| 02:43.21 | *** join/#debian apt (i=ibot@rikers.org) |
| 02:43.21 | *** topic/#debian is PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | NOTE: this is NOT #ubuntu. | BORKED: packages.d.o, use pdo.debian.net instead | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: sid, etch and /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java |
| 02:43.28 | _unstable | Tarantulafudge: no it is not |
| 02:43.49 | _unstable | !tell Tarantulafudge about gui |
| 02:43.50 | Tarantulafudge | _unstable, well its not a CLI, so what is it? |
| 02:43.53 | kspath | GUI == Graphical User Interface |
| 02:44.06 | kspath | curses is curses |
| 02:44.08 | Azar | http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/rcconf |
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| 02:44.28 | sdvsdg | i there a way to make windows in KDE translucent |
| 02:44.39 | Tarantulafudge | is pcmia really necessary for a server? |
| 02:45.20 | _unstable | Tarantulafudge: what is that? |
| 02:45.56 | Tarantulafudge | _unstable, pcmcia? |
| 02:47.16 | _unstable | Tarantulafudge: Why would pcmcia be needed for a server.(unless your network card interfaces uses pcmcia, in which case you need an internet connection for people to access your said server) |
| 02:47.21 | aidan | what is the thing that says "you have mail" every couple of seconds (bash), and how do I turn it off? |
| 02:47.26 | aidan | (for all users) |
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| 02:47.32 | _unstable | Tarantulafudge: does rcconf work for you?(you said pcmia first) |
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| 02:47.46 | _unstable | aidan: man mail, or just type mail |
| 02:47.48 | _unstable | !tell aidan about mail |
| 02:47.49 | dondelelcaro | aidan: sounds like you have something set in PROMPT_COMMAND |
| 02:47.50 | Tarantulafudge | _unstable, yes, it does |
| 02:48.20 | Azar | I used to have that pesky daemon sending me mail messages like that I got rid of it I do not even remember how |
| 02:48.58 | engineerdat | anyone have any suggestions for a less buggy music player than totem or rhythmbox in testing... |
| 02:49.08 | Azar | engineerdat: xmms |
| 02:49.16 | _unstable | engineerdat: amarok |
| 02:49.41 | engineerdat | Azar, _unstable, do they have id3 editing support? |
| 02:49.44 | _unstable | engineerdat: I use mocp, but that isn't a gui. |
| 02:49.50 | _unstable | engineerdat: yes |
| 02:50.00 | engineerdat | that would be a plus |
| 02:50.03 | Zodo | I can't wait until SongBird is in a usable form. The proof of concept was neat. |
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| 02:50.09 | Azar | engineerdat: I do not even know what a id3 editing is |
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| 02:50.50 | engineerdat | Azar, info (artist, title etc) for a mp3 file |
| 02:50.56 | engineerdat | thx all |
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| 02:59.32 | aidan | dondelelcaro: nothing in that variable, and I can't see anything in man mail about it |
| 02:59.40 | engineerdat | cd apt |
| 02:59.45 | engineerdat | shoot |
| 02:59.51 | sdvsdg | _unstable: thank you |
| 02:59.51 | kizme | so i've got an ATI All-In-Wonder, and the sound startup fails...? |
| 03:00.58 | _unstable | kizme: I don't know much/anything about all in wonders, but I bet people in #ati do |
| 03:01.13 | _unstable | !tell kizme about ati |
| 03:01.51 | Azar | ok someone can guess what STD is? |
| 03:02.11 | Newck | all-in-wonder 9600 - is the TV input supported? |
| 03:02.13 | Tarantulafudge | Azar, sexually transmitted disease? |
| 03:02.14 | sdvsdg | !tell sdvsdg about computer |
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| 03:02.17 | HeyJoe | sexually transmitted disease? |
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| 03:02.34 | Azar | Tarantulafudge: nope, you dirty mind: Security Tools Distribution |
| 03:02.45 | Tarantulafudge | Azar, oh, like knoppix std |
| 03:02.52 | nuambenzina | i think i did input the mirror wrong , it`s say " Testing apt sources... [0%] waiting for headers. can I cancel that with Ctrl+C ? |
| 03:02.52 | _joey | what is url address of a website to search for 3rd party packages ? |
| 03:03.04 | Azar | :) never seen a knoppix |
| 03:03.07 | sdvsdg | Azar: like condoms ^^ |
| 03:03.10 | Tarantulafudge | Azar, and your mind isn't dirty? where have you been the last century? |
| 03:03.28 | nuambenzina | ?... |
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| 03:03.38 | Azar | Tarantulafudge: if you want to take this way, then yes, we are all just a bunch of bacteria |
| 03:03.42 | _joey | apt-cache.org ? |
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| 03:04.01 | Tarantulafudge | Azar, lol them are fight-en words! |
| 03:04.15 | nuambenzina | i didn`t worked Ctrl+C.. |
| 03:04.26 | zebalin7 | kdeinit: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden (I get a "cant' start kdeinit" message at boot.) |
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| 03:04.55 | sdvsdg | !tell dpkg about std |
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| 03:05.25 | sdvsdg | !tell tarantulafudge about std |
| 03:05.31 | nuambenzina | from where Debian Logo is/come/came ? |
| 03:05.38 | Tarantulafudge | sdvsdg, i prefer backtrack, |
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| 03:05.56 | Navop | trying to setup quota and i'm getting an error. |
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| 03:06.04 | Navop | when i run the cmd quotacheck -avugm i get the following why? quotacheck: Can't find filesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option. I followed the steps? |
| 03:06.06 | sdvsdg | ok |
| 03:06.08 | nuambenzina | nobody knows`? |
| 03:06.28 | phu | anyone can help me on Grub problems? I just installed a fresh debian, when it boots up it show no such partition, i think the grub is installed wrongly |
| 03:06.32 | Azar | daca nu ai benzina.. |
| 03:06.38 | Azar | oh sorry wrong window |
| 03:06.44 | Navop | lol |
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| 03:07.13 | sdvsdg | !tell azar about windows |
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| 03:07.22 | phu | my HDs setting are 1 SATA and 2 IDE connected to RAID IDE |
| 03:07.30 | concept10 | How do I enable Hardware acceleration in xorg? |
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| 03:09.48 | Azar | cool little howto for rcconf |
| 03:09.53 | nuambenzina | !tell nuambenzina about windows |
| 03:10.28 | nuambenzina | !tell nuambenzina about debian loggo |
| 03:10.39 | nuambenzina | !tell nuambenzina about debian logo |
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| 03:10.58 | nuambenzina | hm |
| 03:11.01 | nuambenzina | "telling yourself: well, debian logo is the sweetest logo ever" |
| 03:11.08 | nuambenzina | strange |
| 03:11.16 | nuambenzina | i know that sign means something |
| 03:11.35 | thingfish | nuambenzina: you should /msg the bot. It also understands "me". |
| 03:11.58 | prp | hello, i have a problem with a box, i got "sda: Current: sense key: Medium Error" EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block - inode=4178415, block=8355862 Remounting filesystem read-only could this be a software problem ? hdd is 3 months old |
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| 03:13.00 | nuambenzina | oky |
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| 03:14.05 | somePriest | Well, I'm in unstable (I know I shouldn't be, but that doesn't help the matter). X was working, then broke. I spent ages reconfiguring xserver-xorg and other goodies, and got it working again. Now with a recent update its broken yet again. By broken I mean if I startx or X, I get a black screen, and the machine hangs indefinately. I can't drop to console. |
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| 03:14.53 | somePriest | ...so, is there docs on getting it to work right in unstable? |
| 03:15.33 | Azar | somePriest: I doubt you will get help at that stage |
| 03:15.49 | exobyte | weird, offtopic, question: when a DES key is encrypted in RSA, why is, say, a PGP/GPG key way longer than 56 bits? |
| 03:15.50 | somePriest | Azar : At what stage sorry? |
| 03:16.08 | Azar | somePriest: running Unstable and having it crashed |
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| 03:16.57 | engineerdat | _unstable, if you're there, thx for amarok suggestion, i like it |
| 03:17.35 | somePriest | Azar : I don't mind the crashing bit, its getting it back to something reasonable that concerns me. |
| 03:17.36 | Azar | I wish I know how to disable exim |
| 03:18.06 | engineerdat | Azar, im a noob, but what about apt-get remove exim -s? |
| 03:18.22 | Azar | engineerdat: I did, but I still see it listening on port 25 |
| 03:18.34 | Azar | so wtf is it doing there when I removed it? |
| 03:19.22 | Azar | is it that debian or any other OS can't run without a mail proggie? it HAS to be one there? |
| 03:19.32 | engineerdat | Azar, you could dbl-check with dpkg --get-selections | less |
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| 03:20.00 | dannyp | Azar: generally unix-based machines need an MTA, even if just to handle local mail delivery |
| 03:20.05 | engineerdat | Azar, and i assume you've rebooted |
| 03:20.08 | dannyp | lots of things will expect to be able to send mail to you (e.g. cron) |
| 03:20.09 | engineerdat | Azar, ? |
| 03:20.29 | Azar | is there, all for packages |
| 03:20.43 | engineerdat | okay so maybe apt-get remove exim is a bad idea then? |
| 03:20.51 | Azar | exim exim4-base exim4-config and exim4-daemon-light |
| 03:20.58 | engineerdat | ive been thinking about doing it myself |
| 03:21.09 | jetx | exim is exim3, which is != exim4 |
| 03:21.22 | Azar | I never intend to run a box-based email so I do not see the sense to have it |
| 03:21.35 | Azar | unless system uses it for daemon messages or something |
| 03:21.38 | jetx | things on your box send you mail on your box |
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| 03:21.47 | jetx | yes that |
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| 03:22.16 | Azar | jetx, then I will have to find out how to block it from listening on port 25 |
| 03:22.30 | Azar | it really stays on my nerves seeing it there |
| 03:22.33 | jetx | dpkg-reconfigure exim4-conf i think |
| 03:22.42 | jetx | i forget though |
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| 03:23.03 | jetx | or run exim-config... something like that |
| 03:23.12 | dannyp | or just be lazy and firewall off the port |
| 03:23.37 | jetx | hey just like aol! |
| 03:23.44 | justin | how do you expect to firewall a port that isn't even open to begin with? |
| 03:24.02 | aFlag | hi, when i start my system i get a kernel panic and it says "/sbin/init:432:cannot create /dev/null:Directory nonexistent" and "/sbin/init:433:cannot open dev/console:No such file". Any ideas what could it be? |
| 03:24.15 | jetx | heh |
| 03:24.17 | jetx | it's udev |
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| 03:24.43 | dannyp | justin: ... if he's running an MTA that's binding to port 25, then it clearly is open, but if we are being pedants, there's absolutely no problem with firewalling off a port that isn't open |
| 03:25.01 | Azar | I remember I have opted out for exim configuration at install time |
| 03:25.16 | jetx | //dev/null isn't available when (i forget which udev script) is doing it's thing |
| 03:25.32 | aFlag | hum |
| 03:25.37 | justin | dannyp: no. exim in debian by default listens on 127.0.0.1 |
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| 03:26.00 | dannyp | justin: ah |
| 03:26.15 | jetx | aFlag when you get dumped to ash/busybox, try modprobe ide-generic... |
| 03:26.21 | jetx | then exit |
| 03:26.42 | sdvsdg | any reason why apt-get install mozilla-mplayer returns "couldnt find package" (i have marillat) |
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| 03:26.43 | jetx | there's a thread you should read though |
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| 03:26.48 | Azar | funny thing I kill it in top and still up listening |
| 03:26.51 | sdvsdg | ? |
| 03:27.02 | jetx | a bts thread |
| 03:27.29 | jetx | !bug 352274 |
| 03:27.40 | jetx | aFlag: read that bug report on the debian bts |
| 03:27.45 | sdvsdg | nick bird |
| 03:27.57 | bird | any reason why apt-get install mozilla-mplayer returns "couldnt find package" (i have marillat)? |
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| 03:28.15 | m1ke_l | did you apt-cache search first? |
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| 03:28.20 | jetx | got non-free contrib , sdvsdg/bird? |
| 03:28.23 | Azar | bird, did you configure your apt sources.list? |
| 03:28.29 | snadge | bugs.debian.org does not work for packages which are contained in contrib? |
| 03:28.37 | bird | no, i dont know, and yes :) |
| 03:28.41 | jetx | apt-get install doesn't |
| 03:28.46 | jetx | not sure about bugs |
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| 03:29.19 | snadge | i cant find or submit any bugs for the quakeforge package |
| 03:29.21 | Azar | elnovato: you read that article? |
| 03:29.36 | jetx | omg gforge won't uninstall btw if that helps |
| 03:29.40 | giovanni | alguien habla español |
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| 03:29.43 | jetx | !es |
| 03:29.44 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:29.47 | jetx | ayar |
| 03:30.12 | bird | what is non-free contrib? |
| 03:30.12 | elnovato | Azar: about the cyber gangsters? |
| 03:30.18 | jetx | !contrib |
| 03:30.18 | dpkg | it has been said that contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free software To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'non-free contrib' on the end. |
| 03:30.18 | Azar | yes |
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| 03:30.36 | bird | !botsnack |
| 03:30.36 | dpkg | :), bird |
| 03:30.47 | elnovato | Azar: yes , i was reading but suddendly kde crashed |
| 03:31.05 | bird | !go back in your cage now dpkg |
| 03:31.12 | Azar | gah kde, I do not need kde to use firefox |
| 03:31.24 | elnovato | Azar: wanna start your mafia club? |
| 03:31.41 | Azar | no, but I was impressed, I did not know it took such proportions |
| 03:32.10 | jetx | hoo-wee i'm a real man now, no metapackages |
| 03:32.16 | elnovato | i feel raped, they powned my server long ago |
| 03:32.25 | jetx | baremetal the mf |
| 03:32.35 | Azar | elnovato: it is good, you learn from that |
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| 03:32.46 | elnovato | yes very intersting statistics |
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| 03:32.58 | Azar | .. I ment from the accident you had |
| 03:33.34 | engineerdat | jetx, did you use a net-inst cd to do that, or something else? |
| 03:33.45 | dannyp | if you think that's what rape feels like, be glad you're not a real rape victim |
| 03:33.48 | jetx | apt-get install |
| 03:33.53 | engineerdat | netinst w/o any extra pkgs installed i mean |
| 03:34.07 | elnovato | that too, just i wonder if someone calls me "pay 10k usd or we will cyber-kill ya" |
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| 03:34.20 | jetx | one by one, reading the suggested/recommended packages, and then apt-cache search when needed |
| 03:34.33 | jetx | how do i redraw the screen in irssi |
| 03:34.47 | phu | grub problem with SATA and IDE on RAID |
| 03:34.53 | orchid | ctrl-l jetx |
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| 03:34.59 | jetx | thanks |
| 03:35.00 | Azar | ctrl left click |
| 03:35.11 | jetx | click? |
| 03:35.16 | jetx | there is no click |
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| 03:35.28 | Azar | ah you are on console? |
| 03:35.40 | kurumin | ola |
| 03:35.58 | Azar | I use it on X .. |
| 03:35.59 | engineerdat | jetx, how did you install debian initially? just curious, i've wnated to do an install w/o using "desktop env" and/or "standard pkgs" |
| 03:36.07 | kurumin | alguem sabe onde faço download do asterisk? |
| 03:36.15 | thingfish | !br |
| 03:36.15 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 03:36.32 | phu | anyone can help me with grub problem with SATA and IDE on RAID |
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| 03:36.33 | elnovato | minina |
| 03:36.34 | jetx | phu you may need to specify the module loading order in your initrd, by recreating the initrd and using (/etc/mkinitramfs?) rules... |
| 03:36.36 | Azar | engineerdat: try warge |
| 03:36.47 | kurumin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.50 | kurumin | ola |
| 03:36.53 | jetx | engineerdat: etch beta, or just don't use tasksel |
| 03:36.58 | jetx | or base-config |
| 03:37.27 | engineerdat | Azar, jetx, thx |
| 03:38.03 | aFlag | jetx: i don't think the bts bug there is related to my problem, i'm actually using kernel 2.6.8-2 with debian sarge |
| 03:38.30 | jetx | ok shouldn't be related then. sounded similar |
| 03:38.58 | aFlag | what's that ash/busybox thing you said earlier? |
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| 03:39.07 | bird | i need java to play go on kgs but i am not sure which apt-get is the correct install. Anybody know? |
| 03:39.20 | jetx | try to modprobe ide-generic, then exit the shell |
| 03:39.30 | jetx | you have an intel chipset? |
| 03:39.31 | aFlag | hum, i don't get to shell though |
| 03:39.33 | aFlag | yes |
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| 03:41.29 | chaedaeX_ | oh but he said it installed without error |
| 03:41.30 | jetx | bbl, try the other stuff first |
| 03:41.42 | jetx | yeah... been there done that |
| 03:41.44 | nuambenzina | witch is that command ? deb-config / debian -base config ? |
| 03:41.46 | phu | I am using debian daily netiso |
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| 03:41.51 | jetx | base-config |
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| 03:41.52 | aFlag | i don't think i have a problem with that, it was working for the last few months, it just happened to crash today. |
| 03:41.58 | jetx | phu me too |
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| 03:42.02 | nuambenzina | 10q jetx |
| 03:42.14 | aFlag | is there some files in /etc that tells udev how to work? |
| 03:42.14 | phu | how can I resolve the issue |
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| 03:42.21 | phu | I am only a newbie |
| 03:42.28 | jetx | aFlag: /usr/share/udev iirc under there |
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| 03:42.39 | jetx | or /usr/share/docs/udev |
| 03:42.40 | nlindblad | hi |
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| 03:42.47 | _unstable | phu: login as root and type update-grub |
| 03:42.48 | m1ke_l | hi nlingblad |
| 03:42.51 | pinecone | hi everyone |
| 03:42.57 | nlindblad | if I do a freehand drawing looking kinda like the Debian logo |
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| 03:43.01 | chaedaeX_ | phu: it should be hd2,2, not hda |
| 03:43.12 | nlindblad | can't I post in on a site like Devianatart? |
| 03:43.15 | kakume | why can't i deinstall or remove packages? (ex: dpkg deinstall mpg123 output: need an action option) |
| 03:43.26 | jetx | apt-get remove |
| 03:43.31 | phu | ok |
| 03:43.36 | nlindblad | s/in/it/ |
| 03:43.50 | m1ke_l | nlindblad i bet the logo is also as free as the os, but i'm not a lawyer |
| 03:43.51 | jetx | chaedaeX_: won't work. ymmv(ihope) |
| 03:44.00 | phu | I can't login to windows as well |
| 03:44.10 | jetx | ah might work |
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| 03:44.31 | pinecone | I am loading sarge onto an acerpower 486 with a 540 Mb HDD. The load was ticking along following the peompts until the base system was going to be written, whereupon the error read that it couldn't determine the codenam! Ideas? |
| 03:44.35 | chaedaeX_ | jetx: well its definitely not hda2,2 that's not in the naming convention |
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| 03:44.44 | jetx | you'll probably find that windows is now on a hidden partition though |
| 03:44.50 | jetx | it's (hd2,2) |
| 03:44.51 | cheloo | hi all, where is xorg.conf located ? |
| 03:44.57 | jetx | //etc/X11 |
| 03:44.58 | m1ke_l | /etc/X11 |
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| 03:45.02 | cheloo | no there |
| 03:45.03 | cheloo | :) |
| 03:45.04 | m1ke_l | damn you type fast jetx |
| 03:45.11 | m1ke_l | is xfree86 there? |
| 03:45.26 | jetx | yes, if you mean XF86Config-4 |
| 03:45.30 | phu | yes, still |
| 03:45.33 | jetx | or wo9uld be if you had it |
| 03:45.34 | cheloo | i said where is xorg.conf locate nor free86 |
| 03:45.39 | kakume | i'm trying to get onboard sound working on an abit an8 motherboard under amd64 sid. how do i do so? |
| 03:45.40 | m1ke_l | then you are on XFree86, not the new xorg |
| 03:45.41 | jetx | both moron |
| 03:45.42 | phu | Error 22: no such partition |
| 03:45.46 | jetx | either/or |
| 03:45.48 | jetx | :) |
| 03:45.50 | cheloo | lol |
| 03:45.55 | cheloo | i mean xorg.conf :) |
| 03:46.00 | jetx | both would be there |
| 03:46.04 | _unstable | kakume: type this as root, apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils; alsaconf; |
| 03:46.07 | jetx | depending on what you have installed |
| 03:46.11 | m1ke_l | depends on which X you have |
| 03:46.13 | _unstable | kakume: Then as non-root type alsamixer and turn up all the levels |
| 03:46.15 | m1ke_l | damn you jetx! |
| 03:46.15 | jetx | same place |
| 03:46.49 | jetx | phu i feel your pain... brbbl |
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| 03:46.57 | cheloo | how do i get rid of the xfree86 and install xorg ? |
| 03:46.58 | _unstable | cheloo: type "locate xorg.conf" |
| 03:47.03 | _unstable | !tell cheloo about drxx |
| 03:47.11 | kakume | thanks, _unstable |
| 03:47.12 | Dimension | *carambar mampf* |
| 03:47.13 | _unstable | cheloo: What version of debian? |
| 03:47.20 | Demonishi | I have a slight problem, if anyone is willing to help. I installed some packages which someone else built from a CVS respitory. Something didn't install correctly, so I needed to restart, however.. in the process of removing everything, one of the packages refuses to uninstall. I cannot perform any apt-get installs because of it though. Keeps refering back, telling me to force install or whatnot and it's refusing. Of course. If someo |
| 03:47.27 | m1ke_l | that only works if your database is updated...run updatedb first |
| 03:47.28 | cheloo | _unstable done that already , i dont have xorg installed , debian doesnt install xorg by default :) |
| 03:47.33 | _unstable | cheloo: What version of debian? |
| 03:47.44 | phu | for windows: root (hd2,0)\ Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xf\ savedfault\ makeactive\ Error 12: Invalid device requested |
| 03:47.45 | nlindblad | m1ke_l, I suck at drawing and everthing involving creation |
| 03:47.48 | nlindblad | m1ke_l, http://www.deviantart.com/view/29270396/ |
| 03:47.56 | cheloo | _unstable starge |
| 03:48.15 | kakume | hrm.....no supported pci/pnp soundcards found. |
| 03:48.21 | _unstable | cheloo: type /topic and read it |
| 03:48.27 | kakume | i'm guessing it's not supported, then? |
| 03:48.36 | m1ke_l | very nice. |
| 03:48.38 | _unstable | !tell cheloo about xorg sarge |
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| 03:48.49 | bird | are mozilla and firefox the same thing? |
| 03:48.54 | _unstable | bird: no |
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| 03:49.04 | _unstable | bird: Mozilla is a foundation(company), firefox is software. |
| 03:49.09 | mwillis | Is there an official GNU channel? |
| 03:49.17 | nlindblad | m1ke_l, looks like someting a two year old would draw, but thanks |
| 03:49.19 | chaedaeX_ | mozilla is also a browser, at least on my system |
| 03:49.21 | _unstable | bird: Mozilla used to be a suite for a web browser, but it has been discontinued and now is called seamonkey |
| 03:49.26 | pinecone | I am running in low mwmory mode for the install session, doe s anybody know about this? |
| 03:49.31 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: not officially anymore |
| 03:49.42 | chaedaeX_ | _unstable: what am i running then? |
| 03:49.51 | chaedaeX_ | _unstable: is it no longer being maintained? |
| 03:49.52 | kevix | bird: mozilla is usually = broswer+mail viewer+html composer. firefox = only broswer |
| 03:49.53 | phu | can you help me for linux grub said error 22, for windows error 12 |
| 03:50.05 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: mozilla. But there hasn't been development in over 6 months, it's been discontinued. |
| 03:50.10 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: correct |
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| 03:50.26 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: The new project name is called seamonkey, Mozilla Foundation dropped the Mozilla suite to focus on firefox/thunderbird. |
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| 03:50.33 | chaedaeX_ | ii mozilla-browser 1.7.12-1.1 The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser |
| 03:50.41 | bird | so what you are saying is firefox=vasup and mozilla=ish don think so |
| 03:50.44 | jetx | phu: recovering windows will be easy enough. getting both to peacefully co-exist using grub might not be. |
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| 03:51.01 | jetx | phu got any live cd's? i recommend #kanotix if you don't. |
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| 03:51.21 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: So you are using legacy software now. |
| 03:51.26 | phu | what do you mean, |
| 03:51.37 | worthy | can i get bash scripting help in there too? |
| 03:51.39 | jetx | i mean do you have knoppix or something |
| 03:51.39 | chaedaeX_ | _unstable: are you sure? that's not what i was told |
| 03:51.43 | phu | recover windows? and then? |
| 03:51.45 | jetx | available to you |
| 03:51.56 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: I'm positive. chaedaeX_ /connect irc.mozilla.org and join #mozilla |
| 03:51.59 | cheloo | _unstable thanks |
| 03:52.06 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: /join #seamonkey while you're there also. |
| 03:52.13 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/mozilla |
| 03:52.14 | phu | I only have no idea, I have the debian installation disk |
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| 03:52.20 | chaedaeX_ | hmm no seamonkey available in sid |
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| 03:52.39 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: I don't know if seamonkey is for linux, probably only going to be windows now. |
| 03:52.50 | elnovato | !zlib |
| 03:52.50 | dpkg | hmm... zlib is zlib1g and zlib1g-dev |
| 03:52.52 | jetx | phu ok. there is a rescue mode on the debian cd. but anyway. |
| 03:52.58 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ |
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| 03:53.18 | chaedaeX_ | _unstable: so the only available version now for linux is the watered-down, luser-friendly firefox? |
| 03:53.26 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: seamonkey isn't officialy supported by mozilla, another community(seamonkey community iirc) devs on it. |
| 03:53.34 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: I guess. |
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| 03:53.49 | jetx | phu a live cd is one you can boot that has a complete operating system on it, no need for an hd. very useful in situations like this. |
| 03:53.57 | elnovato | !libpng |
| 03:53.57 | dpkg | libpng is, like, at http://www.cdrom.com/pub/png/ |
| 03:54.04 | unclemike | ? how do i log into to tex mode |
| 03:54.08 | bird | I apt-got installed mozilla-forefox, but I cant fint it :( where is it? |
| 03:54.13 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: I guess seamonkey hasn't been added to debian yet. |
| 03:54.17 | _unstable | chaedaeX_: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-1.0&os=linux&lang=en-US |
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| 03:54.35 | _unstable | !tell chaedaeX_ why is seamonkey not in testing |
| 03:54.39 | phu | I will boot into rescue mode |
| 03:55.07 | jetx | recovering windows is a simple matter of reinstalling the ms bootloader. you can use a w9x boot floppy, or the cd. also your xp/w2k cd can replace the bootloader for you. |
| 03:55.11 | chaedaeX_ | phu just edit the boot commands at the grub prompt |
| 03:55.29 | jetx | however, grub & lilo like to change partition types on the fly. |
| 03:55.43 | jetx | sometimes. also change the active partition. |
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| 03:55.51 | elnovato | !libjpeg |
| 03:56.06 | chaedaeX_ | jetx: what are you talking about? lilo and grub never change partition tables |
| 03:56.11 | aFlag | hi, is there something i have to put on /etc/fstab so udev mounts the /dev or something? |
| 03:56.16 | Demonishi | Any suggestions for a package that absolutely REFUSES to remove? |
| 03:56.16 | Kelsey23 | ok question....I'm installing Sarge with the Desktop Enviroment option...does that come with GNOME and KDE? |
| 03:56.19 | phu | how? I did try update-grub or grub-install, no luck |
| 03:56.23 | jetx | you'll probably find that (hd2,2) became (hd0,2) in grub. |
| 03:56.30 | jetx | chaedaeX_: guess again. |
| 03:56.55 | kevix | Demonishi: what is the error message? |
| 03:56.55 | chaedaeX_ | jetx: you guess again. they never touch it. |
| 03:57.00 | jetx | not majorly, but they do make them hidden. wanna bet? |
| 03:57.04 | unclemike | ? can anyone tell me how to get into text mode |
| 03:57.05 | ercin | heh bootchart is not starting initng |
| 03:57.16 | chaedaeX_ | jetx: that's not changing the type |
| 03:57.20 | kevix | unclemike: ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 03:57.21 | jetx | yes it is. |
| 03:57.28 | chaedaeX_ | jetx: and they only do that if you tell them to |
| 03:57.45 | elnovato | !nasm |
| 03:57.45 | dpkg | i guess nasm is Netwide Assembler, a free assembler. Homepage: http://www.web-sites.co.uk/nasm |
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| 03:57.46 | jetx | alt-f7 to get back |
| 03:57.50 | phu | both of debian and windows on my SATA(/dev/sda), other documents on my two IDE disk which connect to RAID |
| 03:57.56 | eeyore- | jetx: grub and lilo doesn't change active partition |
| 03:57.57 | Demonishi | kevix: Errors were encountered while processing, packagename then, E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1) |
| 03:57.59 | unclemike | kevix, thanks....downloading and installing nvidia driver |
| 03:58.01 | nomade | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.02 | chaedaeX_ | jetx: ah maybe it is technically |
| 03:58.03 | jetx | yes it does |
| 03:58.10 | nomade | how fixed this? |
| 03:58.14 | eeyore- | jetx: that's just bios probe order |
| 03:58.27 | jetx | one second |
| 03:58.29 | kakume | how do i find out what modules my system is equipped with? |
| 03:58.41 | Demonishi | kevix: I've tried purging, I've tried forcing, everything is the same. |
| 03:58.45 | kevix | Demonishi: did you try 'apt-get -f install' ? |
| 03:58.47 | bird | I apt-got installed mozilla-forefox, but I cant fint it :( where is it? |
| 03:58.48 | m1ke_l | kakume: lsmod |
| 03:58.50 | phu | how should I fix it |
| 03:58.50 | Demonishi | kevix: same thing. |
| 03:58.59 | jetx | lilo -A /dev/hda 3 |
| 03:58.59 | chaedaeX_ | kakume: you want to know all modules available on the system? |
| 03:59.02 | jetx | try that |
| 03:59.07 | jetx | then look in fsidk |
| 03:59.09 | jetx | fdisk |
| 03:59.15 | kakume | chaedaeX_: yes |
| 03:59.20 | thingfish | bird: look in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox |
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| 03:59.26 | jetx | or substitute an existing partition |
| 03:59.29 | kevix | Demonishi: what is the actually error? that was the LAST error message. |
| 03:59.34 | thingfish | bird: you should also have a corresponding menu entry. |
| 03:59.48 | chaedaeX_ | kakume: look under ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ |
| 04:00.01 | jetx | man lilo |
| 04:00.03 | chaedaeX_ | kakume: all the .ko files |
| 04:00.05 | jetx | info grub |
| 04:00.10 | Zodo | A little while ago I saw a daemon talked about that will lock out hosts that are attempting to bruteforce an SSH password. Can anybody recall what it was called? |
| 04:00.18 | chaedaeX_ | kakume: modinfo <module> to get info |
| 04:00.34 | kevix | Zodo: fail2log ? |
| 04:00.41 | eeyore- | jetx: you're on crack |
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| 04:00.49 | Demonishi | kevix: It's a login manager. After you attempt, it asks you if you wish to continue, yes, then it brings up the configure UI to choose another display manager login program, you pick one, no matter what, gets that error I gave you. |
| 04:00.54 | eeyore- | jetx: when you use that syntax, you *told* lilo to make hda3 the active partition |
| 04:01.00 | Zodo | It was something like blockhost...it had host somewhere in the name. |
| 04:01.10 | jetx | no. i'm on i've been studying this for 2 weeks because of 2.6.15 +udev +grub |
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| 04:01.15 | eeyore- | jetx: so of *course* it's going to become active. after all, you *told* it. were you not paying attention? |
| 04:01.24 | kevix | Demonishi: could you paste it in #flood |
| 04:01.42 | eeyore- | jetx: lilo doesn't *arbitrarily* change active partitions. just because it could, when told, doesn't change that. |
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| 04:02.30 | jetx | ah ok add arbitrary, and if the debian-installer didn't set it up that way sometimes depending on your hardware, and ok you're right. |
| 04:02.53 | jetx | and i'm still not up on change automatic |
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| 04:03.05 | Zodo | Aha...it was called BlockHosts |
| 04:03.22 | Zodo | It's a python script. |
| 04:03.29 | Demonishi | kevix: Is there a way to force the configure ui to not appear? |
| 04:03.33 | bird | crap I accidentally typed rm firefox in the mozilla-firefox dir. Is there any way to undo that? |
| 04:03.38 | kakume | thanks |
| 04:03.49 | aFlag | debian sarge even uses udev? |
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| 04:04.04 | jetx | nor why menu.lst has/had the hd0->hd2 switching in it(well it worked good, i just don't grok it) |
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| 04:04.06 | Demonishi | kevix: Something happens before it the curses window for "pick your login manager" appears but it's too quick. |
| 04:04.17 | kevix | Demonishi: debconf is part of the debian way. |
| 04:04.25 | thingfish | aFlag: well, it's there. I can't tell that it's actually doing anything, though. |
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| 04:04.38 | phu | how should I do it? |
| 04:04.49 | bird | what is the rm command for a directory |
| 04:04.57 | eeyore- | jetx: windows like to be on "first" hard disk. if it isn't on physically (bios probe order) first hard disk, you have to ask grub to help you switch bios order, to get windows to work |
| 04:04.59 | kevix | Demonishi: you can do as root: dpkg-reconfigure xdm |
| 04:05.01 | kakume | thanks |
| 04:05.34 | kevix | bird: rmdir |
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| 04:06.11 | kakume | ok, now my xserver stopped working all of a sudden...the server output has the wrong PCI:x:x:x identifier, but the config file it claims to be using has the right identifier. |
| 04:06.11 | Demonishi | kevix: Well, I already chose another one before doing that. Set it to GDM. No matter what, when I remove it, it wants to configure. Then after configuring, gives the error I gave you earlier. |
| 04:06.12 | bird | "directory is not empty" |
| 04:06.40 | jetx | but yeah |
| 04:06.47 | phu | any help? |
| 04:06.55 | jetx | bird apt-get install --reinstall maybe |
| 04:07.00 | kevix | Demonishi: what were you trying to do anyway? remove gdm by itself? |
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| 04:07.26 | bird | jetx:ty |
| 04:07.34 | Demonishi | kevix: No. I have 3 different ones installed. gdm, xdm and entrance. I'm trying to remove entrance. gdm is default already. |
| 04:08.07 | kevix | Demonishi: what is entrance? |
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| 04:08.32 | jayeola | entrance is a badd ass login manager |
| 04:08.32 | aFlag | gosh, i'll never be able to figure out this error now :-/ |
| 04:08.33 | kevix | Demonishi: I know of: xdm, kdm, gdm, wdm. |
| 04:09.03 | kevix | jayeola: It doesn't seem to be in sid? |
| 04:09.28 | jayeola | http://enlightenment.org |
| 04:09.45 | bird | demonishi: Why are you trying to get rid of it? |
| 04:09.50 | jayeola | i dont work for them :/ |
| 04:10.01 | Demonishi | kevix: It's one made for Enlightenment 17. The program in itself, works fine. However, of all the packages I was installing that were all depending on each other, when I started removing some of them (one or two didn't install properly apparently. It must of removed something it didn't like. I had to use aptitude to fix the broken packages. |
| 04:10.04 | kevix | jayeola: doesn't help. Demonishi is trying to remove it from a debian system but it doesn't seem to be in debian. |
| 04:10.41 | Demonishi | kevix: It's not in a public list. It's from a private deb tree that I manually added into sources.list |
| 04:10.43 | kevix | Demonishi: let me guess, none of these packages came from Debian. |
| 04:11.01 | Demonishi | kevix: Nopers. |
| 04:11.06 | jetx | phu you might find that windows is now a hidden partition. maybe not. you might also check /boot/grub/device.map . grub-install hd2,2 --recheck might help if it's wrong/incorrect. |
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| 04:11.21 | Demonishi | I can just ignore it I suppose. |
| 04:11.23 | Demonishi | heh |
| 04:11.42 | kevix | Demonishi: how many of these packages have you NOT removed? |
| 04:11.52 | jetx | examine /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 04:12.23 | bird | I must be missing something.. I cant run firefox by clicking it... it opens up a text window instead.. |
| 04:12.36 | jetx | phu, you may also probably need to regenerate your initrd while specifying the order that your sate and ide modules get loaded |
| 04:12.44 | jetx | err sata |
| 04:12.52 | Demonishi | kevix: Hrm, probably about 8 of them. |
| 04:13.45 | jetx | mkinitrd -t -u or something, not up on it |
| 04:13.46 | phu | is there any simple way to do it |
| 04:13.49 | jetx | heh |
| 04:13.57 | kevix | Demonishi: could you post the FULL message in #flood. I'm still missing info. |
| 04:14.06 | jetx | i'm not even sure about the answers, much less how to do them. |
| 04:14.12 | jetx | well that last |
| 04:14.38 | kaitlyn | Hi, I just set up debian and need to bring up two interfaces on boot eth0 with dhcpcd and eth1 with a manual ifconfig, can someone point me to the documentation for configuring interfaces through init.d on debian, I've looked though debian.org/doc and can't find a debian spacific one. I'm running the newest deb stable. |
| 04:14.55 | jetx | imo grub isn't your main problem, but all i know is i've been throught the same thing with an addin pata controller |
| 04:15.23 | Coweater | kaitlyn: man interfaces |
| 04:15.25 | aFlag | wtf happened to my /etc?! i have no rcX.d, that's probably what's fucking me |
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| 04:15.39 | jetx | heh |
| 04:15.47 | _unstable | lol |
| 04:15.48 | kaitlyn | Coweater: Thanks. :) |
| 04:15.52 | _unstable | Good luck with that aFlag |
| 04:16.02 | _unstable | aFlag: whatever you do, do not reboot.(ever) |
| 04:16.06 | jetx | !sing the udev song |
| 04:16.19 | aFlag | _unstable, i already did, lol :P |
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| 04:16.50 | jan_ | who needs iniscripts anyway :-) |
| 04:16.54 | aFlag | the only system i had everything working without any problems was my debian :( |
| 04:16.57 | jan_ | *init |
| 04:17.31 | aFlag | i don't know how it happened, i sure was playing with the partitions, but i don't know how could it be related |
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| 04:17.41 | aFlag | or maybe the gentoo instalation is evil hehe |
| 04:17.43 | jan_ | aFlag: you could try to restory your rcX.d dir's, you only need /etc/init.d and update-init orso |
| 04:17.46 | jetx | phu: you should have a -386 installer kernel that you should be able to boot up via a grub boot floppy, and fix stuff. |
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| 04:18.36 | phu | ok, i found what happen |
| 04:18.50 | jetx | phu: what worked for me was boot with the -386, apt-get install yaird, then apt-get remove udev, then reboot. |
| 04:18.54 | phu | I think it is just a problem with RAID or something |
| 04:18.59 | jetx | k |
| 04:19.26 | phu | I try to change the partition from hd2,2 to hd0,2, and it work |
| 04:19.30 | Cyis | anyone got any thoughts on this problem? for some reason my workstation is holding on to invalid DNS information. Sometimes within my own domain but now for domains outside my network/control completely... it is only this machine on my network having this problem. no DNS server running caching or otherwise... nothing in /etc/hosts |
| 04:19.37 | jetx | hey sounds familiar |
| 04:19.58 | jetx | g'luck |
| 04:20.04 | phu | maybe it is because when it boot up, it doesn't recognise the RAID IDE, so only one disk there |
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| 04:20.27 | phu | thanks for helping anyway |
| 04:20.35 | jetx | my addin is raid, but i don't raid my hd's. |
| 04:20.47 | roadfish | I did an apt-get update of firefox and am still at v1.0.7 but the firefox website has versinos up to v1.6 ... is there a way to get information on when Debian packages are expected to get the latest upstream version? |
| 04:21.30 | phu | I just used RAID feature and normal PIDE, doesn't really raid them too |
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| 04:22.46 | unclemike | ? in inittab...what number do i use to boot to the command line |
| 04:23.27 | Cyis | any ideas? |
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| 04:24.34 | nprice_ | I installed dosbox and SDL is trying to use /dev/audio, is there any way I can get it to use ALSA like everything else? |
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| 04:25.27 | kakume | what in debian keeps overwriting my resolv.conf everytime i reboot? |
| 04:25.52 | elnovato | there is a 3d programs like 3d studio, anyone renemba the name? |
| 04:26.03 | elnovato | !Blender |
| 04:26.03 | dpkg | somebody said blender was a free GNU GPL cross plaform 3D creation suite, allowing fully integrated modeling, animation, rendering, post production and interactive 3D creation and playback. http://www.blender3d.org, or #blenderchat, or a scanline renderer with nearly ray-traced quality |
| 04:26.04 | \amethyst | nprice_: what SDL library package do you have installed? |
| 04:26.16 | nprice_ | i'm not quite sure frankly |
| 04:26.30 | nprice_ | whatever got installed with sid |
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| 04:27.24 | \amethyst | nprice_: dpkg -l libsdl1.2\* | grep ^.i |
| 04:27.34 | unclemike | ? how do i set ( inttab ) to boot command line..no xserver |
| 04:28.13 | \amethyst | unclemike: you can replace the contents of /etc/X11/default-display-manager with the word "none" |
| 04:28.22 | bird | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.28 | elnovato | holy cow, blender is packed yayyy |
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| 04:28.51 | nprice_ | \amethyst: apparently i have OSS |
| 04:28.52 | unclemike | ok |
| 04:29.11 | kakume | what keeps rewriting my resolv.conf everytime i reboot? |
| 04:29.13 | nprice_ | \amethyst: installing alsa now ;) |
| 04:29.13 | \amethyst | nprice_: install libsdl1.2debian-all |
| 04:29.30 | \amethyst | nprice_: you probably want the all version |
| 04:29.45 | nprice_ | alrighty well i'll give it a whack ;) |
| 04:29.49 | \amethyst | nprice_: if you are interested in aalib, svga, or ggi support |
| 04:30.02 | \amethyst | if not, I guess -alsa is fine |
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| 04:30.48 | nprice_ | sound works |
| 04:30.49 | nprice_ | thanks |
| 04:30.55 | \amethyst | cool |
| 04:31.02 | nprice_ | now i can play system shock ;) |
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| 04:35.19 | kakume | how do i install my kernel's sources? |
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| 04:35.46 | kevix | kakume: the same way you install anything else : apt-get install |
| 04:36.31 | kakume | but how am i sure that the sources i download are the sources for my current kernel? |
| 04:36.56 | chou-chou | cat /proc/version and just make sure version numbers match up. |
| 04:37.25 | kevix | kakume: you apt-get install the save version? |
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| 04:39.22 | kevix | kakume: apt-cache search $(uname -r) |
| 04:39.30 | Kernel-Kris | how can i completly remove apache2 and reinstall with default configs......every time i apt-get remove apache2 the configs and all are still there...so i removed them and when i reinstall it wont reinstall the configs |
| 04:40.06 | kevix | Kernel-Kris: you need to purge. 'remove' does not remove your old configs. |
| 04:40.56 | peterS | Kernel-Kris: yeah that's by design. if you remove then later reinstall something, you don't have to worry about configuring it, because config files were kept. if you really do want to remove them, that's what 'aptitude purge' or 'apt-get remove --purge' do |
| 04:40.56 | Kernel-Kris | kevix: so how would i do that |
| 04:41.10 | kakume | kevix: ohh kay, i found it. thank you |
| 04:41.34 | ice_1963 | apt-get --purge remove |
| 04:44.11 | Kernel-Kris | ok after doing that i try reinstalling it and it doesnt reinstall the configs |
| 04:44.57 | kevix | Kernel-Kris: the idea is , once you install, and then upgrade, why would you want to remove YOUR configs? |
| 04:45.44 | peterS | Kernel-Kris: wait what package? apache2? I think most of the config lives in apache2-common |
| 04:46.04 | Kernel-Kris | well i foobarred the hell out of them then i deleted....now i just want to reinstall like day one :) |
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| 04:47.30 | jasonmcox | good evening |
| 04:47.50 | ice_1963 | hello |
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| 04:47.57 | kevix | peterS: in sid, apache2 does not depend on apache2-common ? |
| 04:48.15 | kevix | $GREETING |
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| 04:48.27 | peterS | kevix: if I'm not badly mistaken, apache2 is not a real package in sid. the real packages are apache2-common, apache2-mpm-prefork, apache2-mpm-whatever |
| 04:49.01 | elnovatillo | to recompile with Jam , to clean the coomand is , Jam clean? |
| 04:49.09 | elnovatillo | !crystal space |
| 04:49.09 | dpkg | from memory, crystal space is at http://crystal.sourceforge.net, a free (LGPL) and portable 3D Game Development Kit written in C++. It supports: true six degrees of freedom, colored lighting, mipmapping, portals, mirrors, alpha transparency, reflective surfaces, 3D sprites (frame based or with skeletal animation), procedural textures, radiosity, particle systems, halos, volumetric fog, scripting (using Python or other languages), and much much more. |
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| 04:49.39 | Kernel-Kris | well it reinstalled all the dir.. just no httpd.conf file |
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| 04:49.58 | Kernel-Kris | anyone know where i can get the defualt |
| 04:50.00 | kevix | peterS: yup. I had to go one dependency back... to get to apache2-common. |
| 04:50.50 | klock | hey, any support yet in kernel for core-duo? |
| 04:51.08 | peterS | klock: what is core-duo? |
| 04:51.13 | m1ke_l | dual-core? |
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| 04:51.20 | kevix | peterS: I think its the new intel chip. |
| 04:51.23 | klock | peterS: the intel core-duo processor |
| 04:51.26 | peterS | klock: SMP machines have been supported in Debian kernels since around 1998 |
| 04:51.40 | klock | peterS: this I know |
| 04:51.48 | peterS | klock: assuming a dual-core machine has a BIOS that presents it to the kernel as SMP, there should be no problem |
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| 04:52.21 | klock | wrong place to ask this question |
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| 04:52.36 | peterS | klock: there are many ways a BIOS can tell the kernel this - MPS 1.1, MPS 1.4, ACPI. the kernel supports all of these. |
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| 04:53.31 | elnovatillo | how to know is exists a package? |
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| 04:53.46 | kevix | elnovatillo: apt-cache search |
| 04:53.59 | elnovatillo | i mean in the chat bot |
| 04:54.11 | jasonmcox | ice_1963: hello how are you |
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| 04:54.23 | ice_1963 | good |
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| 04:55.05 | Zodo | Hey quick Kernel question...my lil' server is running on an old PII laptop that uses APM. I'm using Sarge w/ K 2.6.8, which doesn't seem to have APM support by default. I've got a bunch of modules already compiled against the stock kernel. Is it possible to add APM support via modules, or would I have to recompile the kernel? If I do, does it mean recompiling all of these modules? |
| 04:55.29 | nprice_ | `/quit |
| 04:55.38 | peterS | Zodo: I thought all debian kernels had apm support...? try 'modprobe apm' |
| 04:55.44 | jasonmcox | i have an issue and i know not how too troubleshoot it |
| 04:55.52 | kevix | Zodo: yes. what peterS said! |
| 04:55.54 | jasonmcox | is anyone available for the challenge |
| 04:56.18 | kevix | jasonmcox: if you provide plane fare, I'll be over soon! |
| 04:56.27 | Zodo | modprobe apm doesn't print anything out. |
| 04:56.35 | ice_1963 | oh no lol |
| 04:56.40 | kevix | Zodo: that means it worked! |
| 04:56.41 | peterS | Zodo: then it probably worked, or it would say something like module not found |
| 04:56.43 | elnovatillo | how to clean before compile a c++ app with jam ? |
| 04:56.48 | jasonmcox | kevix: would a phone call be acceptable |
| 04:56.51 | peterS | Zodo: you can type 'dmesg' to confirm this |
| 04:57.05 | kevix | jasonmcox: how about just telling us folks here first! |
| 04:57.12 | kakume | !nvidia |
| 04:57.12 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 04:57.18 | Zodo | Well golly gee, ain't that swell! |
| 04:57.25 | kakume | !nvidia installer |
| 04:57.25 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia installer is a script available from nvidia.com which installs nvidia drivers for you. However, it overwrites files that apt owns, which can get overwritten themselves when X is upgraded, leading to random breakage. Ask me about "nvidia-howto" or just "nvidia" |
| 04:57.44 | kakume | !nvidia-howto |
| 04:57.44 | dpkg | i guess nvidia-howto is http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html for complete instructions for installing the NVIDIA DRI drivers "The Debian Way" on Sarge or Etch. Warning : follow the instructions with some care. in particular, if you don't know better, set NVDIST=stable instead of testing or unstable |
| 04:57.46 | jasonmcox | folks: i can print from other programs but not mozilla or firefox the print job never shows up |
| 04:57.58 | elnovatillo | !jam |
| 04:57.58 | dpkg | i heard jam is a make replacement, see http://www.perforce.com/jam/jam.html |
| 04:58.07 | peterS | ewwww, p4 |
| 04:58.07 | Zodo | Now I just need to figure out why no apps seem to be able to get at the APM info, like battery info. |
| 04:58.13 | kevix | jasonmcox: I think you need xprint ? |
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| 04:58.19 | unix_infidel | hey guys, this line in sudoers isnt working - my_username ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set |
| 04:58.35 | kevix | Zodo: is this a toshiba? |
| 04:58.42 | unix_infidel | i mean i've set it all right and proper...but i still get prompted for my password. when i issue a command. |
| 04:58.47 | Zodo | Nope. It's an old PII 333 Gateway Solo. |
| 04:58.51 | jasonmcox | ok i will google brb |
| 04:59.01 | Zodo | I've had the APM working in Damn Small Linux before. |
| 04:59.06 | unix_infidel | any ideas? |
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| 04:59.54 | jasonmcox | kevix: should i try apt-get install xprint |
| 05:00.04 | Zodo | I tried an APM plugin for GkrellM, with no results. |
| 05:00.52 | kevix | jasonmcox: have you checked in /var/log/ for any print related logs? |
| 05:01.11 | jasonmcox | kevix: no let me check |
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| 05:01.34 | foo | I did apt-get install gnome-desktop ... and it installed like 402MB of stuff.. .how can I uninstall all of that? |
| 05:01.59 | kevix | foo: apt-get remove gnome-desktop / |
| 05:02.02 | kevix | foo: apt-get remove gnome-desktop ? |
| 05:02.02 | \amethyst | unix_infidel: user ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set perhaps? |
| 05:02.33 | unix_infidel | \amethyst: why (root)? |
| 05:02.34 | foo | kevix: That only installs 20kb ... not the 402mb I recently installed |
| 05:02.36 | \amethyst | unix_infidel: actually, hm... shouldn't matter |
| 05:02.37 | unix_infidel | is that how debian based systems handle things. |
| 05:02.41 | \amethyst | unix_infidel: since that's the default |
| 05:02.48 | unix_infidel | lol, ok then. |
| 05:03.00 | unix_infidel | iono, i thought sudoers was uniform.....so any other ideas/ |
| 05:03.18 | Zodo | Is there anything I can run, like cat /dev/apm_battery (or something along those lines) to see if APM is returning actual data? |
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| 05:03.59 | peterS | Zodo: it provides /dev/apm_bios but I don't think you can just 'cat' that. it also provides crap in /proc |
| 05:04.12 | foo | Bah. |
| 05:04.33 | foo | I installed gnome-desktop and it installed 402MB of stuff. I know I can do apt-get remove gnome-desktop, but it will only remove about 20KB .. how can I remove all the stuff I installed the first time? |
| 05:05.14 | Zodo | foo: maybe apt-get purge? |
| 05:05.16 | \amethyst | foo: remove the packages you don't need that gnome-desktop depends on |
| 05:05.24 | ice_1963 | :0) |
| 05:05.30 | foo | \amethyst: Haha, yeah, but *how* do I do that? :) |
| 05:05.36 | foo | Zodo: Nah, that removes configuration files |
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| 05:05.48 | Zodo | Oh, I'd just overheard it in here earlier. =) |
| 05:05.54 | \amethyst | foo: find the package in aptitude and start removing its dependencies :) |
| 05:05.56 | jasonmcox | kevix: i tried /var/log/cups |
| 05:06.00 | Zodo | I like synaptic or aptitude, myself. |
| 05:06.10 | kevix | foo: apt-get remove gnome-desktop-environment |
| 05:06.20 | foo | kevix: ah |
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| 05:06.40 | foo | kevix: that removes 20.5kb of stuff |
| 05:06.40 | \amethyst | foo: if you use aptitude to install a package, it will remember that the dependencies were installed automatically, and remove them when you uninstall the package. Won't help you this time, but in the future |
| 05:06.40 | foo | hmm |
| 05:07.09 | kevix | foo: do you have aptitude installed? try with that. |
| 05:07.21 | foo | kevix: hmm |
| 05:07.30 | jasonmcox | kevix: it doesent seem to be recording any errors but when i print it acts like it is sending it to print jobs but it never showes up there, the funny thing is i can print from konkeror |
| 05:07.30 | foo | \amethyst: ah, ok. bah. |
| 05:07.33 | \amethyst | foo: unfortunately, there's no way to tell now which dependencies were installed automatically when you installed gnome-desktop-environment and which were already there |
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| 05:07.38 | Zodo | *flex* A whole 657 bogomips. Booyah, that's manly. =) |
| 05:07.42 | foo | \amethyst: ah, lame. |
| 05:07.42 | elnovatillo | synaptic also renembers? |
| 05:07.47 | \amethyst | I think so |
| 05:07.52 | kevix | foo: if not, apt-cache show gnome-desktop will show what to remove. |
| 05:07.55 | elnovatillo | luckly i use aptitude for big installs |
| 05:07.56 | foo | ah |
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| 05:08.48 | kevix | jasonmcox: well I'd try xprint. I recall it help mozilla. |
| 05:08.59 | foo | hmm, well, I'm getting an error in X: EE: xf860OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux ... right before that I get .. apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac), apm: overridden by ACPI. - any ideas? |
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| 05:09.08 | jasonmcox | kevix: installing it with apt? |
| 05:09.23 | \amethyst | foo: you're trying to use a PS/2 mouse? |
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| 05:09.27 | foo | \amethyst: Yes |
| 05:09.31 | kevix | jasonmcox: I use aptitude, but any dpkg frontend works. |
| 05:09.42 | \amethyst | foo: does /dev/psaux exist? |
| 05:09.51 | jasonmcox | kevix: what if installing it breaks something is there a way to rollback like in xp |
| 05:10.14 | foo | \amethyst: Yes, it has been working fine for months ... I recently did apt-get install gnome-desktop and I restarted and now this. |
| 05:10.26 | Navop | how do i d/l and install ispconfig from root directory |
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| 05:10.31 | kevix | jasonmcox: you can remove or purge. not exactly rollback. |
| 05:10.38 | jshriver | good morning :) |
| 05:10.44 | jasonmcox | kevix: see like foos problem |
| 05:11.01 | jshriver | what would cause a "forbidden" error when loading localhost:631? |
| 05:11.05 | cjaymes | are there any other major gnome packages besides gnome-desktop-environment? |
| 05:11.05 | jasonmcox | kevix: wouldnt remove or purge help foo |
| 05:11.06 | jshriver | I dont get a login |
| 05:11.22 | kevix | jasonmcox: he has a slightly differnet problem. he installed a virtual package. |
| 05:11.27 | \amethyst | foo: were you using udev before? |
| 05:11.42 | jasonmcox | kevix: im scared |
| 05:11.43 | foo | \amethyst: Hmm, possibly. |
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| 05:11.50 | \amethyst | foo: because you are now |
| 05:11.53 | foo | \amethyst: oh. |
| 05:11.54 | jasonmcox | kevix: so do this under root terminal? |
| 05:11.58 | Navop | how do i d/l and install ispconfig from root directory |
| 05:12.02 | peterS | !comfort jasonmcox |
| 05:12.03 | dpkg | There, there, jasonmcox. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 05:12.05 | kevix | jasonmcox: 99% of error in debian are fixable. |
| 05:12.19 | Zodo | Hah, I just had to type apm to test it. |
| 05:12.20 | jasonmcox | =) |
| 05:12.26 | SlicerDicer- | hi I am looking at http://debian.osuosl.org/debian-cdimage/current/i386/iso-cd/ I dont know if thats the proper place to look or not for the debian installers anybody able to give me a hand? |
| 05:12.29 | jasonmcox | ok here goes brb |
| 05:12.33 | kevix | jasonmcox: when you install software, you must be root |
| 05:12.34 | \amethyst | foo: gnome-desktop-enviroment -> gnome-volume-manager -> hal -> udev |
| 05:12.44 | unix_infidel | can anyone help me out here, i've got a line in /etc/sudoers that's not working. |
| 05:12.48 | foo | \amethyst: Ah. What was I using before udev? I just used fluxbox? |
| 05:12.49 | unclemike | trying to install the nvidia driver from nvidia web site...but its saying it cant find kernel source in kernel tree...i have the kernel 2.8.8-2 386....the only kernel source for the 2.6.8 i could find and kernel tree..any idea's |
| 05:12.58 | unix_infidel | my_username ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set |
| 05:13.10 | \amethyst | foo: does /dev/psaux exist currently? |
| 05:13.11 | unix_infidel | and i still get prompted for a password whenevr issue cpufreq-set -f 600mhz |
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| 05:13.31 | foo | \amethyst: I've always used that... how do I check to see if it exists? |
| 05:13.34 | \amethyst | foo: udev is the devfs replacement---a dynamic filesystem for /dev |
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| 05:13.37 | GraveDigga | lol |
| 05:13.38 | \amethyst | foo: ls -l /dev/psaux |
| 05:13.42 | unix_infidel | anyone with ANY insight whatsoever. |
| 05:13.51 | elnovatillo | http://www.crystalspace3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-browse_image.php?offset=0&sort_mode=created_desc&desp=3&galleryId=12&imageId=167 |
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| 05:14.00 | elnovatillo | omg, ops wrong channel |
| 05:14.07 | foo | \amethyst: It exists |
| 05:14.20 | chaedaeX_ | unix_infidel: |
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| 05:14.38 | unix_infidel | chaedaeX_: ?? |
| 05:15.06 | kevix | unix_infidel: you did check the man page and the /usr/share/doc/ files first? |
| 05:15.06 | jasonmcox | is it ok to paste command line in this chat? |
| 05:15.17 | \amethyst | foo: hm, so a broken udev isn't your problem.. what does fuser /dev/psaux say? |
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| 05:15.20 | unix_infidel | kevix: for what, i'm pretty sure that's the right syntax. |
| 05:15.21 | \amethyst | !paste |
| 05:15.21 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 05:15.28 | kevix | jasonmcox: you can paste up to 3 lines. |
| 05:15.34 | unix_infidel | kevix: it works on just about every distro i've tried. |
| 05:15.37 | chaedaeX_ | unix_infidel: not sure. i usually use Cmnd_Alias for the commands |
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| 05:15.40 | jasonmcox | ok |
| 05:15.40 | TheWahbinator | uh after I debootstrap where are the packages stored |
| 05:15.52 | jasonmcox | kevix: well i installed xprint |
| 05:15.57 | unix_infidel | chaedaeX_: well i'm hearing that this is the PROPER way so that's what i'm going with. |
| 05:16.01 | foo | \amethyst: Returns nothing |
| 05:16.02 | foo | hmm |
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| 05:16.13 | kakume | ....why does a kernel package need busybox? |
| 05:16.15 | unix_infidel | for now until i get frustrated with this NONSENSE and just suid the crap. |
| 05:16.16 | kevix | jasonmcox: you may need to restart mozilla. |
| 05:16.25 | jasonmcox | ok let me try kevix |
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| 05:16.32 | Nexus | Ok. So I'm a bit confused. I just installed a 3com NIC into my existing debian server. It's now trying to use it as eth0 instead of eth1. How do I tell it to be eth1? |
| 05:16.37 | chaedaeX_ | unix_infidel: Cmnd_Alias CPUFREQ = /usr/bin/cpufreq or whatever, then put that after NOPASSWD: |
| 05:16.51 | chaedaeX_ | CPUFREQ after NOPASSWD |
| 05:16.58 | kevix | Nexus: ifrename |
| 05:17.08 | unix_infidel | chaedaeX_: lol, how about we fix the SUDO problem first. |
| 05:17.12 | unix_infidel | i hear a lot of people use it :P |
| 05:17.31 | chaedaeX_ | unix_infidel: that is the syntax for sudoers |
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| 05:17.50 | Nexus | kevix, Interesting. I had never heard of that before. I'll give that a shot. Thanks! |
| 05:17.50 | unclemike | ? anyone know why the nvidia driver when trying to install it..is saying it cant find kernel source in kernel tree ..when i have kernel source installed |
| 05:17.52 | jeffrin | hello |
| 05:17.54 | unix_infidel | chaedaeX_: but why should i have to use that cmd_alias for sudoers when its built in with the proper functionality. |
| 05:18.00 | jasonmcox | kevix: same thing it prints but never shows up in kjobviewer |
| 05:18.06 | unix_infidel | anyone else with any insight....it cant be that i'm doig something right and its not working. |
| 05:18.10 | jeffrin | spell check does not seem to work in openoffice.org |
| 05:18.16 | jeffrin | please help me out |
| 05:18.17 | kevix | jasonmcox: how about 'lpq' |
| 05:18.27 | Navop | can someone help plz. |
| 05:18.29 | jasonmcox | kevix: what is lpq |
| 05:18.30 | cjaymes | heh 3.5 hrs remaining to finish 'fixing' my box |
| 05:18.30 | shingouz | unclemike: iirc, you have to untar the source |
| 05:18.39 | bird | I have mozilla-firefox installed... how do i run it? :) |
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| 05:18.57 | kevix | jasonmcox: a basic unix command to show the print queue |
| 05:19.00 | cjaymes | bird, type firefox |
| 05:19.02 | chaedaeX_ | unix_infidel: does cpufreq call something else? it is a wrapper script maybe? |
| 05:19.18 | unclemike | shingouz, where do i go to untar the source |
| 05:19.25 | jasonmcox | 0 jobs |
| 05:19.36 | Navop | how do i d/l a prg from a cmd line |
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| 05:19.40 | \amethyst | or a symlink? |
| 05:19.41 | cjaymes | bird, orrrr, if you reeeeally want, mozilla-firefox |
| 05:19.49 | shingouz | unclemike: well.... how about look where you put the kernel source? |
| 05:19.49 | chaedaeX_ | Navop: wget |
| 05:19.55 | engineerdat | anyone have a url or a hint for me for transparent terminals in etdch? |
| 05:19.55 | Navop | ty |
| 05:19.58 | kevix | Navop: what is wrong with apt-get? |
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| 05:20.04 | cjaymes | Navop, or possibly apt-get, depending on your usage |
| 05:20.09 | Navop | tryin to get ispconfig |
| 05:20.14 | jasonmcox | kevix: o jobs somwhere between mozilla and lpq its loosing my print jobs |
| 05:20.30 | foo | \amethyst: Any more ideas? Lame. gnome breaks things apparently. ha |
| 05:20.30 | Navop | not a pkg |
| 05:20.44 | shingouz | Navop: what is ispconfig? |
| 05:21.01 | kevix | jasonmcox: what does 'lpstat -a' show? |
| 05:21.06 | unclemike | shingouz, its where ever the synaptic package manager put it |
| 05:21.11 | \amethyst | foo: I don't know what would be causing X to not find the mouse |
| 05:21.35 | foo | \amethyst: Hmm, what do you think I was using before udev? |
| 05:21.35 | shingouz | unclemike: dpkg -L <installed package name> |
| 05:21.39 | Navop | its a control panel |
| 05:21.39 | jasonmcox | kevix: officejet_v40xi accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00 |
| 05:21.54 | \amethyst | foo: if you didn't have udev, it was probably a static /dev directory |
| 05:22.00 | foo | \amethyst: ah |
| 05:22.02 | \amethyst | foo: but I don't think that's the problem |
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| 05:22.16 | cjaymes | Navop, for an isp, are you an isp? |
| 05:22.23 | \amethyst | foo: what happens when you cat /dev/psaux and move the mouse? |
| 05:22.31 | bird | How come when I type firefox it opens in KWrite |
| 05:22.53 | cjaymes | bird, are you typing it in a terminal? |
| 05:22.55 | jasonmcox | kevix: this isnt a known mozilla bug is it i meanb have you heard that other people using debian can print from mozilla or does everyone have this problem |
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| 05:22.58 | antiPoP | hello |
| 05:23.00 | foo | \amethyst: No such device |
| 05:23.02 | foo | hmm |
| 05:23.19 | cjaymes | foo, try /dev/amethyst |
| 05:23.19 | \amethyst | foo: modprobe psmouse |
| 05:23.23 | \amethyst | foo: then try again |
| 05:23.34 | foo | No such device, again, hmm |
| 05:23.35 | \amethyst | cjaymes: I am not a character device! :) |
| 05:23.37 | kevix | jasonmcox: people can print with it. but there have also been problems from time to time. have you checked the BTS? |
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| 05:23.40 | cjaymes | :-D |
| 05:23.49 | \amethyst | foo: did modprobe psmouse say anything? |
| 05:24.05 | jasonmcox | kevix: no i do not know what BTS is |
| 05:24.08 | shingouz | foo: lsmod | grep psmouse |
| 05:24.17 | \amethyst | jasonmcox: bugs.debian.org |
| 05:24.18 | Navop | cjaymes the link is http://www.ispconfig.org/downloads.htm |
| 05:24.29 | bird | now that I have linux I would like to remove the remaining windows xp partition. is there a way I can do that? |
| 05:24.50 | shingouz | bird: remove the partition or reformat it to something useful? |
| 05:24.54 | kevix | anyone here have any problems printing from mozilla lately? |
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| 05:25.18 | bird | I would like to format it and use the space for my current linux partition |
| 05:25.28 | shingouz | bird: mkfs |
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| 05:26.06 | \amethyst | bird: ext2resize |
| 05:26.06 | cjaymes | kevix, well, only because I hosed my / partition |
| 05:26.18 | RancidLM | can some one suggest a good debian based distro that would work on a 512usb drive.. and runs on a fat32 filesystem? |
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| 05:26.18 | \amethyst | bird: if you want to append it to your Linux partition, that is |
| 05:26.35 | cjaymes | kevix, I could have future problems, but I can't print at all right now |
| 05:26.40 | \amethyst | bird: which probably requires the windows partition to immediately follow the linux one on the disk |
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| 05:27.01 | \amethyst | bird: otherwise, you can use mkfs to make a new filesystem on the partition, then mount it somewhere appropriate for its size |
| 05:27.07 | cjaymes | RancidLM, debian is the finest of the debian based distros |
| 05:27.47 | RancidLM | cjaymes: ya.. but how do i get it on a usb drive? |
| 05:27.51 | shingouz | \amethyst: psssstt.... any chance of removing the backslash? ;) |
| 05:28.06 | \amethyst | shingouz: any particular reason? |
| 05:28.14 | \amethyst | breaks your nick complete? |
| 05:28.17 | kevix | RancidLM: why would you want to run on fat32? |
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| 05:28.18 | shingouz | RancidLM: install it |
| 05:28.35 | shingouz | \amethyst: no, just that it is painful to type... |
| 05:29.01 | \amethyst | shingouz: so leave it out :) |
| 05:29.01 | RancidLM | kevix: so i can still use the rest of the extra space for moving files in windows or @ work |
| 05:29.03 | skon | If a compiler tells me I need to have the libglade-2.0 libraries, what specifically should I install on my system? They'res a ton of glade stuff in the apt-cache... |
| 05:29.12 | bird | there is no mkfs help file. how do i specify which partition I would like to delete? |
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| 05:29.33 | kevix | RancidLM: you only need part of in vfat,not all. |
| 05:29.38 | shingouz | RancidLM: how about partitioning the usb drive then |
| 05:29.55 | kevix | RancidLM: google for puppy linux and pebble linux |
| 05:30.02 | cjaymes | skon, probably libglade-dev |
| 05:30.02 | \amethyst | shingouz: what Finnish character is it that \ maps to? |
| 05:30.20 | foo | \amethyst: /me screams - man, this is weird. |
| 05:30.20 | shingouz | \amethyst: altgr + |
| 05:30.42 | cjaymes | umlat? |
| 05:30.47 | kevix | jasonmcox: I'd try googleing on the debian-user mailing list or ask there. |
| 05:30.48 | skon | thanks cjaymes |
| 05:30.53 | jasonmcox | kevix: i am not good at using this BTS are there any other suggestions |
| 05:30.59 | Navop | now that i d/l ispconfig, i tried to gzip -d ispconfig.tar.gz and i get ispconfig.tar, what am i doing wrong |
| 05:31.03 | kevix | jasonmcox: I'd try googleing on the debian-user mailing list or ask there. |
| 05:31.11 | unclemike | shingouz, the kernel source is in /usr/src...so just untar it where its at..and thats it...or do i have to do anything eles |
| 05:31.17 | cjaymes | skon, looks like libglade0-dev is your only candidate on my box |
| 05:31.18 | kakume | where is the grub config file located by default? |
| 05:31.25 | shingouz | Navop: mana tar, it is all there |
| 05:31.29 | cjaymes | skon, but that should get you there |
| 05:31.31 | jasonmcox | ok |
| 05:31.37 | shingouz | Navop: man tar, even |
| 05:31.39 | kevix | kakume: /boot/ |
| 05:31.46 | kakume | !grub |
| 05:31.46 | dpkg | i heard grub is [grub] Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader that can boot a lot of OSes, understands a lot of filesystems including reiserfs.. Go here for an excellent step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622, or a distributed internet crawler. |
| 05:32.03 | shingouz | eww |
| 05:32.06 | kaitlyn | Question: What is the debian init.d config utility (like rc-update on Gentoo)? |
| 05:32.29 | \amethyst | kaitlyn: update-rc.d |
| 05:32.45 | \amethyst | kaitlyn: or do you mean a graphical one? |
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| 05:32.57 | cjaymes | there's a graphical one? :) |
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| 05:33.08 | kaitlyn | \amethyst: Nope, no X. ;) |
| 05:33.31 | kevix | kaitlyn: rcconf |
| 05:33.46 | cjaymes | oops, just realized gnutella was on; no wonder apt is taking so long |
| 05:34.17 | \amethyst | kaitlyn: yes, rcconf if you want a curses program |
| 05:34.28 | \amethyst | kaitlyn: update-rc.d is the command-line program underneath |
| 05:35.08 | cjaymes | has apt-spy been replaced? |
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| 05:35.28 | \amethyst | cjaymes: bum is one |
| 05:35.30 | kaitlyn | Thanks, \amethyst and kevix. |
| 05:35.42 | \amethyst | cjaymes: re graphical init.d editors, not apt-spy |
| 05:35.44 | kevix | cjaymes: with apt-wiretap x-) |
| 05:36.47 | nitishp | Is there a Linux equivalent of "script" for FreeBSD? (It's a logger) |
| 05:37.04 | nitishp | I have a feeling someone is screwing with the testing environment I've set up at school and I want to see what it is they are doing to the machine. |
| 05:37.29 | _unstable | nitishp: yea it's called script |
| 05:37.31 | kevix | nitishp: script basically just does > logfile 2>&1 |
| 05:37.53 | bird | is there a way to make windows transparent somewhat (i like my background a lot :) |
| 05:37.59 | kevix | nitishp: and I can't imagine why bsd wouldn't have it. and it can run linux stuff. |
| 05:38.08 | _unstable | nitishp: There are a lot better ways to monitor someone's activity then the "script" command. |
| 05:38.11 | kevix | bird: transset |
| 05:38.25 | nitishp | _unstable: I'm listening. |
| 05:38.32 | bird | oh and what is the command to open a bin file |
| 05:38.52 | nitishp | kevix: BSD *does* have it.. |
| 05:38.53 | \amethyst | nitishp: you might want to look at ttysnoop |
| 05:38.58 | nitishp | \amethyst: Alright, thanks. |
| 05:39.30 | nitishp | Also, is there any reason for a system clock to be so screwed up that it reverts back to an earlier time? |
| 05:39.37 | _unstable | !tell bird about bchunk |
| 05:39.59 | nitishp | Like current date.. after one second.. current date + 1 second.. after three seconds.. current date - 15 seconds.. |
| 05:39.59 | \amethyst | nitishp: what do you mean? |
| 05:40.06 | kevix | bird: what are you actually trying to do... |
| 05:40.07 | \amethyst | nitishp: hm.. |
| 05:40.07 | bird | transset Command not found |
| 05:40.07 | dannyp | nitishp: maybe time is just cyclical? |
| 05:40.08 | _unstable | nitishp: Go to their work station and watch them do it? |
| 05:40.14 | nitishp | dannyp: Yes. |
| 05:40.19 | bird | kevix: install java |
| 05:40.23 | cjaymes | kevix, what is apt-wiretap? |
| 05:40.23 | nitishp | _unstable: I can't, I'm in school during that part of the day. |
| 05:40.23 | kevix | bird: its not a built in command. |
| 05:40.32 | nitishp | (High school not college, so I can't just "cut class") |
| 05:40.40 | _unstable | nitishp: cctv? |
| 05:40.43 | kevix | cjaymes: obscure attempt at humor! |
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| 05:40.55 | cjaymes | kevix, ohhhh |
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| 05:41.00 | nitishp | _unstable: I think a keylogger is a bit easier for me. |
| 05:41.25 | nitishp | I've asked the teacher to keep a closer eye on that area of the class.. but to no avail. |
| 05:41.35 | _unstable | nitishp: But finding out what they did isn't nearly as good as finding out who did it. |
| 05:41.44 | nitishp | _unstable: True. |
| 05:41.47 | _unstable | nitishp: Besides, they can just type "exit" to turn off the script command. |
| 05:42.02 | nitishp | _unstable: Also true. |
| 05:42.05 | kevix | bird: part of the new Xorg includes a command to set the transparency of windows. go to x.org or freedesktop.org for more info |
| 05:42.27 | nitishp | _unstable: But what about my second question? |
| 05:42.30 | cjaymes | hmm, ok I think I've given up on apt-spy |
| 05:42.35 | nitishp | _unstable: The machine gives weird times. |
| 05:42.36 | cjaymes | I think it's broken |
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| 05:42.44 | \amethyst | nitishp: put a webcam on the computer... have it take a picture whenever someone logs in |
| 05:42.45 | _unstable | nitishp: apt-get install lkl |
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| 05:42.55 | \amethyst | nitishp: or do you think people are getting in remotely? |
| 05:43.03 | nitishp | \amethyst: Definitely physical access. |
| 05:43.07 | cjaymes | ooo, I could check the stable version |
| 05:43.09 | nitishp | Someone is messing with the machine directly. |
| 05:43.12 | \amethyst | nitishp: webcams are cheap :) |
| 05:43.14 | nitishp | Like hard shutting it down. |
| 05:43.31 | _unstable | nitishp: Or install something like tripwire, which will tell you exactly what files change and when. |
| 05:43.31 | kevix | nitishp: so check the log in /var/log for login and root access |
| 05:43.31 | \amethyst | nitishp: oh, is ctrl-alt-delete enabled? |
| 05:43.35 | _unstable | nitishp: Then you can just take away permissions on said file |
| 05:43.45 | Navop | k extracted all the files from tar file, how do i install it now, tried intall, setup and nothing works |
| 05:43.47 | nitishp | _unstable: tripwire? I'll look into that as well. |
| 05:43.53 | nitishp | Thanks a lot for the input everyone :) |
| 05:44.03 | _unstable | nitishp: Or just let them tinker, the point of debian is to be open, especially to someone with physical access, people are supposed to tinker. |
| 05:44.05 | \amethyst | nitishp: as for the time question, I have no idea |
| 05:44.11 | _unstable | nitishp: If you don't want people to touch your shit, don't make it a public lab. |
| 05:44.13 | \amethyst | nitishp: are you using ntp? |
| 05:44.27 | nitishp | _unstable: Well, this is eventually going to be something that everyone *can* use. |
| 05:44.50 | nitishp | It's running Ubuntu Linux and will be fully functional soon with Windows shares mounted, etc etc. |
| 05:45.09 | nitishp | \amethyst: ntp makes no difference, the time still fubar's after a few seconds. |
| 05:45.13 | kevix | nitishp: check the .bash_history |
| 05:45.14 | nitishp | It just freezes to a four second pane. |
| 05:45.21 | nitishp | kevix: It's overwritten. |
| 05:45.31 | \amethyst | nitishp: what does /etc/adjtime say? |
| 05:45.58 | nitishp | I don't have access to the machine just now, but I'll be going back to school (in my vacation time -_-) to check up on the machine, thought I'd prep before going there. |
| 05:46.02 | bird | BAH!` is there an easier way to install java? |
| 05:46.11 | Navop | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.17 | \amethyst | bird: easier way than what? |
| 05:46.18 | dannyp | you could make sure you're only enabling use shells that log to a ~/.history, and set the sappend flag on the user's ~/.history |
| 05:46.29 | dannyp | err. that's a BSD solution, this is #debian. sorry, I get mixed up sometimes |
| 05:46.40 | nitishp | dannyp: .history is csh specific I believe. |
| 05:46.44 | nitishp | The default is bash. |
| 05:46.59 | dannyp | nitishp: that was a hypothetical filename |
| 05:47.10 | kevix | bird: apt-cache show java-package |
| 05:47.20 | bird | downloading java, downloading bchunk, figuring out how bchunk works |
| 05:47.21 | dannyp | ~/.bash_history then |
| 05:47.42 | bird | ok |
| 05:48.05 | kevix | bird: what are you trying to do? |
| 05:48.10 | nitishp | pam_krb5 ends up failing because the clockskew between the computer and the kdc becomes to large :\ |
| 05:48.17 | \amethyst | bird: bchunk? |
| 05:48.21 | bird | install java |
| 05:48.26 | nitishp | I've set the clockskew relatively high, but still.. it shouldn't happen.. |
| 05:48.39 | nitishp | The computers are pretty new, the IT administrator at school purchased them over the summer. |
| 05:48.40 | bird | bchunk claims to be able to go from *.bin to something more useful |
| 05:48.45 | nitishp | So it's not like the CMOS clocks died.. right? |
| 05:48.45 | ice_1963 | is BSD jest as easy to install as Debain |
| 05:48.45 | \amethyst | nitishp: are you sure you're not pwned? |
| 05:48.47 | kevix | bird: there are geat sites to install java on debian. use google! |
| 05:48.52 | nitishp | \amethyst: ? |
| 05:48.59 | \amethyst | nitishp: CMOS clockshouldn't matter at runtime |
| 05:49.05 | bird | apt-cache show java-package returns E: no packages found |
| 05:49.15 | bird | Kevix: the hunt begins! |
| 05:49.22 | nitishp | \amethyst: Hrm, true. |
| 05:49.31 | kevix | ice_1963: there is Debian GNU/linux and Debian Gnu/kFreebsd ! |
| 05:49.40 | \amethyst | nitishp: even a bad oscillator shouldn't make it go nonmonotonic |
| 05:50.05 | cjaymes | ah-ha! netselect-apt |
| 05:50.08 | \amethyst | nitishp: so it sounds like something is changing the time |
| 05:50.21 | ice_1963 | hmmm |
| 05:50.24 | \amethyst | nitishp: but I have no idea what unless NTP is running and seriously broken |
| 05:50.27 | nitishp | \amethyst: I rebooted it a few hours ago (I reverse SSH'd into the computer for a while, but I've been without the connection for a good 5 hours now) |
| 05:50.37 | jasonmcox | can debian teach me message therapy? |
| 05:50.56 | jasonmcox | just joking =) |
| 05:51.04 | kevix | jasonmcox: that requires an expensive upgrade! |
| 05:51.10 | bird | I still am getting errors with the apt-get install java-package |
| 05:51.24 | jasonmcox | kevix: ok i sent off my printing problem to the debian-users list |
| 05:51.52 | jasonmcox | is anyone ready for issue 2of3 |
| 05:51.53 | kevix | jasonmcox: they should be able to help. I havent had a printer in a while! x-) |
| 05:52.16 | kevix | jasonmcox: just ask! |
| 05:52.22 | jasonmcox | ok |
| 05:52.24 | _unstable | !tell jasonmcox about ask |
| 05:52.38 | cjaymes | 10 of 11 :) |
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| 05:52.55 | bird | i have millorat (err however it is spelt) do i need more modifying of sources.list to get java-package? |
| 05:52.57 | kevix | cjaymes: 7 of 9! |
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| 05:53.06 | cjaymes | mmm, 7 of 9 |
| 05:53.17 | \amethyst | Illinois Republicans! |
| 05:53.38 | cjaymes | mmm...mmmm? |
| 05:53.59 | kevix | bird: google will find you much better help! |
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| 05:54.19 | kevix | cjaymes: donutsssss! |
| 05:54.25 | cjaymes | grrr |
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| 05:54.43 | cjaymes | "netselect was unable to find a mirror, this probably means that you are behind a firewall and it is blocking traceroute." |
| 05:54.52 | shingouz | bird: trying to install java? /msg dpkg java-package |
| 05:55.16 | jasonmcox | I am using sarge 3.1 and I insert my flash card into my usb multi-flash card reader but it does not show up under devices as the hard discfloppy and cdrom do. |
| 05:55.18 | kevix | cjaymes: are you trying to fix you /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 05:55.33 | cjaymes | kevix, no, just make it faster |
| 05:55.34 | shingouz | jasonmcox: modprobe usb-storage |
| 05:55.48 | bird | this was mt problem: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free |
| 05:56.19 | kevix | jasonmcox: after you do what shingouz said, check /var/log/messages for some hints! |
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| 05:56.54 | jasonmcox | shingouz: when i run that command i get nothing just a blank prompt |
| 05:57.06 | kevix | jasonmcox: that is good. |
| 05:57.15 | cjaymes | woah |
| 05:57.20 | jasonmcox | yes! |
| 05:57.21 | shingouz | jasonmcox: lsmod | grep usb-storage |
| 05:57.26 | kevix | jasonmcox: the unix philosphy is to only report ERRORS, not success. |
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| 05:57.44 | cjaymes | because success is so rare? |
| 05:58.01 | jasonmcox | that sounds like negative reinforceent |
| 05:58.12 | cjaymes | or so common |
| 05:58.15 | shingouz | cjaymes: no, because unix just works, it does not have to report it worked like another so-called o/s |
| 05:58.20 | jasonmcox | i noticed thats how they teach at black schools |
| 05:58.21 | Fare | the unix philosophy is hogwash |
| 05:58.48 | kevix | Fare: so dont use unix ! |
| 05:58.56 | jasonmcox | so what is a modprobe |
| 05:59.04 | shingouz | jasonmcox: man modprobe |
| 05:59.13 | jasonmcox | i want u 2 teach me 2 fish not just give me the fish |
| 05:59.17 | kevix | jasonmcox: do you know what a kernel modules is? |
| 05:59.19 | Fare | kevix: there's not much choice, is it? |
| 05:59.24 | shingouz | jasonmcox: it installs modules for you... a nice tool |
| 05:59.35 | cjaymes | shingouz, true...but perhaps it could help one get it to work a bit more |
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| 05:59.55 | jasonmcox | ok |
| 06:00.07 | jasonmcox | so that checked to see if i had usb support installed? |
| 06:00.08 | Fare | kevix: do you like your government? no? why don't you emigrate? |
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| 06:00.15 | kevix | Fare: if bsd,unix,linux do things the unix way and you do not want to follow that, what choice is there. |
| 06:00.32 | shingouz | jasonmcox: lsmod | grep usb-storage checked it |
| 06:00.52 | shingouz | Fare: an abacus? |
| 06:00.54 | kevix | Fare: I still like the foundation of the govenment. |
| 06:01.07 | jasonmcox | hold on what did modprobe do |
| 06:01.07 | Fare | kevix: which is? |
| 06:01.14 | peterS | limestone. |
| 06:01.23 | shingouz | jasonmcox: install the module you wanted |
| 06:01.39 | Fare | I don't, but I stay here because it's less bad than in other places |
| 06:01.43 | _unstable | jasonmcox: added a module to the kernel |
| 06:01.51 | kevix | Fare: the bill of rights and the constition. unix has its base, too. |
| 06:01.51 | Fare | Actually, I migrated to here! |
| 06:01.56 | _unstable | !tell jasonmcox about modprobe |
| 06:02.18 | cjaymes | Fare, you're a migrant? |
| 06:02.18 | Fare | unix is a heap of undigestible code |
| 06:02.23 | jasonmcox | i see so if it reported nothing it was already there? |
| 06:02.26 | Fare | cjaymes: so am I. |
| 06:02.36 | cjaymes | hmm |
| 06:02.46 | kevix | Fare: ok linus, start a new better project1 |
| 06:02.56 | Fare | kevix: done, long ago :) |
| 06:02.58 | shingouz | jasonmcox: if modprobe reported nothing, it installed the module with no errors |
| 06:03.08 | kevix | Fare: what's it called? |
| 06:03.19 | cjaymes | Fare, ever look at hurd? |
| 06:03.21 | kevix | Fare: hurd? |
| 06:03.33 | jasonmcox | i see just a question so if modprobe found that the modual was already installed would it alert me? |
| 06:03.33 | Fare | haha, rotfl |
| 06:03.37 | kevix | Fare: SCO! |
| 06:03.51 | Fare | turd is a bunch of crap based on a stupid idea |
| 06:03.53 | shingouz | jasonmcox: no it would not afaik |
| 06:04.10 | shingouz | someone crack open the trollfodder.... |
| 06:04.16 | Fare | tunes.org |
| 06:04.17 | jasonmcox | shingouz: afaik? |
| 06:04.24 | shingouz | as far as i know |
| 06:04.33 | cjaymes | that wasn't even good trollfodder |
| 06:04.43 | Fare | tunes.org/wiki/Microkernels <-- about HURD and similar projects |
| 06:04.47 | jasonmcox | i see |
| 06:04.52 | kevix | jasonmcox: you check by using 'lsmod' |
| 06:05.02 | jasonmcox | ok i run that lsmod |
| 06:05.04 | jasonmcox | now what |
| 06:05.04 | shingouz | cjaymes: true, but afaik is not exactly trollfodder :p |
| 06:05.27 | kevix | jasonmcox: check the last lines on /var/log/messages to see any hints. |
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| 06:05.54 | cjaymes | shingouz, no, I mean dissing hurd in a linux channel; most of us don't care |
| 06:06.07 | shingouz | cjaymes: hehe.. that is true |
| 06:06.15 | cjaymes | shingouz, unless you were talking about something else... :) |
| 06:06.25 | \amethyst | maybe I should try opengenera |
| 06:06.52 | jasonmcox | brb |
| 06:06.55 | kevix | cjaymes: actually this is #debian and we have Gnu/linux Gnu/hurd and Gnu/kfreebsd |
| 06:06.57 | Fare | amethyst: you'd need an Alpha, first |
| 06:06.57 | Scott31337 | I haven't used Linux since 99,, Redhat and Slackware.. getting a new computer in a couple days... Debian a good choice? :) |
| 06:07.01 | \amethyst | yup |
| 06:07.11 | cjaymes | kevix, oops |
| 06:07.28 | Fare | Scott31337, I migrated to debian, and if you have enough RAM, it's good |
| 06:07.31 | shingouz | cjaymes: i was referring to the hurd conversation. fortunately i am a little too tired to sit here for hours on end right now so i can soon leave you guys to fight it out for yourselves ;) |
| 06:07.33 | \amethyst | Fare: is the idea for a tunes HLL closer to ML or Modula-3? |
| 06:07.42 | kevix | Scott31337: yes. but were biased |
| 06:07.58 | Scott31337 | kev: the ubuntu people said the same thing :) *grins* |
| 06:08.00 | bird | how do i do something as fakeroot? |
| 06:08.07 | Fare | I'd say closer to Lisp with optional ML-like typesystems |
| 06:08.15 | cjaymes | heh |
| 06:08.16 | \amethyst | ...or prolog... |
| 06:08.17 | shingouz | Scott31337: and if you have a little patience when installing, you can make debian run on pretty much anything, you do not need a crapload of ram |
| 06:08.41 | elnovatillo | any 3d engine , packed at debian? |
| 06:08.42 | Scott31337 | its gotta be better then back in the day.. I hope |
| 06:08.45 | Fare | well, in Lisp, you can build-your-own-prolog-inside-the-language (Screamer) |
| 06:08.49 | cjaymes | I had a hard time the other day; I was training folx in an inner-city school dist. & one of them was raving about ubuntu |
| 06:08.50 | Scott31337 | all text based install |
| 06:08.51 | shingouz | Scott31337: it is |
| 06:08.51 | \amethyst | yes |
| 06:08.56 | Fare | try that in any othre language! |
| 06:08.59 | ice_1963 | java |
| 06:09.03 | \amethyst | and in Prolog you can build-your-own-lisp-inside-the-language :) |
| 06:09.12 | Fare | amethyst: not really |
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| 06:09.31 | Fare | in Prolog, you can *interpret* lisp. In lisp, you can *compile* prolog. |
| 06:09.33 | jasonmcox | i see nothing in messages that means anything too me |
| 06:09.34 | shingouz | Scott31337: text based install is good, takes less ram to install. the blingbling is something other distros take care of |
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| 06:09.37 | cjaymes | as much as I hate splintering projects, I had to side with him because he was espousing linux on their old 'puters |
| 06:09.50 | Scott31337 | true.. I didnt have much of prob with it... |
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| 06:10.32 | kevix | Scott31337: we have an alpha version of a gui install, but the text based one is rock solid tested. |
| 06:10.42 | Fare | Scott31337, for low-RAM machine, I'd disrecommend debian which has really crappy "database" management as huge text files to read in memory |
| 06:10.43 | shingouz | Scott31337: check the install manual and just install debian :) |
| 06:10.47 | cjaymes | apparently ubuntu has its own forks though |
| 06:11.02 | elnovatillo | !codec wm9 |
| 06:11.09 | jasonmcox | shingouz: i ran that lsmod and got some stuff what do iu do with it |
| 06:11.16 | shingouz | Fare: when was the last time you installed debian on something with less than 512MB of ram |
| 06:11.22 | elnovatillo | what is the name of the codec for wmv ? |
| 06:11.25 | shingouz | jasonmcox: man mount |
| 06:11.29 | Scott31337 | well it'll be a new comp so the ram thing should be okay |
| 06:11.32 | Fare | shingouz: a few months ago, on a PDA |
| 06:11.41 | jasonmcox | brb |
| 06:11.53 | Fare | shingouz: ultimately, I used qemu to cross-install most of it from a PC |
| 06:12.01 | cjaymes | elnovatillo, for what program? |
| 06:12.02 | shingouz | Fare: a chroot install does the trick nicely |
| 06:12.15 | Fare | shingouz: yup, qemu in a chroot |
| 06:12.16 | elnovatillo | cjaymes: for totem |
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| 06:12.22 | cjaymes | elnovatillo, wmv is actually a container file format, so it doesn't really tell us what codec |
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| 06:12.36 | kevix | shingouz: I have a 166mhz laptop with 32MB ram. it runs sarge! |
| 06:12.42 | shingouz | Fare: debootstrap and chroot |
| 06:12.45 | Fare | though qemu couldn't handle everything |
| 06:12.46 | ice_1963 | bird: why do want fakeroot for? |
| 06:12.53 | Fare | shingouz: and qemu |
| 06:13.03 | cjaymes | elnovatillo, I just copied my win32 codecs from mplayer into the totem plugins dir, if I remember right |
| 06:13.13 | cjaymes | or, you could just use mplayer |
| 06:13.28 | shingouz | kevix: 486dx and 40M ram with sid |
| 06:13.30 | kevix | jasonmcox: lsmod lists what kernel modules you have installed. |
| 06:13.45 | bird | icw: I will paste the command (it is a steep in installing java) |
| 06:13.48 | kevix | shingouz: OK! I give up! |
| 06:14.06 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 06:14.18 | elnovatillo | cjaymes: there is no mplayer in etch :( |
| 06:14.33 | bird | download the sun jdk from java.sun.com Execute the next step as a normal user using fakeroot: |
| 06:14.33 | shingouz | kevix: already? i did not mention the IBM L40SX with a 386 and math copro and 10MB of ram running sid... |
| 06:14.33 | bird | $ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
| 06:14.41 | Fare | sa1100 @ 190MHz 32MB with sid |
| 06:14.42 | cjaymes | elnovatillo, use the marillat source; search mplayer on apt-get.org |
| 06:14.48 | kevix | elnovatillo: its not DFSG free! |
| 06:15.11 | kevix | shingouz: do you have a watch runing sid! |
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| 06:15.27 | shingouz | kevix: um. no, not yet |
| 06:15.32 | Fare | couldn't install without a lot of swap, and still took hours. qemu+chroot+debootstrap saved the day. Took a finite number of hours. |
| 06:15.50 | ice_1963 | bird: here you go www.debian-administration.org/articles/142 |
| 06:15.59 | cjaymes | does the freebie java stuff actually work well? |
| 06:16.08 | jasonmcox | shingouz: ok this is pages and pages of info do you know what the command is |
| 06:16.12 | cjaymes | or should I not bother with it & get blackdown jdk? |
| 06:16.32 | foo | Any ideas on this error? /dev/psaux doesn't exist ... or so it says. All I did was install gnome-desktop ... eh. http://notix.ath.cx:81/temp/startxerr.txt |
| 06:16.33 | Fare | bird: does make-jpkg help you skip the step where you agree to the license? |
| 06:16.33 | fooz | cjaymes, what are you doing with it? |
| 06:16.49 | Fare | then you can run the software without having to agree to their terms |
| 06:16.57 | shingouz | jasonmcox: something along the lines of "mount -t vfat /dev/sd?? /your/desided/mountpoint" |
| 06:17.00 | cjaymes | fooz, various; most important is runescape.com, followed by jedit for work |
| 06:17.03 | cjaymes | :) |
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| 06:17.16 | fooz | ah. dunno about jedit.. is it debbed? |
| 06:17.27 | cjaymes | yes |
| 06:17.29 | kevix | jasonmcox: here is a way: open a terminal: type: tail -f /var/log/messages then pull out the usb key then put it back in. see what messages you see. |
| 06:17.31 | fooz | i don't see it. |
| 06:17.41 | cjaymes | fooz, on sf |
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| 06:17.50 | Fare | what could prevent modules from being insmoded? |
| 06:17.55 | fooz | runescape a java game? |
| 06:18.00 | cjaymes | fooz, yep |
| 06:18.05 | fooz | omg, i never knew that.. funky |
| 06:18.11 | Fare | does anyone here use dm-crypt? loop-aes? |
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| 06:18.14 | cjaymes | fooz, with blackdown, it kills my processor |
| 06:18.16 | kevix | Fare: blacklisted? |
| 06:18.26 | fooz | well, what 3D API does it use? (does it use one?) |
| 06:18.31 | fooz | also, why not try the sun JDK? |
| 06:18.37 | Fare | the loop-aes people say it's more secure -- against what kind of attacks? |
| 06:19.01 | jasonmcox | how do i exit the man page |
| 06:19.13 | shingouz | jasonmcox: q |
| 06:19.18 | mfeinstein | Hi I am hoping that someone in here can help me. I am trying to install debian on my computer using expert26 and it can not configure my SATA hard drive. |
| 06:19.20 | konfuzed | or ctrl-d |
| 06:19.24 | cjaymes | fooz, I'm not sure on that; I tried the sun jdk, I quickly switched back |
| 06:19.37 | mfeinstein | Anyone know how I can fix this? |
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| 06:19.58 | konfuzed | !sata |
| 06:19.58 | dpkg | Ideally you want Jeff Garzik's libata patch against 2.4.x. See http://lwn.net/Articles/52488/ . For a netinst w/libata, see http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ to make one with a custom kernel, or http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html for more options. ("You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs."), or use a 2.6 kernel for less pain, or you must enable CONFIG_SATA and your SATA driver for this to work |
| 06:20.06 | fooz | cjaymes, anyway, i'm kinda new to Java, but the "freebie stuff" (GCJ) seems to be solid in everything but AWT and Swing. It can run Eclipse, and if you precompile Eclipse using GCJ, it's very very fast |
| 06:20.15 | fooz | cjaymes, Eclipse uses no AWT or Swing, though.. |
| 06:20.29 | fooz | all bets are off when AWT is involved, and it's not scheduled to get much better until GCC 4.1 |
| 06:21.24 | cjaymes | fooz, runescape would probably be happier; but jedit is a swinger |
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| 06:21.34 | cjaymes | so, blackdown it is |
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| 06:22.11 | fooz | hmm, runescape's a Java applet? that makes things harder.. |
| 06:22.16 | cjaymes | yes |
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| 06:22.29 | cjaymes | I think they did their own 3d engine though |
| 06:22.36 | fooz | let's watch it crash firefox :D |
| 06:22.50 | cjaymes | I can't really tell, and I don't feel like reverse engineering it |
| 06:22.51 | shingouz | about time for me to do something sensible |
| 06:23.17 | elnovatillo | cjaymes: i just added marillat at sources.list, is it fiine? |
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| 06:24.22 | cjaymes | elnovatillo, if you wish to use mplayer to view movies; totem may or may not use the codecs in the w32codecs package |
| 06:24.29 | jasonmcox | ok guys |
| 06:24.57 | elnovatillo | mplayer > totem ? |
| 06:25.03 | cjaymes | elnovatillo, I'm leaning toward totem finding the codecs, but I don't remember |
| 06:25.04 | jasonmcox | i tried what kevix said but it does nothing when i insert the flash card into my multiflash usb card reader |
| 06:25.16 | cjaymes | elnovatillo, I like it better, ymmv |
| 06:25.23 | jasonmcox | i see that it detects somethings in that file when i insert a usb thumb drive |
| 06:25.33 | jasonmcox | but my concern at the moment is not the thumb drive |
| 06:26.03 | fooz | gcjwebplugin tends to crash firefox if used twice |
| 06:26.08 | fooz | and i got no picture from the game.. so. |
| 06:26.20 | jasonmcox | i am trying to get the CF card from my camera to mount from my usb card reader |
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| 06:26.22 | mfeinstein | konfuzed I am using the 2.6 kernal but I dont see my SATA drive in it (I am using the intel chipset) any ideas on how I can fix it? |
| 06:27.15 | konfuzed | mfeinstein: get more fammiliar with SATA in Etch |
| 06:27.16 | aidan | how can I chroot a user on login? |
| 06:27.32 | jasonmcox | shingouz: so how do i tell it what to mount |
| 06:27.43 | konfuzed | aidan: vsftpd does that very nicely |
| 06:27.53 | mfeinstein | konfuzed any chance you can point me in the right direction? Like a link or something? |
| 06:28.05 | konfuzed | !etch |
| 06:28.05 | dpkg | etch is, like, the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 06:29.28 | konfuzed | mfeinstein: if you actually read the links from !sata and !etch then you already are more familiar with it than I am |
| 06:30.02 | cjaymes | I don't even know what sata is :) |
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| 06:30.15 | jasonmcox | shingouz: what is /sd?? in the command representing |
| 06:30.47 | konfuzed | cjaymes: thats ok, apparently it is not really relevant under debian until etch is released |
| 06:31.57 | konfuzed | although I dont think its possible to buy a current mothernoard line that doesnt include sata |
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| 06:32.49 | bucky | konfuzed, which boards don't have fake raid? |
| 06:33.11 | konfuzed | that said, in all fairness, yes plenty of persistent people and some just lucky people have SATA running on debian as i type |
| 06:33.40 | konfuzed | bucky: I cant guarantee about quality of raid but raid is not truly required |
| 06:33.57 | konfuzed | no doubt ASUS doesnt lie about the raid that is on their motherboards |
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| 06:34.10 | konfuzed | I doubt MSI lies about it either |
| 06:34.26 | konfuzed | I odubt tyan or intel lie about it either |
| 06:34.58 | konfuzed | that said I havent recently verified that version of raid on any of the above baords |
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| 06:35.32 | jasonmcox | i am getting mount point does not exist |
| 06:35.44 | jasonmcox | with the command shingouz todl me |
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| 06:36.27 | konfuzed | for raid it is likely better to get an SLI-card RAID controller for SATA than onboard lightweight raid chipsets |
| 06:36.39 | djs_2_6 | Hey guys, how do I upgrade to the newest firefox? |
| 06:36.52 | konfuzed | no doubt there is more solid driver support and actually quality performance |
| 06:36.58 | engineerdat | anyone know of a program that can convert wmv, asf, avi etc to mpeg? for etch? |
| 06:37.08 | jasonmcox | djs_2_6: apt-get upgrade mozilla-firefox |
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| 06:37.38 | djs_2_6 | jasonmcox - That only gives me 1.0.7 |
| 06:37.55 | konfuzed | jasonmcox: can you ls -l the mount point ? |
| 06:37.57 | jasonmcox | djs_2_6: or download the package from packages.debian.org and dpkg -i mozilla-firefox_newversion.deb |
| 06:38.43 | Skiver | hi there, I have a sony vaio laptop with me(30G blank hdd), no cd-rom, floppy. Only one RJ45 port, i'm looking for a way to boot this laptop via network, can someone suggest where to start ? I have one debian box available(networked) |
| 06:38.44 | chealer9 | djs_2_6: which release do you use? |
| 06:39.28 | konfuzed | jasonmcox: if not you need to mkdir /mount/point/name |
| 06:40.11 | djs_2_6 | chealer9 - I use Ubuntu, which is debian based... |
| 06:40.25 | ice_1963 | my firefox is konqueror :0) |
| 06:40.27 | elnovatillo | what is the path for fonts? |
| 06:40.27 | foo | http://notix.ath.cx:81/temp/startxerr.txt - I am getting these errors when I startx. Any ideas? |
| 06:40.31 | bird | I got java up and working w/real player Thank you all very much. I will make sure to pass on the knowlege if I get asked |
| 06:40.34 | chealer9 | djs_2_6: this is a Debian support channel. try asking #Ubuntu |
| 06:40.35 | jasonmcox | konfuzed: ok |
| 06:41.06 | djs_2_6 | chealer9 - They are not very helpful, and I know that the two are similar enough for me to figure it out from here... |
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| 06:41.19 | konfuzed | bird: perhaps you can do up a tutorial walkthrough page |
| 06:41.20 | elnovatillo | !fonts |
| 06:41.20 | dpkg | somebody said fonts was check http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ for general info, ask me about <font guide>, or http://www.kegel.com/linux/tt.html and http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-02/guru_01.html or http://linuxgazette.net/issue96/adam.html, or http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt |
| 06:41.39 | elnovatillo | !font guide |
| 06:41.40 | dpkg | i guess font guide is bob2's Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused: http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt |
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| 06:42.03 | konfuzed | oh i better check that one out |
| 06:42.07 | fooz | cjaymes, runescape works in Sun JDK's plugin |
| 06:42.08 | jasonmcox | konfuzed: i get mount: special device /dev/sd1 does not exist |
| 06:42.18 | fooz | sick. i may have to start playing this |
| 06:42.20 | fooz | hehe |
| 06:42.37 | chealer9 | djs_2_6: will, as long as you don't expect any helpful answer from here, you can try to figure it out |
| 06:42.40 | konfuzed | jasonmcox: hmm what about ls -l /dev/sd1 |
| 06:43.01 | djs_2_6 | chealer9 - Why so rude? Ubuntu is built from Debian... |
| 06:43.12 | LinuxNIT | whats the command to move a file in ftp command line? |
| 06:43.13 | konfuzed | although it probably wasnt created properly from what was no doubt supposed to be a script that automated that for you |
| 06:43.14 | jasonmcox | no such.. |
| 06:43.34 | chealer9 | djs_2_6: you're saying I'm being rude? |
| 06:43.36 | konfuzed | whats the isntaller |
| 06:43.39 | jasonmcox | how do i find my CF card connected too my usb flash card reader |
| 06:43.52 | konfuzed | hm |
| 06:43.57 | djs_2_6 | chealer9 - "as long as you don't expect any helpful answer from here"?? |
| 06:44.31 | konfuzed | i think not all CF devices created equal, I just had a look recently at CF support for a project im poking around with |
| 06:44.43 | chealer9 | djs_2_6: this is a Debian support channel. people know Debian. if they would use Ubuntu, they would probably be in #ubuntu |
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| 06:44.47 | omi | Hello, is it possible to setup postfix to do mail relaying if the user signs onto SMTP server, but still accept mail as usual to local accounts from all sources? |
| 06:44.50 | jasonmcox | so im not going to get it? |
| 06:45.37 | jasonmcox | ok what about a usb thumb drive i mean wheni put it in i do at least get a message in the messages file |
| 06:46.01 | konfuzed | jasonmcox: if you open konquerer and go to storage media and its not listed there then it did not setup properly |
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| 06:46.41 | konfuzed | some do head called me over to his place and asked me to check out why his usb camera wouldnt come up, he just wanted to copy the pictures off |
| 06:47.15 | konfuzed | very first timer though good on him for trying to install it himself before calling me over ;^) |
| 06:47.27 | jasonmcox | konfuzed: so i open conquerer but i do not see a link too storage media |
| 06:47.44 | konfuzed | so there it is all sitting he tells me how he went through the installer and we just cant bring it up |
| 06:47.56 | konfuzed | good thing I said hmmm is the power even on |
| 06:48.03 | konfuzed | pressed the button |
| 06:48.05 | konfuzed | presto |
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| 06:48.22 | jasonmcox | well i know the power is on |
| 06:48.25 | zebalin7 | I upgraded etch and now FireFox bombs with: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden |
| 06:48.28 | jasonmcox | its powered through usb |
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| 06:48.28 | konfuzed | konquerer now shows the removable usb drive. |
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| 06:48.46 | engineerdat | i like that...presto...i think ill use that next time i fix something |
| 06:48.55 | konfuzed | the thing auto powered off on the guy |
| 06:48.56 | konfuzed | but still |
| 06:49.11 | konfuzed | usb devices are notably finicky about installation procedures |
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| 06:49.31 | zebalin7 | Would could be wrong with: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2 and FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden |
| 06:49.32 | Xzoriann | hi |
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| 06:49.40 | konfuzed | some insist on the power on before install and some insist on do not plug it in until after the software install |
| 06:49.53 | Brumac | Hejsa alle |
| 06:50.12 | engineerdat | de? |
| 06:50.15 | jasonmcox | someoene needs to come over here and Presto-chango my usb devices |
| 06:50.22 | konfuzed | sure man |
| 06:50.32 | konfuzed | i get a thrilll out og laying on hands |
| 06:50.43 | konfuzed | the box that is |
| 06:50.45 | engineerdat | !de |
| 06:50.45 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 06:50.58 | Brumac | I am American |
| 06:51.08 | engineerdat | what is hejsa alle? |
| 06:51.09 | jasonmcox | yeah give my box a priesthood blessing |
| 06:51.23 | Brumac | anyway..hello all I am somewhat a n00b to debian |
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| 06:51.37 | kryptoz | hey room ! |
| 06:51.37 | Brumac | I have installed it to several boxes and tweaked etc... |
| 06:52.00 | Brumac | Hejsa alle, means Hello All |
| 06:52.03 | jasonmcox | cant someone give me some phone support |
| 06:52.06 | Brumac | in danish |
| 06:52.12 | engineerdat | ah |
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| 06:52.35 | konfuzed | jasonmcox: well i do have this voip thingy sitting here |
| 06:52.49 | jasonmcox | how do i call it |
| 06:52.54 | Brumac | I have a teamspeak server on my first debian install |
| 06:52.58 | Brumac | still up too |
| 06:53.07 | konfuzed | but it sounds a bit over board for phone support |
| 06:53.24 | jasonmcox | i have a cell phone |
| 06:53.30 | Brumac | lol |
| 06:53.34 | Brumac | whats the prob jason? |
| 06:53.40 | kryptoz | lol |
| 06:53.43 | konfuzed | jasonmcox: whats the model of this CF card |
| 06:53.52 | jasonmcox | crucial |
| 06:53.58 | jasonmcox | and the card reader i do not know |
| 06:54.16 | aidan | why does visudo use nano? |
| 06:54.25 | jasonmcox | i think its an hop |
| 06:54.27 | konfuzed | jasonmcox: Perhaps you can call ontario during waking hours |
| 06:54.27 | jasonmcox | hp |
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| 06:54.36 | jasonmcox | ontario? |
| 06:55.06 | jasonmcox | what about this usb thumb drive |
| 06:55.14 | jasonmcox | my problem is i dont know how to mount it |
| 06:55.26 | jasonmcox | the usb drive i am sure would work if i kneww how to mount it |
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| 06:56.00 | kryptoz | hey jasonmcox maybe u can tail the /var/log/messages and plug in the usb device |
| 06:56.01 | ice_1963 | ontario hay neighbor |
| 06:56.10 | kryptoz | it will show somethng which might be useful |
| 06:56.26 | jasonmcox | kryptoz: i did that tail and with the CF nothing the usb thumb gets some stuff but i dont know what iut means |
| 06:56.27 | konfuzed | jasonmcox: tail -f /var/log/messages & |
| 06:56.27 | kryptoz | it will detect as a scsi device |
| 06:56.58 | jasonmcox | ok very well but how do i mount it |
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| 06:57.32 | konfuzed | ice_1963: ICE, you must be from Winterpeg Manisnowba |
| 06:57.36 | kryptoz | it might show the device |
| 06:57.49 | kryptoz | do u have any other scsi or sata device in ur machine ? |
| 06:57.52 | jasonmcox | kryptoz: it does but how do i use it now |
| 06:58.11 | ice_1963 | nope michigan lol |
| 06:58.12 | kryptoz | well mount /dev/sda* /mnt/myusb |
| 06:58.23 | kryptoz | then use it ... i duno .. how to use it that up to u isn't it ? |
| 06:58.25 | konfuzed | jasonmcox: there should be a highlevel of automation to this and it shows up under konquerer |
| 06:59.34 | kryptoz | jasonmcox, what is it that you want to do with this usb thingy ? want to copy some files from it ? to it? read the contents ? blank it ? |
| 07:00.01 | jasonmcox | it doesnt show up |
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| 07:00.09 | jasonmcox | i guess the automation is broke |
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| 07:00.12 | kryptoz | so u mounted it ? |
| 07:00.14 | jasonmcox | where do i look for ikt |
| 07:00.18 | kryptoz | and it didn't show any err ? |
| 07:00.21 | jasonmcox | no |
| 07:00.25 | jasonmcox | let me try and mount it |
| 07:00.27 | konfuzed | jasonmcox: you must be more specific, it doesnt show up where |
| 07:00.32 | kryptoz | then why don't u try to mount it first ? |
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| 07:00.34 | jasonmcox | but what is the * |
| 07:00.36 | konfuzed | konqurere |
| 07:00.37 | heyu | hey |
| 07:00.37 | jasonmcox | sda* |
| 07:00.41 | kryptoz | i dunooooo |
| 07:00.42 | jasonmcox | how do i know what to put |
| 07:00.55 | kryptoz | thats why i asked u tail ur /var/log/message |
| 07:00.56 | zebalin7 | I upgraded etch and now FireFox bombs with: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden |
| 07:00.58 | konfuzed | shift 8 is regex for anything |
| 07:01.14 | jasonmcox | i see |
| 07:01.24 | jasonmcox | let me tail |
| 07:01.41 | konfuzed | jasonmcox: tail -f /var/log/messages & |
| 07:01.43 | kryptoz | in one console enter this "tail -f /var/log/message" and then u remove the usb and put it back in |
| 07:01.47 | zebalin7 | So frustrated with this. Never again. back to ubuntu. |
| 07:01.53 | kryptoz | u will see something in the tail output ... |
| 07:01.59 | kryptoz | heyyyyyyy |
| 07:02.07 | kryptoz | i came here to ask one thing ... |
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| 07:02.15 | kryptoz | what u debian guys think about ubuntu ? |
| 07:02.29 | Coweater | !ubuntu |
| 07:02.29 | dpkg | i heard ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian.. |
| 07:02.40 | kryptoz | i installed it and i didn't feel gud about it .. so i removed it and went back to slack |
| 07:02.41 | konfuzed | zebalin7: you shouldnot be using a testing branch for your install if you actually NEED it be stable |
| 07:03.06 | kryptoz | well but the general talk was that it debian based |
| 07:03.11 | kryptoz | never mind ..anyway |
| 07:03.24 | konfuzed | ubuntu hmm pros and cons to everything |
| 07:03.25 | engineerdat | i kinda expect debian testing to be stable tho |
| 07:03.50 | jasonmcox | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 07:03.53 | jasonmcox | its fat32 |
| 07:04.00 | Coweater | it's more stable than unstable |
| 07:04.01 | ft | jasonmcox: man mount |
| 07:04.13 | kryptoz | so do "mount -t vfat ..." |
| 07:04.34 | konfuzed | testing implies, at a minimum, testing for stability cuz its not ironed out yet |
| 07:05.14 | kryptoz | hey i am downloading debian dvd .. will the first dvd be enuf to install with decent package selection ? |
| 07:05.34 | jasonmcox | ok |
| 07:06.08 | ft | kryptoz: for installation, even the first cd would be enough, you can get the rest of the net... |
| 07:06.15 | kryptoz | mm cool |
| 07:06.25 | kryptoz | cuz i cant wait to taste debian .. |
| 07:06.25 | jasonmcox | mount: /dev/sda5 is not a valid block device |
| 07:06.26 | kryptoz | :d |
| 07:06.38 | kryptoz | who said its /dev/sda5 ? |
| 07:06.48 | kryptoz | what is ur sda4, sda3 and all ? |
| 07:07.02 | jasonmcox | well i kept pulling it out |
| 07:07.09 | jasonmcox | and it gt a new addy every time |
| 07:07.11 | jasonmcox | up too 5 |
| 07:07.31 | elnovatillo | aaaaaahhhhh |
| 07:07.37 | elnovatillo | im sorry |
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| 07:08.27 | jasonmcox | does anyone want to do a remote control |
| 07:09.03 | foo | Hmm, what should perms be on /dev/psaux ? 600, right? |
| 07:09.24 | jasonmcox | kryptoz: i tried sda1-5 none worked |
| 07:09.59 | jasonmcox | this is why i tried 5 Feb 19 00:22:56 localhost kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:10.4-3.1, assigned address 5 |
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| 07:10.06 | kryptoz | :) |
| 07:10.19 | kryptoz | okay |
| 07:10.26 | kryptoz | well |
| 07:12.12 | heyu | hey guys i will like to test how secure is my system. I have windows xp but runnig at this moment a linux boot cd. I will leve the chat room or I can stay .Botton line if you can get into my system my email is vidalr@telus.net is somebody up to the test . Thanks to all who will tried |
| 07:12.45 | heyu | ......... |
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| 07:13.10 | ft | since when is this '#l33thaX0rz'? |
| 07:13.24 | elnovatillo | heyu: we are comunists |
| 07:13.38 | heyu | is normal |
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| 07:13.59 | tengulre | Hi,all |
| 07:14.08 | elnovatillo | we eat windoze users with carrots |
| 07:14.21 | heyu | ok |
| 07:14.23 | tengulre | http://www.megacomm.com.cn/download/wmv/florida_voting_system.wmv |
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| 07:16.41 | elnovatillo | nobody ever called me haxor :P |
| 07:16.42 | jasonmcox | hello i get wrong fs type when mouunting and i used vfat |
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| 07:17.18 | bird | how do i get linux to recognize my video card? |
| 07:17.34 | jasonmcox | bird: i used vesa drivers |
| 07:17.34 | elnovatillo | what gpu you using? |
| 07:17.37 | ootput | jasonmcox: try auto |
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| 07:18.29 | jasonmcox | ootput: how i replaced vfat with auto and it said i didnt specify |
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| 07:22.19 | bird | jason: how do i shut down linux so i can take out my card and look at the gpu? |
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| 07:23.22 | elnovatillo | !shutdown |
| 07:23.22 | dpkg | well, shutdown is "shutdown -h" now |
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| 07:24.17 | ft | bird: you should read a good book about linux if oyu don't know how to shutdown your system |
| 07:24.27 | ft | s/oyu/you/ |
| 07:24.32 | ootput | jasonmcox: are you using /etc/fstab? |
| 07:27.27 | nvz_ | no wonder I am freezing my ass off its 3degF(-16degC) feels like -14degF(-25.9degC) |
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| 07:28.30 | elnovatillo | i cant find my windoze installer dang |
| 07:28.30 | ootput | ah, but at least it's not 37'C |
| 07:28.42 | nvz_ | I got a gas furnace and an electric heater and they dont seem to be helping :P there is frost building up on them |
| 07:28.57 | engineerdat | 3F here too |
| 07:29.00 | heyu | waiting... |
| 07:29.18 | nvz_ | I need to tear up this carpet and put padding under it |
| 07:29.31 | nvz_ | feels like most of the cold is comming right through the cement |
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| 07:29.38 | ootput | heyu: aren't online security scanners much faster? |
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| 07:30.33 | heyu | i want just to test my system |
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| 07:31.05 | engineerdat | is it best to install mplayer from source or use the french .debs? |
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| 07:31.18 | heyu | scaners said good bla bla bla |
| 07:31.33 | motyR | Hi there:) |
| 07:31.38 | ootput | engineerdat: marillat |
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| 07:31.46 | elnovatillo | engineerdat: marillat worked fine |
| 07:31.47 | ootput | engineerdat: but keep in mind that there are alternatives to mplayer |
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| 07:32.00 | nvz_ | engineerdat: I've been using xine the past few months.. I really only like mplayer because its very flexible on the commandline and outside X with svgalib, aalib..etc and has mencoder |
| 07:32.09 | motyR | firsr time debian install, need some help:( |
| 07:32.18 | nvz_ | engineerdat: there are english debs from marillat |
| 07:32.32 | ootput | i used mplayer almost exclusively until i found about vlc's client/server model |
| 07:32.41 | engineerdat | ootput, nvz_ thx, looking for a movie player with wmv support |
| 07:32.51 | engineerdat | not in love with mplayer |
| 07:32.53 | nvz_ | engineerdat: thats silly |
| 07:32.56 | motyR | ammm for some reason the installation complain about missing kernel modules? |
| 07:33.00 | ootput | engineerdat: apt-get install w32codecs while you're at it |
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| 07:33.06 | nvz_ | engineerdat: wmv support has nothing at all to do with a player |
| 07:33.26 | nvz_ | engineerdat: install w32codecs, then any player will play wmv, wma, divx, ra, rm, qt, mov..etc |
| 07:33.43 | motyR | how do i force the installation install the 2.4 kernel, install24 wont do it? |
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| 07:33.56 | engineerdat | ootput, nvz_, thx, that's what i need |
| 07:34.19 | motyR | guys PLEASE, dont know where to look at... |
| 07:34.34 | nvz_ | motyR: are you installing debian from cd? |
| 07:34.38 | ootput | motyR: expert mode? |
| 07:34.48 | nvz_ | motyR: afaik booting normally pressing enter boots and installs 2.4 |
| 07:34.56 | motyR | yep |
| 07:35.01 | nvz_ | you have to tell it explicitly if you want to install 2.5 |
| 07:35.03 | motyR | tryed them both |
| 07:35.04 | nvz_ | 2.6 even |
| 07:35.11 | motyR | how? |
| 07:35.20 | motyR | install24 wopnt do it |
| 07:35.27 | nvz_ | whats the difference if you dont want 2.6 anyhow |
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| 07:35.34 | nvz_ | it installs 2.4 by default |
| 07:35.39 | motyR | but why isnt it finding the kernel modules |
| 07:35.42 | nvz_ | you dont have to type anything |
| 07:36.02 | nvz_ | why arent you asking the question you want answered? |
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| 07:36.07 | motyR | so it complains about missing modules |
| 07:36.26 | motyR | BTW it's sid |
| 07:36.38 | nvz_ | there is no sid install |
| 07:36.44 | nvz_ | you are using unofficial materials |
| 07:36.50 | motyR | yea |
| 07:36.51 | ice_1963 | :0) |
| 07:36.57 | nvz_ | install sarge or etch or go away |
| 07:37.04 | motyR | link from debian |
| 07:37.15 | nvz_ | you can upgrade to sid later.. and there may not even be 2.4 for sid |
| 07:37.35 | nvz_ | debian doesnt distribute sid installs AFAIK |
| 07:38.00 | motyR | so let me get u, i need to install stable or testin and then upgrade? |
| 07:38.16 | nvz_ | thats the smart way (tm) |
| 07:38.48 | motyR | is there any logical reason for that? |
| 07:38.50 | nvz_ | you'll probably still manage to break your system but at least you will catch a glimpse of it working |
| 07:39.09 | motyR | :) |
| 07:39.32 | heyu | ...... |
| 07:39.32 | nvz_ | yeah the reason is that debian doesnt distribute installs of sid and even if it did wtf would you d/l all kinds of broken packages that may not install anyhow.. d/l something that will as a base then break things one at a time |
| 07:39.49 | ice_1963 | install sarge then upgrade to sid i like that one lol |
| 07:40.10 | nvz_ | from sarge you would serve yourself best to upgrade to testing first |
| 07:40.26 | motyR | seriously??? |
| 07:40.29 | nvz_ | but in any case using etch or sarge is better than trying to install sid directly |
| 07:40.33 | motyR | alot of work |
| 07:40.38 | nvz_ | you can install etch |
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| 07:41.09 | nvz_ | and you can go from sarge to sid, but its not recommended the package breakage could be worse |
| 07:41.15 | heyu | by |
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| 07:41.40 | nvz_ | bottom line is you should be using sarge if you are not ready to work. |
| 07:41.49 | ice_1963 | RIGHT |
| 07:41.55 | nvz_ | cause sid can be a lot of work sometimes. |
| 07:42.05 | ice_1963 | i know |
| 07:42.10 | motyR | i c |
| 07:42.52 | nvz_ | people can ruin a package fundamental to your system at any moment when you are using sid, and then your whole system crashes and you cry |
| 07:42.58 | nvz_ | do you know what to do then? |
| 07:43.17 | motyR | yea i think |
| 07:43.21 | nvz_ | furthermore do you know enough to prevent or solve these issues |
| 07:43.25 | motyR | but few more... |
| 07:43.28 | ice_1963 | motyR: well you can jest install ubuntu |
| 07:43.30 | threat | hey, is there a debian kernel package which has a SATA patch so as I can use hdparm with SATA drives? |
| 07:43.36 | motyR | i have it now |
| 07:43.43 | nvz_ | I am suprised how many people dont even use tools like apt-listbugs or apt-listchanges |
| 07:43.59 | ice_1963 | i know |
| 07:44.14 | nvz_ | I used to use em when I ran unstable. it doesnt catch unknown problems, but it sure keeps you up to speed with the known ones |
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| 07:45.07 | yos87 | hi |
| 07:45.20 | yos87 | how car I make the right side bar in this picture |
| 07:45.21 | yos87 | http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=157810041405a8436d52f1&m=screen |
| 07:45.22 | motyR | nvz_: i'm a kde user, dont really care for gnome and such, now my problem is if i'll be using some more stable debian cd's would i be able to install 3.5.1? |
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| 07:45.53 | nvz_ | motyR: haha thats cute |
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| 07:46.02 | nvz_ | you think you are gonna be happy with sid? |
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| 07:46.13 | motyR | donno |
| 07:46.20 | motyR | thats why i ask... |
| 07:46.22 | yos87 | I install gdesklets |
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| 07:46.40 | yos87 | but I didn't fine that toolbar |
| 07:46.41 | ft | i think there's a kde 3.5 backport on backports.org... |
| 07:46.47 | ice_1963 | i'm running kde 3.5.1 right now |
| 07:46.59 | nvz_ | if you arent a console person I wouldnt recommend sid.. you arent going to QT-Dialog click your ass through package breakage |
| 07:47.16 | nvz_ | half the time your KDE will be the problem, and X wont be working |
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| 07:47.50 | ft | i wouldn't recommend using sid if you have to ask questions like that :-) |
| 07:47.53 | motyR | i'm a console peson which dont really like to use it often, i like my box working for me and not vice versa... |
| 07:47.57 | yos87 | http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=157810041405a8436d52f1&m=screen |
| 07:48.29 | kaitlyn | Question: I am running the newest stable release of debian. I have it boot into console. However, the console is continulously flooded with the contents of /var/log/messages and even after looking for /etc/syslog.conf and changing a few things, I can't figure out how to stop it. Anyone had this problem before? |
| 07:48.36 | motyR | ft: like what? |
| 07:48.40 | nvz_ | motyR: I dont think debian is for you. you cant have your box working and have the bleeding edge |
| 07:48.56 | motyR | i c |
| 07:49.02 | ice_1963 | nvz_: why do you say that ? |
| 07:49.11 | nvz_ | motyR: you have to choose which is more important.. because you cant expect brand new software to have all the bug ironed |
| 07:49.24 | Brumac | choose woody |
| 07:49.25 | cahoot | nvz_: I suppose that goes for any distro |
| 07:49.41 | yos87 | please, someone know how to make the right side bar in this screen : http://www.schnitzer.at/dominik/debian-shot.png |
| 07:49.58 | ft | motyR: stable && kde 3.5; you should know where to find infomation like that |
| 07:50.10 | nvz_ | cahoot: yes but debian has no interest in new, its about stability and freedom.. freedom to use another distro that is more up to date and less stable |
| 07:50.46 | motyR | BTW guys i'm not as domb as u might think, any way i've written that one: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31447, and like to have more time working on it instead of tweaking my box |
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| 07:51.17 | ft | who said, you were dumb? |
| 07:51.24 | motyR | guess u |
| 07:51.25 | nvz_ | cahoot: its nieve to think you got a system with 15000+ packages and 1000 or so maintainers and that a new 500+package desktop environment version that flows in from upstream is just going to work right off the bat with the system without any testing and tweaking |
| 07:51.31 | motyR | but its ok |
| 07:51.37 | motyR | no problems here |
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| 07:52.12 | nvz_ | cahoot: things take time, and the majority of the people wanting to test these bleeding edge softwares are actually going to help the cause. |
| 07:52.27 | \amethyst | yos87: looks like a gnome panel with either a solid background color, or transparency |
| 07:52.41 | dedalo_ | !uname -r |
| 07:52.41 | \amethyst | yos87: with expand turned off |
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| 07:53.00 | \amethyst | yos87: you can right click on a gnome panel and select Properties |
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| 07:53.16 | \amethyst | yos87: or New Panel if you want to have that in addition to your ordinary panel |
| 07:53.20 | ft | motyR: being able to create a neat looking kde theme does not mean you can cope with a broken sid systems; that does not mean that you |
| 07:53.27 | ft | 're dumb... |
| 07:53.48 | motyR | : |
| 07:53.51 | motyR | :) |
| 07:54.14 | motyR | so basicly what are u using guys? |
| 07:54.43 | \amethyst | yos87: you might also want to look at StarterBar in gdesklets |
| 07:55.05 | ft | stable and unstable... |
| 07:55.20 | deadcat | !u |
| 07:55.20 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 07:55.26 | ice_1963 | me to :0) |
| 07:55.40 | motyR | :) |
| 07:55.46 | motyR | got you:) |
| 07:55.55 | ft | motyR: you can try out the kde packages from backports.org; these packages are for stable |
| 07:55.56 | deadcat | shut the fuck up |
| 07:56.14 | ft | deadcat: who? |
| 07:56.19 | deadcat | ft: him |
| 07:56.33 | dominicano | !seen dvm |
| 07:56.33 | dpkg | dvm <n=david@d54C1038C.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 15d 18h 29m 34s ago, saying: 'valdyn: So i wait that he has finished to buil the kernel again'. |
| 07:56.39 | dominicano | !seen dvm1981 |
| 07:56.40 | dpkg | dvm1981 <n=david@d54C1038C.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 7h 23m 47s ago, saying: 'Also i need to disable the touchpad typping that are verry bad, -> the use of PS2'. |
| 07:57.00 | yos87 | \amethyst: I fount starterBar, but when I click on it , Couldn't find sensor |
| 07:57.05 | yos87 | messege |
| 07:57.49 | yos87 | \amethyst: but the sumblath look is no like that toolbar |
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| 08:00.25 | \amethyst | yos87: yeah, the one in that screenshot looks like gnome-panel |
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| 08:02.39 | IdahoEv | anyone familiar with dnsmasq? |
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| 08:03.22 | konfuzed | no but ask anyway, just be specific |
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| 08:03.54 | yos87 | \amethyst: I don't know the gnome panal |
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| 08:04.14 | yos87 | \amethyst: where is gnome panel? |
| 08:04.29 | dannyp | anyone know much about manual TOC editing/writing illegal TOCs? |
| 08:05.24 | dannyp | a few dozen bytes on the CD, why's it so hard to edit :-\ |
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| 08:06.08 | IdahoEv | I set it up to resolve machine names on my LAN, and forward other requests to upstream DNS servers. Right now, client machines pointing to the debian server running dnsmasq *can* resolve names with host or dig - the server returns the correct IP for that name. But, they cannot actually connect to those machines by name. If I try (for example with ssh), I get "No address associated with nodename". Here are examples from the shel |
| 08:06.25 | foo | Err. Having some SERIOUS issues with X here. Have been troubleshooting for several hours. Here is what I am getting when I try to startx: http://notix.ath.cx:81/temp/startxerr.txt ... those apm errors are weird. I installed gnome-desktop (402mb) on this debian system and I started getting these problems. http://notix.ath.cx:81/temp/Xorg.0.log - this is my Xorg log ... any input is greatly appreciate. I am 100% sure the mouse is /dev/psaux. Something else is hap |
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| 08:06.51 | IdahoEv | To be clear - the trouble is only with local (i.e.) LAN names. Upstream names seem to be handled correctly in all cases. |
| 08:07.01 | konfuzed | IdahoEv: perhaps resolv.conf has things out of order |
| 08:07.08 | yos87 | \amethyst: hi |
| 08:07.20 | IdahoEv | konfuzed: on the server, or the client, do you mean? |
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| 08:07.47 | konfuzed | mmmm I always think everything all runs on just one box |
| 08:08.02 | kryptoz | foo ... run xorgconfig and configure it carefully |
| 08:08.12 | kryptoz | it seems ur xorg.conf is all messed up |
| 08:08.13 | konfuzed | do have the same problem from a shell both on the server and on the workstation |
| 08:08.17 | foo | kryptoz: I have some special stuff in my Xorg file. Can I show that to you? |
| 08:08.20 | yos87 | \amethyst: are you here |
| 08:08.24 | IdahoEv | konfuzed: Everything works okay on the server. |
| 08:08.35 | foo | kryptoz: http://notix.ath.cx:81/temp/xorg.conf |
| 08:08.37 | kryptoz | well i am no expert in xorg but lets see |
| 08:08.45 | kryptoz | okay |
| 08:08.52 | konfuzed | what os is the client ( i hate to presume ) |
| 08:09.00 | IdahoEv | :-) OS X |
| 08:09.00 | earthling | installed fbset but /dev/fb[0-7] are not being created .... i've run dpkg-reconfigure fbset and it SAYS it creates them but they never show up in /dev/fb* I think udev is keeping them from being created but, what do i know :-( .. I need these devices, any help? Thanks.. |
| 08:09.09 | konfuzed | well then |
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| 08:09.25 | IdahoEv | But otherwise ssh and dns have always worked fine on the macs |
| 08:09.39 | konfuzed | make sure you turn off Aplle Talk ;^) |
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| 08:10.01 | IdahoEv | :-) I think appletalk died about eight years ago. |
| 08:10.30 | konfuzed | ok so how many macs have this issue how many dont and any windows boxes with this problem? |
| 08:10.59 | konfuzed | Apple still likes to set up apples talk, i think?! |
| 08:11.20 | yos87 | \amethyst: but in the link http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?search_start=0&p=app&app_name=gdesklets it shows as gdesklets |
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| 08:11.37 | IdahoEv | so far, I've tested 3 machines. 1) debian box running the DNS server. All works okay. 2) and 3) both macs with OS X. They can look up addresses fine with "host", but cannot connect to local servers by name even though it can find them with "host". |
| 08:11.39 | konfuzed | IdahoEv: this ensures I can eliminate a huge area of possibilities |
| 08:11.48 | IdahoEv | I will test a windoze box now |
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| 08:12.33 | kryptoz | hey IdahoEv ur X11 error shows "(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux" |
| 08:12.34 | konfuzed | hhhhmmmm |
| 08:12.36 | Kovecses | lol bunghole |
| 08:12.38 | konfuzed | way too cold here |
| 08:12.44 | bunghole | yes it is |
| 08:12.45 | kryptoz | and i don't see anything mentioning that in the xorg |
| 08:12.45 | konfuzed | im gonna turn on another computer |
| 08:12.47 | bunghole | its freezing outside man |
| 08:12.49 | yos87 | http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=157810041405a8436d52f1&m=screen |
| 08:12.52 | IdahoEv | my X11 error? ?? |
| 08:12.59 | kryptoz | jeez |
| 08:13.04 | kryptoz | sorry |
| 08:13.06 | kryptoz | it was to foo |
| 08:13.11 | Kovecses | bunghole, where u from? |
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| 08:13.41 | yos87 | how to open gnome panel |
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| 08:13.44 | konfuzed | bunghole: are you in Winterpeg Manisnowba ? |
| 08:13.44 | IdahoEv | s'ok |
| 08:13.47 | kryptoz | rm -rf $my_sentence_to_IdahoEv |
| 08:14.32 | bunghole | I need to run windows because I need access to IE. My stupid calculus class requires homework to be sumitted online and done online too, with some gay active X control called MathXL player. Anyway, I don't have another pc, and I can't repartition for dualboot, how can I use xp under linux? School gave me a free copy of Xp for free. |
| 08:14.43 | bunghole | konfuzed, im in the midwest |
| 08:14.51 | konfuzed | bunghole: install IE on your linux box |
| 08:14.52 | IdahoEv | rofl kryptoz |
| 08:15.03 | bunghole | konfuzed, how? |
| 08:15.06 | bunghole | just wine it? |
| 08:15.07 | Kovecses | bunghole, use vmware.... or wine with ie |
| 08:15.08 | konfuzed | midwest can only be south of the 49 |
| 08:15.12 | G400 | fonts ... driving me crazy. 18.1 inch LCD, 1280x1024 16-bit, 90 dpi, Matrox G400 VGA, sarge, msttcorefonts, everything very blurry w/ anti-alias or jaggy without, how-tos read by the dozen. Should I try building libfreetype6 from source to enable bytecode interpreter? Some say that looks bad on LCD... |
| 08:15.17 | bunghole | vmware is not free |
| 08:15.24 | konfuzed | bunghole: you've never seen cold |
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| 08:15.32 | Kovecses | bunghole, the download of vmware is free |
| 08:15.34 | jasonmcox | man i still cant get it to work |
| 08:15.36 | bunghole | konfuzed, have you ever lived in 12 feet of snow? |
| 08:15.41 | IdahoEv | okay, exact same problem on the windoze box as the macs. From the DOS prompt I can look up local hosts with "nslookup", but I cannot connect to those names with winSCP or in a web browser for example |
| 08:15.43 | Kovecses | bunghole, you just need a product key |
| 08:15.45 | jasonmcox | kryptoz: it says wrong fs type |
| 08:15.51 | kryptoz | a:o |
| 08:16.02 | kryptoz | jasonmcox, ur usb still not working |
| 08:16.07 | kryptoz | :o |
| 08:16.09 | bunghole | Kovecses, ahh, well then, thats not too big of a deal, theres tons of cracks etc. out there |
| 08:16.28 | kryptoz | well ... what other "sda" devices u have ? |
| 08:16.36 | jasonmcox | Kovecses: cracks are illegal |
| 08:16.38 | bunghole | ahh boy, soon as the name windows came up in my life again, cracks and serials come with it. what a lame world it is that windows people live in |
| 08:16.43 | konfuzed | bunghole: every hear of Tobermorey, the water way at the top of lake huron that connects to Georgian Bay? |
| 08:16.44 | kryptoz | sda1 to sda4 what are they ? |
| 08:16.57 | jasonmcox | kryptoz: its sde i found out |
| 08:17.00 | Kovecses | jasonmcox, yes crack is illegal |
| 08:17.01 | kryptoz | cool |
| 08:17.07 | IdahoEv | konfuzed: so since it doesn't work from windoze either, that seems to imply the problem is on the server somehow |
| 08:17.10 | bunghole | konfuzed, I am originally from nyc, I've lived through some serious shit especially when I lived in maine for a year |
| 08:17.11 | konfuzed | I hiked a week south from there from Jan 3 to 15 |
| 08:17.13 | kryptoz | how u got that ? |
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| 08:17.21 | darkcmd | i did apt-get source coreutils to get the coreutils source |
| 08:17.27 | darkcmd | now how do I build and install it |
| 08:17.28 | jasonmcox | i use mount -t auto /dev/sde /mnt/myusb |
| 08:17.36 | jasonmcox | but auto does not work |
| 08:17.38 | kryptoz | mm and what it says ? |
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| 08:17.44 | kryptoz | what is the err message ? |
| 08:17.46 | kryptoz | why auto |
| 08:17.46 | jasonmcox | it says i need to specift the file sys |
| 08:17.48 | konfuzed | bunghole: I wont even go to Manishowba Winterpeg |
| 08:17.49 | kryptoz | u said its fat |
| 08:17.57 | jasonmcox | vfat? |
| 08:18.00 | kryptoz | so use mount -t vfat /dev/sde /mnt/myusb |
| 08:18.01 | kryptoz | jasonmcox but auto does not work |
| 08:18.01 | jasonmcox | it says wrong |
| 08:18.03 | Kovecses | im in a very cold climate |
| 08:18.05 | bunghole | konfuzed, alright, well thanks, I am going to go install vmware |
| 08:18.13 | kryptoz | wrong :| |
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| 08:18.16 | kryptoz | mm |
| 08:18.17 | ejofee | what is blackdown java and why do some distros prefer it over the official sun release for gnu/linux? |
| 08:18.21 | konfuzed | I grew up in montreal and enjoyed regular snow drifts 4 to 8 feet up the front door |
| 08:18.22 | kryptoz | hold on .. |
| 08:18.25 | foo | What does debian use for modules.conf ? or do I just make a /etc/modules.conf?> |
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| 08:18.41 | jasonmcox | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sde, |
| 08:18.45 | konfuzed | Kovecses: your nick makes me think of ice |
| 08:18.51 | nevyn | foo modules.conf on debian is maintaned by update-modules |
| 08:18.59 | Kovecses | konfuzed, lol... its my last name |
| 08:19.06 | foo | nevyn: Hmm, can I just edit /etc/modules.conf if I want to add an option? Hmm |
| 08:19.32 | kryptoz | okay hold on |
| 08:19.35 | G400 | foo:deprecated. Edit /etc/modutils/actions then update-modules |
| 08:19.42 | foo | G400: ah |
| 08:19.47 | konfuzed | bunghole: excellent, we need more people running IE safely under linux |
| 08:19.58 | ootput | do any of you know if there's a font that's similar to fixed (with great unicode support) but with slashed zeros (or zeros with dots in the middle?) |
| 08:20.07 | Kovecses | konfuzed, that is the dumbest thing ever |
| 08:20.35 | foo | G400: ah, thanks |
| 08:20.48 | IdahoEv | ah, i figured it out |
| 08:20.49 | rokera^^^ | i have question for samba but in #samba no one want to help me. may ask the question here ? |
| 08:20.50 | konfuzed | Kovecses: which part running IE safely under linux or your icy sounding name |
| 08:20.59 | IdahoEv | resolvers don't like names without dots in them. |
| 08:20.59 | Kovecses | konfuzed, the ie thing |
| 08:21.08 | konfuzed | IdahoEv: of course not |
| 08:21.32 | IdahoEv | Well, I am new at DNS. I assumed since "host machinename" returned an address, it was working ok |
| 08:21.33 | konfuzed | also zone files have special handling for periods but you already know that right |
| 08:21.49 | G400 | rokera^^^: Fine by me... Ask, don't ask to ask, as someone will say unless I do. |
| 08:22.20 | konfuzed | Kovecses: cant you get IE runing on your linux box? |
| 08:22.30 | rokera^^^ | g400:how i can know from the machine "X" from network with MS Windows XP home - who is local master browser at the moment? |
| 08:22.36 | Kovecses | konfuzed, yes but i see no point |
| 08:22.55 | kameron | does linux fare well with synthesizers? |
| 08:22.59 | Kovecses | konfuzed, if I wanted activeX controls I would use the windows version of firefox |
| 08:23.17 | konfuzed | Kovecses: havent you seen all those IE only sites |
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| 08:23.48 | Kovecses | konfuzed, i havent personally .... but im sure they exist |
| 08:23.51 | konfuzed | for those well programmed MS web servers no doubt |
| 08:24.18 | Garp | Question: on debian testing, how to switch from lilo to grub as boot loader? Thanks. |
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| 08:24.31 | rokera^^^ | how i can know from the machine "X" from network with MS Windows XP home - who is local master browser at the moment? |
| 08:24.40 | konfuzed | for the longest time no, when ever I type MS for short I always think of the Multiple Sclerosis Operating System |
| 08:24.41 | Kovecses | Garp, do you have grub installed? |
| 08:24.48 | ejofee | what is blackdown java and why do some distros prefer it over the official sun release for gnu/linux? |
| 08:24.55 | mwillis | Does anyone have any sweet ascii art in their /etc/issue that they would like to share? Possibly debian-themed |
| 08:24.58 | Garp | Kovecses: I aptitude installed grub |
| 08:25.13 | konfuzed | s/no/now |
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| 08:25.24 | Garp | ejofee: on many architecture you dont have any choice... |
| 08:25.31 | Kovecses | Garp, well have you edited a grub.conf before? |
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| 08:25.57 | nvz_ | I almost fell out of my chair. Somehow the wheels keep comming out from under it |
| 08:25.59 | Kovecses | ejofee, im not fond of blackdown |
| 08:26.18 | G400 | rokera^^^: man nmblookup |
| 08:26.29 | Garp | Kovecses: afaik if one install a debian from scratch choosing "grub" from rthe installer is enough (no need to manual editing of any fiule). So this knowledghe should be somewhere no ? |
| 08:27.13 | Kovecses | Garp, well i thought you had lilo installed? |
| 08:28.00 | Garp | Kovecses: my lilo.conf is updated automaticaly when a new kernel is added,so I infer that dpkg knows something abput my installation, so that as swiotching from xfree to xorg, it should do it on its own... But dont know how :( (dpkg-reconfigure grub did nothing) |
| 08:28.04 | nvz_ | mwillis: there is a package with art and also to make them you can also search online |
| 08:28.18 | Garp | Kovecses: yes, currently my system boot on lilo. |
| 08:28.36 | Kovecses | Garp, your overtypiny |
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| 08:29.11 | Garp | Kovecses: ? That means? |
| 08:29.16 | Kovecses | Garp, grub-install /dev/hda or whatever should do it.... but it may break your system if not set up right |
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| 08:29.55 | Garp | Kovecses: so, you mean that debian cant help me for that? |
| 08:30.06 | G400 | Garp: make sure you have a boot floppy around before messing with your MBR |
| 08:30.10 | mwillis | nvz_: Oh cool!! What is the package? |
| 08:30.18 | elnovato | how to login to kde as root? |
| 08:30.22 | Kovecses | Garp, debian uses grub by default how did you end up with lilo? |
| 08:30.27 | Garp | G400: I dont have any floppy drive anyway... |
| 08:30.59 | Garp | Kovecses: Dunno, that was some time ago! |
| 08:31.15 | G400 | Garp: OK, well, some other bootable medium - CD? Network? Or just risk it... |
| 08:31.18 | foo | woah, weird - "You are not the owner of /var/run/screen/S-foo" - I am getting this when I try to make a screen - any ideas? |
| 08:31.26 | Kovecses | Garp, well then ... why grub anyway lilo is cool? |
| 08:31.41 | nvz_ | mwillis: cant remember but I thought some package had an issue file would have to search I guess on pdo |
| 08:31.51 | Garp | G400: and anyway,; with grub one can edit the boot command completly so, recovering should be possible (that's one of the reason for my switch) |
| 08:31.53 | G400 | elnovato: you may need to configure ?dm to allow root login |
| 08:32.07 | Garp | G400: But I hope to ave some CD around. |
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| 08:32.22 | Garp | Kovecses: because grub is cooler. |
| 08:32.30 | G400 | Garp: you are correct but it's hard to read the manual if you have only one system |
| 08:32.31 | mwillis | nvz_: okay, thank you!! |
| 08:32.34 | Kovecses | Garp, thats arguable |
| 08:33.33 | Kovecses | Garp, but ..... the command I said will install grub to the MBR but.. if the grub.conf file isnt edited right????? |
| 08:33.36 | Garp | anyway... If not much helps the switch, I likely wont do it. |
| 08:34.19 | Garp | Kovecses: then, you just enter the right command a grub prompt. Contrary to lilo, you can boot even if it's reaaly wrong. |
| 08:34.39 | Garp | (brb) |
| 08:34.46 | Kovecses | bbl |
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| 08:35.36 | Garp | (back) |
| 08:36.23 | Garp | Anyway... I'll give up on that grub thing: as it seems that there is no mechanism in debian for it, I'm not sure I'll do it. |
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| 08:38.31 | Garp | Question: After months of stability, it's the second time today that my machine froze up. Anything known? Config: Sempron, mostly debian testing. 2.6.15-1-k7. Any idea? Thanks. |
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| 08:40.42 | G400 | Garp: can you ssh into the machine? |
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| 08:41.09 | Garp | I have strange pixmaps "refresh" in X11: backgroud image and several applications pixmaps are replaced by old distorded images taken from old firefox sessions... |
| 08:41.23 | Garp | G400: no, the machine didnt even reply to ping. Dead. |
| 08:41.30 | kaitlyn | Okay, stupid question. I downloaded debian-31r1-i386-binary-1.iso.torrent, is that woody, or sarge? *hides in a n00b corner* |
| 08:42.13 | G400 | Garp: overclocking? |
| 08:42.14 | chaedaeX_ | Garp: did you run update-grub? |
| 08:42.42 | Garp | G400: first time, I just reboot. Second time I became more surprised. (and as I wanted to install grub, rebooting time was cool so my previous question ;-) |
| 08:42.47 | Garp | chaedaeX_: I still use lilo |
| 08:42.54 | G400 | kaitlyn: 3.1 is sarge |
| 08:42.57 | Garp | chaedaeX_: no, I didnnt tried to configure grub now. |
| 08:43.07 | kaitlyn | G400: Thanks. ^.^ |
| 08:43.10 | Garp | G400: no, no overclocking. |
| 08:43.12 | chaedaeX_ | Garp: well update-grub will create a new menu.lst based on all kernels it finds in /boot |
| 08:43.27 | Garp | chaedaeX_: hooo... that's what I was looking for, then :-) |
| 08:43.37 | Garp | chaedaeX_: thanks :-) |
| 08:43.45 | chaedaeX_ | Garp: yep |
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| 08:44.09 | Garp | G400: I suspected the kernel too... |
| 08:44.17 | G400 | garp: is this just a regression with this new kernel? |
| 08:44.28 | Garp | (have to go to eat... Iddle for 20mn) |
| 08:44.43 | Garp | G400: I dont know if its kernel, its very recent anyway... |
| 08:44.53 | G400 | sounds likely |
| 08:45.23 | Garp | G400: I fist suspected kde upgrade. but I rebooted using gdm and gnome and saw this strange pixmap stuff... So It must be something else |
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| 08:46.08 | Garp | G400: so my idea is either xorg or kernel, or both: first idea, reconfigure xorg without framebuffer, welll... I dunno... |
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| 08:46.26 | Garp | but anyway, I go to eat now. Thanks for your advices. |
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| 08:51.06 | kaitlyn | Does anyone know an mp3 player for Linux that is just command line, when it finishes playing an mp3 it exits and is avalable in Debian? I usually use madplay, or mpg321 but neither of them are in the reporitries I'm using and I couldn't find one in apt-get.org? |
| 08:51.53 | bunghole | kaitlyn, which debian distro are you using? sarge/etch/sid? |
| 08:52.01 | kaitlyn | bunghole: Sarge. |
| 08:52.11 | bunghole | !tell kaitlyn about simple sid backport |
| 08:52.27 | kaitlyn | I'm using it as a router, and file server but also want it to function as an alarm clock, without X. |
| 08:52.32 | chaedaeX_ | kaitlyn: mpg123, ogg123, etc. |
| 08:53.05 | G400 | kaitlyn: mplayer will surely play mp3s! It is command-line |
| 08:53.08 | chaedaeX_ | mpg321 |
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| 08:54.53 | foo | does debian use true sysV style booting? (as oppose to rh's and other's pseudo sysV style) |
| 08:55.27 | chaedaeX_ | foo: why are the others pseudo? |
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| 08:56.24 | liable | !info mpg321 sarge |
| 08:56.30 | dpkg | mpg321: (A Free command-line mp3 player, compatible with mpg123), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.10.3 (sarge), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 128 kB |
| 08:56.46 | G400 | so... anybody who solved ugly fonts in sarge, pray tell all |
| 08:57.01 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:57.02 | dpkg | popcon is probably the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 08:57.04 | liable | kaitlyn: ^^ its in the repos.. |
| 08:57.09 | tarzeau | G400: screenshot? |
| 08:57.15 | chaedaeX_ | dpkg-reconfigure defoma or fontconfig? |
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| 08:58.24 | G400 | tarzeau: great idea - how do I do that? Basically, fonts are blurry or jaggy depending whether I have anti-aliasing on - sub-pixel rendering makes very little difference in any mode |
| 08:58.45 | G400 | This is Truetype, BTW |
| 08:58.47 | tarzeau | G400: apt-get install scrot |
| 08:58.50 | tarzeau | G400: scrot peng.png |
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| 08:59.05 | tarzeau | G400: install an httpd and put it into /var/www, tell us your ip |
| 09:00.58 | G400 | tarzeau: steady on! |
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| 09:02.36 | chaedaeX_ | anyone here know about sound daemons? is there a sound daemon that allows any app to connect to /dev/dsp? or do they all require connecting to themselves? |
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| 09:02.50 | gourdin | hi there |
| 09:03.17 | threat | hi |
| 09:03.18 | gourdin | I'm trying to install the sun's jdk on my debian, I found some howtos using fakeroot and java-package |
| 09:03.20 | G400 | isn't there a website somewhere to dump image files? |
| 09:03.29 | gourdin | but java-package isn't available |
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| 09:03.37 | threat | gourdin, yes it is |
| 09:03.43 | gourdin | threat: ? |
| 09:03.47 | threat | gourdin, nano /etc/apt/source.list |
| 09:03.49 | gourdin | on unofficial mirrors ? |
| 09:03.52 | gourdin | =) |
| 09:04.03 | gourdin | what do I have to add there ? |
| 09:04.07 | threat | gourdin, sources.list, |
| 09:04.08 | threat | even |
| 09:04.11 | threat | gourdin, contrib |
| 09:04.17 | threat | after your stable main :) |
| 09:04.23 | gourdin | (sid=) |
| 09:04.27 | threat | and install java-package |
| 09:04.53 | threat | then download the java runtime and (optional) jdl |
| 09:04.57 | threat | jdk |
| 09:05.03 | gourdin | the fakeroot mke-jpkg |
| 09:05.05 | gourdin | ... |
| 09:05.12 | threat | then type in make-jpkg something.bin |
| 09:05.12 | Eulex | !install java |
| 09:05.13 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
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| 09:05.16 | threat | yeah as fakeroot |
| 09:05.20 | jfs | G400: http://www.putfile.com/ |
| 09:05.21 | Eulex | !java-package |
| 09:05.21 | dpkg | somebody said java-package was a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 09:05.42 | threat | gourdin, gimme root to your box and I will install it for you. |
| 09:05.46 | gourdin | threat , Eulex thx ;) |
| 09:06.09 | pureone | :\ |
| 09:06.12 | gourdin | threat : ok, wait a moment |
| 09:06.13 | G400 | jfs:ok, thanks, I'm getting there |
| 09:06.19 | threat | gourdin, np, but seriously, I would like root on your box :) |
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| 09:06.34 | gourdin | threat: not a problem |
| 09:06.44 | Eulex | gourdin, you're exposing yourself to a big security risk doing so |
| 09:06.48 | gourdin | Eulex: =) |
| 09:06.54 | threat | gourdin, yaya, prv msg me the details :P |
| 09:06.58 | pureone | gourdin, can i have root also ? |
| 09:07.08 | gourdin | of course, everyone can have root |
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| 09:07.13 | pureone | yay |
| 09:07.19 | threat | yaya |
| 09:07.19 | gourdin | first method : su - |
| 09:07.21 | Eulex | ... |
| 09:07.24 | threat | harray for earth! |
| 09:07.29 | gourdin | second : ssh root@127.0.0.1 |
| 09:07.36 | threat | no gir, earth is our enemy |
| 09:07.51 | isul | lol |
| 09:08.20 | threat | isul, :) |
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| 09:08.29 | threat | gourdin, :) |
| 09:08.35 | threat | gourdin, ok I will try that |
| 09:08.36 | pureone | password? |
| 09:08.44 | threat | gourdin, yeah thats the password |
| 09:08.57 | gourdin | pureone: I can't give it to you |
| 09:08.57 | Thanatermesis | debian etch: meld: Segfault |
| 09:09.16 | gourdin | pureone: somebody says me that my root password must be private |
| 09:09.19 | gourdin | so... |
| 09:09.22 | pureone | cat /etc/shadow | mail pureone@gmail.com |
| 09:09.30 | gourdin | how |
| 09:09.30 | pureone | ;) |
| 09:09.34 | gourdin | I can do this |
| 09:09.39 | gourdin | without any risk |
| 09:10.07 | gourdin | unless you got some thousands of pc's under your hands |
| 09:10.09 | Eulex | you can't give anyone any access to your box without any security risk :) simple as that |
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| 09:11.29 | gourdin | (btw, I'm searching a valid atari800 ultima3 game, if anyone got some bins...) |
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| 09:16.50 | atiek | hg |
| 09:17.01 | Eulex | I need a terminal that doesn't support utf-8 |
| 09:17.39 | jfs | Eulex: rxvt, the non-unicode version |
| 09:17.47 | Eulex | jfs, ah, thank you :) |
| 09:18.34 | gourdin | after dpkg -i sun-j2sdk5... ... /usr/bin/java is'nt the new one |
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| 09:19.57 | gourdin | do I have to install both jdk and jre ? |
| 09:19.58 | Garp | (brb) |
| 09:19.58 | LattePiu | omg guys |
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| 09:20.15 | LattePiu | this is an amazing new about debian!!! |
| 09:20.24 | LattePiu | let's look at this :O http://s1.bitefight.it/c.php?uid=27557 |
| 09:20.54 | LattePiu | wgets? |
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| 09:21.34 | smcavoy | hello |
| 09:21.36 | pureone | you must not be a linux user... |
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| 09:21.52 | smcavoy | how can I disabled ipv6 in sarge, is there a sysctl option to be set? |
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| 09:22.19 | Phated | \o/ dondelelcaro |
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| 09:22.59 | gourdin | pureone: c'est toi le linux user |
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| 09:23.30 | pureone | gourdin, not you :P |
| 09:23.44 | gourdin | c'est toi le notyou =) |
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| 09:24.25 | watchdog19 | Hi all ! |
| 09:24.30 | gourdin | so many manipulations in order to install a jvm, grrrr é"'()éçà~#][^]~#@ |
| 09:24.47 | gourdin | hi watchdog4352948 ! |
| 09:24.50 | watchdog19 | Big problem : after some dist-upgrade, my Debian changed the partitions ordering |
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| 09:25.17 | watchdog19 | and I did a mkswap on the wrong partition, which was in fact an ext3 |
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| 09:25.25 | watchdog19 | How can I recover my data ? |
| 09:25.41 | watchdog19 | I've not used the wrong swap space, only created it... |
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| 09:26.23 | gourdin | dist-upgrade only update your packages |
| 09:26.36 | gourdin | not your partitions, isn't it ? |
| 09:26.44 | watchdog19 | gourdin, I'm not sure it was an effect of the dist-upgrade, true... |
| 09:26.51 | Eulex | it may upgrade your kernel too |
| 09:27.01 | Eulex | and the new kernel might show it in another order |
| 09:27.09 | watchdog19 | Eulex, I don't think it has done such a thing... |
| 09:27.27 | watchdog19 | anyway, now I have to deal with my current situation... |
| 09:27.30 | watchdog19 | :-( |
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| 09:29.44 | carthik | Hi -- how can i install the "suggested" and "recommended" packages too, when I install a package? |
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| 09:30.01 | dondelelcaro | carthik: aptitude will do it for you if you want; it installs recommended packages by default. |
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| 09:31.09 | carthik | dondelelcaro, I haven't been using aptitude (use apt-get so far) - will that be a problem? Also, how do I get the "suggested" packages installed, or at least a prompt to install those? |
| 09:31.17 | Eulex | watchdog19, I think you'll find this interesting: http://www.redhat.com/archives/ext3-users/2005-July/msg00006.html |
| 09:31.27 | jfs | gnupg question: i got my keyid e.g. 0xAB123456, now the 0x in front is not needed but it says e.g. gnupg that this really is an ID. now how can i get the usual short form, e.g. 0x234AABBCC34567C4 (or without the 0x in front) out of my key? i just need to know this longer ID |
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| 09:31.59 | watchdog19 | Eulex, THX! |
| 09:33.29 | dondelelcaro | carthik: it's an option for aptitude; you'll have to modify the configuration file to have it do it automatically. |
| 09:33.46 | Eulex | watchdog19, yw :) |
| 09:34.13 | carthik | dondelelcaro, thank you very much |
| 09:34.54 | AR | Can you help me, after update my distributiv, i don't red the man : man ls |
| 09:34.54 | AR | Reformatting ls(1), please wait... |
| 09:34.54 | AR | manymore: can't execute exec: No such file or directory |
| 09:34.54 | AR | manymore: command exited with status 65280: /usr/bin/zsoelim /tmp/zmanqMDz46 | /usr/bin/tbl | /usr/bin/nroff -mandoc -rLL=107n -rLT=107n -Tascii | exec /usr/bin/pager -s -X |
| 09:34.54 | AR | manymore: can't remove /tmp/zmanqMDz46: No such file or directory |
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| 09:35.18 | AR | sorry |
| 09:35.45 | carthik | dondelelcaro, sorry to bug you so -- but is there a way I can stop using apt-get and start using aptitude as though i had been using it from the very beginning. I am in the process of finishing my installation, so it is not too late. |
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| 09:37.07 | AR | where i can find solve the proble? |
| 09:37.22 | AR | distrib: Debian etch |
| 09:37.45 | G400 | carthik:no ... aptitude has a feature whereby it remembers what packages were installed as automatic dependencies of packages specifically installed from within aptitude. But otherwise, you will be fine to just change to aptitude, which you should do, IMO |
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| 09:40.05 | dondelelcaro | carthik: just start using it right away. |
| 09:40.38 | konfuzed | crap my firefox keeps choking |
| 09:40.40 | carthik | dondelelcaro, G400 thanks a lot for all the help. Viva Debian! :) |
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| 09:42.07 | AR | Help... |
| 09:44.21 | kaitlyn | Hello, what is the command to change the volume in a shell for debian 3.1 stable? (aumix, and alsamixer don't seem to be there). |
| 09:44.38 | drac | kaitlyn: apt-get install alsa-utils or was that alsa-tools |
| 09:44.43 | tarzeau | kaitlyn: linux? |
| 09:44.45 | drac | kaitlyn: to get alsamixer |
| 09:45.05 | kaitlyn | tarzeau: No, I'm on Windows. |
| 09:45.14 | Eulex | and (s)he'd probably need alsa-base too |
| 09:45.42 | Eulex | ah, alsa-utils depends on alsa-base |
| 09:45.43 | tarzeau | kaitlyn: it could've been also debian gnu/hurd or debian gnu/kfreebsd |
| 09:46.03 | tarzeau | ok not so with stable |
| 09:46.19 | tarzeau | but with stable you should be able to install aumix anyway |
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| 09:46.54 | cospt | After apt-get upgrade yesterday, I cannot start KDE, I use Etch and get this error: kdeinit: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden |
| 09:47.02 | cospt | Is there any knon fix yet? :( |
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| 09:47.27 | kaitlyn | Hmmm, neither alsa-utils, alsa-mixer, or aumix are in the repos. |
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| 09:48.04 | cospt | Anyone? :\ |
| 09:48.10 | Eulex | kaitlyn, apt-cache policy alsa-utils && apt-cache policy aumix? |
| 09:48.11 | tarzeau | cospt: #debian-kde |
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| 09:48.36 | tarzeau | !BTS |
| 09:48.37 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 09:48.55 | kaitlyn | E: Invalid operation policy |
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| 09:49.14 | Eulex | kaitlyn, apt-cache, not apt-get |
| 09:49.39 | Eulex | kaitlyn, and use pastebin to paste |
| 09:50.58 | G400 | ok, my fonts - screenshot of anti-aliased Verdana 12-point - file size circa 200K - http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=2/4903482860.png&s=x4 |
| 09:51.23 | kaitlyn | http://pastebin.com/562428 |
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| 09:54.51 | carthik | dondelelcaro, just so we know: there is no config option in aptitude to install suggested packages -- there is only one to keep packages from being removed if they are "suggested" by some other package. |
| 09:55.00 | Eulex | kaitlyn, that explains it. you haven't got any proper debian binary apt source. try adding 'deb ftp://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib'. btw, do you really want to run unstable? doesn't seem you have the knowledge needed. if in doubt, add 'deb ftp://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib' instead. |
| 09:56.53 | Eulex | G400, try #debian-kde. |
| 09:57.17 | kaitlyn | Eulex: I don't want to run unstable. I'm a complete newbie to Debian (Though I've been running Gentoo as my main OS for a number of years, and redhat before that). |
| 09:57.33 | dondelelcaro | carthik: hrm... I must have remembered Suggests-Important doing that for some reason; in any case, for every package you see, you can trivially install and see which packages are suggested. |
| 09:57.36 | G400 | Eulex: The problem isn't really specific to kde - it occurs everywhere that I run X |
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| 09:58.17 | Eulex | kaitlyn, fyi, sid is unstable, etch is testing, and sarge is stable. |
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| 09:59.10 | carthik | dondelelcaro, aptitude search ~i~Bsuggests --> that tells me all the suggests :) |
| 09:59.20 | kaitlyn | Eulex: I didn't know that, thanks. ^_^ |
| 09:59.39 | kaitlyn | And that repo helped. Thanks! |
| 10:00.47 | Eulex | kaitlyn, you should probably change 'deb-src ftp://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib' to 'deb-src ftp://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib', too. |
| 10:02.14 | Eulex | kaitlyn, yw :) |
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| 10:03.32 | G400 | Do people at least agree that I have a problem? I'm only talking about my fonts, here ;-) |
| 10:04.04 | liable | heh |
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| 10:05.04 | Eulex | G400, anyway, about the fonts: it's a little hard to see when the screenshot is scaled doen |
| 10:05.07 | Eulex | *down |
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| 10:05.18 | dondelelcaro | carthik: right; you can also see them using the curses GUI if you want |
| 10:05.40 | usn | good morning |
| 10:05.46 | G400 | OK, this is a 1280x1024 screenshot |
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| 10:06.20 | Eulex | G400, it would be enough with just a part of it. |
| 10:07.05 | daniel^^_ | I recently did a full upgrade on my Debian testing, and suddenly X can't find my mouse. "no core pointer" fatal error: couldn't initalize core devices" are the errors I recieve. |
| 10:07.15 | G400 | Eulex: Hmmm ... first time I've used scrot, and I have no picture-cropping experience. |
| 10:07.51 | daniel^^_ | I have tried to cat the devices.. but they dont exist. however it's echoed that I plug in the device into the usb. |
| 10:07.52 | G400 | ok, scrot -s looks like the ticket |
| 10:07.58 | Eulex | G400, open up the picture in gimp, select and area you want, copy it, retrieve -> paste as new, save :) |
| 10:08.19 | Eulex | s/and/sn/ |
| 10:08.23 | Eulex | grr |
| 10:08.28 | Eulex | s/sn/an/ |
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| 10:09.46 | liable | !test |
| 10:09.46 | dpkg | No, liable, you're not online any more. |
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| 10:11.53 | daniel^^_ | If its hard to answer, could someone just be my eyes and ears on the internet. I have a hard time searching with lynx. ^^ google had many articles, but didnt get so close to a proper answer |
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| 10:12.06 | ye_old | hi, can one easily just change from sarge to etch? I mean is it only the change of some entries in the sources.list? --> installing testing packages == using etch? |
| 10:12.17 | daniel^^_ | ye_old: yeah |
| 10:12.29 | ye_old | okies, thx |
| 10:12.34 | Eulex | ye_old, yes, but you need to dist-upgrade |
| 10:12.55 | daniel^^_ | ye_old: change to testing and update,upgrade,dist-upgrade |
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| 10:13.02 | ye_old | ah, ok, so I can't mix up echt/sid/sarge repos? |
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| 10:13.11 | liable | daniel^^_: you have udev? try searching bts. |
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| 10:13.14 | Andy298 | i have this error in my /var/log/mail.log file.... "Feb 19 10:10:41 webserver postfix/qmgr[4354]: warning: connect to transport smtp-amavis: Connection refused" I am unable to connect to the server either, any tips? |
| 10:13.18 | Eulex | ye_old, you could, but it's asking for trouble. |
| 10:13.47 | liable | gah, xchat is teh sux0r |
| 10:14.01 | holmeh | I want to replace redhat with debian on a running system (yes, I am insane). I want to do this remote, and I have a basic idea about what to do, do you know of anyone who have done this before and documented it? |
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| 10:14.10 | ye_old | it's just some repository (java in ftp.informatik.hu-berlin.de) changed from sarge(what was expected) to etch, and then I began to google :) |
| 10:14.12 | Eulex | ye_old, you can mix some things, but not others. it all depends on the dependencies. |
| 10:14.20 | liable | !debtakover |
| 10:14.27 | ye_old | okies |
| 10:14.37 | liable | !debtakeover |
| 10:14.37 | dpkg | Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin. |
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| 10:14.51 | daniel^^_ | liable: No, it seems like I don't have udev(if the program has the same name) |
| 10:14.53 | liable | holmeh: ^^ |
| 10:15.01 | holmeh | Thank you, liable. :-) |
| 10:15.05 | Andy298 | any idea about the error in mail.log? |
| 10:15.24 | Eulex | ye_old, what's that package at ftp.informatik.hu-berlin.de? |
| 10:15.40 | liable | daniel^^_: strange, you say the /devs arent there? |
| 10:15.58 | ye_old | Eulex, it's /pub/Java/Linux/debian/ sarge non-.free but as said, it changed |
| 10:16.24 | Eulex | ye_old, let me guess, it contains the j2re? |
| 10:16.32 | ye_old | Eulex: exactly |
| 10:16.42 | Eulex | !java-package |
| 10:16.42 | dpkg | java-package is probably a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 10:16.44 | G400 | ok, this is about 16k only. Blurry anti-aliased fonts are driving me crazy. Screenshot of Courier New 12 pt regular in Konsole. http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=2/4904135867.png&s=x4 |
| 10:16.49 | Eulex | ye_old, ^^ |
| 10:17.12 | Eulex | ye_old, you don't need to add a third-party repo for that. |
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| 10:17.29 | ye_old | Eulex: i know, but it's handy :) |
| 10:17.43 | Eulex | ye_old, hmm, ok |
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| 10:18.49 | Eulex | ye_old, but upgrading to etch just because of that thing seems a little overdone to me |
| 10:19.15 | AR | AR Can you help me, i don't red the man : man ls |
| 10:19.16 | ye_old | Eulex: nono, i have several testing packages here (kde3.5.1 eg.) |
| 10:19.23 | AR | Reformatting ls(1), please wait... |
| 10:19.29 | AR | can't execute exec: No such file or directory |
| 10:19.37 | AR | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:19.42 | Eulex | ye_old, ok |
| 10:19.45 | AR | can't remove /tmp/zmanqMDz46: No such file or directory |
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| 10:20.01 | AR | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:20.26 | liable | AR: wild guess really, try touching that file. |
| 10:20.28 | ye_old | Eulex: probably I am already using etch, how could I test that? uname -a doesn't tell it |
| 10:20.30 | Eulex | AR, well, have you got zsoelim, tbl, nroff and pager? and does the exec command in your shell work? |
| 10:20.39 | AR | yes |
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| 10:20.49 | AR | this programms i have |
| 10:21.00 | AR | yes |
| 10:21.06 | daniel^^_ | liable /dev is there, but im confused about what you told me to do. |
| 10:21.15 | Eulex | ye_old, dpkg -l libc6|tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6|grep 500 |
| 10:21.21 | AR | which zsoelim |
| 10:21.21 | AR | /usr/bin/zsoelim |
| 10:21.25 | jetscreamer | cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 10:22.16 | liable | daniel^^_: does /dev/input/mice exist? |
| 10:22.39 | ye_old | sais testing/unstable |
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| 10:23.00 | AR | i try to reinstall packages manpages and man-db, but this don't help |
| 10:23.25 | daniel^^_ | liable: no, I have tried to cat it too. it says "no such device" same goes for /dev/mouse /dev/usb/mice and some other |
| 10:24.03 | jetscreamer | mousedev perhaps |
| 10:24.29 | liable | daniel^^_: man makedev .. MAKEDEV generic or whatever if theres a more specific one (dont have access to man myself atm) |
| 10:24.49 | jetscreamer | modprobe mousedev ? |
| 10:24.56 | jetscreamer | already tried? |
| 10:25.51 | liable | AR: touch /tmp/zmanqMDz46 ?? |
| 10:26.11 | ye_old | I heard the freeze in debian sid is very near, so the packages should be in a good shape, is this trustworthy? :) |
| 10:26.19 | liable | no |
| 10:26.22 | AR | modprobe mousedev && mkdir /dev/input && mknod /dev/input/mice c 13 63 && gpm -t mps2 -m /dev/input/mice |
| 10:26.37 | AR | liable: empty |
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| 10:26.54 | liable | AR: man touch (make the file..) |
| 10:26.55 | Maakuth_ | ye_old, maybe my sarcasm probe is decalibrated yet again, but sid will never be stable |
| 10:27.10 | AR | liable: man don't work :( |
| 10:27.27 | liable | AR: copy what i wrote |
| 10:27.31 | ye_old | Maakuth_: hehe, yeah, i know |
| 10:27.44 | jetscreamer | !blame udev |
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| 10:27.56 | AR | /tmp/zmanqMDz46 - as i think temporary file, when man preprocessing the page |
| 10:28.03 | liable | heh, its sorta behaved itself lately :) |
| 10:28.08 | blame | duh |
| 10:28.14 | jetscreamer | lol sorry |
| 10:28.15 | AR | when i repeat man ls |
| 10:28.40 | AR | tehis file is new: can't remove /tmp/zmanQwtzo0: No such file or directory |
| 10:28.41 | holmeh | liable: Can I trust that script? :P |
| 10:28.43 | holmeh | heheheh. |
| 10:28.55 | liable | holmeh: no idea :) |
| 10:29.18 | holmeh | I will hold you liable |
| 10:29.23 | holmeh | What's your realname so I can sue you? |
| 10:29.26 | liable | bah |
| 10:29.45 | holmeh | I am just kidding anyways. :-) |
| 10:29.58 | AR | command exited with status 65280 - where i can fined the error description |
| 10:30.01 | AR | ? |
| 10:30.12 | AR | *find |
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| 10:30.49 | liable | AR: whats your perms in /tmp? did you extract a deb there or something? |
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| 10:31.32 | AR | drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 4096 Feb 19 13:39 tmp |
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| 10:32.39 | liable | hrm, looks ok. |
| 10:34.42 | AR | i try strace the command such as 'man ls', but i don;t find nothing ... |
| 10:35.29 | AR | thi troubles begins after i upgrade my distributiv ... |
| 10:36.48 | liable | AR: can you use zless on any .gz? |
| 10:37.16 | AR | yes |
| 10:37.43 | ye_old | this is actually a devils circle: you need some package, that has an important update but is unstable or testing, so you have to go there, get all the dependencies and soon you find yourself using unstable and whining about how everything is crashing :D and the best part: you won't get support, because you're using unstable. |
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| 10:38.01 | AR | y can red man pages with mc [F3], or in konqueror [man:/ls] |
| 10:38.14 | Stormtrooper | hey guys. Where can on which kernel is supported by the latest debian distro? |
| 10:38.17 | AR | but this don't usability |
| 10:38.31 | Stormtrooper | where can I read up even. |
| 10:38.36 | liable | AR: check the bts, i have no idea. |
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| 10:38.58 | AR | liable: what is bts? |
| 10:39.03 | Eulex | !bts |
| 10:39.03 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 10:39.22 | Eulex | Stormtrooper, the latest kernel in debian testing and unstable is 2.6.15. |
| 10:39.29 | AR | thnx |
| 10:39.41 | Stormtrooper | Eulex, stable? |
| 10:39.48 | liable | 2.6.8 |
| 10:39.59 | jetscreamer | lots of online manpages too |
| 10:40.03 | liable | but you can install newer kernels..\ |
| 10:40.49 | AR | i install 2.6.15 kernel, and on my pc don't work sound :( |
| 10:41.07 | liable | AR: read your aptitude or dpkg log and look for what may be the culprit. |
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| 10:41.40 | Stormtrooper | hm.. isn't debian stable supposed to bu super-duper tested for robustness? i.e. the kernel included in the stable version, is the super stable/tested one, right? |
| 10:41.51 | jetscreamer | right |
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| 10:41.57 | Eulex | Stormtrooper, yes, stable has 2.6.8 and 2.4.27 |
| 10:41.58 | jetscreamer | with security patches |
| 10:42.04 | liable | many servers say so.. |
| 10:42.28 | AR | liable: when i upgrade distr, i have so much troubles ... |
| 10:42.43 | jetscreamer | i had that manpage problem |
| 10:42.51 | jetscreamer | lemme think |
| 10:43.04 | liable | jetscreamer: fix it!:) |
| 10:43.25 | jetscreamer | did you chown/chmod the tmp dir |
| 10:43.26 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 10:43.35 | jetscreamer | del the zkhfdhsuyt765 file? |
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| 10:44.05 | AR | 2.6.15 kernel use udev system or hotplug? |
| 10:44.12 | jetscreamer | i don't know i can't remember, me and my box have been through 2.5.15 stock + udev hell the past couple weeks |
| 10:44.15 | jetscreamer | both |
| 10:44.22 | AR | hm... |
| 10:44.42 | AR | and when i install udev, hotplug removes ...? |
| 10:45.10 | liable | you are supposed to purge it |
| 10:45.14 | jetscreamer | i think i might have deleted that tmp file and chown either/or my home dir or /tmp |
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| 10:45.25 | jetscreamer | no hotplug stays |
| 10:45.46 | liable | udev replaces hotplug. |
| 10:45.51 | jetscreamer | removing udev will take 2.6.15 and mkinitramfs-tools with it.. unless you install yeaid first |
| 10:45.59 | AR | it is really |
| 10:45.59 | jetscreamer | not 'really' |
| 10:46.05 | jetscreamer | yaird i mean |
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| 10:46.16 | mivecz | packages.debian.org is down at the moment due to performance issues. |
| 10:46.29 | liable | mivecz: /topic |
| 10:46.30 | Eulex | mivecz, /topc |
| 10:46.36 | jetscreamer | there seems to be 2 or 3 different 'flavors' of hotplug though |
| 10:46.41 | liable | !win me |
| 10:46.41 | dpkg | Congratulations, liable! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 10:46.47 | liable | yay |
| 10:46.48 | Eulex | hehe |
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| 10:47.12 | Eulex | spam spam spam, lovely spam :) |
| 10:47.28 | AR | when i use apt-get dist-upgrade... udev not install because i not have kernel 2.6.12, but install 2.6.15 kernel require udev :))))) |
| 10:48.10 | Eulex | AR, reboot a new kernel, then reboot and install udev with the new kernel. |
| 10:48.14 | Eulex | umh |
| 10:48.19 | jetscreamer | AR: it's because 2.6.15 requires an mkinitrd tool, and mkinitramfs is one of them, and it depends on udev. yaird is an alternative, and doesn't depend on udev. |
| 10:48.20 | Eulex | *install* a new kernel |
| 10:48.22 | liable | AR: bugs.debian.org/udev |
| 10:48.29 | jetscreamer | and mkinitramfs is the default |
| 10:48.37 | liable | read up on some of the fun things about udev |
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| 10:48.46 | mivecz | is work ok |
| 10:49.28 | aidan | when I log in, how do I stop it saying "No Mail." |
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| 10:49.45 | jetscreamer | get a friend who will email you? :) |
| 10:49.45 | liable | mail yourself? |
| 10:49.53 | AR | what is better : hotplug or udev? |
| 10:49.55 | aidan | Haha I walked right into that one :( |
| 10:50.05 | jetscreamer | neither |
| 10:50.09 | aidan | how do I turn the mail notification off |
| 10:50.31 | ye_old | aidehua: type: givemail --please --now |
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| 10:51.07 | ye_old | AR: udev/hal/dbus in my opinion |
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| 10:52.11 | jetscreamer | compile your own kernel |
| 10:52.37 | AR | O, a have yetanother question, in my laptop don't work the volume keys in lateral panel... |
| 10:52.41 | jetscreamer | unless you're a compulsive hardware buyer |
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| 10:52.55 | Eulex | AR, xbindkeys or lineakd. |
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| 10:53.12 | jetscreamer | i just can't affordt to be one :( |
| 10:53.33 | AR | Eulex: thnx, i try it |
| 10:53.40 | jetscreamer | i want a cray |
| 10:53.40 | Eulex | AR, yw :) |
| 10:53.42 | ye_old | I've man'ed through the sources.list but it still does not tell me, how i can find out, what sections a server has. I mean, how can I find out if there actually is a section testing/non-us on a specific server? |
| 10:53.53 | liable | AR: what laptop? check tuxmobil.org |
| 10:54.10 | jetscreamer | browse the ftp site |
| 10:54.12 | AR | HP Omnibook 6100 |
| 10:54.22 | liable | !non-us |
| 10:54.23 | dpkg | non-us is, like, where we put software that cannot be distributed from the USA. For woody, use "deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" in sources.list, and deb-src if you want sources. Changes in legislation mean that post-Woody, there is no non-us, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch or Sid. Ask me about "crypto". for the few remaining packages, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/msg01355.html |
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| 10:54.35 | dondelelcaro | ye_old: because the server has the appropriate dists/testing/binary-i386/Release et al.? |
| 10:54.39 | liable | ye_old: non-us is no more.. |
| 10:54.57 | ye_old | it was only an example |
| 10:55.06 | AR | i use some times Mandriva linux, in mandriva this keys work immediately |
| 10:55.12 | liable | bad example! :) |
| 10:55.29 | ye_old | well, but you see my point? :) |
| 10:55.32 | AR | but i don't like mandriva ... |
| 10:55.34 | dondelelcaro | ye_old: the mirror list also lists exactly which architectures each mirror has; almost all mirrors that are listed mirror stable, testing, unstable, and experimental. |
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| 10:56.18 | Eulex | AR, debian is not that automatic. you can get the keys running with xbindkeys or lineakd. |
| 10:56.22 | ye_old | dondelelcaro: ah thanks! |
| 10:56.25 | jetscreamer | mozilla ftp.someserver.org |
| 10:56.55 | jetscreamer | !adulate dondelelcaro |
| 10:56.57 | SimonRaven | spend more time making up gimmicks than working on the os ... |
| 10:57.09 | AR | Eulex: i know, thnx on the help , and sorry on my english |
| 10:57.11 | AR | :) |
| 10:57.16 | jetscreamer | :( |
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| 11:01.08 | SimonRaven | can you believe this? *right* now, it's -17, with a wind chill of -26; tomorrow, it's shooting up to -7 - last week was worse, had rain, some snow, then deep freeze ... |
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| 11:02.31 | jetscreamer | it's like 40 here, unbelieveable... |
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| 11:04.15 | SimonRaven | thhat's in C |
| 11:04.54 | SimonRaven | !c to f -27 |
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| 11:05.18 | gigabytes | hi all |
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| 11:05.39 | gigabytes | what about xorg 7.0 in debian? |
| 11:05.54 | SimonRaven | it's called patience |
| 11:06.07 | gigabytes | ok... |
| 11:06.51 | SimonRaven | XSF is working on it |
| 11:07.06 | jetscreamer | ugh |
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| 11:07.30 | jetscreamer | i find 40F cold |
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| 11:08.36 | SimonRaven | g'night jetscreamer |
| 11:09.14 | coolpix | lo |
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| 11:09.52 | ye_old | hm, what is sarge/volatile? why isn't there a place to lookup what all these expressions mean :I |
| 11:10.23 | SimonRaven | www.debian.org |
| 11:10.39 | Eulex | ye_old, things that needs updating frequently, like virus definitions for clamav |
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| 11:11.36 | cospt | Anyone ever get this? It is not even on google: kdeinit: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden |
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| 11:21.10 | lilian | brasil |
| 11:21.30 | Eulex | !br |
| 11:21.30 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 11:30.27 | phycho | hey guys |
| 11:30.31 | phycho | is there a php5 for debian yet? |
| 11:30.32 | hyksos | hi, i have installed wine, after starting xwine and "launch" the .exe it showed me that it has created a link named "CD ..." but i cannot find it? it seemed it is not installed? |
| 11:30.32 | phycho | ; |
| 11:30.33 | phycho | ;/ |
| 11:30.42 | phycho | i need php5 module for apache |
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| 11:31.14 | liable | phycho: not for sarge, check backports |
| 11:31.23 | phycho | k |
| 11:32.35 | Eulex | hyksos, check ~/.wine/dosdevices |
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| 11:35.21 | hyksos | Eulex :what should i check there |
| 11:36.21 | hyksos | Eulex :notepad is there in, but not mine, or in a special dir? |
| 11:36.55 | hyksos | Eulex :there is c: d: z: |
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| 11:40.49 | Dimension | brb |
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| 11:41.57 | aphexer | When I run gnome firefox and other programs display text pretty well, but when i use fluxbox it's quite blurry, less charp etc, how can i fix this? or what causes this? |
| 11:42.01 | liable | notepad? |
| 11:42.43 | Eulex | hyksos, those files specify where where wine should find the different drives on your system. for example, what c:, d: and z: should contain |
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| 11:44.43 | Eulex | aphexer, dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig; choose native or autohinter depending on what fonts you use. with the default fonts in debian, the native one is the best one. |
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| 11:45.08 | moi1392 | hello, I have a problem with a chroot : the proc partition doesn't mount automatically and I have to mount it manually every reboot |
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| 11:45.36 | moi1392 | I run debian sid on a 64 bits system and the chroot was set to run 32 bits applications |
| 11:45.52 | Arnald | Is there going to be a SeaMonkey package for Debian? |
| 11:46.43 | moi1392 | It worked well some times ago but I don't use it since 3 or 4 month, so I don't know when the breakage occur :( |
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| 11:49.23 | aphexer | Eulex, do i need to restart X, or just the app to have it in effect? i got this error though from dpkg: not replacing deleted configfile /etc/fonts/local.conf |
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| 11:50.57 | crypt_ex | Does anyone know how I can find out if my NIC is running at 100Mbs rather than 10Mbs? Trying to eliminate this server from the equation. |
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| 11:52.19 | petemc | crypt_ex: ethtool |
| 11:52.34 | crypt_ex | thanks mate |
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| 11:54.32 | mivecz | HEllo can i installed debian with kde to built as i like |
| 11:54.33 | mivecz | ? |
| 11:54.39 | crypt_ex | petemc, man ethtool isnt much help and when I execute ethtool eth0 no data is available? |
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| 11:55.17 | crypt_ex | mivecz, you can install Debian and you can install KDE and configure to your liking. Do you mean you want to build KDE yourself though? |
| 11:55.39 | jonaskoelker | question: on my box, auctex version 11.82-1 (current in testing) doesn't seem to respect font-latex-sedate-face. Has anyone else had the same experience? |
| 11:55.40 | ootput | hi guys, how many init scripts are automatically installed when one apt-get's gnome? |
| 11:56.25 | prp | hello, i have a problem with a box, i got "sda: Current: sense key: Medium Error" EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block - inode=4178415, block=8355862 Remounting filesystem read-only could this be a software problem ? hdd is 3 months old |
| 11:56.29 | mivecz | no i want to have kde |
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| 11:56.36 | mivecz | ready |
| 11:56.54 | Eulex | mivecz, just apt-get install kde. |
| 11:57.00 | crypt_ex | mivecz, that'll be fine, just install Debian with X etc |
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| 11:57.33 | Golito | mivecz, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/324 |
| 11:57.43 | Eulex | !install kde |
| 11:57.44 | dpkg | somebody said install kde was In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
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| 11:58.19 | jonaskoelker | (no bug title in DBS seems to address this issue, so I'm trying to figure out whether or not this is a bug) |
| 12:00.15 | mivecz | where to download to start debian |
| 12:00.21 | Eulex | !d-i mivecz |
| 12:00.22 | dpkg | mivecz, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 12:00.35 | jonaskoelker | Okay, so let me try in a different ways: please raise your hand if you use auctex 11.82-1 and have *not* had problems w. it not respecting font-latex-sedate-face |
| 12:00.43 | jonaskoelker | s/ways/way |
| 12:00.53 | mivecz | wich one |
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| 12:01.37 | mivecz | wich one? |
| 12:01.43 | mivecz | which one? |
| 12:01.51 | jonaskoelker | mivecz: what do you mean by "which one?" |
| 12:02.02 | mivecz | which packet i download |
| 12:02.29 | jonaskoelker | do you have a good internet conneection? |
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| 12:03.29 | jonaskoelker | ... hmm.. I actually don't know what's best for you, but I'm guessing either netinst or full CD set. |
| 12:03.52 | mivecz | yes |
| 12:04.02 | mivecz | fulll cd |
| 12:04.15 | mivecz | is come with kde |
| 12:04.15 | peterksk | hello there, can somebody helps me with woody and X? |
| 12:04.27 | jonaskoelker | hmm... I think you'd want to download and burn the first two or three CDs, and then grab the rest from the net as you need it. |
| 12:05.11 | jonaskoelker | mivecz: the advantage of the netinst is that you download less up front (esp. less of the things you don't need), and defer the download to when you need the things you don't haveo |
| 12:05.39 | jonaskoelker | mivecz: the downside is that you'll probably need it when your computer is in a not-so-entertaining state. |
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| 12:06.19 | mivecz | net installed come with lib files needed to tar smt and etc |
| 12:06.20 | mivecz | ? |
| 12:06.26 | mivecz | mqk smt |
| 12:06.28 | aidan | how do I make sure apache2 is loaded when I reboot? where are the run-level folder things |
| 12:06.35 | jonaskoelker | that is, if you download some of binaries CDs, you can still use your computer while you download. You can, too, w. netinst, but only if you know which applications you need, and they don't require X. |
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| 12:07.39 | jonaskoelker | mivecz: I haven't used netinst--I used floppies :)--but it only came with the very bare bones, which is really the *point* of that method (I assume netinst is somewhat similar) |
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| 12:08.04 | jonaskoelker | mivecz: but iirc, the boot floppies had tar and (at least) gunzip |
| 12:08.05 | dannyp | jonaskoelker: floppies? what's a floppy? |
| 12:08.11 | jonaskoelker | dannyp: :D |
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| 12:08.42 | jonaskoelker | dannyp: you know, those soft brown 5.25''-by-5.25'' thingies :) |
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| 12:09.20 | jonaskoelker | dannyp: you know, the more modern version of the paper-tape-by-snail-mail installer :P |
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| 12:10.12 | jonaskoelker | oh well, irony is lost on some people ^_^ |
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| 12:10.25 | jonaskoelker | anyways, I'm out. |
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| 12:12.51 | peterksk | i have a probleeeeeeeem |
| 12:13.00 | m4lu6 | what a pity |
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| 12:13.30 | peterksk | i can not run X.. |
| 12:13.59 | blondie | why not? |
| 12:14.26 | m4lu6 | broken leg |
| 12:14.32 | blondie | lol |
| 12:14.39 | peterksk | "no screens found"... i know, how to configure X with xf86config, but... |
| 12:14.50 | m4lu6 | but ... "elipsis"? |
| 12:16.02 | peterksk | but here it is not correct..and i do not know why... |
| 12:16.26 | m4lu6 | man, you love that elipisis |
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| 12:21.49 | aidan | how do I make sure apache2 is loaded when I reboot? where are the run-level folder things? |
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| 12:21.54 | HugLeo | how |
| 12:22.38 | vulture | aidan: Unless you broke something, Debian will already be setup that way. |
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| 12:22.49 | aidan | vulture: how can I check? |
| 12:23.06 | blondie | ps -ef |grep apache |
| 12:23.16 | aidan | nothing |
| 12:23.16 | blondie | or load a browser :P |
| 12:23.30 | ledet | aidan: how did you install apache? |
| 12:23.33 | blondie | /etc/init.d/apache2 start ? |
| 12:23.35 | aidan | apt-get install apache2 |
| 12:23.39 | m4lu6 | aidan, etc/rc*.d |
| 12:23.40 | aidan | where are the runlevel scripts thoguh? |
| 12:23.49 | vulture | aidan: if you'd really like, RTFM for update-rc.d |
| 12:23.52 | aidan | ah cool |
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| 12:27.28 | aidan | what does Feb 19 14:01:33 srv02 -- MARK -- mean in var/log/messages? |
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| 12:30.13 | ye_old | hi all, since my last dist-upgrade I receive "could not start kdeinit,check your installation" after logging into kde, but when I click ok, it all works fine and kde starts up. I am now using debian etch, maybe I got some packages that are unstable and others are testing, could I FORCE eg. qt related packages to be "on the same niveau"? |
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| 12:30.49 | Eulex | aidan, it's adding those marks a little now and then, so you can see when a computer hung if it did hung. other than that, it has no meaning. |
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| 12:30.58 | aidan | Eulex: ah cool |
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| 12:31.31 | ye_old | wow, now kopete crashed without an error message *g |
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| 12:31.54 | aidan | okay, so apache is there in the runlevel scripts, the reason it hadn't started was the php_value commands breaking the config. I've done apt-get install php, do I have to manually enable it in apache still? |
| 12:31.56 | Eulex | ye_old, not really, but you can check where you got a package from with apt-cache policy. |
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| 12:33.17 | mtance- | hi |
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| 12:33.21 | Eulex | aidan, installing the php4 package (if that's what you did) installs the php4 package for apache 1 by default. apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 12:33.25 | ice_1963 | ye_old:are you running etch or sarge? |
| 12:33.32 | mtance- | i have problem |
| 12:33.34 | ye_old | Eulex: it's only one mirror besides 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status release a=now: 500 ftp://mirror.switch.ch testing/main |
| 12:33.55 | mtance- | how i change root password ? |
| 12:34.05 | drac | mtance-: passwd |
| 12:34.10 | mtance- | thx |
| 12:34.20 | aidan | Eulex: I'm using the backports :/ |
| 12:34.20 | ye_old | ice_1963: updated from sarge to etch, i use only one mirror to locate the problem, see above. |
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| 12:35.15 | Eulex | aidan, ah |
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| 12:35.55 | Eulex | ye_old, well, it will show you where you got the packages from. |
| 12:36.07 | ice_1963 | do a fresh install with etch :0) |
| 12:36.15 | felipe_linux | Hi... any one knows when packages.debian.org will be back? |
| 12:36.40 | ice_1963 | that's what i did |
| 12:36.44 | Eulex | felipe_linux, no, use pdo.debian.net in the meanwhile |
| 12:36.53 | mtance- | my second problem is: somebody has make shell how i remove |
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| 12:37.22 | mtance- | what is command for look userlist |
| 12:37.27 | aidan | libapache2-mod-php5 I think |
| 12:37.46 | felipe_linux | it worked :-) |
| 12:38.11 | mtance- | anybody know? |
| 12:38.12 | Eulex | aidan, anyway, you should be able to run a2enmod php5 to enable it. |
| 12:38.20 | ye_old | Eulex: yes, i know, but do i have to seek every package and test, if it's a testing release? well I'm googling around a bit |
| 12:38.35 | Eulex | mtance-, maybe, if you can make yourself understood. |
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| 12:39.40 | ye_old | mtance- somebody has make shell how i remove <-- someone opened a shell? |
| 12:39.49 | mtance- | no |
| 12:39.56 | mtance- | somebody killall5 |
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| 12:40.08 | mtance- | and then pc chrashed |
| 12:40.11 | aidan | yay, that worked Eulex (the apt-get install mod-php-etc) |
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| 12:40.31 | mtance- | how i look list of users |
| 12:40.34 | Eulex | aidan, :) |
| 12:40.54 | ye_old | mtance-: users ? |
| 12:40.57 | mtance- | yes |
| 12:40.59 | Eulex | mtance-, currently logged in or al users that exist? |
| 12:41.00 | mtance- | root .. |
| 12:41.04 | mtance- | exist |
| 12:41.09 | ye_old | mtance-: that was the answer: "users" |
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| 12:41.58 | mtance- | becouse somebody was login with a-b-x.be |
| 12:42.07 | mtance- | how i ban him or somethink |
| 12:42.30 | Eulex | mtance-, to see all users that exists on the system, look in /etc/passwd. |
| 12:42.39 | mtance- | aa |
| 12:42.41 | mtance- | ok |
| 12:42.42 | mtance- | ty |
| 12:42.46 | Eulex | mtance-, how was (s)he able to log in? |
| 12:42.50 | ye_old | mtance-: maybe under /etc/group ? |
| 12:42.57 | mtance- | Eulex |
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| 12:43.04 | mtance- | i don`t know |
| 12:43.12 | mtance- | i think with root |
| 12:43.19 | mtance- | now i change root pass |
| 12:43.20 | Eulex | mtance-, you could look in /var/log/auth.log. |
| 12:43.25 | mtance- | ok |
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| 12:44.10 | mtance- | bash: ./auth.log: Permission denied |
| 12:44.12 | mtance- | :S |
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| 12:44.36 | drac | haha |
| 12:44.39 | ye_old | hehe |
| 12:44.43 | drac | mtance-: It's not executable. |
| 12:44.44 | Golito | mtance-, less /var/log/auth.log |
| 12:44.45 | HugLeo | mtance-, chmod +x auth.log |
| 12:44.50 | drac | HugLeo: LOL |
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| 12:44.51 | ye_old | HugLeo: lol |
| 12:45.29 | mtance- | bash: ./auth.log: Text file busy |
| 12:45.30 | mtance- | :S |
| 12:45.37 | Golito | mtance-, less /var/log/auth.log |
| 12:45.44 | mtance- | ok |
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| 12:46.12 | aidan | how do I stop the onlogin mail notification stuff? |
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| 12:47.16 | mtance- | ok |
| 12:47.22 | mtance- | i do it |
| 12:47.22 | mtance- | :) |
| 12:47.25 | ye_old | okay, is there a way to check for dependency problems on all packages installed? i seem to have a version-conflict in qt |
| 12:47.50 | Huey | what's the fastest way to transfer files over a local network? scp seems to only utilize 6 Mb/s on a 100 mbit lan, and nfs seems even slower |
| 12:48.09 | blondie | not scp |
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| 12:48.31 | blondie | rsync (not over ssh) |
| 12:48.34 | lesshaste | can any tell me what errors like this mean (from dmesg) |
| 12:48.36 | blondie | or tar | netcat |
| 12:48.42 | lesshaste | APIC error on CPU0: 04(40) |
| 12:48.42 | lesshaste | time.c: Lost 13 timer tick(s)! rip 0x823d49b) |
| 12:48.42 | lesshaste | time.c: Lost 15 timer tick(s)! rip default_idle+0x36/0x80) |
| 12:48.43 | ledet | or ftp |
| 12:48.45 | mtance- | where i find all commands for console ? |
| 12:48.57 | Eulex | mtance-, <tab><tab> :) |
| 12:49.04 | mtance- | :D |
| 12:49.11 | ye_old | wow, didn't know that there was a www.google.com/linux |
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| 12:49.44 | Eulex | mtance-, you can also search descriptions of the man pages with man -k keyword |
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| 12:49.53 | mtance- | ok |
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| 12:50.19 | mtance- | Last login: Sun Feb 19 12:45:25 2006 from a-b-x.be |
| 12:50.40 | mtance- | how i "ban" him |
| 12:50.50 | mtance- | :D |
| 12:51.02 | Eulex | very much depends on how he managed to log in. |
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| 12:51.09 | Eulex | check auth.log and the syslog. |
| 12:51.17 | mtance- | only this? |
| 12:51.23 | MrFluffkins | Greetings. I've updated my system to debian (sarge amd64) and I have some serious issues with executing stuff. When I try to runa binary that I didn't compile myself (I think) I just get "No such file or directory". Tried installing rar support and opera among other stuff, I can dpkg the opera just fine with --force-architecture but when I try to execute the binary it makes I get that error. Anyone has any idea what's up? Is the am |
| 12:51.24 | MrFluffkins | problem? |
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| 12:51.30 | mtance- | ok |
| 12:51.39 | mtance- | i will check |
| 12:51.40 | mtance- | bye |
| 12:51.58 | HugLeo | :) |
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| 12:52.28 | ringo999 | hi there. |
| 12:53.02 | ringo999 | i just connected my digital camera via usb to debian for the first time...how can i access it? |
| 12:53.05 | ringo999 | im using kde |
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| 12:53.24 | Eulex | ringo999, fdisk -l -- does it appear in the list? |
| 12:53.29 | ringo999 | in the kde infocenter it shows up under usb devices |
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| 12:53.56 | Eulex | ringo999, if it does, you can mount it. otherwise, use gphoto2 (it's not a gnome app despite its name) |
| 12:53.59 | bananafly | lo. does anyone here have a HP Pavillion with a recovery partition? |
| 12:54.05 | Brainwalker | y0 |
| 12:54.20 | ringo999 | Eulex: it does |
| 12:54.37 | ringo999 | Eulex: so how do i mount again? mount ... |
| 12:54.51 | ringo999 | Eulex: why doesnt KDE automatically mount it? |
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| 12:54.56 | Eulex | ringo999, what file system? |
| 12:55.01 | ringo999 | fat16 |
| 12:55.06 | Eulex | ringo999, I don't know, I'm not a kde user |
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| 12:55.12 | Eulex | ringo999, man mount. also: |
| 12:55.14 | Eulex | !vfatrw |
| 12:55.14 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux).. |
| 12:55.15 | ringo999 | Eulex: yeah, but does gnome do it? |
| 12:55.29 | Eulex | ringo999, I don't know, I'm not a gnome user either. |
| 12:55.37 | ringo999 | Eulex: what do you use :D |
| 12:55.40 | Eulex | ringo999, xfce |
| 12:55.55 | ringo999 | Eulex: yeah i heard about that, need to try it some time |
| 12:56.34 | andisoftman | i tried to change the hostname and domainname of my debian box, however now i cant change it back, it seems stuck as "127.0.0.1 adsl.brightview.com adsl", i have tried editing hosts and using the hostname/domainname commands, but when i reboot it stays the same, is there something i am missing here? |
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| 12:57.15 | Golito | !hostname |
| 12:57.15 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
| 12:57.20 | crypt_ex | Does anyone know how I can find out if my NIC is running at 100Mbs rather than 10Mbs? Trying to eliminate this server from the equation. Ethtool does not display anything, states unavailable. |
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| 12:58.11 | drac | Question. Samba works fine here, on server i've just gained root but logs are filled with this: http://pastebin.com/562552 , I couldn't find a thing wrong in configs , any hints ? |
| 12:58.11 | Eulex | ringo999, do that, it'll be worth it. and the next upcoming release of xfce, 4.4, will be great. it will have a brand new file manager, a rewritten panel, desktop icons, and many other things. |
| 12:58.12 | ice_1963 | all you got to do is use your mouse right clik it and go to mount that's it for kde |
| 12:58.30 | ringo999 | ice_1963: ok |
| 12:58.37 | ice_1963 | :o) |
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| 12:58.52 | DaBPunkt | Hello |
| 12:59.22 | ringo999 | but ice_1963: do i always have to run fdisk -l to see which device it is? |
| 12:59.48 | ice_1963 | nop |
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| 13:00.37 | ncp- | i'm new at linux, and want to burn a .iso to a cd, what program is easy to use? |
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| 13:00.49 | ringo999 | ice_1963: but how do i know which dev it is then? |
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| 13:00.58 | vulture | ncp-: cdrecord's easy enough |
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| 13:01.32 | ncp- | vulture: what app should i use? |
| 13:01.34 | Golito | ncp-, if you are using KDE use k3b, if GNOME ,gnomebaker, or just cdrecord |
| 13:01.43 | ncp- | ok thanks |
| 13:01.55 | ye_old | hm, is it a bad thing, if /opt and /var/opt/ are empty? |
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| 13:03.47 | Firebird2 | anyone know how to boot to gnome? |
| 13:04.17 | raf256[laptop] | Firebird2: in gdm/kdm - where you are asked for password (in X) click on change the windows manager |
| 13:04.18 | ye_old | nice X.err output: heyho! heyho! heyho! heyho! heyho! |
| 13:04.21 | raf256[laptop] | or seession |
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| 13:04.31 | ice_1963 | ringo999:you can use storage media |
| 13:04.36 | Firebird2 | um raf256[laptop] im in console |
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| 13:04.51 | raf256[laptop] | I dont know.... but why not use gdm |
| 13:05.02 | \amethyst | Firebird2: make sure the gdm package is installed, then do echo /usr/bin/gdm > /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 13:05.06 | Firebird2 | when u install debian it doesn't install gnome |
| 13:05.17 | raf256[laptop] | apt-get install gdm |
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| 13:05.40 | ice_1963 | if your running etch |
| 13:05.59 | \amethyst | you might want to install gnome-desktop-environment to get a full gnome setup |
| 13:06.13 | \amethyst | that's a lot of packages, though |
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| 13:06.44 | Pupeno | Hello. |
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| 13:06.59 | HugLeo | hi |
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| 13:07.23 | HugLeo | Pupeno, How are you? |
| 13:07.35 | Pupeno | HugLeo: I am fine, thanks. |
| 13:07.55 | Firebird2 | \amethyst: how do i know it worked? |
| 13:08.06 | Pupeno | HugLeo: and you ? |
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| 13:08.23 | HugLeo | Pupeno, too |
| 13:08.31 | Pupeno | Are there some public reserver IPs for documentation (the same as example.{org|com|net}) ? |
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| 13:10.02 | dannyp | public reserver IP? |
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| 13:11.34 | hyksos | when i want to start at bootup a module it put its name into /etc/modules, but when the module needs some options while inserting, where do i write them down? into /etc/modprobe.d/ directory, but in which way? create a file named as the module and write down into it options hisax type=18 protocol=2 ? thanks for help |
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| 13:11.49 | Firebird2 | anyone know how to make the system boot gnome? |
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| 13:12.14 | hyksos | Firebird2 :you got kdm or gdm or xdm? |
| 13:12.20 | Firebird2 | tgdm |
| 13:12.26 | Firebird2 | gdm |
| 13:12.34 | hyksos | couldnt you choose there before login? |
| 13:12.55 | Firebird2 | the default install of debian installed a console only |
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| 13:13.10 | \amethyst | hyksos: exactly what you suggest |
| 13:13.13 | hyksos | Firebird2 : you haven't installed it yet? |
| 13:13.21 | Firebird2 | i installed gdm |
| 13:13.25 | hyksos | \amethyst :with the modules? |
| 13:13.35 | hyksos | Firebird2 :you got x running? |
| 13:13.40 | Firebird2 | no |
| 13:13.58 | hyksos | Firebird2 : install x-window-system then run ./startx |
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| 13:14.15 | Firebird2 | hyksos: do u mean xorg |
| 13:14.16 | \amethyst | hyksos: yes. Create a file with any name in /etc/modprobe.d/, and add the line you indicated |
| 13:14.32 | hyksos | no thats xfree86, if you want xorg server, then you need unstable |
| 13:14.42 | hyksos | theres xserver-xorg |
| 13:15.01 | \amethyst | hyksos: actually, probably the best is to put it in /etc/modprobe.d/local |
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| 13:15.31 | hyksos | \amethyst :i got no local , so i create it? and this one-liner is enough? |
| 13:15.37 | \amethyst | hyksos: yes |
| 13:15.39 | Firebird2 | it can't find xorg |
| 13:15.41 | \amethyst | hyksos: and yes |
| 13:15.47 | hyksos | \amethyst ok i try |
| 13:15.56 | hyksos | Firebird2 :you run unstable? |
| 13:16.01 | \amethyst | hyksos: assuming those are the correct module name and options, of course |
| 13:16.01 | Firebird2 | no |
| 13:16.16 | Firebird2 | how do i get xrg |
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| 13:17.22 | hyksos | Firebird2 :put into /etc/apt/sources... unstable instead of stable, then apt-get update, then you use unstable sources |
| 13:17.31 | drac | !tell Firebird2 about xorg sarge |
| 13:17.33 | drac | !tell Firebird2 about xorg |
| 13:18.01 | hyksos | !tell hyksos about xorg |
| 13:19.14 | \amethyst | hyksos: you can do /msg dpkg xorg |
| 13:19.19 | ye_old | !tell me about fairytales |
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| 13:19.57 | ye_old | !tell dpkg about recursion |
| 13:20.12 | ye_old | :) sorry |
| 13:20.14 | tziku | hello, i want to manage mysql database from windows (not on web). Can someboy tell me a name of a software ? |
| 13:20.21 | hyksos | \amethyst : i know xorg, i run it on one machine, because of some intel chips that arent supported by xfree86 |
| 13:20.58 | hyksos | tziku :then you need windows programs, ask that windows people, or? |
| 13:21.23 | Firebird2 | now wat |
| 13:21.27 | tziku | hyksos and on linux server what to install to have acces on sql database ? |
| 13:21.28 | Firebird2 | i got into xserver gnome |
| 13:21.40 | Firebird2 | but how do i set it so it boots auto |
| 13:21.59 | Firebird2 | brb |
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| 13:22.44 | hyksos | tziku :sql database |
| 13:23.59 | hyksos | tziku :i think to 99% db's are not only there to access from localhost, so they got well programm network interfaces |
| 13:23.59 | tziku | hyksos i have i software for windows i add server adress user and password and can't connect :( |
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| 13:24.08 | Firebird2 | ok |
| 13:24.16 | hyksos | tziku : is the db running? |
| 13:24.29 | Pupeno | reserved. |
| 13:24.29 | hyksos | tziku :ps aux|grep sql |
| 13:24.30 | tziku | yes...wait i quess localhost is the problem |
| 13:24.34 | Pupeno | Are there some public reserved IPs for documentation (the same as example.{org|com|net}) ? |
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| 13:24.49 | Firebird2 | i can't change my resolution to 1024x768 why? |
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| 13:24.55 | hyksos | Pupeno:.xxx |
| 13:25.08 | Phated | Heh. |
| 13:25.10 | hyksos | Firebird2 :perhaps old graphiccard |
| 13:25.12 | Pupeno | hyksos: mh ? what do you mean ? |
| 13:25.14 | Phated | example.com :) |
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| 13:25.27 | Phated | a.b.c.d? |
| 13:25.29 | Firebird2 | hyksos, my graphics card is quite new |
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| 13:25.53 | hyksos | Firebird2 : vi /etc/X11/XF86-Config-4 and change it there |
| 13:25.58 | hyksos | Firebird2 :then restart x |
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| 13:26.18 | hyksos | how can i check with which options some modules are loaded? |
| 13:26.23 | \amethyst | I think Pupeno means actual real numbers, that are guaranteed not to be an address (like 555 phone numbers in the US, not like 192.168/16) |
| 13:26.41 | \amethyst | s/real/integer/ :/ |
| 13:26.47 | Firebird2 | hyksos, that file is blank |
| 13:26.48 | Pupeno | \amethyst: exactly. |
| 13:26.59 | Pupeno | a.b.c.d is not an IP. |
| 13:27.00 | Phated | I see. |
| 13:27.13 | hyksos | Firebird2 :you are using TAB to complete the dir names? |
| 13:27.16 | Phated | 256.256.256.256 ;) |
| 13:27.17 | drac | hyksos: Recommending "hard" to use editor, with a non existant filename .. real nice ;) |
| 13:27.37 | \amethyst | vi isn't hard to use |
| 13:27.40 | drac | Firebird2: nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (or xorg.conf) |
| 13:27.43 | \amethyst | ed is hard to use |
| 13:27.45 | drac | \amethyst: for a newb it is. |
| 13:27.48 | Phated | It's /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 anyway :) |
| 13:27.50 | \amethyst | the is hard to use :) |
| 13:27.52 | hyksos | drac: thanks :) |
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| 13:28.40 | \amethyst | gvim then :P |
| 13:28.48 | chrisk | How do I rename every occurance of "-" should be replaced with " - " (Empty space before and after the minus sign) in multiple file names? |
| 13:29.24 | schurro | hi guys, how can i extract a file that is > 2Gb when extracted? |
| 13:29.29 | \amethyst | chrisk: for x in *; do mv "$x" "$(echo $x | sed 's/-/ - /g')"; done |
| 13:29.30 | war92 | Its official, Debian Etch breaks KDEINIT, at least for the few people who upgrades and rebooted. |
| 13:29.31 | Phated | rename 's/-/ - /g' ./*filenames* |
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| 13:29.59 | Phated | \amethyst: Overly complex :) |
| 13:30.39 | hyksos | i got here a isdn machine, when it boots it wants to call into internet, how can i change that? |
| 13:31.19 | schurro | hyksos: disbale the ISDN service that runs automatically on boot? but you need to have root privs for that. |
| 13:31.40 | \amethyst | Phated: I guess perl is in base |
| 13:31.51 | zulu42 | hi there, question for an iptables guru: I have a basic 2 box network, one is a router and snat the other. I have one strange pb concerning dns: sometimes, the router seems not to forward the dns query of my workstation, this happen only sometime for 5 or 6 minutes... |
| 13:31.54 | hyksos | schurro : what do you mean? isdnutils? |
| 13:31.57 | Phated | \amethyst: I believe it is, but hey, yours works too :) |
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| 13:32.16 | chrisk | \amethyst, Phated: Thanks to both of you, I really need to learn a bit more about regex and rename. that one seems to be a very useful tool. |
| 13:32.23 | Phated | Indeed, rename++ |
| 13:32.23 | schurro | hyksos: yeha something liek it, look for a startup file in the /etc/rc.d* dirs. |
| 13:32.24 | zulu42 | is there particular test I can do? rules to check? |
| 13:32.39 | hyksos | zulu42 : to know nothing about the router-setup its hard to gues |
| 13:32.40 | zulu42 | what I don't understand that is happen only sometimes... |
| 13:33.07 | hyksos | schurro :but then i must restart that when i want to dial into internet? |
| 13:33.13 | zulu42 | hyksos, yes but without listin the whole I can only tells there are stupid basic rules |
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| 13:33.45 | zulu42 | nothing complicated, what do you think I could made wrong? and why this pb is not permanent? |
| 13:33.47 | schurro | hyksos: you only need to restart that service, but that does not need a reboot at all. Remember, This is not Windows! :-) |
| 13:34.05 | HugLeo | :] |
| 13:34.26 | HugLeo | reboot max the X |
| 13:34.27 | HugLeo | :) |
| 13:34.28 | hyksos | schurro :i know, but i dont want to restart isdnutils, i only want that it is not calling into internet, nothing else |
| 13:34.45 | hyksos | something must call internet automatically at bootup |
| 13:34.47 | zulu42 | hyksos, basicaly my router, as forward bit to one, and allow all forwarding and snat udp, icmp, and tcp nothing more |
| 13:34.51 | schurro | hyksos: the i don't nave a clue. |
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| 13:35.07 | zulu42 | and of course a few dnat for particular services, nothing more... |
| 13:35.50 | Zet | what, some people still use isdn? |
| 13:36.12 | hyksos | schurro :thers something in /etc/isdn/device.ippp0 withi DIALMODE=auto |
| 13:36.25 | schurro | hyksos: then change that? |
| 13:37.20 | schurro | anyway, does anyone know about how to handle files with a size > 2GB, e.g. when one wants to exrtract such a file? |
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| 13:38.44 | hyksos | schurro :i have heard of a special filesystem from sun i think, which is extra for very large files |
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| 13:39.57 | schurro | nope, ext2fs and kernel 2.4.30 in testing , is supposed to handle that, but apps like "unzip" or "ark" can't handle it. |
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| 13:40.38 | hyksos | schurro : http://www.sun.com/2004-0914/feature/ |
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| 13:42.29 | hyksos | schurro :ah seemed only for solaris |
| 13:42.38 | hyksos | but the dialmode thing works |
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| 13:44.23 | hyksos | someone knows a programm for linux with which i can draw in 3d rooms |
| 13:44.37 | hyksos | with furniture and so on |
| 13:44.47 | ye_old | hyksos: blender |
| 13:45.11 | dn4 | blender kicks arse :) |
| 13:45.29 | hyksos | ye_old : but i must do all of myself, a read-to-use only for rooms tool, you know what i mean, a simple 10dollar windows tool |
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| 13:45.46 | hyksos | but for linux :) |
| 13:45.48 | dn4 | Does anyone know of a good how-to on writing a firewall shell script, I have never written a shell script before :( |
| 13:46.07 | nlindblad | dn4, start with a simple one about Bash then |
| 13:46.31 | beardy | dn4: Use firehol instead. |
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| 13:46.36 | hyksos | dn4: you only need to know the rules you want to setup, all command in one file iptable -A ... ... |
| 13:46.41 | ye_old | hyksos: hm, http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Graphics/3D_Modelling.html |
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| 13:47.04 | beardy | dn4: Or some other already written firewall. |
| 13:47.06 | yos87 | hi |
| 13:47.12 | ye_old | hyksos: that's what google is for |
| 13:47.34 | beardy | dn4: "/msg dpkg abs-guide" aswell |
| 13:47.44 | yos87 | someone know any virtual cd software? |
| 13:48.08 | Fox_1_ | squid use program dnsserver, but in debian 3.1 i couldn't found that utilit. |
| 13:48.12 | beardy | yos87: If you mean to mount a image of a cd, just mount it, man mount. |
| 13:48.30 | cheloo | hi all ,why i cannot play movies with mplayer , kaffeine or xine ? i mean the playback its too slow , the sound its ok , any ideea ? this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/562622 |
| 13:48.58 | cheloo | and this is my video card |
| 13:49.01 | cheloo | 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82915G Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04) |
| 13:49.12 | Fox_1_ | ? |
| 13:49.25 | cheloo | it might dont use the right video card driver |
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| 13:49.35 | hyksos | ye_old: but none of them is a programm to draw rooms as simple as draw a line in paint, or do i missed it? |
| 13:49.59 | yos87 | beardy: I type mount, and the destenation file, isn't it? |
| 13:50.23 | ye_old | hyksos: get a grip man! it's 3d, what do you expect? |
| 13:50.49 | hyksos | ye_old :something like that http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3815881323.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg |
| 13:50.56 | hyksos | ye_old :but only for linux |
| 13:51.08 | ye_old | haha |
| 13:51.16 | ye_old | you haven't done any 3d before, have you? |
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| 13:51.26 | cheloo | when i run xorgcfg -textmode and i try to choise Select name that better matches your card: there is no list or video cards drivers , just ** Unlisted card **, any ideea ? |
| 13:51.29 | hyksos | ye_old :yes, such a simple tool, nothing to think, only draw and play |
| 13:51.32 | amphi | hyksos: have a look on freshmeat.net perhaps - otherwise, there's povray ;) |
| 13:51.40 | yos87 | beardy: thank you |
| 13:51.52 | Phated | My, we are ambitious. |
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| 13:51.57 | hyksos | ye_old : i am not interrested in doing 3d, but i have done a little bit with 3dstudio max |
| 13:52.23 | hyksos | ye_old :yet i am only interrested in a cheap tool for drawing rooms with furniture |
| 13:52.29 | dn4 | quick question when you install sarge, does it use iptables, ipchains, ipv6tables ? |
| 13:52.46 | cheloo | i can only choise ati or vmware but i need interl chipse i810 .. how do i get this video driver ? |
| 13:52.56 | Eulex | dn4, the kernel has those, yes. but iy's not activated by default. |
| 13:52.58 | ye_old | yeah well in my opinion all the 3d apps can do this, what you are looking for are templates, as it seems |
| 13:52.58 | hyksos | dn4 :ipchains is the old one for 2.2 kernel |
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| 13:53.23 | hyksos | ye_old :yes, that sounds good |
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| 13:53.42 | hyksos | ye_old :are there some for blender perhaps? |
| 13:53.42 | cheloo | can anyone please help me ? |
| 13:53.51 | ye_old | hyksos: i bet there are! |
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| 13:53.55 | hyksos | cheloo :no, why should we? |
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| 13:54.14 | freeone3000 | I'm having trouble installing the nvidia drivers from the site, already tried to get the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx from apt, but it didn't like either of my xservers (read: uninstalled them). I can't seem to get the 2.6.8 kernel source or kernel tree either... Where should I get these? |
| 13:54.15 | hyksos | ye_old :but i cannot find some |
| 13:54.22 | ye_old | cheloo: hehe depends on your problem |
| 13:54.30 | cheloo | hyksos did i said that you should ? |
| 13:54.35 | hyksos | ye_old :they are called templates in blender? |
| 13:54.43 | Eulex | !nvidia one-liner |
| 13:54.43 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia one-liner was update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 13:54.48 | hyksos | cheloo :it was a joke, simply ask :) |
| 13:54.49 | cheloo | ye_old hehe, i paste my problem already |
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| 13:55.04 | cheloo | hyksos aint no joke , i ask already |
| 13:55.07 | ye_old | hyksos: i have absolutely no idea, premade models? keep looking, I am sure, you will find that :) |
| 13:55.27 | Eulex | freeone3000, apt-cache search kernel-source, apt-cache search kernel-headers. and look above ^^ |
| 13:55.45 | hyksos | cheloo : you need xorg, i got a machine also with i810, xfree86 does it not support |
| 13:56.00 | Eulex | !sarge xorg |
| 13:56.05 | Eulex | !xorg sarge |
| 13:56.05 | dpkg | xorg sarge is, like, now available at http://backports.org/ |
| 13:56.06 | hyksos | cheloo :install xorg from sources, or change to unstable |
| 13:56.15 | Eulex | hyksos, neither. |
| 13:56.19 | hyksos | Eulex :oh cool |
| 13:56.20 | cheloo | hyksos you didnt read what i said , i run xorg :) |
| 13:56.28 | hyksos | cheloo :sorry |
| 13:56.58 | cheloo | hyksos runnig xorgcfg -textmode it doesnt shoe me any intel drivers ho0w come ? |
| 13:57.12 | Eulex | cheloo, you shouldn't use xorgcfg. |
| 13:57.18 | Eulex | !drxx cheloo |
| 13:57.18 | dpkg | cheloo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:57.18 | cheloo | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.32 | Eulex | !xmd5 |
| 13:57.33 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 13:57.49 | hyksos | i only got Driver "i810" in my X config |
| 13:57.55 | Eulex | cheloo, those will get you going. |
| 13:58.21 | cheloo | Eulex well xmd5 works only for XF86Config ? |
| 13:58.44 | Eulex | cheloo, same principle, just replace XF86config-4 with xorg.conf. |
| 13:59.04 | Eulex | cheloo, I'm afraid you'll have to use that one, as you've run xorgcfg. |
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| 14:04.07 | freeone3000 | kernel-headers-2.6.8-2: Depends: kernel-kbuild-2.6-3 but it is not installable |
| 14:04.58 | edrin | aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library |
| 14:05.00 | edrin | aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library |
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| 14:05.20 | edrin | in debian testing i get on kde start a "Could not start kdeinit..." ?? what happened?? |
| 14:05.40 | dn4 | lets say I have a dynamic ip address, what is the best method of routing this address through out my house, so that other computers on the LAN can access the internet through that dynamic ip address? |
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| 14:06.10 | Eulex | freeone3000, apt-get install kernel-kbuild-2.6-3? |
| 14:06.24 | edrin | anyone has the same problem???? |
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| 14:06.33 | cheloo | still doenst work :( |
| 14:06.47 | cheloo | xorg or xfree86 in debian sucks :( |
| 14:07.28 | drac | cheloo: user error(!) |
| 14:07.32 | cheloo | even fdisk -l doesnt work (as root ) |
| 14:07.33 | HugLeo | what then rocks? |
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| 14:07.52 | cheloo | drac i dont think so |
| 14:08.01 | drac | cheloo: i'm sure of it. |
| 14:08.14 | yongshunz | cheloo, can't run xorgcfg? |
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| 14:08.17 | cheloo | HugLeo well every linux os has bugs :) |
| 14:08.31 | googlah | hi people. |
| 14:08.32 | freeone3000 | Package kernel-kbuild-2.6-3 is not available, but is referred to by another package.... ANd the rest of that wellknown message. |
| 14:08.34 | HugLeo | :] |
| 14:08.42 | cheloo | yongshunz course i can , but some of you guys says that its bad |
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| 14:09.00 | HugLeo | cheloo, BSDs! |
| 14:09.04 | cheloo | drac would you please have a look at my xorg.conf file ? |
| 14:09.15 | cheloo | HugLeo freebsd ? |
| 14:09.26 | HugLeo | net |
| 14:09.31 | googlah | my debian appearance is really annoying, check out my taskbar, http://psy.sh.nu/~googlah/taskbar.png |
| 14:09.44 | googlah | how to fix it? it makes me crazy literally. |
| 14:09.52 | drac | cheloo: sure. |
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| 14:10.47 | yongshunz | cheloo :) |
| 14:10.57 | cheloo | drac http://pastebin.com/562658 |
| 14:11.04 | cheloo | yongshunz :) what ? |
| 14:11.22 | Eulex | googlah, hmm. I've seen the same thing with an older version of xfce combined with gtk 2.8. you should file a bug. |
| 14:11.49 | cheloo | drac 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82915G Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04) |
| 14:12.10 | cheloo | why fdisk -l doesnt show me anything ? :) |
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| 14:12.29 | drac | cheloo: Please delete following lines: Load "ddc", "evdev", "int10", "record", "v4l", "vbe", "bitmap" and Option UseFBDev "true" |
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| 14:12.49 | drac | cheloo: I don't know why you have them there, but you 100% sure shouldn't. |
| 14:12.49 | googlah | Eulex, thanks for the reply. damn bug.. can't i fix it in some way? and file a bug, yeah right, i even don't know which version of gtk i'm running. :) |
| 14:13.01 | SeicherlBoB | how can i get information about a partiton like size and stuff? |
| 14:13.06 | drac | cheloo: Open /etc/modules in a editor, and add line there saying: i810 |
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| 14:13.10 | Eulex | googlah, are you on stable, testing or unstable? |
| 14:13.21 | googlah | unstable. |
| 14:13.45 | drac | cheloo: and please check: grep -i videoram /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 14:13.49 | Eulex | SeicherlBoB, fdisk -l |
| 14:14.02 | Eulex | googlah, checked the bts? |
| 14:14.03 | googlah | so that might be the problem? i don't know how to restore to stable and which stuff to restore. |
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| 14:14.14 | SeicherlBoB | Eulex: returns nothing |
| 14:14.15 | googlah | bts? :o) |
| 14:14.27 | Eulex | !btssmite googlah |
| 14:14.28 | yongshunz | cheal, bug of fdisk, |
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| 14:14.59 | Eulex | SeicherlBoB, you could try fdisk -l /dev/hda or wherever your hdd is. |
| 14:15.23 | SeicherlBoB | Eulex: still nothing |
| 14:15.24 | Eulex | cheloo, fdisk -l /dev/hda? |
| 14:15.32 | cheloo | drac done now /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg restart ? |
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| 14:15.37 | Eulex | SeicherlBoB, hmm, that's really strange |
| 14:16.00 | Eulex | googlah, if you don't know what the bts, you shouldn't really run unstable. |
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| 14:16.13 | cheloo | Eulex well i dont have to guess whats the device location , fdisk -l should tell me |
| 14:16.16 | SeicherlBoB | Eulex: Ah! I'd like to check for a md, not a harddrive |
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| 14:16.23 | yongshunz | fdisk -l ,will list all hd, |
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| 14:16.27 | drac | What? There is /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg now in Debian that restarts X ?! |
| 14:16.44 | cheloo | yongshunz yeah thats what i want :) |
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| 14:16.46 | drac | cheloo: Prolly just /etc/init.d/xdm (or kdm or gdm) restart to restart graphical login |
| 14:17.11 | dn4 | what does init.d stand for? |
| 14:17.16 | Eulex | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.16 | Eulex | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.16 | Eulex | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.27 | Eulex | SeicherlBoB & cheloo, ^^ |
| 14:17.27 | CalJohn | dn4 : initialisation daemon, I think |
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| 14:18.04 | Eulex | drac, "description: Genererate X configuration at boot time" |
| 14:18.11 | SeicherlBoB | Eulex: yeah, but there is still not a single line of output |
| 14:18.19 | avar | dn4: initialization daemons? |
| 14:18.27 | Eulex | CalJohn, I guess initialization directory. |
| 14:18.52 | Eulex | SeicherlBoB, when you give it a correct storage device? |
| 14:19.04 | drac | Eulex: That's just crazy :) |
| 14:19.23 | SeicherlBoB | Eulex: the thing is, i'd like to check a md (raid), not a drive |
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| 14:20.21 | Eulex | drac, yep, I thought so too. |
| 14:20.35 | Eulex | SeicherlBoB, ah. I dunno completely about raid. |
| 14:20.45 | CalJohn | Eulex : my mistake |
| 14:20.59 | tziku | hello i'm tryingo to connect on mysql server from a windows program and mysql server dos't respond. I set to accept connection from any host. Can somebody help me pls ? |
| 14:21.34 | Eulex | CalJohn, well, there's not really any initialization daemon. |
| 14:22.11 | CalJohn | Eulex : i realise _now_ :p |
| 14:22.12 | Eulex | tziku, can you connect to the mysql server locally on the debian box? |
| 14:22.23 | tziku | yes localy is working. |
| 14:23.06 | Eulex | CalJohn, hehe. initialization is done once; a daemon always runs and waits for events |
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| 14:23.43 | Eulex | tziku, have you disabled any funky windows firewall or norton internet security or similar? |
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| 14:26.11 | freeone3000 | Is there a disadvantage to using an older kernel? Like, say, 2.4? |
| 14:26.32 | loukoum | how do I readjust the clock ? |
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| 14:27.27 | tziku | Eulex: did u say something ? i was disconected from server :( |
| 14:27.31 | Eulex | freeone3000, yes, it's slower, and hasn't got that good support for newer hardware. |
| 14:27.47 | SeicherlBoB | I have 2 partitions set up as a raid 1. now i can't find the raid-partition (something like /dev/md1) anymore. I know the partitions names. can i check where they are put together! PLZ, anyone?! |
| 14:27.55 | Eulex | tziku, I didn't. |
| 14:28.02 | freeone3000 | But it will have GLX... So okay, it's worth it. |
| 14:28.14 | Eulex | loukoum, man date. |
| 14:28.18 | freeone3000 | brb, swapping kernels. |
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| 14:28.32 | dlmmlb | !fstab |
| 14:28.32 | dpkg | rumour has it, fstab is a file that lets the `mount' command know what mountable things (partitions, drives, etc) are in your system. Try `man 5 fstab` for more information on it. |
| 14:28.42 | Eulex | !rot13 dlmmlb |
| 14:28.43 | dpkg | qyzzyo |
| 14:28.44 | loukoum | Eulex , thanks |
| 14:28.48 | Eulex | hmm |
| 14:29.03 | Eulex | loukoum, yw :) |
| 14:29.39 | Eulex | !rot13 Eulex |
| 14:29.39 | dpkg | Rhyrk |
| 14:29.48 | Eulex | :) |
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| 14:31.13 | signius | Hi guys |
| 14:32.06 | signius | when i do apt-get install blahblahblah and apt recommends packages is there a way to make it install all the recommeneded packages also ? |
| 14:32.24 | _rene_ | use aptitude ;) |
| 14:32.43 | SerajewelKS | signius: yes, copy and paste the lines to another 'apt-get install' command |
| 14:33.06 | signius | i have only messed with aptitude a couple of times and hated it |
| 14:33.30 | xoz | signius: try feta, it uses apt-get |
| 14:33.32 | signius | yeah i been doing the copy paste thing but wondered if there was a more elegant way to do it |
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| 14:34.30 | signius | ok thanks anyways |
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| 14:34.55 | xoz | !feta |
| 14:34.55 | dpkg | from memory, feta is a Front-End To Apt. (http://www.sacredchao.net/software/feta/index.shtml), or cheese made from goat's milk |
| 14:34.56 | signius | im off to try and get hostap drivers working i have failed everytime so far in the past |
| 14:35.03 | signius | ill get it eventually tho |
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| 14:45.33 | kspath | feta? sheeps milk |
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| 14:45.42 | kspath | or goats milk also |
| 14:45.53 | kspath | !lart Amazon.com |
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| 14:51.09 | bkhl | Oh, I got it, just use a really short timeout. |
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| 14:53.21 | tziku | hello i'm tryingo to uninstall: myphpmonet but is stoping at: Forcing reload of web server: Apache2. . Can somebody help me pls ? |
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| 14:54.41 | dn4 | what is a bridge used for/? |
| 14:55.11 | Mococo | Hi I'm trying to install mod_evasive manually but can seem to find the location for "apxs" when I apt-get install apache2 a while back does anyone know where the apxs location is? |
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| 14:55.35 | asg | Mococo: it's called apxs2 in apache2 |
| 14:56.22 | Mococo | asg: do you know where the file can be found I ran "locate apxs2" but still can't find it |
| 14:56.55 | TBBle | Mococo: You prolly need apache2-dev or libapache2-dev or something like that. |
| 14:56.55 | asg | Mococo: it's in /usr/bin. If you don't have it, you need to install apache2-prefork-dev or apache2-threaded-dev (depending on which MPM you are using) |
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| 14:57.34 | Mococo | ok thanks |
| 14:57.52 | asg | Mococo: in the future, the 'apt-file' package can be used to find the location and packages that contain files. |
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| 14:59.03 | ye_old | ok, silly question now: i am using kde3.5.1 now I do an apt-get install kde, (debian etch 2.6.12 kernel), is it normal, that it comes, that kde wasn't installed yet and some pages are being downloaded? |
| 14:59.07 | fatal_ | Mococo: ... and all development related stuff is in the -dev packages. :) |
| 14:59.30 | ye_old | i mean, isn't kde under debian monolithic anyway? |
| 14:59.46 | gravity | "debian monolithic"? |
| 15:00.10 | Phated | (kde under debian) monolithic, I think :) |
| 15:00.15 | ye_old | yes |
| 15:00.17 | ye_old | :) |
| 15:00.34 | gravity | Isn't kde split up in to several source packages though? |
| 15:00.34 | fatal_ | ye_old: no, kde and gnome are just meta-packages depending on all packages that grouped together is called kde or gnome. |
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| 15:01.59 | fatal_ | gravity: it certainly is split into several binary packages anyway... |
| 15:02.04 | gravity | Yeah |
| 15:03.03 | ye_old | fatal_: well yes, but you have to decide if you get the whole kde or just some basics, that means: monolithic is: you can get eg. kdebase and kdenetwork and leave the rest. that's kinda split, but then you still have tonns of (for you) useless junk under kdenetwork that is not needed, here comes the split ebuilds, term I first saw under gentoo: you can therefor get every package alone, eg. kmail or kwrite |
| 15:05.27 | ye_old | something with kde is very wrong here, when I log in, i receive a grey box saying "Could not start kdeinit, Check your installation", in the Xorg.log stands something about a symbol lookup error libXft.so.2 no further debug output, I'm really stuck here, google is empty :) |
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| 15:06.10 | gravity | ye_old: Testing? |
| 15:06.15 | ye_old | gravity: yes |
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| 15:06.29 | gravity | ye_old: Yeah, it's a bug in freetype that causes xft to do that. Downgrade xft |
| 15:06.41 | ye_old | kde 3.5.1 gcc 4.4.0 qt 3.3.5 |
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| 15:06.44 | gravity | Or upgrade to sid's freetype I guess |
| 15:06.52 | ye_old | gravity, how can i downgrade it? |
| 15:07.00 | ye_old | no no, no sid :) |
| 15:07.16 | gravity | ye_old: Pull the package from the stable repo |
| 15:07.24 | gravity | Apparently that's worked for people |
| 15:07.26 | fatal_ | ye_old: I'm not to well informed when it comes to KDE... if you know any package that consists of two parts that are usefull separately, then file a wishlist bug against it suggesting a split. |
| 15:08.00 | fatal_ | ye_old: I'd assume k<whatever> depends on kdebase.... so you'll get that anyway... you can't run a kde program without the kde base libraries. |
| 15:08.21 | ye_old | fatal_: good idea, it's just that some sections are bloated, but thats ok if everything's binary there is no compile time to lose anyway |
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| 15:08.43 | ye_old | fatal_: yeah that for sure, i did not question that |
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| 15:11.08 | ye_old | gravity: let's say I have both repos in my sources list: one for testing, one for stable: can I chose between the packages? precedence takes the more actual and/or higher in list, I read in the man page |
| 15:11.21 | loukoum | I made a copy of /etc/profile into ~/.profile and made some modifications. My .profile is not executed the normal /etc/profile is. Any ideas ? |
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| 15:11.40 | _alex | a program to record video of my desktop? |
| 15:11.45 | gravity | ye_old: It's possible. Check out man apt_preferences. Also, you can use aptitude in interactive mode to install the version of individual packages you want. |
| 15:12.00 | asg | loukoum: man bash (/INVOCATION) |
| 15:12.14 | ye_old | okay! |
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| 15:15.38 | loukoum | asg: thanks |
| 15:15.42 | asg | you're welcome |
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| 15:18.20 | Eclipser | o.O |
| 15:18.23 | Huahua | hello , is there anyone run debian on ibook |
| 15:18.38 | asg | Huahua: #debianppc is the place to be |
| 15:18.47 | Huahua | thank you |
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| 15:21.40 | ye_old | gravity, in aptitude i see now only one versio of freetype: libfreetype6-dev which is 2.1.7-2.4 replaced freetype0 and conflicts freetype1, how can i downgrade? |
| 15:21.55 | ye_old | -dev |
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| 15:22.09 | SPearl | huu... |
| 15:22.14 | Huahua | em |
| 15:22.19 | blondie | huu to you too |
| 15:22.21 | evilt0ne | moin |
| 15:22.23 | Huahua | make a fake deb ? |
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| 15:23.10 | ye_old | yeah sure |
| 15:23.39 | gravity | ye_old: Hit enter while it's selected and scroll to the bottom of the package info. At the bottom, there'll be a list of all available versions. Pick the one you want and install it with + |
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| 15:24.20 | ye_old | gravity: yes i know, and as i said, there is only the one :) : +i libfreetype6 |
| 15:24.37 | gravity | ye_old: No, I meant downgrade libxft |
| 15:24.40 | gravity | Sorry |
| 15:24.49 | ye_old | ah! |
| 15:24.51 | gravity | Should have been clearer |
| 15:25.03 | ye_old | easy! |
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| 15:28.49 | ye_old | ah, yes, there it is: libxft2: p 2.1.7-1 and i 2.1.8.2-3 |
| 15:28.50 | Arnald | anyone else find mozilla FUBAR after latest update in testing? |
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| 15:32.24 | ye_old | aptitude has a bad way to talk to me: [1(1)/...] Suggest 1 downgrade e:examine !:apply .:next -> what of these possibilities means: yes do it? :D |
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| 15:34.57 | r00t | ! ? |
| 15:35.36 | zebalin7 | Help. I did full upgrade in Etch and now FF crashes AND I get a "can't start kdeinit" message because: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden |
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| 15:35.51 | bobbens | Could some one please hook me up with the default .Xdefaults from Debian SID? I have no idea what happened, but the file seems to have been removed... |
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| 15:36.03 | zebalin7 | Is this why no one uses Etch? Because is it crap? |
| 15:36.59 | zebalin7 | Can I insall libxrender1 from sid and fix the problem? |
| 15:37.09 | gravity | zebalin7: Downgrade xft to the version in stable |
| 15:37.15 | gravity | zebalin7: That bug is due to a bug in freetype |
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| 15:37.40 | ye_old | it worked |
| 15:37.48 | gravity | I should really just add shlibs.local to xft and be done with it... :-( |
| 15:38.05 | gravity | Or push for freetype to get in to etch, but I hate freetype |
| 15:38.10 | zebalin7 | You say xft? From stable? How is that done? Add a line in sources.lst for stable, udate and then install? |
| 15:38.35 | zebalin7 | gravity: is there a bot on how to downgrade? |
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| 15:38.56 | zebalin7 | !downgrade |
| 15:38.56 | dpkg | [downgrade] not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. |
| 15:39.04 | gravity | zebalin7: Ask ye_old :-) |
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| 15:39.11 | gravity | zebalin7: I just taught him. Now he can spread the knowledge :-) |
| 15:39.21 | ye_old | zebalin7: added stable line in sources.list and in aptitude you can really comfortably chose between the versions, aptitude is nice!! |
| 15:39.28 | danieldg | bobbens: I think it was supposed to be removed |
| 15:39.49 | zebalin7 | I use snaptic. Should work there too, right? |
| 15:39.56 | bobbens | really? Because xterm is real ugly now |
| 15:40.00 | zebalin7 | I would 'force' the version? |
| 15:40.13 | gravity | zebalin7: I don't know how to do it in synaptic. You're on your own with that. aptitude may suit you better for this task |
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| 15:40.14 | ye_old | hehe gravity, yes I can :) |
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| 15:40.16 | danieldg | bobbens: well, I don't have it on my system |
| 15:40.34 | gravity | bobbens: I didn't intend to remove it. Let me look for a moment... |
| 15:41.05 | bobbens | Its the only X file I havent configured yet and for some reason it disappeared, so I want to have the defaults again to have pretty xterms :) |
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| 15:42.46 | zebalin7 | gravity: only 'xft' I have installed is: libxft2 is that the one? |
| 15:42.55 | gravity | bobbens: Could you file a bug report about it? It shouldn't be gone. |
| 15:42.59 | gravity | bobbens: I can't look at it now |
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| 15:43.01 | gravity | zebalin7: Yes |
| 15:43.04 | ejofee | what is the name of the config file for motif? |
| 15:43.13 | zebalin7 | gravity: thatnks. you the man!!! I'll try it now. |
| 15:43.42 | bobbens | gravity: i think it could be a user error, because I was working with the X config files and might have overwritten it or something. If no one else has the same problem im guessing I just screwed up |
| 15:43.49 | zebalin7 | gravity: last time I EVER do a dist upgrade an pick up new libs!! I'll report back. thanks again. |
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| 15:44.14 | gravity | bobbens: No, the default file should be there... |
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| 15:44.28 | gravity | bobbens: Do you know where it was located? I'm blanking on it right now |
| 15:44.45 | bobbens | gravity: ~/.Xdefaults |
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| 15:45.27 | mortal | how could I tell X that I want no virtual screen size |
| 15:45.37 | gravity | bobbens: Ah, that's user error then |
| 15:45.41 | mortal | like when changing from bigger resolution to smaller one |
| 15:45.48 | gravity | bobbens: The X packages don't touch anything in your home directory |
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| 15:46.05 | bobbens | gravity: mmm after installing X it does seem to create that |
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| 15:46.44 | brislingf | how can i mount a ntfs drive from a live linuxcd?? |
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| 15:49.02 | halibut | will this work with debian? http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?product_uid=81058 |
| 15:49.06 | Rhyrk | brislingf, just mount it. mount -t ntfs device mountpoint |
| 15:50.12 | brislingf | i have tried mount -t ntfs hda1 and it rejects it :S |
| 15:50.45 | Rhyrk | brislingf, (1) you need to tell it the mountpoint (2) you need to tell it the full path to the device |
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| 15:50.54 | hatake_kakashi | brislingf: /dev/hda1 |
| 15:50.58 | asg | brislingf: you need to specify the full device path (/dev/hda1) |
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| 15:51.17 | brislingf | oki i'll try it, |
| 15:52.02 | dureyes | I am having very weird problem with the gnome clock....it does not give me the option to adjust time when I right click on it...any suggestions? |
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| 15:52.46 | ejofee | what is the name of the config file for motif? |
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| 15:53.10 | brislingf | it refers to fstab, but i cant change that, its located on the cd :S |
| 15:53.34 | Rhyrk | brislingf, what's the exact command you're trying? |
| 15:53.46 | Rhyrk | dureyes, man date. |
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| 15:54.00 | brislingf | mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 |
| 15:54.04 | _Godlike_ | Hi |
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| 15:54.26 | _Godlike_ | theres like tons of people here |
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| 15:55.06 | Rhyrk | brislingf, you still need to give it a mountpoint. |
| 15:55.15 | lupz | hi, the installer fails to detect my cdrom and stops.. how can i do ? |
| 15:55.15 | roler | what utility will allow me to create a .tar.gz (or similar) backup of my system by selecting which directories to backup? |
| 15:55.44 | brislingf | like mount -t ntfs /mnt/c /dev/hda1? |
| 15:55.49 | dannyp | roler: tar? |
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| 15:56.07 | Rhyrk | brislingf, no, put the mountpoint after the device. |
| 15:56.09 | dannyp | cpio as well |
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| 15:57.32 | datuin | Hi everibody. need help building kernel. lost tutorial i was following. |
| 15:58.07 | Rhyrk | !wayc datuin |
| 15:58.07 | dpkg | datuin: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 15:58.55 | vin` | roler: backup-manager |
| 15:59.08 | pem3v78 | how can I split my terminal by half into two terminals ? |
| 15:59.31 | brislingf | it works |
| 15:59.33 | brislingf | thx |
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| 16:01.19 | Rhyrk | pem3v78, screen |
| 16:01.31 | asrail | dpkg needs to learn some people like to compile their kernels |
| 16:01.52 | vin` | asrail: eh? |
| 16:02.11 | asrail | datuin: Do you need help configuring or compiling? |
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| 16:02.34 | asrail | vin`: I don't live without cpufreq. The default image doesn't have it. |
| 16:02.35 | pem3v78 | Rhyrk: I want to see both terminals on monitor, does screen allow that ? |
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| 16:02.59 | Rhyrk | pem3v78, yes. |
| 16:03.20 | _spq | hi, i need a special php module, how can i just build this module (gmp) |
| 16:03.21 | Rhyrk | asrail, problem is, most people who want to compile their kernel don't need it. they're much better off with an official kernel image. |
| 16:03.40 | pem3v78 | ok, thanks |
| 16:03.44 | asrail | ;) |
| 16:03.52 | lupz | hi, the installer fails to detect my cdrom and stops.. how can i do ? |
| 16:04.02 | Rhyrk | vin`, the default image does have cpufreq. |
| 16:04.17 | Rhyrk | lupz, tried both kernels? |
| 16:04.26 | vin` | Rhyrk: *shrug* I compile my own. ;) |
| 16:04.48 | Rhyrk | umh, sorry, was directed at asrail, not vin` |
| 16:04.55 | asrail | Rhyrk: I said the default image doesn't have cpufreq. It does not have. |
| 16:05.29 | vin` | asrail: cpufreq-userspace or so was the userspace module name, I believe it is available. |
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| 16:06.10 | vin` | cpufreq_userspace |
| 16:06.22 | fas3r__ | if i want installl mplayer (the source) it's necessary i install codec before ? |
| 16:06.48 | bartm | fas3r__: just apt-get it |
| 16:06.52 | Rhyrk | asrail, http://pdo.debian.net/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686&version=stable&arch=i386 |
| 16:06.55 | vin` | fas3r__: /msg dpkg marillat (both mplayer and the codecs are available there) |
| 16:06.58 | fas3r__ | bartm, no i'm not |
| 16:07.35 | datuin | need help istalling nvidia driver using a .run file. unable to provide kernel location |
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| 16:08.47 | Rhyrk | datuin, you don't. |
| 16:08.52 | Rhyrk | !nvidia one-liner |
| 16:08.52 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 16:08.53 | asrail | err |
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| 16:10.18 | asrail | datuin: Even to build the package from the site, you don't need to build the kernel. It looks like the headers files for the kernel are missing. |
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| 16:10.31 | roler | vin`, ;thanks ;) |
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| 16:11.58 | _alex | exist another cvs server like this cvs.freedesktop.org ?maybe it drops my ip :( |
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| 16:15.30 | fas3r__ | anybody have the apt for merillat (for mplayer and codecs) ? |
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| 16:16.01 | bbrazil | fas3r__: /msg dpkg mplayer |
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| 16:16.12 | fas3r__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.17 | Golito | !marillat |
| 16:16.17 | dpkg | hmm... marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> |
| 16:16.38 | fas3r__ | oki thank bbrazil |
| 16:16.40 | fas3r__ | :) |
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| 16:17.53 | GasKiller | How can I release my ip on Linux? |
| 16:18.25 | dannyp | release your dhcp lease, you mean |
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| 16:19.30 | GasKiller | yep |
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| 16:21.28 | Kizmet | GasKiller, /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 16:21.41 | Kizmet | GasKiller,is the evil way of doing it i think... |
| 16:22.06 | epsilon | what do you mean with "release"? |
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| 16:24.09 | GasKiller | like you're doing on win --> ipconfig /release |
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| 16:25.46 | epsilon | can't follow you... you mean 'if-up -a'? |
| 16:26.00 | zulu42 | are dns reply cached? |
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| 16:27.05 | GasKiller | I think I found it. It's "pump -i eth0 --release" |
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| 16:27.50 | fas3r__ | if i make dpkg-reconfigure and i select xfree86 instead of xorg iafter the dpkg-reconfigure it recreate a xfree86.conf or a xorg.conf automaticly ? |
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| 16:29.25 | drac | fas3r__: man, "less /etc/X11/XF86Config-4" or "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and read first lines, it explains that all. |
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| 16:35.39 | zebalin7 | gravity: hello? I'm getting no traffic in channel |
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| 16:38.06 | HolyGoat | damn, this is annoying.. what's the common way in bash to do string concatenation? like str.="foobar" |
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| 16:38.43 | geyikue | :) |
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| 16:39.52 | epsilon | HolyGoat: foo=$foo1$foo2 |
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| 16:42.16 | HolyGoat | epsilon: ah, thanks.. something else must be wrong, the variable is empty after the while loop in which I'm concatenating |
| 16:42.43 | limpio | in what file do enable/disable modules? |
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| 16:42.52 | Naz_ | hey |
| 16:43.21 | Naz_ | when I try to update stats on awstats, I get an error saying : |
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| 16:43.26 | superlinux | hi who has skype? i wanna test it plz cos i am using linux |
| 16:43.28 | nathan_ | If i've got 2 files, both with the same nunmber of lines, and i want to merge both files so that one appends to the end of each line of the other file, what would i use to do that? |
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| 16:44.01 | Naz_ | Setup ('/etc/awstats/awstats.conf' file, webserver or permission) may be wrong |
| 16:44.24 | superlinux | nathan_, us "cat" |
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| 16:44.57 | nathan_ | superlinux, how would that work with append to end of line not end of file |
| 16:45.28 | Naz_ | anyone? |
| 16:45.34 | ringo999 | hi, how do i mount a usb device like a digital camera undert kde? |
| 16:45.45 | superlinux | cat f1 f2 >> new_file |
| 16:45.52 | superlinux | Naz_, what is that software? |
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| 16:46.48 | epsilon | superlinux: that's append at end of file, not end of each line |
| 16:46.52 | Naz_ | awstats |
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| 16:46.55 | Naz_ | apache2 |
| 16:46.58 | Naz_ | debian sarge |
| 16:47.00 | mohkohn | I just installed etch. I seem to be missing snd_intel8x0 |
| 16:47.01 | nathan_ | superlinux, what epsilon said :) |
| 16:47.04 | superlinux | ringo999, use camera:/ |
| 16:47.20 | mohkohn | Is there a quick way to put it in? |
| 16:47.49 | reto_ | hmm.. since sarge I'have an ipv6 address.. is there a way to deactivate it? |
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| 16:49.25 | BLAFD | hi, does any one know what package has got alsa's init.d scripts? |
| 16:49.29 | epsilon | reto_: man interfaces? don't use ipv6 support of kernel? |
| 16:49.31 | ringo999 | superlinux: use camera? |
| 16:49.45 | HolyGoat | epsilon: so is this a scope problem maybe? http://pastebin.com/562872 |
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| 16:50.19 | HolyGoat | epsilon: after the while, $out does not contain what has been concatted to it in the while loop |
| 16:50.52 | Naz_ | anyone? |
| 16:51.38 | danbrwn | how to search for available packages? |
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| 16:52.04 | reto_ | epsilon: I haven't configured any ipv6 interfaces.. so I assume its configured automatically.. but I haven't found a way to supress that (in man interfaces) |
| 16:52.05 | vin` | danbrwn: /msg dpkg search |
| 16:52.14 | reto_ | epsilon: and how can I deactivate ipv6 in the kernel? |
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| 16:52.24 | superlinux | nathan_, u must use the protocol called " camera:/ " |
| 16:52.26 | superlinux | like u do with http:// |
| 16:52.33 | nathan_ | me ? :) |
| 16:52.34 | superlinux | nathan_, and check the control center of kde for that |
| 16:52.36 | superlinux | who has skype? i wanna test it plz cos i am using linux |
| 16:52.40 | superlinux | who has skype? i wanna test it plz cos i am using debian linux |
| 16:52.41 | epsilon | reto_: what's in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 16:52.54 | superlinux | ringo999, check the kcontrol u'll know |
| 16:52.58 | superlinux | gphoto should be installed |
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| 16:53.16 | nuxil | whats diff between ubuntu and deb? |
| 16:53.35 | nuxil | is deb a better choice |
| 16:53.37 | thingfish | ubuntu is a distro. a deb is a file format. |
| 16:53.44 | reto_ | epsilon: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AiNUVK62.html |
| 16:53.44 | superlinux | ubuntu is more desktop oriented |
| 16:53.59 | thingfish | oh yeah? |
| 16:54.01 | superlinux | while debian is general use distro |
| 16:54.04 | nathan_ | nuxil, ubuntu has a faster package update cycle :) |
| 16:54.05 | amphi | thingfish: admirable pedantry ;) |
| 16:54.08 | thingfish | sarge makes a perfect desktop. |
| 16:54.20 | dee | debs a distro too |
| 16:54.24 | thingfish | amphi: ;) |
| 16:54.26 | reto_ | epsilon: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/gbbhiA20.html here's the ifconfig -a |
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| 16:54.39 | superlinux | dee i think debian IS Linux |
| 16:54.47 | amphi | thingfish: and I agree about sarge, it is very pleasant on my laptop |
| 16:54.52 | superlinux | i tried all distros almost |
| 16:54.57 | epsilon | debian != linux |
| 16:55.04 | thingfish | it's Debian, people. Those who use Debian don't call it "deb" - only n00bs and derivatives users. |
| 16:55.07 | superlinux | epsilon, i know that |
| 16:55.28 | superlinux | but with time u'll notice it'll be the Linux OS |
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| 16:55.52 | epsilon | don't understand what you mean |
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| 16:56.15 | superlinux | i mean the default meaning for linux while speeking will be debian |
| 16:56.19 | dee | ok i use Debian sarge/openbsd & freebsd i am a noob ;) |
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| 16:56.23 | superlinux | like it's now with redhat |
| 16:56.29 | reto_ | epsilon: any idea how I can deactivate ipv6 completly? |
| 16:56.47 | thingfish | reto_: good luck. |
| 16:56.55 | reto_ | thingfish: -v |
| 16:56.58 | superlinux | reto_, ifdown iface |
| 16:57.20 | superlinux | remove it from /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:57.21 | reto_ | superlinux: well.. that deactivates my ipv4 address AND my ipv6 address |
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| 16:57.30 | reto_ | It isn't in my interfaces config |
| 16:57.35 | reto_ | interfaces: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AiNUVK62.html |
| 16:57.43 | reto_ | ifconfig -a: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/gbbhiA20.html |
| 16:57.53 | epsilon | reto_: don't load ipv6 support if you don't need it |
| 16:58.00 | reto_ | how can I not load it? |
| 16:58.07 | nathan_ | epsilon, i got the answer i was after... 'paste' is my friend :) |
| 16:58.32 | reto_ | epsilon: hmm.. okay, it's a kernel module.. |
| 16:58.49 | reto_ | epsilon: now I only have to tell my system to not load it during the bootup |
| 16:58.53 | Pupeno | superlinux: redhat is not the default linux distro, not here at least. |
| 16:58.57 | limpio | reto_: If you want to turn off IPv6 system-wide, this can be done in /etc/modutils/aliases -- just find the following line and remove the # character from the beginning of the line: |
| 16:58.57 | limpio | # alias net-pf-10 off # IPv6 |
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| 16:59.00 | superlinux | aha |
| 16:59.08 | thingfish | oh wait - it's Sunday, isn't it. |
| 16:59.14 | reto_ | limpio: oh.. thanks! |
| 16:59.15 | Anthro | !sunday |
| 16:59.16 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 16:59.19 | reto_ | limpio: is this the right way to go? |
| 16:59.32 | thingfish | reto_: do what limpio says then report back here. |
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| 16:59.48 | superlinux | Pupeno, which country are u in? |
| 16:59.48 | superlinux | cos here in lebanon they mean redhat |
| 16:59.48 | superlinux | and i wanna change that |
| 16:59.49 | BLAFD | hi, does any one know what package has got alsa's init.d scripts? |
| 17:00.00 | thingfish | with the results of an lsmod. |
| 17:00.01 | Pupeno | superlinux: argentina. |
| 17:00.13 | superlinux | aha |
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| 17:00.26 | superlinux | Pupeno, what is the default in argentina? |
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| 17:00.57 | Pupeno | superlinux: where I normally move, there's no default. |
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| 17:01.32 | superlinux | aha |
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| 17:01.41 | hid3 | Evening. Anyone here knowing HTB shaper well? I'm getting "class 1000x isn't work conserving ?!" in dmesg.. What can be wrong? |
| 17:01.54 | aFlag | i have two partitions in the beggining of the disk, then i have some free space then i have other partition and then more free space. I want to change the position of that partition so it's right after the two partitions at the beggining of the disk. What's the best way to do it? |
| 17:02.16 | superlinux | well here they are still having amongst lay men that windows education |
| 17:02.28 | resiak | Non-trivially, but you could just use lvm to use both chunks of free space as one partition |
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| 17:02.46 | limpio | reto_: afterwards run 'update modules' as root, sorry |
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| 17:02.58 | resiak | or you could back up the second partition, repartition the disk, and restore from backup |
| 17:02.58 | superlinux | gtg to watch SMACK DOWN! |
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| 17:03.23 | danbrwn | ls |
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| 17:03.32 | aFlag | hum |
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| 17:03.56 | resiak | aFlag: LVM is awesome. I recommend it |
| 17:04.18 | aFlag | i was just going to ask if it works good :) |
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| 17:04.53 | thingfish | oh, guess what I found out yesterday? Used to be, you'd get several reinstalls of XP before your product activation code was rejected. Now, you have to do it every time you reinstall (call MS up and get a new activation code). |
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| 17:05.13 | thingfish | the gal I talked to said that's MS's new policy. |
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| 17:05.41 | reto | thingfish: report back as ordererd.. line uncommented, updates-modules run and system rebooted.. but ipv6 module is still loaded |
| 17:05.47 | limpio | reto: run 'update-modules' as root, sorry |
| 17:05.52 | thingfish | reto: why did I know that. |
| 17:05.53 | reto | limpio: ;) |
| 17:06.06 | avar | thingfish: that's the price you have to pay for running a high-quality OS |
| 17:06.07 | avar | oh.. |
| 17:06.22 | thingfish | avar: hahahaha |
| 17:06.33 | reto | does anybody have an idea.. the next thing I'll do is analyse the initscripts wich loads this damm module |
| 17:07.31 | thingfish | well anyway, the only reason I was keeping XP around was to use another MS product, their flight sim. I decided to forgo flight simming, blew away all the partitions on my hard drive, and reinstalled Debian to the whole drive. |
| 17:07.41 | thingfish | I mean, screw MS. |
| 17:07.48 | thingfish | anyway, enough of my rant. |
| 17:09.12 | reto | I've added 'skip ipv6' to my discover.conf file.. perhaps discover loads this module |
| 17:09.28 | thingfish | I wish flightgear were more polished. |
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| 17:12.26 | thingfish | !blacklist |
| 17:12.26 | dpkg | well, blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 17:12.56 | thingfish | tried that, didn't do a thing. |
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| 17:13.53 | thingfish | so now it's, Dr. Strangelove - Or How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love IPV6. |
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| 17:17.01 | mohkohn | Hello. I have a wierd thing going on with my alsa. KDE plays its little song when it starts up but... |
| 17:17.28 | mohkohn | When I try to use streamtuner it tells me it can't open audio |
| 17:17.53 | darkcmd | I hate arts |
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| 17:18.47 | mohkohn | arts is the kde version of esd? |
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| 17:19.32 | thingfish | !arts |
| 17:19.32 | dpkg | i guess arts is the multimedia framework of KDE, or teh sux, or see "esound". Arts Ruins Teh Sound |
| 17:19.34 | cheal | mohkohn: you could say that |
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| 17:19.43 | AtnNn | how can I uninstall a package without running it's uninstall script? |
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| 17:20.04 | cheal | mohkohn: how is mohkohn configured to play? |
| 17:20.16 | mohkohn | cheal? |
| 17:20.23 | mohkohn | Just installed alsa |
| 17:20.24 | cheal | mohkohn: hum |
| 17:20.34 | cheal | mohkohn: how is streamtuner configured to play? |
| 17:20.46 | mohkohn | run alsaconf and alsamixer |
| 17:20.49 | cheal | mohkohn: sorry, waking up brain bug |
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| 17:21.44 | mohkohn | looking in streamtuner preferences |
| 17:21.52 | mohkohn | doesn't really say. |
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| 17:22.06 | mohkohn | I am going to try a regular cd |
| 17:22.30 | cheal | mohkohn: what does $ artsshell status; say when it can't play? |
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| 17:23.10 | mohkohn | It plays a normal cd |
| 17:23.11 | cheal | mohkohn: $ artsshell status|head -1; even |
| 17:23.31 | asdf_qwert | Is someone around with little experience in installing debian with a bootable floppy on an old thinkpad? |
| 17:23.44 | mohkohn | can't create mcop directory |
| 17:23.44 | mohkohn | Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root" |
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| 17:24.01 | reto | hi |
| 17:24.10 | _Godlike_ | Hi |
| 17:24.14 | cheal | mohkohn: that's what artsshell says? |
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| 17:24.18 | reto | I've activated the bootlogd in /etc/default/bootlogd |
| 17:24.20 | mohkohn | yep |
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| 17:24.30 | reto | and restarted the system.. but there's no boot log |
| 17:24.35 | reto | in /var/log |
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| 17:24.44 | reto | any ideas what the problem could be? |
| 17:24.55 | cheal | reto: did you see an error regarding bootlog during the boot |
| 17:25.04 | reto | cheal: on the console' |
| 17:25.11 | cheal | reto: yes |
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| 17:25.18 | reto | cheal: well.. no console here..:) |
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| 17:25.31 | cheal | reto: how come? |
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| 17:25.48 | reto | cheal: it's a remotly controlled server.. well.. it's in the basement.. |
| 17:25.50 | cheal | mohkohn: I don't know. are KDE apps using sound working? |
| 17:25.51 | reto | :D |
| 17:26.12 | cheal | reto: try checking dmesg for a bootlog-related error |
| 17:26.24 | reto | nothing |
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| 17:26.28 | mohkohn | cheal seems to just be streamtuner |
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| 17:26.32 | reto | cheal: do you use the bootlogd? if yes, could you check the links in rc.d |
| 17:26.38 | Goat25 | my bind 9 is starting with 5 worker threads, but i only have 1 CPU and i'm not specifying the -n option to named...any ideas why i'm getting 5 threads? |
| 17:26.46 | reto | cheal: on my system there are only start links in the runlevel S |
| 17:26.52 | mohkohn | I am listening to a regular cd with xmms |
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| 17:27.19 | cheal | mohkohn: artsshell status' output is still strange. I'd try to investigate that before anything else |
| 17:27.30 | reto | cheal: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/cC4cHb16.html well.. that looks wrong. but I've never changed that.. |
| 17:28.17 | cheal | reto: anyone should have that symlink |
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| 17:28.29 | mtance- | hi |
| 17:28.33 | mtance- | i have problem |
| 17:28.47 | mtance- | how i install apache2 php and mysql? |
| 17:28.51 | reto | cheal: hm? |
| 17:28.57 | cheal | reto: why do you think it looks wrong? |
| 17:29.18 | reto | cheal: well.. no Start symlink in the runlevel 2.. but I'm not sure.. |
| 17:29.20 | cheal | reto: the /etc/rcS.d/S05bootlogd should come by default |
| 17:29.26 | reto | ah.. I see |
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| 17:29.38 | reto | so.. init first starts everything in S and the nin 2? |
| 17:29.41 | mtance- | how i install apache2 php and mysql? what is command ? |
| 17:29.42 | cheal | reto: no need, the start symlink is in runlevel S |
| 17:30.28 | cheal | reto: if you boot to runlevel 2, yes |
| 17:30.45 | _unstable | I want to make a very low power laptop/tablet(I want something that will run for 4 hours or more and be small/light) and I want it to run debian. But I've only built desktops..and I don't know anything about non-x86. Anyone have any good guides for me about building laptops/tablets? should I use arm architecture or what(for low power) not sure about what parts and if they will fit with each other etc.(and of course debian will go on this) |
| 17:30.59 | _unstable | mtnman: apt-get -y install apache2 php4 mysql-server |
| 17:31.09 | cheal | _unstable: mtance_ left |
| 17:31.27 | _unstable | thanks |
| 17:31.41 | thingfish | I didn't know you could get laptop parts to build from. |
| 17:31.58 | mohkohn | cheal I had a root shell open. As user server status: suspended |
| 17:32.00 | _unstable | my friend builds x86 laptops on ebay |
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| 17:32.09 | _unstable | He makes like a 1 ghz 512 megs of ram laptop for like 150 bucks |
| 17:32.20 | _unstable | If you buy all the parts seperately you get really good deals. imho |
| 17:32.26 | thingfish | _unstable: he actually builds them, or just resells them? |
| 17:32.34 | thingfish | I see. |
| 17:32.38 | _unstable | nah, he just makes them for fun and keeps them. |
| 17:32.42 | _unstable | he doesn't sell. |
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| 17:33.29 | _unstable | I want to do something like that, except make my laptop small/very light. And 4+ hours of battery life. So I"m leaning towards the arm architecture, which is low power, and debian supports it. |
| 17:33.33 | _unstable | And a low power lcd |
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| 17:34.33 | _unstable | I figured someone in here might have done it, and could point me to a guide, or give me some pointers. |
| 17:34.55 | thingfish | sorry, just done desktops, myself. |
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| 17:37.05 | fwhite | does anyone in the room know how to get the wireless workin on a Thinkpad X22? i've tried Kpackage to set up a driver, and even used a custom driver, but still no luck. |
| 17:37.07 | asdf_qwert | floppy=thinkpad... does anyone know an alternative if that doesn't work? |
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| 17:38.22 | Eulex | fwhite, chipset? |
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| 17:38.25 | fwhite | i have it installed on the hard drive though. |
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| 17:38.38 | fwhite | how do i find out the chipset? |
| 17:38.59 | reto | well.. bootlogd reports: ioctl (/dev/ttyzf, TIOCCONS) Bad file descriptor.. |
| 17:39.16 | reto | and then null symbol found |
| 17:39.20 | pzn | Hi! I'd like to use in a script "ssh root@remotehost halt". I'll use public key auth. I'd like ssh to fail if public key auth fails. I don't want it to try keyboard auth. any hint? |
| 17:39.23 | reto | I'm using udev.. |
| 17:39.29 | reto | perhaps thats the problem? |
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| 17:40.36 | fwhite | one thing i do know is that iwconfig comes up with a warning which states: recommended version 18 of Wireless Extension, but has been compiled with version 17. |
| 17:40.51 | reto | http://www.timhardy.net/wordpress/2005/12/11/enabling-bootlogd-on-debian-31/ thats the solution |
| 17:41.07 | Eulex | fwhite, you said you used another custom driver... what driver you use depends on what chipset you have. |
| 17:41.16 | Eulex | !laptop |
| 17:41.16 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 17:41.25 | Eulex | fwhite, ^^ you could check there |
| 17:41.42 | fwhite | i know. i been trying to look that up but i'm not sure which command to use to get the chipset info. |
| 17:42.12 | _unstable | fwhite: lspci |
| 17:42.19 | fwhite | :) |
| 17:42.45 | fwhite | sweet! :) |
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| 17:43.32 | fwhite | Prism 2.5 Wavelan Chipset (rev 01) |
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| 17:45.32 | fwhite | the corperation is Intersil |
| 17:46.06 | bighorn | Is the Gnome version in Sarge the latest Gnome version? |
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| 17:46.23 | Eulex | fwhite, you should be able to just modprobe orinoco_pci |
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| 17:47.52 | fwhite | done. |
| 17:47.56 | fwhite | i used sudo to do it. |
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| 17:48.21 | broomy | whats the command for seeing my ip, netmask and so on? |
| 17:48.21 | Eulex | fwhite, then search for the access point with iwlist scanning, connect to it with iwconfig ethX essid foo. then either setup the ip stuff with ifconfig (if you don't use dhcp) or run dhclient (if you use dhcp) |
| 17:48.27 | OfficeChair | I am trying to use Software Suspend (NOT Software Suspend 2) with kernel 2.6.8 (I used apt to get the kernel source.) |
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| 17:48.30 | Eulex | broomy, ifconfig |
| 17:48.54 | OfficeChair | I compiled it with swsusp option, but I can't initiate a software suspend. |
| 17:49.01 | broomy | Eulex, thanks |
| 17:49.18 | OfficeChair | Has anyone used software suspend? |
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| 17:49.54 | _unstable | fwhite: /j 2 |
| 17:50.14 | OfficeChair | My other option is to use kernel 2.6.15, which is able to use ACPI suspend to RAM flawlessly with my Toshiba laptop. |
| 17:50.49 | Eulex | broomy, yw :) |
| 17:51.15 | OfficeChair | But I couldn't find ALSA modules for kernel 2.6.15, and I failed to compile my own with the alsa-driver package. (I think the instructions were outdated.) |
| 17:51.51 | Eulex | OfficeChair, the alsa modules are included in the kernel. |
| 17:53.29 | Eulex | OfficeChair, that is, if you choose to include them when configuring it. if it's an official debian 2.6.15 kernel image, it will include the alsa drivers. |
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| 17:54.23 | OfficeChair | Eulex: No, O cimpiled witha vanilla 2.6.15 kernel source. |
| 17:54.45 | OfficeChair | Eulex: There is a 2.6.15 kernel image available, in unstable? |
| 17:54.46 | Brumac | Anyone use the Windows Terminal Service ICAC (Citrix Client)? |
| 17:55.10 | Brumac | MS/Windows under linux |
| 17:55.25 | blondie | umm |
| 17:55.26 | ejofee_ | how do i change settings in motif? what is its config file? |
| 17:55.29 | blondie | is that like rdesktop? |
| 17:55.37 | Brumac | dunno I am trying to install it now |
| 17:55.43 | Brumac | I use vnc |
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| 17:55.46 | Brumac | which is fine with me |
| 17:55.50 | Brumac | but boss wants citrix |
| 17:55.54 | blondie | :| |
| 17:56.19 | cheal | OfficeChair: yes |
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| 17:56.32 | Brumac | Citrix provides remote access to MS/Windows within GNU/Linux, using the Windows Terminal Server (WTS). This is commercial software, although the clients (for a variety of platforms, including GNU/Linux and Java) are available for download. |
| 17:56.35 | nobru | alguem br |
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| 17:56.49 | cheal | !br |
| 17:56.50 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 17:57.01 | nobru | alguem usa o kppp 2.4.3 |
| 17:57.24 | cheal | bighorn: no |
| 17:57.36 | cheal | nobru: #debian-br |
| 17:57.41 | nobru | sim |
| 17:57.45 | nobru | como vou para la |
| 17:57.57 | azeem | nobru: "/join #debian-br" |
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| 17:59.13 | Brumac | bah |
| 17:59.26 | Brumac | I type vncserver -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24 |
| 17:59.34 | Brumac | and it says it is running |
| 17:59.37 | Brumac | but I cannot vnc into it |
| 17:59.41 | Brumac | arg! |
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| 17:59.48 | Eulex | Brumac, citrix *shudder* |
| 17:59.53 | Brumac | ...I was just in it |
| 17:59.54 | cheal | mohkohn: ah, ok. so the problem is specific to streamtuner? |
| 18:00.04 | Brumac | Eulex atm I am using vnc |
| 18:00.10 | mohkohn | yes cheal sorry been away |
| 18:00.15 | Brumac | and for some reason its timin gout |
| 18:00.21 | Brumac | wtf |
| 18:00.35 | zebalin4 | Tip: if you upgrade Etch, after reboot you may get "can't start kdeinit". It will start after you click ok. Then downgrade libxft2 to (from) stable. |
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| 18:00.41 | Eulex | Brumac, never managed to get the citrix client for linux working. ended up installing w2k in qemu and installing the citrix client inside it. |
| 18:00.42 | cheal | mohkohn: sorry, I don't know about that app. maybe the BTS can help you |
| 18:00.53 | Brumac | ah |
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| 18:01.25 | mohkohn | I am going to try it in gnome. Just installed the gnome. |
| 18:01.34 | Brumac | (dumb question) in debian how do I check to make sure vncserver service is running? |
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| 18:02.05 | Eulex | Brumac, ps aux. ps aux|grep vns should find it. |
| 18:02.17 | Brumac | ty |
| 18:02.31 | ejofee_ | how do i change settings in motif? what is its config file? |
| 18:02.52 | Brumac | I used alien to install the citrix ICAC client |
| 18:03.02 | Brumac | and for some reason still cant run the citrix client |
| 18:03.21 | Eulex | OfficeChair, yes, but you can't install that package. get the backport from backports.org. |
| 18:03.58 | Brumac | I try typing /usr/lib/ICAClient/wfcmgr and get the error line 161: xterm: command not found |
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| 18:04.09 | Brumac | anyone know what xterm is? |
| 18:04.21 | Brumac | oooh an emulator |
| 18:04.29 | Eulex | terminal emulator |
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| 18:04.41 | abrotman | man xterm ? |
| 18:04.43 | Brumac | The xterm program is a terminal emulator for the X Window System yup duh |
| 18:04.48 | Brumac | sorry |
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| 18:06.54 | justin | it should be running x-terminal-emulator and not xterm.. figures it runs the wrong thing since you used alien to install it |
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| 18:10.32 | abrotman | !moo |
| 18:10.32 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 18:11.08 | Eulex | !apt-get moo |
| 18:11.08 | dpkg | ...."Have you mooed today?"... |
| 18:11.15 | Eulex | !aptitude moo |
| 18:11.15 | dpkg | well, aptitude moo is a hidden thingy... try aptitude moo with -v option, or with -vv or -vvv and so on... ;) |
| 18:11.21 | Eulex | !apt-build moo |
| 18:11.27 | Eulex | :( |
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| 18:11.42 | OfficeChair | apt-get moo nice ASCII art :) |
| 18:11.50 | Eulex | dpkg, apt-build moo is ..."Have you danced today? Discow!"... |
| 18:11.50 | dpkg | okay, Eulex |
| 18:11.57 | bighorn | anyone using gabber? what is the newest version? |
| 18:12.39 | Brumac | w00t |
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| 18:12.41 | Brumac | got citrix to work |
| 18:12.44 | Brumac | well the client anyway |
| 18:12.47 | Brumac | was xterm |
| 18:12.59 | llvllatrix | I'm not exactly sure why, but since my apt-get upgrade, my machine has been running considerabely slower. |
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| 18:13.29 | Eulex | llvllatrix, checked top? btw, running testing? |
| 18:13.41 | asdf_qwert | I'm trying to install linux (debian, slackware so far) on a IBM ThinkPad 370C (486DX4 with 20MB RAM). Unfortunately I can't even boot a kernel for install purposes. Even by typing floppy=thinkpad, it doesn't work. And accoding to this link http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html an installation should pose no such problems |
| 18:14.18 | llvllatrix | eulex: running testing |
| 18:14.35 | llvllatrix | eulex: checked to; things seem normla |
| 18:14.43 | llvllatrix | eulex: *normal |
| 18:14.59 | OfficeChair | I see a lot of 486 packages in backports. Does Debian really run on a 486? |
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| 18:15.13 | Eulex | OfficeChair, yes it does |
| 18:15.32 | Eulex | llvllatrix, then this is probably due to the upgrade to xorg 6.9.0 |
| 18:15.33 | OfficeChair | That makes Debian even better. :) |
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| 18:15.56 | llvllatrix | eulex: any way to fix? |
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| 18:16.26 | Eulex | llvllatrix, I don't know. what exactly is slower? |
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| 18:16.49 | llvllatrix | well, my graphics acceleration took a hit |
| 18:17.11 | OfficeChair | What is the difference between linux-image and kernel-image? Linux is a kernel. |
| 18:17.20 | llvllatrix | i think most of my x apps are running slower in general |
| 18:17.33 | asg | OfficeChair: the name was changed since debian contains kernels that aren't linux |
| 18:17.34 | Anthro | OfficeChair: There are kernels other than Linux. |
| 18:17.36 | zebalin4 | abrotman: beep!! I had SAME problem as you after major etch upgrade yesterday. but I had no sound at ALL. Some alsa button had to be turned on. PITA to find. |
| 18:17.39 | SAAD3000 | where I can download manually the latest kernel.dpkg? |
| 18:17.49 | OfficeChair | Anthro: I understand that. |
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| 18:17.57 | zebalin4 | abrotman: alsa is evil. |
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| 18:18.01 | Anthro | OfficeChair: That's why it was renamed. |
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| 18:18.12 | llvllatrix | i got horrible preformance out of a gl demo i was working on |
| 18:18.18 | OfficeChair | Anthro: Such as the NetBSD kernel on my NetBSD-running Armada. :) |
| 18:18.22 | ringo999 | hi there. what is the default keybinding with xfce for changing desktops? |
| 18:18.30 | Eulex | llvllatrix, sure you've got any 3d acceleration at all? |
| 18:18.49 | llvllatrix | eulex: should i revert to an earlier version of x? |
| 18:18.52 | zebalin4 | brb |
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| 18:19.19 | llvllatrix | eulex: i'm not sure, no |
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| 18:19.31 | Eulex | ringo999, ctrl-f1, ctrl-f2, etc, and ctrl-alt-right, ctrl-alt-left. check the window manager, keyboard tab, for all. |
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| 18:19.35 | llvllatrix | eulex: i was thinking of reinstalling my nvidia driver but i dont think the upgrade altered that; very unlikely |
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| 18:19.54 | Eulex | llvllatrix, glxinfo|grep direct? |
| 18:20.22 | Eulex | ringo999, of course you can alter it. I alter it to alt-f1, alt-f2 etc as fast as I can :) |
| 18:20.30 | ringo999 | Eulex: cool, thax |
| 18:20.49 | Eulex | ringo999, yw :) |
| 18:20.58 | llvllatrix | eulex: direct rendering: No |
| 18:21.05 | llvllatrix | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect |
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| 18:21.09 | ringo999 | Eulex: i now have gnome/kde/xfce installed... whats is so good about xfce? its faster? |
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| 18:21.20 | OfficeChair | Okay, so linux image 2.6.15 from backports.org will include ALSA modules, or is that a separate |
| 18:21.26 | OfficeChair | package? |
| 18:21.28 | Eulex | llvllatrix, then there's your problem. check your X log. |
| 18:21.33 | Eulex | OfficeChair, it will include them. |
| 18:21.39 | llvllatrix | k |
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| 18:22.14 | freeone3000 | version.h seems to be missing from the kernel source... And the nvidia drivers seem to require it. |
| 18:22.23 | abrotman | OfficeChair: should be in int |
| 18:22.26 | abrotman | in it |
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| 18:23.01 | Eulex | ringo999, yes, it's faster, and it takes a middle stance between amount of choices, while gnome has as few choices as possible and kde has too many. and also, it's visually appealing, imho. |
| 18:23.38 | Neverth | Xchat 2.6.1-1 on debian sid (unstable) won't co-operate, it starts runs some timw, then takes 100%cpu and requires killing the process |
| 18:23.47 | llvllatrix | eulex: apparently something went wrong with the glx module; recommends reinstalling nvidia driver |
| 18:23.55 | Eulex | Neverth, checked the bts? |
| 18:24.01 | llvllatrix | eulex: will try that; thanks for your help :) |
| 18:24.03 | Neverth | bts? |
| 18:24.06 | Eulex | llvllatrix, ok. yw :) |
| 18:24.10 | Eulex | !btssmite Neverth |
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| 18:24.44 | surge | If I'm running a minimal Slackware install, would it be possible to run the Debian installer and just install over the top, without booting from a CD/floppy? |
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| 18:25.02 | Neverth | but none xchat package above sarge won't work here, not even etch packages |
| 18:25.12 | Eulex | surge, sure, try debtakeover |
| 18:25.17 | Eulex | !debtakeover |
| 18:25.17 | dpkg | Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin. |
| 18:25.28 | surge | Eulex: Fantastic, thanks! |
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| 18:25.47 | blondie | debian takeover sounds... dirty to me :| |
| 18:26.06 | OfficeChair | surge: Isn't there something like slapt-get for Slackware? I used to use Slackware since 7.0. |
| 18:26.08 | m1ke_l | all hail debian |
| 18:26.19 | m1ke_l | slapt and swaret for slackware |
| 18:26.20 | nvz_ | horay |
| 18:26.33 | surge | OfficeChair: Yea, but I'd like to try Debian. |
| 18:26.48 | Eulex | Neverth, check the bts. if there's no bug for it, file one. that way it will be solved faster. also, unstable *does* break sometimes, you should know that as a user of it. you can also try to get an older xchat package from /msg dpkg sdn |
| 18:26.53 | Eulex | surge, yw :) |
| 18:26.55 | surge | It's on my laptop, it'll take me forever to get slack installed, as I only have one floppy disk. |
| 18:27.15 | m1ke_l | can you network install slack? |
| 18:27.58 | OfficeChair | m1ke_l: I don't remember that function. |
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| 18:28.03 | kspath | m1ke_l: can you take that lack question to another channel related to slack jaw |
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| 18:28.17 | abrotman | !debootstrap |
| 18:28.18 | dpkg | debootstrap is, like, <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a chroot. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html |
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| 18:28.36 | OfficeChair | kspath: Slackjaw? |
| 18:28.52 | kspath | OfficeChair: Lackware |
| 18:29.12 | freeone3000 | ...Until someone fixes teh package kernel-kbuild-2.6.3, I can't install nvidia drivers using the one-liner. So I have to use their driver plus kernel source. However, kernel source is missing version.h |
| 18:29.46 | Eulex | freeone3000, well, what does apt-get install kernel-kbuild-2.6.3 say? |
| 18:30.11 | freeone3000 | THis package cannot be found. It is refrenced by other packages. |
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| 18:30.26 | freeone3000 | So that means someone probably fsckd up. |
| 18:30.31 | freeone3000 | More verbosely, of course. |
| 18:30.40 | Eulex | freeone3000, stable, testing or unstable? |
| 18:30.46 | freeone3000 | Testing. |
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| 18:31.31 | FallOnMe | freeone3000: you could make a dummy and put it in a local repository to quiet apt's nagging. |
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| 18:31.35 | Eulex | freeone3000, it's kernel-kbuild-2.6-3, not kernel-kbuild-2.6.3 |
| 18:31.35 | ufo_dark | buenas a todos |
| 18:32.07 | freeone3000 | Package kernel-kbuild-2.6-3 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 18:32.07 | freeone3000 | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 18:32.08 | freeone3000 | is only available from another source |
| 18:32.12 | FallOnMe | freeone3000: if a package is missing, that is. |
| 18:32.15 | freeone3000 | Okay, that's teh exact one... |
| 18:32.29 | Eulex | freeone3000, and no, it doesn't seem to be available in etch |
| 18:32.31 | ufo_dark | me podrian ayudar a adquirir los 15 cd's del debian |
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| 18:32.39 | Eulex | !es |
| 18:32.39 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:33.05 | kspath | !tell kspath about es |
| 18:33.09 | ufo_dark | #debian-peru |
| 18:33.43 | FallOnMe | freeone3000: looks like it's available in stable... |
| 18:33.44 | OfficeChair | Ack! I need udev to install the newer initramfs tools so I can install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686, but apt-get says it needs to reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 first! |
| 18:33.45 | abrotman | no .. #debian-es |
| 18:33.59 | blondie | #debian-gibberish ? |
| 18:34.12 | kspath | !tell ufo_dark about es |
| 18:34.13 | freeone3000 | Ah, the joys of testing. |
| 18:34.34 | Eulex | freeone3000, the problem is that kernel 2.6.8 is not supported or available in testing anymore. you can either get the package from sarge or upgrade to at least a 2.6.12 kernel. btw, you need that for the udev in testing. |
| 18:34.37 | oskie | is there a way to minimize services downtime during apt-get upgrade - it seems the priority order of apt-get seems to be to unpack as many as possible, then setup/postinst all in order... it would be smarter to unpack as few as possible, and setup ASAP |
| 18:34.38 | OfficeChair | Now what do I do? |
| 18:34.52 | abrotman | install them all |
| 18:35.11 | freeone3000 | Alright, thanks. |
| 18:35.15 | OfficeChair | I can't. |
| 18:35.19 | Eulex | oskie, upgrade all manually? |
| 18:35.47 | oskie | Eulex: too much work, no? |
| 18:35.50 | abrotman | OfficeChair: how about you give us the actual error ? |
| 18:35.57 | oskie | Eulex: but you're right ... it seems to be the only way ATM |
| 18:36.02 | Eulex | oskie, not if uptime is very valuable. |
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| 18:37.10 | OfficeChair | While trying to dpkg -i initramfs-tools 0.49 form backports: initramfs-tools depends on udev (>= 0.076-5); however: Package udev is not installed. |
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| 18:37.36 | freeone3000 | Eulex: Just ran apt-get update, seems like 2.6.8 is in there, but not 2.6.12... just 2.6.11. That close neough? |
| 18:37.39 | yos87 | hi |
| 18:37.43 | abrotman | so freaking install it |
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| 18:37.52 | OfficeChair | abrotman: Obviously, I tried to. |
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| 18:37.59 | freeone3000 | Sorry, misread, it's 2.6.8-11 |
| 18:38.08 | abrotman | OfficeChair: did you try to install them both on the same command? |
| 18:38.14 | OfficeChair | No. |
| 18:38.17 | FallOnMe | OfficeChair: can't you dpkg -i package1 package2 ? |
| 18:38.17 | Eulex | OfficeChair, hmm. heard about this before. you'll have to go via the 2.6.12 kernel. install it, reboot with it, then install the new udev and the new kernel. |
| 18:38.39 | abrotman | Eulex: no .12 anymore |
| 18:38.39 | Eulex | abrotman, udev refuses to install if you don't have a 2.6.12 kernel or greater running. |
| 18:38.49 | Eulex | abrotman, hmm, didn't know that |
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| 18:39.00 | abrotman | !lart jabber.org |
| 18:39.13 | ut319 | who here has AoE II? |
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| 18:39.24 | Eulex | ut319, I do! I do! |
| 18:39.29 | ut319 | lol |
| 18:39.36 | OfficeChair | apt-get install udev: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `linux-image-2.6.15-1-686' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. |
| 18:39.42 | FallOnMe | ut319: for Debian? :-) |
| 18:39.42 | ut319 | you got the expansion? |
| 18:39.44 | yos87 | how can I get the right side bar in this picture http://www.schnitzer.at/dominik/debian-shot.png |
| 18:39.51 | Eulex | ut319, yep. |
| 18:40.04 | freeone3000 | Doesn't look like there's a precompiled kernel for my arch (386) just 486 and 686... |
| 18:40.09 | ut319 | could you tell me the contents of the AoK disc? |
| 18:40.18 | blondie | you have a 386? wow |
| 18:40.21 | abrotman | or OfficeChair could use backports the way it was intended? |
| 18:40.31 | Eulex | ut319, umh... why? |
| 18:40.37 | OfficeChair | I tried apt-get install udev again and got: E: The package linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 18:40.41 | ut319 | lol... |
| 18:40.42 | blondie | freeone3000: what are you talking about, there's a kernel for 386 |
| 18:40.43 | ut319 | err... |
| 18:40.46 | jor | yos87: gdesklets |
| 18:40.57 | ut319 | one could guess |
| 18:41.05 | freeone3000 | blondie: apt-cache search kernel-image doesn't seem to be giving me it. |
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| 18:41.23 | OfficeChair | Now what? |
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| 18:41.27 | Eulex | freeone3000, it's linux-image nowadays. |
| 18:41.27 | yos87 | jor: I had download it, but it's not there |
| 18:41.30 | abrotman | OfficeChair: add the freaking source line |
| 18:41.34 | freeone3000 | Eulex: Oh, thanks. |
| 18:41.35 | yos87 | jor: and it give so many error |
| 18:41.38 | abrotman | OfficeChair: and use pinning |
| 18:41.47 | blondie | Eulex: kernel-image seems to find linux-image ones too |
| 18:41.54 | blondie | freeone3000: you've really got a 365? |
| 18:41.57 | blondie | *386 |
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| 18:42.16 | Naz_ | hey |
| 18:42.28 | Naz_ | I need help with installing themes in webmin |
| 18:42.32 | Naz_ | I install the theme |
| 18:42.32 | ut319 | Eulex. I borrowed it and decided i was going to rip it, but I put all the files in one folder lmao |
| 18:42.37 | Naz_ | it says it installed |
| 18:42.39 | jor | yos87: apt-get it, configuration of it is a mess, but read the documentation that comes with it |
| 18:42.41 | Eulex | blondie, yep, but he may have been searching with --names-only |
| 18:42.42 | freeone3000 | Ehm... it's the one that works and the one I've always been told I had when I asked for help. Personally, I've never checked. |
| 18:42.47 | Naz_ | but it doesn't show up of the list of themes |
| 18:42.56 | blondie | freeone3000: 386 = CPU from the 1980s... |
| 18:42.57 | OfficeChair | abrotman: Source line? |
| 18:43.00 | blondie | what CPU do you have? |
| 18:43.06 | freeone3000 | AMD Athelon 2200+ XP. |
| 18:43.14 | blondie | well get the K7 one instead |
| 18:43.17 | Naz_ | can anyone help me? |
| 18:43.23 | freeone3000 | Kay, thank you. |
| 18:43.25 | abrotman | OfficeChair: did you read *anything* at backports.org . or did you just blindly start installing stuff and screw up your machine ? |
| 18:43.39 | OfficeChair | abrotman: The latter |
| 18:43.42 | Naz_ | hello? |
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| 18:44.14 | Naz_ | HELLO? |
| 18:44.16 | mfrisch | hello world |
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| 18:44.20 | Naz_ | : |
| 18:44.21 | Naz_ | :P |
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| 18:44.24 | Naz_ | I need help |
| 18:44.37 | mfrisch | Naz_ what?~? |
| 18:44.37 | DaBPunkt | We guest that ;-) |
| 18:44.40 | OfficeChair | abrotman: I am in a hurry, I barely have time to even do this. |
| 18:44.43 | Naz_ | webmin installs the themes |
| 18:44.44 | freeone3000 | Naz_: Yeah... I'm sure you do... never head of webmin, never used it, can't help you. |
| 18:44.45 | blondie | Naz_: hush |
| 18:44.50 | Naz_ | but it doesn't show up on the list |
| 18:44.56 | abrotman | OfficeChair: then why are you? |
| 18:44.57 | blondie | try #webmin or something |
| 18:45.02 | Naz_ | ok |
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| 18:45.11 | bony | how to i configure xterm so that i can make it translucent and also how do i make windows translucent like ? |
| 18:45.17 | mfrisch | Naz_ you need to compile themes for webmin. |
| 18:45.22 | OfficeChair | abrotman: Because if I don't do it now, I won't be able to get to it for a couple months or so. |
| 18:45.25 | abrotman | xterm doesn't support transparency |
| 18:45.28 | freeone3000 | bony: That would be your window manager's job... |
| 18:45.35 | Naz_ | why can't you use the built in theme installer? |
| 18:45.41 | abrotman | OfficeChair: but why are you installing a kernel on it? .. what's wrong with the one in sarge? |
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| 18:46.14 | yos87 | why is the best media player in linux can convert and play |
| 18:46.16 | mfrisch | Naz_ you should be able too ;-) |
| 18:46.17 | ut319 | !lart Eulex |
| 18:46.18 | OfficeChair | abrotman: The one in sarge (2.6.8) won't ACPI suspend properly. |
| 18:46.21 | Naz_ | well, |
| 18:46.39 | bony | freeone3000: the default window manager is metacity now is their any docs or some help sort of thing were i can change my windows to translucent |
| 18:46.42 | Naz_ | it installs in a directorybut the themee doeesn't show up on the list of themese |
| 18:46.43 | Eulex | ut319, pffft |
| 18:46.54 | bony | or is their any window manager which is capable of doing it ? |
| 18:46.59 | ut319 | =P |
| 18:46.59 | freeone3000 | bony: I dunno. Ask google? |
| 18:47.09 | OfficeChair | abrotman: I know 2.6.15 ACPI suspends my Toshiba laptop, because I compiled my own 2.6.15 kernel image from vanilla sources. |
| 18:47.09 | freeone3000 | Lessee. I know afterstep can. |
| 18:47.10 | abrotman | OfficeChair: have you considered your machine doesn't implement the acpi spec properly and will never suspend correctly? |
| 18:47.20 | Eulex | OfficeChair, acpi suspend very rarely works as it should. |
| 18:47.23 | abrotman | oh .. lovely toshiba .. |
| 18:47.26 | mfrisch | Naz_ what directory, you may need to point webmin to it. Why do you need webmin? |
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| 18:47.43 | abrotman | OfficeChair: go read at backports.org .. next time .. READ before you just install random crap |
| 18:47.50 | OfficeChair | abrotman: Yes, I have owned many laptops, and this is the first machine that successfully ACPI S3'd. |
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| 18:47.55 | bony | thanks dude for patiently asnwering |
| 18:47.55 | Naz_ | Its easier since I'm a newbie |
| 18:48.13 | Naz_ | I'm pretty sure the directory is: |
| 18:48.23 | bony | some just put it off but you have politly said google thanks |
| 18:48.26 | Naz_ | /usr/local/share/webmin/ |
| 18:48.42 | OfficeChair | abrotman: I did read the index. |
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| 18:48.42 | freeone3000 | Reminds me of the IDE users on java... They complain that the IDE is messing up everything, when in fact, it is themselves. |
| 18:48.47 | Eulex | Naz_, if you use the cli, you'll learn so much more about how your system actually works, than using some point-and-click 'administrating' tool |
| 18:48.59 | Naz_ | >_> |
| 18:49.10 | OfficeChair | freeone3000: I never blamed anyone. |
| 18:49.15 | Naz_ | I use command line for lmost everything actually |
| 18:49.26 | Naz_ | I only want webmin for remote administration |
| 18:49.29 | freeone3000 | OfficeChair: Directed at Naz_ |
| 18:49.31 | mfrisch | Naz_ thats why Debian does not use /usr/local/ do dpkg -L webmin. You should see where Debian puts the themes |
| 18:49.35 | blondie | Naz_: that's what ssh is for |
| 18:49.37 | abrotman | OfficeChair: did you read the "Installation" page ? |
| 18:49.40 | Eulex | Naz_, try ssh. |
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| 18:49.52 | mfrisch | Naz_ thats what ssh is for |
| 18:49.56 | Eulex | !ssh |
| 18:49.56 | dpkg | ssh is probably Secure SHell, the ssh package in Debian is Portable OpenSSH (www.openssh.org) or for windows clients ask me about putty, or for mac clients ask me about niftytelnet or MacSSH. It's _unwise_ to enable both RSA and pasword authentication. Ask me about rsa, or ask about winscp for a GUI SCP client, or check out http://www.sf.net/projects/shellter for an iptables-based firewall with built-in ssh brute force protection |
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| 18:50.06 | abrotman | or Instructions page |
| 18:50.06 | OfficeChair | dpkg: Just did, hah. :) |
| 18:50.13 | OfficeChair | Err, abrotman |
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| 18:50.25 | OfficeChair | That should be easy to do, just add it to my sources. |
| 18:50.35 | Naz_ | I've installed openssh |
| 18:51.05 | bighorn | I'm getting an error "configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" what do I need to complete? |
| 18:51.09 | mfrisch | Naz_ so ssh hostname.org |
| 18:51.12 | OfficeChair | Naz_: Why not? It is the first thing I install if it isn't already there. Debian has it by default, BTW. |
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| 18:52.12 | mfrisch | Naz_ I'm sshing my host five states away to talk to you guys |
| 18:52.26 | DevilChaos | im having trouble opening terminals in x i click the icon but nothing comes up cant understand what i may have done anyone any ideas? |
| 18:52.27 | Eulex | bighorn, libxml-sax-expat-perl - Perl module for a SAX2 driver for Expat (XML::Parser) |
| 18:52.32 | abrotman | mfrisch: you dork! |
| 18:52.45 | mfrisch | abrotman nerd thank you |
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| 18:52.47 | OfficeChair | Naz_: SSH is essential. Especially when you can do scp file user@othermachine:Directory/ |
| 18:53.03 | Eulex | DevilChaos, do you know what that icon runs? what desktop environment? |
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| 18:53.43 | DevilChaos | Eulex: not spoke to you for a while its gnome-terminal and gnome 2.12 |
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| 18:54.21 | Eulex | DevilChaos, start xterm. and try to start gnome-terminal from that one. that will show you what error it is. |
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| 18:54.56 | DevilChaos | Eulex: from menu in x or tty? |
| 18:55.02 | DevilChaos | sorry |
| 18:55.10 | DevilChaos | little thick on this one# |
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| 18:55.22 | pzn | I will do "svn checkout svn+ssh://mylogin@localhost/some/path". Since user/host is the same, I intend to specify something like "file://". how to do it? using subversion 1.1.4-2(sarge) |
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| 18:55.26 | Eulex | DevilChaos, menu, run as, whatever you like, but it should be in X |
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| 18:55.35 | DevilChaos | k |
| 18:56.04 | Eulex | pzn, svn co file:///some/path/to/repo |
| 18:56.26 | BLAFD | how do you disable artd |
| 18:56.49 | BLAFD | im getting a error from syslogd@debian about it crashing |
| 18:56.50 | Eulex | DevilChaos, you could actually run it from a tty too, if you run DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm |
| 18:56.51 | pzn | Eulex, I was missing a slash... // -> /// thanks! |
| 18:57.07 | OfficeChair | /etc/apt/preferences does not exist, so I created it and added the lines specified in backports.org instructions |
| 18:57.21 | Eulex | pzn, yw :) the two first are for the file:// protocol, the third slash is the root in your fs :) |
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| 18:58.15 | xenix | heh .. i thought you guys might get a kick out of this guys stupid comment |
| 18:58.17 | xenix | <itnomad> I thought Debian was the redhat of europe. |
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| 18:58.35 | xenix | feel free to keep laughing |
| 18:58.36 | pzn | Eulex, ok. the same for browsers. I know it. it was a mistake putting 2 slashes :-) |
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| 19:00.08 | mfrisch | abrotman why has everyone been giving me sh*& here lately? |
| 19:00.08 | OfficeChair | That doesn't sound stupid. It just sounds like his comment lacks facts to back it. |
| 19:00.27 | abrotman | mfrisch: regarding what? |
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| 19:01.37 | mfrisch | abrotman yesturday someone said I was a serial killer. Just more cruel than normal. And they are wanting help too! |
| 19:01.50 | jetscreamer | hey wtf is glu vs glw |
| 19:01.52 | abrotman | mfrisch: kick them in the head! |
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| 19:02.06 | NetGrunt | hi there |
| 19:02.07 | ItsMe | why are you kiilling serial ? |
| 19:02.12 | m1ke_l | hi |
| 19:02.19 | mfrisch | abrotman ;-) they need to check themselves |
| 19:02.23 | jetscreamer | you're a cereal killer |
| 19:02.30 | avar | haha |
| 19:02.36 | OfficeChair | mfrisch: Just change your nickname and don't mention it and maybe you won't have problems, okay? |
| 19:02.37 | mfrisch | sureal killer |
| 19:02.38 | jetscreamer | put those post toasties down |
| 19:02.41 | nvz_ | mfrisch: are you wit the NWA? |
| 19:02.41 | abrotman | mfrisch: kick them in the head!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 19:03.17 | pzn | mfrisch, better being a serial killed than a parallel killer :-) |
| 19:03.21 | fas3r_ | hi all |
| 19:03.26 | beardy | !tell freeone3000 -about root |
| 19:03.29 | DevilChaos | Eulex: cant |
| 19:03.38 | fas3r_ | what's the better for template it's phplib or phpslash or other ? |
| 19:03.44 | NetGrunt | Can anyone please explain me why debian (and almost all other distros) come with the SCSI-emulation enabled by default ? That makes regular SATA drives that should be used as /dev/hdN to be used as /dev/sdN ... that's very annoying because after that, you can't correctly use some tools like smartmontools/hdparm because it says it's an SCSI drive |
| 19:03.45 | abrotman | ask #php ? |
| 19:04.02 | fas3r_ | yep abrotman |
| 19:04.13 | DevilChaos | Eulex: all the mouse curser has the waiting emblem and stopps nothing happens |
| 19:04.18 | mfrisch | nvz I am enlightened to all of music nwa thats Old school. |
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| 19:04.49 | Eulex | DevilChaos, try DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm in a tty |
| 19:04.50 | Naz_ | I need a bit of help |
| 19:04.54 | Naz_ | again :P |
| 19:05.07 | DevilChaos | Eulex: i can get root-terminal though with the password prompt |
| 19:05.10 | DevilChaos | k |
| 19:05.20 | Naz_ | what should I use to connect from my mac to an openssh server on my lin? |
| 19:05.36 | Naz_ | any good program? |
| 19:05.36 | beardy | Naz_: A ssh client. |
| 19:05.44 | Naz_ | any specific one I mean |
| 19:05.48 | mfrisch | Naz_ man use google |
| 19:05.59 | beardy | Naz_: Ask #macosx or similar though, if that's what you are running. |
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| 19:06.27 | bighorn | getting this error while configuring: How do I fix in Sarge?==> checking for gtkmm-2.0 gconfmm-2.0 libglademm-2.0... Package gtkmm-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtkmm-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtkmm-2.0' found |
| 19:06.34 | rambo3 | how do i dissable massages in terminal like :localhost kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode |
| 19:06.52 | Eulex | DevilChaos, no, login as the same user in the tty as in X |
| 19:06.53 | beardy | Naz_: They must surely have 'ssh'? |
| 19:07.15 | DevilChaos | Eulex: -bash command not found yes i am the same user in tty |
| 19:07.16 | abrotman | bighorn: need a -dev package |
| 19:07.18 | beardy | Naz_: The only time I used macosx it was available anyway. |
| 19:07.31 | Eulex | DevilChaos, you haven't got any xterm installed? that sure explains it |
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| 19:07.44 | freeone3000 | Fine then. No root. |
| 19:07.44 | DevilChaos | ah |
| 19:08.16 | DevilChaos | Eulex: matbe got removed while updateing |
| 19:08.21 | DevilChaos | damn typos |
| 19:08.26 | DevilChaos | maybes |
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| 19:08.43 | freeone3000 | I have my media player on a song. The song appears to be playing. My speakers are plugged in, have the green light, and are at an approiate volume. This is metallica, so that's all the way up. However, no sound is reaching my ears. |
| 19:08.44 | bighorn | abrotman, how to know which -dev? |
| 19:08.46 | Eulex | DevilChaos, maybe. apt-cache policy xterm, apt-cache policy gnome-terminal |
| 19:08.48 | abrotman | my xterm recently moved .. or appeared to anyways |
| 19:09.01 | abrotman | !find gtkmm-2.0.pc sarge |
| 19:09.03 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search gtkmm |
| 19:09.11 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gtkmm-2.0.pc' (1): (/usr/lib/pkgconfig/gtkmm-2.0.pc) in libdevel/libgtkmm2.0-dev. |
| 19:09.15 | abrotman | bighorn: ^^ |
| 19:09.17 | Eulex | freeone3000, is your volume levels on your sound cards up? |
| 19:09.23 | Eulex | *are |
| 19:09.37 | freeone3000 | Eulex: I have no idea. How would I check this? |
| 19:09.37 | Eulex | *card |
| 19:09.42 | Eulex | freeone3000, run alsamixer. |
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| 19:10.35 | DevilChaos | Eulex: xterm not installed and gnome-terminal is 2.12-0-2 |
| 19:10.35 | freeone3000 | bash: alsamixer: command not found |
| 19:10.49 | abrotman | install it ? |
| 19:11.14 | DevilChaos | ah |
| 19:11.15 | Eulex | freeone3000, get alsa. it's superior to oss. apt-get install alsa-utils alsa-base && alsaconf |
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| 19:11.30 | Eulex | DevilChaos, DISPLAY=:0.0 gnome-terminal? |
| 19:11.36 | freeone3000 | Eulex: Okay, soon as I get kernel sources. |
| 19:11.46 | abrotman | !sux |
| 19:11.46 | dpkg | somebody said sux was su with xauth, to run X apps as root: http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ or sucks, or "I have an exagerrated opinion about something I don't really know much about.", or apt-get install sux, or something that anyone who spells "sucks" as "sux" does. |
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| 19:12.10 | abrotman | alsa is in 2.6.x that are in debian |
| 19:12.17 | Eulex | freeone3000, why compile? |
| 19:12.43 | beardy | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.43 | dpkg | On Sarge with a 2.6 kernel, to use ALSA, apt-get install alsa-utils discover1. You may need to run alsaconf too. No more faffing about with OSS modules. Remember to tell your applications and libraries to use alsa, to get any benefit. |
| 19:12.48 | abrotman | because it's so fucking l337 |
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| 19:12.55 | freeone3000 | Eulex: Not getting to compile, getting to use for nvidia driver beacuse the one liner thing gave me a problem which I can't remember right now and am probably going to have to give to you so you can fix it. |
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| 19:15.07 | Eulex | freeone3000, ah. do you need the full source for that and not just the headers? |
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| 19:15.59 | freeone3000 | Oh, duh... Thanks. |
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| 19:16.18 | DevilChaos | Eulex: sybol lookup error |
| 19:16.29 | DevilChaos | symbol |
| 19:16.35 | DevilChaos | damn typos |
| 19:16.42 | freeone3000 | ...Oh. SIGSEGV doesn't look good. |
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| 19:17.24 | Eulex | DevilChaos, hmm... stable, testing, unstable? (think I already asked you, but can't remember) |
| 19:17.37 | DevilChaos | testing |
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| 19:18.06 | fas3r_ | anybody know if it's possible to include php code in set_var for template ? |
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| 19:18.10 | abrotman | ask #php |
| 19:18.14 | abrotman | ikks_bot: hi |
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| 19:18.23 | fas3r_ | abrotman, yes i have but anybody know .. |
| 19:18.26 | ikks_bot | abrotman: Error: "hi" is not a valid command. |
| 19:18.29 | onweald_tim | When I boot after a grub install, I get a flashing cursor. There is a pause then the cursor moves down two lines. Any ideas why this is happening? |
| 19:18.34 | freeone3000 | Brb, killing gui and crap. |
| 19:18.37 | abrotman | ikks_bot: eat ikks |
| 19:18.38 | ikks_bot | abrotman: Error: "eat" is not a valid command. |
| 19:18.43 | abrotman | ikks_bot: die |
| 19:18.43 | ikks_bot | abrotman: Error: "die" is not a valid command. |
| 19:18.54 | abrotman | !hi |
| 19:18.54 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 19:18.56 | fas3r_ | ikks_bot, killall |
| 19:18.57 | ikks_bot | fas3r_: Error: "killall" is not a valid command. |
| 19:19.01 | fas3r_ | ikks_bot, kill |
| 19:19.02 | ikks_bot | fas3r_: Error: "kill" is not a valid command. |
| 19:19.07 | fas3r_ | ikks_bot, close |
| 19:19.07 | ikks_bot | fas3r_: Error: "close" is not a valid command. |
| 19:19.09 | ikks | wait, |
| 19:19.13 | onweald_tim | All faqs for grub start at phase 1. Nothing to troubleshoot before that. |
| 19:19.16 | abrotman | ikks: get your bot out of here please :) |
| 19:19.17 | fas3r_ | ikks_bot, hello |
| 19:19.17 | ikks_bot | fas3r_: Error: "hello" is not a valid command. |
| 19:19.18 | ikks | just for record the channel. |
| 19:19.25 | abrotman | ikks: that's not allowed |
| 19:19.27 | ikks | ok, I?l do |
| 19:19.27 | fas3r_ | ikks_bot, test |
| 19:19.28 | ikks_bot | fas3r_: Error: "test" is not a valid command. |
| 19:19.33 | ikks | sorry |
| 19:19.34 | fas3r_ | ikks_bot, abrotman |
| 19:19.51 | abrotman | ikks: i believe you need permission |
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| 19:20.08 | ikks | sorry, was just testing a logger for channels. |
| 19:20.22 | abrotman | ikks: make your own channel .. test that |
| 19:20.22 | Eulex | ikks, well, this channel doesn't want to be logged. |
| 19:20.51 | ikks | ok, I understand, thanks, sorry for the incovenient |
| 19:21.02 | ikks | Can I log other channels? |
| 19:21.11 | abrotman | log your own channel .. /j #ikks |
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| 19:21.14 | DevilChaos | none unless they are yours |
| 19:21.17 | Eulex | ikks, well, if they agree to be logged... |
| 19:21.24 | ikks | ok, I see. |
| 19:21.44 | ikks | won't happen again. |
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| 19:23.39 | nvz | as if this channel isnt being logged |
| 19:23.50 | nvz | by like 500 or more people |
| 19:24.07 | ikks | where can I find examples of the logs? |
| 19:24.10 | abrotman | nvz: only by you |
| 19:24.18 | abrotman | ikks: the logs aren't public .. or aren't supposed to be |
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| 19:24.37 | ikks | I saw channels with ubuntu that are logged |
| 19:24.37 | abrotman | nvz: i don't log it |
| 19:24.49 | abrotman | ikks: then go log that channel .. please don't log #debian |
| 19:24.58 | ikks | and maybe it's useful when people is googling for answers |
| 19:25.02 | abrotman | no |
| 19:25.16 | pzn | ikks, if you use xchat irc client, go to configuration menu and turn on logging. you'll see log examples... |
| 19:25.19 | abrotman | you'd get so much crap from the logs .. it would be 100% worthless |
| 19:25.25 | nvz | abrotman: me either but thats because |
| 19:25.29 | nvz | /dev/hda1 ext3 110G 87G 17G 84% / |
| 19:25.55 | nvz | gotta get my lvm back together and get stuff running right again |
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| 19:26.10 | ikks | I saw http://netz.smurf.noris.de/logs/ |
| 19:26.23 | ikks | and thought it was a good idea :) |
| 19:26.26 | nvz | got _everything_ off right now.. hostnames, and all services looking into what the problems are and whos molesting them |
| 19:26.42 | Eulex | I've got a little problem... a directory that I've run a few svn commands in has been set to PWD, so any terminal, file manager etc that I open gets that directory as current directory, and not ~ |
| 19:26.49 | abrotman | ikks: those are not #debian logs ... go log an ubuntu channel . |
| 19:26.58 | abrotman | ikks: DO NOT log this channel and provide public logs |
| 19:27.27 | ikks | Ok, it would be nice to notice that in the topic or somewhere else. |
| 19:27.29 | DevilChaos | ikks: take the suggestion before your banned |
| 19:27.40 | ikks | My bot is not here :) |
| 19:27.53 | abrotman | ikks: it's general ettiquette |
| 19:27.53 | Jasper | hej guys, do you know how I can test if xvmc is working? |
| 19:27.56 | nvz | ikks: how about we get it tattooed to your forehead and you can advertise it |
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| 19:28.18 | freeone3000 | Alrighty, thanks, works now and I have 3d accelerated hardware! (Finally, more than 300 fps in glxgears) |
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| 19:28.25 | nvz | thats the new thing this year advertising on your forehead |
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| 19:28.40 | ikks | I see abrotman, thanks. |
| 19:28.43 | nvz | pretty soon there will be forehead.ebay.com |
| 19:28.53 | DevilChaos | freeone3000:are you usine ati card? |
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| 19:29.05 | DevilChaos | nvz: lol |
| 19:29.12 | nvz | DevilChaos: I'm not kidding |
| 19:29.12 | hpprinter | let's see if someone can help me, I bought a HP PSC 1510 (should work with linux as I read in the boards) but it is not being detected when I plug the USB cable |
| 19:29.13 | DevilChaos | using damn typos |
| 19:29.14 | drac | Jasper: mplayer -vo xvmc <file> ? xvinfo ? |
| 19:29.37 | Eulex | how is that PWD environment variable set? and how could an app set it so that any program that you open get it set to something else than ~? |
| 19:29.59 | nvz | take a picture of your head, describe the places you go, make an advertisment profile on forehead.ebay.com and await the highest bid |
| 19:30.00 | abrotman | http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml |
| 19:30.13 | freeone3000 | DevilChaos: It works. But nvidia. |
| 19:30.31 | DevilChaos | freeone3000:ah |
| 19:30.32 | freeone3000 | Now getting somewhere around 2500. |
| 19:30.41 | kspath | nvz: the end of the world is nigh |
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| 19:31.21 | wireddd | well then I had better get high |
| 19:31.29 | abrotman | ikks: as that suggests .. #debian doesn't announce logging .. so we don't do it |
| 19:31.29 | hpprinter | let's see if someone can help me, I bought a HP PSC 1510 printer (should work with linux as I read in the boards) but it is not being detected when I plug the USB cable, and I can't find /dev/usb in my system |
| 19:31.44 | abrotman | load some usb modules! |
| 19:31.45 | kspath | ikks: In Soviet Russia the channel_guidelines read you and you are happy about it or else. |
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| 19:32.09 | hpprinter | I am using hotplug and my usb works fine always |
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| 19:32.20 | abrotman | did you load the usb printer driver? |
| 19:32.24 | hpprinter | if I load usblp, it is the same |
| 19:32.30 | abrotman | lsusb ? |
| 19:32.43 | hpprinter | with lsusb I obtain this: |
| 19:32.52 | nvz | no flood |
| 19:32.54 | hpprinter | Unknown line at line 5924 |
| 19:32.54 | hpprinter | Unknown line at line 5925 |
| 19:32.54 | hpprinter | Unknown line at line 5926 |
| 19:32.54 | hpprinter | Unknown line at line 5927 |
| 19:32.54 | hpprinter | Unknown line at line 5928 |
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| 19:32.59 | abrotman | stupid people |
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| 19:33.01 | nvz | heh |
| 19:33.08 | abrotman | update-usbids |
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| 19:33.12 | abrotman | update-usbids |
| 19:33.16 | hpprinter | Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 19:33.17 | kspath | pidstu purple |
| 19:33.18 | hpprinter | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 19:33.20 | hpprinter | sorry for the flood! |
| 19:33.22 | abrotman | hpprinter: STOP FUCKING PASTING |
| 19:33.23 | blondie | pebkac |
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| 19:33.28 | nvz | heh |
| 19:33.32 | abrotman | !paste |
| 19:33.32 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 19:33.39 | blondie | hpprinter: shouldn't you be outputting to paper instead of irc? |
| 19:33.51 | p8m | haha |
| 19:33.51 | Neverth | someone know a linux virus, where your kb and mouse stop working and when shutting via ssh the framebuffer scrolls text "null" on it? :p |
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| 19:33.53 | abrotman | lp0 on fire? |
| 19:33.57 | hpprinter | ok, what did you tell me when I was kidked? |
| 19:34.02 | resiak | abrotman: :-) |
| 19:34.23 | Eulex | ah, PWD=/home/alex in .bashrc and .bash_profile. but still not explains how the current directory could be set to something else than ~ when a program starts |
| 19:34.23 | abrotman | probably called you stupid and told you to stop pasting |
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| 19:35.10 | Silent_al | hello guys :) can u recoomed a good tv program to use with my bt878 tuner? |
| 19:35.11 | Eulex | Silent_al, mythtv? |
| 19:35.11 | Daedalus_ | Silent_al, mythtv |
| 19:35.11 | p8m | Silent_al: xawtv? |
| 19:35.11 | Silent_al | umm , its ant old pc 200MHz |
| 19:35.11 | Eulex | Neverth, sounds like something failed, not a virus. |
| 19:35.11 | Silent_al | an* |
| 19:35.12 | m1ke_l | if my debian install gets "stuck" at ide-generic is it stuck on this one or the next module? |
| 19:35.13 | cockroach | does anyone else have trouble getting the latest vlc's wx interface to work? I only get the crappy mac-style guid and would like to know if that's just a local issue or whether I should submit a bug report... |
| 19:35.20 | hpprinter | I did the update-usbids already but didn't correct it |
| 19:35.24 | cockroach | s/guid/gui/ |
| 19:35.42 | Silent_al | but thanx anywayguys :) |
| 19:35.44 | Daedalus_ | Silent_al, your card should be doing most of the grunt work. |
| 19:35.47 | Eulex | Silent_al, hmm, I've got one of those as server. is it seriously enough for a desktop? how much ram? |
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| 19:36.25 | jetscreamer | which file is it that you add commands/options to the modules. /etc/mod?? |
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| 19:36.58 | Neverth | Eulex, but the null text was scrolling so smoothly, it was beautiful, /meh wanz it back (goes shame on the corner) |
| 19:37.07 | hpprinter | all tutorials I read about setting up my new printer require some /dev/usb directory, but I have none, any help? |
| 19:37.13 | Daedalus_ | jetscreamer, modules.conf? |
| 19:37.19 | Eulex | Neverth, haha :D |
| 19:37.22 | m1ke_l | why would debian choke on ide-generic during install? |
| 19:38.01 | jetscreamer | that one sayd Please do not edit this file directly. |
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| 19:38.13 | jetscreamer | m1ke_l: cuz it's an intel chipset |
| 19:38.27 | m1ke_l | jetscreamer: ok....work around? |
| 19:38.41 | m1ke_l | its a thinkpad and debian just wont install |
| 19:38.46 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 19:38.46 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 19:38.53 | zorton | what options are recommended for cloning a installed and running debian system? tar/gz comes to mind but I would love something that would let me burn some CD's and auto install |
| 19:38.54 | jetscreamer | m1ke_l: i'm not that good |
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| 19:39.08 | Eulex | zorton, fai? |
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| 19:39.12 | m1ke_l | all those linux-on-laptops site say installing on this just works fine....they LIE! |
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| 19:39.13 | markybob | zorton, google mondo rescue |
| 19:39.15 | p8m | m1ke_l: Check out thinkwiki.org, it has lots of information about thinkpads |
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| 19:39.24 | jetscreamer | m1ke_l: you might try shelling out and modprobing it |
| 19:39.26 | m1ke_l | zorton: partimage...ghost |
| 19:39.26 | Eulex | !fai |
| 19:39.26 | dpkg | [fai] Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or at #fai |
| 19:39.28 | zorton | Eulex: i've acualy used fai but it's a bit complex |
| 19:39.33 | abrotman | m1ke_l: worked just fine on my thinkpad |
| 19:39.35 | Eulex | zorton, hmm, ok |
| 19:39.38 | jetscreamer | not sure |
| 19:39.39 | s1lent_al | pc crashed :| |
| 19:39.44 | setuid_w00t | what would be the sources.list line for this URL: http://www.prato.linux.it/~mnencia/debian/skype-sid/ |
| 19:40.03 | abrotman | !sources |
| 19:40.03 | dpkg | If you have problems adding unofficial sites to /etc/apt/sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list, |
| 19:40.09 | zorton | thanks all |
| 19:40.10 | s1lent_al | Eulex, 64mb of ram, running xfce . |
| 19:40.19 | Eulex | s1lent_al, ok. |
| 19:40.19 | jetscreamer | setuid_w00t: deb in front, man in rear... maybe... |
| 19:40.26 | jetscreamer | err main in rear... |
| 19:40.33 | RootHack | ping me |
| 19:40.36 | m1ke_l | weird...soon as i shelled out it continued |
| 19:40.37 | Eulex | s1lent_al, did that once too, on a p2 300 w/ 64mb ram. |
| 19:40.42 | RootHack | !usb |
| 19:40.43 | dpkg | methinks usb is (Universal Serial Bus) A technology that has replaced the way that some peripheral devices connect to a computer. It is much faster than serial and parallel communications. It is also much more flexible: it will be able to connect to many devices simultaneously. http://www.linux-usb.org, or http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html |
| 19:40.45 | jetscreamer | there ya go |
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| 19:41.08 | MushroomPrince | I need a bigge harddrive |
| 19:41.11 | MushroomPrince | *r |
| 19:41.13 | Eulex | man in rear :) |
| 19:41.18 | freeone3000 | wget rules... |
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| 19:41.21 | jetscreamer | 60 bucks after rebate at fry's |
| 19:41.26 | foo | Hmm, what's the best way to upgrade from stable to testing? |
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| 19:41.34 | abrotman | !tell foo about sarge->etch |
| 19:41.34 | foo | dist-upgrade or change my sources? |
| 19:41.39 | jetscreamer | both |
| 19:41.51 | foo | oh |
| 19:41.51 | freeone3000 | Change your sources, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade works nice. |
| 19:41.52 | jetscreamer | both are required for that method |
| 19:41.53 | justice | hello everyone |
| 19:41.55 | justice | damn it, this # just rocks... |
| 19:41.59 | abrotman | freeone3000: WRONG |
| 19:42.02 | abrotman | stupid people |
| 19:42.22 | jetscreamer | i heard tell it might not work so good atm, not sure |
| 19:42.23 | markybob | it is sunday, afterall. |
| 19:42.53 | jetscreamer | ok i give up what's wrong with the freeone3000 method |
| 19:43.02 | jetscreamer | cept add dist- |
| 19:43.03 | abrotman | jetscreamer: what do you think is wrong with it? |
| 19:43.09 | jetscreamer | ^ |
| 19:43.14 | MushroomPrince | i love joo #debian |
| 19:43.14 | hpprinter | how comes that I use usb memories without problem and they autoinstall with hotplug, but my new printer is not even detected when I check dmesg? |
| 19:43.16 | abrotman | jetscreamer: there's a BIG difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade |
| 19:43.29 | jetscreamer | but other than that it's ok eh |
| 19:43.37 | abrotman | jetscreamer: and doesn't really do anything |
| 19:43.51 | jetscreamer | no borkage tht i don't know about... ok. |
| 19:44.04 | markybob | that's like saying that having a leg for an is odd but "other than that it's ok" |
| 19:44.11 | markybob | for an arm, i meant. blah. |
| 19:44.14 | abrotman | heh |
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| 19:44.31 | jetscreamer | well more like you're missing a hand or something |
| 19:44.40 | foo | Bah, I jst installed debian.. and I tried to apt-get something, and I get a E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs. man, I geot this error last time. |
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| 19:44.49 | sylvisj | How would I go about blanking a RW? |
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| 19:44.56 | geeKISSexy | Has anyone setup gallery2 ? I get a 403 Forbidden Error. |
| 19:45.09 | cockroach | sylvisj: cdrecord blank=fast |
| 19:45.17 | sylvisj | Thanks. |
| 19:45.19 | jetscreamer | foo try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade first maybe |
| 19:45.20 | abrotman | geeKISSexy: do your logs give more info ? |
| 19:45.24 | cockroach | np |
| 19:45.29 | jetscreamer | see also apt-get -f install |
| 19:45.30 | abrotman | !e2fsprogs loop |
| 19:45.31 | dpkg | well, e2fsprogs loop is you are running packages which are older than the current debian stable and are trying to upgrade to debian testing which isn't supported, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "testing" or "etch" or "unstable" with "stable" then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; then if you still want testing, edit sources.list again, and change stable to testing and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:45.40 | Daedalus_ | geeKISSexy, You may have to set permissions on the gallery directory |
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| 19:45.42 | geeKISSexy | abrotman: Yes, they say it's denied because of config in /usr/share/gallery2 |
| 19:45.45 | jetscreamer | ahhh |
| 19:45.50 | ciler | hi |
| 19:45.51 | abrotman | geeKISSexy: so .. change the config ? |
| 19:45.54 | markybob | did we NOT just cover the differences between upgrade and dist-upgrade? and you tell him to upgrade? |
| 19:45.57 | geeKISSexy | And the config file is empty. |
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| 19:46.12 | geeKISSexy | abrotman: It isn't allowing me to change the "gallery way". |
| 19:46.23 | blondie | ;o |
| 19:46.26 | abrotman | markybob: some people used to have contests where they'd see who could hold thier breath the longest .. guess who won .. |
| 19:46.26 | Eulex | foo, with what are you installing? |
| 19:46.31 | geeKISSexy | i.e. http://domain.com/gallery2/ doesn't work. It gives 403 Forbidden. |
| 19:46.35 | jetscreamer | markybob: he didn't say he changed the sources, he said he just installed debian |
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| 19:46.41 | foo | Eulex: debian 3.1 |
| 19:46.50 | bighorn | is there a package for libgtkmm for sarge? |
| 19:46.55 | jetscreamer | and note the 'first' |
| 19:46.56 | geeKISSexy | The installation is from Debian Testing gallery2 package. |
| 19:47.04 | abrotman | bighorn: didn't we go over this .. hours ago ? |
| 19:47.10 | markybob | abrotman, sorry, man, but you're on your own :) i'm off to work. good luck |
| 19:47.13 | jetscreamer | !find libgtkmm sarge |
| 19:47.14 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'libgtkmm' (11): libgtkmm-2.4-1 ;; libgtkmm-2.4-dev ;; libgtkmm-2.4-doc ;; libgtkmm-dev ;; libgtkmm-doc ;; libgtkmm1.2-0 ;; libgtkmm2.0-1c102 ;; libgtkmm2.0-dev ;; libgtkmm2.0-doc ;; libgtkmmext0 ;; libgtkmmext0-dev. |
| 19:47.17 | bighorn | then i have been hours trying to do it |
| 19:47.18 | jetscreamer | no |
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| 19:47.30 | Eulex | foo, 3.1-r1a sarge official cd(s)? |
| 19:47.30 | abrotman | bighorn: gtkmm.pc ? |
| 19:47.42 | foo | Eulex: Net install CD. Hmm, I got the same error jetscreamer. |
| 19:47.46 | jetscreamer | i told you apt-cache search gtkmm |
| 19:47.48 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 19:48.08 | Eulex | foo, exact version? |
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| 19:48.22 | abrotman | !find gtkmm-2.0.pc sarge |
| 19:48.28 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gtkmm-2.0.pc' (1): (/usr/lib/pkgconfig/gtkmm-2.0.pc) in libdevel/libgtkmm2.0-dev. |
| 19:48.34 | grandma | sometime back i did an upgrade and nvidia-glx was removed. now every time i choose to install nvidia-glx it wants to remove x-window-system-core and xserver-xorg... |
| 19:48.34 | asrail | The openoffice-gnome integration exists in sarge? |
| 19:48.41 | abrotman | bighorn: did you install that package ? libgtkmm2.0-dev ? |
| 19:48.48 | asrail | I've found openoffice.org-gnome just for 2.0 |
| 19:48.56 | geeKISSexy | Given the details, debconf should create the config.php file, but it isn't. Maybe I should file a bug report. |
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| 19:49.53 | adub | URGENT: please someone help me my laptops keyboard is slllllllllllllllow <------------- it took 5 minutes to type that |
| 19:49.58 | foo | Eulex: ah, my bad, cat /etc/debian_version says testing/unstable. Hmm, weird. /me wonders if he should download the newest net install cd |
| 19:50.05 | foo | adub: HAHA |
| 19:50.05 | Eulex | foo, if you've got 3.0r0, that one's broken. get r1 or at least r0a. |
| 19:50.14 | foo | Eulex: Hmm, gocha. Thanks |
| 19:50.25 | abrotman | get r1 |
| 19:50.27 | Eulex | foo, hmm, you seem to have a netinstall from when sarge was testing. |
| 19:50.30 | asrail | adub: Just under X or also in the virtual console? |
| 19:50.34 | foo | Eulex: ahh, ok. |
| 19:50.36 | Eulex | foo, get the r1. |
| 19:50.38 | foo | Eulex: k |
| 19:50.42 | jetscreamer | grandma Conflicts: xlibs (<< 6.8.2.dfsg.1-5), xserver-xfree86 (<< 6.8.2.dfsg.1-1), nvidi |
| 19:50.42 | jetscreamer | a-glx (<= 1.0.7174-4 |
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| 19:50.58 | grandma | jetscreamer: ? |
| 19:51.02 | jetscreamer | try the 8 series i guess? |
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| 19:51.10 | grandma | oh, uhh debian testing |
| 19:51.13 | grandma | if it matters |
| 19:51.19 | adub | X juss started too everything has been fine for a month |
| 19:51.55 | grandma | jetscreamer: what do you mean try the 8 series? |
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| 19:52.02 | jetscreamer | grandma yeah that's the testing version... you're far.....uh out of luck... |
| 19:52.15 | jetscreamer | i mean nvidia-glx-8xxx |
| 19:52.20 | jetscreamer | instead of 7xxx |
| 19:52.27 | hpprinter | ok, I plug my usb HP PSC 1510 printer/scanner/fax and linux doesn't even detect a new driver was plugged, what should I do? any help? |
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| 19:52.48 | jetscreamer | hpprinter: linux.hp.com, see also hplip package maybe |
| 19:52.49 | abrotman | load the correct modules |
| 19:52.50 | adub | asrail u there? |
| 19:52.57 | asrail | yeah |
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| 19:53.07 | bighorn | success. thanks for the help.:) |
| 19:53.16 | jetscreamer | yay |
| 19:53.25 | hpprinter | jetscreamer: I already installed hplip |
| 19:53.28 | grandma | jetscreamer: well i'm not really playing any games on this thing yet...so if it rolls into testing within a month or so i wouldn't mind. i'd rather wait than break out of testing or use nvidia binary |
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| 19:53.49 | asrail | I asked if you can type properly in a virtual console, |
| 19:53.51 | jetscreamer | k well those seem to be the options grandma |
| 19:53.56 | hpprinter | and hplips-ppds also |
| 19:54.01 | diogenes | i just did apt-get dist-upgrade on my sid, and now it says on boot, that /dev/hda1 is not found oslt and throws me to some shell. |
| 19:54.06 | grandma | jetscreamer: ok...just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me |
| 19:54.10 | jetscreamer | hpprinter: linux.hp.com then... and load the modules like abrotman said |
| 19:54.15 | asrail | i.e., Control+alt+F1 and type something. |
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| 19:54.19 | grandma | i have a bad habit of not reading what will be removed when i do an upgrade :0) |
| 19:54.22 | jetscreamer | diogenes: welcome to 2.6+udev |
| 19:54.28 | diogenes | how do i fix that? |
| 19:54.30 | asrail | To try to discover if the error is from Xorg or anything else |
| 19:54.31 | mfrisch | grandma use module-assistant to make the nvidia mod. It makes a nice deb |
| 19:54.33 | adub | asrail any recommendations |
| 19:54.35 | jetscreamer | diogenes: it magically became hde probably |
| 19:54.46 | adub | ok i will see |
| 19:54.55 | grandma | mfrisch: i already used the module-assistant 'nvidia one-liner' |
| 19:55.27 | mfrisch | grandma sorry just coming in. Is it not working |
| 19:55.30 | hpprinter | jetscreamer: what modules do you mean? I use hotplug, it should be automatic |
| 19:55.30 | jetscreamer | grandma apt-cache show xserver-xorg |
| 19:55.33 | diogenes | i can get the machine to boot with older kernel, but then xorg wont start and my keyboard dies at the unable to start x -prompt |
| 19:55.35 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 19:55.47 | adub | i type my password fine at X login screen asrail |
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| 19:55.55 | mfrisch | hpprinter are you using cups |
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| 19:56.04 | jetscreamer | hpprinter: usblp or something.... got that one up? |
| 19:56.06 | rublind | Is it safe to update from Sarge to etch just by changing sources and doing apt-get update-dist ? |
| 19:56.18 | rigor | is there a netinstall image for Etch? |
| 19:56.21 | grandma | jetscreamer: what am i looking for in that output? |
| 19:56.32 | jetscreamer | i find with cups my hp works using the mc:par designation, but it's lp not usb. |
| 19:56.33 | mfrisch | jetscreamer hotplug "should" load that |
| 19:56.41 | grandma | oh i see it |
| 19:56.41 | jetscreamer | grandma: the conflicts |
| 19:56.43 | jetscreamer | ya |
| 19:56.44 | asrail | adub: I got it, but you still being able to go to a console and back to X. |
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| 19:56.56 | Coweater | rublind: yes, "dist-upgrade" |
| 19:56.56 | cheal | rigor: yes |
| 19:57.01 | adub | asrail everything has been ok for a month and this just started today |
| 19:57.04 | rublind | coweater: thanks. |
| 19:57.05 | rigor | cheal where? |
| 19:57.14 | rigor | cheal: not on debian.org. |
| 19:57.17 | jetscreamer | yeah well lsmod to see if the module is loaded hpprinter |
| 19:57.18 | grandma | i just need to punch myself in the face every time i do an upgrade as a reminder to check what will be installed/removed :0P |
| 19:57.21 | cheal | !tell rublind about sarge->etch |
| 19:57.27 | hpprinter | mfrisch: I am using cups, yes, but before the printer must be detected |
| 19:57.29 | cheal | !tell rigor about d-i |
| 19:57.39 | jetscreamer | hpprinter: linux.hp.org |
| 19:57.55 | adub | asrail i can type fine out of X |
| 19:57.58 | diogenes | any suggestions how i can get my machine to boot properly? |
| 19:57.59 | hpprinter | jetscreamer: I have no hpprinter module in my system |
| 19:58.02 | rigor | cheal: tnx |
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| 19:58.29 | jetscreamer | not hpprinter module, the module for usb printers in general |
| 19:58.31 | mfrisch | hpprinter are you using hplip? You need the usblp and the usb host controller before it will be seen. Hotplug should take care of that though. |
| 19:58.33 | asrail | adub: Thanks ;). Haven't you installed anything neither changed Xorg or gnome keyboard configuration? |
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| 19:58.42 | jetscreamer | what mfrisch said |
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| 19:58.56 | adub | nothing changed |
| 19:59.14 | mfrisch | jetscreamer that's the first time anyone has said that! |
| 19:59.16 | l3thal | hey can someone help me figure out if this was a cron job? |
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| 19:59.44 | blondie | l3thal: if what was a cron job? |
| 19:59.44 | hpprinter | mfrisch: I have hplip installed and usblp loaded, and usb is working properly up to what I know |
| 19:59.48 | asrail | adub: Have you tried restarting X? |
| 19:59.49 | l3thal | auth.log and sulog says somone su root from nobody |
| 19:59.55 | adub | yes |
| 19:59.55 | l3thal | at 6:25 this am |
| 19:59.58 | jetscreamer | diogenes: when yo boot grub (assuming grub) hit e, add/change root=/dev/hde? ro (maybe) ... or hit c, and find the correct hd/partition |
| 20:00.00 | blondie | probably a cron job yes |
| 20:00.03 | ringo999 | xfce rocks! |
| 20:00.05 | l3thal | ok |
| 20:00.08 | hpprinter | mfrisch: but when I plug the cable the system doesn't notice I connected something, it is very strange, no entry in dmesg |
| 20:00.08 | jetscreamer | root (hd <tab> |
| 20:00.09 | asrail | adub: See in "top" if there is some program eating cpu. |
| 20:00.11 | mfrisch | hpprinter goto localhost:631 and see if it comes up |
| 20:00.16 | jetscreamer | kernel /boot/<tab> |
| 20:00.20 | Kovecses | ringo999, sarge? |
| 20:00.23 | blondie | l3thal: cron.daily is run at 6:25am by default on debian |
| 20:00.24 | jetscreamer | initrd /boot/<tab> |
| 20:00.33 | hpprinter | mfrisch: it doesn't come up, but I will try now perhaps it does |
| 20:00.46 | l3thal | ok |
| 20:00.48 | grandma | xfce is great, i use it on my laptop |
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| 20:00.49 | l3thal | whew |
| 20:00.53 | l3thal | ty ;) |
| 20:00.54 | grandma | kde on desktop |
| 20:00.58 | jetscreamer | diogenes: info grub first if you can |
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| 20:01.05 | mfrisch | hpprinter maybe restart hotplug then cups first. |
| 20:01.15 | rublind | What's the vi command to replace all instantces of something? |
| 20:01.16 | Kovecses | anyone try the kde 3.5 packages from backports.org? |
| 20:01.18 | ringo999 | Kovecses: yeah |
| 20:01.34 | Kovecses | ringo999, did you grab xfce4 from backports.org |
| 20:01.37 | jetscreamer | might be mc:usb designator instead of mc:par or so |
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| 20:01.41 | adub | i have rebooted and shutdown too |
| 20:01.49 | hpprinter | mfrisch: ok wait, but shouldn't dmesg tell me something when i connect the printer? |
| 20:02.06 | abrotman | lsusb should at least tell you something is there |
| 20:02.54 | diogenes | jetscreamer: i'll try that |
| 20:02.57 | jetscreamer | diogenes: info grub doesn't work unless you've installed grub-doc btw |
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| 20:03.05 | signius | Hi guys |
| 20:03.07 | diogenes | k |
| 20:03.09 | Kovecses | hello |
| 20:03.29 | mfrisch | hpprinter I would have to login again to my server to check. It may show up in /var/log/* maybe messages or kernel log. I use metalog and forget. |
| 20:03.34 | signius | I installed debian on with the testing gui installer today and am very pleased so far |
| 20:03.38 | jetscreamer | and try a -386 kernel if you have one on your box. they seem to work.. |
| 20:03.53 | Kovecses | signius, where do you get the gui installer? |
| 20:03.59 | mfrisch | signius they finally released a gui? |
| 20:04.07 | Eulex | mfrisch, no |
| 20:04.12 | Eulex | mfrisch, it's alpha |
| 20:04.16 | signius | i was wondering if there is more sources available for etch tho as there seem to be some quite significant programs missing |
| 20:04.22 | signius | such as gpsd |
| 20:04.26 | signius | i will get the link |
| 20:04.50 | mfrisch | Eulex thats what I meant. I use sarge and upgrade myself. Unless hardware doesn't work |
| 20:04.52 | asrail | adub: See "top" and look if there is any program eating cpu (you may want doing it in a virtual console) |
| 20:04.54 | ringo999 | Kovecses: naw just the regualar apt-get package |
| 20:04.54 | Eulex | signius, some things are temporarily missing due to transitions. |
| 20:05.16 | deadcat | do you guys have problem with firefox using up loads of cpu when opening multiple tabs? |
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| 20:05.20 | Kovecses | ringo999, becuse you can get the latest version of xfce from backports.org or debian-desktop.org |
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| 20:05.35 | Kovecses | deadcat, what version of firefox? |
| 20:05.41 | ringo999 | Kovecses: ok ill check it out |
| 20:05.53 | deadcat | 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0 |
| 20:06.00 | abrotman | check the bts |
| 20:06.03 | Eulex | ringo999, 4.2.3.2 is infinitely better than 4.0.6. |
| 20:06.13 | Kovecses | yup |
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| 20:06.26 | ringo999 | how can i see what version i have? |
| 20:06.39 | Eulex | ringo999, apt-cache policy xfce4 |
| 20:07.08 | RootHack | ringo999: uname -a |
| 20:07.14 | Eulex | ringo999, no |
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| 20:07.16 | Eulex | umh |
| 20:07.18 | Eulex | RootHack, no |
| 20:07.27 | signius | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 20:07.28 | Eulex | RootHack, xfce version, not kernel version. |
| 20:07.52 | signius | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/GUI |
| 20:08.00 | abrotman | signius: what ? |
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| 20:08.09 | mfrisch | is he fishing |
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| 20:08.18 | signius | the second link is to the gui installer |
| 20:08.21 | abrotman | and? |
| 20:08.38 | signius | the first link has all the links for the installers and also links to the gui installer |
| 20:08.39 | mfrisch | We are so very impressed. |
| 20:08.57 | abrotman | and? |
| 20:09.05 | mfrisch | abrotman give up |
| 20:09.09 | dureyes | is there newsreader out there that can Download up to eight articles at the same time? |
| 20:09.17 | abrotman | pan? |
| 20:09.25 | Kovecses | is the best wat to get openoffice 2.0.1 on sarge to download the rpms and alien them? |
| 20:09.30 | abrotman | no |
| 20:09.34 | abrotman | !tell Kovecses about backports |
| 20:09.38 | adub | asrail no process eating up cpu |
| 20:09.39 | dureyes | don't remember doing it with Pan.. |
| 20:09.44 | Kovecses | abrotman, oh its in backports |
| 20:09.50 | rublind | after upgrading to etch, can I run apt-setup to get a good sources.list ? |
| 20:09.53 | abrotman | dureyes: i'm not sure certain .. but try it |
| 20:09.57 | Kovecses | abrotman, last i checked it wasnt the current version |
| 20:09.58 | nvz | Pan, Peter Pan. |
| 20:10.06 | Eulex | rublind, you should already have one. |
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| 20:10.09 | abrotman | Kovecses: go look |
| 20:10.11 | mfrisch | dureyes firefox has rss support? |
| 20:10.13 | Naz_ | hey |
| 20:10.16 | Kovecses | abrotman, i am |
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| 20:10.21 | Naz_ | Once again help :P |
| 20:10.27 | centrx | rublind, if you upgraded to etch wouldn't you already have a good sources.list? |
| 20:10.30 | rublind | Evlex: I was using sarge, so, I'm upgrading, and forgot to run it, will it still be available once the upgrade to etch is complete? |
| 20:10.31 | RootHack | sory |
| 20:10.38 | abrotman | etch currently has no apt-setup .. yay |
| 20:10.41 | nvz | mfrisch: firefox has extensions you know |
| 20:10.41 | Eulex | rublind, yes. |
| 20:10.46 | rublind | Okay, thank you all. |
| 20:10.49 | Eulex | abrotman, umh, it doesn't |
| 20:10.51 | abrotman | thunderbird can do rss .. |
| 20:10.51 | Eulex | ? |
| 20:10.52 | Naz_ | I'm using Sarge and I have apt'd the postfix package and the sasl package |
| 20:10.56 | asrail | adub: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg |
| 20:10.58 | Kovecses | abrotman, not the newest version |
| 20:11.02 | abrotman | Eulex: no |
| 20:11.02 | Naz_ | my isp blocks port 25 tho |
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| 20:11.13 | Eulex | abrotman, hrmm |
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| 20:11.18 | Naz_ | how do I get sasl authentication working? |
| 20:11.23 | adub | did that many times |
| 20:11.24 | abrotman | Kovecses: it has 2.0.0 |
| 20:11.30 | Eulex | abrotman, bug or intended? |
| 20:11.33 | mfrisch | nvz I know I was telling dureyes...I just donot know if thats what he wants |
| 20:11.34 | Naz_ | cuz everytime I connect to my isp's smtp servers, |
| 20:11.40 | abrotman | Eulex: side effect iirc |
| 20:11.41 | Kovecses | abrotman, the newest version is 2.0.2 |
| 20:11.43 | Naz_ | it says I need authentication |
| 20:11.54 | adub | and saved settings |
| 20:11.57 | abrotman | Kovecses: and what does 2.0.2 have that menas you can't use 2.0.0 ? |
| 20:12.07 | Kovecses | abrotman, i mean 2.0.1 |
| 20:12.18 | abrotman | fine .. whatever . it's one minor revision |
| 20:12.25 | rublind | Is it bad to run apt-setup while apt-get is running? |
| 20:12.46 | Naz_ | so? |
| 20:12.57 | abrotman | postfix-tls ? |
| 20:13.05 | adub | what if my processor could be runnnning a hair fast |
| 20:13.06 | dureyes | Pan does not mention anything about multiple downloads... |
| 20:13.11 | nvz | rublind: wont work the lockfile is in place you cannot update the cache |
| 20:13.12 | asrail | adub: gnome or kde? stable, unstable, testing or experimental? |
| 20:13.18 | rublind | Ah, okay. |
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| 20:13.31 | signius | how can disable the f10 key in the default terminal |
| 20:13.32 | adub | kde stable |
| 20:13.35 | Naz_ | so can anyone help? |
| 20:13.53 | signius | it interferes with nearly every program that runs in a terminal window |
| 20:14.16 | Kovecses | Naz_, whats the problem |
| 20:14.22 | Eulex | signius, depends on de/wm |
| 20:14.35 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 20:14.35 | dpkg | well, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 20:14.41 | abrotman | !moo |
| 20:14.41 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 20:15.10 | signius | well what is the default used by debian on a standard install ? |
| 20:15.27 | raf256[laptop] | "I weight twice as much as you." - bot detect when talking to Americans? |
| 20:15.30 | signius | ok its the GNOME terminal |
| 20:15.31 | raf256[laptop] | (only twice?) |
| 20:15.53 | abrotman | polish humor must have difficulty in translation |
| 20:16.10 | raf256[laptop] | Americans are the fattest nation, in any language |
| 20:16.17 | Naz_ | the problem is this: |
| 20:16.18 | raf256[laptop] | </ side note> |
| 20:16.23 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: wow .. aren't you a generalizing fucktard |
| 20:16.28 | Naz_ | i've apt-getted postfix and sasl |
| 20:16.39 | Naz_ | and my isp blocks port 25 |
| 20:16.42 | tarzeau | Naz_: gotten, not getted |
| 20:16.48 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: I dont say each American is fattest, I say the avaraged weight is. |
| 20:16.50 | tarzeau | Naz_: that's not a debian problem |
| 20:17.06 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: i say the average IQ in poland is the lowest |
| 20:17.08 | adub | asrail any recommendations |
| 20:17.09 | Naz_ | so I have to redirect the mail to my isp's mail servers |
| 20:17.18 | abrotman | Naz_: read the postfix docs |
| 20:17.18 | Naz_ | I know its a postfix/sasl problem |
| 20:17.24 | Naz_ | I HAVE! |
| 20:17.25 | Naz_ | XD |
| 20:17.26 | Kovecses | tarzeau, why wouldnt it be apt-getted |
| 20:17.34 | jetscreamer | what if there are polish aggies, abrotman ? |
| 20:17.35 | tarzeau | !getted |
| 20:17.39 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: avaraged IQ of any coutry is exacly 100, meathead, that is how it is calculated heh |
| 20:17.41 | tarzeau | Kovecses: because it's apt-gotten |
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| 20:17.48 | jetscreamer | apt-got gdmit! |
| 20:17.53 | foo | Anyway to have a bash script run after my computer sits idle for a few minutes (not moving mouse in X or typing), and then have a bash script run when the system comes out of idle (as decribed previously) ? |
| 20:18.01 | Kovecses | tarzeau, yeah it would be apt-got |
| 20:18.01 | Naz_ | who freaking cares :P |
| 20:18.09 | jetscreamer | !anal |
| 20:18.09 | dpkg | anal is probably a kind of sex, which is very nice for men who love other men.!, or another way to say anal retentive |
| 20:18.14 | asrail | I haven't seen a reply to my last message. It may be an error in kde or gnome. You may try seeing if the error persists in the another environment. |
| 20:18.14 | jetscreamer | boo |
| 20:18.24 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: you meathead .. you didn't understand what i said .. hence .. my theory may be correct |
| 20:18.24 | Naz_ | everytime i try to send mail to the servers to elay it |
| 20:18.32 | Naz_ | It says I need authentication |
| 20:18.48 | adub | asrail brb |
| 20:18.49 | Naz_ | ive rtfm and looked at a ton of utorials but none seem to help |
| 20:18.53 | Naz_ | what should I do? |
| 20:18.57 | abrotman | Naz_: did you try asking #postfix ? |
| 20:19.03 | signius | ok found it :-) |
| 20:19.04 | Naz_ | should I compile sasl? |
| 20:19.08 | Naz_ | no |
| 20:19.18 | Naz_ | I didn't know that channel existed |
| 20:19.21 | Naz_ | I'll try |
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| 20:19.31 | setuid_w00t | Are there any skype users here? I just installed it and I want to see if it works. |
| 20:19.44 | mortal | it's not free |
| 20:19.53 | abrotman | setuid_w00t: it's not in debian |
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| 20:19.59 | signius | ok no sound |
| 20:20.03 | signius | that not a winner |
| 20:20.09 | rublind | Uh, I'm relatively new to debian. When upgrading: "What interface should be used for configure packages?" If I want to use KDE later on, should I select that now? Or select readline and change it later? |
| 20:20.18 | rublind | Not readline, dialog |
| 20:20.20 | drac | rublind: Select "Dialog" |
| 20:20.23 | abrotman | rublind: the easiest is dialog |
| 20:20.33 | Kovecses | abrotman, and it being not in debian is relavent to his question how? |
| 20:20.38 | rublind | "Ignore questions with a priority less than..." Does it matter? |
| 20:20.42 | setuid_w00t | abrotman: there are debs available |
| 20:20.48 | abrotman | Kovecses: would you like to support every package not in debian ? |
| 20:20.54 | abrotman | setuid_w00t: it's NOT IN debian |
| 20:20.55 | drac | rublind: Depends on how hard question you want to see.. |
| 20:21.07 | drac | rublind: more you see, more you can configure ;) |
| 20:21.07 | magnusth | anyone around who knows if GNOME 2.14 betas are built and available somewhere? |
| 20:21.13 | tarzeau | magnusth: no |
| 20:21.29 | Kovecses | magnus, i know there are 2.12 |
| 20:21.37 | setuid_w00t | abrotman: Ok, fine it's not in debian... I don't care. I'm running it under Debian. |
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| 20:21.39 | abrotman | magnusth: not in sid .. maybe unofficially somewhere .. ask on irc.gnome.org |
| 20:21.49 | abrotman | setuid_w00t: great .. so call your mother |
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| 20:21.52 | magnusth | Kovecses, 2.12 is what's in Etch at the moment |
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| 20:22.06 | magnusth | abrotman, I was hoping the Debian GNOME team would have some packages |
| 20:22.08 | setuid_w00t | abrotman: what the fuck? Piss off. |
| 20:22.15 | Kovecses | setuid_w00t, #debian is the rudest most anal asshole channel on freenode |
| 20:22.25 | Kovecses | even freenode admits it |
| 20:22.36 | abrotman | setuid_w00t: go away? .. or get a friend to do it . i don't see why you have to come here to find a friend |
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| 20:22.46 | setuid_w00t | Kovecses: yeah, I have noticed that. |
| 20:22.50 | abrotman | Kovecses: but you keep coming back :) |
| 20:22.52 | tarzeau | Kovecses: i disagree |
| 20:22.53 | Kovecses | abrotman, all he did was ask |
| 20:23.02 | setuid_w00t | tarzeau: what channel is worse? |
| 20:23.05 | Kovecses | abrotman, yes to help when i can |
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| 20:23.23 | Kovecses | abrotman, something you dont do all you do is whine like a girl |
| 20:23.33 | foo | Er, I got the newest debian net install cd and when I select ftp.debian.org it *always* times out. Is this a bad mirror or something? |
| 20:23.34 | bird | Hey what is a good free game I can get now that I have linux :) |
| 20:23.37 | abrotman | you could go to #samba .. where every question for days gets ignored |
| 20:23.40 | tarzeau | setuid_w00t: where ams is, ##hurd or #gnu |
| 20:23.44 | setuid_w00t | Kovecses: That's a pretty mean thing to say about women |
| 20:23.46 | abrotman | Kovecses: i've helped you far more than once .. so shut the fuck up |
| 20:23.57 | Kovecses | bird, Enemy-territory ... supertux .... frozen bubble.... |
| 20:24.05 | signius | foo sounds more like you didnt configure your network correctly during the install |
| 20:24.05 | bird | kk |
| 20:24.09 | abrotman | happypenguin.org has many games |
| 20:24.10 | LP_WiZaRd | hay guyz |
| 20:24.21 | Kovecses | setuid_w00t, i meant like a little girl |
| 20:24.23 | tarzeau | bird: nethack |
| 20:24.28 | setuid_w00t | abrotman: I would rather be ignored than get responses from asshats like yourself |
| 20:24.31 | Kovecses | abrotman, helped me how? |
| 20:24.32 | tarzeau | bird: http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
| 20:24.35 | unix_infidel | is there any reason why fonts on fluxbox are larger when i execute from startx as opposed to kdm? |
| 20:24.36 | abrotman | setuid_w00t: fine .. put me on ignore idiot |
| 20:24.43 | ringo999 | is it possible to install debian on a mac(ibm) |
| 20:24.54 | foo | signius: Everything works except for after I select tp.debian.org ... I'm 100% I configured it fine. I have dhcp. I've done this on several systems and always seem to have issues with this. |
| 20:24.55 | tarzeau | ringo999: i think so |
| 20:25.10 | abrotman | Kovecses: did you know oo.o was at backports? .. you never did answer me why you *need* 2.0.1 instead of 2.0.0 (but i suspect some day 2.0.1 will make it to backports.org) |
| 20:25.16 | Kovecses | bird, alien arena 2006 is good too |
| 20:25.23 | bird | crap... I forgot how to launch kde :( |
| 20:25.31 | abrotman | startkde ? |
| 20:25.39 | bird | ty |
| 20:25.42 | Kovecses | abrotman, yes and if you listened I KNEW it was there... but like i said i want the newest version |
| 20:25.43 | raf256[laptop] | startkde indeed |
| 20:25.47 | raf256[laptop] | or gdm and from it |
| 20:25.48 | abrotman | Kovecses: why? |
| 20:26.01 | Kovecses | abrotman, read the freaking changelog |
| 20:26.03 | abrotman | Kovecses: of course .. you could also ask #debian-oo |
| 20:26.08 | rublind | How do I fix all these locale warnings/errors ? |
| 20:26.08 | LP_WiZaRd | is there anyboby to talk with? |
| 20:26.09 | mfrisch | I am about to kill my cousin |
| 20:26.13 | abrotman | Kovecses: i don't use OO .. i don't care what the changelog says |
| 20:26.21 | Kovecses | abrotman, great |
| 20:26.25 | Kovecses | abrotman, then enough about it |
| 20:26.27 | signius | foo: i been messing with a few different debian installers over the last few days and i found that the DHCP client doesnt always work first time i have had to make it go back and try again on a few occasions and it ussually gets it the second attempt |
| 20:26.29 | LP_WiZaRd | why to kill him? |
| 20:26.29 | bird | uh oh.. startkde returns "kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server" (and it keeps scrooling) |
| 20:26.29 | raf256[laptop] | are debian admins thinking about fixing packages server in this century? |
| 20:26.32 | abrotman | LP_WiZaRd: setuid_w00t would like someone to chat with |
| 20:26.36 | rigger | ringo999 use powerpc for macs |
| 20:26.39 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: ask them .. how would we know ? |
| 20:26.51 | setuid_w00t | haha |
| 20:26.55 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: parhaps someone other did asked |
| 20:26.57 | foo | signius: I am in another tty and I can ping google and get out fine. It's something with the mirror. |
| 20:27.00 | foo | Has to be |
| 20:27.00 | abrotman | rigger: if he meant PPC macs .. and not intel macs |
| 20:27.10 | signius | ah ok |
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| 20:27.16 | mfrisch | LP_WiZaRd he is young and insulting me left and right :-( |
| 20:27.18 | abrotman | or he meant IBM PPC machines |
| 20:27.27 | raf256[laptop] | also, I just wanted to rant a bit |
| 20:27.31 | signius | try picking another mirror and see if that resolves it |
| 20:27.41 | raf256[laptop] | !bushsmite packages.debian.org admins |
| 20:27.43 | rigger | abrotman ibm's are powerpc's |
| 20:27.47 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: i think they are rewriting the scripts for packages.d.o |
| 20:27.53 | foo | signius: Alright, got the USC mirrors working. rutgers and the other one didn't work |
| 20:27.56 | signius | from what i recall when i had problems in the past it was with the main debian ftp server i think it just gets overloaded |
| 20:27.59 | LP_WiZaRd | ah don't be sad just kill him! :) |
| 20:27.59 | abrotman | rigger: not all IBM machines are PPC .. not all Macs are PPC |
| 20:28.13 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: I dont understand why they couldnt leave the old one in the meantime |
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| 20:28.18 | mfrisch | rigger IBM uses ppc?? |
| 20:28.20 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: it was killing the server |
| 20:28.23 | Kovecses | yeah i have an ibm with an intel chipset |
| 20:28.24 | abrotman | mfrisch: pSeries |
| 20:28.35 | mfrisch | ahh |
| 20:28.36 | LP_WiZaRd | wth? |
| 20:28.37 | abrotman | mfrisch: they call it Power |
| 20:28.45 | abrotman | like Power5 or Power4 etc |
| 20:28.46 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: well now it is useless. For a month I can't see [easly] changelog of given package. |
| 20:28.47 | mfrisch | OH God |
| 20:28.48 | signius | foo: what country are you in ? |
| 20:28.54 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: did you read the topic ? |
| 20:28.59 | rigger | mfrisch yeah I think all ibm macs are powerpc's |
| 20:29.05 | abrotman | ibm doesnt' sell macs |
| 20:29.15 | foo | signius: USA, CA |
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| 20:29.19 | abrotman | they sell pSeries .. that use the PPC chips |
| 20:29.20 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: now, how to tell Synaptic to use that? |
| 20:29.22 | LP_WiZaRd | mfrisch: what is it now/ |
| 20:29.28 | mfrisch | abrotman you are talking about rackmount right? |
| 20:29.33 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: nfc .. i thought you meant to use the website |
| 20:29.35 | raf256[laptop] | it would be easier to use pdo. for testing and left the old running |
| 20:29.49 | abrotman | mfrisch: rackmount xSeries are x86/x86_64 afaik |
| 20:30.06 | raf256[laptop] | thats how we updated our www server in nuclear science insitute |
| 20:30.08 | mfrisch | I am confused |
| 20:30.10 | abrotman | mfrisch: i'm not sure if IBM sells pSeries rackmount |
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| 20:30.21 | LP_WiZaRd | me too |
| 20:30.26 | rublind | apt-setup picks fast mirrors for sources.list, right? |
| 20:30.30 | abrotman | apt-spy |
| 20:30.40 | Kovecses | rublind, you pick the mirrors |
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| 20:30.42 | LP_WiZaRd | hay xorian |
| 20:30.43 | abrotman | mfrisch: ah . they sell Power blades |
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| 20:30.50 | rublind | Okay. |
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| 20:30.57 | raf256[laptop] | is it easy to build own distro on top od debian? |
| 20:31.02 | Tuttle_ | Sarge: Why the /etc/cron.daily/quota does not run quotacheck? It is not needed? |
| 20:31.05 | rublind | Is it a good idea (and if yes, then how do I do it) upgrade my kernel to 2.6? |
| 20:31.05 | Kovecses | rublind, i use mirrors.kernel.org |
| 20:31.07 | mfrisch | abrotman what os? Solaris? |
| 20:31.08 | raf256[laptop] | hmm its live cd..I suppose I should use knoppix? |
| 20:31.17 | rublind | Kovecses: thank youi. |
| 20:31.19 | abrotman | mfrisch: AIX afaik .. or linux .. i don't think solaris runs on PPC |
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| 20:31.36 | Kovecses | rublind, what kind of hardware do you have? |
| 20:31.53 | rublind | Kovecses: a laptop, an old one, IBM ThinkPad 570E |
| 20:32.09 | Brumac | Is Debian (woody) compatible with ATI Radeon 9000? |
| 20:32.10 | Kovecses | rublind, then 2.4 should be fine |
| 20:32.15 | rublind | Okay, thank you. |
| 20:32.22 | abrotman | mfrisch: and it does appear IBM sells Power rackmounts |
| 20:32.24 | Kovecses | Brumac, why not use sarge? |
| 20:32.32 | rublind | How do I install KDE? (I'm a n00b, I know, I know) apt-get install kde ? |
| 20:32.38 | abrotman | !install kde |
| 20:32.38 | dpkg | hmm... install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 20:32.39 | bird | after net-get installing a program where is the most likely place to find it? |
| 20:32.40 | Brumac | Well I'de like that...but where do I download the image? |
| 20:32.46 | signius | I just hope you dont have the fucked up cray mouse shit problems i have with my IBM R31 |
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| 20:32.56 | abrotman | !d-i Brumac |
| 20:32.57 | dpkg | Brumac, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 20:33.03 | Kovecses | Brumac, try debian.org |
| 20:33.05 | Brumac | once woody is installed can I install sarge via the command line? |
| 20:33.13 | mfrisch | abrotman thats strange, for big blue. I would think Intel has all their market. |
| 20:33.20 | foo | I am trying to compile something and I am getting bash: gtk-config: command not found ... I try apt-file/apt-cache search gtk-config and I get nothing. Why isn't this returning something? |
| 20:33.37 | abrotman | Kovecses: as an alternative .. you can /msg dpkg simple sid backport .. sid has 2.0.1 .. as does etch |
| 20:33.37 | mfrisch | foo you want gtk-dev |
| 20:33.39 | foo | oh, wait, apt-file returned something |
| 20:33.48 | foo | Sweet |
| 20:33.51 | cheal | rublind: ask #debian-kde |
| 20:34.08 | abrotman | mfrisch: depends on the workload i suppose .. i know a place that was(is?) using a few dozen PPC rackmount servers for mail |
| 20:34.12 | foo | Hmm, there isn't a way for a script to test debian mirrors and choose the fastest, is there? |
| 20:34.12 | Kovecses | abrotman, thanks |
| 20:34.19 | foo | I am getting 15kb/s down .. which sucks. |
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| 20:34.22 | abrotman | Kovecses: i'll go back to whining now! |
| 20:34.30 | abrotman | foo: apt-spy |
| 20:34.36 | foo | abrotman: I'll be darn. Thanks. |
| 20:34.40 | Kovecses | abrotman, no ... your the man. |
| 20:34.45 | abrotman | you're |
| 20:35.00 | Kovecses | pigeons? |
| 20:35.08 | abrotman | mmm .. duck |
| 20:35.09 | Kovecses | bbl gonna play games |
| 20:35.46 | bird | nick bubba |
| 20:35.46 | LP_WiZaRd | i'm bored! |
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| 20:35.57 | LP_WiZaRd | hay raden |
| 20:36.02 | abrotman | not a social channel |
| 20:36.02 | Brumac | once woody is installed is there a way to install Sarge via the command line? |
| 20:36.04 | raden | whats the command to run the lm_sensors config |
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| 20:36.08 | raden | LP_WiZaRd, hye |
| 20:36.12 | mfrisch | abrotman I have not been to too many serverroms. I have only seen Intel or AMD though. I am sure the price difference scares people. |
| 20:36.14 | abrotman | !tell Brumac about woody->sarge |
| 20:36.17 | bubba | after net-get installing "nethack" which folder could find it? |
| 20:36.20 | signius | foo: i think you need the libgtk devel package |
| 20:36.29 | abrotman | mfrisch: go find a gov't place . take a tour |
| 20:36.32 | LP_WiZaRd | raden:why raden? |
| 20:36.48 | raden | cause it wont stop beeping |
| 20:36.49 | LP_WiZaRd | :( |
| 20:36.51 | mfrisch | abrotman you say that like they would let me in! |
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| 20:37.01 | abrotman | mfrisch: depends on the place .. they may |
| 20:37.15 | LP_WiZaRd | ??? |
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| 20:37.29 | signius | foo: libgtl1.2-dev i think |
| 20:37.34 | signius | oops |
| 20:37.43 | signius | foo: libgtk1.2-dev i think even |
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| 20:37.46 | foo | signius: Yeah, apt-file told me :) Thanks |
| 20:37.58 | streuner | raden: sensors-detect |
| 20:38.01 | foo | Bah, the mirror that is slow is security.debian.org. This mirror is always slow for me |
| 20:38.04 | LP_WiZaRd | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:38.04 | signius | ooh i am not familiar with apt-file |
| 20:38.10 | raden | streuner, thanks |
| 20:38.18 | Brumac | ty abrotman |
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| 20:38.23 | Brumac | thats pretty neat |
| 20:38.52 | diogenes | jetscreamer: didn't work, hde1 not found and it dropped me to a shell again |
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| 20:38.57 | doublehp_ | how to get mplayer and transcode on Alpha ? (i know how to get it for x86, putting MArillat in sources/list, but seems not to work for Alpha) |
| 20:39.00 | signius | I didnt know about apt-file that looks like that could save me alot of searching in the future |
| 20:39.12 | adub | URGENT: please someone help me my laptops keyboard is slllllllllllllllow <------------- it took 5 minutes to type that |
| 20:39.23 | mortal | interrupts? |
| 20:39.26 | mfrisch | doublehp_ marillat has i386 and amd-64 ports |
| 20:39.27 | blondie | adub: call 911 quick! |
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| 20:40.15 | Brumac | kk actually my ATI Radeon 9000 worked fine with woody |
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| 20:40.25 | Brumac | I'll still switch it to sarge later |
| 20:40.27 | LP_WiZaRd | yeah blondie's right! call 911! |
| 20:40.35 | daxxar | adub, yet you were only here for 18 seconds? :o |
| 20:40.36 | doublehp_ | mfrisch: so, no chance with Debian-Alpha ? |
| 20:40.50 | LP_WiZaRd | nop |
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| 20:41.00 | signius | Actually i dont know why i am wasting so much time messing about getting every little thing sorted on my laptop tonight i got a bigger HDD coming tomorrow for this lappy what an idiot i spent all day messing with this |
| 20:41.03 | mfrisch | doublehp_ I am looking give me a sec |
| 20:41.10 | foo | Hm, anyone use festival? festival> (SayText "Hello") isn't saying anything. hmm |
| 20:42.00 | signius | only got festival to work with kismet last time i couldnt work out the cryptic syntax it wanted to say stuff for me |
| 20:42.13 | bubba | I installed nethack and nethack-gnome but typing either one in console does not start it.. I am so confused!! |
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| 20:42.26 | murtun | hey all |
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| 20:42.39 | LP_WiZaRd | hay murtun! |
| 20:42.49 | Sonny | hi, I-m trying to re-install grub but I receive this output: http://pastebin.com/563240 |
| 20:42.50 | LP_WiZaRd | hay sonny |
| 20:42.54 | bubba | see: http://kevan.org/nethack :) |
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| 20:43.17 | murtun | I need some help installing php |
| 20:43.22 | murtun | apt-get install php4 |
| 20:43.29 | murtun | works fine |
| 20:43.41 | murtun | but, i'm not even sure what that just did |
| 20:43.43 | murtun | ... |
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| 20:43.48 | bubba | I installed nethack and nethack-gnome but typing either one in console does not start it.. how do I find it\? |
| 20:44.00 | blondie | murtun: libapache-mod-php4? |
| 20:44.01 | murtun | whereis nethack |
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| 20:44.23 | murtun | blondie, i don't know what i mean by that |
| 20:44.34 | daxxar | bubba, dpkg -L nethack |
| 20:44.36 | bubba | murtun: apt-get install nethack |
| 20:44.37 | zebalin4 | I used Kong to open a partition to copy a file from. Now I can't unmunt it even as root: umount: /media/sdb3: device is busy |
| 20:44.45 | zebalin4 | It's not busy!! |
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| 20:44.51 | daxxar | bubba, or dpkg -L nethack|grep /bin/ |
| 20:44.56 | murtun | lol, i don't want nethack |
| 20:45.01 | murtun | i want php :) |
| 20:45.13 | Eulex | zebalin4, it's busy when you have any program open that has it as current directory |
| 20:45.17 | murtun | shouldn't i be ab;e to run "php index.php" |
| 20:45.25 | blondie | murtun: install it |
| 20:45.27 | Eulex | zebalin4, lsof|grep /media/sdb3 |
| 20:45.30 | mfrisch | doublehp_ I am looking on the ftp and only see i386 ppc sparc and amd-64. |
| 20:45.30 | daxxar | murtun, I think that's php4-cli :-) |
| 20:45.30 | blondie | apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 |
| 20:45.34 | signius | foo: so using that apt-file command how would you search for gtk-config i dont seem to be getting the syntax correct |
| 20:45.37 | zebalin4 | Eulex: no probram is open. I closed kong |
| 20:45.42 | blondie | or libapache2-mod-php4 for apache2 |
| 20:45.48 | murtun | Oh right... |
| 20:45.58 | murtun | So how can i check if it is installed? |
| 20:46.04 | foo | signius: apt-file update && apt-file search gtk-config |
| 20:46.07 | blondie | apt-get install :P |
| 20:46.12 | Eulex | zebalin4, try lsof|grep /media/sdb3 anyway. |
| 20:46.14 | signius | oh wow i was way off |
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| 20:46.17 | blondie | if it's already installed, it'll tell you |
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| 20:46.20 | Geren | hi all |
| 20:46.20 | signius | the man page didnt help me much |
| 20:46.28 | Geren | how is the inter company? |
| 20:46.34 | blondie | inter company? |
| 20:46.42 | murtun | signius, never do :P |
| 20:46.49 | Geren | the cpu company |
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| 20:46.57 | Brumac | k I looked at the sources.list and I didn't see any mention of "woody" |
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| 20:47.25 | signius | i get sh: curl: command not found |
| 20:47.33 | signius | when i execute what you said |
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| 20:47.41 | zebalin4 | Eulex: You are right. What IS this. Nothing is open: konqueror 13496 al 22r REG 8,19 82337 40478 /media/sdb3/home/al/jaya123Media/2006 BB PE Agree't.pdf |
| 20:47.43 | doublehp_ | mfrisch: so ... no luck for Alpha users ? :( |
| 20:48.09 | abrotman | doublehp_: you'd have to compile it |
| 20:48.13 | abrotman | if it will compile at all |
| 20:48.14 | zebalin4 | Eulex: I'll kill it. It was a copy that didn't work and it must have left a zombie?? |
| 20:48.19 | abrotman | signius: install it |
| 20:48.47 | signius | lol yeah now i am your boat and dont know what particular curl i need to install |
| 20:48.51 | doublehp_ | abrotman: thats the point ... "worth try" ? thanks |
| 20:48.55 | mfrisch | doublehp_ just no deb you can compile :-( |
| 20:49.06 | abrotman | doublehp_: you could try the source package from marillat maybe? |
| 20:49.14 | abrotman | !find bin/curl sarge |
| 20:49.15 | signius | and also shouldnt apt have taken care of that when i did apt-get install apt-file |
| 20:49.27 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/curl' (2): (/usr/bin/curl) in web/curl ;; (/usr/bin/curl-config) in libdevel/libcurl3-dev. |
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| 20:49.53 | Eulex | zebalin4, yep, kill it |
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| 20:50.14 | tribu | hola |
| 20:50.15 | zebalin4 | Eulex: I did. Thaks for the losf lesson. I'll know better next time. |
| 20:50.22 | tribu | quien habla español |
| 20:50.24 | abrotman | !es |
| 20:50.24 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 20:50.32 | zebalin4 | Eulex: I killed it and was then able to umount it via the right-click thing. |
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| 20:51.11 | tribu | buenas |
| 20:51.37 | LP_WiZaRd | buenas tribu |
| 20:51.49 | abrotman | tribu: #debian-es por favor |
| 20:52.16 | LP_WiZaRd | yo no hable espanol |
| 20:52.20 | tribu | bueno |
| 20:52.30 | tribu | esto de que va |
| 20:52.36 | tribu | solo de debian |
| 20:52.40 | abrotman | no espanol aqui .. #debian-es |
| 20:52.47 | tribu | o se pueden tratar otros temas |
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| 20:53.30 | LP_WiZaRd | porfavor able de english |
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| 20:53.56 | LP_WiZaRd | hay liltank |
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| 20:54.04 | liltank | whats up |
| 20:54.09 | LP_WiZaRd | hayninjak |
| 20:54.12 | abrotman | LP_WiZaRd: you know this isn't a social channel .. right ? |
| 20:54.20 | signius | hmm just install libcurl3-dev and all the other deps it wanted to install and got the same problem libcurl3 is already installed |
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| 20:54.33 | liltank | any one know anything on DNS Servers |
| 20:54.37 | abrotman | signius: apt-get install curl ? |
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| 20:54.44 | adub | daxxar i copy and pasted that |
| 20:54.46 | abrotman | liltank: that's a bit vague |
| 20:54.51 | LP_WiZaRd | just nothing....yes abrotman i know |
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| 20:55.28 | liltank | well i need to know if we all have DNS servers on are systems |
| 20:55.33 | signius | DUH yeah that would be it |
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| 20:55.40 | signius | i didnt see it when i did a search for curl |
| 20:55.46 | abrotman | liltank: huh ? |
| 20:55.56 | abrotman | !tell signius about search |
| 20:56.01 | derek_ | Hi! I found that the default ubuntu install does not read ~/.xinitrc Does anybody know how to execute commands using GDM? |
| 20:56.03 | liltank | do we all have dns servers on our systems |
| 20:56.08 | abrotman | lilo: oh .. our . not are :) |
| 20:56.15 | abrotman | lilo: sorry .. misfire |
| 20:56.24 | signius | slaps myself with a wet fish |
| 20:56.28 | abrotman | liltank: is bind installed? .. is it listening on port 53 ? |
| 20:56.34 | drac | derek_: This is not #ubuntu , but it's ~/.xsession |
| 20:56.41 | derek_ | thx |
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| 20:56.57 | nvz | hmm I guess these ipod shuffle need indexed music.. I will probably have to use gtk pod.. it doesnt seem to work just transfering |
| 20:56.58 | derek_ | i'm in #ubuntu.. but looks like no one sees my messages |
| 20:57.11 | abrotman | derek_: they just don't know .. maybe you should install debian :) |
| 20:57.18 | derek_ | lol |
| 20:57.18 | signius | i noticed the other day ubuntu have broken the debian installer at the beginning you cant turn off frame buffers |
| 20:57.23 | signius | you can in proper debian |
| 20:57.40 | liltank | yes i have bind |
| 20:57.52 | ice_1963 | well give them hell in ubuntu |
| 20:58.03 | liltank | that means i got a DNS server right |
| 20:58.15 | derek_ | cat ~/.xsession |
| 20:58.15 | derek_ | cat: /home/derek/.xsession: No such file or directory |
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| 20:58.21 | abrotman | it means it is installed .. might not be listening |
| 20:58.21 | derek_ | abrotman |
| 20:58.24 | abrotman | derek_: create it |
| 20:58.30 | derek_ | ok |
| 20:58.38 | abrotman | derek_: now run along to #ubuntu |
| 20:58.46 | derek_ | i'm there |
| 20:58.57 | abrotman | ok .. now ask them :) |
| 20:59.05 | derek_ | btw, do you need to add an ampersand at the end of each command in this file? |
| 20:59.19 | derek_ | or a carriage-return is enough? |
| 20:59.23 | drac | derek_: & |
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| 21:00.08 | Geren | oh god, oh wow |
| 21:00.10 | Geren | that was good |
| 21:00.19 | derek_ | :) |
| 21:00.19 | punk_rock_girl | what? |
| 21:00.24 | derek_ | you |
| 21:00.37 | punk_rock_girl | who? |
| 21:00.39 | drac | It's almost silent here, amazing. Let's not spoil it. |
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| 21:01.36 | HEx | is there any way to visualize dependency chains? apt-get seems to want to install/upgrade a whole bunch of unrelated packages and I can't figure out why |
| 21:01.53 | abrotman | i think there's a way to do it in dotty format |
| 21:02.13 | BLAFD | doesnjt aptitude show dependancys |
| 21:02.20 | Brumac | anyone try ubuntu? |
| 21:02.26 | abrotman | ask #ubuntu |
| 21:02.27 | streuner | #ubuntu? |
| 21:02.30 | punk_rock_girl | i did |
| 21:02.47 | BLAFD | it was haggis++ huray |
| 21:02.47 | unlearn | debian is really good |
| 21:03.04 | unlearn | i can't c me switching to another distro |
| 21:03.10 | punk_rock_girl | :( |
| 21:03.34 | ice_1963 | install debian |
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| 21:05.15 | derek_ | thanks |
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| 21:06.42 | HEx | hmm, apt-rdepdends may do what I want |
| 21:06.48 | HEx | -d |
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| 21:08.13 | foo | Err, I am downloading from usc mirrors at around 1kb/s ... could I ctrl+c this and resume it or something? |
| 21:08.39 | Eulex | foo, when apt-getting? |
| 21:08.50 | foo | Eulex: It's downloading packages. probably bad. Just wondering. |
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| 21:09.10 | Eulex | foo, yes, you can do that. it will resume where you stopped it. |
| 21:09.30 | diogenes | i'm still getting the "/dev/hda1 does not exist" -error st boot changing to /dev/hde1 in grub didn't help.. |
| 21:10.02 | diogenes | i got "/dev/hde1 does not exist" instead ... |
| 21:10.09 | foo | Eulex: ah, ok |
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| 21:10.31 | Nz17 | How can I upgrade the dependencies of a package? |
| 21:10.38 | Eulex | foo, you could probably change to another mirror too. nevere tested it, though. |
| 21:10.47 | foo | Eulex: Right. Thanks. |
| 21:10.48 | signius | doesnt grub use hd0,0 or something not hda1 |
| 21:11.07 | signius | it been a long time since i messed with it so smack me with a wet fish if i am completely wrong |
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| 21:11.20 | ringo999 | what is a good pdf viewer tool under debian? |
| 21:11.29 | Nz17 | xpdf |
| 21:11.30 | diogenes | "root=/dev/hda1 ro" |
| 21:11.40 | diogenes | oslt |
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| 21:11.59 | diogenes | the hd0,0 was there too - do i need to change that? |
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| 21:12.15 | Eulex | diogenes, could the pastebin the whole thing? |
| 21:12.19 | streuner | ringo999: acroread is avaiable too (/msg dpkg marillat) |
| 21:12.20 | ringo999 | Nz17: thx |
| 21:12.25 | abrotman | eww .. acroread! |
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| 21:12.38 | signius | let me have a look at mine i will see if i can help |
| 21:13.01 | Eulex | diogenes, s/could the/could you/ |
| 21:13.02 | Broomy | does GNU nano have support for c++ syntax highlightning? |
| 21:13.35 | diogenes | Eulex: i don't think i can unless i copy the whole thing by hand.. |
| 21:13.48 | Eulex | diogenes, just the boot and kernel lines. |
| 21:14.17 | diogenes | can i see them somewhere without booting again? |
| 21:14.34 | Nz17 | No problem, just remember that there are a lot of PDF readers for Linux, including gpdf and Adobe Acrobat Reader. |
| 21:14.42 | Eulex | diogenes, /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 21:15.11 | unlearn | kpdf is another one |
| 21:15.33 | Nz17 | That one is good too. |
| 21:15.36 | diogenes | root (hd0,0) |
| 21:15.40 | signius | are you in the menu.lst for grub ? |
| 21:15.45 | drac | evince is pdf reader nice too. |
| 21:15.52 | drac | (when it works ;)) |
| 21:16.17 | ice_1963 | will Acrobat Reader work with konqueror? |
| 21:16.22 | diogenes | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro |
| 21:16.43 | Eulex | diogenes, that looks ok to me. |
| 21:17.17 | signius | its not root= it is just root (hd0,0) on mine |
| 21:17.20 | diogenes | yes, but at boot it says that /dev/hda1 does not exist and drops me to a shell |
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| 21:17.32 | Usiu | Hi |
| 21:17.51 | m1ke_l | hi |
| 21:17.58 | Usiu | I am trying to run firestarter as user.. I did visudo added it for me.. but I get Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: plz help |
| 21:17.59 | Eulex | diogenes, well, does it exist? |
| 21:18.09 | signius | well mine is root (hd0,1) as debian is on the 2nd partition and xp pro on the first partition |
| 21:18.20 | diogenes | there were only /dev/console and /dev/null |
| 21:18.23 | signius | ah i see |
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| 21:18.41 | m1ke_l | usiu: is X open when you run it? |
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| 21:19.07 | peritus | how is the debian way to disable xdm? |
| 21:19.10 | drac | I think sudo losts DISPLAY=:0.0 environment variable. |
| 21:19.18 | m1ke_l | remove it from /etc/init.d/rc2.d |
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| 21:19.28 | Eulex | !nodm |
| 21:19.28 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 21:19.31 | abrotman | !tell peritus about nodm |
| 21:19.32 | Usiu | m1ke_l, yes... sudo firestarter --display :0 works but it doesnt use my gtk theme :( |
| 21:19.39 | abrotman | gksu ? |
| 21:19.43 | Eulex | diogenes, how do you know that there's only /dev/console and /dev/null? btw, have you possible got a sata or scsi hdd? |
| 21:19.44 | signius | ok iam with you now |
| 21:19.57 | Eulex | Usiu, that's very normal. you could try sux. |
| 21:19.57 | signius | so its the kernel part of grub you are trying to sort out |
| 21:20.17 | diogenes | Eulex: the boot dropped me to some shell.. said ls /dev/ |
| 21:20.29 | Usiu | Eulex, thx |
| 21:20.29 | diogenes | just an ide hdd |
| 21:20.48 | Eulex | Usiu, yw :) |
| 21:20.50 | signius | What partitons do you have on the HDD ? |
| 21:20.54 | Eulex | diogenes, hmm, then I dunno |
| 21:20.59 | Usiu | Eulex, but how to use it ? |
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| 21:21.08 | diogenes | signius: /, swap and /home/ |
| 21:21.21 | signius | and which hda did you install / to ? |
| 21:21.27 | Eulex | Usiu, man sux |
| 21:21.28 | diogenes | hda1 |
| 21:21.31 | signius | ok which one i / on |
| 21:21.46 | diogenes | the machine worked fine until i did dist-upgrade |
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| 21:22.08 | Usiu | Eulex, sudo firestarter --display :0 its not su its sudo |
| 21:22.13 | Platyna | Hi. |
| 21:22.21 | Eulex | Usiu, doesn't matter. try sux. |
| 21:22.24 | Platyna | What the heck is with that fricking svc? |
| 21:22.35 | diogenes | jetscreamer told me to try changing /dev/hda1 to /dev/hde1 in grub |
| 21:22.40 | Platyna | -d not works -k not works -t not works. |
| 21:22.41 | signius | ok mine reads |
| 21:22.59 | Usiu | Eulex, it askes for password :( |
| 21:23.06 | Eulex | Platyna, aren't you on slack? czesc, btw :) |
| 21:23.21 | Platyna | I am. But I was forced to use debian on one host. |
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| 21:23.29 | Platyna | God punished me that way. |
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| 21:23.53 | signius | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15.1-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro |
| 21:23.59 | Platyna | And now I have to do an important update and I can't. |
| 21:24.00 | drac | Anyone care to take a look at these Samba errors http://rafb.net/paste/results/wNuB1M35.html |
| 21:24.01 | Eulex | Usiu, root password |
| 21:24.08 | Usiu | Eulex, I dont know how to use it |
| 21:24.08 | nvz | SuseUser: the suse meeting is out back by the dumpster :P |
| 21:24.10 | Platyna | Because the damn think doesn't stop. |
| 21:24.18 | drac | Samba seems to be working just fine, but I can't find thing wrong in configs to get rid of these.. |
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| 21:24.38 | diogenes | /dev/hda1 /, /dev/hda6 /home and /dev/hda5 swap to be exact |
| 21:25.12 | signius | have you got mc or another text editer installed you like to use ? |
| 21:25.14 | Nz17 | How do I mount a partition on the network? |
| 21:25.51 | diogenes | i don't have mc installed |
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| 21:26.11 | signius | well you can use whatever text editor you like |
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| 21:26.19 | diogenes | vim |
| 21:26.26 | signius | is the system working at all ? |
| 21:26.42 | diogenes | i can boot with the 2.6.8-kernel |
| 21:26.52 | diogenes | but then x doesn't work |
| 21:26.54 | SuseUser | #flood |
| 21:27.04 | signius | did you run grub again after you did the new kernel |
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| 21:27.22 | diogenes | signius: no |
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| 21:27.24 | _rene_ | diogenes: I know that problem.. |
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| 21:27.37 | _rene_ | (has that with /dev/sda1 on my amd64 box) |
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| 21:27.43 | signius | i will confess its been a long time sisnce i messed with the boot loaders but i am sure you have to run grub after a new kernel |
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| 21:27.49 | roler | how can I clear the postfix outgoing email cache??? |
| 21:27.52 | roler | i want to drop ALL emails |
| 21:27.53 | _rene_ | boot a rescue system, chroot into the system |
| 21:27.55 | signius | but correct me in the room if i am wrong |
| 21:28.00 | diogenes | i just rebooted after a dist-upgrade |
| 21:28.01 | _rene_ | install initramfas-tools, deinstall yaird |
| 21:28.01 | signius | or help me out a bit |
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| 21:28.12 | _rene_ | then apt-get install --reinstall <your-kernel-image> |
| 21:28.19 | _rene_ | (if you use a debian kernel) |
| 21:28.20 | cri | #mepis-it |
| 21:28.32 | _rene_ | and make also sure you have the newest udev, assuming you use sid |
| 21:28.37 | diogenes | deinstall = remove? |
| 21:28.43 | _rene_ | purge |
| 21:28.44 | Nz17 | With LILO you must re-run it after changin the kernel. Grub only requires changing of its configuration file. |
| 21:28.59 | _rene_ | but remove also should work afais, but purge is safest :) |
| 21:29.32 | signius | diogenes: what happens if you /sbin/grub |
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| 21:30.16 | signius | from what i remember grub is much smarter when it comes to kernel changes than lilo |
| 21:30.39 | diogenes | probing devices to guess BIOS drives. this may take a long time |
| 21:30.54 | diogenes | and i got a shell |
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| 21:32.23 | diogenes | initramfs-tools is already at newest version |
| 21:32.38 | m1ke_l | this is weird...during install debian see's and assignes ip to nic...after install it just doesn't work. |
| 21:32.55 | sobersabre | hi guys. there's this RAID we have with reiserfs( which is unimportant, I just give it as extra info ). the re is a daily cronjob that executes quotacheck. |
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| 21:33.17 | _rene_ | diogenes: ok, then remove yaird and reinstall the kernel image |
| 21:33.22 | _rene_ | diogenes: helped here. |
| 21:33.27 | diogenes | yaird is not installed |
| 21:33.34 | sobersabre | how can I both have quota and not to disable filesystem for a period of time... ? |
| 21:33.38 | Sonny | hello do you know how to configure multichannel sound for an Audigy 2? I am with knoppix live cd now and I realize that it recognize the multichannel but mi etch not, what file do I have to check to copy to my debian? |
| 21:33.39 | sobersabre | Is it possible |
| 21:33.39 | _rene_ | diogenes: and as said, make sure you have the newest udev installed if you use udev |
| 21:33.47 | _rene_ | diogenes: then only try the install --reinstall ;) |
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| 21:34.00 | signius | Sonny try the knoppix channel |
| 21:34.03 | _rene_ | diogenes: something must've gone wrong with initrd creation. |
| 21:34.16 | _rene_ | diogenes: the --reinstall worked here for the exact same problem here |
| 21:34.36 | _rene_ | (/dev/sda1 and amd64 but otherwise the exact same problem) |
| 21:34.44 | HEx | apt-rdepends doesn't seem to be helping. my specific problem is that upgrading wine wants to pull in mozilla(!), and I can't see any intersection of their dependencies... is there any way to ask apt why it came to the conclusion it did? |
| 21:35.27 | sobersabre | I haven't told the problem: during quotacheck execution, I must mount the scanned RAID partitions in read-only mode. |
| 21:35.28 | diogenes | reinstalled the kernel |
| 21:35.38 | diogenes | i'll try a reboot |
| 21:35.46 | diogenes | brb |
| 21:35.51 | sobersabre | this creates File Access downtime: users cannot write to the files during that check. |
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| 21:36.13 | mohkohn | I seem to be having trouble playing streaming media...particularly Streamtuner streams. Also downloaded Mp3's will play from juK but not in xmms. |
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| 21:36.40 | sobersabre | all the docs I've seen ( as quotacheck man ) assume you can have several minutes downtime during quotacheck... what if I cannot have it ? |
| 21:37.03 | sobersabre | ideas/links for docs are welcome. |
| 21:37.05 | signius | diogenes: there is a way to test the grub configuration without rebooting i cant recall how to do it but i am sure someone in here will know |
| 21:37.33 | mohkohn | The problem occurs in gnome kde and fluxbox. |
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| 21:38.01 | [M]erk | !sun-j2sdk |
| 21:38.03 | Sonny | #knoppix |
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| 21:38.12 | [M]erk | !sun-j2sdk1.5 |
| 21:38.14 | derek_ | I created the file .xsession, but not able to use it.. getting some errors |
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| 21:38.18 | [M]erk | !sun-j2sdk.1.5 |
| 21:38.29 | Neverth | mohkohn, apt-cache search xmms and look for plugins and enable them |
| 21:38.48 | freeone3000 | SIGSEGV doesn't look good. |
| 21:38.57 | freeone3000 | What's it mean? |
| 21:38.57 | mohkohn | thanks for the tip Neverth |
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| 21:40.56 | diogenes | _rene_: didn't help |
| 21:41.17 | diogenes | i still got the "/dev/hda1 does not exist" |
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| 21:41.34 | Kizmet | Is the bind9 debian package IPv6 enabled yet ? |
| 21:41.58 | petemc | Kizmet: it has been for years |
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| 21:42.14 | Kizmet | petemc, well i cant get it to listen on my IPv6 addresses |
| 21:42.23 | petemc | wfm |
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| 21:42.50 | sobersabre | Kizmet do you have an ipv6 iface up and ping6-able |
| 21:42.50 | sobersabre | ? |
| 21:42.55 | Kizmet | uhm |
| 21:42.57 | Kizmet | yes |
| 21:43.05 | Kizmet | Just a native IPv6 ethernet cable :) |
| 21:43.12 | Sonny | does someboby know how to configure the multichannel sound in etch? with some audigy? |
| 21:43.14 | Kizmet | server is in CoLo |
| 21:43.44 | sobersabre | and what error do you have when trying to specify "listen on blabla::::;" ? |
| 21:44.14 | Kizmet | Shouldnt the package listen on * when no listen lines are in the config(s) ? |
| 21:44.14 | sobersabre | Kizmet the prev. line was for you... |
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| 21:44.31 | dannyp | yeah, I was trying to upgrade from IPv4 to IPv6, but I didn't want to have to run new cable everywhere |
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| 21:45.01 | Kizmet | dannyp, Dont be a smart ass. They seperated there network.. :) |
| 21:45.13 | dannyp | I like being a smartass! |
| 21:45.25 | sobersabre | Kizmet I don't know wheather it should: the config should say that., but * means any IPv4 addres. and, if I am not mistaken "any IPv6" address should have another wildcard... |
| 21:45.38 | Kizmet | hmm |
| 21:45.54 | sobersabre | something like ::::* ... I don't remember. |
| 21:46.11 | sobersabre | look at /etc/hosts |
| 21:47.00 | biopyte | hi. i'm not giving up :). how can i set as user the PATH variable when starting a X session via xdm? setting PATH in ~/.Xsession, ~/.xinitrc, ~/.Xresources, ~/.Xdefaults did not work on debian/etch x.org 6.9. |
| 21:47.07 | sobersabre | Kizmet: ff02::3 ip6-allhosts |
| 21:47.22 | Kizmet | So.... listen-on { ff02::3; }; |
| 21:47.28 | sobersabre | right. |
| 21:47.30 | Kizmet | no |
| 21:47.33 | Kizmet | So.... listen-on { ::ff02::3; }; |
| 21:47.39 | Kizmet | ahh im confuzed |
| 21:47.59 | Kizmet | could be listen-on { [ff02::3]; }; |
| 21:48.00 | Kizmet | too |
| 21:48.00 | Kizmet | lol |
| 21:48.26 | sobersabre | whatever... I'd read on IPv6 address conventions, if I were you... I am not sure about the "exact" thing. but, we're in the direction... aren't we ? |
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| 21:48.41 | Kizmet | hehe |
| 21:48.58 | DaBPunkt | Kizmet: 2 times :: ist AFAK forbitten |
| 21:48.58 | sobersabre | I am certain that * doesn't catch IPv6. |
| 21:49.12 | Sonny | is there any channel for "sound" issues? |
| 21:49.17 | Kizmet | kk |
| 21:49.24 | sobersabre | Sonny, channel-v |
| 21:49.40 | Neverth | Sonny, just ask |
| 21:49.46 | Sonny | does someboby know how to configure the multichannel sound in etch? with some audigy? |
| 21:49.49 | diogenes | argh there's nothing useful on google either :( |
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| 21:50.24 | sobersabre | Sonny, yes, somebody knows, and it must depend on "which" audigy. can you read on "how to ask smart questions" ? |
| 21:50.33 | Neverth | Sonny, got proper card, recommending alsa, and what is audigy |
| 21:50.47 | abrotman | or ask #alsa if you're using alsa |
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| 21:51.37 | sobersabre | Sonny, by the way, audigy is fully supported. I have a friend who uses it under linux, with no problem at all. |
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| 21:51.51 | ringo999 | question: i got kde/gnome/xfce installed, i figured xfce is what i want...so can i just remove all the gnome/kde base packages to get rid of them? what about things like alsa? will they still be available for xfce? |
| 21:51.56 | Neverth | alsa can handle 1-6 channels on amarok with xine, sb live 5.1 here |
| 21:51.59 | ice_1963 | apt-get install alsa-base and alsa-utils |
| 21:52.01 | abrotman | !remove kde |
| 21:52.01 | dpkg | it has been said that remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 21:52.03 | abrotman | !remove gnome |
| 21:52.03 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
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| 21:52.28 | sobersabre | Neverth alsa can handle much more channels, if you have propper h/w |
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| 21:53.05 | Neverth | sobersabre, i know, got cheap one here, another comp has 7.1 system |
| 21:53.36 | sobersabre | like.. RME Hammerfall, or RME HDSP ( 48 chans ... iirc) |
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| 21:53.56 | sobersabre | is 7.1 actually 8 all together ? |
| 21:54.00 | fas3r | after i have install ati driver for linux from ati site i make dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but i select what's driver ? ati , fglrx, ?? please help me ... |
| 21:54.02 | sobersabre | : ) |
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| 21:54.32 | devazion | fas3r: fglrx =) |
| 21:54.32 | drac | fas3r: fglrx is the driver from ATi, the closed source one, you prolly want that.. |
| 21:54.32 | Neverth | i know, im not complete idiot, only 3/4 |
| 21:54.39 | ringo999 | on xfce, trying to change the desktop backround wont do any changes? any idea? |
| 21:54.49 | OfficeChair | I reinstalled Sarge and installed linux image 2.6.15 from backports (I followed instructions.) |
| 21:54.50 | fas3r | oky thank :) |
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| 21:55.44 | sobersabre | 1/2 in here... ;-) |
| 21:55.45 | OfficeChair | Everything works fine, but when I boot up, there are lots of udev-related errors with messages like "run program failed" or "exec of program failed" or something like that. They go by too fast to see. WTF? |
| 21:56.00 | ringo999 | does evolution depend on gnome? |
| 21:56.02 | drac | ringo999: yeah, it's a known bug.. i've encounted that too. |
| 21:56.10 | ringo999 | drac: any fix? |
| 21:56.10 | fas3r | devazion, drac , but i need install the package fglrx no ? |
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| 21:56.20 | sobersabre | ringo999 it does on some libs. |
| 21:56.33 | drac | ringo999: quit X, quit Xfce4, quit everything, and copy http://hideout.unk.fi/~drac/desktop.xml to ~/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/ |
| 21:56.45 | drac | ringo999: start again, and try to change bg image.. |
| 21:56.50 | ringo999 | drac |
| 21:56.51 | ringo999 | k |
| 21:56.53 | fas3r | i say this , because i don't see fglrx on the list .. |
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| 21:57.11 | drac | ringo999: this is on bugzilla.xfce.org , that fixed it for me , but ask more on #xfce , good luck & good night ;) |
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| 21:57.24 | ringo999 | drac: thx will try ;) |
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| 21:58.41 | OfficeChair | I am getting errors related to hotplug when I boot up after I installed kernel 2.6.15 from backports. |
| 21:58.46 | Kizmetz | sobersabre, did you get my messages before ? |
| 21:59.08 | annoia | Is xserver-xorg in experimental? That is, are my experimental sources incomplete? :P |
| 21:59.38 | abrotman | it's in etch/sid/ |
| 21:59.47 | annoia | 7.0... |
| 21:59.50 | diogenes | any one else managed to fix the "/dev/hda1 does not exist" thing? |
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| 22:00.04 | OfficeChair | diogenes: Add a hard disk drive. |
| 22:00.11 | diogenes | OfficeChair: haha |
| 22:00.16 | _rene_ | diogenes: I did. (with /dev/sda1) |
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| 22:00.36 | diogenes | _rene_: i did what you said, but it didn't work |
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| 22:00.58 | OfficeChair | diogenes: I was serious. |
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| 22:01.13 | _rene_ | you did do a dist-upgrade? you have up-to-date versions of all relevant packages? |
| 22:01.15 | foo | Does apt-spy ever stop? Or do I need to manually stop it? |
| 22:01.40 | diogenes | _rene_: that was what i did before the problem occurred.. |
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| 22:01.52 | rodrigo | hi |
| 22:01.55 | _rene_ | diogenes: then do it again. ;) |
| 22:01.57 | rodrigo | i'm trying to compile a program |
| 22:02.00 | diogenes | k |
| 22:02.07 | rodrigo | but on the configure step i get this error: |
| 22:02.11 | rodrigo | ' configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables' |
| 22:02.31 | abrotman | build-essential |
| 22:02.42 | sander | hi.. anyone can help me getting my sound card to work.. got a bad background noice when I start playing anything.. and when I record it. and play it off.. it gets even worse. |
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| 22:03.41 | _rene_ | diogenes: and then try the steps I told you. it might work. did here... |
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| 22:03.55 | resiak | I can only get pictures from my PTP camera as root. What device do I need to be able to read as non-root? |
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| 22:04.07 | delire | sander: bad memory on the card? |
| 22:04.13 | abrotman | resiak: /dev/resiak |
| 22:04.28 | odb|fidel | anyone an advice or hint for getting webalizer work on all v-host of apache ? |
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| 22:04.40 | fas3r | the driver glide is similary for fglrx no ? |
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| 22:04.59 | rodrigo | how do I get rid of this error: " configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"? |
| 22:05.01 | sander | delire, that might be.. but what if its a driver problem? |
| 22:05.02 | militant | i know this is off topic but has anyone seen this weeks episode of lost? |
| 22:05.07 | delire | resiak: you're mounting it a usb storage device? if so make a camera group, add your self too it and write a line in /etc/fstab for it.. |
| 22:05.13 | abrotman | militant: wrong channel |
| 22:05.15 | sander | delire, I got this card: Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10) |
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| 22:05.22 | militant | abrotman i cant find a channel for it |
| 22:05.27 | abrotman | militant: try efnet |
| 22:05.32 | militant | i did |
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| 22:05.42 | resiak | delire: It's not a usb storage device, hence why I said "PTP camera" |
| 22:05.52 | sander | delire, I got alsactl version 1.0.9a.. I heard it's kinda old.. is that any issue? |
| 22:05.56 | akira | has devfs support been removed from 2.6.15? i can't find it in psuedo fs's |
| 22:05.56 | militant | abrotman did you see it, i just have 1 question |
| 22:06.02 | resiak | abrotman: That's most helpful, thanks |
| 22:06.04 | abrotman | militant: fine .. go wherever you want .. but this channel won't know anything about it .. LEAVE |
| 22:06.18 | abrotman | resiak: might be a SUID binary ? |
| 22:06.20 | delire | resiak: right, ok. |
| 22:06.31 | delire | sander: worth trying an upgrade, yes. |
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| 22:07.13 | abrotman | resiak: or rather . .might need to be |
| 22:07.19 | resiak | abrotman: Possibly. I'll look into it |
| 22:07.20 | m1ke_l | does debian have wireless suport in the installer? |
| 22:07.59 | abrotman | depends on the wifi card |
| 22:08.04 | streuner | m1ke_l: ig would tell you |
| 22:08.12 | streuner | m1ke_l: /msg dpkg ig |
| 22:08.40 | m1ke_l | thanks |
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| 22:08.58 | diogenes | _rene_: didn't work this time either |
| 22:09.30 | _rene_ | then no idea anymore, sorry |
| 22:09.35 | diogenes | i'll try that again tomorrow evening.. |
| 22:09.45 | diogenes | and if it doesn't work .. |
| 22:10.06 | diogenes | i'll reinstall the whole system.. |
| 22:10.18 | diogenes | and if that doesn't work .... |
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| 22:10.38 | diogenes | i'm going to give ubuntu a chance |
| 22:11.24 | diogenes | and if it still doesn't work i'll never touch a computer again .. |
| 22:11.27 | mfrisch | diogenes why donot give Debian a chance? |
| 22:11.45 | nvz | why not give abrotman's mom a chance? |
| 22:11.56 | diogenes | mfrisch: you missed the four previous lines |
| 22:11.57 | mfrisch | nvz damm |
| 22:12.23 | mfrisch | diogenes whats not working |
| 22:12.45 | diogenes | "/dev/hda1 does not exist" |
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| 22:12.59 | GutterPunk | I want to patch a file. So I run the patch but with --dry-run first. There's one line where it says "FAILED. Saving rejects to blabla.rej". But since I did a dry run there's no file in which I can find what went wrong... |
| 22:13.10 | mfrisch | diogenes ok was it there before? |
| 22:13.13 | diogenes | no |
| 22:13.29 | diogenes | it happened after a dist-upgrade |
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| 22:13.51 | diogenes | doesn't boot with 2.6.15 anymore |
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| 22:14.07 | diogenes | s/no/yes it was/ |
| 22:14.08 | foo | How can I set the background to default to black in xterm? |
| 22:14.08 | nvz | GutterPunk: who cares? |
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| 22:14.31 | GutterPunk | nvz, well actually my question is: how can i find out what went wrong? |
| 22:14.39 | GutterPunk | sorry bout that |
| 22:14.53 | nvz | well actually my question was "who cares?" sorry about that. |
| 22:15.19 | nvz | I just dont see how this has anything to do with debian or how I am supposed to know what to tell you |
| 22:15.31 | spuffin | i'm a Debian newb, and basically wanted to use it as a FTP server whilst being able to play around with some HTTP/SQL/etc. I just did the netinst option and chose the file server, http server, mail server packages, but i have no clue how to configure them. Can someone point me to a faq or help page for using the preinstalled software? |
| 22:15.33 | diogenes | but anyway, i'm ready to give up for tonight, will try again tomorrow after work |
| 22:15.50 | nvz | diogenes: yeah save the effort for a cheap hooker |
| 22:15.58 | nvz | did I say that out loud :P |
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| 22:16.43 | dn4 | spuffin, i suggest going to www.google.com/linux and looking up how to info |
| 22:17.01 | dondelelcaro | spuffin: what in particular about them? there are howtos on configuring all of that stuff. |
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| 22:17.13 | xevil | foo: use the "-b black" switch |
| 22:17.23 | spuffin | dondelelcaro: can you point me to a howto dealing directly with what was preinstalled? |
| 22:17.25 | nvz | dondelelcaro: is there any reason why the bots dont speak to me anymore? |
| 22:17.38 | GutterPunk | nvz, I was idling on debian, and it's a question that has something to do with linux. I don't know what *specific* channel would have "about patch" in its topic. and if you don't know, why do you respond in such a way? |
| 22:17.55 | dondelelcaro | nvz: because you were using them to abuse people earlier? |
| 22:18.00 | mfrisch | nvz because you made fun abrotman |
| 22:18.03 | Eulex | I made a script that prints the size of a package and all of its dependencies |
| 22:18.13 | nvz | mfrisch: this has been happening for a LONG time |
| 22:18.21 | Eulex | among other things, it shows that gnome is bigger than kde |
| 22:18.23 | nvz | long before abrotman's momma |
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| 22:18.33 | nvz | dondelelcaro: *shrug* |
| 22:18.56 | nvz | dondelelcaro: apt and dpkg all I can get is "Updating debian files please wait.." if I use a search type command |
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| 22:19.59 | nvz | dondelelcaro: the closest thing I come to abusing anyone with the bots is yinzersmite and I only do that to people who know what it means. I havent called that up in like 2 months or more. |
| 22:20.11 | foo | Can someone explain this? I reinstalled debian and remounted my old home. But when I bring up an xterm and do a ls, it does nothing, I cd ../foo and then do a ls and it works - here http://pastebin.com/563414 - any ideas? |
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| 22:20.53 | raf256 | !yinzersmite nvz |
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| 22:21.10 | relic | :) |
| 22:21.14 | nvz | I had to watch da superbowl somwhow |
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| 22:21.46 | annoia | How do I remove a package with a broken deconfigure-script? |
| 22:21.49 | Andy298 | what CDs do i need to do a complete (minimum install) no net inst etc |
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| 22:21.54 | dannyp | foo: what does ls -a show? |
| 22:22.09 | foo | dannyp: Just a couple hidden files. hmm. |
| 22:22.10 | Eulex | annoia, you'd need to force-remove it, I think |
| 22:22.20 | foo | dannyp: Perms look right. |
| 22:22.21 | raf256 | Andy298: 1 or 2 first CDs should do. 4 for even more software |
| 22:22.33 | raf256 | Andy298: or a DVD |
| 22:22.41 | sobersabre | foo I have an idea.... ls works all the time. |
| 22:22.43 | Andy298 | ok thanks |
| 22:22.47 | Andy298 | net inst will do :) |
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| 22:23.03 | foo | sobersabre: heh. Apparently something else is happening over here. |
| 22:23.18 | annoia | eulex - It still runs the damned script... |
| 22:23.25 | Eulex | annoia, sorry, I'm wrong |
| 22:23.34 | dannyp | foo: what does `find /home ` show? |
| 22:23.45 | dondelelcaro | nvz: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1869 |
| 22:23.48 | sobersabre | foo, maybe |
| 22:23.59 | dondelelcaro | annoia: you fix the script, then remove the package. |
| 22:24.03 | foo | dannyp: hm, that shows everything. |
| 22:24.04 | dannyp | foo: oh, you know what it looks like? I'm guessing you have a symbolic link somewhere that you don't really want |
| 22:24.10 | foo | sobersabre: heh, I can't believe you said that. Bad idea. |
| 22:24.16 | annoia | dondelelcaro - Where's the script? :P |
| 22:24.17 | sobersabre | foo, run: touch bla |
| 22:24.19 | sobersabre | then run ls |
| 22:24.22 | Tortel | hmm, apt is being extremely slow, taking ~3-5 minutes with 100% cpu load to start working |
| 22:24.28 | sobersabre | if you see bla, everything is OK |
| 22:24.32 | Tortel | for apt-get update |
| 22:24.34 | foo | sobersabre: I did that, but it proves nothing. HAHA. |
| 22:24.34 | Tortel | :| |
| 22:24.36 | dondelelcaro | annoia: give us the full and complete output of the dpkg run, then if the script in question is a bash script, add set -x to the top. /var/lib/dpkg/info/foopkg.* |
| 22:24.43 | dannyp | sobersabre: you clearly haven't looked at his pastebin output |
| 22:24.43 | foo | dannyp: hmm, weird. |
| 22:25.17 | dannyp | foo: add this to your pastebin: output of find /home | head -n5 , ls -al /, ls -al /usr, and df |
| 22:25.40 | annoia | dondelelcaro - I'm currently removing all X11-packages, so I'm in a shell... |
| 22:26.11 | annoia | dondelelcaro - Not trivial to give you the full output :P |
| 22:26.19 | dannyp | or mount, doesn't matter (anything that shows devices and mountpoints) |
| 22:26.22 | nvz | dondelelcaro: that was just me making a typo trying to reference factoids.. and calling the bot a name. |
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| 22:26.47 | nvz | I thought we cleared that up like a week ago |
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| 22:27.31 | SteveMyers | hey everyone, can someone please explain to me why Debian allows use of keyboard to the bootloader, but disables the keyboard when it reaches the installer page? |
| 22:27.42 | sobersabre | foo, please run these: ls -l / | grep home; ls -l | /home; |
| 22:27.45 | dondelelcaro | nvz: I'll remove the ignore, but in the future, figure out what the factoid is before attempting to have the bot send multiple messages to someone like that. |
| 22:28.09 | relic | weed? |
| 22:28.14 | sobersabre | foo, I hope this isn't a jailed "virtual" server |
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| 22:28.26 | raf256 | or beer, I dunno what they like :) |
| 22:28.38 | dannyp | relic: cannibas, marijuana, ganja, weed, it's all the same plant |
| 22:28.38 | Tortel | i like both.... |
| 22:28.54 | raf256 | I dont like neither, juts sex for me |
| 22:28.56 | dannyp | well, if I could spell |
| 22:28.58 | raf256 | </offtopic> |
| 22:28.59 | SteveMyers | does anyone here run Debian? |
| 22:29.04 | dondelelcaro | annoia: sure it is; you can output to a file, and then stick the file on some other machine to do the paste. There are also command line clients for that paste site. |
| 22:29.13 | dondelelcaro | SteveMyers: uh... this is #debian. |
| 22:29.15 | raf256 | SteveMyers: no, we all actually use windows vista |
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| 22:29.26 | Tortel | SteveMyers: look where you are |
| 22:29.26 | sobersabre | SteveMyers vindovs wista |
| 22:29.28 | beardy | SteveMyers: Take your hands of the keyboard and take a guess. |
| 22:29.44 | dondelelcaro | SteveMyers: and as far as your question it sounds like you're using a usb keyboard and for some reason the usb module support for your motherboard hasn't been loaded. |
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| 22:30.08 | SteveMyers | Reason why I am asking is because I am running Ubuntu Dapper and the keyboard works on Dapper, debians CD boots to the loader and allows me to use the keyboard but not on the installer page...any reason for that? |
| 22:30.09 | Eleaf | hi |
| 22:30.14 | raf256 | SteveMyers: windows vista is the best! dont use that kiddy OS like debian. Use Real System, Get The Facts! Get some viruse and rootkit from M$ and Sony ^H^H^W^W^W I ment, get greate software from MS and Sony |
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| 22:30.25 | dondelelcaro | SteveMyers: try making sure you've selected install26 at boot, not just install. |
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| 22:30.35 | beardy | raf256: Stop trolling. |
| 22:30.37 | SteveMyers | ok ty dondelelcaro |
| 22:30.48 | Kovecses | well i must say ladies and gentlemen.... the xorg and kde 3.5 backports work very well im very impressed |
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| 22:30.52 | nvz | dondelelcaro: afaik in that situation only thing is channel spam he will /msg me to tell me it doesnt exist not bother the target |
| 22:30.53 | SteveMyers | by the way, I am a developer not a toll |
| 22:30.56 | foo | dannyp: A restart fixed it. |
| 22:30.56 | SteveMyers | troll |
| 22:31.01 | relic | my usb keyboard seems to be fine right now |
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| 22:31.06 | foo | sobersabre: Nah, not jailed. A restart fixed it. |
| 22:31.09 | dagbrown | Erp |
| 22:31.12 | dagbrown | What happened with libXft? |
| 22:31.22 | Eulex | dagbrown, in testing? b0rked |
| 22:31.22 | sobersabre | foo, which filesystem is it running ? |
| 22:31.27 | foo | sobersabre: ext4 |
| 22:31.28 | foo | sobersabre: ext3 |
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| 22:31.33 | sobersabre | foo, is this some kind of RAID ? |
| 22:31.37 | foo | sobersabre: nope |
| 22:31.37 | devazion | raf256, how about cutting down on the kiddie stuff? no more weed and vista please |
| 22:31.40 | sobersabre | foo, is it over NFS ? |
| 22:31.51 | foo | sobersabre: My /home? NO |
| 22:31.51 | dagbrown | Eulex: I gathered that. Anyone know how or why the bork? |
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| 22:31.53 | dondelelcaro | nvz: yes, but it also makes it seem to the target that you're using the bot to abuse them. In any case, please be carefull not to do that. If you can't pull up the factoid on the first shot, just tell the person the answer. |
| 22:32.01 | raf256 | weed is not like windows vista, the first one works as supposed to |
| 22:32.04 | foo | sobersabre: *No. My bad |
| 22:32.17 | nvz | dondelelcaro: ok |
| 22:32.21 | Eulex | dagbrown, I don't know. you could try getting an older package from http://snapshot.debian.net |
| 22:32.38 | dagbrown | Aha! There's a good idea. |
| 22:32.44 | relic | an |
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| 22:33.09 | relic | idea |
| 22:33.11 | sobersabre | guys. quota q. currenty I use the quota, on per user basis, and there's a cron job which runs daily quotacheck tool. |
| 22:33.14 | relic | ? |
| 22:33.25 | Eulex | dagbrown, btw, there are already multiple bugs filed for it. |
| 22:33.29 | sobersabre | this introduces several minutes that data over the disk is read-only. |
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| 22:34.11 | sobersabre | this is a RAID partition, served via NFS as home directory for many users. They don't like the writeability downtime. |
| 22:34.18 | sobersabre | what can be done ? |
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| 22:34.34 | dondelelcaro | sobersabre: use the -m option to quotacheck |
| 22:34.37 | dagbrown | Eulex: Kind of hard to see the bug database when my web browser doesn't go :) |
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| 22:35.06 | dondelelcaro | sobersabre: you probably also want it to make a backup of the quota file too |
| 22:35.27 | Eulex | dagbrown, there's always links2 and elinks |
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| 22:36.04 | dagbrown | Eulex: Or "ask on IRC", and now my system is working again, so thank you. |
| 22:36.33 | sobersabre | dondelelcaro ... is it safe ?! I mean from the man page...I understand the fs will be left rw, but, "make sure nobody writes during the scan" :) |
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| 22:37.02 | foo | The DISPLAY variable is not set. You should either login to as root or use the command "su" with no flags, to make sure setup has an X display to use. - any ideas on this? |
| 22:37.04 | Eulex | dagbrown, hehe, yw :) |
| 22:37.12 | Seven_Six_Two | if I want my box to mount my friend's nfs exports as soon as they become available(my pc is always on, his isn't) is there a way to do that besides a startup script on his pc that will ssh into mine, mount his exports and then log out again? |
| 22:37.26 | dondelelcaro | sobersabre: well, those are your choices. You either make it ro, and have people complain, or you leave it rw, and possibly end up with a quota file that's not exactly right. |
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| 22:38.07 | sobersabre | dondelelcaro any real solutions to that problem ? some kind of proprietary NAS ? |
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| 22:40.19 | sobersabre | dondelelcaro ...is there any other quota mechanizm, one that can keep quota metadata in sync each write() ? |
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| 22:40.39 | dli | apt-get install firefox, E: Package firefox has no installation candidate |
| 22:40.54 | sobersabre | dli apt-cache search firefox |
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| 22:41.11 | dondelelcaro | sobersabre: not to my knowledge; truthfully, I haven't ever had a problem with quotacheck... |
| 22:41.35 | dli | sobersabre: dpkg says, firefox for 1.5 |
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| 22:42.40 | sobersabre | dondelelcaro: 'tis a 300GB RAID. |
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| 22:42.49 | sobersabre | it takes several minutes to be scanned. |
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| 22:43.10 | stefan__ | how can I see the text that ran during startup of my system? (to see the errors etc) |
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| 22:43.28 | Tortel | arg, apt takes 100% of my CPU and a few minutes to load..... |
| 22:43.33 | sobersabre | and this is annoying to wait to be able to write into a log file on an NFS... |
| 22:43.33 | dli | is firefox-1.5 in testing? |
| 22:43.35 | Tortel | and its really annoying me |
| 22:43.40 | sobersabre | stefan__ dmesg |
| 22:43.45 | kc5cqm | do network routes have to be manually added if I have a static IP set in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 22:43.47 | broomy | any good ANSI/ASCII graphic editor on apt-get? |
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| 22:43.58 | kc5cqm | and if so, is there a file they go in? |
| 22:44.14 | kc5cqm | I can ssh into the box, but from the box, I can't get out. |
| 22:44.16 | sobersabre | broomy which non graphic editor do you like ? |
| 22:44.34 | broomy | sobersabre, many |
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| 22:45.11 | broomy | but there is some speciall ansi/ascii editors that ease the making of ascii graphics |
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| 22:46.15 | dli | packages.debian.org is down at the moment due to performance issues. |
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| 22:46.20 | kc5cqm | is there a static file I can add permanent routs to in debian? |
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| 22:46.26 | kc5cqm | routes |
| 22:46.27 | sobersabre | ascii graphics !? I see. I think GIMP can do this for you - it can output in "ASCII art", I think. |
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| 22:46.54 | broomy | sobersabre, ok ill check it out |
| 22:47.06 | sobersabre | GIMP is like photoshop |
| 22:47.07 | endeavormac | which file determines how network interfaces are configured when the machine boots up? |
| 22:47.30 | sobersabre | broomy check that I am correct, before downloading it. |
| 22:47.33 | jelly-ho | endeavormac: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:47.39 | endeavormac | thanks |
| 22:47.48 | sylvisj | I fucking hate windows |
| 22:47.56 | naphex | After updating hal (on testing), my cdrom drive never stops spinning if a CD is in the drive. The only way to stop it (short of ejecting the CD) is to invoke-rc.d dbus stop. How can I solve that? |
| 22:47.59 | jelly-ho | endeavormac: there's also a man interfaces |
| 22:47.59 | kc5cqm | jelly-ho, can you stick default routes in there too? |
| 22:48.03 | sylvisj | I'm having to set up a windows box for my brother... it's hanging on normal boot, but does fine on safe mode. |
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| 22:48.13 | Andy298 | how can i create a new user? |
| 22:48.13 | sylvisj | Windows fucking blows dogs logs |
| 22:48.18 | sylvisj | adduser |
| 22:48.19 | broomy | sobersabre, already have the gimp, but thanks for caryng :D |
| 22:48.25 | m1ke_l | useradd |
| 22:48.44 | jelly-ho | kc5cqm: yup. if a "gateway" option is specified for an interface, it's added as a default gateway. |
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| 22:49.07 | sandman_es | hi i need some help. If its possible in spanish |
| 22:49.15 | streuner | !es |
| 22:49.15 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 22:49.25 | broomy | sylvisj, why do you hate windows [TM] |
| 22:49.34 | Seven_Six_Two | winblows |
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| 22:49.59 | dn4 | windows forgot opensource |
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| 22:50.09 | sylvisj | Windows does blow. |
| 22:50.14 | sylvisj | Fucking hugeass piece of shit |
| 22:50.14 | stefan__ | windows forgot apt-get |
| 22:50.18 | blackopus | Windoze is very blowted |
| 22:50.23 | peterS | *sigh*. this channel isn't about Windows. please take it elsewhere. |
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| 22:50.29 | sylvisj | Windows forgot to enable BOOTING |
| 22:50.34 | broomy | lol |
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| 22:50.47 | epsilon | ACK, this channel is about wine |
| 22:51.07 | blackopus | Um, I thought it was about Debian |
| 22:51.14 | sylvisj | Yeah, read $TOPIC |
| 22:51.19 | broomy | what you got to love windows a little bit :D it has opensource code in it that they stole |
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| 22:51.21 | mohkohn | If I am running a Pentium 4 which version of Mplayer should I download? |
| 22:51.23 | Seven_Six_Two | sylvisj: call the support line. |
| 22:51.27 | blackopus | Hence the name "#debian" |
| 22:51.30 | syke | hi |
| 22:51.32 | peterS | broomy: enough. this channel isn't about Windows. |
| 22:51.34 | stefan__ | $topic |
| 22:51.36 | broomy | sorry |
| 22:51.36 | m1ke_l | hi syke |
| 22:51.37 | signius | this is a new install today and i just done uptime and its saying 4 users thee is only 1 normal user and root setup so why it listing 4 users |
| 22:51.40 | Seven_Six_Two | mohkohn: 686 |
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| 22:51.43 | syke | how do I apt upgrade a specific package rather than all packages? |
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| 22:51.48 | broomy | peterS, ok chill |
| 22:51.51 | sylvisj | Seven_Six_Two:I have better uses for my phone battery |
| 22:51.59 | signius | 1 + 1 = 2 last i knew |
| 22:51.59 | m1ke_l | apt-get install package |
| 22:52.15 | peterS | man, it really must be Sunday |
| 22:52.20 | mohkohn | Seven_Six_Two, apt-cache search only shows 586 and something called K6 |
| 22:52.32 | Andy298 | how can i change the name of my machine |
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| 22:52.37 | sylvisj | K6 = early athlon |
| 22:52.38 | streuner | peterS: only 8 minutes in europe ;-) |
| 22:52.45 | peterS | Andy298: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts, then run 'hostname your-new-name' |
| 22:52.45 | m1ke_l | hostname newname |
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| 22:53.08 | sylvisj | Brb, gonna try a repair install... god I wish my brother had a decent enough IQ to learn linux |
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| 22:53.12 | peterS | mohkohn: mplayer isn't even in debian, so your sources.list must be pointing somewhere else as well |
| 22:53.16 | Andy298 | can i call the machine domain.com |
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| 22:53.20 | kc5cqm | Andy298, /sbin/hostname |
| 22:53.24 | peterS | mohkohn: if it's using the ftp.nerim.net site, it should have a -686 package |
| 22:53.26 | signius | K6 is an older AMD processor around about the same time and penitum I & IIs |
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| 22:53.47 | kc5cqm | ah, I fondly rememember my old k6-266 |
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| 22:53.55 | mohkohn | if I apt-get mozilla mplayer will it autmagically choose the right one. |
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| 22:54.29 | Seven_Six_Two | mohkohn: you could build the newest from the mplayerhq site |
| 22:54.32 | Andy298 | how can i remove /delete a user :) |
| 22:54.39 | signius | and the cyrix cpus also |
| 22:54.43 | m1ke_l | userdel username |
| 22:54.47 | streuner | Andy298: userdel |
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| 22:55.03 | m1ke_l | does debian use differenet repo's based on arch? |
| 22:55.11 | signius | yes |
| 22:55.13 | m1ke_l | im getting an itanium machine next week.... |
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| 22:55.22 | signius | flash git |
| 22:55.40 | peterS | m1ke_l: no, same repository, it'll just be looking for the ia64 packages instead of the i386 ones |
| 22:55.47 | m1ke_l | how does it know which arch to use then. |
| 22:55.53 | m1ke_l | ? |
| 22:56.02 | peterS | m1ke_l: you have to download the correct installer CD image, but after that it just knows |
| 22:56.05 | fatbrain | When booting debian-installtion image (loadlin vmlinuz root= ??) I get an error message stating I have to vfs:cannot open root device "hda1" please append a correct "root=" boot option. |
| 22:56.11 | mohkohn | PeterS I have the nerim net...but etch...is it only in sid perhaps. Thanks Seven_Six_Two but I prefer to apt-get unless there is no other way |
| 22:56.15 | m1ke_l | peterS: thanks. |
| 22:57.08 | peterS | mohkohn: browsing just now through ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/m/mplayer/, I see there are -686 packages for one version of mplayer but not for other versions. I don't know what's up with that. |
| 22:57.41 | peterS | mohkohn: anyway, it doesn't matter all that much. the -586 package may use a bit more CPU, but you have plenty of CPU, as long as you're not trying to watch a movie and play a FPS game at the same time |
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| 22:58.10 | mohkohn | thanks peterS |
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| 22:58.28 | mohkohn | Got to crash. TTFN |
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| 22:58.55 | Andy298 | i've put some drive details in fstab - to mount it... how do i activate it? |
| 22:59.07 | dondelelcaro | Andy298: mount -a |
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| 23:00.46 | dabreegster | Hey. I'm doing an upgrade of packages on testing and one of the recent ones was xlibmesa-gl. Now OpenGL on X doesn't work properly. glxinfo|grep direct says no, when it used to say yes. I have the ATI Rage 128 card. Everything used to work. What should I do? |
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| 23:03.59 | Skaag | anyone knows how to take a live CD ISO and stick it onto an external USB drive instead? (for booting from) |
| 23:04.10 | Eulex | dabreegster, check your X log |
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| 23:04.25 | peterS | Skaag: you can't do that, in general. the provider of the live CD may have made a procedure available. |
| 23:04.34 | dabreegster | Eulex: Alright, but I think I need to upgrade libgl1-mesa-dri and related |
| 23:04.49 | Skaag | peters: So boot from the livecd, then install it onto that drive..? |
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| 23:05.17 | peterS | Skaag: Debian doesn't have a live CD, so I don't know what live CD you are talking about. the procedure would vary between different ones |
| 23:05.27 | Skaag | ok thanks |
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| 23:06.50 | Skaag | peterS: http://mklivecd.sourceforge.net/ |
| 23:06.56 | Seven_Six_Two | knoppix is like debian live |
| 23:06.58 | Skaag | Debian Live CD |
| 23:07.02 | Skaag | anyway never mind |
| 23:07.11 | Skaag | i'll play around with the stuff, it's fun anyway ;) |
| 23:07.22 | peterS | Seven_Six_Two: it's also like something other than debian live. and it certainly isn't the only live CD which uses debian as a base |
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| 23:07.38 | dabreegster | Where are the X.org logs located? I only see old Xfree86 logs in /var/log |
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| 23:07.44 | Seven_Six_Two | no, but highly popular and well documented |
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| 23:08.07 | peterS | Skaag: yeah, the boot procedure for a CD, or for a USB disk, are quite different. so your live CD provider would have to explicitly support booting from a disk, or I doubt you can get it to work |
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| 23:08.26 | Skaag | yes I understand |
| 23:08.40 | Eulex | dabreegster, /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 23:09.00 | Skaag | i'll create an ext2 partition on that usb drive and make it bootable, then debootstrap it, and see what happens... ;-) |
| 23:09.10 | dabreegster | Eulex: Hmm, maybe I don't have xorg. Odd, I could've sworn that I did. |
| 23:09.15 | peterS | Skaag: *nod* |
| 23:09.19 | Seven_Six_Two | http://rz-obrian.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/knoppix-usb/ |
| 23:09.52 | Skaag | thanks Seven_Six_Two |
| 23:09.52 | Eulex | dabreegster, if you're running stable you won't have xorg if you don't get backports for it. |
| 23:09.56 | Skaag | that looks nice |
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| 23:10.07 | dabreegster | Eulex: Nah, I'm on etch |
| 23:10.53 | Eulex | dabreegster, hrm. then you haven't run a complete dist-upgrade. apt-cache policy xserver-xorg, btw? |
| 23:10.55 | BLAFD | hey |
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| 23:10.59 | BLAFD | what package has unrar? |
| 23:11.19 | dabreegster | Eulex: I've never done a dist-upgrade. Hangon. |
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| 23:11.37 | streuner | !tell BLAFD about search |
| 23:11.38 | dabreegster | Eulex: No, it's not installed. Odd. |
| 23:11.51 | annoia | blafd - unrar |
| 23:11.52 | annoia | :) |
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| 23:12.15 | Seven_Six_Two | BLAFD: unrar-nonfree |
| 23:12.18 | dabreegster | Eulex: I presume xfree86-common being upgraded and xserver-xfree86 being removed is correct. |
| 23:12.20 | peterS | BLAFD: there are two packages, 'unrar' and 'unrar-free' - the former is in the non-free section but works a lot better than unrar-free does |
| 23:12.21 | Seven_Six_Two | or something like that |
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| 23:12.46 | Eulex | dabreegster, it is |
| 23:13.00 | dabreegster | Eulex: OK, thanks |
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| 23:13.09 | Eulex | dabreegster, yw :) |
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| 23:13.26 | BLAFD | hn |
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| 23:14.23 | BLAFD | peters doign apt-get install unrar, sais its obsolete |
| 23:14.33 | BLAFD | unrar-free isnt a know package |
| 23:15.04 | peterS | BLAFD: the package names may have changed between stable and unstable. I suggest you dig around on pdo.debian.net to confirm this |
| 23:15.05 | Eulex | !non-free |
| 23:15.05 | dpkg | i heard non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html |
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| 23:16.06 | Eulex | BLAFD, unrar-free is only in unstable. |
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| 23:17.25 | streuner | !info rar sarge |
| 23:17.32 | dpkg | rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 419 kB |
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| 23:17.56 | peterS | !find unrar sarge |
| 23:17.58 | dpkg | unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.2-0.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 216 kB |
| 23:18.06 | streuner | well, 'rar e foo.rar' would do the same... |
| 23:18.09 | Sonny | how do I know if if have testing or unstable? |
| 23:18.17 | streuner | What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 23:18.24 | bancus | I have the following situation: an AMD64 system ready for an OS with no video at all (I thought I had a spare PCI video card laying around for installation, it's missing). It's possible that the nforce4 gigabit eth ship supports PXE, but I don't know if the AMD64 port can be installed that way ATM. A livecd is also a possibility, but I'd really like to be able to use the installer. Any ideas? |
| 23:18.37 | bancus | s/ship/chip/ |
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| 23:18.44 | streuner | Sonny: sources.list would tell you and/or libc6 |
| 23:19.27 | peterS | bancus: I'm not sure, but I *thought* I heard that the nforce4 ethernet chip was not yet supported |
| 23:20.10 | Sonny | streuner, in my sources I know that it's pointing to "testing" tell be about the other way |
| 23:20.37 | peterS | bancus: anyway I doubt you can install without video, unless your BIOS happens to support a serial console. most PC-class machines don't. |
| 23:20.46 | acktvst | :'( |
| 23:20.56 | acktvst | sucked TAB buttom |
| 23:20.57 | bancus | peterS: I know earlier nforce ethernets had issues, but I thought nforce4 was usable. |
| 23:21.01 | bancus | peterS: :/ |
| 23:21.18 | acktvst | sonny, good rootkit |
| 23:21.22 | bancus | So I couldn't, for instance, boot with a livecd that supports ssh and ssh in? |
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| 23:21.42 | rambo3 | &msg dpkg ati |
| 23:21.42 | Sonny | acktvst, excuse me? |
| 23:21.48 | acktvst | nothing |
| 23:21.48 | peterS | bancus: well, I should amend that, it may be possible to get the installer up and running by typing blind, and use a serial console for the installer itself |
| 23:22.18 | peterS | bancus: as for sshing in, the debian installer doesn't currently support that. you may be able to do *something* with a live CD, but what the procedure would be is more than I can say |
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| 23:22.38 | Andy298 | how do i change where root mail is sent to? |
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| 23:22.52 | peterS | Andy298: edit /etc/aliases then run 'newaliases' |
| 23:22.58 | magnus | the debian install cd should include a little more tools |
| 23:23.14 | peterS | magnus: such as what? |
| 23:23.20 | magnus | I had great troubles editing a textfile |
| 23:23.31 | magnus | needed to alter the pcmcia config file to get my network card to work |
| 23:23.32 | I-OLaaa | hi!!! |
| 23:23.34 | streuner | nano is great |
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| 23:23.42 | magnus | i had to pipe stuff here and there |
| 23:23.47 | streuner | you prolly never used 'ae' ;-) |
| 23:23.52 | peterS | magnus: it comes with nano, which is quite functional, even if we don't like it too much |
| 23:23.55 | magnus | vi etc is nightmare :) |
| 23:24.01 | magnus | if you enter it you are dead and must reboot ;) |
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| 23:24.16 | nvz | heh |
| 23:24.23 | nvz | or type [Esc] :q |
| 23:24.32 | wantoch | hello |
| 23:24.34 | nvz | speaking of piping stuff.. |
| 23:24.34 | wantoch | how can I add a default gateway ? |
| 23:24.40 | magnus | ah ok, must check out nano, but if thats included and adequate for editing files, then I guess I cant think of any more tools to be included |
| 23:24.42 | wantoch | i've used route but i must add manually at every boot |
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| 23:24.53 | nvz | magnus: try mped |
| 23:24.59 | streuner | wantoch: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 23:25.01 | silent_al | !beer nvz |
| 23:25.05 | akira | anybody got a convert to udev howto? |
| 23:25.06 | BLAFD | gr |
| 23:25.09 | endeavormac | i'm having trouble getting a new installation of debian to resolve DNS |
| 23:25.10 | peterS | wantoch: I suggest adding a line to /etc/network/interfaces, under the correct interface name, 'up route ....' |
| 23:25.11 | nvz | I already got beer |
| 23:25.13 | BLAFD | i put unstable in my sources |
| 23:25.14 | magnus | nvz: thanks for the tip! |
| 23:25.18 | streuner | wantoch: and read /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/ |
| 23:25.22 | peterS | wantoch: the 'up' word means 'execute this when the interface has come up' |
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| 23:25.25 | BLAFD | but it complains it needs libc6 >= 2.3.5 |
| 23:25.37 | BLAFD | but the one im using is 2.3.2 |
| 23:25.39 | dondelelcaro | magnus: vi is actually fairly simple to do most basic tasks in... you should really learn how to open a file, edit it, and save it in both vi and emacs. |
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| 23:25.58 | peterS | BLAFD: we don't suggest using packages from unstable if your system is based on stable. too much trouble. |
| 23:26.11 | BLAFD | contrib then? |
| 23:26.23 | peterS | BLAFD: 'rar' and 'unrar' both live in non-free, on debian stable |
| 23:26.29 | ringo999 | hi. those of you using xfce, which displa manager do you use? |
| 23:26.40 | peterS | BLAFD: you just have to add ' non-free' to the stable line that ends in 'main', in your sources.list |
| 23:26.40 | BLAFD | ah |
| 23:26.51 | nvz | ringo999: what does it matter? |
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| 23:26.58 | dannyp | dondelelcaro: why in emacs? |
| 23:27.10 | dannyp | dondelelcaro: I was forced to use xemacs once, for a class. absolutely hated it. |
| 23:27.10 | ringo999 | nvz: it doesnt really, im just wondering which one is good... |
| 23:27.13 | nvz | ringo999: your choices are pretty much KDM, GDM, XDM, WDM.. pcik one |
| 23:27.20 | nvz | ringo999: tey are all good |
| 23:27.24 | dongle | Hello all |
| 23:27.36 | dongle | I have a routing question |
| 23:27.38 | peterS | dannyp: it's still useful to know how to do basic editing in it, in case you're faced with a system where vi isn't usable. (not that this is common.) |
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| 23:27.48 | dannyp | peterS: I don't recall ever being on a machine that had emacs but not vi |
| 23:27.54 | magnus | dondelelcaro: I only know emacs and programs that work like it, such as jed |
| 23:27.58 | ringo999 | nvz: mmm...and which one would be standard with xfce? just plain xdm? |
| 23:28.00 | magnus | i use jed for everything :) |
| 23:28.04 | dongle | I set ipforward in /network options to yes |
| 23:28.05 | magnus | (coding, configuring, etc) |
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| 23:28.23 | peterS | magnus: well, I'm not on the debian-installer team, but I doubt they are planning to add emacs to the initial ramdisk |
| 23:28.24 | dongle | but when I reboot the box this entry takes no effect |
| 23:28.26 | dannyp | peterS: and when I don't have vi, ed is usually available, which I've generally found to be sufficient for getting vi back |
| 23:28.27 | I-OLaaa | ïð³âåò |
| 23:28.31 | dongle | can someone help? |
| 23:28.40 | I-OLaaa | ÷òî íîâîãøî? |
| 23:28.40 | magnus | peterS: hehe yeah they should not do that :) too big |
| 23:28.41 | dannyp | and yeah, I'd rather use ed than learn emacs |
| 23:28.44 | endeavormac | in /etc/resolv.conf i have an entry "namerserver <IP>" which points to a valid DNS server from my ISP |
| 23:28.49 | Sonny | Hi,,, I have 2 soundcards the intel's and a audigy, I've configured the audigy with alsaconf, but when I reboot the default souncard is the intel, why? |
| 23:28.53 | nvz | ringo999: xfce doesnt have one. maybe gdm since it has both stardard and graphical greeter and is gtk |
| 23:28.54 | silent_al | I-OLaaa change your charset |
| 23:29.02 | magnus | peterS: but maybe jed? Or nano is perhaps sufficient so then it doesnt matter. |
| 23:29.03 | endeavormac | yet linux won't resolve dns? |
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| 23:29.21 | ringo999 | nvz: ok, cool |
| 23:29.25 | magnus | maybe a helpfile or something that can tell the installer which basic tools are avaliable "editor: XXX" etc |
| 23:29.42 | dabreegster | This is really an #apache question, but since it's simple... A friend is grabbing a file off my server right now. It doesn't show up in /var/log/apache/access.log and won't until it's finished, I think. apachetop reads off that file, so it displays nothing. But how can I see how much it's sent so far and at what speed? |
| 23:29.44 | magnus | (by "the installer" I meant the user that is using the installation program :) |
| 23:29.47 | peterS | Sonny: bad interactions with the hardware autodetection, I suppose. you can try putting the 'snd-emu10k1' module in /etc/modules so it will load before anything else does |
| 23:30.00 | dondelelcaro | magnus: well, you should probably larn some more ones... since nvi is pretty much what you're going to find on systems with very little installed. |
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| 23:30.21 | I-OLaaa | ëþä³ ïîìîã³òå ó íàñ ñåòü ðàçîáðàë³ ïð³ê³íüòå |
| 23:30.25 | I-OLaaa | ïåñïðåäåë |
| 23:30.28 | I-OLaaa | ÷òî äåëàòü |
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| 23:30.32 | dabreegster | magnus: Basic vi editing is dead easy |
| 23:30.43 | Eulex | I-OLaaa, english please |
| 23:30.55 | peterS | magnus: weird - I thought that when you ran a shell from debian-installer it *did* tell you what editor is available, in a little paragraph of text before giving you the root prompt |
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| 23:31.06 | silent_al | I-OLaaa.... character set ,dude, change it |
| 23:31.10 | signius | has anyone had any problems with sound working in gnome but not in kisemt |
| 23:31.14 | I-OLaaa | îê |
| 23:31.20 | signius | I have festival installed and play and they are located where kismet is looking for them but i dont get any sound out of kismet yet i do if i play a file in totem |
| 23:31.24 | dabreegster | signius: Gnome? Probably an esd problem |
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| 23:31.39 | peterS | dondelelcaro: can you administer a level one lart on I-OLaaa? |
| 23:31.39 | prock | what's the linux way to view a file in hexidecimal format? |
| 23:31.49 | BLAFD | there we gi |
| 23:31.50 | peterS | prock: od -tx1 |
| 23:32.01 | silent_al | !vodka Eulex |
| 23:32.01 | signius | yeah your probably right i think i had the same problem when i was using ubuntu before but remember how i solved it |
| 23:32.02 | BLAFD | go* had to do a apt-get update |
| 23:32.03 | BLAFD | ;) |
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| 23:32.05 | peterS | prock: or you can install various other packages that can do the same |
| 23:32.05 | dabreegster | peterS: hexcat? |
| 23:32.20 | rambo3 | i just patched linux-kernel 2.6.15-1-686-smp with bootsplash and it won´ t start x.org server .using debian testing |
| 23:32.31 | prock | peterS: thanks that's exactly what I was looking for. :) |
| 23:32.34 | Eulex | silent_al, hehe. and my guess is that he's russian, I've seen that strange character encoding before :) |
| 23:32.38 | dondelelcaro | peterS: it looks to have shut up for the time being... |
| 23:32.43 | peterS | prock: xxd from the vim package is also not bad |
| 23:32.46 | Eulex | !ru |
| 23:32.46 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
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| 23:33.23 | dondelelcaro | horray for total uselessness |
| 23:33.29 | peterS | thanks |
| 23:33.40 | Eulex | haha, first thought it read openlamer.com :) |
| 23:33.44 | streuner | Mo Feb 20 00:33:43 CET 2006 |
| 23:33.46 | Andy298 | if i do cp /var/www will that be the www folder or just the contents? |
| 23:33.51 | silent_al | hehe "troll elsewhere" |
| 23:33.53 | rambo3 | where do i check xorg errors? |
| 23:33.58 | streuner | sunday is over, so what the fuck? ;-) |
| 23:34.07 | prock | peterS: even better, thanks :) |
| 23:34.12 | dondelelcaro | streuner: it's still sunday in timezones that actually matter. ;-) |
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| 23:34.33 | Eulex | rambo3, stable or testing/unstable? |
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| 23:34.41 | rambo3 | testing |
| 23:34.45 | bbrazil | Andy298: it should give an error |
| 23:34.46 | epsilon | Andy298: if you want to copy sbdir, use cp -a |
| 23:35.10 | Eulex | rambo3, /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:35.14 | dabreegster | epsilon: You mean -r? |
| 23:35.40 | Eulex | rambo3, ah, shouldn't have needed to ask, you said xorg |
| 23:35.59 | dabreegster | epsilon: Ack, -R |
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| 23:36.15 | Sonny | peterS, how do I put the "snd-emuk10k12" in the etc/modules ? just writing or there's another method? |
| 23:37.06 | peterS | Sonny: that file has instructions in it |
| 23:37.06 | epsilon | dabreegster: -a is more safe cause of symbolic link |
| 23:37.06 | peterS | Sonny: make sure you get the right module name - I think the audigy uses snd-emu10k1 but possibly not |
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| 23:37.07 | dabreegster | epsilon: Ah |
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| 23:37.24 | Sonny | peterS, doing "lsmod" I see the module up |
| 23:37.24 | Leptir | someone with ee_mipsel.deb R5900 |
| 23:37.28 | peritus | is there an easy way to get the original firefox icon instead of the debian globe? |
| 23:37.32 | levander | Somebody can tell me how to re-generate /etc/motd, I just accidentally deleted it. |
| 23:37.49 | dannyp | levander: making your own isn't acceptable? |
| 23:38.08 | streuner | peritus: as icon? /usr/share/pixmaps/ has a bunch of those |
| 23:38.09 | Sonny | peterS, snd_emou10k1... alsaconf is not supossed to add this module to the modules file?¿ |
| 23:38.09 | dabreegster | levander: I think it's made on every bootup. Might be in /etc/init.d somewhere |
| 23:38.19 | levander | dannyp: i could i guess |
| 23:38.25 | levander | dabreegster: thanks, i'll look |
| 23:38.26 | peterS | Sonny: no, it uses a different mechanism, it doesn't just add things to /etc/modules |
| 23:38.38 | peterS | Sonny: also, I'm a little worried about you, so far you've misspelled snd-emu10k1 two different ways |
| 23:38.38 | dannyp | dabreegster: there's no way it's made on every bootup, how would changes persist? |
| 23:38.48 | peterS | Sonny: be careful to spell it correctly when adding it to the file |
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| 23:38.55 | dabreegster | levander: part of it is uname -a |
| 23:38.59 | levander | dabreegster: yeah, it's in bootmisc, thanks |
| 23:39.05 | Eulex | dannyp, maybe they md5 it and don't change it if the user has changed it? |
| 23:39.09 | Leptir | to levander - Resrart machine :) I think /etc/init/rc.d part |
| 23:39.12 | dabreegster | dannyp: No clue |
| 23:39.14 | levander | dabreegster: yeah, i'll just do 'uname -a > /etc/motd' for now |
| 23:39.15 | peterS | Sonny: (snd-emu10k1 and snd_emu10k1 are the same thing, but you added other letters in there too) |
| 23:39.35 | dabreegster | levander: I can paste the copyright message in a PM if you like |
| 23:40.05 | le_neko | hi |
| 23:40.12 | Sonny | peterS, yeah it's snd_emu10k1 |
| 23:40.27 | le_neko | who succeed to compile the mga-vid-source module ? |
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| 23:41.00 | dannyp | okay, both freebsd and debian will modify the top line of /etc/motd on boot |
| 23:41.09 | dannyp | it's not "regenerating" the file |
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| 23:41.26 | dabreegster | Oh. |
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| 23:41.28 | xam | dannyp: but you can switch that off ;) |
| 23:41.30 | dannyp | well, I suppose that's interpretation |
| 23:41.55 | Sonny | peterS, do you know why even if my volumes are high my soundcard doesnt play any sound? |
| 23:42.21 | peterS | Sonny: I believe ALSA drivers generally initialise the mixer in 'muted' mode. you probably have to turn off the muted flag in your mixer app |
| 23:42.24 | le_neko | module-assistant tells me that dh_testdir is missing |
| 23:42.26 | dannyp | yep, if EDITMOTD isn't set to no, it delets the first line and replaces it with uname -a (uname -a > $MOTD.tmp ; sed 1d $MOTD >> $MOTD.tmp ; mv $MOTD.tmp $MOTD) |
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| 23:42.52 | le_neko | in which package i could found dh_testdir ? |
| 23:42.52 | Sonny | peterS, I did |
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| 23:43.08 | peterS | Sonny: then make sure your speakers are plugged into the right sound card? I dunno, it should work |
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| 23:43.14 | _rene__ | le_neko: use apt-file. and look yourself. it's obvious. |
| 23:43.14 | le_neko | ho |
| 23:43.16 | le_neko | sonny |
| 23:43.27 | le_neko | okey thanks rene |
| 23:43.29 | _rene__ | le_neko: and if you try to build a package install its build-depends.. |
| 23:43.54 | cindy | how do i find the date i install debian |
| 23:43.56 | le_neko | sonny you have problem with having volume with your sb LIVE ? |
| 23:44.22 | Leptir | /var/log/install.log :) |
| 23:44.23 | Sonny | le_neko: yeah I have an audigy 2 zs |
| 23:44.27 | le_neko | i had same problem, i fix it with put the surround LFE WAV to the max |
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| 23:44.46 | le_neko | it seems that the main volume is useless for some LIVE |
| 23:44.59 | peterS | Leptir: oh - did you check http://pdo.debian.net/ee ? follow a couple links, download _mipsel.deb package |
| 23:45.16 | Leptir | txn |
| 23:45.30 | dabreegster | cindy: Or it might be in /var/log/base-config.log* maybe. I don't have a install.log for some reason |
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| 23:45.39 | le_neko | oh sorry mistake |
| 23:45.45 | le_neko | it is Wave Surround |
| 23:45.56 | Sonny | le_neko: let me try.... I'll put everything to the max |
| 23:46.00 | le_neko | no |
| 23:46.01 | le_neko | noooo |
| 23:46.04 | le_neko | not do that |
| 23:46.07 | cindy | cool im looking dabreegster |
| 23:46.07 | bsims | I am looking for a curses style pdf reader for console use... any ideas? |
| 23:46.09 | Sonny | le_neko: why not? |
| 23:46.12 | le_neko | for some reason |
| 23:46.19 | rambo3 | how can i see here why xorg faild http://channels.debian.net/paste/1870 ? |
| 23:46.31 | dabreegster | cindy: Actually, don't cat the first. It's a recreation of the entire thing. Try less; it won't interpet the ANSI codes |
| 23:46.32 | le_neko | there is some sliders that will make the volume to 0 |
| 23:46.48 | peterS | bsims: there is pdftotext in the xpdf-utils package |
| 23:47.11 | bsims | peterS: hrm not quite what I am looking for... I intend to use this to read |
| 23:47.18 | bsims | er pdfs over ssh |
| 23:47.20 | peterS | bsims: it's the only thing I know of |
| 23:47.32 | peterS | bsims: pdftotext foo.pdf - | less |
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| 23:47.51 | le_neko | _rene_ |
| 23:48.00 | le_neko | what is this apt-file you had talk about |
| 23:48.04 | cindy | that was it dabreegster |
| 23:48.05 | le_neko | never found this |
| 23:48.07 | dabreegster | cindy: K |
| 23:48.12 | peterS | bsims: the manpage gives some useful options like -layout |
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| 23:48.15 | _rene_ | it's a package/program |
| 23:48.18 | bsims | peterS: hrm that could work well but I'd like to bookmark <g> I suppose I could convert it to html and use links |
| 23:48.21 | le_neko | okey |
| 23:48.36 | le_neko | dope |
| 23:48.41 | le_neko | thanks a lot |
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| 23:48.51 | dabreegster | One terminal is going odd, only using about half the lines. How do I reset it? stty rows 29 doesn't work. It's a kernel thing I think, but it's only on one screen window |
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| 23:49.06 | peterS | dabreegster: sometimes 'resize' will do it |
| 23:49.08 | peterS | dabreegster: sometimes not |
| 23:49.13 | dabreegster | peterS: k |
| 23:49.18 | Mark` | how 'lightweight' can i make debian |
| 23:49.26 | Sonny | le_neko: nothing |
| 23:49.32 | le_neko | okey |
| 23:49.33 | bsims | Mark`: pretty darn lightweight why |
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| 23:49.43 | Sonny | le_neko: I cant hear anything |
| 23:49.44 | Mark` | well ive got a k6-2 box that ive been letting my brother use |
| 23:49.45 | le_neko | so i think you have test one by one slidres |
| 23:49.53 | dabreegster | peterS: that did it, thanks |
| 23:49.58 | Eulex | Mark`, cpu, ram, hdd? |
| 23:49.59 | Mark` | he cant stop getting spyware, so i wanted to put a flavor of linux on it |
| 23:50.05 | dabreegster | Mark`: Depends. Are you comfortable using the console? |
| 23:50.07 | Mark` | k6-2 192mb 80gb |
| 23:50.11 | Sonny | le_neko: everything is almost in the max |
| 23:50.11 | Mark` | yea im used to gentoo tbh |
| 23:50.15 | le_neko | it seems that each model of live have his own main controller for general volume |
| 23:50.17 | bsims | Mark`: hrm wmaker or *box if you need gui |
| 23:50.28 | le_neko | if i where you i try one by one |
| 23:50.29 | Mark` | but all my other systems are i686 and cross compiling is a bitch |
| 23:50.43 | le_neko | with reset to 0 before try another |
| 23:50.44 | Mark` | so i need something that an idiot can use once its setup (my brother, although im sure i can do a lot over ssh) |
| 23:50.46 | Sonny | le_neko: it was working... I dont know since I "upgraded" my packages now my system is a mess |
| 23:50.50 | Mark` | and that can run on piss poor hardware |
| 23:50.57 | Mark` | is debian net install what im looking for? ;p |
| 23:51.01 | bsims | Mark`: yeah |
| 23:51.01 | le_neko | okey you had it work before ? |
| 23:51.01 | dabreegster | Mark`: That sounds about like my setup. I'm a console person myself. Grab screen, irssi, and elinks and get comfortable with them for starters |
| 23:51.19 | Mark` | now my second question, how hard is it to get a 2.6 kernel on woody |
| 23:51.19 | Sonny | le_neko: yep it was working... |
| 23:51.24 | peterS | Mark`: quite possibly. I'd hardly call a K6 machine with 192 MB of RAM a piss poor machine though |
| 23:51.26 | Mark` | i couldnt find any netinstall iso's for unstable |
| 23:51.28 | dondelelcaro | Mark`: you don't want to run woody; run sarge. |
| 23:51.36 | le_neko | strangeness |
| 23:51.40 | peterS | Mark`: piss poor machine is 32 MB of RAM or less |
| 23:51.40 | cafuego | peterS: I would, though. |
| 23:51.40 | Goat25 | i'm running debian an a pentium 2 with 64 MB RAM |
| 23:51.41 | le_neko | i could not help you more |
| 23:51.43 | dondelelcaro | Mark`: and just select install26; from the sarge netinst boot. |
| 23:51.58 | Mark` | does it use udev and all the new stuff? |
| 23:52.03 | kc5cqm | is there a debian util that does the same as rh's chkconfig? |
| 23:52.04 | bsims | Mark`: you can't install sarge and then dist-update to testing and then to sid |
| 23:52.04 | Sonny | :( |
| 23:52.08 | dabreegster | Mark`: Oh, your brother might not be good with the console then |
| 23:52.09 | le_neko | _rene_ no success with apt-file dh_testdir |
| 23:52.15 | peterS | Mark`: depends on exactly what you mean by "all the new stuff" |
| 23:52.23 | Mark` | well, by new stuff i mean udev really |
| 23:52.30 | cafuego | kc5cqm: That depends on what chkconfig does |
| 23:52.32 | Sonny | is there any channel about "sound" issues or "alsa" |
| 23:52.37 | dondelelcaro | Mark`: it can use udev, but it doesn't by default. |
| 23:52.40 | peterS | Mark`: I don't recall whether it installs udev by default, but you *can* install and use udev |
| 23:52.43 | _rene_ | le_neko: RTFM |
| 23:52.47 | Mark` | okay |
| 23:52.48 | _rene_ | le_neko: apt-file search. |
| 23:52.49 | Mark` | =] |
| 23:52.54 | kc5cqm | cafuego, it's a utility for setting up rcX.d scripts...makes the symlinks for each runlevel |
| 23:52.57 | _rene_ | le_neko: and you of course have to do apt-file update first |
| 23:52.58 | le_neko | i done this _rene_ :) |
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| 23:53.05 | cafuego | kc5cqm: 'rcconf' is what you're after then. |
| 23:53.09 | le_neko | okey |
| 23:53.10 | kc5cqm | thanks ;-) |
| 23:53.11 | dondelelcaro | le_neko: you need to install build-essential and debhelper. |
| 23:53.11 | le_neko | the update |
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| 23:53.27 | cafuego | kc5cqm: Well, 'update-rc.d' is the actual tool, rcconf is abfriendly frontend. |
| 23:53.33 | rambo3 | what file contains errors if x doesnt start . /var/log/x.0.org doesnt indicate any errors but it wont start |
| 23:53.49 | cafuego | rambo3: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:53.50 | kc5cqm | thanks cafuego...will install |
| 23:53.53 | nvz | my phone is dying, and I left my charger at work :P |
| 23:53.57 | Mark` | when was sarge released? |
| 23:54.02 | bsims | latest udev/hal/etc works well in Sid |
| 23:54.07 | le_neko | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 23:54.07 | dabreegster | rambo3: Does it say anything helpful on the terminal where you started X? |
| 23:54.15 | _rene_ | Mark`: last July iirc |
| 23:54.19 | Mark` | ahh |
| 23:54.28 | Eulex | rambo3, look for (EE) and (WW) in Xorg.0.log |
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| 23:54.41 | Mark` | what a good window manager for somebody who just wants to listen to mp3s and browse the web, use gaim, etc |
| 23:54.47 | Mark` | gnome is just too much for this old system |
| 23:54.54 | kc5cqm | I really like blackbox |
| 23:54.54 | cafuego | Mark`: Try xfce |
| 23:54.57 | dondelelcaro | Mark`: any window manager will work; try openbox or similar. |
| 23:54.57 | dabreegster | Mark`: icewm-lite? |
| 23:55.01 | Mark` | lol |
| 23:55.06 | Mark` | looks like its just 'trial and error' then ;p |
| 23:55.10 | azeem | eh |
| 23:55.11 | bsims | Mark`: wmaker, icewm or flux/black/box |
| 23:55.16 | azeem | Mark`: you made a poll, you got a poll |
| 23:55.17 | le_neko | damn |
| 23:55.20 | Mark` | hehe |
| 23:55.21 | cafuego | Mark`: Well, what works for us may not work for you ;-) |
| 23:55.28 | ne0futur | Mark`: wmaker and xfce |
| 23:55.30 | le_neko | bunch of error in compile this mga_vid_source |
| 23:55.36 | Mark` | alright which one is idiot friendly |
| 23:55.37 | ne0futur | particularly wmaker |
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| 23:55.44 | kc5cqm | we all have our preferences for slim systems |
| 23:55.44 | cafuego | Mark`: Windows 95 |
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| 23:55.49 | Mark` | ;p |
| 23:55.58 | le_neko | syntax error before wave surround |
| 23:55.58 | cafuego | Mark`: windowmager and xfce are more or less 'integrated'. |
| 23:56.06 | bsims | Mark`: wmaker |
| 23:56.10 | le_neko | syntax error before"devfs_handle_t" (i mean) |
| 23:56.11 | kc5cqm | I like my girls with a little meat, but some like waifs. |
| 23:56.11 | rambo3 | (EE) RADEON(0): Failed to open framebuffer device |
| 23:56.12 | Mark` | kk, ill try wmaker first <3 |
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| 23:56.28 | kc5cqm | although blackbox is probably in the waif catagory |
| 23:56.31 | Eulex | !drxx rambo3 |
| 23:56.31 | dpkg | rambo3: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:56.39 | Mark` | my only real linux experience is gentoo + servers |
| 23:56.43 | Eulex | rambo3, and answer no to the framebuffer question |
| 23:56.44 | Mark` | a lightweight debian desktop should be fun to build |
| 23:56.54 | pureone | yes |
| 23:56.59 | kspath | Mark` openbox3 is nice as is ion3 |
| 23:57.01 | rambo3 | ok |
| 23:57.03 | Mark` | seems like the only real choice left for an old comp at least |
| 23:57.05 | peterS | Mark`: yeah, have fun. you might enjoy it. |
| 23:57.12 | pureone | altho im the otherway around :) |
| 23:57.17 | dabreegster | Mark`: You should get your brother used to the console. I've got an awesome command line setup. |
| 23:57.22 | pureone | i use gentoo for desktops and debian for servers ;) |
| 23:57.30 | Mark` | my brother is a mentally ill/petty criminal |
| 23:57.30 | _unstable | Mark`: It should take 10 minutes to build, just do a netinstall + apt-get install xserver-xorg x-window-system fluxbox dillo irssi mutt |
| 23:57.31 | bsims | Mark`: I hate to say it but I use KDE and gnome apps all the time in wmaker |
| 23:57.37 | Mark` | setting up a spare computer buys me some peace ;p |
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| 23:57.59 | abrotman | bsims: you evil evil man |
| 23:58.01 | Mark` | kk _unstable |
| 23:58.01 | quik_ | hey folks |
| 23:58.06 | Mark` | snagging netinstall now :D youve sold me |
| 23:58.06 | Mark` | lol |
| 23:58.12 | bsims | abrotman: hey I /like/ kmail <g> |
| 23:58.12 | quik_ | how do I stop kde/gnome from running on system start |
| 23:58.13 | quik_ | ? |
| 23:58.21 | abrotman | bsims: wash your mouth out! |
| 23:58.30 | abrotman | !tell quik_ about nodm |
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| 23:58.52 | bsims | abrotman: hey I dislike evolution and mutt just gives me hives |
| 23:59.04 | abrotman | bsims: balsa? sylpheed? |
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| 23:59.12 | rambo3 | Eulex it was allready on no to kernel framebuffer |
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| 23:59.16 | Mark` | oo debian mirrors are as fast as gentoos too |
| 23:59.25 | Mark` | i thought i was gonna have to shoot myself doing ubuntu ;p |
| 23:59.34 | peterS | Mark`: yeah we have a pretty awesome mirror network |
| 23:59.44 | Eulex | rambo3, hmm, could you try the following: |
| 23:59.45 | cafuego | except for security.debian.org <heh? |
| 23:59.47 | Eulex | !xmd5 |
| 23:59.47 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 23:59.52 | bsims | abrotman: hrm never tried either of those I may look in to those. |
