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| 00:01.24 | jugglinx | what kind of file is a .vxo? |
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| 00:01.29 | slinn | any suggestions to what i should use to create/maintain man files in console? |
| 00:02.58 | Estes | Anyone knows what i could do for my mouse that sometimes "jumps" to some corner of the screen ? |
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| 00:03.00 | weasel_00 | Supaplex : kinda nice huh |
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| 00:03.45 | Virtual | is there any way to save the settings from alsamixergui, everytime I restart my computer the settings are gone and the computer is mute |
| 00:04.18 | nkuttler | Estes: how often does it happen? |
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| 00:04.37 | Estes | from times to times, maybe every five minutes |
| 00:04.46 | dondelelcaro | Virtual: that's what /etc/init.d/alsa does; see /etc/default/alsa |
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| 00:05.21 | nkuttler | Estes: sounds like the mouse is the problem. did you try a different one? |
| 00:05.36 | streuner | Virtual: or just use 'aumix' and 'S' to save the preferences |
| 00:05.36 | Estes | no, but i know there's a solution for it |
| 00:05.46 | Estes | just i can't remember why |
| 00:05.49 | mixel | synaptic keeps trying to access server directories which are too deep, how can i force it to only look for the files in http://neutronic.mine.nu/unstable/ ? |
| 00:05.53 | nkuttler | Estes: it could be the mouse protocol |
| 00:05.57 | Estes | it's a setting in the X configuration |
| 00:05.59 | Estes | no |
| 00:06.03 | Estes | the proto is ok |
| 00:06.10 | Estes | it works fine otherwise |
| 00:06.31 | mixel | it keeps trying /unstable/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz |
| 00:06.43 | mixel | i just want to use /unstable/Packages.gz |
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| 00:07.09 | illsci_ | ahh no luck |
| 00:07.18 | illsci_ | still got the same error with an initrd image |
| 00:07.25 | mixel | this is on synaptic 0.56 debian/stable |
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| 00:08.54 | nkuttler | mixel: what are you trying to install? the url doesn't look like it will work with sarge |
| 00:09.07 | mixel | i want to install the codeblocks ide |
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| 00:10.05 | hawking | if I already have grub installed before I install debian.. does debian recognize this or overwrite it? |
| 00:10.22 | nkuttler | mixel: man sources.list. try "deb url/unstable/ ./". and /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 00:11.41 | mrverbose | is it true, that limits from /etc/security/limits do not apply to root? |
| 00:12.00 | mixel | "./" worked |
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| 00:13.25 | mixel | i'm going to have to update many other packages though |
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| 00:14.32 | raronson | quick question: what's the differnence between an ethernet bridge and a router? |
| 00:14.54 | mrverbose | raronson: the protocol (level) |
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| 00:15.44 | mrverbose | raronson: a bridge is basically something like a software-switch |
| 00:15.49 | raronson | mrverbose: so it's not simply a matter of where the device is placed? i.e. a device that connects internal networks, or a device that connects networks to the internet? |
| 00:15.51 | mixel | raronson: a bridge is ip-transparent, a router has an ip address for each network it ajoins |
| 00:16.07 | Supaplex | a bridge is nearly identical to a switch, except a bridge can be selective on what protocols are repeated to other interfaces (eg, ip, ipx, apple talk), whereas a router decides what interface needs the traffic |
| 00:16.28 | Supaplex | based on destination etc |
| 00:16.34 | mixel | technically speaking, a bridge is anything defined as a "bridge" according to 802.something |
| 00:16.49 | gnufan | You guys make it all so clear ;) |
| 00:16.53 | mixel | or some IEEE standard |
| 00:17.09 | raronson | hmm, just a little confusing for me since I've never worked with a large network--just my 5-6 machines at home |
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| 00:18.24 | raronson | as I understood it previous to the Linux Wireless Howto, a router connected networks to the Internet, and a bridge connected internal networks... guess that's not correct, since a router can do both |
| 00:18.39 | gnufan | raronson: a router joins IP networks, a bridge joins two ethernet networks. Bridges typically allow all protocols (things other than IP) routers usually route only IP (although there are routers that handle more than IP). |
| 00:19.11 | raronson | gnufan: I'm starting to "get it" |
| 00:19.15 | danieldg | I'm getting BADSIG 010908312D230C5F errors with aptitude from ftp.us.debian.org - is this a known problem? and yes, I installed the 2006 key 3 months ago |
| 00:19.19 | mixel | a bridge should be transparent, like a piece of cable |
| 00:19.25 | raronson | ahh |
| 00:19.27 | gnufan | raronson: A router connect IP networks, if you had two internal IP networks they wouldn't talk without a router, even if they were on the same physical ethernet |
| 00:19.43 | dondelelcaro | danieldg: that means that your mirror has a bad signature on it; don't use those packages until the signature gets fixed. |
| 00:19.48 | dondelelcaro | danieldg: or pick a different mirror |
| 00:19.55 | mixel | a router is generally a lot cleverer than a piece of wire |
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| 00:20.18 | raronson | yeah, packet filtering and the like... |
| 00:20.27 | gnufan | mixel: bridges are pretty complex too. |
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| 00:20.43 | danieldg | dondelelcaro: ok, I thought ftp.us.debian.org was a round-robin though; I'm getting this same error on 2 different systems |
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| 00:20.59 | raronson | so are bridges even needed any more? or is there a time when bridges are preferred to routers? |
| 00:21.12 | dondelelcaro | danieldg: right, it's possible that Release.gpg got screwed up in the last pulse... I don't know the details of that yet. |
| 00:21.20 | gnufan | raronson: ethernet bridges learn what MAC addresses are on either side, so they can suppress traffic, but in a world of cheap switches bridges are dying. |
| 00:21.29 | mixel | gnufan: i meant as viewed by the outside world. a bridge looks like no more than a wire. |
| 00:21.34 | disposable | is there a debian(easy) way of adding graphics to my grub menu? (or do i have to go the generic googled way) |
| 00:21.46 | mixel | gnufan: the internal workings are complicated, naturally |
| 00:21.56 | dondelelcaro | danieldg: it looks like the pulse was late, and some of the mirrors have screwed up the signature; just switch mirrors, or wait until tomorrow and it'll fix itself |
| 00:22.14 | gnufan | mixel: Ah there is the magic -- presenting a simple interface whilst doing something complex. |
| 00:22.15 | raronson | gnufan: okay, I see, so basically switches have taken over the older role of ethernet bridges? |
| 00:22.30 | slinn | any suggestions to what i should use to create/maintain man files in console? |
| 00:22.30 | mixel | gnufan: yes, and without any hint of OO :) |
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| 00:22.51 | dondelelcaro | slinn: an editor, like vi or emacs is pretty much all you need. |
| 00:22.57 | dondelelcaro | slinn: see branden's talk on WTFM |
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| 00:23.29 | mrec | hmm does anyone know why that stupid MAKEDEV script works in every directory but not in /dev ? |
| 00:23.31 | gnufan | raronson: more or less -- what switches do is a pretty movable feast these days. Bridges were more common, and more obvious when you had two long pieces of ethernet that you needed to join, and the traffic was too much just to add a repeater |
| 00:23.49 | slinn | dondelelcaro: what is wtfm? |
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| 00:24.01 | dondelelcaro | slinn: write the fucking manual |
| 00:24.14 | slinn | dondelelcaro: ahh, okay, thank you |
| 00:24.32 | dondelelcaro | (or as he terms it, write the, erm, fine manual.) |
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| 00:24.42 | raronson | gnufan: so today when people speak of ethernet bridging, they're just speaking in generic terms of a process rather than specific hardware? |
| 00:25.11 | karsten | mrec: Likely you're using udev or devfs. |
| 00:25.17 | gnufan | raronson: we have a bridge at work -- it sits between the router and the internet ethernet, and does traffic shaping. We have another virtual bridge that connects virtual Linux servers to the local LAN, all inside the host PC..... |
| 00:25.25 | slinn | dondelelcaro: hah, yeah, write the fucking manual didn't bring it up in google |
| 00:25.34 | dondelelcaro | slinn: in a few months, Lars Wizerneus will also have another talk on it. |
| 00:25.42 | karsten | dondelelcaro: And I was thinking "WTF, man" |
| 00:25.46 | Mr0bvious | Wow nice language :| |
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| 00:25.53 | gravity | karsten: :-) |
| 00:26.11 | gnufan | raronson: what people say when they use a word is not something I can guess. But yes they probably mean connecting a device at the ethernet level. |
| 00:26.17 | raronson | gnufan: confused now, can't the router shape traffic, or is it that a bridge just does a better job? |
| 00:26.32 | mixel | gnufan: bah, it tries to get /unstable/unstable/coebl...386.deb |
| 00:26.32 | ubuh-huntuh | is there a command to append strings to /var/log/syslog? |
| 00:27.00 | dondelelcaro | ubuh-huntuh: logger |
| 00:27.00 | stew | ubuh-huntuh: logger |
| 00:27.01 | mixel | gnufan: reads the list correctly though |
| 00:27.03 | ubuh-huntuh | ty |
| 00:27.07 | gnufan | raronson: the router belongs to the ISP, the bridge is an old PC we own... beside the router run GNU/Linux so has better traffic shaping features ;) |
| 00:27.18 | mixel | gnufan: maybe i should just get the unstable synaptic? |
| 00:27.36 | yonkeltron | !tell jono about chin |
| 00:28.06 | dondelelcaro | mixel: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:28.34 | mixel | install codeblocks ide http://neutronic.mine.nu/unstable/ |
| 00:28.41 | gnufan | mixel: I think you are confusing me for someone more helpful |
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| 00:28.59 | mixel | gnufan: oh, right, sorry |
| 00:29.00 | raronson | gnufan: I see, it's just that some of the terminology in networking is antiquated, and I've never worked professionally with computer networks, despite having a nice mix of Debian and BSD machines at home |
| 00:29.08 | gnufan | raronson: oops the bridge runs GNU/Linux even |
| 00:29.15 | raronson | thought you meant that, lol |
| 00:29.55 | dondelelcaro | mixel: what does your sources.list lien look like? |
| 00:30.18 | gnufan | raronson: I've worked professionally in computer networking, but it is a huge field so you still learn stuff all the time. |
| 00:30.29 | dondelelcaro | mixel: it should be 'deb http://neutronic.mine.nu/ unstable/' |
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| 00:31.15 | raronson | gnufan: Cool. Yeah, stuff like Gigabit Ethernet and ATM will keep networking professionals busy for quite some time. |
| 00:31.18 | gnufan | raronson: I think it helps to have seen the history of networking, at least to understand why things are the way they are. |
| 00:31.35 | mixel | dondelelcaro: thanks! |
| 00:31.42 | raronson | gnufan: yeah, that's the point I was trying to make, which you just stated a lot better :) |
| 00:31.44 | Acidz0r | do i need kernel headers for nvidia modules or can i use the kernel sources to compile nvidia modules? |
| 00:32.00 | dondelelcaro | mixel: man 5 sources.list; and see the Packages file for why that's the case |
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| 00:33.00 | jbroome | damn, forgot to rejoin here after freenode crapped itself last weekend |
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| 00:33.15 | raronson | gnufan: so before the advent of switches, was it more common to see hubs and bridges? And if so, have switches *mostly* taken over these two functions which were seperate long ago? |
| 00:33.20 | gnufan | raronson: On the other hand you have to forget all the mysteries of Invisble networks, Banyan Vines, Netware, Dec Net, and other such lost protocols and technologies.... I mean I'm just old enough to have worked for people who had to pay extra for an IP stack on an operating system |
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| 00:33.56 | raronson | gnufan: early 80's? |
| 00:34.17 | gnufan | raronson: yes - switches basically replaced bridges and hubs in corporate environments. |
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| 00:34.36 | raronson | gnufan: I see now. |
| 00:34.49 | gnufan | raronson: no people were paying for IP stacks in the early 90's... |
| 00:35.04 | raronson | gnufan: but that being said, bonafide bridges still have their place, i.e., your work example |
| 00:35.35 | tarzeau | abrotman: damn you |
| 00:35.45 | raronson | gnufan: early 90's? I was way off. I thought Microsoft had aquired the OpenBSD stack by then |
| 00:35.53 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've wanted to go sleep one hour ago, and now i'm a briquolo addict |
| 00:35.54 | gnufan | raronson: ours is really a drop in traffic shaper.. I think that the bridge technology is very useful for things like drop in devices. If you ever want to eavesdrop on all your office traffic ;) |
| 00:36.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: one day i'll maintain more games than gnustep software packages! |
| 00:36.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: and it's ALL YOUR FAULT |
| 00:36.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: i like briquolo, i've packaged it, i'll maintain it |
| 00:36.41 | xoz_ | what's the unstable key now? |
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| 00:36.59 | dondelelcaro | xoz_: it hasn't changed. |
| 00:37.11 | gnufan | raronson: IP stacks were still interesting in Windows 3.11, but there is more than Microsoft, people were paying for IP stacks on IBM mainframes, and ICL mainframes when I started working in IT, even quite far into the 90's. |
| 00:37.22 | xulf | theres a program that wrote 16,000 files to my machine.. and counting.. How can I find these files? |
| 00:37.24 | raronson | gnufan: so in theory, would a software router project like ICOP or Smoothwall replace your ISP's router and your bridge? |
| 00:37.32 | loke | how do i get my wireless interface to show up in iwconfig, i see it in dmesg, its a ipw2100 intel 802.11b |
| 00:37.36 | tarzeau | xulf: which program? |
| 00:37.42 | xulf | httrack |
| 00:38.04 | pipeline | loke: install the "module-assistant" package in order to build the driver. |
| 00:38.04 | pipeline | loke: The driver isn't in the main tree. |
| 00:38.04 | raronson | gnufan: wow, I'd just assumed that once TCP/IP became a defacto standard that everyone had one |
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| 00:38.05 | pipeline | loke: you have to build it separately with module-assistant. |
| 00:38.07 | gnufan | raronson: yes -- except of course the politics of ownership says that the ISP controls that device. |
| 00:38.08 | xoz_ | dondelelcaro: invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive |
| 00:38.08 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 00:38.10 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> BADSIG? Some mirrors borked. Use a different mirror | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | NOTE: this is NOT #ubuntu. | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: sid, etch and /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java |
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| 00:38.23 | pipeline | raronson: Oh, no, no, no. |
| 00:38.24 | raronson | gnufan: yeah I'm sure |
| 00:38.24 | loke | pipeline in lsmod i see iwp2100? is that not right? |
| 00:38.33 | pipeline | raronson: DEC and SCO were especially fond of charging extra for something basic that everyone needed >:( |
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| 00:38.44 | pipeline | loke: Oh, that sounds like you do have the module already. Hmm. |
| 00:38.45 | raronson | pipeline: lol, glad that's over |
| 00:38.47 | gnufan | raronson: oh they had one, you just had to pay extra. A lot of people uses SAS's IP stack for IBM mainframes as it was better than IBMs <sigh> |
| 00:38.50 | pipeline | loke: Do you get any output for iwconfig? |
| 00:38.52 | tarzeau | oh finally i've got sound again, in linux. |
| 00:39.01 | tarzeau | if only xawtv and the quickcam would work |
| 00:39.07 | loke | pipeline iwconfig only shows lo0, eth0, and sit0 |
| 00:39.10 | xoz_ | dondelelcaro: got this message from deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib |
| 00:39.12 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.14 | tarzeau | and the sound shouldn't be noisy. albeit opencubicplayer is so great |
| 00:39.16 | pipeline | raronson: It used to cost circa $10,000 to get SCO UNIX with all the nice extras (e.g. TCP/IP and X11) |
| 00:39.21 | abrotman | tarzeau: you like? |
| 00:39.25 | pipeline | loke: :( |
| 00:39.29 | tarzeau | abrotman: i got briquolo addicted, yes it's one of the better opengl games |
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| 00:39.34 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: badsig is <reply> If you're seeing BASSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive; this means that the signature on the Release.gpg file doesn't match the Release file. This happened because a mirror pulse was delayed. Use a different mirror, or wait 24 hours and the problem will resolve itself. |
| 00:39.35 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: okay |
| 00:39.37 | tarzeau | abrotman: i real pearl. |
| 00:39.41 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: supposed to be fixed in a few hours? |
| 00:39.44 | tarzeau | s,i,a, |
| 00:39.50 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: badsig =~ s/BASSIG/BADSIG/ |
| 00:39.50 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: OK |
| 00:39.53 | nicolasv | Hi, I am using dpkg to remove a package (dpkg -r ) but |
| 00:40.04 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: next push, yeah |
| 00:40.06 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've finished 4 levels already... |
| 00:40.10 | raronson | pipeline: yeah, these are things I've read about, but I guess I've never really talked to anyone that had peronsal experience with matters like this. It's like my homework coming to life. Thanks. |
| 00:40.10 | nicolasv | "suprocess removal script returned error" etc |
| 00:40.25 | xoz_ | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 00:40.25 | nicolasv | is there a way to have more verbose information on what's failing ? |
| 00:40.34 | dondelelcaro | nicolasv: give us the whole output from apt-get/dpkg |
| 00:40.39 | raronson | gnufan: well cool, thanks for all the helpful info :) |
| 00:40.42 | loke | pipeline, #flood check it out |
| 00:40.43 | dondelelcaro | nicolasv: use the paster bot to do so... |
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| 00:41.33 | loke | pipeline dmesg has some errors |
| 00:41.34 | gnufan | raronson: I think also this dated experience of proprietary networking is why us old timers are so paranoid about things like the great chinese firewall, skype, and other proprietary technologies that break it all down again. Been there, done that.... escaped. |
| 00:41.41 | tarzeau | abrotman: super fast paced, level editor, super special effects, all moving stones |
| 00:41.50 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: jeroen said it would be around 0100 UTC .. which should be .. like now :) |
| 00:41.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: circular moving stones, double balls |
| 00:41.56 | abrotman | tarzeau: you love it! |
| 00:42.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: ball accelerators, special items, like view from the ground |
| 00:42.08 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's great man |
| 00:42.14 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: well, it'll take an hour or so for the pulse to run |
| 00:42.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: oddly good .. yay for happy penguin! |
| 00:42.26 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i suppose |
| 00:42.29 | karsten | Is there a debian-laptop channel or is here appropriate? |
| 00:42.38 | abrotman | there's a laptop list |
| 00:42.39 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: anyway, presumably it'll be fixed soon... |
| 00:42.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: you'll get your ass burned for robbing my sleep time in hell, i swear you |
| 00:42.44 | abrotman | hopefully |
| 00:42.46 | karsten | abrotman: Yeah, I know. |
| 00:42.47 | abrotman | tarzeau: hehe |
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| 00:42.56 | abrotman | tarzeau: at least i didn't tell you about the sub game |
| 00:42.57 | raronson | gnufan: yeah, definitely. I started getting intimate with the Internet around '97, and so I joined the party after a lot of important events |
| 00:43.14 | raronson | had already taken place... |
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| 00:43.23 | pipeline | You mean, after the bullshit was out of the way. |
| 00:43.24 | arthurb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.26 | pipeline | You didn't miss anything. |
| 00:43.30 | abrotman | tarzeau: http://happypenguin.org/show?Danger%20from%20the%20Deep |
| 00:43.47 | tarzeau | abrotman: damn there's shock mines, and turn tables |
| 00:43.56 | karsten | Thinkpad T21 testing/unstable. Running 2.6.8-2-686, also have 2.6.15-1-686. First bit: can't run X on 2.6.15, blank screen. |
| 00:44.00 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's so fucking great. |
| 00:44.05 | raronson | true, and things will always change, so there's never really a "too late" timeframe to worry about |
| 00:44.07 | tarzeau | abrotman: sub game? |
| 00:44.13 | gnufan | raronson: I saw IP arrive on Janet -- 1998 IIRC -- it was obvious then what the future looked like, but I lacked the business acumen then to go set up an early ISP. |
| 00:44.16 | abrotman | tarzeau: read that URL |
| 00:44.24 | loke | pipeline how exactly do i build the iwp2100 module with module-assistant? |
| 00:44.31 | karsten | ... also can't get fb and X to work. If I boot with framebuffer (0318) X shows blank. Currently, vga=6, works. |
| 00:44.37 | tarzeau | abrotman: must start the shabby firefox first.. |
| 00:44.37 | gnufan | raronson: 1988 even |
| 00:44.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: hehe |
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| 00:44.47 | karsten | ... also trying to sort ACPI. Keyboard hibernate / sleep seem to work, but restoring doesn't. |
| 00:44.48 | tarzeau | abrotman: NOT ANOTHER GAME |
| 00:44.54 | stew | !m-a loke ipw2100 |
| 00:44.55 | dpkg | loke: to compile and install ipw2100 for your running kernel: apt-get install build-essential module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i ipw2100 && modprobe ipw2100 ; if this works echo ipw2100 >> /etc/modules ; also ask me about <m-a> |
| 00:45.03 | abrotman | tarzeau: the graphics are AWESOME |
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| 00:45.10 | tarzeau | abrotman: oh stop it... |
| 00:45.15 | raronson | gnufan: lol--yeah, technical folks are not always quick to grok business |
| 00:45.26 | gnufan | raronson: of course then Alan Cox just wrote computer games, and went under the name "Cardboard box". |
| 00:45.29 | tarzeau | abrotman: i will download it and try tomorrow. any more games? |
| 00:45.37 | SuperNet | ok guys, i really need some help..... the httpd.conf file shows nothing... how do i add domains , with ips? |
| 00:45.42 | karsten | abrotman: You're mentioned in the factoids... |
| 00:45.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: apt-get install danger-from-the-deep eh? |
| 00:45.45 | pipeline | loke: module-assistant is a wizard interface. It's pretty self explanatory. |
| 00:45.45 | raronson | gnufan: whois Alan Cox? |
| 00:45.46 | tarzeau | abrotman: like a cheap porno |
| 00:45.46 | abrotman | tarzeau: i have to look |
| 00:45.49 | abrotman | karsten: factoids? |
| 00:45.59 | karsten | abrotman: /msg dpkg thinkpad. |
| 00:46.00 | abrotman | tarzeau: it's not packaged yet afaik |
| 00:46.14 | abrotman | karsten: nfc where that came from :) |
| 00:46.17 | tarzeau | abrotman: i can package it faster, than you can type the apt-get install command above |
| 00:46.21 | gnufan | raronson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Cox |
| 00:46.21 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 00:46.43 | arthurb | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2056 |
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| 00:47.01 | Kerr | anyone know of an easy way to install ispconfig on sarge? |
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| 00:47.09 | arthurb | how do I got more information on what's going wrong? |
| 00:47.13 | SuperNet | ok guys, i really need some help..... the httpd.conf file shows nothing... how do i add domains , with ips?? |
| 00:47.22 | raronson | gnufan: lol, eveyone knows Linus and not the others I guess |
| 00:47.23 | ka60_kasatka | hi all |
| 00:47.30 | tarzeau | abrotman: oh and it's only 12 mb... |
| 00:47.32 | raronson | hi |
| 00:47.41 | gnufan | raronson: I've never met Alan, although I met the rest of the Abermud crowd -- got drunk enough to forget some of them -- threw up on Aberyswyth sea front etc -- ah the excesses of youth ;) |
| 00:47.59 | ka60_kasatka | anyone have experience with a smartcard reader un an usb port? |
| 00:48.03 | raronson | gnufan: LOL, cool cool |
| 00:48.15 | gnufan | raronson: unless you count being abused in Abermud by random wizards |
| 00:48.16 | karsten | ka60_kasatka: Should appear as a SCSI storage device IIUC. |
| 00:48.23 | abrotman | tarzeau: it's not a bad game ... |
| 00:48.31 | raronson | gnufan: that sounds like a rather complex story |
| 00:48.46 | tarzeau | abrotman: have you tried zatacka yet? |
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| 00:49.06 | tarzeau | abrotman: or wormsofprey? |
| 00:49.12 | ka60_kasatka | no this one appear like a serial adapter, but how can i use it? mounting it lika a flash memory? |
| 00:49.15 | karsten | s/born a/ born a poor/ |
| 00:49.33 | gnufan | karsten: that sounds even more complex -- or leading to a complex one or the other.. was he nice? |
| 00:49.59 | karsten | gnufan: Yes. Like a lot of key devs, he's very cool, understated, personable. |
| 00:50.21 | xoz_ | karsten: dmesg should give info where it should be mounted |
| 00:50.21 | abrotman | tarzeau: nope |
| 00:50.25 | xoz_ | karsten: err |
| 00:50.35 | raronson | gnufan: Okay, that's it--when I'm retired I'm growing a HUGE ridiculous UNIX beard |
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| 00:50.47 | xoz_ | ka60_kasatka: dmesg should give info where it should be mounted |
| 00:50.49 | karsten | xoz_: ?? |
| 00:50.56 | karsten | xoz_: NM. |
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| 00:50.59 | gnufan | raronson: no beard here, but perhaps that explains why my code sucks |
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| 00:51.27 | ka60_kasatka | but I can browse a Sim Card once it is mounted? |
| 00:51.30 | tarzeau | does it matter where the beard is? |
| 00:51.36 | raronson | lol |
| 00:51.37 | karsten | Feh. Project FAQs should start with "what is this and what does it do": http://www.suspend2.net/FAQ |
| 00:51.45 | zygut | I just rebooted and now grub wont give me my menu, but instead loads stage 1.5 and then reports "Error 15" and I cannot boot unless I boot from a rescue CD, I tried reinstalling grub, but that didn't seem to do it |
| 00:51.46 | gnufan | tarzeau: yes - next topic |
| 00:51.48 | delliott | Who should I attempt to annoy with iMac G4 Sound issues? |
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| 00:52.13 | Bucciarati | delliott: annoy google |
| 00:52.15 | Agrajag- | gday, in my /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf i've set dc_smarthost to my mailserver, and run update-exim4.conf - but i still get "Mailing to remote domains not supported". what have i missed? |
| 00:52.36 | xoz_ | ka60_kasatka: if your card has data, it behaves like any filesystem |
| 00:52.54 | delliott | Bucciarati: I have tried to annoy Google but it hasn't told me what I'd like to hear. |
| 00:52.59 | ka60_kasatka | it is a phone simcard |
| 00:53.08 | zygut | I'm gettng "Error 15: File not found" from grub when I boot |
| 00:53.20 | loke | hey pipeline, when i do m-a a-i ipw2100, i get this error, Warning, /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.1 seems to contain unconfigured |
| 00:53.20 | loke | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.25 | xoz_ | ka60_kasatka: no experience with that one |
| 00:53.36 | loke | then, Installation of the ipw2100-source source failed. |
| 00:54.05 | liable | loke: so copy your config into it, or install headers |
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| 00:54.38 | xoz_ | why compile when ipw2100 is in debian's kernel. |
| 00:54.54 | sparkx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:55.21 | raronson | gnufan: so that bridge at work, it's just an appliance PC that uses a linux firewall, possibly IPSEC, and some other QoS software? Or is there more to it? |
| 00:55.33 | loke | liable cp /boot/config-2.6.15-1-486 /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.1/ ? |
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| 00:56.23 | liable | loke: yes, add .config at the end, then you need to make theheaders with make depends. |
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| 00:56.36 | ka60_kasatka | tail -v /var/log/messages |
| 00:57.10 | loke | liable still the same error |
| 00:57.21 | ka60_kasatka | sry i wrote on the wrong shell.... |
| 00:57.37 | gnufan | raronson: less to it. Just an old PC, two network cards, and standard software. I forget if it is Redhat 9 or Debian. The traffic shaping is all straight out of the LARTC (Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control) How To. |
| 00:57.40 | loke | liable /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.1 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source! |
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| 00:57.52 | liable | did you name the config, .config? |
| 00:57.55 | loke | yes |
| 00:58.03 | liable | then run make depends |
| 00:58.04 | loke | cp /boot/config-2.6.15-1-486 /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.1/.config |
| 00:58.18 | gnufan | raronson: The cards are configured as a bridge, and the traffic shaping applied. We assign it an IP address for management reasons (we run traffic monitoring on it sometimes). |
| 00:58.31 | loke | liable so run 'make' ? |
| 00:58.35 | liable | loke: err, make prepare |
| 00:58.42 | loke | ok |
| 00:59.03 | raronson | gnufan: okay, when you say the cards are config'd as a bridge, you mean that the cards connect the router to the internal network? |
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| 00:59.31 | loke | liable ok, now another error, says installation of the ipw2100-source source failed |
| 00:59.56 | loke | liable ingorning this pakage, maybe you need to add something to sources.list, maybe the contrib and non-free archives. ???? |
| 01:00.11 | gnufan | raronson: yeap -- but when you build a bridge in Linux, it takes multiple interfaces, and controls them as one. br0 is a combination of eth0 and eth1, so I think of it as combining them, but that is mental simplification on my part. |
| 01:00.21 | liable | loke: dunno |
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| 01:01.23 | loke | liable so basically module-assistant allows me not be required to recompile the kernel? |
| 01:01.38 | raronson | gnufan: yeah, that helps a lot actually. I have Smoothwall router at home with 3 nics (red, orange, and green), so I see how the function of a bridge is different than that |
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| 01:02.05 | raronson | gnufan: while being slightly similar |
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| 01:02.29 | fantomas | Hi. Are there crosscompilers in Debian? I need to build some programs for ARM |
| 01:02.39 | liable | loke: yeah. why did you install kernel source? |
| 01:02.41 | fantomas | I don't like to build it myself |
| 01:02.49 | loke | yeah |
| 01:02.50 | abrotman | fantomas: gcc |
| 01:02.52 | liable | loke: just install the headers for your kernel. |
| 01:02.54 | gnufan | raronson: we could have done the same thing with a router, but since all the machines had x.y.z.1 as the default route, it was easier to create a drop-in device. The bridge does that fine, we could have used proxy ARP I guess. |
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| 01:03.01 | amerv1 | hi |
| 01:03.06 | xfan | how to add video support into openoffice impress ? |
| 01:03.07 | amerv1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.10 | xfan | is there a mplayer pluggin for that ? |
| 01:03.14 | amerv1 | my linux boots with acpi on |
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| 01:03.28 | fantomas | abrotman: and what about binutils? |
| 01:03.30 | amerv1 | im running debian sid |
| 01:03.40 | abrotman | fantomas: what about them? |
| 01:03.53 | paq | amerv1, man hdparm (see the -S option) |
| 01:03.53 | fantomas | abrotman: I have no arm-* stuff |
| 01:04.01 | weasel_00 | how do i access the default firewall settings? |
| 01:04.07 | abrotman | gcc creates the binaries afaik |
| 01:04.19 | raronson | gnufan: proxy arp is the howto I'm reading next. Despite have a fully working network at home, there's a lot I still don't know about. |
| 01:04.28 | raronson | gnufan: having* |
| 01:04.28 | abrotman | fantomas: you can ask #gcc .. they should have docs |
| 01:04.36 | fantomas | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 01:05.16 | Sonny | do you know how to connect to my wireless lan?? I've already install the driver |
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| 01:06.06 | liable | Sonny: you got madwifi installed? |
| 01:06.08 | amerv1 | is there a gui frontend for hdparm? |
| 01:06.21 | paq | amerv1, nope |
| 01:06.21 | liable | dont think so |
| 01:06.31 | amerv1 | ohh |
| 01:06.33 | gnufan | raronson: as you realise the function of devices is sometimes much more than their basic behaviour. So names like bridge, switch, firewall, are often inadequate. For example our bridge does traffic shaping, it doesn't firewall but we could have made it do that as well. I think a solid knowledge of what IP networking devices can do is useful to anyone in IT. Especially if you ever have success and need to buy load balancing services or anythin |
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| 01:06.42 | Sonny | liable: yep |
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| 01:06.53 | folial_ | hi |
| 01:07.13 | liable | Sonny: does the router do dhcp? |
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| 01:07.22 | Sonny | liable: yep |
| 01:07.28 | liable | Sonny: if so, just run dhclient ath0 |
| 01:07.43 | Sonny | let me try |
| 01:07.54 | liable | Sonny: unless you have the new code, then you need to create ath0 first. |
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| 01:08.29 | raronson | gnufan: yeah, more times that not you can make a single machine do everything it seems, until you need to scale. Well, I really appreciate your help and the nice chat :) |
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| 01:08.35 | amerv1 | paq: how do i use the hdparm -B option |
| 01:08.47 | Posh | hello all, can anyone tell me how to wget an entire web directory? |
| 01:08.56 | amerv1 | it says set Advanced Power Management setting (1-255) |
| 01:09.11 | folial_ | can I ask help about XOrg installation and DRM setup? |
| 01:09.15 | gnufan | raronson: Yes, nice chat. Time to sleep. |
| 01:09.19 | folial_ | please? |
| 01:09.22 | gnufan | Posh: read the fine manual |
| 01:09.29 | raronson | cya :) |
| 01:09.34 | Posh | the manual says use passive ;o/ |
| 01:09.50 | Seb | Posh: there is an option about recursion in the man page |
| 01:09.57 | Posh | k ill look again, thanks |
| 01:09.58 | liable | folial_: just ask. dont ask to ask. |
| 01:09.59 | Seb | s/in/described in/ |
| 01:10.06 | folial_ | ok... |
| 01:10.19 | folial_ | Posh: by ftp or http? |
| 01:10.52 | gnufan | Posh: -r |
| 01:10.52 | gnufan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:10.52 | gnufan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:11.30 | mrec | does anyone know how to change the Sample Encoding with sox? current command I use ox -r 48000 -w -c 2 -t alsa hw:1 -t alsa hw:0 plays Sample Encoding: signed (2's complement) which is wrong it should be unsigned |
| 01:11.33 | digijohn | Hello everyone; I need a good, reliable firewall configuration tool for my fresh debian install |
| 01:11.39 | digijohn | Suggestions? |
| 01:12.15 | folial_ | "recursive retrieving" means that wget will follow all links in a page and so on (till n-level of recursion, with n: `-l n`) |
| 01:12.44 | folial_ | Posh: what do you mean as "entire web directory"? |
| 01:12.52 | Coweater | digijohn: quicktables |
| 01:13.10 | stew | digijohn: what are you trying to prevent? |
| 01:13.25 | folial_ | usually you cannot browse an "entire web directory" using http... |
| 01:13.36 | digijohn | stew: I'm just running a desktop box; I'm trying to prevent random connections |
| 01:13.46 | stew | digijohn: don't run any random services then |
| 01:13.47 | slinn | is >> or > append to file? |
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| 01:13.54 | stew | digijohn: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 01:14.36 | Supaplex | slinn: >> |
| 01:14.55 | Supaplex | slinn: at any rate, that's something you could "tias" (try it and see) |
| 01:15.01 | folial_ | please help, I'm in trouble with Direct Rendering enabling for my videocard, 'Radeon IGP 340M' using Xorg with radeon module, with module radeon for DRM of kernel 2.6.11 |
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| 01:15.20 | Sonny | liable: can I do that every time I turn on my laptop it decides what to use, ethernet o wifi, itself? depending on what is avaiable? |
| 01:15.49 | folial_ | also if in Xorg.0.log all seems ok, Direct Rendering results not to be enabled when I try glxinfo/glxgears |
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| 01:16.41 | folial_ | I fear to lack something with packages needed to enable support for 3d |
| 01:16.47 | folial_ | could you help me? |
| 01:16.51 | folial_ | thanks |
| 01:17.37 | folial_ | that's strange... because I load right modules in xorg.conf (radeon, glx, dri) |
| 01:18.22 | folial_ | but when I start glxgears error appears: "libGL error: InitDriver failed" |
| 01:18.49 | curt | !tell folial_ -about radeon |
| 01:21.06 | folial_ | well... my card is supported by xorg's radeon module (ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337) |
| 01:21.22 | folial_ | while it is not by ATI proprietary drivers |
| 01:21.36 | Stevie | haha |
| 01:21.40 | abrotman | i don't think xorg supports that card for 3d |
| 01:21.43 | gravity | folial_: That's supported in xorg's radeon module, eys |
| 01:21.53 | folial_ | that's the point |
| 01:21.53 | gravity | folial_: I have an IGP340M myself |
| 01:22.08 | curt | hehe |
| 01:22.10 | folial_ | should I try DRI modules? "vanilla" ones? |
| 01:22.23 | folial_ | aren't they included in xorg - kernel 2.6.11? |
| 01:22.26 | curt | abrotman, gravity's turf |
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| 01:22.39 | gravity | folial_: Could you post the logfile in a paster please? |
| 01:22.44 | gravity | I can take a look at it |
| 01:22.50 | folial_ | ok |
| 01:22.52 | gravity | It just works(tm) for me though |
| 01:23.08 | folial_ | I'll paste xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log |
| 01:23.18 | folial_ | which paster do you prefer? |
| 01:23.19 | gravity | folial_: Ok, not in here mind you... in a paster |
| 01:23.29 | gravity | folial_: Whatever. I'm not picky :-) |
| 01:23.46 | folial_ | ok... |
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| 01:24.20 | gravity | It could very well be the kernel version. I don't know what the deal is with that off the top of my head (or at all) |
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| 01:24.41 | Sonny | In my old Debian. I had an applet in the gnome panel that shows me the wifi connection, why I dont have it now? |
| 01:25.27 | pipeline | Sonny: Modern versions of gnome have ditched it, hoping that networkManager will be ready for prime-time soon. |
| 01:25.28 | gravity | Sonny: install netapplet |
| 01:25.31 | pipeline | Sonny: What version of debian are you using? |
| 01:26.23 | Sonny | pipeline: debian etch |
| 01:26.27 | folial_ | that's there: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2057 |
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| 01:26.54 | Sonny | can I do that every time I turn on my laptop it decides what to use, ethernet o wifi, itself? depending on what is avaiable? |
| 01:26.58 | folial_ | apart from configuration, I fear I lack something about packages needed |
| 01:27.53 | folial_ | perhaps my debian installation is not so clean... I replaced XFree with Xorg, and things went better |
| 01:27.54 | liable | Sonny: it worked? |
| 01:28.01 | Blissex | Sonny: there are several ''WiFi location awareness'' packages... |
| 01:28.01 | JayR | hi people |
| 01:28.34 | JayR | im trying to install Debian "sid" but I got pause half why and it says 'no kernenl modules were found' |
| 01:28.39 | Sonny | liable: yep, It worked.... I read to add some lines to the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 01:28.57 | liable | Sonny: cool. |
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| 01:29.56 | folial_ | I don't know if I have got all the right packages needed to use OpenGL... |
| 01:30.07 | gravity | folial_: It looks fine to me |
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| 01:30.28 | folial_ | in debian there are always a lot of different possibilities... and I cannot decide which is the right one |
| 01:30.30 | amerv1 | how do i get the system monitor shown on this screenshot -> http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/screenshots/verScreenshot.php?codigo=3425 |
| 01:30.31 | gravity | folial_: Running glxinfo says you have no direct rendering? |
| 01:30.38 | folial_ | exact |
| 01:30.49 | Bucciarati | about net configuration.. debtags tagsearch 'network::configuration && hardware::laptop' |
| 01:31.00 | gravity | hrm |
| 01:31.09 | folial_ | but, glxgears give me also an error message: "libGL error: InitDriver failed" |
| 01:31.16 | gravity | eh? |
| 01:31.20 | gravity | Ok... that's interesting |
| 01:31.23 | Meltir | hi ppl. im getting ugly problems while burning on sarge. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79402.html this topic describes my problems rather well, but doesnt give an idea for a solution. atm - i cant write jack on my burner. anyone have any ideas ? google doesnt help - or im asking too specific a question.... |
| 01:31.33 | gravity | folial_: You may need a newer kernel |
| 01:31.36 | folial_ | could I know which packages did you install, for mesa? |
| 01:31.41 | Sonny | gravity: where is supposed to installed the netapplet? how can I use it? |
| 01:31.41 | gravity | folial_: I don't know if the version you have installed will work |
| 01:31.46 | folial_ | do you think it's the kernel? |
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| 01:31.52 | folial_ | uh uh... |
| 01:31.53 | gravity | folial_: Yeah, that's my best guess |
| 01:32.00 | gravity | Sonny: Did you install it? |
| 01:32.04 | folial_ | uhm... |
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| 01:32.34 | gravity | Sonny: I added it to the gnome session startup using the "sessions" control panel preference thingy |
| 01:32.41 | gravity | Sonny: It it starts when gnome starts |
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| 01:32.47 | folial_ | gravity: what kernel version do you have, please? |
| 01:33.03 | gravity | folial_: 2.6.15 |
| 01:33.08 | folial_ | can I pm you? |
| 01:33.15 | gravity | No |
| 01:33.28 | gravity | You can just talk in the channel, it's fine |
| 01:33.28 | JayR | how do I install sid? |
| 01:33.53 | folial_ | last things I would to know, what packages did you install to get things working? |
| 01:34.00 | gravity | JayR: If I tell you, will you promise not to ask anyone for help with it? |
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| 01:34.15 | JayR | ok promise |
| 01:34.18 | gravity | folial_: I just have sid installed |
| 01:34.35 | folial_ | uhm... ok... |
| 01:34.39 | folial_ | thanx |
| 01:34.44 | gravity | JayR: Replace the correct words in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:34.52 | gravity | JayR168: Remember, if you broke it you bought it |
| 01:35.02 | JayR168 | ok what to replace? |
| 01:35.07 | gravity | JayR168: sid is for people who know what they're doing and are happy to learn about it. |
| 01:35.11 | gravity | JayR168: If you can't figure that out... |
| 01:35.14 | xulf | this program has put 80 megs and 17,000 files and counting some where.. but how should I find them? |
| 01:35.50 | SuperNet | hey guys |
| 01:35.53 | JayR168 | ok what do I put in my sources.list? |
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| 01:35.58 | jimb0 | your face |
| 01:36.12 | liable | eh |
| 01:36.12 | gravity | JayR168: Replace "stable" with "unstable" |
| 01:36.15 | gravity | JayR168: It's not rocket science |
| 01:36.31 | folial_ | sorry... "sid" is the unstable version, is it right? |
| 01:36.35 | gravity | JayR168: Remember, it breaks, so you'd better know what you're doing |
| 01:36.36 | xulf | or maybe it is rocket science |
| 01:36.38 | gravity | folial_: Yes |
| 01:36.42 | JayR168 | I have cd1 sid in cd drive |
| 01:36.50 | gravity | folial_: You can install a custom kernel easily on your current system though |
| 01:36.58 | gravity | Well, as easy as it is to make a custom kernel I guess |
| 01:37.02 | JayR168 | how do I tell sources.list about that? |
| 01:37.07 | gravity | ... |
| 01:37.14 | gravity | JayR168: apt-cdrom I think |
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| 01:37.23 | JayR168 | ok after apt-cdrom |
| 01:37.24 | gravity | JayR168: If you can't figure this out... you shouldn't be running sid |
| 01:37.36 | liable | cd1 sid? um, no.. |
| 01:37.40 | gravity | JayR168: Basically, if you want to run sid I highly recommend figuring it out |
| 01:37.40 | Sonny | gravity: I see the icon too small in the panel :( |
| 01:37.46 | gravity | Sonny: Sorry dude |
| 01:37.53 | JayR168 | is etch much better than sid? |
| 01:37.55 | Meltir | anyone familiar with cdrecord issues ? |
| 01:38.50 | Sonny | gravity: why???? it is smaller than anothers |
| 01:38.58 | gravity | Sonny: I have no idea |
| 01:39.04 | Sonny | gravity: is there a way to resize it? |
| 01:39.15 | gravity | Sonny: Not that I'm aware of, short of resizing the panel itself |
| 01:39.28 | Sonny | gravity: I mean in the traybar |
| 01:39.41 | gravity | Sonny: I know, but like I said, I don't have an answer for you |
| 01:39.45 | gravity | It's the same size as all my icons |
| 01:39.46 | liable | grr, still bad sig problems. |
| 01:40.00 | folial_ | gravity: how can I? I cannot find 2.6.15 sources with apt |
| 01:40.15 | JayR168 | is etch much better than sid? |
| 01:40.40 | liable | ah, its added to /topic now :) |
| 01:40.46 | gravity | folial_: kernel.org |
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| 01:41.20 | Sonny | gravity: thanks anyway body. maybe editing some conf file... let me try |
| 01:41.21 | gravity | !better |
| 01:41.21 | dpkg | better is, like, a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 01:41.29 | folial_ | ok, found it... linux-source-2.6.15 (Debian patched, best than vanilla, isn't it?) |
| 01:41.31 | gravity | JayR168: ^ |
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| 01:41.52 | folial_ | but I find Debian so confusing... |
| 01:41.58 | goingtomoonbrb | source? |
| 01:42.01 | goingtomoonbrb | hmm |
| 01:42.08 | goingtomoonbrb | What's the bot's name again? |
| 01:42.08 | folial_ | why? |
| 01:42.11 | gravity | folial_: This is a standard linux thing... or at least it used to be |
| 01:42.15 | JayR168 | is etch much stable than sid? |
| 01:42.21 | gravity | JayR168: Yes |
| 01:42.22 | goingtomoonbrb | JayR168: In theory. |
| 01:42.38 | JayR168 | does it include a text mode installer? |
| 01:43.15 | goingtomoonbrb | Hmm. Is there a way to get a non-repo source to make with the Debian folder so that it can be built into a package? |
| 01:43.20 | folial_ | uhm... don't kill me, but gentoo is a little more well organised... |
| 01:43.30 | Meltir | oh, crap. if anyone is going to be asking about problems with sarge - tell them to downgrade cdrecord :[ |
| 01:43.33 | folial_ | :-P |
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| 01:43.43 | gentgeen__ | Not Debian... but sure someone here can answer my question.... |
| 01:43.46 | gentgeen__ | I have a text file that has 2 rows, 10 columns, tab delimited -- is there a way to "rotate" it so that it is 10 rows and 2 columns??? |
| 01:43.54 | Virtual | I changed the monitors on my pc while it was running and X.Org started using 30% of my CPU ever since, is it possible that the reason is that I changed the monitor ? |
| 01:43.59 | Meltir | gentgeen__: sed :P |
| 01:44.00 | gravity | folial_: You have debian *stable* installed. Gentoo doesn't have anything comparable really |
| 01:44.07 | gravity | folial_: If you want something closer to gentoo, try unstable |
| 01:44.13 | gravity | folial_: But you'll get what you wish for with it |
| 01:44.20 | goingtomoonbrb | gravity: :D |
| 01:44.28 | goingtomoonbrb | Testing is a decent compromise. |
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| 01:44.30 | folial_ | in fact... i'll try as soon as I can |
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| 01:44.57 | folial_ | I cannot afford gentoo only for compiling time |
| 01:45.04 | _AR_ | I have on my laptop vga out, how i can do DUAL-Head system, in xorg.conf i must describe in section device 2 video card for this, but videocard ony one? |
| 01:45.11 | gentgeen__ | Meltir, thanks-- I now that I know what to "man" :) |
| 01:45.32 | folial_ | debian is a good project... but sometimes a bit... chaotic |
| 01:45.35 | Bucciarati | gentgeen__: also man xargs |
| 01:45.49 | Bucciarati | gentgeen__: and man tr |
| 01:46.10 | folial_ | but do you think "unstable" is sufficiently robust? |
| 01:46.19 | Meltir | gentgeen__: dont get discouraged by the sed manual - its scary, but sed is a _vary_ powerfull tool :) |
| 01:46.39 | Meltir | s/var/ver/ |
| 01:46.42 | Meltir | see ? ;) |
| 01:46.48 | goingtomoonbrb | ¯\(º_o)/¯ |
| 01:46.50 | gentgeen__ | Meltir, no worrys-- read it 100 times by now :) |
| 01:46.52 | folial_ | every debian guide wants to frighten users from using unstable... |
| 01:46.54 | goingtomoonbrb | Hmm. Is there a way to get a non-repo source to make with the Debian folder so that it can be built into a package? |
| 01:47.00 | folial_ | well... |
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| 01:47.12 | folial_ | i'm going to upgrade my kernel... |
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| 01:47.20 | folial_ | see you soon |
| 01:47.24 | Virtual | I changed the monitors on my pc while it was running and X.Org started using 30% of my CPU ever since, is it possible that the reason is that I changed the monitor ? |
| 01:47.26 | Meltir | say, i hear that dpkg once did the sed replacements in this channel - is that still valid ? :> |
| 01:47.32 | Meltir | *d |
| 01:47.37 | Nopalin | hey, why apt try to download an inexisten package like fontconfig_2.3.2-2_i386.deb?? |
| 01:48.00 | Nopalin | i looking for it on packages.debian.org and cant find it |
| 01:48.19 | goingtomoonbrb | Nopalin: Maybe it was referred to by another package but doesn't actually exist in that repo? |
| 01:48.25 | goingtomoonbrb | Nopalin: Have you added the non-free repos? |
| 01:48.40 | Bucciarati | anyone knows how to use ssh sources in the sources.list ? sources.list(5) didn't help much.. |
| 01:49.30 | Nopalin | goingtomoonbrb: yes, gtk+2.0 depends on it and i have non-free repos :s |
| 01:49.46 | chealer | Nopalin: which release do you use? |
| 01:50.02 | Nopalin | i use sarge, with some unstable packages |
| 01:50.23 | chealer | Nopalin: your unstable sources must be the problem |
| 01:50.50 | Nopalin | hmmm, but gtk+-2.0 is on stable release? |
| 01:51.00 | goingtomoonbrb | Hmm. Is there a way to get a non-repo source to make with the Debian folder so that it can be built into a package? |
| 01:51.00 | chealer | Nopalin: hopefully |
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| 01:51.29 | goingtomoonbrb | I can ./configue && make it, but it doesn't end up with a DEBIAN control dir for dpkg -b to latch on to |
| 01:51.40 | Nopalin | chealer: how i cant downgrade to stable release.. apt-get install gtk+-2.0 -t stable ?? |
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| 01:51.54 | chealer | !tell Nopalin about downgrade |
| 01:52.39 | goingtomoonbrb | Heh. I was pretty stupid though when I first distupgraded to testing. I forced aptitude to get packages that it was holding back, and broke GNOME |
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| 01:52.44 | goingtomoonbrb | D: |
| 01:52.45 | quik_ | hey folks |
| 01:53.02 | goingtomoonbrb | quik_: y'halo thar. |
| 01:53.11 | quik_ | is there any reason why all of my sources.list deb entries resolve to 10.0.0.0? |
| 01:53.29 | SuperNet | how do i start apache guys? |
| 01:53.33 | Nopalin | chealer: i do apt-get install -t unstable libgtk2.0-dev |
| 01:53.33 | Nopalin | , but is fails : Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/z/zlib/zlib1g_1.2.3-10_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 204.152.191.7 80] |
| 01:53.58 | Nopalin | chealer: and many others packages |
| 01:53.59 | SuperNet | how do i start apache guys? does anyone know? |
| 01:54.06 | Bucciarati | quik_: check /etc/hosts ? or /etc/apt/preferences for proxies and such ? |
| 01:54.19 | Bucciarati | SuperNet: invoke-rc.d apache start |
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| 01:54.25 | SuperNet | thanks |
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| 01:54.36 | SuperNet | it saays not found |
| 01:54.43 | goingtomoonbrb | Nopalin: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fg%2Fgtk%2B2.0%2Flibgtk2.0-dev_2.8.12-1_i386.deb&md5sum=bab2dd7b442bb837fbe1da6d98f9e278&arch=i386&type=main |
| 01:54.47 | SuperNet | invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache not found |
| 01:54.56 | goingtomoonbrb | download it from packages.debian.org |
| 01:54.58 | Bucciarati | SuperNet: apt-get insatll apache .. |
| 01:55.00 | goingtomoonbrb | and dpkg -i it |
| 01:55.11 | chealer | Nopalin: which is not surprising, as zlib1g 1.2.3-10 is not in unstable |
| 01:55.25 | SuperNet | it is installed |
| 01:55.27 | SuperNet | it was |
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| 01:55.34 | goingtomoonbrb | SuperNet: man apache ? |
| 01:55.35 | Bucciarati | SuperNet: maybe you meant apache2 |
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| 01:55.49 | Nopalin | chealer: is on experimental? |
| 01:55.53 | SuperNet | yea |
| 01:55.56 | SuperNet | apache2 |
| 01:55.57 | SuperNet | sorry |
| 01:56.01 | Nopalin | goingtomoonbrb: that package has many dependencies |
| 01:56.03 | chealer | Nopalin: it's not in release anymore. |
| 01:56.13 | chealer | Nopalin: s/in release/in any release |
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| 01:56.32 | SuperNet | Bucciarati Yes |
| 01:56.34 | goingtomoonbrb | Nopalin: look up that zlib package you need on packages.debian.org and get it. |
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| 01:57.03 | goingtomoonbrb | Hmm. Is there a way to get a non-repo source to make with the Debian folder so that it can be built into a package? |
| 01:57.15 | Nopalin | but, apt recolves dependencies.. how i can tell to apt which package needs to download? |
| 01:57.19 | Nopalin | resolves* |
| 01:57.25 | goingtomoonbrb | I mean, I can compile source, but I can't get it to do so and create the Debian control dir for dpkg-deb to build it. |
| 01:57.29 | SuperNet | so does anyone know how to start apache2 |
| 01:57.39 | goingtomoonbrb | Nopalin: It tells you which dependencies are unmet, correct? |
| 01:57.50 | chealer | goingtomoonbrb: I'm not a native English speaker, but I don't understand your question |
| 01:57.52 | Nopalin | goingtomoonbrb: yes |
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| 01:58.01 | goingtomoonbrb | So: Find that unmet dependency on packages.debian.org, download it, and dpkg -i it |
| 01:58.07 | goingtomoonbrb | chealer: Let me try again. |
| 01:58.18 | chealer | SuperNet: no. once it stops, you have to reinstall your machine! |
| 01:58.29 | goingtomoonbrb | dpkg-deb -b will build a package with the DEBIAN control directory in it |
| 01:58.39 | Bucciarati | SuperNet: .. if *apache* starts with 'invoke-rc.d *apache* start', apache2 starting is left as an exercise to the reader .. |
| 01:58.41 | goingtomoonbrb | It will build it into a .deb package archive file |
| 01:58.49 | SuperNet | chealer, really? |
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| 01:58.53 | chealer | Nopalin: which package needs to be downloaded when you do what? |
| 01:58.53 | SuperNet | whois chainsaw |
| 01:58.57 | goingtomoonbrb | However, most non-repo source code doesn't "make" with that directory or control file |
| 01:59.04 | chealer | SuperNet: what do you think |
| 01:59.06 | Nopalin | goingtomoonbrb: but maybe that package has dependencies, and those dependencies has more dependencies.... i dont wanna download one by one |
| 01:59.10 | Bucciarati | goingtomoonbrb: debuild ? |
| 01:59.13 | SuperNet | No, how do you start it then? |
| 01:59.19 | goingtomoonbrb | Bucciarati: debuild? |
| 01:59.25 | goingtomoonbrb | What is debuild? |
| 01:59.41 | gravity | goingtomoonbrb: dpkg-buildpackage wrapper |
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| 01:59.43 | gravity | wrapper of a wrapper |
| 01:59.51 | Bucciarati | goingtomoonbrb: if the source has a debian/ directory, probably debuild will build it into a proper package |
| 01:59.58 | goingtomoonbrb | Nopalin: Um. Find what repo that package is in, put that repo in your sources.list, and use apt-get -t (stable/testing/whatever it is) thefile? |
| 02:00.01 | SuperNet | please someone help me out |
| 02:00.08 | goingtomoonbrb | Bucciarati: The problem is, it doesn't. |
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| 02:00.13 | goingtomoonbrb | Bucciarati: But, I want it to. |
| 02:00.20 | Bucciarati | SuperNet: "invoke-rc.d apache2 start" |
| 02:00.27 | chealer | goingtomoonbrb: when you say non-repo source code, do you mean source not in Debian source package form? |
| 02:00.31 | gravity | goingtomoonbrb: You can make it in to a package |
| 02:00.33 | gravity | heh, good luck! |
| 02:00.41 | gravity | goingtomoonbrb: Steal the current firefox packaging and use it |
| 02:00.44 | gravity | Modify to your needs |
| 02:00.46 | SuperNet | addante:/home/steven# invoke-rc.d apache2 start |
| 02:00.46 | SuperNet | Starting web server: Apache2(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 |
| 02:00.46 | SuperNet | no listening sockets available, shutting down |
| 02:00.46 | SuperNet | Unable to open logs |
| 02:00.46 | SuperNet | invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed. |
| 02:00.47 | SuperNet | addante:/home/steven# |
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| 02:00.51 | gravity | That's not an easy one though |
| 02:00.52 | chealer | goingtomoonbrb: note that you would probably be wasting your time |
| 02:00.53 | Nopalin | i do sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev -t unstable, and apt fails on download packages that the are not more on repositories... so how i tell apt to download latest version of that packages? |
| 02:00.56 | SuperNet | hrmm |
| 02:00.59 | SuperNet | what does that mean |
| 02:01.18 | abrotman | too hard .. went to xorg? |
| 02:01.19 | goingtomoonbrb | gravity: You mean, get the repo source, then steal the control file from that and modify it? |
| 02:01.20 | Nopalin | goingtomoonbrb: no repo has that packages, |
| 02:01.22 | Bucciarati | SuperNet: you have it already running.. restart it |
| 02:01.28 | chealer | Nopalin: did you update your package lists recently? |
| 02:01.28 | SuperNet | how? |
| 02:01.38 | Nopalin | chealer: yes, every day |
| 02:01.39 | gravity | goingtomoonbrb: The repo source? |
| 02:01.41 | Sonny | hi I have configured my synaptics touch pad... but the tapping still not work, which one is the option that I have to enable? |
| 02:01.41 | SuperNet | i put restart |
| 02:01.44 | SuperNet | still nothing |
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| 02:01.52 | ben | hey again folks |
| 02:01.57 | goingtomoonbrb | gravity: like, "apt-get source (package)" |
| 02:01.58 | Bucciarati | supernet: replace start with restart |
| 02:02.04 | gravity | goingtomoonbrb: Right |
| 02:02.15 | goingtomoonbrb | gravity: hmm. That's a little over my head |
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| 02:02.19 | goingtomoonbrb | I'm still basically a noob :P |
| 02:02.20 | gravity | goingtomoonbrb: You want to modify whatever is necessary, first and foremost the debian/changelog for your version |
| 02:02.24 | gravity | goingtomoonbrb: Ok |
| 02:02.28 | goingtomoonbrb | Oh well. |
| 02:02.32 | goingtomoonbrb | That's life I guess ^^; |
| 02:03.07 | chealer | Nopalin: if you really update them every day, zlib 1.2.3-10 should be gone since a week |
| 02:03.10 | SuperNet | Bucciarati, same error |
| 02:03.13 | ben | why would apt-get resolve all addresses to 10.0.0.0 even though all other web is working properly? |
| 02:03.24 | gravity | goingtomoonbrb: Well, if you change your mind there's excellent packaging tutorials on the debian-women wiki that explain the process. There's also the maint-guide package, but it's not as good as the d-w stuff |
| 02:03.25 | goingtomoonbrb | ben: Someone else just asked the same question :o |
| 02:03.36 | ben | erm, yeah my nick won't allow me in |
| 02:03.38 | Bucciarati | SuperNet: and with stop ? |
| 02:03.52 | Nopalin | chealer: hmmm well, let me try again |
| 02:04.01 | SuperNet | Stopping web server: Apache2 ... no pidfile found! not running?. |
| 02:04.33 | Nopalin | chealer: well i think your are on right... it is downloading =) |
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| 02:05.12 | Bucciarati | SuperNet: then find out what is using your port 80 and stop it |
| 02:05.22 | SuperNet | i found out |
| 02:05.23 | ben | goingtomoonbrb: was the question answered? |
| 02:05.25 | SuperNet | ok i started it |
| 02:05.56 | SuperNet | now... how do i add an ip and add a vhost? i own chicagomaximaclub.net and have an ip for it. so what is the best way to get this? thanks i dont get apache2 yet |
| 02:06.38 | SuperNet | i put it in apache2.conf |
| 02:06.53 | SuperNet | but it isn't working for some odd reason, and thank u again for your help |
| 02:07.14 | abrotman | did you try asking #apache? |
| 02:07.32 | SuperNet | no one answes me there |
| 02:07.35 | abrotman | a club for nissan maximas ? |
| 02:07.40 | SuperNet | yes it is |
| 02:07.51 | abrotman | brb .. gotta go pee my pants laughing |
| 02:08.00 | SuperNet | wtf? |
| 02:08.02 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:08.17 | abrotman | how many sites does the server host? |
| 02:08.25 | SuperNet | well will ne 3 |
| 02:08.26 | abrotman | and does it require SSL ? |
| 02:08.30 | SuperNet | no ssl |
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| 02:08.37 | abrotman | you can do name based vhosts then |
| 02:08.40 | SuperNet | i have 3 different 3 ips for 3 different domains |
| 02:08.45 | curt | just because you have the domain in apache doesn't mean dns says where it is |
| 02:08.55 | SuperNet | no dns knows its there |
| 02:09.03 | SuperNet | its already pointing to the ip |
| 02:09.06 | abrotman | SuperNet: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/ |
| 02:10.18 | SuperNet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:10.44 | Virtual | how much CPU is normal for X.Org to use ? |
| 02:10.54 | abrotman | depends on the CPU |
| 02:11.00 | SuperNet | anyone know |
| 02:11.06 | Virtual | abrotman: Intel Pentium 4 1.6 Ghrtz |
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| 02:11.50 | abrotman | probably a small amount unless you're actively doing something |
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| 02:13.27 | Virtual | abrotman: well I have 2 bittornado, 1 amule, 1 gimp, 1 kvirc and 1 konsole and now 1 firefox and its using 15%, justa moment ago I was having same but also XMMS and it was using 25% or so and wouldn`t go down, I restarted X and now its using 15%, this started to happen I think after I have changed the monitor of my desktop |
| 02:13.39 | curt | SuperNet, which domain is it the smallco or the maxima one? |
| 02:14.19 | goingtomoonbrb | Virtual: Bittorrent and bittorrent-related apps use a lot of CPU when they're running activly. |
| 02:14.38 | Virtual | goingtomoonbrb: yeah, the apps but not X.Org ? |
| 02:14.48 | goingtomoonbrb | Oh. I dunno... |
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| 02:14.49 | witch | has anybody mounted /dev/sda12 using autofs? -It is a mac partitioned disk |
| 02:15.04 | goingtomoonbrb | witch: Do you know the file system? |
| 02:15.11 | witch | xfs |
| 02:15.16 | goingtomoonbrb | Hmm. |
| 02:15.40 | goingtomoonbrb | I know for iPods, it's usually hfs, hfs+, or vfat |
| 02:15.46 | witch | I can mount the mac partition as root but not the other behind it |
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| 02:15.57 | SuperNet | Ok guys, how do I add more then 1 ip to my system? |
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| 02:16.11 | abrotman | IP aliasing |
| 02:16.12 | witch | as user I have no luck at all while mounting a smaller firewire disk works fine as user |
| 02:16.20 | SuperNet | what config file is that |
| 02:16.48 | curt | SuperNet, You are using Debian right? |
| 02:17.04 | SuperNet | correct |
| 02:17.10 | mrec | does anyone know an application for piping audio data from one device to another one? something like sox? |
| 02:17.14 | abrotman | !tell SuperNet about interfaces |
| 02:17.16 | goingtomoonbrb | SuperNet: Are you adding a local intranet IP or an internet IP? |
| 02:17.32 | SuperNet | public ips |
| 02:17.37 | goingtomoonbrb | Oh. |
| 02:17.46 | goingtomoonbrb | Public IPs will probably have to be done through your ISP. |
| 02:17.59 | SuperNet | I have them, i just need to tell the OS what they are |
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| 02:18.01 | goingtomoonbrb | Your private network IP can be changed, but not your public one. |
| 02:18.04 | goingtomoonbrb | Oh. |
| 02:18.06 | goingtomoonbrb | Nevermind then :o |
| 02:18.12 | Bucciarati | SuperNet: iproute |
| 02:18.36 | SuperNet | Bucciarati not found |
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| 02:18.41 | jason___ | hi |
| 02:18.44 | SuperNet | Bucciarati command not found |
| 02:19.12 | Bucciarati | SuperNet: you already know about "apt-get install", right? |
| 02:19.27 | SuperNet | Yes, I just need to install these other ips |
| 02:19.33 | SuperNet | i am in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:19.42 | SuperNet | do i just copy and past and edit the ip |
| 02:19.50 | abrotman | you read the man page |
| 02:20.01 | SuperNet | i am there |
| 02:20.02 | curt | you really need to read the man for interfaces |
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| 02:20.27 | Bucciarati | about man pages.. the sources.list(5) couldn't make me understand how to use ssh repos .. |
| 02:20.37 | SuperNet | thanks for everyones help so far |
| 02:20.41 | SuperNet | really helping me and learn |
| 02:20.48 | SuperNet | so what is the best way to install the ips? |
| 02:20.51 | SuperNet | or add |
| 02:21.01 | Bucciarati | am i the only one trying to use ssh for apt repositories ? |
| 02:21.06 | abrotman | you read the man page .. man 5 interfaces |
| 02:21.08 | Azar | Bucciarati: you mean about apt sources.list? |
| 02:21.16 | Bucciarati | Azar: yes |
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| 02:21.26 | Azar | Bucciarati: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/concise-apt-get-dpkg-primer-for-new.html |
| 02:21.35 | Bucciarati | something like "deb ssh://user@host:/path/to/repo .." |
| 02:21.38 | SuperNet | hrmm no one can tell me the 123 way |
| 02:21.44 | abrotman | !fish |
| 02:21.44 | dpkg | fish is probably FISHFISHFISH! DO THE FISH DANCE! "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate, instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, why not read some docs, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered?, or http://edulinux.homeunix.org/fish.html |
| 02:21.47 | Azar | Bucciarati: read that |
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| 02:22.06 | abrotman | SuperNet: if you cannot read .. please reconsider running Debian |
| 02:22.19 | madona | hi |
| 02:22.28 | SuperNet | the server is at the co-location already |
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| 02:23.04 | madona | I need to send EOF via text to a command line program.. .. how do I write something to do what Ctrl+D does? |
| 02:23.06 | dn4 | Does anyone know where there is a good n64 emulator, my n64 seems to have gone bad |
| 02:23.21 | madona | I meant Ctrl +C !!! |
| 02:23.23 | Bucciarati | Azar: thanks but that didn't tell me anything new .. :| |
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| 02:23.27 | Stevie | madona: that's SIGINT |
| 02:23.34 | SuperNet | grrr |
| 02:23.37 | Stevie | madona: kill -INT <pid> |
| 02:23.38 | madona | Stive..thanks |
| 02:23.39 | SuperNet | no one can tell me:( |
| 02:23.45 | Azar | Bucciarati: I have no idea about obtaining packages via ssh.. |
| 02:23.58 | karsten | dn4: n65? |
| 02:24.06 | karsten | dn4: er, n64? |
| 02:24.09 | Azar | Bucciarati: ftp or http... I never heard of ssh for that task |
| 02:24.11 | goingtomoonbrb | So, !fish is a nice way of saying RTFM right? |
| 02:24.12 | goingtomoonbrb | Heh heh |
| 02:24.14 | goingtomoonbrb | Or UTFG |
| 02:24.15 | goingtomoonbrb | :D |
| 02:24.25 | madona | Steve Im useing wget -i - `some program output widout EOF` |
| 02:24.37 | madona | Steve: so wget does not end |
| 02:24.38 | Virtual | is there any command I can use so that X could recognize my monitor specifications automaticly like when you install X.Org it does that and add them to xorg.conf |
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| 02:24.46 | Stevie | wget would not start, madona |
| 02:24.48 | karsten | Virtual: discover, IIUC. |
| 02:25.06 | madona | Steve : Yes Is is starting |
| 02:25.15 | Bucciarati | Azar: i always used http sources too |
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| 02:25.21 | karsten | dn4: apt-cache search nintendo # if I understand you correctly. |
| 02:25.32 | Bucciarati | but need ssh for some special customer installations |
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| 02:25.35 | Virtual | karsten: those are two different things? |
| 02:25.51 | Bucciarati | and access to private repositories |
| 02:26.12 | karsten | !IIUC |
| 02:26.12 | dpkg | it has been said that iiuc is "If I understand correctly" |
| 02:26.18 | Azar | Bucciarati: the .sources.list is where you assign url to archives pertaining to your distribution from where apt-get downloads and install packages, you are not clear on what you need to ask |
| 02:26.18 | madona | Steve: I didn want to say some program outoput . The correct phrase there is som program invokation |
| 02:26.26 | karsten | !tell Virtual about discover |
| 02:26.37 | SuperNet | Bucciarati any idea? |
| 02:26.47 | karsten | !tell Virtual about setup x |
| 02:27.11 | Stevie | madona: your shell (probably bash) would not start wget until it had the full command line |
| 02:27.28 | Stevie | madona: if the `some program here` never finished, bash would never get the full command line |
| 02:27.33 | Azar | Bucciarati: I would guess you can use wget to install packages not provided by apt... but then you are on your own in fixing dependencies |
| 02:27.34 | Bucciarati | Azar: i am looking for the format to use to specify ssh options in the sources.list line.. like "deb ssh://username@server:port/path/to/repo sarge main" (that ain't work of course) |
| 02:28.05 | Azar | Bucciarati: use ftp for that |
| 02:28.07 | madona | Stevie: wget is starting because the program output contains \r |
| 02:28.21 | Stevie | madona: You are mistaken |
| 02:28.43 | madona | Stivie: \r betwen URLs |
| 02:28.54 | madona | Stevie: \r betwen URLs |
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| 02:29.00 | Bucciarati | Azar: i really need to use ssh :) need strong crypto and serious authentication |
| 02:29.13 | Bucciarati | for those private repositories at least |
| 02:29.23 | Azar | Bucciarati: I would not know if ssh will do a download job for you |
| 02:29.30 | Stevie | madona: If you are actually typing what you said here, wget will NEVER start |
| 02:29.40 | Red_Cloud | I have installed debian etch and KDE. Whenever I go to logout, I do not get a dialogue with the option to turn off my computer. Have I not installed a package that I need? |
| 02:30.02 | Bucciarati | yes it will. apt supports the "ssh" method (search for "ssh" in sources.list(5)) |
| 02:30.19 | Bucciarati | but it seems nobody is using it, so there is few documentation available .. |
| 02:31.18 | Bucciarati | also try "/usr/lib/apt/methods/ssh" |
| 02:31.19 | madona | Stevie: well It does: It's starting . The problem Is to stop it. |
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| 02:31.31 | karsten | Bloody hotbuttons actually work. |
| 02:31.45 | Stevie | madona: Then you are NOT doing what you said you're doing |
| 02:31.50 | madona | Stevie: I just need to know how the EOF signal is expresed in text |
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| 02:32.09 | karsten | madona: ^D |
| 02:32.14 | karsten | madona: man ascii |
| 02:32.18 | Stevie | madona: You are very confused. EOF signal is not expressed as any special text. It is expressed by is absence |
| 02:32.26 | karsten | Stevie: Um. Not. |
| 02:32.38 | curt | SuperNet, try and read this file > gunzip -c network-interfaces.gz < it has some examples you could probably experiment with. |
| 02:32.52 | dondelelcaro | Stevie: ^D is generally EOF. |
| 02:33.01 | karsten | Stevie: EOF is ^D (ctrl-D). |
| 02:33.13 | SuperNet | curt, where do i get that file |
| 02:33.19 | curt | Supaplex, Oh .. it's here in the interfaces docs /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples |
| 02:33.41 | Supaplex | for sure |
| 02:33.59 | karsten | Stevie: ... aka Oct 004 / dec 4 / hex 0x04 |
| 02:34.00 | Virtual | karsten: thank you. |
| 02:34.14 | SuperNet | i am willing to pay in paypal if someone can help |
| 02:34.14 | karsten | Virtual: NP. Working? |
| 02:34.50 | Supaplex | if tab/nick completion would just favor your recently addressed people, and resently spoken people above lazy matching :) |
| 02:34.56 | karsten | SuperNet: /usr/share/doc/interfaces/ |
| 02:35.21 | karsten | SuperNet: er, /usr/share/doc/ifupdown |
| 02:35.23 | Virtual | karsten: dunno yet, haven't restarted X.Org, will soon, the thing is that I changed my monitor and I wanted to set X.Org after this monitor, do you know if dual monitor is possible under Linux and in X.Org, I have two exits on my video card and I would like to try both my monitors |
| 02:35.30 | dondelelcaro | Virtual: yes, it's possible. |
| 02:35.42 | Azar | Bucciarati: read man sources.list |
| 02:35.43 | goingtomoonbrb | Virtual: It can be "fun" to set up though. |
| 02:35.46 | goingtomoonbrb | XD |
| 02:35.47 | karsten | SuperNet: man interfaces. Or cd /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/ and read files there. |
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| 02:36.10 | Virtual | dondelelcaro: and what result do you get, i never tried dual monitor, do you get same image on both monitors or ? |
| 02:36.10 | karsten | Virtual: Dual-head is most definitely possible. |
| 02:36.14 | curt | SuperNet, Not interested, I come here to Learn and Help others. I have a regular job. |
| 02:36.16 | karsten | Virtual: Not if you set it up right ;-) |
| 02:36.22 | dn4 | so ther eis no nintendo 64 emulator for linux? |
| 02:36.28 | madona | Stevie: You are confused. Try this $ wget -i - `echo "www.google.com/images/hp0.gif"` |
| 02:36.31 | Virtual | karsten: if you set it up right... then what would you get? |
| 02:36.36 | Bucciarati | Azar: i have readt it. it dedicates three (3) lines to ssh, and no mention of options |
| 02:36.40 | madona | Stevie: thanks .. |
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| 02:36.51 | karsten | dn4: There are a number of Nintendo emulators, not sure which specifically. /msg dpkg search, find packages, read descriptions. |
| 02:36.52 | curt | dondelelcaro, those aren't pics of you are they , eeeeghh |
| 02:36.59 | madona | karsten: thanks |
| 02:37.04 | dn4 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/daedalus-n64/ |
| 02:37.04 | karsten | Virtual: A continguous display across two or more monitors. |
| 02:37.05 | dn4 | found this one |
| 02:37.07 | karsten | madona: NP |
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| 02:37.39 | SuperNet | ok i am reading |
| 02:37.44 | SuperNet | man interfaces i still don't get it |
| 02:37.47 | SuperNet | ifup ? |
| 02:38.06 | Supaplex | ifup <interface> |
| 02:38.11 | witch | sorry, connections was down |
| 02:38.14 | karsten | SuperNet: The package is called ifupdown. The file is called interfaces. Man section 5. 'man 5 interfaces' |
| 02:38.21 | Virtual | karsten: that would be nice I guess if I had two or more monitors of the same size... but I have a 17" LCD and a 21" CRT :) |
| 02:38.23 | witch | have there been any answers to my question? |
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| 02:38.44 | madona | karsten: I just tryed before ^D but $ wget -i - `echo "www.google.com/images/hp0.gif^D"` Doesn't work!! |
| 02:39.03 | Supaplex | witch: not since you disconnected |
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| 02:39.13 | Azar | Bucciarati: I do not want to say you lie, but there are more than 3 lines regarding rsh,ssh... and it looks pretty explanatory |
| 02:39.18 | Stevie | madona: Because that's not the right way to do it! |
| 02:39.28 | karsten | SuperNet: Define the additional interface(s) in /etc/network/interfaces, either as seperate devices (eth0, eth1, eth2, etc.) or IP aliases (eth0:1, eth0:2, eth0:3, etc.). |
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| 02:39.35 | Bucciarati | Azar: i'll read harder :| |
| 02:39.41 | karsten | Virtual: Can still happen. You specify display sizes. |
| 02:39.45 | nicolas__ | !dpkg marillat public key |
| 02:39.47 | Azar | Bucciarati: what commands are used to access files on the remote? |
| 02:39.48 | madona | Stevie: Could you give me a tip? |
| 02:39.53 | karsten | madona: WTF are you trying to do? |
| 02:39.58 | Stevie | madona: What do you think that 'wget -i - `echo "www.google.com/images/hp0.gif^D"` ' means? |
| 02:40.00 | Bucciarati | dd and find :) |
| 02:40.03 | Supaplex | madona: never pet a burning dog |
| 02:40.05 | Bucciarati | aza: dd and find :) |
| 02:40.07 | witch | Supaplex: the only anser I have seen before was the question, if I knew the file system |
| 02:40.13 | Bucciarati | Azar: dd and find :) |
| 02:40.14 | SuperNet | says inorning |
| 02:40.20 | madona | Hey... |
| 02:40.28 | Azar | Bucciarati: and there are examples below |
| 02:40.30 | karsten | madona: And why not: wget 'http://www.google.com/images/hp0.gif' ? |
| 02:40.31 | madona | Im trying to download some images |
| 02:40.42 | curt | dondelelcaro, these setups are sweet, not really an advertisement but I have a one 2130 > http://www.viewsonic.com/multipanelsetup/index.htm |
| 02:40.44 | Stevie | madona: How about you answer my question? |
| 02:40.52 | karsten | !sunday |
| 02:40.52 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 02:40.59 | madona | because Its not an echo what I have inside the `` !! |
| 02:41.02 | Virtual | I would like some advise about what video player you think its the best? I curently use vlc but maybe there is something better? |
| 02:41.22 | Stevie | madona? |
| 02:41.22 | karsten | Virtual: I generally use xine and/or mplayer. |
| 02:41.25 | Bucciarati | Azar: examples for file: and http: methods, none for rsh/ssh .. |
| 02:41.49 | SuperNet | do i need the auto in there |
| 02:42.06 | SuperNet | ok here is my name question |
| 02:42.10 | Virtual | karsten: do you have any experience with game emulating under linux ? |
| 02:42.12 | madona | Stevie: I think It means... the URL followed by something that has to be interpreated like the "I have reached EOF" to the wget -i - |
| 02:42.16 | karsten | SuperNet: If you want the interface to configure automatically at boot, yes. |
| 02:42.17 | karsten | Virtual: No. |
| 02:42.26 | SuperNet | since i only have 1 nic do i need eth0 or eth1 |
| 02:42.40 | Supaplex | xargs++ |
| 02:42.41 | Stevie | madona: What do you think 'wget -i -' means? |
| 02:42.42 | karsten | SuperNet: Likely eth0 |
| 02:42.54 | karsten | SuperNet: 'ifconfig -a' will show all currently recognized network interfaces. |
| 02:43.08 | SuperNet | ok so i use |
| 02:43.08 | SuperNet | eth0:1 |
| 02:43.09 | karsten | SuperNet: ... meaning you have both the HW and the kernel drivers installed. |
| 02:43.17 | karsten | !tell SuperNet about enter |
| 02:43.35 | madona | Stevie: I know what it is.. It is download every URL readed from std input until an EOF |
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| 02:43.43 | SuperNet | do i add |
| 02:43.49 | unstable | dondelelcaro: gpg keys are BADSIG what you do apt-get update or apt-get install something. |
| 02:43.51 | unstable | dondelelcaro: type apt-get update now |
| 02:43.52 | Stevie | madona: Okay. What do you think 'standard input' is reading from? |
| 02:43.52 | SuperNet | auto eth0:1 |
| 02:43.56 | SuperNet | or no |
| 02:44.32 | madona | Stevie: I think I'm standing your point |
| 02:44.51 | Stevie | I think I didn't understand that last statement |
| 02:45.06 | madona | Stevie: I will try $ echo "URL" | wget -i |
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| 02:45.16 | abrotman | unstable: read the topic |
| 02:45.24 | andy_ | hello |
| 02:45.27 | Stevie | madona: An excellent idea :) |
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| 02:45.51 | SuperNet | hey my bcast is wrong |
| 02:45.52 | SuperNet | what do i do |
| 02:45.53 | andy_ | is carsten on at the time |
| 02:46.06 | Azar | Bucciarati: because everywhere you look, google, NOWHERE say you have to set a ssh url in sources.list |
| 02:46.12 | madona | Stevie: I will try $ echo "URL" | wget -i Does not work |
| 02:46.33 | Azar | Bucciarati: set a deb ftp or a deb http then use the commands for ssh |
| 02:46.34 | Stevie | madona: Aren't you missing the last '-' after -i ? |
| 02:46.42 | Bucciarati | Azar: that's what made me understand that noone uses it :) |
| 02:46.45 | abrotman | prolly |
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| 02:47.27 | SuperNet | ok WTF |
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| 02:47.38 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:47.40 | SuperNet | my ip is there now i don't think apache is pointing it correct |
| 02:47.48 | madona | Stevie: - after -i means standard input instead of filename |
| 02:48.11 | Stevie | madona: yes. Do you know what standard input is? |
| 02:48.17 | karsten | SuperNet: Please RTFM interfaces(5) |
| 02:48.37 | SuperNet | huh |
| 02:48.43 | Bucciarati | Azar: ok nevermind i'll dive into apt-get source |
| 02:48.57 | curt | SuperNet, ok, you know the first suggestion you got, you can run multiple domains from the same ip <virtualhost someip> (httpd.conf) then if you interfaces already have one configured you can just use that. |
| 02:48.58 | madona | Stevie: I have an Idea.. .. I just tryed with the - and didnt worked.. I dont think the - must go |
| 02:48.59 | karsten | SuperNet: WRT your auto question. Manpage addresses that specifically. |
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| 02:49.16 | karsten | SuperNet: I could read it back to you but that's not an effective use of time. |
| 02:49.19 | Bucciarati | or setup an http-to-ssh cgi gateway (owwwwwmfg) |
| 02:49.30 | SuperNet | apache2 has it in the config file |
| 02:49.33 | witch | madona: why don't you just try Stevie's suggestion? |
| 02:49.54 | curt | SuperNet, /join #flood |
| 02:49.59 | madona | witch: I did it without succed |
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| 02:50.39 | witch | madona: I am quite sure you did not "wget URL" |
| 02:50.42 | madona | Stevie and witch: $ echo "URL" | wget -i - Does not work |
| 02:50.55 | witch | that was not his suggestion |
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| 02:51.58 | Stevie | madona: Really? |
| 02:52.04 | madona | witch: Stevie madona: Aren't you missing the last '-' after -i ? |
| 02:52.06 | Supaplex | madona: echo http://www.domain.com | wget -i - |
| 02:52.16 | madona | Stevie: really |
| 02:52.25 | Supaplex | madona: or echo http://www.domain.com | xargs wget |
| 02:52.40 | abrotman | why are you using echo at all? |
| 02:52.51 | Holborn | good question :) |
| 02:53.19 | Supaplex | they like the hard way |
| 02:53.19 | abrotman | !uuoe |
| 02:53.19 | Stevie | http://rafb.net/paste/results/NUZ6Lo96.html |
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| 02:53.25 | Stevie | abrotman: Madona is using a program to pipe the url lists to wget. Echo is just for testing. |
| 02:53.26 | Bucciarati | Azar: but ignore me when in a few hours i'll repost the question on this channel in case someone else has ideas ;) |
| 02:53.35 | Stevie | madona: http://rafb.net/paste/results/NUZ6Lo96.html |
| 02:53.36 | abrotman | Stevie: wget -f ? |
| 02:53.51 | witch | sorry, it was karsten |
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| 02:54.07 | madona | Stevie: I will look in to your link. Thanks |
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| 02:54.14 | Stevie | wget: invalid option -- f |
| 02:54.22 | Stevie | abrotman: what wget are you using? |
| 02:54.35 | abrotman | oh .. sorry .. it's -i for a file :) |
| 02:54.51 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.55 | Azar | err wrong channel |
| 02:55.05 | abrotman | obviously |
| 02:55.10 | Azar | sorry |
| 02:55.11 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 02:55.27 | Supaplex | !lart the debian rip-off |
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| 02:55.45 | Stevie | lol |
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| 02:55.58 | abrotman | !tell kevsthabes about root |
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| 02:56.18 | Azar | luckily I did not type my root password here by mistake |
| 02:56.41 | abrotman | you could .. like .. change it |
| 02:56.50 | madona | Stevie: WOW $ echo 'www.google.com/images/hp0.gif' | wget -i - |
| 02:56.50 | madona | -: Invalid URL www.google.com/images/hp0.gif: Unsupported scheme |
| 02:56.50 | madona | No URLs found in -. |
| 02:56.59 | Supaplex | madona: use http:// |
| 02:57.07 | Azar | yes indeed but what a shame.. |
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| 02:57.19 | madona | Supaplex: thanks |
| 02:57.21 | SuperNet | how do i enable php |
| 02:57.35 | SuperNet | vBulletin 3.5.4 requires that the MySQL functions in PHP be available. Please ask your host to enable this. |
| 02:57.35 | abrotman | apache1 or 2 ? |
| 02:57.40 | Supaplex | perl -e 'use PHP' ;) |
| 02:58.02 | SuperNet | what do u think that means |
| 02:58.10 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:58.10 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 02:58.19 | Supaplex | !tell SuperNet -about search |
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| 02:59.12 | abrotman | like that'll work |
| 02:59.25 | SuperNet | i didnt get anything |
| 02:59.29 | curt | SuperNet, you might try apachectl -v |
| 02:59.47 | SuperNet | curt |
| 02:59.48 | curt | SuperNet, or apache2ctl -v |
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| 02:59.50 | SuperNet | file not foind |
| 03:00.06 | SuperNet | apache is installed |
| 03:00.13 | abrotman | !search |
| 03:00.14 | dpkg | search is, like, try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
| 03:00.14 | curt | with the "2" |
| 03:00.26 | FarSe3r | Hello, what is the name of that app wich you can import windows inf files and use drivers for your printer under linux?? |
| 03:00.27 | SuperNet | Server version: Apache/2.0.54 |
| 03:00.27 | SuperNet | Server built: Sep 5 2005 11:15:09 |
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| 03:00.36 | curt | Supaplex, a2enmod |
| 03:00.39 | Virtual | I have a Nokia 7710 phone, i would like to get it to work with linux, at least file transfer or anything, at the moment I only have a DKU-2 cable with it but if there is no other way i`ll buy a bluetooth emulation device for my desktop but I want to know how cand I get the phone to work with the computer |
| 03:00.43 | curt | crap |
| 03:00.46 | Supaplex | :) |
| 03:00.50 | SuperNet | whats wrong |
| 03:00.55 | curt | Supaplex, sorry about that |
| 03:00.57 | FarSe3r | is it ndiswrapper? or its that just for wlan? |
| 03:01.04 | curt | SuperNet, a2enmod |
| 03:01.09 | FarSe3r | -t |
| 03:01.12 | Supaplex | SuperNet: his defunct nick completion, that's all. :) |
| 03:01.14 | abrotman | you're assuming php is installed |
| 03:01.22 | SuperNet | yes i am |
| 03:01.42 | unstable | tetrinet anyone? |
| 03:01.44 | curt | Supaplex, use a2enmod with no options and see if it's listed |
| 03:01.56 | SuperNet | would php4 |
| 03:01.58 | SuperNet | be it? |
| 03:02.10 | abrotman | or you could ANSWER the questions people ask you |
| 03:02.23 | abrotman | !tell SuperNet about search |
| 03:02.29 | abrotman | !tell SuperNet about grounding |
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| 03:02.36 | FarSe3r | anyone know? |
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| 03:03.05 | dvs | FarSe3r: I'd just use CUPS |
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| 03:03.24 | SuperNet | Module name? php4 |
| 03:03.24 | SuperNet | This module is already enabled! |
| 03:03.24 | SuperNet | addante:/var/www/maxima/includes# |
| 03:03.31 | SuperNet | ok i am getting really upset |
| 03:03.35 | abrotman | php4-mysql |
| 03:03.51 | curt | !tell SuperNet -about enter |
| 03:03.53 | SuperNet | same thing |
| 03:03.54 | abrotman | which you would know if you had even *tried* apt-cache search php mysql .. like the bot said |
| 03:04.00 | SuperNet | This module is already enabled! |
| 03:04.05 | abrotman | NO SHIT |
| 03:04.07 | abrotman | pay attention |
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| 03:04.34 | SuperNet | I am, what is going on |
| 03:04.39 | abrotman | !tell kevsthabes about root |
| 03:04.51 | folial_ | thanks for help... going to reboot with new kernel... |
| 03:04.52 | witch | SuperNet: package not apache module, I think |
| 03:04.53 | folial_ | bye!! |
| 03:04.53 | abrotman | kevsthabes: you cannot speak here as root user |
| 03:04.57 | FarSe3r | dvs, ok. saw a really easy good for setting up your printer with this app, but lost the name... saw its compatible with cups though |
| 03:05.21 | FarSe3r | dvs, guide |
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| 03:05.45 | abrotman | !tell chaoskilla about root |
| 03:05.57 | curt | kevsthabes, pay attention |
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| 03:06.24 | Azar | maybe they are just bots |
| 03:06.38 | dvs | FarSe3r: guide? The web interface was easy enough for me to figure out. |
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| 03:07.12 | liable | grrr, if i run xsane net:192.168.1.3 i can scan, if i just open xsane, it doesnt find the scanner. (it is in net.conf) |
| 03:07.14 | FarSe3r | dvs, mkay :) |
| 03:07.15 | kevsthabes | ah.. i forgot i had this one already installed.. |
| 03:07.43 | nozzle | is there an irc channel for using ipods with linux? #gtkpod is a desert |
| 03:07.45 | kevsthabes | sorry about that guys... My home user wont log into anything. keeps claiming out of space (which is false).. |
| 03:07.48 | FarSe3r | dvs, no i mean for that other program.. you just import an inf file from windows, done. |
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| 03:08.02 | dvs | FarSe3r: I have no idea what that is. |
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| 03:08.13 | Varanger | hello |
| 03:08.40 | FarSe3r | dvs, :( |
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| 03:08.45 | bhearsum | anyone for xfrisk? |
| 03:10.34 | curt | now that att took over sbc I think I can get the staic dsl package here at home :) |
| 03:10.54 | kevsthabes | If i want to have debian on a different hd, do i need to reinstall?(example: running debian on hdb, but i want to move it to hda instead) |
| 03:11.06 | witch | So nobody seems to have an idea why i cannot mount the partition with autofs? |
| 03:12.07 | dvs | kevsthabes: How old is the install? |
| 03:12.09 | curt | kevsthabes, you could mirror it over there. |
| 03:12.28 | SuperNet | hey my locate isnt working |
| 03:12.30 | SuperNet | any idea why |
| 03:12.35 | curt | updatedb |
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| 03:13.27 | karsten | kevsthabes: You can simply copy the data over. tar, rsync, cpio, whatever. |
| 03:13.36 | maheem | hi2all |
| 03:13.44 | kevsthabes | then set grub to load hda instead? |
| 03:13.58 | karsten | kevsthabes: Yeah, that could be useful ;-) |
| 03:14.05 | dvs | kevsthabes: And fix /etc/fstab and all other references to the drive |
| 03:14.17 | witch | and change the fstab |
| 03:14.31 | karsten | kevsthabes: ... note that if you're using grub, you can edit your boot stanza first, test out the new config. And what witch said. |
| 03:14.45 | kevsthabes | thanks guys:) preciate it.. |
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| 03:15.19 | witch | night! |
| 03:15.24 | kevsthabes | gonna go do that now, just hope i backed up all the files i needed before it.. hda is my windows drive.. finally dropping it:) |
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| 03:15.37 | mynullvoid | I got error when installing vhcs - ERROR 1045: Access denied for user" 'vhcs2@localhost' (Using password: YES) E: E: Can't update database structure 256 |
| 03:15.52 | fiveiron | bleh |
| 03:16.04 | fiveiron | ok.. is xorg 6.9 a package that i can install on stable? |
| 03:16.25 | dvs | fiveiron: it might be in backports.org |
| 03:16.36 | fiveiron | aight |
| 03:16.37 | fiveiron | thx |
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| 03:17.22 | dvs | yah! |
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| 03:18.10 | fiveiron | my goal is to get the latest xorg up, get gnome up, get xgl up, and get wine up |
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| 03:19.18 | FarSe3r | dvs, havin' about of trouble finding it. got 5 usb ports.. is there a way to scan them? |
| 03:19.35 | SuperNet | how long does it take for the server 2 reboot |
| 03:20.04 | dvs | FarSe3r: lsusb? |
| 03:20.13 | FarSe3r | dvs, *doh* ;) |
| 03:20.14 | curt | SuperNet, why would you want to do that? ?? |
| 03:20.29 | SuperNet | yea i dont know |
| 03:20.32 | SuperNet | its not comming up |
| 03:20.35 | fiveiron | kik |
| 03:20.35 | SuperNet | it past 3 min |
| 03:20.38 | fiveiron | err |
| 03:20.39 | fiveiron | lol |
| 03:20.43 | fiveiron | fingers were off.... :-P |
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| 03:21.36 | curt | SuperNet, could be that interfaces file you where editing.... |
| 03:22.08 | dak | anyone know if theirs sid packages for libc5 like how potato had the old compat-package ? |
| 03:22.38 | curt | check pdo.debian.net? |
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| 03:22.56 | abrotman | packages.d.o is back |
| 03:23.26 | dak | i have |
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| 03:23.32 | dany | hola |
| 03:23.34 | dak | but i havent found any for sid |
| 03:23.36 | abrotman | !es |
| 03:23.36 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:23.55 | abrotman | dak: i doubt they exist .. libc5 is really really old |
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| 03:24.10 | dak | well i think its why civ ctp wont run |
| 03:24.17 | dak | it used to work fine a few years ago :p |
| 03:24.18 | abrotman | oh . i doubt it |
| 03:24.25 | abrotman | i think others still play it |
| 03:24.30 | dak | it segfaults on me |
| 03:24.33 | abrotman | with what? |
| 03:24.38 | dak | just segfault |
| 03:24.48 | abrotman | strace it |
| 03:24.59 | FarSe3r | dvs, Bus 004 Device 002: ID 03f0:2b17 Hewlett-Packard... /dev/usblp04 or 02 ? |
| 03:25.03 | dak | i dont have it installed atm but i figured cuz it was glib2.0 |
| 03:25.07 | dany | español |
| 03:25.12 | dany | alguien |
| 03:25.15 | dany | ??? |
| 03:25.15 | abrotman | dany: /join #debian-es |
| 03:27.17 | dak | hrm |
| 03:28.25 | Azar | what is "mirroring with rsync" ? |
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| 03:29.50 | Azar | "your Debian mirror will drop back from 170GB to about 90-100GB in a few weeks time" |
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| 03:30.40 | EmeraldCat | Hello. Could someone please tell me if this: http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/i386/linux/syscalls.master is in fact the _original_ Linux `syscalls.master' file. It says something about `FreeBSD/Linux Kernel Cross Reference' so I am not sure... |
| 03:31.01 | Azar | huh no more deb http:// or deb ftp:// ? now is rsync://ftp ? |
| 03:32.10 | Azar | The ftp.debian.org switchover will happen in a little over two weeks, |
| 03:32.13 | dondelelcaro | Azar: you don't care about that unless you're running a Debian mirror. |
| 03:32.33 | Azar | thank you dondelecaro, uh I thought it will affect us |
| 03:34.19 | EmeraldCat | Is there a kernel.org channel? |
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| 03:34.53 | dondelelcaro | EmeraldCat: not really, but try #kernel |
| 03:35.02 | liable | my net.conf supplies the adress of the scanner server, but xscan doesnt find it at start, but if i supply the address at xsane start up, it works. |
| 03:35.22 | Azar | bah so sad, June/July Woody goes to archives |
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| 03:36.35 | EruditeHermit | hey is anyone getting GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org testing Release: |
| 03:36.44 | EruditeHermit | errors when running apt-get update? |
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| 03:37.24 | maher | EruditeHermit: topic? |
| 03:37.48 | Gnea | maher: /topic has the answer :) |
| 03:37.48 | EruditeHermit | no, I have the keys |
| 03:37.54 | dvm1981 | EmeraldCat: I know that in 'xchat' there are an trick to find channels in the menu 'Window / channel list', i hope it help you |
| 03:38.36 | Gnea | EruditeHermit: try it several times, ftp.us.debian.org is 4 different hosts |
| 03:38.47 | dvs | !tell dak -about away |
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| 03:38.50 | EruditeHermit | Gnea: been trying it for a day |
| 03:39.05 | MatBoy | who is using horde here ? |
| 03:39.10 | Gnea | EruditeHermit: which branch are you using? |
| 03:39.14 | myren | does scp resume files? i'm 1 gig through a 2.8 gig file, and i really really need to setup a kbit/s limit, but i'm worried about control-c'ing the scp |
| 03:39.19 | EruditeHermit | Gnea: meaning? |
| 03:39.22 | Gnea | !tell MatBoy -about ask |
| 03:39.29 | Gnea | EruditeHermit: sarge, etch, sid |
| 03:39.30 | EruditeHermit | Gnea: testing? |
| 03:39.34 | Gnea | oh ok |
| 03:39.43 | Gnea | EruditeHermit: holdon asec |
| 03:39.44 | MatBoy | Gnea, I not stupid |
| 03:39.49 | EruditeHermit | Gnea: I get the same error on my sid box |
| 03:39.52 | MatBoy | I'm not !! |
| 03:40.21 | EmeraldCat | dvm1981: I'm using XiRCON actually...Thanks anyway, I am already in the #kernel channel. |
| 03:40.22 | Gnea | MatBoy: i'm sorry, were the words "you are a stupid" typed by me, in this terminal, to you? no. |
| 03:40.23 | MatBoy | !tell Gnea -about ask |
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| 03:40.51 | Gnea | MatBoy: chill your shit, please, and ask your real question about horde. |
| 03:41.17 | MatBoy | Gnea, If you want to help... help don't talk shit... sorry... I hate that kind of knowledge |
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| 03:41.19 | dvm1981 | EmeraldCat: An little tip about an product i use, i suppose that somethings similar is available in you're favoriete app. I have find usefull channels so :-) |
| 03:41.38 | Gnea | MatBoy: hey, that's the way it works around here. if you don't like it, get out. |
| 03:41.51 | MatBoy | Gnea, you talking like you own it here :p |
| 03:42.03 | MatBoy | Do you ? |
| 03:42.14 | Gnea | MatBoy: it's obvious you don't really need help, you're just looking for a fight. |
| 03:42.28 | Azar | Gnea stay aside, he is incitating you |
| 03:42.33 | MatBoy | It's a debian channel here.. so my question was quite right |
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| 03:42.41 | Bucciarati | MatBoy: will you ask your question ? |
| 03:42.42 | Azar | MatBoy I will answer you |
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| 03:42.53 | Gnea | Azar: he's a troll, and so i'm ignoring him now. |
| 03:42.53 | Azar | MatBoy: no I am not using horde |
| 03:42.56 | dvs | MatBoy: You never stated the problem |
| 03:43.02 | nse | I love debian! |
| 03:43.18 | Gnea | Azar: (he's stupid, too) |
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| 03:43.24 | inocentPC | I'm using Knoppix (debian's step son) and i have two problems i'd like some helped. |
| 03:43.25 | dak | hrm |
| 03:43.29 | EruditeHermit | Gnea: leave it out |
| 03:43.34 | jeebo | KDE installs automatically with Debian, correct? |
| 03:43.34 | EruditeHermit | Gnea: its not worth it |
| 03:43.40 | Azar | Gnea someone seems to pull your bells... be on the watch |
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| 03:43.46 | Gnea | EruditeHermit: yes, back to the real problem at hand |
| 03:43.46 | maher | jeebo: if you chose desktop from tasksel... |
| 03:43.49 | MatBoy | Gnea, indeed, not worth it... but I think you can realize it |
| 03:43.56 | MatBoy | It? horde specific... that? why |
| 03:44.04 | jeebo | huh |
| 03:44.07 | MatBoy | Bu I have found already someone |
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| 03:44.46 | Azar | jeebo I am not sure, I installed Debian but did not noticed if it offers kde or gnome at install... I use none |
| 03:45.06 | jeebo | I installed Debian using the NetInst CD, does KDE install automatically, or do I have to download/install it manually? |
| 03:45.19 | Gnea | EruditeHermit: hrm |
| 03:45.23 | maher | jeebo: run tasksel and choose desktop environment |
| 03:45.26 | Azar | jeebo, if it does not come, it is a breeze to use apt-get install.... |
| 03:45.27 | EruditeHermit | jeebo: you will need to download it |
| 03:45.37 | EruditeHermit | jeebo: netinst is minimal |
| 03:45.49 | dvm1981 | jeebo: The extra needed apps would be downloaded ... |
| 03:45.56 | EmeraldCat | inocentPC: first try the #knoppix channel; if no one helps you there, then come back here. |
| 03:45.59 | maher | jeebo: that will pull in a huge bunch of stuff, including most of kde |
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| 03:46.15 | inocentPC | thanks a lot. I'll try |
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| 03:47.04 | dvm1981 | !tell jeebo about install kde |
| 03:47.12 | EruditeHermit | when did the topic change |
| 03:47.23 | dvm1981 | !tell jeebo about install gnome |
| 03:47.43 | dvm1981 | jeebo: I know, no gnome, it's to show the meta packages ... |
| 03:48.03 | curt | EruditeHermit, Sun Mar 12 19:38:10 2006 =^_^= |
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| 03:48.44 | jayr168 | if I enable sound server in kde xmms cannot play mp3 |
| 03:48.45 | jayr168 | ? |
| 03:48.54 | jayr168 | I have debian 3.1 sarge |
| 03:48.56 | dvm1981 | EruditeHermit: It's noted on the end of the topic :-/ |
| 03:49.03 | robersonfox | stay, Orh, vufsh! |
| 03:49.07 | EruditeHermit | haha |
| 03:49.12 | curt | jayr168, is there some reason you need a sound server? |
| 03:49.32 | miguel | I have a problem with a BADSIG error from a Debian mirror |
| 03:49.35 | dvm1981 | jayr168: You're sound actually work with another app? |
| 03:49.41 | maheem | jayr: install alsa |
| 03:50.30 | jayr168 | I mean if I enable kde to sound when system events happen like maximizing |
| 03:50.41 | jayr168 | xmms says cant find audio device |
| 03:50.41 | liable | miguel: /topic |
| 03:50.47 | EruditeHermit | Gnea: apparently US is borked |
| 03:50.50 | EruditeHermit | Gnea: my mistake |
| 03:50.59 | EruditeHermit | Gnea: thanks |
| 03:51.07 | jayr168 | but If I disable sount system events xmms can play audio with no problem |
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| 03:51.32 | dvm1981 | jayr168: If you do in an console 'play <musicfile>', are there sound? |
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| 03:52.21 | jeebo | ok so how do I start tasksel exactly? :) |
| 03:52.48 | Azar | jayr168: for mp3 plugins try to read the xmms website |
| 03:52.53 | dvs | jeebo: I'll give you three guesses |
| 03:53.00 | jeebo | I realize now that I accidently passed up the window where I select which packages to install |
| 03:53.09 | dvm1981 | jeebo: In an console identify you as root user > 'su'. Then type 'tasksel' |
| 03:53.16 | jayr168 | yes there is sound |
| 03:53.17 | jeebo | thanks! |
| 03:53.23 | Gnea | EruditeHermit: i'm catching some massive lag from one of the mirrors |
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| 03:53.34 | dvm1981 | jeebo: But if you not know that, i recomend you to read the reference manual, an really really great resource! |
| 03:53.38 | jayr168 | mp3 playing is no problem its just that KDE and XMMS cannot play sound together |
| 03:53.51 | jayr168 | but thers no problem in GNOME? |
| 03:54.00 | dvs | jayr168: And you're using ALSA? |
| 03:54.02 | curt | EruditeHermit, http.us.debian.org seems just fine... |
| 03:54.25 | jayr168 | yes |
| 03:54.29 | jayr168 | I use alsaconf |
| 03:54.30 | EruditeHermit | curt: I am using ftp |
| 03:54.36 | jeebo | Ok, I'll look into it. I just needed help so I can get a GUI up and actually use linux. Thanks again |
| 03:54.49 | jayr168 | when kde plays any sound xmms cannot play anymore |
| 03:54.53 | dvs | jayr168: Make XMMS use ALSA |
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| 03:55.10 | jayr168 | I have to run alsaconf and to let xmms play sound again |
| 03:55.27 | Azar | :) yep let xmms play again |
| 03:55.44 | Gnea | jayr168: what output plugin is xmms using? oss or alsa? |
| 03:55.53 | dvs | jayr168: use Preferences... in XMMS to use ALSA |
| 03:55.57 | EruditeHermit | I just changed to ftp.uk.d.o and its all good |
| 03:56.07 | jayr168 | ALSA |
| 03:56.16 | jayr168 | if I select oss.lib alsa hangs |
| 03:56.19 | Gnea | EruditeHermit: cool :) |
| 03:56.27 | jayr168 | i mean if I select oss.lib XMMS hangs |
| 03:56.27 | Azar | I wonder how kde would desfigure sound in xmms |
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| 03:56.46 | Gnea | jayr168: ok, definately stick with alsa then - what kind of soundcard is it? |
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| 03:57.05 | Gnea | Azar: it's usually a limitation of the audio hardware |
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| 03:57.19 | redblade | Hi, where do I get ajunta for Debain? |
| 03:57.24 | jayr168 | CMI 8738 (Full Linux Support) |
| 03:57.25 | redblade | (sarge) |
| 03:57.27 | karsten | !tell redblade about search |
| 03:57.28 | Azar | I see... jayr168 did ever xmms played before you installed kde? |
| 03:57.37 | maher | jayr168: have you restarted xmms since turning on the sound daemon? |
| 03:57.43 | maheem | redblade, apt-get anjuta |
| 03:57.43 | jayr168 | yah it plays in Gnome |
| 03:57.57 | jayr168 | ive rebooted a couple of times |
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| 03:58.25 | dvm1981 | redblade: apt-cache search anjuta |
| 03:58.43 | jayr168 | Juk plays with no problem |
| 03:58.52 | karsten | weasel_00: Get your mud on! |
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| 03:59.09 | karsten | Feh. |
| 03:59.17 | gentgeen__ | Not having much luck, so I am going to ask again -- I have a text file that has 2 rows, 10 columns, tab delimited -- is there a way to "rotate" it so that it is 10 rows and 2 columns??? |
| 03:59.22 | jayr168 | guys? |
| 03:59.42 | Gnea | jayr168, Azar: the problem is that XMMS grabs the sound device in ALSA, but because CMI-based cards aren't full-duplex, it can only play one source at a time, while others get queued - for instance, if you've got XMMS pumping out tunes and your KDE makes some sort of sound, then the sound from KDE will likely sit in the background until XMMS is finished playing its song (either when it ends or if you hit pause/stop) |
| 03:59.45 | gentgeen__ | a few others gave me sed, tr, xargs -- but I can't seem to get them all put together right to get the results |
| 04:00.04 | Gnea | the problem exists with a variety of other soundcards as well |
| 04:00.12 | dvm1981 | gentgeen__: With 'tr' |
| 04:00.16 | Gnea | i know, i had the same problem for years |
| 04:00.31 | Gnea | then I got an emu10k and the problem simply went away :) |
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| 04:01.19 | Gnea | jayr168: so your best bet would be to either try some sort of sound daemon (which really sucks) or disable sounds in KDE |
| 04:01.20 | Azar | Gnea wow, now I am so glad I never installed kde or gnome |
| 04:01.30 | maher | gentgeen__: you probably want (g)awk |
| 04:01.48 | dvm1981 | gentgeen__: Write an script :-/ |
| 04:01.48 | jayr168 | ok were can I find a sound deamon |
| 04:01.49 | jayr168 | ? |
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| 04:02.10 | weasel | weasel_00: I wonder if you could get a different nickname. |
| 04:02.22 | Sonny | when I try to run mysql u receive this output: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) |
| 04:02.29 | Gnea | Azar: older versions of Enlightenment had the same problem (they used sounds, but required esd to run - if XMMS was running then esd couldn't grab the device and it would fall apart - same thing the other way around: if esd was running, then XMMS borked) |
| 04:02.58 | Gnea | ultimately it just resulted in an error message on the screen with an 'ok' button |
| 04:02.59 | dvm1981 | Sonny: MySQL Running? |
| 04:03.05 | Sonny | yep |
| 04:03.05 | Azar | Gnea so why kde or gnome come with their own sounds? |
| 04:03.20 | Gnea | Azar: cuz windows came with their own sounds. |
| 04:03.24 | dvm1981 | Sonny: '/etc/init.d/mysql restart' help that? |
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| 04:03.36 | Azar | yak...yak yak |
| 04:03.45 | dvm1981 | Sonny: Look what procces are active, to see if he is been running |
| 04:03.54 | Sonny | ok |
| 04:03.56 | Azar | it should use a splitter |
| 04:04.12 | Azar | miguel stop CTCP pinging |
| 04:04.19 | Gnea | and gnome and kde, in their inifinately limited wisdom, decided that the best way to introduce people to linux was to make it look, feel and sound like windows as best they could, while providing a unix backend |
| 04:04.41 | Gnea | of course, gnome and kde pale in comparison to OSX, which is something apple actually did right ;) |
| 04:04.51 | dvm1981 | What would say that "Received a CTCP PING 1142222660 841221 from miguel (to #debian)", i have understand, ping! but to my? See you that also ? |
| 04:04.53 | bucky | hi miguel |
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| 04:05.13 | Gnea | dvm1981: he pinged the entire channel |
| 04:05.39 | dvm1981 | Gnea: Hhhmm, i was thinking to me ... :-/ |
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| 04:05.47 | Gnea | ðTEð miguel pinged #debian. |
| 04:05.57 | jayr168 | i cant find alsa in lsmod |
| 04:05.57 | jayr168 | ? |
| 04:06.10 | jayr168 | does these mean alsa in not loaded |
| 04:06.10 | karsten | What's a good way to record via builtin mic on Debian? Just need to create a test Wav. |
| 04:06.11 | Gnea | jayr168: they would be preceded with snd_ |
| 04:06.12 | Azar | jayr168: cat /proc/modules |
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| 04:06.24 | dvm1981 | Sonny: Help that? |
| 04:06.33 | Gnea | karsten: teamspeak |
| 04:06.43 | Gnea | karsten: or audacity |
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| 04:07.50 | dvm1981 | Sonny: Use for ex: 'pstree -Ap' to see the proccesses |
| 04:08.13 | jayr168 | how do I know if kde is blocking my sound card? |
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| 04:08.29 | Gnea | jayr168: lsof | grep dsp |
| 04:08.58 | Sonny | I use ps aux.... theres the process |
| 04:09.09 | dvm1981 | -artsd(15667) |
| 04:09.12 | dvm1981 | Or so? |
| 04:09.21 | Gnea | that souhds right |
| 04:09.24 | Gnea | sounds* |
| 04:09.46 | Gnea | dvm1981: yeah, should be able to disable that in the menu, iirc |
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| 04:10.22 | jayr168 | firefox-b 4611 jayr168 mem REG 3,1 11112 18153 /usr/lib/libartsdsp.so.0.0.0 |
| 04:10.29 | jayr168 | wat does it mean? |
| 04:11.13 | dvm1981 | Gnea: Sorry i not understand :-/ |
| 04:11.15 | Gnea | jayr168: it means that your firefox is utilizing the arts daemon |
| 04:11.55 | dvm1981 | Sonny: Have you restart that service and so? Have it help? |
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| 04:12.03 | Gnea | dvm1981: it's okay |
| 04:12.12 | jayr168 | how to let xmms play in OSS plugin? |
| 04:12.21 | jayr168 | it hangs when I try it |
| 04:12.34 | dvm1981 | Gnea: Saying that it's late :-) |
| 04:12.38 | Gnea | jayr168: is snd_pcm_oss loaded? |
| 04:12.47 | dvm1981 | 05:15 AM |
| 04:12.47 | Gnea | dvm1981: hehehe |
| 04:12.55 | Gnea | wow |
| 04:12.58 | Azar | jayr168: there is only ONE at a time able to run/play: either OSS or ALSA. Right now ALSA is running OSS was jailed |
| 04:13.08 | Gnea | dvm1981: where are you? |
| 04:13.21 | dvm1981 | Gnea: Belguim :-) |
| 04:13.48 | Gnea | dvm1981: weeee! it's 9:15PM here in arizona, usa :) |
| 04:14.11 | Sonny | dvm1981:: yep thanks |
| 04:14.28 | dvm1981 | Sonny: So it's solved? |
| 04:14.55 | jayr168 | yes oss pcm is loaded |
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| 04:16.20 | Gnea | jayr168: ok, well here's the thing: the OSS-emulation is just part of ALSA - so no matter what, all sound apps are going to use ALSA to interface with the chip on the soundcard - the chip on the soundcard can only handle so many processes at once |
| 04:16.43 | Gnea | jayr168: does that make sense? |
| 04:17.04 | dvm1981 | Gnea: I'm been trying to get some info of you with '/whois Gnea', by the others, it give many more info... Why not by you? |
| 04:17.32 | Sonny | dvm1981:: yep |
| 04:17.34 | Gnea | dvm1981: what info are you looking for, and why? |
| 04:17.41 | dvm1981 | Sonny: Nice :-) |
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| 04:18.10 | jayr168 | k |
| 04:18.16 | jayr168 | why does it hang? |
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| 04:18.36 | dvm1981 | Gnea: We have talking about contry, so i was trying to look where you from, i know, you have say it. I not try to do bad things, no panic ;-) |
| 04:18.41 | Gnea | jayr168: because it's trying to access the chip in the soundcard more than one at a time |
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| 04:18.59 | Gnea | dvm1981: it's ok :) |
| 04:19.20 | Gnea | jayr168: er, "more than once at a time" |
| 04:19.30 | rredd4 | I installed flight-of-the-Amazon-queen in sarge. I do not see it in any of my menus. Where did apt put the program? |
| 04:19.30 | Mr0bvious | Does anyone know where I can get a xine newer than 1.1.0 for Sarge? |
| 04:19.33 | alkalineX | I am looking for someone who is willing to create a .deb package from an .rpm |
| 04:19.47 | Gnea | huh... |
| 04:19.53 | jayr168 | but when I chose ALSA as to play sound in xmms it says in cannot open audio? |
| 04:19.54 | dvm1981 | rredd4: 'dpkg -L <package>' |
| 04:20.01 | Gnea | alkalineX: apt-get install alien |
| 04:20.14 | dvm1981 | rredd4: 'dpkg --status <package>' or like it say it ... |
| 04:20.16 | Gnea | !alien |
| 04:20.16 | dpkg | rumour has it, alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to debian, debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well, or some slimy, green, bug-like, creepy creature from outerspace that came to Earth to have sex with agent Scully, or at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/ |
| 04:20.17 | jayr168 | I have to run alsaconf to let xmms play audio |
| 04:20.30 | jayr168 | ? |
| 04:20.32 | alkalineX | Gnea: i dont have debian.. this is for my users, not me.. |
| 04:20.35 | rredd4 | dvm1981: ty |
| 04:20.41 | dvm1981 | jayr168: Have you been choose the ALSA one in xmms? |
| 04:20.53 | Gnea | alkalineX: so what distro are you running? |
| 04:21.26 | alkalineX | i support the windows platform for a java based p2p app |
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| 04:21.38 | Gnea | oh, warez |
| 04:21.50 | alkalineX | uh, no |
| 04:21.56 | dvm1981 | With 'alien' it's really peace of cake to do it, |
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| 04:22.05 | Gnea | oh ok |
| 04:22.13 | alkalineX | www.frostwire.com |
| 04:22.37 | Gnea | alkalineX: well your users are obviously using debian, right? |
| 04:23.05 | alkalineX | we usually only create only RPM's, but i would like to offer a .deb package for the debian and ubuntu users... |
| 04:23.44 | alkalineX | Gnea: any OS that can run SUN JVM can run our app |
| 04:23.45 | dvm1981 | alkalineX: 'alien <package.rpm>' |
| 04:23.57 | Gnea | okay, well you'd have to create for both - debian and ubuntu are not one in the same, so what it sounds like you're looking for are some people to help with that endeavor |
| 04:24.01 | alkalineX | dvm1981: no, im on windows |
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| 04:24.23 | alkalineX | Gnea: that was my first question ;) |
| 04:24.27 | Gnea | alkalineX: very cool, i think it can be done then - i'm just not that skilled at it :) |
| 04:24.34 | dvm1981 | alkalineX: Try to install 'Qemu and Kqemu' (similar as Vmware) and install it!!! |
| 04:24.51 | dvm1981 | alkalineX: 'Kqemu for windows' |
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| 04:25.11 | dvm1981 | alkalineX: Install Debian, i mean! |
| 04:25.12 | rredd4 | dvm1981: which file is the executable one? |
| 04:25.16 | maher | alkalineX: if you do windows support why do you need .debs - if you need to support debian you're really going to need access to a debian box... |
| 04:25.38 | Gnea | dvm1981: you may get a better response from the debian developer mailing list |
| 04:25.44 | Gnea | er |
| 04:25.50 | Gnea | alkalineX: you may get a better response from the debian developer mailing list |
| 04:26.02 | dvm1981 | rredd4: I not know, i have not install it on my computer, but you can paste that output in pastebin or so .. |
| 04:26.11 | alkalineX | dvm1981: its not my responsibility to make any other platform specific packages available... as Gnea said, im just looking for a few people (or one) that will kindly do this for their distro |
| 04:26.11 | dvm1981 | !tell rredd4 about pastebin |
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| 04:26.46 | dvm1981 | alkalineX: Paste the link where that package are located and someone here would been do that, sure! |
| 04:27.12 | alkalineX | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/frostwire/FrostWire-4.10.9-0.i586.rpm?download |
| 04:27.13 | dvm1981 | rredd4: Read what (the bot) dpkg say you |
| 04:27.13 | unstable | haha, breezy badger has a system readable file with the first user registered's password in plain text. |
| 04:27.15 | Gnea | alkalineX: it looks great, but it would be a challenge, that's for sure - www.debian.org check the mail lists there for the developers one, and check the developers corner while you're at it for some useful info |
| 04:27.16 | unstable | give me a break, hahaha |
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| 04:27.31 | unstable | breezy badger sounds like a douche kit brand name you buy at a woman's store |
| 04:27.40 | Gnea | i need sleep |
| 04:27.45 | unstable | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143334 |
| 04:27.47 | unstable | jaja |
| 04:27.52 | Gnea | unstable: LMAO |
| 04:28.09 | dvm1981 | alkalineX: I download it, and try it, if nobody have done before me... |
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| 04:28.23 | unstable | heh, so most people who use breezy badger have their root password in plain text in a system readable file. |
| 04:28.24 | unix_infidel | anyone here used LKL? is there anyway to parse it so that its a bit more clear? Or does anyone know any alternatives to LKL that's a bit better? |
| 04:28.27 | alkalineX | thanks |
| 04:28.27 | unstable | That's not a big hole or anything. |
| 04:30.00 | madona | are JPEGs / JFIF images always on 24 bit colors? If not, how do I know what is the number of colors. I have tryed djpeg to convrt jpeg to ppm but I think I'm loosing colors. Beacuse ppm has 8 bit colors. What should I do? If I pass is to bmp It result in a file of the same size than the 8 bit ppm so I think the bmp has 8 bit colors too. |
| 04:30.01 | unstable | And it took them this long to find it too, that's the hilarious part. |
| 04:30.02 | Azar | so unstable, what Debian issue you have for us? |
| 04:30.20 | dvm1981 | alkalineX: Done, i set it on the server now... |
| 04:30.40 | unstable | Azar I can't get my fn key to work with my toshiba laptop. |
| 04:30.42 | karsten | Um. Using the sox 'rec' program, what's a good audio device to use? |
| 04:30.49 | rredd4 | dvm1981: http://pastebin.ca/45433 |
| 04:30.53 | karsten | unstable: 'fn' key or "f'n" key? ;-) |
| 04:30.58 | unstable | Azar: I have toshutils toshset and fnfxd installed, but it says I don't have kernel support. |
| 04:30.59 | karsten | unstable: console or X? |
| 04:31.02 | rredd4 | dvm1981: ty |
| 04:31.03 | unstable | karsten: "fn" key |
| 04:31.07 | unstable | karsten: X |
| 04:31.15 | dvm1981 | rredd4: 5 minutes please and i look, i terminate a little thing here ... |
| 04:31.28 | rredd4 | k |
| 04:31.29 | Azar | unstable isn't that because that toshiba was build with winXP in mind? |
| 04:31.34 | unstable | I did modprobe toshiba_acpi; but it says... "FATAL: Error inserting toshiba_acpi (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/kernel/drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.ko): No such device" |
| 04:31.36 | karsten | unstable: check your key configuration. It's selected during your X config, you can reset it with xkeycaps or xmodmap. |
| 04:31.40 | alkalineX | dvm1981: thanks, got a linky? |
| 04:31.56 | unstable | cookooland:~# locate toshiba|head -2|tail -1 |
| 04:31.56 | unstable | /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/kernel/drivers/acpi/toshiba_acpi.ko |
| 04:32.01 | Azar | I actually read an article 3 years ago about a guy who demanded a refund from toshiba because he could not use it with a linux OS |
| 04:32.09 | unstable | Azar: probably |
| 04:32.26 | dvm1981 | alkalineX: http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/frostwire_4.10.9-1_i386.deb |
| 04:32.31 | Azar | unstable you could return it and ask for a linux-friendly machine |
| 04:32.31 | unix_infidel | anyone here used LKL? is there anyway to parse it so that its a bit more clear? Or does anyone know any alternatives to LKL that's a bit better? |
| 04:32.45 | dvm1981 | rredd4: I go to look ;-) |
| 04:32.49 | unstable | !tell unix_infidel about repeat |
| 04:32.58 | rredd4 | ty |
| 04:32.59 | alkalineX | dvm1981: i appreciate it, thanks |
| 04:33.08 | unix_infidel | it was a couple buffers a go :( |
| 04:33.08 | dvm1981 | alkalineX: :-) |
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| 04:33.17 | Azar | unix_infidel: personally I never used LKL and do not know what it is, sorry |
| 04:33.46 | unstable | karsten: xmodmap doesn't show the fn key, and I don't know what to map it to. |
| 04:34.12 | unstable | unix_infidel: yea, I don't know what lkl is either, stop repeating |
| 04:34.35 | unix_infidel | unstable: try xev? |
| 04:34.41 | unstable | I did that. |
| 04:34.45 | Azar | unstable, let him repeat maybe someone will be able to help him |
| 04:34.46 | unstable | xev shows nothing when I hit the fn key |
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| 04:34.57 | dvm1981 | rredd4: I think there is an little part that are missing in you're output. The only thing i can suggest now is to try 'queen' in an console |
| 04:35.07 | unix_infidel | unstable, ive got xev mapping fn on ubuntu. |
| 04:35.08 | rredd4 | k |
| 04:35.12 | unix_infidel | maybe i could cat a file to help ya out? |
| 04:35.19 | unstable | unix_infidel: Is your laptop a toshiba? |
| 04:35.26 | unix_infidel | unstable: IBM thinkpad t42 |
| 04:35.31 | rredd4 | command not found |
| 04:35.32 | unstable | well that's why it works |
| 04:35.33 | unstable | heh |
| 04:35.43 | unix_infidel | unstable: regardless....i could give it a shot if you just gave me a file to try out. |
| 04:35.53 | maher | unstable: look on linuxlaptops for someone with the samemodel |
| 04:35.55 | dvm1981 | rredd4: It's look in the output that there are not an executable in for ex: /bin |
| 04:36.01 | karsten | unstable: install xkeycaps. It should show it. |
| 04:36.23 | rredd4 | dvm1981: I will reinstall |
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| 04:36.50 | argnl | hiyas |
| 04:36.53 | karsten | unstable: Hrm... Um. Laptop. Right. I _think_ the laptop Just Knows, or so I'm given to understand. |
| 04:37.00 | dvm1981 | rredd4: But i not know what it is really flight-of-the-amazon-queen, so i need to look on the web. |
| 04:37.19 | rredd4 | dvm1981: i typed that too |
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| 04:38.12 | rredd4 | dvm1981: bash: flight-of-the-amazon-queen: command not found |
| 04:38.14 | Sonny | do you know how to enable the "tapping" function in a synaptics touchpad? |
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| 04:38.30 | dvm1981 | rredd4: and 'que<TAB>' |
| 04:38.32 | dvm1981 | ? |
| 04:38.43 | rredd4 | what is that |
| 04:38.48 | rredd4 | please |
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| 04:39.03 | dvm1981 | rredd4: Or double tab -> tabulation key, just under the esc -> escape key |
| 04:39.48 | dvm1981 | rredd4: And? |
| 04:40.19 | dvm1981 | Sonny: I know now, how to desactivate it :-/ |
| 04:40.32 | rredd4 | dvm1981: you mean -- flight-of-the-amazon-queen `que tab, tab?? |
| 04:40.39 | dvm1981 | rredd4: no |
| 04:41.15 | madona | Hi, I'm converting a jpeg image to ppm (256 colors) and to bmp passing 16000000 colors as parameter and both files (bmp and ppm) have the same size. |
| 04:41.16 | rredd4 | dvm1981: sorry, don't understand |
| 04:41.28 | madona | is the bmp in 16000000 colors? |
| 04:41.28 | dvm1981 | rredd4: 'que<TAB>' so the cli (command line interface) complete the word, and hope that the executable is 'queen' but i really think that i not find it, bee seeing you're output |
| 04:41.45 | madona | is the jpg in 16000000 colors .? any clue? |
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| 04:42.33 | dvm1981 | madona: bmp, is not an compressed image, jpg well(or can do it), no problem with jpg |
| 04:42.37 | Sonny | dvm1981: excuse me? so you know how to activate it |
| 04:42.48 | Thanatermesis | no news about the repositories GPG thing ? |
| 04:42.48 | maher | rredd4: do you have scummvm installed? |
| 04:43.17 | dvm1981 | Sonny: Depending with what application you have do, i look a bit, laptop is off now, so i look the app here on that one |
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| 04:43.29 | rredd4 | maher: yes |
| 04:43.36 | nvz_ | oh man, tomorrows paper is gonna be good.. hopefully they got a good story :P |
| 04:43.36 | dvm1981 | Thanatermesis: Yes, here in the topic, look at the top... |
| 04:43.40 | rredd4 | maher: installed with the deb package |
| 04:43.44 | madona | dvm1981: I understand what you are saying . But I just want to convert my jpeg files into bitmaps to work with them without loosing. But I dont want to loos colors |
| 04:43.51 | kevsthabes | hey guys,, just wanted to thank those that helped me earlier, everything is working like a dream! |
| 04:44.17 | maher | rredd4: try man scummvm or look in /usr/share/doc/scummvm to see how to run the game |
| 04:44.22 | rredd4 | dvm1981: i did que <tab> <tab> what now |
| 04:44.23 | dvm1981 | madona: With 'imagemagic' |
| 04:44.37 | nvz | kevsthabes: hows that, only works when your eyes are closed and fades away just as quick as you open them? |
| 04:44.38 | dvm1981 | rredd4: Hope that you're "queen" is there :-/ |
| 04:44.56 | madona | dvm1981: yes. I'm using convert from imagemagick |
| 04:45.05 | dvm1981 | rredd4: If you see nothing, then there are nothing :-( |
| 04:45.36 | rredd4 | dvm1981: not there... |
| 04:45.41 | kevsthabes | nvz: lol bah, i had a noob question about changing my distro to another hd.. got my answer pretty quick so :d |
| 04:45.45 | wireddd | anyone know if there is a channel for lmms? |
| 04:45.52 | Thanatermesis | dvm1981 yes, but what is the news about the problem ? in another words, persons are trying to fix it ? |
| 04:45.55 | rredd4 | dvm1981: try reinstall? |
| 04:46.07 | dvm1981 | Sonny: It was with the 'tpconfig' app, really simple |
| 04:46.18 | madona | I was using "djpeg" to convert to ppm or "convert" from imagemagick. But now I want to be shure to convert to a format and not loose colors in the way |
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| 04:46.25 | dvm1981 | Thanatermesis: I not know about it |
| 04:46.48 | dvm1981 | rredd4: Bwa, that can do nothing bad, so in you're case, yes :-/ |
| 04:46.53 | maher | rredd4: the quenn package is just the data - scummvm contains the executable |
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| 04:47.15 | nvz | kevsthabes: yeah, dont mind me,. I am always this weird.. two of my friends I have known for probably more than 15 years now just told me tonight I am like a crack head without the addiction or desire to smoke crack. |
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| 04:47.31 | Thanatermesis | ok |
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| 04:47.39 | rredd4 | maher: according to the dpkg --status, it needs queen to execute it |
| 04:47.50 | Sonny | dvm1981: excuse me? |
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| 04:48.02 | Sonny | dvm1981: I'm editing the xorg.conf file |
| 04:48.05 | dvm1981 | Sonny: I have that app not installed here on this box, an desktop, i also not want to install it. But depending with whos app you hace desactivate it. There is also 'synaptic', but with that i have fail |
| 04:48.23 | madona | dvm1981: I was using "djpeg" to convert to ppm or "convert" from imagemagick. But now I want to be shure to convert to a format and not loose colors in the way. And I dont know id the jpegs have 24 bit . But I'm shure ppms has 8 bit. |
| 04:48.25 | rredd4 | maher: To actually make use of ScummVM, you'll have to install one of these, or obtain the proprietary game data for another supported game from somewhere else. |
| 04:48.25 | liable | how can i make a menu entry run some command options? i tried /usr/share/menu, but doesnt seem to work. |
| 04:48.37 | dvm1981 | Sonny: No, why would you excuse for? |
| 04:48.38 | maher | rredd4: scummvm contains the program ; queen whatever contains the data - you need both installed |
| 04:48.42 | Sonny | dvm1981: I'm installing it, lets see what happens |
| 04:48.51 | kevsthabes | nvz: lol nice description, its awesome no worries |
| 04:49.00 | maher | rredd4: looking in /usr/share/doc/scummvm or doing man scummvm might tell you how to run the game |
| 04:49.38 | dvm1981 | Sonny: You're tapping mode not work currently? So look wish of the two app are installed 'dpkg --status <package>' |
| 04:49.54 | nvz | of course I can see why you'd say that if you seen me in sheetz (the store) in my pj's house shoes and a hooded coat |
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| 04:50.23 | dvm1981 | Sonny: I suppose there are one installed and have desactivate it. Perso i find it crap, when it's active. |
| 04:50.26 | nvz | its not like I was planning on going to sheetz when I got dressed |
| 04:51.04 | dvm1981 | madona: I can not help with that topic :-/ no enought experience with that file format :-( |
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| 04:51.33 | glasse | madona: Is another file format OK? PNG is lossless and 24-bit capable. |
| 04:51.44 | rredd4 | maher: looking at scummvm.org |
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| 04:52.42 | dvm1981 | rredd4: No listen to maher an look at /usr/share/doc/scummvm |
| 04:53.16 | madona | glasse, dvm1981: I will try PNG. Thanks |
| 04:53.18 | jayr168 | how do I adjust mouse sentivity in KDE? |
| 04:53.20 | maher | rredd4: what happens if you type scummvm |
| 04:53.27 | jayr168 | KDE's control center doesnt seem to work? |
| 04:53.40 | dvm1981 | rredd4: But i would not say that's an bad one idea to look to the official site of it. No you have an good atitude. But you need really to look on you're system |
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| 04:54.29 | dvm1981 | madona: And the 'bmp' file format is that not good? Like you have talk about it at the first place |
| 04:54.45 | rredd4 | maher: command not found |
| 04:55.09 | jayr168 | Guys? |
| 04:55.12 | jayr168 | KDE's control center doesnt seem to work? |
| 04:55.14 | jayr168 | how do I adjust mouse sentivity in KDE? |
| 04:55.29 | nvz | jayr168: hey, |
| 04:55.31 | karsten | jayr168: There's a mouse config section in the control panel thing. |
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| 04:55.37 | nvz | jayr168: dont press enter so much. |
| 04:55.40 | dvm1981 | rredd4: And if you post the output of 'dpkg -L scumvm', supposing that scumvm is an pkg |
| 04:55.45 | nvz | jayr168: try getting to the point earlier. |
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| 04:55.59 | karsten | jayr168: ... and doesn't work how? |
| 04:56.03 | liable | nvz: hippocrite! :) |
| 04:56.07 | nvz | jayr168: so we dont have to try piece together your messages then decipher the meaning |
| 04:56.24 | madona | glasse, dvm1981: I converted to bmp. But the size of the bmp is almost the same as the ppm so I think It's a 8 bit color bmp. |
| 04:56.32 | nvz | liable: I try to illistrate what they are doing so they see how annoying it is in a channel of this volume |
| 04:56.50 | nvz | liable: ask piggy, I never break up my words.. I probably speak more words per line than anyone else |
| 04:57.02 | glasse | madona: I think PPM and BMP are 8-bit formats. Do you need to use one of these two formats? |
| 04:57.08 | liable | nvz: whos piggy? |
| 04:57.16 | nvz | liable: are you serious? |
| 04:57.19 | liable | nvz: i realise what you were doing.. |
| 04:57.22 | liable | nvz: yes |
| 04:57.26 | SerajewelKS | madona, glasse: BMP can be pretty much any color depth |
| 04:57.29 | dvm1981 | madona: There are go somethings bad while you convert it, you have forget an option or so? ... suggestions ... |
| 04:57.41 | nvz | liable: hmm.. piggy is the #debian PISG bot, where the hell have you been? |
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| 04:58.19 | liable | nvz: all over the place. i must have missed that one in the #debian manual. |
| 04:58.20 | nvz | liable: you know http://debstats.dontexist.org |
| 04:58.25 | madona | glasse, dvm1981: No, I'm not forced to use one of those. It's just that I have a script that uses ppmcat and ppmcut .. I will change it to the imagemagick equivalent .. |
| 04:58.32 | dvm1981 | glasse: I had not see you're msg |
| 04:58.45 | liable | oh, right, i know debstats, just didnt know wtf piggy was.. |
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| 04:58.46 | maher | rredd4: are you sure you spelt it right? scummvm |
| 04:59.06 | rredd4 | dvm1981: http://pastebin.ca/45434 |
| 04:59.12 | rredd4 | maher: yes |
| 04:59.35 | dvm1981 | rredd4: No executable there... |
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| 04:59.58 | nvz | liable: piggy is the bot that collects the logs that are used to generate the statistics |
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| 05:00.17 | redblade | Hi. |
| 05:00.19 | rredd4 | dvm1981: thats why I thougt it might be good to reinstall... |
| 05:00.20 | madona | glasse, dvm1981: I used $ convert -colors 16000000 x.jpg -colors 16000000 x.bmp |
| 05:00.28 | maher | rredd4: try typing /usr/games/scummvm |
| 05:00.30 | redblade | I ned some help with apache |
| 05:00.49 | madona | glasse, dvm1981: I also used the same but ppm instead of bmp and both files have the same size. |
| 05:00.49 | redblade | I'm not sure where index.html is |
| 05:01.07 | maher | redblade: default apache tends to put stuff in /var/www |
| 05:01.14 | dvm1981 | rredd4: ^^ looks to maher |
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| 05:01.19 | madona | glasse, dvm1981: Could it be that the original jpg has 8 bit colors? |
| 05:01.38 | rredd4 | maher: its there |
| 05:01.51 | dvm1981 | rredd4: Run it |
| 05:02.00 | maher | rredd4: that's the executable - what happens when you try and run it? |
| 05:02.07 | jayr168 | mouse config in KDE's Control Center doesnt seem to work? how do I adjust sensitivity? |
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| 05:02.30 | SerajewelKS | !tell jayr168 about repeat |
| 05:02.32 | rredd4 | maher: scmmvm bash: scmmvm: command not found |
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| 05:02.47 | pisco | hi |
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| 05:02.52 | pisco | driver for |
| 05:02.54 | pisco | sansung |
| 05:02.54 | pisco | SC1200A-TX |
| 05:02.55 | glasse | madona: try identify file.jpg |
| 05:03.03 | SerajewelKS | !tell pisco abour enter |
| 05:03.03 | glasse | madona: Actually, identify -verbose |
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| 05:03.06 | pisco | please no speack ingish |
| 05:03.06 | maher | rredd4: ok type this and tell us what happens: /usr/games/scummvm |
| 05:03.09 | madona | glasse: ok |
| 05:03.16 | pisco | SerajewelKS, ? |
| 05:03.21 | SerajewelKS | pisco: what language do you speak |
| 05:03.23 | rredd4 | maher: cd ..... |
| 05:03.25 | rredd4 | ? |
| 05:03.25 | nvz | dvm1981: you just said it |
| 05:03.26 | pisco | spanish |
| 05:03.30 | pisco | SerajewelKS, spanish |
| 05:03.34 | SerajewelKS | !es |
| 05:03.35 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 05:03.36 | SerajewelKS | pisco: ^^^ |
| 05:03.39 | maher | rredd4: type "/usr/share/scummvm" |
| 05:03.41 | madona | glasse: $ identify x.jpg |
| 05:03.41 | madona | x.jpg JPEG 256x256 DirectClass 21kb |
| 05:03.46 | pisco | driver for |
| 05:03.51 | pisco | sansung |
| 05:03.53 | SerajewelKS | pisco: please join #debian-es |
| 05:03.55 | pisco | SC1200A-TX |
| 05:04.03 | pisco | SerajewelKS, nothing |
| 05:04.07 | glasse | madona: identify -verbose has lines for depth. |
| 05:04.07 | pisco | please help |
| 05:04.08 | maher | rredd4: i dunno how to say it? just type the name of the ecutable on a line on its own and thenpress return |
| 05:04.09 | redblade | maher, I know that the file is in apache2-default but there are a lot of files! |
| 05:04.13 | SerajewelKS | pisco: stop hitting |
| 05:04.16 | SerajewelKS | pisco: enter after every |
| 05:04.18 | dvm1981 | nvz: Yes, i know, somethimes people need an 512 Bit decoder to understand me :-/ |
| 05:04.18 | redblade | which one is the default? |
| 05:04.19 | SerajewelKS | pisco: two words, it's |
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| 05:04.21 | SerajewelKS | pisco: really annoying |
| 05:04.35 | rredd4 | maher: no such file |
| 05:04.46 | ahewitt | hi all, I am having an issue with proftpd where logging into one virtual host with username x works but logging into the other virtual host with the same username/password fails...a diff of the 2 vhosts shows that they are the same apart from the IP address and the regular details...on the server I get "user logged in successfully" but on the client I get "login incorrect" |
| 05:04.48 | madona | glasse: Im reading man identify |
| 05:04.58 | madona | glasse: ok |
| 05:05.07 | SerajewelKS | pisco: if you want help in spanish, join #debian-es. you're not going to get spanish help here. |
| 05:05.14 | maher | redblade: i don't have a default setup anymore - maybe its clever and picks one according to your locale or something |
| 05:05.34 | maher | redblade: i have an index.html in /var/www and it seems to be using that |
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| 05:05.50 | maher | rredd4: what does dpkg -l scummvm say |
| 05:06.09 | rredd4 | maher: http://pastebin.ca/45434 |
| 05:06.33 | dvm1981 | madona: file wens.jpg |
| 05:06.35 | pisco | sansung |
| 05:06.35 | pisco | SC1200A-TX |
| 05:06.35 | pisco | REV 2A |
| 05:06.35 | pisco | bk41-10053 |
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| 05:06.38 | maher | rredd4: small l |
| 05:06.44 | dvm1981 | bye |
| 05:06.51 | rredd4 | k |
| 05:07.30 | rredd4 | maher: No packages found matching scmmvm. |
| 05:07.45 | SerajewelKS | rredd4: there's a "u" in there too |
| 05:07.49 | maher | rredd4: you don't have it installed - apt-get install scummvm |
| 05:07.51 | rredd4 | oops |
| 05:08.29 | SerajewelKS | rredd4: whether it's installed or not, this should fix it: apt-get install --reinstall scummvm |
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| 05:08.55 | rredd4 | maher: version 0.7.1-1 installed |
| 05:08.58 | rredd4 | ok |
| 05:09.15 | dvm1981 | madona: Have you try 'file a_file.jpg' |
| 05:09.28 | maher | rredd4: ok - type /usr/games/scummvm, and paste the line you type and the output |
| 05:09.39 | dvm1981 | madona: To get to know if it's been an good file format that you want |
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| 05:10.41 | redblade | I can't save it in there! |
| 05:10.54 | rredd4 | maher: /usr/games/scummvm WARNING: Unable to open configuration file: /root/.scummvmrc! |
| 05:10.57 | redblade | what's the command line equivilent? |
| 05:11.07 | rredd4 | maher: it launched it |
| 05:11.09 | SerajewelKS | rredd4: why the hell are you running scummvm as root |
| 05:11.13 | maher | rredd4: well done |
| 05:11.15 | dvm1981 | rredd4: Bad bad, no run it as 'root', never |
| 05:11.19 | madona | glasse, dvm1981: using file gives me to little info. But identify -verbose works excelent. It says that the jpg file has 8 bit for each RGB . It says the same foe the converted ppm and the bmp!!! |
| 05:11.23 | rredd4 | ok |
| 05:11.27 | rredd4 | no root |
| 05:11.29 | maher | redblade: ? |
| 05:11.30 | rredd4 | lol |
| 05:11.34 | glasse | madona: Great! |
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| 05:11.39 | redblade | maher? |
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| 05:11.55 | maher | redblade: i didn't understand your question |
| 05:11.59 | rredd4 | i see scummvm in my gnome menus now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:12.06 | dvm1981 | madona: Yes, man, 'identify', thanks for the tip man ;-), i see it here |
| 05:12.09 | rss | What do I need to install to view djvu files in evince? |
| 05:12.13 | maher | rredd4: happy happy joy joy |
| 05:12.22 | rredd4 | now just to see the game! |
| 05:12.42 | dvm1981 | rredd4: Happy games man ;-) |
| 05:12.51 | rredd4 | maher: says add game |
| 05:12.57 | rredd4 | from where please |
| 05:13.52 | maher | rredd4: try usr/share/scummvm/flight-of-the-amazon-queen/ |
| 05:14.16 | rredd4 | k |
| 05:14.19 | rredd4 | ty!! |
| 05:14.19 | dvm1981 | madona: A bit otherwise, have you try it with 'Gimp' to save as.? |
| 05:14.25 | redblade | maher, I can't find the index.html |
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| 05:14.32 | redblade | I wish to edit it |
| 05:14.45 | maher | redblade: why not just make a new one in /var/www |
| 05:14.48 | redblade | It's not in /var/www |
| 05:15.06 | madona | glasse,dvm1981: So I should trust in identify. Ok. It's just that I readed that ppm has at most 256 colors. In fact I can see the number of colors in the ppm header (using $most x.ppm , the third line) and it is 255 |
| 05:15.09 | redblade | and I tried that but aparently it won't look there |
| 05:15.11 | maher | redblade: copy index.html.en to /var/www/index.html |
| 05:15.17 | redblade | how do I change where it looks? |
| 05:15.29 | redblade | oh |
| 05:15.51 | maher | redblade: oh - ok - i fiddled with my apache setup at some point - maybe i forced it to use /var/www as the root dir instead.... |
| 05:15.59 | madona | glasse,dvm1981: But It can be that the ppm color number is an old unused number which has no meaning in 24 bit files |
| 05:16.10 | dvm1981 | madona: You know more about that subject as my, you learn me some things here :-) i can not help on that subject :-( |
| 05:16.13 | rredd4 | maher: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:16.18 | maher | redblade: i'm using apache2 anyway so i'mnot going to be of much help |
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| 05:16.27 | maher | rredd4: have fun :) |
| 05:16.28 | rredd4 | dvm1981: whooppieeeee |
| 05:16.29 | karsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.39 | dvm1981 | rredd4: Yes man! :-) |
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| 05:16.50 | madona | glasse,dvm1981: Thanks men. Its enough .. Thankyou tahnkyou |
| 05:16.51 | glasse | madona: I wrote some programs that used PPM as output format a while ago. My recollection is that ppm has 8 bits per channel. |
| 05:16.59 | el_cubano | I am trying to diagnose a problem with bind9. Does anyone know what causes it to not answer authoritatively when it should? |
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| 05:17.08 | rredd4 | could not have done it with out you all! thanks a bunch!! |
| 05:17.41 | capnskull | i just set up a debian install on my friends PC and we an not get X to start. |
| 05:17.47 | madona | glasse: thanks a lot . That last conviced me at all. |
| 05:17.53 | dvm1981 | rredd4: Is still LOVING Debian :-) |
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| 05:18.27 | capnskull | he as an ati video card but "ati" as the driver in the XF86Config file wont work |
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| 05:19.57 | nse | ahewitt |
| 05:20.05 | nse | has gone. |
| 05:20.08 | capnskull | and auto config set the driver as "i810" but when we go to startx get an error about fatal IO error 104( connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" |
| 05:20.25 | rredd4 | debian is the only linux distro for me... |
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| 05:22.13 | myren | can someone help me? i'm trying to tar & bzip2 every directory to [dirname].tar.bz2 |
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| 05:24.00 | karsten | !tell capnskull about setup x |
| 05:24.25 | karsten | myren: every directory under some top root? |
| 05:24.34 | myren | yes |
| 05:24.40 | dvm1981 | myren: You want an script or so? I have do one some days ago in Python, but not finished. But he work al nice, just i want a bit more /features/ |
| 05:25.06 | capnskull | thank you |
| 05:25.09 | karsten | myren: Say you're in a directory and there's a list of subdirs: for d in *; do tar cjvf $d $d.tar.bz2 |
| 05:25.14 | karsten | myren: ... done; |
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| 05:25.38 | karsten | myren: Full line: for d in *; do tar cjvf $d.tar.bz2 $d; done |
| 05:25.46 | karsten | myren: ... mind I goofed source and target first time. |
| 05:25.58 | dvm1981 | and paste that in an text file, give sh extension, and there is you're first one script! |
| 05:26.01 | karsten | capnskull: NP. Call if there's problems. |
| 05:26.09 | myren | for d in * selects everything, not jsut directories right? |
| 05:26.25 | karsten | dvm1981: Um. chmod +x is far more useful than "mv foo foo.scr" |
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| 05:26.28 | karsten | myren: Yes. |
| 05:26.38 | myren | is there any easy way to filter that? |
| 05:26.50 | karsten | myren: You can think of * as a list. If you want directories: $( find . -type d -maxdepth 1 ) |
| 05:27.00 | dvm1981 | karsten: I not see wath subject it's are going to talk |
| 05:27.15 | karsten | dvm1981: Your next drink's on me! |
| 05:27.24 | dvm1981 | ;-) |
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| 05:27.39 | myren | for d in $( find . -type d -maxdepth 1 ); do ... ? |
| 05:27.44 | karsten | myren: Yeah. |
| 05:27.52 | Fear_cult | any reason why debian's not listing a /dev/dsp or /dev/mixer but sound works in juk just not XMMS? |
| 05:27.53 | myren | thanks, i'm really week on my shell iterators |
| 05:27.57 | karsten | myren: Make that "do echo ..." to see what the commands generated will be. |
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| 05:28.07 | karsten | myren: weak, too, even. |
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| 05:28.17 | myren | lol, yeah |
| 05:28.32 | karsten | dvm1981: There's the un-cola and the fun-cola. I think you've found the latter. |
| 05:28.32 | CptnObvious | Does sarge run a 2.6 kernel? I have a 2.4 kernel and my sound card is supported in 2.6 not 2.4 |
| 05:28.44 | CptnObvious | Mandriva uses a 2.6.12 kernel and runs my card fine. |
| 05:29.01 | Fear_cult | when you install sarge at the boot prompt type linux26 |
| 05:29.08 | Fear_cult | it will install with 2.6.8 |
| 05:29.09 | karsten | CptnObvious: Not a problem. |
| 05:29.15 | glasse | Fear_cult: If I had to guess it would be: alsa sound drivers, no OSS emulation, and artsd sound server. |
| 05:29.24 | Fear_cult | its an oss card |
| 05:29.28 | Fear_cult | sbLive |
| 05:29.45 | CptnObvious | Can I apt-get a 2.6 kernel? |
| 05:30.03 | glasse | Fear_cult: What do you mean, an OSS card? OSS are drivers. |
| 05:30.16 | CptnObvious | Or would you recommend the install cd linux26 boot prompt thing? |
| 05:30.17 | Fear_cult | ok well it should be useing an oss driver for the card |
| 05:30.26 | Fear_cult | emu10k1 |
| 05:30.52 | ice_1963 | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 or 686 |
| 05:31.29 | liable | CptnObvious: of course you can install one with apt-get |
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| 05:31.34 | glasse | Fear_cult: The ALSA drivers are typically preferred, they're newer. |
| 05:31.46 | CptnObvious | :) |
| 05:32.03 | Fear_cult | i did a manual kernel config the sblive driver wasent under alsa though it was under oss |
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| 05:33.02 | Fear_cult | maybe i dident |
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| 05:33.14 | glasse | Fear_cult: I think the ALSA module for your card is called snd-emu10k1. See if it's in lsmod. |
| 05:33.24 | Fear_cult | it is |
| 05:33.30 | Fear_cult | im useing debians stock kernel |
| 05:33.34 | Fear_cult | i built before i reinstalled |
| 05:33.47 | Fear_cult | running etch btw |
| 05:34.13 | glasse | Fear_cult: So everything is as it should be, no? |
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| 05:35.11 | Fear_cult | glasse, theres no /dev/dsp or /dev/mixer xmms wont run nor will UT |
| 05:35.17 | Fear_cult | well UT runs but no sound |
| 05:35.33 | donowho | what does ICE stand for in Linux? there is no 'man' for it, and web search mentioned Linux ice-cream! |
| 05:35.37 | liable | modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
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| 05:36.23 | CptnObvious | Hmm. |
| 05:36.27 | CptnObvious | My sound still isn't detected via alsaconf |
| 05:36.30 | CptnObvious | I just updated to the 2.6 kernel. |
| 05:36.31 | Fear_cult | that worked liable thanks |
| 05:36.37 | CptnObvious | Maybe I need newer. |
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| 05:37.11 | CptnObvious | I have a sblive 7.1 24bit PCI sound card. |
| 05:37.30 | liable | check the alsa web site. |
| 05:37.42 | CptnObvious | Sound Blaster Live 24bit |
| 05:37.42 | CptnObvious | Sound Blaster Live 7.1 SB0410 |
| 05:37.42 | CptnObvious | P17 Details (ca0106) [ANio] [MIDIio] (4) |
| 05:38.19 | donowho | no one here knows what ICE stand for? |
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| 05:38.53 | CptnObvious | Any suggestions? |
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| 05:38.59 | ice_1963 | what? |
| 05:39.20 | ashridah | hmm. i've used the command to update the key, uh, it doesn't seem to have helped. |
| 05:39.30 | ashridah | still getting an error about a bad signature |
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| 05:40.05 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: /topic |
| 05:40.10 | ashridah | ah |
| 05:40.17 | ashridah | so it's a mirror inconsistency? gotchya |
| 05:40.17 | dondelelcaro | donowho: internal compiler error |
| 05:40.24 | unstable | !tell donowho about ask |
| 05:40.27 | CptnObvious | So that's why KDE stinks? |
| 05:40.28 | CptnObvious | :p |
| 05:40.37 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: yeah, it should be resolved in a few hours |
| 05:40.47 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: yerp. |
| 05:40.50 | CptnObvious | Anyone got an idea about my sound card? |
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| 05:40.51 | ashridah | anyone care to suggest one that isn't borked :) |
| 05:41.06 | unstable | ashridah: mirrors.kernel.org |
| 05:41.12 | ashridah | tah |
| 05:41.13 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: debian.usc.edu wasn't borked the last time I checked; linux.csua.berkeley.edu should also be ok |
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| 05:41.24 | unstable | ashridah: Or any mirrors that ftp master doesn't control |
| 05:41.46 | donowho | unstable, don't apply a general statement to all situations. it doesn't apply in this case. |
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| 05:42.09 | meneg | what's wrong with apt auth again? (I'm not referring to the problem one month before) |
| 05:42.12 | unstable | donowho: If you want to know what something stands for just google it. |
| 05:42.19 | donowho | dondelelcaro, are u sure? what about ICE authorization then? |
| 05:42.32 | dondelelcaro | donowho: ask your complete question. ICE without contex is just a TLA. |
| 05:42.46 | unstable | "define: ice" in your google search, or use www.acronymfinder.com I thought you were beating around the bush and had a question about something else besides what ICE stands for. |
| 05:43.04 | dondelelcaro | meneg: the Release file or the Release.gpg got corrupted on some of those mirrors, it'll be resolved with the next pulse. |
| 05:43.10 | donowho | dondelelcaro, in the context of Linux. |
| 05:43.29 | nvz | dondelelcaro: pulse? :P |
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| 05:43.34 | meneg | dondelelcaro: (it's not a mirror im using:p) |
| 05:43.37 | dondelelcaro | donowho: I gave you the major definition of it already; you'll have to tell me exactly where you're seeing it if you want me to be more specific |
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| 05:43.59 | dondelelcaro | nvz: bolus, push... ;-) |
| 05:44.10 | nvz | o_O |
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| 05:44.21 | donowho | dondelelcaro, during login, there is a 'man' for iceauth but it isn't completed yet. |
| 05:44.48 | unstable | donowho: cd /usr/share/doc/iceauth |
| 05:44.55 | nvz | dondelelcaro: your vocabulary could cause some kind of buffer overflow in my system.. |
| 05:45.01 | unstable | actually nevermind |
| 05:45.12 | dos000_ | is there an automated tool/way to make my system boot over the second hdd i have in it ? if there is no tool what should i look out for ? |
| 05:45.44 | unstable | !tell dos000_ about grub |
| 05:46.29 | dvm1981 | Why in the topic he use the term 'borked', i have find in the jargon file that's broken ...? |
| 05:46.38 | dvm1981 | (also borked) Common deliberate typo for `broken'. |
| 05:46.41 | dvm1981 | I understand |
| 05:46.46 | dos000_ | unstable, i know about grub .. i am wondering if just copying the system will do it .. should i be copying /dev even ? |
| 05:47.05 | dvm1981 | But not why he use it in the topic, like everybody not understand it :-/ |
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| 05:47.26 | pmallapp | hi all |
| 05:47.28 | donowho | unstable, the isn't no such doc as iceauth. u r to simple-minded. |
| 05:47.29 | dondelelcaro | donowho: that's information and content exchange |
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| 05:47.37 | nvz | funny thing is my vocabulary is extrodinary compared to that of most yinzers.. my friend challenged the word 'obfuscate' I used earlier |
| 05:47.43 | dondelelcaro | donowho: and please stop using u, r, or baiting unstable. |
| 05:47.46 | pmallapp | looks like there is no package named libgnomeprint2.2_0 in the dvd images |
| 05:47.51 | nvz | granted I said it wrong and had to look it up myself |
| 05:47.59 | donowho | dondelelcaro, why not? |
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| 05:48.06 | dondelelcaro | nvz: he'd not like my shirt... it says "Eschew Obfuscation" |
| 05:48.12 | unstable | http://www.google.com/mars/ |
| 05:48.18 | nvz | I always thought there was another syllable in that word and a google shows that I am not alone |
| 05:48.40 | dondelelcaro | donowho: because it's rude and makes us work more than we need to to answer you? |
| 05:48.48 | mustaqila | Hi, I've got a slight problem with my apt-get activities |
| 05:48.50 | dondelelcaro | donowho: and if I have to ask you again you'll be devoiced? |
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| 05:48.58 | donowho | dondelelcaro, how can it be rude? |
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| 05:49.19 | dondelelcaro | mustaqila: just ask your question |
| 05:49.31 | unstable | !tell mustaqila about ask |
| 05:49.36 | dondelelcaro | mustaqila: /msg dpkg bat; if you want to get a head start |
| 05:49.55 | dondelelcaro | unstable: if someone has already given the content of that factoid, you don't need to use it as well... |
| 05:50.00 | mustaqila | Okay, well after I do any apt-get install * operation, I get the following show up and nothing else happens |
| 05:50.00 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I've always said obfusticate.. I dont know when they took that other syllable out of the dictionary.. heh |
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| 05:50.08 | mustaqila | dpkg-query: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 73138: |
| 05:50.08 | mustaqila | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.08 | mustaqila | exim4-config.postinst: [WARN] Installed debconf version is broken. Aborting preconfigure. |
| 05:50.08 | mustaqila | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 73138: |
| 05:50.08 | mustaqila | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:50.23 | mustaqila | Argh, sorry |
| 05:50.38 | mustaqila | Just pasted in #flood, basically, anyone know of a fix to that? |
| 05:50.43 | Boukensya | hey guys, a quick question. I have a bunch of debian machines and I have one machine that is dual boot (windows and debian) -windows for games, I was just wondering if there is an opensource program to be able to rdp to the windows machine, sorry I know this isn't the appropriate channel but not sure where else to go |
| 05:50.46 | dondelelcaro | meneg: your status file is broken; restore a backup from /var/backups/ |
| 05:51.13 | dondelelcaro | Boukensya: rdesktop? |
| 05:51.18 | dvm1981 | Boukensya: Tightvnc |
| 05:51.18 | meneg | what's the normal status file? |
| 05:51.29 | Boukensya | rdesktop? is that a server? |
| 05:51.38 | dondelelcaro | Boukensya: no, that's an rdp client |
| 05:51.53 | Boukensya | yeah, wanna stay away from vnc as I want to be able to log in from it, not take the session currently open |
| 05:52.02 | dondelelcaro | meneg: there isn't one. It's what tells dpkg what is actually installed. Somehow yours has managed to be corrupted. |
| 05:52.09 | dos000_ | anyone: if i just did a debootstrap to my second hdd and copy the required kernel and initrd under boot will i be able to reboot in the second hdd ? |
| 05:52.17 | Boukensya | is there an rdp server that is opensource? |
| 05:52.18 | dondelelcaro | meneg: your alternative is to manually edit the status file and fix line 73138. |
| 05:52.21 | meneg | if it doesn't exist, how is it corrupted? |
| 05:52.25 | meneg | :D |
| 05:52.27 | dvm1981 | Boukensya: Tightvnc |
| 05:52.31 | dondelelcaro | meneg: it exists... |
| 05:52.44 | dvm1981 | Boukensya: Also for M$ shit |
| 05:52.46 | Boukensya | can you log in seperatly with tightvnc? or do you have to take the session running? |
| 05:52.48 | dondelelcaro | Boukensya: you don't use rdp on opensource machines... you just use ssh with X tunneling... |
| 05:52.54 | dos000_ | Boukensya, there is freenx |
| 05:52.58 | myren | i get a permittion denied when trying to run fusermount, although i am a member of fuse... its perms are -rwsr-xr-- 1 root fuse 18K 2006-02-22 15:03 /usr/bin/fusermount |
| 05:53.01 | myren | i dont get it |
| 05:53.20 | dvm1981 | Boukensya: It's a bit similar as 'PCanywhere' |
| 05:54.05 | Boukensya | yeah, but that just takes the session currently open doesn't it? I need it to log in a new session |
| 05:54.09 | myren | Boukensya: you can run fake-x servers with Xvfb and then run tightvnc on those |
| 05:54.22 | myren | Or you can use freenx which is just frak tastic awsome |
| 05:54.22 | donowho | unstable, u r a bullshitter and an idiot. there is no such u never follow a thread and then butt in to tell me how to ask question. and don't ever tell people here to 'google'. firstly, it should be 'search the web'. google is not the only search engine. secondly, people would have already done so if they want to. they choose to be here means they prefer to chat. otherwise, why bother to have chat channel? |
| 05:54.25 | Boukensya | myren, i need it to log into the windows box |
| 05:54.28 | dvm1981 | myren: Log out and login again? |
| 05:54.36 | nvz | Boukensya: you actually _need_ to login, or you just _need_ another session other than the main X :0 ? |
| 05:54.37 | Boukensya | yeah that sort of thing |
| 05:54.56 | nvz | Boukensya: oh the server is windows? |
| 05:54.59 | myren | Uhh, freenx has rdp and all sorts of windows remoting crap |
| 05:55.01 | Boukensya | nvz: don't really need anything for linux, just for the windows side |
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| 05:55.14 | myren | Citrix ro whatever |
| 05:55.18 | pmallapp | looks like there is no package named libgnomeprint2.2_0 on either dvd images ( for amd64 etch) |
| 05:55.23 | Boukensya | checking out freenx |
| 05:55.33 | myren | Freenx is by far the best client for windows terminal servers |
| 05:55.52 | myren | should you be forced to drag such impure thoughts onto the poor unsuspecting linux world |
| 05:55.54 | dvm1981 | Boukensya: Tightvnc |
| 05:56.00 | dvm1981 | 3x |
| 05:56.14 | Boukensya | cool, will check out freenx and tightvnc |
| 05:56.24 | myren | -rwsr-xr-- 1 root fuse 18K 2006-02-22 15:03 /usr/bin/fusermount .... why the fsck would someone in fuse group get a "permission denied: fusermount" |
| 05:56.39 | Boukensya | myren, I was under the impression that freenx was only windows as I use that for 2 of my linux boxes |
| 05:56.40 | peterS | myren: verify that you *are* in the group, with the 'id' command |
| 05:56.43 | dvm1981 | Boukensya: I think you just need now Tightvnc |
| 05:56.49 | peterS | myren: in case you forgot to log out / back in after adding yourself to the group |
| 05:56.51 | nvz | myren: check groups or id |
| 05:57.11 | myren | peterS: i'm in screen, i keep opening and closing new windows... that spawns new zsh's |
| 05:57.19 | Boukensya | dvm1981, will tightvnc is fine with me as long as it doesn't take over the session and it creates a new login type session, does it do that? (: |
| 05:57.37 | dvm1981 | Boukensya: It take the session over |
| 05:57.38 | myren | but evidently its not enough |
| 05:57.43 | peterS | myren: yes but the screen process that *spawns* new zshes inherited its own security context when it started up, so it passes that on to its children |
| 05:57.54 | dondelelcaro | myren: unless you make them login shells, it won't be enough. |
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| 05:57.55 | Virtual | how do I install a .diff patch ? |
| 05:57.56 | dvm1981 | Boukensya: So that it's look that you're working on you're computer |
| 05:58.13 | myren | i am not aware of this "security context" of whcih you speak, although I am coming to respect its powers |
| 05:58.31 | myren | i suppose apps start masked for all privledges, and then it just starts subtracting |
| 05:58.35 | Boukensya | yeah, but if my wife wants to use my computer the same time I am using it remotely its not possible |
| 05:58.36 | peterS | myren: by security context I mean UID, GID, and extra groups the process is a member of. this stuff is all per-process, not really per-user |
| 05:58.47 | dvm1981 | Boukensya: http://www.tightvnc.com/screenshots.html |
| 05:58.53 | nvz | Virtual: cd /source; patch -p1 /path/to/patch.diff |
| 05:58.57 | peterS | myren: it's only per-user because the 'login' process, which runs as root, sets your shell up to be in the appropriate groups |
| 05:59.02 | nvz | Virtual: that kind of thing.. man patch |
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| 05:59.21 | myren | I dont think tightvnc has a rdp client, thats what he needs to allow multiple windows sessions |
| 05:59.30 | nvz | Virtual: you need the source code and you have to patch it and recompile the program |
| 05:59.31 | peterS | myren: since login runs as root, it gets to put you in whatever groups it wants to. it reads /etc/passwd and /etc/group to decide which ones to put you in. |
| 05:59.32 | myren | tightvnc-server on windows just captures the active session, irrc |
| 05:59.55 | myren | peterS: makes sense, thanks |
| 06:00.12 | peterS | myren: but once login has passed control on to your shell (and the shell passes control to 'screen'), no more group membership updates happen, no matter what occurs in /etc/passwd or /etc/group |
| 06:00.13 | dvm1981 | Boukensya: Also look for 'Putty', 'winscp' or so. |
| 06:00.17 | peterS | myren: anyway. that's why. |
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| 06:00.26 | myren | peters: any way to force a login? |
| 06:00.31 | myren | err |
| 06:00.42 | Boukensya | cool thanks dvm1981 |
| 06:00.45 | peterS | myren: there is the 'newgrp' command, which runs as root and spawns a new shell with new group memberships |
| 06:00.46 | myren | even the xterms i'm opening in openbox inheret the original security permissions |
| 06:01.09 | peterS | myren: right, because xterm is launched by xsession which was already set up with its group memberships |
| 06:01.11 | pmallapp | #quit |
| 06:01.36 | peterS | myren: or, more likely, xterm is launched by your window manager which was launched by xsession. which was launched by xdm or gdm or whatever. xdm/gdm set your groups up. |
| 06:01.46 | nvz | myren: try su - user, where user is your user name |
| 06:01.51 | myren | peterS: yeah, exactly |
| 06:02.02 | nvz | I think making a login shell does the same thing as loggin out |
| 06:02.06 | nvz | not positive though |
| 06:02.23 | peterS | myren: 'newgrp' runs as root and spawns a new shell. but I think it's limited to putting you in a group for which you know the password. most groups in /etc/group don't have passwords so this rarely applies. |
| 06:03.08 | myren | dddaaaaammmmn do i love fuse |
| 06:03.11 | myren | at least when it works. ;-] |
| 06:03.34 | myren | thanks a bundle peterS, this is so damned sweet |
| 06:03.41 | peterS | nvz: not directly. on some OSes, I forget whether debian is one of them, you can run 'login myusername' and the login process will effectively log you out on the spot, then take your password and give you a new shell. and since that runs as root it resets your group memberships |
| 06:03.43 | mbishop | anyone use mrxvt? |
| 06:03.47 | peterS | myren: heh, cool |
| 06:04.00 | nvz | peterS: I was thinking any login shell would do it |
| 06:04.15 | unstable | !tell mbishop about anyone |
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| 06:04.21 | peterS | nvz: well, just running a shell can't do much since the shell doesn't run as root, so it doesn't get to decide what groups it wants to be in |
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| 06:04.43 | peterS | nvz: you need the help of something running as root - be that 'login' or 'xdm' or what have you |
| 06:04.51 | peterS | (or 'su') |
| 06:05.23 | mbishop | well then, anyone know how to get mrxvt to stop drawing that dotted line around tabs? |
| 06:06.39 | mustaqila | So nobody's able to help with my problem then? |
| 06:06.41 | nvz | peterS: it works.. type id, su root, and add your user to a group, and exit, then type id again.. still same as before.. then su - peterS or whatever, and then id again |
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| 06:07.00 | peterS | nvz: yes that's because you're running su. not because you're running a new login shell. |
| 06:07.07 | unstable | mbishop: man mrxvt; also cd /usr/share/doc/mrxvt and read those docs |
| 06:07.33 | mbishop | unstable: it's not defined in the man page, and the faq on their site mentions it, but not how to enable/disable, but I'll check the docs |
| 06:07.36 | peterS | su has the power to change group memberships - a login shell on its own would not have that power |
| 06:07.52 | nvz | peterS: well duh.. heh he was bitching like he didnt want to logout of X right now, and I told him just to su - his user and be done with it :P |
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| 06:07.59 | unstable | mbishop: maybe you have to edit the code yourself and recompile |
| 06:08.06 | maheem | Modem problem.Dial from GNOME. Modem dial-up, connecting and connect die |
| 06:08.31 | peterS | nvz: I could be mistaken but I think just 'su youruser' without the "-" also works. |
| 06:08.33 | maheem | In LOG wrote LCP problem |
| 06:08.51 | nvz | /bin/su |
| 06:08.56 | nvz | -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 23416 May 18 2005 /bin/su |
| 06:09.11 | nvz | peterS: probably because ^^ |
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| 06:09.54 | peterS | nvz: yes, su requires the setuid bit in order to do its job (that job mainly being about changing your UID, but also about changing group memberships) |
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| 06:10.30 | nvz | sudo is su's momma |
| 06:10.45 | stouset | nvz: Nah, sudo is su's stepchild. |
| 06:10.56 | peterS | does novell ship a utility called SuDO? |
| 06:11.11 | myren | is there a convenient way to run multiple patterns in a single grep? |
| 06:11.15 | stouset | peterS: SuRE. |
| 06:11.22 | nvz | novell still exists? |
| 06:11.32 | stouset | myren: egrep "(pat1|pat2|pat3)" is what I use. |
| 06:11.36 | myren | i often have like | grep "^foo" | grep bar | grep -v "cas$" |
| 06:11.39 | unstable | myren: You should learn awk/sed/grep |
| 06:11.46 | Zugschlus | Agrajag-: you need to choose a non-local conftype, see man update-exim4.conf, or use dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 06:11.53 | myren | i've been meaning to learn awk/sed for so long |
| 06:11.55 | unstable | myren: Or just learn pearl which is all of those, plus bourne shell plus c |
| 06:11.58 | unstable | perl* |
| 06:12.09 | stouset | unstable: Or Ruby, which is Perl without the $. |
| 06:12.27 | dvm1981 | and Python? |
| 06:12.35 | Zugschlus | mustaqila: that's only a warning |
| 06:12.38 | dvm1981 | Some comments? |
| 06:13.04 | dvm1981 | But OT, but i use that one for the most task now, a bit easyer |
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| 06:13.20 | nvz | python has really good documentation. |
| 06:14.00 | myren | python / ruby / perl just arent as convenient |
| 06:14.10 | dvm1981 | Perso, I find that we not talk many about Python. |
| 06:14.25 | myren | there's just so much impedance mismatch between program space and your filesystem |
| 06:14.34 | myren | fs and other executables |
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| 06:14.56 | myren | one day when we have a rock-tastic object shell. ;-] |
| 06:15.26 | dvm1981 | myren: Python is the last one. I would not say "LAST one", but the technologie, the facilities, the power etc. So in that language he have try to do a bit better, or correct older problems |
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| 06:15.46 | jm_ | myren: or use glark |
| 06:16.00 | buu | Gah |
| 06:16.15 | buu | What package has documentation for the various c functions and libraries? |
| 06:16.47 | jm_ | manpages-dev for libc, as for other C funcitons, relevant -dev packages if they have man pages |
| 06:16.51 | unstable | libc6-dev |
| 06:16.51 | jm_ | functions even |
| 06:17.12 | dvm1981 | Not know that one :-/ glark, freshmeat'ing |
| 06:17.21 | jm_ | dvm1981: it's in Debian |
| 06:17.42 | nvz | real men program in brainfuck http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/bf/ or whitespace http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/explanation.php |
| 06:17.59 | stouset | nvz: I find whitespace more comforting than brainfuck. |
| 06:18.10 | dvm1981 | Okay, i have understand, apt-get :-) |
| 06:18.23 | dvm1981 | Just to see what about it... |
| 06:18.24 | stouset | nvz: sometimes I break out some paper and write pseudocode on it in whitespace. |
| 06:18.32 | nvz | heh |
| 06:18.50 | myren | uhh, sorry to fuel the obvious/silly "learn awk/sed" thing, but is there any easy way to remove the frist two characters of every line form a file? |
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| 06:19.03 | nvz | I write psuedocode a lot since I dont have much programming experience |
| 06:19.15 | myren | jm_: looks promising (and easier), i'll definatley check it out |
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| 06:19.40 | klaxian | which do you recommend? phpgroupware or egroupware or neither? |
| 06:19.42 | stouset | myren: cat file | sed -e "s/..(.*)/\1/" |
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| 06:20.21 | jm_ | myren: sed 's/^..//' |
| 06:20.33 | stouset | jm_: Your sed-fu beats mine :\ |
| 06:20.54 | stouset | jm_: Especially since mine won't work. Bleh. Yours should have been the obvious approach anyway. |
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| 06:21.42 | jm_ | stouset: it's really nifty tool, I'm always amazed at the examples and simplicity of some of them on seders web page (sokoban is awesome) |
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| 06:24.06 | dvm1981 | glark look and work nice :-() |
| 06:25.52 | nvz | oh man, that whitespace shit cracks me the fuck up.. to just see a detailed explanation of a program on a website, and have a link to view the source, and it loads a blank page is fucking hilerious |
| 06:26.45 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 06:26.45 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 06:26.59 | myren | parrot, the perl6 vm, has got like 5 obfuscation languages |
| 06:27.08 | dondelelcaro | right |
| 06:27.33 | nvz | and the "advantages |
| 06:27.49 | nvz | " section is funny as hell too.. just print it out and delete the file, and type it in later :P |
| 06:27.53 | dvm1981 | So it's normal that i can not work good with perl? Im not a programmer! I like it, it's all |
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| 06:29.17 | myren | dvm1981: if you dont mind my asking, what is your native language? |
| 06:29.29 | dvm1981 | myren: Dutch |
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| 06:30.02 | dvm1981 | myren: Nederlands, it's not Deutch |
| 06:30.11 | myren | perl is natrually chaotic. the expression we'd use is 'riding the tiger'... |
| 06:30.19 | dvm1981 | Dutch == Nederlands |
| 06:30.20 | myren | the ant nods |
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| 06:31.12 | dvm1981 | myren: Yes i understand, an reason why i have some troubles to use it and prefer and other tool like Python |
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| 06:32.40 | tidyup | Hi all, I'm interested in using deb & evms (with SATA drives) - has anyone had any experiences they can share? |
| 06:32.59 | nvz | google.com |
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| 06:33.24 | nvz | we dont do sharing, caring, nurturing, bonding... etc here |
| 06:33.35 | wendell3_ | Hey do you guys know of any other hosted services besides Serverbeach that offer Debian boxes? |
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| 06:33.45 | wendell3_ | Apparently serverbeach only has 10Mbit ports on their Debian boxes |
| 06:33.52 | dondelelcaro | wendell3_: dreamhost does |
| 06:34.17 | wendell3_ | dondelelcaro: Ah, Dreamhost. Haven't used them in a while. |
| 06:34.23 | myren | anyone in here a DCCP fan? |
| 06:34.24 | wendell3_ | dondelelcaro: Their dedicated boxes are decent? |
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| 06:34.33 | myren | someone was trying to get me to use DCCP over sctp a while ago |
| 06:34.36 | dondelelcaro | wendell3_: no clue, you can ask them though.. |
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| 06:34.37 | myren | i cant remember why |
| 06:36.34 | tidyup | nvz: thanks, I assume thats a no... |
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| 06:38.55 | nonix4 | Is loopback-mounting an LVM system stored on a partition included in a disk image (or multiple disk images) a sane/doable idea? |
| 06:39.00 | nvz | tidyup: we answer specific questions here. most of us are too busy to share tales and if not the rest of the 600+ people here dont want to hear it |
| 06:39.23 | nvz | tidyup: if people wanted to share that stuff they would have made a webpage or blog and google would find it |
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| 06:43.48 | tidyup | nvz: sorry to bother you. I'll keep looking. |
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| 06:45.50 | dvm1981 | !tell ram__ram_away about away |
| 06:48.01 | SimonRaven | that's not an /away message |
| 06:50.37 | dvm1981 | But he use 'ram__ram_away' and was like one, and like i have see it here some time's today |
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| 06:51.26 | SimonRaven | so? it's not like it was an away message. ... |
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| 06:52.21 | dvm1981 | SimonRaven: No, sorry. I was thinking that it was been an away message... |
| 06:52.56 | SimonRaven | it's ok, just wanted you to be clear on it |
| 06:53.32 | dvm1981 | SimonRaven: Sorry man :-/ |
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| 06:54.47 | nonix4 | Which versions of dd (if any) are able to seek to offsets >4G on 32-bit archs? |
| 06:56.00 | SimonRaven | no worries |
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| 06:56.25 | SimonRaven | good question. man page helpful maybe? |
| 06:56.29 | SimonRaven | nonix4: ^^ |
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| 06:59.19 | nonix4 | SimonRaven: nope, does not document that - given that dd tends to fail silently (read: read/write trash) for unsupported values, I'd consider that to be a relatively major bug |
| 07:00.42 | dondelelcaro | nonix4: the version we distribute shouldn't have that bug |
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| 07:01.57 | nonix4 | dondelelcaro: hmm, maybe I was just using an old distro :-) |
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| 07:06.28 | nonix4 | dondelelcaro: As of coreutils 5.2.1-2 ? |
| 07:06.59 | dondelelcaro | nonix4: 5.94-1 is the version I have |
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| 07:09.18 | nonix4 | dondelelcaro: as I said, old one... but still, the bug was in the wetware driving "bc" to calculate the correct seek offset :-) |
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| 07:31.25 | nayyares | hi |
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| 07:31.38 | dvm1981 | ho |
| 07:31.40 | dvm1981 | :-) |
| 07:32.39 | dos000__ | hy, i am trying to *remotly* move my sarge system install onto a different hdd i have on the same disk using debootstrap. since i copied the kernel over is the initrd image going to still work with the other hdd ? |
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| 07:33.22 | jetscreamer | should as long as it's not a custom |
| 07:34.13 | dos000__ | jetscreamer, it came from the installer. i was wondering if i have to make another image while chrooted in the 2nd hdd install. |
| 07:34.34 | dos000__ | going to reboot soon |
| 07:34.39 | jetscreamer | long as the arch is the same you shouldn't |
| 07:35.04 | nayyares | i work in a university and our administrations wants me to track out that which client-machines is accessing certain research-journals, they want the client IP, possible it name, and the number of time the site is visited, and if possible the information can be displayed using web-interface, our outgoing traffice is behind proxy, is there any monitoring system available for this sort of work? |
| 07:35.36 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: uh... you should tell your administration that that's not a bright idea |
| 07:36.11 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: checking out who is accessing which research journals is almost definetly not something that your faculty, students, or grad students will be happy about |
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| 07:36.26 | nayyares | dondelelcaro, they even planing to give increament on these hits result basis :) |
| 07:36.58 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: sorry, I can't parse that last bit |
| 07:37.05 | dos000__ | nayyares, why are they doing so ? |
| 07:37.24 | dondelelcaro | I know here the faculty would almost instantly vote to remove the administration in question |
| 07:38.21 | nayyares | dondelelcaro, most of the faculty is not doing research, while they get pay for this :) |
| 07:38.38 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: they get pay for what? |
| 07:38.58 | dos000__ | ah ! |
| 07:39.03 | nayyares | is there any monitor system which can log certain website hits? |
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| 07:39.34 | dos000__ | this feels like helping a fashist regime ! |
| 07:39.37 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: there may be, but since it's an invasion of your user's privacy to do so, it's not something that we're going to advertise. |
| 07:39.51 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: try talking to your vendor |
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| 07:40.03 | nayyares | dondelelcaro, for doing research, atleast effort to do that, but they d'nt. |
| 07:40.26 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: well, tell them that nothing you know of exists |
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| 07:40.58 | nayyares | dondelelcaro, :), but i have to find it out, and #debian is my first step for starting any search ;) |
| 07:41.04 | dos000__ | nayyares, you can always put key loggers in the machines hein ... why stop invading ! |
| 07:41.39 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: well, we don't know, and moreover we wouldn't say even if we did... it's a reprehensible thing to do, especially in a research institution |
| 07:41.53 | nayyares | dos000_, we are just interested in hits for journals, key logers will even snatch their password etc. and that is not our interest |
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| 07:43.07 | dondelelcaro | nayyares: if you're interested in how many visits to the journals you are getting, your journal should provide you information on how many articles were retrieved using your site license |
| 07:43.36 | dos000__ | nayyares, to me if you are invading (whithout repercussion) might as well go all the way. at least they will realize they are crossing the line |
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| 07:45.50 | dos000__ | nayyares, btw anyone can circumvent this type of thing ... you cant stop (all) people from doing "things" |
| 07:45.51 | nayyares | :) |
| 07:46.34 | nayyares | dos000_, yeah, i understand, but i am paid for doing these sort of job :) so lets see...! |
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| 07:47.33 | solemnwarning | are there any packages on apt for taking the auido from an avi vid and encoding it into an mp3? |
| 07:47.51 | jetscreamer | many |
| 07:48.00 | solemnwarning | name one? |
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| 07:48.01 | jetscreamer | avidemux is one |
| 07:48.12 | jetscreamer | but it's on marillat not stock sources iirc |
| 07:48.12 | sparr | I work for tips, recieve an hourly wage, and win/lose money playing poker. Can anyone recommend a good program for keeping track of my income? |
| 07:48.21 | jetscreamer | gnucash? |
| 07:48.26 | solemnwarning | i have marillat :) |
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| 07:50.44 | dos000__ | solemnwarning, cant you do that with mplayer ? |
| 07:50.48 | Vooloo | is there a dpkg logger that logs all changes over a period of time? like a changelog? |
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| 07:51.45 | liable | Vooloo: newer versions of dpkg log installs and such. |
| 07:51.52 | dos000__ | sparr, wife v 1.0 |
| 07:52.22 | solemnwarning | hmm |
| 07:52.46 | solemnwarning | avidemux just says error when i try to pipe audio to lame |
| 07:52.59 | jetscreamer | k3b does video encoding even... i never knew that btw |
| 07:54.07 | jetscreamer | not sure, i just know it does what i want it to. http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/doc/en/ |
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| 07:54.40 | sparr | dos000_: i hear the TCO is pretty steep |
| 07:55.13 | dos000__ | which locales corresponds to normal (us) english ? there is so many of them with no explanation when i did base-config |
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| 07:55.30 | jetscreamer | en_us or so |
| 07:55.47 | jetscreamer | do dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 07:56.06 | dos000__ | jetscreamer, ther is 3 of them ??? |
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| 07:56.57 | jetscreamer | there's the utf one also... then i 'think' en is like an overgroup or something |
| 07:57.10 | dos000__ | jetscreamer, i think base-config calls it also. so i have 3 choices for en_us |
| 07:57.10 | jetscreamer | shouldn't be 3 en_us's |
| 07:58.02 | jetscreamer | 8859-1 |
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| 07:58.33 | dos000__ | jetscreamer, en_us iso8859-1 , en_us iso8859-15 iso8859-15 and en_us utf-8 |
| 07:58.41 | jetscreamer | ^^ |
| 07:59.22 | dos000__ | jetscreamer, again ? |
| 08:00.29 | jetscreamer | 8859-1 |
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| 08:00.39 | dos000__ | ok |
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| 08:04.58 | dos000__ | finally rebooting ... |
| 08:05.03 | freeone3000 | I am now one of the people on unstable. :0 |
| 08:05.06 | freeone3000 | *:) |
| 08:05.59 | SlayerXP | freeone3000: you're etierh really skilled, really brave, or really stupid. |
| 08:05.59 | SlayerXP | either |
| 08:06.02 | dos000__ | freeone3000, dark side have seen it looks |
| 08:06.22 | freeone3000 | I'll go with brave. |
| 08:07.41 | weasel_00 | mmmmm hmmm much jealousy i sense in this one, brave on that is, scared one is this, much change will come i see... |
| 08:08.16 | tarzeau | !seen abrotman |
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| 08:11.58 | freeone3000 | 32 minutes of updates remaining... |
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| 08:13.53 | Sonny | Hi, I have recompiled my own kernel... now I want to recompile another one.... what should I do to start a clean recompile? |
| 08:14.06 | tarzeau | Sonny: make-kpkg clean? |
| 08:14.40 | Sonny | just this? |
| 08:14.56 | tarzeau | if you use make-kpkg, yes |
| 08:15.08 | Sonny | tarzeau: So I dont need to create the linux link,,,, etc |
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| 08:16.03 | tarzeau | Sonny: you build using make kernel package or manual? |
| 08:16.13 | tarzeau | Sonny: is this a linux kernel? or something else? |
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| 08:16.31 | Sonny | using |
| 08:16.35 | Sonny | make-kpkg |
| 08:17.09 | Sonny | I downloaded the linux-source, create the linux link, make xconfig, make-kpkg |
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| 08:18.37 | jm_ | with 2.6 it's enough if you reconfigure it for the second machine and simply compile it again |
| 08:18.38 | dos000__ | jetscreamer, that server refused to reboot :-( |
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| 08:25.28 | dos000__ | is there a way i can see what went wrong in a previous reboot .. i had to reboot the machine remotely |
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| 08:26.04 | kevix | dos000__: check /var/log/messages ? |
| 08:26.18 | jm_ | dos000_: dmesg, also enable bootlogd |
| 08:26.33 | Seb | damn that ubuntu bug sure is a downer :> |
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| 08:26.47 | jm_ | well dmesg as in the info stored in /var/log/(syslog|messages|whatever) |
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| 08:26.56 | markw_ | Seb: redhat's kickstart does the same thing. |
| 08:27.03 | Seb | double damn |
| 08:27.04 | Seb | :> |
| 08:27.40 | kevix | Seb: if its what I read, it seems it does not effect all versions? |
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| 08:28.05 | Seb | kevix: apparently not. The more recent ones don't have it, but still. |
| 08:28.43 | markw_ | Seb: looks like they've fixed it, it's encrypted. |
| 08:28.49 | markw_ | for centos at least. |
| 08:28.52 | kevix | Seb: that bug was from u's version of debconf? |
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| 08:29.06 | Seb | not sure about the specifics |
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| 08:29.17 | Seb | but I'd guess yeah |
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| 08:29.42 | jm_ | kickstart? that's automated installer, does Ubuntu have something similar? |
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| 08:31.45 | Seb | i don't think the uuntu bug is about an automated installer at all |
| 08:31.48 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 08:31.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd148 is <Laney> alright lads. i set my root shell to /sbin/nolgin, but apparently that means i can't use "su -c" and sudo isn't installed. how can i change it back? :( |
| 08:31.56 | dorel_ | after i put my mounts on fstab, how do i re-initiate fstab? |
| 08:32.08 | Seb | dorel_: mount everything you mean ? mount -a |
| 08:32.21 | dorel_ | a sec, ill try it |
| 08:32.24 | Seb | dorel_: or you can mount /the/mountpoint for all the partition you added |
| 08:32.42 | Seb | dorel_: mount -a will only work if you set your new partitions to be mounted at boot time |
| 08:32.53 | dorel_ | that works, thanks :) |
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| 08:35.07 | dorel_ | Seb: im mounting a chroot fresh debian install on another dist to start migrating. is it a good idea to mount the host os as proc for the debian chroot one to start doing some basic servers install or not? (apache, mysql, postfix, etc) |
| 08:35.45 | Seb | dorel_: "as proc" ? |
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| 08:36.35 | Sonny | do you know if toshiba_acpi works with kernel 2.6.15? |
| 08:37.02 | dorel_ | Seb: like doing on the host linux os in fstab: proc /var/debian proc defaults 0 0 |
| 08:37.26 | dorel_ | Seb: so that all of the proc dir is also present on the debian chroot... im just asking if it's required for some servers install and configuration or would it cause problem if im doing it |
| 08:37.48 | Seb | dorel_: i wouldn't think /proc would be a good idea to mount on a foreign system |
| 08:37.52 | Seb | never tried it though :> |
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| 08:38.07 | dorel_ | lol ok |
| 08:38.13 | dorel_ | maybe ill unmount it :P |
| 08:38.25 | Seb | heh |
| 08:38.29 | dorel_ | cause im on debian doing `uanem -a` and im seeing the other os's info :P |
| 08:38.37 | dorel_ | which is ofcourse coming from it's proc :P |
| 08:38.43 | Seb | why not cp -a / over to the new disk ? |
| 08:39.21 | dorel_ | it's a whole different s |
| 08:39.23 | dorel_ | *os |
| 08:39.45 | Seb | then I'm not sure |
| 08:39.52 | dorel_ | alright cool |
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| 08:41.26 | jelly | dorel_: wtf, if you want /proc in chroot, just mount it. it can be mounted multiple times without problems. |
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| 08:50.38 | Horwitz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:52.03 | rAz_ | hello, i was looking for the ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable section : is that Sarge SID or Experimental Folder ? |
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| 08:52.31 | rAz_ | tough sid |
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| 08:54.08 | Humanoid | What do they mean in the topic by "Some mirrors borked"? Were they hacked into or something? |
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| 08:56.15 | revmoo | hey, i need to mount a smb share on a windows machine with no password, i added it to fstab but i get a failed error when it boots |
| 08:56.49 | dvm1981 | On the 'debian-fr' the OPS abuse really!!! |
| 08:57.02 | rAz_ | lol |
| 08:57.19 | rAz_ | its a long time i left #debian-fr |
| 08:57.21 | matik | revmoo: any spaces in the smb path name |
| 08:57.28 | rAz_ | they arent very helpfull |
| 08:57.30 | revmoo | no |
| 08:57.37 | revmoo | its //192.168.0.2/Musik |
| 08:57.46 | dvm1981 | Again banned, FUCK the guys there on 'debian-fr'. The guys there abuse really of his power!!! |
| 08:57.48 | revmoo | i get tree failed error or something...its not showing up in dmesg |
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| 08:57.55 | rAz_ | dvm1981, :) |
| 08:57.56 | revmoo | it asks for the pass and i hit enter |
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| 08:58.02 | revmoo | this works with smbmount from the console.. |
| 08:58.15 | dvm1981 | rAz_: arachne?? |
| 08:58.16 | rAz_ | the only place to be helped is here dvm1981 |
| 08:58.33 | revmoo | for example, its in fstab so if i do mount /mp3 it works just not automatically at boot |
| 08:58.35 | rAz_ | arachne ? :) whats that |
| 08:58.50 | dvm1981 | Yes, an fucking 'debian-fr' place is that, here it's better and serious people! |
| 08:59.07 | rAz_ | serious indeed |
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| 08:59.16 | Humanoid | I can't find the list of mirrors for apt-get. Where is the list? |
| 08:59.43 | matik | revmoo: what looks the fstab entry like |
| 09:00.00 | revmoo | # /etc/fstab: static file system information. |
| 09:00.00 | revmoo | # |
| 09:00.00 | revmoo | # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> |
| 09:00.00 | revmoo | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
| 09:00.00 | revmoo | /dev/hdc1 / ext3 noatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
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| 09:00.15 | revmoo | sorry, should have known better |
| 09:00.20 | djp | why do i receive the message "usb 1-1.5 control timeout on ep10" at boot time? the message repeats itself a number of times (approx. 10x) and then boot proceedure continues. |
| 09:00.22 | revmoo | //192.168.0.2/Musik/mp3smbfsro,user00 |
| 09:01.06 | dvm1981 | rAz_: That's the guy that have bane me. The last time i was banned, it was for more than 5 weeks, an i have do nothing bad. The people there are rasist to people of Belguim, the OPs there are people from France an ban all the people of Belguim. Look to the counter 77 people online there on 'debian-fr' and look here! There is an need to survey 'debian-fr'!!! |
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| 09:01.23 | revmoo | how about this, how do i make kde launch somethingwhen my system starts |
| 09:01.28 | revmoo | ill just have it run a script to mount it |
| 09:01.51 | dvm1981 | Please people that have the power, look to 'debian-fr' please, really |
| 09:02.01 | rAz_ | dvm1981, i am agree with you neighboor mate ;) |
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| 09:02.44 | rAz_ | i also met problm there.. and now i prefered keep my energy and try to ask solv problm here |
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| 09:04.18 | dondelelcaro | dvm1981: uh... issues with #debian-fr are wildly OT here... |
| 09:04.44 | dvm1981 | dondelelcaro: Yes, but people like you would not do, what he need to do! |
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| 09:06.32 | liable | Humanoid: debian.org has a list or if you just want to pick one, use apt-setup |
| 09:06.52 | dondelelcaro | !mirrors |
| 09:06.53 | dpkg | it has been said that debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 09:07.01 | nonix4 | Which fs fits which purpose(s) best? For example it looks like reiserfs is not a good choice for anything that wants to be read-only or have huge files... |
| 09:07.20 | liable | heh, should have known there was a factoid for it.. |
| 09:07.48 | karsten | Hrm. What's changed in audio between 2.6.8 and 2.6.15? Can't find /dev/mixer |
| 09:07.49 | djp | why do i receive the message "usb 1-1.5 control timeout on ep10" at boot time? the message repeats itself a number of times (approx. 10x) and then boot proceedure continues. |
| 09:08.01 | Kaishen | Hey, has anyone had this prpblem with KDE: Splash screen loads, gets to "initializing peripherals" then hard-locks the system? |
| 09:08.18 | karsten | There's dmmidi, midi, and rtc, group owned by audio. |
| 09:08.41 | jetscreamer | there is no apt-setup |
| 09:08.57 | jetscreamer | least not anymore |
| 09:09.19 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: it's still there in stable |
| 09:09.20 | liable | jetscreamer: eh? |
| 09:09.25 | karsten | Multiple sound drivers loaded: soundcore snd_timer snd_seq_device snd_rawmidi snd_pcm snd_page_alloc snd_cs46xx snd_ac97_codec snd_ac97_bus snd |
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| 09:09.37 | dondelelcaro | !+find bin/apt-setup stable |
| 09:09.39 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 09:09.51 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/apt-setup' (1): (/usr/sbin/apt-setup) in base/base-config. |
| 09:10.40 | streuner | jetscreamer: not in sid and etch, but in sarge |
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| 09:12.05 | Holborn | karsten: try to execute snddevices (/usr/share/alsa-base/snddevices)... from alsa-base |
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| 09:12.18 | Humanoid | I found the full list here: http://www.debian.org/mirror/mirrors_full |
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| 09:13.10 | karsten | Holborn: No such file. Should I have alsa installed then? I can't keep up with what's current sound pref in Debian. I thought it was OSS. |
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| 09:14.24 | karsten | Holborn: apt-cache search alsa | wc -l : 108 |
| 09:14.57 | Holborn | karsten: cat /proc/asound/version |
| 09:15.17 | karsten | Holborn: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC). |
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| 09:15.30 | streuner | karsten: apt-cache search women ;-) |
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| 09:15.56 | Holborn | karsten: no /usr/share/alsa-base/snddevices file? .. try to reinstall alsa-base then .. |
| 09:15.58 | liable | heh, i bet a few lonely geeks have done that before.. :) |
| 09:16.08 | karsten | streuner: I really hope that's not the answer to the question "how does a Debian dude find a date on a Friday night?" |
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| 09:16.19 | karsten | Holborn: Right, it's not currently installed. |
| 09:16.30 | karsten | streuner: cycle, flight-of-the-amazon-queen, and fml. |
| 09:17.11 | streuner | karsten: there is only one way, go out and do something? |
| 09:17.28 | karsten | Holborn: Do I want alsa-oss? |
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| 09:18.10 | karsten | Holborn: ... or any of the alsaplayer-* packages? |
| 09:18.11 | Holborn | karsten: yes ... if you use old programas |
| 09:18.24 | karsten | Holborn: I resemble that remark. |
| 09:18.34 | weedar | is there an "anti-grep"-function enabling you to filter out lines that contain a keyword? |
| 09:18.35 | Reilithion | I'm having a lot of trouble with the 'find' command. How do I find all files that belong to user bob that end in .png and do not reside in /home/bob/.thumbnails? |
| 09:18.37 | Holborn | karsten: alsaplayer is a player like xmms ... |
| 09:18.44 | jm_ | weedar: grep can do that |
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| 09:18.56 | karsten | Holborn: OK. |
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| 09:19.00 | jm_ | in fact, that's what grep was made for |
| 09:19.02 | weedar | wow, is there anything grep can't do? :) Thanks jm_ |
| 09:19.08 | karsten | weedar: grep -v |
| 09:19.14 | jm_ | weedar: you want to not display the lines matching a keywrod, right? |
| 09:19.17 | karsten | weedar: Wash windows and take out the garbage. |
| 09:19.19 | jm_ | keyword |
| 09:19.22 | weedar | exactly jm_ |
| 09:19.29 | jm_ | weedar: yeah, see what karsten told you |
| 09:20.04 | Administrator | Hello all, I've got a problem where my machine gets a DHCP assigned IP address, even though I've removed all references to DHCP from /etc/network/interfaces. It seems to happen when my router resets and the network connection gets interrupted. Any ideas why it would use DHCP instead of the static address? |
| 09:20.36 | karsten | Administrator: What OS? |
| 09:21.00 | fknwindz | karsten, Deb stable |
| 09:21.01 | karsten | Administrator: ... and could this be your router's IP and not your system's? |
| 09:21.02 | weedar | heh, I hope that nick wasn't refelecting what user you're using IRC with |
| 09:21.11 | karsten | fknwindz: OK. You're using a 'Doze account name. |
| 09:21.12 | fknwindz | weedar, it is |
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| 09:21.19 | karsten | !tell fknwindz about root |
| 09:21.21 | fknwindz | Yes, cursed it already ;) |
| 09:21.44 | fknwindz | This is machine is cheerfully known as "cannon fodder" |
| 09:21.49 | weedar | what fknwindz said -^ |
| 09:21.55 | Kaishen | Has anyone had this prpblem with KDE: Splash screen loads, gets to "initializing peripherals" then hard-locks the system? |
| 09:21.57 | karsten | fknwindz: Post your /etc/network/interfaces file to paster. /msg dpkg paster |
| 09:22.00 | weedar | err, karsten I mean.. |
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| 09:22.39 | Reilithion | I mean, I'd like to find the guy who wrote the 'find' program, and wring his geeky little neck, but I can't find him because the 'find' program is crap. |
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| 09:23.13 | karsten | Reilithion: Got a question hiding in there somewhere? |
| 09:23.24 | wireddd | Kaishen, that has happened to me before, but I can't remember what I did to fix it |
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| 09:23.30 | Reilithion | karsten, yeah. |
| 09:23.33 | Reilithion | I'm having a lot of trouble with the 'find' command. How do I find all files that belong to user bob that end in .png and do not reside in /home/bob/.thumbnails? |
| 09:24.05 | karsten | Reilithion: find / -name \*.png -user bob | grep -v /home/bob/\.thumbnails |
| 09:24.05 | Kaishen | wireddd: Damn. I tried deleting all the configurations in my home dir to fix it, but that didn't help. |
| 09:24.16 | karsten | Reilithion: ... there's an exclude syntax, that's a minute longer.... |
| 09:24.17 | phobo | is there an easy process for migrating exim3/imap/pop3/smtp set up on an older srage machine to a new exim4 setup on etch? |
| 09:24.29 | wireddd | Kaishen, let me think about it for a minute |
| 09:24.42 | Kaishen | wireddd: k thanks =) |
| 09:24.43 | Reilithion | karsten, ah. but I need the exclude syntax because I need to use -print0 |
| 09:25.13 | fknwindz | karsten: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2059 (/etc/network/interfaces) |
| 09:25.14 | wireddd | Kaishen, stable right? |
| 09:25.32 | Kaishen | wireddd: yeah. 3.1 r1 |
| 09:25.33 | karsten | Reilithion: OK. RTFM ;-) |
| 09:25.40 | slinn | how do i get the source of a package? |
| 09:25.42 | karsten | fknwindz: reading. |
| 09:25.52 | Reilithion | karsten, I tried various -prune expressions, but it either failed to exclude the directory, or it excluded everything |
| 09:25.54 | karsten | slinn: man aptitude / man apt-get |
| 09:25.56 | fknwindz | karsten: It resets to the correct static IP if I use ifdown/ifup btw |
| 09:26.11 | karsten | slinn: You need source entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and to request them via aptitude or apt-get. |
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| 09:26.32 | karsten | fknwindz: OK. When's your interface being set? What kind of device? |
| 09:26.45 | wireddd | Kaishen, my roommate said it has to do with udev |
| 09:26.46 | Reilithion | karsten, I did RTFM. It's rather greek to me. |
| 09:27.33 | fknwindz | karsten: It's a regular PCI nic. |
| 09:27.47 | Kaishen | wireddd: how so? |
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| 09:28.03 | hid3 | Morning everyone. I have a public/static IP and I'd like to forward a port to one of my internal machine. How can I do that? |
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| 09:29.46 | kimo | anyone knows of a good DVD-burner which will work with any old 2.4 kernel ? |
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| 09:30.43 | nayyares | dondelelcaro, :), you there? |
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| 09:31.52 | wombachi | why are there broken links on w.d.o/security, like www.debian.org/security/2006/dsa-993 ? |
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| 09:32.06 | pengol | hi there is it possible to set a newly created file permission in a diff patch file? |
| 09:32.28 | jetscreamer | kimo k3b |
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| 09:35.44 | weasel_00 | !tracert |
| 09:35.44 | dpkg | tracert is the correct cmd name for the incorrectly named traceroute |
| 09:35.59 | warhead | :-) |
| 09:36.01 | Maulkin | hid3: have a look on google for "port forwarding debian" |
| 09:36.24 | valdyn | wombachi: 988 is the latest dsa on that site.. |
| 09:36.42 | streuner | what's the port for CUPS again? |
| 09:36.51 | streuner | localhost:637? |
| 09:36.52 | liable | 631 |
| 09:36.59 | streuner | ah, thanks |
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| 09:37.02 | jm_ | streuner1: /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian |
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| 09:37.10 | jm_ | .gz |
| 09:37.24 | streuner | jm_: i know, but i need only the port |
| 09:37.31 | Maulkin | streuner: You can also find it in /etc/services :) |
| 09:37.38 | valdyn | wombachi: uh, even the numbering is wrong |
| 09:37.38 | jm_ | streuner: that document will tell you the port number |
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| 09:37.48 | fatal__ | better yet, use the service name! "ipp". |
| 09:38.00 | Chance | Hello, liable you around ? |
| 09:38.11 | wombachi | valdyn ? 988 is for squirrelmail. I see 989 for zoph, 919 for curl, then 990-995, but broken (404). |
| 09:38.13 | liable | er, yeah. |
| 09:38.31 | Chance | liable can i disturb you in private for 1 min related to the 2 days ago issue ? |
| 09:38.36 | valdyn | wombachi: zoph is broken too |
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| 09:38.53 | liable | Chance: ok |
| 09:38.57 | Chance | Thank you |
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| 09:39.37 | vyrus001 | any lib pcap users in here? i am using this => " pcap_loop(pcap_handle, -1, pcap_handler pcap_callback, NULL); " and i keep getting this => "sushi.c:48: error: syntax error before 'pcap_handler' " and the line before it is this => "pcap_handle = pcap_open_live(iface, PCAP_BUF, 0, 0, errbuf);"... anybody know whats going on ? |
| 09:39.48 | wombachi | valdyn sorry, I didnt understand you first. Where should I report all those 404 errors ? |
| 09:39.50 | valdyn | wombachi: i would check the mailing list instead |
| 09:40.10 | djp | when i edit an application launch command from the gnome menu (i add gksu before gnome-cups-manager) the gksu always disappears on a reboot. how can i make the change permanent? |
| 09:40.40 | oxigen | hi! with dpkg -L exim i get list of some files, how can i delete them in a debian way? |
| 09:40.53 | wombachi | valdyn I dont see anything about 404 on deb-security mailing list |
| 09:40.56 | jm_ | vyrus001: I use it |
| 09:41.10 | valdyn | wombachi: i meant check the ML for the advisories instead |
| 09:41.19 | valdyn | wombachi: no idea where you should report the problems |
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| 09:41.50 | vyrus001 | jm_: any idea where my syntax is wrong in my pcap loop call ? |
| 09:41.55 | jm_ | vyrus001: it should look like pcap_loop(pcap_handle, -1, pcap_callback, NULL); |
| 09:42.05 | wombachi | valdyn ok. I allways check advisories on ML first :) |
| 09:42.09 | vyrus001 | jm_: whn i do that i also get an err |
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| 09:42.15 | jm_ | vyrus001: what error? |
| 09:42.28 | vyrus001 | sushi.c:48: warning: passing argument 3 of 'pcap_loop' from incompatible pointer type |
| 09:42.39 | wombachi | perhaps should I simply webmaster@d.o ? |
| 09:42.45 | CzarnyZajaczek | hello |
| 09:42.48 | streuner | oxigen: you need a MTA in any case... |
| 09:42.54 | vyrus001 | jm_: my func prototype for the call back is void pcap_callback(const header, const packet); |
| 09:43.20 | streuner | oxigen: debian expect an MTA by default... |
| 09:43.35 | jm_ | vyrus001: that is wrong |
| 09:43.52 | Reilithion | How do I find all files that belong to user bob that end in .png and do not reside in /home/bob/.thumbnails and output the list as a null-delimited string or file? |
| 09:44.13 | vyrus001 | jm_: cool, whats wrong with it ? |
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| 09:44.28 | oxigen | streuner: yea, i mess things with exim and ssl and i want to do it from scratch... |
| 09:44.44 | CzarnyZajaczek | I have problem after upgraded sarge to etch - I cannot insmod isofs |
| 09:44.47 | CzarnyZajaczek | http://pastebin.com/599405 |
| 09:45.07 | wombachi | valdyn found: I'll use the debian-www ML. |
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| 09:45.11 | oxigen | streuner: anyway --purge did the job... |
| 09:45.19 | CzarnyZajaczek | on kernel 2.4 it works, but on 2.6 is this error |
| 09:45.21 | oxigen | streuner: thank you |
| 09:45.27 | valdyn | !insmod |
| 09:45.27 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet?. Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer |
| 09:45.28 | djp | when i edit an application launch command from the gnome menu (i add gksu before gnome-cups-manager) the gksu always disappears on a reboot. how can i make the change permanent? |
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| 09:45.52 | CzarnyZajaczek | dpkg: thanks |
| 09:45.52 | dpkg | pas de quoi, CzarnyZajaczek |
| 09:46.03 | streuner__ | oxigen: well, try 'apt-get -f install' now |
| 09:46.09 | valdyn | CzarnyZajaczek: why you cant just read the error message is a different story though ) |
| 09:46.47 | oxigen | streuner__ do you have some experience with ssl? |
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| 09:47.31 | valdyn | djp: you're trying to edit a root-owned menu entry? |
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| 09:47.33 | streuner__ | oxigen: ask in channel and avoid to ask people directly, but no. |
| 09:47.46 | dorel_ | on the new chro |
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| 09:47.49 | dorel_ | err,sorry |
| 09:47.57 | oxigen | streuner__ doh, thank you... :/ |
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| 09:48.14 | streuner__ | oxigen: sounds like a question for #apache? |
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| 09:48.22 | streuner__ | oxigen: server problem or client? |
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| 09:48.55 | oxigen | streuner__ i want to setup some secure mail relay from outside... |
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| 09:49.40 | streuner__ | oxigen: hm, i don't use exim, but postfix - workaround.org have some HOWTO's about... |
| 09:49.59 | CzarnyZajaczek | ok, now I have: http://pastebin.com/599414 |
| 09:50.00 | oxigen | streuner__ thank you! |
| 09:50.29 | CzarnyZajaczek | CDROM is ok, and /etc/fstab is o\also OK, cos it works under 2.4 |
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| 09:50.53 | streuner__ | oxigen: some secure mail relay would call 'smarthost', for example from your ISP |
| 09:51.18 | streuner__ | oxigen: you should be able to configure it without any HOWTO's |
| 09:51.38 | streuner__ | oxigen: it was in version 3 (exim) so at least... |
| 09:51.49 | oxigen | streuner__ heh, i'm not some expert as you can see :) |
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| 09:53.06 | streuner__ | oxigen: run 'dpkg-reconfigure exim-somesuch' and add the SMTP-Server (ISP) to the smarthost entry |
| 09:54.15 | oxigen | streuner__ ok thanks, i'll try... |
| 09:54.26 | liable | exim4-config. |
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| 09:54.43 | oxigen | liable, yes... |
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| 09:55.35 | dannythm | hi there |
| 09:55.40 | nvz | lil bit |
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| 09:56.14 | dannythm | I've been trying to upgrade from sarge to etch, but there's no way I can do it >< |
| 09:56.22 | nvz | oh well |
| 09:56.32 | oxigen | mail is sooo heavy to setup if you want something more than just local sending and receiving... |
| 09:56.44 | dannythm | it gives me an error while tryin g to upgrade the udev package |
| 09:56.58 | liable | oxigen: you wouldnt think something like email would be so hard eh? |
| 09:57.02 | fireba11 | oxigen: nope ... you just have to understand a bit fo how it works |
| 09:57.14 | liable | !udev 2.6.12 |
| 09:57.14 | dpkg | if you tried to upgrade udev and now get the message "udev requires a kernel >= 2.6.12, upgrade aborted.", you must install a 2.6.12 kernel before proceding. The recommended way to do this is to download a linux-image-2.6.12-1 .deb for your arch from ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/ and installing it with dpkg -i |
| 09:57.14 | Kaishen | Does anyone know the name of the dummy package for the 2.6 kernel? |
| 09:57.16 | dannythm | it says that it needs kernel 2.6.12 and I have 2.6.15 |
| 09:57.23 | nvz | oh this just in, shitty udev breaks etch, no story at 11 |
| 09:57.26 | fireba11 | oxigen: it's surprisingly complex for something you use every day though :-) |
| 09:57.29 | dannythm | oh |
| 09:57.42 | pengol | where do dpkg-buildpackage actually takes a package version number? |
| 09:57.55 | oxigen | yea, that's the word: surprisingly complex... |
| 09:58.07 | liable | thats two! |
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| 09:58.09 | dannythm | but now, whe I reboot, the keyboard don't responds on the consle |
| 09:58.21 | dannythm | I think I'll have to reinstall |
| 09:59.05 | hss | how can i find packages, which have rarely or never been used, to removed them? |
| 09:59.10 | dannythm | well... before things get worse... |
| 09:59.18 | dannythm | thanks!! |
| 09:59.25 | fireba11 | got a general question .. if you got large amounts of ram (that is is 4 GB and more) in a box, do you need to do anything for debian to be able to use it ? |
| 09:59.39 | nvz | hss: there generally isnt any system in place tracking your usage |
| 09:59.46 | liable | fireba11: just the kernel option i think. |
| 09:59.47 | jm_ | vyrus001: doesn't match required prototype |
| 09:59.51 | nayyares | i have installed xten soft-SIP phone that requires an older version of libstdc++, while if i remove the lated and install what xten requires my KDE Desktop hang out :( is there any way to have both library version same time? |
| 09:59.54 | nvz | hss: deborphan and debfoster may help though |
| 10:00.11 | vyrus001 | jm_: yea after rtfm ing it looks like i need 3 args |
| 10:00.16 | liable | does popcon do that? |
| 10:00.17 | weasel_00 | can anyone else reach www.updaddy.com ?? |
| 10:00.24 | streuner__ | hss: you could remove libs you don't need (/msg dpkg deborphan), but just 'dpkg -l | less' and decide that for your own |
| 10:00.31 | GoAuLd | fireba11, there is an option in the kernel to enable that, i dont know if precompiled kernels have it by default |
| 10:00.39 | vyrus001 | jm_: only problem is im passing NULL as my last arg in my loop call so what do i pass as the first arg... NULL ? |
| 10:00.42 | weasel_00 | i think my host died lol |
| 10:00.46 | vyrus001 | jm_: sorry im a bit n00bish :P |
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| 10:01.26 | fireba11 | liable: so you need to recompile kernel with that option changed ? |
| 10:01.26 | Keefe | how do you maximize the partition size when making an ext3 fs with mke2fs? |
| 10:01.28 | nvz | hss: you should try clearing your cache and such before moving to removal of packages for saving space.. you probably couldnt gain more than 1gb at most removing packages and it would probably take removing 500 or so |
| 10:01.42 | liable | fireba11: grep the config and see if its enabled |
| 10:01.52 | silensius | for security i must move a user on a usbhd , how this user can login and acces to his home |
| 10:01.53 | liable | in debian. |
| 10:02.22 | fireba11 | liable: could you tell me how ? never messed with kernels so far ... :-D |
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| 10:03.22 | liable | fireba11: grep MEM /boot/config-foo |
| 10:03.44 | jm_ | vyrus001: pcap.h lists it |
| 10:03.47 | Chance | anyone knows what's wrong with http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages page ? |
| 10:04.26 | vyrus001 | jm_: hm.. ill atempt to look at the .h directly and see if i can rtfm some more, thanx for the help |
| 10:04.40 | hss | i thought of something like 'ls -ltu' |
| 10:04.41 | liable | p.d.o down again? |
| 10:05.00 | Kaishen | liable: yeah. i just tried to get to the list |
| 10:05.10 | liable | Chance: ^^ |
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| 10:06.13 | Kaishen | It keeps timing out. |
| 10:06.55 | liable | cant ping it either. |
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| 10:07.30 | Maulkin | Seems so. |
| 10:07.33 | fireba11 | liable: it says COMFIG_HIGHMEM=y and CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y is set but CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set ... so i guess for > 4 GB i have to recompile ? |
| 10:08.38 | wombachi | fireba11 yes |
| 10:08.39 | liable | fireba11: i think, lemme read the doc. |
| 10:08.50 | GoAuLd | fireba11,CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y is for hardware with $GB or plus, CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is for more than 64 GB |
| 10:08.55 | GoAuLd | u dont have to recompile |
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| 10:09.25 | fireba11 | GoAuLd: ah .. that#s nice then i van use default sarve 2.6.8 kernel :-) |
| 10:09.34 | fireba11 | sarge even |
| 10:09.34 | jm_ | vyrus001: you mean for callback? first is optional argument you can pass to callback, last one is the actual packet |
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| 10:09.41 | ye_old | hi all, is xgl planned to be shipped in debian in the near future?(opensuse 10.1 comes with it in april). |
| 10:09.41 | wombachi | oops sorry fireba11 I was wrong |
| 10:10.23 | vyrus001 | jm_: right, im not using the optional one i just need to know what a practical implemntation of my callback would look like, im looking at the prototype right now but i cant seem to make mine to match |
| 10:10.26 | fireba11 | wombachi: no sweat :-) |
| 10:10.28 | vyrus001 | jm_: like i said... n00b :P |
| 10:10.57 | fireba11 | i will need a box with a load of ram for VMs soon so i want to find out what i have to do bevore purchasing it :-) |
| 10:12.02 | liable | fireba11: err, 4G is between 1-4, 64G is between 4-64. |
| 10:12.45 | fireba11 | liable: hm .. thought so ^^ |
| 10:12.45 | liable | so if more than 4, recompile. |
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| 10:13.17 | GoAuLd | yes, i was wrong sorry |
| 10:13.37 | jm_ | vyrus001: void foo(u_char *arg, const struct pcap_pkthdr *pkthdr, const u_char *pkt) - just like in pcap.h |
| 10:14.32 | vyrus001 | jm_: so my call would look like foo(const struct pcap_pkthdr myvalue, const u_char myothervalue) ? |
| 10:15.10 | Keefe | how do I reduce the percentage of blocks reserved for superuser when i mke2fs? |
| 10:15.15 | djp | why do i get a control timeout on ep10 on odd occassions, with regards my bluetooth dongle? |
| 10:15.19 | jm_ | vyrus001: no, that's a function prototype, pcap will call it ;) |
| 10:15.19 | fireba11 | liable: okay .. since it's just one setting it should be pretty easy .. |
| 10:15.32 | nvz | Keefe: read the manpage |
| 10:15.39 | jm_ | Keefe: man tune2fs, man mkfs.ext2 |
| 10:15.43 | vyrus001 | jm_: AHH so i need to pass the prototype EXACTLY |
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| 10:15.58 | Keefe | thanks |
| 10:16.03 | jm_ | vyrus001: no, I think you don't understand ;) |
| 10:16.13 | wombachi | fireba11 fireba11 I confirm: you'll have to recompile for 4+Go |
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| 10:16.20 | vyrus001 | jm_: nope i dont think so eather :P |
| 10:16.41 | fireba11 | wombachi: ah well .. need to learn how to do that sooner or later anyway :-) |
| 10:17.02 | vyrus001 | jm_: void pcap_callback(u_char *args, const struct pcap_pkthdr *header, const u_char *packet); |
| 10:17.03 | vyrus001 | ? |
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| 10:17.25 | wombachi | fireba11 The make-kpkg package is for you then, if you like the Debian way. It's not that hard |
| 10:17.34 | Kaishen | does anyone know the package name for kernel 2.6? |
| 10:17.39 | nvz | fireba11: its dead simple. dont forget your friends kernel-pacakge and fakeroot, and libncurses5-dev if you want to use menuconfig |
| 10:17.41 | jm_ | vyrus001: you need to write a function with that prototype, which is called by pcap from pcap_loop (you specify function name as its third argument) |
| 10:17.47 | bodq | is f.d.o down? |
| 10:17.48 | liable | Kaishen: sarge or newer? |
| 10:17.57 | Kaishen | 3.1 r1 |
| 10:18.00 | liable | bodq: seems so (p.d.o?) |
| 10:18.01 | fireba11 | Kaishen: kernel-image-2.6.xx newer are |
| 10:18.11 | Kaishen | bodq: yeah |
| 10:18.12 | vyrus001 | jm_: i understand i need to make a func prototype of that type |
| 10:18.17 | wombachi | fireba11 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html |
| 10:18.20 | bodq | liable: ftp, i mean |
| 10:18.20 | fireba11 | Kaishen: etch and sid got kernels renamed |
| 10:18.38 | liable | Kaishen: kernel-image-2.6-686 or whatever.. apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
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| 10:18.40 | saftsack | hi |
| 10:18.44 | wombachi | fireba11 or http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
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| 10:18.50 | saftsack | howto check whether my apache supports php? |
| 10:19.02 | ye_old | xgl + debian = when? |
| 10:19.03 | ye_old | :) |
| 10:19.06 | nvz | saftsack: did you install the php module? |
| 10:19.13 | liable | bodq: seems so, i cant ftp to it. |
| 10:19.16 | saftsack | i installed php4 |
| 10:19.45 | sep | saftsack, you want the package libapache[2]-mod-php4 |
| 10:19.48 | liable | whats going on with all the debian servers lately? |
| 10:20.02 | fireba11 | ye_old: if at all it should be in sid pretty soon |
| 10:20.03 | saftsack | thanks :) |
| 10:20.35 | saftsack | so it restarted the server now but index.php doesnt works :( the browser wants to download it |
| 10:20.57 | ye_old | fireba11: great! do you by any chance know, when a new blender relese is in sid? I can't seem to be able to browse cvs |
| 10:21.02 | liable | did you edit the httpd.conf? |
| 10:21.09 | fireba11 | ye_old: no clue |
| 10:21.14 | saftsack | liable, no |
| 10:21.17 | ye_old | fireba11: okies |
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| 10:21.34 | wombachi | saftsack put "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" in index.php if your Apache config seems ok |
| 10:21.38 | ye_old | fireba11: is there a platform where I can inform myself about newest in sid? |
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| 10:21.43 | sep | saftsack, for apache2 you should run a2enmod php4 |
| 10:21.55 | fireba11 | ye_old: tried koraraa live-cd with xgl yesterday .. :-D |
| 10:22.00 | saftsack | This module is already enabled! |
| 10:22.07 | Diazepam | guys how does one perform a network installation (lan boot), can i use pxe to boot of fanther machines kernel? |
| 10:22.48 | Diazepam | or iso image |
| 10:22.50 | sep | saftsack, and you restarted apache2 ? |
| 10:22.53 | djp | where can i post some output from my kern.log? |
| 10:22.53 | nvz | hmm el roacho in my pocket |
| 10:23.01 | ye_old | fireba11: yeah, a colleague of mine told me he did as well, actually my problem is, that I got a messy graphics card(radeon9000), which has distorted screen in xgl ;( |
| 10:23.02 | jm_ | djp: /msg dpkg paste |
| 10:23.07 | fireba11 | djp #flood or pastebin |
| 10:23.12 | saftsack | php-pear is missing |
| 10:23.21 | djp | jm_, thankfireball thanks |
| 10:23.34 | fireba11 | ye_old: well my radeon 9500 pro works nice .. |
| 10:23.35 | vyrus001 | jm_: somthing like this ? |
| 10:23.38 | vyrus001 | void pcap_callback(u_char my_input, const struct pcap_pkthdr my_header, const u_char my_packet); |
| 10:23.48 | saftsack | i installed php-pear now but it doesnt works :( |
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| 10:23.56 | MSameer | hi |
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| 10:24.31 | djp | i have pasted the output from my kernel.log in #flood. does anyone know why i get this output and is there a way to fix it or should i not worry about it? |
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| 10:25.04 | ye_old | saftsack: pear is a repository, there is nothing to "install" and thus nothing to "work", it's just a bunch of php packages! |
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| 10:25.20 | saftsack | PHP PEAR must be installed. Visit http://pear.php.net for help with installation. |
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| 10:25.45 | jm_ | vyrus001: yes |
| 10:25.51 | phar0e | Hello, anyone here running x86_64? |
| 10:25.54 | ye_old | saftsack: yeah, they mean install in the meaning of unpack |
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| 10:25.57 | nkuttler | saftsack: read /usr/share/doc/packagename/* |
| 10:26.07 | fireba11 | !tell phar0e about anyone |
| 10:26.21 | saftsack | i installed it with apt-get |
| 10:26.29 | vyrus001 | jm_: ahh thanx :P... now just to be clear... if i am passing NULL into arg 4 of pcap_loop then i dont need the optional first arg in the prototype right ? |
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| 10:27.05 | MSameer | i wonder whether there's something wrong with the gpg keys used to sign the release files for etch/sid ? I'm getting "The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)" although i have the keys installed and this suddenly happened perhaps 2 days ago. Shall I change the mirror ? |
| 10:27.26 | liable | MSameer: /topic |
| 10:27.43 | saftsack | ye_old, how do you mean? |
| 10:27.45 | jm_ | vyrus001: you need it |
| 10:28.00 | MSameer | liable: err, sorry, Really sorry for not reading it |
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| 10:28.09 | liable | MSameer: no problem. |
| 10:28.11 | vyrus001 | jm_: ok |
| 10:28.15 | vyrus001 | jm_: thanx |
| 10:28.34 | jm_ | vyrus001: the fact that's NULL doesn't mean it's not passed, it just means it's passed as NULL pointer |
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| 10:28.44 | vyrus001 | ic |
| 10:28.47 | MSameer | but then, apt-setup is not there anymore! |
| 10:29.09 | yertyo | hello,isnt there a way to use xterm as a file browser? |
| 10:29.31 | liable | yes, ls |
| 10:29.37 | yertyo | thanks |
| 10:29.50 | jm_ | yertyo: also see mc |
| 10:29.59 | yertyo | wait,thats not what i meant |
| 10:30.00 | liable | yeah, mc is sweet |
| 10:30.08 | yertyo | mc? |
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| 10:31.04 | vyrus001 | jm_: ok problem... |
| 10:31.12 | yertyo | yes mc is what I was looking for,thanks |
| 10:31.32 | vyrus001 | jm_: when i use a prototype like void pcap_callback(u_char my_args, const struct pcap_pkthdr my_header, const u_char my_packet); |
| 10:31.45 | vyrus001 | jm_: i get an err sushi.c:47: warning: passing argument 3 of 'pcap_loop' from incompatible pointer type |
| 10:33.10 | vyrus001 | jm_: OHHH i think i know why... lol i havent defined my "*packet" type yet... could that cause errs like that ? |
| 10:33.35 | jm_ | vyrus001: it's wrong, the last two ones are pointers |
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| 10:34.22 | vyrus001 | jm_: void pcap_callback(u_char my_args, const struct pcap_pkthdr *my_header, const u_char *my_packet); |
| 10:34.22 | vyrus001 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:34.43 | Fox | hi |
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| 10:35.34 | jm_ | vyrus001: yes |
| 10:35.43 | vyrus001 | jm_: same err |
| 10:36.23 | crashbg | what model is a intel p4@1.6 with 256 kb lvl2 cache? |
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| 10:37.32 | jm_ | vyrus001: you need to change both the prototype and the actual function implementation |
| 10:37.46 | vyrus001 | jm_: func is not implemented yet |
| 10:37.53 | jm_ | crashbg: Pentium 4 doesn't tell you enough? |
| 10:38.04 | vyrus001 | jm_: just prototyped.. i was trying to make sure i just got that right |
| 10:38.04 | jm_ | vyrus001: you need to implement it and first argument is a pointer too |
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| 10:38.20 | vyrus001 | jm_: ic |
| 10:38.39 | sybariten | so. whats your attitude if someone comes here asking you to do a search for an "apt" package? |
| 10:38.47 | vyrus001 | jm_: changed last one to pointer and it worked |
| 10:38.55 | vyrus001 | jm_: thanx man helped me out alot :P |
| 10:39.08 | liable | sybariten: you can use the bot to search if you cant do it yourself |
| 10:39.17 | liable | !tell sybariten about search |
| 10:39.24 | sybariten | liable: heh! great |
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| 10:40.45 | sybariten | i cant msg dpkg directly with an apt-cache statement can i ? |
| 10:40.55 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:40.56 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 10:41.19 | liable | sybariten: read the search factoid it just gave you.. /msg dpkg find foo |
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| 10:42.16 | liable | !maint popcon |
| 10:42.33 | liable | wtf |
| 10:42.41 | crashbg | jm_: i need the model so i can choose a mainboard |
| 10:42.48 | liable | 20:42 <dpkg> Package 'popcon' does not exist. |
| 10:42.54 | jm_ | crashbg: cat /proc/cpuinfo for details |
| 10:42.57 | crashbg | jm_: i want to make a barebone system for mythtv use |
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| 10:43.01 | liable | oh.. |
| 10:43.02 | eXtas-Styrkja- | Does anywhon know where i can find the Debian Sparc Netinstall floppys ? |
| 10:43.05 | crashbg | jm_: that was the 1st thing i've tried |
| 10:43.20 | crashbg | but cpuid and x86info don't give me the model |
| 10:43.25 | crashbg | only specs |
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| 10:44.34 | oxigen | i have open port 143, how can i check what program keeping open it? |
| 10:44.39 | jm_ | crashbg: they give you exact model number |
| 10:44.41 | liable | Torsson: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ .. but ftp.debian.org seems to be down |
| 10:44.53 | liable | oxigen: netstat -plunt |
| 10:44.58 | sybariten | liable: yeah i did, but i wasnt sure what it exactly meant ... it ended the instructions with apt-cache search |
| 10:45.01 | oxigen | liable: thanks |
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| 10:46.32 | Torsson | thanx: liable |
| 10:46.49 | liable | np |
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| 10:48.46 | asg | liable: they are all probably busy tabulating the vote for the next DD |
| 10:48.51 | jm_ | liable: mirrors borked ;) |
| 10:48.51 | liable | heh |
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| 10:49.19 | ndee | hello there, how can I send a message on the console, to another user who is logged in? We're both logged in with the same user |
| 10:49.29 | asg | ndee: write |
| 10:49.37 | ndee | thx |
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| 10:57.13 | fknwindz | I've got a problem where my machine gets a DHCP assigned IP address, even though I've removed all references to DHCP from /etc/network/interfaces. It seems to happen when my router resets and the network connection gets interrupted. Any ideas why it would use DHCP instead of the static address? |
| 10:57.51 | fknwindz | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2059 (/etc/network/interfaces) |
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| 10:58.14 | fknwindz | It's a regular PCI nic |
| 10:58.18 | ye_old | fknwindz: because dhcp is default |
| 10:58.28 | liable | huh? |
| 10:58.37 | jm_ | maybe you have DHCP client running? |
| 10:59.10 | liable | check ps. |
| 10:59.13 | fknwindz | I know that during the netinst process I used DHCP to get an IP and download from the mirrors |
| 10:59.52 | fknwindz | liable, nothing dhcpclient related in ps... |
| 11:01.00 | fknwindz | ah wait... "dhclient" isn't it? |
| 11:01.10 | liable | yeah |
| 11:01.24 | ye_old | hehe |
| 11:01.58 | fknwindz | So if I kill that off and get rid of it from init... |
| 11:02.16 | ye_old | good boy |
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| 11:04.27 | fknwindz | Great, thanks for that. |
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| 11:08.16 | mynullvoid | why is that : ls -Al |awk -F' ' '{print $6}' | wc -l <----- will display along one empty line? |
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| 11:08.51 | jm_ | where? |
| 11:09.17 | mynullvoid | I mean if in the dir have 2 file the output will be 2+1 |
| 11:10.06 | jm_ | not here |
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| 11:15.06 | dannythm | hello there, I just finally upgraded to etch ^^ |
| 11:15.16 | dannythm | but tehre are some little problems here |
| 11:15.21 | ye_old | dannythm: congrats |
| 11:15.27 | mynullvoid | jm_: ls -Al |awk -F' ' '{print $6}' | wc -l ? are you sure |
| 11:15.44 | dannythm | I cannot acces to the decies menu in konqueror |
| 11:16.23 | dannythm | it tells me "protocoll not supported: devices" how can I fix this so I can acess to all my disks? |
| 11:16.29 | jm_ | mynullvoid: absolutely, but why are you interested in printing month field? |
| 11:16.49 | mynullvoid | jm_: I want to archive my emails |
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| 11:16.59 | sybariten | if there is a package that aims to distribute apache, php and mysql in one lump, isnt it odd that it doesnt exist as a .deb package then ? |
| 11:17.11 | mynullvoid | jm_: I want to store all my email in yyyy.mm form in my Maildir |
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| 11:17.24 | ye_old | dannythm: it's not under Konqueror/Go To/Devices? |
| 11:17.26 | sybariten | i mean .... whats the point of distributing that as a .tar.gz? that would bean compiling anyhow, wouldnt it ? |
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| 11:18.16 | dannythm | ye_old: uh? what do you mena? I n sarge and previous versions it always worked |
| 11:18.40 | jm_ | mynullvoid: right, but it prints months properly for me |
| 11:19.49 | jm_ | mynullvoid: simply ommit | wc -l and see what it does |
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| 11:20.19 | ye_old | dannythm: yeah, maybe you changed to using udev, I don't know, but what I meant was: in konqueror, you have a menupoint called "Go To" |
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| 11:23.41 | dannythm | ye_old: oh yeah, during the upograde udev gave me some problems... so how I use it or how can I have a direct acess to my disks? |
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| 11:27.26 | ye_old | unfortunately I can't help you on udev, but you have to define some rules for it, which is quite nice once you get a hang of it(eg. create hooks for specific hardware).nevertheless, your device:/ folder should exist, as long as you use the according kde module, kdf maybe?.. |
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| 11:29.34 | dannythm | ye_old: yep, the rest works just fine... well... I'll search for some info in google... |
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| 11:30.58 | ye_old | dannythm: I use etch as well, and I'm having that folder, so it's kind of weird, you ARE using kde3.5.1 aren't you? |
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| 11:34.41 | ye_old | oh wait |
| 11:34.45 | ye_old | did you try media:/ |
| 11:34.58 | ye_old | I think it moved there |
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| 11:45.35 | weasel_00 | that was a hell of a trunk split jesus |
| 11:47.10 | fireba11_2 | weasel_00: yup ... got thrown out a couple times |
| 11:47.32 | weasel_00 | you and like way too many others lol |
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| 11:48.14 | pjv | is there a free sms server? |
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| 11:48.22 | weasel | grrrrr |
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| 11:48.48 | weasel_00 | :P |
| 11:49.15 | pjv | hmm 2 weasels |
| 11:49.17 | weasel_00 | pjv : i just googled it... there are several |
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| 11:49.28 | DonLemmi | Hi, can anyone please tell me how to use a preseed file on an USB-Stick while booting with a netinst-cd? "preseed/file=/dev/scsi/.../preseed.cfg" does not work. |
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| 11:49.52 | weasel | pjv: yes, a fake weasel that really should pick a different nickname. |
| 11:49.58 | pjv | weasel: i tried that, they say it's free and as soon as i check it out, they are not |
| 11:49.59 | weasel_00 | what ever |
| 11:50.24 | weasel_00 | weasel : what ever |
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| 11:52.23 | RoyK | hi |
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| 11:52.33 | jm_ | DonLemmi: nothing in the wiki? |
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| 11:52.51 | RoyK | is there a way to 'remove' a package but only from the apt system? i want the software there, but apt is bugging me |
| 11:53.04 | RoyK | rpm has a '--justdb' flag to do this |
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| 11:53.16 | pjv | hehe |
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| 11:55.32 | DonLemmi | jm_, nope. |
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| 11:56.55 | sebastian | /etc/init.d/alsa has "Default-Start:" and "Default Stop:". It seems to me that it is never started at all. Is that a bug? |
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| 11:57.16 | sebastian | I'm using alsa-base 1.0.10-3 |
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| 11:58.55 | weasel_00 | what is a decent ssh client for gnome? |
| 11:59.08 | weasel | ssh. |
| 11:59.13 | RoyK | :P |
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| 11:59.29 | RoyK | weasel_00: open terminal, write ssh somehost |
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| 12:00.05 | pitillo | can anyone, who had experiencie with emal servers, recommend me a good email server provide in sarge? |
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| 12:00.36 | Maulkin | It's very personal which is used |
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| 12:00.38 | Maulkin | I use exim |
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| 12:00.54 | RoyK | methinks postfix is brilliant |
| 12:00.58 | fireba11 | pitillo: i can recommend exim4 + dovecot für pop/imap |
| 12:01.09 | fireba11 | postfix is good too |
| 12:01.30 | PumpkinPie | where do I config the DNS server in debian? |
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| 12:01.36 | RoyK | methinks the choice of MTAs is like the choice of distros or bsd vs linux |
| 12:01.40 | RoyK | PumpkinPie: /etc/bind |
| 12:01.48 | RoyK | PumpkinPie: /etc/bind/named.conf and so on |
| 12:01.51 | fireba11 | PumpkinPie: since you got none as default .. you need to install one :-) |
| 12:02.03 | eckberci | Helló |
| 12:02.09 | fireba11 | RoyK: i'd say tehre are only two good MTAs though |
| 12:02.10 | PumpkinPie | I dont want a DNS server |
| 12:02.15 | PumpkinPie | Im trying to config the DNS ip |
| 12:02.23 | pitillo | well, I?ll read about dovecot. I thougth to use qmail but is nonfree... |
| 12:02.25 | fireba11 | PumpkinPie /etc/resolv.conf then |
| 12:02.28 | PumpkinPie | thx |
| 12:02.39 | fireba11 | pitillo: dovecot is no MTA, but pop/imap |
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| 12:04.00 | RoyK | fireba11: exactly. religion... |
| 12:04.02 | pitillo | fireba11, true, the mta is exim I think. But I dont know dovecot. :) |
| 12:04.16 | RoyK | sendmail is also a good mta |
| 12:04.19 | RoyK | qmail |
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| 12:04.45 | fireba11 | pitillo: it's relatively new but made high progress so far .. so if it's not a big productive environment i'd give it a try |
| 12:04.45 | Fox | I would personnaly choose postfix for an MTA |
| 12:04.54 | fireba11 | RoyK: sendmail config is a nightmare though |
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| 12:05.35 | weasel_00 | RoyK : been working with gui's so long for ssh i totally spaced that lmao |
| 12:05.57 | RoyK | weasel_00: poor soul |
| 12:06.04 | RoyK | fireba11: not at all :) |
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| 12:07.05 | PumpkinPie | I want to output to a file but I want to see whats going on also |
| 12:07.06 | weasel_00 | pitillo : if you want to use qmail check out lifewithqmail.org |
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| 12:07.23 | weasel_00 | !qmail |
| 12:07.35 | weasel_00 | bakka |
| 12:07.37 | weasel_00 | lol |
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| 12:08.30 | Fox | PumpkinPie: man tee |
| 12:09.04 | djp | i gather the gnome-cups-manager is broken under debian 3.1 sarge? how do i fix the issue of cancelling a print job with it or do i have to use the web interface? |
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| 12:10.06 | Peizhao | anyone know how to get rid of Memory exhausted problem during kernel compiling |
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| 12:10.50 | sdogi | get more memory |
| 12:11.11 | Peizhao | it is embedded device |
| 12:11.21 | Peizhao | with no swap space |
| 12:11.37 | Peizhao | only 64MB RAM 4k MIPS |
| 12:11.40 | shingouz | Peizhao: cross compile on another computer perhaps? |
| 12:11.52 | Peizhao | yes, I did |
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| 12:12.27 | Peizhao | however, there is some problem with that, so I want to try compile on the device itself |
| 12:12.41 | tosh| | hey there, any common tools to detect the capabilities of an lcd screen or any screen for that matter for X? I have a dell display here thats giving me a hard time |
| 12:12.56 | Peizhao | also, another problem is it said "modprobe: Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.4.30/modulp" |
| 12:13.28 | jm_ | tosh|: get-edid|parse-edid |
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| 12:18.25 | nixie | !pig |
| 12:18.26 | Anthro | Am I missing something? Is Thunderbird not available, even in unstable? |
| 12:18.26 | nixie | !ping |
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| 12:18.38 | Anthro | ! say oink! |
| 12:18.39 | pusling | win 3 |
| 12:18.43 | nixie | hehe |
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| 12:19.04 | Anthro | Sorry, that should have been Thunderbird 1.5 |
| 12:19.15 | nixie | mozilla-thunderbird is at 1.0.7 in etch |
| 12:19.26 | Anthro | correction: Am I missing something? Is Thunderbird 1.5 not available, even in unstable? |
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| 12:19.37 | Peizhao | any solution to the cross compiling? |
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| 12:19.58 | Peizhao | modprobe: Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.4.30/modulp |
| 12:20.06 | Anthro | nixie: Yeah, and I have 1.0.7 installed. But I'm using 1.5 on Windows and it is much more stable. |
| 12:20.32 | nixie | im not sure. maybe there's a package in experimental |
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| 12:23.37 | weasel_00 | christ i msg nickserv.. |
| 12:23.43 | weasel_00 | cant* |
| 12:23.49 | jetscreamer | you should probably wait |
| 12:23.57 | jetscreamer | network probs |
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| 12:24.15 | weasel_00 | ussually i can reach it by now.. *sigh* |
| 12:24.40 | javiolo | what can I do in my LAN to be safe from sniffers ? |
| 12:25.09 | nvz | javiolo: cover your router in vaseline, and then sprinkle cinnamon on it |
| 12:25.25 | javiolo | ... |
| 12:25.41 | nvz | yeah throws em off.. |
| 12:25.45 | Anthro | javiolo: Do you have a router? |
| 12:25.48 | weasel_00 | nvz : have a decent firewall |
| 12:25.49 | javiolo | yes |
| 12:25.51 | vdh | that attracts sniffers. |
| 12:25.52 | nvz | they'll never catch your scent that way |
| 12:25.56 | vdh | you need ammonia |
| 12:26.31 | Anthro | javiolo: Set it up so that it doesn't respond to pings and doesn't have any port pass-throughs. |
| 12:27.02 | javiolo | Anthro the problem is that I have also connected a wifi to my router |
| 12:27.19 | Anthro | javiolo: That is damned foolish if you are concerned about sniffers. |
| 12:27.42 | Anthro | javiolo: wifi is inherently insecure. At least with a wired network your attacker needs physical access. |
| 12:27.59 | vulture | that's why there's encryption.. |
| 12:28.13 | javiolo | yes, I though about connecting the wifi to a firewall not directly to the router |
| 12:28.17 | Anthro | javiolo: WAP is not known to be crackable, unlike WEP, but that's the best you can do and it ain't much. |
| 12:28.20 | weasel_00 | wifi mac auth and encrypt |
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| 12:28.38 | javiolo | thats already done |
| 12:28.46 | javiolo | mac protection is easy to bypass |
| 12:28.52 | nvz | dont forget disabling essid broadcast |
| 12:29.35 | nvz | WPA |
| 12:29.36 | fireba11 | javiolo: then about the only thing would be firewalling the w-lan or using some VPN connection over WLAM and hand out certificates |
| 12:29.39 | pharm | Anthro: the thunderbird package maintainer has some prelease packages around on his Debian web pages if you're feeling adventurous. |
| 12:29.43 | ye_old | why does debian etch ship kde 3.5.1 but only kmail version 1.8.3 instead of >1.9.1 which belonged to kde 3.5.1??? |
| 12:30.09 | Anthro | pharm: Mm. I'll think about it. Any idea what is keeping them from being release quality? |
| 12:30.13 | pharm | Anthro: WPA (or WPA2) are the secure ones WAP is something else entirely... |
| 12:30.22 | pharm | Anthro: developer time I think. |
| 12:30.32 | Anthro | pharm: Yeah, WAP was that horrible HTML-lite, wasn't it? |
| 12:30.55 | Anthro | pharm: Ah, that's always the way. If only people were willing to pay for their free/Free software... |
| 12:31.00 | ye_old | I need to apply kmail filters on imap folders, and that does not work in kmail version 1.8.3 |
| 12:31.04 | pharm | Anthro: See http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/ |
| 12:31.30 | pharm | there's some Debian integration work that needs doing I think. |
| 12:31.38 | nvz | WAP is a Wirelsss application protocol, WPA is Wifi Protected Access |
| 12:32.30 | weasel_00 | interesting archive about this .. http://www.mcse.ms/archive19-2005-12-1994213.html |
| 12:33.04 | Anthro | pharm: Makes sense. Well, it looks like it's coming along. |
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| 12:33.32 | Thanatermesis | BADSIG... now down totally ? |
| 12:34.02 | Anthro | Damn, where's dpkg? |
| 12:34.07 | Anthro | Thanatermesis: It Works For Me |
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| 12:34.26 | Thanatermesis | Anthro ftp.us.debian.org ? |
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| 12:34.41 | Anthro | Thanatermesis: Nope, mirrors.kernel.org |
| 12:34.52 | Thanatermesis | hum |
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| 12:35.21 | Anthro | Thanatermesis: It's bad karma to use ftp.us.debian.org anyway, as I understand it. |
| 12:35.21 | Thanatermesis | looking the topic, the repo of i use is borked with the GPG thing since 2 days... but now looks totally down |
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| 12:35.46 | Thanatermesis | yeah ? hehe, what is a repository with a big bandwith Anthro ? |
| 12:35.47 | Anthro | Thanatermesis: try <cc>.<arch>.mirror.debian.net |
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| 12:37.34 | jetscreamer | !info apt-spy |
| 12:37.39 | jetscreamer | oh yeah |
| 12:37.44 | Anthro | jetscreamer: No bots. Dammit. |
| 12:37.50 | jetscreamer | yeah |
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| 12:38.12 | jetscreamer | anyway, apt-spy will do the bandwidth test thing for you |
| 12:38.33 | Anthro | Okay, I'm clearly useless here. I just stuck my finger in my eye while scratching my nose. Time to pull myself together. |
| 12:38.43 | jetscreamer | and write a sources.list |
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| 12:38.48 | kristalino | wich MTA would you recommend ? |
| 12:38.59 | Thanatermesis | i need to use a repository to supports a very big bandwith and also stable |
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| 12:39.23 | Thanatermesis | with apt-spy i can know this, jetscreamer ? |
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| 12:39.39 | boguh | how can i disable this annoying beep in the console? |
| 12:40.06 | jetscreamer | all i know is that it will find the best pipe(s), speedwise, Thanatermesis |
| 12:40.26 | Thanatermesis | ok, i make a look, thx |
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| 12:40.39 | jetscreamer | boguh: rmmod pc_speaker or pcspeaker maybe, or mute it in a mixer |
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| 12:41.22 | Der^Patrizier | l |
| 12:41.36 | jetscreamer | course if you removed the module it would get loaded again after reboot |
| 12:41.58 | boguh | i expected a bashrc entry |
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| 12:42.59 | Der^Patrizier | whom can i ask a question about debian= |
| 12:43.01 | Der^Patrizier | ? |
| 12:43.55 | blondie | Der^Patrizier: just ask the question |
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| 12:46.47 | tombs | hi all |
| 12:47.02 | cyberwolf__ | hello again, need som help again :/ http://pastebin.com/599577 |
| 12:47.48 | Der^Patrizier | a friend of mine installed debian on my laptop, now I want to add some components but their is no network-client installed as far as i understood, how do i do it? |
| 12:48.14 | useruser | is packages.debian.org meant to be working again? I can't bring it up |
| 12:48.41 | blondie | useruser: looks to be down |
| 12:48.48 | petemc | Der^Patrizier: network-client? |
| 12:48.56 | useruser | anyone know if xpcshell from mozilla is packaged anywhere in debian? |
| 12:49.17 | Der^Patrizier | ethernet-clientß |
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| 12:49.44 | nvz | OO.o HTML editor in sarge blows. I spent like half an hour just trying to figure out how to make a list box and still dont know how to put simple options in the list.. I could have done that 100 times in an editor by now :P |
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| 12:50.06 | Der^Patrizier | I'm now in a university lan and can't access internet! |
| 12:50.22 | blondie | Der^Patrizier: eh? how are you on here then |
| 12:50.31 | snail | nvz: maybe that's not what it's designed for? |
| 12:50.43 | nicolas__ | Der^Patrizier: what you need is a dhcp client |
| 12:50.54 | Der^Patrizier | other computer |
| 12:52.29 | petemc | Der^Patrizier: does ifconfig -a mention eth0 ? |
| 12:52.31 | Der^Patrizier | sry for stupied questions, but these are my first steps on linux |
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| 12:53.28 | Der^Patrizier | petemc: yes |
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| 12:54.09 | petemc | Der^Patrizier: man 5 interfaces |
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| 12:54.29 | fluxdude | My debian at home is stuffed, I juggled my partitions and reinstalled grub, repointed booting but kernel still expects it's on hda3. How do I fix this? |
| 12:54.33 | _root_ | how to suppress fsck during boot |
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| 12:54.54 | blondie | !how to |
| 12:54.55 | blondie | hm |
| 12:55.03 | fluxdude | _root_: edit your fstab and put 0 0 at the end of the lines for the filesystems |
| 12:55.04 | azeem | _root_: why would you? |
| 12:55.28 | nicolas__ | fluxdude: at the same place you repointed to the new kernel image |
| 12:55.40 | _root_ | i am not able to boot it |
| 12:55.48 | nicolas__ | fluxdude: this line is usually followed by root=/dev/hda1 |
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| 12:56.03 | azeem | _root_: why not? |
| 12:56.19 | fluxdude | hmm, ok, maybe I should use my brain and do that, I think it's real_root isn't it? |
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| 12:57.15 | _root_ | system went down due to power failure.. after booting system hangs on fsck |
| 12:57.31 | MM2 | I would like to use my debian woody server as a SMS gateway. How I can do that? |
| 12:57.36 | azeem | _root_: that's bad, do you have an error message or anything? |
| 12:57.45 | azeem | _root_: try to boot off a LiveCD and fsck from there |
| 12:57.51 | _root_ | no |
| 12:58.02 | _root_ | i am even not having a live cd |
| 12:58.26 | azeem | maybe if you boot with init=/bin/sh, it might skip fscking |
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| 12:58.36 | azeem | but really, you have bigger issues to worry about if fsck hangs |
| 12:59.22 | blueSmurf | hi, can someone give me a hint on seting up RAID 1. |
| 13:00.08 | blueSmurf | I am searching google, and most docs i find tell you to start running so or so commands... |
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| 13:00.47 | blueSmurf | Do I have to install debian normally first ?, or can I setup RAID1 during the install ? |
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| 13:00.54 | m4lu6 | blueSmurf i just used this one last night, http://www.revealnet.com/newsletter-v2/linux2.htm |
| 13:01.08 | _root_ | is there any grub command to suppress fsck ? |
| 13:01.12 | m4lu6 | not quite a "how to setup raid", but it was a different approach from what I've done before (md vs. lvm) |
| 13:01.23 | blueSmurf | m4lu6, thanks. |
| 13:01.34 | m4lu6 | and you can set up raid before, during, or after install. |
| 13:01.35 | azeem | _root_: I just told you to try init=/bin/sh |
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| 13:02.59 | blueSmurf | m4lu6, ok thanks ill give it a look |
| 13:03.32 | m4lu6 | speaking of raid... I'm seeing (very seldomly) this in my syslog (because i'm watching for these exact errors) -> kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 13:03.40 | m4lu6 | and, kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } |
| 13:03.42 | cyberwolf__ | i need som help with this, anyone up to it ? :/ http://pastebin.com/599577 |
| 13:03.56 | m4lu6 | THis is a brand new Raid0 array w/4 400G Hitatchi Deathstars... |
| 13:04.12 | m4lu6 | should I be worried about these very seldom errors? |
| 13:04.52 | MatBoy | m4lu6, I'm here again :) |
| 13:04.59 | m4lu6 | haha |
| 13:05.00 | blueSmurf | m4lu6, they dont look very healthy |
| 13:05.08 | m4lu6 | MatBoy yeah. #php wasn't best place for that question :) |
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| 13:05.26 | MatBoy | m4lu6, can happen :) What kind of controller do you use ? |
| 13:05.33 | cyberwolf__ | m4lu6, hardware error ? |
| 13:05.39 | m4lu6 | blueSmurf I've got to wonder if it's just the crappy (Very crappy) $20 SiS ATA controller, tho |
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| 13:05.57 | MatBoy | m4lu6, that can be |
| 13:05.59 | MatBoy | SW-raid ? |
| 13:06.09 | m4lu6 | yeah. |
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| 13:06.42 | MatBoy | Try Raid0+1 |
| 13:06.55 | m4lu6 | I already "lost" 1.4 tb of data from this array when the "fastora NAS-t4" host died (SHITTY product, stay away from Fastora) |
| 13:07.08 | m4lu6 | MatBoy that's what i'm thinking of doinng, now, actually :) |
| 13:07.15 | m4lu6 | and getting a decent controller. |
| 13:07.16 | MatBoy | more stable |
| 13:07.24 | weasel_00 | m4lu6 : ouch *reels in pain* |
| 13:07.27 | MatBoy | no, SWraid will handle it :) |
| 13:07.32 | m4lu6 | that is, before I fill up the drives with data again... better to do it now. damnit. |
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| 13:07.51 | luis__ | hola |
| 13:07.51 | m4lu6 | (luckily I have all the data on DVD, anyway. didn't lose anything) |
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| 13:08.02 | luis__ | alguien que hable español |
| 13:08.10 | m4lu6 | MatBoy no no, I mean get rid of thise $20 SiS in favor of a $40 SiS ;) |
| 13:08.13 | karsten | !es |
| 13:08.15 | MatBoy | haha |
| 13:08.22 | m4lu6 | twice the price, twice the quality |
| 13:08.30 | karsten | luis__: /join #debian-es |
| 13:08.36 | MatBoy | m4lu6, I would use Onboard IDE and use SWraid from the OS :P |
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| 13:10.24 | m4lu6 | MatBoy the Dell SC420 box has a great controller, which I'm not using, because I wanted all ide devices on same controller (don't ask why, I just did); dell controller only supports 2 devices (cheap box, sc420) |
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| 13:11.21 | m4lu6 | anyhow. i've got 9 of 9 5 gig files copied, and I only saw that "error" once. So I guess I can relax a little bit. |
| 13:11.26 | MatBoy | m4lu6, I can imagine... I the same :) |
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| 13:11.28 | MatBoy | I'm |
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| 13:11.47 | m4lu6 | and I ran 20 or so tests locally on the box with bonnie, didn't see any errors. |
| 13:11.48 | orlandiux2003 | hola a todos |
| 13:11.55 | luis__ | hola ç |
| 13:11.55 | m4lu6 | perhaps it's an NFS thing |
| 13:12.00 | orlandiux2003 | quien me puede dar el acceso a ubusto en español |
| 13:12.01 | nvz | !es |
| 13:12.10 | orlandiux2003 | ubunto |
| 13:12.15 | fireba11 | nvz bots are down, you remember ? |
| 13:12.23 | nvz | fireba11: nope |
| 13:12.29 | nvz | ~es |
| 13:12.30 | apt | Para los usuarios debian de habla hispana que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #debian-es -- Spanish-speaking debian users requiring support, please join #debian-es |
| 13:12.31 | luis__ | hola eres el primer habla hispana |
| 13:12.45 | luis__ | sdjksja |
| 13:13.00 | fireba11 | nvz he was asking about ubuntu anyway :-)= |
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| 13:13.18 | naddar | anyone knows a good webmail programm? |
| 13:13.33 | tijn | squirrelmail |
| 13:13.41 | sami_ | another vote for squirrelmail |
| 13:13.43 | fireba11 | naddar: there are about a gazillion of those .. any special needs ? |
| 13:13.46 | tijn | ;) |
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| 13:14.02 | naddar | i just like to login into my linux server from other places in the world |
| 13:14.07 | naddar | like to have webmail |
| 13:14.10 | tijn | ssh ;) |
| 13:14.10 | fiveiron | hrmrm... |
| 13:14.15 | naddar | yup |
| 13:14.22 | weasel_00 | squirrelmail is the nutty thing ive used =) |
| 13:14.34 | fireba11 | naddar: squirrelmail is one of the best as far as i can tell |
| 13:14.40 | naddar | ok thanks |
| 13:14.44 | petemc | horde and its variants are good |
| 13:14.45 | naddar | will try it |
| 13:14.59 | WoodyWoodpecker | My nick isn't registered any more, since I came back from my holidays. Can this be ? |
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| 13:15.14 | WoodyWoodpecker | And if yes, how to register my nick again ? |
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| 13:15.34 | fireba11 | WoodyWoodpecker: some freenode servers seem to be offline .. wait a bit :-) |
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| 13:15.44 | tijn | nickserv is down |
| 13:15.57 | WoodyWoodpecker | fireba11: ok, thanks, maybe that is it. |
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| 13:16.07 | tijn | chanserv is down too |
| 13:16.16 | tijn | to world is going MAD!!! |
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| 13:16.20 | tijn | :P |
| 13:16.25 | andax | how do I reset gnome settings to the default? (debian etch , gnome-panel keeps dying all the time) |
| 13:17.26 | azeem | andax: mv away ~/.gconf and maybe ~/.gnome2 |
| 13:17.30 | tarzeau | andax: rm -rf .gnome* .gtk* .gconf* |
| 13:18.35 | harfooz | hi all. I have posted this to #macosx, but didn't get any responses, so I'm going to try here. I have an etch box with an HP LJ6L printer. I also have an iBook. I'm using a wireless router. How do I config the iBook to send output to the printer that is connected to the etch box? |
| 13:19.11 | harfooz | I am using TurboTax, and need to print my return. |
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| 13:19.54 | andax | i did rm -rf .gnome* .gtk* .gconf* and it still has my settings |
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| 13:20.54 | andax | I also tried reinstalling gnome-panel after --purge but it didn't help either |
| 13:21.01 | petemc | harfooz: samba and cups would work |
| 13:21.06 | jm_ | harfooz: using MacOS X? |
| 13:21.23 | harfooz | jm_, yes, the iBook is using Panther. |
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| 13:21.32 | solemnwarning | are there any packages in apt for taking the audio of an avi video and encoding it into an mp3? |
| 13:21.36 | solemnwarning | lame didnt work |
| 13:21.40 | blueSmurf | Does anyone know where there is a guide that show how to install RAID on debian using the installer ? |
| 13:21.48 | nvz | fireba11: so what, I didnt feel like telling him in spanish to fuck off.. let someone in #debian-es do that |
| 13:21.56 | jm_ | harfooz: it uses CUPS for printing, install that on Etch box as well and let it accept connections from your iBook, then add printer there as appropriate (unless it can find it by itself, which it can) |
| 13:21.59 | fireba11 | nvz *g* |
| 13:22.00 | harfooz | petemc, I saw that http://localhost:631 displayed the CUPS interface on the iBook, but I didn't know wher to go from there. |
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| 13:22.23 | petemc | harfooz: i thought the printer was connected to the debian box? |
| 13:22.23 | andax | solemnwarning: get mplayer and mencoder (better compile your own but there are packages available - www.mplayerhq.hu ) |
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| 13:22.45 | andax | read the docs there about encoding stuff |
| 13:22.50 | blueSmurf | I see a few docs creating RAID1 with mdadm... but that looks like a postinstall thingy. |
| 13:22.50 | harfooz | petemc, the printer is connected to the etch box, and it already has cups installed. |
| 13:23.04 | petemc | harfooz: so read up on using samba to share it |
| 13:23.22 | harfooz | so it's samba that I need? |
| 13:23.32 | Emiml | where is your bot "dpkg" ? |
| 13:23.33 | petemc | harfooz: it would be one way to share it out, yeah |
| 13:23.36 | jm_ | harfooz: add a remote printer there, CUPS manual 7 - Printing with Other Systems |
| 13:23.45 | harfooz | thanks! |
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| 13:23.56 | harfooz | I'll get on the documentation right now. |
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| 13:26.10 | naddar | can i use pop and smtp in |
| 13:26.16 | naddar | squirremail |
| 13:26.47 | solemnwarning | andax, no good |
| 13:26.49 | solemnwarning | Couldn't find video filter 'divx4'. |
| 13:27.15 | Faust | What's wrong with bugs.debian.org? Can't connect anymore and it doesn' answer to ping... |
| 13:27.15 | fluxdude | What's the killer SMTP/IMAP with MySQL backend combo? |
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| 13:27.39 | streuner | dpkg, wb |
| 13:27.39 | dpkg | thanks, streuner. It's good to be back. |
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| 13:28.09 | andax | solemnwarning: i don't think you could even compile it in 2 minutes. |
| 13:28.10 | seemawn | dpkg: wb |
| 13:28.10 | dpkg | thanks, seemawn. It's good to be back. |
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| 13:28.22 | Estes | fluxdude, hummm, sendmail... will certainly kill your brain |
| 13:28.37 | solemnwarning | andax, it was on apt |
| 13:28.46 | solemnwarning | and i probably could :P |
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| 13:28.58 | solemnwarning | AMD Athlon XP 3200+ \o/ |
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| 13:29.41 | fluxdude | no trying to kill my brain, just get a great mail setup... |
| 13:29.41 | solemnwarning | andax, nvm anyway, was using wrong codec |
| 13:30.02 | streuner | Faust: poweroutage... |
| 13:30.30 | naddar | anyone can help me with squirremail |
| 13:30.45 | Faust | streuner, outch! Well, I hope it will be up soon again - I just read on planet.debian.net that it isn't the only one.... |
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| 13:31.27 | fireba11 | fluxdude: your choice .. every reasonable MTA supports mysql ... though i would recommend using psotgresql ;-) |
| 13:31.59 | streuner | Faust: well, it seem in Oregon are not only one server |
| 13:32.16 | streuner | s/seem/seems/ |
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| 13:33.36 | _satans_ny | what if i do rm -fr /dev/null hehe what will happend |
| 13:34.10 | tarzeau | damn where is abrotman |
| 13:34.16 | Faust | streuner: I see - I thought just about this one server.... |
| 13:34.23 | Faust | that's bad :-( |
| 13:34.37 | fireba11 | fluxdude: i'd recommend exim4/dovecot/postgresql ... other options are postfix and courier .. |
| 13:34.50 | naddar | fireba11 does i have to setup a imap server to? |
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| 13:35.03 | fireba11 | naddar: dovecot is pop/imap |
| 13:35.10 | Zugschlus | naddar: if you have to ask that question, you should not try to do this work yourself |
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| 13:35.58 | fireba11 | naddar: if you want to setup webmail you need imap ... but please be careful what you set up there ^^ |
| 13:36.00 | naddar | oh yeah lol stupid from me :p, Zugschlus thanks but i whas asking to another person |
| 13:36.01 | fireba11 | ahhh |
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| 13:36.14 | petemc | fireba11: you dont always need imap for webmail |
| 13:36.29 | fireba11 | petemc: of course .. but its by far the ebst way to go |
| 13:36.33 | Landslide | oh my... I have just ran a apt-get dist-upgrade on my testing install |
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| 13:36.54 | Landslide | it's gone haywire... something about x11-common failing in deb-sub or something like that |
| 13:36.56 | fireba11 | Landslide: ... and ? |
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| 13:37.13 | Landslide | i broke it good. |
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| 13:37.36 | fireba11 | Landslide: yay .. |
| 13:37.38 | streuner | Faust: hm, interesting |
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| 13:38.51 | blueSmurf | see you all later, need food. |
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| 13:39.48 | Landslide | if anyone is interested in helping me sort of the package conflicts... http://pastebin.ca/45452 |
| 13:40.15 | Landslide | :( not happy. |
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| 13:40.57 | fireba11 | Landslide: is it actually not working anymore ? |
| 13:41.06 | jetscreamer | man dpkg --force-help |
| 13:41.11 | naddar | whats the command to enter the squirrelmail config menu |
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| 13:41.35 | fireba11 | naddar: wth ? |
| 13:41.40 | Fox | naddar: go to /config/ and ./conf.pl |
| 13:42.28 | Landslide | fireba11: yep but i was using the nv server. |
| 13:43.08 | naddar | fox thanks |
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| 13:43.54 | Landslide | i've checked out the dpkg --force-help |
| 13:43.58 | Landslide | so I should --force-all |
| 13:44.02 | cheesemonger | wow I never knew you could see so many geeks in one place |
| 13:44.03 | Landslide | but what is the cmdline for dpkg |
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| 13:44.19 | Landslide | i'm such a noob i've only really used apt-get/apt-cache etc. |
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| 13:45.14 | jetscreamer | dpkg -i --force-something |
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| 13:46.21 | naddar | ok now it configured but it say to test http://your-squirrelmail-location/src/configtest.php but it whont work and i use my ip yeah |
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| 13:46.46 | Landslide | ah got it |
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| 13:48.49 | Landslide | if i did a dist-upgrade and i was already running testing.. last updated 6 months ago... am I going to have a crapload of problems? |
| 13:49.29 | fireba11 | Landslide: well it's testing ... probably not but you can enver know |
| 13:49.39 | Landslide | ok... |
| 13:49.45 | Landslide | we'll see how it goes... |
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| 13:52.09 | rodrigo__ | what package do I need to access a windows network? |
| 13:52.15 | petemc | rodrigo__: samba |
| 13:52.35 | rodrigo__ | thanks petemc |
| 13:52.38 | naddar | what is the local page for squirrelmail? http://localhost/????? |
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| 13:52.57 | petemc | naddar: have you looked in /usr/share/doc/squirrelmail/ at all? |
| 13:53.37 | sphenxes | i am using sudo on my computer, but I would like to have a different password for sudo than that of the root. how can I do such changes |
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| 13:54.00 | petemc | sphenxes: sudo should use the password of the user, not of root |
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| 13:54.43 | sphenxes | petemc, may be I have done some changes but how can I let sudo use "user password" |
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| 13:55.11 | petemc | sphenxes: i wasnt aware it would do anything other than that |
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| 13:56.01 | sphenxes | petemc, ic, I have played alot with sudoers file. I would try to reinstall the orignal file |
| 13:56.05 | cyberwolf__ | i need som help with this, anyone up to it ? :/ http://pastebin.com/599651 |
| 13:56.13 | DwyaneWade | when i logged in i was asked if i want to combine the GDM 2 files into one and if unseure click Accept. So i did that and now my Gnome Desktop is screwed |
| 13:56.32 | DwyaneWade | there are no program and Start bars and the USB mouse isn't working anymore |
| 13:56.42 | DwyaneWade | what to do to get the program bar back? |
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| 13:57.16 | faber2 | how can i convert an exim3.conf to exim4.conf? i remember there was something, somewhere ... any ideas? |
| 13:57.52 | SpongeJr | h'lo all... I just installed debian sarge on my Soyo Dragon KT-400... onboard NIC, Via KT-400 chipset... fairly standard stuff... I seem to have the NIC working, but I can't do anything with the network... eth0 times out, not getting DHCP... tried giving it static info and still can't ping router... |
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| 13:58.06 | petemc | faber2: exim_convert4r4 , its not to be relied on tho |
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| 13:58.52 | rob^^^ | what's the easiest way of seeing a list of all files on the FS not provided by installed packages? |
| 13:59.18 | SpongeJr | I'm baffled, want to learn more linux but can't use network... used the little mini install ~120 meg ISO.. all seemed to go well but it wouldn't get DHCP from router, which is set up for it |
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| 13:59.33 | SpongeJr | and all I want to do is get the network working so I can apt |
| 13:59.57 | rob^^^ | SpongeJr: does ifconfig show an eth0 |
| 14:00.00 | petemc | SpongeJr: dmesg |grep eth , ifconfig -a |
| 14:00.01 | SpongeJr | yes |
| 14:00.06 | DwyaneWade | or how to repair the GDM? |
| 14:00.10 | rob^^^ | Spong: any ip? |
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| 14:00.46 | mist | petemc, check whether you have set flag 'rootpw' in sudoers file |
| 14:00.46 | jm_ | rob^^^: try debcruft |
| 14:00.50 | SpongeJr | 192.168.1.42 which is appropriate for my network... I specified it in /etc/network/interfaces since DHCP wasn't working |
| 14:00.54 | jm_ | err just cruft |
| 14:01.04 | SpongeJr | gateway set to 192.168.1.1 which is right |
| 14:01.11 | petemc | mist: itym sphenxes |
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| 14:01.21 | mist | rootpw If set, sudo will prompt for the root password instead of |
| 14:01.21 | mist | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.21 | mist | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.31 | rob^^^ | Spong: can you ping the gateway? |
| 14:01.45 | rob^^^ | did you double-check your subnet? |
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| 14:01.49 | SpongeJr | I can ping 192.168.1.1 from another machine on the network, but Destination Host Unreachable from this new sarge box |
| 14:01.59 | SpongeJr | can't ping gateway (from that machine) |
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| 14:02.12 | rob^^^ | what does dhclient eth0 do? |
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| 14:02.33 | SpongeJr | network 192.168.1.0 ... that's right, isn't it? the network is 192.168.1.xxx and the gateway is .1 |
| 14:02.37 | DwyaneWade | if i modify XConfig how could i reload the interface without rebooting? |
| 14:02.39 | DwyaneWade | startx? |
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| 14:02.45 | shingouz | SpongeJr: for a manual setup of the routing table, 'route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0' |
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| 14:03.01 | SpongeJr | listening, sending, sending... eht0: transmit timed out |
| 14:03.32 | rob^^^ | did you type eth0 or eht0? |
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| 14:04.13 | SpongeJr | eth0 |
| 14:04.26 | SpongeJr | sorry, that was a chat typo |
| 14:04.44 | SpongeJr | SIOCADDRT: File exists when trying to do the route add |
| 14:04.54 | DwyaneWade | how to reload XConfig without rebooting? |
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| 14:05.15 | shingouz | SpongeJr: just for the hell of it, check the cable and link lights |
| 14:05.20 | cahoot | DwyaneWade: restart X |
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| 14:05.47 | SpongeJr | link lights been lit the whole time... it all works in windows on another partition too |
| 14:05.55 | shingouz | hmm |
| 14:06.00 | SpongeJr | could change the cable but it's all been working and probably will if I boot into win |
| 14:06.10 | SpongeJr | is it possible I need a NIC driver? |
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| 14:06.46 | DwyaneWade | cahoot: how? |
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| 14:06.51 | DwyaneWade | startx? |
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| 14:07.09 | cahoot | DwyaneWade: if that's the way you usually start it yes |
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| 14:07.40 | fireba11 | SpongeJr: highly unlikely .. NICs are the one piece of hardware that is almost always working with debian without hazzle |
| 14:09.01 | SpongeJr | that's what I thought... |
| 14:09.09 | SpongeJr | rats |
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| 14:09.46 | GutterPunk | Hi |
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| 14:10.17 | SpongeJr | it noticed when I unplugged the cable, too... went to half-duplex, then back to full when I plugged it back in |
| 14:10.28 | blakkino | mhmh |
| 14:10.50 | blakkino | why /dev/sound/ dir doesn't get created by udevd? |
| 14:10.59 | blakkino | (when debian modprobe all sound modules) |
| 14:11.05 | valdyn | blakkino: why should it exist? |
| 14:11.21 | blakkino | there is /dev/dsp .. but i need to modify the volume with somethings like alsamixer.. |
| 14:11.22 | SpongeJr | yet I keep getting eth0: transmit timed out |
| 14:11.26 | cahoot | blakkino: not looking for /dev/snd? |
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| 14:11.30 | blakkino | ah |
| 14:11.31 | blakkino | :) |
| 14:11.33 | blakkino | changed name.. |
| 14:11.44 | blakkino | tnx |
| 14:11.46 | SpongeJr | think throwing a second NIC in is worth a shot? |
| 14:11.48 | blakkino | still alsamixer doesn't work |
| 14:11.49 | GutterPunk | I get weird behaviour of my NIC during setup. The dhcp request failed so I checked in another tty if my network device was detected. Apparently it was, BUT ifconfig gives me weird info: eth0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 31-4F-C0-00-30-F3-EC-10-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 |
| 14:12.09 | GutterPunk | It's a USB connected networking device |
| 14:12.12 | idefx | Hi, does anyone knows if there is a problem with xorg-common in unstable ??? |
| 14:12.17 | blakkino | also |
| 14:12.20 | blakkino | another question |
| 14:12.29 | blakkino | i have found maybe a bug in debian-amd64 |
| 14:12.33 | valdyn | !tell idefx -about bts |
| 14:12.47 | blakkino | basically the SHELL env variable isn't set when you open a gnome-terminal |
| 14:12.48 | GutterPunk | Usually I just modprobe "usbnet" and it works, but with the debian kernel it behaves funny.. |
| 14:12.51 | cahoot | blakkino: does /proc/asound exist? |
| 14:13.18 | blakkino | but i can't find where it should be set.. no /etc/profile no /etc/bashrc not /home/.bash_stuff |
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| 14:13.39 | blakkino | (not having the SHELL env cause some strange bugs.. like gdb not working) |
| 14:14.01 | blakkino | <cahoot> blakkino: does /proc/asound exist? <- yes |
| 14:14.13 | blakkino | <cahoot> blakkino: not looking for /dev/snd? <- yes, it is here |
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| 14:14.20 | blakkino | but still alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 14:14.34 | valdyn | blakkino: cat /proc/asound/devices |
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| 14:14.49 | blakkino | # cat /proc/asound/devices |
| 14:14.50 | blakkino | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:14.50 | blakkino | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:15.11 | Diogo | is there a package that installs postfix with smtp authentication enabled? |
| 14:15.19 | valdyn | !alsa one-liner |
| 14:15.19 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 14:15.24 | blakkino | mhmh.. in that machine snd_via82xx is enought to have sound working, usually |
| 14:15.26 | valdyn | blakkino: ^^ |
| 14:15.37 | valdyn | blakkino: that never is enough |
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| 14:15.48 | blakkino | valdyn, it doesn't find the audio card? |
| 14:15.50 | blakkino | strange.. |
| 14:16.06 | valdyn | blakkino: that's not what i said |
| 14:16.33 | blakkino | (i usually use my own kernels.. now i'm trying to stay with the default ones + right modules) |
| 14:16.47 | blakkino | valdyn, so? |
| 14:16.56 | valdyn | blakkino: read what dpkg said |
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| 14:17.11 | Diogo | is there a package that installs postfix with smtp authentication enabled? |
| 14:17.18 | blakkino | dpkg isn't speaking actualyl |
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| 14:17.47 | blakkino | uff :) i'm lazy.. nobody has already meet that problem? |
| 14:17.59 | valdyn | blakkino: cant you fucking read? |
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| 14:18.04 | emergo | where do I go from this error ? kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-generic: Depends: kernel-headers-2.6.8-11 but it is not going to be ins |
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| 14:18.16 | blakkino | valdyn i can't read if i don't know what to read |
| 14:18.17 | blakkino | :) |
| 14:18.23 | valdyn | !alsa one-liner |
| 14:18.23 | dpkg | well, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 14:18.28 | valdyn | !tell blakkino -about alsa one-liner |
| 14:18.32 | blakkino | ah alsaconf.. |
| 14:18.35 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 14:18.36 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, qotd90 is <rituraj> which disks have probs? sata? <directhex|work> rituraj, whatever's in my laptop, and i've heard people with i915 desktops failing installation <jim> then buy a controller put it in the pci slot and be done with it <directhex|work> jim, what a fucking useless waste of time and money for all concerned <directhex|work> jim, and handily, there are hundreds of pci disk controllers for laptops, aren't there |
| 14:18.38 | GutterPunk | Please if anyone knows what causes this error during setup I'd like to know. Need a debian install by tomorrow :( |
| 14:18.55 | blakkino | there is to call alsaconf |
| 14:19.13 | SpongeJr | hmmm well hopefully I'll work this out |
| 14:19.35 | SpongeJr | thanks for your help rob, shin, etc. |
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| 14:19.40 | blakkino | i have forgotten :) |
| 14:19.52 | blakkino | i have used it some years ago with woody.. |
| 14:19.57 | valdyn | emergo: run apt-get update and try again |
| 14:20.07 | blakkino | anyway most .deb configuration is automatic.. sound should be also.. |
| 14:20.20 | emergo | valdyn: I did.. what else can I do |
| 14:20.27 | quiet | i keep hearing that 'prelinking' great increases speed...just I don't know much about it.. anyone care to share? |
| 14:20.30 | blakkino | tnx valdyn |
| 14:20.54 | valdyn | quiet: apt-cache show prelink, dont expect to much |
| 14:21.14 | valdyn | emergo: why do you need that package? |
| 14:21.34 | valdyn | emergo: just try 'apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)' |
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| 14:21.54 | emergo | valdyn: I need the include folder to compile som stuff for vmware (vmon) |
| 14:22.38 | emergo | val I get the same |
| 14:22.57 | valdyn | emergo: you get what exactly? |
| 14:23.19 | valdyn | emergo: which debian release are you running? |
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| 14:24.22 | emergo | valdyn: testing amd64 |
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| 14:24.35 | alapzaj | msg pre-eng invite vtomek danger |
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| 14:24.46 | ardchoille | Hello all |
| 14:24.51 | valdyn | emergo: use a kernel that is actually still supported in debian / testing, apt-cache search linux-image, pick one , install one |
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| 14:25.11 | valdyn | emergo: ( and add the appropriate linux-headers |
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| 14:25.40 | emergo | valdyn: how do I know if its supported or not ? |
| 14:25.44 | ardchoille | where can I get some debian swirl logos (transparent bg) suitable for wallpaper? |
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| 14:26.08 | valdyn | emergo: apt-cache search will only show supported packages or installed packages |
| 14:27.10 | valdyn | emergo: or use apt-cache policy, but that is redundant with the information at hand |
| 14:27.44 | emergo | valdyn: so the linux-image-thing isnt a kernel i compile myself. |
| 14:27.53 | valdyn | emergo: nope |
| 14:28.34 | emergo | valdyn: thanks a million. I just ran with what worked for too long I guess |
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| 14:29.22 | emergo | valdyn: do you know what amd K8 is ? I have an athlon amd64 x2 |
| 14:29.51 | valdyn | emergo: thats _for_ your system but i would stick to k7 |
| 14:30.19 | shingouz | ardchoille: iirc, the debian website has them somewhere under "art" or sometihng |
| 14:30.25 | OleMoudi | whats with famd suddenly at 100% cpu? it's been a while and its still running with 100% cpu |
| 14:30.32 | OleMoudi | should I kill it? |
| 14:30.39 | azeem | OleMoudi: you can try |
| 14:30.45 | azeem | fam is known to do that sometimes |
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| 14:31.57 | idefx | Hi, is there an easy way to get a list of the package i have installed from experimental ? |
| 14:32.02 | emergo | valdyn: K8 unstable? |
| 14:32.06 | ardchoille | shingouz: thank you, I'll search for that again |
| 14:32.49 | emergo | valdyn: no option for K7, only generic or k8 |
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| 14:34.41 | Diogo | how do I solve a 'Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?' from aptitude? |
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| 14:35.10 | bbrazil | Diogo: are you root? |
| 14:35.19 | Diogo | bbrazil, yes I am :) |
| 14:35.28 | bbrazil | Diogo: is there another aptitude running? |
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| 14:35.40 | Diogo | bbrazil, nope |
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| 14:36.00 | Diogo | bbrazil, nor apt nor dpkg also. |
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| 14:36.55 | bbrazil | Diogo: there should be a stale lock file somewhere under /var/lib/, if you delete it it should work |
| 14:36.56 | apache_https | hi there... having problem with configuring apache2 and https access on debian sarge, anyone can help? |
| 14:37.07 | bbrazil | Diogo: strace might be useful |
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| 14:37.23 | Diogo | bbrazil, is the file named 'lock'? |
| 14:37.36 | bbrazil | Diogo: could be, might be ending in lock |
| 14:37.45 | fireba11 | apache_https: sure, where is your problem ? |
| 14:37.54 | Diogo | l:/var/lib# find . -name lock |
| 14:37.54 | Diogo | ./apt/lists/lock |
| 14:37.55 | Diogo | ./dpkg/lock |
| 14:37.55 | Diogo | ./aptitude/lock |
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| 14:38.38 | apache_https | i configured the server, that it listens on port 443, but still cant get https access on it - or maybe im mistaken in some way? |
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| 14:40.40 | Diogo | bbrazil, deleting those files didn't work... how do I use strace? |
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| 14:40.44 | fireba11 | apache_https: setting listener to port 443 is correct .. you need to do a bit more though |
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| 14:40.57 | apache_https | fireba11: i've generated apache.pem file, and copied default site-file and enabled SSLEngine On and SSLCertificateFile |
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| 14:41.25 | apache_https | fireba11: what did i miss? |
| 14:41.25 | bbrazil | Diogo: do 'strace aptitude', see what files it's trying to open |
| 14:41.38 | bbrazil | Diogo: s/open/access/ |
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| 14:42.03 | djp | i gather the gnome-cups-manager is broken under debian 3.1 sarge? how do i fix the issue of cancelling a print job with it or do i have to use the web interface? |
| 14:42.11 | fireba11 | apache_https: did you set port for virtual host ? |
| 14:42.36 | Diogo | bbrazil, ok |
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| 14:42.59 | fireba11 | apache_https: and did you set the ssl thingies in the virtual host ? |
| 14:43.02 | apache_https | fireba11: think not... what is the option? |
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| 14:43.45 | apache_https | fireba11: just the two i mentioned above: SSLEngine On and SSLCertificateFile |
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| 14:44.40 | fireba11 | apache_https: please join #flood so i can paste you |
| 14:44.49 | ardchoille | shingouz: the CD covers page has lots of links that I overlooked earlier, but there is lots of artwork there :) |
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| 14:45.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: hey! |
| 14:45.58 | abrotman | tarzeau: addict! |
| 14:46.07 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've done the itp, and i'll try the deep shit stuff tonight |
| 14:46.12 | abrotman | tarzeau: coolest GL game in a while eh ? :) |
| 14:46.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: you're the uberaddict |
| 14:46.25 | abrotman | tarzeau: i just try them .. |
| 14:46.30 | abrotman | it was a lot of fun |
| 14:46.33 | tarzeau | abrotman: i just package them .. |
| 14:46.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: package xpete too! |
| 14:46.49 | howesey | anyone know of any utils that will control fan speed under mac os x? |
| 14:46.55 | fireba11 | apache_https: also, did you enable mod_ssl ? |
| 14:47.02 | abrotman | howesey: guess what ... #osx |
| 14:47.07 | howesey | :o |
| 14:47.10 | shingouz | ardchoille: ;) |
| 14:47.32 | tarzeau | abrotman: anything else? |
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| 14:47.48 | T_V | hello all. what could be wrong if i dont see any information into files like /proc/meminfo , /proc/cpuinfo , etc. its a clean install of debian |
| 14:47.53 | abrotman | tarzeau: synfig and wired .. but i think they both have ITPs already |
| 14:48.22 | apache_https | fireba11: thanks a lot... it was the port missing |
| 14:48.22 | tarzeau | abrotman: synfig is the 2d animation stuff right? and wired? |
| 14:48.28 | abrotman | wired i told stew about ... |
| 14:48.34 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've checked tavli3d.sf.net but it sucks |
| 14:48.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: wired is the weird source, that i'll not touch i guess |
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| 14:49.00 | dvm1981 | T_V: You do for ex: "cat /proc/meminfo"? |
| 14:49.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: and the deep stuff is scons... unf, but first i try how the game is |
| 14:49.31 | apache_https | fireba11: maybe im a rookie, but it wasnt mentioned in any howto i read about apache+ssl combination |
| 14:49.41 | T_V | dvm1981: yes (or vi /proc/meminfo) |
| 14:49.46 | blaylock | anyone here have tikiwiki installed on sarge? |
| 14:49.50 | petemc | T_V: does "mount" show proc mounted? |
| 14:49.59 | fireba11 | apache_https: true .. but it's pretty obvious you need mod ssl to be enabled and default debian it's not |
| 14:50.03 | T_V | euhmm.. good pount. lol.. brb |
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| 14:52.02 | stew | abrotman: sinfig is in new iirc |
| 14:52.22 | abrotman | stew: it is?!?! |
| 14:52.54 | stew | abrotman: yeah, zakame is packaging it |
| 14:52.59 | stew | no |
| 14:53.02 | abrotman | stew: ah .. it is |
| 14:53.03 | stew | pabs |
| 14:53.09 | abrotman | pabs3 |
| 14:53.12 | stew | yeah |
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| 14:55.39 | ski | where can i find the config (or doc for it) for the 'Debian' menu (under 'Applications', in Gnome) ? |
| 14:56.09 | abrotman | tarzeau: wired .. weird source? |
| 14:56.29 | MatBoy | Someone using Horde here with Sessions in a DB ? |
| 14:56.37 | stew | ski: /usr/share/menu |
| 14:56.39 | T_V | petemc & dvm1981 : proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
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| 14:56.46 | T_V | so it has to be mounted :) |
| 14:56.55 | ski | stew : ty |
| 14:57.20 | dvm1981 | T_V: 'ls /proc', quesque ca donne ? |
| 14:57.23 | dvm1981 | oeps |
| 14:57.31 | dvm1981 | T_V: 'ls /proc', what show that? |
| 14:57.44 | T_V | hehe. i did understand it (a little) |
| 14:58.07 | T_V | its listing the dir and cpuinfo, meminfo, etc are shown |
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| 14:58.13 | dvm1981 | Im on a french one :-/ |
| 14:58.20 | abrotman | tarzeau: if you want stuff to package .. i can find lots of it i |
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| 14:58.24 | abrotman | tarzeau: if you want stuff to package .. i can find lots of it i'm sure |
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| 14:59.10 | dvm1981 | T_V: So you can browse on that part. And open an other file on it, would that work? |
| 14:59.22 | wishie | i want to install subversion, but it requires libneon24, but it appears that libneon25 is only available to me.. i went to look on snapshot.debian.net, but found that it is not around anymore.. how can i get libneon24 ? |
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| 14:59.45 | abrotman | wishie: did you do an apt-get update first? |
| 14:59.49 | wishie | yes |
| 14:59.55 | T_V | thats the strange part. i can open it, view it, browse it (even in the numbered dirs) but it doesnt show data |
| 14:59.59 | wishie | and then apt-cache search libneon |
| 15:00.11 | wishie | all i get is libneon25 |
| 15:00.23 | abrotman | in sid? |
| 15:00.24 | T_V | lets do a remount :S its a testmachine |
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| 15:00.37 | wishie | yeah, in sid |
| 15:00.57 | tecky | does anyone use slackware ? |
| 15:01.14 | wishie | tecky: the people in #slackware might |
| 15:01.16 | azeem | wishie: that bug is fixed, apparently |
| 15:01.24 | tecky | wishie: it wont let me join #slackware |
| 15:01.33 | abrotman | tecky: try ##linux |
| 15:01.34 | azeem | wishie: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=355356 |
| 15:01.35 | tecky | its putting me in ##slackware |
| 15:01.52 | abrotman | tecky: maybe it's forwaarding you .. #slackware may forward to ##slackware |
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| 15:01.58 | tecky | ah |
| 15:02.10 | tarzeau | abrotman: go ahead, i'm in top mood, and i've had fantastic last months |
| 15:02.16 | corfe | how do I update apt to the latest gpg key? I'm in unstable, and as of late (when upgrading) it tells me my packages can't be authenticated |
| 15:02.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: hehe |
| 15:02.20 | tarzeau | abrotman: and guess what, it's all getting even better |
| 15:02.27 | abrotman | corfe: read the topic |
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| 15:02.35 | abrotman | tarzeau: you're coming to philly? |
| 15:02.36 | sanxiyn | wishie: Known problem. |
| 15:02.43 | wishie | hmm, perhaps my mirror is behind then.. |
| 15:02.48 | corfe | oh I see |
| 15:02.49 | wishie | and doesnt have that package yet |
| 15:02.51 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm still waiting for my ticket to unlimited travelling |
| 15:02.56 | azeem | wishie: no, read the last message of that bug report |
| 15:03.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: but yeah, why not. after that i can go to heaven and hell |
| 15:03.09 | sanxiyn | wishie: No, it's broken for everybody right now. |
| 15:03.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: whats/wheres philly? |
| 15:03.14 | wishie | ahh |
| 15:03.14 | corfe | sorry, I know the topic is to avoid people like me bumbling in and asking that sort of question, I skimmed and didn't see any apt-key command.. thanks :P |
| 15:03.17 | T_V | dvm1981: it does show some information atm using cat /proc/meminfo but it doesnt show anything with vi /proc/meminfo |
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| 15:03.24 | T_V | but that doesnt matter |
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| 15:03.43 | sanxiyn | wishie: You can get updated Subversion from incoming now... |
| 15:03.48 | sanxiyn | (It passed NEW today.) |
| 15:03.53 | T_V | i hope.. strange is. i do have a suse machine also. and it shows the info with vi /proc/meminfo |
| 15:04.05 | sanxiyn | wishie: http://incoming.debian.org/ |
| 15:04.12 | dvm1981 | T_V: Yes, it does not matter, but there are an problem somethings else ... |
| 15:04.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: philadelphia ... |
| 15:04.25 | pipeline | T_V: Perhaps it's a 2.4 versus 2.6 thing. |
| 15:04.51 | dvm1981 | T_V: I have also try it with vim |
| 15:04.52 | tarzeau | abrotman: the us? the uncivilized 3rd world? no way |
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| 15:05.26 | tarzeau | abrotman: ;) j/k, you find me a place to sleep? near some nice chicks? and good food supply w/ internet? and beach (or snow)? |
| 15:05.27 | dvm1981 | T_V: Try you to view it as normal user, it also not matter but ... |
| 15:05.31 | quiet | tightvncserver standard port is 5900, right? |
| 15:05.32 | abrotman | tarzeau: may i remind you of the quadripeds in turkey? |
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| 15:05.45 | T_V | dvm1981: true/ lets check with vim first.. |
| 15:05.48 | rodrigo | how do I set up a joystick on debian? |
| 15:05.52 | abrotman | tarzeau: how about a few days in center city |
| 15:06.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: and i can be your guest? |
| 15:06.08 | ski | stew : i'm testing a variant of a program .. can i just add a new file in /usr/lib/menu and then run update-menu ? |
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| 15:06.26 | abrotman | tarzeau: i don't live in center city .. but i could get a hotel down there too ... |
| 15:06.28 | corfe | rodrigo: just load the appropriate kernel modules, there shouldn't be any debian-specific steps needed to make it work |
| 15:06.32 | stew | ski: yes, update-menus |
| 15:06.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: wait .. are you 21? |
| 15:06.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm 28 |
| 15:06.42 | abrotman | and we'll drag stew too! |
| 15:06.43 | T_V | lol.. its shows the info with vim.. and also with vi atm (vim wasnt installed a few minutes ago) |
| 15:06.50 | stew | abrotman: when? |
| 15:06.53 | T_V | maybe thats the problem |
| 15:06.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: and play bub-n-bros.sf.net ? |
| 15:06.55 | dvm1981 | quiet: I think, and another (5901??) for the web interface or so |
| 15:06.56 | abrotman | stew: whenever :) |
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| 15:07.02 | rodrigo | corfe, what are the appropriate kernel modules? |
| 15:07.03 | tarzeau | stew: as soon as i got my passport, ok? |
| 15:07.09 | abrotman | tarzeau: do you know what a "Closer" is? :) |
| 15:07.09 | stew | ok |
| 15:07.10 | wishie | hmm, now i need a libapr0 version that i cant get either.. |
| 15:07.14 | corfe | rodrigo: let me see, one moment |
| 15:07.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: no? |
| 15:07.18 | wishie | libsvn0 needs libapr0 |
| 15:07.19 | abrotman | heh |
| 15:07.37 | tarzeau | abrotman: let me check google pictrues and dict |
| 15:07.39 | corfe | rodrigo: I'm assuming you didn't compile your own kernel, you're just using debian's kernel? |
| 15:07.44 | abrotman | tarzeau: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball |
| 15:07.59 | rodrigo | yep corfe |
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| 15:08.14 | wishie | hmm, its working now.. nevermind. |
| 15:08.19 | ski | stew : hm .. i don't see my added program .. do i have to do something to refresh ? or maybe this indicates that my added menu file was invalid ? |
| 15:08.22 | corfe | rodrigo: Is your joystick USB? If so, is USB (other devices) working on your system already? |
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| 15:08.28 | T_V | dvm1981: thnx for the help. it does work now. im going to check the logfiles one more time. |
| 15:08.33 | quiet | dvm1981, hrm... i'm trying to get my router to forward to a box... i am ssh-ed to it... i started vnc server on :1 i have the router forwarding 5900 to the same IP... |
| 15:08.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: that? http://3media.initialized.org/photos/2003-07-19/002%20Blueberries%20closer.JPG |
| 15:08.40 | corfe | rodrigo: Or is it a gameport joystick? |
| 15:08.48 | abrotman | tarzeau: no .. i gave ytou the link |
| 15:08.52 | rodrigo | yes, it's usb, and it's the first usb thing i'm trying to get to work |
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| 15:09.13 | stew | ski: that should be all, perhaps you are looking for it in some gnome specific menu and not the debian menu? |
| 15:09.23 | dvm1981 | T_V: What was the solution? Viewing it as root user?? |
| 15:09.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: show me pictures of your house... |
| 15:09.48 | tarzeau | stew: do you have a photo of yourself? |
| 15:09.49 | T_V | no. i think installing vim. because after that vi is able to view the data as well |
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| 15:09.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: i don't have any .. but i live in the 'burbs |
| 15:10.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: can you take some for me? |
| 15:10.22 | abrotman | i could i suppose |
| 15:10.38 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Whats burbs?? dict not find it :-( |
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| 15:10.48 | wishie | suburbs |
| 15:10.52 | abrotman | dvm1981: movie .. with tom hanks! |
| 15:10.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm not really into baseball, nor watching sports (unless women are involved, in miniskirts) |
| 15:11.03 | dvm1981 | wishie: thx ;-) |
| 15:11.05 | abrotman | !dict suburbs |
| 15:11.07 | dpkg | could not find definition for suburbs |
| 15:11.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: but we can go do sports, like morning jogging, night swimming and snowboarding |
| 15:11.14 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 15:11.56 | abrotman | dvm1981: 'bumbs is slang/short for suburbs .. sometimes referred to as "The Burbs" etc .. |
| 15:12.00 | ski | stew : no, looking in 'Debian' submenu .. should i add the file to /usr/share/menu/default or /etc/menu or /usr/lib/menu ? |
| 15:12.04 | rhalff_ | hi how do I get a list of all packages installed on a system ? I want to use it to setup another machines with the same package list. |
| 15:12.11 | abrotman | !menu |
| 15:12.11 | dpkg | menu is, like, the cool Debian program that handles adding items to your windowmanager/desktop environment's menus when you install new packages (ie, install gimp, a new 'gimp' item is added to all of your window managers), or to add new entries less /etc/menu/README or ask me about menu-methods |
| 15:12.17 | vulture | rhalff_: dpkg --get-selections |
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| 15:12.22 | abrotman | !tell rhalff_ about debian clone |
| 15:12.27 | ski | (stew : also it could be that the file is invalid .. what significance does the '?package' part have ?) |
| 15:12.27 | vulture | rhalff_: and nicely enough, there's a dpkg --set-selections too |
| 15:12.32 | rhalff_ | thanks vulture |
| 15:12.40 | rhalff_ | ok even more great :) |
| 15:12.43 | wishie | rhalff_: dpkg -i |grep ^ii >packages.txt |
| 15:12.43 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Thx for the additional infos :-) |
| 15:12.56 | wishie | heh |
| 15:13.12 | Sonny | hi, why does everytime that I boot my debian (gnome) there appears 2 terminals windows loaded? |
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| 15:13.33 | abrotman | because you saved your session like that |
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| 15:13.38 | dvm1981 | Sonny: Because it's in an 'startup' file?? |
| 15:13.52 | Sonny | dvm1981, where is it? |
| 15:14.08 | dvm1981 | Look, just a bit above ^^ |
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| 15:15.12 | Sonny | abrotman, in my session I just added netappplet |
| 15:15.15 | wishie | p.d.o is down, or horribly slow ? |
| 15:15.40 | abrotman | wishie: seems gone |
| 15:15.48 | wishie | hmm |
| 15:15.57 | wishie | can i use dpkg to find what package /usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile is in ? |
| 15:16.11 | conn | can someone do me a favour? apt-get stress and invoke it with "stress -c 100" (to create 100 sqrt() workers) while running in gnome, and tell me if it interferes with multitasking to the extent that the mouse is almost unusuable and extremely jerky? (control+c will exit the program as long as your terminal is focused) |
| 15:16.13 | abrotman | wishie: apt-file search? |
| 15:16.19 | abrotman | !find python2.3/config/Makefile sid |
| 15:16.30 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'python2.3/config/Makefile' (1): (/usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile) in python/python2.3-dev. |
| 15:16.36 | wishie | hmm, righto |
| 15:16.37 | wishie | thanks |
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| 15:17.03 | wishie | this system is so out of date.. its like, sid, from 6 months ago |
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| 15:17.11 | wishie | havent had net access for a while. |
| 15:17.11 | PleXo | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
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| 15:17.49 | PleXo | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
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| 15:18.25 | abrotman | PleXo: please don't do that |
| 15:18.38 | stew | !ops PleXo attempting firewall exploits |
| 15:18.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: PleXo attempting firewall exploits |
| 15:19.00 | zinx | stew: succeeded in knocking one person off, actually |
| 15:19.00 | abrotman | i told bear too |
| 15:19.03 | zinx | stew: Twice. |
| 15:19.14 | LoRez | now, now, PleXo, you wouldn't want to get klined for that, would you? |
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| 15:19.23 | abrotman | doing it twice .. seems he does :) |
| 15:19.24 | PleXo | i dont give 2 fucks lol |
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| 15:20.12 | LoRez | azeem: that was pointless. he's been klined. |
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| 15:20.20 | wishie | hmm, i foolishly made my / partition only 2gb. now i need it to be bigger.. is there a way to safely resize reiserfs ? |
| 15:20.24 | emesa | is epiphany decended from mozilla? |
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| 15:20.34 | azeem | LoRez: he's been? |
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| 15:20.42 | LoRez | azeem: yep. did it myself. |
| 15:20.52 | azeem | sorry, I didn't see that |
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| 15:21.37 | LoRez | you autonuked him right before I got him :) |
| 15:21.58 | LoRez | I just wanted to see if he was remorseful for being an idiot first |
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| 15:22.31 | abrotman | LoRez: right .. he did it twice in a row :) |
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| 15:22.35 | azeem | LoRez: yeah sorry, I didn't see you talking to him |
| 15:22.46 | azeem | anyway, I doubt he would have been :) |
| 15:23.06 | LoRez | abrotman: he had done it in ##linux too, so it's wasn't a localized thing either |
| 15:23.17 | dvm1981 | But wath PleXo do exactly? I have not followed but not understand what he have try :-( |
| 15:23.29 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.38 | abrotman | and some people need a spell checker |
| 15:23.42 | tiny | How much space a debootstrap process takes for installing base system? |
| 15:23.46 | mtnman | abrotman: patience... all will die, eventually. |
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| 15:23.50 | ski | (stew : i managed a workaround .. ty fyi) |
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| 15:23.58 | abrotman | dvm1981: it's an exploit that resets routers .. check bloggage.org |
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| 15:24.44 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Thanks :-) the guys here know thing man, really :-/ |
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| 15:25.09 | Idle0ne | can someone here help me? i am new to debian and linux all together, trying to install the kernel sources for 2.6 so that i can get nvidia's driver to install :( |
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| 15:25.51 | thingfish | Idle0ne: the kernel-header-* packages should be sufficient. |
| 15:25.57 | Idle0ne | i did apt-cache search kernel and only see the sources for 2.4 however /sbin/kernelversion says i am running 2.6 |
| 15:26.02 | Idle0ne | thingfish: let me try that |
| 15:26.06 | TTimo | "some mirrors borked"? geez, ftp.us.debian.org .. |
| 15:26.32 | mtnman | idle0ne: search on linux-source instead of kernel-source |
| 15:26.40 | Idle0ne | just found linux-headers-2.6.15-1-amd64-generic |
| 15:26.50 | abrotman | azeem: do you know anytihng about p.d.o or any of the various hosts apparently missing (besides joey's blog) |
| 15:27.02 | thingfish | sorry; I forget that some people run etch and sid. |
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| 15:27.25 | |cronic| | Is there a package of sendmail that will allow for "sub" email accounts? |
| 15:27.31 | |cronic| | Like an account that the user can create? |
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| 15:28.30 | Linx_Noob | perl -mcpam -e shell, get error msg "Can't locate cpam.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.0.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .)., was trying to install modules needed for spamassasin, i believe my makefile was not specified and cpam d/l'd update, any suggestions on how to recover from this? |
| 15:29.14 | azeem | abrotman: I thought the ones at usoul (sp?) are back, but puccini p.d.o) is still down |
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| 15:29.47 | abrotman | azeem: i guess that would affect packages.d.o ? |
| 15:29.50 | abrotman | ah yes... |
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| 15:32.29 | wishie | is there a way to resize a reiserfs partition, without losing data ? as its my / partition |
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| 15:33.42 | fatal | you can resize reiserfs filesystems, but your partition needs various levels of magic to be resized.... |
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| 15:34.33 | fatal | wishie: reiserfsprogs |
| 15:34.41 | wishie | but it must be unmounted, right ? |
| 15:34.53 | dvm1981 | abrotman: That exploit concern Netgear routers? |
| 15:34.54 | fatal | wishie: preferably... |
| 15:35.11 | fatal | wishie: reiser should support online resize though IIRC... |
| 15:35.25 | Idle0ne | thanks guys the linux-headers worked :D |
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| 15:36.07 | abrotman | dvm1981: some of them .. |
| 15:36.11 | emesa | ok, I've installed the non-free flash plugin via the package in the debian nonfree repo |
| 15:36.12 | abrotman | dvm1981: read all thel inks |
| 15:36.14 | abrotman | the links |
| 15:36.21 | wishie | hmm, it will do an online resize, if the device has space for it.. |
| 15:36.25 | emesa | now how do I get it to work in the broswers? |
| 15:36.35 | wishie | so i guess id have to somehow shrink the other partition first |
| 15:36.38 | emesa | s/brsowers/browsers/g |
| 15:36.40 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Ok, im on the good article, first i had read some other iterested :-) |
| 15:36.46 | wishie | then shrink the other filesystem etc |
| 15:36.50 | wishie | sounds like a pain in the ass |
| 15:37.01 | emesa | looks like there's some kinda of setup script according to something I foudn online |
| 15:37.05 | emesa | but can't find it on the system |
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| 15:37.34 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Userfull that blog, i like that :-) |
| 15:37.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: so did you find some more software to package? |
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| 15:38.03 | abrotman | dvm1981: it's lilo's .. |
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| 15:38.28 | abrotman | tarzeau: nope .. i might look tonight .. happypenguin.org was where i found danger of the deep and briquolo |
| 15:38.32 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Yes, not forget that i have an little head and im an Dutch one :-/ |
| 15:38.46 | dvm1981 | abrotman: lilo's?? |
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| 15:38.54 | abrotman | dvm1981: the guy who runs freenode? |
| 15:38.58 | MyWay | hi |
| 15:38.59 | tarzeau | abrotman: that was also where i found http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
| 15:39.01 | Idle0ne | hmm odd |
| 15:39.07 | MyWay | i have a problem with my Printer! |
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| 15:39.10 | Idle0ne | guys, i installed the driver and ran nvidia-config |
| 15:39.14 | abrotman | tarzeau: lots of stuff there |
| 15:39.22 | Idle0ne | however when i start X something is wrong, i get grey bars on my screen |
| 15:39.26 | greench | hello people :) could anyone tell me a 'low memory' torrnet prog |
| 15:39.30 | abrotman | tarzeau: like "Stendhal" looks interesting |
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| 15:39.39 | MyWay | When i start print anything, the printer start printing a document that i never wrote! |
| 15:39.43 | abrotman | greench: rtorrent? |
| 15:39.48 | MyWay | And it never finish! |
| 15:39.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: indeed |
| 15:39.53 | dvm1981 | MyWay: I have an problem with my little head, an tip to make it bigger ? |
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| 15:40.03 | yggdrasil | good mornin. can somone recomend a good console based mp3 playlist editor ? |
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| 15:40.14 | dvm1981 | I want an big head :-/ or an bigger one :-) |
| 15:40.19 | MyWay | sorry dvm1981 :P |
| 15:40.38 | MyWay | abrotman: hi |
| 15:40.57 | abrotman | hi |
| 15:41.06 | abrotman | tarzeau: and snake 3d! |
| 15:41.11 | dvm1981 | The guys here, know thing, some times im thinking where he take it from |
| 15:41.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: nah, tried zatacka yet? |
| 15:41.26 | MyWay | abrotman: why when i start printing something my printer start print a document that i never wrote? i don't know what it print :P |
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| 15:41.57 | abrotman | tarzeau: no .. but i did try .. something you told me to the other day .. some board game |
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| 15:42.00 | abrotman | MyWay: i don't own a printer |
| 15:42.02 | dvm1981 | MyWay: Some strange symbols on the paper? |
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| 15:42.29 | MyWay | dvm1981: not random symbols it start with #!PS-Adobe-3.0 |
| 15:42.33 | MyWay | ##Creator |
| 15:42.35 | MyWay | and other lines.. |
| 15:42.37 | abrotman | hehe |
| 15:42.42 | abrotman | it's printing the raw PS |
| 15:42.48 | MyWay | what's this :P |
| 15:42.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: hmm, don't remember which |
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| 15:43.25 | MyWay | it's very long, how can i don't print it? :P |
| 15:43.28 | Linx_Noob | anyone have a suggestion for a linux/perl channel? |
| 15:43.33 | abrotman | tarzeau: starts with .. a c or m maybe ? |
| 15:43.33 | quw | //echo -a $calc(9999999999 - 3333333333333 * 99999999999 + 2222222 - 999999 * 40000000 - 98999 + 2222) |
| 15:43.35 | abrotman | Linx_Noob: #perl ? |
| 15:43.41 | quw | sorry |
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| 15:43.43 | Idle0ne | anyone that can help me get my display working? i am running a 21" widescreen |
| 15:43.47 | tarzeau | abrotman: nope, don't remember it |
| 15:43.52 | Idle0ne | 1680x1050 native resolution |
| 15:43.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: mazeofgalious? |
| 15:44.03 | abrotman | tarzeau: nah .. it was a text board game |
| 15:44.21 | Eulex | Idle0ne, what video card? |
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| 15:44.46 | abrotman | tarzeau: new game to try! .. and i haven't yet .. but i may later .. http://happypenguin.org/show?Angry%2C%20Drunken%20Dwarves |
| 15:44.54 | Idle0ne | Nvidia Geforce 6600 |
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| 15:45.00 | mr_claus | hi, i installed debian etch and tried to login into gnome, after successfull login the splash screen appears and nothing happens |
| 15:45.13 | Idle0ne | had to think cause i have the 6800 in the windows machine lol |
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| 15:45.24 | anisX | hello greetings |
| 15:45.34 | dvm1981 | MyWay: I think that he print the document, like it's are. If you try to hack that file, you see exactly the same symbols. A bit like you open an text file. Some dificults to explain it :-/ |
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| 15:45.53 | anisX | one stupid question : when i execute apt-get upgrade , i got this msg : E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
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| 15:46.29 | MyWay | i don't understand hm, but why i have to print it? i don't like it :P |
| 15:46.37 | MyWay | i want simply print my doc.! |
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| 15:46.38 | Eulex | Idle0ne, then you should use the nv or nvidia driver. and you need to add the 1680x1050 resolution manually in your XF86Config-4 or xorg.conf |
| 15:46.48 | abrotman | !e2fsprogs loop |
| 15:46.48 | dpkg | well, e2fsprogs loop is you are running packages which are older than the current debian stable and are trying to upgrade to debian testing which isn't supported, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "testing" or "etch" or "unstable" with "stable" then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; then if you still want testing, edit sources.list again, and change stable to testing and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:46.53 | abrotman | anisX: ^^ |
| 15:46.59 | ciroro | Hi, I know I have 512 MB of RAM, is there a command-line way to show wheter this is 1x512 of 2x256? |
| 15:46.59 | Idle0ne | Eulex: i have the nvidia driver installed |
| 15:47.08 | Idle0ne | but i cannot get it to show anything but grey bars when i start x |
| 15:47.17 | tarzeau | abrotman: hah that's already packaged aand called, lapispuzzle.app |
| 15:47.33 | abrotman | tarzeau: Angry Drunken Dwarves! .. do eet! |
| 15:47.34 | Eulex | Idle0ne, checked the X log? have you edited your X config to add 1680x1050? |
| 15:47.38 | abrotman | it's such a way cooler name |
| 15:47.46 | anisX | abrotman: thanks..i will try now |
| 15:47.49 | abrotman | tarzeau: imagine .. `apt-get install angry-drunken-dwarves` !!! |
| 15:47.51 | tarzeau | abrotman: no, lapispuzzle.app is teh GNUSTEP! |
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| 15:48.02 | dvm1981 | MyWay: I not know an sollution to it. But that file are printed like it writed in take an example of an internet HTML file: he pring <html><head><title>fake</tile> |
| 15:48.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'd prefer nice-drunken-lesbians |
| 15:48.08 | Coweater | MyWay: it's trying to use the printer as a postscript device, i've never done non-postscript printers on *nix though so i'm no help |
| 15:48.10 | dvm1981 | s/pring/print |
| 15:48.12 | abrotman | tarzeau: erm .. ok |
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| 15:48.50 | MyWay | ah |
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| 15:49.35 | MyWay | Can it be because i don't installed drivers for my printer? |
| 15:49.39 | anisX | abrotman: where can i find the mirros for /sources.list ? |
| 15:49.40 | MyWay | I Can't find it :O |
| 15:49.51 | wishie | anisX: apt-setup will let you choose |
| 15:49.54 | abrotman | !mirrors |
| 15:49.54 | dpkg | well, debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 15:50.12 | anisX | stable |
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| 15:50.13 | anisX | ups |
| 15:50.57 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 15:51.25 | tarzeau | abrotman: trying stenhal... |
| 15:51.59 | abrotman | ok |
| 15:52.01 | tarzeau | abrotman: tried #themanaworld yet? |
| 15:52.05 | abrotman | nope |
| 15:52.21 | tarzeau | abrotman: or this one? http://taspring.clan-sy.com/screenshots.php |
| 15:52.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: looks much like total annihilation, know that? |
| 15:52.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: i miss very much something like wipeout3 (or 2, or 1) |
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| 15:53.05 | abrotman | tarzeau: i tried the taspring .. couldn't get it to work .. TA is my favorite RTS of all time |
| 15:53.11 | knoppers | i installed the j2sdk and now i want to enable the java root in my path variable |
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| 15:53.17 | knoppers | hi, i had set the path in my .bash_profile, but the path didn't change |
| 15:53.27 | amang | Hi all,i have a onboard soundcard(realtek alc850) and my debian can't drive it,when i type '#modinfo soundcore' ,it shows the right infomation of the soundcard,how can i make it work plz? |
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| 15:53.39 | fireba11 | knoppers: you need to re-login for that to apply |
| 15:53.40 | tarzeau | lilo: please can you fix this? 16:50 [gnu] -!- Cannot join to channel #taspring (You have joined to too many channels) |
| 15:53.46 | anisX | abrotman: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/L0zIBV41.html |
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| 15:53.48 | knoppers | fireball i did |
| 15:53.51 | tarzeau | abrotman: i so hate this freenode uber1337 bullshit limit |
| 15:53.56 | anisX | that is my current mirror , can you tell me how to change it ? |
| 15:54.35 | knoppers | does ist matter, when i use x. is the path also set? |
| 15:54.46 | mbishop | how can I list packages installed with apt-get? |
| 15:54.55 | knoppers | dpkg -l |
| 15:54.59 | knoppers | aptitude |
| 15:55.01 | knoppers | apt-cache |
| 15:55.12 | anisX | abrotman: deb ftp.uk.debian.org stable ? |
| 15:55.45 | amang | someone plz help |
| 15:55.47 | Idle0ne | Eulex: no i have not edited anything |
| 15:55.52 | Idle0ne | where do i find the X log? |
| 15:55.55 | dvm1981 | mbishop: dpkg --get-selection > to_text_file.txt |
| 15:55.56 | Idle0ne | where would i add this resolution? |
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| 15:56.19 | Eulex | Idle0ne, xorg or xfree86? |
| 15:56.20 | abrotman | anisX: missing a d ? |
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| 15:56.29 | thingfish | Idle0ne: /var/log/ |
| 15:56.29 | Idle0ne | Eulex: no idea LOL debian's default :D |
| 15:56.38 | anisX | abrotman: not its was my mistake on rafb.net/paste sorry |
| 15:56.40 | Eulex | Idle0ne, stable or testing/unstable? |
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| 15:56.48 | Idle0ne | looks like xorg |
| 15:56.56 | Idle0ne | testing 64bit version |
| 15:57.00 | anisX | abrotman: delete all of them and just put ftp.uk.debian.org ? |
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| 15:57.33 | Eulex | Idle0ne, ok. /var/log/xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 15:57.36 | xored | normally iam apache2 proof, but somhow i cannot get apache2 running on my current debian sarge stabel intallation. Installation is done, after running the run script, no errors are found, but server does not run. I tried to start the apache2 server with errorLevel debug, but no errors. Any tips ? |
| 15:57.42 | anisX | abrotman: or i need to deb ftp.uk.debian.org ? |
| 15:57.44 | abrotman | use apt-setup |
| 15:57.52 | abrotman | comment all out .. use apt-setup |
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| 15:57.57 | Idle0ne | Eulex: i am looking at the log but not sure what i am looking for, however i did notice this |
| 15:58.05 | Idle0ne | (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1680x1050": 147.1 MHz, 65.2 kHz, 60.0 Hz |
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| 15:58.20 | anisX | abrotman: -bash: apt-setup: command not found |
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| 15:58.27 | Eulex | Idle0ne, hmm, ok. look for (WW) and (EE) |
| 15:58.36 | Idle0ne | and it looks like the resolutions is in the xorg.conf |
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| 15:58.38 | abrotman | are you root? |
| 15:58.50 | stew | probably on testing |
| 15:59.03 | wishie | i need to update my own debian mirror.. its about 8gb of data behind at the moment :P |
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| 15:59.10 | anisX | abrotman: yes |
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| 15:59.17 | abrotman | anisX: paste your sources again |
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| 15:59.17 | Idle0ne | WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. |
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| 15:59.24 | anisX | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.25 | anisX | uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root) |
| 15:59.41 | stew | anisX: there is no apt-setup on testing or unstable, man 5 sources.list |
| 15:59.42 | Eulex | Idle0ne, yes, that's exactly why you should look for (WW) and (EE). |
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| 15:59.58 | idefx | Hello, what should I do, I run debian unstable, and I have no "/usr/X11R6/ |
| 16:00.01 | idefx | sorry |
| 16:00.09 | idefx | i just hit enter ;) |
| 16:00.23 | Eulex | idefx, well, is xorg installed? |
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| 16:00.29 | anisX | abrotman: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/558igr97.html |
| 16:00.29 | |cronic| | Does anyone know how major ISP's like RR and such have the ability to let user's make sub-email accounts? |
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| 16:00.38 | |cronic| | What tool they would use or something like that? |
| 16:00.41 | idefx | Hello, what should I do, I run debian unstable, and I have no "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb" |
| 16:00.42 | Idle0ne | Eulex: EE has errors |
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| 16:00.49 | abrotman | anisX: and `apt-get update` yields what error ? |
| 16:00.58 | Idle0ne | err WW |
| 16:00.59 | Idle0ne | even |
| 16:01.00 | Idle0ne | (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. |
| 16:01.00 | Idle0ne | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.06 | idefx | eulex: My question wasn't complete |
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| 16:01.17 | anisX | abrotman: wait |
| 16:01.19 | Idle0ne | and same error for /fonts/CID |
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| 16:01.29 | Eulex | idefx, ah, I see. |
| 16:01.41 | Idle0ne | nothing found for (EE) except the line shown above |
| 16:01.48 | Eulex | Idle0ne, those aren't errors, just warnings. and they don't matter in this situation. |
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| 16:01.51 | stew | !apt-setup is also no longer available in testing/unstable since base-config was removed, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg00199.html |
| 16:01.52 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 16:02.13 | Eulex | Idle0ne, could you try using the nv driver instead of the nvidia driver? |
| 16:02.17 | Idle0ne | nothing else found in the Xorg.0.log then |
| 16:02.27 | Idle0ne | Eulex: sure if you could help me get that installed :D |
| 16:02.34 | Idle0ne | or tell me what i need to change to use it |
| 16:02.35 | Eulex | Idle0ne, it's included in X. |
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| 16:02.55 | abrotman | tarzeau: package apt-setup! |
| 16:03.01 | |cronic| | Does anyone know any decent email servers out there which can allow users to create a set number of accounts under their primary account? |
| 16:03.13 | Eulex | Idle0ne, just change Driver "nvidia" or similar to Driver "nv" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 16:03.23 | bbrazil | |cronic|: most support cronic+whaterver@domain |
| 16:03.45 | Idle0ne | ok did that, started X get the same results |
| 16:03.56 | Idle0ne | grey bars but i can right click and choose exit from TWM |
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| 16:04.01 | |cronic| | bbrazil" Not sure I follow. |
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| 16:04.20 | anisX | abrotman: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/IlN7pz83.html |
| 16:04.22 | bbrazil | |cronic|: what exactly do you want to do? |
| 16:04.23 | anisX | there |
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| 16:04.36 | abrotman | !e2fsprogs loop |
| 16:04.36 | dpkg | from memory, e2fsprogs loop is you are running packages which are older than the current debian stable and are trying to upgrade to debian testing which isn't supported, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "testing" or "etch" or "unstable" with "stable" then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; then if you still want testing, edit sources.list again, and change stable to testing and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 16:04.43 | idefx | Does anyone know which package contains files uses for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb ?? |
| 16:04.44 | abrotman | anisX: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 16:04.49 | Eulex | Idle0ne, ah. that means that you haven't got any desktop environment or desktop environment installed but twm. I assumed you were talking about some display problem. |
| 16:04.50 | |cronic| | bbrazil: I would like user - Joe, to be able to create 5 sub accounts (5 other emails) under his main account. |
| 16:05.02 | Idle0ne | yes Eulex |
| 16:05.07 | bbrazil | |cronic|: define 'under' |
| 16:05.08 | Idle0ne | display just has Grey lines vertical |
| 16:05.20 | Eulex | s/desktop environment or desktop environment/desktop environment or window manager/ |
| 16:05.20 | Idle0ne | is that normal for TWM? |
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| 16:05.26 | Idle0ne | i have never used that before |
| 16:05.28 | anisX | abrotman: but the mirrors from lycos , this is root which i bought from lycos hosting |
| 16:05.30 | Idle0ne | always used KDE |
| 16:05.46 | Eulex | Idle0ne, yes. when you haven't set any background at all you just get the default X background, which looks like that. |
| 16:05.54 | abrotman | anisX: and that means you can't do what the factoid says? |
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| 16:06.12 | anisX | abrotman: ok trying |
| 16:06.17 | greench | bye all :) |
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| 16:06.28 | Idle0ne | ah Eulex ok |
| 16:06.35 | Idle0ne | is it hard to install kde with apt-get? |
| 16:06.42 | |cronic| | bbrazil: I would like them all to associate with his main login account. However I would like him to have control over those sub accounts he creates |
| 16:07.02 | Eulex | Idle0ne, no. just apt-get install kde. |
| 16:07.08 | |cronic| | bbrazil: I would like each user who is created on our email server to be able to make 5 other email addresses under the said domain. |
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| 16:07.23 | |cronic| | Like John, Mary, Joe, Alex @whatever.com |
| 16:07.24 | bbrazil | |cronic|: ah - per domain, not per user |
| 16:07.29 | Idle0ne | broken packages? |
| 16:07.31 | |cronic| | no per user. |
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| 16:07.52 | Idle0ne | is the error i get |
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| 16:08.06 | Eulex | Idle0ne, seems like they're still a little broken then. install all packages that kde depends on except those it can't find. |
| 16:08.14 | Estes2 | Hi everyone :) I have a php paage that sometimes takes around 4 _minutes_ to be retrieved and at times, 4 seconds, investigating, i found that even if the page is long to retrieve, the page is generated by php in around 3-4 seconds, So i think it must be a routing issue, i use keepalived and my directors are also real servers, might be some routing issue, the cpu load on servers isn't high... anyone would have some suggestion ? |
| 16:08.18 | bbrazil | |cronic|: with minor work both exim and postix can direct joe+1@ joe+2@ etc. all to joe@ |
| 16:08.23 | Estes2 | I use LVS-NAT |
| 16:08.29 | Idle0ne | ok |
| 16:08.50 | Idle0ne | how do i know which those are? |
| 16:09.01 | Idle0ne | cant i make apt just install all deps? |
| 16:09.02 | Idle0ne | as well |
| 16:09.25 | Eulex | Idle0ne, apt-cache show kde. |
| 16:09.27 | abrotman | what? |
| 16:09.37 | anisX | abrotman: i got blue screen here , its asked me Dialog / Redline or Gnome |
| 16:09.45 | Idle0ne | Eulex: is there a way to make apt install them all with 1 command? |
| 16:09.52 | abrotman | choose dialog .. it's the easiest |
| 16:09.53 | anisX | abrotman: just dialog ? i sshing to this server though |
| 16:10.04 | abrotman | that's better than gnome eh ? |
| 16:10.12 | |cronic| | bbrazil: Yes, but I don't want their email to all go into the same box. |
| 16:10.16 | anisX | abrotman: i;m kde die hard fan ;p |
| 16:10.24 | Eulex | Idle0ne, that's what it tries. and fails. because all dependencies aren't available. |
| 16:10.25 | |cronic| | bbrazil: I want them to all be serpeate email addresses, and accounts. |
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| 16:10.45 | Idle0ne | hmm |
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| 16:10.53 | Idle0ne | not sure why they are not available :( |
| 16:11.04 | abrotman | anisX: that's not the point .. it's for when dpkg asks you questions .. be hard to display those questions in gnome over ssh eh ? |
| 16:11.05 | Eulex | Idle0ne, that said, just copy the names of all dependencies into an apt-get command except those it can't find like this: apt-get install foo bar baz |
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| 16:11.12 | nvz | LoRez: wb |
| 16:11.12 | abrotman | FFS .. i'm turning canadian! |
| 16:11.22 | nvz | not that you ever left |
| 16:11.32 | anisX | he he he |
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| 16:11.33 | bbrazil | |cronic|: I think you're looking for virtual users. You'll probably have to write a few scripts if you want users to be able to add them themselves |
| 16:11.42 | Idle0ne | Eulex: so this is a case where i need to go down the line and install all packages manually? |
| 16:11.43 | nvz | he keeps two nicks in here at least all the time |
| 16:12.01 | tamer | Hi! |
| 16:12.12 | abrotman | anisX: does it all work? |
| 16:12.15 | tamer | Does anybody know here how to initialize initscripts?! |
| 16:12.29 | anisX | Preparing to replace libc6 2.3.2.ds1-18 (using .../libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.deb) ... |
| 16:12.30 | anisX | Unpacking replacement libc6 ... |
| 16:12.32 | nvz | tamer: /etc/init.d/initscript start |
| 16:12.35 | Eulex | Idle0ne, no, just check the dependencies and apt-get them, except those it couldn't find. the kde package hasn't got that many dependencies. |
| 16:12.37 | anisX | abrotman: stop there..i dont know its proccessing or stuck |
| 16:12.40 | tamer | I have downloaded the firehol.sh initscript which has to be registered with the runlevels |
| 16:12.52 | anisX | abrotman: proccesing now |
| 16:12.52 | nvz | tamer: man update-rc.d |
| 16:12.55 | abrotman | anisX: takes a bit |
| 16:13.03 | nvz | tamer: drop it in /etc/init.d/ and make links with update-rc.d |
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| 16:13.06 | Eulex | anisX, top |
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| 16:13.22 | anisX | Eulex: thanksss |
| 16:13.37 | Eulex | anisX, yw :) |
| 16:13.41 | tamer | aha! |
| 16:14.00 | anisX | abrotman: so after this no problem to use apt-get such as apt-get install make or automake or gcc ? |
| 16:14.16 | abrotman | anisX: you then switch back to 'etch' and do whatever |
| 16:14.19 | Idle0ne | Eulex: issue is i try to get one of the deps, that inturn fails because that has deps it cannot find |
| 16:14.26 | Idle0ne | and down the line even more |
| 16:14.38 | Eulex | Idle0ne, then just skip that dependency. |
| 16:14.39 | wishie | Idle0ne: sounds like redhat :P |
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| 16:15.00 | tamer | Kann you tell me how to make links with update-rc.d ? |
| 16:15.03 | tamer | Can |
| 16:15.06 | tamer | sorry |
| 16:15.10 | anisX | abrotman: does this upgrade takes time ? 2 hour ? or just couple a min ? |
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| 16:15.41 | Eulex | Idle0ne, btw, to get a functional kde environment all you need is kde-core. then just add the stuff you want. |
| 16:15.41 | tamer | nvz: I don't know how to use this tool... |
| 16:15.41 | paq | in which package is "sgdefects"? |
| 16:15.41 | anisX | abrotman: or maybe i need to sleep first ? |
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| 16:15.58 | wishie | paq: tried packages.debian.org ? or is that still down |
| 16:16.03 | Idle0ne | ok Eulex |
| 16:16.19 | paq | wishie, its down :( |
| 16:16.25 | abrotman | anisX: not sure ... how many MB ? |
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| 16:16.33 | Eulex | Idle0ne, anyway, I gotta go. ask someone else if you need more help. |
| 16:16.33 | tamer | Does anybody knows here how to use "update-rc.d" ? |
| 16:16.39 | abrotman | tamer: man update-rc.d should be sufficient |
| 16:16.40 | Idle0ne | no matter what i try |
| 16:16.52 | Idle0ne | i tried to apt-get kde-core, says that it needs kdelibs, then that fails |
| 16:17.02 | Idle0ne | and so does kdebase |
| 16:17.04 | Ollie | Hello all |
| 16:17.13 | anisX | abrotman: Fetched 30.7MB in 11s (2642kB/s) |
| 16:17.21 | wishie | paq: you can use dpkg i believe.. -S or something |
| 16:17.33 | Ollie | Is there a way where I can view all the program that I have installed via apt-get e.g. a history? |
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| 16:17.45 | anisX | abrotman: just for 30.7 MB ? |
| 16:18.16 | torc | are there any AMD64 sarge 31r1 iso's available somewhere? cdimage seems to be holding 31r0a only. |
| 16:18.41 | azeem | anisX: try to leverage the knowledge of the rest of the channel as well |
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| 16:19.03 | michael117 | What file does tightvncserver use to setup the window manager it will launch when connected to? |
| 16:19.07 | wishie | fscking python |
| 16:19.09 | wishie | die |
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| 16:19.13 | anisX | errr azeem ? |
| 16:19.27 | azeem | huh? |
| 16:19.35 | wishie | michael117: doesnt it just connect to an active display ? not create a new one |
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| 16:19.39 | azeem | nobody else will help you if you address abrotman direclty |
| 16:19.46 | anisX | azeem: i'm calling abrotman , not you |
| 16:19.48 | tamer | sudo update-rc.d firehol.sh defaults |
| 16:19.48 | tamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.49 | azeem | and if he's not around, you're out of luck |
| 16:19.51 | anisX | oh ok noticed that thanks |
| 16:20.03 | anisX | azeem: sorry |
| 16:20.13 | tamer | But if i reboot the machine, I discover that the script hadn't been started in the runlevel |
| 16:20.14 | azeem | it was just a notice |
| 16:20.14 | undesktop | with apt-get update, I get: "W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010..." |
| 16:20.19 | undesktop | my apt-get is up to date |
| 16:20.26 | Ollie | Do I need to auth in order to talk in this channel? |
| 16:20.35 | azeem | Ollie: no |
| 16:20.36 | undesktop | (can't be this 2006 key issue or not?) |
| 16:20.44 | michael117 | wishie: Someone that was in here a few days ago helped me with one of the config's and had me put in exec gnome-session into one of the files. What files does tightvncserver use? |
| 16:20.56 | Ollie | ok |
| 16:20.57 | zinx | undesktop: the NO_PUBKEY is the 2006 key issue |
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| 16:21.07 | zinx | undesktop: the BADSIG is the mirror issue |
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| 16:21.21 | tamer | Do you know guys how to make the runlevel entries for a init script? |
| 16:21.27 | zinx | undesktop: /m dpkg 2006 key |
| 16:21.27 | dvm1981 | michael117: dpkg -L <pkg> |
| 16:21.32 | azeem | tamer: update-rc.d |
| 16:21.34 | VeVerka | what?? |
| 16:21.37 | wishie | michael117: well, i take it it'll be in /etc/ or in ~/.tightvnc/ or something |
| 16:21.37 | undesktop | zinx: the apt-get I use is the most recent from Debian unstable |
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| 16:21.54 | tamer | the script is inside /etc/init.d but in the runlevels /etc/rc5.d is no entry for that script. |
| 16:22.00 | amang | Hi,all.I have a onboard soundcard(ALC850) and now it can't work on my debian,anyone please help me?I'm going crazy... |
| 16:22.13 | michael117 | wishie: YES! THAT'S IT! It was the .tightvnc directory |
| 16:22.14 | tamer | sudo update-rc.d firehol.sh defaults |
| 16:22.15 | tamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.18 | tamer | azeem: I did |
| 16:22.27 | azeem | tamer: so what's the issue? |
| 16:22.55 | tamer | that he makes the symbolic links for the runlevels to start and stop for the runlevels with the script which is in /etc/init.d |
| 16:23.13 | tamer | in rc.0 is no entry, what explains me that he can't start the script. |
| 16:23.29 | azeem | what does runlevel 0 do? |
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| 16:23.40 | tamer | I mean, rc0.5 |
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| 16:23.44 | azeem | rc0.5? |
| 16:23.49 | tamer | rc0 is of course reboot, sorry. |
| 16:23.59 | azeem | what is runlevel 0.5? |
| 16:24.00 | tamer | rc6 halt |
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| 16:24.23 | sybariten | is there a command to see whats contained in a package like fileutils or coreutils? an apt-command i mean |
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| 16:25.34 | dvm1981 | sybariten: dpkg -L <pkg> ?? |
| 16:26.02 | abrotman | anisX: sorry |
| 16:26.12 | abrotman | anisX: that should take a bit .. depends on the packages mostly |
| 16:26.18 | dvm1981 | sybariten: It's for an package that are installed, i now, a bit to late, that you would mean an non-installed one. Right? |
| 16:26.26 | sybariten | dvm1981: thank you! |
| 16:26.32 | sybariten | oops, yes, noninstalled :) |
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| 16:27.08 | dvm1981 | ( |
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| 16:28.06 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 16:28.26 | itachi-uo | hello all |
| 16:28.44 | sybariten | w00t |
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| 16:29.47 | bureado | Greetings everyone. Is anything wrong going on with perl and perl-base in Sarge? I'm getting broken loops in aptitude :) |
| 16:30.14 | azeem | bureado: can you post the error message to a pastebin, please? |
| 16:30.16 | azeem | !paster |
| 16:30.16 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 16:30.32 | anisX | abrotman: no need to sorry , i'm the one who is sorry :) |
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| 16:31.09 | anisX | abrotman: i changed source list to etch , then apt-get install make , "couldnt find package make" and i changed back to 'stable' , now everthing is OK |
| 16:31.18 | itachi-uo | dpkg how to configure blootbot |
| 16:31.31 | azeem | itachi-uo: please /msg the bot |
| 16:31.37 | azeem | (or read the documentation, I guess) |
| 16:31.48 | anisX | E: Package pine has no installation candidate |
| 16:31.52 | itachi-uo | azeem me tired of read documentation |
| 16:31.53 | stew | itachi-uo: edit the files in files/ |
| 16:31.59 | anisX | first problem after configure the apt-get :/ |
| 16:32.05 | Coweater | anisX: you have to apt-get update if you change your sources.list |
| 16:32.05 | abrotman | anisX: chagne it back to etch.. run apt-get update ; apt-get install build-essential |
| 16:32.06 | stew | anisX: pine isn't in debian becuase its non-free |
| 16:32.07 | azeem | anisX: pine isn't available |
| 16:32.08 | itachi-uo | stew yes i have running all ready |
| 16:32.23 | chrysopa | hid3, when I put this in my dhcpd.conf: subnet 200.18.146.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {, my dhcp server work, but the correct netmask is 255.255.255.192, but with this value it dont work. Why? |
| 16:32.26 | amang | Hi,all.I have a onboard soundcard(ALC850) and now it can't work on my debian,i'v try many times but it just can't work!any help will be appreciate! |
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| 16:32.37 | itachi-uo | stew but i dont know how to add the database files to the boot for example |
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| 16:32.49 | anisX | wow..i love this channel! :DDDDDD |
| 16:32.56 | chrysopa | I'm not a network admin, just a user that need to configure a dhcp to use with ltsp |
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| 16:32.58 | itachi-uo | stew my bot dont showme debian files as dpkg here |
| 16:33.10 | chrysopa | Anybody can help-me? |
| 16:33.16 | itachi-uo | ????? |
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| 16:33.28 | anisX | what is different between stable and etch ? |
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| 16:33.33 | cahoot | amang: using alsa? alsaconf of no use? |
| 16:33.38 | Sonny | wheres the startup file of gnome? |
| 16:33.53 | thingfish | !tell anisX about releases |
| 16:33.57 | stew | itachi-uo: iirc you need to add +debian or something to blootbot.chan |
| 16:34.05 | amang | cahoot:i can't complie it on my debian |
| 16:34.17 | anisX | thanks thingfish :)) |
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| 16:34.20 | amang | many errors |
| 16:34.21 | cahoot | amang: no need compile |
| 16:34.25 | anisX | hmm... |
| 16:34.27 | itachi-uo | stew really ? how can i do that ? |
| 16:34.29 | thingfish | sure, anisX. |
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| 16:34.51 | anisX | Starting ident daemon: oidentd , how to restart/stop/start the services ? |
| 16:35.07 | anisX | */etc/init.d/oident restart ? |
| 16:35.13 | stew | itachi-uo: ask in #debian-bots |
| 16:35.14 | thingfish | that would work |
| 16:35.36 | itachi-uo | stew im in there :) |
| 16:35.43 | itachi-uo | stew anyway thanks for answer me |
| 16:35.43 | thingfish | anisX: look in /etc/init.d for the exact name. |
| 16:35.51 | thingfish | aack /etc/init.d/ |
| 16:35.59 | thingfish | oh well whatever. |
| 16:36.02 | thingfish | :/ |
| 16:36.23 | anisX | ok i hope this is last question , can i do yum update kernel ? |
| 16:36.28 | thingfish | no |
| 16:36.34 | thingfish | no yum in Debian. |
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| 16:36.38 | anisX | oh sorry! |
| 16:36.39 | anisX | :!! |
| 16:36.42 | amang | when i make install asla ,it says there is no /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/include/linux/version.h exist |
| 16:36.44 | anisX | apt-get update kernel |
| 16:36.54 | thingfish | no |
| 16:36.59 | thingfish | anisX: man apt-get |
| 16:37.03 | amang | alsa-driver- |
| 16:37.06 | anisX | thingfish: i'm using fedora and debian at the same time..lil bit confused..sorry |
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| 16:37.26 | thingfish | anisX: people new to linux often appreciate synaptic. |
| 16:37.42 | anisX | thingfish: i think synaptic is the gui-based..correct ? |
| 16:37.45 | thingfish | yes |
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| 16:38.04 | anisX | thingfish: unfortunately im connection to the server via ssh , no gui |
| 16:38.12 | SuperNet | Hey guys, How do I set the root pw for mysql? I never set one when i installed it and now i dont know what it is |
| 16:38.22 | thingfish | oh, no problem, anisX - use either apt-get or aptitude. |
| 16:38.39 | anisX | thanks again thingfish :)))) |
| 16:38.42 | amang | o thank you,i will try |
| 16:38.46 | SuperNet | does anyoe know? |
| 16:38.51 | anisX | thingfish: ah maybe i should try apt-get install kernel ? |
| 16:38.57 | thingfish | anisX: apt-cache search kernel-image (linux-image if you're using other than sarge), pick one, apt-get install it. |
| 16:39.08 | petemc | SuperNet: /usr/share/doc/mysql-common/README.Debian |
| 16:39.58 | petemc | SuperNet: actually, make that mysql-server |
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| 16:40.17 | dvm1981 | sybariten: Are you still there? |
| 16:40.17 | ozgur | hi |
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| 16:40.38 | anisX | thingfish: i have something for , need your suggestion though |
| 16:40.48 | anisX | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/rjSFzb85.html |
| 16:40.53 | dvm1981 | sybariten: I have found an method, if you have not find an trick 'dpkg-deb -c skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb' |
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| 16:41.21 | thingfish | anisX: do you know what kind of a cpu your system has? |
| 16:41.24 | dvm1981 | Someone know an better one ^^ |
| 16:41.37 | anisX | thingfish: cat /proc/info ? |
| 16:41.51 | TigerTjader | i'm having problems trying to make a joystick work |
| 16:42.00 | TigerTjader | jstest says "Segmentation Fault" |
| 16:42.05 | dvm1981 | Because on that method, i need to download the package, is there an method to view the content of an deb without downloading it? |
| 16:42.10 | Red_Cloud | I have just upgraded from sarge to etch. Whenever I boot, the choice of OS listed in Grub shows two different kernels: 2.6.15-1-486 and 2.4.27-2-386. The 2.6.15-1-486 is a patch to allow a graphical boot. According to the information in Synaptic I do not have it installed but there it is listed in Grub at boot.If I boot into that kernel, all is well and everything works. If I boot into 2.4.27-2-386 everything is not so shiny: my PS2 key |
| 16:42.10 | Red_Cloud | does not work. Advice? |
| 16:42.17 | anisX | thingfish: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family 1266MHz |
| 16:42.22 | valdyn | TigerTjader: dont use jstest then |
| 16:42.31 | TigerTjader | and I should use what? |
| 16:42.44 | thingfish | anisX: then get the 2.6.8-2-686 one. |
| 16:42.59 | thingfish | anisX: you were wanting a 2.6 kernel, right? |
| 16:43.01 | valdyn | TigerTjader: some game or plain : 'cat /dev/js0' if you hit buttons or move your stick around it should at least spit out garbage |
| 16:43.23 | anisX | thingfish: any kernel sir , to make the box more secure |
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| 16:43.42 | thingfish | haha I'm no "sir" |
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| 16:43.48 | anisX | thingfish: 2.6.11.9-vs2.0-rc1-node , that is m current kernel |
| 16:43.52 | anisX | thingfish: ok sorry again... |
| 16:43.56 | anisX | *my |
| 16:44.03 | thingfish | anisX: you using etch? |
| 16:44.12 | die-Sel | any1 know wats hyperion irc server saoftware site url is? google is having an off day for me :( |
| 16:44.32 | vibey | i had bitchx open and lost my ssh connection.. i still see it running .. is there a way to reattach to it? |
| 16:44.36 | anisX | thingfish: stable* |
| 16:44.41 | valdyn | !google hyperion irc server |
| 16:44.44 | Sonny | hi, why does everytime that I boot my debian (gnome) there appears 2 terminals windows loaded? |
| 16:44.48 | thingfish | anisX: then how did you get a 2.6.11 kernel on it? |
| 16:44.49 | dpkg | Google says hyperion irc server is at http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml or http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml or http://freenode.net/NOIDPREFIX.shtml or http://freenode.net/hyperion.shtml or http://freenode.net/faq.shtml |
| 16:45.04 | anisX | thingfish: its from lycos , this server from lycos |
| 16:45.05 | die-Sel | been to all them lol |
| 16:45.12 | valdyn | !google hyperion irc server home |
| 16:45.16 | anisX | thingfish: does 2.6.11 is good enough ? |
| 16:45.21 | dpkg | Google says hyperion irc server home is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml or http://freenode.net/policy.shtml or http://freenode.net/group_contact_form.shtml or http://freenode.net/acknowledgements.shtml or http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2793 |
| 16:45.26 | thingfish | thingfish: if you're using sarge, and you want 2.6.15, you can try backport.org's kernel. |
| 16:45.36 | thingfish | aack I mean anisX |
| 16:45.41 | anisX | hihi |
| 16:45.45 | anisX | wake up! ;p |
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| 16:46.09 | anisX | thingfish: how if i just stick with this 2.6.11 ? |
| 16:46.15 | anisX | thingfish: secure enough ? |
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| 16:46.19 | dvm1981 | Tiens, with kopete we can go on irc, waw |
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| 16:46.58 | valdyn | Sonny: because you saved your session with those windows open |
| 16:46.59 | thingfish | anisX: one assumes the newer the kernel, the more security fixes it has. But that could be a mistaken assumption on my part. |
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| 16:47.29 | thingfish | anisX: I thought you were having trouble getting a new kernel. |
| 16:47.31 | anisX | thingfish: what is the besy to know my box is secure enough or not ? |
| 16:47.33 | abrotman | it could introduce a doozie |
| 16:47.35 | valdyn | thingfish: yea its not true |
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| 16:47.45 | thingfish | anisX: I'm no security guru. |
| 16:47.48 | rem_ | . |
| 16:47.50 | anisX | thingfish: yeah im scared , before this im using RH9 and i got hacked :/ |
| 16:48.00 | anisX | thingfish: just your suggestion Mr thingfish |
| 16:48.08 | abrotman | were you using the fedora security backports? |
| 16:48.10 | anisX | i mean , i just need your suggestion |
| 16:48.32 | anisX | that is why im changing to debian sarge |
| 16:48.40 | thingfish | valdyn: it isn't true? not surprising - I mean I knew they'd have *new* security issues, but I'd assumed older issues would've been fixed. |
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| 16:48.52 | gahan | !gpfs |
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| 16:49.17 | anisX | maybe quicktables will help me then ? |
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| 16:49.28 | Sonny | vladyn, how can I take them out? |
| 16:49.39 | valdyn | thingfish: it all depends on where changes happen, if, for example a known 'secure' but otherwise broken subsystem gets replaced by something rather new, there's obviously no security progress |
| 16:49.58 | thingfish | yeah, I can see that. |
| 16:49.58 | k31th | Wats the cmd to tar a dir keeping file permissions ? |
| 16:50.02 | valdyn | Sonny: close them, run gnome-session-save |
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| 16:50.38 | valdyn | k31th: man tar |
| 16:51.36 | valdyn | anisX: you should probably stick to the standard sarge kernel ( which is based on 2.6.8 ) |
| 16:51.43 | thingfish | anisX: ask again sometime about how to harden your system. I'm just a lowly desktop user on dialup. :) |
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| 16:51.47 | Red_Cloud | I have just upgraded from sarge to etch. Whenever I boot, the choice of OS listed in Grub shows two different kernels: 2.6.15-1-486 and 2.4.27-2-386. According to the information in Synaptic I do not have it installed but there it is listed in Grub at boot.If I boot into that kernel, all is well and everything works. If I boot into 2.4.27-2-386 everything is not so shiny: my PS2 keyboard does not work. Advice? |
| 16:51.51 | Sonny | valdyn, close eveythng? |
| 16:52.00 | anisX | wheee |
| 16:52.03 | anisX | i love this channel! |
| 16:52.04 | anisX | :D |
| 16:52.05 | valdyn | Sonny: close whatever you want |
| 16:52.06 | lamp_ | i have a problem with debian testing, i don't have /dev/dsp, so i can"t start esd. I can play sounds with xmms using the alsa plugin so the driver is not the problem |
| 16:52.24 | thingfish | anisX: come back on Sunday. |
| 16:52.28 | valdyn | lamp_: esd is a piece of trash, dont use it |
| 16:52.31 | anisX | oh i forgot the command how to execute file.sh |
| 16:52.37 | anisX | thingfish: i will :) |
| 16:52.58 | thingfish | anisX: ./filename, if it's executable. |
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| 16:53.03 | lamp_ | valdyn, i need /dev/dsp also for vmware |
| 16:53.15 | valdyn | lamp_: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
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| 16:53.41 | anisX | Installation ready. |
| 16:53.42 | thingfish | man, I don't live too far from where those tornados hit last night - maybe 50 miles. |
| 16:53.42 | anisX | See /usr/local/rkhunter/lib/rkhunter/docs for more information. Run 'rkhunter' (/usr/local/bin/rkhunter) |
| 16:53.55 | lamp_ | valdyn, thanks |
| 16:53.59 | Leithal | hey guys, do you know if LinuxThreads is included within the amd64 builds for sid? |
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| 16:54.24 | azeem | Leithal: what exactly do you mean? |
| 16:54.34 | valdyn | lamp_: esd also can use alsa natively, ( via libesd-alsa0 or somesuch |
| 16:54.42 | valdyn | Leithal: sure |
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| 16:55.08 | Leithal | I would like to "export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.0" on sid, and it allows it, but then fails when calling MySQL |
| 16:55.28 | Azar | sarge installer comes with alsa, or one have to install it afterwards? |
| 16:55.28 | azeem | how does it fail? |
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| 16:55.43 | thingfish | Azar: I always have to install alsa-base post-install. |
| 16:55.48 | valdyn | Leithal: why are you setting that on an amd64 system which probably runs a 2.6.x kernel? |
| 16:55.54 | Azar | thank you thingfish |
| 16:55.57 | Leithal | sun2:/usr/local/mysql# ./start |
| 16:55.57 | Leithal | sun2:/usr/local/mysql# /usr/local/mysql/bin/my_print_defaults: error |
| 16:55.57 | Leithal | while loading shared libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared |
| 16:55.57 | Leithal | object file: No such file or directory |
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| 16:56.02 | thingfish | Azar: that is, if I use tasksel. |
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| 16:56.12 | Leithal | sorry :) |
| 16:56.30 | valdyn | Leithal: now, why dont you use the mysql debian package? |
| 16:56.36 | Azar | thingfish: I allways do it separately , after installation |
| 16:56.38 | Sonny | do you know an app like vmware but with gpl license? |
| 16:56.45 | Leithal | valdyn: Because I work for MySQL? ;) |
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| 16:56.48 | petemc | Sonny: qemu |
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| 16:57.05 | plb | hrm i setup a 32bit chroot according to the alioth page but when i start something outside the chroot i get Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 16:57.09 | Sonny | petemc: does it have the same of vmware? |
| 16:57.15 | valdyn | Leithal: 'file /usr/local/mysql/bin/my_print_defaults' |
| 16:57.33 | petemc | Sonny: it doesnt have the hardware support vmware does, so no usb |
| 16:57.40 | Leithal | valdyn: it's a 64 bit binary, it will be dynamically linked |
| 16:57.58 | valdyn | !find libpthread.so.0 sarge |
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| 16:58.01 | valdyn | !find libpthread.so sarge |
| 16:58.02 | tang0m | I'm installing mondorescue with apt-get. It wants to remove libreadline4 and install libreadline5. I guess that's fine, but it also wants to remove ntp-server, ntp-simple and ntp itself. packages.debian.org is down at the moment, so i'm wondering whether anyone here has come across this. Is this an issue for the ntp maintainters or have I missed something |
| 16:58.13 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libpthread.so.0' (5 of 6): (/usr/lib/debug/libpthread.so.0) in libdevel/libc6-dbg ;; (/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0) in libs/libc6-i686 ;; (/usr/lib64/debug/libpthread.so.0) in libdevel/amd64-libs-dev ;; (/lib/libpthread.so.0, /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0) in base/libc6 ;; (/usr/i386-uclibc-linux/lib/libpthread.so.0) in libs/libuclibc0. |
| 16:58.13 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libpthread.so' (6 of 10): (/usr/lib/libpthread.so) in libdevel/libc6-dev ;; (/usr/lib/diet/lib/libpthread.so) in libs/dietlibc ;; (/usr/lib/debug/libpthread.so.0) in libdevel/libc6-dbg ;; (/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0) in libs/libc6-i686 ;; (/usr/lib/newlib/libpthread.so) in libdevel/libnewlib-dev ;; (/lib/libpthread.so.0, /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0) in base/libc6. |
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| 16:58.44 | peej | I'm thinking of getting an sd storage-based digital camera. Is sd storage fine with linux? Is there a a brand I should stick to? |
| 16:58.46 | Sonny | petemc: it seems that the last version does, check the web |
| 16:59.16 | petemc | Sonny: well, all good then |
| 16:59.17 | dvm1981 | Sonny: And you need kqemu to activate the acceleration part. |
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| 16:59.40 | azeem | Leithal: you could ask in #debian-amd64 |
| 16:59.54 | peej | what on earth does the "secure" mean in sd? |
| 16:59.55 | Leithal | hmm, I'll actually get them to try 2.4.1 as well, may have a wrong kernel version with 2.4.0 |
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| 17:00.13 | anarcat | ugh. |
| 17:00.15 | dvm1981 | Sonny: Like the deb package are not setup with the support of kqemu, you need to install it from source and add support kqemu |
| 17:00.23 | azeem | Leithal: are you using a 2.4 kernel? |
| 17:00.23 | anarcat | i exploded my laptop by upgrading to etch |
| 17:00.25 | Leithal | thanks for the pointers |
| 17:00.28 | anarcat | exploded as in broke my X |
| 17:00.34 | anarcat | my mouse is not detected anymore |
| 17:00.41 | Leithal | azeem: it's not me with the machine, I'm simply chasing info :) |
| 17:00.48 | Leithal | but it's a debian sid install |
| 17:00.50 | Sonny | I'll drop all my ntfs patitions and use my winbug apps from qemu so.... University forces me to use winbug :( |
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| 17:01.01 | anarcat | this is an old thinkpad with a ps2 builtin mouse, i also have a external usb mouse plugged in |
| 17:01.02 | dvm1981 | Sonny: For kqemu, you need to get it of the web, no apt for it |
| 17:01.08 | anisX | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.09 | anisX | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.11 | anarcat | mdetect doesn't output anything anymore |
| 17:01.11 | anisX | hoho |
| 17:01.12 | anisX | what is that ? |
| 17:01.13 | valdyn | Leithal: no idea why you can miss /lib/libpthread.so.0 or why your linker is broken |
| 17:01.28 | anisX | can anyone tell me ? permit root login ? |
| 17:01.28 | Leithal | valdyn: yea it's weird |
| 17:01.37 | azeem | anisX: what are you doing? |
| 17:01.37 | Sonny | dvm1981: :(, I dont like when theres no the deb pkg |
| 17:01.45 | Leithal | I assume LT is still included in all latest debian installs right? |
| 17:01.47 | anisX | azeem: rkhunter |
| 17:01.48 | valdyn | Leithal: does the file exist? |
| 17:01.51 | Leithal | yeop |
| 17:02.03 | anisX | azeem: http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html |
| 17:02.05 | azeem | Leithal: NTPL is used libc6-686 |
| 17:02.11 | azeem | Leithal: and dunno, maybe on amd64 by default |
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| 17:02.22 | dvm1981 | Sonny: For qemu yes, for kqemu not. Because some restriction on the licence ... And Debian are very strict on it, free |
| 17:02.23 | anisX | Application scan |
| 17:02.24 | anisX | Vulnerable applications: 1 |
| 17:02.28 | anarcat | finally, i'm trying to install the 2.6.15 kernel and it's whining when trying to install the initramfs-tools dependency |
| 17:02.29 | valdyn | azeem: its in libc6 on debian/amd64 |
| 17:02.30 | anisX | ok that is scaring me enough :S |
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| 17:02.35 | abrotman | so turn it off |
| 17:02.36 | azeem | valdyn: NPTL? |
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| 17:02.41 | Leithal | yea by default it was using NPTL 2.3.6 |
| 17:03.01 | anarcat | initramfs-tools requires at least 2.6.12 |
| 17:03.11 | dvm1981 | Sonny: qemu without kqemu are very slow, you need kqemu, personal advieses |
| 17:03.14 | anarcat | but i can't install linux-image 2.6.15 because it depends on initramfs-tools |
| 17:03.15 | Sonny | I have 3 partitions: 1st=ntfs, 2nd=ntfs, 3rd=ext3 and 4th=LVM all of the primarys, If I want to delete the ntfs's, do I have to install my system again? |
| 17:03.30 | valdyn | azeem: whatever, since its a linker error |
| 17:03.33 | Sonny | Sorry I meant 4 partitions |
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| 17:03.52 | peej | what on earth does the "secure" mean in sd? Are they supposed to be unreadable in free systems ? |
| 17:04.03 | valdyn | Leithal: try running ldconfig if you havent, try apt-get install --reinstall libc6 |
| 17:04.03 | azeem | Leithal: I think a libc package either has LT or NTPL, but not both |
| 17:04.08 | anarcat | hum. |
| 17:04.16 | anarcat | so anyone got any idea how I can install linux-image? |
| 17:04.19 | anisX | abrotman: turn it off..that is for me ? |
| 17:04.36 | azeem | anisX: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 17:04.44 | anisX | ok ok |
| 17:04.45 | valdyn | Leithal: if that doesnt fix it your binary is doing linker tricks, i cant fix that |
| 17:04.49 | abrotman | anisX: yes |
| 17:04.51 | anisX | azeem: could you look this files ? |
| 17:04.55 | azeem | anisX: ? |
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| 17:05.03 | Leithal | valdyn / azeem, thanks for the pointers, I'll try to see if I can sort them out |
| 17:05.13 | Leithal | I'll let you know when I get to the bottom of it, if you're interested |
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| 17:05.30 | valdyn | Leithal: i'd like to know, ya |
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| 17:05.43 | anisX | azeem: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Mrxlt750.html |
| 17:06.16 | azeem | anisX: I have no idea what that means |
| 17:06.19 | valdyn | anarcat: why do you think that linux-image depends on initramfs-tools? |
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| 17:07.51 | azeem | anisX: so if you login as root, why do you want to disallow it? |
| 17:07.52 | anisX | azeem: oh , then how to login as root ? |
| 17:07.54 | azeem | anisX: eh, you can't |
| 17:08.01 | azeem | anisX: you will have to make up your mind |
| 17:08.02 | valdyn | anarcat: depends on your hardware, try it |
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| 17:08.14 | azeem | anisX: you can login as a regular user though, and become root via su or sudo |
| 17:08.22 | valdyn | anarcat: you dont need those tools to run an installed kernel either way, only for installing it |
| 17:08.23 | azeem | once you configured that, of course |
| 17:08.30 | anarcat | valdyn, right |
| 17:08.40 | anisX | azeem: if i turn it off , i just can login as user and if i want to use root , just su ? |
| 17:08.47 | Sonny | I have 4 partitions: 1st=ntfs, 2nd=ntfs, 3rd=ext3 and 4th=LVM all of them primarys, If I want to delete the ntfs's (just to have a pure ext3 filesystem), do I have to install my system again? |
| 17:09.09 | azeem | anisX: that's what I just said |
| 17:09.12 | valdyn | Sonny: no |
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| 17:09.17 | anisX | yes noticed that Azar |
| 17:09.19 | anarcat | worst thing is that I went through all this on my workstation eons ago |
| 17:09.23 | anisX | yes noticed that *azeem |
| 17:09.26 | cahoot | anisX: you'll also probably want to use passphrase not passwd |
| 17:09.27 | anarcat | but i forgot how to fix it |
| 17:09.37 | anarcat | there was also a bug filed at this point |
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| 17:09.41 | anisX | azeem: which is good ? turn it off or on ? |
| 17:09.49 | azeem | anisX: it's YOUR choice |
| 17:09.55 | azeem | make a decision |
| 17:10.06 | anisX | azeem: ok i will let it ON for a while |
| 17:10.36 | petemc | anarcat: i was able to upgrade from 2.4 to 2.6.15 using apt-get install initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6.15 |
| 17:10.52 | peej | anyone have a digital camera with sd storage? does it work with debian? |
| 17:11.04 | anarcat | petemc, ah, but i'm already on 2.6 |
| 17:11.06 | anarcat | 2.6.8 |
| 17:11.16 | anarcat | yaird seems to work |
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| 17:11.22 | anarcat | i could've sworn i tried this before |
| 17:11.23 | anarcat | anyways |
| 17:11.24 | anisX | i owe this channel something! |
| 17:11.27 | anisX | thanksssssssssssss!!!! |
| 17:11.51 | anarcat | cool... now i guess i shold reboot to see if the mouse is better detected |
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| 17:12.00 | valdyn | anarcat: yaird is based on h/w detection, done when you instal the kernel, initramfs-tools on config file that are created when you install debian |
| 17:12.07 | Sonny | valdyn: I dont know how to do that |
| 17:12.15 | valdyn | Sonny: how to do what? |
| 17:12.20 | anarcat | i suspect it wasn't detected because udev couldn't load because i had an old kernel |
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| 17:12.25 | Sonny | valdyn: just delete the partitions with qtparted? |
| 17:12.31 | anarcat | valdyn, "config files that are created when you install debian??" |
| 17:12.36 | anarcat | what config files could those be? |
| 17:12.50 | anarcat | god that laptop is slooooowww |
| 17:13.03 | valdyn | anarcat: somewhere in /etc/, lists the modules required in your initrd |
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| 17:13.07 | anisX | anarcat: get new one ;p |
| 17:13.12 | anarcat | valdyn, right |
| 17:13.23 | anarcat | anisX, sure thing, gimme a thousand bucks :) |
| 17:13.25 | deadcat | i am having problem with debian.org unstable key W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 17:13.31 | abrotman | anisX: all working ? |
| 17:13.32 | anisX | anarcat: tell me your account then ;p |
| 17:13.34 | anarcat | deadcat, read the topic |
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| 17:13.45 | deadcat | anarcat: ya. i have that already |
| 17:13.47 | anarcat | anisX, i take checques :) |
| 17:13.57 | anarcat | deadcat, sorry then |
| 17:14.02 | anisX | abrotman: yes i guess so , i just really scared when someone hacked the RH9 about 2 hrs ago , so i just go and change the OS Distrobution |
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| 17:14.12 | deadcat | anarcat: i just got this message this morning. |
| 17:14.16 | stew | deadcat: /topic |
| 17:14.17 | abrotman | anisX: ah ok |
| 17:14.30 | anarcat | deadcat, did you actually switch mirrors? |
| 17:14.38 | deadcat | anarcat: nope. |
| 17:14.41 | anisX | abrotman: i hope that stupid guys do not have local exploit for debian ;p |
| 17:14.57 | anarcat | deadcat, well then i don't think we can help you |
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| 17:15.34 | deadcat | anarcat: yay. followed dpkg and it seems fixed. no clue what just happened (= |
| 17:16.05 | anisX | Could not chdir to home directory /home/webmaster: No such file or directory , i got this msg when i useradd webmaster and ssh to it , that is ok ? |
| 17:16.17 | stew | anisX: use adduser not useradd |
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| 17:16.27 | peej | I'm looking at getting an sd storage based camera. It has a usb interface. Does that mean I don't have to worry about SD politics? |
| 17:16.38 | anisX | stew: i will delete back the current one and add new account |
| 17:16.54 | stew | anisX: user userdel to undo the useradd, then use adduser |
| 17:17.01 | abrotman | anisX: /msg dpkg testing security |
| 17:17.31 | anisX | abrotman: dpkg que tal, anisx |
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| 17:17.39 | anisX | what language is it ? |
| 17:18.48 | anisX | oh ok |
| 17:18.54 | anisX | !! |
| 17:18.54 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
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| 17:19.12 | ivan16 | OLA |
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| 17:19.17 | ivan16 | AI CHIKAS |
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| 17:19.23 | tang0m | is packages.debian.org mirrored anywhere? |
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| 17:20.23 | abrotman | !testing securituy |
| 17:20.25 | abrotman | !testing security |
| 17:20.25 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, testing security is Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/, but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/, ask me about <secure-testing-master apt-key> |
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| 17:20.28 | anarcat | all right! |
| 17:20.35 | anarcat | i got a new kernel installed! |
| 17:20.37 | anarcat | excellent |
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| 17:20.48 | anarcat | i'll be right back with more annoying questions! ;) |
| 17:20.52 | herve_02 | hello |
| 17:20.53 | jason_ | anarcat, which kernel? |
| 17:20.59 | anarcat | jason_, 2.6.15 |
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| 17:21.08 | jason_ | which one did you have before? |
| 17:21.12 | anarcat | 2.6.8 |
| 17:21.22 | anarcat | brb |
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| 17:21.27 | jason_ | w\just out of curiosity, what made you upgrade? |
| 17:21.33 | Coke | I'm trying to configure a joypad with PCSX, but the buttons seem to be all wrong even though the config is set correctly, does the PCSX pad plugin work properly in Debian? |
| 17:21.57 | anisX | hey abrotman / azeem / stew : thanks for helping me guys..love you all :D |
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| 17:22.19 | anisX | Friendly Channel of The Year - #Debian ;p |
| 17:22.35 | herve_02 | i have some difficulties to play woth mmc readers on 2.6.8-2 and i was lookking for a new one more recent >2.6.12 where can i find one (.deb) ? |
| 17:22.47 | vibey | how do i re-attach to a terminal after disconnection? i didnt use the /detach .. is it possible ?? flip 1136 0.0 0.9 3860 2268 pts/4 S+ Mar10 0:00 bitchx designdream irc.debian.org |
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| 17:24.10 | anisX | checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no |
| 17:24.11 | anisX | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 17:24.12 | anisX | grrr |
| 17:24.15 | anisX | what happened now |
| 17:24.17 | jvw | vibey: screen -ls? |
| 17:24.23 | jvw | vibey: and then screen -r or screen -x |
| 17:24.29 | Kerr | Somebody just sent me a wmv of their gig (local band i like) but the file is huge, and far to dark. Where would i start in re-encoding it as something friendlier, and cleaning up the picture? |
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| 17:24.30 | anisX | apt-get install gcc |
| 17:24.31 | anisX | hoho |
| 17:24.35 | hid3 | anisX: apt-get install build-essential |
| 17:24.59 | lzhang | how do I turn off usb on boot? |
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| 17:25.17 | azeem | lzhang: look into hotplug/udev blacklisting, I'd say |
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| 17:25.44 | vibey | jvw: i wasnt using screen =( |
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| 17:26.07 | jvw | vibey: then you're out of luck |
| 17:26.29 | Kerr | !screen |
| 17:26.29 | dpkg | somebody said screen was allows you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.michael-prokop.at/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or apt-get install screen |
| 17:26.29 | azeem | ski: it's love |
| 17:26.34 | locus | hmm..anyone ever installed sarge on ibm blades? |
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| 17:27.12 | vibey | kerr: well i was using screen... but i ssh'd into another box and used bitchx via the ssh... i cant exactly screen within a screen (as far as i know) |
| 17:27.19 | anisX | hid3: working now thanksss |
| 17:27.29 | ski | hm, to be used mostly in non-X mode ? |
| 17:27.37 | anarcat | gosh |
| 17:27.46 | anarcat | the new kernel can't even mount root |
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| 17:28.52 | jvw | vibey: it works, but is quirky when you're using the same hotkey (^A) |
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| 17:29.21 | anarcat | i didn't copy down the message, but it can't find the hda1 device |
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| 17:29.25 | vibey | jvw: i tried it and changed the hotkey.. i got some odd characters.. |
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| 17:29.33 | anarcat | sounds like yaird didn't do its job after all |
| 17:29.36 | anarcat | <grumble> |
| 17:29.52 | anarcat | so |
| 17:29.59 | anarcat | i guess i could try to attack the root of the problem |
| 17:30.01 | anarcat | which is |
| 17:30.02 | anarcat | right now |
| 17:30.07 | anarcat | that my mouse isn't detect |
| 17:30.09 | anarcat | mice, actually |
| 17:30.20 | anarcat | which was working find before the upgrade |
| 17:30.28 | anarcat | so i'm sitting here with my older kernel |
| 17:30.42 | anarcat | and it's not detecting the mouse |
| 17:30.48 | anarcat | coudl this be a udev vs hotplug thing? |
| 17:30.48 | valdyn | anarcat: if that is your only issue that has nothing to do with yaird, 2.6.15 has known ps2 mouse issues iirc |
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| 17:31.00 | valdyn | !psmouse |
| 17:31.04 | anarcat | valdyn, i can't even boot 2.6.15 |
| 17:31.07 | valdyn | !ps2mouse |
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| 17:31.32 | anarcat | so i'm with 2.6.8 |
| 17:31.48 | anarcat | this laptop is so dead |
| 17:31.53 | gnufan | locus: not I -- but I'll see if a chap who may have is on line... |
| 17:31.56 | valdyn | anarcat: your initrd probably is missing your IDE driver |
| 17:32.01 | anarcat | the hard drive is so flaky it destroys some files from time to time |
| 17:32.12 | valdyn | anarcat: mount that file and look.. |
| 17:32.13 | anarcat | valdyn, sounds likely, how do I fix that? /etc/modules? |
| 17:32.24 | CptnObvious | Whee X doesn't work |
| 17:32.33 | CptnObvious | Oh well. |
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| 17:32.39 | locus | gnufan, thanks |
| 17:32.57 | valdyn | anarcat: yaird and linux-image packages ought to have a way to add custom modules to your initrd, i dont know how.. read the documentation |
| 17:33.08 | kingsley | What's a good way to tell if two devices can share in interrupt (irq)? |
| 17:33.10 | anarcat | i see |
| 17:33.27 | valdyn | anarcat: ( right now its only doing some 'hardware detection' and adding what it 'thinks' is needed to your initrd |
| 17:33.31 | gnufan | locus: he says he did HP blade servers - my bad. |
| 17:33.44 | azeem | kingsley: irq sharing should be a no-brainer these days I thought |
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| 17:34.24 | anarcat | valdyn, thank you |
| 17:34.36 | anarcat | (again :) |
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| 17:36.13 | anisX | hey i go sleep first |
| 17:36.13 | kristalino | how to test the RPM of a Hard Drive ? |
| 17:36.16 | anisX | really tired..thanks |
| 17:36.22 | kristalino | anisX, nite |
| 17:36.26 | twisted` | ey, question, I got a network card here... it works under 2.4.27-2, but the mouse doesn't work... under 2.6.15-8 the network card doesn't work, it somehow won't proceed with the dhcp request, but the mouse does work... I also can't find any newer 2.4 kernel in apt (maybe seeking in the wrong place perhaps?), I also have placed a new nic, but it doesn't want to accept that one either for some unknown reason |
| 17:36.41 | Eulex | kristalino, test speed? hdparm -tT /dev/foo |
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| 17:36.46 | kingsley | azeem: Maybe they can share an irq. I now see that one of the devices, a serial port, passed a loopback test by echoing keystrokes in minicom. |
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| 17:37.55 | anarcat | ugh, yaird's config is a pain |
| 17:37.59 | kristalino | Eulex, not really i'd like to know if my Hard Drive is 4200 RPM or 5400 RPM or 7200 RPM or ...etc. |
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| 17:38.42 | hid3 | kristalino: usually I take the hard drive's model into google and search. That's the most efficient way I think |
| 17:38.46 | Sonny | Hi, I dont had acpi loaded, I loaded it with modprobe, how can I do that it load atumatically when reboot? |
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| 17:40.00 | anarcat | valdyn, then to regenerate the image i dpkg-reconfigure yaird or linux-image? |
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| 17:40.07 | Eulex | Sonny, I think acpid will load acpi stuff automatically at boot. if not; put the module names in /etc/modules |
| 17:40.31 | kristalino | hid3, i don't know the model, and i don't want to open my laptop |
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| 17:41.11 | hid3 | kristalino: try `dmesg` or cat /var/log/dmesg. Usually it helps |
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| 17:42.35 | kristalino | hid3, of course :) |
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| 17:43.58 | AlienX | kristalino, maybe hdparm? |
| 17:44.31 | kristalino | AlienX, i don't think i'll get RPM values with this tool |
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| 17:45.06 | hid3 | btw, if talking about hard drives.. How can I put a SCSI disk into sleep mode? Like for IDE it qould be hdparm -y /dev/hdX. |
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| 17:45.50 | evilbulgarian | hi, can someone recommend a system for ticket trafing for database requests? |
| 17:46.15 | lzhang | I'm trying to get 2 onboard nic's and a 2 pci cards to each be on their own irq, how can I accomplish this? |
| 17:46.22 | romeo_ | I have a debian stable machine and I have a piece of software that requires python 2.4 but 2.3 is installed and 2.4 is not available through aptitude. How can I upgrade python? |
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| 17:46.49 | AlienX | romeo_, you can find a sid package or compile 2.4 yourself |
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| 17:47.54 | cire | I want to download the 2.4.25 kernel-source with debian patches. Where may I find those? |
| 17:48.02 | romeo_ | AlienX_, I don't mind compiling it myself but kde seems to have a ton of software depending on version 2.3 of python. Is it possible for me to install python 2.4 aside python 2.3? |
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| 17:48.56 | ALVAN | hi ..anybody knows what dependencies cedega needs??? |
| 17:49.03 | AlienX | romeo_, yeah, i do on my box |
| 17:49.19 | AlienX | ALVAN, did you try their site? |
| 17:49.26 | Eulex | cire, /msg dpkg sdn |
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| 17:49.46 | cire | Eulex: Thank you. |
| 17:49.48 | yggdrasil | is it necesary to defrag ext3 drives ? |
| 17:49.56 | AlienX | yggdrasil, no |
| 17:50.02 | yggdrasil | cool |
| 17:50.03 | ALVAN | yes ... AlienX ..but i have some test fialed |
| 17:50.13 | romeo_ | AlienX, thanks I'll try that then, is there anything special I should know about doing that? thanks |
| 17:50.18 | Eulex | !defrag |
| 17:50.18 | dpkg | well, defrag is the best windows screensaver, or what windows users do for emotional satisfaction when the frequency of illegal operations and bluescreens has become too big |
| 17:50.20 | yggdrasil | Alienx is there any maintenance i should perform on it ? |
| 17:50.25 | AlienX | romeo_, not that I know of. gl |
| 17:50.42 | romeo_ | k, thank you |
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| 17:50.47 | AlienX | yggdrasil, you may want to do fsck if asks you to on boot |
| 17:50.52 | ALVAN | AlienX, cedega is running on my box but ...not so good i have some test failed ..if you know what tests |
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| 17:51.28 | AlienX | ALVAN, hmm...not sure. I've always just installed the package and haven't had any problems. I think the cedega site has a forum on it you could probably ask |
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| 17:51.41 | ALVAN | ok ... |
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| 17:53.29 | unfo | there's always channel #cedega |
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| 17:53.56 | ALVAN | yes i know but ....maybe not are so talking |
| 17:53.59 | unfo | oops, now I see ALVAN is there already. |
| 17:54.08 | ciroro | I have 512 mb of ram, is there a way to see wheter it is 1x512 or 2x256? |
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| 17:54.37 | Shadowcat | install Everest Home |
| 17:54.40 | unfo | ciroro: one way is to open your pc. :) |
| 17:54.40 | ALVAN | :) |
| 17:55.05 | ciroro | only problem is that it's about 100 km from here :] |
| 17:55.26 | cire | Eulex: Snapshot.debian.net cannot be found... |
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| 17:55.28 | unfo | ciroro: oh (lol) get someone else to do it? |
| 17:55.32 | dvm1981 | ciroro: In the BIOS |
| 17:55.38 | daha | hi@all. after an "apt-get dist-upgrade" (i use the etch version) i got a problem with my keyboard layout. in the xorg.conf file i have configured the keyboard with the options "XkbRules" as "xfree86" and "XkbLayout" as "de_CH", but this don't work - i think it maps the standard layout defined by xorg. but if i map the layout with the xkbsel tool 'xkbsel -s "xfree86(de_CH)"' it works. does anyone have a clue what i can do to solve this? well, i co |
| 17:55.38 | daha | uld add the xkbsel command to my login-script, but the should be an other solution, shouldn't it? |
| 17:55.53 | ciroro | dvm1981: and how do I view the bios on a pc 100 km away? :) |
| 17:56.04 | locus | hmm, whats the easiest way to download a package and extract one file from it without installing anything (Im just looking for one of the default kernel configs)? |
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| 17:56.18 | dvm1981 | ciroro: Ask to someone wo is there, 'colaborating' |
| 17:56.42 | cire | locus: not sure, but just download it and browse it via Midnight Commander... |
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| 17:56.48 | ciroro | well there should be some tool/program to check it |
| 17:56.50 | unfo | iirc my bios doesn't have that information. (i have a dell inspiron 1100 laptop). |
| 17:56.50 | ciroro | hell even windows shows it |
| 17:57.05 | unfo | ciroro: there's lshw but I don't know if that does it. |
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| 17:57.20 | AlienX | ciroro, you could cat /proc/meminfo but i doubt it shows that info |
| 17:57.24 | ciroro | it doesn't |
| 17:57.25 | Eulex | yggdrasil, http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/08/msg03496.html |
| 17:57.33 | unfo | daha: if nobody is helping you here then try #debian-de |
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| 17:57.39 | ciroro | lswh does it, thanks |
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| 17:57.48 | locus | cire, ok im gonna try that |
| 17:57.55 | Eulex | cire, fsck. that one's down too? guess you'll have to wait then. |
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| 17:58.06 | unfo | ciroro: np |
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| 17:58.34 | cire | Eulex: Just wanted to be sure that the url is correct. I'll wait then... |
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| 17:59.00 | bedouin | I have a firewire hard drive attached to a machine running Debian. The drive is always on and the machine is a server, so I prefer to have it automounted by fstab on boot. The problem is, the fstab auto command doesn't work with it on boot, maybe because the fw drivers aren't initialized in time. Is there any workaround for this other than putting a mount command in my inittab? |
| 17:59.03 | Eulex | cire, it is. |
| 17:59.14 | cire | Eulex: Is it possible to include it in resources.list? |
| 17:59.17 | unfo | there was a good discussion on hardware diagnostics on Ask Slashdot a while back. ever since then i've been running smartd and i plan to get sensord working RSN. |
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| 18:00.30 | anarcat | hum... |
| 18:00.38 | cire | locus: "apt-cache show packet" should show you the location where you will find it. Use wget to download it. |
| 18:00.39 | anarcat | so even rebuilding the initrd didn't help |
| 18:00.48 | anarcat | still no luck loading the new kernel |
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| 18:00.56 | anarcat | on this 2.6.8 can't talk to my mouse |
| 18:01.00 | Ollie | what is the /var and /usr folders set aside for? |
| 18:01.04 | anarcat | even though psmouse is loaded |
| 18:01.07 | anarcat | this is hopeless |
| 18:01.12 | unfo | Ollie: type in: man hier |
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| 18:01.32 | anarcat | i mean i could prolly figure out a way to start x without a mouse, but that wouldn't be very useful anyways |
| 18:01.32 | cire | locus: I also found "apt-get -d" to just download them without installing, Afterwards you should find them in /var/cache/apt/archive. (didn't check that) |
| 18:01.35 | anarcat | bleeeeeh |
| 18:01.35 | unfo | anarcat: you don't have a USB mouse lying around? they only cost #5. |
| 18:01.39 | unfo | s/#/$ |
| 18:01.44 | anarcat | unfo, i do have a usb mouse |
| 18:01.45 | locus | cire, even better, thanks :) |
| 18:01.46 | anarcat | not working either |
| 18:01.48 | Ollie | unfo, in shell? |
| 18:01.50 | unfo | anarcat: oh. :( |
| 18:01.54 | unfo | Ollie: yes. |
| 18:01.58 | Eulex | cire, yes it is. but that's not very necessary to just get one package. also, I believe the packages from that location is stored on the same server as the page itself, so you'll have to wait nevertheless. |
| 18:01.59 | anarcat | this machine is such a mess |
| 18:01.59 | Ollie | ok |
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| 18:02.44 | cire | Eulex: I was expecting this, too ;) |
| 18:03.12 | unfo | locus: there's apt-get source but i don't know if that will work for kernel packages. but it's easy to get a full kernel from www.kernel.org. |
| 18:03.28 | jetscreamer | w/o debian patches |
| 18:04.10 | unfo | jetscreamer: how different could debian's .config file be? |
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| 18:04.25 | Eulex | unfo, it's not just the .config file that differs. |
| 18:04.41 | jetscreamer | patches, not .config |
| 18:04.57 | TonyStark | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.02 | jetscreamer | i change the debian .config asap ) |
| 18:05.08 | Ollie | unfo, nice one I have been looking for something like this for a while |
| 18:07.02 | Azar | holly cow, am I paranoic or right thinking that a web-interfaced firewall is a crazy, dumb idea? |
| 18:07.05 | Ollie | how to I excape from a man page? |
| 18:07.18 | thingfish | Ollie: q |
| 18:07.27 | Ollie | ty |
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| 18:09.48 | Azar | ah... is some sort of D-Link router box only made for linux |
| 18:09.55 | Ollie | At the top of ee (easy editor) which I used instead of vi it says ^x search What key does the ^ symbol represent? |
| 18:09.57 | michael117 | I am trying to run fluxbox but keep getting this error: ~# fluxbox |
| 18:09.57 | michael117 | Warning: Failed to open file(/usr/share/fluxbox/nls/en_US/fluxbox.cat) |
| 18:09.57 | michael117 | for translation, using default messages. |
| 18:09.57 | michael117 | Error: Couldn't connect to XServer |
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| 18:10.18 | tchino | why I cannot start kde over the login window of kde, i can only start kde over the console with 'startx /usr/bin/startkde'. What is wrong? |
| 18:10.22 | Azar | michael117: you cannot paste here |
| 18:10.36 | michael117 | Azar: sorry |
| 18:10.39 | dvm1981 | tchino: kdm installed? |
| 18:11.07 | Azar | michael117: if you need help you will have to tell more about your system... give info |
| 18:11.17 | dvm1981 | tchino: 'dpkg --status kdm' |
| 18:11.30 | Eulex | Ollie, ctrl |
| 18:11.54 | tchino | dvm1981: is installed |
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| 18:12.02 | valdyn | tchino: dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 18:12.36 | tchino | valdyn: kdm is setted |
| 18:12.38 | Ollie | Eulex, but when I do that nothing happens... |
| 18:12.44 | valdyn | tchino: setted? |
| 18:12.53 | dvm1981 | selected |
| 18:12.58 | Ollie | the others work e.g. ^b for bottom |
| 18:12.58 | valdyn | tchino: which application was it you were using for logging in anyway, kdm? |
| 18:13.06 | dvm1981 | with the lastest decoder :-/ |
| 18:13.07 | Eulex | Ollie, ^x means ctrl-x -- that is, press x while holding ctrl. |
| 18:13.09 | tchino | valdyn: i had adjust kdm |
| 18:13.20 | tchino | valdyn: that is not the problem |
| 18:13.25 | michael117 | Azar: http://pastebin.com/600073 <there is the error message after I try starting fluxbox |
| 18:13.37 | valdyn | tchino: pick kde in kdm as session to log in and log in... |
| 18:13.42 | michael117 | Azar: this machine is like a server/testbox |
| 18:13.55 | Azar | michael: let me ask you then.. |
| 18:13.56 | resiak | michael117: Is X even running? |
| 18:14.01 | dvm1981 | Eulex, have you switched it? It's ctrl then x ?? |
| 18:14.01 | michael117 | Azar: I had it running gnome by defualt |
| 18:14.16 | Azar | michael117: operating system version, kernel version, kde? gnome? none? |
| 18:14.18 | Eulex | Ollie, if that doesn't work, either some program in X (if it's running in an X terminal emulator) is intercepting that key combo or the program is buffy. |
| 18:14.26 | Ollie | Eulex, it is odd ^x doesnt work but ^e does |
| 18:14.43 | Ollie | ^e search prompt |
| 18:14.48 | Azar | michael117: ah ok I have no idea about gnome or kde, so I am not able to help.. I only run openbox plain |
| 18:14.51 | Ollie | ^x search |
| 18:14.52 | michael117 | Azar: what command(s) can I type in to get the OS version, kernel info, etc |
| 18:14.57 | tchino | valdyn: how you mean |
| 18:14.58 | Eulex | Ollie, I dunno. |
| 18:15.09 | valdyn | tchino: is kdm running? |
| 18:15.10 | dvm1981 | Ollie: First, ctrl then x |
| 18:15.16 | tchino | valdyn: in kcontrol |
| 18:15.24 | Eulex | dvm1981, yes, that's what I said. |
| 18:15.32 | dvm1981 | Ollie: ^^ |
| 18:15.34 | valdyn | tchino: this has nothing to do with kcontrol |
| 18:15.34 | michael117 | resiak: yes, x is running and I'm connected to it over tightvnc |
| 18:15.47 | valdyn | tchino: kdm is a login manager |
| 18:15.49 | dvm1981 | tchino: kdm - KDE Display Manager |
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| 18:15.56 | dvm1981 | oeps |
| 18:16.00 | tchino | valdyn: now i run kde over the console |
| 18:16.07 | resiak | michael117: why are you trying to start fluxbox as root? |
| 18:16.15 | valdyn | tchino: kde does not run on the console |
| 18:16.21 | Azar | good point, resiak |
| 18:16.23 | Ollie | I got the whole pressing twos keys at once sorted guys. My ee does not seem to do anything for ^x but it does for ^e it brings up a search prompt so it is fine |
| 18:16.24 | Ollie | thanks |
| 18:16.28 | Eulex | haha |
| 18:16.33 | valdyn | tchino: kde runs on X, X can be started from console |
| 18:16.40 | tchino | valdyn: startx /usr/bin/startkde |
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| 18:16.54 | Eulex | maybe libcaca could do it? :) |
| 18:16.55 | valdyn | tchino: yea, you said that, quit X, run /etc/init.d/kdm start |
| 18:16.58 | michael117 | resiak: I ssh'd in as root to edit some files and kind of forgot |
| 18:17.11 | resiak | Azar: Hey, I try :) |
| 18:17.19 | TonyStark | hello everybody... I0m having trouble with apt-get update, it says from yesterda<y something like "W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org etch Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" somebody knows what can I do? |
| 18:17.21 | Azar | michael117: you can never run X as root, is not good |
| 18:17.28 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: /topic |
| 18:17.31 | valdyn | Azar: uh? |
| 18:17.38 | tchino | valdyn: wait, i want to login over irc over the console |
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| 18:17.45 | valdyn | Azar: you mean 'you shouldnt log into X as root' |
| 18:17.47 | Azar | valdyn: it is? |
| 18:17.55 | dvm1981 | !tell TonyStark about topic |
| 18:17.57 | valdyn | Azar: X is suid root ) |
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| 18:18.03 | Azar | valdyn I thought "it is not good" clarified |
| 18:18.13 | TonyStark | dvm1981, nopes, it is not topic, topic was for other trouble, nevertheless, I did that, and it didn't worked :( |
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| 18:18.28 | michael117 | Azar: I didn't specifically log in as root and start x, I just have it set up in a config file somewhere to do so |
| 18:18.31 | Eulex | Azar, ps aux|grep X -- the X server itself almost always runs as root. |
| 18:18.53 | Ollie | Will there be much/any speed benefit in setting up a LAN dns server for my home network of 5pcs? |
| 18:18.56 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: Ok, it's because that question is asked many times, the last time, and i was thinking it was the same case |
| 18:19.14 | Azar | ah ok, well from my own box : I am not able to run X as root. I blocked it |
| 18:19.19 | tchino | valdyn: kdm already running |
| 18:19.31 | TonyStark | dvm1981, I thought something like that, but this time it wasn't needed to be so harsh man ;D |
| 18:19.51 | dvm1981 | tchino: /etc/init.d/kdm restart or use 'stop', 'start' |
| 18:19.52 | valdyn | tchino: so pick kde in kdm and log in |
| 18:19.55 | unfo | Ollie, is it ok if I PM you? |
| 18:20.06 | valdyn | tchino: oh or stop kdm first as dvm1981 said and then start kdm |
| 18:20.23 | TonyStark | so, anybody else knows which troubles is ftp.debian.org in? |
| 18:20.24 | valdyn | tchino: you're confusing me when you state error messages as facts |
| 18:20.26 | Azar | michael117: to make the long story short resiak asked you if you are logged in as root and trying to start fluxbox. |
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| 18:20.37 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: Is down, i think |
| 18:20.43 | Ollie | unfo, sure |
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| 18:20.57 | Kerr | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.09 | TonyStark | dvm1981, it isn't down I think, packages dowloads, but apt-get update complains about the sign keys... |
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| 18:21.14 | irc | valdyn: you are here |
| 18:21.30 | valdyn | irc: no, the guy above talking isnt me |
| 18:21.31 | Ollie | unfo, go for it |
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| 18:21.41 | gypsy | hello |
| 18:21.53 | gypsy | there is an alternative package to ipaudit in debian? |
| 18:21.59 | irc | dvm1981: you are here |
| 18:22.04 | dvm1981 | yes |
| 18:22.29 | irc | valdyn: dvm1981: i'm now under the console irc |
| 18:22.35 | twisted` | how can I change init startup? so a certain init won't be started... |
| 18:22.58 | valdyn | twisted`: move /etc/init.d/whatever away |
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| 18:23.13 | twisted` | valdyn: I gotta remove it? |
| 18:23.14 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: I had a problem today to update and so, and it look that it was the server. I have do an check again, and it work |
| 18:23.15 | twisted` | hmm |
| 18:23.43 | valdyn | twisted`: no, 'move' ( mv(1) ) |
| 18:23.49 | TonyStark | dvm1981, I'm having trouble since yesterday... |
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| 18:23.59 | twisted` | valdyn: meh, that's what I meant :) |
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| 18:24.16 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: Yes, but like i have not sleep sinds, it's the same day for my :-/ |
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| 18:25.02 | TonyStark | dvm1981, er, well, I'm sorry for you :/ |
| 18:25.36 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: No man, it was an nice 'white night', some things solved, so it's ok :-) |
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| 18:25.40 | irc | valdyn: the same problem: kde want to start, a black screen comes, and then i get the login screen again |
| 18:25.52 | adivoinea | hello, i am using debian testing and when I try to apt-get update I get this warning: W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org testing Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 18:25.58 | abrotman | adivoinea: read the topic |
| 18:26.00 | TonyStark | dvm1981, aham, ok, system admisnitration? or programming? |
| 18:26.14 | adivoinea | abrotman: thanks |
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| 18:26.28 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: A bit of the both :-) |
| 18:26.46 | irc | dvm1981: the same problem: kde want to start, a black screen comes, and then i get the login screen again |
| 18:26.46 | valdyn | irc: read ~/.xsession-errors, or just put 'exec startkde' into ~/.xsession and log into X from kdm after picking the default X Session |
| 18:27.07 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: I have work on PHP, MySQL (don't ask why, i know postgre :-)) |
| 18:27.09 | TonyStark | dvm1981, ok ;D (I?m afraid I'm stuck with no system adm and no programming til I solve my own issue with this grrrrrrrr) |
| 18:27.14 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: This night |
| 18:27.54 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: An good method to learn some new thing |
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| 18:28.29 | TonyStark | dvm1981, aha, my plan was to start something with R right now, but it have to be posponed... |
| 18:28.51 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: R? |
| 18:29.04 | michael117 | resiak: yes, I tried to run fluxbox as root, but I have also logged in as a regular user and tried and got the same error message |
| 18:29.12 | resiak | *shrug* |
| 18:29.13 | dvm1981 | TonyStark: I have an little head, and next year i upgrade it :-/ |
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| 18:29.28 | dvm1981 | hhmmm |
| 18:29.35 | TonyStark | dvm1981, a system for statistical works. It is a collection of routines (statistical routines) and a preogramming language |
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| 18:30.15 | unfo | dvm1981: you can't start X and so can't do work? |
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| 18:30.48 | dvm1981 | unfo: You ask it to the wrong person |
| 18:31.16 | dvm1981 | unfo: Its for the irc usere here |
| 18:31.20 | rmunoz | hola quien eres |
| 18:31.20 | irc | valdyn: i have an error in xmodmap commandline 1, bad number of buttons, must have 11 instead 7, where i have to look? |
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| 18:31.50 | bazboo | Are there any file transfer protocols that are less complex to port-forward than FTP but are faster than SCP? |
| 18:32.03 | abrotman | rsync ? |
| 18:32.09 | dvm1981 | unfo: the user 'irc' and not irc, hoela that's look a bit strange |
| 18:32.23 | unfo | dvm1981: oh. |
| 18:32.30 | unfo | irc: you can't start X and so can't do work? |
| 18:32.37 | bazboo | abrotman: alright, tried it once before and didn't have much luck, got a line on a good tutorial? |
| 18:32.50 | abrotman | nope |
| 18:33.05 | abrotman | i don't know why ftp is complex .. |
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| 18:33.25 | unfo | i use lftp, it's an excellent client. |
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| 18:33.42 | abrotman | unfo: i don't tihnk he's looking for a client |
| 18:33.50 | unfo | ah just checked scrollback :/ |
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| 18:34.24 | unfo | bazboo: there're SFTP and FTPS, i don't know anything about them though other than that they exist. |
| 18:34.27 | _joey_ | where should I place php scripts in apache2 default dir ? |
| 18:34.37 | abrotman | whereever you want |
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| 18:34.45 | dvm1981 | _joey_: Depending what you want |
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| 18:35.19 | Silent_al | hello , whats the name of that command that shows hardware info? something like > dmicode (?) i 4got |
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| 18:35.41 | Eulex | Silent_al, lspci, hwinfo? |
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| 18:35.50 | dvm1981 | _joey_: I supos you want to make an 'public_html' folder in the user dir '~/user/public_html' where there that user can put his stuff |
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| 18:36.06 | _joey_ | dvm1981 what do you mean depending? I want to move php script into apache default dir |
| 18:36.25 | bazboo | abrotman: i'm trying to dodge some weird firewall issues, that's why |
| 18:36.46 | irc | dvm1981: i have an error in .xsession-errors: xmodmap commandline 1, bad number of buttons, must have 11 instead 7, where i have to look? |
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| 18:37.04 | Silent_al | Eulex, to be psecific, i wanna whats the bus ident of my pci cirrus logic video card |
| 18:37.05 | dvm1981 | _joey_: All users on you're system can make an folder in the '~/userdir/public_html/' so that you not needs to begin with root user or so. |
| 18:37.09 | bazboo | abrotman: and for some unknown reason, SCP is horrendously slow whenever I try to use it. Less than 1/10 of connection bandwidth. |
| 18:37.11 | Silent_al | know* |
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| 18:37.30 | unfo | bazboo: weird. |
| 18:37.47 | Eulex | Silent_al, for dpkg-reconfigure xserver-(xorg|xfree86)? you most often don't need to know it. just enter nothing. |
| 18:37.47 | unfo | bazboo: what does top report as cpu usage? |
| 18:38.07 | dvm1981 | _joey_: Where 'userdir' is the dir of an user. So you can easy experiment to make php pages ans so without making it with the root user on /var/www... |
| 18:38.09 | Silent_al | Eulex, ok thanx |
| 18:38.09 | _joey_ | dvm1981 I am the only user on this system |
| 18:38.10 | tarzeau | abrotman: man, the package briquolo is ready :) |
| 18:38.19 | dvm1981 | _joey_: Also good |
| 18:38.28 | tarzeau | any opengl freaks wanna test it? |
| 18:38.51 | unfo | i know a 3d freak but he runs gentoo. such a waste... |
| 18:39.12 | Eulex | Silent_al, you only need to know it when you've got multiple graphics cards or very special non-x86 hardware |
| 18:39.18 | bazboo | unfo: nothing to unusual; i suspect that it's something to do with a packet shaper |
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| 18:39.37 | bazboo | unfo: but since FTP uses a lot of ports it's sort of difficult to forward |
| 18:39.41 | unfo | bazboo: on your ISP's servers? |
| 18:39.41 | dvm1981 | _joey_: http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/ the '~david' part is eqivalent to '/home/david/public_html/' |
| 18:39.54 | bazboo | unfo: no, it's a .edu, and they're fuckers |
| 18:40.00 | unfo | bazboo: sad. |
| 18:40.02 | abrotman | tarzeau: that was easy |
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| 18:40.08 | bazboo | unfo: yes mostly |
| 18:40.15 | dvm1981 | _joey_: And when you only use http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/ its refer to /var/www/apache... |
| 18:40.15 | _joey_ | dvm1981 okay thanks |
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| 18:40.19 | abrotman | bazboo: did you try ftp-passive mode? |
| 18:40.23 | bazboo | unfo: 9 parts sad and 1 part annoying |
| 18:40.26 | tarzeau | abrotman: no it wasn't, the build system's got some nasty makefiles i had to fix |
| 18:40.27 | roadfish | how do I view all packages with a particular tag? |
| 18:40.30 | bazboo | abrotman: hmm |
| 18:40.36 | bazboo | abrotman: i'll look into it |
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| 18:40.41 | unfo | bazboo: there's always the option to become friends with the network admins... |
| 18:40.42 | dvm1981 | _joey_: Sometimes i have some troubles to explain me, sorry for my spahetti english :-/ |
| 18:40.43 | abrotman | tarzeau: oh .. i didn't realize you were working on it this whole time |
| 18:40.49 | unfo | roadfish: use aptitude |
| 18:40.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: i just worked a little yesterday night and now |
| 18:40.55 | abrotman | tarzeau: did you submit patches back to upstream ? |
| 18:40.56 | bazboo | unfo: no, i already burned the bridge a few years ago |
| 18:41.08 | roadfish | unfo: tnx |
| 18:41.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've only let them know i'll package it... didn't hear anything yet |
| 18:41.13 | unfo | roadfish: Control-Shift-T (twice!) then look for the tag browser. |
| 18:41.15 | abrotman | tarzeau: ah ok .. fun game though eh ? :) |
| 18:41.26 | tarzeau | abrotman: yap, i'll finish the rest of the levels |
| 18:41.31 | abrotman | woohoo! |
| 18:41.52 | Azar | tarzeau hi, what game? |
| 18:41.54 | dvm1981 | roadfish: apt-cache pkgnames |
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| 18:41.59 | tarzeau | Azar: briquolo |
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| 18:42.09 | Azar | :) yay! woohoo! |
| 18:42.12 | dvm1981 | roadfish: And look good and quick! |
| 18:42.15 | dvm1981 | :-) |
| 18:42.53 | dvm1981 | roadfish: So that would be usefull 'apt-cache pkgnames | less' |
| 18:43.03 | abrotman | tarzeau: did you send to new yet? |
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| 18:43.23 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'll let me sponsor know in a second... i need to transfer it from my local machine to my repo first |
| 18:43.44 | irc | valdym: dvm1981: do you have an idea |
| 18:43.48 | abrotman | tarzeau: ah ok |
| 18:44.02 | unfo | irc: you can't start X and so can't do work? |
| 18:44.16 | irc | dvm1981: i have an error in .xsession-errors: xmodmap commandline 1, bad number of buttons, must have 11 instead 7, where i have to look? |
| 18:44.48 | irc | valdym: dvm1981: when start kde over kdm |
| 18:45.05 | dvm1981 | irc: You try a bad thing, i think |
| 18:45.21 | dvm1981 | irc: You not need to start kde over kdm |
| 18:45.28 | Azar | it looks awesmoe |
| 18:45.57 | irc | dvm1981: how looks your xmodmap? |
| 18:46.12 | dvm1981 | irc: The simples method, reboot the computer and nomally kdm start automatically. Or you can use the methods that we have say you previously |
| 18:46.38 | dvm1981 | vim .xsession ?? |
| 18:46.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm not able to build danger-from-the-deep |
| 18:46.56 | dvm1981 | irc: It's in you're home folder. |
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| 18:47.03 | abrotman | tarzeau: hrm .. worked for me |
| 18:47.09 | irc | dvm1981: i understand all, but when i restart my computer, all is the same, that is not the solution, i have a problem with xmodmap?! |
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| 18:47.20 | tarzeau | abrotman: you know this is a ubuntu server install moved to sid. because debian don't support my harddisk |
| 18:47.21 | dvm1981 | irc: Ok |
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| 18:47.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: i have my own kernel now, and a bunch of packages with ubuntu in the version one of them breaking python and all python is needed by |
| 18:47.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: among of them: blender, scons... |
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| 18:47.58 | dvm1981 | irc: Im not sure but think that 'nano /home/USERNAME/.xsession' can help |
| 18:48.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: do you think etch is released this year? |
| 18:48.09 | Norbert_ | hi, is there a way to simulate mouse movement and mouse clicks? (program?) |
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| 18:48.25 | roadfish | dvm1981: thanks for the 'apt-cache pkgnames | less' tip |
| 18:48.32 | Norbert_ | (in X) |
| 18:48.38 | irc | dvm1981: in .xsession i have the message, that in xmodmap in commandline 1 is a problem |
| 18:48.54 | roadfish | is there a way to also display tag information? |
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| 18:49.08 | dvm1981 | roadfish: Great :-) |
| 18:49.18 | dvm1981 | irc: I not understand what you say there... |
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| 18:49.32 | ilyail3 | can someone help me with a sound issue? |
| 18:49.35 | dvm1981 | irc: .xsession is an config file, not an log file |
| 18:49.59 | dvm1981 | irc: Moment, paste that in pastebin or so |
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| 18:50.14 | dvm1981 | !tell irc about pastebin |
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| 18:51.17 | ilyail3 | I'm not getting any sound in my laptop |
| 18:51.32 | irc | dvm1981: wait my .xsession-errors is, xmodmap: commandline 1: bad number of buttons, must have 11 instead of 7 |
| 18:51.32 | ilyail3 | can someone help me? |
| 18:51.49 | dvm1981 | irc: No try just .xsession |
| 18:51.55 | stew | ilyail3: what card do you have? what driver are you using? |
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| 18:52.18 | ilyail3 | I have intel's famouse sound chip |
| 18:52.22 | dvm1981 | irc: And comment (by using #) that line that are bad or so |
| 18:52.23 | ilyail3 | 810 I think |
| 18:52.24 | irc | dvm1981: .xsession is empty |
| 18:52.28 | Azar | damn packages site is frozen again |
| 18:52.43 | stew | ilyail3: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 18:53.13 | ilyail3 | I don't know |
| 18:53.15 | unfo | Azar: yep :( |
| 18:53.31 | dvm1981 | irc: brrr, ok i need to look where it's store that config file about it. i was thinking that an line was added in '.xsession' |
| 18:54.02 | stew | ilyail3: type "uname -r" what does it return... |
| 18:54.09 | dvm1981 | irc: 'dpkg -L xmodmap' |
| 18:54.31 | asperon | hi guys, i am trying to get etch to run on an msi k8ngm-v with a sempron 3100 in it. i have been having some ide issues so i installed the os in another box and moved the disc. as soon as i do any hdd stuff for any period of time i get a lot of ata command 0x35 timeout, stat 0x50 host_stat 0x24 error , any idea was is causing this? hardware error or driver error? |
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| 18:54.40 | ilyail3 | stew:I'm new to irc and linux, I don't know |
| 18:54.41 | tarzeau | Azar: wanna test? |
| 18:54.42 | dvm1981 | irc: To see where all the files are stored for that pkg |
| 18:54.51 | stew | dvm1981: xmodmap isn't a pacakge, it's in xbase-clients |
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| 18:55.53 | ilyail3 | all: how do I set hardware in GNOME? |
| 18:56.02 | joseph | What is the most accurate estimate for the arrival of the next Stable release? |
| 18:56.03 | dvm1981 | stew: hhhhm, so that i not find it, and i had been see xbase-clients - miscellaneous X clients. Thanks for to correct me :-) |
| 18:56.12 | stew | ilyail3: what version of debian are you running? |
| 18:56.25 | ilyail3 | newest, testing |
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| 18:56.38 | tarzeau | Azar, abrotman: http://io.debian.net/~tar/debian/briquolo/ |
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| 18:57.19 | stew | ilyail3: you might find ubuntu to be easier for first time linux users |
| 18:57.27 | bazboo | !tell joseph about wwir |
| 18:57.47 | joseph | bazbo: I got nothing from that wwir ping |
| 18:57.50 | ilyail3 | stew: what's ubuntu? |
| 18:58.07 | Azar | thank you tarzeau! :) |
| 18:58.17 | dmattli | !tell joseph about wir |
| 18:58.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: ow fuck. unpacking stendhal gives me a bunch of .jar files |
| 18:58.21 | dvm1981 | bazboo: yep, also here, dpkg not know it |
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| 18:58.26 | abrotman | tarzeau: ewww .. javsa? |
| 18:58.30 | tarzeau | abrotman: and the triplex shooter is python... |
| 18:58.32 | stew | ilyail3: ubuntu.com |
| 18:58.38 | abrotman | tarzeau: snake 3d? |
| 18:58.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: maybe just wrong named zipfiles, within zipfiles... |
| 18:58.41 | bazboo | dvm1981: that's because i typed the damn thing wrong |
| 18:58.42 | joseph | dmattli: That is a tautological answer. |
| 18:58.46 | tarzeau | abrotman: i won't do 3d snake |
| 18:59.04 | Azar | tarzeau, can I install it in stable? |
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| 18:59.16 | tarzeau | Azar: should work, you'll need to build it |
| 18:59.18 | bazboo | joseph: no it's not strictly tautological |
| 18:59.23 | joseph | Question: When will it be ready? Answer: It will be ready when it is ready. |
| 18:59.26 | joseph | That is a tautology |
| 18:59.26 | Azar | :) thanks |
| 18:59.29 | bazboo | joseph: it does answer the question of when it will release |
| 18:59.35 | unfo | abrotman: join us in channel # or #chat :) |
| 18:59.37 | bazboo | joseph: it will release when it is ready |
| 18:59.48 | abrotman | tarzeau: i'll have to try the danger deep later |
| 18:59.53 | athlon | does debian have a thing like gentoo does with distcc? |
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| 18:59.56 | bazboo | joseph: it's only a tautology if you rephrase your question after the fact |
| 18:59.58 | abrotman | unfo: join us who? |
| 19:00.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: can you try stendhal? i can't unpack the jar files on this gnu/kfreebsd |
| 19:00.04 | abrotman | athlon: to do what? |
| 19:00.09 | abrotman | tarzeau: i'm at work! |
| 19:00.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: error [log4j.jar]: start of central directory not found; zipfile corrupt. |
| 19:00.17 | Coweater | athlon: distcc isn't gentoo specific |
| 19:00.21 | abrotman | eep |
| 19:00.24 | athlon | abrotman well "distcc" you can use multiple machines to compile.. |
| 19:00.25 | tarzeau | but file says: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract |
| 19:00.27 | unfo | abrotman: me and like 5 other ppl, its the perfect channel for weather |
| 19:00.31 | abrotman | athlon: compile .. what? |
| 19:00.31 | joseph | Why do we have to play this game? So, when will it be ready? |
| 19:00.38 | tarzeau | Azar: i'd like to hear if it worked for you |
| 19:00.41 | _joey_ | how do I set user/password for a database ? |
| 19:00.51 | abrotman | you ask #<yourdatabase> |
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| 19:00.59 | athlon | abrotman anything i want to compile..nothing specific |
| 19:01.01 | _joey_ | mysql |
| 19:01.04 | werw | _JOey_ with grant command |
| 19:01.12 | _joey_ | for mysqladmin ? |
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| 19:01.21 | Coweater | athlon: apt-get install distcc |
| 19:01.33 | werw | No it is a SQL COmmand |
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| 19:01.42 | dvm1981 | _joey_: Look an bit to phpmyadmin to manage create... database for Mysql |
| 19:01.43 | tarzeau | abrotman: if you've got nothing else anymore, i'll reboot into windows xp again |
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| 19:01.53 | abrotman | tarzeau: do what? |
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| 19:01.59 | Azar | tarzeau did you post it as well at freshmeat? |
| 19:02.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: boot in my lovely windows xp |
| 19:02.05 | abrotman | Azar: it's a package |
| 19:02.06 | dvm1981 | _joey_: But not forget to try it in the cli, really simple |
| 19:02.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: where my camera and tv card is supported |
| 19:02.15 | abrotman | tarzeau: eww |
| 19:02.16 | Azar | ah oh |
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| 19:02.17 | _joey_ | dvm1981 how in cli ? |
| 19:02.18 | tarzeau | Azar: nope |
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| 19:02.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: or you fix my tv card and quickcam? |
| 19:02.31 | abrotman | tarzeau: wired? |
| 19:02.41 | dvm1981 | _joey_: First you need to create the root password |
| 19:02.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: quickcam module never worked for me w/ 2.6 linux kernels |
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| 19:02.55 | joseph | When will the next Stable release be ready? |
| 19:02.59 | dmattli | joseph: http://release.debian.org/ has neat charts about the release status. |
| 19:03.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: and the tv card, no idea... works with 2.4. let me check if i find something in the kernel (2.6.15.6) |
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| 19:03.12 | abrotman | tarzeau: http://happypenguin.org/show?Globulation%202 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! looks impressive |
| 19:03.22 | dvm1981 | _joey_: Moment, i point you to an website or my notes |
| 19:03.31 | tarzeau | abrotman: awwww! /me checks |
| 19:03.40 | kapal | abrotman: cos its a good game |
| 19:03.50 | abrotman | kapal: you've played it? |
| 19:03.53 | kapal | yes |
| 19:03.54 | Piza | somebody from czech rep ? |
| 19:03.55 | bazboo | joseph: Look, if we knew we'd say so. |
| 19:04.03 | abrotman | kapal: is it worth packaging? |
| 19:04.09 | bazboo | joseph: It's not done chronologically until right at the end. |
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| 19:04.20 | dvm1981 | _joey_: http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/contrib/wrote/nl/mysql_notes/output/html-nochunks/ |
| 19:04.26 | bazboo | joseph: Do you realize how many deps have to fall into line to make a working release? |
| 19:04.34 | tarzeau | abrotman, kapal it already is |
| 19:04.36 | kapal | abrotman: think yes, but still it lacks some things, and ai's are a bit stupid |
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| 19:04.45 | tarzeau | abrotman, kapal and i hate those people who don't maintain the debian packages IN debian |
| 19:04.47 | dvm1981 | _joey_: Its in Dutch, but like you not whant to read, that does matter for you |
| 19:04.54 | abrotman | tarzeau: oh .. it's done already? |
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| 19:05.01 | abrotman | !find globulation sid |
| 19:05.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes, and i can't see the debian source package... |
| 19:05.07 | tarzeau | abrotman: only on their webpage |
| 19:05.17 | joseph | bazboo: I believe that you don't know exactly. But I also believe that there should be an estimation that is as accurate as possible. |
| 19:05.22 | abrotman | tarzeau: oh |
| 19:05.28 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'globulation' returned no results. |
| 19:05.36 | abrotman | tarzeau: http://happypenguin.org/show?Fish%20Fillets%20-%20Next%20Generation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:05.39 | tarzeau | abrotman: will you tell them? |
| 19:05.47 | kapal | glob2 - innovative state-of-the-art Real Time Strategy (RTS) game |
| 19:05.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: man, are you trying to stop me booting into windows xp? |
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| 19:05.52 | vikki | uhm, I've got a package in a very bad inconsistant state... anyone be kind enough to help me sort this mess out? |
| 19:05.54 | athlon | Where do I go about getting a "Package list" from which I find programs to type apt-get install program-name |
| 19:05.56 | bazboo | joseph: But accurate as possible is actually very inaccurate. So what's the point of offering a figure that's quite possibly total shit? |
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| 19:06.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: looks cute too... /me checks |
| 19:06.22 | abrotman | tarzeau: i don't think telling upstream thier packages are out of date will really matter :) |
| 19:06.28 | bazboo | joseph: all that will happen is it will feed release trolls when the date inevitably gets h4x0r3d for dependency reasons |
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| 19:06.35 | tarzeau | abrotman: ask them nicely to maintain in inside debian |
| 19:06.39 | vikki | athlon: apt-get update, maybe? |
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| 19:06.49 | dvm1981 | _joey_: Nice he Dutch? |
| 19:06.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: tell them you are dd and want to sponsor it. then apply for dd... |
| 19:06.55 | athlon | vikki ya I did that but what I want to read is the List |
| 19:06.55 | bazboo | !tell vikki about ask |
| 19:07.10 | joseph | bazboo: There's got to be some way to offer some picture of the release status without requiring the average person to read through 10 pages of documentation. |
| 19:07.27 | abrotman | tarzeau: don't you think i should make my own first :) |
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| 19:07.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: fish fillets has a 92mb datafile.... |
| 19:07.51 | bazboo | joseph: The problem is, summarizing this complex process leaves people with an impression it's more trivial and dependable than it really is. |
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| 19:08.06 | abrotman | tarzeau: doh! |
| 19:08.20 | Azar | uh I do not seem to be able to work it tarzeau |
| 19:08.21 | joseph | bazboo: It doesn't leave that impression with me. So, are we talking next year or this year? |
| 19:08.23 | dvm1981 | _joey_: Find it?? |
| 19:08.23 | bazboo | joseph: Then you get endless release trolls in #d flooding the channel every bloody Sunday with complaints about the missed dates, etc. |
| 19:08.34 | myren | whats the image magick binary program's name again? |
| 19:08.35 | bazboo | !bloody sunday |
| 19:08.39 | athlon | Where do I go about getting a "Package list" from which I find programs to type apt-get install program-name |
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| 19:08.52 | kapal | does anyone got successful in installing slapd and configuring it against postfix and subversion? |
| 19:08.56 | myren | bazboo: dude, teen-chat is in #web now, didnt you get the memo? |
| 19:08.59 | tarzeau | myren: convert |
| 19:09.03 | Eulex | athlon, /msg dpkg search |
| 19:09.04 | myren | kapal: postfix yes, subversion no |
| 19:09.11 | athlon | thanks Eulex |
| 19:09.11 | myren | tarzeau: how inane |
| 19:09.15 | bazboo | myren: *plonk* |
| 19:09.19 | Eulex | athlon, yw :) |
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| 19:09.35 | kapal | myren: ill paste you on #flood whatever you want.. will you help me? |
| 19:09.35 | myren | seriously #web is like a fraktastic sewing circle some days |
| 19:09.53 | myren | kapal sry mate, i really really do not have the time to fsck with slapd now |
| 19:10.03 | vikki | okay, I have a problem with going from stable to testing, sooo it's kinda inbetween versions... xserver-xfree86 is 'in a very bad inconsistant state' and sooo its causing a lot of other things to mess up, unmet dependancies and the like... basically www.vikkilea.co.uk/temp/error |
| 19:10.12 | djp | i gather the gnome-cups-manager is broken under debian 3.1 sarge? how do i fix the issue of cancelling a print job with it or do i have to use the web interface? |
| 19:10.18 | kapal | myren: understood.. slapd is a pain in the ass.. |
| 19:10.27 | abrotman | try #ldap or #postfix |
| 19:10.40 | Symok | Can someone tell me how to change the video card driver for X/GNome? I seem to have chosen the wrong one when I was installing, because all I get is a black screen when it tries to start Gnome |
| 19:10.51 | Eulex | !drxx Symok |
| 19:10.51 | dpkg | Symok: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 19:11.03 | myren | kapal: yeah no shiet. i was doing it all on kerberos too, it was a living hell |
| 19:11.05 | kapal | abrotman: thanx.. never new such a channels existed |
| 19:11.14 | tarzeau | abrotman: damn fillets is already packaged, hehe |
| 19:11.15 | myren | kapal: best of luck mate |
| 19:11.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: and in sid :) |
| 19:11.21 | abrotman | tarzeau: no way! |
| 19:11.29 | tarzeau | fillets-ng |
| 19:11.30 | abrotman | tarzeau: why doesn't danger deep build? |
| 19:11.33 | Symok | I run that right from / ? |
| 19:11.44 | Eulex | Symok, doesn't matter. |
| 19:11.46 | tarzeau | abrotman: because i can't install scons, because of the python-ubuntu mess ubuntu made |
| 19:11.46 | bazboo | vikki: trying to overwrite `/etc/X11/Xsession', which is also in package xfree86-common |
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| 19:12.02 | bazboo | vikki: that's the problem |
| 19:12.02 | vikki | yup : ) |
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| 19:12.02 | bazboo | vikki: the solution is about like this |
| 19:12.03 | abrotman | tarzeau: good job |
| 19:12.05 | Symok | Ok, will give it a try. Thanks |
| 19:12.10 | kapal | myren: willl try.. and go back here to teach anyone who bothers... still caught in the middle of nowhere |
| 19:12.16 | felipe_br | what's with the archive key? I'm getting bad key from apt-get update |
| 19:12.23 | abrotman | felipe_br: read the topic |
| 19:12.27 | tarzeau | !topicsmite felipe_br |
| 19:12.27 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon felipe_br. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 19:12.28 | Kerr | I'm currently using qmail, but trying to install ispconfig It only supports sendmail or postfix; and i really don't want to change. Can anyone think of a solution? |
| 19:12.30 | felipe_br | abrotman, tks |
| 19:12.40 | vikki | bazboo: www.vikkilea.co.uk/temp/error2 also, thanks for looking |
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| 19:12.46 | abrotman | Kerr: you don't want to use qmail |
| 19:13.01 | bazboo | vikki: go into /var/cache/apt/archives and try dpkg -i --force-overwrite on the deb file with the error |
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| 19:13.15 | vikki | bazboo: thanks, will do |
| 19:13.24 | felipe_br | well in fact I'm a mirror admin... what does "borked" really mean? |
| 19:13.28 | Kerr | abrotman: cast your mind back, back to yesterday.. when i mentioned the box is set up to somebody else's design, not mine :-P |
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| 19:13.50 | djp | does anyone know of a fix/workaround for the gnome-cups-manager problem under debian 3.1 sarge? |
| 19:14.01 | tarzeau | djp: which problem? |
| 19:14.03 | DoppleGanger | djp: don't use gnome |
| 19:14.04 | DoppleGanger | he he |
| 19:14.04 | abrotman | Kerr: fine .. tell your friend there are 6,000,000,000 on this planet and 5,999,999,998 think that qmail suck |
| 19:14.06 | tarzeau | djp: dosing printserver? |
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| 19:14.11 | tarzeau | djp: we've just chmod -x'd them |
| 19:14.14 | bazboo | vikki: occasionally there are little glitches where two packages mistakenly include some trivial common file |
| 19:14.22 | Kerr | abrotman: is there anything that can ease the transition from qmail to postfix; ie, translate stuff over? |
| 19:14.25 | bazboo | abrotman: too true; why use it when you could have postfic? |
| 19:14.34 | bazboo | abrotman: too true; why use it when you could have postfix? * |
| 19:14.34 | abrotman | Kerr: translate what? |
| 19:14.42 | tarzeau | i can translate to turkish |
| 19:14.45 | Kerr | the current setup he has. |
| 19:14.50 | abrotman | which is? |
| 19:14.53 | abrotman | what makes it special ? |
| 19:15.27 | Kerr | i dunno? |
| 19:15.50 | abrotman | then how do you know you have to translate anything ? |
| 19:15.56 | Kerr | abrotman: 2/6million people seem to like it. |
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| 19:16.09 | Kerr | billion^ |
| 19:16.09 | Kerr | even |
| 19:16.24 | abrotman | Kerr: yeah .. your friend and djb .. your friend is also guilty of running sid on a server .. so he is probably crazy .. and djb certainly is |
| 19:16.24 | tarzeau | Kerr: they are called masochists |
| 19:16.37 | profounded | Question, it seems raidtools2 has been removed from the debian packages, does anyone know if there is a replacement package for raid stuff like mkraid |
| 19:16.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: hey wait, i'm not crazy |
| 19:16.46 | tarzeau | abrotman: djb's licensing sucks |
| 19:16.50 | jason_ | is it me or is it impossible for some web browsers (like the ones found in debian) to display tables for formatting in html properly? |
| 19:16.50 | abrotman | tarzeau: not carzy enough to use qmail . no |
| 19:17.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's just laziness... |
| 19:17.06 | abrotman | jason_: you're not supposed to use tables for formatting .. ask #web |
| 19:17.09 | djp | tarzeau, if i try and cancel a print job, using gnome-cups-manager, it hangs and fails to cancel the print job |
| 19:17.10 | vikki | bazboo: thanks, i think its solved some of it.. how about this though: http://www.vikkilea.co.uk/temp/error2 xserver-xfree86 is messed up, i think it needs reinsstalling |
| 19:17.24 | tarzeau | djp: sounds like fun :) |
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| 19:17.39 | bazboo | vikki: is that error still occurring after the dpkg manual install? |
| 19:17.45 | vikki | yeah |
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| 19:17.58 | bazboo | vikki: alright, then do the same dpkg line on the xserver-xfree86 |
| 19:18.03 | vikki | okay will do |
| 19:18.04 | bazboo | vikki: should fix it |
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| 19:18.38 | bazboo | vikki: also when you get a chance write down the command 'dpkg --force-help' somewhere; when upgrades cause problems, this command is your friend |
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| 19:18.48 | Azar | in the news they said they fixed the packages archives, new boxes n all.... :( down again |
| 19:18.53 | Seb | how do I work around a "NFS stale file handle error" without rebooting ? |
| 19:18.58 | Seb | i can't seem to umount, even with -f |
| 19:19.04 | LSorensen | bazboo: actually --force is not to be used by peopel that don't know what it does |
| 19:19.22 | bazboo | LSorensen: hence the help option, which tells you what it does |
| 19:19.25 | LSorensen | bazboo: usualyl upgrade problems mean wait for a new version of the package to fix the issue. |
| 19:19.31 | Kerr | abrotman: friend has run sid servers at work for years, apparently. Does that make him an experienced masochist? |
| 19:19.34 | dvm1981 | felipe_br: Install 'dict' and his dictionaries borked - Common deliberate typo for `broken' |
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| 19:19.39 | LSorensen | bazboo: even suggesting --force to most people will cause them to go do stupid things |
| 19:19.44 | bazboo | LSorensen: that's all well and good until it hoses X over one trivial conf file conflict |
| 19:19.50 | vikki | : P |
| 19:19.54 | bazboo | vikki: hahaha |
| 19:19.58 | profounded | "raidtools stuff": at debian removals, it says an alternative exists to raidtools2, anyone know what that is? |
| 19:20.03 | bazboo | vikki: touché |
| 19:20.17 | LSorensen | bazboo: and that is life with debian unstable |
| 19:20.21 | abrotman | Kerr: or truly insane .. he's your friend :) |
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| 19:20.41 | LSorensen | bazboo: you hve to know enough linux to be able to fix small problems without brute forcing the packages (which almost never solves anything, just makes it harder to fix later) |
| 19:20.42 | brosioz | hi, i have iptables v1.2.7a on my router, how can i store all rules to a file ? |
| 19:20.47 | vikki | Yeah, i decided to go from stable to testing to be a bit daring... i'm not sure if i regret it or not now ; ) |
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| 19:21.00 | LSorensen | brosioz: iptables-store? |
| 19:21.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: hahahaha fish fillets is TEH FUN! try it when badly not sober, or on other drugs |
| 19:21.08 | LSorensen | brosioz: er -save that is |
| 19:21.25 | exobyte | I compiled a new 2.4 kernel, but when it boots, I get an error that it can't find modules.dep for that specific kernel, but I'm pretty sure it's there |
| 19:21.32 | bazboo | LSorensen: I disagree about your views on forcing things. The times I used it never created any damage. But, that's fine, different people do things differently. |
| 19:21.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: hhe .. ok |
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| 19:21.42 | brosioz | i've write the version because i don't have |
| 19:21.44 | bazboo | vikki: is it playing nice now? |
| 19:21.48 | brosioz | iptables-save |
| 19:21.51 | vikki | bazboo: hold on, downloading things |
| 19:22.02 | bazboo | vikki: ok |
| 19:22.35 | LSorensen | bazboo: --force-overwrite is just plain insane to use for most problems (and the one people most often try to use). --force-depends on the other hand can do very handy things and doesn't cause a disaster |
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| 19:22.49 | bazboo | LSorensen: I disagree. |
| 19:22.59 | LSorensen | bazboo: then you don't understand the package system in debian |
| 19:23.10 | bazboo | LSorensen: I disagree. |
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| 19:23.18 | Kerr | LSorensen: I disagree! |
| 19:23.33 | bazboo | LSorensen: There is not a connection between disagreeing with you about --force-overwrite and not understanding the package system. |
| 19:23.36 | Kerr | >.> ... not that i've any idea either way. |
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| 19:24.05 | pisco | hello it does not detect the network card to me |
| 19:24.18 | pisco | samsung SC1200A-TX REV 2A bk41-10053p |
| 19:24.25 | pisco | please help me |
| 19:24.40 | vikki | Guys, guys, I didn't mean to start a debate : P |
| 19:24.54 | bazboo | vikki: you didn't |
| 19:25.04 | kapal | pisco have you checked whether its supported by kernel? |
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| 19:25.26 | LSorensen | bazboo: when you use --force-overwrite, multiple packages claim to own the same file. What is it supposed to do when you uninstall one of them? |
| 19:25.35 | pisco | somebody had the same porfavor problem... not to be spoken ingles much and in the good channel # debian-es... nonencounter aid |
| 19:25.39 | abrotman | LSorensen: break horribly |
| 19:25.41 | abrotman | !overwrite |
| 19:25.41 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-overwrite is because the package you are trying to install has files which exist in another package and does not conflict with the other package. This is *ALWAYS* a bug. Make sure a bug is filed (ask me about <bts>). If there isn't one, use reportbug to report it. Then install using the following: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <packagename> |
| 19:25.58 | vikki | eugh it's all messed up |
| 19:26.01 | abrotman | pisco: did you ask google ? |
| 19:26.05 | pisco | kapal, yes kernelversion 2.4 |
| 19:26.11 | pisco | abrotman, yes |
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| 19:26.28 | bazboo | vikki: what's the problem now? |
| 19:26.46 | abrotman | pisco: paste the output of `lspci ; lspci -n` somewhere |
| 19:26.47 | abrotman | !paste |
| 19:26.48 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 19:26.52 | pisco | encontre codig to compile but hurls error to me |
| 19:26.55 | kapal | pisco: have you insmod'ded or compiled in kernel the approprieate module? |
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| 19:27.06 | maxb | pine-tracker and pine (source) seem to me missing from the amd64 archive. Where should I report that? |
| 19:27.07 | pisco | abrotman, ok |
| 19:27.16 | abrotman | kapal: modprobe |
| 19:27.24 | vikki | there is a command which lists everything installed and it's version: can anyone tell me what it is? |
| 19:27.25 | LSorensen | maxb: amd64 didn't track non-free very well last I checked |
| 19:27.34 | kapal | abortman: right :D |
| 19:27.53 | Kerr | abrotman: My friend likes qmail.. but.. if ispconfig is being angsty, does it matter? i mean, won't it bastardise postfix into some sort of gui anyhow, knocking any learning curve on it's head? |
| 19:27.54 | LSorensen | maxb: until it is fully an official port, I would send a message to the mailing list |
| 19:28.20 | maxb | LSorensen: Oh. In that case... any way to get info on how well it progressing towards being official? |
| 19:28.20 | vikki | bazboo: hold on, let me register my nick |
| 19:28.28 | abrotman | Kerr: what does ispconfig do? |
| 19:28.35 | LSorensen | maxb: I believe it is currently uploading to the master mirror. :) |
| 19:28.47 | pisco | abrotman, samsung semicondutor , inc. unknopw device 8 920 rev 01 |
| 19:28.52 | LSorensen | maxb: meaning: it is currently entering being official |
| 19:29.00 | Kerr | abrotman: automagical/web based hosting control. |
| 19:29.01 | maxb | LSorensen: That's very nice! |
| 19:29.02 | abrotman | pisco: that wasn't what i asked you to do .. i'd like to see it all |
| 19:29.06 | bazboo | vikki: dpkg --audit might help |
| 19:29.10 | abrotman | Kerr: oh .. nfc .. use postfix .. kill qmail |
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| 19:29.15 | athlon | How do I reconfigure my ethernet card? |
| 19:29.16 | LSorensen | maxb: and of course a bunch of architectures disappeared from the main mirror |
| 19:29.26 | abrotman | athlon: to do what? |
| 19:29.26 | Kerr | abrotman: http://www.ispconfig.com/index.htm |
| 19:29.45 | athlon | abrotman to change my settings from dhcp to actually give it an ip address and what not |
| 19:29.47 | maxb | LSorensen: oh? |
| 19:30.00 | pisco | abrotman, this in another PC is near 10 lines but the one of single Ethernet it says that |
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| 19:30.24 | shogunx | athlon check out ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 19:30.26 | nailchipper | abrotman: hey there |
| 19:30.32 | Azar | ok ok I know I am dumb how do I unpack a tar ? |
| 19:30.33 | jason_ | abrotman, okay |
| 19:30.56 | kapal | im fighting with postfix, to block my host being an openrely - ive tried to configure smtpauth.. but either i get no mail sending or unauthorized mail sending - i couldnt congfigure it to authorize users - can anyone help? |
| 19:31.07 | Azar | untar? |
| 19:31.15 | streuner | Azar: /msg dpkg tar |
| 19:31.25 | Azar | ok streuner thanks |
| 19:31.28 | athlon | shogunx was kinda looking for like a "setup eth0 command or somthing to that nature |
| 19:31.46 | shogunx | ifconfig athlon |
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| 19:32.33 | pisco | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:33.18 | nonix4 | kapal: Hmm... from being open relay to your *own* clients or the world in general? Do you happen to be in a scenario where just simply firewalling it off is not enough? |
| 19:33.23 | Zodo | Anyone have a recommended, non borked apt mirror? |
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| 19:33.58 | bazboo | Zodo: location? |
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| 19:34.06 | Zodo | SF Bay Area. |
| 19:34.12 | dvm1981 | apt-setup |
| 19:34.17 | LSorensen | maxb: there are only the popular architectures left on the main mirror |
| 19:34.20 | bazboo | Zodo: mirrors.kernel.org and mirrors2.kernel.org work well for me |
| 19:34.28 | abrotman | nailchipper: hi |
| 19:34.30 | LSorensen | maxb: I had to switch to us.arm.mirror.debian.net for my arm system |
| 19:34.32 | loxley_ | kapal: get sasl working.. google postfix sasl |
| 19:34.37 | bazboo | Zodo: several megabytes per sec out in the central valley, they are in san jose or such |
| 19:34.37 | abrotman | athlon: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 19:34.47 | Zodo | Many thanks. |
| 19:34.49 | bazboo | Zodo: not megabytes, not megabits ;-) |
| 19:34.52 | abrotman | jason_: ? |
| 19:34.55 | kapal | nonix4: i got a messy situation, that i left opened smtp server, ant it was possible to send mails via it freely. Now i blocked it, but i need to use this server as a rely for authorized clients. |
| 19:34.56 | pisco | when I install kernel 2,6 when reinitiating leaves kernel to me panick |
| 19:34.58 | bedouin | the dumping of ppc from the mirrors confused the hell out of me for a half hour or so last night |
| 19:34.58 | bazboo | Zodo: 2 seems to be a bit faster for me |
| 19:35.08 | pisco | pentium mmx 200 mhz |
| 19:35.09 | abrotman | pisco: what is the card model again? |
| 19:35.15 | abrotman | is it even PCI ? |
| 19:35.27 | pisco | abrotman, yes pci |
| 19:35.29 | kapal | loxley_: got it, but think i misconfigured it, cos it doesnt work |
| 19:35.32 | pisco | samsung SC1200A-TX REV 2A bk41-10053p |
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| 19:35.51 | pisco | abrotman, samsung SC1200A-TX REV 2A bk41-10053p |
| 19:36.00 | bazboo | bedouin: that's the usual approach of the mirror team |
| 19:36.16 | bazboo | bedouin: make bizarre change, and let people notice for themselves that it's broken |
| 19:36.19 | exobyte | I got my new kernel to boot, but it has the root password for maintence or ctrl+d to continue prompt, but there isn't a preceding error that I noticed. Ideas? |
| 19:36.23 | kapal | loxley_: shall i paste you main.cf on #flood? |
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| 19:36.51 | pisco | abrotman, help me,hat I do not speak ingles much |
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| 19:37.40 | loxley_ | kapal: sure |
| 19:37.42 | DartWing | hi |
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| 19:38.14 | DartWing | I got a problem with debian netinstall |
| 19:38.21 | DartWing | I am trying to install xchat |
| 19:38.42 | DartWing | it gives an error that it cant because of depedent libperl |
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| 19:38.53 | pisco | abrotman, ? |
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| 19:39.34 | abrotman | pisco: i'm still looking |
| 19:40.15 | Zodo | Say, can F-Prot be used on a router machine to scan all incoming traffic? |
| 19:40.28 | DartWing | wat can I do? |
| 19:40.30 | pisco | abrotman, ok thank you |
| 19:40.30 | abrotman | pisco: if you do `lspci` ... what is the line for the card ? |
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| 19:41.19 | DartWing | anyone got an idea? |
| 19:41.55 | pisco | abrotman, samsung semicondutor , inc. unknopw device 8 920 rev 01 |
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| 19:42.14 | abrotman | pisco: see the first part of the line .. what does it say? |
| 19:42.23 | abrotman | 0000:01:0d.0 ... like that |
| 19:42.38 | DartWing | seems lik libperl5.8: Beror: perl-base (= 5.8.4-8) men 5.8.4-8sarge3 skall installeras |
| 19:42.46 | DartWing | what does this mean? |
| 19:42.53 | abrotman | it's german? |
| 19:42.57 | DartWing | swedish |
| 19:43.00 | AlienX | are there any unofficial sources that are carrying rc packages for gnome 2.14? |
| 19:43.05 | pisco | abrotman, 0000:00:06.0 ethernet controler |
| 19:43.16 | DartWing | I know wat it says but wat does it mean |
| 19:43.28 | DartWing | this is no such package 5.8.4-sarge3 |
| 19:43.39 | DartWing | wat is that bull!:| |
| 19:43.50 | pisco | abrotman,0000:00:06.0 ethernet controler samsung semicondutor , inc. unknopw device 8 920 rev 01 |
| 19:44.01 | pisco | line complet |
| 19:44.02 | DartWing | I assume u know |
| 19:44.13 | DartWing | you are running the debian as well I guess |
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| 19:44.29 | kapal | loxley_ : guess so |
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| 19:44.58 | kapal | loxley_ : created sasldb2 |
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| 19:45.45 | abrotman | pisco: now if you `lspci -n | grep 06.0` ... .. what do you get |
| 19:45.58 | Mr-R | DartWing: you did an aptitude update before? |
| 19:46.25 | DartWing | yes |
| 19:46.32 | DartWing | I have done that |
| 19:46.45 | DartWing | abrotman: but still not working |
| 19:47.33 | abrotman | DartWing: huh? |
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| 19:47.53 | DartWing | abrotman: and another thing someone said that one can modify gnome settings in /etc/x11/config |
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| 19:48.01 | DartWing | there is no such directory or file |
| 19:48.06 | pisco | abrotman, 0000:00:00.0 0600 10b9:1531 (rev b3) |
| 19:48.07 | kapal | loxley_ :what do you need to congfigure in sasl? |
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| 19:48.24 | DartWing | abrotman: I am trying to install xchat |
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| 19:48.31 | pisco | abrotman, 0000:00:00.0 0200 10c3:8920 (rev 01) |
| 19:48.39 | pisco | it 2 lines |
| 19:48.49 | DartWing | abrotman: it is clear that there is an error due to some package confiligt |
| 19:48.56 | jetscreamer | /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or XF86Config-4) caps matter |
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| 19:49.10 | jetscreamer | apt-get install xchat no workee? |
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| 19:49.25 | loxley_ | kapal: hmmm, you can set it auth against pam, mysql, sasldb it depends. |
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| 19:49.47 | kapal | loxley_ : i think im using sasldb |
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| 19:50.19 | kapal | loxley_ :got confused while installing it, tried some options, maby i messed sth up |
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| 19:51.12 | Vinlanda | does one have to pay for geo ip? |
| 19:51.26 | unstable | Vinlanda: no |
| 19:51.45 | Vinlanda | is there a pay version and a free version? |
| 19:51.47 | unstable | Vinlanda: They can't charge...it's not even their service...it's google's. |
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| 19:51.53 | Vinlanda | oh |
| 19:51.56 | unstable | It's just a hack using google's map api |
| 19:52.18 | Vinlanda | I see, I'm just having problems getting the geoip thing to work with awstats |
| 19:52.37 | unstable | Are you talking about something debian related...because I'm not |
| 19:52.41 | athlon | quick question, If I have two machines running Distcc. if I have a second nic card in one machine and plug the two computers in lan card to lan card I can tell distcc to use that nic to access the other pc to work together correct? |
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| 19:53.06 | Vinland | unstable - its not debian related |
| 19:53.07 | pisco | abrotman, :( |
| 19:54.00 | loxley_ | kapal: when setting up the user with saslpasswd don't forget to add the correct realm |
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| 19:54.30 | kapal | loxley_ :what do you mean `realm' |
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| 19:55.17 | loxley_ | kapal: read this http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/sasldb_configuration.html |
| 19:55.23 | unstable | If you want to play tetris, apt-get install gtetrinet; then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 19:55.30 | abrotman | !which driver |
| 19:55.30 | dpkg | Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver supports your device. |
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| 19:55.53 | abrotman | pisco: wrong lines |
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| 19:56.07 | DartWing | I have had it with debian |
| 19:56.12 | pisco | abrotman, por? |
| 19:56.14 | unstable | abrotman: How can I copy dpkg and bring it into another channel? |
| 19:56.17 | abrotman | DartWing: are you using sarge ? |
| 19:56.17 | DartWing | anyone know how to uninstall grub? |
| 19:56.22 | abrotman | !tell unstable about your factoids |
| 19:56.28 | pisco | abrotman, 0000:00:00.0 0200 10c3:8920 (rev 01) |
| 19:56.30 | pisco | abrotman, 0000:00:00.0 0600 10b9:1531 (rev b3) |
| 19:56.32 | athlon | quick question, If I have two machines running Distcc. if I have a second nic card in one machine and plug the two computers in lan card to lan card I can tell distcc to use that nic to access the other pc to work together correct? |
| 19:56.35 | abrotman | pisco: i need the one that matches 0000:00:06.0 |
| 19:56.41 | DartWing | to get my xp portion safe |
| 19:56.48 | bernardo_ | How do i configure a keyboard on debian? |
| 19:56.48 | abrotman | it's fine |
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| 19:56.59 | kapal | loxley_ : thanks.. i think i understand now, ill try to fix it... |
| 19:57.51 | pisco | abrotman, 0000:00:06.0 0200 10c3:8920 (rev 01) |
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| 19:58.16 | pisco | sorry |
| 19:58.27 | abrotman | pisco: there's nothing for your card in that database .. try asking #kernel .. see if they know how to make it work |
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| 19:58.52 | athlon | anybody familiar with network-console-config? I installed it and not sure how to use it |
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| 19:59.40 | pisco | abrotman, install kernel 2,6 but.es leaves kernel to me panick for that reason attempt to make recognize it with kernel 2,4... a pentium mmx 200mhz |
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| 20:00.19 | plb | anyone tell me how to get sound working from mplayer in a 32bit chroot? |
| 20:00.41 | abrotman | pisco: try to redo the install .. but do a `linux26` when the installer starts |
| 20:00.51 | nicolas__ | is there a special debian channel for sarge debugging ? |
| 20:01.04 | athlon | anybody familiar with network-console-config? I installed it and not sure how to use it |
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| 20:01.10 | abrotman | etherconf ? |
| 20:01.17 | abrotman | nicolas__: here? |
| 20:01.18 | pisco | ok |
| 20:01.30 | danboid | I installed kanotix on a friends A64 machine today but forgot to update the kernel. I think the standard kanotix kernel is i586 optimised so will this not be able to take advantage of all the mencoder k7 features (sse2/sse3)? |
| 20:01.47 | abrotman | danboid: wrong channel |
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| 20:02.03 | abrotman | !kanotix |
| 20:02.03 | dpkg | hmm... kanotix is not Debian, and we can't help you. Go /join #kanotix, or such a big fan of debian, it has sources for woody, sarge AND sid in sources.list (sid default) |
| 20:02.45 | danboid | abrotman: tried the mplayer and kanotix channels already- anywhere else i could try? |
| 20:02.47 | athlon | abrotman, I installed network-console-config do you now how to run it? |
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| 20:03.25 | nicolas__ | abrotman: ok, im using rhythmbox within xfce (problem also occur within gnome) and as i drag the "time switch" in a way or another rhythmbox totally crash :P |
| 20:03.59 | nicolas__ | by time switch i mean, that button scrolling while the song is playing you know |
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| 20:06.02 | unstable | danboid: Just format your computer with debian and we'll support you and it will work. |
| 20:06.11 | nicolas__ | by the way do you support gnome? |
| 20:06.21 | plb | hrm /part |
| 20:06.23 | plb | er |
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| 20:06.46 | srw | I'm trying to correct the ACPI for my laptop. Trying to build kernel from the debian linux source package -- how do I reproduce the .config or trigger the normal build of this package? |
| 20:07.21 | nicolas__ | srw: make menuconfig |
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| 20:08.01 | unstable | srw: cp /boot/config /usr/src/linux |
| 20:08.26 | pisco | abrotman, the network card does not detect kernel26 either to me |
| 20:08.36 | srw | nicholas_: that gets me the debian defaults ? _ assume I pulled them from the control? |
| 20:08.40 | nicolas__ | unstable: this way you can build a kernel with the same options as the generic one ? |
| 20:08.50 | nicolas__ | wow |
| 20:08.52 | unstable | srw: ie "cp /boot/config-2.6.15-1-686 /usr/src/linux/.config" |
| 20:09.03 | pisco | abrotman, I am reinstalando debian sarge..y at moment for detecting the network card does not recognize it |
| 20:09.03 | unstable | nicolas__: I'm answering his question. |
| 20:09.36 | srw | unstable: cheers -- I always forget - I always look in /proc :( |
| 20:09.43 | nicolas__ | why dont you say yes or no |
| 20:09.51 | danboid | unstable: well, apart from a patched kernel, kanotix is debian, right? |
| 20:10.32 | danboid | is based upon, i shudda sed |
| 20:10.34 | nicolas__ | danboid: no |
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| 20:11.20 | nicolas__ | danboid: nobody here supports "base-upon debian" software |
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| 20:12.12 | nicolas__ | nicolas__: if the kanotix dudes arent able to give you help, this distro isnt worth it |
| 20:12.25 | nicolas__ | s/nicolas__/danboid |
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| 20:12.48 | danboid | they're at cebit, the hardcore (kano and slh) |
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| 20:13.04 | nicolas__ | danboid: nobody here cares |
| 20:13.15 | danboid | kano can normally answer anything about linux |
| 20:13.20 | nicolas__ | danboid: everyone just wants you to /part |
| 20:13.59 | danboid | nicolas: you're acting silly now. YOU want me to part |
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| 20:14.36 | nicolas__ | nicolas__: well, i just trying to help save some time to the moderators |
| 20:14.48 | nicolas__ | danboid: |
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| 20:15.02 | jetscreamer | don't say 'other distro' in #debian |
| 20:15.10 | nicolas__ | sorry |
| 20:15.31 | jetscreamer | they have many factoids in the bot just for knoppix and the like |
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| 20:16.00 | Kerr | abrotman: is it possible to have qmail continue to run and take care of things already set up, and postfix work with ispconfig? |
| 20:16.14 | jetscreamer | jsut ask in the correct channel |
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| 20:17.05 | InnerFIRE | hrm |
| 20:17.19 | danboid | so does everybody get a kicking who mentions even debian based distros in here? U****u I can understand- kanotix and knoppix should be regarded as 'good guys' in here- no? |
| 20:17.20 | InnerFIRE | can someone explain to me why system accounts in debian all have valid shells ? |
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| 20:18.00 | nicolas__ | danboid: even if its the case, nobody will help you unless you use debian |
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| 20:19.10 | jetscreamer | !knoppix |
| 20:19.10 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. |
| 20:19.14 | jetscreamer | !ubuntu |
| 20:19.14 | dpkg | from memory, ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian.. |
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| 20:19.25 | jetscreamer | any questions? |
| 20:19.52 | Gnea | jetscreamer: heh, apparantly, it's considered to be a "bad attitude" to use the bot like that to point out facts |
| 20:20.15 | pindonga | can anybody please explain to me why apt-get gpg certificates get broken more or less monthly? (and how can I make them work this time? -- deleting it and re-fetching doesnt seem to work) |
| 20:20.32 | nicolas__ | Gnea: i find it pretty cool |
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| 20:20.54 | Gnea | nicolas__: oh so do i |
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| 20:21.03 | jetscreamer | pindonga: i 'think' that this time it is an error. i also 'think' that it's yearly, or supposed to be. (they have dates, but only the year) but i'm not sure |
| 20:21.24 | greench | hello :) i`ve one stupid question :) when extract the src example in /usr/test , config and install may i delete the dir (/usr/test) |
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| 20:22.18 | InnerFIRE | greench: as long as the executable or config isn't in /usr/test |
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| 20:22.21 | Gnea | greench: usually, yes. the source will usually have some sort of documentation with it (a README, INSTALL, TODO files or a doc/ or docs/ directory) that will explain it for that particular program |
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| 20:22.58 | Gnea | greench: and that's not a stupid question :) |
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| 20:23.56 | greench | ok thanks :) |
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| 20:24.42 | Kerr | O.o |
| 20:25.02 | Kovi | I have some difficulties with grub in debain sarge, can anyone help me? |
| 20:25.14 | Kerr | danboid: If it's ok to get support from debian for kanotix because it's based on debian; then follow your flawed logic further. Go take your box to SCO and ask -them- for support. After all, they won't argue that Linux is based on Unix. |
| 20:25.45 | greench | Kovi say your poblem :) |
| 20:25.59 | greench | problem` |
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| 20:26.29 | abrotman | Kerr: doubtful |
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| 20:26.48 | Kovi | greench: I've installed debian sarge with the default kernel: 2.4.27, and it worked fine, but I made a new kernel image: the newest stable 2.6 |
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| 20:27.12 | Kovi | I made the needed changes in the grub's config file and I can't boot that image |
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| 20:27.40 | Kovi | I used the same settings for it than with the default 2.4, except, the initrd setting |
| 20:27.48 | Kerr | abrotman: I hope i don't have to look in to virtual machines.. It all seems like far too much work. |
| 20:27.54 | nicolas__ | Kovi: how come you cant boot that image? |
| 20:28.00 | abrotman | Kerr: just drop qmail . it's a really really bad MTA :) |
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| 20:28.01 | nicolas__ | is there an error message? |
| 20:28.14 | Gnea | Kovi: you'll need some special utilities installed for 2.6 to work |
| 20:28.20 | nicolas__ | Kovi: its and image made from source? |
| 20:28.25 | Kovi | it says: VFS: Cannot open root device "hda3" or unknown_block(0,0) |
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| 20:28.51 | Gnea | Kovi: your best bet is to install a kernel-image-2.6 package and let it install what it needs, then go back and edit the grub configs again - it should boot fine then |
| 20:28.52 | Kovi | and it stops with a kernel panic message |
| 20:29.16 | nicolas__ | Kovi: you havent compiled your kernel with the filesystem support you use on your hda3 |
| 20:29.37 | Gnea | nicolas__: more than likely, he doesn't have module-init-tools installed |
| 20:29.40 | GFDL | Kovi, initrd... |
| 20:30.06 | Kovi | I think the problem could be rooted in the initrd, because the only difrence in the grub configuration of the 2.4 and the 2.6 kernel is the initrd setting |
| 20:30.18 | GFDL | Kovi, you didn't build the initrd |
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| 20:30.29 | Gnea | Kovi: apt-get install module-init-tools |
| 20:30.41 | nicolas__ | Kovi: is it made from source? |
| 20:31.00 | Gnea | Kovi: unless you require some special scsi or sata modules, you probably don't even need initrd |
| 20:31.03 | Kovi | yeah I build the kernel from source I got from kernel.org |
| 20:31.14 | Kovi | I don't use scsi / sata |
| 20:31.26 | nicolas__ | Kovi: at least get it from apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 20:31.29 | Gnea | ok then you probably just need module-init-tools, like i said |
| 20:31.31 | abrotman | Kerr: check with your friend .. but really qmail is a royal pain .. or you could learn how to manage it with vi :) |
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| 20:31.46 | Gnea | !qmail |
| 20:31.46 | dpkg | [qmail] a non-free (it's illegal to distribute modified binaries) MTA by djb, or http://www.qmail.org/, or for good getting-started docs see LWQ: http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html, or an MTA that insists on having 3.4 million configuration files spread throughout the filesystem. for reasons why you shouldn't use qmail, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2004/02/msg00179.html or http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html |
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| 20:32.38 | InnerFIRE | eww qmail.. never try spam filtering with qmail |
| 20:33.30 | GFDL | InnerFIRE, why not |
| 20:33.31 | abrotman | s/spam filtering// |
| 20:33.33 | Gnea | i get the best performance with exim4+sa-exim+spamassassin |
| 20:33.37 | Kovi | GFDL: how can I build initrd? I used linux 2 years ago and the I had a woody, and had no problems, I think initrd could cause this |
| 20:33.56 | maxxle | Hi! I have a wireless connection running in my notebook. I get an IP using dhcp. The dhcp-offer I get is 192.168.100.X. But ifconfig for the interface tells me 169.254.X.Y. Restarting the network does not help. |
| 20:34.05 | InnerFIRE | GFDL: because it can't refuse rcpt.. only bounce |
| 20:34.06 | Gnea | GFDL: there are urls that dpkg just posted, check 'em out |
| 20:34.08 | abrotman | can't get a good lease |
| 20:34.40 | InnerFIRE | GFDL: so your queue gets buried with several thousand messages going nowhere |
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| 20:34.59 | GFDL | Kovi, last time I built my kernel I did mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15.1 2.6.15.1 |
| 20:35.07 | GFDL | Kovi, adjust to your sources accordingly |
| 20:35.12 | stew | maxxle: your card has more than one ip address, running "ip addr" will list them all |
| 20:35.38 | Kovi | ok |
| 20:35.39 | Kovi | thx |
| 20:35.45 | Kovi | I'll try these tips |
| 20:35.46 | Kovi | bye |
| 20:35.48 | maxxle | stew: Oh! You're right. I thought this is only possible as ath0:0. How can I get rid of the second one? |
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| 20:36.06 | GFDL | InnerFIRE, bernstain claims there are no bug in his software. does he lie? |
| 20:36.21 | stew | maxxle: if addr del 1.2.3.4 dev ath0 |
| 20:36.42 | Kerr | abrotman: I'm not elite enough for vi. Every shell i get i set EDITOR and VISUAL to nano :-P |
| 20:36.44 | stew | s/if/ip/ |
| 20:36.46 | InnerFIRE | bugs ? no.. it does what it was designed to so without any known exploits |
| 20:36.51 | maxxle | stew: Is this a permanent solution? I even don't know where this address comes from |
| 20:37.01 | InnerFIRE | I'd call it more of a serious design problem |
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| 20:37.11 | GFDL | Gnea, those links posted by dpkg are great reading thanks! |
| 20:37.12 | stew | maxxle: no that is not permanant |
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| 20:37.23 | stew | maxxle: it likely came from you installing the zeroconf package |
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| 20:37.30 | abrotman | Kerr: ok .. well whatever .. you'll find most prefer postfix or exim |
| 20:37.58 | InnerFIRE | GFDL: I used to be a major qmail fan.. as an outgoing mail server it's unmatched |
| 20:38.14 | InnerFIRE | but it's bounce messages leave much to be desired |
| 20:38.15 | goron | How do I mount a digital camera which I think has a fat32 fs? When I connect the camera it doesn't give a device name, just usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3. |
| 20:38.34 | ikks | goron lsusb |
| 20:38.41 | ikks | what does it show? |
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| 20:38.46 | maxxle | stew: You're right. Aptitude tells me that it got installed (A)utomatically. I will remove it. Thx! |
| 20:38.47 | GFDL | goron, is the vfat kernel module compiled and loaded |
| 20:38.47 | liable | goron: see if its supported by gphoto2 |
| 20:38.48 | goron | Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04a9:30c1 Canon, Inc. |
| 20:39.04 | InnerFIRE | goron: cannons are not mountable |
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| 20:39.06 | goron | GFDL: yes |
| 20:39.07 | ivalladt | how to know if an .avi or .mpg file is using PAL or NTSC? |
| 20:39.19 | goron | InnerFIRE: Hmm, that's bad. |
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| 20:39.27 | stew | maxxle: do you know what package caused it to be installed? |
| 20:39.31 | nicolas__ | goron: normally you have a setting on your camera for webcam and sd card or something |
| 20:39.32 | goron | InnerFIRE: They use some prop. system? |
| 20:39.34 | InnerFIRE | goron: theres a tool you need to use to read the pics |
| 20:39.41 | InnerFIRE | I'm trying to remember what it was |
| 20:39.42 | InnerFIRE | one sec |
| 20:39.45 | liable | goron: see if its supported by gphoto2 |
| 20:39.47 | goron | InnerFIRE: ty |
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| 20:39.55 | goron | liable: ok |
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| 20:40.13 | maxxle | stew: No. I upgraded my box some time ago. There were a lot of updates. |
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| 20:40.38 | stew | maxxle: you aren't the first person to report this but nobody has yet told us why zeroconf is getting installed |
| 20:40.48 | DrPete | anyone used win4lin? |
| 20:40.51 | InnerFIRE | goron: try gtkam |
| 20:41.08 | goron | InnerFIRE: Ok, I just installed it. |
| 20:41.10 | maxxle | stew: And there is no way to backtrace it? |
| 20:41.21 | InnerFIRE | oops gphoto2 --get-all-files |
| 20:41.45 | stew | maxxle: actually it looks like kde now depends on it |
| 20:41.49 | stew | (indirectly) |
| 20:41.51 | InnerFIRE | that's what I used for my friend's canon camera |
| 20:41.57 | stew | so great this is going to be coming up constantly |
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| 20:42.25 | maxxle | stew: I don't have installed the whole KDE - just some Lib's. |
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| 20:42.55 | InnerFIRE | hrm |
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| 20:43.01 | goron | InnerFIRE: So the only thing you can do is get all the files? |
| 20:43.09 | InnerFIRE | goron: you can list the files too |
| 20:43.14 | goron | InnerFIRE: It seems the camera is supported though. |
| 20:43.18 | InnerFIRE | and upload AFIK but I never tried it |
| 20:43.30 | goron | InnerFIRE: I just want it not to delete any photos. |
| 20:43.32 | stew | !dbugs 307480 |
| 20:43.35 | dpkg | #307480:W[zeroconf] zeroconf: Please make zeroconf IP address secondary; Tue, 3 May 2005 13:18:02 UTC |
| 20:43.48 | InnerFIRE | goron: it doesn't delete by default |
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| 20:44.10 | plb | erm do you still need alsa if you have esd working? |
| 20:44.11 | maxxle | stew: Ah I see... it's well known here. |
| 20:44.17 | stew | maxxle: do you have avahi-daemon installed? |
| 20:44.23 | azeem | plb: you need either OSS or ALSA |
| 20:44.29 | plb | thanks |
| 20:44.40 | InnerFIRE | goron: to be honest I prefer pulling out the CF card and using a usb flash reader |
| 20:44.46 | plb | hrm I see no init script to have it load on startup |
| 20:45.04 | goron | InnerFIRE: I can imagine. I don't have such a reader. |
| 20:45.06 | stew | maxxle: it looks like a bunch of gnome stuff depends on it as well |
| 20:45.12 | abrotman | it does |
| 20:45.40 | maxxle | stew: Yes. Got it installed (A)uto |
| 20:45.51 | goron | InnerFIRE: Ok, listing files works. |
| 20:45.56 | plb | how do you get esd started at boot? |
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| 20:46.25 | nvz | plb: you dont |
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| 20:46.53 | plb | hm ok |
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| 20:47.01 | srw | Oh no the certificate of authenticity for Windows 98 just pealed off my laptop ;) |
| 20:47.03 | maxxle | stw: Maybe it has something to do with cups? |
| 20:47.06 | stew | maybe this zeroconf mess will make people get wise to /bin/ip ! |
| 20:47.27 | nvz | plb: you would start it as your user at login via xsession |
| 20:47.39 | Hellkat | Have you guys heard about the Ubuntu Breezy bug? |
| 20:47.52 | nvz | Hellkat: who the hell cares this is #debian |
| 20:47.56 | jelly | Hellkat: a particular one? |
| 20:48.13 | xglwanter | i had a debian well installed and then i have installed another distro in another partition and done some hardware changes but none change in partition table. Now debian say that there is no ext3 filesystem in / partition but i've checked it and all it's ok, any idea on how to fix the problem? |
| 20:48.17 | GFDL | Hellkat, and this channel is not about ubuntu |
| 20:48.22 | Hellkat | nvz- im just making conversation.. and ubuntu is related to debian |
| 20:48.30 | azeem | Hellkat: this is a support channel |
| 20:48.31 | stew | Hellkat: its off-topic in this channel |
| 20:48.41 | Hellkat | whatever |
| 20:48.48 | cahoot | goron: if you don't mind kde digikam will most probably be useful |
| 20:48.49 | nvz | Hellkat: in the same way that your feet are related to french cut green beans |
| 20:48.59 | javiolo | Hellkat what bug ? |
| 20:49.10 | stew | javiolo: ask in #ubuntu |
| 20:49.18 | peritus__ | or read slashdot |
| 20:49.27 | javiolo | ok slashdot then |
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| 20:49.34 | Hellkat | Javiolo- its this file that the installer leaves behind that has all of the user passwords- and its readable by any user |
| 20:49.50 | blaamann | Hellkat: You mean the password written to a file in /var in plain text for every user that do an update :-) |
| 20:50.04 | javiolo | hellkat oh thats why today I had a login a psswd update :P |
| 20:50.07 | Hellkat | blaamann- exactly |
| 20:50.08 | stew | blaamann: Hellkat: please take it to #ubuntu |
| 20:50.14 | GFDL | Hellkat, and this channel is not about ubuntu (I TOLD YOU ONCE) |
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| 20:50.23 | Hellkat | They asked, GFDL |
| 20:50.25 | Hellkat | Ill shut up now |
| 20:50.29 | azeem | Hellkat: so don't answer |
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| 20:50.36 | plb | so if you can't start esd at startup what you just start after you login? |
| 20:50.51 | nvz | plb: yes |
| 20:50.54 | plb | thanks |
| 20:50.55 | goron | cahoot: that's a QT frontend to this tool? |
| 20:51.06 | goron | InnerFIRE: It works. Very nice. |
| 20:51.07 | nvz | plb: usually your session manager or xsession file is where you do that |
| 20:51.14 | cahoot | goron: yes it's qt |
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| 20:51.21 | InnerFIRE | goron: not a problem |
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| 20:51.35 | Hellkat | You guys should become admins, punishing someone for talking about a different distrobution like that, |
| 20:51.35 | goron | cahoot: I don't mind it being qt. I have all the libs on my system. |
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| 20:52.13 | Peterken | Good afternoon all, i just added a SATAII disc to my desktop (not formatted), How can i format the disk with ext3 now? |
| 20:52.33 | cahoot | goron: well it handles all three canons I've tested |
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| 20:53.40 | goron | cahoot: Why don't Canon's support mounting? |
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| 20:54.03 | curt | !format |
| 20:54.03 | dpkg | hmm... format is probably what you should do to your Windows(tm) box, or what you should do to your MacOS box, or what you should do to your LinuxPPC box, or what you should do to your RedHat box, or what you should do to your Mandrake box, or what you should do to your SuSE box |
| 20:54.21 | cahoot | goron: they're not keen on linux support in any filed |
| 20:54.28 | cahoot | field |
| 20:54.28 | goron | cahoot: Or is it just that nobody on the Linux side wrote a backend for mouny. |
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| 20:54.36 | Peterken | how do you call it then curt ? |
| 20:54.40 | curt | !tell Peterken -about grounding |
| 20:54.46 | Peterken | tnx curt |
| 20:54.46 | goron | cahoot: Olympus works, though. |
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| 20:55.00 | goron | cahoot: that works just via plain usb. |
| 20:55.15 | goron | I am not sure whether it's supported though. |
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| 20:55.43 | curt | Peterken, I don't want to give out just enough of anything for you to break your box. |
| 20:55.53 | xglwanter | i had a debian well installed and then i have installed another distro in another partition and done some hardware changes but none change in partition table. Now debian say that there is no ext3 filesystem in / partition but i've checked it and all it's ok, any idea on how to fix the problem? |
| 20:56.29 | InnerFIRE | goron: Cannons don't export a filesystem AFIK |
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| 20:56.35 | mike4479 | Can anyone help me please I can't get my wireless PCMCIA card to startup on boot up? |
| 20:56.49 | InnerFIRE | just USB calls for preforming certain file ops |
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| 20:57.13 | stew | mike4479: make sure the driver is listed in /etc/modules, and make sure it's setup as "auto" in interfaces ; man 7 wireless ; man 5 interfaces |
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| 20:57.32 | stew | Peterken: man cfdisk; man mkfs.ext3 |
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| 20:57.55 | InnerFIRE | goron: I'm guessing it's to prevent fs corruption that would come from having the FS mounted at the same time your taking pictures |
| 20:57.57 | stew | xglwanter: what exactly does it say about / and when does it say it? |
| 20:58.14 | mike4479 | Stew: I think the problemis it is not in interfaces at all what do i put in there for it I use dhcp? |
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| 20:58.47 | stew | mike4479: read man 7 wireless and man 5 interfaces and /msg dpkg man interfaces |
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| 20:59.24 | KerPlunk | I did apt-cache search tetris, and I get probably 30 results...what is a good standalone tetris game that I don't need to connect to the internet to play? |
| 20:59.31 | mike4479 | stew: ok thanks man |
| 20:59.38 | stew | KerPlunk: m-x tetris in emacs works |
| 20:59.51 | chealer | hehe |
| 21:00.07 | curt | stew is on a roll |
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| 21:00.14 | jelly | KerPlunk: the original tetris for DOS under dosbox? |
| 21:00.20 | fresh_oyster | KerPlunk : tetris-bsd is ascii |
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| 21:00.46 | goron | cahoot: digikam does not detect the camera. |
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| 21:01.27 | Coszmin | can dedbian run on a dual Xeon 3ghz , 64 bit setup ? |
| 21:01.33 | maxxle | I try to figure out if this is a bug. If I get a new grub-package grub creates a new menu.lst. The original-File gets not saved as I can see. |
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| 21:01.35 | Coszmin | and if so , which distro do i nee ? |
| 21:01.36 | xglwanter | stew: it says "VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda1" and after 3 more errors makes kernel panic, that's at bootup |
| 21:02.03 | stew | xglwanter: can you fsck the partition from the other distro? |
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| 21:02.10 | aethera | hey guys |
| 21:02.22 | aethera | quick question does debian sarge support mono? |
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| 21:02.56 | GFDL | aethera, yes |
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| 21:03.07 | Coszmin | what about dual xeon 64 bit ? |
| 21:03.24 | cahoot | goron: using udev? member of plugdev in that case? |
| 21:03.30 | xglwanter | stew: yes, i did it from another distro and there is no errors, can it be hardware changes? i taked an scsi controller and scsi cdr and putted a new ide cdrw |
| 21:03.39 | DrPete | http://mark.linuxworld.com/xen_running_windows_with_win4lin.htm |
| 21:04.01 | DrPete | whoops, sorry, wrong window |
| 21:04.07 | goron | cahoot: udev is not loaded, but I thought I was using it. |
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| 21:04.16 | jelly | Coszmin: should work, under either amd64 (64bit) or i386 architectures. |
| 21:04.21 | stew | maxxle: its not a bug. why did you edit menu.lst? to add new kernels? or to alter the existing entries? |
| 21:04.24 | goron | cahoot: I am not familiar with plugdev. |
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| 21:04.31 | vhuren | drwxrwsr-x |
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| 21:04.42 | vhuren | if I have a directory with those permissions what is it 766? |
| 21:04.57 | Coszmin | jelly - > under both ? so i386 has 64 bit support and AMD is compatible with ? |
| 21:05.00 | stew | xglwanter: the other distro boots off a different partition on the same drive? or a different drive entirely? |
| 21:05.09 | fernandokts | hi! do anyone knows if there is it possible to turn on and off a monitor by shell comands??? |
| 21:05.21 | maxxle | stew: I added new entries AND I altered the existing ones. In my opinion it is a bug that a) There is no menu.lst.dpkg and b) my Entries get deleted without asking. |
| 21:05.22 | xglwanter | xglwanter: on another partition on the same drive |
| 21:05.28 | fernandokts | woops sorry |
| 21:05.38 | fernandokts | hi! do anyone knows if it is possible to turn on and off a monitor by shell comands??? |
| 21:05.47 | aethera | GFDL are you running it? |
| 21:05.50 | jelly | Coszmin: no. i386 is 32bit only. amd64 has support for x86-64 compatible CPUs (Intel's and AMD's) |
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| 21:05.56 | xglwanter | stew: : on another partition on the same drive |
| 21:06.04 | goron | fernandokts: hmm, monitors don't have such an interface (at least not that I know of). |
| 21:06.15 | elfredo | fernandokts not really sure, best tip from me would be to check out DPMS docs |
| 21:06.26 | Coszmin | jelly - > kewl then , so it's amd64 i should be looking at |
| 21:06.27 | fernandokts | thanks |
| 21:06.28 | Coszmin | thanx |
| 21:06.53 | GFDL | aethera, no, I've just done an apt-cache search mono on my testing box |
| 21:07.06 | xglwanter | stew: the other distro installed a new grub in mbr but grub is well configurated i think |
| 21:07.08 | stew | maxxle: you are told in the file that they will be lost. if you need to add new kernels make sure you add them after the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST, if you need to alter existing entries created by update-grub, do it by editing #kopt lines |
| 21:07.12 | fernandokts | that's because linux give a command to turn off monitor when the user doesn´t do anything in some time |
| 21:07.37 | elfredo | fernandokts yeah DPMS does that, i just do not know if there are shell tools for it |
| 21:07.41 | nicolas__ | does anyone has an argument to his preference of thunderbird or evolution ? |
| 21:07.54 | stew | maxxle: this wasn't done by dpkg/debconf, and it is not considered a conf file which is why you wouldn't see a menu.list.dpkg-dist or whatever |
| 21:08.16 | GFDL | nicolas__, evolution is an outlook express clon, I hate outlook express, so I use thunderbird |
| 21:08.20 | goron | Hmm, the stupid camera goes off before I have the last file extracted from it... |
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| 21:08.25 | stew | xglwanter: maybe the new grub can't find the initrd to boot the kernel on hda1? |
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| 21:08.42 | nicolas__ | GFDL: hrm, to me they look exactly the same |
| 21:08.53 | goron | What can I do about that? |
| 21:08.57 | fernandokts | elfredo: that's ok! I´m gonna read more about it. Thanx for the help |
| 21:08.57 | xglwanter | xglwanter: no, the initrd charges correctly |
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| 21:09.14 | GFDL | nicolas__, really... uh.. odd. |
| 21:09.15 | xglwanter | stew: : no, the initrd charges correctly |
| 21:09.20 | ansong | nicolas__, um, neither, i use kmail. i used to use thunderbird, switched to evolution, and now kmail. it makes more sense after using it awhile |
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| 21:09.46 | ansong | GFDL, isn't evolution an Outlook clone? what with the exchange plugin and all |
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| 21:11.10 | GFDL | ansong, I claim exactly the opposite: Evolution *is* an outlook clone. nicolas__ claims thunderbird is also an outlook express clon |
| 21:11.22 | maxxle | stew: I checked the file. It's as you said! I think it's not a bug, I will find a solution for myself. Thx for your help. |
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| 21:12.03 | stew | maxxle: read about the #kopt and #kopt_$version lines in that file |
| 21:12.14 | maxxle | stew: Yes I saw them! |
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| 21:12.44 | stew | maxxle: your other option it to handle it all manually (not recommended) by removing update-grub from /etc/kernel-img.conf |
| 21:13.06 | aethera | can one do xgl on sarge? |
| 21:13.12 | abrotman | hahaah |
| 21:13.23 | abrotman | aethera: if you do all the compiling yourself .. maybe |
| 21:13.35 | aethera | hmmm |
| 21:13.36 | abrotman | aethera: i'm not aware of any xorg7 backports yet .. |
| 21:13.46 | aethera | I dont really want to do that |
| 21:13.53 | abrotman | you can wait ... |
| 21:13.56 | aethera | but then again I go use gentoo |
| 21:13.57 | aethera | :P |
| 21:14.02 | aethera | but debain is so nice |
| 21:14.04 | aethera | :< |
| 21:14.10 | aethera | debian even |
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| 21:14.19 | abrotman | if 6.9 can do xgl .. there's a backport for xorg6.9 |
| 21:14.29 | maxxle | stew: Ok! |
| 21:14.41 | blondie | what is wrong with this line in sshd_config: |
| 21:14.42 | blondie | AllowUsers alex ferret zotnix root@one.xelam.net |
| 21:14.52 | abrotman | blondie: what's the error? :) |
| 21:15.01 | abrotman | isn't ferret a gentoo guy? |
| 21:15.04 | blondie | "User root not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers" -- trying to login as root from one.xelam.net |
| 21:15.10 | blondie | abrotman: maybe! |
| 21:15.13 | ansong | no problem |
| 21:15.22 | abrotman | blondie: maybe rdns is showing something different? |
| 21:15.23 | blondie | but that's a debian box of mine :p |
| 21:15.43 | ansong | incidentally, i just tried /nick'ing to zotnix, and got told the nick is already in use |
| 21:15.56 | blondie | abrotman: it's not, and I've tried the IP too :\ |
| 21:17.22 | abrotman | blondie: is AllowRootLogin set to yes? |
| 21:17.35 | abrotman | or whatever that config is |
| 21:17.35 | Oste^^ | How do I copy an entire lib of files (about 300 files), where the new copies will have the letters thb followed by a _ in front of the original names? |
| 21:17.41 | blondie | no it's set it to "PermitRootLogin without-password" |
| 21:17.44 | abrotman | man rename ? |
| 21:17.55 | liable | does allowusers override allowrootlogin=no? |
| 21:17.56 | madclicker | anyone using an isp based mailserver on sarge? |
| 21:17.59 | blondie | but that's not what it's complaining about |
| 21:18.07 | liable | oh.. |
| 21:18.26 | abrotman | madclicker: a what? |
| 21:18.30 | dn4 | when I do m-a a-i nvidia I get an error saying failed, maybe should add contrib and such to the source.list |
| 21:18.35 | abrotman | yes |
| 21:18.44 | madclicker | abrotman, an isp type mailserver |
| 21:18.48 | abrotman | blondie: when you connect ... what does it show you connecting as |
| 21:18.55 | abrotman | madclicker: what is an isp type mailserver? |
| 21:19.06 | abrotman | madclicker: you mean .. with like .. an MTA and stuff ? |
| 21:19.23 | blondie | abrotman: according to what? |
| 21:19.29 | abrotman | blondie: logs! |
| 21:19.35 | madclicker | abrotman, that has sql virtual support a veb interface for admins to manage it and so forth |
| 21:19.46 | abrotman | i'm sure many people have |
| 21:19.54 | blondie | abrotman: it only has the line "Mar 13 21:19:44 zero sshd[22891]: User root not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers" |
| 21:20.25 | madclicker | abrotman, i use postfix but it has no debs for any web managment |
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| 21:21.15 | abrotman | madclicker: you can administrate it with 'vi' |
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| 21:21.59 | abrotman | blondie: if you do netstat -a .. what does it show the connection as coming from ? |
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| 21:22.38 | blondie | abrotman: hm, just "one" |
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| 21:23.03 | tknitskitsahcots | Hello. |
| 21:23.05 | reflect | hey, hacim.. if you get the nagios/irc thingie to work, do let me know.. ok? |
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| 21:23.49 | tknitskitsahcots | Question: I tried to install Debian three times now, but it is not able to configure my X-Server... what can I do? |
| 21:23.52 | blondie | abrotman: using just the hostname instead of fqdn fixed it :o |
| 21:24.06 | stew | tknitskitsahcots: be more specific |
| 21:24.08 | maxxle | tknitskitsahcots: Where is the problem? |
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| 21:24.31 | stew | blondie: you mean "@one" instead of "@one.domain.com"? |
| 21:25.25 | tknitskitsahcots | I get the Message that /usr/<something i cannot remember>/X is not executable. And when I look for this file (as root) it does not exist. |
| 21:25.32 | abrotman | blondie: yay! |
| 21:25.41 | stew | tknitskitsahcots: install x-window-system-core |
| 21:25.45 | blondie | stew: yes |
| 21:25.50 | SimonRaven | X11R6/bin maybe ? ;) |
| 21:25.59 | abrotman | blondie: do you have an alias in /etc/hosts ? |
| 21:26.17 | stew | blondie: that makes me wonder if you have a dns problem then. does "host one" and "host one.domain.com" return different results? are either in /etc/hosts? |
| 21:26.19 | blondie | umm yes 217.160.188.80 one one.xelam.net |
| 21:26.27 | abrotman | that'll do it |
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| 21:26.38 | blondie | stew: no both are the same, but the IP will resolve to one first |
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| 21:27.06 | tknitskitsahcots | stew: the setup seems automatically to configure it - why else would it try to start kdm after installing? |
| 21:27.33 | abrotman | kdm can be used remotely |
| 21:27.43 | tknitskitsahcots | remotely? |
| 21:27.48 | stew | tknitskitsahcots: i'm not sure what you mean. installing kdm won't install x-window-system-core. you need to install that separately |
| 21:28.26 | shogunx | tknitskitsahcots yes, remotely. usually with devices called x-terminals. |
| 21:28.59 | SimonRaven | blondie: in each line, order matters |
| 21:29.06 | tknitskitsahcots | stew: i only run the setup of debian. and it seems to have installed something... aptitude sais that x-window-system-core ist installed... |
| 21:29.08 | blondie | SimonRaven: I know |
| 21:29.19 | SimonRaven | ok, just checking |
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| 21:29.51 | tknitskitsahcots | stew: unfortunately i am not a linux freak... |
| 21:30.49 | stew | tknitskitsahcots: if you only ran the setup you would have neither kdm nor x-window-system-core. what does "ls -l /usr/bin/X11/X" say? |
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| 21:31.50 | Rexxie | Hi, I'm getting strange errors when I try to compile stuff: "gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory" |
| 21:31.56 | tknitskitsahcots | sorry... at the moment i am not in debian (because i am far away from using internet ^^)... the thing with the system-core i only knew because i have read this in some webpage... |
| 21:31.59 | Ryushin | I have a remote server that I think is having a hard disk problem with one of the sectors. Is there a way to reboot it, have it check the consistency of a reiserfs partition, reboot after it's done, and somewhere write a log of it's results. Or do I have to show up on site and use a rescue disk? |
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| 21:33.18 | tknitskitsahcots | stew: i hope i do not get on somebody's nerves... but... after the setup apt is started and i am asked about things like screen-resolution, etc... |
| 21:33.20 | unstable | If you want to play tetris, apt-get install gtetrinet; then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 21:34.03 | nvz | tetris is the most horridly dull and boring game in the world |
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| 21:34.35 | vulture | that's why someone invented tetrinet :) |
| 21:34.46 | unstable | nvz: tetrinet is fun. |
| 21:35.07 | nvz | I've liked tetris spinoffs but tetris sucks |
| 21:35.21 | srw | nvz: play tetrinet then |
| 21:35.24 | unstable | yea, play it |
| 21:35.35 | unstable | srw / vulture come play alsol |
| 21:35.47 | unstable | connnect to tetrinet.debian.net nvz |
| 21:35.56 | unstable | apt-get install gtetrinet |
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| 21:37.00 | cire | I use make-kpkg to compile my kernels. I have the pwc-driver in /usr/src/modules, and I'd like to compile it into the kernel-image. What options do I have to set? (read manpage, but didn't get it...) |
| 21:37.29 | hacim | reflect: I will |
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| 21:38.33 | tknitskitsahcots | ok. i think even here noone knows the solution... |
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| 21:40.28 | tknitskitsahcots | DEBIAN SUXX!!! |
| 21:40.31 | tknitskitsahcots | LINUX SUXX!!! |
| 21:40.42 | Rexxie | ...lol |
| 21:40.42 | abrotman | is that all ? |
| 21:40.51 | abrotman | some people are so stupid |
| 21:40.56 | deadcat | i bet you guys didnt want to help him (= |
| 21:41.03 | abrotman | I SUXX! |
| 21:41.06 | elfredo | the call of the frustrated ^^ |
| 21:41.07 | abrotman | KIXX SUXX! |
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| 21:41.57 | elirips | hello people. unfortunatly I dont know too much about bash, pipes, etc, could someone tell me how i can create a list containing the filename, and the md5sum of each file that is in a directory? |
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| 21:42.34 | grendal_prime | hey any way to raw read data on a fkd up floppie? |
| 21:42.40 | abrotman | dd |
| 21:42.44 | GionnyBoss | hello! I can't find "java-package" and unfortunately http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages seems to be down (I can't search for a package there)... how can I get that package? |
| 21:42.48 | grendal_prime | i mean i cant mount it sooo |
| 21:42.54 | grendal_prime | dd will work for that? |
| 21:42.57 | tiCo89 | elirips: md5sum * > MD5SUMS |
| 21:43.00 | GFDL | elirips, md5sum * |
| 21:43.04 | abrotman | !info java-package sarge |
| 21:43.06 | jetscreamer | it should be called java-package |
| 21:43.07 | dpkg | java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 0.24 (sarge), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 264 kB |
| 21:43.13 | abrotman | !tell GionnyBoss about contrib |
| 21:43.16 | jetscreamer | you need contrib in sources |
| 21:43.18 | jetscreamer | ah nm |
| 21:43.24 | abrotman | texas is slow |
| 21:43.36 | jetscreamer | yes we have lots of time |
| 21:44.09 | jetscreamer | so it was you who made ppl talk real fast, so fast it's hard to live with |
| 21:44.20 | jetscreamer | 'as seen on tv' |
| 21:44.24 | grendal_prime | dd works if you cant even mount the drive? |
| 21:44.25 | abrotman | hehe |
| 21:44.29 | GionnyBoss | I know that, but unfortunately if I add "non-free contrib" I get an error... probably my mirrors are not good |
| 21:44.33 | jetscreamer | yes grendal_prime |
| 21:44.37 | grendal_prime | hmm |
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| 21:44.40 | jetscreamer | unless there are errors |
| 21:44.41 | abrotman | grendal_prime: it can make an image of the device .. whether or not that image will be any good is another story |
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| 21:44.56 | abrotman | GionnyBoss: paste your sources |
| 21:44.56 | jetscreamer | if errors, think dd_rescue or dd_rhelp |
| 21:44.57 | abrotman | !paste |
| 21:44.57 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 21:44.59 | grendal_prime | sample syntax for someting on floppy to....say my hd? |
| 21:45.18 | abrotman | dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/tmp/floppy.img |
| 21:45.21 | abrotman | roughly |
| 21:45.24 | abrotman | read the man page |
| 21:45.29 | elirips | tiCo89: thank you. I did not know that the output of md5sum also contains the filename :) |
| 21:45.29 | jetscreamer | dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/you/flopp... what he said |
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| 21:45.31 | grendal_prime | im looking at man now |
| 21:45.31 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 21:45.37 | abrotman | slow! |
| 21:45.43 | BucWheat | i do not have man sigaction what package do i need to install to get this? |
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| 21:45.53 | GionnyBoss | deb http://debian.fastweb.it/debian stable main |
| 21:45.54 | GionnyBoss | deb-src http://debian.fastweb.it/debian/ stable main |
| 21:45.54 | GionnyBoss | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 21:45.56 | jetscreamer | you don't have man what? |
| 21:46.03 | tiCo89 | elirips: ;-) |
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| 21:46.08 | BucWheat | jetscreamer sigaction |
| 21:46.10 | abrotman | GionnyBoss: you didn't add contrib |
| 21:46.18 | abrotman | GionnyBoss: only add it to the first and third line |
| 21:46.19 | GionnyBoss | I added it... |
| 21:46.19 | jetscreamer | !find sigaction |
| 21:46.23 | abrotman | erm .. well wait .. all three |
| 21:46.25 | GionnyBoss | but doesn't work |
| 21:46.30 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'sigaction' (5 of 7): (/usr/share/dist/U/d_sigaction.U) in devel/dist ;; (/usr/lib/perl/5.8.8/bits/sigaction.ph) in perl/perl ;; (/usr/include/bits/sigaction.h) in libdevel/libc6-dev ;; (/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/sigaction.h) in libdevel/libc6-dev-amd64 ;; (/usr/i386-uclibc-linux/include/bits/{kernel_sigaction.h|sigaction.h}) in libdevel/libuclibc-dev. |
| 21:46.31 | abrotman | add it again .. then show us |
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| 21:47.05 | jetscreamer | BucWheat: i'd have to guess, and say apt-get install manpages-dev |
| 21:47.08 | jetscreamer | but i dunno |
| 21:47.15 | GionnyBoss | when I try to open Synaptic Package Manager, it says me that it can't find contrib and non-free |
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| 21:47.45 | abrotman | use vi to add it .. or get another mirror |
| 21:47.47 | abrotman | !mirrors |
| 21:47.47 | dpkg | hmm... debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 21:47.49 | jetscreamer | !tell GionnyBoss -about non-free |
| 21:48.03 | jetscreamer | couldn't hurt to repeat |
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| 21:48.41 | GionnyBoss | !mirrors |
| 21:48.41 | dpkg | somebody said debian mirrors was use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
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| 21:49.04 | GionnyBoss | ok I try another mirror |
| 21:49.11 | GionnyBoss | thanks |
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| 21:49.18 | TipTop | i got the source of a package with apt-get source. now i need to build the package with my own parameters for the ./configure. how can i do that? is there a debian document that explains that a little bit? |
| 21:49.45 | abrotman | in the rules fie |
| 21:49.46 | abrotman | file |
| 21:49.48 | abrotman | !nm |
| 21:49.48 | dpkg | from memory, nm is New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen. A program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. at http://nm.debian.org/ |
| 21:49.51 | abrotman | erm .. wrong |
| 21:49.51 | abrotman | !mg |
| 21:49.51 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) lynx /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or maint-guide.en.html in sarge/sid). 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or the shorthand for Madagascar |
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| 21:50.42 | grendal_prime | ok |
| 21:50.44 | grendal_prime | dd: opening `/dev/sda1': No such device or address |
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| 21:51.09 | grendal_prime | thats where the floppy is. now it mounts to /media/floppy but of course it never makes it that far |
| 21:51.27 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 21:51.27 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 21:52.08 | GionnyBoss | can someone suggest me a good mirror, please? |
| 21:52.19 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 21:52.20 | dpkg | < RichiH> stable is for masochist fetishists with serverphobia ;) |
| 21:52.23 | tarzeau | GionnyBoss: any official one? |
| 21:52.27 | GionnyBoss | yes |
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| 21:52.46 | abrotman | grendal_prime: DO NOT DO THAT |
| 21:52.46 | GionnyBoss | I want to install java-package, but I can't find it |
| 21:52.48 | tarzeau | GionnyBoss: well all of the official ones are good |
| 21:52.58 | tarzeau | GionnyBoss: i386? sid? stable? |
| 21:53.13 | abrotman | is that fastweb notoriously bad? |
| 21:53.13 | grendal_prime | abrotman, ? |
| 21:53.16 | GionnyBoss | i386, stable |
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| 21:53.23 | cmdrwalrus | I'm getting a BADSIG warning from aptitude update: W: GPG error: http://ws48 sid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 21:53.23 | abrotman | grendal_prime: you're writing directly to /dev/sda1 ? |
| 21:53.24 | GionnyBoss | but I think that this package is not stable |
| 21:53.31 | abrotman | cmdrwalrus: /TOPIC! |
| 21:53.38 | grendal_prime | trying to pull from |
| 21:53.39 | GionnyBoss | I'm new to this :P |
| 21:53.40 | cmdrwalrus | heheh |
| 21:53.42 | cmdrwalrus | sorry |
| 21:54.02 | cmdrwalrus | It's in an ugly cyan, so I didn't bother reading it. ;-) |
| 21:54.06 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.08 | buu | Dell. |
| 21:54.33 | Rexxie | Having some problems with gcc/g++, please take a look at http://channels.debian.net/paste/2063 if you think you can help |
| 21:54.35 | grendal_prime | buu check out bios infor first |
| 21:54.40 | grendal_prime | you may need to upgrade it |
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| 21:54.43 | grendal_prime | i had to on my 1100 |
| 21:54.46 | SlammerXP | insert the install cd, switch the power on, make sure the bios is set to boot from the cd first |
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| 21:55.53 | grendal_prime | abrotman, is that backawards basically |
| 21:56.11 | grendal_prime | need two flip those around |
| 21:56.15 | abrotman | Rexxie: what is your mirror ? |
| 21:56.22 | abrotman | grendal_prime: huh ? |
| 21:56.31 | abrotman | grendal_prime: what's the command you're typing in ? |
| 21:56.48 | abrotman | Rexxie: rather .. paste your sources |
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| 21:57.20 | buu | grendal_prime: To what? |
| 21:57.25 | grendal_prime | dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/usr/shawng/floppy.img |
| 21:57.40 | grendal_prime | trying to get the data off the floppy and send it to a file on the hd |
| 21:57.55 | grendal_prime | so i can pic through it and see if i can recover any of the data |
| 21:57.59 | abrotman | grendal_prime: wtf is sda1 ? |
| 21:58.17 | Rexxie | abrotman: source to what? I'm pretty sure this is an installation issue related to gcc |
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| 21:58.25 | grendal_prime | its a usb floppy |
| 21:58.36 | grendal_prime | special device 1 |
| 21:58.47 | grendal_prime | i use it all the time...its an imation floppy |
| 21:59.17 | abrotman | Rexxie: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:59.25 | abrotman | grendal_prime: ok .. that makes more sense |
| 21:59.38 | abrotman | grendal_prime: are you sure it's set to /dev/sda1? or /dev/sda ? |
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| 22:00.32 | grendal_prime | ya |
| 22:00.37 | grendal_prime | its dev/sda1 |
| 22:00.42 | buu | Hrm. Anyone know where the updated kernel image is? |
| 22:00.46 | Rexxie | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2064 |
| 22:00.54 | buu | I'm basically looking for a debian install disk with the latest possible kernel |
| 22:02.14 | buu | dpkg kernels |
| 22:02.14 | dpkg | methinks kernels is see kernel |
| 22:02.18 | buu | dpkg kernel |
| 22:02.20 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.15.6, prepatch: 2.6.16-rc6, snapshot: 2.6.16-rc6-git1, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-pre2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.16-rc6-mm1 |
| 22:02.36 | SerajewelKS | buu: the netinstall *should* have the latest stable kernel |
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| 22:02.57 | SerajewelKS | buu: stable from debian's perspective, that is 2.6.8 |
| 22:03.14 | dn4 | kernel from the netinstall cd is 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 22:03.16 | dn4 | at least forme |
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| 22:03.47 | buu | SerajewelKS: Well, I need later than that, is the thing. |
| 22:03.55 | buu | What kernel does testing have? |
| 22:04.01 | SerajewelKS | buu: 2.6.15 |
| 22:04.06 | buu | Hrm. Unstable? |
| 22:04.13 | SerajewelKS | buu: 2.6.15 too, afaik |
| 22:04.24 | stew | buu: it also has 2.4.27 but probably not for too much longer |
| 22:04.24 | buu | Ok. I don't suppose you know how to make it install on a dimension 3100? |
| 22:04.35 | SerajewelKS | buu: install testing? |
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| 22:05.02 | cmdrwalrus | Is there a CD set available for unstable? Or how hard is it to build one? |
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| 22:05.10 | abrotman | Rexxie: and you can't install build-essential ? |
| 22:05.20 | SerajewelKS | cmdrwalrus: unstable changes too often (daily) to make a CD set |
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| 22:05.22 | abrotman | Rexxie: make sure you do an `apt-get update` first |
| 22:05.35 | SerajewelKS | cmdrwalrus: it would be stupid to make an unstable cd set anyway |
| 22:05.35 | jetscreamer | cmdrwalrus: there are daily cd images at something.something.hu |
| 22:05.44 | abrotman | !tell buu about sarge 2.6.12 |
| 22:05.46 | abrotman | !tell buu about sarge 2.6.14 |
| 22:05.47 | abrotman | !tell buu about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 22:05.51 | jetscreamer | youcan find the link on debian.org |
| 22:05.55 | abrotman | hrm |
| 22:06.02 | cmdrwalrus | jetscreamer: cool, thanks. I'll look it up. |
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| 22:06.57 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ at the bottom |
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| 22:07.02 | cmdrwalrus | SerajewelKS: why would it be stupid? I always run unstable anyway... and upgrading from sarge is stupid. |
| 22:07.19 | abrotman | !sarge uni |
| 22:07.20 | dpkg | sarge unofficial netinstallers see <sarge 2.6.12> <sarge 2.6.14> and/or <sarge 2.6.15> |
| 22:07.22 | buu | Er, for the "unofficial" etch thingy, what is disk1-10? |
| 22:07.35 | buu | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 22:07.36 | dpkg | it has been said that sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 22:07.40 | buu | oh |
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| 22:07.51 | Idle0ne | guys i need help, i been trying to get kde to install under debian all day, and apt-get install kde doesnt work says necesarry dependencies not found |
| 22:08.00 | Idle0ne | i try to install a dep and get the same message |
| 22:08.02 | jetscreamer | !fix-unmet |
| 22:08.02 | SerajewelKS | cmdrwalrus: so use the netinstall |
| 22:08.02 | dpkg | fix-unmet is probably run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once. then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked), or eg, basically, don't edit sources, don't select anything, just go to option 2 and hit enter a lot |
| 22:08.15 | SerajewelKS | cmdrwalrus: if you run the netinstall in expert mode (expert26) you can pick unstable |
| 22:08.16 | Idle0ne | someone suggested i try a different mirror for apt but i am not sure what path to use |
| 22:08.20 | Idle0ne | can someone lend a hand? |
| 22:08.25 | jetscreamer | i jsut did |
| 22:08.46 | Idle0ne | i am runnin the testing version for amd 64 |
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| 22:08.53 | jetscreamer | ahh |
| 22:08.54 | Rexxie | abrotman: Nope, I did apt-get update and I'm still just getting unmet dependencies (libc6-dev and g++) :/ |
| 22:08.57 | Agentj87 | hello all |
| 22:08.58 | LandWolf | Hi |
| 22:08.59 | jetscreamer | NOW it comes out |
| 22:09.03 | Agentj87 | need sum help of course |
| 22:09.13 | SerajewelKS | !tell Agentj87 about ask |
| 22:09.16 | abrotman | Rexxie: trying to install libc6-dev ? |
| 22:09.19 | Agentj87 | tryin to rar sumthin iin store compression and 50mb file size |
| 22:09.25 | abrotman | !rar |
| 22:09.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, rar is an archiver used mostly by 3l33+ war3z d00dz, or the worst file format ever, or ask me about unrar |
| 22:09.27 | LandWolf | how can i set as default manager a new desktop manager? |
| 22:09.32 | Agentj87 | so far i got rar a -m0 v51200 filename |
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| 22:09.45 | SerajewelKS | Agentj87: why the hell are you using rar for anything? |
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| 22:09.49 | jetscreamer | i dunno... i like rar's idea of how to split the archive a lot better than zip's |
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| 22:09.52 | Rexxie | abrotman: says I'm missing libc6, try to install that and it says I have the latest version already |
| 22:10.02 | Agentj87 | rar is better than zip |
| 22:10.06 | Agentj87 | to me |
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| 22:10.11 | SerajewelKS | Agentj87: tar is better than rar |
| 22:10.14 | SerajewelKS | Agentj87: to everybody |
| 22:10.16 | stew | Agentj87: not the free version of rar |
| 22:10.26 | abrotman | Rexxie: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 22:10.26 | jetscreamer | zip wants to make one big file, then split it.. rar just seems to make the splitted |
| 22:10.31 | Agentj87 | but anyways how do i the comman correct |
| 22:10.37 | Idle0ne | someone must be able to help with this :D |
| 22:10.44 | jetscreamer | Agentj87: use a front end |
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| 22:10.54 | jetscreamer | Idle0ne: did you try the fix-unmet? |
| 22:10.56 | SerajewelKS | Agentj87: just use bzip and be happy |
| 22:10.57 | Agentj87 | front end? |
| 22:11.06 | Idle0ne | no how do i do that? |
| 22:11.07 | Agentj87 | i want it broken into 50mb files |
| 22:11.08 | jetscreamer | Agentj87: like file-roller or whatever |
| 22:11.15 | Rexxie | abrotman: ii libc6 2.3.5-1 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 22:11.20 | jetscreamer | !tell Idle0ne -about fix-unmet |
| 22:11.25 | abrotman | Rexxie: you're not using sarge/stable anymore |
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| 22:11.41 | SerajewelKS | Agentj87: why do you want it broken into 50mb files? if you're preparing a file for a torrent i will break your arm. |
| 22:11.53 | abrotman | Rexxie: someone halfassed your install |
| 22:11.54 | jetscreamer | 50mb is too big anyway :) |
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| 22:12.00 | Agentj87 | just sum plz tell me the command line |
| 22:12.02 | Rexxie | abrotman: ouch :/ |
| 22:12.03 | Agentj87 | plz.. |
| 22:12.07 | SerajewelKS | !plz |
| 22:12.07 | dpkg | somebody said plz was german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel. L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
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| 22:12.24 | jetscreamer | man rar dude |
| 22:12.26 | Agentj87 | !Plz this |
| 22:12.31 | Idle0ne | thanks running now |
| 22:12.32 | pack | TORRENT PLS! |
| 22:12.34 | unforgettableid | !ty |
| 22:12.34 | dpkg | rumour has it, ty is thank you, or cobb -- a baseball player, or the company that creates Beanie Babies(TM) |
| 22:12.35 | jetscreamer | !lart Agentj87 |
| 22:12.51 | SerajewelKS | jetscreamer: ouch... |
| 22:12.55 | Agentj87 | so umm what do i need to do to my command line |
| 22:13.06 | jetscreamer | man rar or use a front end |
| 22:13.14 | Agentj87 | i did use man rar |
| 22:13.25 | Agentj87 | did any see my command i typed already |
| 22:13.29 | Agentj87 | im doing sumthing wrong |
| 22:13.38 | Agentj87 | so far i got rar a -m0 v51200 filename |
| 22:13.42 | ansong | Agentj87, what does it say when you execute your command? |
| 22:13.46 | Agentj87 | but not working the way i want |
| 22:13.47 | LandWolf | please can someone help me? I installed blackbox but how can i install it as a default manager? |
| 22:13.57 | SerajewelKS | !tell Agentj87 about enter |
| 22:13.59 | abrotman | Rexxie: you have etch's libc6 .. and sarge's sources ... |
| 22:14.20 | stew | Rexxie: you either need to reinstall, or finish upgrading to etch /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 22:14.42 | pack | can anyone point me in the direction of a decent 6/8 port sata h/w raid card that linux dosn't hate? or is this one of the "just pick a 3ware and forget about it" |
| 22:14.56 | Agentj87 | «ansong» when i put that command it it uses v51200 af filename |
| 22:15.07 | abrotman | pack: 3ware or adaptec .. have a nice day :) |
| 22:15.08 | Idle0ne | jetscreamer: that didnt help |
| 22:15.09 | Idle0ne | :( |
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| 22:15.29 | ansong | Agentj87, v51200 as the filename? |
| 22:15.29 | jetscreamer | Idle0ne: must be amd64 related then |
| 22:15.46 | pack | abrotman: can i sent you the PO? maybe you can sign off on a nicer server than managment will give me? |
| 22:15.46 | stew | abrotman: adaptec is making fakeraid cards too now, aren't they? (i'm not sure) |
| 22:15.49 | Agentj87 | «ansong» so rar a -m0 v51200 filename, isnt correct |
| 22:15.52 | Rexxie | thanks for the information, I'll see what I can do |
| 22:15.54 | jetscreamer | ted nugent is your god... ciao |
| 22:15.58 | abrotman | stew: not 6-8 port afaik |
| 22:16.01 | stew | right |
| 22:16.07 | abrotman | pack: hey .. you asked |
| 22:16.08 | Idle0ne | anyone else that can help? |
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| 22:16.23 | chx | how could I remove those packages that are signed "rc" by dpkg -l ? |
| 22:16.27 | abrotman | stew: the 1210 are software afaik .. not sure about 2410 .. think those are all hardware |
| 22:16.44 | ansong | Agentj87, what are you trying to rar again? is 'filename' the name of the file you want to create or the one you're rar'ing |
| 22:16.52 | stew | chx: purge them with dpkg -P packagename |
| 22:16.57 | pack | are there reviews of hardward raid controllers anywhere? |
| 22:17.18 | pack | like can i apt-get install pick-my-raid-card or somthing? |
| 22:17.20 | chx | stew: ouch there are a lot and dpkg -P -a did not get rid of them |
| 22:17.23 | Agentj87 | «ansong» yes |
| 22:17.29 | unforgettableid | pack: i doubt that's in apt |
| 22:17.35 | azeem | !beer mr |
| 22:17.36 | ansong | Agentj87, which one? |
| 22:17.41 | azeem | !beer me |
| 22:17.42 | pack | drats...i bet yum has it. |
| 22:17.47 | unforgettableid | !tea |
| 22:17.48 | dpkg | i heard tea is the offical drink of KDE Developers, or not as efficient as koffee, or what makes geiseri want to pea, or part of katie, sanity checks the database, or what biscuits were invented for |
| 22:17.53 | azeem | bzzt |
| 22:17.56 | unforgettableid | darn |
| 22:18.17 | Agentj87 | «ansong» the filel im rar'ing |
| 22:18.40 | Coweater | pack: raid drivers would be in the kernel, there may be utilities that would install with apt |
| 22:18.41 | GionnyBoss | I have to install nVidia drivers for my nVidia PCI-EX card... I downloaded a file on nvidia site, but if I try to start it it says me that I have to stop the graphic interface. how can I do that? |
| 22:19.17 | stew | chx: you could do something like "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -P", but i'd recommend just using aptitude at that point, its probably much safer |
| 22:19.29 | ivalladt | quit |
| 22:19.35 | GionnyBoss | I tried CTLR-ALT- backspace, but it doesn't work |
| 22:19.37 | pack | Coweater: (i was joking about that) |
| 22:19.44 | GionnyBoss | is there a command "quit" = |
| 22:19.44 | GionnyBoss | ? |
| 22:20.37 | madclicker | which sql engine is "defacto" for mailserver? |
| 22:20.57 | chx | stew: aptitude how? |
| 22:21.15 | SerajewelKS | madclicker: there isn't, you pick one |
| 22:21.33 | SerajewelKS | GionnyBoss: don't use the nvidia installer |
| 22:22.10 | madclicker | SerajewelKS, sarge comes with postgre; is there any difference with mysql? |
| 22:22.45 | Agentj87 | «ansong» still there |
| 22:22.50 | stew | chx: search for them first by searching for ~c |
| 22:23.00 | SerajewelKS | madclicker: yes, there is a difference. mysql is mysql, postgresql is postgresql. |
| 22:23.05 | blaamann | GionnyBoss: You need to shut down X, or just login to a shell ? |
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| 22:23.17 | SerajewelKS | madclicker: if you want mysql, purge postgresql and install it. if you don't, then you're all set. |
| 22:23.32 | madclicker | SerajewelKS, roger |
| 22:23.35 | ansong | Agentj87, hang on... |
| 22:23.38 | Agentj87 | k |
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| 22:24.53 | Virtual | is there anyway to disable artsd for good ? if I uninstall arts and artsd is there a problem? I`m using alsa. |
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| 22:25.17 | ansong | Agentj87, rar a -m0 -v51200 target_archive file_to_archive |
| 22:25.45 | kombi | when you do dist-upgrade, will your carefully customized kernel be overwritten? |
| 22:25.55 | ansong | Agentj87, pretty big chunks aren't they? |
| 22:26.10 | Agentj87 | ive dont 700mb |
| 22:26.18 | Agentj87 | and even 1.5gig pieces |
| 22:26.21 | Agentj87 | done* |
| 22:26.43 | ansong | Agentj87, hope that helps |
| 22:27.08 | kombi | ..because I am just doing dist-upgrade and it says kernel-image somewhere.. |
| 22:27.22 | Agentj87 | «ansong» thanks for the target do i end it with rar |
| 22:27.35 | jetscreamer | no kombi |
| 22:27.49 | curt | kombi, kernels don't get dist-upgrades |
| 22:27.50 | kombi | thanks jetscreamer |
| 22:28.06 | kombi | I am relieved curt |
| 22:28.06 | stew | kombi: it would only be overwritten if your packaged kernel had the same package name as an available one |
| 22:28.12 | ansong | Agentj87, doesn't really matter. it _is_ a rar no matter what the name is. if you're going to use it on a system that relies on file extensions to determine type, then name it rar |
| 22:28.23 | jetscreamer | the default kernel that gets booted may or may not change |
| 22:28.24 | Agentj87 | ok |
| 22:28.27 | Agentj87 | its workin fine now |
| 22:28.31 | stew | kombi: if you happen to have created a kernel package named "linux-image-2.6.15-1-686" it would possibly be overwritten |
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| 22:28.35 | Agentj87 | thankyou ansong |
| 22:28.42 | Agentj87 | you have been very helpful |
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| 22:29.17 | kombi | stew: which I will examine in a moment, but I believe I gave it the name of my girlfriend.. |
| 22:29.38 | srw | I think someone told my laptop I wouldn't power him down till the kernel build is finished.... |
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| 22:30.44 | kombi | stew: oops.. seems that I didn't... damn! |
| 22:30.50 | ansong | Agentj87, glad to help |
| 22:31.01 | slinn | can anyone recommend a good menu-driven traffic analyzer for console? |
| 22:31.07 | slinn | ncurses or something? |
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| 22:31.40 | Ronin | heh pathetic, just figured out that i parted teh channel hours ago |
| 22:31.40 | stew | slinn: what sort of analysis are you after? iptraf maybe? |
| 22:31.42 | Ryushin | slinn: Look at iptraf |
| 22:31.48 | Ronin | man it sucks getting older and dumber |
| 22:31.49 | slinn | k, thx |
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| 22:32.12 | slinn | exactly what i was looking for, thanks |
| 22:32.26 | stew | kombi: well in any case apt-get {dist-}upgrade doesn't do anything special with respect to kernel packages, it just treats them as any other package, if there is a newer version of the same package available, it upgrades them (as long as they are not on hold) |
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| 22:33.23 | abrotman | Ronin: we didn't notice either .. |
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| 22:34.33 | Ronin | abrotman: gee thanks, |
| 22:34.44 | Ronin | wouldnt expect anyone to have actually, to damn many folks in here |
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| 22:35.03 | kombi | stew: I just wasn't sure whether I had a custom roled kernel on this box for some weired nic, it seems this box is all generic though. I will not reboot it before the weeken though... thanks for the info! |
| 22:35.33 | abrotman | Ronin: you could just be busy at work |
| 22:36.02 | xored | i want to fix an IP to an specific MAC or better, i want no other use an ip as allowed. So i would try it like : iptables -P INPUT -s ip1 --mac !MACMUSTBE -j REJECT. Is that right ? |
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| 22:37.24 | abrotman | !iptables |
| 22:37.25 | dpkg | [iptables] the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
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| 22:37.55 | lauro | e ae galera |
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| 22:38.32 | Ronin | he funny man, guess he forgot who i work for |
| 22:38.37 | lauro | todos beleza? |
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| 22:39.19 | thingfish | !br |
| 22:39.19 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 22:39.26 | Ronin | too slow thingfish :) |
| 22:40.25 | thingfish | oh I see, darn hehe |
| 22:40.36 | Virtual | if I configure gaim or another app to work on alsa when I am running xmms i will not have sound for that app |
| 22:40.37 | Virtual | ? |
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| 22:41.42 | Shadowcat | xmms doesn't play nice with alsa |
| 22:41.47 | Shadowcat | or any other sound server for that matter |
| 22:42.03 | Virtual | Shad0wcat: then with what ? |
| 22:42.11 | Shadowcat | I don't use xmms |
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| 22:42.20 | Shadowcat | actually that's one of the main reasons I stopped using it |
| 22:42.39 | Shadowcat | I was sick of firefox crashing everytime it wanted to play a sound |
| 22:42.46 | Virtual | and what do you use ? |
| 22:42.51 | Shadowcat | juk |
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| 22:43.32 | zdennis | hey all, i've written some init scripts, however I need to know where it is handled if two init daemon's are started at the same time? If I start /etc/init.d/mydaemon two times I want to throw an error. Does start-stop-daemon handle this for me, or does my application need to do this? |
| 22:43.54 | zdennis | Shadowcat: i use Juk as well, I like it thus far |
| 22:43.58 | azeem | zdennis: s-s-d has support for lock files, AFAIK |
| 22:44.06 | azeem | never been on that side of s-s-d, though |
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| 22:44.16 | Shadowcat | zdennis: I prefer juk over amarok |
| 22:44.24 | Shadowcat | actually theoretically speaking |
| 22:44.31 | Shadowcat | it's IMPOSSIBLE to start two things at the same time |
| 22:44.37 | Shadowcat | literally |
| 22:44.47 | Shadowcat | the processor's single tasking |
| 22:44.52 | stew | i have 2 processors |
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| 22:45.20 | Shadowcat | stew: if you have two true processors then you can start two things at the same time |
| 22:46.10 | zdennis | Shadowcat, Amarok either a) didn't work correcctly or b) i had incorrect expectations of how amarok should have worked, I use Juk over Amarok as well |
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| 22:46.18 | zdennis | at least for now =) |
| 22:46.31 | Shadowcat | amarok is still a bit rough around the edges |
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| 22:47.21 | clem_yeats | amarok is my number one reason to use linux :) |
| 22:47.48 | clem_yeats | well maybe number two.. |
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| 22:48.39 | GoAuLd | whats number one? |
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| 22:48.49 | xored | how can i enter multpile srces in a iptables rule ? iptables -P INPUT -s ip1,ip2,ip3 ? |
| 22:48.54 | clem_yeats | unix and FSF principles. |
| 22:49.48 | dvm1981 | xored: An new line?? |
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| 22:50.17 | dannythm | hello |
| 22:50.22 | kronoz | how can i install jre on debian? |
| 22:50.25 | dvm1981 | Yo |
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| 22:50.29 | kronoz | java runtime env |
| 22:50.44 | Shadowcat | !java |
| 22:50.44 | dpkg | java is, like, Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive and forbids you from working on Java implementations or SDKs. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 22:51.03 | stew | kronoz: apt-get install java-runtime |
| 22:51.22 | clem_yeats | depends if you want sun's jre or if you don't mind using an open source version. |
| 22:51.24 | stew | kronoz: unless you are talking about a non-free java, in which case /msg dpkg java-package |
| 22:51.42 | mr_claus_ | gnome sound is working but rhythmbox is silence |
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| 22:51.50 | dannythm | I know there's a newbie question, but when I upgraded from sarge o etch my keyboard gor unconfigured... how can I set my keyboard map right? |
| 22:51.56 | eurisko | hi everyone i have a strange issue here ... |
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| 22:52.03 | stew | dannythm: /msg dpkg keympa |
| 22:52.08 | stew | *keymap |
| 22:52.10 | mr_claus_ | rhythmbox is working as user root but not with another one even the user is in group audio |
| 22:52.16 | dannythm | stew: thanks |
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| 22:52.47 | stew | mr_claus_: do other audio apps work for that user? had you just added them to audio? |
| 22:52.51 | mr_claus_ | the totem video player is working with the other user and the gnome system sound too, only rhythmbox is silent |
| 22:52.51 | xored | dvm1981: how to say : check next line then ? |
| 22:53.19 | mr_claus_ | stew: i just added the user to group audio, yes |
| 22:53.21 | dvm1981 | xored: I was thinking to write an new rule (new line). |
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| 22:53.37 | eurisko | i have onboard sound with nvidia nforce, and it haves always a strange beep, beep... but the sound plays fine besides the "beep". When i iwconfig the wireless interface the tones change and when i start using the wifi with a browser , irc or something the tone gets more faster... i guess is some irq problem how can i solve this? |
| 22:53.38 | srw | mr_claus_: volume set okay, tried the audio preferences? |
| 22:53.40 | mr_claus_ | stew: and activated the sound daemon with gnome startup in the options |
| 22:53.41 | stew | mr_claus_: they need log completely out and back in |
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| 22:54.00 | mr_claus_ | stew: i restarted the computer, no result |
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| 22:54.16 | stew | mr_claus_: does audio show up when you run "groups username" ? |
| 22:54.17 | Blissex | eurisko: easiest way: buy a sound card. They cost like US$10 for a decent one like one with the CMI8738 chipset. |
| 22:54.17 | pippijn | hi all |
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| 22:54.21 | mr_claus_ | stew: the volume is on, i will recheck the settings |
| 22:54.28 | pippijn | this is my lastcomm output: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vz1BKh44.html |
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| 22:54.40 | eurisko | but blissex this always worked!! that is a work arround, |
| 22:54.41 | pippijn | it is showing strange symbols and ?? all over the place |
| 22:54.47 | pippijn | what could be causing this? |
| 22:54.52 | stew | mr_claus_: and sound is definately *still* working using other sound apps? or it was before the last reboot? |
| 22:54.56 | mr_claus_ | stew: audio shows up if i type it in |
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| 22:55.19 | mr_claus_ | stew: it's definitely working with totem and the login and logout sound is working too |
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| 22:55.47 | pippijn | any ideas? |
| 22:55.57 | stew | mr_claus_: do you have a sound server like artsd or esd or jackd running? |
| 22:56.28 | mr_claus_ | stew: i don't installed one, perhaps it was installed with gnome, i will check this |
| 22:56.30 | morph4 | Can I talk to somebody in Polish language ? |
| 22:56.38 | Blissex | eurisko: you might have a dæmon that signal network traffic with audio. |
| 22:56.42 | dood_ | i think esd comes with gnome |
| 22:56.48 | Blissex | morph4: there are Polish language channels. |
| 22:56.52 | stew | !pl |
| 22:56.52 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pl is sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
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| 22:57.00 | morph4 | ok.thanks |
| 22:57.03 | Silent_al | dpkg, hi |
| 22:57.03 | dpkg | niihau, silent_al |
| 22:57.06 | mr_claus_ | stew: no sound server installed, only the libesd0 is installed |
| 22:58.01 | mr_claus_ | stew: sry, esound is installed which contains /usr/bin/esd |
| 22:58.09 | stew | mr_claus_: is it running? |
| 22:58.13 | stew | mr_claus_: are you using alsa? do you have the snd-pcm-oss module loaded? |
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| 22:58.32 | mr_claus_ | stew: yes, i use alsa and esd is running with parameter -nobeeps |
| 22:58.51 | mr_claus_ | stew: snd-pcm-oss is loaded |
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| 23:00.25 | mr_claus_ | stew: do the user need to be in another group too? |
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| 23:01.42 | stew | mr_claus_: no, just audio, it sounds like you either need to configure this app to use esd, or kill esd so the app can use the soundcard exclusively. I have no experience with esd myself |
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| 23:02.13 | mr_claus_ | stew: so i think the better way is to learn rhythmbox to use esd |
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| 23:02.39 | stew | mr_claus_: what kind of sound card is it? |
| 23:03.03 | mr_claus_ | stew: it's called via82xx, an onboard snd card of a laptop |
| 23:03.33 | jlamr | Can any one recommend a ftp client for a beginning user, running debian |
| 23:03.43 | pipeline | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.02 | jlamr | Why are they awful? |
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| 23:04.35 | Seb | how do I work around a "NFS stale file handle error" without rebooting ? |
| 23:04.37 | stew | wget is a great ftp client |
| 23:04.38 | Seb | i can't seem to umount, even with -f |
| 23:04.49 | morph4 | My english is poor but I wonder if you tell me where are find command to debian because I new in this system and I "green".I'm intresting to polish page |
| 23:04.54 | mr_claus_ | stew: the funny thing is that totem is working without any settings |
| 23:04.56 | Seb | (this is on the NFS *client* side) |
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| 23:05.26 | Seb | morph4: /usr/bin/find ? |
| 23:05.30 | jlamr | Will I be able to upload w/ wget? |
| 23:05.34 | ansong | thats strange. i try to run k3bsetup and just get a big blank window with help, defaults, ok and cancel at the bottom |
| 23:05.37 | srw | jlamr: gnome or kde? |
| 23:05.52 | orchid | morph4: http://www.debian.org/international/Polish/ ? |
| 23:05.53 | stew | jlamr: no |
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| 23:05.57 | jlamr | neither |
| 23:06.15 | jlamr | I want to be able to upload files to my server |
| 23:06.22 | morph4 | Ok thanks |
| 23:06.23 | stew | jlamr: use ncftp |
| 23:06.35 | srw | jlamr but you aren't running Debian on the desktop? |
| 23:06.47 | jlamr | Nope |
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| 23:07.12 | jlamr | wait, my server is running debian |
| 23:07.14 | srw | jlamr so you want a good windows ftp client? I suspect your in the wrong channel for advice on that |
| 23:07.16 | cire | how do I make a ramdisk (it shall be mounted to /tmp) ? |
| 23:07.51 | jlamr | I want to be able to upload files remotely to my Debian server |
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| 23:08.10 | jlamr | apache* |
| 23:08.12 | srw | jlamr ftp is ftp -- what is the client system? |
| 23:08.12 | numist | whose bot is Hlaalu |
| 23:08.39 | stew | Hlaalu: owner |
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| 23:09.39 | jlamr | from windows to debian |
| 23:09.48 | priscila | cire: you would ask it to google |
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| 23:10.05 | stew | jlamr: this isn't the right place to ask for suggestions about windows ftp clients |
| 23:10.07 | kspath | jlamr: winscp and sshd |
| 23:10.22 | jlamr | Ok soory then |
| 23:10.35 | jlamr | thanks for the help at any rate |
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| 23:11.53 | rbd | hey guys, if I have a dual core athlon X2 CPU...what kernel should I be running with? 2.6.x-amd64-k8-smp ? (i.e. SMP or no, k8 or generic?) |
| 23:12.19 | rbd | and should cat /proc/cpuinfo show 1 CPU or two? |
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| 23:12.54 | srw | jlamr: wsftp is good -- but as said you'll get better response on a Windows channel -- us Debian folk tend to use ssh -- more secure |
| 23:13.00 | stew | rbd: ask #debian-amd64 |
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| 23:13.09 | rbd | stew: okay |
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| 23:13.52 | kps | any easy way to setup hardware opengl in debian ? |
| 23:13.53 | morph4 | Which command compile in c++ ? |
| 23:14.03 | jml6 | g++ |
| 23:14.08 | morph4 | yes |
| 23:14.10 | morph4 | g++ |
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| 23:14.19 | kps | how should one know which of all these libgl1-mesa-glx etc packeges one is supposed to install |
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| 23:14.37 | trym | I get a "X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)\n Major opcode of failed request: 78 (X_CreateColormap)" when I try to connect to a server using rdesktop. Any ideas which library is messed up? |
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| 23:15.12 | bsims | ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz server said 'Failed to open file.' Borked on main? |
| 23:15.17 | Sciallo | apt question: how do I use a url with a '~' in sources list? I'm trying to use 'deb http://www.cti.ecp.fr/~beauxir5/debian binary/' but it fails to get Packages.gz even though it's there |
| 23:15.18 | buu | Hrm. |
| 23:15.28 | buu | Does multihead output with an nvidia card require the official nvidia drivers? |
| 23:15.38 | buu | Sciallo: Replace the space with %20 |
| 23:16.07 | Sciallo | between 'debian' and 'binary/'? |
| 23:16.26 | buu | Yes |
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| 23:17.02 | srw | bsims is that still in topic -- as I've switched irc client... |
| 23:17.05 | kspath | buu: I have mutli-head xinerama with nv |
| 23:17.18 | Sciallo | buu: 'E: Malformed line 11 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)' |
| 23:17.27 | bsims | srw that badsig is |
| 23:17.29 | kspath | buu: I have 3 different nvidia cards all PCI |
| 23:17.32 | mr_claus_ | stew: there are a lot of gstreamer things are missing, should i use gstreamer and plugins? |
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| 23:17.42 | bsims | this is just screaming that there is nothing there |
| 23:18.23 | srw | bsims: they were muttering about borked mirrors recently. Anyway easy to check if it is there or not. |
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| 23:19.14 | bsims | heh ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ is frelling blank |
| 23:19.16 | Blushi | what's a good window manager these days? I've used afterstep 4 years ago but haven't used linux since |
| 23:19.19 | trym | any ideas ? |
| 23:19.23 | bsims | Blushi: wmaker |
| 23:19.47 | jml6 | xfce4 rocks |
| 23:19.59 | jml6 | well thats actualy a desktop environment |
| 23:20.00 | Blushi | k, i'll check those out |
| 23:20.06 | jml6 | icewm is cool |
| 23:20.06 | kspath | Blushi: AfterStep is still ok but ion3 and openbox3 are nice |
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| 23:20.59 | lws_ | HI |
| 23:21.01 | bsims | Frack. anyone else seeing a blank page at ftp.debian.org/debian |
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| 23:21.13 | lws_ | I'm having an interesting problem in that my fstab is evaluated before my raid controller drivers come up |
| 23:21.17 | devazion | !hi |
| 23:21.17 | dpkg | hello, devazion |
| 23:21.33 | lws_ | so drives which are specified in my fstab that are on the raid controller don't come up automatically. |
| 23:21.37 | kspath | Blushi: You might be better off starting with AfterStep again and trying others as time permits. |
| 23:22.36 | srw | bsims: no looks good here |
| 23:22.51 | lws_ | Does anybody know how to change the order ith which the fstab is evaluated? |
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| 23:23.19 | srw | bsims: but I'm getting umn... you probably got a different IP address. |
| 23:23.38 | buu | kspath: I'm having problems with making xinerama work =/ |
| 23:23.43 | buu | kspath: Let me go check. |
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| 23:24.21 | kspath | buu: Xorg or XFree? |
| 23:24.26 | bsims | srw: nslookup says 128.101.240.212 |
| 23:24.37 | bsims | xorg |
| 23:24.47 | athlon- | hello I have a question I am trying to setup /dev/hdb1 to auto mount to /home/userdir/files I am trying to add it to fstab what should the correct parameters be in fstab so that user may read/write/delete etc? |
| 23:25.27 | orchid | is there a way to see if a package is installed thats not from the release you track, ie find any testing packages installed on stable? |
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| 23:25.43 | streuner | orchid: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
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| 23:26.02 | streuner | orchid: use the part of *policy* |
| 23:26.03 | buu | kspath: Xfree, We configured multiple screen/monitor/device sections then got "Requested entity is in use" |
| 23:26.25 | kspath | buu: Can I see your config somewhere? |
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| 23:26.45 | orchid | streuner: ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone, 500 http://debian.yorku.ca stable/main Packages |
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| 23:27.10 | athlon- | hello I have a question I am trying to setup /dev/hdb1 to auto mount to /home/userdir/files I am trying to add it to fstab what should the correct parameters be in fstab so that user may read/write/delete etc? |
| 23:27.17 | streuner | orchid: well, write a script that analyze each package installed in your system and grep it then |
| 23:27.34 | buu | kspath: Yeah let me paste. |
| 23:27.36 | orchid | streuner: yeah I see thanks |
| 23:27.51 | grandma | ftp.us.debian.org down? |
| 23:28.17 | streuner | grandma: /topic |
| 23:28.27 | rAz_ | cya |
| 23:28.45 | grandma | doh |
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| 23:29.05 | bsims | due to mirror split, ftp.d.o doesn't carry anymore non-i386 for testing & unstabl |
| 23:29.31 | Zrin | what is the easiest way to mirror _with deleting_ an ftp directory? |
| 23:29.32 | morph4 | Which command open the g++ ? |
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| 23:29.41 | buu | kspath: http://sial.org/pbot/16305 |
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| 23:30.52 | emesa | hey, installed flah via the non-free package, but it's not in any of my browsers. Looked online and it looks like there's some kind of setup script to run? Can someone help me out? |
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| 23:31.32 | buu | Gah. Stupid X |
| 23:31.34 | Tarka | emesa: which dist? |
| 23:31.47 | bsims | deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib shouldn't be pulling anything non-i386, correct? |
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| 23:31.52 | emesa | 3.1 |
| 23:31.55 | emesa | Sarge |
| 23:32.08 | Tarka | Stable? Sorry, can't help. |
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| 23:32.14 | Tarka | Did you get an error? |
| 23:32.24 | emesa | no errors |
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| 23:32.48 | Ronin | emesa: did you follow dpkg directions for flash? |
| 23:33.04 | emesa | I used synaptic |
| 23:33.07 | emesa | it asked me some quetsions |
| 23:33.10 | emesa | and then said it was done |
| 23:33.11 | fuhr | Hi, the mirrors of unstable are working? |
| 23:33.25 | Tarka | emesa: try running /usr/sbin/update-flashplugin |
| 23:33.46 | bsims | not that I can tell |
| 23:33.47 | emesa | k so sbin so I have to be root, right? |
| 23:34.05 | Tarka | Yep |
| 23:34.20 | buu | Anyone have any ideas on the nvidia dual head set up? Do we need the binary drivers? |
| 23:34.32 | emesa | tarka no such file or dir |
| 23:34.59 | Tarka | emesa: try dpkg -L flashplugin-nonfree |
| 23:35.03 | Tarka | It should be in there |
| 23:35.04 | emesa | oh, holdon |
| 23:35.07 | emesa | I wasn't paying attention |
| 23:35.10 | nvz | dpkg, test |
| 23:35.10 | dpkg | No, nvz, you're not online any more. |
| 23:35.11 | emesa | my authentication failed |
| 23:35.20 | mr_claus_ | stew: i think the problem is gstreamer |
| 23:35.20 | nvz | buu: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 23:35.30 | buu | nvz: I need the binary nvidia drivers? |
| 23:35.45 | mr_claus_ | stew: gst-launch is not working too and rhythmbox depends on gstreamer |
| 23:35.55 | nvz | dpkg, tell buu about nvidia one-liner |
| 23:36.01 | stew | mr_claus_: sorry, i don't know what gstreamer is |
| 23:36.05 | mr_claus_ | stew: but if i call gstreamer-properties and do the tests it's working |
| 23:36.14 | emesa | ok |
| 23:36.16 | kspath | buu: Why do you have Clone on |
| 23:36.19 | buu | nvz: I'm glad you spammed me with that useless information. |
| 23:36.25 | buu | kspath: Um. Good question. |
| 23:36.27 | emesa | Tarka it said no new version is dected. (= not installed) |
| 23:36.52 | Tarka | Try purging it and then reinstalling with apt-get |
| 23:36.54 | buu | kspath: Let me take it off. |
| 23:37.08 | kspath | buu: Screen "Screen0" LeftOf "Screen1" |
| 23:37.14 | kspath | buu: Screen "Screen1" |
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| 23:37.47 | buu | kspath: That's how it should be? |
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| 23:38.36 | kspath | buu: That is how it can be. There are several ways. |
| 23:38.45 | buu | kspath: But the way it is now is not correct? |
| 23:39.16 | kspath | buu: I would have to test your way in mine in order to know that. |
| 23:39.31 | kspath | buu: I am using the 3head machine now. |
| 23:40.08 | kspath | buu: You can remove all those SubSections for other depths besides 24 if you want to make it cleaner to read |
| 23:40.17 | buu | Right. |
| 23:40.41 | buu | kspath: Is it the Driver "nv" bit? |
| 23:40.44 | buu | It can't be loaded twice? |
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| 23:41.24 | bsims | Sigh is ftp.debian.org down for anyone else? |
| 23:41.35 | kspath | buu: Each card of mine has the "nv" line in it. |
| 23:41.44 | buu | kspath: Hmph. We're still getting the requested entity error |
| 23:41.46 | azeem | bsims: why don't you use a local mirror? |
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| 23:42.13 | bsims | azeem: from what I can tell with a browser ftp.us is down too |
| 23:42.43 | kspath | buu: Can you move the part at the top to the bottom. At least that is how it has always been in my XFree and Xorg configs. I never bothered to see if it could be any other way. |
| 23:42.53 | buu | Er surely that doesn't matter. |
| 23:42.54 | stew | bsims: ftp.us is working for me. remember that ftp.us is a round-robin to several different machines |
| 23:43.01 | buu | kspath: This is the default XF layout |
| 23:43.02 | kspath | buu: Refering to the ServerLayout part |
| 23:43.21 | kspath | buu: I do not think it should matter in a config myself. |
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| 23:43.32 | buu | I moved it, no change |
| 23:43.34 | fas3r | hi all |
| 23:43.57 | fas3r | with etherrel it(not possible to see the ssid ? ( just yes or no ) ^^ |
| 23:44.16 | fas3r | ethereal* |
| 23:44.36 | kspath | buu: BudID is same card?!?! |
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| 23:44.44 | bsims | stew: no joy |
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| 23:45.04 | stew | bsims: to which server? |
| 23:45.18 | bsims | stat (2 No such file or directory) 128.101.240.212 |
| 23:45.28 | bsims | ftp.us.debian.org |
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| 23:45.33 | kspath | buu: BusID is same card?!?! I see under one you have Screen 0 as a comment on other you have a Screen 1 |
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| 23:45.54 | kspath | buu: You have several things in your config that I have not seen/used before myself. |
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| 23:46.06 | _vchrizz_ | hi |
| 23:46.30 | bsims | stew: on f.d.o I get Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' |
| 23:46.45 | stew | bsims: 128.101.240.212 works for me |
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| 23:47.22 | stew | bsims: is there a firewall in your way that could be causing this? |
| 23:47.30 | bsims | stew: not on my end |
| 23:47.39 | codex7 | i have no experince with dns, is there somehting like plesk that will work with debian? |
| 23:47.58 | bsims | stew: ftp://128.101.240.212/debian just shows up yo higher directory |
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| 23:48.13 | bsims | s/y/t/ |
| 23:48.14 | kspath | buu: My set up is 3 separate cards. Do you just have one card with two ports? |
| 23:48.20 | athlon- | Which one of this would be the hardware address to my nic card? |
| 23:48.20 | athlon- | Bus 1, device 10, function 0: |
| 23:48.21 | athlon- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.21 | athlon- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.21 | athlon- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.21 | athlon- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:48.33 | codex7 | or an easy guide to follow |
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| 23:48.37 | kspath | !tell athlon- about paste |
| 23:48.51 | athlon- | sorry k-man |
| 23:48.54 | athlon- | er kspath |
| 23:49.07 | athlon- | how do I find out the hardware address of my nic card? I am trying to get my second nic working.. |
| 23:49.09 | malex | What's the correct way to have some system variable set at boot time. For instance, I need to increase the /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches for beagled to run ok. |
| 23:49.34 | Blissex | malex: usually '/etc/sysctl.conf' |
| 23:49.48 | kspath | athlon-: Is it wireless? |
| 23:50.06 | bsims | !lart p.d.o |
| 23:50.08 | athlon- | no its a 3com 905c |
| 23:50.30 | emesa | anyone had a problem like this when installing flash? |
| 23:50.31 | athlon- | when I do dmesg | grep for the card i get this |
| 23:50.31 | athlon- | 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html |
| 23:50.31 | athlon- | 01:0a.0: 3Com PCI 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0xdf00. Vers LK1.1.18-ac |
| 23:50.41 | kspath | athlon-: lspci might show you and there is an app called hwinfo I think that can show everything to you |
| 23:50.44 | athlon- | 0xdf00 <--- that it? |
| 23:50.44 | malex | Blissex: Thank you. |
| 23:51.03 | emesa | Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscap |
| 23:51.17 | emesa | Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/bin/epiphany/ |
| 23:51.27 | emesa | solemnwarning: /usr/bin/epiphany/ is not a directory |
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| 23:53.47 | buu | kspath: Yes |
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| 23:55.33 | Gnurdux | Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' |
| 23:55.39 | Gnurdux | anyone been getting that? |
| 23:55.58 | bsims | Gnurdux: yeah |
| 23:56.09 | Gnurdux | ill just wait for it to clear up I guess |
| 23:56.13 | Gnurdux | i go to the FTP serverr |
| 23:56.20 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.24 | bsims | same here |
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| 23:56.41 | kspath | buu: I do not have any cards with two on it that I have used yet. Sorry. |
| 23:56.47 | srw | why don't you guys just configure another mirror if your that keen to upgrade |
| 23:56.54 | Gnurdux | im not |
| 23:57.03 | Gnurdux | i just wanted to know if it was specific to me |
| 23:57.05 | Gnurdux | its not |
| 23:57.08 | Gnurdux | so im fine |
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| 23:57.34 | bsims | srw: cause f.us.d.o is down too |
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| 23:58.15 | mzilikazi | having some problems w/ hwclock - could someone compare my startup links to theirs please? http://pastebin.com/600707 |
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| 23:59.36 | kspath | buu: How does lspci list your one video card? |
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| 23:59.45 | srw | Geez I forgot how slow my laptop is at compiling stuff, it is still going on a kernel build from 20:00 hours and it is now midnight |
