| 00:00.04 | SimonRaven | lazzarello: yes. and WTF would you have an ADB one button mouse on an x86? |
| 00:00.05 | ke6isf | oops... s/GB/MB |
| 00:00.30 | nvz | weasel00: I remember the first 286 desktop we got.. we had like 10mb or something and were sitting there wondering how we'd ever fill that up |
| 00:00.31 | lazzarello | SimonRaven: it's the only mouse in the room right now. |
| 00:00.34 | SPF | I know about the limit, but I doubt it'll ever be recognized by the bios |
| 00:00.41 | lazzarello | SimonRaven: it's a USB mouse. |
| 00:00.47 | ke6isf | nvz: Then again, back then, apps weren't so feature encrusted. |
| 00:00.49 | SimonRaven | lazzarello: a) it won't work b) you'll fry the machine |
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| 00:01.01 | lazzarello | SimonRaven: USB ^^ |
| 00:01.06 | lazzarello | it already works |
| 00:01.09 | SimonRaven | lazzarello: oh, nm about the ADB. but it still won't work |
| 00:01.16 | nvz | ke6isf: no but everyone shared code and you needed a different piece to do everything.. menus, mouse support..etc |
| 00:01.17 | lazzarello | it's working, I just can't paste |
| 00:01.27 | ke6isf | nvz: Granted. |
| 00:01.32 | lazzarello | 1/2 working |
| 00:01.33 | weasel00 | nvz : not being intimate with your board.. you might wnat to look at ide expansion cards and using one if the box is that speacial to ya ;) |
| 00:01.33 | SimonRaven | the x86 jkernels don't have the right support |
| 00:01.35 | quadrata | xapaho, congrats |
| 00:01.38 | SimonRaven | s/j// |
| 00:01.42 | SPF | but if I think about it the other way, if I do make a floppy and that boots, can't I just boot from CD as well? |
| 00:01.55 | lazzarello | crap. thanks for the info. |
| 00:02.02 | SimonRaven | np |
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| 00:02.08 | nvz | weasel00: ide.. heh wtf is that? |
| 00:02.22 | lazzarello | oh...wouldl you know of a terminal that's not gnome/kde terminal that has a copy/paste menu? |
| 00:02.27 | nvz | weasel00: they had some weird shit back before ide.. like those big ass mfm drives and shit |
| 00:02.31 | lazzarello | mrxvt doesn't have one. |
| 00:02.44 | SimonRaven | you could try doing sh+ins |
| 00:02.54 | lazzarello | oooh. tricky. |
| 00:03.00 | SimonRaven | that's shift plus insert key |
| 00:03.31 | ke6isf | lazzarello: use aterm, highlight the text, and use your middle mouse button to paste. |
| 00:03.32 | weasel00 | nvz : i think i have an ISA controller in my closet still ;) |
| 00:03.56 | xapaho | quadrata: cheers, multiboot is fine and as I wanted it -- after having used fedora and ubuntu, using debian seems to me like driving a ferrari ;) |
| 00:04.01 | lazzarello | ke6isf: you missed the first part. I don't have a middle button. apple USB mouse on i386 |
| 00:04.13 | quadrata | heh |
| 00:04.15 | ke6isf | lazzarello: =O.o= it works? |
| 00:04.22 | lazzarello | SimonRaven: it seems firefox doesn't like X key commands like that. |
| 00:04.29 | ke6isf | xapaho: Welcome to the Real Linux. =^_^= |
| 00:04.39 | SimonRaven | well FF is crap for that |
| 00:04.53 | lazzarello | ke6isf: the pointer moves and the single button works...but no middle/right. |
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| 00:04.59 | nvz | weasel00: I used to have all kinds of stuff and I kept it because I was going to do stuff but I never did. |
| 00:05.02 | SimonRaven | it's just that much away from a real *nix app to suck |
| 00:05.03 | lazzarello | I think I lose. |
| 00:05.37 | xapaho | quadrata: I still don't get why I need to re-extract the first 512o from my boot part, every time I install a grub from a distinct distro -- in order to feed ntldr with a working boot file (?!?) |
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| 00:06.05 | nvz | weasel00: I had a stack of what at the time was like a $15 sound card.. ALS 100 and 100+ models.. very ineffecient paperweight class cards. I was going to use them to practice attaching prototype hardware to. |
| 00:06.12 | xapaho | ke6isf: yes, that is really my feeling, finally, a distro where everything looks to work as expected heh |
| 00:06.22 | Acid`X | deadcat: the name of the theme is the name of the folder-pack inside .icons? |
| 00:06.38 | quadrata | xapaho, because ntldr sucks? |
| 00:06.56 | SimonRaven | xapaho: one of the points to debian is to get you to do real work, and not have to micro-manage the OS |
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| 00:07.07 | nvz | weasel00: I was going to find some kind of antennas that would attach and remove from the card externally and make an internal FM transmitter on a sound card as one of the channels.. and maybe even a reciever channel |
| 00:07.08 | Acid`X | deadcat: yah, got it working now, thx :D |
| 00:07.15 | lazzarello | SimonRaven: but it'll let you micro manage if you like. |
| 00:07.22 | SimonRaven | oh sure :) |
| 00:08.09 | prp | hello, i have a router that's running debian... and i want to provide internet access to user based on a user/password... what is the simplest implementation.. i am looking at IPsec but i see downsides on the windows part.. (clients ar mostly windows) i was thinking of an aplication that will auth the user.. any ideeas ? |
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| 00:08.24 | lazzarello | I'm working with old school UNIX dudes now who think Debian makes too many assumptions. |
| 00:08.40 | gravity | heh |
| 00:08.43 | lazzarello | but then I bring a web server online in 30 minutes and they are like...okay, fine. |
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| 00:08.58 | xapaho | quadrata: do u reckon that's really ntldr fault ? :) I'm looking for some reading about what's exactly happening in those first 512o, anyone would have a link for me ? |
| 00:08.59 | gravity | nice |
| 00:09.01 | SimonRaven | instead of 2 hours? :) |
| 00:09.20 | weasel00 | nvz : you could try to install off floppies but i have never tried to get around the hd limit issue that way *shrug |
| 00:09.28 | lazzarello | the old boxen are all RH with compiled apps. |
| 00:09.31 | SimonRaven | xapaho: let grub do the booting. |
| 00:09.37 | SimonRaven | eew, rh |
| 00:09.41 | lazzarello | totally |
| 00:09.43 | quadrata | xapaho, I think it is because I never have a problem like that going the other way, ie, using grub as the bootloader |
| 00:09.49 | quadrata | xapaho, google for the answer though |
| 00:09.54 | tobehz | Everytime I renew my IP, it gives me this SIOCADDRT: Network is down error, and I can only ping once after renewing, and then the internet ceases to work until I reboot or renew my IP and fiddle with shit. I can, however, talk with the workstations on my LAN. |
| 00:10.10 | nvz | weasel00: its not a matter of installing from floppies, its just using a floppy with a bootloader to boot the system |
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| 00:11.00 | nvz | weasel00: the bios which in that kind of system boots the system cannot see the hd. if he can get it to fool the bios or even recognise it as a 2gb hd or anything then it can be booted |
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| 00:11.23 | nvz | linux will detect the controller and make everything right once the kernel is loaded |
| 00:11.27 | lazzarello | ha! elinks to the rescue...copy paste! |
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| 00:11.39 | xapaho | quadrata: yeah, my google is exhausted already :) did heavy search, maybe I'm loosing search efficiency! |
| 00:11.46 | SPF | PerfDave: I just found out my 40 hdd doesnt have a CLJ, so it's not detectable by the bios |
| 00:12.09 | xapaho | SimonRaven: I have several reasons to boot the way I do, pls don't worry, txs for the advice anyway :) |
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| 00:12.49 | SimonRaven | xapaho: np, just thought it'd be easier to let grub handle it. |
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| 00:14.54 | obscuresoul | does anyone knows the wxvlc package? |
| 00:15.27 | nvz | I have to walk my ass to the store regaurtless |
| 00:15.43 | mfrisch | nvz: get me a duece |
| 00:15.49 | Acid`X | deadcat: and for gnome themes? |
| 00:15.54 | nvz | I tried like hell to get out of that todaty |
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| 00:16.08 | nvz | mfrisch: yeah right. you cant buy a duece here |
| 00:16.11 | xapaho | SimonRaven: when all grubs from distinct distros will stop to ignore each others's kernels, I'll trust grub for good ! for now that way allows me to always boot from HD, whatever happen, and even if I need to widly install another m$ os (dev and test server) |
| 00:16.23 | nvz | mfrisch: maybe at the bar |
| 00:16.44 | numist | holy hell, purging gnome decided to purge every single package I had |
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| 00:16.56 | numist | stopped it after it removed mysql and less >_< |
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| 00:17.09 | freeone3000 | ...removing LESS? |
| 00:17.10 | threat | hi |
| 00:17.11 | freeone3000 | Wtf? |
| 00:17.18 | numist | freeone3000: YEAH no kidding |
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| 00:17.32 | threat | what is with the pnet (C#) package? I get this error ---> |
| 00:17.33 | threat | cscc: relocation error: cscc: symbol __libc_stack_end, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference |
| 00:17.36 | gokee2_ | !laptop |
| 00:17.36 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org , and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 00:17.38 | numist | freeone3000: it got wondershaper, firehol, iproute, and dhcpd too :/ |
| 00:17.58 | freeone3000 | dhcpd? |
| 00:17.59 | SimonRaven | xapaho: i see |
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| 00:18.07 | freeone3000 | That sounds important, like it was the base of internet connecitons. |
| 00:18.21 | lazzarello | is the nvidiafb module in sarge or should I go for the proprietary driver? |
| 00:18.25 | numist | freeone3000: no, its for my router... |
| 00:18.35 | numist | freeone3000: I could live without it by telling my machines to take specific IPs |
| 00:18.37 | tobehz | gnome shouldnt install be default |
| 00:18.42 | tobehz | by* |
| 00:18.42 | threat | lazzarello, propreitary drive is great |
| 00:18.50 | tobehz | why did you select desktop environment for a router? |
| 00:18.55 | tobehz | O_o |
| 00:19.00 | numist | tobehz: it wasnt always a router, silly |
| 00:19.01 | nvz | !nvidia one-liner |
| 00:19.01 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is, like, update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 00:19.07 | freeone3000 | ... |
| 00:19.07 | tobehz | well reinstall debian then |
| 00:19.07 | tomas_ | does anyone know wget syntax to send a http-request? just GET / with the common headers and then not download the requested file |
| 00:19.10 | lazzarello | threat: looks that way. they appear to actually maintain it, unlike ATI. |
| 00:19.10 | tobehz | probably easier |
| 00:19.11 | numist | it started being a router about a year ago |
| 00:19.17 | freeone3000 | If you understand it, FEAR. |
| 00:19.20 | numist | meh, I have to move some sites off it first |
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| 00:19.50 | tobehz | if you can, make a seperate ext3 partition, put sites on it |
| 00:19.53 | rav | hello. anyone working on a laptop with a synaptics touchpad? |
| 00:19.56 | tobehz | then format the rest, and reinstall |
| 00:19.56 | tobehz | easy |
| 00:20.08 | numist | tobehz: or I could stop being lazy and move them to my dedicated server.. but I'm lazy |
| 00:20.16 | lazzarello | !tell rav about synaptics |
| 00:20.24 | nvz | rav: would it make you feel better if I were? |
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| 00:20.36 | lazzarello | !tell rav about polls |
| 00:20.52 | nvz | tell lazzarello about badgers :P |
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| 00:21.20 | tobehz | doesnt anyone know why im getting this SIOCADDRT msg? :< |
| 00:21.23 | lazzarello | ahhhh! badgers! |
| 00:21.58 | nvz | cafuego: dont mind that boy, he's a little crazy. |
| 00:22.21 | nvz | quadrata: mfrisch would like one |
| 00:22.38 | quadrata | hrm. |
| 00:22.40 | cafuego | nvz: It's okay, badgets are _so_ last year. |
| 00:22.55 | quadrata | badgets? |
| 00:22.58 | nvz | I've always hated bagets |
| 00:23.07 | quadrata | baggettes? |
| 00:23.07 | nvz | oh wait |
| 00:23.15 | weasel00 | ba* ?! we dont need no ba*! |
| 00:23.17 | nkuttler_ | IOCADDRT: Network is down yet I can talk to computers on m |
| 00:23.17 | nvz | you know little bagels |
| 00:23.38 | nvz | I eat bagel bites sometimes but thats cause I've been lazy |
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| 00:23.42 | quadrata | I don't know any little bagels |
| 00:23.44 | quadrata | I swear |
| 00:23.46 | xapaho | I have a question: installing a new kernel, packages don't care about other existing kernels on boot. That risks conflicts between kernel names (eg. debian and ubuntu). are the system.map and config files, loaded by the kernel in it's current directory ? iow, can I safely move each set of 4 files into distinct /boot/debian | ubuntu | fedora sub folders ? |
| 00:23.51 | nvz | now I am going to stop being lazy and cook and eat better and save money |
| 00:24.14 | weasel00 | tobehz : wan ip conflict |
| 00:24.16 | PerfDave | xapaho: You're mixing repositories between Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora? |
| 00:24.30 | tobehz | weasel00: how would my wan ip conflict with my lan ip |
| 00:24.33 | nvz | I would cook if I lived with other people who ate good food.. then I wouldnt have to be doing all the work for just one person |
| 00:24.37 | xapaho | PerfDave: just a multiboot test/dev system |
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| 00:24.49 | tobehz | 68.9.229.234 and 192.168.0.12 are completely different ;o |
| 00:24.55 | xapaho | PerfDave: one part for each distro, common /boot part for all |
| 00:25.15 | lazzarello | I didn't know m-a will download the module source automatically. that's pretty cool. |
| 00:25.23 | weasel00 | tobehz : thought your lan was ok but pinging outside would drop after 5 secs? |
| 00:25.33 | tobehz | i can talk to my lan comps |
| 00:25.38 | tobehz | and my other lan comps can access the internet |
| 00:25.48 | tobehz | but i cant access the internet on this debian box |
| 00:25.52 | tobehz | i can only ping once |
| 00:25.59 | PerfDave | tobehz: Have you set a gateway / route? |
| 00:26.00 | tobehz | and then the box is "spent" until i cycle it |
| 00:26.08 | PerfDave | xapaho: I know someone who did the same with an "include" type statement in the grub.confs |
| 00:26.10 | tobehz | i've tried to set a gateway, but it fails |
| 00:26.25 | tobehz | i get some no such device message from route |
| 00:26.34 | lazzarello | tobehz: dhcp? |
| 00:26.37 | tobehz | yes |
| 00:26.46 | lazzarello | is it giving you an IP? |
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| 00:26.51 | tobehz | yes, 192.168.0.12 |
| 00:26.55 | |RABBIT|_ | greetings |
| 00:27.01 | lazzarello | what's netstat -rn output? |
| 00:27.42 | tobehz | just one route, which is dest of my lan, gateway is set to 0.0.0.0, on the lan interface |
| 00:27.53 | tobehz | which i guess is my problem (no route to the outside) |
| 00:27.57 | tobehz | but it's not letting me set one ;x |
| 00:28.15 | lazzarello | tobehz: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 00:28.23 | tobehz | done it about 500 times |
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| 00:28.25 | tobehz | to no avail |
| 00:28.45 | lazzarello | sounds like your dhcp server isn't configured properly, or you have two dhcp servers on your lan. |
| 00:28.46 | tobehz | although ill humor you and do it again |
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| 00:29.18 | lazzarello | tobehz: have you tried static configuration? |
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| 00:29.39 | tobehz | not yet |
| 00:30.15 | lazzarello | tobehz: try that if you know how. shoot for an 4th octet that's outside the dhcp range just to be safe. |
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| 00:30.50 | gokee2_ | the debian kernel I have seemes to have all power manegment stuff turned off. Is there a way to fix this without getting a whole new kernel? And if I do need a new kernel is their a prebuilt one? |
| 00:31.01 | threat | lazzarello, ATI is gay |
| 00:31.12 | kenrick | i got a problem with usb devices any idea how to make a usb work after you close down the laptops screen and bring it back up |
| 00:31.19 | PerfDave | threat: You're just saying that because it tried to touch you in your special place. |
| 00:31.24 | azeem | threat: uh? |
| 00:31.28 | PerfDave | kenrick: "USB work"? In what way does it stop working? |
| 00:31.38 | xapaho | PerfDave: I searched grub man for 'include' (??) do you mean the configfile command ? |
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| 00:31.43 | PerfDave | gokee2_: Is it loading APM / ACPI stuff automatically? If not, does loading it manually work? |
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| 00:31.58 | PerfDave | xapaho: I can't remember what the statement is, and the Grub documentation is appalling :) |
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| 00:32.06 | threat | PerfDave, ;( |
| 00:32.12 | threat | AIT NO!!! |
| 00:32.16 | threat | AIT = ATI |
| 00:32.19 | lazzarello | threat: don't give them so much credit |
| 00:32.42 | threat | ATI touched me in the no no place |
| 00:32.56 | kenrick | perfDave: initialially when i load up debian the os detects the usb mouse but when i left the house i leave my laptop on with the mon close down |
| 00:33.03 | threat | ok I amover it |
| 00:33.11 | lazzarello | brb. rebooting X after nvidia one-liner...crossing fingers. |
| 00:33.19 | kenrick | perfDave: after i come back i open the mon and the mouse is dead |
| 00:33.47 | PerfDave | kenrick: Does unplugging and replugging the mouse help? Is there anything in your logfiles? |
| 00:33.48 | kenrick | perfDave: so is other usb devices thats attached to debian |
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| 00:34.08 | kenrick | perfDave: nope replugging doesn't help |
| 00:35.02 | PerfDave | kenrick: Anything in the logfiles? |
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| 00:35.32 | kenrick | perfDave: how do i check my log files? |
| 00:35.38 | tobehz | bleh |
| 00:35.42 | tobehz | now i get some other gay error |
| 00:35.55 | PerfDave | kenrick: They're in /var/log |
| 00:36.00 | gravity | !gay |
| 00:36.00 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 00:36.02 | weasel00 | tobehz : whic is? |
| 00:36.10 | tobehz | network is unreachable |
| 00:36.12 | tobehz | :D |
| 00:36.30 | kenrick | perfDave: which log file do i read? theres like more than 9 |
| 00:36.51 | PerfDave | kenrick: /var/log/messages is probably the one you want, it's the main logfile. |
| 00:37.25 | tobehz | this is getting pretty sad :/ |
| 00:37.39 | tobehz | not to mention annoying |
| 00:37.47 | OfficeChair | I need to convert an OpenOffice Open Document (.odt) format to .doc (Microsoft Word) or .sxw (default OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 text document format.) |
| 00:37.50 | tobehz | it worked when i installed debian, and then stopped working :x |
| 00:38.00 | freeone3000 | Open up openoffice, resave as .doc |
| 00:38.05 | freeone3000 | Done. |
| 00:38.41 | OfficeChair | But I can't open the OpenDocument formatted document because I have Sarge, which has OpenOffice 1.1.3, which won't open .odt (OpenOffice). |
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| 00:38.47 | kenrick | perfDave: local host kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt status 3 #frame #some number |
| 00:39.02 | OfficeChair | Also, I have very little time to accomplish this task. |
| 00:39.03 | gokee2_ | PerfDave, I don`t know how to load it manuly, I ran into the problem while loading cpufreqd it said "unable to find CpuFreq interface in your kernel" also in the control panel it says I need something in my kernel for the battery display to work |
| 00:39.05 | weasel00 | tobehz : would it be possible to write down the settings on computer X, shutdown computer X, enter static info from X to debian, just to test? |
| 00:39.17 | freeone3000 | OfficeChair: So go to testing |
| 00:39.28 | tobehz | i've tried different IPs |
| 00:39.29 | IOscanner | I am trying to build a pkg and push it via apt-get. I get an error: trying to overwrite `/.deb', which is also in package natdet |
| 00:39.31 | PerfDave | OfficeChair: Are there not OO2 packages for Sarge on backports.org or something? |
| 00:39.31 | freeone3000 | OfficeChair: (Stupid reason to go to testing, most likely. But it'll give you everything you need) |
| 00:39.37 | tobehz | including the ip of one of my working win2k boxes |
| 00:39.39 | IOscanner | natdet is another package I build |
| 00:39.42 | tobehz | it doesnt work |
| 00:39.44 | IOscanner | How can I fix this |
| 00:39.46 | tobehz | it's ridiculous |
| 00:39.55 | tobehz | my windows boxes assign the gateway just fine |
| 00:40.04 | tobehz | yet debian is sucking and doesnt, yet wont let me add it |
| 00:40.08 | PerfDave | IOscanner: Looks like both packages include a file called "/.deb", I suspect that neither of them should. |
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| 00:40.25 | tobehz | linux is sucking, rather. |
| 00:40.33 | PerfDave | tobehz: I suspect that the reason why Debian won't assign it automatically is the same reason why it won't let you assign it manually. |
| 00:40.34 | IOscanner | how do I fix it |
| 00:40.38 | OfficeChair | I don't care if I end up with an unstable system, it doesn't matter. I am about to reload another OS on this laptop, as I am selling it (I have my new ibook with Sarge PPC) |
| 00:40.45 | PerfDave | IOscanner: Don't include that file in the packages? |
| 00:40.53 | azeem | tobehz: different IPs for what? |
| 00:41.01 | OfficeChair | So, just change /etc/sources.apt to use testing instead of stable? |
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| 00:41.23 | PerfDave | OfficeChair: /msg dpkg stable->testing |
| 00:41.24 | tobehz | azeem: debian doesnt want to let me add the route to my gateway so my box can access the inetner |
| 00:41.27 | tobehz | internet* |
| 00:41.32 | tobehz | nor will it add it itself |
| 00:41.37 | IOscanner | how do I do that. I am using dpkg-deb with a single control file. |
| 00:41.42 | PerfDave | tobehz: Have you said what card you're using, and what kernel? |
| 00:41.42 | tobehz | PerfDave: and that reason would be? |
| 00:41.43 | azeem | tobehz: are you using static networking? |
| 00:41.50 | azeem | tobehz: what is your DHCP like? |
| 00:41.52 | livingtm | Anyone know how to add the samba config module to the KDE control center? |
| 00:41.55 | IOscanner | then in the root dir the path and files that are to be installed |
| 00:41.56 | azeem | eh, DHCP server |
| 00:42.00 | tobehz | azeem: at the moment, I'm *trying* to use a static address, DHCP was a failure |
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| 00:42.13 | PerfDave | tobehz: Do your windows boxes use DHCP? |
| 00:42.14 | IOscanner | is there an exclude /? options |
| 00:42.22 | kenrick | perfDave: local host kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt status 3 #frame #some number |
| 00:42.24 | PerfDave | IOscanner: No idea, ask a Debian developer. |
| 00:42.28 | tobehz | PerfDave: does it matter that much? it worked during the netinst, and i havent changed the kernel, and now it doesnt work ;x |
| 00:42.32 | tobehz | PerfDave: yes they all do |
| 00:42.37 | PerfDave | tobehz: Yes, it matters that much. |
| 00:42.44 | PerfDave | tobehz: Otherwise I wouldn't have asked. |
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| 00:43.18 | PerfDave | kenrick: OK, I'm not sure what that message means. Does the timestamp on it correspond to your putting your laptop on standby? |
| 00:43.21 | tobehz | ummm, it's a silicon integrated systems sis900 on-board thingy |
| 00:43.29 | tobehz | and it's the latest debian netinst |
| 00:43.31 | PerfDave | gokee2_: "modprobe acpi" might help. |
| 00:43.47 | atoponce | is debian a good distro for beowulf clutsers? how about ubuntu? |
| 00:43.49 | PerfDave | tobehz: The latest stable netinst, or the latest testing netinst? What kernel are you using with it? |
| 00:43.55 | azeem | tobehz: so does static networking work? |
| 00:43.59 | tobehz | 2.4.27, stable |
| 00:44.08 | tobehz | azeem: like I've infered before, no |
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| 00:44.22 | PerfDave | atoponce: I believe there's a Debian port for Beowulf clusters. |
| 00:44.22 | kenrick | perfDave: nah theres like 10 lines of that mesage with the time differnet of like 3 sec |
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| 00:44.28 | azeem | tobehz: are you unable to set it up, or is the gateway not responding? |
| 00:44.37 | tobehz | it just doesnt fucking work |
| 00:44.40 | PerfDave | kenrick: OK, is that before you put the laptop on standby, or after? Is it still adding it? |
| 00:44.46 | wireddd | is there something like avimerge for mpg files? |
| 00:44.46 | atoponce | PerfDave, thx. would it be on the debian site? |
| 00:44.50 | azeem | tobehz: eh, what are you doing exactly? |
| 00:44.50 | gokee2_ | PerfDave, Ah cool thanks |
| 00:44.54 | tobehz | there is no usueful erro message to even deduce what isn't working |
| 00:44.58 | kenrick | perfDave: its the time i unplug and replug the usb mouse |
| 00:45.07 | azeem | tobehz: maybe you should paste your /etc/network/interfaces files to a pastebin |
| 00:45.07 | tobehz | azeem: um, i'm trying to ping google.com |
| 00:45.09 | azeem | !paster |
| 00:45.09 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 00:45.20 | azeem | tobehz: doing in terms of setting it up, I mean |
| 00:45.26 | weasel00 | azeem : tobehz cant get a gateway route to stick |
| 00:45.35 | azeem | tobehz: can you ping the gateway, or the other windos boxen? Can they ping you? |
| 00:45.39 | |RABBIT|_ | in the AMD64 port there is a circular conflict between 3 library packages |
| 00:45.44 | |RABBIT|_ | how can I get them installed? |
| 00:45.45 | tobehz | i can ping everything on my lan |
| 00:45.50 | tobehz | i cant ping anything on the outside |
| 00:45.52 | PerfDave | |RABBIT|_: #debian-amd64 will probably be able to help you better |
| 00:45.58 | azeem | tobehz: aha |
| 00:45.59 | tobehz | and my other windows workstations can ping stuff on the outside and inside |
| 00:46.06 | tobehz | my gateway IS set |
| 00:46.08 | azeem | tobehz: can they ping your Debian box? |
| 00:46.12 | tobehz | yes |
| 00:46.19 | |RABBIT|_ | PerfDave: thanks |
| 00:46.20 | azeem | tobehz: does anything else word, like HTTP? |
| 00:46.23 | tobehz | no |
| 00:46.26 | tobehz | nothing works |
| 00:46.28 | PerfDave | kenrick: So you boot the laptop as usual, and everythign works, and there's nothing in the log. Then you put it on standby and wake it up, and the USB doesn't work, and there's still nothing in the logs. And then you replug the mouse, and it still doesn't work, and you get stuff in the logs. Is that correct? |
| 00:46.30 | moop32 | hey folks, trying to install apache 1.3 on debian , im getting an error that saz /usr/bin/ld:: No such file or directory ; collect2: ld returned 1 exit status , anyone knows what am i doing wrong? |
| 00:46.40 | PerfDave | atoponce: http://www.debian.org/ports/beowulf/ |
| 00:46.57 | freeone3000 | moop32: Install ld |
| 00:46.58 | azeem | tobehz: does `ping 66.249.93.104' work? |
| 00:47.05 | kenrick | perfDave: pretty much what you said |
| 00:47.21 | tobehz | connect: Network is unreachable |
| 00:47.24 | kenrick | perfDave: if it was SuSE or Fedora it would auto detect it |
| 00:47.25 | atoponce | PerfDave, thx. just found it too. :) |
| 00:47.30 | tobehz | so that is a no. |
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| 00:47.38 | azeem | tobehz: does is output anything else? |
| 00:47.39 | PerfDave | kenrick: Have you looked on the two main Linux laptop sites to see whether anybody has else experienced this? |
| 00:47.46 | tobehz | nothing else |
| 00:47.56 | PerfDave | kenrick: Also, which kernel are you using? Sounds like it could be a buggy ACPI implementation. |
| 00:48.03 | kenrick | perfDave: theres so many linux site there i dunno which two is main lol |
| 00:48.10 | PerfDave | !laptop |
| 00:48.10 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org , and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 00:48.11 | tobehz | http://pastebin.com/586097 is my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:48.20 | karsten | Any thoughts on why mouse wouldn't be working in X on a Thinkpad T21? /dev/psaux mouse, no response to 'cat /dev/psaux' and twiddling with the stick or buttons. |
| 00:48.22 | azeem | tobehz: also paste the output of route |
| 00:48.27 | kenrick | perfDave: The newest debian 3.1 |
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| 00:48.48 | tobehz | http://pastebin.com/586099 |
| 00:48.50 | PerfDave | kenrick: That's what distribution you're using. What kernel are you using? |
| 00:48.56 | kenrick | perfDave: kern 2.4 |
| 00:49.18 | PerfDave | kenrick: OK, you might want to give a 2.6 kernel a go, they tend to have better ACPI implementations. |
| 00:49.32 | azeem | tobehz: ok, so no gateway is set |
| 00:49.47 | kenrick | perfDave: how would i go about upgrading to 2.6 |
| 00:49.58 | tobehz | ive said this already, yes |
| 00:50.00 | PerfDave | kenrick: What CPU have you got in your laptop? |
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| 00:50.20 | kenrick | perfDave: Centrino 1.6 <-- bloody intel :D |
| 00:50.40 | azeem | eh |
| 00:50.40 | azeem | 01:39 < tobehz> my gateway IS set |
| 00:50.53 | tobehz | it isnt set as a route |
| 00:51.00 | tobehz | it is set in the interfaces file |
| 00:51.14 | azeem | ok, so that was not clear |
| 00:51.23 | PerfDave | kenrick: OK, you probably just want to install |
| 00:51.30 | PerfDave | kenrick: OK, you probably just want to install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
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| 00:51.40 | azeem | tobehz: try `route add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth0' as root |
| 00:51.51 | kenrick | perfDave: can't i upgrade it through apt-get or something eles? |
| 00:52.03 | tobehz | SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable |
| 00:52.10 | tobehz | fun times :D |
| 00:52.18 | PerfDave | kenrick: Yes, kernel-image-2.6-686 is a Debian package :) |
| 00:52.21 | azeem | tobehz: paste the output of `ifconfig eth0' as well, please |
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| 00:52.40 | tobehz | http://pastebin.com/586107 |
| 00:52.43 | adam_ | How would I speed up printing? It takes 5-10 minutes before an image of about 3 megs begins printing? |
| 00:53.01 | adam_ | is there like DMA.. but for printers that I would need to enable? |
| 00:53.46 | ke6isf | adam_: This is not a bug, but a feature. Your printer has to be able to interpret the data sent to it. What flavor of printer, and what version of Debian? |
| 00:53.58 | azeem | tobehz: but you can ping 192.168.0.1 ? |
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| 00:54.34 | adam_ | ke6isf, how is it a feature? it's an HP PSC, and sarge |
| 00:54.47 | moop32 | freeone3000, i installed ldso, it didnt came with that crt1.o file :/ |
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| 00:55.33 | ke6isf | adam_: Well, maybe not a feature, but more a wart. But still, the computer still has to process it, and the printer still needs to process it. 3 MB of data is a lot to chew on. Have you tried it with a page of text to see what it does? |
| 00:55.33 | tobehz | azeem: yes, along with any other workstation on my lan |
| 00:55.53 | azeem | are you sure the netmask is alright? |
| 00:55.58 | tobehz | yes. |
| 00:56.03 | adam_ | ke6isf, it goes fast with just a page of text.. I was just curious if there was any way to speed it up somehow |
| 00:56.16 | ke6isf | adam_: Not really. |
| 00:56.23 | adam_ | ke6isf, okay, thanks anyway :) |
| 00:56.33 | azeem | tobehz: oh well, I am out of ideas then :-/ |
| 00:56.41 | tobehz | :] |
| 00:56.47 | tobehz | back to windows i guess |
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| 00:57.14 | azeem | tobehz: did you try to run dhclient eth0 by hand? |
| 00:57.18 | tobehz | yes |
| 00:57.29 | tobehz | i did that about 300 - 400 times |
| 00:57.32 | tobehz | literally |
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| 00:58.04 | azeem | and you get an IP fine, but no gateway? |
| 00:58.08 | tobehz | si |
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| 00:59.22 | tobehz | i just get a connect: Network is unreachable from ping |
| 00:59.31 | tobehz | and the SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable when i try to add the gw route |
| 00:59.40 | tobehz | same with a static address and DHCP |
| 00:59.54 | weasel00 | omg reinstalling from winxp to winxp64 was a bad plan lol |
| 01:00.26 | Flaksi | I'm trying to do a net install of Debian, but the cd doesn't have the drivers for the integrated NIC (asus a7n8x-xe). The manufacturer of the chip (realtek) says it's a PHY chip, and does not need drivers, and that I should look for the MAC drivers. Problem is, I can't find any reference to the MAC drivers. |
| 01:00.31 | PerfDave | WinXP64 just seems totally broken. I don't know anybody who's used it for more than a month before putting XP32 back on their systems. |
| 01:00.51 | karsten | PerfDave: It's got very thin deployment from what I understand. |
| 01:01.01 | PerfDave | Flaksi: Do you know what kernel it's supported in? Have you tried using the 2.6 kernel on the Debian install CD? |
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| 01:01.54 | Flaksi | I haven't found any reference to a kernel that supports it. I have tried only the 2.6 kernel, since the 2.4 does hangs up on the cd-rom drivers. |
| 01:02.08 | Flaksi | nice day for spelling mistakes. |
| 01:02.16 | SPF | I'm currently trying to install grub on floppy from install menu, but it gives a fatal error |
| 01:02.32 | SPF | while executing a shell I have no problem accessing the floppy |
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| 01:03.09 | lazzarello | FWIW, the nvidia driver in sarge is broken with a geforce 6200 card. |
| 01:03.29 | lazzarello | should probably update dpkg's note. I don't know if I can do that. |
| 01:04.14 | weasel00 | eww |
| 01:04.23 | PerfDave | lazzarello: You should possibly report it as a bug, unless it's just that the driver is old / nVidia are pissing aout with it. |
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| 01:05.14 | usr13 | I've just done a new install and finally gotten network issue resolved. I need to go back to the install process. What is that command? |
| 01:05.16 | ke6isf | weasel00: ...what? There somethign gross about 'dpkg --configure -a'? |
| 01:05.30 | lazzarello | PerfDave: the latest changelog on their web site (dec 2005) specifically mentions a fix with the 6200 model. |
| 01:05.38 | ke6isf | ...why does she have emacspeak? =O.o= |
| 01:05.48 | weasel00 | ke6isf updates his wife's box... <-- havent slept yet.. my bad |
| 01:05.48 | usr13 | It said I could return to the install process by issuing command _________ ? |
| 01:05.57 | PerfDave | lazzarello: Is it on the BTS? |
| 01:06.05 | lazzarello | PerfDave: checking... |
| 01:06.15 | ke6isf | weasel00: ...go to bed. |
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| 01:06.46 | weasel00 | too many project progressing still... time to open another pack of smokes |
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| 01:08.00 | usr13 | What I really need to do is switch back to network install mode. |
| 01:08.03 | liable | usr13: base-config |
| 01:08.10 | ke6isf | weasel00: It's said that sleep also ups your IQ, repairs the body, and gives your immune system a boost. |
| 01:08.12 | usr13 | Yes... that's it. |
| 01:08.26 | ke6isf | weasel00: And we can't have you sneezing on upwards of 700 IRC users now, can we? =^_^= |
| 01:08.46 | weasel00 | ke6isf : thanks for your global concerns lol |
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| 01:09.00 | ke6isf | weasel00: You're welcome. =^_^= |
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| 01:09.12 | ke6isf | Hmm.... "Your stupid!" ...my stupid what? |
| 01:09.14 | tobehz | what the fuck |
| 01:09.24 | tobehz | this is ridic >_> |
| 01:09.39 | lazzarello | PerfDave: looks like it's updated in sid. should be safe to download it from there. |
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| 01:09.57 | PerfDave | lazzarello: Is it reported as a bug in stable? |
| 01:10.03 | weasel00 | why inst the irc channel list updating... grr... |
| 01:10.33 | lazzarello | PerfDave: I didn't find anything after skimming, but I did see references to a more recent driver version. |
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| 01:11.10 | PerfDave | lazzarello: It's probably worth reporting as a bug then, just so it's on the BTS. It's also possible (though unlikely) that a more recent driver could be included in a later stable point release. |
| 01:11.24 | lazzarello | I'm not crossing my fingers :) |
| 01:11.28 | kenrick | whats the complete (apt-get) cmd to upgrade the kern to 2.6? |
| 01:11.48 | lazzarello | my backport + custom package list is getting /very large/ |
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| 01:12.05 | PerfDave | kenrick: In your case, "apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686" |
| 01:12.21 | kenrick | perfDave: i've tried that don't think it can find the package |
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| 01:12.50 | lazzarello | kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 01:12.52 | PerfDave | kenrick: In that case, there's something wrong with your apt sources. Run "apt-setup" as root. |
| 01:13.48 | kenrick | yeah lazzarello thx |
| 01:13.54 | kenrick | that package works ;) |
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| 01:15.48 | EmeraldCat | hello, I just installed Knoppix 3.3 which converted itself to a Debian System. I want to know, how can I change the screen size (resolution) of X windows |
| 01:15.50 | kenrick | perfDave: i finished the apt-get process now what? |
| 01:16.02 | PerfDave | EmeraldCat: Ask #knoppix :) |
| 01:16.09 | pjv | anyone here use dia? |
| 01:16.29 | PerfDave | kenrick: You should just need to reboot. But your apt sources are still broken. |
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| 01:16.44 | kenrick | perfDave: nah its working just the package name was wrong |
| 01:16.45 | EmeraldCat | PrefDave: But Knoppix `converted' to Debian -- shouldn't I ask here? |
| 01:16.58 | litage | if you get an ISDN line into your equipment in a data centre, can you dial into that ISDN line from a POTS line at home? |
| 01:17.08 | PerfDave | kenrick: kenrick No, your apt sources are wrong. |
| 01:17.10 | ke6isf | kenrick: The package that he gave you exists in main. Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood, please? |
| 01:17.17 | PerfDave | kenrick: http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 01:17.26 | ke6isf | EmeraldCat: Because it's not Debian. |
| 01:17.26 | chealer | EmeraldCat: installing Debian using Knoppix is a bad idea. if you want to install Debian, just install Debian |
| 01:17.30 | ke6isf | !knoppix |
| 01:17.30 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. |
| 01:17.32 | PerfDave | EmeraldCat: It's "PerfDave", not "PrefDave" |
| 01:17.42 | EmeraldCat | Sorry. |
| 01:17.46 | kenrick | perfDave: i'll give it a reboot see what happens |
| 01:17.55 | kenrick | perfDave: thx for the help |
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| 01:17.58 | PerfDave | EmeraldCat: I have no idea what Knoppix has done. It has claimed in the past to be Debian, or Debian-related, and it has not been. |
| 01:18.15 | Flaksi | I wanted to install debian. But unfortunately it would seem I'll have to stick with windows or find a distro that supports the NIC better... |
| 01:18.37 | Flaksi | if at all. hah. |
| 01:18.48 | PerfDave | Flaksi: What NIC do you have? |
| 01:18.53 | EmeraldCat | PerfDave: Do you know how do I automagically get X-Chat to type your nick when I want to address you? |
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| 01:19.07 | PerfDave | EmeraldCat: No idea, but I'd guess that it involves the tab key. |
| 01:19.07 | ke6isf | Flaksi: You haven't tried a tulip driver, have you? |
| 01:19.11 | Flaksi | PerfDave, it's what I've spent two hours trying to find out. |
| 01:19.18 | Flaksi | what's a tulip driver? |
| 01:19.19 | PerfDave | Flaksi: "lspci" doesn't tell you? |
| 01:19.40 | ke6isf | Flaksi: It is, for all intents and purposes, a generic PCI NIC driver - but not. |
| 01:19.50 | ke6isf | Flaksi: In short, give it a shot and see what she does. |
| 01:19.52 | PerfDave | Frankly, with brand new Linux-friendly NICs being about six quid, I'd just go buy a new onw :) |
| 01:20.12 | Flaksi | so much hassle. |
| 01:20.25 | ke6isf | Flaksi: That's all what you make of it. |
| 01:20.35 | ke6isf | Flaksi: Yours is a not too common problem.... |
| 01:20.48 | Flaksi | well don't I feel special :) |
| 01:20.51 | ke6isf | s/yours/your's |
| 01:21.42 | PerfDave | Yeah, people with common problems either get them fixed so Debian solves them automatically, or get dispatched to a dpkg factoid quickly ;) |
| 01:21.57 | Flaksi | heh |
| 01:22.13 | EmeraldCat | PerfDave: Well, my question is not really Knoppix specific... I tried to use [xrandr] to change the resoltuion, and it worked, but I could only see parts of some windows and I could not even scroll around as in a virtual desktop. Maybe I should ask this question in #kde? |
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| 01:22.51 | Flaksi | well, I did follow the guidelines, but I'll do a try now... and use lspci. noob enough to have forgotten that one. |
| 01:23.05 | PerfDave | EmeraldCat: Maybe you should. But Knoppix probably use different X servers (or different customisations of X servers), configurations, hardware detection etc. to Debian, which is why asking on #debian isn't a good idea. |
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| 01:24.00 | EmeraldCat | PerfDave: Ok. |
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| 01:28.51 | agnidz | does anybody know the dhcp option number for setting the /etc/network/interfaces-equivalent of network? |
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| 01:31.07 | pingouin | is it a good idea to choose an DVD-recorder in Sata ? supported under linux ? |
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| 01:31.50 | kenrick | perfDave: is there anyway to detect my tumb drive? |
| 01:31.54 | cindy | agnidz, my is iface ath0 inet dhcp |
| 01:32.09 | agnidz | "dhcp option number" |
| 01:32.30 | cindy | i just wrote my in |
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| 01:36.49 | joelperez | will i be klined if i said "[dccsomething, removed]" |
| 01:37.09 | zinx | probably. |
| 01:37.09 | tobehz | why would you say that in the first place. |
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| 01:37.23 | joelperez | why not, it does no harm |
| 01:37.27 | Mike-_- | hum, my debian stable (sarge) is strangly unstable in som cases.. .. mozilla and elephanty chokes when downloading a file. and changing the background in gnome tilts... |
| 01:37.29 | zinx | it disconnects people. |
| 01:37.33 | tobehz | :] |
| 01:37.36 | zinx | that's a DoS. it's harm. |
| 01:37.39 | joelperez | no it dosnt |
| 01:37.47 | joelperez | [dccsomething, removed] |
| 01:37.51 | tobehz | then why do you want to say it |
| 01:37.52 | usr13 | I've installed what I need and would like to do updates. (I installed from CD). What command do I use to update what I have installed? |
| 01:37.53 | joelperez | does not disconnect people |
| 01:37.56 | tobehz | there has to be a reason :> |
| 01:37.56 | novem | whats the most popular smtp/pop3 mail server for debian? |
| 01:38.00 | zinx | joelperez: no, that doesn't |
| 01:38.03 | karsten | usr13: man apt-get |
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| 01:38.12 | zinx | joelperez: i figured you were talking about the cheaporouter bug, however |
| 01:38.18 | VOVesponja | :D |
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| 01:38.28 | joelperez | no zinx that's nother thing |
| 01:38.30 | zinx | joelperez: for which you will get k-lined for |
| 01:39.04 | joelperez | k, good...cause i have this crazy person in pm, he/she is all telling i will be k-lined fast |
| 01:39.10 | joelperez | because i said |
| 01:39.12 | joelperez | [dccsomething, removed] |
| 01:39.15 | karsten | usr13: There's also an excellent documentation section at http://www.debian.org/ which you're strongly encouraged to visit. |
| 01:39.41 | cafuego | ARGH! |
| 01:39.52 | karsten | cafuego: Ye maties! |
| 01:40.15 | cafuego | joelperez: A certainb version of that string is an explait against certain broadband users. Trying that exploit gets you kicked off th freenode servers for good. |
| 01:40.18 | cafuego | karsten: eh! |
| 01:40.31 | karsten | cafuego: "Argh!" |
| 01:40.48 | cafuego | karsten: nono, that's "Arrr". |
| 01:40.59 | karsten | cafuego: I'm desperate. |
| 01:41.11 | cafuego | Desperate to talk like a pirate? |
| 01:41.20 | karsten | cafuego: Arr! |
| 01:41.43 | cafuego | It's all about doing, not talking ;-) |
| 01:41.47 | zinx | karsten: every day in #debian is sunday... so why can't every day also be talk-like-a-pirate day?! |
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| 01:41.52 | usr13 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:42.02 | karsten | usr13: NP. |
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| 01:42.13 | novem | what smtp/pop3 mail server is the most popular on debian, other then xmail? anyone? |
| 01:42.33 | karsten | !tell novem about repeat |
| 01:42.42 | mfrisch | novem: I like dovecot it does pop3 and imap |
| 01:42.44 | karsten | !tell novem about popcon |
| 01:42.47 | gravity | novem: Check popcon? |
| 01:42.53 | novem | thanks ;o) |
| 01:43.01 | Mask | I'm trying to remove kaffe (I installed Java myself), but gjdoc relies on kaffe. kaffe-pthreads relies on gjdoc, and kaffe relies on kaffe-pthreads. How can I just remove kaffe? |
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| 01:43.45 | pppoe_dude | is there a way to 'print to file' using LPR from the commandine? |
| 01:43.50 | pppoe_dude | *line |
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| 01:44.04 | pppoe_dude | or using another program for that matter |
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| 01:44.25 | tobehz | how the heck do you set the /etc/network/interfaces network option in isc dhpcd? |
| 01:44.36 | tobehz | the /etc/network/interfaces network option equivalent, rather. |
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| 01:46.28 | pppoe_dude | please and thanks |
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| 01:47.38 | Flaksi | PerfDave, I tried lcpci, but most of what I got were listed as "unknown devices". |
| 01:49.33 | Flaksi | guess this is one comp that won't be having debian on it for a while. |
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| 01:50.00 | mfrisch | Flaksi: whats your problem |
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| 01:51.08 | Flaksi | It's the NIC drivers. Debian doesn't come with the one's for my motherboard, and there are absolutely no solutions to be found. Let alone drivers. |
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| 01:52.46 | mfrisch | Flaksi: hhm. It sounds like it's onboard. Put another nic in install then make the nic to work, maybe. |
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| 01:53.19 | pppoe_dude | is there a fast way (from comamand line) to convert PNG -> Postscript? |
| 01:53.57 | Flaksi | Realtek (the manufacturer) says its chip doesn't need drivers, but that it's a PHY chip, and that I should be looking for the MAC chip, which is nowhere to be found. |
| 01:54.11 | GoAuLd | flaksi: try a recent kernel 2.6.x |
| 01:54.15 | Flaksi | did |
| 01:54.32 | Flaksi | 2.4 won't work because it hangs up on installation |
| 01:54.54 | GoAuLd | and you are still getting unknown devices? |
| 01:55.02 | Flaksi | yes |
| 01:56.02 | Flaksi | it should be the latest update, but I'm not too sure about it. |
| 01:56.30 | zinx | Flaski: i'm searching the scrollback for which chip you have, and not seeing it anywhere.. mind repeating? |
| 01:56.42 | GoAuLd | the only not working thing is the ethernet right ? |
| 01:57.13 | Flaksi | The motherboard is an asus a7n8x-xe with a Realtek RTL8201BL chip |
| 01:57.20 | Flaksi | yah |
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| 01:57.53 | Flaksi | well, first I'd need to install the NIC drivers, then get the ethernet working, then worry about the rest |
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| 01:58.42 | GoAuLd | maybe udev can help you if you could install it |
| 01:58.47 | GoAuLd | its like hotplug |
| 01:59.16 | GoAuLd | or try hotplug if you dont have it (better udev) |
| 01:59.41 | zinx | Flaksi: try the sis900 driver |
| 01:59.53 | Flaksi | is that included on the cd? |
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| 02:00.25 | GoAuLd | hotplug sure it is |
| 02:00.35 | zinx | Flaksi: i have no idea |
| 02:00.42 | Flaksi | hah. |
| 02:00.57 | GoAuLd | it sound to me that kernel is trying an incorrect module for you eth |
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| 02:01.07 | Flaksi | I suppose one way to do it would be to power down and take a flashlight to the motherboard and see which little trinket is on there |
| 02:01.07 | GoAuLd | hotplug or udev maybe could help |
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| 02:01.30 | zinx | Flaksi: no, one way to find out is to just try and modprobe it :/ |
| 02:01.31 | Geren | hi |
| 02:01.38 | Geren | an unrelated question |
| 02:01.46 | Nopalin | hey, how i can install libopenh323-1.18.0 ?? i cant find it on debian packages site |
| 02:01.51 | Geren | if you ask for food delivery, and they are 1 hour late, do you have the right to ask for half price? |
| 02:02.13 | Flaksi | I'm pretty much as noob as I can get. You have given me three terms already that I'll have to read about to understand. |
| 02:02.32 | karsten | Geren: Sure, you've got the right. They've got the right to refuse, and you've got the right to send 'em back. |
| 02:02.40 | Flaksi | well that's a lie. I made it this far. |
| 02:03.15 | Geren | karsten, i mean would that be considered a rude thing if i ask for half price? |
| 02:03.17 | Geren | like unethical? |
| 02:03.40 | karsten | Geren: Frankly, I think it's rude to show up an hour late with food. |
| 02:03.45 | Geren | right |
| 02:03.46 | GoAuLd | Flaksi, install hotplug and reboot, maybe that will fix it |
| 02:03.49 | karsten | Geren: I've sent deliveries back. |
| 02:03.54 | Geren | ok |
| 02:04.16 | karsten | Geren: ... like a wardrobe I'd ordered, a couple of grand, showed up in a smashed cardboard box with damage. |
| 02:04.34 | Flaksi | I think you misunderstood my situation. I'm on a windows sytem, with a debian OS waiting to be installed that needs a working NIC driver. |
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| 02:04.41 | karsten | Geren: Basic message: if you're going to deliver stuff, get it right. |
| 02:04.51 | mindmime | anyone suggest any good software for squid monitoring and graph generation? |
| 02:04.58 | karsten | mindmime: calamaris |
| 02:05.08 | mindmime | I need to generate some traffic stats from squid logs for management. |
| 02:05.11 | mindmime | karsten: thanks. |
| 02:05.15 | karsten | mindmime: Prossibly also mrtg |
| 02:05.35 | mindmime | karsten: I don't think mrtg does per IP reporting |
| 02:05.46 | chealer | Nopalin: why would you install that? |
| 02:05.56 | karsten | mindmime: Haven't used it extensively, but it does generate the graphs you give it data for. |
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| 02:06.09 | dn4 | anyone know of any streaming video websites with indie films using .ogg formats? |
| 02:06.47 | mindmime | hmm |
| 02:06.48 | karsten | mindmime: Also 'sarg': apt-cache search squid | egrep -i '(report|graph)' |
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| 02:07.43 | Nopalin | chealer: because i need it to install gnomemeeting, and i need gnomemeeting to install gnome-desktop-enviroment and i need gnome-desktop-enviroment to install gnome |
| 02:07.45 | Flaksi | GoAuLd, I don't know how to install it offline. |
| 02:08.00 | GoAuLd | from the cd |
| 02:08.10 | Flaksi | oh well in that case. |
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| 02:09.13 | chealer | Nopalin: which version? |
| 02:09.40 | Nopalin | chealer: ibopenh323-1.18.0 |
| 02:09.50 | chealer | Nopalin: of gnomemeeting |
| 02:09.51 | abrotman | that's not any version of debian afaik |
| 02:10.05 | abrotman | !find libopenh323 sid |
| 02:10.11 | Nopalin | chealer: gnomemeeting (>= 1.2.3-1experimental1) |
| 02:10.19 | abrotman | !find libopenh323 experimental |
| 02:10.24 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libopenh323' (3): (/usr/lib/libopenh323.so.1.15.6) in libs/libopenh323-1.15.6 ;; (/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libopenh323.so.1.15.6) in libdevel/libopenh323-dbg ;; (/usr/lib/{libopenh323.a|libopenh323.so}) in libdevel/libopenh323-dev. |
| 02:10.27 | abrotman | FAILED! |
| 02:10.42 | abrotman | Nopalin: there is no package for 1.18 in debian .. anywhere |
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| 02:11.28 | Nopalin | im a pretty noob on debian, i remember that i installed gnome-applets, and apt gets a very mb of data |
| 02:11.33 | chealer | Nopalin: and where do you get that version? |
| 02:11.39 | Nopalin | chealer, after that, i cant use gnome |
| 02:11.49 | abrotman | yay for sid users |
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| 02:12.46 | Nopalin | i did have gnome working very fine, byt after i donwloaded gnome-aplets, i cant use gnome, only kde |
| 02:12.56 | abrotman | Nopalin: paste your sources somewhere |
| 02:12.56 | abrotman | !paste |
| 02:12.57 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 02:13.00 | Nopalin | sorry for my english |
| 02:14.04 | Nopalin | what version of gnome i need to install, for getting a box working with it? |
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| 02:14.50 | chealer | Nopalin: the version in your release |
| 02:14.51 | abrotman | Nopalin: paste your sources somewhere |
| 02:15.08 | Nopalin | chealer: i have a box with sarge, |
| 02:15.30 | abrotman | no really .. paste your sources .. |
| 02:15.30 | Nopalin | abrotman: i cant understand .. what sources?? sources.list? |
| 02:15.35 | abrotman | yes .. those sources |
| 02:15.41 | abrotman | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:15.43 | Nopalin | letme a minute |
| 02:16.01 | Nopalin | deb http://nisamox.fciencias.unam.mx/debian/ stable main |
| 02:16.08 | Nopalin | deb-src http://nisamox.fciencias.unam.mx/debian/ stable main |
| 02:16.15 | Nopalin | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free |
| 02:16.26 | abrotman | is that it? |
| 02:16.31 | Nopalin | yes |
| 02:16.36 | abrotman | that's not a sarge box |
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| 02:18.01 | Nopalin | yes, the first two line it is... but the second is not.. i put that for getting some new packages |
| 02:18.11 | ke6isf | !mixing distros |
| 02:18.12 | dpkg | rumour has it, mixing distros is a bad idea. Running Ubuntu packages on Debian systems (or vice-versa) causes problems with package naming and versioning. Don't expect anybody to help you with your system if you do this. |
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| 02:18.53 | Nopalin | dpkg: but i dont use ubuntu packages for |
| 02:19.15 | ke6isf | Nopalin: It's still a bad idea. Adding unstable packages to Sarge has a nasty habit of doing that. |
| 02:19.16 | stoft | Nopalin: without some "pinning" of your apt sources you're probably getting most/all your packages from unstable. |
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| 02:19.45 | stoft | (pls correct me someone if I'm wrong, still new att this as well) |
| 02:19.48 | ke6isf | Nopalin: BTW, dpkg is a bot. |
| 02:20.14 | abrotman | Nopalin: the last one takes precednet |
| 02:20.16 | Nopalin | stoft: i think thar only the packages installed like this "apt-get install package/unstable" are getting from unstable repository |
| 02:20.26 | abrotman | so you're not running sarge |
| 02:20.46 | p00ya | i have 2 sound cards (onboard and ens1371), and i'm not sure whether it's because the bios is changing the relative irqs each reboot, but the order they get loaded switches. this is annoying because the alsa device addresses get switched. what's the best way to ensure a deterministic load order (or at least configure alsa so that a logical name always references the same card)? |
| 02:20.50 | abrotman | which is quite obvious .. since gnomemeeting in sarge would install |
| 02:20.52 | Nopalin | abrotman: ahhh that is not explicit on apt manual |
| 02:21.01 | abrotman | Nopalin: did you use any pinning ? |
| 02:21.03 | p00ya | when i say loaded i mean the kernel modules |
| 02:21.16 | p00ya | i'm using hotplug etc |
| 02:21.33 | abrotman | p00ya: you can use modprobe rules to make it load one before the other |
| 02:21.37 | nvz | well my first ever attempt at making chicken stir fry from scratch was pretty good. I learned not to go easy on the seasoning, and to cook my peppers and onions more beforhand.. 1min in the nuker left a few of them crunchy |
| 02:21.49 | abrotman | ew |
| 02:22.23 | Nopalin | abrotman: what is pinning? the dictionary hasn't that word :s, is contract for any other word? |
| 02:22.29 | abrotman | !pinning |
| 02:22.29 | dpkg | well, apt-pinning is read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
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| 02:22.57 | p00ya | abrotman: any pointers (files to edit or man pages)? |
| 02:23.15 | p00ya | or do you just mean /etc/modules |
| 02:23.22 | abrotman | p00ya: i think man modprobe.conf .. if not .. man modprobe .. should point you somewhere |
| 02:23.25 | Nopalin | ok, so i need to remove unstable repository and reinstall gnome? |
| 02:23.32 | _Brandon_ | hi, i have some problem with stream in g++, for ex. i got this error error: ‘cout’ was not declared in this scope |
| 02:23.42 | ke6isf | Nopalin: Well, how long have you had this line in your sources? |
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| 02:23.58 | Nopalin | 3 days ago |
| 02:24.12 | ke6isf | Nopalin: And have you done an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade? |
| 02:24.29 | Nopalin | apt-get update only |
| 02:24.33 | Nopalin | and install some packages |
| 02:24.41 | stoft | Nopalin: "to pin something down" is to press something so it can't get away |
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| 02:24.44 | abrotman | !flamethrower |
| 02:24.44 | dpkg | Ever seen what happens when you put fire to plastic? This is what happens when you mix your sarge sources with testing/unstable |
| 02:25.08 | ke6isf | Nopalin: It probably pulled in extra dependencies from unstable then. You need to reinstall the system. |
| 02:25.21 | Nopalin | dpkg: lol |
| 02:25.21 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 02:25.29 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:25.34 | bleaked | lol |
| 02:25.34 | ke6isf | Touche. =^_^= |
| 02:25.47 | abrotman | he doesn't have to reinstall .. but it probably won't ever work right :) |
| 02:25.49 | Nopalin | ke6isf: ahhhh , that is bad for me |
| 02:26.04 | ke6isf | abrotman: Well... point, but it's sure easier than doing the surgery to get it back to normal. |
| 02:26.16 | abrotman | i'm not even sure what he's actually trying to install |
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| 02:26.25 | ke6isf | abrotman: well... |
| 02:26.32 | ke6isf | Nopalin: What packages did you install since adding that line? |
| 02:26.50 | kb1_kanobe | anyone familiar with gre tunneling? I have a tunnel on one host that starts generating 'collisions' when it gets a copy of my networks routing table propagated to it via ospf. |
| 02:26.54 | dtb | im trying to find the package that has msgfmt in it ? ive installed the ones apt-cache search msgfmt shows me but it still doesnt instlal that utility? any help ? |
| 02:27.04 | Nopalin | ok, i try to reinstall gnome with stable only, so, i hope good news |
| 02:27.07 | abrotman | !tell dtb about search |
| 02:27.08 | ke6isf | !tell dtb -about search |
| 02:27.32 | ke6isf | Nopalin: Good luck. =O.o= |
| 02:27.41 | Nopalin | ke6isf: hmm some dificult, nmap, gnome-applets, samba, cpufreqd... i dont remember all |
| 02:27.43 | ke6isf | Nopalin: Don't forget to get that line out of your sources, apt-get update first. |
| 02:27.44 | Nopalin | at all |
| 02:28.00 | Nopalin | ke6isf: ok, lucky for me |
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| 02:28.17 | ke6isf | ...he's in for a world of pain.... |
| 02:28.25 | abrotman | no freaking duh |
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| 02:29.23 | Nopalin | ke6isf: damn, apt dont resolve dependency, =( |
| 02:29.37 | novem | hey guys, does debian come packaged with a default pop3/smtp server, if so whats it called? |
| 02:29.39 | dtb | im confused.. the man page for my wget tells me i can use --keep-session-variables.. also on the wget website it tells me i can use that.. although it tells me unrecognised option and i even tried the latest version of wget ... help ? |
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| 02:30.20 | Nopalin | ahhhhhhhhhhh damn |
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| 02:30.37 | Zrin | a |
| 02:30.39 | Nopalin | ok, i'm go to reinstall the system =( |
| 02:30.43 | stoft | ouch |
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| 02:30.57 | Nopalin | this is very important experience for me... |
| 02:31.08 | stoft | best way to learn |
| 02:31.14 | Nopalin | thanks to all, see u later, bytes |
| 02:31.21 | stoft | g'luck |
| 02:31.21 | Nopalin | yes, i guess :S |
| 02:31.22 | Nopalin | bytes |
| 02:31.22 | sixtymhz | Anyword on porting sguil to the repos? |
| 02:31.42 | Zrin | how to copy files from a woody server w/samba to a new sarge w/ samba, but preserve file names with non-ASCII characters? |
| 02:31.43 | sixtymhz | I think I saw something about asking "permission" to port from of the deps for it. |
| 02:31.43 | abrotman | !tell sixtymhz about wnpp |
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| 02:32.23 | Zrin | I tries rsync, but it does not transfer file names "correctly" |
| 02:33.16 | sixtymhz | interesting |
| 02:33.17 | Zrin | As I can see, tar also can't conver file name charset (?) |
| 02:33.17 | sixtymhz | thanks |
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| 02:34.07 | Zrin | Is there any chance to get file names right besides copying to a windows machine and then back (many GiB) |
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| 02:36.55 | abrotman | xapaho: that's not just faulty .. i'm surprised it ever worked |
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| 02:37.30 | xapaho | abrotman: thanks -- well, it does not work at all indeed -- what's so wrong with it? |
| 02:38.01 | abrotman | xapaho: what is the error when you `apt-get update` ? |
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| 02:39.14 | myren | umm, i formatted my 300gb hard drive with ext3, but i ran out of inodes |
| 02:39.21 | myren | i'm only 220 gb through it |
| 02:39.22 | xapaho | abrotman: it says line 35 is faulty (wine.sourceforge.net) |
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| 02:39.31 | abrotman | xapaho: you can't paste the error ? |
| 02:39.35 | myren | i couldnt see any way to adjust that in tune2fs |
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| 02:39.46 | segin | xapaho: http://pastebin.com/ |
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| 02:40.18 | almacscott | <paster> "xapaho" at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx pasted "my faulty souces.list -- no connection to any repository, but empty error message" (56 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/1997 |
| 02:40.20 | xapaho | abrotman: the error is in French ;-) literraly, it says line 35 is not well formed |
| 02:40.22 | ricky | what module does debconf use to configure wireless cards when first installing linux, i'd like to be able to configure a wireless card (orinoco) with some sort of GUI-ish program. |
| 02:40.22 | almacscott | from flood |
| 02:40.22 | abrotman | xapaho: comment it out .. it's totally fouled up |
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| 02:40.30 | abrotman | almacscott: thanks .. i saw it |
| 02:41.12 | Zrin | is there a way to copy files from woody to sarge and preserve file names with non-ASCII characters? |
| 02:41.26 | abrotman | xapaho: you're missing hte slash on the end |
| 02:41.29 | ricky | scsi |
| 02:41.34 | abrotman | deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ |
| 02:41.38 | abrotman | so says the winehq site |
| 02:42.17 | Aghaster | hi, i have an error i really cannot solve after hours ( what am i saying, days ) of trying to fix this. i am kinda deseperate now. I cannot get any foreign keyboard config to work with latest xorg and gnome, i always get this error message at each logon: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/0UyQmi59.html and each time the keyboard settings are overidden with the us keyboard. if i try to modify the configuration it will pop me tha |
| 02:42.17 | Aghaster | t error message again |
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| 02:42.29 | Aghaster | please, anybody help me out! |
| 02:42.31 | xapaho | abrotman: damn, I would not have guessed the ended / were important -- should I have some everywhere ? |
| 02:42.37 | ricky | somebody help me out |
| 02:42.44 | ricky | im on dialup here |
| 02:42.50 | abrotman | xapaho: nope .. not if the others work . the winehq site has the / .. you should have too :) |
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| 02:43.01 | abrotman | ricky: it's dhcp isn't it ? |
| 02:43.04 | Aghaster | somebody* |
| 02:43.07 | Aghaster | please |
| 02:43.08 | ricky | abrotman: yep |
| 02:43.25 | ricky | abrotman: but it doesnt self-configure like the other cards do. |
| 02:43.31 | abrotman | why not? |
| 02:43.38 | ricky | mayvbe the chipset isnt the same in all brands of WaveLan cards? |
| 02:43.56 | ricky | my Silver cards work fine, but this bronze card doesnt work, and i dunno why? |
| 02:43.58 | abrotman | Aghaster: did you check the BTS? |
| 02:44.10 | abrotman | ricky: maybe it's a different chiset? |
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| 02:44.13 | abrotman | chipset? |
| 02:44.16 | Aghaster | BTS? |
| 02:44.16 | deadcat | ricky: cant do that for a bronze card |
| 02:44.21 | bleaked | if one was in the market for a new notebook, would anyone be willing to offer some suggestions? |
| 02:44.28 | abrotman | !bts |
| 02:44.28 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 02:44.30 | ricky | deadcat: cant do what? |
| 02:44.36 | abrotman | bleaked: IBM/Lenovo .. i guess |
| 02:44.44 | ricky | abrotman: well it *SEES* the card. |
| 02:44.47 | deadcat | ricky: whatever you try to do that you did with the silver. bronze wont work |
| 02:44.54 | dvs | abrotman: your money grows on trees? ;-) |
| 02:45.02 | bleaked | abrotman. i was looking at those yesterday..they're AS expensive as apple, and less features. |
| 02:45.04 | abrotman | dvs: i have a thinkpad |
| 02:45.08 | jbrimble | me 2 |
| 02:45.12 | Aghaster | abrot: oh God i did! i did! |
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| 02:45.24 | ricky | deadcat: right, the bronze didnt work. is it dead ro what? |
| 02:45.24 | xapaho | abrotman: I added the /, but get the same error message (not well formed) |
| 02:45.26 | ricky | or |
| 02:45.29 | Aghaster | i've been working at it all the day |
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| 02:45.32 | abrotman | bleaked: it depends on which models you look at .. you can get a TP for like $750 |
| 02:45.39 | Aghaster | i still cannot find what's wrong |
| 02:45.42 | abrotman | xapaho: paste your sources again |
| 02:45.48 | deadcat | ricky: you using the wavelan or orinoco ? |
| 02:45.52 | ricky | wavelan |
| 02:45.54 | abrotman | hi quadrata ? |
| 02:45.54 | deadcat | hmm |
| 02:45.55 | ricky | bronze |
| 02:46.00 | quadrata | and deadcat |
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| 02:46.05 | myren | i ran out of inodes on my ext3 drive! |
| 02:46.07 | myren | wtf do i do |
| 02:46.08 | xapaho | abrotman: forgimme ;-) progressing.. |
| 02:46.10 | myren | i cant create more files |
| 02:46.14 | ricky | myren: lol. |
| 02:46.18 | abrotman | myren: you backup .. reformat .. restore |
| 02:46.18 | mattman | Can anybody point me to some Debian Etch sources? |
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| 02:46.31 | abrotman | !tell mattman about sarge->etch |
| 02:46.39 | abrotman | mattman: beware .. some stuff may be broken |
| 02:46.47 | Aghaster | http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian/ |
| 02:46.53 | ricky | deadcat: what do ya think |
| 02:47.07 | mattman | abrotman: i know.. hold on ill brb. ill need that pm again i cant open my pm windows. brb |
| 02:47.09 | ricky | it appears to be scanning for AP's |
| 02:47.21 | deadcat | ricky: dont know man.. i've never messed with a bronze before.. those are the oldest wireless cards (= |
| 02:47.34 | abrotman | myren: which partition is it? |
| 02:47.44 | ricky | deadcat: so what can we use...? its a old laptop too :p |
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| 02:47.51 | Aghaster | abrotman: any idea for my big problem? :'( |
| 02:47.58 | ricky | deadcat: i love my wavelan silver card |
| 02:47.58 | deadcat | ricky: no clue man |
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| 02:48.07 | ricky | deadcat: hmm... |
| 02:48.08 | abrotman | Aghaster: file a bug? ... no clue really |
| 02:48.14 | Aghaster | errr |
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| 02:48.25 | Aghaster | this is really pissing me off, there are a lot of bug reports about it |
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| 02:48.28 | Aghaster | but no working solution |
| 02:48.29 | deadcat | ricky: orinoco cards are no good now.. if its open network then its ok |
| 02:48.37 | abrotman | !tell mattman about sarge->etch |
| 02:48.39 | mattman | abrotman: could you have dpkg message me again please |
| 02:48.40 | myren | abrotman: its my data partitions |
| 02:48.42 | ricky | deadcat: mine supports wep. |
| 02:48.42 | mattman | k ty |
| 02:48.52 | abrotman | myren: no kidding .. WHICH partition? /porn? |
| 02:48.53 | ricky | deadcat: they're still OK. and this one IS open network |
| 02:48.53 | myren | abrotman: i dont have a spare 200gb to reformat with |
| 02:48.58 | deadcat | ricky: wep 64bit unless you hack it to a gold.. |
| 02:49.08 | myren | more live /movies /tv |
| 02:49.10 | ricky | deadcat: how's that done? |
| 02:49.19 | myren | and the unfortunate death dealer himself, /comics |
| 02:49.30 | abrotman | myren: and you're sure you're out of inodes? df -i |
| 02:49.38 | myren | yeah, 99% used |
| 02:49.43 | deadcat | ricky: search for orinoco silver to gold hack |
| 02:49.50 | myren | i should've frakking stuck with reiser |
| 02:49.56 | ricky | deadcat: doing that right now |
| 02:49.59 | abrotman | myren: that has nothing to do with it |
| 02:50.10 | abrotman | myren: you have no way to backup that data? |
| 02:50.14 | myren | none |
| 02:50.25 | myren | i suppose i could "purchase" a 300gb hd |
| 02:50.27 | ricky | myren: RFS sucks |
| 02:50.27 | abrotman | myren: you could tar up the comics .. i assume they're smaller files .. |
| 02:50.28 | myren | for a short period of time |
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| 02:50.39 | abrotman | myren: so tar up the older ones .. which would free up inodes |
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| 02:51.14 | myren | yyeaaah that might help a bunch |
| 02:51.16 | abrotman | xapaho: is it all working ? |
| 02:51.20 | ke6isf | myren: tar --remove-files -zcvf comics.tar.gz /comics/ |
| 02:51.21 | abrotman | myren: is that sarcasm ? |
| 02:51.22 | ricky | deadcat: the card is probably dead. we bought it off of ebay a few weeks ago. |
| 02:51.28 | mattman | abrotman: thanks i got it now.. appreciate it :) |
| 02:51.29 | deadcat | ah |
| 02:51.54 | ricky | damnit dumb ebay |
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| 02:52.20 | abrotman | ricky: i'm sure i'll feel the same way in a few days |
| 02:52.33 | ricky | abrotman: how so? |
| 02:52.39 | Zrin | is there a way to copy files from woody to sarge and preserve file names with non-ASCII characters? |
| 02:52.47 | ricky | when i sell stuff and it doesnt work, I *TELL* people |
| 02:52.56 | myren | abrotman: no, no sarcasm |
| 02:53.03 | abrotman | ricky: i needed a replacement mobo .. got a pull |
| 02:53.25 | ricky | abrotman: lol. yah ive done that b4 |
| 02:53.30 | ricky | my mobo worked though. |
| 02:53.31 | abrotman | ricky: the original part of the manuf was .. $2400USD :) |
| 02:53.47 | ricky | abrotman: classic computer? or just expensive old stuff |
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| 02:53.58 | abrotman | ricky: IBM xseries/netfinity |
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| 02:54.04 | ricky | abrotman: oh, |
| 02:54.40 | ricky | expensive NEW stuff heh |
| 02:54.46 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:55.02 | ricky | well, i work with old stuff myself |
| 02:55.13 | abrotman | no .. this is for work |
| 02:55.16 | ricky | my main computer is a 160Mhz apple PowerPC |
| 02:55.19 | ricky | ah. |
| 02:55.24 | ricky | thatds what i figured |
| 02:55.49 | MatBoy | Who has Debian Running on an iBook ? |
| 02:56.01 | abrotman | !ppc |
| 02:56.01 | dpkg | i guess ppc is a RISC microprocessor architecture created by Apple-IBM-Motorola alliance(AIM) in 1991. Originally intended for workstations, PowerPC CPUs have since become popular embedded and high-performance processors as well. PowerPC was the cornerstone of AIM's PReP and Common Hardware Reference Platform initiatives in the 90s but the arch was most successful in the personal computer market in Apple's Power Macintosh line.(2000) askme debianppc |
| 02:56.06 | xapaho | abrotman: yes, sorry for the delay -- loveya, many thanks |
| 02:56.07 | ricky | MatBoy: i had debian on my G4 and a G3 before |
| 02:56.15 | MatBoy | worked well ? |
| 02:56.16 | abrotman | who fucked that up |
| 02:56.18 | abrotman | !debianppc |
| 02:56.18 | dpkg | it has been said that debianppc is /join #debianppc PowerPC port: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc. FAQs: Debian CDs are not and cannot be bootable on OldWorld PowerMacs. Info on proper partitioning can be found at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt, the yaboot HOWTO can be found at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/yaboot-howto.html |
| 02:56.25 | usr13 | how to query the DHCP server. |
| 02:56.27 | ricky | MatBoy: I hated it. |
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| 02:56.36 | usr13 | for new IP? |
| 02:56.38 | MatBoy | ricky, why ? |
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| 02:56.48 | usr13 | or re-start the network |
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| 02:56.49 | ke6isf | abrotman: You're running testing? |
| 02:56.50 | ricky | MatBoy: apple is for OS X, not Debian IMO |
| 02:56.54 | abrotman | ke6isf: yeah |
| 02:57.01 | ke6isf | abrotman: How's it working these days? |
| 02:57.02 | abrotman | ricky: you mean PPC |
| 02:57.07 | abrotman | ke6isf: seems mostly ok to me |
| 02:57.08 | MatBoy | ricky, but there are many people running it OK |
| 02:57.20 | ricky | MatBoy: but to each thier own. |
| 02:57.26 | ke6isf | abrotman: Mostly? Figure I'm thinking of bumping my ws to etch. |
| 02:57.27 | xapaho | abrotman: would u recommend the use of priorities, to give precedence to testing versus unstable ? seen that on several forums |
| 02:57.29 | quadrata | linux runs fine on PPC |
| 02:57.36 | abrotman | ke6isf: what are you using ? |
| 02:57.40 | abrotman | xapaho: uhm .. yes |
| 02:57.43 | ricky | im not saying it doesnt run fine |
| 02:57.48 | ricky | it ran great and fast |
| 02:57.48 | ke6isf | abrotman: Right now? Sarge. |
| 02:57.56 | ricky | i didnt like it at all |
| 02:57.57 | abrotman | ke6isf: i meant .. gnome/kde/xfce ? |
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| 02:58.03 | xapaho | abrotman: okeydookey, will do, ta |
| 02:58.04 | ke6isf | abrotman: Ah. Gnome. |
| 02:58.07 | abrotman | ke6isf: and what's your video card? |
| 02:58.09 | almacscott | im on ibookg4 with sid |
| 02:58.18 | ricky | i guess mostly because all of my other comps were debian and i needed something with a little more flair |
| 02:58.21 | ke6isf | abrotman: Lemme look. I think it's an ATI though. |
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| 02:58.31 | abrotman | ke6isf: i mean .. do you use the binary-only drivers? |
| 02:58.33 | karsten | mindmime: Don't /msg people w/o asking |
| 02:58.48 | karsten | mindmime: See /topic |
| 02:58.52 | ke6isf | abrotman: Yeah. |
| 02:59.05 | abrotman | ke6isf: what is your card .. lspci | grep -i vga |
| 02:59.10 | ke6isf | abrotman: Thanks. |
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| 02:59.25 | TheBest | how i can install PHP GD or GD2 |
| 02:59.28 | ke6isf | abrotman: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF/SG AGP |
| 02:59.34 | abrotman | TheBest: apt-cache search php gd |
| 02:59.42 | abrotman | ke6isf: you don't need binary drivers from ATI for that |
| 02:59.54 | abrotman | ke6isf: afaik .. you should be fine going to etch .. |
| 03:00.01 | ke6isf | abrotman: So a dist-upgrade should work fairly smoothly then? |
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| 03:00.08 | abrotman | ke6isf: except that pesky udev crap |
| 03:00.16 | ke6isf | !udev |
| 03:00.16 | dpkg | i guess udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
| 03:00.37 | ke6isf | abrotman: Is udev non-optional? |
| 03:00.41 | abrotman | ke6isf: the easiest thing to do .. grab the kernel-image and linux-image 2.6's from etch . install those manually .. then do the dist-upgrade .. and pray |
| 03:00.42 | TheBest | tnx abrotman |
| 03:00.49 | abrotman | ke6isf: not if you've the gnome metapackage installed |
| 03:00.49 | dvs | ke6isf: It's optional... and great! |
| 03:00.51 | ricky | yawn, see ya |
| 03:00.55 | segin | ke6isf: Pretty much. |
| 03:00.57 | ricky | thx again abrotman and deadcat |
| 03:01.01 | ricky | this is britt, btw |
| 03:01.02 | ricky | later |
| 03:01.12 | abrotman | ricky is britt? |
| 03:01.23 | abrotman | does that mean anything to anyone? |
| 03:01.31 | deadcat | no |
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| 03:01.47 | ke6isf | Well, if I could import my old Mandreck configs into Debian for my servers, a dist-upgrade can't be that bad. |
| 03:01.55 | ke6isf | I'll do it... later. |
| 03:02.04 | abrotman | do it now! |
| 03:02.07 | ke6isf | !lastseen britt |
| 03:02.12 | ke6isf | abrotman: No! |
| 03:02.12 | abrotman | !seen britt |
| 03:02.13 | dpkg | britt <n=britt@12-208-237-31.client.insightBB.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1d 13h 6m ago, saying: 'ludwig: tag!'. |
| 03:02.25 | ke6isf | Well, we have a britt... |
| 03:02.32 | abrotman | same hostmask |
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| 03:02.35 | bernardo | How do i remove a user? |
| 03:02.41 | Stevie | deluser |
| 03:02.43 | deadcat | bernardo: userdel -r |
| 03:02.44 | ke6isf | bernardo: userdel |
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| 03:02.53 | bernardo | thanx |
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| 03:03.42 | bernardo | How do i install the gutenprint driver for printers? |
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| 03:04.13 | ftp3 | hi.. I am wanting to use apt to install apache 2.2.0 with php and ssl support.. is there a site or somewhere that tells how to do this with apt? I have googled up a storm and i keep getting old sites or imcorrect apt info (old versions of stuff) |
| 03:05.30 | almacscott | ftp3, apt-cache search <package>, did u know it ? |
| 03:05.53 | abrotman | !u |
| 03:05.53 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:05.57 | abrotman | apache2.2 isn't in sid yet |
| 03:06.06 | ke6isf | !info apache2 |
| 03:06.07 | dpkg | apache2: (next generation, scalable, extendable web server), section web, is optional. Version: 2.0.55-4 (sid), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 80 kB |
| 03:06.12 | almacscott | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.23 | bernardo | How can i watch a dvd movie on debian? |
| 03:06.26 | ke6isf | almacscott: You can get the source, unpack it, and read the README and INSTALL files, in that order. |
| 03:06.29 | ke6isf | bernardo: totem. |
| 03:06.38 | almacscott | ke6isf, ??? |
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| 03:07.07 | ke6isf | almacscott: What part confused you? |
| 03:07.14 | bernardo | ke6isf: but he require the libdvdcss |
| 03:07.26 | ke6isf | !installit |
| 03:07.26 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 03:07.48 | ke6isf | !tell bernardo -about marillat |
| 03:08.01 | abrotman | bernardo: no |
| 03:08.08 | ftp3 | yes, thank you, but my question is about installing the apache2 with php and ssl support.. does apt-get install apache2 just dp that by default? |
| 03:08.09 | abrotman | libdvdread works in some cases |
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| 03:08.25 | ke6isf | almacscott: ...wait, that was for ftp3. Sorry |
| 03:08.29 | abrotman | rather .. it does work for me |
| 03:08.33 | almacscott | ke6isf, yep :D |
| 03:08.36 | almacscott | ^^ |
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| 03:08.49 | ke6isf | ftp3: Yes, it does - but it won't install 2.2.0. What version of Debian are you running? |
| 03:09.02 | bernardo | abrotman: is there another way? |
| 03:09.16 | almacscott | ke6isf, it doesn't :/ |
| 03:09.19 | ftp3 | 3.1 |
| 03:09.31 | ke6isf | almacscott: ...you're right. |
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| 03:09.50 | ftp3 | i dont mind it installing 2.0.55 for now.. :-) I did not know it did all that by default |
| 03:09.50 | abrotman | bernardo: libdvdread .. like i said |
| 03:09.53 | almacscott | ftp3, apt-cache search apache2 plz |
| 03:10.04 | ke6isf | ftp3: Listen to almacscott here. |
| 03:10.09 | abrotman | !fr |
| 03:10.09 | dpkg | fr is probably Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debianfr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debianfr |
| 03:10.10 | ftp3 | almac, I did, there are tons of packages |
| 03:10.16 | abrotman | apache2.2 IS NOT IN DEBIAN |
| 03:10.23 | almacscott | ftp3, did u know less ? |
| 03:10.29 | abrotman | !info libdvdread3 sarge |
| 03:10.29 | segin | Debian's stable tree is as old as my grandmother |
| 03:10.32 | bernardo | abrotman: but i can't install it...it says impossible to find package! |
| 03:10.34 | dpkg | libdvdread3: (Simple foundation for reading DVDs), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.4-5 (sarge), Packaged size: 52 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
| 03:10.35 | abrotman | !tell almacscott about u |
| 03:10.44 | abrotman | bernardo: it's libdvdread3 |
| 03:10.46 | ke6isf | segin: Your grandmother was born in June? |
| 03:10.50 | weasel00 | deb apache is 2.0.55 |
| 03:10.53 | u | I know less |
| 03:11.12 | bernardo | abrotman: ohh....i got it thanx |
| 03:11.19 | abrotman | idiots |
| 03:11.35 | TheBest | how i make config.php file writable |
| 03:11.40 | Stevie | chmod usually works |
| 03:12.01 | TheBest | chmod 755 config.php |
| 03:12.05 | bernardo | abrotman: i installed it but it still can't play my dvd... |
| 03:12.11 | Deb_Troll | why is it the name calling happens when i walk back to the screen? |
| 03:12.16 | Nancy_Troll | Deb_Troll: ;-) |
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| 03:12.23 | abrotman | bernardo: it depends on the DVds .. i have no libdvdcss here . but i can watch dvds |
| 03:12.50 | bernardo | abrotman: what is the real name of the libdvdcss? (to install it) |
| 03:13.00 | abrotman | !tell bernardo about libdvdcss |
| 03:13.12 | abrotman | !tell bernardo about marillat |
| 03:13.59 | TheBest | Stevie what chmod i can use to be file writable |
| 03:14.59 | Stevie-O | 666 |
| 03:15.05 | TheBest | tnx |
| 03:15.20 | bernardo | abrotman: ...? |
| 03:15.27 | Stevie-O | be warned that 666 might allow your computer to be possessed |
| 03:15.33 | Stevie-O | so make sure you sprinkle it with holy water |
| 03:15.41 | ke6isf | Stevie-O: No, just the appropriate file. |
| 03:15.50 | Stevie-O | thats what I meant |
| 03:16.15 | Stevie-O | And if your cd-rom drive starts spewing pea soup, call Jane Fonda |
| 03:16.49 | abrotman | bernardo: libdvdcss is not in debian .. you have to use the marillat sources |
| 03:16.49 | Stevie-O | or Richard Simmons |
| 03:17.12 | Stevie-O | any exercist will do, actually |
| 03:17.51 | abrotman | exorcist |
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| 03:18.12 | bernardo | abrotman: sorry, but what is marillat? |
| 03:18.20 | Stevie-O | no, exercist |
| 03:18.25 | abrotman | !tell bernardo about marillat |
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| 03:18.34 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 03:18.34 | dpkg | i heard ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian.. |
| 03:19.12 | Stevie-O | Jane Fonda or Richard Simmons is a good first choice |
| 03:19.24 | abrotman | Stevie-O: exorcist |
| 03:19.33 | Stevie-O | no, I said *exercist* |
| 03:19.43 | Stevie-O | you don't seem to be listening to me :) |
| 03:19.54 | abrotman | oh . the workout freaks |
| 03:20.02 | abrotman | exercist isn't a word i don't think :) |
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| 03:20.21 | Stevie-O | No, but it's workable for a pun. |
| 03:20.34 | abrotman | not if the only person paying attention thinks you can't spell :) |
| 03:20.45 | Stevie-O | bah |
| 03:20.59 | Stevie-O | I cna spel real god |
| 03:21.05 | Stevie-O | bettr then u! |
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| 03:21.20 | Stevie-O | u r nt asg ood as i m |
| 03:21.29 | Stevie-O | okay, eww, that was too much |
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| 03:23.37 | SUPYO | DCC SEND 5497479795847809495497867967985 |
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| 03:23.50 | ke6isf | !ops SUPYO doing exploit |
| 03:23.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: SUPYO doing exploit |
| 03:23.56 | dvs | ke6isf: he's gone |
| 03:24.01 | ke6isf | ...yes. Missed. |
| 03:24.05 | abrotman | hopefully he'll get klined |
| 03:24.09 | ke6isf | dvs: Still warrants a ban I think. |
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| 03:25.24 | abrotman | ke6isf: go figure .. he's an ubuntu person |
| 03:25.35 | abrotman | ke6isf: /whois ubuntu |
| 03:25.44 | abrotman | oh . he's gon now |
| 03:25.48 | abrotman | gone now |
| 03:25.54 | abrotman | stupid bad evil keyboard |
| 03:26.02 | ke6isf | abrotman: Already informed quux. |
| 03:26.09 | dvs | abrotman: exercise it! ;-) |
| 03:26.12 | abrotman | who? |
| 03:26.13 | Supaplex | abrotman: fire the owner :) |
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| 03:26.25 | ke6isf | abrotman: quux is an ircop - /stats p over here on kornbluth. |
| 03:26.28 | abrotman | ah |
| 03:26.50 | abrotman | ke6isf: he's still on freenode |
| 03:27.13 | quittt | heyyy |
| 03:27.16 | ke6isf | abrotman: What, SUPYO? Where? |
| 03:27.22 | abrotman | ke6isf: go by hostmask |
| 03:27.37 | abrotman | ke6isf: /who *39-122-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net |
| 03:27.43 | Supaplex | where are the files that store the package installed states? |
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| 03:28.05 | usr13 | How is sound configuration handled? |
| 03:28.12 | rredd4 | when I open up partition magic 8, it tells me there is an error (partitions drive letter can't be identified). Then pm closes. How can i fix this with sarge? |
| 03:28.32 | ke6isf | abrotman: It's in quux's hands, thanks. |
| 03:28.36 | dvs | rredd4: Ask Norton. |
| 03:28.49 | p00ya | rredd4: open up parted instead? |
| 03:29.00 | Supaplex | ahha open("/var/lib/dpkg/status", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 |
| 03:29.24 | Stevie-O | I love strace |
| 03:29.39 | Supaplex | ditto :) |
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| 03:29.51 | rredd4 | p00ya: what is parted? |
| 03:29.56 | Supaplex | !parted |
| 03:29.59 | dpkg | GNU Parted is a program that allows you to create, destroy, resize, move and copy hard disk partitions. http://www.gnu.org/software/parted I used it to resize a 10G partition to 15G without losing my data. supports Apple and sparc partition tables. |
| 03:30.16 | Stevie-O | rredd4: What we say when someone leaves #debian and someone else asks "where did xyz go?" |
| 03:30.44 | Supaplex | !seen supyo |
| 03:30.45 | dpkg | supyo <n=YOURMOM@ppp-71-139-122-119.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 7m 8s ago, saying: 'DCC SEND 5497479795847809495497867967985'. |
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| 03:30.54 | Supaplex | oops :P |
| 03:31.03 | rredd4 | !seen Stevie-0 |
| 03:31.03 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'stevie-0', rredd4 |
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| 03:31.19 | ke6isf | !smack Supaplex |
| 03:31.20 | rredd4 | !seen Stevie-O |
| 03:31.20 | dpkg | stevie-o is currently on #debian. Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 1m 4s |
| 03:31.20 | weasel00 | ops dpkg using exploit =P lol |
| 03:31.28 | Supaplex | hahaha |
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| 03:32.04 | Stevie-O | roflmao |
| 03:32.24 | Supaplex | dpkg: bad bot, no cookie! :P |
| 03:32.58 | Stevie-O | That is SO getting bashed. |
| 03:33.09 | Supaplex | as in bash.org? :) |
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| 03:33.32 | rredd4 | Supaplex: ty I will apt get parted! |
| 03:33.38 | abrotman | can't do it as a qotd .. everytime it got triggered .. it woudl drop people |
| 03:34.03 | Supaplex | lol |
| 03:34.15 | rredd4 | p00ya: ty |
| 03:34.29 | Stevie-O | abrotman: perfect! |
| 03:34.38 | abrotman | Stevie-O: no .. you can't do it |
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| 03:35.07 | Stevie-O | says who? |
| 03:35.33 | abrotman | Stevie-O: you fucking idiot . everytime you call it .. people will get kicked. . how fucking stupid is that? |
| 03:35.53 | abrotman | come on .. use your brain :) |
| 03:36.05 | Stevie-O | every time I call what? |
| 03:36.11 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 03:36.11 | dpkg | hmm... qotd159 is <Brian_L> cd #debian-64 |
| 03:36.16 | Stevie-O | err |
| 03:36.20 | Stevie-O | dpkg reads off of bash? |
| 03:36.21 | abrotman | if you put it in there .. which is what i was implying .. it would kick people |
| 03:36.25 | abrotman | forget it |
| 03:36.37 | Stevie-O | Quote added as #624069. Thanks for participating. :-) |
| 03:36.38 | abrotman | i thought you knew what i was talking about .. you obviously don't :) |
| 03:37.05 | Stevie-O | Evidently not. What ARE you talking about? |
| 03:37.16 | abrotman | the bot has a ton of qotds |
| 03:37.17 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 03:37.17 | dpkg | <florian> how can i make sound faster and more stable? <greycat> sound? *faster*? <greycat> you want to hear chipmunks? |
| 03:37.19 | abrotman | see |
| 03:37.30 | Stevie-O | Because I'm scrolling back and I'm not seeing where anyone suggesting added it to dpkg's qotd database |
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| 03:37.36 | abrotman | i did |
| 03:37.43 | abrotman | <abrotman> can't do it as a qotd .. everytime it got triggered .. it woudl drop people |
| 03:37.47 | Stevie-O | no, you said that you couldn't do it |
| 03:37.51 | abrotman | right |
| 03:37.54 | abrotman | and then you said "why not" |
| 03:38.03 | abrotman | after i had explained it :) |
| 03:38.08 | Stevie-O | Because I talked about adding it to a quote site |
| 03:38.20 | rav | hello. KDE control center has a list of digital cameras, where can i find more and how do i add them? |
| 03:38.28 | Stevie-O | And you said "can't do it as a qotd" which I interpreted as not adding it to a quote site |
| 03:38.30 | Supaplex | http://armada.daxal.com/~supaplex/dpkg-causes-exploit.txt |
| 03:38.50 | weasel00 | lmao |
| 03:38.54 | abrotman | weasel00: too long |
| 03:38.55 | nickname00 | Is there a channel stupidity for this channel ? As a web site ;) |
| 03:39.08 | abrotman | nickname00: huh? |
| 03:39.26 | nickname00 | just thought it might be fun/interesting |
| 03:39.34 | Supaplex | nickname00 http://localhost/?q=nickname00 |
| 03:39.36 | abrotman | to do what? |
| 03:39.36 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 03:39.40 | abrotman | ask confusing questions ? |
| 03:39.53 | nickname00 | confusing/lame/....... |
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| 03:41.52 | sobersabre | what a crappy docs does AFS have!!! |
| 03:42.15 | abrotman | i just can't imagine |
| 03:42.59 | sobersabre | is there a _short_ and comprehensive documentation for this AFS ? |
| 03:42.59 | abrotman | sunday bloody sunday? |
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| 03:43.08 | nvz | dpkg, sing sunday |
| 03:43.08 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 03:43.11 | sobersabre | sunday morning... praise the dawning.... |
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| 03:43.31 | abrotman | dpkg: sing nvz |
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| 03:44.41 | Sonny | hi, I'm just installing debian, with kde... but after that fihished of download the packages I receive this output: "INIT: Id "1" respawing too fast: disabled for 5 minutes" wha is it? |
| 03:46.08 | Stevie-O | your getty on console 0 is going nuts |
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| 03:46.44 | Sonny | excuse me? |
| 03:47.01 | nvz | he said dont listen to me I am nuckin futz |
| 03:47.28 | harfooz | hi all. I have been tinkering with a fresh installation. I want to use one of the debian-centric gnome-splash screens, but I keep seeing the Gnome foot splash screen. |
| 03:47.33 | curt | busy Sunday? |
| 03:47.34 | harfooz | update-alternatives --config desktop-splash |
| 03:47.37 | Sonny | does somebody know what is iT? |
| 03:47.49 | harfooz | update-alternatives --config desktop-splash shows that a debian splash is selected. |
| 03:48.04 | harfooz | How can I get gnome to listen to the update-alternatives selection? |
| 03:48.16 | konfuzed | yeah ive always wanted to know how to correct that respawning too fast crap |
| 03:48.49 | Sonny | My only solution is to re install? |
| 03:49.14 | abrotman | ask google ? |
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| 03:49.26 | curt | Sonny rebooting returns the same thing each time? |
| 03:49.50 | nvz | harfooz: see if the image is configurable in Applications>Desktop Preferences>Advanced>Sessions |
| 03:50.00 | Sonny | curt, yep |
| 03:51.26 | CosmoDad | can I mount an NFS share as a user somehow? mount doesn't seem to accept {user|users|owner} options... |
| 03:52.08 | nvz | CosmoDad: the share would have to be in fstab with permission for users to mount it |
| 03:52.14 | bernardo | How do i know which port my printer is installed?? |
| 03:52.16 | harfooz | nvz, hey I think I may have found something in the Applications>System Tools>Configuration Editor! |
| 03:52.27 | harfooz | nvz...trying it out now. |
| 03:52.40 | CosmoDad | nvz: I have a line in there with "owner" option in the proper field |
| 03:52.48 | CosmoDad | nvz: yet it says I need to be root to mount it |
| 03:53.01 | nvz | harfooz: yeah gconf thats kind of like the wwindows registry editor.. only unlike the windows registry the gconf registry is far less complicated |
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| 03:53.15 | Sonny | "INIT: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes" any sugestion? |
| 03:53.26 | CosmoDad | nvz: I wonder if any of the options mentioned before truly apply to NFS as well |
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| 03:54.01 | nvz | CosmoDad: I've never heard of such an option |
| 03:54.12 | nvz | CosmoDad: the option is "user" as far as I know |
| 03:54.15 | bernardo | How do i know which port my printer is installed?? |
| 03:54.16 | nvz | CosmoDad: man mount |
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| 03:54.25 | nvz | CosmoDad: look at nfs options |
| 03:54.26 | xapaho | hi again -- still fighting a bit with apt configuration: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1998 |
| 03:54.27 | Supaplex | Sonny: check your inittab |
| 03:54.30 | curt | Sonny, I think you need to check your logs, there are quite a few possibilities. glibc, getty, bad chip etc etc |
| 03:54.40 | CosmoDad | nvz: neither does "user" work |
| 03:55.08 | thefirst | hi, where is the file that holds the kde-menu editing? |
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| 03:55.09 | CosmoDad | nvz: actually, it's among the generic options in the man-page but it also states it doesn't apply to all fs but doesn't list those that don't work |
| 03:56.08 | tengulre | anybody have english resume template, I need. |
| 03:56.27 | curt | xapaho, that's a little crazy, but aside you need to check/verify your sources |
| 03:56.38 | CosmoDad | nvz: n/m, I somehow got it to work where it didn't before |
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| 03:57.03 | konfuzed | !nvidia |
| 03:57.03 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
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| 03:57.22 | damoe | recommend me an FTP app server for debian please |
| 03:57.30 | konfuzed | !nforce |
| 03:57.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, nforce is a chipset made by nvidia. It is not (properly) supported in kernels older than 2.4.22. if you didn't know this and bought your hardware anyway, boo on you. |
| 03:57.44 | nvz | CosmoDad: if you read the nfs section of the manpage it will tell you nfs doesnt support a text string of options |
| 03:57.49 | konfuzed | !nforce3 |
| 03:58.28 | xapaho | curt: just been through the process of collecting the sources, checked everything I could, on some entries eg pureftpd i could not find official confirmation (no mention on their ftp) |
| 03:58.40 | thefirst | on one knows where the file that holds kde-menu editing is? |
| 03:59.01 | nvz | thefirst: kde has a grapical menu editor I am sure |
| 03:59.05 | konfuzed | !nforce |
| 03:59.05 | dpkg | i heard nforce is a chipset made by nvidia. It is not (properly) supported in kernels older than 2.4.22. if you didn't know this and bought your hardware anyway, boo on you. |
| 03:59.29 | nvz | !find kmenu |
| 03:59.45 | xapaho | damog: pureftpd's nice, webmin and gnome interfaces (gproftpd) -- vsftpd is said more secure, don't know it, found it a bit too rude :) |
| 03:59.47 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'kmenu' (6 of 58): (/usr/include/ion2/menu/mkmenu.h) in devel/ion2-dev ;; (/usr/include/ion3/mod_menu/mkmenu.h) in devel/ion3-dev ;; (/usr/lib/libkdeinit_kmenuedit.la) in devel/kdebase-dev ;; (/usr/include/TT/ttcheckmenuitem.h) in devel/libtw0-dev ;; (/usr/include/kde/smb4kbookmarkmenuwidget.h) in kde/smb4k ;; (/usr/lib/bitchx/help/8_Scripts/kickmenu.bz2) in net/bitchx. |
| 04:00.00 | thefirst | nvz, exactly, i am setting up a new installation, and i want to use the settings from the old one. |
| 04:00.10 | konfuzed | !nforce4 |
| 04:00.16 | Sonny | curt, Supaplex: google recommends me to add -L flag to all getty entries or or by changing getty to something like mingetty, what's better? |
| 04:00.20 | nvz | thefirst: well guess what. |
| 04:00.40 | thefirst | nvz, what? |
| 04:00.40 | nvz | thefirst: fortunatly for you the filesystem is organized |
| 04:00.42 | damog | xapaho: sorry? |
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| 04:01.00 | twobitsprite | what should I use to handle RAR files? |
| 04:01.05 | nvz | thefirst: global config files generally go in /etc and users are in their home dirs |
| 04:01.15 | xapaho | damog: which thread are u on pls ? :) |
| 04:01.16 | nvz | thefirst: these are some of the certain dirs you always backup in these cases |
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| 04:01.24 | deadcat | twobitsprite: unrar in non-free |
| 04:01.56 | twobitsprite | how do I add non-free to my sources.list? |
| 04:02.05 | abrotman | !tell twobitsprite about non-free |
| 04:02.20 | konfuzed | someone stole my identity |\ |
| 04:02.28 | damog | xapaho: The one you called me. |
| 04:02.28 | abrotman | being konfuzed ? |
| 04:02.29 | thefirst | nvz, too general, can u specifically tell me the file name? |
| 04:02.29 | curt | Sonny, I would try the -L |
| 04:02.29 | nvz | oh well |
| 04:02.35 | nvz | konfuzed: it could be worse |
| 04:02.44 | abrotman | konfuzed: /nick clueless? |
| 04:02.47 | curt | Sonny, did you check your logs? |
| 04:02.54 | konfuzed | hahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 04:03.00 | Sonny | curt: I did it.. it didnt work :( |
| 04:03.19 | Sonny | curt, what logs do you want me to check? |
| 04:03.41 | curt | Sonny, so go into /var/log and poke around |
| 04:03.48 | nvz | thefirst: in debian menus are automatically generated by the menu package for one thing so when you install again they will be rebuilt according to what you install. and for another if you are backing up you would just backup all configuration and personal files. |
| 04:03.59 | nvz | thefirst: beyond that i dont either know or care. |
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| 04:04.10 | Sonny | ok |
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| 04:04.23 | curt | nvz, copy that... |
| 04:04.24 | xapaho | damog: txs for point out, that was for damoe, sorry :) |
| 04:04.33 | konfuzed | laptop had 2300 viruses no it this afternoon |
| 04:04.45 | nvz | curt: 10-4 |
| 04:05.39 | nvz | whatever a virus is |
| 04:05.59 | thefirst | nvz, another bullshitter who talks a lot but know nothing. |
| 04:06.38 | nvz | thefirst: I know a lot. I know that as the administrator you and only you know where files are on your system |
| 04:07.01 | nvz | as far as debian goes I already told you that you need to backup all that if you are transferring, and that menus are auto generated |
| 04:07.11 | xapaho | abrotman: still around ? |
| 04:07.19 | abrotman | for about 10 minutes :) |
| 04:07.21 | thefirst | nvz, good, u r cool. do u know the name of the file we are discussing? |
| 04:07.28 | konfuzed | abrotman never leaves |
| 04:07.35 | abrotman | i do too! |
| 04:07.51 | curt | 11:30 is my limit |
| 04:08.00 | konfuzed | your brain has electromagnetically hybrided to the channel |
| 04:08.06 | thefirst | nvz, this is not a file a user creates, it is a system file. |
| 04:08.13 | konfuzed | it sucks in the log when you return |
| 04:08.57 | nvz | thefirst: debian creates menus on the fly based on whats installed on the system. you have a script which is a menu-method for KDE it is run by any package that has a kde menu entry upon installation |
| 04:09.03 | curt | thefirst, are you still talking about kde menus |
| 04:09.20 | nvz | thefirst: even if I told you where this file was it would be overwritten by update menus |
| 04:09.26 | thefirst | curt, yeh |
| 04:09.33 | xapaho | abrotman: u must be some sure value, then :-D -- can u have a last quick look at this please ? http://channels.debian.net/paste/1998 |
| 04:09.50 | curt | nvz, update-menus would be nice |
| 04:10.11 | abrotman | xapaho: two solutions .. don't use synaptic .. or comment out the lines for wine :) |
| 04:10.19 | abrotman | xapaho: personalyl i just use apt-get |
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| 04:10.44 | nvz | curt: he's reinstalling or transferring and installation or something and wants to copy some menu file. *shrug* baffles the hell out of me why anyone would worry about such a thing |
| 04:10.49 | xapaho | abrotman: stupid idea, could synaptic dislike comments at end of lines ? |
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| 04:11.04 | abrotman | xapaho: quite possibly |
| 04:11.16 | xapaho | abrotman: I'll have a go, ta |
| 04:12.13 | karsten | What's the scoop on the new testing security archives? |
| 04:12.35 | nvz | new testing security archives? |
| 04:12.50 | nvz | did you slip in too many words there? |
| 04:13.43 | thefirst | nvz, that file on the old system should have remained the same, because i have not run it sincc i started installating the new system. can u tell me the file name? |
| 04:13.44 | curt | karsten, /msg dpkg testing security |
| 04:13.55 | karsten | curt: thanks |
| 04:15.15 | curt | thefirst, update-menus gets runs almost everytime you apt-get anything so it changes all the time |
| 04:15.35 | konfuzed | khanfused, hey give me back my alias |
| 04:15.57 | karsten | konfuzed: Register it and you can force him off. |
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| 04:16.17 | konfuzed | mmmmmmmmmm |
| 04:16.35 | karsten | konfuzed: /msg nickerv help |
| 04:16.38 | thefirst | curt, update-menus sound like a script file. so the files it update would be mentioned in it, right? |
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| 04:17.35 | justnulling2 | i got "PREEMPT SMP" kernel error what is it? |
| 04:18.08 | grendal_prime | ok this is strange..ive installed this package on several other servers...libapache-mod-auth-pgsql. now when i have installed it in the past it insersts the module.lod and the module.conf files into the modules folder under the etc/apache directory...this time it didnt install the .conf file...any ideas as to why this might happen |
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| 04:18.33 | curt | thefirst, it's been a while since I looked into it, I doubt editing them manually will produce results, good luck |
| 04:18.36 | nvz | thefirst: you wouldnt understand I am sorry |
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| 04:18.52 | Acid`X | do.Ob |
| 04:19.11 | curt | no thanks I quit a long time ago |
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| 04:19.29 | grendal_prime | is there some other package that is required for the .conf to appear...or am i crazy in thinking this was all part of the same package to begin with? |
| 04:20.10 | nvz | thefirst: debian has a package called "menu" it maintains all menus on the whole system using a command called update-menus it is run each time a package installs a menu entry.. menu entries are for each app, then a script for each program which has a menu called a menu-method formats these menu entires on behalf of that program. there is no menu file in this structure unless the user overrides the system with one. it creates a dynamic menu fro |
| 04:20.26 | nvz | thefirst: they are in /usr/lib/menu/ |
| 04:21.28 | xapaho | abrotman: apt-get builds the list, but I just tried an upgrade and it says "there is no Package entry in your preference file" (?) |
| 04:21.45 | curt | grendal_prime, try dpkg -l libapache-mod-auth-pgsql and see where it puts it... |
| 04:21.47 | abrotman | xapaho: i don't use pinning .. i won't be much help |
| 04:22.04 | nvz | the dynamic files are not to be touched by the user as they are controlled by menu. if you want to override them you place your own menus in the specified location as according to /etc/menu/README |
| 04:22.56 | xapaho | abrotman: is my preference file not valid at all ?? |
| 04:23.22 | abrotman | xapaho: it looks ok .. but i can't say .. i don't use pinning |
| 04:23.27 | curt | grendal_prime, sorry :( that would be -L (uppercase) |
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| 04:23.55 | zeeble | heh |
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| 04:24.09 | curt | abrotman, I don't think you can pin * on different versions |
| 04:24.15 | weasel00 | i was just about to call, honestly grannie =) |
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| 04:24.32 | abrotman | curt: i don't think he's trying to |
| 04:24.47 | curt | abrotman, jumbled up mess! |
| 04:25.37 | unix_infidel | how do i install a gtk theme? |
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| 04:26.29 | nvz | In physics, a particle is an object, or body, with only a few degrees-of-freedom, including position, and perhaps orientation in space. |
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| 04:26.41 | nvz | according to wikipedia |
| 04:27.15 | weasel00 | oh man, now im reliving my physics in college again... |
| 04:27.23 | jayr168 | how do I auto start gDesklets at start-up in debian 3.1? |
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| 04:27.31 | Celeste | hi |
| 04:27.42 | jayr168 | how do I auto start gDesklets at start-up or in log-in in debian 3.1? |
| 04:27.43 | justnulling2 | got kernel error on sarge http://pastebin.ca/44619 anyone saw it before? |
| 04:28.09 | gravity | jayr168: I think /usr/share/doc/gdesklets has a readme explaining it |
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| 04:28.17 | Celeste | jayr168, did you get the real translucency work with the gDesklets? |
| 04:28.19 | gravity | jayr168: I haven't looked at it in years though, so I could be way off |
| 04:28.23 | jshriver | greetings |
| 04:28.23 | curt | !au |
| 04:28.24 | dpkg | from memory, au is gold. Australia, or a small island with mini-lines when it comes to internet |
| 04:28.39 | jshriver | What is the name of the program that takes a string frmo the command line and creates a small dialog window in X displaying it? |
| 04:28.47 | weasel00 | au is a gaming system in northern californa... |
| 04:28.51 | jayr168 | Celeste: yes it worked |
| 04:29.04 | jshriver | came across it years ago but forget |
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| 04:29.09 | grendal_prime | ya curt that just gives me the same list that synaptic and aptitude gives me...thanks for the suggestion though...basically I dont remember creating this file manualy on the other systems...and its odd that i would have created them in that folder..i was working under the assumption that the package itself creats them..but aparently not |
| 04:29.31 | Celeste | jayr168, also when you press SHIFT + F12 and you get them to the foreground? |
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| 04:29.54 | Celeste | jayr168, you do not get these black boxes around the desklets? |
| 04:29.58 | weasel00 | anyone used the phpbb2 pkg for deb? |
| 04:30.04 | curt | grendal_prime, mine shows /usr/lib/apache/1.3/500mod_auth_pgsql.info diffrent version maybe... |
| 04:30.18 | tblinux | join #debian-qa |
| 04:30.19 | grendal_prime | ya im using apache2 |
| 04:30.38 | grendal_prime | new sarge stable |
| 04:30.40 | unix_infidel | anyone, how would i go about installing a dir full of pixmaps as a gtk theme? |
| 04:30.42 | nvz | jayr168: you do _not_ want to start gdesklets on startup. |
| 04:30.57 | grendal_prime | you authenticate this way as well? |
| 04:31.07 | Celeste | How can I recursivly create MD5 Sums of a directory please and put them into a specified FILE.md5 ? |
| 04:31.43 | Guerin | Celeste: man find |
| 04:31.45 | grendal_prime | its nice when you have a series of web apps that need seperate authentications. |
| 04:31.46 | nvz | jayr168: if you are using gnome and you want it to start on _login_ look into adding it to your session Applications>Desktop Preferences>Advanced>Sessions |
| 04:31.54 | thefirst | nbz, sorry, i was afk for a while. thks for the explanation. u know a lot, that's for sure. |
| 04:32.04 | Guerin | Kyral: mbody cares about your personal hygiene |
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| 04:32.27 | Kyral | oops, not used to this client..didn't realize it announced |
| 04:33.06 | thefirst | is there are way to recover a package that has been removed, besides re-installing it? |
| 04:33.17 | jayr168 | im running KDE 3.3? |
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| 04:34.09 | thefirst | nvz, not nbz, 'b' and 'v' are next to each other. sorry, i was afk for a while. thks for the explanation. u know a lot, that's for sure. |
| 04:34.12 | curt | thefirst, if it wasn't purged reinstalling should still have your old options (for the most part) |
| 04:34.15 | nvz | jayr168: no idea how kde session management works |
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| 04:35.27 | thefirst | curt, that i know. because this particular package is not fr a debian repo. i am trying to avoid changing source.list and update again. |
| 04:35.38 | nvz | thefirst: if you have "menu" installed it takes care of all menus for you.. right now I only have gnome-panel and sawfish that are using menu-methods but each app I install will be added both places when update-menus is run. If you remove menu you are on your own for menu creation and maint. |
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| 04:36.28 | xapaho | wow! apparently, inserting standard # comments within the /etc/apt/preferences, does screw up its read by apt-get -- am I just dumm ? |
| 04:36.54 | thefirst | nvz, thks. got to go. bye. |
| 04:37.14 | xapaho | ( i'd rather to be dumm :-D, since I'm a newbie ) |
| 04:38.04 | nvz | I wish people like that could see the dust growing on my terminal to know how long I have been here |
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| 04:38.37 | nekostar | ~_~ |
| 04:38.38 | apt | _~ is, like, sour face |
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| 04:39.33 | xapaho | nvz: u mean people like me -- did I say anything wrong, hmm ? |
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| 04:40.40 | nvz | I mean the guy who was insulting me for not knowing where some kde menu file is, which is completly irrelevant |
| 04:40.53 | dargeer | hi - is anyone using the asus a8n-vm csm motherboard? |
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| 04:41.40 | nvz | if he knew how the menu system worked he would not only know where the files it creates are, but also that you cant fuck with them |
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| 04:42.25 | konfuzed | me too |
| 04:42.28 | nvz | heh |
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| 04:42.42 | konfuzed | blow som esmoke at the white owl |
| 04:43.04 | konfuzed | hugh to you two |
| 04:43.07 | nvz | chief chief chief chief |
| 04:43.11 | Brian_L | heh |
| 04:43.14 | nvz | :P |
| 04:43.34 | threat | cscc: relocation error: cscc: symbol __libc_stack_end, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference |
| 04:43.40 | nvz | I sense you understand but you dont understand |
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| 04:43.48 | nvz | see you chief, the white owl |
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| 04:44.40 | threat | any ideas? |
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| 04:48.16 | Supaplex | !any ideas |
| 04:48.16 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of condoms, a little K-Y jelly, and 42 three-legged oxen. And keep the cops off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 04:48.36 | konfuzed | !ouch |
| 04:48.36 | dpkg | [ouch] verbal pain, or owch or sjoerd's auch :) |
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| 04:49.32 | rredd4 | I am trying to umount hda9, sarge is on hda5 (ext3) and hda6 (swap). When i type umount it says that it is busy. Does sarge automount hda7, 8, 9 (ubuntu) ? |
| 04:49.50 | rredd4 | i am in sarge now |
| 04:50.05 | rredd4 | trying to erase hda 7-9 |
| 04:50.10 | Supaplex | !ubuntu |
| 04:50.10 | dpkg | well, ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian.. |
| 04:50.11 | samuel | anyone know of an email program that will just use imap folders? i dont want to store mails locally since ive got webmail through horde and imap on the same machine... i know i just dont need to use these folders, but i would like to know if there is an email program where you can turn local folders off |
| 04:50.28 | Supaplex | !debian ripoff |
| 04:50.31 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 04:50.49 | gpm | samuel: mutt has an imap only mode iirc |
| 04:51.27 | rredd4 | i am trying to get rid of Ubuntu.. but I can't unmount it to delete the partition |
| 04:52.08 | Supaplex | lsof will tell you what has it mounted |
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| 04:54.18 | samuel | gpm: thanks, but im looking for something like balsa? or kmail... a gui? i know i know its really a stupid question, but im trying to simplify things for ppl... |
| 04:54.54 | gpm | samuel: balsa doesn't let you go imap only? i bet thunderbird will...or maybe evolution (yuck) |
| 04:55.28 | TheBest | MySQL support exists: No |
| 04:55.38 | konfuzed | no |
| 04:55.49 | TheBest | i have mysql install 4.0.24_Debian-10sarge1-log |
| 04:55.58 | konfuzed | thats only the log file |
| 04:55.59 | samuel | gpm: nope, nope and nope... personally i prefer mutt and nano... but people used to windows think thats "old technology" |
| 04:56.31 | gpm | samuel: sorry man. i don't really use mua's anymore, not since i switched to gmail. |
| 04:56.34 | TheBest | konfuzed you tallk to me ? |
| 04:56.41 | konfuzed | yeah |
| 04:56.43 | samuel | gpm: thanks anyways |
| 04:57.06 | TheBest | so i dont have mysql install ? |
| 04:57.13 | TheBest | i login to mysql |
| 04:57.24 | TheBest | Reading history-file /root/.mysql_history |
| 04:57.24 | TheBest | Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer. |
| 04:57.24 | TheBest | mysql> |
| 04:57.27 | konfuzed | you asked about support |
| 05:00.20 | yawg | is there a package for a web browser that displays images? |
| 05:00.24 | TheBest | on debian how i install apache+mysql mod ? |
| 05:00.27 | yawg | on command line |
| 05:00.32 | nvz | yawg: links2 |
| 05:00.36 | konfuzed | apt-get |
| 05:00.37 | gpm | nvz: beat me to it |
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| 05:00.49 | nvz | gpm: I had it in the chamber |
| 05:00.53 | gpm | hehe |
| 05:00.54 | TheBest | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:00.58 | nvz | gpm: and my client has a big chamber |
| 05:01.00 | konfuzed | yeah |
| 05:01.08 | TheBest | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.10 | gpm | TheBest: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 |
| 05:01.12 | gpm | i think |
| 05:01.16 | gpm | for apache 1.3.x |
| 05:01.32 | gpm | and php-mysql |
| 05:01.37 | gpm | and something else probably |
| 05:01.38 | gpm | i dunno |
| 05:01.44 | nvz | gpm: if I type something and press the down arrow I can recall it and fire it off later |
| 05:01.53 | gpm | ooooooh |
| 05:01.53 | nvz | helps when holding multiple conversations |
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| 05:01.59 | gpm | nice |
| 05:02.01 | konfuzed | neatio |
| 05:02.12 | gpm | i don't irc enough to have a polished technique like that :( |
| 05:02.19 | nvz | sometimes I will have typed different responses and wont use them for hours |
| 05:02.38 | konfuzed | nvz, which irc client is that |
| 05:02.42 | nvz | irssi |
| 05:02.53 | gpm | xchat will do it too methinks |
| 05:03.03 | nvz | I got a large buffer |
| 05:03.14 | Supaplex | pepto for nvz |
| 05:03.17 | konfuzed | what the heck kind of a test is that nope |
| 05:03.25 | JohnMS | I'm getting a kernel panic when trying to boot my installed version of debian in Qemu using the qemu accelerator. How do I fix it? |
| 05:03.43 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: you're doing WHAT? |
| 05:03.45 | konfuzed | hmmm another test nope |
| 05:03.48 | nvz | JohnMS: I dont know. |
| 05:03.55 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: you have qemu set to use /dev/hda for the hard drive? |
| 05:03.58 | JohnMS | I used Qemu to install. |
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| 05:04.07 | Supaplex | JohnMS: #qemu, or don't use the accelerator |
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| 05:04.34 | TheBest | where i see my pkg`s what i install ? var/db ? |
| 05:04.35 | JohnMS | Sup: when I don't use the accelerator it works fine, just slow. |
| 05:05.08 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: i had no trouble with the accelerator... =/ |
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| 05:05.17 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: but i use vmware now anyway, so meh. YMMV. |
| 05:05.32 | TheBest | how i chk have mysql or php is installed ? |
| 05:05.44 | Supaplex | vmware is non-free, but qemu's accelerator is moving towards a less non-free now... |
| 05:05.45 | JohnMS | Sera: huh. Did you have an actual install or did you use files generated by Qemu? |
| 05:06.00 | nvz | vmware cost big money, but I did test that 5.0 or whatever it was they were offering recently |
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| 05:06.30 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: wait wait... "actual install? |
| 05:06.44 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: did you set your qemu hard drive to /dev/hda? |
| 05:07.02 | nvz | I dont have any problem testing software for free :P |
| 05:07.11 | JohnMS | Sera: Nope, I created a file large enough and had qemu mount like a partition. |
| 05:07.14 | TheBest | MySQL support exists: No |
| 05:07.20 | TheBest | what i need ? |
| 05:07.23 | SerajewelKS | nvz: i got vmware through my school's CS department |
| 05:07.45 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: so how does "actual install" differ from "files generated by qemu" |
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| 05:08.13 | nvz | SerajewelKS: I used to use it when I was a newbie on mandrake. I had every version of windows. wfw 3.11 through 2k running all at the same time on different consoles |
| 05:08.16 | Supaplex | there's some cheezy qemu+debian bootstrap script to do it. |
| 05:08.31 | SerajewelKS | nvz: it is amazing, really... i hope qemu is as fast as it someday |
| 05:08.31 | JohnMS | Sera: from the OS level, nothing. I just created files as partitions that's all. I'm not sure if that's what's causing the panic. |
| 05:08.38 | nvz | SerajewelKS: I was still half way supporting windows clients then so it helped to be able to see each version |
| 05:08.57 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: no, that's the right way to do it... if you were using /dev/hda i was going to spank you =) |
| 05:09.18 | JohnMS | Sera: Good to know. :) |
| 05:09.30 | SerajewelKS | nvz: *nods* my school's class registration system is IE only, so it helps out there. i used to use qemu for that, but qemu's snapshot mode is horribly broken |
| 05:10.15 | nvz | SerajewelKS: vmware isnt that bad you taint your kernel, but it performs well |
| 05:10.15 | JohnMS | Sera: It's just odd that without the accelerator, everything works perfectly, but with it nothing. |
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| 05:10.33 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: could be an accelerator bug |
| 05:10.53 | JohnMS | Sera: wish there were a way to tell for sure. LOL |
| 05:11.06 | SerajewelKS | nvz: yeah, though i'd prefer a free solution. qemu looks very promising, so i will probably wind up using it in the future. |
| 05:11.08 | JohnMS | Sera: I'm using it to teach myself Debian. :) |
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| 05:11.26 | JohnMS | Sera: Using Mandriva now. |
| 05:11.35 | nvz | SerajewelKS: only emu I've used lately is dosbox. |
| 05:11.45 | SerajewelKS | nvz: dosbox runs on linux? |
| 05:11.57 | nvz | !info dosbox sarge |
| 05:12.02 | dpkg | dosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 382 kB, Installed size: 1028 kB |
| 05:12.09 | SerajewelKS | nvz: i've used dosemu lately, but i didn't think dosbox ran on linux |
| 05:12.12 | SerajewelKS | nvz: hrm, go figure |
| 05:12.25 | JohnMS | Sara: I used Qemu to install and play around with Plan 9 without trouble. |
| 05:12.51 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: it could be the way the accelerator is presented to the guest OS... it might look like a different kind of processor, and debian has issues with it. |
| 05:13.05 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: specifying what the kernel panic is could also be helpful |
| 05:13.41 | SerajewelKS | nvz: does dosbox have better mouse emulation than dosemu? =) |
| 05:13.43 | JohnMS | Sera: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 05:13.58 | SerajewelKS | JohnMS: did you install it with the accelerator? |
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| 05:14.19 | nvz | SerajewelKS: IIRC dosemu required a dos.. dosbox just works :P so thats what I used |
| 05:14.32 | JohnMS | Sera: nope, I got the same error with the installer. |
| 05:14.39 | nvz | SerajewelKS: it grabs the mouse like vmware and seems to work for mw |
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| 05:14.49 | jayr168 | how do I run KWIN? |
| 05:15.15 | SerajewelKS | nvz: it requires freedos, yeah |
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| 05:15.23 | SerajewelKS | jayr168: normally you don't, startkde does |
| 05:15.39 | jayr168 | is there a gui for kwin? |
| 05:15.55 | SerajewelKS | wtf is kwin |
| 05:15.57 | nvz | heh |
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| 05:16.06 | nvz | !info kwin |
| 05:16.11 | dpkg | kwin: (the KDE window manager), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 997 kB, Installed size: 3042 kB |
| 05:16.17 | nvz | thats funny |
| 05:16.44 | SerajewelKS | jayr168: startkde |
| 05:17.32 | jayr168 | whats the diff between KDE and Kwin? |
| 05:17.43 | peterS | jayr168: kwin is just one component of KDE |
| 05:18.04 | weasel00 | how do i get dpkg to tell everything it knows on a topic. IE whats past the ...? |
| 05:18.10 | peterS | KDE is lots and lots of apps that work together |
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| 05:18.25 | jayr168 | im in KDE and I run startkde.. strange thins happen |
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| 05:18.31 | jayr168 | im in KDE and I run startkde.. strange things happen |
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| 05:18.51 | peterS | jayr168: yeah whoever told you that startkde was a "gui for kwin" was wrong. it's how KDE is started. |
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| 05:20.34 | JohnMS | Sera: Thanks for your help. |
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| 05:21.40 | Sonny | do u know how to block the screen in kde? |
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| 05:23.36 | SerajewelKS | nvz: hey, how do i get the audio to not lag? |
| 05:25.30 | weasel00 | what are some alternatives to running qmail or postfix on debian? |
| 05:25.40 | ice_1963 | what is better then k3b ? |
| 05:25.55 | zeeble | cdw |
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| 05:26.59 | basanta | i need to install java (javac, jar) , what package to I install |
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| 05:27.25 | nicolas__ | is 2.6.15 the latest kernel available in sid? |
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| 05:28.18 | Supaplex | that's a nonsense question for sid users. /m dpkg search or use kernel-package |
| 05:28.24 | nicolas__ | sorry |
| 05:29.21 | Supaplex | someday we'll make a sid certified test you can take :) |
| 05:29.30 | konfuzed | hey i just realized this laptop with a smashed screen would make an excellent wifi gate way router |
| 05:29.48 | nicolas__ | Supaplex: seems not to work |
| 05:29.49 | konfuzed | cause thats one thing that does not need a screen |
| 05:29.57 | Supaplex | !don't work |
| 05:29.58 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 05:30.13 | Supaplex | konfuzed: true :) |
| 05:30.30 | Jonnay | I am trying to make digest authentication work with apache 1.3 and debian stable, but apache is complaining that AuthDigestFile isn't a valid configuration directive. Do I need to install a package? Is there even an auth_digest package? Or am I on the wrong track? |
| 05:31.08 | konfuzed | alright then since its got all the parts I can make it a WiFi VoIP Gateway and finally get some range on my phone |
| 05:31.10 | nicolas__ | ok, then, /m dpkg search kernel-package replies nothing |
| 05:31.12 | Supaplex | Jonnay: search apache.org for the directive, and what module is needed to utilize it. |
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| 05:31.47 | Supaplex | nicolas__: kernel-package is the debian package. simply /m dpkg search |
| 05:31.51 | chopp | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.53 | konfuzed | hhhmmmm i gotta move that accounting crap off it first I guess |
| 05:31.58 | nicolas__ | chopp: thats what i did |
| 05:32.27 | nicolas__ | oh well |
| 05:32.35 | nicolas__ | i did apt-cache search before |
| 05:32.51 | Supaplex | !kp |
| 05:32.51 | dpkg | i heard kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 05:33.58 | konfuzed | yeah this'll work |
| 05:34.07 | nicolas__ | Supaplex: in fact, the problem is that my kernel provided by etch (2.6.15) generic or on my own, completely crashes when a remote ssh connection timeouts :) |
| 05:34.11 | konfuzed | ive been looking for just such a useful device |
| 05:34.25 | nicolas__ | im trying to find a way to build another kernel version |
| 05:34.28 | Supaplex | konfuzed: what's the specs? |
| 05:34.42 | nicolas__ | but it seems there is only 2.6.15 available |
| 05:35.30 | chopp | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:35.34 | chopp | wtf |
| 05:35.46 | nicolas__ | chopp: there is only 2.6.15 available |
| 05:36.00 | konfuzed | 266mhz 64MB (wait I think its 128) usb-100MB eth thinkpad 770 engenius 100 wifi adapter |
| 05:36.04 | nicolas__ | in the 2.6 series |
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| 05:36.25 | Supaplex | konfuzed: what's the mw for the wifi radio? |
| 05:36.33 | konfuzed | 100mw |
| 05:36.37 | Supaplex | nice :) |
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| 05:36.50 | xapaho | help please, a bit scared to have broken "everything": upgrading kernel image (2.6.8-2 to 2.6.15-1), everything went fine except major udev upgrade (0.056-3 to 0.085-1). Is that safe to reboot using the new kernel, and try upgrading again ? |
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| 05:36.58 | konfuzed | i just have to find it ;^( |
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| 05:37.31 | konfuzed | ive got another smc usb Extra or something with a missing cable |
| 05:37.39 | jayr168 | how do I change the GUI fonts in firefox? |
| 05:37.40 | Supaplex | konfuzed: I think I have a few 200mw ones. a engenius 802.11b, and a seperate 801.11abg. |
| 05:37.44 | konfuzed | ive tested it and works as the wifi node |
| 05:38.09 | konfuzed | hmmmm maybe it was 200mw cant remember |
| 05:38.23 | nicolas__ | is it safe to get a kernel source from ftp.kernel.org ? |
| 05:38.35 | agnidz | yes |
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| 05:38.47 | Supaplex | nicolas__: that's what kernel-package was created for. kernel.org sources -> .deb packages |
| 05:39.04 | nicolas__ | Supaplex: they only provide a buggy kernel |
| 05:39.12 | nicolas__ | thats the problem |
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| 05:39.25 | basanta | jayr168, edit/preferences/general/fonts & colours |
| 05:39.38 | xapaho | jayr168: firefox / edit / preferences -- read firefox web site about themes too |
| 05:39.48 | basanta | jayr168, or do you mean the ui fonts? |
| 05:39.54 | uok | i can use alsaconf to config my sound device but when i run alsamixer, i have: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 05:40.20 | uok | where's my problem? |
| 05:40.22 | Supaplex | nicolas__: sure, whatever. if it is, there's anotherway to handle it. Your description of a 'kernel panic' is still vague. at anyrate, you could regress a kernel release or two. |
| 05:40.30 | nicolas__ | Supaplex: unless you got a solution for my total crash on ssh timeout |
| 05:40.48 | Supaplex | nicolas__: not unless I can replicate it, and I'm not spending time to do so. |
| 05:40.54 | nicolas__ | you mean by getting sarges kernel ? |
| 05:41.17 | Supaplex | wow, this box is still using 2.4 :P |
| 05:42.10 | nicolas__ | Supaplex: only an ssh timeout should do the trick |
| 05:42.15 | Supaplex | nicolas__: if it's an issue with a release in sarge, from the kernel packaged there, check bts |
| 05:42.27 | Supaplex | nicolas__: explain |
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| 05:42.29 | nicolas__ | no, im using etch |
| 05:42.34 | Jonnay | Supaplex: Thanks for the tip. Cheers |
| 05:42.41 | Supaplex | Jonnay: np =) |
| 05:43.05 | Supaplex | nicolas__: etch uses bts to |
| 05:43.38 | nicolas__ | Supaplex: im using putty and mindterm from different places, sometimes i leave the terminal open for a reason or another, and the next thing i know, my foreing computer is crashed, with nothing to do except pressing the reset button |
| 05:43.48 | yawg | how do i get links2 to display the images? |
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| 05:44.36 | nvz | whats the proper term for what smoke does outside |
| 05:44.53 | jayr168 | i mean the UI fonts in firefox? |
| 05:44.56 | yawg | dissipate |
| 05:45.01 | yawg | nvz: |
| 05:45.06 | yawg | diffuse even |
| 05:45.36 | yawg | someone said that links2 would display the images |
| 05:45.44 | yawg | is there a setting somewhere? |
| 05:46.08 | nicolas__ | i guess you must have framebuffer enabled |
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| 05:46.28 | nicolas__ | links2 seems to depend on some libdirectfb |
| 05:46.38 | Supaplex | nicolas__: does the remote system post a kernel panic message, or does it just freeze up? |
| 05:46.52 | nicolas__ | Supaplex: just freeze on both side |
| 05:47.01 | uok | this is my sound device as reported by alsaconf:intel8x0 Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev │ |
| 05:47.02 | uok | " but after config, i cannnot run alsamixer, it says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 05:47.07 | nicolas__ | but only the terminal on the client side sorry |
| 05:47.31 | Supaplex | nicolas__: so if you create a new ssh session, you can login again? |
| 05:47.36 | nicolas__ | no |
| 05:47.44 | nicolas__ | connection is down like everything else |
| 05:47.50 | nicolas__ | and X display is freezed |
| 05:48.11 | Supaplex | do you have linux running on both client and server? |
| 05:48.17 | nicolas__ | no |
| 05:48.21 | Supaplex | are you running X over ssh remotely? |
| 05:48.27 | nicolas__ | always a windows xp on client side |
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| 05:48.35 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
| 05:48.37 | nicolas__ | no, only terminals |
| 05:48.37 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "3458937594387593845793487534985734897538945734987598437589347539845743895745359875983579845798435789475345" 0 0 0 |
| 05:48.40 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
| 05:48.42 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "3458937594387593845793487534985734897538945734987598437589347539845743895745359875983579845798435789475345" 0 0 0 |
| 05:48.45 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
| 05:48.47 | konfuzed | hm cant find that wifi adapter at the moment |
| 05:48.47 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "3458937594387593845793487534985734897538945734987598437589347539845743895745359875983579845798435789475345" 0 0 0 |
| 05:48.47 | Supaplex | !ops Pen|s expoits |
| 05:48.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Pen|s expoits |
| 05:48.49 | Brian_L | stfu |
| 05:48.50 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
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| 05:48.52 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "3458937594387593845793487534985734897538945734987598437589347539845743895745359875983579845798435789475345" 0 0 0 |
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| 05:48.56 | Brian_L | dumbass |
| 05:48.59 | tobehz | ;] |
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| 05:49.13 | Brian_L | we dont use norton here |
| 05:49.15 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
| 05:49.16 | tobehz | heh |
| 05:49.17 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "3458937594387593845793487534985734897538945734987598437589347539845743895745359875983579845798435789475345" 0 0 0 |
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| 05:49.20 | tobehz | gogo clamav |
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| 05:49.22 | zinx | !ops Pen|s is an idiot |
| 05:49.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Pen|s is an idiot |
| 05:49.23 | Brian_L | heh |
| 05:49.25 | deadcat | !ops dcc send abuse |
| 05:49.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: dcc send abuse |
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| 05:49.29 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "3458937594387593845793487534985734897538945734987598437589347539845743895745359875983579845798435789475345" 0 0 0 |
| 05:49.32 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
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| 05:49.34 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
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| 05:49.36 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
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| 05:49.40 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
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| 05:49.41 | Brian_L | please done penis |
| 05:49.42 | Pen|s | DCC SEND "3458937594387593845793487534985734897538945734987598437589347539845743895745359875983579845798435789475345" 0 0 0 |
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| 05:49.46 | joelperez | startkeylogger |
| 05:49.47 | joelperez | DCC SEND ". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . " 0 0 0 |
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| 05:49.52 | Brian_L | where al dommed |
| 05:49.56 | tobehz | raped |
| 05:50.02 | Brian_L | damn |
| 05:50.06 | Brian_L | busted for using MS |
| 05:50.10 | Brian_L | lol |
| 05:50.12 | nicolas__ | Supaplex: really weird dont you think |
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| 05:50.16 | deadcat | crazy.. who figured this crap out anyway? |
| 05:50.16 | zinx | the dcc send thing isn't MS |
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| 05:50.20 | Brian_L | this isnt really funny |
| 05:50.22 | Brian_L | kick this fool |
| 05:50.32 | vdh | linksys :( |
| 05:50.33 | zinx | it's some other really poor operating system commonly used on consumer grade routers |
| 05:50.38 | zinx | (i.e., not people's actual machines) |
| 05:50.39 | uok | it's about time. kick him out. |
| 05:50.42 | Brian_L | really? |
| 05:50.45 | tobehz | yes |
| 05:50.47 | nicolas__ | Supaplex: this is since i upgraded from sarge to etch, and also from 2.6.8 to 2.6.15 |
| 05:50.48 | weasel00 | whois pen|s |
| 05:50.48 | zinx | yeah, broken NAT |
| 05:50.55 | jayr168 | how to change font size of the firefox ui? |
| 05:50.56 | weasel00 | shit missed the / |
| 05:50.58 | jayr168 | how to change font size of the firefox ui? |
| 05:51.14 | deadcat | jayr168: screenshot firefox then show us which part you want to change. |
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| 05:51.28 | xapaho | jayr168: we already answered, read the log earlier (edit/prefs) |
| 05:51.56 | jayr168 | where can I find edit prefs? |
| 05:52.02 | jayr168 | where can I find edit/prefs? |
| 05:52.03 | deadcat | jayr168: are you trolling? |
| 05:52.11 | xapaho | jayr168: menu edit, preferences, then global tab |
| 05:52.12 | jayr168 | whats trolling? |
| 05:52.16 | vdh | lol |
| 05:52.19 | deadcat | yes he is |
| 05:52.37 | vdh | troll is jay :) |
| 05:52.55 | zinx | once |
| 05:53.01 | zinx | please don't break my brain :( |
| 05:53.02 | deadcat | xapaho: hes before newbie |
| 05:53.30 | xapaho | zinx: ta, typing too fast ;) |
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| 05:54.07 | xapaho | pls anyone, can you give me an advice about my kernel-image upgrade issue (udev) ? |
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| 05:54.25 | TheBest | how can i see wich pkg i have instaled ? |
| 05:54.27 | jayr168 | deadcat: where can I upload my screenshot? |
| 05:54.36 | xapaho | (must I fix it or should I reboot) |
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| 05:55.35 | TheBest | -bash: php: command not found |
| 05:55.36 | deadcat | jayr168: lynucs.org |
| 05:55.47 | TheBest | but i install " apt-get install php4" |
| 05:55.56 | deadcat | TheBest: dpkg --get-selections |
| 05:55.56 | b0g | does anyone have and tips for net installing debian into a system that has linux already installed and that cannot boot from the cdrom? |
| 05:56.01 | TheBest | whay server dont know i install php |
| 05:56.08 | deadcat | TheBest: you want the php4-cli or php5-cli |
| 05:56.24 | TheBest | php4 install |
| 05:56.24 | TheBest | php4-common install |
| 05:56.24 | TheBest | php4-gd install |
| 05:56.24 | TheBest | php4-mysql install |
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| 05:56.36 | TheBest | ups |
| 05:56.42 | TheBest | sorry to much paste |
| 05:56.43 | deadcat | TheBest: install php4-cli |
| 05:56.49 | TheBest | ok thanks |
| 05:57.08 | threat | any ideas? |
| 05:57.12 | sussudio | !any ideas |
| 05:57.12 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of rutabagas, a little sauerkraut, and 5 or 6 three-legged oxen. And keep the cops off my back for the next few hours! |
| 05:57.13 | nicolas__ | is 2.6.14 good ? ;) |
| 05:57.44 | sussudio | threat: are you a bot? |
| 05:57.45 | xapaho | nicolas__: spice it |
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| 05:57.54 | nicolas__ | xapaho: haha |
| 05:58.18 | b0g | i want any ideas too |
| 05:58.40 | threat | sussudio, "are you a bot?" means nothing to me, type in @help for a full list of commands |
| 05:58.46 | threat | :P |
| 05:59.29 | sussudio | threat: the only thing you've said in the last 2 hours in here was "any ideas" twice. |
| 06:00.36 | threat | sussudio, I didn't want to repeat :) |
| 06:00.39 | jayr168 | deadcat: http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=1405122930440bcfad23de6&p=screen |
| 06:00.45 | threat | sussudio, should I paste in my original question? |
| 06:00.46 | jayr168 | please view it |
| 06:01.15 | deadcat | jayr168: looks fine here. |
| 06:01.17 | jayr168 | i want to change the font size of my main menu and bookmarks toolbar.. |
| 06:01.34 | deadcat | jayr168: oh. |
| 06:01.51 | b0g | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en |
| 06:02.07 | deadcat | add this --> gtk-font-name = "scan 9" <-- to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and restart ff |
| 06:02.10 | jayr168 | is that possible? |
| 06:02.29 | jayr168 | it doesnt seem to follow the setting I set in KDE's control center? |
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| 06:02.55 | Brian_L | mpg123 Buena |
| 06:02.58 | Brian_L | grrr |
| 06:03.04 | sussudio | !lose Brian_L |
| 06:03.04 | dpkg | Brian_L: You Lose. |
| 06:03.16 | deadcat | jayr168: because thats a gtk2 app |
| 06:03.18 | Brian_L | !win Brian_L |
| 06:03.18 | dpkg | Congratulations, Brian_L! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 06:03.24 | Brian_L | yay! |
| 06:03.46 | jayr168 | what do you mean by a gtk2 app? |
| 06:04.07 | threat | sussudio, I am having problems with the pnet package, in stable and testing. cscc does not work I get this error --> c: relocation error: cscc: symbol __libc_stack_end, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference |
| 06:04.43 | threat | c: should be cscc: (it cut off :)) |
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| 06:05.02 | novem | hello all, is there a way to apt-get install qmail and all of its dependencies? |
| 06:05.05 | Edgardoweb | www.entrecopas.com |
| 06:05.24 | deadcat | jayr168: not all linux softwares starts with a K |
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| 06:05.51 | unix_infidel | lol. |
| 06:05.52 | jayr168 | so I cant modify its setting? |
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| 06:06.04 | threat | sussudio, any ideas? :) |
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| 06:06.40 | Pur1ty | what is eggdrop default install directory? |
| 06:06.40 | SerajewelKS | !any ideas |
| 06:06.41 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of condoms, a little K-Y jelly, and 42 three-legged dairy cows. And keep the cops off my back for the next few hours! |
| 06:06.52 | jayr168 | how do I install ALSA drivers? |
| 06:07.00 | SerajewelKS | !alsa for morons |
| 06:07.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, alsa for morons is 1) remove all sound-related kernel modules 2) run alsaconf 3) disable all sound servers 4) hope, or echo -e "snd-your-module" >> /etc/modules && reboot |
| 06:07.34 | jayr168 | how do I remove sound-related kernel modules? |
| 06:07.54 | SerajewelKS | *plonk* |
| 06:08.09 | deadcat | jayr168: modprobe -l |grep snd_ | xargs sudo rm -rf |
| 06:08.20 | Pur1ty | what is eggdrop default install directory? |
| 06:08.31 | deadcat | Pur1ty: #eggdrop |
| 06:08.35 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: be nice now... |
| 06:08.36 | jayr168 | modprobe -l |grep snd_ | xargs sudo rm -rf --- Nothin happend |
| 06:08.44 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: i was answering his question |
| 06:09.04 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: what would you call the act of 'modprobe -r' then? |
| 06:09.17 | deadcat | SerajewelKS: unloading? |
| 06:09.30 | SerajewelKS | deadcat: no. it's 'rmmod' not 'unloadmod' |
| 06:09.55 | jayr168 | deadcat: I run alsaconf it says no supported sound card found |
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| 06:10.41 | Azar | I am having hard time trying to access http://www.theinquirer.net and http://www.dailytech.com is it my connection maybe? |
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| 06:11.21 | Tallu | Azar: not just you. |
| 06:11.49 | jayr168 | deadcat: I run alsaconf it says no supported sound card found |
| 06:11.49 | Azar | thank you Tallu |
| 06:11.57 | nicolas__ | do i need the volontary preempt or the low-latency preempt to enhance performance on games and desktop reactivity ? |
| 06:12.06 | jayr168 | my sound card is C-media CMI9880L |
| 06:12.08 | Tallu | Azar: no problem mate |
| 06:12.09 | nicolas__ | the help isnt really clear |
| 06:12.24 | nicolas__ | what is a low-latency desktop |
| 06:12.42 | nicolas__ | im googling and just cant find any clear definition |
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| 06:14.15 | jayr168 | whats ispci? |
| 06:14.22 | jayr168 | !dpkg ispci |
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| 06:14.41 | unix_infidel | nicolas__: you trying to setup ardour? |
| 06:14.56 | Azar | hah: Euronode released a web site which allows users to build pre-configured Debian GNU/Linux servers, tailor-made for their exact needs. |
| 06:15.07 | nicolas__ | unix_infidel: no, never heard about ardour |
| 06:15.17 | unix_infidel | nicolas__: lol, a digital audio workstation? |
| 06:15.34 | unix_infidel | low latency is usually associated with audio production. |
| 06:16.01 | novem | can anyone tell me if there is an easy way to apt-get install qmail and all of its dependencies? |
| 06:16.11 | yawg | hm, just to make sure i wasn't misunderstood, is links2 supposed to render the image to be displayed in the terminal window? |
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| 06:17.10 | Azar | bah I have a bad feeling about that site |
| 06:17.20 | unix_infidel | yawg: i suppose its the kind of mode you run it in. |
| 06:17.43 | wq | hello every |
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| 06:18.48 | nicolas__ | is it essential in these days to have ipv6 enabled? |
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| 06:19.13 | nicolas__ | unix_infidel: ok, thanks |
| 06:19.20 | wq | does anyone know how to make the linux as a router? thanks |
| 06:19.42 | streuner | wq: apt-get install ipmasq |
| 06:19.43 | unix_infidel | nicolas__: man links2 :P |
| 06:19.44 | unix_infidel | :) |
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| 06:20.01 | nicolas__ | unix_infidel: this is your answer for ipv6? |
| 06:20.12 | wq | ipmasq can do it ? |
| 06:20.23 | streuner | wq: sure |
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| 06:20.55 | neuterspay | What's up guys. gAIM actually works for IRC. Nice. |
| 06:21.01 | streuner | wq: what kind of i-net connection do you have? |
| 06:21.03 | wq | ok, i will try. thank you |
| 06:21.30 | wq | ethernet |
| 06:21.34 | unix_infidel | wow, links2 is NICE! |
| 06:22.17 | streuner | wq: hm, and how are you connected to your Internet-Service-Provider (ISP), DSL? |
| 06:22.50 | neuterspay | Anybody know how I can get Konqueror to go to www.google.com on opening? |
| 06:23.18 | wq | i am in a school ,so the school's server is the dns |
| 06:23.19 | neuterspay | It's my homepage and will load when I click the home button. |
| 06:23.25 | neuterspay | But not on opening of konq |
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| 06:23.45 | streuner | wq: well, why do think you need a router then? |
| 06:24.18 | wq | streuner: hehe ,just try ,i am learning now |
| 06:25.07 | streuner | wq: there are lots of floppy-based distros out there, especially for routers |
| 06:25.29 | unix_infidel | routers are so cheap though. |
| 06:25.32 | unix_infidel | why MAKE one. |
| 06:25.55 | streuner | wq: no need to install something, but if you wanna learn just install debian |
| 06:25.56 | wq | linux is free |
| 06:26.19 | streuner | yes |
| 06:26.24 | wq | yeah ,i am using debian, |
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| 06:28.18 | osiris_ | is it possible to get a hold of older kernel-images to install? like 2.6.121 image ;) |
| 06:28.28 | osiris_ | 2.6.12-1 |
| 06:28.53 | streuner | wq: well, install ipmasq, it makes your debian box to a router, install bind (DNS), squid (proxy), dhcp-server (DHCP) |
| 06:28.56 | Supaplex | kernel.org+kernel-package |
| 06:29.26 | bkankur | in kde i cannot able to get the GUI for Network setting. as my friend getting.. "network-admin" so should i need to install particular package for that. |
| 06:29.30 | osiris_ | well I dont wanna make a custom kernel ;) |
| 06:29.41 | osiris_ | usually ends up in kernel-panic anyways |
| 06:30.06 | nicolas__ | does inotify is used by many common programs and is nessecary ? |
| 06:30.18 | unix_infidel | wtf, the link2 version doesnt have ssl support? |
| 06:30.29 | nicolas__ | unix_infidel: none of them |
| 06:30.47 | wq | streuner: ok ,i will try,thank you very much ,you are a kind guy |
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| 06:31.52 | unix_infidel | nicolas__: ? |
| 06:31.56 | streuner | wq: you're welcome. |
| 06:32.02 | zeeble | links-ssl |
| 06:32.25 | unix_infidel | zeeble: thanks. |
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| 06:33.25 | delmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.30 | SerajewelKS | unix_infidel: links-ssl is a dummy package for elinks, might as well install elinks directly |
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| 06:33.39 | unix_infidel | SerajewelKS: i have link2 installed. |
| 06:33.43 | unix_infidel | but it wont use ssl correctly. |
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| 06:33.54 | SerajewelKS | unix_infidel: links2 is not elinks |
| 06:34.02 | unix_infidel | right. |
| 06:34.02 | jm_ | delmar: since when is that a Linux error? |
| 06:34.13 | wq | streuner: can i make friends with you? |
| 06:34.15 | SerajewelKS | unix_infidel: apt-get remove links2; apt-get install elinks |
| 06:34.34 | unix_infidel | SerajewelKS: nono, elinks and links works. |
| 06:34.34 | delmar | jm_, true. damn this gives me the shits. |
| 06:34.40 | unix_infidel | with ssl that is. |
| 06:34.46 | unix_infidel | links2 doesnt. |
| 06:34.47 | jm_ | delmar: sounds like a BIOS error to me |
| 06:34.47 | SerajewelKS | unix_infidel: right. so use them. |
| 06:34.58 | SerajewelKS | unix_infidel: that's because links2 doesn't support ssl |
| 06:35.04 | SerajewelKS | unix_infidel: so use something else |
| 06:35.11 | delmar | jm_, ok its a sata1 drive, does it matter that its a sata2 channel and that sata2 mode is enabled or no? |
| 06:35.18 | delmar | jm_ i might try that actually. |
| 06:35.27 | jm_ | delmar: does BIOS detect the disk? |
| 06:35.31 | unix_infidel | that sucks. |
| 06:35.34 | delmar | jm_, sure does. |
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| 06:35.47 | delmar | jm_ and it was working fine on the other mobo 30mins ago |
| 06:35.53 | jm_ | delmar: does it start loading the MBR? do you have bootable flag set for one of the partitions? |
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| 06:36.04 | streuner | wq: my friends are here, if you stay here longer, let us see what happens ;-) |
| 06:36.12 | zeeble | hehe |
| 06:36.14 | SerajewelKS | unix_infidel: yeah it sucks that you actually have to upgrade software to get new features |
| 06:36.24 | wq | yeah |
| 06:36.24 | kevinv | Hello, how would I split a huge debian repo created via apt-move on many 700MB CDs? |
| 06:36.29 | unix_infidel | SerajewelKS: no it sucks that links2 doesnt support ssl :P |
| 06:36.47 | SerajewelKS | unix_infidel: so fucking use elinks for crying out loud. why is that so hard? |
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| 06:37.01 | delmar | jm_, on the other system it was booting up just fine.... so one would expect that the partition flags are ok... no its not getting to the lilo stage at all.. so mbr isnt kicking in... ill mess with the sata1/2 settings and see. |
| 06:37.04 | unix_infidel | links2 -g :) |
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| 06:37.29 | SerajewelKS | unix_infidel: which does what? |
| 06:37.30 | jm_ | delmar: verify bootable flag again, it might be it's not set |
| 06:37.36 | delmar | jm_, scratch that... cant turn sata2 off. |
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| 06:37.53 | unix_infidel | SerajewelKS: -g Run Links2 in graphics mode. If not given, Links2 will run |
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| 06:38.00 | unix_infidel | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.13 | delmar | jm_, would be strange if moving it from one sata to another wrecked the mbr and boot flag. about to boot on a rescue. |
| 06:38.16 | SerajewelKS | unix_infidel: xterm -e elinks |
| 06:38.35 | jm_ | delmar: no, it's not about it being lost in the process of moving the disk, it might be it was never set |
| 06:38.43 | unix_infidel | nvm. |
| 06:38.48 | kevinv | I apt-move my cache all the time and have my mostly used packages w/ updates for them. How would I do a backup on many 700MB CDs in an easy form for re-installation w/o using the internet? |
| 06:38.51 | SerajewelKS | unix_infidel: if you want a GUI browser, install one. firefox, mozilla, konqueror, naultilus, just pick one. |
| 06:38.55 | delmar | jm_, then i would have had boot issues on the other system too then |
| 06:39.04 | delmar | jm_, but I had no trouble at all. |
| 06:39.10 | jm_ | delmar: or not, depending on which BIOS it uses |
| 06:40.52 | delmar | jm_, all the same deal really... there is not alot of difference between the asis p5nd2-sli and the p5nd32-sli |
| 06:41.07 | delmar | jm_, much the same bios, controlers/chipsets etc. |
| 06:41.19 | jayr168 | im installing OSS.. |
| 06:41.26 | jayr168 | i get a Couldn't dlopen /home/jayr168/tmp/./ui_curses.so? |
| 06:41.34 | jayr168 | how to workaround this? |
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| 06:41.45 | buu | Ahah, right channel. |
| 06:42.07 | jm_ | delmar: it's not the same chipset if one is SATA II, and the other isn't :) (and btw, there's no SATA II, it's marketing bluff) |
| 06:42.38 | jayr168 | hello guys? |
| 06:42.56 | delmar | jm_, right. its not sata2... its sata @ 3Gb as opposed to half that. |
| 06:43.02 | jm_ | delmar: right |
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| 06:43.16 | delmar | jm_, yeah they were both sata 3gb I believe.. both boards. |
| 06:43.25 | jayr168 | i get a Couldn't dlopen /home/jayr168/tmp/./ui_curses.so? |
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| 06:44.28 | jm_ | delmar: if they're really that similar then it should just work, but anyway, even if they were different, this is pretty weird |
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| 06:44.47 | Agentj87 | hi |
| 06:44.50 | elephantMan | How to i know a file charset ? |
| 06:44.54 | Agentj87 | need help, on makin sfv of a folder |
| 06:44.59 | elephantMan | I don't understand a thing with those charset thing |
| 06:45.13 | jm_ | Agentj87: I hope you mean a directory |
| 06:45.24 | unix_infidel | what's this exploit that lilo just pointed out |
| 06:45.30 | elephantMan | suddenly all my mysql db accents went down |
| 06:45.37 | elephantMan | pfffu |
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| 06:46.09 | Agentj87 | yes |
| 06:46.13 | Agentj87 | sorry jm: |
| 06:46.15 | Tallu | unix_infidel: it has to do with SPI, are you affected? If you are, just connect to the other port |
| 06:46.27 | jm_ | Agentj87: apt-cache show cfv cksfv |
| 06:46.35 | unix_infidel | Tallu: i dont know?> |
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| 06:47.06 | Tallu | unix_infidel: do you have one of them routers from linksys or netgear then? |
| 06:47.17 | unix_infidel | yes. |
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| 06:47.31 | unix_infidel | but what is the exploit? |
| 06:47.37 | madona | \join #kde |
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| 06:48.02 | Tallu | Well if someone says a certain thing you'll just drop from irc.. then you'll know you're affected and can use the different port. :p |
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| 06:49.35 | Agentj87 | jm_ i did what u said but i dont see how to make a sfv file of my directory |
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| 06:49.46 | gpm | madona: /join #kde ? |
| 06:49.51 | jm_ | Agentj87: man cfv |
| 06:50.35 | Agentj87 | k |
| 06:51.37 | delmar | jm_, wierd. just booted off the ubuntu boot disk i had here, and mounted the volume ok. ill see if i can remember how to re-run lilo and make it do the mbr thing |
| 06:52.17 | delmar | maybe its not lilo.. sumthin else... |
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| 06:52.51 | dondelelcaro | !tell Edgardoweb -about away |
| 06:53.02 | jm_ | delmar: this sounds like it doesn't even load lilo |
| 06:53.52 | delmar | jm_, im new to ubuntu.. i shoulda used a debian boot cd but i dont have one handy.... usually id just chroot /mntpoint lilo or something... i think |
| 06:54.03 | delmar | been ages since ive had to rescue a drive and redo the mbr thing. |
| 06:54.18 | delmar | been lucky enuf not to have this kinda issue i guess. |
| 06:54.25 | jm_ | delmar: yes, that should do it |
| 06:55.55 | Agentj87 | jm_ i read the man cfv , im a bit confused i wanna amke sfv for files in dir, so am i looking to do, cfv -C -tcsv |
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| 06:56.13 | jm_ | Agentj87: yes |
| 06:56.16 | elephantMan | How can i tell which character set a file is using ? |
| 06:56.39 | dondelelcaro | elephantMan: if it doesn't tell you, you can guess... |
| 06:56.39 | elephantMan | I don't know why but my db's accents went down |
| 06:56.54 | Agentj87 | jm_ last thing, do i need to set the name for it or will it take the main dir name |
| 06:57.05 | dondelelcaro | most sane editors should be abel to figure it out. |
| 06:57.19 | jm_ | Agentj87: the latter, but you can specify filename if you want |
| 06:57.37 | lilo | you know, you can always email when someone is issuing router exploits on channel, rather than just removing them from *this* channel |
| 06:57.41 | Agentj87 | jm_ ok immma let it name itself thanks alot |
| 06:57.47 | lilo | oh well 8) |
| 06:58.16 | dondelelcaro | lilo: email takes time... if you guys have a network pager set up, that would be more useful... |
| 06:58.35 | elephantMan | How is it possible that all my databases records replace accents with strange characters ? |
| 06:58.37 | lilo | dondelelcaro: see my /away message |
| 06:58.37 | dondelelcaro | lilo: plus, you can just set up a hilight rule if it matters... |
| 06:58.49 | lilo | dondelelcaro: it clearly matters, but the way to get hold of me is the email pager |
| 06:58.53 | elephantMan | i am so fed up with this encoding thing |
| 06:58.55 | lilo | dondelelcaro: the one in my /away message ;) |
| 06:58.57 | Agentj87 | Jm_; is the csv like a sfv? |
| 06:59.05 | dondelelcaro | lilo: right, but that requires actually sending you an e-mail. |
| 06:59.14 | elephantMan | always have problems with that |
| 06:59.21 | lilo | ah |
| 06:59.25 | dondelelcaro | whereas we've usually dealt with the problem here, and moved on |
| 06:59.26 | Agentj87 | jm_ is the csv like a sfv? |
| 06:59.29 | lilo | well, fwiw, the response time is about a minute |
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| 06:59.42 | jm_ | Agentj87: you mean cfv? |
| 06:59.46 | lilo | (actually, I think the record is about 15 seconds) |
| 06:59.56 | dondelelcaro | lilo: sure, but it takes a moment to compose one, instead of just sending a /msg to a ircop |
| 07:00.23 | lilo | dondelelcaro: add an alias to your irc client ;) |
| 07:00.44 | Agentj87 | jm_ its makin this file, Rip.XviD.csv |
| 07:00.44 | Supaplex | mail lilo@pager.com < /dev/urandom |
| 07:00.47 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 07:00.55 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 07:00.57 | dondelelcaro | lilo: I could, but that would require work... it's also hard to know what you guys actually are concerned about |
| 07:01.08 | jm_ | what exaclt is the SPI thing mentioned in your notice? |
| 07:01.29 | lilo | dondelelcaro: this is the second time it's taken a lot longer to get rid of one of those people because I didn't get a page from you guys, and the second time I've come in here to mention it ;) |
| 07:01.35 | dondelelcaro | (which is the other reason why I didn't bother to tell anyone about it, 'cause I assumed that people were aware of it) |
| 07:01.49 | lilo | dondelelcaro: if you don't spend much time on freenode, maybe it's not worth setting up the pager alias |
| 07:02.16 | Agentj87 | jm_ thisis command correct . cfv -C -tcsv |
| 07:02.29 | jm_ | Agentj87: man page explains it and has examples |
| 07:02.34 | Agentj87 | maybe is csv till its completed |
| 07:02.45 | Agentj87 | yea |
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| 07:02.54 | Agentj87 | thats the example i saw that best fits |
| 07:03.12 | jm_ | yeah, if you want to create sfv file, it also supports pletora of other formats |
| 07:03.16 | lilo | dondelelcaro: if it's a boilerplate page, just mention to have me contact you by nick |
| 07:03.38 | weasel00 | everytime i have shot lilo a msg regarding someone they're on top of it... *hugs lilo |
| 07:04.00 | lilo | jm_: there's an exploit written against a conceptual bug in some Netgear and Linksys routers |
| 07:04.16 | jm_ | lilo: yeah I know that, but was wondering what SPI means/does |
| 07:04.19 | Agentj87 | ok |
| 07:04.22 | lilo | jm_: if stateful packet inspection is turned on, someone can kill your IRC connection by sending a string that some trojan sends |
| 07:04.28 | Agentj87 | jm_ so what im doing is correct |
| 07:04.30 | streuner | lilo: do you have further infos about (URL)? |
| 07:04.32 | jm_ | lilo: ahh that SPI :) |
| 07:04.36 | jm_ | Agentj87: yes |
| 07:04.36 | lilo | jm_: yep |
| 07:04.47 | Agentj87 | ok great thanks jm_ |
| 07:04.51 | lilo | jm_: hadn't thought about the other SPI 8) |
| 07:04.57 | lilo | jm_: whoops 8) |
| 07:05.16 | dondelelcaro | lilo: well, we'll try; but there are a few of us, and while some of us are here quite a bit, we're not always keeping track of the issues that are affecting the network itself. If it's a big deal, feel free to /msg me, and I'll make sure the other ops are aware of it. |
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| 07:05.53 | Supaplex | !snapshots |
| 07:05.54 | dpkg | methinks debian snapshot is http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
| 07:05.58 | Supaplex | good bot |
| 07:06.01 | lilo | dondelelcaro: everyone who uses freenode should understand the whole 'courtesy' thing, so we're either talking to or tempbanning people who issue that exploit |
| 07:06.09 | lilo | dondelelcaro: the faster you get to us, the faster we can do it |
| 07:06.17 | lilo | dondelelcaro: (either recent exploit, really) |
| 07:06.22 | mr_claus | with which software i can make a screenshot in my x environment? i don't use gnome or kde |
| 07:06.39 | jm_ | mr_claus: /msg dpkg screenshot |
| 07:07.13 | dondelelcaro | lilo: cool; it'd probably just be faster for you all to hilight it, but I'll mention to the other ops that you asked to be paged when we ban people for it. |
| 07:07.32 | mr_claus | jm: ty |
| 07:07.41 | lilo | dondelelcaro: haven't had time to muck with fancy highlighting (and my nick is *lilo*, you know) |
| 07:07.49 | lilo | dondelelcaro: and I don't have a working sound card atm ;) |
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| 07:08.26 | dondelelcaro | lilo: does your pager stay the same most of the time? |
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| 07:08.36 | lilo | dondelelcaro: yep |
| 07:08.55 | lilo | dondelelcaro: if it's ever abused I will change the email address |
| 07:08.56 | nicolas__ | ok, now ill test that fresh 2.6.14 with the ssh timeout bug |
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| 07:09.03 | SlayerXP | morning ladies and gents |
| 07:11.19 | Brian_L | ls |
| 07:11.22 | xapaho | seeya, goodday all |
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| 07:13.03 | Supaplex | Brian_L: 0 files and countless users. |
| 07:14.26 | unix_infidel | what's that program that allows you to have kvm over tcp/ip? |
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| 07:14.31 | unix_infidel | erm *vm. |
| 07:14.43 | Supaplex | vnc ? |
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| 07:14.53 | unix_infidel | no....its something else. |
| 07:14.58 | deadcat | xnest? |
| 07:15.01 | Supaplex | or rdesktop to inferior platforms |
| 07:15.07 | Supaplex | synergy? |
| 07:15.10 | unix_infidel | synergy! |
| 07:15.11 | unix_infidel | THANKS. |
| 07:15.15 | unix_infidel | lol, slipped my mind. |
| 07:16.01 | unix_infidel | i love the keyboard on this thinkpad and i'd much rather use it thatn the desktops :) easy to control both :) |
| 07:16.43 | unstable | eh, I need an ergonomically correct keyboard to type. I can type 10% faster on them. |
| 07:16.56 | unix_infidel | thinkpad keyboards are super nice. |
| 07:16.59 | Supaplex | I can type 43% slower on them |
| 07:17.14 | unix_infidel | i cant type :P |
| 07:17.15 | nevyn | model M > * |
| 07:17.18 | unstable | With hot keys setup, and a really special keyboard. The one I have at work. My productivity is 40% faster. I even use foot pedals. |
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| 07:17.37 | dondelelcaro | unstable: which one? |
| 07:17.45 | nevyn | foot pedals are cool.. particularly for things like emacs |
| 07:17.45 | Coweater | i like how your interface increases your productivity |
| 07:17.52 | weasel00 | unstable : foot pedals?! /boggle |
| 07:18.03 | nevyn | weasel00: common among emacs users. |
| 07:18.10 | jm_ | I wonder why :P |
| 07:18.11 | unstable | dondelelcaro: http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/essential.htm |
| 07:18.17 | dondelelcaro | weasel00: it's actually not that unusual, the kinesis FE comes with them. |
| 07:18.20 | unstable | I use vi not emacs |
| 07:19.03 | unstable | It's expensive though, hence why I have it at work, they pay for it. |
| 07:19.17 | unstable | I don't use this setup at home, though I wish I had it at home. Just too much of a cheap bastard. |
| 07:19.19 | dondelelcaro | unstable: heh. http://gallery.donarmstrong.com/don_lab/015_lab_desk_10232003.jpg?width=1600 |
| 07:19.43 | mr_claus | jm: are snapshots does not work with thinclients? i get always a white picture if i try to do a screenshot |
| 07:19.56 | unstable | It's amazing once you get used to it, your productivity increases a lot. |
| 07:20.01 | dondelelcaro | mr_claus: import -window root foo.png; should work. |
| 07:20.11 | unstable | nice dondelelcaro |
| 07:20.17 | jm_ | mr_claus: it should work |
| 07:20.53 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: wouldnt that confuse you when you go back to a normal keyboard? |
| 07:20.56 | mr_claus | it's all the time a white screen |
| 07:21.13 | unstable | deadcat: not really |
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| 07:21.25 | Coweater | confusing is when you change keyboard layouts |
| 07:21.28 | unstable | deadcat: It's like knowing two languages. |
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| 07:21.53 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: no... I'm typing on a normal keyboard right now... |
| 07:22.01 | dondelelcaro | (well, as normal as a laptop keyboard gets...) |
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| 07:22.10 | Supaplex | it's days like this that amaze me I even had stuff like xchat installed. |
| 07:22.16 | mr_claus | jm: i use nx to connect to my terminal server, perhaps that's the problem? |
| 07:22.34 | weasel00 | unstable : you happen to have a link to one of these manufacturers? |
| 07:23.02 | unstable | weasel00: http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/essential.htm |
| 07:23.46 | weasel00 | unstable: was curious about the ones with the pedals |
| 07:24.24 | unstable | weasel00: http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/products.htm |
| 07:24.38 | weasel00 | unstable : just found it as you sent the link |
| 07:24.40 | jm_ | mr_claus: problematic cases are when the apps are using XVideo or OpenGL,regular X11 apps should just work |
| 07:25.04 | unstable | dondelelcaro: How much was your kinesis? |
| 07:25.33 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: how was the socal linux convention? |
| 07:25.59 | weasel00 | guess i was expecting sometihng more exciting thanthat lol |
| 07:26.03 | dondelelcaro | unstable: 200 something; was a while ago that I bot it |
| 07:26.10 | dondelelcaro | s/bot/bought/ |
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| 07:26.29 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: kind of small as usual; some interesting people to talk to too. |
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| 07:26.52 | deadcat | ah. 3 pictures |
| 07:27.02 | dondelelcaro | yeah, I sort of didn't take many pictures |
| 07:27.09 | mr_claus | jm_: hmm, but there is always a white screen in my image file |
| 07:29.22 | mr_claus | jm_: X is running though a nxproxy (DISPLAY=unix:1002.0), would that be the reason perhaps? |
| 07:29.49 | jm_ | mr_claus: how do you connect to NX server? |
| 07:30.19 | mr_claus | jm_: with the official nx client (windows version) |
| 07:30.24 | weasel00 | dondelelcaro : what's considered small? <10 <100 <1k < 10K ? |
| 07:30.51 | weasel00 | dondelelcaro : for the convention |
| 07:30.56 | jm_ | mr_claus: yeah that may be it then, perhaps it doesn't support this |
| 07:31.44 | mr_claus | jm_: the gimp screenshot function is not working too, it seems the screen cannot taken :/ |
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| 07:38.52 | hondadude | hi can anyone help me install ghostscript into my debian? |
| 07:40.18 | ice_1963 | ok |
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| 07:43.01 | SerajewelKS | hondadude: apt-get install gs-gpl |
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| 07:43.11 | foo | What does VPS stand for in a UML environment? |
| 07:43.13 | foo | (user mode linux) |
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| 07:43.28 | SerajewelKS | foo: google it? |
| 07:43.49 | xdr | somebodanyone who can tell me what the iptable command is for a simple masq_ |
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| 07:44.05 | foo | SerajewelKS: hm, heh. Thanks. |
| 07:44.12 | hondadude | ah thanx SerajewelKS |
| 07:44.13 | foo | xdr: man iptables, I forget. |
| 07:44.20 | xdr | iptables -A -i eth1 -o eth0 something |
| 07:44.36 | SerajewelKS | xdr: it depends on a lot of things -- the subnet you want to masquerade, what interface you want to send the traffic to, etc |
| 07:44.54 | xdr | foo: Ive been checking through it with no result |
| 07:45.07 | foo | xdr: ahh, hmm. |
| 07:45.18 | xdr | SerajewelKS: just wanna forward from one interface to another |
| 07:45.41 | xdr | SerajewelKS: just for now |
| 07:46.04 | xdr | while Im playing with my firewall |
| 07:46.26 | hondadude | SerajewelKS: gs-gpl is already the newest version. , so i have it already? i dont get it.... :/ |
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| 07:48.05 | SerajewelKS | hondadude: yes, you do |
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| 07:48.34 | SerajewelKS | xdr: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -i source-iface -o dest-iface -j MASQUERADE |
| 07:48.40 | SerajewelKS | xdr: and enable ip_forward |
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| 07:50.17 | lord_rob | Hi ! I can't use mplayer (marillat's packages) with xv output. Any idea why ? |
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| 07:52.02 | SerajewelKS | lord_rob: do other things (xine, vlc) work with xv? |
| 07:52.36 | xdr | SerajewelKS: I can't use i with POSTROUTING and not -o with PREROUTING |
| 07:53.05 | SerajewelKS | xdr: use --source instead then, e.g. --source 192.168.0.0/24 -o eth0 |
| 07:53.10 | lord_rob | SerajewelKS: hmmm lemme try |
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| 07:54.15 | SerajewelKS | wow, peanut butter is a filling snack |
| 07:54.58 | Brian_L | heh |
| 07:55.16 | lord_rob | SerajewelKS: seems so ... |
| 07:55.40 | Brian_L | ls |
| 07:55.47 | Supaplex | 0 files, countless users. |
| 07:55.50 | Supaplex | ;) |
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| 07:58.08 | xdr | thx SerajewelKS |
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| 08:03.53 | hondadude | SerajewelKS: have you any idea what i can do? it was sugessted that i migh have forgotton to install ghostskript, so if i have it i dunno what to do now.. :/ |
| 08:05.21 | lord_rob | SerajewelKS: uhm no xine doesn't work with xv, sorry |
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| 08:15.10 | Rawplayer | mi |
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| 08:17.04 | aidan | I'm trying to get ViewCVS to work, I get an error running it saying "ImportError: No module named svn" |
| 08:17.23 | sanxiyn | aidan: Do you plan to use it with Subversion? |
| 08:17.37 | aidan | I have both the python-svn and python2.3-svn packages installed (should I remove one of them?), what else do I need? |
| 08:17.46 | aidan | yes, sanxiyn |
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| 08:18.31 | sanxiyn | aidan: Which Python version ViewCVS is running under |
| 08:18.50 | sanxiyn | aidan: If it's 2.3, eh, that should work, if it's 2.4, then it's obvious why it doesn't work :) |
| 08:19.04 | aidan | I think 2.3 but I should check |
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| 08:23.09 | hondadude | i am getting this message client-error-not-possible when trying to print from my hp1100, i was told i might have forgotton to install ghostscript but that seems to be installed...what can i do? |
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| 08:24.20 | kevix | !cups |
| 08:24.20 | dpkg | i heard cups is a spiffy new printing system. or available under the GPL since june 1999., or making loads of trouble if you try to use it. what breast size?, or available at http://www.cups.org (or so says http://www.easysw.com), or see cups-unstable, or http://localhost:631/admin, or see cups setup |
| 08:24.54 | kevix | !cups setup |
| 08:24.54 | dpkg | hmm... cups setup is Install cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsomatic-ppd and foomatic-db. Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy! |
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| 08:25.08 | novem | can anyone help me, im trying to log in with ssh from xp and get x forwarding going, i have to have an xfree86 emulator running on windows to do this correct? |
| 08:25.21 | hondadude | yeah i have looked at that , not working :( |
| 08:25.21 | novem | whats the best one to use? want something lightweight i can burn to a cd |
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| 08:26.24 | kevix | !x forward |
| 08:26.30 | kevix | !x forwarding |
| 08:26.35 | kevix | !forwarding |
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| 08:27.24 | hondadude | kevix: thanx but i have looked at all that and still no go |
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| 08:28.09 | novem | not to long ago someone in here told me about an x11 emulator that you can burn to a cd /run on windows, that doesnt need install, can anyone tell me the name of it? |
| 08:28.13 | ita | good day to you - im a complete newbie .. i installed debian (sarge i think) and system took some 192.168.x.y ip .. how do i change the ip now ?! (dont hit me, i cant even find that on google :>) |
| 08:28.56 | zinx | x11 emulator? o_O |
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| 08:29.24 | kevix | ita: you must have dhcp setup in /etc/network/interfaces 'man interfaces' for more info |
| 08:29.24 | sep | !interfaces |
| 08:29.24 | dpkg | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also "dhcp client". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see "man resolv.conf" for DNS or ask me about "static route" |
| 08:29.31 | Brian_L | !xen |
| 08:29.31 | dpkg | methinks xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, developed by the University of Cambridge. It is intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. Operating systems must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). This enables Xen to achieve high performance virtualization without special hardware support. |
| 08:29.37 | aidan | sanxiyn: got distracted, how can I check? |
| 08:29.58 | Brian_L | dpkg rules |
| 08:29.58 | dpkg | methinks rules is 1) Don't ask to ask. Just state your problem, 2) Don't repeat until 15 mins after, 3) Read and re-read the docs first, then admit it if you REALLY don't understand. You're wasting your time and ours if you haven't at least tried. 4) If your problem ain't solved, come back in 12 hrs or 24 hrs later. We're very international. 5) Be polite and patient. |
| 08:30.09 | jm_ | novem: you mean X server? |
| 08:30.26 | ita | hm of course i found /etc/network .. but there is nothing but empty files and dirs there .. ok some files go like "eth0=eth0" or something but no ip there |
| 08:30.27 | sanxiyn | jm_: I think so. |
| 08:30.32 | ita | but anyways thanks |
| 08:30.41 | aidan | I have python, and python2.3 installed, both have 2.3 version numbers. .. should I remove one of these? |
| 08:31.03 | sanxiyn | novem: I use http://www.netsarang.com/download/main.html |
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| 08:31.12 | sanxiyn | novem: Cygwin X works too. |
| 08:31.13 | novem | im trying to view my X11 desktop from windows XP, to do this i need an X11 emulator on XP correct? |
| 08:31.19 | aidan | blah, I have python2.3-svn installed so I should have all my bases covered |
| 08:31.19 | jm_ | novem: or xlivecd from http://xlivecd.indiana.edu/ |
| 08:31.27 | sanxiyn | novem: You need X server on Windows, yes. |
| 08:31.30 | novem | i think xlivecd was the one i was looking for, thanks ;o) |
| 08:32.04 | novem | is there anyway to do this through XP's remote desktop client, so i can access it on any xp PC without installing xwindow? |
| 08:32.04 | kevix | ita: /etc/networks IS NOT /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:32.31 | jm_ | novem: you can use rdesktop on Linux |
| 08:32.34 | novem | like use xp's remote desktop host program on linux and translate stuff serverside? |
| 08:32.45 | ita | as i said i was talking about /etc/network[no bloody a-b-c or d (c)scotty] .. ill keep trying |
| 08:32.58 | novem | will rdesktop allow me to use the program build into xp, (remote desktop administration tool) to connect to linux? |
| 08:33.09 | jm_ | novem: if you can find that for Linux then yes, but AFAIK it doesn't exist |
| 08:33.13 | novem | ah |
| 08:33.27 | jm_ | novem: no, it's for the other way arround: linux --> xp |
| 08:33.41 | sep | novem, to view you'r linux real monitor display i think x11vnc is the only solution. if a new desktop is enoughf then freenx is great |
| 08:33.48 | hondadude | novem: why dont u ssh to the linux box ? |
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| 08:34.20 | novem | i want to use ssh to the linux box, but im a n00b and need the comforts of a gui ;o/ |
| 08:34.46 | hondadude | so am i but ssh rocks :) |
| 08:34.54 | novem | i know about ssh w/ x forwarding but i dont want to have to install x11 on the xp box |
| 08:35.09 | sep | novem, install freenx on linux, and the nomachine nx client on windows |
| 08:35.10 | weasel00 | !putty |
| 08:35.10 | dpkg | hmm... putty is a DFSG-free ssh/telnet/rsh client for Windows and Linux. It is small, simple, and has no install nonsense. Available at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ |
| 08:35.12 | hondadude | use putty |
| 08:35.13 | sep | !freenx |
| 08:35.13 | dpkg | freenx is probably a Free implementation of the nomachine.com caching system for X, RDP and VNC, based on their GPLd libraries. packages for sarge: "deb http://www.linux.lk/~anuradha/nx/ ./" packages for etch/sid: "deb ftp://ftp.ekhis.org/ekhis/ experimental main" |
| 08:35.15 | novem | okay |
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| 08:35.28 | jm_ | sep: I don't think he'll be able to manage that if he can't find XLiveCD :) |
| 08:35.42 | sanxiyn | dpkg, xlivecd is http://xlivecd.indiana.edu/ , a live CD based on Cygwin/X which can do SSH forwarding |
| 08:35.42 | dpkg | ...but xlivecd is already something else... |
| 08:35.44 | novem | putty still requires an X11 emulator to forward X doesnt it? |
| 08:35.47 | sep | jm_, ohm.. your right. |
| 08:35.53 | jm_ | novem: yes |
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| 08:36.51 | weasel00 | you just trying to access or putt up a gui term session? |
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| 08:38.27 | sep | freenx is a caching system ? for vnc.. does that mean one can use freenx to speed up x11vnc to view :0.0 ? |
| 08:38.56 | neuterspay | Xfree86 -configure --- how can I when it tells me that I can't because xserver's running? |
| 08:39.04 | sep | !drxx |
| 08:39.04 | dpkg | hmm... drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
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| 08:39.17 | novem | xlivecd looks like the perfect solution. thanks guys ;o) |
| 08:39.50 | novem | eventually ill putty/ssh, but i need to get the hang of editing files in command prompt with vi/emacs first |
| 08:39.52 | sanxiyn | sep: NX is a caching system for X protocol, and has nothing to do with VNC. |
| 08:39.57 | warhead | Hi to all |
| 08:40.09 | sep | sanxiyn, so the factoid is wrong ? |
| 08:40.16 | sanxiyn | sep: Which one? |
| 08:40.31 | sep | !freenx |
| 08:40.31 | dpkg | freenx is probably a Free implementation of the nomachine.com caching system for X, RDP and VNC, based on their GPLd libraries. packages for sarge: "deb http://www.linux.lk/~anuradha/nx/ ./" packages for etch/sid: "deb ftp://ftp.ekhis.org/ekhis/ experimental main" |
| 08:40.39 | warhead | I need reinstall my linux, but I have dual boot, win 2000 and debian, how to save master boot sector? |
| 08:40.52 | sep | if freenx was only for X it would not work for windows. so it must atlest support X and rdp |
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| 08:41.08 | sanxiyn | sep: Oh, it seems to tunnel RDP and VNC too. |
| 08:41.14 | sanxiyn | Didn't know that. |
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| 08:41.34 | jm_ | warhead: why would you save it? |
| 08:41.34 | sep | sanxiyn, so back to my orginal questions... i could get the real display at nx speeds ? :) |
| 08:41.52 | sanxiyn | sep: I guess... more on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_technology |
| 08:43.47 | sanxiyn | packages.debian.org up again. |
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| 08:44.32 | sanxiyn | Eh, not really, I guess. |
| 08:44.48 | jm_ | yeah it looks like this is the same as pdo.debian.net, at least in terms of functionality |
| 08:44.58 | jm_ | we've noticed it last week |
| 08:45.04 | sanxiyn | jm_: Both domain resolves to the same IP. |
| 08:45.19 | jm_ | sanxiyn: ahh |
| 08:45.36 | sanxiyn | I guess it's better than "sorry" message... |
| 08:45.50 | sanxiyn | (There are lots of links to packages.debian.org/packagename on the web.) |
| 08:45.52 | neuterspay | Thanks. |
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| 08:50.36 | sett | could anyone give a hint on installing mplayer? any debs |
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| 08:51.16 | streuner | sett: there is xine as well in debian..., /msg dpkg marillat |
| 08:51.23 | sanxiyn | sett: Ask dpkg. |
| 08:51.31 | sett | thx |
| 08:51.43 | streuner | !info vlc |
| 08:51.53 | dpkg | vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4.debian-2 (sid), Packaged size: 7824 kB, Installed size: 18644 kB |
| 08:52.04 | chopp | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:52.13 | sett | never tried vlc |
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| 08:52.18 | sett | is it worthy? |
| 08:52.26 | sanxiyn | sett: Definitely (IMO). |
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| 08:56.25 | pipoca | hola insomnes |
| 08:56.36 | pipoca | (cariñosamente) |
| 08:56.51 | nkuttler | !es |
| 08:56.51 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 08:56.55 | pipoca | tengo una duda, no se como reiniciar la eth |
| 08:57.03 | pipoca | ok |
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| 08:57.40 | lord_rob | make-kpkg kernel_image gives me that weird error message : "The UTS Release version in include/linux/version.h "2.6.15-thinkpad" does not match current version: "2.6.15-thinkpad" Please correct this.". What can I do to correct the problem ? |
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| 09:01.57 | marv- | hi, what was debians default runlevel? 2 or 3? |
| 09:02.02 | streuner | 2 |
| 09:02.11 | jm_ | marv-: a quick look in inittab file will reveal it for you |
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| 09:03.42 | marv- | streuner, jm_: thanks |
| 09:03.46 | Thumann | hi.. anyone down with booting linux using PXE? |
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| 09:06.18 | rlm | hello all |
| 09:06.29 | rlm | how install chkconfig in debian sarge 3.1? |
| 09:06.39 | streuner | you don't |
| 09:06.41 | sep | Thumann, http://www.kegel.com/linux/pxe.html |
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| 09:07.04 | rlm | rlm@ebobir:~$ apt-cache pkgnames | grep chkconfig |
| 09:07.05 | rlm | chkconfig |
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| 09:07.21 | rlm | ebobir:~# apt-get install chkconfig |
| 09:07.32 | rlm | Package chkconfig is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 09:07.33 | rlm | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 09:07.33 | rlm | is only available from another source |
| 09:07.33 | rlm | E: Package chkconfig has no installation candidate |
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| 09:07.43 | rlm | sorry |
| 09:07.45 | streuner | hm |
| 09:07.49 | streuner | rlm: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 09:08.21 | rlm | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 09:08.22 | rlm | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:08.56 | Thumann | sep: my problem is that i've got it up working with most of my machines.. but the ones that use a Broadcom nic fail.. due to the nic not being properly identified.. i've added NIC=tg3 to the append line for the kernel.. |
| 09:08.59 | Thumann | no go though |
| 09:09.02 | liable | !red hat tools |
| 09:09.02 | dpkg | If you're a (former) Red Hat tool looking for Red Hat Tools on debian, you won't find many. But: chkconfig={sysvconfig,sysv-rc-conf,rcconf,update-rc.d}; service=invoke-rc.d; kudzu=discover; rc.local=bootmisc; etc. |
| 09:09.14 | liable | rlm: ^^ |
| 09:09.38 | jm_ | kudzu is also packaged |
| 09:09.46 | rlm | thx all |
| 09:09.57 | sep | Thumann, you mean the kernel boots but the nic is not recogniced in the kernel ? perhaps the driver is not included in your kernel/initrd ? |
| 09:10.41 | jm_ | or perhaps the kernel is simply too old to recognize your hardware |
| 09:11.34 | Thumann | no, the tg3 driver module is supported in the kernel |
| 09:11.51 | jm_ | yes, but perhaps that particular version of tg3 driver doesn't support your hardware |
| 09:11.55 | Thumann | it works without a NIC= append line for my brand new via .. something something.. |
| 09:12.06 | Thumann | jm_: true |
| 09:12.21 | Thumann | any paper on what's requiered for a pxe kernel? |
| 09:12.33 | Thumann | then i could compine a new one .. with.. support for pretty much every nic out there.. |
| 09:13.08 | jm_ | Thumann: does the NIC work when you boot normally? |
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| 09:14.52 | Thumann | jm_: yes |
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| 09:15.17 | jm_ | Thumann: ok in that case the above is all wrong and there's no particular reason it wouldn't work for PXE boot - what do you use for that? |
| 09:15.22 | ootput | have any of you any experience running DeMuDi in a chroot? |
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| 09:16.40 | Thumann | jm_: ltsp server.. |
| 09:16.51 | Thumann | diskless clients boot and login using pxe.. |
| 09:16.57 | Thumann | works on half the pc's.. |
| 09:17.06 | Thumann | broadcom machines are giving me a hard time.. |
| 09:17.15 | Thumann | and i've asked in #ltsp |
| 09:17.20 | Thumann | but they're having nap time |
| 09:17.21 | Thumann | :) |
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| 09:17.29 | belracu | any kernel Gurus here... |
| 09:17.37 | belracu | does get_user() and put_user() take care of Endian nesss ? |
| 09:17.47 | jm_ | Thumann: yes, but what do you use? PXE ROM? Etherboot? |
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| 09:17.57 | Gokee2_laptop | Hey all I just got a laptop and installed debian on it...... being new to all this power saveing stuff I am a bit confised.... I apt-got a bunch of powersaver stuff, but now I have two battery moniters! They look almost the same, one is green fill one is blue fill.... One calls itself klaptop and the other calls itself kpowersave what one is better? Or whats the difference? Thanks |
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| 09:18.27 | Thumann | jm_: pxe |
| 09:18.40 | Thumann | all the pc's have pxe enabled nics.. |
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| 09:19.36 | Gokee2_laptop | weasel, what power save thingy do you use? |
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| 09:19.48 | jm_ | Thumann: does it even start any of the booting? |
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| 09:20.38 | Thumann | jm_: yes.. |
| 09:20.46 | Thumann | it gets the stuff from the server.. |
| 09:20.47 | weasel00 | Gokee2_laptop : default green that comes with xp lol |
| 09:20.55 | Thumann | pxelinux.0 is loaded.. |
| 09:21.07 | Gokee2_laptop | xp? |
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| 09:21.17 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 09:21.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 09:21.20 | Gokee2_laptop | you mean the windows xp?? |
| 09:21.21 | weasel00 | Gokee2_laptop : win-xp |
| 09:21.35 | Thumann | and .. right before it mounts the root fs over NFS.. it initializes the nic.. |
| 09:21.40 | Thumann | or .. it should anyways.. but fails.. |
| 09:21.47 | tarzeau | xp is cool, it works with my sata2 disk |
| 09:21.48 | weasel00 | eeep! |
| 09:21.50 | tarzeau | unlike debian gnu/linux |
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| 09:21.56 | jm_ | tg3 has debugging, maybe try enabling it |
| 09:22.05 | locus | hi, is there a command line tool that let me search the remote Contents-<arch>.gz file? |
| 09:22.08 | Gokee2_laptop | My my |
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| 09:22.28 | liable | locus: zcat zless |
| 09:22.29 | jm_ | locus: not remote not, but see apt-file |
| 09:22.37 | jm_ | not,=no |
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| 09:22.52 | weasel00 | os/2 r0xx0rz =) |
| 09:22.53 | locus | jm_, thanks I'll check that |
| 09:22.54 | liable | hrm, i must have mis-interpreted that question. |
| 09:23.17 | nvz | Gokee2_laptop: you mean it wasnt followed by "for nothing"? |
| 09:23.39 | Gokee2_laptop | nvz, sadly yes |
| 09:23.39 | Thumann | jm_: i've got no clue on how to to that at this stage of booting |
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| 09:24.13 | ootput | Gokee2_laptop: why, it's a plausible statement |
| 09:24.19 | jm_ | Thumann: I would simply compile it into the kernel and set appropriate variable to the right value in driver sources |
| 09:24.23 | weasel00 | Gokee2_laptop : besides im working on my laptop and im not goin to spend the time to rebuild it when i have all my tools already setup and configured... dont fix it if it aint broke mentallity on my tools =) |
| 09:24.44 | Gokee2_laptop | heh |
| 09:25.26 | lord_rob | I cannot send bug reports with reportbug. I suspect the mta (exim4) to be misconfigured. How could I check that ? I mean could I see the bug reports I "sent" stored somewhere ? |
| 09:25.34 | ootput | that's unless, of course, it was already 'broke' by the time it hit the shelves ;) |
| 09:25.46 | Gokee2_laptop | windows.... no ssh client have to download putty and after that no xforwarding and it freezes all the time |
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| 09:26.19 | jm_ | lord_rob: how about checking log files? |
| 09:26.28 | sett | is there some good image viewer? what ppl do you use? |
| 09:26.34 | ootput | Gokee2_laptop: remote desktop is a neat feature. if you're going to be working with the gui anyway ... |
| 09:26.36 | Gokee2_laptop | this two battery moniter thing is really strange they look a lot alike |
| 09:26.40 | streuner | !info gqview |
| 09:26.40 | ootput | sett: feh, xli |
| 09:26.42 | dpkg | gqview: (A simple image viewer using GTK+), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.0.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 718 kB, Installed size: 1984 kB |
| 09:26.47 | lord_rob | jm_: /var/log/exim4 ? |
| 09:26.53 | jm_ | lord_rob: I guess |
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| 09:27.11 | sett | well i need it at least to scroll images in folder when i scroll the mouse button |
| 09:27.31 | Gokee2_laptop | ootput, ya but then you have two taskbars a lot of windows and other stuff..... it works, but I like xforwarding |
| 09:27.32 | sett | as I have to view tons of images |
| 09:27.37 | weasel00 | i deal with more windows than anything else at everysite i goto.. leave the matrix screen saver going and tell the client "its a secret hashing program to find your secretaries phone number" they laugh then neverously keep glancing at it *wink |
| 09:27.39 | Thumann | jm_: well.. the whole compiling a new kernel leeds me back to my initial question.. what's needed in a kernel to boot using pxe.. |
| 09:27.47 | Thumann | besides the nic.. ofc.. |
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| 09:28.12 | jm_ | Thumann: I'd say NFS is a must :) |
| 09:28.17 | lord_rob | 2006-03-06 10:13:22 1FGB7I-0005ym-Mk alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [64.233.185.114] No route to host |
| 09:28.21 | lord_rob | lines like that |
| 09:28.26 | Thumann | jm_: hehe... roger that.. |
| 09:28.31 | novem | hey guys, where is allow x forwarding set in /etc/X11/(?)? |
| 09:28.52 | ootput | Gokee2_laptop: ah.. was trying to elicit a more abrasive response than that :) |
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| 09:29.51 | Gokee2_laptop | ootput, heh I don`t like to battle people over to linux |
| 09:30.10 | Gokee2_laptop | then you have to help them set it up :0 |
| 09:30.21 | sett | feh seems for people, I'll give it a try |
| 09:30.45 | Thumann | jm_: i was thinking beyond that though |
| 09:31.03 | jm_ | Thumann: well what else would you need? perhaps CONFIG_IP_PNP |
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| 09:31.22 | weasel00 | Gokee2_laptop : was aparently born with all the linux knowledge *grin |
| 09:31.36 | Gokee2_laptop | haha |
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| 09:31.55 | ootput | I was taught as a fetus |
| 09:32.01 | Thumann | jm: i'll just answer yes all the way down on my config file then.. hehe |
| 09:32.11 | jm_ | Thumann: no need to do that |
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| 09:32.41 | Gokee2_laptop | weasel, naw just do "halt" :) |
| 09:32.57 | lord_rob | shutdown -h :) |
| 09:32.58 | tarzeau | does someone run seamonkey ? |
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| 09:33.12 | tarzeau | HELP DEBIAN DON'T WORK ON MY SATA-2 COMPUTER |
| 09:33.14 | weasel00 | bah... thanks lord_rob |
| 09:33.14 | Fox | hi |
| 09:33.30 | ootput | tarzeau: what on earth?! |
| 09:33.43 | tarzeau | ootput: i want linux on my sata-2 harddisk |
| 09:33.47 | tarzeau | ootput: but the shit doesn't see it |
| 09:33.59 | tarzeau | ootput: debian gnu/kfreebsd sees it and works, but i want xawtv without windows xp |
| 09:34.09 | tarzeau | and is there no seamonkey debian packages? |
| 09:34.16 | lord_rob | try knoppix and see tarzeau |
| 09:34.18 | tarzeau | damn mozilla! damn users! |
| 09:34.29 | jm_ | Thumann: and CONFIG_ROOT_NFS, but ltsp docs cover this (http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/kernel.html) |
| 09:34.33 | Gokee2_laptop | what is seamonkey? |
| 09:34.43 | lord_rob | old mozilla |
| 09:34.44 | jm_ | tarzeau: use a more recent kernel |
| 09:34.45 | tarzeau | Gokee2_laptop: mozilla with a different name |
| 09:34.50 | redguy | Gokee2_laptop: the new Mozilla siute |
| 09:34.53 | tarzeau | jm_: i tried the 2.6.15 .jp sarge installer |
| 09:35.06 | tarzeau | it doesn't see the disks either |
| 09:35.09 | ootput | any advantages in using one over the other? |
| 09:35.09 | Gokee2_laptop | mmm |
| 09:35.17 | jm_ | tarzeau: does BIOS see it? |
| 09:35.22 | tarzeau | ootput: no idea, stupid user only wants to annoy me |
| 09:35.26 | jm_ | Thumann: uhh that is pretty useless article |
| 09:35.33 | tarzeau | jm_: yes of course, and windows xp too and debian gnu/kfreebsd 5.3 too |
| 09:35.40 | tarzeau | jm_: only the debian gnu/linux not |
| 09:35.45 | jm_ | tarzeau: which chipset is it? |
| 09:35.50 | tarzeau | jm_: i don't know? |
| 09:36.00 | streuner | haha |
| 09:36.01 | jm_ | tarzeau: lspci will tell you |
| 09:36.04 | tarzeau | jm_: a motherboard of last week |
| 09:36.11 | Thumann | ahh |
| 09:36.19 | sep | tarzeau, update-pciids before lspci |
| 09:36.23 | Thumann | there's a .config supplied with ltsp |
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| 09:36.28 | Thumann | i'll go bang my head against the wall |
| 09:36.29 | jm_ | Thumann: yeah |
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| 09:36.39 | tarzeau | when is etch released? |
| 09:36.45 | streuner | tarzeau: you coming to #debian and providing not simple infos for us? |
| 09:36.46 | jm_ | tarzeau: it was probably released way before last week |
| 09:36.47 | sep | !wir |
| 09:36.47 | dpkg | wir is, like, When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 09:36.53 | tarzeau | streuner: i'm not home now |
| 09:37.07 | jm_ | tarzeau: do you know the model number? |
| 09:37.10 | streuner | tarzeau: come back if you have those infos |
| 09:37.21 | tarzeau | jm_: i'll check tonight, i didn't find the info in windows xp |
| 09:37.29 | tarzeau | jm_: and xp killed the bootloader for kfreebsd... |
| 09:37.31 | jm_ | tarzeau: you don't know what you bought? :) |
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| 09:37.36 | tarzeau | jm_: i didn't buy it |
| 09:37.42 | tarzeau | jm_: i've got a secretary for these things |
| 09:37.48 | jm_ | tarzeau: oh boy |
| 09:37.53 | streuner | tarzeau: 'Einstellungen->Systemsteuerung' or such |
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| 09:38.40 | tarzeau | jm_: it's an amd64 box, with nvidia sound card |
| 09:38.47 | tarzeau | jm_: i've had to put a real nic in so network worked |
| 09:38.51 | streuner | tarzeau: or install some Tool which list you all infos about CPU, mobo, HD's |
| 09:39.00 | jm_ | tarzeau: does she have some sort of receipt for it? I have nvidia board and on-board NIC works |
| 09:39.14 | tarzeau | jm_: i've got the box at home, i'll tell tonight... |
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| 09:39.28 | jm_ | tarzeau: ahh OK, just gather all the info you can |
| 09:39.42 | streuner | tarzeau: he's only till 16:00 here... |
| 09:40.06 | jm_ | tarzeau: if lspci says unklnown devices, then run update-pciids like streuner said, or use lspci -n to get numeric ID-s which can be looked up easily |
| 09:40.09 | tarzeau | streuner: then i'll keep the infos ready for tomorrow morning |
| 09:40.19 | tarzeau | k |
| 09:40.25 | jm_ | no doubt other people will be able to help you with it later today |
| 09:40.33 | streuner | tarzeau: there should be somebody around who knows about SATA... |
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| 09:41.05 | jm_ | there was one feller with ATI SATA chipset last week, that one is not listed on libata web page, but he said it worked in FC |
| 09:41.13 | streuner | tarzeau: #debian-boot would be another choice |
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| 09:43.20 | delmar | this is fully the wierdest thing I have come accross.... I boot up with the pre-packaged kernel 2.6.15-1-686-smp.. and both the on-board and extra pci nic's come up with the ip's static set.... but .. nothing pings... heres the wierd part.. if I soft reboot (shutdown -fr now) and go back to the old kernel (2.6.14, custom) .. the system will load with the same problems. but if I fully power off and never boot up with 2.6.15-1, it will boot up |
| 09:43.29 | delmar | that has got to be the wierdest nonsense I have come accross. |
| 09:43.43 | delmar | in fact.. its not nonsense.. its bull shit. lol |
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| 09:44.20 | jm_ | apparently 2.6.15 has quite some problems |
| 09:44.33 | delmar | jm_, so it would seem :P |
| 09:44.47 | delmar | i reckon i might stick to 2.6.14 |
| 09:44.49 | liable | yay, glad i have been to lazy to compile it :) |
| 09:44.51 | delmar | seems to run nice |
| 09:44.52 | jm_ | delmar: then again, there are plenty of options to tinker with |
| 09:44.57 | Acid`X | delmar: probably the kernel is loading eth1394 to the firewire ports making your ethernet in another port |
| 09:45.02 | jm_ | liable: works fine for me so far |
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| 09:45.14 | bushwakko | I just need a hacky way to get a personal deb-pkg to run a script after installing, how do I do that? |
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| 09:45.59 | delmar | Acid`X, so u think the eth0 and eth1 that i have configured.. are not working because they are in fact.. 1394's |
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| 09:46.14 | delmar | Acid`X, yeah but how on earth is the foulup effecting the situation when I soft reboot back to 2.6.14? |
| 09:46.32 | delmar | I have to fully power off and boot 2.6.14 for things to work again |
| 09:46.41 | Acid`X | delmar: blacklist eth1394 and should work |
| 09:47.33 | delmar | Acid`X, to tell the truth I have had so little experience with pre-packaged kernels I don't know much about it... I have compiled my own stuff from scratch for as long as I can remember... late 90's lol |
| 09:47.46 | delmar | so whats the method to black list a module? |
| 09:47.54 | resiak | !blacklist |
| 09:47.55 | dpkg | somebody said blacklist was Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 09:48.00 | delmar | cheers |
| 09:48.02 | delmar | :P |
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| 09:51.25 | incorrect | i once found a good howto on snmp on debian, however i think it was on debian planet, google isn't being much help, what site do most people use these days? |
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| 09:51.40 | novem | bah, why am i getting cant open display, trying to export X app to windowsXp with xlivecd using ssh -X me@mypc |
| 09:52.07 | incorrect | novem, have you enabled X forwarding in /etc/sshd_config ? |
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| 09:52.17 | novem | yeah |
| 09:52.26 | jm_ | !tell novem -about sshx |
| 09:52.42 | incorrect | !tell incorrect -about sshx |
| 09:52.43 | streuner | tarzeau: still around? |
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| 09:53.06 | incorrect | !tell incorrect -about snmp |
| 09:53.10 | numist | !tell numist about sex |
| 09:53.22 | incorrect | !tell incorrect -about sex |
| 09:53.24 | tarzeau | streuner: yes? |
| 09:53.29 | incorrect | lol |
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| 09:53.39 | incorrect | oh yes i forgot debian had sex in it |
| 09:53.57 | incorrect | i think more packages should have amusing names |
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| 09:54.07 | streuner | tarzeau: use etch installer (2.6.12) or etch beta installer (2.6.15) - most of SATA HD's aren't supported of <2.6.9... |
| 09:54.12 | incorrect | the debian silly names for packages project |
| 09:54.20 | tarzeau | streuner: i've tried the .jp's 2.6.15 kernel |
| 09:54.24 | tarzeau | streuner: and it failed too! |
| 09:54.26 | jm_ | streuner: he said he tried Sarge 2.6.15 kernel |
| 09:54.33 | numist | incorrect: the -about isnt really necessary... about works just fine |
| 09:54.41 | streuner | tarzeau: check out config then of both |
| 09:54.42 | novem | i have xauth, xbase-clients etc |
| 09:54.49 | incorrect | lol |
| 09:54.50 | novem | still no luck |
| 09:54.55 | streuner | tarzeau: we still need the chipset |
| 09:55.00 | incorrect | its a monday morning, i need some cheering up :) |
| 09:55.44 | streuner | tarzeau: i don't think that the version of kfreebsd has better drivers |
| 09:56.05 | streuner | tarzeau: so it should be supported in any case |
| 09:56.09 | novem | is there something i have to set in ssh/xlivecd before the display will export? |
| 09:56.27 | jm_ | no, ssh sets DISPLAY variable properly if X forwarding can be used |
| 09:56.34 | novem | hmm. |
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| 09:57.01 | novem | /etc/ssh/ssh_config has forwardX11 yes, is there anythign else? |
| 09:57.04 | jm_ | but if you're using something else, say putty, then check their docs |
| 09:57.10 | jm_ | did you restart sshd after editing that file? |
| 09:57.16 | novem | ahhh doh!! |
| 09:57.34 | jm_ | putty also has X11 forwarding checkbox |
| 09:57.57 | novem | not using putty |
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| 09:58.59 | liable | dont you need an xserver with putty? |
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| 10:00.57 | novem | yes, thats why im not using it ;o) |
| 10:01.42 | fireba11 | liable: xserver with putty ? who got that idea ? |
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| 10:03.00 | novem | im still getting cant open display.. ;o/ |
| 10:03.33 | fireba11 | usually putty is used for a plain ssh login .. ^^ |
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| 10:04.20 | novem | other then /etc/ssh/ssh_config forwardX11, and ssh -X root@me, am i missing something? |
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| 10:04.55 | ootput | omfg, ardour is so damn cool |
| 10:05.04 | Fox | novem: sshd_config or ssh_config ? |
| 10:05.14 | novem | ssh_config |
| 10:05.54 | novem | do |
| 10:05.56 | novem | *doh! |
| 10:06.21 | jm_ | !lart novem |
| 10:07.26 | novem | i set it in sshd_config & restarted, still no luck ;o/ |
| 10:08.17 | novem | can ssh export X if xserver is already running on host? |
| 10:08.31 | Fox | sure |
| 10:08.52 | Thumann | jm_: ohh.. it says that i should use mknbi to transform the raw kernel into the format needed for booting over a network.. didn't know that |
| 10:09.00 | novem | then i have no idea :o( |
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| 10:11.29 | jm_ | Thumann: I thought you said kernel does start to boot and then fails at configuring the NIC phase? |
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| 10:17.47 | tziku | how can i set clock and date on my machine ? |
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| 10:20.23 | peterS | tziku: the simple way is to install 'ntpdate' so it can pull the correct time off the Internet. then use the hwclock utility to set your CMOS clock to the system time |
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| 10:23.29 | tziku | peterS my hwclock is incorect...i want to be same with: "hwclock --utc" , how can i do theat ? |
| 10:23.52 | peterS | tziku: I just told you |
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| 10:24.20 | tarzeau | streuner: ok i'll check |
| 10:24.21 | tziku | give me an example please peterS ... please |
| 10:24.26 | helloyo | i'm a little out of touch with debian, where do i find the net install cd of etch? (testing) |
| 10:24.52 | peterS | tziku: start by installing the thing I said you should install |
| 10:25.03 | streuner | tarzeau: ask in #debian-boot too and give infos about to 'kmuto' |
| 10:25.09 | tziku | done peterS: Running ntpdate to synchronize clock. |
| 10:25.24 | tziku | :~# ntpdate |
| 10:25.24 | tziku | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:26.01 | maatttt | hi all. |
| 10:26.16 | peterS | tziku: run it with pool.ntp.org, as the install probably suggested |
| 10:26.17 | tarzeau | streuner: tonight |
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| 10:26.46 | eps | how do I kill eps 31939 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z Mar05 0:00 [firefox-bin] <defunct> |
| 10:26.48 | eps | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.00 | pngwn | helloyo, debian.org/CD |
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| 10:27.08 | tziku | peterS : 6 Mar 12:26:31 ntpdate[18345]: step time server 148.243.173.8 offset 55.121088 sec |
| 10:27.15 | maatttt | if a package is in Testing, is it likely to ever be in Sare |
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| 10:27.17 | Fox | eps: tried to kill the parent process ? |
| 10:27.19 | maatttt | Sarge ? |
| 10:27.29 | nix | maatttt: not until a next release. |
| 10:27.32 | serprime | killall firefox-bin? |
| 10:27.35 | eps | Fox I can't see a parent...erm |
| 10:27.37 | streuner | maatttt: /msg dpkg backports |
| 10:27.40 | eps | serprime no effect |
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| 10:27.46 | streuner | maatttt: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 10:27.47 | peterS | tziku: so your system time was 55 seconds off, now it's right |
| 10:28.01 | eps | thanks Fox :D |
| 10:28.02 | dj_smilee|work | grrr system time |
| 10:28.02 | serprime | xkill?? |
| 10:28.07 | dj_smilee|work | how do i disable acpi |
| 10:28.11 | dj_smilee|work | if its enabled in the kernel |
| 10:28.14 | tziku | peterS i found on google :) thx for all but was a simple command: hwclock --systohc --utc |
| 10:28.23 | eps | killing the parent worked easily (used to system monitor to find it) |
| 10:28.25 | streuner | dj_smilee|work: via kerneloptions |
| 10:28.28 | karsten | dj_smilee|work: Trade you: how do I enable it? |
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| 10:28.34 | dj_smilee|work | lol |
| 10:28.37 | karsten | dj_smilee|work: noacpi in your boot config should do it. |
| 10:28.38 | peterS | tziku: yes, it has a manpage an' everything |
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| 10:28.44 | Fox | eps: you can use ps to get the parent as well |
| 10:28.51 | dj_smilee|work | in boot.lst? |
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| 10:29.07 | streuner | dj_smilee|work: sounds ok to me, yes via bootloader |
| 10:29.09 | eps | Fox how? |
| 10:29.10 | dj_smilee|work | k |
| 10:29.15 | Fox | eps: man ps :) |
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| 10:29.28 | eps | Fox already reading it :P |
| 10:29.36 | dj_smilee|work | the system time of my debian box on vmware slows down |
| 10:29.43 | dj_smilee|work | really annoying |
| 10:29.48 | dj_smilee|work | something to do with cpu power states |
| 10:29.55 | karsten | dj_smilee|work: IIRC that's a known vmware bug, RTFM. |
| 10:30.03 | dj_smilee|work | i did u clown |
| 10:30.09 | dj_smilee|work | thats why im disabling acpi |
| 10:30.09 | dj_smilee|work | :P |
| 10:30.16 | karsten | dj_smilee|work: Dig. |
| 10:30.19 | fireba11 | dj_smilee|work: using ntp fpr the VM is no help ? |
| 10:30.22 | dj_smilee|work | its been a bug for like. almost 2 years |
| 10:30.22 | chopp | helloyo, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 10:30.33 | helloyo | chopp: thanks |
| 10:30.35 | CcSsNET | it will always be a bug |
| 10:30.45 | CcSsNET | use some logic when thinking about it |
| 10:30.47 | chopp | helloyo, np |
| 10:30.52 | CcSsNET | its obvios why it happens |
| 10:30.59 | dj_smilee|work | when the system idles and drops into C3 |
| 10:31.04 | dj_smilee|work | starts slowing down |
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| 10:32.15 | maatttt | I have found a backport for rrdtool v1.2, but how do I find out if it requires other backports ? http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/r/rrdtool/ |
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| 10:32.35 | streuner | maatttt: by installing it |
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| 10:32.49 | streuner | maatttt: just install the package and it will tell you ;-) |
| 10:32.58 | karsten | What's the currently preferred Linux 2.6 power management for laptops, Thinkpad T21 if specifics matter. |
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| 10:33.25 | azeem | karsten: you mean apm or acpi? |
| 10:33.30 | jm_ | maatttt: it will definitely need new librrd2 too |
| 10:33.39 | azeem | acpi is known to work pretty well on Thinkpads |
| 10:33.52 | karsten | azeem: Yeah. |
| 10:34.00 | Thumann | jm_: i did, so i don't know it this is a dead end... but i'll try none the less |
| 10:34.09 | karsten | azeem: How much of this requires special disk partition configuration. |
| 10:34.11 | azeem | karsten: at least for testing/unstable |
| 10:34.14 | maatttt | will i be able to uninstall a backport ? |
| 10:34.16 | azeem | karsten: ? |
| 10:34.24 | streuner | maatttt: of course |
| 10:34.30 | jm_ | maatttt: in other words, look at it dependencies (versions have bpo in them) |
| 10:34.36 | prp | hello, i have a router that's running debian... and i want to provide internet access to user based on a user/password... what is the simplest implementation.. i am looking at IPsec but i see downsides on the windows part.. (clients ar mostly windows) i was thinking of an aplication that will auth the user.. any ideeas ? |
| 10:34.38 | azeem | karsten: why would you need special disk partitioning? |
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| 10:35.21 | nornagon | hm, debian-installer fails to detect (what I am led to believe is) my Intel Wireless Pro card. |
| 10:35.22 | karsten | azeem: A suspend partition. |
| 10:35.27 | nornagon | (laptop.) |
| 10:35.31 | karsten | azeem: Some docs refer to that. |
| 10:35.36 | azeem | karsten: suspend to disk uses swap |
| 10:35.44 | karsten | nornagon: Some wifi cards are supported, some not. |
| 10:35.51 | fireba11 | prp you could make openVPN connections .. that work well with windows too ... though that seems a bit overkill |
| 10:35.51 | azeem | I am not quite sure on the size requirements of it, though |
| 10:35.54 | karsten | !tell nornagon about madwifi |
| 10:35.57 | nornagon | karsten: just wondering if the intel ones were... |
| 10:36.08 | karsten | azeem: I've got > 1 GB swap w/ ~196MB RAM. |
| 10:36.14 | karsten | azeem: ... I think that will be enough ;-) |
| 10:36.15 | azeem | karsten: that should be fine |
| 10:36.19 | peterS | karsten: pretty sure the special partition thing is APM. with ACPI, the BIOS doesn't get actively involved in the suspend process, it's all linux's doing, so it uses your swap instead |
| 10:37.14 | maatttt | dj_smilee|work: http://www.vmware.com/support/kb/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1420 |
| 10:37.16 | prp | fireba11: yes... |
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| 10:37.57 | karsten | peterS: Thanks. |
| 10:38.25 | fireba11 | prp: you need user/pass or could you do it IP based ? |
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| 10:38.35 | azeem | karsten: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki is a pretty good resource for Thinkpads |
| 10:38.41 | karsten | azeem: Found it ;-) |
| 10:38.45 | azeem | heh |
| 10:38.58 | karsten | azeem: I hear IBM.com and lenovo.com might also have something to offer. |
| 10:39.06 | prp | fireba11: that's the problem... people steal each other's ip/mac address.. and i want a user/pass system to protect it |
| 10:39.19 | karsten | azeem: ... I've got most of the docs locally d/l'd, as well as linuxlaptops.org's T21 pages. |
| 10:39.19 | azeem | dunno, the apci stuff has been merged post 2.6.9 AFAIK |
| 10:39.32 | azeem | how old is a T21? |
| 10:39.34 | maatttt | is /etc/apt/preferences a plain text file ? I don;t have one, should I create it if I need it ? |
| 10:39.37 | karsten | azeem: Yeah, my main problem is remembering too much of the hard old stuff. |
| 10:39.40 | azeem | maatttt: yes |
| 10:39.52 | karsten | azeem: Mfg date ~ 04/2001 if I read stickers right. |
| 10:39.56 | fireba11 | prp: just wondering ... what type of network is that if you distrust your users THAT much ? also, user and pass are send over network and could be relatively easy be compromised that way |
| 10:40.00 | karsten | azeem: P3-800 196 MB 20 GB. |
| 10:40.04 | azeem | ok |
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| 10:40.42 | dj_smilee|work | thanks maatttt :) |
| 10:40.43 | karsten | azeem: Some of that likely to be updated. Basically good, inexpensive kit. Performance is more than adequate so far. |
| 10:41.17 | prp | fireba11: open network... just like linux.. anybody can connect for free.. only internet services are paid... and here apeers the problem.. |
| 10:41.19 | azeem | getting a used Thinkpad is the next best thing one can do besides getting a new one, IMHO |
| 10:41.23 | maatttt | dj_smilee|work: thats for GSX, I don;t know if it's the same for Workstation or the newer Server. |
| 10:41.36 | Shadowcat | which company makes good 8port unmanaged switches |
| 10:41.40 | fireba11 | prp ah okay, then paranoia is reasonably :-) |
| 10:41.41 | dj_smilee|work | server is based on GSX i think |
| 10:41.48 | Shadowcat | looking to replace a 10/100 8 port switch at home |
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| 10:42.33 | fireba11 | prp: what about building a web interface where users can input user/pass over ssl to enable network for that IP for a certain time ? like 12 hours ? |
| 10:42.35 | prp | fireba11: so openvpn is my only hope.. |
| 10:42.36 | peterS | Shadowcat: the only switches I've *ever* had problems with were those old Linksys plastic clunkers. power supplies tended to fail. |
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| 10:42.48 | jm_ | Shadowcat: for home you don't need to care much, I've asked about Linksys 100Mbps switches here a while ago and two people had them and were happy |
| 10:42.55 | Shadowcat | peterS: the one I have right now is a Zoonet switch |
| 10:42.56 | prp | fireba11: tried that system.. it faild.. |
| 10:43.02 | dj_smilee|work | maatttt: i'll give it a go, see if it works :) |
| 10:43.03 | Shadowcat | I have to restart it after about a week or so |
| 10:43.08 | prp | fireba11: *failed |
| 10:43.08 | fireba11 | prp: *curious* how ? |
| 10:43.12 | Shadowcat | because it can't handle the load at 100mbps full duplex |
| 10:43.18 | Shadowcat | it'll simply stop routing packets |
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| 10:43.32 | dj_smilee|work | you mean forwarding frames? ;) |
| 10:43.41 | Shadowcat | ya |
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| 10:43.44 | Shadowcat | but you get the picture |
| 10:43.48 | Shadowcat | it's annoying like hell |
| 10:43.51 | dj_smilee|work | any switch you buy these days will work fine |
| 10:43.57 | prp | fireba11: well.. i active at it for 12 hours.. let's say.. i use it 4 and iclose the computer.. other person will use it. when i put it to just enable / disable it.. users forgot to disable it.. |
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| 10:44.01 | dj_smilee|work | just buy a netgear or something |
| 10:44.08 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: I was thinking of getting a 3com switch |
| 10:44.16 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: they come in the same casing as the zoonet though |
| 10:44.17 | dj_smilee|work | they're all the same |
| 10:44.33 | dj_smilee|work | nearly all use a realtek store and forward chip |
| 10:44.52 | Shadowcat | so no point in getting a more expensive 3com? |
| 10:45.00 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: so why then would mine crap out? |
| 10:45.09 | petemc | i use 3com 4400 switches, they're good |
| 10:45.24 | fireba11 | prp: what about making it only 30 minutes or so and having the login page reload itself every 25 minutes ? reload gives the user 30 more minutes without user interaction .. they just need to leave the browser page open |
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| 10:45.48 | dj_smilee|work | whats happening Shadowcat? your switch shouldnt drop frames |
| 10:46.03 | prp | fireba11: could be a shot.. |
| 10:46.03 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: basically if I leave everything for about a week |
| 10:46.03 | fireba11 | prp: or make the server ping the free IPs every 5 minutes and disable it yourself if the host is gone |
| 10:46.13 | Shadowcat | network traffic doesn't get through |
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| 10:46.18 | Shadowcat | I gotta restart the switch |
| 10:46.18 | karsten | peterS: So I want what packages? acpi, acpid, acpitool? |
| 10:46.21 | Shadowcat | i.e. unplug, replug |
| 10:46.33 | dj_smilee|work | do you move computers around much? |
| 10:46.38 | peterS | karsten: I don't even *have* a laptop, so I doubt I'm up to date on this stuff. azeem seemed to know |
| 10:46.39 | dj_smilee|work | change devices on ports at all? |
| 10:46.46 | karsten | peterS: Point. |
| 10:46.54 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: no but I do have a laptop that I plug in once in a while |
| 10:47.02 | Shadowcat | that shouldn't affect it that much though |
| 10:47.10 | Shadowcat | as I'm never touching the cables connected to the switch |
| 10:47.10 | abhi | hi guys |
| 10:47.15 | dj_smilee|work | some switches can get confused and mess up their mac tables |
| 10:47.16 | peterS | karsten: all I knew was about the special partition and why you most likely don't need one in this day and age (: |
| 10:47.20 | abhi | i have just upgraded my nautilus |
| 10:47.22 | karsten | peterS: OK. |
| 10:47.26 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: heh confused |
| 10:47.30 | dj_smilee|work | :) |
| 10:47.31 | abhi | and now i am unable to access windows machines |
| 10:47.33 | Shadowcat | that's probably what's happening |
| 10:47.36 | abhi | using smb protocol |
| 10:47.39 | dj_smilee|work | just buy any branded 10/100 switch |
| 10:47.39 | azeem | karsten: I am really not uptodate with this on Debian, sorry |
| 10:47.40 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: so which switch DOESN'T get confused :P |
| 10:47.41 | prp | fireba11: hmm |
| 10:47.43 | dj_smilee|work | and it will work flawlessly |
| 10:47.47 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: this is a brand, Zoonet |
| 10:47.52 | karsten | azeem: OK |
| 10:47.54 | Shadowcat | never buying that again |
| 10:47.54 | dj_smilee|work | i've never heard of zoonet |
| 10:47.55 | prp | fireba11: i could try the second one |
| 10:48.00 | abhi | can someone tell me how to correct this problem |
| 10:48.00 | dj_smilee|work | buy a netgear |
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| 10:48.09 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: heh |
| 10:48.13 | Shadowcat | heard of cNet |
| 10:48.23 | dj_smilee|work | yeah |
| 10:48.23 | azeem | karsten: the biggest issue will be to find the proper suspend-to-disk kit, dunno what is preferred right now |
| 10:48.25 | Shadowcat | they're selling a 16port switch for the price of an 8 port |
| 10:48.31 | SPF | grub hangs (bios support <32Gb) /boot on hdd < 32Gb / on hdd > 32Gb. Is it possible to repair grub? |
| 10:48.34 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: how good is their hardware? |
| 10:48.39 | karsten | azeem: Ok. |
| 10:48.40 | dj_smilee|work | its fine |
| 10:48.48 | dj_smilee|work | infact |
| 10:48.52 | dj_smilee|work | its excellent value |
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| 10:49.07 | Shadowcat | and it won't get confused? :P |
| 10:49.09 | abhi | also my CR-RW/DVDR driver is not being detected by debian |
| 10:49.20 | dj_smilee|work | no :P |
| 10:49.24 | dj_smilee|work | and they even look nice |
| 10:49.33 | abhi | even if I try to install using DVD, it still doesnt detect CD/DVD once the installation starts |
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| 10:49.43 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: any idea as to why mine's getting confused though? |
| 10:49.50 | abhi | I have right now done a network install using a local mirror |
| 10:49.51 | Shadowcat | it didn't happen when the uplink was 10/10 |
| 10:50.02 | Shadowcat | it only started after they upgraded to 100mbps from the isp |
| 10:50.03 | karsten | azeem: Bob's a good guy, this page details some ACPI: http://www.proulx.com/~bob/nc4000/ |
| 10:50.22 | Shadowcat | which leads me to believe that the switch can't handle 100mbps constantly |
| 10:50.25 | dj_smilee|work | poor hardware |
| 10:50.32 | dj_smilee|work | it could just be coping |
| 10:50.36 | dj_smilee|work | not* |
| 10:50.39 | coolsail | what's the difference between firefox and mozilla-firefox ? |
| 10:50.51 | Shadowcat | coolsail: second is a transition package |
| 10:50.57 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: that's what I call crappy hardware :P |
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| 10:51.13 | Shadowcat | that means it can't handle 10 1mb streams to one port |
| 10:51.14 | Shadowcat | :( |
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| 10:51.35 | jm_ | SPF: when does it hang? |
| 10:52.38 | coolsail | Shadowcat ,so you mean i should install both ? |
| 10:52.40 | karsten | Anyone have problems with grub-install doing floppy probes when it shouldn't? |
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| 10:53.02 | sett | does this channel have web logs? |
| 10:53.06 | jm_ | karsten: you mean when you use --no-floppy? |
| 10:53.16 | dj_smilee|work | its switch fabric is probably rubbish |
| 10:53.19 | Jivco | where to add static routes in debian so after a restart they'll remain? |
| 10:53.52 | jm_ | Jivco: interfaces file |
| 10:53.52 | dj_smilee|work | it probably cant handle over 40 megs |
| 10:53.57 | karsten | jm_: Yep. |
| 10:54.01 | jm_ | Jivco: or if-up.d scripts or ... |
| 10:54.09 | karsten | jm_: grub-install --no-floppy /dev/hda |
| 10:54.19 | jm_ | karsten: yeah I've seen that happen too |
| 10:54.30 | karsten | jm_: /var/log/messages: Mar 6 02:52:07 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 |
| 10:54.35 | Jivco | I wonder if thre is a standart location for configuring static routes\ |
| 10:54.39 | karsten | jm_: ... etc. Even loaded the floppy module. |
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| 10:55.39 | leipepo | wouw |
| 10:55.57 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: that would be my guess |
| 10:56.01 | Shadowcat | but the cNet's can? |
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| 10:56.11 | leipepo | hey people |
| 10:56.22 | leipepo | its busy here :-) |
| 10:56.30 | leipepo | could somebody help me? |
| 10:56.41 | karsten | !tell leipepo about ask |
| 10:57.36 | SlayerXP | leipepo: help you do what? |
| 10:57.59 | dj_smilee|work | Shadowcat, you could buy an 8 port gigabit switch |
| 10:58.09 | dj_smilee|work | then you'll know for sure it can handle it :) |
| 10:58.37 | leipepo | cant get apache to start or restart, using the latest(stable) version of debian, i try to do it trough a terminal with su to root |
| 10:58.47 | fireba11 | dj_smilee|work ^^ |
| 10:58.48 | Shadowcat | gigabit is expen$ive :P |
| 10:59.10 | rlm | hello all how install java2-runtime on sarge 3.1? |
| 10:59.13 | fireba11 | leipepo: if you installed with apt-get it should already work |
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| 11:00.08 | leipepo | yeah i know, i'm not really a noob installing webservers, but the thing just wont fire up :-( |
| 11:00.10 | Jivco | 10x |
| 11:00.11 | dj_smilee|work | Shadowcat you can buy an 8 port gigabit switch for like 40 |
| 11:00.22 | stitch_x2 | apt-get is created in what language? |
| 11:00.26 | eps | rlm java.com |
| 11:00.34 | fireba11 | leipepo: then check symlinks in /etc/rc.d/ |
| 11:00.48 | Shadowcat | dj_smilee|work: not in this country |
| 11:00.55 | Shadowcat | here they're at $100 |
| 11:01.06 | dj_smilee|work | :< |
| 11:01.08 | Shadowcat | regular 8 port 10/100 are at around $40 |
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| 11:01.45 | fireba11 | Shadowcat: now that's expensive ^^ |
| 11:02.01 | rlm | eps, how install this via apt-get? |
| 11:02.14 | r3m | is there a website than explain the difference and the newname if changed between 2.4 and 2.6 of these files /etc/modprobe.d /etc/modules.conf /etc/modules /etc/init.d /etc/rc5.d, i want to have a better knowledge of this kind of thing |
| 11:02.19 | fireba11 | Shadowcat: think i paid 15 for my last one |
| 11:02.31 | Shadowcat | 15 is expensive |
| 11:02.58 | eps | rlm the bot in here usually has a simple answer to your question, but I can't remember how to access it |
| 11:03.05 | Shadowcat | the cNet 10/100 8port goes at 169 SEK |
| 11:03.06 | petemc | what currency is @? |
| 11:03.08 | fireba11 | Shadowcat: about 17 us $ |
| 11:03.15 | Shadowcat | the 10/100/1000 is at 800 SEK |
| 11:03.22 | Shadowcat | and for dollars you divide by around 8 |
| 11:03.44 | Shadowcat | ero by 9 |
| 11:03.50 | Shadowcat | euro* |
| 11:03.52 | r3m | Do IBM still sold OLD laptop? if yes somebody got the link? |
| 11:04.28 | fireba11 | r3m: english please ? :-) |
| 11:04.38 | jm_ | well you get cheap internet connections and pay more for switches, it's the reverse here :P |
| 11:04.45 | dj_smilee|work | oh your in sweden? |
| 11:04.54 | r3m | IBM sell old laptop? |
| 11:04.56 | jm_ | or opposite |
| 11:05.12 | Shadowcat | yes Internet is cheap here |
| 11:05.25 | Shadowcat | I got 100mbps to my home for about $50 |
| 11:05.42 | dj_smilee|work | damn swedes with your awesome internet |
| 11:05.42 | dj_smilee|work | :( |
| 11:05.58 | Shadowcat | hey send me a gigabit switch so that I can take advantage of it :P |
| 11:06.03 | dj_smilee|work | :P |
| 11:06.22 | novem | hey, can anyone help me setup x11vnc to run securely at gdm login? |
| 11:06.35 | r3m | I heard about a program that apt-get install the name you type in the shell if you dont get this, ie: i type xchat but xchat is not yet installed on my system |
| 11:06.43 | r3m | what is the name of this program please |
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| 11:07.09 | jm_ | auto-apt |
| 11:07.09 | fireba11 | Shadowcat: for 100$ i can get a 24-port GBit switch here :-D |
| 11:07.18 | r3m | jm_, thanks |
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| 11:07.20 | Shadowcat | oh shush :P |
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| 11:08.30 | jm_ | $100 for 8-port gigabit switch here (Netgear) |
| 11:08.52 | Shadowcat | jm_: that sounds about right |
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| 11:10.23 | leipepo | hmmzz i dont know maybe its the command i'm using |
| 11:10.46 | karsten | jm_: My read is that the grub package grub-install script is broken. |
| 11:10.54 | karsten | jm_: It sets some parameters but doesn't use them. |
| 11:10.56 | leipepo | ./etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 11:11.01 | leipepo | without the . |
| 11:11.14 | jm_ | karsten: does it call /sbin/grub with --no-floppy? |
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| 11:11.40 | karsten | jm_: No. |
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| 11:11.49 | leipepo | whahaha |
| 11:11.54 | leipepo | think ife gotr it |
| 11:11.58 | leipepo | hold on... |
| 11:12.00 | karsten | jm_: It sets a "no-floppy" variable, but doesn't reference it. |
| 11:12.27 | karsten | jm_: Wait... |
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| 11:12.51 | leipepo | Forcing reload of web server: Apache2 ... failed! |
| 11:12.51 | leipepo | You may still have some apache2 processes running. There are |
| 11:12.51 | leipepo | processes named 'apache2' which do not match your pid file, |
| 11:12.52 | leipepo | and in the name of safety, we've left them alone. Please review |
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| 11:12.52 | jm_ | karsten: it does |
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| 11:12.59 | karsten | jm_: Yeah, wait... |
| 11:13.13 | karsten | jm_: grub itself w/ --no-floppy works properly. |
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| 11:13.56 | _MiTo_ | http://www.davidickeforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22807 |
| 11:13.59 | _MiTo_ | :) |
| 11:14.34 | jm_ | karsten: sh -x it maybe |
| 11:14.48 | novem | can anyone help me , im trying to start x11vnc at the gdm log in screen? how would i go about doing this, any good docs? |
| 11:14.55 | karsten | jm_: Yeah. |
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| 11:15.45 | novem | the problem is it has to be started before gdm starts, and has to stay running? |
| 11:15.50 | karsten | jm_: + //sbin/grub --batch --no-floppy --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map |
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| 11:15.58 | karsten | jm_: ... is the generated line. And that's probing. |
| 11:16.03 | vasi | nekoi administrator online ? |
| 11:16.42 | jm_ | karsten: ahh that's to generate device.map file |
| 11:16.47 | karsten | jm_: Yeah. |
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| 11:17.27 | vasi | bg? |
| 11:17.27 | liable | _MiTo_: dont spam the channel with useless shit |
| 11:17.50 | karsten | jm_: Hrm. Apparently if the existing device map has a floppy entry, grub will probe the floppy. |
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| 11:18.37 | Sinuc | startkeylogger DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 |
| 11:18.41 | Sinuc | hu |
| 11:18.45 | Sinuc | dont use such device ! |
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| 11:19.12 | jm_ | karsten: yeah, I suppose --no-floppy doesn't apply to probing |
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| 11:19.51 | karsten | What generates the whatis file? makewhatis? Um. apropos stuff. |
| 11:20.31 | jm_ | GRUB code doesn't agree with me though |
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| 11:21.34 | coolsail | 我上课了，你们慢聊哈。 |
| 11:21.34 | leipepo | hmmz got it working again :-D |
| 11:21.55 | leipepo | forgot to uncomment </directory> silly me |
| 11:22.13 | Shadowcat | coolsail: why are you typing Chinese? |
| 11:22.25 | karsten | coolsail: English please |
| 11:22.40 | coolsail | i 'm sorry ,but how do you know that's chinese ? |
| 11:22.41 | daymoon | coolsail: or czech please ;-) |
| 11:22.57 | leipepo | dutch is fine to ;-) |
| 11:22.58 | Shadowcat | coolsail: because I happen to have asian fonts installed |
| 11:23.09 | Shadowcat | and that definately looks like Chinese |
| 11:23.33 | coolsail | and you 're right. |
| 11:23.48 | coolsail | :),a clever man |
| 11:24.14 | coolsail | i just mean ,i have to go to class tonight. |
| 11:24.21 | Shadowcat | I don't think most people in here even have the fonts to understand that |
| 11:24.29 | coolsail | so i have to go . |
| 11:24.31 | Shadowcat | if you don't it just shows up as a bunch of jubberish |
| 11:24.36 | Shadowcat | jibberish* |
| 11:24.59 | liable | question marks for me. |
| 11:25.10 | coolsail | what's the meaning of jubberish |
| 11:25.26 | liable | coolsail: cant make sense of it |
| 11:26.01 | coolsail | ok ,thank you for telling me. |
| 11:26.12 | Gnea | coolsail: you think that people not from china don't know what's up? |
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| 11:26.21 | coolsail | so goodbye to all. |
| 11:26.30 | sep | how can i remove a package without invoking the prerm script ? |
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| 11:27.02 | azeem | sep: move aways the prerm script, e.g. |
| 11:27.07 | azeem | s/aways/away/ |
| 11:28.55 | Gnea | apt-get remove <package? |
| 11:28.58 | Gnea | apt-get remove <package> |
| 11:29.09 | sep | azeem, humm how damn obvious :) thanks |
| 11:29.28 | sep | Gnea, failes becouse the prerm script failes |
| 11:29.36 | azeem | sep: is this on stable? |
| 11:29.47 | sep | azeem, yes |
| 11:30.05 | sep | azeem, but it failes becouse it can't rm something that's a dir |
| 11:30.58 | Gnea | sep: what's the error? |
| 11:31.11 | Gnea | sep: tried dpkg -r? |
| 11:31.38 | azeem | sep: yeah, please paste the error and check the bts |
| 11:31.38 | azeem | !bts |
| 11:31.39 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 11:31.50 | Gnea | !paste |
| 11:31.52 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 11:32.23 | sep | rm: cannot remove `/opt/ltsp/i386/mnt': Is a directory |
| 11:32.33 | sep | you can live with 1 line paste can't you ? :) |
| 11:32.37 | Gnea | of course |
| 11:32.48 | Gnea | have you looked at the --force-* options? |
| 11:32.56 | sep | Gnea, tried force-all |
| 11:33.19 | sep | there is no force prerm success afaik |
| 11:33.34 | Gnea | sep: sounds like a bug with the script trying to remove a directory with 'remove file' |
| 11:33.47 | sep | but the thing is i have populated /opt/ltsp/i386 myself. |
| 11:34.02 | sep | should it still succeed in removeing the package ? |
| 11:34.11 | Gnea | that doesn't sound right.. what's the package and branch? |
| 11:34.30 | Gnea | no, because you can't rm a dir but you can rm -rf a dir |
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| 11:35.50 | sep | humm.... nevermind it's offtopic in this channel the package is actualy from the debian-edu repo. it's ltsp-core-i386 |
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| 11:36.06 | Gnea | how's that offtopic? |
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| 11:36.21 | azeem | sep: you should see how to file a bug report for debian-edu then |
| 11:36.23 | sep | it belonges in #debian-edu :) |
| 11:36.32 | Gnea | :) |
| 11:37.14 | sep | i thougt the ltsp-* packeges was in sarge now. :) |
| 11:38.18 | Gnea | no worries, good luck |
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| 11:43.21 | Thanatermesis | how to delete the MBR ? |
| 11:43.34 | sep | !mbr |
| 11:43.34 | dpkg | rumour has it, mbr is the Master Boot Record, the first bit of code loaded from the hard drive when a PC boots. to install a clean MBR (e.g. to get rid of lilo if it is in the mbr) from DOS one can run "fdisk /mbr"; from linux "install-mbr /dev/hda" |
| 11:44.04 | Thanatermesis | i don't look any thing of how to delete it :/ |
| 11:44.13 | Thanatermesis | in windows is "fdisk /mbr" but in linux ? |
| 11:45.03 | liable | Thanatermesis: you just overwrite it. |
| 11:45.51 | Thanatermesis | yes liable, but i want to delete it for look if the installer installs it correctly, if not installs it correctly it boots also, because use the same bmr |
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| 11:47.24 | liable | dd i guess if yopu really want to |
| 11:47.58 | Thanatermesis | uh... "remove mbr linux" in google send me directly to "support.microsoft.com" :S |
| 11:48.07 | liable | haha |
| 11:48.08 | leipepo | anyone want to help me adding a virtual host in apache2? |
| 11:49.15 | liable | dd of=/dev/random if=/dev/hda count=1 bs=512 ?? |
| 11:49.17 | leipepo | the onley thing i must know is were to add it |
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| 11:49.25 | leipepo | the rest i can figure out |
| 11:49.35 | SlayerXP | leipepo: in a file of its own in /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 11:49.53 | Thanatermesis | i test dd... |
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| 11:50.07 | liable | leipepo: theres an example in the .conf, also see /usr/share/doc/apache |
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| 11:50.29 | bojbss | leipepo: a2ensite will help too |
| 11:50.38 | Thanatermesis | with "random" ? hehe, with a little of chance you obtain a beautiful boot :) with very less posibilities but maybe lol |
| 11:50.39 | liable | oh, sorry, didnt see the 2 .. |
| 11:50.43 | leipepo | i went to the documentation, the onley thing it didnt say(or i didnt found) was were to add it |
| 11:50.52 | sherdog | Good afternoon gents. When installing debian, do u need more than cd1 for starters? |
| 11:51.06 | liable | nope |
| 11:51.28 | Fox | leipepo: create the file in site-available then use 'a2ensite' to enable le vhost |
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| 11:52.04 | eckberci | hello! |
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| 11:52.37 | eckberci | Mi a helyzet? |
| 11:53.02 | sherdog | Kubuntu/ubuntu/debian is basicly the same, right? I mean except for the GUI u can do the same with all 3, right? |
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| 11:53.56 | airox | Yep, it's all linux. |
| 11:53.58 | lord_rob | I can't activate swap "swapon /dev/sda6". I get invalid swap signature. However, just checked with cfdisk and sda6 is a swap partition. What's wrong here ? |
| 11:54.00 | liable | sherdog: pretty much, except you cant get help for ubuntu here.. :) |
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| 11:54.15 | Gnea | lord_rob: did it get formatted? |
| 11:54.19 | sherdog | Hehe, i know mate.. :) |
| 11:54.19 | vulture | lord_rob: it's flagged as swap, doesn't mean it's formatted as such |
| 11:54.27 | lord_rob | ah yes |
| 11:54.32 | vulture | look a magical program called "mkswap".. |
| 11:54.38 | Gnea | mkswap /dev/sda6 |
| 11:54.41 | lord_rob | what's the command to format the partition ? |
| 11:54.46 | lord_rob | thanks Gnea |
| 11:54.48 | Gnea | np |
| 11:55.12 | sherdog | I want to use debian, but im gonna start with ubuntu/kubuntu. So I just wanted to check liable :) |
| 11:55.22 | liable | no problem. |
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| 11:55.28 | sherdog | ty ;) |
| 11:55.41 | incorrect | what is the best tool these days for viewing a CVS repository, is it still cvsweb? |
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| 11:56.24 | Thanatermesis | fixed with dd, thx :) |
| 11:56.40 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 11:56.40 | dpkg | <toggle> by the way I don't have man installed.. |
| 11:56.58 | liable | Thanatermesis: yw |
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| 11:58.49 | r3m | where to download enemy territory |
| 11:58.54 | incorrect | lol |
| 11:59.01 | incorrect | google knows |
| 11:59.26 | Gnea | !warez |
| 11:59.26 | dpkg | warez is probably what GNU/Linux people do not need to run their computers and talk about in mundane ubergeek parties. http://www.little-gamers.com/index.php?id=275 or http://www.blerp.org/warez/ |
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| 12:02.28 | lord_rob | hi again, I have another problem : when I log out from KDE then choose shut down or reboot, the PC freezes. Same if I choose log out (which should go back to the kdm login screen). Any idea why ? |
| 12:02.55 | lord_rob | I have a thinkpad r52 |
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| 12:03.21 | lord_rob | kernel 2.6.15 sata acpi |
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| 12:07.03 | dutch_ | !xserver |
| 12:07.20 | raf256` | why krusader in debian is totally fucked up> |
| 12:07.23 | dutch_ | Hey. |
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| 12:07.40 | raf256` | and is ther some other twin-tab file manager, with remote ftp/sftp connections? |
| 12:07.58 | dutch_ | How do you get dpkg to tell you about xserver-xfree86? |
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| 12:08.02 | dutch_ | I'm still having problems. |
| 12:08.07 | dutch_ | It helped me last time. |
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| 12:08.27 | westgate_ | hi |
| 12:08.49 | westgate_ | salam |
| 12:08.53 | PusherRec | can anyone help me, im trying to start x11vnc through ssh and im getting x connection to localhost:10.0 broken(explicit kill or server shutdown), what oculd cause this? |
| 12:08.54 | westgate_ | kia hall hai |
| 12:08.57 | westgate_ | app ka |
| 12:09.02 | westgate_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:09.07 | westgate_ | and you |
| 12:09.16 | liable | dutch_: what do you want to know? |
| 12:09.29 | dutch_ | The command to reconfigure xfree86 -- |
| 12:09.33 | dutch_ | Max resolution is 800x600 |
| 12:09.36 | liable | !drxx dutch_ |
| 12:09.36 | dpkg | dutch_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 12:09.40 | dutch_ | Thanks. |
| 12:09.42 | dutch_ | That's it. |
| 12:09.45 | dutch_ | FUCK I was close. ;) |
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| 12:10.33 | Sonny | hi, I just installed etch... and when it's booting it says somethjing about the maintenance shell and ask me to press CONTROL+D, how to fix these problem? I heard that I have to update a package |
| 12:11.14 | eps | Sonny more details? |
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| 12:11.28 | eps | normally the maintenance shell will give you basic instructions on what to do? |
| 12:11.49 | HulluHuutaja | hi. i`m trying to compile imlib2 and as i type "make" i got error: can`t be done(?) without -force_cpu_subtype_ALL option. what should i do next? |
| 12:12.46 | Sonny | eps: "In order to exit from the maintenance shell, press CONTROL+D and the system will REBOOT. Give root password for maintenance (or type CONTROL+D to continue) |
| 12:12.55 | liable | HulluHuutaja: generally, if you google the exact compile error you come up with a fix. |
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| 12:13.30 | stpeter | hi |
| 12:13.37 | dutch_ | Thanks Liable. |
| 12:13.37 | dutch_ | you got it. |
| 12:13.38 | HulluHuutaja | i tried without any hits... maybe i do it again |
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| 12:13.47 | vin` | if you don't find the right fix, you're probably doing something unnecessary. |
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| 12:14.10 | Sonny | eps: above that: "An automatic fsck upon the root filesystem failed. A manual fsck must be performed, and the system rebooted. This fsck can be performed in maintnance mode. |
| 12:14.32 | vin` | Sonny: is this a fresh install? |
| 12:14.38 | Sonny | eps, I had this problem before... i just update a pkg and solved it.,.. i dont remember the pkg |
| 12:14.40 | madona | hi, what program culd I use to get a file without the first n lines ? |
| 12:14.50 | eps | Sonny that was what I was after :) |
| 12:14.51 | Sonny | vin`: yep |
| 12:15.03 | jm_ | madona: sed, awk, perl, ... |
| 12:15.09 | madona | ok |
| 12:15.13 | eps | Sonny when you run a fsck of your primary partition (/) it should stop that coming up |
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| 12:15.26 | eps | eg fsck /dev/hda1 |
| 12:16.25 | Terminus | hello. question, will the autoconfiguration of w3c-markup-validator work with apache2 or just apache1.3? |
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| 12:16.54 | _spOOn_ | could someone just clarify something for me please |
| 12:17.11 | _spOOn_ | is xorg just the new version of xfree? |
| 12:17.19 | _spOOn_ | or am i way off base? |
| 12:17.33 | jm_ | _spOOn_: the initial version was, but now it has some enhancements as well |
| 12:17.44 | vin` | _spOOn_: fork, license screw-up. |
| 12:18.07 | _spOOn_ | so if i have xorg i shouldnt need xfree any more? |
| 12:18.18 | jm_ | correct, Debian won't let you install both |
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| 12:18.40 | _spOOn_ | it still installs xserver-xfree86 and xserver-xorg |
| 12:18.53 | _spOOn_ | which is where my confusion was coming from... |
| 12:19.00 | jm_ | xserver-xfree86 is just a transitional package |
| 12:19.06 | jm_ | read the description for it |
| 12:19.21 | _spOOn_ | okies, *reading* |
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| 12:19.43 | Gnea | _spOOn_: debian WILL let you install both, you just can't USE both at the same time |
| 12:19.50 | Gnea | actually... |
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| 12:20.05 | jm_ | no it won't |
| 12:20.08 | Gnea | i could be wrong on that second half |
| 12:20.08 | liable | Gnea: arent there conflicts? |
| 12:20.15 | Gnea | jm_: prove it. |
| 12:20.39 | jm_ | Gnea: xserver-xfree86 depends on xserver-xorg |
| 12:20.40 | _spOOn_ | testing (x11): transitional package for moving from xfree86 to X.Org |
| 12:20.40 | Gnea | liable: nope, you can install the xserver packages as _spOOn_ said, then a reconfigure to tell debian which xserver to use |
| 12:20.57 | liable | !depends xserver-xorg |
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| 12:21.08 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: depends on xserver-common (>= 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4), libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2), libxau6, libxdmcp6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0 |
| 12:21.20 | jm_ | the other way arround |
| 12:21.22 | Gnea | oh ok |
| 12:21.25 | jm_ | !depends xserver-xfree86 |
| 12:21.28 | liable | grr, i want the conflicts! |
| 12:21.31 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: depends on xserver-xorg |
| 12:21.32 | _spOOn_ | okies, so i have xserver-sfree installed to allow for some older components to continue to work? |
| 12:21.32 | Gnea | lol |
| 12:21.49 | Gnea | _spOOn_: what older components? |
| 12:21.59 | jm_ | liable: conflicts command |
| 12:22.18 | jm_ | !conflicts xserver-xorg |
| 12:22.19 | liable | oh, i didnt know dpkg had that one too. |
| 12:22.25 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: xlibs (<< 6.8.2.dfsg.1-5), xserver-xfree86 (<< 6.8.2.dfsg.1-1), nvidia-glx (<= 1.0.7174-4) |
| 12:22.31 | jm_ | there, you were right, it has a conflict |
| 12:22.42 | jm_ | but only on the transitional package anyway |
| 12:22.52 | _spOOn_ | not sure? just dont know why i would need a transitional package? thought i would just move from one to the other? is this not correct? |
| 12:23.01 | liable | only less than, though i suppose greater than that is the transitional. |
| 12:23.15 | jm_ | _spOOn_: all is fine, don't worry about it |
| 12:23.20 | _spOOn_ | okeis |
| 12:23.32 | _spOOn_ | so i dont need xserver-xfree :) |
| 12:23.42 | jm_ | it's because some packages may still depend on xserver-xfree86 and this eases the transition |
| 12:24.01 | jm_ | you can try uninstalling it if it really bothers you that much, but it may remove some stuff with it |
| 12:24.01 | _spOOn_ | thats what a was trying to say, but it came out all wrong |
| 12:24.03 | _spOOn_ | my bad |
| 12:24.08 | _spOOn_ | sorry, and thanks for the help |
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| 12:35.41 | fireba11 | it's oh so quiet :-) |
| 12:36.06 | UdontKnow | dont ruin the quietness. shhhhh :P |
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| 12:38.40 | CcSsNET | not so quiet anymore now huh haha |
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| 12:40.03 | CcSsNET | it was a ply wood floor |
| 12:40.08 | Sonny | do you know why do I receive this output trying to start the X: "failed to initialize core devices xorg" |
| 12:40.09 | CcSsNET | "gettoish" |
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| 12:40.43 | alphaKid | I will sarge install in dell d510 with linux26 but cannot read my partisi there is which can assist? |
| 12:40.46 | Gnea | "ghettoish"? |
| 12:40.49 | vin` | Sonny: checked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 12:41.03 | Gnea | alphaKid: laptop? |
| 12:41.08 | alphaKid | ya |
| 12:41.09 | CcSsNET | na to lazy to type the whole word |
| 12:41.13 | Gnea | !laptop |
| 12:41.13 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org , and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
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| 12:41.32 | alphaKid | Gnea, thanks |
| 12:41.37 | Gnea | np |
| 12:41.53 | CcSsNET | see that i woke everyone up |
| 12:42.00 | CcSsNET | and there all eager to research |
| 12:42.04 | Gnea | keep thinkin' that... |
| 12:42.11 | CcSsNET | haha |
| 12:42.14 | Gnea | ;) |
| 12:42.21 | CcSsNET | someones in a good mood lol |
| 12:42.34 | Gnea | there is a void in my stomach |
| 12:42.42 | CcSsNET | yea me 2 |
| 12:42.44 | CcSsNET | :/ |
| 12:42.48 | Gnea | it's crying out |
| 12:42.53 | Gnea | GARGLE |
| 12:42.57 | Gnea | :) |
| 12:42.58 | liable | fill it with beer |
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| 12:43.05 | Gnea | now that's a good idea |
| 12:43.08 | faber2 | hi everybody |
| 12:43.10 | faber2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:43.12 | CcSsNET | i just thought of something |
| 12:43.12 | Gnea | except, i have to be to work in a few hours |
| 12:43.12 | DevilChaos | hi i have a quick question i downloaded all the metalica albums from a torrent the other day took ages and when it was finished i tried to play one of the songs and it keeps saying there of the wrong type ie they are labeled .mp3 but are text files something went wrong i think aanyway wondering if i did wrong or ....? |
| 12:43.18 | CcSsNET | i have a 12 pack at home |
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| 12:43.28 | DevilChaos | iv already asked in #bittorrent |
| 12:43.28 | CcSsNET | and i get out of work in a half hour |
| 12:43.30 | CcSsNET | ^.^ |
| 12:43.36 | Gnea | asshat. |
| 12:43.37 | Gnea | :P |
| 12:43.38 | DevilChaos | anyone here help? |
| 12:43.41 | CcSsNET | haha |
| 12:43.58 | Gnea | DevilChaos: you got owned. |
| 12:44.03 | DevilChaos | ? |
| 12:44.16 | DevilChaos | whats owned? |
| 12:44.22 | CcSsNET | DevilChaos, either they didnt finish completely or you had a bad torrent |
| 12:44.22 | Gnea | DevilChaos: did you run them through a virus scanner? |
| 12:44.31 | ootput | hi guys, is there a set-order to installing selinux and it's management scripts? |
| 12:44.32 | CcSsNET | yea try that ^ also |
| 12:44.40 | DevilChaos | not that i know of |
| 12:44.42 | Sonny | vin`: yep the keyboard is the problem.... but its well configured |
| 12:44.48 | petemc | DevilChaos: this isnt a warez support channel, its for debian linux |
| 12:44.53 | Gnea | DevilChaos: you should do that |
| 12:44.58 | DevilChaos | ok |
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| 12:45.25 | CcSsNET | try comparing time lengths to the actual albulm also |
| 12:45.27 | Gnea | !selinux |
| 12:45.27 | dpkg | [selinux] NSA's port to Linux of the FLASK security Architectur, called Security Enhanced Linux. Also it can make your system unbootable if you uninstall it. http://selinux.sourceforge.net/distros/debian.php3 |
| 12:45.34 | DevilChaos | petemc : i know this but run debian and like the people here and are very helpfull like gnea :) |
| 12:45.37 | CcSsNET | give or take 2-3 seconds per song is ok |
| 12:45.47 | epsilon | DevilChaos: try #mp3zzzzzz on IRC-server 127.0.0.1 port 6667 |
| 12:45.58 | CcSsNET | lol |
| 12:46.08 | vin` | Sonny: what is the exact error message? grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you. |
| 12:46.21 | Sonny | ok |
| 12:46.58 | vin` | ouch I'm hungry. |
| 12:47.01 | CcSsNET | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:47.12 | Gnea | hehe |
| 12:47.15 | Sonny | vin`: there are 3 (EE) |
| 12:47.33 | petemc | Gnea: personally ive no issues with stealing stuff from the internet, it os off topic for here tho |
| 12:47.38 | petemc | s/os/is/ |
| 12:48.58 | Gnea | petemc: i see it like this: you can torment someone and start an argument that will waste everyone's time and get everyone aggrivated, or you can just give a simple solution that may not be an end-all solution and they'll just go away |
| 12:49.41 | petemc | Gnea: until they have some problem unraring the latest version of norton anti virus, when they come back heer and ask more daft questions |
| 12:49.45 | Gnea | now, fingernail clippings may have certain reprecussions, though :) |
| 12:49.49 | CcSsNET | :) |
| 12:50.19 | Gnea | petemc: that's when you start reading email ;) |
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| 12:52.53 | silvestre | aew povoblz? |
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| 12:53.12 | yangx | Is there a way to get into compaq scsi server BIOS without a floppy? |
| 12:53.14 | GaiaXorg11__ | How do I change auto fsck to less than 30 times default? |
| 12:53.24 | azeem | tune2fs I think |
| 12:53.24 | jm_ | GaiaXorg11: man tune2fs |
| 12:53.25 | Gnea | !br |
| 12:53.25 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 12:53.51 | Gnea | yangx: good question, i think via cdrom - what model is it? |
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| 12:54.05 | yangx | Gnea: its a 1999 proliant 1600 |
| 12:54.06 | silvestre | oi |
| 12:54.22 | Gnea | yangx: shit, i've got one of those sitting right here :D |
| 12:54.28 | silvestre | hi |
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| 12:54.46 | silvestre | carai ta lenha |
| 12:54.53 | azeem | silvestre: this is an english channel |
| 12:54.54 | azeem | !br |
| 12:54.54 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 12:55.33 | yangx | Gnea: i have trouble with memory 2x128mb are inside, but bios says nonvolatile memory 16mb only...linux recognised 256mb, but the eth0 interface falls off at some random time, and complains about memory error (NDI/NVI) |
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| 12:56.14 | Gnea | yangx: ouch, did you just get this system or is it only experiencing this problem recently? |
| 12:56.30 | yangx | Gnea: do you think getting a bios floppies from compaq site, would solve the trouble (memory should be set again properly) |
| 12:56.56 | yangx | Gnea: the bios somehow "reseted" WHEN I traNSPORTED the server around |
| 12:57.04 | Gnea | yangx: it might... i'm looking for some cdrom to fix mine (the RAID array seems to be broken) |
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| 12:57.20 | Gnea | yangx: ah.. yeah, it's very sensitive... |
| 12:57.26 | Gnea | yangx: does yours havae one or 2 cpus? |
| 12:57.40 | yangx | Gnea: it has 2x cpu slots but i only have 1x400mhz |
| 12:57.54 | Gnea | yangx: same here, 1x500mhz |
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| 12:58.11 | Gnea | yangx: memory is 1x128, 2x64 |
| 12:58.22 | yangx | Gnea: i dont think its worth the trouble of getting an used CPU for this old box:) |
| 12:58.36 | Gnea | yangx: did you check the mem modules? are they authentic compaq? |
| 12:58.51 | Gnea | yangx: well you could max it out and sell it :) |
| 12:59.04 | yangx | Gnea: yeah they are compaqs, and before bios recognised 256 well, it recently reseted |
| 12:59.30 | yangx | Gnea: i had an add for half a year, nobody wanted it |
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| 12:59.48 | liable | ffs, stop doing that, whoever it is.. |
| 12:59.59 | Gnea | yangx: how much were you asking? |
| 13:00.08 | Gnea | liable: what? |
| 13:00.12 | yangx | Gnea: 200 euro :) |
| 13:00.26 | liable | Gnea: wrong window :) |
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| 13:01.14 | silvestre | ei |
| 13:01.20 | ootput | can any of you help me with selinux usage on debian sid? |
| 13:01.24 | yangx | Gnea: so it doesnt have any alt+key to enter bios? |
| 13:01.25 | ootput | in particular, when using selinux-source package, and the appropriate kernel options: is there a set order for other selinux-* apps that are to be installed? |
| 13:01.25 | silvestre | ei |
| 13:01.30 | Gnea | yangx: lol, you ask too much |
| 13:01.58 | yangx | Gnea: its a great server if it works... |
| 13:02.00 | jm_ | yangx: uhm it does |
| 13:02.09 | Gnea | yangx: you would be lucky to get 60 euros |
| 13:02.46 | yangx | Gnea: i wanted to sell it becouse it only has one UTP slot by default, but i recently inserted another PCI card and now i can have a router |
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| 13:03.14 | yangx | jm_: which? i tried every F1-12 keys |
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| 13:03.25 | jm_ | yangx: wait, I have 1700 here |
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| 13:03.35 | Gnea | jm_: on a proliant 1600? |
| 13:03.56 | Gnea | http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/ProLiant1600/index5.html |
| 13:04.13 | yangx | Gnea: i will save the link for later |
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| 13:05.22 | hackeron | anyone had a fuzzy picture issue when using DVI with an nvidia 6800 and knows how to fix it? |
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| 13:05.48 | vin` | ootput: looked here? http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux |
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| 13:07.10 | Gnea | yangx: http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/9343.html seems to have an updated bios, checking it out |
| 13:07.15 | NET||abuse | hmm, i need to get mysql-client-5.0 ,, only 4.1 is listed, is there a deb i could add to get that? |
| 13:07.20 | jm_ | yangx: I lied, it's PowerEdge 1300 |
| 13:07.43 | jm_ | but it does say F2 = BIOS in top right corner |
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| 13:08.24 | Gnea | jm_: yeah, this proliant series doesn't have that option |
| 13:08.24 | tziku | hello, how can i change this message: -bash: hfd: command not found ? |
| 13:08.39 | azeem | tziku: where do you get it from? |
| 13:08.56 | tziku | if i write a wrong command i want to change the message. |
| 13:09.15 | tziku | i give an example with a random (invalid) command: "hfd" |
| 13:09.24 | azeem | tziku: what do you want instead? |
| 13:09.30 | jm_ | Gnea: in that case it's not worth even those 60EUR :P |
| 13:09.45 | tziku | i want to translate in my language. |
| 13:09.53 | azeem | tziku: are other error messages translated? |
| 13:10.00 | Gnea | jm_: ROFL |
| 13:10.03 | tziku | no...i will try to translate all. |
| 13:10.05 | azeem | tziku: did you set the LANG environment variable? |
| 13:10.10 | azeem | tziku: what language are you in? |
| 13:10.21 | tziku | no...i don't want to change variables. |
| 13:10.24 | tziku | romanian. |
| 13:10.26 | azeem | tziku: try dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 13:10.55 | azeem | tziku: it likely is translated already, you just need to setup your system for romanian I guess |
| 13:11.02 | qufert | can someone helo me figure out why my sound dosent work |
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| 13:11.37 | nkuttler | qufert: did you try the faq yet? |
| 13:11.38 | qufert | I have a dell precision with intel onboard sound |
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| 13:11.53 | liable | qufert: what ave you found out so far? |
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| 13:13.04 | tziku | how can i restrict for users (not for root) some commands like: ftp , wget ... |
| 13:13.17 | azeem | tziku: you cannot, really |
| 13:13.18 | tziku | dpkg...commands...and a lot.. |
| 13:13.21 | Gnea | !tell tziku about newbie_guide |
| 13:13.32 | tehhh | how can i exclude a package from upgrading (e.g. i don't want to upgrade my postfix-* packages), what's the proper way? |
| 13:13.42 | azeem | tehhh: set it on hold |
| 13:13.42 | azeem | !hold |
| 13:13.43 | dpkg | hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' |
| 13:14.07 | tehhh | thanks azeem |
| 13:14.21 | NET||abuse | does anyone know if i can get mysql-client-5.0 instead of just 4.1 from a deb with apt? |
| 13:14.22 | qufert | nkuttler, liable - I am running testing, 2.6.12 and ran discover |
| 13:14.48 | liable | !hold is also or if you use aptitude, 'aptitude hold foo' |
| 13:15.08 | tziku | I can't change with chmod (in /usr/bin ) ? to be usseble only from root ? |
| 13:15.09 | azeem | NET||abuse: are you running sarge/stable? |
| 13:15.10 | liable | wtf |
| 13:15.20 | NET||abuse | azeem: i think so |
| 13:15.26 | NET||abuse | azeem: yeh, pretty sure i am |
| 13:15.30 | azeem | tziku: the users could still just compile it themselves, or copy it over from somewhere else and run it |
| 13:15.37 | azeem | NET||abuse: see http://www.backports.org |
| 13:15.42 | NET||abuse | azeem: installed a few weeks ago so wasn't sure if i was |
| 13:15.44 | azeem | I think it's on there for sarge |
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| 13:16.45 | tziku | thanks azeem :) good ideea i will copy all in /root :) and i leave there anly i want :) and from root i will use /root/command :) i understand wright ? |
| 13:16.57 | azeem | tziku: uhhh |
| 13:17.04 | azeem | tziku: why exactly do you want to restrict this? |
| 13:17.05 | tziku | :( my eng :( |
| 13:17.20 | tehhh | wannabe shell provider ;-) |
| 13:17.34 | azeem | tziku: if your users are clever enough to run those commands, they will be clever enough to circumvent you, I guess |
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| 13:17.39 | tziku | i have an old computer...and i make debian little server...i give acces to all my friends :D |
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| 13:17.54 | tehhh | close:) |
| 13:18.10 | tziku | thanks :) buh bye |
| 13:18.12 | yangx | Gnea: did you find the right bios utilities? |
| 13:18.13 | Gnea | haha, i made a little debian server once |
| 13:18.20 | Gnea | and i gave access to my 'friends' :P |
| 13:18.25 | yangx | Gnea: i dont have a floppy here otherwise i could try |
| 13:18.38 | Gnea | yangx: still working on it.. gotta get some food |
| 13:18.44 | Sonny | hi, I cant load the X i receive the following output: unable to find a framebuffer device |
| 13:19.35 | _winner | Hello friends.. what one mean by the size of kernel ? is it the size of vmlinuz in /boot. or what ? any comments |
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| 13:21.06 | yangx | Gnea: Gnea is it SP15911.exe ? |
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| 13:21.21 | yangx | Gnea: hmm how is that gonna boot? |
| 13:21.32 | qufert | liable, i added my user to audio group, did discover, made sure volume is up, dont know what else to do |
| 13:21.45 | Gnea | yangx: read |
| 13:21.50 | boguh | hi, how can i make a ssh tunnel over a gateway so that i can reach the cvs server from my local machine |
| 13:22.28 | yangx | Gnea: i have lynx, cant see very much with it |
| 13:22.32 | liable | qufert: your alsa sound modules are loaded? did discover? did you try alsaconf? |
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| 13:22.51 | valdyn | boguh: have you read the ssh manpage? |
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| 13:23.23 | boguh | valdyn yes |
| 13:23.52 | DragonWings | I'm trying to install debian on a compaq armada laptop using debian-31-r1a-i386-netinst and I get this error |
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| 13:24.20 | DragonWings | MProces /sbin/debian-installer (pid XXX) exited |
| 13:24.21 | qufert | liable, I have these modules loaded, "snd" and "soundcore" |
| 13:24.27 | Gnea | yangx: basically you have to run it in windows with a blank floppy in the drive |
| 13:24.39 | DragonWings | how can I solve it? |
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| 13:24.50 | liable | qufert: did you run alsaconf? |
| 13:25.12 | Gnea | !tell DragonWings about laptop |
| 13:25.14 | jm_ | DragonWings: check other consoles for more hints |
| 13:25.27 | valdyn | boguh: run this command on your local box : ssh -R cvsport:cvsserver:cvsport username@gateway ( if the cvsport is a privileged oen you have to use a different port or use root to create the tunnel |
| 13:25.27 | dn4 | potentially useful fact, if you take Radiant and spell it back wards it spells out TnA - I - Dar !! |
| 13:25.36 | qufert | liable, i dont have that program |
| 13:25.56 | liable | qufert: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils |
| 13:25.58 | DragonWings | I checked other consoles already |
| 13:26.21 | valdyn | boguh: note though that the 'ssh tunnel part in this is quite pointless but its doing port forwarding for you, which is what you want i guess' |
| 13:26.30 | dn4 | Another potentially useful fact which deals with my first name, If you take the name Andrew and spell this backwards you get WE_R_DNA. |
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| 13:27.17 | liable | dn4: why the hell are you telling us this? score some good crack tonight? :P |
| 13:27.21 | qufert | liable, would NOT having alsa-base be causing the sound to not work |
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| 13:27.31 | yangx | Gnea: so there is no way that i could copy that .exe file in my debian box? |
| 13:27.39 | yangx | Gnea: up on floppy |
| 13:27.40 | liable | qufert: err, yes. if you want to use alsa. |
| 13:27.54 | yangx | Gnea: just found one now |
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| 13:27.57 | jobezone | liable, wasn't alsa support in linux now? |
| 13:28.22 | jm_ | jobezone: you still need the libs and some tools |
| 13:28.27 | boguh | valdyn almost, ich have to contact through a gateway |
| 13:28.28 | dn4 | liable, I just woke up and am having my cup of coffee, if by crack you mean dreams of the ether then by all means I have scored larger than any known score to man. |
| 13:28.40 | ootput | do module options go into /etc/modules.conf (specifically the realtime module) |
| 13:28.49 | valdyn | boguh: yes sure, thats what that line i gave does... |
| 13:28.54 | Gnea | yangx: it needs to extract TO a floppy |
| 13:29.03 | Gnea | yangx: you MIGHT be able to do it with wine... not sure |
| 13:29.08 | liable | dn4: i suggest you have weaker coffe in the mornings :) |
| 13:29.11 | jobezone | My sound came out fine when I installed etch fresh a week ago, and didn't have alsa-base or alsa-utils installed. But I installed them eventually. |
| 13:29.24 | yangx | Gnea: oh bad luck |
| 13:29.31 | dn4 | ^_^ |
| 13:29.32 | Gnea | yangx: hold on.. |
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| 13:29.55 | yangx | Gnea: maybe you could extract it and copy and tar the files and send me? |
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| 13:31.22 | Gnea | yangx: might be able to |
| 13:31.25 | boguh | valdyn but why cant i just do ping "destinationhost"? |
| 13:31.29 | qufert | liable, awesome you got me working! alsaconf did it for me. I am confused though...does testing support both OSS and ALSA, what is installed by default? |
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| 13:31.50 | yangx | Gnea: you got the time now? so i could try it ASAP |
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| 13:32.01 | valdyn | boguh: why should ssh tunnls have got anything to do with pinging a host? |
| 13:32.21 | dn4 | Does anyone know if there is a script/plug-in for irc so that it can read off each person's text in a synthized voice? |
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| 13:32.24 | Gnea | yangx: it's going to take some time |
| 13:32.27 | valdyn | !ipmasq |
| 13:32.27 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 13:32.29 | liable | qufert: cool. both, but you need the alsa tools to get alsa working. |
| 13:32.37 | mynullvoid | hi all |
| 13:32.48 | qufert | liable, awesome thank you so much you rock! |
| 13:32.49 | yangx | Gnea: ok i will be back at 19h, that is +5h |
| 13:33.03 | Gnea | yangx: i'll be at work then |
| 13:33.18 | liable | dn4: yeah, there was a blind person here a while back, but i dunno what he was using. |
| 13:33.21 | yangx | Gnea: you can aswell paste me the url of the file in private, once you tar it, so i will grab it |
| 13:33.30 | Gnea | yangx: sounds good |
| 13:33.33 | jobezone | I think, think, that oss drivers can be used by alsa under emulation (of some sort), but may be mistaken. |
| 13:33.33 | petemc | dn4: there is something to make irssi work with festival |
| 13:33.36 | liable | dn4: could have been some hardware thing too, i guess. |
| 13:33.42 | yangx | Gnea: thanks a lot, bye |
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| 13:34.51 | liable | heh, a voice synth would sound like the chipmunks in this channel sometimes to keep up with te pace. :) |
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| 13:35.01 | Gnea | shields up, cap'n! |
| 13:35.04 | liable | damn h key! |
| 13:35.04 | dn4 | liable, I was just thinking that. |
| 13:35.23 | Gnea | liable: that would rule |
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| 13:36.10 | warhead | . |
| 13:36.15 | valdyn | jobezone: you are mistaken |
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| 13:37.09 | rohal | i have a .deb package.......can some one tell me how to install it.....i m a newbie??? |
| 13:37.19 | valdyn | !refcard |
| 13:37.19 | dpkg | refcard is probably A short reference of Debian commands can be found at http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ and will be quite useful for someone new to Debian. |
| 13:37.36 | liable | also.. |
| 13:37.37 | liable | !reference |
| 13:37.37 | dpkg | from memory, reference is The Debian Reference. Will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install it too, the packagename is "debian-reference", 'apt-get install debian-reference'. |
| 13:38.27 | dn4 | Is there a debian tabernacle? |
| 13:38.32 | jobezone | rohal, or, if you're using testing or unstable, you could install gdebi. |
| 13:38.55 | liable | !factinfo reference |
| 13:38.55 | dpkg | reference -- last modified at Wed Sep 21 12:34:16 2005 by antgel!n=antony@82-69-161-254.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk; it has been requested 64 times, last by ton at Thu Dec 1 07:26:36 2005. |
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| 13:39.38 | rohal | jobezone its probably testing or unstable...cedega 5.1 |
| 13:39.45 | coolsail | I'm comming |
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| 13:39.59 | Gnea | coolsail: this is not a chinese channel. |
| 13:40.09 | dn4 | Does anyone know of any activist groups for city wide wireless initiatives? |
| 13:40.25 | SlayerXP | dn4: hacklab.org.uk |
| 13:40.25 | coolsail | Gnea,i know |
| 13:40.39 | Gnea | coolsail: what do you want? |
| 13:40.40 | jobezone | rohal, as root, run "dpkg -i package.deb". These, and a lot of other usefull debian commands are in the reference card linked up. |
| 13:40.51 | goron | When I start openoffice I get asked every single time whether I want to "recover" some file. The buttons "cancel" and ok(?) are not visisble in my screen. I can't resize the window. I use KDE. |
| 13:41.09 | goron | Is there some way to tell openoffice that there are no recoverable files? |
| 13:41.38 | coolsail | Gnea you mean i can'n come here if i have nothing to do ? |
| 13:41.38 | jobezone | rohal, the gdebi package I mentioned just does that (and a little more, like trying to take care of dependencies of the package) graphically. |
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| 13:41.57 | Gnea | coolsail: if you're going to be offtopic, then that is correct |
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| 13:42.27 | rohal | jobezone k thanks....its working... |
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| 13:44.14 | jobezone | The reference card is cool, just too bad that printing it on regular home printers cuts off the margins. |
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| 13:49.22 | quiet | what is the dpkg command for the 2006 gpg keys? |
| 13:49.40 | quitte | /topic |
| 13:49.47 | cr3 | in ~/.screenrc, how can I start a shell and then run a command in it like fortune? |
| 13:49.50 | quiet | d'oh... sory |
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| 13:49.59 | tuv | why don't i have "disk" in my /sys/power/state? there is only "mem" and "standby" and echo'ing any to "state" file returns "operation not permitted" |
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| 13:54.24 | user__ | whats the debian way to dissable services autostart at boot? ;) |
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| 13:54.41 | jm_ | !tell user__ -about services |
| 13:54.43 | liable | user__: remove them |
| 13:55.08 | user__ | liable, but i wan't to keep daemons, and run them only when i need to |
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| 13:55.26 | resiak | update-rc.d |
| 13:55.27 | ssb | then just use update-rc.d |
| 13:55.31 | resiak | or rcconf |
| 13:55.33 | liable | user__: ok, follow the dpkg advice then |
| 13:55.57 | user__ | okay thanks |
| 13:56.17 | tuv | why don't i have "disk" in my /sys/power/state? there is only "mem" and "standby" and echo'ing any to "state" file returns "operation not permitted" |
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| 14:00.00 | loca|host | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.57 | SerajewelKS | loca|host: man ethereal |
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| 14:01.36 | loca|host | doesnt work |
| 14:01.44 | loca|host | is it tethereal |
| 14:01.45 | loca|host | ? |
| 14:01.51 | SerajewelKS | !doesn't work |
| 14:01.51 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 14:02.15 | loca|host | :) |
| 14:02.25 | liable | loca|host: yes, text version is, or just use tcpdump and analyse with ethereal |
| 14:02.25 | SerajewelKS | loca|host: man ethereal is pretty clear on how to do it |
| 14:02.41 | SerajewelKS | loca|host: if you want a text-mode sniffer you really want tcpdump |
| 14:02.43 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 14:02.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 14:02.53 | SerajewelKS | !beat tarzeau |
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| 14:03.12 | loca|host | look the problem is that am wondering howto sniff smpp traffic, tcpdump does not handle smpp protocol |
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| 14:03.24 | loca|host | i've tryed ethereal |
| 14:03.30 | SerajewelKS | loca|host: tcpdump will handle any protocol that goes over ethernet |
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| 14:04.42 | loca|host | [root@cellsms ethereal]# tcpdump -X ip proto \\smpp |
| 14:04.42 | loca|host | tcpdump: unknown ip proto 'smpp' |
| 14:04.46 | Rudolf | why i receive errors when use "make install" |
| 14:04.52 | Rudolf | in a lot of program |
| 14:05.03 | SerajewelKS | Rudolf: that's what debian packages are for |
| 14:05.07 | SerajewelKS | !wayc Rudolf |
| 14:05.07 | dpkg | Rudolf: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 14:05.11 | loca|host | SerajewelKS, that's what tcpdump return when trying to sniff smpp |
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| 14:05.27 | Rudolf | dpkg: but i wanna compile |
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| 14:05.55 | Rudolf | dpkg: webalizer and honeypot |
| 14:05.58 | tarzeau | loca|host: what's smpp? |
| 14:05.59 | capitol | hmm mysql is uninstallable in unstable, is there any way to install it anyway? |
| 14:06.00 | SerajewelKS | loca|host: are you sure it's not a tcp protocol? |
| 14:06.06 | SerajewelKS | !smpp |
| 14:06.06 | tarzeau | loca|host: you mean smtp or snmp? |
| 14:06.17 | tarzeau | ah ip proto |
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| 14:07.24 | nkuttler | capitol: check the bts |
| 14:07.59 | Rudolf | /bin/sh: line 1: cd: /usr/local/share/honeyd: Arquivo ou diretrio no encontrado |
| 14:08.02 | Rudolf | make[2]: ** [install-data-local] Erro 1 |
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| 14:08.41 | SerajewelKS | loca|host: very few protocols use IP. they're either UDP or TCP. |
| 14:08.59 | capitol | nkuttler: if there is an bug against for it? |
| 14:09.04 | SerajewelKS | loca|host: i don't see smpp in /etc/services either |
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| 14:10.39 | pengol | hi there is there a tool to get the motherboard id string ? |
| 14:11.00 | adaran | hmm are there any php5-pdo-* packages for unstable? the only ones i could find are from dotdeb.org and they are for sarge (require libreadline4, which conflicts with 5) |
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| 14:12.49 | fireba11 | pengol: eyball mark I |
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| 14:13.08 | pengol | fireba11: ? |
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| 14:13.23 | chealer9 | adaran: what's pdo? |
| 14:13.33 | fireba11 | pengol: mainboard ID is printed on the mainboard .. so just take a look :-) |
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| 14:13.55 | adaran | chealer9, php data objects, it used to be a third-party php extension but has been merged into the main-distribution of php as of php 5.1.2 if i'm not mistaken |
| 14:14.00 | pengol | it is a remote machine |
| 14:14.13 | fireba11 | pengol: what for you need it anyway ? |
| 14:14.35 | pengol | fireba11: need to get its manual to see if it support wol |
| 14:14.47 | adaran | chealer9, now dotdeb has packages for that, but they depend on the dotdeb-version of php, which in turn pull in conflicting dependencies from sarge |
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| 14:15.21 | fireba11 | pengol: wol needs a special cable attached ... chances are good the mainboards supports it but noone put the cable there |
| 14:15.30 | chealer9 | adaran: #348882 |
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| 14:15.42 | fireba11 | pengol: why do you need wol on a remote box anyway ? |
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| 14:16.24 | isv | question: no Xine on Etch? |
| 14:16.25 | jm_ | fireba11: you don't need a cable if it's on-board NIC |
| 14:16.26 | fireba11 | pengol: the cable thingie is for non-onboard nics of course |
| 14:16.31 | pengol | fireba11: it is an onboard device |
| 14:16.35 | thefish | how can i force removal of a deb package? i have psa-imp installed and it wont remove, keeps complaining about a bad exit status of a script |
| 14:16.35 | fireba11 | jm_ of course :-) |
| 14:17.02 | jm_ | thefish: check BTS, fix the script |
| 14:17.06 | chealer9 | isv: xine-ui? no |
| 14:17.17 | fireba11 | pengol: still you will need to enter bios to make sure it's enabled .. you got a remote console switch or somethign that lets you do that ? |
| 14:17.22 | isv | i' didn't find it in my repositories :s |
| 14:17.28 | adaran | chealer9, well that bugreport /wishlist is almost 2 months old =/ |
| 14:17.31 | thefish | jm_: what is BTS? |
| 14:17.36 | jm_ | thefish: /msg dpkg bts |
| 14:17.36 | fireba11 | !BTS |
| 14:17.36 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 14:17.50 | chealer9 | adaran: yeah, but it answers your question |
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| 14:18.45 | thefish | jm_: this is a plesk package, it does not appear in bts |
| 14:19.02 | jm_ | thefish: then you need to contact the author or figure it out on your own |
| 14:19.33 | fireba11 | pengol: still i'm interested why you want to do that at all ... remote boxes usually run 24/7 .. !? |
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| 14:19.56 | pengol | fireba11: why should I tell you the all story ? |
| 14:19.56 | pengol | :) |
| 14:20.00 | liable | pengol: ethtool should give you some info on the cards capabilities |
| 14:20.09 | pengol | it's a cluster ... I need to power on nodes |
| 14:20.29 | pengol | liable: ethtool doesn't say nothing about Wake-on-lan |
| 14:20.38 | liable | pengol: what chip? |
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| 14:20.49 | pengol | liable: 8169 |
| 14:20.53 | fireba11 | pengol: my experience in here tells me that quite often if people ask akward questions they try to do something a lot more complicated than they need |
| 14:21.04 | liable | realtek? |
| 14:21.10 | pengol | liable: yes |
| 14:21.12 | fireba11 | pengol: powering on nodes on demand is of course a valid reason (tm) :-) |
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| 14:21.25 | pengol | fireba11: you right sorry |
| 14:21.58 | Rudolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.22 | pengol | liable: it must be enabled by software but seems that ethtool doesn't support it on that nic |
| 14:22.25 | fireba11 | Rudolf: wth ? |
| 14:22.34 | liable | pengol: in my experience, it can depend on the kernel. with a 2.6.8 ethtool says nothing for my sis card, 2.6.12 says a bit, but to get wol, i need to patch the kernel.. |
| 14:23.16 | pengol | liable: same here ... where do I look for a patch? |
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| 14:23.30 | liable | pengol: google :) |
| 14:23.38 | pengol | liable: no way |
| 14:24.20 | jm_ | liable: driver only enables/disables it or sets the status, doesn't mean the BIOS won't do it for example |
| 14:24.29 | jm_ | sets the mode, not status |
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| 14:25.15 | liable | jm_: well, i cant do anything even if its set in bios, without patching the kernel. then if machine shuts down uncleanly, i need to reset it with ethtool. |
| 14:25.24 | pengol | jm_: I think it should be done both in the bios and with a sofware that's how it's written to go on windows |
| 14:25.30 | jm_ | liable: define do anything |
| 14:25.48 | liable | jm_: it doesnt even show up as wol enabled |
| 14:25.56 | jm_ | pengol: wake on lan? the OS is inactive at that point |
| 14:26.06 | jm_ | liable: sure, but it should be settable in BIOS |
| 14:26.20 | pengol | jm_: shure .. but nic conf is done by sofware |
| 14:26.25 | jm_ | pengol: or BIOS |
| 14:26.33 | concept10 | when I add info to /etc/hosts, do I have to reload something in order for the added hosts to become recognized? |
| 14:26.36 | pengol | jm_: it is not set by the BIOS |
| 14:26.49 | pengol | jm_: I got the correct values in it |
| 14:26.53 | jm_ | pengol: anyway, liable has told you - some drivers were ported to ethtool sooner, some later, some have more features than others ... |
| 14:26.55 | liable | jm_: it is, but, if the kernel doesnt set it before shutdown, no wol. i dont know the intricate workings of it. |
| 14:27.00 | jm_ | pengol: it certainly is on any machines I have tried it on |
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| 14:27.30 | jm_ | liable: right, it might override NIC setup, that makes sense |
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| 14:27.51 | stagge | hi, how can i list all my installed programms? |
| 14:28.08 | fireba11 | stagge: dpkg --get-selections |
| 14:28.18 | stagge | thanks a lot! |
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| 14:29.25 | pengol | jm_: the only setting in the bios is PME event wake up and it is enabled |
| 14:29.38 | warhead | . |
| 14:29.43 | jm_ | pengol: tough luck then |
| 14:30.38 | faber2 | i have started a sshd on port 21 (because of a firewall). now i see the SSH daemon when connecting using "telnet <ip> 21". if i use ssh -p <ip>, i get a "connection closed". any ideas? |
| 14:30.50 | pengol | jm_: but in the windows instruction to enable wake on lan there is written to do it once the system as booted in the nick properties. |
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| 14:30.57 | quiet | umm.. trying to run tasksel and i keep getting "tasksel: aptitude failed (1)" that's it.. |
| 14:31.05 | jm_ | faber2: you need to tell it the port to connect to, -P |
| 14:31.07 | faber2 | does ssh opens another port for the communication? |
| 14:31.18 | pengol | jm_: that's why I think it need another configurationstep |
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| 14:31.26 | jm_ | faber2: that is, -p <portnum> |
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| 14:31.49 | jm_ | pengol: like I said, none of my machines needed any tweaking in OS for WOL to work |
| 14:31.49 | faber2 | jm_: i have started the server with "sshd -p 21" |
| 14:32.09 | jm_ | faber2: ssh client too |
| 14:32.18 | faber2 | and my client with "ssh -p <ip>" fails |
| 14:32.29 | pengol | jm_: even gigabyte? |
| 14:32.37 | faber2 | jm_: Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer |
| 14:32.37 | jm_ | usage is -p <portnum> hostname |
| 14:32.39 | pengol | jm_: with rtl on boards? |
| 14:32.49 | jm_ | pengol: no, don't have any of those ;) |
| 14:32.54 | faber2 | jm_: i tried this locally with two machines, and it works |
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| 14:33.07 | pengol | jm thanks |
| 14:33.14 | faber2 | jm_: on the remote machine there is a firewall inbetween which only forwards port 21. |
| 14:33.31 | jm_ | pengol: one was HP, the rest no-name with various parts, hard to know the details now |
| 14:33.41 | jm_ | faber2: you're not using it correctly |
| 14:34.00 | liable | pengol: dude, i just googled 'linux 8169 wol' and the first link was a patch.. |
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| 14:34.02 | faber2 | jm_: what do you mean? what do i do wrong? |
| 14:34.16 | pengol | liable: cool :) |
| 14:34.20 | stpeter | what is xsvg? a new xserver to avoid rendering of svg client side? |
| 14:34.24 | Dingbat | Does anyone know of a backport of the testing kernel to stable? |
| 14:34.24 | jm_ | faber2: I told you, read your screen |
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| 14:34.39 | jm_ | Dingbat: yes, many people do |
| 14:34.58 | faber2 | jm_: you told me "ssh -p 21 <ip>". that is exactly what i am doing |
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| 14:35.02 | mynullvoid | hi all |
| 14:35.10 | Dingbat | jm_: Any packages you recommend? |
| 14:35.15 | jm_ | faber2: no, you said you're using "ssh -p <ip>" |
| 14:35.18 | pengol | liable: you mean second? |
| 14:35.27 | jm_ | Dingbat: /msg dpkg backports and search there |
| 14:35.45 | faber2 | jm_: yeah, sorry, i am doing "ssh -p 21 <ip>". |
| 14:36.00 | liable | pengol: no, first, second, fourth, fifth.. |
| 14:36.16 | mynullvoid | how can I use find to list all email with January (01-2006) timestamp? |
| 14:36.23 | faber2 | jm_: on the other side it is a standard suse system (arggg), may be it has disabled password negotiation. |
| 14:36.25 | Dingbat | jm_: ty :D |
| 14:36.43 | jm_ | faber2: check ssh logs on it |
| 14:36.45 | Dingbat | although both backport.org and apt-get.org is down. lol :/ |
| 14:36.52 | jm_ | it's backports.org |
| 14:36.59 | jm_ | and it's not down |
| 14:37.14 | Dingbat | hm, i'll try from a diffrent location then |
| 14:37.17 | faber2 | jm_: i can only access the local machine. and -v -v gives me no useful clue. |
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| 14:38.03 | jm_ | faber2: then ask someone who can to check it |
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| 14:39.07 | BiTRIDER | hi, i'm trying to create a custom cd. problem is the installer does not prompt to confirm either the root or normal user password during the install process. can anyone give me a hint at what to look for to fix this? |
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| 14:40.44 | jm_ | faber2: strange thing is that telnet works and shows the banner |
| 14:40.52 | abrotman | !custom netinst |
| 14:40.53 | dpkg | somebody said custom netinst was http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers or http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/hackdi/ or http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianCustomCD |
| 14:41.01 | faber2 | jm_: true |
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| 14:41.21 | faber2 | jm_: the remote sysadmin is an idiot, and i am trying to avoid interference with the guy |
| 14:41.39 | warhead | Hi to all |
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| 14:42.23 | warhead | How in KDE to add usb icon when I put in usb my usb key? |
| 14:42.24 | Dingbat | Anyone using the latest kernel here on stable? had any problems with it? http://kitenet.net/~joey/debian/ |
| 14:42.30 | jm_ | faber2: so if you strace -e read -s 8192 ssh -p 21 IP you should see it read the banner |
| 14:42.35 | warhead | Any program in kde or kernel modul? |
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| 14:42.53 | abrotman | Dingbat: try backports.org |
| 14:43.04 | jm_ | I use custom compiled 2.6.15, no problems |
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| 14:43.12 | faber2 | jm_: it talks to the remote sshd, no prob. |
| 14:43.19 | Dingbat | abrotman: the link is a backport |
| 14:43.25 | abrotman | Dingbat: no it's not |
| 14:43.29 | jm_ | faber2: in that case it has to be debugged on that end I guess |
| 14:43.36 | abrotman | Dingbat: http://backports.org/ |
| 14:43.41 | thingfish | Dingbat: it would be better, as abrotman said, to use the 2.6.15 from backports.org. |
| 14:44.04 | abrotman | Dingbat: those you're looking at .. joey works on the installer .. no telling what they've done to them |
| 14:44.05 | Dingbat | hm, sry, I didn't get a chance to search there since I can't reach it atm. |
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| 14:44.12 | Dingbat | ag |
| 14:44.13 | Dingbat | ah |
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| 14:45.11 | Dingbat | I just don't want to compile a custom kernel on a production server, it's not very efficient :P |
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| 14:45.40 | abrotman | why would you want a custom kernel at all? |
| 14:45.47 | Dingbat | hehe |
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| 14:46.14 | Dingbat | On my own systems, I'd rather only have exactly what I need in the kernel. |
| 14:46.25 | thingfish | I am updating my kernel from backports.org, seems to be working fine here. |
| 14:46.34 | stpeter | Dingbat: make-kpkg ? |
| 14:46.48 | abrotman | !tell Dingbat about kp |
| 14:46.56 | abrotman | Dingbat: and why would you use a kernel from there if you want your own kernel? |
| 14:47.08 | BiTRIDER | dpkg: thanks, I've looked at those already and done them that's why I've already built my custom CD and although it installs fine, the step where is asked to enter the root password does not display a prompt to confirm that password that was entered. How do I fix that? |
| 14:47.09 | dpkg | sure thing, BiTRIDER |
| 14:47.20 | abrotman | Dingbat: and everything in the debian kernels is a module .. only load the modules you need |
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| 14:48.39 | praseodym | where is debian's ssh log located, and if there is none, how do I enable it? |
| 14:48.50 | abrotman | probably /var/log/auth.log |
| 14:48.51 | Dingbat | actually debian loads everything including the kitchen sink per default :P |
| 14:49.03 | abrotman | Dingbat: define "everything" |
| 14:49.22 | orp | how do i change de keyboard layout on system ? |
| 14:49.30 | Dingbat | I just think some things shouldn't be put in /etc/rc*/* per default. |
| 14:49.43 | fireba11 | praseodym: if you need more than just logins you need to change the defaults though |
| 14:49.43 | Dingbat | and everytime you update, their back there again. |
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| 14:50.02 | azeem | Dingbat: use update-rc.d to change |
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| 14:50.09 | fireba11 | Dingbat: what are you referring to ? |
| 14:50.11 | EtherNet | hello guys |
| 14:50.19 | praseodym | abrotman, fireba11: ty |
| 14:50.25 | EtherNet | I am trying to initialize iptables_nat module for my kernel and I get some errors... |
| 14:50.29 | EtherNet | let me paste in a site |
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| 14:50.40 | Dingbat | azeem: cool, you can remove it perminetly with change? |
| 14:50.56 | Dingbat | s/perminetly/permanently |
| 14:50.59 | orp | i need to change my shell to pt layout howto? |
| 14:51.05 | liable | whats a good link on how to make a local ftp repo? |
| 14:51.10 | EtherNet | this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/MjvWZj56.html could anyone help me |
| 14:51.11 | fireba11 | Dingbat: am curious ..what you want to remove ? |
| 14:51.14 | plbgnr | hello, what should I use to view .chm files? |
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| 14:52.02 | liable | Dingbat: sysvconfig will keep it permanent iirc |
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| 14:52.35 | liable | Dingbat: if you use update-rc.d or just remove the links, i think they get remade at package upgrade |
| 14:52.44 | Dingbat | yea, I know |
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| 14:53.01 | fireba11 | liable: can't think of a package that i want installed but not run though ... |
| 14:53.18 | stpeter | how to list-rc.d in debian? |
| 14:53.20 | azeem | just remove them only from the runlevels you care about |
| 14:53.22 | praseodym | lol, there's someone doing a dictionary attack on ssh usernames |
| 14:53.24 | liable | fireba11: yeah, well some do apparently :) |
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| 14:53.35 | abrotman | Dingbat: that's totally different than modules |
| 14:53.41 | EtherNet | anyone checked: http://rafb.net/paste/results/MjvWZj56.html ? |
| 14:53.44 | abrotman | Dingbat: what do you think shouldn't be running? |
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| 14:53.58 | fireba11 | liable: could be that i only ever do netinstalls so there is close to noghing on there i don't need .. :-D |
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| 14:54.05 | Dingbat | abrotman: it's just preference, like atd, inetd, portmap, probably some more. |
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| 14:54.27 | abrotman | Dingbat: are you using nfs ? |
| 14:54.30 | Dingbat | It's just become routine to clean out rc*.d/* every debian install |
| 14:54.36 | BiTRIDER | EtherNet: yep, i did, can't help you there, sorry |
| 14:54.37 | Dingbat | nope, I remove those to :P |
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| 14:54.43 | abrotman | i have no idea why nfs is installed but whatever |
| 14:54.49 | abrotman | Dingbat: apt-get --purge remove portmap |
| 14:54.53 | abrotman | no more portman |
| 14:54.56 | abrotman | portmap |
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| 14:55.07 | abrotman | Dingbat: atd is a good thing |
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| 14:55.18 | liable | theres some bastard package atm that depends on portmap. |
| 14:55.22 | abrotman | Dingbat: and inetd .. you're not running anything out of it? comment everything out |
| 14:55.25 | abrotman | liable: nfs-common |
| 14:55.26 | Dingbat | abrotman: hehe, still, it's like windows where everything you install crawls it's way into your registry :P |
| 14:55.29 | thingfish | maybe he means netatalk. |
| 14:55.46 | liable | abrotman: no, something else. i cant remember. famd maybe? |
| 14:55.47 | quiet | "tasksel: aptitude failed (1)" can someone offer a suggestion? all i seleced was laptop. |
| 14:55.58 | abrotman | liable: not on a server |
| 14:56.08 | Peterken | Good afternoon all, i was wounderin. I saw they put everything in 'testing' to 'stable' when they release a new stable version of debian. Is there also something scheduled when to expect the next stable release of debian? |
| 14:56.12 | abrotman | Dingbat: oh yeah .. because atd is just like windows |
| 14:56.15 | liable | or hal or someshit, i cant remember, i removed it, and something installed it. |
| 14:56.19 | Dingbat | abrotman: I agree there's no real problem at all, but I see so many debian systems that I don't admin that have so much crap running :) |
| 14:56.30 | abrotman | Dingbat: well .. that's a piss poor admin |
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| 14:56.37 | liable | abrotman: no, this is on my laptop. |
| 14:56.37 | quiet | Peterken, the end of the year.. etch is expected to be released. |
| 14:56.38 | abrotman | speaking of |
| 14:56.41 | abrotman | !lart jabber.org |
| 14:56.46 | abrotman | liable: running gnome? |
| 14:56.47 | Dingbat | hehe |
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| 14:56.51 | liable | abrotman: nope |
| 14:56.53 | BiTRIDER | Peterken: i think they've decided to put out a stable yearly now |
| 14:57.02 | Peterken | ic ;( |
| 14:57.09 | abrotman | liable: famd depends on portmap .. yes .. but why do you have famd installed ? |
| 14:57.12 | Dingbat | abrotman: I'd just appreciate a choice when the package is automatically installed that's all. ehm, anyway i'm gona go back to work :) |
| 14:57.27 | Peterken | tnx quiet & BiTRIDER |
| 14:57.45 | abrotman | Dingbat: i would assume nfs is installed by default for those that use nfs $HOME |
| 14:57.48 | quiet | Peterken, you can find an anticipated release on the Distrowatch shcedule |
| 14:57.50 | edrin | hm |
| 14:57.56 | liable | abrotman: i dont know. :) |
| 14:57.57 | abrotman | !wwer |
| 14:57.58 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. There are no current estimates. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/01/msg00001.html |
| 14:57.59 | Peterken | id |
| 14:58.00 | Peterken | ic |
| 14:58.10 | abrotman | liable: try to remove portmap .. see what else goes |
| 14:58.26 | fireba11 | Dingbat: most packages ask if they should run as deamon of via init .. those make no sens fi you want neither so that's no option :-D |
| 14:58.42 | Dingbat | *cry* :/ |
| 14:59.04 | quiet | Peterken, http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/10/msg00004.html |
| 14:59.05 | fireba11 | Dingbat: for example it makes no sense to have a ftp installed but not running |
| 14:59.18 | fireba11 | Dingbat: if you don't use it remove it :-) |
| 14:59.30 | liable | hrm, the only thing that gets removed is fam and portmap.. but there *was* a package that installed them, cause i didnt do it. |
| 14:59.38 | Dingbat | fireba11: why not? I start it when I need it.. maybe that's just paranoid :P |
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| 15:00.01 | noahlau | hi |
| 15:00.02 | liable | i remember seeing it and being annoyed, but cant remember what the package was. |
| 15:00.07 | fireba11 | Dingbat: if you need soemthing like ftp that rare you can use scp |
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| 15:00.38 | Dingbat | fireba11: yea, I use that mainly now, but sometimes ftp is needed for the faint of heart :P |
| 15:00.46 | quiet | fireba11, you need ssh to be running to use scp.. |
| 15:00.49 | noahlau | would u mind to tell me what is the difference between apt-get remove and apt-get remove --purge ??? |
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| 15:01.09 | Dingbat | well, ssh is obligatory on any linux system, I get that. atleast :P |
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| 15:01.13 | fireba11 | quiet: that's close to no way to administrate a remote box without ssh anyway |
| 15:01.27 | abrotman | Dingbat: no it's not |
| 15:01.35 | Dingbat | abrotman: You just want to disagree |
| 15:01.42 | fireba11 | ^^ |
| 15:01.47 | BiTRIDER | noahlau: purge removes even the residual config files, remove just removes the files |
| 15:01.48 | liable | webmin is the best way :) |
| 15:01.51 | abrotman | Dingbat: not really .. many people can get by without ssh |
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| 15:01.54 | priscila | noahlau: apt-get remove --purge remove the config files too |
| 15:02.05 | fireba11 | liable: that's a good one :-) |
| 15:02.13 | noahlau | ok, thank you very much !!!!! |
| 15:02.22 | Dingbat | abrotman: I have problems believing that. |
| 15:02.52 | stpeter | why the base system install so many unuseful packages? |
| 15:03.03 | liable | noahlau: --purge removes the configs. |
| 15:03.04 | fireba11 | Dingbat: there are still people using telnet *g* also if you got a remote console switch you don't actually need ssh |
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| 15:03.14 | liable | !tell noahlau about reference |
| 15:03.32 | fireba11 | stpeter: you mean "base system" as in the d-i asked what config you want ? |
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| 15:03.54 | abrotman | Dingbat: how about a cluster? .. they only need rlogin |
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| 15:04.14 | stpeter | ehm, like: grub, kernel, sysv, discover |
| 15:04.24 | stpeter | bash login |
| 15:04.25 | stpeter | stop |
| 15:04.25 | BiTRIDER | stpeter: IMHO, debian installs a very lean base for a major distro, which packages where you referring to? |
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| 15:04.46 | Dingbat | abrotman: yea but that's ssh isn't it? :P |
| 15:04.46 | stpeter | this packages and the dependency |
| 15:04.51 | edrin | hey stpeter ;) |
| 15:04.53 | abrotman | Dingbat: you think rlogin is ssh ? |
| 15:04.58 | azeem | edrin: you know him? |
| 15:05.08 | liable | stpeter: you think you can run debian without a kernel? |
| 15:05.12 | edrin | azeem: i guess |
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| 15:05.26 | priscila | stpeter: i think the base system install only you need for boot and get a shell |
| 15:05.31 | callan_ | How come su isn't using root's .bashrc? |
| 15:05.45 | edrin | well |
| 15:05.49 | stpeter | this: grub, kernel, sysv, discover, bash login |
| 15:05.55 | edrin | azeem: why do you ask? |
| 15:05.57 | SerajewelKS | callan_: you want 'su -' |
| 15:05.58 | liable | callan_: su - |
| 15:06.01 | fireba11 | priscila: yes, that's about it .. plus some basic network tools and the package management of course |
| 15:06.01 | edrin | azeem: I am not so sure |
| 15:06.03 | liable | !lose me |
| 15:06.03 | dpkg | liable: You Lose. |
| 15:06.12 | azeem | edrin: because his question looks trollish to me |
| 15:06.16 | edrin | stpeter: are you jsf member? |
| 15:06.18 | abrotman | Dingbat: you can use ssh with keys to simulate rlogin .. |
| 15:06.19 | BiTRIDER | stpeter: you need all those to boot your system |
| 15:06.23 | callan_ | Thanks. |
| 15:06.29 | edrin | azeem: i know the nick :/ |
| 15:06.34 | stpeter | edrin: ehm no |
| 15:06.37 | abrotman | Dingbat: but that will create overhead in what should already be a secure area |
| 15:06.38 | azeem | stpeter: those are mostly essential system packages, I do not understand your question |
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| 15:06.45 | edrin | azeem: so i dont know him |
| 15:06.57 | callan_ | Also, does Debian really have plans of phasing out the nonfree and contrib repositories? |
| 15:06.59 | fireba11 | abrotman: what exactly is rlogin ? no real factoid about it .. |
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| 15:07.06 | azeem | fireba11: it's deprecated |
| 15:07.13 | fireba11 | azeem: ah |
| 15:07.30 | abrotman | fireba11: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rlogin .. completely insecure remote shell .. basically telnet . but worse :) |
| 15:08.01 | stpeter | azeem: mmm i get a huge system, i've found instead that the really base system to get apt-get working is really much small than what the debian installer create |
| 15:08.06 | abrotman | fireba11: you're not really supposed to use it .. but it can still be useful in some instances |
| 15:08.25 | azeem | stpeter: that might be true, yet the examples you cite are really needed for most operations |
| 15:08.47 | stpeter | like: 50mb system in my tests: 300 mb with debian installer |
| 15:08.48 | azeem | stpeter: debian-installer installs a usable system, not the smallest system known to mankind |
| 15:08.49 | stpeter | :( |
| 15:08.54 | fireba11 | azeem: i'd love to see him trying without bootloader and kernel :-D |
| 15:08.59 | azeem | stpeter: skip tasksel then |
| 15:09.00 | stpeter | azeem: why? |
| 15:09.10 | azeem | stpeter: because that is what most users want |
| 15:09.23 | stpeter | there is some option in the install steps i've not choosed? |
| 15:09.28 | azeem | stpeter: if you do not want this, try other installation methods, like direct debootstrap |
| 15:09.29 | abrotman | it's a basic setup that is useful .. a system with nothing but pam is pretty darn boring :) |
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| 15:09.54 | stpeter | azeem: i think debbootstrap is the same way debian installer use |
| 15:10.00 | fireba11 | abrotman: also it's pretty damn silent on the network *g* |
| 15:10.15 | SerajewelKS | stpeter: except that it's not |
| 15:10.16 | azeem | stpeter: pass it --variant buildd, and it will only install essential packages |
| 15:10.24 | azeem | then, remove the build-essential ones, plus their dependencies |
| 15:10.38 | abrotman | fireba11: i suppose |
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| 15:11.56 | quiet | is there any elegant way to get firefox 1.5 for etch? |
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| 15:12.06 | SerajewelKS | quiet: backport from unstable |
| 15:12.10 | SlayerXP | quiet: yes, wait. |
| 15:12.16 | quiet | works with etch? |
| 15:12.19 | abrotman | quiet: wait or do your own backport . |
| 15:12.27 | abrotman | quiet: though .. i've heard it's hellishly unstable .. |
| 15:12.28 | SerajewelKS | quiet: uh yes, that's the idea of a backport |
| 15:12.33 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: fud |
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| 15:12.54 | quiet | abrotman, any idea how long until it's there?? i found it odd that xorg 6.9 is there but not ff 1.5 |
| 15:12.57 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: dunno .. a lot of people report it crashing a lot |
| 15:13.01 | abrotman | !why is firefox not in testing |
| 15:13.01 | dpkg | firefox is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=firefox |
| 15:13.03 | BiTRIDER | quiet: or download it from mozilla.org and install it manually, just remember to fix the firefox link in /usr/bin |
| 15:13.13 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: probably some library it's linked to |
| 15:13.21 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: on etch it's very stable |
| 15:13.28 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: not that same version afaik |
| 15:13.46 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=mozilla-firefox |
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| 15:14.06 | liable | i dont think its particularly worse than any other version. |
| 15:14.08 | BiTRIDER | ff 1.5.0,1 crashes if you try to run it with java |
| 15:14.18 | SerajewelKS | BiTRIDER: not here |
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| 15:14.41 | BiTRIDER | sorry |
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| 15:15.40 | quiet | SerajewelKS, sry, can you tell me how to get the backport from unstable?? just add 'unstable' repos to sources.list? |
| 15:15.43 | GoAuLd | my firefox 1.5.0.1 dont crashes though it eats a lot of more memory than earlyer versions |
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| 15:16.59 | pitillo | GoAuLd, reduce the webpages cached by mozilla |
| 15:17.04 | warhead | How in KDE to turn on USB Memory automatic detekt when is plugin |
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| 15:17.13 | abrotman | or if you have broadband .. turn off caching altogether |
| 15:17.21 | Hadaka | How do I install a truetype font by hand on a Debian system? |
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| 15:17.36 | abrotman | !ttf |
| 15:17.36 | dpkg | hmm... ttf is the extension of a True Type Font, checkout freetype or ask me about truetype for location of debian howto. for truetype font support with XF4 ask me about ttf xf4, or see <msttcorefonts>, or see <bobfont> |
| 15:17.55 | warhead | hm |
| 15:17.56 | liable | !bobfont |
| 15:17.57 | dpkg | [bobfont] http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt |
| 15:18.07 | warhead | ok, how to auto mount DVD? |
| 15:18.10 | Hadaka | thank you. |
| 15:18.14 | abrotman | bah .. bobfont is broken |
| 15:18.15 | warhead | simple question. |
| 15:18.22 | abrotman | warhead: ask #debian-kde |
| 15:18.24 | liable | crumbs? |
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| 15:18.31 | SerajewelKS | warhead: generally you don't need to |
| 15:18.33 | abrotman | liable: afaik .. it's bob2 |
| 15:18.37 | GoAuLd | pitillo, you are talking firefox's option of reducing the disk cache size? |
| 15:18.42 | SerajewelKS | warhead: when you open the device in konqueror it will mount it |
| 15:18.54 | liable | abrotman: iirc it was crumbs.ertius.org |
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| 15:19.00 | liable | or erticus |
| 15:19.07 | abrotman | liable: /msg nickserv info bob2 |
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| 15:19.30 | liable | where te hell did he go anyway |
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| 15:19.32 | BiTRIDER | warhead: if you have udev, had and pmount installed that should automount it i think |
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| 15:19.37 | abrotman | liable: no clue ... |
| 15:19.41 | BiTRIDER | i mean hal |
| 15:19.48 | warhead | SerajewelKS : Yes, but when I try uload CD/DVD I need manual to unmount |
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| 15:20.29 | pitillo | GoAuLd, try in google... there you can find more info about that "problem" :) |
| 15:21.10 | warhead | SerajewelKS : btw..I wont to when I put DVD in drive to automatic create icone on desktop, when I |
| 15:21.49 | warhead | try get DVD... damn, I need manual unmount |
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| 15:22.16 | BiTRIDER | the init script for hotplug tries to install a pcihotplug, something i don't use, how do i disable that? |
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| 15:22.49 | borco | bye |
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| 15:25.43 | GoAuLd | bitrider use hotplugs blacklist |
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| 15:28.47 | faber2 | during an apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get want to enable the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. is that a good thing ?` |
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| 15:28.53 | faber2 | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 15:29.10 | Shadowcat | faber2: that made no sense |
| 15:29.17 | liable | !e2fsprogs loop |
| 15:29.17 | dpkg | somebody said e2fsprogs loop was you are running packages which are older than the current debian stable and are trying to upgrade to debian testing which isn't supported, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "testing" or "etch" or "unstable" with "stable" then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; then if you still want testing, edit sources.list again, and change stable to testing and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:29.29 | berzerka | how can i view a specific local .1 file with man? |
| 15:29.41 | Shadowcat | man 1 man |
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| 15:30.32 | BiTRIDER | i see now, thanks GoAuLd |
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| 15:30.42 | faber2 | liable:so upgrade to stable first |
| 15:31.36 | liable | faber2: are you using te sarge testing installer? |
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| 15:31.48 | faber2 | liable: no. i am on a running system |
| 15:32.28 | liable | installed with what installer? |
| 15:32.32 | berzerka | Shadowcat: Maybe i have overread it again, but i can't find an option to open a concrete .1 file (without adding it to MANPATH etc.).. |
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| 15:34.05 | faber2 | liable: mmhhh... i think that was an image from our isp |
| 15:34.30 | liable | faber2: then try what dpkg said. |
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| 15:34.49 | faber2 | liable: i put the option in apt.conf, but it still says it |
| 15:34.56 | liable | faber2: be carefull with free isp mirrors, they can be a pain in the ass. |
| 15:35.02 | faber2 | liable: ah, you mean !dpkg, ok |
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| 15:37.23 | Eulex | why can't I just enter a filename in a gtk2 save file dialog and press enter? tabbing doesn't work either. I have to lose time by grabbing my mouse, moving the mouse pointer to the "Save" button and click it. |
| 15:38.10 | berzerka | Shadowcat: Oh.. i see.. excuse me, please. I was looking at the man manual on a Solaris machine... on debian i just do man ./xxx.1. |
| 15:38.52 | fireba11 | Eulex: file a bug :-) |
| 15:38.57 | Eulex | this kind of gtk2 file save dialog, that is: http://clemens-and.nihongonauts.com/uploads/gtk2.4_file_dialog_save_2_small.png |
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| 15:39.14 | edrin | is a portscan legal? |
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| 15:39.52 | |RABBIT| | greetings |
| 15:39.52 | fireba11 | edrin: depends on where you are ... here it is still legal if you don't portscan whole ranges of internet adresses |
| 15:39.58 | |RABBIT| | which x terminal allows me to specify the font to use? |
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| 15:40.55 | Eulex | fireba11, yeah, guess I'll do that. |
| 15:40.55 | xomhau | how to config network? eg: hostname , domain name? |
| 15:40.55 | Eulex | cauchy1, please turn that off. |
| 15:41.44 | fireba11 | xomhau: use d-i or edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:42.10 | xomhau | fireba11, use d-i??? |
| 15:42.21 | fireba11 | xomhau: debian installer |
| 15:42.26 | Ronin | !tell xomhau about d-i |
| 15:42.43 | faber2 | during a dist-upgrade, i get errors (sub-process dpkg). can i force apt-get to continue? |
| 15:42.44 | xomhau | thank |
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| 15:43.49 | fireba11 | faber2: try to figure out what went wrong .. if you force it you might brak your system |
| 15:43.56 | fireba11 | brake even |
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| 15:44.18 | thingfish | faber2: are you doing a woody -> etch upgrade? |
| 15:44.24 | thingfish | break |
| 15:44.45 | BiTRIDER | xomhau: try etherconf |
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| 15:45.26 | faber2 | thingfish: well, i am not so sure anymore. i had something like stable/testing before i did a dist-upgrade which failed with e2fsprogs force-loop ... |
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| 15:47.23 | loca|host | hello |
| 15:47.27 | loca|host | am using tethereal |
| 15:47.31 | loca|host | i want it to sniff smpp traffic on port 4000 only, i did this : tethereal -d tcp.port==4000,smpp -x |
| 15:47.36 | loca|host | i still receive ssh packets and others ... (am connected to the server via ssh, so i dont want to see the ssh traffic) |
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| 15:51.12 | DRD-tester | oops |
| 15:51.15 | Ronin | almost DRD-tester :) |
| 15:51.32 | faber2 | alright, now my dist-upgrade has only 3 not fully installed packages... the first error is: |
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| 15:51.37 | faber2 | Setting up xlibs (6.9.0.dfsg.1-4) ... |
| 15:51.38 | faber2 | dpkg: error processing xlibs (--configure): |
| 15:51.38 | faber2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.44 | faber2 | any ideas, what i can do? |
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| 15:52.30 | DRD-tester | i somehow smashed my bootloader. how can i resinstall it with the netinst cd? |
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| 15:53.09 | stpeter | with the setup command of the grub console i think |
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| 15:53.59 | thingfish | if you need to reinstall grub, and you're booted to the system, just use grub-install. |
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| 15:55.49 | DRD-tester | i booted from the cdrom, loaded the setup components and selected "execute shell". |
| 15:55.58 | DRD-tester | but there is no grub-install command |
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| 15:56.18 | stpeter | grub? |
| 15:56.19 | thingfish | mount your hard disk and chroot to your installation. |
| 15:56.40 | thingfish | !fixmbr |
| 15:56.41 | dpkg | So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target), then chroot into it (chroot /target), then run "grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub". |
| 15:56.50 | thingfish | that's how ^^ |
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| 15:58.42 | DRD-tester | ty |
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| 15:58.52 | thingfish | no problem. |
| 15:59.07 | DRD-tester | however i didn't install windows (*vomit*) anyway ;) |
| 15:59.42 | thingfish | well of course ignore that part; I just knew the instructions for re-establishing your boot loader were in that factoid. |
| 15:59.58 | thingfish | dpkg is a bot. |
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| 16:00.16 | thingfish | It knows lots of things - /msg dpkg foo |
| 16:00.23 | kepplar | Hey does anyone here have the AMD 8132 chipset as a southbridge? |
| 16:00.33 | abrotman | i have three! |
| 16:00.44 | kepplar | hey abrotman :) |
| 16:00.52 | kepplar | abrotman: still no luck with the PCI-X :/ |
| 16:00.59 | abrotman | kepplar: really? |
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| 16:01.51 | tux | hi all :) |
| 16:01.57 | tux | I am supertux. |
| 16:02.00 | DRD-tester | "The file /boot/grub/stage1 is not read correctly." |
| 16:02.06 | d0ug | Hello supertux, I am Doug |
| 16:02.07 | abrotman | i am superdupertux! |
| 16:02.08 | prp | i remember there was an option in lilo to boot a kernel and if it faild to boot another one... i have a remote server and i don't know if the new kernel will boot.. what is the method of beening sure the box will boot |
| 16:02.31 | DRD-tester | what dpkg said didn't work ^^ |
| 16:02.34 | d0ug | superduperdoug has a better flow to it |
| 16:02.43 | stpeter | to tell tar show the extracted files? |
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| 16:02.54 | thingfish | DRD-tester: what happened to cause this situation? |
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| 16:03.30 | abrotman | prp: lilo -r ? |
| 16:03.39 | DRD-tester | actually no idea.tried o noot this morning and it gave me a "GRUB error 18" or something |
| 16:03.40 | abrotman | or maybe -R |
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| 16:04.17 | DRD-tester | however i can dd stage1 to /dev/null withoutproblems so it isn't a HD problem |
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| 16:04.27 | thingfish | DRD-tester: I don't know what you'd do next. Maybe ask abrotman - he might know. |
| 16:04.32 | prp | abrotman: /sbin/lilo -R - set default command line for next reboot |
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| 16:04.43 | ro0t | when I go from a debian linux 2.4 system to a linux 2.6 system, is there anything specific that I have to change or upgrade, besides the kernel itself? |
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| 16:04.45 | prp | abrotman: and what command should i give ? |
| 16:04.46 | abrotman | prp: is'nt that what you asked ? |
| 16:04.50 | pengol | how do I know the maximum values allowed for MTU on a gigabit interface? |
| 16:04.56 | abrotman | prp: iirc .. you tell it a kernel you want only for the next boot |
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| 16:06.00 | prp | abrotman: like if i have a kernel named linux-2.6.12 in conf file and do: lilo -R linux-2.6.12 it will load that one ? |
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| 16:06.16 | abrotman | prp: the man page should say .. i haven't used lilo .. in a long time |
| 16:06.53 | prp | abrotmanL it seams so, thanx |
| 16:07.08 | d0ug | doesn't lilo stand for a Lilo Is a Little Overrated? |
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| 16:08.05 | van-veen | hi |
| 16:08.13 | d0ug | hi |
| 16:08.17 | tomas_ | hi |
| 16:08.26 | d0ug | re |
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| 16:08.53 | d0ug | root has landed |
| 16:09.15 | van-veen | just trying my new knoppix machine |
| 16:09.23 | stpeter | argh tar have --exclude but no --include :( |
| 16:09.23 | cheese | Free Nude Pics: truetech.ws |
| 16:09.26 | cheese | Free Nude Pics: truetech.ws |
| 16:09.29 | cheese | Free Nude Pics: truetech.ws |
| 16:09.33 | stpeter | ehm |
| 16:09.34 | cheese | Free Nude Pics: truetech.ws |
| 16:09.35 | cheese | Free Nude Pics: truetech.ws |
| 16:09.38 | d0ug | thanks chese |
| 16:09.43 | stpeter | lol |
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| 16:10.21 | kepplar | where would our world be without newbs ;) |
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| 16:11.22 | abrotman | kepplar: probably living on jupiter ... |
| 16:11.24 | d0ug | i'm impressed that wiki has entries on bukkake and watersports and even more arcane stuff like enema fetishes |
| 16:11.27 | kepplar | abrotman: yea, sorry was afk just now. Not infront of the box today, had interview, but need to kill this problem. |
| 16:11.29 | abrotman | of course .. i'd weigh .. like .. 500lbs .. |
| 16:11.36 | d0ug | it's good they didn't shy away from enema fetishes, you know? |
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| 16:11.58 | van-veen | Quetionaire: 1) What debian do you use? 2) What environment (kde, gnome, fluxbox...)? |
| 16:12.09 | thingfish | !polls |
| 16:12.09 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 16:12.10 | vin` | !bad polls |
| 16:12.10 | dpkg | The reasons we hate polls are because: 1) they are a massive waste of IRC and bandwidth and screen real estate when asked in a 700 person channel. Did you want 700 answers? 2) They're often a prelude to isolating one helper and barraging him or her in /msg. BAD!, or 3) We don't care about Ubuntu, this is #debian |
| 16:12.11 | tux | debian tesning |
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| 16:12.24 | backblue | hi, what is the kernel sources package in debian? |
| 16:12.34 | abrotman | backblue: sarge/etch/sid ? |
| 16:12.34 | nkuttler | backblue: apt-cache search kernel source |
| 16:12.38 | tux | apt-cache search kernel-image |
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| 16:12.53 | tux | i use testing |
| 16:12.54 | thingfish | backblue: also look for linux-source, if you're upstream of sarge. |
| 16:12.57 | backblue | abrotman: unstable. |
| 16:13.01 | van-veen | Ok. No polls... (think your're right) |
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| 16:13.04 | backblue | thingfish: tks |
| 16:13.05 | d0ug | no longer called kernel images |
| 16:13.05 | abrotman | backblue: apt-cache search linux-source |
| 16:13.10 | GaiaX11 | How do i activate numlock at boot time in debian? |
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| 16:13.11 | abrotman | d0ug: in sarge they are |
| 16:13.11 | kimo | I moved to LVM, now kernel can't mount /, any help please ? |
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| 16:13.21 | d0ug | oh |
| 16:13.21 | kepplar | its changed to linux source |
| 16:13.24 | kepplar | etc |
| 16:13.36 | backblue | much tks |
| 16:13.40 | kepplar | kernel source goes up to about 2.6.8? |
| 16:13.46 | tux | GaiaX11 : first looks at your bios setting |
| 16:13.50 | backblue | 2.6.15 here |
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| 16:14.01 | tux | here is a link: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/17053-keyboard-numlock-always-off-startup.html |
| 16:14.18 | tux | but I haven't tried it yet |
| 16:14.20 | GaiaX11 | It's enabled already |
| 16:14.29 | tux | I have the same problem whith you, Gaia |
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| 16:15.03 | GaiaX11 | Yah! lots of people do. |
| 16:15.04 | abrotman | kepplar: it's a change for etch |
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| 16:15.25 | tux | maybe you can try the method in the link |
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| 16:17.04 | kimo | does anyone here has / over LVM! |
| 16:17.29 | thingfish | I thought /boot couldn't be on LVM. |
| 16:17.38 | sett | which command should i exec to run openoffice 2.0? |
| 16:17.46 | sett | installed it but have no idea |
| 16:17.50 | tux | openoffice |
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| 16:18.02 | sett | no such |
| 16:18.04 | kimo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:18.16 | tux | oowriter |
| 16:18.27 | sett | thank you |
| 16:18.30 | tomas_ | sett: locate office |grep bin should give you a hint |
| 16:18.38 | Kidman | moin |
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| 16:18.48 | Kidman | gibt es ein DVDshrink hnliches Prog unter gnome? |
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| 16:19.04 | sett | tomas don't want to run updatebd as have 400 gb disks mounted via network |
| 16:19.15 | nkuttler | Kidman: #debian.de |
| 16:19.23 | Kidman | oh sorry |
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| 16:19.33 | ufo | is the unstable packages badly broken? |
| 16:19.39 | tomas_ | sett: /usr/bin/openoffice |
| 16:20.05 | vin` | ufo: not too bad, why? |
| 16:20.08 | sett | tomas i've got oowriter but not openoffice |
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| 16:20.19 | tux | debian.de |
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| 16:20.38 | tux | ufo: yes |
| 16:21.00 | kimo | sett: updatedb ignore mounted FS, but I'm not if it's so in debian |
| 16:21.03 | tomas_ | sett: /usr/bin/ooffice |
| 16:21.04 | vin` | tux: which package? |
| 16:21.06 | ufo | vin`: im currently going to change my distro, and i think if it does work like it should, or should i choose ubuntu |
| 16:21.31 | vin` | ufo: it's all upto you. |
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| 16:21.49 | Fox | tux: how can someone answer 'yes' to 'is the unstable packages badly broken ?' |
| 16:21.49 | vin` | when you're ready for the grand daddy, come back. |
| 16:21.53 | Ronin | ufo: can you fix it when it breaks? |
| 16:21.55 | tux | vin: gnome |
| 16:22.12 | vin` | tux: eww. |
| 16:22.14 | noahlau | what is the difference between debian and ubuntu ? |
| 16:22.16 | sett | yes it is ooffce |
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| 16:22.21 | noahlau | they are similar |
| 16:22.24 | Ronin | noahlau: spelling for one thing |
| 16:22.39 | abrotman | goals |
| 16:22.45 | tux | gnome compose key is nolonger usable |
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| 16:23.40 | cheal | noahlau: ubuntu is a Debian fork. #ubuntu would know better the difference |
| 16:23.58 | FanthonX11 | How do i activate numlock at boot time? |
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| 16:24.07 | cisse | FanthonX11: in the bios |
| 16:24.08 | tux | testing would be better |
| 16:24.19 | noahlau | thx for let me know |
| 16:24.22 | ufo | ubunut does have too much their own things which does not allways work so well |
| 16:24.28 | tux | know what? |
| 16:24.37 | FanthonX11 | It's already on |
| 16:24.42 | Ronin | ufo: same with any distro, then it gets fixed |
| 16:24.51 | cisse | has anyone successfully used vservers with amd64 ? |
| 16:24.53 | FanthonX11 | But does not work |
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| 16:25.27 | cisse | tried turning it off ? |
| 16:26.18 | madona | Hi, Does anybody knows of some command line program to manipulate ppm images? cut , join , ect |
| 16:26.23 | abrotman | imagemagick ? |
| 16:26.28 | madona | ah |
| 16:26.34 | madona | I will see it |
| 16:26.35 | madona | thanks |
| 16:26.37 | abrotman | wtf is ppm ? |
| 16:26.53 | Ronin | parts per million? |
| 16:26.53 | madona | ppm is something like bmp |
| 16:27.28 | cheal | madona: $ dpkg -L netpbm|grep bin |
| 16:27.45 | madona | cheal thanks |
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| 16:28.00 | darkness- | startkeylogger |
| 16:28.09 | tux | ppm: portable pixelmap file format |
| 16:28.10 | tux | man ppm |
| 16:28.33 | vin` | darkness-: does that work? |
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| 16:29.19 | abrotman | darkness-: please go away |
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| 16:30.42 | bernardo | How do i rip a cd track?? |
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| 16:30.53 | stpeter | startkeylogger some trigger for tojan script? |
| 16:30.53 | tux | grip |
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| 16:31.11 | abrotman | stpeter: DON'T DO THAT |
| 16:31.12 | kimo | for symantec buggy apps |
| 16:31.14 | darkness- | I promise to behave. |
| 16:31.18 | abrotman | stpeter: it's a good way to get klined |
| 16:31.26 | stpeter | :) |
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| 16:31.54 | darkness- | bearperson, please don't private me. |
| 16:32.01 | cheal | stpeter: yeah, the trojan being a Windoze antivirus software |
| 16:32.05 | tomas_ | well remember the old dcc request with global ctcp? |
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| 16:32.17 | abrotman | darkness-: he's not in this channel tard |
| 16:32.18 | fluxdude | what's happened to torsmo in the debian Sid apt repository? I can find conky but not torsmo, has conky completely replaced it? |
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| 16:32.27 | bernardo | How do i rip a cd track?? |
| 16:32.37 | wireddd | is there some kind of web gui you can install to manage a iptables based nat router? |
| 16:32.38 | riftman | bernardo, grip |
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| 16:32.44 | Ronin | cant belive morons are still trying that exploit |
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| 16:33.06 | quitte | wireddd: fwbuilder but it's not a web gui |
| 16:33.09 | epsilon | Ronin: that's why they are called moron |
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| 16:33.17 | stpeter | cheal: eh eh stupid boot, better try at #windows :) |
| 16:33.18 | Ronin | epsilon: true |
| 16:33.24 | stpeter | how can i extract from a tar archive only files in /bin? |
| 16:33.24 | vin` | Ronin: http://www.orkspace.net/owned/ |
| 16:33.48 | cheal | fluxdude: http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/torsmo/news/20060112T142000Z.html |
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| 16:33.59 | bernardo | riftman: thanx |
| 16:33.59 | darkness- | Leave it out abrotman. |
| 16:34.09 | Ronin | vin`: ya |
| 16:34.22 | sjjaniak | I am looking to make a web/database/mail server using debian, any1 have any package reccomendations |
| 16:34.31 | abrotman | darkness-: huh ? |
| 16:34.43 | abrotman | !any1 |
| 16:34.43 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 16:34.46 | petemc | sjjaniak: apache/postgresql/exim4 |
| 16:34.51 | kimo | sjjaniak: apache/mysql/postfix !! |
| 16:35.05 | abrotman | do not use mysql |
| 16:35.06 | cisse | sjjaniak: same as petemc except postfix instead of exim |
| 16:35.17 | abrotman | APP! |
| 16:35.23 | kimo | abrotman: why not |
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| 16:35.33 | cisse | kimo: licensing issues, postgres is a better DB |
| 16:35.35 | qweo | Anybody can tell how to apply some error corrections on the Debian site (not on english version,on translation.) I emailed the translation cordinators,but don't get any reply (sory for my awull engish) |
| 16:35.37 | abrotman | kimo: it's utter crap? :) |
| 16:35.44 | ufo | hmm.... ok... |
| 16:35.46 | ircdevil | where is peterS? |
| 16:35.50 | abrotman | qweo: you have to file bugs |
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| 16:35.53 | ircdevil | PEEEETEEEERS ? |
| 16:36.00 | abrotman | ircdevil: been busy you'd think eh? |
| 16:36.01 | riftman | vin`, owned that i nice way to play a foke |
| 16:36.05 | kimo | cisse: I thought postgres has the license issues!! |
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| 16:36.23 | ircdevil | abrotman: dunno - is that important? |
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| 16:36.29 | sjjaniak | also i am looking for some sort of collaboration application for collaboration (similar to exchange or openexchange) any suggestions on that also? |
| 16:36.30 | abrotman | that he's busy? |
| 16:36.47 | ircdevil | and jm_ is away too? |
| 16:36.47 | petemc | sjjaniak: kolab is easy to get going |
| 16:36.50 | Ronin | ./whois vin` |
| 16:36.50 | ircdevil | hrmph |
| 16:36.51 | vin` | riftman: s/foke/fake, yeah. |
| 16:36.53 | Ronin | lol |
| 16:37.00 | Ronin | and i do a lol? man i need a break today |
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| 16:38.35 | neuterspay | What's up guys. |
| 16:39.14 | neuterspay | Does everyone here use FireFox? Or do some use Konqueror or Epiphany with much success? |
| 16:39.27 | wireddd | neuterspay, I use firefox |
| 16:39.33 | sjjaniak | Epiphany is quirky for me |
| 16:39.49 | neuterspay | What about flash and firefox being all funky with Linux? |
| 16:39.54 | neuterspay | And Java issues? |
| 16:40.03 | neuterspay | Is konqueror any better about that kind of thing? |
| 16:40.08 | wireddd | well I installed java |
| 16:40.13 | ircdevil | neuterspay: firefox is cool |
| 16:40.21 | sjjaniak | konquerer seems ok but few on features |
| 16:40.21 | wireddd | sun java that is |
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| 16:40.26 | neuterspay | I had firefox on my last debian install -- |
| 16:40.47 | sjjaniak | how'd you like it? |
| 16:40.51 | neuterspay | Kept bugging me about installing newly availible plugins and crap - how do you get rid of that? |
| 16:41.01 | wireddd | I do have occasional problems with flash, but 99% of the time it works great |
| 16:41.15 | neuterspay | It was alright I decided to ask because I remember finding that a couple people are konqueror fanatics. |
| 16:41.17 | neuterspay | In here. |
| 16:41.20 | cisse | kimo: well postgres might have some, but mysql is the one that wants the loot for any business use |
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| 16:41.36 | wireddd | neuterspay, I bet you will find more in #kde |
| 16:41.37 | cisse | kimo: postgresql is bsd style |
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| 16:42.07 | kimo | cisse: cool! duh, I thought postgres was better but commercial! I'm going postgres :) |
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| 16:42.50 | CamaleonX11 | How to enable numlock at boot. In my bios it is already on. |
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| 16:42.55 | azeem | kimo: http://people.debian.org/~mbanck/photos/fosdem_2006/img036.jpeg |
| 16:43.00 | neuterspay | Thanks wireddd. |
| 16:43.03 | sjjaniak | neuterspay: Konqueror is pretty good for an all around browser |
| 16:43.26 | neuterspay | One problem though sjjaniak; I can't get it to open at a homepage. |
| 16:43.31 | neuterspay | I can only get it to open to greyness. |
| 16:43.33 | azeem | cauchy1: please turn off noise away |
| 16:43.34 | kimo | CamaleonX11: apt-cache search numlock |
| 16:43.35 | neuterspay | Or that intro page. |
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| 16:43.56 | buffoon | does anybody have experience with the amd64 sarge? As I've seen this is not official, but does it work good? |
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| 16:44.12 | azeem | buffoon: it works good, yes |
| 16:44.12 | cheal | !tell buffoon about amd64 |
| 16:44.45 | kimo | azeem: funny that other one, heh :) So, if its worse & not as free, why do people mention mysql! |
| 16:45.17 | neuterspay | -m /join #kde |
| 16:45.19 | sjjaniak | neuterspay: not totally up on konquerer, but there is a config file that may help you out |
| 16:45.29 | neuterspay | Alright. |
| 16:45.33 | neuterspay | I'm a retard. |
| 16:45.37 | neuterspay | ^^ look at that shit. |
| 16:45.42 | neuterspay | I just actually failed out of my school today. |
| 16:45.49 | neuterspay | Officially. I'm such a retard. |
| 16:45.58 | wireddd | lol |
| 16:46.19 | nvz | do you like get a letter in the mail when its official? |
| 16:46.37 | d0ug | maybe there are deeper underlying self esteem issues behind your poor performance and not your intelligence |
| 16:46.40 | sjjaniak | i dropped out 6 mos. ago |
| 16:46.42 | wireddd | with a good seal of authenticity |
| 16:46.45 | neuterspay | No but it's no longer "dude I flunked out" it's "you're not allowed to re-register cause we don't want you coming back" |
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| 16:46.59 | neuterspay | d0ug; It's wayyyyyy too much to even try to like... |
| 16:47.08 | dareth | You weren't playing MMORPG were you? Modern day muds! *grin* |
| 16:47.14 | neuterspay | I do way more than just school~ though I shouldn't. Poor discipline. |
| 16:47.20 | neuterspay | Ooooh. Roomate plays WoW 24/7 |
| 16:47.21 | neuterspay | Not me. |
| 16:47.45 | neuterspay | He was up all last night on Shattered Hand. I was up all night installing 2.6 sarge debian |
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| 16:48.01 | sjjaniak | looks like it community college 4 me |
| 16:48.03 | cisse | buffoon: i'm running it on a few of my servers, i'm happy with it, some things aren't ported to 64 bit like mplayer and firefox so you generally chroot a 32 bit install inside of it, overall very fast and stable |
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| 16:48.11 | dareth | me old uni wouldn't let you register if you owed 15 cents for a library fine. Or give out transcripts if you done and owe. |
| 16:48.25 | neuterspay | sjjaniak; me too |
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| 16:48.32 | neuterspay | That's fucked dareth. |
| 16:48.55 | petemc | the simple answer would be to pay the fine |
| 16:48.57 | amee2k | what package contains GRUBs stage1 ? (it isn't grub. already reinstalled this one) |
| 16:49.11 | dareth | college/uni all about money and business... educating students is a burden... have to herd the cattle.. students. |
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| 16:49.32 | wireddd | dareth, I agree |
| 16:50.04 | sjjaniak | neuterspay: what hardware do you run debian on |
| 16:50.05 | buffoon | cisse: oh, thx. Mplayer on 64 isn't that good I think, because there ain't working the w32codecs I think... But I'll do the 32bit chroot also because its better to use flash for some pages... :) |
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| 16:50.15 | cisse | buffoon: exactly |
| 16:50.26 | dareth | I needed one class to graduate...took it at another uni.. way better school, wish I had known ahead of time... Quarter system beats semester system! |
| 16:50.32 | Red_Cloud | I was having problems whenever I upgraded to testing from sarge. So I reinstalled sarge. The install seemed to go well with no problems, but now I cannot get my GUI login screen to activate. I have installed kdm. Help? |
| 16:50.39 | cisse | buffoon: i just got vservers working on amd64 as well so i'm running virtual chrooted 32 bit installs that are very fast |
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| 16:50.51 | wireddd | dareth, absolutely |
| 16:51.01 | dareth | you get an error when you try startx ? |
| 16:51.11 | buffoon | cisse: is it faster to run a 64bit system? |
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| 16:51.20 | cheal | Red_Cloud: what do you mean by activate? |
| 16:51.28 | dareth | They cancelled my last class.. and it was a once a year class at that, Kept 6 people from graduating! |
| 16:51.40 | cisse | buffoon: yes i think so, otherwise you don't take advantage of the extra registers and so on |
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| 16:51.55 | buffoon | yes, I hope so :) |
| 16:52.04 | neuterspay | sjjaniak; 768mb XMS corsair 400mhz ram, 2600 amd athlon xp 400mhz, ati agp radeon 9000 64mb pro, abit nf7-s 400 fsb board |
| 16:52.07 | nuxien | sorry, i do not speack english very well, but i need help about libdvdcss paquage |
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| 16:52.16 | azeem | !marillat |
| 16:52.16 | dpkg | well, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> |
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| 16:52.19 | abrotman | nuxien: what do you speak? |
| 16:52.20 | Red_Cloud | cheal, my system boots only into command mode. I can login as root or used but cannot activate my KDE GUI. |
| 16:52.20 | neuterspay | Two 80 gb hdds with 8mb buffer, ide. |
| 16:52.32 | Red_Cloud | *user |
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| 16:52.53 | nuxien | abrotman, french but on debian-fr, i bored by no response |
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| 16:52.59 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 16:53.03 | tomas__ | is there anyone that has got vloopback working? |
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| 16:53.19 | Red_Cloud | cheal, I have the install manual at hand but have found nothing that would address this problem |
| 16:53.33 | cheal | Red_Cloud: are you able to start X? |
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| 16:54.08 | khanreaper | Hello, I have in the process of creating a custom apt repository for my organization to host several in-house packages, and I am having some difficulties with apt and gpg signing. I have built my debian packages with gpg signing and have apt-key added the public key that was used for the signing, yet apt still reports that the packages cannot be authenticated. Why could this be? Is this something to do with the debian packages themselves or with my cu |
| 16:54.11 | nuxien | totem want libdvdcss paquage, i was install libdvdcss2 but no result, do you have an idea ? |
| 16:54.32 | cisse | khanrepear: what are you using to manage your repo ? |
| 16:54.41 | nuxien | i cannot read dvd video crypted |
| 16:54.45 | tux | anyone using compose key? |
| 16:54.49 | azeem | khanreaper: how are you gpg signing your packages? |
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| 16:55.04 | sjjaniak | neuterspay: Comp 1: 512MB ddr400 P4 @ 2.66GHz w/ 120GB HDD, Comp 2: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ w/ 1GB DDR400 Mem + 250GB HDD + ATI agp 8x 9800 Pro, DFI KM400A |
| 16:55.23 | cheal | nuxien: why do you say that "totem want libdvdcss paquage", not that paquetage is package in English |
| 16:55.24 | khanreaper | azeem: I am letting debuild produce my packages. |
| 16:55.33 | azeem | khanreaper: this does not sign them |
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| 16:55.36 | Red_Cloud | cheal, yes I believe so. I think that I tried it yesterday but will boot into Linux and try it again. The command would be "X server"? |
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| 16:55.41 | azeem | khanreaper: it signs the .changes |
| 16:55.52 | SimonRaven | wth sends http commands to an smtp port ... |
| 16:55.55 | cheal | nuxien: sorry. I meant "why do you say that "totem want libdvdcss paquage"? note that paquetage is package in English" |
| 16:56.01 | khanreaper | azeem: Ok, that helps me a lot actually. How do I go about signing the packages themselves? |
| 16:56.07 | azeem | khanreaper: what you need is a sign Release file in your repo, which references the md5sum of the Packages file |
| 16:56.15 | SimonRaven | A: someone braindead |
| 16:56.18 | azeem | s/is a/is to/ |
| 16:56.18 | cheal | Red_Cloud: try # startx |
| 16:56.19 | mist | which package provides /usr/include/fam.h |
| 16:56.33 | azeem | mist: libgamin-dev and fam-dev I think |
| 16:56.44 | azeem | mist: packages.debian.org has a search facility |
| 16:57.00 | sjjaniak | any1 have ne suggestions for an av solution: Ive tried Clam and AVG just came out, so idk which to choose |
| 16:57.00 | mist | hmm |
| 16:57.02 | mist | ok |
| 16:57.06 | Red_Cloud | cheal, will do. Be back in a few. |
| 16:57.17 | nuxien | cheal, when i want see dvd video crypted, totem stop playing and print an error message |
| 16:57.19 | Fanthon | Why is that every time I want to open synaptic from the command line i have to do a xhost + command? Is there a way of configuring it only once? |
| 16:57.21 | khanreaper | azeem: Since I am not very savy with gpg, could you give me a quick example as to how I would do this? |
| 16:57.29 | azeem | khanreaper: never did it myself |
| 16:57.42 | SimonRaven | sjjaniak: you can spare us the text messaging shorthand, please? |
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| 16:57.55 | azeem | khanreaper: the first thing you need is an apt-repo-generation program which produces Release files as well, if you do not have them already |
| 16:58.02 | cheal | nuxien: what does $ dpkg -l libdvdcss2|grep ii; return? |
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| 16:58.56 | sjjaniak | SimonRaven: sure, but does anyone know the answer |
| 16:59.04 | pezz_ | clam |
| 16:59.12 | SimonRaven | i like clamav |
| 16:59.22 | nickname00 | Fanthon, synaptic must be run as root, so root must be able to aceess the X screens |
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| 16:59.43 | neuterspay | ClamAV |
| 16:59.54 | ircdevil | amazing stuff |
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| 17:00.14 | nickname00 | Fanthon, better is "xhost + loaclhost" |
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| 17:00.22 | ircdevil | peterS: yo! guess what! |
| 17:00.25 | nickname00 | Fanthon, better is "xhost + loaclahost" |
| 17:00.31 | sjjaniak | has anyone have anything about KlamAV (the gui for ClamAV) It runs on KDE i guess, but i have a client running Mandriva who swears by it |
| 17:00.33 | SimonRaven | @kill xhost |
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| 17:00.38 | SimonRaven | @xhost |
| 17:00.38 | ravenbird | xhost is, like, ask me about mit-magic-cookie, or read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz before even thinking about using the "xhost" command ask me about "sshx","nolisten" if you're mule-headed |
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| 17:01.15 | pezz_ | Betcha the klamav page has a bit of info |
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| 17:02.00 | GoAuLd | bridge |
| 17:02.17 | sjjaniak | i was looking for someone who has actually used it, and the site shows minimal (NO) actual testimonials |
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| 17:02.31 | wireddd | whats the point of having an antivirus program on linux? |
| 17:02.46 | abrotman | you can scan emails for your windows clients .. for starters |
| 17:02.49 | sepski | wireddd, to remove windows viruses from customers email |
| 17:02.57 | wireddd | ok |
| 17:03.08 | SimonRaven | to not spread to windoze machines, or remove them |
| 17:03.24 | pezz_ | it's not like linux virii are non-existent either |
| 17:03.26 | SimonRaven | or outright block them :) |
| 17:03.32 | sepski | wireddd, or remove viruses in your proxy. or on your samba server |
| 17:03.36 | SimonRaven | oh wow, all of 2 of them |
| 17:03.40 | sjjaniak | you can also scan files stored on linux when using the box as a file server |
| 17:03.46 | pezz_ | well yeh |
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| 17:04.14 | wireddd | I don't have any windows machines anymore so i'm not concerned |
| 17:04.22 | tux | after I updated gnome, the compose key won't work anymore. Has anyone encounter the same problem? |
| 17:04.56 | sjjaniak | not me... |
| 17:05.06 | amee2k | wtf is the 'compose key'? |
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| 17:05.33 | sjjaniak | what do you think of Sun's new move of making solaris 10 free to anyone... |
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| 17:05.51 | stpeter | there some antivir realtime monitor for linux to use on samba file server machine? |
| 17:05.52 | SimonRaven | lets you do accents and such by typing more than one key. it's common on Real Keyboards |
| 17:05.55 | tux | it's a feature of X. you can easily input accented letters in french, etc |
| 17:06.04 | abrotman | sjjaniak: it's OT here |
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| 17:06.12 | neuterspay | Solaris 10 is free? |
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| 17:06.19 | tux | it gratis |
| 17:06.19 | sjjaniak | now it is |
| 17:06.20 | lovix | ./list |
| 17:06.25 | neuterspay | That's really badass - didn't hear about that. Eeeeeba! |
| 17:06.27 | lovix | list |
| 17:06.29 | SimonRaven | !list |
| 17:06.29 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to simonraven@is.a.fucktard.com |
| 17:06.37 | zafer_ | sdf |
| 17:06.39 | SimonRaven | lovix: ^^ |
| 17:06.40 | dareth | go hang out on #solaris real friendly channel |
| 17:06.46 | ircdevil | who wants solaris when you can have linux? |
| 17:06.48 | SimonRaven | asshole ... |
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| 17:07.05 | petemc | ircdevil: plenty of people.. |
| 17:07.06 | yggdrasil | hello, ive got a drive partitioned with one 2 ntfs partitions and ext3 / and a swap, with 23 gb of unpartitioned space at the end. cfdisk says that the 23 gb part is unusable ? i need it now . can somone help me get a partition on it? |
| 17:07.06 | tux | I cannont use compose key :( |
| 17:07.10 | stpeter | some differences between solaris linux? |
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| 17:07.44 | ircdevil | petemc: i have just been forced to use solaris9 for some task. i find it most confusing. i miss my debian :o( |
| 17:08.23 | wireddd | I think #solaris is dead, lots of people but noone talking |
| 17:08.31 | petemc | ircdevil: better the devil you know |
| 17:08.41 | nuxien | cheal, ii libdvdcss2 1.2.8-1 portable abstraction library for DVD decryption |
| 17:08.41 | yggdrasil | whats a good console based torrent downloader ? |
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| 17:09.46 | tux | apt-get shows error often. it's frustrating. |
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| 17:10.56 | tux | no |
| 17:11.00 | tux | typo |
| 17:11.04 | wireddd | it would be kinda cool to see someone setup a repository system that used bt |
| 17:11.11 | cheal | nuxien: I don't see why totem would do that then. you restarted it, I guess...? |
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| 17:11.28 | nkuttler | yggdrasil: bittornado, rtorrent |
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| 17:11.36 | danton | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.39 | nuxien | y restarted totem ten or fiveteen time |
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| 17:11.44 | yggdrasil | thatnks |
| 17:11.49 | yggdrasil | i got bittornado |
| 17:11.54 | neuterspay | yggdrasil; Nice name... :) |
| 17:11.56 | yggdrasil | ill test i out |
| 17:11.59 | yggdrasil | thanks |
| 17:12.05 | yggdrasil | i am the tree of life |
| 17:12.10 | dareth | norse |
| 17:12.13 | yggdrasil | i bind heve and hell |
| 17:12.25 | fluxdude | does anyone know why torsmo was removed from unstable? the page I've seen only says that it has been (I think it's an auto-generated page) |
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| 17:13.24 | dareth | Funny, most yggdrasil I seem to see all have sharp teeth and are people eating trees... *grin* |
| 17:13.41 | yggdrasil | thanks |
| 17:13.44 | yggdrasil | hehe |
| 17:13.48 | yggdrasil | hello, ive got a drive partitioned with one 2 ntfs partitions and ext3 / and a swap, with 23 gb of unpartitioned space at the end. cfdisk says that the 23 gb part is unusable ? i need it now . can somone help me get a partition on it? |
| 17:13.52 | cheal | fluxdude: see the bug report mentionned on that page |
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| 17:14.19 | sett | why use torsmo when there is conky |
| 17:14.21 | nuxien | cheal, i restarted totem lot of time, but i do not restart Xfree or not reboot computer |
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| 17:14.46 | loggygreg | yggdrasil: how many pertitons have you and have you an extended partition ? |
| 17:14.47 | pavier | salu les PD |
| 17:14.49 | cheal | nuxien: I don't think that's relevant. could you paste totem's output? |
| 17:14.59 | yggdrasil | thers four |
| 17:15.08 | neuterspay | I just thought of something; say you had " http://geocities.com/pr0phecy_x/ " Can you somehow use wget and a wordlist or numberlist or something to get things like http://geocities.com/pr0phecy_x/fight.jpg ? |
| 17:15.08 | yggdrasil | and um i dont see any exte4nded parts |
| 17:15.09 | jonathan` | for some strange reason my smbfs mount to the windows machine in our office stopped working, and now when i try to mount it says could not resolve mount point /server01/mysql |
| 17:15.13 | neuterspay | I mean, to scan for images? |
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| 17:15.34 | loggygreg | yggdrasil: you can only create 4 primary partitions |
| 17:15.35 | fluxdude | I was using torsmo a little while ago, is it dead in the water already? |
| 17:15.36 | nuxien | cheal, the error message? |
| 17:15.38 | petemc | jonathan`: perhaps you've got the command back to front |
| 17:15.39 | yggdrasil | shoot |
| 17:15.46 | yggdrasil | yea they are all primary |
| 17:15.50 | pavier | is there a dog in is pussy ? |
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| 17:15.58 | cheal | nuxien: yeah, and maybe the full output would tell more |
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| 17:16.09 | yggdrasil | so id have to delete one oof them huh |
| 17:16.21 | jonathan` | petemc, it was the same command i used previously to mount the machine |
| 17:16.22 | pavier | mé ya ke de la trainé ou koi la dedan ? |
| 17:16.30 | loggygreg | yggdrasil: delete a partion and create an extended partion such that you can create new partition on it |
| 17:16.42 | yggdrasil | ok thanks |
| 17:16.45 | yggdrasil | thats odd though |
| 17:17.09 | buffoon | yggdrasil: on the extended partition you can add how many partitions you want |
| 17:17.11 | yggdrasil | i guesse i could dump the swap since thig box has a gig of ram. |
| 17:17.15 | pavier | vs parlé ke de coneries ou koi ? |
| 17:17.30 | loggygreg | !fr |
| 17:17.30 | dpkg | well, fr is Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debianfr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debianfr |
| 17:17.45 | nuxien | grrr dvd video run correctly, i dont know why, i do not modify paquage or configuration |
| 17:17.58 | valdyn | !tell nuxien -about ask |
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| 17:19.39 | nuxien | cheal, sorry for disturbance |
| 17:19.40 | yggdrasil | only stable file system that windowsxp and debian can access is fat32 ? |
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| 17:19.57 | resiak | It's the only one both can read and write |
| 17:20.10 | yggdrasil | right and of course like just fat |
| 17:20.11 | resiak | You can get ext2/3 drivers for Windows, some of which claim to be able to write |
| 17:20.11 | nuxien | thank you for help, bye all |
| 17:20.11 | yggdrasil | thatnks |
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| 17:20.17 | cisse | hrm just chrooted bind, and now i can't do an rndc reload, haev a symlink from /etc/bind/ -> /var/lib/named/etc/bind/, any ideas ? |
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| 17:20.20 | cheal | nuxien: ok |
| 17:20.25 | resiak | And you can do a few rudimentary writes to NTFS from Linux |
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| 17:21.01 | Zrin | is it possible to change debian file system charset to UTF-8? |
| 17:21.15 | sepski | yggdrasil, you will still see performance increase from having a swap partition |
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| 17:21.17 | thingfish | Zrin: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 17:21.46 | fluxdude | I haven't really used the BTS so could someone please explain why torsmo was removed, since it is not stated on the following page http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/torsmo/news/20060112T142000Z.html which is a bit rediculous. It just says the bug has been fixed torsmo has been removed... |
| 17:22.05 | fluxdude | what bug, why removed? |
| 17:22.17 | Zrin | thingfish: but that won't change the way the file names are stored in the file system (?) |
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| 17:23.55 | valdyn | fluxdude: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=342919 |
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| 17:24.23 | jonathan` | When I try to mount manually with the full command to an smbfs mount, it tells me tree connect failed: ERSRV - ERRbadpw (Bad psasword - name/password pair in a Tree Connect or Session Setup are invalid), but I'm positive the password is correct |
| 17:26.25 | Phlexonan | dpkg tells me to add contrib and non-free to my sources.list (before installing azureus) but doesnt specify which exactly |
| 17:27.02 | valdyn | !non-free |
| 17:27.02 | dpkg | [non-free] always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html |
| 17:27.06 | stpeter | there is some undelete for ext2? |
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| 17:27.37 | valdyn | Phlexonan: it said "a" line, what's hard to understand about that? |
| 17:27.55 | sepski | stpeter, aye, but if you actualy used ext3 then no it wont work |
| 17:28.09 | sepski | !undelete |
| 17:28.09 | dpkg | [undelete] great with Midnight Commander (mc). Just unmount the fs and select "Undelete files" in mc, or doesn't work for journalled filesystems; that's the point of journalling, after all |
| 17:28.16 | Phlexonan | valdyn: excuse me? |
| 17:28.34 | stpeter | ok thx |
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| 17:30.43 | ZantaF | im thinking on installing debian but i want to know if my SATA dvd rom will be supported (i tried installing slackware and although the kernel with SATA support saw my sata hd it didnt see the dvd rom even though it booted from it!) |
| 17:31.02 | valdyn | Zrin: linux filesystems do not use and are not aware of charsets |
| 17:31.23 | Knight_Lord | ZantaF depends on kernel. You have to know if 2.6.8 supports your DVD |
| 17:31.32 | Zrin | valdyn: so it is just up to terminal how file names will be represented? |
| 17:31.44 | valdyn | Zrin: yea |
| 17:31.48 | ZantaF | Knight_Lord, is there a list of supported hardware i can look at? |
| 17:31.54 | ZantaF | for that kernel |
| 17:31.59 | Knight_Lord | I don't know |
| 17:32.02 | ZantaF | ok |
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| 17:32.10 | Knight_Lord | ZantaF you might try to ask around |
| 17:32.13 | Knight_Lord | and google |
| 17:32.22 | ZantaF | googling just now :) |
| 17:32.43 | Knight_Lord | what's the model? |
| 17:32.44 | ZantaF | i know it works with mandriva 2006 |
| 17:32.51 | Zrin | valdyn: I'm using mostly a ssh client and when I create files with in the name, the result is different that (UTF-8) encoding which is used when the files are created through samba |
| 17:32.52 | ZantaF | its a plextor 716SA |
| 17:33.12 | Zrin | valdyn: what is the recommended approach to solve this problem? |
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| 17:33.28 | chaica | hi, I'm looking for an mail account with a non-profit organization about 1gigabyte, do you have any idea? |
| 17:33.54 | Zrin | valdyn: the next problem is rsync ... and so on |
| 17:34.11 | valdyn | Zrin: the smb filesystem is stupid in that aspect so you need to specify the charset that was used when creating the filenames when mounting that share |
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| 17:35.01 | valdyn | Zrin: like 'mount -t smbfs -o codepage=foo ... |
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| 17:35.07 | Zrin | valdyn: is it possible to bring samba and debian to agree on how file names will be encoded? |
| 17:35.34 | Zrin | valdyn: I'm using samba server, client issues are not important for me at the moment |
| 17:35.41 | sjjaniak | anyone know any alternatives to kolab |
| 17:35.51 | valdyn | Zrin: no, wrong , samba doesnt care, the only thing relevant is which codepage was used when creating a specific file |
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| 17:36.10 | yggdrasil | buffon logical partition would be ok ? |
| 17:36.27 | valdyn | Zrin: you could easily have every possible charset used on the same samba share, making looking all correct impossible.. |
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| 17:36.51 | buffoon | yggdrasil, yes, a logical partition is a partition within a extended partition |
| 17:36.56 | valdyn | Zrin: the clients are creating your issues |
| 17:36.56 | ZantaF | just a quick question on the dvd install, im looking in the ftp dir at the moment for 3.1r1, do i need both dvd discs? |
| 17:37.04 | yggdrasil | hmmm |
| 17:37.05 | Zrin | valdyn: i understand ... is there a way to convert filenames from one encoding to another in-place? |
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| 17:37.36 | valdyn | Zrin: sed / mv |
| 17:37.36 | Zrin | valdyn: now i have part of the files in utf-8, another part in iso-8859-15 ... |
| 17:37.40 | sjjaniak | I need to create an all in one server, print/file/mail/database/Antivirus does anyone have any additional comments/suggestions |
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| 17:38.43 | valdyn | Zrin: or maybe 'recode' and 'mv', i think you need to do a tiny bit of shell scripting anyway |
| 17:38.54 | Zrin | valdyn: I assume sed does not have built-in conversion, so I'll have to find appropriate script (?) |
| 17:39.11 | valdyn | Zrin: correct, thats why i bring up recode |
| 17:39.38 | Zrin | valdyn: i understand - thank you |
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| 17:40.30 | buffoon | hmm, the amd64 sarge debian installer (I downloaded the netinst image) won't run, because it seems that there is a problem to read the cd... |
| 17:40.40 | buffoon | I also checked the md5sum and it was OK |
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| 17:41.14 | toad_ | ssh -X and sux are broken for me ... any idea how to debug? i'm on sarge ... |
| 17:41.45 | bernardo | I cant compile my C code with gcc, i dont know whats wrong but the error message says (syntax error before '<' token ) |
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| 17:42.05 | toad_ | bernardo: maybe there's a syntax error? what does the line say? |
| 17:42.39 | loggygreg | toad_: may be ? sure |
| 17:42.41 | bernardo | toad_: i know, but the only thing that is before the '<' token is "#include" |
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| 17:42.55 | bernardo | toad_: it doesnt make sense |
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| 17:43.13 | toad_ | hmmm, no idea, maybe header problems |
| 17:43.28 | toad_ | you did leave a space between #include and <header.h> ? |
| 17:43.41 | bernardo | toad_: do i have to specify the location of the headers or something? |
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| 17:44.02 | toad_ | no |
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| 17:44.22 | toad_ | anyone got any idea why my X seems to have broken? |
| 17:44.37 | bernardo | toad_: it is in /usr/include |
| 17:44.41 | toad_ | if i create an xterm directly from an existing konsole, it works |
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| 17:44.53 | toad_ | if i sux <user>, then try to make an xterm, it breaks |
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| 17:44.59 | buffoon | cisse, did you install your servers with the netinst image? |
| 17:45.00 | toad_ | if i ssh -X the same user, it still breaks |
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| 17:45.29 | toad_ | X11Forwarding is enabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 17:45.35 | toad_ | any ideas? |
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| 17:46.30 | sepski | toad_, yes you should say what error messages ytou get instead of saying "it breaks" since that tells us nothing |
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| 17:46.43 | toad_ | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 17:46.44 | toad_ | Xlib: No protocol specified |
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| 17:47.11 | toad_ | xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0 |
| 17:47.26 | bernardo | Does anyone knows if there is an IDE for gcc?? |
| 17:47.31 | toad_ | it's slightly different with ssh -X, it says: |
| 17:47.35 | toad_ | X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. |
| 17:47.35 | toad_ | X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). |
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| 17:48.17 | toad_ | ssh -v -X shows that it did at least try to forward it: debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. |
| 17:48.37 | toad_ | any ideas? might be a perversity of NFS ... |
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| 17:49.07 | Bulb | dimes |
| 17:49.20 | toad_ | eh? |
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| 17:50.38 | dimes | BUlb |
| 17:50.41 | dimes | Bulb |
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| 17:51.24 | toad_ | ah |
| 17:51.30 | Bulb | :) |
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| 17:51.44 | Bulb | we are testing :P |
| 17:51.59 | dimes | yeah |
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| 17:53.13 | Bulb | bye |
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| 17:56.41 | leipepo | hmmzz |
| 17:56.52 | leipepo | good evening |
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| 17:57.18 | backblue | hi, i'm with debian unstable, which one is? sid sarge etch? |
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| 17:57.36 | grendal_prime | paranoia the destroyer...the kinks...totally rocks |
| 17:57.40 | buffoon | backblue, sid == unstable |
| 17:57.41 | tchino | hello |
| 17:57.46 | backblue | buffoon: k, tks. |
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| 17:58.11 | tchino | hello |
| 17:58.27 | tchino | tchino IDENTYFY |
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| 17:58.51 | tchino | how can i set my nickname under irc |
| 17:59.07 | Eulex | tchino, /nick foo |
| 17:59.25 | leipepo | does debian has a dns kinda thing? |
| 17:59.34 | leipepo | to add and modyfie stuff |
| 17:59.49 | bernardo | Does anyone knows a good C/C++ IDE?? please |
| 17:59.55 | tchino | how can i set my nickname under irc |
| 17:59.55 | leipepo | my localhost is now: localhost.localdomain |
| 17:59.57 | Eulex | bernardo, anjuta? |
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| 18:00.10 | bernardo | Eulex: is it good? |
| 18:00.12 | Eulex | tchino, already answered you. |
| 18:00.25 | Eulex | bernardo, yep, kinda. it's the best that I know of. |
| 18:00.29 | leipepo | and i really wast it to be: *.localhost, where *=username |
| 18:00.41 | tchino | test |
| 18:00.48 | bernardo | Eulex: does it runs on X? |
| 18:00.57 | Eulex | bernardo, yes, it's a gtk2 app |
| 18:01.20 | bernardo | Eulex: oh...ok thanx a lot! |
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| 18:03.22 | tchino | hello, when i start kde under debian, it logs in with a black screen and then i come back to the login-screen, waht is wrong |
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| 18:04.09 | KsiLaptop | hello, I'm having problems getting my onboard Broadcom NetXtreme card working. The tg3 module doesn't seem to work. |
| 18:04.09 | typewriter | is there a release schedule for sid? |
| 18:04.31 | cheal | typewriter: yes. never |
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| 18:04.36 | Ronin | didnt think sid ever gets released |
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| 18:05.27 | KsiLaptop | Anyone have luck with the 57xx cards? |
| 18:05.29 | fluxdude | si never gets released, it's ongoing unstable. in fact, I think it's just a link to unstable... |
| 18:05.37 | fluxdude | sid i mean |
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| 18:05.46 | toad_ | what's wrong with my x windows? i can't ssh -X or sux to another user then run an xterm ... but i can do it from the pre-existing konsole... i get errors: for sux it's: |
| 18:05.49 | toad_ | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 18:05.50 | toad_ | Xlib: No protocol specified |
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| 18:06.14 | toad_ | and for ssh -X it's: |
| 18:06.15 | Ronin | typewriter: when apps are "stablish" they get moved to testing |
| 18:06.20 | toad_ | X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. |
| 18:06.20 | toad_ | The application 'firefox-bin' lost its connection to the display localhost:11.0; |
| 18:06.20 | toad_ | most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed |
| 18:06.31 | typewriter | but i thought they next stable release of debian would be codenamed sid |
| 18:06.37 | typewriter | after it's been moved along |
| 18:06.52 | Ronin | next stable will be etch |
| 18:06.53 | toad_ | no |
| 18:06.58 | KsiLaptop | I'm having problems getting my onboard Broadcom NetXtreme card working. The tg3 module doesn't seem to work. |
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| 18:07.58 | Ronin | and then testing will be given a new name etc. etc. |
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| 18:09.37 | typewriter | so is there a release scheduled for etch yet? |
| 18:09.50 | typewriter | date^ |
| 18:09.55 | chealer9 | !tell typewriter about wwer |
| 18:09.57 | Ronin | typewriter: when its ready ;) |
| 18:10.32 | Zrin | Xrealvnc ends with segmentation fault on sarge on amd64 w/ 2.6.15 kernel ... what shall I try first? |
| 18:10.46 | typewriter | so it's usually just a random announcement? not like other OSes who build up to the final release with a schedule and BETA/RCs ? |
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| 18:11.57 | Ronin | from debian.org: As usual, the release goals and the release date are not going to be determined in advance. To put it simply, "Debian releases when it is time". |
| 18:12.21 | Ronin | i think i read something about roughly every 2ish years,but don't quote me on that |
| 18:12.28 | typewriter | well ok, how has upgrading usually been |
| 18:12.29 | typewriter | smooth? |
| 18:12.45 | Ronin | smooth as silk for me but then im running stable |
| 18:13.08 | typewriter | you updated from woody to sarge? |
| 18:13.23 | yggdrasil | ive started rtorrent in an ssh session how can i put it in the background ? |
| 18:13.38 | typewriter | /path/to/rtorrent & |
| 18:13.46 | yggdrasil | but its allready started |
| 18:13.55 | typewriter | or use screen |
| 18:14.06 | loggygreg | yggdrasil: CTRL-Z and type bg |
| 18:14.08 | yggdrasil | hmmm |
| 18:14.19 | yggdrasil | hmmm |
| 18:14.35 | yggdrasil | not goin :( |
| 18:14.39 | valdyn | typewriter: debian has a release policy that goes by bug count, not by time |
| 18:14.51 | typewriter | ok |
| 18:15.10 | typewriter | actually not really anxious about the next release, i'm just more anxious about seeing a lot of testing packages finally making it to stable |
| 18:15.17 | valdyn | typewriter: only release preparation goes by time, like the announcement when debian will start the release process |
| 18:15.27 | yggdrasil | lggygreg do have to have something installed ? |
| 18:15.34 | valdyn | typewriter: that does never happen ever |
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| 18:15.46 | loggygreg | yggdrasil: no |
| 18:15.51 | yggdrasil | hmm odd.. |
| 18:15.55 | KsiLaptop | So, does anyone know about Broadcom NetXtreme drivers? |
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| 18:16.14 | yggdrasil | i guesse ill jsut restat it and & |
| 18:16.18 | typewriter | what do you mean? |
| 18:16.30 | typewriter | i meant it as finally seeing mysql5 move from testing to stable |
| 18:16.31 | valdyn | typewriter: testing contains packages that come from unstable and qualify for testing by a some requirements |
| 18:16.56 | valdyn | typewriter: that testing at some point becomes the new stable, but package migration from testing to stable does not happen |
| 18:17.08 | typewriter | semantics |
| 18:17.11 | valdyn | typewriter: no |
| 18:17.42 | valdyn | typewriter: packages 'updates' for stable are backports |
| 18:18.04 | valdyn | !backport |
| 18:18.04 | dpkg | i guess backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 18:18.07 | typewriter | is there a way to monitor a testing package on it's way to becoming stable? |
| 18:18.24 | valdyn | typewriter: that does not ever happen ( sorry for the repeat ) |
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| 18:19.38 | yggdrasil | the only reason i want to put it in the bg is because i know the ssh session will get disconnected |
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| 18:20.05 | KsiLaptop | yggdrasil: You can also use screen. |
| 18:20.12 | yggdrasil | hmm |
| 18:20.15 | yggdrasil | how ? |
| 18:20.21 | valdyn | yggdrasil: use screen or nohup, & is not useful for this |
| 18:20.25 | KsiLaptop | screen (command) |
| 18:20.43 | KsiLaptop | so # screen bittorrent.py blah |
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| 18:20.49 | Gadi | hey. I am having trouble with dhcp3-server generating multiple leases for identical hardware instead of reusing them - has anyone seen this? |
| 18:21.10 | valdyn | Gadi: that's the default |
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| 18:21.22 | Gadi | ah, how can I change it? |
| 18:21.37 | Gadi | I run out of leases real quick |
| 18:21.38 | typewriter | how popular is backports |
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| 18:21.43 | valdyn | Gadi: man dhcpd.conf ? |
| 18:21.49 | Gadi | sorry, thx |
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| 18:22.07 | valdyn | Gadi: or just read the config file |
| 18:22.40 | Gadi | ok - this is a different default behavior than on other distros |
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| 18:24.06 | yggdrasil | well it seems like its running dont know how to see what its doing but thats fine by me |
| 18:24.50 | valdyn | yggdrasil: ctrl-z would bg it in your shell btw, but that is not useful, it would still die if that shell dies |
| 18:24.58 | jonathan` | I get "ERRSRV - ERRbadpw (Bad psasword - name/password pair in a Tree Connect or Session Setup are invalid)" when I try to mount up an smbfs but I'm positive the username and password are correct |
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| 18:25.12 | valdyn | jonathan`: maybe you're wrong |
| 18:25.14 | yggdrasil | valdyn well i screend it so will it stay running when shell dies ? |
| 18:25.29 | valdyn | jonathan`: what exactly are you doing, which OSes are involved exactly how |
| 18:25.36 | valdyn | yggdrasil: yea |
| 18:25.41 | yggdrasil | crap |
| 18:25.46 | yggdrasil | hehe i just want it to run |
| 18:25.47 | valdyn | yggdrasil: run 'screen -R -DD' in another shell |
| 18:25.55 | jonathan` | valdyn, im trying to mount a windows 2003 server family machine to the debian box |
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| 18:26.18 | valdyn | jonathan`: with which command |
| 18:26.19 | tomas_ | my /etc/resolv.conf keeps resetting to the default dns server (router ip)m yes i see some request on tcpdump, how do i keep /etc/resolv.conf untouchable for all nasty 0dns-down etc applications? |
| 18:26.30 | florb | Is there any reason why thousands of directories are 2755 by default on a production Debian machine? |
| 18:26.35 | valdyn | tomas_: apt-get remove resolvconf |
| 18:26.43 | florb | home directories, subdirectories, lots of stuff |
| 18:26.47 | jonathan` | valdyn, mount -t smbfs -o username=theusername,password=thepassword /server01/MySQL |
| 18:27.00 | florb | Stuff in /etc, stuff in /cvs (our cvsroot parent) |
| 18:27.04 | florb | It doesn't make sense |
| 18:27.05 | valdyn | jonathan`: use //server01/MySQL |
| 18:27.16 | jonathan` | valdyn, i've tried both ways with same results |
| 18:27.45 | tomas_ | valdyn: that's not it |
| 18:27.46 | valdyn | florb: you are _asked_ how you want home permissions to be when installing debian iirc |
| 18:27.49 | tomas_ | hmm |
| 18:28.21 | valdyn | florb: now for stuff in etc, what is the problem with it? what's wrong with reading configuration as user instead root? |
| 18:28.26 | tomas_ | i have dnsutils and libdns6, but they don't update my resolv.conf right? |
| 18:28.33 | tomas_ | it's dig and so i have seen |
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| 18:28.58 | lepton_ | tomas_: is this a dhcp client? |
| 18:29.09 | beardy | !fixresolvconf |
| 18:29.09 | dpkg | ISP fucking with your /etc/resolv.conf file? Don't worry! just do echo -e "nameserver 4.2.2.1\nnameserver 168.126.63.1" > /etc/resolv.conf && chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf; as root, and your problems will be solved (permanently) a slightly more elegant solution is to use resolvconf instead, and specify the nameservers yourself, or to edit /etc/dhclient.conf |
| 18:29.41 | vin` | tomas_: man 5 dhclient.conf look at prepend |
| 18:29.41 | tomas_ | what is chattr.. some kind of chmod a-rwx thing? |
| 18:29.55 | beardy | tomas_: read the manual |
| 18:29.56 | zee751 | will "useradd -O PASS_MAX_DAYS=90 -m username" create a user and force them to change their password every 90 days? |
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| 18:30.15 | valdyn | florb: /cvs is made by you, why would that be debians fault? |
| 18:30.18 | florb | valdyn: This is all over the place |
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| 18:30.28 | florb | valdyn: I think umask has been changed or something |
| 18:30.41 | valdyn | florb: umm, / is user readable by default |
| 18:30.48 | florb | Home directories are not world-readible by default, but they most-certainly should not be setuid either |
| 18:30.52 | valdyn | florb: and /cvs was made by you |
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| 18:31.00 | valdyn | florb: ops |
| 18:31.04 | florb | Right, so why are random directories on the system being created with 2755? |
| 18:31.14 | beardy | florb: They are. |
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| 18:31.21 | florb | beardy: what? |
| 18:31.33 | beardy | florb: Home directories are world readable by default. |
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| 18:31.51 | florb | beardy: Not on this system, that behavior was changed at install time |
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| 18:32.46 | zee751 | does anyone know how to set the password expiration on a new user to 90 days, but not the whole system ie: /etc/login.defs? |
| 18:33.37 | lepton_ | zee751: man passwd |
| 18:34.10 | florb | aphrodite:/usr# find . -perm 2755 | wc -l |
| 18:34.10 | florb | 907 |
| 18:34.11 | sikici | sdfLJKsdf |
| 18:34.12 | sikici | sdfjkdf |
| 18:34.19 | beardy | florb: Now that you mention it, I think it's asked when installing yes, at least when doing an "expert" install, so you are probably right. I don't think that question has been there that long though. |
| 18:34.20 | zee751 | lepton: with useradd. not passwd. This needs to be scripted |
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| 18:34.49 | lepton_ | zee751: add the user. change the expiry after they are added |
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| 18:35.12 | zee751 | lepton_: that can't be done with useradd? |
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| 18:35.36 | florb | valdyn: So any idea why these were changed, and how to change them back to their proper bits and owners? |
| 18:35.47 | zee751 | lepton_: I didn't think passwd would be the right command but just found it. Thanks |
| 18:35.51 | valdyn | florb: nope, restore from backup |
| 18:35.56 | lepton_ | zee751: have fun |
| 18:36.12 | valdyn | !reinstall |
| 18:36.12 | florb | valdyn: Backup has the same bits too, which means its been this way for at least a year |
| 18:36.12 | dpkg | methinks reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 18:36.33 | valdyn | florb: but that reinstalll wont affect configuration files or home directores.. |
| 18:36.40 | florb | Reinstall is not an option |
| 18:36.53 | valdyn | florb: read what dpkg said... |
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| 18:37.10 | florb | valdyn: Read what I said |
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| 18:37.22 | nn- | is there an elegant way to browse through the list of packages upon which no other packages depend? |
| 18:37.29 | valdyn | florb: so you are telling me that reinstalling packages is not an option? |
| 18:37.31 | Thug-N-Me | linuxhelp |
| 18:37.35 | florb | valdyn: And that doesn't fix the issue of non-distro directories being created with the wrong umask |
| 18:37.36 | nn- | to get rid of libraries that are no longer needed for example |
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| 18:37.45 | valdyn | florb: yea |
| 18:37.50 | valdyn | florb: fix those yourself.. |
| 18:37.53 | florb | # umask |
| 18:37.53 | florb | 0022 |
| 18:37.54 | ma3x | hey |
| 18:37.54 | netsurf3 | what should i have installed to compile modules in particular the /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/build? many thanks |
| 18:37.56 | ma3x | how can I burn .nrg image to a CD |
| 18:37.58 | ma3x | without having nero installed |
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| 18:38.05 | florb | Something fishy here |
| 18:38.15 | buffoon | ma3x, nrg2iso |
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| 18:38.23 | florb | valdyn: Sure, fix them myself... but how do I know what they were before? Things in /usr/local for example |
| 18:38.23 | valdyn | florb: i'd reinstall the whole system anyway |
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| 18:38.41 | florb | valdyn: yeah, that's not going to happen here. |
| 18:38.42 | valdyn | florb: those things have standard permissions... |
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| 18:39.04 | florb | # find . -perm 2755 | wc -l |
| 18:39.04 | florb | 34 |
| 18:39.08 | florb | ^ from another Debian box |
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| 18:39.11 | Phlexonance | hi, I have a problem with azureus and the people in the #azureus chans could not help me, anyone here with azureus experience? |
| 18:39.23 | florb | So why is one box 907 dirs at 2755, another box 34 dirs at 2755? |
| 18:39.26 | florb | Its fishy |
| 18:39.27 | tchino | i can't login on kde, i have upgrade my debian system, what is wrong? |
| 18:39.48 | ragna | tchino be moe especific =) |
| 18:39.51 | ragna | more* |
| 18:40.08 | valdyn | !tell Phlexonance -about ask |
| 18:40.13 | ma3x | buffoon, let me try! |
| 18:40.16 | ragna | you cant logging to your KDE doesnt seem to be a prob, wrong password'? 0O |
| 18:40.46 | tchino | when i login, it comes a black screen, that i goes back to the login window, when i startx under root after init 1, it comes a message, that the fonts are not load right |
| 18:41.00 | ma3x | buffoon, if I don't succeed I will blame you for everything ! |
| 18:41.11 | ma3x | buffoon, :p |
| 18:41.22 | Thug-N-Me | just reset the firewall and i still cannot connect to " telnet localhost 25 " any ideea ? ( net: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused ) |
| 18:41.32 | netsurf3 | what should i have installed to compile modules in particular the /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/build? many thanks |
| 18:41.34 | ragna | tchino mmm startx as a normal user |
| 18:41.34 | tchino | ragna: after black screen it goes back to login window |
| 18:41.42 | buffoon | ma3x, just try it out. I used it a couple of times and I can't remember to have problems with it... |
| 18:41.46 | buffoon | :) |
| 18:41.47 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: netstat -plunt | grep 25 |
| 18:42.12 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn hmm . not listed |
| 18:42.14 | ragna | tchino root should not have permission to start x console =) |
| 18:42.24 | Phlexonance | when I try the official azureus build (from sourceforge) it gives me a strange java SWT error saying "No more handles", when using the version I get from apt-get, azureus runs, but when searching for updates, he downloads them, restarts and then instead of installing them just keeps on looking for updates and trying to download them again, i get no error |
| 18:42.28 | ragna | tchino is a security manner =O |
| 18:42.30 | dondelelcaro | florb: directories that are g+s aren't really a big deal. You should first understand what that means; info coreutils 'File Permissions' |
| 18:42.31 | tchino | ragna: i can't switch between different windows (strg+alt+F2) |
| 18:42.39 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn * Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent... [ ok ] |
| 18:42.48 | nn- | can you recommend any tricks to get rid of libraries that are no longer required by any other packages? |
| 18:42.57 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: /etc/init.d/posfix restart |
| 18:43.05 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn i did that too :) |
| 18:43.13 | ragna | tchino let me think |
| 18:43.14 | tchino | ragna: when i want startx, i must go out from irc |
| 18:43.16 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: and its still not listening on port 25? |
| 18:43.21 | ma3x | buffoon, it didn't work it says Unable to identify CD-ROM format. |
| 18:43.35 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn no , its not |
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| 18:43.39 | Ronin | tchino: irc from screen then |
| 18:43.49 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: look at the postfix logfiles |
| 18:43.49 | ragna | tchino did you upgraded from sarge to testing/sid?? |
| 18:43.53 | beardy | !tell Ozarka -about root |
| 18:43.56 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn i dint configure postfix to run on a diff. port anyway |
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| 18:44.26 | beardy | florb: what don't you understand? |
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| 18:44.32 | Ozarka | Oops |
| 18:44.37 | tchino | Ronin: i have /debian.org testing in my sources.list |
| 18:44.47 | buffoon | ma3x, strange... as i sayd it always worked fine here... |
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| 18:45.02 | tchino | ragna: i have /debian.org testing in my sources.list |
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| 18:45.05 | florb | beardy: I got it |
| 18:45.17 | Ozarka | How can I change my sources.list to apt get some things only available in unstable, without it upgrading every other package? |
| 18:45.35 | SlayerXP | Ozarka: you don't mix unstable with anything else |
| 18:45.36 | Zrin | what makes bash exit with "bash: ./vncserver: No such file or directory" while ./vncserver exists and has mod 755? |
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| 18:45.47 | SlayerXP | !tell Ozarka about backports |
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| 18:46.12 | ragna | tchino but yoiu said you upgraded i wonder if you had sarge packages before cause it can do some dependency usues maybe xfonts didnt got upgraded |
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| 18:46.34 | tchino | ragna: what can i do |
| 18:46.36 | valdyn | Zrin: which command / script are you trying to run? |
| 18:46.50 | Ozarka | SlayerXP: Well, Im pretty desperate to get these IPW2200 driver to work and I was given some advice on some packages to grab from unstable that may get it working... If you know how to set up ipw2200 driver that would be great. |
| 18:46.59 | Phlexonance | when I try the official azureus build (from sourceforge) it gives me a strange java SWT error saying "No more handles", when using the version I get from apt-get, azureus runs, but when searching for updates, he downloads them, restarts and then instead of installing them just keeps on looking for updates and trying to download them again, i get no error |
| 18:47.01 | asperon | hi, i want to try an usb stick install, and i am looking at a current debian server that i have, but i cant seem to find the boot.img.gz that the installation instructions are refering to? |
| 18:47.01 | Zrin | valdyn: it is ./vncserver: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
| 18:47.09 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn are you fam with postfix ? |
| 18:47.16 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: no |
| 18:47.17 | SlayerXP | Ozarka: I don't, I'm sensible enough to buy properly supported hardware. |
| 18:47.17 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 19: bad transport type: cleanup_service_name=pre-cleanup |
| 18:47.20 | chealer9 | Ozarka: which release do you run? |
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| 18:47.22 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn ok ;) |
| 18:47.27 | Zrin | valdyn: it is vncserver from www.realvnc.com |
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| 18:47.53 | valdyn | Zrin: yea, ... i mean, what are you typing in your shell ? just ./vncserver ? or is this being run from a script? |
| 18:47.55 | Ozarka | chealer9: Stable, if that was what you were asking |
| 18:48.03 | tchino | ragna: where i update the system, it comes a message, that some packages are not checked |
| 18:48.06 | Ozarka | chealer9: Or are you talking kernel? |
| 18:48.07 | Zrin | valdyn: just ./vncserver |
| 18:48.26 | chealer9 | Ozarka: yes. binary packages from unstable and stable don't mix well. consider trying to build a backport |
| 18:48.28 | valdyn | Zrin: ./vn<tab><tab> works ? |
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| 18:48.34 | linux86 | hi |
| 18:48.35 | Zrin | valdyn: and it's -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 173693 Nov 16 17:30 vncserver* |
| 18:48.41 | jarango | I have a 100Mbps Ethernet adapter that is functioning very slow (perhaps just 10Mbps or half duplex). How do I troubleshoot this ? |
| 18:48.58 | Zrin | valdyn: yes, ./vn<tab>s<tab> |
| 18:48.59 | nn- | jarango: have you already tried mii-tool? |
| 18:49.17 | jarango | nn-: No, I am not familiar with that tool |
| 18:49.32 | valdyn | Zrin: that partition isnt mounted noexec? |
| 18:49.38 | tchino | ragna: where are you? |
| 18:49.42 | nn- | jarango: what type of card have you got? what brand? |
| 18:49.59 | jarango | nn-: sis900 |
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| 18:50.08 | Zrin | valdyn: hmmm, its /root/vnc-E4_1_9-x86_linux |
| 18:50.37 | amee2k | how can i upload an entire directory tree to a ftp server from the command line? |
| 18:50.49 | nn- | jarango: apt-get install mii-diag; mii-diag eth0 |
| 18:50.54 | Zrin | valdyn: I'm on sarge / amd64 / 2.6.15.4 and vncserver as in debian package ends with segfault |
| 18:50.56 | daymoon | amee2k: use lftp client |
| 18:51.01 | valdyn | Zrin: sh ./vnc-E4... |
| 18:51.19 | valdyn | Zrin: or is that really a binary executable? |
| 18:51.28 | Zrin | valdyn: it's binary |
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| 18:51.52 | nn- | jarango: is the sis900 onboard? |
| 18:51.59 | Zrin | valdyn: file says ./vncserver: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
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| 18:52.15 | jarango | nn-: yes |
| 18:52.17 | OES | Is there an equivalent of module-assistant in Woody (currently I am using Sarge). I am new to Debian and working to package my kernel module. |
| 18:52.46 | nn- | jarango: you must supply more information or nobody will be able to help you |
| 18:52.53 | Zrin | valdyn: could it have something to do with alternatives? |
| 18:52.56 | nn- | jarango: have you tried running mii-diag? |
| 18:53.01 | jarango | nn-: hmmm, mii-tool says "negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok" |
| 18:53.05 | valdyn | Zrin: im not getting an idea from that errors message, you need to have ia32-libs installed anyway, and probably more that might not be available in debian/amd64, why dont you use a 64 bit vnc server ( there is a few alternatives in sarge i think ) |
| 18:53.17 | Phlexonance | when I try the official azureus build (from sourceforge) it gives me a strange java SWT error saying "No more handles", when using the version I get from apt-get, azureus runs, but when searching for updates, he downloads them, restarts and then instead of installing them just keeps on looking for updates and trying to download them again, i get no error |
| 18:53.22 | valdyn | Zrin: no |
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| 18:53.47 | jarango | nn-: mii-diag says "The autonegotiated media type is 100baseTx-FD" |
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| 18:54.14 | Zrin | valdyn: sarge has tightvncserver which says "couldn't start..." and vncerver which segfaults when started |
| 18:54.21 | nn- | jarango: you might be using an erroneous driver |
| 18:54.39 | nn- | jarango: what kernel version are you running? |
| 18:54.42 | samx | how can I install kde without installing arts? |
| 18:54.52 | Zrin | valdyn: before investigating what is wrong with those two i wanted to try that one from realvnc.com |
| 18:55.02 | sepski | Zrin, i'v used both vncserver and x11vnc in sarge without errors |
| 18:55.03 | valdyn | Zrin: run 'ldd vncserver' |
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| 18:55.14 | Phlexonance | I installed vlc with apt-get, but it does not work properly, (gives no picture, font in menu extremely small) |
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| 18:55.28 | jarango | nn-: 2.6.12-1-686 all the drivers I use are from the deb image package |
| 18:55.35 | Zrin | valdyn: /usr/bin/ldd: line 1: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory |
| 18:55.37 | daymoon | amee2k: mirror -R local_dir remote_dir |
| 18:55.44 | jarango | nn-: automatically probed |
| 18:55.45 | nn- | jarango: could you paste the content of /proc/interrupts ? |
| 18:55.45 | sepski | Zrin, and btw freenx is _very_ much faster then vnc |
| 18:55.56 | Zrin | sepski: thanks :) |
| 18:56.03 | jarango | nn-:yes, thanks, just a minute |
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| 18:56.05 | sepski | !freenx |
| 18:56.06 | dpkg | i heard freenx is a Free implementation of the nomachine.com caching system for X, RDP and VNC, based on their GPLd libraries. packages for sarge: "deb http://www.linux.lk/~anuradha/nx/ ./" packages for etch/sid: "deb ftp://ftp.ekhis.org/ekhis/ experimental main" |
| 18:56.06 | valdyn | Zrin: there's your error, the one bash gave was misleading, your dynamic linker is broken |
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| 18:56.17 | valdyn | Zrin: try apt-get install ia32-libs |
| 18:56.25 | Zrin | valdyn: ok, thank you |
| 18:56.55 | valdyn | Zrin: you're trying to use a 32bit binary on amd64, that needs some support... |
| 18:57.04 | daymoon | amee2k: under lftp... do u understand me? |
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| 18:57.13 | Thug-N-Me | anyone familiar with postfix who can help me a bit ? |
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| 18:57.22 | Usiu | Hi |
| 18:57.24 | Usiu | Is erland in stable ?? |
| 18:57.26 | Usiu | erlang |
| 18:57.30 | amee2k | i installed lftp and mirror. what now? |
| 18:57.51 | nn- | isn't erlang a programming language? |
| 18:57.54 | daymoon | mirror is not a program, but only command in lftp |
| 18:58.14 | hid3 | Evenin everyone. I've upgraded my router's hardware last weekend. However, when I type `top`, I see about 50% cpu used by Soft Interrupt and about 10% by Hard Interrupt. Is there any way to investigate what exactly uses that cpu power? (I'm not sure but I think that with the old hardware there were no such problems) |
| 18:58.14 | daymoon | siple: lftp user@machine |
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| 18:58.24 | daymoon | cd dir |
| 18:58.24 | valdyn | Zrin: vnc sucks either way, if you can, use ssh, imho |
| 18:58.31 | mishmash | I'm trying to setup an Samba server on my debian machine. Earlier i had to use smbpasswd <user> to grant a user smb access. But when i try it now it just says that it can't find the user |
| 18:58.38 | mishmash | am i forgetting something? |
| 18:58.39 | Phlexonance | when I try the official azureus build (from sourceforge) it gives me a strange java SWT error saying "No more handles", when using the version I get from apt-get, azureus runs, but when searching for updates, he downloads them, restarts and then instead of installing them just keeps on looking for updates and trying to download them again, i get no error |
| 18:58.40 | amee2k | aic |
| 18:58.47 | daymoon | mirror -R local_dir remote_dir |
| 18:59.07 | Zrin | valdyn: I'm trying to build an opinion about terminals, locales and charset encodings |
| 18:59.14 | Usiu | Hi how to search throught deb-src with apt-cache ?? |
| 18:59.17 | Usiu | plz help |
| 18:59.49 | valdyn | Usiu: why would you do that? |
| 18:59.57 | valdyn | Usiu: what are you trying to do? |
| 19:00.14 | Usiu | valdyn, cause I have stable and I want to find if there is ejabberd in deb-src |
| 19:00.30 | jarango | nn-: No interrupt is shown for sis900, is this normal ? |
| 19:00.49 | nn- | jarango: could you paste the whole content of the file? |
| 19:00.52 | valdyn | Usiu: make sarge your default release, add a deb line for each source line, done |
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| 19:01.10 | jarango | nn-: I did, on a separate dialog |
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| 19:01.33 | nn- | jarango: I did't receive it, sorry |
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| 19:01.41 | jonathan` | so does anyone have any other ideas why i get a bad password or session setup invalid error on mount even though the user and passwords are infact correct? |
| 19:01.53 | valdyn | Usiu: apt-cache showsrc |
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| 19:02.15 | Phlexonance | I installed vlc with apt-get, but it does not work properly, (gives no picture, font in menu extremely small) |
| 19:02.33 | jarango | nn-: did you get it this time ? |
| 19:02.38 | nn- | jarango: negative |
| 19:02.53 | Usiu | valdyn, is erlang in stable ? |
| 19:02.56 | Eulex | wow... debian has 365gb of backup of the sites |
| 19:03.07 | valdyn | !find erlang |
| 19:03.21 | valdyn | !test |
| 19:03.21 | dpkg | Yes, valdyn, you're still online. |
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| 19:03.35 | valdyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.36 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'erlang' (5 of 17): (/usr/share/enscript/hl/erlang.st) in text/enscript ;; (/usr/share/scite/erlang.properties) in editors/scite ;; (/usr/share/doc-base/libsdl-erlang) in libs/libsdl-erlang ;; (/usr/share/vim/vim64/syntax/erlang.vim) in editors/vim-runtime ;; (/usr/share/lintian/overrides/erlang-base) in interpreters/erlang-base. |
| 19:03.43 | valdyn | !find erlang sarge |
| 19:03.48 | thekernel | I am looking to setup a new debian system and would like to do RAID 1 (fakeraid on a hardware device not MD). Does anyone have any good hardware they like to use? |
| 19:03.54 | nn- | it's a programming language - isn't it? |
| 19:04.03 | valdyn | nn-: yes |
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| 19:04.32 | jarango | nn-: http://pastebin.com/587433 |
| 19:04.41 | Usiu | valdyn, it only finds erlang-doc-html and erlang-manpages for me |
| 19:04.50 | valdyn | !find erlang sarge |
| 19:04.51 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'erlang' (2): erlang-doc-html ;; erlang-manpages. |
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| 19:05.04 | valdyn | Usiu: its in sid |
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| 19:05.42 | Usiu | valdyn, I want to install ejabberd... |
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| 19:06.30 | valdyn | Usiu: add a source line for sid, run apt-get -b source erlang, install the resulting debs, apt-get -b source ejabberd .. etc, watch error messages |
| 19:06.42 | madclicker | is kaffeine ever going to make it into etch? |
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| 19:07.00 | abrotman | just use xine |
| 19:07.01 | valdyn | !why is kaffeine not in testing |
| 19:07.02 | dpkg | kaffeine is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=kaffeine |
| 19:07.02 | Usiu | valdyn, thx |
| 19:07.04 | abrotman | wait .. is xine in testing? |
| 19:07.44 | Acid`X | abrotman: xine-ui |
| 19:07.46 | MrNaz | now, i know this probably gets thrown in all the time, and i know all about debian's "when its ready" policy, but can anyone give me even the roughest of ideas about when etch will be released as stable? |
| 19:08.01 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'erlang' (5 of 8): (/usr/share/enscript/hl/erlang.st) in text/enscript ;; (/usr/share/scite/erlang.properties) in editors/scite ;; (/usr/share/vim/vim63/syntax/erlang.vim) in editors/vim-common ;; (/usr/share/phpgroupware/setup/lang/newheaderlangs) in web/phpgroupware-setup ;; (/usr/share/doc/postgresql-doc/html/sql-alterlanguage.html) in doc/postgresql-doc. |
| 19:08.28 | valdyn | !wwsb |
| 19:08.30 | valdyn | !wweb |
| 19:08.33 | valdyn | !wwebr |
| 19:08.37 | valdyn | !wwer |
| 19:08.38 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. There are no current estimates. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/01/msg00001.html |
| 19:08.39 | Phlexonance | when I try the official azureus build (from sourceforge) it gives me a strange java SWT error saying "No more handles", when using the version I get from apt-get, azureus runs, but when searching for updates, he downloads them, restarts and then instead of installing them just keeps on looking for updates and trying to download them again, i get no error |
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| 19:09.05 | MrNaz | !siyh |
| 19:09.05 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, siyh is Sooner If You Help, or see "wir" and "rsn" |
| 19:09.13 | MrNaz | !rsn |
| 19:09.13 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, rsn is Real Soon Now (or never) or see "wir" and "siyh" |
| 19:09.14 | vin` | MrNaz: it's all dependant on the bugs, watch them and you'll know. |
| 19:09.18 | samx | any hints for easily installing KDE without arts? I need a lot of packages it wants to deinstall... |
| 19:09.31 | valdyn | samx: no way to do that |
| 19:09.45 | PerfDave | samx: What are you trying to achieve? |
| 19:09.49 | MrNaz | vin` aaah... bugs only you say? |
| 19:10.11 | madclicker | valdyn, thats odd bugs, i am using kaffeine on SID for a few months now and have no problems. It is also KDE 3.5 |
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| 19:10.46 | samx | I like KDE and want to install it on demudi (debian music distribution), but it wants to uninstall jack and other music software I need |
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| 19:10.52 | valdyn | madclicker: feel free to add that to the bugreport and let them know it works... |
| 19:10.57 | Phlexonance | I installed vlc with apt-get, but it does not work properly, (gives no picture, font in menu extremely small) |
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| 19:11.06 | samx | valdyn: Why is that? I mean basically that has to be possible... |
| 19:11.12 | PerfDave | samx: Ask the Demudi IRC channel for support, if you're using Demudi and not Debian |
| 19:11.22 | valdyn | samx: why does it have to be possible? |
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| 19:11.32 | valdyn | samx: what's the problem with arts? |
| 19:11.45 | samx | valdyn: because I'm using that on the same laptop with a gentoo distribution |
| 19:11.55 | samx | valdyn: the problem is I need jack for serious music recording |
| 19:11.55 | PerfDave | valdyn: He's mixing packages between different distros, by the look of it. |
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| 19:12.13 | valdyn | PerfDave: oh that too.. |
| 19:12.26 | thekernel | \quit |
| 19:12.46 | samx | PerfDave: I think that has nothing to do with demudi and is a debian question |
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| 19:13.00 | Susannchen | DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 |
| 19:13.01 | valdyn | samx: if a kde package is linked against arts it needs arts, gentoo recompiles everything, making it possible to disable arts usage at compile time ( possibly ), maybe your gentoo just misses those arts dependend packages though |
| 19:13.05 | Susannchen | lol! |
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| 19:13.24 | PerfDave | samx: You're running Demudi, ask Demudi for support. If you're running Demudi and mixing it with Debian packages, it's still not a Debian question. |
| 19:13.26 | vin` | MrNaz: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller |
| 19:13.29 | valdyn | samx: jack does not conflict with arts, so where is the problem? |
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| 19:13.38 | Susannchen | DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 |
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| 19:13.41 | nn- | isn't there any automated way to purge unneded libraries? I am stuck with a totally bloated system :( |
| 19:13.47 | crypt_ex | How can I tell if a server is having hard disk errors? The only way I can tell is when I try and work on a file, and it reports I/O errors, is there a file or something I can check before it happens? |
| 19:13.52 | vin` | Susannchen: please stop that. |
| 19:13.52 | MrNaz | vin` thanks |
| 19:13.54 | PerfDave | valdyn: Maybe they conflict in samx's non-Debian distribution. |
| 19:13.58 | Susannchen | ARE U USING NETGEAR-ROUTERS WITH EXPLOITS????? |
| 19:13.59 | Susannchen | DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 |
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| 19:14.09 | nn- | jarango: are you sure the throughput problem of your nic is linux related? |
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| 19:14.30 | samx | valdyn: yes, with gentoo it's possible to install kde without arts, but it's a hard way to install all music-related software so I wanted to try a special debian music distribution |
| 19:14.36 | Susannchen | DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 |
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| 19:14.53 | nn- | jarango: are you sure the throughput problem of your nic is linux related? |
| 19:14.57 | valdyn | samx: just install arts, nothing wrong with it, no problem using jack either |
| 19:14.59 | Susannchen | DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 |
| 19:15.04 | Gnea | !ops Susannchen is offtopic, repeating and spamming [02:08PM] <Susannchen> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 |
| 19:15.04 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Susannchen is offtopic, repeating and spamming [02:08PM] <Susannchen> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 |
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| 19:15.18 | Ozarka | I just got the ipw2200 module to load, how can I tell if it's working? iwconfig is not showing any extensions... |
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| 19:15.55 | samx | valdyn: perhaps I need some more understanding for apt-get package managing, but selecting arts will remove jack that's my problem |
| 19:16.19 | madstu | anyone knows any useful documentation on howto install debian on TOSHIBA laptop (m70-144)? |
| 19:16.28 | PerfDave | madstu: /msg dpkg laptop |
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| 19:17.17 | madstu | PerfDave: much thanks |
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| 19:17.25 | sithi | while accesing my webmin from the broowser, it says access denied for 192.168.0.1 |
| 19:17.43 | jarango | nn-: I am not sure. I noticed the problem ever since I replaced my mobo |
| 19:17.44 | sithi | please somebody help me on this |
| 19:17.53 | Phlexonance | I installed vlc with apt-get, but it does not work properly, (gives no picture, font in menu extremely small) |
| 19:18.00 | jarango | nn-: All other hardware and computers in my home network remain the same |
| 19:18.05 | quitte | sithi: edit /etc/webmin/miniserc.conforsomething like that |
| 19:18.10 | Gnea | !webmin |
| 19:18.10 | dpkg | methinks webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 19:18.13 | Ozarka | What is the normal procedure to connect to a wireless network? |
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| 19:18.19 | sithi | let me try |
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| 19:18.45 | Gnea | !wireless |
| 19:18.45 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux |
| 19:18.56 | PerfDave | Phlexonance: What are you trying to play with it? If you're not getting a picture, it sounds like a codec issue, probably involving new Microsoft codecs. |
| 19:19.27 | vin` | Ozarka: man 7 wireless |
| 19:19.33 | Ozarka | Gnea: Thanks, but I currently don't have a gui installed, so web browsing is complicated |
| 19:19.39 | Ozarka | vin` thanks |
| 19:19.41 | PerfDave | Ozarka: lynx! |
| 19:19.51 | Gnea | Ozarka: lynx or links |
| 19:20.00 | Ozarka | PerfDave: Does that work well? |
| 19:20.04 | Ozarka | Never tried it hehe |
| 19:20.06 | vin` | links2 -g in fb |
| 19:20.07 | Phlexonance | PerfDave: does XviD count as a new Microsoft codec? |
| 19:20.14 | crypt_ex | How can I tell if a server is having hard disk errors? The only way I can tell is when I try and work on a file, and it reports I/O errors, is there a file or something I can check before it happens? |
| 19:20.26 | jonathan` | Ozarka, lynx is a great text-only browser, pretty damn easy to use too |
| 19:20.40 | PerfDave | Phlexonance: Dunno, have oyu installed a codec for xvic? |
| 19:20.43 | PerfDave | Ozarka: Works for me. |
| 19:20.46 | jarango | nn-: I guess it could also be the samba server, but I don't see why as it use to perform much faster under the previous mobo |
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| 19:21.18 | sithi | quitte:thanks, a lot, its' working now |
| 19:21.29 | Phlexonance | PerfDave: a codec for xvid, which library would that be |
| 19:21.46 | Phlexonance | PerfDave: and shouldnt it be in the dependencies? |
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| 19:23.32 | KsiLaptop | Anyone know how to get a broadcom 57xx onboard card to work with debian? |
| 19:23.45 | abrotman | tg3 ? |
| 19:23.48 | vin` | KsiLaptop: what chipset? |
| 19:24.03 | PerfDave | Phlexonance: Not necessarily. You don't need an xvid codec to use VLC after all |
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| 19:24.12 | tarzeau | i miss the times when #debian was as funny, as it just is in ##windows |
| 19:24.32 | Phlexonance | PerfDave: do you know what the name of the lib is? |
| 19:24.35 | tarzeau | abrotman: and i'd like to shoot some item of my desk on your head, just for fun |
| 19:24.35 | PerfDave | Phlexonance: I don't think there's an xvid codec in Debian, due to patent restrictions. There probably is one in Marillat's repository, but it may be illegal for you to use it. |
| 19:24.37 | exalted | Hi. What is missing due the error: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11". Thank you for your support. |
| 19:24.50 | abrotman | tarzeau: umbrella hat? |
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| 19:25.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: oh you've got a protective umbrella hat? i remember the photo |
| 19:25.07 | jarango | nn-: Thanks a lot for telling me about mii-tool and mii-diag |
| 19:25.14 | tarzeau | abrotman: you should also make a picture with tinfoil hat... |
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| 19:25.30 | nn- | jarango: you should make sure it's not a hardware design flaw |
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| 19:25.48 | nn- | jarango: SiS is known for producing low-end stuff |
| 19:25.57 | KsiLaptop | vin`: Not sure exactly, Supermicro's site says its a ServerWorks HT2000, but when it boots it says its a Broadcom NetXtreme. |
| 19:26.00 | tarzeau | abrotman: have you tried apt-get install zatacka yet? |
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| 19:26.15 | blondie | chinchillas from jupiter!!! |
| 19:26.29 | yang | with which filesystem type do i mount a windows floppy ? |
| 19:26.31 | Phlexonance | PerfDave: thanks for the info |
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| 19:26.40 | Thug-N-Me | ERROR : Connection dropped by imap-server. what it can be wrong ? |
| 19:26.43 | Gnea | tarzeau: fuckin' a, you and those games :) |
| 19:26.49 | tarzeau | Gnea: haha :) |
| 19:27.01 | tarzeau | Gnea: i've got another in preparation |
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| 19:27.07 | abrotman | tarzeau: i don't have a tin foil hat |
| 19:27.10 | abrotman | tarzeau: no i haven't |
| 19:27.11 | tarzeau | btw, didn't play #bub-n-bros for AGES! anyone up for it? |
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| 19:27.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's easy to make, got tin foil? |
| 19:27.21 | vin` | tarzeau: sure |
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| 19:27.27 | PerfDave | Phlexonance: FWIW, libxvidcore4 is in Marillat's repository. I use it because US software patents aren't recognised in the UK currently. |
| 19:27.28 | tarzeau | vin`: lol, you super addict! |
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| 19:28.15 | Phlexonance | PerfDave: I'm neither in the us (Austria), thanks |
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| 19:28.45 | tarzeau | vin`: ok let's see if i can get it to run on this computer |
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| 19:28.51 | Ozarka | How can you get a list of all of your current network interfaces? |
| 19:28.53 | tarzeau | vin`: last time i tried, meta-server was broken |
| 19:28.54 | PerfDave | Phlexonance: That doesn't mean that US software patents aren't recognised in your country. I suggest consulting a lawyer, or your local branch of the Free Software Foundation. |
| 19:28.57 | PerfDave | Ozarka: ifconfig -a |
| 19:28.59 | Ozarka | So I can see if it was detected and configure it |
| 19:29.10 | tarzeau | Ozarka: and lspci |
| 19:29.30 | PerfDave | tarzeau: No, lspci does not give you a list of all your current network interfaces, nor does it tell you what was detected by your kernel. |
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| 19:29.50 | Phlexonance | PerfDave: I know that they are still not recognised im my country, it was in the papers yesterday |
| 19:30.05 | PerfDave | Phlexonance: In that case, /msg dpkg marillat *g* |
| 19:30.27 | Phlexonance | PerfDave: I already did, thx =) |
| 19:30.30 | Gnea | Ozarka: ifconfig -a or ip a |
| 19:30.34 | Ozarka | PerfDave: I found my hardware listed by lspci... but how do I tell I activate it? It's a wireless network device |
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| 19:31.03 | vin` | tarzeau: I don't have 1.5 yet. |
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| 19:31.07 | kreg_work | if someone is logged in via ssh, how do you kill individual logins, such as different pts/1 pts/2, etc |
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| 19:31.18 | Ozarka | Gnea: If config -a do does not list it.. unless it's sit0... |
| 19:31.26 | tarzeau | vin`: metaserver is broken.... |
| 19:31.36 | tarzeau | vin`: can you run a server and paste your ip in here and #bub-n-bros ? |
| 19:31.37 | Gnea | Ozarka: no, sit0 is a virtual device |
| 19:31.46 | Ozarka | Gnea: Figured |
| 19:31.50 | Gnea | Ozarka: you need to read the wireless docs |
| 19:31.52 | Gnea | !wireless |
| 19:31.52 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux |
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| 19:32.02 | Ozarka | Gnea: Definately |
| 19:32.05 | vin` | tarzeau: not today then. |
| 19:32.09 | abrotman | !wireless is also try asking #wireless |
| 19:32.10 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 19:32.36 | ftp3 | how can I tell exactly what apt installs for a package? For example, apache2.. I would like to know everything it configures.. php? ssl? etc :-) |
| 19:32.37 | Ozarka | How can I get copy that link to lynx in text mod? |
| 19:32.43 | Ozarka | Or is there a way |
| 19:32.44 | vin` | install wireless-tools, man 7 wireless |
| 19:32.45 | quiet | rm... i can't find the link for gdmsetup in the gnome menu |
| 19:32.53 | LSorensen | kreg_work: pkill probably has a -t option |
| 19:32.55 | quiet | usually says Login Manager or something |
| 19:33.10 | Ozarka | vin` I have wireless tools, it's not listed by iwconfig |
| 19:33.17 | Ozarka | vin` but the drivers are loading and all that |
| 19:33.57 | Ozarka | vin` and lspci shows it... i just don't know how to 'activate' it as it as the interface is not showing up in iwconfig io ifconfig -a |
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| 19:34.29 | PerfDave | Ozarka: Use screen to copt and paste between IRC and lynx :) |
| 19:34.55 | Ozarka | PerfDave: Screen? Im do not have a GUI installed if thats what you mean. |
| 19:35.03 | tarzeau | Ozarka: apt-cache show screen |
| 19:35.08 | Ozarka | cool |
| 19:35.38 | tarzeau | Ozarka: it very much is! |
| 19:35.43 | Ozarka | Crazy, somthing to check out |
| 19:35.45 | tarzeau | Ozarka: unless you want to play nethack |
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| 19:36.23 | Ozarka | Mmmm, nethack |
| 19:36.27 | epsilon | oh, p.d.o is back? |
| 19:36.33 | Ozarka | Wonder why they called it that |
| 19:36.37 | amee2k | best is screen with a modded .bashrc that lets me create/join/reattach sessions on login :) |
| 19:36.39 | Thug-N-Me | where are the courier-imap logs located ? |
| 19:36.42 | tarzeau | because it was hacked over the network (usenet) |
| 19:36.47 | KsiLaptop | So, should I just use a different OS other than debian because I can't get these damn NICs to work? |
| 19:36.50 | tarzeau | Ozarka: #nethack |
| 19:36.54 | tarzeau | epsilon: yes |
| 19:37.11 | tarzeau | amee2k: even better with zsh, showing you the last ocmmand in c-a " |
| 19:37.13 | pll | anyone here familiar with /etc/apt/preferences ? |
| 19:37.13 | nn- | KsiLaptop: Debian is no OS |
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| 19:37.21 | tarzeau | pll: yes |
| 19:37.23 | KsiLaptop | Distro, whatever |
| 19:37.28 | PerfDave | amee2k: I tried that but found it too inflexible. I just have "screen -ls" in my .bash_profile |
| 19:37.29 | KsiLaptop | Because I know they work just fine with CentOS. |
| 19:38.01 | Zenethian | What in the world is famd and why does it go apeshit every once in a while and use 100% cpu? |
| 19:38.03 | tarzeau | KsiLaptop: what nics are that? |
| 19:38.03 | tarzeau | KsiLaptop: tried debian gnu/kfreebsd yet? |
| 19:38.03 | KsiLaptop | ServerWorks HT2000 |
| 19:38.03 | PerfDave | KsiLaptop: A new NIC is what, five quid? For the hassle, i'd just go buy one. |
| 19:38.03 | epsilon | hihi "Schlund + Parner" |
| 19:38.03 | tarzeau | KsiLaptop: do you know if it's supported by freebsd? |
| 19:38.03 | KsiLaptop | PerfDave: Not an option, 1U server. |
| 19:38.04 | PerfDave | Zenethian: File Alteration Monitor, and no idea. |
| 19:38.04 | tarzeau | epsilon: missing a t? |
| 19:38.04 | Zenethian | hrm |
| 19:38.04 | epsilon | yea |
| 19:38.05 | KsiLaptop | tarzeau: NOT using anything BSD if I can help it. |
| 19:38.14 | PerfDave | BSD > Linux *g* |
| 19:38.19 | tarzeau | KsiLaptop: debian gnu/kfreebsd is really alot like debian gnu/linux |
| 19:38.23 | KsiLaptop | And the client wanted debian. |
| 19:38.24 | tarzeau | KsiLaptop: only the kernel is different |
| 19:38.28 | tarzeau | same cow powers! |
| 19:38.29 | pll | tarzeau: I've a weird situation where /etc/apt/preferences pins packages to a (internal) "release" called permastable, and sets the priority to 1500. |
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| 19:38.53 | pll | tarzeau: there's installed package which is higher in version number than that of the package in our release. |
| 19:38.55 | tarzeau | pll: i'm glad i don't use pinning but the real thing, called sid |
| 19:39.06 | tarzeau | pll: i didn't say *I* do. i just said someone does. |
| 19:39.07 | tarzeau | !ask |
| 19:39.07 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 19:39.25 | Ozarka | Maybe it's not showing up because I lack the firmware... would you be able to load the ipw2200 module without the firmware installed? |
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| 19:39.38 | KsiLaptop | I need to somehow make the dual onboard nic work. Its a dual opteron motherboard. |
| 19:39.45 | pll | according to the man page for apt_preferences, a priority > 1000 should install from the pinned release even if it downgrades, yet it doesn't... |
| 19:39.45 | PerfDave | Ozarka: Recent kernels don't require binary firmware, old ones do. |
| 19:39.47 | pll | any ideas? |
| 19:40.00 | tarzeau | KsiLaptop: what's the lspci of the nic? |
| 19:40.07 | tarzeau | !seen jm_ |
| 19:40.07 | dpkg | jm_ <i=jm@febrile.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 4h 56m 39s ago, saying: 'faber2: in that case it has to be debugged on that end I guess'. |
| 19:40.11 | tarzeau | streuner: there? |
| 19:40.20 | KsiLaptop | 0000:04:04.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 166a (rev 03) |
| 19:40.20 | KsiLaptop | 0000:04:04.1 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 166a (rev 03) |
| 19:40.28 | evaarties | hi |
| 19:40.36 | tarzeau | KsiLaptop: can you run update-pciids ? |
| 19:40.44 | tarzeau | KsiLaptop: and then run the lspci again please? |
| 19:40.48 | KsiLaptop | Running. |
| 19:40.49 | PerfDave | KsiLaptop: Eww, broadcom. No wonder it doesn't work. |
| 19:41.01 | KsiLaptop | Works fine on RedHat. |
| 19:41.05 | Zrin | shouldn't libx11-dev provide X11 lib (-lX11)? |
| 19:41.06 | PerfDave | KsiLaptop: If it's an Opteron board, you may get better help from #debian-amd64, they're more familiar with the Opteron hardware. |
| 19:41.08 | evaarties | I am planning on installing X on sarge.. bot dpkg says I need to apt-get Discover.. but discover is allready installed. Can someone tell me what the difference is? |
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| 19:41.14 | wuhuu | hello! |
| 19:41.15 | PerfDave | KsiLaptop: RedHat doesn't care about Freedom. |
| 19:41.16 | KsiLaptop | I'm not running 64bit though. |
| 19:41.24 | KsiLaptop | 0000:04:04.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5780 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03) |
| 19:41.24 | KsiLaptop | 0000:04:04.1 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5780 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03) |
| 19:41.26 | PerfDave | KsiLaptop: They're still more familiar with Opteron hardware. |
| 19:41.27 | tarzeau | streuner: my computer mobo box says: GIGABYTE TECHNOPARTY GEFORCE i-DNA NATURAL INTELLIGENCE PERFORMANCE AND SECURITY DNA SATA 3 GB/S |
| 19:41.36 | tarzeau | lol nvraid and LOL LOL nvfirewall |
| 19:41.37 | KsiLaptop | PerfDave: Hm, ok |
| 19:41.39 | tarzeau | cracks me so up |
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| 19:41.51 | tarzeau | KsiLaptop: very good |
| 19:41.56 | eeyore- | tarzeau: technoparty? DNA? |
| 19:41.57 | exalted | Hi. Do you have any idea what's causing error "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11"? Thank you. |
| 19:42.01 | PerfDave | tarzeau: There's a technoparty in my pants and you're invited! :) |
| 19:42.04 | tarzeau | eeyore-: err technology, hehe ;) |
| 19:42.06 | KsiLaptop | Though, I should give the unofficial sarge images a shot. |
| 19:42.10 | tarzeau | eeyore-: no idea, it really says DNA... lol |
| 19:42.12 | Ozarka | PerfDave: Are you sure that goes for the ipw2200 driver? I was almost sure that you needed the firmware as well as the driver. |
| 19:42.15 | tarzeau | PerfDave: heh |
| 19:42.34 | tarzeau | exalted: you're missing some -dev libs |
| 19:42.42 | tarzeau | exalted: it used to be xlibs-dev , no idea what it is now |
| 19:42.47 | tarzeau | exalted: it's a completely fucked up mess now |
| 19:42.58 | exalted | tarzeau, i've installed "xlibs-dev", thats not the problem.. :S |
| 19:42.59 | tarzeau | exalted: and i'm glad , i'm not responsible for it. X sucks. it should've died long ago |
| 19:43.00 | PerfDave | Ozarka: I *believe* that recent 2.6 kernels (2.6.13 or something like that) don't need binary firmware, but I use nice, easy, vendor-GPL-driver rt2x00-based cards. |
| 19:43.01 | sett | anyone got here centrino laptop? does wifi work? |
| 19:43.04 | tarzeau | exalted: sid? |
| 19:43.06 | evaarties | I am planning on installing X on sarge.. bot dpkg says I need to apt-get Discover.. but discover is allready installed. Can someone tell me what the difference is? |
| 19:43.15 | exalted | tarzeau, actual testing |
| 19:43.19 | tarzeau | exalted: what software are you trying to build? |
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| 19:43.22 | nn- | exalted: libX11-dev ? |
| 19:43.23 | tarzeau | exalted: try with sid |
| 19:43.24 | exalted | tarzeau, ffmpeg |
| 19:43.27 | wuhuu | My TVout on my ATI Radeon 9600 Pro (which is running with a fglrx-driver 8.22 on Xorg 6.9.0) is only black and white... howto get it coloured? |
| 19:43.35 | exalted | nn-, oh let me check a sec. |
| 19:43.37 | tarzeau | exalted: i've had no problem building that. but debian ships it, why build your own? |
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| 19:43.44 | PerfDave | evaarties: What command are you using to install X, and exactly what error are you getting? For preference, use http://channels.debian.net/ |
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| 19:44.01 | exalted | nn-, it is installed also |
| 19:44.13 | exalted | tarzeau, i'm applying a patch on it |
| 19:44.16 | exalted | that's why |
| 19:44.26 | tarzeau | exalted: what patch? *just being curious* |
| 19:44.41 | chigvan | Hello, can anyone recommend a 'notepad' like text editor for debian? |
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| 19:44.55 | tarzeau | chigvan: wine notepad.exe or TextEdit.app |
| 19:45.03 | evaarties | PerfDave: I'm doing this: apt-get install read-edid mdetect discover; apt-get install x-window-system-core but when I check the pacakges that will be downloaded, I get a notice that package discover1 will be uninstalled. This made me wonder about what I should do. |
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| 19:45.15 | tarzeau | evaarties: go ahead |
| 19:45.20 | tarzeau | evaarties: it's fine, you'll get discover2 |
| 19:45.23 | amee2k | chigvan:: i'm fine with gedit,tho it's a bitmore sophisticated than windows notepad |
| 19:45.28 | chigvan | tarzeau, thanks |
| 19:45.37 | exalted | tarzeau, http://clemens.endorphin.org/weblog/archives/2006-02.shtml go for "Screencasting for X11: an FFmpeg screen recorder" title please |
| 19:45.40 | tomas_ | you think debian + X + fluxbox will run.. smooth on a 366mhz 64mb laptop? :) |
| 19:45.48 | PerfDave | evaarties: Why are you installing all that, instead of x-window-system-core? |
| 19:45.53 | chigvan | amee2k, thanks that sounds good as i havent got wine, thanks i'll try it |
| 19:45.56 | evaarties | tarzeau: ah, that's better I think :). and if it goes wrong, I'll just reinstall Debian :D.. done in 10 muinutes. |
| 19:45.57 | PerfDave | tomas_: I've run Debian, X and KDE on that without any hassle. |
| 19:46.01 | tarzeau | exalted: interesting, thanks. apropos screen recording, know xvidcap ? |
| 19:46.02 | agnidz | how the heck do you set the equivalent of the /etc/network/interfaces network option in isc dhpcd? |
| 19:46.04 | weasel00 | lilo is still causing mischief? =) |
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| 19:46.10 | tarzeau | evaarties: good luck |
| 19:46.14 | evaarties | PerfDave: the irc-bot dpkg says I should install that. |
| 19:46.17 | tarzeau | weasel00: as in what? |
| 19:46.21 | exalted | tarzeau, i couldn't get it work... |
| 19:46.29 | tomas_ | sweet, ive tried live cd with kde but it was soooooE+99 slow |
| 19:46.32 | Gnea | weasel00: no, you missed it - someone was in here actually pasting the line - several people got knocked off at once |
| 19:46.32 | PerfDave | evaarties: Strange. |
| 19:46.37 | tarzeau | tomas_: haha :) |
| 19:46.41 | PerfDave | tomas_: That's probably because it was a LiveCD :) |
| 19:46.51 | tarzeau | weasel00: just don't say startkeylogger |
| 19:46.58 | Zrin | exalted: I have the very same problem while trying to build vncserver on amd64 |
| 19:47.02 | chigvan | oh cool, i didn't even know I had it installed , gedit that is :) |
| 19:47.06 | pll | I'm running a local release of Debian, approximating Woody. I |
| 19:47.06 | pll | set /etc/apt/preferences to pin packages to this an |
| 19:47.06 | pll | internal "release" called permastable, and set the priority to |
| 19:47.06 | pll | 1500. According to the man page for apt_preferences, a priority |
| 19:47.07 | pll | > 1000 should install from the pinned release even if it |
| 19:47.07 | pll | downgrades that package, yet it doesn't. Rather, it just tells |
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| 19:47.07 | buffoon | tomas_, I run debian + X + gnome on a 400MHz and 128 RAM... And I think that debian will run there with fluxbox :) |
| 19:47.16 | Gnea | !tell pll about paste |
| 19:47.19 | exalted | Zrin, library problem? |
| 19:47.28 | Zrin | exalted: yes, -lX11 |
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| 19:47.48 | exalted | yeah let me show you what i've found: "It turns out that the /usr/X11R6/lib directory isn't part of the default ld(1) search path, so I needed to have the flag "-L/usr/X11R6/lib" somewhere before "-lX11" in the offending command." |
| 19:47.52 | pezz_ | I have debian + icewm on a 133mhz laptop with 32mb ram |
| 19:47.57 | tomas_ | apt-get X fluxbox right? |
| 19:48.03 | evaarties | PerfDave: do you think those packages (read-edid, discover and mdetec) aren't usefull? |
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| 19:48.15 | exalted | Sonny, any ideas how to tell ld to search that path also? |
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| 19:48.27 | PerfDave | evaarties: I've never needed to install them manually. |
| 19:48.31 | tarzeau | does the new amsn really work with webcam? can someone try with me please? |
| 19:48.39 | exalted | ++ /etc/ld.so.conf already has that line... |
| 19:48.39 | tarzeau | (preferably you are a woman) |
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| 19:48.50 | Gnea | pezz_: and..? |
| 19:48.56 | exalted | Sonny, sorry about that, i wanted to write: "so" |
| 19:49.07 | evaarties | PerfDave: I did a core install of sarge, didn't select any packages or 'desktop / server / etc' when I installed. |
| 19:49.11 | pezz_ | everyone was bragging about their low specs. I went lower |
| 19:49.13 | weasel00 | tarzeau : that has to be the worst pickup line i have ever heard lol |
| 19:49.20 | tarzeau | weasel00: lol ;) |
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| 19:49.41 | PerfDave | evaarties: I never do that either. |
| 19:50.01 | Gnea | shit, first system i ever installed debian on was a laptop ibm thinkpad 486sx25 20 megs of ram, 700meg hd |
| 19:50.20 | evaarties | PerfDave: I see, well that's just me. I want control over what I install . |
| 19:50.28 | wireddd | Gnea I have one of those |
| 19:50.47 | Gnea | wireddd: it's a lifesaver in emergencies :) |
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| 19:50.49 | PerfDave | evaarties: Uhm, sorry? I always do minimal installs and put stuff on by hand. The "Desktop Environment" task sticks GNOME all over my HDD :) |
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| 19:51.08 | tarzeau | PerfDave: desktop env, sitcks GNOME AND KDE on! |
| 19:51.09 | wireddd | Gnea, mine quit working |
| 19:51.13 | tarzeau | PerfDave: it's really horrible |
| 19:51.21 | tarzeau | PerfDave: i think including some *dm |
| 19:51.35 | evaarties | PerfDave: ah sorry, I misinterpreted :). |
| 19:51.36 | usn | hi folx |
| 19:51.38 | PerfDave | tarzeau: Yeah, I just do a minimal install and apt-get install x-window-system-core kdebase kdm |
| 19:51.41 | exalted | Zrin, http://wiki.videolan.org/index.php/Common_Problems#.22.2Fusr.2Fbin.2Fld:_cannot_find_-lX11.22_Error_on_64-bit_systems |
| 19:51.41 | meneg | hi, how can I exclude the automatic assignment of dns servers by dhcp? (normally done through /etc/network/interfaces now) |
| 19:51.51 | tarzeau | PerfDave: same here, just that i use gnustep and no kdebase/kdm |
| 19:51.52 | PerfDave | meneg: /etc/dhclient.conf |
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| 19:52.01 | Zrin | exalted: now I'm missing X11/IntrinsicP.h ... where may it be? |
| 19:52.04 | streuner | tarzeau: so what's up? |
| 19:52.04 | meneg | thanks PerfDave |
| 19:52.08 | tarzeau | PerfDave: unless on kfreebsd , there i use konqueror, since gecko based browsers are broken and don't work |
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| 19:52.19 | tarzeau | streuner: can you /lastlog technoparty and check what my board is? |
| 19:52.19 | exalted | Zrin, well how the hell i know =) |
| 19:52.22 | Suprano | Hi |
| 19:52.40 | Suprano | What VPN Server Deamon would you suggest to me ? |
| 19:52.44 | Zrin | exalted: I added -L/usr/X11R6/lib to LDFLAGS in boilerplate.mk |
| 19:52.46 | Suprano | *Which |
| 19:52.53 | Gnea | Suprano: openvpn |
| 19:53.01 | PerfDave | Suprano: What sort of VPN do you want to run? OpenVPN is very good, but if you want to use Microsoft VPNs, you want pptpd. |
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| 19:53.13 | vin` | streuner: /lastlog webcam |
| 19:53.22 | XXXUU | Every time that i access this server it says that cannot look up my hostname and then my connection lasts less than 3 min and go off. What must i do? |
| 19:53.30 | tarzeau | streuner: ahh inside the box, there's a booklet saying GA-K8N51GMF-9 that's the model? |
| 19:53.32 | exalted | Zrin, noticed link that ive sent to you? |
| 19:53.38 | PerfDave | XXXUU: Have you read through freenode.net? |
| 19:53.41 | Zrin | exalted: yes, thank you |
| 19:53.49 | streuner | tarzeau: sounds like the mobo |
| 19:53.53 | Suprano | PerfDave, i want to use it for playing networkgames and ftp transferss between friends.. |
| 19:53.57 | exalted | Zrin, yw; for further problems of yours, i have no idea, sorry =( |
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| 19:54.12 | evaarties | one other question: what is needed to let a normal non-root user shutdown the pc ? |
| 19:54.14 | tarzeau | streuner: and it also says Onboard SATA nvidia nforce 430 |
| 19:54.20 | PerfDave | Suprano: If you don't have any particular reason to use one VPN solution over another, I'd go with OpenVPN. |
| 19:54.33 | exalted | Zrin, Can you teach me how to add a new path to ld env. variable? |
| 19:55.05 | Zrin | exalted: look first in Makefile.in or boilerplate.mk ... look for LDFLAGS |
| 19:55.14 | Suprano | PerfDave, Gnea : i am asking because there is the packet tinc - Virtual Private Network daemon , too.. but if you say openVpn i will take that |
| 19:55.29 | exalted | Zrin, what is boilerplate.mk? |
| 19:55.38 | Gnea | Suprano: yeah, openvpn blows tinc out of the water |
| 19:55.50 | Suprano | k thats all i wanted to hear :D |
| 19:55.54 | Zrin | exalted: template for configuring compilation of makefile |
| 19:55.55 | Gnea | :) |
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| 19:56.06 | Zrin | dir |
| 19:56.16 | exalted | Zrin, i though that was makefile.am or .in or something like that |
| 19:56.17 | tuck_je | please? |
| 19:56.18 | exalted | hmm lemme check |
| 19:56.23 | PerfDave | Suprano: Well, I've used OpenVPN, and found it really handy. I've not used tinc. The OpenVPN documentation is good, and support on #openvpn is excellent. |
| 19:56.46 | Zrin | exalted: just look for LDFLAGS |
| 19:57.02 | Suprano | ok thank you for your help :) |
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| 19:58.59 | nvz | weasel00: well if you dont like it, we will give you your money back anyhow |
| 19:59.20 | Gnea | weasel00: with all of the bullshit that goes through here, that's very refreshing to hear/read - thank you :) |
| 19:59.20 | nn- | yes i want my money back |
| 19:59.21 | tarzeau | heh |
| 19:59.26 | nvz | just turn your ticket in and get your money back at the door |
| 19:59.30 | evaarties | what package or packagesource do I need to install Opera on sarge? |
| 19:59.37 | raf256 | http://www.gnu.org/music/free-software-song.ogg OMFG |
| 19:59.37 | PerfDave | Whoo, do we all get kingsleypoints due to weasel00? |
| 19:59.41 | tarzeau | evaarties: it doesn't exist |
| 19:59.49 | tarzeau | raf256: it's horrible |
| 19:59.55 | PerfDave | evaarties: Opera isn't in the Debian repositories because it's not Free. I believe that Opera have their own Debian packages. |
| 19:59.55 | raf256 | tarzeau: I know :D |
| 20:00.00 | raf256 | tarzeau: Its holariouss |
| 20:00.04 | tarzeau | raf256: hehe |
| 20:00.12 | PerfDave | You'll be free, hackers, you'll be free! |
| 20:00.15 | folkert | I upgraded my gnome-desktop to 2.12, but now my keyboard layout is mixed up |
| 20:00.17 | raf256 | haha |
| 20:00.20 | tarzeau | raf256: you play any instruments? |
| 20:00.23 | raf256 | no :) |
| 20:00.25 | weasel00 | PerfDave : kingsleypoints? |
| 20:00.27 | evaarties | ah. ok, I will check out the opera site |
| 20:00.34 | folkert | it should be us-intl, but I can't change back to that setting |
| 20:00.34 | raf256 | we should do .deb with that |
| 20:00.43 | nvz | !info gnome-session |
| 20:00.49 | dpkg | gnome-session: (The GNOME 2 Session Manager), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.12.0-4 (sid), Packaged size: 747 kB, Installed size: 2488 kB |
| 20:00.53 | raf256 | but stallman should get profesisonals to sing it |
| 20:01.00 | nvz | damn 2.12 is in sid |
| 20:01.00 | tarzeau | nobody's using amsn and wants to test cam with me? |
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| 20:01.03 | PerfDave | weasel00: kingsley has some inane system to measure "productivity" depending on how much people get thanked by the people they're helping, with huge penalties for swearing. |
| 20:01.06 | tuck_je | mzz.... |
| 20:01.20 | tuck_je | can someone help me with setting vi as standard text editor? |
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| 20:01.29 | tarzeau | tuck_je: export EDITOR=vi |
| 20:01.36 | agnidz | how the heck do you set the equivalent of the /etc/network/interfaces network option in isc dhpcd? |
| 20:01.51 | PerfDave | raf256: Provided it's not licensed under the GFDL ;) |
| 20:01.59 | Gnea | tuck_je: ln -sf /etc/alternatives/editor /usr/bin/vim |
| 20:02.02 | tuck_je | tarzeau does that override nano as standard then? |
| 20:02.07 | tarzeau | tuck_je: for in where? |
| 20:02.14 | tuck_je | crontab -e |
| 20:02.14 | exalted | Zrin, i don't know where to begin actually =) i have no makefile.am .in or neither boilerplate.mk :S |
| 20:02.17 | tarzeau | tuck_je: yes |
| 20:02.23 | tomas_ | tarzeau: sure, if you tell me how to mount the cam |
| 20:02.35 | tarzeau | tomas_: you don't mount cams.... man |
| 20:02.43 | tarzeau | tomas_: what cam is it? some logitech quickcam? |
| 20:02.44 | Zrin | exalted: go to top of the build directory and "grep LDFLAGS *" |
| 20:02.47 | tomas_ | physically.. |
| 20:02.48 | weasel00 | PerfDave : i'm in 5 channels and no one will give me the time of day for a week cept here and im a debian newb =) |
| 20:02.50 | tarzeau | tomas_: you'll need that kernel module compiled for it |
| 20:02.52 | Zrin | exalted: what do you get? |
| 20:02.57 | tarzeau | tomas_: pardon? |
| 20:03.02 | sepski | agnidz, you don't it figures it out from the subnet mask |
| 20:03.02 | Gnea | tomas_: this isn't a sex line |
| 20:03.07 | tarzeau | tomas_: with lots of lubricant? |
| 20:03.28 | tomas_ | you mount the camera psysically |
| 20:03.30 | tomas_ | you arses |
| 20:03.33 | exalted | Zrin, nothing |
| 20:03.37 | Gnea | LMAO |
| 20:03.37 | tarzeau | Gnea: lol :) |
| 20:03.51 | Zrin | exalted: do you have a Makefile? |
| 20:03.56 | exalted | Zrin, yes i have |
| 20:03.59 | Gnea | tomas_: and you need help doing that? |
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| 20:04.06 | tuck_je | thanks tarzeau! |
| 20:04.07 | tarzeau | Gnea: stop it , i die |
| 20:04.12 | agnidz | sepski: well when i do static configuration and specifry the network option, i can access the internet |
| 20:04.14 | weasel00 | tomas_ : super glue? |
| 20:04.17 | Gnea | tarzeau: almost broke my chair |
| 20:04.20 | Zrin | exalted: was that makefile generated by configure or similar? |
| 20:04.21 | tarzeau | Gnea: hahahaha ,same here |
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| 20:04.29 | agnidz | sepski: and when i do dhcp, i can't, so the problem seems pretty obvious, this network stuff isn't getting supplied |
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| 20:04.34 | nvz | my chair breaks reguarly. the wheels keep comming off |
| 20:04.45 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 20:04.45 | dpkg | methinks debstats is managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 20:04.47 | nn- | wheel chair suckers |
| 20:05.08 | sepski | agnidz, look at ifconfig -a and route -n when configured tru dhcp and compare with static |
| 20:05.11 | exalted | Zrin, oh my bad, heres my output: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/mCKjra98.html |
| 20:05.18 | buffoon | argh, what was that about the resolf.conf, to keep it permanently? Its not here anymore... |
| 20:05.28 | tomas_ | :) |
| 20:05.32 | tomas_ | bad you |
| 20:05.39 | tomas_ | :( |
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| 20:05.45 | exalted | Zrin, an this is just tarball extracted, no configure, no nothing |
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| 20:06.24 | Zrin | exalted: ok, do ./configure --extra-ldflags=/usr/X11R6/lib |
| 20:06.38 | raf256 | I found the pr0 version of song |
| 20:06.42 | raf256 | of OS song |
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| 20:07.07 | raf256 | it's less horrible. the heavy metall version is even more horrible then oryginal though |
| 20:07.19 | tarzeau | raf256: i like two openbsd release songs |
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| 20:07.32 | Zrin | exalted: I don't have that /usr/X11R6/lib64 mentioned in VideoLAN wiki |
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| 20:07.40 | exalted | Zrin, why a parameter now tells me that "Unknown option "--enable-x11grab".", while it was working just fine before... |
| 20:07.46 | exalted | Zrin, oh... :S |
| 20:08.18 | weasel00 | anyone have any suggestions for support regarding postfix besides #postfix? |
| 20:08.24 | backz | hi... Im trying put nameserver 192.168.0.1 on my /etc/resolv.conf but there are something rewriting this file and removing my entry... what is it? |
| 20:08.33 | exalted | Zrin, i used to call ./configure as "./configure --enable-x11grab --enable-gpl", not i did "./configure --extra-ldflags=/usr/X11R6/lib --enable-x11grab --enable-gpl" |
| 20:08.35 | Zrin | exalted: option order? |
| 20:08.39 | exalted | Zrin, might be |
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| 20:09.06 | jonathan` | how do you check the available size on your drivers with deb? |
| 20:09.08 | wireddd | is there a webpage control panel for an iptables based router? |
| 20:09.12 | jonathan` | drives* |
| 20:09.17 | tarzeau | wireddd: no |
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| 20:09.26 | tarzeau | jonathan`: df ? |
| 20:09.37 | jonathan` | thanks |
| 20:09.45 | wireddd | someone had mentioned one yesterday, but I can't remember what it is called |
| 20:10.05 | weasel00 | wireddd : webmin maybe? |
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| 20:11.14 | wireddd | screw it, i'll just make one |
| 20:11.28 | exalted | Zrin, oh ok, that was my bad, i forgot to appy patch this time, ty. |
| 20:11.38 | Zrin | exalted: yw |
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| 20:12.23 | Zrin | which package contains Xmu/StdSel.h ? |
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| 20:12.46 | nvz | !find StdSel.h$ |
| 20:13.02 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'StdSel.h' (2): (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xmu/StdSel.h) in libdevel/libxmu-dev ;; (/usr/lib/TenDRA/lib/include/x5/mu.api/X11/Xmu/StdSel.h) in devel/tendra. |
| 20:13.10 | Zrin | thank you |
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| 20:14.28 | exalted | Zrin, "/usr/bin/ld: /usr/X11R6/lib: No such file: File format not recognized", im about to suicide!! =((( |
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| 20:15.04 | Zrin | exalted: sorry, my fault: --extra-ldflags=-L/usr/X11R6/lib |
| 20:15.13 | exalted | Zrin, =))) |
| 20:15.14 | Zrin | exalted: I forgot -L |
| 20:15.15 | exalted | jeez =) |
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| 20:15.22 | exalted | Zrin, ok a sec. =) |
| 20:16.37 | Gnea | !chillpill |
| 20:16.37 | dpkg | from memory, chillpill is for COOLING THE FSCK DOWN. |
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| 20:19.04 | Esaj | hmm, skype depends on libqt3c102-mt, but it doesn't exist in unstable |
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| 20:19.28 | Zrin | if I install a package and then build it from source, shall I uninstall the package prior to "make install" from build directory? |
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| 20:20.00 | Usiu | Anybody tried to configure this @*^$@ ejabberd ?? |
| 20:20.12 | Usiu | System NOT running to use fully qualified hostnames ;/ |
| 20:20.23 | Usiu | I cant add admin user. |
| 20:20.37 | PerfDave | Zrin: Depends where you're installing it with "make install" |
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| 20:20.44 | dareth | darn, ran out of funyuns! |
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| 20:20.58 | PerfDave | Zrin: If you're building something from source, it's often a good idea to stick it in /usr/local out of apt's way. |
| 20:21.04 | dareth | picked a bad month to quit drinking coke! |
| 20:21.26 | Zrin | PerfDave: ok, then I'll remove the binary package first, and then install to /usr/local |
| 20:21.49 | PerfDave | Zrin: Bear in mind that if you install from source, you'll need to use equivs to let apt know that the package is there to satisfy dependencies. |
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| 20:22.10 | Variax | hi all |
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| 20:22.33 | Zrin | PerfDave: the package is vncserver, what do I need to do? |
| 20:22.49 | rt_5633 | DCC SEND http://www.gnaa.us/ |
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| 20:23.19 | zarchne | Do you think the critical security bug in rssh (#344395) will be fixed in sarge? (I'm actually interested in #339531: rssh: segfault on amd64, but the fix to one is supposed to fix the other.) |
| 20:23.21 | rt_5633 | DCC SEND http://www.gnaa.us/ |
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| 20:23.34 | tarzeau | raf256: stop it |
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| 20:23.42 | tarzeau | raf256: not for you |
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| 20:23.47 | raf256 | tarzeau: ? |
| 20:23.50 | Variax | i need some help :: i wanted to install libsx on deb but there is no deb package and i failed to compile due to #include link not found like X11/shell.h ... |
| 20:24.06 | tarzeau | raf256: broken tab completion |
| 20:24.19 | tarzeau | Variax: got xlibs-dev ? |
| 20:24.38 | Variax | i verify |
| 20:24.46 | Variax | i check |
| 20:24.48 | Gnea | fuodksa;utiodjafkl; |
| 20:24.51 | Gnea | er |
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| 20:24.55 | Gnea | oops, sorry |
| 20:24.58 | PerfDave | Variax: What is this "libsx" of which you speak? |
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| 20:25.27 | lightcap | I'm trying to set up UML under sarge, there's no debs except in testing... So in trying to get the skas patch applied to kernel 2.6.8 I only see skas patches for 2.6.9 and 2.6.7. Does it matter that there's no ska-2.6.8 patch? which of 2.6.9 or .7 should I use then? |
| 20:25.36 | Variax | it s library for c/c++ to do some graphical interface |
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| 20:26.26 | Variax | it s a little old but i need it for school |
| 20:26.44 | ZeNN | anyone: how to filter netbios traffic on a bridged interface (brctl br0) with iptables ? through prerouting or input ?? |
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| 20:28.03 | PerfDave | ZeNN: I didn't think you could do any IP/TCP-level filtering on a bridged interface, only Ethernet filtering. |
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| 20:28.48 | Esaj | why has libqt3c102-mt disappeared from unstable? |
| 20:28.51 | ZeNN | PerfDave: think thats the case, since i'm not able to get it working with iptables |
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| 20:28.59 | ZeNN | but how to proceed ? |
| 20:29.08 | duda | hi |
| 20:29.27 | PerfDave | ZeNN: Don't use a bridged interface? |
| 20:29.30 | nvz | duda: not yet but I am working on it |
| 20:29.30 | duda | Iam from of Peru |
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| 20:29.54 | ZeNN | PerfDave: thats one option, any other available ? |
| 20:29.55 | ZeNN | :) |
| 20:30.01 | Gnea | duda: what is your primary language? |
| 20:30.02 | duda | who speak spanish? |
| 20:30.03 | Variax | i ve installed xlibs-dev nothing change |
| 20:30.03 | Variax | i failed to compiled |
| 20:30.04 | Variax | xstuff.h:1:27: error: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory |
| 20:30.06 | Variax | and many other |
| 20:30.07 | Gnea | !es |
| 20:30.07 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:30.16 | Gnea | !br |
| 20:30.16 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 20:30.17 | Variax | #debian-fr |
| 20:30.24 | chealer9 | Esaj: because it was built with an old gcc |
| 20:30.33 | Gnea | Variax: mind your own business. |
| 20:30.38 | staynalive76 | Is there any way to get around the lately abismally slow security.debian.org?? |
| 20:30.40 | Variax | sry |
| 20:30.47 | duda | #debian-es |
| 20:30.54 | Gnea | spanish, not french |
| 20:30.59 | Variax | i make a mistake |
| 20:31.00 | ZeNN | PerfDave: even if i "break" the bridge than both users are wirelessly connected to the ath0 interface... same effect there |
| 20:31.04 | PerfDave | ZeNN: If you want to do TCP-level filtering, you need to connect your interfaces in a manner that recognises TCP stuff. What are you actually trying to acieve? |
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| 20:31.24 | Thug-N-Me | where are the courier-imap logs located ? |
| 20:31.26 | Thug-N-Me | imap-server |
| 20:31.27 | duda | Je sui programen ubuntu |
| 20:31.48 | Gnea | !ubuntu |
| 20:31.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian.. |
| 20:31.52 | duda | je apelle eddy |
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| 20:32.06 | ZeNN | PerfDave: i'm using the madwifi-ng driver to run my experimental hotspot. What i want to achieve is to prevent inter client traffic in all |
| 20:32.20 | nxf | Thug-N-Me: /var/log/mail.* |
| 20:32.25 | ZeNN | but netbios is the main problem atm |
| 20:32.29 | PerfDave | ZeNN: I don't see how you can hope to achieve that, you can't stop two devices from talking to each other. |
| 20:32.59 | Thug-N-Me | nxf ahh so its in the same log as postfix ... |
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| 20:33.06 | ZeNN | it should be possible... wireless nics can be prohebited to communicate to eachother |
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| 20:33.19 | Systemadmin | why would i want to do this |
| 20:33.20 | Systemadmin | Must run suid root for multiuser support. |
| 20:33.25 | ludwig | Silly question: how can I get get a list of IRC channels I can connect to? |
| 20:33.25 | ludwig | I am using xchat and still did not find it out |
| 20:33.40 | PerfDave | ZeNN: How can you stop two devices from talking to each other, short of spamming the entire RF spectrum? |
| 20:33.44 | nxf | Thug-N-Me: don't know I'm only using courier-mta for smtp |
| 20:33.44 | ZeNN | ludwig: give a /list |
| 20:34.10 | Systemadmin | i want th escreen to run as the user |
| 20:34.17 | Systemadmin | so he can kill it if it hangs |
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| 20:35.16 | ZeNN | PerfDave: i'm also using a Colubris access point which is also running on a propriaty linux distro... and they seem to offer a service which states "prevent inter wireless clients traffic" |
| 20:35.19 | nxf | I just changed the port for sshd in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and called /etc/init.d/ssh restart, but it still listens on port 22 AND the new port, why? |
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| 20:35.29 | Thug-N-Me | * BYE [ALERT] Fatal error: /var/spool/mail/virtual//postmaster/: No such file or directory |
| 20:35.30 | PerfDave | ZeNN: I suspect that's just marketing bullshit. |
| 20:35.33 | Thug-N-Me | thats the error i get when i try to login to imap server any ideea ? |
| 20:36.05 | PerfDave | ZeNN: #wireless may offer better advice, but I just don't see how you can stop two arbitrary devices from talking to each other just by having your wireless device in range without spamming the RF frequencies. |
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| 20:36.38 | ZeNN | PerfDave: thanks... let me give that a change... otherwise vlan should be a nice options |
| 20:36.41 | ZeNN | - |
| 20:36.42 | ZeNN | -s |
| 20:36.50 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: 2.6.16 patch for the extreme card: http://tara.shadowpimps.net/~bcm43xx/bcm43xx-snapshots/all-in-one/bcm43xx-dscape/ |
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| 20:37.02 | PerfDave | ZeNN: vlan as in 802.1x? Won't stop devices from talking to each other. |
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| 20:38.12 | ZeNN | PerfDave: no vlan as in ssid to vlan ... since the madwifi-ng has the ability to use multiple ssid's on the same wireless nic |
| 20:38.37 | daishi | where does debian have previous versions of its packages? |
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| 20:38.51 | SerajewelKS | !snapshots |
| 20:38.51 | dpkg | it has been said that debian snapshot is http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
| 20:38.56 | SerajewelKS | daishi: ^^^ |
| 20:38.58 | daishi | i could have sworn they had some sort of old package repo |
| 20:39.00 | daishi | oo thanks |
| 20:39.16 | daishi | heh i think i was trying snapshot(s).debian.org |
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| 20:39.45 | PerfDave | ZeNN: That still won't stop devices from talking to each other though.l |
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| 20:39.58 | nxf | I don't really have to reboot to stop sshd from listening on the old port no longer found in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ... or do I? |
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| 20:40.16 | cahoot | nxf: no |
| 20:40.17 | daishi | thanks btw |
| 20:41.03 | cahoot | nxf: check your config again |
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| 20:41.24 | ZeNN | PerfDave: ? for the system it is seen as two different nics... why shouldnt it work |
| 20:41.39 | nxf | cahoot: Port XXXX - nothing else - no 22 |
| 20:41.44 | daymoon | have anybody this message in dmesg? eth0: adapter failure, FIFO diagnostic register 2011 |
| 20:41.47 | Thug-N-Me | can someone please give me a link to a good postfix + courier +mysql guide ? |
| 20:42.01 | Systemadmin | anyone good with suid problems? |
| 20:42.05 | Gnea | !googleit |
| 20:42.05 | dpkg | hmm... googleit is #debian is not your search engine. |
| 20:42.11 | Zrin | I've rebuild the vncserver package only to find out that it indeed does segfault :/ ... what shall I try to get a running vnc on amd64 system? |
| 20:42.18 | nxf | Thug-N-Me: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ |
| 20:42.18 | Systemadmin | Gnea, i have been |
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| 20:42.56 | rlm | guys, how install Xgl on debian sarge/sid via apt? |
| 20:43.01 | SerajewelKS | !tell Systemadmin about poll |
| 20:43.09 | nxf | Thug-N-Me: pretty overkill though for a small setup maybe ;) |
| 20:43.17 | Systemadmin | i liek peopel who hang out here and think that nobody has ever used google, and they type a bot command to tell them something they aready knwo |
| 20:43.23 | cahoot | nxf: lsof -i| grep -i ssh says it's listening on more than one port? |
| 20:43.34 | PerfDave | ZeNN: Why should two arbitrary devices give a toss how your system is configured? |
| 20:43.37 | SerajewelKS | Systemadmin: ask a valid question then |
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| 20:43.42 | Systemadmin | i did |
| 20:43.49 | SerajewelKS | Systemadmin:no you did not |
| 20:43.52 | Systemadmin | look up in channel, unles you cam in late |
| 20:44.00 | daishi | why doesnt snapshot.debian.org have .debs? |
| 20:44.08 | PerfDave | Systemadmin: Most people on here who ask obvious questions *haven't* bothered to Google first. |
| 20:44.15 | Systemadmin | <Systemadmin> why would i want to do this |
| 20:44.15 | Systemadmin | <Systemadmin> Must run suid root for multiuser support. |
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| 20:44.26 | Systemadmin | lol |
| 20:44.30 | Systemadmin | run screen as root |
| 20:44.30 | Systemadmin | baa |
| 20:44.32 | SerajewelKS | daishi: to conserve disk space probably |
| 20:44.34 | nxf | cahoot: it shows two ports yes |
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| 20:44.51 | daishi | SerajewelKS oo but i thought they had them |
| 20:45.03 | SerajewelKS | daishi: why do you need them? dpkg-buildpackage |
| 20:45.06 | PerfDave | Systemadmin: This channel moves pretty fast. It's not reasonable to expect even someone who's paying attention to know what you typed ten minutes ago. |
| 20:45.18 | daishi | SerajewelKS heh yea but xorg takes a while to build |
| 20:45.18 | ZeNN | PerfDave: you have a point... ;) |
| 20:45.19 | daishi | ohwell |
| 20:45.22 | nxf | cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep 22 --> nothing |
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| 20:45.28 | SerajewelKS | daishi: are you on sarge? |
| 20:45.32 | Systemadmin | PerfDave, yea you are rightm i just didnt need the i am spaming wait for someone routine |
| 20:45.33 | vertz | I'm having problems getting the Nvidia drivers working.. anyone having the same problem? |
| 20:45.40 | SerajewelKS | vertz: nope |
| 20:45.49 | vertz | Worked a few days ago. but dont work today for some reason :( |
| 20:46.02 | SerajewelKS | vertz: stable/testing/unstable? |
| 20:46.06 | vertz | stable |
| 20:46.07 | PerfDave | vertz: If you don't tell us what problem you're having, what you're trying to do, and what version of Debian you're using, how can anybody know whether they're having the same problem? |
| 20:46.22 | SlayerXP | PerfDave: telepathy, obviously. |
| 20:46.23 | SlayerXP | duh |
| 20:46.24 | SlayerXP | :) |
| 20:46.27 | vertz | yes! |
| 20:46.44 | SerajewelKS | vertz: and you haven't updated nvidia-glx or nvidia-kernel-*? |
| 20:46.59 | daishi | SerajewelKS im on etch and having weird problems with xorg 6.9 |
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| 20:47.09 | SerajewelKS | daishi: ah |
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| 20:47.15 | evaarties | hi.. when I install sarge with package: x-window-system-core and gnome-core I won't get that nice graphical login screen after a reboot. Also, I cannot start 'gnome-session |
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| 20:47.25 | evaarties | get the message: cannot start display |
| 20:47.29 | SerajewelKS | evaarties: apt-get install gdm |
| 20:47.29 | zethreth | Anyone have experience with the experimental Ipv6 protocol with the 2.4 kernel. I'm just setting up iptables and have know idea how well it funtions. I'm wondering if I should move to the 2.6 kernel to make use of this new protocol. |
| 20:47.41 | PerfDave | evaarties: /msg dpkg troubleshooting x |
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| 20:47.54 | evaarties | thanx |
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| 20:48.33 | nxf | cahoot: cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep 22 gives nothing and it still listens there, any way to force a config reload if restart doesn't do it? |
| 20:48.48 | weasel00 | thank you to whoever posted that link to workaround! that fixed my postfix question i have been trying to answer for days now =) |
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| 20:48.59 | SerajewelKS | nxf: if restart doesn't do it, nothing will |
| 20:49.05 | cahoot | nxf: what if you plain stop ssh? |
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| 20:49.43 | nxf | weasel00: you're welcome ;) |
| 20:49.44 | SerajewelKS | cahoot: restart == (stop && start) |
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| 20:50.07 | nxf | cahoot: without console access I hesitate to stop sshd |
| 20:50.12 | weasel00 | nxf : thank you =))))) |
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| 20:50.28 | SerajewelKS | nxf: ssh retains existing connections when the daemon does (they fork and detach from the parent) |
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| 20:50.35 | SerajewelKS | nxf: sshd rather |
| 20:50.46 | cahoot | nxf: so you have a working connection when restarting |
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| 20:50.55 | SerajewelKS | nxf: otherwise the restart would have killed your connection |
| 20:51.06 | nxf | SerajewelKS: ah ok, of course |
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| 20:51.23 | nxf | still can't see what's the difference between stop and start and restart, but will give it a try |
| 20:51.33 | SerajewelKS | nxf: there is no difference |
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| 20:51.57 | moreon_ | DCC SEND http://www.gnaa.us/ |
| 20:51.58 | moreon_ | DCC SEND http://www.gnaa.us/ |
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| 20:52.04 | moreon_ | DCC SEND http://www.gnaa.us/ |
| 20:52.08 | SerajewelKS | !troll moreon_ |
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| 20:52.14 | moreon_ | DCC SEND http://www.gnaa.us/ |
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| 20:52.25 | SerajewelKS | !ops moreon_ spam, DCC exploit |
| 20:52.26 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: moreon_ spam, DCC exploit |
| 20:52.26 | ViaD | Why do not Debian find my SATA disks? |
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| 20:52.36 | moreon_ | DCC SEND http://www.gnaa.us/ |
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| 20:52.51 | ragna | hello, i got a problem with my dvd, iam trying to read a windows burned DVD but it is burned with long names coded of DOS and i am trying to make debian to read it normally but i dont know how i tried to put the charset and codepage but when i try to mount my dvd i get this error. "bad mount option "codepage=850"" how can i fix this?? =O |
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| 20:53.28 | nxf | same problem after /etc/init.d/ssh stop and ... start: still listens on two ports including 22 |
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| 20:54.07 | SerajewelKS | yay k-line |
| 20:54.16 | okaratas | hmm |
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| 20:54.51 | matteo | hi all |
| 20:54.57 | nn- | hello matteo |
| 20:55.18 | matteo | i can't get my pcmcia work |
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| 20:55.24 | matteo | it says: "cs: unable to map card memory!" |
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| 20:56.58 | quiet | i need some help |
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| 20:57.03 | quiet | samba shares |
| 20:57.03 | valdyn | nxf: which ports |
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| 20:57.12 | quiet | from gnome.. i try to browse |
| 20:57.31 | nxf | valdyn: 22 and 4917, the latter one the only port I specified in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 20:57.34 | quiet | when i click on Windows Network it says "Couldn't display "smb:///". |
| 20:57.40 | quiet | i have installed and started samba |
| 20:58.20 | PerfDave | quiet: I can't help you with your problem, but if you keep it all on one line people will be able to read it more easily and will be more likely to give you assistance. |
| 20:58.34 | quiet | oh... sorry.. |
| 20:58.48 | valdyn | nxf: /lastlog nxf |
| 20:58.51 | valdyn | nxf: ops |
| 20:58.58 | quiet | heh... yeah... that did look kind of dysfunctional |
| 20:59.21 | valdyn | nxf: killall sshd and restart it |
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| 20:59.49 | cahoot | nxf: make a new connection on 4917 and kill the one on 22 |
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| 21:01.18 | valdyn | nxf: i suspect the init script might only kill and restart specific sshds, like the one listening on the port from its config |
| 21:01.27 | prodope | i'm having problems building a custom kernel... make install isn't installing, it's running 'make' again... anyone know a reason for this? |
| 21:01.43 | valdyn | nxf: so you could aswell revert the port, then stop, then set you custom port and start it |
| 21:01.55 | nxf | cahoot && caldyn: that did it, thank you :) |
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| 21:02.04 | SlayerXP | prodope: what makes you think "make install" will install the kernel? is that what the docs said? |
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| 21:02.38 | prodope | SlayerXP: it's the way i've been building the kernel on this machine as long as i can remember |
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| 21:02.55 | excitable_boy | howdy y'all. i seem to have run into a circular issue with apt-get/synaptic/dpkg and openoffice.org-debian-files_1.1.3-8+1_all.deb |
| 21:03.00 | prodope | this problem only started with 2.6.15.5, .4 worked properly with make install |
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| 21:03.36 | nxf | cahoot && caldyn: restarted it after killing the old one and only the one on 4917 got a new pid so I guess you're right. am almost a total newbie to debian and linux in general, so I appreciate your help. thanks again. |
| 21:03.49 | excitable_boy | the file shows as broken. running dpkg (alone or via front-end) to remove it, it returns a "try reinstalling before removing" error message. but a reinstall fails, too. |
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| 21:03.56 | excitable_boy | and it's taken cupsys down with it. |
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| 21:04.20 | prodope | SlayerXP: why, make install doesn't run installkernel anymore or something? cause i have always used 'make install' after make and make modules_install |
| 21:04.28 | valdyn | excitable_boy: you have to fix the failing script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
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| 21:06.23 | Phlexonance | PerdDave: hi, still here? I have probs downloading the libxvidcore4, it seems some index files failed to download |
| 21:06.23 | excitable_boy | valdyn, openoffice.org-debian-files.conffiles sound like the correct script? (i'm not much on bash scripting) |
| 21:06.49 | quiet | okay, I am running etch.. i have samba installed and running. In GNOME... i go to Places -> Network Servers -> Windows Network. Which gives me an error saying: "Couldn't display "smb:///". |
| 21:06.52 | valdyn | excitable_boy: running dpkg --remove should tell the failing script.. |
| 21:06.58 | valdyn | excitable_boy: running dpkg -i even |
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| 21:07.08 | excitable_boy | okay, sb1 |
| 21:07.51 | valdyn | quiet: having samba installed has nothing to do with this |
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| 21:08.27 | quiet | valdyn, okay? |
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| 21:08.43 | figfig | In the past, I have used iptables, and I have used debian, but I have never used iptables in my debian environment. What is the proper way to incorporate iptables firewall rules in a Debian distro, for instance, where should the script that runs the rules be placed, and is there a standard package that contains standard scripts. |
| 21:09.07 | valdyn | !ipmasq |
| 21:09.07 | Phlexonance | PerfDave: well 2 typos in a row, first in the sources.list and then in your nicnkame^^ well I got the libxvidcore4 now...ahhh just nevermind^^ |
| 21:09.07 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
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| 21:09.53 | figfig | I will research ipmasq. Thanks for the pointer. |
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| 21:10.30 | nickname00 | what is url for graycat wikki ? |
| 21:10.33 | agnidz | the Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO @ tldp.org is good too |
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| 21:12.43 | _wendell | What is the scrollback key in irssi? |
| 21:12.51 | nn- | PgUP |
| 21:13.16 | excitable_boy | valdyn, getting several error msgs: dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 132, /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 16: 8126 Illegal instruction update-mime |
| 21:13.29 | _wendell | nn-: Any other default keys? That one doesn't work. It scrolls up to my terminal window history :) |
| 21:13.41 | valdyn | excitable_boy: so that is the script that is failing... |
| 21:14.08 | valdyn | excitable_boy: /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.postrm |
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| 21:14.17 | excitable_boy | okay |
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| 21:15.11 | nn- | _wendell: what terminal emulator are you using? |
| 21:15.34 | ened | Hi all, someone aware where to include IDE-RAID support in the kernel? We're using 2.6.15 and can not find the configure switch |
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| 21:17.35 | matteo | any hint? |
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| 21:19.17 | teh_nuk0r | startkeylogger |
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| 21:19.49 | dareth | damn yo...<no carrier> |
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| 21:22.15 | DaDave2 | hi all |
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| 21:22.57 | DaDave | hi all |
| 21:23.17 | jerkface | Can someone tell me how to start cupsys automatically? I'm a gentoo user. ;) |
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| 21:23.34 | DaDave | is there a simple to use tool for replace (with regexp) strings in multiple files? |
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| 21:24.07 | SlayerXP | DaDave: sed |
| 21:24.12 | valdyn | jerkface: it starts automatically by default |
| 21:24.13 | stoft | perl |
| 21:24.17 | jerkface | cool thanks |
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| 21:27.25 | DaDave | SlayerXP: do you got a example? i am not very familiary with sed... |
| 21:28.06 | SlayerXP | DaDave: me either. |
| 21:28.24 | DaDave | hmm... damn... |
| 21:28.34 | DaDave | stoft: any exmaple how to do with perl? |
| 21:28.51 | valdyn | DaDave: man sed |
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| 21:30.17 | dino4k | DaDave: i could give you one in python :p |
| 21:30.55 | DaDave | i found one: perl -pi~ -e 's/foo/bar/' [files] |
| 21:31.11 | mrex | hi, i moved my files around (to another computer and back again) of some program i was making and when i tried to run it, it says permission denied. Even if i try as root! why? |
| 21:31.21 | DaDave | valdyn: if i'd have the time to read the man page i wouldn't asked here... but thanks anyway... |
| 21:31.45 | mrex | i recompiled etc, and i can write fine to that directory etc (all ownerships and permissions seem correct) |
| 21:31.46 | dino4k | mrex: chmod +x |
| 21:31.52 | mrex | i did that |
| 21:31.53 | beardy | DaDave: If you don't have the time to read the manpage, don't ask here. |
| 21:32.16 | DaDave | beardy: weird opinion... |
| 21:33.02 | beardy | DaDave: You'll find out, hopefully sooner than later, that that is the most common opinion here, at least among those who has a clue. |
| 21:33.19 | dino4k | mrex: hm,.. are the files on another partion as the root one? |
| 21:33.32 | mrex | dino4k, yes |
| 21:33.42 | mrex | but i cant run it as root even |
| 21:33.58 | dino4k | mrex: ah, thats it :p you have to add the exec option to the mount |
| 21:33.59 | stoft | DaDave: reading the sed manpage it seems like a capable tool for the job, I would go with the one I'm most comfortable with, in my case perl, but the choice is up to you. Either way you go I'm guessing you'll have to do a bit of learning on your own. |
| 21:34.29 | mrex | dino4k, thanks, it wasnt there ;) |
| 21:35.03 | KsiLaptop | Anyone have success with a broadcom BCM5780 dual-port card? |
| 21:35.42 | PerfDave | KsiLaptop: Have you asked Broadcom for Linux drivers? |
| 21:36.04 | KsiLaptop | They're on their site, but I have no idea how to install them. |
| 21:36.24 | KsiLaptop | And yes, I have read the readme,. |
| 21:36.29 | PerfDave | KsiLaptop: Have you asked Broadcom for Linux driver installation instructions? ;) |
| 21:36.37 | PerfDave | KsiLaptop: What's the URL of the README? |
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| 21:37.15 | DaDave | stoft: why read man pages when you just need to to a single simple task which by guarantee already done by the people 1000 times before... ah, whatever. i found a solution. but pointing to the man page is so much easier than realy helping, isn't it? |
| 21:37.40 | nn- | yes it's very easy |
| 21:37.53 | KsiLaptop | http://broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/downloaddrivers.php Its in the zipfile. |
| 21:38.53 | PerfDave | Pointing people to the manpage *is* helping :) |
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| 21:39.23 | DaDave | PerfDave: so it may be... |
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| 21:39.36 | dino4k | PerfDave: i think most people know about manpages so thats not realy helpful |
| 21:39.39 | stoft | DaDave: of course it's easy, especially since I would have to think about it a bit before coming up with a solution. You might as well do that thinking yourself since I have other things to think about. |
| 21:39.57 | PerfDave | dino4k: You'd be surprised at how many people don't know, or don't think to check them. |
| 21:40.01 | streuner | dino4k: most of the people are too lazy to read those ;-) |
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| 21:40.19 | root_______ | HELLO |
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| 21:40.34 | stoft | dino4k: manpages yes, but you still need the parameter to follow "man", I wouldn't even have thought about sed as a possible tool if it hadn't been mentioned |
| 21:40.38 | streuner | !nickometer root_______ |
| 21:40.40 | dpkg | 'root_______' is 99.9727% lame, streuner |
| 21:40.54 | Zugschlus | !nickometer streuner |
| 21:40.56 | dpkg | 'streuner' is 0.000% lame, zugschlus |
| 21:41.05 | streuner | Zugschlus: :-P |
| 21:41.11 | redguy | !nickometer dpkg |
| 21:41.12 | dpkg | 'dpkg' is 0.000% lame, redguy |
| 21:41.14 | nkuttler | !lost Zugschlus |
| 21:41.14 | dino4k | streuner: right :) |
| 21:41.19 | nkuttler | grr |
| 21:41.29 | root_______ | FYI, just so you know Gentoo has surpassed Debian in H.P.D, unroll your loops guys! |
| 21:41.31 | Zugschlus | !nickometer dino4k |
| 21:41.32 | dpkg | 'dino4k' is 14.000% lame, zugschlus |
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| 21:41.58 | PerfDave | H.P.D? |
| 21:42.04 | root_______ | hits per day |
| 21:42.26 | GaiaX11XOrg | How do i see another linux machine in my linux debian server? Is it with nfs? |
| 21:42.40 | nkuttler | ms still wins i guess |
| 21:42.41 | lakcaj | see another? |
| 21:42.49 | PerfDave | root_______: Yeah, when I had a Gentoo box I hit it repeatedly ;) |
| 21:43.08 | PerfDave | GaiaX11XOrg: What do you mean by "see another linux machine"? |
| 21:43.20 | GaiaX11XOrg | See and share the files |
| 21:43.22 | root_______ | GaiaX11, open your eyes |
| 21:43.23 | PerfDave | GaiaX11XOrg: nfs allows you to mount filesystems from other machines running NFS over the network. |
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| 21:43.54 | lakcaj | GaiaX11XOrg, or use ssh to login to the other machine, and scp to copy files back and forth - depends on how you want it to work. |
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| 21:44.38 | ftp3 | how can I tell exactly what apt installs for a package? For example, apache2.. I would like to know everything it configures.. php? ssl? etc :-) |
| 21:44.49 | lakcaj | eeffff, because we haven't seen that 1000 times in the last couple days ;) |
| 21:44.50 | eeffff | stopkeylogger |
| 21:44.55 | DaDave | stoft: okay, so why not simply say nothing or "i don't have time to help" instead of saying "read a man page of a tool that can do what you want besides 100 other things". saying that is not helpfull at all... |
| 21:44.55 | GaiaX11XOrg | I mean if i am in a small home local network with or mor machines |
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| 21:45.08 | PerfDave | ftp3: What apt installs depends on what you've got installed already. You can look at the dependencies for the package. |
| 21:45.22 | lakcaj | ftp3, dpkg -L apache will list all the files apache provided |
| 21:45.31 | ftp3 | perfdave and lakcaj, thanks :-) |
| 21:45.46 | lakcaj | provided - past tense, once it is installed |
| 21:45.47 | lakcaj | :) |
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| 21:46.01 | PerfDave | apt-file will show contents of uninstalled packages, no? |
| 21:46.07 | stoft | DaDave: I'll counter your question with another question, how did you find the perl script solution you found? |
| 21:46.11 | redguy | PerfDave: yup |
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| 21:46.48 | nn- | how can I remove unneeded library packages from my system? |
| 21:47.05 | PerfDave | nn-: deborphan and debfoster, probably. |
| 21:47.11 | dondelelcaro | nn-: use aptitude or similar to mark them as automatically installed. |
| 21:47.13 | dino4k | nn-: there are several ways, debfoster is nice :) |
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| 21:49.12 | okaratas | hello channel |
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| 21:49.44 | kaykay | hello room |
| 21:50.02 | nn- | where's the difference between deborphan and debfoster? |
| 21:50.13 | pipeline | they do opposite things |
| 21:50.32 | dondelelcaro | nn-: different implementations of the same idea. I'd personally suggest using aptitude though, as it does that sort of thing in a much more configurable manner. |
| 21:50.32 | kaykay | what kind of room is this |
| 21:50.33 | dino4k | nn-: debfoster is less automaitc |
| 21:50.34 | nn- | opposite? |
| 21:50.42 | kaykay | No body talks english? |
| 21:50.49 | dondelelcaro | kaykay: this isn't a room, it's a channel; just ask your question. |
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| 21:51.01 | kaykay | oh,channel |
| 21:51.05 | kaykay | how does it work? |
| 21:51.15 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: hes just messing around |
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| 21:51.34 | dondelelcaro | kaykay: do you actually have a #debian related question to ask? |
| 21:51.36 | DaDave | stoft. i found the solution with my old friend google... |
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| 21:51.47 | kaykay | Ok |
| 21:51.48 | kaykay | thanks |
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| 21:52.02 | stoft | DaDave: and was that before or after I said "perl"? |
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| 21:52.15 | PerfDave | KsiLaptop: Hmm, it seems from http://broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/faq_drivers.php#tg3 that your NIC uses the tg3 driver, which was IIRC removed from Debian over licensing issues. Not sure what happened about it, but you may wish to consider using an upstream kernel source from kernel.org and compiling it on Debian with make-kpkg, since the upstream kernel maintainers don't seem to be concerned about violating licenses to distribute code :) |
| 21:52.24 | zinosat | how can I sort the lines of the text file by their lenght ? |
| 21:52.26 | beardy | kaykay: If you really are serious, read this, http://irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html otherwise go away. |
| 21:52.30 | Shadowcat | holy long line |
| 21:52.41 | ftp3 | hmm, there is no apt-install for qmail vpopmail :-( |
| 21:52.48 | dondelelcaro | !qmail |
| 21:52.48 | dpkg | from memory, qmail is a non-free (it's illegal to distribute modified binaries) MTA by djb, or http://www.qmail.org/, or for good getting-started docs see LWQ: http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html, or an MTA that insists on having 3.4 million configuration files spread throughout the filesystem. for reasons why you shouldn't use qmail, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2004/02/msg00179.html or ... |
| 21:52.49 | GoAuLd | nn- : the diference is orphaner is automatic and less acurate |
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| 21:53.12 | Tau | witam |
| 21:53.14 | Tau | hi |
| 21:53.30 | Tau | anyone pl? |
| 21:53.36 | GoAuLd | nn-, if you use debfoster you have to especifically agree or deny (among other options) with each paket installed in your system |
| 21:53.36 | nn- | debfoster ist fine, thx |
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| 21:53.44 | nn- | that's what i wanted |
| 21:53.46 | beardy | !pl |
| 21:53.46 | dpkg | somebody said pl was sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
| 21:53.53 | Tau | thx |
| 21:54.05 | GoAuLd | and it locates more orphaner packages than deborphan |
| 21:54.21 | sayler | hello: I'm looking for information on how to build profiling versions of libraries (that do note have -prof packages). Any "debian" way to do this? |
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| 21:54.25 | Tau | #debian.pl is empty |
| 21:54.36 | nn- | Excellent! |
| 21:54.42 | beardy | Tau: Try to ask in english here. |
| 21:55.03 | Tau | i heve problem with start install |
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| 21:55.24 | Tau | i try to instal on Pentium 100Mhz |
| 21:55.33 | beardy | Tau: How much RAM do you have? |
| 21:55.41 | nn- | 16 i bet |
| 21:55.42 | Tau | 32 MB |
| 21:55.46 | nn- | nooo |
| 21:55.59 | beardy | Tau: What is the problem you are having? What heppens? |
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| 21:56.38 | DaDave | stoft: it was before the perl thing. i just searched for "linux multiple file regexp replace" |
| 21:56.58 | stoft | ok |
| 21:57.18 | Tau | i booting first install cd.. i see splashscreen.. then linux ... its start loading and then screen is black and everything stops |
| 21:57.34 | beardy | Tau: And the last thing you see on the screen is? |
| 21:57.41 | GoAuLd | tau drop that shit and buy the100$ laptop |
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| 21:57.49 | chr1s | hi everyone |
| 21:57.59 | chr1s | I've got php4 on apache2 almost running, except for one thing |
| 21:58.16 | chr1s | session_start takes an incredibly long amount of time |
| 21:58.25 | sayler | goauld: in theory you should be able to run it on a system of that class.. |
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| 21:58.38 | chr1s | does anyone know of a what kind of bug that could be? |
| 21:58.51 | beardy | chr1s: /msg dpkg enter |
| 21:58.59 | Tau | PCI: Probing PCI Hardware (Bus:00) |
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| 21:59.20 | DogWater | anyone know how to figure out which deb or package provides what thing? for example I need something called 'libuuid' |
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| 21:59.35 | Dantix | anyone, can give me an idea about what centos is in comparisson with debian? |
| 21:59.35 | GoAuLd | Tau debian woody requieres less memory to install |
| 21:59.40 | beardy | Tau: What PCI cards does the machine have? |
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| 21:59.41 | deadcat | DogWater: apt-cache search libuuid |
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| 22:00.01 | PerfDave | Dantix: To give you an idea, CentOS is nothing to do with Debian :) |
| 22:00.06 | deadcat | Dantix: no |
| 22:00.23 | Tau | only old s3 vga |
| 22:00.24 | GoAuLd | tau: once installed debian woody you can upgrade to sarge |
| 22:00.36 | jjazz | DogWater: apt-file search libuuid |
| 22:00.37 | sayler | tau: was the machine running a previous OS ? |
| 22:00.45 | Dantix | PerfDave: is linux no? why do you say nothing to do? |
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| 22:01.12 | deadcat | Dantix: we dont know |
| 22:01.14 | Tau | with win98 it's works |
| 22:01.18 | Thug-N-Me | ls openvisp-admin not available via apt ? |
| 22:01.24 | walt | I'm unable to get Debian Sarge's exim4 to send email out to my ISP's smarthost. /var/spool/exim4/msglog is empty, but mainlog says: 2006-03-06 16:22:34 1FGNA2-00037U-AB *> failure@magma.ca R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost H=mail.magma.ca [206.191.0.228] |
| 22:01.26 | dondelelcaro | GoAuLd: the memory requirement is because of the need to process the dependency graph. If you can't install, you won't be able to upgrade either. |
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| 22:01.57 | dondelelcaro | Tau: what is the last message that is visible? Did you try using install26? Did you try using noacpi or any of the other kernel boot options? |
| 22:02.00 | sayler | tau: no network cards, no modems, no sound cards ? |
| 22:02.18 | Tau | yes |
| 22:02.21 | Tau | i try |
| 22:02.22 | DogWater | hm so libuuid doesnt exist according to apt-file |
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| 22:02.24 | DogWater | nice work |
| 22:02.33 | Tau | PCI: Probing PCI Hardware (Bus:00) |
| 22:02.36 | PerfDave | Dantix: It has no connection with Debian at all, other than incuding some of the same software. Ask CentOS what their distro is. |
| 22:03.07 | Bellyeye | anyone working on seamonkey packages? |
| 22:03.11 | DogWater | looks like systemimager 3.6.3 will not be building on good ole debian lol |
| 22:03.17 | sett | what im client for icq u use ppl? |
| 22:03.28 | dondelelcaro | sett: people generally use gaim or bitlbee |
| 22:03.37 | deadcat | sett: centericq |
| 22:03.46 | daymoon | centericq rulez |
| 22:03.50 | Tau | ? |
| 22:03.54 | sett | I am now on centericq |
| 22:03.55 | deadcat | DogWater: whats wrong with the systemimager version in debian? |
| 22:03.58 | jayr168_ | anybody have any idea why bitchx is so hard to use? |
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| 22:04.09 | deadcat | sett: does it d/c you for no freakinr eason? |
| 22:04.12 | jayr168_ | I cant seem to find nick list? |
| 22:04.17 | dondelelcaro | jayr168_: use irssi instead; bitchx is just garbage. |
| 22:04.25 | dondelelcaro | if you want the nicklist, just /who |
| 22:04.25 | Tau | some old Red Hat work's on this machine |
| 22:04.26 | DogWater | Besides the fact that it doesnt create an initrd image and the new version of the server needs one to create the master script? absolutely nothing !!! |
| 22:04.32 | deadcat | even the name is offensive to some people |
| 22:04.55 | deadcat | DogWater: time to build it yourself |
| 22:04.56 | eeyore- | deadcat: bitch is a legitimate word |
| 22:05.06 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: all words are legitimate... |
| 22:05.10 | deadcat | eeyore-: ya. but not the way those people use it |
| 22:05.12 | beardy | Tau: Try to boot with this "linux26 video=vga16:off", or only "linux26". That means, type that, and hit Enter when you are at the splash screen. |
| 22:05.12 | DogWater | deadcat right i'm trying, but there isnt an e2fsprogs-devel package |
| 22:05.14 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: even a word like ;asdlkj;askldj is... |
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| 22:05.23 | DogWater | hence, no gameshow |
| 22:05.30 | eeyore- | what next, ban "shag"? :-) |
| 22:05.32 | deadcat | DogWater: doh |
| 22:05.38 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: what area you trying to do? |
| 22:05.39 | jjazz | DogWater: libuuid is in testing. I don't know about sarge. |
| 22:05.41 | DogWater | which is a little sad, actually |
| 22:06.08 | dondelelcaro | !info libuuid1 sarge |
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| 22:06.14 | DogWater | is there like a hidden repo somewhere where you can get useful stuff? |
| 22:06.18 | sayler | beardy, tau: looking at boot logs APM is usually the next message |
| 22:06.19 | dpkg | libuuid1: (universally unique id library), section libs, is required. Version: 1.37-2sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 100 kB |
| 22:06.21 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: ^^^ |
| 22:06.27 | DogWater | Yeah, thats not what it needs. |
| 22:06.31 | levander | I need to download a source code deb and compile it. Somebody can give me a basic idea of any dpkg tools available to do this? Just don't know where to get started looking for information. |
| 22:06.42 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: well, perhaps if you explain what you're trying to do, one of us will be able to help you. |
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| 22:06.53 | deadcat | DogWater: i have 3.6.2 in unstable |
| 22:06.53 | DogWater | it needs the e2fsprogs-devel tools |
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| 22:07.03 | eeyore- | DogWater: what do you want to do? |
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| 22:07.10 | dondelelcaro | levander: apt-get source foopkg; apt-get build-dep foopkg; apt-get install fakeroot build-essential; cd foo-pkg*; fakeroot debian/rules clean binary; |
| 22:07.10 | DogWater | compile systemimager 3.6.3 |
| 22:07.16 | DogWater | from source |
| 22:07.26 | eeyore- | DogWater: doesn't debian have a *source* package of that version? |
| 22:07.30 | jayr168 | is x-chat better than irssi? |
| 22:07.42 | jjazz | jayr168: no |
| 22:07.43 | jayr168 | which is easier to use like mIRC? |
| 22:07.44 | daymoon | jayr168: no |
| 22:07.46 | Tau | so what i can do? (sorry i'm newbie) |
| 22:07.47 | deadcat | eeyore-: only 3.6.2.. thats unstable |
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| 22:07.53 | eeyore- | ah |
| 22:07.54 | deadcat | jayr168: xchat |
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| 22:08.08 | nimak | jayr168, its a matter of oppinion |
| 22:08.13 | sayler | tau: maybe add apm=off to the boot process? |
| 22:08.15 | jayr168 | ic |
| 22:08.21 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: why don't you start with the Debian packages as a base, and then use uupgrade to adapt them to the 3.6.3 revision? |
| 22:08.24 | jayr168 | I cant seem to find irssi |
| 22:08.26 | quiet | mount -t smbfs -o users,rw //computer/fileshare /mount/place returns: "cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it." |
| 22:08.29 | dondelelcaro | jayr168: it's irssi-text |
| 22:08.29 | eeyore- | DogWater: here's a cheat ... go grab the 3.6.3 source tarball, go grab the debian 3.6.2 package, move the debian/ directory over, dpkg-buildpackage :-) |
| 22:08.32 | beardy | jayr168: irssi-test |
| 22:08.36 | sayler | eg linux26 apm=off |
| 22:08.37 | beardy | jayr168: irssi-text .. |
| 22:08.43 | sayler | Think that's right |
| 22:08.44 | Tau | linux26 apm=off ? |
| 22:08.50 | levander | dondelelcaro: Thanks, I'm looking into it. |
| 22:08.52 | beardy | Tau: Yes, try that. |
| 22:08.53 | jayr168 | its the text version of irssi? |
| 22:08.58 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: a simple apt-get build-dep systemimager; will get the build deps for you. |
| 22:09.00 | jayr168 | theres no GUI? |
| 22:09.04 | jjazz | jayr168: there is only a text version. |
| 22:09.06 | beardy | jayr168: It's the only version of irssi. |
| 22:09.08 | dondelelcaro | jayr168: there's no gui. |
| 22:09.12 | eeyore- | (or run gentoo) :-) |
| 22:09.14 | dondelelcaro | guis are rather useless... |
| 22:09.19 | beardy | jayr168: The GUI version is not available anymore. |
| 22:09.20 | jayr168 | ohh il go for xchat then |
| 22:09.20 | unfo | in unstable they changed the name to irssi. |
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| 22:09.25 | DogWater | eeyore-: where specifically is there a 3.6.2 package for debian |
| 22:09.30 | DogWater | all i could find is the rpms |
| 22:09.36 | dondelelcaro | !+info systemimager-client |
| 22:09.42 | dpkg | systemimager-client: (Utilities for creating an image and upgrading client machines), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.6.2-2 (sid), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 22:09.45 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: see above. |
| 22:09.52 | DogWater | right but i'm running 3.1 |
| 22:09.53 | dondelelcaro | !tell DogWater -about pdo |
| 22:10.02 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: well, get a backport; they should be available. |
| 22:10.17 | unfo | hi all |
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| 22:10.30 | Tau | still nothig |
| 22:10.31 | jayr168 | deadcat: what IRC client are you using? |
| 22:10.31 | nimak | i thought there was a graphical version of irssi |
| 22:10.43 | jayr168 | beardy: what irc client are you using? |
| 22:10.45 | jjazz | nimak: There was. No more. |
| 22:10.48 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: if 3.2.3-6 is new enough, stable has that. |
| 22:10.51 | jayr168 | bitch_newbie:test |
| 22:10.51 | beardy | jayr168: irssi |
| 22:10.57 | unfo | is there a way to get a list of all files that get opened in the next 15 seconds that weren't open before? |
| 22:11.14 | deadcat | jayr168: irssi |
| 22:11.17 | bitch_newbie | jayr168: bitchx |
| 22:11.17 | unfo | lsof has a repeat option but i prefer non-shell-script solutions :) |
| 22:11.17 | dondelelcaro | unfo: find with atime will give that to you... |
| 22:11.19 | sayler | tau: dies in the same place ? |
| 22:11.28 | jayr168 | ic |
| 22:11.29 | nimak | jayr168, xchat |
| 22:11.34 | unfo | dondelelcaro: in all dirs on all my hdd? |
| 22:11.38 | dondelelcaro | unfo: yes. |
| 22:11.38 | jayr168 | im using xchat |
| 22:11.39 | DogWater | dondelelcaro: there still is no initrd creation |
| 22:11.45 | eeyore- | DogWater: doesn't matter :-) you're gonna compile from source, right? why does it matter that you are running 3.1 |
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| 22:11.59 | quiet | can someone please tell me what is need to browse/mount smb shares... it's from a server 2003 domain.. |
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| 22:12.19 | eeyore- | quiet: smbmount |
| 22:12.20 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: you're going to have to be slightly more complete in your question. What exactly is the issue there? |
| 22:12.21 | DogWater | eeyore-: i'm only going to compile from source if i can find e2fsprogs-devel |
| 22:12.29 | Tau | yes |
| 22:12.31 | Aerta | anyone know what to do to get gnome taskbars back? |
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| 22:12.45 | DogWater | dondelelcaro: erm 3.2.3 doesnt have half of the things that you need to create an image that works with 3.6.2 server which is what the server is running |
| 22:12.49 | beardy | quiet: smbclient and smbmount |
| 22:13.04 | unfo | dondelelcaro: find: invalid argument 0.01 to -atime :) |
| 22:13.24 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: ok, so backport 3.6.2 to stable; it's not that difficult to do. You also almost definetly want e2fslibs-dev, not e2fsprogs-dev. |
| 22:13.28 | unfo | so i guess its time for me to hack up a perl script. |
| 22:13.30 | beardy | Tau: And if you do "linux apm=off" ? |
| 22:13.31 | Aerta | has anyone else even had their gnome taskbars dissapear lately? |
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| 22:13.49 | quiet | searchfinds nothing called smbmount |
| 22:13.51 | unfo | Aerta: i don't use gnome. what did you try already though? |
| 22:13.53 | quiet | smbfs |
| 22:13.59 | quiet | which i already have |
| 22:14.05 | Tau | too |
| 22:14.05 | beardy | quiet: mount away then |
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| 22:14.28 | dondelelcaro | unfo: what are you actually trying to do, though? |
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| 22:14.36 | DogWater | Ok, A) there is nothing matching 'imager' in testing or unstable B) I've installed every package that matches e2fs and its still telling me i need to install e2fsprogs-devel |
| 22:14.49 | quiet | beardy, "cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it." |
| 22:14.55 | unfo | unfo: i'm trying to find out which vimsyntax files i use for a random coding experiment i'm thinking of. |
| 22:15.00 | unfo | dondelelcaro: i'm trying to find out which vimsyntax files i use for a random coding experiment i'm thinking of. |
| 22:15.02 | Aerta | unfo: apt-get update'ing some more :) so far the problem hasn't gone away though. seems tiresome enough maybe nobody else has it, or it would be a topic here, I guess I should submit a bug |
| 22:15.03 | DogWater | according to the url you sent in that msg anyway |
| 22:15.13 | beardy | Tau: Do you have another graphics card / vga card, which you can try to use instead? |
| 22:15.13 | seb- | help! i upgraded some packages to debian unstable and now my gnome desktop makes weird noises at times.... i can't find desktop sound setting that is doing it! |
| 22:15.14 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=imager&searchon=names&subword=1&version=stable&release=all |
| 22:15.18 | unfo | Aerta: did you try google and Google Groups? |
| 22:15.32 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: considering the fact that I just ran the search, and came up with the answers that I was giving you... you may want to try again. |
| 22:15.40 | Tau | old ISA Trident ... |
| 22:15.53 | unfo | dondelelcaro: but, all of them APPEAR to have the same atime |
| 22:15.55 | dondelelcaro | unfo: so strace the code that you're using. |
| 22:16.00 | Aerta | unfo: no, I guess I should give that a shot next |
| 22:16.10 | Tau | try? |
| 22:16.16 | beardy | Tau: Will work as good if you aren't going to use X, how that will work I don't know, but perhaps fine. |
| 22:16.24 | beardy | Tau: Yeah, give it a try. |
| 22:16.34 | unfo | Aerta: try a quick google search (1st 10 results) and googlegroups.com search, then come back here or to channel #gnome and ask. |
| 22:16.47 | DogWater | yeah, i thought i mentioned that 3.2.3 isnt going to work; hence my need to build it from source |
| 22:16.52 | Tau | i need this only for terminal .. so it's no problem |
| 22:17.08 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: that's just what is in stable. unstable has 3.6.2, like I've said 3 times already. |
| 22:17.10 | unfo | Aerta: make sure to stick the word Debian somewhere in your search terms. :) |
| 22:17.17 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=imager&searchon=names&subword=1&version=unstable&release=all |
| 22:17.22 | beardy | Tau: Take out the pci card and put in that isa card, and try again. |
| 22:17.41 | ufo | what is the main difrense between ubuntu and debian? |
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| 22:17.45 | zarchne | What's the best way to get a fixed rssh for sarge? Compile 2.3.0 myself? |
| 22:17.46 | Tau | ok |
| 22:17.46 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: you can do a manual backport, or just use those packages to figure out the build dependencies because they know about it. |
| 22:17.57 | dondelelcaro | ufo: ask #ubunto; they would know. |
| 22:18.02 | DogWater | they know about the dependencies for 3.2.3 |
| 22:18.04 | dondelelcaro | zarchne: which bug are you talking about? |
| 22:18.08 | ufo | dondelelcaro: and you dont? |
| 22:18.08 | dondelelcaro | DogWater: and 3.6.2. |
| 22:18.18 | dondelelcaro | ufo: this is #debian; we don't run Ubuntu here. |
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| 22:18.42 | dondelelcaro | ufo: since they've modified Debian, they'll be in a much better position to tell you exactly what they've changed. |
| 22:18.47 | zarchne | dondelelcaro: 339531 |
| 22:18.49 | unfo | ufo: ubuntu is targeted at novices, debian is not, so you end up with a better and more powerful system with debian but you may need to ask on irc for help or ask a friend for help getting set up. |
| 22:18.53 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 339531 |
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| 22:18.56 | dpkg | #339531:N[rssh] rssh: segfault on amd64 in log_msg(); Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:18:01 UTC |
| 22:19.24 | zarchne | dondelelcaro: but it looks like 344395 is also relevant. |
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| 22:19.51 | deadcat | yayyyy. i passed my library studey class. (= |
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| 22:20.05 | dondelelcaro | zarchne: well, you can easily recompile it if you're hitting that bug. |
| 22:20.13 | Acid`X | deadcat: gratz xD |
| 22:20.14 | ufo | unfo: ok. thx. is there lot of packages broken on testing? |
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| 22:20.36 | dondelelcaro | levander: apt-get source rssh; apt-get build-dep rssh; apt-get install fakeroot build-essential; cd rssh-*; fakeroot debian/rules clean binary; |
| 22:20.37 | deadcat | Acid`X: thanks. that classed pissed me off.. i almost wanted to drop out again. )= |
| 22:20.42 | dondelelcaro | s/levander/zarchne/ |
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| 22:21.30 | unfo | ufo: np :) use debian, its more educational, if you really get frustrated then use ubuntu. i use testing. packages occasionally disappear for a while from the testing Apt Repository but i deal. |
| 22:21.32 | stew | dondelelcaro: out of curiosity, why call debian/rules directly instead of dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 22:21.48 | tarzeau | streuner: it works with ubuntu 2.6.12 kernel |
| 22:22.05 | Acid`X | deadcat: haha, well im going to drop out alsa haha, i recompiled 2.6.14.7 and still not working =( |
| 22:22.19 | unfo | ufo: but i could help more if you tell us more about your linux experience and what you use the computer for. |
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| 22:22.27 | Tau | thanks... its works.. |
| 22:22.41 | Tau | :) |
| 22:22.42 | zarchne | dondelelcaro: yeah, thanks. |
| 22:22.56 | beardy | Tau: Nice :) |
| 22:23.32 | unfo | Aerta: any luck? |
| 22:23.35 | beardy | Tau: Is this the first time you are installing Debian? |
| 22:23.43 | Tau | no |
| 22:23.44 | dondelelcaro | stew: cause there's no point in building a diff.gz, a .dsc and a .changes |
| 22:23.49 | beardy | Tau: Ok. |
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| 22:23.54 | Tau | but first time on P 100 |
| 22:24.03 | stew | dondelelcaro: right |
| 22:24.08 | ufo | unfo: i use mostly on my laptop for daily use, and know quite alot of linux too but used other distros for few yers. |
| 22:24.29 | unfo | dondelelcaro: what's a good way of calling ls(1) so that files never accessed/never used come last? |
| 22:24.50 | unfo | ufo: what programs do you spend most of your time in? |
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| 22:25.32 | beardy | Tau: "/msg dpkg reference" if you are not already familiar with it, seems to be available in polish aswell |
| 22:25.35 | stew | unfo: man ls and search for atime |
| 22:25.46 | unfo | ufo: how important to you are standby and hibernate, and have you had problems with that stuff in the past? |
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| 22:26.07 | Tau | thx |
| 22:26.12 | unfo | stew: someone just pointed me there before. *slaps own forehead* :) |
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| 22:26.30 | kreg_work | and she was like "what?? no! you pee with that!" |
| 22:26.46 | weasel00 | does wake-on-lan features work well with debian? |
| 22:26.46 | ufo | unfo: i used SuSE for my laptop but got debian in servers on my job... but the servers does not include x at all... |
| 22:27.09 | unfo | i just realized something: all my files in $VIMRUNTIME/syntax have the same timestamp of 2006-02-12 10:28 :) |
| 22:27.10 | Seven_Six_Two | I just did an apt-get pinned downgrade to etch, but I haven't yet rebooted. Any bets on whether it will work? |
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| 22:27.32 | ufo | unfo: the hibernate or standby does not really matter |
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| 22:27.50 | DogWater | wow i cant believe that crazy build dep crap worked |
| 22:27.55 | DogWater | thanks whoever suggested that, lol |
| 22:28.01 | devazion | Seven_Six_Two: I't won't ;) |
| 22:28.20 | ufo | unfo: the multimedia its maybe the main use at home with my laptop and some surfing and programming |
| 22:28.44 | Acid`X | deadcat: if i compile alsa as built-in you think it will make difference? |
| 22:29.14 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: why not apt-get qemu and get a preview? (i don't know if that could make stuff worse though) |
| 22:29.15 | deadcat | Acid`X: i dont know. but i doubt it will matter |
| 22:29.19 | quiet | okay... i ran nautilus from a terminal... and if i go to network and to Windows network.. i see the error: "libgnomevfs-CRITICAL **:gnome_vfs_mime_application_supports_uris: assertion `app != NULL' failed" |
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| 22:30.01 | Acid`X | deadcat: i dont know where to look now, ive check almost everything |
| 22:30.10 | quiet | prior to that i also saw... "gnome-vfs-modules-WARNING **: dns-sd: howl init failed: -2147483647" |
| 22:30.11 | unfo | ufo: you'll need to enable non-free if you want to view .wmv video files. |
| 22:30.46 | Seven_Six_Two | a preview of etch? I want to revert. I was using it until my latest install |
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| 22:30.59 | abrotman | there is no preview of etch .. |
| 22:31.03 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: a preview of what will happen if you reboot |
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| 22:31.06 | abrotman | etch is just etch .. it's still in motion |
| 22:31.07 | unfo | abrotman: with qemu |
| 22:31.08 | ufo | unfo: ok.. do you think the other distros could be more suitable for laptop use? |
| 22:31.31 | Seven_Six_Two | unfo: oh I've never used it |
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| 22:31.42 | unfo | ufo: a friend/sysadmin of mine says swsusp "just works" in ubuntu |
| 22:31.43 | chuckyp | ufo, i'm using debiant etch on my laptop |
| 22:31.53 | unfo | ufo: i'm not sure i believe my friend though. |
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| 22:32.35 | unfo | ufo: also, perhaps the swsusp autoconfig works better in ubuntu, but there are still big advantages to debian. |
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| 22:33.07 | manu84jz | hi, soweone can help to find the support for my nvidia go 6600?? |
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| 22:33.21 | sep | !nvidia one-liner |
| 22:33.22 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia one-liner was update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 22:33.25 | deadcat | manu84jz: if nvidia dont work we dont know |
| 22:33.48 | dondelelcaro | unfo: ls -u; if you didn't see it already |
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| 22:33.54 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: this should do the trick: sudo apt-get install qemu && sudo qemu -hda /dev/hda1 |
| 22:33.58 | nn- | manu84jz: have you already experimented with nvidia.(k)o? |
| 22:34.11 | dondelelcaro | unfo: man ls; contains some important reading |
| 22:34.12 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: remember, i provide no warranty against data loss |
| 22:34.23 | unfo | dondelelcaro: ls -u doesnt do the trick |
| 22:34.38 | dondelelcaro | unfo: do what trick? it orders it by atime. |
| 22:34.39 | PerfDave | IIRC the 6600 isn't supported by the nVidia binary driver in Sarge, you'll probably need to get nvidia-kernel-source from etch or sid. |
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| 22:34.40 | unfo | dondelelcaro: maybe they all have identical atimes, mtimes, AND ctimes |
| 22:34.42 | manu84jz | yes, but i can't find them cause that video card is distributed on my notebook by asus that don't release support for linux |
| 22:34.49 | Seven_Six_Two | unfo: I got it installed already |
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| 22:35.10 | Seven_Six_Two | does it have to be run as root? |
| 22:35.16 | PerfDave | manu84jz: Have you tried using module-assistant to install the nVidia drivers for Debian? /msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 22:35.23 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: yes. consider mounting hda read-only inside qemu |
| 22:35.25 | nn- | manu84jz: you can't find *what*? |
| 22:35.26 | jayr168 | what is glib? |
| 22:35.31 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: using kernel params |
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| 22:35.50 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: b/c i don't think it's good to mount the same disk twice. |
| 22:35.52 | pipeline | jayr168: An OO framework for C. Lots of things use it / reqquire it. |
| 22:36.06 | manu83_newbie | nn-: my debian linux doesn't support my video card nvidia go 6600 |
| 22:36.12 | unfo | jayr168: IIRC Gnome apps require it |
| 22:36.13 | Seven_Six_Two | I think I should rtfm first. I've got time |
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| 22:36.29 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: just curious: what did you do with apt again? |
| 22:36.29 | nn- | manu83_newbie: have you already tried loading the nvidia kernel module? |
| 22:36.39 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: rtfm is a good idea here. |
| 22:36.40 | manu83_newbie | how can i do? |
| 22:36.42 | jayr168 | im trying to install it |
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| 22:36.50 | jayr168 | what to do after MAKE? |
| 22:36.52 | PerfDave | manu83_newbie: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 22:36.55 | nn- | manu83_newbie: nvidia distributes a linux driver that works for many common cards |
| 22:37.02 | unfo | jayr168: use apt-get instead |
| 22:37.03 | manu83_newbie | ok.. i'll try |
| 22:37.23 | jayr168 | i cant find GLIB in apt-cache search |
| 22:37.41 | Seven_Six_Two | I put a pin in /etc/apt/preferences to testing and changed my sources.list then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 22:37.45 | macsim | hi, any english guys with tiscali here ? |
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| 22:38.20 | jayr168 | whats the correct name of GLIB in apt-get? |
| 22:38.37 | chuckyp | jayr168, try apt-cache search glib |
| 22:38.49 | jayr168 | when I apt-cache search GLIB -- I find lots of results im not sure which one? |
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| 22:39.05 | loggygreg | jayr168: apt-cache search libglib |
| 22:39.07 | redguy | libglib? |
| 22:39.38 | pavlovsdog | you'll probably find if you want to run some game that nvidia-glx doesn't cut it, you need the nvidia binary |
| 22:39.50 | pavlovsdog | ymmv |
| 22:39.57 | pavlovsdog | but i doubt it |
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| 22:42.52 | unfo-afk | pavlovsdog: depends what game |
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| 22:43.24 | pavlovsdog | that too |
| 22:43.41 | rav | hello. i need some help with a laptop. in the kde control center, in the power control module, it says that i have a partial ACPI installation and i have to rebuild my kernel. how do i do that? |
| 22:44.00 | pavlovsdog | *.id seems to not work |
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| 22:44.06 | nn- | maybe you should get rid of kde |
| 22:44.12 | unfo-afk | rav: are you SURE it's right and that you have to rebuild your kernel? |
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| 22:44.48 | quiet | does Debian have the CIFS VFS client available?? (etch) |
| 22:45.07 | quiet | smbfs is NOT compatible with windows server 2003 domain controller shares. |
| 22:45.14 | rav | unfo-afk: i can't see a battery monitor or anything, and all the tabs on the module say the same thing. |
| 22:45.16 | quiet | http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2003-December/076388.html |
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| 22:45.46 | unfo-afk | rav: i don't know kde but "you have to rebuild your kernel" may be wrong, you may just have to load more modules or something. |
| 22:46.12 | nn- | is battery level monitoring part of acpi? |
| 22:46.20 | unfo-afk | nn-: yes |
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| 22:47.28 | jjazz | rav rebuilding the kernel would imply one of two things: (1) you have a bad kernel binary or (2) you need to recompile with different options. I doubt your kernel binary is corrupted, and since you don't seem to know what options you need to twiddle, I don't see that rebuilding is going to do much for you. Maybe you should google that error and see if you come up with some info to help yourself. |
| 22:47.29 | nn- | maybe i should set that crap up one day |
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| 22:47.51 | unfo-afk | nn-: easiest way is talk to a linux knowledgeable friend |
| 22:47.54 | rav | unfo-afk: there is no acpi module in my lsmod |
| 22:48.00 | Tortel | is there a backport site taht lets someone use the newest wine in sarge? |
| 22:48.08 | beardy | !backports |
| 22:48.08 | dpkg | it has been said that backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 22:48.11 | Tortel | or newer in general |
| 22:48.14 | unfo-afk | rav: i don't use acpi, i'm guessing: modprobe acpi maybe? |
| 22:48.17 | coolpix | gn8 |
| 22:48.40 | unfo-afk | rav: oops i mean sudo modprobe acpi |
| 22:49.06 | nn- | i bet that module is already loaded |
| 22:49.23 | rav | unfo-afk: says: No such device |
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| 22:49.36 | jayr168 | i make install glib 2.8 but pkg-configure report 2.6 |
| 22:49.38 | jayr168 | why? |
| 22:49.50 | azeem | jayr168: you need the -dev library |
| 22:49.56 | unfo-phone | unfo-phone: sudo apt-get install modconf && sudo modconf |
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| 22:50.59 | unfo-phone | oops |
| 22:51.07 | unfo-phone | rav: sudo apt-get install modconf && sudo modconf |
| 22:51.23 | mzilikazi | how to ask dpkg what pkgs are installed from a specific repo only? |
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| 22:51.40 | macsim | I'm unable to use an ethernet modem with pppoeconf, sagem 908 but it works with usb, is there any bug with pppoe ? |
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| 22:52.05 | zarchne | dondelelcaro: well, heck. I applied the patch (to the sarge source), built, installed, and I'm still getting segfaults. Guess I'll try the etch source. |
| 22:52.09 | chealer9 | macsim: yes. see the BTS |
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| 22:52.21 | macsim | chealer9, any solution ? |
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| 22:53.39 | chealer9 | macsim: depends on which bug |
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| 22:53.52 | chealer9 | macsim: those tagged patch have a solution |
| 22:53.59 | macsim | chealer9, may I bother you a bit in private ? |
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| 22:54.53 | chealer9 | macsim: no |
| 22:55.04 | macsim | chealer9, ok thanks anyway |
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| 22:55.54 | macsim | chealer9, I just looking for a solution, I'm not in my country, reason why I'm looking for english here |
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| 22:56.50 | chealer9 | macsim: what? you're looking for english? |
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| 22:57.28 | dydo|work | im currently having troubles starting saslauthd... i found a tutorial for setting up postfix, courier, squirrel, and others on a debian system... pretty nice, easy step by step until now |
| 22:57.38 | dydo|work | tutorial says to do the following |
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| 22:57.41 | macsim | chealer9, I'm in england and I'm not english, I've got some problem with english ISP connection, something who works properly in france and belgium doesn't work in angland |
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| 22:58.00 | dydo|work | > sudo ./saslauthd start |
| 22:58.00 | dydo|work | > ps waux | grep saslauthd |
| 22:58.00 | dydo|work | You should see: |
| 22:58.00 | dydo|work | root 6143 0.0 0.2 5916 1432 ? S 08:53 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -a pam |
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| 22:58.04 | Aghaster | hi, could anybody refer me to a good archive manager that handles .rar archives? |
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| 22:58.16 | macsim | Aghaster, unrar ? |
| 22:58.22 | quiet | Aghaster, how about the client from rarlabs |
| 22:58.23 | quiet | ? |
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| 22:58.27 | dydo|work | opps |
| 22:58.28 | Aghaster | i meant a free one |
| 22:58.29 | dydo|work | sorry :x |
| 22:58.39 | chealer9 | macsim: you're trying to use the same hardware as worked in a different country and it doesn't work in england? |
| 22:58.40 | Aghaster | http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm this one is a trial |
| 22:58.46 | beardy | !unrar-free |
| 22:58.46 | dpkg | it has been said that unrar-free is an unarchiver for .rar files that can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format, which is by far the most used RAR format (ask me about unrar for 3.0). in main unstable |
| 22:58.47 | grendal_prime | this may be totally wack but i reall thing it would be cool to do this....is there a way to use..say asterisk or some other pbx type app to creat that bridge between your web enabled phone ad the internet? |
| 22:58.47 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: how's progress? |
| 22:58.48 | macsim | chealer9, yes |
| 22:58.56 | PerfDave | Aghaster: There is no Free RAR software which handles recent RAR archives. RAR is a nasty propriatery format. |
| 22:59.08 | macsim | chealer9, but I'm unable to know if it's come form my computer or from the line |
| 22:59.12 | unfo | Aerta: ayt? |
| 22:59.14 | KinxofSepluv | ooo a nasty propriatary format |
| 22:59.18 | chealer9 | macsim: are you sure the ISP supports your modem's standards? |
| 22:59.20 | Seven_Six_Two | N.B. - pinned downgrades from unstable to testing worked perfectly. apt-show-versions shows all in etch, and no boot problems |
| 22:59.27 | KinxofSepluv | They make a free version for linux |
| 22:59.31 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: cool! mazel tov. |
| 22:59.32 | PerfDave | grendal_prime: I've heard of people using IP-over-Bluetooth |
| 22:59.39 | Aghaster | uh, and is there enough info out there for someone to write a linux util to support it? |
| 22:59.40 | macsim | chealer9, I can use the modem with usb but not with ethernet |
| 22:59.41 | PerfDave | KinxofSepluv: They don't make a Free version for Linux. |
| 22:59.41 | grendal_prime | really |
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| 22:59.54 | PerfDave | Aghaster: Technically yes, legally no. |
| 23:00.02 | KinxofSepluv | PerfDave: At rarsoft? I'm preaty sure they do |
| 23:00.02 | beardy | !free |
| 23:00.02 | dpkg | free is, like, defined in English with many different meanings of which only one refers to cost. easier in french, or 'free beer' = gratuit 'free speech' = libre, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html, or free (procps) tells you how much memory is used/wasted ("Mem:"), and how much is being necessarily used/could be freed ("-/+ buffers/cache:") |
| 23:00.04 | Seven_Six_Two | qemu failed tho |
| 23:00.10 | Aghaster | uh, it would be illegal to write an app to support it? |
| 23:00.13 | ufo | does the debian have gnome or kde as default? |
| 23:00.24 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: yeah, qemu can be fussy about command-line switches required. |
| 23:00.25 | Aghaster | ufo: it has both |
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| 23:00.29 | Aghaster | by default |
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| 23:00.40 | PerfDave | Aghaster: If it violates Rarsoft's patents, it would be illegal in many jurisdictions. |
| 23:00.48 | ufo | Aghaster: ok... |
| 23:00.49 | grendal_prime | PerfDave, what im looking for is a replacement to the costly data provider delema of web enabled phones.. |
| 23:00.50 | Aghaster | uhm... |
| 23:00.53 | unfo | ufo: linux is all about choice |
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| 23:01.02 | UnNick | c |
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| 23:01.09 | Seven_Six_Two | unfo: I should have read more, but it said no network something something and failed. I can play with it more later |
| 23:01.21 | unfo | ufo: you install whichever one you like, all you have to type is sudo apt-get install kde or sudo apt-get install gnome. |
| 23:01.22 | ufo | unfo: yes i know but were thinking should install only server and then the desktop |
| 23:01.23 | PerfDave | By default, Debian has neither X, KDE or Gnome. It only installs those if you select something during the installation process. |
| 23:01.37 | chealer9 | macsim: the same modem can be used with both Ethernet and USB? |
| 23:01.45 | macsim | chealer9, yes |
| 23:01.52 | nn- | PerfDave: but the default install is still bloated :P |
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| 23:01.56 | unfo | ufo: or tasksel during install, though I never tasksel then. I do it later. |
| 23:01.58 | dydo|work | http://rafb.net/paste/results/VHBkpL54.html |
| 23:02.04 | PerfDave | nn-: How is it bloated? |
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| 23:02.12 | dydo|work | ^^ help please |
| 23:02.28 | Seven_Six_Two | default desktop system has lots of extras. |
| 23:02.32 | unfo | dydo|work: explain |
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| 23:02.38 | grendal_prime | i have a server that is online all day, and a phone that is connect there as well...if the server basically worked as a dialup server, a sort of proxy for the phone. seems plausable. |
| 23:02.42 | unfo | Seven_Six_Two: i always get "warning: could not open /dev/net/tun: no virtual network emulation |
| 23:02.47 | ufo | unfo: does the upgrade to testing with gnome work like it should? |
| 23:02.50 | unfo | " which i never worry about. |
| 23:02.53 | Seven_Six_Two | unfo: that's the one! |
| 23:02.59 | chealer9 | macsim: and both ways already worked with the same computer? |
| 23:03.01 | unfo | ufo: upgrade? |
| 23:03.06 | dydo|work | unfo:: following a tutorial i found for setting up postfix + courier+ squirrel on debian |
| 23:03.12 | macsim | chealer9, yes |
| 23:03.12 | unfo | dydo|work: ok |
| 23:03.21 | pavlovsdog | hey links in x-chat don't open with mozilla what do i have to fix |
| 23:03.23 | ufo | unfo: yes the dist-upgrade to testing |
| 23:03.27 | dydo|work | unfo:: the past from url should explain the rest |
| 23:03.28 | pavlovsdog | used to work |
| 23:03.29 | PerfDave | grendal_prime: Like I say, I've heard of people browsing the Internet from web-enabled phones using IP over Bluetooth. |
| 23:03.30 | dydo|work | http://rafb.net/paste/results/VHBkpL54.html |
| 23:03.45 | PerfDave | dydo|work: Are you running Ubuntu? |
| 23:03.50 | dydo|work | no |
| 23:03.51 | weasel00 | grendal_prime : something to keep inthe back of your mind with this is there was a script that ran through websites and made them "phone-friendly" |
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| 23:04.06 | pavlovsdog | and even if you are don't admit it, how could you stand the shame? |
| 23:04.08 | unfo | dydo|work: i'm in an xterm, i don't want to have to start a web browser, plus i'm not good w/ postfix :/ |
| 23:04.20 | priscila | PerfDave: you may configure xchat to open it :P |
| 23:04.21 | unfo | ufo: are you running debian already? |
| 23:04.25 | nvz | !info html2wml |
| 23:04.28 | dpkg | html2wml: (converts HTML pages to WML (WAP) or i-mode pages), section web, is optional. Version: 0.4.10b5-1.2 (sid), Packaged size: 108 kB, Installed size: 420 kB |
| 23:04.33 | ufo | not yet downloading the images |
| 23:04.40 | PerfDave | priscila: Uhm, I don't use xchat. |
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| 23:04.57 | pavlovsdog | it's not an xchat thing imo, it used to function properly |
| 23:05.00 | priscila | PerfDave: sorry, wrong people |
| 23:05.00 | unfo | ufo: all you really need is netinstall, especially for testing. maybe businesscard size even will be ok. |
| 23:05.04 | nn- | PerfDave: many useless packages like bc are selected by default |
| 23:05.05 | opnsrc | How do I view which ethernet cards are in use (IE: eth0 or eth1) |
| 23:05.08 | macsim | chealer9, last week I was in belguim to see my brother, the modem works at his home, the sunday I was in france at my mother's home, the modem works too, my brother and my mother use debian, so I really really upset with this problem |
| 23:05.09 | opnsrc | I forgot |
| 23:05.09 | weasel00 | nvz : thanks.. couldnt recall it for the life of me |
| 23:05.11 | chealer9 | macsim: strange, but I doubt the bug would be in PPPoE |
| 23:05.20 | pavlovsdog | opnsrc: ifconfig -a maybe |
| 23:05.24 | priscila | pavlovsdog: you may configure xchat to open it :P |
| 23:05.25 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 23:05.27 | dydo|work | unfo:: im doing 'sudo ./saslauthd start' then 'ps waux | grep saslauthd' and it doesnt show it running |
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| 23:05.37 | beardy | PerfDave: useless? You are not the only person running Debian. |
| 23:05.42 | beardy | gah.. |
| 23:05.42 | pavlovsdog | priscila: i don't think it's an xchat problem, it used to function properly |
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| 23:05.53 | enix | DCC SEND 30349092348053485 |
| 23:05.55 | chealer9 | macsim: anyway, you should describe the problem, otherwise nobody can help |
| 23:05.55 | unfo | dydo|work: what does the 1st command print to screen? |
| 23:05.56 | beardy | nn-: useless? You are not the only person running Debian. |
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| 23:06.04 | macsim | chealer9, it's the reason why I want to know is there is any british here how use tiscali with a sagem |
| 23:06.10 | macsim | 908 |
| 23:06.12 | dydo|work | unfo:: just takes me back to a prompt |
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| 23:06.22 | unfo | dydo|work: that usually means success... |
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| 23:06.30 | PerfDave | nn-: That's part of the Linux Standard Base. |
| 23:06.30 | nvz | is typing dcc send in the channel actually suppose to do something? |
| 23:06.31 | nn- | beardy: have you ever been using bc? |
| 23:06.33 | grendal_prime | weasel00, ya thats not really a big concern though...i mean the majority of what i want to do is acess known locations on my local servers.. |
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| 23:06.45 | macsim | chealer9, if someone tell me, tiscali refuse pppoe in uk, I'm feel better ;) |
| 23:06.50 | opnsrc | uhm... I don't seem to have ifconfig |
| 23:06.52 | stoft | nvz: read the status |
| 23:06.53 | opnsrc | I thought I did |
| 23:06.54 | dydo|work | unfo:: usually.. but, the tutorial also says that the 'ps waux' would show it in there... which does not |
| 23:07.03 | priscila | pavlovsdog: use irssi + gnome-terminal instead, this will solve your problem |
| 23:07.03 | opnsrc | n/m |
| 23:07.04 | unfo | dydo|work: not sure, a bit busy right now |
| 23:07.10 | grendal_prime | it would be nice if they could access the data exactly the same way that the other customers do as well |
| 23:07.13 | dydo|work | unfo:: thanks anyways |
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| 23:07.23 | chealer9 | macsim: hum, didn't you say it worked with USB? |
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| 23:07.35 | unfo | dydo|work: sorry |
| 23:07.43 | nvz | stoft: I did, I just dont see how the hell thats suppose to do anything :P |
| 23:07.50 | macsim | chealer9, yes, it's the reason why I'm mad ;) it works with usb not with ethernet |
| 23:07.50 | beardy | nn-: Yes. It's handy to use as a calculator, sometimes. |
| 23:07.52 | loggygreg | opnsrc: /sbin.ifconfig -a |
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| 23:07.57 | nvz | stoft: you can say whatever the hell you want in here, its not going to do anything to me |
| 23:08.01 | eeyore- | nvz: supposed to be some sort of DoS against your *router* |
| 23:08.05 | opnsrc | I had to be root to use it |
| 23:08.07 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 23:08.10 | nvz | eeyore-: yeah whatever :P |
| 23:08.30 | pavlovsdog | priscila: yes i have irssi thanks... buhbuy\ |
| 23:08.31 | unfo | opnsrc: /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 23:08.48 | macsim | macsim, I try with a ethenet cable with my switch, and a crossed one but it doesn't work, the crossed one is the same I use in belguim with my brother computer |
| 23:08.49 | unfo | opnsrc: or maybe you need another tool. try netstat -a maybe, or maybe look in apt |
| 23:08.49 | pavlovsdog | so why won't mozilla function, what binding is missing |
| 23:08.56 | eeyore- | nvz: think about it ... it's plausible for some routers to try to parse IRC protocol stream to handle CTCP connections |
| 23:09.01 | pavlovsdog | must i lart the maintainer? |
| 23:09.02 | eeyore- | nvz: and if the firmware is buggy ... |
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| 23:09.13 | jjazz | dydo|work: check the error logs for errors. Check the man page for a verbose mode. |
| 23:09.24 | PerfDave | eeyore-: Yet more reasons why NAT is evil! ;) |
| 23:09.24 | eeyore- | nvz: it's just a variation of the old ~~~~~~ATH thing |
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| 23:09.50 | beardy | !popcon |
| 23:09.50 | dpkg | popcon is probably the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 23:09.51 | nvz | eeyore-: heh, I suppose. it definatly looks like shit I havent seen in a long time |
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| 23:09.54 | opnsrc | thanks unfo / unfo|busy and loggygreg |
| 23:10.01 | Condector | hello everybody |
| 23:10.09 | unfo|busy | hi |
| 23:10.13 | Condector | o man, i have a big problem with reiserfs and debian unstable |
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| 23:10.32 | unfo|busy | opnsrc: np i guess :) |
| 23:10.39 | Condector | my partitions with root powrt have no POWER to change permissions |
| 23:10.42 | unfo|busy | unfo|busy: did i actually help? :) |
| 23:10.47 | Condector | or remove files |
| 23:10.49 | opnsrc | I just needed to be root |
| 23:10.56 | Condector | okay, few files |
| 23:11.01 | beardy | nn-: ^^^ consider taking part in the popularity contest, so you can make a difference on what is installed by default, and what should be on which cd |
| 23:11.12 | unfo|busy | s/unfo|busy/opnsrc |
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| 23:12.17 | phycho | hey gguys |
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| 23:12.27 | phycho | has anyone setup ipac-ng and got it to work on debian? |
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| 23:12.33 | phycho | i keep getting calloc failed |
| 23:12.38 | phycho | and my memory is fine.. |
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| 23:13.38 | nickname00 | phycho, maybe a bad block in swap file |
| 23:14.06 | phycho | fn'nickname00 - its definetely not a memory issue |
| 23:14.13 | phycho | it appears to be a bug that lots of people have had |
| 23:14.16 | phycho | and nobody has been able to fix |
| 23:14.22 | phycho | its happined to me on multiple debian systems |
| 23:14.24 | phycho | and works fine on slack |
| 23:14.43 | phycho | i really need that piece of software working, ive tried all the different versions of it |
| 23:14.45 | phycho | with same results |
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| 23:14.55 | unfo | ufo: just thought of this: you may want to leaf thru the Debian Installation Manual or some tutorial while u wait. |
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| 23:16.34 | eeyore- | phycho: "calloc failed" != faulty memory :-) probably just a bug in the program |
| 23:16.39 | phogg | phycho: you might look to see if the Debian version has any custom patches applied. |
| 23:17.11 | phycho | im about to try the debian version of iptables |
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| 23:17.19 | phycho | ive tried both the debian and non-debian versions of ipac-ng |
| 23:17.21 | phycho | with same issues on both. |
| 23:17.24 | eeyore- | phycho: calloc( count, size ) = allocate size*count bytes, so if one parameter is really absurd, well, crash :-) |
| 23:17.33 | petemc | phycho: works fine for me |
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| 23:18.45 | unfo | phycho: if it's a bug that lots of people have had and nobody's fixed, why not file a bug report? |
| 23:18.49 | weasel00 | grendal_prime : would be interested in talking with you further regarding the phone service.. friend and i were talking about a similar thing yesterday |
| 23:18.50 | phycho | ipac-ng does? |
| 23:18.54 | petemc | yup |
| 23:18.57 | phycho | unfo - there already is a bug report |
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| 23:19.08 | unfo | phycho: what bug num |
| 23:19.10 | phycho | petemc - what version and what version of debian |
| 23:19.17 | phycho | unfo - i got no idea, found it on google.. ill search |
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| 23:19.18 | petemc | phycho: sarge |
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| 23:19.34 | phycho | im trying it on testing |
| 23:19.37 | phycho | no luck |
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| 23:20.11 | petemc | phycho: im using kernel 2.4 |
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| 23:20.26 | phycho | petemc - so am i |
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| 23:20.32 | phycho | vanilla kernel (non-debian) |
| 23:20.37 | petemc | me too |
| 23:20.37 | phycho | 2.4.32 |
| 23:20.40 | eeyore- | phycho: you have the source ... find out why calloc call failed. fix it. can't be too hard. |
| 23:20.51 | unfo | phycho: strace? ltrace? ddd? |
| 23:20.52 | phycho | eeyore - it is when you dont know shit about programming. |
| 23:20.55 | unfo | phycho: oh |
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| 23:21.18 | phycho | brb.. im going to try the debian version of iptables |
| 23:21.24 | phycho | to see if it makes any difference |
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| 23:21.40 | eeyore- | phycho: first thing is to locate the calloc call (there ought to be file/line number in the diagnostic, right?) and printf() the parameter values :-) nothing beats old-skool printf debugging |
| 23:21.42 | dareth | firehol is an interesting way to run iptables for beginners. |
| 23:22.05 | phycho | theres no file line/number |
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| 23:22.11 | phycho | just says calloc failed haha |
| 23:22.24 | phycho | might need to compile it from src with debug enabled |
| 23:22.34 | eeyore- | phycho: you might be able to get "close enough" by looking at what else it printed just before that message |
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| 23:23.00 | unfo | dont you hate how so much stuff in apt is built without symbols? |
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| 23:23.25 | eeyore- | unfo: who needs symbol in regular use? |
| 23:23.46 | nn- | what kind of symbols are you talking about? |
| 23:24.03 | unfo | unfo: nobody, until it comes time to get a backtrace for a bug report or something |
| 23:24.13 | phogg | eeyore-: would be nice if packages in sid had symbols |
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| 23:24.32 | phycho | heh.. thats really weird |
| 23:24.33 | unfo | RMS is a big fan of building everything with symbols. he's learned that it's worth the extra space they take up. |
| 23:24.45 | unfo | nn-: C function names etc. |
| 23:24.47 | eeyore- | phogg: i disagree :-) if i wanted symbols i could easily rebuild the particular package in question. that's kind of like lugging around toilet with you everywhere you go ... |
| 23:25.05 | unfo | eeyore-: not everybody knows how to rebuild with 'em |
| 23:25.15 | phycho | 2secs |
| 23:25.16 | nn- | unfo: I don't get what's the point.. |
| 23:25.18 | eeyore- | unfo: the people that can't rebuild them probably can't debug anyway :-) |
| 23:25.19 | phogg | eeyore-: I can see that, but I can still wish that they were already there |
| 23:25.30 | unfo | nn-: they are included in the executable files of some apps to help debugging |
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| 23:26.27 | unfo | eeyore-: a small light folding toilet :) |
| 23:26.37 | phogg | nn-: they let you know not just that your program crashed but where it was and what it was doing when it crashed. |
| 23:27.11 | eeyore- | unfo: i have that too, btw :-) came in handy when we go out in the desert. PETT. |
| 23:27.18 | eeyore- | unfo: along with a supply of WAG bags |
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| 23:27.34 | eeyore- | *ahem* ... ok, enough toilet discussion :-) |
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| 23:28.05 | warjest | i'm running bind 9.3.2-2 and after bind has been running about 4 or 5 hours it quits responding. the processes are alive but /etc/init.d/bind9 restart fails to restart them and rndc fails to connect as well but i can see the process holding the ports open |
| 23:28.06 | unfo | i guess toilet-related discussion belongs in #debian-overflow? |
| 23:28.35 | phycho | nope.. my idea didnt work |
| 23:28.35 | phycho | same error |
| 23:28.35 | phycho | bah |
| 23:28.35 | phycho | pile of crap |
| 23:28.39 | phycho | ;/ |
| 23:28.50 | phogg | !slap unfo |
| 23:28.50 | unfo | phycho: submit@bugs.debian.org |
| 23:29.02 | eeyore- | the people who go out to the desert should really get portable toilets ... craps left in the desert don't decompose much |
| 23:29.09 | phycho | brb.. gonna remove it all again ;/ |
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| 23:31.32 | eeyore- | hmm. new homeowner renovates a bathroom, found 3.5 karat diamond ring hidden by the previous homeowner (who did such a good job they didn't remember where it was hidden :-p). returned it to the previous homeowner (btw, this was 23 years later), and got the screen door repaired. |
| 23:31.40 | eeyore- | spiffy. but, only a screen door? :-p |
| 23:31.44 | unfo | eeyore-: wow |
| 23:32.00 | Stevie | Wow. |
| 23:32.06 | Stevie | There's honesty. |
| 23:32.12 | eeyore- | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DIAMOND_RING_FOUND?SITE=MTBIL&SECTION=STRANGE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT |
| 23:32.23 | Stevie | hey, anybody know which source file handles the 'root=' option in the kernel? |
| 23:32.35 | unfo | Stevie: did you grep? |
| 23:32.44 | eeyore- | Stevie: last i looked it was in the kernel initialization |
| 23:32.56 | eeyore- | Stevie: possibly in the arch-specific subdirectories |
| 23:33.00 | unfo | Stevie: try grepping for noatime, it might me around there if i'm guessing right |
| 23:33.10 | unfo | s/me/be |
| 23:33.49 | Stevie | unfo: Think about this for a second. Grepping the kernel for 'root'. |
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| 23:34.17 | unfo | unfo: good point |
| 23:34.27 | unfo | oops |
| 23:34.32 | Stevie | hehe |
| 23:34.32 | unfo | Stevie: good point |
| 23:34.35 | Stevie | ;) |
| 23:34.43 | Stevie | weird |
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| 23:34.52 | Stevie | I found it, btw, -- init/do_mounts.c |
| 23:34.54 | unfo | :) but, you can grep for other words that are likely to be found nearby. |
| 23:34.57 | Stevie | but there's a 'rootdelay' option |
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| 23:35.10 | Stevie | i grepped for the message that the kernel bitches with if it can't mount the root device |
| 23:35.20 | eeyore- | steve: boot/tools/build.c |
| 23:35.24 | darkcmd | is there any way I can make my clock for my computer constantly displays the same time? |
| 23:35.57 | unfo | Stevie: :) i see that message too often |
| 23:35.57 | drusscol | I have a failing hard drive I'm trying to copy to another computer. Is there a way to get rsync not to sit there trying to read a file where there's obviously a read error and just move onto the next one? |
| 23:35.57 | eeyore- | Stevie: possibly more |
| 23:35.57 | Stevie | Hey, this is neat. DId you know the 'rootfstype' option can take a list of fs types to check for? |
| 23:35.58 | eeyore- | Stevie: why do you want to find it? |
| 23:36.06 | unfo | drusscol: do you have backups? |
| 23:36.06 | bushito | i cannot acces to my dvd it says acces denied only root can acces it, and i dont wanna be root to acces a dvd already tried to change permission and the ownage of he mounted folder, what else can i do, help. |
| 23:36.11 | Stevie | eeyore-: Wanna see the method it uses to parse the root=maj:min syntax |
| 23:36.16 | eeyore- | drusscol: don't use rsync. use dd_rescue and make an image |
| 23:36.28 | drusscol | unfo: moderately recent ones |
| 23:36.34 | unfo | drusscol: oh :( |
| 23:37.04 | drusscol | eeyore-: can that work 1) if it's ntfs 2) if there are read errors 3) over the network? |
| 23:37.39 | pikoz | can someone help or point me to the right way to get my network to work. Im trying to get routing to work to all my other computer on the network. |
| 23:38.04 | eeyore- | drusscol: yes, to all of them |
| 23:38.05 | Stevie | pikoz: It sounds like you already made an attempt and it's not doing what you'd like it to do. Is that correct? |
| 23:38.27 | pikoz | Yes... or something... |
| 23:38.37 | eeyore- | drusscol: i do that from time to time. dd_rescue doesn't care. it'll just make an image. you put the image on nfs-mounted directory somewhere (this means you should have a livecd handy, knoppix of gentoo) |
| 23:38.46 | loggygreg | bushito: use uid=<your user> in mount option (man mount ; Mount options for udf) |
| 23:38.52 | Rawplayer | does anyone in here know how the mailinglists from debian work? |
| 23:38.55 | unfo | drusscol: also make sure BIOS bootup S.M.A.R.T. or smartd(8) (smartmon?) et al for next time |
| 23:38.55 | Stevie | pikoz: You should start by explaining what you've tried to do so far |
| 23:38.59 | eeyore- | drusscol: then once you have the image, place the image on to a new partition that's same size or larger, and *then* let windows try to fsck it :-) |
| 23:39.07 | eeyore- | drusscol: sit back, and cross fingers |
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| 23:39.10 | Rawplayer | i'am unsubscribed for some reason |
| 23:39.15 | Rawplayer | from a lot of lists |
| 23:39.18 | Rawplayer | but i dont know why |
| 23:39.19 | bushito | loggygreg: okey ill try |
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| 23:40.10 | drusscol | eeyore-: yeah, nfs, not so much. ridiculously restrictive firewalls in place. Can it be done over ssh? (i.e., direct it to standard output, ssh server2 cat > imagefile) |
| 23:40.22 | Stevie | nfs or ntfs? |
| 23:40.26 | petemc | drusscol: yes, or you could use netcat |
| 23:40.40 | eeyore- | drusscol: no. go get a usb drive or something to put the image. |
| 23:40.44 | litui | has any fix been figured out for gnome-settings-daemon dying horribly in etch? |
| 23:40.44 | petemc | eh? |
| 23:40.46 | eeyore- | Stevie: both |
| 23:40.48 | petemc | eeyore-: sur eit can |
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| 23:40.56 | Stevie | ntfs-over-nfs? |
| 23:41.01 | eeyore- | Stevie: crashed image is ntfs, transport is nfs ;-) |
| 23:41.04 | Stevie | ah |
| 23:41.14 | Stevie | you could always use scp |
| 23:41.20 | eeyore- | petemc: well, ok. you can > stdout and pipe that but geez :-) |
| 23:41.27 | Stevie | no? |
| 23:41.37 | eeyore- | petemc: you want to make ssh transport this? that's a lot of gigabytes and cpu cycles to encrypt/decrypt |
| 23:41.39 | pikoz | Stevie: well... I been readning the HOW-TO on Creating your network interfaces... Trying to follow that... But much to read and the little i trying dont work... |
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| 23:41.49 | bushito | loggygreg: still the same problem |
| 23:42.02 | Stevie | eeyore-: SSH v1, while not as secure, is a lot less cpu-intensive |
| 23:42.06 | drusscol | I kind of have to do it on the fly because the HD space to store the image is not on my crashed laptop but on my linux server |
| 23:42.09 | petemc | eeyore-: well, cpu cycles are cheap |
| 23:42.10 | eeyore- | drusscol: if your time is valuable, use a portable usb drive to hold the temporary data :-) |
| 23:42.20 | loggygreg | bushito: what command have you used to mount it ? |
| 23:42.48 | bushito | loggygreg: mount /dev/hdc |
| 23:42.50 | pikoz | Stevie i dont even thing that my other network card is Running... |
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| 23:43.26 | drusscol | what do I have to do to get my server to accept input from netcat on port 22? |
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| 23:43.41 | bushito | loggygreg: oops sorry i know what you mean know =O |
| 23:43.58 | loggygreg | bushito: use mount /dev/hdc -o uid=1000 /mnt/media for example |
| 23:44.03 | petemc | drusscol: turn off ssh, check netcats docs |
| 23:44.26 | bushito | loggygreg: yeah i was confused and putted it in options inside fstab xD |
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| 23:44.36 | petemc | drusscol: or, dd_rescue if=/dev/hda | ssh user@remote 'dd of=hda.img' |
| 23:44.51 | loggygreg | bushito: yes you can |
| 23:44.58 | raboof_ | i'd like to play neverball, but it seems slow because I don't have DRI. |
| 23:45.16 | bushito | loggygreg: well i added it to optioins but noithng happened stil lsame prob acces denied |
| 23:45.21 | raboof_ | anyone know where I can find more info about what dri is, whether my hardware supports it and how to enable it? |
| 23:45.36 | lawnchair | im using autofs and it seems something is trying to mount /home/foobar from my fileserver that i use for /home , but no such directory exists, does anyone have a good idea as to how to figure out which process is trying to use that directory |
| 23:45.41 | raboof_ | 'dga' works (with mplayer), is that related? |
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| 23:45.51 | loggygreg | bushito: i don't know then |
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| 23:47.14 | bushito | loggygreg: thx for the try |
| 23:47.21 | unfo | lawnchair: strace?? |
| 23:47.29 | lawnchair | hmm |
| 23:47.37 | unfo | lawnchair: or check /etc/auto.* |
| 23:47.43 | lawnchair | heh ive checked all of /etc |
| 23:47.45 | lawnchair | strace for waht |
| 23:47.52 | unfo | lawnchair: dunno |
| 23:47.54 | lawnchair | heh |
| 23:47.55 | lawnchair | nice |
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| 23:48.11 | unfo | strace -p maybe |
| 23:48.23 | unfo | catch autod(8) |
| 23:48.28 | unfo | (sp?) |
| 23:48.43 | lawnchair | i guess i could strace autofs |
| 23:48.45 | Stevie | strace rules |
| 23:48.46 | lawnchair | mabye that would pick it up |
| 23:48.57 | Stevie | I have used it to diagnose so many weird-assed errors |
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| 23:49.22 | unfo | and ltrace, dont forget |
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| 23:49.30 | unfo | :) |
| 23:49.47 | loggygreg | bushito: personnaly that works for any user without any option |
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| 23:49.58 | drusscol | there isn't any way to fsck an ntfs volume from linux, is there? |
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| 23:50.11 | Dark_Lord | Hi there, is there a way one can recognize if an ICQ user is in invisible mode from being really offline? |
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| 23:50.16 | unfo | did u check in ntfstools? |
| 23:50.19 | bushito | loggygreg: but still when i try to acces it says acces denied to /mnt/cdrom1 |
| 23:50.24 | lawnchair | sure |
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| 23:50.27 | thingfish | just a quick couple OT comments: 1) Government sucks; 2) Medicare Sucks; 3) Humana sucks. |
| 23:50.28 | bushito | loggygreg: .... |
| 23:50.32 | unfo | Dark_Lord: are you sure you're in the right channel? |
| 23:50.41 | Dark_Lord | Yup |
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| 23:51.15 | Dark_Lord | I dunno some other channel they could tell me in there |
| 23:51.21 | unfo | Dark_Lord: also, would you be pissed if i asked, why do you want to check? |
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| 23:51.40 | Dark_Lord | Some guy told me so and I dont believe him |
| 23:51.42 | loggygreg | bushito: strange, i don't know |
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| 23:52.13 | eeyore- | thingfish: had to go get triple bypass recently? |
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| 23:52.46 | thingfish | eeyore-: <grumble> |
| 23:53.15 | thingfish | eeyore-: I don't even want to know my cholesterol. |
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| 23:53.25 | wig | quux please don't spam here |
| 23:53.25 | wig | wig what |
| 23:53.26 | thingfish | but no, not yet. |
| 23:53.30 | unfo | Dark_Lord: no, why do you want to tell if they're invis? if theyre invis, they usually dont want ppl to know if theyre online or not. |
| 23:53.34 | wig | http://www.drug-lords.com/index/signup/5 |
| 23:53.42 | PerfDave | Dark_Lord: What ICQ client are you using? |
| 23:54.06 | thingfish | all I know is, if it weren't for drugs and booze, I'd be in poor shape indeed. |
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| 23:54.25 | raboof_ | XF86Config-4 has a "Load 'dri'", and I don't see errors in /var/log/Xfree86.0.log, but when I start neverball i do get a message saying the 'XFree86-DRI' extension is missing |
| 23:54.25 | pipeline | drusscol: Actually, there used to be. I don't know if the old fsck.ntfs code still works, though... |
| 23:54.31 | raboof_ | do I need to install that also somehow? |
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| 23:55.05 | unfo | pipeline: that must be scary, running an fsck.* you don't trust :) |
| 23:55.25 | unfo | drusscol: consider BartPE and Windows Recovery Console too |
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| 23:55.55 | Aghaster | does anybody know where is the "favorites" menu in gnome? |
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| 23:56.25 | thingfish | Aghaster: if you mean nautilus, it's Bookmarks. |
| 23:56.32 | kuhwallskee | where can I get the sid network-isntaller? |
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| 23:56.52 | Aghaster | because i just install crossover office and it says it installed its menu integration there |
| 23:57.10 | Aghaster | but its not there :( |
| 23:57.12 | thingfish | Aghaster: haha and you believed it. |
| 23:57.16 | unfo | kuhwallskee: google for it |
| 23:57.29 | drusscol | unfo: in the long term, I'll probably use recovery console. in the short term, I would have liked to be able to access files from the ntfs image in between now and when the bane of my existence IBM sends me a new Deathstar. maybe I'll be able to mount it despite the damage? |
| 23:57.31 | unfo | kuhwallskee: try: debian netinstall torrent |
| 23:57.36 | Aghaster | thingfish: i shouldn't have believed it first? |
| 23:57.44 | unfo | drusscol: mount readonly? |
| 23:57.47 | Aghaster | and if it was true, i wouldn't be asking here |
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| 23:58.05 | ftp3 | apt is only trying ftp.debian.org on my machine.. how do I change that to ftp.us.debian.org? |
| 23:58.17 | surrounder | ftp3: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:58.19 | thingfish | Aghaster: well, I'm just saying that it doesn't surprise me that a 3-rd party app doesn't exactly do what it's supposed to do. |
| 23:58.21 | unfo | ftp3: su -c 'vim /etc/apt/sources.list' |
| 23:58.22 | ftp3 | thank you |
| 23:58.36 | Aghaster | ... |
| 23:58.53 | thingfish | ftp3: there's also apt-setup, if you prefer. |
| 23:58.55 | thingfish | many choices. |
| 23:58.57 | unfo | Aghaster: consider getting openoffice ... sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-writer |
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| 23:59.03 | azeem | /w 22 |
| 23:59.11 | azeem | bah |
| 23:59.11 | dumbazzz | does anybody have sendmail running on their debian machine? |
| 23:59.13 | thingfish | haha |
| 23:59.20 | Aghaster | yeah i know, i already installed it |
| 23:59.23 | thingfish | azeem made a boo-boo |
| 23:59.29 | Aghaster | but i still have some homework in .doc format |
| 23:59.33 | raboof_ | would moving from XFree86 to x.org help for enabling DRI? |
| 23:59.43 | Aghaster | and i don't trust OO to really support this format |
