| 12:30.55 | relic | jm_, does it mean against ubuntu? |
| 12:31.04 | bignall | Hi - I haven't been here before, but I was wondering if I might get some help ... sound suddenly stopped working, and I can't figure out why |
| 12:31.23 | jm_ | relic: ehh? |
| 12:31.36 | Xteven | hello, can anyone tell me how I can demand the user for a hostname at the start of installation, using preseed ? |
| 12:31.46 | relic | jm_, ubuntu = non-free debian? |
| 12:31.53 | sep | bignall, i have the same problem. i spend a day failing to get sound to work. now suddenly a week leater i startle as a flash comercial is playing sound... wtf !!! ? !!!!??!??!?! :) |
| 12:32.07 | snikker | ChrisW: look here: http://www.debian.org/misc/merchandise |
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| 12:32.20 | bignall | lol... it's a pain, isn't it! |
| 12:32.22 | jm_ | relic: depends what you mean with free, its policy is not as strict about accepting software in it |
| 12:32.47 | ChrisW | snikker:cool, thanks :-) |
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| 12:33.02 | relic | hehe, free slaves :) |
| 12:33.17 | snikker | ChrisW: no problem :) |
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| 12:33.25 | epsilon | relic: ubuntu = broken debian + money |
| 12:33.27 | bignall | I am getting "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" anytime I cat something to /dev/dsp ... suggestions for tracking down the problem? |
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| 12:34.05 | relic | epsilon, no, bedian = ubuntu rc version :D |
| 12:34.16 | chealer9 | bignall: $ lsog /dev/dsp |
| 12:34.19 | snikker | some apt mantainer here? |
| 12:34.19 | chealer9 | bignall: lsof |
| 12:34.25 | chealer9 | snikker: unlikely |
| 12:34.42 | relic | epsilon, that's the future |
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| 12:34.47 | bignall | I get nothing |
| 12:35.15 | Eulex | Bigheart, lsof|grep /dev/dsp then? |
| 12:35.28 | snikker | chealer9: ok, thanks :( |
| 12:35.39 | Eulex | umh |
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| 12:35.49 | Eulex | s/Bigheart/bignall/ |
| 12:35.54 | bignall | Nope, nothing. Just lsof gives lots, but nothing for /dev/dsp |
| 12:35.58 | Bigheart | hey |
| 12:36.01 | Bigheart | sup |
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| 12:36.26 | Eulex | Bigheart, sorry, tab completion is evil :) |
| 12:36.34 | Bigheart | lol np:D |
| 12:36.38 | xored | i need to restore some deleted files. I deleted them yesterday an immediately mounted the drive readonly, so nothing is overwritten. Are there better tools then e2undel ( its ext2) to unerase files ? |
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| 12:36.43 | Bigheart | i am working to make new site design :D |
| 12:36.56 | judgen | what is the name of the x.org package? |
| 12:37.37 | epsilon | xored: use dd to create 1:1 mirror of the drive and run rescues with the image, never on original |
| 12:37.48 | chealer9 | !tell judgen about x.org |
| 12:38.03 | Eulex | judgen, there are lots. the xserver is in xserver-xorg. to get everything, install x-window-system. |
| 12:38.15 | judgen | perfect |
| 12:38.22 | xored | epsilon: as i know, all rescue tools restoring files on a "other" drive |
| 12:38.56 | xored | epsilon: iam not gonna restore the files directly, beside i have a raid0 running with that drive and i will try to restore only on one HDD, one is for safty |
| 12:38.57 | bignall | Eulex: so that means the file isn't being used, right? So why might it say that it's busy? |
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| 12:39.13 | xored | epsilon: raid1, sorry |
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| 12:39.39 | disposable | bignall: try fuser /dev/dsp |
| 12:39.47 | Eulex | bignall, I don't know. it might mean that oss ain't working at all. |
| 12:40.15 | Younix | Hah! |
| 12:40.18 | bignall | disposable: tried that multiple times... nothing there either |
| 12:40.18 | Younix | Just finished downloading that .iso. |
| 12:40.23 | Younix | Burning. :D |
| 12:40.40 | disposable | bignall: if you run a mixer, does it give an error? |
| 12:40.50 | bignall | Eulex: hmm... I did just update a bunch of stuff... I think there was some oss updates in there |
| 12:41.01 | Younix | What is netinst? |
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| 12:41.11 | Younix | !netinst |
| 12:41.11 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, netinst is a small cd or set of floppy images which install the base Debian system. For sarge, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ For boot floppies see http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ For etch see http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/etch_d-i/i386/beta1/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso for x86, or see dialup install. Also see d-i. |
| 12:41.20 | bignall | disposable: aumix: no device found |
| 12:41.30 | Eulex | bignall, oss is in your kernel. there are no oss-only packages. |
| 12:41.42 | disposable | bignall: there you go. oss ain't working. try to load the correct modules |
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| 12:41.53 | Younix | I hope Debian supports my soundcard. |
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| 12:42.05 | Eulex | bignall, lsmod|grep sound? |
| 12:42.09 | bignall | Eulex: okay, sorry, I thought I'd seen something about oss in there. |
| 12:42.18 | bignall | disposable: what modules do I need to load? |
| 12:42.18 | Skiver | hi there, i have a sony without cdrom, would like to perform network boot from this debian box i'm using, any suggestion where to start ? |
| 12:42.24 | Eulex | Younix, what sound card? |
| 12:42.34 | streuner | !rube goldberg install |
| 12:42.35 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 12:42.40 | pitillo | hi, good morning, anyone know about a bug with fglrx driver and xorg with ati 9250? |
| 12:42.45 | disposable | bignall: what soundcard do you have? |
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| 12:42.59 | Younix | Eulex: Card: VIA 8235 :: Chip: C-Media Electronics CMI9761 |
| 12:43.12 | Eulex | bignall, what modules you need really depends on your soundcard. I'd ditch oss completely and try out alsa. |
| 12:43.34 | bignall | disposable: Creative labs SB Audigy |
| 12:43.47 | Anthro | fourcheeze, tiny, Eulex: Thanks for the help. I wound up using: wget -r -l inf -np --convert-links --no-remove-listing -P<dir> -o log --random-wait --wait 1 <url> |
| 12:43.48 | Eulex | bignall, audigy what? |
| 12:43.54 | streuner | !tell Skiver about ig |
| 12:44.16 | disposable | Eulex: take it from here pls :) |
| 12:44.18 | bignall | Eulex: LS |
| 12:44.18 | Younix | !tell Younix about cpio |
| 12:44.37 | judgen | hmm, still havent understood this, what is the command to install xorg via apt-get? |
| 12:44.44 | Younix | Eulex, so is it supported? |
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| 12:45.23 | Eulex | Younix, I don't know. doesn't look like alsa does, but you could try. |
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| 12:45.33 | streuner | judgen: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 12:45.43 | Eulex | Younix, my wrong, it should be supported by alsa. |
| 12:46.26 | bignall | Eulex: PCI 101.0: 0401 Multimedia audio controller |
| 12:46.27 | bignall | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.27 | bignall | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.27 | bignall | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.27 | bignall | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:47.31 | bignall | oops.. sorry about that |
| 12:48.09 | Eulex | bignall, please use pastebin if you need to paste. anyway, alsa seems to support your sound card: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix (the sound blaster ls) |
| 12:48.39 | bignall | Eulex: yes, it's been working until yesterday |
| 12:49.05 | Eulex | bignall, you could try using alsa instead of oss. |
| 12:49.26 | judgen | 2.3.2 |
| 12:49.31 | bignall | Eulex: I think I am using also... oss is emulated |
| 12:49.44 | Eulex | bignall, then try running alsaconf as root. |
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| 12:49.57 | pcdog | moinsen |
| 12:50.08 | pcdog | cant someone help me? i have locked me out with snort :D |
| 12:50.12 | bignall | Eulex: okay... running now |
| 12:50.35 | judgen | all i got is the version number, 2.3.2 and my source |
| 12:50.43 | judgen | debian.org |
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| 12:50.59 | pcdog | Feb 17 13:46:47 pcdog xinetd[14377]: libwrap refused connection to imaps (libwrap=imapd) from 81.63.184.159 |
| 12:50.59 | pcdog | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.22 | bkankur | when i am compiling the kernel with"make menuconfig" it gives the error for ncurses package. and after doing apt-cache seach ncurses.. i got a list of ncurses packages so from which package i should start |
| 12:51.31 | Eulex | judgen, you're on stable? |
| 12:51.33 | jm_ | bkankur: /msg dpkg ncurses |
| 12:51.38 | foks | apt-get install libncurses5-dev |
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| 12:52.22 | xored | how to remove a drive out of an software aray ( madam) so its an normal drive with that data ( raid1 ) |
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| 12:52.41 | judgen | done |
| 12:52.53 | bignall | Eulex: well, it seems to have worked, and cat to dev/dsp doesn't give an error, but neither do I hear anything |
| 12:53.02 | judgen | now what? |
| 12:53.33 | britt | I have Tiger installed on my debian box, and it told me that I have the rootkit installed and a trojan installed...how do I remove these? |
| 12:54.04 | judgen | britt have you gotten the new tiger trojan? |
| 12:54.25 | britt | LKM trojan |
| 12:54.43 | nkuttler | britt: if you really have a trojan/rootkit on your box the only safe way is to reinstall from scratch |
| 12:54.57 | judgen | agree |
| 12:55.02 | britt | rediculous |
| 12:55.03 | Eulex | bignall, have you run alsa-mixer and verified the volume levels? |
| 12:55.18 | nkuttler | britt: that's why you should verify if what tiger reports is really correct |
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| 12:55.39 | zege | hi |
| 12:55.44 | britt | well where are rootkits inatalled? |
| 12:55.51 | britt | and trojans? |
| 12:56.06 | Skiver | any idea how to boot a laptop from network ? |
| 12:56.21 | nkuttler | britt: you know, once somebody has root on your box, he can open a gazillion of new backdoors |
| 12:56.39 | britt | alright i'll back my crap up and reinstall |
| 12:56.47 | bignall | Eulex: oops.. they were all the way down. adjusted, but still no thing... I do remember that I had to do some fiddling with the mixer before. too bad I don't remember what I adjusted to make it work |
| 12:56.51 | britt | there goes like a week of work |
| 12:57.13 | judgen | britt just save your work before installing |
| 12:57.49 | britt | dude, its a linode. and this is the second damn time i've been screwed |
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| 12:58.13 | Eulex | bignall, adjusted both master and pcm? |
| 12:58.29 | britt | should i mount the main boot partition as ro |
| 12:58.34 | pitillo | britt, do you try chrootkit? |
| 12:58.35 | Xteven | is there a debian developer channel ? |
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| 12:58.44 | nkuttler | Xteven: yes |
| 12:58.45 | judgen | Hmm this time the xserver tells me that id does not exist =P |
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| 12:58.57 | judgen | cant find xinit |
| 12:58.57 | Xteven | nkuttler : what is it called ? |
| 12:59.16 | nkuttler | Xteven: well, it's only for developers. if you were a developer you would know i guess. |
| 12:59.24 | Eulex | judgen, (1) stable/testing/unstable (2) what are you trying to run? |
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| 12:59.33 | Xteven | nkuttler : neat |
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| 12:59.46 | Xteven | nkuttler : is there another way I can ask developers for some help/advice ? |
| 12:59.55 | nkuttler | Xteven: did you ask here yet? |
| 13:00.00 | Xteven | yes |
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| 13:00.08 | Xteven | -> hello, can anyone tell me how I can demand the user for a hostname at the start of installation, using preseed ? |
| 13:00.21 | judgen | Eulex stable |
| 13:00.33 | bignall | Eulex: argg... now getting "Device or resource busy" again |
| 13:00.34 | Eulex | judgen, where did you get xorg for stable from? |
| 13:00.45 | judgen | hmm, i havent yet... |
| 13:00.50 | judgen | it seems =) |
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| 13:01.01 | Eulex | judgen, you're running xfree86? have you install x-window-system? |
| 13:01.28 | britt | im infected |
| 13:01.33 | britt | see ya guys |
| 13:01.38 | nkuttler | Xteven: what's a user for a hostname? |
| 13:01.46 | bignall | eulex: I don't see anything that says master or pcm in the mixer |
| 13:01.46 | Eulex | britt, bless you :) |
| 13:01.51 | judgen | rofl, i had screwed with the configs.. now it can find xinit |
| 13:02.14 | Xteven | nkuttler : I want to ask the user what hostname the machine he is installing, should have |
| 13:02.14 | Eulex | bignall, then what does it say? |
| 13:02.26 | judgen | and off i go! hello world of svga and colors =P |
| 13:02.36 | nkuttler | Xteven: but the installer does that already |
| 13:03.03 | Xteven | nkuttler : yes, but when I preseed the answers, it doesn't because the priority of the question is too low |
| 13:03.35 | Xteven | nkuttler : and I can't change the priority easily because the question is asked from the netcfg udeb, which asks that specific question from a compiled binary instead of a script |
| 13:03.42 | bignall | Eulex: Analog C, Analog F, Analog R, Analog S, Cature, SPDIF Center, SPDIF Front, SPDIF Out, Spdif Rear, SPDIF Un |
| 13:03.44 | Eulex | !wayttd Xteven |
| 13:03.44 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Xteven? |
| 13:04.02 | bignall | Eulex: I have them all set at 50 now |
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| 13:04.11 | Xteven | Eulex : I'm trying to make a custom debian install CD using preseed |
| 13:04.12 | Eulex | bignall, hmm, dunno then |
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| 13:04.40 | bignall | Eulex: SPDIF Out appears to be a switch, but I can't figure out how to change it |
| 13:04.42 | Xteven | Eulex : one of the questions that the user should answer is what hostname the machine should have |
| 13:05.01 | yannick | I edited /etc/services & restarted bind; What else can I do to avoid the following error: |
| 13:05.04 | yannick | Cannot create listening port .. aborting |
| 13:05.04 | yannick | cautela@cautela:~/psybnc$ |
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| 13:05.27 | bignall | Eulex: thanks for your help!! I have to go and come back to this later. |
| 13:05.41 | Eulex | bignall, press m |
| 13:05.45 | britt | Eulex: thanks, i saw that right b4 my box shut down |
| 13:05.52 | britt | :) |
| 13:06.24 | britt | how do i, using a linode box, set something to be rw for a time and then switch it to ro |
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| 13:06.34 | Eulex | britt, :) |
| 13:06.38 | bignall | Eulex: yup, that worked... I'll have to work on why it's saying the device is busy again later. thanks |
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| 13:07.08 | nkuttler | Xteven: hm... you could try #debian-boot. or try to put it in base-config and ask then. |
| 13:07.39 | Xteven | nkuttler : base-config is already too late |
| 13:07.51 | Xteven | nkuttler : netcfg is done before base-config |
| 13:07.58 | Xteven | nkuttler : but I'll try #debian-boot, thx |
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| 13:09.12 | britt | can anybody tell me why my box is getting hacked? |
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| 13:09.39 | azeem | britt: what version of Debian are you running? |
| 13:09.39 | nkuttler | britt: are you sure it got hacked? are you sure it's not a false positive? |
| 13:09.44 | britt | 3.1 sarge |
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| 13:09.59 | britt | nkuttler: somebody was usiing it to send mail |
| 13:10.04 | nkuttler | britt: ok |
| 13:10.07 | britt | i saw a frozen message just now |
| 13:10.12 | britt | so i shut it off |
| 13:10.18 | britt | immediately |
| 13:10.24 | azeem | britt: maybe you misconfigured your mail server to accept relaying? |
| 13:11.01 | britt | see thw exact thing happened last time, and it wasnt config'd to do any relaying |
| 13:11.04 | SlayerXP | britt: how did you jump from "frozen message" to "my box has been hacked!" ? |
| 13:11.17 | britt | it was goign to someone I didnt even know |
| 13:11.21 | britt | yahoo.co.jp |
| 13:11.25 | SlayerXP | britt: so? |
| 13:11.28 | britt | so? |
| 13:11.38 | britt | i was also gettiung segmentation faults |
| 13:11.46 | SlayerXP | my mail gets mesages _all the time_ from people I don't know |
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| 13:12.02 | britt | look, the last thing i want is to get linode down my back again |
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| 13:12.08 | SlayerXP | mail server, I mean |
| 13:12.08 | SlayerXP | such is the joy of running an SMTP server |
| 13:12.26 | britt | i dont think it matters |
| 13:12.51 | britt | im going to mount the debian install ro |
| 13:12.58 | britt | then nobody will be able to F with me |
| 13:13.10 | SlayerXP | .... |
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| 13:13.56 | britt | whats up with the signal 11s EVERYWHERE |
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| 13:14.15 | SlayerXP | britt: bad memory |
| 13:14.28 | britt | i guess linode needs to change the DIMMS then |
| 13:14.40 | poison | Hi all, I have a 3w9xxx SATA raid controller but it's not supported in sarge's installer, where can I find a module and how can I load this? |
| 13:14.58 | jm_ | use Sarge with 2.6.15 or 14 kernel |
| 13:15.27 | poison | but it's sarge_amd64 :) |
| 13:15.33 | jm_ | good luck then |
| 13:15.39 | Silent_al | lolz |
| 13:16.04 | bbrazil | poison: you can get unofficial netinstall cds with newer kernels |
| 13:16.05 | poison | 3ware has a modified debian installer but it sucks as the libdl.so.2 gives errors |
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| 13:16.19 | quik_ | hey folks |
| 13:16.21 | britt | SlayerXP: signal 11 = poorly written coup de tat of my server |
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| 13:16.40 | poison | bbrazil: where can I find it? I don't want to use unstable or testing software... |
| 13:16.53 | korven | how do i configure x11 from a terminal? |
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| 13:17.23 | quik_ | how can I supply the address of a deb file to dpkg and install it? |
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| 13:18.06 | jm_ | !drxx korven |
| 13:18.06 | dpkg | korven: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 13:18.39 | poison | hey, I have an identical server without the raid controller so I can compile modules etc but they just wont load :s |
| 13:18.46 | bbrazil | poison: you'll have to google for it - look for my post over the summer on dell's linux-poweredge list, the reply contains the answer |
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| 13:20.14 | poison | bbrazil: and what is your name? (to search on |
| 13:20.15 | poison | ) |
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| 13:20.34 | bbrazil | poison: /whois, it won't help you though. google doesn't seem to index those lists properly |
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| 13:21.51 | hugoboss | Hi all! I'm trying to play videos with totem from a samba share but I've got an error saying that there are no plugins to handle that ressource. Which package can solve my problem? |
| 13:22.04 | Skiver | GPG error: ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F |
| 13:22.07 | adii | hugoboss, w32codecs |
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| 13:22.13 | azeem | Skiver: see /topic |
| 13:22.21 | adii | hugoboss, but it ain't free , just do /msg dpkg w32codecs |
| 13:22.25 | britt | alright |
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| 13:22.39 | poison | ok I found it bbrazil, but are you sure it contains the 3w9xxx driver? |
| 13:22.40 | britt | SlayerXP: I coudl just turn off exim4 so it doesnt send stuff, right? |
| 13:22.51 | britt | so i can tar my backup files up? |
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| 13:23.02 | hugoboss | adii: I've them installed in /usr/lib/win32!!! |
| 13:23.55 | azeem | hugoboss: can you copy that media file to your box and play successfully in totem? |
| 13:23.59 | adii | hugoboss, have you just unpacked a tar gz file on /usr/lib/win32 ? have you checked whether the file was owned by root (so noone can access it?) |
| 13:24.07 | hugoboss | azeem: yes |
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| 13:24.18 | jeanjacques | hello |
| 13:24.47 | korven | haha, im downloading 450mb at 900b/s |
| 13:24.58 | britt | korven: wow. |
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| 13:25.01 | korven | ill be done in about 4-6 weeks with this install |
| 13:25.04 | jeanjacques | i would like to be sure that my dns server is running properly on my debian sarge, do you have any advices ? |
| 13:25.06 | bbrazil | poison: http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2005-September/022740.html |
| 13:25.16 | hugoboss | adii: yes, and yes |
| 13:25.24 | bbrazil | poison: just reading it now, its only 2.6.12 so it mightn't |
| 13:25.39 | toblerp | does anybody know why windows says that the stratum is too high? |
| 13:25.40 | toblerp | http://paste.debian.net/4558 |
| 13:25.53 | adii | maybe i'm misleading you but .. have you tried installing w32codecs with apt-get install using marillat's repository ? |
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| 13:26.27 | hugoboss | adii: no. I unpacked a tgz file |
| 13:26.36 | poison | bbrazil: well indeed I found it and I found the link to the netinst iso but do you know for sure that the guy compiled the 3w9xxx modules in his kernel? |
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| 13:27.04 | gibbon | Yoho.. Quick question; How do I check the CPU temp? :) |
| 13:27.05 | bbrazil | poison: couldn't tell you. You could modify the installer |
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| 13:27.17 | britt | gibbon: mbmon |
| 13:27.24 | britt | i think |
| 13:27.31 | bbrazil | gibbon: lm-sensors |
| 13:27.34 | adii | hugoboss, maybe you should try then. i dunno if it helps but .. just give a try :p |
| 13:27.43 | poison | tnx |
| 13:27.53 | hugoboss | adii: could you give the right entry to add to my sources.list to test it? |
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| 13:27.58 | gibbon | None of those are installed.. apt-get install mbmon? (or ln-sensors) |
| 13:28.03 | britt | yep |
| 13:28.06 | adii | hugoboss, using sarge, etch, sid ? |
| 13:28.10 | britt | id do lm-sensors tho |
| 13:28.18 | britt | mbmon was wierd |
| 13:28.19 | hugoboss | adii: unstable |
| 13:28.21 | gibbon | Then lm-sensors it is :) |
| 13:28.40 | adii | hugoboss, let's go private |
| 13:28.56 | hugoboss | adii: ok |
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| 13:30.55 | hugoboss | adii: sorry, I logged out by accident. I'm not registered to go to private |
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| 13:31.09 | usn__work | hi folx |
| 13:31.10 | gibbon | Hm, seems like my kernel don't have support for the sensors.. :/ Anyways, thanks. |
| 13:31.25 | adii | err nevermind |
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| 13:31.32 | adii | hugoboss, just do /msg dpkg marillat.etch |
| 13:31.38 | adii | dpkg will tell you what to do (= |
| 13:31.44 | adii | marillat's line is : deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main |
| 13:31.56 | poison | bbrazil: it doesn't contain the image :s but do you know how I can insert a module in that kernel? |
| 13:32.32 | hugoboss | adii: thanks. I'll give a try and give you some feedback in a while |
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| 13:32.57 | bbrazil | poison: there's some package to build install CDs, its not something I've done |
| 13:33.20 | poison | in that iso? |
| 13:33.23 | jetscreamer | why is utf8+ncurses stupid |
| 13:33.35 | bbrazil | poison: no, in debian in general |
| 13:33.46 | ootput | stupid is, stupid does |
| 13:33.50 | jetscreamer | or ugly or how do you fix it |
| 13:34.03 | jetscreamer | if you don't know what i mean you've never tried it |
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| 13:34.36 | poison | also for debian-amd64 systems? |
| 13:34.39 | Knorrie | jetscreamer: what's your locale? |
| 13:34.57 | britt | this machine is running real slow |
| 13:35.04 | jetscreamer | utf8 us .. i forget the string but that one is what it's set at |
| 13:35.04 | ootput | jetscreamer: which apps in particular. i have utf8 working fine in screen + ncurse-based apps |
| 13:35.29 | jetscreamer | any dpkg-reconfigure |
| 13:35.51 | jetscreamer | dselect, others |
| 13:35.54 | ootput | echo $LC_ALL |
| 13:36.09 | ootput | it could also be the font |
| 13:36.19 | hugoboss | adii: is there any problem with that source? I can't download the packages. It's says "no such file or directory" |
| 13:36.43 | poison | bbrazil: do you know the name of the package please? |
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| 13:36.50 | adii | hugoboss, you need to activate a key : look on /msg dpkg marillat.key |
| 13:36.57 | adii | (to be able to download) |
| 13:37.13 | hugoboss | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.23 | hugoboss | sorry ppl |
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| 13:38.06 | jetscreamer | ootput: i'm not in the default installation, the default installation is borked beyond belief thanks to 2.6 and udev and the fact that i have an addin controller card |
| 13:38.13 | jetscreamer | and 5 os's |
| 13:38.36 | jetscreamer | i can let you d/l the .zip :) |
| 13:38.37 | hugoboss | adii: I just get marillat.key!!! |
| 13:39.00 | jetscreamer | might be the font though |
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| 13:39.30 | jetscreamer | you know where you have those lines in ncurses for the boxes? i get + signs and unaglined text |
| 13:39.35 | jetscreamer | aligned |
| 13:39.59 | poison | is there a way to download the stock-kernel sources, build an external module, save that module to floppy and insmod it on a new installation so that the hardware is supported? |
| 13:40.04 | bbrazil | poison: nope, try apt-cache search |
| 13:40.33 | jetscreamer | where do i learn about udev scripts, also |
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| 13:40.59 | bbrazil | poison: theoritically possible |
| 13:41.14 | poison | but? |
| 13:41.27 | jetscreamer | but it's up2u to implement it probably |
| 13:41.50 | poison | and can I use a vanila kernel? |
| 13:41.54 | poison | *vanilla |
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| 13:46.00 | macuserondope | Any raid-experts out there ? I have to understand the output of mdadm -E |
| 13:46.26 | macuserondope | my raid is crashed :-( |
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| 13:47.15 | SlayerXP | macuserondope: what error do you have? what do the docs say about it? |
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| 13:48.27 | macuserondope | The "error" is, that 2 disks of my 3-disc-raid5 markt as faulty. but they still work. |
| 13:48.40 | macuserondope | i want to reinit ( without override ) the raid. |
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| 13:49.54 | macuserondope | mdadm -E for every single hd says : 'State : clean' - but the raid won't come up. |
| 13:50.31 | hugoboss | adii: got the key problem solved. Which is the package that I ned to install? |
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| 13:53.05 | poison | how can I replace the kernel of the netinstall image by my own kernel? |
| 13:53.25 | azeem | poison: I think the installation manual has some information on that |
| 13:53.39 | azeem | poison: note that 2.6.15 sarge d-i images are available unofficially |
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| 13:54.01 | korE_ | what should i use for a mail daemon on my server, that has pop3 and all that jazz |
| 13:54.12 | poison | azeem: also for debian-amd64? |
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| 13:54.20 | azeem | poison: I don't know |
| 13:54.23 | azeem | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 13:54.24 | dpkg | well, sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm |
| 13:54.37 | poison | tnx |
| 13:54.40 | pcdog | korE_, i use postfix + uwimapd + qpopper and its very stable :D |
| 13:55.20 | korE_ | is it a pain in the ass to configure, i just speant all day yesterday configuring bind9/named/dns |
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| 13:55.38 | korE_ | the last thing i want is to spend another 20 some hours configuring something |
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| 13:55.57 | azeem | poison: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/2.6.15/sarge-custom-0209-x86_64.iso |
| 13:55.59 | jetscreamer | hugoboss: for what |
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| 13:57.12 | poison | azeem: it doesn't boot (If I read the comments on that image) |
| 13:57.18 | azeem | ah |
| 13:57.25 | azeem | didn't check too thoroughly |
| 13:57.31 | epsilon | korE_: local delivery only, internet server with mails for local user, or also for additional user with multiple domains? |
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| 13:58.28 | britt | so is the trojan a process in top that i can stop, or is it masqueraded in something else? |
| 13:58.31 | hugoboss | jetscreamer: to play video files with totem from a samba share |
| 13:58.48 | jetscreamer | w32codecs maybe, or others |
| 13:58.54 | korE_ | single domain, accesible via http://mail.domainname.com so pop and smtp for a mail client if i ever get one |
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| 13:59.26 | epsilon | korE_: one user? |
| 13:59.39 | poison | is "boot-floppies" the place to be if I want to replace the stock kernel by my own custom kernel? |
| 13:59.41 | hugoboss | jetscreamer: already installed but I have a message saying that there are no plugins to handle the location of the movies |
| 13:59.51 | britt | SlayerXP: so if 'chkrootkit' shows no signs of a rootkit, then i'm okay |
| 13:59.53 | _shams | hi, lilypond-data removing error by apt-get:/var/lib/dpkg/info/lilypond-data.postrm: line 23: /usr/bin/kpsewhich: No such file or directory |
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| 13:59.57 | britt | ? |
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| 14:00.04 | SlayerXP | britt: maybe. |
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| 14:00.17 | britt | hmm |
| 14:00.17 | jetscreamer | hugoboss: does it say what you need? |
| 14:00.20 | korE_ | no mutiple users, webmaster@blah.com korE@blah.com services@blah.com etc |
| 14:00.31 | epsilon | korE_: exim + qpopper |
| 14:00.33 | hugoboss | jetscreamer: no :-( |
| 14:00.37 | britt | SlayerXP: is it a chance I should take |
| 14:00.53 | SlayerXP | britt: you should stop guessing and find out what's going on. |
| 14:01.11 | SlayerXP | britt: if you're not sure, then either hire someone to make sure, or wipe the box and start again. |
| 14:01.14 | korE_ | epsilon: thanks |
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| 14:01.24 | epsilon | forward webmaster/admin/whatever with /etc/alias to single user |
| 14:01.25 | tuv | when i mount an nfs dir. including "bind"-mounted sub-dir., they are inaccessible, how can i fix that? |
| 14:01.34 | jetscreamer | hugoboss: you might need to find out what codec is inside the .avi/.wmv/.whatever |
| 14:01.52 | korE_ | just apt-get them and configure yes? |
| 14:01.54 | jetscreamer | tuv maybe set the uid/gid |
| 14:02.00 | britt | okay |
| 14:02.02 | hugoboss | jetscreamer: wmv. how do I do that? |
| 14:02.04 | britt | well im wiping |
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| 14:02.21 | tuv | jetscreamer: they are set properly in the original fs |
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| 14:02.47 | tuv | jetscreamer: the dir. are accessible as far as permissions, but contain 0 entries |
| 14:02.50 | epsilon | korE_: qpopper should work as installed. exim need your domain, additional smtp account if you want to send mails |
| 14:02.53 | britt | SlayerXP: well how to i check to see if a certain trojan is on my machine, google it? |
| 14:02.54 | jetscreamer | hugoboss: i don't know much so if it was me i'd d/l the file and open it up in some video editor, or just install every codec known to man |
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| 14:03.00 | Mojo244 | Hey, is there an online resource that shows a debian package and all of its dependencies? |
| 14:03.10 | petemc | Mojo244: packages.debian.org |
| 14:03.11 | jetscreamer | !pdo |
| 14:03.11 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/, or the machine that hosts http://packages.debian.org has been overloaded, a temporary replacement can be found at http://pdo.debian.net |
| 14:03.15 | SlayerXP | britt: you could use your brain, I suppose. |
| 14:03.19 | SlayerXP | radical idea, I know |
| 14:03.20 | jetscreamer | if it's fixed yet |
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| 14:03.30 | Mojo244 | thanks, perfect :) |
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| 14:03.45 | korE_ | epsilon: could I use something like squirrelmail instead of multiple applications? |
| 14:03.49 | jvimont_ | #debian |
| 14:03.59 | hugoboss | jetscreamer: thanks for your help |
| 14:04.10 | jvimont_ | #cvf |
| 14:04.11 | poison | isn't there anybody who knows how to replace the stock kernel by a custom kernel in the netinst installer? |
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| 14:04.41 | jetscreamer | poison: there are docs on debian.org |
| 14:04.53 | epsilon | korE_: haven't tried it... but exim is MTA, qpopper is pop3... jobs are different |
| 14:04.58 | jetscreamer | tuv not sure beyond me then |
| 14:05.07 | poison | I don't find them :s the faq says something about boot-floppies but nothing more |
| 14:05.23 | jetscreamer | poison: sounds like a remaster job maybe, or that would be one way |
| 14:05.32 | n3x_ | poison install the stock then upgrade kernel |
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| 14:05.47 | poison | n3x_ my raid controller isn't supported |
| 14:05.50 | jetscreamer | he needs a module i think |
| 14:05.53 | jetscreamer | that |
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| 14:06.04 | lilian | oi |
| 14:06.05 | elirips | hello people. is there a way to install debian on a system that has no cd-rom/floppy, but only an ethernet-card? |
| 14:06.08 | n3x_ | load a module from floppy then |
| 14:06.18 | poison | I'm using debian-amd64 sarge |
| 14:06.25 | n3x_ | elirips does the network card support booting |
| 14:06.42 | britt | well chkrootkit wasnt happy this morning |
| 14:06.58 | britt | but something either bombed out or quit and now its fine |
| 14:07.02 | elirips | n3x_: uh, i don't know - how to test that? |
| 14:07.12 | n3x_ | elirips what card |
| 14:07.15 | azeem | elirips: or you could try booting off a USB stick |
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| 14:07.25 | adii | what should i do to be able to read newsgroups ? (i'm really newb at that) |
| 14:07.31 | n3x_ | chances are if it has no floppy or cdrom is a POS laptop |
| 14:07.39 | lilian | brasil |
| 14:07.43 | n3x_ | and should be thrown in the bin |
| 14:07.44 | lilian | como faço? |
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| 14:07.50 | azeem | adii: install a news reader, and get access to a newsserver |
| 14:07.52 | jetscreamer | !br |
| 14:07.53 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:08.01 | azeem | adii: does your provider provide a newsserver? |
| 14:08.13 | britt | okay, well after a fresh reboot and looking around and with chkrootkit |
| 14:08.15 | elirips | n3x_: a 3c905b-tx (3com) |
| 14:08.16 | britt | i'm good. |
| 14:08.25 | adii | azeem, i don't think so |
| 14:08.27 | n3x_ | elirips nope your stuffed |
| 14:08.34 | n3x_ | elirips install a cdrom |
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| 14:08.41 | azeem | adii: then finding a newsserver will be the hard part |
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| 14:08.51 | elirips | n3x_: well, okay. if i have to ;) |
| 14:08.56 | azeem | there are some commercially available I think |
| 14:09.02 | elirips | n3x_: but how would that work to boot from a network card ?? |
| 14:09.16 | adii | really :/ |
| 14:09.24 | n3x_ | elirips you can setup a Network Boot server |
| 14:09.30 | britt | so getting random frozen messgaes and stuff isnt a hijack necessarily |
| 14:09.32 | adii | gmail lets me access to news groups though |
| 14:09.45 | n3x_ | if the card supports PXE booting then you can start the install from off the network |
| 14:10.20 | elirips | n3x_: okay, but seting up that network boot server would definitly take more time than installing a cdrom |
| 14:10.21 | n3x_ | all Intel Pro cards support Netboot |
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| 14:10.39 | n3x_ | elirips about 2 mins if you know what your doing |
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| 14:10.51 | jetscreamer | and if you don't? |
| 14:10.54 | jetscreamer | (like me) |
| 14:11.04 | elirips | n3x_: well, i'll go ahead with the cdrom-way, thanks for your help |
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| 14:11.44 | adii | azeem, ok actually my isp offers a news server |
| 14:11.53 | azeem | adii: then choose a client |
| 14:12.12 | azeem | evolution, knode, slrn, (r)tin are some |
| 14:12.34 | adii | let's go with evolution then |
| 14:12.50 | azeem | adii: you could use leafnode to store the news on your box for offline reading, then you would point your client to your localhost |
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| 14:14.48 | britt | thanks guys. Things were bombing out this morning, but it was from signal 11s...i'll open a support ticket about that |
| 14:14.59 | Wanderer | anyone know what package I need so that apt-get will stop complaining it doesn't know what term "color_xterm" is? |
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| 14:15.18 | jetscreamer | file:///usr/share/doc/udev/writing_udev_rules/index.html |
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| 14:15.32 | jm_ | Wanderer: you mean xterm-color? |
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| 14:17.03 | tuv | when i mount an nfs dir. including "bind"-mounted sub-dir., the "bind"ed dirs. appear empty in nfs, how can i fix that? |
| 14:17.33 | jm_ | you need to export it with the right options |
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| 14:17.41 | n3x_ | rtfm |
| 14:18.11 | foks | tuv: tcpdump on the nfs server's side and check for errors |
| 14:18.37 | dusty- | How do i change read access on a file, like sshd_config i dont want people to be able to read it? |
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| 14:18.52 | adii | azeem : nothing looks like news reader in evolution. |
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| 14:19.09 | azeem | adii: I'd rather try slrn first |
| 14:19.17 | adii | ok i 'll |
| 14:19.19 | azeem | adii: I never managed to get news working in evolution |
| 14:19.21 | limpio | what is the file that shows the error in var log? |
| 14:19.33 | azeem | adii: you can choose NNTP when setting up a new mail profile |
| 14:19.39 | azeem | (in evolution I mean) |
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| 14:20.54 | Luftzig | how do I map new keys? |
| 14:21.02 | jetscreamer | xkbmodmap maybe |
| 14:21.03 | adii | is slrn a terminal prog ? |
| 14:21.06 | jetscreamer | or so... |
| 14:21.07 | adii | (console i mean) |
| 14:21.20 | ice_1963 | i won't to install Debian on a laptop what do i install for a mouse? |
| 14:21.21 | jetscreamer | i thinik i mispelled it |
| 14:21.22 | jm_ | adii: yes |
| 14:21.24 | Wanderer | jm: I have 8 machines that use "color_xterm" and only one complains |
| 14:21.27 | bignall | I'm having trouble with my sound... I got it working again, and it works for KDE events, but when I try to try to cat something to /dev/dsp I get "Device or resource busy" and when I run wesnoth, it says "error audio: Could not initialize audio: No available audio device" , however neither fuser nor lsof list any process using /dev/dsp. Any suggestions? |
| 14:21.30 | tuv | foks: i though nfs uses udp, will tcpdump work with that? besides, the nfs mount completes successfully, just some sub-dirs. that are "bind"-mounted appear empty in the nfs client. |
| 14:21.43 | Luftzig | jetscreamer, thanks. |
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| 14:22.00 | foks | tuv: sure tcpdump works for udp |
| 14:22.04 | jm_ | Wanderer: it's part of ncurses |
| 14:22.18 | jetscreamer | bignall: maybe /dev/adsp |
| 14:22.20 | jm_ | Wanderer: so make sure relevant terminfo file is available |
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| 14:22.29 | ice_1963 | it's not a ps2 |
| 14:22.32 | foks | tuv: the mount completing successfully doesn't mean that everything is ok ;) |
| 14:22.32 | l-fy | hello |
| 14:22.45 | britt | !hi l-fy |
| 14:22.53 | l-fy | how can i setup the X11 paramters like resolution, colors and so on in debian with graphical interface? |
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| 14:22.58 | tuv | foks: ok.. will try that.. thanks |
| 14:23.11 | jetscreamer | imps2 means wheel and ps2 means no wheel.. psaux means ps2 and /dev/input/mice means usb (i believe) |
| 14:23.18 | britt | l-fy: KDE or Gnome? |
| 14:23.25 | Brainwalker | i killed the table mysql inside my db ;) is there an easy way to reinstall it ? |
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| 14:23.36 | jetscreamer | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after hwinfo --monitor |
| 14:23.48 | bignall | jetscreamer: well, no error message with that one, but no sound either |
| 14:23.49 | jetscreamer | you dropped the table? |
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| 14:23.55 | Brainwalker | yes ;( |
| 14:23.58 | jetscreamer | bignall: beyond me then |
| 14:24.13 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 14:24.20 | jetscreamer | Brainwalker: got backup? (beyond me then) |
| 14:24.29 | adii | what's that "hostname" thing, needed by slrc ? |
| 14:24.31 | l-fy | britt: kde, but it doesn't matter much |
| 14:24.53 | Brainwalker | jetscreamer: no...there was no important data...its just that i cant use mysql now anymore |
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| 14:25.17 | Brainwalker | does a reinstall solves this problem ? |
| 14:25.21 | bignall | jetscreamer: thanks, any suggestions for diagnosing the problem? |
| 14:25.28 | jm_ | read slrn's manual, it has detailed information for each config variable |
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| 14:25.50 | tiny | heh |
| 14:25.54 | tiny | !ls |
| 14:25.54 | dpkg | CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT TEMP WINDOWS My Documents PROGRA~1 |
| 14:25.56 | ft | adii: zless /usr/share/doc/slrn/manual.txt.gz |
| 14:25.59 | jetscreamer | Brainwalker: it 'might' and you might need to man dpkg and search the force options, or just uninstall it and reinstall |
| 14:26.06 | jetscreamer | s/and/or/ |
| 14:26.07 | abrotman | he might be able to rerun the postinst for mysql |
| 14:26.16 | jetscreamer | abrotman knows more than me |
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| 14:26.23 | abrotman | yeah . don't use mysql :) |
| 14:26.46 | abrotman | how do you accidentally drop that table? |
| 14:26.49 | jetscreamer | bignall: i use the shotgun approach, so no not really |
| 14:27.14 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 14:27.19 | bignall | jetscreamer: yeah, me too... thus my inability to solve the problem :/ |
| 14:27.51 | soup_ | what does forwarders {} do in named.conf? Forward any DNS queries up to a nameserver? |
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| 14:28.20 | britt | whats the point in ls for the bot |
| 14:28.42 | foks | soup_: man 5 named.conf |
| 14:29.09 | jetscreamer | wesnoth 'may' be trying to use oss bignall .. got the oss wrapper? also you might check the available modules for alsa and see what's not loaded |
| 14:29.13 | soup_ | foks: it lists the syntax, but not what it does |
| 14:29.25 | jetscreamer | this may or may not help.. /msg dpkg alsa-bork |
| 14:29.33 | jetscreamer | then there's rtc vs genrtc |
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| 14:30.12 | poison_ | when I do apt-get install boot-floppies I get that bootfloppies has no installation candidate |
| 14:30.17 | jetscreamer | and one alsa module needs rtc but vanilla kernels 'used' to load genrtc by default, and that alsa module wouldn't load.. (it's not a sound module but just some alsa thing) |
| 14:30.26 | soup_ | I'll just download ethereal and take a peak and what it does |
| 14:30.27 | foks | soup_: I think you didn't read the man page then |
| 14:30.28 | jetscreamer | poison_: did you d/l a boot floppy? |
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| 14:30.42 | poison_ | jetscreamer: no |
| 14:31.09 | jetscreamer | http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/Linux/Tips+Tricks/debian-boot.html |
| 14:31.16 | jetscreamer | maybe there might help i dunno |
| 14:31.22 | poison_ | tnx |
| 14:31.39 | jetscreamer | !info boot-floppies |
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| 14:31.46 | soup_ | foks: the man page I have lists syntax only |
| 14:31.54 | jetscreamer | !find boot-fl |
| 14:32.02 | bignall | jetscreamer: yes, I have the oss wrapper, how can I check the other |
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| 14:32.05 | Brainwalker | jetscreamer: reinstall worked! |
| 14:32.06 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'boot-fl' (2): (/usr/bin/make-memtest86-boot-floppy) in misc/memtest86 ;; (/usr/bin/make-memtest86+-boot-floppy) in misc/memtest86+. |
| 14:32.21 | jetscreamer | yay |
| 14:32.25 | jetscreamer | !wtg abrotman |
| 14:32.26 | dpkg | Way to go, abrotman! Righteous! |
| 14:32.27 | Brainwalker | and old database are still there ;) |
| 14:32.31 | abrotman | what? |
| 14:32.34 | foks | soup_: if the forwarders list is not empty and you specify 'first' for 'forwarder' then you DNS will ask the forwarders the answer; if the forwarders don't have the answer then your DNS will try to get the answer by himself |
| 14:32.38 | soup_ | the tldp bind9 HOWTO and official bind9 HOWTO doc don't say anything about it either |
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| 14:33.06 | cockroach | hrm, is anyone aware of a change in recent xorg which might break xinerama? |
| 14:33.13 | foks | if 'forwarder' is set to 'only' then your DNS will ask the forwarders ans that's all, it won't loog |
| 14:33.16 | foks | oups |
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| 14:33.20 | Varis9 | hello |
| 14:33.25 | foks | if 'forwarder' is set to 'only' then your DNS will ask the forwarders ans that's all, it won't look further if the forwarders don't have the answer |
| 14:33.44 | Varis9 | linux-kernel-headers is 2.6 package, right? |
| 14:33.58 | soup_ | foks: ahhh that makes sense |
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| 14:34.09 | bignall | jetscreamer: nothing called genrtc appears to be loaded |
| 14:34.26 | jetscreamer | http://www.google.com/linux?q=debian+boot+floppies&restrict=linux |
| 14:34.49 | jetscreamer | did yo ucheck the alsa-bork factoid? |
| 14:35.03 | soup_ | foks: where did you learn this? The HOWTO docs are too short |
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| 14:35.18 | jetscreamer | !tell bignall -about alsa-bork |
| 14:35.21 | foks | soup_: I read man 5 named.conf :) |
| 14:35.29 | bignall | jetscreamer: no, where would I find it? |
| 14:35.38 | jetscreamer | check the msg from dpkg |
| 14:35.40 | poison_ | is bootfloppies the same as netinst? |
| 14:35.52 | jetscreamer | yes |
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| 14:36.02 | jetscreamer | or in this instance, yes |
| 14:36.06 | poison_ | tnx |
| 14:36.17 | britt | how do i test my smtp server to make sure its not an open relay? |
| 14:36.19 | xzu | i'm looking for termcap-compat for etch, should i just use one from backports? |
| 14:36.28 | britt | whats the MAIL syntax |
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| 14:37.14 | treyh0 | mail from: hacker@linux.com |
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| 14:37.15 | Stevie | 553 Relaying denied |
| 14:37.23 | treyh0 | rcpt to: neat@linux.com |
| 14:37.24 | treyh0 | data |
| 14:37.25 | treyh0 | moo |
| 14:37.25 | treyh0 | . |
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| 14:37.33 | lilian | brasil |
| 14:37.41 | jetscreamer | !br |
| 14:37.41 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:37.43 | bignall | jetscreamer: thanks. those modules are already loaded, and I already have the mixer and alsa-base |
| 14:37.50 | abrotman | !sarge bf |
| 14:37.50 | dpkg | sarge floppies is, like, http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitute your arch for i386 |
| 14:37.53 | adii | can i get access to newsgroups with another hostname (different from mine)? |
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| 14:38.32 | jetscreamer | he needs a raid module that's not in the installer iirc abrotman |
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| 14:38.46 | abrotman | a raid? |
| 14:38.56 | britt | Stevie: does that mean you checked for me? |
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| 14:39.00 | jetscreamer | raid controller or whatever |
| 14:39.04 | abrotman | maybe he needs !sarge 2.6.12 or !sarge 2.6.14 or !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 14:39.16 | jetscreamer | !udev rules |
| 14:39.17 | Varis9 | later |
| 14:39.35 | poison_ | abrotman: I'm using debian-amd64 |
| 14:39.40 | jetscreamer | !udev rules is <reply> file:///usr/share/doc/udev/writing_udev_rules/index.html |
| 14:39.40 | dpkg | jetscreamer: okay |
| 14:39.44 | abrotman | poison_: and? |
| 14:39.53 | abrotman | !sarge 2.6.12 |
| 14:39.53 | dpkg | i heard sarge 2.6.12 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/09/02#d-i-2612 or http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/ for sarge/amd64 |
| 14:39.54 | poison_ | abrotman: and 3w9xxx |
| 14:40.10 | abrotman | poison_: is that module even free?(source free) |
| 14:40.17 | poison_ | it's in the new kernels |
| 14:40.32 | britt | can somebody check to see if i messed up by allowing everyone to abuse my smtp server? |
| 14:40.33 | epsilon | 3ware? |
| 14:40.36 | poison_ | since .12-3 IIRC |
| 14:40.41 | poison_ | yes 3ware |
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| 14:40.47 | epsilon | it's in source |
| 14:40.48 | zamaliphe | how to edit the initrd.img file ???? |
| 14:40.50 | britt | i keep on messing up the syntax or soemthing |
| 14:40.52 | abrotman | poison_: ok .. you can either try that URL above .. or try the etch installer(which won't give you sarge obviously) |
| 14:40.55 | epsilon | dunno if it's free in debian term |
| 14:41.08 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 14:41.15 | poison_ | abrotman: I looked into that iso and I don't find the module in the initrd image :s |
| 14:41.24 | jetscreamer | etch offered me -486 kernels only last time i d/l'd it |
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| 14:41.35 | jetscreamer | thye time before that was ok |
| 14:41.36 | fnor | hi |
| 14:41.37 | epsilon | if unsure, compile the source from kernel.org |
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| 14:42.04 | Andy298 | how do i rename a DIR? |
| 14:42.06 | abrotman | poison_: erm .. ok |
| 14:42.08 | abrotman | Andy298: mv |
| 14:42.09 | jetscreamer | mv Andy298 |
| 14:42.11 | epsilon | mv |
| 14:42.12 | Andy298 | thanks |
| 14:42.12 | abrotman | !tell Andy298 about grounding |
| 14:42.20 | jetscreamer | ooow |
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| 14:43.01 | pablopablo | hello |
| 14:43.10 | zamaliphe | how to extrackt the initrd.img file ???? |
| 14:43.27 | azeem | zamaliphe: one question mark suffices |
| 14:43.27 | epsilon | what exactly is experimental, is it something beyond unstable? |
| 14:43.33 | azeem | zamaliphe: why do you need to extract it? |
| 14:44.02 | pablopablo | I'm spanish |
| 14:44.06 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 14:44.09 | jetscreamer | !es |
| 14:44.09 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:44.30 | jetscreamer | yo no soy spanish |
| 14:44.41 | pablopablo | are you sapanish? |
| 14:44.51 | zamaliphe | to know the list of fils inside it.. |
| 14:45.05 | zamaliphe | just help |
| 14:45.10 | jetscreamer | zamaliphe: you might be able to mount it |
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| 14:45.43 | jetscreamer | no y mi espanol es bueno para flores y barbacoa |
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| 14:45.48 | zamaliphe | no its initrd.img.gz |
| 14:45.55 | pablopablo | hello super user |
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| 14:46.03 | jetscreamer | un zip it first and wtf distro are you using |
| 14:46.16 | zamaliphe | and i try todo that and fild |
| 14:46.29 | jetscreamer | tar xvzf blah.gz |
| 14:46.32 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 14:47.03 | zamaliphe | it is cpio arshife |
| 14:47.24 | foks | tar vzf should be enough no ? |
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| 14:47.29 | foks | oups |
| 14:47.35 | foks | xvz |
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| 14:47.58 | jetscreamer | i dunno i just know what has functioned for me |
| 14:48.06 | jetscreamer | shotgun approach |
| 14:48.07 | Enverex | Is anyone here capable of answering a Filesystem related question? |
| 14:48.11 | jetscreamer | no |
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| 14:48.18 | jetscreamer | out of 794 ppl, no |
| 14:48.25 | jetscreamer | oops 795 |
| 14:48.33 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 14:48.33 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 14:49.01 | Enverex | I asked simply because I'm getting bored of writing out the same question and no-one saying anything |
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| 14:49.15 | zamaliphe | it say |
| 14:49.16 | jetscreamer | try the up-arrow |
| 14:49.17 | zamaliphe | zip: stdin: not in gzip format |
| 14:49.17 | zamaliphe | tar: Child returned status 1 |
| 14:49.23 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 14:49.27 | Enverex | Anyways, Does anyone know how to find out what version of reiser4 a partition is currently using? |
| 14:49.31 | jetscreamer | use a front end |
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| 14:49.47 | cockroach | is there a place where I can get older versions of packages from testing/unstable (no, i don't mean stable)? xorg 6.9 is seriously broken and I'd like to switch back to a 6.8.x version... |
| 14:50.15 | jetscreamer | pdo i think |
| 14:50.23 | stew | cockroach: /msg dpkg sdn |
| 14:50.29 | Andy298 | cp: cannot create regular file |
| 14:50.33 | Andy298 | why do i get that error? |
| 14:50.35 | cockroach | stew: thanks |
| 14:51.06 | Enverex | jetscreamer, see, no-one knows >.< |
| 14:51.07 | poison_ | ok I build the module and when I insmod it I get error -1: invalid module format |
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| 14:51.53 | stew | poison_: you need to build the model with the same version of gcc as the kernel, "cat /proc/version" will tell you what version the currently running kernel was compiled with |
| 14:52.02 | stew | ^model^module |
| 14:52.38 | poison_ | ok tnx |
| 14:52.41 | zamaliphe | gzip: stdin: not in gzip format |
| 14:53.02 | zamaliphe | tar xvzf arabian-splash.gz |
| 14:53.04 | Andy298 | cp: cannot create regular file |
| 14:53.05 | Andy298 | why do i get that error? |
| 14:53.11 | Andy298 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:53.31 | jetscreamer | Enverex: google isn't very helpful is it |
| 14:53.35 | jetscreamer | either |
| 14:53.38 | Enverex | Nope |
| 14:53.44 | stew | zamaliphe: what doesn "file arabian-splash.gz" say it is? |
| 14:53.46 | Enverex | Too much of a broad wording in the question |
| 14:53.47 | jetscreamer | ask hans.. :/ |
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| 14:54.02 | Enverex | Hans? Oh, Hans Reiser, heh, which channel is he in :P |
| 14:54.32 | zamaliphe | it is cpio zip arshif |
| 14:54.52 | Luftzig | ok, I started to check for keycodes with xev, and some keyboard keys return codes (or whatever) as they were mouse buttons |
| 14:55.01 | stew | zamaliphe: have you tried just "gzip -d arabian-splash.gz"? |
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| 14:55.24 | lilian | brasil[ |
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| 14:55.32 | stew | !br |
| 14:55.32 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:56.06 | zamaliphe | also root@arabian:/boot# gzip -d arabian-splash.gz |
| 14:56.07 | zamaliphe | gzip: arabian-splash.gz: not in gzip format |
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| 14:57.21 | Andy298 | why am i getting this error???? |
| 14:57.23 | Andy298 | cp: cannot create regular file |
| 14:57.39 | foks | Andy298: where ? how ? when ? |
| 14:57.47 | poison_ | the only difference is that the stock kernel is build with gcc 3.4.4 and I have only gcc 3.3 |
| 14:57.59 | stew | zamaliphe: have you tried extracting it with cpio? |
| 14:57.59 | Andy298 | cp ./vhcs2_daemon /var/www/vhcs2/daemon/vhcs2_daemon |
| 14:58.04 | Andy298 | cp: cannot create regular file `/var/www/vhcs2/daemon/vhcs2_daemon': Text file busy |
| 14:58.10 | poison_ | could that be the problem? |
| 14:58.23 | foks | what does lsof /var/www/vhcs2/daemon/vhcs2_daemon say ? |
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| 14:58.48 | zamaliphe | stew how to do that how to get a cpio prog |
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| 14:59.37 | stew | zamaliphe: apt-get install cpio |
| 14:59.41 | Daeo | can someone explain to me how to use ssl for remote access so i can use TightVNC |
| 14:59.46 | Andy298 | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| 14:59.46 | Andy298 | vhcs2_dae 1301 root txt REG 3,1 14896 2044059 /var/www/vhcs2/daemon/vhcs2_daemon |
| 15:00.21 | foks | Andy298: root is using that file, then you cannot overwrite it |
| 15:00.39 | zamaliphe | ok stw now how to use it |
| 15:00.40 | Daeo | also, is there a command to flush the ram to free up usage? |
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| 15:00.45 | Andy298 | i am logged in as root (i know i know) so how can i do it? |
| 15:01.15 | petemc | Daeo: nxserver can work over ssh, much better than vnc |
| 15:01.29 | Enverex | Does anyone know how to find out what version of reiser4 a partition is currently using? |
| 15:01.34 | foks | Andy298: stop the daemon, overwrite the file, start the daemon |
| 15:01.38 | Wanderer | Anyone know a tool that'll cause other machines on the same subnet to do a Grat-arp? |
| 15:01.42 | beardy | petemc: vnc works fine over ssh too, doesn't it? |
| 15:01.59 | petemc | beardy: not as well as nxserver |
| 15:02.02 | petemc | but aye |
| 15:02.05 | Daeo | petemc: nxserver would be the server but could i use TightVnc to connect do you think? |
| 15:02.12 | Andy298 | Stopping vhcs2_daemon: No /var/www/vhcs2/daemon/vhcs2_daemon found running; none killed. |
| 15:02.19 | petemc | Daeo: no, you need to use nxclient |
| 15:02.34 | foks | Andy298: what is PID 1301 ? |
| 15:02.45 | stiller | my BCM2157 loses its connection after about 12 hours, running 2.6.15 (tg3 module), checked the cables, switch etc. Also a ping stops after about 4 and only picks up after a couple of seconds. I set both server and switch to 100Mb FD. Any ideas? |
| 15:02.49 | Andy298 | how do i ccheck? |
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| 15:02.52 | Daeo | petemc: i intend on connecting from a windows based pc |
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| 15:03.00 | petemc | Daeo: no problem |
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| 15:03.14 | stiller | (BCM2157 is a Broadcom Gb NIC) |
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| 15:03.57 | Daeo | petemc: so i can use nxserver on here (debian pc) and TightVNC on the windows client, great |
| 15:04.23 | stiller | only odd thing I can find in the logs is: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready |
| 15:04.30 | petemc | Daeo: you do? i thought you needed nxclient... |
| 15:04.54 | Daeo | petemc: well... if i need nxclient, whats the point of using nxserver? lol |
| 15:05.04 | petemc | Daeo: eh? |
| 15:05.07 | foks | Andy298: ps au | grep 1301 |
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| 15:05.44 | Wanderer | noone? |
| 15:05.46 | Daeo | petemc: I was asking how to setup remote access so that i may use TightVNC to connect. |
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| 15:06.07 | Daeo | petemc: and you suggested nxserver |
| 15:06.14 | petemc | Daeo: i know, and i suggested nxserver/nxclient, and thet are technically superior |
| 15:06.17 | zamaliphe | stew i trayed cpio -i < arabian-splash.gz |
| 15:06.17 | zamaliphe | cpio: warning: skipped 6170 bytes of junk |
| 15:06.18 | zamaliphe | cpio: warning: archive header has reverse byte-order |
| 15:06.18 | zamaliphe | cpio: premature end of file |
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| 15:06.30 | jetscreamer | Enverex: maybe http://www.namesys.com/ |
| 15:06.39 | Daeo | petemc: do you know if nxclient works on windows? |
| 15:06.44 | petemc | Daeo: yes, it does |
| 15:06.53 | Daeo | petemc: great, i'll give it a try |
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| 15:07.56 | ziom | hi, I installed linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 and cannot remove the linux-image-2.6.12-386 because of some net/* files belonging to no one how can i purge them? |
| 15:08.35 | zamaliphe | can any one help extracking a cpio fil |
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| 15:08.51 | zamaliphe | cpio -i < arabian-splash.gz |
| 15:08.51 | zamaliphe | cpio: warning: skipped 6170 bytes of junk |
| 15:08.51 | zamaliphe | cpio: warning: archive header has reverse |
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| 15:09.12 | ziom | (I forgot to download the header files for the new kernel...) |
| 15:09.27 | Andy298 | root 22742 0.0 0.2 1820 564 pts/0 S+ 15:14 0:00 grep 1301 |
| 15:09.32 | Andy298 | theres that process |
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| 15:10.12 | stiller | whoops |
| 15:10.18 | nil_hu | Hi all! Q: Where can I find information about packages.debian.org? Why is it offline. What is needed to be online? Which mailling list will tell when it becomes online again? Google not helped. |
| 15:10.44 | foks | nil_hu: did you read the topic ? |
| 15:10.46 | jetscreamer | ooo fix the export file for nfs mounts |
| 15:10.49 | Daeo | petemc: i suppose its not in apt-cache? |
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| 15:10.53 | SlayerXP | nil_hu: try reading the topic |
| 15:11.01 | petemc | Daeo: you have to add an entry to sources.list |
| 15:11.31 | foks | Andy298: this is the PID for the 'grep' you just used... |
| 15:11.33 | Daeo | petemc: sadly i've never done that before, could you kindly tell me how |
| 15:11.42 | Andy298 | foks: how do i stop it? |
| 15:11.54 | jetscreamer | tuv ^^^ |
| 15:12.04 | jetscreamer | ooo fix the export file for nfs mounts |
| 15:12.10 | epsilon | !pdo |
| 15:12.11 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/, or the machine that hosts http://packages.debian.org has been overloaded, a temporary replacement can be found at http://pdo.debian.net |
| 15:12.34 | foks | Andy298: you don't have to stop it, it had a PID while it was greping, now it's gone... |
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| 15:12.57 | nil_hu | epsilon: Thanks! |
| 15:13.08 | ziom | jetscreamer: how can i remove my screwed linux-image-2.6.12-386, i forgot to get the headers for 2.6.15 and am running now on this version |
| 15:13.21 | bodq | how would I transfer debian DVD iso images on top of fat32 FS? |
| 15:13.48 | nil_hu | foks, SlayerXP: Eh! Found it! :-) Sorry! |
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| 15:14.26 | foks | np |
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| 15:14.51 | bodq | my problem is that fst32 won't allow a file larger that 2gb |
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| 15:15.30 | Daeo | petemc: what source would i add? any one at all? |
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| 15:15.43 | giupy | hi all |
| 15:15.48 | jetscreamer | ziom apt-get remove |
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| 15:16.15 | ziom | well jetscreamer, ok but it will not go because of some unkown files like ? ? ? net/* |
| 15:16.29 | jetscreamer | bodq use rar and break it up iinto little pieces |
| 15:16.38 | jetscreamer | zip does it also but rar is neater i think |
| 15:17.07 | bodq | jetscreamer: good idea! thanks |
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| 15:17.18 | jetscreamer | ziom i 'think' that just those portions don't get removed |
| 15:17.33 | jetscreamer | after you remove it and maybe reboot, just rm -R |
| 15:17.40 | Andy298 | foks: i still can't cp tho? |
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| 15:18.14 | giupy | anyone with sony vaio c1? i would like to know if transmeta crusoe cpu is seen good under debian/linux... |
| 15:18.34 | Daeo | petemc: what source would i add? |
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| 15:18.58 | ziom | jetscreamer: well it does not go.. i cannot remove them by any means.. i cannot do anything usefull on the image-2.6.12-386 and cannot remove it from 2.6.15-686, apt-get does not help it tells it cannot remove them.. |
| 15:19.20 | Andy298 | ?? |
| 15:19.23 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 15:19.23 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
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| 15:19.36 | zamaliphe | how to mount init file |
| 15:20.03 | ziom | (i have no headers for 2.6.15 that why he dont want to let 2.6.12 go as far as i interpret it) |
| 15:20.10 | jetscreamer | ziom: i may know what you mean. i once installed linux-image-2.6-k7.(or so). some metapackage |
| 15:20.21 | jetscreamer | was totally uninstallable |
| 15:20.21 | ziom | exactly |
| 15:20.39 | Andy298 | foks: i still can't cp tho? |
| 15:20.42 | jetscreamer | i now only instal the ones with the long versions |
| 15:20.44 | ziom | well what's the solution, jetscreamer ? |
| 15:20.47 | jetscreamer | heh |
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| 15:20.55 | jetscreamer | i erased the whole damn partition... |
| 15:20.59 | ziom | omg |
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| 15:21.04 | ziom | :( |
| 15:21.04 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 15:21.08 | jetscreamer | i have a backup though |
| 15:21.43 | ziom | well ok i have 7 partitions but /etc and /boot and /lib is on one... |
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| 15:21.53 | ziom | that means installing all progs again... |
| 15:21.59 | jetscreamer | !reinstall |
| 15:21.59 | dpkg | [reinstall] COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 15:22.04 | Silent_al | :) |
| 15:22.05 | jetscreamer | the second one |
| 15:22.15 | poison_ | I've build a module and when I insmod it into the kernel I get module format not supported although the version is identical to /proc/version and the gcc is the same version |
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| 15:22.28 | Silent_al | hello , what up? |
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| 15:22.57 | jetscreamer | ziom: or you can just leave the stupid thing there |
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| 15:23.01 | jetscreamer | it won't hurt |
| 15:23.17 | ziom | well so how do i tell apt to ignore it? |
| 15:23.26 | Andy298 | foks??? |
| 15:23.29 | jetscreamer | maybe put it on hold, not sure |
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| 15:24.15 | irene | Hello? World. |
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| 15:24.18 | ziom | ok thx jetscreamer |
| 15:24.39 | jetscreamer | ok etch-ionstaller borks out my box with udev+2.6, maybe i'll try sarge :( |
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| 15:25.04 | estevao | hi all |
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| 15:25.16 | irene | anyone using thinkpad? |
| 15:25.18 | yos87 | hi |
| 15:25.19 | estevao | i'm having problems with squid in debian sarge... |
| 15:25.19 | irene | I need help.. |
| 15:25.37 | streuner | !tell irene about laptops |
| 15:25.43 | yos87 | how can I make the right side bar as this picture |
| 15:25.43 | yos87 | http://www.schnitzer.at/dominik/debian-shot.png |
| 15:26.03 | estevao | when i change any configuration in squid.conf, squid crashs... |
| 15:26.32 | estevao | then I need to erase manually the cache dirs, and the run squid -z to recreate squid's cache |
| 15:26.36 | estevao | some idea? |
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| 15:27.04 | streuner | yos87: upper right is gnome-panel, the other stuff is gdesklets |
| 15:27.08 | estevao | after that, squid works fine... |
| 15:27.21 | Andy298 | cp: cannot create regular file `/var/www/vhcs2/daemon/vhcs2_daemon': Text file busy |
| 15:27.39 | yos87 | streuner: yea, the right one I like it, witch tell you the free space |
| 15:27.46 | yos87 | streuner: how to make it |
| 15:27.46 | jetscreamer | is that a dir or a file |
| 15:27.58 | streuner | yos87: run gdesklets? |
| 15:28.05 | streuner | !info gdesklets |
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| 15:28.07 | dpkg | gdesklets: (Architecture for desktop applets), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.35.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 463 kB, Installed size: 2444 kB |
| 15:28.14 | jetscreamer | !info gkrellem |
| 15:28.21 | jetscreamer | ok i suck |
| 15:28.36 | streuner | yos87: install gdesklets and gdesklets-common, run nautilus and activate what you need |
| 15:28.38 | Estes2 | Hi everyone, i need help with nfs, i often get my share that hangs for i dono which reason, and it totaly get stuck the comps relying on the share... anyone please ? |
| 15:28.54 | estevao | someone has problem with squid in debian sarge? |
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| 15:29.03 | riftman | estevao, do you have anything in the logs? |
| 15:29.08 | irene | streuner |
| 15:29.12 | irene | sorry |
| 15:29.25 | irene | I talked to Bot :( |
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| 15:29.36 | irene | !streuner |
| 15:29.36 | dpkg | i love him |
| 15:29.39 | estevao | riftman when I run squid -X -N, squid is trying to become a proxy user, but it cant... |
| 15:30.12 | irene | !tell streuner |
| 15:30.15 | fatal_ | Estes2: having network problems? try mounting with option "soft" .... |
| 15:30.27 | streuner | irene: use /msg dpkg foo, please. |
| 15:30.33 | Estes2 | fatal_, soft ? |
| 15:30.42 | Estes2 | humm, ko, will give it a try |
| 15:30.45 | Estes2 | ok * |
| 15:30.50 | foks | Andy298: sorry I was away, but if you can't find what process is using the file I can't help you anyway |
| 15:31.09 | fatal_ | Estes2: soft means to give up if writing to the nfs share isn't possible... the default (hard) is to continue trying until it succeds (which might never happen). |
| 15:31.10 | Andy298 | how do i find out foks? :( |
| 15:31.15 | riftman | estevao, do you have the user proxy created? |
| 15:31.38 | yos87 | streuner: gdesklet-common: could not fine package name |
| 15:31.57 | estevao | riftman yep |
| 15:31.57 | yos87 | streuner: but gdesklet is done |
| 15:31.58 | Estes2 | fatal_, hum, will try, ok |
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| 15:32.07 | streuner | gdesklets-data - Applets for gdesklets |
| 15:32.21 | Silent_al | !:) |
| 15:32.21 | dpkg | oh, so nice to see you smile! |
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| 15:32.43 | estevao | riftman, squid simply doesnt start anymore... unless I erase the cache dir manually, and create it again with squid -z |
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| 15:33.01 | foks | Andy298: using lsof, as I told you |
| 15:33.06 | estevao | riftman it happened in 3 servers... :/ |
| 15:33.14 | Andy298 | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| 15:33.14 | Andy298 | vhcs2_dae 1301 root txt REG 3,1 14896 2044059 /var/www/vhcs2/daemon/vhcs2_daemon |
| 15:33.41 | foks | Andy298: use pkill -9 1301 |
| 15:33.50 | yos87 | streuner: when I run anutlis I had : authrazation fail, an it open a window |
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| 15:34.23 | stew | estevao: have you checked the bts? |
| 15:34.36 | riftman | estevao, in every change of the config file it doesnt start anymore? |
| 15:35.17 | estevao | riftman, in some changes |
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| 15:35.38 | estevao | riftman normally related to squid_ldap_group |
| 15:35.44 | estevao | and ldap_auth |
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| 15:35.57 | estevao | stew whats bts? |
| 15:36.01 | stew | !bts |
| 15:36.01 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 15:36.36 | riftman | estevao, check for bugs related to squid ldap |
| 15:37.02 | estevao | riftman, this problem happens too in a server without squid_ldap_group |
| 15:37.09 | riftman | estevao, i have a version of squid without ldap support running and no problems |
| 15:37.31 | estevao | riftman hmm |
| 15:37.55 | riftman | estevao, are you running etch ? |
| 15:38.06 | estevao | riftman no... |
| 15:38.53 | riftman | estevao, the version of my deb for squid is 2.5.12-3 |
| 15:39.00 | estevao | let me check |
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| 15:39.33 | estevao | my version is 2.5.9-10sarge2 |
| 15:39.58 | estevao | riftman what version of debian r u using? |
| 15:40.12 | riftman | estevao, tri to upgrade your system first, i'm running etch (testing) |
| 15:40.18 | Estes2 | fatal_, yes, but... how unrealibale this will be ? |
| 15:40.21 | stew | !info squid stable |
| 15:40.24 | Estes2 | unreliable * |
| 15:40.31 | dpkg | squid: (Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache)), section web, is optional. Version: 2.5.9-10sarge2 (sarge), Packaged size: 749 kB, Installed size: 2024 kB |
| 15:40.39 | stew | riftman: he has the latest |
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| 15:41.15 | estevao | riftman very strange |
| 15:41.37 | estevao | this problem happens in three diferent servers |
| 15:41.53 | riftman | estevao, you cant getent passwd and recive the ldap squid user? |
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| 15:42.08 | riftman | estevao, sorry cant=can |
| 15:42.08 | JohnGH | Are there any benefits / drawbacks of using ALSA vs OSS - any opinions? (am I right in noticing that BMP is stalling when the machine is busy with Firefox on ALSA when I don't remember it doing that with OSS?) |
| 15:42.20 | Andy298 | foks: i have killed it |
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| 15:43.02 | JohnGH | BTW: I've already read http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=01/03/06/179255&mode=thread |
| 15:43.22 | foks | Andy298: try to cp now |
| 15:43.34 | Estes2 | fatal_, the soft option didn't fix it |
| 15:43.37 | Andy298 | cp: cannot create regular file `/var/www/vhcs2/daemon/vhcs2_daemon': Text file busy |
| 15:43.43 | Estes2 | i think i might move snb fs |
| 15:43.46 | foks | ôO |
| 15:43.47 | Estes2 | smb * |
| 15:44.42 | kwiat | hi there, i need help - everytime i boot up breezy 64 i'm getting (the only) failure of "mount local filesystems". my system is completely usable but doesnt displays the windows partition and an fat32 file exchange partition (both arranged before). do you have an idea? |
| 15:44.50 | Andy298 | foks: same error! |
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| 15:45.02 | thingfish | kwiat: #ubuntu |
| 15:45.10 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 15:45.11 | dpkg | it has been said that popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 15:45.32 | kwiat | thingfish, sorry |
| 15:45.35 | kwiat | #ubuntu |
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| 15:47.44 | bananafly | anyone here familiar with the dfsee tool? |
| 15:47.46 | estevao | exit |
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| 15:48.50 | Enverex | Someone replied to me earlier, can someone repeat it or can they repeat it please? |
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| 15:49.18 | Andy298 | foks: any more ideas? |
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| 15:49.37 | foks | Andy298: no, not yet, sorry |
| 15:49.50 | Andy298 | hmm - well any clues why i get the error? |
| 15:49.59 | Andy298 | webserver:~/mydir/tools/daemon# cp ./vhcs2_daemon /var/www/vhcs2/daemon/vhcs2_daemon |
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| 15:49.59 | Andy298 | cp: cannot create regular file `/var/www/vhcs2/daemon/vhcs2_daemon': Text file busy |
| 15:50.07 | buht-w | anyone having problems with xorg on etch and 2.6.15? I get a weird error on starting X now: Fatal Server Error: pciReadWord: Alignment error: Cannot read 16 bits at offset 73 |
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| 15:50.48 | danix | hi, in wich repository i can find kernel-image-2.6.14 for sid? |
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| 15:50.59 | sdakota | Hi |
| 15:51.07 | Luftzig | some of my keyboard keys are identified by xev as mouse buttons. it's a Logitech Internet Navigator |
| 15:51.08 | sdakota | I made a daemon in perl... |
| 15:51.19 | sdakota | now I want it to start at system boot, and exit at system shutdown |
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| 15:51.31 | sdakota | is tehre an easy way for that? |
| 15:51.33 | sdakota | there* |
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| 15:51.58 | foks | Andy298: is that a local file or over nfs ? |
| 15:52.08 | poison_ | Kernel version too old. initramfs-tools requires at least 2.6.12. |
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| 15:52.18 | oigres | I've upgraded to kernel 2.6.15, purged hotplug and udev is taking care of everything now. Problem is that I get many, many udev-event errors while booting. The errors are of the kind: udev-event[3027]: run_program: exec of program '/lib/udev...'. Many things do not work now! What might be the problem? |
| 15:52.19 | poison_ | where did mkinitrd go to? |
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| 15:52.33 | Daeo | got a nice hard question here, is there any way to free up ram on a linux system after turning off unneeded processes? i've gone down to nothing running at all, and i still have my ram maxed out, almost like its not flushing clean after each process kill |
| 15:52.51 | riftman | sdakota, man update-rc.d |
| 15:52.51 | sdakota | okay, i'll put the daemon in boot.start and i'll find another file to quit it again. |
| 15:52.57 | sdakota | oh ok, riftman, thanks |
| 15:52.59 | threat | Daedalus_, ? |
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| 15:53.02 | threat | Daeo, ? |
| 15:53.04 | foks | Daeo: what does 'free' say ? |
| 15:53.09 | MikePer | sdakota: write a start and kill script in /etc/init.d and link it into the runlevel directory of your choice |
| 15:53.15 | Daeo | 22000k |
| 15:53.19 | Daeo | out of 512MB |
| 15:53.24 | Gathond | Daeo: all of it plaese |
| 15:53.29 | threat | Daeo, ok, you want your RAM completly used, otherwise whats the point of buying more of it? |
| 15:53.34 | sdakota | daeo, that's not much |
| 15:53.36 | foks | Daeo: is that for the cache ? |
| 15:53.40 | threat | Daeo, RAM is supposed to be used! |
| 15:53.47 | threat | Daeo, otherwise you are wasting your money |
| 15:53.48 | Gathond | Daeo: Im betting you are the number that includes all cache and buffers |
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| 15:53.57 | sdakota | daeo, 22000 k is 22 mb, and 22 mb of 512 mb isn't much. |
| 15:54.09 | Daeo | exactly |
| 15:54.20 | threat | Daeo, thats cool |
| 15:54.21 | sdakota | MikePer, the first part is exactly what I did. |
| 15:54.22 | Daeo | i dont think i should be eating up this much ram and not doing anything |
| 15:54.23 | threat | Daeo, relax |
| 15:54.24 | sdakota | :-) |
| 15:54.29 | petemc | !tell Daeo about free ram |
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| 15:54.31 | threat | Daeo, this much RAM? your an idiot! |
| 15:54.40 | petemc | threat: easy not |
| 15:54.42 | petemc | now |
| 15:54.44 | sdakota | Daeo: The kernel is taking the 22 mb, probably. |
| 15:54.51 | Gathond | Daeo: is it the number in the first or second line of frees output? |
| 15:54.54 | MikePer | sdakota: then you missed the second part :) |
| 15:54.57 | Luftzig | anyone has an idea? |
| 15:54.57 | sdakota | daeo, the kernel and some essential parts. |
| 15:54.59 | threat | petemc, ok |
| 15:55.04 | Daeo | hold on let me get a top copy |
| 15:55.07 | sdakota | MikePer, Yep :-) |
| 15:55.18 | Daeo | top - 09:52:52 up 1:49, 2 users, load average: 0.27, 0.28, 0.27 |
| 15:55.18 | Daeo | Tasks: 112 total, 2 running, 110 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie |
| 15:55.19 | Daeo | Cpu(s): 18.8% user, 2.6% system, 0.0% nice, 78.6% idle |
| 15:55.19 | Gathond | Daeo: not top please, free |
| 15:55.19 | Daeo | Mem: 516368k total, 494540k used, 21828k free, 67900k buffers |
| 15:55.19 | Daeo | Swap: 835340k total, 296k used, 835044k free, 182648k cached |
| 15:55.19 | sdakota | Daeo, remember, pastebin, not channel |
| 15:55.21 | sdakota | Argh |
| 15:55.24 | sdakota | Ugh. |
| 15:55.35 | sdakota | Isn't he kicked? |
| 15:55.50 | sdakota | debhelper has a bad day. |
| 15:55.52 | danix | anyone knows in wich repo i can find latest kernel images? |
| 15:55.54 | Gathond | Daeo: yes, so you have 240 MB used for cache and buffers |
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| 15:56.12 | cisse | danix: unstable |
| 15:56.17 | Gathond | Daeo: that memory is essentially free, in that its just used for cache and buffering until something better comes along |
| 15:56.22 | threat | Daeo, what is RAM used for? |
| 15:56.36 | threat | Daeo, what is the purpose of RAM? |
| 15:56.42 | Daeo | RAM suppose to be use for currently running processes |
| 15:56.50 | Daeo | not ones i close |
| 15:56.54 | Gathond | Daeo: only if they actually need it |
| 15:57.03 | danix | cisee, already using unstable |
| 15:57.03 | Daeo | alright |
| 15:57.09 | poison_ | is there anybody who knows where I can get mkinitrd because it seems to be replaced with initramfs but initramfs won't make an initrd for my kernel, it says I need at least 2.6.12, and I have 2.4.32 |
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| 15:57.12 | Chameleon22 | hi all |
| 15:57.13 | danix | run apt-get update and latest is 2.6.8 here |
| 15:57.14 | Gathond | Daeo: its cache, its files from the drive that is in memory to speed stuff up |
| 15:57.16 | bananafly | Is there anyone who knows how to fix partition tables in DFSee? |
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| 15:57.20 | riot | hi. |
| 15:57.21 | Gathond | Daeo: its a good thing |
| 15:57.40 | Chameleon22 | about to install Debian, havent used it in a whle so out of touch with version numbers. Whats the current name for testing and unstable releases? |
| 15:57.56 | riot | can anyone check the dependencies on "beagle"? Its a gnome-package but wants to install lots'o'stuff from kde.. (beagle is in sid, only, afaik) |
| 15:58.03 | stew | Chameleon22: http://debian.org/releasese |
| 15:58.11 | riot | ..maybe its just my package-configuration here |
| 15:58.12 | stew | err http://debian.org/releases |
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| 15:58.31 | Daeo | great, i got worried after watching resources go from green to red when monitoring my server via phpsysinfo |
| 15:58.34 | abrotman | !d-i Chameleon22 |
| 15:58.35 | dpkg | Chameleon22, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 15:59.11 | cisse | hrm sooo who is leet enough to get Autoversioning working with apache2 and svn ? |
| 15:59.52 | riot | is there a nice way to analyze dependencies? esp. on a "what if i'd install $package"-basis? |
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| 16:00.06 | Daeo | thanks for the info guys |
| 16:00.14 | poison_ | what's wrong with initrd-tools? I do an mkinitrd and I get no error and no output file :s |
| 16:00.35 | Chameleon22 | if i recall correctly, to install Sid I need to install Etch and then updated sources.list , re-run apt and update, correct? |
| 16:01.03 | MikePer | poison_: same here |
| 16:01.20 | poison_ | MikePer: do you know how to fix it? |
| 16:01.29 | MikePer | riot: you can use apt-get install with the -s (simulate) option to see what would be installed |
| 16:01.44 | MikePer | poison_: no, that's why I'm here :) |
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| 16:02.14 | poison_ | MikePer: I saw that theres mkinitramfs but it's not the same I guess because it needs kernel 2.6.12 or higher :s |
| 16:02.26 | sdakota | Okay, the init script uses the 'start', 'stop' and 'reload' arguments and has a symlink to it in /etc/init.d and a symlink to that in /etc/rc2.d ... will it start and stop it automatically now? |
| 16:02.48 | sdakota | `runlevel` returns N 2, so I think it has to be placed in /etc/rc2.d |
| 16:02.50 | riot | MikePer: ah, thats somewhat helpful already, but how can i find out, by which dependency a specific package has to be installed? |
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| 16:04.02 | cisse | Chameleon22: vice versa |
| 16:04.22 | poison_ | MikePer: I found it I think: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/07/msg00453.html |
| 16:04.38 | poison_ | MikePer: give an absolute path with -o and it works |
| 16:05.20 | riot | i can't stand a gnome package to install all kde-stuff :( |
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| 16:07.37 | sdakota | Right? |
| 16:07.41 | sdakota | (look above) |
| 16:07.57 | MikePer | poison_: right! strange though |
| 16:09.04 | poison_ | indeed MikePer |
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| 16:09.09 | MikePer | poison_: it's understandable though if mkinitrd changed the dir to the temp dir and writes the image there if no path is given... |
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| 16:10.35 | sdakota | Okay, I used rc-update.d and it seems to work. |
| 16:10.36 | sdakota | :-D |
| 16:11.49 | coolpix | lo |
| 16:11.50 | poison_ | MikePer: that makes sense |
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| 16:15.26 | MikePer | riot: the other way, huh? you can always have a look in aptitude |
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| 16:16.09 | S4nD3r | I have a problem... Is possible to have firewall+proxy+NIS server+NFS server+Samba Server, all together in the same PC ??? |
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| 16:16.34 | buht-w | i followed instructions to make kpkg and what not to install my new kernel /config with debian packages of my kernel. since reboot, i cant start X i get a pciReadError: alignment error... is it a compiler problem? |
| 16:16.35 | petemc | S4nD3r: thats a problem? yes |
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| 16:17.32 | jetscreamer | buht-w: my guess is that you need to redo the make menuconfig and recompile |
| 16:17.37 | S4nD3r | My problem is, when I starts my firewall, many site is not acessible anymore |
| 16:17.56 | petemc | S4nD3r: your firewall isnt properly configured, then |
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| 16:18.01 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 16:18.06 | S4nD3r | petemc, I know |
| 16:18.08 | buht-w | jetscreamer, ok. do you know of a good website reference for the "debian" way to load a new kernel and recompile it? i tried a couple which seemed to work but broke X |
| 16:18.55 | jetscreamer | nvidia or ati |
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| 16:19.27 | jetscreamer | aka what module do you use for the xserver |
| 16:19.52 | jetscreamer | or, what vid card |
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| 16:20.21 | jetscreamer | if the kernel loads and the os boots, it's maybe not the kernel |
| 16:20.21 | buht-w | is there a recommended kernel install directions website for debian? |
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| 16:20.46 | thingfish | !tell buht-w about make-kpkg |
| 16:21.00 | S4nD3r | petemc, I just dont know which is the problem in my firewall |
| 16:21.42 | buht-w | ok, thanks thingfish |
| 16:21.49 | jetscreamer | which 'firewall', or are you doing iptable rules |
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| 16:21.54 | petemc | S4nD3r: i wouldnt know where to begin to try and help you, best advice would be to read up on iptables, assuming thats what you use |
| 16:21.58 | buht-w | i am not sure how it will fix X but ill try it, it seemed to break X :) |
| 16:22.11 | jetscreamer | buht-w: what vid card |
| 16:22.12 | S4nD3r | Yes, is iptables |
| 16:22.29 | buht-w | jetscreamer, matrox parhelia |
| 16:22.38 | thingfish | you're welcome, buht-w. It's really quite easy. Look for a /usr/share/doc/make-kpkg/README after installing make-kpkg. (At least that's where I remember the docs being.) |
| 16:23.00 | buht-w | jetscreamer, it worked great, then i followed the debian kernel way, and rebooted and now i get fatal errors on starting X pciReadError (though im AGP) |
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| 16:23.11 | thingfish | eww, don't know that one. is that an old vidcard, buht-w? |
| 16:23.24 | buht-w | about a year or 2 |
| 16:23.26 | thingfish | ah |
| 16:23.31 | buht-w | worked fine before :( |
| 16:23.49 | thingfish | buht-w: did you do the .config yourself? |
| 16:24.03 | S4nD3r | http://pastebin.com/559723 Here is my script |
| 16:24.09 | buht-w | yes in the make menuconfig i did some tweaking but only removing unneeded modules and what not |
| 16:24.18 | thingfish | well there you have it. |
| 16:24.29 | jetscreamer | one was really needed... |
| 16:24.33 | jetscreamer | or more |
| 16:24.34 | buht-w | there is only so much related to video cards |
| 16:24.36 | thingfish | I suspect your error is in the "whatnot". |
| 16:24.42 | buht-w | i selected modules for all that apply to my vid card |
| 16:24.51 | jetscreamer | !oops |
| 16:24.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, oops is "aw damn, i messesd up and deleted <entry>", or see ksymoops |
| 16:24.52 | thingfish | well who knows then. |
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| 16:25.01 | buht-w | google matches show that the error is related ot the compiler on most distros |
| 16:25.29 | jetscreamer | buht-w: does a stock kernel function? |
| 16:25.41 | buht-w | yeah but they were "stable" |
| 16:25.43 | buht-w | this is "testing" |
| 16:26.15 | jetscreamer | is a kernel you get via apt-get from debian sources functional? |
| 16:27.08 | jetscreamer | my question is, does it only NOT work when you compile it |
| 16:27.38 | bananafly | is there anyone who knows anything about dfsee? |
| 16:27.42 | buht-w | when i get the kernel from apt-get does it autoconfig or something based on loaded devices? |
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| 16:27.51 | horyfilipe | curiosity: if i have net1 from provider X and net2 from provider Y. Assuming I have a server with IP x.x.x.x provided by provider X, how can I configure my network a way that if provider X goes down, still I can go through provider Y without having to change IP? |
| 16:28.00 | buht-w | jetscreamer are you proposing i apt-get the kernel and compile right off the bat? |
| 16:28.08 | jetscreamer | udev & hotplug if i understood |
| 16:28.29 | jetscreamer | buht-w: no i'm asking if the stock debian kernels that you apt-get work |
| 16:28.56 | jlj_ | I built a new kernel which didnt produce any initrd-file, and removed the initrd-line from lilo.conf, however the system won't boot. Is there something else that has to be done in order to disable initrd-use during boot? |
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| 16:29.01 | IlProfeta | hello |
| 16:29.06 | jetscreamer | in gutter english, i'm asking if it only fucks up when you fuck with it |
| 16:29.18 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 16:29.23 | buht-w | jetscreamer, this is one of them but i went through and added support for a nic, and some frame buffers |
| 16:29.46 | jetscreamer | would that be a yes or a no |
| 16:29.47 | foks | horyfilipe: if provider X != provider Y; then do BGP |
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| 16:30.03 | buht-w | jetscreamer, i havent tried it straight up after download, i thought i had to check its config no matter what, i didnt know it comes ready to go somehow by checking my hardware |
| 16:30.18 | buht-w | jetscreamer so that is yes, ive only tried my version of the kernel |
| 16:30.25 | jonathan` | whats the name of the default window manager for gnome? |
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| 16:30.29 | jetscreamer | one or zero, true or false, yes or no, off or on... |
| 16:30.31 | jetscreamer | ahhh |
| 16:30.33 | yassine | hi everyone |
| 16:30.34 | buht-w | what throws me off, is every google match on the issue says its a compiler error |
| 16:30.44 | horyfilipe | foks yes, it is !=.. BGP..... hmmm :/ what bugs me is: how can I be still able to use ip x.x.x.x from provider X if I will be using the provider Y when X goes down? |
| 16:30.48 | thingfish | jonathan` metacity |
| 16:31.13 | jetscreamer | well you have to approach these things logically |
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| 16:31.18 | yassine | is there a way to install debian on a remote box ? where linux (other flavour) is already installed ? |
| 16:31.24 | buht-w | is there some setting that differentiates AGP from PCI? because the error thrown is a pciReadError |
| 16:31.27 | cisse | horyfilipe: you can't |
| 16:31.31 | jetscreamer | start from a .config that functions |
| 16:31.38 | jetscreamer | cp one from /boot |
| 16:31.42 | buht-w | ok |
| 16:31.49 | horyfilipe | cisse can't? isnt this way datacenters work?? when they have multiple providers |
| 16:32.03 | jetscreamer | make clean && make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --targets |
| 16:32.20 | buht-w | they new kernels backwards compatible to older kernel .config files? |
| 16:32.28 | zamaliphe | ok now plees help to zip file as "cpio" |
| 16:32.39 | jetscreamer | y9ou can make oldconfig |
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| 16:32.47 | jetscreamer | instead of menuconfig |
| 16:32.54 | cisse | horyfilipe: well datacenters have a lot more clout, if you can get an agreement between provides to fail to the same ip perhaps... i'm not too familiar with spanning tree stuff like that, what are you looking to do ? |
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| 16:32.59 | adri | exit |
| 16:33.00 | foks | horyfilipe: datacenters have expensive hardware for that kind of problem ;) |
| 16:33.05 | IlProfeta | what does --target do |
| 16:33.14 | buht-w | jetscreamer so : cp /boot/config-2.6.14 ./.config ? |
| 16:33.19 | buht-w | and go from there |
| 16:33.31 | jetscreamer | shows you a list of possible targets, such as make-kpkg kernel_image, or build_package |
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| 16:33.34 | jetscreamer | and what they do |
| 16:33.41 | IlProfeta | ah ok, thank you |
| 16:33.42 | zamaliphe | i have extrack the file using cpio -i < message |
| 16:33.51 | horyfilipe | what bugs my mind is just about how to keep using down-provider IP with backup-provider net... i am looking to start a lil DC.. |
| 16:34.01 | jetscreamer | man kernel-pkg.conf also |
| 16:34.03 | StyXman | has anyone use dotdeb's php packages? I want to know if they have good quality or if they present any problems... any comment about them... anything :) |
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| 16:34.14 | zamaliphe | how to rezip it |
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| 16:34.20 | buht-w | jetscreamer can i just make menuconfig --source=/.config.old or something like that? |
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| 16:34.29 | jetscreamer | make oldconfig |
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| 16:34.40 | foks | horyfilipe: that is what BGP is for, look at some docs and you'll understand that easily |
| 16:34.47 | buht-w | make oldconfig is console based |
| 16:34.49 | horyfilipe | thanks foks :) |
| 16:34.56 | buht-w | if i just copy the .config file over, can i just compile it ? |
| 16:35.00 | jetscreamer | not sure if you need the gui, beyond me.. play with it |
| 16:35.01 | pepo | i am try to connect to my vncserver and i get this error -------> RFB 003.003 |
| 16:35.08 | maestro_black | hi, does anyone know if its possible to get x.org's xfree onto debian, and how hard it is to do so |
| 16:35.08 | foks | horyfilipe: you're welcome (look at OSPF docs as well ;) |
| 16:35.27 | horyfilipe | just a final question: it would need agreement between the 2 providers, right? |
| 16:35.34 | jetscreamer | i always just use menuconfig (xconfig&gconfig are kinda bloated imo btw) |
| 16:35.47 | foks | horyfilipe: between you and both providers |
| 16:35.59 | horyfilipe | nice, its clean now! |
| 16:36.03 | cisse | horyfilipe: it would probably be easiest to write a script to monitor the status of each line and switch the DNS entries for your servers if one of the links goes down |
| 16:36.05 | jetscreamer | menuconfig wil import stuff, but i don't know what a large version mismatch might do.. |
| 16:36.07 | zamaliphe | any help with cpio ???? |
| 16:36.12 | StyXman | buht-w: it just asks the new questions, not that you need to reconfigure the whole kernel. and most of the time the answer is simply `no´. |
| 16:36.13 | fluxdude | I've just got 2 new servers and want to stress test them, any suggestions? |
| 16:36.17 | cisse | zamaliphe: ask a specific question |
| 16:36.26 | cisse | fluxdude: what do they do ? |
| 16:36.27 | zamaliphe | i have extrack the file using cpio -i < message |
| 16:36.33 | jetscreamer | you can just cp the config and it will do it's thing |
| 16:36.40 | StyXman | maestro_black: see topic |
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| 16:37.01 | buht-w | would a make menuconfig, load alternate config file, and then save config file be good enough? then recompile? |
| 16:37.13 | zamaliphe | and edit it now i need to zip it how to do that??? |
| 16:37.19 | jetscreamer | and in debian, i've seen it take the `uname -r` config when the source is virgin |
| 16:37.36 | jetscreamer | man zip |
| 16:37.50 | StyXman | buht-w: the suggested way is via oldconfig |
| 16:37.56 | jetscreamer | yep |
| 16:38.22 | maestro_black | sry, kinda new to debian |
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| 16:38.50 | buht-w | ok |
| 16:39.09 | jonathan` | how do you get back into the gui login from the text prompt in debian? |
| 16:39.16 | jetscreamer | alt-f7 |
| 16:39.22 | buht-w | StyXman, so copy the old config to the source dir as .config? then make oldconfig? |
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| 16:39.36 | wpostma_ | isn't it ctrl+alt+f7 ? |
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| 16:39.46 | jetscreamer | you need the ctrl key when you're in the gui |
| 16:39.49 | jonathan` | that got me into the text prompt from the gui login |
| 16:39.58 | jonathan` | its not getting me back into the gui though |
| 16:40.10 | wpostma_ | jonathaN, is xdm or gdm or kdm running? |
| 16:40.11 | c4_4e | mmhhh... my machine can't resolv dns, in my /etc/resolv.conf are: 200.42.0.108 200.42.0.109 , what else do i have to look for? (how do i make sure to delete all ipteables rules?) |
| 16:40.13 | jetscreamer | you can try f5 |
| 16:40.18 | jonathan` | gdm |
| 16:40.26 | jetscreamer | but if it works you would be exposed |
| 16:40.44 | wpostma_ | if you hit ctrl-alt-f7 and virtual console 7 had an xserver running, you should see it. You could try ctrl-alt-F1 through F7 and see if it's in a different VC. |
| 16:41.02 | jetscreamer | left alt |
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| 16:41.13 | jonathan` | ahh thats why |
| 16:41.14 | jonathan` | has to be left |
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| 16:41.33 | wpostma_ | left alt+left ctrl+F# ? |
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| 16:41.50 | jetscreamer | the alt key on the left-hand side |
| 16:41.54 | jonathan` | just left alt and F7 to get back into gui |
| 16:42.08 | wpostma_ | suitably obscure key-stroke isn't it? |
| 16:42.15 | jonathan` | hmm.. for some reason when I login into gdm it just goes to a blank debian screen after I login |
| 16:42.29 | jonathan` | it stops trying to load after it goes to load window manager and it just sits on a blank desktop with the debian background |
| 16:42.29 | BrenIII | could anyone help me figure out how to install sarge with sata? I can't seem to get it loaded...the sata controler looks to be a intel-ich7r |
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| 16:43.29 | jetscreamer | might not be suported BrenIII you check the hw list on debian.org ? you might need etch installer |
| 16:43.33 | petemc | BrenIII: there are sarge installers with recent kernels, they would probably work for you |
| 16:43.37 | jetscreamer | ahh |
| 16:43.40 | jetscreamer | ^^ |
| 16:43.42 | cisse | BrenIII: try booting linux26 it has better sata handling abilities |
| 16:44.00 | BrenIII | ya, I tried that...didn't work |
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| 16:44.13 | jonathan` | are there any other window managers that gdm can use? |
| 16:44.32 | BrenIII | petemc: where? |
| 16:44.34 | epsilon | are /etc/shadow- passwd- group- just 1:1 backup files? |
| 16:44.41 | c4_4e | ouch i've forgot the 'nameserver' thing |
| 16:44.44 | jetscreamer | jonathan`: you could try seeing if gnome is installed properly, or enough of it |
| 16:44.52 | jetscreamer | bind9 ? |
| 16:45.05 | c4_4e | how do i make sure to delete ALL my iptables and put all to accept policy? |
| 16:45.08 | petemc | BrenIII: dunno offhand, google |
| 16:45.09 | jetscreamer | jonathan`: gnome uses metacity by default |
| 16:45.15 | c4_4e | iptables -F ? |
| 16:45.20 | jonathan` | jetscreamer, apt-get says i have all the latest stuff |
| 16:45.21 | jetscreamer | and used to use sawfish |
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| 16:45.49 | darkcmd | checking out emacs cvs |
| 16:46.01 | jetscreamer | jonathan`: mv'ing or rm'ing ~/.g* sometimes might help, not sure. |
| 16:46.16 | jetscreamer | or .gn or whatever |
| 16:46.22 | jetscreamer | look before you leap |
| 16:46.39 | StyXman | buht-w: sorry, was distracted. yes, that's the way :) |
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| 16:47.16 | jetscreamer | so apt-get install --reinstall gnome-desktop doesn't do anything |
| 16:47.18 | BrenIII | petemc: thanks |
| 16:47.23 | jetscreamer | or something |
| 16:47.28 | jonathan` | haven't done exactly that |
| 16:47.30 | jonathan` | let me try |
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| 16:48.23 | jonathan` | ok wow says i need 76mb of files |
| 16:48.42 | jonathan` | er well i guess thats just because its a full reinstall? |
| 16:48.54 | jetscreamer | ya or so |
| 16:49.02 | jonathan` | well, hopefully this'll work |
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| 16:50.16 | jetscreamer | try a front end |
| 16:50.33 | epsilon | who's creating the backupfiles /etc/passwd- shadow- etc, adduser/deluser & co? |
| 16:50.40 | jetscreamer | at least there's a list |
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| 16:55.02 | Estes2 | is there a software that would allow me to recursively copy a directory checking each file's md5 before an after copy ? the goal is to test the impact of the soft option on an nfs share and see if i get data corruption and if yes, how much |
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| 16:55.29 | lakcaj | Estes2, sure... bash :) |
| 16:55.34 | Estes2 | heh |
| 16:55.41 | Estes2 | ok, without having to write a script for it |
| 16:55.45 | Estes2 | ;) |
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| 16:56.23 | epsilon | if I modify /etc/passwd manually, should I just copy to /etc/shadow-? |
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| 16:57.27 | Estes2 | afaik shadow is not a copy of passwd |
| 16:57.30 | HazyNRG | hi, i get broken dependences on gnome but i don't need at all those packages to be installed. what can i do? |
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| 16:57.38 | Estes2 | epsilon, what are you trying to do ? |
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| 16:58.05 | HazyNRG | gnome-office and another |
| 16:58.42 | britt | okay, i got a process called 'init' that listening onb three ports, 1050,1051,1052 |
| 16:58.45 | britt | UDP |
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| 16:58.48 | epsilon | Estes2: I added a user manually by editing passwd,shadow,group,gshadow |
| 16:58.49 | Daeo | anyone know if .shar files are supported in debian? |
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| 16:59.16 | cisse | epsilon: why ? |
| 16:59.33 | epsilon | Estes2: Now I want to know who's managing passwd-,shadow-,group-,gshadow- and if I should copy them |
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| 17:00.07 | Enverex | Does anyone know how to find out what version of reiser4 a partition is currently using? |
| 17:00.07 | cisse | epsilon: they all have different purposes, passwd estables uid and base group, shadow has your password hash, group contains group ids and members |
| 17:00.36 | xam | Daeo: apt-get install sharutils |
| 17:00.57 | epsilon | cisee: that's not the point but it's a network with experimental auth method and I created an local user manually |
| 17:01.11 | Daeo | xam: do you know if these type of programs will even work in deb? |
| 17:01.16 | fluxdude | i just want to stress the disks and processor+memory |
| 17:01.21 | DimmuR | can any1 advice me what dc++ client is the best for debian? |
| 17:01.25 | epsilon | but somehow no one knows who's managing the backupfiles /etc/*- |
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| 17:02.27 | Spudchat | hi guys, im trying to share an internet connection between two machines, but i dont know much about iptables, so i used firestarter, i set the /etc/network/interfaces the exact way that the website says, but still no luck |
| 17:02.39 | Spudchat | any ideas? |
| 17:03.12 | xam | Daeo: these are shell archives, they should run without problems. You might need some utils installed sike uudecode, but most systems should come with the stuff thats needed |
| 17:03.35 | xam | sike=like |
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| 17:04.50 | rambo3 | what is a good program for mips assabler programing ? |
| 17:05.01 | foks | epsilon: the right way to edit passwd and group is vipw and vigr |
| 17:05.23 | justletters | does anyone know how the paramenter to get Cleartext traffic from tcpdump. like GET HTTP/1.1 request and so on! |
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| 17:06.21 | Bill_Gates | hey whats ports 1050-1053 used fro anyway? i have the generic 'init' process listening on these ports |
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| 17:07.03 | Daeo | xam: just tried it, i get an error that says sharutils isn't installed when i use unshar file. but if i double check in the package manger, it says its installed, and i even reinstalled it, not sure whats making it not work |
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| 17:13.50 | jonathan` | any recommendations on NFS server for debian? |
| 17:14.30 | lazzarello | !nfs |
| 17:14.30 | dpkg | well, nfs is Sun's Network Filesystem, a reasonably simple file transfer protocol that is quite hard to secure. See the NFS-HOWTO for setup, or No Files Served. Network FaILurE System. Never Fscking Stable. No Fucking Security. Nightmare File System, or ask me about 'ssh tunneled nfs', or http://linuxslut.net/guides/nfs.php |
| 17:15.05 | jonathan` | lol |
| 17:15.17 | pipeline | jonathan`: You pretty much have to use the nfs-kernel-server package. As brain-damaged as linux kernel NFS is, the userspace NFS implementation just doesn't fucking work. |
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| 17:15.42 | jonathan` | pipeline, k, ill look into that one |
| 17:15.42 | pepenrike | hola??? |
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| 17:16.08 | pipeline | jonathan`: Linux NFS sucks even more than NFS usually does. |
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| 17:16.26 | pipeline | pepenrike: You should probably use #debian-es for castellano. This is an english-only channel. |
| 17:16.36 | jonathan` | This is for one of our customers at work, we really don't have a way around using it that I know of |
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| 17:16.56 | pipeline | jonathan`: Yeah, well, be prepared for a journey through hell. |
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| 17:17.32 | jonathan` | is it difficult to setup are the security issues just hell? |
| 17:18.10 | PlutoniumDragon | I've got a system running stable, and I want to update the version of ntop on it so I changed the sources.list to use testing instead and did apt-get update then apt-get install ntop ... in the list of things it wants to do it says it wants to upgrade libc and remove base-install... this strikes me as a dangerous thing to do... am I right in thinking that? |
| 17:18.34 | Spudchat | i used the following line to enable connection sharing: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE now my question is what should the internal interface look like in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 17:18.41 | bbrazil | PlutoniumDragon: yes, you'd end up running testing. /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 17:19.00 | Spudchat | do i just need to set its ip and subnet? |
| 17:19.14 | PlutoniumDragon | bbrazil: So is there any way to just get ntop or should I uninstall it using apt then install it from the ntop source? |
| 17:19.44 | bbrazil | PlutoniumDragon: try the dpkg factoid I pointed you to, from source will also work |
| 17:19.50 | PlutoniumDragon | bbrazil: Thankyou |
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| 17:21.43 | Flexy | I set the headers (From: Errors-To: Return-Path: and Reply-To:) in php, and they seem correct (not including Return-Path, which is www-data@domain.running.apache and not the address specified in php) in the send message. Problems rise when these php created emails bounce... the bounced mail comes to www-data@domain.running.apache. How do I get these bounced emails to go to the specified address? (Problem being that apache runs several web |
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| 17:23.27 | Flexy | php.ini has sendmail_path = sendmail -t -i |
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| 17:27.08 | sdvsdg | I am a first time installer of linux debian and I am unsure which system I should download of: [alpha] [amd64] [arm] [hppa] [i386] [ia64] [m68k] [mips] [mipsel] [powerpc] [sparc] [source] |
| 17:27.18 | sdvsdg | does anybody have any suggestions? |
| 17:27.26 | elnovato | what is your pc processor? |
| 17:27.40 | sdvsdg | intel |
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| 17:28.03 | elnovato | intel what/ |
| 17:28.12 | Flexy | sdvsdg: i386 is a sure thing to work |
| 17:28.16 | sdvsdg | petium |
| 17:28.20 | sdvsdg | pentium |
| 17:28.23 | xam | sdvsdg: i386 it is then |
| 17:28.25 | Bill_Gates | 1,2,3,4 |
| 17:28.34 | sdvsdg | thank you |
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| 17:29.25 | amee2k | how do i enable PHP for apache? |
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| 17:29.56 | johnsu01 | Can anyone suggest a quick fix for this: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-x@lists.debian.org/msg40506.html ? This conflict between acpid and Xorg means I can't put my laptop to sleep without quitting X and restarting acpid. |
| 17:30.24 | cisse | heh run freebsd |
| 17:30.53 | johnsu01 | It seems to be the result of a relatively recent Xorg patch, so I guess I could roll back.. but gah. |
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| 17:36.31 | albertx | hola alguien me puede ayudar con iptables ???? |
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| 17:36.55 | foks | !es |
| 17:36.55 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 17:47.14 | abrotman | !moo |
| 17:47.14 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 17:48.09 | sdvsdg | apt-get moo |
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| 17:48.16 | sdvsdg | doesnt work! |
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| 17:48.19 | bananafly | anyone know how to restore partition tables?? |
| 17:49.07 | Jhair | sdvsdg: sure it does |
| 17:49.27 | facade | Hi, I'm trying to install two .deb files with "dpkg -i" but they both depend on the other file -- any idea how to resolve this? |
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| 17:50.04 | oigres | I've installed a new 2.6.15 kernel and got problems of the sort udev_event[xxxx]: run_program: exec of program ... with udev. Is there something wrong? |
| 17:50.35 | elnovato | oigres: errors at boot? |
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| 17:50.43 | johnsu01 | Yes, I see a bunch of those too. |
| 17:50.43 | Jhair | facade: try dpkg --force-help and choose the more appropiate option (e.g. --force-depends) |
| 17:50.43 | no-one | hey guys, what program opens up udp ports on 1050-1053 |
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| 17:51.02 | elnovato | same here, i see like 200 errors |
| 17:51.24 | Snadder | lo.. anyone can recommend a tool to find out if anyone is ddos'ing me?.. |
| 17:51.39 | oigres | no-one: strange... Nothing appears on /etc/services! |
| 17:51.39 | no-one | snort? |
| 17:51.56 | Snadder | I see lots of traffic an collitions on my switch.. and I'm kinda lagged.. |
| 17:52.11 | Snadder | hub*.. |
| 17:52.31 | Snadder | no-one, something which is simpler |
| 17:52.39 | oigres | elnovato: yeap! Just at boot. Problem is that things don't work quite well. I guess I'm downgrading to a more usable kernel... |
| 17:52.44 | no-one | aidehua: nope |
| 17:52.54 | Snadder | no-one, dont have time to set up any rules and stuff now. |
| 17:53.03 | cappiz | someone here using lftp? |
| 17:53.14 | elnovato | oigres: im using kernel 2.6.15, and for me its a piece of art |
| 17:53.15 | oigres | cappiz, what's the problem? |
| 17:53.20 | Spudchat | no-one: netstat -lnp should tell ya what program is holding what port |
| 17:53.29 | cappiz | the -x -i option for mirror |
| 17:53.34 | cappiz | you know how to use it ? |
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| 17:53.56 | oigres | elnovato: Well, that's what i thought. The problem is that it seems that udev screws up a few things... |
| 17:54.03 | no-one | nada...i guess its gone |
| 17:54.13 | elnovato | oigres: what problems you having? |
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| 17:54.40 | facade | Thanks, Jhair, but I'm not sure how to use that command -- the files I'm trying to install are "enlightenment_0.16.999.018-1_amd64.deb" and "enlightenment-data_data_0.16.999.018-1_amd64.deb" -- could you type out the full command? |
| 17:55.09 | cappiz | oigres ? :) |
| 17:55.17 | mortal | which window manager would be good for dualhead? |
| 17:55.19 | oigres | elnovato, simple devices such as /dev/audio, some drivers for video card and probably some others are not working at all. |
| 17:55.24 | mortal | I'm looking for something keyboard oriented |
| 17:55.28 | cisse | facade: where are you getting e17 debs from soulmachine ? |
| 17:55.55 | oigres | cappiz: I've never used lftp for mirroring. Isn't it better wget for that sort of thing ? |
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| 17:56.24 | elnovato | oigres: what chipset audio/video ? |
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| 17:56.40 | facade | cisse: No, soulmachine only has i386 e17 -- I found them here: http://peen.net/e17/ |
| 17:56.46 | cisse | nice |
| 17:57.29 | jonathan` | Ok, I think I've got the nfs stuff running pretty well.. files can be created and deleted, the only thing I can't do is edit a file I made on another box on the box with NFS setup on it |
| 17:57.54 | cisse | facade: put them in a dir and try dpkg -i -R dir/ |
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| 17:58.11 | oigres | elnovato: Ohh, it's a simple AMD (Audio) and nvidia (video). They are quite old now (machine is 4yrs old) and are absolutelly standard... |
| 17:58.37 | oigres | elnovato, BTW, they used to work quite ok for 4 years (always running testing and sid) ... |
| 17:59.17 | oigres | Anyone knows of a site of old kernel debs? |
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| 18:00.25 | penguin__ | What is the default mail program for Debian? |
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| 18:00.37 | facade | cisse: Still got a dependency error with "dpkg -i -R (dir)" |
| 18:00.55 | elnovato | oigres: stable cd images comes with 2.4 |
| 18:00.57 | penguin__ | I have exim, but isnt postfix and sendmail more popular? |
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| 18:01.19 | oigres | penguin__, You mean Mail Transport Agent, or client? |
| 18:01.28 | penguin__ | mta |
| 18:01.45 | cisse | facade: hrm don't know |
| 18:01.52 | oigres | elnovato, I'm actually thinking of the good 2.6.8-2 or the sort... Nothing less than that... |
| 18:02.01 | oigres | penguin__: exim (www.exim.org) |
| 18:02.26 | penguin__ | Why is that the default? |
| 18:02.43 | oigres | penguin__, long story... but here we go (brief one) |
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| 18:04.12 | typewriter | how do i minimum install with debian? |
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| 18:04.41 | oigres | penguin__, (a) exim was built in Cambridge (UK) (b) A lot of developers were based there (actually in Churchill College) (c) Exim was built in order to forget about the 10^10000 bugs and sec. problems of sendmail (d) Exim is quite honestly the best choice! |
| 18:05.12 | gnufan | oigres: hehe MTA religious wars today? |
| 18:05.28 | oigres | gnufan: Ohh, not again, we suffered that years ago! |
| 18:05.31 | penguin__ | I have no clue, but exim docs dont seem so good. |
| 18:05.34 | typewriter | does debian automcatially do a minimum install? |
| 18:05.57 | oigres | penguin__, install your favourite then... apt-get install sendmail (or anyother)... |
| 18:06.25 | gnufan | reiserfs - I'm sure there is a command to make it do a more thorough check than "reiserfsck --check" but I can't find what it is..... |
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| 18:06.36 | oigres | typewriter, install from CD and when it boots tell it not to install anything else.. |
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| 18:06.49 | typewriter | how? |
| 18:06.56 | typewriter | it doesnt ask |
| 18:07.01 | oigres | Before I quit, anyone knows of a site where old kernel debs are available? |
| 18:07.12 | gnufan | penguin__: anything but sendmail -- please.... |
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| 18:07.34 | Spudchat | typewriter: try the net install, it downloads packages from the internet and you can choose what you want to install |
| 18:07.35 | gnufan | oigres: there are archives at debian.org |
| 18:07.49 | oigres | gnufan, any more precise information? |
| 18:08.19 | gnufan | oigres: I think they are mentioned in the Debian reference.... but there is an archive of old stuff.... |
| 18:08.22 | jonathan` | Are there any other permissions for /etc/exports other than ro,rw,no_access? |
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| 18:08.55 | oigres | gnufan, I'll chek it out. |
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| 18:10.20 | gnufan | jonathaN: probably - man exports - what you trying to do? |
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| 18:10.44 | jonathan` | I have NFS setup on one of my debian machines, and I can move files from and to either one |
| 18:10.45 | gnufan | jonathan`: probably - man exports - what you trying to do? |
| 18:10.55 | oigres | gnufan, Kewl, really Kewl!!! I've learnt that it is available in http://snapshot.debian.net Thanks a lot! |
| 18:11.03 | jonathan` | But on the box with the actual NFS service on it, I can't edit files created by the other machine |
| 18:11.04 | yuma | hi |
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| 18:11.26 | yuma | how do i add an additional module in my minimal CD install? i need the tg3 module |
| 18:11.50 | cisse | you can roll your own installer |
| 18:11.52 | no-one | / |
| 18:11.59 | gnufan | jonathan`: not sure what you mean by service. Remember root is not root for the others servers files. |
| 18:12.10 | jonathan` | err server* rather |
| 18:12.37 | jonathan` | So on the other machine do I have to specify special permissions for that box with NFS to give it permission to edit? |
| 18:12.45 | jonathan` | And why would I be able to delete them but not edit? |
| 18:13.01 | buht-w | does make kernel-image take care of the modules too? or do i need to make modules and modules_install? |
| 18:13.06 | buht-w | make kpkg that is |
| 18:13.30 | penguin__ | Where is the directory with the docs in it? |
| 18:13.36 | penguin__ | I keep forgetting that one. |
| 18:14.01 | oigres | yuma: add tg3 to /etc/modules |
| 18:14.06 | oigres | penguin__: /usr/share/doc |
| 18:14.17 | penguin__ | ty |
| 18:14.19 | gnufan | jonathan`: please call the machines on which the file system is local the server. The one where the file system is mounted over NFS the client, and show us the file permissions. Are you trying to edit the files as the "owner" of them? |
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| 18:15.08 | jonathan` | Well, it won't let me chmod the files at all (I assume because they're exported) |
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| 18:15.33 | gnufan | jonathan`: chmod works fine over NFS -- it is a mount option, or you are root and on a client system. |
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| 18:15.55 | tuxito_ | hola |
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| 18:16.17 | tuxito_ | hay alguien q hable espain? |
| 18:16.21 | jonathan` | jelb20 is the name of the machine with NFS on it, and jelv20 is the other machine |
| 18:16.22 | gnufan | jonathan`: do you own the files - i.e. type "ls -l" and see what the permissions are, does it show as you? |
| 18:16.35 | jonathan` | Which machine do that I do that from? |
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| 18:16.55 | jonathan` | -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nogroup 26 date time test.html |
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| 18:18.07 | gnufan | jonathan`: is that the client or server... Anyway I assume you aren't nobody so that is probably why you can't chmod the files. |
| 18:18.19 | jonathan` | I'm su'd as root on both machines |
| 18:18.28 | jonathan` | and those permissions showed the same on both machines |
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| 18:18.49 | gnufan | jonathan`: yes and root on the client can't access the files of "nobody" on the server... |
| 18:19.01 | jonathan` | it's the other way around actually |
| 18:19.18 | jonathan` | the client can access the server files |
| 18:19.23 | jonathan` | its the server that cant access the client files |
| 18:19.25 | gnufan | jonathan`: if the files are local, and you can't chmod them it has nothing to do with NFS |
| 18:19.53 | gnufan | jonathan`: the server can't see any client files -- by definition |
| 18:20.18 | jonathan` | It can see the files so to speak, and can view them and even delete |
| 18:20.23 | jonathan` | I just can't edit them |
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| 18:20.50 | itsmike | must go now 1 alienware area51m 5700 notebook price 550, 1 toshiba M70-DL3 Centrino based laptop $650. Message me on msn at mcsltd@telusmail.net or aim at itscrazyguymike if interested and wanting to buy! DO NOT MESSAGE OTHERWISE! |
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| 18:21.22 | jonathan` | that's got to be the most retarded thing to advertise on a server like this.. lol |
| 18:21.25 | gnufan | jonathan`: How can it see them? I have a file on my NFS client called /fred, I mount /mnt/barney from the server -- how can someone on the server see /fred?! |
| 18:21.43 | jonathan` | I mounted from the client to the server |
| 18:21.58 | psychonate | heh |
| 18:22.11 | gnufan | jonathan`: your being obtuse -- I just said that the client is the thing that does the mounting -- pay attention |
| 18:22.18 | itsmike | must go now 1 alienware area51m 5700 notebook price 550, 1 toshiba M70-DL3 Centrino based laptop $650. Message me on msn at mcsltd@telusmail.net or aim at itscrazyguymike if interested and wanting to buy! DO NOT MESSAGE OTHERWISE! |
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| 18:22.24 | jonathan` | sorry.. I'm not really used to working with NFS on debian |
| 18:22.28 | psychonate | itsmike, please stop |
| 18:22.43 | gnufan | jonathan`: root doesn't own the files mounted from another system via NFS. |
| 18:23.04 | gnufan | jonathan`: root privileges stop with NFS by default... stupid default security measure |
| 18:23.05 | jonathan` | ok... so I need to find out either how to change the ownership of the files or whats setting them to that owner and group |
| 18:23.13 | cisse | hrm how do you take a screenshot in xorg |
| 18:23.29 | stew | cisse: /msg dpkg screenshot |
| 18:23.38 | cisse | heh figures |
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| 18:24.27 | amee2k | how do I enable PHP in apache? It's installed but apache doesn't recognize .php files. |
| 18:24.53 | amee2k | just gives me the code in the browser window |
| 18:25.15 | cisse | you need an AddHandler for php |
| 18:25.34 | cisse | err addtype |
| 18:25.47 | cisse | but it should be managed by mods-enabled/php4/5.conf |
| 18:26.03 | jonathan` | i thought it was addhandler? |
| 18:26.14 | jonathan` | AddHandler application/x-httpd-php .php in the conf |
| 18:26.19 | bobbens | amee2k: you have to get libapache-mod-php4 or something like that, try "apt-cache search php apache" |
| 18:26.21 | cisse | 1.3 i think ? |
| 18:26.29 | jonathan` | ah |
| 18:26.31 | cisse | i'm looking at my 2.0 config |
| 18:26.45 | gnufan | jonathan`: google "root squash nfs" but does root need access to the files anyway? |
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| 18:27.08 | jonathan` | root doesn't need access, but the other user on the server may |
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| 18:27.40 | jonathan` | I don't think we'll need to edit anything really, but I just want to make sure there are full permissions granted just incase |
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| 18:28.06 | amee2k | It's apache2. i can't find anything with php in mods-available or mods-enabled |
| 18:28.13 | jonathan` | because of the state's security we can't remotely access these machines so we have to travel about 3 hours away so it's a pain in the ass when we have to do work on these things |
| 18:28.21 | jonathan` | so I'm trying to make sure everything's right, lol |
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| 18:28.32 | amee2k | i found a config file with two "AddType"s in /etc/apacte/conf.d |
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| 18:28.50 | cisse | amee2k: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4/5 |
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| 18:29.42 | kapat | I've got a question about the current state of /etc/mod* in etch. What is the current recommended way to add aliases and module options in etch? |
| 18:29.52 | kapat | I read that update-modules has been depreciated. |
| 18:30.03 | tobler1 | how can i open port 123 that i can access ntpd from the internet? |
| 18:30.21 | gnufan | jonathan`: as long as the uid and gid's match up the users will be fine. If there are security sensitivities no_root_squash is likely to give them the frigjteners anyway |
| 18:30.35 | d-st | hi. does anyone know in which package the php-binary is? |
| 18:31.09 | gnufan | tobler1: that would depend how your firewall is configured. Give us some clue - out of crystal ball. |
| 18:31.10 | kapat | tobler1: Do you need outgoing access, or you want to run an ntp server on your system? |
| 18:31.23 | tobler1 | i need outgoing access |
| 18:31.34 | tobler1 | i want to access my timeserver over the internet because i have to sometimes |
| 18:31.45 | jonathan` | gnufan, k, ill give it a shot |
| 18:31.51 | tobler1 | at home i use internal ips |
| 18:32.01 | kapat | tobler1: Then you need incoming access from the internet to your ntp server? |
| 18:32.06 | tobler1 | but when i'm not at home i don't want to change the timeserver on my windows laptop |
| 18:32.14 | tobler1 | @kapat: yes i do |
| 18:32.28 | kapat | tobler1: what kind of firewall do you use? |
| 18:32.46 | tobler1 | linksys hardware router.. ports are forwarded |
| 18:32.55 | jonathan` | hmm.. now it's not letting me edit /etc/exports |
| 18:32.59 | tobler1 | if i do a "nmap localhost" 123 is closed |
| 18:33.07 | tobler1 | and ssh is opened |
| 18:33.10 | tobler1 | i don't know why |
| 18:33.15 | gnufan | tobler1: why not just use a public time server - save exposing a service -- knew clock.redhat.com had a purpose |
| 18:33.16 | kapat | tobler1: Is ntp running? |
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| 18:33.34 | tobler1 | of course =) |
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| 18:34.40 | tobler1 | iptables is not running |
| 18:34.43 | gnufan | tobler1: the linksys needs two rules ones for tcp one for udp, just forward the public 123 to port 123 on your internal server... Still think it better to use someone elses time server. |
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| 18:35.52 | tobler1 | i have 2 ports forwarded (tcp and udp) |
| 18:36.17 | jonathan` | hmm.. when i tried to restart the nfs-kernel-server it wont take no_root_squash as a sync option |
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| 18:37.42 | kapat | tobler1: type "lsof -i :123" on your ntp server, and see what interfaces it is listening on. |
| 18:37.47 | dob1 | hi, xgl will be on debian? |
| 18:38.01 | kapat | tobler1: you will need the lsof package, and you will need to be root. |
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| 18:38.58 | kapat | dob1: I'm sure it will eventually |
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| 18:39.09 | tobler1 | ntpd 1755 root 4u IPv4 3313 UDP *:ntp |
| 18:39.09 | tobler1 | ntpd 1755 root 5u IPv6 3314 UDP *:ntp |
| 18:39.09 | tobler1 | ntpd 1755 root 6u IPv4 3315 UDP localhost.localdomain:ntp |
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| 18:39.11 | kapat | dob1: But it will probably take a wile |
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| 18:39.18 | Jhair | ouch |
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| 18:39.34 | dob1 | kapat: ok just to know :) |
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| 18:40.46 | kapat | tobler1: Well, if you have your ports forwarded correctly, and you are not running a firewall on your ntp server, then it *should* be working. |
| 18:40.49 | dob1 | kapat: the tool that is like expose of mac osx, if a part of xgl or an indipendent tool ? |
| 18:40.55 | dob1 | *is a part |
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| 18:41.35 | kapat | dob1: I think is a part of xgl, although I remember hearing of other programs to impliment that feature before xgl ever came around. |
| 18:42.18 | dob1 | kapat: there is kompose for kde but looking at the video, the one from xgl is better |
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| 18:44.45 | scoopex | sudo has a critical bug since 24 Jan 2006 - maybe that degrades my trust in the debian-release-policy :-) |
| 18:45.17 | kapat | I want to add some module aliases and options to get loaded during boot. What is the best way to do that on an Etch system? |
| 18:46.01 | kapat | I tried editing /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, but the module is not getting loaded when the system boots. |
| 18:46.21 | dumezil | modconf? |
| 18:46.29 | blondie | how can you see what version of a program is obtainable from apt-get (with packages. down)? |
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| 18:46.55 | kapat | apt-get search |
| 18:46.57 | XTF | Hi. I've got linux-image-2.6-386 package installed but it doesn't upgrade to 2.6.15. |
| 18:46.57 | dob1 | apt-cache show |
| 18:47.03 | XTF | Is there no upgrade path for -386? |
| 18:47.07 | dob1 | or apt-show-version |
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| 18:47.51 | kapat | XTF: What release are you running? |
| 18:47.52 | stew | blondie: or pdo.debian.net |
| 18:48.06 | XTF | kapat: Testing |
| 18:48.57 | kapat | XTF: I think 2.6.15 is still in unstable |
| 18:49.04 | XTF | kapat: No, it migrated to testing. |
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| 18:49.19 | Eulex | blondie, apt-cache policy pkgname |
| 18:49.26 | stew | XTF: it appears that for some reason there is not. compare "apt-cache depends linux-image-2.6-386" to the same with -686 |
| 18:49.40 | stew | XTF: do you really have a 486 or a pentium1? |
| 18:49.47 | XTF | stew: No, VMware on a K8. |
| 18:50.02 | stew | XTF: does vmware not support 686? |
| 18:50.22 | XTF | stew: I think it does. |
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| 18:50.31 | Flexy | I set the headers (From: Errors-To: Return-Path: and Reply-To:) in php, and they seem correct (not including Return-Path, which is www-data@domain.running.apache and not the address specified in php) in the send message. Problems rise when these php created emails bounce... the bounced mail comes to www-data@domain.running.apache. How do I get these bounced emails to go to the specified address? (Problem being that apache runs several web |
| 18:50.39 | stew | XTF: the apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 linux-image-2.6-386- |
| 18:50.42 | XTF | BTW, does the K7 kernel really use K7 instructions or does it use 486 instructions but is optimized for K7? |
| 18:50.52 | XTF | stew: Why 686 instead of k7? |
| 18:51.38 | kapat | XTF: Well, it's somewhat irrelevant if you are using vmware. You should find out which one VM ware supports better. |
| 18:52.05 | stew | XTF: i don't know, ask vmware which instruction set they emulate |
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| 18:53.07 | XTF | kapat: I know, but last week I tried the k7 kernel on a p3 and it worked fine. |
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| 18:53.37 | XTF | stew: I think it simply uses the host CPU's instructionset. |
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| 18:56.44 | tkup | how's the job market in the US doing nowadays? what's the average sys ad II salary? |
| 18:57.10 | stew | tkup: wrong channel |
| 18:57.18 | stew | XTF: that would suprise me, but i don't know |
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| 18:57.54 | XTF | Hmm, now I lost gnome after some apt-get dist-upgrades in testing. :( |
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| 18:58.32 | tkup | stew, would you be kind and point me to one you might know about? |
| 18:58.33 | stew | XTF: i'd guess its becuase for some reason udev was removed and therefor gnome-volumn-manager |
| 18:58.41 | stew | tkup: i don't know of any |
| 18:58.55 | XTF | stew: I think udev got installed, but hal got removed. |
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| 18:59.09 | stew | XTF: that would be it then, g-v-m depends on hal |
| 18:59.10 | XTF | stew: I didn't think apt-get dist-upgrade would suggest such dangerous upgrades. |
| 18:59.13 | tuxito_ | usé enlightenment y me parecio muy bknoso pero igual no pude cambiar fondo de escritorio ni instalarle un wallpapers |
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| 18:59.24 | XTF | stew: I thought it was the sound volume manager. :) |
| 18:59.29 | abrotman | !es |
| 18:59.29 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:59.44 | stew | XTF: yes, the only difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is that dist-upgrade is willing to do more dangerous stuff (install new packages, remove packages) |
| 19:00.18 | nomad_cz | Hi. Anybody using viralator ? |
| 19:00.18 | XTF | stew: removing sounds far more dangerous than installing though. |
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| 19:01.40 | stew | XTF: if of course doens't do anything without telling you first |
| 19:01.52 | Bonker | is there any way to fix this : E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1) problem ? http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-recover isn't helping neither (unexpected end of line) |
| 19:02.10 | stew | XTF: alsa note that the "gnome" package is just a meta-package used to bring in other packages and itself doesn't provide any functionality |
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| 19:02.48 | stew | Bonker: /msg dpkg status recovery |
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| 19:03.07 | stew | !dpkg status recovery is <reply> see status-recovery |
| 19:03.07 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 19:03.10 | XTF | stew: I know, but of course much more got removed. |
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| 19:03.26 | Ofenrohr | hi |
| 19:03.26 | stew | XTF: then figure out why it wants to remoe hal |
| 19:03.31 | stew | remove* |
| 19:03.34 | Bonker | dpkg doesn't respond |
| 19:03.46 | Bonker | ok a bit late :)thx |
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| 19:04.05 | mcv | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.09 | bacan | d |
| 19:04.12 | mcv | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.12 | bacan | Hola |
| 19:04.16 | troxy | is there any way to transfer a large 2GB+ file over ssh? |
| 19:04.17 | bacan | Como estas |
| 19:04.32 | stew | troxy: yes, use scp |
| 19:04.42 | troxy | stew: does it support resume? |
| 19:04.45 | mcv | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.53 | stew | troxy: i don't think so |
| 19:05.02 | troxy | crud |
| 19:05.25 | bbrazil | troxy: dd |
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| 19:05.48 | bbrazil | troxy: rsync might work |
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| 19:06.04 | troxy | bbrazil: doesn't rsync need a special server though? |
| 19:06.08 | Overand | Are there nvidia binary drivers taht will work in debian IA64? |
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| 19:06.18 | Nitro88 | hi alli |
| 19:06.21 | stew | troxy: no rsync will tunnel over ssh by default |
| 19:06.34 | troxy | ah, cool... are there tutorials? |
| 19:06.38 | Nitro88 | i've got a problem with Amsn |
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| 19:06.44 | Nitro88 | on ubuntu linux 5.10 |
| 19:06.46 | Nitro88 | can any help me? |
| 19:06.48 | Bonker | thx stew that did the trick |
| 19:06.50 | mhall | !ubuntusmite Nitro88 |
| 19:06.51 | stew | i'm not sure whether rsync will continue a borked sync or it would replace the partial trnasfer |
| 19:06.51 | bbrazil | Overand: afaik, they're x86 only. Also I think you mean amd64 |
| 19:07.01 | stew | Nitro88: #ubuntu |
| 19:07.02 | mhall | !tell Nitro88 about based on debian |
| 19:07.08 | Nitro88 | ? |
| 19:07.14 | elnovato | Nitro88: join #amsn |
| 19:07.16 | jonathan` | lol |
| 19:07.26 | stew | Nitro88: see the topic, please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
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| 19:07.44 | bbrazil | troxy: if you use rsync as you would scp, it'll see that the stuff thats already there is the same, and it'll ignore it |
| 19:07.59 | troxy | bbrazil: ahh... awesome.. I'll try that |
| 19:08.01 | troxy | thanks |
| 19:08.10 | Nitro88 | thanks all |
| 19:08.12 | Overand | bbrazil: i probably do |
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| 19:08.19 | Overand | ia64 is itanium? |
| 19:08.25 | mhall | Overand: yes |
| 19:08.25 | bbrazil | Overand: yip |
| 19:08.29 | Overand | heh |
| 19:08.30 | jonathan` | mmm.. chili's is great for lunch :) |
| 19:08.31 | mhall | Overand: out |
| 19:08.34 | tonix | hy guys, someone knows why my root mail goes to nobody?? thanks |
| 19:08.35 | Overand | yeah maybe i WON'T be doing that one =] |
| 19:08.50 | bbrazil | troxy: check /etc/aliases |
| 19:08.59 | mhall | jonathan`: gah! cheesy corporate restaurant |
| 19:09.15 | Overand | bbrazil: there are binaries for amd64/linux on nvidia's site, but... |
| 19:09.16 | jonathan` | mhall, doesn't matter how cheesy they are as long as the food rocks |
| 19:09.23 | bbrazil | troxy: if anything your nobody mail should be going to root |
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| 19:09.35 | mhall | jonathan`: but i'm thinking it doesn't |
| 19:09.42 | Overand | hm |
| 19:09.49 | Overand | is there no official sarge for amd64? |
| 19:09.49 | bbrazil | Overand: you can try them then. '/msg dpkg nvidia' should give you the debian way of doing it |
| 19:09.50 | troxy | are these where mail go to? |
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| 19:09.53 | troxy | is this* |
| 19:09.54 | mhall | what's the emacs / bash key for moving left and right through words without deleting like ^W does |
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| 19:10.25 | Overand | Maybe I should go for etch... |
| 19:10.28 | Overand | How's etch these days? |
| 19:10.35 | Overand | I know that's a horrible question, heh |
| 19:10.35 | elnovato | wonderful |
| 19:10.35 | abrotman | depends on what you need |
| 19:10.45 | Overand | abrotman: it's a workstation, not a server |
| 19:10.56 | abrotman | that's great .. still depends on what you need :) |
| 19:11.00 | Overand | I'll be doing X, and will be going for nvidia binary drivers |
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| 19:11.10 | mhall | Overand: do you even need 3D? |
| 19:11.13 | Overand | SATA II boot drive on an nforce4 |
| 19:11.16 | amee2k | how do I enable the TV out of a GeForce2 MX/MX400? |
| 19:11.26 | Overand | mhall: i'd rather reboot to windows as infrequently as possible (; |
| 19:11.42 | abrotman | oh .. k3b finally made it back into etch |
| 19:11.49 | Overand | Usually I keep debian on my workstations and servers, but I figure I should make the plunge and get it on a fast machine for once |
| 19:11.52 | mhall | Overand: just wanted to check; many don't know about the free 2d drivers |
| 19:12.05 | Overand | yeah |
| 19:12.08 | Overand | they're totally fine |
| 19:12.15 | Overand | but i'll be doing at least some simplistic 3d stuff |
| 19:13.03 | Overand | are there any heinous installer bugs or issues with SATA in etch/the kernel etch uses? |
| 19:13.13 | cisse | hrm somehow too much traffic is flying about my network, any tools to quickly pinpoint what machine it's comign from ? |
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| 19:13.30 | abrotman | Overand: possibly .. check the daily "it's broken" page for the installer |
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| 19:13.47 | mhall | abrotman: can you send the link? i forgot where that page even is |
| 19:13.49 | abrotman | http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata |
| 19:14.01 | mhall | Overand: there is a stable etch beta installer release with 2.6 |
| 19:14.12 | Overand | abrotman: hm, actually looks ok |
| 19:14.14 | Overand | mhall: stable etch? |
| 19:14.16 | abrotman | and that's for beta1 .. not even the daily |
| 19:14.16 | Overand | heh |
| 19:14.30 | abrotman | mhall: Overand: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Today |
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| 19:14.45 | Overand | abrotman: that's what i was reading |
| 19:15.12 | mhall | Overand: yeah a beta of what they propose to use for when etch->isStable() == TRUE |
| 19:15.19 | Overand | mhall: interesting |
| 19:15.27 | Overand | think i should go for that instead of the daily? |
| 19:15.34 | Overand | I know it's a toss-up. |
| 19:15.44 | Overand | I've got a windows partition (ick) on this machine |
| 19:15.48 | Overand | but i wouldn't be devistated if it died |
| 19:15.50 | Overand | i've got it backed up |
| 19:15.57 | mhall | Overand: it's kind of capricious; i go with the beta unless there's a problem |
| 19:16.11 | Overand | mhall: where can i find the beta? it looks like i'm getting the daily |
| 19:16.13 | mhall | Overand: it's unlikely that whatever goofs up will hose anything besides the linux install |
| 19:16.20 | mhall | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 19:16.27 | mhall | top of page; first installer |
| 19:16.29 | Overand | that/'s where i am |
| 19:16.31 | Overand | ooh |
| 19:16.31 | Overand | k |
| 19:16.42 | Overand | that links to here" http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 19:16.45 | Overand | of o |
| 19:16.47 | Overand | if i'm not reading the wrong link |
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| 19:16.51 | abrotman | Overand: for amd64 or for x86 ? |
| 19:16.55 | Overand | ack |
| 19:16.57 | Overand | hang on |
| 19:16.59 | Overand | ignroe that last paste |
| 19:17.16 | mhall | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2006/20060207 |
| 19:17.16 | Overand | abrotman: i'm gonna go for amd64 for kicks |
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| 19:17.29 | Overand | mhall: looks like the beta is only for full sets |
| 19:17.31 | mhall | Overand: not your fault it appears; the news link shows that they broke beta 1 |
| 19:17.34 | Overand | heh |
| 19:17.35 | Overand | ah |
| 19:17.41 | mhall | Overand: kind of a stupid thing to do |
| 19:17.43 | Overand | daily it is! |
| 19:17.46 | Overand | haha |
| 19:17.53 | mhall | Overand: but it's not the first time the installer team did arbitrary dumb stuff |
| 19:18.01 | Overand | heh |
| 19:18.04 | Overand | people screw up |
| 19:18.10 | mhall | Overand: a while ago they deleted all the dailies, swore they'd put them back up, took two weeks or more |
| 19:18.27 | mhall | Overand: and they swore that after the reorged the mirror that time they wouldn't need to do it again |
| 19:18.39 | mhall | Overand: looks like they didn't make it a calendar quarter since the last cockup |
| 19:18.39 | Overand | heh |
| 19:18.51 | Overand | hm |
| 19:18.57 | Overand | i should check my apt-proxy config |
| 19:19.27 | Overand | excellent, looks like i can use it |
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| 19:19.34 | Overand | too mad i'm switching platforms and releases, haha |
| 19:19.46 | Oliverro | Is there really 14 CD for debian on ppc? is it normal? |
| 19:20.00 | Overand | Oliverro: you usually don't need anything past the first few |
| 19:20.13 | abrotman | Oliverro: you don't need them all |
| 19:20.17 | Overand | I personally suggest using a 'net install' if you can, if the machine has access to an internet connection |
| 19:20.17 | abrotman | Oliverro: do you have broadband? |
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| 19:20.23 | stew | mhall: what does being a DD have to do with it? |
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| 19:20.40 | Overand | =] |
| 19:20.43 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 19:20.43 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 19:21.42 | Oliverro | yes Overand |
| 19:21.50 | Oliverro | I'll try it by netinstall :) thx |
| 19:21.59 | Overand | abrotman aasked agood question |
| 19:22.06 | Overand | broadband + netinstall == happy |
| 19:22.13 | Coke | I've read in several DVD authoring tutorials that ifogen and tocgen should be available in dvdauthor, but no such luck. Any idea if these programs are available in Debian? (I've tried using apt-file, but it's curl library is malfunctioning) |
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| 19:22.19 | Overand | dialup + netinstall == ): |
| 19:22.31 | Oliverro | I have 80ko/s in download |
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| 19:22.43 | Oliverro | is it enough to don't wait 2222 days? |
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| 19:22.46 | Overand | hehe |
| 19:22.49 | Overand | yeah that should be OK |
| 19:22.52 | King_Brad | how do i go about changing a users homedir ? |
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| 19:23.18 | bbrazil | King_Brad: usermo -d + mv |
| 19:23.49 | King_Brad | command not found |
| 19:24.24 | Overand | usermod |
| 19:25.02 | abrotman | Oliverro: it will take a bit .. but should be sufficiuent |
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| 19:25.43 | Overand | 80k/sec isn't too bad |
| 19:25.52 | Overand | Oliverro: the more you install, the longer it will take |
| 19:26.00 | Overand | so i would pick one window manager, for example, not 12 |
| 19:26.01 | Overand | heh |
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| 19:26.41 | Overand | afk, rebooting with the installer |
| 19:27.42 | leoboiko | hi. I'm trying to install testing via plip in an old laptop, using expert mode. everything went fine up to the "install the base system" step, where it fails with an "failed to determine the codename for the release" error |
| 19:28.31 | leoboiko | as far as I could see, base-installer gives this error if it fails to db_get mirror/codename. the mirror was correctly setup in the previous steps. any pointers? |
| 19:29.13 | abrotman | might want to ask #debian-boot |
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| 19:30.12 | mhall | stew: what happens when you complain about shit like that when you are not a DD is people say FFTSAP |
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| 19:31.41 | stew | fftsap? |
| 19:31.48 | mhall | stew: feel free to submit a patch |
| 19:32.06 | stew | yeah, that was going to be my point |
| 19:32.07 | mhall | stew: so, since i can't patch stuff like that, i stfu instead |
| 19:32.39 | [bono] | Question: i want to mount a partition on my VFS with my main user (uid/gid 1000) as the owner... This sounds stupid, but i cant get it to work... "mount /dev/hdd1 /mp3/ -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000" yields "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, etc...". What am i doing wrong? |
| 19:32.54 | mhall | stew: seems reasonable to me, rather than some mwilsonistic n00bish whinging |
| 19:33.00 | abrotman | [bono]: what's the type? |
| 19:33.07 | [bono] | abrotman: ext3 |
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| 19:33.15 | abrotman | maybe specify that? |
| 19:33.18 | [bono] | abrotman: i did a mkfs.ext3 on hdd1 |
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| 19:33.29 | [bono] | abrotman: tried and doesnt work any better... |
| 19:33.41 | cisse | run e2fsck ? |
| 19:34.00 | stew | [bono]: does hdd1 show up as a linux partition when you run fdisk -l ? |
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| 19:34.12 | abrotman | perhaps the options have to come before the device/mount point ? |
| 19:34.14 | [bono] | cisse: e2fsck says its clean :-) |
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| 19:34.33 | abrotman | are you running the mount as root ? |
| 19:34.38 | [bono] | stew: yup. /dev/hdd1 1 847 3415072+ 83 Linux |
| 19:34.58 | [bono] | abrotman: yes, as root. ill try putting the options before, but... |
| 19:35.12 | leOn | i'm trying to use mod_auth_ldap in apache2, but the "require group" directive isn't working ... keeps going for the groups file instead of searching in LDAP ... anyone has any idea what's going on ? |
| 19:35.13 | abrotman | but i konw it shouldn't matter :) |
| 19:35.28 | [bono] | abrotman: no difference... hmmm... |
| 19:35.32 | abrotman | leOn: maybe ask #apache or #ldap |
| 19:35.53 | abrotman | [bono]: what if you put the info in the fstab ? |
| 19:36.07 | abrotman | what does ls -ld /mp3/ |
| 19:36.22 | [bono] | abrotman|stew|cisse: hdd1 is well formatted since i can mount it w/o any problem if i dont put the uid/gid options... |
| 19:37.17 | [bono] | abrotman: ok, how do i ask mount to parse /etc/fstab without rebooting...? |
| 19:37.40 | abrotman | mount -a |
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| 19:38.03 | [bono] | abrotman: thanks. gives me the same error message. |
| 19:38.34 | abrotman | maybe ext3 doesn't support uid/gid ? |
| 19:38.35 | Mr0bvious | Hi. I have a question. I was wanting to download Debian to install but was wondering which CD image I need to grab. |
| 19:38.47 | Mr0bvious | http://cudlug.cudenver.edu/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/iso-cd/ <-Where I'm looking. |
| 19:39.10 | abrotman | Mr0bvious: do you have broadband ? |
| 19:39.13 | Mr0bvious | Yup. |
| 19:39.15 | [bono] | abrotman: hmmm... maybe... |
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| 19:39.23 | _ganymed | hallo |
| 19:39.24 | [bono] | abrotman: thanks for the help, bud. |
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| 19:39.44 | abrotman | !d-i Mr0bvious |
| 19:39.45 | dpkg | Mr0bvious, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 19:40.01 | abrotman | [bono]: if you check the man page for mount .. it lists options for ext2/3 .. i don't see uid/gid there |
| 19:40.24 | stew | which makes sense actually, since ext3 is permissions aware on its own |
| 19:40.37 | Mr0bvious | Ok there's like 12 CDs. |
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| 19:40.39 | Mr0bvious | :| |
| 19:40.43 | Mr0bvious | I chose i386. |
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| 19:40.52 | stew | Mr0bvious: sure if 14 is like 12 |
| 19:40.54 | orchid | Mr0bvious: disc one usually is suffice |
| 19:41.13 | orchid | Mr0bvious: you can then apt-get anything else as you need it |
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| 19:41.39 | abrotman | Mr0bvious: use the netinst |
| 19:41.41 | abrotman | !d-i Mr0bvious |
| 19:41.41 | dpkg | Mr0bvious, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 19:41.42 | _ganymed | my get the following message (seemingly?) randomly when i boot linux: "Code: Bad EIP value." can anybody tell me sth. about this? |
| 19:41.44 | abrotman | i can do that all day :) |
| 19:41.47 | [bono] | abrotman: youre right... |
| 19:41.55 | abrotman | [bono]: i get a cookie? |
| 19:42.32 | Mr0bvious | I'd do a net install but I don't have a NIC connection, just a HPNA. I did some research and the drivers only work for either a 2.4 kernel or Winblows. |
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| 19:42.34 | sdvsdg | woot! im installing linux for the first time! |
| 19:42.53 | Mr0bvious | Can I use the net install ISO then just install from the CD 1 ISO? |
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| 19:43.00 | abrotman | !beer sdvsdg |
| 19:43.07 | Mr0bvious | Or nevermind *shoots self* |
| 19:43.08 | abrotman | Mr0bvious: wtf is HPNA ? |
| 19:43.32 | Mr0bvious | abrotman: Home PhoneLine something, basically gives a network over phonelines for DSL users. |
| 19:43.38 | [bono] | abrotman: :-) |
| 19:43.45 | abrotman | Mr0bvious: how does that stop the netinst from working? |
| 19:43.53 | Mr0bvious | No drivers. |
| 19:44.02 | beardy | Mr0bvious: Isn't that the definition of DSL? |
| 19:44.03 | abrotman | Mr0bvious: doesn't the .. NIC plug into the router? |
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| 19:44.32 | mhall | abrotman: ironic that'd you'd have to !d-i Mr0bvious. you'd think of everything obvious, googling debian install or installer would be the obviousest |
| 19:44.46 | sdvsdg | sigh... there was a problem reading data from the cd-rom. Please make sure it is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check the integrity of your CD-ROM... <retry> or <no>... sigh |
| 19:44.47 | Mr0bvious | beardy: HPNA is like a NIC for a phone line. |
| 19:45.02 | abrotman | sdvsdg: what speed did you burn the ISO? |
| 19:45.06 | beardy | Mr0bvious: A DSL modem in other words then. ? |
| 19:45.11 | mhall | sdvsdg: funny CDs? |
| 19:45.12 | abrotman | see .. this is why the world needs floppies :) |
| 19:45.16 | mhall | sdvsdg: check MD5 sum |
| 19:45.17 | sdvsdg | 40x |
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| 19:45.21 | abrotman | mhall: andrew dice clay? |
| 19:45.27 | Mr0bvious | beardy: No, just a NIC. I have another box that is a DSL modem. |
| 19:45.38 | abrotman | sdvsdg: slower .. much slower .. burners use weird compression faster than 16x .. bad for ISOs .. try 8x |
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| 19:45.47 | beardy | Mr0bvious: Where are you from if I may ask? |
| 19:45.48 | sdvsdg | oh okay |
| 19:45.52 | Mr0bvious | Unfourtinately there are no drivers for a 2.6 kernel, so I tried Debian out and Sarge comes with a 2.4 kernel stock, which I can use the drivers on. |
| 19:45.54 | abrotman | are suse employees allowed in #debian ? |
| 19:45.54 | Mr0bvious | Kansas. |
| 19:46.02 | mhall | abrotman: andrew dice clay? |
| 19:46.02 | beardy | Mr0bvious: Never heard of something like that. |
| 19:46.13 | zinx | abrotman: o_O why wouldn't they be? |
| 19:46.14 | abrotman | mhall: are you serious ? .. you don't konw andrew dice clay? |
| 19:46.16 | mhall | orafu: guten tag |
| 19:46.23 | mhall | abrotman: i do; but don't see the connection |
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| 19:46.30 | abrotman | mhall: funny cds |
| 19:46.36 | mhall | abrotman: *know of* |
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| 19:46.54 | mhall | abrotman: weird compression? |
| 19:46.54 | Mr0bvious | I'm too cheap to buy wireless (we're just getting by), and it'd look tacky to run a CAT cable from my upstairs PC all the way downstairs without drilling through walls. |
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| 19:47.11 | mhall | Mr0bvious: so you want to do it college student style |
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| 19:47.15 | abrotman | mhall: burners use some weird algothrm or some crap when the speed goes over 16x |
| 19:47.19 | mhall | Mr0bvious: on the cheap |
| 19:47.22 | dumezil | anyone know of a 'offline files' type thing (that windows has) for linux? i recently put linux on my laptop and want to keep some files syncronized between my desktop and laptop |
| 19:47.30 | orafu | mhall: guten Tag zurück :) |
| 19:47.39 | mhall | abrotman: i'd like a link if you have one; i'm fairly clued into the topic (or so i believe) and this seems bizarre |
| 19:47.42 | Mr0bvious | mhall: Pretty much. The NIC works in Linux thank goodness. |
| 19:47.47 | Mr0bvious | Not the HPNA adapter. |
| 19:47.48 | johnsu01 | dumezil: there's a lot of choices. unison is pretty good. or rsync. |
| 19:47.54 | abrotman | mhall: let me see if i can find anything |
| 19:47.58 | mhall | orafu: so why *are* you logging into the debian channel from SuSE |
| 19:48.00 | mhall | abrotman: thanks |
| 19:48.01 | sdvsdg | should I prefer the default write method "Track-at-once"? |
| 19:48.06 | _ganymed | my linux randomly stops when booting. i usually only know this from win*. the error code is: "Code: Bad EIP value." sometimes it starts and everything seems fine, however my usb mouse doesn't work and when shut down it hangs when it comes to switching off HAL. any ideas? |
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| 19:48.09 | kapat | dumezil: I use unison to keep my documents in sync between my laptop and my desktop/server |
| 19:48.19 | mhall | Mr0bvious: there's supposed to be some way to get normal nics to talk hpna |
| 19:48.35 | orafu | mhall: sometimes the conversations are interesting :) |
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| 19:48.41 | yassine | hello everyone |
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| 19:48.53 | johnsu01 | dumezil: but you might also consider using something like cvs, darcs, subversion, etc, depending on what you'll be doing with these files. |
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| 19:49.49 | mhall | orafu: really? let me know when? i've been here since 1998 and i miss all of em. ;-) |
| 19:49.50 | kapat | dumezil: Unison works well for documents, but I would not use it to syncronize your entire home folder. And it's simpler to use than darcs or subversion (at least it is for me). |
| 19:50.00 | dumezil | thanks for the input... |
| 19:50.03 | orafu | mhall: ;) |
| 19:50.08 | abrotman | mhall: http://danleff.net/burningiso.html .. my google-fu sucks today |
| 19:50.16 | kapat | dumezil: And you can script up an icon to automatically sync them by clicking a button. That's what I did for my wife. |
| 19:50.44 | Mr0bvious | http://www.homepna.org/support/faqs.asp#FAQ6_Q1 <-Here is some info on installing the HPNA linux driver for anyone curious, or you guys can go trhough that website and learn a bit more about HPNA. |
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| 19:50.57 | dumezil | kapat: any idea how to get linux to recognize connection states? like when i connect ot my home network to initate a sync, but otherwise don't? |
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| 19:51.01 | kapat | I added a bonding alias to /etc/modutils.d/aliases, but it's not loading the module on boot. Anyone know why? |
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| 19:51.10 | mhall | Mr0bvious: good of those mofos to make a driver |
| 19:51.18 | mhall | Mr0bvious: now why can't they put it in the kernel |
| 19:51.27 | aFlag | enigma is sending spam to who joins #debian |
| 19:51.37 | aFlag | Enigma-T[Away] |
| 19:51.43 | Mr0bvious | mhall: I tried compiling it for a 2.6 kernel on Mandriva 2005LE and it just did not like it at all. |
| 19:51.48 | johnsu01 | kapat: I agree, I would use something like subversion if the situation is that the files are often being worked on in two or more different places. I used unison more for read-only things or data that I wasn't editing often. |
| 19:52.05 | kapat | dumezil: there are probably a hundred ways to do that. What are you using to configure the network? |
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| 19:52.33 | abrotman | mhall: not very definitive :) |
| 19:52.44 | Isil`Zha | does anybody know a program that can relay a realvideo stream? |
| 19:52.49 | dumezil | kapat: honestly i don't know... dhcp... nothing more spectacular than that i guess. |
| 19:52.58 | kapat | dumezil: The if-post-up scripts might be an option, or somethink like whereami |
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| 19:53.09 | johnsu01 | Isil`Zha: mplayer can do it, but you have to have the proprietary codecs. |
| 19:53.39 | aFlag | now, other thing, i have 20gb for the / (with /home in a separate partition), but it seems way too much, how much gigs would you recommend for a desktop computer? |
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| 19:53.46 | _ganymed | are there known hardware issue in debian testing. since i upgraded from sarge i get random kernel panics....? |
| 19:53.59 | Isil`Zha | johnsu01: is it accessible through command line? |
| 19:54.08 | abrotman | i doubt there is a hardware issue in testing .. maybe a software issue that affects your hardware :) |
| 19:54.12 | kasmeta_ | i need to install debian on machine w/o cdrom - only fast lan based internet and brand new unpartitioned cdrom what i have to do ? |
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| 19:54.25 | abrotman | !tell kasmeta_ about sarge bf |
| 19:54.30 | Mr0bvious | Would CD-1 contain stuff for gmake? |
| 19:54.30 | abrotman | kasmeta_: wait .. no floppy either ? |
| 19:54.31 | johnsu01 | Isil`Zha: Yes, however, it is not in the official debian :) I imagine other players like xmms probably can too if you have the evil codecs. |
| 19:54.33 | kasmeta_ | hard disk sorry |
| 19:54.34 | abrotman | !cd contents |
| 19:54.34 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
| 19:54.47 | kapat | kasmeta_: You can use a lan boot, but you have to have another computer with a tftp and dhcp server |
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| 19:54.56 | abrotman | kasmeta_: does the NIC support PXE things? |
| 19:55.02 | kapat | kasmeta_: or you could try booting from a usb drive |
| 19:55.18 | abrotman | !usb-install |
| 19:55.18 | dpkg | from memory, usb-install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian (sarge) from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 19:55.22 | Mr0bvious | Should work. |
| 19:55.23 | kasmeta_ | abortman:what is pxe ? |
| 19:55.35 | Isil`Zha | johnsu01: ok i'll check that. thank you! |
| 19:55.35 | abrotman | kasmeta_: the magic to do a network install :) |
| 19:55.58 | kapat | kasmeta_: See here for a list of various installation boot methods: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/index.html |
| 19:56.26 | kasmeta_ | abortman:the NIC is with 8139d chipset - brand new |
| 19:56.27 | abrotman | someday .. i'd like to meet someone who has successfully done a tftp install :) |
| 19:56.45 | abrotman | kasmeta_: you'll have to find out if it supports PXE .. you have no floppy and can't boot off usb ? |
| 19:57.01 | mhall | Isil`Zha: VNC has some media relaying features |
| 19:57.08 | mhall | Isil`Zha: but i have to ask why it is needed |
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| 19:58.06 | bobw | anyone know of a table that shows IP protocol ID's....I need a PPP id , ethereal is showing a bunch of different ones, 0x03-0x08 |
| 19:58.16 | kasmeta_ | abortman:also i have a computer with CD and winXP if i atach the new hard and boot with knoppix to partition the drive what more i have to do ? |
| 19:58.28 | Isil`Zha | mhall: to be honest it is needed to bypass a geolocation check but i will only relay it for myself |
| 19:58.30 | abrotman | !tell tjorven about root |
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| 19:58.48 | abrotman | kasmeta_: you have no floppy and can't boot off usb ? correct? |
| 19:59.06 | stew | bobw: /etc/protocols |
| 19:59.06 | mhall | Isil`Zha: i don't care if you cheating around something dumb; i just wanted to know the application domain so i could cook up a fix |
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| 19:59.27 | kasmeta_ | abortman:i have floppy |
| 19:59.34 | abrotman | kasmeta_: and broadband ? |
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| 19:59.40 | sdvsdg | abrotman: integrity of cd-rom still failing at 8x. Do i want power-burn?, should write method be "Track-at-once" or "Disc-at-once" or "Disc-at-once/96"? |
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| 19:59.59 | abrotman | sdvsdg: wtf is power-burn ? |
| 20:00.12 | sdvsdg | an option in nero |
| 20:00.17 | bobw | stew, i dont see PPP in there...does yours have one? |
| 20:00.18 | Isil`Zha | mhall: hmmm sorry i don't really know what you mean |
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| 20:00.28 | judgen | now im not root |
| 20:00.37 | abrotman | sdvsdg: i just "File->BurnISO" .. go at 8x .. leave other options as default |
| 20:00.40 | stew | bobw: no, i don't think that is a ip level protocol, i think its a layer4 protocol |
| 20:00.41 | kasmeta_ | abortman:yes |
| 20:00.50 | mhall | Isil`Zha: no worries; i speak with many idioms; i'll rephrase in a minute |
| 20:00.50 | abrotman | kasmeta_: you can use floppies .. |
| 20:00.53 | abrotman | !sarge bf |
| 20:00.53 | dpkg | [sarge floppies] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitute your arch for i386 |
| 20:01.16 | bobw | yes, it's on top of the IP protocol |
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| 20:01.52 | bobw | stew, it's not TCP though, its like 3.5?? |
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| 20:03.06 | bobw | stew, i am looking for a protocol ID for the IP service type |
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| 20:03.36 | stew | bobw: afaik all the well know ip protocol numbers are in /etc/protocols |
| 20:04.33 | stew | ^know^known |
| 20:04.34 | chops | Can anyone recommend a good solution for a flexible NAT router and firewall for a small network? |
| 20:04.37 | blondie | hmm upgrading from 2.6.12 to .15 makes boot time get very fast |
| 20:04.43 | blondie | chops: iptables? |
| 20:05.17 | chops | blondie: Hardware is what I'm looking for, sorry :-). Yes, a Debian box stuffed with NICs would be ideal if I could get reliable hardware cheaply. |
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| 20:05.26 | chops | s/could/can/ |
| 20:06.06 | Tallu | Well you could always go for cisco 3000 and have vpn and everything all set. hehe. |
| 20:06.07 | stew | bobw: http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/topic/ipsuite.htm doesn't list it as transport layer |
| 20:06.15 | blondie | chops: could not can :P |
| 20:06.27 | blondie | anyway, there's no such thing as a hardware firewall :\ |
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| 20:06.41 | dut | hello all |
| 20:06.43 | blondie | you only need two NICs |
| 20:06.57 | ATF | Hi. Is there an alternative to apt-get dist-upgrade no-remove that doesn't abort but just ignores the things that require removes? |
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| 20:07.06 | stew | bobw: right, its layer 2, below ip |
| 20:07.08 | blondie | you can get some quite decent "hardware" routers that run debian :P |
| 20:07.17 | blondie | s/debian/linux/ |
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| 20:07.35 | Overand | heh |
| 20:07.43 | Overand | so md5 error on the grub package |
| 20:07.55 | Overand | and for some reason it hosed the windows install too |
| 20:07.58 | Overand | even though grub never ran |
| 20:07.59 | Overand | go figure |
| 20:08.39 | tyranix | chops: inet ---> Debian firewall/router --> switch --> small network. Only need 2 NICs for the Debian machine. Switch has all the other ports. |
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| 20:08.52 | chops | blondie: Well, it needs to do _slightly_ more complicated routing than just 2 interfaces + NAT... as I said, really I want a Debian box stuffed with NICs, but buying a full 1U server to do that is more expensive than I |
| 20:08.54 | chops | 'd like |
| 20:09.20 | bobw | stew, on my ethereal I see PPP is 4th. First it goes, Frame, then Ethernet, then IP, then PPP |
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| 20:09.22 | blondie | well |
| 20:09.27 | chops | ... and all the Cisco etc. solutions I looked at are (a) things I don't know how to operate and (b) expensive. |
| 20:09.30 | Andy298 | how do i make a symbolic link? |
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| 20:09.53 | blondie | the only really cheap options are gonna just route between two interfaces |
| 20:10.01 | dut | Andy298, ln -s |
| 20:10.03 | dut | Andy298, man ln |
| 20:11.00 | KerPlunk | In testing, there was a fireball icon(.png) that came with the mozilla-firefox package...But in unstable...there is no fireball icon(.png) that comes with sid...is it a trademark thing for the firefox icon...is that why it's not in anymore? |
| 20:11.01 | kasmeta_ | abortman:i can use floppy but only if i can do install easy is better |
| 20:11.01 | Tallu | chops: the more you pay for a cisco the easier it is to operate, haha. but i guess the price is around 1000-2000 euros for anything really good |
| 20:11.01 | abrotman | kasmeta_: i've done many floppy installs .. pretty damn easy |
| 20:11.02 | blondie | chops: maybe look at http://www.soekris.com/ |
| 20:11.04 | kapat | chops: I use a normal pc for my home router. For a long time, I was using a P II 400 and it worked just fine. |
| 20:11.19 | kapat | chops: And you have all the flexability you will ever need. |
| 20:11.39 | kasmeta_ | abortman:give me link to floppy image please |
| 20:12.02 | Isil`Zha | mhall: about vnc: i actually couldn't make use of it as i don't use x on the server side. that's why i search for a relay |
| 20:12.09 | chops | blondie: Thx, I'll see if they have any with several interfaces... this is about what I want. |
| 20:12.12 | mhall | Isil`Zha: hmm |
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| 20:12.26 | blondie | chops: they do, up to 7 |
| 20:12.29 | mhall | Isil`Zha: can you use tor? |
| 20:12.33 | blondie | but you have to install the software yourself |
| 20:12.34 | abrotman | !sarge bf |
| 20:12.34 | dpkg | sarge floppies is probably http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitute your arch for i386 |
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| 20:12.42 | blondie | linux/bsd |
| 20:12.50 | tyranix | chops: How many interfaces do you need? You could buy a small soekris with 6 ports for around $350. |
| 20:12.51 | kimo | Hi, my hardware DSL router, connects to a switch then to 20 users. Is there anyway I can know which user is sucking up bandwidth ?? |
| 20:13.19 | Isil`Zha | mhall: i never heared of that before. what is it? |
| 20:13.49 | mhall | Isil`Zha: it's an internet anonymization service |
| 20:14.03 | mhall | Isil`Zha: free; run by EFF |
| 20:14.09 | mhall | !+tor |
| 20:14.09 | dpkg | methinks tor is a system of proxies to maintain anonymity, see http://tor.eff.org/ or not allowed on #debian, see http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#tor |
| 20:14.15 | _ganymed | ok, i get this when i boot my debian testing box: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference... kernel panic. any ideas? |
| 20:14.25 | |yang| | can I update/upgrade woody to sarge without problems? |
| 20:14.28 | Isil`Zha | mhall: hmm i tried something similar but in fact it slowed down the connection too much |
| 20:14.40 | mhall | _ganymed: can you say kernel bug or proprietary nonfree unsupported driver bug? i knew you could. ;-) |
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| 20:14.59 | tyranix | mhall: Relaying a video stream over tor? Surely you jest. :) I'm using tor for IRC and my lag is 50.15 right now. |
| 20:15.08 | mhall | tyranix: oof |
| 20:15.19 | mhall | tyranix: i knew it was bad; i didn't know it was *that* bad |
| 20:15.21 | _ganymed | mhall: what do you mean? |
| 20:15.25 | chops | tyranix: Right now I need 3 ports, but I'd like 5 or more so this solution can last for a while. This is an expanding small business. |
| 20:15.38 | roler | how do I show the keycodes of keys i'm pressing in X? |
| 20:15.42 | kapat | |yang|: The woody-> sarge upgrade is supported, but there is no guarantee it will be without problems. Some stuff will probably need reconfiguring. |
| 20:15.45 | MrObvious | Cisco for switches. |
| 20:15.54 | kimo | roler, xev |
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| 20:16.49 | Tallu | Cisco! |
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| 20:17.51 | kapat | chops: If cost is your primary constraint, and you are comfortable with linux networking, the cheapest thing is probably an old box stuffed with $10 nics. |
| 20:17.54 | chops | Tallu: (assuming you're talking to me) I'm not familiar with any Cisco kit, unfortunately. I'm open to learning it, but in poking around their website I couldn't even really get a sense of what product family I should have been looking at. |
| 20:18.05 | kapat | chops: You could probably find one with 5 pci slots, for 5 ports. |
| 20:18.26 | mhall | chops: that's because cisco's website is a sack of smashed assholes |
| 20:18.35 | chops | kapat: I'd like very reliable hardware, though. I've had experience with that solution, and it worked well for me except when one of the NICs would die. |
| 20:18.35 | abrotman | there's a lovely image |
| 20:18.44 | mhall | abrotman: but true |
| 20:19.21 | |yang| | I am having a problem with my server compaq...It has ISA slots upside, and whenever I stick another ISA UTP card inside it complains about starting hard disks...all reports go as FAILED. The UTP card sits correctly in the slot, and I also get a welcome BIOS screen at the start. |
| 20:19.40 | mhall | |yang|: ISA UTP? |
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| 20:19.57 | mhall | |yang|: you mean UTP Ethernet, i.e. 10/100BaseT ? |
| 20:20.01 | |yang| | yes |
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| 20:20.25 | mhall | thingfish: 'lo |
| 20:20.38 | thingfish | hey mhall |
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| 20:22.33 | chops | blondie: Yes, soekris looks like pretty much exactly what I want. Thanks very much! |
| 20:22.50 | cisse | chops: look into commell too they make boxes a little beefier than soekris |
| 20:22.58 | stew | chops: wrap boards are a better buy and i've heard good things about them |
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| 20:23.59 | _ganymed | well, now i get a fatal exception on interrupt... |
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| 20:25.20 | mhall | _ganymed: $hardware->isBroken() == TRUE |
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| 20:25.35 | stew | chops: http://www.pcengines.ch/ |
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| 20:26.57 | _ganymed | mhall: are you kidding me... is supposed to help me...? |
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| 20:28.22 | stew | _ganymed: you might run memtest86, it sounds like a hardware problem |
| 20:29.40 | mhall | !+memtest86 |
| 20:29.40 | dpkg | it has been said that memtest86 is http://memtest86.com/ |
| 20:29.47 | _ganymed | stew: i have done this. it shows everything was okay. however, i do not trust it. on another machine it told me it was both memory modules (i tested in all slots) and in the end it was the the board). |
| 20:30.20 | _ganymed | mhall: is it so unpleasant to talk to me? |
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| 20:31.19 | mhall | _ganymed: sorry; ich hab nur ein paar witze gemacht; er war kein ziel, dich zu verärgern |
| 20:31.31 | mhall | s/er/es/g |
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| 20:32.15 | _ganymed | mhaal: nun, tut mir leid, aber hier bin ich nicht zu witzen aufgelegt... wahrscheinlich ist das board hin... |
| 20:32.17 | ringo999 | hi, does anyone of you use (r)tin...where does the prog save the default NNTPSERVER? |
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| 20:33.12 | penguin__ | I have default debian setup. How come telnet server 25 gives connect failed? |
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| 20:33.34 | gnufan | penguin__: telnet daemon probably isn't running - use SSH instead |
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| 20:33.54 | jair_11 | guys I have a computer to test and contribute with Debian etch and sid but I am not sure if using the debian net-inst I can install the sid? |
| 20:34.00 | gnufan | penguin__: ignore me |
| 20:34.01 | mhall | _ganymed: was heißt 'wahrscheinlich ist das board hin'? war ein wenig zu idiomatisch für mich |
| 20:34.03 | penguin__ | telnet server 110 works |
| 20:34.09 | jair_11 | I know how to install stable. all the time I have done stable. |
| 20:34.19 | mhall | penguin__: telnet is a bad thing to use |
| 20:34.24 | penguin__ | I dont think ssh works for either port |
| 20:34.25 | gnufan | penguin__: no mail server -- did you configure it during install |
| 20:34.47 | penguin__ | Not sure. But how to find out? |
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| 20:35.00 | mhall | dpkg, telnetsmite $1 is <action> is going to h4x j00, $1! |
| 20:35.00 | dpkg | mhall: okay |
| 20:35.10 | gnufan | penguin__: which email server - exim -- I think "dpkg-reconfigure -plow exim-config" |
| 20:35.10 | mhall | !telnetsmite penguin__ |
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| 20:35.28 | penguin__ | Acually I must have a mail server as telnet localhost 25 works. |
| 20:35.37 | mhall | !+open ports |
| 20:35.37 | dpkg | somebody said open ports was netstat -plunt, or lsof -i -n, or (also, see 'open files') |
| 20:35.42 | _ganymed | mhall: wenn es nicht der speicher ist (den ich schon ausgewechselt habe), und alles andere scheint zu funktionieren, dann muss es am board liegen. |
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| 20:36.13 | mhall | _ganymed: ah-ha board heißt 'motherboard' |
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| 20:36.23 | mhall | _ganymed: now i understand |
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| 20:37.05 | mhall | _ganymed: there is a time i had a system that decided to start running at half the proper clock rate |
| 20:37.07 | penguin__ | So where to see why port is available locally but not remotely? |
| 20:37.17 | mhall | _ganymed: i kept wondering why and i finally figured it out |
| 20:37.20 | mhall | penguin__: trivial |
| 20:37.30 | penguin__ | I figured that |
| 20:37.39 | penguin__ | OK so what is it? |
| 20:37.49 | gnufan | penguin__: the lsof command he suggests shows that - so does "netstat -an" IIRC |
| 20:37.58 | mhall | penguin__: you have to look at what it's bound onto |
| 20:38.07 | mhall | penguin__: 0.0.0.0 means it is accessable from any ip |
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| 20:38.24 | mhall | _ganymed: the northbridge chip fan had died |
| 20:38.33 | gnufan | penguin__: but I think the config of the mail servers allows "only listens locally" so that probably means reconfiguring it fix it. |
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| 20:39.18 | angus | hello |
| 20:39.32 | _ganymed | mhall: well, i don't understand this messing with languages... but good idea... i'll check this |
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| 20:39.39 | angus | question: isn't there a D compiler in Debian, or I just miss it? |
| 20:39.53 | mhall | _ganymed: but i never noticed because the fan doesn't run when you have the PC off for repair |
| 20:40.03 | grandma_ | anyone know how i can change (for IRC): grandma@domain to diffuser@domain? |
| 20:40.28 | _ganymed | mhall: :) |
| 20:40.28 | mhall | _ganymed: about the 'messing with languages' i got the sense from your nickname and ip address to explain the problem in german so it'd be more clear |
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| 20:40.37 | mhall | _ganymed: but the officialy language of the channel is english |
| 20:40.48 | mhall | _ganymed: so people get really pissed off when you don't use it |
| 20:41.03 | mhall | _ganymed: and often threaten to kick you out of it so i use german very minimally |
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| 20:42.02 | penguin__ | What is the netstat command to see port 25? |
| 20:42.16 | gnufan | mhall: you could have invited him to debian-de.... or is that an icy wasteland? |
| 20:42.28 | buht-w | do i need the linux-headers package for anything if im doing a new kernel? |
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| 20:42.39 | gnufan | penguin__: netstat -an | grep :25 |
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| 20:42.44 | _ganymed | mhall: sometimes i have the feeling that "people" are a little bit stressed... let's say more than in other channels... but maybe it's because of me |
| 20:42.50 | yassine | how can i mount /dev/sdb1 ? |
| 20:42.58 | mhall | gnufan: well he came in in english |
| 20:42.59 | yassine | its contains an SFS fs |
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| 20:43.08 | kapat | penguin__: I prefer the lsof command. Try "lsof -i :25" |
| 20:43.12 | mhall | gnufan: so i didn't see the point if he could speak english well enough to get help |
| 20:43.24 | kapat | penguin__: You need to have the lsof package installed. |
| 20:43.35 | mhall | gnufan: i used to help in -de until some germans got real mad at me over nothing |
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| 20:44.33 | _ganymed | mhall: actually, all i exchanged was a defect hd with the same model and i updated to etch and kernel 2.6.13.2. in winxp a sometimes get a page fault error. so i guess the memory management sucks |
| 20:44.38 | penguin__ | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| 20:44.46 | penguin__ | What does that mean? |
| 20:44.51 | mhall | _ganymed: something has gotta be broken |
| 20:45.12 | _ganymed | mhall: but my fans work :) |
| 20:45.23 | penguin__ | So that means only available locally? |
| 20:45.36 | gnufan | penguin__: listening on 127.0.0.1 |
| 20:45.36 | sdvsdg | for a first time user installing i386 should I prefer debian 3.0r1, 3.1r0a, or 3.1r1? |
| 20:45.55 | penguin__ | So I need it to listen on its ip address? |
| 20:46.00 | mhall | _ganymed: hmm |
| 20:46.17 | kapat | penguin__: Are you trying to run an SMTP server? |
| 20:46.21 | mhall | !+dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:46.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, dpkg-reconfigure is a tool used to reconfigure packages |
| 20:46.30 | penguin__ | yes |
| 20:46.33 | mhall | penguin__: try dpkg-reconfigure 'ing the daemon |
| 20:46.50 | kapat | penguin__: What server are you using? Exim? Postfix? |
| 20:46.53 | gnufan | penguin__: it will show 0.0.0.0:25 when listening on all IP addresses (well IPv4 anyway). |
| 20:46.54 | penguin__ | exim |
| 20:47.13 | |yang| | sdvsdg: just take the latest ISO from the website |
| 20:47.13 | penguin__ | I am almost completely default testing here. |
| 20:47.17 | kapat | penguin__: Try "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" |
| 20:47.40 | kapat | penguin__: And tell it to listen on all interfaces. |
| 20:47.55 | penguin__ | ty |
| 20:48.29 | mhall | Is there a tool for unzipping shit that doesn't have the hopelessly fucked interface of unzip and acts more like, say, tar? |
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| 20:48.53 | gnufan | mhall: whats wrong with unzip? |
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| 20:49.32 | mhall | gnufan: well i dislike having to be like, for file in *; do unzip $file; done; |
| 20:50.01 | buht-w | where in /proc can i see what hardware info was seen during boot on my nic's like 3com and intel etc? i want to make sure i do my new kernel completely right |
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| 20:50.15 | yassine | i want to use a drive as a back up drive should i create ext partition on it or extended ? |
| 20:50.26 | tyranix | sdvsdg: Use 3.1r1 but if you have 3.1r0a media already, just install that and then upgrade. |
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| 20:51.11 | roler | is there a trick to getting the FN-any key working on a particular laptop? |
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| 20:51.24 | _rene_ | depends on the laptop |
| 20:51.39 | _ganymed | thanks for the help. ciao |
| 20:51.52 | stew | roler: what do you mean by working? you want to use it like a regular key? |
| 20:52.38 | gnufan | mhall: I see - don't think I ever had more than one zip file at a time. |
| 20:52.45 | kapat | buht-w: You can use dmesg to see your boot messages, otherwise lspci might be what you're looking for. |
| 20:52.46 | roler | stew; well,. It's weird. My laptops FN-Mute/Unmute key works... But I have another key i'd like to assign in 'Keyboard Shortcuts'. It is FN-Lock. I wanted it to lock my system when pressed. But it doesn't seem to recognize that key combination |
| 20:52.58 | jdhutchin1 | roler, yeah, it depends on the laptop |
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| 20:53.09 | jdhutchin1 | I know there are utilities for toshiba laptops that work pretty well (fnfxd) |
| 20:53.18 | setuid | How does one build a .deb from a compiled source tree? There's some fu for it... debian-builder? |
| 20:53.53 | roler | jdhutchin1, ; unfortunately it doesn't work on mine. Mine is a P25 with Pheonix bios. I do have the P25 Hotkeys utilitiy that allows the multi media buttons to work |
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| 20:54.47 | stew | roler: if you don't see events being fired in xev when you hit the key, you won't be able to bind it |
| 20:54.53 | tyranix | mhall: Ahh that is a silly interface. If you do this: 'unzip *.zip', then it won't work because it treats the second one as a file specification. But if you do 'unzip "*.zip"', then it will work as expected on all files. |
| 20:55.01 | stew | setuid: /msg dpkg mg |
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| 20:55.12 | mhall | tyranix: lol sweet trick |
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| 20:56.36 | gnufan | !tell stew about tell |
| 20:56.43 | roler | stew; thanks thats all I needed to know. now i can leave well enough alone. :) |
| 20:56.58 | setuid | stew: thanks |
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| 20:58.32 | Mwongozi | Afternoon all. Is it possible to change the resolution of the grub menu? I want to connect my PC to my HDTV, but it won't display the boot menu because the resolution is too low... |
| 20:59.11 | roler | stew; you rock... :) |
| 20:59.13 | mhall | What's the quick UNIX utility way to convert all \n's into spaces in some shit from a pipe? |
| 20:59.19 | bobw | stew, are you still around...i found out more about the PPP and IP ID |
| 20:59.36 | chops | mhall: perl -pe 's/\n/ /g' |
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| 21:00.30 | mhall | chops: i had sed -e 's,\n, ,g' |
| 21:00.38 | mhall | chops: but it Didn't Work (TM) |
| 21:00.39 | stew | mhall: tr '\n' ' ' |
| 21:00.46 | mhall | stew: hehe w00t |
| 21:01.08 | stew | actually that might not work either |
| 21:01.21 | stew | actually it does |
| 21:01.38 | chops | Hi! You might remember me from 30 minutes ago, when I was asking about cheap routing hardware suitable for putting Linux on. |
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| 21:01.57 | Mwongozi | Are you Troy McClure? |
| 21:02.04 | mhall | find . -type d | sed -e 's,./,,g' | tr '\n.' ' ' | xargs echo |
| 21:02.06 | mhall | what a hack |
| 21:02.07 | mhall | lol |
| 21:02.14 | chops | blondie suggested soekris, which looks very good. My next question is: Does anyone know what kind of routing performance I can expect from a 266MHz 586? |
| 21:02.32 | mhall | chops: infinite |
| 21:02.35 | mhall | chops: try ipcop |
| 21:02.43 | gnufan | chops: how much bandwidth do you need to route? |
| 21:02.45 | shadfc | anyone know what happened with the latest sudo upgrade in Sarge? After upgrading, it doesnt seem to hold onto my $HOME, $SHELL |
| 21:02.58 | chops | mhall: Can Linux do NAT + static routing at 100mbps on that hardware? |
| 21:03.01 | bbrazil | mhall: xargs does echo by default if you don't specify a command |
| 21:03.15 | mhall | chops: full 100 megabit enterprise link? |
| 21:03.20 | mhall | bbrazil: lol sweet |
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| 21:03.59 | peterS | mhall: if you're gonna use sed and tr in the same pipeline, may as well use sed -e 's///' -e 'y///'. that is, the sed 'y' command is an implementation of tr |
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| 21:04.14 | bobw | stew, are you around? |
| 21:04.15 | chops | mhall: No, it's just that I've got a NATed intranet, with some servers on a separate local network, and it would be very nice if I could get 100mbps between them. |
| 21:04.21 | mhall | peterS: hehe |
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| 21:04.32 | mhall | chops: yeah it should be ok for that |
| 21:04.34 | stew | bobw: yes |
| 21:04.38 | bbrazil | mhall: what exactly is that one liner meant to do? |
| 21:04.46 | gnufan | chops: you might be pushing it to keep 100Mbps - depends a lot on how interrupts are handled by the network cards, as this affects CPU usage greatly... try it with an old PC first... |
| 21:05.01 | XoR_ | please help me -> fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
| 21:05.01 | XoR_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:05.17 | peterS | XoR_: /msg dpkg search |
| 21:05.19 | XoR_ | what is make-jpkg |
| 21:05.21 | XoR_ | ? |
| 21:05.24 | mhall | chops: but you know it might well be easier to get a multiport netcard for a normal box |
| 21:05.25 | Jhair | XoR_: a package |
| 21:05.27 | peterS | XoR_: there are ways to figure out what package make-jpkg is in |
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| 21:05.31 | mhall | chops: and it would probably cost less |
| 21:05.32 | stew | XoR_: /msg dpkg java-package |
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| 21:06.35 | mhall | bbrazil: well hack on a tree of shitty zip files |
| 21:06.54 | XoR_ | make-jpkg: command not found |
| 21:07.04 | |yang| | i am getting bunch of unresolved dependancies when trying to remove xfree86-common ... |
| 21:07.11 | mhall | for dir in $(find . -type d | sed -e 's,./,,g' | tr '\n.' ' ' | xargs); do mv $dir/* .; done |
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| 21:07.43 | chops | mhall: Hmm; but then I'd be paying for all the functionality of the normal PC... the soekris will cost ~$300 + the cost of a CF card. |
| 21:08.03 | bbrazil | mhall: I don't think that handles subdirs properly at all |
| 21:08.15 | chops | mhall: Of course, the soekris solution I wanted isn't in stock right now, either :-/ |
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| 21:08.35 | teknotus | hmm I hosed X on my desktop. I think upgrading libc6 or something caused tons of things to segfault during the upgrade process, and now x won't start. Is there any way to tell debian to just try to reinstall everything from the package cache? |
| 21:08.37 | stew | chops: did you look at the wrap boards? |
| 21:08.56 | |yang| | unresolved dependancies = http://pastebin.com/560170 |
| 21:09.19 | mhall | chops: but you can get an entire Dell 1U for less money on sale using h4x0r coupon codes |
| 21:09.28 | mhall | chops: and then bust out with a multiport netcard |
| 21:09.34 | XoR_ | apt-get install java-package -> E: Couldn't find package java-package |
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| 21:09.45 | mhall | bbrazil: but i know some secrets about the tree |
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| 21:09.55 | mhall | bbrazil: so it works with the assumptions of how it's configured |
| 21:10.21 | bbrazil | mhall: hmm, I'll assume you know what you're up to |
| 21:10.29 | mhall | bbrazil: crappy stuff |
| 21:10.31 | kapat | XoR_: What lines do you have in your /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 21:10.48 | stew | XoR_: its in contrib ; /msg dpkg contrib |
| 21:12.14 | gnufan | |yang|: why are you trying to remove xfree86-common |
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| 21:12.58 | tictac | bah. more people should sell intel Ether Express ISA cards on ebay |
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| 21:13.34 | |yang| | gnufan: I don't need X anymore there |
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| 21:13.36 | gnufan | XoR_: probably in contrib or non-free |
| 21:13.48 | teknotus | My natural tendency with most ISA cards is to recycle them |
| 21:13.49 | chops | stew: Hmm... are there wrap boards with more than three interfaces? |
| 21:14.07 | |yang| | teknotus: maybe you can answer to my problem |
| 21:14.17 | |yang| | I am having a problem with my server compaq...It has ISA slots upside, and whenever I stick another ISA UTP card inside it complains about starting hard disks...all reports go as FAILED. The UTP ethernet card sits correctly in the slot, and I also get a welcome BIOS screen at the start. |
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| 21:14.24 | XoR_ | kapat: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.debian.org sid/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_contrib_binary-i386_Pa...... |
| 21:14.47 | kapat | |yang|: I would use aptitude, and see what stuff breaks when you remove xfree86-common. Then you can decide if you would like to remove that package as well, or leave xfree86-common installed. |
| 21:15.02 | stew | chops: dunno |
| 21:15.11 | XoR_ | kapat: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian sid contrib |
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| 21:15.28 | chops | stew: I couldn't find any is what I'm saying :-). I might have missed something though. |
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| 21:15.48 | kapat | XoR_: I would make that something like: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian sid main contrib |
| 21:16.00 | XoR_ | hmmm |
| 21:16.01 | XoR_ | ok |
| 21:16.02 | kapat | XoR_: Then run apt-get update |
| 21:16.30 | mgoetze | how can i get apt-proxy to also provide some locally-generated packages? |
| 21:16.57 | gnufan | |yang|: hmm -- try also "dpkg --audit" -- I think it should offer to remove things -- suspect something is awry already before you try and remove xfree86-common |
| 21:17.00 | kapat | mgoetze: Do you need apt-proxy if they are locally generated? Do you have a local repository? |
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| 21:17.27 | mgoetze | kapat: well, i didn't really want to install another http server, that's why i would prefer to do it with apt-proxy |
| 21:17.47 | mgoetze | kapat: also, i can't seem to apt-move the packages anywhere, since they're not in the apt cache yet |
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| 21:18.02 | Red_Cloud | Is anyone familiar with the free encrypted internet phone service "Skype"? http://www.skype.com/ |
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| 21:18.14 | johnsu01 | "free" |
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| 21:18.26 | mgoetze | Red_Cloud: insofar as i've installed it on mac os x, yes |
| 21:18.28 | kapat | mgoetze: Well, they have to be in *some* repository to use apt-proxy with them. |
| 21:18.50 | |yang| | gnufan: it doesnt want to be removed with apt-get remove xfree86-common |
| 21:19.12 | mgoetze | kapat: does apt-proxy have an undocumented file:// backend? |
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| 21:19.45 | nexit | buenas |
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| 21:20.04 | gnufan | |yang|: understood - but I suspect it shows a more basic "apt" problem... as it should... |
| 21:20.10 | Red_Cloud | mgoetze, is the service satisfactory? I have a 2.8 Gh processor and was wondering if the buffer delay would make any conversations surreal. |
| 21:20.10 | teknotus | Red_Cloud: It is free as in gratis, not free as in freedom. I think they have debian packages, but being proprietary software I am reluctant to install them. |
| 21:20.14 | fract77 | what is the "best" way to configure my wlan? I have to run a few commands to bring my madwifi-wlan up... how do I connect automagically? |
| 21:20.41 | mgoetze | Red_Cloud: my 900 MHz G3 doesn't seem to be the bottleneck generally |
| 21:21.11 | kapat | mgoetze: It does not have a file backend that I know of. |
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| 21:21.33 | teknotus | Why not go with a standards complient solution like SIP? |
| 21:21.33 | Red_Cloud | teknotus, I understand your concern, but was not aware that a debian package was not open source. Thanks for the education. |
| 21:21.43 | johnsu01 | Red_Cloud: You might look into free software like asterisk and kphone or iaxcomm instead. |
| 21:21.49 | kapat | fract77: There are a lot of options. The easiest may be to configure /etc/network/interface for your wireless card. |
| 21:22.00 | capiCrimm | gcc isn't compiling c++ files on my sarge, but throwing an error about cc1plus does not exist(g++ works fine)? |
| 21:22.20 | kapat | fract77: See "man interfaces" |
| 21:22.20 | mgoetze | kapat: ok, so let's say i give in and install another http server, how do i get apt-move to move the packages into a local repository without installing them? |
| 21:22.31 | gnufan | |yang|: alternatively force it to remove, and use deborphan to clean up |
| 21:22.31 | mgoetze | kapat: or is apt-move the wrong program for that job? |
| 21:22.47 | kapat | mgoetze: I'm not familiar with apt-move. What is it that you are trying to accomplish? |
| 21:22.50 | Red_Cloud | johnsu01, I was very interested in the Skype because of the encryption, but if other services are offered that are encrypted, then that would be acceptable. |
| 21:23.13 | fract77 | kapat: what about ifplugd / laptop-netconf? |
| 21:23.26 | johnsu01 | Red_Cloud: I see. I know people were working on gpg encryption for asterisk, but I'm not sure if that's working now or not. |
| 21:23.26 | mgoetze | kapat: distribute locally built-gathered packages (e.g. pine, fglrx-driver) to several workstations |
| 21:23.42 | kapat | fract77: Those are options too. It's up to you which one you prefer. |
| 21:24.28 | kapat | mgoetze: Well, if it's just a couple you could scp them to each box in the apt cache folder, then apt-get install them, or dpkg -i them. |
| 21:24.28 | gnufan | Red_Cloud: the performance on that hardware will be fine |
| 21:25.01 | kapat | mgoetze: Otherwise a local repository is the only thing that comes to mind. There are some how-to's for setting up a local repository. |
| 21:25.12 | abrotman | !gizmo |
| 21:25.12 | dpkg | rumour has it, gizmo is http://www.gizmoproject.com/ .. A VoIP project |
| 21:25.16 | Red_Cloud | gnufan, I will try the service and see if it is satisfactory |
| 21:25.24 | teknotus | Red_Cloud: a .deb is an archive that needs to have a few specific things in it, but source code is not one of them. Source packages for debian are usually .tar.gz ,and possibly two other files to go with that such as a patch to turn original source into a source package that debian can turn into a deb. |
| 21:25.32 | gnufan | Red_Cloud: there is a very good article on Skype encryption by a guy called in to review their security algorithms.... but off topic here - nothing to do with Debian |
| 21:25.36 | mgoetze | kapat: yes, that's exactly what i'm trying to avoid :) i have several unopened boxes of new computers in my office.... |
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| 21:26.38 | kapat | mgoetze: Well, the only two ideas I have are just copying a bunch of debs around, or the local repository. Doesn't mean there is not a better soultion however. |
| 21:26.49 | mhall | gnufan: [ot] but bloody hell, it doesn't have a PKI and check fingerprints; so what in the world is the point |
| 21:26.55 | Red_Cloud | gnufan, do you know if Skype is being considered for any future debian releases? |
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| 21:27.11 | mgoetze | Red_Cloud: definitely not |
| 21:27.24 | mhall | Red_Cloud: It's proprietary software with no source code. |
| 21:27.29 | mhall | !tell Red_Cloud about nonfree |
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| 21:27.35 | gnufan | Red_Cloud: if they free the source code.... I'm sure they would |
| 21:27.48 | mhall | Red_Cloud: What's more, their code depends on some seriously broken libraries and cannot be recompiled off of them. |
| 21:27.51 | mgoetze | kapat: well, thanks for your help |
| 21:27.59 | Red_Cloud | OK, gotcha. |
| 21:28.13 | mhall | Red_Cloud: And to get into nonfree they'd have to let us ship out copies. |
| 21:28.38 | gnufan | mhall: I always forget about non-free ;) |
| 21:28.41 | mhall | Red_Cloud: Which they might not do, and now that they're owned by a large corporation the red tape could be hideous and they would expect us to navigate it to do them a favor. |
| 21:28.48 | mhall | gnufan: probably good that you do |
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| 21:29.25 | justletters | i apt-get fluxbox. do i need to conf something in X to make it work? |
| 21:29.39 | Red_Cloud | OK, let me check out asterisk, kphone,and iaxcomm |
| 21:30.22 | Red_Cloud | Is "asterisk" the correct spelling? |
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| 21:31.09 | capiCrimm | No one knows the package I need for gcc to compile cpp files? |
| 21:31.19 | tarzeau | capiCrimm: g++ |
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| 21:31.36 | epsilon | you have build essential installed? |
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| 21:32.35 | abrotman | !b-e capiCrimm |
| 21:32.36 | dpkg | capiCrimm: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 21:32.38 | capiCrimm | epsilon, nope. That was the one I was looking for thanks. |
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| 21:32.46 | FlopsyPete | is there a place/site that keeps track of changes in Debian Testing or Unstable? |
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| 21:33.02 | abrotman | FlopsyPete: what kind of changes? |
| 21:33.48 | mhall | Red_Cloud: yeah that looks spelled right |
| 21:33.58 | epsilon | capiCrimm: if compiling failes, alway install related *-dev package |
| 21:34.05 | Red_Cloud | mhall, thanks for the confirmation |
| 21:34.08 | kspath | capiCrimm: while the following may not really be an answer: apt-cache search cpp |
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| 21:34.45 | FlopsyPete | abrotman: new software updates for major packages (Testings just had updates to GNOME, OpenOffice, udev, etc whcih are relevant to deaktop users) and changes within packages that affect one's life with Debian. I'm tempted to start such a list but would rather not if one exists already |
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| 21:35.17 | donofrio_ | what is sarge? |
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| 21:35.29 | kspath | stable |
| 21:35.34 | kspath | sarge is stable |
| 21:35.38 | donofrio_ | is it sid? |
| 21:35.44 | kspath | sid is an unstable child |
| 21:35.45 | abrotman | FlopsyPete: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/accepted.html |
| 21:35.47 | gnufan | !tell donofrio_ about releases |
| 21:35.56 | kapat | FlopsyPete: There is this this site, that lists the packages that are going into testing: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/accepted.html |
| 21:35.59 | abrotman | FlopsyPete: there's also ftp-master.debian.org/new.html |
| 21:36.02 | mhall | Red_Cloud: you bet; speling is a bitch |
| 21:36.22 | abrotman | FlopsyPete: erm .. that's not what you want .. |
| 21:36.23 | abrotman | !incoming |
| 21:36.23 | dpkg | well, incoming is to be used at your own risk, packages are even dodgier than unstable(see break) but can be got from http://incoming.debian.org/ (but not ftp), or http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources#s-incoming-system |
| 21:37.15 | FlopsyPete | abrotman: ooh, the search feature at bjorn.haxx is pretty cool |
| 21:37.20 | abrotman | FlopsyPete: it is |
| 21:38.35 | FlopsyPete | abrotman: thanks for that. I'll fiddle with those for a while and see if they fit the bill |
| 21:38.44 | mhall | bbrazil: here was my final command |
| 21:38.47 | mhall | bbrazil: for dir in $(find . -type d | sed -e 's,./,,g' | tr '\n.' ' ' | xargs); do cd $dir; unzip *.zip; cd ..; done |
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| 21:40.16 | bbrazil | mhall: hmm, find -type d -execdir unzip "{}/*.zip" \; |
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| 21:41.11 | bbrazil | mhall: actually, gnu find doesn't seem to support execdr |
| 21:41.13 | intero | hi |
| 21:41.30 | intero | does anyone know where i can find an old copy of eclipse-platform-common_3.1.1-8_all.deb without recompiling? |
| 21:41.50 | abrotman | !snapshot |
| 21:41.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian snapshot is http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
| 21:42.06 | intero | abrotman: but i'll have to recompile, no? |
| 21:42.18 | mhall | bbrazil: which one does? |
| 21:42.25 | abrotman | intero: look .. should be there |
| 21:42.32 | bbrazil | mhall: solaris |
| 21:42.50 | mhall | bbrazil: what?!? solaris find has features now?!? didn't back when i needed it |
| 21:42.52 | mhall | !+ep |
| 21:42.52 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 21:42.54 | pearl | is it true that the debian servers are really slow today? |
| 21:43.01 | bbrazil | mhall: yeah, I'm thinking the same |
| 21:43.08 | mhall | bbrazil: ep you mean |
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| 21:43.14 | abrotman | intero: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/01/08/debian/pool/main/e/eclipse/ |
| 21:43.22 | dondelelcaro | pearl: we have servers all over the planet. Which ones are you talking about? |
| 21:43.23 | abrotman | !prize me |
| 21:43.23 | mhall | bbrazil: i usually complain about myself first before everybody else jumps on the bandwagon |
| 21:43.35 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: all? |
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| 21:43.40 | bbrazil | mhall: this should do it: find -type d -exec unzip -d {} {}/"*.zip" \; |
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| 21:43.49 | intero | abrotman: yea, found it too. thanks alot |
| 21:43.58 | mhall | bbrazil: no it won't |
| 21:44.03 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: teh internat its br0k3n? |
| 21:44.04 | mhall | bbrazil: no '.' |
| 21:44.31 | bbrazil | mhall: no '.' ? |
| 21:44.32 | stew | dondelelcaro: i crashed it but its rebooting |
| 21:44.47 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: VP must have gone trigger happy at MCI ... |
| 21:44.47 | dondelelcaro | stew: you should drive more carefullly |
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| 21:45.01 | pearl | dondelelcaro: iam talking about the german one |
| 21:45.15 | abrotman | there is a swiss mirror |
| 21:45.17 | pearl | ftp.de.debian.org and ftp2.de.debian.org |
| 21:45.21 | donofrio_ | is thire synaptic and such for sarge |
| 21:45.35 | pearl | synaptic is a package manager, right? |
| 21:45.36 | dondelelcaro | pearl: those are just mirrors. If they're slow, pick another set of mirrors in .de |
| 21:45.47 | abrotman | donofrio_: yes .. synaptic is in sarge |
| 21:45.55 | pearl | dondelelcaro: i download it now from ftp.freenet.de |
| 21:46.30 | pearl | dpkg: !mirror |
| 21:46.36 | pearl | hehe :D |
| 21:46.39 | donofrio_ | pearl: yes |
| 21:46.40 | abrotman | !tell pearl about mirrors |
| 21:46.40 | FlopsyPete | looks like the 'gnome' package is becoming 'meta-gnome2' |
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| 21:46.57 | wwallace | hello to all |
| 21:47.07 | wwallace | i have a problem installing vmware |
| 21:47.12 | wwallace | http://pastebin.com/560206 |
| 21:47.13 | abrotman | ask #vmware |
| 21:47.18 | wwallace | oh ok |
| 21:47.21 | wwallace | hi abrotman |
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| 21:47.32 | donofrio_ | is thiew a live sarge that is hdinstallable from that cdrom? |
| 21:47.32 | dark_light | hello wwallace |
| 21:47.46 | dondelelcaro | donofrio_: no. We don't distribute live CDs |
| 21:47.50 | abrotman | donofrio_: there is a netinstaller .. no liveCD for sarge |
| 21:47.55 | wwallace | hi dondelelcaro |
| 21:47.59 | wwallace | hi dark_light |
| 21:48.16 | donofrio_ | dondelelcaro: why? hu? |
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| 21:48.42 | donofrio_ | dondelelcaro: I've only got dsl 768 @home )-: |
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| 21:50.18 | dondelelcaro | donofrio_: that's more than fast enough to do a net install |
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| 21:50.38 | apfel | after updating debian, for example, xpdf, mathematica, and xine start up in a very tiny window (25x25 maybe) and xpdf/mathematica have a black background where it used to be white before. any ideas what's the reason for this? |
| 21:51.14 | gibico | ?? |
| 21:51.35 | abrotman | gibico: !! |
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| 21:51.55 | kspath | abrotman: ?? |
| 21:52.01 | m4lu6 | sh**. grub. anyway to tell it to install to hd0 from the commandline, or do i need to run that d*$@ned interface? |
| 21:52.20 | abrotman | update-grub? grub-install ? |
| 21:52.31 | m4lu6 | raw hd |
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| 21:53.25 | douglas | anyone know what code is used on sites like hotornot and ratemycameltoe |
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| 21:54.06 | dondelelcaro | douglas: a custom script; you can write one yourself. |
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| 21:54.14 | PDani | hi |
| 21:54.34 | dondelelcaro | hell, just grub; then device hd0 /dev/foo root(hd0,0) setup(hd0) or whatevr is appropriate. |
| 21:54.39 | douglas | which language would you recommend i learn to do that in? php |
| 21:54.47 | abrotman | douglas: whatever you know |
| 21:55.11 | dondelelcaro | douglas: any of perl, python, php, ruby, c, lisp, java, haskell, etc. will do it. |
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| 21:55.20 | abrotman | you forgot whitespace |
| 21:55.30 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: it was there! |
| 21:55.38 | dondelelcaro | or did you miss all the whitespace? |
| 21:55.49 | abrotman | my joke failed .. stupid abrotman |
| 21:56.05 | dondelelcaro | now... brainfuck... that was missing. |
| 21:56.11 | pe | I have lirc installed on my computer, but it's only able to understand the remote of my tv for now. Do you know how to use my debian box as a remote for my tv ? |
| 21:56.19 | douglas | is ruby awesome or should i not believe the hype? |
| 21:56.21 | PDani | i have two running x-servers. one on localhost:0 started by gdm, and one on localhost:1 started by vnc4server. there's a running valknut client on localhost:0. i would like to move valknut from :0 to :1 runtime. is it possible? |
| 21:56.26 | douglas | relative to, say, php |
| 21:56.36 | dondelelcaro | douglas: it's another language. It has problems like all languages do. |
| 21:56.40 | abrotman | douglas: do you know any languages? |
| 21:56.53 | dondelelcaro | douglas: if you don't know any, pick one, and learn how to program first. |
| 21:56.53 | douglas | i know how to make an email thingy in php |
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| 21:57.37 | abrotman | douglas: do you know any languages? |
| 21:57.44 | pe | dondelelcaro : are you a brainfuck guru ? |
| 21:57.49 | abrotman | i mean .. ANY at all |
| 21:57.50 | dondelelcaro | pe: no. |
| 21:57.54 | douglas | abrotman: just some php.. a little. |
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| 21:58.09 | abrotman | douglas: you can start there .. or learn another language |
| 21:58.14 | dondelelcaro | m4lu6: what are you trying to boot off of? |
| 21:58.35 | pe | dondelelcaro : neither am I. But maybe you can answer my question : do you know how to divide two positive numbers ? |
| 21:58.43 | deadcat_ | douglas: then you dont have enough skill to make those website things. |
| 21:58.47 | m4lu6 | oh, i'm pxe booted right now from a busybox image i made. i just forget the syntax for grub |
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| 21:58.58 | dondelelcaro | m4lu6: I basically gave it to you above. |
| 21:59.02 | m4lu6 | yeah |
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| 21:59.08 | m4lu6 | but that means actually starting grub, |
| 21:59.11 | m4lu6 | and issuing commands. |
| 21:59.19 | m4lu6 | i want handsfree |
| 21:59.21 | dondelelcaro | m4lu6: sure, but it's only 3 commands. It's kind of trivial. |
| 21:59.22 | douglas | deadcat_: i had enough skills to use other people's code to make assambassador.com... |
| 21:59.24 | m4lu6 | something i can script |
| 21:59.27 | douglas | why we gotta bust balls |
| 21:59.30 | dondelelcaro | m4lu6: you can script it too. |
| 21:59.39 | Mammut | Hi |
| 21:59.41 | m4lu6 | OK, well, let's do that then, high-speed. |
| 21:59.45 | dondelelcaro | m4lu6: grub --no-floppy <<EOF yada yada yada. |
| 21:59.46 | deadcat_ | douglas: well those sites dont give out their codes |
| 22:00.04 | douglas | and i installed that code using tar and compiling not apt which i could have used |
| 22:00.18 | deadcat_ | douglas: thats not hard to do |
| 22:00.26 | douglas | yeah but i'm just sayin'. |
| 22:00.27 | m4lu6 | yada yada yada doesn't look valid to me ;) |
| 22:00.33 | pearl | is the us mirror of debian.org fast at this time? |
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| 22:01.03 | Mammut | question; ping x.z.y.w --> ping: sendto: network is unreachable |
| 22:01.10 | Mammut | ?? |
| 22:01.16 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: that means that you don't have your routes set up properly. |
| 22:01.24 | douglas | pearl: it's a round robbin dns thing.. sometimes you get unlucky and get a slower server |
| 22:01.34 | epsilon | GAAAAAAAH World will end!!!111 |
| 22:01.39 | Mammut | default gw is the router |
| 22:01.41 | Tallu | epsilon: when? |
| 22:01.43 | dondelelcaro | pearl: uh... you appear to be in brazil. Why are you using a US or a .DE mirror? |
| 22:01.50 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: can you ping the gateway? |
| 22:01.55 | Mammut | Ys |
| 22:01.57 | Mammut | Yes |
| 22:01.58 | pearl | iam in germany |
| 22:02.11 | pearl | but the german server is absolutely slow today |
| 22:02.14 | pearl | yesterday the same was happen |
| 22:02.15 | dondelelcaro | pearl: so pick another server in .de |
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| 22:02.54 | Mammut | dondelelcaro, The NAT is also corect on the Router |
| 22:03.19 | epsilon | pearl: you mean the german package servers ftp and ftp2? |
| 22:03.22 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: and what network are you pinging? what happens when you traceroute to it? |
| 22:03.25 | abrotman | pearl: there si more than one .de server .. |
| 22:03.29 | Mammut | dondelelcaro: IP Tables is also corect |
| 22:03.30 | pearl | dondelelcaro: i download from freenet.de at this time, but i dont like to get packages from not original debian servers |
| 22:03.38 | dondelelcaro | pearl: http://www.debian.org/mirrors/list |
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| 22:03.56 | dondelelcaro | pearl: they're all the same; there's nothing special about the contry mirrors, as we generally don't control them either. |
| 22:03.57 | Mammut | traceroute works alos not |
| 22:04.14 | pearl | i already said that ftp.de.debian.org is slow, and ftp2.de.debian.org too |
| 22:04.19 | epsilon | pearl: there are several fast servers in .de, take another server if one is too slow to you |
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| 22:04.33 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: give the output of route -n; ifconfig; and ping -c 5 ipofgateway; ping -c 5 64.233.187.99; |
| 22:04.34 | abrotman | pearl: so pick another mirror in germany |
| 22:04.39 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: use the paster bot to do so. |
| 22:05.06 | pearl | abrotman: i said i dont like to get packages from not original debian servers |
| 22:05.11 | nougat | so umm, I just upgraded to linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 ver 2.6.15-6 and all of a sudden my /dev/sda is now /dev/hda |
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| 22:05.20 | abrotman | pearl: it doesn't matter . that's why it's called a mirror |
| 22:05.23 | epsilon | pearl: add ftp.de... and ftp2.de... added and keep them commented out in sources list, use them in case of trouble |
| 22:05.23 | dondelelcaro | pearl: you don't get the packages from the original Debian servers anyway. |
| 22:05.33 | nougat | what's the right thing to about that...edit grub ? |
| 22:05.40 | abrotman | pearl: the ftp.de.debian.org is also a mirror .. it's not the original debian server |
| 22:05.47 | abrotman | as is ftp2.de.debian.org |
| 22:05.54 | dondelelcaro | pearl: all the ftp.XY stuff is for is a machine which has been placed into that country's round robbin. |
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| 22:05.56 | pearl | yeah, but i dont know who put the packages on ftp.freenet.de |
| 22:06.06 | pearl | there can be viruses or some shit like that |
| 22:06.07 | dondelelcaro | pearl: you don't know who put the packages on any Debian mirror. |
| 22:06.09 | abrotman | you don't know who put the ones on ftp.de.debian.org |
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| 22:06.19 | D13GU___ | hi all! how to list free space in disk? |
| 22:06.21 | dondelelcaro | pearl: that's why the Release file is signed. |
| 22:06.23 | pearl | dondelelcaro: i think that are the debian maintainer |
| 22:06.24 | dondelelcaro | D13GU___: df -h . |
| 22:06.29 | epsilon | pearl: ftp.de.debian.org doesn't mean that's an official one. Take a look at "dig ftp.de.debian.org" and you'll the various servers |
| 22:06.33 | dondelelcaro | pearl: no, they aren't necessarily. |
| 22:06.54 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, per user |
| 22:06.59 | dondelelcaro | (indeed, it's fairly rare for a Debian mirror to actually be operated by a Debian Developer.) |
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| 22:07.14 | dondelelcaro | D13GU___: as in how much space the user has available in their quota? or what? |
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| 22:07.20 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, i implemented quota |
| 22:07.21 | D13GU___ | yes |
| 22:07.25 | A3K | hi |
| 22:07.27 | dondelelcaro | D13GU___: quota -v; does that. |
| 22:07.31 | D13GU___ | :) |
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| 22:08.08 | A3K | would debian take advantage of two processors in a dual xeon system? |
| 22:08.18 | Mammut | dondelelcaro: 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 |
| 22:08.18 | Mammut | 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 22:08.19 | epsilon | yes |
| 22:08.26 | kapat | A3K: If you have an SMP kernel installed. |
| 22:08.38 | epsilon | A3K: any linux system with kernel supporting SMP would do that |
| 22:08.43 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: use the paster bot please; that can't be the full output of route -n. |
| 22:08.54 | pearl | Mammut: does every host say network unrechable if you ping? |
| 22:09.01 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, well ai make: apt-get install quota, set in fstab usrquota e grpquota, after reboot, i #quotacheck -avugm |
| 22:09.03 | dondelelcaro | (and if it is, you have no default gateway) |
| 22:09.04 | Mammut | sorry, I ts not the same machine |
| 22:09.19 | Mammut | Yes, every host |
| 22:09.20 | nougat | anybody ever dealt with a kernel upgrade that changes the device name of the boot device? |
| 22:09.35 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, i create quota.user and quota.group files, set chmod 600... |
| 22:09.39 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: right, you need to specify a gateway, like route add default gw 192.168.1.1; or whatever it happens to be. |
| 22:09.44 | A3K | I have been looking a dual 2.4 Ghz zenon system with 1 Gig ram, and was thinking about putting Debian on it if it would utilize the extra cpu. |
| 22:09.53 | Mammut | ok, mom, i check again the dgw |
| 22:09.56 | A3K | so thanks |
| 22:10.01 | dondelelcaro | A3K: yes, it would. |
| 22:10.07 | A3K | I am running debian on my laptop and like it |
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| 22:10.21 | epsilon | A3K: even Windows supports (at least 2000, XP pro, and so on) SMP |
| 22:10.24 | dondelelcaro | I forget what the maximum number of CPUs is right now, but it's >> 8 |
| 22:10.32 | stew | dondelelcaro: 64 |
| 22:10.35 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, and create a #edquota -u user... |
| 22:10.40 | dondelelcaro | stew: I think it's arch dependent too |
| 22:10.50 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, ok? |
| 22:10.59 | dondelelcaro | D13GU___: right, that looks fine to me. |
| 22:11.00 | A3K | I did not think windows supported it until the 64 bit system |
| 22:11.08 | A3K | interesting |
| 22:11.15 | CompWizrd | A3K: windows nt 4.0 supports multiple cpu's, i don't remember if 3.51 did |
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| 22:11.38 | epsilon | A3K: AFAIK only Win9x series and XP home don't support SMP, the rest do |
| 22:11.38 | CompWizrd | i have a dual celeron 433 at the office running nt 4.0 enterprise |
| 22:11.44 | dondelelcaro | yuck |
| 22:11.46 | D13GU___ | :) |
| 22:11.59 | A3K | I have an XP Pro cd around here someplace |
| 22:12.00 | Mammut | dondelelcaro: *traceroute: sendto: Operation not permitted |
| 22:12.00 | Mammut | traceroute: wrote 216.251.47.16 38 chars, ret=-1 |
| 22:12.09 | CompWizrd | dondelelcaro: agreed. |
| 22:12.13 | epsilon | A3K: At least I can run Windows 2k with P4 Hyperthreading showing 2 CPU |
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| 22:12.17 | CompWizrd | it's being replaced with a dual opteron 265 soon. |
| 22:12.23 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: uh... your traceroute is not setuid root for some reason. |
| 22:12.32 | omry | hi, is it possible to capture the audio the sound card (sblive) is playing , and save it to a file? |
| 22:12.34 | epsilon | A3K: And Linux... just enable SMP option in kernel config before you compile |
| 22:12.39 | Mammut | mhhhh |
| 22:12.44 | A3K | ok |
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| 22:13.04 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, i edit soft ou hard? to set quota size? |
| 22:13.06 | A3K | will probably set up a dual boot then |
| 22:13.14 | CompWizrd | xp home should support a dual core cpu, just not a dual cpu system |
| 22:13.32 | Isil`Zha | can anybody please help me to build a http proxy with netcat or point me to some ressource that explains this? |
| 22:13.32 | dondelelcaro | D13GU___: you edit both; the soft quota will give them a warning that they've exceeded their quota; the hard will block them from adding any more files. |
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| 22:13.40 | A3K | I need linux on it with my laptop being linux, but windows will be good for the family |
| 22:13.48 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, ok |
| 22:13.54 | dondelelcaro | A3K: just stick Debian on everything. |
| 22:13.58 | epsilon | well the P4 Hyperthreading can be turned off in BIOS, then you have 1 CPU in all OS |
| 22:14.18 | epsilon | but 2x Xeon is full SMP of course |
| 22:14.19 | A3K | the system I am looking at is a dual xeon, not a dual core |
| 22:14.28 | A3K | yes |
| 22:14.38 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, how to test quota? |
| 22:14.47 | A3K | anyway, thanks a bunch |
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| 22:15.04 | epsilon | and intel already announed Quad-Core... |
| 22:15.06 | A3K | I wonder how large of a performance increase I will get |
| 22:15.22 | CompWizrd | depends on your application |
| 22:15.26 | CompWizrd | or application count, if it's single thread |
| 22:15.29 | epsilon | max 60-80% |
| 22:15.29 | dondelelcaro | D13GU___: quota -v; by a user with quota enabled should tell you that the quota is on, and exactly how much quota they have remaining on which devices. |
| 22:15.41 | Mammut | dondelelcaro: with a other account it is the same |
| 22:16.04 | kapat | Dear lazyweb: How do you monitor a perc4 on a dell 2850? Answer: Painfully. |
| 22:16.17 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, ok, i need set quotaon -av always after reboot? |
| 22:17.30 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: yes; please give the full and complete output that I asked for originally. Otherwise it'll be very difficult to help you. |
| 22:17.32 | pearl | public away is allowed here? hehe |
| 22:17.43 | dondelelcaro | eraser: turn that off please. |
| 22:17.50 | pearl | hes offline :P |
| 22:18.03 | dondelelcaro | pearl: presumably there's an awaylog. |
| 22:18.15 | dondelelcaro | D13GU___: right, but it should be turned on by the quota scripts iirc. |
| 22:18.19 | D13GU___ | ok |
| 22:18.35 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, in debian? rc.local? |
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| 22:18.40 | dondelelcaro | D13GU___: you may need to add a quota option to the fstab lines; but I'm not sure if that's required. |
| 22:18.44 | Mammut | dondelelcaro: s-001:/etc/samba# route -n |
| 22:18.44 | Mammut | Kernel IP routing table |
| 22:18.44 | Mammut | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 22:18.44 | Mammut | 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 |
| 22:18.44 | Mammut | 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 22:18.57 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, yes.. i added |
| 22:18.59 | dondelelcaro | *sigh* |
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| 22:19.41 | dondelelcaro | D13GU___: cool; then quota should have installed an init.d script which will quotaon at start (or it's in the mountall.sh init.d script... I forget) |
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| 22:20.09 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, perfect... thanks :) |
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| 22:20.43 | Mammut | ? |
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| 22:21.37 | SirGeorge | hi |
| 22:21.39 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: use the paster bot to paste the full output. |
| 22:21.47 | Peterken | Good evening all. I was woundering you have phpMyAdmin for mysql, is there something available for pgsql? something more or less the same as phpMyAdmin? |
| 22:21.56 | abrotman | phppgadmin |
| 22:22.03 | Peterken | tnx abrotman |
| 22:22.25 | D13GU___ | dondelelcaro, editor text in cosole you use? |
| 22:22.29 | abrotman | Peterken: erm .. itmight not be packaged |
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| 22:22.36 | dnlds | hi |
| 22:22.39 | dondelelcaro | D13GU___: emacs, actually... |
| 22:22.46 | abrotman | or the bot lied to me! |
| 22:22.49 | abrotman | !lart dpkg |
| 22:23.02 | dnlds | i'm trying to install libxml1 but apt-get install libxml1 shows no packages listed |
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| 22:23.11 | SirGeorge | i'm desperately searching for differentiating the possible authentication methods in openssh based on ip/hostname |
| 22:23.12 | Peterken | That's no problem, stuff like that i like to use in tarballs ;-) Because it wasn't packages i wasn't able to find something like that ;) |
| 22:23.20 | abrotman | Peterken: i lied .. it is packaged |
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| 22:23.25 | Peterken | yes? |
| 22:23.27 | Peterken | hmz |
| 22:23.28 | bbrazil | SirGeorge: what are you trying to do? |
| 22:23.31 | abrotman | !info phppgadmin sarge |
| 22:23.32 | dondelelcaro | SirGeorge: sure, you can do that using the .ssh/config file |
| 22:23.35 | dpkg | phppgadmin: (Set of PHP scripts to administrate PostgreSQL over the WWW), section web, is extra. Version: 3.5.2-5 (sarge), Packaged size: 586 kB, Installed size: 3516 kB |
| 22:23.52 | SirGeorge | lan users should be able to do passwordauth, outsiders only pubkey |
| 22:24.00 | Mammut | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1859 |
| 22:24.05 | Peterken | ah yes, now i see it, had a mistake 'phpgpadmin' |
| 22:24.10 | Peterken | thanx for your help abrotman |
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| 22:24.12 | dondelelcaro | SirGeorge: any particular reason why? |
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| 22:24.16 | dnlds | nm fixed |
| 22:24.26 | SirGeorge | laziness ;) |
| 22:24.52 | SirGeorge | where's that .ssh/config documented? |
| 22:24.55 | Buccharati | SirGeorge: "host=" in authorized_keys |
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| 22:25.13 | Buccharati | restricts a key to a host |
| 22:25.15 | dondelelcaro | SirGeorge: ssh_config |
| 22:25.19 | {jasper} | hello guys, how can I find out if my serial port is working? |
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| 22:25.50 | Eulex | what's a good program to monitor cpu load, cpu use and net load and create a graph out of it? |
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| 22:25.55 | SirGeorge | ssh_config steers the client part, unfortunately. but it would do exactly what i want otherwise |
| 22:26.14 | Mammut | dondelelcaro: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1860 |
| 22:26.15 | mgoetze | SirGeorge: the man page you want is sshd_config |
| 22:26.24 | bbrazil | Eulex: mrtg |
| 22:26.36 | eeyore- | visicalc creator working on "wikicalc"? :-p how much you wanna bet the name has 99% to do with the decision? |
| 22:26.39 | SirGeorge | hmm, digged quite deeply in it |
| 22:26.44 | mgoetze | SirGeorge: it looks to me like you'll need to run two different instances of sshd |
| 22:26.45 | tyranix | SirGeorge: Look at the sshd man page under 'AUTHORIZED_KEYS FILE FORMAT'. You can restrict pubkeys by using from="pattern-list". |
| 22:26.51 | eeyore- | hey, "wikicalc" sounds cool. i'll *contrive* to make a product out of it |
| 22:26.57 | bbrazil | Eulex: not sure about CPU usage though, kernel only gives instantanous values afaik |
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| 22:27.13 | SirGeorge | and that allows passwordauth for non-pubkey-owners? |
| 22:27.29 | Eulex | bbrazil, ok, ty :) |
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| 22:27.57 | abrotman | you could feed values to a flat file and use gnuplot ? |
| 22:28.23 | SirGeorge | i'll try, thanx so far |
| 22:28.27 | abrotman | eeyore-: just wait til Intel gets to edit the wiki ... |
| 22:28.39 | dnlds | error: xml::parser perl module is required for intltool what pkg do i need to download for that |
| 22:28.40 | abrotman | 2+2=5!! |
| 22:28.50 | mgoetze | SirGeorge: if you have centrally-managed accounts you might want to like into host-based authentication instead |
| 22:28.52 | eeyore- | 2+2=5 for some special values of 2 |
| 22:28.55 | Mammut | dondelelcaro: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1861 |
| 22:29.02 | abrotman | eeyore-: hehe |
| 22:29.16 | bbrazil | SirGeorge: I haven't done what you're trying to do, but there's two options. 1) run two sshds and direct outside connections to one and internal connections to the other |
| 22:29.21 | mgoetze | lim(2->2.5) 2+2 = 5 |
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| 22:29.48 | Mammut | dondelelcaro: allways ping: sendto: Operation not permitted |
| 22:29.56 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: you've got something going on with your itpables rules or similar. Turn them all off on both the gateway and the machine you're using. |
| 22:30.05 | Eulex | mgoetze, haha, exactly :) |
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| 22:30.23 | bbrazil | SirGeorge: 2) use a pam auth module to forbid access form outsite your lan, pubkeys should bypass PAM auth - not sure this'll work |
| 22:30.52 | eeyore- | since when can you use integer literal as variable? :-) |
| 22:30.55 | Mammut | IPTables ist set to "inactive" |
| 22:30.58 | eeyore- | anyway |
| 22:31.02 | mgoetze | bbrazil: i don't think PAM knows where ssh connections are coming from |
| 22:31.09 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: are you running selinux or anything else wierd? |
| 22:31.14 | Mammut | and the other PCs from the Net can ping. |
| 22:31.20 | bbrazil | mgoetze: I'm pretty sure it does |
| 22:31.24 | eeyore- | isn't there some language that allows you to start variable name with digits? that made for some fun typos |
| 22:31.29 | bbrazil | mgoetze: certainly PAM supports passing on the host etc. |
| 22:31.49 | bbrazil | Eulex: one of the old basics iirc |
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| 22:32.12 | SirGeorge | bbrazil: that would be a self written module, right ;) can't think of something like that |
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| 22:32.34 | eeyore- | there have been some real bugs in my php code i could get away with by blaming typos :-))))))) |
| 22:32.36 | bbrazil | SirGeorge: no, modules should exist for that - pam_access maybe |
| 22:32.51 | roger21 | hi |
| 22:32.52 | eeyore- | if only they knew |
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| 22:33.02 | Mammut | dondelelcaro: wired, standart debian |
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| 22:33.05 | jybhe | hi. anyone knows how to install openoffice 2.0 on a debian stable ? |
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| 22:33.30 | dondelelcaro | Mammut: hrm. and you've run iptables -F; iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT; iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT: ? |
| 22:33.31 | SirGeorge | the problem is, i read someone did exactly that, but i can't find it anymore *argh* |
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| 22:34.06 | bbrazil | SirGeorge: the two sshds will definitely work - just some firewall rules and starting a second sshd with a different config |
| 22:34.25 | dnlds | what is the package name for gtk libs |
| 22:34.27 | roger21 | some idea about this bash enigma : why +([[:alpha:].]) doesn't match any file with letters and . (i don't mean dot-starting files) whereas +([[:alpha:]1]) matches any file with letters and 1 for exemple ? |
| 22:34.42 | Eulex | !tell dnlds about search |
| 22:35.15 | mgoetze | roger21: try escaping the . (\.) |
| 22:35.30 | eeyore- | SirGeorge: if you want to run only *one* sshd, i think you're out of luck unless you make your own custom sshd with extended configuration options |
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| 22:35.49 | roger21 | mgoetze, nop dosn't change |
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| 22:36.01 | mgoetze | oh well, i don't use bash anyway ;) |
| 22:36.05 | roger21 | :) |
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| 22:36.10 | SirGeorge | bbrazil: what about $HOME/.ssh/config? could you set options for the user there, e.g. from specific source adress? |
| 22:36.10 | Eulex | dnlds, gtk2 is in libgtk2.0-0, but try searching next time |
| 22:36.54 | SirGeorge | or is it again only relevant for the client part? |
| 22:37.15 | jybhe | i have another issue: X clients cant be launched from the command line, only from the WM menu. it's very annoying, how can i fix it ? |
| 22:37.20 | eeyore- | SirGeorge: no, ~/.config is for ssh, not sshd |
| 22:37.23 | D13GU___ | how to i add samba user? |
| 22:37.24 | bbrazil | SirGeorge: I'm not too sure about that |
| 22:37.26 | Buccharati | SirGeorge: just use keys and live happy |
| 22:37.35 | Buccharati | SirGeorge: passwords? we are in 2006 |
| 22:37.38 | eeyore- | make everybody use keys |
| 22:37.50 | bbrazil | eeyore-: that isn't practical in all enviroments |
| 22:37.53 | mgoetze | make everybody use kerberos |
| 22:37.56 | eeyore- | i know :-) |
| 22:38.09 | SirGeorge | mgoetze: have a little lan here and want unconfigured stations be able to log in with password, and the outer world only by key |
| 22:38.09 | bbrazil | eeyore-: john+ssh_brute_finder does me |
| 22:38.10 | eeyore- | except in BOFHland |
| 22:38.23 | mgoetze | SirGeorge: yeah but, why? :) |
| 22:38.36 | eeyore- | mgoetze: convenience + acceptable level of risk |
| 22:38.41 | stew | D13GU___: use smbpasswd |
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| 22:39.07 | mgoetze | kerberos is convenient... well once you have it set up, anyway |
| 22:39.32 | dondelelcaro | roger21: it sure seems to work fine here. |
| 22:39.34 | SirGeorge | mgoetze: haven't thought about that yes |
| 22:39.37 | D13GU___ | stew, i can use linux login? synchronized? |
| 22:40.12 | bbrazil | D13GU___: there's a pam module to change the smb password when the unix password changes. samba also has a password chaning hook |
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| 22:40.36 | jybhe | anyone can help me ? |
| 22:40.44 | Eulex | jybhe, just ask |
| 22:40.50 | jybhe | i did |
| 22:41.00 | D13GU___ | ok |
| 22:41.07 | stew | jybhe: for openoffice use backports.org /msg dpkg backports |
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| 22:41.23 | stew | jybhe: what is the error you get trying to lauch x clients? |
| 22:41.26 | Eulex | jybhe, ah. what happens when you try to launch a program from the command line? |
| 22:41.43 | D13GU___ | perfect! Debian, the best :) |
| 22:42.11 | jybhe | it says "xlib: connection refused by server" "error: couldnt open display null" |
| 22:42.27 | Eulex | jybhe, echo $DISPLAY says? |
| 22:42.50 | jybhe | :0.0 |
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| 22:43.04 | Eulex | hmm |
| 22:43.08 | D13GU___ | stew, you use 2.4 or 2.6 kernel (linux26 install) ? |
| 22:43.24 | robin_z | meep? |
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| 22:43.51 | dnlds | how do i adjust PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
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| 22:44.48 | {jasper} | hello guys, I'm having problems setting up myh serial port, anyone here who can help me? |
| 22:45.08 | D13GU___ | ah!!! e-mail server, what use? postfix? sendmail? qmail??? what? |
| 22:45.15 | robin_z | depends ... |
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| 22:45.32 | SirGeorge | jybhe: is the user in that console the same that owns the xsession? |
| 22:45.45 | mgoetze | D13GU___: what's wrong with exim? |
| 22:45.45 | jybhe | SirGeorge, yes |
| 22:45.55 | robin_z | qmail is useful in that it does a lot of things that are hard to do with exim, but is a pain to set up on debian |
| 22:46.01 | D13GU___ | mgoetze, noting.. you use? |
| 22:46.05 | johnsu01 | Sorry for the repeat for those of you who have been here all day ;), but does anyone have thoughts about a possible workaround for http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-x@lists.debian.org/msg40506.html ? Right now I have to quit X to put my laptop to sleep :/ |
| 22:46.14 | D13GU___ | nothing* |
| 22:46.24 | SirGeorge | jybhe: which wm do you use? |
| 22:46.37 | johnsu01 | acpid complains about not being able to get /proc/acpi/events, and lsof shows that it's Xorg using it. |
| 22:46.39 | robin_z | D13GU___: I use qmail, but it sucks in some ways |
| 22:46.40 | jybhe | SirGeorge, blackbox |
| 22:46.46 | mgoetze | D13GU___: yes, and it's very well supported since it's the debian default, so if you don't actually need any special features i think it's a good choice |
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| 22:47.03 | D13GU___ | ok |
| 22:47.13 | D13GU___ | for e-mail server? internet? |
| 22:47.17 | robin_z | I need to do webmail and multiple virtual hosts, so exim is out for me |
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| 22:47.42 | D13GU___ | 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket |
| 22:47.49 | D13GU___ | #vsftpd |
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| 22:47.56 | __marx | have debian, anythink like kickstart ? |
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| 22:48.05 | __marx | to automate my installations? |
| 22:48.12 | deadcat_ | fai |
| 22:48.30 | Mamut | IP |
| 22:48.58 | Mamut | dondelelcaro: THX for iptables -F an P |
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| 22:49.05 | Bucciarati | __marx: rsync |
| 22:49.07 | Mamut | Its working |
| 22:49.14 | SirGeorge | jybhe: don't know about that, but the message usually tells you your not in possession of the xcookie (?) or not in xhost's allowed hosts. but i'm not too sure |
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| 22:49.58 | jybhe | also, how do i enable dri ? |
| 22:50.03 | roger21 | dondelelcaro, are u sure, i mean ur in a dirctory with only one file foo.bar you do a ls +([[:alpha:].]) and it is listed ? |
| 22:50.07 | __marx | Bucciarati, rsync from / ? |
| 22:50.23 | deadcat_ | _MiTo_: FAI |
| 22:50.25 | D13GU___ | what is? |
| 22:50.26 | D13GU___ | witalo:/home# vsftpd |
| 22:50.27 | D13GU___ | 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket |
| 22:50.31 | Bucciarati | __marx: exactly :) just exclude the relevant dirs/files |
| 22:50.38 | SirGeorge | jybhe: depends on support by the xmodule |
| 22:51.26 | __marx | Bucciarati, is an idea.... partition from a sfdisk image.... maybe... |
| 22:51.38 | jybhe | SirGeorge, may have that been automated during installation ? |
| 22:51.54 | SirGeorge | jybhe: try Load "dri" in the Module section of XF86Config-4. |
| 22:52.04 | Bucciarati | __marx: or else, dpkg --get-selections |
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| 22:52.16 | SirGeorge | jybhe: don't know |
| 22:52.20 | Bucciarati | __marx: and --set-selections on the other side |
| 22:52.22 | jybhe | SirGeorge, ok, i'll try that thx |
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| 22:52.32 | SirGeorge | jybhe: which grphics card do you have? |
| 22:52.35 | deadcat_ | __marx: like i said. if you want something similar to kickstart like redhat. go with FAI |
| 22:52.48 | naldon | i get the following error when trying to install anjuta |
| 22:52.48 | jybhe | SirGeorge, ati radeon mobility 9700 |
| 22:52.49 | naldon | ... |
| 22:53.16 | naldon | configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. |
| 22:53.22 | naldon | how do i fix this |
| 22:53.39 | __marx | deadcat_, yeap, i found fai in the faq |
| 22:53.39 | Eulex | naldon, you need to install the gtk2 dev package |
| 22:53.48 | __marx | deadcat_, and im reading now about it.... tks :) |
| 22:53.49 | SirGeorge | jybhe: might work, possibli you need the ati closed source driver. don't like the idea, but support is quite good |
| 22:53.55 | naldon | what is the package name |
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| 22:54.29 | tyranix | Bucciarati: re: --get/set selections. But if you use aptitude, then you lose the information about what packages you installed on purpose and which were dependencies. |
| 22:54.38 | naldon | i found it |
| 22:54.42 | jybhe | SirGeorge, can i install it with a debian stable ? |
| 22:55.17 | Eulex | jybhe, you'll need fglrx if you want 3d acceleration. |
| 22:55.31 | Bucciarati | tyranix: thanks for the info.. never used aptitude |
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| 22:55.41 | SirGeorge | jybhe: i did it once, but it depends on the versions offered by ati |
| 22:55.53 | SirGeorge | yeah, it's called fglrx |
| 22:56.17 | jybhe | so i just apt-get install fglrx ? |
| 22:56.24 | Bucciarati | tyranix: i don't think that's vital information tough.. one is supposed to know what has installed and why |
| 22:56.33 | Eulex | SirGeorge, no, it's not in stable |
| 22:56.47 | Eulex | umh |
| 22:56.57 | Eulex | s/SirGeorge/jybhe/ |
| 22:57.10 | SirGeorge | Eulex: no, it's not in debian altogether |
| 22:57.12 | D13GU___ | how to set drop in all chains ? |
| 22:57.21 | SirGeorge | you need the binary package from ati |
| 22:57.46 | tyranix | Bucciarati: Oh, but it is. :) It's one of the reasons why I use aptitude. That way if I remove a package that depended on other packages (that no others use), it will ask you if you want to remove those too. It keeps your machine cleaner. |
| 22:57.46 | Eulex | SirGeorge, it's in unstable. |
| 22:58.02 | SirGeorge | Eulex: didn't know that |
| 22:58.09 | jybhe | i think i better switch to debian testing... |
| 22:58.10 | Eulex | jybhe, http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 22:58.18 | Bucciarati | tyranix: wasn't deborphan enough for that??!? :) |
| 22:58.22 | Eulex | jybhe, testing hasn't got fglrx either |
| 22:58.50 | jybhe | ok Eulex thx |
| 22:59.52 | tyranix | Bucciarati: Yeah I've seen deborphan. But in aptitude you can also explicitly tag things as automatically installed or not. So I can keep dev libraries for my own use even when other packages don't depend on it. |
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| 23:00.15 | younix | Liek omg. |
| 23:00.17 | younix | Dude. |
| 23:00.20 | younix | Okay. |
| 23:00.23 | younix | I'm on Debian now. |
| 23:00.26 | younix | How do I start gnome?! |
| 23:00.29 | younix | |
| 23:00.47 | D13GU___ | somebody recommend a firewall IDE for console? |
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| 23:00.51 | SirGeorge | jybhe: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=15152 |
| 23:01.05 | bbrazil | D13GU___: shorewall is good |
| 23:01.08 | mgoetze | younix: apt-get install gdm |
| 23:01.17 | D13GU___ | bbrazil, ok |
| 23:01.19 | bbrazil | D13GU___: I don't know of any IDEs |
| 23:01.23 | SirGeorge | jybhe: use the version for your X-version, it should even work with stable |
| 23:01.37 | Bucciarati | tyranix: ok, i used to do that with pinning (pinning packages i needed) |
| 23:01.43 | younix | mgoetze: Already have that. |
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| 23:02.03 | mgoetze | younix: well, /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 23:02.07 | tyranix | Bucciarati: I haven't looked too hard but I haven't found a standard way of syncing two machines that both use aptitude (and preserve that metadata). There is a package called pkgsync but that only has a must/may/cannot install list. |
| 23:02.25 | mgoetze | younix: though i do wonder what you changed so that it isn't started already |
| 23:03.11 | younix | mgoetze: It flashed a green screen twice. |
| 23:03.17 | younix | Like a messed up thing. |
| 23:03.20 | younix | Doesn't work. |
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| 23:03.31 | Eulex | younix, checked your X log? |
| 23:03.36 | younix | Location? |
| 23:03.36 | Bucciarati | tyranix: then there we are again.. rsync :) for how ugly that is, and for how many problems it gave me personally (MANY problems :).. |
| 23:03.45 | Eulex | younix, stable or testing/unstable? |
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| 23:03.49 | younix | Dunno. |
| 23:04.16 | tyranix | Bucciarati: hehe |
| 23:04.20 | mgoetze | younix: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:04.27 | SirGeorge | younix: /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 23:04.38 | younix | 3.1 |
| 23:04.49 | Bucciarati | but i suppose the --get/set are enough for the fellow mass-installer |
| 23:04.52 | younix | SirGeorge: What can I do with it? I can't copy/paste. No mouse. |
| 23:04.58 | younix | Oh. |
| 23:04.59 | younix | Hold on |
| 23:05.01 | SirGeorge | younix: less /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 23:05.05 | younix | Hold on! |
| 23:05.49 | younix | Here: |
| 23:05.56 | bbrazil | D13GU___: ask questions in the channel |
| 23:06.00 | D13GU___ | ok |
| 23:06.04 | younix | http://www.source-techs.com/XFree86.0.log |
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| 23:06.38 | D13GU___ | bbrazil, well, how to set? |
| 23:07.04 | bbrazil | D13GU___: man iptables |
| 23:07.10 | D13GU___ | lol |
| 23:07.14 | younix | SirGeorge: So? |
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| 23:07.17 | younix | mgoetze |
| 23:07.18 | younix | ? |
| 23:07.29 | SirGeorge | younix: doesn't tell much |
| 23:07.40 | younix | I have a log.old |
| 23:07.42 | younix | Need that? |
| 23:08.03 | SirGeorge | younix: is there nothing else in the log? is there some more? |
| 23:08.04 | younix | Or .old.log |
| 23:08.08 | younix | Negative. |
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| 23:08.24 | younix | There is XFree86.0.old.log and XFree86.0.log |
| 23:08.25 | mgoetze | younix: hm, not loading here, for some reason |
| 23:08.33 | younix | Well jeez louise. |
| 23:08.53 | mgoetze | younix: blame it on my browser ;) |
| 23:08.57 | Eulex | younix, not loading here either |
| 23:09.03 | SirGeorge | mgoetze, won't load here either |
| 23:09.12 | SirGeorge | ;) |
| 23:09.18 | younix | Hold on |
| 23:09.31 | SirGeorge | ah |
| 23:09.32 | Eulex | ah, not it came |
| 23:09.47 | naldon | i'm having trouble find the package gdl |
| 23:09.59 | younix | Try this: www.source-techs.com/moo.txt |
| 23:10.25 | Eulex | younix, you haven't set up your mouse correctly. is it ps/2 or usb? |
| 23:10.39 | younix | Dunno. |
| 23:10.51 | naldon | anyone know what gdl is |
| 23:10.57 | mgoetze | younix: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:11.11 | mgoetze | younix: and try giving it the correct answers ;) |
| 23:11.39 | Eulex | younix, you don't know what the connector is that you connect your mouse to your computer to? is it round or not? |
| 23:11.46 | SirGeorge | younix, try /dev/psaux, or leave it ad try replugging the mouse |
| 23:11.53 | younix | Dude. |
| 23:11.55 | younix | I DONT KNOW HOW |
| 23:12.14 | SirGeorge | younix, first one if yout have a ps/2 one, second if itÄs usb |
| 23:12.17 | Shadowcat | you don't know how to plug in a mouse? |
| 23:12.24 | younix | Dude. |
| 23:12.32 | younix | Shadowcat: Are you from Broken-Pipe? |
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| 23:12.47 | younix | SirGeorge: I'm assuming it's ps/2. It doesn't plug into a USB port. |
| 23:12.57 | deadcat_ | Shadowcat: just ignore that moron. as in dont help him |
| 23:13.01 | SirGeorge | younix, so try /dev/psaux |
| 23:13.08 | Shadowcat | deadcat_: yes I'm beginning to see that |
| 23:13.15 | Shadowcat | ... moving right along ... |
| 23:13.23 | SirGeorge | younix, so try /dev/psaux when it comes to device selection |
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| 23:14.29 | younix | SirGeorge: I have no idea what you're talking about. |
| 23:14.35 | younix | Try "/dev/psaux" |
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| 23:14.38 | younix | Type that? |
| 23:14.53 | younix | deadcat_: You're just a dick. That's why. |
| 23:15.04 | deadcat_ | younix: you still aint gonna get help from me. |
| 23:15.11 | Woosta | Anyone know if there's packages around for kde3.5? |
| 23:15.20 | deadcat_ | Woosta: /topic |
| 23:15.23 | mgoetze | younix: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:15.35 | Shadowcat | younix: you ain't gonna get help from me either |
| 23:15.38 | SirGeorge | younix, edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, find /dev/input/mice and substitute by /dev/psaux |
| 23:15.42 | Shadowcat | that's two regulars you've pissed off |
| 23:15.44 | younix | mgoetze: I've done that. |
| 23:15.49 | younix | Shadowcat: Fuck you. |
| 23:15.59 | mgoetze | younix: not thoroughly enough, it seems |
| 23:16.00 | younix | mgoetze: My bus identifier? |
| 23:16.09 | younix | I don't know what to put for all of these. |
| 23:16.09 | mgoetze | younix: leave it blank |
| 23:16.11 | SirGeorge | leave it blank |
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| 23:16.26 | Woosta | deadcat_: thanks :) |
| 23:16.27 | SirGeorge | is that some kind of telepathy? |
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| 23:16.55 | younix | Okay. |
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| 23:17.20 | younix | How do I kill the previous sesson? |
| 23:17.23 | mhanisch | hello |
| 23:17.26 | younix | of GDM. |
| 23:17.36 | mhanisch | ./name DeltaLima |
| 23:17.38 | SirGeorge | younix, /etc/initd.d/gdm restart |
| 23:17.41 | younix | Okay |
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| 23:17.54 | SirGeorge | younix, /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 23:18.05 | younix | Apparently I didn't do it right again |
| 23:18.11 | mhanisch | test |
| 23:18.18 | SirGeorge | younix, there was a type |
| 23:18.20 | SirGeorge | younix, there was a typo |
| 23:18.24 | younix | Nevermind. |
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| 23:19.10 | SirGeorge | younix, did it work? |
| 23:19.28 | younix | Hmm. |
| 23:19.28 | younix | Yea. |
| 23:19.36 | DeltaLima274 | Who is DeltaLima ?? |
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| 23:20.02 | younix | It's big. |
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| 23:20.05 | younix | Also. |
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| 23:20.17 | naldon | dang no one know what gdl is |
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| 23:20.26 | SirGeorge | younix, you mean big resolution? |
| 23:20.29 | younix | On Slackware 10.1, when I wasn't using a GUI, I still had a "mouse." I could move this little block around to copy things. |
| 23:20.32 | AaronF | DeltaLima274, == DeltaLima |
| 23:20.33 | younix | How do I do this on here? |
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| 23:20.44 | Eulex | naldon, gnome devtool libraries. /msg dpkg search |
| 23:20.49 | SirGeorge | younix, apt-get install gpm |
| 23:21.14 | Eulex | !tell younix about enter |
| 23:21.15 | Woosta | pdo.debian.net lists kde in stable, testing and unstable .. but I can't work out which version each one is .. am I missing something? |
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| 23:21.37 | younix | Eulex: You fucking idiot. I'm not using the enter key as puncutation. |
| 23:21.37 | adioe | Hey, I'm having trouble installing the nvidia drivers on the 2.6.15 kernel. Actually, it works on 2.6.12 but not on the newer versions. I have the unofficial Debian Sarge amd64. |
| 23:21.44 | SirGeorge | younix, but it's a bit funky setting it up to work parallel to X |
| 23:21.57 | whitehorse1 | spontaneous kde logouts since recent apt-get upgrades. anyone else experiencing these? (etch) (and yeah, strawpoll) |
| 23:21.57 | younix | SirGeorge: How do I fix my resolution? |
| 23:22.16 | mgoetze | younix: rtfm |
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| 23:22.23 | younix | mgoetze: Bite me. |
| 23:22.35 | tyranix | Hmmm does anyone else have /bin/{,u}mount.orig and /sbin/{swapon,losetup}.orig? I don't see them in apt-file searches. And I don't recall modifying them. |
| 23:22.35 | naldon | still no luck |
| 23:22.35 | deadcat_ | thats what you get for helping that moron guys. |
| 23:22.38 | deadcat_ | so dont help his ass. |
| 23:22.44 | younix | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM#Critcism |
| 23:22.46 | SirGeorge | younix, in the config process (dpkg-reconfigure...) you could choose from several resolutions (check with space bar) |
| 23:22.47 | whitehorse1 | righty, that's younix ignored. |
| 23:22.52 | younix | deadcat_: No. |
| 23:23.00 | younix | He said "rtfm." |
| 23:23.01 | younix | That doesn't help me. |
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| 23:23.11 | deadcat_ | i think only SirGeorge the only one helping him right now |
| 23:23.16 | younix | Yes. |
| 23:23.22 | younix | And I really appreciate it. |
| 23:23.27 | Tepian | türkçe bilen arkadas varmı? |
| 23:23.27 | younix | He isn't being rude. |
| 23:23.30 | younix | Unlike you fucks. |
| 23:23.50 | SirGeorge | no wars please |
| 23:23.58 | younix | SirGeorge: Okay. |
| 23:24.02 | Eulex | !tr |
| 23:24.02 | dpkg | it has been said that tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 23:24.09 | deadcat_ | SirGeorge: he will yell at you once you cant figure out his problem. believe me |
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| 23:24.22 | whitehorse1 | so yeah, the screensaver kicks in after a while and if I return to kde say ten mins later it logs me out back to the kdm login screen. recent upgrades (etch) were to kernel 2.6.15 and current kde libraries. Just me? |
| 23:24.23 | mgoetze | younix: well, this is one of the questions asked by 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86', so if you still need help, there's not much point wasting more energy on you |
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| 23:24.39 | younix | Nah. |
| 23:24.40 | Tepian | thanx |
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| 23:25.04 | younix | See, SirGeorge hasn't done anything or said anything remotly related to what you have said. |
| 23:25.13 | younix | So back off. |
| 23:25.20 | deadcat_ | what you gonna do? |
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| 23:25.25 | younix | Nothing. |
| 23:25.28 | deadcat_ | ok then |
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| 23:25.36 | younix | Probably ignore you. |
| 23:25.40 | deadcat_ | ok |
| 23:25.43 | younix | SirGeorge: What driver should I use? Vesa/ |
| 23:25.44 | younix | ?* |
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| 23:26.21 | SirGeorge | younix, depends on your graphics card, obviously. vesa is generic support, but unaccelerated |
| 23:26.29 | younix | Hmm. |
| 23:26.35 | younix | Well I really don't know what I should use. |
| 23:26.53 | noiesmo | younix, what card have you got |
| 23:26.54 | SirGeorge | younix, try vesa, it will work |
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| 23:28.00 | plbgnr | hello, is it possible to work with whole line? for example if I write this:find . -type d |grep ' ' I get lines with names of directories which have space in name...so If I want to replace spaces with '-' I can't use any of linux utilities because they work with arguments merged with space....so is the only solution to use python or perl here? |
| 23:28.11 | younix | noiesmo: I have no idea. |
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| 23:28.25 | noiesmo | younix, do lspci should tell you |
| 23:28.29 | younix | BRB. |
| 23:28.40 | SirGeorge | younix, wait a minute, you have a s3 onboard graphic. so try s3, if it doesn't try again with vesa |
| 23:28.52 | resiak | plbgnr: find /aoeuh -print0 | xargs -0 command to append arguments to |
| 23:28.58 | SirGeorge | oh well |
| 23:28.58 | noiesmo | SirGeorge, to late hes gone |
| 23:29.21 | plbgnr | resiak : yes of course thanks :) |
| 23:29.28 | resiak | plbgnr: in particular, find -depth . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 rename 's/ /-/' |
| 23:29.40 | Woosta | plbgnr: there's a rn by larry wall that takes a perl expression for renaming .. like: rn s/ /-/g |
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| 23:29.49 | noiesmo | SirGeorge, with s3 onboard I'd just use vesa but he's bolted |
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| 23:31.29 | SirGeorge | noiesmo, yeah you're right. i think s3support is there only for some old cards |
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| 23:34.53 | Woosta | To switch from stabe to testing, I just replace 'stable' with 'testing' in sources.list and run apt-get upgrade right? |
| 23:35.06 | Woosta | Or do I need to leave stable in the sources.list? |
| 23:35.13 | penguin__ | dist-upgrade |
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| 23:35.53 | Younix | Piece of crap. |
| 23:35.56 | Younix | Alsamixer doesn't even work omg. |
| 23:36.08 | deadcat_ | Younix: then dont use debian |
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| 23:36.14 | SirGeorge | btw, is there a way of painlessly downgrading from unstable to stable, eg? |
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| 23:36.22 | kameron | i'm interested in doing a bit of music composition. what kind of midi tools are out there, also mixing programs, recording software, etc, for linux? |
| 23:36.25 | Younix | deadcat_, fuck off? |
| 23:36.25 | Eulex | Woosta, you'll need to run apt-get update and then run apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 23:36.29 | Eulex | SirGeorge, no |
| 23:36.40 | penguin__ | I dont think downgrading is possible |
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| 23:36.53 | SirGeorge | Eulex, thought so unfortunatly |
| 23:36.55 | Peterken | Hello, I have a question. I have pgsql set up, but now i make 2 users, each one with a database they own. But both users can write in both databases. Is that changable? (I'm not known with pgsql) |
| 23:36.56 | Woosta | Thanks pplz .. but do I need to leave stable in source.list? |
| 23:36.57 | Golito | kameron, apt-cache search midi |
| 23:37.01 | Eulex | !downgrade |
| 23:37.01 | dpkg | downgrade is probably not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. |
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| 23:37.12 | Eulex | Woosta, no |
| 23:37.14 | mgoetze | kameron: if you're serious about it you'll want a windows program, but meanwhile there's at least brahms and rosegarden |
| 23:37.18 | Woosta | Eulex: thanks :) |
| 23:37.22 | jim__ | how can I apt-get install without configuring. I just want the files installed, but no configuration questions asked. |
| 23:37.29 | Younix | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 23:37.33 | kameron | mgoetze, i am serious about it, but would like to shy away from win software. i don't have windows installed atm. |
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| 23:37.46 | Eulex | Woosta, yw :) |
| 23:38.10 | Eulex | Younix, that means that you haven't configured alsa properly. have you run alsaconf? |
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| 23:38.22 | mgoetze | kameron: alternatively, get a mac ;) |
| 23:38.24 | noiesmo | kameron, http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3 check this |
| 23:38.31 | herbi | man the postnuke irc channel is dead :( |
| 23:38.45 | mgoetze | kameron: it's quite sad but the free notation programs are nowhere near the state of the art |
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| 23:38.55 | Sonny | do you knokw whats the best pdf viewer ??? |
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| 23:39.05 | jim__ | I know if I run dpkg, I can keep the configureation from occuring, but can not figure out how to do this with apt-get install |
| 23:39.09 | kameron | mgoetze, i have mac |
| 23:39.22 | amphi | Sonny: xpdf works for me |
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| 23:39.31 | Eulex | jim__, why do you need to do that? |
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| 23:39.42 | mgoetze | kameron: sibelius runs on mac os x... the next problem is that it costs $1000 or so |
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| 23:39.56 | Shadowcat | jim__: apt-get is about automation |
| 23:39.58 | kameron | mgoetze, sibelius eh, i'll check the bt sites |
| 23:40.10 | Shadowcat | jim__: if you deal with troublesome packages, use dpkg |
| 23:40.12 | mgoetze | kameron: shhh ;) |
| 23:40.42 | kameron | mgoetze, :P |
| 23:40.50 | jim__ | eulex: I am building a distro in a chrooted environment automatically, and can't have any questions asked. |
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| 23:41.34 | siimo | hi what does ' Ign ftp://debianmirror sid/main Packages ' mean? |
| 23:41.35 | ye_old | hi all, since packages.debian.org is down, i tried pdo.debian.net to get python-kde3 from unstable(which I need for running my superkaramba-themes properly). but all I get are 404, here is the page: http://pdo.debian.net/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool-kfreebsd-i386%2Fmain%2Fp%2Fpython-kde3%2Fpython-kde3_3.11.3%2B20051013-1%2Bb1_all.deb&md5sum=c7646e97133afe9b85c369ac741de336&arch=all&type=main |
| 23:41.36 | jim__ | shadowcat: I want the automatic fetching and dependency features of apt-get install, but not the configuration features. |
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| 23:41.57 | mgoetze | jim__: debconf does everything you want, read the docs ;) |
| 23:42.07 | Shadowcat | jim__: you do realize you're gonna have to hack a few packes for that don't you? |
| 23:42.07 | Sonny | and do you knokw whats the best pdf creator ??? |
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| 23:42.33 | jim__ | eulex and shadowcat: basically, I want to write a script that will build the chrooted environment without user questions. I don't want to have to curl all the packages or resolve dependencies. |
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| 23:42.55 | thingfish | Sonny: openoffice allows you to save as .pdf. |
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| 23:43.32 | Eulex | jim__, as mgoetze said; dpkg-reconfigure debconf and select the non-interactive one |
| 23:43.39 | mgoetze | jim__: also, check out debootstrap and fai, one or the other might be relevant to whatever it is you're doing |
| 23:43.39 | Eulex | jim__, and use -y |
| 23:44.03 | SirGeorge | Sonny, pdflatex :) |
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| 23:44.32 | jim__ | eulex: doesn't that already assume I have the package on the system, and know all the dependancies? |
| 23:45.03 | Eulex | yes, it assumes that you do have debconf. |
| 23:45.07 | magnate | Hi all - trying to upgrade from Sarge to Etch using dist-upgrade: conflict between knetworkconf and gnome-system-tools - can't fix with dpkg, any ideas? Tx |
| 23:45.14 | jim__ | mgoetze: I don't know about fai, but debootstrap does not resolve dependencies automatically (you can include stuff, but it doesn't guarantee that all dependencies) |
| 23:45.54 | jim__ | eulex: I am using -y already, that only stops the prompt telling me what is going to be installed. |
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| 23:46.56 | tyranix | jim__: It's been a while since I did anything with building debian packages, but I always used pbuilder and IIRC it always setup a chroot without asking me questions. I don't recall if it would get dependencies (my guess is yes). |
| 23:46.57 | Sonny | thanks |
| 23:47.20 | tyranix | you can tell it to install extra packages when you build the base.tgz |
| 23:49.06 | jim__ | tyranix: I am looking at pbuilder now. Thanks for mentioning it. |
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| 23:49.33 | jim__ | mgoetze: I am also looking at fai, thanks for mentioning it. |
| 23:49.46 | mgoetze | jim__: np |
| 23:50.09 | _Brandon_ | hi, how can i lower cached memory usage? i've nearly 400mb of ram used for caching |
| 23:50.27 | bbrazil | _Brandon_: there's nothing wrong with cached files |
| 23:50.33 | mgoetze | _Brandon_: you don't want to do that. forget about it. |
| 23:50.57 | _Brandon_ | yes but it's half of total ram |
| 23:51.15 | bbrazil | _Brandon_: just ignore it, it makes your system faster |
| 23:51.20 | SirGeorge | _Brandon_, "free ram is bad ram" |
| 23:51.37 | _Brandon_ | so only 35mb free ram is good? :D |
| 23:52.05 | SirGeorge | _Brandon_, yeah, as long it's not all apps that use but rather the cache |
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| 23:52.24 | Shadowcat | cached ram == good |
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| 23:52.39 | tyranix | _Brandon_: Run 'free -m' and look at the line with -/+ buffer. That's your RAM used without buffering. Buffered is good (no use in having free RAM just sitting there). Or look at vmstat output and see if you're swapping pages. |
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| 23:53.10 | bbrazil | Shadowcat: you mean cached disk I assume |
| 23:53.13 | _Brandon_ | ok thanks |
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| 23:53.28 | Shadowcat | bbrazil: ya |
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| 23:53.36 | bbrazil | Shadowcat: althoguh cached ram is also good |
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| 23:54.03 | SirGeorge | bbrazil, how comes= |
| 23:54.15 | mdupont | hi, i have a package moodle that i cannot uninstall. how can i see the error? |
| 23:54.29 | bbrazil | SirGeorge: cached ram is the on-chip caches (on modern CPUs) |
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| 23:54.52 | SirGeorge | bbrazil, sure, i thought you meant inside the os |
| 23:55.30 | bbrazil | SirGeorge: thats also good, but I don't think too many people have more than 4GB on x86 systems anmd use PAE |
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| 23:55.50 | SirGeorge | bbrazil, i see |
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| 23:56.38 | bbrazil | mdupont: have you tried apt-get remove moodle ? |
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| 23:57.25 | ye_old | anyone in here using superkaramba succesfully under debian? |
| 23:57.40 | SirGeorge | mdupont, how comes you know you can't install when you can't see an error? or do you mean aptitudes log files and such? |
| 23:59.05 | Sonny | xpdf vs evince? |
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