| 00:00.14 | abrotman | that girls don't poo ? |
| 00:00.18 | stoned | lol |
| 00:00.20 | stoned | what |
| 00:00.22 | r0tu | deadcat: Oh, I should listen to you because you obviously know better than I what I am doing. |
| 00:00.22 | *** join/#debian LoonaTick|afk (i=LoonaTic@office.contrabandict.nl) |
| 00:00.26 | SimonRaven | freakazoid333: i saw what you said, i'm asking you why you would say something stupid like that about me. you don't know me |
| 00:00.32 | stoned | what do they do with wastematter? |
| 00:00.33 | *** join/#debian haich (n=haich@246.Red-81-33-96.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:00.33 | r0tu | deadcat: << sarcasm>> |
| 00:00.45 | abrotman | SimonRaven: want me to drive downtown and kick his arse? |
| 00:00.46 | freakazoid333 | it wasnt about u somon |
| 00:00.52 | mentor | aibohphobia...the fear of palindromes |
| 00:00.53 | freakazoid333 | simon |
| 00:00.54 | deadcat | r0tu: i never ask you to listen to me.. i was commenting on your stupidity |
| 00:01.06 | deadcat | r0tu: << NOT sarcasm>> |
| 00:01.11 | *** join/#debian blazefx (n=blaze@71.143.215.32) |
| 00:01.13 | SimonRaven | abrotman: nah |
| 00:01.26 | abrotman | freakazoid333: i'm already at work .. it's a much shorter drive |
| 00:01.39 | *** join/#debian Cynthrax (n=none@85-124-22-59.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 00:01.53 | r0tu | deadcat: and I'm not embarrassed... I'm just trying to help you understand where I'm comming from... I to point out your stupidity... I would say I already admited my dumb err.. so why act as if I don't know |
| 00:02.29 | deadcat | r0tu: i dont want your help. obviously its not even working for you.. |
| 00:02.58 | *** join/#debian jmk (i=jmk7tj@211.216.74.236) |
| 00:03.16 | weasel00 | settle down children |
| 00:03.19 | mentor | indeed. |
| 00:03.19 | r0tu | deadcat: You mean to say you want to shut your mind to anothers point of view... and if that's the case.. why answer people.. they don't want your help with this attitude |
| 00:03.45 | deadcat | r0tu: your point? in what? how to chown? ya.. i'll shut that part |
| 00:04.10 | weasel00 | if we dont learn from other's mistakes then humanity will be screwed up from not learning form histories mistakes... ~ bastardized ghandi quote |
| 00:04.16 | BiRDmw | liable: modprobe ath_pci fails... see: http://pastebin.com/584272 |
| 00:04.30 | r0tu | deadcat: My point made with that.. since that completly besides the point of what I am discussing... |
| 00:04.44 | *** join/#debian dashinho (n=dashinho@WLL-27-pppoe087.t-net.net.ve) |
| 00:04.45 | stoned | anyone like propel? |
| 00:04.59 | deadcat | r0tu: no you didnt. all you've been doing is whinning about chown. |
| 00:05.05 | dondelelcaro | stoned: which one? |
| 00:05.15 | r0tu | deadcat: lol... ok your right... ttyl |
| 00:05.17 | stoned | all o fem |
| 00:05.22 | stoned | especially peach/berry |
| 00:05.44 | stoned | i just cocktailed 3 of em into a jug. berry, peach, lemon |
| 00:05.45 | *** join/#debian hejj (n=ubuntu@c-baa6e253.138-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 00:05.46 | stoned | it is wicked |
| 00:06.19 | *** part/#debian hejj (n=ubuntu@c-baa6e253.138-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 00:06.23 | BiRDmw | Anyone know anything about modprobe ath_pci failing?... see: http://pastebin.com/584272 |
| 00:06.51 | *** join/#debian jeanseb (i=jeanseb@wnpgmb01dc2-129-190.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 00:07.06 | deadcat | BiRDmw: update-modules yet? |
| 00:07.15 | *** join/#debian AciD (n=gni@unaffiliated/acid) |
| 00:07.18 | jeanseb | Hello, could you give me a good torrent client please? |
| 00:07.20 | dondelelcaro | stoned: you're talking about the water; ok... |
| 00:07.26 | deadcat | jeanseb: bittorrent |
| 00:07.28 | dondelelcaro | jeanseb: rtorrent |
| 00:07.33 | starchie | jeanseb: ctorrent |
| 00:07.38 | BiRDmw | deadcat: how do I do that? |
| 00:07.42 | jeanseb | dondelcaro: thanks |
| 00:07.43 | *** join/#debian Shadur (i=shadur@marduk.systemec.nl) |
| 00:07.44 | deadcat | r0tu: update-modules |
| 00:07.47 | Acid`X | deadcat: so if i remove discover i gotta load all the modules manually in /etc/modules? |
| 00:08.01 | freakazoid333 | SimonRaven u do know what a phobia is right? |
| 00:08.02 | deadcat | Acid`X: no. hotplug or udev should handle those |
| 00:08.02 | BiRDmw | i see |
| 00:08.04 | dondelelcaro | ctorrent isn't even in #debian, iirc. |
| 00:08.12 | SimonRaven | freakazoid333: of course |
| 00:08.15 | Sonny | stoned: I just installed konqueror, I'm trying to connect to my another Pc with smb://192.168.2.11/shared, it ask me for user and pass, but I dont see the files in the directory |
| 00:08.20 | dondelelcaro | hell, freshmeat doesn't even know about it... |
| 00:08.21 | *** join/#debian phar0z (n=pieterja@ip-81-11-172-56.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 00:08.23 | stoned | dondelelcaro, oh, what else is propel? |
| 00:08.45 | stoned | Sonny, make sure the share is good and the files aren't hidden or anything |
| 00:08.48 | dondelelcaro | stoned: google is your friend. [I won't advertise for the other things, since I'm siting in an office belonging to a company called propel.] |
| 00:08.55 | Acid`X | deadcat: so ill need a 2.6.12> kernel, udev and hotplug? |
| 00:09.01 | stoned | dondelelcaro, oh ok |
| 00:09.13 | Sonny | stoned: using smbclient I can see the files |
| 00:09.14 | *** join/#debian sixtymhz (n=rprice@cpe-066-057-113-244.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 00:09.17 | *** join/#debian calmar (i=calmar@84-73-252-116.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 00:09.21 | stoned | dondelelcaro, but you can tell me what your company's business is about though. |
| 00:09.23 | BiRDmw | deadcat: tis not an update-modules problem? |
| 00:09.24 | *** part/#debian phar0z (n=pieterja@ip-81-11-172-56.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 00:09.24 | *** join/#debian ifvoid (i=bas@213.227.141.210) |
| 00:09.26 | stoned | right? |
| 00:09.31 | dondelelcaro | stoned: google can |
| 00:09.33 | *** join/#debian dadexter (n=dadexter@modemcable152.209-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 00:09.36 | deadcat | Acid`X: i have a 2.6.14 and its running udev, before htat i was using this kernel with hotplug. |
| 00:09.37 | stoned | dondelelcaro, ok |
| 00:09.40 | stoned | Sonny, hmm |
| 00:09.55 | deadcat | BiRDmw: i dont know. update-modules just to make sure they are updated. |
| 00:10.01 | freakazoid333 | ok well when u said having the "hole" surgeucaslly reomved......and ment o say that that was something a homophobe (someine with a fear of gay people) |
| 00:10.02 | jeanseb | dondelelcaro: how do I install rtorrent? |
| 00:10.05 | *** join/#debian swatikiss (n=swatikis@adsl-68-79-89-245.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) |
| 00:10.10 | deadcat | jeanseb: apt-get install rtorrent |
| 00:10.13 | BiRDmw | deadcat: thats what i did! :) |
| 00:10.13 | stoned | jeanseb, apt-get install rtottent |
| 00:10.15 | stoned | doh |
| 00:10.23 | Acid`X | deadcat: udev and hotplug do the same? |
| 00:10.27 | swatikiss | i cant start mozilla-thunderbird ... it says "debian thunderbird cannot use the profile "default" because it is in use" |
| 00:10.33 | deadcat | Acid`X: kinna. they both seem to work (= |
| 00:10.36 | SimonRaven | freakazoid333: only in your mind. i was thinking of medical reasons ... |
| 00:10.38 | *** join/#debian tziku458 (i=tziku@86.104.64.32) |
| 00:10.39 | *** join/#debian ifvoid (i=bas@213.227.141.210) |
| 00:10.42 | swatikiss | but I am not running it currently... how can i fix this? |
| 00:10.48 | *** join/#debian Peaker (n=Peaker@85-250-146-36.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 00:10.50 | jeanseb | deadcat: i did that but cant find module |
| 00:10.54 | Sonny | mentor, stoned: correct!!!! I see the files now!... so the problem is gnome and samba together? |
| 00:11.07 | deadcat | jeanseb: you using stable? |
| 00:11.07 | tziku | hello, i have a problem. My apache 2 dosn't recognize index.htm or others idex...i need to put at the en for url index.htm . Help me please. |
| 00:11.08 | *** join/#debian skon (n=skon@24-151-131-165.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) |
| 00:11.18 | Acid`X | deadcat: i think im gonna dist-upgrade to sid and try it, any advice? |
| 00:11.25 | jeanseb | deadcat: yes |
| 00:11.43 | deadcat | jeanseb: i dont know if rtorrent is in stable. |
| 00:11.51 | *** join/#debian TerminX (n=terminx@64.62.190.212) |
| 00:11.54 | deadcat | Acid`X: if you know what unstable might do then go for it. |
| 00:12.21 | deadcat | BiRDmw: it MIGHT be a 2.4 problem with madwifi, i've done it for a friend once but he was using a 2.6 kernel. |
| 00:12.46 | *** join/#debian dem (n=g@85.194.148.16) |
| 00:12.49 | *** join/#debian CosmoDad (n=cosmodad@dodge.fzi.de) |
| 00:12.55 | BiRDmw | deadcat: I am starting to think so as well |
| 00:13.03 | jeanseb | deadcat: updated aptget: broken packages |
| 00:13.11 | bucky | tziku: you might need to comment out RedirectMatch ^/$ /apache2-default/ in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default and restart apache2 |
| 00:13.23 | CosmoDad | how do I pass parameters to modprobe? I tried "modprobe ipw2200 auto_create=off" but it keeps telling me that was an invalid argument. Is my syntax wrong? |
| 00:13.24 | BiRDmw | !tell BiRD about kernel update |
| 00:13.26 | deadcat | !find rtorrent |
| 00:13.29 | freakazoid333 | SinomRaven in anycase i meant no offense |
| 00:13.35 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'rtorrent' (1): (/usr/bin/rtorrent, /usr/share/doc/rtorrent/examples/rtorrent.rc) in net/rtorrent. |
| 00:13.43 | BiRDmw | !tell BiRD about update kernel |
| 00:13.49 | BiRDmw | !tell BiRD about update-kernel |
| 00:13.59 | deadcat | BiRDmw: usr /msg dpkg |
| 00:14.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 312] by debhelper |
| 00:14.06 | *** join/#debian Eulex (n=alex@h31n1fls33o998.telia.com) |
| 00:14.08 | BiRDmw | deadcat: sorry for that |
| 00:14.13 | *** join/#debian csrmit (n=boolean@ppp74-72.lns1.mel3.internode.on.net) |
| 00:14.23 | jeanseb | deadcat: broken packages |
| 00:14.38 | *** join/#debian chriswk (n=chriswk@cD9089959.inet.catch.no) |
| 00:14.51 | jeanseb | Any other idea than rtorrent for debian 3.1? |
| 00:14.57 | *** join/#debian mejo (n=jonas@debian/developer/mejo) |
| 00:15.05 | deadcat | jeanseb: try bittorrent |
| 00:15.08 | Acid`X | deadcat: humm, i know that theres some broken packages and stuff but i want to try something new |
| 00:15.14 | deadcat | rtorrent only in testing/unstable |
| 00:15.24 | Eulex | jeanseb, bittornado? |
| 00:15.30 | BiRDmw | how do i upate my kernel dpkg is being difficult |
| 00:15.39 | BiRDmw | !badbot |
| 00:15.45 | deadcat | Acid`X: i think only the kde/gnome stuff break. i rarely have stuff break on my sid |
| 00:15.51 | BiRDmw | !kick dpkg |
| 00:15.58 | *** part/#debian tziku (i=tziku@86.104.64.32) |
| 00:16.11 | jeanseb | deadcat: how do I start bittorent? It seems top be on my system already |
| 00:16.25 | deadcat | jeanseb: via url or a local .torrent file? |
| 00:16.35 | jeanseb | deadcat: ? |
| 00:16.35 | BiRDmw | !tell joke |
| 00:16.43 | SimonRaven | freakazoid333: ok |
| 00:16.44 | *** join/#debian agustinmendieta (n=lukio@host63.201-252-16.telecom.net.ar) |
| 00:16.54 | BiRDmw | !bottreat |
| 00:16.56 | Acid`X | BiRDmw: check the FAQ on the topic for linux26 |
| 00:17.04 | BiRDmw | !botsnack |
| 00:17.04 | dpkg | thanks, BiRDmw |
| 00:17.08 | Sonny | can you see a directory with krusader using samba? |
| 00:17.21 | ke6isf | !tell BiRDmw -about debian-bots |
| 00:17.25 | deadcat | jeanseb: create a dir torrents; cd in there and run btlaunchmanycurses . <-- this will search the current dir for all the .torrent files |
| 00:17.27 | Acid`X | deadcat: what desktop are you using? |
| 00:17.29 | *** join/#debian deepspace (n=darkmatt@c-69-137-189-188.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) |
| 00:17.29 | BiRDmw | Acid`X: is it that complicated |
| 00:17.33 | deadcat | Acid`X: openbox wm |
| 00:17.50 | jeanseb | deadcat: thanks |
| 00:17.50 | Acid`X | BiRDmw: get in a link? http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 00:17.55 | *** part/#debian agustinmendieta (n=lukio@host63.201-252-16.telecom.net.ar) |
| 00:18.08 | deadcat | BiRDmw: apt-get update && apt-cache search linux-image, find the one that matches your arch, apt-get install it. |
| 00:18.12 | BiRDmw | Acid`X: mucho gracies |
| 00:18.35 | Acid`X | BiRDmw: 'muchas' =P |
| 00:18.53 | *** join/#debian The_And1 (i=po@82.182.131.234) |
| 00:19.04 | jeanseb | deadcat: thanks! |
| 00:19.13 | *** join/#debian Phlexonance (n=nobody@85-124-22-198.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 00:19.18 | jeanseb | How do I get my ipod to be detected on debian 3.1? |
| 00:19.25 | *** join/#debian beered (n=me@ip70-171-212-49.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:19.56 | *** join/#debian bernardo (n=bernardo@200.150.175.133) |
| 00:20.12 | deadcat | jeanseb: gtkpod |
| 00:20.34 | *** join/#debian guk (i=chris@cable-63-135-23-39.sudbury.dyn.personainc.net) |
| 00:20.36 | jeanseb | deact: I tried this. Could not detect my ipod |
| 00:20.42 | *** join/#debian Phlexonance (n=phlexona@85-124-22-198.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 00:20.46 | bernardo | does anyone have mono installed??? |
| 00:20.47 | freeone3000 | Is it plugged in? |
| 00:21.09 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 00:21.09 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 00:21.20 | deadcat | jeanseb: i dont have an ipod so i cant tell you whats wrong (= |
| 00:21.34 | *** part/#debian The_And1 (i=po@82.182.131.234) |
| 00:21.42 | bernardo | does anyone have mono installed??? |
| 00:21.45 | deadcat | no |
| 00:21.54 | wireddd | probably |
| 00:22.03 | ke6isf | !tell bernardo -about anyone |
| 00:22.09 | Sonny | do you know how can I see a directory with krusader using samba? |
| 00:22.11 | ke6isf | bernardo: ...are you not getting the message? |
| 00:22.28 | *** part/#debian beered (n=me@ip70-171-212-49.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:22.35 | *** join/#debian resiak (n=will@86.139.53.111) |
| 00:22.36 | bernardo | ke6if: no... |
| 00:22.40 | BiRDmw | anyone know a good linux newbie site and haf a link? |
| 00:23.03 | Acid`X | deadcat: i had fluxbox, its quite nice and light |
| 00:23.03 | ke6isf | bernardo: Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 00:23.05 | wireddd | BiRDmw, pertaining to what? |
| 00:23.13 | *** join/#debian EvanCarroll (n=ecarroll@office.marketectsinc.com) |
| 00:23.21 | deadcat | Acid`X: ya. wasnt bad. thats what i used before openbox |
| 00:23.26 | wireddd | are you looking for a comparison of different distros, a collection of how-tos |
| 00:23.39 | Acid`X | deadcat: wich is difference between them? |
| 00:23.41 | wireddd | or console commands or what? |
| 00:23.44 | bernardo | ke6isf:ok...im just having trouble to install the monodevelop ide |
| 00:23.57 | ke6isf | !mono |
| 00:23.58 | dpkg | it has been said that mono is a community initiative to develop an open source, Cross platform version of the Microsoft.NET development platform. http://www.go-mono.com/ or the kissing disease, mononucleosis |
| 00:23.58 | BiRDmw | wireddd: basic use and function |
| 00:23.59 | *** join/#debian kadigibox (n=kadigibo@71-210-35-76.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 00:24.06 | BiRDmw | wireddd: just something to read |
| 00:24.16 | deadcat | Acid`X: openbox has less stuff that i dont need. and it says "fast as fuck" |
| 00:24.20 | SimonRaven | @kill Debby |
| 00:24.28 | BiRDmw | What is difference between 686 and 386? and how do I know my kernel version? |
| 00:24.33 | SimonRaven | rogue bot |
| 00:24.46 | Acid`X | deadcat: haha, nice :] |
| 00:24.52 | SimonRaven | 300 |
| 00:24.55 | deadcat | BiRDmw: you want 686 |
| 00:25.03 | *** join/#debian beered (n=me@ip70-171-212-49.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:25.11 | freeone3000 | Unless your computer was manufactured in the ninties and has a clock speed of less than 500 MHz. |
| 00:25.13 | Acid`X | deadcat: and the themes? ^^ |
| 00:25.16 | guk | I remember going to a i686 |
| 00:25.18 | freakazoid333 | 686 is for pentiums on up] |
| 00:25.19 | beered | is it possible to watch battery status of a laptop troug aterm? |
| 00:25.19 | guk | no way |
| 00:25.19 | deadcat | Acid`X: let me show you |
| 00:25.27 | *** join/#debian ghost (n=speaker@host-216-78-58-37.ath.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:25.27 | guk | anything over a P6 is i686 |
| 00:25.30 | *** join/#debian rem (n=rem@adsl-170-226-bs1.datacomm.ch) |
| 00:25.34 | guk | (p6 = pentium pro) |
| 00:25.35 | guk | :) |
| 00:25.35 | BiRDmw | deadcat: 686-smp or just 686? |
| 00:25.36 | *** join/#debian cyzie (n=cyzie@218.111.23.252) |
| 00:25.43 | freeone3000 | k7 for the AMD-based. |
| 00:25.47 | *** join/#debian m00s3s (n=m00s3s@cs181196022.pp.htv.fi) |
| 00:25.53 | deadcat | Acid`X: http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/xtermsplit.png http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/thunar.png |
| 00:25.58 | *** join/#debian darkcmd (n=jason@adsl-69-214-18-248.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) |
| 00:26.02 | deadcat | BiRDmw: smp is for more than 1 cpu |
| 00:26.25 | BiRDmw | okay i understand that. Why was I told to get i386.. silly stuff |
| 00:26.25 | deadcat | Acid`X: you on windows? |
| 00:26.26 | *** join/#debian |unix|like| (n=kurumin@201-24-103-42.bnut3703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 00:26.31 | SimonRaven | !smp |
| 00:26.31 | dpkg | from memory, smp is (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.phy.duke.edu/brahma/smp-faq/, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4's, or ... |
| 00:26.34 | *** join/#debian m00s3s- (n=m00s3s@cs181196022.pp.htv.fi) |
| 00:26.36 | *** join/#debian minimec (n=johndoe@84-74-191-216.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 00:26.59 | Acid`X | deadcat: yes, putty irssi |
| 00:27.05 | deadcat | oh |
| 00:27.06 | wireddd | BiRDmw, i386 will work on anything x86 that is newer than the 386 |
| 00:27.36 | ghost | hi everyone |
| 00:27.37 | Acid`X | deadcat: wich console manager is that one? |
| 00:27.43 | deadcat | Acid`X: thats xterm |
| 00:27.48 | *** join/#debian LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@68.93.136.141) |
| 00:27.49 | *** part/#debian beered (n=me@ip70-171-212-49.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:27.51 | mentor | Sonny: GNOME VFS SMB layer should work. |
| 00:27.54 | *** join/#debian m00s3s (n=m00s3s@cs181196022.pp.htv.fi) |
| 00:27.56 | *** join/#debian SerajewelKS (i=devnull@68.253.55.145) |
| 00:27.58 | deadcat | Acid`X: oh. SCREEN |
| 00:28.03 | mentor | Sonny: Working out why not requires more investigation |
| 00:28.06 | *** join/#debian Mushroomi (n=Mushroom@cs181203023.pp.htv.fi) |
| 00:28.06 | LinuxNIT | is there another way to monitor bat status than using acpi? |
| 00:28.20 | wireddd | apm maybe |
| 00:28.22 | ghost | anyone know of a good IM similar to yahoo w/voice for linux? |
| 00:28.26 | wireddd | !apm |
| 00:28.26 | dpkg | i heard apm is Advanced Power Management. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Power_Management |
| 00:28.32 | deadcat | ghost: no |
| 00:28.43 | *** join/#debian m00s3s (n=m00s3s@cs181196022.pp.htv.fi) |
| 00:28.55 | *** join/#debian aidan (i=aidan@unaffiliated/aidan) |
| 00:28.55 | Acid`X | deadcat: i guess thunar is the window manager then? |
| 00:29.03 | deadcat | Acid`X: no. file manager |
| 00:29.08 | Acid`X | aye |
| 00:29.28 | Acid`X | deadcat: hehe, looks nice :] |
| 00:29.32 | mentor | LinuxNIT: It might even be possible to poll the SMBus youself |
| 00:29.32 | deadcat | Acid`X: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/xwd_20060228_30046.png openbox |
| 00:29.43 | BiRDmw | fuckshit: ""apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 2.6.8-16sarge1"" returns: "E: Couldn't find package 2.6.8-16sarge1 |
| 00:30.05 | LinuxNIT | mentor, how would i do that? |
| 00:30.06 | *** join/#debian jsubl2 (n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33) |
| 00:30.11 | deadcat | Acid`X: that one is before i patched the openbox for the 3d-ish theme. if you next to the last image. thats the latest theme |
| 00:30.38 | nkuttler | BiRDmw: what did you expect apt to do? |
| 00:30.51 | resiak | !+info kernel-image-2.6.8-16sarge1-386 |
| 00:30.52 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 00:31.04 | dpkg | Package 'kernel-image-2.6.8-16sarge1-386' does not exist. |
| 00:31.07 | BiRDmw | nkuttler: install the 2.6 kernel |
| 00:31.37 | *** join/#debian civilian (i=civilian@cyberia.tuxsp.org) |
| 00:31.38 | *** join/#debian MatBoy (n=MatBoy@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl) |
| 00:31.41 | BiRDmw | nkuttler oh nvm i got it now |
| 00:31.49 | *** join/#debian resiak (n=will@unaffiliated/resiak) |
| 00:32.19 | *** join/#debian cindy (n=cindy@c-71-193-62-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:32.41 | *** join/#debian civilian (i=civilian@cyberia.tuxsp.org) |
| 00:32.41 | deadcat | rtorrent cant do a directory of .torrents? |
| 00:33.04 | *** join/#debian comsa (n=eddy_ami@katax1-031.dialup.optusnet.com.au) |
| 00:33.10 | Acid`X | deadcat: looks great, now i want mine like that ;P |
| 00:33.12 | nkuttler | deadcat: it can add all torrent in a dir and watch that dir later |
| 00:33.40 | deadcat | Acid`X: hehe. i need some nicer (blue-ish) bg to match the rest of the theme. |
| 00:33.52 | deadcat | nkuttler: oh. |
| 00:34.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 318] by debhelper |
| 00:34.07 | BiRDmw | deadcat: please see-> http://pastebin.com/584272 |
| 00:34.10 | *** join/#debian DaveLib (n=user@CPE000fb535cb3b-CM0012c90d2ad6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 00:34.17 | AciD | deadcat > what's your icon theme in that sshot ? |
| 00:34.32 | deadcat | nkuttler: i am using btlaunchmanycurese . right now |
| 00:34.36 | Acid`X | deadcat: have you check deviant? |
| 00:34.43 | deadcat | Acid`X: Tango |
| 00:34.46 | *** part/#debian minimec (n=johndoe@84-74-191-216.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 00:34.48 | nkuttler | deadcat: i did that too until i found rtorrent |
| 00:34.51 | AciD | deadcat > thx |
| 00:34.52 | Sonny | mentor:I'm using konqueror now... but i.e. I copy a jpg file but I cant see this picture from the another PC... why not? even the docs I can open them |
| 00:34.58 | deadcat | Acid`X: too much stuff there and their site suck. |
| 00:35.00 | deadcat | nkuttler: wow. nice |
| 00:35.09 | DaveLib | deadcat: hello again back from yesterday about trying 3ddesktop |
| 00:35.09 | deadcat | nkuttler: i guess rtorrent is even better then? |
| 00:35.20 | deadcat | DaveLib: got a new video card? (= |
| 00:35.33 | Acid`X | deadcat: haha yah but they have some good stuff some times |
| 00:35.38 | DaveLib | deadcat: anyway i rebooted to suse ... ahhh new card? no :-( |
| 00:35.48 | deadcat | BiRDmw: got to be the kernel. i dont know whats up |
| 00:36.02 | nkuttler | deadcat: for me it was bandwidth throttling + changing priorities on the fly |
| 00:36.07 | deadcat | Acid`X: that site is too difficult and annoying to navigate. |
| 00:36.25 | deadcat | nkuttler: well i know i will always set the up to 3 so.. (= |
| 00:36.26 | DaveLib | deadcat: anyway i checked my suse X config it said my video card had no hardware acceleration available |
| 00:36.35 | deadcat | ah |
| 00:36.52 | *** join/#debian m00s3s (n=m00s3s@cs181196022.pp.htv.fi) |
| 00:36.54 | deadcat | nkuttler: whats bandwitdh throttling? |
| 00:37.13 | *** part/#debian dashinho (n=dashinho@WLL-27-pppoe087.t-net.net.ve) |
| 00:37.22 | Acid`X | deadcat: uhh, whats the app in the bottom right? |
| 00:37.33 | BiRDmw | deadcat: after kernel update, is reboot needed? |
| 00:37.33 | deadcat | Acid`X: fbpanel |
| 00:37.38 | *** part/#debian erhan_R (n=signorel@tor/session/x-3c6672ad2a741ba2) |
| 00:37.45 | *** join/#debian m00s3s (n=m00s3s@cs181196022.pp.htv.fi) |
| 00:37.58 | deadcat | BiRDmw: yes. then you will have to build the driver again. with the 2.6.8 header files |
| 00:37.58 | nkuttler | deadcat: change max up/downstream |
| 00:38.05 | deadcat | ah |
| 00:38.09 | DaveLib | suse autonmatically detected my video card including the serial number as opposed to my sarge X config which only said sis and that suse detection said no hardware acceleration so i guess thats it |
| 00:38.39 | BiRDmw | deadcat: is rebuilding difficult? |
| 00:38.58 | Acid`X | BiRDmw: the kernel? |
| 00:39.00 | deadcat | Acid`X: i have the following running, cmatrix, conky, root-tail, gdeskcal, fbpanel, wmmatrix, wmifinet, wmnet, wmbubble, wmmixer, devilspie, xbindkeys, and some other stuff. |
| 00:39.05 | deadcat | BiRDmw: no. pretty easy. |
| 00:39.21 | BiRDmw | Acid`X: yes |
| 00:39.38 | *** join/#debian vdh (n=vhillier@aux.lansystems.ca) |
| 00:39.42 | deadcat | BiRDmw: no. youre not building a kernel. just the module |
| 00:39.48 | *** part/#debian Peaker (n=Peaker@85-250-146-36.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 00:39.59 | deadcat | BiRDmw: you can use the instructions here. few changes required: http://sshonly.sytes.net/config/madwifi.sh |
| 00:40.05 | *** join/#debian bernardo (n=bernardo@200.150.175.133) |
| 00:40.06 | Acid`X | 20:39 < deadcat> Acid`X: i have the following running, cmatrix, conky, root-tail, gdeskcal, fbpanel, wmmatrix, wmifinet, wmnet, wmbubble, wmmixer, devilspie, |
| 00:40.12 | bernardo | heyyy |
| 00:40.14 | Acid`X | mt |
| 00:40.14 | DaveLib | another project: i was hoping to get something similar to google earth running here in my sarge |
| 00:40.37 | SimonRaven | right |
| 00:40.42 | DaveLib | so there is nasa world wind which was originally in .net maybe i could run it in mono? |
| 00:40.43 | Acid`X | damn mouse :/ |
| 00:41.10 | bernardo | Does anybody knows how to install the mono ide (monodevelop) ? |
| 00:41.12 | DaveLib | or else there is a new program from the last few days ww2d which is a java program |
| 00:41.13 | SimonRaven | DaveLib: maybe. if it's the same arch, yeh. otherwise you'd need a rebuild (IIRC) |
| 00:41.47 | SimonRaven | i'm not 100% sure about that |
| 00:42.19 | Acid`X | deadcat: well imma boot debian and start fixing everything :] |
| 00:42.29 | deadcat | Acid`X: ya. about time (= |
| 00:42.30 | *** join/#debian eidan (n=eidan@212.59.223.33) |
| 00:42.40 | DaveLib | anyway if i decide ww2d should i install the original sun java to sarge or a more native one: like kaffe for exasmple |
| 00:42.46 | deadcat | Acid`X: oh. also running 3ddesktop |
| 00:43.12 | *** join/#debian Shadowcat (i=Ecto@c-145f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 00:43.12 | Acid`X | deadcat: and that is? :x |
| 00:43.23 | *** join/#debian delmar (n=Delmar@203-114-178-231.inspire.net.nz) |
| 00:43.32 | BiRDmw | been a while since i installed madwifi... where is default directory? |
| 00:43.37 | shay|wifi | Acid`X, apt-cache show 3ddesktop |
| 00:43.50 | DaveLib | i found in my sarge repo a couple of java vm's kaffe and another one |
| 00:43.51 | deadcat | Acid`X: the crappy 3d workspace switching. it will be shit once compiz and Xgl hits debian |
| 00:43.52 | *** join/#debian bwelmers (n=haasje@welmers.xs4all.nl) |
| 00:43.56 | *** join/#debian unix_infidel (n=blue@adsl-68-94-6-53.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 00:43.57 | Acid`X | shay|wifi: not in debian atm |
| 00:44.00 | *** join/#debian raf256 (n=raf256@unaffiliated/raf256) |
| 00:44.03 | *** join/#debian raf256` (n=raf256@unaffiliated/raf256) |
| 00:44.22 | *** join/#debian pjota (n=pjota@213.37.247.119) |
| 00:44.39 | DaveLib | or else dont run java vm do a native compile |
| 00:44.55 | pjota | hello |
| 00:44.57 | *** join/#debian devin (n=devin@69-172-40-18.frdrmd.adelphia.net) |
| 00:45.15 | DaveLib | deadcat: are compiz and xgl 2 separate programs? |
| 00:45.32 | *** join/#debian LUPUS_ (n=patty_10@host-200-58-78-16.supernet.com.bo) |
| 00:45.42 | *** join/#debian gravity (n=david@pool-151-203-48-188.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 00:45.45 | pjota | anybody knows the command wich can tell you a diferent word of the day every time you run it? |
| 00:45.50 | deadcat | DaveLib: compiz is the composite/window manager, xgl is the server stuff on top of X |
| 00:46.00 | *** join/#debian zebalin4 (n=al@adsl-71-143-30-251.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 00:46.00 | *** join/#debian Teuxe (n=dav@bdy93-5-82-235-82-187.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 00:46.01 | devin | im getting some errors when i boot up my computer. but its not listing it in dmesg ? |
| 00:46.13 | DaveLib | ahh so they work together deadcat? |
| 00:46.14 | deadcat | pjota: fortune? |
| 00:46.19 | SimonRaven | pjota: something like fortune? |
| 00:46.23 | deadcat | DaveLib: better when they work togetehr (= |
| 00:46.24 | pjota | let's try |
| 00:46.35 | pjota | that's it! |
| 00:46.38 | deadcat | gravity: yes please |
| 00:46.48 | pjota | thanks SimonRaven deadcat |
| 00:46.48 | Teuxe | hello every one |
| 00:46.55 | SimonRaven | why not, we keep getting people asking about it |
| 00:47.02 | bernardo | Does anybody knows a software to watch tv on pc ? |
| 00:47.13 | deadcat | pjota: you can write a short command to grep a random line from the dictionary file. that will give you 1 word (= |
| 00:47.23 | *** join/#debian Rune- (n=etc@203-217-65-160.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 00:47.24 | SimonRaven | sid just got a helluva load of mythtv packages |
| 00:47.26 | deadcat | bernardo: tvtime, xawtv |
| 00:47.27 | Teuxe | I'm having trouble with network, my network card seems to have 2 IPv4 addresses in the same time |
| 00:47.29 | *** join/#debian Gavrila (n=Gavrila@213-140-16-182.fastres.net) |
| 00:47.54 | Rune- | iptables --log-level says Unknown arg '--log-level' is there a module i need to load? |
| 00:47.57 | SimonRaven | Teuxe: mine has 16 |
| 00:48.10 | Teuxe | lol SimonRaven what's the f*ck ? |
| 00:48.14 | Shadowcat | SimonRaven: stop stealing ips |
| 00:48.18 | Acid`X | deadcat: http://www.deviantart.com/view/24425611/ |
| 00:48.18 | SimonRaven | IP aliasing |
| 00:48.23 | bernardo | deadcat: thanx |
| 00:48.32 | SimonRaven | Shadowcat: i rent the block fair and square ;) |
| 00:48.42 | Shadowcat | liar :P |
| 00:48.48 | deadcat | Acid`X: thanks. finally someone go through that site and find the stuff for me (= |
| 00:48.57 | Teuxe | I never asked for such an alias SimonRaven, how can I see where the aliases were put? |
| 00:48.57 | SimonRaven | you bug :) |
| 00:49.00 | *** join/#debian beered (n=me@ip70-171-212-49.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:49.07 | deadcat | Acid`X: too small, i need 2560x1024 |
| 00:49.16 | Rune- | Teuxe; /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:49.32 | Acid`X | deadcat: uhh, let me see if i can find the other website then :p |
| 00:49.43 | BiRDmw | WOOT! madwifi building! |
| 00:49.44 | Teuxe | Rune- my /etc/network/interfaces is fine for me, and no presence of that new IP address |
| 00:49.55 | SimonRaven | Teuxe: well, yours would be unintentional i take it. i'd check your interfaces file to see if you're not trying to set an ip twice, then bring down and bring back up the iface |
| 00:50.00 | deadcat | SimonRaven: wow about mythtv in sid. just got in? |
| 00:50.08 | Rune- | Tuexe; then perhaps it was added by hand using ifconfig command |
| 00:50.15 | SimonRaven | deadcat: there was a bunch before, some new stuff |
| 00:50.32 | BiRDmw | ty deadcat, Acid`X, liable... nad dpkg |
| 00:50.34 | Rune- | ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 as SimonRaven is suggesting |
| 00:50.42 | devin | im getting some errors when i boot up my computer. but its not listing it in dmesg ? did anyone get this? how do i get it to list the errors its something to do with /etc/modprobe.d/alsa |
| 00:50.52 | *** join/#debian intgr (n=not@2001:7d0:0:f2de:0:0:0:1) |
| 00:50.53 | Teuxe | wow...... Rune- and SimonRaven my second network card is also given a new address.... |
| 00:50.56 | *** join/#debian Sememmon (i=sememmon@ip68-2-180-200.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:51.04 | deadcat | SimonRaven: cool. too bad i only have 3 channels. |
| 00:51.14 | Rune- | u dont have dhcp running on your router or something Teuxe? |
| 00:51.22 | Teuxe | they are on the same network, 169.254.0.0 |
| 00:51.24 | SimonRaven | i have none, and i like it that way :) |
| 00:51.36 | SimonRaven | Teuxe: that's fucking zeroconf. get rid of it |
| 00:51.52 | deadcat | Acid`X: i cant unzip that file. |
| 00:52.13 | Rune- | do i need a special module for iptables --log-level ???? |
| 00:52.14 | Teuxe | what is zeroconf SimonRaven ? |
| 00:52.24 | Rune- | Debby; help me |
| 00:52.45 | Rune- | hm |
| 00:52.51 | Rune- | is Debby a bot.. |
| 00:52.52 | SimonRaven | Rune-: Debby is a bot |
| 00:52.59 | Rune- | well its a laggy bot. |
| 00:53.13 | Rune- | oh no it aint. |
| 00:53.20 | Acid`X | deadcat: want me to fix it for you? |
| 00:53.21 | Teuxe | Rune- I think you need some |
| 00:53.24 | deadcat | Acid`X: nevermind. firefox is downloading.. the dillo downlaod sucked. |
| 00:53.31 | deadcat | stupid dillo |
| 00:53.49 | SimonRaven | Teuxe: it sets an ip in that range (169.254.0.0) if the iface isn't configured with one in some way (like dhcp, or manual, or through other means) |
| 00:53.54 | *** join/#debian egon_spengler (n=egon@pool-71-98-96-69.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 00:54.05 | *** join/#debian Trixsey (i=secret@c-139072d5.012-2011-73746f31.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 00:54.13 | Teuxe | Rune- nfnetlink_log.ko |
| 00:54.24 | Rune- | ahh thanks |
| 00:54.36 | Acid`X | deadcat: haha, if doesnt work, you can send me your monitor and i'll send you mine :] |
| 00:54.43 | Teuxe | SimonRaven: what is the configuration file for zeroconf ? |
| 00:54.45 | deadcat | Acid`X: hahaha. |
| 00:54.56 | deadcat | Acid`X: unless yours is 23" or 30" |
| 00:54.57 | *** join/#debian mohua (n=panther@opensource.geek.nz) |
| 00:54.58 | SimonRaven | Teuxe: dpkg -L <package name> |
| 00:55.19 | Rune- | Teuxe; i dont seem to have that module |
| 00:55.28 | Acid`X | deadcat: /cry, 19" |
| 00:55.46 | Teuxe | Rune- well that's why it won't work |
| 00:55.56 | deadcat | Acid`X: that suck. lcd or crt? |
| 00:56.03 | Rune- | indeed... |
| 00:56.08 | gnufan | Teuxe: package is zcip |
| 00:56.18 | gnufan | Teuxe: probably |
| 00:56.51 | Acid`X | deadcat: LCD, hyundai imagequest |
| 00:56.59 | deadcat | Acid`X: not bad then. |
| 00:57.03 | Teuxe | gnufan thanks, zeroconf was a good package ^^ |
| 00:57.13 | Rune- | why doesnt debian come with a standard --log-level module for iptables - it's like, fairly useful? |
| 00:57.15 | SimonRaven | 15" apple multicsan :) |
| 00:57.41 | SimonRaven | Rune-: it's like, kernel dependent |
| 00:57.48 | Rune- | ahhh |
| 00:58.10 | *** part/#debian freakazoid333 (n=matt@pool-151-197-212-129.phil.east.verizon.net) |
| 00:58.14 | Rune- | SimonRaven; do u use nfnetlink_log or sometrhing else? |
| 00:58.17 | SimonRaven | i get more hits for "raven simon" the actress, than i do for my own name ... |
| 00:58.28 | SimonRaven | i have to. running 2.6.15 there |
| 00:58.35 | deadcat | now whats a command to set 2 images as background? |
| 00:58.45 | Rune- | im on 2.4.. |
| 00:59.03 | *** join/#debian xtr-II (n=01897268@staff-nat.netnation.com) |
| 00:59.05 | Teuxe | SimonRaven what's the need for using more than 1 interface address on a same card? |
| 00:59.11 | *** join/#debian Matt-H (i=matt@217.147.92.76) |
| 00:59.19 | SimonRaven | you need another module, iptables_LOG or such (can't remember now) |
| 00:59.42 | SimonRaven | Teuxe: several reasons ;) |
| 00:59.57 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@58.33.57.17) |
| 01:00.08 | mbishop | might be called ipt_LOG |
| 01:00.21 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 01:00.23 | Teuxe | you won mbishop |
| 01:00.41 | *** join/#debian koshka88 (n=mickey@88.139.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 01:00.45 | Teuxe | I love your details SimonRaven ;) |
| 01:01.27 | Rune- | well there IS an ipt_LOG but it doesnt let me use --log-level arg |
| 01:01.54 | *** join/#debian pureone (n=pure@unaffiliated/pureone) |
| 01:02.02 | Acid`X | deadcat: imma try to find you the link for the wallpapers, i forgot the link :/ |
| 01:02.05 | deadcat | Acid`X: hella nice. (= |
| 01:02.14 | deadcat | Acid`X: pixel girl? |
| 01:02.17 | Teuxe | Rune- modprobe ? |
| 01:02.21 | MatBoy | girls ?? |
| 01:02.22 | MatBoy | where :D |
| 01:02.36 | deadcat | MatBoy: #pussy |
| 01:02.38 | *** join/#debian licio (n=licio@c9119fdb.bhz.virtua.com.br) |
| 01:02.43 | gravity | ugh... |
| 01:02.52 | *** join/#debian soulreaper (i=b@p54A67AB1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:02.57 | MatBoy | hehe |
| 01:03.00 | *** join/#debian nias (n=nias@213.23.141.214) |
| 01:03.08 | *** join/#debian macOnki (n=hanswolt@lonki.xs4all.nl) |
| 01:03.08 | MatBoy | a real linux-nerd.... ugh :P |
| 01:03.16 | *** part/#debian DaveLib (n=user@CPE000fb535cb3b-CM0012c90d2ad6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:03.25 | Rune- | Tuexe; yes im using modprobe to load them |
| 01:03.29 | gravity | I don't need to troll around irc looking for girls, thanks. |
| 01:03.33 | Acid`X | deadcat: i don't remember the name, but i know that they have huge wallpapers with nature and stuff like that |
| 01:03.50 | deadcat | Acid`X: the one you link is really nice. |
| 01:03.52 | Teuxe | Rune-: lsmod|grep ipt ? |
| 01:03.55 | deadcat | let me screenshot it |
| 01:04.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 326] by debhelper |
| 01:04.04 | *** join/#debian alolex (n=fred@p54A2F1F4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:04.05 | MatBoy | gravity, Do you know what it are than ?? :) |
| 01:04.17 | *** join/#debian green_earz (n=admin@213-232-83-67.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk) |
| 01:04.20 | macOnki | DCC SEND werktditbijmeerdandertienkarakters |
| 01:04.25 | gravity | ugh |
| 01:04.33 | fhffhqvb | ... |
| 01:04.35 | deadcat | dammit |
| 01:04.53 | *** join/#debian EvanCarroll (n=ecarroll@office.marketectsinc.com) |
| 01:04.53 | *** join/#debian Acid`X (n=tim@201.243.245.31) |
| 01:04.55 | *** join/#debian erikm (n=erikm@CPE-65-25-241-194.mn.res.rr.com) |
| 01:04.59 | *** join/#debian b0xy (n=b0xy@65.255.135.160) |
| 01:05.01 | Rune- | Tuexe can i paste to u in /msg window? |
| 01:05.04 | *** join/#debian Econael (n=phlexona@85-124-22-198.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 01:05.04 | deadcat | Acid`X: that moron was fucking with you |
| 01:05.05 | MatBoy | macOnki, NEEE !!!! |
| 01:05.10 | bwelmers | macOnki: great isn't it, they don't seem to know here ;-) |
| 01:05.17 | Acid`X | deadcat: who? |
| 01:05.24 | macOnki | sorry guys, had to try it once :-) |
| 01:05.28 | deadcat | Acid`X: macOnki |
| 01:05.28 | MatBoy | haha |
| 01:05.28 | bwelmers | macOnki: it's quite rude BTW |
| 01:05.31 | MatBoy | in Nederlands :D |
| 01:05.35 | *** join/#debian blakkino (n=BLaCk@host108-218.pool8254.interbusiness.it) |
| 01:05.37 | MatBoy | in Dutch ;) |
| 01:05.44 | *** join/#debian Geren (i=Geren@dyn-bway-129-167.dyn.columbia.edu) |
| 01:05.44 | Geren | hi |
| 01:05.45 | *** join/#debian cappicar1 (n=cappicar@CPE-72-129-239-219.kc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:05.46 | *** join/#debian _Atomo64_ (n=A64@200.66.17.197) |
| 01:05.47 | Acid`X | deadcat: wth, what happened? |
| 01:05.57 | Rune- | Teuxe can i paste to u in /msg window? |
| 01:06.08 | deadcat | Acid`X: i was gonna say i dont feel like running xcompmgr to get translucentcy in order to take the screenshot.. |
| 01:06.11 | fhffhqvb | why would a router disconnect on text dcc send in a channel? doesn't it even check if there's an actual dcc send going on? |
| 01:06.20 | Geren | is there a way to look at the channels with the greatest number of users in freenode? |
| 01:06.22 | deadcat | Acid`X: he enterd a string which knocked few of you guys out |
| 01:06.46 | Teuxe | be free Rune- ;) |
| 01:06.48 | fhffhqvb | it's even dumber than the keylogger thing. |
| 01:06.56 | deadcat | Acid`X: ok. let me run xcompmgr.. because this bg is sooo cool (= |
| 01:07.00 | Acid`X | deadcat: oh, i saw my screen blinkin but didnt check that |
| 01:07.06 | Acid`X | deadcat: okie :] |
| 01:07.14 | resiak | does anyone have a document on why tf that worked? |
| 01:07.14 | *** mode/#debian [+o gravity] by ChanServ |
| 01:07.24 | MatBoy | A linksys modem is already hanging on connecting to IRC :) |
| 01:07.29 | gravity | wtf |
| 01:07.30 | fhffhqvb | holy crap! ops! |
| 01:07.32 | ke6isf | resiak: Something about some exploit in linksys equipment. |
| 01:07.37 | resiak | ah, okay |
| 01:07.44 | ke6isf | fhffhqvb: Yeah, means something is going to happen. |
| 01:07.54 | *** join/#debian chuckyp (i=histo@adsl-68-76-118-200.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net) |
| 01:07.55 | fhffhqvb | <ominous music> |
| 01:08.02 | *** join/#debian frowned (n=root@c83-253-11-71.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 01:08.03 | Piggy | TA TA TAAAAA |
| 01:08.19 | Teuxe | Rune- I can't post in pv :'( |
| 01:08.21 | Teuxe | lol |
| 01:08.22 | gravity | gar |
| 01:08.29 | Rune- | ah ok.. |
| 01:08.35 | *** mode/#debian [+gr] by gravity |
| 01:08.42 | *** mode/#debian [-o gravity] by gravity |
| 01:08.47 | fhffhqvb | what does +g do? |
| 01:08.49 | Teuxe | Rune- module seems to be loaded; what's the error from iptables? |
| 01:08.52 | gravity | Got me, that was a mistake |
| 01:08.54 | SimonRaven | +gr? |
| 01:09.00 | Rune- | iptables v1.2.11: Unknown arg `--log-level' |
| 01:09.03 | Teuxe | mode gravity :) |
| 01:09.06 | SimonRaven | heh, you got GR on the mind? ;) |
| 01:09.34 | Rune- | im running sarge.. updated using apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 01:09.35 | ifvoid | does anyone have any docs about this exploit? |
| 01:09.56 | ke6isf | ...so what's +r do? |
| 01:10.05 | fhffhqvb | ifvoid: umm. yeah. the docs would be "someone types dcc send in caps and then some string". that's it. |
| 01:10.06 | SimonRaven | what exploit? |
| 01:10.20 | ifvoid | fhffhqvb: yeah, but on how to fix it, and things like that |
| 01:10.20 | ke6isf | SimonRaven: It's that DCC exploit that's been going around. |
| 01:10.22 | SimonRaven | oh that one |
| 01:10.28 | _Atomo64_ | hey, what can I do if I can't load the xserver using the via drive and I have to use vesa... it gives me a 'no screens found' error, ... and I downloaded a via chipset driver, compiled it as a kernel module... everything ok, I can load it, everything ok... but when I run the xserver... nothing changes... vesa: 800x600, and when I try via... nothing, same error, what can I do? |
| 01:10.30 | ifvoid | SimonRaven: the linksys thing |
| 01:10.42 | fhffhqvb | ifvoid: don't use a hardware router |
| 01:10.49 | SimonRaven | yeh. had some idiots yesterday trying it out on people ... |
| 01:10.53 | ifvoid | fhffhqvb: I don't |
| 01:10.54 | ifvoid | well |
| 01:10.57 | ifvoid | I do |
| 01:11.00 | ifvoid | but it runs linux ;) |
| 01:11.01 | fhffhqvb | ifvoid: doesn't matter then |
| 01:11.03 | ke6isf | SimonRaven: It's been happening on and off all day today. |
| 01:11.17 | Teuxe | Rune- what's the failing command line for iptables? |
| 01:11.42 | Rune- | Teuxe, i cant set the log-level so its just going to /var/log/messages |
| 01:11.58 | Rune- | Teuxe; iptables v1.2.11: Unknown arg `--log-level' |
| 01:12.28 | Teuxe | i'm asking for the filter line Rune- |
| 01:12.57 | Rune- | the filter line is irrelevant? |
| 01:13.15 | Rune- | iptables -A LOGDROP -j LOG --log-level DEBUG |
| 01:13.50 | *** join/#debian dark_light (n=dark@20132233222.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 01:14.05 | Rune- | brb.. |
| 01:14.41 | _Atomo64_ | anybody...? |
| 01:15.09 | alolex | anyone using enlightenment with debian? |
| 01:15.45 | ifvoid | enlightenment is kind of obsolete |
| 01:15.57 | alolex | I didn't ask if it was obsolete... |
| 01:16.00 | *** join/#debian Stevie (n=whatsit2@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Stevie) |
| 01:16.09 | Rune- | that seems ok, right Teuxe? |
| 01:16.23 | ifvoid | alolex: so? |
| 01:16.24 | Rune- | waitttttttttttttt |
| 01:16.31 | Rune- | Teuxe it works now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:16.35 | ifvoid | alolex: are we payed to answer your questions and your questions only? |
| 01:16.46 | Rune- | that's some spurious error message! |
| 01:16.49 | ifvoid | alolex: anyway, what was your question? |
| 01:16.51 | Teuxe | hum Rune- have a candle |
| 01:16.54 | ifvoid | I've used E in the past |
| 01:16.54 | deadcat | Acid`X: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/xwd_20060304_10459.jpg |
| 01:16.55 | Teuxe | ^^ |
| 01:16.55 | bernardo | Is there a way to the system detect my printer automatically? |
| 01:17.05 | ifvoid | bernardo: cups should do that |
| 01:17.11 | Rune- | hahahah |
| 01:17.20 | Rune- | its ok, only wasted an hour on the problem |
| 01:17.21 | ifvoid | bernardo: if it's network or usb, at least |
| 01:17.25 | Rune- | thanks Teuxe and others |
| 01:17.35 | bernardo | ifvoid: how do i run cups? |
| 01:17.37 | Teuxe | SimonRaven thanx the problem of ugly address disappeared ^^ |
| 01:17.49 | Teuxe | you're welcome Rune- |
| 01:17.53 | Rune- | so then, the world is at peace |
| 01:17.56 | ifvoid | bernardo: just apt-get install cupsys |
| 01:18.17 | *** part/#debian macOnki (n=hanswolt@lonki.xs4all.nl) |
| 01:18.21 | _Atomo64_ | anybody wants to help this poor guy who only wants to make his xserver run in 1024x768? |
| 01:18.24 | Acid`X | deadcat: nicee :] |
| 01:18.25 | bernardo | ifvoid: i have a epson stylus cx4500, do u know if debian have support for this printer? |
| 01:18.35 | Teuxe | i used enlightenment and found it funny but not very easy to use |
| 01:18.37 | deadcat | Acid`X: not bad. hehe |
| 01:18.37 | liable | !printing |
| 01:18.37 | dpkg | rumour has it, printer is a device that allows you to put things from your computer onto paper, envelopes, or whatever. don't forget to check http://www.linuxprinting.org, or a hardcopy output device. easy to set up using foomatic-gui |
| 01:18.52 | *** join/#debian Holborn (n=holborn@237.Red-217-125-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 01:19.00 | Acid`X | deadcat: hehe, if i find the others one, u gonna love them =D |
| 01:19.05 | alolex | ifvoid: It wont show me a menu when I click and I can't even get a term and its annoying |
| 01:19.10 | deadcat | Acid`X: ya hehe |
| 01:19.10 | ifvoid | bernardo: no idea out of the top of my head |
| 01:19.20 | ifvoid | bernardo: but if it's listed on linuxprinting.org, it should be |
| 01:19.27 | ifvoid | alolex: hmm |
| 01:19.33 | Acid`X | deadcat: theres one like a blue sky that will match perfectly :p but gotta remember the link x( |
| 01:19.43 | ifvoid | alolex: maybe you have nautilus or konqueror running on the root window? |
| 01:19.54 | bernardo | ifvoid: ok, thanx |
| 01:20.02 | alolex | ifvoid: haha you're probably right |
| 01:20.33 | beered | bernardo: EPSON Stylus CX4500 is supported with cups. |
| 01:20.44 | Teuxe | deadcat the picture of your link is <3 |
| 01:21.05 | bernardo | beered: ok, thanx |
| 01:21.06 | freeone3000 | Is there a reason that the tomcat5 package doesn't install the base tomcat..? (Also got apache2 module) |
| 01:21.08 | deadcat | Teuxe: which one? |
| 01:21.31 | Teuxe | sshonly etc. |
| 01:22.12 | deadcat | Teuxe: i am not following. the <3 also confused me. |
| 01:22.24 | Teuxe | <3 is heart :) |
| 01:22.41 | *** join/#debian bvs (i=dpkg@me-8-117-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 01:23.04 | _Atomo64_ | ... still nobody can help me? |
| 01:23.23 | Teuxe | _Atomo64_ what is wrong? |
| 01:23.40 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe: "hey, what can I do if I can't load the xserver using the via drive and I have to use vesa... it gives me a 'no screens found' error, ... and I downloaded a via chipset driver, compiled it as a kernel module... everything ok, I can load it, everything ok... but when I run the xserver... nothing changes... vesa: 800x600, and when I try via... nothing, same error, what can I do?" |
| 01:23.46 | Teuxe | you don't know <3 you americans? ;) |
| 01:24.09 | Stevie | I don't know less than three you americans? |
| 01:24.14 | freeone3000 | Less than three. |
| 01:24.40 | Teuxe | Stevie: it's an heart |
| 01:24.57 | Teuxe | love |
| 01:25.04 | freeone3000 | _Atomo64_: Do you have xserver configured right? |
| 01:25.11 | Teuxe | like :) or ;) or :D |
| 01:25.13 | freeone3000 | _Atomo64_: As in, using the correct driver and all? |
| 01:25.15 | deadcat | Teuxe: i dont have a myspace.com account (= |
| 01:25.33 | freeone3000 | You don't have an opposite to :D |
| 01:25.42 | freeone3000 | No one has found one yet. |
| 01:25.50 | deadcat | hehe. thats why i only use (= |
| 01:25.51 | Teuxe | deadcat neither me :) |
| 01:26.19 | _Atomo64_ | freeone3000: I tried to configure it myself (two times, the first time when I just installed debian (0 knowledege about xservers...) and the second time two days ago), and now I'm using the XF86Config-4 from knoppix |
| 01:27.01 | freeone3000 | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:27.07 | freeone3000 | Follow the basic instructions. |
| 01:27.08 | *** join/#debian dadexter (n=dadexter@modemcable152.209-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 01:27.32 | freeone3000 | Most of them have sensible defaults, and default to your last said values, so pretty much ignore everything but the driver. |
| 01:27.37 | freeone3000 | On that one, select "via". |
| 01:27.41 | _Atomo64_ | freeone3000, already done... that |
| 01:27.42 | *** join/#debian HaCKeT|FiZZ (n=unknown@88-96-2-113.dsl.zen.co.uk) |
| 01:27.52 | freeone3000 | _Atomo64_: And 'via' is selected? |
| 01:28.11 | _Atomo64_ | freeone300: yes |
| 01:28.19 | _Atomo64_ | *freeone3000 |
| 01:28.36 | _Atomo64_ | freeone3000: if you want, I can give you a copy of the log... |
| 01:29.00 | freeone3000 | Alrighty, I'm out of ideas. |
| 01:29.05 | _Atomo64_ | if that helps you to tell me what's wrong, well... to find a solution ;) |
| 01:29.08 | _Atomo64_ | :( |
| 01:29.42 | freeone3000 | Installing x-window-system do any good? |
| 01:29.58 | Teuxe | _Atomo64_ are you sure you have a via card? |
| 01:30.14 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe: 1000% sure |
| 01:30.20 | *** join/#debian Coweater (i=coweater@pool-71-96-152-248.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 01:30.37 | *** join/#debian obscuresoul (n=soul@87-196-238-118.net.novis.pt) |
| 01:30.39 | obscuresoul | hi |
| 01:30.44 | freeone3000 | That's (10 times)-50 as sure as you should be... |
| 01:30.53 | BiRDmw | How come when I go to run "make install", I get "Make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop. |
| 01:30.55 | BiRDmw | " |
| 01:31.04 | freeone3000 | make -f Makefilehere install |
| 01:31.05 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe: it is a via pm800 northbridge and vt8237 southbridge |
| 01:31.14 | Acid`X | deadcat: i think i saw your website like 1 month ago, i was looking for quickcam keywords and got to it :p |
| 01:31.21 | freeone3000 | _Atomo64_: And it's a video card. Not a network card. |
| 01:31.58 | _Atomo64_ | freeone3000: if you want I can give you the page that contains ALL the details about my mb |
| 01:31.58 | Teuxe | lol freeone3000 |
| 01:32.12 | deadcat | Acid`X: ya. i have a picture taken from that crappy camera (= |
| 01:32.29 | vdh | deadcat: What wm&term is that in the screen shot? |
| 01:32.46 | _Atomo64_ | and when I try knoppix, it loads with vesa... and when I try ubuntu... it doesn't want to load anything by default and I have to choose vesa... |
| 01:32.53 | deadcat | http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/misc/logitech.quickcam.vc.on.linux.png long time ago though.. i was pretty new to building modules |
| 01:33.02 | deadcat | vdh: openbox and xterm |
| 01:33.12 | Acid`X | deadcat: haha, i want to install linux for my dad and he have a quickcam stx so i wasnt sure if there was support for it |
| 01:33.36 | BiRDmw | freeone3000: "make -f Makefilehere install" returns "make: *** /home/birdmw/kismet: Is a directory. Stop." isnt it good that there IS a directory? |
| 01:33.45 | *** join/#debian _ToNhO_ (n=tonhoo@201.15.201.215) |
| 01:33.49 | _ToNhO_ | is this ia64 a pentium 4 processor 64? |
| 01:33.50 | vdh | deadcat cool ;) |
| 01:33.57 | deadcat | Acid`X: i dont know that model. the quickcam express doesnt work on linux. i have a 3000, the 4000 is even better. |
| 01:34.00 | freeone3000 | BiRDmw: That influences that something is messed up in the makefile itself. |
| 01:34.05 | bbrazil | _ToNhO_: ia64 is itanium |
| 01:34.12 | freeone3000 | BiRDmw: Assuming you replaced Makefilehere |
| 01:34.13 | bbrazil | _ToNhO_: you probably want amd64 |
| 01:34.24 | Acid`X | deadcat: i think the stx comes after the 4000 hehe |
| 01:34.29 | deadcat | oh |
| 01:34.33 | deadcat | fancy hehe |
| 01:34.37 | obscuresoul | what's the purpose of the package gettext? i can't get it... |
| 01:34.49 | deadcat | maybe it uses pwc as well. thats what i am using for the 3000, same for 4000 |
| 01:34.55 | freeone3000 | Okay, I don't get how it supports a random piece of video cam, but doesn't support a lexmark printer. :P |
| 01:35.00 | bbrazil | obscuresoul: internationalisation |
| 01:35.04 | _Atomo64_ | freeone3000, Teuxe: http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=302&MenuID=22&LanID=0 |
| 01:35.05 | resiak | deadcat: gtk theme? |
| 01:35.17 | deadcat | resiak: clearlooks. i;ve been posting the .deb here all week (= |
| 01:35.24 | deadcat | resiak: didnt you get the memo? hehe |
| 01:35.31 | resiak | Oh, is this the new clearlooks? |
| 01:35.40 | deadcat | resiak: ya 2.7.4 |
| 01:35.48 | deadcat | resiak: http://debian.sshonly.sytes.net/i386/gtk2-engines-clearlooks_2.7.4-1_i386.deb |
| 01:35.50 | obscuresoul | bbrazil what that means? |
| 01:36.06 | bernardo | how do i run this file (gutenprint-5.0.0-rc2.ppc.dmg) ??? |
| 01:36.26 | *** join/#debian kyncani (n=kyncani@bro29-1-82-245-180-190.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 01:36.35 | _ToNhO_ | bbrazil: tks |
| 01:36.51 | bbrazil | obscuresoul: gettext takes something like 'string47' and makes it 'and' for english and 'et' for french etc. |
| 01:37.14 | deadcat | resiak: i heard the svn version is even better. i am on the sid version. cant get the svn to compile. |
| 01:37.14 | Teuxe | oops _Atomo64_ your link doesn't work |
| 01:37.29 | resiak | deadcat: and I recognise the calendar, but... |
| 01:37.30 | deadcat | bbrazil: you dont |
| 01:37.31 | Acid`X | deadcat: i got my old webcam working with ov511, had it runing for a week with webcam til the box died |
| 01:37.34 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe, what do you mean that it doesn't works? |
| 01:37.38 | deadcat | resiak: ya. (= |
| 01:38.01 | deadcat | Acid`X: ya. the ov511 is pretty nice too. the otehr picture in the misc is using ov511 |
| 01:38.02 | Teuxe | _Atomo64_ www.pcchips.com.tw not reachable |
| 01:38.23 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe, try using a proxy or something... because it works for me |
| 01:38.48 | Acid`X | deadcat: if i get the quickcam working ill be happy haha, my dad got a virus and lost all his mailbox x_x |
| 01:39.17 | bernardo | how do i run this file (gutenprint-5.0.0-rc2.ppc.dmg) ??? |
| 01:39.28 | *** join/#debian azeem (n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 01:39.50 | resiak | deadcat: What's the calendar? |
| 01:40.03 | freeone3000 | bernardo: With Mac OS X. |
| 01:40.03 | deadcat | Acid`X: damn that sucks. |
| 01:40.12 | *** join/#debian liable (n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable) |
| 01:40.17 | freeone3000 | bernardo: You downloaded a powerpc disk image file. |
| 01:40.19 | _Atomo64_ | freeone3000: so? |
| 01:40.21 | _ToNhO_ | bbrazil: yeap, do exist any debian distribution image for amd64? |
| 01:40.23 | deadcat | resiak: gdeskcal.. although its not the best. but i cant find something better right now. damn python is slow |
| 01:40.33 | *** join/#debian zinx (n=zinx@unaffiliated/zinx) |
| 01:40.37 | resiak | deadcat: ah, yeah. ISTR that that's why I removed it ;) |
| 01:40.52 | bernardo | freeone3000: cant i run on debian??? |
| 01:41.03 | freeone3000 | bernardo: Only with a mac emulator. |
| 01:41.13 | bbrazil | _ToNhO_: yes, there's sarge cds |
| 01:41.14 | Acid`X | deadcat: yeah, i tried a livecd on his machine and got everything but the webcam >.< |
| 01:41.21 | deadcat | resiak: if you just want the cal and no reminder. use conky and sshonly.sytes.net/config/home/deadcat/.conkyrc.pandora |
| 01:41.27 | bernardo | freeone3000: ok...thanx |
| 01:41.43 | freeone3000 | apt-get install gutenprint btw. |
| 01:41.45 | deadcat | Acid`X: hehe. serached online for the chipset yet? |
| 01:41.56 | resiak | deadcat: Fair enough. I'm not a fan of conky, so |
| 01:42.01 | deadcat | give him your webcam and keep his. heh |
| 01:42.12 | freeone3000 | *gimp-print |
| 01:42.21 | _ToNhO_ | bbrazil: where do i can find them |
| 01:42.23 | _ToNhO_ | ? |
| 01:42.24 | deadcat | resiak: ya. conky is not my fav either but it does the job on the ibooko |
| 01:42.28 | bbrazil | !amd64 |
| 01:42.29 | dpkg | well, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 01:42.53 | resiak | deadcat: 'k |
| 01:42.58 | Acid`X | deadcat: lol, the one that i have here is his old webcam :P, he wanted a newer one since the old one is like 0.1 megapixel hehe |
| 01:43.08 | _ToNhO_ | bbrazil: tks |
| 01:43.34 | deadcat | Acid`X: hahaha. |
| 01:43.50 | Acid`X | and i think that my webcam runs with spacxx or something like that |
| 01:44.07 | *** join/#debian cheal (n=chealer@pdpc/supporter/student/chealer) |
| 01:44.39 | SimonRaven | Teuxe: cool |
| 01:45.05 | BiRDmw | help installing kismet! |
| 01:45.17 | deadcat | BiRDmw: apt-get install kismet |
| 01:45.21 | Acid`X | BiRDmw: you gonna kiss me? |
| 01:45.24 | Acid`X | ;P |
| 01:45.26 | BiRDmw | cant find make file! |
| 01:45.30 | *** join/#debian phyberoptix (n=krunked@65.40.163.187) |
| 01:45.37 | BiRDmw | !dpkg kiss Acid`X |
| 01:45.37 | freeone3000 | ls make |
| 01:45.42 | freeone3000 | One of those is the one you want. |
| 01:45.42 | yawg | is there a way to kill all unnecessary processes durring a kernel install to free up memory? i have an average of 1.5MB free and i need to get it around 4 or 5MB free |
| 01:45.45 | BiRDmw | kk |
| 01:46.00 | freeone3000 | yawg: You can start kill -KILL ing them. |
| 01:46.13 | *** join/#debian ElectricElf (n=dbharris@debian/developer/dbharris) |
| 01:46.14 | freeone3000 | yawg: ps aux to find out what's running. |
| 01:46.19 | yawg | yeah i've been doing that |
| 01:46.26 | yawg | a lot of them start back up after i kill them |
| 01:46.31 | yawg | and some don't free up enough |
| 01:46.43 | freeone3000 | Kill the GUI? |
| 01:46.47 | Teuxe | _Atomo64_ you tried via driver with low-res? |
| 01:46.48 | freeone3000 | That should free up some. |
| 01:46.49 | yawg | i'm not running one |
| 01:46.54 | freeone3000 | ...Oh. |
| 01:47.03 | yawg | i have 14MB of RAM total |
| 01:47.04 | Teuxe | _Atomo64_ sorry that won't work |
| 01:47.08 | freeone3000 | How do you only have 1.5 MB free with... Oh, okay, that answers that. |
| 01:47.24 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe: I've tried everything using the 'via' driver... |
| 01:47.29 | yawg | is there a way to run the system in extremely basic mode from startup? |
| 01:47.38 | freeone3000 | yawg: shutdown now |
| 01:47.47 | freeone3000 | yawg: Will bring it down a few runlevels. Have to be root, though. |
| 01:47.49 | yawg | well.. i'm talking to you from this machine.. |
| 01:47.57 | freeone3000 | It won't turn it off. |
| 01:48.01 | *** join/#debian herbi (n=herbinet@c211-30-119-100.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 01:48.03 | yawg | oh |
| 01:48.03 | freeone3000 | Just'll bring you down to a VERY basic levle. |
| 01:48.03 | *** join/#debian tennin (n=max@ppp-68-95-68-82.dialup.stlsmo.swbell.net) |
| 01:48.06 | bbrazil | yawg: put the HDD in another system with more RAM, install there, put HDD back |
| 01:48.08 | Teuxe | driver is probably not found _Atomo64_ did you find the driver in binary dirs? |
| 01:48.08 | yawg | ohh, col |
| 01:48.31 | bbrazil | yawg: for general usage, see /etc/inittab |
| 01:48.32 | yawg | bbrazil: thought of that, not really an option, when i tried to open it(this laptop) up i realized it would be way too hard |
| 01:48.41 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe: **checking for it** |
| 01:48.49 | bbrazil | yawg: ah, came across one of those once |
| 01:49.00 | bbrazil | yawg: dd+netcat? |
| 01:49.09 | yawg | is that a command? |
| 01:49.24 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe: what's the path of the drivers directory? |
| 01:49.29 | *** join/#debian agney (n=bofh@unaffiliated/agney) |
| 01:49.49 | yawg | well i'm gonna try the shutdown now thing |
| 01:50.15 | BiRDmw | apt-get install kismet success. Do I have to build it now or can I run it? |
| 01:50.31 | freeone3000 | BiRDmw: It's distributed precompild, and configures itself to your system. |
| 01:50.35 | freeone3000 | BiRDmw: You can run it. |
| 01:50.44 | BiRDmw | right on! |
| 01:50.54 | deadcat | BiRDmw: no. do some changes in /etc/kismet then run it |
| 01:51.12 | *** join/#debian chriswk (n=chriswk@cD9089959.inet.catch.no) |
| 01:51.20 | BiRDmw | deadcat: what sort of changes do you speak of? |
| 01:51.34 | Teuxe | hmm dont know _Atomo64_ :( |
| 01:51.35 | deadcat | BiRDmw: driver to use, etc |
| 01:51.47 | obscuresoul | bbrazil tks :) |
| 01:51.51 | BiRDmw | let me see |
| 01:52.10 | Teuxe | _Atomo64_ i have: |
| 01:52.34 | Teuxe | _Atomo64_: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers |
| 01:53.03 | Acid`X | deadcat: i think i found it |
| 01:53.33 | *** join/#debian RafaelNunes (n=RafaelNu@201-34-197-85.bsaco700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 01:54.05 | *** join/#debian Disputin (n=sean@c-67-168-224-155.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 01:54.50 | BiRDmw | deadcat: in /etc/kismet I see ap_manuf client_manuf kismet.conf kismet_drone.conf and kismetui.conf I am guessing kismet.conf is correct but what do i do to configure it |
| 01:55.04 | deadcat | ya. and the kismetui.conf |
| 01:55.17 | deadcat | resiak: tried the clearlooks yet? |
| 01:55.22 | resiak | nope |
| 01:55.30 | BiRDmw | deadcat: edit it with text editor? |
| 01:55.45 | deadcat | BiRDmw: sure. if thats what you prefer. |
| 01:56.57 | resiak | deadcat: I'm pulling in enough of Sid to use it ;) |
| 01:57.25 | deadcat | hahah |
| 01:57.42 | deadcat | ya. i built it on sid and my friend is using stable so he cant use it. |
| 01:57.54 | RafaelNunes | HI, I'm from Brasilian |
| 01:58.00 | deadcat | !es |
| 01:58.01 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 01:58.08 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe: I don't know... I can't find any directory like that... |
| 01:58.09 | RafaelNunes | Idont write ingles good! |
| 01:58.13 | freeone3000 | Brazil speaks portugese. :) |
| 01:58.16 | nkuttler | !pt |
| 01:58.16 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 01:58.23 | deadcat | freeone3000: hell, i dont know. i am american (= |
| 01:58.27 | RafaelNunes | tank's |
| 01:58.34 | yawg | ok, shutdown now brings me up to 2.8MB free |
| 01:58.45 | yawg | i guess it's /something/ |
| 01:58.45 | freeone3000 | How the smeg... |
| 01:59.00 | resiak | deadcat: You suck: /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:52: error: unexpected identifier `scrollbar_color', expected character `}' |
| 01:59.04 | freeone3000 | Okay. I suggest installing the kernel while the computer is OFF. |
| 01:59.12 | yawg | heh |
| 01:59.17 | yawg | freeone3000: is that possible? |
| 01:59.21 | freeone3000 | yawg: No. |
| 01:59.25 | yawg | freeone3000: thanks. |
| 01:59.29 | *** join/#debian Zeit|awy (n=wurscht@p54A78D35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:59.39 | deadcat | resiak: you installed it? i dont have that problem. |
| 01:59.45 | freeone3000 | yawg: Download kernel. Compile kernel. Move kernel to requested/required space. |
| 01:59.47 | BiRDmw | how do i get kismet to appear in the start menu (linux start menu). |
| 01:59.53 | *** join/#debian geli (i=geli@p5090D466.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:59.57 | yawg | is there a floppy distro that will run just enough to upgrade the kernel? |
| 01:59.57 | Teuxe | hem _Atomo64_ hard (lol): find /usr -name "drivers" |
| 02:00.00 | freeone3000 | BiRDmw: What menu? |
| 02:00.05 | deadcat | BiRDmw: you dont. |
| 02:00.05 | freeone3000 | BiRDmw: Which menu, rather. |
| 02:00.09 | Teuxe | hem _Atomo64_ hard (lol): find /usr -name "*drivers*" |
| 02:00.10 | BiRDmw | KDE |
| 02:00.13 | chuckyp | BiRDmw, kismet is not an x app |
| 02:00.22 | BiRDmw | oh |
| 02:00.28 | freeone3000 | K->run command... type in "kismet". |
| 02:00.29 | yawg | freeone3000: a self compiled kernel won't run into the same errors i'm having with apt-get? |
| 02:00.32 | BiRDmw | I see |
| 02:00.37 | freeone3000 | yawg: I don't think it will. |
| 02:00.41 | chuckyp | BiRDmw, you might be able to find a frontend for it though. |
| 02:00.44 | freeone3000 | yawg: If it's apt that's complaining at you. |
| 02:00.52 | Acid`X | deadcat: hehe the link is the same guy from deviant art and redirects to it http://www.studiotwentyeight.com/index2.htm |
| 02:00.53 | yawg | freeone3000: ok, thanks. i'll begin teaching myself how to compile a kernel |
| 02:00.59 | *** join/#debian AlexW (n=alexw@adsl-46-159.swiftdsl.com.au) |
| 02:01.00 | deadcat | resiak: i dont have problem here. |
| 02:01.04 | yawg | freeone3000: it's dpkg i think |
| 02:01.12 | AlexW | How do i set a network interface speed |
| 02:01.13 | deadcat | Acid`X: ok |
| 02:01.14 | yawg | freeone3000: apt tells me dpkg ran out of memory i think |
| 02:01.14 | resiak | deadcat: Admittedly, logging out and in fixed it. |
| 02:01.15 | freeone3000 | yawg: ./configure; make; make install; |
| 02:01.17 | BiRDmw | chuckyp: that is fine I can text it |
| 02:01.22 | yawg | freeone3000: it's that easy? |
| 02:01.28 | AlexW | e.g. its 100 now, i want it as 10 |
| 02:01.30 | yawg | freeone3000: what file do i need to download first? |
| 02:01.30 | freeone3000 | yawg: Should be. |
| 02:01.33 | deadcat | resiak: what app was that from? |
| 02:01.37 | Acid`X | deadcat: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/27270888/ |
| 02:01.40 | freeone3000 | yawg: File*s*. Teh entire kernel source. |
| 02:01.44 | resiak | deadcat: Everything... killed most of my apps ;) |
| 02:01.49 | yawg | freeone3000: the .gz file? |
| 02:01.53 | deadcat | resiak: hehe. |
| 02:01.54 | yawg | freeone3000: on kernel.org ? |
| 02:01.57 | freeone3000 | yawg: apt-get install linux-source-<version-no> |
| 02:02.01 | yawg | oh |
| 02:02.06 | *** part/#debian RafaelNunes (n=RafaelNu@201-34-197-85.bsaco700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 02:02.09 | freeone3000 | yawg: Or that. That should work. |
| 02:02.17 | deadcat | resiak: maybe they were still 2.6.7 and when you installed 3.7.4 ... |
| 02:02.33 | resiak | Yeah |
| 02:02.34 | *** join/#debian broadcast (n=posix@242.Red-81-33-4.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 02:02.38 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe: nothing |
| 02:02.49 | deadcat | Acid`X: too blue... |
| 02:02.50 | resiak | deadcat: Makes workrave look odd |
| 02:02.59 | Teuxe | hem dont know _Atomo64_ sorry |
| 02:03.05 | Acid`X | deadcat: i can fix that hehe :p |
| 02:03.15 | deadcat | Acid`X: nah. i like the autum one. that rocks. |
| 02:03.21 | Teuxe | moreover im sleepy :( |
| 02:03.25 | *** join/#debian RafaelNunes (n=RafaelNu@201-34-197-85.bsaco700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 02:03.29 | deadcat | resiak: use this gtkrc file. |
| 02:03.34 | Teuxe | 3:00 AM here |
| 02:03.43 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe: do you think that upgrading to etch would do it? |
| 02:04.02 | Teuxe | which version do you have _Atomo64_? |
| 02:04.14 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe: sarge |
| 02:04.24 | Teuxe | _Atomo64_ i dont think so |
| 02:04.27 | deadcat | resiak: http://sshonly.sytes.net/config/home/deadcat/.themes/ob3.abs.opus.os/gtk-2.0/gtkrc not as bright as default |
| 02:04.28 | _Atomo64_ | Teuxe: with the updates from security |
| 02:04.54 | Teuxe | probably something not big _Atomo64_ |
| 02:05.06 | resiak | deadcat: Oh, I like the brightness. Workrave just lacks borders. |
| 02:05.10 | yawg | freeone3000: should i go with 2.6.14 or 2.6.15 ? what is the difference? |
| 02:05.11 | Teuxe | but i dont find out what |
| 02:05.12 | deadcat | oh |
| 02:05.22 | freeone3000 | yawg: 2.6.15 |
| 02:05.37 | Teuxe | yawg difference is version ;) |
| 02:05.39 | freeone3000 | yawg: The diffrence is that it's faster by .001 and it supports .001% more hardware. |
| 02:05.56 | yawg | hehe, ok thanks again. |
| 02:06.05 | AlexW | is it possible to set the network card speed? |
| 02:06.07 | Teuxe | freeone3000 really faster? |
| 02:06.23 | freeone3000 | Teuxe: It should be, otherwise why would they bump the version number? |
| 02:06.24 | Teuxe | AlexW ?? |
| 02:06.31 | freeone3000 | AlexW: I'm sure it is. |
| 02:06.39 | AlexW | How can I do it? |
| 02:06.47 | freeone3000 | AlexW: man interface |
| 02:06.53 | AlexW | thankls |
| 02:06.55 | AlexW | thanks* |
| 02:06.56 | SimonRaven | interfaces |
| 02:06.57 | Teuxe | freeone3000 for linus to say "hey i'm still alive" |
| 02:07.05 | freeone3000 | Yeah, what simonraven said. |
| 02:07.13 | freeone3000 | Teuxe: ...It should do SOMETHING. |
| 02:07.18 | freeone3000 | Teuxe: Wait, he's still alive? |
| 02:07.23 | *** join/#debian funktion (i=med@syru126-143.syr.edu) |
| 02:07.24 | Teuxe | lol |
| 02:07.31 | ke6isf | freeone3000: Well, yeah, and he's living in San Jose, I think. |
| 02:07.43 | AlexW | no manual entry |
| 02:07.44 | Teuxe | AlexW what do you want to do exactly? |
| 02:07.48 | pngwn | he moved to oregon |
| 02:07.57 | AlexW | set the network card speed to 10mbps fullduplex |
| 02:07.58 | freeone3000 | ...now you got "the way to San Jose" stuck in my head next to "Master of Puppets" |
| 02:08.02 | obscuresoul | the package iptables is the successor of the package ipchains? |
| 02:08.06 | freeone3000 | Alex: `man interfaces' |
| 02:08.17 | Teuxe | AlexW: it is currently to? |
| 02:08.20 | *** join/#debian GooZ (n=postmast@3.Red-80-25-124.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 02:08.37 | Teuxe | yes obscuresoul |
| 02:08.39 | freeone3000 | AlexW: I would think that's more router setup, though. |
| 02:09.43 | AlexW | its at 100mbps |
| 02:09.48 | AlexW | but it seems i cannot connect at 100 |
| 02:09.55 | AlexW | same happened with another computer |
| 02:09.58 | AlexW | had to edit it to 10 |
| 02:10.00 | AlexW | and it worked |
| 02:10.27 | obscuresoul | Teuxe so if i'm using kernel 2.6.x i should only use the iptables, right? |
| 02:10.40 | AlexW | i dont see an option for interfaces |
| 02:10.48 | Teuxe | obscuresoul just use iptables it's better |
| 02:11.47 | BiRDmw | gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing 'gtk+-2.0.pc' to the path PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a non-standard prefix so pkg-config can find them,, phew! |
| 02:11.48 | obscuresoul | Teuxe ok tks ;) |
| 02:11.54 | Teuxe | hem by the way, what did you think about linus saying "use KDE"? |
| 02:12.46 | resiak | BiRDmw: apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev, or similar |
| 02:13.00 | freeone3000 | Teuxe: I like it. |
| 02:13.08 | freeone3000 | Teuxe: Although KDE is a bit heavy, I like its tools. |
| 02:13.37 | Teuxe | freeone3000 I find it useful too but more and more heavy :( |
| 02:13.37 | freeone3000 | Teuxe: AfterStep is my favorite, although gnome DOES kinda suck. The guy maintaining it for debian suggested it to be removed. |
| 02:14.12 | Teuxe | remove what? |
| 02:14.21 | Teuxe | AfterStep or Gnome? |
| 02:14.23 | freeone3000 | GNOME. |
| 02:14.36 | Teuxe | :'( why? |
| 02:15.01 | mbishop | window maker |
| 02:15.12 | Acid`X | deadcat: ty for all the info :] |
| 02:15.33 | *** join/#debian dadexter (n=dadexter@modemcable152.209-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 02:16.01 | *** join/#debian Nowak (i=nowak@worldwind/developer/Nowak) |
| 02:16.04 | Nowak | dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `httpd-fake' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. |
| 02:16.09 | Nowak | any way to remove that warning ? :P |
| 02:16.17 | deadcat | Acid`X: no problem |
| 02:17.07 | *** join/#debian usr13 (n=gayle@209.144.24.229) |
| 02:17.15 | Teuxe | okay thanks for you all, see ya |
| 02:17.56 | freeone3000 | Nowak: Complain to whoever packaged httpd-fake |
| 02:18.26 | Nowak | freeone3000: its mine, but its ok that it has no files so ... i want that warning off :P |
| 02:18.53 | usr13 | Trying to do network install and having trouble with an "Xircom Cardbus Ethernet" adapter, (it's a laptop). It appears to have loaded up, I can assign it an ipaddress and ping that ipaddress, but it won't talk to anything outside. |
| 02:18.53 | freeone3000 | Nowak: Include files. |
| 02:19.08 | Nowak | freeone3000: there are no files ... |
| 02:19.19 | freeone3000 | Nowak: And therein lies your problem. |
| 02:19.23 | Nowak | its empty package to satisfy dumb httpd deps |
| 02:19.38 | freeone3000 | So ignore it. Tis a warning. |
| 02:19.57 | freeone3000 | Or include something placed in /dev/null on installation. Like a blank text file. |
| 02:19.59 | usr13 | I know the NIC works ok, have been using it on previous install (RH8) which has been on this old laptop for quite some time. |
| 02:20.48 | *** join/#debian priscila (n=priscila@unaffiliated/prinewgirl) |
| 02:20.49 | usr13 | I've tested the cat5 cable, hooked it up to another computer and works fine, ... hook it back up to the new Debian laptop and nothing. |
| 02:20.52 | liable | usr13: te route is ok? |
| 02:20.56 | usr13 | What could be causing this? |
| 02:20.56 | liable | the. |
| 02:21.15 | usr13 | yes, I've manually set network configuration. |
| 02:21.31 | usr13 | "route add default gw 192.168.1.xx |
| 02:21.49 | liable | can you ping the router? |
| 02:21.57 | usr13 | but it will not ping the gateway or anthing else |
| 02:22.07 | *** part/#debian RafaelNunes (n=RafaelNu@unaffiliated/rafaelnunes) |
| 02:22.51 | usr13 | I unplugged the same cable, plugged it into this one, and continued to access the internet, so, it's not the cable.... |
| 02:22.59 | usr13 | I'm just kind-of stumped |
| 02:23.13 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (n=jetscrea@ppp-70-242-3-182.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 02:23.25 | *** join/#debian wolaoye (i=hja123@bb219-74-24-214.singnet.com.sg) |
| 02:23.45 | usr13 | Can't see any reason why it wouldn't work, unless it's something particular to a debian install that I''m not aware of. (I'm new to debian) |
| 02:24.25 | wolaoye | cannot run scim. problem with loading x11 frontend module. anyone can help to fix this? |
| 02:24.39 | *** join/#debian Red_Cloud (n=wterrell@dpc67142211174.direcpc.com) |
| 02:24.39 | *** join/#debian ltl (n=bob@216-43-79-170.dsl.mcleodusa.net) |
| 02:24.49 | usr13 | I plug in the cable, and it lights up on both ends.. |
| 02:25.21 | usr13 | Sure would like to install debian on this old machine. |
| 02:25.54 | ke6isf | !tell usr13 -about enter |
| 02:26.09 | alolex | (chirp) |
| 02:26.13 | freeone3000 | !tell tell about tell |
| 02:26.30 | liable | usr13: but both ifconfig and route outputs look ok? |
| 02:26.37 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@222.67.233.143) |
| 02:26.55 | stoned | !tell |
| 02:27.04 | stoned | oh damn msg spam |
| 02:27.08 | stoned | hey that rhymed |
| 02:27.19 | *** join/#debian vdh (n=vhillier@aux.lansystems.ca) |
| 02:27.58 | *** join/#debian ideal (n=idealm_@222.67.233.143) |
| 02:29.44 | *** join/#debian comsa (n=eddy_ami@katax1-034.dialup.optusnet.com.au) |
| 02:30.09 | Red_Cloud | I need help configuring xrog.conf. My distro is testing. The file refers to the man page for XF86Config-4 but that man file is not on my system. Could some please paste bin a copy of the man page for XF86Config-4 so that I might glom onto it. I cannot find it on the internet anywhere |
| 02:30.24 | Acid`X | Red_Cloud: Xord |
| 02:30.28 | Acid`X | man xorg |
| 02:30.33 | freeone3000 | Acid`X: Xorg |
| 02:30.41 | Acid`X | freeone3000: hehe ty :p |
| 02:30.44 | Acid`X | !xorg |
| 02:30.44 | dpkg | methinks xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.0. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg |
| 02:31.06 | freeone3000 | !#xorg |
| 02:31.08 | Acid`X | Red_Cloud: you can use the xorg config tool |
| 02:31.12 | usr13 | Red_Cloud, do you have a Knoppix CD on hand? |
| 02:32.09 | Red_Cloud | Acid'X That is wonderful news. I did not know that a xorg.config tool existed. What is the name of the file and where would it be located on my directory. |
| 02:32.57 | usr13 | Red_Cloud: a member of my LUG uses Debian and says that the Knoppix hardware detection is second to none and that you can boot a Knoppix CD and then just copy the xorg.conf to the HD, (sounds like a rather easy fix). [just FYI] |
| 02:33.53 | kyncani | Red_Cloud: what about dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or X -configure ? |
| 02:34.03 | Acid`X | Red_Cloud: the file for xorg is /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 02:34.34 | Acid`X | Red_Cloud: and the tool i dont remember the name, let me check |
| 02:34.54 | alolex | holy jesus... |
| 02:35.05 | deadcat | alolex: you called me? |
| 02:35.08 | Acid`X | alolex: is he alive? ;o |
| 02:35.11 | alolex | i just installed e17 and it looks awesome |
| 02:35.12 | Acid`X | LOL |
| 02:35.14 | yawg | deadcat: HAR HAR!!! |
| 02:35.34 | *** join/#debian mkhl (i=mkhl@200-148-41-120.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 02:35.46 | yawg | z0mg i'm in tears from that one, you should pursue a career in comedy! |
| 02:35.47 | alolex | even the intro is godly |
| 02:35.55 | deadcat | alolex: screenshot time |
| 02:35.59 | Acid`X | deadcat: jesus uses linux, in god i trust now! |
| 02:36.03 | Red_Cloud | Acid'X I have been looking at xorg.conf and it refers to the XF86Config-4 for the different options that would be used in the xorg.conf file. I need to know the option to use for a USB keyboard and USB mouse. |
| 02:36.24 | alolex | deadcat i'll be sitting here all night logging in and out :P |
| 02:36.28 | deadcat | Acid`X: i know jesus martinez does use linux (= |
| 02:36.30 | Red_Cloud | Also I need to know the option to use for a regular keyboard US |
| 02:36.33 | deadcat | Acid`X: not sure about christ |
| 02:36.39 | Acid`X | deadcat: lol |
| 02:36.42 | deadcat | alolex: HAHAHAH |
| 02:37.24 | Red_Cloud | kyncani, I have tried dpgk-reconfigure but cannot connect with the x server |
| 02:38.03 | deadcat | this man WILL amaze you: |
| 02:38.22 | kyncani | Red_Cloud: any error message ? Checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 02:38.30 | *** join/#debian xapaho (n=xapaho@bdv75-4-82-226-115-75.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 02:38.37 | *** join/#debian teasxc (n=teasxc@par69-4-82-226-64-86.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 02:38.47 | *** part/#debian teasxc (n=teasxc@par69-4-82-226-64-86.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 02:39.09 | Acid`X | Red_Cloud: did u tried xorgconfig? |
| 02:39.29 | Red_Cloud | kyncani, cannot load xtt file |
| 02:39.30 | *** part/#debian ltl (n=bob@216-43-79-170.dsl.mcleodusa.net) |
| 02:39.51 | kyncani | Red_Cloud: well, you may try X -configure, with any luck |
| 02:40.51 | kyncani | Red_Cloud: you'll also want to google the exact xtt error message |
| 02:41.30 | Red_Cloud | Acid'X I cannot remember if I tried xorgconfig, but I believe that I have. I will log into my Linux and try it. And kyncani I will also try X -configure but I think that I have tried that and the result was that i could not connect to my X server. But I will try again. I will be back in a short with the results. Thanks for the help. |
| 02:42.00 | xapaho | help! pls -- i had a fine working ntldr-based multiboot system, m$ planet (hda1) and linux galaxy (grub on hda2, w/ ubuntu and fedora, so far). I installed sarge and let it fomat my /boot (I know, I am an idiot). Since then grub prints endless "GRUB GRUB GRUB..." messages |
| 02:42.05 | Acid`X | Red_Cloud: get irssi or something and log to the channel if u have troubles |
| 02:42.20 | deadcat | !drxx Red_Cloud |
| 02:42.21 | dpkg | Red_Cloud: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:42.23 | ke6isf | What is /dev/raw1394? =O.o= |
| 02:42.53 | deadcat | firewire stuff? |
| 02:43.25 | Red_Cloud | Acid'X I am not able to use irssi because of lack of internet connectivity and X server |
| 02:43.42 | freeone3000 | irssi is commandline, is it not? |
| 02:43.51 | Acid`X | freeone3000: yes |
| 02:44.00 | deadcat | internet connectivity == internet connection |
| 02:44.02 | Red_Cloud | dpkg, I have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 with the result that I cannot connect to the X server |
| 02:44.26 | Acid`X | Red_Cloud: you have xorg, not xfree86, thats why is not working |
| 02:44.27 | freeone3000 | dpkg-reconfigure whatever-they-call-the-base-debian-thing |
| 02:44.35 | freeone3000 | Or that. Tha'ts smarter. |
| 02:44.41 | freeone3000 | Ignore me, I don't know what I'm talking about. |
| 02:46.01 | Red_Cloud | freeone3000 at present I am not able to connect to the internet in command line. to install irssi It was not a package that i had installed on my system, Wish I had it installed |
| 02:46.20 | Red_Cloud | Be back in a few |
| 02:46.31 | Acid`X | weird |
| 02:48.28 | *** join/#debian jubo1 (n=cspenc@boku.Stanford.EDU) |
| 02:50.07 | *** join/#debian lilo (i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin) |
| 02:51.44 | jubo1 | hi, i am doing an upgrade from woody to sarge on an old machine and I am hitting a wall with netkit-inetd, which a lot of packages are depending on. It fails giving the subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 from aptitude. any idea where I should start? |
| 02:51.50 | *** join/#debian dadexter (n=dadexter@modemcable152.209-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 02:52.00 | SimonRaven | the bts |
| 02:52.24 | freeone3000 | ...We had a distro version called 'woody'? |
| 02:52.41 | SimonRaven | !woody |
| 02:52.41 | dpkg | it has been said that woody is the previous stable release of Debian, version 3.0, released July 19, 2002. Ask me about "woody->sarge" or "sarge install guide" Security updates for woody will cease approximately one year after sarge's release(July/2006) |
| 02:52.42 | Acid`X | freeone3000: yes |
| 02:52.57 | dadexter | there was also one called potato |
| 02:53.05 | SimonRaven | !hamm |
| 02:53.06 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, hamm is Debian 2.0, released for i386 and m68k (first multi-arch release), or released July 24, 1998 |
| 02:53.10 | SimonRaven | !buzz |
| 02:53.10 | dpkg | it has been said that buzz is Debian 1.1, released June 1996 (474 packages, 2.0 kernel, fully ELF, dpkg) |
| 02:53.21 | freeone3000 | ...potato not exactly what I think of when I think of linux. |
| 02:53.24 | SimonRaven | !slink |
| 02:53.24 | dpkg | Slink (Debian 2.1) was released March 1999. It is no longer supported. Ask me about slink->potato. |
| 02:53.54 | freeone3000 | So basically, you have to go slink->potato->woody->sarge. |
| 02:54.03 | dadexter | freeone3000, honestly, neither is woody :P |
| 02:54.07 | freeone3000 | Anything before slink and you have to reinstall the entire OS. |
| 02:54.16 | Acid`X | and etch after this sarge ;P |
| 02:54.23 | freeone3000 | Etch? |
| 02:54.27 | freeone3000 | I might still be running sarge... |
| 02:54.30 | jubo1 | woody worked great for me. I hadn't rebooted this system since 2003 |
| 02:54.38 | jubo1 | just security updates |
| 02:54.49 | freeone3000 | How can I tell? |
| 02:55.06 | Acid`X | freeone3000: etch is testing |
| 02:55.17 | freeone3000 | Acid`X: I'm testing. |
| 02:55.27 | Acid`X | freeone3000: well you are runing etch hehe |
| 02:55.58 | freeone3000 | Acid`X: Ah, okay. |
| 02:56.01 | SimonRaven | freeone3000: sarge is the current release |
| 02:56.09 | Acid`X | testing is the succesor of the current stable, the only one thats not going to be released is sid |
| 02:56.12 | freeone3000 | ...Who uses stable? |
| 02:56.18 | freeone3000 | Acid`X: What's 'sid'? |
| 02:56.23 | freeone3000 | Acid`X: What comes out after etch? |
| 02:56.29 | Acid`X | freeone3000: ppl that run stable production servers |
| 02:56.33 | *** join/#debian diana (n=diana@unaffiliated/kerplunk) |
| 02:56.34 | deadcat | if i have a dedicated server. i would use stable. |
| 02:56.40 | diana | dondelelcaro: This channel is +r again |
| 02:56.59 | freeone3000 | Okay. So everyone who's NOT running a dedicated server is not using stable. |
| 02:57.18 | Acid`X | freeone3000: probably yes ;P |
| 02:57.33 | dadexter | and anyone not using stable is not running a dedicated server? |
| 02:57.57 | freeone3000 | dadexter: Also true. Contrapositive. Learned that in geom. :) |
| 02:58.29 | xapaho | anyone can help me about grub install by sarge please? is this not the right channel to ask ? |
| 02:58.41 | freeone3000 | apt-get install grub? |
| 02:58.48 | jubo1 | is there a place to see the root cause of errors for why netkit-inetd would cause aptitude to fail |
| 02:58.54 | freeone3000 | Shoulda been installed with debian, I think... |
| 02:59.15 | xapaho | freeone3000: i had a fine working ntldr-based multiboot system, m$ planet (hda1) and linux galaxy (grub on hda2, w/ ubuntu and fedora, so far). I installed sarge and let it fomat my /boot (I know, I am an idiot). Since then grub prints endless "GRUB GRUB GRUB..." messages |
| 02:59.18 | *** join/#debian diana (n=diana@unaffiliated/kerplunk) |
| 02:59.56 | freeone3000 | xapaho: So let it autodetect your OSs. |
| 03:00.09 | xapaho | freeone3000: I did (?) |
| 03:00.24 | freeone3000 | xapaho: And you answered "yes" to the question about if it should install grub to the MBR? |
| 03:00.25 | *** join/#debian parsek_77 (n=barbaros@cpe-24-195-34-135.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:00.44 | xapaho | freeone3000: nope, I want to keep grub on my hda2 |
| 03:01.10 | freeone3000 | ...It has to be put on the MBR, otherwise how would it know to use it to boot? |
| 03:01.22 | freeone3000 | (MBR == Master Boot Record, first someodd cylanders) |
| 03:01.50 | parsek_77 | hi all. what is the easy way to install java plugin for mozilla on debian 3.1(stable)? do i need to install the full java stuff? |
| 03:02.12 | freeone3000 | Yeah, I think. |
| 03:02.20 | freeone3000 | But don't get gij. Get sun's java, or Blackdown. |
| 03:02.28 | xapaho | I boot on hda1 (ntldr), then chain load from there to hda2. that was working fine so far, I was reaching the menu and could select my linux os |
| 03:02.44 | freeone3000 | xapaho: Then it's installed to the MBR and all is good. |
| 03:02.47 | *** part/#debian gnufan (n=srw@84-45-158-52.no-dns-yet.enta.net) |
| 03:02.55 | usr13 | what could be the problem with using this Xircom Cardbus Ethernet controller? |
| 03:03.18 | freeone3000 | usr13: Is there a problem? |
| 03:03.25 | usr13 | does debain have some known problems with pcmci NICs? |
| 03:03.42 | xapaho | freeone3000: no, may I insist :) grub is not installed on the mbr, ntldr is -- grub is on hda2 |
| 03:03.59 | usr13 | freeone3000: It appears to load up ok, I can even ping it, but nothing more. |
| 03:04.49 | Stevie | 'nothing more'? |
| 03:04.49 | usr13 | (Trying to do network install here). |
| 03:04.58 | freeone3000 | It's got something in the MBR... |
| 03:05.02 | freeone3000 | Ah well. No arguments. |
| 03:05.09 | usr13 | Stevie: yes, noting more. Can not ping anything on the outside. |
| 03:05.12 | freeone3000 | Hey. My cursor is black. Just noticed that. Anyway... |
| 03:05.22 | freeone3000 | It's printing "GRUB GRUB GRUB"? |
| 03:05.32 | Stevie | feed it |
| 03:05.36 | Stevie | it must be hungry |
| 03:05.37 | *** join/#debian xpowerstudios (n=xpowerst@ua-83-227-160-21.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 03:05.48 | xapaho | freeone3000: yes, it is -- it fills entire screens with that message |
| 03:06.06 | freeone3000 | xapaho: May I say WTF? |
| 03:06.13 | Matt-H | why not stick grub on the MBR and use that instead of ntldr? |
| 03:06.25 | xapaho | Stevie: I am hungry, actually -- txs to remind me ;) |
| 03:06.29 | Stevie | haha |
| 03:06.59 | MatBoy | someone using openfiler here ? |
| 03:07.00 | xapaho | Matt-H: because then m$ is happy in any circumstances -- and I still can boot when grub f*ck up, I think we have a case here, actually :) |
| 03:07.12 | freeone3000 | And you have bootable disks, xapho? |
| 03:07.21 | Matt-H | well my dual boot boxes are fine with grub and no ntldr. |
| 03:07.36 | Matt-H | you can't still boot when ntldr breaks though ;) |
| 03:07.39 | freeone3000 | xapaho: Only related thing I could find, and it's TH... |
| 03:08.01 | xapaho | freeone3000: never needed boot disks for ages, I even wonder if the floppy is working -- that boot method did prevent me the need so far -- what is TH ?? |
| 03:08.33 | *** part/#debian intgr (n=not@2001:7d0:0:f2de:0:0:0:1) |
| 03:08.41 | *** join/#debian quadrata (n=quadrata@ool-457718a8.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:08.47 | quadrata | ding dong |
| 03:08.59 | xapaho | Matt-H: if ntldr was dead, then I could easily make hda2 active, right ? :) |
| 03:09.36 | xapaho | freeone3000: what do u mean by TH ?? |
| 03:09.41 | Matt-H | xapaho: just saying, I have no problems with binning ntldr and just using grub - it's fine on my 250 machines at work. |
| 03:10.03 | alolex | I just use my bios as my "boot menu" by switching between first boot device of hda0 and hda1 :D |
| 03:10.12 | freeone3000 | How would I go about installing true-type fonts? |
| 03:10.20 | deadcat | apt-get |
| 03:10.35 | freeone3000 | deadcat: And if the ones I want arn't in there, but I have them from somewhere else? |
| 03:10.48 | deadcat | freeone3000: downlaod them to ~/.fonts/ |
| 03:10.53 | valdyn | freeone3000: copy them to ~/.fonts/ |
| 03:10.55 | freeone3000 | deadcat: Ah, okay. Thank you. |
| 03:11.03 | freeone3000 | ...That was too easy. |
| 03:11.13 | freeone3000 | Do I need to restart x or does it automatically load them? |
| 03:11.13 | deadcat | freeone3000: ya. too bad no one told me long time ago )= |
| 03:11.17 | xapaho | Matt-H: I'm sure it would be fine that way too. In my case, if I have to re-install m$ (it's a dev/test server), then with my way I don't need to re-install grub, that's all. |
| 03:11.35 | freeone3000 | do something. |
| 03:11.48 | freeone3000 | Sorry, messing with the bot. |
| 03:11.56 | jubo1 | alright woody->sarge mission complete |
| 03:12.09 | deadcat | jubo1: about time (= |
| 03:12.18 | freeone3000 | So your woody is now a sarge. |
| 03:12.23 | valdyn | freeone3000: X does not know about these fonts, your apps do, if you have to even restart the app depends on the app |
| 03:12.32 | jubo1 | don't fix what ain't broken I say |
| 03:12.35 | *** join/#debian Thanatermesis (n=Elive@unaffiliated/thanatermesis) |
| 03:12.36 | freeone3000 | valdyn: Okay, thank you for that. Now, I have learned something. |
| 03:12.48 | *** join/#debian execve (n=bann3d@125.22.2.17) |
| 03:12.48 | *** join/#debian Jester (n=naju@unaffiliated/jester) |
| 03:12.49 | Thanatermesis | any person know's about the bootsplash patch for 2.6.15 ? |
| 03:12.52 | *** part/#debian Jester (n=naju@unaffiliated/jester) |
| 03:12.59 | quadrata | bootsplash! heh |
| 03:13.02 | deadcat | Thanatermesis: no. no one use that crap anymore |
| 03:13.03 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 03:13.24 | *** join/#debian Jester (n=naju@unaffiliated/jester) |
| 03:13.42 | deadcat | Thanatermesis: if you just want some image during startup and shutdown, check #splashy |
| 03:14.06 | Thanatermesis | deadcat why crap ? i like to have wallpapers in the pure console :) |
| 03:14.27 | freeone3000 | kernel-patch-bootsplash and others showing up look nice. |
| 03:14.32 | deadcat | Thanatermesis: ya. me too. but there are better ones than bootsplash. thats why i say its crap. (= |
| 03:14.41 | deadcat | freeone3000: those are old as fuck |
| 03:14.41 | freeone3000 | Never underestimate the power of apt-cache search |
| 03:14.49 | freeone3000 | deadcat: Yes. But they're easy. |
| 03:14.54 | *** join/#debian comsa (n=eddy_ami@katax1-034.dialup.optusnet.com.au) |
| 03:15.00 | quadrata | deadcat, there's newer ones at bootsplash.de |
| 03:15.01 | deadcat | freeone3000: old as fuck mean for old ass kernels |
| 03:15.11 | quadrata | and the code is kept up to date there, I think |
| 03:15.14 | deadcat | quadrata: that guy havent update that page in a while i thought he was dead |
| 03:15.23 | quadrata | bootsplashe.de? |
| 03:15.26 | freeone3000 | deadcat: Ah, mmkay. |
| 03:15.28 | jubo1 | now I just need to decide to upgrade my 2.4.25 -> 2.6 |
| 03:15.32 | Thanatermesis | hehe, ok then deadcat... mmmh, do you know if splashy supports "wallpapers" ? |
| 03:15.39 | Thanatermesis | no just boot images |
| 03:15.39 | quadrata | woops, bootsplashe.de |
| 03:15.44 | deadcat | quadrata: check it. used to have a page. now its just dir listing |
| 03:15.56 | quadrata | grr, I did the typo twice ;P |
| 03:16.15 | Thanatermesis | yes quadrata... but i just look for the 2.6.12 :/ |
| 03:16.20 | deadcat | Thanatermesis: no. it doesnt support wallpaper. splashy only covers the boot mesages. maybe in the future. those guys are slow too |
| 03:16.33 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
| 03:16.36 | quadrata | deadcat, try this: http://www.bootsplash.de/ |
| 03:16.50 | freeone3000 | kernel-patch-debianlogo better? |
| 03:16.56 | deadcat | quadrata: i just did. that were i get the patch when i used bootsplash |
| 03:17.01 | xapaho | freeone3000: Matt-H: sorry guys, I should have thought to googled "GRUB GRUB GRUB" as a litteral expression !! seems like it's a well known issue indeed -- txs and seeya later |
| 03:17.07 | deadcat | freeone3000: no. that only replace the penguin with the debian logo |
| 03:17.20 | freeone3000 | deadcat: Penguin? |
| 03:17.22 | *** join/#debian jsubl2 (n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33) |
| 03:17.57 | freeone3000 | Matrix... schweet. |
| 03:17.57 | deadcat | freeone3000: yes. the penguin on the top left which represents the number of cpu you have. if you use debian kern. you dont see it. |
| 03:17.59 | freeone3000 | I want that one. |
| 03:18.15 | Thanatermesis | yohooo, 2.6.15 ! thanks quadrata, i have just say without the "www" ;) |
| 03:18.18 | freeone3000 | deadcat: So it'll just show "1"? |
| 03:18.19 | usr13 | Still tring to make this NIC work, (so I can finish the network install, have only base system installed). |
| 03:18.20 | obscuresoul | does gnome comes with metacity? |
| 03:18.30 | Thanatermesis | freeone3000 this is from a 2.4.18 kernel, hehe |
| 03:18.38 | deadcat | freeone3000: no. it shows the tux logo. 1 tux = 1 cpu. |
| 03:18.44 | deadcat | obscuresoul: yes |
| 03:18.49 | quadrata | Thanatermesis, sure |
| 03:18.50 | freeone3000 | deadcat: Ah, so it'll show one deban logo. |
| 03:18.56 | Rune- | anyone know what iptables module i need for --state ? |
| 03:19.09 | deadcat | thats not console. thats xscreensaver with the matrix theme running in the root of X. |
| 03:19.19 | usr13 | I've found that I can hook up a crossover cable to another computer and ping the other's IP adress, I can see the light light up on the dongle, but not getting through to the system. |
| 03:19.23 | freeone3000 | Ooh, where is this matrix theme? |
| 03:19.24 | deadcat | freeone3000: if you patch it yes. |
| 03:19.41 | jubo1 | is there some good documentation on how to install something from unstable into sarge? |
| 03:19.44 | *** join/#debian nemontemi (n=kmurata@unaffiliated/nemontemi) |
| 03:19.50 | *** join/#debian GPLGeek (n=GPLGeek@pdpc/supporter/student/GPLGeek) |
| 03:19.50 | *** join/#debian d4n_ (n=dan@S010608101701172a.ss.shawcable.net) |
| 03:19.51 | freeone3000 | Found it. |
| 03:19.57 | Thanatermesis | deadcat mmmh, not really, the penguin is just "framebuffer logo", bootsplash is for put a "wallpaper in your console" or a thing more used... boot animations, (if i don't have missunderstand you about the "penguin" thing) |
| 03:20.00 | freeone3000 | jubo1: Use etch? |
| 03:20.05 | deadcat | jubo1: just add an unstable entry to sources.list and apt-get install -t unstable packagename |
| 03:20.13 | *** join/#debian diana (n=diana@unaffiliated/kerplunk) |
| 03:20.17 | usr13 | I've found that I can hook up a crossover cable to another computer and ping the other's IP adress, I can see the light light up on the dongle, but not getting through to the system. |
| 03:20.21 | jubo1 | deadcat: will it update all the necessary deps? |
| 03:20.22 | freeone3000 | I want something like the thing they pulled with the gentoo install CD, really. |
| 03:20.22 | obscuresoul | deadcat tks :) |
| 03:20.25 | deadcat | Thanatermesis: ya i know. he was asking about the tux. |
| 03:20.26 | d4n_ | yall have any idea what i can use with debian to open(forewared) ports on my router? |
| 03:20.41 | freeone3000 | Like, termial in the middle, and to the top right larry the cow. |
| 03:20.42 | deadcat | Thanatermesis: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/framebuffer.funs/ |
| 03:20.47 | freeone3000 | d4n_: Use it on your router, not on debian? |
| 03:20.48 | *** join/#debian Tortel (n=scott@c-69-250-79-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 03:20.50 | deadcat | jubo1: ya |
| 03:20.54 | freeone3000 | d4n_: Unless debian IS your router. |
| 03:20.56 | *** join/#debian Krhis (n=Krhis@cblcpe-79-205.suite224.net) |
| 03:20.57 | Thanatermesis | ok, then i have bad understand deadcat :) |
| 03:21.04 | quadrata | ok, so who here can tell me why I should use debian? |
| 03:21.15 | freeone3000 | quadrata: No. |
| 03:21.18 | deadcat | quadrata: no one. you either use it or done |
| 03:21.25 | diana | I just did a fresh install, and I only have the base system plus irssi/screen/gnupg ...and when I do "apt-get install x-window-system xserver-xorg" it tells me it wants to download 52MB in archives and when it's done extracting 124MB of disk space will be used...is this normal...is X this big? |
| 03:21.34 | d4n_ | freeone3000: no the router is external. i was wondering if there was software available? |
| 03:21.40 | Thanatermesis | i have just discover the "fbsplash" name... what is the diference between fbsplash and bootsplash deadcat ? |
| 03:21.44 | deadcat | diana: ya |
| 03:21.45 | quadrata | deadcat, why do you use it? |
| 03:21.50 | freeone3000 | diana: Yes, X and its tools are sorta this big. |
| 03:21.52 | deadcat | diana: try x-window-system-core xterm |
| 03:22.03 | GPLGeek | quadrata, Debian is very stable and easy, we have tons of packages. If you want bleeding edge packages we have testing and unstable (which in my opinion is stable, at least for the moment) |
| 03:22.20 | Thanatermesis | oh... fbsplash is the similar thing to a wallpaper but where you have your console "crop" ? |
| 03:22.21 | *** join/#debian rebellis (n=rebellis@143.107.183.130) |
| 03:22.23 | deadcat | Thanatermesis: fbplash is developed by a gentoo guy. and i couldnt get bootsplash to work on my ibook (= |
| 03:22.24 | freeone3000 | If you want faster than debian, it exists. However, it's called debian. |
| 03:22.39 | deadcat | quadrata: because i am lazy. tahts why i use debian |
| 03:22.39 | quadrata | freeone3000, heh |
| 03:22.42 | freeone3000 | Hmm. Gentoo. Outside Console Crop. I want it. |
| 03:22.44 | quadrata | deadcat, good answer |
| 03:22.45 | freeone3000 | quadrata: **GENTOO |
| 03:22.47 | Thanatermesis | its a patch also ? |
| 03:22.52 | diana | deadcat: nice doing only x-window-system-core xfonts-base xserver-xorg only uses 98MB in disk space. |
| 03:22.52 | quadrata | freeone3000, ick |
| 03:23.03 | quadrata | freeone3000, I only use Gentoo when I have to |
| 03:23.06 | freeone3000 | quadrata: You have to sacrifice speed for ease... |
| 03:23.12 | deadcat | diana: ya. the -core stuff really rocks |
| 03:23.18 | freeone3000 | quadrata: And debian is nice and easy, and fast as well. |
| 03:23.33 | GPLGeek | quadrata, Debian is fast, in testes verses gentoo debian was just as fast. These days you don't really need to compile everything for a specific system. |
| 03:23.47 | quadrata | freeone3000, so it comes down to, * easy, * stable, * fast - is that right? |
| 03:23.51 | deadcat | Thanatermesis: the fbsplash screenshot i have. i dont know why. i think thats because its ppc (= |
| 03:24.13 | Thanatermesis | thanks for the info :) |
| 03:24.14 | diana | cool, fuck that I'm never installing x-window-system again...I forgot about x-window-system-core |
| 03:24.18 | diana | thanks deadcat |
| 03:24.19 | quadrata | you guys seem to assume I'm coming from gentoo-land. ;P |
| 03:24.21 | quadrata | why is that? |
| 03:24.32 | diana | !start a distro war |
| 03:24.32 | dpkg | Knoppix rocks! |
| 03:24.40 | quadrata | hehe |
| 03:24.48 | quadrata | my LiveCD is better :P |
| 03:24.54 | yawg | how big is a kernel-source-2.6.8 after unpacked? i got a "not enough space left on device" error... |
| 03:25.13 | freeone3000 | yawg: Pretty big. |
| 03:25.31 | freeone3000 | yawg: About 300 MB, blind guess. |
| 03:25.40 | yawg | oh.. that's not *too* bad |
| 03:25.48 | yawg | i'll try to find some packages i don't need |
| 03:25.48 | diana | yawg: probably 45+ megs |
| 03:26.03 | *** join/#debian sussudio (i=Ferret@unaffiliated/sussudio) |
| 03:26.11 | diana | yawg: And that's compressed with bzip2, if you uncompress it, it's hdd size will be like 250 megs |
| 03:26.34 | diana | yawg: Do you use gnome or kde, those are disposable, bloated garbage. |
| 03:26.39 | diana | !start a window manager war |
| 03:26.39 | dpkg | wmaker sucks! |
| 03:26.53 | *** join/#debian UdontKnow (i=udontkno@freenode/staff/udontknow) |
| 03:26.54 | freeone3000 | AfterStep... |
| 03:27.12 | freeone3000 | Which brings me to the interesting thing. |
| 03:27.13 | yawg | diana: nope |
| 03:27.26 | diana | yawg: type "apt-get clean" as root. |
| 03:27.32 | yawg | can i remove xfree86 ? |
| 03:27.39 | *** join/#debian Rez (i=lorez@freenode/staff/lorez) |
| 03:27.42 | diana | yawg: then type "df -h" and see how much you have. |
| 03:27.50 | diana | yawg: Have you ever typed "apt-get clean" before? |
| 03:27.54 | yawg | no |
| 03:27.54 | obscuresoul | deadcat by the way, if i install the gnome package i don't need to installed the metacity package? |
| 03:27.59 | diana | yawg: type it now then. |
| 03:28.00 | yawg | k |
| 03:28.19 | deadcat | obscuresoul: ya. it will include all the metacity stuff |
| 03:28.31 | quadrata | gnome needs metacity |
| 03:28.55 | yawg | oh god, /dev/hda2 is 649MB total... |
| 03:29.00 | yawg | i didn't realize it was so small |
| 03:29.19 | yawg | 408 used, 209 free |
| 03:29.33 | diana | yawg: Now you can download the kernel source package. |
| 03:29.38 | diana | yawg: But you can't extract it, heh. |
| 03:30.00 | xapaho | update -- my problem seems to be that menu.lst is corrupted. plus, I know have only 1 set of kernel (out of 3). Can I boot on sarge dvd, just to try re-installing grub ? how about the kernel files that should be on boot ? |
| 03:30.01 | diana | yawg: If you have an external usb thumb drive, it could be very useful right now. |
| 03:30.14 | yawg | diana: this computer is too old for that |
| 03:30.14 | diana | xapaho: As root type "update-grub" |
| 03:30.22 | yawg | diana: i have no usb ports |
| 03:30.26 | deadcat | lot of windows and ubuntu users in this channel. |
| 03:30.33 | diana | yawg: Well we freeded at least 150 megs with that command apt-get clean |
| 03:30.42 | xapaho | diana: txs, but from which shell ? |
| 03:31.00 | yawg | diana: is there a way to compile on a different machine and download the image it creates and just manually mv it to the directory it needs to be? |
| 03:31.02 | diana | xapaho: Then shell that is connected to the box you want to fix grub on. |
| 03:31.12 | diana | yawg: What is your reason for compiling? |
| 03:31.28 | quadrata | what is your reason for not compiling? |
| 03:31.33 | *** join/#debian jdhutchin1 (n=jdhutchi@user-0cdv0h3.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 03:31.42 | diana | quadrata: Because his hdd is very small. |
| 03:31.42 | xapaho | diana: I have none right now, can't boot any linux distro because my grub is corrupted ("GRUB GRUB GRUB..." messsages) |
| 03:31.59 | yawg | diana: i tried to apt-get install linux-kernel-2.6-386 but it gives errors |
| 03:32.02 | xapaho | diana: can I use sarge dvd to boot ? |
| 03:32.12 | diana | xapaho: So pop in a knoppix livecd, chroot to your hd?? and then install-grub and update-grub |
| 03:32.14 | deadcat | plenty of reasons not to compile, lazy, impatient are my top 2 |
| 03:32.19 | yawg | diana: and the errors it gave looked like memory errors, looks like they are *also* space related |
| 03:32.32 | xapaho | diana: ok, txs, seeya later |
| 03:32.36 | diana | yawg: Does it still give errors? |
| 03:32.41 | yawg | diana: yeah |
| 03:32.43 | usr13 | I'm thinking I may have discovered what might be the problem. I am behind two layers of NAT. This doesn't seem to effect other machines, but this Debian box seems to have a problem. |
| 03:32.54 | yawg | diana: i have 14MB RAM total |
| 03:33.07 | diana | yawg: What is your reasoning for compiling your own kernel, what is the ultimate goal here? |
| 03:33.10 | Thanatermesis | uh, where is the patch of fbsplash ? |
| 03:33.11 | deadcat | execve: hello. |
| 03:33.20 | yawg | diana: someone else in this channel suggested it |
| 03:33.31 | yawg | diana: since using apt-get to do it wasn't working |
| 03:33.34 | *** part/#debian xapaho (n=xapaho@bdv75-4-82-226-115-75.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 03:33.45 | usr13 | I can eventually ping another machine.... I realize that was a hasty assumption. As I was saying, I can eventuall ping another machine, but it's very slow, very long ping times. |
| 03:33.45 | yawg | maybe if i free up some hard drive space it will work in apt-get |
| 03:33.49 | deadcat | Thanatermesis: you have to find it from a gentoo forum. |
| 03:33.56 | diana | yawg: So you want to install a new kernel? do you know which version your aiming for? |
| 03:33.57 | obscuresoul | deadcat so why does exists the package metacity separated from the gnome package? |
| 03:34.06 | yawg | diana: 2.6.8 |
| 03:34.33 | deadcat | obscuresoul: because you can use metacity without all the gnome crap. |
| 03:34.33 | diana | yawg: What version of debian, woody/sarge/etch/sid? |
| 03:34.33 | yawg | diana: i need to get my wireless pcmcia card working and i'm on 2.2 now |
| 03:34.34 | yawg | diana: i'm on sarge, but it's the woody kernel still |
| 03:34.35 | deadcat | yawg: no wireless for 2.2 |
| 03:34.40 | Thanatermesis | deadcat yes but "emerge" don't helps me really to download any thing lol |
| 03:34.43 | yawg | deadcat: i know :| |
| 03:34.57 | diana | yawg: So you want the 2.4.x branch or the 2.6.x? |
| 03:35.05 | deadcat | yawg: they didnt even know whats wireless in 2.2 (= |
| 03:35.11 | yawg | diana: either i guess, but some people in here said 2.6 would be better |
| 03:35.20 | diana | yawg: What is in your sources.list? |
| 03:35.24 | Thanatermesis | deadcat for now i don't need to use it, just patch my new kernel... because fbsplash is a patch, correct ? |
| 03:35.41 | diana | yawg: paste your sources.list to #flood |
| 03:35.44 | deadcat | Thanatermesis: ya. but you still need to build some tools to use it though. |
| 03:36.14 | Thanatermesis | deadcat yes, thanks... this is after, i need to make a lot more of work before ;) just prepaire the kernel for now and use after :) |
| 03:36.47 | deadcat | Thanatermesis: i used bootsplash, fbsplash before because my laptop was slow and didnt feel like going X. now i dont need those anymore. although its fun once a while and switch to console though |
| 03:37.00 | obscuresoul | deadcat ok thank you, last question, if i install gnome package and the metacity package, the metacity files will be overwritten? |
| 03:37.23 | deadcat | obscuresoul: its the same package. so it wont let you install. it will say. already latest |
| 03:37.42 | execve | deadcat, hi |
| 03:37.53 | deadcat | obscuresoul: of course unless you make install instead of apt-get then i dont know... it will probably overwrite heheh |
| 03:38.04 | deadcat | execve: thanks for visiting.. i guess (= |
| 03:38.05 | obscuresoul | lol |
| 03:38.09 | obscuresoul | thank you ;) |
| 03:38.21 | execve | deadcat, :) |
| 03:38.36 | execve | welcome |
| 03:38.55 | deadcat | execve: i cant help it.. the word "Firefox/1.0.7 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7) keeps poping up on my root-tail heheh |
| 03:39.44 | execve | eh |
| 03:39.51 | *** join/#debian nerdy2 (n=jeff@adsl-68-21-188-95.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 03:42.24 | quadrata | int execve(const char *filename, char *const argv [], char *const envp[]); |
| 03:42.39 | usr13 | I'm able to ping my gateway, but ping times are ver long, 2000 - 4000 ms |
| 03:42.46 | usr13 | what could be causing this? |
| 03:43.19 | *** join/#debian ElectricElf (n=dbharris@debian/developer/dbharris) |
| 03:43.36 | usr13 | actually, it is from about 1000 to 8000 ms and stalling frequently. |
| 03:43.44 | usr13 | What could be causing this? |
| 03:43.56 | deadcat | usr13: bad network setup? |
| 03:44.31 | usr13 | deadcat: what would need changing? |
| 03:44.42 | usr13 | whould could be bad about my network setup? |
| 03:44.50 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (n=CrazyEdd@203-214-22-24.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 03:44.51 | deadcat | usr13: i cant really tell by just ping. |
| 03:45.12 | usr13 | (when my other computers are running fine on it) |
| 03:45.28 | usr13 | Bad network setup on the debian machine maybe? |
| 03:45.38 | quadrata | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.39 | usr13 | deadcat: what would need changing? |
| 03:45.46 | ke6isf | usr13: Ping really doesn't mean anything. It just means that it's taking eight seconds for the packet to get back. |
| 03:46.03 | *** join/#debian xapaho (n=xapaho@bdv75-4-82-226-115-75.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 03:46.39 | diana | installing subversion is broken in sid, it looks for libneon24 but only libneon25 exists. |
| 03:46.39 | *** join/#debian apeitheo (n=apei@dialup-4.238.147.174.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) |
| 03:46.51 | apeitheo | What would cause wvdial not to bring up the ppp0 interface? |
| 03:46.57 | deadcat | diana: you get what you paid for (= |
| 03:47.12 | usr13 | I would like to continue with [my first debian] network install. |
| 03:47.14 | deadcat | apeitheo: modem works? |
| 03:47.24 | xapaho | diana: trying to foolow ur advice: under knoppix, chroot says it is not allowed to change / dir (?) |
| 03:47.45 | apeitheo | I get up to "--> pid of pppd: 4844" and then it stops on Debian, but on my other computer (Slackware) with the same type of modem, same version of wvdial, the next line after that says "using interface ppp0" and ppp0 is up. |
| 03:47.50 | apeitheo | deadcat, Yup it works |
| 03:47.54 | deadcat | xapaho: mount the hardriver partition, chroot /mntpoint /bin/bash |
| 03:48.05 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:48.20 | apeitheo | deadcat, I think I had this problem a while back with the ppp0 interface in Debian. |
| 03:48.25 | diana | eh, madwifi has a snapshot of the svn from today as a tarball, I'm saved. |
| 03:48.37 | deadcat | apeitheo: have you tried pon instaed? |
| 03:48.39 | apeitheo | deadcat, well, not _this_ problem, but another problem with ppp0 interface |
| 03:48.48 | apeitheo | deadcat, needs to be wvdial. |
| 03:48.51 | deadcat | ah |
| 03:48.57 | usr13 | Tells us there is a problem getting packets through, that it's very slow interaction. |
| 03:49.05 | apeitheo | deadcat, pon works, but I need to use wvdial |
| 03:49.06 | deadcat | apeitheo: i never used wvdial. |
| 03:49.19 | diana | deadcat: Now I have to setup slim, and I always forget the dependencies it needs. :( |
| 03:49.20 | *** join/#debian zOrK (n=eclipse@c-66-176-181-72.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 03:49.21 | apeitheo | ah, okay thanks anyway |
| 03:49.28 | *** part/#debian zOrK (n=eclipse@c-66-176-181-72.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 03:49.30 | deadcat | diana: just use SimonRaven's package. |
| 03:49.32 | apeitheo | anybody else know why my ppp0 interface isn't coming up with wvdial? |
| 03:49.36 | xapaho | diana: it is mounted as /mnt/hda7 with write permissions, no change |
| 03:49.37 | usr13 | I can't connect to ftp.debian.org |
| 03:49.46 | deadcat | diana: i dont remember the packages either. have to trial and error on it. |
| 03:49.58 | usr13 | it's beeing .... wait... it may have just connected! :) |
| 03:50.08 | deadcat | yay |
| 03:50.09 | diana | xapaho: install-grub |
| 03:50.10 | *** join/#debian Holborn (n=holborn@237.Red-217-125-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 03:50.15 | deadcat | !congrad usr13 |
| 03:50.17 | usr13 | But seems to be taking quite a while. |
| 03:50.32 | usr13 | (still "Logging in") |
| 03:50.39 | *** join/#debian pavlovsdog (n=jetscrea@ppp-70-242-3-182.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 03:50.47 | deadcat | usr13: the internet is slow the pass 2 days. |
| 03:50.47 | ke6isf | usr13: Just that. A ping time doesn't mean anything, really, for the purpose - if you really want to test this, sling some data back and forth. |
| 03:51.19 | usr13 | It's slinging now. |
| 03:51.27 | *** join/#debian Penix (n=wenas@unaffiliated/penix) |
| 03:51.29 | Penix | w/in new |
| 03:51.32 | Penix | bah |
| 03:52.58 | deadcat | sure dont want bitch slap? |
| 03:53.03 | usr13 | or NOT slinging... "Failed to access the Debian archive" |
| 03:53.17 | usr13 | What could be causing this "bad network configuration"? |
| 03:53.22 | ke6isf | usr13: Could mean one of three things. Have you tried directly accessing this archive? |
| 03:53.28 | *** join/#debian Flimzy (n=jonhall@ip68-103-164-14.ks.ok.cox.net) |
| 03:53.38 | *** join/#debian dh0 (n=dh0@c-67-164-9-62.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:53.44 | usr13 | is it an anonymous login? |
| 03:53.50 | ke6isf | usr13: I believe so, yes |
| 03:54.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 333] by debhelper |
| 03:54.50 | usr13 | Ok, I just logged into ftp.debian.org with this machine just fine. |
| 03:55.07 | usr13 | I'll try with the maching I'm trying to install to. |
| 03:55.26 | *** join/#debian sixtymhz (n=sixtymhz@cpe-066-057-113-244.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 03:55.46 | usr13 | it says "ftp:command not found" |
| 03:56.01 | ke6isf | usr13: =O.o= |
| 03:56.01 | usr13 | is the command something other than "ftp"? |
| 03:56.40 | ke6isf | usr13: No, it should be just 'ftp'. Is telnet present? |
| 03:57.27 | Flimzy | user13: There are many ftp clients. |
| 03:57.48 | Flimzy | usr13: So naturally, it depends on which one you want to use, and which one is installed |
| 03:57.51 | ke6isf | Flimzy: I think he's at the first stages of an install. |
| 03:58.00 | Flimzy | before the reboot? |
| 03:58.06 | Flimzy | Is there even an ftp client there? I kinda doubt it |
| 03:58.07 | usr13 | Ok, I got an immediate response from this machine, but the one I'm trying to install to is still .... asking... |
| 03:58.09 | ke6isf | usr13: Where in the install are you? |
| 03:58.20 | ke6isf | usr13: Could also be a DNS error. |
| 03:58.29 | usr13 | base system is installed.... |
| 03:58.36 | Flimzy | dns error wouldn't say "ftp: command not found" |
| 03:58.42 | Flimzy | usr13: have you rebooted? |
| 03:58.53 | usr13 | maybe so, but the others are doing ok with dns. |
| 03:59.06 | usr13 | yes I rebooted. |
| 03:59.14 | usr13 | should I reboot again? |
| 03:59.15 | Flimzy | What is the problem you're trying to solve? |
| 03:59.28 | Flimzy | usr13: No, don't reboot again. This isn't Windows. Reboots don't fix anything. |
| 03:59.43 | usr13 | Flimzy: If that is for me... I am trying to install Debian on a laptop. |
| 04:00.04 | Flimzy | That's not a problem.... |
| 04:00.08 | Flimzy | what's the _problem_ you're having? |
| 04:00.09 | usr13 | and have network problem that is only effecting my new Debian laptop. |
| 04:00.14 | *** join/#debian tony_wt (n=tony@dialup-4.131.34.204.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) |
| 04:00.28 | usr13 | The problem that I'm having is very slow ping times. |
| 04:00.31 | Flimzy | what are the symptoms? |
| 04:00.39 | Flimzy | wireless or wired nic? |
| 04:00.55 | usr13 | and it doesn't matter wheather I ping a valid IP address or a domain name. |
| 04:01.18 | usr13 | VERY slow ping times, from 1000 to 8000 ms |
| 04:01.22 | Flimzy | uhm |
| 04:01.26 | Flimzy | something tells me you're not telling the trugh |
| 04:01.36 | Flimzy | With an invalid IP, you won't be able to ping _at all_ |
| 04:02.22 | usr13 | Flimzy: You're stateing the obvious |
| 04:02.38 | tennin | is it safe to stick extra files in /usr/share/doc/foo? |
| 04:02.47 | *** join/#debian _Atomo64_ (n=A64@200.66.17.197) |
| 04:02.52 | tennin | i.e. can they get clobbered when I upgrade foo? |
| 04:02.52 | deadcat | tennin: ya |
| 04:02.55 | usr13 | "not telling the trugh"? |
| 04:02.56 | Flimzy | usr13: Well you stated a lie. YOu said you get slow pings, and it doesn't matter whether you use a valid IP address |
| 04:03.20 | usr13 | Flimzy: Have you been drinking? |
| 04:03.24 | Flimzy | tennin: Uhm... what kind of "extra files" are you talking about? |
| 04:03.30 | usr13 | I stated a lie? |
| 04:03.32 | usr13 | what lie? |
| 04:03.50 | Flimzy | usr13: you said, and I quote "It doesn't matter wheather I ping a valid IP address" |
| 04:03.50 | tennin | in this case, a DVI version of some Texinfo documentation |
| 04:03.56 | ke6isf | Flimzy: dude, chill. |
| 04:04.12 | ke6isf | Flimzy: There's no point in taking that comment out of context. |
| 04:04.18 | tennin | I'm not sure where I should put it |
| 04:04.19 | Flimzy | ke6isf, ? |
| 04:04.38 | Flimzy | tennin: Well I wouldn't put it anywhere that Debian puts stuff... so not in /usr or /var (except /usr/local) |
| 04:04.44 | _Atomo64_ | hey... it's me again... I found something interesting on the x log..."(II) via: driver for VIA chipsets: CLE266, KM400, K8M800" ... but my chipset is a PM800, and in unichrome.sf.net it says it is supported... does anybody knows if the unichrome drivers were updated in etch? |
| 04:04.45 | ke6isf | Flimzy: The rest of the comment is "...or a domain name". |
| 04:05.00 | Flimzy | tennin: Altho the path you sugggested is probably not going to be overwritten, it's still Bad Form(tm) at the very least |
| 04:05.07 | Flimzy | ke6isf: doh |
| 04:05.08 | ke6isf | Flimzy: I think it goes without saying that he wouldn't attempt a ping at an *in*valid IP address. |
| 04:05.23 | usr13 | Flimzy: What I said was, it doesn't matter wheather I ping a valid IP address or a domain name. |
| 04:05.27 | Flimzy | usr13: My bad. I mis-interpreted your statement... it can be taken two ways. |
| 04:05.59 | Flimzy | usr13: I read 'valid' as an adjective for 'IP address or domain name' |
| 04:06.08 | usr13 | Is there some other way I can trouble soot this problem? |
| 04:06.25 | usr13 | Flimzy: Ok... |
| 04:06.27 | Flimzy | usr13: Well, narrow down the possibilities. I don't believe you answered the question I asked earlier... is it wired or wireless? |
| 04:06.45 | usr13 | Fact is, I have a very poor network connection. |
| 04:07.07 | tennin | ok, /usr/local/doc then |
| 04:07.10 | usr13 | Could it be due to the driver that is loaded for the NIC? or.... ??? |
| 04:07.11 | unstable | usr13: shut off your animal porn bittorrent downloading and it will fix the problem. |
| 04:07.14 | *** join/#debian Chameleon22 (n=Chameleo@60-240-54-74.tpgi.com.au) |
| 04:07.24 | _Atomo64_ | Stevie: are you there? |
| 04:07.39 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.46 | usr13 | Good idea! :) |
| 04:07.54 | xapaho | diana: ok, I managed to chroot as required and mount /dev/hda2 -- but grub-install says my /dev/hda2 does not have any corresponding bios drive (??) |
| 04:08.15 | Flimzy | usr13: But don't turn it off yet! I'm almost done downloading that one you recommended... |
| 04:08.50 | _Atomo64_ | so... anybody can help me...? instead of talking of bt downloads... ? |
| 04:09.00 | *** join/#debian jsubl2 (n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33) |
| 04:09.11 | usr13 | I'm thinking maybe the NIC has some sort of internal conflict. |
| 04:09.23 | diana | _Atomo64_: /join #xorg |
| 04:09.53 | usr13 | I've never seen a problem such as this....but was hoping someone on here might know of somwething to check to see what could be causing it. |
| 04:10.38 | usr13 | maybe it's some sort of IRQ conflict... or...??? |
| 04:10.39 | *** join/#debian dhuv (n=dhuv@pool-71-250-185-245.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 04:10.41 | *** join/#debian MrNaz (n=pirch@203-214-45-116.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 04:10.43 | dhuv | hello all |
| 04:10.44 | ke6isf | usr13: You don't have a different NIC to check this with, do you? |
| 04:10.46 | usr13 | just wild guess...? |
| 04:10.47 | _Atomo64_ | diana... I'll do it... but the log says that the xfree version was ********* by the debian project and blablabla |
| 04:11.12 | usr13 | I do, but cannot get it to load up and run. |
| 04:11.17 | tennin | it would be nice if something like apt-build existed for Texinfo (and other?) documentation so you could automatically get it in whatever format you wanted, and have it installed in a policy-informed way |
| 04:12.08 | *** join/#debian NemesisBLK (n=Menes@68-190-228-115.dhcp.wsco.ca.charter.com) |
| 04:12.22 | usr13 | I have a 3com Model 3ccfe575bt |
| 04:13.11 | nemontemi | !dpkg |
| 04:13.11 | dpkg | dpkg is, like, mad |
| 04:13.16 | nemontemi | !dpkg installed |
| 04:13.17 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; If you use aptitude, try aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M'; |
| 04:13.18 | Flimzy | usr13: Is it *wired* or *wireless*? |
| 04:13.18 | dhuv | I currently use php on my webserver and am familiar with the installation of the php module but need some help with cgi scripts written in perl. I am trying to install the megaupload utility which shows progress bars when users upload files. It is written in cgi and I need perl installed with apache2. I see the libapache2-mod-perl2 package but dont know if this is what will help me |
| 04:13.31 | usr13 | But, when I plug it in it says "found UCI device with no IRQ assignmint. Check BIOS settings!" |
| 04:14.20 | _Atomo64_ | dhuv, why don't you just try? |
| 04:15.08 | dhuv | _Atomo64_: wanted to avoid breaking something :) |
| 04:15.38 | Tortel | Reise Reise |
| 04:16.05 | _Atomo64_ | dhuv, I don't think that you'll break something... anyway, with a 'apt-get remove libapache2-mod-perl2' you could get rid of it.. |
| 04:16.23 | _Atomo64_ | dhuv, and are you sure that there's not an other package? not a 'lib' package? |
| 04:17.18 | dhuv | _Atomo64_: I can see other deps on this package (libapache2-mod-perl2 libdevel-symdump-perl libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl libperl5.8 liburi-perl libwww-perl) |
| 04:18.00 | dhuv | _Atomo64_: what do you mean if I am sure there is not another package? |
| 04:18.00 | _Atomo64_ | dhuv, err, no, you are right the package is libapache2-mod-perl2; try it |
| 04:18.18 | dhuv | OK, will try it |
| 04:18.22 | _Atomo64_ | dhuv, forget about that... that's THE package :) |
| 04:18.26 | xapaho | ok -- I have just re-installed grub, and now I need to re-build my /boot partition. could anyone please tell me where to pick up the vmlinuz and initrd files from each linux distro, starting with sarge ? |
| 04:18.44 | dhuv | just as another question. how do I remove all the dependencies after if I want to remove this? |
| 04:18.59 | *** join/#debian dorileo (n=dorileo@201.22.173.212.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 04:19.04 | dhuv | lets say tomorrow I decide to remove libapache2-mod-perl2 and forgot the dependencies? |
| 04:19.22 | diana | dhuv: Then you'll have wasted space on your hdd with all those dependencies. |
| 04:19.31 | dhuv | :) |
| 04:19.39 | diana | dhuv: apt-cache showpkg libapache2-mod-perl2 |
| 04:19.43 | diana | !tell dhuv about apt-cache |
| 04:19.59 | dhuv | diana: i use apt-cache to search |
| 04:20.01 | _Atomo64_ | dhuv, copy the list of packages that you need and then using apt-get remove package_name,package,package |
| 04:20.13 | _Atomo64_ | 'apt-cache search word' |
| 04:20.46 | diana | dhuv: Just type what I said. |
| 04:20.57 | _Atomo64_ | diana... do you have any idea of how many days I have to wait for an answer in #xorg ? |
| 04:21.02 | dhuv | _Atomo64_ : I am going to keep that list ofcourse, but I was curious if there was anyway to have apt remove all dependencies for that package if they are not used by any other packages |
| 04:21.26 | diana | _Atomo64_: probably less then how long you'll wait in here. |
| 04:22.11 | *** join/#debian moa3333 (n=andrei@81.185.36.174) |
| 04:22.18 | deadcat | diana: what gtk2 theme you use? |
| 04:23.06 | _Atomo64_ | diana: do you think it is a good idea to run my irc bot and use the auto-hello plugin to tell my problem to anyone who connects to the channel? |
| 04:23.28 | diana | deadcat: whatever the default is. I use fluxbox/irssi/screen/naim/mocp/firefox |
| 04:23.37 | diana | I do use some gtk programs now and then. |
| 04:23.45 | Tortel | GTK ftw! |
| 04:23.48 | Tortel | :D |
| 04:24.01 | _Atomo64_ | btw... does anyone know why I can't "add a printer/class" in the kde printers manager?... I want to add a LPD printer |
| 04:24.05 | deadcat | diana: oh.. well firefox is. |
| 04:24.07 | diana | _Atomo64_: That might work in #xorg but you'll probably get banned fast doing that here. |
| 04:24.36 | Flimzy | _Atomo64_: Do you have permission |
| 04:24.53 | jubo1 | is it necessary to add a security source if you are running etch? |
| 04:25.02 | dhuv | _Atomo64_: are you trying as root? |
| 04:25.03 | _Atomo64_ | Flimzy_: I've even tried while in root |
| 04:25.09 | dhuv | ok |
| 04:25.23 | _Atomo64_ | dhuv, I've tried in root and in a not-root account |
| 04:25.28 | Coweater | jubo1: nothing's necessary, if you wish to, /msg dpkg testing security |
| 04:25.46 | dhuv | _Atomo64_: why not cups? |
| 04:25.57 | _Atomo64_ | diana: well... first I have to find some already compiled php-gtk libs... so I can run my php irc bot... |
| 04:26.31 | _Atomo64_ | dhuv... /me doesn't know anything about printers in linux, but he already has cups and some other packages... |
| 04:26.34 | _Atomo64_ | :S |
| 04:26.40 | *** join/#debian knownbad (n=null@ca-arcdca-cuda1-c1w-108.arcdca.adelphia.net) |
| 04:27.36 | *** join/#debian konfuzed (n=Konf@72.0.72.135) |
| 04:29.25 | _Atomo64_ | dhuv... er, nope... sorry... I don't have CUPS... I didn't want to use 20MB of my old 4GB HDD for something that I don't know that will work |
| 04:31.19 | *** join/#debian jsubl2 (n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33) |
| 04:32.14 | *** join/#debian v|p3r (n=pdiablo@r200-40-215-112-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 04:33.02 | xapaho | diana and all: well I still have the "GRUB GRUB GRUB" issue and despite all my searches and re-done a grub-install, can't find a way to fix it, pls help.. |
| 04:33.40 | *** join/#debian Holborn (n=holborn@237.Red-217-125-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 04:34.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 339] by debhelper |
| 04:35.29 | diana | xapaho: Where is your debian partition that has /boot?? |
| 04:36.02 | quadrata | xapaho, grub --version |
| 04:36.26 | diana | quadrata: He fucked up his grub, and he is in knoppix now, he needs to chroot himself into his debian partition, the update-grub |
| 04:36.42 | quadrata | you don't need to chroot to fix grub |
| 04:36.49 | xapaho | diana: /boot is on hda2, currently under knoppix dvd 4.0.2 |
| 04:36.57 | quadrata | not if grub is installed on the MBR |
| 04:37.07 | diana | xapaho: Where did you mount /hda2? |
| 04:37.21 | xapaho | diana: /mnt/hda2 |
| 04:37.25 | quadrata | xapaho, you're running knoppix? can you run grub at a prompt somewhere? |
| 04:37.40 | diana | xapaho: ls /mnt/hda2/boot shows your kernel? |
| 04:38.00 | xapaho | quadrata: sure, I am under terminal |
| 04:38.13 | quadrata | xapaho, so, run grub :) |
| 04:38.19 | xapaho | diana: yes, well the only one's left after my f**k up: fedora one |
| 04:38.53 | diana | xapaho: cd /mnt/hda2; chroot /mnt/hda2; grub-install; update-grub; |
| 04:39.01 | usr13 | I guess I need to download a couple of iso images to get this install finished.... or find some other pcmci network card that will work with this system. |
| 04:39.12 | usr13 | I have blank CD's on hand .... so...??? |
| 04:39.30 | usr13 | [suggestions welcome] - [it's getting late] :) |
| 04:39.37 | _Atomo64_ | xapaho: did you lost the vmlinuz-2.* from /boot ? |
| 04:39.40 | quadrata | diana, if the grub installed on his box is bad, won't chrooting to his debian system just mess it up again? |
| 04:39.59 | quadrata | if he just updates the MBR from the knoppix CD, then grub is fixed and he can boot once more |
| 04:40.13 | quadrata | and to do that, all he needs to do is run 'grub' |
| 04:40.29 | diana | quadrata: quadrata grub-install will fix his grub. |
| 04:40.42 | *** join/#debian aidan (i=aidan@unaffiliated/aidan) |
| 04:40.46 | quadrata | not if the grub-install is broken |
| 04:40.55 | diana | He is using a knoppix livecd |
| 04:41.01 | quadrata | yes... |
| 04:41.07 | quadrata | so use grub from the CD |
| 04:41.11 | xapaho | _Atomo64_: that's right, I was stupid enough to let sarge reformat my boot, and then I had this "GRUB GRUB GRUB" issue, then I repeated the error with fedora installer, which didn't solve the GRUB GRUB issue |
| 04:41.19 | quadrata | no need to chroot anywhere |
| 04:41.33 | diana | He already has knoppix in, this is quicker. |
| 04:41.43 | quadrata | diana, you're not understanding me |
| 04:41.56 | diana | You're saying to use the debian disc. I understand. |
| 04:41.57 | xapaho | _Atomo64_: so as a result, I now have a fresh formatted /boot by fedora, but I still have of course my sarge and ubuntu partitions, and IO'd just like to restore the multiboot with all linux distros! |
| 04:41.58 | _Atomo64_ | xapaho, doesn't works if you just 'cp' those files from the installation disc? |
| 04:42.00 | quadrata | from the KNOPPIX prompt, run grub from the knoppix CD |
| 04:42.03 | quadrata | diana, no, I"m not |
| 04:42.57 | usr13 | I'm trying this 3com card now... (PCMCIA), and it's saying: "IRQ known for interrupt pin D of device 00:01.2. Please try using pci=biosirq. |
| 04:43.04 | _Atomo64_ | xapaho, so now you just need to add the entries to the menu, or do you still have the vmlinuz files missing? |
| 04:43.21 | usr13 | "found UHCI device with no IRQ assigned. check BIOS settings! |
| 04:43.55 | usr13 | I guess this just means that the 3com device is not going to work? |
| 04:43.58 | *** part/#debian knownbad (n=null@ca-arcdca-cuda1-c1w-108.arcdca.adelphia.net) |
| 04:44.00 | quadrata | _Atomo64_, I don't think his grub is even getting to stage2 |
| 04:44.11 | xapaho | ok gents, it's very kind of all u to try helping me now :) what will u agree that I should do ? _Atomo64_ I have only the fedora kernels in /boot, I need to grab the others and I'm not sure how to do that to be honnest -- are they in /usr/src/linux/ ? |
| 04:44.13 | quadrata | he needs to re-install grub on the MBR |
| 04:44.56 | quadrata | anyway, do it however you want... |
| 04:45.11 | usr13 | But it's lighting up, as if software has been loaded for it... but, well I just don't know what to do next. It just doesn't work. |
| 04:45.19 | _Atomo64_ | ;) |
| 04:45.20 | xapaho | quadrata: I've had grub installed on /hda2 for ages, not on the MBR. it was just working fine until I installed sarge |
| 04:46.43 | quadrata | xapaho, where is your boot dir? /mnt/hda2/boot ? |
| 04:47.18 | xapaho | quadrata: right now under knoppix, yes, correct |
| 04:47.41 | quadrata | ok, do this for me, on the knoppix terminal, *not in a chroot* type 'grub' |
| 04:48.22 | quadrata | you get the grub prompt? |
| 04:48.23 | xapaho | quadrata: ok, grub> |
| 04:48.26 | quadrata | good |
| 04:48.29 | quadrata | type this |
| 04:48.33 | quadrata | root (hd0,1) |
| 04:48.53 | xapaho | ok |
| 04:48.56 | quadrata | ok |
| 04:49.23 | quadrata | now you sure you didn't use the MBR before? |
| 04:49.33 | *** part/#debian curt (n=curt@pdpc/supporter/active/curt) |
| 04:49.50 | quadrata | do you dual-boot with anything else? |
| 04:49.55 | *** join/#debian wobbler (n=wayne@pdpc/supporter/active/wobbler) |
| 04:49.58 | _Atomo64_ | hey, just a question... what is the % of messing up debian if I change the apt sources from stable to testing and then an 'apt-get update', 'apt-get upgrade'? |
| 04:50.02 | xapaho | quadrata: yes, and it is much more suitable to my needs -- I dual boot from m$ |
| 04:50.03 | *** join/#debian scorpion007 (n=scorp@w56-65.wireless.alphalink.com.au) |
| 04:50.06 | *** part/#debian scorpion007 (n=scorp@w56-65.wireless.alphalink.com.au) |
| 04:50.21 | *** join/#debian http (i=http@httpcraft/root404) |
| 04:50.27 | quadrata | xapaho, ok - though you could dual-boot with it installed on the MBR, but that's another point |
| 04:50.35 | quadrata | anyway, type this: |
| 04:50.38 | quadrata | setup (hd0,1) |
| 04:50.57 | *** join/#debian cheal (n=chealer@pdpc/supporter/student/chealer) |
| 04:51.09 | xapaho | quadrata: I have set up a linux.bin copying the first 512o with dd, and that allowed me to reach grub just fine |
| 04:51.11 | _Atomo64_ | quadrata, couldn't he just use a usb to boot :? |
| 04:51.21 | usr13 | I guess I just need to give up on this network install and download some iso's. |
| 04:51.22 | quadrata | _Atomo64_, if his bios supported it |
| 04:51.33 | quadrata | _Atomo64_, but it's easier to put Grub on the MBR and then boot windows with GRUB |
| 04:51.33 | usr13 | What do I need to finish this install? |
| 04:51.39 | *** part/#debian jsubl2 (n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33) |
| 04:51.44 | quadrata | than it is to put grub elsewhere and let windows try to boot debian |
| 04:51.45 | quadrata | that's a pain |
| 04:52.39 | xapaho | quadrata: I ensure you that way was just great till I let sarge overwrite my grub on the /boot part, by inadvertance |
| 04:52.47 | usr13 | This is very frustrating because I am actually establishing a network connection but it's just so very slow and limited that it will not transer any data. |
| 04:52.56 | quadrata | xapaho, well, whatever suits ya |
| 04:53.10 | _Atomo64_ | quadrata: well, I have two HDDs on my pc... one with winxp and the other one with debian... I just disable one HDD from the BIOS config so I can boot winxp or debian... as I want :) but I keep grub from loading because sometimes I want to choose a different kernel or something like that |
| 04:53.12 | quadrata | xapaho, did you run the last command? |
| 04:53.48 | xapaho | quadrata: yes |
| 04:53.57 | quadrata | xapaho, oh, wait... did you say before that Windows would dual boot? |
| 04:54.11 | quadrata | so whenever you booted your machine, it was the windows bootloader you saw? |
| 04:54.26 | _Atomo64_ | xapaho: do you have two different HDDs? one for windows an an other one for linux? |
| 04:55.04 | xapaho | quadrata: yes. right now I still can boot m$, and select my "Linux Galaxy" in the boot menu from ntldr, and that loads grub which is f*ked up (printing infinite "GRUB GRUB GRUB" messages) |
| 04:55.22 | quadrata | aha... |
| 04:55.40 | xapaho | _Atomo64_: oh yes I have lots of disks, but all OSs are on /hdaX parts |
| 04:55.42 | *** join/#debian S2AnGeL (n=S2AnGeL@CPE000f66bd2bf3-CM000039529869.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 04:55.54 | quadrata | xapaho, well, if this doesn't work, I suggest installing grub manually again - but give it a shot, it might be fixed now, provided that last command ran ok |
| 04:56.02 | _Atomo64_ | hey, just a question... what is the % of messing up debian if I change the apt sources from stable to testing and then an 'apt-get update', 'apt-get upgrade'? |
| 04:56.15 | xapaho | quadrata: so, the setup cmd succeded -- I try rebooting now ? |
| 04:56.16 | *** join/#debian Stevie (n=whatsit2@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Stevie) |
| 04:56.24 | quadrata | xapaho, yeah, give it a shot |
| 04:56.32 | xapaho | quadrata: ok :) |
| 04:56.37 | quadrata | xapaho, if this doesn't work, then your stage files might be corrupted |
| 04:56.48 | _Atomo64_ | quadrata: any idea? "hey, just a question... what is the % of messing up debian if I change the apt sources from stable to testing and then an 'apt-get update', 'apt-get upgrade'?" |
| 04:57.01 | quadrata | _Atomo64_, I don't know - I don't use debian ;) |
| 04:57.20 | S2AnGeL | hi I made my first software raid 1 did it like 5 times.. till I finnaly used a older version of sarge netinstall.. but I can not boot it cause it crashed at making lilo to master boot sector.. so I hit finish without.. now how do I boot a raid one I tried linux root=/dev/md0 ugh |
| 04:57.23 | _Atomo64_ | quadrata, what do you use then? |
| 04:57.37 | quadrata | _Atomo64_, my own system - one I built myself |
| 04:57.44 | quadrata | _Atomo64_, loosely based on LFS |
| 04:57.56 | xapaho | _Atomo64_: potentially, I think u'll get all ur packages ready to be updated to the latest testing releases (so it won't be stable any more) |
| 04:58.14 | S2AnGeL | how does one boot a software raid with no boot sector |
| 04:58.45 | S2AnGeL | if I could just boot in I could configure lilo ugh |
| 04:58.45 | _Atomo64_ | yeah.., but the thing is that I'm using the security.debian.org too and with the I don't remember the name... to keep clamav updated... |
| 04:58.50 | xapaho | quadrata: what are "stage" files ? |
| 04:59.13 | quadrata | xapaho, those are the files that grub uses to actually boot the system - you have stage1 and stage2 |
| 04:59.19 | LinuxNIT | do any of you guys run anti virus in linux? |
| 04:59.23 | S2AnGeL | anyone with raid 1 software know how to boot it (runing on sata drives) |
| 04:59.28 | quadrata | xapaho, they should be there in /boot/grub |
| 04:59.40 | quadrata | LinuxNIT, you get many Linux viruses? |
| 04:59.45 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 04:59.49 | quadrata | neither do I ;) |
| 05:00.02 | S2AnGeL | never seen a linux virus |
| 05:00.05 | LinuxNIT | i was just wondering if anyone does |
| 05:00.12 | *** part/#debian dhuv (n=dhuv@pool-71-250-185-245.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 05:00.12 | freeone3000 | There's BLISS. |
| 05:00.15 | S2AnGeL | I hear about them.. but they turn out to be nothing.. |
| 05:00.24 | freeone3000 | Logon as root. |
| 05:00.26 | freeone3000 | Start IRC. |
| 05:00.28 | freeone3000 | Go to #debian. |
| 05:00.30 | quadrata | heh |
| 05:00.35 | xapaho | quadrata: ok, txs -- FYI, I also can access all parts very easily, including /boot, from m$ (using extifs native driver) |
| 05:00.36 | freeone3000 | Virus warnings. |
| 05:00.45 | S2AnGeL | at the linux expo they had a windows anti virus company that claimed there was some.. they where full of it |
| 05:00.56 | *** join/#debian manymore (n=gary@ip68-98-25-179.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 05:01.01 | quadrata | xapaho, cool - someday you should try booting Windows from grub, it really is easier :) |
| 05:01.09 | GPLGeek | clamAV is a good anti-virus. I only run it when I may be communicating with windows machines. |
| 05:01.22 | *** join/#debian xnp (n=Unknown@205.211.214.206) |
| 05:01.46 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, you look familiar ;) |
| 05:01.52 | *** join/#debian nemontemi (n=kmurata@unaffiliated/nemontemi) |
| 05:01.59 | xnp | lastest version is 3.1 _ |
| 05:02.01 | xnp | ? |
| 05:02.07 | *** join/#debian timo (i=timo@c604.w2.ton.tut.fi) |
| 05:02.07 | GPLGeek | Make some $$$ with a livecd with the latest definitions and a ntfs driver |
| 05:02.10 | xnp | 3.1r1 ? |
| 05:02.12 | S2AnGeL | so no one knows how to boot a software raid in here |
| 05:02.43 | GPLGeek | lemming windows users with deep pockets =) |
| 05:03.06 | LinuxNIT | hehehehe |
| 05:03.08 | xapaho | quadrata: I have, but when I had to re-install windows, I found it even more a pain to re-install grub :) that way I normally always have a way to access grub files with network support |
| 05:03.23 | *** part/#debian dh0 (n=dh0@c-67-164-9-62.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:03.40 | *** join/#debian samw (n=sam@144.131.188.83) |
| 05:03.41 | *** join/#debian UdontKnow (i=udontkno@freenode/staff/udontknow) |
| 05:03.42 | quadrata | xapaho, cool - well, again, whatever suits you :) |
| 05:04.00 | *** part/#debian Rune- (n=etc@203-217-65-160.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 333] by debhelper |
| 05:04.11 | LinuxNIT | 333? |
| 05:04.21 | S2AnGeL | windows users donate alot.. due to being sick of windows.. and avertisments for windows products on linux sites really helps linux grow.. it works agist microsoft |
| 05:04.45 | xapaho | quadrata: still "GRUB GRUB GRUB" messages ... I'm sure about one thing, is that if I re-install the ubuntu part, everything will come back as normal -- do you think I could need to simply re-extract the first 512 from my /hda2, to my linux.bin file ? |
| 05:04.46 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:05.48 | quadrata | xapaho, er, you could try that - or you could try compiling grub for yourself and replacing the stage files |
| 05:06.19 | xapaho | quadrata: how's that ubuntu installer doing a better job ? |
| 05:06.47 | *** join/#debian wtyler (n=wtyler@207.55.125.173) |
| 05:07.04 | quadrata | xapaho, actually, do you have in your system the dir '/usr/lib/grub' ? |
| 05:07.12 | quadrata | either on the knoppix CD or in the debian system? |
| 05:07.33 | xapaho | quadrata: let me launch knoppix again... |
| 05:10.17 | xapaho | quadrata: there is one thing that annoys me, is that every linux distro seem to ignore other kernels on boot: if you update grub in ubuntu, it will build the menu.lst printing ubuntu everywhere, if you update grub from fedora it will just ignore others, etc. isn't there any project on this side ? |
| 05:10.43 | *** join/#debian messia (n=juve@host84-255.pool8255.interbusiness.it) |
| 05:10.49 | quadrata | xapaho, yeah, it's frustrating |
| 05:11.11 | quadrata | xapaho, that's one reason I do more stuff myself and learn to figure out how to fix things manually |
| 05:12.06 | usr13 | I need a little help. I have the "base system" installed and need to get the rest. I've tried the network install, which just ended in frustration because the PCMCIA network card drivers must be broken, it runs but it's so slow, can't get any data transfer. So, what I need is just a basic system. A GUI, (gnome or xface would be fine), and just basic desktop apps for personal laptop use. I see that there are about 14 iso images and I HOPE I don't need to |
| 05:12.13 | xapaho | quadrata: so every time I do update the kernel using automatic methods eg synaptic, we have to backup, then edit manually to fix all that stuff -- things are no so automated, it's "almost perfect", frustrating is the word :) |
| 05:12.29 | quadrata | heh, indeed |
| 05:13.13 | usr13 | All I want is about 1g or so of apps but where is a list of what's on the iso's? |
| 05:13.26 | S2AnGeL | anyone in here good with booting a software raid |
| 05:14.06 | quadrata | S2AnGeL, what's the problem? |
| 05:14.24 | usr13 | Would iso 1 & 2 have what I need? or is it spanne out across them all? |
| 05:14.49 | usr13 | Can someone direct me to a list of apps that is on each ISO? |
| 05:16.19 | usr13 | I found the answer; http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#which-cd |
| 05:16.22 | usr13 | Thanks. |
| 05:16.36 | usr13 | CD 1 is what I want / need. |
| 05:19.03 | unstable | http://pastebin.com/584564 |
| 05:19.05 | unstable | Why isn't madwifi compiling? |
| 05:19.24 | *** join/#debian Fear_cult (n=fear@ip68-228-53-68.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 05:19.58 | Fear_cult | how do you get the selection back up for like when you 1st install debian it asks if you want to select packages manually or desktop or dnsserver so on so forth? |
| 05:20.23 | usr13 | anyone know on which ISO I might find the WIFI stuff |
| 05:20.40 | *** join/#debian helix (n=e@unaffiliated/helix) |
| 05:20.57 | Fear_cult | no clue usr13 never installed off the discs just net |
| 05:22.33 | LinuxNIT | usr13, do you have the discs as your source in source.list |
| 05:24.21 | *** part/#debian LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@68.93.136.141) |
| 05:25.41 | Fear_cult | anyone im stuck in console links2 sux |
| 05:26.14 | freeone3000 | apt-get install x-window-system |
| 05:26.27 | freeone3000 | And preferably a window manager. |
| 05:27.04 | Fear_cult | yeah got that but i want to get back to the debian config thing i type debconf its asking for an option |
| 05:27.18 | Fear_cult | so it will install all the pkg's i need |
| 05:27.32 | freeone3000 | dpkg-reconfigure deb-base |
| 05:27.59 | *** join/#debian emag (i=user4234@dsl093-100-200.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 05:28.51 | Fear_cult | thanks |
| 05:29.17 | Fear_cult | dident work though |
| 05:29.28 | freeone3000 | Just install as you need. |
| 05:29.31 | freeone3000 | So, what do you need? |
| 05:30.51 | S2AnGeL | usr13: apt-get.org maybe |
| 05:31.15 | *** join/#debian ApEtc (i=apetc@ip70-162-216-7.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 05:31.19 | freeone3000 | apt-get install x-window-system kde will take care of 'desktop environment'. |
| 05:31.52 | *** join/#debian wakejagr (n=wakejagr@h-67-100-133-77.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 05:32.01 | freeone3000 | apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql (plus reccomended and suggested) will take care of web server. |
| 05:32.23 | Fear_cult | already running webserver on another box |
| 05:32.39 | Fear_cult | just need the desktop stuff all the sys deps like glib libc all the little stuff |
| 05:32.50 | freeone3000 | Fear_cult: that's x-window-system |
| 05:32.57 | Fear_cult | aight |
| 05:33.02 | freeone3000 | Fear_cult: If you can start a GUI, you're good, to set up all the 'c' libs. |
| 05:37.43 | *** join/#debian phaethon (i=fredslee@c-24-30-102-60.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:37.44 | *** join/#debian nailbiter (n=foobar@c220-237-138-160.eburwd1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 05:37.46 | *** join/#debian keegan_witt (n=keeganwi@oh-71-2-5-200.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) |
| 05:37.55 | *** part/#debian keegan_witt (n=keeganwi@oh-71-2-5-200.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) |
| 05:39.40 | *** join/#debian GTswagger (n=gts@68-119-207-153.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com) |
| 05:42.41 | GTswagger | Is it OK to request the Digging of a story in this channel? |
| 05:42.56 | freeone3000 | Elaborate, please. |
| 05:43.40 | GTswagger | as in -- request the people here registered at Digg check out a certain linux related story and Digg it |
| 05:45.09 | *** join/#debian colby (n=colby@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 05:46.59 | *** join/#debian din (n=din@24.144.40.40) |
| 05:50.33 | *** join/#debian lakcaj (n=lakcaj@wnpgmb02dc1-145-13.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 05:52.22 | xapaho | quadrata: still here? |
| 05:53.21 | *** join/#debian auk (n=scott@h-69-3-211-36.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 05:57.09 | nailbiter | How do I set a file's hidden/system/archive bit with the 'vfat' filesystem driver? |
| 05:57.53 | freeone3000 | chmod? |
| 05:58.11 | freeone3000 | Oh, nah, the first bit's sticky/something/something... |
| 06:01.08 | SerajewelKS | sticky(1), setgid(2), setuid(4) |
| 06:01.36 | nailbiter | So the sticky/setuid bits map to the hidden/system/archive FAT attributes? |
| 06:01.41 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: no |
| 06:01.56 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: afaik, you can't directly. you can set readonly with "chmod -w" though. |
| 06:02.04 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: mtools might have a way to do this |
| 06:02.45 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: why you would need to do this is beyond me though |
| 06:03.14 | nailbiter | I'm imaging Windows XP on a FAT32 filesystem with a small netbootable Linux setup |
| 06:03.31 | nailbiter | If I don't preserve these attributes, XP gets horribly mauled |
| 06:03.47 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: try partimage |
| 06:04.32 | nailbiter | That's a whole partition imaging toolkit; the arrangement I'm using backs up individual files |
| 06:04.45 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: you said you were imaging Windows XP |
| 06:05.00 | nailbiter | It's more or less necessary because we 1) need diffs between success images 2) don't have all that much space on the image server |
| 06:05.06 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: partimage tries to be sane and only backup used clusters, but meh. |
| 06:05.24 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: it can also [gb]zip the images |
| 06:05.39 | nailbiter | We'll certainly use partimage, though, if we can't get this to work. ;-) |
| 06:05.47 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: how are you backing up? tar? |
| 06:06.01 | nailbiter | SerajewelKS: Yes, plain old tar + bzip2 |
| 06:06.11 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: how is that any easier to diff than partimage |
| 06:06.43 | nailbiter | We rdiff pairs of tar images, then compress everything with bzip2 |
| 06:07.11 | SerajewelKS | hmm |
| 06:07.20 | nailbiter | I suppose it's not that much of a space saving |
| 06:07.28 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: well for FAT32, partimage is probably going to be the way to go |
| 06:07.51 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: i don't know how it does with restoring to a different-sized partition though |
| 06:07.55 | *** join/#debian LsD- (n=o0@pool-68-238-40-111.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 06:08.13 | *** join/#debian pratyush (n=pratyush@202.65.150.18) |
| 06:08.19 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: is there a reason you aren't using ntfs? |
| 06:08.32 | nailbiter | SerajewelKS: Well, if it can deal with resizing, that'd be a bonus. Otherwise, we'll just invoke parted to grow the partition to fit afterward |
| 06:09.01 | nailbiter | SerajewelKS: NTFS is even more intractable: we can't back any NTFS attributes up at all |
| 06:09.09 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: except with partimage ;) |
| 06:09.18 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: granted it's harder to resize |
| 06:09.26 | *** join/#debian execve (n=bann3d@125.22.32.152) |
| 06:09.35 | SerajewelKS | nailbiter: better just order all the same drives =) |
| 06:09.51 | nailbiter | XP itself can grow an NTFS filesystem on first boot, but it's very tricky to arrange |
| 06:11.53 | *** join/#debian Aghaster (n=Aghaster@modemcable240.73-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 06:12.20 | SerajewelKS | as much as i dislike windows, it reboots FAST |
| 06:12.39 | yawg | not as fast as linux |
| 06:12.48 | SerajewelKS | yawg: what the HELL are you smoking |
| 06:12.54 | *** part/#debian GTswagger (n=gts@68-119-207-153.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com) |
| 06:13.12 | yawg | i'm on a 90MHz system with 14MB ram.. and my reboots are done in about a minute |
| 06:13.15 | SerajewelKS | yawg: hotplug takes about as long as windows XP's entire boot process, on my box anyway |
| 06:13.24 | unstable | yawg: Did you get a kernel installed? |
| 06:13.25 | SerajewelKS | yawg: well with those specs, sure |
| 06:13.39 | yawg | unnot yet |
| 06:14.40 | *** join/#debian loumz (n=loumz@222.124.234.86) |
| 06:14.51 | yawg | unstable: ^^ |
| 06:16.09 | yawg | i'm not happy with the way windows reboots. although i suppose if windows *had* to be good at something, rebooting would be nice (seeing as how it needs to be done so damn often ;).) |
| 06:17.09 | xapaho | hi again -- I am trying to rebuild my /boot part. Where, in sarge tree, can I find sarge's vmlinuz, initrd, config and System.map files ? |
| 06:17.48 | SerajewelKS | yawg: XP boots faster on my system than it takes my BIOS to do the "quick" POST |
| 06:18.34 | *** join/#debian jeffno (n=jeffno@68-189-242-219.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) |
| 06:18.51 | SerajewelKS | anyway this is all horribly OT |
| 06:20.19 | yawg | !OT? |
| 06:20.19 | dpkg | i heard ot is off topic |
| 06:20.23 | yawg | :x |
| 06:21.19 | yawg | uggugughgh, is there a command to remove all packages that failed to install in apt-get? |
| 06:21.58 | SerajewelKS | yawg: 'apt-get -f install' ? |
| 06:22.00 | yawg | each time i use apt-get for something, it tries to install kernel-image-2.6 |
| 06:22.13 | SerajewelKS | yawg: apt-get remove kernel-image-2.6 then |
| 06:22.36 | *** join/#debian nias (n=nias@p54BA27A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:23.20 | jeffno | How do I recover from a failed Synaptic installation of packages? It died while unpacking, but shows the packages as installed. |
| 06:24.53 | Aghaster | jeffno: do a complete removal, then reinstall |
| 06:25.05 | unstable | yawg: You should probably get rid of debian on your system. |
| 06:25.14 | yawg | :(! |
| 06:25.18 | Aghaster | lol |
| 06:25.18 | unstable | yawg: I would recommend something like damn small linux. much better |
| 06:25.32 | unstable | 16 megs of ram is pretty shitty, your system is garbage |
| 06:25.34 | yawg | debian is working fine |
| 06:25.41 | yawg | no, this computer rocks |
| 06:25.44 | yawg | it works fine |
| 06:25.45 | unstable | yea, but you are using 2.2 kernel |
| 06:25.49 | yawg | so? |
| 06:26.01 | unstable | So you won't be able to get 2.4.x or 2.6.x working you need more ram |
| 06:26.02 | yawg | i can ssh to the server i use for web hosting and IRC |
| 06:26.03 | Aghaster | hey was anyone able to fix the problem with foreign keyboard layouts with the latest version of Xorg? |
| 06:26.19 | yawg | i got the nub working for cursor control |
| 06:26.20 | unstable | yawg: So if you are sshing to another box, why not just use damn small linux. |
| 06:26.21 | Aghaster | i googled a lot about it.. |
| 06:26.41 | yawg | can i install damn small with a floppy disk? |
| 06:26.48 | centrx | unstable, so what? |
| 06:27.06 | yawg | this install is so good, it would be very hard for me to try something else |
| 06:27.08 | *** join/#debian karsten (n=karsten@198.144.195.186) |
| 06:27.19 | yawg | i would risk what i have |
| 06:27.31 | yawg | it was hard enough to get this far... |
| 06:28.21 | unstable | You don't even have enough free space to uncompress the linux-image-2.*.tar.bz2 file. |
| 06:28.55 | unstable | yawg: http://dsl.thegeekery.com/current/ |
| 06:28.59 | unstable | There are floppy images yes. |
| 06:29.08 | yawg | hmmm |
| 06:29.12 | unstable | http://dsl.thegeekery.com/current/bootfloppy.img |
| 06:29.25 | karsten | unstable: You're supporting yawg here? What's he trying to do? |
| 06:30.08 | unstable | karsten: He has a system with 8 or 16 megs of RAM, and he is running 75% woody and 25% sarge..and he's trying to install 2.4 or 2.6 but it won't let him because he doesn't have enough ram. |
| 06:30.18 | unstable | And he can't compile a kernel because he doesn't have enough free space. |
| 06:30.22 | karsten | unstable: Yep. |
| 06:30.24 | unstable | debian is not the answer for him. |
| 06:30.28 | yawg | karsten: i am running sarge on a very slow old laptop and i don't have enough memory or hard drive space to upgrade to kernel 2.4 or 2.6 |
| 06:31.01 | karsten | yawg: There are ways to create system images from a complete system to run on a smaller one. Usually used in the embedded space. |
| 06:31.06 | unstable | yawg: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ |
| 06:31.22 | *** part/#debian Thanatermesis (n=Elive@unaffiliated/thanatermesis) |
| 06:31.38 | karsten | yawg: .... if you have access to anything with > 256 MB disk and > 32 MB RAM, you can consider that. Otherwise you're cramming a 3 foot square peg into a 2 inch round hole. |
| 06:31.44 | karsten | yawg: ... or local units as appropriate. |
| 06:31.57 | unstable | yawg: dsl uses the 2.4.x kernel and will have pcmcia support. |
| 06:32.21 | karsten | yawg: Slackware might possibly make sense for you, but even that would be a stretch. |
| 06:32.29 | yawg | i have pcmcia support, it's wireless i don't have |
| 06:33.14 | karsten | yawg: I'm guessing that system's got 16 bit PCMCIA too, right? |
| 06:33.33 | karsten | yawg: If so, you're likely SOL for most wireless PC cards. |
| 06:34.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 327] by debhelper |
| 06:34.25 | unstable | yawg: damn small linux has wireless-tools also |
| 06:34.32 | *** join/#debian xammu (n=xammu@p54B385D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:34.34 | unstable | yawg: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/packages.html |
| 06:34.55 | unstable | yawg: And if you install damn small linux you can download porn, because you'll have a ton more free space. |
| 06:35.14 | karsten | unstable: pr0n++ ! |
| 06:35.32 | unstable | yawg: and damn small linux has apt also |
| 06:35.55 | yawg | it does?? |
| 06:36.00 | yawg | damn small uses apt-get?? |
| 06:36.08 | yawg | you might have me sold... |
| 06:36.31 | yawg | i won't want to do this tonight tho.. it's almost sleep time and i won't be able to get any sleep if i fuck this computer up |
| 06:36.32 | karsten | yawg: It's largely Debian based. |
| 06:36.40 | karsten | yawg: ... so yes, apt-get. |
| 06:36.52 | yawg | this is my only computer at the moment |
| 06:37.23 | unstable | yawg: Do you have an external cdrom? |
| 06:37.31 | unstable | Or a usb port? |
| 06:37.36 | unstable | A pci card with usb ports? |
| 06:38.03 | yawg | nope |
| 06:38.12 | yawg | well i have a pci card with usb, but it doesn't fit |
| 06:38.15 | yawg | physically |
| 06:38.21 | karsten | yawg: I hate to break this to you but you can find vastly more capable HW in the US for well under $100. |
| 06:38.23 | yawg | which doesn't make much sense to me.. |
| 06:38.38 | karsten | yawg: You've got a 16 bit PCMCIA slot and a 32 bit card. |
| 06:38.44 | yawg | karsten: i'm using a toshiba portege 610CT |
| 06:38.45 | karsten | yawg: They're physically incompatible |
| 06:38.58 | yawg | oh.. |
| 06:39.01 | yawg | damn. |
| 06:39.13 | karsten | yawg: Ask me how I found out about that ;-) |
| 06:39.42 | yawg | by breaking a pcmcia slot? |
| 06:39.45 | yawg | :/ |
| 06:39.53 | yawg | i'm lucky mine isn't broken... |
| 06:40.16 | unstable | yawg: How much money do you have in your pocket? |
| 06:40.24 | karsten | yawg: No. By thinking "Oh, it's PCMCIA, it'll just work..." |
| 06:40.32 | unstable | You can get a beastly emachine 2.6 celeron for like 150 dollars(tower only) |
| 06:40.46 | unstable | 256 meg of DDR, 40 gig hdd |
| 06:40.55 | yawg | unstable: not enough |
| 06:41.10 | *** join/#debian Kernel_Core (i=Kernel_C@217.218.80.213) |
| 06:41.15 | yawg | i want *this* computer to work |
| 06:41.16 | Kernel_Core | hi all |
| 06:41.27 | yawg | nobody else has a romance with a sexy old laptop? |
| 06:41.31 | karsten | yawg: Used computer stores, stuff for $50 and up. Beats what you've got. |
| 06:41.39 | unstable | yawg: Go to your local lug, at my local lug we give out old computers every month. |
| 06:41.39 | Kernel_Core | I want to install asterisk-h323 package but I can't ! I get this error http://pastebin.com/584621 |
| 06:41.44 | unstable | And they're 5 years newer then yours. |
| 06:41.54 | yawg | i want *this* computer... |
| 06:42.00 | yawg | it is very nice |
| 06:42.02 | karsten | yawg: I'm coming at you from a T21 right now, which is what I'd consider old. I've used a 486 Thinkpad within living memory. |
| 06:42.11 | unstable | yawg: So install damn small linux(DSL) |
| 06:42.17 | *** join/#debian alindeman (i=adml@freenode/staff/gallery.alindeman) |
| 06:42.20 | yawg | unstable: i'll try it out |
| 06:42.22 | karsten | yawg: ... I'm very familiar with limitations (and capabilities). You're wasting your time here. And ours. |
| 06:46.40 | *** join/#debian linux_user400354 (n=chris@64-185-188-114.block2.gvtc.com) |
| 06:46.48 | linux_user400354 | a computer with the realvnc version for windows alows people without vncviewer to connect to the vncserver using a java applet in a webbrowser. how can the same thing be done in debian? |
| 06:48.12 | xapaho | anyone could help me rebulid my /boot partition please ? I miss the kernel files |
| 06:48.39 | freeone3000 | apt-get install 'whatever linux image you want here' |
| 06:48.48 | yawg | linux_user400354: apt-get install the vnc server package |
| 06:48.48 | freeone3000 | Should take care of that for you. |
| 06:49.17 | *** part/#debian joyr (n=joyr@m187.ip3.netikka.fi) |
| 06:49.20 | yawg | linux_user400354: then read the man pages for it, there is a command to type that starts a virtual desktop environment |
| 06:49.34 | xapaho | freeone3000: hey, txs to u again. yes, but as long as I can boot from that distro ? |
| 06:50.53 | *** join/#debian kevix (n=kevin@user-2iveaq0.dialup.mindspring.com) |
| 06:51.25 | *** join/#debian joyr (n=joyr@m187.ip3.netikka.fi) |
| 06:57.32 | *** join/#debian bogusano (n=bogusano@fengor.net) |
| 07:00.48 | *** join/#debian dorileo (n=dorileo@201.22.173.212.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 07:02.03 | unstable | The apt-spy package sucks...it grabs some weird mirrors list, and half the mirrors use the old key and you get gpg errors. |
| 07:02.43 | Gnea | then file a bug |
| 07:02.57 | unstable | apt-spy says that this mirrors is the fastest... "deb http://mirror.peer1.net/debian/ unstable main" but I get gpg errors now, and I don't trust this mirror. |
| 07:03.02 | unstable | something is wrong |
| 07:03.40 | unstable | Gnea: Can you verify this? |
| 07:03.52 | *** join/#debian b0xy (n=b0xy@65.255.135.160) |
| 07:03.55 | unstable | Can you add that line to your sources.list and apt-get update and tell me if you get gpg error also |
| 07:05.30 | Gnea | unstable: are you aware that there is a fix for the gpg errors? |
| 07:05.33 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:05.40 | weasel00_afk | ultraviolet was a let down... coulda spent the time on learning debian =( |
| 07:05.56 | unstable | Gnea: yes I have the 2006 key |
| 07:06.54 | unstable | Gnea: I've been using 2006 key for a couple months. I just got bored and started looking for the fastest mirror to download from. And apt-spy seems to download an unofficial mirror list, and one of the mirrors gives me gpg warnings |
| 07:07.03 | *** join/#debian pbrunier (n=pbrunier@gnu/webmaster/pbrunier) |
| 07:07.08 | unstable | Gnea: Were you able to reproduce these results with that deb line in your sources.list? |
| 07:07.35 | Gnea | unstable: i'm sure you are right, so there's probably a solution, that's what i'm working on right now |
| 07:08.07 | unstable | Gnea: yea but I don't want to submit a bug until someone else tells me they get the same results. |
| 07:08.20 | Gnea | okay |
| 07:10.59 | Gnea | unstable: alright, it looks like another site i have in my sources.list was causing it - the one you pasted is just fine - but then i did a bit more than just the standard stuff |
| 07:11.25 | kevix | unstable: the gpg message is a WARNING. an error would cause it to stop |
| 07:11.42 | *** join/#debian bassMonkey (n=fgrano@dsl-hkigw3-fe27de00-151.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 07:11.46 | Gnea | kevix: that's not the point - we want to get rid of the warning - it should be explicitly trusted |
| 07:12.17 | Gnea | the warning is just plain annoying |
| 07:12.27 | kevix | Gnea: should apt-spy be able to automate getting a gpg key? |
| 07:12.35 | *** join/#debian dandelo (n=dandelo@cpe-24-33-64-121.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 07:12.48 | unstable | no, but if you already have the gpg key for 2006 you should be fine, and supported by all official mirrors |
| 07:13.06 | Gnea | kevix: i'm not sure, i would rather have a debate on it first to weigh the pros and cons |
| 07:13.16 | unstable | http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 07:13.30 | Gnea | unstable: true |
| 07:13.35 | *** join/#debian Acid`X (n=tim@201.243.245.31) |
| 07:13.45 | kevix | unstable: ok. so you have a valid key and its still giving an error? file a bug. |
| 07:13.45 | unstable | This mirror is listed, but it should be delisted if it doesn't have the right gpg. |
| 07:13.53 | unstable | kevix: I did already. |
| 07:14.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 335] by debhelper |
| 07:14.07 | Gnea | but then, i have a lot of keys, so it's possible that it got rolled into that |
| 07:14.12 | unstable | kevix: You're missing the point, I just wanted someone to verify the bug also. |
| 07:14.24 | unstable | I only have 2 keys, 2006 key, and marillat. |
| 07:14.29 | Gnea | unstable: still working on it |
| 07:14.49 | kevix | unstable: it would be the responsibilty of the mirror operatator to get an updated key? |
| 07:14.53 | Acid`X | unstable, should i get the keys before or after dist-upgrade? |
| 07:15.17 | kevix | Acid`X: keys should be gotten before a upDATE |
| 07:15.31 | Gnea | strike that, i only have a few keys |
| 07:16.45 | *** part/#debian xapaho (n=xapaho@bdv75-4-82-226-115-75.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:17.26 | Gnea | unstable: okay, i just verified on 2 systems that the perr1.net is covered under the 2006 key |
| 07:17.34 | Gnea | er, peer1 |
| 07:18.04 | Gnea | unstable: how many keys do you have with: gpg --list-keys ? |
| 07:18.19 | Acid`X | weird |
| 07:18.21 | Acid`X | -su: apt-key: command not found |
| 07:18.37 | Gnea | how's that weird? |
| 07:18.52 | Acid`X | command not found o.O |
| 07:19.00 | Gnea | so install it |
| 07:19.16 | Acid`X | didnt find any package with that name |
| 07:19.16 | unstable | Gnea: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/h5UeFS16.html |
| 07:19.18 | Acid`X | ;s |
| 07:19.52 | Gnea | Acid`X: which branch are you using? |
| 07:19.56 | kevix | Acid`X: its in the 'apt' package at least on sid |
| 07:20.12 | Acid`X | Gnea, sarge dist-upgrading to sid |
| 07:20.22 | kevix | Acid`X: why? |
| 07:20.44 | Gnea | Acid`X: upgrade, then dist-upgrade |
| 07:21.14 | kevix | Acid`X: you should not upgrade to sid just to get apt-key |
| 07:21.15 | Gnea | unstable: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/w2cAj284.html |
| 07:21.34 | Gnea | teletrantwo:/etc# dpkg -S /usr/bin/apt-key |
| 07:21.34 | Gnea | apt: /usr/bin/apt-key |
| 07:21.45 | Gnea | there could be a backport |
| 07:22.25 | kevix | Gnea: that would be a better option. but would sarge rep.s have a gpg key"? |
| 07:22.40 | Acid`X | kevix, im updating to sid to have fun :] |
| 07:22.41 | Gnea | kevix: NAFAIK |
| 07:22.54 | *** join/#debian kristalino (n=kristali@LNeuilly-152-21-126-73.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:23.05 | kevix | Acid`X: hang on, its a bumpy ride x-) |
| 07:23.36 | *** join/#debian seemawn (n=seemawn@p54A9B16B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:23.40 | Acid`X | is there any way to only update apt? |
| 07:23.58 | unstable | Acid`X: apt-get install apt-get |
| 07:24.13 | *** join/#debian ctd (i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au) |
| 07:24.16 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 07:24.26 | unstable | or; apt-get install apt |
| 07:24.26 | Acid`X | lol not found >.< |
| 07:24.27 | unstable | rather |
| 07:24.28 | ctd | is this #ubuntu? |
| 07:24.34 | Acid`X | !ubuntu |
| 07:24.34 | dpkg | it has been said that ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian.. |
| 07:24.35 | deadcat | ctd: no |
| 07:24.38 | ctd | OK! |
| 07:24.52 | Acid`X | deadcat, >.< im tryin ;P |
| 07:25.10 | *** join/#debian b0xy (n=b0xy@65.255.135.160) |
| 07:25.20 | Kernel_Core | I want to install a RPM file I get this error , what is wrong ?! <------- error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - Function not implemented (38) |
| 07:25.26 | Kernel_Core | error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm |
| 07:25.39 | Gnea | Kernel_Core: install alien |
| 07:25.44 | kevix | Acid`X: when you want a 'sid' or 'testing' package for stable, its called backporting |
| 07:25.48 | *** part/#debian zebalin4 (n=al@adsl-71-143-30-251.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 07:25.53 | unstable | Kernel_Core: What are you trying to install? |
| 07:26.17 | Kernel_Core | unstable: ASTERISK.1.2.4 |
| 07:26.30 | kevix | Kernel_Core: what is wrong with the stuff in unstable ? |
| 07:26.31 | Kernel_Core | with h323 module |
| 07:26.37 | Acid`X | kevix, i'm moving from stable to unstable |
| 07:26.47 | Kernel_Core | kevix: it doesn't support H323 |
| 07:26.49 | unstable | Kernel_Core: What version of debian are you using? |
| 07:27.07 | Kernel_Core | unstable: testing/unstalbe :) |
| 07:27.26 | kevix | Acid`X: it is recommeded to jump from stable to testing and then to sid. it is safer. |
| 07:27.26 | unstable | Kernel_Core: apt-get install asterisk |
| 07:27.33 | unstable | And you're done, that will install 1.2.4 with h323 |
| 07:27.44 | Kernel_Core | unstable: I know , but asterisk-h323 doesn't work |
| 07:27.53 | Acid`X | kevix, damn, its kinda late then :(, wish me luck i guess |
| 07:28.08 | unstable | Kernel_Core: someone I don't think installing an asterisk rpm is going to make it work. |
| 07:28.11 | kevix | !info asterisk-h323 |
| 07:28.18 | dpkg | asterisk-h323: (asterisk H.323 VoIP channel), section comm, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.4.dfsg-6 (sid), Packaged size: 100 kB, Installed size: 268 kB |
| 07:28.40 | kevix | Kernel_Core: debian is on that sh#$t! |
| 07:28.46 | Kernel_Core | unstable: asterisk-h323 depends on libopenh323-1.18.0 which isnot availabe ! |
| 07:29.22 | unstable | Kernel_Core: it installs fine for me. |
| 07:29.32 | *** join/#debian dorileo (n=dorileo@201.22.173.212.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 07:29.33 | unstable | Kernel_Core: put your /etc/apt/sources.list file on www.rafb.net/paste |
| 07:29.47 | kevix | Kernel_Core: if that does not get fixed, you can at least minimize you errors by using the base asterick package |
| 07:29.54 | Kernel_Core | unstable: would you please to send me your sources.list file ?! |
| 07:30.45 | Kernel_Core | kevix: I can't get back because asterisk 1.2.4 has some REALTIME features which I can't give it up |
| 07:32.35 | Kernel_Core | unstable:http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/eOGmOs54.html have a look here plz |
| 07:34.25 | kevix | Kernel_Core: I see a mix or stable/sarge and unstable repos |
| 07:34.36 | Kernel_Core | kevix: so ? |
| 07:34.43 | unstable | Kernel_Core: type this as root... `echo "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main" > /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update && apt-get install asterisk;` |
| 07:35.08 | unstable | Kernel_Core: and your sources.list is ugly |
| 07:35.12 | kevix | unstable: he has that repo. |
| 07:35.36 | unstable | kevix: I know. This will give him one repo. |
| 07:35.56 | kevix | unstable: ohhhh. you want him to get rid of the other repos? |
| 07:35.58 | unstable | one line |
| 07:36.11 | Kernel_Core | unstable: what do you suggest ? which lines should be changed ? |
| 07:36.35 | unstable | Kernel_Core: I dunno what you system is doing..I can only image how you have it setup. |
| 07:36.42 | unstable | Kernel_Core: Are you using stable or unstable? |
| 07:36.47 | Kernel_Core | unstable: The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 07:36.47 | Kernel_Core | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.47 | Kernel_Core | E: Broken packages |
| 07:36.53 | Kernel_Core | unstable: unstable |
| 07:36.58 | Gnea | kevix: since when was that the recommendation? i've gone straight from sarge to sid plenty of times and have been fine |
| 07:37.43 | unstable | Kernel_Core: Does your sources.list have one line in it now? |
| 07:38.12 | kevix | Gnea: not sure, but I think Ive seen others say it. I know that going from stable to new-stable is not supported. |
| 07:38.42 | Kernel_Core | unstable: yes |
| 07:38.49 | unstable | You can upgrade from sarge to sid, but it is recommened that you don't by the devs.(from what I've seen.) |
| 07:38.50 | Kernel_Core | unstable: it has just one LINE |
| 07:39.17 | Kernel_Core | unstable: how do I upgrade from sarge to SID ? |
| 07:39.22 | Gnea | kevix: there's nothing wrong with jumping straight into sid from sarge - testing/etch is its own block right now that's going to get the freeze within a few months |
| 07:39.25 | *** join/#debian cahoot (n=radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 07:39.26 | unstable | You also need the latest version of each before each upgrade, so you need sarge in your sources, then dist-upgrade, then etch, upgrade your kernel, dist-upgrade, then sid in your sources, dist-upgrade |
| 07:39.33 | Acid`X | how can i check what packages do i have installed? |
| 07:39.40 | unstable | quiet an annoying process actually. |
| 07:39.45 | unstable | Acid`X: dpkg -al |
| 07:40.02 | Gnea | Acid`X: dpkg -al | grep ii |
| 07:40.08 | unstable | Kernel_Core: type apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 07:40.11 | kevix | Acid`X: dpkg -l and dpkg --get-selections |
| 07:40.14 | unstable | Kernel_Core: What does uname -r tell you? |
| 07:40.38 | Acid`X | ty |
| 07:41.01 | Kernel_Core | unstable:2.4.27-2-386 |
| 07:41.25 | unstable | Kernel_Core: You probably want to install 2.6.15*, then reboot. so udev plays nicely |
| 07:42.20 | unstable | Kernel_Core: apt-get update && apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-1-686; update-grub; reboot; |
| 07:42.35 | unstable | Kernel_Core: When the system comes back; apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get install asterisk; |
| 07:44.25 | *** join/#debian dorileo (n=dorileo@201.22.173.212.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 07:44.53 | *** join/#debian roxy_ (n=user@71.249.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 07:45.33 | Kernel_Core | unstable: thank you |
| 07:46.16 | *** join/#debian nlight (n=nlight@85.187.173.231) |
| 07:49.17 | roxy_ | I stopped all nfs service on my machine, but when I do "/etc/init.d/cupsys start" I got: dcupsd: Child exited with status 98! |
| 07:50.16 | Acid`X | brb |
| 07:50.42 | *** join/#debian ootput (n=Landon@c211-30-28-55.rivrw8.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 07:50.43 | Gnea | roxy_: cups and nfs have nothing to do with each other |
| 07:50.46 | kevix | roxy_: check you /var/logs/messages or other logs and of course check http://bugs.debian.org/ |
| 07:51.23 | roxy_ | Gnea: from the cups faq: Another process is using the port that cupsd listens to (default 631). It might be the rpc.rquotad deamon. Either disable this deamon or make sure cupsd starts before nfs. |
| 07:51.45 | unstable | Kernel_Core: tell me if everything works out ok |
| 07:52.00 | *** join/#debian seemawn (n=seemawn@p54A9B16B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:52.07 | Gnea | roxy_: as root: netstat -nap | grep 631 <-- on the far right it will say what program is controlling that port |
| 07:52.47 | *** join/#debian jussi (n=jussi@port190.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 07:53.21 | roxy_ | Gnea: thanks but I tried it already and nothing. :-( I just don't know where to look anymore. |
| 07:53.33 | *** join/#debian F29 (n=ghost@201.214.212.237) |
| 07:54.09 | Gnea | roxy_: ok, make sure all /etc/init.d/nfs* are stopped, then stop cupsys |
| 07:54.15 | roxy_ | but I have in the log: StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 00000000:631 - Address already in use |
| 07:55.12 | roxy_ | Gnea: everything stopped. Start cupsys now ? |
| 07:56.41 | Gnea | roxy_: yup |
| 07:56.51 | *** join/#debian SaLoMoN (n=SaLoMoN@p54A8995C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:57.00 | Kernel_Core | unstable: if I copy chan_h323.so from elsewhere to /usr/lib/modules/asterisk , is it Okey ? |
| 07:57.47 | roxy_ | Gnea: same message... |
| 07:58.00 | deadcat | Kernel_Core: try and see |
| 07:58.26 | Kernel_Core | deadcat: do you have this channel ?! :) |
| 07:58.34 | Kernel_Core | if yes would you please to share it with me ? |
| 07:58.35 | unstable | Kernel_Core: no idea. But I bet if you /join #asterisk they will give you better answers then I will. |
| 07:59.27 | Kernel_Core | unstable: 99% of users there are BOT |
| 07:59.46 | *** join/#debian blacke (n=blacke@213.114.209.88) |
| 07:59.48 | Kernel_Core | join there , during last hour nobody spoke ! |
| 08:00.18 | kevix | roxy_: I am reading http://bugs.debian.org/cupsys and your bugs are listed under 'Resolved bugs'. |
| 08:00.21 | deadcat | Kernel_Core: if you dont try we will never know if it works or not |
| 08:00.42 | Kernel_Core | deadcat: do you have this file ? |
| 08:00.45 | *** join/#debian cmatei (n=cmatei@home-307461.b.astral.ro) |
| 08:01.43 | deadcat | Kernel_Core: where? |
| 08:02.12 | *** join/#debian auk (n=scott@h-69-3-211-36.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 08:03.07 | Kernel_Core | ast_h323.so |
| 08:03.18 | deadcat | WHERE? |
| 08:03.43 | Kernel_Core | it should be in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 08:03.50 | deadcat | dont have asterisk |
| 08:04.06 | Kernel_Core | Okey |
| 08:04.07 | roxy_ | kevix: found it, thanks a lot. (I am very new to debian, I will look debian bug first next time before asking :-) |
| 08:04.11 | *** join/#debian Isil`Zha (n=mail@155.69.173.70) |
| 08:06.09 | *** join/#debian _SerhaT_ (n=SerhaT@84-245-22-56.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 08:06.11 | *** join/#debian jmk (i=jmk7tj@211.219.253.64) |
| 08:07.08 | kevix | roxy_: if that info does not help, you can 'reopen' the bug. |
| 08:07.52 | *** join/#debian [Jamez] (n=[jamez]@c-68-43-139-9.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 08:08.23 | *** join/#debian close_to_debian (n=manu@202.56.249.12) |
| 08:08.34 | close_to_debian | How do i lit installed packages |
| 08:08.50 | Gnea | close_to_debian: got a match? |
| 08:08.58 | kevix | close_to_debian: dpkg -l and dpkg --get-selections |
| 08:08.59 | close_to_debian | i mean files in a installed package |
| 08:09.15 | freeone3000 | hmm> |
| 08:09.17 | freeone3000 | lit? |
| 08:09.21 | close_to_debian | i installed gnuboy-x cannot find binary |
| 08:09.28 | Acid`X | freeone3000, list ;p |
| 08:09.38 | freeone3000 | echo $PATH; |
| 08:09.40 | close_to_debian | *list |
| 08:09.58 | freeone3000 | ls /usr/bin/*boy*; ls /bin/*boy*; |
| 08:10.13 | Gnea | no |
| 08:10.25 | Gnea | dpkg --contents some.deb |
| 08:10.29 | Acid`X | freeone3000, i want a girl :( |
| 08:10.49 | *** join/#debian chopp (n=chopp@S01060040f484151f.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 08:10.52 | Gnea | close_to_debian: you need to have the actual .deb file for that, though |
| 08:10.55 | kevix | close_to_debian: this info is also in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list |
| 08:11.13 | freeone3000 | Acid`X: Then why are you using debian? :{ |
| 08:11.16 | freeone3000 | *:P |
| 08:11.23 | freeone3000 | Though :{ might be suitable, as well. |
| 08:11.42 | close_to_debian | Thanks, i found that |
| 08:11.52 | close_to_debian | pl |
| 08:11.55 | close_to_debian | ok |
| 08:12.08 | Acid`X | freeone3000, i though i could fix that with apt-get install girl |
| 08:12.24 | Gnea | LMAO |
| 08:12.42 | kevix | Acid`X: apt-get install dog works! |
| 08:12.56 | Acid`X | hehe |
| 08:13.10 | Acid`X | kevix, you run sid or you backport to sarge? |
| 08:14.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 342] by debhelper |
| 08:14.30 | *** join/#debian ft (i=irc@i577BDB72.versanet.de) |
| 08:16.37 | kevix | Acid`X: I curretnly run sid on my desktop and sarge on my laptop |
| 08:17.04 | [Jamez] | Anybody have any problems having USB devices not show up in lsusb or /proc/usb/ ? I don't even see any information in dmesg when I plug the device in. I'm very confused. |
| 08:17.13 | Acid`X | kevix, okiedokie |
| 08:17.29 | *** join/#debian chopp (n=chopp@S01060040f484151f.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 08:17.54 | *** join/#debian mohua (n=panther@opensource.geek.nz) |
| 08:18.06 | kevix | [Jamez]: Any messages in /var/log/messages when you plug it in? does it light up (if possible)? |
| 08:18.35 | [Jamez] | kevix: No, no information in /var/log/messages- Its a PSP so its self powered. |
| 08:19.04 | *** join/#debian cphsu (n=cphsu@60-248-71-188.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 08:19.06 | [Jamez] | kevix: the cable and device are fine- my windows box is more then willing to work with it. and yes, the modules are loaded :) |
| 08:19.54 | kevix | [Jamez]: then there should be some message in /var/log/messages about the loading and such... |
| 08:20.26 | freeone3000 | If I was going to use an IRC bot, say, to share files... not on dal.net or anything... which one should I use? |
| 08:20.37 | kevix | [Jamez]: what kind of device is it? webcam, usb key, keyboard,... |
| 08:20.37 | [Jamez] | kevix: You'd think so, but there isn't :) Unfortunatly its the only USB device I have so I can't do much checking with it. It also bothers me that it used to work in debian before I reinstalled |
| 08:20.48 | [Jamez] | kevix: Sony PSP (mass storage device) |
| 08:21.25 | kevix | [Jamez]: did you do a kernel upgrade? are you still running sid or ? |
| 08:21.49 | *** join/#debian R_engel (n=Vladimir@ip72-51.dialup.wplus.net) |
| 08:22.36 | Acid`X | kevix, so you said is better to dist-upgrade to etch then sid? |
| 08:22.40 | [Jamez] | kevix: I did a total re-install a few days ago. I was using the 2.4.6 kernel "out of the box" before. I've tried both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels before asking anything. I also didn't see any thing that I"ve googled that helped. Most pages just say its a standard USB mass storage device and should mount fine |
| 08:23.09 | *** join/#debian chopp (n=chopp@S01060040f484151f.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 08:23.14 | [Jamez] | er "I was using a 2.6 kernel" out of the box. its 3:30 am, I'm a little slow thinking today ;) |
| 08:23.57 | kevix | Acid`X: it seem Gnea thinks not. I may be confused. so I'd do an upgrade to sid. |
| 08:24.00 | chopp | sorry people, xchat-systray doesn't seem to work with fluxbox to well. ;) |
| 08:24.46 | [Jamez] | I'd be less upset by this if I'd at least get an error in one of my logs :\ |
| 08:24.59 | Acid`X | kevix, you did etch/sid or sid only? |
| 08:25.02 | kevix | [Jamez]: yea. usb msd are pretty basic stuff. may be its a usb id issue. |
| 08:25.31 | kevix | Acid`X: this machine has always had sid. |
| 08:25.33 | weasel00 | kevix : usb errors would be in the system startup logs? |
| 08:25.35 | [Jamez] | kevix: Nah, it would at least list it in lsusb if it was, I'm sure. and since it used to work just fine w/a out of the box debian install... yeah. |
| 08:26.27 | kevix | [Jamez]: for comparions, get a live cd - knoppix or similar and see what it reports for modules, problems.... |
| 08:26.39 | *** part/#debian cphsu (n=cphsu@60-248-71-188.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 08:27.12 | [Jamez] | kevix: good idea. I'll have to find a blank CD somewhere. I was just hoping somebody had a similar problem w/another USB device before me |
| 08:27.38 | kevix | [Jamez]: do you have m$ on this machine, and if so, did it work? |
| 08:28.03 | [Jamez] | kevix: I would never run MS on this box. I have it on another and it worked fine. |
| 08:28.30 | kevix | [Jamez]: then maybe its a usb HW issue? hope not. |
| 08:29.00 | *** join/#debian Huahua (n=hua_@221.172.51.57) |
| 08:29.07 | [Jamez] | kevix: I would doubt it since it was working days ago but ya never know. could be. I dont' see many other options. |
| 08:30.46 | [Jamez] | off topic, anybody know if a "swap partition" is an actual partition type or just another way of saying that a partition has a "swap filesystem" on it? |
| 08:30.52 | ootput | deadcat: are you hosting that clearlooks package? :) |
| 08:31.18 | deadcat | ya |
| 08:31.25 | deadcat | let me get link for ya |
| 08:31.41 | deadcat | ootput: too bad i cant figure how to setup a real repo.. like professional repo. )= |
| 08:32.00 | deadcat | http://debian.sshonly.sytes.net/i386/gtk2-engines-clearlooks_2.7.4-1_i386.deb |
| 08:32.04 | SerajewelKS | [Jamez]: both |
| 08:32.25 | deadcat | if you want round corner, change from 7.4 to 7.3 |
| 08:32.26 | [Jamez] | SerajewelKS: interesting. Thanks. |
| 08:32.29 | ootput | deadcat: yaay |
| 08:32.31 | weasel00 | [jamez] : sacrifice a chicken... works for me when things get to that point =) |
| 08:33.05 | [Jamez] | weasel00: Chicken you say? I've tried a goat and a cat. maybe the chicken will be more helpful. |
| 08:33.17 | SerajewelKS | [Jamez]: FYI it is theoretically possible to use the same partition for swap on a linux/windows dual-boot, if you can get windows to format the partition as FAT/NTFS each boot, and just add an mkswap command to the linux boot. |
| 08:33.32 | Acid`X | weasel00, or refresh the computer with a glass of water, works too |
| 08:33.39 | weasel00 | [james] : i think it comes from them being around to run around w/o thier heads ;) |
| 08:33.57 | weasel00 | acid |
| 08:34.09 | SerajewelKS | [Jamez]: what exactly is the problem you're having |
| 08:34.39 | weasel00 | acid'x : friend lost it working on a server and filled it up will all sorts of voodoo 'n hoodoo on the case.. damned thing has been running great since for years |
| 08:35.03 | *** join/#debian cphsu (n=cphsu@60-248-71-188.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 08:35.07 | [Jamez] | SerajewelKS: my USB device problem? I have a Sony PSP. standard usb mass storage device. lsusb doesn't show it when its connected. also no information in any of my logs when its plugged in, or removed.. strange since it worked before I re-installed debian. |
| 08:35.29 | SerajewelKS | [Jamez]: other devices work when connected to the same port? |
| 08:35.44 | [Jamez] | SerajewelKS: Thats the problem. I have no other USB devices... I never cared for USB much. |
| 08:35.44 | Acid`X | weasel00, i want a dreamcatcher for mine xD |
| 08:35.57 | SerajewelKS | [Jamez]: kinda hard to debug then ;) might be a bad port. |
| 08:36.01 | weasel00 | hehehe |
| 08:36.07 | *** join/#debian jita (n=tejinder@unaffiliated/jita) |
| 08:36.21 | [Jamez] | SerajewelKS: Yeah, I was hoping not to hear that too often, but that seems to be the conclusion everybody has. |
| 08:36.21 | jita | how do i install packages from unstable repositoris? |
| 08:36.27 | SerajewelKS | [Jamez]: or bad cable, or bad PSP |
| 08:36.43 | kevix | [Jamez]: you prefer db9, db25 to usb? |
| 08:36.43 | [Jamez] | SerajewelKS: fortunatly the PSP works fine when connected to a windows box |
| 08:36.46 | *** join/#debian ElectricElf (n=dbharris@debian/developer/dbharris) |
| 08:36.59 | SerajewelKS | [Jamez]: hmm, dual-boot windows and try plugging it in there? |
| 08:37.03 | *** join/#debian HazyNRG (n=HazyNRG@lns-bzn-36-82-251-1-18.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 08:37.07 | weasel00 | [jamez] : can you borrow a mouse or something from someone just to test the port? |
| 08:37.11 | SerajewelKS | [Jamez]: do you see the hub itself listed when you lsusb? |
| 08:37.39 | [Jamez] | SerajewelKS: Yeah, it shows the hub |
| 08:37.58 | SerajewelKS | [Jamez]: odd... i would suspect the port if the cable and psp work fine |
| 08:37.58 | *** join/#debian scytheman (i=scythema@p54B62DD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:38.09 | SerajewelKS | [Jamez]: but see if you can get ahold of another device to test the port |
| 08:38.10 | [Jamez] | kimo:/var/log# lsusb ; Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 ; Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 08:39.14 | [Jamez] | SerajewelKS: Actually now that I think about it I have a USB camera that never worked in linux. Did give me some nice errors after connecting it. Lets see if I can't find it. |
| 08:40.24 | weasel00 | [jamez] : the camera making errors would knock physical hw port issues off the list of possibilities =) |
| 08:41.23 | *** join/#debian ice_1963 (n=gary@c-68-40-240-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 08:41.26 | *** join/#debian tonsxchat (n=tonsofpc@ool-435385da.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 08:41.54 | tonsxchat | where can I find a list of the ftp servers that have the stuff on the cds not in ISOs (I need two files) |
| 08:42.16 | *** join/#debian TiffOn (n=TiffOn@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 08:42.18 | ice_1963 | hello |
| 08:42.43 | [Jamez] | Hmm.. Found it. no messages. is it possible that the USB modules are not properly loaded or can we definitivly call this a dead USB port issue? |
| 08:43.49 | *** mode/#debian [+o ElectricElf] by ChanServ |
| 08:43.55 | *** mode/#debian [+J 10,5] by ElectricElf |
| 08:44.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 350] by debhelper |
| 08:44.07 | *** part/#debian jita (n=tejinder@unaffiliated/jita) |
| 08:45.12 | opqdonut | [Jamez]: you need to have uhci-hcd or ohci-hcd depending on your chipset |
| 08:45.26 | opqdonut | ehci-hcd for usb 2.0 |
| 08:45.32 | [Jamez] | opqdonut: I had uhci-hcd loaded |
| 08:45.42 | [Jamez] | opqdonut: which debian auto-detected on install |
| 08:45.58 | *** mode/#debian [+J 20,8] by ElectricElf |
| 08:46.00 | kevix | tonsxchat: did you want a specific deb package? |
| 08:46.22 | opqdonut | okay, well then you should something in dmesg upon connecting a usb device |
| 08:46.29 | tonsxchat | kevix: no, I want two files off of the Alpha CD (milo-eb164 and linloader.exe) |
| 08:46.33 | tonsxchat | (woody) |
| 08:46.36 | [Jamez] | opqdonut: :) I should- but I don't. |
| 08:47.09 | *** mode/#debian [+J 20,10] by ElectricElf |
| 08:47.28 | streuner | !beer ElectricElf for his *hard* work |
| 08:47.56 | *** part/#debian cphsu (n=cphsu@60-248-71-188.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 08:49.02 | *** join/#debian blaamann (n=rune@144.84-48-18.nextgentel.com) |
| 08:49.03 | *** join/#debian SlayerXP (n=tram@ti521110a080-7925.bb.online.no) |
| 08:49.29 | streuner | ElectricElf: why not disable 'J' totally just *now*? |
| 08:49.55 | ElectricElf | streuner: Working on it |
| 08:50.30 | unstable | ElectricElf: take off mode r also |
| 08:50.40 | lilo | yeah, you have +r |
| 08:50.43 | lilo | that's your problem |
| 08:50.47 | lilo | I'd set +J back at this point |
| 08:50.47 | unstable | Look how small this place is now |
| 08:50.48 | ElectricElf | I was just looking it up :) |
| 08:50.52 | lilo | +J should be fine |
| 08:50.57 | ElectricElf | lilo: Used to be +R I thought :) |
| 08:50.59 | *** mode/#debian [-r] by ElectricElf |
| 08:50.59 | lilo | but +r == registered users only |
| 08:51.02 | unstable | Who keeps putting r on, I saw dondelelcaro take it off at least once |
| 08:51.03 | *** mode/#debian [+J 8,5] by ElectricElf |
| 08:51.10 | lilo | ElectricElf: +R is "only registered users can talk unless voiced" |
| 08:51.14 | SlayerXP | morning chaps |
| 08:51.29 | opqdonut | +r/R seems pretty dumb imho |
| 08:51.35 | unstable | That's why it's so slow in here, only 350 people instead of 800 |
| 08:51.36 | streuner | lilo: i have no idea why '+r' always set... |
| 08:51.39 | lilo | unstable: it's probably a weird thing to have in a general support channel unless you want to put a lot of time into overflow channel greeting |
| 08:51.49 | unstable | opqdonut: No it isn't. It's great actually. Just a time and place for it. |
| 08:51.58 | opqdonut | here i meant |
| 08:52.13 | opqdonut | we are a public support chan |
| 08:52.20 | lilo | we're shooting for about 75% registered users in any snapshot of the running network (we're around 55%, but less when the network is reupped as today) |
| 08:52.23 | *** join/#debian iceman (n=iceman@p71n13.ruraltel.net) |
| 08:52.23 | *** join/#debian Geren (i=Geren@dyn-bway-129-167.dyn.columbia.edu) |
| 08:52.33 | weasel00 | we used to mod channels like that to force folks to read the chat rules.. then they would be granted voice |
| 08:52.34 | lilo | but even with the maximum number of registered users, 1/4 of the users are going to be newbies |
| 08:52.38 | kevix | tonsxchat: http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-alpha/current/MILO/ |
| 08:52.42 | lilo | that will probably never change |
| 08:52.54 | Geren | hi, i have a problem with irc that i hope someone can help me with |
| 08:52.58 | tonsxchat | it's sunday, and it's 3:50 am in eastern north america, give it a few hours lilo :) |
| 08:53.01 | lilo | weasel00: that's a little burnt out though 8) |
| 08:53.18 | tonsxchat | thanks kevix |
| 08:53.24 | lilo | in a general support channel, +r will always add considerably to your work load |
| 08:53.29 | weasel00 | lilo : well its been about 5 years since i was deeply involved with irc ;) |
| 08:53.38 | *** join/#debian soulreaper_ (i=b@p54A66015.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:53.38 | lilo | weasel00: then you're probably much more relaxed now 8) |
| 08:53.41 | *** join/#debian zcot (n=zcot@user-0c6s5o5.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 08:53.51 | Geren | i tried to connect to an irc server, and the connection was unsuccessful. But afterwards, my network in the dorm got cut off, and the administrator said "an attempt to connect to command and control node on port 6667, machine may be under remote control" |
| 08:54.10 | weasel00 | lilo : that and the 3 year hiatas from working IT =) |
| 08:54.11 | Geren | and when i checked the ip address that the admin gave me |
| 08:54.17 | Geren | it matches that irc server that i tried to connect |
| 08:54.24 | zcot | howdy.. looking for an .avi player |
| 08:54.28 | Geren | i mean its registered under that server's company |
| 08:54.37 | Geren | and i'm pretty sure i dun have a worm on my coputer |
| 08:54.40 | lilo | Geren: six words: port 8001, not port 6667 :) |
| 08:54.48 | *** join/#debian streppel (n=root@84.19.178.244) |
| 08:54.55 | opqdonut | zcot: mplayer is nice, remember to also emerge win32codecs |
| 08:54.57 | weasel00 | *laugh |
| 08:55.01 | Geren | lilo, what do you mean? |
| 08:55.15 | opqdonut | zcot: some people prefer xine, haven't really used it myself |
| 08:55.19 | Geren | basically, everytime i try to connect to that irc server, my internet gets cut off from school |
| 08:55.24 | Geren | as if i am under some remote control |
| 08:55.28 | weasel00 | geren : change your port settings used to connect to the other server |
| 08:55.29 | Geren | but that irc server is down always |
| 08:55.39 | Geren | weasel, but why is it causing a problem? |
| 08:55.41 | lilo | Geren: 6667 makes some administrators nervous |
| 08:55.47 | Geren | i checked my machine, and it has no virus |
| 08:56.04 | Geren | lilo, but i connect to freenode on 6667, and that never gets me in trouble |
| 08:56.06 | lilo | oic |
| 08:56.08 | *** join/#debian xcow (i=xcow@alpha.netforce.fi) |
| 08:56.13 | Geren | only when i try to connect to that particular server that my admin complains... |
| 08:56.14 | Gnea | lilo: if newbies didn't exist, the network would be pointless |
| 08:56.15 | lilo | Geren: well, then I'm too tired to be coherent :) |
| 08:56.28 | Geren | and it happened to me multiple times |
| 08:56.38 | lilo | Gnea: more to the point, if newbies didn't exist, none of us would be here :) |
| 08:56.47 | *** join/#debian gerhard (n=gerhard@h081217096096.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 08:56.48 | Gnea | lilo: :) |
| 08:56.54 | Geren | everytime i tried to connect to that server, the admin complains of "connecting to command and control node" and being "under remote control" |
| 08:57.10 | lilo | Geren: it feels as if he's speaking in tongues, doesn't it :) |
| 08:57.11 | Geren | and the strange thing is, that server is never available |
| 08:57.24 | weasel00 | geren : connecting to freenode:6667 = no issues ... connecting to foobar:6667 = your dorm admin complaining, correct? |
| 08:57.32 | Geren | weasel, yes |
| 08:57.34 | lilo | I love the way someone will start talking and the words will just stop seeming to make sense |
| 08:57.46 | lilo | sometimes people get confused |
| 08:57.55 | lilo | anyway, time for me to get some sleep |
| 08:58.01 | tonsxchat | nite lilo |
| 08:58.05 | weasel00 | lilo : omg you sleep? |
| 08:58.19 | Geren | anyone has any ideas? |
| 08:58.24 | lilo | weasel00: yes, once a week whether I need to or not |
| 08:58.24 | Geren | like what could be causing this? |
| 08:58.31 | lilo | Geren: tiredness |
| 08:58.36 | weasel00 | geren : what port does your admin want you to connect to? |
| 08:58.45 | streuner | unstable: must be a server-thingie, because the politic of #debian never was '+r' |
| 08:58.49 | weasel00 | geren : wait a sec |
| 08:58.49 | Geren | weasel100, he does not say, its an automated response |
| 08:58.57 | *** join/#debian ghenry (n=ghenry@mail.suretecsystems.com) |
| 08:58.58 | Geren | i mean i dun think the port is the problem |
| 08:59.01 | lilo | streuner: we definitely do not set +r as a default |
| 08:59.06 | Geren | cause i use freenode all the time on 6667, and never has a problem |
| 08:59.06 | *** join/#debian mogul (n=mogul@p549BC8DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:59.10 | lilo | streuner: that would break things horribly |
| 08:59.18 | *** join/#debian florin-_- (n=florin@host243-169.pool874.interbusiness.it) |
| 08:59.24 | streuner | lilo: how come, that '+r' set? (magic)? |
| 08:59.30 | weasel00 | geren : is that server on campus or out in the world someplace? |
| 08:59.33 | unstable | streuner: someone set it. |
| 08:59.36 | unstable | streuner: /lastlog +r |
| 08:59.39 | Geren | weasel, not sure |
| 08:59.44 | *** join/#debian Gokee2_Laptop (n=gokee2@24-113-12-97.wavecable.com) |
| 08:59.45 | streuner | unstable: heh |
| 08:59.50 | Geren | weasel, oh you mean the irc server i tried to connect to? |
| 08:59.53 | lilo | streuner: but maybe during a split, because it would certainly be easier |
| 08:59.55 | Geren | its out in the world somewhere |
| 09:00.04 | mogul | hi folks i need sound i have no mixer device sis7012 |
| 09:00.11 | mogul | alsa is loaded |
| 09:00.25 | Gokee2_Laptop | YES! |
| 09:00.46 | *** join/#debian spunz_ (n=spunz@h081217096096.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 09:00.56 | weasel00 | geren : odd... have you tried alternate ports or checking docs on that irc server for alternate ports...? |
| 09:01.01 | Gokee2_Laptop | I have been trying for 7 hours |
| 09:01.01 | *** join/#debian FallenHitokiri (n=blitz@p54ACDE7D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:01.04 | Gnea | mogul: how did you detect the soundcard? |
| 09:01.06 | Gokee2_Laptop | to get on here |
| 09:01.08 | roxy_ | anyway to make a debian kernel 2.6 install from a floppy? |
| 09:01.12 | Geren | weasel, no not really |
| 09:01.26 | mogul | lspci |
| 09:01.34 | SlayerXP | Gokee2_Laptop: let's hope the effort was worthwhile. |
| 09:01.34 | *** join/#debian Gokee2 (n=gokee2@24-113-12-97.wavecable.com) |
| 09:01.48 | mogul | gnea: alsaconf |
| 09:01.49 | *** join/#debian cafe_roy (n=cafe_roy@82-70-183-254.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 09:01.51 | Geren | weasel, this is the server: http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:l-vizdnUMBcJ:irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php%3Fnet%3D263%26point%3Ddays+irc+263+net+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1 |
| 09:01.51 | weasel00 | geren : change the port for that server to 8001, if that fails check the docs for that server's alternate ports |
| 09:02.04 | Gnea | mogul: sounds right, is alsamixer installed? |
| 09:02.14 | mogul | gnea: yes |
| 09:02.49 | Gnea | mogul: what message do you get when you try to run it? |
| 09:02.53 | Geren | weasel, ok i did some research on that server |
| 09:02.57 | Geren | and it says "According to the Norwegian ISP Uninett, the server is to a large extent used to control botnets." |
| 09:03.16 | mogul | gnea: it works but i dont hear something |
| 09:03.26 | weasel00 | ummm |
| 09:03.30 | mogul | gnea: i have a lot of mixer options |
| 09:03.33 | opqdonut | omg fascist |
| 09:03.48 | deadcat | i dont ahve compiz, but it seem liek the cube thing can only handle 4 workspaces? how would it look like if theres more or less than 4? how would the top and bottom look like? |
| 09:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 358] by debhelper |
| 09:04.01 | Geren | "While the term "botnet" can be used to refer to any group of bots, such as IRC bots, the word is generally used to refer to a collection of compromised machines running programs (usually referred to as worms, Trojan horses, or backdoors) under a common command and control infrastructure. A botnet's originator can control the group remotely, usually through a means such as IRC, and usually for nefarious purposes. Individual programs manif |
| 09:04.01 | Geren | est as IRC "bots". Often the command and control takes place via an IRC server or a specific channel on a public IRC network. " |
| 09:04.06 | Geren | this is from tha tarticle |
| 09:04.14 | Geren | like that server is tryiing to control my computer?? |
| 09:04.28 | Gnea | mogul: make sure you unmute master, pcm and cdrom and up from there |
| 09:04.37 | weasel00 | geren : you realize that you are trying to connect to china? |
| 09:04.38 | opqdonut | Geren: well, no can do if your isp blocks it some way |
| 09:04.44 | Gnea | mogul: are you logged in as user or root? |
| 09:05.02 | opqdonut | Geren: you can of course use another server or ask your admin to make an exception |
| 09:05.05 | *** join/#debian lgn21st (n=root@220.114.115.21) |
| 09:05.11 | *** join/#debian chrisii (n=chr@we2-as1735.alshamil.net.ae) |
| 09:05.12 | mogul | gnea: i am logged as user |
| 09:05.12 | *** join/#debian cahoot (n=radix@82.183.196.76) |
| 09:05.19 | mogul | gnea: i try |
| 09:05.22 | Gnea | mogul: is the user in the audio group? |
| 09:05.22 | Geren | but i mean why is my internet being cut off for that? |
| 09:05.41 | Geren | like it seemst o suggest that there are people who are trying to control my computer and use it as an irc bot? |
| 09:05.48 | mogul | gnea: yes |
| 09:05.51 | opqdonut | Geren: they fear that your machinse is part of a botnet |
| 09:06.04 | Geren | opqdonut, how do they make that conclusion? |
| 09:06.08 | *** join/#debian prodope (n=neural@toronto-HSE-ppp4058161.sympatico.ca) |
| 09:06.09 | Gnea | Geren: maybe your ip once belonged to a computer with a bot |
| 09:06.17 | opqdonut | Geren: a botnet is a collection of infected computers that is used to ddos sites |
| 09:06.35 | Geren | opqdonut, so my IP was used as a bot before, and so now i'm suspected even if i'm clean??? |
| 09:06.41 | weasel00 | geren : freenode is well established so your campus network is possibly setup to allow traffic to here and blocking all outgoing traffic on :6667 explicity |
| 09:06.49 | Gnea | Geren: that's right. |
| 09:06.50 | opqdonut | Geren: they cut the net so that your box is not used to ddos |
| 09:06.59 | opqdonut | Geren: yeah, essentially |
| 09:07.14 | Geren | opqdonut, but this cutoff only happens when i try to connect to that server |
| 09:07.19 | Geren | not any other time |
| 09:07.21 | Gnea | Geren: why would you want to connect to that net anyway? |
| 09:07.31 | weasel00 | geren : 6667 was used for the popularly misused backorfice if i recall correctly..(just one example) |
| 09:07.35 | *** join/#debian mrverbose (i=YyuCLcWJ@i538745F0.versanet.de) |
| 09:07.37 | Geren | it used to work |
| 09:07.38 | *** join/#debian dmc (i=dmc@194.89.68.133) |
| 09:07.38 | opqdonut | Geren: that's because that net is used to control botnets |
| 09:07.46 | mrverbose | anyone using links2 in testing? |
| 09:07.48 | Geren | so what should i do from now on? |
| 09:07.48 | *** part/#debian [Jamez] (n=[jamez]@c-68-43-139-9.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 09:07.56 | mrverbose | it doesnt seem to work in X any more |
| 09:08.05 | opqdonut | Geren: contact admin or isp, or use another server |
| 09:08.13 | mrverbose | links2 -driver x -g |
| 09:08.13 | mrverbose | Unknown graphics driver x. |
| 09:08.13 | mrverbose | The following graphics drivers are supported: |
| 09:08.14 | mrverbose | directfb, fb, svgalib |
| 09:08.15 | *** part/#debian mrverbose (i=YyuCLcWJ@i538745F0.versanet.de) |
| 09:08.20 | Geren | ok, so if i stop connectiing to that server, i'll be fiine, right? |
| 09:08.21 | *** join/#debian mrverbose (i=YyuCLcWJ@i538745F0.versanet.de) |
| 09:08.26 | Geren | i mean they can't control my computer can they? |
| 09:08.37 | opqdonut | Geren: if youre not infected |
| 09:08.38 | weasel00 | geren : humor me... why are you trying to connect to an irc server in china? |
| 09:08.43 | *** join/#debian cahoot (n=radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 09:08.58 | Geren | weasel, it has some warez shit |
| 09:09.09 | *** join/#debian methos|n-it (n=methos@gw-097.selfnet.de) |
| 09:09.12 | Geren | but i'm pretty sure my computer is clean now |
| 09:09.21 | Geren | like i scanned it with many progrms multiple times |
| 09:09.42 | opqdonut | well, your isp is just protecting itself |
| 09:09.44 | *** join/#debian SaLoMoN (n=SaLoMoN@p54A8995C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:09.51 | opqdonut | ddos are bad publicity |
| 09:10.08 | weasel00 | geren : *presonal note* dont trust things from pan-asia & the pacific...and umm *cough* warez is bad *wags finger* |
| 09:10.23 | *** join/#debian steri (i=steri@tissit.biz) |
| 09:10.41 | opqdonut | weasel00: that sounds a bit xenophobic (yes i know it's true) |
| 09:11.17 | *** part/#debian streppel (n=root@84.19.178.244) |
| 09:11.33 | weasel00 | opqdonut : not xenophobic, experience... pan-asia prone to trojans, eastern block prone to dialers, etc... |
| 09:11.34 | Geren | so how do people become a bot in the first place |
| 09:11.38 | *** join/#debian wizzomafizzo (n=callan@dsl-125-209-144-166.wa.veridas.net) |
| 09:11.39 | Geren | do u hve to run some worm first? |
| 09:11.49 | Geren | or can u get infected by simply being in a channel? |
| 09:11.49 | *** join/#debian phobo (n=phobo@203-79-65-116.cable.paradise.net.nz) |
| 09:12.07 | opqdonut | Geren: you have to get infected by a virus |
| 09:12.21 | opqdonut | Geren: just being in a channel should not infect you |
| 09:12.24 | Geren | hmm i see |
| 09:12.29 | opqdonut | but one should be careful |
| 09:12.31 | Geren | i dont remmeber being infected by any virus |
| 09:12.38 | opqdonut | there are a lot of irc client exploits |
| 09:12.44 | liable | virus on debian? |
| 09:13.09 | Gnea | weasel00: it shifts - but yeah, the main perps are pan-asia and brazil |
| 09:13.19 | *** join/#debian poopotootti (n=poopotoo@c193-229-38-80.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 09:13.37 | Gnea | liable: due to shoddy security |
| 09:13.43 | weasel00 | geren : heres a breif on ddos http://www.garykessler.net/library/ddos.html =) |
| 09:14.16 | phobo | i have created a cronjob that looks at the loadaverage and emails me if its beyond a certain threshold (4); as it is a webserver normally this is due to apache processing complex PHP files; I have set the script to email me "ps auxf" and other diagnostics, but the most useful thing I would like is knowing which URLs are being sent to visitors. "ps" obvioulsly shows a bunch of apache processes running, but that informtion isn't us |
| 09:14.16 | phobo | eful on its own, and the apache log doesn't show which process id is responsbile for what URL.... ideas? |
| 09:14.54 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (n=lordlame@p548EE27C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:15.10 | opqdonut | phobo: #apache? |
| 09:15.16 | *** join/#debian daxxar (i=daxxar@daxxar.com) |
| 09:15.27 | weasel00 | Gnea : you are correct.. it flows around and everyone gets a turn at some point =) |
| 09:15.36 | *** part/#debian phobo (n=phobo@203-79-65-116.cable.paradise.net.nz) |
| 09:15.43 | *** join/#debian e-type (n=e-type@sourcemage/guru/e-type) |
| 09:15.47 | e-type | hi all |
| 09:16.01 | e-type | I'm a little lost in the debian configs for my adsl connection |
| 09:16.22 | e-type | the 'persist' option in my peers config file doesn't seem to do it's work |
| 09:16.38 | wizzomafizzo | How can I get the synaptics touchpad driver to NOT make firefox go back and forward just from moving the mouse? |
| 09:17.32 | e-type | could someone give me a hint as to which init script loads my interface so that I can double check the file it uses? |
| 09:17.50 | *** join/#debian tricaric (n=tricaric@ip70-171-206-197.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 09:18.06 | *** join/#debian gilianima (n=yanimax_@lab75-3-82-235-26-179.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:18.19 | kevix | e-type: vi /etc/network/interfaces and man interfaces |
| 09:18.51 | *** join/#debian quitte_ (n=quitte@stgt-d9be55f2.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 09:19.06 | e-type | wizzomafizzo: check http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/xorg.conf |
| 09:19.19 | florin-_- | can someone give me a repository where y can find qdvdauthor? |
| 09:19.29 | wizzomafizzo | Ah, thanks. |
| 09:19.32 | e-type | wizzomafizzo: there you find the bottom edge option you could mess with |
| 09:19.47 | e-type | but that would disable the feature for all applications |
| 09:19.56 | kevix | !marriat |
| 09:20.12 | cahoot | marillat? |
| 09:20.16 | kevix | !mplayer |
| 09:20.17 | dpkg | it has been said that mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 09:20.45 | wizzomafizzo | Also, is there a way I can make update grub put something on the kernel line for all kernels in stable? Exactly like the nonaltoptions in Ubuntu. |
| 09:21.10 | kevix | florin-_-: it is probably non-free and found in the marillat repo |
| 09:21.27 | e-type | kevix: I had a look at that, but there's only 'lo' at the 'auto' line, so I don't think my adsl connection gets loaded that way... |
| 09:21.35 | deadcat | i have mplayer-586 instead of 386. is taht bad? |
| 09:22.06 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (n=DimmuR@ech47.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 09:22.06 | Gnea | deadcat: uname -m produces what? |
| 09:22.24 | deadcat | 686 |
| 09:22.30 | florin-_- | kevix : as y am not an experienced user cau give me the full description of the repositorY? |
| 09:22.33 | Gnea | yes, i's bad |
| 09:22.36 | kevix | deadcat: huh. if you have a 586 or greater, it can only work faster. |
| 09:22.36 | Gnea | its' |
| 09:22.39 | Gnea | IT'S |
| 09:22.47 | deadcat | kevix: but the fucking bot... |
| 09:22.55 | *** join/#debian jahi (i=jan@pc158.kbs.uni-hannover.de) |
| 09:23.31 | kevix | deadcat: ok. didnt read the whole thing. never saw that before. |
| 09:23.55 | kevix | !marillat |
| 09:23.55 | dpkg | i guess marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> |
| 09:24.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 364] by debhelper |
| 09:24.15 | *** join/#debian SaLoMoN (n=SaLoMoN@p54A8995C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:24.46 | kevix | florin-_-: read the facts above |
| 09:25.39 | florin-_- | thanks.....anyway that should be free, i'vd read about it on an italian magazine |
| 09:25.58 | Acid`X | deadcat, hehe, alsa seems to work fine in sid :/ |
| 09:26.02 | *** join/#debian Quaternion (n=carlos@210-86-97-215.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 09:26.04 | wizzomafizzo | Well if I can't use anything like nonaltoptions for update-grub. Is there any way I can pass something like acpi=off for all of my kernels? |
| 09:26.08 | deadcat | Acid`X: cool. |
| 09:26.29 | *** join/#debian JdGordon (n=JdGordon@c211-28-227-249.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 09:26.34 | JdGordon | can any1 help me get my usb wlan card going? im trying to follow http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Netgear_MA111_USB_Wireless_Howto but im having problems with the kernel sources being needed, ive installed them and pointed the config to them but it says they arnt full or sometihng... |
| 09:26.41 | streuner | deadcat: there were/are issues in 2.6.15 kernels (emu10k1) |
| 09:26.51 | deadcat | JdGordon: load the prism2_usb driver. |
| 09:26.56 | *** join/#debian vmhobbes (n=id@ipdial-180-103.tri-isys.com) |
| 09:26.58 | kevix | florin-_-: I just checked and its not DFSG free and its in the marillat repo. |
| 09:26.58 | liable | wizzomafizzo: kopt line in menu.lst |
| 09:27.12 | deadcat | streuner: oh. i am still on 2.6.14 (= |
| 09:27.23 | e-type | brb |
| 09:27.31 | Gnea | wizzomafizzo: just edit menu.lst |
| 09:27.46 | *** join/#debian homekneet (n=chris@213.187.160.178) |
| 09:27.57 | deadcat | !compile wlan-ng |
| 09:27.57 | dpkg | hmm... compile wlan-ng is reply "1) apt-get install build-essential kernel-headers-`uname -r` 2) cd /lib/modules/`uname -r` ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r` source && ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r` build 3) download linux-wlan-ng-xxx.tar.gz, untar it, cd to it, make config, make all, make install, update-modules" |
| 09:28.08 | deadcat | JdGordon: ^^ |
| 09:28.15 | *** join/#debian astar` (n=astar@ANantes-154-1-7-40.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:28.24 | JdGordon | ok, thanx |
| 09:28.40 | *** join/#debian teror (n=teror@86.105.84.78) |
| 09:28.51 | roxy_ | I have 2 machines, with the exact same source.list. They should be able to get the same packages in'it? |
| 09:28.52 | *** join/#debian cbc (n=cbc@190.Red-80-25-248.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:28.56 | florin-_- | kevix : thanks........realy great job u'r doing |
| 09:28.58 | teror | hi there. I wanna add another IP to eth0. how can I do that (via bash) |
| 09:28.59 | wizzomafizzo | liable, that worked like a charm, thanks. |
| 09:29.03 | deadcat | JdGordon: you MIGHT want to use this script to bring the card down/up: http://sshonly.sytes.net/config/home/deadcat/bin/prism2-wifi |
| 09:29.05 | liable | yw |
| 09:29.33 | teror | folks? |
| 09:29.39 | JdGordon | thanx deadcat |
| 09:29.40 | raf256 | what in the heaves name! |
| 09:29.43 | *** join/#debian e-type (n=pieter@185-95.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 09:29.48 | e-type | re |
| 09:29.48 | wizzomafizzo | And one last thing. How can disable the system beep throughout the system? |
| 09:29.49 | teror | I'm used with Mandriva, but seems debian is a little bit different |
| 09:29.52 | raf256 | why the f there STILL is no thunderbird 1.5 for debian, even unstab;e |
| 09:30.13 | weasel00 | is there a way to get aptitude to clear the screen on exit.. no wait thats dumb.. why am i even pressing enter..argh |
| 09:30.18 | kevix | !info thunderbird |
| 09:30.19 | e-type | wizzomafizzo: unload pcspkr module? |
| 09:30.22 | liable | !why is thunderbird-1.5 not in sid? |
| 09:30.23 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, liable |
| 09:30.29 | liable | meh |
| 09:30.30 | *** join/#debian koreci (i=hja123@bb219-74-20-18.singnet.com.sg) |
| 09:30.33 | wizzomafizzo | e-type: How? |
| 09:30.48 | koreci | 行了 |
| 09:31.08 | e-type | 'modprobe -r pcspkr' but it'll probably load automatically on boot |
| 09:31.10 | kevix | !haxx |
| 09:31.19 | e-type | wizzomafizzo: not sure how to disable that the debian way |
| 09:31.26 | streuner | liable: s/sid/testing/? |
| 09:31.33 | roxy_ | When I do "apt-cache search cupsys" the result is not the same on both machine. Appart from source.list, where should I look? |
| 09:31.35 | koreci | sorry, i thought i was in -zh. |
| 09:31.44 | wizzomafizzo | Ok, well I'm sure it'll be in a wiki or something, thanks. |
| 09:31.57 | liable | streuner: it doesn't work for sid? or it should be unstable? |
| 09:32.01 | *** join/#debian aktalo (n=aktalo@h85n2fls31o874.telia.com) |
| 09:32.10 | weasel00 | ls |
| 09:32.26 | streuner | liable: there is a factoid for testing, but not for sid/unstable, IIRC |
| 09:32.31 | Acid`X | how do i check in wich bus is my agp card runing? lspci doesnt show it :/ |
| 09:32.41 | liable | yeah, works for testing, not unstable. |
| 09:33.13 | *** part/#debian aktalo (n=aktalo@h85n2fls31o874.telia.com) |
| 09:33.16 | kevix | Acid`X: many /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 09:33.43 | Acid`X | kevix, havent run xorg yet |
| 09:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 371] by debhelper |
| 09:34.03 | kevix | Acid`X: ok. /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 09:34.05 | liable | raf256: because it isnt packaged yet obviously.. :P |
| 09:34.12 | Acid`X | kevix, neither |
| 09:34.19 | *** join/#debian war92 (n=war@iniquity.net) |
| 09:34.35 | raf256 | liable: damn |
| 09:34.40 | kevix | Acid`X: is there any file in /var/log/ that starts with X and ends in .log ? |
| 09:34.53 | Acid`X | kevix, none |
| 09:34.57 | liable | raf256: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=thunderbird-1.5 |
| 09:34.58 | weasel00 | hmm... http://foobar.co//foo/bar.php .. why is my site doing "//" after the dn? is this an alias issue? |
| 09:35.02 | kevix | Acid`X: have you insatlled X ? |
| 09:35.44 | Acid`X | kevix, im configuring xorg and is asking for the the bus |
| 09:36.12 | SlayerXP | now here's a beginner question: what's the "debian way" of changing a machine's hostname? |
| 09:36.14 | kevix | Acid`X: dont input anything. it usually does not needed it. you can fix it later. |
| 09:36.44 | kevix | !hostname |
| 09:36.45 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
| 09:36.46 | liable | SlayerXP: /msg dpkg hostname |
| 09:36.46 | *** join/#debian abauer (n=abauer@p5498F205.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:37.02 | Acid`X | kevix, just did it hehe, lets see if it works |
| 09:37.23 | SlayerXP | liable: that's what I thought, I just assumed there was amore debian way. |
| 09:37.58 | liable | SlayerXP: i think base-config might do it too iirc |
| 09:37.58 | streuner | SlayerXP: you usually don't change the hostname many times... |
| 09:38.46 | *** join/#debian Wille88 (i=wille@dsl-jnsgw1-ffe7c000-155.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 09:39.00 | *** join/#debian CoolCubix (n=coolcubi@ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-11-202.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:39.06 | *** join/#debian MrNaz (n=pirch@203-214-45-116.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 09:39.11 | streuner | s/don't/ / |
| 09:39.16 | *** join/#debian blame (n=eXqUiSiT@unaffiliated/blame) |
| 09:39.23 | JdGordon | deadcat: ok, i followed the thing... and i tinhk it worked... so how do i get it going? |
| 09:39.40 | deadcat | prism2-wifi any |
| 09:39.58 | liable | give away? |
| 09:40.14 | *** join/#debian Sh4d (n=yohann@163-144.us.ool.fr) |
| 09:40.35 | JdGordon | deadcat: onyl proggy i got is prism2dl ? |
| 09:40.37 | deadcat | JdGordon: if you use key, then prism2-wifi essid 11:22:22:22 <-- key |
| 09:40.50 | streuner | SlayerXP: it seems that changing /etc/hosts isn't enough too, i.e. (/etc/postfix/main.cf)... |
| 09:40.52 | deadcat | JdGordon: no. my script. |
| 09:41.04 | teror | I've edited /etc/network/interfaces and added an eth1:1 than restarted the networking daemon. still the eth1:1 doesn't appears at ifconfig |
| 09:41.06 | SlayerXP | streuner: i use exim, but already spotted that, yes. |
| 09:41.25 | JdGordon | ok, ill try |
| 09:43.05 | *** join/#debian Sonny (n=gonzalo@201.230.236.123) |
| 09:43.17 | *** join/#debian idealm (n=ideal@222.67.233.143) |
| 09:43.21 | Sonny | does somebody switch from gnome to kde? how was it? |
| 09:43.42 | deadcat | no |
| 09:43.46 | *** join/#debian Dewi (n=dewi@203-206-36-144.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 09:44.03 | kevix | Sonny: you can have any many WM or DE as you want. |
| 09:44.11 | *** join/#debian iciclebox (n=iciclebo@cm71.omega74.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 09:44.11 | liable | Sonny: kde has lots of tools for doing shit. pretty easy desktop environment. |
| 09:44.40 | liable | Sonny: just try it i guess. you are the only one who will know if its good for you.. |
| 09:44.42 | Sonny | liable: do you mean that gnome is harder than kde? |
| 09:45.02 | *** join/#debian koreci (i=hja123@bb219-74-20-18.singnet.com.sg) |
| 09:45.10 | kevix | Sonny: every thing has a learning curve. even the console! |
| 09:45.14 | *** join/#debian da5id_ (n=da5id___@dslb-084-061-036-038.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:45.15 | Sonny | liable: I mean if the change feel good or not... I'm just curious before doing that |
| 09:45.16 | koreci | which is the latest version of Apache for debian? |
| 09:45.24 | *** join/#debian fishdish (n=fishdish@hoas-fe1add00-98.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 09:45.33 | kevix | !info apache |
| 09:45.35 | dpkg | apache: (versatile, high-performance HTTP server), section web, is optional. Version: 1.3.34-2 (sid), Packaged size: 382 kB, Installed size: 816 kB |
| 09:45.36 | streuner | koreci: pdo.debian.net |
| 09:45.57 | kevix | koreci: apache or apache2 |
| 09:46.00 | *** join/#debian elfolnx (n=elfo@31.170.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 09:46.01 | elfolnx | hello |
| 09:46.02 | Sonny | apache2 |
| 09:46.06 | liable | Sonny: i havent used gnome for a long time, kde i dont use atm, but i kinda liked it, although i only ever installed the base packages. |
| 09:46.13 | Sonny | I'm using apache2 |
| 09:46.25 | koreci | kevix, i thought Apache2 is a later version of Apache? |
| 09:46.40 | weasel00 | apache is 2,0,55 |
| 09:46.42 | Sonny | liable, so what do u use now? |
| 09:46.45 | kevix | koreci: both are developed afaict |
| 09:46.47 | *** join/#debian yure (n=yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si) |
| 09:47.01 | *** join/#debian toth (i=Toth@adsl-ull-240-61.44-151.net24.it) |
| 09:47.10 | elfolnx | i'm in a little apt-get deadlock..... i just did an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade and now my apt is broken.... it wants to install udev but udev wants a newer kernel, and newer (2.6.15) kernel wants newer udev.... |
| 09:47.19 | elfolnx | (on a testing) |
| 09:47.23 | liable | Sonny: on my laptop, xfce4. I am not a minimal freak, so xfce4 is kinda middle ground. |
| 09:47.33 | weasel00 | koreci : latest build for deb is 2.0.55 |
| 09:47.37 | koreci | weasel00, thks. |
| 09:47.53 | *** join/#debian hueh (n=hueh@cpc1-cmbg5-6-0-cust51.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
| 09:47.56 | kevix | liable: yea. xfce reminds me of sun |
| 09:48.01 | elfolnx | how can i do? |
| 09:48.05 | *** join/#debian oauto (n=nevyn@c210-49-218-138.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 09:48.17 | *** join/#debian iridium (n=user@client80-83-40-199.abo.net2000.ch) |
| 09:48.43 | Acid`X | deadcat, ding, just installed xorg and alsa isnt working again |
| 09:48.47 | Sonny | liable. how come did you decide to use xfce? |
| 09:49.10 | liable | Sonny: although i still have kde's konsole installed, cause i like it as an xterm (tbs being the main reason) |
| 09:49.10 | kevix | Sonny: its not as heavy on cpu as gnome or kde |
| 09:49.20 | liable | tabs.. |
| 09:49.27 | deadcat | Acid`X: must be 2.6.15? |
| 09:49.28 | elfolnx | it's a shit.... |
| 09:49.45 | koreci | weasel00, wow, apache2 is a "total rewrite" with a lot of new features. how long has it been around? is it buggy? |
| 09:49.45 | Acid`X | deadcat, it's 2.6.15 atm |
| 09:49.55 | kevix | !udev upgrade |
| 09:49.56 | elfolnx | linux-image => initramfs-tools => udev => kernel-image greater than 2.6.12 |
| 09:50.30 | *** join/#debian chuckyp (n=chuckyp@adsl-68-73-162-221.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net) |
| 09:50.31 | *** join/#debian edt (n=knoppix@dsl-147-10.aei.ca) |
| 09:50.34 | *** join/#debian e-type (n=pieter@sourcemage/guru/e-type) |
| 09:50.35 | elfolnx | => means "depends" |
| 09:50.35 | liable | elfolnx: check the bts for udev. theres lots of bugs about it. |
| 09:50.38 | e-type | re |
| 09:50.50 | kevix | elfolnx: there should be info on the debian-user list. google on lists.debian.org |
| 09:50.55 | opqdonut | elfolnx: try installing with -f |
| 09:50.56 | elfolnx | liable: very cool, thanks... what's a "bts" ? |
| 09:50.59 | elfolnx | opqdonut: grrrr |
| 09:51.07 | opqdonut | bug tracking system |
| 09:51.17 | kevix | elfolnx: http://bugs.debian.org/udev |
| 09:51.19 | elfolnx | opqdonut: it's half an hour i'm trying this !(@#)!@()#( -f |
| 09:51.20 | opqdonut | elfolnx: hmm? |
| 09:51.20 | streuner | !bts |
| 09:51.20 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 09:51.21 | *** join/#debian BearDK (i=Bear_DK@x1-6-00-14-bf-67-5c-09.k305.webspeed.dk) |
| 09:51.22 | elfolnx | thanks |
| 09:51.25 | Sonny | Well since I used linux I just tried gnome... but in the road I realized that I'm using many apps of kde in gnome.... so maybe I have to switch to kde |
| 09:51.48 | liable | !udev 2.6.12 |
| 09:51.48 | Sonny | I'm confused |
| 09:51.48 | dpkg | if you tried to upgrade udev and now get the message "udev requires a kernel >= 2.6.12, upgrade aborted.", you must install a 2.6.12 kernel before proceding. The recommended way to do this is to download a linux-image-2.6.12-1 .deb for your arch from ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/ and installing it with dpkg -i |
| 09:51.49 | kevix | Sonny: you can have all of them installed. |
| 09:51.52 | weasel00 | koreci : i havent noticed any issues with it that i havent created myself... i find that the deb and fc differ greatly in how they are packaged/installed though |
| 09:51.53 | BearDK | how do I know which /etc/rcX.d is run on startup? |
| 09:52.00 | liable | elfolnx: ^^ see what dpkg just said |
| 09:52.16 | elfolnx | liable: i only have linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 09:52.21 | streuner | BearDK: in debian 2 is default |
| 09:52.28 | liable | elfolnx: so use dpkg to install that |
| 09:52.28 | elfolnx | and it wants initramfs-tools that wants a newer udev |
| 09:52.29 | Sonny | kevix, yep but not using all of them together... I think its good to chose one, and get used to that |
| 09:52.30 | BearDK | streuner: ok, thanks |
| 09:52.31 | kevix | BearDK: scripts with 'S' |
| 09:52.38 | elfolnx | liable: ah ok :) by hand |
| 09:52.57 | kevix | Sonny: with linux you can do what YOU want. |
| 09:53.07 | Sonny | yep :p |
| 09:53.08 | elfolnx | just reading bts |
| 09:53.27 | koreci | weasel00, do u install the source fr apache site and compile or u use deb? |
| 09:53.32 | Sonny | just do it... like nike |
| 09:53.34 | kevix | Sonny: you dont pay more for installing them x-) |
| 09:53.45 | Sonny | kevix, I know |
| 09:53.51 | roxy_ | Is it stupid to sudo apt-* ? |
| 09:53.53 | Sonny | kevix, you just waste time |
| 09:54.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 386] by debhelper |
| 09:54.04 | opqdonut | roxy_: no |
| 09:54.07 | liable | Sonny: no, you learn.. :) |
| 09:54.19 | kevix | Sonny: I started with knoppix which has kde, then I used XFCE, then windowmaker and now I use gnome... |
| 09:54.34 | weasel00 | koreci : i used deb this time... i'm trying to learn the installer =) |
| 09:55.10 | Sonny | kevix, Ok .... you had tried many flavors... which one did you like more? |
| 09:55.13 | kevix | Sonny: if live, you have 2 kinds of learning. learning what you like and what you dont like. |
| 09:55.27 | weasel00 | koreci : but i was using fedora pkg and source when the box was fedora with no complaints |
| 09:56.03 | koreci | weasel00, so far so good? no major problem? |
| 09:56.22 | weasel00 | koreci : on deb.. nope.. |
| 09:56.23 | kevix | Sonny: well, I seem to be using gnome, now. but I just installed twin and am trying it. |
| 09:56.26 | *** join/#debian Azoff (i=[P2YWRI8@host106-7.junet.se) |
| 09:56.27 | Azoff | hello |
| 09:56.55 | *** join/#debian Lorvija (n=lorvija@dsl-lprgw5-fec0f900-43.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 09:57.32 | koreci | weasel00, what is the minimum version of kernel it requires? will 2.6.8 be OK? |
| 09:57.43 | kevix | Sonny: there is a great cd burning app: k3b and it requies many kde libraries. I'd install it if I was using gnome or what ever. |
| 09:58.22 | weasel00 | koreci : honestly i didnt pay attention... im running a fresh system install w/updates |
| 09:58.23 | Azoff | I am trying something like this on Sarge http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Booting-once_002donly.html#Booting-once_002donly |
| 09:58.46 | Azoff | bug I can't get it running. Does the deb package miss some functionality for this? |
| 09:58.50 | koreci | weasel00, what does cat /proc/version say? |
| 09:59.18 | weasel00 | koreci : Linux version 2.4.27-2-686 |
| 09:59.38 | kevix | koreci: why not use 'uname -a' |
| 09:59.51 | koreci | weasel00, in that case 2.6.8 should be fine. thks. |
| 10:00.32 | elfolnx | i tried using dpkg -i to install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686.... but it still as for initramfs-tools (that asks for udev that asks for a newer kernel) |
| 10:00.43 | elfolnx | is there some supplementary dpkg --switches i forgot? |
| 10:01.15 | elfolnx | s/still as/still ask/ |
| 10:01.17 | liable | Azoff: it just doesnt work or fails in some way or what? did you follow all the steps? |
| 10:01.37 | Azoff | liable: it just boots the same kernel all the time |
| 10:01.41 | Azoff | ie. the "old" one |
| 10:01.52 | Azoff | yes, I did follow it |
| 10:01.52 | koreci | hey, the last couple of characters in the chat is not displayed, eventhought it is not near the end-of-line. ny reason why? i am using xchat. |
| 10:01.54 | liable | Azoff: and you ran the set-default command? |
| 10:02.05 | *** join/#debian Pluk (n=Pluk@d54C2304C.access.telenet.be) |
| 10:02.27 | Azoff | liable: yes, but the script were taken from my gentoo box (grub in sarge hasn't got it included and there's a bug on it) |
| 10:02.49 | *** join/#debian hoerup (n=hoerup@62.61.134.88.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 10:03.03 | liable | Azoff: oh, sarge doesnt have it? |
| 10:03.05 | Azoff | # head -n 1 /boot/grub/default |
| 10:03.05 | Azoff | 1 |
| 10:03.07 | *** join/#debian waddletron2k (n=kbd@82-38-68-217.cable.ubr06.brad.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 10:03.16 | teror | ok, folks, problem. I've added an eth1:1 in /etc/network/interfaces . eth1 is the nic's name. now, if I wanna ping the eth1:1 ip, doesn't works. from the server if I ping the 1:1 class works, if I ping the eth0 class works but if I ping the server from outside, doesn't |
| 10:03.25 | teror | do I need to do some routing or....? |
| 10:03.54 | waddletron2k | my kernel, for reasons I'll explain later, can only be started with nousb, is there a way I can start usb now? |
| 10:03.56 | *** join/#debian ruri (n=IndCend0@203.130.207.179) |
| 10:03.56 | teror | and the funny part is that if I ping from inside the 1:1 ip, it replies from outside |
| 10:03.59 | Azoff | liable: but it looks like grub doesn't care about it |
| 10:04.04 | *** join/#debian meff (n=meff@ppp-69-148-16-71.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 10:04.12 | teror | if I ping from outside eth0, the outside replies |
| 10:04.26 | teror | so it's like the interface I use replies, the other doesn't... |
| 10:04.46 | JdGordon | deadcat: your script works, thanx.. but how do i connect to my router if it has security? |
| 10:05.16 | *** join/#debian raz0 (n=morten@0x503ea70c.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 10:05.22 | deadcat | JdGordon: prism2-wifi start essid 11:22:33:44:... |
| 10:05.34 | JdGordon | cheers |
| 10:05.52 | kevix | elfolnx: man dpkg will show 'force' options |
| 10:05.55 | Azoff | liable: any ideas? |
| 10:06.07 | liable | Azoff: i dont have access to a sarge box atm. i havent actually tried this yet myself either (although i have read that doc) so i am probably of limited use anyway. |
| 10:06.48 | Azoff | liable: I could give you access to mine... hold on a sec |
| 10:07.03 | liable | elfolnx: try --force-depends, then apt-get -f install |
| 10:07.06 | teror | come on folks...I really need to do this crap... |
| 10:07.10 | liable | Azoff: no, dont do that :) |
| 10:07.11 | *** join/#debian seemawn (n=seemawn@p54A9B16B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:07.12 | elfolnx | liable: thank you |
| 10:07.43 | liable | Azoff: dont give people on irc access to your box.. i could be a terrorist for all you know :) |
| 10:08.19 | *** join/#debian Greatred (n=greatred@alxpc1jsb8.alx.aber.ac.uk) |
| 10:08.23 | Azoff | liable: don't care.. it's only a virtual box so |
| 10:09.02 | elfolnx | uffff |
| 10:09.10 | *** join/#debian vyrus001 (n=vyrus001@adsl-69-231-36-207.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 10:09.13 | elfolnx | i cannot leave this system broken |
| 10:09.22 | elfolnx | i _do_ need to complete this upgrade |
| 10:09.37 | kevix | elfolnx: did the force option not work? |
| 10:09.47 | Azoff | cloning... |
| 10:09.50 | *** join/#debian derril_ (i=derril@S010600e02995d83c.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 10:10.03 | *** join/#debian atrus (i=atrus@S01060000b48e3b44.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 10:10.04 | elfolnx | kevix: i did dpkg --force-depends --install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 10:10.09 | elfolnx | apt-get -f install |
| 10:10.13 | liable | Azoff: /msg me when you are ready |
| 10:10.15 | elfolnx | doesn't work |
| 10:10.27 | kevix | elfolnx: any messages? |
| 10:10.31 | elfolnx | always because udev wants a newer kernel |
| 10:10.44 | elfolnx | it's udev's fault |
| 10:10.50 | liable | did the kernel install? |
| 10:10.52 | kevix | try --force-all |
| 10:10.54 | elfolnx | ok |
| 10:11.03 | *** join/#debian rE`` (n=re@p549B451C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:11.08 | elfolnx | but i need to remove all the crap before? |
| 10:11.24 | kevix | elfolnx: what crap? |
| 10:11.57 | waddletron2k | How do I unload a kernel module? |
| 10:12.06 | *** join/#debian mijndert (n=mijndert@i172108.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 10:12.09 | kevix | waddletron2k: rmmod ? |
| 10:12.15 | waddletron2k | ty, making sure |
| 10:12.23 | elfolnx | kevix: initramfs-tools, linux-image-2.6 linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 _half_ installed |
| 10:12.46 | kevix | elfolnx: so do: apt-get -f install |
| 10:13.05 | elfolnx | kevix: it wants to install udev if i do that |
| 10:13.13 | elfolnx | kevix: and udev won't install |
| 10:13.20 | kevix | elfolnx: do: dpkg --configure -a |
| 10:13.23 | *** join/#debian fly-away (n=flie@80.92.248.145) |
| 10:13.24 | elfolnx | ok |
| 10:13.37 | *** part/#debian fly-away (n=flie@80.92.248.145) |
| 10:13.44 | elfolnx | (dpkg --force-all --install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 failed) |
| 10:14.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 393] by debhelper |
| 10:14.04 | Sonny | do you know how can I know what chip does my web cam use? |
| 10:14.06 | liable | with what error? |
| 10:14.09 | *** join/#debian HazyNRG (n=HazyNRG@lns-bzn-36-82-251-1-18.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 10:14.11 | *** join/#debian dingz (n=oehm@c202135.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 10:14.39 | elfolnx | liable: it says that linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 needs initramfs-tools |
| 10:14.40 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (n=sphenxes@u-127-236.adsl.univie.ac.at) |
| 10:14.49 | elfolnx | and initramfs-tools is not being installed |
| 10:15.12 | elfolnx | (as initramfs-tools depends on udev, that is not being installed and needs the newer kernel) |
| 10:15.24 | elfolnx | why are there these buggy loops in apt? |
| 10:16.28 | elfolnx | kevix: did the dpkg --configure -a |
| 10:16.53 | elfolnx | (just after i removed linux-image-2.6.15-1-686) |
| 10:16.54 | waddletron2k | When I try lsusb -t -v I get cannot open /proc/bus/usb/devices, No such file or directory (2). :/ |
| 10:17.49 | elfolnx | argh |
| 10:18.21 | *** join/#debian HazyNRG (n=HazyNRG@lns-bzn-36-82-251-1-18.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 10:19.09 | elfolnx | i really need some help... |
| 10:19.34 | *** join/#debian egoX (n=egoX@p549A92B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:19.40 | kevix | waddletron2k: is there support in /etc/fstab ? |
| 10:19.45 | elfolnx | udev package checks with `uname` that is running a >= 2.6.12 kernel? |
| 10:19.49 | *** join/#debian oskie (i=usel@h188n4-m-fb-gr100.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 10:19.54 | elfolnx | if so i fucking install the kernel by hand |
| 10:20.22 | waddletron2k | kevix I see none, I'll try to google but I don't know what I'm looking for exactly |
| 10:20.23 | *** join/#debian knj (n=kaspernj@D40A3ED4.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 10:20.27 | elfolnx | apt is driving me crazy |
| 10:20.47 | *** join/#debian Shachar (n=sun@line105-82.adsl.actcom.co.il) |
| 10:21.03 | *** join/#debian ciaron (n=soth@cpc2-broo4-4-0-cust124.renf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 10:21.58 | kevix | waddletron2k: this should be in /etc/fstab: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults 0 0 |
| 10:22.01 | kevix | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
| 10:22.39 | waddletron2k | Will I have to reboot for it to take effect? |
| 10:22.44 | kevix | elfolnx: I can try to help in #flood |
| 10:23.36 | elfolnx | ok |
| 10:23.50 | karsten | waddletron2k: /etc/fstab changes don't require reboot. |
| 10:25.11 | waddletron2k | Excellent, otherwise I'd be confetti. I'm using the Elive CD which is built on Debian and the safemode is the only one that doesn't hang trying to load some stupid module, ofcourse safemode has nousb :P |
| 10:25.24 | *** join/#debian fausto (n=user@host253-135.pool8251.interbusiness.it) |
| 10:26.15 | *** join/#debian lonewolff (i=lonewolf@adleman.lonewolff.info) |
| 10:26.20 | *** join/#debian derril (i=derril@S010600e02995d83c.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 10:28.02 | *** join/#debian poncha|laptop (n=poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 10:28.13 | *** part/#debian lgn21st (n=root@220.114.115.21) |
| 10:28.14 | *** part/#debian JdGordon (n=JdGordon@c211-28-227-249.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 10:28.23 | *** join/#debian m00s3s (n=m00s3s@cs181196022.pp.htv.fi) |
| 10:29.57 | *** join/#debian trosben (i=rioa@adsl-71-135-41-131.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 10:33.12 | *** join/#debian bananafly (n=username@h18n1fls306o1101.telia.com) |
| 10:33.53 | bananafly | why do i get loads of error messages about hotplugd not being able to start when i boot? |
| 10:33.57 | *** join/#debian comsa (n=eddy_ami@katax1-204.dialup.optusnet.com.au) |
| 10:34.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 399] by debhelper |
| 10:34.25 | Sonny | hi, I have gnome but I just installed kde, now how do I tell my system that I want to use kde? |
| 10:34.47 | karsten | Sonny: You're given that option when configuring KDE. |
| 10:34.48 | waddletron2k | Sonny, look at the file .xinitrc |
| 10:35.02 | *** join/#debian JamesB (n=none@adsl-ull-160-132.41-151.net24.it) |
| 10:35.09 | waddletron2k | its in your ~/ |
| 10:35.11 | karsten | Sonny: dpkg-reconfigure kdm IIRC. |
| 10:35.27 | karsten | waddletron2k: That's a way but not bog standard to Debian FYI. |
| 10:35.27 | bananafly | it's really irritating, my network card has to be started by hotplugd but hotplugd can't start :( |
| 10:35.38 | waddletron2k | karsten: ah |
| 10:35.41 | *** join/#debian SaLoMoN (n=SaLoMoN@p54A8995C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:36.06 | waddletron2k | karsten: I'm usually a Gentoo user but I'm using this livecd while I await delivery of a harddrive |
| 10:36.51 | karsten | waddletron2k: Yeah. KDE/GNOME are a tad complex, but configuring one of the associated packages sets up the default WM. Also handled IIRC through /etc/alternatives/ |
| 10:37.06 | karsten | waddletron2k: ... though I'd have to revisit the X config scripts to be sure of what/how. |
| 10:37.17 | karsten | waddletron2k: ... I just run wmaker. Much saner ;-) |
| 10:37.19 | Sonny | karsten: I didnt worked... I dont have IIRC installed |
| 10:37.26 | waddletron2k | hehe |
| 10:37.27 | *** join/#debian easytiger (n=gerry@cpc2-blfs5-0-0-cust693.belf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 10:37.51 | karsten | !tell Sonny about iirc |
| 10:38.13 | *** join/#debian cheal (n=chealer@pdpc/supporter/student/chealer) |
| 10:38.37 | *** join/#debian OmWezAddams (n=nickhors@64.131.32.74) |
| 10:38.46 | Sonny | karsten: doing that ... you just configure to use kdm instead of gdm.... but I want to configure kde instead of gnome |
| 10:38.59 | *** join/#debian jenda (n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda) |
| 10:38.59 | waddletron2k | I have taken to FVWM very much, myself. I'm about to try making a theme that uses a running clisp to do crazy things to the root menu and other style madness. |
| 10:39.06 | elfolnx | Sonny: when in gdm or kdm, choose kde instead of gnome |
| 10:39.20 | karsten | Sonny: You should get a selector dialog in the login window. |
| 10:39.52 | *** join/#debian FallenHitokiri (n=blitz@p54ACDE7D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:39.56 | Sonny | karsten: nop... I just see the kdm window.... and spaces to enter my user and pass |
| 10:40.05 | *** join/#debian loca|host (n=loca|fre@196.203.32.233) |
| 10:40.23 | *** join/#debian gears (n=richard@pool-68-161-9-194.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 10:40.34 | Sonny | which pkgs are necessary to install kde? |
| 10:40.40 | *** join/#debian datr1x (n=datr1x@cpc1-bolt6-4-0-cust178.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 10:40.51 | *** join/#debian prp (i=the_g0d@82.76.130.85) |
| 10:40.59 | *** join/#debian kanotiwicz (n=rapha@linux-tage.tu-chemnitz.de) |
| 10:41.02 | waddletron2k | karsten I still get "cannot open /proc/bus/usb/devices, No such file or directory (2)" |
| 10:41.14 | waddletron2k | and I reloaded all USB modules |
| 10:41.17 | karsten | waddletron2k: No USB support then, I think. What kernel. |
| 10:41.25 | waddletron2k | 2.6.11 |
| 10:41.43 | gears | sonny, apt-get -s install kde |
| 10:41.44 | jenda | Hello there. Ops (ElectricElf, mentor): sopirlaa (n=alex@82.79.207.25) would like to join this channel, but is banned with this hostmask: *!*@82.79.* - which is very general. Can you please remove that from the banlist? |
| 10:42.11 | karsten | waddletron2k: Not sure. |
| 10:42.35 | jenda | He is asking us for help in #help, but we can't help him ourselves, we would normally send him here. |
| 10:43.12 | karsten | waddletron2k: 'lsmod' and post to the paster channel. |
| 10:43.15 | karsten | !tell waddletron2k about paster |
| 10:43.28 | jenda | !ops |
| 10:43.28 | dpkg | Please invoke '!ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 10:43.38 | karsten | jenda: FYI, rdsnet.ro is a pit of abuse and is fully RFC-Ignorant. |
| 10:43.56 | *** join/#debian enigma (n=enigma@aok122.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 10:44.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 408] by debhelper |
| 10:44.06 | karsten | jenda: Romania Data Systems, S.A. One of my bigger and growing spam sources. |
| 10:44.34 | *** join/#debian edt (n=knoppix@dsl-147-10.aei.ca) |
| 10:44.42 | jenda | OK, but now you're blocking an innocent person. How'bout a +e? |
| 10:44.42 | *** join/#debian egoX (n=egoX@p549A92B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:44.57 | *** join/#debian zinosat (n=Davide@adsl-ull-183-133.44-151.net24.it) |
| 10:45.30 | karsten | jenda: I'm not an op. I just track spam and abuse. Have sopirlaa send a ping to his/her ISP. They're a real problem. Ops will make their own decision. |
| 10:46.04 | jenda | Ok then, I will have to ask them personally |
| 10:46.11 | kanotiwicz | Chemnitzer Linux-Tage 2006 part 2 ;-)! |
| 10:46.19 | *** part/#debian JamesB (n=none@adsl-ull-160-132.41-151.net24.it) |
| 10:46.45 | jenda | !ops Please set an exempt on n=alex@82.79.207.25, his ISP is banned in #debian and he needs the channel's help. |
| 10:46.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Please set an exempt on n=alex@82.79.207.25, his ISP is banned in #debian and he needs the channel's help. |
| 10:47.21 | *** join/#debian elfolnx (n=elfo@31.170.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 10:47.24 | *** join/#debian knoppers (i=win2000@unaffiliated/knoppers) |
| 10:47.30 | elfolnx | re |
| 10:47.47 | *** join/#debian jeanbaptiste (n=jeanbapt@lns-bzn-40-82-251-162-247.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 10:48.18 | *** join/#debian gusto (n=Timea@p508CBEF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:48.21 | kevix | elfolnx: did anything happen? |
| 10:48.32 | *** join/#debian JohnDoh (n=jeff@unaffiliated/JohnDoh) |
| 10:48.32 | elfolnx | no |
| 10:48.48 | elfolnx | just busybox when i tried to boot the 2.6.15 kernel |
| 10:49.12 | kevix | elfolnx: that means you have 2.6.15 and have to fix the 2.6.15 problem. |
| 10:49.16 | elfolnx | why is it always so hard to keep a debian up-to-date? |
| 10:49.32 | elfolnx | kevix: yeah... i'm trying to fix the problem... |
| 10:49.37 | *** join/#debian enigma (n=enigma@aok122.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 10:49.47 | kevix | elfolnx: you had a problem that ususally never happens. you got real luck x-) |
| 10:49.49 | enigma | hi, i have some problem |
| 10:50.05 | elfolnx | kevix: i love my luck.... |
| 10:50.06 | karsten | enigma: Ask away. |
| 10:50.13 | enigma | how can i get acces to windows partition |
| 10:50.30 | karsten | enigma: What filesystem are you using? What version of Windows? |
| 10:50.30 | blondie | enigma: what FS are they? |
| 10:50.32 | enigma | i have mount partition |
| 10:50.39 | elfolnx | kevix: but it will happen to everyone, i mean, if you upgrade your debian testing and you have a 2.6.8 kernel you're in the death loop too |
| 10:50.44 | karsten | enigma: NTFS has read-only support. FAT32 is read/write. |
| 10:50.54 | enigma | sorry for my english, i'm from poland |
| 10:50.55 | enigma | ok |
| 10:51.01 | *** join/#debian coolsail (n=sail@61.183.218.234) |
| 10:51.06 | karsten | enigma: There's IIRC a howto at TLDP |
| 10:51.10 | karsten | !tell enigma about tldp |
| 10:51.12 | easytiger | how do i disable rivafb? |
| 10:51.21 | enigma | i have mounted three partition of windows (ntfs) |
| 10:51.23 | coolsail | how to update firefox ? |
| 10:51.40 | enigma | bau when ia would to open it |
| 10:51.41 | karsten | coolsail: man apt-get |
| 10:51.47 | karsten | coolsail: ... or aptitude |
| 10:51.51 | bananafly | why do i get errors about hotplugd on boot? |
| 10:51.54 | enigma | when i would to poen it |
| 10:52.25 | coolsail | i know ,i mean i can't update by apt |
| 10:52.34 | enigma | i have window where writing "can't show this folder" |
| 10:52.37 | elfolnx | i cannot resolve the problem |
| 10:52.42 | karsten | enigma: To access a filesystem you mount it. FAT32 doesn't have user/group symantics, so you have to mount it with a specified user/group specification and/or permissions. |
| 10:52.50 | elfolnx | i need a newer kernel to install things needed to install the newer kernel |
| 10:53.06 | enigma | karsten: bu i have ntfs |
| 10:53.08 | elfolnx | who is the logic genius who came up with this? |
| 10:53.10 | coolsail | i would like to download the newest firefox and could you tell me where to download? |
| 10:53.13 | karsten | enigma: SOL. |
| 10:53.17 | karsten | !tell enigma about sol |
| 10:53.23 | waddletron2k | elfolnx: sounds like a circle jerk :/ |
| 10:53.33 | elfolnx | waddletron2k: it _IS_ a circle jerk |
| 10:53.35 | enigma | what is sol |
| 10:53.38 | karsten | enigma: That's a proprietary filesystem. There's experimental support for it, but it's iffy. |
| 10:53.39 | *** join/#debian SaneEnglishMonk (n=michael@c88.worc.ox.ac.uk) |
| 10:53.48 | karsten | enigma: Read what dpkg told you. dpkg == channel bot. |
| 10:53.53 | elfolnx | the question #1 is "Why always to me?", the #2 is "How to solve that?" |
| 10:53.54 | kevix | !initramfs |
| 10:54.01 | bananafly | coolsail: getfirefox.com :D |
| 10:54.04 | karsten | kevix: /msg the bots. |
| 10:54.12 | *** join/#debian syst3m_err0r (n=phantom@61.39.46.120) |
| 10:54.29 | karsten | enigma: Best general solution is to have a mutually accessible FAT32 partition or use a USB stick or similar. |
| 10:54.32 | enigma | Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*]; |
| 10:54.33 | elfolnx | !initramfs |
| 10:54.33 | enigma | Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management; |
| 10:54.33 | enigma | Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values; |
| 10:54.34 | enigma | Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options; |
| 10:54.34 | enigma | Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files; |
| 10:54.34 | enigma | Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*]. |
| 10:54.34 | *** part/#debian enigma (n=enigma@aok122.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 10:55.13 | elfolnx | arrrrrh |
| 10:55.22 | *** part/#debian jenda (n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda) |
| 10:55.29 | bananafly | why ain't my hotplugd working?? |
| 10:55.34 | elfolnx | kdm doesn't work anymore, either |
| 10:55.40 | karsten | !tell bananafly about smart questions |
| 10:56.26 | syst3m_err0r | good evening |
| 10:56.29 | *** join/#debian lightangel (n=LightAng@unaffiliated/lightangel) |
| 10:56.29 | *** join/#debian grimse (n=grimse@p5481E81F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:56.34 | karsten | elfolnx: Post output of your apt-get or aptitude update to paster |
| 10:56.34 | comsa | wonder where he got the nick from |
| 10:56.38 | elfolnx | ok.. just the pointer not being accessed because of udev.... |
| 10:56.38 | karsten | !tell elfolnx about paster |
| 10:56.50 | *** join/#debian enigma (n=enigma@aok122.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 10:56.57 | elfolnx | ok |
| 10:57.01 | lightangel | folks, I've done EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS on http://www.aboutdebian.com/network.htm still it DOESN'T WORKS nor for me and for other two persons.. |
| 10:57.10 | syst3m_err0r | comsa, was that directed at m3? |
| 10:57.20 | lightangel | is so complicated to add a darn eth0:1 with another IP under debian?! |
| 10:57.28 | karsten | !tell lightangel about smart questions |
| 10:57.40 | elfolnx | karsten: there is no channel "#debian" to choose |
| 10:57.40 | comsa | no |
| 10:57.44 | enigma | i tried to use this --> sudo /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs ro,auto,user,nls=utf8,uid=enigma,umask=077 0 0 |
| 10:57.48 | syst3m_err0r | oh, ok then =-) |
| 10:58.00 | enigma | but it don't help |
| 10:58.11 | karsten | elfolnx: Ignore that. Just paste, then paste the url here. |
| 10:58.21 | *** join/#debian Peci (n=Peci@84.22.5.134) |
| 10:58.28 | lightangel | karsten well excuse me but I'm trying to set the darn network for 3 hours... |
| 10:58.40 | enigma | i can't see this partition |
| 10:58.43 | lightangel | so where should I add what? i've set /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:58.50 | lightangel | i've set resolve.conf |
| 10:58.52 | enigma | how i can get acces to this partiton |
| 10:58.53 | karsten | lightangel: I understand. |
| 10:59.05 | karsten | lightangel: I'm also most of the clue that's made it to the channel tonight. Slow down. |
| 10:59.17 | enigma | ialso i tried to use chown and chmod |
| 10:59.17 | easytiger | i got the nvidia drivers installed: how do i get x running ? |
| 10:59.18 | lightangel | ok, excuse me |
| 10:59.27 | fishdish | haveu guys ever programmed while being drunk? |
| 10:59.31 | fishdish | i have |
| 10:59.34 | *** join/#debian Holborn (n=holborn@237.Red-217-125-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:59.36 | fishdish | just at the momnet |
| 11:00.12 | lightangel | karsten ok, so the main ideea is this: I've set /etc/network/interfaces, added an eth0:1, etc etc. next, if I ping an IP from the eth0:1 class, the server replies from inside and outside |
| 11:00.29 | karsten | lightangel: I'll give you a working config. Please wait. |
| 11:00.45 | lightangel | if I ping an IP from the eth0 class, the server replies from inside and outside on that class but doesn't replies on the eth0:1 class. |
| 11:00.48 | lightangel | ok, thanks a lot! |
| 11:00.58 | comsa | dont u have add a dir to the win part then aim at that mount |
| 11:01.01 | kevix | karsten: I was trying to help elfolnx with a known problem that I could not find the info for. its with kernel upgrade and initramfs-utils in testing |
| 11:01.14 | comsa | dont u have add a dir to the win part then aim at that with mount |
| 11:01.38 | karsten | lightangel: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1988 |
| 11:01.52 | bananafly | When i boot i get a lot of errors about udevd and hotplugd not being able to start. Why? And i have searched the web. |
| 11:01.54 | *** join/#debian richard_ (n=richard@pool-68-161-9-194.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 11:02.13 | lightangel | karsten ok, http://pastebin.com/584809 <- that's the conf I made |
| 11:02.42 | lightangel | karsten our confs are the same.. |
| 11:03.13 | elfolnx | karsten: the paste is @ number 1989 |
| 11:03.25 | karsten | lightangel: Your 10.net won't route with an 86.105.84.1 gateway. |
| 11:03.29 | elfolnx | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1989 |
| 11:03.37 | karsten | elfolnx: ?? |
| 11:03.41 | karsten | elfolnx: NM |
| 11:03.52 | elfolnx | NM? |
| 11:03.58 | karsten | elfolnx: nevermind |
| 11:04.02 | elfolnx | ok :) |
| 11:04.16 | lightangel | karsten please check http://channels.debian.net/paste/1990 |
| 11:04.17 | *** join/#debian LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@68.93.136.141) |
| 11:04.20 | karsten | lightangel: A network needs a gateway on that network. |
| 11:04.23 | karsten | lightangel: Moment. |
| 11:04.30 | lightangel | ok, thanks a lot for your time! |
| 11:04.53 | bananafly | does debian have support for ISA cards? |
| 11:05.11 | *** join/#debian derril (i=derril@S010600e02995d83c.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 11:05.21 | lightangel | the main ideea is the 10.11.10.11 needs to have 255.0.0.0 mask and use the same dns, gate, etc as 86.105. |
| 11:05.21 | elfolnx | (my idea is still the same: install a kernel by hand, reboot, install udev and done) |
| 11:05.22 | karsten | elfolnx: /var/lib/dpkg/info/ contains the install / remove scripts for packages. Run for udev manually and figure out what's bombing. If nothing else, just exit with 'true'. |
| 11:05.25 | SlayerXP | bananafly: no, but the linux kernel does. |
| 11:05.28 | karsten | bananafly: Yes. |
| 11:05.30 | *** join/#debian beleys (n=beleys@62.94.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 11:05.37 | elfolnx | karsten: ok :) |
| 11:05.37 | florin-_- | can anyone help me with a acpi problem on shut down?my pc doesnt turn off when y call turn off computer.how can y disble that function? |
| 11:05.42 | karsten | lightangel: That config won't work. Period. |
| 11:05.44 | elfolnx | karsten: thanks |
| 11:05.53 | karsten | lightangel: You'll need a gateway on the 10 net itself. |
| 11:06.12 | lightangel | aha, so it can't use the same gate as 86? |
| 11:06.16 | karsten | lightangel: Correct. |
| 11:06.34 | karsten | lightangel: Read up on your TCP/IP networking. |
| 11:06.50 | lightangel | mmmm...ok. it's a LAN IP, does it needs a gateway? |
| 11:06.52 | bananafly | if you run lspci, does it show ISA cards too? if not, how can i see waht isa cards are plugged in? |
| 11:07.12 | karsten | lightangel: you only need a gateway if you want traffic to route to other networks. |
| 11:07.25 | karsten | lightangel: ... however if you want that, then you need a gateway that's visible locally. |
| 11:07.30 | easytiger | how do i fix a no screens found error? |
| 11:07.37 | kevix | elfolnx: have you tried to force udev 'dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archive/udev......' |
| 11:07.44 | lightangel | oooook, than I was thinking at the same thing. ok, so if it's just another LAN IP I need just the address and the mask correct? |
| 11:07.51 | *** join/#debian beleys_ (n=beleys@62.94.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 11:08.00 | karsten | lightangel: Yes. |
| 11:08.05 | elfolnx | kevix: of course, many times |
| 11:08.19 | karsten | lightangel: ... but it will *only* be reachable to other IPs within the same network. |
| 11:08.20 | *** join/#debian raz0 (n=morten@0x50a1608b.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 11:08.35 | karsten | !tell elfolnx about config x |
| 11:08.39 | lightangel | ok, now, to correctly reapply the network settings, I should use /etc/init.d/networking restart? I'm used with other distros that use other paths and scripts. |
| 11:08.47 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (n=robert@79-41.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 11:08.50 | karsten | !tell elfolnx about xcfg |
| 11:09.05 | karsten | lightangel: ifdown eth0:1; ifup eth0:1 |
| 11:09.07 | *** join/#debian beleys (n=beleys@62.94.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 11:09.09 | *** join/#debian Trigger13 (n=Trigger@p54A7AF8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:09.10 | comsa | enigma are you realiy from poleland |
| 11:09.22 | kevix | elfolnx: as karsten says, you can disable the script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/udev.* |
| 11:09.25 | karsten | bananafly: No. ISA != PCI. |
| 11:09.35 | *** join/#debian [SEAWOLF] (n=seawolf@host166-58.pool871.interbusiness.it) |
| 11:09.39 | karsten | bananafly: They may show up under dmidecode output though. |
| 11:09.39 | kevix | karsten: I think you have elfolnx confused with easytiger |
| 11:09.47 | karsten | kevix: Truth. |
| 11:09.51 | karsten | !tell easytiger about xcfg |
| 11:09.52 | lightangel | same thing... |
| 11:10.19 | syst3m_err0r | is there any simple way to get KDE to automount my USB drives/cdroms/anything else like Gnome does? |
| 11:10.23 | lightangel | the LAN IP doesn't replies, the net one does |
| 11:10.25 | karsten | kevix: My pref is to run the script, figure out what breaks (bash -x <script>), fix it, or exit w/ true. |
| 11:10.29 | karsten | syst3m_err0r: Yes. |
| 11:10.38 | elfolnx | let's try |
| 11:11.05 | kevix | syst3m_err0r: you install gnome-volume-manager,hal,... |
| 11:11.05 | karsten | OK, after fixing the 2006 key, why am I still seeing untrusted packages? |
| 11:11.06 | comsa | bet itys fkn cold there |
| 11:11.24 | kevix | karsten: you need to 'apt-get update' |
| 11:11.32 | karsten | kevix: OK. |
| 11:11.40 | lightangel | ooook, still, doesn't works... |
| 11:11.41 | *** join/#debian Zugschlus (n=mh@temptorres.zugschlus.de) |
| 11:12.11 | *** join/#debian ifmy (n=ifmy@62.235.224.223) |
| 11:12.15 | lightangel | any ideeas? |
| 11:12.20 | karsten | lightangel: What traffic are you trying to run? |
| 11:12.21 | lightangel | now even the net IP doesn't works.. |
| 11:12.31 | elfolnx | karsten: i changed -e to -x in the udev.postinst script... dpkg --configure -a worked and it seems to be ok |
| 11:12.39 | lightangel | karsten can you rephrase? traffic...? |
| 11:12.41 | elfolnx | but i didn't touch to other lines of the script.... |
| 11:12.41 | karsten | lightangel: 'ifconfig' and 'route -n' are your friends. |
| 11:12.44 | easytiger | is there an xconfiguration tool? |
| 11:12.52 | elfolnx | xcfg |
| 11:12.52 | lightangel | ah, ok, just a sec |
| 11:12.58 | karsten | lightangel: What IP points are you trying to get to contact each other? How are you testing this? Ping? |
| 11:13.02 | lightangel | ifconfig shows the IPs, they are OK |
| 11:13.17 | kevix | elfolnx: you should read this: http://bugs.debian.org/353073 |
| 11:13.19 | elfolnx | let's see if the 2.6.15 will boot or not |
| 11:13.28 | *** part/#debian coolsail (n=sail@61.183.218.234) |
| 11:13.33 | elfolnx | kevix: i did, but not really find solutions |
| 11:13.35 | karsten | elfolnx: That's probably a bug. 'test -e' is a bad bash test, it's from korn shell and IIRC almost never does what you think it should. |
| 11:13.45 | karsten | elfolnx: More context on that '-e' to '-x' ? |
| 11:13.58 | lightangel | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1991 <- the result of route |
| 11:14.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 417] by debhelper |
| 11:14.03 | elfolnx | karsten: no idea |
| 11:14.09 | *** join/#debian boogeyman (i=Condor@adsl-ull-126-31.49-151.net24.it) |
| 11:14.11 | karsten | lightangel: Post 'em both together. |
| 11:14.20 | karsten | elfolnx: That makes two of us. |
| 11:14.50 | *** join/#debian bobbens|sleep (n=bobbens@197.Red-83-50-180.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:15.00 | lightangel | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1992 <- done |
| 11:16.01 | *** part/#debian boogeyman (i=Condor@adsl-ull-126-31.49-151.net24.it) |
| 11:16.02 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nicolas@dslb-084-058-200-064.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:16.05 | elfolnx | uhm uhm |
| 11:16.10 | bananafly | is there a lspci-ish command for ISA? |
| 11:16.13 | syst3m_err0r | kevix, hal is the item i must install? and then KDE will work properly like it does in Mandriva? |
| 11:16.16 | elfolnx | so i need to update-initramfs -u -t |
| 11:16.21 | syst3m_err0r | thanks for the info. |
| 11:16.24 | elfolnx | and it says.... kernel too old |
| 11:16.42 | elfolnx | so i should update the initramfs _after_ having booted the new kernel |
| 11:16.58 | elfolnx | but the new kernel won't boot without a proper initramdisk |
| 11:17.10 | *** join/#debian bobbens (n=bobbens@197.Red-83-50-180.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:17.12 | *** join/#debian munzir (n=munzir@212.33.191.184) |
| 11:17.15 | elfolnx | very cool |
| 11:17.29 | munzir | hi, aptitude list the package preceded by a letter like (p, i, v, ...) what those p and v stands for? |
| 11:17.34 | *** join/#debian |BrAnD| (n=brand@host207-235.pool80104.interbusiness.it) |
| 11:17.38 | karsten | lightangel: That actually looks sane. |
| 11:17.39 | elfolnx | let's try.... |
| 11:17.45 | karsten | bananafly: dmidecode. I already told you. |
| 11:17.58 | kevix | munzir: purged |
| 11:18.02 | karsten | bananafly: otherwise, IIRC, just interrupts and IRQs. That's a long time ago. |
| 11:18.03 | lightangel | karsten if I ping google (from the box), 86 will reply (from inside). if I ping 10.11.x.x from the box, 10.11.10.11 will reply from outside |
| 11:18.05 | *** join/#debian Phlexonance (n=phlexona@85-124-22-198.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 11:18.14 | lightangel | karsten well that's why I'm here...it doesn't works... |
| 11:18.19 | bananafly | karsten: oh, must've missed that. thx |
| 11:18.24 | karsten | lightangel: Paste examples. I don't understand. |
| 11:18.35 | *** join/#debian grimse (n=grimse@p5481FA52.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:18.36 | karsten | munzir: man aptitude or '?' for help |
| 11:19.12 | *** join/#debian Malagmyr (n=ohmygoth@85.166.54.138) |
| 11:20.12 | *** join/#debian datn (n=datn@ppp4DF4.dsl.pacific.net.au) |
| 11:20.24 | lightangel | ok, again. the box uses 86.105.84.4 (net IP) and 10.11.10.11 (LAN) IP. now, if I ping an internet website (like google) from inside the server, 86.105.84.4 will reply from outside but 10.11.10.11 won't. if I ping a LAN IP (like 10.11.84.78) from inside the server, 10.11.10.11 will reply from outside but 86.105.84.4 won't. |
| 11:20.38 | oskie | i wonder if it's possible to have ssh-add run automaticly, reusing the login password or something... |
| 11:20.39 | karsten | lightangel: Right. |
| 11:20.40 | datn | hi guys, whats a good http fileserver with webdav support? |
| 11:20.47 | karsten | datn: apache. |
| 11:20.57 | lightangel | karsten well I need them both to run... |
| 11:21.07 | karsten | datn: you've misspelled 'webserver' BTW. |
| 11:21.09 | lightangel | karsten note that they "randomly" work sometimes... |
| 11:21.14 | karsten | lightangel: They are. |
| 11:21.15 | *** join/#debian coywolf (n=coywolf@60.21.5.11) |
| 11:21.25 | karsten | lightangel: Um. |
| 11:21.27 | *** join/#debian elfolnx (n=elfo@31.170.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 11:21.29 | coywolf | hi |
| 11:21.30 | lightangel | for example, now they both work.. |
| 11:21.31 | *** join/#debian wolffc (i=wolff@dslb-084-063-000-170.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:21.33 | elfolnx | no |
| 11:21.34 | Phlexonance | whats a good icq client for debian |
| 11:21.39 | munzir | kevix: but I haven't removed those package or purged them! For example I ddi aptitude search wdiff. I told me "p wdiff" purge what? |
| 11:21.41 | coywolf | quit |
| 11:21.46 | karsten | lightangel: ... define 'inside' and 'outside'. Paste output showing what you mean. Where you're running stuff from as well. |
| 11:21.47 | elfolnx | i cannot boot the 2.6.15 kernel |
| 11:21.52 | datn | oh okie, apache is it. |
| 11:21.52 | munzir | karsten: I didn't found it on the man page |
| 11:21.54 | lightangel | but let me ping 10.11.84.78 and the NET IP will stop working.. |
| 11:22.02 | karsten | munzir: 'aptitude' then '?' for help |
| 11:22.04 | *** join/#debian tziku458 (i=tziku@86.104.64.32) |
| 11:22.09 | *** join/#debian Nurbs (i=tom@p508978E1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:22.09 | munzir | karsten: I ddi aptitude search wdiff. I told me "p wdiff" |
| 11:22.14 | *** join/#debian okaratas (n=gnu@85.98.165.18) |
| 11:22.17 | karsten | munzir: That's nice. |
| 11:22.17 | okaratas | hello channel |
| 11:22.25 | lightangel | now none works, and I've didn't touched a thing.. |
| 11:22.35 | elfolnx | why do kernel requires an initrd ? |
| 11:22.38 | *** join/#debian Shadowcat (i=Ecto@c-145f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 11:22.44 | *** join/#debian Zeit|idle (n=wurscht@p54A78430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:22.51 | lightangel | yup, request timeout |
| 11:23.01 | lightangel | the network card is fully functional |
| 11:23.02 | *** join/#debian LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@68.93.136.141) |
| 11:23.02 | datn | karsten Its like I want people to able to copy files and download files using webdav protocol, so apache can do that? |
| 11:23.26 | *** join/#debian Kika (n=Kika@m220.net85-168-119.noos.fr) |
| 11:23.30 | bananafly | bah. linux won't find my ISA network card, and it won't find my PCI DWL-500 either, because hotplugd can't start |
| 11:23.32 | easytiger | X on debian is a nightmare |
| 11:23.44 | karsten | datn: Yes. |
| 11:24.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 427] by debhelper |
| 11:24.16 | lightangel | karsten now I've phisically tiped "ping google.com", replies. ping 10.11.84.78 gives me network unreachable.. |
| 11:24.28 | lightangel | *typed even... |
| 11:24.40 | karsten | lightangel: I don't have the bandwidth. Paste a complete report. |
| 11:24.48 | karsten | lightangel: ... I'm solving my own issues here as well. |
| 11:25.02 | datn | karsten how about upload, will apache be able to handle it aswell? |
| 11:25.13 | lightangel | karsten yes, i've noticed and I really apreciate your time! |
| 11:25.42 | nkuttler | lightangel: 10.x.x.x is for private networks... |
| 11:25.42 | Shadowcat | easytiger: X on debian is not a nightmare |
| 11:25.51 | lightangel | nkuttler yes, It's a LAN IP. |
| 11:25.59 | munzir | karsten: thanks a lot I got you now. |
| 11:26.03 | lightangel | nkuttler I have a net and a lan IP. they "randomly work"... |
| 11:26.11 | Shadowcat | 10.11.84.78 is an awfully strange gateway box |
| 11:26.25 | *** join/#debian elfolnx (n=elfo@31.170.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 11:26.26 | lightangel | Shadowcat it's a PC from the LAN |
| 11:26.27 | Shadowcat | lightangel: you need to take a look at your routes |
| 11:26.31 | elfolnx | re |
| 11:26.31 | karsten | dpkg: I'd really like to find a novel way to say "yes" but I'm tapped out. How about you read some docs? |
| 11:26.38 | Shadowcat | !bot |
| 11:26.38 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 11:26.42 | karsten | datn: I'd really like to find a novel way to say "yes" but I'm tapped out. How about you read some docs? |
| 11:26.48 | karsten | munzir: NP |
| 11:26.49 | *** join/#debian beleys_ (n=beleys@62.94.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 11:27.03 | elfolnx | how can i solve my problems? |
| 11:27.08 | lightangel | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1992 <- here's the |
| 11:27.13 | elfolnx | ... reinstalling debian? |
| 11:27.20 | lightangel | sorry, there's the ifconfig |
| 11:27.23 | elfolnx | sound like a microsoft registered procedure |
| 11:27.34 | lightangel | and route |
| 11:27.41 | Shadowcat | elfolnx: are you going to ask a question or just troll? |
| 11:27.43 | *** join/#debian pcharky (n=khagen@ip503c6061.speed.planet.nl) |
| 11:27.48 | karsten | lightangel: Nope. |
| 11:27.49 | kevix | elfolnx: there is a solution. but no one here know it at the moment. |
| 11:28.00 | elfolnx | kevix: cool... |
| 11:28.06 | lightangel | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1990 <- there's the interface file |
| 11:28.12 | kevix | Shadowcat: do you know how to fix the initramfs issue? |
| 11:28.14 | Phlexonance | whats a good ICQ client for debian, and are there other good music players than xmms ? |
| 11:28.18 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: i'm in the udev - kernel - initramfs-tools deathloop |
| 11:28.19 | *** join/#debian reasytige (n=gerry@cpc2-blfs5-0-0-cust693.belf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 11:28.20 | lightangel | karsten sorry, what nope? |
| 11:28.21 | *** join/#debian sH4 (n=foo@220.74.129.4) |
| 11:28.22 | munzir | karsten: sorry though I found the explanation of the flags on aptitude ? I still can't understand why it says "p wdiff" though I didn't purged or removed partially that package |
| 11:28.26 | karsten | Phlexonance: apt-cache search icq |
| 11:28.34 | *** join/#debian amaldo (n=amaldo@port-212-202-77-66.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 11:28.34 | karsten | Phlexonance: ... dittos music or mp3 or ogg. |
| 11:28.42 | Shadowcat | kevix: number 1, learn to read bug reports before you install kernels from unstable |
| 11:28.44 | reasytige | Shadowcat: just installed the nvidia drivers on amd64 sarge |
| 11:28.48 | S2AnGeL | how do you get lilo to actial wrk on netinstal after you got the netinstall prettyy much complete |
| 11:28.48 | karsten | Phlexonance: GAIM prolly, trillian, some others. |
| 11:28.53 | Shadowcat | number 2, LEARN to keep a working kernel as a backup |
| 11:28.58 | Phlexonance | karsten: thx |
| 11:29.06 | reasytige | but i can't get X to run.. and ideas? getting a no screen found |
| 11:29.08 | karsten | !tell S2AnGeL about smart questions. |
| 11:29.10 | karsten | !sunday |
| 11:29.10 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 11:29.14 | Shadowcat | number 3, go grab a knoppix cd and fix stuff manually |
| 11:29.19 | kevix | Shadowcat: my kernel is fine. its elfolnx who has the problem. |
| 11:29.30 | Shadowcat | kevix: ya but he read that as well |
| 11:29.30 | karsten | lightangel: Gotta reboot here, see you in a few. |
| 11:29.32 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: i've a working kernel: 2.6.8 |
| 11:29.34 | *** join/#debian Baaanana (i=Baaanana@dsl51B67B9C.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 11:29.40 | Shadowcat | elfolnx: that wasn't for you |
| 11:29.47 | Baaanana | Hy! |
| 11:29.56 | *** join/#debian xammu (n=xammu@p54B385D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:30.02 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: it's my problem that kevix told you |
| 11:30.06 | HazyNRG | hi, i've defined an alias interface in /etc/network/interfaces. i put the eth0's params, just changing the ip and the 'auto' line. but ifup eth0:0 tells me he doesnt have all the variables for eth0:0/inet |
| 11:30.10 | liable | elfolnx: you still trying to install 2.6.15? |
| 11:30.15 | Shadowcat | elfolnx: ya and I just gave you a solution |
| 11:30.16 | elfolnx | liable: yep |
| 11:30.19 | S2AnGeL | sorry just woke up |
| 11:30.27 | Shadowcat | go read what I just typed |
| 11:30.29 | *** join/#debian priscila (n=priscila@unaffiliated/prinewgirl) |
| 11:30.39 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: it's not a real solution.. i must be able to run update-initramfs |
| 11:30.51 | *** join/#debian edt (n=knoppix@dsl-147-10.aei.ca) |
| 11:30.53 | elfolnx | but i cannot because it says i need a newer kernel |
| 11:30.55 | *** part/#debian pcharky (n=khagen@ip503c6061.speed.planet.nl) |
| 11:30.56 | Shadowcat | you can run that within a knoppix chroot |
| 11:31.01 | elfolnx | ok |
| 11:31.05 | Shadowcat | if you know what you're doing |
| 11:31.09 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: i'll do that way |
| 11:31.14 | elfolnx | i do know |
| 11:31.15 | Shadowcat | the emphasis being on if here |
| 11:31.19 | liable | elfolnx: firstly, get te deb for the 2.6.12 kernel, install it. then apt-get -f install, then try the 2.6.15 |
| 11:31.31 | elfolnx | liable: where do i find the 2.6.12 one? |
| 11:31.33 | lord_rob | Hi ! I'm trying to install sarge via debootstrap on a kanotix live-cd but it always fails stating error while processing "/var/cache/apt/archives/bash_2.05b-26_i386.deb" also "e2fsprogs_1.37-2sarge1_i386.deb". How can I fix this problem ? |
| 11:31.33 | *** join/#debian LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@68.93.136.141) |
| 11:31.36 | liable | or just fucking remove udev.. |
| 11:31.40 | elfolnx | liable: eh eh |
| 11:31.46 | Shadowcat | liable: personally only insane people would run kernels from unstable |
| 11:31.49 | elfolnx | liable: the 2.6.15 won't boot in any case |
| 11:31.57 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: i'm on testing |
| 11:31.59 | *** join/#debian streuner (n=streuner@p54A5FDC4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:32.02 | liable | Shadowcat: 2.6.15 is in etch no? |
| 11:32.05 | Shadowcat | if you must run 2.6.15, please for god sakes compile it yourself |
| 11:32.09 | *** join/#debian abrocadabro (n=abrocada@postal.anu.edu.au) |
| 11:32.15 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: a _TESTING_ apt-get dist-upgrade told me it wanted a newer udev etc etc |
| 11:32.24 | liable | elfolnx: what error wen it boots? |
| 11:32.32 | elfolnx | liable: the ramdisk is really fucked |
| 11:32.33 | Shadowcat | elfolnx: yes that's normal |
| 11:32.34 | S2AnGeL | fell asleep here.. I have a sata, two 160 wd1600 , I made a software raid everything finaly went right.. but when I got to the make lilo part it just gave a error said it could not do it I don't rember why but I really had or do not know of a way to get to a consol to edit lilo config or do like the example s on the net so I rebooted |
| 11:32.36 | elfolnx | it can't find udev |
| 11:32.38 | lightangel | ok, I have NO IDEEA why it doesn't works.... Shadowcat you said something about gateway. that's a LAN IP that doesn't uses any gate. that IP was a PC in the :AN |
| 11:32.40 | lightangel | : = L |
| 11:32.48 | liable | elfolnx: do you have gnome? |
| 11:32.54 | elfolnx | liable: no |
| 11:32.55 | kevix | elfolnx: does it not go to busybox? |
| 11:33.04 | elfolnx | kevix: yes, to byusybox |
| 11:33.20 | Shadowcat | I have a very simple solution for running newer unbroken kernels |
| 11:33.21 | liable | elfolnx: purge the kernel, remove udev, try installing the kernel again |
| 11:33.22 | Shadowcat | I compile my own |
| 11:33.28 | Shadowcat | if I break it, it's my own fault |
| 11:33.36 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: eh eh, it's my way too |
| 11:33.43 | Shadowcat | the repository is not reliable for newer kernels |
| 11:33.45 | elfolnx | liable: the 2.6.12? |
| 11:33.49 | Shadowcat | things break every other week |
| 11:33.55 | liable | elfolnx: no, 2.6.15 |
| 11:33.58 | elfolnx | liable: ok |
| 11:34.09 | Shadowcat | plus the fact that there's no respository kernel that supports reiser4 and software suspend 2 |
| 11:34.15 | elfolnx | eh eh |
| 11:34.17 | kevix | Shadowcat: should there be new standards for 'unstable' |
| 11:34.28 | elfolnx | i'll install a gentoo-sources... |
| 11:34.34 | Shadowcat | kevix: standards for unstable are just fine |
| 11:34.41 | Shadowcat | things are supposed to break once in a while |
| 11:34.54 | Shadowcat | it's testing that gets in a bind because that repository isn't updated as often |
| 11:35.05 | Shadowcat | in unstable it takes 24 hours for things to get fixed |
| 11:35.09 | Shadowcat | in testing it takes 24 days |
| 11:35.21 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: are you telling me i must stop using testing? |
| 11:35.40 | S2AnGeL | how do u boot a software raid when you have nothing in master boot record? |
| 11:35.40 | Shadowcat | I stopped using testing for that exact reason |
| 11:35.48 | kevix | Shadowcat: huh. bugs are supposed to be tested in unstable sufficiently then go into testing. |
| 11:35.51 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: what are you using ? unstable? |
| 11:35.55 | *** join/#debian rem_ (n=rem@adsl-170-226-bs1.datacomm.ch) |
| 11:36.02 | Shadowcat | kevix: no that's not how it works |
| 11:36.11 | Shadowcat | if a package survives 7 days in unstable it's kicked to testing |
| 11:36.21 | *** join/#debian myr (n=myr@d80-170-223-18.cust.tele2.fr) |
| 11:36.21 | Shadowcat | whether or not it works is a different matter |
| 11:36.24 | *** join/#debian patlkli (n=patlkli@217.91.79.188) |
| 11:36.25 | elfolnx | eh eh |
| 11:36.34 | kevix | Shadowcat: there is a priority: high,medium,low |
| 11:37.10 | Shadowcat | actually we should just model after the bsd system |
| 11:37.19 | Shadowcat | have stable-release and devel-release once in a while |
| 11:37.25 | Shadowcat | that system makes a lot more sense |
| 11:37.58 | kevix | Shadowcat: many folks have tried to change debian release policy, few have succeeded |
| 11:38.09 | Shadowcat | kevix: well several have |
| 11:38.12 | Shadowcat | it's called |
| 11:38.14 | Shadowcat | !based on debian |
| 11:38.14 | dpkg | Sorry you're not running Debian, but something based off of it. If you're lucky you might get help in #debian and if you are extremely lucky it might even solve your problem, otherwise your best bet is to use the support channel for your chosen distro. If people tell you to go there, please don't argue/complain or demand support |
| 11:38.16 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 11:38.42 | kevix | Shadowcat: forking is not 'changing' x-) |
| 11:38.46 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: do you suggest me to pass to stable?\ |
| 11:38.59 | Shadowcat | go to stable or unstable |
| 11:39.02 | Shadowcat | just don't stay in testing |
| 11:39.05 | elfolnx | ok |
| 11:39.06 | Shadowcat | testing is slow |
| 11:39.23 | kevix | elfolnx: if you are new to debian, its always suggested to use stable! |
| 11:39.29 | elfolnx | kevix: i'm not new |
| 11:39.41 | Shadowcat | but if you've been in testing for a while unstable might actually be better for you |
| 11:39.43 | kevix | elfolnx: to debian or gnu? |
| 11:39.49 | elfolnx | kevix: to debian |
| 11:40.00 | kevix | elfolnx: on then its your fault x-) |
| 11:40.03 | elfolnx | i used debian for a while, then i passwd to gentoo for my own laptop... |
| 11:40.15 | elfolnx | i don't like apt-get deathlocks |
| 11:40.21 | elfolnx | i really don't like |
| 11:40.27 | *** join/#debian ^Marco78^ (n=marco@85-18-136-96.fastres.net) |
| 11:40.32 | Shadowcat | nothing wrong with apt |
| 11:40.35 | kevix | elfolnx: you picked a REALLY bad time to use testing. |
| 11:40.43 | Shadowcat | it's the darn binaries that are a problem |
| 11:40.45 | SlayerXP | "i ran beta software, and am going to bitch about beta software sometimes not working!" |
| 11:40.55 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: i know |
| 11:41.07 | Shadowcat | apt is actually much better than portage at resolving complex dependencies |
| 11:41.10 | elfolnx | so, what kde version we are in stable? |
| 11:41.14 | kevix | Shadowcat: do I smell a gentoo users! |
| 11:41.16 | ^Marco78^ | Buongiorno!...C'è anche qualche Italiano? |
| 11:41.23 | Shadowcat | kevix: I use gentoo |
| 11:41.24 | kevix | !it |
| 11:41.24 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 11:41.29 | Shadowcat | I use debian too |
| 11:41.31 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: yeah, but when the repositories are fucked, they're fucked |
| 11:41.44 | Shadowcat | elfolnx: umm portage is the same |
| 11:41.50 | Shadowcat | when the source is fucked the ebuild's fucked |
| 11:41.55 | lightangel | karsten do you have any other ideeas? |
| 11:41.56 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: yeah, but it complains less :) |
| 11:42.05 | Shadowcat | elfolnx: complaints are good |
| 11:42.13 | Shadowcat | I'd rather get an error than segfaults |
| 11:42.19 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: yeah but now they're stopping me to do other things |
| 11:42.28 | Shadowcat | so force it |
| 11:42.36 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: don't work |
| 11:42.36 | *** part/#debian ^Marco78^ (n=marco@85-18-136-96.fastres.net) |
| 11:42.40 | kevix | elfolnx: it is always recommented to read debian-user mailing list to see if any problems before upgrades! |
| 11:42.48 | elfolnx | kevix: super |
| 11:42.49 | *** join/#debian crosswinds (n=crosswin@84.39.1.31) |
| 11:42.53 | *** join/#debian laust (n=laust@44.102-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 11:43.10 | *** join/#debian Thug-N-Me (n=speyer@host-84-9-15-252.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 11:43.13 | elfolnx | ok i search for my own what version of kde we have in stable, then i decide to migrate to stable or unstable |
| 11:43.19 | elfolnx | never testing anymore in my life |
| 11:43.22 | kevix | elfolnx: if you wait a week, someone else will have the error first! |
| 11:43.35 | elfolnx | i cannot wait a week |
| 11:43.40 | elfolnx | i have to get this fixed today |
| 11:43.49 | kevix | elfolnx: then you need to do research first! |
| 11:43.59 | kevix | elfolnx: or use stable! |
| 11:44.02 | Phlexonance | the font used on xmms and vlc is extremley small, i can barely read it, how can i fix this? |
| 11:44.03 | elfolnx | i use stable |
| 11:44.17 | Shadowcat | I use unstable |
| 11:44.18 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 11:44.22 | *** join/#debian derril (i=derril@S010600e02995d83c.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 11:44.23 | crosswinds | hi, does anyone knows something about cdd? |
| 11:44.37 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: no major problems? |
| 11:44.39 | kevix | I use both stable and unstable (but on differnt machines) |
| 11:44.43 | laust | Unstable here too |
| 11:44.46 | elfolnx | (like the one i hjave in testing) |
| 11:44.49 | Shadowcat | elfolnx: we know what we're doing |
| 11:44.53 | Shadowcat | you don't |
| 11:44.53 | *** join/#debian CalJohn (n=cal[]joh@augusta54.demon.co.uk) |
| 11:44.57 | crosswinds | i use testing |
| 11:45.01 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: i know |
| 11:45.20 | *** join/#debian juh (n=juh@p5082CB64.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:45.23 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: but i cannot assume the guy that will use this machine will do too |
| 11:45.24 | *** join/#debian prinewgirl (n=priscila@unaffiliated/prinewgirl) |
| 11:45.25 | kevix | elfolnx: the issue is that problem in unstable are fixed BEFORE they are fixed in testing |
| 11:45.34 | elfolnx | kevix: that's cool |
| 11:45.43 | crosswinds | the testing is in a good stability state |
| 11:45.54 | elfolnx | for example my problem is not in unstable, cause it has already been fixed? |
| 11:46.03 | elfolnx | crosswinds: do a dist-upgrade :) |
| 11:46.08 | Shadowcat | it was fixed on the same day |
| 11:46.20 | elfolnx | ok, let's unstable |
| 11:46.22 | crosswinds | i already done |
| 11:46.24 | Shadowcat | elfolnx: he probably did, but he read the bug reports before upgrading |
| 11:46.24 | kevix | crosswinds: did you have a problem with udev/kernel/initramfs ? |
| 11:46.26 | Phlexonance | the font used on xmms and vlc is extremley small, i can barely read it, how can i fix this? |
| 11:46.50 | juh | can anybody confirm that perl is broken in sid? I cannot install perl and therefore a lot of other packages are not installable. |
| 11:47.01 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: i read them after, the kernel 2.6.12 is not yet there |
| 11:47.05 | elfolnx | anyway |
| 11:47.08 | Shadowcat | perl, broken in sid? |
| 11:47.19 | kevix | elfolnx: I forgot, apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 11:47.25 | Shadowcat | doesn't say anything in #debian-devel |
| 11:47.26 | elfolnx | kevix: eh eh |
| 11:47.28 | juh | Shadowcat, maybe just me |
| 11:47.46 | crosswinds | kevix, do you know something about cdd? |
| 11:47.52 | nkuttler | Phlexonance: the xmms skin or playlist? |
| 11:47.53 | *** join/#debian brandelune (n=bubu@pl257.nas934.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp) |
| 11:47.56 | liable | elfolnx: did you try what i said? |
| 11:48.23 | kevix | crosswinds: cdd? not sure what you mean? |
| 11:48.35 | Phlexonance | nkuttler: the skin, even the windows for choosing files |
| 11:48.39 | elfolnx | liable: of course |
| 11:48.42 | crosswinds | customized debian distribution |
| 11:48.44 | *** join/#debian datrIx (n=datr1x@cpc1-bolt6-4-0-cust178.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 11:48.52 | elfolnx | liable: the problem is that linux-image-2.6.15 won't boot |
| 11:49.03 | Phlexonance | nkuttler: it looks something like 5pt and its the same on vlc |
| 11:49.08 | nkuttler | Phlexonance: the skin is a bitmap. can't change the font. elst look at the preferences. |
| 11:49.08 | kevix | crosswinds: that is what I thoguth you meant. |
| 11:49.12 | Shadowcat | ok enough of this elfolnx |
| 11:49.16 | Shadowcat | we're going around in circles |
| 11:49.18 | *** join/#debian Zeit|awy (n=wurscht@p54A79A71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:49.19 | elfolnx | it needs to regenerate the ramdisk... and initramfs-tools needs the newer kernel to run |
| 11:49.20 | nkuttler | Phlexonance: i guess vlc is the same |
| 11:49.20 | Shadowcat | you know what you have to do |
| 11:49.22 | Shadowcat | so either go do it |
| 11:49.25 | bananafly | i get loads of error messages saying udevd and hotplugd can't start when i boot. any ideas? |
| 11:49.26 | *** join/#debian xorian` (i=obbie@dD5E0052E.access.telenet.be) |
| 11:49.28 | Shadowcat | or stop complaining |
| 11:49.32 | *** join/#debian danpo (n=danpo@85-124-150-118.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 11:49.40 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: can i respond to liable questions? |
| 11:49.44 | Phlexonance | nkuttler: but what with the windows for choosing files? |
| 11:49.54 | elfolnx | i wasn't complaining, i was respond a question |
| 11:49.56 | Shadowcat | liable: you've already said that 20 times already |
| 11:49.59 | crosswinds | kevix: worked on that? |
| 11:50.02 | Phlexonance | nkuttler: they are not skins |
| 11:50.03 | Shadowcat | but sure, until he gets tired of you |
| 11:50.06 | liable | Shadowcat: wtf? |
| 11:50.08 | nkuttler | Phlexonance: did you look in the prefences? |
| 11:50.21 | Phlexonance | nkuttler: yes there was no such preference |
| 11:50.28 | Shadowcat | liable: we're going around in circles, i.e. wasting time |
| 11:50.29 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 11:50.58 | kevix | crosswinds: no but go: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD |
| 11:51.11 | crosswinds | yes |
| 11:51.11 | *** join/#debian ufoalien (n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch) |
| 11:51.12 | liable | Shadowcat: but i havent said anything 20 times.. and i would like to see this shitty problem solved.. :P |
| 11:51.18 | nkuttler | Phlexonance: xmms has a font setting. that's for sure. no idea what toolkit they use. |
| 11:51.19 | Phlexonance | knuttler: font settings in xmms preferences are set to 16 pt! |
| 11:51.20 | *** part/#debian abrocadabro (n=abrocada@postal.anu.edu.au) |
| 11:51.23 | Shadowcat | liable: not you, elfolnx |
| 11:51.34 | *** join/#debian Benton (n=Benton@p5089452E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:51.34 | Phlexonance | nkuttler: and its so small I can barely read it |
| 11:51.35 | crosswinds | i already generated the first cd |
| 11:51.36 | tziku458 | how i set directory root at apache2 ? where and what to write... |
| 11:51.37 | liable | right. |
| 11:51.47 | crosswinds | without any customization |
| 11:51.47 | *** join/#debian tomas_ (n=tomas@81-234-92-64-no91.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 11:51.49 | elfolnx | there is some new, how to set the gpg keys to apt? |
| 11:51.51 | liable | elfolnx: so, you removed udev? |
| 11:51.57 | *** join/#debian robinl1 (n=robinl1@linth.xs4all.nl) |
| 11:52.00 | tomas_ | anyone heard of vloopback? |
| 11:52.08 | Shadowcat | !anyone |
| 11:52.08 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 11:52.12 | kevix | crosswinds: sounds like you have things under control' |
| 11:52.15 | elfolnx | liable: yes, and i'm going to unstable |
| 11:52.28 | tomas_ | does someone knows how to get vloopback working? |
| 11:52.38 | tomas_ | i have a sony handycam that i would like to use a webcam |
| 11:52.50 | liable | elfolnx: ok, good luck. |
| 11:53.13 | elfolnx | i hope better luck than with testing |
| 11:53.44 | Shadowcat | the next scene will be elfolnx throwing the machine out the window due to segfaults in unstalbe |
| 11:53.47 | Shadowcat | unstable* |
| 11:53.50 | *** join/#debian Acid`X (n=tim@201.243.245.31) |
| 11:54.07 | liable | or broken x.. |
| 11:54.26 | tomas_ | Shadowcat: do you know anything how to get vloopback working? |
| 11:54.32 | *** join/#debian OleMoudi (n=TK422@157.Red-83-46-189.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:54.38 | elfolnx | Shadowcat: you're more useful if you tell me how to add a mirror gpg key to apt-get |
| 11:54.54 | kevix | !gpg |
| 11:54.54 | dpkg | it has been said that gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard, a free public-key encryption program available , now in main . or http://www.gnupg.org, but apt-get install gnupg |
| 11:55.01 | *** join/#debian nykheyn (n=nykheyn@host192-117.pool878.interbusiness.it) |
| 11:55.02 | kevix | !apt-key |
| 11:55.11 | Shadowcat | elfolnx: that's called, reading the topic |
| 11:55.11 | elfolnx | !apt-key |
| 11:55.19 | *** part/#debian florin-_- (n=florin@host243-169.pool874.interbusiness.it) |
| 11:55.30 | liable | !2006 key |
| 11:55.30 | dpkg | methinks 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. You can also install the key as follow, explicitly trusting this message with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
| 11:55.42 | *** join/#debian paquin (n=paquin@host29-159.pool8256.interbusiness.it) |
| 11:55.43 | nkuttler | tziku: /etc/apach2 is a good place to start. or httpd.apache.org |
| 11:55.58 | elfolnx | i though it was something related to IRC... |
| 11:56.09 | *** join/#debian josep (n=weaver@180.Red-81-36-192.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:56.56 | nykheyn | hello, i'm installing debian. i've apt-getted enlightenment, xserver-xorg and xdm, but X doesn't work. what I've missed? |
| 11:57.06 | karsten | !tell nykheyn about xcfg |
| 11:57.35 | karsten | !tell nykheyn about setup x |
| 11:58.00 | tomas_ | is vloopback that unknown? |
| 11:58.04 | *** join/#debian Cynthrax (n=none@85-124-22-59.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 11:58.07 | *** join/#debian blakkino (n=BLaCk@host108-218.pool8254.interbusiness.it) |
| 11:58.19 | *** join/#debian mirco_ (n=mirco@p54B2065D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:58.54 | bananafly | why do i get error messages that says hotplugd can't start when i boot? |
| 11:59.01 | liable | nykheyn: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 11:59.07 | karsten | !tell bananafly about smart questions |
| 11:59.17 | karsten | bananafly: Presumably, because it can't start. |
| 11:59.19 | nykheyn | ehm, i'm using irssi for the first time in my life, what i could do in order to read other windows? |
| 11:59.26 | karsten | bananafly: pasting the message would be most helpful. |
| 11:59.44 | liable | nykheyn: ctrl n/p or esc# |
| 12:00.14 | *** join/#debian Ke (n=Ke@dsl-202-72-133-148.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 12:00.26 | Ke | hello anyone there |
| 12:00.30 | opqdonut | me |
| 12:00.31 | nykheyn | ok, thanks. |
| 12:00.33 | Ke | i got a problem with my Debian r3.1 |
| 12:00.51 | kevix | Ke: that's what we are here for x-) |
| 12:00.54 | Ke | it installed fine but every now and then the screen turns fully black |
| 12:00.58 | nykheyn | but xdm doesn't install x-window-system? |
| 12:01.03 | liable | no |
| 12:01.16 | Ke | it turns fully black and i can't get it to come back on |
| 12:01.29 | liable | !+depends xdm |
| 12:01.29 | Ke | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.31 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 12:01.43 | *** join/#debian justStormY (n=rgaior@p5080D7F3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:01.43 | elfolnx | cool.. going from that point of testing to stable only updates my old kernel :) |
| 12:01.50 | opqdonut | Ke: laptop? |
| 12:01.52 | kevix | Ke: screen saver? |
| 12:01.55 | Ke | yeah |
| 12:01.57 | elfolnx | i think i will keep stable |
| 12:02.03 | Ke | i am on laptop opq |
| 12:02.07 | Ke | what a guess ^_^ |
| 12:02.10 | *** join/#debian WillH (n=Will@lns-bzn-34-82-249-197-224.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 12:02.11 | liable | elfolnx: good move |
| 12:02.18 | elfolnx | eh eh |
| 12:02.20 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 12:02.20 | dpkg | somebody said popcon was the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 12:02.22 | Phlexonance | How can I convert a NTFS formatted HDD into ext3 without loosing the data? |
| 12:02.29 | liable | !popcorn |
| 12:02.37 | elfolnx | liable: you know what version of kde is there on stable? 3.5.1? |
| 12:02.44 | sami | Phlexonance, with another hdd |
| 12:02.44 | *** join/#debian piezo (n=piezo@62.147.152.31) |
| 12:02.51 | *** join/#debian bn` (n=bn@p54A826AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:03.08 | Ke | is there a way to fix that :opqdonut? |
| 12:03.09 | opqdonut | Ke: does this happen only in X or even on a vt? does it happen randomly or when the machine has been idle for a while? |
| 12:03.11 | liable | elfolnx: 3.3 iirc |
| 12:03.20 | elfolnx | ah... |
| 12:03.28 | *** part/#debian WillH (n=Will@lns-bzn-34-82-249-197-224.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 12:03.30 | Phlexonance | sami: no other way? |
| 12:03.33 | elfolnx | ok |
| 12:03.35 | dpkg | xdm: depends on debconf (>= 1.2.9) | debconf-2.0, xbase-clients, cpp, libpam-modules, libpam-runtime (>= 0.76-13.1), libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libice6, libpam0g (>= 0.76), libselinux1 (>= 1.28), libsm6, libx11-6, libxau6, libxaw8, libxdmcp6, libxext6, libxinerama1, libxmu6, libxp6, libxpm4, libxt6, debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0 |
| 12:03.37 | liable | elfolnx: actually, fucked if i remember |
| 12:03.55 | elfolnx | liable: what do you mean with "fucked" ? |
| 12:03.58 | *** join/#debian SEcki (i=foobar@p3E9E7795.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:04.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 434] by debhelper |
| 12:04.20 | *** join/#debian floe (n=konversa@i577B2FD0.versanet.de) |
| 12:04.42 | liable | elfolnx: basically, that staement means 'i cant remember' |
| 12:04.56 | elfolnx | ah ok :) |
| 12:04.57 | *** join/#debian rasto (n=bbb@bbb.ynet.sk) |
| 12:05.01 | elfolnx | better than 3.3 |
| 12:05.05 | elfolnx | :) |
| 12:05.08 | bananafly | karsten: the error message i get is: udevd-event[3526] run-program: exec of program '/lib/udev/udev_run_devd' failed |
| 12:05.16 | *** join/#debian mdo (n=13h7@p508A43AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:05.27 | bananafly | and something similar for 'lib/udev/udev_run_hotplugd |
| 12:05.39 | *** join/#debian Fische (n=Fische@25.173.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 12:05.52 | Fische | Does anyone know any variants of xeyes, sort, df and ln? |
| 12:05.57 | Phlexonance | how can I open konqueror with root rights? |
| 12:06.22 | liable | Phlexonance: kde has a "run as su" option in the menu |
| 12:06.35 | *** join/#debian Phati (n=Phati@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:41b7) |
| 12:06.43 | *** part/#debian Phati (n=Phati@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:41b7) |
| 12:06.50 | Phlexonance | liable: option menu, where is that |
| 12:07.07 | karsten | bananafly: Anything logged? Install bootlogd if not. |
| 12:07.36 | liable | Phlexonance: its in the menu somewhere, in system iirc |
| 12:07.38 | *** join/#debian raf256 (n=raf256@unaffiliated/raf256) |
| 12:07.45 | bananafly | karsten: apt-get won't work, my network card is fucked until i get hotplug working |
| 12:07.48 | *** join/#debian raf256` (n=raf256@unaffiliated/raf256) |
| 12:08.13 | karsten | bananafly: I'd suggest you capture log data or get really good with pen and paper. |
| 12:08.22 | *** join/#debian Sh4d (n=yohann@163-144.us.ool.fr) |
| 12:08.37 | robinl1 | bananafly: bananaphone? |
| 12:08.42 | bananafly | karsten: how? |
| 12:08.55 | bananafly | robinl1: absolutely not |
| 12:09.08 | robinl1 | XD |
| 12:09.13 | Phlexonance | liable: it was called "File Manager - Super User Mode" thanks |
| 12:09.23 | karsten | bananafly: That's your problem. I can interpret data. Interpreting void isn't a strong suit. |
| 12:09.33 | robinl1 | err |
| 12:09.39 | robinl1 | i know a guy from denmark named karsten |
| 12:09.41 | robinl1 | is that you? XD |
| 12:09.55 | karsten | robinl1: Highly unlikely. |
| 12:10.00 | robinl1 | karsten: ok |
| 12:10.06 | kevix | robinl1: I know guys named john x-) |
| 12:10.13 | *** join/#debian Kane32 (n=jojo@p549BB328.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:10.18 | robinl1 | if you recognise a Robin Linth<rest is secret>, do tells o |
| 12:10.20 | robinl1 | tell so* |
| 12:10.49 | liable | i know nuzing! |
| 12:11.00 | *** join/#debian kristalino (n=kristali@LNeuilly-152-21-126-73.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:11.28 | *** join/#debian fcn (n=fcn@88.224.212.185) |
| 12:13.28 | Acid`X | !ping |
| 12:13.29 | dpkg | pong |
| 12:14.07 | liable | bananafly: if you are running sid/etch and have udev, then there is hotplug borkedness, that you should have sorted out a while ago when udev basically replaced hotplug.. does tis sound familiar? |
| 12:14.48 | bananafly | karsten: this is my problem: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2006/02/msg00212.html , but it seems noone is interested in fixing it :( |
| 12:14.55 | liable | my h key sucks ass.. |
| 12:14.55 | bananafly | liable: eeh... ? |
| 12:15.19 | *** join/#debian _MiTo_ (n=MiTo@dh84-66.xnet.hr) |
| 12:15.59 | bananafly | liable: i have testing, not really sure if that's etch but it isn't sid |
| 12:16.19 | *** join/#debian jniq (n=jano@chello082119123236.chello.sk) |
| 12:17.13 | *** join/#debian cbr (n=cbr@213-35-221-23-dsl.jhv.estpak.ee) |
| 12:18.05 | *** join/#debian MelkorD (n=MorgothD@kubus.gwarbit.pl) |
| 12:18.21 | *** join/#debian kenrick (n=kenrick@dsl-202-72-133-148.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 12:18.54 | karsten | bananafly: Add me to the list, sorry, busy, tired, and late. |
| 12:19.56 | *** join/#debian edt (n=knoppix@dsl-147-10.aei.ca) |
| 12:22.57 | bananafly | liable: testing is etch. what du you mean with sorting out hotplug borkedness? how do I do that? |
| 12:24.56 | *** join/#debian elfolnx (n=elfo@31.170.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 12:26.33 | elfolnx | ok, as someone said before, now my problem is a broken X... it fails saying "Cannot open device /dev/input/mice" |
| 12:28.16 | *** join/#debian Rjx (i=rehan@81-86-131-94.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 12:29.23 | *** join/#debian doccae (n=doccae@p549D219A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:29.37 | bananafly | liable: What do you mean with fixing hotplug borkedness? How do I do that? |
| 12:30.56 | *** join/#debian ejk (n=ejk@unaffiliated/ejk) |
| 12:32.18 | usr13 | where might I find settings for NICs? |
| 12:32.19 | elfolnx | question: how to use a gcc version over another? (i've installed 3.3 and 4.0, i want to use 3.3 to compile the nvidia driver, as the kernel was compiled with 3.3) |
| 12:32.34 | usr13 | (From CLI) |
| 12:33.14 | liable | bananafly: when udev superceded hotplug, you needed to manually purge hotplug (or something, i dont remember) i was just wondering wheter you had done this (although it prolly has nothing to do with your problem..) |
| 12:33.37 | liable | usr13: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:33.46 | usr13 | tnx |
| 12:33.53 | laust | I'd like to install gallery2 with postgresql, but apt-get wants to install both postgresql and mysql.. Can anybody tell me how to tell it to use only postgres? |
| 12:34.56 | liable | elfolnx: export CC=gcc-3.4 |
| 12:35.09 | elfolnx | yep :) found that in the nvidia-installer.log |
| 12:35.09 | liable | nite. |
| 12:35.14 | elfolnx | nite |
| 12:35.22 | elfolnx | (here's 13:42) |
| 12:36.26 | liable | 2234 here, had to work too, so bed for me.. :) |
| 12:36.41 | *** join/#debian Trixsey (i=secret@c-139072d5.012-2011-73746f31.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 12:36.43 | *** join/#debian SEcki (i=foobar@p3E9E7795.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:36.44 | bananafly | liable: i haven't done anything to hotplug |
| 12:37.33 | bananafly | liable: does that mean that the hotplug subsystem doesn't work in etch, or what? |
| 12:37.51 | *** join/#debian edt_ (n=knoppix@dsl-147-10.aei.ca) |
| 12:38.23 | *** join/#debian TheLoveBosS (n=TheLoveB@62.139.228.168) |
| 12:40.24 | elfolnx | liable: ok.. stable has kde 3.5 :) |
| 12:40.37 | TheLoveBosS | hello |
| 12:40.57 | TheLoveBosS | :) |
| 12:41.28 | usr13 | what could cause an extraordinarily slow network connection? |
| 12:41.38 | liable | elfolnx: erm, firstly, if you have gcc-4.0, you arent running sarge, and secondly sarge doesnt have kde-3.5.. conclusion= you arent running sarge.. :( |
| 12:42.07 | *** join/#debian fatal (i=gem@gamezone.fjortis.info) |
| 12:42.09 | usr13 | (It's a PCMCIA NIC in a laptop) |
| 12:42.14 | elfolnx | i put stable in sources.list.... |
| 12:42.23 | elfolnx | uhm... |
| 12:42.23 | liable | bananafly: /usr/share/doc/udev/changelog.gz |
| 12:42.50 | liable | elfolnx: its all too late i'm afraid. |
| 12:43.00 | elfolnx | no problem |
| 12:43.15 | *** join/#debian deconvolution (n=deconvol@cpc2-with1-4-0-cust191.bagu.cable.ntl.com) |
| 12:43.35 | liable | now i am really going to bed. |
| 12:44.16 | elfolnx | nite liable |
| 12:44.20 | fatal | I guess noone here has any answer for this but I'll try asking anyway... I have /share shared with samba. In /share/foo and /share/bar i have mounted two disks.... when accessing the share via samba and view free diskspace I see the root disks free space... is there any way to make it possible to see the two submounted free disks space? |
| 12:44.41 | *** join/#debian deb-fun (n=deb-fun@58.187.72.31) |
| 12:44.56 | *** part/#debian deb-fun (n=deb-fun@58.187.72.31) |
| 12:44.57 | blondie | fatal: no |
| 12:45.25 | fatal | blondie: so, the solution (which I'm not going to do) is to make a share for each disk then... :/ |
| 12:45.34 | blondie | or use raid |
| 12:45.36 | blondie | or not care |
| 12:46.19 | blondie | having multiple shares on the same physical disk/partition is problematic too in that respect :) |
| 12:46.29 | *** join/#debian juh (n=juh@p5082E473.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:46.37 | TheLoveBosS | :) |
| 12:47.59 | *** join/#debian ma3x (n=ma3x@116.122.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 12:48.02 | aidan | with apache2 and enabling mods, do I ln -s the .conf or the .load? |
| 12:48.08 | *** join/#debian ootput (n=Landon@c211-30-28-55.rivrw8.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 12:48.12 | ma3x | how do i check my main (mounted) debian partition for errors and badblocks? |
| 12:48.25 | ma3x | I mean I can do shutdown -F but that's only the basic check, right? |
| 12:48.27 | blondie | boot from a livecd? :S |
| 12:48.33 | ma3x | is that the only way? |
| 12:48.41 | blondie | dunno |
| 12:48.53 | *** join/#debian damog (n=damog@debian/developer/damog) |
| 12:49.28 | *** join/#debian xnadal (n=xnadal@81-202-2-27.user.ono.com) |
| 12:49.38 | *** join/#debian _phantom (n=phantom@61.39.46.120) |
| 12:50.03 | *** join/#debian DimmuR|away (n=DimmuR@ecb231.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 12:50.06 | *** join/#debian jussi (n=jussi@port190.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 12:50.07 | *** join/#debian abrotman (n=abrotman@71.224.97.190) |
| 12:50.27 | _phantom | ah! after much configuring of the kernel, i fianlly got my nVidia card to use the latest drivers put out by nvidia themselves. |
| 12:50.46 | _phantom | but i am having a bit of a problem with one small thing.... |
| 12:51.21 | _phantom | this isn't anything to do with the video though.. it has to do with repositories... anyone know where i can get a list of good repositories that i can find programs at? |
| 12:51.45 | *** join/#debian kenrick (n=kenrick@dsl-202-72-133-148.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 12:53.11 | *** join/#debian cd_rom (i=cd_rom@user-3645.lns6-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 12:53.36 | *** join/#debian mortum (n=fjbf@84.232.68.214) |
| 12:54.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 440] by debhelper |
| 12:54.18 | *** join/#debian Eulex (n=alex@h31n1fls33o998.telia.com) |
| 12:54.23 | *** join/#debian Brox (n=peter@dslc-082-082-162-123.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:54.34 | *** join/#debian victor__ (n=victor@mail.crc.fr) |
| 12:55.03 | Brox | i'm setting up ssh so that i don't need a password but its not working for some reason. |
| 12:55.48 | *** join/#debian MalfoeFor (n=opera@user-6674.l1.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 12:55.56 | Eulex | what tells libtool where it should look for .la files? I've had X stuff in /usr/local and it still looks for libXcursor.la in /usr/local/lib |
| 12:56.00 | *** join/#debian Oryn (i=oryn@falcore.fsck.tv) |
| 12:56.25 | *** part/#debian xnadal (n=xnadal@81-202-2-27.user.ono.com) |
| 12:56.58 | *** join/#debian krion_ (n=seb@34.26.185.81.internet9t.9massy1-1-ro-bas-2.9tel.net) |
| 12:56.59 | Brox | on the client machine i do ssh-keygen -t rsa. Then i copy id_rsa.pub the server into ~/.ssh. I put the contents of that file in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 12:57.04 | Brox | and that should be it. |
| 12:57.14 | krion_ | hello |
| 12:57.23 | _phantom | hi |
| 12:57.29 | cd_rom | i try to compile gparted-0.0.8 from source, it needed gtkmm-2.4, i got gtkmm-2.4 installed but in ./configure stage, it said that gtkmm-2.4 is not meet |
| 12:57.54 | Eulex | cd_rom, get the -dev package of gtkmm-2.4. |
| 12:58.04 | *** join/#debian Hairulfr (n=Hairulfr@195.249.147.200) |
| 12:58.08 | *** join/#debian Covener (n=covener@cpe-065-190-166-087.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 12:58.15 | cd_rom | Eulex: i try it now |
| 12:58.17 | Hairulfr | !repositorys |
| 12:58.38 | *** join/#debian pbtk (n=pbtk@alf94-2-82-67-229-125.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:58.57 | Eulex | !mirrors |
| 12:58.57 | dpkg | hmm... debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 12:59.05 | Eulex | Hairulfr, that's what you were looking for? |
| 12:59.10 | *** join/#debian novem (n=novem@c-24-127-183-14.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 12:59.36 | Hairulfr | Eulex: Yeah, but not for me, trying to help - someone needs a list of ftp repositorys |
| 13:00.02 | _phantom | ah, perfect! just what i was looking for, dpkg. thanks. |
| 13:00.29 | novem | hello, can anyone help me with apache2 configuration, Im working on setting up virtual hosts, i created a new dir in var/www, created vhost file in sites-available, and the symlink in sites-enabled, and commented out the default startpage, still no luck. |
| 13:00.46 | Hairulfr | exit |
| 13:00.49 | Hairulfr | /exit |
| 13:00.52 | *** part/#debian Hairulfr (n=Hairulfr@195.249.147.200) |
| 13:01.02 | novem | the domain hits the server, gives default start page as in mydomain.com/apache2-default |
| 13:01.06 | aidan | Unknown DAV provider: svn |
| 13:01.14 | aidan | how do I install the SVN DAV module for apache2? |
| 13:01.21 | *** join/#debian POVaddct (n=chris@linux-tage.tu-chemnitz.de) |
| 13:01.31 | Eulex | aidan, install the right package, then read the docs. |
| 13:01.38 | SlayerXP | aidan: read the docs |
| 13:01.54 | aidan | which docs? does it come with apache2 or svn? |
| 13:01.58 | Eulex | aidan, it's in libapache2-svn, btw |
| 13:02.06 | *** join/#debian outlaw84 (n=mihaly@h36n3c1o912.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 13:02.14 | aidan | ah I was looking in the wrong place |
| 13:02.37 | novem | is servername the equivalent of a hostheader? |
| 13:03.44 | *** join/#debian Dunedan (n=Dunedan@port-212-202-55-227.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 13:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 446] by debhelper |
| 13:04.03 | Dunedan | Does anbody know where to get a megapov packacke (*.deb) for Debian? |
| 13:04.29 | Gnea | packacke? |
| 13:04.41 | Dunedan | package |
| 13:04.57 | Gnea | megapov? |
| 13:05.33 | novem | can anyone tell me, is namevirtualhost the equivalent of a host header? |
| 13:05.48 | Gnea | no |
| 13:06.10 | *** join/#debian bjb_ (n=bjb@66.11.174.103) |
| 13:06.22 | novem | in apache in sites-enabled/default, what tells apache what domain goes to what? |
| 13:06.51 | *** join/#debian xophEr (n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 13:07.00 | outlaw84 | /server irc.dal.net |
| 13:07.06 | SlayerXP | novem: you mean virtual hosts? |
| 13:07.10 | *** join/#debian basanta (n=nepali@202.79.37.177) |
| 13:07.17 | *** join/#debian kenrick (n=kenrick@dsl-202-72-133-148.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 13:07.27 | novem | yes |
| 13:07.41 | *** part/#debian outlaw84 (n=mihaly@h36n3c1o912.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 13:07.55 | *** join/#debian jcwong (n=catalyst@unaffiliated/jcwong) |
| 13:07.57 | SlayerXP | novem: put each vhost container in a seperate file under /etc/apache2/sites-available then symlink them into sites-enabled |
| 13:08.33 | novem | yes, did both, i believe i have made a mistake in the file in sites-available, because on requesting the site , it goes to mydomain/apache2-default/ |
| 13:08.50 | SlayerXP | that sounds like a config error, yes |
| 13:08.55 | novem | err it goes to http://www.mydomain/apache2-defailt |
| 13:08.57 | *** part/#debian laust (n=laust@44.102-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 13:09.11 | novem | im pretty sure its just tossing me to default because i fudged the host header |
| 13:09.59 | novem | if i want mydomain1.com to go to /var/www/mydomain1.com/index.htm, in sites-available/mydomain1 file what to i put for namevirtualhost? |
| 13:10.26 | *** join/#debian Xenguy (n=gnu@206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca) |
| 13:10.31 | *** join/#debian laust (n=laust@44.102-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 13:10.38 | novem | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.16 | *** join/#debian marcels (i=marcel@og-9c66.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 13:11.58 | *** join/#debian httpdss (n=kenny@67-208.dynamic.dedicado.com.uy) |
| 13:12.06 | *** join/#debian tazle (n=tazle@ddr.tky.hut.fi) |
| 13:12.11 | SlayerXP | novem: you need to go back and read the apache docs. |
| 13:12.46 | SlayerXP | or google for the bazillion example of just this kind of thing there are available online |
| 13:13.04 | laust | Hi, does someone know how i could edit the dependencies for a package? |
| 13:13.08 | novem | the apache docs are somewhat over my head, and ive ben googling since 3. i just cant relate the vhost file to my knowledge with IIS |
| 13:13.19 | novem | in iis i use host headers for multiple domains. |
| 13:13.34 | nkuttler | laust: why would you want to do that? |
| 13:13.39 | SlayerXP | novem: then stick to IIS. the world doesn't need yet another poorly configured apache server. |
| 13:13.46 | *** part/#debian httpdss (n=kenny@67-208.dynamic.dedicado.com.uy) |
| 13:14.10 | laust | nkuttler, because i would like to install gallery2. It can use either mysql or postgresql, but apt wants to install both |
| 13:14.12 | novem | I wasn't asking for permission. asking for help. perhaps im in the wrong place, sorry |
| 13:14.59 | SlayerXP | novem: if you're not willing to learn, by reading docs, then stick to what you know. I have no interest in reading about administering IIS so I stick to what I know: apache |
| 13:15.18 | laust | nkuttler, and i want only postgresql |
| 13:15.19 | nkuttler | laust: file a bug against the package, look into equivs |
| 13:15.23 | SlayerXP | I don't have the faintest clue how to do virtual hosts under IIS |
| 13:15.38 | novem | I am willing to learn, I did read the docs on vhosts on apache's site, ive also read comprehensive step-by-steps, and done exactly what they said to do. that's why im here. |
| 13:15.49 | *** join/#debian edt_ (n=knoppix@dsl-142-196.aei.ca) |
| 13:16.11 | SlayerXP | novem: so what _exactly_ have you done? |
| 13:16.14 | novem | rtfm doesnt exactly apply when you have read the manuals, just dont understand them exactly |
| 13:16.19 | laust | nkuttler, ok i'll do that |
| 13:16.20 | kenrick | is there anyway to configure a usb mouse (plug and play) everytime you plug it and uplug? |
| 13:16.43 | *** join/#debian blight (n=blight@dsl-165-189-48.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 13:16.49 | nkuttler | novem: there are very good examples at the apache website. |
| 13:17.01 | *** join/#debian ma3x (n=ma3x@116.122.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 13:17.02 | Thug-N-Me | what is phpbb2-conf-mysql for ? |
| 13:17.07 | *** join/#debian jhnjwng (n=wj1918@pool-70-21-166-133.nwrk.east.verizon.net) |
| 13:17.09 | aidan | Is there a way of listing the packages available via apt-get? I want to install ViewVC |
| 13:17.25 | nkuttler | Thug-N-Me: apt-cache show packagename |
| 13:17.25 | novem | Iv'e created the proper file in sites-available, added the dir to /var/www/mydomain1.com/ in that file, and gave the namevirtualhost mydomain1.com, i created a symlink in sites-enabled, and restarted apache |
| 13:17.26 | blondie | apt-cache search |
| 13:17.49 | aidan | ah cool |
| 13:18.07 | SlayerXP | novem: put your vhost container onto a paste site and give me the link |
| 13:18.15 | novem | okay, one moment |
| 13:18.59 | novem | http://pastebin.com/584936 |
| 13:19.52 | ma3x | something that I don't understand |
| 13:19.57 | ma3x | I had a few cam .avi files |
| 13:20.04 | Thug-N-Me | nkuttler yeah , but will this package create a new daba base for phpbb ? named what ? i dont what it do delete anything in my mysql database ;) |
| 13:20.05 | ma3x | then I copied them from one to another partition |
| 13:20.10 | ma3x | and now they 're not playable anymore |
| 13:20.16 | ma3x | how does that happen? or why? |
| 13:20.36 | novem | i believe i have namevirtualhost wrong |
| 13:20.46 | SlayerXP | novem: what does "apache2ctl configtest" say? |
| 13:21.03 | novem | syntax ok |
| 13:21.07 | nkuttler | Thug-N-Me: no idea. it should not. dump the db if you want to be sure |
| 13:21.09 | SlayerXP | will you be hosting other sites? |
| 13:21.22 | novem | yes, i wouldent bother with vhost if not ;o) |
| 13:21.30 | aidan | blondie: can I get information about the version of the package? the viewcvs package may be new enough to have svn support |
| 13:21.33 | SlayerXP | okay, so try "NameVirtualHost *" |
| 13:21.40 | *** part/#debian Dunedan (n=Dunedan@port-212-202-55-227.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 13:22.06 | novem | ok |
| 13:22.08 | SlayerXP | then replace <VirtualHost pusherrecords.com:80> with <VirtualHost *> |
| 13:22.17 | Thug-N-Me | nkuttler yeah |
| 13:22.20 | SlayerXP | and add a ServerName directive to your container |
| 13:22.24 | blondie | aidan: yes but I can't remember how |
| 13:22.29 | novem | ohh! |
| 13:22.31 | *** join/#debian xilo (n=xilo@80.97.186.132) |
| 13:22.33 | *** join/#debian mejo (n=jonas@debian/developer/mejo) |
| 13:22.48 | blondie | pdo.debian.org says the versions |
| 13:23.23 | *** join/#debian Klaidas (n=klaidas@ctv-84-55-6-137.init.lt) |
| 13:25.10 | novem | perfect. thank you slayer!, I was under the impression that namevirtualhost was servername, |
| 13:25.35 | *** part/#debian kenrick (n=kenrick@dsl-202-72-133-148.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 13:25.39 | *** part/#debian Klaidas (n=klaidas@ctv-84-55-6-137.init.lt) |
| 13:25.40 | *** join/#debian gevaerts (n=fg@195-144-092-017.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) |
| 13:25.55 | aidan | blondie: 404 for me? |
| 13:26.09 | abrotman | .net |
| 13:26.10 | SlayerXP | novem: np |
| 13:26.12 | Eulex | how do I make a package recreate its config files? |
| 13:26.16 | blondie | oh .net then |
| 13:26.22 | abrotman | !tell Eulex about confmiss |
| 13:26.38 | *** join/#debian ignaciofedz (n=nacho@cm-85-152-144-234.telecable.es) |
| 13:26.45 | nkuttler | aidan: packages.debian.org |
| 13:26.52 | abrotman | nkuttler: still down no? |
| 13:26.55 | Eulex | abrotman, oh, thank you :) didn't know that |
| 13:26.58 | novem | for a file created in www/mydomain1/(example: index.html), what permissions would it need to be viewed by web? |
| 13:27.17 | abrotman | nkuttler: yay! .. it's back! |
| 13:27.24 | SlayerXP | novem: debian has a user called www-data. any content will need to be readable by that user. |
| 13:27.25 | nkuttler | abrotman: :) |
| 13:27.28 | *** join/#debian Peterken (i=peter@d54C0CC32.access.telenet.be) |
| 13:27.35 | novem | okay, thanks ;op |
| 13:29.21 | *** join/#debian settd (n=sett@204-2-207-82.pool.ukrtel.net) |
| 13:29.27 | *** join/#debian gogo_ (n=gogo@cpc1-galw1-3-1-cust167.dbln.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:29.47 | settd | could anyone tell if there is some graphical front-end to apt-get except synaptics? |
| 13:29.48 | *** join/#debian myr (n=myr@d80-170-223-18.cust.tele2.fr) |
| 13:30.14 | *** join/#debian sunrise (n=bossekr@dslb-088-064-075-106.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:30.43 | phogg | settd: there have been some, but synaptic is the best |
| 13:30.50 | abrotman | settd: gnome-apt .. |
| 13:30.54 | *** join/#debian avar (n=Huld@dsl-228-236.hive.is) |
| 13:30.56 | *** join/#debian yure (n=yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si) |
| 13:31.14 | *** join/#debian qas (n=q@chelmsystem.futuro.pl) |
| 13:31.26 | *** join/#debian Tallu| (n=hahah@dsl-hkigw7-fe11f900-173.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 13:31.39 | *** join/#debian fly_80 (n=fly@adsl203-156-186.mclink.it) |
| 13:31.40 | *** join/#debian Bluffbar (n=peter@dslc-082-082-162-123.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:31.41 | settd | I see |
| 13:31.53 | ma3x | /dev/hda2: 553/2959712 files (27.7% non-contiguous), 2889649/5927985 blocks |
| 13:31.55 | phogg | kpackage can also do apt, I believe |
| 13:32.02 | ma3x | what means non-contiguous? fragmented? |
| 13:32.15 | phogg | ma3x: more or less, yeah |
| 13:32.38 | Eulex | ma3x, where did you get that info, btw? |
| 13:32.56 | ma3x | Eulex, from e2fsck, haha |
| 13:32.58 | *** join/#debian VolVE (n=abc@c-71-192-139-98.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 13:33.02 | ma3x | why you asking? |
| 13:33.15 | Eulex | ma3x, wanna check how fragmented my own files are :) |
| 13:33.19 | VolVE | Anyone around got experience with LVM2 ? #lvm is quiet as a graveyard... :( |
| 13:33.22 | *** join/#debian foof_ (n=godsmack@p54940DFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:33.35 | foof_ | DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 |
| 13:33.35 | Bluffbar | my Pc sometimes reboots spontaneously - what can i do to find out whats causing it? My guess is that i just have to get a new mainboard sometime. At the moment i have a AsRock 939 Dual Sata2 |
| 13:33.43 | ma3x | Eulex, yeah tell me |
| 13:33.56 | *** join/#debian JohnDoh (n=jeff@unaffiliated/JohnDoh) |
| 13:34.09 | *** join/#debian Acid`X (n=tim@201.243.245.31) |
| 13:34.10 | *** join/#debian erikm (n=erikm@CPE-65-25-241-194.mn.res.rr.com) |
| 13:34.18 | aidan | Bluffbar: yeh, that's a standard problem with a motherboard with hairline fractures |
| 13:34.25 | aidan | a common problem* |
| 13:34.29 | aidan | or just cheap motherboards |
| 13:34.32 | *** join/#debian Mash|out (i=Mash@irc.kuja.in) |
| 13:34.45 | phogg | VolVE: I've set it up once... |
| 13:34.52 | *** part/#debian mash (i=Mash@irc.kuja.in) |
| 13:35.01 | VolVE | phogg: just paraphrasing the issue, one sec |
| 13:35.02 | Bluffbar | aidan: i don't know about fractures - but its cheap |
| 13:35.14 | abrotman | Bluffbar: start with a memtest .. for more info ask #hardware |
| 13:35.20 | *** join/#debian Mash (i=Mash@irc.kuja.in) |
| 13:35.25 | *** part/#debian Mash (i=Mash@irc.kuja.in) |
| 13:35.29 | *** join/#debian foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) |
| 13:35.31 | ma3x | how do I defragment that 27% ? |
| 13:35.38 | blight | Hi all, having a mixer problem here with my installation, can't control volume level ... any suggestions on how to fix that? |
| 13:35.55 | VolVE | phogg: I'm having issues with LVM2 (2.01.04) on Sarge - I added a new drive, but after sucsessfully running 'pvcreate -v /dev/hdc' and 'vgextend -v vg01 /dev/hdc' when I then do 'vgscan' it says it can't find uuid blah-blah-blah, and then that vg01 doesn't exist. After that if I try 'vgreduce -v vg01 /dev/hdc' it fails with the same can't find uuid error. |
| 13:35.55 | VolVE | phogg: At that point if I do 'pvcreate -v /dev/hdc' again (sucsessful), and THEN do 'vgreduce -v vg01 /dev/hdc', it removes the new disk and sees the vg01 as before. |
| 13:35.55 | *** join/#debian jdhutchin1 (n=jdhutchi@user-0cdv0h3.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 13:36.06 | Bluffbar | abrotman: i put memtest through 3 passes without error |
| 13:36.10 | *** join/#debian lakcaj (n=lakcaj@wnpgmb02dc1-145-13.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 13:36.13 | abrotman | Bluffbar: only one ? |
| 13:36.19 | abrotman | err three |
| 13:36.25 | abrotman | Bluffbar: try 24 hours |
| 13:36.27 | phogg | VolVE: Uh. Over my head (-: |
| 13:36.32 | VolVE | ha |
| 13:36.35 | *** join/#debian Parasp (n=Paras@202.79.37.177) |
| 13:36.45 | phogg | VolVE: I can only guess, badly, at what might cause that. |
| 13:36.47 | VolVE | phogg: I was able to mkfs.ext3 fine on the same disk as a test, over night I left it running 'badblocks -svw /dev/hdc' but obviously it hasn't finished yet... ;) |
| 13:36.52 | abrotman | Bluffbar: they also make burnin programs .. though it may kill a flaky machine |
| 13:37.21 | ma3x | abrotman, how do I defragment non-contigous? |
| 13:37.26 | *** join/#debian fbn (n=fbn@p549E321C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:37.30 | abrotman | you don't worry about it |
| 13:37.37 | fbn | where can I set the default system wide PATH variable? |
| 13:37.48 | blondie | /etc/profile |
| 13:37.52 | *** join/#debian Mash (i=Mash@unaffiliated/mash) |
| 13:37.58 | *** join/#debian knoppers (i=win2000@unaffiliated/knoppers) |
| 13:38.23 | aidan | when I quit VI, my cursor is in the middle of my buffer, is that normal? |
| 13:38.34 | ma3x | abrotman, come on tell me |
| 13:38.38 | phogg | ma3x: your disk fragmentation will decrease on its own with use, as long as you have a few percent of the disk space unused. |
| 13:38.41 | abrotman | ma3x: i did |
| 13:38.46 | fbn | blondie: there is nothing with PATH in my /etc/profile ... and I don't want to overwrite the system's default, I want to extend it |
| 13:38.46 | abrotman | !defragment |
| 13:38.58 | blondie | fbn: there is in mine |
| 13:39.01 | abrotman | !defrag |
| 13:39.02 | dpkg | [defrag] the best windows screensaver, or what windows users do for emotional satisfaction when the frequency of illegal operations and bluescreens has become too big |
| 13:39.17 | VolVE | phogg: thanks for trying :) I'm writing up a message for the LVM mailing list, hopefully that'll help... |
| 13:39.17 | Bluffbar | abrotman: is there a free burn in program you can recommend? |
| 13:39.32 | phogg | VolVE: good luck |
| 13:39.38 | abrotman | Bluffbar: well .. i killed a machine with cpuburn :) |
| 13:39.42 | ma3x | abrotman, I have a few movies I've made with my cam |
| 13:39.42 | abrotman | !ubcd |
| 13:39.42 | dpkg | from memory, ubcd is http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ or and a version full of windows tools http://www.ubcd4win.com/ |
| 13:39.48 | abrotman | Bluffbar: ubCD might have one |
| 13:40.04 | ma3x | abrotman, and now suddenly they won't play, not with vlc , not with xine, mplayer, with anything. how do I troubleshoot? |
| 13:40.15 | abrotman | ma3x: it has nothing to do with defragging |
| 13:40.22 | abrotman | ma3x: try strace |
| 13:40.39 | abrotman | or check errors .. run from an xterm |
| 13:40.39 | fbn | blondie: an that sets the system default path? |
| 13:40.44 | phogg | ma3x: find out what 'wont play' means. A precise error always helps. |
| 13:40.48 | *** join/#debian Moes (n=Moes@5352DC73.cable.casema.nl) |
| 13:40.52 | blondie | fbn: uhuh |
| 13:40.54 | *** join/#debian bartden (n=bart@d51520AEB.access.telenet.be) |
| 13:41.15 | ma3x | abrotman, strace filename? |
| 13:41.23 | abrotman | strace xine failnem |
| 13:41.26 | abrotman | filename |
| 13:41.31 | fbn | blondie: is uhuh more yes or no? ;) |
| 13:42.00 | blondie | uhuh means yes |
| 13:42.31 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (n=CrazyEdd@203-214-22-24.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 13:42.37 | avar | "Run floppy-based diagnostic tools from CDROM drives. More and more PCs are shipped without floppy drives these days, and it is such a royal pain when you need to run diagnostic tools on them." |
| 13:42.50 | fbn | blondie: thanks :) |
| 13:42.55 | avar | why would it be a PITA to not be able to run diagnostics on your nonexsiting floppy drive? |
| 13:43.05 | ma3x | abrotman, can't do anything with strace, it shows millions of text and nothing useful that i can understand |
| 13:43.10 | *** join/#debian coolsail (n=sail@61.183.218.234) |
| 13:43.13 | blondie | avar: because you can't run them? |
| 13:43.21 | avar | why would you need to? |
| 13:43.24 | abrotman | ma3x: then just run it from a console .. any errors ? |
| 13:43.42 | blondie | avar: don't ask silly questions please |
| 13:44.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 456] by debhelper |
| 13:44.16 | ma3x | abrotman, you mean 'xine file.avi' in the console? |
| 13:44.25 | *** join/#debian asg (n=asg@cpe-024-074-228-024.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 13:44.31 | abrotman | sure |
| 13:44.38 | abrotman | !beer asg |
| 13:44.43 | asg | danke |
| 13:44.44 | ma3x | abrotman, "there is no demuxer plugin available to handle 'file.avi'" |
| 13:44.55 | ma3x | !beer asg |
| 13:44.58 | abrotman | good place to start ? |
| 13:45.03 | *** join/#debian jelly (n=jelly@islands.iskon.hr) |
| 13:45.06 | ma3x | abrotman, what you mean? |
| 13:45.07 | abrotman | !more lager! |
| 13:45.20 | abrotman | ma3x: i mean .. ask google what a dumuxer is |
| 13:45.29 | abrotman | or ask #xine |
| 13:45.29 | ma3x | ohhhhhh damn |
| 13:45.34 | phogg | ma3x: what type does xine think the file is? |
| 13:46.14 | ma3x | phogg, I don't know. it's avi, but it doesnt find any demux for .avi files |
| 13:46.24 | ma3x | though I have w32codecs, mplayer and all that stuff.... |
| 13:46.24 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: TURN IT OFF |
| 13:46.36 | abrotman | and get better taste in music |
| 13:46.45 | Thug-N-Me | ok . but plese dnt shout |
| 13:46.53 | phogg | ma3x: ah I see,x ine's output is not very verbose. Either try to make it spit out more information about the file, or see what file or mplayer thinks the type is. |
| 13:46.54 | Thug-N-Me | please dont shout |
| 13:46.57 | *** join/#debian BFA|WoRsTeNBoY (i=BFA_WoRs@d54C3F301.access.telenet.be) |
| 13:46.57 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: please don't be stupid |
| 13:47.22 | blondie | OH MY GOD |
| 13:47.29 | ma3x | haha |
| 13:47.34 | ma3x | abrotman, :) |
| 13:47.57 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | hi, i want to flush my dns cache because it's resolving a wrong (cached) ip, but using the command `/etc/rc.d/init.d/nscd restart` doesnt seems to work, the dir is empty |
| 13:48.22 | abrotman | rc.d ? |
| 13:48.35 | abrotman | !rc.d |
| 13:48.35 | dpkg | Debian is not DedRat. There is no /etc/rc.d/*. Everything you want is in /etc/*. try (on debian) 'man update-rc.d', or ask me about <red hat tools> |
| 13:49.03 | ma3x | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/584967 |
| 13:49.08 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | abrotman i run suse but cant find help there, people here are nicer :) |
| 13:49.09 | ma3x | that's the output of mplayer garten.avi |
| 13:49.21 | *** join/#debian randey (n=randey@202.65.140.59) |
| 13:49.22 | ma3x | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY, then change to debian :) |
| 13:49.24 | abrotman | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: are you freaking stupid? go to #suse or ##Linux |
| 13:49.33 | ma3x | haha |
| 13:49.40 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | i already switched ma3x for 2 of the 3 machines.. :) |
| 13:50.01 | abrotman | ma3x: and what about that? ask #mplayer . i don't even have it installed |
| 13:50.02 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | the 3rd is suse and is about to expire in a few days so its not worth the effort to change now .. |
| 13:50.03 | ma3x | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY, one more to GO |
| 13:50.11 | abrotman | it's not even in debian |
| 13:50.30 | *** join/#debian skywire (n=skywire@85.90.147.14) |
| 13:50.35 | blondie | has anyone got debian to work on an hp compaq nx6125? (and know which video driver to use) |
| 13:50.48 | abrotman | blondie: lspci ? |
| 13:50.55 | *** join/#debian dvs (n=dvs@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 13:51.00 | *** join/#debian nlight (n=nlight@85.187.188.231) |
| 13:51.04 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | abrotman thnx for that remark |
| 13:51.08 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | and no i'm not stupid |
| 13:51.16 | *** part/#debian skywire (n=skywire@85.90.147.14) |
| 13:51.27 | abrotman | right .. but you ask about suse in #debian .. instead of asking #suse,##linux or #dns |
| 13:51.29 | phogg | ma3x: you need mroe detail. Try adding some -v's to mplayer's command line: mplayer -vvvv file.avi |
| 13:51.45 | blondie | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: can't you tell the difference between #debian and #suse? |
| 13:51.58 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | exuse me! |
| 13:52.08 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | *g* |
| 13:52.19 | blondie | abrotman: it just says ATI Technologies Unknown device 5955 |
| 13:52.28 | dvs | blondie: update-pciids |
| 13:52.31 | abrotman | blondie: update-pciids |
| 13:52.38 | dvs | abrotman: liar! |
| 13:52.42 | Eulex | !they don't know |
| 13:52.42 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 13:52.43 | abrotman | update-usbids! |
| 13:52.44 | blondie | hm |
| 13:52.50 | Eulex | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY, ^^ |
| 13:52.55 | asg | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: iirc, hupping named with the -USR1 or -USR2 signal should get it to dump the cache. Check the man pages to be sure though. |
| 13:53.10 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | thnx |
| 13:53.11 | BFA|WoRsTeNBoY | :) |
| 13:53.56 | *** join/#debian dorel__ (n=liran@85-65-13-229.barak-online.net) |
| 13:54.38 | blondie | er can you get testing netinst CD images? |
| 13:54.45 | ma3x | phogg, abrotman http://pastebin.com/584974 |
| 13:54.48 | *** join/#debian madroach (i=nulliden@p54AD108E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:55.08 | *** join/#debian mkhl (i=mkhl@200-148-41-120.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 13:55.12 | abrotman | ma3x: i already said . i don't even have mplayer installed |
| 13:55.25 | ma3x | ah right, i forgot |
| 13:55.41 | blondie | !amd64 |
| 13:55.41 | dpkg | amd64 is, like, See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 13:56.01 | abrotman | ma3x: sorry . but none of your players will play it ? vlc,xine, mplayer? |
| 13:56.34 | *** join/#debian dbrock (n=user@c-5ab670d5.028-10-67766c2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 13:56.41 | dvs | blondie: Why not? |
| 13:57.00 | blondie | dvs: why not what? |
| 13:57.08 | dbrock | say I have written a patch for a piece of software in Debian, and I want to rebuild the software with the patch applied at every upgrade of the package. What do I do? |
| 13:57.09 | Debby | I have written a patch for a piece of software in Debian, and I want to rebuild the software with the patch applied at every upgrade of the package. What do I do |
| 13:57.17 | blondie | wtf? |
| 13:57.20 | phogg | ma3x: interesting. It can't tell what sort of file that is. |
| 13:57.23 | blondie | dvs: are you a bot? |
| 13:57.25 | dvs | blondie: Is there any reason you can't get the testing CD images? |
| 13:57.26 | blondie | erm |
| 13:57.29 | blondie | Debby: are you a bot? |
| 13:57.34 | Bluffbar | i wan't to dhcpcd to load at startup - where is the best place to put it? |
| 13:57.36 | ma3x | phogg, so what now? |
| 13:57.38 | dbrock | say I am a bot |
| 13:57.39 | blondie | dvs: yes, I can't find them |
| 13:57.51 | dbrock | say I am a bot? |
| 13:57.57 | blondie | sigh |
| 13:58.26 | phogg | ma3x: Good question. If it worked before on the same file then I don't know. Maybe the file has become corruoted. |
| 13:58.28 | abrotman | !es |
| 13:58.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:58.33 | asg | Bluffbar: use update-rc.d or rcconf. |
| 13:58.34 | abrotman | Debby: bot! |
| 13:58.40 | abrotman | blondie: maybe not |
| 13:58.41 | abrotman | ? |
| 13:58.46 | ma3x | phogg, but they are 5 files. how can they all get corrupted? |
| 13:58.50 | dvs | blondie: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 13:59.05 | phogg | ma3x: do any videos play> |
| 13:59.37 | ma3x | phogg, nope, not any of the personal cam videos. otherwise all other vides work |
| 13:59.53 | blondie | abrotman: automated repitition? |
| 13:59.57 | blondie | (nearly) |
| 14:00.13 | phogg | ma3x: what is the actual encoding of the videos? Perhaps whatever lib is used to decode them has been removed or become broken |
| 14:00.15 | abrotman | blondie: or just someone who doesn't read responses :) |
| 14:00.19 | blondie | dvs: no netinst there |
| 14:00.33 | blondie | abrotman: no, it repeated what someone said after 1 sec |
| 14:01.04 | abrotman | Debby: say I love bots |
| 14:01.06 | ma3x | phogg, you mean what codec was used to encode the videos? |
| 14:01.22 | abrotman | Debby: say how do you do? |
| 14:01.24 | phogg | ma3x: Yes |
| 14:01.29 | abrotman | say how do you do? |
| 14:01.35 | ma3x | phogg, the newest divx 6 |
| 14:01.35 | dvs | blondie: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 14:01.42 | abrotman | say i have a program with debian |
| 14:01.56 | *** join/#debian Blissex (n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 14:02.04 | *** join/#debian pidof_me (n=stpe@p50925487.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:02.13 | abrotman | say I have Debian installed, help me? |
| 14:02.22 | dvs | !ask |
| 14:02.22 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 14:02.25 | dvs | ;-) |
| 14:02.36 | blondie | dvs: thanks, can I use you instead of google? :) |
| 14:02.47 | phogg | ma3x: and that worked in mplayer? I thought it only supported divx up to 5 |
| 14:02.51 | dvs | blondie: Puuuullllllleeeeeeeezzzzzzzz! |
| 14:02.56 | *** join/#debian victor__ (i=victor@221.Red-80-37-226.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:03.12 | blondie | h |
| 14:03.15 | *** join/#debian gilianima (n=yanimax_@lab75-3-82-235-26-179.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:03.15 | abrotman | blondie: win me! |
| 14:03.16 | blondie | oh it was a bot |
| 14:03.17 | blondie | HOW RUDE |
| 14:03.20 | *** join/#debian Ian|BG4CRF (n=Adman@58.35.57.62) |
| 14:03.21 | abrotman | blondie: i killed it |
| 14:03.26 | blondie | :o |
| 14:03.26 | ma3x | phogg, that worked in vlc |
| 14:03.32 | blondie | hmm what a prize! |
| 14:03.43 | *** part/#debian victor__ (i=victor@221.Red-80-37-226.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:03.45 | dvs | blondie: give it back! |
| 14:03.47 | *** join/#debian SaLoMoN (n=SaLoMoN@p54A8995C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:03.50 | blondie | :( |
| 14:04.03 | phogg | ma3x: all the same. Try upgrading/reinstalling divx decoding libraries. |
| 14:04.06 | dvs | blondie: it's broken! ;-) |
| 14:04.13 | blondie | dvs: hmm can you find me a .torrent for that download ;) |
| 14:04.23 | ma3x | phogg, how do I do that? |
| 14:04.23 | dvs | blondie: I don't use torrent. |
| 14:04.32 | blondie | bittorrent is good :( |
| 14:04.34 | dvs | blondie: it's only 120MB anyways |
| 14:04.45 | abrotman | blondie: same IP as something else in #php-ve |
| 14:04.49 | phogg | ma3x: you don't know how to search for and install packages? |
| 14:04.56 | *** join/#debian DadaUmpa (n=Dario@host158-103.pool872.interbusiness.it) |
| 14:05.10 | foobarz | it is easy to a make my own .deb package... where is the link to a tutorial? |
| 14:05.14 | blondie | that'll take me at least 5 or 10 mins to download :( |
| 14:05.18 | ma3x | phogg, I do. so simply dpkg -l | grep divx, and then remove/reinstall everything? |
| 14:05.18 | asg | foobarz: install maint-guide |
| 14:05.22 | dvs | foobarz: apt-get install hello |
| 14:05.25 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (n=CrazyEdd@203-214-22-24.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 14:05.29 | asg | foobarz: or /msg dpkg mg |
| 14:05.31 | blondie | abrotman: icy |
| 14:05.36 | abrotman | ici ? |
| 14:05.43 | *** join/#debian Ragedragon (n=Dragon@lns-bzn-54-82-251-101-57.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 14:05.45 | asg | abrotman: chemical company |
| 14:05.48 | dvs | blondie: And that's long? |
| 14:05.53 | abrotman | asg: dow? |
| 14:05.56 | phogg | ma3x: apt-cache search |
| 14:05.59 | asg | abrotman: no, ICI |
| 14:06.02 | blondie | dvs: apaprently |
| 14:06.05 | abrotman | asg: french |
| 14:06.13 | *** join/#debian cahoot (n=radix@82.183.196.76) |
| 14:06.20 | blondie | or rather "I See" |
| 14:06.22 | foobarz | I a link on the web... I'm not currently a deb user, but I'm considering the switch.. and that depends on my ability to master your .deb package system |
| 14:06.23 | asg | abrotman: toast? |
| 14:06.27 | *** join/#debian jcwong (n=catalyst@unaffiliated/jcwong) |
| 14:06.29 | novem | bah |
| 14:06.32 | abrotman | asg: sandwich! |
| 14:06.44 | novem | okay im going to do this when im sober |
| 14:06.45 | blondie | toasted cheese sandwich |
| 14:06.48 | asg | abrotman: earl of |
| 14:07.00 | blondie | sandwich is just down the road from here :) |
| 14:07.10 | abrotman | asg: duke ? |
| 14:07.15 | asg | blondie: do they have a McDonalds in Sandwich? |
| 14:07.24 | blondie | don't think so |
| 14:07.27 | abrotman | blondie: you're in massachusetts? |
| 14:07.34 | blondie | they invented viagra there too |
| 14:07.43 | asg | abrotman: got their asses kicked by UNC yesterday |
| 14:07.51 | blondie | asg: um no |
| 14:07.59 | novem | can anyone help, im apache-stupid , getting error namevirtualhost *;80 has no virtualhosts, have vhosts all set up right with symlinks in sites-enabled |
| 14:08.03 | blondie | erm abrotman erm no |
| 14:08.04 | abrotman | asg: damn right! |
| 14:08.16 | asg | abrotman: not that I care but the local news won't shut up about it |
| 14:08.18 | abrotman | asg: it wasn't even close :) |
| 14:08.24 | asg | novem: did you consult #apache yet? |
| 14:08.42 | abrotman | asg: it's a big deal . i was at F&H waiting for a pool table that never arrived .. so i got stuck watching the game |
| 14:08.43 | novem | i wasnt aware that it was an active channel actually!, that helps |
| 14:09.00 | asg | abrotman: ah, Fox and Hound? |
| 14:09.16 | abrotman | asg: yeah .. they have a bunch of tables .. and usually not too busy .. last night they were packed |
| 14:09.37 | asg | abrotman: yeah, we have a F&H just up the road. Pretty decent place on non-sports days. |
| 14:09.47 | abrotman | asg: at 1130pm .. people were still waiting for tables |
| 14:09.52 | asg | abrotman: eep |
| 14:10.01 | abrotman | asg: i mean to sit down . not to play pool |
| 14:10.02 | asg | abrotman: bring your laptop and play foobillard |
| 14:10.14 | abrotman | asg: i don't htink they're a hotspot |
| 14:10.24 | *** join/#debian va (n=va@master.telpro.lt) |
| 14:10.28 | asg | abrotman: you can play locally if you want to ;) |
| 14:10.34 | abrotman | heh |
| 14:10.41 | abrotman | it was just retarded busy |
| 14:11.00 | *** join/#debian eheil (n=erik@c-69-241-19-197.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 14:11.01 | *** join/#debian [gijoe]_ (n=[gijoe]@h79n1fls310o1039.telia.com) |
| 14:11.01 | va | what is the program that can tell you things about an X client, like it's size in pixels etc ? |
| 14:11.06 | *** join/#debian Trigger13 (n=Trigger@p54A78C78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:11.08 | abrotman | and i couldn't drink . because i ate ALL of my mac&chicken at rockbottom :) |
| 14:11.09 | dvs | dpyinfo |
| 14:11.11 | blondie | xrandr |
| 14:11.12 | asg | va: xdpyinfo |
| 14:11.27 | abrotman | glad to see you all agree |
| 14:11.38 | foobarz | where is the online deb tutorial or book? |
| 14:11.41 | foobarz | or wiki |
| 14:11.41 | va | thanks |
| 14:11.44 | blondie | shall I get my boyfriend to install gentoo on my laptop? :) |
| 14:11.44 | *** join/#debian troyme (n=whm@61.144.54.42) |
| 14:11.48 | abrotman | !tell foobarz about wiki |
| 14:11.50 | *** join/#debian saeko (i=chris@82-43-160-213.cable.ubr04.newm.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 14:11.50 | abrotman | !tell foobarz about ig |
| 14:11.54 | abrotman | !tell foobarz about grounding |
| 14:12.08 | dvs | !smite blondie |
| 14:12.11 | foobarz | oh hell, I'm an idiot... it is in the topic! |
| 14:12.16 | *** join/#debian phyberoptix (n=krunked@nc-65-40-163-187.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) |
| 14:12.17 | abrotman | foobarz: whoops .. wrong wiki :) |
| 14:12.24 | eheil | Hey anyone of you familiar with the zsh dev snapshot that's in unstable? b/c their are some policy violations that I think may need to be reported. |
| 14:12.39 | blondie | it's hard to read the topic when you join in here... too many users |
| 14:12.48 | *** part/#debian coolsail (n=sail@61.183.218.234) |
| 14:13.03 | *** join/#debian knoppers (i=win2000@unaffiliated/knoppers) |
| 14:13.15 | va | the one i wanted was actually xwininfo |
| 14:14.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 465] by debhelper |
| 14:14.07 | *** join/#debian R_engel (n=Vladimir@ip72-51.dialup.wplus.net) |
| 14:14.28 | *** join/#debian libv (n=libv@81.245.160.34) |
| 14:14.55 | *** join/#debian psy (n=m666@dh69-120.xnet.hr) |
| 14:14.56 | *** join/#debian redge- (n=redge@joshua.electronicbox.net) |
| 14:14.59 | *** part/#debian foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) |
| 14:15.38 | libv | hrm... debootstrapping sarge isn't fun. base-config didn't come up properly after the first reboot. I assume that this was replaced by the new debian installer stuff or something, but i'm unable to dig something up immediately. can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 14:15.39 | *** join/#debian Maulkin (n=maulkin@debian/developer/neilm) |
| 14:16.23 | *** join/#debian dimes (n=dimes@ip-85-160-174-34.eurotel.cz) |
| 14:16.24 | *** join/#debian oldsparky (n=OldSpark@host191-88.pool80104.interbusiness.it) |
| 14:16.55 | dimes | je tady nekdo z Cech?? |
| 14:16.58 | psy | hi ppl... |
| 14:17.04 | blondie | dimes: asdaslkasdqweasdas;ldksa;ldk? |
| 14:17.06 | abrotman | there are no docs at the debootstrap site? |
| 14:17.09 | abrotman | !debootstrap |
| 14:17.09 | dpkg | somebody said debootstrap was <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a chroot. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html |
| 14:17.12 | *** join/#debian carolinexV (n=abraham3@85.100.229.239) |
| 14:17.13 | *** join/#debian nstang (n=tNhFq@aul93-1-82-230-73-33.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:17.13 | *** join/#debian Bdimitris\ (n=_artiem@85.100.212.101) |
| 14:17.14 | *** join/#debian chi-yao10F (n=alicazc@85.100.14.152) |
| 14:17.15 | *** join/#debian TOxinghao (n=bancroft@85.100.229.239) |
| 14:17.19 | *** join/#debian yvette3w (n=Mriddlef@85.105.109.191) |
| 14:17.20 | blondie | spam |
| 14:17.26 | abrotman | fucking stupid bots |
| 14:17.30 | *** part/#debian Ian|BG4CRF (n=Adman@58.35.57.62) |
| 14:17.31 | *** join/#debian carloin (n=chipxF@85.101.45.187) |
| 14:17.32 | blondie | GTFO! |
| 14:17.33 | dimes | sorry, im looking for men from my nation |
| 14:17.38 | *** join/#debian TYbrent (n=marzecL\@85.101.45.187) |
| 14:17.38 | asg | O_o |
| 14:17.43 | blondie | for men? this isn't a dating channel |
| 14:17.44 | psy | I have problem with X....when I try to run x-win-sys...it displays me this message AUDIT: Sun Mar 5 15:15:49 2006: 1388 X: client 5 rejected from local host |
| 14:17.45 | *** join/#debian arthur48k (n=mauricio@85.97.122.218) |
| 14:17.49 | dimes | Is here someone from CZR? |
| 14:17.54 | *** join/#debian shih-lie10\ (n=zachary5@85.104.166.122) |
| 14:17.57 | psy | someone have any idea ? |
| 14:18.00 | blondie | dimes: not a dating channel |
| 14:18.03 | *** join/#debian roland3j (n=seymour1@86.127.94.59) |
| 14:18.11 | abrotman | !cz |
| 14:18.11 | dpkg | well, cz is Czech Republic. Kanal pro cechy je #debian-cz |
| 14:18.26 | *** join/#debian Pluk (n=Pluk@12-68-dsl.ipact.nl) |
| 14:18.31 | dimes | danke |
| 14:18.35 | *** join/#debian VppLu (n=pIyAq@81.89.15.33) |
| 14:18.39 | libv | abrotman: seeing "this package is an empty package that is no longer used. It can be removed with no ill effects" on a system that doesn't even have a root account is not fun |
| 14:18.42 | *** join/#debian sebkron (n=sebkron@akq226.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 14:18.57 | libv | (apt-cache show base-config btw) |
| 14:19.14 | abrotman | libv: i'm sure there's a root account .. you just don't know the password :) |
| 14:19.20 | blondie | how can you not have a root account |
| 14:19.27 | abrotman | libv: you could do a root password recovery thing |
| 14:19.37 | asg | libv: base-config should be in sarge. It has been removed from sid and maybe etch at this point. |
| 14:19.41 | libv | abrotman: oh, i'm in, just didn't have to provide a root password at all |
| 14:19.48 | abrotman | heh |
| 14:19.56 | abrotman | libv: are you sure you installed sarge? |
| 14:20.04 | libv | bleh |
| 14:20.10 | blondie | I don't know whether to try and get debian working on my laptop, or play Locomotion :( |
| 14:20.11 | dvs | libv: are you sure you installed Windows |
| 14:20.13 | libv | cat /etc/debian_version is testing |
| 14:20.14 | libv | bah |
| 14:20.17 | abrotman | dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 ? |
| 14:20.17 | dpkg | ii libc6 | tail -1 3.3-3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 14:20.25 | libv | bloody debootstrap |
| 14:20.32 | libv | i said sarge gdammit |
| 14:20.41 | libv | anyway, thanks, that's my very problem |
| 14:20.55 | abrotman | let's bother libv about unichrome! |
| 14:20.56 | libv | i'm now going to waste another half an hour redoing that :) |
| 14:21.00 | libv | :) |
| 14:21.02 | eheil | blondie: What problsma re you having getting Debian on your laptop? |
| 14:21.10 | blondie | the video |
| 14:21.12 | abrotman | libv: why not use the netinst ? |
| 14:21.18 | blondie | eheil: also laziness |
| 14:21.22 | libv | abrotman: modular X on this testbox is going to have to wait another 30 minutes :) |
| 14:21.25 | *** join/#debian thefirst (i=hja123@bb219-74-24-216.singnet.com.sg) |
| 14:21.27 | eheil | blondie: OK, what kind of chipset does it have? |
| 14:21.28 | abrotman | blondie: did you run update-pciids ? |
| 14:21.34 | blondie | abrotman: no not yet ;) |
| 14:21.39 | abrotman | blondie: get on it! |
| 14:21.43 | blondie | I had to swap harddisks |
| 14:21.49 | blondie | Yes Sir! |
| 14:21.56 | dvs | On a laptop? You're brave |
| 14:21.57 | abrotman | libv: but won't you need etch/sid for the X7 from experimental ? |
| 14:22.07 | blondie | brave? |
| 14:22.08 | eheil | blondie: Alsok you mentioned video--is it a problem with xorg or something more general? |
| 14:22.08 | blondie | it's easy |
| 14:22.10 | *** join/#debian fQmartha (n=upauline@85.101.45.187) |
| 14:22.12 | libv | abrotman: yeah, probably, just thought debootstrap from the monolith partition would suit me just fine |
| 14:22.15 | *** join/#debian mrpink (n=florian@unaffiliated/mrpink) |
| 14:22.22 | abrotman | !comfort libv |
| 14:22.22 | dpkg | There, there, libv. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 14:22.28 | dvs | I thought it voids the warantee |
| 14:22.32 | *** join/#debian lsald (n=james@adsl-69-223-186-113.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:22.32 | libv | abrotman: this is a testbox, i just nuke the install once in a while :) |
| 14:22.35 | abrotman | !depends xserver-xorg experimental |
| 14:22.36 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: pre-depends on x11-common (>= 7.0.0-0ubuntu3) |
| 14:22.41 | abrotman | !smack gravity |
| 14:22.42 | blondie | dvs: not really, especially when they wouldn't know |
| 14:22.43 | libv | but apparently not enough to be able to catch this sort of thing |
| 14:22.56 | blondie | the harddisk module is easily removable from underneath |
| 14:22.58 | Thug-N-Me | if i enable squid for firefox then i cannot browser webmin anymore " (111) Connection refused " any ideea ? |
| 14:23.03 | asg | dvs: since when did we care about warranties? |
| 14:23.07 | blondie | and that |
| 14:23.13 | dvs | asg: good point |
| 14:23.13 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: don't use webmin |
| 14:23.16 | asg | dvs: I'm sure installing something other than Windows also voids the warranty |
| 14:23.31 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman thanks for your help |
| 14:23.31 | libv | anyway, rebooting into the monolith install |
| 14:23.33 | blondie | we have more sensible warranty laws here ;p |
| 14:23.42 | libv | thanks abrotman, asg |
| 14:23.42 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: hey .. you asked .. that was my first/best idea :) |
| 14:23.45 | blondie | they have to prove you broke it |
| 14:23.49 | abrotman | libv: enjoy .. |
| 14:23.52 | asg | Thug-N-Me: that's probably because squid is not aware of the non-standard port that webmin runs on and therefore refuses to proxy it. |
| 14:23.52 | ma3x | abrotman, you said you don't have mplayer, but how do you play .avi files? |
| 14:23.55 | blondie | rather than it just broke |
| 14:23.58 | dvs | blondie: Like installing Windows DOES void the warantee? ;-) |
| 14:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 471] by debhelper |
| 14:24.01 | abrotman | ma3x: totem/xine |
| 14:24.06 | blondie | ha |
| 14:24.08 | abrotman | blondie: update-pciids ! |
| 14:24.12 | eheil | Interesting. xorg 7 is in Experimental? I'd think taht ti would be in unstable before it would reach experimental. |
| 14:24.12 | ma3x | abrotman, xine can play divx? |
| 14:24.19 | blondie | I need to install etch first! |
| 14:24.19 | Thug-N-Me | asg so i should change the port for webmin ... ok |
| 14:24.21 | abrotman | ma3x: dunno about divx .. you said avi |
| 14:24.33 | abrotman | avi is some container thing as guerin keeps pointing out |
| 14:24.44 | asg | Thug-N-Me: I expect so. Look for Safe_Ports in the squid conf or just tell Firefox not to proxy that address. |
| 14:24.49 | *** join/#debian dimes (n=dimes@ip-85-160-174-34.eurotel.cz) |
| 14:24.52 | *** join/#debian Vdravi (n=esaraw@88.226.18.58) |
| 14:24.54 | *** join/#debian ViaD (n=Via--DDD@062016248025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 14:24.59 | abrotman | blondie: update-pciids! |
| 14:25.03 | libv | abrotman: i don't really need testing on this, just need to be able to build X and drivers. twm is good enough for a modesetter, at most i need xine or mplayer or something for Xv, but that just gets installed outside of dpkg too |
| 14:25.08 | blondie | I need to burn the etch netinst CD first! |
| 14:25.09 | ma3x | abrotman, container of what? video can be encoded in thousand ways and contained in one .avi, right? |
| 14:25.09 | dvs | abrotman: arson! |
| 14:25.19 | blondie | container of glue! |
| 14:25.21 | abrotman | libv: modular Xorg is in experimental ... |
| 14:25.32 | abrotman | dvs: gnomebaker ? |
| 14:25.46 | abrotman | ma3x: i wouldn't know what divx is .. |
| 14:25.54 | libv | abrotman: yeah, i know, but when you're working on xserver stuff that isn't always the most straightforward solution either |
| 14:25.57 | ma3x | abrotman, how come? it's so famous |
| 14:26.07 | abrotman | ma3x: i don't pirate movies |
| 14:26.09 | abrotman | ? |
| 14:26.24 | abrotman | libv: ah ok .. i guess that makes sense |
| 14:26.31 | blondie | abrotman: you weirdo :P |
| 14:26.40 | abrotman | blondie: update-pciids! |
| 14:26.42 | Thug-N-Me | asg so i should add itto squit config file right ? " acl Safe_ports port (webminport) " ? |
| 14:26.53 | ma3x | abrotman, me neither, just encode my private movie |
| 14:27.05 | abrotman | ma3x: then you should use a better format :) |
| 14:27.06 | asg | Thug-N-Me: yes |
| 14:27.16 | blondie | use xvid instead of divx |
| 14:27.18 | ma3x | abrotman, like what? |
| 14:27.22 | ma3x | blondie, why? |
| 14:27.29 | blondie | its better, and free :P |
| 14:27.32 | abrotman | ma3x: something free? |
| 14:27.37 | asg | abrotman: aren't you supposed to be going to work? |
| 14:27.47 | abrotman | ma3x: what is the ogg vorbis equiv for movies ? |
| 14:27.51 | Thug-N-Me | asg thank you |
| 14:27.55 | *** part/#debian dimes (n=dimes@ip-85-160-174-34.eurotel.cz) |
| 14:27.58 | asg | Thug-N-Me: you're welcome |
| 14:28.00 | abrotman | asg: it's whenever i get there .. i was there for 7 hours yesterday |
| 14:28.03 | blondie | abrotman: xvid |
| 14:28.06 | asg | abrotman: ah, quite |
| 14:28.19 | abrotman | blondie: no . like theora or something |
| 14:28.29 | blondie | er |
| 14:28.32 | blondie | xvid |
| 14:29.03 | *** join/#debian Thug-N-Me (n=speyer@host-84-9-15-252.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 14:29.33 | blondie | never heard of theora |
| 14:29.40 | abrotman | blondie: ma3x http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theora |
| 14:29.40 | ma3x | abrotman, the same thing happened with ogg. I had a few ogg encoded tracks, and copied them from one partition to another, and they got corrupted |
| 14:29.43 | nemontemi | there's ogg for videos, isn't? |
| 14:29.43 | ma3x | I really dont understand that |
| 14:29.50 | ma3x | nooooo |
| 14:29.52 | ma3x | you joking? |
| 14:29.53 | blondie | sigh |
| 14:29.56 | ma3x | ogg for videos? |
| 14:29.57 | ma3x | lol |
| 14:30.00 | blondie | hmm yes |
| 14:30.02 | blondie | there is |
| 14:30.02 | blondie | ogm |
| 14:30.06 | asg | ma3x: that comes in the Debian Plus Pack (TM) |
| 14:30.11 | blondie | stupid etch installer! |
| 14:30.12 | *** join/#debian streuner (n=streuner@p54A5FDC4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:30.14 | blondie | *STAB* |
| 14:30.15 | abrotman | ma3x: i just pasted you the URL |
| 14:30.24 | dvs | o_O |
| 14:30.41 | *** join/#debian Thug-N-Me (n=speyer@host-84-9-15-252.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 14:30.44 | nemontemi | I downloaded some, I think, ogg encoded videos from FISL 6.0 (FISL stands for Free Software International Forum, in portuguese) |
| 14:30.50 | blondie | I press Enter to start the install and the screen just goes black :| |
| 14:31.04 | abrotman | blondie: vga=771 |
| 14:31.05 | nemontemi | is this ogm? I don't know |
| 14:31.08 | dvs | blondie: You see. I voided the warantee! ;-) |
| 14:31.19 | abrotman | warranty |
| 14:31.31 | *** join/#debian dimes (n=dimes@ip-85-160-174-34.eurotel.cz) |
| 14:31.32 | dvs | war and tea? |
| 14:31.39 | Thug-N-Me | asg still doenst work .. what else i can try ? |
| 14:31.50 | abrotman | not using webmin :) |
| 14:31.52 | nemontemi | war and tea is for the british |
| 14:31.53 | nemontemi | ! |
| 14:32.04 | ma3x | hm, if I encode the videos with divx,xvid,or ogm, and then I want to watch them on some windows pc, should that pc have the codecs installed as well in order to view the video? |
| 14:32.08 | nemontemi | sorry the joke =/ |
| 14:32.09 | blondie | abrotman: thanks :D |
| 14:32.17 | abrotman | blondie: all better? |
| 14:32.22 | nemontemi | for sure ma3x |
| 14:32.25 | blondie | oh it has all sorts of gibberish languages to choose from |
| 14:32.27 | blondie | abrotman: yes |
| 14:32.45 | nemontemi | "video lan player" has almost all of them |
| 14:32.59 | *** join/#debian sixtymhz (n=sixtymhz@cpe-066-057-113-244.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 14:33.02 | ma3x | what if I give it to some friends who have only windows |
| 14:33.08 | ma3x | can they see it with the stupid wmp? |
| 14:33.12 | asg | Thug-N-Me: well, you can try whitelisting the webmin ip address in Firefox or checking squid's logs to see if there is an error. |
| 14:33.17 | abrotman | ma3x: they install the theora codec . it's free/open |
| 14:33.21 | blondie | ma3x: they can install vlc |
| 14:33.27 | ma3x | so they must install vlc |
| 14:33.32 | nemontemi | with wmp I don't think so |
| 14:33.32 | blondie | vlc ftw |
| 14:33.33 | *** join/#debian _iksaif (n=iksaif@ALyon-151-1-61-26.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:33.52 | *** join/#debian lunaphyte_ (n=lunaphyt@216.7.7.2) |
| 14:33.56 | *** join/#debian dimes (n=dimes@ip-85-160-174-34.eurotel.cz) |
| 14:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 477] by debhelper |
| 14:34.09 | ma3x | anyway, if I have say decent 700 MB xvid encoded video, how can I make a same quality DVD of 4,5 GB? possible, or not? |
| 14:34.17 | Thug-N-Me | asg where is that whitelisting ? |
| 14:34.19 | ma3x | I tried with nero on windows pc, but quality, it sucked |
| 14:34.48 | asg | Thug-N-Me: Edit -> Preferences -> Connection Settings |
| 14:34.56 | *** join/#debian ro0t (n=jan@86-39-81-193.customer.fulladsl.be) |
| 14:35.07 | *** part/#debian dbrock (n=user@c-5ab670d5.028-10-67766c2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 14:35.30 | *** join/#debian tziku (i=tziku@86.104.64.32) |
| 14:35.40 | tziku | hello, how can i change my domain on my machine ? |
| 14:35.47 | *** join/#debian ro0t (i=jan@86-39-81-193.customer.fulladsl.be) |
| 14:35.54 | dvs | tziku: change /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:36.17 | Thug-N-Me | asg well i am there and i i have selected " manual proxy configuration " and use the same proxy for all protocols " |
| 14:36.28 | tziku | not nameserver...i buy a .com domain and i want to set... |
| 14:36.56 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (n=lordlame@p548EE27C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:37.18 | dvs | tziku: Like /etc/hosts ? |
| 14:37.20 | asg | Thug-N-Me: put the ip of the webmin machine in the 'No proxy for ...' box |
| 14:37.37 | tziku | yes dvs :) thanks |
| 14:37.43 | dvs | tziku: yw |
| 14:38.24 | Thug-N-Me | asg localhost, 127.0.0.1 should do , isnt it ? |
| 14:38.42 | Thug-N-Me | asg is there already and it dosnt work .... |
| 14:39.05 | asg | Thug-N-Me: well, is webmin running? can you connect to it via telnet (i.e. telnet localhost <port>) |
| 14:39.54 | Thug-N-Me | asg hmm funny i just put the domain name and works :0 with localhost and 127.0.0.1 it didnt work |
| 14:40.15 | *** join/#debian u^lBe (n=QAdMk@85.101.45.187) |
| 14:40.27 | asg | Thug-N-Me: then webmin might not be configured to listen on localhost, only the bound external ip. |
| 14:40.35 | *** join/#debian spunz (n=spunz@h081217096096.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 14:40.51 | Thug-N-Me | prob |
| 14:40.59 | abrotman | asg: that'd be a great default :) |
| 14:41.10 | asg | abrotman: that should be the default |
| 14:41.44 | abrotman | which should be? only on localhost ? or only on eth0 ? |
| 14:41.56 | *** join/#debian monaco (n=monaco@200-221-102-164.speedy.speeduol.com.br) |
| 14:42.08 | *** join/#debian aslejrwe (n=asnmfwlh@cm61.sigma253.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 14:42.09 | *** join/#debian loggygreg (n=greg@ALille-251-1-38-164.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:42.17 | *** join/#debian ne0futur (n=neofutur@neofutur.net) |
| 14:42.20 | asg | abrotman: on localhost only. |
| 14:42.28 | *** join/#debian bircof (n=bircof@82.158.223.29) |
| 14:42.42 | abrotman | it should be .. but that would like ... be some semblance of secure .. and we know webmin doesn't do that |
| 14:42.46 | *** join/#debian Bombo (i=bombo@p50836954.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:42.52 | Bombo | hi |
| 14:43.09 | *** join/#debian tlocalhos (n=casper@87.126.48.8) |
| 14:43.15 | Bombo | anyone knows if tehre is a binary deb for the advanced midnight commander? |
| 14:43.24 | ne0futur | why webmin is not secure ? |
| 14:43.34 | asg | 'Advanced Midnight Commander' sounds like a sex toy |
| 14:43.36 | *** join/#debian Gavrila (n=Gavrila@213-140-16-182.fastres.net) |
| 14:43.48 | abrotman | ne0futur: are you serious? |
| 14:43.49 | ne0futur | I ue it on dedicated server, https only on a different port and never have pbs |
| 14:43.57 | Bombo | asg: heh |
| 14:44.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 485] by debhelper |
| 14:44.04 | ne0futur | webmin perl code is easy to read and understand, clean code |
| 14:44.17 | ne0futur | I rarely seen so good perl code |
| 14:44.27 | ne0futur | webmin ACLs seem securely coded for me |
| 14:44.27 | abrotman | oh .. right .. readable code makes it secure .. good rationale |
| 14:44.35 | ne0futur | yes I'm serious |
| 14:44.39 | asg | abrotman: makes no, though it does help |
| 14:44.46 | ne0futur | abrotman: un readable code is perfect for backdoor |
| 14:44.56 | abrotman | ne0futur: it doesn't make it secure |
| 14:44.58 | ne0futur | readable code helps auditing code |
| 14:45.02 | monaco | loopback alias (lo:0); I can do it manually, but how to automate it in /etc/networks/interfaces |
| 14:45.08 | *** join/#debian TerrapinM (n=Terrapin@c-69-243-117-46.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 14:45.17 | dvs | monaco: auto lo |
| 14:45.26 | ne0futur | abrotman: I just try to give precise reasons why I says I find it secure |
| 14:45.41 | ne0futur | I never seen precise reason why webmin would not be secure |
| 14:45.43 | abrotman | readable code does not make a program secure |
| 14:45.52 | ne0futur | sure its not enough |
| 14:45.58 | ne0futur | but an important part for me |
| 14:46.09 | abrotman | good for you |
| 14:46.11 | monaco | dvs: auto lo:0 is ok, puts my lo:0 up, but no IP is assigned... what am doing wrong? |
| 14:46.31 | dvs | monaco: Do you have "iface lo inet loopback" ? |
| 14:46.33 | *** join/#debian merhojt (n=Administ@h121n5c1o885.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 14:46.34 | asg | abrotman: clueful people can use webmin securely; it's the general assumption that people using webmin do so because they don't know how to configure things from the CLI and therefore probably don't know about all the other things you need to do to secure a box. |
| 14:46.40 | monaco | dvs yes, |
| 14:46.46 | ne0futur | https, ACL, readable code, frequent updates, few security problems |
| 14:46.56 | dvs | monaco: You're trying to set up a second one? |
| 14:46.59 | ne0futur | asg exactly |
| 14:47.00 | monaco | iface lo:0 inet static |
| 14:47.01 | monaco | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.01 | monaco | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.02 | abrotman | asg: that was automagically implied :) |
| 14:47.09 | ne0futur | I rarely use webmin and generally use ssh/vi |
| 14:47.09 | blondie | mew |
| 14:47.19 | dvs | monaco: No, that's an eth0 address |
| 14:47.22 | monaco | dvs: I neet to trick an MTA app |
| 14:47.26 | ne0futur | but webmin saved me when my sshd had a problem |
| 14:47.27 | abrotman | asg: they can use it all they want .. it's a pretty idiotic way to admin a box |
| 14:47.31 | asg | ne0futur: also, having it listen on localhost only and using ad-hoc ssh tunnels to connect to it remotely improves its security even more. |
| 14:47.40 | ne0futur | yes |
| 14:47.44 | Bombo | i'm not sure anymore about the name, i once had a mc clone that e.g. puts the whole filename into the box when renaming a file (F6) |
| 14:47.53 | dvs | monaco: Ok. I'm not sure how to do that. |
| 14:47.54 | ne0futur | https only on a different port than 10000 is important |
| 14:47.57 | Bombo | the normal mc doesn't do this |
| 14:47.59 | asg | abrotman: I agree, but I'm used to ssh me@foo vi /etc/bar |
| 14:48.05 | abrotman | hehe |
| 14:48.10 | Bombo | anyone knows what mc clone can do this? |
| 14:48.17 | blondie | I prefer vim to vi c.c |
| 14:48.21 | *** join/#debian orjan (n=orjan@c213-89-143-173.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 14:48.21 | *** join/#debian jcwong (n=catalyst@cm64.sigma135.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 14:48.30 | Bombo | under the name of "advanced midnight commander" i just find a clone for beos... |
| 14:48.32 | abrotman | blondie: get it installed yet? |
| 14:48.41 | blondie | abrotman: nope |
| 14:48.45 | abrotman | why not? |
| 14:48.52 | blondie | it's taking time |
| 14:48.59 | monaco | dev: ifconfig lo:0 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 works manually, it's the interfaces entry that does not work, why? |
| 14:49.14 | orjan | Does rdesktop support rdp5.2? |
| 14:49.16 | blondie | monaco: lo is 127.0.0.1 not that IP! |
| 14:49.18 | abrotman | can lo have an aliased interface ? |
| 14:49.24 | abrotman | orjan: try it . let us know |
| 14:49.33 | *** join/#debian anchor (i=anchor@ts2-a240.Sarov.dial.rol.ru) |
| 14:49.33 | blondie | orjan: what is rdp5.2 used by? |
| 14:49.41 | abrotman | win2k3 afaik |
| 14:49.48 | *** part/#debian TerrapinM (n=Terrapin@c-69-243-117-46.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 14:49.49 | orjan | abrotman: as only one windoze box to try on |
| 14:49.54 | asg | abrotman: win2k3 is supported then, I use it daily |
| 14:50.01 | blondie | well it works with win2k3 yes |
| 14:50.14 | monaco | blondie, sure, I have lo, now I want lo:1 (an alias) with a n IP, I can sucessfully create it by hand... why not through /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 14:50.17 | orjan | blondie: latest ver of rempte desltop on windoze |
| 14:50.18 | abrotman | asg: for basic RDP .. but win2k3 has extensions .. to share drives and crap that i don't think win2k had |
| 14:50.24 | blondie | monaco: what for... |
| 14:50.31 | *** join/#debian astars (i=astars@host124-203.pool870.interbusiness.it) |
| 14:50.37 | blondie | abrotman: yes, and that stuff doesn't work with rdesktop |
| 14:50.43 | asg | abrotman: I know the audio redirect works, I haven't been able to get the mapped drive thing to work though, at least with the debian package in sid |
| 14:50.48 | abrotman | blondie: i think that might be what orjan is asking |
| 14:50.55 | orjan | asg with sp1 on w2k3? |
| 14:51.00 | abrotman | asg: right .. i think that's what he's asking |
| 14:51.12 | blondie | well the OS would need to support it |
| 14:51.33 | abrotman | orjan: if all else fails ..you could try the msrdpcli in wine :) |
| 14:51.38 | monaco | blondie, actually I need a dummy interface to trick an app; I could create an eth0:0, but i sometimes have eth and sometimes eth-wifi; so I need an alias to an interface which is always available. Any idea? is there any dummynet.ko around? |
| 14:51.42 | asg | orjan: I can't remember if we are running sp1 on 2k3 at this time or not so I can't say. |
| 14:51.47 | *** join/#debian slocate (n=slocate@pool-162-84-143-186.ny5030.east.verizon.net) |
| 14:52.10 | *** join/#debian shingouz (n=doowop@62.183.160.26) |
| 14:52.17 | nemontemi | monaco: from where in Brazil? |
| 14:52.21 | dorel__ | exit |
| 14:52.24 | monaco | sao carlos |
| 14:52.36 | slocate | how safe/smart is ti to go from sid to etch? |
| 14:52.49 | orjan | asg: ok, rdp5.2 is from sp1, before it vwas 5.1 which works fine |
| 14:53.21 | asg | orjan: ah, okay. You might see if the upstream source code now supports it. If so, file a wishlist bug against the package. |
| 14:53.37 | orjan | asg ok |
| 14:54.40 | nemontemi | monaco: I watched your classes in 2004, "Elementos de Logica Digital 1" :) |
| 14:55.15 | *** join/#debian blaylock (n=sfv100@68-69-102-120.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 14:55.19 | tziku | hellom can somebody help me ? My apache2 dos't recognize index.htm i need to put: http://my.website/index.htm ...and...help ? |
| 14:55.25 | monaco | nemontemi: oops, small world, what's your name? |
| 14:55.36 | nemontemi | monaco: Kiyoshi |
| 14:55.36 | asg | tziku: use html, not htm |
| 14:55.50 | tziku | i use it...but no result... |
| 14:55.50 | monaco | nemontemi: cool! |
| 14:55.54 | blaylock | anyone here have a Dell Dimension 4700 with a successful debian install? |
| 14:56.13 | dvs | tziku: Find DirectoryIndex in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 14:56.16 | nemontemi | monaco: =) |
| 14:56.27 | abrotman | blaylock: you could tell us your problem |
| 14:56.45 | blaylock | abrotman, debian wont install on it |
| 14:56.59 | tziku | dvs: DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.cgi index.pl index.py index.php |
| 14:56.59 | blaylock | its a SATA environment with at P4 HT proc |
| 14:57.03 | slocate | has anybody gone from sid to etch? |
| 14:57.06 | *** part/#debian fbn (n=fbn@p549E321C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:57.15 | slocate | safely |
| 14:57.18 | libv | that's try #2 down the drain. debootstrap woody didn't even give me base-config. doing sarge again and then poking at sources.list right after debootstrap |
| 14:57.22 | dvs | ah the Intel 9xx chipset again |
| 14:57.24 | asg | tziku: where are you putting the file? apache2 defaults to a redirect to /var/www/apache2-<something or other> |
| 14:57.32 | *** join/#debian Benton (n=Benton@p5089452E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:57.58 | *** join/#debian concept10 (n=concept1@c-67-166-167-125.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 14:58.31 | tziku | asg : all my files are in: /var/www and if i put http://my.website/ dosn't work, and if i put http://my.website/index.html is working... |
| 14:58.41 | libv | abrotman: but i have a working debian on it, and then i'd have to spend a while kicking grub into shape again :p |
| 14:58.42 | tziku | and i want to work without put index.html |
| 14:58.43 | blaylock | abrotman, sometimes it fails with a bootstrap error, other times it fails at other random places |
| 14:59.03 | *** join/#debian roxy_ (n=nydia@71.249.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 14:59.04 | abrotman | blaylock: that's good and random :) |
| 14:59.05 | *** join/#debian Debby (i=bots@201.209.105.235) |
| 14:59.05 | Debby | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of corrideat) |
| 14:59.09 | abrotman | libv: erm .. ok |
| 14:59.12 | blaylock | abrotman, haha |
| 14:59.12 | asg | tziku: then look for the Rewrite rule that sends default requests to /var/www/apache2-default and comment it out. |
| 14:59.31 | libv | and i'd have to get a cdrom in that box too |
| 14:59.43 | asg | !rube goldberg install |
| 14:59.43 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 14:59.54 | slocate | i "safely" downgraded from sid back to etch, by making a /etc/apt/preferences file Pin: release a=testing |
| 14:59.54 | slocate | Pin-Priority: 1001 |
| 14:59.59 | *** join/#debian ChrisW (i=user@81.5.181.26) |
| 15:00.01 | libv | :) |
| 15:00.08 | abrotman | Debby: die |
| 15:00.13 | tziku | asg: no apache-2-default found in apache2.conf |
| 15:00.29 | asg | tziku: it's in /etc/apache2/sites-* |
| 15:00.30 | ChrisW | If I have a FAT32 formatted USB drive and I plug it into my debian box, how do I go about seeing it as a file system from debian? |
| 15:00.40 | slocate | was that smart?? |
| 15:00.42 | *** join/#debian jimb0 (n=none@cpe-071-065-221-093.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 15:01.12 | roxy_ | Is there a frienly gnome/kde application that could help me going through the step of setting up a printer serving linux client. CUPS is running on the server and it is working. CUPS is running on the client and I followed the step of Linux Cookbook, but can't manage to print from the client :( |
| 15:01.22 | *** part/#debian amaldo (n=amaldo@port-212-202-77-66.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 15:01.27 | libv | hrm, last time i tried this was in oktober. time flies |
| 15:02.13 | *** join/#debian seemawn (n=seemawn@p54A9B16B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:02.34 | roxy_ | dpkg: a punch card reader ? :-) |
| 15:02.38 | slocate | roxy_ a plain lp file won't do? |
| 15:02.59 | *** join/#debian vmhobbes (n=izuboorf@203.76.255.253) |
| 15:03.05 | roxy_ | slocate: what do you mean? |
| 15:03.31 | slocate | roxy_ have you tried printing from the cli? |
| 15:03.41 | blondie | can't you install debian from punch cards anymore? |
| 15:04.06 | Gnea | !laptop |
| 15:04.06 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org , and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 15:04.11 | *** join/#debian Pluk (n=Pluk@12-68-dsl.ipact.nl) |
| 15:04.31 | tziku | asg: i found /etc/apache2/site-enabled/000-default . what i need to do there ? |
| 15:04.32 | cahoot | roxy_: http://www.linuxprinting.org/till/printing-tutorial/tut.html |
| 15:05.48 | *** join/#debian nuMBER5 (n=A@104-84-112.adsl.terra.cl) |
| 15:05.55 | nuMBER5 | buenos dias que significa esto |
| 15:05.57 | libv | and the bloody git goes straight to testing again. |
| 15:05.58 | nuMBER5 | You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.8-2-686 kernel installed. |
| 15:05.58 | ChrisW | *cough* |
| 15:05.58 | nuMBER5 | make: *** [linux26] Error 1 |
| 15:06.08 | ChrisW | anyone got any ideas on the usb hard drive front? |
| 15:06.11 | abrotman | !es |
| 15:06.11 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:06.21 | *** join/#debian ValmikRoy (n=valmik@unaffiliated/valmik) |
| 15:06.27 | asg | tziku: just comment out the Rewrite that sends requests to /var/www/apache2-default iirc |
| 15:06.35 | abrotman | !tel ChrisW about vfatrw |
| 15:06.42 | abrotman | !tell ChrisW about vfatrw |
| 15:06.43 | roxy_ | slocate: it is what I want to do it first stop the job then when I try to restart it it gives me client-error-not possible. I set up loglevel to debug but can't find anything interesting. I alsa restarted the daemon. |
| 15:06.46 | *** join/#debian Seewai (n=zolomon@87.192.142.198) |
| 15:07.04 | cahoot | asg: that line seems to be commented out by default |
| 15:07.07 | slocate | whats the command to get all the dpkg factoids |
| 15:07.25 | ChrisW | abrotman: thanks... where can I find a how-to for the whole subject? I'm very n00b at all this :-S |
| 15:07.27 | abrotman | !your factoids |
| 15:07.27 | dpkg | My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. there is a searchable database of my factoids at http://dpkg.vireo.org/ |
| 15:07.36 | tziku | heh thx asg :))) |
| 15:07.38 | asg | cahoot: hmmm, It wasn't on my sarge installs. |
| 15:07.38 | tziku | thanks |
| 15:07.50 | abrotman | ChrisW: uhm .. not sure there is one . i mean .. you can read man mount and man fstab |
| 15:07.57 | slocate | abrotman i meant here at irc |
| 15:08.01 | cahoot | asg: might be me using etch then |
| 15:08.01 | libv | right, configure apt twice, once selecting your mirror, the second editing sources.list directly |
| 15:08.13 | ChrisW | how can I check if debian's even found the usb device now that I've plugged it in? |
| 15:08.14 | *** join/#debian degas (n=degas@200-232-148-106.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 15:08.16 | abrotman | slocate: /msg dpkg help |
| 15:08.23 | asg | cahoot: yeah, could be. |
| 15:08.23 | abrotman | chrisq: dmesg |
| 15:08.26 | slocate | abrotman thnks |
| 15:08.35 | abrotman | !tell ChrisW about usb storage |
| 15:08.46 | *** join/#debian robinl1 (n=robinl1@linth.xs4all.nl) |
| 15:10.07 | *** part/#debian dimes (n=dimes@ip-85-160-174-34.eurotel.cz) |
| 15:10.16 | abrotman | ChrisW: you use dmesg to see if it's been seen ? |
| 15:10.21 | ChrisW | abrotman: thanks! :-) |
| 15:10.23 | ChrisW | yup |
| 15:10.29 | ChrisW | stuff is in dmesg |
| 15:10.47 | ChrisW | WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured |
| 15:10.51 | ChrisW | what's that all about? |
| 15:10.54 | slocate | abrotman lets say i want to find out all dpkg knows abotu sid |
| 15:11.05 | asg | slocate: /msg dpkg listkeys sid ; /msg dpkg listvals sid |
| 15:11.14 | abrotman | slocate: /msg dpkg listkeys sid |
| 15:11.19 | slocate | ah!!!! |
| 15:12.07 | *** join/#debian mphill (n=mphill@CPE-70-92-245-5.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 15:12.12 | asg | abrotman: I keep forgetting that stew put up the searchable factoid site |
| 15:12.15 | nemontemi | monaco: I think if you put a script (sh) in /etc/network/if-up.d/ with what you type in hand. Then when ifup -a is called in /etc/init.d/networking should bring it up |
| 15:12.17 | *** join/#debian Disputin (n=sean@c-67-168-224-155.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 15:12.22 | *** join/#debian jsevakF (n=gbhootha@85.103.113.173) |
| 15:12.22 | *** join/#debian NphilippeM (n=uyminghe@85.100.14.152) |
| 15:12.27 | *** join/#debian anjen6e (n=ipratapo@85.100.14.152) |
| 15:12.27 | *** join/#debian {collinsx (n=boyd45Y@85.106.171.124) |
| 15:12.28 | *** join/#debian rmitchD (n=ebalasub@85.100.229.239) |
| 15:12.35 | *** join/#debian KRpatrick (n=_mmary@203.160.186.230) |
| 15:12.39 | *** join/#debian [billyU (n=pin-piny@81.198.61.42) |
| 15:12.49 | abrotman | yay bots! |
| 15:12.50 | *** join/#debian soumitra28o (n=uLeYr@AMarseille-251-1-97-9.w86-202.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:12.55 | *** join/#debian k|oBz (n=Ryxiao-g@85.104.166.122) |
| 15:12.57 | blondie | hmm |
| 15:13.00 | blondie | twonks |
| 15:13.03 | *** join/#debian FconnieY (n=crugkd@85.97.122.218) |
| 15:13.11 | abrotman | asg: your feeble brain sucks! |
| 15:13.11 | ChrisW | hurm, how canI find out what that warning message means? |
| 15:13.15 | mphill | i'm trying to get a few static IPs on a nic but having trouble finding the exact format to use, i googled but nothing relevant came up, and someone point me at an example please? |
| 15:13.15 | *** join/#debian cheow33] (n=marjoryv@85.108.22.1) |
| 15:13.22 | *** join/#debian cyi-bingl (n=de_anVP@adsl-112-139-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma) |
| 15:13.23 | Gnea | warning message? |
| 15:13.29 | blondie | ban people without DNS! |
| 15:13.34 | *** join/#debian qsongnian| (n=claude44@85.108.22.1) |
| 15:13.36 | *** join/#debian Ggrenee (n=BmeekieU@85.100.229.239) |
| 15:13.38 | asg | abrotman: yes, it does |
| 15:13.52 | SaLoMoN | lol blondie |
| 15:13.55 | *** join/#debian barbarabh (n=albertoa@81.89.15.33) |
| 15:13.59 | *** join/#debian keta (n=luca@pdpc/supporter/basic/keta) |
| 15:14.00 | *** join/#debian petezk (n=FTrosema@adsl-112-139-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma) |
| 15:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 496] by debhelper |
| 15:14.02 | SaLoMoN | many servers dont hat recursive dns |
| 15:14.06 | monaco | nemontemi: actually creating an alias to lo is a dirty ad hoc approach; I have just remembered that I can use the dummy network interface which is a cleaner and more elegant (and probably less toruble prone as well) way to do it. |
| 15:14.10 | asg | abrotman: heh, there are a lot that I don't remember creating. |
| 15:14.11 | SaLoMoN | and the detection often fails |
| 15:14.12 | blondie | you mean reverse |
| 15:14.14 | blondie | and they should |
| 15:14.16 | asg | !clouseaubat abrotman |
| 15:14.16 | dpkg | yells at abrotman "I know what the phone is!" |
| 15:14.22 | *** join/#debian Mcareyu (n=Wmurrayv@210.186.64.57) |
| 15:14.24 | ChrisW | Gnea: "WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured" in dmesg |
| 15:14.25 | SaLoMoN | yeah reverse |
| 15:14.28 | abrotman | !phillysmite asg |
| 15:14.44 | *** part/#debian mphill (n=mphill@CPE-70-92-245-5.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 15:15.10 | asg | !greycat on firewalls |
| 15:15.10 | dpkg | use OpenBSD *shrug* |
| 15:15.11 | *** join/#debian znx (i=irc@ip213040160104.adsl.supanet.net.uk) |
| 15:15.21 | ChrisW | !sing |
| 15:15.21 | dpkg | Everybody's got a water buffalo, yours is fast but mine is slow..... http://www.bpfh.net/stories/tcp-towers/water-buffalo.html |
| 15:15.23 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 15:15.23 | dpkg | <jetscreamer> should be doable though, even if it's not |
| 15:15.32 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 15:15.38 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 15:15.38 | dpkg | <Cyph_> i'm stoned, but the segfaults are real abrotman |
| 15:15.41 | *** join/#debian zzhaoqianZ (n=unoreenr@85.100.14.152) |
| 15:15.44 | ChrisW | hehe |
| 15:15.47 | asg | abrotman: classic |
| 15:16.02 | abrotman | we need more flw! |
| 15:16.11 | asg | abrotman: yeah |
| 15:16.12 | abrotman | !flw |
| 15:16.12 | dpkg | somebody said flw1 was <coachz> i don't need no stinking docs |
| 15:16.24 | Bombo | ftp://thot.banki.hu/esp-team/linux/mc-4.1.35-A10-1_i386.deb |
| 15:16.30 | monaco | nemotemi: I have to shootdown now to make suere everything is up and running after boot. See ya soon. |
| 15:16.30 | Bombo | i've found it ;) |
| 15:17.08 | Bombo | its from 2000, but there seems to be no newer version |
| 15:17.15 | Gnea | ChrisW: probably nothign to worry about |
| 15:17.21 | *** join/#debian WaFFeN (n=thiago@201008166231.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 15:17.24 | *** join/#debian Zrin (i=Zrin@chello062178201205.6.15.tuwien.teleweb.at) |
| 15:17.30 | asg | !info mc sarge |
| 15:17.42 | dpkg | mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre3-3sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 2104 kB, Installed size: 5259 kB |
| 15:17.51 | asg | Bombo: the version in sarge is newer than that |
| 15:17.56 | ChrisW | Gnea: yeah, ok, but how do I check? ;-) |
| 15:18.00 | *** join/#debian loca|host (n=loca|fre@196.203.32.233) |
| 15:18.04 | Zrin | what does greo0: unknown hardware address type 778 mean? shall I care? |
| 15:18.22 | Bombo | asg: its not advanced. ;) |
| 15:18.34 | nemontemi | monaco: ok. I don't know too much about networking. Just found a "manual option" in the debian's ifupdown system to configure interfaces. I was just reading about the dummy interface now... |
| 15:18.35 | Gnea | ChrisW: use the source, luke! :) |
| 15:18.54 | robinl1 | i recognise the name ChrisW.. |
| 15:18.55 | robinl1 | hmm.. |
| 15:19.01 | *** join/#debian arsonist (n=arsonist@wolne86.93.interecho.com) |
| 15:19.06 | *** join/#debian loggygreg_ (n=greg@ALille-251-1-15-198.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:19.06 | asg | Bombo: well, then try it. Hopefully it won't break your system. |
| 15:19.07 | Bombo | asg: this is the -Axx (advanced) fork by a'rpi/esp-team |
| 15:19.08 | robinl1 | ChrisW: do you recognise a "ReVeLaTioN" or "SyNTaX23"? |
| 15:19.25 | robinl1 | or a "[P]arado[X]" |
| 15:19.26 | Bombo | asg: by the guy who was once in the mplayer team also |
| 15:20.01 | asg | ciao a dopo == going to smoke a joint? |
| 15:20.02 | ChrisW | hi robinl1! how's it going? |
| 15:20.14 | ChrisW | Gnea: I'm usingthe googel right now, but I'm paranoid about that |
| 15:20.25 | ChrisW | specially as this is a disk I want to use for backups! |
| 15:20.32 | Gnea | ChrisW: smoke less crack then |
| 15:20.35 | *** join/#debian lamp_ (n=lamp@d51523730.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:20.47 | ChrisW | Gnea: :-P |
| 15:20.59 | robinl1 | ChrisW: all fine, why do i recognise you? |
| 15:21.16 | *** join/#debian Tim^^ (n=x@p5487E17E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:21.29 | Tim^^ | hi can anybody help me? |
| 15:21.29 | ChrisW | 'cos I was pointing out what a dufus you were being on #python a month or two back ;-) |
| 15:21.32 | Gnea | ChrisW: kernel source |
| 15:21.36 | ChrisW | anybody? |
| 15:21.45 | ChrisW | hmm, bot's not biting today... |
| 15:21.48 | asg | Tim^^: step 1) take your finger out of your ear |
| 15:21.55 | ChrisW | !tell Tim^^ anybody? |
| 15:22.05 | Tim^^ | why? |
| 15:22.12 | Tim^^ | ok my english is bad |
| 15:22.32 | asg | Tim^^: until we know what your problem is, we can't help you effectively; until that time, we can only guess. |
| 15:22.40 | *** join/#debian lamp_ (n=lamp@d51523730.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:22.42 | Tim^^ | how can i tell postfix that mails will send to /Maildir |
| 15:22.52 | asg | Tim^^: try #postfix first |
| 15:22.54 | abrotman | Tim^^: google "Postfix Maildir" |
| 15:23.10 | Tim^^ | ok |
| 15:23.17 | abrotman | it's in the FAQ for at www.postfix.org too |
| 15:23.26 | ChrisW | Gnea: waah, I'm not hardcore enough for that :-/ |
| 15:23.38 | asg | !bite ChrisW |
| 15:23.43 | Gnea | ChrisW: then you don't need to know |
| 15:23.48 | asg | ChrisW: it's biting, it's biting |
| 15:23.56 | Gnea | ChrisW: what kind of storage device is it anyway? |
| 15:23.57 | *** join/#debian blaylock (n=sfv100@68-69-102-120.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 15:24.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 487] by debhelper |
| 15:24.25 | Zrin | what does "gre0: unknown hardware address type 778" mean? shall I care? |
| 15:24.35 | asg | Zrin: type it into google |
| 15:25.15 | abrotman | !flw |
| 15:25.15 | dpkg | it has been said that flw17 is <abrotman> WiFiTux: i think we've covered more than once english isn't your frist langauge |
| 15:25.33 | asg | abrotman: that's more of a qotd than a flw though |
| 15:25.41 | ChrisW | Gnea: Iomega USB hard drive |
| 15:25.48 | abrotman | asg: dunno who made it .. probably me :) |
| 15:25.55 | Gnea | ChrisW: BS, it's just an enclosure |
| 15:25.56 | asg | !factinfo flw17 |
| 15:25.57 | dpkg | flw17 -- created by g4lt <galt@g4lt.base.supporter.pdpc> at Wed Sep 8 03:41:54 2004 (543 days); it has been requested 12 times, last by shingouz at Tue Jun 7 09:02:09 2005. |
| 15:26.00 | *** join/#debian |BrAnD|_ (n=brand@host236-236.pool80104.interbusiness.it) |
| 15:26.01 | asg | abrotman: John did |
| 15:26.08 | ChrisW | Gnea: whatever, that's wjhat it says on the tin |
| 15:26.11 | abrotman | asg: where'd he go! |
| 15:26.17 | *** join/#debian solemnwarning (n=solemnwa@cpc3-fare2-6-0-cust70.cos2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 15:26.25 | ChrisW | can send you the whole dmesg output if you like... there a pastebin round here? |
| 15:26.27 | asg | abrotman: he gave #d the finger when we were told to be nice iirc. |
| 15:26.34 | abrotman | asg: nah .. before that |
| 15:26.39 | abrotman | !seen g4lt |
| 15:26.39 | dpkg | g4lt <galt@g4lt.base.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 514d 14h 49m 56s ago, saying: 'toresbe actually no, policy states taht no package needs to depend on anything on base'. |
| 15:26.43 | Zrin | asg: I did and got a number of dumps of ifup output, but nothing on the message itself |
| 15:26.51 | Gnea | ChrisW: and it sucks some serious ASS. it's just an IDE drive inside there |
| 15:26.52 | abrotman | asg: that's way longer than "be nice" beginnings |
| 15:27.07 | ChrisW | Gnea: huh? don't understand... |
| 15:27.08 | Zrin | asg: can you give me any hint? |
| 15:27.14 | ChrisW | the drive works fine under windows |
| 15:27.23 | ChrisW | but I'm trying to move from a windows dev server to a debian one... |
| 15:28.01 | roxy_ | Do I need to rebuild kernel to add snd module to it? or is there an easier way? |
| 15:28.03 | *** join/#debian dreamil|lab (n=swapnil@59.184.0.22) |
| 15:28.06 | dreamil|lab | hi people |
| 15:28.07 | asg | Zrin: I wouldn't worry if things are working fine. ##kernelnewbies might also know. |
| 15:28.13 | asg | abrotman: true |
| 15:28.16 | ChrisW | aptitude install snd? |
| 15:28.30 | *** join/#debian loggygreg (n=greg@ALille-251-1-58-12.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:28.32 | dreamil|lab | i want to know if it is possible to install sarge on a IBM Xeon server? |
| 15:28.36 | solemnwarning | are there any guides to getting a wifi card to work under debian with WEP? |
| 15:28.40 | dreamil|lab | where can I get info about this |
| 15:28.43 | asg | dreamil|lab: it depends, which server? |
| 15:28.53 | Gnea | dreamil|lab: on the internet |
| 15:28.55 | solemnwarning | i set the key in interfaces.conf, but no good |
| 15:28.57 | dreamil|lab | asg, unfortunately i dont know much about iy |
| 15:28.58 | asg | dreamil|lab: a good way is to type 'ibm <server type> debian' in google |
| 15:29.09 | roxy_ | ChrisW: you just saved me 2 hours :-) |
| 15:29.23 | asg | solemnwarning: install wireless-tools, read wireless(7) |
| 15:30.28 | *** join/#debian keta (n=luca@pdpc/supporter/basic/keta) |
| 15:30.50 | *** join/#debian Andy298 (n=none@cpc2-grim4-5-0-cust113.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 15:30.58 | *** join/#debian arsonist (n=arsonist@wolne86.93.interecho.com) |
| 15:31.10 | Andy298 | i want all root mail forwarded on to my own address, should i alter aliases to have... |
| 15:31.12 | concept10 | dreamil|lab, im sure ibm has documentation on that somewhere |
| 15:31.14 | Andy298 | root: me@domain.com |
| 15:31.23 | asg | abrotman: yes |
| 15:31.25 | asg | bah |
| 15:31.26 | asg | Andy298: yes |
| 15:31.27 | Gnea | Andy298: yes |
| 15:31.34 | dreamil|lab | concept10, thanx for the info :) |
| 15:31.40 | Andy298 | anyway to test it? |
| 15:31.46 | asg | Andy298: which mta are you using? |
| 15:31.52 | Andy298 | postfix? |
| 15:31.57 | dreamil|lab | concept10, i just wanted to know if anybody has tried sarge on xeon |
| 15:32.00 | asg | Andy298: send mail to root, see where it ends up |
| 15:32.21 | Andy298 | asg: how can i send mail to root? |
| 15:32.29 | asg | Andy298: echo foo | mail root |
| 15:32.54 | Andy298 | asg: was hoping to get error alerts from apache etc |
| 15:32.54 | *** join/#debian maxwell (n=maxwell@mur31-1-82-237-205-162.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:32.54 | *** join/#debian raz0 (n=morten@0x50a1608b.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 15:32.56 | asg | dreamil|lab: yes, I run sarge on many Xeon machines |
| 15:32.58 | libv | right, seems settled |
| 15:32.59 | libv | thanks all |
| 15:33.02 | *** part/#debian libv (n=libv@81.245.160.34) |
| 15:33.17 | concept10 | dreamil|lab, I think debian supports more platforms (architechtures) than any other distro, so someone has probably done it. Just have to find 'em :) |
| 15:33.19 | *** part/#debian maxwell (n=maxwell@mur31-1-82-237-205-162.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:33.28 | abrotman | asg: yes ? |
| 15:33.32 | abrotman | oh .. nm |
| 15:33.38 | asg | abrotman: yep |
| 15:33.50 | dreamil|lab | concept10, i thought irc is good place to find them :) |
| 15:33.58 | dreamil|lab | asg, cool |
| 15:34.04 | Andy298 | asg: sent mail to root (that command) but it isn't in root and it hasn't been forwarded to my address |
| 15:34.06 | dreamil|lab | asg, any specific issue? |
| 15:34.07 | *** join/#debian e-funktion (n=seemawn@p54A9B16B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:34.17 | asg | Andy298: then check the mailer logs to see what happened |
| 15:34.25 | asg | dreamil|lab: I've never run into any. |
| 15:34.28 | *** join/#debian netfiend (n=req@87.126.70.163) |
| 15:34.38 | close_to_debian | how do i find if my disk is running out of inodes? |
| 15:34.45 | asg | close_to_debian: df -i |
| 15:34.51 | *** join/#debian subir (n=subir@210-172-29-116.cust.bit-drive.ne.jp) |
| 15:34.57 | abrotman | close_to_debian: man df |
| 15:35.09 | dreamil|lab | asg, and i have to use which platform dvd? |
| 15:35.15 | asg | dreamil|lab: x86 |
| 15:35.21 | *** join/#debian mandolin (n=mandolin@kwllb02.studbost.vxu.se) |
| 15:35.43 | dreamil|lab | asg, ok great |
| 15:35.43 | close_to_debian | abrotman: /dev/sda3 1281696 1918 1279778 1% /var |
| 15:35.43 | *** part/#debian mandolin (n=mandolin@kwllb02.studbost.vxu.se) |
| 15:35.44 | close_to_debian | inodes are full right |
| 15:35.58 | abrotman | man df |
| 15:36.04 | close_to_debian | ok |
| 15:36.05 | asg | close_to_debian: no, you are only using 1918 (1% of available) |
| 15:36.21 | close_to_debian | ok |
| 15:36.33 | close_to_debian | opening a file with vi shows swap error |
| 15:36.44 | asg | close_to_debian: paste the error |
| 15:36.48 | Andy298 | its trying to put mail in root@server.domain.com |
| 15:37.03 | Andy298 | just need all system mail to goto me@hotmail.com or whatever |
| 15:37.09 | cahoot | Andy298: did you run newaliases? |
| 15:37.12 | asg | Andy298: did you run newaliases? |
| 15:37.17 | Andy298 | no? |
| 15:37.19 | asg | Andy298: do so |
| 15:37.27 | close_to_debian | it shows swap error |
| 15:37.29 | Andy298 | what is it? |
| 15:37.36 | asg | close_to_debian: paste the error, not your interpretation of it |
| 15:37.44 | cahoot | Andy298: updates the aliases |
| 15:37.47 | *** join/#debian bessel (n=bessel@sar3.uchicago.edu) |
| 15:37.48 | asg | Andy298: it recreates the db for aliases so postfix can use it |
| 15:37.59 | asg | Andy298: man newaliases |
| 15:38.00 | Andy298 | ah right ok |
| 15:39.02 | close_to_debian | asg: cannot write (file system full?) |
| 15:39.08 | close_to_debian | thats the error |
| 15:39.17 | close_to_debian | when trying to save |
| 15:39.22 | Andy298 | now i get unknown user. im forwarding it to a external mail address |
| 15:39.26 | asg | close_to_debian: then run df and df -i and see if any of your filesystems are full |
| 15:39.50 | close_to_debian | no none of them |
| 15:40.01 | slocate | is it safe to go from sid back to etch? |
| 15:40.17 | asg | slocate: generally no, but it is possible if you know what you are doing |
| 15:40.21 | close_to_debian | any ideas |
| 15:40.23 | abrotman | the easiest is to change your soucres etch and wait |
| 15:40.36 | concept10 | does NFS expose my directories to the outside world? |
| 15:40.43 | abrotman | close_to_debian: paste your df and df -i somewhere |
| 15:40.43 | asg | close_to_debian: can you 'touch foo' on any of your mounted filesystems without error? |
| 15:40.44 | abrotman | !paste |
| 15:40.44 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 15:41.13 | slocate | asg i "safely" downgraded from sid back to etch, by making a /etc/apt/preferences file Pin: release a=testing and Pin-Priority: 1001 |
| 15:41.30 | asg | slocate: then why are you asking since you have already done it |
| 15:41.35 | slocate | asg lol |
| 15:41.37 | close_to_debian | asg: yes |
| 15:41.53 | asg | close_to_debian: are you using something like 'sudo vi /path/to/file' ? |
| 15:42.09 | slocate | asg that's the only way you would have suggested? |
| 15:42.19 | asg | slocate: no, I would have suggested re-installing. |
| 15:42.30 | close_to_debian | http://godsownland.com/cgi-bin/plpastebin.cgi?id=50de6a |
| 15:42.32 | slocate | woow |
| 15:42.50 | close_to_debian | asg: vi <qldumpname> |
| 15:43.03 | close_to_debian | *ql |
| 15:43.12 | close_to_debian | sql |
| 15:43.23 | asg | close_to_debian: you actually typed 'vi <sqldumpname>' ? |
| 15:43.28 | slocate | asg what should I look for to know that everythng is as it should? |
| 15:43.30 | close_to_debian | no |
| 15:43.34 | close_to_debian | vi filename |
| 15:43.35 | *** join/#debian nuxil (n=octan@213.161.182.225) |
| 15:43.35 | *** join/#debian solemnwarning-lt (n=solemnwa@cpc3-fare2-6-0-cust70.cos2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 15:43.38 | nuxil | hello people |
| 15:43.43 | solemnwarning-lt | hi all |
| 15:43.46 | Andy298 | now i get unknown user. im forwarding it to a external mail address |
| 15:43.57 | solemnwarning-lt | can anyone help me with some touchpad issues? |
| 15:43.57 | asg | close_to_debian: okay. what does 'lsattr /path/to/filename' print |
| 15:44.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 481] by debhelper |
| 15:44.01 | slocate | hello friedly people |
| 15:44.02 | *** join/#debian hightowe1 (n=nnnnnnnn@dslb-084-060-250-205.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:44.12 | slocate | friendly* |
| 15:44.22 | asg | slocate: look for breakage. Don't report it to the bts since downgrading is not supported by Debian. |
| 15:44.23 | novem | can anyone help me, im trying to set up name based virtual hosting on apache, ive managed to get it set up with (what i think is correct) and used fqdn in servername directive, but domain names are being mapped to the wrong index.htm |
| 15:44.24 | nuMBER5 | estoy compilando uncodigo fuentes |
| 15:44.24 | *** join/#debian martin0 (i=martin@p5083DB85.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:44.27 | roxy_ | ChrisW: I did aptitude install snd, it complainn that libxklavier wasn't there , so did apt-get install libxklavier and now it is removing half of my system :-( |
| 15:44.28 | asg | !es |
| 15:44.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:44.30 | *** part/#debian hightowe1 (n=nnnnnnnn@dslb-084-060-250-205.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:44.47 | slocate | asg well so far nothing is broken |
| 15:44.50 | Andy298 | asg: now i get unknown user. im forwarding it to a external mail address - need it to forward the mail on! |
| 15:44.52 | asg | slocate: okay |
| 15:45.11 | slocate | only that apt-listchanges did stop emailing me |
| 15:45.14 | close_to_debian | any ideas |
| 15:45.17 | asg | Andy298: I've never used postfix so you might be better off asking in #postfix. Or harass cahoot since he seems to know :) |
| 15:45.18 | nuxil | i have a small issue.. i had to remove apache 1.3.33. i also removed /etc/apace .now i tryed to reinstall it.. i get this error message that /etc/apache does not exsists.. anyidead? isnt the pgk suppose to make the dir and the files in /etc? |
| 15:45.19 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nicolas@dhcp42-177.asta.uni-saarland.de) |
| 15:45.32 | slocate | but that I think is due to a old db |
| 15:45.33 | *** join/#debian davi_ (i=davi@215.Red-80-25-136.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:45.33 | asg | close_to_debian: did you paste the output of 'lsattr /path/to/file' yet? |
| 15:45.46 | abrotman | !tell nuxil about confmiss |
| 15:45.54 | SerajewelKS | nuxil: did you purge apache or remove it? |
| 15:46.01 | Andy298 | cahoot: any idea about this alias, it's says the user is unknown but i know the user can login etc (using ISP config) to creat accounts etc |
| 15:46.05 | solemnwarning-lt | i have a synaptics touchpad on PS/2, about 70% of the time clicks from the pad are ignored, and when it does detect clicks it clicks 3 or 4 times a lot |
| 15:46.12 | close_to_debian | asg: i just created this file it does not have any attribute set |
| 15:46.26 | close_to_debian | ------------- got_forums.sql |
| 15:46.31 | SerajewelKS | nuxil: er, obviously you did not purge. next time purge. /etc/apache will be removed for you. |
| 15:46.42 | asg | close_to_debian: then use 'strace -o trace vi file' and look for odd things in 'trace' |
| 15:46.43 | *** join/#debian dave-az (i=dsanders@ip70-162-129-35.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 15:46.45 | *** join/#debian chaica (n=chaica@cho94-1-81-57-156-21.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:46.47 | chaica | hi |
| 15:47.01 | asg | close_to_debian: if that also fails, reboot to single user mode and run fsck on all your filesystems. |
| 15:47.06 | nuxil | thxz guys.. im new to the apt tool :) |
| 15:47.07 | chaica | I'd like to knoz how to read chinese caracters on my debian |
| 15:47.08 | chaica | thx |
| 15:47.24 | solemnwarning-lt | anyone? |
| 15:47.31 | Gnea | !chinese |
| 15:47.31 | dpkg | [chinese] Find Chinese on Debian at http://www.debian.org/intl/zh/, or try the channel #Chinese, or /j #debian-zh |
| 15:47.50 | close_to_debian | E297: Write error in swap file |
| 15:48.02 | asg | solemnwarning-lt: check you don't have two mouse or input stanzas in your X config. Sometimes, if you have two, they will conflict. |
| 15:48.28 | nuxil | SerajewelKS purge`?? |
| 15:48.31 | close_to_debian | any idea |
| 15:48.34 | solemnwarning-lt | asg, what do i look for? |
| 15:48.41 | Gnea | !anyone |
| 15:48.41 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 15:48.41 | SerajewelKS | !tell nuxil about purge |
| 15:48.57 | nuxil | ahh |
| 15:49.01 | nuxil | thxz |
| 15:49.02 | nuxil | again |
| 15:49.24 | asg | close_to_debian: can you edit other files? |
| 15:49.29 | *** join/#debian znx (n=znx@ip213040160104.adsl.supanet.net.uk) |
| 15:49.38 | *** join/#debian datr1x (n=datr1x@cpc1-bolt6-4-0-cust178.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 15:50.06 | Gnea | !smite SerajewelKS |
| 15:50.25 | nuxil | O.o |
| 15:50.34 | SerajewelKS | someone look at http://bugs.debian.org/347697 and tell me i'm not an idiot, because i swear that's a gcc bug even though the maintainer doesn't think so. |
| 15:50.39 | *** join/#debian cjaymes_ (n=cjaymes@4.23.226.250) |
| 15:51.05 | *** join/#debian lamp_ (n=lamp@d51523730.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:51.07 | *** join/#debian iain (n=iain@ip-65.net-82-216-251.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 15:51.16 | *** join/#debian _keroppi_ (n=neil@HSE-Ottawa-ppp234893.sympatico.ca) |
| 15:51.43 | *** join/#debian xiaogil_ (n=yanimax_@lab75-3-82-235-26-179.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:51.59 | *** join/#debian lamp_ (n=lamp@d51523730.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:52.08 | asg | SerajewelKS: that's like trying to stop a truck with saran wrap. |
| 15:52.13 | *** join/#debian m00s3s (n=m00s3s@cs181196022.pp.htv.fi) |
| 15:52.20 | Gnea | asg: wrap it around the drivers head |
| 15:52.30 | solemnwarning-lt | asg, what do i look for? |
| 15:52.32 | SerajewelKS | asg: it seems to work quite well, thank you very much |
| 15:52.37 | asg | SerajewelKS: ;) |
| 15:53.06 | asg | solemnwarning-lt: well, try commenting out the other mouse block to try to isolate the issue perhaps. |
| 15:53.07 | SerajewelKS | asg: it's some fucking strong saran wrap |
| 15:53.22 | asg | SerajewelKS: they should make condoms out of it then |
| 15:53.44 | SerajewelKS | asg: something tells me that an adaptive spam filter wouldn't feel all that great. for either person. |
| 15:53.52 | solemnwarning-lt | asg, there is only 1 mouse section |
| 15:53.58 | asg | SerajewelKS: ribbed for your pleasure |
| 15:54.10 | *** join/#debian Gyuszk|nem (n=Gyuriszk@cm-222-135.kabelnet.hu) |
| 15:54.16 | blondie | hmm ribbed |
| 15:54.18 | Gnea | just get yer tubes tied |
| 15:54.27 | asg | solemnwarning-lt: well, are you using the synaptics driver or just the standard X mouse driver? |
| 15:54.45 | solemnwarning-lt | dunno |
| 15:55.00 | Gyuszk|nem | Can someone help me? I'm having difficulties with the mouse (usb). When I click with it, sometimes I get double click, whats the matter? (sorry for my english) |
| 15:55.05 | asg | solemnwarning-lt: grep synaptics /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or XF86Config-4) |
| 15:55.21 | solemnwarning-lt | asg, nothing found |
| 15:55.58 | asg | solemnwarning-lt: then its probably the default mouse driver. Try replacing 'Driver "mouse"' with 'Driver "synaptics"' and see if that helps. |
| 15:55.59 | Andy298 | cahoot: any idea about this alias, it's says the user is unknown but i know the user can login etc (using ISP config) to creat accounts etc |
| 15:56.05 | solemnwarning-lt | ok |
| 15:56.06 | *** join/#debian Eulex (n=alex@h31n1fls33o998.telia.com) |
| 15:56.41 | asg | solemnwarning-lt: there may be more info (/msg dpkg synaptics) |
| 15:56.44 | *** join/#debian pbrunier (n=pbrunier@gnu/webmaster/pbrunier) |
| 15:56.53 | asg | solemnwarning-lt: also, /msg dpkg touchpad |
| 15:57.26 | *** join/#debian davor (n=davor@81-236-18-154-no39.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 15:58.02 | roxy_ | I got: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failded for default: No such device |
| 15:58.40 | mejo | what actions are useful to put a system (especially RAM) under heavy load? starting openoffice, compiling kernel, or are there better ways? |
| 15:59.00 | blondie | run setiathome? |
| 15:59.01 | davor | how do i set my init mode at boot? i don't want debian to start X.org automatically. |
| 15:59.10 | *** join/#debian slackit (n=slackit@0x3e42d033.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 15:59.32 | abrotman | !tell davor about nodm |
| 15:59.33 | roxy_ | davor: change default runlevel |
| 15:59.37 | SerajewelKS | mejo: perl -e '@foo = (1..(10**10)); fork for (1..(10**10)); sleep 60' |
| 15:59.40 | blondie | er |
| 15:59.45 | blondie | roxy_: wrong! :p |
| 15:59.47 | davor | okay, thanks |
| 15:59.49 | *** join/#debian knoppers (n=debian31@dslb-084-057-201-112.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:59.50 | *** join/#debian znx (i=irc@ip213040160104.adsl.supanet.net.uk) |
| 15:59.53 | blondie | there's some factoid about that |
| 16:00.09 | SerajewelKS | mejo: if your system crashes it's not my fault |
| 16:00.27 | mejo | SerajewelKS: is it likely that this happens? |
| 16:00.40 | *** join/#debian phatfish (i=PHAT@cpc2-hem15-0-0-cust936.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
| 16:00.45 | SerajewelKS | mejo: well, you eat up all the RAM and then everything requires active swapping |
| 16:01.13 | SerajewelKS | mejo: if you can get make in an infinite recursive loop the same will happen, as i found out when trying to compile nvmixer |
| 16:01.24 | mejo | SerajewelKS: sounds great, as i try to reproduce a bugreport where encrypted swap causes the system to crash. |
| 16:02.09 | SerajewelKS | mejo: hmm, 10^10 is too large for perl |
| 16:02.40 | mejo | SerajewelKS: but if the system crashes anyway, the perl script may be bad, as i need something that puts the system (especially swap) under heavy load without crashing it usually. |
| 16:02.49 | *** join/#debian zerodni (n=zerodni@c-68-47-173-49.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 16:03.08 | SerajewelKS | mejo: perl -e '@foo = (); push(@foo, "x"x1000) for (1..10**5); fork for (1..10**5); sleep 60' |
| 16:03.14 | *** join/#debian bwlang (n=bwlang@c-68-40-252-128.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:03.34 | *** join/#debian geemark (n=geemark@port12.ds1-vey.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 16:03.40 | *** join/#debian gammelmark (n=geemark@port12.ds1-vey.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 16:04.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 489] by debhelper |
| 16:04.56 | *** join/#debian Huwie (i=huw@cpc2-nthc6-0-0-cust673.nrth.cable.ntl.com) |
| 16:05.10 | SerajewelKS | mejo: the system should respond again in about a minute if it does go under from swapping |
| 16:06.09 | mejo | SerajewelKS: thanks, i'll try that one |
| 16:06.13 | SerajewelKS | wow it got quiet, i hope everybody didn't run that command... |
| 16:06.31 | asg | SerajewelKS: nah, just getting another beer |
| 16:06.43 | *** part/#debian dreamil|lab (n=swapnil@59.184.0.22) |
| 16:07.34 | Thug-N-Me | anyone installed phpbb2 in debian ? |
| 16:07.35 | Gyuszk|nem | <Gyuszk|nem> Can someone help me? I'm having difficulties with the mouse (usb). When I click with it, sometimes I get double click, whats the matter? (sorry for my english) |
| 16:07.42 | *** join/#debian angrymike (n=michael@81-233-226-191-no38.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 16:07.48 | SerajewelKS | !tell Thug-N-Me about poll |
| 16:08.19 | Thug-N-Me | ok :)) |
| 16:08.31 | Thug-N-Me | how will i enable phpbb2 in my apache server ? |
| 16:08.33 | asg | Gyuszk|nem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=171306 |
| 16:08.49 | SerajewelKS | Thug-N-Me: install it |
| 16:08.51 | *** join/#debian vin` (i=nach@unaffiliated/takatumi) |
| 16:08.52 | Thug-N-Me | phpbb2 is installed in /usr/share/phpbb2 |
| 16:08.56 | Thug-N-Me | i did :)) |
| 16:08.59 | Gyuszk|nem | thans asg |
| 16:09.01 | SerajewelKS | Thug-N-Me: symlink it somewhere |
| 16:09.10 | *** join/#debian datrIx (n=datr1x@cpc1-bolt6-4-0-cust178.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 16:09.20 | Thug-N-Me | SerajewelKS somewhere might be not the right location |
| 16:09.21 | SerajewelKS | Thug-N-Me: or install it from the source tarball, which is probably smarter than using the debian package for most purposes |
| 16:09.38 | SerajewelKS | Thug-N-Me: you know where your webroot is. put a symlink to /usr/share/phpbb2 there |
| 16:09.43 | *** join/#debian bernardo (n=bernardo@200.150.175.133) |
| 16:09.49 | asg | or pick a better bb system since phpbb is full of holes |
| 16:10.05 | Thug-N-Me | asg like ? |
| 16:10.23 | bernardo | What is the "right" way to turn off a system while im using x? |
| 16:10.29 | Thug-N-Me | SerajewelKS ahh actually i can also add alias into my http confg right ? |
| 16:10.39 | SerajewelKS | Thug-N-Me: that would be another way, sure |
| 16:10.50 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: which desktop manager |
| 16:10.51 | asg | bernardo: xterm -e halt |
| 16:11.01 | bernardo | gnome |
| 16:11.01 | SerajewelKS | !beat asg |
| 16:11.01 | asg | bernardo: or sudo halt |
| 16:11.15 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: so click the foot, hit log off, and choose power down |
| 16:11.38 | asg | SerajewelKS: it's a lot quicker than fiddling with buttons ;) |
| 16:12.01 | bernardo | but when i login again all my config preferences are gone! |
| 16:12.01 | *** join/#debian MoRLoCh (n=emi@A-53-215.cust.iol.ie) |
| 16:12.08 | SerajewelKS | asg: but it can cause the init messages to show up on VT7, while VT1 is active |
| 16:12.11 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 16:12.11 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 16:12.19 | bernardo | SerajewelsKS: i think i dont have the foot icon here... |
| 16:12.29 | *** join/#debian _MiTo_ (n=MiTo@dh84-66.xnet.hr) |
| 16:12.33 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: the "gnome menu" then. or whatever the hell they named it. |
| 16:12.46 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: find the logout button/menu-item and click it |
| 16:12.55 | SerajewelKS | asg: and other, bad things |
| 16:13.10 | bernardo | SerajewelsKS: oh i see....thanx a lot |
| 16:13.18 | bernardo | SerajewelsKS: i got it |
| 16:13.26 | asg | SerajewelKS: yeah, if gnome is involved, probably. Never had an issue with lighter wms in the many years I've used that technique. |
| 16:13.28 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: it's "SerajewelKS" |
| 16:13.54 | Gnea | heh |
| 16:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 483] by debhelper |
| 16:14.12 | SerajewelKS | asg: the less rude you are to your WM/DE (by not killing it) the less rude it will be to you (by remembering settings) |
| 16:14.13 | bernardo | SerajewelKS: ok... =) |
| 16:14.23 | Thug-N-Me | asg what would be the best choise for a bb system ? |
| 16:14.30 | vin` | asg: ionman! |
| 16:14.32 | SerajewelKS | !best |
| 16:14.32 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 16:14.39 | nuMBER5 | is error http://debian-es.pastebin.com/585195 |
| 16:14.49 | asg | SerajewelKS: of course. Still though, halt will give it a graceful halt signal before going for the jugular. |
| 16:14.57 | *** join/#debian fausto (n=user@host253-135.pool8251.interbusiness.it) |
| 16:14.57 | asg | vin`: takatumi! |
| 16:15.18 | SerajewelKS | asg: but it will probably kill X first, which will cause any connected apps (WM/DE included) to die and possibly not shut down cleanly. |
| 16:15.19 | asg | Thug-N-Me: Try them all, use the one that works best for you. |
| 16:15.34 | asg | SerajewelKS: yeah, you have a point. |
| 16:15.37 | Thug-N-Me | asg give me some names :)) |
| 16:15.49 | wireddd | can you resize ext3 partitions |
| 16:15.57 | SerajewelKS | asg: 'halt' is about as clean to X apps as CTRL+ALT+BKSP |
| 16:16.02 | Eulex | wireddd, yes, use ext2resize |
| 16:16.15 | SerajewelKS | wireddd: or gparted if you like GUIs |
| 16:16.18 | asg | Thug-N-Me: apt-cache search web forum |
| 16:16.41 | wireddd | the partition I need to resize is my root partition |
| 16:16.50 | SerajewelKS | wireddd: boot from a livecd |
| 16:17.00 | wireddd | yeah thats what I was thinking |
| 16:17.06 | *** join/#debian tearfate (i=WinXP@60.52.23.146) |
| 16:17.08 | asg | SerajewelKS: *nod* |
| 16:17.09 | SerajewelKS | wireddd: preferably one with gparted |
| 16:17.45 | *** join/#debian loggygreg_ (n=greg@ALille-251-1-105-116.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:17.57 | SerajewelKS | gparted is magically delicious |
| 16:18.05 | juice` | any idea why KDE on debian testing, has background in BLACK, no matter what i set up in Desktop-> Background as image ? |
| 16:18.06 | *** join/#debian bernardo (n=bernardo@200.150.175.133) |
| 16:18.08 | nuMBER5 | http://debian-es.pastebin.com/585195 help |
| 16:18.19 | asg | juice`: #debian-kde might know if nobody in here does |
| 16:18.27 | SerajewelKS | juice`: works fine over here |
| 16:18.28 | bernardo | Do you guys know any IDE for C#?? |
| 16:18.35 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: monodevelop |
| 16:18.54 | bernardo | SejajewelKS: is it good? |
| 16:18.56 | *** join/#debian Stork (n=alex@storkey.plus.com) |
| 16:19.05 | juice` | when i start KDE, it first load startup screen, then this image i want, and after few seconds, kdesktop starts taking 90% CPU for 10 seconds, and then my background goes black |
| 16:19.14 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: it's "SerajewelKS". use tab completion. |
| 16:19.15 | juice` | not important if i set it to some color or image |
| 16:19.19 | *** join/#debian lamp_ (n=lamp@d51523730.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:19.21 | streuner | nuMBER5: isn't asterisk not in debian? |
| 16:19.28 | asg | SerajewelKS: you'll never win :) |
| 16:19.38 | bernardo | SerajewelKS:ok...sorry! is it good? |
| 16:19.39 | SerajewelKS | asg: i have to at least try |
| 16:19.54 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: they wnat your jewels |
| 16:19.58 | asg | SerajewelKS: they often get my nick wrong and it's only three letters, that require one hand on home row! |
| 16:20.21 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: it's ok. there's no graphical Gtk# window designer yet, and some editor features are lacking, e.g. no popup help for constructors. |
| 16:20.25 | Stork | hi, i'm having some problems with the netinstall - it installs fine, then i take ou the cd, and it boots up. it freezes on the line: "hisaz_fcpipnp: Found adaptor Fritz!Card PCI at 00:10.0" |
| 16:20.25 | streuner | nuMBER5: if you using ubuntu, try #ubuntu |
| 16:20.31 | novem | can anyone tell me why, (assuming all apache vhost files are set up properly), that all domains might go to one apache vhost? |
| 16:20.52 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: i'm saving my jewels for my wife. ... they were expensive! |
| 16:21.03 | *** join/#debian scytheman_ (i=scythema@p54B62597.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:21.04 | bernardo | SerajewelKS: did you got problems to install it? |
| 16:21.09 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: make up your mind |
| 16:21.14 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: no, apt-get install monodevelop |
| 16:21.24 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: hmm? |
| 16:21.45 | Stork | hi, i'm having some problems with the netinstall - it installs fine, then i take ou the cd, and it boots up. it freezes on the line: "hisax_fcpipnp: Found adaptor Fritz!Card PCI at 00:10.0" |
| 16:22.01 | bernardo | SerajewelKS: here it says....impossible to find package |
| 16:22.15 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: afaik it's only in testing and unstable right now |
| 16:22.48 | bernardo | SerajewelKS: oh....im using stable! |
| 16:23.35 | *** part/#debian lamp_ (n=lamp@d51523730.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:23.41 | bernardo | SerajewelKS: the unstable version is really "unstable"?? |
| 16:23.41 | *** join/#debian DarKnesS_WolF (n=wolf@196.218.76.253) |
| 16:23.57 | asg | bernardo: at times, yes |
| 16:24.20 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: you are referring to the unstable version of what, debian or monodevelop? |
| 16:24.25 | asg | bernardo: /msg dpkg sid faq (see the horrible bugs link) |
| 16:24.40 | bernardo | asg: so for a person that is not used to debian the stable is better? |
| 16:24.53 | novem | anyone? :( |
| 16:25.00 | SerajewelKS | juice`: what does 'dpkg -l libxft2 | tail -1' say? |
| 16:25.07 | asg | bernardo: yes, that's what we recommend. You might find a backport (backports.org) for the unstable package though. |
| 16:25.07 | bernardo | SerajewelKS: debian... |
| 16:25.08 | abrotman | novem: using SSL ? |
| 16:25.12 | novem | no |
| 16:25.29 | abrotman | check DNS and your vhost config ... also try #apache |
| 16:25.29 | *** join/#debian joyr (n=joyr@m187.ip3.netikka.fi) |
| 16:25.29 | *** join/#debian embrik (i=foobar@216-130-55.0502.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 16:25.44 | *** join/#debian obscuresoul (n=soul@87-196-238-118.net.novis.pt) |
| 16:25.45 | obscuresoul | hello |
| 16:25.49 | novem | been asking in #apache for over 3 hours, and vhosts are correct :( |
| 16:26.10 | embrik | anybody who wants to help me with a printer? |
| 16:26.14 | novem | #apache kind of just gave up, with "debians apache is fudged" |
| 16:26.17 | SerajewelKS | bernardo: it can be stable on day and break the next. hence "unstable". remember sid from toy story? that's the idea. |
| 16:26.43 | Stork | hi, i'm having some problems with the netinstall - it installs fine, then i take ou the cd, and it boots up. it freezes on the line: "hisax_fcpcipnp: Found adaptor Fritz!Card PCI at 00:10.0" |
| 16:26.48 | bernardo | SerajewelKS: oh...hehe...i know =) |
| 16:27.23 | SerajewelKS | !tell Stork about repeat |
| 16:27.44 | *** join/#debian messia (n=juve@host84-255.pool8255.interbusiness.it) |
| 16:27.48 | Stork | sorry |
| 16:27.54 | embrik | i've copied HP-LaserJet_1020-foo2zjs.ppd into .../cups/models/ |
| 16:28.19 | streuner | Stork: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 16:28.39 | Stork | streuner, i don't know, can't get it to load.. |
| 16:29.06 | streuner | Stork: so you cannot even boot Linux at all? |
| 16:29.08 | bernardo | bye everyone |
| 16:29.38 | streuner | Stork: what did you do in the past? |
| 16:29.56 | streuner | hm |
| 16:30.20 | *** part/#debian embrik (i=foobar@216-130-55.0502.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 16:31.22 | *** join/#debian peallary (n=peallary@pla93-3-82-240-8-215.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:32.16 | *** join/#debian dadexter (n=dadexter@modemcable152.209-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 16:32.58 | Gyuszk|nem | bye allz |
| 16:33.10 | *** join/#debian myr (n=myr@d83-177-194-188.cust.tele2.fr) |
| 16:33.25 | *** join/#debian saapas (i=saapas@a80-186-130-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 16:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 476] by debhelper |
| 16:34.03 | *** join/#debian overflow (n=overflow@201.242.190.26) |
| 16:34.56 | phatfish | Does apt ever install packages into /opt? If i wanted to put some programs that i compile myself in there, that wont cause a problem right? |
| 16:35.24 | Eulex | no. |
| 16:35.25 | *** join/#debian Emiliano (n=Emiliano@host211-184.pool877.interbusiness.it) |
| 16:36.04 | phatfish | k thanks :) |
| 16:36.31 | novem | okay, can anyone tell me why if apache vhosts are set correct, that all domains go to one vhost/index.html, there going to the vhost file that is highest in name heirarchy?!? over the one that closest matches servername directive to the fqd |
| 16:36.59 | Thug-N-Me | is it better to send all outgoing mail via another SMTP server, or send them myself ? |
| 16:37.11 | *** join/#debian pavlovsdog (n=jetscrea@ppp-70-242-3-182.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 16:37.39 | blondie | Thug-N-Me: that depends on whether your IP is blacklisted ;) |
| 16:39.11 | novem | anyone? pretty please.. |
| 16:39.39 | *** join/#debian avar (n=Huld@dsl-228-236.hive.is) |
| 16:40.02 | blondie | novem: #apache |
| 16:40.10 | *** join/#debian saapas (n=saapas@a80-186-130-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 16:40.17 | novem | im in apache, ive ben in it asking for over 4 hours now. |
| 16:40.30 | Thug-N-Me | blondie well my isp gave me something for smtp " smtp.bulldogdsl.com " can i use this ? |
| 16:40.51 | Thug-N-Me | blondie they also gave me a ip for this smtp :)) what for ? |
| 16:41.20 | *** join/#debian jsmidt (n=jsmidt@128.187.188.224) |
| 16:41.25 | blondie | Thug-N-Me: set it as a smarthost |
| 16:41.25 | *** join/#debian jsmidt_ (n=jsmidt@128.187.188.224) |
| 16:41.36 | blondie | !they won't help |
| 16:41.39 | blondie | !they won't help me |
| 16:41.41 | *** join/#debian buffoon (n=buffoon@dadsl-244165.rol.raiffeisen.net) |
| 16:41.45 | blondie | !they don't know |
| 16:41.45 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 16:41.49 | blondie | something like that |
| 16:41.57 | *** join/#debian DartmanX2 (i=foobar@ppp-70-225-82-24.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net) |
| 16:42.07 | Thug-N-Me | blondie what would that be ? set it as a smarthost |
| 16:42.10 | novem | is there a specific debian help chanel, or is this not a help channel? |
| 16:42.27 | jsmidt_ | dpkg etch |
| 16:42.27 | dpkg | from memory, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 16:42.27 | *** join/#debian loggygreg (n=greg@ALille-251-1-105-116.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:43.04 | blondie | novem: yes, here, but that's an apache question not a debian one |
| 16:43.19 | blondie | Thug-N-Me: setup exim and tell it to use a smarthost |
| 16:43.25 | blondie | hmm |
| 16:43.27 | novem | sorry, i know, but everyone in #apache is sending me here, because of debian specific apache setup |
| 16:43.37 | overflow | hey .. I need help I get is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 16:43.38 | Thug-N-Me | blondie well i try to configure postfix |
| 16:43.40 | overflow | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 16:43.42 | overflow | is only available from another source |
| 16:43.43 | roxy_ | in xconfig, where can I find the snd module? |
| 16:43.44 | overflow | for every package |
| 16:43.46 | blondie | I wouldn't know about postfix |
| 16:44.16 | DartmanX2 | does anyone know a good DVD burning frontend besides k3b? the k3b dependencies in unstable are screwed up |
| 16:44.19 | blondie | hmm, my etch install is stuck on "Configuring gnome-utils" |
| 16:45.31 | *** join/#debian mcm (n=mcm@95.67.3.213.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 16:46.04 | nkuttler | novem: if the debian package changed something in the configuration it should be documented |
| 16:46.23 | nkuttler | novem: look in /usr/share/doc/apache2*, install apache2-doc and look what it says |
| 16:46.38 | *** join/#debian Margaretthe (n=kurumin@201-42-145-2.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 16:46.56 | *** join/#debian Stork (n=alex@storkey.plus.com) |
| 16:47.13 | novem | nkuttler: they just split up the vhost files. I should be asking in apache but not even because of being debian specific, simply, no one in #apache can answer my question. |
| 16:47.13 | nkuttler | novem: and who knows, it could be a bug. /msg dpkg bts. |
| 16:47.35 | blondie | are you using apache2? |
| 16:47.39 | novem | yes |
| 16:47.43 | nkuttler | novem: then find a mailing list |
| 16:48.02 | Stork | how do i become root in debian so i can use apt-get ? |
| 16:48.23 | nkuttler | Stork: su for example |
| 16:48.24 | loggygreg | Stork: su |
| 16:48.27 | *** join/#debian justStormY (n=rgaior@p5080D7F3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:49.10 | Stork | i tried "su apt-get" and it said "unknown id: apt-get" |
| 16:49.21 | nkuttler | Stork: man su |
| 16:49.22 | pavlovsdog | you su, then |
| 16:49.28 | MoRLoCh | Stork: try just su - |
| 16:50.46 | buffoon | Stork, with su you can change user. First do only "su -" and then enter the root password and you can work as root now. then you can use apt-get for example |
| 16:51.06 | blondie | FUCKING PIECE OF CRAP |
| 16:51.07 | blondie | >.< |
| 16:52.01 | *** join/#debian PerfDave (n=grimoire@stanley.ox.compsoc.net) |
| 16:52.05 | PerfDave | Hmm, can I mount a .bin/.cue combo as a loopback, or will I have to burn them with k3b? |
| 16:52.17 | *** join/#debian knoppers (n=debian31@dslb-084-057-201-112.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:52.33 | blondie | try mounting the .bin |
| 16:52.39 | vin` | blondie: what is? |
| 16:52.48 | *** join/#debian |RABBIT| (i=hell@arx.rabbit.us) |
| 16:52.54 | blondie | etch installer |
| 16:52.59 | |RABBIT| | greetings |
| 16:53.02 | *** join/#debian quittt (n=quitete@200-160-74-3.user.ajato.com.br) |
| 16:53.08 | blondie | hello bunny |
| 16:53.27 | *** join/#debian gilianima (n=yanimax_@lab75-3-82-235-26-179.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:53.35 | |RABBIT| | if I don't insall a monstrosity wm (kde/gnome) how can I get something like wmaker/fluxbox etc to launch at system startup |
| 16:53.43 | |RABBIT| | as far as I know they don't come with desktop managers...? |
| 16:53.54 | quittt | hi |
| 16:54.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 485] by debhelper |
| 16:54.02 | quittt | I stopped my updating because of energy light |
| 16:54.09 | quittt | It was configuring my packages |
| 16:54.10 | ke6isf | |RABBIT|: xdm comes to mind. |
| 16:54.13 | quittt | how do I continue it? |
| 16:54.23 | *** join/#debian ghost333 (n=sylvain@AToulouse-252-1-44-102.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:54.31 | Coweater | |RABBIT|: you can use xdm, or gdm, and i'm pretty sure kdm will even work |
| 16:54.32 | quittt | there was a command to continue that |
| 16:54.39 | ke6isf | !tell quittt -about enter |
| 16:54.53 | quittt | please, I am desperate |
| 16:55.04 | quittt | tell me how do I continue that and I leave |
| 16:55.06 | blondie | wtf |
| 16:55.15 | nkuttler | quittt: man dpkg will tell you |
| 16:55.15 | ke6isf | quittt: Well, calm down and explain what's going on - and don't punctuate your sentences with enter, it makes them hard to read. |
| 16:55.17 | blondie | I'm rerunning the installer and it's different than before |
| 16:55.20 | loggygreg | quittt: apt-get -f install |
| 16:55.38 | quittt | :q |
| 16:57.05 | *** join/#debian dimes (n=dimes@ip-85-160-174-34.eurotel.cz) |
| 16:57.13 | *** part/#debian dimes (n=dimes@ip-85-160-174-34.eurotel.cz) |
| 16:58.00 | *** join/#debian smile (n=54414fe1@unaffiliated/smile) |
| 16:58.53 | *** join/#debian misti_cristi (i=misti_cr@86.125.213.232) |
| 16:59.08 | *** part/#debian |RABBIT| (i=hell@arx.rabbit.us) |
| 16:59.10 | *** join/#debian priscila (n=priscila@unaffiliated/prinewgirl) |
| 17:01.49 | *** join/#debian lodeon (n=not4u@h124n4c2o1023.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 17:01.51 | *** join/#debian DJ-Marcuzz|NL (n=djmarcuz@84-245-14-199.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 17:01.56 | *** join/#debian dadexter (n=dadexter@modemcable152.209-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 17:03.51 | *** join/#debian knoppers (n=debian31@dslb-084-057-201-112.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:04.35 | *** join/#debian cbc (n=cbc@190.Red-80-25-248.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:04.36 | *** join/#debian HazyNRG_ (n=HazyNRG@lns-bzn-4-82-250-115-199.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 17:05.38 | *** join/#debian _ToNhO_ (n=tonhoo@201.41.200.11) |
| 17:06.02 | *** join/#debian m00s3s (n=m00s3s@cs181196022.pp.htv.fi) |
| 17:06.13 | *** join/#debian knoppers (n=debian31@dslb-084-057-201-112.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:07.28 | *** join/#debian Servo888 (n=Servo888@c-69-246-109-229.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 17:07.41 | obscuresoul | does the module-init-tools package is the successor of the modutils package? |
| 17:08.08 | streuner | obscuresoul: one packages is for 2.4.x kernels, the other for 2.6.x kernels |
| 17:08.19 | *** join/#debian efaistos_ (n=efaistos@m203.net81-64-31.noos.fr) |
| 17:08.33 | Peterken | Hello, i was woundering. I want to upgrade to debian unstable. What is the best way to do that? Just change my sources.conf to the unstable? And another question: is it smart to change everything to unstable, or should i better not do that? (i'm now working with debian sarge stable) |
| 17:08.48 | ke6isf | !iyhtays Peterken |
| 17:08.48 | dpkg | Peterken: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 17:09.13 | streuner | obscuresoul: modutils=2.4.x... |
| 17:09.13 | obscuresoul | streuner, thank you :) |
| 17:09.15 | Peterken | heu? :-) don't get it |
| 17:09.27 | Peterken | i should not do it? |
| 17:09.54 | ke6isf | Peterken: Nope. |
| 17:09.55 | *** join/#debian knoppers (n=debian31@dslb-084-057-201-112.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:10.23 | Peterken | is there a special reason for? |
| 17:10.36 | *** join/#debian dadexter (n=dadexter@modemcable152.209-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 17:10.48 | ke6isf | Peterken: Pretty much what dpkg just said. |
| 17:10.48 | *** join/#debian execve (n=bann3d@125.22.37.162) |
| 17:11.29 | *** join/#debian pingouin (n=pingouin@tou59-1-82-225-133-50.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:11.36 | ke6isf | !unstable |
| 17:11.36 | dpkg | i heard unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid. see sid faq. |
| 17:11.59 | *** join/#debian noen (n=noen@217-55-65.0509.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 17:12.02 | streuner | obscuresoul: You're welcome. |
| 17:12.09 | Peterken | ah key :-) |
| 17:12.35 | *** join/#debian dukebody (n=Elive_us@212.106.213.97) |
| 17:12.48 | noen | Anyone know if a workspace has a display address (ie. :0.4) ? |
| 17:13.05 | *** join/#debian darkcmd (n=jason@adsl-69-214-18-248.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) |
| 17:14.16 | cahoot | noen: check with xwininfo |
| 17:14.26 | noen | cahoot, will do |
| 17:14.54 | ChrisW | anyone know what the following in dmesg means? "WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured USB Mass Storage" |
| 17:15.31 | *** join/#debian davro (n=davro@cpc3-ches2-0-0-cust844.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
| 17:15.46 | *** join/#debian norskfjord (n=jsz@CWPP-p-144-134-231-33.prem.tmns.net.au) |
| 17:16.35 | noen | cahoot, im afraid it didnt tell me much :( |
| 17:18.06 | mrverbose | the debian-etch-installer is very buggy, i am now installing sarge and try to dist-upgrade later |
| 17:18.40 | *** join/#debian Lingo (n=chatzill@ppp-70-244-122-224.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 17:19.11 | *** join/#debian efaistos_ (n=efaistos@m203.net81-64-31.noos.fr) |
| 17:19.20 | *** join/#debian Codenut (n=ME@dpc6746179042.direcpc.com) |
| 17:19.31 | *** join/#debian lindenle (n=lindenle@ppp-70-225-183-1.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) |
| 17:19.41 | *** join/#debian kingsley (n=kingsley@dsl-47-181.nas.com) |
| 17:20.28 | Lingo | My Debian system won't understand CD's. It's mounted, and it shows no errors, but I have a file on there and Debian renders it empty. Why is this happening? |
| 17:20.31 | *** part/#debian lindenle (n=lindenle@ppp-70-225-183-1.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) |
| 17:21.03 | *** join/#debian abrotman (n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 17:21.15 | *** join/#debian wendell3_ (n=wendell@24-136-27-31.alc-bsr1.chi-alc.il.cable.rcn.com) |
| 17:21.30 | mrverbose | Lingo: modprobe ide-cd |
| 17:21.48 | *** part/#debian ChrisW (i=user@81.5.181.26) |
| 17:21.54 | Lingo | mrverbose:is that a command to run? |
| 17:22.22 | mrverbose | yes, it loads the kernel module for the cdrom-driver |
| 17:22.36 | Lingo | ok |
| 17:22.38 | wireddd | Peterken, maybe you should try testing rather than enstable |
| 17:22.42 | wireddd | err unstable |
| 17:22.47 | *** join/#debian khiloa (n=khiloa@rrcs-70-61-201-80.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:22.56 | khiloa | is anyone here familiar with GNU MP? |
| 17:22.57 | Lingo | mrverbose: thanks, bye |
| 17:23.43 | *** join/#debian Lingo (n=chatzill@ppp-70-244-122-224.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 17:23.57 | blondie | what stupid setting tells debian to make new users have world-readable home dirs? |
| 17:24.12 | *** join/#debian Codenut (n=ME@dpc6746179042.direcpc.com) |
| 17:24.17 | Lingo | blondie: none |
| 17:24.21 | saapas | how come my second ethernet adapter's link encap is unspecified ? |
| 17:24.26 | blondie | Lingo: wrong answer |
| 17:24.35 | *** join/#debian evilstoy (i=HydraIRC@83-131-23-165.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 17:24.42 | blondie | Lingo: I want the correct answer immediately! |
| 17:24.46 | *** join/#debian mijndert (n=mijndert@i172108.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 17:25.05 | Lingo | blondie: my home folders aren't world-readable by default. |
| 17:25.14 | blondie | that's nice |
| 17:25.28 | Lingo | and I never changed the settings |
| 17:25.28 | blondie | mine are, and it didn't ask me |
| 17:25.36 | Lingo | it didn't ask me |
| 17:25.47 | blondie | well I certainly didn't change the settings. |
| 17:26.11 | Lingo | fine. but don't demand answers; it's quite rude, and I don't know. |
| 17:26.17 | *** join/#debian unix_infidel (n=blue@adsl-68-94-6-53.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 17:26.34 | blondie | Lingo: well don't give wrong answers! |
| 17:26.36 | blondie | jeez |
| 17:26.45 | Lingo | I gave the right ones for me |
| 17:26.59 | Lingo | from what i've seen |
| 17:27.21 | blondie | well you didn't specify! |
| 17:27.29 | nkuttler | blondie: well how do you add the user? |
| 17:27.52 | *** join/#debian mirak (n=mirak@ip-7.net-82-216-143.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 17:28.40 | Lingo | mrverbose: sry, I forgot the command. What was it? |
| 17:28.56 | *** join/#debian tenaka (n=rdarch@i-195-137-103-253.freedom2surf.net) |
| 17:29.08 | loggygreg | Lingo: modprobe ide-cd |
| 17:29.19 | Lingo | thx loggygreg |
| 17:29.31 | *** join/#debian maxb (n=Max_Bows@i-195-137-12-32.freedom2surf.net) |
| 17:29.35 | tenaka | does anyone know why i dont have libdvdcss in my sarge apt list any more? i've spent several hours on google trying to discover why i only have a virtual package |
| 17:29.35 | Lingo | bye |
| 17:29.48 | *** part/#debian khiloa (n=khiloa@rrcs-70-61-201-80.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:29.57 | blondie | nkuttler: useradd. |
| 17:31.06 | abrotman | tenaka: it's not in sarge .. it's with marillat's stuff |
| 17:31.12 | mirak | hi |
| 17:31.27 | *** join/#debian egoX (n=egoX@p549A92B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:31.31 | tenaka | abrotman: ah thanks :) should have realised |
| 17:31.37 | *** join/#debian mcm (n=mcm@196.183.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 17:31.40 | tenaka | its been a long times since i had to install debs |
| 17:31.41 | maxb | Has anyone had any luck with spamassassin+identd? Despite identd working correctly in manual testing, it always seems to be returning NO-USER to spamd. |
| 17:31.51 | *** part/#debian iain (n=iain@ip-65.net-82-216-251.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 17:32.07 | *** part/#debian smile (n=54414fe1@unaffiliated/smile) |
| 17:32.24 | *** join/#debian Brian_L (n=brian@c-69-137-239-43.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 17:32.38 | blondie | anyway it's fucking annoying |
| 17:32.41 | overflow | Hi, I cann't install any package. apt always says that the packages is: "missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source" |
| 17:33.11 | obscuresoul | there is any ftp client package to mozilla? |
| 17:33.11 | tenaka | overflow: what apt sources are you using? |
| 17:33.38 | overflow | tenaka: official ones right now: |
| 17:33.41 | *** join/#debian priscila (n=priscila@unaffiliated/prinewgirl) |
| 17:33.53 | overflow | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 17:33.56 | *** join/#debian darkcmd (n=jason@adsl-69-214-18-248.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) |
| 17:34.04 | tenaka | overflow: and this is happening with all packages? |
| 17:34.10 | overflow | tenaka: yes. |
| 17:34.34 | Stork | how do i install and configure 'sudo' on debian? |
| 17:35.05 | tenaka | overflow: what does aptitude update give you? |
| 17:35.16 | abrotman | overflow: did you run apt-get update first .. or aptitude update |
| 17:35.24 | nkuttler | Stork: surprisingly apt-get install sudo and man (vi)sudo |
| 17:35.27 | overflow | abrotman: yes. |
| 17:35.30 | overflow | tenaka: wait |
| 17:35.47 | overflow | tenaka: Obj http://ftp.debian.org stable/main Release |
| 17:35.59 | tenaka | overflow: one sec, pm |
| 17:36.11 | overflow | tenaka: Obj=Hit |
| 17:36.12 | *** join/#debian pdbogen (n=pdbogen@pdpc/supporter/student/OctalTHOR) |
| 17:36.20 | *** join/#debian jackylaen (n=mcs2k@p548D4031.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:36.21 | *** join/#debian Vince35 (n=demo-ubu@d213-103-231-9.cust.tele2.fr) |
| 17:36.31 | Stork | nkuttler, whenever i try and use it it says: "alex is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 17:36.31 | Stork | " |
| 17:36.46 | abrotman | i would hope i'm not |
| 17:36.54 | blondie | ARGH |
| 17:37.03 | *** join/#debian beered (n=me@ip70-171-212-49.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 17:37.08 | blondie | I hate debian |
| 17:37.20 | pdbogen | blondie : But Debian loves you! |
| 17:37.23 | *** join/#debian dorel (n=liran@85-65-13-229.barak-online.net) |
| 17:37.26 | dorel | hey |
| 17:37.37 | beered | I have to manually delete /var/run/wpa_supplicant/eth1 every time I reboot and start wireless. Any ideas why the socket isn't cleared when I shut down? |
| 17:37.37 | blondie | then it can fucking do things sensibly! |
| 17:37.43 | dorel | uhmm, has anyone registered a domain with yahoo.com including mail/hosting services? i have a general question regarding utilizing the webmail/pop account |
| 17:37.45 | jackylaen | DCC SEND ?string? 0 0 0 |
| 17:37.45 | *** join/#debian xdr (n=xdr@c83-248-49-117.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 17:37.49 | jackylaen | haha |
| 17:37.59 | *** join/#debian JohnDoh (n=jeff@unaffiliated/JohnDoh) |
| 17:38.03 | pdbogen | beered : Sounds like wpa_supplicant isn't being killed nicely. |
| 17:38.10 | Stork | nkuttler, ?? |
| 17:38.10 | mirak | is there a way to clean non used applications and packages with apt ? |
| 17:38.19 | jackylaen | DCC SEND ?string? 0 0 0 |
| 17:38.20 | *** join/#debian erikm (n=erikm@CPE-65-25-241-194.mn.res.rr.com) |
| 17:38.20 | *** join/#debian Acid`X (n=tim@201.243.245.31) |
| 17:38.30 | *** join/#debian unix_infidel (n=blue@adsl-68-94-6-53.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 17:38.35 | *** join/#debian JohnDoh (n=jeff@unaffiliated/JohnDoh) |
| 17:39.06 | nkuttler | Stork: man visudo |
| 17:39.26 | beered | pdbogen: ya, but how do I kill it nicley? btw, is it just me or that realy sounds funny. |
| 17:39.44 | pdbogen | beered : wpa_supplicant has a command/control utility that you should use. |
| 17:39.52 | pdbogen | I don't have it on this box, so I can't check the exact syntax offhand. |
| 17:39.54 | *** join/#debian Lingo (n=chatzill@ppp-70-244-122-224.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 17:39.59 | darkcmd | why are people posting how to exploit linksys routers in here? |
| 17:40.00 | *** join/#debian raz0 (n=morten@0x50a1608b.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 17:40.46 | beered | pdbogen: hrmm... I've been using ctrl-c all this time... :) |
| 17:41.01 | beered | pdbogen: that's ok. I can 'man' this. thanks for help. |
| 17:41.06 | pdbogen | beered : No problem. |
| 17:41.34 | pdbogen | beered : FYI, wpa_supplicant is designed to run in the background and supplant the standard wireless tools, to some extent. |
| 17:41.45 | pdbogen | Which is kind of shitty, IMHO, but I suppose it's necessary for the way it works. |
| 17:42.26 | blondie | ok retarded behaviour correct (/etc/adduser.conf fixed) |
| 17:42.28 | *** join/#debian hirisov (n=hirisov@195.70.42.3) |
| 17:42.29 | blondie | +ed |
| 17:42.32 | hirisov | hi |
| 17:42.40 | pdbogen | hirisov : Hallo. |
| 17:42.48 | pdbogen | dorel: BTW... |
| 17:42.51 | blondie | hello |
| 17:42.53 | pdbogen | ~tell dorel about ask |
| 17:42.57 | Brian_L | does any one know of a decent tutorial for installing FreeNX on debian sarge? |
| 17:42.57 | blondie | c.c |
| 17:42.59 | Stork | nkuttler, how do i edit the sudoers file :\ ? |
| 17:43.20 | pdbogen | Stork : open /etc/sudoers with your favorite editor. |
| 17:43.20 | abrotman | !tell Brian_L about freenx |
| 17:43.24 | hirisov | i'd like to ask for advice in the following task pls: i have two servers, A and B. A was a mail server for domains for a long time, now i moved the mail server to B and updated the MX records in domains |
| 17:43.26 | blondie | JEEEZ |
| 17:43.33 | Lingo | Stork: or run visudo |
| 17:43.36 | Stork | pdbogen, yeah but what do i put in it lol |
| 17:43.38 | beered | pdbogen: in a way it is nice that it's a background process. it can be easuly scripted to do magic things. |
| 17:43.46 | Brian_L | thanks! |
| 17:43.52 | *** join/#debian SaLoMoN (n=SaLoMoN@p54A8995C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:43.54 | hirisov | mostly it worked okay, but from some hosts the mails keep arrive at A instead of B, i think wrong local dns servers or such |
| 17:44.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 492] by debhelper |
| 17:44.05 | pdbogen | Stork : That depends on what you want to do with it. Try reading the man file. |
| 17:44.07 | Lingo | Stork: user ALL=ALL(ALL) |
| 17:44.11 | pdbogen | hirisov : That, or they're ignoring MX records. |
| 17:44.26 | hirisov | what is the simplest way to get all the mails which arrives to A send to B instantly? |
| 17:44.36 | pdbogen | hirisov : Which MTA are you using? |
| 17:44.50 | hirisov | i can use any as i want to reinstall A |
| 17:44.56 | *** part/#debian maxb (n=Max_Bows@i-195-137-12-32.freedom2surf.net) |
| 17:44.58 | *** join/#debian ChrisW (i=user@81.5.181.26) |
| 17:45.08 | hirisov | so i'll put the one which does this task in the simplest way. on B i use qmail |
| 17:45.10 | pdbogen | hirisov : Then whenever you set up the MTA, just set it with a smart relay of machine B. |
| 17:45.13 | ChrisW | FAT: bogus logical sector size 64543 |
| 17:45.13 | ChrisW | VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev 08:50. |
| 17:45.22 | ChrisW | hmm, does vfat not understand fat32? |
| 17:45.27 | hirisov | is it the "smarthost" behaviour of exim4 eg? |
| 17:45.27 | pdbogen | The absolute easiest way is using ssmtp, but I don't know if that is willing to listen to outside ports. |
| 17:45.33 | blondie | Lingo: sorry for being a cunt |
| 17:45.43 | pdbogen | ChrisW: No, that implies there is something wrong with the filesystem. |
| 17:45.45 | overflow | Hi, apt-setup is seting the sources to testing ... Any idea why ? PLZ HELP! |
| 17:45.47 | pdbogen | hirisov : Yes, almost certainly. |
| 17:45.48 | Lingo | blondie: everyone gets frustrated |
| 17:45.52 | pdbogen | But for some reason I hate exim4 with a passion. |
| 17:45.53 | ChrisW | pdbogen: well, it works fine under windows |
| 17:45.59 | ChrisW | how can I debug further? |
| 17:46.06 | hirisov | and what u suggest? |
| 17:46.15 | hirisov | what would u use for this task pls? |
| 17:46.25 | Lingo | blondie: it's ok, just try not to do it again |
| 17:46.26 | pdbogen | ChrisW: Check man mount for vfat options and see if there are debug options. |
| 17:46.38 | hirisov | i dont have any preference, as i want it keep as simple as possible |
| 17:46.44 | pdbogen | hirisov : Like I said, I would try ssmtp first; it is ridiculously easy to configure. |
| 17:46.48 | Zugschlus | pdbogen: then use something else |
| 17:46.58 | pdbogen | hirisov : Barring that, whichever you're most familiar with. Probably qmail, since you've already set it up once. |
| 17:47.00 | *** join/#debian Phlexonance (n=phlexona@85-124-22-198.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 17:47.00 | pdbogen | Zugschlus : I do. :) |
| 17:47.09 | Zugschlus | or file bugs so that we can improve the exim4 packaging |
| 17:47.11 | hirisov | pdbogen, thanks, you helped me a lot! |
| 17:47.26 | *** part/#debian manymore (n=gary@ip68-98-25-179.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 17:47.28 | *** join/#debian wakejagr (n=wakejagr@h-67-100-133-16.phlapafg.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 17:47.28 | hirisov | qmail is quite complicated imho, i mainly set it up w/ qmailtoaster |
| 17:47.46 | hirisov | which installs clamav, spamassasin, virtual hosts, everything and i dont need these at all |
| 17:47.53 | Zugschlus | qmail has been unmaintained for years and is not even free. There is no reason at all to use qmail for new installs |
| 17:47.57 | blondie | Lingo: I can try :| |
| 17:47.59 | Zugschlus | !start an MTA war |
| 17:47.59 | dpkg | postfix has shitty documentation |
| 17:48.05 | blondie | abrotman: video "just works" with etch instead of sarge |
| 17:48.14 | pdbogen | Zugschlus : Sorry, I don't think there's actually anything wrong with exim4, and I don't think/know that any of the real MTAs are any better. |
| 17:48.24 | Stork | Lingo, i get the same error :\ |
| 17:48.32 | *** part/#debian tenaka (n=rdarch@i-195-137-103-253.freedom2surf.net) |
| 17:48.34 | pdbogen | Stork: Did you replace 'user' with your username? |
| 17:48.50 | Stork | if i say no, will you laugh at me? |
| 17:48.55 | MoRLoCh | Stork: sure |
| 17:48.58 | Lingo | of course not |
| 17:48.59 | Stork | then yes, yes i did |
| 17:49.08 | pdbogen | Zugschlus : Other real MTAs, I should say; as differentiated from, e.g., ssmtp, which only exists to get mail to a hub. |
| 17:49.16 | Thug-N-Me | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 17:49.22 | Thug-N-Me | hmmm can be because of squid ? |
| 17:49.24 | Lingo | Stork: lol |
| 17:49.41 | Stork | i'm used to ubuntu lol |
| 17:49.50 | Zugschlus | pdbogen: to a hub which is always present with 0 % downtime |
| 17:50.05 | Stork | also, do i need to edit my sources.list if i want to install php, mysql ? |
| 17:50.06 | pdbogen | Zugschlus : Point taken. |
| 17:50.21 | ChrisW | hurm, how do I find where in /dev this device is hiding? |
| 17:50.21 | pdbogen | Stork : No, but you do need to know what you're installing. |
| 17:50.34 | *** join/#debian dadexter (n=dadexter@modemcable152.209-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 17:50.55 | Stork | pdbogen, what do you mean? |
| 17:50.59 | pdbogen | ChrisW: What device? |
| 17:51.07 | ChrisW | usb hard drive |
| 17:51.14 | pdbogen | Stork: There are, IIRC, two different versions of PHP for two different versions of Apache in Debian Sid. |
| 17:51.14 | *** join/#debian MrRio (n=rio@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/MrRio) |
| 17:51.17 | pdbogen | ChrisW: Check 'dmesg' |
| 17:51.24 | pdbogen | ChrisW: It should be something like /dev/sda, though. |
| 17:51.35 | ChrisW | pdbogen: have, but I think I'm misreading something... |
| 17:51.36 | MrRio | hey, is there a channel for help with packaging? |
| 17:51.41 | ChrisW | pastebin? |
| 17:51.45 | pdbogen | Go ahead. |
| 17:51.50 | ChrisW | where is one? |
| 17:51.56 | ChrisW | I was hoping the bot would help ;-) |
| 17:51.57 | pdbogen | ~tell ChrisW about pastebin |
| 17:52.23 | pdbogen | You usually have to directly address the bots somehow. :) |
| 17:52.26 | *** join/#debian SLippin1 (i=SLippin@c-69-243-67-207.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 17:52.27 | ChrisW | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1994 |
| 17:52.43 | overflow | What package changes the debian version ? |
| 17:52.46 | ChrisW | ah yes, it's fajita on #apache that responds to question marks ;-) |
| 17:52.46 | pdbogen | ChrisW: Ah. |
| 17:52.48 | overflow | Which package changes the debian version ? |
| 17:53.04 | ChrisW | pdbogen: urm? |
| 17:53.07 | pdbogen | ChrisW: So, /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/p1 is your partition, and /disc1 is the disc. |
| 17:53.23 | ChrisW | okay, sowhat do I I put in /etc/fstab? |
| 17:53.33 | Lingo | pdbogen: you access the bots by /msg botname command |
| 17:53.38 | pdbogen | Probably not a good idea, since in theory this can change fairly often. |
| 17:53.40 | nkuttler | overflow: do you mean /etc/debian_version? |
| 17:53.42 | pdbogen | Lingo : There are several ways. |
| 17:53.49 | pdbogen | Lingo : You can use ~ or !, or you can address them by name, I believe. |
| 17:53.53 | ChrisW | pdbogen: oh? why do you say that? |
| 17:53.56 | pdbogen | apt: start a holy war |
| 17:53.57 | apt | Microsoft is cool |
| 17:54.00 | ChrisW | and how should I mount this drive then? |
| 17:54.10 | *** join/#debian mortum (n=fjbf@84.232.68.214) |
| 17:54.11 | ChrisW | !bite pdbogen |
| 17:54.18 | blondie | apt: work faster |
| 17:54.19 | apt | ACTION looks over the shoulder of faster to see what needs to be done and then sets the elves to work getting it all done so faster can play bzflag |
| 17:54.33 | resiak | ravenbird: laziness |
| 17:54.35 | ravenbird | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 17:54.45 | Lingo | !kill stupid people who play with the bots |
| 17:54.48 | overflow | nkuttler: yes .. well, Im having problems with apt, I cann't install any package, and apt-setup set my sources to testing and Im using stable... |
| 17:54.48 | pdbogen | ChrisW: Well, when you connect it the dev node you get depends on what devices are present. If you understand that it may not work all of the time, you can go ahead and add it to fstab like: /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/p1 /mnt/point vfat defaults 0 0 |
| 17:54.56 | *** join/#debian JPQuiceno (n=JuanPabl@68-235-242-129.miamfl.adelphia.net) |
| 17:55.05 | pdbogen | ChrisW: Or, each time you connect it you can mount it as root with: mount -tvfat /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/p1 /mnt/point |
| 17:55.13 | mortum | hi |
| 17:55.14 | *** join/#debian Somefilename (n=tedy@81.181.141.218) |
| 17:55.17 | *** join/#debian patlkli (n=patlkli@217.91.79.188) |
| 17:55.19 | ChrisW | :-S |
| 17:55.25 | ChrisW | this was all much easier under windows ;-) |
| 17:55.29 | nkuttler | overflow: dpkg -S filename... |
| 17:55.43 | pdbogen | ChrisW: There is probably an easier way, but I don't know it. |
| 17:55.52 | Lingo | apt: be lazy |
| 17:56.12 | ChrisW | why can't I use /dev/sdf in fstab? |
| 17:56.42 | nkuttler | ChrisW: hm, because it's not a partition? |
| 17:56.45 | Stork | is it possible to change the message i get when i ssh into debian? |
| 17:56.51 | pdbogen | ChrisW: Do you have a /dev/sdf and /dev/sdf1 ? |
| 17:56.54 | ke6isf | Stork: Yeah, /etc/motd |
| 17:57.02 | Stork | thanks P) |
| 17:57.05 | Stork | :) even |
| 17:57.05 | ChrisW | pdbogen: I thought that dmesg was telling me I did ;-) |
| 17:57.21 | ChrisW | nkuttler: okay, but so I want to plug in my usb drive and start using it |
| 17:57.27 | ChrisW | what's the process I should go through? |
| 17:57.30 | pdbogen | dorel: ls /dev/sdf1 |
| 17:57.33 | *** part/#debian Somefilename (n=tedy@81.181.141.218) |
| 17:57.34 | *** join/#debian mirak (n=mirak@ip-7.net-82-216-143.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 17:57.41 | pdbogen | ChrisW: do: ls /dev/sdf1 |
| 17:57.44 | *** join/#debian Julio (n=Julio@84.77.23.170) |
| 17:57.50 | nkuttler | ChrisW: look what dmesg says which device it is, or cat /proc/partitions |
| 17:58.16 | mrverbose | can i remove gcc-3.3-base* libstdc++5* safely in testing in case i have their gcc-4 counterpart installed? |
| 17:58.37 | pdbogen | ChrisW: I don't know of a way to do that. Which is not to say that there isn't one.. I am by no means authoritative. |
| 17:58.46 | *** join/#debian hugoboss (n=halestin@bl4-24-75.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 17:59.38 | loggygreg | mrverbose: in etch gcc-4.0 is the default compiler so I think yes |
| 17:59.55 | *** join/#debian Mariele (n=Mariele@ool-182c4580.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 18:00.31 | hugoboss | hi all. I want to download from internet. Which is the best client? Amule, Azureus, ...? |
| 18:00.48 | pdbogen | hugoboss : I don't think that question is really appropriate for this channel. |
| 18:01.17 | hugoboss | pdbogen, which channel sould I use instead? |
| 18:01.26 | pdbogen | hugoboss : Probably some channel on efnet. |
| 18:01.27 | dorel | pdbogen :) |
| 18:01.39 | dorel | pdbogen: i can also do ls /dev/sdf1 if you want :P |
| 18:01.58 | pdbogen | dorel : Heh, if it'll give you some satisfaction, you can feel free.. I don't think it's necessary, though. |
| 18:02.06 | dorel | heh |
| 18:02.19 | dorel | i have a general question about domain names |
| 18:02.21 | hugoboss | pdbogen, but specifically which channel? Do you know anyone? |
| 18:02.29 | pdbogen | hugoboss : I do not know. |
| 18:02.30 | dorel | can i give it a try? |
| 18:02.32 | nkuttler | hugoboss: #warez? |
| 18:02.36 | *** join/#debian GFEG (i=HydraIRC@adsl-69-235-16-229.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 18:02.38 | pdbogen | ~tell dorel about ask |
| 18:02.53 | dorel | ok here it goes. |
| 18:02.53 | pdbogen | dorel : Which is to say, just hurry up and ask the damn question. :) |
| 18:02.57 | GFEG | hi guys.. i need to know how to uncompress a BZ2 file |
| 18:02.59 | hugoboss | nkutter: I'll try. Thanks |
| 18:03.04 | pdbogen | GFEG: bunzip <file> |
| 18:03.09 | GFEG | thanks |
| 18:03.10 | dorel | yeah, its just non-linux related but i'd love to get an assured answer. |
| 18:03.12 | pdbogen | GFEG: *bunzip2 sorry. |
| 18:03.33 | ChrisW | pdbogen: ah, should have used /dev/sdf1 rather /dev/sdf |
| 18:03.34 | *** join/#debian _ToNhO_ (n=Tonho@201.41.200.11) |
| 18:03.38 | ChrisW | works fine :-) |
| 18:03.54 | ChrisW | now, how do I unmount? |
| 18:03.56 | pdbogen | ChrisW: Yeah, since dmesg reported the /dev/scsi/etc hierarchy, I assumed the nodes /dev/sdf etc. weren't present. |
| 18:04.02 | pdbogen | ChrisW: umount <device OR mount point> |
| 18:04.08 | ChrisW | gotcha |
| 18:04.09 | ChrisW | yay |
| 18:04.14 | *** part/#debian _ToNhO_ (n=Tonho@201.41.200.11) |
| 18:04.15 | *** join/#debian MatBoy (n=MatBoy@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl) |
| 18:04.16 | ChrisW | and one unmounted, I can just take it out? |
| 18:04.21 | pdbogen | Yes. |
| 18:04.31 | pdbogen | ChrisW: Unmounting might block while it syncs, though. |
| 18:04.42 | ChrisW | that's just fine |
| 18:04.46 | pdbogen | ChrisW: You can avoid that (at the cost of perceived loss of transfer speed) by adding the 'sync' option whenever you mount it. |
| 18:04.52 | *** join/#debian s-andy (n=s-andy@194.44.244.166) |
| 18:05.01 | *** join/#debian smile (n=54414fe1@unaffiliated/smile) |
| 18:05.03 | ChrisW | what does the sync option do? |
| 18:05.06 | dorel | so i have registered the domain example.com on yahoo but my hosting is on 1and1.com - i want to move the hosting back to yahoo so i registered a hosting + email plan. right now, my dns (mx, a, etc) are all forwarding to 1and1.com which is how and where i receive my emails. once i setup the same email accounts on my yahoo hosting and then do a dns transfer from 1and1.com name servers to yahoo will i lose mail? meaning will it be transparent to s |
| 18:05.07 | ChrisW | sounds like i want it |
| 18:05.11 | dorel | for a bad email address or something like that. |
| 18:05.25 | ChrisW | after all, the reason I have a usb drive is so that if my house is burning down, I can just grab it and run! |
| 18:05.30 | pdbogen | ChrisW: As opposed to async; it means that actual transfer operations will block until they are written to disc, as oppose to, basically, being done in the background. |
| 18:06.02 | ChrisW | ah yes, probably definitely want that |
| 18:06.04 | pdbogen | ChrisW: The only time you might lose mail is when the DNS is actually changing over. |
| 18:06.05 | *** join/#debian GFEG (i=HydraIRC@adsl-69-235-16-229.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 18:06.06 | pdbogen | Er. |
| 18:06.06 | ChrisW | goes in fstab, right? |
| 18:06.14 | pdbogen | That goes to dorel, not ChrisW. :P |
| 18:06.21 | GFEG | actually, are there any ways i can uncompress it with gunzip? |
| 18:06.24 | pdbogen | ChrisW: Yeah, you'll want something like: defaults,sync instead of defaults. |
| 18:06.31 | pdbogen | GFEG : No, and I meant bunzip2, not bunzip, sorry. |
| 18:07.07 | *** part/#debian s-andy (n=s-andy@194.44.244.166) |
| 18:07.11 | pdbogen | ChrisW: You might also like 'user', which allows any use to do: mount /mnt/point, and the same user can unmount it, instead of needing to be root. |
| 18:07.16 | dorel | pdbogen: right. but i figured im setting up the same mail accounts that were on 1and1.com on my yahoo.com account... will i still lose mail? or is it transparent? |
| 18:07.19 | *** part/#debian hugoboss (n=halestin@bl4-24-75.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 18:07.21 | *** join/#debian damog (n=damog@debian/developer/damog) |
| 18:07.44 | ChrisW | pdbogen: thanks, really appreciate all the help :-) |
| 18:07.58 | pdbogen | dorel: The end-user will not notice anything. For a short period of time there will be some uncertainty as to whether mail will end up on 1and1 or yahoo, but it will be on one or the other. |
| 18:08.25 | dorel | pdbogen: ok thank you. |
| 18:08.37 | pdbogen | ChrisW, dorel: No problem. |
| 18:08.46 | dorel | pdbogen: i just want to say that i think the yahoo webmail solution is awful :) |
| 18:08.51 | dorel | pdbogen: dont choose that heh |
| 18:09.02 | pdbogen | dorel: As a rule, I don't choose yahoo. :) |
| 18:09.07 | *** join/#debian nichos (n=nichos@c-71-199-234-200.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 18:09.08 | *** part/#debian ChrisW (i=user@81.5.181.26) |
| 18:09.20 | dorel | heh good |
| 18:09.25 | nichos | hi all, is there a way to use alt - click on a window, and let it go above the top of the screen in gnome, as it does in other wm's? |
| 18:09.42 | pdbogen | nichos : Try asking in #gnome? (Is there a #gnome?) |
| 18:09.51 | pdbogen | Ah, irc.gnome.org |
| 18:09.52 | *** join/#debian Nurbs_ (i=tom@p50895719.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:09.54 | nichos | pdbogen yeah, it's pretty quiet:) |
| 18:10.04 | nichos | oh, maybe ill try that then |
| 18:10.36 | *** join/#debian SLippin1 (i=SLippin@c-69-243-67-207.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:11.30 | *** join/#debian beyond (n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 18:11.35 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (n=robert@79-41.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 18:11.51 | *** part/#debian nichos (n=nichos@c-71-199-234-200.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 18:12.45 | *** join/#debian CleeK (n=CleeK@bwah.nogoa.org) |
| 18:12.51 | *** join/#debian Dibbler (n=Dibbler@zidane.pi-net.net) |
| 18:12.53 | *** join/#debian beered (n=me@ip70-171-212-49.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 18:13.05 | lord_rob | hi ! when I quit kde, and choose log off, I should go back to the login screen of kdm. Instead the computer freezes. I have to reboot it via ssh. Any idea why I could have this problem ? |
| 18:13.17 | pdbogen | lord_rob : What kind of video card do you have? |
| 18:13.22 | *** join/#debian balor (n=balor@gimili.plus.com) |
| 18:13.30 | *** join/#debian MyNickHere (n=none@crlsbd-cuda5-68-65-210-132.crlsca.adelphia.net) |
| 18:14.03 | lord_rob | pdbogen: ati radeon mobility r300 |
| 18:14.05 | *** join/#debian gilianima (n=yanimax_@lab75-3-82-235-26-179.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:14.13 | MyNickHere | I'm having problems with sysresccd, i can never get the mouse to work. Is this a common bug or just me, and any ideas on how to get around it? |
| 18:14.21 | lord_rob | I'm not using proprietary ati drivers pdbogen |
| 18:14.26 | MyNickHere | qtparted in particular |
| 18:14.52 | *** join/#debian This (i=This@wnpgmb01dc2-25-139.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 18:14.53 | pdbogen | lord_rob : I had a similar problem on an Intel 955GM, and newer drivers fixed it. You might try using fglrx, or seeing if you can get development versions of the radeon driver. |
| 18:14.57 | pdbogen | MyNickHere : Is sysreccd Debian? |
| 18:15.04 | *** join/#debian knoppers|2nd (n=debian31@unaffiliated/knoppers) |
| 18:15.12 | PerfDave | pdbogen: It's Gentoo-based IIRC |
| 18:15.33 | This | Hello there, my usb key is not detected and installed automatically on debian 3.1 (sarge). |
| 18:15.44 | *** join/#debian florin-_- (n=florin@host234-222.pool870.interbusiness.it) |
| 18:15.47 | vin` | lord_rob: xorg? |
| 18:15.53 | PerfDave | This: What do you mean by "detected and installed automatically"? |
| 18:15.56 | lord_rob | yes vin` 6.9 |
| 18:16.16 | MyNickHere | pdbogen: not sure, i know its linux, i think GNU/linux so yeah, probably but not sure |
| 18:16.24 | *** join/#debian OleMoudi (n=TK422@157.Red-83-46-189.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:16.34 | This | PerfDave: On windows, plug and play. On debian, insert key in usb but nothing happens. Not even added as a device |
| 18:16.36 | pdbogen | MyNickHere : sysresccd is not called 'Debian,' and so it is not Debian, and so you're almost certainly in the wrong place. :) |
| 18:16.39 | *** join/#debian priscila (n=priscila@unaffiliated/prinewgirl) |
| 18:16.55 | *** join/#debian DFfH (n=noway@80.86.240.8) |
| 18:16.59 | pdbogen | MyNickHere : Try their home page and see what they recommend for getting support. |
| 18:17.04 | MyNickHere | yes well, im using the partitioning tool to install Debian so it does realate to this |
| 18:17.18 | Thug-N-Me | where is the Spamassassin config file located ? |
| 18:17.20 | *** part/#debian Andy298 (n=none@cpc2-grim4-5-0-cust113.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 18:17.24 | MyNickHere | and ive found thier to be many nice people here who know about linux who are willing to spare 30sec to help : ) |
| 18:17.48 | pdbogen | MyNickHere : Yeah, but it's like going into the car dealership to ask for help on making a cake, because you're going to use your car to buy flour. |
| 18:18.15 | lord_rob | Is there a xorg log file that could tell me the source of my problem ? |
| 18:18.39 | pdbogen | Or other way around, maybe. Asking a baker for help on your car. Anyway, while we try to be helpful, you really can't expect for help on $RANDOM_THING just because you can relate it in some way to Debian. The simple fact is that we probably don't know anything about it. |
| 18:18.59 | *** join/#debian _theklone (i=theklone@c210-49-191-245.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 18:19.00 | pdbogen | MyNickHere : For what it's worth, I believe Knoppix includes qtparted, so you might have better luck trying that. |
| 18:19.02 | vin` | lord_rob: usually in /var/log/Xorg.0.log but unlikely the freeze would've registered. |
| 18:19.09 | This | How do I get my flash usb key to be detected on debian 3.1? |
| 18:19.20 | vin` | This: modprobe sd_mod |
| 18:19.27 | MyNickHere | Knoppix is irc channel? |
| 18:19.31 | vin` | This: which kernel? |
| 18:19.35 | This | vin': thanks. What is this supposed to do? |
| 18:19.42 | pdbogen | MyNickHere : http://www.google.com/search?q=Knoppix |
| 18:19.49 | MyNickHere | gracias |
| 18:19.54 | This | vin': the one that came with debian 3.1 sarge |
| 18:19.54 | cahoot | usb-storage should pull in sd_mod |
| 18:19.54 | geemark | apache2: why is it that when I have an undefined subdomain (no virtualhost matches) - apache2 simple picks the first virtualhost instead of giving a 404 error? |
| 18:19.57 | *** join/#debian bryndza (i=zilla@hron.fei.tuke.sk) |
| 18:20.06 | bryndza | can someone recomend me some good channel where somene can help with tweeking vsftpd, or any other ftp demon generaly on gigabit technology ? |
| 18:20.09 | *** join/#debian nefertum (n=jon@106.Red-213-96-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:20.27 | pdbogen | bryndza : #vsftpd |
| 18:20.35 | PerfDave | This: Nothing's showing up in /var/log/messages when you plug the key in? |
| 18:20.39 | This | vin': so I plug my usb key, and run modprobe sd_mod |
| 18:20.49 | cahoot | usb-storage should pull in sd_mod - This |
| 18:20.55 | vin` | This: modprobe usb-storage |
| 18:20.56 | This | cahoot? |
| 18:21.39 | *** join/#debian frank (n=nbla@P5212.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 18:21.50 | *** join/#debian Hamled (n=Charles@71-32-85-225.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 18:21.50 | This | vin': I canno test this since I am running windows. Is this the only thing I need to do when my key is connected? (modprobe usb-storage) |
| 18:21.58 | *** join/#debian curt (n=curt@pdpc/supporter/active/curt) |
| 18:22.16 | pdbogen | This: At least by default, USB storage devices do not work the same way in Linux as they do in Windows. |
| 18:22.42 | vin` | This: mount it, usually sda1. |
| 18:22.50 | *** join/#debian nvz (n=nvz@c-24-3-200-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 18:22.53 | *** join/#debian amki (n=amki@p50835051.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:22.57 | *** join/#debian Pedro420 (i=pedro@c-24-3-241-206.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 18:23.17 | Pedro420 | nvz: nandrew ? |
| 18:23.29 | This | vin': Is there a way of running an auto detection and auto mount as in Windows/ |
| 18:23.37 | nvz | Pedro420: yo momma |
| 18:23.46 | Thug-N-Me | where is the Spamassassin config file located ? /etc/spamassassin/local.cf is empty |
| 18:23.49 | pdbogen | This: Linux actually should be automatically detecting it, it just doesn't automatically mount it. |
| 18:23.54 | florin-_- | nvz use hal and pmount |
| 18:24.00 | vin` | This: are you using gnome? |
| 18:24.00 | Pedro420 | nvz: yo daddy bitch |
| 18:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 500] by debhelper |
| 18:24.02 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : That's where you put configuration directives. |
| 18:24.06 | *** join/#debian dga (n=dga@67.126.86.239) |
| 18:24.17 | Pedro420 | nvz: hey man, would any printer work in this pc ? |
| 18:24.23 | Thug-N-Me | pdbogen and where are the main config. ? |
| 18:24.26 | This | pdbogen: How to automatically mount it? I get the same problem with my digital camera |
| 18:24.40 | nvz | Pedro420: www.linuxprinting.org |
| 18:24.55 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : You shouldn't need to edit it; anything you want to change should go in local.cf. |
| 18:25.00 | nvz | Pedro420: you probably dont want one rated "paperweight" |
| 18:25.16 | Thug-N-Me | pdbogen i see thanks |
| 18:25.22 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : Try running dpkg -L spamassassin and see what it says about .cf files to find where the defaults originate from. |
| 18:25.39 | *** join/#debian fcn (n=fcn@88.240.96.226) |
| 18:25.53 | pdbogen | This: I do not know how to do it. You should try doing what florin-_- said and looking at hal/pmount, but I don't know how user-friendly that will be to get going. |
| 18:26.33 | Pedro420 | nvz: yea i guessed that one genius |
| 18:26.35 | florin-_- | that should do all the work |
| 18:26.46 | florin-_- | y'vd did thast today |
| 18:27.01 | *** join/#debian nix4me (n=nix4me@49.104.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 18:27.11 | florin-_- | just install hal and pmount |
| 18:27.29 | This | florin-_-: ? |
| 18:27.53 | florin-_- | all usb storage media should get automaticly be mounted |
| 18:28.09 | pdbogen | florin-_- : How does it handle unmounting, btw? |
| 18:28.24 | This | florin -_-: installing is as easy as apt-get install hal, pmount? |
| 18:28.31 | florin-_- | yes |
| 18:28.37 | pdbogen | This: No comma. |
| 18:28.41 | *** join/#debian trollboy (n=trollboy@69-171-52-52.clvdoh.adelphia.net) |
| 18:28.53 | concept10 | !drxx |
| 18:28.54 | dpkg | drxx is, like, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 18:29.03 | This | pdbogen: ok |
| 18:29.36 | This | florin -_-: true what pdbogen said: How to be sure that the drive can safely be removed? |
| 18:29.54 | *** join/#debian lindenl1 (n=lindenle@ppp-70-225-181-162.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) |
| 18:30.10 | pdbogen | This : FWIW, I'm sure there's some solution for it. I'm just curious. |
| 18:30.30 | This | pdbogen: want to know to! |
| 18:30.37 | florin-_- | by right cliking the icon of a mounted drive u can fin a sftly removig voce |
| 18:30.41 | florin-_- | try that |
| 18:31.16 | nvz | Pedro420: http://linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Anyone http://linuxprinting.org/suggested.html |
| 18:32.29 | *** join/#debian debiankid (i=EatMySho@h629321.serverkompetenz.net) |
| 18:32.35 | debiankid | hello all |
| 18:32.45 | *** join/#debian Silent_al (n=Debian@bzq-218-5-40.cablep.bezeqint.net) |
| 18:33.33 | debiankid | how can i get a bot like dpkg or debhelper ? i have here on my local network runnin an ircd and i have a #debian discussion channel how can i get one of this bots? |
| 18:33.44 | nvz | debiankid: which one? |
| 18:33.52 | PerfDave | debiankid: They're eggdrop bots, though modified ones. |
| 18:34.03 | *** join/#debian Boom4Doom (i=WeSz@79-go2-2.acn.waw.pl) |
| 18:34.03 | nvz | debiankid: dpkg is a blootbot, and debhelper is an eggdrop bot |
| 18:34.04 | debiankid | nvz for example dpkg |
| 18:34.13 | Boom4Doom | http://s9.bitefight.pl/c.php?uid=33858 - how strange picture... |
| 18:34.16 | *** part/#debian Boom4Doom (i=WeSz@79-go2-2.acn.waw.pl) |
| 18:34.16 | nvz | debiankid: they are both in debian |
| 18:34.37 | debiankid | nvz i have mounted my irc server on debian also i have a ripostory on same server |
| 18:34.59 | debiankid | nvz i would like to configure a bot similar to the dpkg of here |
| 18:35.01 | *** join/#debian dioxide (n=legba7__@socks.tuwien.ac.at) |
| 18:35.24 | pdbogen | debiankid : Why are you trying to reinvent the wheel? |
| 18:35.27 | debiankid | to make easier the users get the help and packages from my server |
| 18:35.33 | debiankid | wheel? |
| 18:35.47 | pdbogen | Figure of speech. Why are you trying to create a help channel for debian when there already is one? |
| 18:36.10 | debiankid | pdbogen cose i have a private network my friend |
| 18:36.37 | debiankid | pdbogen my network dont have a public ip adds |
| 18:36.42 | *** join/#debian gypsymauro (n=coloriom@host142-107.pool874.interbusiness.it) |
| 18:36.45 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 18:36.58 | nvz | gypsymauro: not yet, but I am working on it |
| 18:37.19 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nicolas@dslb-084-058-200-064.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:37.31 | *** join/#debian Kev1 (i=kevin@AGrenoble-152-1-68-171.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:37.34 | debiankid | understand what i mean ? |
| 18:37.43 | *** join/#debian nettet (n=nettet@i53879C09.versanet.de) |
| 18:37.48 | nvz | I was going to go shopping but I dont feel like walking to the store.. and since I ate already I have no reason to buy food now |
| 18:37.52 | pdbogen | Sure. |
| 18:37.55 | nvz | except to eat the rest of the week |
| 18:37.57 | nvz | heh |
| 18:38.05 | pdbogen | nvz : "My time now is worth more than my time later" :) |
| 18:38.10 | debiankid | pdbogen them what is your advice? |
| 18:38.27 | debiankid | nvz heheh |
| 18:38.33 | pdbogen | debiankid : My advice is to not try to reinvent the internet. I don't have any advice relating to your specific question, sorry. |
| 18:38.54 | gypsymauro | I've created a custom debian cd I tried to sign the release file with gpg but when I try to add the cdrom with apt-cdrom add it says gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found, in the list of apt-keys there is not mine.. how I can make my cd addable without errors and then if someone wants to add my key can verify the signature? |
| 18:39.19 | *** join/#debian pabl0 (n=pabl0@201.144.93.176) |
| 18:39.21 | *** join/#debian digitalbit (n=digitalb@80.172.10.48) |
| 18:39.21 | *** join/#debian apwal (n=kawa@195.140.140.246) |
| 18:39.28 | debiankid | pdbogen never mind |
| 18:39.45 | digitalbit | Hi! can someone get me a nice german unstable sources.list ! please . |
| 18:39.45 | pdbogen | Already did. |
| 18:39.54 | nvz | debiankid: apt-setup |
| 18:39.55 | pdbogen | digitalbit : apt-get install apt-spy && apt-spy update |
| 18:39.56 | nvz | er |
| 18:40.12 | *** part/#debian apwal (n=kawa@195.140.140.246) |
| 18:40.12 | nvz | digitalbit: apt-setup, apt-spy |
| 18:40.39 | quitte | hi. any recommendations for making oggs of individual trycks on a cd with a gui? |
| 18:40.39 | *** join/#debian adam_ (n=adam@dialup-4.239.150.37.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) |
| 18:40.43 | ke6isf | !apt-spy |
| 18:40.43 | dpkg | somebody said apt-spy was a secret! Shh!, or like 'mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' |
| 18:40.43 | adam_ | Does anyone have a clue why my ppp0 interface isn't coming up (isn't shown by ifconfig) when I try to dialup using wvdial? |
| 18:40.47 | *** join/#debian |RABBIT| (i=hell@arx.rabbit.us) |
| 18:40.50 | *** part/#debian |RABBIT| (i=hell@arx.rabbit.us) |
| 18:40.51 | nvz | Pedro420: I got a dog now |
| 18:40.57 | *** join/#debian |RABBIT| (i=hell@arx.rabbit.us) |
| 18:41.01 | resiak | quitte: sound-jicer? |
| 18:41.05 | |RABBIT| | greetings |
| 18:41.20 | |RABBIT| | after I install fluxbox none of the cli programs run |
| 18:41.21 | pdbogen | quitte : Not GUI, but 'abcde' is very good for that. |
| 18:41.28 | |RABBIT| | what other packages do I need? |
| 18:41.31 | pdbogen | quitte : It's very easy to use, as well. |
| 18:41.32 | *** join/#debian LinuxNIT (n=david@68.93.136.141) |
| 18:41.52 | debiankid | nvz what is apt-spy? |
| 18:41.53 | pdbogen | |RABBIT| : Some sort of terminal emulator? |
| 18:42.08 | *** join/#debian rE` (n=re@p549B451C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:42.08 | nvz | debiankid: its for spying on your private network |
| 18:42.13 | quitte | pdbogen: i already use abcde for complete cds. yes it's great |
| 18:42.21 | pdbogen | debiankid : http://www.google.com/search?q=apt-spy |
| 18:42.21 | nvz | debiankid: we were kind of hoping you wouldnt find out |
| 18:42.22 | quitte | resiak: ill give it a try. thanks |
| 18:42.31 | resiak | sound-juicer, even |
| 18:42.31 | unstable | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/wbmBTC39.html |
| 18:42.38 | unstable | I did apt-get install eterm, and it didn't ask me yes or no |
| 18:42.41 | unstable | It just did it. why/ |
| 18:42.46 | *** part/#debian bryndza (i=zilla@hron.fei.tuke.sk) |
| 18:42.52 | nvz | unstable: because you told it to? |
| 18:42.52 | pdbogen | unstable : Because it was the only package to be installed. |
| 18:42.53 | *** part/#debian lindenl1 (n=lindenle@ppp-70-225-181-162.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) |
| 18:42.54 | nvz | duh |
| 18:42.57 | debiankid | nvz aha? |
| 18:43.05 | unstable | pdbogen: But it wasn't. |
| 18:43.09 | unstable | pdbogen: check my link |
| 18:43.24 | nvz | unstable: the only reason it would ask is if it did something other than what you told it to |
| 18:43.38 | *** join/#debian loxley_ (n=loxley@c83-249-46-58.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 18:43.52 | unstable | nvz: It installed two libraries and I didn't tell it to. |
| 18:44.00 | debiankid | nvz for example from my rip i ahev to add http://myhost/debian/stable1 unstable main ? |
| 18:44.00 | resiak | unstable: Have you set -y in a config file? |
| 18:44.15 | unstable | resiak: no |
| 18:44.16 | mrverbose | how can i remount an already mounted volume with other options than the current ones? |
| 18:44.28 | pdbogen | mrverbose : Generally you need to unmount it first.. |
| 18:44.47 | nvz | unstable: oh well. maybe you hit enter twice |
| 18:45.05 | pdbogen | Or maybe... |
| 18:45.06 | pdbogen | It's demons. |
| 18:45.08 | unstable | resiak / nvz / pdbogen http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/8qaCK342.html |
| 18:45.15 | unstable | When I try to install gnucash no it asks me yes/no |
| 18:45.19 | *** join/#debian ecolinux (n=ecolinux@82.246.101.27) |
| 18:45.23 | pdbogen | This is a sign of the endtimes. |
| 18:45.26 | *** join/#debian caplink811-log (n=caplink8@dslb-084-059-127-001.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:45.30 | pdbogen | We must flee to high ground. |
| 18:45.45 | unstable | nvz: That's the point of being sure, you can' tjust hit enter..you must hit y and then enter |
| 18:45.56 | pdbogen | unstable : No, you musn't. |
| 18:46.07 | pdbogen | unstable : The capital 'Y' means that if you hit enter it does it. |
| 18:46.07 | unstable | I know if I do like apt-get install blah, and it only installs blah it won't ask me y/n |
| 18:46.23 | unstable | But if I do apt-get install blah, and blah depends on two libraries imlib and other shit...then it should ask me |
| 18:46.53 | *** join/#debian Aghaster (n=Aghaster@modemcable240.73-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 18:47.14 | *** join/#debian magyar (n=Ondrash@206-248-137-43.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 18:47.37 | *** join/#debian Julio (n=Julio@84.77.23.170) |
| 18:48.10 | debiankid | nvz for example from my rip i ahev to add http://myhost/debian/stable1 unstable main ? |
| 18:48.19 | debiankid | have |
| 18:48.20 | debiankid | lol |
| 18:48.52 | PerfDave | debiankid: man sources.list |
| 18:49.04 | debiankid | PerfDave thanks |
| 18:50.00 | *** join/#debian zcram (n=zcram@xor.uninet.ee) |
| 18:50.30 | *** join/#debian sixtymhz (n=sixtymhz@cpe-066-057-113-244.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 18:50.43 | digitalbit | what are the best argument ( default ) to get best near servers ( europe ) with apt-spy !? |
| 18:50.47 | *** join/#debian da5id_ (n=da5id___@dslb-084-061-036-038.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:51.00 | unstable | digitalbit: apt-spy -d stable -a Europe |
| 18:51.11 | unstable | digitalbit: First you must apt-spy update; |
| 18:51.27 | *** part/#debian frank (n=nbla@P5212.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 18:51.29 | Thug-N-Me | ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/webmail /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/810-webmail this will enable and activate it the webmin config file from sites-available/webmail to sites-enabled/810-webmail |
| 18:51.41 | Thug-N-Me | 810 can be replaced with any numbers ? |
| 18:51.47 | *** join/#debian cqst (i=cqst@82.246.201.37) |
| 18:52.20 | *** join/#debian Teratogen (i=leontopo@intertwingled.net) |
| 18:53.10 | *** join/#debian loggygreg (n=greg@ALille-251-1-65-72.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:53.50 | *** join/#debian saeko (i=saeko@82-43-160-213.cable.ubr04.newm.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:54.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 507] by debhelper |
| 18:54.44 | *** join/#debian fireba11 (n=Miranda@p54959140.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:55.17 | *** join/#debian EKHYMOSIS (n=notengo@206.106.249.11) |
| 18:55.21 | EKHYMOSIS | WeNaZ |
| 18:55.24 | *** join/#debian avtobiff (i=avtobiff@c83-248-129-196.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 18:56.31 | *** join/#debian braniff (n=asdfasdf@unaffiliated/braniff) |
| 18:57.05 | *** join/#debian xaxes|free (n=xaxes|fr@server.foonative.org) |
| 18:58.44 | braniff | i accidently chowned all files on a debian partition to be owned by an ordinary user. Needless to say, that installation no longer boots.........Is there some script to correct this sort of thing ?? |
| 18:59.13 | *** join/#debian xiel (n=xiel@c-68-60-207-212.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 18:59.39 | *** join/#debian mirak (n=mirak@ip-7.net-82-216-143.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 19:00.04 | avtobiff | braniff, boot from a livecd. or do you mean a script that you can use (after you have booted from a livecd) to restore the modes? |
| 19:00.13 | avtobiff | ownage(!) i mean ;-) |
| 19:00.26 | PerfDave | avtobiff: "ownership" :p |
| 19:00.30 | avtobiff | braniff, btw. how did you accidentally do this? |
| 19:00.34 | avtobiff | PerfDave, i know |
| 19:01.07 | *** join/#debian x-x- (n=zxx@h8441153081.dsl.speedlinq.nl) |
| 19:01.08 | braniff | avtobiff, i mean a script to restore the modes... |
| 19:01.25 | *** part/#debian florin-_- (n=florin@host234-222.pool870.interbusiness.it) |
| 19:01.56 | *** part/#debian DFfH (n=noway@80.86.240.8) |
| 19:02.26 | *** join/#debian crazykilla726_op (n=crazykil@crlsbd-cuda5-68-65-210-132.crlsca.adelphia.net) |
| 19:02.28 | *** part/#debian crazykilla726_op (n=crazykil@crlsbd-cuda5-68-65-210-132.crlsca.adelphia.net) |
| 19:02.29 | yawg | !otd? |
| 19:02.29 | dpkg | [otd] Outlook Transmitted Disease |
| 19:02.33 | *** join/#debian sdakota (n=sdakota@82-168-141-105.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 19:02.36 | sdakota | Heya |
| 19:02.50 | sdakota | Are there any good Usenet clients for Debian? |
| 19:02.51 | braniff | i did this on a multiboot system on an entire mounted debian partition instead of the one directory i wanted access to |
| 19:03.15 | Stork | how come this ftp server allows any directory in my computer to be viewed? |
| 19:03.43 | *** join/#debian foof_ (n=f00bar@p54940DFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:03.50 | foof_ | deb deb deb |
| 19:03.52 | sdakota | Stork, it probably has too high permissions - or the root directory isn't set |
| 19:04.06 | sdakota | Stork,.. Or both |
| 19:04.15 | *** join/#debian xiel (n=xiel@c-68-60-207-212.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 19:04.21 | Stork | sdakota, right, i'm using vsftpd. do you know how i can change this? or maybe recommend a different server? |
| 19:04.24 | *** join/#debian manymore (n=gary@ip68-98-25-179.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 19:04.28 | sdakota | Stork, I'm using proftpd |
| 19:04.53 | foof_ | proftpd is bad, vsftpd is better |
| 19:04.58 | *** join/#debian xinud (n=xinud@195-144-090-005.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) |
| 19:05.00 | *** join/#debian mijndert (n=mijndert@i172108.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 19:05.07 | *** join/#debian lxuser (n=lxuser@84.red-81-184-42.user.auna.net) |
| 19:05.30 | Stork | why foof_ ? |
| 19:05.32 | *** join/#debian mortum (n=fjbf@84.232.68.214) |
| 19:05.42 | sdakota | foof_: He's having problems with vsftpd |
| 19:05.52 | MrRio | hey, im packaging a python game (its my first package so go easy on me), im getting confused about what to do, because every tutorial ive read uses a makefile to decide where the files go, now i know where the files need to be (since ive read the docs about that). i just dont know how to make it put them there |
| 19:06.06 | *** join/#debian kaeso (n=luca@unaffiliated/kaeso) |
| 19:06.10 | MrRio | do i need to write my own 'makefile' even tho python doesnt need compiling? |
| 19:06.16 | sdakota | And I'm having problems with my lack of usenet clients |
| 19:06.41 | PerfDave | MrRio: makefiles are not necessarily related to compilation. |
| 19:06.42 | Stork | :\ |
| 19:07.09 | *** join/#debian augi01 (n=eth0@m275x.resnets.asu.edu) |
| 19:07.11 | *** join/#debian lindenle (n=lindenle@ppp-70-225-167-100.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) |
| 19:07.14 | MrRio | PerfDave, right ok |
| 19:07.44 | *** join/#debian Aronofsky (n=yo@AAmiens-157-1-110-203.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:08.27 | digitalbit | Hi! try to install nvidia-glx (stable branch) but get this error : Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate :( some help please |
| 19:08.35 | braniff | sdakota, knode is a good usenet client |
| 19:08.46 | *** join/#debian XoR (i=xor@85.254.200.164) |
| 19:08.48 | sdakota | braniff: 'k' ? For KDE? |
| 19:08.54 | *** join/#debian blazefx__ (n=blaze@71.143.215.32) |
| 19:08.55 | cheal | !tell digitalbit about ngd |
| 19:08.56 | blazefx__ | Hey all |
| 19:08.58 | sdakota | braniff: No, I'm searching for a console one |
| 19:09.11 | *** join/#debian hid3 (i=9731@ip-82-135-220-4.static.vkt.lt) |
| 19:09.12 | braniff | tin ? |
| 19:09.21 | cheal | digitalbit: notice that the document talks about non-free and contrib sources |
| 19:09.25 | PerfDave | digitalbit: Sounds like you need non-free sources |
| 19:09.26 | blazefx__ | if when I try to apt-get install gaim and I get an error like " unable to create `./usr/lib/menu/gaim': Read-only file system" it is probably a problem with my fstab right? |
| 19:09.32 | debiankid | nvz how can i install the bloodbot ? |
| 19:09.35 | sdakota | braniff: I'm currently trying Gnus |
| 19:09.36 | PerfDave | digitalbit: /msg dpkg non-free |
| 19:09.39 | *** join/#debian valdyn (n=valdyn@cl-38.muc-02.de.sixxs.net) |
| 19:09.42 | MoRLoCh | sdakita: try tin or slrn |
| 19:10.12 | MoRLoCh | sdakota, sorry |
| 19:10.18 | *** part/#debian lindenle (n=lindenle@ppp-70-225-167-100.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) |
| 19:10.28 | sdakota | MoRLoCh: Okay, I'll try those |
| 19:11.03 | Aronofsky | hi, I got a small problem with emule web interface and iptables rules , the interface works on localhost but not from the internet , I just defined a nat rule on my firewall to redirect 4711 port like this : "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i ppp0 --dport 4711 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.2" , its maybe not enough ? |
| 19:11.35 | *** part/#debian braniff (n=asdfasdf@unaffiliated/braniff) |
| 19:12.08 | MrRio | PerfDave: so i DO need to write a makefile for this python game? even tho this will make the package differ from the one upstream? |
| 19:12.44 | *** join/#debian florin-_- (n=florin@host150-201.pool870.interbusiness.it) |
| 19:12.54 | PerfDave | MrRio: I didn't say that. I have no idea about Python, I don't use it. But makefiles are not necessarily related to compilation. |
| 19:13.21 | MrRio | PerfDave, ok |
| 19:13.27 | *** join/#debian ejk (n=ejk@unaffiliated/ejk) |
| 19:14.29 | *** join/#debian Shadowcat (i=Ecto@c-145f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 19:14.38 | *** join/#debian usn (n=usn@p54B5C7ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:15.17 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (n=mike@71.225.116.133) |
| 19:15.23 | *** join/#debian akrus (i=akrus@194.67.54.202) |
| 19:15.26 | akrus | hello |
| 19:15.29 | *** join/#debian _avdi (n=avdi@216.108.203.126) |
| 19:15.37 | akrus | hello |
| 19:15.41 | akrus | I need some help :) |
| 19:15.48 | akrus | I have Dual Xeon 2.8 (em64t) |
| 19:15.55 | ke6isf | !tell akrus -about enter |
| 19:16.01 | *** join/#debian ejk (n=ejk@unaffiliated/ejk) |
| 19:16.07 | akrus | which version of debian I need to download to enable x86_64 support? |
| 19:16.29 | *** part/#debian hoerup (n=hoerup@62.61.134.88.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 19:16.55 | PerfDave | akrus: em64t is an amd64 derivative, isn't it? /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 19:16.56 | Aronofsky | anyone about my iptables problem ? |
| 19:17.16 | *** join/#debian devin (n=devin@69-172-40-18.frdrmd.adelphia.net) |
| 19:17.16 | florin-_- | can anyone help me with an acpi power off problem? |
| 19:17.20 | blazefx__ | if when I try to apt-get install gaim and I get an error like " unable to create `./usr/lib/menu/gaim': Read-only file system" it is probably a problem with my fstab right? |
| 19:17.22 | ke6isf | !tell florin-_- -about anyone |
| 19:17.27 | akrus | PerfDave: thanks :) |
| 19:17.39 | ke6isf | !tell florin-_- -about ask |
| 19:17.42 | PerfDave | blazefx__: Is your filesystem read-only? |
| 19:18.13 | devin | what app is it that makes it easier to install deb files? any of you know off hand |
| 19:18.21 | *** join/#debian Aghaster (n=Aghaster@modemcable240.73-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 19:18.27 | PerfDave | devin: apt-get ? |
| 19:18.28 | ke6isf | devin: apt-get |
| 19:18.45 | akrus | PerfDave: will it also support x86, not 64 apps? |
| 19:18.53 | devin | no |
| 19:19.04 | ke6isf | devin: You have a .deb file? |
| 19:19.23 | PerfDave | akrus: Maybe |
| 19:19.25 | devin | crystal_0.9.9-1_i386.deb |
| 19:19.34 | Aronofsky | the thing i dont understand is that i got the following rule "DNAT tcp -- ppp0 any anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:4711 to:192.168.0.2" and when i try to acess my server like this with firefoxw http://url:4711 , the number of packets associates with the rule remains 0 ! |
| 19:19.48 | PerfDave | akrus: Some 32-bit applications will run in a chroot, others will Just Work using the 32-bit emulation libraries. |
| 19:19.56 | akrus | okay |
| 19:19.57 | akrus | thanks |
| 19:19.58 | ke6isf | devin: 'dpkg -i filename.deb' is pretty danged easy. |
| 19:20.06 | ke6isf | devin: If it complains about dependencies, install them. |
| 19:20.15 | Aghaster | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4y6p4U48.html i have this error message at each time i log in |
| 19:20.22 | ke6isf | devin: It ain't rocket science. |
| 19:20.32 | obscuresoul | the ppp package should only be installed if i have an ISP? |
| 19:20.40 | *** join/#debian yure (n=yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si) |
| 19:20.40 | Aghaster | was anyone able to fix that annoying problem with xorg and foreign keyboard layouts |
| 19:20.42 | Aghaster | ? |
| 19:20.49 | Aghaster | there are tons of people reporting this problem |
| 19:20.56 | devin | debian:/home/devin# dpkg -i crystal_0.9.9-1_i386.deb |
| 19:20.56 | devin | dpkg: error processing crystal_0.9.9-1_i386.deb (--install): |
| 19:20.56 | devin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.57 | blazefx__ | PerfDave it shouldn't be |
| 19:21.02 | Aghaster | but nobody seems to have found a good solution |
| 19:21.03 | devin | kept giving me that |
| 19:21.09 | *** join/#debian mdo (n=13h7@p508A2E30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:21.24 | ke6isf | devin: OK, then the file does not exist in your present working directory. |
| 19:21.37 | PerfDave | blazefx__: Well, is it? |
| 19:21.40 | blazefx__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.47 | devin | ok ok i |
| 19:21.59 | PerfDave | blazefx__: So your filesystem is read-only :) |
| 19:22.01 | ke6isf | devin: BTW, please don't flood the channel. |
| 19:22.08 | blazefx__ | ahh thats what the RO is |
| 19:22.09 | devin | oh sorry |
| 19:22.09 | blazefx__ | lol |
| 19:22.23 | PerfDave | blazefx__: What Linux distribution are you running? |
| 19:22.32 | blazefx__ | debian |
| 19:22.34 | blazefx__ | 3.1 |
| 19:22.36 | blazefx__ | stable |
| 19:22.39 | PerfDave | blazefx__: Not Ubuntu or anything? |
| 19:22.40 | devin | well i figured it out, thanks for ur help |
| 19:22.42 | blazefx__ | nope |
| 19:22.49 | ke6isf | !tell blazefx__ -about enter |
| 19:23.01 | ke6isf | ...glad to help |
| 19:23.10 | PerfDave | blazefx__: Hmm, just wondering where that "nodev" came from |
| 19:23.24 | *** join/#debian Shadda (i=shadda@carbonix.us) |
| 19:23.57 | blazefx__ | PerfDave , the securing debian manual lol |
| 19:24.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 515] by debhelper |
| 19:24.01 | *** join/#debian Mariele (n=Mariele@ool-182c4580.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:24.04 | Shadda | Hey guys...Any of you know a good commandline utility (or technique, for that matter) to determine what's hogging up so much disk space? |
| 19:24.12 | blazefx__ | ps! |
| 19:24.17 | *** join/#debian Palithius (n=Pali@h-67-101-125-144.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 19:24.23 | sdakota | Can tin download too? |
| 19:24.47 | MoRLoCh | Shadda: du -sh / will give you the first hint |
| 19:24.55 | blazefx__ | PerfDave , how do i restart my fstab? |
| 19:25.01 | roxy_ | I am trying to get alsa working. I want to know if the kernel found the sound card. |
| 19:25.09 | PerfDave | blazefx__: What do you mean? fstab is a file, you can't "restart" a file. |
| 19:25.11 | ke6isf | MoRLoCh: It won't give you each directory. |
| 19:25.13 | Shadda | MoRLoCh, that's what I've been using, but it lists way too much info |
| 19:25.16 | roxy_ | what expression can I give to grep to filter dmesg? |
| 19:25.21 | blazefx__ | I mean, remount my partitions |
| 19:25.25 | *** join/#debian vomitflig (n=kvirc@p549FF259.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:25.26 | PerfDave | roxy_: How do you want to filter it? |
| 19:25.27 | ke6isf | Shadda: Try 'du -h --max-depth=1 /' instead. |
| 19:25.30 | MoRLoCh | ke6isf: sure, it's the first hint :) |
| 19:25.33 | blazefx__ | because I made a change, i deleted the ro, and now i want my apt-get to work |
| 19:25.35 | Shadda | max-depth, ah hah |
| 19:25.41 | Shadda | I've been using -S flag |
| 19:25.51 | roxy_ | PerfDave: dmesg | grep whateverexpressioin |
| 19:25.55 | ke6isf | MoRLoCh: Not really. She knows that something is eating up disk space. That will tell her the exact same thing - it's not very useful. |
| 19:26.04 | PerfDave | roxy_: Yes |
| 19:26.18 | PerfDave | blazefx__: mount -o remount,rw /usr |
| 19:26.27 | Shadda | bloody huge cache, that's where I should have looked to begin with |
| 19:26.35 | roxy_ | PerfDave: what expression would all sound card use. I tried sound but no output |
| 19:26.36 | MoRLoCh | ke6isf: hehe ok |
| 19:26.38 | ke6isf | Shadda: 'apt-get clean' |
| 19:26.44 | Shadda | aye :) |
| 19:26.47 | Palithius | How can I know when I have used too many network handles? the default limit is 1024 |
| 19:26.53 | Shadda | 2.6g cache heh |
| 19:27.00 | ke6isf | Shadda: =O.O= |
| 19:27.04 | priscila | how can i use a gpg key with gmail without using a mail client (like evolution, etc)? |
| 19:27.11 | PerfDave | roxy_: Why not just look through the file with "less"? It's not very big. |
| 19:27.15 | ke6isf | priscila: Read the gmail faq. |
| 19:28.06 | Shadda | and why the hell does mysql have a 500mb logfile...I don't even *use* that pos |
| 19:28.14 | *** join/#debian Hackel (n=hackel@CPE-69-76-5-54.mn.res.rr.com) |
| 19:28.21 | Shadda | grumble...haven't been paying attention to this thing. It's a cry for help, is what it is |
| 19:28.21 | *** part/#debian ke6isf (i=ke6isf@hibachi.chez-vrolet.net) |
| 19:28.28 | *** join/#debian ke6isf (i=ke6isf@hibachi.chez-vrolet.net) |
| 19:28.36 | ke6isf | Shadda: 'apt-get remove mysql'? |
| 19:28.42 | ke6isf | ...damn C-w |
| 19:28.47 | *** join/#debian jayr168 (n=jayr168@203.177.243.33) |
| 19:30.03 | roxy_ | PerfDave: true. then the second question is. If in dmesg there is no trace of my sound card and alsamixer return snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device. Is there any hope? |
| 19:30.12 | *** join/#debian auk (n=scott@h-69-3-211-36.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 19:31.03 | *** join/#debian xdr (n=xdr@c83-248-49-117.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 19:31.45 | *** join/#debian Jo (n=JoCat@hltp-c-067.resnet.purdue.edu) |
| 19:31.46 | PerfDave | roxy_: If dmesg doesn't show your sound card, it implies that the kernel isn't recognising it. |
| 19:31.53 | priscila | roxy_: is your kernel compiled with alsa sound support? |
| 19:31.54 | jelly | Is there a way to find out how much a file on ext3 is fragmented? My partition is at 99% usage and I suspect the new files get quite fragmented... |
| 19:32.01 | PerfDave | roxy_: If the kernel isn't recognising it, I doubt that alsa will be able to find it. |
| 19:32.08 | Jo | Ahoy all. |
| 19:32.11 | *** join/#debian kfo (n=kfo@117.80-202-230.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:32.22 | PerfDave | roxy_: Are you sure the soundcard itself is working? What soundcard is it? |
| 19:32.37 | *** join/#debian dukebody (n=Elive_us@87.223.148.192) |
| 19:32.38 | Jo | None of my keyboards are recognized in the Debian install. |
| 19:32.43 | Jo | PS/2 or USB. |
| 19:32.59 | Jo | Google doesn't help much. |
| 19:33.14 | pdbogen | jelly : I don't know about detecting, but there's a package called 'defrag' that will defragment ext2. Don't know if it makes a difference that you're on journalling, though. |
| 19:33.17 | Thug-N-Me | where are this " MX records? located ( You need to edit the MX records of your domains DNS ) |
| 19:33.17 | PerfDave | Jo: How are you typing if your keyboard isn't recognised? ;) |
| 19:33.29 | Jo | I'm running on a different machine. |
| 19:33.32 | PerfDave | Thug-N-Me: They're located in the Domain Name System. |
| 19:33.43 | PerfDave | Jo: OK, how did you install Debian if your keyboards weren't recognised? |
| 19:33.46 | Jo | It works long enough for me to type: linux and hit enter. |
| 19:33.47 | jayr168 | how do I disable automatic downloading of updates and packacges in debian 3.1 |
| 19:33.50 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : An MX record is a type of DNS record that directs the delivery of mail. |
| 19:34.03 | Thug-N-Me | PerfDave hmm :))) no clue |
| 19:34.07 | Jo | My laptop has debian. I'm installing this on a deskto. |
| 19:34.12 | Jo | *desktop |
| 19:34.20 | Thug-N-Me | pdbogen where do i need to edit it ? where exactlly |
| 19:34.22 | pdbogen | Jo: It's very strange that a PS/2 keyboard isn't working. |
| 19:34.25 | Jo | Agreed. |
| 19:34.28 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : That depends on the DNS server you're running. |
| 19:34.34 | pdbogen | Jo: Does it work in BIOS or in another OS? |
| 19:34.35 | PerfDave | Jo: OK. Do you know that the PS/2 keyboard and motherboard connector are both working, and that the Debian install medium is good? |
| 19:34.39 | *** part/#debian florin-_- (n=florin@host150-201.pool870.interbusiness.it) |
| 19:34.39 | Jo | I've tried upgrading the bios. |
| 19:34.41 | Thug-N-Me | pdbogen well im not running any dns server |
| 19:34.47 | Thug-N-Me | pdbogen do i need to ? |
| 19:34.48 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : Then you clearly can't change the DNS records. |
| 19:34.54 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : It likely wouldn't do you any good. |
| 19:35.09 | Jo | And yes. I tested the PS/2 port. It works well enough for me to type in the install instructions. |
| 19:35.19 | PerfDave | Jo: I've heard of USB keyboards not working, often you need to enable a "USB legacy" option in the BIOS which tells the BIOS to treat the USB keyboard as a PS/2 one. |
| 19:35.24 | Thug-N-Me | pdbogen so i dont need to run my own dns server ... :) ok thanks |
| 19:35.27 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : Assumably you have some domain name that you bought and paid for. You need to contact whomever you did that through and get them to adjust the MX record. |
| 19:35.28 | *** join/#debian Paula99 (n=Paula99@200.121.133.86) |
| 19:35.38 | Jo | I've been looking for that option. Is there another name for "Legacy USB?" |
| 19:35.41 | pdbogen | Jo: Are you using the newest install media available? |
| 19:35.44 | Jo | Yes. |
| 19:35.53 | Jo | And I downloaded it twice to make sure the data was good. |
| 19:35.56 | PerfDave | Jo: Depends on the BIOS. |
| 19:36.03 | Jo | Reflashed 10 minutes ago. |
| 19:36.05 | PerfDave | Jo: Did you check the MD5SUM? That's much better than downloading it twice. |
| 19:36.10 | Jo | Yes. |
| 19:36.13 | Jo | Checks out. |
| 19:36.16 | Thug-N-Me | pdbogen well i buy my donaim from mydomain.com and i only set it to point to my ip thats all |
| 19:36.19 | *** join/#debian Trigger13 (n=Trigger@p54A7C064.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:36.35 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : All you need to do is make sure that the MX record points to your IP as well. |
| 19:36.38 | PerfDave | Jo: Which install medium are you using? |
| 19:36.40 | Jo | I've also tried two different media forms: the net install and the first cd. |
| 19:36.53 | blazefx__ | Hey all, I am a bit confused as to which partitions I should mount read-only. I want my laptop to be as safe-as-possible, and I will not be using it for any server related tasks. |
| 19:36.55 | Thug-N-Me | pdbogen you thing they provide a control center for MX records |
| 19:37.06 | Jo | I've also tried Ubuntu, net and fullcd. |
| 19:37.07 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : I don't know. |
| 19:37.12 | Jo | They give me the same problem. |
| 19:37.13 | PerfDave | Jo: Are you installing the stable branch, or the testing branch? |
| 19:37.17 | Jo | Stable. |
| 19:37.18 | *** join/#debian jeanseb (i=jeanseb@wnpgmb01dc2-32-127.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 19:37.19 | pdbogen | Jo: Tried any Live CDs? |
| 19:37.26 | Thug-N-Me | pdbogen i will have a look ... and what if i dont make MX record points to my ip ? |
| 19:37.41 | Jo | Knoppix and Auditor liveCDs work. |
| 19:37.52 | Jo | But I haven't tried Ubuntu liveCDs. |
| 19:37.52 | jeanseb | Hello, I have hal and pmount installed but I cannot get my usb key to be mounted |
| 19:37.55 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : If the MX record points to some other address, any email sent to user@your.domain.com will go to that other IP address. |
| 19:37.59 | PerfDave | Jo: Have you tried the 2.4 kernel or the 2.6 kernel? |
| 19:38.05 | Jo | 2.6. |
| 19:38.12 | pdbogen | Jo: You might try the other one, then. |
| 19:38.21 | Jo | I'll give that a shot. Thanks. |
| 19:38.34 | Jo | Also, as for other names for "Legacy USB..." |
| 19:38.35 | *** join/#debian mijndert (n=mijndert@i172108.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 19:38.41 | Jo | Any general guesses? |
| 19:38.45 | Thug-N-Me | pdbogen i see . do you know zoneedit.com ? |
| 19:38.51 | pdbogen | Thug-N-Me : No. |
| 19:39.18 | quadrata | jo, care to try another LiveCD for me? ;) |
| 19:39.20 | Thug-N-Me | pdbogen ok thank you |
| 19:39.46 | pdbogen | Jo: It might not be necessary with a relatively recent BIOS.. If the USB keyboard lets you, e.g., manipulate the BIOS config, you should be fine. |
| 19:39.46 | Jo | Sure. |
| 19:39.46 | roxy_ | priscila, PerfDave : sound support is in the kernel 2.6.8 kernel. |
| 19:39.47 | quadrata | jo, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/livecd/downloads/ |
| 19:39.56 | PerfDave | roxy_: Certainly Debian's 2.6.8 kernel-image packages for Sarge have ALSA support. |
| 19:39.58 | Jo | Not found. |
| 19:40.03 | jayr168 | how to I control permission and file acces to certain user in debian 3.1 |
| 19:40.08 | quadrata | jo, whoops, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/livecd/download.html |
| 19:40.11 | *** part/#debian digitalbit (n=digitalb@80.172.10.48) |
| 19:40.13 | jayr168 | how to I control permission and file acces to certain user in debian 3.1? |
| 19:40.14 | PerfDave | jayr168: chmod, chown |
| 19:40.39 | PerfDave | roxy_: What soundcard are you trying to use? Is it ISA or PCI? Do you know whether it works elsewhere? Is it supported by ALSA? |
| 19:40.44 | *** join/#debian Alex_BO (n=alex@adsl-ull-116-223.51-151.net24.it) |
| 19:40.47 | jeanseb | pdbogen? |
| 19:41.03 | pdbogen | jeanseb : ? |
| 19:41.17 | pdbogen | Oh, okay. :) |
| 19:41.21 | pdbogen | Mischan. |
| 19:41.28 | Jo | Oh! And for the record, the keyboard fails after the USB modprobe. |
| 19:41.35 | jayr168 | what do I do with chmod? example the user name is guest123 |
| 19:41.35 | jeanseb | pdbogen: I cannot access my usb key with debian 3.1. Nothing happens when I plug it |
| 19:41.39 | jayr168 | what do I do with chmod? example the user name is guest123? |
| 19:41.40 | roxy_ | PerfDave: how can I have information about the sound card? it is very small laptop(no floppy, cdrom drive) |
| 19:41.45 | pdbogen | jeanseb: Okay. Thank you for telling me. |
| 19:41.48 | Jo | I tried passing arguments to stop the USB check, but that didn't work. |
| 19:41.54 | pdbogen | jayr168 : man chmod |
| 19:42.08 | PerfDave | roxy_: OK, do you know what laptop model it is? Have you checked it out on http://tuxmobil.org/ or http://www.linux-laptops.net/ ? |
| 19:42.16 | roxy_ | PerfDave: and I bought it in japan, the doc is all in japanese :-( |
| 19:42.19 | PerfDave | roxy_: If it's a PCI soundcard, it may show up with "lspci" |
| 19:42.25 | quadrata | jo, what kind of keyboard is it? |
| 19:42.53 | PerfDave | Jo: I can't think of any sensible reason for your problems short of a motherboard issue, I'm afraid. |
| 19:42.54 | Jo | The three I tried are aUSB GateWay media keyboard, a USB QuietKey, and a PS2 Dell Media Keyboard. |
| 19:43.06 | PerfDave | Jo: It may be worth just doing a memcheck or similar to check your RAM. |
| 19:43.13 | Jo | Okay. |
| 19:43.13 | PerfDave | s/memcheck/memtest/ |
| 19:43.14 | *** join/#debian Nodey (n=Znode@wikipedia/Znode) |
| 19:43.21 | roxy_ | PerfDave: here it is: http://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/interlink/xp/3210/ |
| 19:43.24 | ecolinux | hello there are fvwm user?? |
| 19:43.27 | Jo | Thanks everyone. I'll give that a shot. |
| 19:43.35 | jeanseb | pdbogen? |
| 19:43.41 | jayr168 | is there a GUI for that in KDE or Gnome? |
| 19:43.41 | Jo | I might be back. |
| 19:43.58 | pdbogen | jeanseb: Yes? |
| 19:44.12 | PerfDave | roxy_: That's nice, have you checked it out on those websites I mentioned? |
| 19:44.24 | jeanseb | pdbogen: how do I access my usb key in debian 3.1? Automount and stuff... |
| 19:44.28 | pdbogen | jayr168 : Gnome's nautilus should be able to do it. |
| 19:44.32 | pdbogen | jeanseb: I do not know. |
| 19:44.48 | jeanseb | is florin -_- still here? |
| 19:44.49 | *** join/#debian boudewijn36 (n=boudewij@3E33A24F.dslaccess.aol.com) |
| 19:45.04 | ecolinux | fvwm?? |
| 19:45.11 | zerodni | hey guys has anyone here got selinux working well on debian |
| 19:45.13 | pdbogen | ~tell ecolinux about ask |
| 19:45.21 | *** part/#debian Nodey (n=Znode@wikipedia/Znode) |
| 19:45.26 | ecolinux | nobody?? |
| 19:45.35 | PerfDave | ecolinux: /msg dpkg smart questions |
| 19:45.36 | ecolinux | ok |
| 19:45.38 | pdbogen | ecolinux : Why are you taking a survey? |
| 19:45.41 | jayr168 | i mean if I want to give Guest123 root access to all files? |
| 19:45.48 | jayr168 | how do I do that in GUI mode |
| 19:46.07 | PerfDave | jayr168: Why would you want to give an account root access? It's a terribly bad idea. |
| 19:46.08 | ecolinux | i try to creat 10 buttons in title bar in one window |
| 19:46.25 | ecolinux | ans 6 are recognize |
| 19:46.28 | loggygreg | jayr168: use root instead (don't do that) |
| 19:46.42 | tonsxchat | jayr168: no |
| 19:46.50 | PerfDave | jayr168: What are you actually trying to achieve? |
| 19:46.51 | jayr168 | so that I can edit configuration files in my <user> account |
| 19:46.58 | tonsxchat | su |
| 19:46.58 | ecolinux | it is a limitation of fvwm?? |
| 19:47.03 | SlayerXP | jayr168: your have just failed your Internet Safety Test. Please return your AOL CD immediately and do not use a computer again unless supervised by a responsible adult. |
| 19:47.04 | *** join/#debian zerodni (n=zerodni@c-68-47-173-49.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 19:47.06 | *** join/#debian pbrunier (n=pbrunier@gnu/webmaster/pbrunier) |
| 19:47.36 | jayr168 | guys? |
| 19:47.47 | PerfDave | jayr168: OK, you really don't want to do that. |
| 19:47.57 | pdbogen | jayr168 : We're telling you that what you want to do is Wrong. Also, there is no way to do it like you want. |
| 19:48.06 | *** join/#debian dsl_ (n=dsl@roi-ff36c000-21.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 19:48.11 | roxy_ | PerfDave: I am reading the website, thanks for the link. One of the problem is, I think Victor is known as something else outside japan AND the model I got didn't make it outside japan, it was the first of the serie. |
| 19:48.15 | jayr168 | ohh sorry... |
| 19:48.19 | PerfDave | jayr168: What you want to do is log in with your normal account, then give yourself root privileges to edit these files, for as little time as possible. |
| 19:48.29 | tonsxchat | su |
| 19:48.32 | tonsxchat | or sudo |
| 19:48.41 | jayr168 | if I su root |
| 19:48.52 | PerfDave | jayr168: If you must use the GUI, in KDE there's a menu option to run Konqueror in "Super-User Mode" which will then let you edit any configuration files in Kate or KWrite. |
| 19:49.42 | *** join/#debian Nurbs (i=tom@p50895F1D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:50.37 | *** join/#debian user_ (n=user@p5084EEAB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:50.53 | *** join/#debian streuner (n=streuner@p54A5FDC4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:51.00 | jeanseb | pdbogen: what if I send you the log when I plug my usb key? |
| 19:51.40 | pdbogen | Then you'll have sent me information I don't need, and I still won't know how to make Debian do what you want it to do. |
| 19:51.54 | *** join/#debian jaguarito (n=jaguarit@200.193.47.184) |
| 19:53.22 | roxy_ | PerfDave: I found it. It is called JVC: audio is pcm16 bit : http://www.kemplar.com/jvc_741.php#Buy |
| 19:53.44 | *** part/#debian akrus (i=akrus@194.67.54.202) |
| 19:53.45 | PerfDave | roxy_: Sweet :) |
| 19:54.00 | *** join/#debian alphaKid (n=eyang@202.59.168.5) |
| 19:54.38 | user_ | Hello, |
| 19:54.38 | user_ | I have a problem with a kernel I made in this order: |
| 19:54.38 | user_ | http://rafb.net/paste/results/DoHeTY65.html |
| 19:54.47 | user_ | when I Try to boot, the kernel stops at Init 2 in line: |
| 19:54.48 | user_ | starting doemon : syslog (or something else) |
| 19:54.48 | user_ | hase anyone an idea ? |
| 19:55.25 | *** join/#debian Greatred|Home (n=greatred@alxpc1jsb8.alx.aber.ac.uk) |
| 19:55.47 | ke6isf | !tell user_ -about enter |
| 19:55.53 | ke6isf | !tell user_ -about flood |
| 19:55.56 | roxy_ | PerfDave: mine is actually a bit older. |
| 19:56.01 | *** join/#debian eth000 (i=jonathan@host131-178.pool80104.interbusiness.it) |
| 19:56.09 | roxy_ | but the sound card should be the same family in'it |
| 19:56.15 | roxy_ | ? |
| 19:56.15 | PerfDave | user_: Why are you compiling and not just using a kernel-image package? |
| 19:56.15 | *** join/#debian PPC (i=OMGSEMPR@ip68-110-20-182.om.om.cox.net) |
| 19:56.30 | jayr168 | how do I disable sutomatic downloading of packages and updates? |
| 19:56.35 | delmar | PerfDave, u have got to be joking. |
| 19:56.39 | *** part/#debian nailbiter (n=foobar@c220-237-138-160.eburwd1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 19:56.49 | nkuttler | jayr168: what are you talking about? |
| 19:56.49 | *** join/#debian mariomw (n=mario@62.93.41.73) |
| 19:57.04 | PerfDave | jayr168: Automatic downloading of packages and updates only happens if you set something up to do so, so merely disable whatever it was that you set up. |
| 19:57.08 | nkuttler | jayr168: nothing like that happens automatically by default |
| 19:57.16 | *** part/#debian mariomw (n=mario@62.93.41.73) |
| 19:57.18 | jayr168 | if I use apt-get install package.deb |
| 19:57.19 | user_ | PerfDave, I want to run an PCI- PCMCIA Adapter on my Desktop |
| 19:57.40 | delmar | PerfDave, yep lets just all run the packaged kernels from the sources.. full of bloat. the whole point is to be able to compile your own custom kernel with only the stuff u want or extras that arent there, and compile a nice tight kernel. |
| 19:57.42 | *** join/#debian faw (n=felipe@unaffiliated/faw) |
| 19:57.42 | nkuttler | jayr168: man apt-get, search for simulate |
| 19:57.47 | *** join/#debian kristiank (n=christia@AToulouse-157-1-40-217.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:57.51 | jayr168 | if debian cant find it in one of my cd's it download it from http |
| 19:57.53 | delmar | PerfDave, pre-packed kernels are for n00bs. |
| 19:58.00 | pdbogen | delmar : The issue is that if you can't do it yourself you're probably better off using a packaged kernel. |
| 19:58.09 | PerfDave | delmar: Pre-packaged kernels aren't bloated. They're nice and modular. |
| 19:58.11 | user_ | PerfDave, its an Orinoco PCI-Adapter PCI-33W |
| 19:58.18 | quadrata | delmar, by that argument, you could say all binary distributions are for n00bs |
| 19:58.29 | PerfDave | quadrata: GENTOO!!!! -O1337! |
| 19:58.33 | quadrata | heh |
| 19:58.57 | PerfDave | delmar: Pre-packaged kernels are for n00bs, then people go through a few months of pain compiling their own kernels, then they wise up and go back to pre-packaged kernels ;) |
| 19:59.04 | weasel00 | quandry, so if i dont program all the code myself, i am n00b? |
| 19:59.19 | quadrata | PerfDave, that's not exactly true either ;) |
| 19:59.20 | PerfDave | weasel00: Yeah, I pissed my kernel out after a night drinking coffee ;) |
| 19:59.32 | ke6isf | weasel00: Real Hackers don't program. They write raw, unadorned machine code. |
| 19:59.37 | delmar | quadrata, thats VERY different, and your comparison is quite stupid |
| 20:00.00 | delmar | PerfDave, ive compiled my own kernel since I started using linux in 1995. |
| 20:00.02 | quadrata | delmar, not trying to start a flame, I see |
| 20:00.02 | PerfDave | user_: Is it not supported by the Debian-provided kernel-images? |
| 20:00.17 | *** join/#debian ufoalien (n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch) |
| 20:00.20 | PerfDave | delmar: Yes, but you're clearly an idiot with a chip on their shoulder. |
| 20:00.31 | ke6isf | !PerfDave++ |
| 20:00.41 | weasel00 | perfdave, canwe not start with the name calling? |
| 20:01.00 | quadrata | weasel00, he's not alone in it |
| 20:01.05 | PerfDave | weasel00: I wasn't starting, I was responding to delmar accusing people of being idiots for disagreeing with him :) |
| 20:01.07 | delmar | PerfDave, nope. I just don't like to see people have the wool pulled over their eyes and told to use a pre-packaged kernel rather then spend the time and learn how to compile their own. |
| 20:01.10 | *** join/#debian florin-_- (n=florin@host24-137.pool8256.interbusiness.it) |
| 20:01.30 | *** join/#debian pngwen (n=pngwen@c-68-52-165-61.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 20:01.37 | *** join/#debian Glenn^BF (n=Glenn@user-85-201-7-100.tvcablenet.be) |
| 20:01.41 | ke6isf | delmar: OK, tell me this, why in blazes do I need to compile my own? Last time I did, I stripped it down, and there was absolutely no noticeable difference in performance, so give me one good reason to do so. |
| 20:01.42 | delmar | PerfDave, i never called anyone an idiot.. at most I said quadrata's comparison was stupid. |
| 20:01.54 | quadrata | delmar, again, that argument could apply to all open-source, not just the kernel |
| 20:02.08 | ejk | I agree with ke6isf, there's no point unless you really need to. |
| 20:02.17 | PerfDave | delmar: I'm not pulling the wool over anybody's eyes. The vast majority of users don't need to compile a kernel to get the functionality they need, thanks to Debian providing stripped-down and modular kernel-images. Insisting that "the whole point" is to compile a kernel is insisting on unnecessary extra layers of complication and insecurity. |
| 20:02.23 | quadrata | delmar, btw, if you really read what I said you'd see I'm not entirely against your view. ;) |
| 20:02.40 | Thug-N-Me | will the mail server will still work if i block the external acces to my SMTP port 25 ? |
| 20:02.54 | Thug-N-Me | i followed this guide http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix |
| 20:02.55 | user_ | PerfDave, I'm not sure. I don't have enough experience with linux/debian. It's hard for me to follow the install- instructions in the readme, shipped withe the Cards |
| 20:02.55 | Thug-N-Me | :) |
| 20:03.12 | PerfDave | Thug-N-Me: Define "still work". People won't be able to access it externally *g* |
| 20:03.16 | ke6isf | Thug-N-Me: If you block 25, yeah, it'll work, but you just won't receive any mail. |
| 20:03.19 | pngwen | I had to recompile my kernel because the stock one had options that made my laptop's hardware freak out. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't have |
| 20:03.23 | ke6isf | Thug-N-Me: ...at least, not from outside. |
| 20:03.25 | weasel00 | thug : you wont be able to connect remotely on 25 to reci... bah! |
| 20:03.32 | delmar | ke6isf, depends on the situation. what if you were running an embedded system or tiny linux, or linux on a floppy? you would want to customize it. what about stability? stripping all the useless crap out of a kernel gives me alot of confidence .. should issues arise.. I can be confident its not the kernel. |
| 20:03.38 | Thug-N-Me | ke6isf ohh i see |
| 20:03.40 | PerfDave | user_: Have you tried just plugging it in and seeing whether it's recognised by the standard Debian kernels? |
| 20:03.52 | nkuttler | delmar: that would not be debian, would it? |
| 20:03.54 | *** join/#debian beleys (n=beleys@62.94.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 20:03.55 | *** part/#debian jeanseb (i=jeanseb@wnpgmb01dc2-32-127.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 20:04.00 | pdbogen | delmar : We aren't talking about special cases or what to do during troubleshooting.. |
| 20:04.11 | *** join/#debian Dibbler (n=Dibbler@zidane.pi-net.net) |
| 20:04.12 | PerfDave | delmar: With a Debian kernel, the "useless crap" isn't loaded, so you don't have that stability "issue". |
| 20:04.24 | *** join/#debian DJ-Marcuzz (n=root@84-245-14-199.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 20:04.31 | delmar | PerfDave, if you say so. |
| 20:04.50 | ke6isf | delmar: Since I have no plans on doing any of those other applications, I have no need, and from what I've seen, aside from a single hardware problem (power supply failures), the kernel hasn't given me any trouble whatsoever. So I'm still waiting for a good reason, not hypothetical scenarios turned straw man arguments. |
| 20:04.57 | weasel00 | useless crap <-- relative term -) |
| 20:05.02 | delmar | I will conceed that alot of the time a pre-packaged kernel is super convenient. |
| 20:05.16 | orjan | Does rdesktop support rdp5.2 ( from the sp1 update to w2k3)? |
| 20:05.37 | ke6isf | delmar: And keep in mind, too, that in order to stip anything I consider useless out, I simply have to remove it from the boot time list and rmmod. |
| 20:05.52 | *** join/#debian slocate (n=slocate@pool-162-84-143-186.ny5030.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:06.02 | *** join/#debian jaguarito (n=jaguarit@200.193.47.184) |
| 20:06.03 | ke6isf | delmar: That said, if you want to BYO Kernel, knock yourself out. |
| 20:06.42 | *** join/#debian cge (n=costi@ip68-7-203-197.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 20:06.54 | jelly | orjan: btw, what features does rdp 5.2 provide? |
| 20:07.22 | cge | Any ideas as to how to kill a process (usb from cupsys) that won't die with kill -9, without restarting? |
| 20:07.41 | Matt-H | orjan: I can connect to w2k3-sp1 machines with rdesktop fine |
| 20:08.01 | user_ | PerfDave, I plugged in the PCI and the WLAN-Card and then installed Debian(Kernel 2.4.27) completely new. |
| 20:08.07 | orjan | jelly: not sure, nothing i need really, only I want updates to terminal server printing from sp1 |
| 20:08.15 | user_ | lsmode does not show me the pcmcia |
| 20:08.31 | PerfDave | user_: "lsmode"? |
| 20:08.34 | ke6isf | cge: Using sarge with a 2.6.8 kernel? |
| 20:08.35 | orjan | Matt-H: do you have sp1 installed |
| 20:08.50 | Matt-H | orjan: on the remote machine, yes - hence "w2k3-sp1" |
| 20:08.51 | user_ | lsmod, sorry |
| 20:08.53 | cge | ke6isf: No, sid with 2.6.12 |
| 20:09.00 | pdbogen | user_: Just for posterity, you realize that it's almost certainly CardBus and not PCMCIA, right? |
| 20:09.00 | ke6isf | *fold* |
| 20:09.24 | orjan | Matt-H: duh, didn't read ....thanks |
| 20:09.34 | PerfDave | user_: So this is a PCI card which presents a PCMCIA/CardBus interface for another device? |
| 20:09.41 | pdbogen | cge: If kill -9 doesn't do it, it's uninterruptibly blocked. |
| 20:09.50 | delmar | I see Debian is still a few kernel revisions behind with its pre-packaged kernels vs available kernel. |
| 20:09.53 | jelly | orjan: hm, I had printer forwarding working, but I'm not sure if it was before SP1 or after. |
| 20:10.09 | *** join/#debian davor (n=davor@81-236-18-154-no39.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:10.10 | ke6isf | delmar: You don't use Debian, do you? |
| 20:10.14 | *** join/#debian dpm (n=Bernat@p54A11FC5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:10.20 | user_ | correkt. It's an PCI_Card, where you can pluggin a PCMCIA-Card |
| 20:10.31 | *** join/#debian jaguarito (n=jaguarit@200.193.47.184) |
| 20:10.33 | orjan | jelly: printer forwading is sp1 I think |
| 20:10.41 | PerfDave | user_: Does it show up in lspci? |
| 20:10.44 | *** join/#debian coz (n=coz@c-24-3-171-43.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 20:10.49 | coz | hello all |
| 20:10.52 | *** join/#debian Phlexonan (n=phlexona@85-124-22-198.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 20:10.54 | user_ | I try it |
| 20:11.03 | delmar | ke6isf, extensivly. |
| 20:11.05 | orjan | jelly: if it's the automatic one, before you had to set it up by hand |
| 20:11.13 | coz | I just installed debian sarge and cannot get sound for some applications like streamtuner |
| 20:11.28 | *** join/#debian pavlovsdog (n=jetscrea@ppp-70-242-3-182.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 20:11.34 | delmar | ke6isf, current available kernel is linux-2.6.15.5.. prepackaged kernel appears to be 2.6.15.1 |
| 20:11.35 | coz | the sound events work but as I am not expert with debian I came to see if I could get help here |
| 20:11.51 | pdbogen | delmar : That's really a pretty trivial difference.. |
| 20:11.52 | *** join/#debian TheBest (n=rcxnet@h19234.upc-h.chello.nl) |
| 20:12.07 | user_ | hm, yes |
| 20:12.07 | user_ | http://rafb.net/paste/results/UPTAAi24.htm |
| 20:12.16 | ke6isf | delmar: And since you use Debian, you should know why that condition, trivial though it be, exists. |
| 20:12.33 | ke6isf | delmar: That said, I'm done. You seem to be trolling, and I refuse to debate with trolls. *PLONK* |
| 20:12.40 | TheBest | how i upgrade mysql-server-4.1 to MySQL 5.0.18 |
| 20:12.57 | user_ | hm, and why can I not see the pcmcia- Card. |
| 20:12.59 | user_ | ? |
| 20:13.01 | delmar | pdbogen, a few months back it was a right pain in the butt. The pre-packaged kernel that I was using on a workstation was useless and wouldnt detect the temp sensors. I had to upgrade to 2.6.13 or better, which debian was not up to. |
| 20:13.08 | *** join/#debian ElectricElf (n=dbharris@debian/developer/dbharris) |
| 20:13.10 | SlayerXP | TheBest: start by reading the upgrade notes. |
| 20:13.17 | pdbogen | delmar : Did you try experimental? |
| 20:13.20 | Phlexonan | glftpd is too complicated for me, is there another (easier to configure and run) ftp server? |
| 20:13.20 | *** join/#debian cusco (i=oper@cpc2-swin6-0-0-cust997.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 20:13.26 | cusco | hi........ |
| 20:13.33 | *** join/#debian bazboo (n=bazboo@uop-11-136.pacific.edu) |
| 20:13.35 | pdbogen | Phlexonan : I like proftpd |
| 20:13.36 | ke6isf | Phlexonan: proftpd |
| 20:13.41 | delmar | pbrunier, sources were testing. |
| 20:13.44 | cusco | what would be the most commom reason for this php line? |
| 20:13.45 | cusco | Warning: mysql_connect(): Host 'cpc2-swin6-0-0-cust997.brhm.cable.ntl.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server in /home/cusco/public_html/phpBB2/db/mysql4.php on line 48 |
| 20:13.53 | TheBest | SlayerXP wher i must reading |
| 20:13.55 | cusco | is it my machine |
| 20:13.57 | *** part/#debian coz (n=coz@c-24-3-171-43.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 20:14.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 526] by debhelper |
| 20:14.01 | cusco | or the mysql server somewhere else? |
| 20:14.02 | delmar | ke6isf, trolling huh :P |
| 20:14.03 | bazboo | cusco: Might get phpmyadmin and check your configuration and shit. |
| 20:14.14 | Phlexonance | does proftpd have a gui for configuration and activity monitoring? |
| 20:14.15 | cusco | bazboo: mysql server is not on my machine |
| 20:14.17 | SlayerXP | cusco: at at guess, that host is not allowed to connect. |
| 20:14.20 | Eulex | delmar, the difference between 2.6.15.1 and 2.6.15.5 are just bug fixes. btw, what makes you think that the 2.6.15 kernel in debian is 2.6.15.1? |
| 20:14.21 | cusco | its like a free host thingie |
| 20:14.28 | cusco | hmm ok |
| 20:14.28 | PerfDave | user_: The lspci output tells us that the card is talking to the PCI bus, which is a good start. That doesn't mean that your kernel is recognising it, or that it has Linux drivers available. |
| 20:14.34 | cusco | thanks then |
| 20:14.37 | *** join/#debian George (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 20:14.37 | Phlexonance | pdbogen: does proftpd have a gui for configuration and activity monitoring? |
| 20:14.38 | *** join/#debian abrotman (n=abrotman@71.224.97.190) |
| 20:14.42 | George | how do you install gcc 3 on debian? |
| 20:14.47 | bazboo | cusco: Well then it's going to be troublesome because they usually only will let you connect from their own webserver for security reasons. |
| 20:14.49 | Phlexonance | ke6isf: does proftpd have a gui for configuration and activity monitoring? |
| 20:14.52 | George | if I install the gcc-3.3 package, I don't seem to have a gcc binary, only gcc-3.3 |
| 20:14.56 | bazboo | cusco: Otherwise it could be a bit too easy to hack. |
| 20:15.09 | *** join/#debian beyond (n=beyond@200-161-58-112.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 20:15.10 | ke6isf | Phlexonance: No, but for what it's worth, unless you need anonymous FTP, it Just Works, right out of the package. |
| 20:15.14 | pdbogen | Phlexonance : Does glftpd? |
| 20:15.19 | *** join/#debian Stevie (n=whatsit2@71.225.117.73) |
| 20:15.19 | pavlovsdog | because the short name of the package that gets installed is 2.6.5-1 |
| 20:15.20 | *** join/#debian cbc| (n=cbc@190.Red-80-25-248.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:15.20 | bazboo | George: Yeah that _is_ the binary. |
| 20:15.25 | cge | Ok, so then apart from ruining my uptime, when I restart my server being used as a router, eth1 doesn't come up. dnsmasq is running on that interface, and it is statically configured in /etc/network/interfaces with an auto eth1 line. |
| 20:15.37 | delmar | I will say tho.. debian in itself.. is generally a huge convenience in itself... and I don't have to many complaints.... I moved to it some years back from.. slakware.. man those were painful days.. everything compiled from source to get it to work.. no dependancy database.. lots of dependancy issues... man what a headache. |
| 20:15.40 | George | bazboo: erm. so how do I build programs which look for a 'gcc' binary? |
| 20:15.41 | bazboo | George: You can either set CC env. variable or make a link. |
| 20:15.41 | ke6isf | Phlexonance: If you really want a GUI config tool for your daemons, there's always Webmin, but...well, /msg dpkg webmin before you consider that option. |
| 20:15.44 | Phlexonance | pdbogen: no and thats one of the reasons I dont like it |
| 20:15.54 | pbrunier | delmar: Do I know you ? |
| 20:15.55 | bazboo | George: Vast majority of apps support $CC |
| 20:15.56 | *** join/#debian chance2105 (n=chance@ppp-70-243-123-147.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 20:16.00 | nkuttler | George: did it not add a symlink called gcc? |
| 20:16.02 | pdbogen | Phlexonance : I highly doubt you'll find a good Linux FTP server with a GUI configuration. |
| 20:16.12 | delmar | pbrunier I have no idea. do you? |
| 20:16.14 | *** join/#debian Sir_LeChucK (n=pupu@200-55-116-115.dsl.prima.net.ar) |
| 20:16.16 | pdbogen | Or a good Linux ____ server, for that matter. |
| 20:16.19 | Sir_LeChucK | hello #debian |
| 20:16.20 | nkuttler | George: if not, man update-alternatives or just ln |
| 20:16.24 | *** join/#debian dwar (n=dwar@tn-84-218-55-43.dsl.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:16.32 | Phlexonance | pdbogen: at least activity monitoring in gui? |
| 20:16.32 | bazboo | ke6isf: It's not a big deal, by default it only accepts connects from localhost, and when you're done you can uninstall. |
| 20:16.34 | pbrunier | delmar: I don't know you. You messaged me |
| 20:16.45 | *** part/#debian eraser (i=eraser@server.macsn.de) |
| 20:16.49 | bazboo | !tell delmar about privmsg |
| 20:16.50 | *** part/#debian fcn (n=fcn@88.240.96.226) |
| 20:16.53 | user_ | PerfDave, how can I determine that the kernel use the pci-card ? |
| 20:16.59 | pdbogen | Phlexonance : That'd a pretty big request, depending on what exactly you're talking about. |
| 20:17.04 | delmar | pbrunier, was a name type |
| 20:17.05 | *** join/#debian Charalambo1 (n=alexis@217-162-109-149.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:17.17 | TheBest | !tell about upgrade mysql |
| 20:17.27 | ke6isf | bazboo: True, but there's just something about it that pisses me off. =^_^= |
| 20:17.27 | Phlexonance | pdbogen: well i'll just try proftpd |
| 20:17.33 | PerfDave | user_: It'll probably show up in dmesg if it's recognised by the kernel. |
| 20:17.39 | pdbogen | Phlexonance : I will warn you, it doesn't have anything that you apparently want. |
| 20:17.45 | TheBest | !tell about mysql upgrade |
| 20:17.54 | bazboo | ke6isf: well i don't know what to say to you then other than FFTSAP ;-) |
| 20:17.57 | pdbogen | Except that it's a good and relatively easy to administer FTP server. |
| 20:17.58 | ke6isf | !tell TheBest -about msg the bot |
| 20:18.03 | delmar | bazboo, huh? go away. |
| 20:18.09 | oskie | what terminal has true UTF-8 support in debian? |
| 20:18.09 | nkuttler | TheBest: ask people if you don't know how the bot works |
| 20:18.16 | Phlexonance | pdbogen: well as you say no one has, so i will have to stick with that |
| 20:18.18 | nkuttler | oskie: mlterm? |
| 20:18.19 | abrotman | delmar: he means don't msg people without permission |
| 20:18.20 | ifvoid | oskie: xterm, gnome-terminal |
| 20:18.20 | bazboo | oskie: that's a tough one |
| 20:18.26 | ifvoid | oskie: and I suppose konsole |
| 20:18.32 | ke6isf | bazboo: And to that acronym, my only response I can think of is "gesundheit". =^_^= |
| 20:18.36 | pdbogen | Phlexonance : To be fair, I said I doubt you'll find one; I don't rule out the possibility, primarily because I haven't ever tried to find one. |
| 20:18.52 | *** part/#debian George (i=authdeni@vm.gwright.org.uk) |
| 20:18.54 | bazboo | oskie: xterm is ok, but misses stuff; konsole is ok, but misses stuff |
| 20:18.57 | oskie | is there anything more lightweight than gnome-terminal? and better looking than xterm/mlterm |
| 20:19.05 | ifvoid | oskie: mlterm maybe |
| 20:19.11 | pdbogen | Phlexonance : But traditionally, Linux server software eschews GUI configuration. The closest you'll get is, e.g., CUPS' web interface, I think. (CUPS is not an FTP server.) |
| 20:19.12 | ifvoid | but I haven't used that in a while |
| 20:19.14 | oskie | ifvoid: hmm ok i'll check it out |
| 20:19.23 | Eulex | oskie, xterm can do antialiased fonts, if it |
| 20:19.25 | Sir_LeChucK | when i su in a konsole and want to open a X11 aplication.. i get this: connection to ":0.0" refused... what is the best i can do when this happens ? |
| 20:19.30 | Eulex | 's that you're talking about |
| 20:19.42 | pdbogen | Sir_LeChucK : What, exactly, are you typing to su? |
| 20:19.48 | ifvoid | Eulex: but xterms doesn't support pango-like font substitution, does it? |
| 20:19.51 | pdbogen | Sir_LeChucK : Also, for an easier solution, apt-get install gksu |
| 20:19.59 | nkuttler | Sir_LeChucK: usually you don't want to run X apps as root |
| 20:20.02 | ifvoid | Sir_LeChucK: you could use suso instead of su |
| 20:20.03 | bazboo | oskie: apt-cache search term | egrep -i '(utf|unicode)' |
| 20:20.05 | *** join/#debian davor (n=davor@81-236-18-154-no39.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:20.07 | ifvoid | Sir_LeChucK: uh, sudo |
| 20:20.14 | nkuttler | Sir_LeChucK: /msg dpkg mit-magic-cookie |
| 20:20.21 | pdbogen | Mmm, magic. |
| 20:20.25 | bazboo | Sir_LeChucK: try sudo instead of su, it gets aroung the problem |
| 20:20.34 | Eulex | ifvoid, umh, I have no idea what that means. it supports rendering fonts with freetype, though. |
| 20:20.36 | bazboo | Sir_LeChucK: around* |
| 20:20.47 | slocate | !mit-magic-cookie |
| 20:20.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, mit-magic-cookie is 'su user_running_x -c "xauth extract - $DISPLAY" | xauth merge -' or "export XAUTHORITY=/home/<USER_RUNNING_X>/.Xauthority" (either (but not both) will let you run programs under X as root, when X was started by non-root), but xhost +localhost is damned insecure. Setting export XAUTHORITY=/home/$USER/.Xauthority in /etc/profile makes it automatic. 'zless /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz'. Also, see sshx |
| 20:21.02 | pdbogen | slocate : /msg dpkg mit-magic-cookie |
| 20:21.05 | ifvoid | Eulex: well, gnome-terminal can substitue characters from another font, if your current font doesn't have the character is need to display |
| 20:21.07 | oskie | strange.. I created a bunch of files with names with UTF-8 encoded chars... still, 'LC_CTYPE=en_IN.UTF-8 ls' doesn't render the character correctly in mlterm |
| 20:21.11 | *** join/#debian dwar (n=dwar@tn-84-218-55-43.dsl.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:21.19 | PerfDave | Sir_LeChucK: "sux" is like su but handles X-stuff automatically. |
| 20:21.26 | *** join/#debian JamesS (n=James@66-23-224-65.clients.speedfactory.net) |
| 20:21.26 | ifvoid | Eulex: so it can use a different font for latin and japanse, for example |
| 20:21.33 | Eulex | ifvoid, hmm, ok |
| 20:21.38 | Phlexonance | pdbogen: wheres the conf file for proftpd |
| 20:21.57 | pdbogen | Phlexonance : /etc/proftpd.conf I think, but don't take my word for it. |
| 20:21.58 | ifvoid | Eulex: which is pretty cool, because most fonts only support one of them, really |
| 20:22.25 | Phlexonance | pdbogen: there it was, thanks |
| 20:22.36 | *** join/#debian Zetabyte (n=cmyers@63-224-57-201.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 20:23.08 | Eulex | hmm, I just found a guy who logs #debian when I googled for fftsap |
| 20:23.32 | Sir_LeChucK | why it says that xhost +localhost is insecure ? |
| 20:23.45 | delmar | abrotman, i didnt privmsg anyone. lol |
| 20:23.48 | ifvoid | Sir_LeChucK: beacuse anyone one your network can then open windows on your screen |
| 20:23.56 | ifvoid | Sir_LeChucK: and control your mozilla |
| 20:23.59 | ifvoid | and things like that |
| 20:24.09 | pdbogen | ifvoid : Only if they can access that box's shell, neh? |
| 20:24.15 | ifvoid | pdbogen: nope |
| 20:24.27 | *** part/#debian Charalambo1 (n=alexis@217-162-109-149.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:24.41 | *** join/#debian Jo (n=JoCat@hltp-c-067.resnet.purdue.edu) |
| 20:24.45 | Jo | Ahoy again. |
| 20:24.53 | ifvoid | pbrunier: hmm, maybe you're right |
| 20:24.54 | *** join/#debian rebellis (n=rebellis@143.107.183.130) |
| 20:25.02 | ifvoid | pbrunier: I'm not entirely sure |
| 20:25.26 | Jo | The live CD fails at Device Recognition. Enabling Legacy USB does nothing. |
| 20:25.38 | Jo | Still can't install from any Debian based OS. |
| 20:25.56 | pdbogen | Jo: Any luck with a 2.4 kernel instead of 2.6? |
| 20:25.58 | Jo | CD verification says they're okay. |
| 20:26.10 | Jo | pdbogen: :( |
| 20:26.21 | ifvoid | pdbogen: what kind of special hardware do you have? |
| 20:26.23 | user_ | PerfDave, it seams, that this PCI won't be used. What can I do now. I'm despairing |
| 20:26.35 | Zetabyte | Greetings all, I'm having problems on a debian stable box setting up a printer. i read through some documentation to no avail. I have an HP LJ 2600n, on a static IP. I added the printer to cups, using jetdirect, and a URI of socket://xx.xx.xx.xx:9100. when i try to print a test page, the error log says: E [05/Mar/2006:10:20:07 -0800] Unable to convert file 0 to printable format for job 3! |
| 20:26.39 | ifvoid | uh |
| 20:26.47 | ifvoid | Jo: what kind of special hardware do you have? |
| 20:27.04 | pdbogen | Zetabyte : Are you using the proper drivers? |
| 20:27.10 | pdbogen | Zetabyte : Are you sure it's JetDirect and not IPP? |
| 20:27.12 | cahoot | Zetabyte: missing ghostscript? |
| 20:27.17 | Jo | The only abnormality I can find in my hardware is this: ChainTech mobo. |
| 20:27.18 | Sir_LeChucK | well guys.. thanks for ur answer |
| 20:27.24 | Jo | And an AMD64 processor. |
| 20:27.25 | ke6isf | !ur |
| 20:27.25 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 20:27.27 | *** join/#debian Eno_ (n=eno@71.55.172.130) |
| 20:27.41 | Jo | But I tried both the AMD64 and the i386 variations. |
| 20:27.45 | Zetabyte | pdbogen: i'm not sure, but i did an nmap and port 9100 was open on the printer |
| 20:27.47 | Eno_ | How can I specify the permissions of new files/dirs that are created on an shfs mount? |
| 20:27.56 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: do you have all the suggests and recommends of cupsys installed? |
| 20:27.57 | Zetabyte | cahoot: gs-esp package is installed |
| 20:28.06 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: i think - let me check |
| 20:28.18 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: it sounds like a local filtering problem to me |
| 20:28.37 | ifvoid | but then again, debugging cups is pretty hard |
| 20:28.38 | *** join/#debian phar0z (n=pieterja@ip-81-11-172-56.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 20:28.40 | bazboo | ke6isf: lol!!!111!!11!eleventyone!!! ur so gay!!!?!?!!1111ll111 |
| 20:28.50 | pdbogen | ~kill bazboo |
| 20:28.54 | apt | ACTION shoots a excited fluxquark gun at bazboo |
| 20:28.55 | ifvoid | bazboo: please stop it |
| 20:29.09 | *** join/#debian NeverMore_ (n=Nevermor@host11-160.pool873.interbusiness.it) |
| 20:29.10 | Jo | I could try installing Fedora to see if I get the same error. |
| 20:29.18 | Jo | Viable? |
| 20:29.20 | PerfDave | user_: Do you know whether your card is actually supported by Linux? Because if it isn't, you're best off taking it back and replacing it for one that is. |
| 20:29.22 | *** part/#debian phar0z (n=pieterja@ip-81-11-172-56.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 20:29.24 | NeverMore_ | hi all |
| 20:29.28 | *** part/#debian gypsymauro (n=coloriom@host142-107.pool874.interbusiness.it) |
| 20:29.30 | NeverMore_ | i have a small problem with a deb package |
| 20:29.33 | ifvoid | Jo: are there no more specific error messages on the other consoles? |
| 20:29.35 | bazboo | Jo: knoppix? |
| 20:29.42 | Jo | Knoppix works. |
| 20:29.56 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: looks like quite a few of the "suggests" were missing, installing now |
| 20:30.03 | ifvoid | Jo: hmm, you might want to file an install report, in any case |
| 20:30.10 | ifvoid | Jo: so that it can be fixed for sarge |
| 20:30.14 | ifvoid | uh |
| 20:30.15 | ifvoid | etch |
| 20:30.18 | Jo | The most specific error message I get involves the system freaking out when it tries to 'seize USB controll'. |
| 20:30.32 | Jo | It's fine up 'till that point. |
| 20:30.35 | ifvoid | hmm |
| 20:30.36 | ifvoid | weird |
| 20:30.37 | pdbogen | Jo: Did you every try with *just* the PS/2 keyboard? |
| 20:30.40 | Jo | Yes. |
| 20:30.44 | Jo | Didn't work. |
| 20:30.47 | pdbogen | Jo: Can you disable USB in your BIOS? |
| 20:30.57 | Jo | I can. |
| 20:30.58 | ifvoid | Jo: did you try manual unloading the usb module? |
| 20:31.06 | Jo | NEEDUSB=auto? |
| 20:31.17 | Jo | Do you mean? |
| 20:31.19 | NeverMore_ | the package is kpum, an old package that wants libqt3c, not it has been substituted by libqt so i get dependancy error when i try to install kpum, if i override it by dpkg -i --force-all then when i send apt-get -f install or when i use synaptic the package gets removed |
| 20:31.36 | pdbogen | NeverMore_ : If you're sure the libraries are compatible, you could use equivs. |
| 20:31.43 | *** join/#debian crusader77_ (n=crusader@p-202-2.dialup.vitebsk.by) |
| 20:31.56 | *** join/#debian Acid`X (n=tim@201.243.245.31) |
| 20:31.56 | *** join/#debian vook (n=vook@adsl-68-76-216-81.dsl.bltnin.ameritech.net) |
| 20:32.05 | ifvoid | NeverMore_: those old qt packages aren't compatible anymore due to compiler changes |
| 20:32.07 | NeverMore_ | pdbogen: i am using kpum with no problem now, but when i add something else kpum gets removed.. |
| 20:32.19 | ifvoid | NeverMore_: you need to get a never version of the package |
| 20:32.22 | *** join/#debian meff (n=meff@ppp-69-148-16-71.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 20:32.40 | NeverMore_ | ifvoid: it works, at the moment, but there is no newer package... |
| 20:32.55 | ifvoid | hmm, weird |
| 20:33.08 | ifvoid | NeverMore_: are you mixing stable and unstable packages? |
| 20:33.25 | NeverMore_ | ifvoid: i am running kanotix, so i am using sid. |
| 20:33.34 | ifvoid | kanotix? |
| 20:33.41 | nkuttler | NeverMore_: no, you are using kanotix |
| 20:33.41 | pdbogen | Damn, the one time I don't bring my laptop bag to work and I need something out of it. |
| 20:33.52 | nkuttler | ifvoid: /msg dpkg kanotix |
| 20:33.56 | ifvoid | well, in sid, libqt3c is obsolete and incompatible |
| 20:34.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 520] by debhelper |
| 20:34.01 | Jo | :| I hate it when that happens. |
| 20:34.08 | ifvoid | so it's no surprise apt will try to fix it |
| 20:34.12 | NeverMore_ | nkuttler: kanotix is based on sid |
| 20:34.13 | *** join/#debian eye69 (i=magnus@ipv6.upcore.net) |
| 20:34.25 | *** join/#debian concept10 (n=concept1@c-67-166-167-125.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 20:34.28 | nkuttler | NeverMore_: so are ubuntu, knoppix,... what's your point? |
| 20:34.42 | *** join/#debian lietuvis (n=rytis@60-141.245.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 20:34.55 | NeverMore_ | nkuttler: no point about that, i just wonder if there is a way to keep the package |
| 20:35.01 | *** join/#debian deviazion (n=nils@h33n4c1o838.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 20:35.12 | ifvoid | NeverMore_: but nkuttler is right, you shoudl really look for a help channel that's specific for your distro |
| 20:35.24 | ifvoid | we have no idea what changes were made and what version are used |
| 20:35.42 | NeverMore_ | ifvoid: i did, but they said that if i install with force it gets deleted when i apt-get install something |
| 20:35.52 | Thug-N-Me | hmm sounds bit funny postfix is up and running but netstat -tnp doesnt list it :( any ideea ? |
| 20:36.08 | ifvoid | NeverMore_: yeah, so they didnt solve your problem |
| 20:36.28 | user_ | PerfDave, there is an linux-Directory on the shipped-CD. There are several readme-files and pcmcia relates things. I don't know wether the readme-files related only to the PCMCIA-card or to the PCI-Card too. Ok, I should buy me a laptop. Sorry for my bad english. |
| 20:36.40 | ifvoid | NeverMore_: but I'm afraid we simply don't know enough about kanotix here to help you with these kinds of problems |
| 20:36.48 | NeverMore_ | ifvoid: yep they didn't...just tole me to reinstall the package every time i need to apt-get install something..but is messy i want to find a cleaner solution |
| 20:36.50 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: I think the filtering problem is fixed now - but things still aren't printing. |
| 20:36.58 | *** join/#debian duncf (n=duncf@apache/committer/duncf) |
| 20:36.58 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: hmm |
| 20:36.59 | *** join/#debian blazefx (n=blaze@71.143.215.32) |
| 20:37.02 | blazefx | Hey all |
| 20:37.05 | *** join/#debian magnu1 (n=magnus@201.24.45.147) |
| 20:37.13 | TheBest | where i find source.list for Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 |
| 20:37.18 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: newer hp's can also do ipp or lpd directly |
| 20:37.21 | Zetabyte | the printer status says: " Printer State: idle, accepting jobs. |
| 20:37.21 | Zetabyte | "Print file sent, waiting for printer to finish..." |
| 20:37.21 | abrotman | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:37.31 | ifvoid | which seems to work better than jetdirect stuff |
| 20:37.32 | NeverMore_ | ifvoid: i thought there was a apt-get or dpkg command that can put the package on hold |
| 20:37.35 | user_ | PerfDave, tahnk you for your help |
| 20:37.39 | *** join/#debian Aghaster (n=Aghaster@modemcable240.73-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:37.43 | *** part/#debian magnu1 (n=magnus@201.24.45.147) |
| 20:37.45 | TheBest | sory where i get source.list for Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 |
| 20:37.47 | nkuttler | NeverMore_: clean solution: install debian |
| 20:38.04 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: hmm |
| 20:38.12 | *** join/#debian xiel (n=xiel@c-68-60-207-212.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 20:38.14 | *** join/#debian sepski (n=seppity@217.17.211.51) |
| 20:38.17 | blazefx | when I type netstat -a, I see that I have daemons which I wish to close, like smtp. I go into my inet.d dir and I can not find smtp anywhere to stop. Where can I find the direcotry where I can stop such services? Thanks |
| 20:38.21 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: you might want to check with a packet sniffer if the file is actually sent to the printer |
| 20:38.25 | ke6isf | TheBest: apt-setup |
| 20:38.28 | blazefx | init.d* dir |
| 20:38.30 | nkuttler | NeverMore_: if you were using debian, i would tell you to /msg dpkg hold |
| 20:38.41 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: ok, lemme install ethereal real fast |
| 20:38.50 | ifvoid | blazefx: you need to have an smtp daemon |
| 20:39.06 | NeverMore_ | nkuttler: the command is /msg dpkg hold? |
| 20:39.11 | blazefx | then what is running on port 25 for netstat? |
| 20:39.15 | NeverMore_ | i can try if it works on kanotix also. |
| 20:39.15 | *** join/#debian pezz_ (n=pezz@host86-130-235-190.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:39.22 | abrotman | blazefx: fuser |
| 20:39.22 | ke6isf | !tell NeverMore_ -about based on debian |
| 20:39.26 | ifvoid | blazefx: the right way do fix it, is probably to set up a firewall |
| 20:39.33 | blazefx | ? |
| 20:39.46 | *** join/#debian chopp (n=chopp@S01060040f484151f.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 20:39.47 | blazefx | I understand that, but I wan't to eliminate the service completely |
| 20:39.51 | NeverMore_ | !tell |
| 20:39.53 | blazefx | That would be the right way to do it |
| 20:39.58 | ifvoid | blazefx: you still need to be abo to access these sevices from your locale machine, most probably |
| 20:39.59 | *** join/#debian sewi (i=sewi@aall207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 20:40.05 | blazefx | hrmm. |
| 20:40.18 | blazefx | Well what about things like sunrpc |
| 20:40.26 | chance2105 | What's a good GTK-based diff viewer? |
| 20:40.29 | sepski | blazefx, it's part of your core system you need 1 kind of smtp that accepts messages from various daemons |
| 20:40.32 | ifvoid | blazefx: but to answer your original question, the default smtpd in debian is called exim |
| 20:40.35 | *** join/#debian heiner (n=heiner@pdbn-d9bf273b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:40.38 | *** join/#debian JRWR (i=JRWR@68-184-204-80.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 20:40.42 | blazefx | ahh thank you that is why |
| 20:40.44 | ifvoid | blazefx: so /etc/init.d/exim4 stop stops is |
| 20:40.49 | JRWR | do any of your installs have 2.5.16 |
| 20:40.51 | ifvoid | although that' probably not what you want |
| 20:41.03 | heiner | Hello, after updating to KDE 3.5 my mouse is very slow, how could I speed it up a bit? |
| 20:41.06 | ifvoid | JRWR: I guess you mean 2.6.16? |
| 20:41.07 | streuner | JRWR: why? |
| 20:41.10 | Zugschlus | JRWR: 2.5.16 of what? |
| 20:41.12 | NeverMore_ | nkuttler: dpkg hold stops upgrading the package not fixing it..apt gets is always happy to fix my broken package :D |
| 20:41.17 | blazefx | well, I am trying to secure my system, as you all can see, and I was wondering what the best way to hardern my system would be? |
| 20:41.22 | JRWR | Kernel 2.6.`6 |
| 20:41.24 | blazefx | Should I just rely on a firewall? |
| 20:41.24 | streuner | JRWR: etch beta has/had 2.6.15 |
| 20:41.25 | nkuttler | NeverMore_: install debian |
| 20:41.30 | ifvoid | heiner: I think the kde control center has option for that |
| 20:41.33 | JRWR | for ITE Support |
| 20:41.34 | ke6isf | !tell NeverMore_ -about debian based |
| 20:41.35 | Thug-N-Me | postfix its up and running , but telnet localhost 25 doesnt work any ideea ? |
| 20:41.41 | sepski | !harden |
| 20:41.41 | dpkg | i guess harden is D:SbD, or http://d-sbd.alioth.debian.org/, or read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 20:41.45 | ke6isf | !doesn't work |
| 20:41.45 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 20:41.48 | sepski | there is a whole doc about that |
| 20:41.57 | ifvoid | JRWR: 2.6.16 isn't released yet afaik |
| 20:41.58 | heiner | ifvoid: I think I tried all of them, but in vain |
| 20:42.02 | NeverMore_ | thanks anyway |
| 20:42.08 | *** part/#debian NeverMore_ (n=Nevermor@host11-160.pool873.interbusiness.it) |
| 20:42.28 | pbrunier | ifvoid: I think you should try to alter that data |
| 20:42.37 | ifvoid | heiner: you could try playing with xset m (just type xset for help) |
| 20:42.42 | sewi | hello, I have a problem with with fstab/mount. In /etc/fstab I have set /dev/hda3 /mnt/data defaults,usr 0 0 and when I type mount I get that I cannot execute binary files on this /mnt/data but in man mount it is written that the defaults in fstab gives exec by default... So where it is change in Debian Sarge? |
| 20:42.47 | weasel00 | Thug : are you still blocking port 35? |
| 20:42.49 | streuner | !kernel |
| 20:42.51 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.15.5, prepatch: 2.6.16-rc5, snapshot: 2.6.16-rc5-git8, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-pre2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.16-rc5-mm2 |
| 20:42.55 | PerfDave | user_: Are these files on the CD that came with the wireless card, or on the CD that came with the PCI/PCMCIA converter? Or did they come together? |
| 20:42.55 | weasel00 | thug : port 25* |
| 20:42.56 | ifvoid | pbrunier: what data? |
| 20:42.58 | chance2105 | blazefx: You sound like this could be helpful to you: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Security-Quickstart-HOWTO/index.html |
| 20:43.04 | cahoot | sewi: user implies noexec |
| 20:43.04 | abrotman | !tell weasel00 about nicktab |
| 20:43.10 | *** join/#debian rumpl (n=rumpl@m127.net81-66-198.noos.fr) |
| 20:43.11 | streuner | JRWR: see what the bot tells us... |
| 20:43.20 | user_ | PerfDave, they did come together |
| 20:43.20 | pbrunier | ifvoid: Do I know you? You typed my name a few messages ago |
| 20:43.37 | weasel00 | abrotman : thanks =) |
| 20:43.41 | sepski | blazefx, but http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ is more debian related |
| 20:43.41 | pdbogen | pbrunier : I think he meant to type mine. |
| 20:43.42 | user_ | PerfDave, but there is only one Dictionary |
| 20:43.43 | heiner | ifvoid: using "xset m" or the KDE control center mouse settings does not seem to change a thing :-/ |
| 20:43.50 | ifvoid | pbrunier: oh, that was a mistake, that was meant for Jo |
| 20:43.54 | *** join/#debian sched (n=sched@201.44.222.83) |
| 20:43.54 | ifvoid | pbrunier: sorry about that |
| 20:43.55 | sewi | cahoot: I see, thanks |
| 20:44.05 | pbrunier | no problem |
| 20:44.08 | weasel00 | Thug-N-Me : are you still blocking port 25? |
| 20:44.11 | ifvoid | heiner: you need to specify speeds and accelerations to xset m |
| 20:44.17 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 nope |
| 20:44.25 | Thug-N-Me | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.30 | Thug-N-Me | ACCEPT |
| 20:44.30 | ifvoid | heiner: xset m 2/1 4 for example |
| 20:44.31 | heiner | ifvoid: I did, I tried e.g. "xset m 2 2" or "xset m 10 10", but there's no change |
| 20:44.31 | sewi | cahoot: so to work it my way should I add defaults,user,exec? |
| 20:44.33 | *** join/#debian delmar (n=Delmar@203-114-178-231.inspire.net.nz) |
| 20:44.36 | ifvoid | (that what I'm using here) |
| 20:44.39 | ifvoid | heiner: ah |
| 20:44.41 | ifvoid | heiner: weird |
| 20:44.55 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 and anyway i try to connect to it local |
| 20:44.57 | ifvoid | no idea then, sorry |
| 20:45.00 | *** join/#debian Julio (n=Julio@84.77.23.170) |
| 20:45.02 | PerfDave | user_: OK, use "lspci" to find out the model number or whatever of the PCI/PCMCIA adapter, and google for that + linux |
| 20:45.14 | cahoot | sewi: I'd consult man mount |
| 20:45.17 | weasel00 | Thug-N-Me : stmp server is up and running on port 25? |
| 20:45.21 | lietuvis | Hello. Some apps like Xmms or Scilab are using very small fonts. One can hardly read anything. The other apps work just fine. I wonder which file is responsible for that and how can I fix it? I'm using XFCE4 under Sid. |
| 20:45.23 | user_ | PerfDave, ok |
| 20:45.24 | PerfDave | user_: On the other hand, there are plenty of PCI wireless cards supported by Debian, why did you go for a PCMCIA one? |
| 20:45.28 | heiner | ifvoid: I have a Fujitsu/Siemens laptop, and it worked perfectly until some weeks |
| 20:45.38 | ifvoid | heiner: ah, with a touchpad? |
| 20:45.43 | heiner | ifvoid: yes |
| 20:46.02 | user_ | PerfDave, because of the externel Antenna |
| 20:46.11 | ifvoid | heiner: uhm, there's a special program/driver for that |
| 20:46.12 | heiner | ifvoid: and the touchpad is what I have problems with. Sorry for having been unclear |
| 20:46.14 | ifvoid | lemme think |
| 20:46.15 | abrotman | !gtk font size |
| 20:46.15 | dpkg | If gtk1 fonts are fucked and gtk-theme-switch won't fix them, copy a file from /etc/gtk/gtkrc.$LOCALE to ~/.gtkrc and replace the specified font with whatever you like from xfontsel. |
| 20:46.23 | *** join/#debian aidan (i=aidan@unaffiliated/aidan) |
| 20:46.29 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 well netstat -tnp doesnt show me postfix running |
| 20:46.41 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 ps aux | grep postfix it does |
| 20:46.52 | *** join/#debian [_nOp_] (n=xxxx@23.90.119-80.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 20:46.53 | *** join/#debian elkid (n=elkid@unaffiliated/elkid) |
| 20:47.14 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: netstat -an | grep 25 ... anything ? |
| 20:47.26 | *** join/#debian livingtm (n=Tim@cpe-69-205-45-70.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 20:47.38 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman nope |
| 20:47.48 | *** join/#debian pezz_ (n=pezz@host86-130-235-190.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:47.52 | ifvoid | heiner: do you have the synaptics X input driver? |
| 20:48.06 | PerfDave | user_: There are PCI cards with external antennae, I've got several :) |
| 20:48.07 | livingtm | How do i get Samba Configuration to show up in KDEs Control Center? |
| 20:48.11 | heiner | ifvoid: I don't know, how could I check that? |
| 20:48.15 | ifvoid | heiner: in that case, you should be able to control it with ksynaptics, qsynaptics or tpconfig |
| 20:48.15 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman /etc/init.d/postfix start |
| 20:48.15 | Thug-N-Me | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.21 | user_ | PerfDave, I need only one :) |
| 20:48.22 | *** join/#debian pusling (i=pusling@195.215.29.124) |
| 20:48.30 | *** join/#debian boudewijn36 (n=boudewij@3E33A24F.dslaccess.aol.com) |
| 20:48.31 | *** join/#debian k-man (n=Jason@unaffiliated/k-man) |
| 20:48.39 | Stork | woot, i set up my debian server |
| 20:48.44 | weasel00 | Thug-N-Me : working now? |
| 20:48.46 | ifvoid | heiner: in your /etc/X11/XF86Config, there should be an input section describing your mouse |
| 20:48.59 | ifvoid | uh, /etc/X11/XF86Config4 probably |
| 20:49.07 | PerfDave | user_: The Gigabyte GN-WPKG was great, but slightly hard to obtain now. The replacement Gigabyte PCI card has GPL'd drivers (rt2x00) but requires APIs only available in kernel 2.6.13 or later, which makes running it on Sarge awkward. |
| 20:49.10 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 nope |
| 20:49.13 | Thug-N-Me | same |
| 20:49.15 | user_ | PerfDave, I need a card, where I can plagged in my very big external antenna |
| 20:49.24 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 20:49.31 | lietuvis | abrotman: Thanks for the tip. I'm trying to see it it changes something. |
| 20:49.34 | ifvoid | heiner: something that has Driver "synaptics" |
| 20:49.53 | PerfDave | user_: The GN-WPKG has a standard external aerial connector. |
| 20:49.56 | JRWR | What should i do to enable ITE support WHILE installing debain, so i can install and boot off a Hardrive on the card |
| 20:50.03 | PerfDave | user_: I'm going to be getting myself a nice sector antenna for my firewall :) |
| 20:50.50 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (n=robert@79-41.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 20:50.55 | heiner | ifvoid: I have a section "InputDevice" with Driver "synaptics", yes |
| 20:51.07 | ifvoid | heiner: ah ok |
| 20:51.16 | lord_rob | hi ! do anyone know if fglrx in sid is compatible with xorg 6.9 ? |
| 20:51.22 | *** join/#debian d4t2ilL4 (n=datn@ppp4DF4.dsl.pacific.net.au) |
| 20:51.25 | weasel00 | Thug-N-Me : firewall is open for 25 and the stmp is running on 25? |
| 20:51.32 | ifvoid | heiner: then you should be able to control the speed and palm detection and buttons and scrolling and such with ksynaptics |
| 20:51.35 | user_ | PerfDave, FLAVIA-YAGI14 is a good one |
| 20:51.36 | d4t2ilL4 | good morning |
| 20:51.41 | ifvoid | lord_rob: I think it is |
| 20:51.52 | ifvoid | lord_rob: altough I think I downloaded mine directly from ati |
| 20:51.52 | user_ | PerfDave, ok, I have no problem with sarge |
| 20:52.00 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 i dont know for sure if firewall is open for 25 . the stmp its running on port 25 yes |
| 20:52.02 | ifvoid | lord_rob: they have Debian packages noawdays \o/ |
| 20:52.29 | weasel00 | Thug-N-Me : i would check your firewall settings |
| 20:52.31 | *** join/#debian Amorphous (i=jan@bras-co-85-197-2-224.westend.de) |
| 20:52.32 | lord_rob | ifvoid: you mean different packages than those available in sid ? |
| 20:52.41 | user_ | PerfDave, or try to get a Gigabyte GN-WPKG |
| 20:52.48 | ifvoid | lord_rob: I think so, yeah |
| 20:53.05 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: if netstat doesn't see it .. it may not be listening at all .. can you telnet localhost 25 ? |
| 20:53.10 | user_ | PerfDave, I think it is a easier |
| 20:53.10 | ifvoid | lord_rob: they have this intaller driver package, which can generate debs |
| 20:53.40 | *** join/#debian Wyzard|TP (n=mike@71.225.116.133) |
| 20:53.49 | weasel00 | abrotman : it wasnt started, still refusing connections, Thug-N-Me is checking firewall settings |
| 20:54.09 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman no i cannot Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 20:54.47 | *** join/#debian Bizurke (n=toor@71-32-64-57.cdrr.qwest.net) |
| 20:54.57 | d4t2ilL4 | does debian support intel pentium D cpu with dual core? |
| 20:55.27 | oskie | what's a good terminal-based editor that supports UTF-8? |
| 20:55.28 | PerfDave | user_: Well, I know that they work quite nicely with Sarge, 'cause I wrote http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Debian_rt2500_Howto which is how I got my GN-WPKG working :) |
| 20:55.35 | ifvoid | oskie: vim, emacs |
| 20:55.42 | prodope | is there something different with make install on the 2.6.15.5 kernel? it seems to be doing the same thing as 'make' instead of installing the files and running lilo... anyone know what's up? (already asked in #kernel and a few other equally non-active channels) |
| 20:55.47 | *** join/#debian sepone (n=seppity@217.17.211.51) |
| 20:55.49 | oskie | ifvoid: i'm not a vi or emacs person :( |
| 20:56.01 | lord_rob | d4t2ilL4: if linux kernel does, so does debian (but I don't know if kernel supports it) |
| 20:56.04 | ifvoid | oskie: I don't know of any other decent editors for the console |
| 20:56.08 | oskie | ifvoid: heh ok.. |
| 20:56.22 | ifvoid | nano is nice for recovery work, but I doubt it has very good utf8 support |
| 20:56.34 | Bizurke | Can anyone think of a reason that I would suddenly be unable to use any browser other than konqueror, and can not use any messenger services? Konqueror works fine, mozilla will work if I spend 10min waiting for google to load, Firefox, opera, and epiphany do not however work at all. |
| 20:56.37 | livingtm | d4t2ilL4, I think you needto build the kernel with symmetric multi processing |
| 20:56.39 | florin-_- | when y shut down my pc after the long message lines y get "power down" then a "acpi_poweroff_called" message then the HD is shutting down but the monitor and power fun are still runing. I'vd tried modifing the /boot/grub/menu.lst and i'vd aded an "acpi=off" to the line that's startin with kernel......now when i'm shuting down my pc y get a "power off" mesage but my monitor and power are still up.what can y do forr geting a clean pow |
| 20:56.58 | Bizurke | They open but they do not receive websites. |
| 20:57.08 | *** join/#debian chance2105 (n=chance@ppp-70-243-123-147.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 20:57.22 | PerfDave | Bizurke: "suddenly"? Is this after a reboot? An apt-get upgrade? |
| 20:57.32 | *** join/#debian elkid (n=elkid@unaffiliated/elkid) |
| 20:57.46 | d4t2ilL4 | lord_rob, thanks |
| 20:57.51 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 $IPT -A tcp_inbound -p TCP -s 0/0 --destination-port 25 -j ACCEPT thats how it is in my firewall .. so it should be ok ;( |
| 20:57.52 | PerfDave | florin-_-: If you pass "acpi=off" to the kernel, it will disable ACPI, which is why you get the "power off" message (which means "It's OK to turn the power off manually"). |
| 20:58.10 | *** join/#debian chuckyp (i=histo@adsl-68-76-118-200.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net) |
| 20:58.13 | Bizurke | This happend a few days ago and me and a few others have tried to fix it. The install of debian is rather new and I'd only been using this comptuer maybe 3 days. My DSL had an outage and once it came back up (ISP problem not mine) I wasn't able to use those. |
| 20:58.48 | ifvoid | Bizurke: sounds like a dns problem |
| 20:58.53 | *** join/#debian nonix4 (n=iheino@power11.adsl.netsonic.fi) |
| 20:58.55 | ifvoid | Bizurke: what's in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 20:58.57 | Bizurke | at first I thought my wireless connection wasn't strong enough but I can still FTP at high speeds |
| 20:58.59 | florin-_- | PerfDave: when y push that buton nothig hapends |
| 20:59.00 | Bizurke | let me check |
| 20:59.06 | lord_rob | d4t2ilL4: don't forget to use latest kernel (for the moment 2.6.15 I think) |
| 20:59.08 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: using ethereal, i've confirmed that cups is sending a load of stuff to the printer destination port 9100 |
| 20:59.16 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: hmm, ok |
| 20:59.24 | MoRLoCh | Bizurke: check also if you have a proxy set up in these browsers |
| 20:59.28 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: then I guess it's a problem on the printer side |
| 20:59.30 | PerfDave | florin-_-: If nothing happens when you press the power button, that's a matter for your BIOS. Are you running a recent BIOS? |
| 20:59.46 | *** join/#debian ke6isf (i=ke6isf@hibachi.chez-vrolet.net) |
| 20:59.46 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: it would seem so, unless what it is sending is malformed or something. |
| 20:59.49 | Bizurke | two nameservers, first is my router, second is 205.171.3.65 |
| 21:00.00 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: you could try using ipp://printer.address.lan/printername or lpd://printer.address/printername |
| 21:00.02 | Bizurke | ifvoid: I've checked and there is no proxy set up |
| 21:00.19 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: ok, lemme try that |
| 21:00.32 | weasel00 | bizurke : why are you using your router as a dns? |
| 21:00.45 | Bizurke | I'm not sure why that is in there at all, I didn't put it there |
| 21:00.50 | *** join/#debian seemawn (n=seemawn@p54A9B16B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:00.53 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: have you checked that you've got the correct driver? That might just be causing cups to send glibberish to the printer |
| 21:00.54 | nonix4 | Anyone know whether the regexp 'The Bat! .v[^) ]*. Personal' matches only spam e-mail's headers? |
| 21:00.55 | Bizurke | think I should remove it? |
| 21:01.10 | nonix4 | s/'s/s'/ |
| 21:01.12 | florin-_- | PerfDave:with other dis works just fine kmenu>turn off pc> then the pc just shut's down normalY |
| 21:01.25 | florin-_- | *dist |
| 21:01.52 | PerfDave | florin-_-: Which kernel are you using? |
| 21:01.55 | *** join/#debian nekostar (n=nekostar@cpe-24-24-136-216.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:01.55 | Wyzard|TP | nonix4: "The Bat" is an email client that some people use |
| 21:02.16 | florin-_- | PerfDave: 2.6.14 |
| 21:02.17 | nonix4 | Wyzard|TP: I've never seen it used for non-spam so far :-/ |
| 21:02.17 | weasel00 | Bizurke : would flip the dns entries and see the time change for the name resolution ;) |
| 21:03.00 | *** join/#debian nekostar (n=nekostar@unaffiliated/starscalling) |
| 21:03.02 | d4t2ilL4 | sorry guys, to ask another irrelevant question, what is a good project management (client & server) program in linux. and is free and in free beer |
| 21:03.08 | Bizurke | ok, once I write out to resolv.conf do I need to reset or anything or should it immediatly change the order it works in? |
| 21:03.10 | weasel00 | Thug-N-Me : im not sure where else to look... |
| 21:03.19 | user_ | PerfDave, thank you for the informations. I try to order the card tomorrow |
| 21:03.25 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 :( |
| 21:03.25 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: how do i check what driver it is using? |
| 21:03.50 | *** join/#debian pezz_ (n=pezz@host86-130-235-190.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 527] by debhelper |
| 21:04.11 | *** part/#debian Stork (n=alex@storkey.plus.com) |
| 21:04.11 | ke6isf | nonix4: The Bat! is a valid MUA. It's not reliable to grep taht out for spam headers. |
| 21:04.12 | PerfDave | user_: Best of luck. |
| 21:04.15 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 someone said to open the port in my packet filter, where would this be ? |
| 21:04.21 | PerfDave | florin-_-: Hand-compiled? Which version of Debian are you running? |
| 21:04.34 | *** join/#debian _avdi (n=avdi@216.108.203.126) |
| 21:04.35 | *** join/#debian emad (n=emad@adsl-68-95-245-67.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 21:04.36 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 iptables hsould be ok isnt it ? |
| 21:04.36 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: uhm |
| 21:04.40 | ke6isf | nonix4: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/ |
| 21:04.42 | PerfDave | d4t2ilL4: There are a bunch of web-based ones, the only one I can remember though is Trac. |
| 21:04.46 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: I usually check from gnome |
| 21:05.02 | emad | where should i store audio/video codecs in debian? is /usr/local/lib/codecs appropriate ? |
| 21:05.04 | weasel00 | Bizurke : should work instantly |
| 21:05.07 | emad | or is there a better location? |
| 21:05.17 | florin-_- | PerfDave: its a Kanotix debian sid based |
| 21:05.30 | pavlovsdog | tsk |
| 21:05.35 | nkuttler | emad: you could just use the marillat w32codecs package |
| 21:05.36 | pavlovsdog | caching! |
| 21:05.38 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: but I think it makes a link in /etc/cups/ppd fromt eh printer name to the driver ppd |
| 21:05.40 | PerfDave | florin-_-: Then ask #kanotix. Kanotix is not supported on #debian. |
| 21:05.42 | *** join/#debian JayR168 (n=jayr168@203.177.243.33) |
| 21:06.25 | *** join/#debian Elive_user90 (n=Elive_us@105pc207.sshunet.nl) |
| 21:06.25 | weasel00 | Thug-N-Me : wouldnt hurt to check ... id check your smtp server and make sure that settigns are setup correctly and where they should be |
| 21:06.25 | emad | nkuttler: ok thanks i'll look into that |
| 21:06.57 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 it did work before i run iptables -A INPUT -i extif -p tcp --dport 25 -j DROP |
| 21:07.15 | emad | nkuttler: Errftp://ftp.nerim.net testing/main Packages Unable to fetch file, server said ‘Can't open /debian-marillat/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory ’ [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] |
| 21:07.20 | emad | :< |
| 21:07.21 | weasel00 | Thug-N-Me : comment out that line and reload it. |
| 21:07.26 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: yyeeeehhh....um...i see a PPD in there called <printername>.ppd, it is an ordinary file, not a link. no idea if it's the correct driver or not |
| 21:07.40 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: lemme hit up linuxprinting.org and manually replace that PPD with the right one |
| 21:07.41 | nkuttler | emad: read the documentation on the website |
| 21:07.42 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 comment out from where ? |
| 21:07.52 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: well, it's just a text file, so maybe it gives you any clues |
| 21:08.14 | *** join/#debian _avdi (n=avdi@216.108.203.126) |
| 21:08.49 | *** join/#debian ghenry (n=ghenry@mail.suretecsystems.com) |
| 21:09.06 | emad | which one is testing? |
| 21:09.08 | emad | etch or sarge? |
| 21:09.16 | nkuttler | emad: etch |
| 21:09.22 | PerfDave | !releases |
| 21:09.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, releases is see http://debian.org/releases/, or an explanation of the different levels of Debian releases. |
| 21:09.24 | d4t2ilL4 | thanks you PerfDave |
| 21:09.26 | lietuvis | The thing with .gtkrc worked with Xmms but not with Scilab. I suppose the latter isn't using GTK. Any ideas? |
| 21:09.48 | *** join/#debian Edgan (n=edgan@okcforum.org) |
| 21:10.01 | *** join/#debian KaiL_dapper (n=kail@p548F5C11.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:10.25 | *** part/#debian Edgan (n=edgan@okcforum.org) |
| 21:11.09 | *** join/#debian bcc (n=bcc@pool-71-247-142-180.nycmny.east.verizon.net) |
| 21:11.10 | Bizurke | mozilla is fixed :-) |
| 21:11.13 | Bizurke | now to try messengers |
| 21:11.50 | MoRLoCh | lietuvis: it might be a silly thing, but did you install the -transcoded fonts? |
| 21:11.53 | Bizurke | man we've been tryin to fix this for a week |
| 21:11.54 | *** join/#debian _avdi (n=avdi@216.108.203.126) |
| 21:11.54 | Bizurke | THANK YOU! |
| 21:12.09 | streuner | ifvoid: did you vote already? |
| 21:12.17 | *** join/#debian yahd (n=boni@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net) |
| 21:12.23 | ifvoid | streuner: for what/ |
| 21:12.30 | yahd | how can i get macromedia flash in firefox? |
| 21:12.31 | streuner | ifvoid: DPL |
| 21:12.41 | ifvoid | uh |
| 21:12.54 | ifvoid | streuner: the vote hasn't even started yet |
| 21:13.08 | bcc | hi guys, does anyone know of a good server-based chat software that doesn't use java applets and doesn't require mysql? |
| 21:13.09 | weasel00 | Bizurke : you will want to remove the router's ip from the dns entrys with a dns |
| 21:13.27 | Bizurke | alright |
| 21:13.30 | streuner | ifvoid: well, i did read something wrong then, i thought 192 DD's already voted |
| 21:13.40 | weasel00 | Bizurke |
| 21:13.46 | nkuttler | yahd: marillat's flashplayer is nice |
| 21:13.51 | petemc | bcc: jabberd, ircd |
| 21:14.10 | bcc | petemc: ircd is web-based? |
| 21:14.13 | weasel00 | Bizurke : everything was timing out because of the delay inresolving the domain names =) |
| 21:14.32 | lietuvis | MoRLoCh: No, I don't think so. It's not installed by default, is it? I'll do it right now. |
| 21:14.42 | petemc | bcc: you didnt say web based, but you can have web front ends, yes |
| 21:14.47 | Bizurke | Thanks, it's one of those things that I should have thought of but my brain just got fried messing with it. I feel so dumb, yet so relieved. |
| 21:14.56 | Bizurke | so I should just take out the router address? |
| 21:15.18 | bcc | petemc: that's great. do you know of any such front-ends? i can't seem to find anything that's not tied to mysql. |
| 21:15.30 | petemc | bcc: cgi-irc |
| 21:15.40 | emad | nkuttler: thank you very much, it is working fine. now i can listen to bbc arabic radio |
| 21:15.40 | ifvoid | streuner: I guess you did |
| 21:15.52 | lietuvis | scilab |
| 21:15.53 | *** join/#debian ecade (n=ecade@ti132110a080-4886.bb.online.no) |
| 21:15.54 | *** part/#debian emad (n=emad@adsl-68-95-245-67.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 21:15.55 | bcc | petemc: thanks |
| 21:16.00 | petemc | np |
| 21:16.01 | *** join/#debian garo (n=garo@dD5778D8F.access.telenet.be) |
| 21:16.07 | weasel00 | Bizurke : leave the router for the router (or gateway) ip only... remove the dns entry using the routers ip |
| 21:16.43 | streuner | ifvoid: "We are now in the second and final week of this vote. At the time of writing, 174 people have voted, out of a potential 972." |
| 21:16.44 | livingtm | I have two machines running sarge, side by side.. and one of them shows Samba Configuration in the control center, and one does not.. Both have samba-common installed. Anyone know why this is, or how i can fix the control center? |
| 21:17.00 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: I am embarrased - apparently I didn't read carefully enough, before buying, or seeking help here in IRC. according to info here: http://foo2hp.rkkda.com/ I am lead to believe that my particular printer is not compatible with the standards most HP printers are, and in fact, requires a special driver |
| 21:17.15 | Zetabyte | I am following the directions for an open-source version of that driver now, hopefully that will get things going. |
| 21:17.24 | garo | How can i find out which package owns the file /foo/bar ? |
| 21:17.37 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 how will i stop iptables ? i want to make sure itables is the problem |
| 21:17.37 | ifvoid | garo: dpkg -S or dlocate |
| 21:17.42 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: no prob |
| 21:17.51 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: good luck in getting it to work |
| 21:17.52 | garo | ifvoid: thanks |
| 21:17.59 | weasel00 | Thug-N-Me : iptables -D INPUT -i extif -p tcp --dport 25 -j DROP |
| 21:18.07 | weasel00 | Thug-N-Me : and reload |
| 21:18.08 | ifvoid | Zetabyte: but I think most hp printer are pretty well supported nowadays |
| 21:18.40 | *** join/#debian lietuvis (n=rytis@60-141.245.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 21:18.48 | obscuresoul | the swat package provides a samba administration through the web? |
| 21:18.58 | *** join/#debian pitillo (n=pitillo@81-202-121-128.user.ono.com) |
| 21:19.33 | lietuvis | Thank you! The thing with the transcoded fonts worked like a charm. My eyes are saved! |
| 21:20.22 | MoRLoCh | lietuvis: hehe, I am glad it worked |
| 21:21.50 | *** join/#debian tiCo89 (i=mario@debian.uid0.ch) |
| 21:22.07 | *** join/#debian Qzarka (n=james@user-0ccsp0c.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 21:22.22 | *** join/#debian rumpl (n=rumpl@m127.net81-66-198.noos.fr) |
| 21:22.55 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: HUZZAH! success! the driver i downloaded from that address worked, and i've got my first printout that didn't come from the printer's own firmware. |
| 21:22.57 | *** join/#debian _GecKo (n=gecko@222-154-224-86.adsl.xtra.co.nz) |
| 21:23.06 | Zetabyte | ifvoid: I couldn't have done it without your help - thanks! |
| 21:23.08 | ifvoid | greta |
| 21:23.13 | ifvoid | you're welcome |
| 21:23.16 | JayR168 | where can I find a list and description of all packages in debian? |
| 21:23.31 | JayR168 | is there a website for that? |
| 21:23.45 | PerfDave | JayR168: http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 21:23.49 | obscuresoul | the swat package provides a samba administration through the web? |
| 21:24.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 518] by debhelper |
| 21:24.17 | *** part/#debian garo (n=garo@dD5778D8F.access.telenet.be) |
| 21:24.19 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 same :( |
| 21:24.20 | phogg | obscuresoul: if it doesn't then it's the most badly named tool, ever |
| 21:24.40 | deadcat | can somebody tell me why this kill aint working? sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/ohohoh |
| 21:24.56 | obscuresoul | phogg, ehehe :P |
| 21:25.12 | Qzarka | I have a bit of a problem, I have an IPW2200 wireless card on my laptop. I have installed ieee80211 (and can modprobe the module), however, when I try to make the ipw2200 drivers, I get a ton of errors like "error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type". Anyone know how to fix this? |
| 21:25.13 | Zetabyte | sadly, the real lesson here was, even a linux-friendly company like HP can take short cuts, and make a "winprinter", not unlike the winmodems, which are not linux-friendly without the help of a huge custom-made driver. Next time I say "300$ for a color laser printer? too good to be true!" I'll know why. |
| 21:25.31 | *** join/#debian Eruantalon (n=hans@56344E27.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 21:26.19 | lietuvis | Well, I have another question. This one would be even sillier. Exim4? In human language it does what and do I need it? It's running a service and I don't even know what it does. I understand it has something to do with mail. If I'm the only user on the PC and I use just Gmail, Yahoo and that kind of stuff, do I still have to keep it? |
| 21:26.52 | phogg | lietuvis: exim is a MTA |
| 21:27.15 | lietuvis | and MTA is?... |
| 21:27.19 | nkuttler | lietuvis: keep it. configure it to do local delivery only. |
| 21:27.20 | phogg | lietuvis: it is necessary for local mail delivery and, IIRC, configured to do only that by default |
| 21:27.31 | priscila | main transport agent |
| 21:27.36 | priscila | ops |
| 21:27.37 | priscila | mail |
| 21:27.42 | phogg | lietuvis: Mail Transport Agent. Speaks SMTP. |
| 21:28.21 | lietuvis | Ok. I got convinced. |
| 21:28.26 | MoRLoCh | lietuvis: you need an MTA so that other daemons can send email |
| 21:28.31 | Zugschlus | maybe it would be a good idea to configure it for a smarthost setup and alias root to the web mail account |
| 21:28.41 | phogg | while it is possible to noit have local mail delivery, I would not recommend it. |
| 21:28.52 | *** join/#debian AR (n=AkaraK@mugcuctep.jinr.ru) |
| 21:29.35 | *** join/#debian LordRam (n=LordRam@87.217.73.160) |
| 21:29.54 | abrotman | !moo |
| 21:29.54 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 21:30.04 | *** part/#debian LordRam (n=LordRam@87.217.73.160) |
| 21:30.14 | weasel00 | lol |
| 21:30.19 | Qzarka | Has anyone any experience setting up an Intel PRO/Wireless 2200GB card? |
| 21:30.50 | tonsofpcs | nope |
| 21:31.06 | abrotman | !ipw2200 |
| 21:31.06 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, to install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. you will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) packages installed, and you will need contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200, or ipw2200-source will only compile on a 2.6 kernel |
| 21:31.06 | livingtm | abrotman (im afraid to ask) whats the story with the cow |
| 21:31.07 | *** join/#debian Aghaster (n=Aghaster@modemcable240.73-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 21:31.12 | abrotman | livingtm: apt-get moo |
| 21:31.20 | livingtm | abrotman, i see that.. whats the story |
| 21:31.28 | abrotman | livingtm: magic cow powers! |
| 21:31.33 | livingtm | abrotman nothing more? |
| 21:31.43 | abrotman | !super cow powers |
| 21:31.44 | dpkg | i guess super cow powers is "apt-get moo", or super cow powers include flying and speaking spanish, or mooing |
| 21:31.54 | livingtm | abrotman must be some history there |
| 21:32.07 | abrotman | livingtm: mebbe |
| 21:32.08 | ke6isf | Moo! |
| 21:32.24 | jelly | livingtm: It's a reference to a cartoon. Cow and Chicken. |
| 21:32.28 | phogg | !moo |
| 21:32.28 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 21:32.44 | *** join/#debian Thug-N-Me (n=speyer@host-84-9-15-252.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 21:32.51 | livingtm | ahh ok |
| 21:33.06 | Thug-N-Me | how will i reset the iptables ? |
| 21:33.20 | abrotman | !iptables |
| 21:33.20 | dpkg | i heard iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 21:33.24 | phogg | There was another program with super cow powers, but I forget what it was |
| 21:33.27 | Aghaster | how can i make my custom keymap? |
| 21:33.30 | jelly | !aptitude moo |
| 21:33.30 | dpkg | i guess aptitude moo is a hidden thingy... try aptitude moo with -v option, or with -vv or -vvv and so on... ;) |
| 21:33.32 | abrotman | !keymap |
| 21:33.33 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 21:33.34 | Aghaster | and where are keymaps located? |
| 21:33.39 | Aghaster | ok |
| 21:33.42 | jelly | !easter |
| 21:33.42 | dpkg | [easter] on the first sunday after the full moon after the first equinox (23 March), or not on friday - that's Good Friday. |
| 21:33.45 | jelly | !easter egg |
| 21:33.47 | jelly | !easter eggs |
| 21:33.54 | *** join/#debian vyrus001 (n=vyrus001@adsl-69-231-36-207.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 21:34.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 508] by debhelper |
| 21:34.17 | Qzarka | What does " m-a prepare && m-a a-i" mean? |
| 21:34.34 | phogg | Qzarka: m-a is module-assistant |
| 21:34.37 | PerfDave | Qzarka: It tells module-assistant to prepare itself, then auto-install something., |
| 21:34.46 | Qzarka | Thanks |
| 21:35.07 | weasel00 | Thug-N-Me : /etc/init.d/iptables stop |
| 21:35.10 | Qzarka | !contrib |
| 21:35.11 | dpkg | contrib is, like, debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free software To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'non-free contrib' on the end. |
| 21:35.34 | *** join/#debian Acid`X (n=tim@201.243.245.31) |
| 21:35.34 | Thug-N-Me | weasel00 there is no such file |
| 21:35.38 | *** join/#debian sami (i=sami@on.eniten.com) |
| 21:36.03 | yahd | nkuttler: what is the flash package name? |
| 21:36.09 | *** join/#debian minamata (n=nkkm@lns-bzn-9-82-254-108-95.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 21:36.12 | abrotman | weasel00: Thug-N-Me : go read /usr/share/doc/iptables/* |
| 21:36.15 | abrotman | !flash |
| 21:36.15 | dpkg | somebody said flash was If you want the flashplayer browser plugin, go to http://www.flash.com and follow the instructions there. Or look at the flashplugin-nonfree package, or most flash crap you see is from banner ads, and very little of it actual real and potentially interesting content. get yourself some object blocking/filtering extensions in your favourite browser, or missing fonts? install gsfonts-x11 |
| 21:36.21 | minamata | hi |
| 21:36.41 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman /etc/init.d/iptables doesnt even exist man .hmm |
| 21:36.57 | abrotman | go read the docs |
| 21:36.58 | minamata | got an USB host-to-Host cable, visible on usbview an ifconfig -a, but when I try a ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.1 pointopoint 192.168.1.2 up , i get a SIOCSIFFLAGS broken pipe |
| 21:37.02 | minamata | need help |
| 21:37.06 | ke6isf | Hmm... xpdf doesn't really exist for windows. |
| 21:37.11 | ke6isf | !tell minamata -about ask |
| 21:37.36 | livingtm | foxit pdf viewer for windows |
| 21:37.38 | livingtm | fast |
| 21:37.56 | livingtm | fre (as in beer) |
| 21:38.00 | livingtm | free even |
| 21:38.09 | *** join/#debian Award (n=jpdp@core-philly-4-25.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) |
| 21:38.13 | nkuttler | yahd: apt-cache search flash |
| 21:38.18 | minamata | what does it mean: SIOCSIFFLAGS broken pipe |
| 21:38.34 | *** join/#debian Kane32 (n=jojo@p549BB328.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:39.03 | ke6isf | livingtm: URL? |
| 21:39.03 | foof_ | compiling irssi on SCO UNIX is broken! |
| 21:39.12 | livingtm | ke6isf, Google.. its one of the first hits |
| 21:39.13 | ke6isf | foof_: SCO UNIX is considered harmful. |
| 21:39.14 | *** join/#debian edt (n=knoppix@dsl-142-196.aei.ca) |
| 21:39.22 | ke6isf | livingtm: search terms? |
| 21:39.29 | livingtm | ke6isf, "Foxit reader" |
| 21:39.42 | ke6isf | livingtm: Heh, thanks. |
| 21:39.45 | abrotman | !tell edt about knoppix |
| 21:39.47 | phogg | ke6isf: for Windows PDF/PS I always install ghostscript |
| 21:40.06 | livingtm | ke6isf, I started using it afer acrobat 7 locked my machine up everytime i browed across a PDF |
| 21:40.08 | ice-thc | gn8 |
| 21:40.23 | ke6isf | phogg: I'm just looking for a good unencumbered pdf viewer. Supposed to be easily useable for a luser. |
| 21:40.38 | *** join/#debian sami__ (i=sami@on.eniten.com) |
| 21:40.39 | *** join/#debian jayr168 (n=jayr168@203.177.243.33) |
| 21:40.52 | phogg | free > easy |
| 21:41.49 | ke6isf | phogg: Unfortunately, yeah. Remember, these are people who don't necessarily have the inclination to read the README files. |
| 21:42.05 | minamata | is the fact that the other PC is a W98 explain what i cant have a hsot-to-host connection with it??? |
| 21:42.22 | abrotman | win98 sucks with usb .. |
| 21:42.31 | MoRLoCh | minamata: might be |
| 21:42.34 | livingtm | abrotman what does usb have to do with it |
| 21:42.50 | abrotman | win98 sucks with usb .. |
| 21:42.54 | ke6isf | minamata: What you ask has about a dozen problems. What exactly are you trying to do, and what seems to be the problem? |
| 21:42.59 | livingtm | abrotman, is sucks on its own |
| 21:43.26 | minamata | I know, but still : the same USB2USB network cable worls fine with this W98 and mine (when mine boots on XP, but not when I boot Linux....) |
| 21:43.51 | minamata | ke6isf, got an USB host-to-Host cable, visible on usbview an ifconfig -a, but when I try a ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.1 pointopoint 192.168.1.2 up , i get a SIOCSIFFLAGS broken pipe |
| 21:44.34 | minamata | that s my pb |
| 21:45.03 | ke6isf | minamata: In that case, yes, it could just be that it's Win98. |
| 21:45.04 | abrotman | livingtm: you're missing the damn point |
| 21:45.27 | minamata | my questions is : why this error message? |
| 21:46.34 | *** join/#debian zhorglub (n=zhorglub@ALyon-151-1-18-67.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:47.16 | *** part/#debian Qzarka (n=james@user-0ccsp0c.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 21:48.19 | minamata | ke6isf, why ? what pb with w98? |
| 21:48.24 | unstable | What is the cdrecord command to burn a 700 meg movie.avi file to a cdr as data?(if you don't know the command please don't say to read the man page) |
| 21:48.37 | *** join/#debian Qzarka (n=james@user-0ccsp0c.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 21:49.12 | ke6isf | minamata: What abrotman said - USB on Win98 sucks. |
| 21:49.23 | abrotman | esp 98FE |
| 21:49.24 | ke6isf | minamata: Beyond that, couldn't tell you - try asking in a Windows related channel. |
| 21:50.10 | minamata | I have no pb when I use the very same cable, with my actual PC but boot on XP |
| 21:50.20 | *** join/#debian davor (n=davor@81-236-18-154-no39.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 21:50.24 | *** join/#debian DJ-Marcuzz (n=root@84-245-14-199.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 21:50.26 | *** join/#debian devicenull (n=devicenu@64-252-110-93.adsl.snet.net) |
| 21:50.34 | Qzarka | I tryed to use the "m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200" command after installing and unpacking ipw2200-source, but it just askes me what ieee80211 is. Also, I can't find anything using apt-cache search, I know where to download the files, but where do I put them? |
| 21:50.41 | minamata | so resume PC1 XP, Pc2 W98 ; USB2USB cable : OK |
| 21:50.52 | *** join/#debian jdghost (n=jeff@82-32-180-96.cable.ubr05.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 21:50.58 | minamata | so resume PC1 linux, Pc2 W98 ; USB2USB cable : no |
| 21:51.19 | *** part/#debian jdghost (n=jeff@82-32-180-96.cable.ubr05.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 21:51.23 | unstable | Qzarka: What kernel does you use, what does uname -r tell you? |
| 21:51.37 | unstable | Qzarka: You can /join #ipw2200 for help also. |
| 21:51.44 | Qzarka | 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 21:51.54 | Qzarka | I have checked #ipw2200, there is noone there |
| 21:51.58 | *** join/#debian emptyhead (n=emptyhea@213-238-250-40.ske16.ac) |
| 21:52.03 | Qzarka | Unfortunately |
| 21:52.07 | *** join/#debian delmar (n=Delmar@203-114-178-231.inspire.net.nz) |
| 21:52.25 | unstable | Qzarka: What does apt-cache search ieee802 give you, put the results on www.rafb.net/paste |
| 21:52.46 | Qzarka | unstable: no results |
| 21:52.49 | ke6isf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.07 | unstable | Qzarka: hmm I get results |
| 21:53.14 | unstable | Qzarka: What versino of debian are you using? |
| 21:53.25 | Qzarka | sarge |
| 21:53.28 | *** join/#debian okaratas (n=gnu@85.98.51.3) |
| 21:53.28 | Qzarka | stable |
| 21:53.36 | livingtm | I wonder is the ipw2200 driver will work with my ipw 3945ABG.. the drivers arent quite out for that yet |
| 21:53.51 | *** join/#debian eno (n=eno@adsl-70-137-134-211.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:53.53 | Qzarka | I have non free contrib appended to my apt sources as well |
| 21:53.56 | *** join/#debian user-- (n=user@dhcp-198-205-57-69.cf-res.cfu.net) |
| 21:54.02 | MoRLoCh | ke6isf: I think it used for "downloading" video from DV enabled video cameras |
| 21:54.04 | Qzarka | I have gotten it to work before |
| 21:54.08 | Qzarka | Just don't remember how |
| 21:54.15 | *** join/#debian stoned (i=bunghole@ip68-12-72-181.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 21:54.22 | ke6isf | MoRLoCh: Firewire, in short? |
| 21:54.38 | MoRLoCh | ke6isf: yes hehe I thought you meant just the "raw" part |
| 21:54.41 | *** join/#debian Sonny (n=gonzalo@201.230.236.123) |
| 21:54.47 | unstable | Qzarka: I don't know if this is the best method, but what I would do is change my sources.list to unstable; then apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15 linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 linux-headers-2.6.15-1-686 ieee80211-source ieee80211softmac-headers-2.6.15-1 ieee80211softmac-modules-2.6.15-1-686; then I would reboot and compile ipw2200 |
| 21:54.58 | ke6isf | MoRLoCh: Wasn't sure what it was - just removed a lib that installed the device. |
| 21:55.04 | Sonny | hello, how can see the information of my lvm partitions? |
| 21:55.20 | unstable | Qzarka: then once I rebooted I would change my sources.list back to stable, and apt-get update; |
| 21:55.26 | unstable | Sonny: df -h |
| 21:55.27 | *** join/#debian drasko (n=drasko@kds7-041.ptt.yu) |
| 21:56.24 | *** join/#debian OmWezAddams (n=nickhors@64-131-32-74.usfamily.net) |
| 21:57.28 | *** join/#debian bucky (n=bucky@pdpc/supporter/active/bucky) |
| 21:59.42 | *** join/#debian TimeRider (n=time@timerider.co.uk) |
| 21:59.47 | Qzarka | unstable: What is 'linux'-source & 'linux'-headers & 'linux'-image? I would think it would be like 'kernel'-image etc.? |
| 22:00.11 | unstable | Qzarka: no, after sarge they changed the package names to linux-image |
| 22:00.22 | unstable | kernel-image doesn't make sense, because linux isn't hte only kernel |
| 22:00.35 | unstable | There are bsd kernels, net/open/free/dragonfly and hurd kernel |
| 22:00.40 | unstable | etc etc, so linux-image is more accurate. |
| 22:01.04 | unstable | So etch and all releases after etch will use this more accurate package naming for linux kernels. |
| 22:01.28 | Qzarka | unstable: Aaah, so it's the new naming scheme? |
| 22:01.48 | Qzarka | unstable: Also, what is etch? |
| 22:01.50 | unstable | yes, but it wasn't implemented until after sarge, so most people don't know about it. |
| 22:02.03 | Qzarka | unstable: Aaah, ok |
| 22:02.04 | unstable | Qzarka: etch is the next version of stable.(is comes after sarge(what you have)) |
| 22:02.08 | unstable | !etch |
| 22:02.08 | dpkg | hmm... etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 22:02.41 | *** join/#debian nnod (n=donn@xp000931.massey.ac.nz) |
| 22:03.30 | *** join/#debian nerdy2 (n=jeff@adsl-68-21-188-95.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 22:03.42 | Qzarka | unstable: Ok, but what is ieee80211softmac-*? |
| 22:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 500] by debhelper |
| 22:04.18 | *** join/#debian forcemstr (n=jon@p54A7DF27.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:05.36 | quitte | unstable: kernel-image makes sense as it uses a kernel for the debian arch you are currently using. you cant install a hurd kernel to your linux system and expect it to work |
| 22:05.40 | *** join/#debian jdghost (n=jeff@82-32-180-96.cable.ubr05.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:06.02 | *** join/#debian Acid`X (n=tim@201.243.245.31) |
| 22:06.09 | unstable | quitte: actually you can |
| 22:06.13 | quitte | unstable: the naming scheme was changed when udev dependet on a 2.6.something kernel or newer |
| 22:06.16 | abrotman | someone killed wikipedia! |
| 22:06.20 | quitte | unstable: example? |
| 22:06.22 | unstable | http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/ |
| 22:06.34 | *** join/#debian Sandreas (n=m@205.234.232.8) |
| 22:06.49 | *** part/#debian lietuvis (n=rytis@60-141.245.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 22:06.57 | quitte | unstable: hurd is a arch of it's own. you cannot just install a hurd kernel and all of a sudden you have a hurd system |
| 22:07.06 | phogg | abrotman: ? |
| 22:07.21 | *** join/#debian lsald (n=james@70.237.115.194) |
| 22:07.33 | unstable | quitte: I understand this. |
| 22:08.11 | Sandreas | how does wget indicate if a file has been incompletely downloaded? |
| 22:08.13 | *** join/#debian skon (n=skon@24-151-131-165.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) |
| 22:08.24 | avar | it exits |
| 22:08.41 | avar | and you can see the status of the download |
| 22:08.43 | phogg | Sandreas: it doesn't You do the detecting, and then tell wget -c. |
| 22:08.43 | quitte | unstable: so the naming scheme wasn't a problem itself. but the name was changed to make the upgrade to new udev easier |
| 22:08.45 | *** join/#debian [SEAWOLF] (n=seawolf@host166-58.pool871.interbusiness.it) |
| 22:08.46 | priscila | quitte: is the binary format (elf) different in hurd ? |
| 22:08.58 | [SEAWOLF] | ciao |
| 22:09.21 | Sandreas | what does wget -c do ? |
| 22:09.23 | *** join/#debian redguy (n=mati@adh248.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 22:09.29 | abrotman | quitte: hurd is not an archieecture |
| 22:09.55 | quitte | abrotman: a debian architecture? what's the proper name? |
| 22:09.56 | *** join/#debian maxb (n=Max_Bows@i-195-137-12-32.freedom2surf.net) |
| 22:10.38 | ke6isf | Kernel, I'd suspect. |
| 22:11.17 | abrotman | quitte: port .. |
| 22:11.19 | quitte | priscila: i don't think so. but glibc is linked against kernel-headers and those are different. also whole filesystem layout is different with the hurd |
| 22:11.39 | *** join/#debian mrhappy (n=nickhors@64-131-32-74.usfamily.net) |
| 22:11.49 | abrotman | !hurd |
| 22:11.49 | dpkg | hurd is, like, a POSIX compatible collection of servers that run on the GNU Mach microkernel, it is the core of the GNU system, see http://hurd.gnu.org, or a HIRD of Unix-Replacing Daemons. http://ports.debian.org/ports/hurd for Debian GNU/Hurd or /join #hug |
| 22:11.53 | quitte | abrotman: ok. i assumed it was architecture as dpkg-architecture outputs it that way |
| 22:12.34 | quitte | abrotman: well actually it doesn't |
| 22:12.43 | abrotman | !architecture |
| 22:12.44 | dpkg | well, architecture is a word for a design concept, it can be applied to software and hardware. In the common sense, it is often used as a synonym for "processor type", although that's not quite correct. |
| 22:13.28 | *** join/#debian TimeRider (n=time@timerider.co.uk) |
| 22:13.37 | Sandreas | how does wget indicate a partially downloaded file? is there a way to make it indicate them by adding a specified extension or such? |
| 22:14.20 | maxb | Argh! There appear to be 7 identd implementations in Debian, and I had to try 5 of them before I found one that worked with spamassassin :-( |
| 22:14.38 | *** join/#debian Eruantalon (n=hans@56344E27.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 22:15.11 | ke6isf | Ecade: Why are you pinging the channel? |
| 22:15.24 | streuner | Ecade: that was a bad idea |
| 22:15.45 | *** join/#debian xiel (n=xiel@c-68-60-207-212.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 22:16.18 | Sandreas | how does wget indicate a partially downloaded file? is there a way to make it indicate them by adding a specified extension or such? |
| 22:17.34 | *** join/#debian dorileo (n=dorileo@200.175.149.230.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 22:18.50 | *** join/#debian zcram (n=zcram@xor.uninet.ee) |
| 22:19.07 | *** join/#debian Hoso001 (n=david@cpe-024-168-235-209.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:19.16 | Hoso001 | hi all |
| 22:19.24 | ke6isf | !all |
| 22:19.24 | dpkg | All: no such nick/channel. Just ask your question, please - ask me about <ask>. a brand of laundry detergent in the United States, and it's not expected that this will answer, either. |
| 22:19.43 | *** join/#debian markos_ (n=markos@ppp56-adsl-197.ath.forthnet.gr) |
| 22:19.54 | Hoso001 | Can anyone help me install my nvidia Graphics card drivers? |
| 22:20.01 | *** join/#debian Qzarka (n=james@user-0ccsp0c.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 22:20.19 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 22:20.19 | dpkg | from memory, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 22:20.22 | Sandreas | how does wget indicate a partially downloaded file? is there a way to make it indicate them by adding a specified extension or such? |
| 22:20.43 | *** join/#debian meff (n=meff@ppp-69-148-16-71.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 22:22.26 | *** join/#debian cafuego_ (n=cafuego@ppp77-141.lns1.mel3.internode.on.net) |
| 22:22.26 | abrotman | read the man page |
| 22:22.36 | *** join/#debian Huwie (i=huw@cpc2-nthc6-0-0-cust673.nrth.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:25.37 | *** join/#debian Init5 (n=DHA@3E6B6BD2.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 22:26.21 | *** join/#debian bobbens (n=bobbens@197.Red-83-50-180.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:26.36 | *** part/#debian blaamann (n=rune@144.84-48-18.nextgentel.com) |
| 22:27.05 | *** part/#debian markos_ (n=markos@ppp56-adsl-197.ath.forthnet.gr) |
| 22:28.03 | TheBest | tell me about e2fsprogs :) |
| 22:28.35 | *** join/#debian wolffc (i=wolff@dslb-084-063-000-170.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:29.02 | *** join/#debian nias (n=nias@dslc-213-023-146-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:29.07 | *** part/#debian minamata (n=nkkm@lns-bzn-9-82-254-108-95.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 22:29.50 | *** join/#debian chance2105 (n=chance@ppp-70-254-9-234.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 22:29.54 | *** join/#debian dorileo (n=dorileo@200.175.149.230.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 22:30.11 | *** join/#debian cusco (i=cusco@wrong.domain.name) |
| 22:30.51 | chance2105 | I'm running pppoeconf to find my DSL modem. It doesn't find it. :) Not sure what to do - I know it works, because I'm connecting to this chatroom via that very modem. |
| 22:31.20 | *** join/#debian TheBlueWizard (i=TheBlueW@ts001d0612.wdc-dc.xod.concentric.net) |
| 22:31.27 | nvz | chance2105: if you are connected through that modem now than wtf do you need to detect it? |
| 22:31.40 | chance2105 | nvz: Because consumer routers suck. |
| 22:31.43 | nvz | chance2105: only the device, usually a router connected to the modem need be aware of it |
| 22:31.46 | *** join/#debian Stork (n=alex@storkey.plus.com) |
| 22:31.46 | *** join/#debian blazefx_ (n=blaze@71.143.215.32) |
| 22:31.48 | blazefx_ | Hey all |
| 22:32.02 | nvz | chance2105: so the router doesnt to pppoe you are saying? |
| 22:32.04 | Stork | can anyone show me an example sources.list with which i can install java-package?? |
| 22:32.09 | lord_rob | how do I change my email address for reportbug ? |
| 22:32.20 | chance2105 | nvz: It *does* do pppoe -- I just am not fond of having to restart it every half hour. |
| 22:32.27 | nvz | chance2105: heh. |
| 22:32.52 | nvz | chance2105: yeah that sucks. I got cable so I dont have any carnal knowledge of pppoe |
| 22:33.01 | *** join/#debian Trixsey (i=secret@c-139072d5.012-2011-73746f31.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:33.11 | chance2105 | The thernet driver is active and works -- I'm accessing my router via that port. |
| 22:33.32 | TheBest | Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/unstable/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 82.94.249.158 80] |
| 22:33.59 | ke6isf | TheBest: There is no security update for Sid. |
| 22:34.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 488] by debhelper |
| 22:34.01 | Stork | can anyone show me an example sources.list with which i can install java-package?? |
| 22:34.11 | ke6isf | !tell Stork -about java |
| 22:34.16 | chance2105 | I shut down network (/etc/init.d/networking stop) .. move the dsl cable over to the computer, run pppoeconf as root .. and it runs right past the port where it's connected without finding it. |
| 22:34.17 | TheBest | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.debian.org unstable/updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_unstable_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 22:34.17 | nvz | !info java-package |
| 22:34.17 | lord_rob | TheBest: there are no security updates for unstable |
| 22:34.19 | dpkg | java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 0.27 (sid), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 336 kB |
| 22:34.21 | *** join/#debian chealer (n=chealer@pdpc/supporter/student/chealer) |
| 22:34.32 | nvz | TheBest: there is no security for unstable |
| 22:34.43 | Stork | ke6isf, wtf? i can use java on ubuntu :\ |
| 22:34.48 | blazefx | Hey I have just installed ndiswrappers and installed my drivers for my wireless card. Typing ndiswrapper -l lists that it is installed, and my hardware is working properly and I do ndiswrapper -m and depmod -a, and I try to execute modprobe nsidwrapper and it says Can't locate module ndiswrapper. How can I load the Ndiswrappers |
| 22:34.48 | chance2105 | Does debian support the roaring-penguin pppoe configuration stuff? |
| 22:34.48 | TheBest | lord_rob i whant to get update with mysql 5.x |
| 22:34.50 | *** join/#debian chuckyp (n=histo@adsl-68-76-118-200.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net) |
| 22:34.52 | *** join/#debian Epilog (n=duckman@217.129.133.207) |
| 22:35.01 | *** join/#debian gravity (n=david@pool-141-157-184-73.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:35.02 | ke6isf | Stork: Well, this is Debian, and you can use Java on debian too. Read the factoid and follow the instructions. |
| 22:35.08 | chuckyp | should I bother removing gnome if i'm running kde as my sole wm? |
| 22:35.16 | nvz | Stork: /msg dpkg contrib |
| 22:35.29 | nvz | Stork: apt-setup, say yes to contrib |
| 22:35.33 | blazefx | any ideas? |
| 22:35.35 | chance2105 | chuckyp: If it doesn't bother you, it doesn't bother us. |
| 22:35.36 | chuckyp | And if I where to remove gnome how would I do so without messing with packages that kde is using as well. |
| 22:35.40 | ke6isf | chuckyp: No, because you might run something that requires gtk. |
| 22:35.49 | chuckyp | ke6isf, thats what I figure. |
| 22:35.50 | nvz | !info mysql |
| 22:36.19 | abrotman | !remove gnome |
| 22:36.19 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 22:36.21 | *** join/#debian xapaho (n=xapaho@bdv75-4-82-226-115-75.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:36.42 | TheBest | !tell thebest about mysql |
| 22:36.55 | ke6isf | !tell TheBest -about msg the bot |
| 22:37.01 | abrotman | for the 10th time |
| 22:37.09 | *** join/#debian pack (n=pack@216.204.206.146) |
| 22:37.22 | TheBest | The addressCharacter "!" is to get my attention in a normal channel. Please leave it off when messaging me directly. |
| 22:37.30 | TheBest | no work in prv msg |
| 22:37.45 | abrotman | no freaking kidding |
| 22:37.46 | Stork | nvz, at no point does it mention contrib |
| 22:37.49 | abrotman | /msg dpkg mysql |
| 22:37.52 | chuckyp | One more quicky I'm running testing and want to stay current with packages so I should run apt-get upgrade every so often or should I be running a different apt command like dist-upgrade? |
| 22:37.53 | ke6isf | TheBest: That is because you don't need to do "!tell (nick) about (factoid)" in privmsg. You just do "factoid". |
| 22:37.57 | nvz | TheBest: /msg dpkg is used in place of ! |
| 22:37.58 | Stork | ke6isf, that factoid doesn't actually solve my problem :\ |
| 22:38.08 | ke6isf | Stork: Then you didn't follow the instructions therein. |
| 22:38.14 | abrotman | !install java |
| 22:38.14 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
| 22:38.22 | abrotman | says contrib right there |
| 22:38.24 | ke6isf | Stork: Either that, or you didn't read it in its entirety. |
| 22:38.28 | TheBest | i msg in prv " !tell about install mysql " |
| 22:38.32 | chance2105 | Oh yeah .. and Debian seems not to like my laser printer (a HP no less). The kernel finds it in dmesg. When I add the printer via CUPS, it finds it, correctly identifies the printer .. when I send a test page, nothing. It shows "Idle" as the printer state, but when I go view the "completed jobs" it shows the test page being cancelled. When I re-try the test page, it gives me "client-error-not-possible" |
| 22:38.40 | Stork | ke6isf, i already know how to install java, but i don't know how to add the source to my sources.list |
| 22:38.46 | ke6isf | TheBest: As I said, that's improper syntax. |
| 22:38.52 | abrotman | !tell Stork about contrib |
| 22:39.02 | ke6isf | TheBest: In privmsg with dpkg, if you were looking for, say, mysql, you just do "mysql". |
| 22:39.15 | TheBest | ok thanks |
| 22:39.16 | *** join/#debian dorileo (n=dorileo@200.175.149.230.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 22:39.17 | ke6isf | Stork: It puts the word "contrib" at the end of each line. |
| 22:39.26 | ke6isf | ..and puts the lotion on the hands. |
| 22:39.27 | Stork | ah okay |
| 22:39.39 | abrotman | ke6isf: i just got done watching joe dirt |
| 22:39.40 | chuckyp | ke6isf, lol |
| 22:39.50 | ke6isf | abrotman: YOu know, I haven't seen that yet. |
| 22:40.04 | chance2105 | Ah. the CUPS error log gives me: Hint: Do you have ESP Ghostscript installed? |
| 22:40.11 | chuckyp | ke6isf, apt-get upgrade the proper way to stay up to date or should I use apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 22:40.15 | abrotman | ke6isf: let me give you the highlights .. 'Brittany Daniels" .. that's it .. that's all you need to know :) |
| 22:40.20 | *** part/#debian Julio (n=Julio@84.77.23.170) |
| 22:40.29 | ke6isf | chuckyp: "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" |
| 22:40.30 | blazefx | Hey I have just installed ndiswrappers and installed my drivers for my wireless card. Typing ndiswrapper -l lists that it is installed, and my hardware is working properly and I do ndiswrapper -m and depmod -a, and I try to execute modprobe nsidwrapper and it says Can't locate module ndiswrapper. How can I load the Ndiswrappers |
| 22:40.34 | *** join/#debian ninjak (n=ninjak@adsl-ull-180-139.41-151.net24.it) |
| 22:40.36 | chuckyp | abrotman, yeah she rocks |
| 22:40.45 | ke6isf | abrotman: Ya know, I might have to see it anyway. =^^= |
| 22:40.49 | nvz | Stork: oh well, thats stupid it used to. I've confirmed that it doesnt anymore through |
| 22:40.50 | TheBest | how do i install the mysql5.x ? |
| 22:40.51 | chuckyp | ke6isf, gotcha so used to yum have to get it out of my head |
| 22:41.00 | blazefx | apt-get install msyql |
| 22:41.06 | blazefx | stoopid |
| 22:41.08 | TheBest | will be 4.x |
| 22:41.16 | abrotman | there is no mysql5 in sarge |
| 22:41.21 | nvz | Stork: it used to ask after selection of a source if you wanted to use contrib, non-free, and security |
| 22:41.22 | abrotman | don't use mysql .. use postgresql |
| 22:41.26 | blazefx | yup |
| 22:41.30 | blazefx | problem solved |
| 22:41.53 | TheBest | abrotman dont use Debian use Freebsd. |
| 22:42.01 | TheBest | i need mysql no pgsql |
| 22:42.24 | abrotman | TheBest: mysql is the MS Access of databases .. |
| 22:42.31 | blazefx | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.49 | abrotman | it's really complete and utter crap . i hope oracle kills it |
| 22:42.57 | ke6isf | abrotman: That's like saying that abiword is the MS Word of word processors. Kinda redundant. |
| 22:43.31 | blazefx | ke6isf i haven't herd you say anything nice all day today |
| 22:43.40 | nvz | at many stages of development abiword was worse than MS Word even the dos version |
| 22:43.48 | abrotman | maybe his cheerios fell in hte crapper :) |
| 22:43.57 | ke6isf | blazefx: ...no coffee. |
| 22:44.07 | nvz | abrotman: dont they all eventually? |
| 22:44.08 | *** part/#debian Stork (n=alex@storkey.plus.com) |
| 22:44.13 | abrotman | !smack nvz |
| 22:44.13 | *** join/#debian OmWezAddams (n=nickhors@64-131-32-74.usfamily.net) |
| 22:44.17 | chance2105 | Ah .. we have progress. Seems CUPS is trying to print now, since I've installed Ghostscript. Now it's hung at 2% progress on printing the first page. |
| 22:44.33 | *** join/#debian Nand0 (i=nando@unaffiliated/nand0) |
| 22:44.35 | blazefx | lol |
| 22:44.40 | blazefx | have fun chance2105 |
| 22:45.13 | ke6isf | blazefx: At any rate, if you really want, I could sling a random "Jane, you ignorant slut" around. =^_^= |
| 22:45.14 | nvz | I love how like in windows the spooler will say printing 14 of 2 pages |
| 22:45.28 | blazefx | thats nice |
| 22:45.34 | nvz | i hate printers |
| 22:45.39 | *** join/#debian nmourey (n=nmourey@70.109.157.206) |
| 22:45.45 | ke6isf | nvz: It's new math. =^^= |
| 22:45.47 | abrotman | people still buy printers? |
| 22:45.59 | *** join/#debian kronoz (n=kronoz@ACC80AFA.ipt.aol.com) |
| 22:46.01 | chance2105 | This is usally an incredibly trivial task, setting up my printer. |
| 22:46.06 | *** join/#debian JohnDoh (n=jeff@82-32-180-96.cable.ubr05.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:46.08 | *** join/#debian tobehz (i=agnid@ip68-9-229-234.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 22:46.09 | *** join/#debian FinkN (n=finkn@h49n2fls33o817.telia.com) |
| 22:46.12 | chance2105 | Normally Just Works(tm) |
| 22:48.01 | nmourey | Anyone have pointers to upgrading to 2.6 kernel? |
| 22:48.05 | tobehz | My internet seems to be all fucked up. Everytime I renew my IP from my route, the DNS gets messed up. So I manually set it, and if I ping right away it works. Then, like 5 seconds later, it stops working. Ping and things like apt-get just hang. If I fidget around and change the resolv.conf and spam ping it will work again, but will die just like before. When I do dhclient eth0, it says SIOCADDRT: Network is down yet I can talk to computers on m |
| 22:48.17 | *** join/#debian gilianima (n=yanimax_@lab75-3-82-235-26-179.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:48.17 | deadcat | nmourey: apt-cache search linux-image |
| 22:48.21 | nvz | acetone evaporates incredibly rapidly right? |
| 22:48.24 | ke6isf | nmourey: Install the package through apt-get and reboot. Just Works(TM). |
| 22:48.46 | ke6isf | nvz: Not *incredibly*, but fairly so. |
| 22:48.57 | abrotman | deadcat: that'll work in etch/sid .. not sarge |
| 22:49.09 | deadcat | abrotman: oops. oh true.. forgot.. |
| 22:49.18 | nvz | ke6isf: well I spilled some on my desk earlier this morning around maybe 11am, and its like going on 6pm so I think its safe now :P |
| 22:49.27 | ke6isf | nvz: Is it dry? |
| 22:49.30 | nvz | ke6isf: I am surprised it didnt eat the finish off the dekstop |
| 22:49.34 | deadcat | abrotman: stupid kernel-image and linux-image |
| 22:49.38 | nvz | ke6isf: yeah I dried it when it happened. |
| 22:49.38 | *** join/#debian Kurt (i=kmw@evvlinlwt-nas-07-s134.cinergycom.net) |
| 22:49.47 | ke6isf | nvz: Just air out the room if you haven't already. |
| 22:50.36 | xapaho | good evening |
| 22:51.03 | nvz | just breaking up my herbs here.. dont need any acetone in there :P |
| 22:51.56 | nvz | I just got too many chemicals around |
| 22:51.59 | *** part/#debian maxb (n=Max_Bows@i-195-137-12-32.freedom2surf.net) |
| 22:52.00 | blazefx | lol cool nvz |
| 22:52.03 | blazefx | whats acetone for? |
| 22:52.08 | ke6isf | nvz: Don't do that then. =^^= |
| 22:52.08 | nvz | nobody keeps this many chemicals around their pc |
| 22:53.29 | chance2105 | Hmm. "Parallel port busy; will retry in 30 seconds..." .. what's up with that. |
| 22:53.46 | chance2105 | Busy being connected to the only thing on it, my printer, which is doing nothing. |
| 22:53.48 | nvz | its a highly flammable liquid at room temperature that is used as a very rapid solvent |
| 22:53.52 | nvz | has countless uses |
| 22:54.06 | nvz | it can clean things, but it can also melt them :P |
| 22:54.20 | ke6isf | blazefx: One common application is nail polish remover. |
| 22:54.24 | blazefx | I know |
| 22:54.28 | blazefx | I am reading the wikipedia |
| 22:54.29 | nvz | like if I cleaned my keyboard with it, it would come so clean the paint and plastic would come off |
| 22:54.32 | blazefx | but what are you using it for |
| 22:54.36 | blazefx | you can use it in drugs too |
| 22:55.01 | *** join/#debian IsaacHaze (n=a@212-127-154-155.cable.quicknet.nl) |
| 22:55.14 | tobehz | nvz: you'd probably have to let it sit there |
| 22:55.18 | blazefx | hey I hate to keep asking this: |
| 22:55.23 | *** join/#debian sassytomato (n=etch@modemcable097.209-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 22:55.25 | blazefx | Hey I have just installed ndiswrappers and installed my drivers for my wireless card. Typing ndiswrapper -l lists that it is installed, and my hardware is working properly and I do ndiswrapper -m and depmod -a, and I try to execute modprobe nsidwrapper and it says Can't locate module ndiswrapper. How can I load the Ndiswrappers |
| 22:55.44 | nvz | I use it to remove nail polish and stuff like that.. I've used nail polish to mark things for a long time.. you can color code, and its not effected by heat..etc good for marking transistors or chips..etc |
| 22:55.49 | chuckyp | blazefx, how did you instlal ndiswrapper? |
| 22:56.02 | nvz | problem is the only way to unmark it can damage the surface :P |
| 22:56.25 | nvz | etching works better in some cases |
| 22:56.32 | nvz | but more perminant |
| 22:56.34 | chuckyp | blazefx, and are you doing ndiswrapper -m as root? |
| 22:56.35 | *** join/#debian TasteOfDeath (n=tod@i53874C2E.versanet.de) |
| 22:56.51 | Kurt | why do Democrats hate Jews? |
| 22:56.55 | blazefx | chuckyp apt-get |
| 22:57.00 | blazefx | and yes as root |
| 22:57.30 | *** part/#debian heiner (n=heiner@pdbn-d9bf273b.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:57.36 | chuckyp | blazefx, should be working then there must be a problem when you do ndiswrapper -m what does that return? |
| 22:57.36 | *** join/#debian padpad (n=w00t@p50847CC7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:57.55 | blazefx | it says its already loaded |
| 22:58.02 | blazefx | the alias |
| 22:58.09 | *** join/#debian mortum (n=fjbf@84.232.68.214) |
| 22:58.19 | chuckyp | blazefx, okay now depmod -a |
| 22:58.19 | *** join/#debian FliesLikeALap (n=Ryan@eggplant-11.dynamic2.rpi.edu) |
| 22:58.29 | blazefx | okay |
| 22:58.32 | blazefx | that works |
| 22:58.34 | nvz | nail polish is the cheapest most semi perminant thing I know of.. I even use it sometime to colorcode keys for kids and stuff like that. some nail polish is expensive, but just for marking things you buy the cheap stuff |
| 22:58.39 | chuckyp | blazefx, now modprobe ndiswrapper |
| 22:58.48 | blazefx | nope |
| 22:58.52 | *** join/#debian Shadowcat (i=Ecto@c-145f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:58.53 | chuckyp | whats it say |
| 22:59.01 | blazefx | says it can't locate module ndiswrapper |
| 22:59.08 | chuckyp | wth |
| 22:59.12 | blazefx | which is odd |
| 22:59.13 | blazefx | i know |
| 22:59.14 | *** join/#debian OmWezAddams (n=nickhors@64-131-32-74.usfamily.net) |
| 22:59.20 | blazefx | i don't know why it is acting up |
| 22:59.30 | chance2105 | ok, now cupsd is hung, saying: "Starting ESP Ghostscript 7.07.1..." |
| 22:59.48 | chuckyp | blazefx, i've never really had problems with ndiswrapper. try to reinstall it. apt-get --reinstall ndiswrapper or however you installed it. |
| 23:00.00 | blazefx | okay |
| 23:00.13 | chuckyp | blazefx, have to go to work |
| 23:01.19 | chance2105 | how can you find what files were installed from a particular package? |
| 23:01.28 | abrotman | dpkg -L package |
| 23:01.28 | dpkg | No packages found matching package |
| 23:01.29 | nvz | dpkg -L package |
| 23:01.31 | blazefx | peace |
| 23:02.22 | Rawplayer | hey |
| 23:02.31 | Rawplayer | anyone got debian mails from the lists today? |
| 23:02.40 | Rawplayer | for some reason i dont get any mails sinds one day |
| 23:02.49 | Rawplayer | or is something broken? |
| 23:02.49 | abrotman | since? |
| 23:03.31 | Rawplayer | last mail i've got from murphy.debian.org was @ Mar 4 18:27:26 |
| 23:03.51 | chance2105 | how can you find what the suggested and recommended packages are for a package after you have installed it? |
| 23:03.59 | Rawplayer | i get the mails from netfilter lists though |
| 23:04.09 | nvz | hmm says this stuff will dissolve super glue.. I've used it for dissolving all sorts of things, but I didnt know it could unstick super glue |
| 23:04.12 | abrotman | apt-cache show <pkg< |
| 23:04.14 | nekostar | apt-cache show-dep package |
| 23:04.15 | nekostar | ya |
| 23:04.19 | nekostar | not the dep |
| 23:04.20 | nekostar | oops |
| 23:04.24 | nekostar | :/ |
| 23:04.36 | *** join/#debian markybob (n=markybob@c-67-163-28-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:04.48 | chealer | Rawplayer: I did get mails from Debian lists in the last 24 hours |
| 23:04.54 | *** join/#debian beardy (n=beardy@unaffiliated/beardy) |
| 23:05.04 | Rawplayer | chealer: which lists? |
| 23:05.17 | chealer | Rawplayer: d-release |
| 23:07.02 | Rawplayer | wird |
| 23:07.12 | Rawplayer | my mail works though |
| 23:07.21 | Rawplayer | but nothing on the logfiles from debian |
| 23:07.29 | abrotman | maybe you got unsubscribed? |
| 23:07.36 | *** join/#debian beyond (n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 23:07.56 | *** join/#debian cmatei (n=cmatei@home-307461.b.astral.ro) |
| 23:07.56 | chance2105 | Aight. my cups daemon is stuck, saying "Starting ESP Ghostscript 7.07.1..." .. what might cause this |
| 23:07.57 | *** join/#debian itachi-uo (i=EatMySho@h629321.serverkompetenz.net) |
| 23:08.01 | nvz | speaking of mail I got a letter from Leetsdale Borough asking for % of my income.. they must be crazy |
| 23:08.12 | *** join/#debian freeone3000 (n=james@64-193-216-210.wco.clearwire-dns.net) |
| 23:08.48 | debiankid | nvz hey i finally install the blootbot i have it running on my server |
| 23:09.05 | nvz | I only worked in this town maybe a month or so last year |
| 23:09.05 | coolpix | gn8 |
| 23:09.21 | nvz | I dont own any property or vehicles here.. so they can kiss my ass :P |
| 23:09.30 | tobehz | My internet seems to be all fucked up. Everytime I renew my IP from my route, the DNS gets messed up. So I manually set it, and if I ping right away it works. Then, like 5 seconds later, it stops working. Ping and things like apt-get just hang. If I fidget around and change the resolv.conf and spam ping it will work again, but will die just like before. When I do dhclient eth0, it says SIOCADDRT: Network is down yet I can talk to computers on m |
| 23:09.30 | nvz | debiankid: cool |
| 23:09.37 | debiankid | now i how can i configure the bot to search on my debian files ? |
| 23:09.48 | abrotman | read the docs .. i'm sure it'sthere |
| 23:09.49 | *** join/#debian tomas_ (i=255@c83-253-96-246.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 23:09.55 | nvz | debiankid: dondelelcaro runs dpkg if you'd like to ask him about obtaining a backup copy of the database |
| 23:10.11 | debiankid | nvz ?? |
| 23:10.13 | nvz | debiankid: if you want to actually retain the info "dpkg" has. |
| 23:10.17 | beardy | dpkg: your factoids |
| 23:10.17 | dpkg | My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. there is a searchable database of my factoids at http://dpkg.vireo.org/ |
| 23:10.34 | Rawplayer | abrotman: on all the different lists from debian |
| 23:10.38 | Rawplayer | that would be really odd |
| 23:10.38 | debiankid | nvz lol sorry but i dont understand |
| 23:10.50 | debiankid | nvz please slow i am new heheh |
| 23:10.58 | *** join/#debian leri (n=leri@c-24-17-158-172.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:11.00 | abrotman | Rawplayer: not really .. |
| 23:11.03 | nvz | debiankid: your blootbot is _like_ dpkg but doesnt know what dpkg knows |
| 23:11.24 | nvz | debiankid: if you are using it for debian purposes you may want to d/l dpkg's database |
| 23:11.42 | debiankid | nvz exactly |
| 23:11.56 | nvz | some of the data there like explaniations of debian tasks are in its database |
| 23:12.23 | debiankid | nvz mmmm |
| 23:12.40 | *** join/#debian tomas_ (i=255@c83-253-96-246.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 23:12.50 | nvz | debiankid: you can program your bot yourself, but some of the things dpkg knows may be of use to you |
| 23:12.50 | debiankid | nvz for example i have to add to the bot database the database os the dpkg ? |
| 23:13.04 | Rawplayer | abrotman: why/who would do such a thing? |
| 23:13.23 | nvz | debiankid: the bot uses a database backend to store its factoids. |
| 23:13.33 | debiankid | nvz for example when i type find postfix he just failed |
| 23:13.49 | nvz | debiankid: finding files is a built-in function |
| 23:13.51 | mcm | are there any live cd's with preinstalled java? |
| 23:14.07 | Rawplayer | mcm: afaik there are no debian live cd's |
| 23:14.11 | nvz | dpkg: you may need to install apt-file or something.. I am not sure if the blootbot has its own fucntions or what |
| 23:14.16 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (n=lordlame@p548EDE88.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:14.17 | blazefx | Hey I have just installed ndiswrappers and installed my drivers for my wireless card. Typing ndiswrapper -l lists that it is installed, and my hardware is working properly and I do ndiswrapper -m and depmod -a, and I try to execute modprobe nsidwrapper and it says Can't locate module ndiswrapper. How can I load the Ndiswrappers |
| 23:14.24 | abrotman | Rawplayer: i think if you can't be delivered to .. you'll get dropped |
| 23:14.35 | abrotman | Rawplayer: just resubscribe. . i doubt you'll get two |
| 23:14.38 | *** join/#debian JohnDoh (n=jeff@unaffiliated/JohnDoh) |
| 23:14.41 | mcm | Rawplayer: yes. i can imagine that. thanks. |
| 23:14.55 | mcm | damn i hate that java.... |
| 23:14.55 | Rawplayer | abrotman: i will try |
| 23:14.57 | *** join/#debian debiankid (i=EatMySho@h629321.serverkompetenz.net) |
| 23:14.58 | markybob | abrotman, http://www.kde-look.org/content/files/35567-debian%20tattoo%201024x640.png |
| 23:15.14 | *** join/#debian SPF (n=spf@ip3e83ad48.speed.planet.nl) |
| 23:15.17 | debiankid | nvz sorry lost connection |
| 23:15.22 | abrotman | markybob: i thought it was gonna be the umbrella hat :) |
| 23:15.32 | markybob | abrotman, heh |
| 23:15.33 | abrotman | markybob: obviously fake ;) |
| 23:15.50 | markybob | abrotman, obviously :) still fun |
| 23:16.00 | nvz | debiankid: in Soviet Russia, connection looses you. |
| 23:16.18 | debiankid | nvz heheh ok where we was |
| 23:16.19 | abrotman | loses |
| 23:16.43 | debiankid | nvz to configure my bot to load the dpkg database of my server right? |
| 23:16.53 | *** join/#debian [MM] (i=_@201008068070.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 23:17.00 | nvz | I have no idea |
| 23:17.07 | debiankid | nvz for example find postfix |
| 23:17.17 | SPF | I'm having trouble with hdd's > 32Gb, trying to find out howto install bootloader on fd0. On install fd0 was not detected, so I tried "linux root=/dev/hda1" which resulted in kernel panic |
| 23:17.22 | debiankid | nvz and he show me all abaliable on my server |
| 23:17.55 | abrotman | read the blootbot docs |
| 23:18.16 | SPF | blootbot? |
| 23:18.26 | markybob | !blootbot |
| 23:18.26 | dpkg | somebody said blootbot was a severely mutiliated infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
| 23:19.11 | freeone3000 | Perl. |
| 23:19.23 | freeone3000 | It's not as bad as people say it is. |
| 23:19.37 | *** join/#debian ratm` (n=ratm_@p508FBBA5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:20.02 | *** join/#debian dn4 (n=dn4@cpe-24-26-237-72.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 23:20.02 | *** join/#debian devin (n=devin@69-172-40-18.frdrmd.adelphia.net) |
| 23:20.15 | dn4 | what is a good way to create a website with an easy point in click method? |
| 23:20.26 | debiankid | mm |
| 23:20.28 | abrotman | point and click |
| 23:20.35 | markybob | dn4, check out nvu |
| 23:20.38 | freeone3000 | OpenOffice.org |
| 23:20.49 | *** join/#debian crashbg (n=crashbg@85.187.187.2) |
| 23:20.50 | yawg | dn4: nvu |
| 23:20.59 | chance2105 | dn4: mozilla composer |
| 23:21.11 | *** join/#debian k-man (n=jason@unaffiliated/k-man) |
| 23:21.14 | crashbg | dpkg: lirc |
| 23:21.14 | dpkg | [lirc] Linux Infra-Red Control. It allows linux to receive and tranceive stuff over infra-red. It's at http://fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de/~columbus/lirc/, or now at http://www.lirc.org |
| 23:21.19 | SPF | I dont see why blootbot is related to my problem? |
| 23:21.31 | k-man | i believe i have some sort of corruption that is causing firefox to crash all the time |
| 23:21.41 | markybob | SPF, it wasnt meant for you |
| 23:21.43 | k-man | maybe in the chrome or .xul stuff? |
| 23:21.56 | k-man | whats the procedure for a compleetly fresh install? |
| 23:21.59 | devin | hey can someone help me.. im getting this error when i close filelight *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x41810ac0 *** KCrash: Application 'filelight' crashing... |
| 23:22.12 | SPF | oh, ok, guess I'll wait a bit |
| 23:22.18 | nvz | I hate when I go to the office and start recieving a fax and it runs out of paper. |
| 23:22.34 | nvz | then you gotta walk down the hall with your pants around your ankles.. |
| 23:22.36 | nvz | heh |
| 23:22.37 | *** join/#debian xanatos_ (n=xanatos@201.135.122.157) |
| 23:22.49 | markybob | nvz, interesting office environment you've got there |
| 23:22.50 | crashbg | can someone help me with compiling lirc-modules and 2.6.8-2-686? i've already apt installed lirc |
| 23:22.54 | nvz | markybob: heh |
| 23:23.01 | debiankid | nvz i think there is no doc abaliable |
| 23:23.03 | dn4 | thank you everyone for the advice |
| 23:23.04 | debiankid | avaliable :( |
| 23:23.38 | crashbg | in /usr/src i have kernel-headers-2.6.8-2 kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686 kernel-kbuild-2.6-3 kernel-source-2.6.8 modules(lirc) |
| 23:23.39 | *** join/#debian lex (n=alex@201.135.5.218) |
| 23:23.48 | freeone3000 | The trouble with blootbot is a lack of documentaiton... |
| 23:23.54 | freeone3000 | Otherwise, I would use it. |
| 23:24.12 | abrotman | so write some! |
| 23:24.18 | *** join/#debian wolffc (i=wolff@dslb-084-063-043-190.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:24.18 | nvz | there is Tim Riker, dondelelcaro, SimonRaven, resiak//et blootbot users |
| 23:24.21 | nvz | bug them :P |
| 23:24.25 | nvz | they know how it works |
| 23:24.35 | *** join/#debian Dibbler (n=Dibbler@zidane.pi-net.net) |
| 23:24.43 | lex | Here is an interesting mail migration problem. All users are authed by ldap, i have no plaintext passwords... I want to migrate all mail from, say, mbox to cyrrus. But i dont have passwords. Is there a pam module that will allways authent positively? |
| 23:24.43 | nvz | !maint blootbot |
| 23:24.45 | dpkg | blootbot: Neil McGovern <neilm@debian.org> |
| 23:25.04 | nvz | hmm I thought Tim was maintaining that.. he must have just been sitting in for awhile |
| 23:25.52 | *** join/#debian Daedalus_ (n=ngallahe@carbon.citi.umich.edu) |
| 23:25.58 | nvz | most everyone agrees that while the blootbot is nifty, its horrible and needs to be rewritten |
| 23:27.19 | *** join/#debian hashing (i=wise@201.14.230.73) |
| 23:27.24 | obscuresoul | the wxvlc package provides an interface like the windowz? |
| 23:28.21 | *** join/#debian jpaulo (n=jpaulo@200-233-162-014.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 23:28.29 | blazefx | Hey I have just installed ndiswrappers and installed my drivers for my wireless card. Typing ndiswrapper -l lists that it is installed, and my hardware is working properly and I do ndiswrapper -m and depmod -a, and I try to execute modprobe nsidwrapper and it says Can't locate module ndiswrapper. How can I load the Ndiswrappers |
| 23:28.58 | *** part/#debian jpaulo (n=jpaulo@200-233-162-014.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 23:29.17 | resiak | nvz: I certainly agree |
| 23:29.32 | blazefx | !!! |
| 23:29.32 | blazefx | ! |
| 23:29.32 | dpkg | No sóc el teu puto indicador de csh |
| 23:29.32 | blazefx | ! |
| 23:29.33 | blazefx | !| |
| 23:29.33 | *** part/#debian blazefx (n=blaze@71.143.215.32) |
| 23:29.34 | dpkg | pipe |
| 23:29.39 | *** join/#debian blazefx (n=blaze@71.143.215.32) |
| 23:29.43 | blazefx | sorry |
| 23:29.47 | blazefx | needed to get that out |
| 23:29.54 | *** join/#debian gut (n=killme@24-247-133-125.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 23:29.55 | gut | DCC SEND "(#MATH-SAYS_FUCK_YOU-#MATHSAYS_FUCK_YOU-#MATHSAYS_FUCK_YOU)" 0 0 0 |
| 23:29.57 | *** join/#debian xiel (n=xiel@c-68-60-207-212.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 23:30.00 | *** join/#debian JohnDoh (n=jeff@82-32-180-96.cable.ubr05.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:30.29 | *** join/#debian erikm (n=erikm@CPE-65-25-241-194.mn.res.rr.com) |
| 23:30.30 | *** join/#debian Acid`X (n=tim@201.243.245.31) |
| 23:30.37 | *** join/#debian nefertum (n=jon@106.Red-213-96-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:30.45 | *** join/#debian xanatos_ (n=xanatos@201.135.122.157) |
| 23:30.58 | gut | DCC SEND "(#MATH-SAYS_FUCK_YOU-#MATHSAYS_FUCK_YOU-#MATHSAYS_FUCK_YOU)" 0 0 0 |
| 23:31.06 | *** join/#debian LinuxNIT (n=david@68.93.136.141) |
| 23:31.13 | blazefx | Hey I have just installed ndiswrappers and installed my drivers for my wireless card. Typing ndiswrapper -l lists that it is installed, and my hardware is working properly and I do ndiswrapper -m and depmod -a, and I try to execute modprobe nsidwrapper and it says Can't locate module ndiswrapper. How can I load the Ndiswrappers |
| 23:31.21 | *** join/#debian nefertum (n=jon@106.Red-213-96-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:32.00 | *** join/#debian xiel (n=xiel@c-68-60-207-212.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 23:33.07 | *** join/#debian dave-az (i=dsanders@ip70-162-129-35.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 23:33.15 | blazefx | what |
| 23:33.19 | blazefx | what you want? |
| 23:33.28 | streuner | blazefx: did you read http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/FAQ ? |
| 23:34.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 481] by debhelper |
| 23:34.08 | blazefx | yeah |
| 23:34.11 | *** part/#debian TheBlueWizard (i=TheBlueW@ts001d0612.wdc-dc.xod.concentric.net) |
| 23:34.13 | *** join/#debian Acid`X (n=tim@201.243.245.31) |
| 23:34.18 | blazefx | it doesn't tell you whaat to do if modprobe doesn't work |
| 23:34.22 | SPF | ok, I tried linux26 root=/dev/hda1, but he cannot find hda1 (prolly because it's larger than 32Gb). But while installing Debian it did detect it. |
| 23:34.51 | SPF | it now says kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block 0,0 |
| 23:34.55 | *** part/#debian lex (n=alex@201.135.5.218) |
| 23:35.01 | *** join/#debian JohnDoh (n=jeff@unaffiliated/JohnDoh) |
| 23:35.24 | blazefx | SPF your fucked |
| 23:35.29 | *** join/#debian erikm (n=erikm@CPE-65-25-241-194.mn.res.rr.com) |
| 23:35.33 | blazefx | you need to reinstall |
| 23:35.33 | *** join/#debian MadClown (n=madclown@216.90.251.22) |
| 23:35.36 | nvz | guk: old news, go talk about it in ##bookmark |
| 23:36.20 | streuner | blazefx: did you follow the steps which are mentioned here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/InstallDebian |
| 23:36.20 | *** join/#debian ne0futur (n=neofutur@pdpc/supporter/student/ne0futur) |
| 23:36.43 | *** join/#debian ne0futur (n=neofutur@pdpc/supporter/student/ne0futur) |
| 23:36.45 | SPF | I don't think so, you can always using the bootCD to boot your system, somehow |
| 23:36.51 | *** join/#debian akira (n=adam@70-34-55-158.lmdaca.adelphia.net) |
| 23:36.59 | FliesLikeALap | while working at a computer helpdesk, the only thing better than entertaining thoughts of hanging up on a frustrating caller is having them hang up on themself is having them reset their cable modem while using VoIP |
| 23:37.11 | *** join/#debian ronin_id (n=ronin@202.155.121.29) |
| 23:37.18 | *** join/#debian jae_ (n=jae@p54A3080B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:37.44 | weasel00 | hehe |
| 23:38.01 | SPF | it's just that the bios cannot detect the hdd, so I need to install the bootloader on floppy |
| 23:38.28 | *** join/#debian jbrimble (n=jbrimble@d220-236-220-147.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 23:38.48 | jbrimble | hey, how can i shutdown my debian machine via ssh? What's the shell command? |
| 23:39.07 | streuner | jbrimble: remote server? |
| 23:39.13 | SPF | reboot |
| 23:39.17 | SPF | or shutdown -h now |
| 23:39.20 | beardy | jbrimble: 'man halt', 'man shutdown' |
| 23:41.03 | freeone3000 | ...People are made soft by a GUI. |
| 23:41.05 | streuner | jbrimble: shutdown -h now, if your BIOS support it and if you are using an official kernel |
| 23:43.23 | numist | lets say I want to remove gnome, and all of the packages that depend on it. what command would I use? |
| 23:43.32 | obscuresoul | the wxvlc package provides an interface like windowz? |
| 23:43.36 | Acid`X | streuner: you said that theres a bug with emu10k1 in 2.6.15? |
| 23:43.37 | numist | apt-get remove only says that it will remove 'gnome' and free up a meg of space :o |
| 23:43.58 | *** join/#debian macsim (n=macsim@88-106-31-163.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 23:44.35 | resiak | because gnome is a metapackage |
| 23:44.37 | resiak | !remove gnome |
| 23:44.37 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 23:45.05 | numist | uhm, I dont have aptitude.. this machine is headless |
| 23:45.32 | numist | so the other stuff will just be orphaned? |
| 23:45.38 | PerfDave | numist: You don't need a monitor to run aptitude. It's a command line application. You also don't need a monitor to run X applications, but that's another matter entirely. |
| 23:45.51 | numist | PerfDave: I dont have any x clients around here either |
| 23:45.58 | numist | PerfDave: next time I'll be clearer on that |
| 23:46.07 | PerfDave | numist: You still don't need it to run aptitude. |
| 23:46.07 | beardy | aptitude doesn't need X, get it? |
| 23:47.17 | weasel00 | vsftp is more secure than proftp, correct? |
| 23:47.26 | numist | !tell numist about remove gnome |
| 23:47.34 | numist | weasel00: yes |
| 23:47.52 | beardy | !selftell |
| 23:47.52 | dpkg | Please do not use the bot's !tell feature on #debian to see factoids for yourself (!tell me about something). Doing so could be considered spam. Instead, send a private message to the bot (dpkg) containing the factoid you want to read. For example, instead of "!tell me about foo", use "/msg dpkg foo". |
| 23:47.58 | weasel00 | numist : thanks, wsa having a senior moment |
| 23:48.57 | civilian | why can i run any aplicattion as root using gksu |
| 23:49.10 | civilian | and not asking for password? |
| 23:49.20 | *** join/#debian Bombo_ (i=bombo@p5083676E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:49.23 | deadcat | civilian: it asked you once right? |
| 23:49.32 | civilian | not once :x |
| 23:49.47 | deadcat | wow |
| 23:49.48 | nvz | gksu should always ask its not a frontend to sudo that I know of |
| 23:50.26 | civilian | heh |
| 23:50.44 | Acid`X | deadcat: howdy |
| 23:50.48 | deadcat | what up |
| 23:50.49 | civilian | apt-get remove gksu |
| 23:50.51 | civilian | (: |
| 23:51.09 | nvz | gnome-sudo _is_ a frontend to sudo |
| 23:51.21 | nvz | you should make sure you are not running X as root |
| 23:51.40 | Acid`X | deadcat: haha, got almost everything working, but kinda stuck with thunar/icons and devilspie x( |
| 23:51.44 | SimonRaven | @ops please ban gut for the linksys hardware router exploit attempts |
| 23:51.47 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, azeem, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: please ban gut for the linksys hardware router exploit attempts |
| 23:51.48 | SPF | how to boot a hdd not detectable by the bios? |
| 23:51.59 | *** join/#debian dorileo (n=dorileo@200.175.149.230.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 23:52.20 | SimonRaven | @ops addendum to previous: gut (n=killme@24-247-133-125.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 23:52.21 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, azeem, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: addendum to previous: gut (n=killme@24-247-133-125.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 23:52.21 | ke6isf | SPF: Boot from other media. |
| 23:52.32 | gravity | He got k-lined |
| 23:52.37 | SimonRaven | oh ok |
| 23:52.40 | SimonRaven | sorry :) |
| 23:52.42 | gravity | :-) |
| 23:52.44 | gravity | No problem |
| 23:52.53 | *** join/#debian tomas_ (i=255@c83-253-96-246.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 23:53.03 | *** join/#debian JohnDoh (n=jeff@unaffiliated/JohnDoh) |
| 23:53.08 | SPF | ke6isf: I tried from bootCD: linux root=/dev/hda1 didn't work |
| 23:53.33 | ke6isf | SPF: A boot floppy comes to mind. As in one tht has the kernel and all that on it. |
| 23:54.04 | SPF | I tried making a boot floppy during the install, but that didn't work as well |
| 23:54.12 | Acid`X | deadcat: any idea on how to install the icons for thunar? |
| 23:54.19 | *** join/#debian mfrisch (n=mfrisch@cpe-65-27-189-226.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 23:54.42 | deadcat | Acid`X: ~/.icons |
| 23:54.48 | ke6isf | SPF: Hate to say it then, but I'm at a loss. What kind of drive is it? |
| 23:55.01 | SPF | 40Gb maxtor |
| 23:55.10 | SPF | bios only supports till 32Gb |
| 23:55.18 | macsim | hi, I've got a sagem ethernet modem, work well in belgium, but now I'm in england with tiscali, and pppoeconf dosen't found it, any idea ? |
| 23:55.20 | deadcat | Acid`X: then put gtk-icon-theme-name = "icon.theme.name" <-- in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
| 23:55.22 | ke6isf | SPF: ...just how old is this computer? |
| 23:55.27 | PerfDave | SPF: There should be a jumper for the disk to have it recognised by the BIOS. |
| 23:55.34 | mfrisch | SPF is there a upgrade bios? |
| 23:55.36 | *** join/#debian wendell3_ (n=wendell@24-136-27-31.alc-bsr1.chi-alc.il.cable.rcn.com) |
| 23:55.43 | SPF | bios is at newest version |
| 23:55.44 | deadcat | Acid`X: thats how i do it. if you use gnome, just click in the theme section i think and click add |
| 23:55.51 | SPF | the comp is prolly about 10 years old |
| 23:56.11 | ke6isf | SPF: ... |
| 23:56.16 | SPF | first, linux ran on a 4Gb disc |
| 23:56.18 | Acid`X | deadcat: let me try it :] |
| 23:56.21 | ke6isf | SPF: Get a smaller disk, install the OS on that. |
| 23:56.33 | *** join/#debian lazzarello (n=studio@cpe-66-65-68-6.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:56.38 | SPF | yea well, that 4Gb broke |
| 23:56.40 | ke6isf | SPF: Keep the OS on that, bootstrap from that. The operating system will pick it up during the boot process. |
| 23:56.45 | ke6isf | SPF: OK, get another one. |
| 23:56.47 | SimonRaven | apt-get install bios |
| 23:56.50 | SimonRaven | :P |
| 23:57.04 | SPF | they wont sell any small hdd's in the shop here |
| 23:57.15 | *** part/#debian dave-az (i=dsanders@ip70-162-129-35.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 23:57.18 | nvz | SPF: can the bios see any of the 40gb? |
| 23:57.23 | mfrisch | SPF ebay |
| 23:57.25 | *** join/#debian juice` (i=juice@nevada.tpi.pl) |
| 23:57.28 | SPF | no, not a thing |
| 23:57.31 | SimonRaven | apt-get --purge remove bios; apt-get install openfirmware-x86 |
| 23:57.32 | ke6isf | SPF: Look at other sources. ebay, swap meets, that sort of thing. They're not impossible to find. |
| 23:57.40 | ke6isf | SPF: harder and harder, granted, but not impossible. |
| 23:57.52 | mfrisch | SPF: I got one but I use it |
| 23:57.53 | lazzarello | random X question: I'm using an apple one button mouse. How do I define the right and middle buttons? |
| 23:57.53 | SPF | hmm, I prefer a boot floppy though |
| 23:58.10 | nvz | or look at nvz's house cause its like a pc graveyard |
| 23:58.17 | ke6isf | SPF: OK, so go and make one. But you mentioned that it doesn't work - what are the symptoms? |
| 23:58.18 | nvz | bootfloppy works |
| 23:58.33 | SPF | can't I just manually boot and put grub on bootflop? |
| 23:58.34 | SimonRaven | lazzarello: /msg ravenbird tell me about 3 buttons |
| 23:58.41 | PerfDave | SPF: There should be a jumper for the disk to have it recognised by the BIOS. |
| 23:59.08 | SPF | it only has slave/master/cable select |
| 23:59.17 | PerfDave | SPF: It causes the disk to misreport its size to the BIOS, which gets the BIOS to execute the bootloader, and grub doesn't pay attention to the BIOS' idea of the size. |
| 23:59.17 | nvz | yeah some drives can set limits to fool the bios |
| 23:59.25 | PerfDave | SPF: Read the disk manual :) |
| 23:59.26 | lazzarello | SimonRaven: would that matter if the mouse is on an i386 box? |
| 23:59.27 | weasel00 | 10 years ago 800 megs was the shiznit :) |
| 23:59.36 | *** join/#debian Fische (n=Fische@25.173.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 23:59.38 | Fische | Can anyone tell me the difference between /usr/bin/ps and /usr/ucb/ps? |
| 23:59.44 | nvz | weasel00: shit. |
| 23:59.58 | ke6isf | weasel: I remember those days. I thought it was cool upgrading from 70GB to 110. |
