| 00:00.23 | alvanson | mgoetze, briefly explain |
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| 00:00.35 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: try the vesa driver .. same issue ? |
| 00:00.41 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: how? |
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| 00:00.45 | madradrone | does this server normally reset every 2 min? |
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| 00:00.50 | xuser | Hi, can a opened ssh session be exported or used on another computer? |
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| 00:01.11 | abrotman | !drxx mmiikkee12 |
| 00:01.11 | dpkg | mmiikkee12: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 00:01.16 | mgoetze | alvanson: find doc on fat file system. figure out where the time you want modified is, exactly. use dd on raw device to write to it. |
| 00:01.17 | abrotman | mike4479: what did you find out ? |
| 00:01.28 | madradrone | hello all. i'm trying to find out exactly what "obscure" means in common-password for pam. i have scoured around for info but have come up empty. |
| 00:01.29 | lilo | madradrone: no |
| 00:01.38 | lilo | madradrone: probably an ISP problem |
| 00:01.43 | lilo | madradrone: I *think* |
| 00:01.47 | alvanson | mgoetze, I could do that, but I was hoping somebody else already figured that out and put it in program form |
| 00:01.56 | mike4479 | abrotman: 0000:02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) |
| 00:02.03 | madradrone | thanks lilo |
| 00:02.11 | abrotman | mike4479: ok .. |
| 00:02.42 | erhanr | lilo: are you usin debian too ? :) |
| 00:02.56 | abrotman | mike4479: looks like you're stuck with ndiswrapper from what i can tell |
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| 00:03.16 | mike4479 | abrotman: i am seeking a different program because for the life of me i can't get ndiswrapper to work on unstable build |
| 00:03.32 | mike4479 | abrotman: ok thanks for the info |
| 00:03.32 | thingfish | erhanr: I bet the freenode staff are pretty mum about which distro they use. |
| 00:03.33 | abrotman | !ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 00:03.33 | dpkg | somebody said ndiswrapper one-liner was apt-get install build-essential ndiswrapper-source module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
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| 00:03.58 | erhanr | i always wonder what system they use |
| 00:04.05 | mike4479 | abrotman: ok let me try that |
| 00:04.05 | De_Mon | uuh, I'm installing an asterisk package (asterisk-web-vmail) and it wants apache-common... but I'm running apache2 (and have apache2-common). Should I be concerned? |
| 00:04.11 | erhanr | maybe lfs |
| 00:04.21 | abrotman | De_Mon: not really .. -common is just the conf files mostly |
| 00:04.26 | thingfish | erhanr: please. |
| 00:04.32 | abrotman | De_Mon: check the package contents at packages.debian.org |
| 00:04.40 | abrotman | !depends asterisk-web-vmail |
| 00:04.41 | mike4479 | !paste |
| 00:04.41 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 00:04.43 | erhanr | hehe ok |
| 00:04.46 | dpkg | asterisk-web-vmail: depends on httpd-cgi, libapache-dbi-perl | libdbi-perl |
| 00:04.50 | nanok | erhanr: nobody actually uses lfs seriously, i think. that is a toy |
| 00:05.05 | lilo | erhanr: I'm a long-time Debian user, and it's one of the distributions we get a lot of use out of for freenode |
| 00:05.07 | De_Mon | eh /me checks his list again |
| 00:05.08 | nanok | very useful learning toy, indeed, i should think |
| 00:05.14 | abrotman | !pizza me |
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| 00:05.17 | abrotman | oh well |
| 00:05.22 | abrotman | iMx: better? :) |
| 00:05.27 | iMx | i dunno is it? ;) |
| 00:05.32 | abrotman | for the moment anyways |
| 00:05.36 | erhanr | oh ok thanks lilo |
| 00:05.39 | thingfish | I suspect that the freenode staff smokes enough pot that they need a somewhat complete distro. |
| 00:05.39 | iMx | cool |
| 00:05.42 | maalox | Anyone have any ideas why my pcmcia wireless card can connect to an access point and get an IP but can't ping? |
| 00:05.57 | abrotman | the AP doesn't allow ping ? |
| 00:05.59 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: (WW) ****INVALID MEM ALLOCATION**** b: 0xffe80000 e: 0xffefffff correcting |
| 00:06.03 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: (WW) ****INVALID MEM ALLOCATION**** b: 0xffe80000 e: 0xffefffff correcting |
| 00:06.06 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: for vesa too ? |
| 00:06.07 | mmiikkee12 | oops |
| 00:06.10 | mmiikkee12 | hold on |
| 00:06.11 | maalox | abrotman: I can't even ping myself |
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| 00:06.19 | mmiikkee12 | (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes |
| 00:06.25 | De_Mon | ok, that's not whats installing apache-common. guess I'll dig some more |
| 00:06.27 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: what resolution did you pick? |
| 00:06.28 | mmiikkee12 | (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. |
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| 00:06.34 | abrotman | De_Mon: it's cascading |
| 00:06.42 | mmiikkee12 | 1280x1024, 1024x768, and 800x600 |
| 00:06.48 | abrotman | maalox: do you have an IP? |
| 00:06.51 | Jeremie | re |
| 00:07.00 | maalox | abrotman: Yes |
| 00:07.02 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: and it's an LCD or monitor ? |
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| 00:07.07 | thingfish | !re |
| 00:07.07 | dpkg | hmm... re is reverse engineering, or the note one tone above do, or an abbreviation from the latin meaning "concerning", or an abbreviation of reply used to prefix email subjects when replying, or 'rehi', ie. 'hello again', or an abbreviation for regular expressions. |
| 00:07.08 | mmiikkee12 | crt |
| 00:07.12 | maalox | abrotman: I can't ping it from outside, either |
| 00:07.13 | mmiikkee12 | gateway ev700 |
| 00:07.23 | abrotman | maalox: but your intarweb works ? |
| 00:07.34 | mike4479 | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2159 |
| 00:07.35 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: pick only 800x600 at 72Hz |
| 00:07.40 | maalox | abrotman: PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 26 data byes ping: sendto: Network is unreachable |
| 00:07.47 | maalox | abrotman: I'm on a different computer |
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| 00:07.58 | abrotman | mike4479: what is that? :) |
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| 00:08.03 | mmiikkee12 | should i be starting this by typing 'X' ? |
| 00:08.05 | nanok | maalox: you have no lo, than |
| 00:08.11 | mmiikkee12 | or am i using the wrong command? |
| 00:08.15 | abrotman | maalox: ifconfig -a .. do you see lo or eth0 or anything ? |
| 00:08.22 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: startx ? |
| 00:08.30 | thingfish | oh wow, a gateway. I used to support those. |
| 00:08.44 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: ok, let me try that ;) |
| 00:08.44 | maalox | abrotman: Yes, I see eth0 and lo, working fine... I just can't ping either of them |
| 00:08.48 | mike4479 | abrotman: the error log i get when i try to build ndiswrapper with apt-get install build-essential ndiswrapper-source module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
| 00:08.49 | thingfish | I'm surpised an ev700 is still working. |
| 00:09.01 | thingfish | considering how many I replaced. |
| 00:09.03 | nanok | maalox: ip ro |
| 00:09.06 | De_Mon | I've got apache2 from stable, and was trying to install asterisk-web-vmail from unstable. That's why it wanted additional packages? |
| 00:09.09 | abrotman | mike4479: you pasted me your output from emacs or pico or something |
| 00:09.11 | nanok | maalox: ? |
| 00:09.21 | maalox | Notorious: ip ro? Huh? |
| 00:09.23 | De_Mon | ah well, stable it is |
| 00:09.23 | maalox | er |
| 00:09.29 | maalox | nanok: ip ro? Huh? |
| 00:09.33 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: startx not found |
| 00:09.39 | abrotman | maalox: do you see any TX numbers? |
| 00:09.43 | mike4479 | abrotman: nano /var/cache/modass/ndiswrapper-source*buildlog* |
| 00:09.47 | nanok | maalox: type that, you should get the routing table |
| 00:09.47 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 00:10.03 | maalox | abrotman: under eth0 yes but not under lo |
| 00:10.07 | thingfish | I like aptitude -r installs. |
| 00:10.08 | abrotman | mike4479: it's on another machine .. or the one you're on now ? |
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| 00:10.24 | mike4479 | abrotman: the one I am on |
| 00:10.26 | abrotman | maalox: what card/driver? |
| 00:10.29 | abrotman | mike4479: /j #flood |
| 00:10.35 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: same error again |
| 00:10.40 | maalox | nanok: command not found |
| 00:10.40 | mike4479 | abrotman: ok |
| 00:10.48 | maalox | abrotman: orinoco.o |
| 00:10.50 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: did you install x-window-system-core ? |
| 00:10.53 | nanok | maalox: oh, route -n |
| 00:10.58 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: installing |
| 00:11.00 | nanok | maalox: but i let you to abrotman for now |
| 00:11.01 | mmiikkee12 | hold on |
| 00:11.04 | abrotman | maalox: maybe that driver doesn't properly support your card? |
| 00:11.08 | maalox | nanok: Ok |
| 00:11.10 | mike4479 | abrotman: what should i flood in there |
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| 00:11.25 | abrotman | mike4479: i just told you :) |
| 00:11.26 | nanok | maalox: it is missleading for both of you if i dont |
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| 00:11.38 | maalox | nanok: hmm, interesting... the routing table doesn't show anything |
| 00:11.45 | nanok | maalox: i'll intervene only if i find something to add ;) |
| 00:12.06 | maalox | abrotman: I suppose that's possible... the card is pretty standard though.. wavelan something |
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| 00:12.10 | nanok | maalox: well, it should, |
| 00:12.17 | nanok | maalox: try ifconfig lo up |
| 00:12.19 | dos000 | anyone has a sample or pointer on how to send a gratious arp from the command line ? |
| 00:12.19 | abrotman | maalox: check dmesg .. see any errors ? |
| 00:12.20 | mmiikkee12 | hmm |
| 00:12.27 | mmiikkee12 | apt needs a progress bar. |
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| 00:12.51 | maalox | nanok: tried it... still can't ping lo |
| 00:12.56 | maalox | abrotman: let me check |
| 00:13.02 | nanok | abrotman: lo should work regardless of the netcard driver .. |
| 00:13.07 | nanok | very strange |
| 00:13.25 | abrotman | nanok: unless loading the driver crashed his stack ? |
| 00:13.32 | nanok | myeah |
| 00:13.48 | nanok | never seen something so badly fucked up .. |
| 00:14.05 | nanok | i am running some orinoco card myself, as a matter of fact |
| 00:14.07 | maalox | nanok: strange indeed |
| 00:14.16 | mmiikkee12 | maalox: you don't ping lo, you ping localhost |
| 00:14.33 | mmiikkee12 | or 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:14.37 | nanok | mmiikkee12: it was just a shorthand, i think |
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| 00:14.50 | myren | any suggestions for office apps? |
| 00:14.56 | myren | i dont have the 200mb for OO-writer |
| 00:14.56 | maalox | mmiikkee12: that's what I meant |
| 00:15.11 | nanok | myren: yes. dont use any :). |
| 00:15.13 | abrotman | myren: abiword |
| 00:15.18 | nanok | myren: abiword, gnumeric |
| 00:15.22 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: ok, x-window-system-core installed, do i need to do anythign else before trying again? |
| 00:15.32 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: startx ? :) |
| 00:15.43 | myren | nanok: oh, none is a great suggestions. i'll just send my resume in textfile |
| 00:15.50 | madradrone | what is the best way to compile stuff for sarge under sid? currently i do so in a sarge chroot created wtih debootstrap. |
| 00:15.53 | nanok | myren: latex |
| 00:15.56 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: invalid mem allocation again |
| 00:15.59 | maalox | abrotman: I can't find anything damning in dmesg |
| 00:16.11 | mmiikkee12 | ... and vesa can't find any screens |
| 00:16.29 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: is this sarge or etch? |
| 00:16.35 | myren | i've learned enough programming languages. haskell is about as far out of bounds as i'm willing to play. |
| 00:16.41 | myren | latex is like trying to learn martian |
| 00:16.42 | mmiikkee12 | (WW) ****INVALID MEM ALLOCATION**** b: 0xffe80000 e: 0xffefffff correcting |
| 00:16.43 | mmiikkee12 | (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes |
| 00:16.43 | mmiikkee12 | (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. |
| 00:16.50 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: etch |
| 00:16.57 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: check the bts ? |
| 00:17.00 | mmiikkee12 | bts? |
| 00:17.06 | abrotman | !btssmite mmiikkee12 |
| 00:17.21 | nanok | myren: i disagree. but that is your option. try abiword than |
| 00:17.23 | mmiikkee12 | etch is testing |
| 00:17.29 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: check the bts |
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| 00:17.41 | mmiikkee12 | what's bts? |
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| 00:17.44 | erhanr | while i configure my monitor.i edited xorg and i deleted "dri" |
| 00:17.46 | abrotman | !bts |
| 00:17.46 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 00:18.08 | madradrone | man! continual disconnections. and i'm almost positive its not my connection |
| 00:18.14 | nanok | maalox: do you have networking support at all? :P is the kernel stock debian or hand-built? |
| 00:18.31 | Azar | good day honorables, " anyone " yet read the interview with Eben Moglen? |
| 00:18.42 | abrotman | which of the 10000000 do you mean? |
| 00:18.51 | Azar | :) the latest |
| 00:19.00 | Azar | http://news.com.com/2008-7344_3-6050933.html?part=rss&tag=6050933&subj=news |
| 00:19.16 | madradrone | i notice disconnects almost every time i write something |
| 00:19.21 | maalox | nanok: It's stock, although it may be a funny build since it's a "small" version |
| 00:19.36 | JohnFlux | Hey all |
| 00:19.42 | JohnFlux | I'm trying to install via netinst |
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| 00:19.51 | abrotman | mike4479: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=353020 |
| 00:19.57 | maalox | nanok: Aha I got localhost to respond |
| 00:20.00 | bouncing | Is there a way I can compile just one kernel module? |
| 00:20.10 | nanok | maalox: hm.. never used one of those. didnt knw there were any :) |
| 00:20.13 | mike4479 | abrotman: ok |
| 00:20.15 | nanok | maalox: ? |
| 00:20.18 | madradrone | bouncing: yes |
| 00:20.25 | bouncing | madradrone: how? |
| 00:20.26 | JohnFlux | I've tried 2.4 and 2.6 in both sid and breezy via loadlin, but each time it just says "unable to mount root fs on 01:00" |
| 00:20.29 | maalox | nanok: For ARM machines :) |
| 00:20.35 | JohnFlux | anyone know this error? |
| 00:20.36 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: i forgot, this also happens with all other distros' x servers too (livecds) |
| 00:20.43 | madradrone | bouncing: just recompile your kernel. it will only compile the new module |
| 00:20.46 | mmiikkee12 | invalid mem allocation |
| 00:21.14 | Azar | JohnFlux: what is breezy? |
| 00:21.14 | dos000 | anyone seen cases where sarge dhcp3-server would respond to dhcp request only if there was a dhcp broadcast before ? |
| 00:21.14 | mmiikkee12 | breezy is ubuntu. |
| 00:21.14 | bouncing | madradrone: I'm running the stock kernel. I don't have a set of compiled objects to start with, but I'd like to tell it only to compile the requisites for this one I need rebuilt. |
| 00:21.15 | nanok | JohnFlux: yes. |
| 00:21.16 | mmiikkee12 | !not debian |
| 00:21.17 | dpkg | Knoppix isn't, Ubuntu isn't, Libranet isn't, Morphix isn't, lnx-bbc isn't, *your* installation you have right now ISN'T.... see if there is a channel available relevant to your distribution, if not, tough. Your questions do not belong here! |
| 00:21.21 | abrotman | mike4479: that is your problem exactly |
| 00:21.21 | nanok | JohnFlux: many people do :) |
| 00:21.23 | mike4479 | abrotman: ah ok thanks alot is there a fix on that page aswell |
| 00:21.42 | JohnFlux | nanok: uh sorry I didn't mean breezy |
| 00:21.44 | Azar | JohnFlux: sorry then I have no idea bout ubuntu |
| 00:21.45 | JohnFlux | nanok: the one before sid |
| 00:21.47 | madradrone | bouncing: how can you compile if you don't have the source? |
| 00:21.50 | mmiikkee12 | etch |
| 00:21.54 | abrotman | mike4479: aye .. BTS is a good thing for unstable |
| 00:22.11 | mike4479 | BTS? |
| 00:22.16 | nanok | maalox: what was the issue? |
| 00:22.19 | JohnFlux | sarge |
| 00:22.21 | abrotman | !tell mike4479 about bts |
| 00:22.22 | bouncing | madradrone: I have the source. But if I run make, it'll compile everything. If I run make modules, it'll compile all the modules. I really only need one recompiled and reinstalled. |
| 00:22.33 | maalox | nanok: I added "auto lo" to my /etc/network/interfaces and restarted networking |
| 00:22.35 | JohnFlux | I've tried 2.4 and 2.6 in both sid and sarge via loadlin, but each time it just says "unable to mount root fs on 01:00" |
| 00:22.36 | JohnFlux | :) |
| 00:22.44 | Azar | JohnFlux: did you try installing kernels from repositoires, or just trying compiling your own? |
| 00:22.48 | nanok | JohnFlux: make sure you have your fstab right, and your root= option for the bootloader |
| 00:22.48 | mike4479 | abrotman: ok i think i get it lol |
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| 00:22.52 | maalox | nanok: however adding "auto eth0" didn't seem to fix eth0... |
| 00:23.04 | madradrone | bouncing: if you have a full kernel source that's already been compiled, enabling one module and recompiling will not recompile everything else |
| 00:23.07 | myren | ooooooohhh man, i obliterated all my dates when i moved my documents over to baz! |
| 00:23.10 | myren | frak frak frak |
| 00:23.11 | nanok | maalox: does eth0 have an ip? |
| 00:23.12 | Azar | maalox: you need to restart interfaces after editing |
| 00:23.13 | abrotman | mike4479: when you're running unstable .. lots of stuff will break .. your first stop should always be the bts |
| 00:23.25 | maalox | nanok: Yes |
| 00:23.25 | bouncing | madradrone: Yes, but I have the full kernel source code, and none of it's compiled. |
| 00:23.33 | JohnFlux | Azar: nanok I'm using loadlin, so I download just the initrd.gz and linux |
| 00:23.36 | madradrone | bouncing: well then |
| 00:23.38 | nanok | maalox: is eth0 up? |
| 00:23.39 | JohnFlux | Azar: nanok for netinst |
| 00:23.44 | JohnFlux | Azar: nanok then use loadlin to boot it |
| 00:23.46 | maalox | Azar: I did |
| 00:23.47 | myren | i cant stand how content oriented all the RCS's are, none of them give a rat about the meta; file attributes, ownership, dates, &c |
| 00:23.53 | mike4479 | abrotman: thanks alot that looks like I can build it from run thankyou thankyou thankyou |
| 00:23.57 | maalox | nanok: Well, it's up but I can't ping anything besides myself |
| 00:24.01 | bouncing | madradrone: what I want is to say, "compile what you need for usbserial.ko and that's it" |
| 00:24.09 | abrotman | mike4479: enjoy :) |
| 00:24.16 | eeyore- | this is a valid nick -> ): <- ? |
| 00:24.26 | nanok | maalox: does it have an entry in the routing table now? |
| 00:24.26 | Azar | :) hi eeyore- |
| 00:24.28 | madradrone | bouncing: what you are saying doensn't make sense. a few lines ago you said something like "yeah i'm using a debian kernel" but now you're saying you have a different source |
| 00:24.38 | eeyore- | hey azar |
| 00:24.46 | mike4479 | abrotman: I been playin with the unstable for a week now i live KDE 3.5 |
| 00:24.51 | madradrone | bouncing: either build your own from source or get the source for the debian one you're using |
| 00:24.56 | abrotman | mike4479: yeah .. but stuff still breaks |
| 00:24.57 | mike4479 | love |
| 00:24.59 | Azar | JohnFlux: so you prefer to compile your own kernel? |
| 00:25.00 | mmiikkee12 | eeyore-: test with /nick ): |
| 00:25.05 | bouncing | madradrone: I'm running the stock kernel. Ok? It has modules. I have a patch for one of those modules. I only want to compile that module, not the whole kernel. |
| 00:25.08 | maalox | nanok: Nope |
| 00:25.14 | mike4479 | abrotman: true true |
| 00:25.14 | eeyore- | mmiikkee12: trying to avoid that :-) |
| 00:25.18 | JohnFlux | Azar: no no, I downloaded the netinst (network install) kernel |
| 00:25.25 | JohnFlux | Azar: I'm trying to do a network installation |
| 00:25.30 | madradrone | bouncing: and i just said how to |
| 00:25.34 | nanok | maalox: try to asign an ip via ifconfig, see what happens |
| 00:25.36 | JohnFlux | Azar: install debian from the internet |
| 00:25.39 | eeyore- | wonder why dpkg includes "):" in the op complaint list |
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| 00:25.47 | bouncing | madradrone: So basically I do have to compile it all |
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| 00:25.51 | madradrone | bouncing: unless that debian kernel source isn't compiled? maybe it isn't then. |
| 00:25.55 | mike4479 | abrotman: by for now and thanks agan |
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| 00:26.17 | bouncing | madradrone: I apt-get'd the linux-source package and it dumped a tarball in /usr/src |
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| 00:26.26 | madradrone | bouncing: i guess it wouldn't be. sorry. another reason why i don't use debian kernels. it makes adding modules later a PITA |
| 00:26.40 | bouncing | hm |
| 00:26.52 | Azar | JohnFlux: I do not seem to understand correctly : what are you trying to install via netinstall? Debian or just the kernel? |
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| 00:27.01 | Azar | ah Debian |
| 00:27.06 | nanok | JohnFlux: ok. my advice would be to grab a netinstall iso, at the least. if you are asking the question, than what you are trying to do is very likely way beyond your experience |
| 00:27.22 | Azar | JohnFlux: any special reason you want to install sid? |
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| 00:28.03 | maalox | nanok: I'm not quite sure how to assign an ip... let me see here |
| 00:28.15 | hexppl | hey...I'm trying to multiboot Debian sarge on a PC I have, trying to multiboot with XP Pro...install goes fine, grub installed and all but when it reboots I get a error 17 which according to the grub manual means it's trying to mount a unsupported partition (one of the windows ones perhaps?) although I know I setup linux partitions...how do I fix this? thanks! |
| 00:28.16 | nanok | maalox: ifconfig eth0 some-ip |
| 00:28.17 | madradrone | no my connection isn't dropping. freenode is disconnecting every 5 min. |
| 00:28.19 | nanok | would do |
| 00:28.21 | maalox | nanok: ah ok |
| 00:28.32 | JohnFlux | Azar: I want to install anything |
| 00:28.38 | De_Mon | abrotman asterisk-web-vmail wants libapache-dbi-perl instead of libapache2-dbi-perl2 shouldn't either work? |
| 00:28.38 | JohnFlux | Azar: I just want to boot linux |
| 00:28.47 | JohnFlux | Azar: from there I can upgrade to anything |
| 00:28.54 | Z_God | when I run apt-get upgrade on my Debian Etch system, I get the following error: |
| 00:28.54 | Z_God | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/debianutils_2.15.3_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 00:28.54 | Z_God | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.54 | Z_God | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault. |
| 00:28.54 | Z_God | any idea what is wrong? |
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| 00:28.56 | abrotman | De_Mon: honestly . i'm not sure . it may actually not work |
| 00:28.57 | JohnFlux | nanok: I have only a network connection and windows 98 |
| 00:29.04 | nanok | hexppl: you have more than one hard drive? |
| 00:29.05 | hexppl | hey...I'm trying to multiboot Debian sarge on a PC I have, trying to multiboot with XP Pro...install goes fine, grub installed and all but when it reboots I get a error 17 which according to the grub manual means it's trying to mount a unsupported partition (one of the windows ones perhaps?) although I know I setup linux partitions...how do I fix this? thanks! |
| 00:29.06 | JohnFlux | nanok: I have no choice but a network install :) |
| 00:29.14 | hexppl | yeah |
| 00:29.16 | hexppl | I do |
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| 00:29.20 | Azar | JohnFlux: you should know exactly how many Debian versions are, and what are for. If you install etch or sid, and do NOT know what are they about, you will experience hardships |
| 00:29.28 | madradrone | what crap |
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| 00:29.38 | maalox | nanok: I still get "network is unreachable" errors |
| 00:29.40 | hexppl | the second one is a old one with a old xp install on it...the linux and win I want to multiboot are both on the first HD thio |
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| 00:29.46 | Azar | JohnFlux: try to install Debian 3.1 (Sarge) which is stable with a 2.6 kernel |
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| 00:29.49 | madradrone | is it possible some op is doing this? |
| 00:29.50 | hexppl | and thus both partitions are on the first HD |
| 00:30.03 | abrotman | madradrone: not like ly |
| 00:30.04 | hexppl | so what should I do? |
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| 00:30.07 | De_Mon | strange ass behavior. I should contact the maintainer |
| 00:30.21 | abrotman | !maint asterisk-web-vmail |
| 00:30.23 | dpkg | asterisk-web-vmail: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org> |
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| 00:30.32 | JohnFlux | Azar: I'm not a novice. I'm just trying to install to an embedded system ;) |
| 00:30.39 | maalox | nanok: Wait, I take that back... it doesn't give me errors, ping just times out |
| 00:30.39 | nanok | hexppl: edit menu.lst. the root statement is wrong probably (right at the time of runing linux, wrong at the time bios boots ) |
| 00:30.40 | abrotman | !tell Z_God about paste |
| 00:30.47 | Azar | JohnFlux: ah I see.. ok I am too novice for that |
| 00:30.47 | eeyore- | madradrone: it's more plausible you have sucky ISP |
| 00:30.53 | Z_God | oops sorry, didn't think it was too long |
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| 00:30.58 | JohnFlux | Azar: lol |
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| 00:31.11 | hexppl | where would I find the menu.lst if I try to do this via the terminal on the installer cd? |
| 00:31.14 | JohnFlux | Azar: thanks for helping :) |
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| 00:31.21 | Z_God | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2160 |
| 00:31.21 | madradrone | eeyore-: i have other connections open which aren't being broken |
| 00:31.22 | eeyore- | madradrone: or your router is susceptible to the CTCP bug mentioned recently |
| 00:31.25 | hexppl | and would I need to mount the drive? |
| 00:31.34 | Azar | JohnFlux: you can climb the distros easily after you install the base stable. |
| 00:31.43 | Z_God | any idea what is happening? |
| 00:31.57 | JordiGH | Lalala... browsing through synaptic, marking packages... I love doing groceries! |
| 00:32.07 | erhanr | :P |
| 00:32.09 | nanok | hexppl: you would have to mount the fs where your /boot dir resides, first |
| 00:32.20 | nanok | hexppl: you might be better off using a livecd |
| 00:32.21 | Azar | JohnFlux: I only thought you were a novice and got fooled by idiots who tell newbies to get the "latest" Debian |
| 00:32.28 | hexppl | ah yeah true like knoppix |
| 00:32.29 | abrotman | Z_God: checked the bts? |
| 00:32.36 | Z_God | bts? |
| 00:32.42 | hexppl | hmm...what's the line I should look for? |
| 00:32.43 | Z_God | how do I check that? |
| 00:32.51 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 00:32.52 | abrotman | !bts |
| 00:32.52 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 00:33.09 | Z_God | ah, k :) |
| 00:33.36 | JordiGH | Oh, by the way, please remind me... |
| 00:33.40 | JordiGH | !nvidia |
| 00:33.41 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 00:33.44 | nanok | hexppl: something like root (hd0,0) or similar, and also the root= on the kernel line (but that one should be ok) |
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| 00:33.52 | JordiGH | !nvidia one-liner |
| 00:33.52 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 00:34.17 | Z_God | should I look for dpkg bugs? |
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| 00:34.38 | abrotman | no .. look for bugs on the package you're installing |
| 00:34.44 | Z_God | it seems I can't search the bug descripstions (I can see why) |
| 00:34.51 | Z_God | I'm just doing apt-get upgrade |
| 00:34.58 | nzx | where can i find a good tutorial on hotkeys ? |
| 00:35.07 | Z_God | it also happens with any package I try to install with apt-get install |
| 00:35.54 | cshaman | hi all. |
| 00:36.02 | erhanr | hi cshaman |
| 00:36.11 | Z_God | when I searched google for it, there were suggestions it was bad ram |
| 00:36.25 | Z_God | memtest86 didn't find any errors though |
| 00:36.44 | JaVaSan | i'm trying to do: apt-get install libalgorithm-diff-perl ... but i have a problem: The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 00:36.44 | JaVaSan | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.51 | cshaman | i'm having a bit of trouble with gtk on my debian install. my fonts tend to be too small, and although i changed the themes and the fonts with the "switch" and "switch2" apps, the font is still too small.. |
| 00:36.52 | maalox | nanok: Any other ideas? |
| 00:36.58 | cshaman | here's a screenshot of my desktop: madradrone is it possible some op is doing this? |
| 00:36.58 | cshaman | hexppl and thus both partitions are on the first HD |
| 00:36.58 | cshaman | abrotman madradrone: not like ly |
| 00:36.58 | cshaman | hexppl so what should I do? |
| 00:36.58 | cshaman | * bouncing (n=kkinder@123.sub-70-218-222.myvzw.com) has left #debian |
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| 00:37.21 | JaVaSan | i'm not trying to install mplayer-nogui... why does it occur? |
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| 00:37.30 | cshaman | sorry about that |
| 00:37.32 | nanok | maalox: what ip did you assign? is it from the network on which the ping destination resides? did you get a routing table entry? |
| 00:37.33 | JordiGH | Yay, 708 megabytes to go. Says here it'll take 11 hours. |
| 00:37.36 | cshaman | didn't mean to paste |
| 00:37.38 | zinx | Z_God: could be a bad hard drive :/ |
| 00:37.50 | cshaman | http://lurking.waferbaby.com/snapshot.jpg |
| 00:37.52 | JordiGH | See you in the morning, then! |
| 00:37.54 | Z_God | I'll scan for badblocks then :-/ |
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| 00:38.03 | abrotman | cshaman: ? |
| 00:38.06 | maalox | nanok: Yeah, I gave it a valid ip... the problem seems to have to do with the routing table |
| 00:38.07 | Z_God | it's a laptop, so that would be sucky... |
| 00:38.11 | abrotman | !gtk font size |
| 00:38.11 | dpkg | If gtk1 fonts are fucked and gtk-theme-switch won't fix them, copy a file from /etc/gtk/gtkrc.$LOCALE to ~/.gtkrc and replace the specified font with whatever you like from xfontsel. |
| 00:38.12 | zinx | Z_God: check with smart first |
| 00:38.21 | zinx | Z_God: using smartctl or such |
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| 00:38.40 | hexppl | found, but how can I determine the proper values? |
| 00:38.46 | maalox | nanok: I'm going to try to add my own entry to the routing table :) |
| 00:38.54 | nanok | maalox: you have a wireless router, i take it? |
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| 00:39.02 | Z_God | k |
| 00:39.04 | maalox | nanok: Haha yeah |
| 00:39.25 | nanok | maalox: try first to see if the router can see your wireless interface |
| 00:39.37 | abrotman | madradrone: you have a bad connection |
| 00:39.44 | nanok | maalox: it should have a way to shou you his arp table. most do |
| 00:39.47 | madradrone | guess so |
| 00:40.03 | nanok | maalox: that would be checking the physical link ;) |
| 00:40.10 | hexppl | ?? |
| 00:40.11 | madradrone | :-( |
| 00:40.32 | Azar | maalox, in the news today: a man in canada builds own tower to get high speed connection |
| 00:40.43 | nanok | hexppl: cat /proc/swaps |
| 00:40.43 | abrotman | today? |
| 00:40.48 | Azar | yes |
| 00:40.52 | maalox | nanok: hmm.. well it's actually my university's router, but I could try to set up my laptop as an ap |
| 00:40.52 | nanok | hexppl: and tell us what it says |
| 00:40.57 | maalox | Azar: it almost seems worth it |
| 00:40.59 | Azar | http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30371 |
| 00:41.14 | nanok | maalox: do you have acces to it? |
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| 00:41.28 | nanok | maalox: to its management interface, that is |
| 00:41.32 | Azar | maalox, it might be hardware-wise your problem, try another cable or even your ethernet card might have issues |
| 00:41.35 | maalox | nanok: sadly no |
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| 00:41.54 | hexppl | did cat /proc/swaps ...only came up with /dev/hde6??? |
| 00:41.59 | nanok | Azar: no cable :) |
| 00:42.00 | madradrone | woohoo |
| 00:42.02 | maalox | Azar: I think the card is good... I will have to try it in another computer |
| 00:42.05 | nanok | hexppl: ok |
| 00:42.09 | mike4479 | abrotman: is there an text editor that gives line numbers on the side? |
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| 00:42.19 | nanok | hexppl: what does it say on that line, in menu.lst |
| 00:42.23 | abrotman | uhm .. i think vim can .. or do you mean a GUI one ? |
| 00:42.34 | nanok | mike4479: vim :) |
| 00:42.35 | Azar | maalox: by cable I meant the.. hmm ethernet cable |
| 00:42.40 | erhanr | kate too mike4479 |
| 00:42.42 | mike4479 | ok thanks guys |
| 00:42.46 | nanok | mike4479: most serious ones can, i think |
| 00:42.50 | hexppl | nanok: for debian it says root (hd0,2) |
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| 00:43.35 | hexppl | xp is root (hd0,0) and for the install on the old drive root (1,0) |
| 00:43.49 | nanok | hexppl: ok, run fdisk -l, and tell me what the windows partition is caled (that is, hd?) |
| 00:44.05 | nanok | s/partition/drive with partition |
| 00:44.16 | Z_God | it seemed smart was disabled on my hd |
| 00:44.22 | Z_God | just enabled it with smartctl |
| 00:44.45 | Z_God | it doesn't give much info when I do smartctl /dev/hda though now |
| 00:45.03 | nanok | hexppl: ok, i dont understand? is it hd0,2 or hd1,0 |
| 00:45.21 | nanok | Z_God: try a short test |
| 00:45.24 | hexppl | it says / dev/hde1 2 and 5 , two for new install and one for old (for new, one for OS, other for files) |
| 00:46.10 | hexppl | wait |
| 00:46.18 | hexppl | lemme connect here on knoppix and I'll paste the file |
| 00:46.27 | hexppl | brb |
| 00:46.28 | nanok | hexppl: i still dont understand. what old install, what new, what drive is windows on. you only said one windows one debian, at first |
| 00:46.34 | hexppl | one sec |
| 00:46.35 | hexppl | brb |
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| 00:46.40 | nanok | hexppl: do not paste |
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| 00:46.53 | SimonRaven | ... |
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| 00:47.09 | cunzhang | hi |
| 00:47.34 | Z_God | Testing has begun. |
| 00:47.40 | Z_God | should I wait now? |
| 00:47.44 | nanok | SimonRaven: that will take a while , till/if he figures it out, anyway.. |
| 00:47.56 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 00:48.36 | erhanr | >ping |
| 00:48.38 | nanok | Z_God: no, you should kick the computer a few times, tell it to go faster.. ofc you should wait :) |
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| 00:49.12 | cunzhang | why I compile the kernel so slow in the way in Debian Reference? My computer is C4,256M.having used 50 min |
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| 00:49.45 | nanok | cunzhang: that is fast, especially if it is a 2.6 |
| 00:49.46 | erhanr | C4 ? |
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| 00:50.14 | Azar | what is a C4 computer? |
| 00:50.15 | Z_God | well, the thing is I immediatly got my prompt back |
| 00:50.18 | JordiGH | C4 explosives? |
| 00:50.18 | erhanr | yea |
| 00:50.22 | erhanr | what is it |
| 00:50.23 | cunzhang | nanok,what's wrong ? |
| 00:50.28 | JordiGH | !C4 |
| 00:50.28 | dpkg | somebody said c4 was a high-explosive |
| 00:50.35 | nanok | Z_God: yes, you have to request for the results, when it is done |
| 00:50.35 | Z_God | haven't got any idea what to wait for now, since the program seems to be ended |
| 00:50.39 | Z_God | k |
| 00:50.41 | Azar | maybe is an 1965 Hal |
| 00:50.41 | erhanr | centrino ? :) |
| 00:50.51 | JordiGH | Celeron 4? |
| 00:51.08 | cunzhang | nenok,yes, Celeron4 |
| 00:51.08 | Azar | ahhhhhh an Intel... |
| 00:51.10 | Z_God | can I see the progress somewhere? |
| 00:51.11 | nanok | Z_God: the tests are actually run internally by the drive, afaik, not by the program |
| 00:51.20 | Z_God | ah, k |
| 00:51.22 | nanok | Z_God: man smartctl meanwhile ;) |
| 00:51.28 | Azar | cunzhang: just for the sake of nagging: AMD is faster |
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| 00:51.52 | Z_God | hehe, I'll do that |
| 00:51.57 | nanok | Azar: oh, come on, i know it's fryday-flame-day, but.. |
| 00:51.57 | Z_God | thx for all the help |
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| 00:52.03 | cunzhang | Azar,but I think it should not use so much time |
| 00:52.30 | nanok | cunzhang: again: 50mins is ok, celeron is (relatively) a slow cpu |
| 00:52.30 | JordiGH | Kernel compilation is one of the most resource-intensive tasks you could ask your computer to do. |
| 00:52.31 | Azar | cunzhang: you might have picked a kernel with an architecture NOT for your cpu |
| 00:52.31 | cunzhang | I have remove so much useless thing |
| 00:52.48 | erhanr | hmm maybe it depends what modules you install cunzhang |
| 00:53.07 | cunzhang | Azar,I have set it to Celeron 4 |
| 00:53.20 | Azar | cunzhang: the precompiled kernels you get in the search list give several different 2.6 kernels: for AMD, for AMD64, for Intel CeleronII and III, etc |
| 00:53.27 | mmiikkee12 | ok, more progress on my x problem. x is segfaulting :S |
| 00:53.49 | cunzhang | Azar,I know,I choose Celeron 4/P4 .. |
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| 00:53.56 | nanok | mmiikkee12: are you trying to make life interesting for us? |
| 00:53.58 | nanok | :P |
| 00:54.09 | JordiGH | Wow. X segfaults? I never thought I'd see the day... |
| 00:54.21 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: oh, you weren't here during my x crisis :S |
| 00:54.31 | Azar | cunzhang: so you are installing now a 2.6.x kernel on .. sarge? etch? sid? |
| 00:54.31 | mmiikkee12 | i can't get x to start |
| 00:54.42 | nanok | mmiikkee12: i think i was. you had a lot of competent help, though |
| 00:54.44 | cunzhang | Azar,sarge |
| 00:54.53 | cunzhang | kernel 2.6.15 |
| 00:55.00 | mmiikkee12 | just noticed it was catching signal 11 |
| 00:55.01 | Azar | cunzhang: holly molly |
| 00:55.03 | Z_God | crap, I now see this: Warning: device does not support Self Test Logging |
| 00:55.04 | mmiikkee12 | aka segfault |
| 00:55.18 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: i know, but it still doesn't work ;) |
| 00:55.18 | Azar | cunzhang: that means you are compiling on your own |
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| 00:55.30 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 00:55.30 | nanok | Z_God: :). try good-ol' badblocks |
| 00:55.37 | Z_God | k :) |
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| 00:55.42 | cunzhang | Azar,?? sorry,my English so poor |
| 00:55.44 | nanok | Z_God: badblocks -sv /dev/hd? |
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| 00:55.55 | nekostar | eh |
| 00:55.57 | nekostar | i screwed up !_! |
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| 00:56.06 | Azar | cunzhang: the max kernel version for the SArge Stable is 2.6.8. |
| 00:56.07 | nekostar | i accedentally did killall sshd on my remote server, |
| 00:56.09 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, I have successfully installed the Moodin theme engine. It is works with KDE in the Etch distro. Whenever I go to the Control Center | Appearance & Themes | Splash Screen the MoodinKDE is listed there and can be selected and applied with no problems. My question is what is the file extension that is recognized by this splash screen program? I was not able to manually add this theme but is was added automatically. |
| 00:56.17 | nekostar | now i cannot axx through ssh of course... |
| 00:56.21 | Azar | cunzhang: 2.6.15 is for etch or sid ( the unstable versions) |
| 00:56.23 | Z_God | badblocks is working :) |
| 00:56.23 | nekostar | i still have ftp access and um |
| 00:56.25 | mmiikkee12 | crazy idea: is there a replacement for x? |
| 00:56.28 | nanok | mmiikkee12: is it possible that something is very wrong with your hardware? |
| 00:56.30 | nekostar | tahts about it |
| 00:56.32 | SimonRaven | axx? |
| 00:56.34 | cunzhang | Azar,I add the testing source |
| 00:56.36 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: it worked before... |
| 00:56.36 | nekostar | is there a way to restart something like that |
| 00:56.40 | nekostar | axx == access |
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| 00:56.46 | nanok | mmiikkee12: does a livecd work? |
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| 00:56.51 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: i don't use kde .. i'd suspect it's in a certain directory though |
| 00:56.51 | mmiikkee12 | i just got my net connection turned back on |
| 00:56.55 | hexppl | k back sorry |
| 00:56.55 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: no |
| 00:56.57 | ribnitz | Latex is sleeping. How do I do a Latex doc that has hyperlinks and other nifty stuff in the pdf, but not in the dvi? |
| 00:57.00 | Azar | cunzhang: good luck , myself never tried to get a 2.6.15 kernel for my Sarge box |
| 00:57.08 | mmiikkee12 | x on gentoo livecd crashed the same way |
| 00:57.09 | nanok | mmiikkee12: try memtest for starters |
| 00:57.14 | hexppl | you can see the menu.lst file debian created here: http://www.moiress.com/menu.lst.txt |
| 00:57.19 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: is that a linux app? |
| 00:57.22 | cunzhang | Azar,it should a mixed Debian,more Sarge |
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| 00:57.50 | nanok | mmiikkee12: and btw, where the f does one get a gentoo livecd , except for the america's army crap and similar? |
| 00:57.53 | cunzhang | Azar,so I say it's Sarge. |
| 00:57.58 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: gentoo site |
| 00:57.58 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, there is a button with which to add themes, but I have not as yet been able to get it to recognize anything to add to the list of themes. |
| 00:58.05 | mzilikazi | just wondering how a dir for apache2 is commonly set up, /var/www is the standard root dir for apache but user cannot write to this dir - should i just link a dir from ~ into /var/www like ~/homenet.org and put everything in there or is there a better way? |
| 00:58.05 | nekostar | any clues on that? |
| 00:58.14 | mmiikkee12 | 2006.0 isntalls from a livecd |
| 00:58.17 | Azar | cunzhang: I am not familiar with the concept of "more Sarge" . Sarge is the stable , frozen distro. If you "mix up" you get more like "testing" aka Etch |
| 00:58.20 | nanok | mmiikkee12: it is. but it is also a bootable version, which i recomend first. it is included with the knoppix cd |
| 00:58.35 | mmiikkee12 | erm |
| 00:58.54 | mmiikkee12 | or do i want memtest86+? |
| 00:59.00 | Azar | cunzhang: if your new 2.6.15 kernel will not work, stay with the 2.6.8 kernel is good enough |
| 00:59.01 | nanok | mmiikkee12: yeah, i know that. but there is no x? well, not much at all, really |
| 00:59.02 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: i really don't use kde .. maybe ask #debian-kde |
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| 00:59.11 | cunzhang | Azar,Ok |
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| 00:59.40 | nanok | mmiikkee12: you should get the + i think. but i _do_ recommend you but it straight up |
| 00:59.48 | hexppl | sorry, client crashed |
| 01:00.00 | nanok | mmiikkee12: it is not the current computer you are connected from.. |
| 01:00.00 | hexppl | so...any idea on what needs to be fixed now that you can see the menu.lst file? |
| 01:00.01 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, thanks. I have asked in #debian-kde but I suppose no one is monitoring that channel for I have not received any response. Could it be my breath? |
| 01:00.02 | nanok | is it? |
| 01:00.04 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: it says real mode, i kinda have to ;) |
| 01:00.11 | cunzhang | Azar,I apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15,but so much thing I needn't ,so I compile it,but so slow |
| 01:00.22 | erhanr | hexppl what says your fdisk -l command |
| 01:00.31 | hexppl | sec |
| 01:00.36 | erhanr | you just pasted menu.lst there link |
| 01:00.38 | karma | can someone point me to some information on automating backups to a remote server? |
| 01:01.09 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: just wait .. or try #kde |
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| 01:01.34 | nanok | hexppl: sorry. missed that |
| 01:01.39 | nanok | hexppl: i'm looking now |
| 01:02.07 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: ok, brb, trying memtest86+ |
| 01:02.44 | hexppl | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.53 | nanok | hexppl: ok, from which of the drives do you boot? |
| 01:03.09 | nanok | hexppl: the one that also has linux on it or the one with windows only? |
| 01:03.20 | hexppl | the one that also has linux |
| 01:03.33 | nanok | hexppl: are you sure? |
| 01:03.37 | JordiGH | Do you mean... GNU/Linux? :P |
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| 01:04.27 | abrotman | madradrone: have you tried any thing other than irc? does everything quit? |
| 01:04.35 | hexppl | yeah...the linux part is debian |
| 01:04.56 | hexppl | I'm trying to multiboot from the drive that has the two windows partitions and the two linux partitions on it |
| 01:04.58 | erhanr | oh boy |
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| 01:05.06 | hexppl | what's wrong with that? |
| 01:05.09 | erhanr | there says its /dev/hde3 |
| 01:05.12 | erhanr | it must be hda |
| 01:05.13 | nanok | hexppl: yes, that i understand |
| 01:05.29 | Z_God | Doorloop voltooid, 0 slechte blokken gevonden. |
| 01:05.35 | Z_God | no bad blocks |
| 01:05.37 | nanok | erhanr: not necesarly |
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| 01:05.42 | hexppl | oh, /dev/hdf is the other drive |
| 01:05.44 | Aghaster | does anybody know an hex editor that supports utf-8? |
| 01:05.46 | hexppl | just noticed |
| 01:05.56 | hexppl | so /dev/hde is all the drive I want to boot from |
| 01:06.00 | nanok | hexppl: from fdisk -l, what is the name of the windows-only drive? |
| 01:06.01 | erhanr | ye nanok |
| 01:06.06 | erhanr | oh ok |
| 01:06.07 | erhanr | :) |
| 01:06.09 | Z_God | seems my hardware is ok, I'm wondering what else could cause this then |
| 01:06.11 | nanok | hexppl: ok |
| 01:06.22 | JordiGH | Hey, can someone remember the name of that nifty OpenGL app for cruising through the universe? It actually uses real star data and let's you "pilot" a spaceship at superluminar speeds. |
| 01:06.25 | Z_God | is there any command to check apt's database for errors? |
| 01:06.34 | navarr | can someone please help? I did not setup with gnome, but instead installed kde later. Does anyone know how to get it running? |
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| 01:06.40 | hexppl | dev/hde1 and /dev/hde5 |
| 01:06.42 | erhanr | yea hexppl when paste your command we can understand better |
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| 01:07.11 | nanok | hexppl: are there three partitions on hdf? |
| 01:07.12 | Z_God | navarr: apt-get install kdm ? |
| 01:07.18 | Zrin | what debian version shall i use to try installing oracle 10g? |
| 01:07.20 | navarr | Z_God: What is kdm? |
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| 01:07.30 | hexppl | just one for the old xp install...it' /dev/hdf1 |
| 01:07.31 | Z_God | K Display Manager |
| 01:07.37 | navarr | Z_God: k, thx |
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| 01:07.39 | hexppl | *it's |
| 01:07.42 | Z_God | allows graphics log-ons |
| 01:07.47 | nanok | hexppl: ok |
| 01:07.48 | JordiGH | navarr: The gnome-session manager should have a pull-down menu that lets you select which desktop environment you want. |
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| 01:08.06 | TinoW | hi |
| 01:08.07 | navarr | JordiGH: I didn't install a GUI at initial setup |
| 01:08.07 | JordiGH | navarr: Alternatively, you can use kdm. apt-get and then dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 01:08.15 | nanok | hexppl: i think i know what it is, let me think for a minute, to make sure (havent slept for a while, and stuff) |
| 01:08.30 | JordiGH | navarr: Er, but do you have one now? Apt shouldn't let you install KDE without installing X. |
| 01:08.36 | nanok | hexppl: ;) |
| 01:08.38 | hexppl | ok |
| 01:08.44 | navarr | JordiGH: Then reboot? I just installed KDM. and reconfigured it with dpkg |
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| 01:08.48 | hexppl | lemme know |
| 01:08.59 | Z_God | you don't need an local X server for KDE |
| 01:09.07 | JordiGH | navarr: Then just start it. kdm. As root. You hardly ever need to reboot in Linux. :) |
| 01:09.08 | Z_God | it should only install X11 libs |
| 01:09.12 | TinoW | I have a partition with debian, when I mount it, I can see /bin/bash, /bin/sh etc. with resonable file size and permissions. Yet when I chroot /mnt/thepartition /bin/sh it says: file not found |
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| 01:09.26 | TinoW | its a ext3fs partition, I did fsck and stuff... |
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| 01:09.43 | nanok | hexppl: ok, replace, for the debina section, hd0,2 with hd1,2 |
| 01:09.57 | hexppl | ah ok |
| 01:09.58 | nanok | hexppl: save the file and try again |
| 01:10.00 | hexppl | will try |
| 01:10.04 | hexppl | ok thanks |
| 01:10.14 | nanok | hexppl: if you are curious, i will explain what happened , later ;) |
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| 01:10.26 | nanok | hope i'm right.. :P |
| 01:10.33 | erhanr | :) |
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| 01:11.00 | erhanr | hd1,2 could be a bit wronf |
| 01:11.03 | erhanr | g* |
| 01:11.26 | nanok | erhanr: why do you think so? |
| 01:11.27 | TinoW | anything I can check? |
| 01:11.41 | JordiGH | I think my astronomy program is Celestia... Lemme see... |
| 01:11.43 | ParoXsitiC | Within the last hour my linux box wasnt connect to apache right so i decided to reboot, upon rebooting now mY DHCP isnt working nor ar emy IPtables. IPtables might be related to the DHCP so ill post that problem |
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| 01:11.54 | erhanr | coz didnt he 5 ? |
| 01:12.01 | nanok | erhanr: and there is no bit, incidently: it is either wrong or right/ works or not ;) |
| 01:12.08 | ParoXsitiC | socket: address family not support by protocal. make sure CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER are enabled in kernal |
| 01:12.12 | Z_God | hmm, the apt how-to doesn't give much info about my problem either |
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| 01:12.30 | Z_God | nobody aware of any command to check for errors in apt's database? |
| 01:12.30 | erhanr | well actually if he paste here command out it could be better |
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| 01:12.59 | erhanr | oh my cornflakes is meltin . |
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| 01:13.11 | nanok | erhanr: no, he has the / of the debian system on hde3, the installer configuring grub didnt get it _that_ wrong, it didnt get it wrong at all, actually, allthough that is a bit of a bug.. |
| 01:13.37 | navarr | JordiGH: I launch "kdm" and nothing happens |
| 01:13.40 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: hmm, memtest86+ hung at test #3 |
| 01:13.57 | erhanr | hmm yea |
| 01:14.00 | nanok | mmiikkee12: oooh. not good |
| 01:14.06 | mmiikkee12 | (it was nanok that said run memtest86 right?) |
| 01:14.15 | nanok | mmiikkee12: have you tryed once more, to be sure it wasnt some glitch? |
| 01:14.21 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: yeah |
| 01:14.28 | mmiikkee12 | tried twice |
| 01:14.31 | nanok | erhanr: oh, shut up |
| 01:14.32 | nanok | :P |
| 01:14.44 | JordiGH | navarr: Ok, and if you "startx" what happens? |
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| 01:14.57 | nanok | mmiikkee12: and it did the same thing? locked at the same test? |
| 01:15.18 | erhanr | i forgot cornflakes it s been 5 hrs :) |
| 01:15.22 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: yeah, 0% on test 3 |
| 01:15.26 | nanok | mmiikkee12: (i have seen many "interesting" things from metest, never saw complete lock, though, i think |
| 01:15.27 | hexppl | wtf I still get that error |
| 01:15.37 | navarr | JordiGH: Problems with "xserverrc" do i need to apt-get install xserverrc? |
| 01:15.42 | hexppl | :( |
| 01:15.59 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: it was also blinking my *lock leds, is that normal? |
| 01:16.01 | nanok | mmiikkee12: if you happen to have some other suithing ram at hand, and can open the box and swap it, try that |
| 01:16.02 | JordiGH | Hmm... you DID apt-get xserver-xorg, didn't you? |
| 01:16.07 | JordiGH | Just do that right now. |
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| 01:16.15 | navarr | JordiGH: kk, ill do it |
| 01:16.28 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: no, i have one 32mb stick and i'm not sure of any other specs on it |
| 01:16.31 | nanok | mmiikkee12: if you can open but have no rma, try to put the existen one in another slot, or remove one of the bars, if there are more |
| 01:16.49 | mmiikkee12 | i have a 32mb and a 128mb stick, no empty slots |
| 01:16.52 | nanok | mmiikkee12: no, that is also really strange |
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| 01:17.05 | ParoXsitiC | socket: address family not support by protocal. make sure CONFIG_PACKET and CONFIG_FILTER are enabled in kernal |
| 01:17.07 | ParoXsitiC | any help? |
| 01:17.07 | nanok | mmiikkee12: ok, lose the 128, first |
| 01:17.12 | mmiikkee12 | erm |
| 01:17.15 | hexppl | nanok: no go...it still gives me that error |
| 01:17.19 | nanok | mmiikkee12: the 32 will take very litle to test |
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| 01:17.39 | nanok | hexppl: paste the err again, please |
| 01:17.39 | mmiikkee12 | can't take it out, i dual boot with window$ |
| 01:17.46 | hexppl | ok one sec |
| 01:17.48 | nanok | hexppl: or type it, |
| 01:17.53 | mmiikkee12 | (you know, the memory hog) |
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| 01:17.57 | JordiGH | Dual booting... is that like a nicotine patch? |
| 01:17.58 | Z_God | hmm, I think I found the error already! |
| 01:18.00 | Z_God | ?--------- 1 126 root 3676912965 2006-02-18 12:33 libc6.list |
| 01:18.04 | navarr | JordiGH: xserver-xorg is not a valid apt-get... |
| 01:18.08 | Z_God | wonder how that happened |
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| 01:18.19 | nanok | mmiikkee12: just to memtest, and maybe find the guilty one ;) |
| 01:18.26 | JordiGH | navarr: Are you using the stable distro? I think Sarge uses xserver-xfree86 instead. |
| 01:18.33 | navarr | kk, brb |
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| 01:18.39 | hexppl | GRUB loading stage1.5 ...GRUB loading please wait... Error 17 |
| 01:18.55 | nanok | hexppl: ah. ok |
| 01:19.00 | mmiikkee12 | hexppl: error 17 is... i dunno, google it |
| 01:19.05 | mmiikkee12 | can't mount partition i thing |
| 01:19.07 | mmiikkee12 | *think |
| 01:19.17 | nanok | hexppl: oh, wait. i lost track of what the problem initially was :/ |
| 01:19.24 | nanok | mmiikkee12: yes, it is |
| 01:19.30 | nanok | mmiikkee12: he did google for it |
| 01:19.32 | hexppl | I know what it is... |
| 01:19.33 | mmiikkee12 | oh |
| 01:19.34 | hexppl | 17 : Cannot mount selected partition |
| 01:19.35 | nanok | i rememebr now |
| 01:19.59 | mmiikkee12 | hmm |
| 01:20.02 | nanok | hexppl: hm |
| 01:20.05 | nanok | hahah |
| 01:20.09 | hexppl | ? |
| 01:20.24 | mmiikkee12 | well, i don't have much of a choice, but i don't have money to replace any of my ram |
| 01:20.29 | nanok | hexppl: you need to reinstall grub, i fear |
| 01:20.48 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: grub-install /dev/hda |
| 01:20.49 | hexppl | mmikkee12: get it off eBay, comes very cheaply there ;) |
| 01:20.50 | mmiikkee12 | oops |
| 01:20.54 | mmiikkee12 | >>hexppl |
| 01:20.56 | nanok | mmiikkee12: well, before thinking about that, you should first _know_ ;) |
| 01:21.05 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: i know that |
| 01:21.07 | mmiikkee12 | :) |
| 01:21.08 | hexppl | where should I do that command from? |
| 01:21.15 | mmiikkee12 | hexppl: terminal |
| 01:21.18 | mmiikkee12 | as root |
| 01:21.26 | nanok | hexppl: livecd would do, but it is not really that simple |
| 01:21.36 | hexppl | oh? |
| 01:21.50 | hexppl | how would I go about reinstalling grub? |
| 01:21.54 | mmiikkee12 | oops |
| 01:21.58 | mmiikkee12 | window$ |
| 01:22.01 | dvs | hexppl: grub-install |
| 01:22.02 | mmiikkee12 | hmm |
| 01:22.15 | hexppl | yes but nanok said it wasn't that easy (dvs) |
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| 01:22.32 | mmiikkee12 | window% - it only has a small % of linux's performance :) |
| 01:22.34 | nanok | hexppl: mount your root fs (like mount /dev/hde3 /mnt/something) , grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/something (hd0) |
| 01:22.35 | dvs | hexppl: Oh? reinstall the package? |
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| 01:23.13 | nanok | dvs: no, not the package |
| 01:23.15 | navarr | JordiGH: I did that now.. xfree86.. it flashed the screen a couple of times after launching "kdm" and it said something about lockup and such.. |
| 01:23.32 | hexppl | should doing grub-install off knoppix work? |
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| 01:23.48 | nanok | hexppl: yes, it should, the way i told you above |
| 01:24.01 | hexppl | ok |
| 01:24.30 | hexppl | so like if it's hde3 I'd do grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hde3? |
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| 01:25.00 | nanok | and this _is_ a bug of the installer, btw. i should report one of these days (well, the installer is not at fault, really, but it should be smarter) |
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| 01:25.17 | hexppl | and I'd naturally want to do this to the linux partiton and not the first winxp partition? |
| 01:25.33 | nanok | hexppl: you would first have to mount hde3, and by the command i showed you, not just mount /dev/hde3 |
| 01:25.42 | hexppl | kk |
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| 01:26.02 | hexppl | luckily in knoppix I just have to click the hd and it mounts XP |
| 01:26.03 | seto | hi , I have do some mistake trying to install xorg with evdev support, mixed experimental and unstable, but now I wan't to reinstall all the paquet from unstable branch, and I have error (conflicts trying to remove /usr/lib/X11 .. ) , how can I do to reinstall all the paquet from unstable branche ignoring all errors ? |
| 01:26.09 | navarr | JordiGH: I did that now.. xfree86.. it flashed the screen a couple of times after launching "kdm" and it said something about lockup and such.. |
| 01:26.14 | ptm` | hi all. i have a new etch installation, wifi is not working (an ipw2200). There is no useful messages in the logs (only the copyright banner). Any suggestions? |
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| 01:26.16 | hexppl | and this bootloader issue is known? :-i |
| 01:26.26 | nanok | hexppl: not important. it will install to mbr, nothing to do with partition (nothing destructive, that is) |
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| 01:26.51 | nanok | !tell seto about downgrade |
| 01:27.03 | seto | !downgrade |
| 01:27.03 | dpkg | somebody said downgrade was not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. |
| 01:27.29 | abrotman | seto: you'll have to wait |
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| 01:27.40 | abrotman | seto: you can purge all the X packages . and try .. but don't count on it working |
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| 01:28.04 | seto | arf .. ok I try to purge all the package |
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| 01:28.11 | ttongfly | hi~ |
| 01:28.16 | ttongfly | i from s.korea |
| 01:28.34 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: i can read now :D |
| 01:28.37 | erhanr | hi ttongfly |
| 01:28.38 | mmiikkee12 | back in windows |
| 01:28.49 | mmiikkee12 | now |
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| 01:28.54 | ttongfly | hmmmm |
| 01:28.58 | nanok | mmiikkee12: ? |
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| 01:29.29 | mmiikkee12 | i still don't know what's wrong with x. |
| 01:29.43 | abrotman | is this a laptop ? |
| 01:29.54 | nanok | mmiikkee12: tryed to pull that ram stunt?.. |
| 01:29.55 | hexppl | did grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hde3 after mounting and it said install_device not specified??? |
| 01:30.10 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: no, i can't get the **** thing out |
| 01:30.21 | seto | ok not purging, trying with all experimental package |
| 01:30.30 | nanok | hexppl: yes. couse you didnt specify it |
| 01:30.32 | mmiikkee12 | it's got a bunch of cables running over the ram |
| 01:30.34 | JordiGH | navarr, you still there? |
| 01:30.41 | seto | my /etc/X11/X point to /bin/true, what packet must I install ? |
| 01:30.45 | nanok | it is the last argument: "(hd0)" |
| 01:30.49 | seto | !X |
| 01:30.50 | hexppl | should I do grub-install /mnt/hde3 --root-directory=/mnt/hde3?? |
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| 01:30.52 | nanok | hexppl: |
| 01:31.09 | nanok | hexppl: see what i said above |
| 01:31.14 | nanok | hexppl: it is the last argument: "(hd0)" |
| 01:31.15 | ptm` | does anybody know where to put firmware in an etch system? |
| 01:31.25 | abrotman | firmware for what? |
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| 01:31.29 | nanok | ptm`: huh?! |
| 01:31.31 | hexppl | grub-install (hd0) --root-directory=/mnt/hde3? |
| 01:31.57 | ptm` | abrotman: firmware for ipw2200 wifi |
| 01:31.59 | nanok | hexppl: last. on the tail |
| 01:32.02 | loggygreg | ptm`: /lib/firmware/s |
| 01:32.09 | abrotman | ptm`: read the docs for the module ? |
| 01:32.10 | nanok | hexppl: and do use the quotes |
| 01:32.17 | loggygreg | ptm`: /lib/firmware/ sorry... |
| 01:32.23 | hexppl | hmm? where? |
| 01:32.28 | hexppl | (for quotes) |
| 01:32.31 | cjaymes | does anyone know of a degree specifically in audio visual engineering? |
| 01:32.33 | nanok | hexppl: "(hd0)" |
| 01:32.36 | hexppl | oh kk |
| 01:32.40 | cjaymes | I don't think it exists, but... |
| 01:32.50 | erhanr | or nanok that grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hde3 /dev/hde |
| 01:32.55 | erhanr | isnt it ? |
| 01:32.57 | ttongfly | where a u from? |
| 01:33.00 | JordiGH | Damn, I love debugging X servers. No joke. I would so have loved to get navarr's X server up. |
| 01:33.25 | nanok | erhanr: yes, that would do too. better this way though |
| 01:33.31 | abrotman | ttongfly: this is not a social channel |
| 01:33.42 | ttongfly | okay |
| 01:33.44 | nanok | erhanr: helps one keep in mind the naming scheme of grub ;) |
| 01:33.44 | lawnchair | abrotman, that was rude |
| 01:33.45 | ptm` | abrotman: fair call about reading, but my eyes are already watering :-( the documentation mainly talks about hotplug... and the udev/hotplug thing is confusing |
| 01:33.50 | navarr | JordiGH: yt? |
| 01:33.52 | scarynetworkguy | !distract abrotman |
| 01:33.53 | abrotman | lawnchair: no it wasn't |
| 01:33.57 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: It is now! |
| 01:33.57 | erhanr | :) |
| 01:33.58 | bucky | cjaymes: DeVry? |
| 01:33.58 | lawnchair | abrotman, it was indeed |
| 01:34.03 | seto | hmm , I try to apt-get upgrade -t experimental .. I think I have luck today so I try :D |
| 01:34.05 | abrotman | lawnchair: piss off |
| 01:34.18 | lawnchair | that wasnt very nice either |
| 01:34.22 | dvs | o_O |
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| 01:34.24 | abrotman | go cry |
| 01:34.26 | nanok | lawnchair: uh? can you imagine 500 users all saying where each is from? |
| 01:34.31 | scarynetworkguy | !bofhsmite lawnchair |
| 01:34.34 | piero | Is it possible to grow a jfs filesystem? |
| 01:34.34 | lawnchair | heh |
| 01:34.39 | abrotman | lawnchair: if you want a date with ttongfly .. /msg it |
| 01:34.46 | lawnchair | you are all workedup |
| 01:34.47 | lawnchair | relax |
| 01:34.55 | JordiGH | navarr: Ok, cat /var/log/X-something-something.log The last bit should say what the problem is (sounds like a bad video driver.) |
| 01:35.02 | navarr | JordiGH: [drm:i830_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 131056 wanted 131064 {/n} [drm:i830_wait_ring] *ERROR* lockup |
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| 01:35.19 | ya | hello? |
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| 01:35.29 | JordiGH | Oh, wait, you actually get an error on screen? |
| 01:35.40 | hexppl | lol it completed but I still get that error >< |
| 01:35.42 | ya | i jus wanna talk |
| 01:35.48 | navarr | JordiGH: yea, i just pasted it |
| 01:35.54 | hexppl | damn it |
| 01:36.02 | karma | can someone point me to some information on automating backups to a remote server? |
| 01:36.10 | hexppl | am I supposed to delete the grub folder first or something? |
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| 01:36.21 | ptm` | loggygreg: thanks - files already in /lib/firmware, still no joy |
| 01:36.23 | abrotman | karma: there are many applications in debian |
| 01:36.29 | nanok | hexppl: how the f does it go so fast? what kind of computer is that? |
| 01:36.31 | ya | can we just talk about anything? |
| 01:36.36 | cjaymes | bucky, don't see; would it be equivalent to electrical engineer, etc? |
| 01:36.39 | abrotman | ya: this is not a social channel |
| 01:36.44 | navarr | JordiGHL would the i830 be a problem considering im using i386 (i thnk) |
| 01:36.48 | hexppl | dunno...it took like 5 seconds and said it was done |
| 01:36.55 | hexppl | perhaps because the grub folder was there? |
| 01:37.06 | navarr | JordiGH: would the i830 be a problem considering im using i386 (i thnk) *** |
| 01:37.09 | karma | abrotman: can you give me a couple to check out |
| 01:37.11 | nanok | hexppl: i mean booting/rebooting |
| 01:37.14 | ya | so u dont just make freinds? |
| 01:37.17 | bucky | cjaymes: it came up on google along with the Phoenix University.. i don't know |
| 01:37.29 | nanok | ya: nope. |
| 01:37.29 | abrotman | ya: this channel is for support of Debian |
| 01:37.32 | dvm1981 | How can i define an image background in fluxbox? |
| 01:37.34 | loggygreg | ptm`: so i don't know then ... |
| 01:37.35 | hexppl | oh, because the BIOS loads really fast since no devices are attatched through it but rather the ATA adapters BIOS |
| 01:37.42 | abrotman | karma: amanda? |
| 01:37.43 | JordiGH | navarr, what is your kernel? |
| 01:37.45 | hexppl | and the ata adapters BIOS is fast |
| 01:37.46 | ya | darn im out |
| 01:37.51 | cjaymes | bucky, hmm, I'm not having much luck finding anything major with google |
| 01:37.52 | karma | abrotman: ty |
| 01:37.55 | hexppl | just searches for the drives..finds and boots |
| 01:37.58 | abrotman | karma: bacula ? |
| 01:38.02 | nkuttler | dvm1981: fbsetbg iirc, rtfdocs |
| 01:38.02 | cjaymes | if it isn't on google it doesn't exist? |
| 01:38.03 | navarr | JordiGH: The latest sarge available on apt-get |
| 01:38.15 | navarr | JordiGH: i think its 2.4 something? |
| 01:38.17 | hexppl | (ram count and such is disabled to speed up booting too) |
| 01:38.23 | dvm1981 | nkuttler: thanks |
| 01:38.26 | JordiGH | navarr: I think that's 2.4.27-speakup. Print uname -a to me, please. |
| 01:38.33 | streuner | dvm1981: xsetbg |
| 01:38.35 | nanok | abrotman: wtf? is yahoo dates out of business? |
| 01:38.36 | navarr | JordiGH: alright, brb |
| 01:38.45 | abrotman | nanok: or they're trolls |
| 01:38.46 | nanok | or whatever the .. it's called |
| 01:38.51 | ptm` | is there a way to tell if firmware is loading? what messages should I expect? |
| 01:38.53 | dvm1981 | streuner: Thanks ;-) |
| 01:39.17 | abrotman | nanok: like from #ubuntu |
| 01:39.18 | nanok | abrotman: or just one. nm |
| 01:39.30 | cjaymes | kind of amusing really |
| 01:39.48 | hexppl | the specs itself are a AMD Athlon-K6 600MHz comp, 128MB RAM...133/ATA PCI adapter card which can do RAID too (Sil chip), 2 HDs, one a old 20GB that came with the comp and is slaved and a 300GB new one that I'm trying to get win and linux to work on both are connected through the ATA adapter...the cd drive is through the motherboard IDE tho |
| 01:39.50 | cjaymes | trying to get dates in a computer help channel...but then, I'm weird |
| 01:39.51 | nanok | hexppl: ok, leme think |
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| 01:39.52 | ptm` | karma: i rather like rsync, and roll my own scripts |
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| 01:40.24 | navarr | JordiGH: kk, here: Linux gtaero.net 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:40.27 | nkuttler | ptm`: should be in syslog |
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| 01:40.48 | Ashex | I chose a Vga display instead of Vesa during the final phase of setup of debian. How do I change it to VESA? |
| 01:40.49 | ptm` | nkuttler: do you have an example? |
| 01:40.58 | hexppl | oh and of course...it was ebayed and thus has some mystery gateway motherboard and bios...which can't be IDed and thus the BIOS on the mobo can't be upgraded >< |
| 01:40.58 | nanok | hexppl: amdk6? wow. my 1st one was an amd k6. i ditched it for a (lower freq) pentium 2. it kicked its ass |
| 01:41.04 | abrotman | !drxx Ashex |
| 01:41.04 | dpkg | Ashex: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:41.15 | ptm` | cjaymes: better than trying to get computer help on a date... |
| 01:41.18 | nanok | hexppl: nevermind that. will bb really soon |
| 01:41.21 | karma | ptm`: I am pretty new.... not sure I am ready to roll my own scripts |
| 01:41.22 | loggygreg | Ashex: X or console ? |
| 01:41.23 | nkuttler | ptm`: probably depends on what kind of device you use. /var/log/syslog.5.gz:Mar 11 15:30:41 localhost kernel: eth1: uploading firmware... |
| 01:41.28 | hexppl | meh, I use a PowerBook G4 for the vast majority of my computing (am right now) |
| 01:41.33 | JordiGH | navarr: It's a shot in the dark, but are you willing to update to a 2.6 kernel? I have no idea if this will fix your problem, though. And you ARE using the right brand of Debian? For i386 architecture? |
| 01:41.44 | hexppl | that PC is just for playing with so it doesn't matter how good it is to me |
| 01:41.47 | ptm` | karma: in which case, suggest 'aptitude search backup' and pick one. |
| 01:41.57 | hexppl | was $90 in a working condition so that's a bargen IMO |
| 01:42.02 | hexppl | (in great condition too) |
| 01:42.07 | navarr | JordiGH: yea, im using the right architecture debian.. how do i upgrade to the 2.6 kernal over apt-get? |
| 01:42.10 | karma | ptm`: ty |
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| 01:42.24 | abrotman | navarr: what's your CPU ? |
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| 01:42.32 | navarr | abrotman: ? |
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| 01:42.39 | d4t2ilL4 | how can I see the kernel boot log? |
| 01:42.40 | ptm` | nkuttler: hmmm, mine is a ipw2200 and is worryingly quiet in the log department |
| 01:42.44 | abrotman | you know . .the little brain that makes your computer work :) |
| 01:42.45 | d4t2ilL4 | i mean where is it located? |
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| 01:42.51 | cjaymes | hmmm, should I buy my ibm r31 if my boss sells it to me for $50? |
| 01:42.52 | abrotman | dmesg |
| 01:42.55 | JordiGH | navarr: apt-cache search kernel-image. Then read through the list to see a kernel image with 2.6 in its name. Sarge *should* have one. |
| 01:42.59 | hexppl | and then I got me a nice HP NetServer LH3R in working and booting order too to play with XD |
| 01:43.10 | loggygreg | d4t2ilL4: dmesg |
| 01:43.11 | cjaymes | it sucks as a windows machine, but with debian it might have a new life |
| 01:43.13 | hexppl | that was only $100...and it has dual processors and 1GB RAM and 6 9GB HDs |
| 01:43.24 | d4t2ilL4 | loggygreg, oh okay, thanks you |
| 01:43.25 | abrotman | navarr: what kind of CPU is in your computer? |
| 01:43.36 | nanok | hexppl: can you tell me what your root statement at the beggining of the debian section is right now, exactly? |
| 01:43.42 | navarr | abrotman: umm, Pentium 4 would bve the right anoswer, no? |
| 01:43.46 | d4t2ilL4 | its an athlon 64 3800 dual core |
| 01:43.50 | hexppl | ok one sec... |
| 01:43.56 | abrotman | navarr: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 01:43.58 | hexppl | lemme start up knoppix again |
| 01:44.05 | navarr | abrotman: kk, thx |
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| 01:44.14 | dannythm | hello |
| 01:44.16 | ptm` | loggygreg: or if dmesg has filled up, you can see a copy of that information in /var/log/syslog |
| 01:44.18 | nanok | hexppl: ooh, _that_ is nice |
| 01:44.23 | dannythm | can anyone answer me an stupid question? |
| 01:44.27 | JordiGH | abrotman: That's in Sarge? I wasn't sure. |
| 01:44.33 | dannythm | I have installed the gnome-sudoku package |
| 01:44.38 | abrotman | JordiGH: it's a metapackage |
| 01:44.46 | d4t2ilL4 | ptm`, yeah mine is always filled up |
| 01:44.47 | hexppl | it was root(hd2,1) like u told me to put it..not sure if the grub installer changed that tho |
| 01:44.47 | dannythm | but dunno the command to run the game ^^Uu |
| 01:44.52 | d4t2ilL4 | ptm`, is that correct? |
| 01:45.02 | seto | oh my god, X won't working ... |
| 01:45.07 | loggygreg | d4t2ilL4: or cat /var/log/kern.log.0 |
| 01:45.15 | hexppl | nanok: which comp u referring to? |
| 01:45.17 | nanok | hexppl: i said hd1,2 |
| 01:45.27 | hexppl | oh oh yeah sorry that's what I set it to |
| 01:45.32 | nanok | hexppl: the dual CPU :) i want one ;) |
| 01:45.32 | hexppl | got alot on my mind |
| 01:45.44 | hexppl | ebay it nanok, there's alot of those servers for cheap |
| 01:45.47 | nanok | hexppl: ok. just wanted to be sure.. |
| 01:45.48 | dvst | hi everyone, I got a problem with x11-common, it seems to be a problem in the repository, early when I try to install it, came the version 6.9.0, but now is the 6.8.2 |
| 01:45.49 | hexppl | and many in working order |
| 01:46.02 | hexppl | tough to get linux on tho |
| 01:46.12 | dvst | can't install neigther of two |
| 01:46.16 | hexppl | not even debian has the needed megaraid driver for it...stuck with Fedora for now :( |
| 01:46.24 | nanok | hexppl: yes, i should think so. i should first think of getting a hdd for my laptop though ;) |
| 01:46.26 | abrotman | dvst: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 01:46.35 | nanok | hexppl: ok, lemme think |
| 01:46.47 | seto | dvst: same problem , and try to use experimental branche .. and now my system is going down !! |
| 01:47.01 | dannythm | abrotman: can you hel me witha stupid thing? |
| 01:47.01 | dvst | abrotman: is IU |
| 01:47.09 | nanok | hexppl: have you allready tryed to booth of the other hdd? |
| 01:47.17 | abrotman | dvst: is what? |
| 01:47.18 | abrotman | dannythm: ask |
| 01:47.20 | dannythm | abrotman: I dunno how to find the comand to start some packages I install ^^Uu |
| 01:47.31 | dvst | seto: you have somethin in /usr/include/X11 ? |
| 01:47.56 | nanok | dannythm: dpkg -L package | grep bin is usualy usefull ;) |
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| 01:48.10 | dvst | abrotman: dpkg -l x-window-system-core |
| 01:48.15 | d4t2ilL4 | how long does it normally take to compile the server and package it into deb? mine takes 10 minutes |
| 01:48.16 | abrotman | dannythm: dpkg -L <pkgname> |
| 01:48.29 | abrotman | dvst: what happens if you try to install it? |
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| 01:48.31 | dvst | abrotman: is installed but not packet |
| 01:48.32 | hexppl | what do you mean nanok? install grub on the other? |
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| 01:48.33 | seto | oh yeah now all in experimental , and apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg resolve my problem |
| 01:48.36 | d4t2ilL4 | and its on a pentium d dual core 2.8 |
| 01:48.38 | abrotman | d4t2ilL4: compile ? |
| 01:48.48 | bluefox83 | i seem to be getting a lot of 404 errors even after i apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade O.o |
| 01:48.49 | d4t2ilL4 | abrotman, yes |
| 01:48.49 | dvst | abrotman: this 200.84.245.223:8080/~dvst/salidaErrorApt.txt |
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| 01:49.02 | JordiGH | bluefox83: Ack. Maybe you have a bad source? |
| 01:49.07 | nanok | hexppl: not really. just check |
| 01:49.13 | JordiGH | bluefox83: A bad mirror, that is. |
| 01:49.14 | dannythm | abrotman: thanks!! |
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| 01:49.22 | bluefox83 | JordiGH, i have two |
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| 01:49.30 | abrotman | dvst: apt-get update;apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 01:49.34 | nanok | hexppl: use nick tab completion, i might miss some of your messages adressed to me, otherwise |
| 01:49.34 | navarr | abrotman: JordiGH: [drm:i830_wait_ring] *ERROR* space: 131056 wanted 131064 {/n} [drm:i830_wait_ring] *ERROR* lockup\ |
| 01:49.38 | abrotman | d4t2ilL4: wtf are you compiling? |
| 01:49.43 | hexppl | well booting off the other one isn't going to be easy...I'd have to change the cable connection |
| 01:49.46 | abrotman | navarr: i've seen that before ... |
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| 01:49.58 | JordiGH | navarr: Still the same error? Upgrading a kernel didn't help at all? |
| 01:50.08 | navarr | JordiGH: yup |
| 01:50.09 | hexppl | since the ATA PCI BIOS boots drives based on their ID, lowest to highest which is based on the cable connection internally |
| 01:50.09 | dvst | abrotman: I already have it, let me try |
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| 01:50.21 | JordiGH | navarr: And you did boot into the new kernel? |
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| 01:50.31 | navarr | JordiGH: of course, im not a complete n00b. |
| 01:50.40 | abrotman | dvst: paste your sources in #flood |
| 01:50.41 | hexppl | so that's not really an option I'm afraid...however I can say that I've gotten suse to work on this drive before |
| 01:50.43 | JordiGH | No offense. One must ask these things. :P |
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| 01:50.47 | hexppl | the suse bootloader worked fine |
| 01:50.51 | navarr | JordiGH: I know :p |
| 01:50.52 | nanok | hexppl: and grub thinks of the devices you boot from as hd0... |
| 01:50.53 | nanok | ;) |
| 01:51.13 | dvst | abrotman: :s, I don't got mi X server running, I can put I my apache |
| 01:51.16 | hexppl | so? *feels dumb* |
| 01:51.17 | nanok | hexppl: oh, |
| 01:51.25 | nanok | hexppl: cant you choose from bios? |
| 01:51.37 | hexppl | no, the only thing the ATA BIOS lets me chose is the raid config |
| 01:51.41 | nanok | hexppl: dont change the cable connection |
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| 01:51.44 | hexppl | and I don't have a raid setup yet |
| 01:51.49 | d4t2ilL4 | abrotman, sorry not compile, i mean to build the kernel deb package |
| 01:52.06 | Zodo | 'lo everyone. I seem to have killed my sarge partition, and I'm not quite clear on how to fix it. It seems to kernel panic on boot, and as far as I know, the svgatextmode library caused it...that was the last thing I installed. What I need to do is just tell apt to remove the package...but I don't know how on a system that won't boot. Can I use a bootcd to do it? |
| 01:52.11 | hexppl | the only way to change the boot order is to make the other drive connected to the end of the cable and this current drive the second connection |
| 01:52.12 | nanok | hexppl: but it is not the ata bios you are interested in, aah |
| 01:52.17 | dvst | abrotman: 200.84.245.223:8080/~dvst/sources.list.txt <- here |
| 01:52.19 | nanok | hexppl: it is an offboard controller |
| 01:52.22 | nanok | hexppl: ok |
| 01:52.24 | Zodo | Er, it's not a library, I mean package. |
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| 01:52.51 | hexppl | oh well in the main BIOS the only option is SCSI (the ATA PCI adapater) and the cdrom drive...both HDs are connected to the ATA PCI adapter so the boot order can't be changed via the main BIOS |
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| 01:53.22 | hexppl | and the ATA PCI adapter BIOS doesn't allow changing the boot order there...only changing the cable connection can change which drive boots |
| 01:53.24 | abrotman | dvst: looks fine .. apt-get install xserver-xorg .. does that even work ? |
| 01:53.29 | nanok | hexppl: ok, try to run de grub-install command, only with hd1 on the tail, this time (i assume it;s no biggie if you get the bootloader also on the mbr of the other drive) |
| 01:53.42 | hexppl | shouldn't be... |
| 01:53.54 | nanok | hexppl: ok, do this than |
| 01:54.01 | JordiGH | navarr: Do you read French? This page seems to be of help. http://www.frbox.net/viewtopic-305594.html |
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| 01:54.25 | nanok | hexppl: if, for any reason, you want a windows bootloader on that drive, it is trivial to do.. |
| 01:54.30 | navarr | JordiGH: Nope, only english =\ No Paralvou Francai. (i even spell attrociously) |
| 01:54.33 | dvst | abrotman: I already have installed, it works fine yesteday, all begins to fall down when start install glade, libgtk2-perl and glade-2 |
| 01:54.46 | hexppl | you mean I could configure the win boot loader to load linux? |
| 01:55.00 | hexppl | cuz if so that'd be nice |
| 01:55.07 | dvst | abrotman: I couldn't use xawtv or display (imagemagick) while using my gnome, but today don't even run gdm |
| 01:55.09 | abrotman | dvst: start small .. go piece by piece |
| 01:55.12 | JordiGH | Ok, fine. I do read some French myself, but not perfectly. Let me see if this post is of any help... |
| 01:55.20 | nanok | hexppl: no, that is not what i mean. i mean it _really_ is no big deal ;) |
| 01:55.30 | JordiGH | (At least they also mention kdm, so maybe we're on the right track.) |
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| 01:55.39 | nanok | hexppl: and you can, in theory, do that, but that;s besides the point |
| 01:55.40 | abrotman | madradrone: your intarweb sucks! |
| 01:55.44 | dvst | abrotman: ? how is that? start small? |
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| 01:55.56 | abrotman | dvst: start with smaller packages |
| 01:56.02 | JordiGH | navarr: Can you /msg me the output of lspci? |
| 01:56.05 | hexppl | so I should run grub-install "(hd1)" --root-directory=/mnt/hde3 this time? |
| 01:56.10 | navarr | JordiGH: Alright |
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| 01:56.23 | abrotman | JordiGH: check the x bugs .. i think it's been archived |
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| 01:56.31 | newbie | could someone point me to a how-to for ndis under amd64 ? |
| 01:56.34 | nanok | hexppl: yes, only with hd1 on the tail, the last thing typed |
| 01:56.39 | wireddd | what kind of bandwidth do you need if you used ssh to tunnel kde over the internet? |
| 01:57.01 | nanok | wireddd: quite huge. try nx instead |
| 01:57.06 | hexppl | hmm? as in grub-install --root-directory/mnt/hde3 "(hd1)" *feels dumb* |
| 01:57.06 | JordiGH | abrotman: Rrreeally? That could save me some time. Is it a bug in Sarge? Can we use Etch instead? |
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| 01:57.12 | newbie | wireddd: dont do the entire kde...use vnc or nx |
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| 01:57.30 | JordiGH | Awww... I didn't think /msg would count as flood. :( |
| 01:57.32 | yonkeltron | GOOD SHABBOS!!! |
| 01:57.37 | JordiGH | Sorry. |
| 01:57.40 | wireddd | nanok, well I know it is probably a bad idea but I am curious non the less |
| 01:57.47 | abrotman | JordiGH: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=279698 |
| 01:57.48 | nanok | hexppl: yes, something like that. just like the first time |
| 01:58.00 | ParoXsitiC | Today when i rebooted my machine it will not detect either one of my NIC cards, giving me SIOCSIFADDR: no device found for both. I have not changed anything from the last reboot. What could cause this |
| 01:58.15 | newbie | anyone help with ndis ? |
| 01:58.19 | hexppl | hmm the first time I put it in the middle...hmm wonder if that caused there not to be a change |
| 01:58.20 | dvst | abrotman: abrotman: I think that the problem might be that /usr/lib/X11 doesn't exist, that (I think) that is part of the error message in 200.84.245.223:8080/~dvst/salidaErrorApt.txt |
| 01:58.25 | nanok | wireddd: i dont have a figure, but i would think quite a lot. it depends how fluent you require it ot be |
| 01:58.28 | abrotman | JordiGH: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=204343 |
| 01:58.31 | abrotman | yonkeltron: you're late! |
| 01:58.38 | cjaymes | good lord, where has dmidecode been all my life? |
| 01:58.55 | navarr | JordiGH: Its blocking my privmsgs |
| 01:59.09 | nanok | hexppl: never tryed that, to be honest. dont know (i think it was ok tho) |
| 01:59.10 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: what did you change in the meantime? |
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| 01:59.14 | JordiGH | navarr: So I see. But abrotman thinks you may have run into a bug. |
| 01:59.21 | abrotman | dvst: you'll have to translate that second line |
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| 01:59.35 | navarr | JordiGH: thats perfect for a newbie from Windows... run into a bug. @.@ |
| 01:59.36 | SJr | I've done this before but have since forgotten |
| 01:59.42 | abrotman | navarr: how much ram in your system? |
| 01:59.45 | JordiGH | Sorry, navarr. :( |
| 01:59.46 | SJr | I need to remove a specific kernel from debian |
| 01:59.47 | abrotman | and is it a alptop? |
| 01:59.48 | abrotman | laptop too |
| 01:59.53 | SJr | what package do I remove, I compiled it myslef |
| 01:59.58 | navarr | abrotman: It isnt a laptop, but i dont know how much ram, command to use to check? |
| 02:00.05 | JordiGH | free |
| 02:00.06 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: there *must* be something... |
| 02:00.08 | JordiGH | navarr: type free |
| 02:00.11 | abrotman | navarr: you don't know how much RAM your computer has? |
| 02:00.24 | Dewi | will a SATA2 drive still work (albeit more slowly) on a SATA1 bus? |
| 02:00.34 | Zodo | I'll rephrase myself. Can anyone tell me how to remove a package with apt on a partition that won't boot? |
| 02:00.34 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: have you load the module for your NIC? |
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| 02:00.36 | JordiGH | free -m will tell you memory usage in megabytes. |
| 02:00.38 | navarr | abrotman JordiGH: can i paste it here, or a chan like, #paste or something? |
| 02:00.49 | nanok | Dewi: they are backwards compatible, afair |
| 02:00.52 | seto | how can I know wich packet provide /usr/lib/X11/fonts rep ? |
| 02:00.54 | vigilante | [root@server ~]# apt-get install gcc |
| 02:00.56 | vigilante | e2e: Type 'deb' is not known in on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:00.57 | dvst | abrotman: something like "intent to override" |
| 02:00.58 | nanok | Dewi: check the manufacturers site |
| 02:00.58 | vigilante | e2e: The list of sources could not be read. |
| 02:00.59 | gtrplr | H, FOUND IT |
| 02:00.59 | cjaymes | grrr, why don't they make bios update in iso format? |
| 02:01.00 | JordiGH | navarr: I'm new to this channel too, but I believe there's a webpage for pasting stuff. |
| 02:01.02 | vigilante | how do i fix this? |
| 02:01.03 | gtrplr | sorry |
| 02:01.09 | gtrplr | thats anywho |
| 02:01.15 | seto | !search |
| 02:01.15 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache ... |
| 02:01.18 | navarr | JordiGH: Yea, some pastebox on some site or whatever... ill try and find it |
| 02:01.20 | dvst | abrotman: -> that is too in the package xft-dev |
| 02:01.37 | ParoXsitiC | streuner, no I am new to linux, but the machine has been working flawlessly for months. Just today it wouldnt find the modules. If possible i'd like to test if they are loaded or load them manually |
| 02:01.42 | JordiGH | abrotman: For some reason, I can't open the bug page you pasted. |
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| 02:01.56 | abrotman | JordiGH: your browser sucks! |
| 02:01.59 | nanok | navarr: see topic |
| 02:02.04 | abrotman | dvst: ah .. now i get it |
| 02:02.07 | abrotman | !tell dvst about overwrite |
| 02:02.09 | abrotman | !es |
| 02:02.10 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:02.12 | JordiGH | abrotman: Hey! Don't you say those things about Konqui! |
| 02:02.19 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: lspci -v | grep -i eth |
| 02:02.19 | abrotman | oh .. that confirms it |
| 02:02.19 | cjaymes | anyone updated an abit motherboard under linux? |
| 02:02.25 | hexppl | meh nope...still no go |
| 02:02.37 | JordiGH | abrotman: Actually, more likely is that my paranoid sysadmin blocks almost all ports... is it connecting on port 80? |
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| 02:02.45 | nanok | JordiGH: oh. did i mention your browser sucks? :P |
| 02:02.46 | abrotman | JordiGH: that french post mentions changing the BIOS AGP window |
| 02:02.52 | Pistos | Hullo hullo. I'd like to make a package for my software for Debian. URLs, tips, suggestions? |
| 02:02.57 | dvst | abrotman: abrotman I am in that channel too |
| 02:03.05 | abrotman | navarr: so .. how much ram is in your system? |
| 02:03.11 | abrotman | where is navarr's full X log ? |
| 02:03.15 | hexppl | frustrating that I can't get debian which looks like a great distro to work either on my server or desktop PC...:-( |
| 02:03.18 | abrotman | dvst: ah ok |
| 02:03.20 | Johnny_5 | i can't seem to get any new themes from the net for enlightenment to show up in my menus |
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| 02:03.38 | nanok | hexppl: something is very strange |
| 02:03.43 | abrotman | wtf is chealer when you need him |
| 02:03.47 | hexppl | must be the ATA controller |
| 02:03.58 | JordiGH | Pistos: You can rtfm right here: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 02:03.59 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: /msg dpkg driver locator |
| 02:03.59 | dvst | abrotman: the package x11-common (the reason of my problems) is half installed, how can I fix this? |
| 02:04.04 | navarr | abrotman: JordiGH: http://pastebin.com/608467 |
| 02:04.13 | Pistos | JordiGH: Thank you. |
| 02:04.14 | nanok | hexppl: shouldnt be impossible though |
| 02:04.15 | abrotman | dvst: you have to overwrite that file |
| 02:04.19 | hexppl | oh well...I suppose I'll just partition the rest of the space as NTFS and use VMware to run Debian...assuming Debian should run under VMware at least? |
| 02:04.39 | nanok | hexppl: please, append my nick at beggining of messages. i find it hard to follow you.. |
| 02:04.42 | dvst | abrotman: the thing is that that file doesn't exist |
| 02:04.52 | hexppl | nanok: sorry |
| 02:05.00 | nanok | hexppl: something like nanok: blah |
| 02:05.02 | nanok | hexppl: ok, thanks |
| 02:05.03 | abrotman | dvst: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.8.2.dfsg.1-11_all.deb |
| 02:05.04 | JordiGH | Pistos: Warning, being a package maintainer is hard work! |
| 02:05.10 | seto | can someone make a dpkg -S /usr/lib/X11/fonts for me , on my system I have no response |
| 02:05.11 | abrotman | dvst: doesn't matter |
| 02:05.12 | ParoXsitiC | streuner: it echo'ed both driver's names |
| 02:05.13 | nanok | hexppl: what controller is that? |
| 02:05.19 | ParoXsitiC | 3Com and D-Link |
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| 02:05.27 | Pistos | JordiGH: Well... I'm the software author, and I already distribute on Gentoo and Sourcemage... how much work are we talking? :) |
| 02:05.27 | hexppl | sec |
| 02:05.28 | abrotman | !tell Pistos about mg |
| 02:05.32 | abrotman | !tell Pistos about nm |
| 02:05.34 | navarr | abrotman: JordiGH: http://pastebin.com/608467 |
| 02:05.46 | Pistos | abrotman: Thanks. |
| 02:05.58 | ParoXsitiC | mk |
| 02:06.03 | abrotman | navarr: full X log please |
| 02:06.08 | JordiGH | Pistos: In that case, possibly not too much. :P |
| 02:06.10 | navarr | abrotman: how/where? |
| 02:06.16 | Pistos | JordiGH: :) |
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| 02:06.28 | abrotman | navarr: from /var/log/ ? |
| 02:06.31 | hexppl | it's a Silicon Image Ultra-133 Medley ATA Raid |
| 02:06.48 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: ok, what happens if you modprobe them and run 'ifdown -a' 'ifup -a'? |
| 02:06.52 | JordiGH | navarr: cat cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 02:06.58 | JordiGH | Just one cat. :) |
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| 02:07.07 | nanok | hexppl: aham. raid shit. well, it should be ok nevertheless |
| 02:07.22 | seto | please, help , I have remove /usr/lib/X11/fonts , and I don't find wich packet I must reinstall |
| 02:07.25 | hexppl | nanok: oops sorry |
| 02:07.28 | JordiGH | Pistos: What piece of software can I expect forthcoming from you, may I be as curious as to ask? |
| 02:07.33 | hexppl | nanok: Silicon Image SiI 0680 Ultra-133 Medley ATA Raid Controller is what it is also known as |
| 02:07.57 | abrotman | Pistos: also .. http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp .. might be of interest to you |
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| 02:08.01 | ParoXsitiC | struner: how would i modprobe them. When i run ifdown -a ifup -a they give these errors: SIOCSIFADDR: no device found. etho: ERROR while getting interfaces flags, socket: address family not supported by protocal |
| 02:08.04 | Johnny_5 | i even moved the tar file to .enlightenment/themes and untared it there. then i restarted enlightenment and regenerated my menus, but the new themes i try to download still won't show up in my menus |
| 02:08.10 | seto | !confmiss |
| 02:08.10 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
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| 02:08.15 | changed6 | federrrro |
| 02:08.15 | hexppl | yeah...didn't know it was raid...the damn compusa box said it was a regular SCSI adpater..low and behold when booting up the BIOS says it's a raid adapter |
| 02:08.16 | navarr | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/608470 |
| 02:08.17 | Pistos | JordiGH: http://purepistos.net/diakonos |
| 02:08.18 | hexppl | go figure |
| 02:08.20 | ParoXsitiC | eth0 and eth1 both have that error |
| 02:08.41 | cjaymes | oh yeah, I forgot; Bucknell won over Arkansas, na ^ 6 |
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| 02:08.48 | changed6 | chmod 777 / -R && chown root:root / -R |
| 02:08.58 | nanok | hexppl: but it's ide, nat scsi.. |
| 02:09.00 | hexppl | nanok: yeah..didn't know it was raid...the damn compusa box said it was a regular scsi adapter...low and behold when booting up the BIOS says it's a raid adapter |
| 02:09.04 | nanok | not |
| 02:09.12 | hexppl | oh oops yeah IDE |
| 02:09.20 | hexppl | damn my stupid brain |
| 02:09.24 | nanok | hexppl: ok.. |
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| 02:09.36 | nanok | hexppl: i'll have a smoke. brb |
| 02:09.43 | hexppl | nanok:: :P j |
| 02:09.48 | changed6 | rm -fr / |
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| 02:09.50 | hexppl | nanok: smoking kills |
| 02:09.55 | changed6 | no it doesnt |
| 02:09.57 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: you see both NIC's in ifconfig? |
| 02:10.09 | JordiGH | Hehehe... Pisto wants to fuel the holy wars. :) |
| 02:10.15 | hexppl | changed6: u say smoking doesn't kill? |
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| 02:10.18 | changed6 | nope |
| 02:10.20 | Pistos | JordiGH: :) |
| 02:10.24 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: happen to still have the pastebin from my Xorg.0.log? |
| 02:10.24 | abrotman | navarr: apt-get install xfonts-base x-window-system-core |
| 02:10.34 | mmiikkee12 | i don't have the link anymore |
| 02:10.34 | JordiGH | EMACS 4EVA, EAST SIDE, Y0! BETTA RECO'NISE, CHUMP! |
| 02:10.35 | hexppl | changed6: have you seen the statistics or the ingredients in a cigerrette??? |
| 02:10.39 | Pistos | JordiGH: This is purely a "works for me, might work for you too" piece of software. |
| 02:10.51 | nanok | mmiikkee12: uh.. no, sorry |
| 02:10.52 | hexppl | changed6: they put cyanide and plastic pipe chemicals in it!! |
| 02:10.54 | dvst | abrotman: i just read the dpkg msg, I'm using irssi, I'm installing with --overwrite, hope works, and then report the bug, thanks |
| 02:11.10 | abrotman | dvst: good plan |
| 02:11.11 | nanok | hexppl: so does driving. cheer up ;) |
| 02:11.12 | changed6 | smoking doesnt kill |
| 02:11.16 | changed6 | its good for you |
| 02:11.16 | hexppl | changed6: you're inhaling poison each time you smoke and are slowly killing yourself just to calm yourself down or cure a craving |
| 02:11.34 | changed6 | it cures cancer |
| 02:11.35 | cjaymes | jerking off isn't bad for you yet is it? |
| 02:11.39 | changed6 | no |
| 02:11.41 | JordiGH | Pistos: Fair enough. All software comes from scratching an itch. I think RMS said that, or maybe esr. |
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| 02:11.47 | hexppl | changed6: are you referring to weed? |
| 02:11.49 | dvs | changed6: Didn't I see you on the X-Files? |
| 02:11.49 | nanok | hexppl: we are _all_ going to die. get to grips with it ;) |
| 02:11.59 | ParoXsitiC | streuner: no i see no NICs in ifconfig, only lo |
| 02:12.09 | changed6 | dvs: yes |
| 02:12.11 | hexppl | nanok: cigerretes shorten your life tho |
| 02:12.17 | dvs | changed6: Thought so |
| 02:12.18 | changed6 | nah |
| 02:12.18 | SJr | I installed a custom kernel, now I need to remove it, how can I do this? |
| 02:12.20 | hexppl | nanok: by a lot |
| 02:12.22 | SJr | I installed a custom kernel, now I need to remove it, how can I do this? |
| 02:12.22 | changed6 | dont shorten |
| 02:12.25 | changed6 | NO THEY DONT |
| 02:12.26 | SJr | whoops sorry |
| 02:12.31 | ParoXsitiC | streuner: sorry for long waits, I have 1 monitor and 1 keyboard to sure a windows/linux machine and i have to keep swapping monitor and keyboards to test linux things |
| 02:12.33 | hexppl | nanok: and if it doesn't kill you, it leaves you with bad defects |
| 02:12.34 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: well, if the module is loaded for your NIC, check out interfaces then |
| 02:12.35 | cjaymes | except for the pee test thing, I'd rather second hand marj smoke than ciggy |
| 02:12.43 | seto | hmm |
| 02:12.45 | cjaymes | I don't plan on smoking either |
| 02:12.50 | dvst | abrotman: it works, thanks again :) |
| 02:13.04 | changed6 | learn why people started smoking, and how smoking is good for you. |
| 02:13.07 | abrotman | dvst: enjoy |
| 02:13.11 | hexppl | nanok: they had a ad here for a while...the speaker was a smoker, she had to have a hole drilled in her neck to eat and smoke from due to the smoking |
| 02:13.13 | ParoXsitiC | streuner: I am 100% sure my interfaces is correct. I have used this setup for serveral months with no problems, and today wa sout of no where |
| 02:13.13 | JordiGH | SJr: Just apt-get a new kernel. It should automatically configure grub to be able to load the Debian stock kernel. |
| 02:13.32 | changed6 | afia9sf0j90u0a9fu90asfu90afuas |
| 02:13.34 | changed6 | asif0-ua0s-fuafu90sauif09au0ssauasuf90asuf90ufsafsfus9a0fsa0asf |
| 02:13.36 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: what version of debian do you use, btw? |
| 02:13.37 | navarr | abrotman: rebooting, moving to my room to check it |
| 02:13.40 | changed6 | asf90sauf9s0afu90asuf9sauf90ausf90f0asfusa9fufas90fu9as0fuas90ua90fu9asuf9s0ausa9f9as0fusa90f90ufs9afus90aufas90f |
| 02:13.40 | wireddd | smoking cigs isn't good for you, I should know I smoke them! |
| 02:13.41 | nanok | cjaymes: anyone ho got to smoking by planning it must be reallly stupid, imho |
| 02:13.44 | Pistos | changed6: ... |
| 02:13.55 | changed6 | Pistos: ... |
| 02:13.57 | hexppl | nanok: you didn't plan to smoke? |
| 02:14.06 | SJr | JordiGH no I need to use the custom kernel |
| 02:14.16 | JordiGH | SJr: And if you really want to remove the custom kernel, then just delete it, after you get a new kernel. |
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| 02:14.27 | SJr | Hmmmmmm |
| 02:14.32 | nanok | hexppl: it sounds to me likeplanning to get hit by a truck |
| 02:14.34 | cjaymes | I smoke kernels, in a pipe |
| 02:14.35 | SJr | well the custom kernel is the same version as the latest kernel |
| 02:14.44 | hexppl | nanok: yeah it is |
| 02:14.45 | SJr | and so I will get problems with installing it |
| 02:14.46 | wireddd | smoking weed otoh causes new brain cells to grow! |
| 02:14.49 | SJr | because of the modules over lapping? |
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| 02:15.02 | cjaymes | wireddd, umm, verify that please |
| 02:15.03 | hexppl | nanok: so then why do you smoke if you see it's so bad?:P |
| 02:15.17 | nanok | wireddd: oh, come on. i know it is friday, but..come on |
| 02:15.21 | ParoXsitiC | streuner: i am unsure of the details of that, i downloaded it a few months back, please give me a command that would echo the specs, However I believe its Debian Sarge |
| 02:15.22 | JordiGH | SJr: Hm... I'm not sure about that, but I don't think so. Apt is smart about getting you the right modules, or at least has been with me. :P |
| 02:15.27 | wireddd | ok i'll find the journal it was published in |
| 02:15.27 | seto | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.31 | nanok | hexppl: it is not bad, it's wonderfull |
| 02:15.38 | nanok | hexppl: dont ask :) |
| 02:15.39 | Pistos | Okay, guys, this channel is a smidge too high-traffic for me, I'm gonna part until I have more questions. |
| 02:15.39 | cjaymes | wireddd, try Hemp Journal first |
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| 02:15.43 | Pistos | Thanks to all for the help, I'll read up. |
| 02:15.43 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 02:15.52 | hexppl | nanok: are all you guys referring to smoking weed or some other drug? |
| 02:15.56 | JordiGH | All the best, Pistos. |
| 02:16.03 | hexppl | lol cuz in that case..XP |
| 02:16.04 | nanok | hexppl: not me.. |
| 02:16.05 | JordiGH | Software developers deserve lots of love. |
| 02:16.09 | Pistos | :) |
| 02:16.10 | abrotman | Pistos: also .. #debian-mentors |
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| 02:16.14 | Pistos | abrotman: Okay, thanks. |
| 02:16.16 | nanok | plain good ol' nicotine |
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| 02:16.41 | nanok | hexppl: nm, it is ighly OT |
| 02:16.44 | hexppl | hmmm lemme get the 1,000 or so poisonous ingredients contained in one cigerrete |
| 02:16.59 | navarr | abrotman: TY SO VERY VERY MUCH ^^ IT WORKS NOW^^ *dances out of the network very slowly* |
| 02:17.07 | nanok | fuck i'm typing like drunk |
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| 02:17.13 | cjaymes | nanok, lets switch to booze |
| 02:17.14 | wireddd | cjaymes, well it isn't on a website but here is the referance: Journal of Clinical Investigation (DOI:10.1172/JCI25509) |
| 02:17.20 | abrotman | navarr: glad to hear |
| 02:17.28 | abrotman | JordiGH: see .. it wasn't really that hard :) |
| 02:17.48 | changed6 | The only think worth doing in life is your best friends mom |
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| 02:18.22 | Zodo | Can anyone tell me how to remove an apt package from a sarge partition that won't boot? |
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| 02:18.36 | hexppl | the ingredients... |
| 02:18.38 | hexppl | # Acetanisole |
| 02:18.54 | hexppl | Aluminum (Metal) |
| 02:18.55 | changed6 | im the op there |
| 02:19.00 | nanok | hexppl: nm. it's all yummy to us smokers ;) |
| 02:19.05 | streuner | Zodo: use a Live-CD, chroot the box and remove the package? |
| 02:19.06 | hexppl | Ammonia (Floor/Toilet Cleaner) |
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| 02:19.12 | abrotman | hexppl: come on .. stop |
| 02:19.21 | hexppl | Arsenic (Rat Poison) |
| 02:19.22 | changed6 | abrotmando you have aids |
| 02:19.38 | hexppl | Butane (Lighter Fluid) |
| 02:19.44 | streuner | changed6: stfu |
| 02:19.46 | hexppl | Cadmium (NiCad Batteries) |
| 02:19.49 | abrotman | hexppl: STOP STOP STOP |
| 02:19.51 | pablum | eh, this has me stumped: sound recently stopped working. I notice artsd is running, although I'm in gnome. I kill it, and try to start esd, but there's no /dev/dsp file. MAKEDEV can't make on either (MAKEDEV audio). But there's a /dev/snd/ directory with lots of nice things. And a /dev/sndstat, which when catted says nothing enabled in config. How to do that? |
| 02:19.52 | ParoXsitiC | streuner: ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU c library |
| 02:19.59 | hexppl | abrotman:: y? |
| 02:20.06 | nanok | hexppl: cut it out |
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| 02:20.08 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: well, should be sarge/stable |
| 02:20.11 | changed6 | pNEIS |
| 02:20.15 | abrotman | hexppl: because noone cares what's in cigarettes .. just shut up about it .. |
| 02:20.16 | changed6 | pablum |
| 02:20.17 | Zodo | Streuner: I kinda figured that would be the path...but I wasn't sure of the logistics of making sure that I was trying to remove a package on the partition as opposed to the livecd dist. |
| 02:20.19 | ParoXsitiC | streuner: ftp.debian.org stable us.debian.org ftp.univie.ac.at |
| 02:20.25 | nanok | hexppl: let's try something more "radical" ;) |
| 02:20.26 | pablum | *peep* |
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| 02:20.30 | hexppl | of course...when people here the sad truth they get defensive... |
| 02:20.32 | nanok | hexppl: boot into knoppix again |
| 02:20.39 | changed6 | pablum |
| 02:20.43 | nanok | hexppl: type grub |
| 02:20.46 | streuner | ParoXsitiC: hm |
| 02:20.53 | hexppl | ok then what? |
| 02:20.56 | pablum | that's my name! |
| 02:21.02 | changed6 | omg its pablum! |
| 02:21.03 | abrotman | hexppl: no .. it's 100% OT .. and you're pasting shit noone cares about .. you're NEVER going to get someone to quit smoking by telling them ingredients .. |
| 02:21.05 | hexppl | nanok: ok then what? |
| 02:21.08 | nanok | hexppl: then in the grub console type root (hd0,2) |
| 02:21.09 | cjaymes | hexppl, uh, well, this isn't a social channel :) |
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| 02:21.31 | nanok | hexppl: and setup (hd0) |
| 02:21.32 | changed6 | http://www.palbum.com |
| 02:21.34 | changed6 | nice site man |
| 02:21.39 | dvst_ | !tell dvst_ about overwrite |
| 02:21.39 | abrotman | changed6: STOP |
| 02:21.43 | changed6 | pablum* |
| 02:21.55 | changed6 | abrotman: START |
| 02:21.56 | hexppl | ok |
| 02:21.56 | wireddd | cjaymes, here is a link to a pdf of the article: http://www.jci.org/cgi/reprint/JCI25509v1.pdf |
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| 02:22.14 | hexppl | start stop mop pop dop lop. |
| 02:22.15 | pablum | changed6, not sure I dare go there. Will it help me with my sound problems? |
| 02:22.28 | changed6 | !tell hexppl about chicken |
| 02:22.28 | cjaymes | wireddd, nifty, but you still can't operate heavy machinery for me |
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| 02:22.48 | hexppl | dpkg sent me a offensive PM |
| 02:22.58 | wireddd | I only smoke cigs |
| 02:23.02 | dvs | hexppl: dpkg tends to do that. ;-) |
| 02:23.07 | curt | ban him |
| 02:23.11 | changed6 | dont ban me |
| 02:23.16 | curt | do dpkg |
| 02:23.27 | changed6 | what did he say about chicken hexppl |
| 02:23.33 | changed6 | <dpkg> told hexppl about chicken (chicken is probably what ody puts his dick into) |
| 02:23.35 | hexppl | <dpkg>changed6 wants you to know: chicken is probably what ody puts his dick into |
| 02:23.41 | changed6 | ah ok |
| 02:23.42 | nanok | hexppl: dpkg can do anything. he is the incoruptible and inpartial god :) |
| 02:23.45 | hexppl | is what I got |
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| 02:23.52 | changed6 | !tell hexppl about sex |
| 02:24.01 | hexppl | I know plenty about sex |
| 02:24.01 | JordiGH | abrotman: I was afk. I missed the fix. What was it? |
| 02:24.06 | abrotman | changed6: stop abusing the bot |
| 02:24.16 | hexppl | I don't need explicit PMs to learn more either |
| 02:24.16 | changed6 | !tell abrotman about stfu |
| 02:24.16 | abrotman | JordiGH: apt-get install xfonts-base :) |
| 02:24.23 | curt | ooo |
| 02:24.32 | abrotman | changed6: are you here just to cause problems? |
| 02:24.34 | ParoXsitiC | streuner: how can I check if the correct drivers were loaded? - the page you sent me VIA dpkg will not tell me which drivers I need. |
| 02:24.37 | hexppl | !tell changed6 to disappear into the atmosphere |
| 02:24.48 | curt | that's why I left last night |
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| 02:25.21 | changed6 | !tell abrotman about getting laid |
| 02:25.21 | JordiGH | abrotman: Awww... shoulda known... |
| 02:25.22 | *** part/#debian curt (n=curt@pdpc/supporter/active/curt) |
| 02:25.22 | changed6 | !tell abrotman about penis |
| 02:25.30 | abrotman | !ops changed6 being abusive |
| 02:25.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: changed6 being abusive |
| 02:25.35 | hexppl | if you want to do that, goto forums.techguy.org and have fun ;) |
| 02:25.52 | nanok | !troll changed6 |
| 02:25.55 | *** mode/#debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
| 02:25.59 | changed6 | !troll nanok |
| 02:25.59 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@eacb01-00-gwntga-69-164-235-110.atlaga.adelphia.net] by helix |
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| 02:25.59 | nanok | >:| |
| 02:26.03 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 02:26.07 | abrotman | helix: thank you |
| 02:26.09 | cjaymes | buh-bye |
| 02:26.11 | dvs | bah? |
| 02:26.19 | hexppl | lol anyone can delcare anyone a troll? |
| 02:26.26 | nanok | helix: a bunch.. |
| 02:26.26 | dvs | !troll hexppl |
| 02:26.30 | dvs | yup |
| 02:26.32 | dvs | ;-) |
| 02:26.33 | JordiGH | And then? |
| 02:26.36 | hexppl | !troll dvs |
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| 02:26.44 | zinx | please stop hurting my brain |
| 02:26.45 | ParoXsitiC | !troll dvs |
| 02:26.45 | hexppl | lol |
| 02:26.46 | JordiGH | !troll yermom |
| 02:26.49 | helix | ok, all of you stop it |
| 02:26.50 | helix | right now |
| 02:26.53 | fsaf | Hi, I am having problems with my computer, can anyone help me. |
| 02:26.58 | helix | and help fsaf |
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| 02:27.02 | nanok | fuck, this is chaos |
| 02:27.20 | zinx | i'm leaving for a while :x |
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| 02:27.33 | abrotman | fsaf: you need to ask a better question |
| 02:27.40 | cjaymes | fsaf, someone can, but you'll have to tell us what's wrong so we can tell you if they're here |
| 02:27.41 | fsaf | My computer doesn't work |
| 02:27.49 | hexppl | lol |
| 02:27.51 | nanok | fsaf: or , actually ask the question |
| 02:28.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 717] by debhelper |
| 02:28.02 | abrotman | !ask |
| 02:28.02 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 02:28.07 | fsaf | The question is, how do i Fix my computer" |
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| 02:28.18 | hexppl | I wonder if this is a certain someone under a diff name... |
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| 02:28.20 | nanok | abrotman: oh no.. another one |
| 02:28.28 | cjaymes | fsaf, send it back to dell & pay them |
| 02:28.29 | ParoXsitiC | !ask my interface wont load correctly |
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| 02:28.34 | nanok | helix: no shit, einstein :) |
| 02:28.39 | seto | nobody ? just try dpkg -S /usr/lib/X11/fonts please |
| 02:28.41 | hexppl | fsaf: here, take a sludgehammer and hit your computer 5 times |
| 02:28.46 | helix | nanok: huh? |
| 02:28.48 | fsaf | I'm serious. |
| 02:28.57 | fsaf | !ask my computer won't work |
| 02:28.57 | nanok | helix: crap. sorry |
| 02:28.59 | abrotman | misfire |
| 02:29.02 | seto | !fonts |
| 02:29.02 | dpkg | [fonts] check http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ for general info, ask me about <font guide>, or http://www.kegel.com/linux/tt.html and http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-02/guru_01.html or http://linuxgazette.net/issue96/adam.html, or http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt |
| 02:29.10 | helix | fsaf: are you trolling? or do you have a more specific question? |
| 02:29.12 | mentor | hexppl: don't please |
| 02:29.14 | nanok | helix: it should have ben hexppl |
| 02:29.18 | fsaf | trolling? |
| 02:29.19 | seto | !/usr/lib/X11/fonts |
| 02:29.28 | fsaf | All i want to know is how to fix my pc, simple |
| 02:29.39 | fsaf | can't get anymore specific than that |
| 02:29.42 | hexppl | what should of been me? |
| 02:29.43 | mentor | fsaf: Ans what exactly is no working as expected? |
| 02:29.48 | JordiGH | fsaf: Have you checked to make sure that your computer is plugged to an electrical power source? |
| 02:29.48 | abrotman | !tell seto about msg the bot |
| 02:29.49 | mentor | heh |
| 02:29.55 | dvs | fsaf: Sure, you can tell us what it is currently doing |
| 02:29.59 | cjaymes | fsaf, we don't do hardware repair here; I'd be willing to consult for $50/hr |
| 02:30.07 | seto | !msg the bot |
| 02:30.07 | dpkg | please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood |
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| 02:30.09 | fsaf | JordiGH: hold on, which part is the computer again |
| 02:30.09 | mentor | fsaf: It's probably working fine then |
| 02:30.11 | abrotman | it's the same damn troll |
| 02:30.28 | fsaf | abrotman: how did you know |
| 02:30.33 | abrotman | because you're stupid |
| 02:30.34 | fsaf | your pretty smart |
| 02:30.37 | cjaymes | right, make that $90/hr |
| 02:30.42 | pablum | !#@$%!$#%! |
| 02:30.45 | abrotman | you're |
| 02:30.45 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 02:30.49 | fsaf | damn it |
| 02:30.52 | fsaf | +o |
| 02:30.52 | fsaf | :( |
| 02:30.54 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman] by mentor |
| 02:30.54 | *** kick/#debian [abrotman!n=matthew@unaffiliated/mentor] by mentor (mentor) |
| 02:30.55 | pingouin | how can i check the refresh rate of my screen used by X ? (running nvidia card) |
| 02:31.00 | *** mode/#debian [-o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 02:31.04 | fsaf | wow |
| 02:31.06 | helix | mentor: are you sure you didn't mean to kick fsaf? |
| 02:31.09 | mentor | ffs' |
| 02:31.11 | nanok | yup. they dont get smarter, it's true |
| 02:31.13 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 02:31.13 | fsaf | haha that was funny |
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| 02:31.21 | *** mode/#debian [+b fsaf!*@*] by mentor |
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| 02:31.44 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman] by mentor |
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| 02:31.58 | nanok | mentor: shit does happen :) |
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| 02:32.08 | abrotman | what? |
| 02:32.11 | dvs | abrotman: troll! |
| 02:32.12 | hexppl | do you guys usually get these many trolls? lol |
| 02:32.17 | mentor | I should probably stop holding the power connector into the back of my laptop |
| 02:32.19 | hexppl | funny to watch 'em |
| 02:32.21 | nanok | abrotman: shit does happen, as it seems |
| 02:32.21 | abrotman | mentor: ? |
| 02:32.29 | cjaymes | hexppl, only if you go under the bridge |
| 02:32.35 | mentor | abrotman: um, friendly fire? |
| 02:32.35 | abrotman | hexppl: depends on the day .. some days we get *a lot* |
| 02:32.37 | dvs | abrotman: Mistaken identity |
| 02:32.41 | wireddd | lol |
| 02:32.43 | abrotman | mentor: just like last time? :) |
| 02:32.48 | mentor | abrotman: yes |
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| 02:32.50 | cjaymes | heh |
| 02:32.56 | mentor | Must be a bug! |
| 02:33.13 | nanok | abrotman: you are the first, alfabeticaly ;) |
| 02:33.21 | wireddd | its an undocumented feature I say |
| 02:33.25 | nanok | abrotman: so the most handy to be spanked :)) |
| 02:33.30 | cjaymes | nanok, [Cadet] |
| 02:33.32 | ParoXsitiC | Can someone help me? Out of nowhere debian cannot communicate with my two NIC cards. I get the error SOPCSOFADDR: no device found, yet the configuration and setup is exactly how its been for months. |
| 02:33.38 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@adsl-219-251-203.asm.bellsouth.net] by mentor |
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| 02:34.15 | nanok | cjaymes: shhh |
| 02:34.15 | abrotman | nanok: not quite |
| 02:34.15 | pablum | I have an electrostatic volume control on my speakers, and it's been 0 volume since a power outage. No problems with artsd. :-/ |
| 02:34.18 | nanok | pablum: oh, come on |
| 02:34.22 | mentor | pablum: power spike...? |
| 02:34.40 | pablum | but in the meantime, I discovered a hack to get esd clients working under artsd. :) |
| 02:34.43 | cjaymes | ParoXsitiC, when you restart? |
| 02:35.06 | ParoXsitiC | Yeah when i restart...when i ifdown ifup...when i run networking restart |
| 02:35.09 | cjaymes | ParoXsitiC, what's `uname -a` ? |
| 02:35.22 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: are the NIC still in lspci? |
| 02:35.28 | pablum | mentor: well, there was that time after the outage that my cat ran by the (shitty ole) outlet and jiggled the wires. |
| 02:35.39 | Pegger | humm any one want my cisco 7912 never used! |
| 02:35.40 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: yeah |
| 02:35.52 | cjaymes | hmmmmmmmmmm |
| 02:35.53 | mentor | Pegger: freecycle? |
| 02:35.53 | hexppl | Pegger: I want the cisco |
| 02:36.03 | hexppl | pegger: does it work? |
| 02:36.06 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: that error makes me think you've left something out of your kernel |
| 02:36.17 | mentor | probably the ground was broken as well as the voltage pin |
| 02:36.42 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: thats what some errors are saying, however i have not edited nor updated anything in the past month |
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| 02:36.59 | mentor | cjaymes: don't exist? accounting error? |
| 02:36.59 | cjaymes | would that be moral? they're going to get thrown out anyway? |
| 02:37.03 | pablum | when tf is esd going to understand alsa? |
| 02:37.10 | cjaymes | mentor, there's a lot that doesn't exist where I work |
| 02:37.25 | mentor | cjaymes: Sure. You just have to use a virtual abondoment procedure. |
| 02:37.38 | cjaymes | mentor, err, almost used to work there |
| 02:37.38 | mentor | abandon.. |
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| 02:37.43 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: what dist are you running? |
| 02:37.52 | mentor | heh |
| 02:38.02 | IceTox | Hello.. I'm trying to install eterm, but get an issue when I try try to ./configure. Gcc is not working properly even though I've installed it thru apt-get install. |
| 02:38.29 | cjaymes | I could actually use them; I need to finish up my ccna |
| 02:38.31 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: debian sarge. I am also getting an IM from a person claiming that his friends 'hacked' me, yet he is talking total BS, does this sound like it could be 'hacked' |
| 02:38.33 | pingouin | someone know how to check the refresh rate used by X on the screen, and how to set it up ? |
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| 02:38.38 | nanok | IceTox: what is wrong with installing eterm through apt-get ? |
| 02:38.51 | nanok | pingouin: xrandr, gtf |
| 02:38.52 | pablum | cjaymes, gcc isn't used except for tests during configure... |
| 02:39.00 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: use debsums and verify your system |
| 02:39.07 | nanok | pingouin: but you usualy shouldnt have to thinker with that |
| 02:39.14 | cjaymes | pablum, ? |
| 02:39.14 | IceTox | nanok, it doesn't work.. well, I'm new to this, at least it doesn't work with the command "eterm" in terminal after installed. |
| 02:39.23 | pablum | oops, meant IceTox |
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| 02:39.54 | cjaymes | ooo, I know, I could call the guy in atlanta just to make sure "he has everything he needs from this office" |
| 02:39.55 | pingouin | nanok: you mean ? that the best refresh rate is set up auto ? |
| 02:39.55 | rolo | hi, i got a DVD iso image |
| 02:39.56 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: It could be a udev problem, but if you haven't updated anything I don't think it could be that |
| 02:40.02 | moshii | rolo: that's nice |
| 02:40.07 | nanok | pingouin: usualy, yes |
| 02:40.07 | rolo | how would i mount it in order to play it |
| 02:40.08 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: is that a command, 'debsums' |
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| 02:40.22 | cjaymes | does debian run on a cisco router ? :) |
| 02:40.32 | IceTox | pabl0, well, it seems I don't have any c compiler at all.. Is there any special names of these compilers? |
| 02:40.34 | ParoXsitiC | I have 1 monitor and keyboard to share between this comp and the linux, so running any commands takes a minute or two because i haev to switch monitors and keyboard |
| 02:40.45 | abrotman | IceTox: build-essential |
| 02:40.51 | nanok | IceTox: build-essential |
| 02:40.54 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: %debsums -c; will give you a list of stuff that hasn't got sums or the sums have changed from what they should be |
| 02:40.56 | IceTox | ty abrotman and nanok |
| 02:40.59 | pablum | IceTox, gcc is the compiler for linux |
| 02:41.01 | rolo | can i mount an DVD iso image , to play it without burning it ? |
| 02:41.24 | moshii | rolo: mount -o loop /home/me/porn.iso /cdrom |
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| 02:41.32 | pingouin | nanok: ok thanks you for the clues |
| 02:41.34 | rolo | lmaoooooooooooo |
| 02:41.42 | nanok | pingouin: np |
| 02:41.46 | moshii | rolo: if it's video you don't want/need to mount it |
| 02:41.48 | pablum | IceTox, gcc-4.0 |
| 02:41.55 | pablum | or 3.4 |
| 02:41.57 | mentor | ? |
| 02:42.02 | maple | rolo : running mount -t iso9660 -o loop *.iso /mnt/cdrom |
| 02:42.03 | mentor | woah |
| 02:42.07 | mentor | am I now mentor? |
| 02:42.15 | IceTox | so does anyone know how this eterm works? Like I've installed like three times and removed and installed again.. Still no sign of life while running the "eterm" command in terminal. |
| 02:42.19 | cjaymes | mentor, only until you get spanked |
| 02:42.25 | pablum | er... IceTox, try apt-get install gcc-4.0 |
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| 02:42.35 | abrotman | mentor: no more beer for you |
| 02:42.50 | nanok | IceTox: did you try apt-get install eterm? |
| 02:42.53 | moshii | maple: he should use UDF if it's a dvd .. |
| 02:42.57 | IceTox | already got gcc4.0.1-3 pablum :-) |
| 02:42.59 | nanok | IceTox: also, afair it is Eterm |
| 02:43.02 | mentor | ?? this is hexppl...I'm now mentor? |
| 02:43.15 | pablum | but you don't have to, as eterm is a package available in debian |
| 02:43.15 | mentor | guess the /nick thing works even for already existent accounts :-/ |
| 02:43.19 | rolo | moshii : what i want to do then ? |
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| 02:43.32 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: debsumc -c isnt not finding a command |
| 02:43.34 | moshii | rolo: what do you want to play it in? |
| 02:43.36 | IceTox | yes I did nanok and it did get installed successfully too, but still it doesn't exist when I run the command. |
| 02:43.40 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: i tried debsum, debsums, debsumc |
| 02:43.42 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: aptitude install debsums |
| 02:43.46 | cjaymes | mentor, yes, but nickserv will kick you when mentor comes back |
| 02:43.52 | rolo | with ogle |
| 02:43.57 | mentor | o :P |
| 02:43.57 | navarr | My locate isn't working ._. locate: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: No such file or directory |
| 02:44.02 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: I have no internet, i dont think it will install |
| 02:44.04 | rolo | or okle |
| 02:44.11 | nanok | IceTox: try Eterm. also, for future refference, dpkg -L package_name | grep bin |
| 02:44.13 | moshii | rolo: pass the path of the iso instead of the dvd drive |
| 02:44.18 | abrotman | navarr: updated && locate blah |
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| 02:44.20 | abrotman | erm |
| 02:44.21 | moshii | rolo: works with most players .. |
| 02:44.23 | abrotman | navarr: updatedb && locate blah |
| 02:44.28 | mentor | dd |
| 02:44.35 | pablum | IceTox, is the E capitalized??? (trying to remember) |
| 02:44.40 | pablum | the first one |
| 02:44.40 | abrotman | yes |
| 02:44.41 | cjaymes | anyone remember what you're supposed to put in a letter of application? |
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| 02:44.54 | abrotman | cjaymes: you mean a cover letter? |
| 02:45.03 | cjaymes | abrotman, err, yes, that's it |
| 02:45.16 | nanok | cjaymes: i think you will find a lot of examples. google should help |
| 02:45.19 | IceTox | lol.. thank you nanok... Easy as that... :-) *ashamed* |
| 02:45.26 | rolo | thankyou moshii... but now i have another problem |
| 02:45.32 | nanok | IceTox: np |
| 02:45.36 | cjaymes | nanok, only if you give it the right name ;) |
| 02:45.48 | nanok | cjaymes: indeed |
| 02:45.53 | IceTox | no it wasn't pablum.. *still ashamed* :-) |
| 02:45.59 | moshii | rolo: I don't do miracles |
| 02:46.01 | mentor | shouldn't I need to ID myself before I can take this reserved nick? |
| 02:46.06 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: I have no internet, i dont think it will install debsums |
| 02:46.17 | mentor | NickServ sends such a msg yet I am able to send msgs with this nick without IDing |
| 02:46.22 | cjaymes | I wish I was a chick |
| 02:46.30 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: hmm I think you should google that error |
| 02:46.41 | cjaymes | I could print my cover letter on pink paper & spray it with perfume |
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| 02:46.58 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: the SIOCSIFADDR error, I believe its a pretty common error |
| 02:47.08 | mentor | cjaymes are you a crossdresser? |
| 02:47.10 | moshii | cjaymes: everyone knows the least suitable people get the job .. |
| 02:47.21 | nanok | cjaymes: and not work so hard on making it so shity it will be thrown to the bin straight off? |
| 02:47.24 | cjaymes | mentor, nope |
| 02:47.25 | dvs | moshii: word. |
| 02:47.29 | cjaymes | just not fair |
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| 02:47.57 | mentor | but shouldn't I need to auth before I can use this reserved nick? seems like it's a important bug or something IMO |
| 02:48.03 | nanok | cjaymes: life sucks. and than you die |
| 02:48.04 | nanok | :) |
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| 02:48.36 | cjaymes | yeah, life does suck |
| 02:48.45 | moshii | Bosses employ the people least likely to steal their job |
| 02:48.47 | rolo | moshii : when i try to play this iso file .... or even if its the origial DVD movie .... i get this message from ogle |
| 02:48.48 | rolo | !!!!!###!!#!!!FATAL[ogle_audio]: failed opening the oss audio driver at /dev/dsp |
| 02:48.48 | rolo | #ctrl: ipc_rmid: Invalid argument |
| 02:48.48 | cjaymes | I haven't had any guinness tonight |
| 02:48.57 | pablum | IceTox, don't be ashamed, the capital is a stupid idea. |
| 02:49.00 | nanok | mentor: you should, but not must. subtle difference ;) |
| 02:49.10 | mentor | yes life is shit....school school school, then work work work..what is our purpose? to work our asses off, get fat, and die? |
| 02:49.17 | moshii | rolo: you have a sound problem then ... You need to load snd-pcm-oss or something along those lines I think |
| 02:49.45 | mentor | life has no purpose... |
| 02:49.50 | mentor | no meaning... |
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| 02:49.54 | moshii | mentor: and you only get paid enough to keep you working ;) |
| 02:50.02 | rolo | ok thankyou moshii ... but talking chinese to me ... where can i get more info about this ... or what i need to do ... or where i do i get it ? |
| 02:50.05 | cjaymes | mentor, guiness |
| 02:50.12 | mentor | ah of course :P |
| 02:50.13 | dvs | guinness |
| 02:50.17 | moshii | rolo: Only started learning chinese today ... |
| 02:50.22 | mmiikkee12 | anyone know why there's a /lib64 in my 32bit debian install? |
| 02:50.28 | mentor | meh or stay high all your life.. |
| 02:50.36 | cjaymes | dvs, it's been so long |
| 02:50.46 | mentor | I know some ppl who do that.. |
| 02:50.47 | moshii | rolo: the player you're using wants to use the old oss way of doing sound, your system is probably using alsa |
| 02:50.51 | dvs | cjaymes: it won't be much longer for me. ;-) |
| 02:51.11 | moshii | rolo: so you need the oss emulation module loaded, or an alsa output driver for your player |
| 02:51.14 | nanok | rolo: or find out how to tell the player to use alsa |
| 02:51.25 | nanok | rolo: what player is that? |
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| 02:51.28 | Varanger | hello |
| 02:51.33 | cjaymes | I'm having a hard time not going & buying a six-pack of guinness & killians |
| 02:51.35 | mentor | oh wait I know my purpose... |
| 02:51.35 | Varanger | I am installing Debian from debootstrap |
| 02:51.49 | Varanger | Everything is working great until I do: base-config |
| 02:51.51 | cjaymes | but darn it, I should be saving my money |
| 02:51.57 | Varanger | I get a "Terminated" message! |
| 02:52.01 | Varanger | What can I do?? |
| 02:52.11 | moshii | Varanger: what dist are you getting debootstrap to build? |
| 02:52.14 | pingouin | nanok: i've just change for new nvidia-drivers - i know it's not debian, but need openGL for playing Q4- and X turn at 75hz refresh rate,- xrandr -q - i've switch back to an older version and i got the 1280x1024 at 85hz - as usually , any idea how to switch by hands the refresh rate ? |
| 02:52.17 | mentor | to find a exploit to microsofts network...gain ownership of microsoft.com, point it to a anti microsoft site and for update.microsoft.com, have a update released to all users that installs viruses, spyware, and adware |
| 02:52.20 | Varanger | moshii: stable |
| 02:52.24 | mentor | thus ensuring microsofts downfall :-D |
| 02:52.32 | rolo | moshi ... its ogle plater |
| 02:52.38 | cjaymes | mentor, you forgot profit |
| 02:52.52 | Varanger | moshii: stable / sarge |
| 02:53.01 | nanok | pingouin: older version of what? |
| 02:53.03 | mentor | who cares, if microsoft dies then linux and macs can rule the world and microsofts clients can burn in hell |
| 02:53.08 | moshii | Varanger: mm I've never had problems with that |
| 02:53.10 | pablum | mentor, you'd still have to use VB to do that. |
| 02:53.17 | pingouin | nanok: older version of nvidia drivers |
| 02:53.27 | moshii | Varanger: have you tried testing instead? |
| 02:53.47 | cjaymes | mentor, just think, if it wasn't for microsoft, you would be sniping at apple |
| 02:54.02 | Varanger | moshii: I tried sid but there wasn't console-data |
| 02:54.13 | pingouin | nanok: the older version found the 85hz at 1280x1024, i need to make it by hands on the new version of nvidia's driver that by default turns at 75hz - strange - |
| 02:54.14 | nanok | pingouin: oh, ok. maybe you should stick to those, than. nvidia has a tendency of fucking up all the time.. |
| 02:54.21 | mentor | dunno, apple seems to have a high level of quality...assuming they kept it if there was no microsoft I would still support 'em |
| 02:54.32 | pingouin | nanok: yep, i've get back to older one, i stay with it |
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| 02:54.47 | rolo | where is default location for alsa ? |
| 02:54.50 | pingouin | 1280x1024 at 75hz is not bearable |
| 02:55.08 | mentor | would be funny to go back in time...back when microsoft was just starting...and talk to bill gates about alternative ventures...get him to drop microsoft...perhaps continue working on OS/2... |
| 02:55.08 | moshii | Varanger: you could add console-data into the packages it needs.. you need to dig around in the control files for that |
| 02:55.13 | maple | rolo ...alsa .whick country? |
| 02:55.15 | mentor | :P now that would be interesting to see |
| 02:55.18 | abrotman | mentor: can you go to ##windows? |
| 02:55.18 | nanok | pingouin: if you are using kde, there is a nice applet , screen resize and rotate, i think, that comes with it |
| 02:55.22 | rolo | lmao |
| 02:55.23 | mentor | (how the world would change) |
| 02:55.27 | moshii | Varanger: still, i'd tried testing, I built one of those yesterday and it works |
| 02:55.27 | pingouin | nanok: ;) flwm ;) |
| 02:55.29 | abrotman | mentor: and please change your nick back |
| 02:55.30 | mmiikkee12 | how can i troubleshoot x segfaulting? |
| 02:55.37 | mentor | :P |
| 02:55.39 | pablum | mentor, the reason apple switched to intel is they're more interested in DRM |
| 02:55.47 | maple | lmao? |
| 02:55.48 | nanok | pingouin: you shouldnt, imho, go beyond the usage of that, unless you really need to |
| 02:55.57 | nanok | pingouin: than xrandr should be it |
| 02:56.09 | maple | i am chinese people |
| 02:56.14 | hexppl | pablum: I don't think apple is looking for a way to make money uneededly |
| 02:56.20 | navarr | abrotman: can you help me? I want to know how to mount my second hdd as /backup... right now I've tried some stuff, and its not working properly.. |
| 02:56.33 | abrotman | what filesystem is it? |
| 02:56.34 | hexppl | besides apple already charges a premium for their computers and makes lots of money that way |
| 02:56.41 | abrotman | or try #osx ? |
| 02:56.50 | pingouin | nanok: i'm looking how to use it (just understand how to query the actual values) |
| 02:56.57 | navarr | abrotman: Default Debian, its where i stored all of my user files before i had to reinstall Debian |
| 02:56.58 | moshii | hexppl: they make more money from ipods though, said state for them |
| 02:57.03 | hexppl | friendly conversation hurt abrotman? |
| 02:57.17 | abrotman | hexppl: it's OT .. not at all related to Debian |
| 02:57.18 | moshii | hexppl: s/said/sad/ |
| 02:57.35 | abrotman | navarr: no .. what is on the other harddrive ? |
| 02:57.43 | ParoXsitiC | How can i check if my NIC modules are getting correctly ran? |
| 02:57.46 | hexppl | sure it is...if microsoft died then debian could rule ;) |
| 02:57.47 | hexppl | :P |
| 02:57.59 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: lsmod | grep modulename |
| 02:58.03 | navarr | abrotman: all of my old user files, i copied them over before reinstalling Debian.. all of my websites, all of my scripts. |
| 02:58.12 | rolo | i mean i am trying to get ogle to use alssa ... but it asks for a location for the driver |
| 02:58.12 | hexppl | in fact just or you I'd point microsot.com to debian.org ::) |
| 02:58.21 | abrotman | navarr: and what filesystem is on the other HDD .. ntfs? fat32? ext3 ? |
| 02:58.21 | nanok | pingouin: i think -r is what you want |
| 02:58.23 | rolo | does anyone knows where that location defualts to ? |
| 02:58.25 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: what if I do not have the modulename on hand |
| 02:58.30 | nanok | pingouin: man xrandr, anyway |
| 02:58.40 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: lsmod and scan through the list |
| 02:58.46 | navarr | abrotman: I think its ext3.. |
| 02:58.46 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: thought so, thanks |
| 02:58.53 | abrotman | navarr: is it hdb ? |
| 02:58.56 | cjaymes | oh dang |
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| 02:59.01 | obscuresoul | hello |
| 02:59.04 | navarr | abrotman: No, i use hdb as my main, its hda |
| 02:59.08 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: dmesg | grep chipset_number_or_something might be a good idea too |
| 02:59.12 | pingouin | nanok: you surely right, surely a bug in newer nvidia's drivers to grab the correct refresh rate by itself - thus the older do the correct one - |
| 02:59.17 | navarr | abrotman: at least, i think i do o0; |
| 02:59.19 | abrotman | navarr: fdisk -l /dev/hda .. what's on it ? |
| 02:59.22 | pingouin | nanok: thank you very much for you're help |
| 02:59.24 | cjaymes | does the pocketpc with linux stuff work yet? |
| 02:59.37 | nanok | pingouin: np. have fun |
| 02:59.44 | cjaymes | what's it called... |
| 02:59.47 | moshii | cjaymes: running linux on a pocketpc? or connecting to one? :) |
| 02:59.57 | cjaymes | syncing with one |
| 02:59.59 | hexppl | ohh linux on a pocketpc? |
| 03:00.00 | hexppl | neat |
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| 03:00.13 | cjaymes | nah, pocketpc is fine the way it is; it's my phone too |
| 03:00.16 | navarr | abrotman: which of that am i supposed to show you? |
| 03:00.18 | moshii | hexppl: yep, and you can get a debian based distro :) |
| 03:00.18 | hexppl | or how about linux on a ipod ;) |
| 03:00.23 | abrotman | navarr: paste it in #flood |
| 03:00.27 | cjaymes | but syncing is very much nice |
| 03:00.29 | moshii | hexppl: not really worth it |
| 03:00.36 | cjaymes | synce, that's it |
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| 03:00.53 | hexppl | nice...heard that linux on a pocket pc is somewhat burdened by the fact that alot of space is already consumed by the apps in the ROM |
| 03:00.57 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: I seem to have a prase lsmod list. here ate the modules: ext3, jbd, ide-detect, via82cxxx, ide-disk, ide-core, unix |
| 03:01.00 | hexppl | tho |
| 03:01.03 | mmiikkee12 | is there a replacement for X? |
| 03:01.10 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: i dont think one of them is a NIC...Is there suppose to be more modules |
| 03:01.17 | alaric542 | Hello I'm on AMD64 and want to install wine, what is the dpkg command to force the architecture please? |
| 03:01.18 | hexppl | mike: there's light weight managers... |
| 03:01.21 | hexppl | like icebox I think |
| 03:01.24 | abrotman | !berlin |
| 03:01.24 | dpkg | hmm... berlin is an extension of fresco to a complete windowing system, using its own drawing libraries and a component loader. it works, is pretty, and is LGPL. it does not yet do enough to make it worth switching from X, but it will. Visit http://www.berlin-consortium.org for more info. or [Q: Why is it consortium? do dict consortium], or at #berlin, or now called fresco, see http://www.fresco.org |
| 03:01.41 | moshii | alaric542: you needed a 32bit chroot for wine last time I looked |
| 03:01.41 | hexppl | !wikipedia |
| 03:01.55 | alaric542 | I was trying to avoid chroot this time :( |
| 03:01.59 | hexppl | !dpkg |
| 03:01.59 | dpkg | from memory, dpkg is mad |
| 03:02.06 | hexppl | o_O |
| 03:02.10 | moshii | hexppl: hmm not a problem if you have a big cf card or something |
| 03:02.15 | abrotman | navarr: man mount & man fstab .. those together should give you enough info |
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| 03:02.29 | obscuresoul | there is any package with a program to check the integrity of a file with md5? |
| 03:02.34 | hexppl | !say why dpkg is mad |
| 03:02.34 | dpkg | why dpkg is mad |
| 03:02.39 | alaric542 | well I just wanna try it, what's the option to force a i386 package on a amd64 system? |
| 03:02.42 | hexppl | !why are you mad |
| 03:02.42 | dpkg | hexppl: what are you talking about? |
| 03:02.52 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: but they're in lspci? |
| 03:02.54 | navarr | abrotman: I've tried mounting it before.. infact, it should still be in that mount file... *fetches* |
| 03:02.59 | ParoXsitiC | moshii: yeah |
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| 03:03.06 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: post them |
| 03:03.07 | hexppl | !about |
| 03:03.07 | dpkg | enter /msg dpkg help in your IRC client |
| 03:03.09 | mmiikkee12 | !say !say !say |
| 03:03.09 | dpkg | !say !say |
| 03:03.09 | unstable | Why has xvidcap been on the ftp master's new list for a year...what has to happen for it to go in? |
| 03:03.12 | hexppl | !credits |
| 03:03.15 | ParoXsitiC | post the lspci? |
| 03:03.20 | abrotman | !botabuse |
| 03:03.20 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 03:03.20 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: google what module they need and try inserting the modules |
| 03:03.25 | navarr | abrotman: /dev/hda1 /backup proc defaults 0 0 |
| 03:03.30 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: Just the network entries |
| 03:03.33 | mmiikkee12 | darn, i wanted an infinite loop ;) |
| 03:03.44 | hexppl | mike: lol |
| 03:03.53 | abrotman | navarr: it's not a proc filesystem |
| 03:03.57 | jarryd | damnit, I can't seem to get any linux variant to install my nforce nic card! |
| 03:03.58 | nanok | obscuresoul: md5sum |
| 03:03.59 | navarr | abrotman: do i need to change "proc" to "ext3"? |
| 03:04.05 | mmiikkee12 | !meow |
| 03:04.05 | ParoXsitiC | 0000:00:09.0 3Come Corp. 3c905C-TX/TX-M [tornado] (rev 74) |
| 03:04.10 | mmiikkee12 | ok, i'll stop |
| 03:04.13 | abrotman | probably .. and you probably want defaults,user |
| 03:04.15 | hexppl | just do something in terminal like var a = 0; while (a==0){echo "loop!"} |
| 03:04.25 | navarr | abrotman: why user? what will that do? |
| 03:04.26 | ParoXsitiC | 000:00:0a.0 D-Link System Inc DFE-530TX+ |
| 03:04.27 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: that's 3c59x |
| 03:04.30 | pablum | I love tuna, I love liver |
| 03:04.36 | moshii | hexppl: yes is fun too |
| 03:04.37 | mmiikkee12 | hexppl: i meant in the bot ;) |
| 03:04.38 | abrotman | navarr: man mount :) |
| 03:04.38 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: I think that's via-rhine |
| 03:04.39 | hexppl | !bark |
| 03:04.39 | mmiikkee12 | hmm |
| 03:04.47 | abrotman | hexppl: stop fucking with the damn bot |
| 03:04.56 | mmiikkee12 | oh, it would decrease the !say s each time |
| 03:04.56 | hexppl | k |
| 03:05.02 | moshii | ParoXsitiC: I've have trouble with those before |
| 03:05.04 | mmiikkee12 | hexppl: #debian-bots |
| 03:05.10 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: Are you saying its 3c59x and not 3c905C as it lists? |
| 03:05.13 | navarr | abrotman: no, not user, just defaults works for it.. ill just copy the data. |
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| 03:05.18 | hexppl | it has those eggs in it tho...it's like it's meant to be played with ::P |
| 03:05.18 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: Yes |
| 03:05.28 | obscuresoul | nanok, which packages contains md5sum? |
| 03:05.36 | abrotman | navarr: uhm ok |
| 03:05.37 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: that's the kernel module |
| 03:05.42 | nanok | obscuresoul: apt-cache search md5sum |
| 03:05.45 | abrotman | hexppl: fine .. play with it elsewhere |
| 03:05.45 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: why is it listing them wrong suddently. Both hey correctly loaded and worked for months, and today they dont |
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| 03:06.02 | navarr | abrotman: thanks for all your help! Alltho, I was asking pretty noobish stuff, im still getting used to Debian :p |
| 03:06.17 | abrotman | navarr: it's ok .. as long as you're willing to learn .. |
| 03:06.19 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: lspci lists it right, it's just the name the kernel people gave it |
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| 03:06.30 | obscuresoul | nanok, tks |
| 03:06.33 | pablum | lessee, Friday (and excuse to get drunk), St. Paddies day (another excuse to get drunk), and it's raining. Think I'll stay inside.. |
| 03:06.36 | navarr | abrotman: Of course^^ Ill probably end up talking to you again, i know this is neither the first, nor the last time I will :p |
| 03:06.58 | ParoXsitiC | I believe my geenral probably is that not enough modules are being loaded. Only 7 or so, I believe its not loading all the modules, not just the NIC. IPtables also does not work but I figure it was related to the internet problem |
| 03:07.00 | abrotman | navarr: as long as you're having fun :) |
| 03:07.00 | hexppl | hey they get to play with the bot tho...XP *shuts up* |
| 03:07.17 | navarr | abrotman: learning linux? loads of fun :p |
| 03:07.33 | abrotman | hexppl: right .. but you just keep doing it .. gets annoying after a while |
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| 03:07.59 | mmiikkee12 | hexppl: abrotman isn't in #debian-bots :D |
| 03:08.15 | mmiikkee12 | it has a tom of bots to play with ;) |
| 03:08.16 | abrotman | i'm not .. but be nice to the bots |
| 03:08.18 | mmiikkee12 | *ton |
| 03:08.23 | hexppl | lol |
| 03:08.39 | ParoXsitiC | Is it possible that something would cause modules to stop being auto-loaded. lsmod lists very sparse results |
| 03:08.39 | hexppl | meh I'm just pming this bot |
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| 03:08.59 | hexppl | ? |
| 03:09.14 | nanok | ParoXsitiC: any erors in logs? dmesg and such? |
| 03:09.28 | ParoXsitiC | nanok: How can i look at dmesg |
| 03:09.40 | nanok | ParoXsitiC: type dmesg |
| 03:09.43 | mmiikkee12 | hexppl, much more fun to make them fight each other |
| 03:09.49 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: modprobe rhine ......would that load the rhine module to test if its the correct one |
| 03:09.53 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: How are they being autoloaded? |
| 03:10.06 | ParoXsitiC | Please keep in mine im only a few months new to linux |
| 03:10.09 | ParoXsitiC | mind |
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| 03:10.14 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: It's either via-rhine or rtl8139 |
| 03:10.34 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: ill load-unload both and see if it fixes anything |
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| 03:10.51 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: Only one of them should load |
| 03:10.53 | maple | dvs: |
| 03:10.57 | nanok | ParoXsitiC: something _has_ happened, as a matter of fact.. |
| 03:10.58 | dvs | maple: |
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| 03:11.20 | maple | dvs:via-rhine |
| 03:11.23 | nanok | ParoXsitiC: just keep that in mind, for future refference |
| 03:11.27 | nanok | ParoXsitiC: ;) |
| 03:11.39 | ParoXsitiC | nanok: I thought you figured it out, got me worked up |
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| 03:11.44 | maple | dvs: via-rhine II |
| 03:11.54 | ParoXsitiC | brb testing modules |
| 03:12.06 | jarryd | ok, what does it mean when synaptic tells me that something depends on some lib but it won't be installed? |
| 03:12.13 | nanok | ParoXsitiC: nope. cant quite tell right now, there can be any of many things.. |
| 03:12.49 | nanok | i thnk i need to sleep |
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| 03:13.03 | curt | where would the powerdev group come from? Showed up in my log tonight after dist-upgrades. |
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| 03:13.43 | nanok | curt: acpi maybe, or something of the kind.. |
| 03:13.51 | mmiikkee12 | http://pastebin.com/608527 - possibly the most entertaining use of the bots :D *stops abusing bots* |
| 03:14.26 | hexppl | !fuck me |
| 03:14.36 | mmiikkee12 | erm |
| 03:14.51 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: when i try 'modprobe via-rhine' i get 'cannot locate via-rhine , the same with rt18139 |
| 03:14.55 | hexppl | now that's interesting o_O |
| 03:15.07 | Goat25 | haha |
| 03:15.08 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: Did you compile the kernel yourself? |
| 03:15.13 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: no |
| 03:15.34 | mmiikkee12 | now. |
| 03:15.35 | nanok | ParoXsitiC: uname -r |
| 03:15.37 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: as Ive stated before, this has worked perfect for months, just today acted up and I did not change anything |
| 03:15.38 | ParoXsitiC | okay |
| 03:16.09 | nanok | ParoXsitiC: something _has_ happened. maybe fs corruption, but i doubt it |
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| 03:16.52 | mmiikkee12 | http://pastebin.com/608530 - something is clearly broken. any ideas? |
| 03:17.07 | GaiaX11 | Somebody told me that NetBSD is better than Linux. And that he gave up using Linux because of that. Any opinions. |
| 03:17.07 | mmiikkee12 | (also, why does the log say to check the log) |
| 03:17.28 | ParoXsitiC | nanok: 2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 03:17.53 | phogg | GaiaX11: you can always find some people who have strange tastes. |
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| 03:18.45 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: did you check the BTS? |
| 03:18.48 | maalox | nanok: You're still here :) |
| 03:18.56 | nanok | ParoXsitiC: ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r` |
| 03:19.01 | moshii | GaiaX11: depends what arch you're running, but really linux, netbsd are about the same |
| 03:19.01 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: is it uncommon for the system to be unable to locate via-rhine and rtl8139 |
| 03:19.01 | nanok | maalox: sort of |
| 03:19.03 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: wtf is the bts? |
| 03:19.08 | abrotman | !bts |
| 03:19.08 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 03:19.09 | nanok | maalox: i should actualy be asleep |
| 03:19.11 | GaiaX11 | And this person is an Op's debian channel. How can I understand that? |
| 03:19.11 | mmiikkee12 | !tell me about bts |
| 03:19.13 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: very |
| 03:19.26 | maalox | nanok: sleep's always good |
| 03:19.40 | cjaymes_ | anyone ever hear of a yahoo <-> evolution or yahoo <-> multisync program? |
| 03:19.46 | nanok | maalox: waste of time, if you ask me, cant do w/o it, though :/ |
| 03:19.53 | maalox | =\ |
| 03:20.10 | maple | GaiaX11: do not talk about this / it 's no idea |
| 03:20.12 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: looks like a bug in the 810 driver. |
| 03:20.16 | ParoXsitiC | Someone has IMed and told me their friends have 'hacked' me, however he explained how they did it by saying 'Convering a PHP script to CCS to get a password' so I think he is just BSing |
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| 03:20.37 | ParoXsitiC | Man, I really need to proof read what I type |
| 03:20.42 | nanok | maalox: i can't even remember what i talked to you about. i definetly need some time offline.. |
| 03:20.52 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: i also tried vesa (i think that's what that pastebin is from, not sure) |
| 03:20.52 | curt | hehe |
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| 03:21.08 | GaiaX11 | He is a debian Op and at the same time talks badly about Linux???!!!! |
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| 03:21.12 | abrotman | adrianmonk: but you're on tv! |
| 03:21.19 | adrianmonk | right now? |
| 03:21.21 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: there's nothing in the bts on this :S |
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| 03:21.32 | abrotman | GaiaX11: so what? .. people have opinions |
| 03:21.39 | AbsolutZer0 | what they heck is going on |
| 03:21.48 | dondelelcaro | GaiaX11: you realize that we have multiple kernels, right? Some people prefer Debian GNU/kFreeBSD |
| 03:22.04 | AbsolutZer0 | it says my nick is owned by such such IP adress and it shows my IP adress |
| 03:22.14 | nanok | dondelelcaro: mmiikkee12 there seems to be a problem with the ram. is it a ram-sharing video card? i forgot to ask you |
| 03:22.22 | mmiikkee12 | nanok: yeah, i810 |
| 03:22.28 | mmiikkee12 | see mailing list ;) |
| 03:22.34 | AbsolutZer0 | but it says it is in use, so can I get NickServ to kick that guy? |
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| 03:22.46 | dondelelcaro | AbsolutZer0: yes, /msg nickserv help ghost |
| 03:22.54 | AbsolutZer0 | danke |
| 03:23.15 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: you read *all* the bugs for xserver-xorg in 2 minutes? |
| 03:23.23 | GaiaX11 | I know but isn't it a contradiction? I mean being a debian Op and talking badly about his own channel? |
| 03:23.27 | ParoXsitiC | nanok: ls -l /lib/modules/'uname -r' does not work, but i know what you were trying to do so i replaced 'uname -r' with 2.4.27-2-386 and I got 2 dir's initred and kernal, and some modules.* files |
| 03:24.22 | nanok | ParoXsitiC: indeed, those were backquotes. the ones on the ~, on a us keyboard |
| 03:24.23 | adrianmonk | how stable is the amd64-native version of debian? |
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| 03:24.57 | abrotman | which version of it? |
| 03:25.11 | ParoXsitiC | nanok: I see. |
| 03:25.13 | nanok | ParoXsitiC: ok, try to find the module files. you can use locate for now.. |
| 03:25.15 | AbsolutZer0 | well that was useful, NickServ just got auto-ignored for ten minutes |
| 03:25.16 | adrianmonk | how stable is the most stable amd64 debian linux version? |
| 03:25.18 | abrotman | GaiaX11: go ask him |
| 03:25.20 | ParoXsitiC | nanok: okay. |
| 03:25.25 | abrotman | adrianmonk: ask #debian-amd64 :) |
| 03:25.32 | adrianmonk | ahh, ok thanks |
| 03:25.54 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: find /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386 -name 'via-rhine*' |
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| 03:26.29 | dougiefresh | is there anything in debian thats like fedora cores setarch command? |
| 03:27.10 | nanok | ok. off to the pitstop. |
| 03:27.33 | abrotman | dougiefresh: which does ... ? |
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| 03:28.16 | dougiefresh | I believe it sets the architech for specific programs to run, I'm having a program running ts and the support says it has to do with the arch adn to change it to i386 |
| 03:28.30 | dougiefresh | running debian inside a vz |
| 03:28.32 | ParoXsitiC | nanok: I located via-rhine to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/via-rhine.o |
| 03:28.49 | ParoXsitiC | nanok: however, no rtl8139 anywhere, not even in the same dir |
| 03:28.56 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: so modprobe via-rhine should work |
| 03:29.05 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: no |
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| 03:29.28 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: What does it say? |
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| 03:29.52 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: can't find module? |
| 03:29.54 | none | okay it says it has been killed but it still wont let me use my registerde nick... |
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| 03:30.37 | none | says a nickname change is pending |
| 03:30.37 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: yeah |
| 03:31.14 | Goat25 | anyone know how to control how many named threads/processes get initially spawned with bind9 ? |
| 03:31.20 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: it seems to me that modprobe is not looking in the correct directory |
| 03:31.21 | mmiikkee12 | none: /msg nickserv release nick pswd? |
| 03:31.51 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: according to the man page, it looks in /lib/modules/`uname -r` |
| 03:32.18 | mmiikkee12 | this sounds like my problem: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=355125 |
| 03:32.24 | mmiikkee12 | now how do i fix it? |
| 03:33.16 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: try running depmod |
| 03:33.55 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: depmod -a or depmod via-rhine or which syntax |
| 03:34.10 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: just depmod |
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| 03:34.45 | pollywog | are lots of Sarge packages broken or am I wrong? |
| 03:34.59 | Goat25 | they seem fine to me |
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| 03:35.14 | pollywog | and btw is it very risky to upgrade to unstable? |
| 03:35.41 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: very few sarge packages are broken, actually... |
| 03:35.46 | pollywog | that seems to be the only way I can instal;l some things |
| 03:35.58 | pollywog | PythonCard is only in unstable |
| 03:36.06 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: if you want newer versions of some things, get backports of t hem. |
| 03:36.32 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: you should try using 6.8 from snapshot.debian.net and see if the problem repeats. |
| 03:36.33 | pollywog | is backports.org the only place to get them? |
| 03:36.48 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: no, apt-get.org has them as well, and you can make them yourself too. |
| 03:37.02 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: depmod says a kernal/drivers/char/rio with input/output error, and unsolved in 4 bluetooth dir and 2 in the block dir |
| 03:37.03 | pollywog | making them is not working out |
| 03:37.15 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: how do i get that? |
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| 03:37.19 | pollywog | it becomes a long string of things I need to build |
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| 03:37.24 | pollywog | very confusing |
| 03:37.27 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: snapshot.debian.net has instructions |
| 03:37.29 | mmiikkee12 | wait, tell me when i come back |
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| 03:37.35 | pollywog | a spaghetti of dependencies |
| 03:37.49 | dougiefresh | nothing similar to setarch for debian? |
| 03:38.00 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: Did you make custom modules? |
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| 03:38.24 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: ha no. everything is exactly how it was 10 min. after i installed it....4 months ago |
| 03:38.24 | Sonny | hello how can I specify a size for all my desktop's icons? (in gnome) |
| 03:38.53 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: i dont even run x or anything, i just run it from the command line...and host a server |
| 03:39.00 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: apt-get --reinstall install kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 03:39.14 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: uh... it only builddepends on python-dev, so it should be trivial to backport. |
| 03:39.22 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: would that require internet, because i with no modules loading, i have no net |
| 03:39.25 | paul_ | After a fresh format, installing Debian Sid - I could start the x server. Now that i've installed gnome, I cannot. Help? |
| 03:39.30 | pollywog | trivial huh |
| 03:39.57 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: True. Does "modprobe via-rhine" work now? |
| 03:40.06 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: no, it still cannot locate it |
| 03:40.56 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: Then I don't know how you can resolve this. I'd reinstall the kernel somehow. |
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| 03:41.11 | paul_ | :( |
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| 03:41.54 | dondelelcaro | !tell pollywog about simple sid backport |
| 03:42.03 | pollywog | ty |
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| 03:43.03 | unstable | dondelelcaro: Why has xvidcap been on the ftp master's new list for a year...what has to happen for it to go in? |
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| 03:43.31 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: ok, back in linux, now what? |
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| 03:44.07 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: i think ive ran into some trouble before with the difference of D-Link DFE-530-TX and my card ( D-Link DFE-530-TX+) theplus being crucial |
| 03:44.09 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: snapshot.debian.net has instructions on how to get the 6.8 version of xorg |
| 03:44.26 | dondelelcaro | unstable: it most likely has legal issues which are keeping it from being accepted |
| 03:44.36 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: yeah, they use two different drivers |
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| 03:44.53 | pollywog | apt-get build-dep libgconf2-4 and I get this: |
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| 03:45.05 | pollywog | E: Unable to find a source package for gconf2 |
| 03:45.11 | rock_staff | good night .... |
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| 03:45.22 | pollywog | so the backport would seem to be a difficult thing |
| 03:45.26 | ParoXsitiC | dvs: TX+ uses rtl8139.c ..... I could try to put it on linux VIA floppy...if i knew how ot use linux floppu |
| 03:45.29 | rock_staff | ermmmm .... someone can recomend to me .... some softwrae to burn cds in debian ? :x |
| 03:45.40 | abrotman | gnomebaker, k3b |
| 03:45.41 | dvs | ParoXsitiC: or maybe 8139too |
| 03:45.50 | pollywog | k3b is nice |
| 03:46.01 | brianJP | hey, i just updated debian unstable and now kicker does not show up, anyone else experience this? |
| 03:46.06 | dondelelcaro | unstable: just as a guess, I think it's the mpeg stuff. |
| 03:46.19 | dondelelcaro | !+info kicker |
| 03:46.20 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 03:46.23 | dpkg | kicker: (desktop panel for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1939 kB, Installed size: 5393 kB |
| 03:47.05 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: i can't get to snapshots.debian.org |
| 03:47.16 | abrotman | snapshot.debian.net |
| 03:47.19 | abrotman | !sdn |
| 03:47.19 | dpkg | methinks sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problems. |
| 03:47.23 | ParoXsitiC | Is the command 'insmod' for debian. Because my via-rhine is via-rhine.o maybe id have to insmod via-rhine.o |
| 03:47.29 | dondelelcaro | mindstrm: .net |
| 03:47.29 | mmiikkee12 | ok |
| 03:47.33 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: use modprobe |
| 03:47.38 | dondelelcaro | s/mindstrm/mmiikkee12/ |
| 03:47.42 | dvs | !insmod |
| 03:47.42 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet?. Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer |
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| 03:48.30 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: i want xserver-xorg 6.8 right? |
| 03:48.41 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: the last 6.8 version, yes. See if that works |
| 03:49.16 | rock_staff | someone can recomend to me some good software to burn cds in debian? :x |
| 03:49.23 | rock_staff | no downlods fom synaptic :x |
| 03:49.32 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: now i have a bunch of .dsc files to pick from |
| 03:49.50 | pollywog | oh I found a way around it I might be able to make the backport |
| 03:49.52 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: you add the appropriate line to your sources.list, and then use aptitude or similar to install the right server. |
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| 03:49.59 | mmiikkee12 | oh |
| 03:50.17 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: around it? I just made it. It's trivial. |
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| 03:50.34 | pollywog | you made pythoncard? |
| 03:50.45 | pollywog | it should be trivial |
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| 03:50.55 | pollywog | but I have had nothing but problems |
| 03:50.58 | juice` | have anyone seen sqlite manager in .deb packages? |
| 03:53.26 | rock_staff | ahhhhhhh k3b :p i understand now duno you anser for me sorry thanks :p |
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| 03:54.31 | dondelelcaro | juice`: freshmeat doesn't even know about that... |
| 03:54.43 | abrotman | bah .. what does freshmeat know ... |
| 03:54.44 | obscuresoul | the package ftp-ssl only works if the other side has ftpd? |
| 03:55.16 | pollywog | no not trivial now it asks for yet another package that is newer than sarge |
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| 03:55.23 | pollywog | it never ends |
| 03:55.54 | jarryd | ugh, if this is going to be my experience with linux on this pc, I think 64bits is overrated!!! |
| 03:56.13 | jarryd | sorry... bad way to enter a channel |
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| 03:56.36 | jerware | im having trouble compileing a program what does this error mean? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/wAPsjW19.html |
| 03:56.36 | juice` | dondelelcaro: freshmeat? http://freshmeat.net/projects/silsm/ |
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| 03:56.50 | juice` | dondelelcaro: this is first link that came out, i can find you many more if you want |
| 03:56.54 | jerware | i ran ./configure and make like the documentation says so |
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| 03:57.14 | ParoXsitiC | Modprobe does not to seem to want to load anything. I it cant locate it. I tried to modprobe ip_tables and still noting |
| 03:57.21 | dougiefresh | anyone wanna help me get a teamspeak server running inside a debian virtual server running on fc4? lol |
| 03:57.29 | juice` | dondelelcaro: another one http://freshmeat.net/projects/wizsqliteadmin/ |
| 03:57.49 | dondelelcaro | juice`: those are different projects; when you ask for a package here, we assume you mean just one of them. |
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| 03:58.19 | juice` | dondelelcaro: i mean, is there ANY sqlite manager packaged in .deb files anywhere in the world |
| 03:58.55 | dondelelcaro | juice`: it's in sqlite |
| 03:59.23 | dondelelcaro | the command line interace to sqlite is a manager for sqlite |
| 04:00.07 | obscuresoul | the package ftp-ssl only works if the other side has ftpd? |
| 04:00.08 | juice` | dondelelcaro: oh, right. then i meant manager with web interface :) |
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| 04:02.13 | cunzhang | how to compile bootsplash in Debian? |
| 04:02.27 | jarryd | can anyone assist me in getting the dang nforce audio drivers working? |
| 04:02.41 | unix_infidel | jarryd: nforce? |
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| 04:03.10 | unix_infidel | just find the correct module, modprobe it, and configure with alsa. |
| 04:03.16 | pollywog | configure: error: Library requirements (gmodule-2.0 |
| 04:03.21 | abrotman | it depends on the version of nforce |
| 04:03.21 | ParoXsitiC | If i was to remove /lib/modules/<version>/modules.dep , would modprobe reconfigure it |
| 04:03.27 | ParoXsitiC | at reboot |
| 04:03.29 | pollywog | what is this gmodule and why can I not find it? |
| 04:03.36 | scx | Quiz: how do I add a folder to my $PATH$ ??? |
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| 04:03.43 | jarryd | nForce4 |
| 04:03.47 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: apparently i have something wrong. it's asking for my debian cd. |
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| 04:04.12 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: you didn't add the line appropriately in your sources.list then |
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| 04:04.25 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: how are you trying to even backport it? |
| 04:04.40 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: you need to backport pythoncard and python-wxgtk2.6 |
| 04:04.44 | mmiikkee12 | deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2005/12/24 unstable main contrib non-free |
| 04:04.51 | mmiikkee12 | what should i have there? |
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| 04:05.14 | pollywog | dondelelcaro: I forgot to mention I am trying something easier just to get started |
| 04:05.14 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: you want deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool xorg-x11 |
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| 04:05.24 | cunzhang | my kernel said kernel panic when I /sbin/splash -s -f /etc/bootsplash/themes/current/config/bootsplash-1024x768.cfg >>/boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-686 that had been compiled with bootsplash |
| 04:05.25 | pollywog | then I will go back to pythoncard |
| 04:05.31 | abrotman | what happened to the curl interface in apt-file ? |
| 04:05.43 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: it's still there, it just uses it or wget |
| 04:05.47 | dondelelcaro | or at least, I think it's still there |
| 04:05.50 | pollywog | I am trying to get gconf installed in order to finish installing orpenoffice 2 |
| 04:05.58 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: it used to show percentages .. no longer |
| 04:06.14 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: and what am i supposed to be installing? |
| 04:06.20 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: why are you installing it manually? install the packaged versions |
| 04:06.36 | pollywog | dondelelcaro: it is too old |
| 04:06.38 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: can i just give you ssh access? :) |
| 04:06.40 | KeyserSoze | i have a debian box that has run flawlessly for over a year. i went to install software just now, and there's servers in sources.list it can't get to. is there a way to auto-updates sources.list, or do i just manually remove the ones it can't get to? |
| 04:06.47 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: then get a backport, or upgrade to testing |
| 04:07.10 | dondelelcaro | KeyserSoze: just modify your sources.list to point at a currnet debian mirror. |
| 04:07.11 | dondelelcaro | !mirrors |
| 04:07.12 | dpkg | debian mirrors is, like, use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 04:07.17 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: no |
| 04:07.17 | pollywog | okay I will stop bothering, I will get this sooner or later I just need to keep working |
| 04:07.22 | pollywog | thanks :) |
| 04:07.54 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: well, apt-get install xserver-xorg downloads it from a normal debian mirror. |
| 04:08.12 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: it will. that's why I said to use aptitude to select the 6.8 version of xserver-xorg |
| 04:08.48 | mmiikkee12 | oh |
| 04:08.49 | dondelelcaro | then test, see if it works. If it does, place it on hold until that bug is filled (or unless you feel like testing a new version to see if it has been fixed) |
| 04:09.20 | cunzhang | hi£¬anyone can help me with bootsplash£¿ |
| 04:09.24 | KeyserSoze | sorry, i did something dumb. the server in question is debian-marillat, which it looks like i added at some point to install freevo |
| 04:09.33 | abrotman | !bootsplash |
| 04:09.33 | dpkg | from memory, bootsplash is http://www.bootsplash.org/ && http://www.bootsplash.de (Themes and updates and debian packages) see also gensplash, or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdeskhks/chapter/hack08.pdf, or download kernel sources, apply bootsplash patches to it, enable frambuffer and disable "bootup logo", compile the kernel, install bootsplash package, patch initrd image with "splash", update boot manager and reboot |
| 04:09.39 | dondelelcaro | KeyserSoze: oh. then just remove it |
| 04:09.41 | KeyserSoze | i'm gonna look for freevo related instructions elsewhere. Thanks dondelelcaro |
| 04:09.55 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: it's giving me some package list errors about that mirror |
| 04:10.30 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: yes, it's not authenticated. That's not a big deal. |
| 04:11.23 | mmiikkee12 | no |
| 04:11.32 | mmiikkee12 | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://snapshot.debian.net pool/xorg-x11 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/snapshot.debian.net_archive_dists_pool_xorg-x11_binary -i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://snapshot.debian.net pool/xorg-x11 Packages |
| 04:11.40 | mmiikkee12 | erm, too long of a paste? :S |
| 04:11.56 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: you just need to run aptitude update; again. |
| 04:12.28 | mmiikkee12 | hmm |
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| 04:13.29 | mmiikkee12 | same error again |
| 04:13.35 | mmiikkee12 | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://snapshot.debian.net pool/xorg-x11 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/snapshot.debian.net_archive_dists_pool_xorg-x11_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 04:13.45 | mmiikkee12 | i have to stop pasting these... |
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| 04:13.59 | stealth_ | hi, i use a sound blaster card, Deb says the sounds on but i cant hear anything, anyone know whats wrong? |
| 04:14.19 | abrotman | did you check alsamixer? |
| 04:14.22 | KeyserSoze | what's a good source for multimedia things like mplayer? because that source i specified by recommendation of freevo, was ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat, and it appears to be having problems right now |
| 04:14.35 | stealth_ | not yet, where is it? |
| 04:14.36 | dvs | !tell KeyserSoze -about marillat |
| 04:14.46 | pollywog | Deb? |
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| 04:14.54 | KeyserSoze | dvs: thanks |
| 04:15.02 | abrotman | stealth_: do you know if you're running alsa? |
| 04:15.12 | dvs | KeyserSoze: you're welcome |
| 04:15.43 | stealth_ | not really, first time ive used this distro, but i know its not the first this happens, on BSD the error is no device in /dev/dsp so |
| 04:15.50 | dondelelcaro | mmiikkee12: what is the osurces.list line? |
| 04:16.20 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: shouldn't you be out celebrating St. Patty's day? .. McArmstrong is clearly very irish |
| 04:16.34 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: uh... I'm from clan armstrong. |
| 04:16.52 | dondelelcaro | wrong side island |
| 04:16.54 | dondelelcaro | s/side// |
| 04:17.17 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: come on .. you can put a Mc or O' in front of your surname too .. Today I am O'Brotman! |
| 04:17.29 | priscila | stealth_: did you try adjust volume? :) |
| 04:17.40 | mmiikkee12 | deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool xorg-x11 |
| 04:17.56 | stealth_ | yea i did :D its as loud as it will go :))) |
| 04:17.57 | abrotman | stealth_: what kernel are you running ? |
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| 04:18.46 | stealth_ | Linux 2.4.27-2-386 <-- what i got from ctcp |
| 04:19.27 | abrotman | stealth_: so you're running OSS |
| 04:19.37 | abrotman | unless you've intentionally installed alsa |
| 04:19.43 | abrotman | stealth_: what's your CPU ? |
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| 04:20.07 | stealth_ | i have no idea, a sec :) |
| 04:20.37 | abrotman | you don't know your CPU ? |
| 04:20.42 | mmiikkee12 | dondelelcaro: it works!!!!! |
| 04:20.46 | mmiikkee12 | lan party!! |
| 04:20.47 | mmiikkee12 | jk |
| 04:20.57 | stealth_ | nope, sorry, i didnt build the computer :/ |
| 04:20.57 | vyrus001 | so i copied a filesystem from one hd to a nother as root, now nothing works right because its all su root, anyway to fix things ? |
| 04:21.02 | stealth_ | trying to find out |
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| 04:21.39 | mmiikkee12 | btw |
| 04:21.50 | mmiikkee12 | is there a way to keep a package from being updated? |
| 04:21.58 | abrotman | !tell mmiikkee12 about hold |
| 04:21.59 | jarryd | anyone know how to correct a snd_mixer_load failure in alsa? |
| 04:22.29 | stealth_ | sorry, dont know it, think its intel |
| 04:22.42 | abrotman | stealth_: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 04:22.46 | priscila | mmiikkee12: yes, you can read apt-howto to know how do it |
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| 04:23.02 | mmiikkee12 | priscila: i just got the dpkg msg |
| 04:23.20 | stealth_ | thanks :D |
| 04:23.25 | stealth_ | Intel Pentium III |
| 04:23.41 | mmiikkee12 | how about keeping me from upgrading at all? :) |
| 04:23.42 | abrotman | stealth_: now .. cat /proc/meminfo .. how much RAM ? |
| 04:23.51 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: install sarge |
| 04:23.52 | mmiikkee12 | (i may accidentally upgrade :S) |
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| 04:24.03 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman: no thanks... |
| 04:24.08 | stealth_ | 256 |
| 04:24.15 | abrotman | stealth_: is this your main computer? |
| 04:24.20 | stealth_ | yea |
| 04:24.31 | abrotman | stealth_: well . we'll hope this goes well |
| 04:24.40 | abrotman | stealth_: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
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| 04:25.01 | stealth_ | kernel patch? |
| 04:25.23 | abrotman | new kernel :) |
| 04:25.47 | abrotman | stealth_: are you in the audio group ? |
| 04:26.03 | stealth_ | audio group? |
| 04:26.14 | abrotman | stealth_: before you install that kernel |
| 04:26.19 | abrotman | stealth_: type `groups` .. what does it say? |
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| 04:26.39 | mmiikkee12 | dpkg: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area |
| 04:26.46 | mmiikkee12 | wtf does that mean... |
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| 04:27.01 | stealth_ | dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, video plugdev |
| 04:27.08 | abrotman | uhm .. ok |
| 04:27.34 | abrotman | stealth_: lspci .. what is your sound card? |
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| 04:28.47 | mmiikkee12 | time for the real test - running xfce |
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| 04:28.49 | stealth_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:28.59 | abrotman | stealth_: that's correct |
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| 04:29.09 | abrotman | creative bought that company |
| 04:29.15 | stealth_ | oh |
| 04:29.15 | abrotman | or something like that |
| 04:29.19 | stealth_ | heh :D |
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| 04:29.22 | IceTox | If I run a program starting it in terminal, how do I enable the terminal for further use without blowing of the program already started? |
| 04:29.32 | abrotman | stealth_: lsmod | grep 1371 .. return anything ? |
| 04:29.34 | McQuaid | hello i locked some files in synaptic, and now I'm having issues with synaptic starting and i suspect it's with some of the files i locked |
| 04:29.47 | McQuaid | how can i unlock these files without access to synaptic? |
| 04:29.50 | mmiikkee12 | w00t!!! |
| 04:29.53 | mmiikkee12 | it works!!! |
| 04:29.57 | McQuaid | is thee a file i can just safely delete? |
| 04:30.06 | dougiefresh | trying to run a teamspeak server inside a virtual server and I'm getting a runtime error, I've checked the forums, is there a debian package for teamspeak? |
| 04:30.12 | dougiefresh | even a non-free package? |
| 04:30.19 | stealth_ | yup, 4 lines |
| 04:30.48 | stealth_ | sumthin with es1371 on it too |
| 04:30.50 | ParoXsitiC | modprobe cannot locate a lot of modules, including ip_tables, or my NIC modules. however they are located in the correct folder, any suggestions? |
| 04:30.51 | abrotman | stealth_: anything that looks like ess1371 ? |
| 04:30.57 | stealth_ | yea |
| 04:31.05 | dogmeat | !seen bob2 |
| 04:31.06 | dpkg | bob2 <i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 93d 21h 25m 48s ago, saying: 'Mortal1: np, good luck'. |
| 04:31.14 | abrotman | stealth_: so .. have you tried aumix to raise volumes ? |
| 04:31.48 | stealth_ | whats aumix? |
| 04:31.52 | abrotman | a program :) |
| 04:32.14 | stealth_ | oh ok, umm, no, where is it? |
| 04:32.22 | abrotman | if it's not installed . install it |
| 04:32.24 | abrotman | !find aumix sarge |
| 04:32.33 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'aumix' (4 of 5): (/usr/lib/menu/aumix) in sound/aumix ;; (/usr/lib/menu/aumix-gtk) in sound/aumix-gtk ;; (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/aumix.mini.xpm) in x11/fvwm-icons ;; (/etc/init.d/aumix, /usr/bin/{aumix|xaumix}, /usr/share/pixmaps/icon_aumix.xpm) in sound/aumix,sound/aumix-gtk. |
| 04:33.43 | stealth_ | how do i get root? says im not in the sudoers file? |
| 04:34.28 | abrotman | stealth_: you don't konw the root password? |
| 04:34.44 | stealth_ | oh i know it, just wont give me root :/ |
| 04:35.03 | jetscreamer | su |
| 04:35.04 | IceTox | If I run a program starting it in terminal, how do I enable the terminal for further use without blowing of the program already started? |
| 04:35.08 | jetscreamer | !sudo |
| 04:35.08 | dpkg | i guess sudo is (SUperuser DO) better than su, according to talon.It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
| 04:35.09 | iMx | or sudo -s -H |
| 04:35.12 | ice_1963 | abrotman: are you useing fluxbox?.... |
| 04:35.14 | lsald | if you really want root to be enable you just 'sudo passwd root' |
| 04:35.21 | abrotman | ice_1963: i prefer blackbox |
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| 04:35.30 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 04:35.30 | stealth_ | thanks :))) |
| 04:35.36 | MAteo______ | Hello |
| 04:35.49 | lsald | stealth_, but you don't need to do that |
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| 04:36.28 | stealth_ | aumix is installed |
| 04:36.50 | stealth_ | looking at the controls in a terminal |
| 04:37.05 | abrotman | not much to look at :) |
| 04:37.05 | ParoXsitiC | Is there a way to completely reinstall debian but keep the data. like an XP repair install |
| 04:37.18 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: the goal is what? |
| 04:37.28 | ParoXsitiC | abortma: fix modprobe |
| 04:37.34 | abrotman | !reinstall |
| 04:37.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 04:37.38 | ParoXsitiC | abortman: without losing my hours of configuration |
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| 04:37.54 | abrotman | how did you break modprobe ? |
| 04:38.03 | ParoXsitiC | i didnt. it broke itself, go figure |
| 04:38.04 | MAteo______ | TOR is really efective???? |
| 04:38.09 | abrotman | it did ? |
| 04:38.15 | abrotman | MAteo______: no |
| 04:38.21 | ParoXsitiC | apparently so, today i turned on the comp and nothing would load VIA modprobe |
| 04:38.31 | priscila | ParoXsitiC: you can backup your /etc/ |
| 04:38.33 | MAteo______ | why? |
| 04:38.42 | abrotman | MAteo______: it's not truly anonymous |
| 04:38.58 | abrotman | none of those projects are .. theory good .. practice bad |
| 04:39.06 | abrotman | not bad .. but not as good as the theory :) |
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| 04:40.12 | MAteo______ | I have distrust with respect to TOR ... very bauty to be real |
| 04:40.33 | MAteo______ | beautiful* |
| 04:40.35 | stealth_ | thanks for the help but i gtg |
| 04:40.40 | stealth_ | bye all ?:) |
| 04:40.43 | abrotman | !es |
| 04:40.43 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 04:40.45 | stealth_ | uh, no ? |
| 04:40.46 | stealth_ | :P~~ |
| 04:40.48 | stealth_ | bye |
| 04:40.49 | abrotman | stealth_: ? |
| 04:40.51 | abrotman | ok |
| 04:40.54 | stealth_ | ;P~~ |
| 04:41.02 | abrotman | stealth_: you can try a 2.6 kernel tomorrow |
| 04:41.03 | abrotman | bah |
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| 04:41.22 | scx | ezQuiz 1: How do I add a directory to user's $PATH$ ??? |
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| 04:42.26 | mishael | export $PATH=$PATH:<dir> |
| 04:43.04 | scx | mishael: ok, thanks |
| 04:43.27 | abrotman | uhm |
| 04:43.34 | abrotman | export PATH=$PATH:<path> |
| 04:43.44 | abrotman | assuming bash |
| 04:44.10 | SimonRaven | assuming bash-like or sh-like shells |
| 04:44.11 | MAteo______ | abrotman: why? |
| 04:44.21 | SimonRaven | MAteo______: man bash |
| 04:44.23 | abrotman | why what? |
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| 04:44.33 | buu | Yaybash! |
| 04:44.38 | scx | surely |
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| 04:44.51 | MAteo______ | TOY 's not truly anonymous |
| 04:44.51 | mishael | thats right PATH=$PATH sorry |
| 04:45.33 | ice_1963 | :) |
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| 04:46.20 | abrotman | MAteo______: it is not |
| 04:46.27 | scx | it's just I want to add a /home/user/bin/ to the path |
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| 04:46.40 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:47.21 | kreg | how come "apt-get install gnome-desktop-enviornment" installs a bunch of pakages, but "apt-get remove gnome-desktop-enviornment" doesn't ? |
| 04:47.38 | dondelelcaro | kreg: because apt-get doesn't track automatically installed packages. |
| 04:47.40 | abrotman | it's a metapackage |
| 04:47.42 | dondelelcaro | kreg: use aptitude if you want that. |
| 04:47.47 | MAteo______ | mmm....i see |
| 04:47.54 | kreg | how do you remove the gnome paks and start over? |
| 04:48.02 | iMx | could wajig do it? |
| 04:48.12 | scx | why apt is faster than rpm ??? |
| 04:48.13 | kreg | ok i'll try aptitude |
| 04:48.14 | abrotman | !tell kreg about remove gnome |
| 04:48.22 | abrotman | kreg: you have to install that way too |
| 04:48.24 | scx | even with apt4rpm |
| 04:48.25 | dondelelcaro | kreg: you mark the packages it installed as automatically installed, and they'll be removed on their own. atlernatively, you use deborphan or similar. |
| 04:48.45 | kreg | ok |
| 04:48.58 | kreg | well i've just been having a hard time with etch. seems things are breaking on me compared to sarge |
| 04:49.03 | iMx | ah forgot about deborphan |
| 04:49.04 | dondelelcaro | scx: they're totally different; and more importantly, debs do not have file dependencies. |
| 04:49.06 | scx | apt-get install runs in 7 secs |
| 04:49.21 | scx | but rpm 1 min. |
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| 04:49.34 | scx | ??? |
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| 04:49.36 | scx | no deps |
| 04:49.38 | iMx | gentoo 2 days to build :p |
| 04:50.00 | ice_1963 | etch run's good for me .... |
| 04:50.10 | kreg | i'm still wating for dpkg to be able to do the equivilent of "rpm -qa" |
| 04:50.11 | kreg | er wait |
| 04:50.14 | kreg | rpm -V |
| 04:50.16 | iMx | dpkg -l |
| 04:50.16 | scx | I don understand, no deps??? |
| 04:50.23 | MAteo______ | abrotman: is freenet good option? |
| 04:50.30 | iMx | ;) |
| 04:50.34 | abrotman | MAteo______: ask them |
| 04:50.36 | kreg | >: D |
| 04:50.46 | iMx | wait no longer! |
| 04:51.09 | kreg | i meant rpm -V to verify any changes made to any files that belonged to the rpm pakage in question |
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| 04:51.19 | kreg | i don't know if dpkg can do that |
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| 04:51.51 | dondelelcaro | kreg: dpkg doesn't have a command that does that; there are additional commands that compare the md5sum list to the files instead though |
| 04:51.51 | abrotman | debsums |
| 04:52.29 | scx | I know they'r different but just wander why apt starts faster |
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| 04:52.39 | dondelelcaro | scx: rpms have multiple different types of dependencies; in any event, that's really RH's problem, not ours. |
| 04:52.48 | kreg | i love debian, but man it's so different to other distros |
| 04:52.56 | MAteo______ | ok thx to all |
| 04:53.00 | MAteo______ | bye |
| 04:53.12 | kreg | alot of the time it doesn't seem as organized |
| 04:53.16 | iMx | you reckon? |
| 04:53.25 | iMx | i disagree, and would say redhate is more so :) |
| 04:53.32 | iMx | never managed to really get on with it |
| 04:53.40 | scx | dondelelcaro: no muy claro |
| 04:54.02 | scx | debs has dependencies also |
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| 04:54.13 | dondelelcaro | scx: but not file dependencies. |
| 04:54.17 | scx | tar has deps |
| 04:54.20 | dondelelcaro | scx: they have package dependencies. |
| 04:54.25 | scx | any has deps |
| 04:54.32 | kreg | rpm is misunderstood. the main argument to rpm is "dependencies". but i don't think dpkg is any different. it's the front ends such as apt for dpkg or yum for rpm |
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| 04:54.55 | kreg | or depending on your distro, up2date, urpmi |
| 04:55.17 | scx | dondeclaro: ok,.. what u mean ? |
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| 04:55.37 | dondelelcaro | scx: I mean exactly what I said. You should really read about the difference between the packaging formats for starters. |
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| 04:55.51 | scx | ok I mean dpkg when tellin apt |
| 04:55.57 | scx | ur right |
| 04:56.05 | dondelelcaro | !ur |
| 04:56.06 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 04:56.16 | scx | debs precicelly |
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| 04:56.57 | scx | dondelelcaro: well I use Debian and SuSE mainly |
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| 04:57.45 | scx | dondelelcaro: I've been using them for few years, but I just don't understand what's that of files dependencies |
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| 04:58.26 | dondelelcaro | scx: ask #redhat; we don't have them. |
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| 04:58.57 | scx | ahhh,.. why should I ask redhat's ? |
| 04:59.09 | scx | I'm asking a Debian question |
| 04:59.12 | iMx | ummm im guessing the clue is in the name! dependant on a file! not a package! |
| 04:59.15 | abrotman | Debian doesn't use RPMs |
| 04:59.21 | scx | ,...a Debian doubt |
| 04:59.41 | scx | I didn't said that |
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| 04:59.59 | dondelelcaro | scx: if you're asking about file dependencies, we don't have them. #redhat is the place to ask. |
| 05:00.01 | nexus | anyone use fvwm95 |
| 05:00.05 | scx | I like that dpkg is faster |
| 05:00.29 | pollywog | I got Pythoncard installed by changing my sources.list to testing |
| 05:00.33 | scx | dondeclaro: it was u hu told me about that |
| 05:00.44 | scx | dondeclaro: :s |
| 05:01.08 | dondelelcaro | scx: it's "you"; and yes, I told you about it, because it's one of the reasons why it's faster. If you care about it in more detail, ask #redhat. |
| 05:01.17 | iMx | and now hes saying you need to ask somewhere else, so freaking drop it already :) |
| 05:01.29 | abrotman | and it's who .. no hu |
| 05:01.44 | pollywog | funny how the mention of other distros wakes up the sleepers |
| 05:01.47 | pollywog | ;) |
| 05:01.51 | abrotman | i wasn't sleeping! |
| 05:01.52 | brlancer | if I'm building a package from source, does my umask matter? shouldn't it be set by the build rules? |
| 05:01.53 | scx | :s |
| 05:01.54 | noiesmo | hey all anyone here running yosetime tapeware 7 |
| 05:01.55 | mishael | lol |
| 05:01.56 | abrotman | i was watching house :) |
| 05:01.58 | pollywog | no not you abrotman |
| 05:02.02 | scx | >:| |
| 05:02.26 | pollywog | yosetime? did you mean yosemite? |
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| 05:02.41 | noiesmo | oops sorry |
| 05:02.51 | noiesmo | yes yosemite |
| 05:03.42 | hejux | noiesmo--> hehe ,nice to see you here |
| 05:04.03 | dondelelcaro | brlancer: it shouldn't matter, so long as your umask is generous enough to allow creating things that are +x; everything else should be installed by setting the proper modes on the files anyway. |
| 05:04.18 | kreg | the problem i'm having with gnome is mthe my computer, home, and other icons blink between the image of them and a blank white document. |
| 05:04.24 | kreg | then they stop and just stay a white document |
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| 05:04.28 | noiesmo | hejux, nice to see you too but sorry not know who you are |
| 05:04.45 | pollywog | Courier insists on umask 0022 at least |
| 05:04.48 | mishael | use fluxbox instead |
| 05:05.06 | hejux | hhee |
| 05:05.09 | pollywog | I have noticed that if I compile with 0077 sometimes the files have wrong perms |
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| 05:05.31 | kreg | nah, i'll use gnome |
| 05:05.34 | kreg | but i'd like to fix it |
| 05:05.53 | brlancer | dondelelcaro: my shell uses 0027, and a file got built 0554 |
| 05:06.14 | smhar | I added a directory to the PATH variable in .bash_profile and exported it. when I log in from console it works but if I log into kde it is not there |
| 05:06.22 | brlancer | which doesn't seem like it should/could be my umask, but before I go yell at a developer doing stuff out of the kindness of his heart, I want to make sure I'm not the dumbass |
| 05:06.43 | pollywog | yeah it can't hurt to umask 0022 for the compile |
| 05:07.05 | abrotman | smhar: .bashrc ? |
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| 05:08.48 | dondelelcaro | brlancer: it should be built that way, but then installed with 0555 |
| 05:08.53 | smhar | abrotman, I read somewhere it should be in .bash_profile, maybe I am mistaken. I will try again with .bashrc |
| 05:09.03 | dondelelcaro | brlancer: building matters not. It's only the isntallation that matters. |
| 05:09.40 | abrotman | !tell smhar about .bashrc |
| 05:09.45 | abrotman | !tell smhar about bashrc |
| 05:10.01 | dondelelcaro | that being said, I'd definetly not be surprised to find makefiles that don't use install with a mode option to install files. |
| 05:10.32 | brlancer | dondelelcaro: ok, I get what you mean--I can prolly just send him a diff then. thanks |
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| 05:10.38 | smhar | thanks abrotman |
| 05:10.42 | mishael | !tell mishael about bashrc |
| 05:10.54 | pollywog | the difficulties I have had involved cvs, maybe that is why I had problems with my umask |
| 05:11.34 | dondelelcaro | brlancer: and the diff isn't setting the umask, btw... the diff is specifying the mode when the files are installed |
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| 05:17.33 | ParoXsitiC | Can anyone help me with a module/network problem |
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| 05:17.47 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: just ask |
| 05:18.17 | ParoXsitiC | I yesterday everything was fine, I did not mess with anything, today my linux PC will not detect my NIC cards, nor will modprobe seem to want to load any modules such as ip_tables |
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| 05:19.49 | pollywog | can you manually load the modules? |
| 05:19.53 | ParoXsitiC | no |
| 05:19.57 | pollywog | hmmm |
| 05:20.11 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: why not? |
| 05:20.17 | ParoXsitiC | I try to load a module and it will reply that it was not found, yet its located in /lib/modules/`uname -r` |
| 05:21.36 | ParoXsitiC | Is there a way I can reinstall modprobe or anything of that nature without the internet |
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| 05:21.54 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: did you try depmod -a ? |
| 05:22.16 | ParoXsitiC | ive tried depmod, but not -a. I had the impression -a was optional |
| 05:22.26 | abrotman | can't hurt? |
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| 05:22.44 | Supaplex | ParoXsitiC: what, you don't have a ethernet/firewire/usb/sata cable hanging out of your head? |
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| 05:23.07 | pollywog | like a Borg? |
| 05:23.16 | hejux | can anyone recommend me a channel to study english ? english as the second language ? |
| 05:24.03 | Supaplex | hejux: one moment... |
| 05:24.55 | Supaplex | hejux: maybe http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks_portal |
| 05:25.11 | ParoXsitiC | depmod -a did not help at all. I also tried delete modules.deb and rebooting, as I heard this is the same as running depmod and it also did not work |
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| 05:26.35 | ParoXsitiC | is modprobe a gloabl linux command or just debian |
| 05:26.43 | Supaplex | any linux |
| 05:27.10 | ParoXsitiC | Okay, do you recommend any linux channels that might have more users so I can request more support, an all-purpose linux channel maybe |
| 05:27.38 | abrotman | when you modprobe your module .. what is the FULL error ? |
| 05:27.57 | ParoXsitiC | Can't locate module <modulename> |
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| 05:28.07 | abrotman | wow .. what a horrible FULL error |
| 05:28.11 | abrotman | what's the command you type ? |
| 05:28.16 | ParoXsitiC | this holds true for the most basic modules like ip_tables or via-rhime |
| 05:28.19 | ParoXsitiC | rhine |
| 05:28.32 | ParoXsitiC | modprobe <modulename> |
| 05:28.41 | abrotman | WHAT IS THE COMMAND? |
| 05:28.46 | abrotman | exactly |
| 05:28.54 | ParoXsitiC | modprobe ip_tables |
| 05:29.00 | abrotman | or via-rhine ? |
| 05:29.03 | ParoXsitiC | yeah |
| 05:29.07 | abrotman | uname -a |
| 05:29.10 | abrotman | erm .. -r |
| 05:29.27 | ParoXsitiC | or iptables_nat |
| 05:29.41 | ParoXsitiC | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 05:30.00 | ParoXsitiC | and the modules are located in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386 |
| 05:30.46 | abrotman | cd /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/ .. do you have via-rhine.o ? |
| 05:30.53 | ParoXsitiC | yeah |
| 05:31.32 | ParoXsitiC | if i force it with insmod it will try to run it, but quit because of various things, probably because of dependcies that modprobe handles |
| 05:31.51 | nicolas__ | seems like someone changed your kernel without noticing you |
| 05:32.01 | nicolas__ | joke |
| 05:32.04 | ParoXsitiC | only 3 folders of drivers gets picked up in modules.deb for whatever reason, ive tried manually adding driver/net via-rhino.o to modules.deb but that came out with more errors |
| 05:32.15 | Stevie | nicolas__: kexec :D |
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| 05:32.26 | pollywog | ParoXsitiC: when did you last reboot? |
| 05:32.31 | ParoXsitiC | 8PM tonight |
| 05:32.38 | ParoXsitiC | 5 hours ago |
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| 05:32.44 | pollywog | could something have changed before that reboot? |
| 05:32.45 | ParoXsitiC | actually 4. |
| 05:33.10 | ParoXsitiC | Nothing has changed since the last reboot, and nothing has changed since a month after the install. I dont change things. its been this way for 4 months |
| 05:33.23 | ParoXsitiC | I only run the server 24/7 as a server..and only work in bash |
| 05:33.25 | nicolas__ | Stevie: hrm, thats a weird app, never heard about that before |
| 05:33.30 | ParoXsitiC | its headless as well |
| 05:34.07 | ParoXsitiC | Note: (been this way for 4 months, meaning this configuration thats giving the error. It was working fine until now) |
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| 05:34.27 | Stevie | nicolas__: i happened to see it in the kernel config the other day |
| 05:34.45 | pollywog | when I had errors like that I just reinstalled the module debs and rebooted |
| 05:34.57 | ParoXsitiC | I have around 200 people relying on a service i provide VIA linux, so if I cannot find a solution quickly ill just format and reinstall, then take hours to set it back up how i had it |
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| 05:35.10 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: you have no intarweb at all ? |
| 05:35.12 | nicolas__ | Stevie: those "highest uptime gambler" will have their game spiced-up |
| 05:35.20 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: on that machine i mean |
| 05:35.26 | Stevie | nicolas__: haha |
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| 05:35.46 | ParoXsitiC | no abrotman |
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| 05:35.56 | unix_infidel | man i need to get out of this house.... |
| 05:36.07 | ParoXsitiC | abrotman: I can not access the internet because the NIC's do not load...because it wont load modules |
| 05:36.09 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: so .. you can load modules at boottime .. but not after / is mounted ? |
| 05:36.29 | ParoXsitiC | abrotman: I believe that is correct, i have maybe 5 modules running |
| 05:36.36 | abrotman | what are they? |
| 05:36.42 | ParoXsitiC | 3 deal with IDE, one is unix |
| 05:37.17 | pollywog | ParoXsitiC: did you run dmesg? |
| 05:37.29 | ParoXsitiC | Yes: I found nothing related to such |
| 05:37.33 | pollywog | k |
| 05:37.49 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: can you create files on / ? |
| 05:37.51 | ParoXsitiC | Ive also scanned syslog basing on time and found nothing |
| 05:38.06 | ParoXsitiC | abrotman: I would beieve so, i have not tried it directly |
| 05:38.14 | abrotman | might be nice to try :) |
| 05:38.34 | ParoXsitiC | Its kind of hard of for me to switch from windows to linux, because as i said the linux is headless so i have to unplug a the monitor keyboard and switch back and forth, but I will try now |
| 05:38.54 | pollywog | headless? |
| 05:38.55 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: i just wonder if it got mounted ro |
| 05:39.02 | abrotman | pollywog: no monitor |
| 05:39.03 | pollywog | you mean no monitor? |
| 05:39.05 | pollywog | k |
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| 05:40.00 | |valinux|xbm-x| | hello anyone here? |
| 05:40.03 | iMx | no |
| 05:40.07 | ParoXsitiC | Back: Yes I can create files on / |
| 05:40.08 | iMx | :) |
| 05:40.17 | caffei | ParoXsitiC, never heard of VNC, I take it? :) |
| 05:40.35 | |valinux|xbm-x| | i'm trying to creat a partition for linux can someone help me please |
| 05:40.40 | ParoXsitiC | caffei: I cannot connect to linux because the NIC's wont accept the connect, because no modules load |
| 05:40.45 | ParoXsitiC | normally I use putty |
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| 05:41.42 | |valinux|xbm-x| | can someone help me creat a patition for linux please... |
| 05:41.47 | kyncani | |valinux|xbm-x|: from linux ? |
| 05:42.04 | |valinux|xbm-x| | from windows |
| 05:42.19 | nicolas__ | |valinux|xbm-x|: impossible |
| 05:42.23 | karsten | |valinux|xbm-x|: Um. Probalby partition magic then. |
| 05:42.27 | nicolas__ | you can create freespace |
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| 05:42.40 | kyncani | |valinux|xbm-x|: well, from linux (you can download knoppix), there is qtparted |
| 05:42.42 | |valinux|xbm-x| | its open partition magic all i need is creat it |
| 05:42.43 | karsten | |valinux|xbm-x|: Windows doesn't do partitioning very well. You're best off IMO with Knoppix and qtparted. |
| 05:42.56 | ParoXsitiC | well via-rhine is somehting that someone on here suggest one of my NIC card used. I am unsure of the actually modules because they use to load automatically and I never had to configure or compile. I have a 3com 905c - TX/TX-M and D-Link DFE-530-TX+ |
| 05:43.04 | nicolas__ | |valinux|xbm-x|: why ? |
| 05:43.10 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: what CPU is in the machine ? |
| 05:43.20 | ParoXsitiC | AMD Duron 700 |
| 05:43.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: i can't upload, remember? |
| 05:43.26 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:43.26 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:43.26 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: how much RAM> |
| 05:43.30 | abrotman | tarzeau: i know |
| 05:43.32 | ParoXsitiC | 256Mb |
| 05:43.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: isn't it like 5am there? |
| 05:43.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm going into the snow now! www.flumserberg.ch |
| 05:43.45 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: you have CDRW in windows and CDROM in linux ? |
| 05:43.51 | tarzeau | abrotman: with some nice chicks , hehe :) |
| 05:43.56 | ParoXsitiC | abortman: yeah |
| 05:43.58 | abrotman | have fun |
| 05:44.01 | |valinux|xbm-x| | i have PartitionMagic open all i need to do is creat a partition for linux can someone help me please... |
| 05:44.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: you bet, i will |
| 05:44.19 | karsten | |valinux|xbm-x|: RTFM. |
| 05:44.30 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 05:44.40 | karsten | lilo: Ssh! He's upset enough as it is. |
| 05:44.42 | |valinux|xbm-x| | windows is geting on my nerves |
| 05:44.45 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: grab that package . and all the ones in RED on that page .. then burn them to a CD . install them in linux |
| 05:44.47 | ParoXsitiC | abortman: I never directly used the CDROM in linux, I am sure if it even works, do they usally automatically work? |
| 05:44.51 | abrotman | karsten: HOT GIRL? |
| 05:44.56 | lilo | karsten: erm, okay 8) |
| 05:44.57 | karsten | lilo: .. Says "VA Linux Systems" here. |
| 05:44.59 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: it should |
| 05:45.09 | karsten | abrotman: Um. Sure. |
| 05:45.13 | lilo | karsten: hmmm....they changed the name |
| 05:45.18 | abrotman | they did |
| 05:45.18 | |valinux|xbm-x| | what is swap???? |
| 05:45.22 | abrotman | the hardware got sold off |
| 05:45.24 | pollywog | VA Linux? are they still around? |
| 05:45.26 | karsten | lilo: SAY IT AIN'T SO! |
| 05:45.26 | lilo | karsten: VA Linux Systems is name-1 |
| 05:45.30 | ParoXsitiC | abrotman: would it be best to upgrade to image 2.6.8.2-k7 as you stated or to get the current image 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 05:45.34 | abrotman | a company in cali bought them |
| 05:45.40 | lilo | karsten: VA Research -> VA Linux Systems -> VA Software |
| 05:45.49 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: you could get 2.4.27-2-386 and do a reinstall i guess |
| 05:45.51 | karsten | lilo: I. Know. |
| 05:45.51 | |valinux|xbm-x| | what is swap?? |
| 05:45.52 | ParoXsitiC | will there be conflicts from going from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 05:45.53 | lilo | karsten: I was surprised they didn't make it OSDN, Inc. next, but then they got rid of OSDN |
| 05:46.01 | lilo | karsten: called it something less community-oriented |
| 05:46.04 | karsten | |valinux|xbm-x|: Useful. |
| 05:46.29 | lilo | OSTG |
| 05:46.29 | |valinux|xbm-x| | linux sawp ext2 ext3 omfg i'm lost |
| 05:46.31 | lilo | that's it |
| 05:46.37 | hejux | it seems linux makes irc pop again |
| 05:46.37 | lilo | anyway, it's life, things change |
| 05:46.39 | karsten | lilo: A friend seems to be rooting for something like "Proprietary Software Supported By Community Advertising, Inc." |
| 05:46.48 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 05:46.49 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: that's why you can use a cd .. burn the packages you need |
| 05:46.55 | lilo | hehe karsten, now *who* is being mean?? 8) |
| 05:47.01 | karsten | |valinux|xbm-x|: Whatever you're trying to do I'd suggest you read a manual. Installing Debian are you? |
| 05:47.02 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: or just reinstall thekernel you have |
| 05:47.10 | karsten | lilo: Truth hurts? |
| 05:47.13 | lilo | karsten: there's still a valinux in japan I think |
| 05:47.19 | |valinux|xbm-x| | i'm trying to install freeBSD!!!!!!!! |
| 05:47.20 | Azar | |valinux|xbm-x|: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/ |
| 05:47.21 | lilo | karsten: but this doesn't look like it |
| 05:47.23 | karsten | lilo: There is. Fully independent from what I understand. |
| 05:47.31 | karsten | !freebestsd |
| 05:47.32 | lilo | karsten: yeah....not sure whether they started out that way |
| 05:47.38 | karsten | !not debian |
| 05:47.38 | dpkg | Knoppix isn't, Ubuntu isn't, Libranet isn't, Morphix isn't, lnx-bbc isn't, *your* installation you have right now ISN'T.... see if there is a channel available relevant to your distribution, if not, tough. Your questions do not belong here! |
| 05:47.45 | kyncani | |valinux|xbm-x|: for a first linux install, you may be better off with ubuntu. I think it should handle everything, including the partitioning thing |
| 05:47.50 | karsten | |valinux|xbm-x|: Suggest you /join #freebsd. |
| 05:48.04 | Azar | |valinux|xbm-x|: this is debian, it is not same as BSD, is not even linux! |
| 05:48.08 | karsten | |valinux|xbm-x|: ... and what kyncani said. Ubuntu or Kubuntu are going to be more your style. |
| 05:48.09 | ParoXsitiC | abrotman: I am pretty new to linux, and im unsure what I need. What do you recommend I burn and put on a CD, and once the CD is in linux how do I access it and install them |
| 05:48.34 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: you could mount the CD .. shit .. i bet you won't be able to load the modules .. fuck |
| 05:48.35 | lilo | otoh, maybe it's a time-of-day thing |
| 05:48.36 | kookaburra | swap is the space your computers uses to temporarily stash files when when memory runs out, hence it 'swaps' out files in memory to the hard drive and then back into memory when there is free memory again. sort of. not the best definition but close |
| 05:48.37 | karsten | lilo: We're happy to help people who 1) are looking for Debian support and 2) exhibit some signs of higher brain function. |
| 05:48.42 | Azar | ParoXsitiC: once linux is on the CD |
| 05:48.43 | karsten | !friday |
| 05:48.43 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, friday is Tardsday Eve Eve |
| 05:48.48 | lilo | karsten: that (2) is very elitist |
| 05:48.50 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: can you load ide-cd ? |
| 05:49.06 | karsten | lilo: I've got nothing against elitism. I do tend to point poeple to where I think is appropriate. |
| 05:49.10 | ParoXsitiC | modprobe ide-cd ? |
| 05:49.11 | lilo | karsten: I have no arguments with you if you choose not to see that as a problem; I wouldn't even have tried to comment on it three or four years ago ;) |
| 05:49.12 | ParoXsitiC | ill test it now |
| 05:49.22 | abrotman | or see if it's already loaded |
| 05:49.28 | ParoXsitiC | right, lsmod |
| 05:49.29 | lilo | but I'm not a big fan of elitism |
| 05:49.30 | ParoXsitiC | brb |
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| 05:49.34 | Azar | karsten: breaking up with mswin is not easy... |
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| 05:50.09 | Gnea | lilo: heh. |
| 05:50.12 | pollywog | she might trash your car? |
| 05:50.20 | abrotman | lilo: dunno .. that was pretty friendly :) |
| 05:50.28 | karsten | lilo: /msg dpkg clues for the clueful. |
| 05:50.34 | abrotman | and mentor only banned me accidentally! |
| 05:50.40 | abrotman | so he says anyways |
| 05:50.41 | Azar | it is all about will... if someone really want to move over from mswin, will is the keyword |
| 05:50.47 | lilo | abrotman: yah, it can always be worse |
| 05:50.52 | konfuzed | uhm what rates as higher brain function ?!? |
| 05:51.01 | Gnea | lilo: how about hypocracy? and i mean that with heavy sarcasm. :) |
| 05:51.01 | karsten | lilo: elitism has its place. I think of it as recognizing ability. |
| 05:51.04 | ParoXsitiC | there are 3 IDE's in lsmod: ide-detect, ide-disk, ide-core. Upon trying to run 'modprobe ide-cd' it replies with 'Can't find module ide-cd' |
| 05:51.32 | karsten | lilo: We do have the problem in #debian of people coming here with unrelated issues "because the smart/friendly people are here". |
| 05:51.42 | abrotman | lilo: (2) isn't elitist .. it's the idea that someone is willing to do a little legwork on thier own .. you know .. the "Fish for a day" thing |
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| 05:52.03 | karsten | konfuzed: Generally: being able to generate and follow rational conversation. |
| 05:52.04 | leaveone | why is linux so hard? |
| 05:52.06 | VulpesFoxnik | os[Linux 2.6.15-1-k7 i686] distro[Debian testing/unstable] cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ @ 1.67GHz] mem[Physical : 1012MB, 67.0% free] disk[Total : 428.45GB, 77.30% Free] video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]] sound[Audigy - Audigy 1 [SB0090]] |
| 05:52.10 | abrotman | lilo: unless i misunderstood karsten |
| 05:52.11 | kookaburra | honestly, what is so hard about switching over from windows? If I can do it can't be. |
| 05:52.20 | karsten | leaveone: Viagra spam. |
| 05:52.20 | abrotman | VulpesFoxnik: please don't do that ever again |
| 05:52.25 | kookaburra | small steps is the key. and a willingness to learn |
| 05:52.27 | konfuzed | rational confuses me |
| 05:52.29 | Azar | leaveone: because mswin got viruses in people's minds |
| 05:52.31 | VulpesFoxnik | I didn't mean to |
| 05:53.00 | karsten | leaveone: What in particular are you finding hard about it? |
| 05:53.00 | leaveone | ive been using redhat and fedora core for a while.. so i wanted to try debian but i can hardly get it to do anything |
| 05:53.13 | abrotman | leaveone: that's kind of vague :) |
| 05:53.20 | Supaplex | !don't work |
| 05:53.20 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 05:53.26 | karsten | leaveone: As was suggested earlier: Ubuntu / Kubuntu might be a gentler introduction to Debian. |
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| 05:53.49 | nicolas__ | of course |
| 05:53.51 | leaveone | well.. heres a small list.. i seem to be stuck in gnome.. i prefer kde.. |
| 05:53.52 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: not debian is <reply> see based on debian |
| 05:53.52 | dpkg | ...but not debian is already something else... |
| 05:53.57 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: no, not debian is <reply> see based on debian |
| 05:53.57 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: okay |
| 05:54.06 | Gnea | leaveone: it's a completely different way of doing things - at the basic level, it's the same (kernel and commands) but in many other ways, the learning curve has a tendancy to cause whiplash at times |
| 05:54.11 | abrotman | leaveone: install kde and kdm |
| 05:54.20 | leaveone | i cant get my nvidia drivers to install so my display is 800x600 which is unbearable |
| 05:54.21 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: no, debian based is <reply> see based on debian |
| 05:54.22 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: okay |
| 05:54.22 | Gnea | !ubuntu |
| 05:54.22 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 05:54.28 | lilo | leaveone: go with kubuntu |
| 05:54.32 | pollywog | ubuntu? but then you will be sent to #ubuntu |
| 05:54.46 | karsten | lilo: With you there. I've been running it under VMWare at work. Var nahse. |
| 05:54.46 | lilo | leaveone: should work well for you....they're working on a new release, I think in a month and a half or so |
| 05:54.55 | Azar | leaveone: in my opinion mswin have killed the will and ability of most people of reading, learning new things, with that "leave it on us, we do it all for you" that why most find any other OS that requires a bit of reading, learning and experimenting hard. mswin was never ment to educate people. |
| 05:55.07 | lilo | you know....I like simple things |
| 05:55.11 | lilo | windows isn't simple |
| 05:55.15 | lilo | the registry isn't simple |
| 05:55.20 | lilo | knowing what broke isn't simple |
| 05:55.20 | Gnea | lilo: see, that's an OKAY response, but that's also assuming too much based upon so little |
| 05:55.21 | dondelelcaro | windows is rather OT here... |
| 05:55.30 | leaveone | haha i have a degree in cs.. im not an idiot or anything.. its just much different from redhat |
| 05:55.34 | lilo | Gnea: I have no idea what you mean :) |
| 05:55.34 | ice_1963 | installing nvidia is so easy |
| 05:55.39 | dondelelcaro | leaveone: alternatively, you could ask a question and we could help you. There are also a reasonable collection of books about Debian, too. |
| 05:55.39 | lilo | leaveone: yup....you'll get there |
| 05:55.41 | nicolas__ | it seems we need skills to trigger dpkg factoids |
| 05:55.41 | Gnea | lilo: i know :) |
| 05:55.54 | dondelelcaro | leaveone: see Martin Kraft's _The Debian System_, FE. |
| 05:55.56 | kookaburra | learning how to configure x will help you tremendously when it comes to video issues. |
| 05:55.57 | lilo | Gnea: and if 'incomprehensible' is okay with you, it's okay with me ;) |
| 05:55.58 | pollywog | I used module assistant to install nvidia and it was very easy |
| 05:56.00 | Azar | .. and a lot of manuals online |
| 05:56.14 | lilo | yup, Debian's good |
| 05:56.15 | Gnea | leaveone: based-on-debian distros are cool if you don't mind it being easy to use, however.... |
| 05:56.18 | kookaburra | fedora shields you from configuring x |
| 05:56.20 | Gnea | !tell leaveone about newbie_guide |
| 05:56.24 | lilo | it's all in what time you have |
| 05:56.38 | Supaplex | how is $someotherdistro going to address leaveone's nvidia issue anyway? didn't he ask for debian help? It's been ages since I had to do that piticular thing. |
| 05:56.44 | lilo | I don't find Debian difficult to use |
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| 05:56.55 | lilo | but if I did, i wouldn't find that to be a plus |
| 05:56.55 | ParoXsitiC | !tell paroxsitic about newbie_guide |
| 05:56.59 | pollywog | it's just tedious to install Debian |
| 05:57.05 | Supaplex | there are a few rough spots, but imo it's worth it. |
| 05:57.10 | kookaburra | why is it tedious? |
| 05:57.14 | nicolas__ | piticular :P |
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| 05:57.21 | kookaburra | what in particular is tedious? |
| 05:57.23 | Gnea | lilo: but other people do. and we want to be friendly about it at the same time. |
| 05:57.30 | leaveone | ok first problem.. i have kde installed but i cant seem to access it.. like in fedora core there was a switchdesk command to move from gnome to kde or whatever else |
| 05:57.36 | kookaburra | I hear that all the time but what does it mean? |
| 05:57.40 | pollywog | for me the tedious part was having to work out dependencies |
| 05:57.43 | Gnea | kookaburra: that's like asking: why does puberty suck? :) |
| 05:57.45 | Azar | pollywog: at first yes, but after say... 10 installs it gets really easy: because you already learned about it |
| 05:58.07 | Azar | pollywog: with Debian you do not need to work with dependencies.. apt does it for you |
| 05:58.14 | pollywog | I have been using Debian for several years and it is still tedious |
| 05:58.20 | VulpesFoxnik | leaveone: what *dm are you using? |
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| 05:58.26 | pollywog | apt did not do it for me this time |
| 05:58.28 | konfuzed | is there a list some where of known nvidia issues |
| 05:58.33 | ParoXsitiC | Is it possible to access the CDROM even if you cant load the IDE-CD module? |
| 05:58.35 | Azar | pollywog: bah, maybe you are still using Potato ? |
| 05:58.41 | pollywog | I had to change my sources.list to testing |
| 05:58.48 | pollywog | from sarge to testing |
| 05:58.49 | Supaplex | Azar: hamm ;) |
| 05:58.55 | pollywog | now I am pleased |
| 05:59.05 | Azar | Supaplex: cheese too :) |
| 05:59.16 | pollywog | I used potato a few years ago |
| 05:59.16 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 05:59.17 | leaveone | well thats another problem.. i was trying to install nvidia drivers so i ran the update-rc.d -f gdm remove command and now i cant get back to graphical login where i could pick kde |
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| 05:59.26 | karsten | lilo: I'm *really* impressed by Konqueror as a browser these days. Cutting over from Galeon / Firefox. |
| 05:59.33 | Gnea | ParoXsitiC: why can't you load the module? |
| 05:59.38 | kookaburra | there should be a choice at the gdm screen to change your desktop to kde |
| 05:59.51 | nicolas__ | pollywog: i suggest you should have stayed with sarge, i tried etch, but i had packages broken and really mysterious bug about ssh clients crashing the whole server |
| 05:59.55 | leaveone | yeah there is.. but i cant get to that screen anymore |
| 05:59.56 | ParoXsitiC | Gnea: because modprobe wont locate any modules |
| 06:00.01 | kookaburra | then it will ask you if that will be the new default desktop. just say yes. |
| 06:00.16 | VulpesFoxnik | dpgk-reconfigure gdm |
| 06:00.16 | kookaburra | just log out |
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| 06:00.18 | leaveone | it goes to command line login.. when i startx it goes straight to gnome.. |
| 06:00.31 | Gnea | ParoXsitiC: are you sure it's not built into the kernel itself? can you find any instance of the cdrom driver with the dmesg command? |
| 06:00.37 | leaveone | i dont get a graphical login anymore |
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| 06:01.00 | VulpesFoxnik | You need to reconfigure your GDM |
| 06:01.01 | pollywog | I was unable to install some packages in sarge |
| 06:01.04 | Gnea | leaveone: certain packages need to be setup for that |
| 06:01.15 | kookaburra | what did you change to get that funky setup? |
| 06:01.17 | nicolas__ | pollywog: like what? |
| 06:01.24 | pollywog | never had that problem before and even used sarge packages on Xandros |
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| 06:01.26 | Gnea | leaveone: apt-get intall gdm gdm-themes works for me just fine |
| 06:01.26 | Azar | pollywog: do you know what a "frozen" distro is? |
| 06:01.31 | nicolas__ | my sarge is sooo unbreakable |
| 06:01.33 | nicolas__ | :P |
| 06:01.40 | ParoXsitiC | I believe I am giving up on the error, and I am just goign to format and reinstall debian. Thanks all who helped me |
| 06:01.54 | pollywog | I could not install openoffice 2 or pythoncard |
| 06:01.57 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: reinstall the kernel |
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| 06:02.07 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: i have no internet or CD |
| 06:02.07 | konfuzed | leaveone, really do the dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 06:02.11 | konfuzed | you will be amazed |
| 06:02.12 | Azar | pollywog: can you answer my question? |
| 06:02.18 | pollywog | which one? |
| 06:02.18 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: boot the cd in rescue mode |
| 06:02.19 | Gnea | pollywog: using packages from one distro on another is highly discouraged - just because it uses the same package management system doesn't mean that it's guaranteed not to break anything |
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| 06:02.24 | kookaburra | that's what I am playing with. configuring a kernel from source "the debian way". pretty fun |
| 06:02.28 | ice_1963 | i jest --purge remove gdm or kdm or xdm |
| 06:02.29 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: that's because neither of those were released when sarge was. |
| 06:02.35 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: donc you have another kernel in menu.lst? |
| 06:02.37 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.37 | pollywog | I had a pure sarge system |
| 06:02.42 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.43 | dondelelcaro | pollywog: you could get backports of them, or you can upgrade to testing. |
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| 06:02.49 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:02.54 | dondelelcaro | Azar: please stop pestering people. |
| 06:02.55 | pollywog | Azar: no I forgot |
| 06:02.55 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: what is menu.1st, and I dont have the orig. CD i installed with |
| 06:02.58 | leaveone | i cant keep up with all this.. can someone message me and talk? |
| 06:03.15 | konfuzed | leaveone, really do the dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 06:03.16 | pollywog | I upgraded the required packages to testing |
| 06:03.17 | konfuzed | you will be amazed |
| 06:03.22 | Gnea | leaveone: do you not have nick highlighting? |
| 06:03.28 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: menu.lst is the menu list of grub the boot manager |
| 06:03.44 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: yeah I have a recovery mode or something of that sort |
| 06:03.48 | leaveone | no i guess not |
| 06:03.54 | konfuzed | leaveone, really do the dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 06:04.16 | leaveone | do i need to log out of X to do that? |
| 06:04.28 | dondelelcaro | leaveone: no |
| 06:04.29 | Gnea | nah |
| 06:04.29 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: hrm, take a look in /var/apt/cache/archive or something to see if the kernel-image isnt still there? |
| 06:04.33 | kookaburra | you do that from a terminal |
| 06:04.37 | leaveone | ok hold on |
| 06:04.53 | konfuzed | i would recommend ctrl-alt 3 to login again though |
| 06:05.16 | konfuzed | hhmmm someone took my advice again, imagine that |
| 06:05.24 | konfuzed | oh yeah it was somebody elses advice first |
| 06:05.28 | konfuzed | all is normal again |
| 06:05.31 | Supaplex | heh |
| 06:06.17 | leaveone | i could a "command not found" error |
| 06:06.29 | dondelelcaro | leaveone: you're doing that as root, right? |
| 06:06.34 | leaveone | i meant.. i received.. sorry its late |
| 06:06.44 | leaveone | oh no.. oops hold on.. again |
| 06:06.54 | kookaburra | are there any great advantages besides learning about debian to compiling a custom kernel? I don't know if I will be able to pull it off. |
| 06:07.04 | konfuzed | i thought he took a computer science course |
| 06:07.06 | konfuzed | ;^) |
| 06:07.14 | kookaburra | I don't know enough about the hardware in this corny emachine |
| 06:07.23 | konfuzed | emachine |
| 06:07.26 | konfuzed | neat boxes |
| 06:07.45 | konfuzed | i had to reinstall an emachine that literally looks liek an imac |
| 06:08.02 | kookaburra | it's cheap and works pretty good. |
| 06:08.03 | leaveone | ok that looks like it worked.. but i have to logout out of X for it to take effect |
| 06:08.05 | dondelelcaro | kookaburra: you shouldn't need to do that at all... |
| 06:08.25 | konfuzed | well it is part of the point isnt it |
| 06:08.30 | konfuzed | to go from gnome to kde |
| 06:08.33 | kookaburra | no, I don't need a new kernel. just wanting to figure it out. |
| 06:08.33 | leaveone | but while ive got some.. about nvidia drivers.. |
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| 06:09.09 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: the kernel-image is not in cache apt archives |
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| 06:09.30 | leaveone | it says that i need the kernel source.. so i installed those from the dvd.. and then i get another error about nvidia.ko module couldnt load.. and the installation aborts |
| 06:09.47 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: use the rescue mode of the cd |
| 06:09.56 | kookaburra | kinda how i learn. I break it messing around, find out why it broke, then fix it. then figure out what I did that *really* fixed it. |
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| 06:10.15 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: I dont have the cd, and even if i did, i cant load CD modules to my knowledge |
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| 06:10.31 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: boot the cd |
| 06:10.35 | nicolas__ | if you had one |
| 06:11.04 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: I also downloaded the net-version of the CD too, so it downloaded while it installed, i dont believe that was has a rescue option |
| 06:11.18 | ParoXsitiC | but i can download and burn a CD. just help me pick which one to choose |
| 06:11.32 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: there is always a rescue mode i think |
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| 06:11.59 | konfuzed | oh i forgot, i played a dvd with xine, then stopped it and deleted it off the paylist and then dragged 4 mp3s and a directory with 3 more tunes into the play list and then xine crashed. now there is no audio when I play anything. |
| 06:12.17 | konfuzed | xine is fully killed already |
| 06:12.21 | leaveone | konfuzed: can you message me? |
| 06:12.26 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: i suggest you build the sarge disc 1 image with jigdo which is available for windows |
| 06:12.41 | nicolas__ | !jigdo |
| 06:12.41 | dpkg | methinks jigdo is *the* method for downloading CD/DVD images of Debian. at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ or http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/index.html |
| 06:12.58 | konfuzed | leaveone, my advice about dpkg-reconfigure gdm is the only thing I know about that command |
| 06:13.09 | konfuzed | i am unable to resolve any errors with it |
| 06:13.13 | leaveone | ok yeah that one worked.. |
| 06:13.20 | leaveone | can you help with nvidia drivers too? |
| 06:13.25 | kookaburra | what is so hot about jigdo? seriously. never used it. |
| 06:13.28 | konfuzed | my sound died and I dont even know what to look for to get it started again |
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| 06:13.40 | dondelelcaro | kookaburra: the advantage of it is that we don't have to have as many files on the mirrors |
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| 06:13.57 | dondelelcaro | kookaburra: we can just distribute the packages like we always do, and you can grab them from any local debian mirror |
| 06:13.58 | ParoXsitiC | i burn all of this http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/jigdo-cd/ on the cd? all the files? |
| 06:14.04 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: then instead of reinstalling, boot in rescue mode, get that kernel-image-2.6 package then reboot normally and install it |
| 06:14.14 | konfuzed | leaveone, i havent really messed with the nvidia drivers just yet so unfortunately not |
| 06:14.20 | ParoXsitiC | Well not those files, but i download them with jigdo and burn them |
| 06:14.22 | dondelelcaro | ParoXsitiC: you just get the .template and the .jigdo, run jigdo-file on it, and buidl teh full up iso. |
| 06:14.27 | kookaburra | cool. |
| 06:14.28 | dondelelcaro | ParoXsitiC: then burn it, yes. |
| 06:14.47 | leaveone | does anyone know how to install nvidia drivers? |
| 06:15.07 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: no, you have to download a file named *sarge*disc*1* or something, then another one templates/*sargedisc1* |
| 06:15.08 | konfuzed | leaveone, actually I hate messing with windows of all kinds x-windows or any body elses |
| 06:15.25 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: then run jigdo and itll build an iso of cd 1 |
| 06:15.27 | konfuzed | !nvidia |
| 06:15.27 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 06:16.32 | leaveone | dpkg: where do i get the "nvidia-graphics-drivers" |
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| 06:16.38 | kookaburra | nvidia should just release their driver. I blame nvidia for all everyones pain. |
| 06:16.45 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: i suggest you try just to apt-get the kernel image 2.6 before to see if you meet all the dependencies, if not, youll know which supplementary packages to get from the dc |
| 06:16.49 | konfuzed | can any one point me in the direction to restart sound after xine crashed |
| 06:16.50 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: so i run jigdo-lite.bat it will ask for a URL, how do i give it the URL if that folder has 20 files, i guess my question, do I download all the jingo files or just 1 |
| 06:16.59 | kookaburra | *not* any particular distribution. |
| 06:17.09 | dondelelcaro | konfuzed: you shouldn't need to restart sound; just make sure xine is stopped. |
| 06:17.21 | konfuzed | ps auxw|grep xine shows nothing |
| 06:17.28 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: i suggest you take 2 minutes to read the few documentary lines included |
| 06:17.31 | konfuzed | and still n sound |
| 06:17.32 | dondelelcaro | kookaburra: you can just use the nv driver; it works for most things. |
| 06:17.41 | dondelelcaro | konfuzed: are the levels down? |
| 06:17.48 | konfuzed | i think it choked on something with the sound system |
| 06:17.57 | konfuzed | no mutes all levels up |
| 06:18.12 | dondelelcaro | konfuzed: what happens when you cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp? |
| 06:18.15 | kookaburra | I don't even have an nvidia card. but I must see at least ten posts everyday somewhere about it. |
| 06:18.48 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: one jidgo file, one template |
| 06:18.51 | konfuzed | crazy man that was wild static |
| 06:18.54 | leaveone | they are a nightmare |
| 06:18.55 | chealer | !tell leaveone about nvidia-graphics-drivers |
| 06:18.56 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: unless you want the whole 12 cd set |
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| 06:19.28 | dondelelcaro | konfuzed: then your sound is working. |
| 06:20.32 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: i used apt-get kernel-image-2.6 and it didnt really say i met or didnt meet any dependencies |
| 06:20.41 | kookaburra | I remember my first 486 packard bell with windows 3.11 - now that sheesh was a nightmare. |
| 06:21.04 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: i just want modprobe to work. |
| 06:21.14 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: of course, if you didnt met all the deps, it would have said "ill install some more packages, oh oh oh" |
| 06:21.37 | ParoXsitiC | i dont want to download jingo to fetch 12 CDs to upgrade to a diff kernel which might result more errors. I just want it to work like it did yesterday |
| 06:21.40 | konfuzed | ok after the xine crash, ive tried to play this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_lezEvy9T8&search=screwed from firefox and there is no audio, even now that xine works again |
| 06:21.55 | leaveone | ok.. i can run the nvidia installer but when i do i get an error about nvidia.ko module cant be loaded and the installation aborts.. any ideas? |
| 06:22.03 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: what have you done yesterday? |
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| 06:22.12 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: nothing. thats why im upsety |
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| 06:22.25 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: if you dont want to try changing kernel |
| 06:22.34 | nicolas__ | you still need to get that cd |
| 06:22.38 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: when i rebooted today it magically didn't want to do anything. no internet, no iptables, not much of anything |
| 06:22.42 | chealer | leaveone: nvidia-installer is not supported on this channel |
| 06:23.10 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: ill upgrade the kernal. just direct link me to exactly what i need to burn. i dont like have 260 choices |
| 06:23.10 | konfuzed | leaveone, did you use the offical nvidia installer or the alternate instructions |
| 06:23.40 | nicolas__ | cant you identify the .jigdo and .template files who represents the sarge disc one ? |
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| 06:23.49 | leaveone | so far.. just the official.. but the alternate instructions tell me to build a kernel.. which of course i dont know how to do |
| 06:24.00 | konfuzed | hmmm |
| 06:24.19 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: from my understand http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/jigdo-cd/ is the CD i want. But it confuses me that there are 20 jingo files. |
| 06:24.21 | priscila | i like console because i has been used dos for a long time :P it was good times |
| 06:24.21 | chealer | leaveone: which alternate instructions? |
| 06:24.34 | leaveone | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#head-284082fa9cb8ee1654a131179e48c00a5e6fecd5 |
| 06:24.37 | leaveone | those |
| 06:24.46 | konfuzed | i keep hearing all the kernel building jockeys saying its breezy and they do it in their sleep |
| 06:24.51 | chealer | leaveone: where do those instructions tell you to build a kernel? |
| 06:25.05 | leaveone | 1. Build and install the kernel module |
| 06:25.30 | leaveone | under the Overview section.. towards the top |
| 06:25.32 | konfuzed | thats just a module not the whole kernel |
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| 06:25.48 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: not at all, get debian-31r1-i386-binary-1.jigdo and debian-31r1-i386-binary-1.template |
| 06:25.58 | ParoXsitiC | okay. |
| 06:26.19 | leaveone | oh ok.. well i dont know how to build modules either |
| 06:26.39 | chealer | leaveone: what about reading the document then? |
| 06:26.55 | konfuzed | no guarantees but it is likely that a makefile is included with the module download sources |
| 06:27.09 | nicolas__ | nicolas__: these are the necessary files for build and iso from packages on mirrors with jigdo |
| 06:27.12 | leaveone | im pretty sure that i installed the kernel-source from the DVD but if i did that ok why wouldnt the nvidia installer work |
| 06:27.20 | konfuzed | so untar it , go into directory, type make ; make install |
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| 06:27.25 | nicolas__ | s/for/to s/and/an |
| 06:27.39 | konfuzed | although that is less than a nutshell summary |
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| 06:27.48 | Travis_ | how do I search like 50 files for a certain word using grep? |
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| 06:28.03 | dondelelcaro | Travis_: xargs grep foo< foofilelist; |
| 06:28.09 | Travis_ | k |
| 06:28.10 | Travis_ | thanks |
| 06:28.11 | konfuzed | Travis_, * is your friend |
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| 06:29.06 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/downloadingyourfirstimage.html |
| 06:29.26 | nicolas__ | sorry, this is doc for doing it with debian |
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| 06:29.42 | ekkikrist | doin it |
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| 06:30.20 | nicolas__ | ekkikrist: sorry im new to english, saying doing it is bad? |
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| 06:30.36 | ekkikrist | No, just ignore me |
| 06:30.53 | nicolas__ | hrm ok, why? |
| 06:30.55 | nicolas__ | :) |
| 06:30.59 | ekkikrist | I'm starting trouble. |
| 06:31.01 | ekkikrist | doing it = sex |
| 06:31.09 | nicolas__ | thats what i tought |
| 06:31.12 | ekkikrist | hehe |
| 06:31.43 | nicolas__ | now ill always use that: "are you doing it with debian?" |
| 06:31.51 | ekkikrist | exactly :) |
| 06:31.56 | nicolas__ | you know when ubuntuer are asking help |
| 06:32.08 | nicolas__ | :P |
| 06:32.11 | ekkikrist | those poor souls. |
| 06:32.58 | ParoXsitiC | nicolas: I hate jigdo |
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| 06:33.06 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: its a pretty cool tool |
| 06:33.16 | ParoXsitiC | niclas: i used one of their recommend tools and the host was not found halfway through |
| 06:33.22 | ParoXsitiC | recommended mirrors** |
| 06:33.33 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: then use a correct mirror |
| 06:33.52 | leaveone | why wont this command work on command line? # apt-get install module-assistant gcc nvidia-kernel-common |
| 06:33.59 | konfuzed | hhmmm this is a video in flash player on a web page that doesnt spit out sound is this maybe a problem with flash instead of my sound system |
| 06:34.01 | rabies | leaveone, gotta be root |
| 06:34.06 | ParoXsitiC | Well i figured they wouldnt recommend half-ass mirrors, why am i even using this tool? why cant i use a direct download of the image itself |
| 06:34.17 | konfuzed | well something is missing but dont know what |
| 06:34.25 | leaveone | oh ok.. |
| 06:34.28 | nicolas__ | ParoXsitiC: its better this way |
| 06:34.36 | nicolas__ | you can get an image |
| 06:34.43 | nicolas__ | if you absolutely want to |
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| 06:35.11 | leaveone | thanks for the help everyone |
| 06:35.11 | ira | iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 06:35.15 | ParoXsitiC | id rather get a image from a real site than use some tool with a batch progress to download shady debs |
| 06:35.32 | nicolas__ | shady debs :P |
| 06:35.40 | ParoXsitiC | atleast shady mirrors |
| 06:35.49 | ira | hiiiiii |
| 06:35.49 | ParoXsitiC | they only had half the files |
| 06:35.56 | nicolas__ | you set the mirror when you use jigdo |
| 06:36.04 | ira | helo |
| 06:36.04 | Stevie | 250 Stevie |
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| 06:36.13 | ParoXsitiC | I know, i picked cleveland ohio, one that had listed for united states... |
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| 06:37.22 | dondelelcaro | ParoXsitiC: you can download the actual cd image if you want; you realize right, though, that you don't even need them? |
| 06:37.25 | ira | hi tgh buat apa |
| 06:37.28 | dondelelcaro | ParoXsitiC: you can just get a netinst image. |
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| 06:37.33 | martynas | hey, does somebody use lftp? i cant put/get files, tried set ftp:passive-mode on |
| 06:38.09 | martynas | 227 Entering Passive Mode (83,149,104,95,23,112). \ Connecting data socket to (83.149.104.95) port 6000 \ NLST \ data-socket: Connection reset by peer |
| 06:38.09 | ParoXsitiC | dondelecaro: I know, thats what I had orignally when i install debian, but now since debian completely fucked up i need to replace the kernel |
| 06:38.49 | ParoXsitiC | dondelelcaro: why would i not need them |
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| 06:39.10 | ParoXsitiC | nevermind. |
| 06:39.13 | dondelelcaro | ParoXsitiC: because you can boot using the installer image you've actually got? |
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| 06:39.52 | ParoXsitiC | dondelelcaro: i dont have the CD anymore, and I need to replace my kernal. |
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| 06:40.20 | ekkikrist | netinst can help |
| 06:40.22 | dondelelcaro | ParoXsitiC: well, just get a netinst cd. |
| 06:40.36 | ParoXsitiC | i am now. Does it have recovery mode on it |
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| 06:40.52 | ParoXsitiC | I do not want to lose data, only fix my problem with modprobe |
| 06:40.54 | dondelelcaro | ParoXsitiC: just boot, then mount your root, and install the proper directory |
| 06:40.58 | dondelelcaro | s/directory/kernel/ |
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| 06:41.44 | ParoXsitiC | dondelecaro: I dont know how to mount things. I am new to linux. All i want is my linux box to work like it did yesterday |
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| 06:42.02 | ParoXsitiC | dondelecaro: Does using the CD require me to use a module |
| 06:43.51 | cheal | I'm trying to get a backtrace of a segfault under gdb. the call stack has a huge loop regarding about 4 functions. I've kill -9-d gdb after it got over #30000 and to about 200 MB in VmRss without seeing the end of the backtrace. is there a way to show the backtrace starting from the end? |
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| 06:49.43 | gutano | has anyone tried the horde webmail imp? I installed the packages, but I don't seem to have anything here but utility scripts/docs |
| 06:50.08 | Azar | maybe one day some linux distro will automate the mount job for the users who do not want to bother with it |
| 06:50.35 | Coweater | there are plenty of ways to automate it |
| 06:50.47 | Azar | myself I will still wish to be able to use mount and other commands the way we do it today |
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| 06:57.41 | ParoXsitiC2 | How do I run a repair install from the netinst image |
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| 07:03.21 | Parox2 | I am looking to replace my current kernal with another one, but keep all the data. How? |
| 07:03.28 | Parox2 | without the use of the internet |
| 07:03.40 | Parox2 | (in linux, i can use windows and burn CDs) |
| 07:04.03 | cheal | Parox2: find a kernel which you don't need internet to install, and install it |
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| 07:05.40 | Parox2 | cheal: upong visiting http://debian.cites.uiuc.edu/pub/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ which one(s) do i download |
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| 07:06.08 | javier | hola |
| 07:06.18 | javier | soy nuevo en linux |
| 07:06.24 | javier | y nedesito ayuda |
| 07:06.25 | cheal | Parox2: this directory contains Debian ISOs, not Debian kernels |
| 07:06.28 | cheal | !es |
| 07:06.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 07:07.02 | Parox2 | cheal: well you were so broad in your answer i figured they was a way to limit out the kernal from the iso |
| 07:07.17 | Parox2 | how do I replace a kernal without the internet, specifically |
| 07:07.18 | tuv | how can i tell whether there has been some bad blocks in my HD after a badblock fsck scan? |
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| 07:08.18 | cheal | Parox2: you *could* get the kernel from the ISO, but that would be quite overkill. just identify the package(s) you need and make them available from Debian |
| 07:08.52 | Parox2 | cheal: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fupdates%2Fmain%2Fk%2Fkernel-image-2.6.8-i386%2Fkernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7_2.6.8-16sarge1_i386.deb&md5sum=cc888a3d69727d61b86a7f0945a51eff&arch=i386&type=security |
| 07:09.00 | Parox2 | is that more along the lines. Yes i have a k7 CPU |
| 07:09.15 | Parox2 | now how would I get debian to reteieve this deb |
| 07:09.34 | Parox2 | through CD |
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| 07:10.06 | cheal | Parox2: yes, assuming that's the version you want, you run Sarge, and you don't already have that file available from Debian |
| 07:10.17 | Parox2 | yeah, yeah amd yeah |
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| 07:10.57 | Parox2 | now I am going to burn it on a data CD from windows, then i am going to put the CD in linux. Now how can i access the CD from within linux and then get it to run that package |
| 07:11.16 | Parox2 | keep in mind I cant use modprobe or internet |
| 07:11.17 | cheal | Parox2: so you would burn that file and perhaps the files corresponding to unsatisfied dependencies of this package on a CD |
| 07:11.39 | cheal | Parox2: you can't use modprobe? |
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| 07:11.52 | Parox2 | cheal: no thats why im updating the kernal, something messed up with modprobe |
| 07:12.03 | ARCANGEL18 | TU MAE |
| 07:12.17 | tuv | anyone tried debian on nslu2? |
| 07:12.20 | Parox2 | cheal: I suppose your going to say I cant access the CD without modprobe |
| 07:12.23 | unstable | diana@cookooland:~$ xvidcap |
| 07:12.23 | unstable | xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 07:12.29 | unstable | What do I need for xvidcap to work? |
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| 07:13.19 | gutano | I found what I thought was the install guide, and created my base database, but the following steps talk about a web interface that I cannot find (no new stuff in /var/www/ |
| 07:13.27 | gutano | anyone familiar with the debian horde/imp install... it seems to have just given me utility scripts/docs.. =/ |
| 07:13.29 | cheal | Parox2: huuum. well, if you're confident that your problem will be fixed just by installing a new kernel, I doubt you'll need modprobe. you will install the package using # dpkg --install foo.deb |
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| 07:13.41 | tuv | how reliable is debian on nslu2? |
| 07:14.09 | gutano | those are backwards... asked earlier when channel was dead |
| 07:14.13 | cheal | tuv: yes, some people tried Debian on nslu2 |
| 07:14.14 | Parox2 | cheal: but what and where is the CD access |
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| 07:14.42 | tuv | cheal: are you one of them? how reliable is debian on nslu2? |
| 07:15.14 | cheal | Parox2: the .deb will be inside the mountpoint where you'll have mounted the CD |
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| 07:15.24 | Parox2 | cheal: how do I mount the CD |
| 07:16.08 | cheal | Parox2: man mount, unless, say, your desktop environment facilitates that |
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| 07:16.29 | Ashex | anyone know how to fix an Error 2 in the Grub loader? |
| 07:16.46 | Parox2 | cheal: no i only use bash. Now when I have the debs on the CD, will i need to install the depends first or will installing the image deb autoamtically look for the depends |
| 07:17.27 | cheal | Parox2: APT automatically looks for the depends. dpkg doesn't, so you have to install eventual unmet dependencies first |
| 07:18.02 | cheal | tuv: no. probably not great, as it wasn't supported before not long ago |
| 07:19.33 | tuv | cheal: there are two ways for debian to work in nslu2, armel and armeb i guess.. does that apply to both of them? how does debian's reliability on nslu2 compare to other OSs like unslung? |
| 07:19.35 | Stevie | Or you'll have to do --force ;) |
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| 07:20.30 | Ashex | so anyone know? |
| 07:20.34 | Ashex | or am I shafted? |
| 07:21.08 | cheal | tuv: I don't know, I have no clue about nslu2 |
| 07:21.15 | Stevie | Error 2? |
| 07:21.19 | Ashex | yeah |
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| 07:21.45 | Ashex | the Grub Manual tells me it means "Bad file or directory type" |
| 07:22.09 | tuv | cheal: well you should.. it's great indeed ! |
| 07:22.37 | cheal | tuv: hehe, I doubt I'll run Debian on arm so soon |
| 07:22.38 | Stevie | Ashex: what's your root line? |
| 07:23.25 | Ashex | erm, what do you mean? |
| 07:23.25 | tuv | cheal: i experienced disk corruption a few times now and looking for an alternative os. not using debian yet.. that's why i'm asking |
| 07:23.52 | tuv | cheal: i mean i use debian on my other machines, but not yet on my nslu2 |
| 07:24.01 | Stevie | Ashex: Does grub give you the menu at all? |
| 07:24.10 | Ashex | Stevie: nope, not at all |
| 07:24.36 | Stevie | Ashex: I suspect that your /boot/grub/menu.lst may have vanished |
| 07:24.54 | Ashex | :S any idea how to fix that? |
| 07:25.02 | Ashex | I have my thumbdrive, so I can boot linux off that.... |
| 07:25.03 | Stevie | put a new one in? |
| 07:25.15 | Stevie | maybe dpkg-reconfigure grub |
| 07:25.36 | tuv | wouldn't update-grub do? |
| 07:25.43 | hejux | an American Farmer & an American linux programmer |
| 07:26.03 | Ashex | I can't load linux, so would doing dpkpg off a live cd word? |
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| 07:26.42 | Parox2 | I attempted to mount the Cd rom with the command 'mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom' but it told me that iso9660 was not a type, any help? |
| 07:27.08 | Assid | can someone help me with this: i get : unknown filesystem 'devfs' |
| 07:27.23 | Assid | someone asked me to use udev.. if i am using the newer kernel |
| 07:27.26 | Stevie | Assid: devfs is deprecated. udev is what you want |
| 07:27.31 | CAiRO | what can be the cause if an apache child process doesn't timeout? i see my /server-status and there are lots of old connection with SS values (Seconds since beginning of most recent request) bigger than 100000 |
| 07:27.39 | CAiRO | and in my apache2.con i've set Timeout to 180 |
| 07:27.44 | Assid | Stevie: thats what i was told.. but i have udev and i still have this issue |
| 07:27.58 | Stevie | Assid: Well, *what* is telling you 'unknown filesystem devfs' ? |
| 07:28.07 | Stevie | Parox2: did you build your own kernel? |
| 07:28.13 | cheal | Parox2: did you try just # mount /media/cdrom; ? |
| 07:28.13 | Parox2 | stevie: no |
| 07:28.30 | Parox2 | cheal: i tried mount /dev/cdrom and it did not want to |
| 07:28.34 | Assid | Stevie: when i boot into my new kernel |
| 07:28.37 | Assid | 2.6.15 |
| 07:28.39 | unstable | WHat package is f4lm? |
| 07:28.52 | cheal | Parox2: it's not the same as what I suggested |
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| 07:29.09 | Stevie | Assid: So far you've told me that when your computer is on, you get the message |
| 07:29.23 | Stevie | (any messages you get come after you boot into the kernel) |
| 07:30.08 | Assid | well.. thats one of the places it konks off.. it also says modprobe fatal: could not load /lib/modules/.... modules.dep |
| 07:30.09 | Parox2 | okay cheal, i tried exactly how you told me, and it gave the same error |
| 07:30.14 | Parox2 | unknown type iso9660 |
| 07:30.24 | Assid | but then without /dev .. nothings gonna work |
| 07:30.26 | unix_infidel | Parox2: what kinda cd is this? |
| 07:30.32 | Stevie | Assid: wait, what? |
| 07:30.33 | Parox2 | its a data CD |
| 07:30.57 | Stevie | Assid: You seem to be dropping out key pieces of information |
| 07:30.59 | Parox2 | a data CD with DEBs on it |
| 07:31.27 | Assid | okay lemme start from beginning.. i had a redhat box.. which i remotely changed over to debian |
| 07:31.28 | Stevie | Parox2: what does 'file -ks /dev/cdrom' say? |
| 07:31.39 | Stevie | okay |
| 07:31.40 | Assid | everything works fine now.. EXCEPT when i try upgrading the kernel |
| 07:31.59 | Stevie | err |
| 07:32.02 | Stevie | stop right there |
| 07:32.03 | Assid | when i boot to the new kernel.. i end up with that error |
| 07:32.10 | Stevie | I thought you said you already had the kernel installed |
| 07:32.34 | Assid | new one? nah.. never booted into it once |
| 07:32.41 | Assid | i keep jumping back to the old one to do whatever i want |
| 07:32.43 | Stevie | so you aren't getting a problem from upgrading the kernel, you're getting a problem when booting the kernel |
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| 07:32.59 | Parox2 | Stevie: it says symbolic link to /dev/hda or something like that |
| 07:33.04 | Assid | err.. yep .. when i boot the new kernel |
| 07:33.12 | tuv | how can i list the badblocks on my drive ( i performed a badblock scan a while ago)? |
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| 07:33.19 | Stevie | Parox2: 'file -ksL /dev/cdrom' |
| 07:33.59 | Stevie | Assid: Okay, now we're getting somewhere. The next step is to actually tell me the real complete error message, as well what's happening when the error message is displayed |
| 07:34.18 | cheal | Parox2: do you have an isofs module loaded? |
| 07:34.45 | Stevie | cheal: It should have been loaded when he did mount -t iso9660 |
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| 07:34.48 | Parox2 | Stevie: it says writeable, no read permission |
| 07:34.59 | Stevie | Parox2: ... |
| 07:35.03 | Stevie | Parox2: wtf? |
| 07:35.04 | Parox2 | Steveie: no. I cant load any modules...thats why im installing a new kernal |
| 07:35.05 | cheal | Stevie: I suppose... |
| 07:36.02 | Parox2 | I think I have some sort of virus |
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| 07:36.20 | Ashex | whats the command for rescue mode on the debian DVD? |
| 07:36.31 | Stevie | Ashex: try init=/bin/sh |
| 07:36.56 | Stevie | root=/dev/hda1 init=/bin/sh |
| 07:37.18 | cheal | Ashex: "rescue" |
| 07:37.24 | Stevie | that's too easy |
| 07:37.28 | Stevie | it should be like |
| 07:37.34 | Stevie | 92bea1d58fA4d983047774eaea85f8de |
| 07:37.38 | Stevie | case sensitive |
| 07:37.59 | Ashex | can't mount root |
| 07:38.12 | Stevie | can't? |
| 07:38.20 | Parox2 | Can anyone guide me with mounting a CD ROM |
| 07:38.25 | ice_1963 | mount /dev/hdd |
| 07:38.32 | cheal | Parox2: what does $ lsmod|wc; output? |
| 07:38.41 | Stevie | cheal: Or cat /proc/filesystems |
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| 07:39.23 | Eulex | Ashex, well, which hdd and partition is debian installed on? |
| 07:39.45 | Ashex | heh, that's the tricky part |
| 07:39.52 | Ashex | I imaged Debian to a larger hard drive |
| 07:40.18 | Parox2 | Cheal: 8 39 423 |
| 07:40.38 | cheal | Parox2: ok, so do you have an isofs module loaded? |
| 07:40.41 | Parox2 | no. |
| 07:40.48 | Ashex | I've been working on doing a network install of Debian, this is more a proof of concept |
| 07:40.51 | Parox2 | lsmod shows no isofs |
| 07:41.06 | cheal | Parox2: what does # modprobe isofs; return? |
| 07:41.17 | Stevie | Ashex: So far it seems to be proving that what you're trying won't work |
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| 07:41.26 | Parox2 | my guess is going to be cant found module isofs, because modprone wont locate anything, but ill try |
| 07:41.30 | Eulex | Ashex, get a grub floppy and do find /boot/grub/stage1 |
| 07:41.31 | Ashex | Stevie: yeah, it looks like it |
| 07:41.56 | Nowak | or just use lilo :D |
| 07:42.06 | Eulex | Ashex, that will find what device you installed debian on, if it had grub on it |
| 07:42.15 | Stevie | eh Assid |
| 07:42.16 | Assid | Stevie: sorry.. my net died out |
| 07:42.29 | Parox2 | Back, 'Can't locate module isofs' |
| 07:42.33 | Assid | last 2 lines were: [13:03:04] <Parox2> Stevie: it says symbolic link to /dev/hda or something like that |
| 07:42.33 | Assid | [13:03:08] <Assid> err.. yep .. when i boot the new kernel |
| 07:42.35 | Ashex | Eulex: any idea where I can grab a Grub iso? I don't have a floppy :S |
| 07:42.45 | Stevie | [02:33] <Stevie> Assid: Okay, now we're getting somewhere. The next step is to actually tell me the real complete error message, as well what's happening when the error message is displayed |
| 07:43.12 | Assid | its like everything possible thgat can go wrong is going wrong to stop me from working |
| 07:43.29 | Assid | Stevie: sure.. lemme get you a screenshot |
| 07:43.31 | Parox2 | This is probably the 20th time from this channel someone has tried to help me and no one can. I am fucked |
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| 07:43.45 | Stevie | Parox2: what the hell setup do you have on your system? |
| 07:43.55 | Eulex | Ashex, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html |
| 07:43.59 | gutano | anyone familiar with the debian horde/imp install... it seems to have just given me utility scripts/docs.. =/ need a starting point |
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| 07:44.12 | Stevie | if something about your system is unusual (and it's pretty clear that it is), you need to tell us |
| 07:44.24 | hjubal | hi |
| 07:44.25 | cheal | Parox2: does it make a difference if you run # depmod -a; before trying to modprobe? |
| 07:44.46 | Assid | Stevie: pm ? |
| 07:44.47 | unix_infidel | yes. |
| 07:44.52 | Parox2 | Stevie: Ive been running debian sarge 2.4 for 4 months, never fucked with any settings, i simply ran a server through SSH. the machine is headless. Today i rebooted and modprobe has not worked since, since i cant load modules, my NICs wont detect nor will iptables or anything useful |
| 07:45.03 | Parox2 | I have no internet, i have no CD or floppy |
| 07:45.36 | Parox2 | cheal: ive done depmod, depmod -a, and deleted modules.dep and rebooting |
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| 07:45.48 | Parox2 | Ive even hand put modules in modules.dep and tried it then, no |
| 07:46.05 | Parox2 | Ive located the modules and they exist at /lib/modules/`uname -r` |
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| 07:46.12 | Parox2 | but modprobe cannot locate them |
| 07:46.33 | Parox2 | amazing how depedant the system is on modprobe |
| 07:47.03 | cheal | Parox2: what does # insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/fs/isofs/isofs.o; return? |
| 07:47.28 | Stevie | Parox2: Then what did you change? |
| 07:47.38 | Assid | Stevie ? |
| 07:47.58 | Stevie | Assid: what? |
| 07:48.01 | Parox2 | Ill try it. I've tried this with via-rhine, and it just doesnt work because it needs depends, i am guessing |
| 07:48.11 | Assid | i pm'd you the link to the screenshot |
| 07:48.24 | Stevie | then your message was erased by my spam filter |
| 07:48.29 | Assid | oh.. |
| 07:48.32 | cheal | Parox2: well, you can always manage dependencies manually, no? |
| 07:48.35 | Stevie | you need to msg me with a non-spam msg first |
| 07:48.35 | Assid | so should i send it again? |
| 07:48.37 | Parox2 | Stevie: nothing. The thing worth noting here is that recently ive been getting alot of hacking threats and etc, but usally only from people who have no idea what they are talking abou |
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| 07:49.04 | Eulex | Ashex, also, this one will be useful: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html |
| 07:49.30 | Assid | Stevie: okay did that |
| 07:49.46 | Parox2 | I use linux to run a service to 200 people. So ive spent the last 9 hours in this chat and on google, unplugging montiors and keyboard back and forth trying to solve this problem |
| 07:50.38 | Stevie | Parox2: where are all your modules? |
| 07:50.48 | valdyn | Parox2: can you access the hardware of that box? |
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| 07:51.09 | Parox2 | yes |
| 07:51.20 | Assid | Stevie: so what do you suggest i do? |
| 07:51.26 | Parox2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:51.27 | valdyn | Parox2: so why dont you plug in another cdrom / floppy / nic / usb stick / whatever |
| 07:51.34 | Stevie | Assid: Grub, right? |
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| 07:51.36 | Assid | yep |
| 07:51.43 | Parox2 | valdyn: i cant mount them without modules |
| 07:51.52 | Stevie | can you pastebot somewhere the grub menu.lst entry for the 2.6.15 kernel? |
| 07:51.53 | valdyn | Parox2: but you can boot from them |
| 07:52.04 | Assid | sure.. gimme a sec |
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| 07:52.27 | Parox2 | valdyn, noone has given me a viable solution to boot from that doesnt require losing data |
| 07:52.32 | Stevie | Assid: Btw, are you on sarge or etch? |
| 07:52.42 | Assid | sarge |
| 07:52.44 | Stevie | Parox2: What are you talking about? |
| 07:52.49 | valdyn | Parox2: i just gave you one |
| 07:52.57 | Stevie | Parox2: How will booting from another device cause you to lose data? |
| 07:53.16 | valdyn | Parox2: alternatively you remove the harddisk from that box and insert it into a working system and fix things |
| 07:53.27 | Parox2 | Stevie: I was referring to booting up with the install ISO and then reinstalling, thats the only solution i can see here |
| 07:53.40 | Assid | Stevie: http://pastebin.com/608725 |
| 07:53.43 | Stevie | but that's not what valdyn just said |
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| 07:54.21 | Assid | put in the one that works.. also mentioned my mounts in there.. |
| 07:54.24 | Assid | from the working kernel |
| 07:54.30 | Parox2 | I am confused by his statement then, How would plugging anything into the linux machine help me at all, I cant mount whatever I plug in |
| 07:54.47 | Stevie | Parox2: you're not listening |
| 07:55.06 | valdyn | Parox2: you boot from the _new_ added disk ( or from your known working disk if you chose the alternative ) |
| 07:55.06 | Ashex | would it be possible to boot debian with a syslinux boot disk? |
| 07:55.28 | valdyn | Ashex: yes sure |
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| 07:55.36 | Assid | Ashex: yep.. you just mention root=whatever |
| 07:55.38 | Assid | and you get the box up |
| 07:55.46 | nuxil | guys you know when you press SHIFT NUMLOCK you can move the mouse with the numpad.. is there a way to set the speed on the mouse cursor for this?? |
| 07:55.49 | Ashex | so it would skip grub? |
| 07:55.52 | Stevie | Assid: What does cat /etc/fstab say? |
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| 07:56.42 | valdyn | Parox2: given your systems obviously 'fucked' state, you can just backup all data you need via one of the 2 methods i told you and reinstall anyway, nothing hard about that |
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| 07:56.46 | Stevie | you join #asterisk |
| 07:56.56 | Assid | Stevie: refresh |
| 07:57.05 | Stevie | refresh what? |
| 07:57.09 | gutano | anyone familiar with the debian horde/imp install... it seems to have just given me utility scripts/docs.. =/ need a starting point |
| 07:57.22 | Assid | http://pastebin.com/608729 |
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| 07:58.11 | blahdebla1 | Has anyone tried to estimate the real number of systems running Debian, or what percentage of Debian users the popularity contest represents? |
| 07:58.37 | valdyn | blahdebla1: netcraft |
| 07:59.37 | Parox2 | http://debian.cites.uiuc.edu/pub/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ which one(s) of these would I need to install |
| 07:59.46 | Stevie | Assid: have you seen thi? http://glasnost.beeznest.org/articles/186 |
| 07:59.51 | valdyn | Parox2: use sarge, not current |
| 07:59.53 | blahdebla1 | valdyn: Does netcraft go to the level of distinguishing Linux distributions? I thought they just concentrated on web servers? |
| 08:00.28 | Stevie | blahdebla1: It's all, moot, anyway -- http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/4/linux_distros.html |
| 08:00.49 | valdyn | Parox2: oh nm, just use the first disk on that link |
| 08:01.16 | Parox2 | valdyn: yeah it confused me. I thought that was sarge, but okay |
| 08:01.18 | blahdebla1 | Parox2: you only ever need 1 disc to install. You can get the rest from the package mirrors. |
| 08:01.24 | Assid | Stevie: does devpts qualify as devfs or similar? |
| 08:01.25 | valdyn | Parox2: it is sarge, sorry |
| 08:01.29 | Parox2 | why exactly do they have 20 images of it? |
| 08:01.35 | valdyn | Ashex: no |
| 08:01.41 | Stevie | Assid: no |
| 08:01.56 | blahdebla1 | Stevie: Funny link! :-) |
| 08:02.00 | valdyn | Parox2: they dont |
| 08:02.08 | Stevie | ;) |
| 08:02.21 | blahdebla1 | Parox2: That's the *whole* Debian archive. You will only likely need a small portion of it. |
| 08:02.39 | Stevie | btw, what does the 'boot=' option do? |
| 08:03.20 | valdyn | Stevie: its bullshit, looks like , to me |
| 08:03.37 | Assid | Stevie: nothing helpful.. the only part where it says to ln the files.. those say thye already exist |
| 08:03.38 | valdyn | Stevie: ( or are we talking lilo.conf options here ? ) |
| 08:03.41 | Parox2 | valdyn: I just expected a simple, 'this is what you need' download and they present me with types of debians, kernals, specially designed for CPUs, and then when you get all that, you have 20 CDs of debian, yet only need 1, and people wonder why the majority use windows |
| 08:04.11 | valdyn | Parox2: i dont know what to tell you, its not a flaw that debian is the largest distro there is on earth |
| 08:04.45 | Parox2 | valdyn: i agree its not a flaw, but maybe the debian website could be a little more user friendly, im just ranting |
| 08:04.58 | valdyn | Parox2: yea it could |
| 08:05.44 | Stevie | what page are you looking at, Parox2? |
| 08:05.57 | Parox2 | any of the CD pages for download |
| 08:05.59 | valdyn | Parox2: its a volunteer effort though, people are free to chose a commercial well marketed, 'fancy' alternative |
| 08:06.15 | Stevie | Wow. There's a nice, specific answer </sarcasm> |
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| 08:06.55 | Parox2 | steveie, the URL is above, but since your lazy. http://debian.cites.uiuc.edu/pub/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 08:06.55 | Assid | Stevie: that didnt help :( |
| 08:07.02 | valdyn | Stevie: he's referring to the fact that an ISO directory on for debian cd images contains 20 files ) |
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| 08:07.15 | Stevie | why are you looking at a directory listing? |
| 08:07.39 | valdyn | !ig |
| 08:07.41 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 08:07.44 | Stevie | http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 08:07.49 | Parox2 | because the website pointed to it as a mirror |
| 08:07.56 | Stevie | netinst CD image |
| 08:07.59 | Stevie | i386 |
| 08:08.01 | Stevie | voila |
| 08:08.11 | Parox2 | I know stevie, thats how i orignally installed debian, its simple |
| 08:08.19 | Assid | Stevie: http://pastebin.com/608736 <- directory structure is same as they described |
| 08:08.25 | Parox2 | Stevie: but it wont detect my network atm..I dont know why |
| 08:08.43 | Stevie | Parox2: lspci -vv |
| 08:08.49 | Stevie | or actually |
| 08:08.52 | Parox2 | Stevie: I tried running it and tried running off both NICs and it could not correctly enable DHCP |
| 08:08.53 | Stevie | Parox2: just lspci |
| 08:09.09 | Parox2 | lspci lists my network cards. I know what modules they need |
| 08:09.13 | Parox2 | yet i cannot load them |
| 08:09.21 | Stevie | But I don't. |
| 08:09.48 | Stevie | I, lacking any sort of clairvoyant abilities, know only what you tell me |
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| 08:10.33 | Parox2 | Stevie: 3Com 3c905c-TX/TX-M & D-Link DFE-530TX+ |
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| 08:10.53 | Stevie | okay |
| 08:10.57 | Stevie | and which modules do those need? |
| 08:11.11 | Parox2 | the DFE needs rtl8138 |
| 08:11.21 | maple | why msn connot login now |
| 08:11.34 | maple | login in |
| 08:11.35 | cheal | maple: ask #msn |
| 08:11.38 | Parox2 | abd tge 3 com handles either the via-rhine or one of the 3 ones. I had it written down |
| 08:12.05 | Stevie | well |
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| 08:12.47 | valdyn | Parox2: you have 2 kernels available on that installer |
| 08:13.06 | Stevie | Parox2: What do you get out of: modprobe -vn via-rhine |
| 08:13.58 | Parox2 | Stevie: I have not tried using -vn but id guess its going to be the same result as modprobe via-rhine, which is 'Cant locate module via-rhine' |
| 08:14.08 | Stevie | Parox2: I have a question |
| 08:14.19 | Parox2 | despite via-rhine in the correct directory to my understanding |
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| 08:15.20 | nuxil | guys you know when you press SHIFT NUMLOCK you can move the mouse with the numpad.. is there a way to set the speed on the mouse cursor for this?? |
| 08:15.27 | Ashex | I'm using a grub rescue cd |
| 08:15.47 | Ashex | And apparently Grub neve existed in the partition |
| 08:15.52 | Stevie | Parox2: Do you think that this machine should be working? |
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| 08:16.41 | Parox2 | Stevie: Odd question, not sure what your asking, but do I think that linux screwed up out of no where, yes. It was fine for 4 months untouched and today it is not working. |
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| 08:17.10 | Stevie | Parox2: So, to the best of your knowledge, this machine should be in a configuration that works |
| 08:17.39 | Parox2 | Yes, but like I said. It's possible someone gained root access and tinkered with since I had alot of attention on a pretty insecure machine |
| 08:17.48 | Stevie | okay |
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| 08:18.22 | Stevie | If, to your knowledge, this machine should be working, yet it is not working, then the only logical conclusion is that some or all of your knowledge is incorrect |
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| 08:18.51 | Stevie | In order to find the problem, we need to find out which piece of knowledge that is |
| 08:18.59 | Parox2 | exactly |
| 08:19.07 | Stevie | Which means we can't make any assumptions |
| 08:19.25 | Parox2 | More or less, based on the time issue given |
| 08:19.41 | Parox2 | This machine needs to be back how it was within 12 hours |
| 08:19.43 | Stevie | because an assumption implies belief that our knowledge of the system's state is correct |
| 08:19.52 | Stevie | Did you try modprobe -vn ? |
| 08:20.08 | Parox2 | no, i am trying it now, let me unplug everything and hook it back up to linux |
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| 08:20.17 | Stevie | okay. |
| 08:20.20 | cahoot | nuxil: looks like it's confiurable in kde at least |
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| 08:21.24 | Parox2 | Stevie: 'Can't load module via-rhine' |
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| 08:22.03 | Assid | Stevie: im still stuck.. can ya help me? |
| 08:22.08 | Stevie | that's that all it said? |
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| 08:22.27 | Ashex | okay, here's an update on my issues with grub |
| 08:22.30 | penrod | I have inherited a linux/debian server to maintain, earlier this evening there was a powerloss and one drive didn't come up. I can see that the drive is identified as /dev/sdb1, what I am unsure of id which file system it is using. I tried to mount it as reiserfs as the first drive is formatted as reiserfs. Is there a method to use to identify which filesystem is used on /dev/sdb1 ? |
| 08:22.34 | Assid | for me? yeah |
| 08:22.36 | Ashex | apparently /boot doesn't exist |
| 08:22.43 | Assid | it gets hung there |
| 08:22.45 | Ashex | so trying to use grub-install is not working at all |
| 08:22.59 | Stevie | Assid: I do not know what's wrong |
| 08:23.01 | cahoot | penrod: -t auto is of no use? |
| 08:23.02 | Stevie | I'm sorry |
| 08:23.03 | Zrin | how can I test a hard disk for (hardware) problems under debian? |
| 08:23.05 | Parox2 | Stevie: Yes |
| 08:23.14 | penrod | let me see |
| 08:23.15 | Stevie | Parox2: 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 08:23.20 | Parox2 | 2.4 |
| 08:23.52 | Zrin | penrod: look in /etc/fstab |
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| 08:24.35 | penrod | I had looked in /etc/fstab and the drive is not listed there. but does show up in dmesg |
| 08:24.47 | Assid | damn,... im lost! |
| 08:25.27 | Parox2 | I have a general question, so far Ive seen only talk about 2.4 and 2.6, but what are those versions really of? My limited understand is that their kernal versions for linux itself, that said what does the debian 3.1 on the CD stand for, what is the 3.1 |
| 08:25.30 | SerajewelKS | penrod: fdisk -l /dev/sdb |
| 08:25.31 | CAiRO | what can be the cause if an apache child process doesn't timeout? i see my /server-status and there are lots of old connection with SS values (Seconds since beginning of most recent request) bigger than 100000 |
| 08:26.02 | Zrin | penrod: do you think that drive contained data? |
| 08:26.03 | SerajewelKS | penrod: and try 'file -s /dev/sdb1' |
| 08:26.05 | Stevie | Parox2: okay. strace -f modprobe via-rhine |
| 08:26.13 | cheal | Parox2: 3.1 is the version of Debian, your GNU/Linux distribution. 2.6 is the current Linux kernel version |
| 08:26.56 | Zrin | SerajewelKS: is there a linux utility to test HD for (hardware) problems? |
| 08:26.58 | penrod | ok, but does not identify the file system except to say id 83 |
| 08:27.25 | Stevie | file -ks /dev/sdb1 |
| 08:27.26 | penrod | zrin: yes the drive does contain data |
| 08:27.30 | Zrin | penrod: wasn't 83 FAT/VFAT? |
| 08:27.52 | Zrin | penrod: or 83 ext2 7 linux? |
| 08:28.00 | SerajewelKS | Zrin: there's smartctl, but i doubt that works with SCSI |
| 08:28.20 | Zrin | SerajewelKS: I need it for an IDE drive |
| 08:28.21 | SerajewelKS | Zrin: 83 is "Linux" |
| 08:28.21 | Assid | Stevie: okay heres something interesting.. if i use the debian kernel (2.6-686) i directly get that /sbin/init error |
| 08:28.25 | Assid | not the devfs |
| 08:28.46 | Zrin | penrod: so that 83 is for a linux partition |
| 08:28.48 | Parox2 | Stevie: Strace: command not found |
| 08:28.56 | Stevie | lowercase s |
| 08:29.05 | Parox2 | sorry, it was lowercase |
| 08:29.08 | SerajewelKS | Zrin: note that it doesn't specify the partition type, which is kind of stupid |
| 08:29.09 | Stevie | oh. |
| 08:29.13 | Parox2 | i just capitalized it for whatever reason |
| 08:29.13 | Stevie | well get strace on there |
| 08:29.32 | Parox2 | Stevie: I dont have internet on it. |
| 08:29.37 | SerajewelKS | penrod: it doesn't list "Linux" after 83? |
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| 08:29.58 | Stevie | Parox2: Do you have a serial port? |
| 08:30.14 | Parox2 | Yeah |
| 08:30.22 | Stevie | Parox2: Do you have a null modem cable? |
| 08:30.26 | Parox2 | No. |
| 08:30.30 | Stevie | Well why not |
| 08:30.49 | Stevie | errr |
| 08:30.51 | Stevie | wtf |
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| 08:31.12 | penrod | what is the url for posting output one get s from cli |
| 08:31.26 | valdyn | !paste |
| 08:31.26 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 08:31.27 | SerajewelKS | penrod: pastebin.ca ? |
| 08:31.38 | penrod | thankyou, one moment |
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| 08:32.40 | Stevie | hey Parox2 |
| 08:32.46 | Stevie | where is the via-rhine.o file? |
| 08:33.03 | sk2 | apart from iptables, is there some other place I should be checking for a reason why dhclient now reports "receive_packet failed on eth0: network is down" |
| 08:33.19 | penrod | the output from fdisk/dev/sdb & p ...http://pastebin.ca/46109 |
| 08:33.31 | Assid | umm.. do i need to enable anything in the kernel for udev to work? |
| 08:33.35 | Stevie | sk2: is the patch cable plugged in? |
| 08:33.37 | valdyn | sk2: no, that message means that your cable is not plugged in properly or that the device on the other end of the cable is off |
| 08:33.38 | Parox2 | Stevie: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/net/via-rhine.o |
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| 08:33.51 | sk2 | the lights are coming on |
| 08:33.53 | Parox2 | kernel/ |
| 08:33.56 | sk2 | ill double check l1 then |
| 08:33.58 | Stevie | Parox2: what happens if you ls that? |
| 08:34.00 | Parox2 | Stevie: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/via-rhine.o |
| 08:34.26 | Parox2 | ls. as directory list? the net folder? |
| 08:34.31 | Stevie | no |
| 08:34.38 | valdyn | sk2: iptables 'removing' incoming packets would be transparent to dhcpd |
| 08:34.39 | sk2 | also, tcpdump shows packets from the rest of the network, so the cable is active |
| 08:34.41 | Parox2 | view inside it? |
| 08:34.44 | valdyn | sk2: er dhclient |
| 08:34.59 | Stevie | what you just said was your path is not the path to via-rhine.o |
| 08:35.01 | sk2 | hmmm ok |
| 08:35.24 | Stevie | If you type it into your shell, your shell will replace it with the correct path |
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| 08:36.00 | Stevie | so, if you ls that, what do you get? |
| 08:36.18 | sk2 | so that error is pretty much from a dodgy cable? |
| 08:36.26 | Stevie | could be, sk2 |
| 08:36.29 | valdyn | sk2: yea |
| 08:36.31 | Parox2 | oh right. you want the linux version with it, k ... /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/net/via-rhine.o |
| 08:36.40 | valdyn | sk2: it can be any other kind of hardware failure there though |
| 08:36.41 | sk2 | even though tcpdump shows up traffic from other hosts? |
| 08:36.42 | Stevie | Parox2: that's what ls printed? |
| 08:36.44 | sk2 | ok |
| 08:36.46 | sk2 | thanks |
| 08:37.07 | Parox2 | one second stevie |
| 08:37.10 | valdyn | sk2: or an ethernet failure, like 2 nics that fail to handshake properly |
| 08:37.27 | Stevie | valdyn: you mean there's no EPHONELINEINRJ45 status? |
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| 08:37.55 | SerajewelKS | penrod: hmm i can't connect to pastebin.ca for some reason =/ |
| 08:38.18 | valdyn | Stevie: no idea, just saying the error is below the ip layer |
| 08:39.14 | valdyn | Stevie: but ethernet or lower |
| 08:39.16 | penrod | pastebin.ca does seem a bit slow 6-8 seconds |
| 08:39.24 | Parox2 | Stevie: I forgot about the drivers folder, do the true path is: |
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| 08:39.32 | Parox2 | Stevie: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o |
| 08:39.44 | valdyn | Stevie: i read it, didnt get its supposed to be a joke |
| 08:39.44 | Stevie | Parox2: So if you ls what you just told me, what does it print? |
| 08:39.52 | Parox2 | it says its a file |
| 08:39.57 | Parox2 | not a directory |
| 08:40.04 | Stevie | wow |
| 08:40.29 | Stevie | what version of ls replaced all output with "its a file\nnot a directory" ? |
| 08:41.17 | Parox2 | okay. I give up on you, what significant output are you expecting to find from ls'ing a file |
| 08:41.35 | Stevie | Parox2: I have asked you repeatedly |
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| 08:41.46 | Stevie | "what does ls <that path> print" |
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| 08:42.08 | Parox2 | and ive told you, it prints out a shit load of .o files that deal with net |
| 08:42.12 | Stevie | I don't think that's a very complicated request |
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| 08:42.27 | Parox2 | when its vague and you say 'what does that ls' |
| 08:42.32 | Stevie | Okay, then there's a serious problem |
| 08:42.40 | Stevie | because that should print EXACTLY ONE .o file |
| 08:42.47 | Parox2 | no, there are shit loads |
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| 08:43.04 | Stevie | ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o <- prints lots of files? |
| 08:43.05 | Parox2 | unless you are talking about the wrong path |
| 08:43.16 | valdyn | Parox2: you are supposed to do _exactly_ what helpers tell you, that command _wont_ print alot of files |
| 08:43.39 | valdyn | Parox2: rather, you'd have to go a long way to make it do that |
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| 08:44.38 | Parox2 | Stevie: when you said 'what does ls <that path> print' I assumed you mean the path in which the file is in. My unstanding of the ls command is that its used for directories, not files. via-rhine.o is a file, however, I will print exactly what it says when i ls that file. |
| 08:45.05 | Stevie | Parox2: this brings me back to my earlier speech about assumptions |
| 08:46.15 | YogSothoth | 'morning! |
| 08:46.32 | Stevie | greetings, yogsothothothothothothothothSegmentation fault |
| 08:46.43 | Assid | can someone help me, i got this error: http://www.pienotech.com/screen.png |
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| 08:47.25 | Parox2 | Stevie: /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o |
| 08:47.30 | Stevie | okay, thank you |
| 08:47.35 | Parox2 | I said that, 5 min. ago |
| 08:47.52 | Stevie | what does this do: insmod -pv /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o |
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| 08:49.03 | Parox2 | you have to understand my ability to want to assume things , because trying every single commanbd you give me is a pain, since the linux is headless and no keyboard I have to unplug the monitor, and keyboard and plug it inot the linux box, run the command, write it dowm, unplug, and re-plug. I will try the insmod now |
| 08:49.21 | valdyn | Assid: your kernel does not support devfs |
| 08:49.25 | valdyn | Assid: use your old kernel |
| 08:49.31 | Stevie | valdyn: he's trying to use udev |
| 08:49.32 | liable | Parox2: cant you ssh into it? |
| 08:49.44 | Parox2 | i have no networking, because modules wont load |
| 08:49.45 | Stevie | liable: networking isn't working (the problem we're tryign to resolve) |
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| 08:49.50 | liable | oh |
| 08:49.51 | Assid | valdyn: i wanna move to the new kernel.. and use udev |
| 08:49.57 | Stevie | and of course he has no null modem cable |
| 08:50.04 | valdyn | Assid: your /etc/fstab still has a devfs entry though? |
| 08:50.11 | Stevie | valdyn: Nope. checked |
| 08:50.23 | Assid | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/608736 |
| 08:50.26 | Stevie | Everybody should have 3 null modem cables |
| 08:50.39 | Stevie | male-male, female-female, and male-female |
| 08:51.15 | liable | red-hat?? |
| 08:51.17 | valdyn | Assid: your initrd does for some reason |
| 08:51.40 | Stevie | hmm... Assid, is that a stock kernel? |
| 08:51.54 | valdyn | Assid: maybe all you need to do is 'dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-foo' |
| 08:52.07 | sussudio | Stevie: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/nullmodem_the_hard_way.jpg |
| 08:52.16 | valdyn | Assid: but im not really familiar with how the initrds get generated exactly.. |
| 08:52.29 | Assid | mkinitrd |
| 08:52.29 | valdyn | Assid: either way the erratic fstab or whatever is in your initrd |
| 08:52.41 | Stevie | sussudio: You know, I've actually had a setup like that before. |
| 08:52.56 | sussudio | Stevie: it's currently in use. |
| 08:53.14 | Assid | lemme get rid of my initrd and see |
| 08:53.16 | Stevie | sussudio: I grabbed a book and hit the person who made me set it up |
| 08:53.23 | Assid | didnt help last time around |
| 08:53.24 | Stevie | no no Assid |
| 08:53.28 | Stevie | your kernel won't boot |
| 08:54.12 | valdyn | Assid: just deleting the initrd wont help unless the essential drivers are compiled into your kernel ( and not modules ) |
| 08:54.28 | Stevie | dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 08:54.37 | Assid | valdyn: got everything inside the image anyways |
| 08:54.41 | Assid | the ones that really matter |
| 08:54.42 | Parox2 | Stevue: Alot of unresolved symbols came up, would you like to see them |
| 08:54.48 | Stevie | hm |
| 08:55.00 | Stevie | what kind of machine are you running on right now? |
| 08:55.01 | valdyn | Assid: or just use a debian kernel |
| 08:55.10 | Stevie | or more precisely |
| 08:55.18 | Stevie | do you have a linux box that does work and is networked |
| 08:55.26 | Parox2 | No |
| 08:55.32 | Stevie | none at all? |
| 08:55.34 | Assid | valdyn: debian kernel didnt help |
| 08:55.39 | liable | Assid: what happens if you MAKEDEV generic? |
| 08:55.50 | valdyn | Assid: gives the same error? |
| 08:55.52 | Assid | eh? |
| 08:55.56 | Parox2 | Stevie: I am sorry i dont have null modem cable hanging around nor multiple linux PCs. |
| 08:56.03 | valdyn | liable: not going to fix his initrd |
| 08:56.04 | Stevie | you don't have any other computers? |
| 08:56.10 | Parox2 | I have this computer, which is Windows |
| 08:56.15 | Stevie | okay |
| 08:56.19 | Stevie | so that's two computers |
| 08:56.22 | Parox2 | Yes. |
| 08:56.28 | Stevie | you don't have a third? |
| 08:56.31 | liable | valdyn: point |
| 08:56.32 | Parox2 | No. |
| 08:56.47 | Stevie | Have you tried booting knoppix on the windows machine? |
| 08:56.48 | Parox2 | However, off topic, If anyone here would like to buy me a Mac-mini |
| 08:56.50 | valdyn | Assid: apt-get install yaird && dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-foo, reboot, pray |
| 08:57.00 | Parox2 | Stevie: a few years ago |
| 08:57.06 | Assid | one sec.. lemme try sometrhing |
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| 08:57.31 | Parox2 | Stevie: I got my data backed up. Would it be more viable to just whipe it and start over |
| 08:57.42 | Stevie | probably |
| 08:58.19 | Parox2 | Id really like to think its just a problem is modprobe, but it doesnt seem likey |
| 08:58.29 | valdyn | liable: somewhere in his initrd-tools configuration there's devfs set |
| 08:58.33 | Stevie | next time you're at micro center, or compusa, or fry's, or whatever, pick up a damn null modem cable |
| 08:58.48 | valdyn | liable: now i neither have those tools here, nor do i know anything about initrd-tools so i have no fix... |
| 08:59.19 | Parox2 | Thanks for your time and effort, even if i was a pain |
| 08:59.23 | Parox2 | bye all |
| 08:59.31 | Stevie | and repeat after me: "I will not leave myself a box that has neither a dedicated monitor nor some way of establishing a serial console" |
| 09:00.06 | Parox2 | Stevie: I didnt plan on having my modules not load and no networking |
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| 09:00.36 | Stevie | No fscking kidding |
| 09:00.48 | Stevie | Nobody expects that sort of thing |
| 09:01.27 | Stevie | that's why you make sure you have the tools you need to make it work ahead of time, so when it breaks, it's no problem to fix it |
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| 09:03.27 | romulo | hi i just woke up and discovered that my laptop was charging battery, could be happened that during night the power supply of my house went down, there are any logs to discover the hour? |
| 09:03.42 | ghenry | Anyone know of a good way to let a Windows user sync their Samba Home drive to a local drive for working at home? Rsync or something? |
| 09:03.59 | dbi | Hi, what tag should I use for security bug that affects stable and testing only? |
| 09:03.59 | cheal | romulo: $ last |
| 09:04.13 | cheal | dbi: security |
| 09:04.29 | dbi | cheal, even if sid is not vulerable? |
| 09:04.30 | romulo | cheal, will see thanks |
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| 09:04.44 | cheal | dbi: yes, it's still a security bug |
| 09:05.03 | romulo | cheal, is not there |
| 09:05.30 | cheal | romulo: what do you mean exactly? |
| 09:05.40 | dbi | cheal, ok, but how to note that sid is ok? something like "tags: sarge etch" ? |
| 09:05.52 | liable | romulo: acpid logs |
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| 09:05.54 | Assid | okay got rid of the initrd.. that error is gone |
| 09:05.55 | Assid | BUT |
| 09:06.00 | Assid | still stuck |
| 09:06.02 | romulo | cheal, i was sleeping, my laptop ac energy went off for some reason, and i wish to know wich time |
| 09:06.14 | romulo | to verify if it was really down the energy or some problem |
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| 09:06.19 | javier | hola |
| 09:06.22 | cheal | dbi: see Colin Watson's mail from July 2005 to d-d-a about BTS version tracking |
| 09:06.29 | romulo | liable, /var/log/acpid doesnt show anything interesting |
| 09:06.41 | javier | cual es el de español |
| 09:06.45 | dbi | cheal, on my way thanks |
| 09:07.02 | liable | romulo: battery events are what you are looking for. it wont be ineteresting, it will just say its going to battery, going to ac.. |
| 09:07.25 | javier | tengo problimillas |
| 09:07.31 | liable | !es |
| 09:07.32 | romulo | liable, they should be sitting in /var/log/acpid? |
| 09:07.32 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 09:07.42 | cheal | romulo: oh...I guess the answer I gave you wasn't intended for the context you mentionned. sorry, listen to liable's suggestion instead |
| 09:07.49 | liable | romulo: if your computer logs those events, yes |
| 09:08.07 | romulo | liable, and how i will know if it does? |
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| 09:08.19 | liable | romulo: because they will be in the log? |
| 09:08.58 | romulo | liable, well everything i can see is something like that [Sat Mar 18 05:36:01 2006] received event "button/lid LID 00000080 00000026" |
| 09:09.01 | romulo | dunno what it is |
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| 09:09.04 | YogSothoth | I want to automatically backup 50G every day from my production server (Debian - ext3) to a SAN (nfs) mounted in /backup. What's best to do? |
| 09:09.10 | jolly_ | hello iam trying to compile my own kernel, but when i do "make menuconfig" its says that i need ncurses-devel to be runned.. I tried to install that package with aptiude but its still complains |
| 09:09.32 | romulo | liable, and this one received event "battery BAT0 00000080 00000001" |
| 09:09.57 | romulo | jolly_, use make config then |
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| 09:10.12 | Eulex | romulo, look for stuff like executing action "/etc/acpi/actions/lm_battery.sh battery BAT0 00000080 00000001" |
| 09:10.27 | Assid | valdyn ; Stevie: www.pienotech.com/screen.gif |
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| 09:10.35 | Assid | thats what happenes when i get rid of ramdisk |
| 09:10.52 | romulo | Eulex, hmm this file doesnt exists |
| 09:10.59 | liable | romulo: yes, the recieved battery event ones. |
| 09:10.59 | cheal | YogSothoth: rsync cronjob? |
| 09:11.09 | jolly_ | hmmm |
| 09:11.12 | romulo | liable, so it is saying my battery went down this time? |
| 09:11.18 | jolly_ | romulo that worked |
| 09:11.21 | jolly_ | but it looks scary |
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| 09:11.30 | jolly_ | i have to answer alot of question i have no clue about |
| 09:11.33 | jolly_ | :/ |
| 09:11.46 | romulo | jolly_, so you shouldnt be compiling your kernel. |
| 09:12.08 | romulo | jolly_, leave that for who knows how to repply and stick your system safe and fast |
| 09:12.13 | jolly_ | romulo I need it because of i have some problems with my Real tea k soundcard |
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| 09:12.20 | jolly_ | :/( |
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| 09:12.29 | romulo | jolly_, are you sure you need it? |
| 09:12.34 | jolly_ | everything looks ok but i still dont get any sound:/ |
| 09:12.34 | romulo | cant u compile it against headers? |
| 09:12.42 | Zrin | I just hot-swapped an IDE drive |
| 09:12.44 | liable | romulo: well, actually on mine its the ac_adapter events |
| 09:12.45 | romulo | jolly_, installed alsa packages? |
| 09:12.58 | romulo | liable, i will unplug the cord and check |
| 09:13.12 | Zrin | I actually expected the system to crash ... but it didn't |
| 09:13.17 | jolly_ | romulo yeah |
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| 09:13.26 | jolly_ | i can also see the sound icon on the gnome menu |
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| 09:13.41 | romulo | jolly_, so? are u sure the volume is ok? |
| 09:13.45 | romulo | have u run aumix? |
| 09:13.54 | jolly_ | no i have only tried with alsamix |
| 09:13.58 | romulo | liable, looks like this is the eventreceived event "battery BAT0 00000080 00000001" |
| 09:14.02 | Eulex | romulo, yes, look for stuff like received event "ac_adapter AC 00000080 00000000" |
| 09:14.47 | debshine | hey group -- new debian (sarge) install here. have gksudo and gksu installed, but can only run gksu. |
| 09:14.49 | Eulex | jolly_, and alsamixer does? |
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| 09:15.11 | debshine | when i try to gksudo synaptic i get this error: (synaptic:12630): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 09:15.17 | jolly_ | Eulex yeah |
| 09:15.25 | jolly_ | it says "card HDA intel" |
| 09:15.50 | romulo | jolly_, are u sure the connectors are fine plugged in? |
| 09:16.07 | debshine | is there an environment variable i need to set? maybe for root, or sudo? |
| 09:16.08 | romulo | jolly_, and sure theres no sound daemon running or even a unconfigured one? |
| 09:16.16 | jolly_ | romulo its a laptop |
| 09:16.17 | jolly_ | _:-) |
| 09:16.36 | jolly_ | no iam not sure about that how do i find out? |
| 09:16.37 | Eulex | jolly_, and? are the volume settings turned up? |
| 09:16.44 | jolly_ | Eulex yeah |
| 09:16.48 | jolly_ | it works fine in windows |
| 09:17.07 | Eulex | jolly_, I mean, inside alsamixer. also, are they unmuted? |
| 09:17.17 | jolly_ | yeah |
| 09:17.19 | jolly_ | looks like they are |
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| 09:18.24 | Eulex | jolly_, that is, they've got a quite big white/green and possibly red bar, and "OO" written below it? |
| 09:18.41 | jolly_ | yeah |
| 09:18.46 | jolly_ | everything looks fine |
| 09:18.48 | jolly_ | :/ |
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| 09:19.02 | cheal | debshine: as which user do you run gksudo? |
| 09:19.05 | romulo | jolly_, type ps ax and search for the sound daemons |
| 09:19.07 | debshine | i know it's not the debian norm, but i'd like to disable root and use sudo. is this ok? |
| 09:19.10 | Eulex | jolly_, heh, ok. apt-get mpg123 and see if it can play any mp3. |
| 09:19.10 | romulo | jolly_, like esd |
| 09:19.19 | debshine | cheal, as a normal user. the only one on the system |
| 09:19.35 | romulo | jolly_, are u trying as root? maybe it is a permission stuff |
| 09:19.47 | romulo | jolly_, is the user you trying already in the group sound? |
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| 09:20.11 | Eulex | romulo, it's called audio, not sound. |
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| 09:20.28 | romulo | Eulex, yeah, sorry -_- |
| 09:20.37 | romulo | jolly_, do adduser yourusername audio |
| 09:20.42 | romulo | and try again |
| 09:20.45 | romulo | as root, of course |
| 09:21.15 | jolly_ | ok |
| 09:21.17 | jolly_ | :) |
| 09:21.35 | jolly_ | alerady a memeber of autio |
| 09:21.36 | jolly_ | :/ |
| 09:21.38 | Eulex | romulo, are you aware that you provide potential solutions without knowing what the problem is? |
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| 09:22.33 | Eulex | jolly_, get mpg123. try to play an mp3 with it. tell us what happens. |
| 09:22.36 | DevilChaos | hi folks |
| 09:22.45 | romulo | Eulex, yeah |
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| 09:23.02 | DevilChaos | !nerim key |
| 09:23.03 | romulo | Eulex, my bad |
| 09:23.05 | jolly_ | Eulex nothing happens:/ |
| 09:23.10 | jolly_ | i tried that |
| 09:23.15 | jolly_ | to play an mp3 with xmms |
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| 09:23.31 | bodq | hello |
| 09:23.43 | Eulex | jolly_, get mpg123. try playing it with it. also, define "nothing happens" |
| 09:23.44 | bodq | are there and prepackaged vserver kernels for debian? |
| 09:23.55 | DevilChaos | im having trouble with the nerim key anyone? |
| 09:24.04 | jolly_ | ok |
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| 09:24.18 | streuner | DevilChaos: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 09:24.22 | SimonRaven | !marillat key |
| 09:24.22 | dpkg | i heard marillat key is gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 09:24.27 | DevilChaos | ty |
| 09:24.31 | Eulex | romulo, better make him examine why it doesn't work |
| 09:24.35 | DevilChaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:24.38 | DevilChaos | lol |
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| 09:25.22 | jolly_ | I did aptiude search mpg123 and the package is marked "v" |
| 09:25.25 | romulo | Eulex, yeah |
| 09:25.26 | jolly_ | what does that mean? |
| 09:25.46 | streuner | why not read the man-page first? |
| 09:25.46 | Eulex | jolly_, I don't know. I don't use aptitude. just apt-get install mpg123 and that should work. |
| 09:26.17 | Eulex | jolly_, ah, sorry. don't get mpg123. mpg321 will be better. |
| 09:26.41 | jolly_ | ok |
| 09:27.49 | jolly_ | "package mpg123" is not aviable, but is refrred to by another package. This may mean that the package is mssign ohas been obsolted or is only aviable fom another source |
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| 09:27.57 | jolly_ | package mpg123 has no installtion canidate |
| 09:28.13 | streuner | he already told you |
| 09:28.28 | streuner | use mpg321 |
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| 09:28.37 | Eulex | jolly_, as I said, get mpg321 instead. also, mpg123 should be installable. it's available in both stable, testing and unstable. |
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| 09:28.54 | valdyn | !info mpg123 sarge |
| 09:28.55 | streuner | !info mpg321 sarge |
| 09:28.56 | Eulex | jolly_, ah, it's in non-free. get mpg321. |
| 09:28.58 | dpkg | mpg123: (MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player), section non-free/sound, is optional. Version: 0.59r-20 (sarge), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 252 kB |
| 09:29.01 | dpkg | mpg321: (A Free command-line mp3 player, compatible with mpg123), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.10.3 (sarge), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 128 kB |
| 09:29.09 | jolly_ | same messge |
| 09:29.21 | DevilChaos | debian kicks ass |
| 09:29.27 | streuner | jolly_: show us your sources.list in paster bot |
| 09:29.29 | Eulex | jolly_, apt-cache policy mpg321? |
| 09:29.51 | narff | how can i send a warning-message link the shutdown command dose? |
| 09:29.53 | jolly_ | "installed "none" candiante none" version table: |
| 09:30.01 | narff | how can i send a warning-message like the shutdown command dose? |
| 09:30.04 | valdyn | narff: wall |
| 09:30.46 | DevilChaos | !amd64 |
| 09:30.47 | dpkg | amd64 is probably See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 09:31.11 | streuner | DevilChaos: /msg dpkg amd64 works too |
| 09:31.26 | Eulex | jolly_, as streuner said, show us your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:31.44 | jolly_ | yeah just found out =) |
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| 09:31.48 | jolly_ | needed to add non-free too |
| 09:31.50 | jolly_ | :) |
| 09:32.07 | streuner | care to show us? |
| 09:32.12 | Eulex | jolly_, mpg123 is in non-free. but you were supposed to get mpg321, right? which is in main. |
| 09:32.26 | jolly_ | yeah sorry i got mpg321 now |
| 09:32.27 | jolly_ | :) |
| 09:32.50 | Eulex | jolly_, now, get any suitable mp3 file and try to play it with mpg321. tell us what happens. |
| 09:33.21 | jolly_ | i see the |
| 09:33.22 | jolly_ | song's playing, but hear no sounds. |
| 09:33.28 | jolly_ | :/ |
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| 09:35.10 | Eulex | jolly_, was it the same in xmms? the 'position slider' moved, but you didn't get any sound? are both master and pcm turned up? |
| 09:35.29 | cahoot | and unmuted? |
| 09:35.53 | penrod | is there anybody here familiar with resiserfs corruption and repair ? |
| 09:35.54 | Eulex | yeah, that too |
| 09:36.07 | jolly_ | Eulex yeah |
| 09:36.13 | jolly_ | and yes its unmuted |
| 09:36.15 | jolly_ | :/ |
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| 09:37.54 | cahoot | jolly_: you have only one card in /proc/asound/cards? |
| 09:38.10 | nvz | penrod: egrep, and cry. thats about the size of it as I understand |
| 09:38.11 | jolly_ | hmm |
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| 09:38.36 | jolly_ | yeah |
| 09:38.45 | jolly_ | HDA-INTEL |
| 09:38.59 | jolly_ | Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo PRO V2045 WXGA |
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| 09:39.05 | jolly_ | this is my laptop |
| 09:39.16 | cahoot | jolly_: try aplay /usr/share/sounds/*.wav |
| 09:39.24 | sml | !seen golgotha |
| 09:39.24 | dpkg | golgotha <n=fwest@cpc2-glfd2-6-0-cust244.glfd.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 165d 11h 18m 8s ago, saying: 'im setting up dns to host a few domains, i am told that i need separate ip address per domain name for each entry on the dns host provider'. |
| 09:39.32 | penrod | nvz: I hope not |
| 09:40.15 | jolly_ | "playing blabla" |
| 09:40.17 | jolly_ | but still no sound |
| 09:40.38 | penrod | nvz: no straws to grasp onto ? |
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| 09:41.17 | sml | Is IPSEC a nightmare to setup in debian? |
| 09:41.25 | nvz | penrod: not that I know of |
| 09:41.42 | penrod | nvz: thanks kindly |
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| 09:42.06 | cahoot | jolly_:does fuser -v /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p give any output? |
| 09:42.19 | nvz | penrod: developers left the straws out.. something about slowing things down.. heh ricerfs |
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| 09:42.39 | jolly_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:42.39 | jolly_ | Stereo speakers |
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| 09:42.44 | jolly_ | that is my chipset |
| 09:44.19 | Assid | can someone help me with this issue please |
| 09:44.49 | cahoot | jolly_: used alsamixer? |
| 09:45.24 | jolly_ | yeah |
| 09:45.28 | jolly_ | but with no luck |
| 09:45.28 | jolly_ | :/ |
| 09:48.19 | cahoot | jolly_: whats /proc/asound/version? |
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| 09:49.16 | war92 | Are there any CAD programs in Debian's repostiories in Linux? |
| 09:49.24 | streuner | yes |
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| 09:49.52 | jolly_ | I got permisson access denied |
| 09:49.56 | war92 | strankan: name one? |
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| 09:50.22 | Eulex | war92, qcad? |
| 09:51.00 | streuner | !info qcad |
| 09:51.07 | dpkg | qcad: (A professional CAD System), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.0.4.0-1-2.2 (sid), Packaged size: 2966 kB, Installed size: 12500 kB |
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| 09:52.23 | war92 | thx |
| 09:52.39 | Eulex | war92, also, there's varkon |
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| 09:53.28 | streuner | war92: /msg dpkg search |
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| 09:55.31 | SimonRaven | info streuner |
| 09:55.33 | SimonRaven | :P |
| 09:55.40 | lewis | When logging in to debian via SSH, it seems that I have a random delay after typing the username. This can vary from 0s to about 5 seconds - any ideas on it? |
| 09:55.42 | streuner | heh |
| 09:55.51 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 09:56.06 | YogSothoth | cheal: Thank you for your answer, I didn't see it :-) Well no, rsync will copy files as is. And the SAN use nfs filesystem which means that all permissions/owner informations will be lost for all files. So I need a solution where files are firt packed |
| 09:56.17 | SimonRaven | lewis: fucked up nss? |
| 09:56.34 | SimonRaven | load average? could be a number of things |
| 09:57.09 | streuner | lewis: debian to debian? |
| 09:57.14 | SimonRaven | nice little pipe with tar |
| 09:57.17 | YogSothoth | cheal: I was looking in dump/restore but I find it complicated with all these tape things, where I only need to copy to a SAN (well, hard disks). And I don't really get this dump level thing |
| 09:57.30 | streuner | lewis: in this case add the hostname of the server to your etc/hosts |
| 09:57.43 | lewis | nope - windows ssh client to debian. I connect, type a username, press enter, then have to wait either 0 seconds, or a time up to about 5 seconds... |
| 09:58.15 | streuner | lewis: well, fix your windows problems then |
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| 09:58.32 | SimonRaven | install linux |
| 09:58.33 | streuner | likely a DNS issue |
| 09:58.43 | YogSothoth | cheal: And of course, I precised that I am doing this on a production server which means some partitions can't be unmounted to long, because during unmounting, websites are down |
| 09:58.44 | lewis | what does a debian box do, after you have typed a username, but before you enter a password? |
| 09:59.52 | streuner | lewis: depends on sshd_config? |
| 10:00.13 | lewis | I have a default sshd_config |
| 10:00.20 | lewis | apart from permitrootlogins |
| 10:00.49 | lewis | I am connecting on a local network to the machine, think it is trying to resolve a 192.168.x.x IP address? |
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| 10:01.29 | SimonRaven | also depends on what exactly you're talking about. doing lookups for the user name, then fetching the password, getting ready to set up the envirnoment if successful, or deny you if not, ... |
| 10:01.33 | cheal | YogSothoth: I don't know about the persomissions/owner issue |
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| 10:03.43 | lewis | bah - I'll just ignore it for the moment. By the way, if one enters an incorrect username by accident into SSH, is there a way of escaping, or do you have to reconnect with a new session? |
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| 10:04.19 | gilead | hi |
| 10:04.59 | SerajewelKS | speaking of sshd, why are root logins permitted by default? i thought the policy guidelines want useful default configs that err on the side of security. |
| 10:05.22 | war92 | thx for CAD info. |
| 10:05.28 | gilead | how do I grep for specific binary value? Eg. I'd like to find all lines which contain character 0x80. |
| 10:05.43 | SerajewelKS | gilead: tried: grep '\x80' ? |
| 10:05.47 | SerajewelKS | err |
| 10:05.51 | SerajewelKS | "\x80" |
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| 10:06.19 | SerajewelKS | gah.. it's there somewhere.. |
| 10:06.23 | gilead | SerajewelKS: doesn't match :/ |
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| 10:06.58 | gilead | tried octal values, many things, but nothing works :/ |
| 10:07.43 | cahoot | gilead: tried using -a? |
| 10:08.03 | SerajewelKS | gilead: grep `echo -e '\x80'` |
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| 10:08.16 | gilead | cahoot: what would it change? |
| 10:08.35 | cahoot | Process a binary file as if it were text; |
| 10:08.49 | cheal | SerajewelKS: if SSH root login is disabled, you have to SSH in as a random user and su to root in order to SSH as root, which is less practical |
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| 10:08.59 | LakersFan | I am running debian testing, but I want to install the latest versions of firefox/thunderbird. What do I need to manipluate in my sources.list? |
| 10:08.59 | gilead | cahoot: that I know, but what would it change practically? |
| 10:09.03 | SerajewelKS | cheal: but much more secure |
| 10:09.12 | SimonRaven | man grep: Process a binary file as if it were text; this is equivalent to the --binary-files=text option. |
| 10:09.17 | gilead | SerajewelKS: yes!! :) thanks a LOG! |
| 10:09.21 | cheal | !tell LakersFan about esm |
| 10:09.22 | SerajewelKS | cheal: and not that hard for anyone who knows anything about unix |
| 10:09.25 | SerajewelKS | gilead: np |
| 10:09.31 | gilead | SerajewelKS: err... LOT :P |
| 10:09.34 | cheal | SerajewelKS: why do you think it would be? |
| 10:09.45 | lewis | so, is there any way to cancel a password prompt for an incorrect user, so you can reenter the user name? |
| 10:09.46 | LakersFan | you're the shit cheal |
| 10:09.48 | LakersFan | gracias |
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| 10:10.32 | SerajewelKS | cheal: it becomes harder for someone to remotely compromise the server by logging in as root -- since they can't. if they break a user account, that can be detected well before they brute-force the root password from that account. |
| 10:11.04 | SimonRaven | lewis: some prompts you can't. live with it |
| 10:11.17 | LakersFan | shit |
| 10:11.32 | LakersFan | cheal, what was that apt request again? scrollz is being stupid, I'll message the bot myself |
| 10:11.45 | cheal | LakersFan: esm |
| 10:11.49 | LakersFan | gracias |
| 10:12.00 | st0ner | is th building of applications via "make" automatically aware of smp? (iow: does it use all cpus for compiling) |
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| 10:12.21 | SimonRaven | no |
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| 10:12.30 | SimonRaven | er, yes and no |
| 10:12.36 | SerajewelKS | st0ner: use SMP for the compiling process, or in the generated executable(s)? |
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| 10:12.46 | st0ner | for the process |
| 10:12.56 | Eulex | st0ner, make -j4 if you have 4 cpus |
| 10:12.56 | cheal | SerajewelKS: you have to know root's password to login as root (over SSH) |
| 10:12.58 | SerajewelKS | st0ner: not to my knowledge |
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| 10:13.16 | st0ner | Eulex: thanks :) |
| 10:13.41 | Eulex | st0ner, yw :) it will run 4 jobs at the same time. adjust to the number of cpus you've got |
| 10:13.45 | SerajewelKS | cheal: yes -- but if you forbid root logins, they suddenly need *two* passwords, a user and root. and as soon as they get the user password there is a chance you will catch them before they can break the root password from that user account. |
| 10:14.12 | SimonRaven | if they even manage to get there. layers, people |
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| 10:14.21 | cheal | SerajewelKS: a chance of how much? 1%? |
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| 10:14.41 | SerajewelKS | cheal: if you audit your auth.log, it's more like 95% |
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| 10:15.33 | tso_ | hi, jó reggelt |
| 10:15.36 | cheal | SerajewelKS: if you audit your auth.log, it's most likely that you'll not advertise your root password |
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| 10:16.58 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 10:17.12 | SerajewelKS | cheal: advertise it or not, if it's not suitably complex (which is very likely) it could be brute-forced quickly. granted, the type to audit auth.log generally pick pretty secure passwords. |
| 10:17.19 | apt-get | How do I RDP ^^ |
| 10:17.35 | SerajewelKS | !rdp |
| 10:17.35 | dpkg | i heard rdp is an acronym. ask me about remote desktop protocol or reliable datagram protocol |
| 10:17.39 | cheal | SerajewelKS: I agree with you on the granted part :) |
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| 10:17.48 | SerajewelKS | apt-get: to a windows box? |
| 10:17.58 | apt-get | well |
| 10:18.02 | apt-get | hehe |
| 10:18.11 | apt-get | how do I increase the default 2 max conn. |
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| 10:18.44 | SerajewelKS | cheal: i disable root logins just to be safe, and i would certainly recommend it, but whatever. |
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| 10:19.25 | LakersFan | ok, another question that may be appropriate for #gnome (sorry guys, I've been out of a debian, linux for that matter, environment for a few years). Any ideas why the highlight (or any other cut/paste. CTRL+C/V) isn't working with multi-gnome-terminal? |
| 10:20.48 | SimonRaven | highlight, middle click/sh+ins doesn't work? |
| 10:20.56 | LakersFan | nope |
| 10:20.59 | LakersFan | which is odd to me |
| 10:21.04 | apt-get | re-install everything |
| 10:21.06 | LakersFan | because it's always worked in the past |
| 10:21.07 | LakersFan | ahahaha |
| 10:21.09 | LakersFan | fuck you bot! |
| 10:21.11 | LakersFan | ;) |
| 10:21.18 | apt-get | learn the windows way |
| 10:21.20 | apt-get | windows > * |
| 10:21.43 | SerajewelKS | !start an os war |
| 10:21.44 | dpkg | BSD is better than Debian! Amiga Rocks! |
| 10:21.49 | SimonRaven | !kill apt-get |
| 10:21.59 | apt-get | I OOZ WIN 3.11 YAY |
| 10:22.08 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 10:22.18 | LakersFan | my apologies simon, it was the middle click |
| 10:22.23 | LakersFan | holy crap I feel like a tool |
| 10:22.27 | LakersFan | been awhile |
| 10:22.31 | apt-get | You feel right |
| 10:22.32 | LakersFan | how soon we forget... |
| 10:22.37 | SimonRaven | shit happens. no worries |
| 10:22.53 | SerajewelKS | apt-get: do you have anything to contribute besides retarded, trollish comments? |
| 10:23.02 | SimonRaven | no |
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| 10:23.08 | LakersFan | absolutely not |
| 10:23.24 | apt-get | well look at you |
| 10:23.36 | LakersFan | I've been gone from #debian for about 2 years, and I must say, the bots are dumber ;) |
| 10:23.46 | SimonRaven | oooh, i'm so insulted *snored* |
| 10:24.01 | apt-get | "I've been gone from #debian for about 2 years" |
| 10:24.01 | LakersFan | at least more mouthy |
| 10:24.02 | LakersFan | haha |
| 10:24.02 | apt-get | hahahahaha |
| 10:24.06 | LakersFan | see! |
| 10:24.11 | LakersFan | who did that :D |
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| 10:24.26 | SimonRaven | sounds like a 12 year old |
| 10:24.33 | apt-get | heh |
| 10:25.07 | apt-get | You can't tell when someone is trolling |
| 10:25.08 | LakersFan | actually, for an AI, sounding like a 12 year old isn't half bad |
| 10:25.11 | SerajewelKS | apt-get: if you have a question to ask, or want to help people asking questions, please do. otherwise leave or shut the hell up. |
| 10:25.28 | apt-get | no. |
| 10:25.30 | SerajewelKS | LakersFan: please do not encourage him. |
| 10:25.47 | SerajewelKS | SimonRaven: you and me both |
| 10:25.50 | LakersFan | am I missing something? |
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| 10:26.12 | SimonRaven | LakersFan: just means "don't feed the trolls" |
| 10:26.14 | CAiRO | what can be the cause if an apache child process doesn't timeout? i see my /server-status and there are lots of old connection with SS values (Seconds since beginning of most recent request) bigger than 100000 |
| 10:26.19 | apt-get | elitism at it's worst! |
| 10:26.30 | SerajewelKS | !ops apt-get troll |
| 10:26.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: apt-get troll |
| 10:26.36 | LakersFan | so, errr, apt-get is not a bot? |
| 10:26.39 | LakersFan | ahaaha |
| 10:26.42 | apt-get | CAiRO: reduce keep-alive value |
| 10:26.43 | SimonRaven | lemme guess, a slashdot regular too |
| 10:26.45 | SerajewelKS | LakersFan: no, he's a troll |
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| 10:26.49 | LakersFan | ahhh |
| 10:26.59 | LakersFan | lo siento, figured that would have been a reserved name |
| 10:27.18 | CAiRO | apt-get: its set to 15, timeout is set to 120, it happens for http 1.0 connections (without keep alive), too |
| 10:27.19 | SerajewelKS | LakersFan: that was probably part of his intention |
| 10:27.25 | LakersFan | most likely |
| 10:27.30 | SimonRaven | apt-get install troll |
| 10:27.41 | LakersFan | still surprised to see that name not taken by a bot |
| 10:27.41 | SimonRaven | apt-get --pruge remove troll |
| 10:27.42 | LakersFan | ah well |
| 10:27.43 | apt-get | err I am not all those other people, probably apt-get is just common |
| 10:27.49 | SimonRaven | purge* |
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| 10:28.12 | apt-get | CAiRO: try disabling keep-alive |
| 10:28.17 | apt-get | and see what happens |
| 10:28.49 | SimonRaven | CAiRO: lemme guess borked M$ clients that can't close a connection properly |
| 10:29.11 | CAiRO | SimonRaven: well, but why does the timeout not work? it should colse the connection anyway |
| 10:29.16 | apt-get | here you go again |
| 10:29.21 | SimonRaven | eaier to just keep keep-alive on and configure for MSIE clients |
| 10:29.24 | dondelelcaro | CAiRO: are you sure that those connections are still active? |
| 10:29.27 | sml | boo |
| 10:29.30 | apt-get | the SERVER should end the process, not the CLIENT |
| 10:29.49 | SimonRaven | apt-get: don't like what i have to say? /ignore me |
| 10:29.53 | SerajewelKS | apt-get: so patch apache |
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| 10:29.58 | CAiRO | dondelelcaro: yes, the apache child processes keep increasing until the max clients limit is reached and then the server stops working because it doesnt recycle old children |
| 10:30.08 | SimonRaven | apt-get: i was not talking to you |
| 10:30.13 | CAiRO | i mean the number of processes |
| 10:30.27 | apt-get | CAiRO: if you switch off keep-alive it should kill the process straight away |
| 10:30.28 | apt-get | try that please |
| 10:30.37 | dondelelcaro | CAiRO: eh? use the paste bot to paste the output of server-status |
| 10:30.54 | dondelelcaro | CAiRO: also, it'd help if you told us if you were running any cgi scripts on that machine |
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| 10:31.20 | CAiRO | it hosts several domains, some of them are perl/cgi based, so yes, it does |
| 10:31.27 | CAiRO | wait a sec, i'll paste the server-status output |
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| 10:31.39 | apt-get | Also, you could just be getting attacked |
| 10:31.54 | SerajewelKS | probably scripts stuck in a loop |
| 10:32.01 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: that's what I'm guessing |
| 10:32.07 | apt-get | check anyway: netstat -anp |grep 'tcp\|udp' | awk '{print $5}' | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n |
| 10:32.18 | dondelelcaro | apt-get: that isn't going to tell you anything |
| 10:32.34 | apt-get | hmm? |
| 10:32.38 | dondelelcaro | (and server-status will have far more useful information) |
| 10:32.48 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: and sorry for the !ops, but he did look trollish for a few minutes |
| 10:32.55 | apt-get | well if there are hundreds of connections from one IP then you know something is up |
| 10:33.03 | CAiRO | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.07 | apt-get | heh |
| 10:33.11 | CAiRO | seems like 275 connections from this ip |
| 10:33.21 | SimonRaven | check your logs |
| 10:33.25 | apt-get | and now check server-status for that IP |
| 10:34.28 | CAiRO | http://pastebin.com/608823 |
| 10:34.38 | CAiRO | ok, here is it |
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| 10:35.34 | apt-get | err |
| 10:35.39 | apt-get | apache can't kill the process |
| 10:35.42 | CAiRO | i've tried a reload some time ago, that's why they're all in 'G' mode |
| 10:35.44 | apt-get | what user are you running httpd as? |
| 10:36.03 | CAiRO | it can kill them, if i do restart instead of reload it's no problem |
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| 10:36.09 | CAiRO | www-dat |
| 10:36.11 | CAiRO | www-data |
| 10:36.37 | apt-get | so what state were they in before you reloaded |
| 10:36.42 | CAiRO | W |
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| 10:37.17 | CAiRO | sending reply, that's why i was wondering why they need 100000 (see SS column) seconds to send the reply and why the timeout hasn't killed the connection |
| 10:37.27 | apt-get | hosting some big downloads? |
| 10:38.11 | CAiRO | no, actually not, about no bandwidth usage according to the stats |
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| 10:38.40 | CAiRO | it might be some buggy php script on one of the domains but i still think i shouldn't have to fix individual php scripts to make apache kill old connections |
| 10:38.52 | Lamperi | is there a away to get apt back after removing it ? |
| 10:39.11 | SerajewelKS | Lamperi: uhm, and why did you remove it? |
| 10:39.13 | apt-get | download a deb pacakge? |
| 10:39.18 | quitte | download yourself and install with dpkg |
| 10:39.19 | apt-get | package even |
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| 10:39.30 | markit | I've got a dependency problems with debian sid and dist-upgrade, about gnome-media-common package... anyone interested to a pastebin of the output? I've solved installing 2 other packages |
| 10:39.42 | dondelelcaro | !bat |
| 10:39.42 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete ouptut of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run; the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste or #flood to provide us with this information. |
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| 10:40.02 | Zrin | how to add just a single deb file to apt(itude) list of available packages? |
| 10:40.32 | markit | dondelelcaro: was your message for me? |
| 10:40.35 | gilead | Zrin: install it with dpkg |
| 10:40.37 | dondelelcaro | Zrin: use apt-ftparchive to build a Packages.gz file and add your own Release file. Generally you just dpkg -i it if you care. |
| 10:40.42 | dondelelcaro | markit: yes. |
| 10:40.58 | Zrin | I'd like to check dependencies before installing |
| 10:41.25 | dondelelcaro | Zrin: then do the first part of my suggestion, or dpkg-deb -I foopkg.deb; and make sure you've got them installed. |
| 10:41.50 | Zrin | dondelelcaro: thank you |
| 10:42.40 | markit | dondelelcaro: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2161 |
| 10:43.07 | markit | dondelelcaro: as I told, I've solved the probloem, just want to notify packagers about it |
| 10:44.09 | slinn | what's the url for the site that has the list of servers for apt-get? |
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| 10:44.14 | dondelelcaro | !+info libgnome-media0 |
| 10:44.16 | dpkg | Package 'libgnome-media0' does not exist. |
| 10:44.35 | dondelelcaro | !+info gnome-media-common |
| 10:44.36 | dpkg | Package 'gnome-media-common' does not exist. |
| 10:45.04 | dondelelcaro | markit: uh... those packages aren't even packaged |
| 10:45.18 | dondelelcaro | !mirrors |
| 10:45.19 | dpkg | [debian mirrors] use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 10:45.21 | dondelelcaro | slinn: ^^6\ |
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| 10:45.34 | slinn | thanks g |
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| 10:47.04 | SimonRaven | Setting up libgnome-media0 (2.12.0-4) ... |
| 10:47.25 | SimonRaven | sid as of today |
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| 10:47.51 | markit | dondelelcaro: what do you mean? do you want to know the mirror I use in sources.list? |
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| 10:48.22 | Zrin | can I use libaio from sid with testing with 2.6.15 |
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| 10:48.37 | dondelelcaro | SimonRaven: must have just made it in on the pulse, cause it's not on pdo or packages.debian.org |
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| 10:48.55 | crosenbe | the gnome migration is hanging on my thinclient while the network traffic is high, how i can check if packets are lost or if there is a packet overflow on the queue? |
| 10:48.55 | dondelelcaro | s/packages.debian.org/debian.usc.edu/ |
| 10:49.21 | dondelelcaro | markit: in any event, if you could install them by specifying them both, it's not a bug in the packages, it's a best a bug in apt. |
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| 10:49.52 | markit | dondelelcaro: are you a packager/developer? will you take care of this problem? |
| 10:50.20 | dondelelcaro | markit: I'm a developer; if it gets reported again, someone will file a bug. |
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| 10:50.48 | markit | dondelelcaro: ok, thanks a lot for your help :) bye |
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| 10:51.12 | Thanatermesis | xfe has a upgrade now since the last version on ETCH in 2003 but continue having problems of chars in utf-8 :/ |
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| 10:51.22 | markit | dondelelcaro: (btw, I use kde, so maybe gnome users would have those other 2 packages updated in any case, while I have not...) |
| 10:51.33 | SimonRaven | dondelelcaro: yeh. dinstall for x86 was really late today for some reason. same for ppc, but not as much |
| 10:51.42 | dondelelcaro | markit: no, they wouldn't... cause they haven't been put in unstable until today |
| 10:52.10 | markit | ah, ok |
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| 10:56.23 | babyrobbe | *about to install debian* |
| 10:56.26 | babyrobbe | *bbl* |
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| 11:02.43 | teclo- | Hello, when I boot from a floppy with a custom kernel, there seems to be a version mismatch. Here's the error message: |
| 11:02.53 | teclo- | vfat: version magic '2.6.8-2-686 preempt 686 gcc-3.3' should be '2.6.8-2-686 PENTIUMII 4KSTACKS gcc-3.3' |
| 11:03.01 | teclo- | any idea how I can fix that ? I have already added -2-686 in the Makefile, but I can't find out how to change these PENTIUMII and 4KSTACKS thingies... |
| 11:05.27 | cheal | teclo-: presumably that vfat module shouldn't be loaded as it's not built for the custom kernel |
| 11:05.48 | teclo- | cheal: yeah but I get this for all modules |
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| 11:06.17 | cheal | teclo-: so I guess all the modules aren't built for the custom kernel |
| 11:06.30 | teclo- | on the hard disk there's a fresh install of Sarge |
| 11:06.50 | teclo- | cheal: I know... but how can I build my kernel to match the modules' parameters ? |
| 11:07.28 | ptee | hi, anyone knows why i cannot get much package about xfree but xorg? i had broken my x completley. i before that use xfree but tried with xorg but didn't work and i lost my x. xdm also not even started. |
| 11:07.50 | YogSothoth | Is there a way to snapshot a ext3 partition under Debian without unmounting it? |
| 11:08.06 | cheal | teclo-: trying to build a kernel ABI-compatible with stock modules could be hard. you should build the custom modules for the custom kernel instead |
| 11:08.09 | ptee | i cannot get any of x display manager running... |
| 11:08.15 | YogSothoth | And then backup it to a remote nfs |
| 11:08.50 | cheal | ptee: what's your native language? |
| 11:08.57 | ptee | q |
| 11:09.00 | ptee | thai |
| 11:09.15 | teclo- | cheal: Yes but, I can't... this particular computer has a scsi disk on a scsi adapter, and it cannot boot from it directly. That's why I have to boot on a floppy.... |
| 11:09.18 | ptee | exit |
| 11:09.30 | ptee | n |
| 11:09.34 | ptee | q |
| 11:09.36 | ptee | help |
| 11:09.52 | teclo- | heh that was kinda hilarious |
| 11:09.56 | teclo- | that ptee fellow |
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| 11:10.39 | cheal | teclo-: and why does the floppy have a custom kernel? |
| 11:10.56 | ptee | hi again, sorry, i didn't know how to exit from help on irc.. |
| 11:11.04 | djp | how do i prevent oss drivers loading? i have an sb live! soundcard. |
| 11:11.12 | teclo- | cheal: because the Debian stock kernel on the boot.img floppy doesn't seem to contain the driver for my scsi adapter... |
| 11:11.48 | djp | !oss |
| 11:11.48 | dpkg | i guess oss is an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.6 info).. OldSchoolSound |
| 11:11.56 | ptee | btw, how can i exit help on irc after i type /help and it asked, |
| 11:12.02 | cheal | teclo-: OK, so you built a custom kernel that supports that setup and put it on the floppy? |
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| 11:12.06 | teclo- | cheal: boot.img doesn't contain sscsi drivers, they are on the driver.bin floppy |
| 11:12.15 | djp | !alsa |
| 11:12.15 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 11:12.21 | cheal | ptee: which IRC client do you use? |
| 11:12.26 | bartden | hi, anyone here who knows how i can implement XGL into debian and kde |
| 11:12.28 | teclo- | cheal: Yes. |
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| 11:12.39 | ptee | cheal : i grep the one on the console. cause i lost my x. |
| 11:12.49 | ptee | cheal : no idea what it really is... |
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| 11:13.03 | SimonRaven | use the sarge floppies. net-drivers.bin for ppc has scsi drivers, so does the cd-drivers. |
| 11:13.13 | cheal | ptee: well, the answer to your question probably depends on your IRC client |
| 11:13.43 | ptee | cheal : ircII |
| 11:14.08 | cheal | ptee: OK, I don't know |
| 11:14.20 | ptee | cheal : i tried to use /help to list the x channel but couldn't go so far & i couldnt exit from that hell help |
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| 11:14.44 | cheal | ptee: sorry, I don't know ircII |
| 11:14.46 | ptee | cheal : that's all right...i was so curious about xfree vs xorg ... |
| 11:15.04 | cheal | ptee: you said your native language is thai, right? |
| 11:15.14 | ptee | cheal : i lost my x because of trying to upgrade from xfree to xorg |
| 11:15.23 | ptee | cheal : yep |
| 11:15.30 | cheal | ptee: OK... |
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| 11:15.50 | cheal | teclo-: does SimonRaven's suggestion solve your problem? |
| 11:16.30 | USER08016 | ciao |
| 11:16.31 | teclo- | cheal: ah.. wait... |
| 11:16.51 | SimonRaven | what i do is use net-drivers.bin. i use both if i use my sarge cd, since the cd-drivers is missing the scsi stuff |
| 11:17.00 | cheal | ptee: can you try to clarify what you meant by "i cannot get much package about xfree but xorg"? I guess something is wrong in that sentence |
| 11:17.04 | ptee | cheal : why u asked about my native lang? well, i know my english is pooor. any idea about xfree? i tried to remove the xorg & get my xfree back |
| 11:17.29 | SimonRaven | (yes i brought it up with svenl, might've changed since, dunno since miboot isn't in the released floppy images) |
| 11:17.35 | teclo- | SimonRaven: yes but... do you mean I have to boot from two floppies ? |
| 11:17.45 | SimonRaven | ptee: not likely to happen |
| 11:17.49 | cheal | ptee: I asked because there are Debian IRC channels specific to other languages than English, but I don't think there is one for thai |
| 11:17.49 | ptee | cheal : i tried to get the base packages of xfree but apt-get search xfree gives me not a happy result |
| 11:18.09 | SimonRaven | teclo-: no, just 2, then you load d-i modules from another. it's pretty simple |
| 11:18.27 | war92 | # /usr/sbin/apticron -> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! -> opera (using opera's debian repository) - I know I can gpg -recv-keys during an apt-update, but apt-update does not complain, only apticron, how do I fix this error? |
| 11:18.30 | teclo- | SimonRaven: ah |
| 11:18.31 | ptee | cheal : i know : ) anyway, i can understand english, no prob. |
| 11:18.34 | cheal | ptee: it's $ apt-cache search xfree |
| 11:18.49 | teclo- | SimonRaven: and then when I have booted, I can build my kernel ? |
| 11:18.54 | ptee | cheal : yep, i meant that. wrong typpo...sorry. |
| 11:18.59 | SimonRaven | in sarge yeh, but anything later no |
| 11:19.03 | SimonRaven | teclo-: sure |
| 11:19.23 | war92 | anyone know how to fix WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! when under apticron? |
| 11:19.29 | war92 | apt-get udpate works ok |
| 11:19.33 | cheal | ptee: then what do you mean by "not a happy result"? |
| 11:19.49 | teclo- | SimonRaven: I can also boot from the CD-ROM and type "expert26 root=/dev/sda7" for insta,ce ? |
| 11:19.53 | ptee | cheal : try with apt-cache search xfree. what is the base of xfree? |
| 11:20.12 | ptee | cheal : i meant base package.. |
| 11:20.15 | SimonRaven | teclo-: if the machine can boot from cd that is |
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| 11:20.46 | cheal | ptee: the essential packages for xfree? just install x-window-system-core. which release do you use? |
| 11:20.52 | war92 | http://www.archivum.info/linux.debian.bugs.dist/2005-07/index.html |
| 11:21.09 | ptee | cheal : i see in /etc/X11 the X still point to XFree while i couldn't find it cause i installed the base package of xorg |
| 11:21.25 | war92 | anyone use apticron? :-D |
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| 11:21.39 | bartden | hi, does someone have any idea how to implement XGL into debian and kde ? |
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| 11:22.09 | cheal | ptee: which release do you use? |
| 11:22.33 | ptee | cheal : it said i got the newest version.. |
| 11:22.34 | lamp_ | my computer hiternate's when i don't work with it for a while, i hate this because this computer is my internet router so the other computer get no internet. the package apmd and hiternate are not installed. |
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| 11:22.56 | teclo- | SimonRaven: ouch, doesn't work if I boot from the floppy... al l I get is : "Cannot open root device sda7" |
| 11:23.00 | valdyn | lamp_: why do you think it hibernates? |
| 11:23.02 | teclo- | then a kernel panic |
| 11:23.07 | cheal | ptee: which version of Debian do you use? |
| 11:23.12 | valdyn | lamp_: ( which no debian system does by default ) |
| 11:23.51 | lamp_ | valdyn: i don't installed this system, so i don't know the settings are |
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| 11:24.14 | valdyn | lamp_: is it even a debian system? |
| 11:24.19 | ptee | cheal : i don't remember the command to check the system version...i use the package from unstable ... |
| 11:24.37 | lamp_ | valdyn: yes debian sarge, |
| 11:24.57 | cheal | ptee: ouch...sorry but I won't help you if you use unstable |
| 11:25.19 | unlearn | ptee: uname -a |
| 11:25.23 | ptee | cheal : well...it 's more or less the same.. |
| 11:25.39 | valdyn | lamp_: ask whoever installed it? |
| 11:25.53 | ptee | cheal : i think this command is for the kernel version? |
| 11:25.58 | valdyn | lamp_: getting hibernate to work at all isnt trivial for most systems.. |
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| 11:26.25 | cheal | ptee: yes, the command that unlearn suggested is to get the kernel version, which will probably not help us |
| 11:26.46 | valdyn | lamp_: there probably is some custom non-debian scripts doing this and a custom kernel |
| 11:26.47 | lamp_ | valdyn: when i install apmd and run apmsleep it works, i have tested that |
| 11:26.47 | ptee | cheal : kernel 2.6.15, debian 1:3.3.5-9 |
| 11:27.02 | unlearn | k |
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| 11:27.38 | lamp_ | valdyn: it is a debian precompiled kernel i install the updates etc |
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| 11:28.16 | valdyn | lamp_: try 'xscreensaver' |
| 11:28.22 | cheal | ptee: unstable should not be used as a default release by people who don't know Debian well. it's harder to support people using unstable. since we have communication problems, I won't try helping you. maybe someone else will volunteer to help you instead. |
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| 11:28.45 | dw_ | what command can I use to view the kb/s of outgoing traffic at a given time? |
| 11:29.12 | war92 | Is there a way to get the GPG key for deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ testing non-free ? |
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| 11:29.28 | ptee | cheal : that's alright. it is very kind of you that helped me til now. |
| 11:29.36 | valdyn | lamp_: there's probably a million ways to have activated timed suspend.. look if you have some battery monitor type applet runnings |
| 11:29.37 | nvz | I must be getting the best of this cold.. my drugs should have worn off hours ago and I feel better.. :) |
| 11:29.48 | cheal | ptee: thanks, and sorry |
| 11:30.10 | war92 | anyne know |
| 11:30.13 | lamp_ | valdyn: it happens also when i'm running absolute nothing |
| 11:30.29 | valdyn | lamp_: nothing running? no X ? |
| 11:30.40 | ptee | cheal : i am just like the other kids around here, like to try things : ) cheal, don't need to be sorry. i thank you. |
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| 11:31.47 | lamp_ | valdyn: only xdm |
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| 11:32.46 | lamp_ | valdyn: when i do ps aux | grep apm, i find this kapmd is running. |
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| 11:33.32 | nvz | ptee: I can make a bigger splash than you... 'oh yeah? give it a shot?' can-opener! ... 'man that one was huge' you go! 'ah, jacknife!' .. "LUNCHTIME KIDS! I made jelly sandwitches and sliced up some cantilope, I figured you could eat a little food and then maybe play with your cock n ballz for awhile" |
| 11:33.34 | valdyn | lamp_: i dont use apm, maybe its your bios triggering this though |
| 11:33.45 | nvz | heh |
| 11:33.51 | nvz | called us kids :P |
| 11:34.28 | lamp_ | valdyn: okey i will check the bios |
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| 11:34.55 | valdyn | lamp_: kapmd running just means that your kernel supports apm currently |
| 11:36.14 | lamp_ | valdyn: what if i kill that proces? |
| 11:37.59 | st0ner | im using a geforce 7300gs with the "nv" driver for xorg and im having some grafic corruption at the text fields in firefox and in openoffice, its always related to the text cursor and/or a text selection. someone has/had similar probs? |
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| 11:38.51 | jita | ok i have eggdrops running on my server. how do i prevent frequent ddos attacks? |
| 11:39.01 | nvz | hmm I've never even heard of the 7300 how new is that |
| 11:39.11 | st0ner | pretty new |
| 11:39.19 | st0ner | this low-end geforce 7 |
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| 11:39.22 | cheal | st0ner: hum, so you're confident that the issue is specific to the nv X driver? i.e. it doesn't happen with vesa |
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| 11:39.44 | st0ner | yes, if i disable acceleration its gone for example |
| 11:39.52 | st0ner | but thats not an option |
| 11:40.00 | nvz | I'm looking to get a geforce card. my board is 4x agp though I think.. so it wouldnt be worth the money to get a real new one I am looking at the 5200-6xxx series |
| 11:40.09 | jmd | How can I switch windows in metacity using the keyboard? |
| 11:40.10 | cheal | st0ner: hum, what kind of acceleration? |
| 11:40.22 | nvz | though I could take full advantage of teh card if I got a new pc in the future |
| 11:40.49 | st0ner | the 2d hw acceleration, can be disabled via Option "AccelOn" "false" |
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| 11:40.58 | strider | jmd: alt+tab ;p |
| 11:41.23 | jmd | strider: No. Doesn't work. |
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| 11:41.35 | nvz | why would you buy a new geforce 7 and not install nvidia's drivers so you can actually use it? |
| 11:41.50 | nvz | you could have got a tnt2 and used the stock driver, ffs |
| 11:42.08 | cheal | st0ner: OK. since your question is fairly specific, you may prefer asking #nvidia or perhaps #xorg, or even a mailing list associated with those |
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| 11:42.31 | st0ner | cheal: okay ill do that |
| 11:42.37 | nvz | I suggest trying to install drivers and see what happens :P |
| 11:42.41 | cheal | nvz: TNT2's 2D accel sucks |
| 11:42.45 | cheal | :-P |
| 11:42.51 | sussudio | cheal: nvidia sucks |
| 11:42.51 | nvz | cheal: heh |
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| 11:43.25 | strider | jmd: really? what about alt + Esc |
| 11:43.26 | sussudio | get a matrox instead |
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| 11:44.26 | nvz | I am just looking to spend around $50 probably realistically will be little more.. for a card that will work in this shitty old compaq and get me playing videos like dvds normally, and bzflag and other 3d games in debian and I'll be happy |
| 11:44.30 | jmd | strider: No. That doesn't either. |
| 11:44.30 | cheal | a parhelia? :) |
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| 11:44.49 | nvz | I know nvidia 5200 fx ultra I had tested worked fine for all things in debian |
| 11:44.58 | nvz | they are cheap |
| 11:45.13 | strider | jmd: when you say switch windows, what do you mean exactly? |
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| 11:45.24 | valdyn | jmd: alt-tab |
| 11:45.27 | gartt | I thought nvidia was the best nix-compatible choice around |
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| 11:45.39 | jmd | valdyn: Doesn't work |
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| 11:45.52 | nvz | It cant get much worse than what I have now. |
| 11:45.52 | cheal | gartt: for graphics cards? |
| 11:45.58 | valdyn | gartt: nvidia is the best options if you need rather high end hardware 3D accel |
| 11:46.00 | jmd | strider: I mean change their stacking order. Ie bring one to the front. |
| 11:46.05 | nvz | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. ProSavage KM133 (rev 03) |
| 11:46.07 | valdyn | gartt: other than that it is not |
| 11:46.14 | bligg | hi, a question about md5: is it possible that these strings could have the same md5? "i have 50 apples" and "i have 51 apples" |
| 11:46.19 | nvz | whoo hoo blazing video chipset there |
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| 11:46.42 | nvz | careful you might have a seizure with framerates this high.. I can get like 30fps |
| 11:46.49 | Eulex | bligg, they don't. |
| 11:46.53 | cheal | bligg: unlikely. you can figure out by comparing their MD5 sums |
| 11:46.54 | gartt | hmm |
| 11:47.10 | strider | jmd: both should work. alttab/altesc. Check gconf-editor --> /apps/metacity/global-keybindings |
| 11:47.15 | valdyn | bligg: theoretically sure |
| 11:47.28 | bligg | we had this question in a test at school :) then the next question was if its possible that you can make the same md5 if you have like a million of apples |
| 11:47.31 | valdyn | bligg: its a matter of probability ( and very low one at that ) |
| 11:47.44 | bligg | hm ok.. |
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| 11:48.11 | nvz | wtf do apples have to do with it? |
| 11:48.13 | jmd | strider: I don't seem to have gconf-editor. Which package provides it? |
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| 11:48.36 | strider | jmd: are you using Gnome? |
| 11:48.42 | waxiewhite | hello! |
| 11:48.48 | jmd | strider: Yes. |
| 11:49.10 | waxiewhite | good evenin'...i'm back again in the unmanaged world... |
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| 11:49.23 | waxiewhite | coi roco. |
| 11:49.43 | jmd | strider: At least I thought so. I get a splash screen saying gnome 2.1 when I log in. |
| 11:49.53 | waxiewhite | krici nejni drata no. |
| 11:50.14 | strider | jmd: type 'gconf-editor' from the terminal |
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| 11:50.28 | jmd | command not found |
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| 11:51.00 | jmd | Right. aptitude install gconf-editor |
| 11:51.37 | strider | jmd: yes. You probably have just installed gnome-core |
| 11:51.40 | nvz | gartt: thing I like about nvidia is it just works. they've got an all-in-one driver for each OS and no matter what card and what machine you install that and it just works the way it was intended. |
| 11:52.01 | jmd | strider: What should I have installed? |
| 11:52.50 | st0ner | btw: does debian offer the proprietary nvidia drivers? |
| 11:52.53 | nvz | I probably dont know what I am doing, but I've had S3, Intel, SiS, ATI, and Nvidia cards and I only had luck getting the nvidia ones to work properly |
| 11:52.54 | cheal | nvz: except when it crashes your X, or your whole system until you recompile your kernel, of course |
| 11:53.02 | cheal | st0ner: no, they're non-free |
| 11:53.03 | jmd | I have /apps/metacity/general nothing else under metacity. |
| 11:53.08 | nvz | cheal: I've never had it lock up on me |
| 11:53.25 | cheal | nvz: it happened a few tens of time to me |
| 11:53.58 | waxiewhite | if i type, "apt-get update",...will this be enough to update my debian? |
| 11:54.16 | Trewas | cheal: I guess you meant to say that the nvidia drivers are in non-free :) |
| 11:54.43 | strider | nvz: maybe try getting the 9200 something ATI card which works fully with open source drivers. |
| 11:54.45 | madona | waxiewhite: after doing that you need to upgrade. #apt-get upgrade |
| 11:55.07 | cheal | Trewas: yeah |
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| 11:56.21 | strider | jmd: hmm, no global_keybindings etc? you're on sid right? |
| 11:56.37 | jmd | strider: No. I'm on etch |
| 11:57.01 | strider | jmd: still, you should have it |
| 11:57.02 | Sirius_Black | hi guys - debian unstable user here. I am apt-get dist upgrading at the moment and getting a message about LVM2 like this: "Running kernel TOO old Your running kernel is < 2.6.12. lvm2 since 2.02.00 does not work with them" |
| 11:57.06 | Sirius_Black | what shall i do please |
| 11:57.12 | valdyn | st0ner: i think your need to wait for the next driver release of nvidia for proper support for you card. |
| 11:57.39 | valdyn | Sirius_Black: install a recent kernel |
| 11:57.51 | Sirius_Black | valdyn: is that the only solution? |
| 11:57.53 | nvz | strider: I got a 9600 Pro 128 listed at $52 free shipping right now. but I dont have money for one.. heh and I still dont fully understand how AGP works. I am told that if my board supports 4x I should be able to use any size 8x card at 4x bus speed |
| 11:58.06 | jmd | strider: I'm running aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment again. See what happens .... |
| 11:58.06 | valdyn | Sirius_Black: natuarlly not, you could aswell reinstall an not upgrade to unstable |
| 11:58.36 | Sirius_Black | valdyn: reinstall? the reason i use Linux is not to have to reinstall every 3 months |
| 11:58.51 | valdyn | Sirius_Black: its an option |
| 11:58.57 | valdyn | Sirius_Black: do whatever you want. |
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| 12:00.08 | Sirius_Black | what does LVM do any way |
| 12:00.25 | valdyn | Sirius_Black: uh, do you not even use lvm? |
| 12:00.35 | valdyn | Sirius_Black: if that is the case.. just ignore that error message |
| 12:01.05 | Sirius_Black | valdyn: i am ignoring it but the dist-upgrade stops with an error |
| 12:01.15 | Sirius_Black | what does LVM do and can i do without it please |
| 12:01.19 | valdyn | Sirius_Black: hmm, try removing the lvm package |
| 12:01.22 | valdyn | !lvm |
| 12:01.22 | dpkg | it has been said that lvm is at http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm, Logical Volume Manager for Linux, or ask me about lvm_tutorial, or extremely sexy. almost as sexy as Theo |
| 12:01.26 | Sirius_Black | i mean is it safe to remove it |
| 12:01.33 | valdyn | Sirius_Black: yea |
| 12:01.50 | valdyn | Sirius_Black: assuming you dont use it, you really should know if you used it, its not on by default |
| 12:01.52 | nvz | I cant find a Matrox with more than 32mb for under $100 ATI and Nvidia you can get 128-256mb cards under $100 easily |
| 12:02.04 | strider | Sirius_Black: install linux-image-2.6-(686/386/K& etc) |
| 12:02.21 | valdyn | nvz: i dont think matrox cards are decent anyway, old atis are very nice |
| 12:02.32 | strider | nvz: don't go with matrox |
| 12:02.34 | Sirius_Black | strider: 2.6.8.1-2-386 |
| 12:02.50 | Sirius_Black | strider: i mean i am on 2.6.8.1-2-386 |
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| 12:03.15 | valdyn | nvz: you might be able to see visually if your agp slot is appropriate for the card you are looking at |
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| 12:03.23 | strider | Sirius_Black: that's stable's kernel. you're not running Sid |
| 12:03.36 | nvz | I've never gotten an ATI to work.. when I was testing the FX5200 I had an ATI Radeon 9600 and I couldnt get it to do anything but show colored ASCII chars on the screen |
| 12:03.38 | Sirius_Black | strider: I am not? |
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| 12:03.59 | strider | Sirius_Black: install linux-image-2.6-386 |
| 12:04.02 | jmd | aptitude refuses to install gnome-desktop-environment because of unmet dependencies. How do I fix this? |
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| 12:04.15 | valdyn | nvz: xfree86 + selected few ati cards is bad, usually or with xorg its np iirc |
| 12:04.19 | strider | jmd: maybe etch is broken now |
| 12:04.26 | Sirius_Black | strider: which image should i upgrade to then please? it's a 1GHz celeron machine |
| 12:04.39 | jmd | It seems to have been like it for a long time. |
| 12:04.39 | valdyn | nvz: either way 9600 wont get 3D accel from the free drivers, its to new |
| 12:04.41 | nvz | valdyn: as I understand the 1x/2x and 4x/8x are compatible because they are same voltage and socket, just different bus speed. now I thought somehow the board or bios would limit the memory, but I guess the GPU addresses the memory and that shouldnt matter |
| 12:04.48 | setog3 | someone here use adept ? because I can't run adept .. could'not open chache |
| 12:04.55 | valdyn | nvz: the AGP slots differ |
| 12:05.04 | jmd | What do these "Scores" mean in aptitude ? |
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| 12:05.13 | cheal | setog3: ask #debian-kde |
| 12:05.14 | valdyn | nvz: you cant physically fit the wrong type into the wrong port |
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| 12:05.30 | cheal | !tell jmd about bat |
| 12:05.44 | strider | nvz: most 8x cards are backward compatible and so would work fine, though it may not be that worth it |
| 12:06.16 | nvz | I got no accel at all right now on an S3 Pro suckage |
| 12:06.33 | setog3 | cheal, ok thx |
| 12:07.08 | nvz | accell is worth it, then I can play games, watch movies.. |
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| 12:07.58 | valdyn | nvz: maybe something like ati radeon 7500 ( im not sure if thats not mobile-only ) is dirt cheap.. |
| 12:08.27 | valdyn | nvz: meaning, a 9600 is probably more than you need |
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| 12:08.47 | nvz | BZflag 2.0 doesnt work on shitty cards.. they added new lighting, transparency.. etc you need a fairly recent card jsut to handle that |
| 12:09.02 | valdyn | !info bzflag sarge |
| 12:09.04 | Phlexonance | where can I get motif? |
| 12:09.05 | dpkg | bzflag: (a 3D first person tank battle game), section games, is optional. Version: 2.0.2.20050318 (sarge), Packaged size: 7772 kB, Installed size: 10324 kB |
| 12:09.17 | valdyn | nvz: that one? ^ |
| 12:09.21 | nvz | yep |
| 12:09.26 | valdyn | nvz: ill try it |
| 12:09.55 | strider | nvz: a 9200/9250 card would be cool if you can find one. Really cheap as well. The best part is that 3d would work great that too with open source drivers |
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| 12:10.27 | nvz | you can lower settings, but if I buy a card I'd like it to handle that.. right now I can play with no lighting, shading, textures..etc everything completly as low as it goes and its still choppy. and you cant make anything out cause the buildings are all solid white :P |
| 12:11.00 | nvz | strider: 9200 are going for likw $35 on pricewatch |
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| 12:11.49 | strider | nvz: yeah, just check up on them not sure exactly which one is fully supported. but yeah! |
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| 12:14.16 | valdyn | nvz: runs fine on 7500 with all details on.. |
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| 12:14.25 | nvz | bzflag is probably the most intensive video wise app in sarge. and you will get kicked off the server for not being able to render the video fast enough :P |
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| 12:15.27 | nvz | valdyn: hmm the 7500 seem to be selling for more than the 9200s on pricewatch |
| 12:16.00 | nvz | valdyn: gonna have to figure out whats well supported and what will work with my board |
| 12:16.50 | valdyn | nvz: i think scorched earth has higher h/w demands |
| 12:17.28 | valdyn | nvz: hmm or whatever its called |
| 12:17.39 | nvz | I doubt that.. no transparency, its got virutally no action, and the server sure as hell wont kick you for sync issues on video |
| 12:17.45 | nvz | Scorched3d |
| 12:17.49 | valdyn | nvz: yea, true |
| 12:18.08 | valdyn | nvz: not in sarge either way |
| 12:18.18 | nvz | bzflag is realtime scorched3d is turn based |
| 12:18.28 | nvz | !info scorch3d sarge |
| 12:18.39 | nvz | bah |
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| 12:18.58 | valdyn | nvz: i just shot some guy on bzflag, thats all, it looked ok, no idea really how that game is played |
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| 12:19.18 | valdyn | nvz: ( and got shot 10 times.. ) |
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| 12:21.03 | nvz | its got 3 gameplay modes, free for all, capture the flag, and rabbit chace. in freefor all you get points for kills and loose point for dying, in ctf you gain points for kills and capturing the enemy flag and returning them and in rabbit chase, everyone is on a team hunting the rabbit, kill the rabbit to become the rabbit then you get points for kills as the rabbit.. if you kill teammates you die and loose a point. |
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| 12:21.57 | nvz | valdyn: other settings can be changed by the one running the server the game mode, map, and rules like shots, reload time, riccochet, jumping, what types of special flags are available.. rain.e.tc |
| 12:22.01 | YogSothoth | is there a way to set a command alias inline? I mean, just for that session, without editing .bashrc? |
| 12:22.34 | cahoot | YogSothoth: export alias=... |
| 12:22.38 | nvz | valdyn: yeah rain, tred tracks, and moving tank treds are some of the other new visuals. |
| 12:22.39 | YogSothoth | thanks! |
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| 12:23.16 | YogSothoth | cahoot: does it works in a bash script? |
| 12:23.46 | nvz | valdyn: in addion to added transparent walls, new lighting, curved walls are now supported, joystick support.. loads of new features |
| 12:23.58 | YogSothoth | cahoot: just tried export, not working |
| 12:24.40 | YogSothoth | cahoot: http://rafb.net/paste/results/36Wh1K26.html |
| 12:24.45 | cheal | YogSothoth: $ alias foo=bar |
| 12:24.55 | nvz | valdyn: a plethora of new flags were added.. that give players special abilities and even some that disable players |
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| 12:26.03 | McQuaid | hello, i locked some files in synaptic and would like to know which file to edit/remove to get rid of their locked status |
| 12:26.25 | McQuaid | can't access synaptic due to other errors, so need to know via apt, or which file to edit |
| 12:26.49 | cheal | McQuaid: hm what errors? |
| 12:26.50 | bkhl | IIRC there's a proxy that allows you do keep an X application running on a server and re-attach to it similar to Screen. What's that called again? |
| 12:27.03 | Phlexonance | I am trying to install openmotif (because opera needs it) and it tells me that it cant install because it needs xlib6g. when trying to apt-get install xlib6g it tells me that this lib is obsolete and replaced by xlibs and I do have xlibs installed but openmotif wont install |
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| 12:29.22 | McQuaid | cheal i'd just like to get rid of the locked status, do you know where apt looks for those? |
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| 12:29.51 | cheal | McQuaid: I'm not sure which locked status you're talking about |
| 12:30.02 | YogSothoth | cheal: I don't undestand, |
| 12:30.15 | YogSothoth | cheal: $ is not a recognized command |
| 12:30.50 | cheal | YogSothoth: I just prefixed the command with "$ " to indicate it was a command to use in a shell |
| 12:31.44 | nvz | YogSothoth: $ indicates the command should be run as a non-root user, # means run as root |
| 12:32.20 | nvz | its good practice for people to use those as it helps the user know if it should be run as root, but sadly the people who know what they mean will already know when they need to be root :P |
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| 12:33.22 | YogSothoth | nvz, cheal: oh ok I understand that. But this is my point: I want to create an alias in bash script |
| 12:33.41 | nvz | YogSothoth: go ahead :P |
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| 12:34.06 | nvz | YogSothoth: I dont see what the point of that is. |
| 12:34.31 | dvm1981 | I forget the name of it: I want configure one computer(a) so that when my other clients downloand the updates, computer a download it and give it to the clients. |
| 12:34.34 | YogSothoth | nvz: well I going to paste something wait a bit |
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| 12:34.44 | nvz | like I will do BYTE="cut -d , -f " so I can just $BYTE 3 or something anywhere I need that in my script |
| 12:34.53 | nvz | YogSothoth: use a pastebin |
| 12:34.57 | gilead | dvm1981: proxy? |
| 12:34.58 | McQuaid | cheal, in synpatic you can highlight a file and choose 'lock version' and apt will not upgrade that pkg in the future |
| 12:35.04 | McQuaid | do you what i'm talking about now? |
| 12:35.10 | dvm1981 | gilead: Possible :-/ |
| 12:35.15 | Phlexonance | I am trying to install openmotif (because opera needs it) and it tells me that it cant install because it needs xlib6g. when trying to apt-get install xlib6g it tells me that this lib is obsolete and replaced by xlibs and I do have xlibs installed but openmotif wont install demanding for xlib6g |
| 12:35.24 | cheal | McQuaid: yes, but that's for packages, not files |
| 12:35.28 | SimonRaven | McQuaid: it's called hold |
| 12:35.48 | dvm1981 | gilead: So that when i work in virtual machines i not consum to many bandwidht when reinstall it 10x from the netinstall |
| 12:35.49 | nvz | you could do that with alias as well |
| 12:35.51 | cheal | !tell McQuaid about hold |
| 12:36.09 | valdyn | dvm1981: apt-proxy ? |
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| 12:36.44 | McQuaid | cheal thank you, now my problem is i held a fair amount of packages, is there a file i can just remove so nothing is held? |
| 12:36.45 | dvm1981 | valdyn: I think it's more that :-), i go to look to it :-) Thanks valdyn and gilead ;-) |
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| 12:37.53 | YogSothoth | nvz: http://pastebin.com/608933 |
| 12:38.08 | McQuaid | cheal or is there to list the currently held packages? |
| 12:38.17 | McQuaid | cause at the cli, i'm not sure of all the names to put |
| 12:38.26 | cheal | McQuaid: no, you need to edit dpkg's database |
| 12:38.35 | McQuaid | i don't mind doing it one by one, just need the list of em |
| 12:38.56 | cheal | McQuaid: $ dpkg --get-selections|grep hold |
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| 12:39.02 | McQuaid | thank you! |
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| 12:39.08 | gilead | McQuaid: dpkg --get-selections | grep hold |
| 12:39.16 | gilead | oh ;) |
| 12:39.48 | gilead | McQuaid: you can also unhold packages from cli if you want |
| 12:39.58 | McQuaid | is there an unhold all? |
| 12:40.01 | nvz | YogSothoth: try line 4. Timer=$("date '+%H:%M:%S'") then change line 5. to echo "The time is $Timer" |
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| 12:40.19 | nvz | YogSothoth: see how that works |
| 12:40.37 | gilead | McQuaid: I have this little script called 'unhold_package' ;) : echo ''$1 install'' | dpkg --set-selections |
| 12:40.44 | gilead | McQuaid: comes in handy :) |
| 12:40.54 | Phlexonance | I am trying to install openmotif (because opera needs it) and it tells me that it cant install because it needs xlib6g. when trying to apt-get install xlib6g it tells me that this lib is obsolete and replaced by xlibs and I do have xlibs installed but openmotif wont install demanding for xlib6g |
| 12:41.48 | valdyn | Phlexonance: which packages does opera depend on? |
| 12:42.06 | AciD | Phlexonance > you don't need openmotif for opera |
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| 12:42.30 | AciD | I mean, I have opera running, and no openmotif package installed |
| 12:42.57 | valdyn | in fact there's no package named openmotif for debian nor a package depending on that non-existant package |
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| 12:44.28 | YogSothoth | nvz: that gives: http://pastebin.com/608943 |
| 12:44.47 | Phlexonance | well I get "Could not start plug-in executable 'operamotifwrapper'. /usr/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3 Please install Motif." |
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| 12:45.02 | valdyn | Phlexonance: why did you not use the opera debian package? |
| 12:45.27 | Phlexonance | valdyn: because I didnt knew wheter it is the latest version |
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| 12:45.48 | valdyn | Phlexonance: so look at it, at opera.com |
| 12:45.53 | nvz | YogSothoth: are those single quotes or backticks? |
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| 12:46.36 | de | #awerockradio |
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| 12:47.16 | jmd | How do I configure aptitude so that it doesn't install recommended packages? |
| 12:47.20 | nvz | YogSothoth: take out the double qoutes in the parenthesis |
| 12:47.27 | nvz | YogSothoth: will work that way |
| 12:47.34 | Phlexonance | valdyn: hm in fact I did use opera_8.52-20060201.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb |
| 12:47.42 | nvz | YogSothoth: goes against the bash "use more quotes" idea though :P |
| 12:48.06 | valdyn | Phlexonance: and it didnt complain about missing depends? |
| 12:48.13 | valdyn | Phlexonance: ( when you dpkg -i it ) |
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| 12:48.19 | Phlexonance | valdyn: nope |
| 12:48.19 | YogSothoth | nvz: YES! :-) |
| 12:48.19 | geek | hello all |
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| 12:48.23 | YogSothoth | nvz: thanks! |
| 12:48.29 | geek | i have problem with selinux pkg |
| 12:48.36 | geek | can someone help |
| 12:48.38 | valdyn | Phlexonance: are you running sarge? |
| 12:48.44 | Phlexonance | valdyn: yes |
| 12:49.00 | valdyn | Phlexonance: apt-get install libmotif3 |
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| 12:49.08 | valdyn | !info libmotif3 sarge |
| 12:49.10 | dpkg | libmotif3: (Open Motif - shared libraries), section non-free/libs, is extra. Version: 2.2.3-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 1223 kB, Installed size: 3040 kB |
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| 12:49.40 | Phlexonance | valdyn: yes I tried but it demands xlib6g |
| 12:49.55 | valdyn | !info xlib6g sarge |
| 12:50.05 | valdyn | !depends libmotif3 sarge |
| 12:50.07 | dpkg | libmotif3: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libice6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libsm6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxmu6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxp6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxt6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0) |
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| 12:50.35 | Phlexonance | valdyn: I have xlibs installed |
| 12:50.39 | valdyn | Phlexonance: sarges libmotif3 does not depend on xlib6g |
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| 12:50.42 | redloff | hi |
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| 12:51.02 | redloff | how can I forbid browser to remember password via .htpasswd ? |
| 12:51.07 | valdyn | !info xlib6g woody |
| 12:51.14 | dpkg | xlib6g: (pseudopackage providing X libraries), section libs, is optional. Version: 4.1.0-16woody6 (woody), Packaged size: 59 kB, Installed size: 136 kB |
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| 12:51.21 | Phlexonance | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/608952 |
| 12:51.55 | valdyn | Phlexonance: where did you get that openmotif package from? its not in sarge... |
| 12:52.03 | SimonRaven | redloff: doesn't work that way |
| 12:52.10 | gate | hi people |
| 12:52.18 | valdyn | !info openmotif woody |
| 12:52.24 | Phlexonance | valdyn: http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/motif/ |
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| 12:53.25 | valdyn | Phlexonance: that documentaion bullshit |
| 12:53.38 | valdyn | Phlexonance: remove the openmotif package, install libmotif3 |
| 12:53.46 | jmd | Is it possible to restart gnome without quitting exising applications? |
| 12:54.23 | valdyn | Phlexonance: this documentation is probably for woody |
| 12:55.11 | Phlexonance | valdyn: maybe, have removed openmotif and installed libmotif3, so now trying it out |
| 12:55.42 | Phlexonance | valdyn: works, great =) , thanks |
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| 13:00.22 | Phlexonance | my KDE keeps using 1280x1024@60Hz after reboot, though I have set it to 1152x864@75Hz |
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| 13:01.31 | dvm1981 | I try to setup an 'apt-proxy', in the '/etc/apt-proxy/apt-proxy-v2.conf' there are an section [ubuntu] and [ubuntu-security]. Need i uncoment these lines? It's my first setup of apt-proxy (running Sarge) |
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| 13:04.10 | kbrooks | Hmmm. Silly article: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Debian |
| 13:04.27 | Kronoz | hi, i'm having a problem with my network in debian, when boot ifup says it can't read /etc/network/interfaces and whe nit has booted i can ping the router but not telnet into it or anything |
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| 13:04.59 | kbrooks | And pls note that by linking to that article, I do not in any way endorse or vouch for the link or the content of it. </disclaimer> |
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| 13:06.40 | Liquid_Ic | Any tips on installing to a compact flash card? I've tried it with a few different distros and it always gets errors at the partitioning step. |
| 13:06.41 | netfrog | Kronoz: ls -l /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:07.29 | YogSothoth | back |
| 13:07.45 | Kronoz | netfrog: i chmod 777'd it but i'll check again |
| 13:08.26 | netfrog | Kronoz: the contents seem right? |
| 13:08.27 | jazzyboy | hello folks, I a trying to connect to my brand new Nokia 6680 via bluetooth to send a file with obexftp. hciscan works correctly and lists my phone. This is what I do: obexftp -b 00:16:4E:1A:38:BD -p FExplorer_italian_115.SIS |
| 13:08.34 | jazzyboy | and i get the following |
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| 13:08.43 | jazzyboy | Browsing 00:16:4E:1A:38:BD ... |
| 13:08.43 | jazzyboy | Channel: 10 |
| 13:08.43 | jazzyboy | No custom transport |
| 13:08.43 | jazzyboy | Connecting...bt: 1 |
| 13:08.43 | jazzyboy | done |
| 13:08.43 | jazzyboy | Sending FExplorer_italian_115.SIS...\failed: FExplorer_italian_115.SIS |
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| 13:09.22 | jazzyboy | sorry |
| 13:09.26 | abrotman | jazzyboy: don't flood here |
| 13:09.32 | abrotman | !paste |
| 13:09.33 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 13:09.39 | jazzyboy | I didn't intend to |
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| 13:10.13 | jazzyboy | any help anyway? |
| 13:10.20 | abrotman | we didnt' get it all |
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| 13:10.22 | kronoz_ | netfrog: wait a sec, need to boot the box onto debian |
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| 13:10.41 | jazzyboy | I get this message: Sending FExplorer_italian_115.SIS...\failed: FExplorer_italian_115.SIS |
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| 13:13.45 | kronoz_ | netfrog: ls -l /etc/network/interfaces -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 717 2006-03-018 12:49 /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 13:14.13 | netfrog | try to ifup manually now |
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| 13:19.23 | abrotman | !moo |
| 13:19.23 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 13:20.43 | kronoz_ | netfrog: SIOCADDRT: network is unreachable, failed to bring up eth0 |
| 13:20.52 | kronoz_ | sorry took a while |
| 13:21.07 | abrotman | kronoz_: dmesg | grep -i eth .. see eth0 anywhere? |
| 13:21.17 | kronoz_ | http://pastebin.com/608984 |
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| 13:22.07 | kronoz_ | abrotman: yes |
| 13:22.24 | nvz | oh man, just wait till I find an email for proctor and gamble.. I am definatly complaining about puffs with lotion :P |
| 13:22.26 | abrotman | what driver is being used? |
| 13:22.34 | abrotman | nvz: you're still addicted? |
| 13:22.38 | nvz | heh |
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| 13:24.00 | kronoz_ | abrotman: sis |
| 13:24.07 | abrotman | nvz: perhaps if you're addicted to Puffs .. the best idea would be to buy stock in P&G |
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| 13:24.11 | CHaiS | hi |
| 13:24.15 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: TURN IT OFF |
| 13:24.23 | nvz | abrotman: c'mon man, one puff, just one puff.. thats all I need |
| 13:24.24 | CHaiS | i've one problem with gdm and fvwm-crystal |
| 13:24.26 | nvz | heh |
| 13:24.35 | Liquid_Ic | Any tips on installing to a compact flash card? I've tried it with a few different distros and it always gets errors at the partitioning step. |
| 13:24.42 | CHaiS | i can't select it in gdm session select |
| 13:25.19 | netfrog | kronoz_: ifconfig eth0 inet 1.1.1.1 |
| 13:25.24 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 13:25.29 | abrotman | !usb-install |
| 13:25.29 | dpkg | hmm... usb-install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian (sarge) from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 13:26.00 | CHaiS | in witch directory i configure it? |
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| 13:28.00 | kronoz_ | http://pastebin.com/608988 |
| 13:28.18 | kronoz_ | netfrog: that runs without an error but ifup eth0 still won't work afterwards |
| 13:28.53 | kronoz_ | this started happening after the machine lockedup and i reset it :p |
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| 13:29.05 | kronoz_ | shortly after installing vmware |
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| 13:30.12 | netfrog | kronoz_: what's the bridge thingy there? looks odd |
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| 13:31.10 | kronoz_ | netfrog: something to do with vmware i think |
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| 13:31.44 | netfrog | kronoz_: try to unde the vmware changes. looks like they are to blame |
| 13:31.50 | netfrog | s/unde/undo |
| 13:31.59 | kronoz_ | netfrog: it works after i have rebooed |
| 13:32.03 | abrotman | or ask #vmware ? |
| 13:32.03 | kronoz_ | *rebooted |
| 13:32.07 | kronoz_ | gtg |
| 13:32.10 | strider | heh, enabling the bride |
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| 13:32.42 | netfrog | strider: mute the birde ? ;) |
| 13:32.49 | netfrog | *bride |
| 13:32.54 | abrotman | birdie too |
| 13:34.16 | gadfly | what is the kernel source pkg? |
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| 13:35.46 | strider | gadfly: apt-cache search kernel source |
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| 13:36.20 | abrotman | strider: EASY! too easy! |
| 13:36.51 | strider | ha! |
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| 13:41.10 | crosenbe | which software can be used to monitor the traffic of the network interfaces? |
| 13:41.21 | abrotman | mrtg ? |
| 13:41.24 | abrotman | ntop ? |
| 13:41.34 | abrotman | jnettop is fun to watch |
| 13:41.43 | crosenbe | ntop is a console tool? |
| 13:42.07 | abrotman | yes |
| 13:42.14 | abrotman | so is jnettop |
| 13:42.20 | abrotman | !mrtg |
| 13:42.20 | dpkg | i heard mrtg is old, use rrdtools instead. Check out http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html and RRDTOOL is at http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/ |
| 13:42.39 | coder_5 | hi! can debian 3.1r1 boot with / on software-raid 5? (separate boot-partition may be on raid 1) |
| 13:42.55 | abrotman | can linux? |
| 13:43.18 | coder_5 | abrotman, i dont know.. i know it can boot with / on raid1. |
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| 13:43.54 | coder_5 | abrotman, but this is because it uses only one of the two drives (some grub feature) -- at least thats what i know of the matter... |
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| 13:44.05 | abrotman | coder_5: might be in the swraid howto ? |
| 13:44.07 | mmiikkee12 | yay, i'm finally in a working debian system, with a couple of exceptions |
| 13:44.18 | mmiikkee12 | 1. a bunch of xfce themes are missing. |
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| 13:44.19 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: don't you ever sleep? |
| 13:44.25 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman, yeah |
| 13:44.28 | mmiikkee12 | :) |
| 13:44.29 | coder_5 | abrotman, hmm.. i asked because my debian install dialog asks about configuring raid... |
| 13:44.55 | coder_5 | abrotman, if linux / debian cant do with / on swr 5 then i .... |
| 13:45.22 | mmiikkee12 | 2. if i middle click a tab in firefox a page on the white house loads. |
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| 13:45.42 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: check your FF options |
| 13:45.48 | snoopy | Hi there! |
| 13:46.16 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: it's probably actually pasting the last think you highlighted |
| 13:46.43 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman, i haven't highlighted anything about hte white house :S |
| 13:47.26 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: try it .. highlight another URL in FF .. then open a tab .. then try to middle click the tab to close it |
| 13:47.26 | crosenbe | abrotman: thx, works nice |
| 13:47.35 | abrotman | crosenbe: good |
| 13:47.38 | mmiikkee12 | 3. xchat keeps drawing random red lines |
| 13:47.47 | snoopy | does anyone have any deeper knowledge on the initramfs tools ? |
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| 13:48.08 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman, no |
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| 13:48.18 | mmiikkee12 | and yes, it is the copy/paste link |
| 13:48.19 | zOap | morning |
| 13:48.29 | snoopy | morning :-) |
| 13:48.43 | abrotman | snoopy: you should just ask your initramfs question |
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| 13:49.28 | snoopy | abrotman: fine, just didn't want to be impolite :-) |
| 13:49.49 | snoopy | k, thing is i do _not_ want to load some modules that are loaded by default |
| 13:50.03 | abrotman | !blacklist |
| 13:50.03 | dpkg | methinks blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 13:50.12 | abrotman | snoopy: see how easy that was :) |
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| 13:50.20 | mmiikkee12 | ok, fixed the firefox one :) |
| 13:50.30 | strider | mmiikkee12: the middle-click thing is a FEATURE |
| 13:50.30 | snoopy | abrotman: well, not really |
| 13:50.34 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: i use xchat .. i have no idea what red lines you mean |
| 13:50.35 | zOap | snoopy, the best way is just to ask the question, don't ask to ask. that's how we like it. and you are don't being impolite just for asking. that is how we all learn. |
| 13:50.46 | abrotman | snoopy: why not?!?!! |
| 13:50.59 | snoopy | did that, discover does _not_ load them, but it's already done before that from the initramfs |
| 13:51.12 | abrotman | what modules are in question? |
| 13:51.14 | mmiikkee12 | strider, it's annoying. |
| 13:51.26 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman, need a screenshot? |
| 13:51.42 | LsD- | mmiikkee12: the red lines might be marker lines.. check settings\prefrences |
| 13:51.44 | strider | mmiikkee12: isn't it ;) |
| 13:51.51 | snoopy | the eth1394 as well as the 8139too and 8139cp |
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| 13:52.23 | abrotman | snoopy: don't you have 8139 hardware? |
| 13:52.27 | mmiikkee12 | strider, in about:config change middleMouse.contentLoadURL to false |
| 13:53.00 | snoopy | abrotman: i do have a 8139too card, but it's _never_ used and always fks around with my net settings |
| 13:53.24 | abrotman | snoopy: but initrd won't load that .. initrd is only supposed to load stuff that is required to mount / |
| 13:53.39 | abrotman | snoopy: are you running udev? |
| 13:53.48 | mmiikkee12 | ok, problem 3 fixed |
| 13:53.55 | strider | mmiikkee12: yeah i know. i changed that here long back ;) |
| 13:53.56 | abrotman | by installing gimp ? |
| 13:54.03 | mmiikkee12 | change marker line color to be the same as the bg colot |
| 13:54.05 | mmiikkee12 | *color |
| 13:54.17 | mmiikkee12 | strider, you knew and didn't tell me? |
| 13:54.18 | mmiikkee12 | :P |
| 13:54.23 | LsD- | mmiikkee12: just turn show marker line off |
| 13:54.34 | mmiikkee12 | whatever... |
| 13:54.38 | snoopy | abrotman: yes, udev is running |
| 13:54.38 | mmiikkee12 | now, problem 1 |
| 13:54.54 | abrotman | snoopy: i suspect udev is loading your modules .. not initrd |
| 13:55.02 | snoopy | abrotman: and i'm absolutely sure it's loaded from initramfs |
| 13:55.04 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: use blackbox .. problem solved |
| 13:55.09 | strider | mmiikkee12: i just read that. it's fun to see reactions to that FEATURE(TM) |
| 13:55.10 | coder_5 | can debian boot wiht / on software-raid 5? the raid-howto states it works at least with booting from a ramdisk. but i suspect it might work by just telling lilo (or grub) about / beeing on /dev/md0 or whatever... |
| 13:55.20 | coder_5 | anyone using / on sw raid 5? |
| 13:55.28 | abrotman | snoopy: can you paste your dmesg somewhere? |
| 13:55.30 | xoz | snoopy: create a ramfs without those mods |
| 13:55.31 | mmiikkee12 | where the f*** are my xfce themes? |
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| 13:55.43 | snoopy | i already modified the "init" in the initrd file, made it do some output, and it _was_ loaded then |
| 13:55.52 | snoopy | abrotman: where (#flood ?) |
| 13:56.10 | abrotman | !paste |
| 13:56.11 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 13:56.17 | xoz | snoopy: what ramfs you use? yaird? |
| 13:56.20 | snoopy | tought so :-) |
| 13:56.36 | snoopy | xoz: initramfs-tools |
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| 13:56.50 | abrotman | snoopy: what kernel? |
| 13:56.52 | mmiikkee12 | hmm |
| 13:57.21 | abrotman | guess i'll see when he pastes |
| 13:57.25 | xoz | snoopy: i think in the config of that tool, you can specify the mods and create your own initrd image again. |
| 13:57.27 | mmiikkee12 | what should i install now? :) |
| 13:57.29 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: install kde .. problem solved |
| 13:57.40 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman, XD |
| 13:57.43 | mmiikkee12 | i like xfce |
| 13:57.48 | abrotman | xoz: but initrd shouldn't be loading network drivers should it? |
| 13:57.51 | mmiikkee12 | but i hate the default theme |
| 13:58.10 | mmiikkee12 | how do i get the rest of the xfwm4-themes package to show up? |
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| 13:58.34 | strider | mmiikkee12: #xfce maybe |
| 13:58.40 | snoopy | abrotman: sure it should, if used with nfs |
| 13:58.45 | xoz | abrotman: but usually, initrd loads most of the modules in its default config. i think the directive *most* in the config of initramfs. |
| 13:58.45 | mmiikkee12 | nobody there knows either :S |
| 13:58.53 | abrotman | !info xfce4-themes sarge |
| 13:58.59 | dpkg | xfce4-themes: (Theme files for Xfce4), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.0.6-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 323 kB, Installed size: 911 kB |
| 13:59.00 | xoz | abrotman: maybe for network booting |
| 13:59.00 | snoopy | (which is not hte case here, but that's the payoff for "generic" ;-) |
| 13:59.21 | abrotman | xoz: but blacklisting should be obeyed |
| 13:59.27 | gadfly | i need to compile a newer alsa for this box |
| 13:59.39 | snoopy | i will do some more research here, thought that there might be an easy way to ban modules from being loaded... |
| 13:59.49 | mmiikkee12 | abrotman, that doesn't help |
| 13:59.53 | abrotman | snoopy: the easy and shitty way .. rename them |
| 13:59.55 | mmiikkee12 | and i have etch ;) |
| 14:00.03 | abrotman | it's the same package name |
| 14:00.09 | mmiikkee12 | some of the themes show up |
| 14:00.14 | mmiikkee12 | it is installed |
| 14:00.19 | xoz | abrotman: yeah, it should consult blacklisting during the making of the image but i don't really know if the script obeys it. maybe yaird but i don't know with the other two. |
| 14:00.19 | snoopy | abrotman: that's what i wanted to avoid.. |
| 14:00.21 | snoopy | thnx anyway |
| 14:00.26 | coder_5 | how much space should be available for / on a debian server? |
| 14:00.28 | abrotman | snoopy: what kernel is this ? |
| 14:00.32 | strider | gadfly: the headers would have been enough instead of the kernel source |
| 14:00.41 | coder_5 | i have 15 gb for gentoo desktop.. |
| 14:00.46 | snoopy | sid, 2.6.15-1 |
| 14:00.47 | abrotman | coder_5: what kind of server? nad what other partitions ? |
| 14:00.48 | gadfly | ok, i have the headers pkg but not the src |
| 14:00.56 | abrotman | snoopy: then you're using yaird |
| 14:01.01 | strider | gadfly: no need |
| 14:01.04 | coder_5 | abrotman, a fileserver with 1TB on raid5 |
| 14:01.05 | mmiikkee12 | ls /usr/share/themes |wc -l |
| 14:01.06 | abrotman | snoopy: that was why xoz asked you earlier |
| 14:01.09 | mmiikkee12 | 104 |
| 14:01.16 | coder_5 | abrotman, samba and apache, not more. |
| 14:01.20 | louwill | How do I adjust the time on my debian clock? |
| 14:01.22 | mmiikkee12 | so why do only 17 show up? |
| 14:01.22 | abrotman | is that all ... |
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| 14:01.38 | abrotman | !tell louwill about ntp |
| 14:01.52 | coder_5 | abrotman, it's just like an external harddisk for a windows network.. :-) |
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| 14:02.12 | louwill | how ntp works? |
| 14:02.15 | gadfly | strider, thanks |
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| 14:02.28 | wireddd | coder_5, nas? |
| 14:02.43 | abrotman | xoz: are there extra steps for blacklisting iwth yaird? |
| 14:02.55 | mmiikkee12 | louwill: |
| 14:02.59 | mmiikkee12 | !google ntp |
| 14:03.05 | dpkg | Google says ntp is at http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/ or http://www.ntp.org/jump.html?link=bugs.ntp.isc.org/ or http://www.ntp.org/jump.html?link=ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Main/SoftwareDownloads or http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/ |
| 14:03.16 | louwill | forget it |
| 14:03.23 | coder_5 | wireddd, yeah, it's practical a nas. |
| 14:03.48 | abrotman | coder_5: anyways .. is / the only partition ? |
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| 14:04.15 | louwill | I dont understand the instructions |
| 14:04.20 | strider | sid uses yaird? |
| 14:04.28 | coder_5 | abrotman, i decided one /boot, one / and one for the storage array (/array). |
| 14:04.29 | xoz | abrotman: so far, i haven't seen the config to do this. template.cfg seems only about rules for mounting/device creation. it does all the detection automatically... the irony of fully automated system. |
| 14:05.05 | coder_5 | abrotman, /boot on sw-raid1, the others on raid5 |
| 14:05.26 | coder_5 | (hope this works out) |
| 14:05.36 | wireddd | coder_5, I have basically the same setup on a development webserver and I am only using 885 MB |
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| 14:05.46 | xoz | abrotman: ah, /etc/yaird/Defaults.cfg can be configure to load specific mods. |
| 14:05.49 | abrotman | xoz: those bastards! |
| 14:05.51 | wireddd | but that includes the website and everything |
| 14:05.54 | abrotman | xoz: what about not load ? :) |
| 14:06.15 | abrotman | coder_5: if you run LVM .. you can expand later? |
| 14:06.16 | inetd | what do you guys think of gnome 2.14? |
| 14:06.27 | abrotman | i'll let you know when it hits etch |
| 14:06.45 | xoz | abrotman: yeah, good question:) |
| 14:06.45 | wireddd | I thought it did |
| 14:06.54 | coder_5 | wireddd, ahh.. so i will reserve, say, 2 gb total for /. thankyou! |
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| 14:07.19 | coder_5 | abrotman, i need raid5 for the array, because of disk-failure. |
| 14:07.23 | abrotman | coder_5: HOW MUCH? |
| 14:07.36 | abrotman | 2GB .. for all of / and /usr and /var ? |
| 14:07.38 | Snadder | hi.. I just got my new Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS... but when I run alsaconf.. no sound card is found |
| 14:07.48 | coder_5 | abrotman, yes.. |
| 14:07.51 | wireddd | coder_5, yeah that should be plenty. as long as you don't go installing gui apps |
| 14:07.56 | abrotman | coder_5: not enough space IMO |
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| 14:08.16 | coder_5 | wireddd, no, mc is the most gui like app i'm going to install. |
| 14:08.19 | abrotman | coder_5: depending on what you intend to log etc ... |
| 14:08.27 | inetd | Snadder: use OSS? |
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| 14:08.42 | coder_5 | abrotman, hmm.. the box should run unattended for a few years... |
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| 14:08.52 | wireddd | what I mean is no, X, gnome, kde, etc. |
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| 14:09.00 | abrotman | coder_5: what about security updates? |
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| 14:09.15 | Snadder | inetd, I use 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 14:09.23 | coder_5 | wireddd, sure. there will be no x on the box. and ncurses is small |
| 14:09.26 | Snadder | inetd, ant not oss.. |
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| 14:09.59 | xoz | abrotman: bad thing is, the ramfs creation has its own config for loading mods different and indpendent of other files like blacklists used by discover or hotplug. i think they should share common config.. but realities..... |
| 14:10.12 | coder_5 | abrotman, hmm.. this thing runs in the intranet.. if some extreme danger is pressing, i guess i'll do a update.. |
| 14:10.22 | inetd | Snadder: do you have snd-ca0106 module? |
| 14:10.23 | snoopy | abrotman: sorry, system hang (don't like CD burning...) |
| 14:10.23 | Snadder | inetd, I just had another soundcard.. which didnt work wery well.. something wrong with it.. but atleast alsaconf found it. |
| 14:10.30 | abrotman | coder_5: i'd go a bit higher |
| 14:10.31 | Snadder | inetd, let me check |
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| 14:10.37 | coder_5 | abrotman, so 5gb is a better value for / /var and /usr... ? |
| 14:10.41 | abrotman | snoopy: it's ok .. we solved your problem .. too bad you missed it! |
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| 14:10.48 | coder_5 | abrotman, what would you recommend? |
| 14:10.50 | snoopy | abrotman: no, i am definitely not using yarid |
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| 14:11.03 | abrotman | snoopy: did you compile your ownkernel ? |
| 14:11.18 | abrotman | coder_5: 5GB sounds more reasonable .. and 5GB out of 1TB .. is nothing |
| 14:11.21 | _joey | how do I extract/convert .bin/.cue files ? |
| 14:11.28 | inetd | Snadder: you need that module for your audigy card to work if u r using alsa |
| 14:11.30 | Snadder | inetd, all I could find was "/lib/modules/2.4.27-2-686/updates/alsa/snd-ca0106.o" |
| 14:11.33 | abrotman | coder_5: what FS will you use for the /shared-stuff/ ? |
| 14:11.41 | xoz | snoopy: yeah, yaird and initramfs-tools are ok in latest kernel. read the doc about that tool and pray there is a command for blacklisting mods. |
| 14:11.52 | Snadder | inetd, ok.. how do I get that module.. I guess I dont have it.. also tried to modprobe it |
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| 14:12.04 | pippijn | hi all |
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| 14:12.12 | coder_5 | abrotman, for the /array i'll use reiser, for all other stuff good ol' ext2 |
| 14:12.14 | snoopy | xoz: not with the one i use |
| 14:12.14 | T_VoiD | _joey: cdrdao can handle it |
| 14:12.15 | Snadder | inetd, I only found that module in the 2.4 kernel.. which I dont use |
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| 14:12.18 | xoz | snoopy: otherwise, just remove the module from /lib/modules |
| 14:12.19 | inetd | Snadder: well if you dont have it you need to compile it then |
| 14:12.22 | snoopy | will try yaird |
| 14:12.26 | abrotman | coder_5: probably go with ext3 .. but close enough |
| 14:12.30 | pippijn | did anyone set up selinux on etch before? |
| 14:12.33 | Snadder | inetd, sure.. but from where? |
| 14:12.39 | abrotman | snoopy: if you're using a debian 2.6.15 .. you're already using yaird |
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| 14:12.53 | inetd | Snadder: download the kernel source and compile it from there |
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| 14:12.56 | coder_5 | wireddd, abrotman thanx! |
| 14:13.17 | morphine | anyone here that manages or knows about the debian php4 packages? they seem to have a different behaviour from standard regarding file includes |
| 14:13.24 | _joey | T_VoiD I don't need to recorord the bin/cue file. I only want extract the contents of it on dd |
| 14:13.25 | Snadder | inetd, do I need to compile the whole kernel?.. |
| 14:13.27 | abrotman | snoopy: oh .. i guess you don't HAVE to be .. |
| 14:13.29 | xoz | !depends linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 14:13.33 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6.15-1-686: depends on module-init-tools (>= 0.9.13), initramfs-tools | yaird | linux-initramfs-tool |
| 14:13.38 | azeem | morphine: did you read README.Debian? |
| 14:13.43 | azeem | it might be documented in ther |
| 14:13.44 | azeem | e |
| 14:13.52 | morphine | that would be present in what directory? |
| 14:14.00 | inetd | Snadder: no...just select the module you want and do a make modules |
| 14:14.02 | azeem | /usr/share/doc/<package>/ |
| 14:14.05 | Snadder | inetd, and will that module work if I get the module from the latest kernel.. into my current kernel |
| 14:14.09 | snoopy | abrotman: no, i definitely did _not_ have the package installed, and i did some reading on the initrd alternatives in debian and thus know that initramfs-tools is fine too |
| 14:14.12 | xoz | snoopy: maybe one of those depends support blacklisting. see ^^^ |
| 14:14.24 | Snadder | inetd, OK. |
| 14:14.26 | morphine | azeem: will try to find, thanks |
| 14:14.27 | coder_5 | wireddd, just to make sure: you run a debian with / on sw-raid5 ? did you need to create a ramdisk or a special initrd? because i thing (from reading the raid howto) that this is no more necesarry with new installs. |
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| 14:14.58 | snoopy | xoz: that's why i'm installing yaird right now |
| 14:15.02 | T_VoiD | _joey: well usually the content isn't "simple" content if using this format was done instead of using a .iso |
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| 14:15.23 | _joey | there's a utility I can't remember the name of it |
| 14:15.24 | snoopy | however, on debian wiki it's not recommended as it don't support as many things stable as initramfs |
| 14:15.28 | inetd | Snadder: no |
| 14:15.32 | _joey | it converts bin/cue into iso |
| 14:16.10 | Snadder | inetd, ok.. so I have to download the kernel version I use.. |
| 14:16.13 | inetd | snoopy: which debian wiki you looking at? |
| 14:16.19 | _joey | gotcha |
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| 14:16.28 | _joey | bchunk it's called |
| 14:16.28 | nicolas_1 | hi all |
| 14:16.29 | xoz | snoopy: im afraid yaird is more automated and use autodetection well :) |
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| 14:16.48 | morphine | azeem: already took a look, nothing mentioned there. do you know the basics about php? |
| 14:16.50 | inetd | Snadder: if you want to compile only that module yes |
| 14:17.07 | xoz | snoopy: can you give the link for the wiki? |
| 14:17.11 | azeem | morphine: no, not at all |
| 14:17.12 | wireddd | coder_5, no I have hardware raid |
| 14:17.17 | snoopy | inetd: dunno, found it when i was searching for initramfs tools, there's a link directly in the package description there i think |
| 14:17.23 | snoopy | xoz: one sec |
| 14:17.44 | morphine | damn... it's just that there's this strange behaviour regarding including files that seems to be present (AFAIK) in SuSE and Debian PHP4 packages |
| 14:17.58 | T_VoiD | _joey: grats :) |
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| 14:18.08 | snoopy | #include <unistd.h> |
| 14:18.10 | azeem | morphine: maybe if you described the behaviour, somebody familiar with php in here could diagnose |
| 14:18.11 | snoopy | sorry |
| 14:18.14 | snoopy | that was wrong |
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| 14:18.30 | snoopy | http://wiki.debian.org/InitrdReplacementOptions |
| 14:18.34 | snoopy | that's where that is |
| 14:18.38 | coder_5 | wireddd, hmm. that's a completely other story then. since one of my hw-raids blowed up and rendered all disks logicaly useless i deeply distrust hw-raid controllers. |
| 14:18.39 | morphine | well it's pretty simple. http://pastebin.com/608981 <-- this works in php4, doesn't in php5. after talking with the php4, it seems it wasn't even supposed to work in php4 |
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| 14:19.02 | wireddd | coder_5, yeah I have had some issues with them in the past too |
| 14:19.11 | snoopy | ok, but i really need to go now, shops closin in an hour and i need to get stuff for the weekend.. |
| 14:19.18 | pippijn | brb |
| 14:19.20 | abrotman | morphine: why shouldn't that work? |
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| 14:19.31 | pc_tony | Hi, I have an exim4 question, am I best off asking it in here or elsewhere? its a simple relay question (i think) |
| 14:19.36 | snoopy | xoz: c ya later pbly, need to hurry, sorry! |
| 14:19.36 | coder_5 | wireddd, if one does not needs the speed, sw raid on such controllers in 'disk' mode seems much more secure to me. |
| 14:19.40 | morphine | because the php standard seems to work otherwise |
| 14:19.43 | abrotman | pc_tony: is it with debian ? |
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| 14:19.48 | snoopy | abrotman: thnx to you too,will come back, but need to hurry |
| 14:19.51 | pc_tony | it is, om sarge |
| 14:19.58 | abrotman | morphine: you have two includes .. and an echo ... |
| 14:20.06 | abrotman | pc_tony: ask |
| 14:20.07 | pc_tony | i have been a postfix man for years, and have recently decided to move to eim (many reasons) |
| 14:20.24 | morphine | abrotman: in php5 (for instance), the third include will fail. in the debian php4, it works |
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| 14:20.38 | streuner_ | !start a MTA war |
| 14:20.38 | dpkg | sendmail is a spam magnet |
| 14:20.39 | Snadder | inetd, its not possible to get a newer debian stock kernel also with that module? |
| 14:20.42 | abrotman | morphine: your paste has only two includes |
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| 14:20.54 | morphine | err... "second include" :) |
| 14:21.11 | abrotman | morphine: uhm .. i don't see why it wouldn't work |
| 14:21.20 | mmiikkee12 | !start an editor war |
| 14:21.20 | dpkg | pico bites |
| 14:21.22 | pc_tony | abrotman: i have set up AUTH, and its eesm fine. when I send the message it appears that exim is appending either the hostname/unqualified doman name to the outgoign mail... |
| 14:21.25 | morphine | the second include will fail because it seems that php5 and the "standard" php4 don't allow for relative includes regarding previous stuff |
| 14:21.26 | abrotman | morphine: is that the whole file ? |
| 14:21.31 | basix | emacs sucks |
| 14:21.35 | inetd | Snadder: you should be able to |
| 14:21.38 | abrotman | pc_tony: wait .. i don't use exim .. ask the channel :) |
| 14:21.39 | mmiikkee12 | dpkg: true, but nano is good |
| 14:21.39 | dpkg | mmiikkee12: what are you talking about? |
| 14:21.40 | Zugschlus | !start an editor war |
| 14:21.41 | dpkg | vim sucks |
| 14:21.49 | mmiikkee12 | dpkg: right on! |
| 14:21.49 | pc_tony | abrotman: sorry |
| 14:21.49 | dpkg | of course i am |
| 14:21.52 | morphine | abrotman: that would be 3 separate files, one.php, mydir/two.php, and mydir/three.php |
| 14:22.01 | _joey | hmmm |
| 14:22.09 | pc_tony | i have set up AUTH, and its eesm fine. when I send the message it appears that exim is appending either the hostname/unqualified doman name to the outgoign mail... |
| 14:22.17 | streuner_ | Zugschlus: do you highlight any *specific* questions?... |
| 14:22.26 | xoz | !vim |
| 14:22.26 | dpkg | hmm... vim is the only true editor, or does syntax highlighting, has graphical X interface. Extremely popular vi clone that does syntax highlighting or don't forget to get .vimrc file from http://www.vim.org or the best thing since sliced bread, an editor that rocks your socks!!!, or something very cool, said because we need to have as long a block of text as the emacs factoid |
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| 14:22.37 | abrotman | morphine: then i'm even more confused why you think it shouldn't work :) |
| 14:22.42 | wireddd | morphine don't know I haven't migrated to php5 from 4 yet so I couldn't help you |
| 14:22.42 | mmiikkee12 | ahem... |
| 14:22.45 | mmiikkee12 | !nano |
| 14:22.45 | dpkg | methinks nano is at http://www.nano-editor.org/, or a DFSG-free alternative to pico, or 10^-9, or for old koreans |
| 14:22.46 | Snadder | inetd, you know about any apt mirror with which provides abit newer kernels for sarge.... like that? |
| 14:22.47 | Zugschlus | streuner_: I hilight exim, clamav, zugschlus and my real name |
| 14:23.05 | pc_tony | HI, any exim gurus knocking about ? |
| 14:23.06 | mmiikkee12 | !no, nano is at http://www.nano-editor.org/, or a DFSG-free alternative to pico, or 10^-9 |
| 14:23.11 | morphine | abrotman: I'm not saying it shouldnt... the fact is... on debian php4 it works, on suse php4 it works, on debian php5 it *doesnt*, or anyone else's php4, for that reason |
| 14:23.15 | Zugschlus | pc_tony: no meta questions |
| 14:23.17 | Zugschlus | !meta |
| 14:23.20 | mmiikkee12 | i don't like the old korean part ;) |
| 14:23.21 | Zugschlus | !metaquestion |
| 14:23.23 | morphine | and I've been doing stuff that way for years |
| 14:23.27 | streuner_ | !real question |
| 14:23.27 | dpkg | Please tell us what the real problem is instead of wasting our time asking questions about things that you think are related to the problem. If you don't, you're just wasting your time and ours. [Far too often what you think is related to the problem actually isn't or won't help you solve your problem at all.] |
| 14:23.28 | mmiikkee12 | !anyone |
| 14:23.29 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 14:23.35 | Zugschlus | ah |
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| 14:23.41 | norton | Is it possible to determine in linux which type of memory you have? like SDRAM or DDR ? |
| 14:23.46 | Zugschlus | norton: no |
| 14:23.52 | abrotman | morphine: so it only works on machines you control ? :) |
| 14:23.57 | mmiikkee12 | !log |
| 14:23.57 | dpkg | Yeah, big guy, show me your /var/log!, or "It's /var/log, /var/log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood! It's /var/log, /var/log, it's better than bad it's good!" |
| 14:24.00 | abrotman | norton: no |
| 14:24.03 | inetd | Snadder: apt-cache search ^kernel-image |
| 14:24.05 | abrotman | mmiikkee12: come on |
| 14:24.12 | mmiikkee12 | sorry :P |
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| 14:24.15 | norton | The only way is to look at the hardware? |
| 14:24.23 | morphine | abrotman: it would be nice, but this whole deal came along when I tried to upgrade to php5, even controlling it :) |
| 14:24.32 | abrotman | norton: you can look at the CPU and make a reasonable guess :) |
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| 14:24.39 | Snadder | inetd, I already did that.. only got kernel-image-2.6.8-2.. which is what I already use. |
| 14:24.51 | abrotman | morphine: could be an include setting in your php4.ini ? |
| 14:25.06 | streuner_ | !ask |
| 14:25.06 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 14:25.19 | norton | ok thanks |
| 14:25.32 | abrotman | norton: cat /proc/cpuinfo ... what kind of CPU is it ? |
| 14:25.34 | AciD | anybody here using yakuake 2.7.3 experience |
| 14:25.37 | morphine | abrotman: that would be where I first looked. it isn't. the php.ini files are exactly the same, disregarding a few php5-specific settings |
| 14:25.38 | AciD | oops |
| 14:25.39 | streuner_ | !listvals ask |
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| 14:25.50 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'ask' by value (15 of 893): artsbuilder ;; ask about ask ;; cctld ;; essentially debian ;; etch upgade kernel ;; kde2 ;; kde3 ;; man interfaces ;; sid upgade kernel ;; sing sid ;; user accessible ntfs ;; userfriendly.org ;; woody install warnings ;; woody->etch ;; woody->sid. |
| 14:25.58 | norton | abrotman: Pentium II |
| 14:25.58 | abrotman | streuner_: are you broken ? |
| 14:26.01 | streuner_ | !listkeys ask |
| 14:26.03 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'ask' by key (15 of 78): #debian umask ;; _default haskell ;; and ask what ;; ask ;; ask to ask ;; ask-in-gnome ;; ask-to-ask ;; ask-to-ask-to-ask ;; ask2ask ;; im asking the people that ;; multiple ask ;; quake haskell ;; tasksel ;; umask ;; unmaskirq. |
| 14:26.12 | abrotman | norton: most likely PC100 or PC133 SDRAM |
| 14:26.18 | AciD | anybody here using yakuake 2.7.3 experience visual problems ? like unprinted terminal |
| 14:26.40 | streuner_ | Zugschlus: Meta question never heard here... |
| 14:26.42 | abrotman | norton: might possibly be PC66 too i guess |
| 14:26.46 | streuner_ | Zugschlus: (term) |
| 14:26.57 | norton | ok, thanks |
| 14:27.15 | mmiikkee12 | how do i remove xfce |
| 14:27.17 | norton | oh, can PC100 and PC133 be mixed? |
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| 14:27.30 | norton | on the same mobo |
| 14:27.34 | morphine | norton: yeah,but they'll work at PC100 |
| 14:27.38 | wireddd | they will be pc100 |
| 14:27.54 | abrotman | norton: assuming the machine is a PC100 machine .. and you put PC133 in . it should downcolock the PC133 .. if it's a PC133 and ypu put in mixed 133/100 .. i think it turns it all to 100 .. |
| 14:27.57 | inetd | Snadder: cant find any....you'l be better off compiling the kernel :-) |
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| 14:28.29 | norton | i see. |
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| 14:28.38 | xoz | least common denominator |
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| 14:29.43 | _joey | anyway to mount cue on using loop ? |
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| 14:30.04 | Roadrunner2006 | hello |
| 14:30.12 | Roadrunner2006 | a little question |
| 14:30.23 | _joey | dpkg bastard, know anything? |
| 14:30.25 | T_VoiD | _joey: it's raw data. with checksums and alike... didn't the conversion work before? |
| 14:30.32 | _joey | nope |
| 14:30.47 | Roadrunner2006 | i have vserver. now i want to ban an emailadress for my forum. |
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| 14:30.52 | Roadrunner2006 | how can i do this? |
| 14:30.55 | T_VoiD | _joey: perhaps there's a protection? else why use cue/bin |
| 14:31.26 | abrotman | Roadrunner2006: on Debian? |
| 14:31.29 | Roadrunner2006 | yes |
| 14:31.31 | norskfjord | Roadrunner2006: read the man pages |
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| 14:32.58 | Roadrunner2006 | i already did. but i found nothing |
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| 14:33.34 | [6502] | hello, i've a problem with USB permissions (in the specific gphoto2 works only as root even after adding a regular user to both camera and plugdev groups) where should I look at ? |
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| 14:35.06 | kristaps | hi all |
| 14:35.18 | kristaps | can anyone help me a little bit? |
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| 14:35.46 | nkuttler | [6502]: /usr/share/doc/gphoto2 iirc. did you log out and in after adding yourself to the groups? |
| 14:36.16 | [6502] | nkuttler: oh... i didn't know logging out and in was necessary, i'll try |
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| 14:37.07 | [6502] | "windows 98 detected a mouse motion, please reboot to update the system configuration" |
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| 14:37.34 | [6502] | thanx |
| 14:37.37 | strider | [6502]: just su to your user |
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| 14:38.04 | strider | hmm |
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| 14:38.36 | strider | !zoo |
| 14:38.37 | dpkg | hmm... zoo is fuck, fuck, fuck a duck, screw a kangaroo! slap and bang an orangutan, it's an orgy at the zoo! |
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| 14:41.05 | ^Joey^ | hello |
| 14:41.17 | mishael | hello |
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| 14:42.42 | cahoot | as in suomi? |
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| 14:44.05 | ^Joey^ | watha fuck |
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| 14:44.23 | mishael | joey try debian-fi |
| 14:44.34 | ^Joey^ | why |
| 14:44.42 | mishael | finnish debian |
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| 14:44.58 | ^Joey^ | ok |
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| 14:45.16 | krummie | anyone using uml? |
| 14:45.32 | xoz | !ask |
| 14:45.32 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 14:45.34 | abrotman | just ask! |
| 14:45.40 | asg | krummie: which uml? the modeling language or user mode linux? |
| 14:45.56 | krummie | user mode |
| 14:46.19 | krummie | how do you feel about using uml? |
| 14:46.21 | krummie | =) |
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| 14:46.28 | asg | krummie: I run 17 instances on a single HS20 blade |
| 14:46.35 | krummie | wow |
| 14:46.39 | asg | krummie: however, I'm getting ready to move from UML to Xen |
| 14:46.46 | krummie | Xen? |
| 14:46.49 | krummie | url? |
| 14:46.54 | xoz | xen is cool |
| 14:47.00 | asg | krummie: xensource.com |
| 14:47.29 | abrotman | !xen |
| 14:47.29 | dpkg | methinks xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, developed by the University of Cambridge. It is intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. Operating systems must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). This enables Xen to achieve high performance virtualization without special hardware support. |
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| 14:48.37 | kristaps | hello guys, tell me how configure alsa if i have errors like that: "The file /usr/src/linux-2.6.15.6/include/linux/version.h does not exist. Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /usr/src/linux). |
| 14:48.37 | kristaps | " |
| 14:48.54 | kristaps | i tried to make symbolic links, but had no success |
| 14:49.10 | abrotman | !version.h |
| 14:49.10 | dpkg | if you use multiple kernels and wish to use the include files with ease, copy /usr/src/linux/include to /usr/include/kernel-X.Y.Z. then 'ln -fs /usr/include/kernel-X.Y.Z/linux/version.h /usr/include/linux/version.h' |
| 14:49.25 | Zrin | what is "bc"? |
| 14:49.57 | kyncani | Zrin: man bc ? |
| 14:50.08 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 14:50.10 | krummie | asg is there a debian version? |
| 14:50.18 | krummie | of xen |
| 14:50.47 | krummie | !abrotman |
| 14:50.47 | dpkg | i heard abrotman is someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 14:50.51 | Mazingaro | please how can I configure /media on sid? I mean I've got /media/hdb for dvd reader, how can I change it e.g. /dev/dvd -> /media/dvd and so on? |
| 14:50.59 | Zrin | kyncani: I don't have bc, but a postinst shell script wants it, like "sga_target=`echo 0.75 \* $TMSP | bc`" |
| 14:51.00 | kristaps | the problem was that i installed debian unstable and installation didn't included /usr/src/linux - so i downloaded it from kernel.org and made symbolic link |
| 14:51.22 | kyncani | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:51.38 | XoR_ | where i can find RTL8139D module ??? |
| 14:51.44 | Zrin | kyncani: ok ... missing dependency |
| 14:51.56 | dvs | kristaps: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r' |
| 14:52.20 | kristaps | hmm i'll try |
| 14:52.25 | kristaps | thanks guys |
| 14:52.42 | Phlexonance | I am running KDE 3.3.2 (on 3.1 sarge), how can I update to the latest (3.5.1) |
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| 14:53.37 | abrotman | Phlexonance: ask #debian-kde |
| 14:53.50 | asg | krummie: check www.debian-administration.org for some HowTos |
| 14:54.09 | Phlexonance | abrotman: I did and am still waiting for response but that channel looks kinda idle |
| 14:54.44 | kyncani | !backports |
| 14:54.44 | dpkg | methinks backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 14:54.48 | kyncani | Phlexonance: ^ |
| 14:55.24 | Zrin | kyncani: is bc something new? can't find it in testing!? |
| 14:55.38 | kyncani | Zrin: very very old |
| 14:55.46 | asg | !info bc etch |
| 14:55.51 | dpkg | bc: (The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language), section math, is standard. Version: 1.06-19 (etch), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 188 kB |
| 14:55.57 | asg | Zrin: ^^ |
| 14:56.03 | abrotman | Phlexonance: they'll come around |
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| 14:56.25 | Zrin | kyncani: it is not in testing!?? |
| 14:56.36 | Zrin | kyncani: nor in stable?!? |
| 14:56.50 | kyncani | you're very very wrong ... |
| 14:57.04 | Zrin | !info bc |
| 14:57.06 | dpkg | bc: (The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language), section math, is standard. Version: 1.06-19 (sid), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 188 kB |
| 14:57.25 | Zrin | am I? |
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| 14:58.09 | kyncani | !info bc stable |
| 14:58.11 | dpkg | bc: (The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language), section math, is standard. Version: 1.06-15 (sarge), Packaged size: 63 kB, Installed size: 184 kB |
| 14:58.12 | kyncani | !info bc testing |
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| 14:58.14 | dpkg | bc: (The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language), section math, is standard. Version: 1.06-19 (etch), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 188 kB |
| 14:58.22 | kyncani | Yes, very wrong indeed |
| 14:58.28 | Zrin | hmm :-/ |
| 14:58.31 | Zrin | thank you |
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| 14:58.59 | strider | !wrong |
| 14:59.00 | dpkg | NEVER! |
| 14:59.07 | kyncani | :) |
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| 15:01.56 | kristaps | guys, sorry for spam |
| 15:02.07 | kristaps | but how can i solve that problem: |
| 15:02.22 | kristaps | kristaps-1:/home/kristaps# apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386 Reading package lists... Done |
| 15:02.23 | kristaps | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 15:02.23 | kristaps | The following extra packages will be installed: |
| 15:02.23 | kristaps | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.23 | kristaps | The following NEW packages will be installed |
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| 15:02.39 | kristaps | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.41 | kristaps | in the drive ‘/cdrom/’ and press enter |
| 15:02.44 | Zrin | does anyone have oracle-xe running on debian? |
| 15:02.48 | citral | !topicbadger kristaps |
| 15:02.49 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that kristaps didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 15:02.53 | valdyn | !tell kristaps -about paste |
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| 15:03.30 | asg | kristaps: use apt-setup to configure non-cd based sources |
| 15:03.44 | mr_claus | what is good way to simulate cpu usage? |
| 15:03.55 | citral | mr_claus: glxgears ? |
| 15:04.12 | asg | kristaps: or sources.list(5) (since apt-setup may have been removed in etch at this point) |
| 15:04.23 | Zrin | mr_claus: dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/null :) |
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| 15:04.37 | valdyn | mr_claus: for what purpose? |
| 15:04.37 | mr_claus | citral: i cannot use it at this machine |
| 15:04.37 | strider | mr_claus: hot-babe? |
| 15:05.05 | mr_claus | evolution stops working sometimes and it seems that it depends on the cpu usage |
| 15:05.05 | wireddd | I have 2 video cards in this pc, voodoo4 pci, and a gf4 agp. the only way I can get them both to work in xorg when I am using the 2.6.15 kernel is to init the pci card first in the bios. Any other 2.6 kernel that I have tried I can init either card first and it doesn't matter. With kernel 2.6.15, if I init the agp card first the pci card works, but the picture is completly screwed up. Anyone have an idea why that might be? |
| 15:05.14 | mr_claus | i need to do more testing |
| 15:05.22 | valdyn | mr_claus: cpuburn |
| 15:05.40 | strider | oh simulate... |
| 15:06.11 | mr_claus | valdyn, thx |
| 15:06.14 | Zrin | wireddd: IRQ problem? acpi problem? |
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| 15:06.38 | Zrin | wireddd: try running the kernel with acpi=off |
| 15:07.05 | Zrin | wireddd: I had similar problem with NICs recently |
| 15:07.18 | Jhair | mr_claus: there are the `stress` and `cpuburn` packages for that |
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| 15:07.55 | kristaps | someone be so kind and look at my problem: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2162 |
| 15:08.13 | wireddd | Zrin, I'll try that next time I reboot |
| 15:08.36 | Zrin | wireddd: what chipcet do you have? |
| 15:09.06 | valdyn | !alsa one-liner |
| 15:09.06 | dpkg | [alsa one-liner] apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 15:09.10 | roerich | kristalino: use apt-setup to alter your apt sources |
| 15:09.16 | valdyn | !2.4 alsa one-liner |
| 15:09.16 | dpkg | i heard 2.4 alsa one-liner is to install alsa on a 2.4 kernel: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-modules-$(uname -r) && alsaconf ; if you are using a 2.6 kernel ask me about <alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 15:09.24 | wireddd | Zrin, nf2 |
| 15:09.26 | roerich | kristaps: use apt-setup to alter your apt sources |
| 15:09.41 | roerich | kristalino: sry wrong nick completion |
| 15:09.45 | mr_claus | hmm, it's not a cpu usage problem it seems |
| 15:09.49 | valdyn | kristaps: the headers package you are trying to install never existed or needed to exist |
| 15:09.54 | kristaps | apt-setup not works |
| 15:10.10 | kristaps | alsa requires |
| 15:10.12 | mr_claus | what could be the reason of hanging evolution? |
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| 15:10.28 | Zrin | wireddd: my problem was related to 2.6.15 not properly recognizing or initializing chipset / bus / acpi on an older chipset |
| 15:10.38 | roerich | kristaps: then edit your apt-sources by hand to point it to online resources |
| 15:10.42 | kyncani | kristaps: you're running debian stable ? |
| 15:10.43 | mr_claus | if i use a lot of thinclients and run webpages with moving flash stuff evolution hangs after starting |
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| 15:11.09 | mr_claus | the net traffic is not on limit, the ram is not on limit and cpu usage is only 60% |
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| 15:11.35 | valdyn | !bts |
| 15:11.36 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 15:11.40 | kristaps | no i m running unstable |
| 15:11.48 | valdyn | mr_claus: you're hopeless trying to debug a race condition like this |
| 15:11.49 | xoz | mr_claus: programming error |
| 15:11.57 | kyncani | !tell kristaps about apt-setup |
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| 15:12.03 | kristaps | but seems i solved problem with a little help from you all :))) |
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| 15:12.11 | valdyn | mr_claus: which that could be in evolution, just work aroudn that error, like, dont use evolution |
| 15:12.13 | mr_claus | there is no error message or something else |
| 15:12.29 | strider | kristaps: you need linux-headers instead |
| 15:12.35 | Phlexonance | I am running KDE 3.3.2 (on 3.1 sarge), how can I update to the latest (3.5.1) |
| 15:12.35 | mr_claus | valdyn: there is no way to go this way :( |
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| 15:13.01 | kyncani | Phlexonance: backports (again) |
| 15:13.23 | Phlexonance | kyncani: backports? |
| 15:13.26 | xoz | evolution is still evolving i guess |
| 15:13.32 | kyncani | !tell Phlexonance about backports |
| 15:13.33 | mr_claus | hmm, install evolution 2.60 into debian? |
| 15:13.58 | mr_claus | would be a lot of work without packages |
| 15:14.18 | strider | kristaps: and you don't need the headers to install ALSA |
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| 15:14.53 | mr_claus | perhaps some problems with max file handles or other system limits? |
| 15:15.05 | mr_claus | it runs without any problem if the machine is not on heavy load |
| 15:15.21 | xoz | mr_claus: your guess is as good as ours |
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| 15:15.44 | kristaps | strider so why alsa crashes on: The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist. |
| 15:15.44 | kristaps | Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution |
| 15:15.44 | kristaps | or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel |
| 15:15.44 | kristaps | sources (default is /usr/src/linux). |
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| 15:16.13 | strider | kristaps: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
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| 15:18.48 | azeem | Thug-N-Me: this is offtopic here |
| 15:19.01 | azeem | Thug-N-Me: and please write in english |
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| 15:19.56 | abrotman | like everything else he does :) |
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| 15:20.08 | azeem | yeah, just checked lastlog |
| 15:20.11 | abrotman | !beer azeem |
| 15:20.12 | mr_claus | xoz: ok, that means no more ideas how i can troubleshoot a little bit more? |
| 15:20.27 | Seerxs | This is first time I have been here, anyone who wants to talk to me ? |
| 15:20.38 | abrotman | Seerxs: it's a support channel for debian |
| 15:20.39 | asg | !tell Seerxs about ask |
| 15:20.56 | asg | abrotman: and alkys like me |
| 15:21.18 | xoz | mr_claus: unfortunately, evolution is huge program. it is like hunting a bug in the forest. describe the prob in google and pray there is a discussion about it. |
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| 15:21.45 | abrotman | asg: did you get your eggs ? |
| 15:21.45 | mr_claus | xoz: ok, thats what i'm doing since yesterday :( |
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| 15:21.53 | Seerxs | where are you from? I am in China |
| 15:21.59 | asg | abrotman: no, you know I don't like eggs. |
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| 15:22.07 | abrotman | asg: can i have yours? |
| 15:22.11 | abrotman | asg: does mrs asg like eggs? |
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| 15:22.17 | asg | abrotman: yes |
| 15:22.21 | abrotman | ok |
| 15:22.23 | norskfjord | whats the command to set the samba password? |
| 15:22.23 | azeem | Seerxs: this is not a general talk channel |
| 15:22.25 | xoz | mr_claus: what wm? kernel? debian flavor? and fs? |
| 15:22.31 | abrotman | !cn |
| 15:22.32 | dpkg | from memory, cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
| 15:22.36 | azeem | Seerxs: if you have questions about Debian, just ask |
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| 15:23.17 | xoz | the bot should have a database of oldcomers and flag newcomers about ask factoid :) |
| 15:23.23 | mr_claus | xoz: i think all things are as usual, wm == icewm, kernel 2.6.12.6-xen, debian etch, ext3 |
| 15:23.31 | Tim001 | Can anyone tell me how I can change the video card driver |
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| 15:23.44 | asg | xoz: you could mention that to dondelecaro or just grab the source and submit a patch (/topic #debian-bots) |
| 15:23.47 | kyncani | !tell Tim001 about drxx |
| 15:24.21 | asg | xoz: however, on joining the channel, the guidelines are displayed though nobody reads them |
| 15:24.32 | ynze | hello all |
| 15:24.45 | ynze | got a question about ubuntu and sound... |
| 15:24.54 | asg | ynze: /join #ubuntu |
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| 15:25.03 | ynze | anok |
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| 15:25.08 | xoz | asg: yep. one needs to smack the guideline in their face. :) |
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| 15:25.15 | thingfish | ynze: /topic |
| 15:25.16 | Thug-N-Me | thank you |
| 15:25.16 | dpm | how do I get to a console with the ISO1 cd? |
| 15:25.20 | asg | xoz: yep |
| 15:25.23 | asg | dpm: ALT+F2 |
| 15:25.50 | dpm | ok, thanks |
| 15:26.02 | xoz | mr_claus: seems it is evolution issue. have you tried in another kernel? |
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| 15:26.24 | mr_claus | xoz: thats not possible because i need xen support |
| 15:26.36 | mr_claus | xoz: but the software is sometimes running and sometimes not |
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| 15:26.56 | Tim001 | kyncani thnks |
| 15:26.57 | mr_claus | xoz: i dont know exactly when it's not running, i try to find it out |
| 15:27.01 | xoz | mr_claus: it is either a memory crossover or race condition. random error is more difficult to debug. |
| 15:27.04 | kyncani | Tim001: np :) |
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| 15:27.30 | Tim001 | but is there also an "autodetect" or not? |
| 15:27.38 | mr_claus | xoz: there is a long time evo is running without any problems and from one point it stops working |
| 15:27.57 | mr_claus | xoz: if i reduce the processes on my system and try it again its working again |
| 15:28.11 | kyncani | Tim001: X -configure :) |
| 15:28.21 | xoz | mr_claus: same kernel or you upgraded? |
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| 15:28.54 | xoz | mr_claus: before the prob occured. |
| 15:28.56 | mr_claus | xoz: same kernel, same system |
| 15:29.04 | mr_claus | xoz: oh, i upgraded |
| 15:29.30 | mr_claus | xoz: the old system is a redhat 7.1 and the new is a debian sarge with a debian etch on top in a xen virtual domainU |
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| 15:29.56 | xoz | mr_claus: you mean, redhat evo is ok before? |
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| 15:31.03 | Mazingaro | please how can I configure /media on sid? I mean I've got /media/hdb for dvd reader, how can I change it e.g. /dev/dvd -> /media/dvd and so on? |
| 15:31.18 | xoz | mr_claus: there are many possibilities... xen, evolution itself or maybe the kernel sched/process management. |
| 15:31.32 | abrotman | Mazingaro: in your fstab |
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| 15:32.30 | xoz | mr_claus: as i said, evolution is a huge program and there is not much info or error codes that we can check. |
| 15:32.32 | Mazingaro | abrotman: how? |
| 15:32.41 | Tsukihime | can anyone give me a good how to, for how to make debian run an automatic command before starting x? |
| 15:32.43 | abrotman | man fstab |
| 15:32.46 | wireddd | is icecast2 what I want to use to stream the audio out over my lan? |
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| 15:32.52 | abrotman | Mazingaro: if i understood your question anyways |
| 15:33.04 | blondie | moooo! |
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| 15:33.12 | Mazingaro | abrotman: I'm using hal e dbus |
| 15:33.16 | Mazingaro | abrotman: I'm using hal and dbus |
| 15:33.21 | xoz | Tsukihime: explain more |
| 15:33.32 | Mazingaro | abrotman: pmount for automatic mounting |
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| 15:34.16 | dpm | I'm trying to reinstall grub as instructed per http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover?highlight=%28grub%29, but when mounting /dev/hda1, it says that /my-debian does not exist, although mkdir /my-debian worked and I can see it with ls. Any ideas? |
| 15:34.22 | abrotman | Mazingaro: maybe the fstab .. nto sure with hal/dbus |
| 15:34.33 | Tsukihime | well i am on enlightenment, and i would like that every time kernel boots it adds ESD to it start sequence, i am not very expirienced but i would like to learn how to make it automaticaly instead of me starting ESD when i enter X. |
| 15:34.48 | mr_claus | xoz: redhat evo was ok but other versions, there was kernel 2.4 and evo 1.2.4 |
| 15:35.08 | xoz | mr_claus: then, no point of comparison. |
| 15:35.14 | mr_claus | xoz: yes |
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| 15:35.40 | mr_claus | xoz: hmm, perhaps there are system limits like max open files or things like that |
| 15:35.41 | xoz | Tsukihime: are you using a display manager or startx? |
| 15:35.50 | Tsukihime | xoz, startx |
| 15:35.54 | mr_claus | xoz: are there are some things which could be checked? |
| 15:36.00 | xoz | Tsukihime: edit .xsession |
| 15:36.19 | xoz | mr_claus: have your tried strace? |
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| 15:36.35 | xoz | mr_claus: tracing is a long shot though for this random error |
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| 15:36.47 | mr_claus | xoz: yes of course, evolution loads and then it does nothing |
| 15:37.20 | xoz | mr_claus: try ulimit -c unlimited... then pray it core dumps after sometime and you can examine the core file with gdb or submit the core file to the developers. |
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| 15:38.11 | xoz | mr_claus:help ulimit for other options |
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| 15:40.03 | xoz | mr_claus: you have to run evolution in the same shell where ulimit -c is unlimited. the core file will be huge so make sure you have enough space in the directory where you are running evolution. |
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| 15:40.15 | The-Saint | can anyone point me in the direction of the right room to go for motherboard queries? |
| 15:40.24 | mr_claus | xoz: ok, i will do next tests, thank you very much |
| 15:40.33 | abrotman | OMG .. pokemon is on! |
| 15:40.34 | xoz | The-Saint: tomhardware? |
| 15:40.41 | abrotman | The-Saint: #hardware |
| 15:41.10 | blamar | Anyone have a clue as to why my debian box can't telnet to port 25 anywhere, but my windows/freebsd boxes on the same router can? I'm getting the TCP/IP "no route to host" error... |
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| 15:41.35 | Tsukihime | xoz, i cannot find .xsession =) |
| 15:41.38 | abrotman | dvs: it's on my tv .. i'm kind of stuck |
| 15:41.52 | dvs | abrotman: Poor soul! |
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| 15:42.20 | xoz | The-Saint: www.tomshardware.com |
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| 15:43.04 | xoz | Tsukihime: ~/.xsession or you can create one add any x programs like xterm&, etc... |
| 15:43.18 | sebyte | Hey all, anyone know how to make Unicode UTF-8 my default character encoding in gnome-terminal? |
| 15:43.30 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 15:43.52 | dpm | Ok, I'll rephrase my question: after booting with the sarge ISO1 cd, pressing Alt+F2 and getting to a console, 'mkdir /my-debian' |
| 15:43.52 | dpm | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.04 | mmiikkee12 | i can't change my refresh rate from 60hz, even though i know my monitor supports it. any ideas? |
| 15:44.08 | sebyte | abrotman: is that a suggestion for me? |
| 15:44.47 | prolek | is probably that you have default drivers or vesa mode ? |
| 15:44.48 | dvs | mmiikkee12: It usually means the frequencies for your monitor is wrong. |
| 15:45.05 | abrotman | sebyte: yes |
| 15:45.06 | mmiikkee12 | dvs: i know that, it should be 85hz ;) |
| 15:45.13 | mmiikkee12 | or at least 72 |
| 15:45.15 | xoz | dpm: you mounted your original root at bootprompt? |
| 15:45.22 | kookaburra | mmiikkee12, reconfigure x |
| 15:45.23 | mmiikkee12 | i run 85 in window$ |
| 15:45.30 | dpm | xoz: no |
| 15:45.31 | dvs | mmiikkee12: The frequency ranges |
| 15:45.56 | Lemy | i want to install apache2 with several configure options, I used apt-get and aptitude but there where no possibilities to enter these options |
| 15:46.04 | xoz | dpm: which root it is? ramdisk or root in your disk? |
| 15:46.09 | sebyte | abrotman: OK. but UTF-8 is just one of the locales listed in /etc/locales.gen. I don't want to rebuild them all again, can't I set the default manually somewhere so to speak |
| 15:46.16 | asg | Lemy: you'd have to build your own sources (/msg dpkg debian/rules) |
| 15:46.21 | prolek | in xconfig you must enter your correct vertical and horizontal freq. |
| 15:46.30 | Lemy | ok |
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| 15:46.45 | abrotman | sebyte: iirc .. it asks you which you want to be the default |
| 15:46.48 | dvs | mmiikkee12: I have HorizSync 28-49 and VertRefresh 43-72 |
| 15:47.02 | prolek | i have a problem with usb, xd |
| 15:47.18 | sebyte | abrotman: ah, and you don't know what it actually does to set your default no? |
| 15:47.21 | mmiikkee12 | dvs, i'm doing it through dpkg-reconfigure, because i dunno what the max is on this monitor |
| 15:47.26 | dpm | xoz: I booted with the cd, gave linux26 as boot option, then Alt+F2, then 'mkdir /my-debian' and all the rest, so I guess it's ramdisk root |
| 15:47.28 | prolek | i want to use usb with my old kernel 2.4.32 |
| 15:47.32 | dvs | !drxx mmiikkee12 |
| 15:47.32 | dpkg | mmiikkee12: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 15:47.36 | prolek | and my debian woody |
| 15:47.48 | mmiikkee12 | dvs, that's what i'm doing ;) |
| 15:47.53 | dvs | mmiikkee12: OK. |
| 15:48.11 | abrotman | sebyte: /etc/default/ .. i think it's set in there |
| 15:48.19 | xoz | dpm: by the way, where is your filesystem located? hda1 or hda2? |
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| 15:48.21 | mmiikkee12 | do i have to restart x to make it take effect? |
| 15:48.27 | dvs | mmiikkee12: yes |
| 15:48.31 | sebyte | abrotman: cool, ta, I'll check it out |
| 15:48.33 | dpm | xoz: hda1 |
| 15:48.36 | xoz | dpm: probably you need /dev/hda1 |
| 15:48.38 | mmiikkee12 | ok brb |
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| 15:48.43 | xoz | dpm: then use that |
| 15:48.50 | ribnitz | heyas. |
| 15:48.52 | prolek | how i can know what i must to do for config my usb with hotplug ? ( im spanish my english is not very well ) |
| 15:48.56 | hjubal | hi |
| 15:49.12 | xoz | dpm: mount /dev/hda1 /my-debian |
| 15:49.16 | dpm | xoz: that's what I did , hence my question |
| 15:49.28 | abrotman | OMFG .. ash won .. pokemon rules! |
| 15:49.36 | dvs | abrotman: go figure.... |
| 15:49.39 | abrotman | heheh |
| 15:49.42 | ribnitz | If I can write dvds with widows at 6-8x speed (based on the time to finish), and it gets up to 2x speed in linux (debian) what do I do wrong? |
| 15:50.04 | petemc | prolek: apt-get install usbmount |
| 15:50.06 | xoz | dpm: 00:43 < dpm> works, but 'mount /dev/hda2 /my-debian' |
| 15:50.20 | dpm | xoz: I misspelled hda1 on my first post, I meant hda1, sorry |
| 15:50.29 | prolek | i read about and the people says me that if i want to use usb, i have to use kernel 2.6 but i not want to change my kernel again ! |
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| 15:50.35 | seele_ | please help, I'm trying to make a linux ha cluster with serial cable, i need to know how can I test the serial connection with my other machine? |
| 15:50.44 | abrotman | minicom ? |
| 15:50.48 | abrotman | ckermit ? |
| 15:50.59 | asg | ser2net |
| 15:51.01 | xoz | dpm: try mkdir /ppp ... mount /dev/hda1 /ppp |
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| 15:51.18 | dpm | xoz: ok, I'll try that |
| 15:51.42 | abrotman | asg: does he mean .. like .. null modem serial? .. that's not very fast |
| 15:51.50 | Tim001 | how do I stop GDM if the gdm-stop command dousn't work? |
| 15:52.05 | xoz | Tim001: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 15:52.09 | roerich | try /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 15:52.14 | xoz | Tim001: killall gdm |
| 15:52.23 | xoz | Tim001: sudo killall gdm |
| 15:52.29 | asg | abrotman: yeah, that probably wouldn't work worth a damn. |
| 15:52.40 | dpm | xoz: same result => 'Mounting /dev/hda1 on /ppp failed: No such file or directory' |
| 15:52.42 | prolek | when i mount sda or sda1 , i can.t mount the usb ( i know that this is a newbie error xD ) but i don't understand why is more difficult this that configure a wifi in linux xd |
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| 15:53.00 | abrotman | asg: that'd be like .. 1992 dial-up :) |
| 15:53.02 | xoz | dpm: fdisk -l /dev/hda ... |
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| 15:53.13 | asg | abrotman: at least it's probably faster than IrDA |
| 15:53.15 | dpm | xoz: ok, I'll try that |
| 15:53.20 | xoz | dpm: get any info> |
| 15:53.28 | Tim001 | xoz: I get gdm already running. Aborting! |
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| 15:53.49 | abrotman | asg: i think it is .. barely :) |
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| 15:53.57 | asg | abrotman: heh |
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| 15:54.17 | Tim001 | is it safe to just use kilall? |
| 15:54.20 | Snadder | can anyone tell me where I can find the driver snd-ca0106 in the linux-2.6.8.1 source? |
| 15:54.24 | xoz | Tim001: yep. |
| 15:54.35 | Snadder | I need to select it in menuconfig and compile it. |
| 15:54.46 | Snadder | but I cant find the driver. |
| 15:54.47 | asg | Tim001: use pgrep and pkill for a little more safety and flexibility |
| 15:55.03 | Snadder | need it for my new soundcard: Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS |
| 15:55.04 | dpm | xoz: 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' returns nothing. I hope I haven't destroyed my partition... |
| 15:55.05 | xoz | Snadder: find <dir> -iname "snd-ca*" |
| 15:55.28 | xoz | dpm: so, hda is not working not the /my-debian |
| 15:55.39 | Snadder | xoz, yes.. thats the first thing I did.. but didnt find it |
| 15:55.42 | xoz | dpm: try hdb... |
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| 15:55.55 | Snadder | xoz will I winf uncompiled modules that way too? |
| 15:55.55 | dpm | xoz: ok |
| 15:56.04 | Snadder | find* |
| 15:56.09 | asg | dpm: after doing 'mkdir /foo' ; can you verify that /foo exists (ls -ld /foo) |
| 15:56.24 | asg | dpm: disregard that |
| 15:56.38 | dpm | asg: ok |
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| 15:56.58 | xoz | Snadder: try module-assistant |
| 15:57.02 | mr_claus | xoz: there is no corefile |
| 15:57.13 | dpm | xoz: 'fdisk -l /dev/hdb' returns also nothing |
| 15:57.14 | mr_claus | xoz: the app is not crashing, its 'only' hanging |
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| 15:57.31 | aubergine | Hi |
| 15:57.43 | mr_claus | xoz: i increased the max open file with ulimit and the stack size |
| 15:57.45 | xoz | mr_claus: like zombie? what is the status when you ps? |
| 15:57.46 | mr_claus | xoz: no result |
| 15:57.55 | aubergine | How can i import a .sql Dumpfile into a existing Mysql Database 1 to 1? |
| 15:58.02 | Tsukihime | debian have seem to lost sight of the sound card it says there is no /dev/dsp/, how can i fix this? |
| 15:58.09 | asg | mr_claus: did you check bugs.debian.org/evolution for similar reports? |
| 15:58.10 | xoz | mr_claus: haning like busy? try lsof |
| 15:58.24 | mr_claus | xoz: the status is Sl+ |
| 15:58.34 | xoz | dpm: so, where is you disk? |
| 15:58.42 | xoz | dpm: try cfdisk /dev/hda |
| 15:58.46 | azeem | Tsukihime: is /dev/audio there? |
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| 15:59.10 | Tsukihime | azeem, dont think so.... |
| 15:59.12 | asg | xoz: if he booted with the install disc, he hasn't probably gone far enough to auto-detect the hardware for the IDE controller |
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| 15:59.20 | ayaz | hello!!! |
| 15:59.29 | ayaz | how can I hibernate debian? |
| 15:59.37 | ayaz | with suspend2 ?? |
| 15:59.44 | asg | ayaz: yes |
| 15:59.46 | ayaz | is it the recent solution? |
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| 15:59.54 | prolek | how i can test if my usb config is wrong or not ? |
| 15:59.55 | asg | ayaz: and the only one that works well |
| 16:00.03 | dvs | prolek: lsusb? |
| 16:00.03 | prolek | i have hotplug installed |
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| 16:00.15 | ayaz | ok thanks a lot! |
| 16:00.16 | asg | ayaz: if you are fortunate to have an APM supported model, most suspend to mem and suspend to disk functions should work fine. |
| 16:00.18 | prolek | lsusb? |
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| 16:00.22 | xoz | asg: this link he mentioned, http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover, seems to assume it is detected. yeah. possible that the faq is incomplete. |
| 16:00.47 | xoz | dpm: maybe you can try knoppix and follow the same technique once you get the shell. |
| 16:00.49 | asg | xoz: might be worth a shot to have him try |
| 16:01.08 | aubergine | How can i import a .sql Dumpfile into a existing Mysql Database 1 to 1? |
| 16:01.12 | prolek | i typed lsusb and the system says bus 001 |
| 16:01.16 | dpm | xoz: cfdisk /dev/hda => Fatal error: cannot open disk drive |
| 16:01.31 | asg | aubergine: mysql -u foo -P </path/to/file.sql |
| 16:01.33 | war92 | anyone know of a good JAVA irc server, like ircd-hybrid but for java? |
| 16:01.35 | prolek | i have only one bus usb ? |
| 16:01.58 | dpm | xoz: yeah, I'll try knoppix, I just thought it would be quicker with the debian iso, but it is obviously not |
| 16:02.05 | xoz | dpm: then, it seems that your ide was not detected. try another livecd like ubuntu livecd or knoppix. |
| 16:02.21 | Snadder | xoz: how am I supposed to find my module with module-assistant.. not many modules in the list command.. and to search didnt work eather. |
| 16:02.47 | Fluten | i am using hdparm -S 10 /dev/hdb to keep a drive only used for backup with bad bearings turned off when its not in use, and it keeps turning itself on all the time, when i am not doing any data transfers to it. |
| 16:02.48 | xoz | dpm: i thought also. you might have skipped some options or the intaller really failed to detect your ide. |
| 16:03.22 | Fluten | what would cause linux to keep waking the drive up? |
| 16:03.37 | xoz | Snadder: tried m-a la? |
| 16:03.56 | abrotman | Fluten: just umount it |
| 16:03.56 | mr_claus | xoz: not hanging like busy, the cpu usage goes down but there are open files with does not change |
| 16:04.06 | xoz | Snadder: btw, your module is in the standard kernel? |
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| 16:04.12 | Snadder | xoz: I suppose not.. whats m-a la? |
| 16:04.14 | ayaz | In the HOWTO says: An implementation of Software Suspend is directly included since 2.5.18 in the main development kernel tree |
| 16:04.16 | dpm | xoz: trying knoppix right now. I don't know what I could have possibly skipped. I just typed linux26, and when all the hw detection was over, I pressed alt+F2 to get to the console |
| 16:04.21 | xoz | Snadder: list all |
| 16:04.22 | ayaz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.38 | Fluten | abrotman, thanks, ill try that and have the machine initiate the backups, so i dont have to keep it mounted all the time |
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| 16:04.57 | xoz | Snadder: err, m-a list-available... la means list-installed |
| 16:05.05 | Snadder | xoz: I guess my module is not in the standar kernel.. atleast 2.6.8... but I have no idea really.. no files was named snd-ca0106 atleast |
| 16:05.15 | ayaz | should I download the suspend2 package from the homepage? |
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| 16:05.49 | Fluten | anyone else have western digital drives become extremely noisy after a few years? |
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| 16:06.02 | xoz | Snadder: there is ca-0106 in 2.6.15 |
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| 16:06.25 | xoz | Snadder: modprobe snd-ca0106 |
| 16:06.30 | beered | I have printing setup and it works just fine from most applications, but not for abi word and acrobat. When I print from these two I see only 'lp' in the printer list. Any suggestions on how to fix this? |
| 16:06.36 | kurumin | pq é isso?? |
| 16:06.38 | asg | ayaz: yes, you basically need to recompile a kernel with those patches applied. |
| 16:06.39 | Snadder | xoz, ok.. but then I need to install 2.6.15.. I dont want to hassle with compiling it atm |
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| 16:06.53 | Snadder | xoz: FATAL: Module snd_ca0106 not found. |
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| 16:06.55 | ma3x | how can I identify DVD VIDEO (what sound codec, what bitrate it is....) |
| 16:07.10 | xoz | Snadder: ah, so maybe it is a new addition in 2.6.15 |
| 16:07.30 | Tsukihime | ma3x, file (name.ext) |
| 16:07.59 | ma3x | Tsukihime, vts_01_1.vob: MPEG sequence, v2, program multiplex |
| 16:08.01 | Tsukihime | ma3x, or use mplayer and call the video from console mplayer will tell you what codecs it is encoded with |
| 16:08.02 | ma3x | Tsukihime, it says nothing more than that |
| 16:08.04 | Snadder | xoz: an old 2.4 kernel I used long time ago had the module I want. |
| 16:08.10 | ma3x | Tsukihime, ok let me try |
| 16:08.24 | xoz | Snadder: are you running stable? |
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| 16:08.59 | xoz | !depends linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 16:09.04 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6.15-1-686: depends on module-init-tools (>= 0.9.13), initramfs-tools | yaird | linux-initramfs-tool |
| 16:09.26 | xoz | !depends yaird |
| 16:09.33 | dpkg | yaird: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), perl (>= 5.6.0-16), libhtml-template-perl, dash, libparse-recdescent-perl, cpio |
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| 16:09.50 | Snadder | xoz.. i'm running sarge.. is that stable atm? |
| 16:09.55 | azeem | yes |
| 16:09.57 | xoz | Snadder: yep |
| 16:10.15 | Snadder | I installed it before it went stable.. |
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| 16:10.34 | azeem | Snadder: then dist-upgrade to it |
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| 16:10.45 | azeem | Snadder: but make sure it says sarge or stable in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:11.05 | asg | aubergine: please keep it in channel then you benefit from peer review. |
| 16:11.47 | Snadder | azeem, yes.. I have dist-upgraded after it became stable. |
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| 16:12.19 | asg | beered: did you use cups to setup printing? |
| 16:12.20 | xoz | mr_claus: bug the evolution developers :) |
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| 16:12.50 | Snadder | none knows about a newer kernel with the module I want?.. ca-0106? |
| 16:13.05 | Snadder | which I can install from apt-get |
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| 16:13.34 | Snadder | maybe if I upgrade to unstable? |
| 16:13.38 | xoz | Snadder: compiling 2.6.15 kernel using make-kpkg is one option. |
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| 16:13.50 | azeem | Snadder: what is ca-0106? |
| 16:14.01 | dvs | azeem: Sound Blaster Live! I think |
| 16:14.13 | xoz | Snadder: snd-ca0106 is in 2.6.15 but in sid. |
| 16:14.30 | asg | dvs: thought that was emu10k or something similar? |
| 16:14.38 | dvs | asg: yes, something like that. |
| 16:14.42 | xoz | Snadder: strange. sound blaster live is usually supported from prev kernels. |
| 16:14.51 | Snadder | azeem, ca-0106 is a driver for my sound card: Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS |
| 16:15.04 | dvs | asg: enu10k1 is the first sound blaster live |
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| 16:15.12 | asg | dvs: ah, that's right. |
| 16:15.54 | Snadder | xoz, I'm ok with upgrading to etch, but not sid. |
| 16:16.13 | dvs | Snadder: I'd just grade the linux-package only |
| 16:16.21 | xoz | Snadder: you don't need to upgrade. you can compile a kernel. |
| 16:16.26 | dvs | linux-image i mean |
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| 16:17.04 | mr_claus | xoz: yes, would be the best idea |
| 16:17.06 | Tim001 | I have an d815eea motherboard with intergrated video, but what chipset do I have to use? |
| 16:17.22 | Tim001 | the tech spec's are at ftp://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d815eea/A1696401.pdf |
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| 16:17.22 | dvs | Tim001: lspci |
| 16:17.28 | strider | heh, if you were on 2.4, you could get it from the alsa modules package |
| 16:17.29 | xoz | Tim001: lspci |
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| 16:17.41 | asg | Tim001: lspci | grep -i VGA (paste the output) |
| 16:18.01 | Snadder | xoz: yes.. I dont want to compile a kernel atm.. dont got time to wait for that. |
| 16:18.16 | Snadder | dvs, will it work to use a kernel from sid.. when running sarge? |
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| 16:18.46 | dvs | Snadder: Usually. the package won't install if it doesn't work |
| 16:18.58 | Tim001 | It's typed (other machine) |
| 16:19.06 | cahoot | won't a 2.6.15 kernel include udev transition? |
| 16:19.46 | dvs | Snadder: Well, it's either that or compile your own kernel. |
| 16:19.48 | Snadder | cahoot, yep.. i've actually installed a newer kernel at sarge... half a year ago.. and I had to install a few other packages. |
| 16:20.07 | Snadder | dvs, since my module dosnt exist for my kernel? |
| 16:20.14 | xoz | Snadder: it will need yaird or initramfs-tools which depend on progs like libc6 which will really affect a lot of programs. |
| 16:20.17 | pigor | hello. i have just installed a minimal debian stable + xdm + xserver-xfree86 + wmaker + ... but xdm (or startx) crashes with something like this: "Fatal error: Failed to initialize core devices" (i have choosen vesa) |
| 16:20.20 | dvs | Snadder: yes |
| 16:20.26 | cahoot | Snadder: what alsa version does you kernel come with (/proc/asound/version) |
| 16:20.27 | Tim001 | VGA compatiable controller: intel corp. 82815 CGC [chipset graphics controller] (rev 02) |
| 16:21.05 | asg | pigor: if you are running a 2.6 kernel, make sure that psmouse and mousedev have been modprobed |
| 16:21.22 | beered | I have printing setup and it works just fine from most applications, but not for abi word and acrobat. When I print from these two I see only 'lp' in the printer list. Any suggestions on how to fix this? |
| 16:21.28 | Snadder | cahoot, that file didnt exist.. but I got AlsaMixer v1.0.9a |
| 16:21.36 | Snadder | if that helps. |
| 16:21.43 | asg | beered: are you using cups for printing? |
| 16:21.51 | beered | asg: yes |
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| 16:22.01 | asg | beered: install cupsys-client or cupsys-bsd and use the 'lp' entry |
| 16:22.25 | prolek | if lsusb says me this "bus 001 device 001" this mean that only detects one usb ? i have only 2 because this is an old pentium3 |
| 16:22.36 | pigor | asg: how can i make sure this ? |
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| 16:22.45 | beered | asg: I already have cupsys-client. what do you mean by using the lp entry? |
| 16:22.52 | enkrypt | I'm running Unstable amd64, and since a few days Quake3 performance has dropped from 300fps to 80fps... both my kernel and nvidia drivers are fully up-to-date. is this a known issue? |
| 16:23.12 | asg | beered: it is a cupsified version of the standard sysv lp print client. |
| 16:23.26 | Tim001 | asg: here is the result: VGA compatiable controller: intel corp. 82815 CGC [chipset graphics controller] (rev 02) |
| 16:23.26 | pigor | asg: i am running kernel 2.4 |
| 16:23.29 | Snadder | ok.. cant I grab the kernell source from sid? |
| 16:23.35 | xoz | Tim001: i810 |
| 16:23.37 | asg | Tim001: try i810 |
| 16:23.57 | asg | pigor: then verify that your mouse / keyboard settings are correct when you configured X |
| 16:23.59 | xoz | Snadder: or kernel.org |
| 16:24.00 | beered | asg: I see only 'lp' in the list of printers in abiword and Acrobat. Others work fine. |
| 16:24.01 | Snadder | and compile that with make-kpkg |
| 16:24.08 | xoz | Snadder: of course |
| 16:24.14 | asg | beered: and if you choose 'lp' and print, does it work? |
| 16:24.29 | Snadder | xoz, anyone remember the options to make-kpkg? |
| 16:24.33 | beered | asg: no, it doesn't work. |
| 16:24.44 | Snadder | xoz, ops.. do you:p |
| 16:25.02 | xoz | Snadder: make-kpkg clean. make-kpkg kernel-image. |
| 16:25.13 | beered | asg: I also see 'lp' only from xpdf. |
| 16:25.48 | Tim001 | asg: how to find the bus identifier? |
| 16:26.14 | cahoot | Snadder: you really sure snd-ca0106 isn't on your system (should be if alsa > 1.08 andlater) |
| 16:26.19 | Tim001 | (it is my first REAL linux setup) |
| 16:26.27 | asg | beered: well, I'd suggest installing cupsys-bsd also and if 'lp' doesn't work, see if 'lpr' does. I've never had a problem here. |
| 16:26.29 | xoz | Snadder: make-kpkg -initrd kernel_image |
| 16:26.32 | Snadder | cahoot, no.. i'm not sure.. but I have no idea how to be sure. |
| 16:26.34 | strider | !tell Snadder about kp mantra |
| 16:26.34 | thingfish | Tim001: just hit OK there. |
| 16:26.43 | asg | Tim001: if you have an x86 based system, don't worry about it |
| 16:26.53 | cahoot | Snadder: modprobe snd-ca0106 |
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| 16:27.17 | Snadder | cahoot, if thats the way I will be sure.. then i'm sure. |
| 16:27.23 | cahoot | ok |
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| 16:27.43 | Tim001 | also for the amount of ram "just ok" |
| 16:27.59 | xoz | Snadder: find /lib/modules/ -iname "*ca0106*" |
| 16:28.01 | thingfish | Tim001: yes, usually. |
| 16:28.01 | Tim001 | sorry, it is |
| 16:28.16 | ParoXsitiC | Hello all. I am wondering how I can make use of my additional IP i pay comcast for. Any idea on how i can set it up |
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| 16:28.30 | ParoXsitiC | I want my linux machine to refer by 2 IPs |
| 16:28.46 | Thanatermesis | Setting up openssh-server (4.2p1-5) ... Creating SSH2 RSA key; this may take some time ...PRNG is not seeded. dpkg: error processing openssh-server (--configure): |
| 16:28.55 | Snadder | xoz: only returned /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-686/updates/alsa/snd-ca0106.o |
| 16:29.04 | pigor | asg: mouse and keyboard seem to be all right |
| 16:29.17 | Snadder | which is from my past kernel.. before I upgraded to 2.6 |
| 16:29.31 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: How do you connect to your modem? |
| 16:29.44 | ParoXsitiC | DHCP |
| 16:29.49 | xoz | Snadder: i wonder why it got lost and then reappeared in the latest kernel |
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| 16:30.09 | ParoXsitiC | maulkin: linux is directly connected to the modem |
| 16:30.28 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: Using what? USB? |
| 16:30.32 | rodrigonicolodi | boa tarde pessoal |
| 16:30.33 | rodrigonicolodi | alguem ja instalou o ubuntun |
| 16:30.37 | Snadder | xoz: yeah. kinda strange. |
| 16:30.41 | ParoXsitiC | Maulkin, RJ45 |
| 16:30.42 | thingfish | !br |
| 16:30.42 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 16:31.02 | Snadder | I guess i'll go for installing my own kernel. |
| 16:31.02 | thingfish | and rodrigonicolodi, /join #ubuntu. |
| 16:31.02 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: In /etc/network/interfaces, there's a block like "iface eth0 inet static" |
| 16:31.19 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: Copy that to a new block and change eth0 to eth0:0 |
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| 16:31.41 | ParoXsitiC | Maulkin: I use DHCP, so would etho:0 iface eth0 inet dhcp work |
| 16:31.44 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: then one to eth0:1 |
| 16:31.54 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: Probably not |
| 16:32.12 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: DHCP isn't really capable of setting more than one IP address |
| 16:32.17 | ParoXsitiC | Maulkin how am I suppose to get an additional IP from comcast then |
| 16:32.23 | abrotman | channel bonding .. maybe |
| 16:32.40 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: depends what comcast have given you |
| 16:32.43 | Thanatermesis | its in a chroot environment installing SSH, any idea why this error ? |
| 16:33.04 | ParoXsitiC | Maulkin: Well recently I noticed i am being charged 5 dollars for an addtional IP. I figured id put it to use |
| 16:33.17 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: And what IS the ip? |
| 16:33.25 | ParoXsitiC | Maulkin: I dont know. |
| 16:33.39 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: Then you need to ask Comcast about it |
| 16:33.48 | ParoXsitiC | Maulkin: I was under the impression that if you spoofed a MAC address you could get an additional IP |
| 16:33.55 | ParoXsitiC | Maulkin: Comcast will not support anything linux-related |
| 16:33.57 | Anthro | I am having trouble with ssh X11 forwarding. I ran ssh -vvv and found the following line: debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/bin/X11/xauth list :0.0 . 2>/dev/null; This would work without the . between :0.0 and 2>/dev/null, but with the . it just gives an error. After that, ssh says: debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. This is the root of the problem. Authentication isn't working because the authentication isn't being foun |
| 16:33.57 | Anthro | d properly. How do I fix this? |
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| 16:34.06 | ParoXsitiC | Maulkin: I will ask about the IP tho |
| 16:34.47 | abrotman | !sshx |
| 16:34.47 | dpkg | it has been said that sshx is Enable X11Forwarding **on the remote server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
| 16:35.00 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: They shoudn;'t need to support linux. I have no idea who Comcast are though |
| 16:35.19 | prolek | i have sda writed in my fstab but i can.t mount usb, says that is a not valid block device. |
| 16:35.27 | abrotman | comcast is probably the largest cable ISP in .us |
| 16:35.29 | Anthro | abrotman: I have been through all that. None of that is the problem. The problem is with sending authentication. |
| 16:35.45 | Maulkin | oh, .us - that's why I don't knwo them :) |
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| 16:35.51 | abrotman | heh |
| 16:35.54 | cahoot | prolek: what mount command do you use? |
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| 16:36.16 | prolek | mount /dev/sda1 or sda |
| 16:36.30 | Thanatermesis | Setting up openssh-server (4.2p1-5) ... Creating SSH2 RSA key; this may take some time ...PRNG is not seeded. dpkg: error processing openssh-server (--configure): |
| 16:36.37 | Thanatermesis | (installing ssh in a chroot) |
| 16:36.50 | prolek | i have hotplug installed, and the parameters in kernel are correct i think |
| 16:37.03 | Maulkin | Thanatermesis: Looks liek it's not getting any entropy |
| 16:37.08 | prolek | i have an old kernel 2.4.32 |
| 16:37.30 | Maulkin | Thanatermesis: You may need to mount dev under the chroot |
| 16:37.40 | Anthro | abrotman: Note that, bizarrely, ssh root@localhost works just fine. I did just upgrade the remote machine that is having trouble. Still, I've checked its sshd_config and it seems to have everything set right. Nonetheless, I'm getting the wrong xauth entry on the remote side. |
| 16:37.48 | prolek | chroot ? |
| 16:38.03 | ParoXsitiC | Its my understanding that debian 3.0+ is called woody. what version is sarge |
| 16:38.13 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: 3.1 |
| 16:38.34 | prolek | chroot is a command |
| 16:38.54 | Tim001 | thingfish & others: It looks like it works, |
| 16:39.00 | Tim001 | thnks |
| 16:39.15 | Anthro | abrotman: ssh -Xvvv root@localhost shows the same thing about authentication spoofing, but X programs authenticate somehow. |
| 16:39.16 | Thanatermesis | Maulkin dev ? this is a posibility :) let me try... (i have give accidents mounting the /dev sometimes, :S ) |
| 16:40.54 | Snadder | if I upgrade to etch.. will I be able to use 2.6.15 from sid without problems then? |
| 16:41.22 | Maulkin | Snadder: Theoretically, yes. |
| 16:41.43 | Maulkin | Snadder: Well, it sort of depends on what else you're using :) |
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| 16:42.48 | Maulkin | Snadder: But what's wrong with using the 2.6.15 that's in etch? |
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| 16:42.58 | Snadder | xoz Snadder: it will need yaird or initramfs-tools which depend on progs like libc6 which will really affect a lot of programs. |
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| 16:43.30 | Snadder | Maulkin, oh.. does etch has 2.6.15? |
| 16:43.31 | Lingo | how do I configure GRUB? |
| 16:43.51 | Snadder | Maulkin, then I guess I just upgrade to etch.. and my problem is solved:-) |
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| 16:44.08 | thingfish | There is a 2.6.15 in backports.org for sarge. |
| 16:44.34 | Snadder | nice.. is it?.. |
| 16:44.42 | thingfish | it seems to work. |
| 16:44.42 | kookaburra | is there an easy way to hook up a bootsplash for sarge? or is the only way to recompile the kernel and add a patch? |
| 16:44.43 | Maulkin | Lingo: dpkg-reconfigure grub |
| 16:44.45 | Snadder | then i'll use that one instead. |
| 16:45.08 | thingfish | I've been using it for a month now, no problems at all. |
| 16:45.08 | Lingo | Maulkin: is there an option to change the default OS in there? |
| 16:45.25 | Maulkin | Lingo: Probably not. That'll be in your menu list in /boot |
| 16:45.30 | Snadder | thingfish, where did you find thart backport? |
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| 16:45.37 | Maulkin | Lingo: Run grub-install after editing it |
| 16:45.47 | Lingo | K |
| 16:45.51 | Lingo | bye |
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| 16:45.54 | jazbo | Does the installer for floppy installation understand the linux26 boot method? |
| 16:45.54 | Lingo | thx |
| 16:46.10 | thingfish | Snadder: backports.org. I think they give you the sources.list line. Then just proceed as normal. |
| 16:46.20 | Maulkin | jazbo: which one? |
| 16:46.42 | thingfish | Snadder: although look for linux-image rather than kernel-image |
| 16:46.56 | abrotman | it has bloth |
| 16:47.04 | thingfish | for 2.6.15? |
| 16:47.11 | abrotman | metapackage for migration |
| 16:47.21 | jazbo | Maulkin, this one: http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/floppy/ |
| 16:48.36 | phaedral | wOOt; testing works for dvd on my laptop right out of the box |
| 16:48.49 | phaedral | first ever distro that let me watch dvd on my laptop |
| 16:49.04 | prolek | what module is needed for mount usb ??? |
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| 16:49.08 | Thanatermesis | thanks Maulkin, with /dev mounted has work... question: what makes exactly this generation of RSA and DSA ? because this chroot is for a liveCD... then another persons to use it and makes a ssh, what use ? my fingerprint ? |
| 16:49.14 | prolek | i am disaster |
| 16:49.26 | cahoot | prolek: sd_mod and usb-storage |
| 16:49.27 | chuckyp | While I'm gone to bed, I'd like a certain now-runinng program to close down 15 minutes from now. how do i do that? |
| 16:49.31 | prolek | ok |
| 16:49.42 | kookaburra | is bootsplash out of the question without recompiling the kernel for sarge? |
| 16:49.52 | phaedral | chuckyp: cron kill pid? |
| 16:49.57 | abrotman | yes |
| 16:50.08 | Snadder | thingfish, whats the diffrence between linux-image and kernel-image? |
| 16:50.09 | Maulkin | jazbo: I *think* so, but it's been ages since I used floppies to install, so I'm, not sure |
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| 16:50.32 | thingfish | abrotman: an apt-cache search 2.6.15 shows no kernel-image |
| 16:50.44 | ParoXsitiC | I am currently talking to a comcast rep, I do have an additional IP and its accessable VIA DHCP |
| 16:50.56 | basti`DND | Could somebody send me their "edje_thumb" & "edje_test" binary? |
| 16:50.56 | chuckyp | phaedral, but that would be for an absolute time. I thought I saw a way of running an app for x amount of time. Etc.. |
| 16:51.00 | basti`DND | The actual deb-package is incorrect. :/ |
| 16:51.10 | jazbo | Maulkin, yah just was hoping to verify before I go through the pain of trying to make floppies that aren't corrupted... ;) |
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| 16:51.20 | cahoot | chuckyp: look at the 'at' command |
| 16:51.44 | chuckyp | cahoot, ty just what I was looking for |
| 16:51.44 | dvm1981 | I need to convert an dual layer DVD movie to an single layer DVD. I not know where to look. Someone tips and keywords? |
| 16:51.56 | Gamercjm | I was looking at teh unstable packages and i see one that is called "dummy package" does that mean the program is not the full one? |
| 16:52.03 | kookaburra | so, abrotman, to get a bootsplash would I need to grab the 2.6.8 kernel image and compile that? or could I recompile the kernel I'm using? kinda confused. haven't compiled a kernel yet. |
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| 16:52.36 | k31th | Guys, i just install sarge i selected grub to install in /dev/hda1 i have booted and checked the menu.list witha live cd all the info is correct yet when i try to boot it all it says is GRUB in the top left |
| 16:52.52 | k31th | hda1 has its boot flag on etc |
| 16:52.58 | k31th | dont get it ? |
| 16:53.12 | k31th | (hd0,0) etc in grub .conf |
| 16:53.17 | Thanatermesis | Maulkin ? |
| 16:53.18 | k31th | sorry i met menu.list |
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| 16:53.31 | Stereo | hi guys |
| 16:53.34 | abrotman | thingfish: let me find it |
| 16:53.45 | k31th | i guess i could reinstall and put it on the mbr? |
| 16:53.47 | abrotman | !bootsplash |
| 16:53.48 | dpkg | methinks bootsplash is http://www.bootsplash.org/ && http://www.bootsplash.de (Themes and updates and debian packages) see also gensplash, or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdeskhks/chapter/hack08.pdf, or download kernel sources, apply bootsplash patches to it, enable frambuffer and disable "bootup logo", compile the kernel, install bootsplash package, patch initrd image with "splash", update boot manager and reboot |
| 16:54.05 | k31th | abrotman: was that for me ? |
| 16:54.18 | abrotman | thingfish: http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ .. see the kernel image files? |
| 16:54.31 | kookaburra | no, that was a big hint for me k31th |
| 16:54.31 | Stereo | I'm not sure whether a box has one or two processors. Should I install the -smp kernel image, or is it a bad idea if it ends up having one? |
| 16:54.35 | kookaburra | thanks man |
| 16:54.35 | abrotman | k31th: no? |
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| 16:54.44 | k31th | oh |
| 16:54.53 | thingfish | abrotman: huh, well yes. I wonder why they didn't show up in my search. |
| 16:54.53 | k31th | anyone got any ideals on my problem ? |
| 16:54.59 | ParoXsitiC | I am looking for someone to assist me in using 2 IP's to point to one linux box. The addtional IP is being paid for and provided by comcast |
| 16:54.59 | unstable | diana@cookooland:~$ gvidcap |
| 16:54.59 | unstable | gvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 16:55.03 | Maulkin | Thanatermesis: Erm... I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 16:55.13 | unstable | What do I need for gvid cap to work? |
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| 16:55.27 | Thanatermesis | Creating SSH2 RSA/DSA key; this may take some time ... |
| 16:55.31 | Thanatermesis | what is that exactly Maulkin ? |
| 16:55.47 | Maulkin | Well, what did you install |
| 16:55.47 | prolek | sd_mod and usb-storage need scsi in kernel ? |
| 16:55.47 | k31th | ahh man this sucks |
| 16:55.48 | Maulkin | ? |
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| 16:56.15 | Maulkin | Thanatermesis: I think that's the server's key generation |
| 16:56.17 | phaedral | i've just looked at man fstab and man mount, don't see an option for "fat32"; what do I use to mount the 5g fat32 part I created for sharing between XP & debian? |
| 16:56.23 | cahoot | prolek: sd_mod = scdsi disk |
| 16:56.29 | jazbo | Anyone know where I could find an picture of that old bootsplash that has Tux with a beer? I haven't seemed to be able to find it |
| 16:56.32 | prolek | i see |
| 16:56.38 | prolek | usb needs scsi |
| 16:56.49 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: DHCP can only hand out one IP address at a time |
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| 16:56.52 | prolek | is correct ? |
| 16:56.54 | Thanatermesis | for what is this key Maulkin ? for what needs my /dev ? i speak this because im building a debootstrap system for ANOTHER persons |
| 16:57.08 | cahoot | prolek: partly yes |
| 16:57.15 | prolek | ok i have to revise my kernel xD |
| 16:57.23 | prolek | i not have scsi |
| 16:57.25 | strider | phaedral: vfat |
| 16:57.26 | prolek | i think |
| 16:57.34 | ParoXsitiC | Maulkin: Comcast rep just told me the way I get access to the additional IP is through DHCP |
| 16:57.40 | Maulkin | Thanatermesis: Ok... /dev is needed because it contains /dev/random whcih is the random data used to generate the key |
| 16:57.53 | phaedral | strider: thanks! |
| 16:57.59 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: DHCP can only hand out one IP address at a time. |
| 16:58.02 | Goat25 | what does /etc/init.d/nviboot do? |
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| 16:59.04 | ParoXsitiC | Maulkin: What if I take my current DHCP connection, turn it static and use the 2nd as DHCP |
| 16:59.09 | Goat25 | i'm used to using vim but i'm wondering if nvi has any advantages |
| 16:59.19 | prolek | thanks !! |
| 16:59.20 | Thanatermesis | ah.. just a random generation... this sounds good then :) |
| 16:59.37 | kookaburra | ok, so a bootsplash is way too much work considering I hardly ever reboot anyway. |
| 16:59.53 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: That may work, it depends what your modem is doing :) |
| 17:00.07 | plbgnr | hello, can anyone tell me what am i doing wrong? I want to get working module quickam for my webcam, I installed kernel-source-2.6.8, unpacked it and then in unpacked dir cp /boot/config-2.6.8-2-386 .boot && make-kpkg --append-to-version "-2-386" --revision 2.6.8-2.386 --config oldconfig configure ...it ends with some errors :( |
| 17:00.52 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: Try it and see what happens |
| 17:01.20 | Maulkin | kookaburra: YEah, I never really bother with a bootsplash |
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| 17:01.24 | charzero | should i use vnc4server, vncserver, or tightvncserver? |
| 17:01.36 | abrotman | youpick |
| 17:01.36 | Maulkin | charzero: Depends which you want to use |
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| 17:01.59 | mr_claus | hmm, after a debootstrap of sarge my /var on the new system is empty |
| 17:02.04 | cristian | use tghtvncserver |
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| 17:02.39 | Goat25 | why is there /etc/init.d/urandom? why does the random seed need be saved between reboot? |
| 17:02.46 | Maulkin | mr_claus: Yes, read /usr/share/doc/debootstrap/README.Debian |
| 17:03.02 | cahoot | charzero: yesterdays recommendation was vnc4server |
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| 17:03.26 | cristian | sudo apt-get install xtightvncviewer |
| 17:03.29 | Maulkin | mr_claus: No, sorry, read "man debootstrap" |
| 17:03.31 | charzero | cahoot: so i'll flip a 3 sided coin. is there a comparison of the 3 anywhere? |
| 17:03.48 | cahoot | charzero: sorry no idea |
| 17:03.53 | Maulkin | charzero: Try google |
| 17:04.00 | ptee | hi, is there any side-effect if i downgrade from unstable to testing ? |
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| 17:04.13 | Maulkin | ptee: You can't officially do so |
| 17:04.16 | abrotman | !downgrade |
| 17:04.16 | dpkg | i heard downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. |
| 17:04.34 | charzero | google needs regex support. |
| 17:04.44 | ptee | maulkin : why's that? i though i jus simply change the source.list & called upgrade ..? |
| 17:04.58 | ptee | maulkin : an unofficially ? |
| 17:04.59 | abrotman | to downgreade? |
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| 17:05.09 | ptee | abrotman : yes. |
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| 17:05.19 | Maulkin | ptee: See that line from dpkg as to why |
| 17:05.20 | Gamercjm | What does "dummy package" mean on this package? unstable (comm): Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX) - dummy package |
| 17:05.26 | Maulkin | And yes, it's not officially possible |
| 17:05.39 | mr_claus | Maulkin: sry, i cannot find the solution, i have done the debootstrap with etch systems a lot of times and i used the same command with another systemname |
| 17:05.53 | mr_claus | Maulkin: there is no information in the manpage why it should not work with sarge |
| 17:05.59 | ptee | maulkin ; i got the broken parts, so i tried it just right again... do you know if it is anyway possible? |
| 17:06.01 | Maulkin | mr_claus: Did you mount it? |
| 17:06.11 | dpm | is there a way to tell the sarge installer I only want to install gnome as a desktop environment? atm, when I select the "Desktop" option at the end of the installation, it installs kde and gnome, and unless I run aptitude, there's nothing I can do to unselect kde |
| 17:06.13 | mr_claus | Maulkin: yes of course |
| 17:06.23 | Maulkin | mr_claus: Are you sure? |
| 17:06.27 | Snadder | ok.. now I managed to get up 2.6.15 with the module snd_ca0106... but I cant get xmms to play any music. |
| 17:06.30 | Maulkin | Go check |
| 17:06.33 | mr_claus | Maulkin: i will do it again to be sure |
| 17:06.41 | Snadder | I even choose the alsaplugin |
| 17:06.53 | Maulkin | ptee: It is possible, but it's not easy |
| 17:06.59 | cahoot | Snadder: unmuted etc? |
| 17:06.59 | Snadder | in xmms.. and saw 0106 |
| 17:07.03 | ptee | maulkin ; now, i lost my x-windows and i cannot browse to any web but with lynx... |
| 17:07.10 | phaedral | i'm trying to get wifi working, using howto at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/InstallDebian |
| 17:07.19 | ptee | maulkin : any hint to do so? |
| 17:07.25 | Snadder | cahoot, yep.. I have unmuted.. but xmms just dont find the sound socket. |
| 17:07.25 | phaedral | I'm at the step "Install Windows Driver" |
| 17:07.37 | Snadder | ops.. |
| 17:07.38 | Maulkin | ptee: If you don't know how to do it already, I don't really want to tell you, because it's very very hard |
| 17:07.42 | Snadder | forget it.. two sec |
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| 17:07.56 | phaedral | runing ndiswrapper I'm getting "Forcing paramerter..." |
| 17:07.58 | cahoot | Snadder: does 'fuser -v /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p' return anything? |
| 17:08.00 | phaedral | any hints? |
| 17:08.02 | ptee | maulikin : are you kidding? that very very hard thing? |
| 17:08.04 | Maulkin | ptee: It's easier to backup and re-install |
| 17:08.14 | Snadder | cahoot, nothing |
| 17:08.27 | Snadder | damn.. my mp3's is gone.. so I guess thats why xmms dosnt play them:p |
| 17:08.29 | AlexCTI | Hi, Someone can help me make and upgrade of my kernel 2.4 to 2.6? |
| 17:08.45 | cahoot | Snadder: might be a reason |
| 17:08.47 | Snadder | I need a driver for my onboard raid card. |
| 17:09.02 | pitillo | AlexCTI, you can use a precompiled image or compile your kernel manually |
| 17:09.03 | Snadder | RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20276 (MBFastTrak133 Lite) (rev 01) |
| 17:09.19 | ptee | maulkin ; are u kidding with that re-install? i had lately with xine & my x-windows & things, i think i'd better to run testing.... |
| 17:09.23 | Snadder | I had to take those discs out of /etc/fstab |
| 17:09.27 | Maulkin | Snadder: Tried google? |
| 17:09.44 | pitillo | Snadder, are there support into the kernel for your raid card? |
| 17:10.03 | Snadder | pitillo, it was in my old kernel.. 2.6.8 |
| 17:10.04 | Maulkin | ptee: we don't support downgrading. It is possible, but you really need to know what you're doing |
| 17:10.21 | Maulkin | ptee: As it *will* breaak things horribly, and you'll need to fix them |
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| 17:10.31 | elpolilla | hi |
| 17:10.32 | ptee | maulkin : alright, i finished update with testing..we'll see .. |
| 17:10.34 | pitillo | Snadder, and in your new kernel do you have support? |
| 17:10.46 | strider | ptee: run apt-get dist-downgrade |
| 17:10.48 | elpolilla | which is the sids official sources repository? |
| 17:11.09 | abrotman | !mirrors |
| 17:11.09 | dpkg | rumour has it, debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
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| 17:11.24 | Snadder | pitillo, seems I got support already.. just some strange error when I booted my system which didnt find it. |
| 17:11.25 | ptee | strider : hey, that's coool! i didn't notice this in apt man page..(i was blind?) |
| 17:11.34 | elpolilla | k |
| 17:11.41 | elpolilla | thanks |
| 17:11.57 | pitillo | Snadder, the try to paste your error at google... sure you'll get some interesting info |
| 17:11.57 | Snadder | now xmms is actually playing.. brb.. |
| 17:12.19 | Snadder | pitillo, well.. atm I dont got any error to paste.. hehe.. two sec;) |
| 17:12.25 | toni__ | hi folks,i got a server where cfdisk is not able to read the home partition fs type. Can i reassign the partiont type (ext3) without losing data? thanks |
| 17:12.36 | Snadder | maybe everything works nice now.. |
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| 17:13.10 | ParoXsitiC | What is needed for a DHCP connection to be configured as static |
| 17:13.10 | ptee | strider : dist-downgrade didn't appeared in manpage ? |
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| 17:13.32 | Maulkin | ptee: That's because it doesn't exist |
| 17:13.34 | strider | ptee: yeah. heh |
| 17:13.40 | ptee | how can i check the version of debian ? |
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| 17:13.52 | Maulkin | ptee: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 17:13.53 | strider | ptee: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 17:14.01 | ptee | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.01 | strider | heh |
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| 17:14.33 | ptee | what the heck it meant for testing/unstable ? |
| 17:15.02 | Maulkin | ? |
| 17:15.07 | ptee | it didn't claim to be one of the two but both? |
| 17:15.10 | abrotman | it means if you're asking us .. you're already fucked |
| 17:15.20 | ptee | maulkin : it returns me testing/unstable |
| 17:15.32 | kookaburra | mixed system |
| 17:15.39 | strider | that means you are running testing or unstable. |
| 17:15.44 | mutante | i had started an apt-get upgrade on a remote server and then my ssh connection terminated due to client timeout. now i can not repeat the upgrade ,because "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock" there is also still a long dpkg commandline in "ps aux". How should i fix it? |
| 17:15.45 | basti`DND | Lookin' for xmms-skin --> http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=288 |
| 17:15.50 | kookaburra | I bet your sources.list is interesting |
| 17:15.57 | Maulkin | ptee: Yes, that's because you're running testing or unstable |
| 17:16.08 | mutante | just killing the process sounds dangerous |
| 17:16.11 | elpolilla | its not mixed system |
| 17:16.14 | strider | what does dpkg -l libc6 tell you |
| 17:16.17 | ptee | <kookaburra> ~i guess so. btw, it thought it should return the most relevant version not both of them...hrrrr.. |
| 17:16.19 | elpolilla | i have sid and says testing/unstable |
| 17:16.20 | ParoXsitiC | When trying to make a eth0:0 for an additional IP it replies with 'Ignoring unknown interface eht0:0=eht0:0. |
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| 17:16.33 | elpolilla | and i never mixed repositories |
| 17:16.37 | kookaburra | I don't really know since I just run stable |
| 17:16.57 | elpolilla | in etch and sid that file says testing/unstable |
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| 17:17.03 | Snadder | pitillo, ok.. now xmms plays the song. but no sound.. |
| 17:17.08 | Maulkin | It will say "testing/unstable" if you're running either of them |
| 17:17.13 | ptee | strider : libc6 2.3.5-8 |
| 17:17.16 | kookaburra | ah. ok |
| 17:17.17 | strider | Relax that does not indicate a mixed system. if it were a mixed system, the file would'nt be mixed as well! |
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| 17:17.32 | Snadder | pitillo, when I turn the volum up/down I dont see any changes in alsamixer |
| 17:17.41 | Maulkin | Becuase of the way testing/unstabel works |
| 17:17.45 | Liquid_Ic | i'm trying to make a cf bootable debian image. i can now boot into the shell, but i have no eth0 to connect and download packages. how do i create the network device? |
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| 17:17.54 | Snadder | pitillo, when I turn the volum up/down in xmms.. I dont see any changes in alsamixer. |
| 17:17.58 | Snadder | ... I mean |
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| 17:18.02 | ptee | huhuhuh... i guess the next step is to try to recover my x window ... |
| 17:18.05 | Maulkin | ptee: Basically, you cannot downgrade |
| 17:18.20 | ptee | maulkin : well, i have no choice.. |
| 17:18.41 | Maulkin | ptee: Correct, you cannot downgrade :) |
| 17:18.57 | Maulkin | Liquid_Ic: You'll need to load the right kernel module |
| 17:19.00 | ptee | maulkin : nope : )) you know what i meant. |
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| 17:19.16 | Maulkin | ptee: Yes, but you still can't downgrade :P |
| 17:19.20 | Liquid_Ic | Maulkin, ok i'll try, thanks |
| 17:19.22 | ptee | maulkin : anyway, i changed the source.list and rerun the apt-get .. |
| 17:19.22 | strider | ptee: well, i think you're running an unupdated etch install |
| 17:20.38 | ptee | strider : what do u meant ? firstly, i had the problem with xine, then i had to fetch some package about that x, so i had to install xorg instead of xfree86, then i lost all my x window!!! |
| 17:21.01 | Maulkin | !drxx |
| 17:21.01 | dpkg | drxx is probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 17:21.13 | Maulkin | That should fix it |
| 17:21.21 | ptee | maulkin : okie, i 'll give it a try, brb. |
| 17:21.40 | Liquid_Ic | Maulkin, So i have to load the module with modprobe? how can i found out which module i should load? |
| 17:21.41 | Snadder | damn.. I dont get any sound in my soundcard:\ |
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| 17:22.19 | AlexCTI | Hi, Actually i have running 2.4.XX Kernel, and I want upgrade to the last stable kernel< some familiar with that that can help me? |
| 17:22.51 | Snadder | wow.. fuser -v /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p returns xmms |
| 17:23.00 | Snadder | but still.. no sound. |
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| 17:23.10 | ParoXsitiC | Can someone please help me. I have 2 NICs, 1 cable modem and 2 IPs.....I want both IPs to point to the same computer. |
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| 17:23.45 | Maulkin | Liquid_Ic: Well, that'll depend on the chipset used by the card. Try discover to automaticlaly recognise it |
| 17:23.46 | gadfly | who here regularly builds from deb src? |
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| 17:24.27 | norskfjord | fuckin mysql |
| 17:24.59 | ptee | maulkin : neither the bin nor the package name? what is drmaulkin : i call the it, it returns nothing. i had all the necessary x packages, they are installed properly, but i just cannot simply start any x-display-manager..any idea |
| 17:25.01 | ptee | ? |
| 17:25.38 | Maulkin | What? |
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| 17:25.46 | Maulkin | Sorry, I don't understand that |
| 17:26.15 | ptee | maulkin : i call the ~reconfigure but it seems to be no problem |
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| 17:26.34 | ptee | maulkin : i just cannot start any x ... |
| 17:26.46 | Maulkin | ptee: What errors occur? |
| 17:26.51 | Maulkin | Anything in the logs? |
| 17:27.11 | mr_claus | Maulkin: anything was wrong with /var, it runs now, my fault :/ |
| 17:27.39 | Xtiano | bye....... |
| 17:27.50 | Maulkin | mr_claus: :) |
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| 17:28.35 | Liquid_Ic | which files contain the kernel? I think maybe if i upgrade my kernel it will automatically detect my network |
| 17:28.54 | ma3x | hello when I mplayer file, I get this result AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 384.0 kbit/25.00% (ratio: 48000->192000) |
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| 17:29.07 | ma3x | my question is, what does the percentage mean: 384.0 kbit/25.00% ? |
| 17:29.14 | ma3x | is that a compression level? |
| 17:29.21 | Maulkin | yes |
| 17:30.01 | ma3x | now when I encode with mencoder, how do I set that to %15? |
| 17:30.15 | blondie | #mplayer |
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| 17:31.23 | Maulkin | man mencoder |
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| 17:32.55 | Buddha| | Could someone help me with this error: http://pastebin.com/609255 ? |
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| 17:34.06 | ParoXsitiC | Can someone please help me. I have 2 NICs, 1 cable modem and 2 IPs.....I want both IPs to point to the same computer. |
| 17:34.26 | ptee | maulkin : can we explicitly call X to start an x-window session ? |
| 17:35.23 | Maulkin | ptee: I'd suggest /etc/init.d/{g,k,x}dm start |
| 17:35.24 | ptee | maulkin : do u use X.org ? i guess, perhaps something is not ok with the configure file ...not sure.. |
| 17:35.38 | ptee | maulkin : none of that work. |
| 17:35.54 | Maulkin | And what errors are produced? |
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| 17:36.18 | stelios | hi everyone! I accidentally upgraded to unstable, and now when I boot up my pci ide controller is detected first, I tried booting with parameter ide0=0x1f0 (where it identifies my motherboard controler as ide2) with no luck any ideas? |
| 17:36.54 | ptee | maulkin : from the log file : server for display :0 cannot be started, session disable . |
| 17:37.04 | Maulkin | ptee: And before that? |
| 17:37.17 | Maulkin | ptee: Could you pastebin the log file please? |
| 17:37.48 | dvm1981 | In which language is dpkg writed? |
| 17:38.04 | ptee | maulkin : i don't know how to pass that on the ircII (i used the console) & i dont know much about the command. |
| 17:38.08 | dvm1981 | dpkg the bot! |
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| 17:38.55 | ptee | maulkin : how can i send the file through the irc ? i tried with /help but i had the problem to get out of that help |
| 17:39.06 | Tagor | Can someone tell me if it is possible to put the bootable iso of debian on a usb stick? |
| 17:39.14 | ptee | how to exit the /help on irc ? |
| 17:39.16 | Shadda | yes. It is possible. |
| 17:39.18 | Maulkin | ptee: www.pastebin.org |
| 17:39.19 | Shadda | next! |
| 17:39.20 | unstable | Tagor: of course it's possible |
| 17:39.27 | kookaburra | wow... |
| 17:39.27 | Tagor | unstable >> Can you tell me how? |
| 17:39.32 | unstable | Tagor: no |
| 17:39.36 | Shadda | Tagor, go look at damnsmalllinux |
| 17:39.51 | Shadda | They have a tutorial for it, I believe |
| 17:39.52 | Maulkin | dvm1981: perl |
| 17:40.03 | Maulkin | dvm1981: It's a blootbot |
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| 17:40.18 | cappiz | anyone here that could help me out with making a all.chr file for john the ripper? |
| 17:40.20 | dvm1981 | Maulkin: Thanks. :-) |
| 17:40.26 | Tagor | unstable >> You don't want to or you don't know how to? Shadda >> I want to use the original iso of debian instead of some strange project iso's |
| 17:40.34 | stelios | hi everyone! I accidentally upgraded to unstable, and now when I boot up my pci ide controller is detected first so my original hda become hde, I tried booting with parameter ide0=0x1f0 (where it identifies my motherboard controler as ide2) with no luck any ideas? |
| 17:40.35 | Maulkin | dvm1981: No problems :) |
| 17:40.47 | unstable | !tell stelios about repeat |
| 17:41.01 | abrotman | how do you accidentally upgrade to unstable? |
| 17:41.01 | ptee | maulkin : ?? it is about the ads, i see no place to paste the code.. |
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| 17:41.18 | kookaburra | how did you "accidentally" upgrade to sid? you have to change your sources.list intentionally for that don't you? |
| 17:41.23 | unstable | stelios: reformat |
| 17:41.41 | stelios | unsatble: really? |
| 17:41.48 | stelios | unstable: really? |
| 17:42.04 | abrotman | that's not a very good answer |
| 17:42.10 | Maulkin | ptee: Sorry, patebin.com |
| 17:42.23 | ptee | maulkin : what does it mean /etc/X11/X is not executable ? |
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| 17:42.28 | abrotman | stelios: there should be a way to do it another way |
| 17:42.43 | Maulkin | ptee: It's not an executable file |
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| 17:43.11 | phaedral | is there a way to read a .gz in /usr/share/doc w/o gunzipping it first? |
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| 17:43.17 | kronoz | hi, will there be a debian live cd? i heard something about one |
| 17:43.19 | Maulkin | phaedral: zless |
| 17:43.41 | Maulkin | kronoz: Possibly, it is something that's being looked at |
| 17:43.49 | stelios | abrotman: I googled for kernel parameters and from what I understand ide0=xxx should do the trick, but it doesn't |
| 17:43.50 | phaedral | Maulkin: thanks; you'd think I'd have heard of that before... |
| 17:44.17 | abrotman | stelios: maybe you could try some module rules? |
| 17:44.18 | ptee | maulkin : i don't know how to paste my file via lynx to the web.... |
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| 17:44.52 | ptee | maulkin : this /etc/X11/X is appeared also in the xdm.log ...that's why i am curious. |
| 17:44.56 | stelios | abrotman: it does not find the root partition so no modules are loaded it's all in the kernel |
| 17:44.57 | Maulkin | ptee: Ok... well tell me the lines that stert with EE: |
| 17:45.14 | ptee | maulkin : ehrrrr...what is EE? |
| 17:45.16 | abrotman | stelios: oh .. you compiled your own? |
| 17:45.45 | Maulkin | ptee: look in teh log file. some lines with start with "EE:" |
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| 17:46.34 | stelios | abrotman: nope I change the apt sources to unstable and then did an upgrade after the reboot it was like that |
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| 17:48.39 | abrotman | stelios: and you can't find any docs on doing what you want?> |
| 17:48.44 | ptee | maulkin : strange enough, the log of Xorg.0.log contain no EE (error) at all. |
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| 17:50.08 | ptee | maulkin : hrrr.... should i remove Xorg package and reinstall xfree86? |
| 17:50.29 | abrotman | why? |
| 17:50.37 | abrotman | post your X log somewhere |
| 17:50.37 | abrotman | !paste |
| 17:50.37 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 17:50.58 | Maulkin | abrotman: No GUI :| |
| 17:51.09 | Maulkin | ptee: Try "dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg" |
| 17:51.26 | phaedral | should ifconfig -a show wlan0? all i get is l0, eth0, and sit0 |
| 17:51.26 | abrotman | Maulkin: so use #flood .. paste in there |
| 17:51.36 | strider | ptee: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep EE say anything? |
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| 17:51.52 | Maulkin | abrotman: I think it's the copying bit he's having problems with :) |
| 17:51.55 | abrotman | ptee: are you IRCing from the machine with the problem ? |
| 17:51.56 | maher | phaedral: yes - try iwconfig too |
| 17:52.00 | ptee | maulkin : when i started the xdm again, it complains again that it cannot start the xserver at : 0 |
| 17:52.02 | phaedral | maher: thanks |
| 17:52.05 | abrotman | Maulkin: let's see |
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| 17:52.14 | ptee | abrotman : yes, only one i have. |
| 17:52.20 | abrotman | ptee: /j #flood |
| 17:52.22 | abrotman | Maulkin: you too |
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| 17:52.29 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
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| 17:52.46 | ptee | strider : nothing that but EE(error) on the line of explaination. |
| 17:52.55 | abrotman | ptee: please /join #flood |
| 17:53.09 | ptee | abrotman : what is #flood for ? |
| 17:53.16 | abrotman | ptee: for us to help you :) |
| 17:53.58 | ptee | abrotman : but the channel name sounds disguse to me, ehr sorry to be honest. |
| 17:54.16 | Fox_1_ | how to redirect all packets which comes to 80 port(i need to redirect them to the an other computers 3128 port)? |
| 17:54.17 | stelios | abrotman: I found some documentation on kernel parameters but I understood that you can do what I want with ide0=0x1f0 (I see in dmesg that it identifies ide2 at 0x1f0) |
| 17:54.19 | abrotman | ptee: oh ffs .. we're trying to help you .. it's where we can see your X log |
| 17:54.20 | unstable | Why is cinerella not in debian? |
| 17:54.42 | abrotman | unstable: noone asked for it? |
| 17:54.47 | ptee | abrotman : how can you see my X log ? it is under my pc, eh? |
| 17:54.52 | kookaburra | ptee is in way over his head I believe |
| 17:54.58 | abrotman | ptee: i will explain it to you when you get there |
| 17:55.00 | phaedral | iwconfig shows same three; l0, eth0, sit0 |
| 17:55.05 | abrotman | ptee: please /join #flood |
| 17:55.11 | strider | ptee: damn |
| 17:55.38 | ptee | strider : what did i do wrong ? |
| 17:55.44 | Maulkin | unstable: probably because of licence issues |
| 17:55.51 | maher | ptee: #flood is a channel where you can paste as much a you like |
| 17:55.56 | kookaburra | ptee, #flood is where you can paste large amounts of text at once |
| 17:56.00 | strider | !tell ptee about flood |
| 17:56.14 | maher | phaedral: i uspect your wifi card is not working atm |
| 17:56.15 | stelios | abrotman: in the linux bootprompt howto. I also tried pci=bios and pci=nobios in hope that this would change the detection order |
| 17:56.16 | abrotman | either he wants help or he doesn't |
| 17:56.27 | abrotman | stelios: what if you disable hde in your BIOS? |
| 17:56.38 | ma3x | what's the difference between scaling and aspect ratio of the video? |
| 17:56.41 | ptee | maher : okie. sorry that i know very little. i am not used to with irc thing. i just used to with browsing teh net. that's all i do with my computer. |
| 17:56.41 | Maulkin | unstable: see http://bugs.debian.org/156614 |
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| 17:56.52 | ma3x | let's say I have black frames on the left and right |
| 17:56.57 | maher | ptee: yeah - irc is for losers anyway.... |
| 17:56.57 | strider | ptee: remove the tinfoil hat for a moment ;) |
| 17:57.04 | ma3x | and then if I do aspect ratio: 4/3 , the video is good |
| 17:57.05 | phaedral | maher: okay; just remembered, last box wifi had to be on in XP before rebooting to debian; will try that... |
| 17:57.12 | ma3x | so there is no need to rescale it, or??? |
| 17:57.17 | kookaburra | ...teh net and sheesh |
| 17:57.19 | ma3x | I don't understand this filter scale exactly |
| 17:57.22 | ma3x | what is it meant to be? |
| 17:57.24 | maher | phaedral: does it show up in lspci / lsusb whatever |
| 17:57.54 | Maulkin | ma3x: rescale changes the size of the image, aspect ratio changes the shape of it. |
| 17:58.10 | stelios | abrotman: the ide card does not allow me to disable a disk from the bios, but when I remove the card it boots normally |
| 17:58.13 | unstable | How can I rfp on marillat? |
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| 17:58.22 | abrotman | stelios: i meant the PC bios :) |
| 17:58.32 | maher | unstable: send him cash by paypal :) |
| 17:58.37 | ParoXsitiC | how do i download things from the bash. I know links is a bash browser, but how would i download a file |
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| 17:58.41 | abrotman | stelios: there must be a way ... |
| 17:58.48 | abrotman | ParoXsitiC: wget or curl |
| 17:58.50 | DeAD_MoRoZz | òõóóëéå åóôø??? |
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| 17:58.57 | maher | ParoXsitiC: wget or read the links keybinding doc |
| 17:58.57 | Maulkin | ParoXsitiC: wget? |
| 17:59.07 | ParoXsitiC | wget is what i was thinking, thanks |
| 17:59.14 | Maulkin | !ru |
| 17:59.15 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
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| 18:00.03 | phaedral | maher: sorry, just started reboot; the broadcom card does, however, show under lspci |
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| 18:00.42 | stelios | abrotman: my pc has a dual controller hda,hdb,hdc,hdd I have a pci card that I use for hde and hdf , Now I have hde->hda,hdf->hdb hda->hde,hdb->hdf,hdc->hdg,hdd->hdh. |
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| 18:00.53 | maher | phaedral: ok - if you're trying to use ndiswrapper on it I might not be of much help... |
| 18:00.54 | DeAD_MoRoZz | 4ôï îåô òõóóëéè þôï ìé?? |
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| 18:01.15 | phaedral | ndiswrapper is what I'm trying :) worked on the last box |
| 18:01.17 | valdyn | ma3x: if you can use -vo xv you dont need software scaling anyway |
| 18:01.22 | phaedral | of course taht was then and this is now... |
| 18:01.22 | Maulkin | DeAD_MoRoZz: Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian |
| 18:01.34 | stelios | abrotman: that's because it identifies the ide card as ide0,ide1 and the onboard controller as ide2,ide3 |
| 18:01.38 | abrotman | stelios: i understand the problem .. i just have no idea how to get the kernel to do what you need |
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| 18:01.41 | ma3x | valdyn, no, I need this to do a DVD |
| 18:01.53 | valdyn | ma3x: you what? |
| 18:02.08 | phaedral | maher: i'm not aware of any alternatives to ndiswrapper; would be happy to follow your clue... |
| 18:02.14 | ma3x | the problem is that I don't see difference between encoding 1. -vf scale=720:576 + aspect ratio 4/3 and 2. only aspect ratio 5/4 |
| 18:02.16 | valdyn | ma3x: mplayer should scale dvds properly if you play them like mplayer -dvd-device file dvd:// |
| 18:02.18 | stelios | abrotman: perhaps can you point me in a direction? or at least some novel google terms? |
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| 18:02.38 | abrotman | stelios: let me try google a few minutes |
| 18:02.38 | ma3x | valdyn, I want to play the DVD on a DVD standalone player afterwards, not on computer |
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| 18:03.25 | maher | phaedral: i think with broadcom you are out of luck and have to use ndiswrapper - if it shows up in lspci the kernel at last sees the device which is a pre-requisite... |
| 18:03.39 | phaedral | cool |
| 18:03.55 | valdyn | ma3x: so you need to scale the dvd up to dvd pixels ( 720:576 or whatever ), and define the source aspect ratio so scaling can be done properly.. |
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| 18:05.08 | nexus | how do i use apt-get to remove gnome window manager |
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| 18:05.55 | strider | !tell nexus about remove gnome |
| 18:05.58 | ma3x | valdyn, listen: I have this RAW video with black frames on the right and left. and when encoding, if I only define the aspect ratio (4/3) the blackframes disappear. and if I define the ratio with rescale, then they disappear and it's exactly the same as without rescaling. So do I really need to rescale or just the aspect ratio? |
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| 18:06.31 | valdyn | ma3x: looks like your source already has suitable dimension |
| 18:06.33 | nicolas_1 | ouf, mariele matherson is so hot |
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| 18:06.37 | valdyn | ma3x: i mean resolution |
| 18:06.39 | phaedral | no wlan0 in either ifconfig or iwconfig output |
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| 18:06.41 | phaedral | bugger |
| 18:06.45 | nicolas_1 | i just cant believe she uses linux |
| 18:07.02 | digijohn | Hey, I want to make X stop listening on the network; what file do I need to modify? |
| 18:07.09 | digijohn | I run X with "startx" |
| 18:07.10 | abrotman | it's not |
| 18:07.18 | abrotman | unless you changed it to do that |
| 18:07.26 | valdyn | ma3x: your source could theoreticaly be 2000:1000 pixels, _that_ you would defenitely want to scale down |
| 18:07.43 | digijohn | abrotman: Are you talking to me? Because nmap shows that it is on that port |
| 18:07.46 | abrotman | stelios: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0305.1/0979.html .. maybe that? |
| 18:07.51 | abrotman | digijohn: really .. on what IP? |
| 18:07.58 | maher | phaedral: have you loaded the drivers- what did it say in the logs when youdid? |
| 18:08.00 | digijohn | heh... no way |
| 18:08.12 | abrotman | ? |
| 18:08.18 | stelios | abrotman: cheers mate looking into it |
| 18:08.29 | maher | digijohn: add a nolisten somewhere in /etc/X11 |
| 18:08.35 | abrotman | stelios: i'm not 100% sure that's what you want |
| 18:08.46 | ParoXsitiC | Can someone please help me. I have 2 NICs, 1 cable modem and 2 IPs.....I want both IPs to point to the same computer. |
| 18:08.49 | abrotman | digijohn: i meant . .is it listening on 127.0.0.1 or 0.0.0.0 ? |
| 18:08.59 | beered | digijohn: or you can 'startx --nolisten tcp' |
| 18:09.04 | phaedral | maher: will check logs; guess I should have sooner |
| 18:09.06 | digijohn | abrotman: Oh, no. I'm scanning it from another computer |
| 18:09.28 | digijohn | abrotman: Port 6000 is open when checked from the interweb |
| 18:09.31 | strider | nicolas_1: hmm, i don't see a pic in her blog |
| 18:09.35 | abrotman | digijohn: debians's X doesn't do that by default |
| 18:09.57 | nicolas_1 | strider: in the albums sections, up right corner, there is couple of pics of her, really hot |
| 18:09.59 | maher | phaedral: check lsmod too |
| 18:10.01 | digijohn | abrotman: No, I'm actually on Splack, but #debian is usually quite busy and helpful, so I'm asking here. And in #linux |
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| 18:10.15 | digijohn | abrotman: I figured the configs should be the same |
| 18:10.19 | nicolas_1 | shes almost perfect |
| 18:10.37 | DeAD_MoRoZz | Who know channels about Warcraft??? |
| 18:10.37 | valdyn | ParoXsitiC: they do that without you doing anything |
| 18:10.39 | strider | nicolas_1: haha, i noticed the /quit before. didn't click on it heh |
| 18:10.42 | beered | nicolas_1: who? |
| 18:10.56 | phaedral | lsmod: what am I looking for? ndiswrapper is second entry in output |
| 18:11.02 | nicolas_1 | beered: mariele matherson http://mariele.cool-blog.com/album/ |
| 18:11.06 | DeAD_MoRoZz | yeah |
| 18:11.06 | DeAD_MoRoZz | Do you know? |
| 18:11.07 | abrotman | digijohn: well .. the location of file would be different |
| 18:11.10 | valdyn | ParoXsitiC: oh, nm, ask your ISP |
| 18:11.11 | strider | beered: /lastlog mariele |
| 18:11.12 | nicolas_1 | beered: she was here a couple of minutes ago |
| 18:11.20 | beered | nicolas_1: darn. |
| 18:11.22 | digijohn | abrotman: Oh... well, what would you use in debian? |
| 18:11.28 | ParoXsitiC | valdyn: I did. Comcast. They know nothing and told me I need a hub and two computers. |
| 18:11.43 | beered | digijohn: I have answered your question. |
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| 18:11.49 | strider | nicolas_1: you stalker! you |
| 18:11.51 | valdyn | ParoXsitiC: so are they routing both IPs to you already? |
| 18:11.52 | Fox_1_ | how to redirect all packets which comes to 80 port(i need to redirect them to the an other computers 3128 port)? |
| 18:11.53 | maher | phaedral: well ndiswrappper is loaded then - see if it says anything in the log |
| 18:11.55 | ParoXsitiC | valdyn: they have been charging for an additional IP for months, i figured id take advantage |
| 18:12.00 | ma3x | valdyn, how do I find out how many pixels is my source? |
| 18:12.08 | ParoXsitiC | valdyn: yeah. i pay for 2. I can have 2 |
| 18:12.10 | digijohn | beered: Thank you; however, I'd like it to be the default as well. |
| 18:12.14 | phaedral | maher: embarassed to say, not sure which log or where... |
| 18:12.17 | valdyn | ma3x: mplayer will generally show that when you play it |
| 18:12.21 | beered | digijohn: you can put that in your .bashrc |
| 18:12.23 | abrotman | digijohn: for me .. /etc/gdm/gdm.conf .. DisallowTCP=True |
| 18:12.27 | maher | phaedral: start with syslog, then try kernel.log |
| 18:12.40 | valdyn | ParoXsitiC: man ifconfig |
| 18:12.47 | digijohn | abrotman: Okay... but since I don't have gdm, I guess I'll just have to do --nolisten tcp :-) |
| 18:13.03 | abrotman | digijohn: how are you starting x? |
| 18:13.04 | ParoXsitiC | valdyn: the only thing i can think of is creating a fake ethernet with a spoofed MAC address. comcast only likes using DHCP and their DHCP is based on mac addresses |
| 18:13.10 | digijohn | abrotman: startx |
| 18:13.17 | valdyn | ParoXsitiC: no, search for alias in 'man ifconfig' |
| 18:13.24 | abrotman | digijohn: maybe you oculd put it in /etc/X11/ somewhere? |
| 18:13.33 | beered | digijohn: good grief man. just create an alias with 'startx --nolisten tcp' |
| 18:13.37 | digijohn | abrotman: Yeah, but I don't know where |
| 18:13.56 | cahoot | beered: not startx - --nolisten etc? |
| 18:14.10 | dooglus | digijohn: look at your /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc -- mine says "exec X -nolisten tcp", doesn't yours? |
| 18:14.11 | abrotman | digijohn: for me /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc .. i think |
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| 18:14.38 | phaedral | hmm; good lead; looks like it's choking on the wifi driver "not 32 bit; bad magic" |
| 18:14.41 | digijohn | dooglus: I don't have that file |
| 18:15.00 | beered | digijohn: maybe you should use debian then? |
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| 18:15.13 | digijohn | beered: Can't install debian on this SPARCstation. |
| 18:15.15 | phaedral | i'm running an i386 testing, but d/l a 64bit driver; problem |
| 18:15.21 | digijohn | beered: I tried Debian first |
| 18:15.27 | Phroziac | How can I set debian up to be able to print to a konica minolta pagepro 1350W, sver samnba? I've never set up printing on linux before. |
| 18:15.30 | beered | digijohn: use startx --nolisten tcp then. |
| 18:15.33 | sonyman | I'm trying to build Perl 5.8.4 and at the end of the build process it said "dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 777 (must be >=0755 And <=0775) |
| 18:15.34 | maher | phaedral: umm... try a 32 bit driver :) |
| 18:15.38 | sonyman | oops |
| 18:15.40 | dooglus | digijohn: it's a symlink to /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc -- do you have that? |
| 18:15.42 | phaedral | :) |
| 18:15.46 | digijohn | dooglus: Nope |
| 18:15.47 | valdyn | ParoXsitiC: your IP adresses being static you dont need to use dhcp, dont you? |
| 18:15.57 | sonyman | I'm trying to build Perl 5.8.4 and at the end of the build process it said "dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 777 (must be >=0755 And <=0775) |
| 18:15.59 | dooglus | digijohn: which OS are you using? |
| 18:16.00 | sonyman | darn |
| 18:16.12 | digijohn | dooglus: Splack, which is basically Slackware for SPARC |
| 18:16.15 | phaedral | first tried the inf from the XP partition; choked on ndiswrapper -i driver.inf |
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| 18:16.24 | dooglus | digijohn: so why are you asking us about this? |
| 18:16.25 | sonyman | "dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 777 (must be >=0755 And <=0775)" and errored out. Whats wrong? |
| 18:16.30 | phaedral | so searched around, found 64bit and tried; looked liked it succeeded |
| 18:16.32 | kookaburra | why not use debian for sparc? |
| 18:16.34 | phaedral | now I know better |
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| 18:16.57 | digijohn | dooglus: Because the splack channel is not very active, and I had hoped the files would be the same. Apparently they aren't |
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| 18:17.04 | beered | nicolas_1: I'm not sure if it's legal to view those pages bro. |
| 18:17.17 | digijohn | kookaburra: As I said above, I couldn't get it installed. The partitioner didn't function properly |
| 18:17.41 | kookaburra | good lord. |
| 18:18.08 | beered | kookaburra: I like your nick. What does it mean? |
| 18:18.14 | phaedral | arguably it's not the ndiswrapper but the driver, right; so next step is try other drivers? |
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| 18:18.17 | digijohn | beered: It's a bird, dude |
| 18:18.28 | kookaburra | it's an australian bird |
| 18:18.33 | beered | intersting, kookaburra. |
| 18:18.43 | maher | phaedral: yes |
| 18:18.44 | ParoXsitiC | valdyn, no. I dont need to use DHCP, but i cant use static if i dont know which IP they would assign me for the additional IP |
| 18:18.48 | nse | hello everybody! why a process needs to be a child of another? |
| 18:18.57 | digijohn | nse: ? |
| 18:19.13 | maher | nse: everyone has a mummy... |
| 18:19.14 | Goat25 | nse: the init process has no parent |
| 18:19.23 | Phroziac | [raok |
| 18:19.27 | Phroziac | oops |
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| 18:19.31 | blondie | yes |
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| 18:19.47 | abrotman | beered: didn't you ever sing the kookaburra song in grade school? |
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| 18:20.02 | kookaburra | digijohn, what problem did you have with partitioning? |
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| 18:20.22 | nse | digijohn, maher, Goat25: I mean, what's the use? I don't understand why the os can't just create another process independent of anything |
| 18:20.27 | beered | abrotman: grade school? That was 200 years ago dude. |
| 18:20.47 | abrotman | beered: comeon .. i remember .. and it was more than 20 years ago for me :) |
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| 18:21.02 | digijohn | kookaburra: Well, for example, after I created some partitions with the Gentoo netboot image, the Debian partitioner couldn't find them. |
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| 18:21.26 | digijohn | kookaburra: If I told it to go ahead and format the entire disk, it would choke and die with some error about how there are probably too many partitions on the disk |
| 18:21.35 | ParoXsitiC | When making a normal DHCP into a static connection, what would the DHCP server be, the gateway? |
| 18:21.39 | beered | abrotman: I'm preparation-h old. |
| 18:21.57 | digijohn | kookaburra: If I tried to manually partition it, it would act as though my 2 GB hard drive was only about 200 MB |
| 18:22.04 | abrotman | beered: that doesn't mean much ... |
| 18:22.06 | kookaburra | with fdisk? |
| 18:22.11 | abrotman | beered: who was your favorite band in high school? |
| 18:22.32 | Goat25 | nse: the way it works is that the kernel starts one process (usually init) and then every process gets created from within some other process |
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| 18:23.03 | beered | abrotman: You know you are old when you start using Preparation-H. |
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| 18:23.13 | abrotman | beered: young people can use it too |
| 18:23.15 | nse | Goat25: yes I read about this, but what's the role of the parents process? |
| 18:23.29 | beered | abrotman: you are just saying that to make me feel better. |
| 18:23.40 | Shadda | beardy, no, I think you're old when you start confusing it with your polygrip |
| 18:23.42 | beered | abrotman: one min. need to apply some prep-h. brb. |
| 18:23.43 | digijohn | kookaburra: The debian netbood image didn't have fdisk, or at least not that I could find |
| 18:23.46 | Goat25 | nse: the parent is just the process that created the process |
| 18:23.50 | Fraze | Help!.. I think my computer got hacked!.. My screen "hangs" for a few seconds and gets black, and sometimes it justs "moves" fast up and down.. what can i do? |
| 18:24.07 | abrotman | digijohn: cfdisk |
| 18:24.08 | beered | Fraze: calm down first. |
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| 18:24.10 | maelztrom | join #openbsd |
| 18:24.13 | digijohn | abrotman: Didn't find that either |
| 18:24.15 | Shadda | Fraze, very simple |
| 18:24.19 | Shadda | just install AOL For Broadband |
| 18:24.26 | Shadda | It has spyware protection and everything, mang |
| 18:24.57 | Fraze | AOL for broadband ? what's that? |
| 18:25.38 | Fraze | but i'm not using AOL! |
| 18:25.42 | nse | Goat25: and nothing more? |
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| 18:26.04 | beered | grandma: hey, grandma. we should talk... |
| 18:26.04 | maher | nse: when the os creates a new process how does it decide to do that? some currently running process decides it needs a new process - so you only need one process, plus the ablillty to create new ones to have as many processes as you want |
| 18:26.19 | grandpa | grandma: hello. |
| 18:26.25 | zinx | Fraze: stop xscreensaver |
| 18:26.27 | Goat25 | nse: not that i'm aware, parents and children are independent processes, they don't necessarily share memory or other resources |
| 18:26.48 | zinx | Fraze: or make sure your monitor is plugged in firmly, and isn't broken |
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| 18:27.18 | grandpa | I think she is ignoring me. |
| 18:27.29 | jazbo | Fraze, take off the sunglasses and stop jumping up and down? |
| 18:27.44 | dooglus | how can I change the keymap used in virtual terminals? |
| 18:27.53 | resiak | !keymap |
| 18:27.54 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 18:28.08 | dooglus | I tried "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" and it offered me a big list to choose from, but it didn't change anything |
| 18:28.11 | Shadda | If you're still concerned about hackers messing with your v-hold, place the heart of a live pig upon your mother board. When the moon is full, and the sky is clear, you will chant "De Su nem fa kevor til le men" eight thousand times. |
| 18:28.15 | Fraze | I've stoped xscreensaver |
| 18:28.16 | Jhair | Goat25: in linux they *share* memory, until one of both (parent or child) decides to write on that shared memory, this is known as copy in write... |
| 18:28.25 | grandpa | grandma: I have a driving license, and no protesis. I'm hot. |
| 18:28.27 | nse | maher: does the process called with the ls command can be the parent of a process? |
| 18:28.27 | Jhair | copy ON write |
| 18:28.42 | abrotman | grandpa: stop |
| 18:28.59 | grandpa | pfft. |
| 18:29.00 | maher | nse: it could be if ls decides to create some - it doesn't usually... |
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| 18:29.05 | Fraze | and reconnected the plugs |
| 18:29.17 | Fraze | even got electrfid for a second |
| 18:29.19 | dooglus | how can I change the keymap used in virtual terminals? |
| 18:29.27 | Fraze | let see if it continues |
| 18:29.27 | resiak | !keymap |
| 18:29.27 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 18:29.39 | Coweater | dooglus: as in an xterm, or you mean ssh'd in? |
| 18:30.36 | dooglus | Coweater: no, I mean virtual terminals |
| 18:30.36 | dooglus | Coweater: or virtual consoles perhaps? |
| 18:30.36 | dooglus | Coweater: I'm not sure what the real name is. I mean the things you get to with control-alt-F3 and so on |
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| 18:30.36 | Coweater | that factoid covers it |
| 18:30.50 | dooglus | resiak: as I say, I tried reconfiguring console-data but it didn't help |
| 18:30.52 | resiak | dooglus: It does work, because my keymap is dvorak as a result of doing as the factoid says. |
| 18:31.05 | dooglus | resiak: ok, what I mean is it didn't work *for me* |
| 18:31.14 | Shadda | And I'm using a klingon keymap. |
| 18:31.34 | Shadda | so...hard to type |
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| 18:31.36 | MoRLoCh | dooglus: maybe you want to try loadkeys? |
| 18:31.51 | resiak | dooglus: Sure, I know. I guess I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't, so I'll be silent and hope that one of these other fine peoples can help. Maybe you could give more details, such as your current and preferred keymap? |
| 18:31.51 | nse | maher: I'm starting to understand it. does the child process after execution needs to return a value to the parent, and the parent decides what to do with this value? |
| 18:32.03 | Jhair | does glibc provide klingon locale uh? |
| 18:32.52 | Goat25 | haha |
| 18:33.04 | dooglus | resiak: my keyboard currently behaves as if it was american. and whatever I change it to, it still behaves the same. |
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| 18:33.18 | dooglus | I have tried switching to dvorak, or qwertz, and nothing changes. |
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| 18:35.04 | abrotman | you have to logout/login |
| 18:35.28 | dooglus | abrotman: you do? |
| 18:35.43 | MoRLoCh | heh |
| 18:36.19 | dooglus | no, you don't have to logout/login. |
| 18:36.21 | beered | dooglus: when you switch to dvorak, do you have to rearrange your keyboard keys too? |
| 18:36.29 | abrotman | dooglus: i'm pretty sure you do |
| 18:36.36 | resiak | beered: nope. you just touch-type |
| 18:36.46 | dooglus | abrotman: I found out what was wrong - I had to install a package called 'kbd' |
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| 18:36.58 | abrotman | dooglus: that's certainly odd |
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| 18:37.00 | beered | resiak: what do you mean by touch-type? |
| 18:37.03 | dooglus | abrotman: once I did that it worked (without logging out and in) |
| 18:37.14 | dooglus | beered: touch-typing is typing without looking at the keys |
| 18:37.19 | mr_claus | i try to connect my debian sarge to ldap, it seems to work, with user root the uid will be shown as usernames and i can su to any other user but the usernames are not shown with other users |
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| 18:37.35 | goon | does chuid exist? I need something like that, not chown |
| 18:37.40 | beered | resiak: oh, I see. :) But I can do that now too. Why switch to dvorak? |
| 18:37.45 | dooglus | is there a meta-package which depends on the little 'essential' packages like 'kbd' which I can install? |
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| 18:37.56 | abrotman | goon: to do what? |
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| 18:38.27 | ParoXsitiC | IP aliasing didnt work well. Or i did it wrong. When i defined eth0:0 and then routed it all it did was disable my internet, and allowed my networked PC to ping the ip i supplied |
| 18:38.28 | goon | abrotman, it's a little bit long to explain but following a resotbackup |
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| 18:38.47 | mr_claus | e |
| 18:38.47 | abrotman | resotbackup ? |
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| 18:39.06 | robert__ | find |
| 18:39.10 | robert__ | laberinto |
| 18:39.14 | goon | abrotman, it's a little bit long to explain but following a restored backup, when I do "chown -R user1:user1 /home/user1", user1 also owns the files in /home/user2 ... |
| 18:39.16 | zinx | goon: chown can set by uid, not just name, if that's what you're wanting.. but you really should explain things |
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| 18:39.27 | arsonist | Somebody know when we will see a new gnome 2.14 in Debian Sid? |
| 18:39.31 | JandJ | Hi everybody! |
| 18:39.34 | resiak | beered: I find typing dvorak more comfortable. This is important to me, because I am developing RSI. |
| 18:39.40 | resiak | !snss |
| 18:39.44 | robert__ | rock |
| 18:39.46 | resiak | !sns syndrome |
| 18:39.46 | dpkg | well, sns syndrome is a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Software Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 18:39.54 | goon | zinx, yes I hope that using uid should be better than names, I'll try that |
| 18:39.56 | zinx | goon: the names are in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow |
| 18:39.57 | robert__ | the rolling stones |
| 18:40.05 | zinx | goon: using the uid won't be any better |
| 18:40.17 | zinx | goon: you have to have the same name+number in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow as your old system |
| 18:40.22 | goon | zinx, shit, what should I do? |
| 18:40.38 | goon | grmbl |
| 18:40.40 | zinx | goon: put the same name+number in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow that you had on your old system, obviously |
| 18:41.00 | maher | nse: try this: www.cs.unb.ca/courses/cs2403/lab22002.rtf |
| 18:41.08 | goon | zinx: I'll try that, thanks |
| 18:41.15 | nse | maher: ok! thanks for the link! |
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| 18:42.32 | JandJ | Is somebody can halp 4 a begginer? What is the different between gnome and kde? |
| 18:42.35 | goon | zinx: should I restart any service? |
| 18:42.48 | beered | resiak: dvorak sounds interesting. i'll check it out. |
| 18:42.57 | zinx | goon: you should probably reboot, but at the minimum log out and log back in any affected users |
| 18:43.29 | arsonist | JandJ - look for homepages: www.gnome.org www.kde.org ....\ |
| 18:43.36 | kookaburra | they are two different desktop managers. different desktops with different default software packages. |
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| 18:43.47 | abrotman | more than two |
| 18:43.50 | abrotman | !dm |
| 18:43.50 | dpkg | DM means display manager. xdm, gdm, kdm, wdm, pdm, and login.app are all examples of display managers. Ask me about nodm if you want to disable the DM. |
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| 18:44.00 | abrotman | i misread .. ignore me |
| 18:44.04 | goon | zinx: do I need to erase the files or something like that? |
| 18:44.14 | abrotman | and kookaburra didn't answer correctly anyways! |
| 18:44.26 | kookaburra | yay! |
| 18:44.29 | zinx | goon: no, but you probably need to chown them to the right user, since you've changed it |
| 18:44.43 | abrotman | !de |
| 18:44.43 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 18:44.48 | abrotman | stupid bot |
| 18:45.04 | JandJ | Can i use that program package on KDE what is in gnome? |
| 18:45.17 | kookaburra | yeah |
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| 18:46.52 | kookaburra | for instance, if you install k3b in gnome, you will basically end up with kde. you can choose it in gdm anyways. |
| 18:47.01 | goon | zinx: didn't work |
| 18:47.18 | abrotman | !depends k3b sid |
| 18:47.23 | dpkg | k3b: depends on kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.1-2), libacl1 (>= 2.2.11-1), libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libattr1 (>= 2.4.4-1), libaudio2, libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.60), libdbus-qt-1-1c2 (>= 0.60), libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), libfam0, libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2), libhal1 (>= 0.5), libice6, libidn11 (>= 0.5.18), libjpeg62, libk3b2 (>= 0.12.12), libmusicbrainz4c2a (>= 2.1.2), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libqt3-mt ... |
| 18:47.26 | arsonist | JandJ - yes but You have to have specifiy liberary that uses this program.. on gnome or kde.. |
| 18:47.28 | dooglus | can I find a list of packages somewhere which I need to install for a working system? something that would include 'kbd'? |
| 18:47.30 | abrotman | mmm .. the infamous ... |
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| 18:48.16 | kookaburra | what infamous? |
| 18:48.17 | jetscreamer | don't think so |
| 18:48.22 | jetscreamer | could be wrong |
| 18:48.27 | arsonist | JandJ If you want to use programs from gnome and kde install them. |
| 18:48.29 | jetscreamer | you get some libs |
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| 18:48.52 | abrotman | kookaburra: when the dependencies are so long .. dpkg won't show them all:) |
| 18:48.59 | Buddha| | Is anyone here running E17? |
| 18:49.04 | jetscreamer | dooglus: kbd? |
| 18:49.13 | jetscreamer | no nobody runs E17 |
| 18:49.31 | wols_ | !tell Buddha| about anyone |
| 18:49.35 | abrotman | !dr17 |
| 18:49.35 | dpkg | [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/, or debs for dr17 under unstable are available at http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ |
| 18:49.40 | kookaburra | yeah. k3b has a ton of dependencies |
| 18:49.47 | tarzeau | abrotman: re |
| 18:49.54 | jetscreamer | just use cdrecord like a man |
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| 18:49.56 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 18:50.02 | jetscreamer | or growisofs |
| 18:50.08 | abrotman | tarzeau: i'm here! .. no memos |
| 18:50.15 | kookaburra | too bad gnomebaker isn't as good. I don't think it is anyway. |
| 18:50.20 | tarzeau | abrotman: the weather was so beautiful. i should go again tomorrow |
| 18:50.24 | jetscreamer | i agree |
| 18:50.24 | avar | tons of dependencies are goodâ„¢ |
| 18:50.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: go ... sledding? |
| 18:50.42 | avar | Because it means that the software is using a lot of libraries and not reinventing the wheel |
| 18:50.45 | avar | (usually) |
| 18:50.46 | jetscreamer | â„¢ |
| 18:50.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: snowboarding |
| 18:50.56 | avar | either that or the authors have been smoking crack |
| 18:50.59 | Buddha| | Could someone help me with this error: http://pastebin.com/609255 ? |
| 18:51.02 | abrotman | tarzeau: sledding on your head! |
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| 18:51.46 | jetscreamer | e17 isn't in repos? |
| 18:51.51 | abrotman | no |
| 18:51.54 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 18:51.56 | abrotman | it's not released yet |
| 18:52.06 | jetscreamer | beyond me Buddha| |
| 18:52.16 | Buddha| | jetscreamer - it's not even alpha yet |
| 18:52.32 | abrotman | Buddha|: what are you trying to build? |
| 18:52.40 | Buddha| | abrotman - eet |
| 18:52.41 | jetscreamer | man i've seen ppl asking about e17 for a while |
| 18:52.52 | jetscreamer | looks like e17 abrotman |
| 18:52.53 | abrotman | Buddha|: i'm not sure if you're aware of this ... enlightenment hasn't had a relase in like .. 5 years |
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| 18:53.12 | kookaburra | I thought enlightenment was dead |
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| 18:53.23 | Buddha| | abrotman - that was e16. Enlightenment development goes rather slowly. |
| 18:53.25 | abrotman | it should be ... but don't tell gnea |
| 18:53.47 | wols_ | heh |
| 18:53.51 | abrotman | Buddha|: no .. slowly is a snail .. E17 just a wee bit slower than the subcontinent of india |
| 18:54.17 | strider | !e17 |
| 18:54.17 | dpkg | Don't even think about asking ljlane anything about e17 or efm. see DR17 |
| 18:54.40 | abrotman | !maint enlightenment |
| 18:54.42 | dpkg | enlightenment: Laurence J. Lane <ljlane@debian.org> |
| 18:54.56 | strider | haha |
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| 18:55.37 | phaedral | i may have been misinformed: i was tolk running i386 testing on my new amd64 box shouldn't cause problems |
| 18:55.42 | phaedral | is that a reasonable statement? |
| 18:55.45 | sphenxes | How can I switch off the screensaver ? it start every five minutes even I watching a movie |
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| 18:55.50 | sphenxes | gnome |
| 18:55.54 | wols_ | it's reasonable as reasonable as testing is |
| 18:55.55 | phaedral | or do I need to go back and install the a64 |
| 18:55.59 | phaedral | wols_: :) |
| 18:56.10 | abrotman | phaedral: cause problems with what? |
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| 18:56.16 | wols_ | phaedral: but you won't run it in 64bit mode |
| 18:56.20 | abrotman | sphenxes: try in the gnome screensaver applet |
| 18:56.40 | sphenxes | abrotman thanks |
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| 18:56.59 | phaedral | the whole distinction is over my head; i"m only revisting the decision because it seems relevant to why I can't get ndiswrapper to work with any of hte drivers I'm finding |
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| 18:57.36 | wols_ | if you need ndiswrapper you need 32bit vresion ak i386 |
| 18:57.54 | abrotman | probably |
| 18:57.55 | wols_ | you know that your athlon64 can run in 64 bit mode right? |
| 18:58.00 | maher | phaedral: what happened when youtried the 32bit driver |
| 18:58.05 | wols_ | abd that normal debian runs in 32 bit mode? |
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| 18:58.24 | phaedral | maher: haven't found one yet |
| 18:58.28 | phaedral | still looking |
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| 18:58.39 | phaedral | but tried a couple other 64 I found |
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| 18:59.21 | maher | phaedral: they won't work - you need a 32 bit driver - what hardware is this? |
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| 19:01.12 | phaedral | maher: i am searching ardently for a 32bit |
| 19:01.19 | unstable | What is wrong with this command... dpkg -al|grep "-dev" |
| 19:01.34 | phaedral | presario V2000 |
| 19:01.35 | unstable | grep tells me unknown directories method |
| 19:01.40 | nse | unstable: it's missing a space |
| 19:01.46 | phaedral | broadcom card |
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| 19:01.58 | unstable | nse: space where? |
| 19:02.18 | [machine] | unstable: it is interpreting -dev as grep flags |
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| 19:02.24 | Usiu | Hi |
| 19:02.25 | avar | grep '\-dev' |
| 19:02.26 | [machine] | grep -- "-dev" |
| 19:02.34 | maher | phaedral: what chipset |
| 19:02.49 | Usiu | Do You know an app for capturing screen and making move from it ? |
| 19:02.49 | nse | unstable: anywhere, sorry I thought that the pipe needed a space! |
| 19:02.51 | avar | because the quotes are irrelivant in this case |
| 19:03.00 | avar | It's passed as "-dev" to grep, without quotes |
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| 19:03.06 | unstable | [machine]: But I have it in quotes |
| 19:03.20 | [machine] | unst: that doesn't matter |
| 19:03.44 | phaedral | BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] |
| 19:03.49 | avar | unstable: write a C program that prints out the argument vector and try running it as ./yourprogram "foo" and ./yourprogram foo |
| 19:03.53 | phaedral | (rev 2) |
| 19:03.55 | [machine] | unstable: for example ls "-la" |
| 19:03.59 | avar | or just read up on the quotes in your shell |
| 19:04.16 | phaedral | pciid 14e4:4318 |
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| 19:04.42 | avar | unstable: |
| 19:04.42 | avar | avar@Rancorwe:/tmp$ perl -le 'print for @ARGV' foo "bar" |
| 19:04.42 | avar | foo |
| 19:04.42 | avar | bar |
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| 19:04.57 | [machine] | unstable: -- tells it that -dev is not to be considered grep flags |
| 19:05.00 | Usiu | Do You know any tool for making a move from screen ? |
| 19:05.28 | unstable | thanks [machine] |
| 19:05.40 | unstable | avar: you win an award for most difficult method of getting things done |
| 19:05.51 | abrotman | !tell Usiu about repeat |
| 19:06.06 | avar | Do I get beer and bitches? |
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| 19:06.23 | maher | phaedral: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List |
| 19:06.25 | unstable | !beer avar |
| 19:06.27 | usn | hi there |
| 19:06.30 | [machine] | avar: you hve to earm them ;) |
| 19:06.32 | unstable | !greet usn |
| 19:06.32 | dpkg | Howdy, usn |
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| 19:06.49 | Buddha| | !greet dpkg |
| 19:06.49 | dpkg | Bonjour, dpkg |
| 19:07.08 | maher | Usiu: google: linux screenshot movie |
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| 19:07.18 | Usiu | maher, I found instabul |
| 19:07.30 | phaedral | maher: i'm there; that's what I"m pulling from |
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| 19:07.46 | kurumin | someone here know knoppix |
| 19:07.48 | kurumin | ? |
| 19:07.50 | phaedral | one link references 64, trying one dir up in that site |
| 19:07.53 | maher | phaedral: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp30501-31000/SP30676.exe <-- says that should be 32 bit |
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| 19:08.26 | unstable | kurumin: /join #knoppix |
| 19:08.27 | unstable | !knoppix |
| 19:08.28 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. don't forget to ask me about <Based On Debian> |
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| 19:09.12 | tr011 | hi, somebody uses initNG with reiserfs partitions on debian sid ? |
| 19:09.17 | phaedral | cool |
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| 19:09.28 | bertel | i have a software raid in debian, 4x320gb, after adding another disk to the computer, one of the drives in the raid got changed to /dev/sdf from /dev/sdb |
| 19:09.42 | unstable | !tell tr011 about anyone |
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| 19:09.58 | bertel | will the data still work if i just change the mdadm conf to mount sdf instead of sdb? |
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| 19:10.18 | Berserker22 | hi all ! Is the first ISO-image with installer ? I mean http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 19:10.23 | lewis2 | trying to 'apt-get upgrade' four packages that are held back. If I try to install any of them manally, then they want ia32-libs to be removed. I think it is because the packages no longer depend on ia32-libs. See http://pastebin.com/609465 for info. |
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| 19:10.30 | blondie | why does linux detect hardware that's disabled in the BIOS? :\ like onboard LAN and sound >.< |
| 19:10.37 | blondie | it's just rude |
| 19:10.50 | abrotman | blondie: cause it's not disabled? |
| 19:10.55 | blondie | but it is |
| 19:10.59 | blondie | windows doesnt detect them |
| 19:10.59 | zinx | your bios isn't disabling it properly if it's still detected |
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| 19:11.02 | abrotman | liar! |
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| 19:11.07 | tr011 | the problem is that recently installed the initNG and everything is fine but reiserfs partitions, the problems is that when i reboot, the reiserfs sends a message because of they weren't unmount correctly, |
| 19:11.14 | GentooGuy | hello |
| 19:11.18 | blondie | I already have one :S |
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| 19:11.38 | wols_ | then learn to use it |
| 19:11.38 | tr011 | how can i do to make initNG unmount correctly all my fily systems ? |
| 19:11.52 | blondie | I know how to use it, but would rather not involve my motherboard :P |
| 19:11.55 | unstable | !greet GentooGuy |
| 19:11.55 | dpkg | Bonjour, GentooGuy |
| 19:12.01 | phaedral | no 30676... |
| 19:12.07 | Buddha| | !greet dpkg |
| 19:12.07 | dpkg | Salutations, dpkg |
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| 19:12.31 | phaedral | maher: how can you tell what is waht on these? |
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| 19:12.47 | tuv | which fs is the most reliable? ext3, xfs, jfs,...etc? |
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| 19:12.57 | blondie | GentooGuy: are you a spy? |
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| 19:13.09 | tuv | :) |
| 19:13.09 | jetscreamer | xfs and reaiser you should have a UPS |
| 19:13.12 | jetscreamer | reiser |
| 19:13.18 | l3m | tuv: it's not that simple |
| 19:13.21 | abrotman | !fs comparison |
| 19:13.22 | dpkg | well, filesystem comparison is http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html or http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ or http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html |
| 19:13.26 | l3m | tuv: in doubt, use xfs ;) |
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| 19:13.33 | blondie | abrotman: do you know everything? |
| 19:13.40 | jetscreamer | i chose jfs after doing the research, but ymmv |
| 19:13.41 | phaedral | shit; wrong site; i'm at an hp with same layout |
| 19:13.44 | phaedral | my bad |
| 19:13.45 | abrotman | blondie: no .. nor would i ever claim to |
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| 19:13.54 | blondie | :o |
| 19:13.57 | blondie | modest |
| 19:14.45 | ^crazy_penguin_ | can someone tell me were can i find more in depth information concerning debian 3.1 releases, specially 3.1 r2. thank you. |
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| 19:15.12 | Ronin | more in depth then at www.debian.org? |
| 19:15.31 | abrotman | _crazy_penguin^: in depth about what? afaik .. rc2 isn't out yet |
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| 19:16.04 | jetscreamer | !d-i |
| 19:16.04 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. |
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| 19:16.04 | fbn | is it possible to use courier-imap with tls instead of ssl? |
| 19:16.04 | jetscreamer | maybe there |
| 19:16.12 | Jhair | ^crazy_penguin_: http://people.debian.org/~joey/3.1r2/ |
| 19:16.16 | Buddha| | !dpkg |
| 19:16.16 | dpkg | it has been said that dpkg is mad |
| 19:16.17 | _crazy_penguin^ | ok. it seems that i missunderstood something. thanks |
| 19:16.23 | abrotman | http://people.debian.org/~joey/3.1r2/ |
| 19:16.28 | abrotman | r1 is out |
| 19:16.30 | blondie | abrotman: why not :( |
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| 19:16.54 | jetscreamer | 3.1R2D2 |
| 19:16.59 | abrotman | blondie: because .. i find it very hard to believe that anyone could know everything .. even about a single topic .. i wouldn't even claim to be an expert |
| 19:17.23 | jetscreamer | blondie: he's lying to cover up the fact that he's A.I. |
| 19:17.28 | jetscreamer | and knows all |
| 19:17.33 | abrotman | I'm a bot! |
| 19:17.46 | l3m | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscience |
| 19:17.47 | l3m | ;) |
| 19:17.50 | wols_ | abrotman: explains your exceptional knowledge about dpkg topics |
| 19:18.07 | abrotman | wols_: ? |
| 19:18.17 | jasam | hi, I have sarge, I can not to shutdown from KDE with the session dialog, and the options in configuration of session appear to be correct, someone can tell me what can I do to see those options? |
| 19:18.22 | wols_ | you being an AI |
| 19:18.28 | abrotman | oh |
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| 19:18.53 | strider | !abrotman |
| 19:18.53 | dpkg | somebody said abrotman was someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 19:18.54 | l3m | Omniscience From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. (Redirected from abrotman) ;) |
| 19:19.12 | ParoXsitiC | Can someone assist me in IP aliasing |
| 19:19.37 | phaedral | maher: uh, niether unzip nor cabextract nor unshield will admit to knowing how to open this puppy |
| 19:19.44 | strider | jasam: check kcontrol or #debian-kde |
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| 19:19.55 | phaedral | I'm gonna have to boot to XP and install it? |
| 19:20.01 | Thug-N-Me | 270 KB/s its a good download speed ? |
| 19:20.11 | abrotman | kernel |
| 19:20.17 | jasam | strider, thanks, I'm going to connect that channel |
| 19:21.05 | Thug-N-Me | does 270 KB/s its download speed means i download with aprox. 2 meg ? |
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| 19:21.55 | phaedral | never mind; cabextract is working; getting frustrated and sloppy; apologies |
| 19:23.07 | phaedral | and now installed getting same error: not 32 bit |
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| 19:23.44 | abrotman | phaedral: uname -a .. what does it say? |
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| 19:24.08 | zenwryly | anyone know of an apt repository for winetools? |
| 19:24.30 | maher | phaedral: what does file drivername say? |
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| 19:24.57 | launch | Hi, im able to play mp3 song but when i try to play a audio cdrom i got no sound but the title of the album and the song are showed, any idea? thanks |
| 19:25.02 | pc_tony | hey guys, I have a problem with exim, on sarge. setup to use AUTH (which is working ok) when messages sent outbound (relayed) the email address is set as username@hostname or username@qual_dom.... how can i change this? |
| 19:25.24 | blondie | #exim? |
| 19:25.33 | pc_tony | correct |
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| 19:25.51 | pc_tony | thanks |
| 19:25.55 | blondie | as in ask there not here :P |
| 19:26.26 | pc_tony | yeah just realised... only just saw the # |
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| 19:26.48 | phaedral | abrotman: Linux luthien 2.6.15-1-486 #2 Mon Mar 6 ... i686 |
| 19:26.49 | dooglus | jetscreamer: yes, kbd |
| 19:26.53 | dooglus | !info kbd |
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| 19:26.56 | dpkg | kbd: (Linux console font and keytable utilities), section utils, is extra. Version: 1.12-13 (sid), Packaged size: 332 kB, Installed size: 1300 kB |
| 19:27.01 | abrotman | phaedral: uhm .. ok |
| 19:27.06 | phaedral | bcmwl5.inf and sys |
| 19:27.27 | dooglus | jetscreamer: it seems to be needed if you want to use anything other than an American keyboard layout |
| 19:27.38 | phaedral | abrotman: that's keyed in; omitting time stamp because have to twist to read one screen while typing at other |
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| 19:28.03 | phaedral | i'm gonna fire up chat on the other machine, brb |
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| 19:29.51 | jetscreamer | dooglus: install it |
| 19:30.01 | phaedral_ | abrotman: was my answer what you were asking for? |
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| 19:31.08 | maher | phaedral: did you unpack the driver? |
| 19:31.52 | militantdk | Q: I have a Compaq DL360 G1 dual 800mhz with 2gb ram. Debian only see 900mb of ot. Can someone help? |
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| 19:32.25 | phaedral_ | file was something like SP30676.exe; used cabextract to get about a dozen files, including bcmwl5.inf |
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| 19:32.28 | Fox_1_ | how can i redirect packets which comes to port 80 to an other computer's 3128 port? |
| 19:32.36 | abrotman | phaedral: i just wanted to make sure you weren't running pure64 |
| 19:32.48 | phaedral_ | abrotman: cool |
| 19:32.51 | strider | militantdk: debian kernel? |
| 19:32.57 | phaedral_ | i'm learning a lot as I go today |
| 19:33.04 | phaedral_ | appreciate the patience |
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| 19:33.44 | phaedral_ | had to part as my main nick so tab completion works for y'all |
| 19:34.19 | tuv | most of the links dpkg gave me were about the best performance fs rather than the most reliable. I am concerned only about reliability. i don't care about performance |
| 19:36.06 | maher | tuv: mount with sync and buy a ups... |
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| 19:36.33 | militantdk | kernel 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 19:36.36 | tuv | maher: is sync an ext3 mount option? |
| 19:37.03 | maher | tuv: should work for ext2 and ext3 |
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| 19:39.23 | lewis2 | how come etch doesn't come with exim4 by default? (I don't have a problem with it, just wondering) |
| 19:39.50 | phaedral_ | maher: am next trying SP30379.exe, direct from compaq site; fingers crossed |
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| 19:40.19 | phaedral_ | and same error |
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| 19:41.26 | azeem | lewis2: it does, no? |
| 19:41.40 | lewis2 | not from what I could see |
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| 19:41.42 | azeem | lewis2: what's the MTA you got? |
| 19:41.53 | maher | phaedral_: what error |
| 19:42.07 | lewis2 | oh - perhaps me not selecting any packages. |
| 19:42.18 | tuv | which is the most reliable: data=writeback,ordered,journal? |
| 19:42.34 | roob | Can anyone tell me how I can check to which nameserver a domain maps? Someone might have hacked me, just making sure |
| 19:42.34 | lewis2 | well, I never select packages, and compared to sarge (where exim4 always seems to be there), with etch, it isn't. |
| 19:42.50 | phaedral_ | maher: will paste in flood |
| 19:42.53 | phaedral_ | from dmesg |
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| 19:46.27 | tbenita | hi, anybody knows if it is possible to have mprg2enc for debian sid amd64 ? |
| 19:46.43 | tbenita | I mean mpeg2enc |
| 19:47.22 | buu | Hrm. If I do mpg123 -s, it writes the "decoded audio samples" to standard out, so why can't I simply send that to /dev/dsp? If I try, I get strange silence and then whines/shreaks |
| 19:48.26 | phaedral_ | time to try testing a64? |
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| 19:48.43 | phaedral_ | or is that likely to be even more over my head... |
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| 19:49.06 | roob | can anyone hear me? just checking if my irc client works |
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| 19:49.16 | phaedral_ | ping roob |
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| 19:49.28 | wols_ | phaedral_: a64 debian is anything but stable afaik |
| 19:49.32 | phaedral_ | but #test is better |
| 19:49.32 | psychoslave_ | Hi. |
| 19:49.33 | roob | phaedral_: pong. thanks |
| 19:49.40 | phaedral_ | wols_: that's what I figured |
| 19:49.44 | psychoslave_ | i'v got a little problem I just installed a debian on my laptop (etch amd64 snapshot install from network) and x doesn't react when I press alt or shift |
| 19:49.52 | phaedral_ | guess I'll just learn to live w/o wireless on this for a while |
| 19:49.59 | psychoslave_ | I checked xorg.conf, but it seems right |
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| 19:50.12 | psychoslave_ | has anyone an idea? |
| 19:50.42 | Stevie | maybe your alt and shift keys are broken |
| 19:50.46 | ParoXsitiC | I am having troubles getting an additional IP added to my system. I have various files and comments listed at this site. PLEASE HELP http://brianhare.com/help.html |
| 19:50.50 | wols_ | phaedral_: just get the windows driver for 32bit |
| 19:51.10 | tbenita | psychonate, I had to upgrade to sid in order to have X on my amd64 laptop |
| 19:51.11 | phaedral_ | just googled for 32 bit bcmwl5 |
| 19:51.17 | phaedral_ | will keep looking |
| 19:51.39 | psychoslave_ | no Stevie, it works when I'm in a shell |
| 19:51.44 | phaedral_ | tbenita: not me; compaq presario v2000, amd64; testing gave me gnome with no tweaks at all |
| 19:51.45 | psychoslave_ | (not under x) |
| 19:51.47 | phaedral_ | fwiw |
| 19:51.59 | phaedral_ | even plays dvds |
| 19:52.06 | phaedral_ | a first for me on debian/laptop |
| 19:52.12 | wols_ | phaedral_: the bog standard windows driver for your card. NOT the driver for A64 |
| 19:52.27 | phaedral_ | bog? |
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| 19:53.07 | wols_ | not special. normal |
| 19:53.36 | Drstrangelove | hey, when you have lost ust libGL.so because of installing nvidia driver, who to restore it? |
| 19:53.52 | Drstrangelove | in what deb is it? |
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| 19:54.11 | tbenita | phaedral_, anyway I found no possibility to install ATI fglrx driver |
| 19:54.16 | Drstrangelove | (what do i have to reinstall) |
| 19:54.20 | wols_ | Drstrangelove: dpkg -S <path to libgl.so> |
| 19:54.26 | tbenita | phaedral_, do you have an ati chip ? |
| 19:54.34 | gerol | Topic for #debian is: PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | NOTE: this is NOT #ubuntu. | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing secur |
| 19:54.39 | gerol | sorry |
| 19:54.47 | phaedral_ | tbenita: i accepted defaults; yeah, ati, as I recall |
| 19:54.50 | ParoXsitiC | I am having troubles getting an additional IP added to my system. I have various files and comments listed at this site. PLEASE HELP http://brianhare.com/help.html |
| 19:55.00 | gerol | help about strong problem and when db install say error checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables !!! ERROR: sys-libs/db |
| 19:55.20 | phaedral_ | can't get better than 1024x768, which sucks but will do |
| 19:55.23 | wols_ | gerol: apt-get install build-essential |
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| 19:55.47 | tbenita | phaedral_, interesting :) which driver do you use ? Do you get hardware acceleration ? |
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| 19:56.20 | pc_tony | if i set exim up to use AUTH (plain or TLS) why does it seem to ignore/discard the to: header? and then connstruct it from the username/server name ? |
| 19:56.31 | phaedral_ | tbenita: don't recall which driver it picked; don't know enough to check hardware acceleration |
| 19:56.34 | phaedral_ | :( |
| 19:56.41 | salman- | Has anyone been having problems with the system time resetting and being off by 4-5 hours after a reboot in unstable? |
| 19:56.53 | wols_ | pc_tony: MTAs never care about the To: header. that header is just cosmetics |
| 19:56.55 | tbenita | ok phaedral_ thanks for the information :) |
| 19:57.11 | wols_ | all it looks at the rcpt to: and mail from: while receiving the mail |
| 19:57.27 | wols_ | salman-: what is your timezone? |
| 19:57.33 | pc_tony | ok, so when the message is sent with out auth, the message arrives witht he correct address |
| 19:57.42 | pc_tony | but if sent thru auth, it is constructed |
| 19:57.43 | Drstrangelove | wols_, thanks |
| 19:57.51 | Drstrangelove | but it tells me: ldconfig: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1.0.8178 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. |
| 19:57.54 | salman- | wols_: est. I already tried to reset it 2-3 times to make sure it's set properly. |
| 19:58.12 | blondie | how can I stop "atkbd.c: Unknown keyboard pressed" messages from appearing on the console? |
| 19:58.13 | gerol | wols_, i allready installed |
| 19:58.14 | valdyn | Drstrangelove: reinstall the package owning that file |
| 19:58.18 | wols_ | salman-: you probably told debian to use UTC for the hardware clock or somesuch |
| 19:58.36 | blondie | er s/keyboard/key/ |
| 19:58.43 | wols_ | Drstrangelove: ask nvidia. not me |
| 19:58.48 | vira | blondie: i am having that problem too, but with gentoo |
| 19:58.53 | Drstrangelove | valdyn, no package is owing this file, it was from the nvidia |
| 19:59.00 | roob | I need some help here. I have a domain that maps to a weird nameserver. The domain is pipelineforcrm.com It maps to ns1.decayandcorrupt.com , but I have the nameserver set to ns1.pipelineforcrm.com ... Does this sound like an attack? |
| 19:59.01 | salman- | Pretty sure that I didn't. The machine has been running for a year or so with the same install |
| 19:59.09 | blondie | someone told me how to tell it not to keep telling me once, but I don't remember how x.x |
| 19:59.40 | salman- | Somehow, a couple of months back some unstable update broke something and I can't find anything in regards to it on google or BTS |
| 19:59.56 | salman- | had to resort to using an rdate script at boot to fix the time |
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| 20:00.11 | Drstrangelove | so i have to reinstall the whole system? |
| 20:00.22 | Drstrangelove | i once hat a OS like this... |
| 20:00.27 | Drstrangelove | had |
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| 20:00.38 | tuv | is there a sync option for ext3? i couldn't find it in the mount manpage |
| 20:00.54 | blondie | vira: it's because MS wireless keyboards send stuff for battery levels I think.. I just want it to stfu :) |
| 20:01.17 | vira | blondie: in my case it's a dell latitude laptop |
| 20:01.38 | quitte_ | tuv: it is in the manpage |
| 20:01.53 | roob | has anyone know what that problem I wrote above could be? I have an domain, and the nameserver seems very smelly, I never heard about it. |
| 20:02.04 | quitte_ | tuv: and afaik it's filesystem independent |
| 20:02.32 | blondie | also why would i have to manually run dhclient after boot x.x |
| 20:02.39 | tuv | quitte_, is it supposed to make the fs more reliable? |
| 20:03.17 | quitte_ | tuv: it writes every change directly to disk instead of buffering writes in ram |
| 20:03.42 | tuv | which is the most reliable for ext3: data=writeback,ordered,journal? |
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| 20:04.16 | blondie | I guess the question is "how do I adjust the dmesg settings?P" |
| 20:04.17 | blondie | -P |
| 20:04.55 | blondie | vira: ah, "dmesg -n 1" shuts it up :) |
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| 20:06.03 | vira | hey thanks |
| 20:06.04 | vira | hehe |
| 20:06.13 | tuv | i get "Operation not permitted" when trying to remove a directory as root. dir. flags: d--S--x--x. how do i delete it? |
| 20:06.14 | vira | it was less of a problem since i started running X though |
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| 20:06.41 | blondie | yeah |
| 20:06.47 | salman- | tuv: try an 'lsattr <dir>' |
| 20:06.51 | GentooGuy | is there a way to fix bad sectors with fsck ? |
| 20:07.15 | tuv | salman-, returns nothing |
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| 20:08.25 | salman- | maybe something under it is chattr'd +i -- you can always try a chattr -R -i <dir> and see if that helps |
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| 20:09.46 | blondie | hmm has someone got an /etc/network/interfaces file with hotplug stuff in I can see please? |
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| 20:10.39 | unstable | blondie: http://raz.cx/blog/2005/11/debian-etcnetwork-interfaces-and.html |
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| 20:11.03 | unstable | blondie: All I did was put in google "/etc/network/interfaces hotplug" |
| 20:11.38 | ubushine | hey folks -- using sarge (new install) with x-windows and xfce4. can anyone tell me why xfce4-session needs a port open? |
| 20:11.48 | blondie | hmm |
| 20:11.50 | blondie | fuckin thing |
| 20:11.57 | blondie | unstable: but thanks |
| 20:12.35 | AlienX | language... |
| 20:13.15 | blondie | why does it want to hotplug an onboard NIC? |
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| 20:13.24 | blondie | and wont work without it |
| 20:13.39 | unstable | ubushine: /join #xfce4 |
| 20:13.50 | ubushine | unstable, ah, thanks |
| 20:14.14 | ubushine | no one there |
| 20:14.45 | strider | ubushine: #xfce |
| 20:14.58 | ubushine | ya just found it, cheers |
| 20:15.27 | blondie | sigh |
| 20:15.32 | blondie | gh |
| 20:15.34 | blondie | ARGH |
| 20:15.38 | ubushine | related question. do you guys favour using inetd? that leaves a port open too |
| 20:15.49 | blondie | pissed off now :( |
| 20:16.41 | asg | ubushine: inetd only leaves open what /etc/inetd.conf is configured to leave open |
| 20:17.22 | ubushine | asg, i don't have and inetd.conf file |
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| 20:17.40 | asg | ubushine: are you using Debian? |
| 20:17.41 | ubushine | but there is an inetd port open |
| 20:18.14 | ubushine | asg, yes. sarge, new install (yesterday) with x-windows and xfce4 only. and sshd |
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| 20:18.38 | asg | ubushine: paste the output of netstat that shows the open tport |
| 20:18.54 | asg | s/tport/port/ |
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| 20:21.02 | Quibus | azeem: I can boot again! But for some reason, I need to modprobe ide-disk in the busybox I get each boot, because it can't find my root partition (/dev/hda6). Any idea why? |
| 20:21.24 | ubushine | asg, netstat -ntlup |sort: |
| 20:21.25 | unstable | Quibus: echo "ide-disk" >> /etc/modules |
| 20:21.30 | azeem | busybox? |
| 20:21.34 | ubushine | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:113 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 14795/inetd |
| 20:21.43 | Quibus | azeem: yep, I get a busybox shell at boot |
| 20:21.48 | azeem | why? |
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| 20:22.01 | blondie | how can I re-run the program that runs during installation to setup networking? |
| 20:22.07 | asg | ubushine: that's ident, not inetd |
| 20:22.08 | Quibus | unstable: won't help, because it hasn't even moounted the root fs yet |
| 20:22.08 | Assid | okay besides : http://glasnost.beeznest.org/articles/186 is there any other way to update the box to run udev ? |
| 20:22.19 | azeem | blondie: ap-get install etherconf I think |
| 20:22.27 | ubushine | it says inetd, no? |
| 20:22.36 | blondie | azeem: catch 22 :( |
| 20:22.37 | ubushine | am i dyslexic? |
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| 20:22.44 | asg | ubushine: yes, did you paste it or type it? |
| 20:22.46 | Quibus | azeem: because it can't find the root fs :) (No /dev/hd* devices) |
| 20:22.57 | ubushine | asg, pasted it |
| 20:23.00 | amee2k | is there a PDF reader that allows to bookmark pages? |
| 20:23.02 | asg | ubushine: if the latter, use a paster bot to publish your /etc/inetd.conf |
| 20:23.09 | ubushine | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:113 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 14795/inetd |
| 20:23.15 | ubushine | asg, pasted |
| 20:23.20 | ubushine | it says inetd |
| 20:23.22 | azeem | blondie: get it from a CD or USB stick or so |
| 20:23.34 | azeem | blondie: or configure netwrok manualy |
| 20:23.44 | asg | ubushine: did you install xinetd by chance? |
| 20:24.12 | blondie | azeem: I dont know how.. it wants me to use hotplugging rubbish for a builtin NIC |
| 20:24.16 | ubushine | asg, nope. i didn't even install inetd. but the installed "told" me it was going to install it and start it |
| 20:24.21 | blondie | and doesnt work if I take that stuff out of interfaces |
| 20:24.28 | azeem | blondie: "it"? |
| 20:24.40 | blondie | "debian" |
| 20:24.46 | azeem | is this unstable? |
| 20:24.50 | blondie | no, etch |
| 20:25.00 | ubushine | asg, is it really necessary. i've got 2 other ubuntu PCs and i don't have inetd or xinetd? |
| 20:25.00 | asg | ubushine: inetd is installed by default since it provides things like echo, discard, and chargen which are required to make a system rfc compliant. tcp/113 is used for an identd which isn't installed by default. |
| 20:25.04 | azeem | blondie: you use dhcp? |
| 20:25.08 | blondie | yes |
| 20:25.17 | azeem | just run dhclient eth0 manually then |
| 20:25.21 | tuv | doesn't lsattr work on directories? it returns nothing |
| 20:25.22 | asg | ubushine: is this an ubuntu system? |
| 20:25.22 | blondie | I can't |
| 20:25.28 | azeem | why? |
| 20:25.36 | blondie | it doesn't get an address |
| 20:25.44 | blondie | the MAC address is screwed up when I run ifconfig |
| 20:25.46 | ubushine | asg, nope. told you, new sarge install, just yesterday |
| 20:25.58 | azeem | blondie: sounds like a driver issue rather, then |
| 20:25.59 | blondie | it doesnt seem to be detecting the network |
| 20:26.00 | ubushine | asg, wanted to try a real debian system |
| 20:26.08 | blondie | azeem: with the hotplug stuff there it works fine |
| 20:26.22 | blondie | except that it doesnt run dhclient on boot |
| 20:26.27 | azeem | blondie: so what is the problem with the hotplug stuff? |
| 20:26.30 | azeem | ah |
| 20:26.31 | blondie | I dont want it |
| 20:26.35 | asg | ubushine: but you don't have an /etc/inetd.conf? |
| 20:26.39 | ubushine | asg, so, tcp/113 is identd (which i have installed but don't really know what it does). buy why is that port opened by inetd? |
| 20:26.49 | azeem | blondie: paste your interfaces somewhere then, or ranscribe it |
| 20:26.51 | ubushine | asg, nope. no /etc/inetd.conf file |
| 20:27.04 | azeem | transcribe |
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| 20:27.08 | blondie | my interfaces file is broken |
| 20:27.20 | ubushine | asg, i restarted inetd and now there's an inetd.conf file. |
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| 20:27.32 | blondie | I removed all the hotplug stuff |
| 20:27.38 | blondie | silly me didnt make a copy first |
| 20:27.42 | asg | ubushine: is there an identd entry in there? |
| 20:27.46 | GentooGuy | quit |
| 20:27.47 | ubushine | asg, and sure and behold here's the ident line |
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| 20:28.04 | ubushine | asg, should that be there? what is ident? |
| 20:28.24 | asg | ubushine: look in /etc/default/* for the identd you have installed. The should be an option to use inetd or standalone. Pick the latter. |
| 20:28.26 | azeem | blondie: well, get the etherconf packages then, if it is not installed yet |
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| 20:29.03 | asg | ubushine: identd is an old insecure authentication/authorization system. It's still used in some cases but isn't reliable. |
| 20:29.04 | blondie | sigh |
| 20:29.08 | ubushine | asg, there's no indication of ident in /etc/default |
| 20:29.14 | blondie | doesnt like the other NIC either |
| 20:29.24 | blondie | probably because it's "disabled" in the BIOS |
| 20:29.26 | asg | ubushine: it might be oident, or one of the numerous other ones that exist. |
| 20:29.33 | ubushine | asg, should i remove the identd package and take it out of inetd.conf? |
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| 20:30.21 | david___ | ok. i have performed a base install of debian and have lsmod | grep snd, and... it appears that alsa drivers are installed for my soundcard? this confuses me, as all the info i have gathered regards soundcards and alsa under debian sarge, suggest that discover auto loads oss drivers? can someone advise? |
| 20:30.25 | ubushine | asg, no oident either. i do have an initrd-tools.sh |
| 20:30.27 | asg | ubushine: yes. I the worst that can happen is that some irc servers will refuse to let you in and some mail servers will wait 30 seconds before they give you a prompt to accept mail. |
| 20:30.37 | asg | ubushine: initrd is something totally different |
| 20:30.44 | tuv | can't a directory have attributes.. i've a few empty directories under lost+found that i can't get rid of no matter what i do |
| 20:30.51 | asg | s/I the/The/ |
| 20:31.01 | asg | tuv: lsattr |
| 20:31.18 | tuv | asg: returns nothing on direcotories |
| 20:31.20 | ubushine | asg, well i don't see anything else close to identd in the defaults |
| 20:31.38 | asg | ubushine: dpkg -l | grep -i ident |
| 20:31.44 | tuv | asg: is lsattr supposed to work on directories or only files? |
| 20:32.04 | ubushine | asg, pidentd and libident |
| 20:32.15 | asg | tuv: files officially |
| 20:32.23 | ubushine | asg, also discover1 and libdiscover1 |
| 20:32.23 | asg | ubushine: then remove them |
| 20:32.30 | asg | ubushine: discover* are fine |
| 20:32.33 | tuv | asg: how can i delete those dirs. then? |
| 20:32.54 | asg | tuv: if you can't delete them as root, use 'strace -o trace rm /foo' to see why |
| 20:32.56 | ubushine | asg, so delete the ident packages or just comment out the line in inetd.conf? |
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| 20:33.30 | asg | ubushine: either apt-get remove --purge foo or comment the line from inetd.conf. Removing the package is better from a security standpoint but that's up to you. |
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| 20:33.37 | Quibus | So, does anyone have a clue why I need to modoprobe during boot? |
| 20:33.44 | blondie | SIGH |
| 20:33.57 | ubushine | asg, last question. should i replace inetd with xinetd? or not use it at all? |
| 20:33.57 | tuv | asg: strace -o trace rmdir \#9240660/ |
| 20:33.57 | tuv | rmdir: `#9240660/': Operation not permitted |
| 20:34.04 | david___ | can anyone help with default debian soundcard drivers? |
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| 20:34.18 | blondie | installing stuff via usb key is a nightmare (dependencies) |
| 20:34.22 | asg | ubushine: I'd remove it if you don't need it. Generally, you won't. |
| 20:34.37 | david___ | aren't any drivers listed by lsmod with the snd_ prefix, alsa modules? |
| 20:34.39 | ubushine | asg, thanks for all your help. you're one busy dude. cheers. |
| 20:34.52 | asg | tuv: look at the trace file and see if anything obvious presents itself |
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| 20:34.56 | Glanzmann | Hello everyone; |
| 20:34.58 | asg | ubushine: you're welcome |
| 20:35.12 | Glanzmann | I would like to compile xserver (from xorg CVS HEAD) on Debian Etch. |
| 20:35.23 | Glanzmann | Has someone a script or some tips which auto* versions to use? |
| 20:35.31 | Glanzmann | And which build dependencies have to be installed? |
| 20:35.40 | asg | Glanzmann: if gravity is online, he's the one most likely to know |
| 20:35.50 | asg | !seen gravity |
| 20:35.50 | dpkg | gravity <n=david@pool-141-157-184-73.bos.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1d 14h 45m 11s ago, saying: 'unlearn: Don't do that'. |
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| 20:36.56 | asg | !give dvs a pork pie |
| 20:36.57 | dpkg | give dvs a pork pie |
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| 20:37.01 | resiak | .. |
| 20:37.03 | dw_ | hi guys |
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| 20:37.11 | dvs | ??? |
| 20:37.13 | dw_ | is it possible to send a message to another user on the network if I know their IP? |
| 20:37.14 | strider | Glanzmann: check the modular devs guide on x.org |
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| 20:37.32 | asg | dw_: if they are running a talkd, yes. |
| 20:37.52 | Thanatermesis | i have needed to reboot forcely the computer, im on reiserfs... any person knows where is the list of things unlinked to are deleted after my actual boot ? |
| 20:37.56 | asg | dw_: if you have an ssh account on their system, then 'ssh me@foo write ...' will work also |
| 20:38.11 | dw_ | asg: if they're a windoze user with a standard Windoze install? |
| 20:38.17 | tuv | asg: does this line tell anything: rmdir("#9240660/") = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) |
| 20:38.33 | da5id_ | hi, i have a problem with a directory i cannot rename using the mv (or cp) command |
| 20:38.34 | asg | dw_: you might be able to use winpopup functionality from the samba suite |
| 20:38.35 | tuv | asg: i mean the EPERM |
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| 20:38.46 | resiak | !tell david___ about installit |
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| 20:39.06 | dw_ | asg: that would be cool |
| 20:39.07 | asg | tuv: that means you don't have permissions. Are you running selinux, grsec, or bsd securelevels support? |
| 20:39.15 | da5id_ | it contains a character that was a umlaut on a fat32 filesystem |
| 20:39.19 | tuv | asg: none |
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| 20:39.36 | da5id_ | using single and double quotes also doesn't help |
| 20:39.56 | asg | tuv: then I'd reboot and fsck the filesystem again. If that doesn't work, try moving #blalblah to /tmp/test and see if you can delete it then. |
| 20:40.02 | tuv | asg: i had a similar problem with few files, but lsattr showed they had an 'i' flag which i removed and then removed the files successfully |
| 20:40.20 | tuv | asg: ok |
| 20:40.23 | da5id_ | ls -l output is: drwxr-xr-x 2 dave dave 4096 2006-03-18 21:19 Sp?tantike |
| 20:40.37 | asg | tuv: yes, 'i' via lsattr is immutable meaning root can't touch them. chattr -i foo will remove that allowing a removal to take place. |
| 20:40.53 | blondie | azeem: I've installed etherconf and told it to configure eth1, but it doesnt put anything in interfaces for it |
| 20:40.53 | da5id_ | i'm told I don't have the necessary permissions either as user dave or root |
| 20:41.02 | tuv | asg: problem is, lsattr <dir> returns nothing |
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| 20:41.36 | ParoXsitiC | I am having troubles getting an additional IP added to my system. I have various files and comments listed at this site. PLEASE HELP http://brianhare.com/help.html |
| 20:41.44 | asg | tuv: yes, it looks like filesystem borkage or a bug in the extended attributes system. |
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| 20:42.30 | azeem | blondie: hrm, no idea |
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| 20:42.36 | azeem | never used it myself |
| 20:42.41 | azeem | (after install) |
| 20:42.41 | asg | ParoXsitiC: #iptables may be a better forum (provided you can ping the ip for eth0:0 internally) |
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| 20:42.55 | ParoXsitiC | asg: i can |
| 20:43.08 | asg | ParoXsitiC: then it's an iptables issue. Try #iptables first |
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| 20:43.25 | Supaplex | is this kid still moaning over iptables? |
| 20:43.35 | blondie | azeem: easiest to reinstall everything c.c |
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| 20:44.35 | Glanzmann | strider / asg: Thanks. Working on modula devs guide. |
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| 20:47.09 | Thanatermesis | i have needed to reboot forcely the computer, im on reiserfs... any person knows where is the list of things unlinked to are deleted after my actual boot ? |
| 20:47.24 | pollywog | I disabled journaling on a reiserfs partition, if my machine crashes, would I use fsck the same as in ext2? |
| 20:48.08 | resiak | Thanatermesis: lost+found? |
| 20:48.12 | resiak | !ricerfs |
| 20:48.12 | dpkg | somebody said ricerfs was the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
| 20:48.20 | Stevie | hahaha |
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| 20:48.33 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
| 20:48.37 | pollywog | and the spelling is reiserfs |
| 20:48.43 | pollywog | not ricerfs |
| 20:48.46 | resiak | ... |
| 20:48.53 | asg | pollywog: ricerfs is a joke |
| 20:48.54 | resiak | You miss the WHOLE ENTIRE POINT |
| 20:48.57 | pollywog | oic |
| 20:48.59 | resiak | !ricer |
| 20:48.59 | dpkg | from memory, ricer is at gentoo |
| 20:49.12 | Stevie | at gentoo? |
| 20:49.16 | Stevie | !ricer |
| 20:49.16 | dpkg | methinks ricer is at gentoo |
| 20:49.18 | scarynetworkguy | resiak: He uses ricerfs. Did you *really* think he'd get the joke? |
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| 20:49.35 | Thanatermesis | !reiserfs |
| 20:49.35 | dpkg | i guess reiserfs is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See ext3, xfs, or jfs for safer filesystems. |
| 20:49.37 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: how come you gallery replaces _ with space? |
| 20:49.45 | resiak | scarynetworkguy: you make a good point... although hexxeh uses ricer |
| 20:50.03 | pollywog | but back to my problem, would I use fsck to check the filesystem if journaling is disabled? |
| 20:50.13 | scarynetworkguy | resiak: There's an exception that proves every rule. So, yeah, Fair enough. :) |
| 20:50.17 | resiak | :-) |
| 20:50.29 | asg | resiak: hexxeh lives dangerously |
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| 20:50.45 | Thanatermesis | don't flamewar... the 50 % speaks to reiserfs is good and ext* sucks and same for inverse |
| 20:50.47 | criminy | are there any guides for installing sarge from an already installed linux system? |
| 20:50.56 | resiak | Thanatermesis: Or you could use xfs? |
| 20:51.06 | stew | criminy: /msg dpkg chroot install |
| 20:51.07 | Thanatermesis | yes, i use also xfs |
| 20:51.12 | Stevie | eh... what kind of crash kills ricerfs? |
| 20:51.18 | Zrin | how can I find out with which version of gcc the testing' firefox was compiled with? |
| 20:51.41 | criminy | thanks stew |
| 20:51.43 | asg | Thanatermesis: from experience, I've never had data loss with ext3. I've experienced loss 3/3 times with reiser. |
| 20:51.44 | pollywog | a crash did not kill it, I just crashed and the filesystem is unclean |
| 20:51.47 | pigor | hi. sound does not work. i have installed alsa, alsa-modulesxx. but e.g. when i wanna play a song with xmms there is an error message. |
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| 20:52.13 | strider | Glanzmann: though you could wait a little while if you're running Sid |
| 20:52.15 | Thanatermesis | asg and same inverse |
| 20:52.29 | pollywog | I have not had problems with reiser but I disabled journaling on one partition |
| 20:52.34 | resiak | why?! |
| 20:52.50 | pollywog | so I could use wipe utilities on that partition |
| 20:53.02 | pollywog | journaling prevents them from working |
| 20:53.07 | asg | Thanatermesis: *shrug* never seen the inverse or reports of it from people I could trust. |
| 20:53.38 | Stevie | Here's a question... why is it that you can't undelete a file from a journaled fs? |
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| 20:54.06 | Thanatermesis | asg you have lost data with reiserfs ? with a crash/reboot ? |
| 20:54.08 | pigor | how to config my sound-system? i have installed alsa, alsa-modules-xxx and it does not work. |
| 20:54.16 | asg | Stevie: you can (see libtrash) |
| 20:54.20 | Stevie | okay |
| 20:54.29 | pollywog | and alsa-base? |
| 20:54.30 | asg | Thanatermesis: yes |
| 20:54.33 | Glanzmann | strider: No Ican't wait. |
| 20:54.37 | pollywog | did you install alsa-base? |
| 20:54.39 | Glanzmann | strider: I don't wait for debian developers. |
| 20:54.51 | Glanzmann | strider: I have an iMac Mini and I want this accelerated graphic driver. |
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| 20:54.57 | Glanzmann | And I don't want it in 10 minutes. |
| 20:55.01 | Glanzmann | I want it now. :-) |
| 20:55.02 | asg | Glanzmann: then run OS/X |
| 20:55.05 | Glanzmann | So I cimplie it myself. |
| 20:55.06 | Stevie | asg: Wait, that's not what I asked |
| 20:55.07 | Zrin | how can I find out with which version of gcc the testing' firefox was compiled with? |
| 20:55.09 | Glanzmann | asg: No, I dislike it. |
| 20:55.12 | motty | how do i make my sound work using c-media soundcard onboard and intel 865 chipset |
| 20:55.17 | Glanzmann | asg: But it is good for watching movie trailers. |
| 20:55.18 | pollywog | zrin use ldd |
| 20:55.18 | asg | Glanzmann: then hack your own driver support |
| 20:55.24 | Glanzmann | But, I think I get it running today. |
| 20:55.31 | Glanzmann | asg: The driver is already written. |
| 20:55.33 | pollywog | ldd <binary> |
| 20:55.36 | Glanzmann | Just need to compile it. |
| 20:55.38 | pigor | pollywog: just a moment ... |
| 20:55.39 | Stevie | asg: I didn't ask "is there a way to make deletions impermanent", I asked "why is it that you can't undelete files from a journaled fs" |
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| 20:56.07 | Stevie | Because I've been told that undeletion programs don't work on e.g. ext3 |
| 20:56.09 | Assid | sup stevie |
| 20:56.11 | asg | Stevie: you can, the current tools don't take that into account. The coroner's toolkit, however, might be able to do that. |
| 20:56.16 | motty | how do i make my sound work using c-media soundcard onboard and intel 865 chipset on etch |
| 20:56.23 | strider | Glanzmann: ok. if you can't get it done, there are packages available in Experimental |
| 20:56.29 | Stevie | Assid: get anywhere? |
| 20:56.30 | blondie | SIGH |
| 20:56.33 | Assid | nah |
| 20:56.37 | Thanatermesis | asg i don't have look any similar problem since 4 years |
| 20:56.41 | Assid | one thing i realized an hour back actually |
| 20:56.43 | blondie | why does etch detect my primary harddisk as "hde"? ffs |
| 20:56.46 | Assid | i have another box.. EXACT same hardware |
| 20:56.47 | Stevie | Assid: had you tried rebuilding your initramfs? |
| 20:56.47 | Assid | so.. |
| 20:57.08 | Stevie | blondie: if it does, then you probably have a pci ide card |
| 20:57.13 | blondie | no I dont |
| 20:57.20 | Assid | im just taking the same .config of 2.6.11 .. went through it in menconfig.. and recompiling now |
| 20:57.27 | Stevie | blondie: mobo has builtin RAID or SATA? |
| 20:57.35 | Assid | since devfs dropped in 2.6.9 and this config is of 2.6.11 |
| 20:57.42 | blondie | it has raid but thats disabled |
| 20:57.43 | blondie | ffs |
| 20:57.46 | pigor | pollywog: yes - alsa-base is installed, too |
| 20:57.53 | Zrin | pollywog: I did ldd -v firefox-bin, now I see all the shared library dependencies, but how can I recognize if "if Mozilla was compiled with gcc2.9"? |
| 20:57.53 | blondie | it was hda the last time I installed it (an hour ago) |
| 20:58.01 | Assid | Stevie: you think it will work? |
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| 20:58.45 | Agent_ANDY | Dctv ghbdtn |
| 20:58.45 | Thanatermesis | asg how to use libtrash if is a lib ? |
| 20:58.47 | Agent_ANDY | âñåì ïðèâåò |
| 20:58.47 | Agent_ANDY | =) |
| 20:58.52 | blondie | windows is going back on this box at this rate |
| 20:58.55 | Agent_ANDY | À˨ ÅÑÒÜ ÐÓÑÊÈÅ? |
| 20:58.56 | Stevie | Thanatermesis: probably with LD_PRELOAD |
| 20:58.59 | asg | Thanatermesis: you use LD_PRELOAD |
| 20:59.13 | Agent_ANDY | ÝÉÏÈÄÀÐÑÛ |
| 20:59.14 | asg | Thanatermesis: it preempts a number of c library functions |
| 20:59.16 | Stevie | Assid: worth a shot |
| 20:59.18 | Agent_ANDY | )) |
| 20:59.25 | Agent_ANDY | ÏÈÄÀÐÀÑÛ ÎÒÊËÈÊÍÈÒÅÑÜ! |
| 20:59.26 | pollywog | Zrin try the file command |
| 20:59.27 | larrikin | I have a system still using devfs .. can someone remind me how/if I can instruct the devfs driver to completely ignore a given /dev/.. node ? |
| 20:59.27 | Assid | still havent slept :( |
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| 20:59.30 | asg | Agent_ANDY: speak English or fuck off |
| 20:59.33 | pollywog | file <binary> |
| 20:59.44 | Thanatermesis | Agent_ANDY you fun ? |
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| 20:59.52 | Zrin | pollywog: firefox-bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
| 20:59.59 | Agent_ANDY | do you speak Russian? NIGER? :))) |
| 21:00.03 | motty | how do i make my sound work using c-media soundcard onboard and intel 865 chipset on etch |
| 21:00.23 | asg | Agent_ANDY: better than you apparently |
| 21:00.31 | XoR_ | how i can install rtl8139 network card ??? i can't find module :( |
| 21:00.36 | Agent_ANDY | kiss my ass :)) |
| 21:00.39 | dvs | !install alsa |
| 21:00.41 | VulpesFoxnik | motty: have you installed alsa |
| 21:00.43 | Zrin | pollywog: but how will I ever be able to know whit what version of gcc it was compiled? and if it was compiled with gcc anyway?!? |
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| 21:00.58 | Thanatermesis | asg good point, hehe |
| 21:00.58 | Stevie | Zrin: There is no reliable method to determine that |
| 21:01.04 | deadcat | XoR_: its 8319too driver right? try to load that |
| 21:01.06 | kasper | I've got the same question... I cannot make my soundcard work. |
| 21:01.10 | kasper | Please, anyone? |
| 21:01.12 | asg | Thanatermesis: ;) |
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| 21:01.34 | pigor | my soundcard does not work, too |
| 21:01.37 | Agent_ANDY | ÎËÅ! ÎËÅ ÎËÅ! |
| 21:01.40 | Agent_ANDY | Äåáàèí ðóëèò |
| 21:01.42 | dvs | any else?!? |
| 21:01.48 | Dwonis | Isn't Niger a country? |
| 21:01.51 | VulpesFoxnik | Have any of you run alsaconf yet? |
| 21:01.57 | kasper | Yes, |
| 21:02.00 | asg | !ops Agent_ANDY is spouting gibberish and needs a stick in the head |
| 21:02.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Agent_ANDY is spouting gibberish and needs a stick in the head |
| 21:02.00 | kasper | No point |
| 21:02.02 | Zrin | Stevie: that why does java plugin installation method require that "In the ln command line above, use ns7-gcc29 if Mozilla was compiled with gcc2.9." ... oh man, should i start to hate linux? |
| 21:02.03 | dvs | kasper, pigor, motty: install alsa! |
| 21:02.06 | pollywog | Zrin let me check if dpkg tells that |
| 21:02.10 | motty | alsa installed |
| 21:02.12 | kasper | dvs, how? |
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| 21:02.14 | kasper | Oh |
| 21:02.14 | Agent_ANDY | rm -f / |
| 21:02.15 | Agent_ANDY | :)) |
| 21:02.16 | kasper | Yeah me 2 |
| 21:02.21 | kasper | Have ALSA installed. |
| 21:02.23 | Stevie | Zrin: It sounds more like you should start to hate Java |
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| 21:02.24 | asg | Agent_ANDY: /j #shell |
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| 21:02.25 | XoR_ | deadcat: 8139too != rtl8139 :( - kernel not use this 8139too module on my network card rtl8138(D) |
| 21:02.25 | dvs | motty: alsaconf? |
| 21:02.27 | Agent_ANDY | Debian Sarge RULEZ :) |
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| 21:02.39 | pigor | dvs: i have installed ... but i will try alsaconf now ... |
| 21:02.40 | duplex | heh |
| 21:02.41 | Thanatermesis | crazy ppl... |
| 21:02.42 | asg | azeem: thanks |
| 21:02.43 | deadcat | XoR_: oh. i dont know then. |
| 21:02.46 | Dwonis | azeem: thanks |
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| 21:02.58 | dvs | pigor: That loads the proper ALSA kernel modules |
| 21:03.00 | deadcat | XoR_: they looked the same to me (= |
| 21:03.11 | dvs | pigor: if possible |
| 21:03.18 | XoR_ | but not for me :( |
| 21:03.19 | Thanatermesis | sometimes i don't understand the human mind |
| 21:03.25 | VulpesFoxnik | apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils |
| 21:03.30 | asg | Thanatermesis: you could make a mint if you did |
| 21:03.36 | Zrin | Stevie: it's a nightmare even for me, with over 15 years of extensive programming and over 7 years of unix experience |
| 21:03.37 | pollywog | pigor sorry, did you look for alsaconf command? |
| 21:03.38 | djp | how do i search with aptitude from the command line? |
| 21:03.38 | dvs | Thanatermesis: At least you have a mind! ;-) |
| 21:03.52 | kasper | OMG dvs I LVOE YOU! |
| 21:03.55 | pollywog | I believe it is in the alsa-base package |
| 21:03.59 | VulpesFoxnik | Alsaconf in the Alsa-utils package |
| 21:03.59 | kasper | THANK YOU dvs! |
| 21:04.12 | XoR_ | who knows, about rtl8139 kernel modules ??? |
| 21:04.12 | VulpesFoxnik | not the alsa-base |
| 21:04.13 | dvs | kasper: you're welcome. One down, two to go |
| 21:04.14 | asg | dvs: isn't lvoe some form of scented soap? |
| 21:04.24 | kasper | Thanks. |
| 21:04.29 | dvs | asg: That's dove. |
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| 21:04.32 | XoR_ | my network card rtl8139 (D) doesn't work |
| 21:04.35 | XoR_ | :( |
| 21:04.39 | dvs | asg: and it doesn't have much of anything. |
| 21:04.45 | XoR_ | i use kernel 2.6.15 |
| 21:04.45 | pollywog | thanks VulpesFoxnik |
| 21:04.46 | asg | dvs: also a good chocolate |
| 21:05.11 | Stevie | xorian`: what's this say? ifconfig -a | egrep '^\S' |
| 21:06.08 | duplex | XoR_: Did you compile support for your network card in the kernel? |
| 21:06.09 | valdyn | !fix XoR_ |
| 21:06.09 | XoR_ | Stevie: nothing :( |
| 21:06.26 | VulpesFoxnik | Xor_: You have discover installed? |
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| 21:07.00 | VulpesFoxnik | I have a rt8139 on my system board |
| 21:07.10 | j2 | I am trying to figure out why my users do not get write access to a share (Runninf 3.0.21c on Debian) This is probably my 50th samba server, and everything seems to be correct. Is there any way to get debug info to tell you _what_ it the problem? Fs rights? smbpasswd problem? smb.conf problem? |
| 21:07.11 | Stevie | sorry, i'm getting confused |
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| 21:07.14 | VulpesFoxnik | It does however have a glitch |
| 21:07.15 | XoR_ | duplex: i compile in kernel 8139too and 8139cp but it doesn't to work :( |
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| 21:07.18 | j2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.20 | Stevie | XoR_: ifconfig -a | grep '^\w' |
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| 21:08.07 | XoR_ | Stevie: ifconfig -a shows only interfaces: lo and sit0 |
| 21:08.42 | valdyn | j2: all users are supposed to have rw access to that share? |
| 21:08.42 | Stevie | lspci | grep Ethernet |
| 21:08.44 | pollywog | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.46 | Stevie | XoR_ |
| 21:08.51 | ParoXsitiC | I am having troubles getting an additional IP added to my system. I have various files and comments listed at this site. PLEASE HELP http://brianhare.com/help.html |
| 21:09.01 | VulpesFoxnik | Xor_ Crazy question... Do you have dchp installed? |
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| 21:09.05 | Stevie | ParoXsitiC: ifconfig eth0:0 up 1.2.3.4 |
| 21:09.12 | Thanatermesis | sorry asg... mmmh, how i use LD_PRELOAD for libtrash ? its a interesant thing for have in the system working :) |
| 21:09.12 | pollywog | doesn't that indicate the version of gcc indirectly? |
| 21:09.21 | j2 | valdyn: No. Security is user, and the user in question is member of a group which have full access to the share. |
| 21:09.27 | asg | Thanatermesis: it should be well documented in /usr/share/doc/libtrash/* |
| 21:09.37 | pigor | pollywog, dvs: thank you! soundcard now works fine. alsaconf was the key ... thanks !! |
| 21:09.47 | valdyn | !vfatrw |
| 21:09.47 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux).. |
| 21:09.54 | valdyn | j2: works for smbfs too |
| 21:09.54 | silensius | how can i vieuw correctly turkish font in console when my local is in french ? |
| 21:10.12 | VulpesFoxnik | !ntfsro |
| 21:10.13 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 21:10.20 | Thanatermesis | oh... yes, i have forget this :) |
| 21:10.21 | pollywog | if it does not start on boot, pigor, you might add the module to /etc/modules |
| 21:10.25 | XoR_ | Stevie: lspci | grep Ethernet -> .. Ethernet controller: Realtek .... ... ... Unknown device 8119 |
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| 21:10.28 | streuner_ | !keymap |
| 21:10.28 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
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| 21:10.36 | pollywog | but I think alsaconf will do it |
| 21:10.40 | Dwonis | XoR_: You missed the important part... the PCI IDs! |
| 21:10.44 | j2 | valdyn: I think you are missunderstanding me. It is a samba server. to which i want to connect Windows clients. I am not trying to use smbfs to connect to a Win32-box. |
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| 21:10.53 | ParoXsitiC | Stevie: now what. eth0:0 is now 1.2.3.4 |
| 21:10.55 | Stevie | XoR_: what's the start? |
| 21:10.58 | valdyn | j2: ok I see |
| 21:11.02 | Stevie | ParoXsitiC: There. you have another IP on eth0 |
| 21:11.07 | Thanatermesis | returning in the reiserfs thing... any person knows where is listed the files deleted after a crash ? |
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| 21:11.40 | ParoXsitiC | Stevie: if you took a look at my site, i previously had that set. I want people to access that IP from the outside |
| 21:11.46 | pollywog | Thanatermesis: did you turn off journaling? |
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| 21:11.57 | Thanatermesis | pollywog no, its the default |
| 21:12.00 | XoR_ | Stevie: 000:00:14:0 Ethernet Controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co Ltd known device 8119 (rev 10) |
| 21:12.01 | pollywog | k |
| 21:12.15 | Stevie | lspci -vn -s 00:14.0 |
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| 21:12.48 | valdyn | j2: 'smbpasswd problem' i would think, did you use it to create passwords? for users that _also_ exist in your debian and that _also_ have write access from debian? |
| 21:12.59 | Stevie | xorian`: what's it say after "000:00:14:0" |
| 21:13.01 | Stevie | err |
| 21:13.02 | Stevie | XoR_ |
| 21:13.57 | pollywog | Thanatermesis: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4466 |
| 21:14.05 | Thanatermesis | thx |
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| 21:15.12 | Zrin | firefox offered to open .java file with "default (less)" ... and got stuck ... typicall unix |
| 21:15.20 | Thanatermesis | asg what do you think about xfs ? |
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| 21:15.34 | XoR_ | Stevie: xor:/# lspci | grep Ethernet |
| 21:15.34 | XoR_ | 0000:00:14.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 8119 (rev 10) |
| 21:15.42 | Stevie | XoR_: lspci -vn -s 00:14.0 |
| 21:15.48 | valdyn | Zrin: uh? |
| 21:16.23 | Zrin | valdyn: debian testing / minimal fresh install / vncserver with wmaker |
| 21:16.45 | Shadowcat | personally I don't see why one would open .java with less |
| 21:16.49 | XoR_ | Stevie: lspci -vn -s 00:14.0 |
| 21:16.49 | XoR_ | 0000:00:14.0 0200: 10ec:8119 (rev 10) |
| 21:16.49 | XoR_ | Subsystem: 10ec:8119 |
| 21:16.49 | XoR_ | Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 |
| 21:16.49 | XoR_ | I/O ports at e800 [size=256] |
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| 21:16.54 | Shadowcat | you DO know what .java is right? |
| 21:17.14 | valdyn | Zrin: what's the problem? that firefox cant start 'less'? |
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| 21:17.33 | Stevie | XoR_: WHat kind of card do you think this is? |
| 21:17.40 | Zrin | valdyn: it starts less somwhere in nirvana and freezes |
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| 21:17.47 | strider | Zrin: you can change it in preferences |
| 21:17.53 | XoR_ | Stevie: rtl8139 (D) |
| 21:18.03 | Zrin | strider: of course |
| 21:18.06 | Shadowcat | Zrin: again, do you know what a .java file is? |
| 21:18.16 | Dwonis | XoR_: Is this a very new card? |
| 21:18.30 | Stevie | (D) ? |
| 21:18.34 | Stevie | what's the (D) ? |
| 21:18.39 | MatBoy | What can I use for realtime data-replication on files.... master <> master ? |
| 21:18.40 | XoR_ | Dwonis: yes, i today by it!!! |
| 21:18.45 | Zrin | valdyn: i killed that less, now i have "[less] <defunct>" and freezed firefox |
| 21:19.02 | valdyn | Zrin: file a bugreport |
| 21:19.03 | Zrin | Shad0wcat: I wrote several apps in java |
| 21:19.04 | Assid | Stevie: didnt work |
| 21:19.08 | valdyn | Zrin: or look at the bts |
| 21:19.34 | Shadowcat | Zrin: so why are you opening a source file with less? |
| 21:19.35 | XoR_ | Stevie: 8139 is A/B/C/D i use D card |
| 21:19.43 | Stevie | ah |
| 21:19.45 | Shadowcat | you should be saving the file and opening it with vi/emacs |
| 21:19.57 | Dwonis | XoR_: Are you familiar with patching your kernel? |
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| 21:20.07 | Stevie | XoR_: What's printed on the chip on the card? |
| 21:20.12 | Assid | Stevie: what do you suggest i do |
| 21:20.18 | Assid | its an EXACT same box |
| 21:20.21 | Stevie | Assid: Just install Debian? |
| 21:20.31 | Stevie | etch works |
| 21:20.42 | Assid | its a dedicated box remote |
| 21:21.00 | beered | how can I find out what GW and DNS my if is bound to? |
| 21:21.08 | Zrin | Shad0wcat: I just wanted to read it in firefox as there was a link to it in a html page ... nm |
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| 21:21.17 | valdyn | beered: your if doesnt ever bind to a DNS |
| 21:21.28 | valdyn | beered: your gateway you can see in 'route' |
| 21:21.32 | j2 | beered: 'cat /etc/resolv' and 'route' (but you dont truly 'bind' to them) |
| 21:21.34 | Dwonis | Stevie: I believe XoR is probably right that it's an RTL 8139 card. |
| 21:21.44 | Stevie | Dwonis: This is true. |
| 21:22.03 | markybob | j2, that's resolv.conf |
| 21:22.06 | beered | ok. got it. ty. |
| 21:22.26 | Stevie | Dwonis: I had to patch a driver for some Hawking gigabit card that has the same PCI IDs with 3 different hardware versions, each with a different chipset |
| 21:22.32 | valdyn | beered: run update-pciids and repeat lspci thing |
| 21:22.37 | j2 | markybob: I know. I even typed <tab> in my IRC-window... but i guess i do not have FS tab completion here ;) |
| 21:22.42 | Assid | you know what.. |
| 21:22.46 | valdyn | beered: oh nm sorry |
| 21:22.59 | Dwonis | XoR_: I had a similar problem a few years ago. The problem is that many cards often have different PCI IDs (because they some from different *board* manufacturers) even though they have the same chipsets inside. |
| 21:23.03 | Assid | im gonna try this.. im gonna archive the whole box and extract it ont he other |
| 21:23.22 | valdyn | XoR_: run update-pciids and show us the lspci output again.. |
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| 21:23.52 | Assid | and then just copy over fstab and shadow and stuff |
| 21:24.15 | Assid | will that work? |
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| 21:24.35 | Assid | both the boxes have same hardware.. |
| 21:25.36 | Dwonis | valdyn, XoR_: Don't bother with the update-pciids. I checked and it's not in there. |
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| 21:26.46 | Dwonis | XoR_: If you're familiar with patching your kernel, you could try just adding "{0x10ec, 0x8119, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, RTL8139 }" to the list of cards that the 8139too.c driver supports. |
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| 21:27.23 | XoR_ | hmmm |
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| 21:27.56 | XoR_ | Dwonis: patching kernel and then recompile kernel ? |
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| 21:28.05 | Dwonis | XoR_: yes |
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| 21:29.26 | ParoXsitiC | I need help setting up additional IPs, please visit this site as I have listed my interfaces and etc. www.brianhare.com/help.html |
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| 21:30.32 | blondie | ParoXsitiC: for one thing, you put eht0 instead of eth0 twice |
| 21:30.40 | blondie | erm once |
| 21:30.58 | blondie | and what is "the windows PC"? |
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| 21:31.09 | Mech422 | hi all - Can anyone recommend a good wireless card for use with Debian STABLE ? Are prism based cards still the best bet ?? |
| 21:31.13 | Stevie | blondie: You mean it isn't obvious? :) |
| 21:31.23 | Stevie | personally I still like orinoco cards |
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| 21:31.35 | blondie | I like wired cards :| |
| 21:32.13 | Mech422 | Stevie: orinoco - I thought that was a version of the prisms... Ok, any other recommendations ? |
| 21:32.15 | beered | Mech422: I'm happy with my 2200BG. WPA2 and everything 'just works'. |
| 21:32.25 | SimonRaven | Stevie: the one running the POS OS? |
| 21:32.39 | Stevie | bingo |
| 21:32.40 | Mech422 | beered: oh - thats what I need - one that just works for my firewall.... |
| 21:32.41 | Stevie | :) |
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| 21:33.00 | beered | Mech422: no IV injection support though, but I didn't need that anyways. |
| 21:33.28 | Mech422 | beered: IV injection ?? I think I just need wpa/wep only ? |
| 21:33.39 | Mech422 | promisc. mode would be nice too |
| 21:33.57 | Mech422 | just basic routing and openvpn/ssh stuff |
| 21:34.24 | strider | beered: it requires the evil intel fw and problems with monitor mode and fw restarts which just about got fixed recently. |
| 21:34.49 | beered | strider: for IV injection? |
| 21:34.58 | strider | nah in general |
| 21:35.20 | beered | Mech422: Intel 2200BG in an internal card that comes on many laptops. If you are buying external card go with Prism 2.5 cards. |
| 21:35.29 | XoR_ | Dwonis and Stevie, there is my "beautiful" network card foto http://xor.rullz.lv/tmp/rtl8139d.png :) |
| 21:35.40 | beered | strider: it worked for me out of the box. |
| 21:36.13 | Mech422 | beered: who makes that card |
| 21:36.27 | Mech422 | oh - sorry - Intel |
| 21:36.34 | strider | beered: really? no need for the firmware? |
| 21:36.42 | beered | strider: nope. |
| 21:36.55 | beered | strider: can you post your lspci for the card? |
| 21:37.04 | beered | Mech422: google for Prism 2.5 cards. |
| 21:37.11 | Mech422 | beered: I have a pci dlink dwl-520 (prism 2.5) - but I couldn't get it working... |
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| 21:37.38 | Mech422 | beered: tried the hostap driver and the ndiswrapper driver for it.. |
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| 21:37.56 | Mech422 | debian stable doesn't seem to have wlan-ng package, so I didn't try that one |
| 21:38.11 | beered | Mech422: why stable? |
| 21:38.31 | strider | 0000:02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05) |
| 21:38.36 | Mech422 | beered: its for a firewall - wanna keep it on stable for security/reliability reasons |
| 21:38.37 | Dwonis | XoR_: To be clear, I checked Debian's Linux 2.6.15 sources, and I don't see *any* driver that claims to support 10ec:8119, so you'll definitely have to do something with your kernel. |
| 21:39.16 | Dwonis | XoR_: Heh. I'd say that's probably an RTL8139D card... :) |
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| 21:39.25 | XoR_ | :) |
| 21:39.31 | Travis_ | anyone know anything about making .deb packages? |
| 21:39.43 | Mech422 | beered: actually - the odd part is, the wireless will be the 'internet interface' and the on-board eepro100 will be the 'local interface' - backwards from most setups |
| 21:40.11 | beered | strider: I have the same card. |
| 21:40.15 | Dwonis | XoR_: Are you using one of the stock Debian kernels? If so, which one? |
| 21:40.55 | strider | beered: it's very common ;) |
| 21:41.04 | beered | Mech422: you may want to search google for more info. |
| 21:41.38 | Mech422 | beered: RTFM'ing now - just wasn't sure if the prism's were still the best bet... |
| 21:41.39 | strider | beered: with all those centrinos around. They've launched a new one with the Core Duo/Solo |
| 21:41.44 | beered | strider: I got everything working with latest ieee80211 and ipw2200 modules under 2.6.15.6. No firmware upgrades, no nothing. |
| 21:41.48 | XoR_ | Dwonis: yes, before i compile kernel, i use debian kernel 2.6.15-1-k7 |
| 21:42.06 | Mech422 | beered: assuming I go with a prism2.5 - which driver you recommend ? hostap ? wlan-ng ? stock kernel ? |
| 21:42.15 | Dwonis | XoR_: "before I compile"? So you're using a custom kernel now? |
| 21:42.37 | strider | beered: fw 3.0 is out. ipw2200-1.1.12 and ieee80211-1.1.10 i think |
| 21:42.41 | beered | Mech422: I don't have a prism card. Maybe somebody else can help you with that. I have Intel 2200BG which is a miniPCI built in. |
| 21:42.46 | XoR_ | Dwonis: now i use custom kernel! |
| 21:42.52 | Mech422 | beered: ah - sorry |
| 21:43.18 | XoR_ | Dwonis: but this kernel i compile with debian config file!!! |
| 21:43.40 | strider | beered: but overall, it's quite good. no need for all that ndiswrapper nonsense :) |
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| 21:44.50 | beered | strider: yep. I have Orinoco card but don't use it anymore. I think IPW support is excellent. |
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| 21:45.33 | Dwonis | XoR_: ok, hold on |
| 21:45.52 | Travis_ | is there a channel for like debian developers? |
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| 21:46.07 | karsten | beered: WiFi support still varies widely. |
| 21:46.13 | karsten | Travis_: #debian-devel |
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| 21:46.46 | SoulPropagation | Is there a show desktop plugin that doesn't restore everything when you try to pop up one window? (GNOME) |
| 21:47.16 | beered | karsten: I prefer Intel cards now. |
| 21:47.56 | st0ner | intel == bad karma |
| 21:48.10 | karsten | beered: I'm trying to get the Linksys WPC55AG running here w/ madwifi. No joy. |
| 21:48.17 | caffei | SoulPropagation, dunno, but kwin only restores selected windows and not everything, fyi ;^) |
| 21:48.35 | deadcat | karsten: 2.6? |
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| 21:48.51 | beered | karsten: I have WPA2 working with Intel mod's. It just works. |
| 21:48.52 | bertel | is there a way to install cryptoloop without havinf to recompile kernel? |
| 21:49.17 | caffei | ah, clicking show desktop again restores everything, but selecting an app from the tasklist restores only that app |
| 21:49.35 | deadcat | bertel: no but you can use bcrypt. crappy but no kernel stuff |
| 21:50.11 | bertel | deadcat, crappy in what way? |
| 21:50.11 | strider | caffei: tasklist? |
| 21:50.13 | deadcat | bertel: or theres always encfs with fuse |
| 21:50.20 | bertel | hm |
| 21:50.23 | caffei | strankan, aka taskbar |
| 21:50.36 | deadcat | bertel: it does 1 files... but you can do 1 iso file.. so i guess it works too (= |
| 21:51.23 | karsten | beered: Onboard WiFi or PCMCIA? |
| 21:51.29 | bertel | hehe |
| 21:51.30 | bertel | nah |
| 21:51.34 | beered | karsten: onboard mPCI. |
| 21:51.39 | bertel | i need to encrypt a whole folder |
| 21:51.43 | karsten | beered: OK, doesn't apply here. |
| 21:51.48 | bertel | that is being used frequently |
| 21:52.01 | strider | deadcat: tried the xgl livecd? |
| 21:52.06 | karsten | beered: You probably want a loopback crypto mount. |
| 21:52.12 | blondie | why isn't VLC in etch? |
| 21:52.23 | deadcat | strider: nah man. the ksomething livecd? the links were dead |
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| 21:52.37 | bertel | i do use a encrypted partition with cryptoloop |
| 21:52.42 | Dwonis | XoR_: http://www.dlitz.net/temp/patch-2.6.15-rtl8139d.html |
| 21:52.47 | bertel | but can only get that to work in kernel 2.6 |
| 21:52.55 | beered | karsten: that;s too bad. i don't what what I would do without wifi. |
| 21:53.02 | bertel | and if i try to mount my RAID systems with 2.6 it fails |
| 21:53.03 | deadcat | bertel: cryptoloop is >= 2.6.4 |
| 21:53.08 | XoR_ | tnx Dwonis |
| 21:53.10 | bertel | okay |
| 21:53.16 | gnufan | bertel: fix the RAID -- what is it? |
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| 21:53.30 | bertel | well |
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| 21:53.38 | deadcat | bertel: fuse and encfs combine does dir |
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| 21:53.43 | blondie | or rather, why isn't vlc in etch when it is in sarge? |
| 21:53.45 | bertel | hm okey |
| 21:53.53 | karsten | beered: I'm using an older Orinico card, but it's got much more limited range. |
| 21:53.55 | deadcat | blondie: broken maybe |
| 21:53.59 | blondie | hm |
| 21:54.00 | Travis_ | is there a chanel for debian developers? |
| 21:54.14 | bertel | fN'gnufan: the raid is a 4x320G mdadm RAID0 |
| 21:54.19 | deadcat | karsten: orinoco card sucks.. i will show you my prism card. (= |
| 21:54.27 | bertel | if i try to mount it in 2.6, it says that the superblock is bad |
| 21:54.28 | Stevie | does dpkg-reconfigure always ask all questions? |
| 21:54.29 | deadcat | Travis_: #debian-devel |
| 21:54.36 | Travis_ | k |
| 21:54.40 | deadcat | strider: most |
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| 21:55.02 | deadcat | strider: which livecd you talking about? |
| 21:55.02 | strider | deadcat: yeah, anyway found a way to get xgl on 6.9 too |
| 21:55.08 | deadcat | damn |
| 21:55.09 | deadcat | hehe |
| 21:55.34 | strider | deadcat: koraora or something like that. Though Serajewe1KS couldn't get it to run |
| 21:55.37 | karsten | deadcat: The Linksys *should* work, struggling with it as I can. |
| 21:55.44 | deadcat | strider: ah. thats the distro |
| 21:55.46 | psychoslave_ | mof |
| 21:56.18 | deadcat | karsten: ya. you might need to upgrade the firmware on that card. its a prism right? my friend had the SAME card. after the firmware upgrade. damn that thing can do shits. |
| 21:56.45 | deadcat | karsten: we just flashed my prism card at his place last sat. |
| 21:57.39 | beered | Cisco used to have that problem too. Few years ago their cards would self update firmaware when you boot in to windows. |
| 21:57.55 | beered | Stupid Cisco. wouldn't buy that shit if they paid me. |
| 21:57.57 | deadcat | beered: hows that a problem then? |
| 21:58.04 | beered | deadcat: what? |
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| 21:59.17 | beered | deadcat: latest Cisco fw renders cards usless for anything but windows. you had to downgrade fw to get airo working again in linux. |
| 21:59.21 | gnufan | Stevie: read the manual page -- but yes by default it does. |
| 21:59.41 | deadcat | beered: well thats if you have windows. |
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| 22:00.58 | erhanr | hi everyone |
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| 22:02.58 | Mech422 | beered: thanks for the help - off to Fry's :-) |
| 22:03.00 | erhanr | today its so quite |
| 22:03.10 | deadcat | Mech422: see you there |
| 22:03.13 | blondie | what do I have to get sound working in etch? with an emu10k1 card |
| 22:03.25 | blondie | lsmod shows the sound drivers are loaded, but /dev/dsp doesnt exist |
| 22:03.27 | deadcat | blondie: load the modules |
| 22:03.36 | blondie | they are loaded |
| 22:03.41 | Mech422 | deadcat: LOL - "Fry's, The ultimate geek weekend " :-P |
| 22:03.42 | deadcat | blondie: snd_pcm_oss ? |
| 22:03.46 | blondie | shrug |
| 22:03.55 | deadcat | Mech422: ya. (= |
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| 22:04.05 | deadcat | Mech422: disney land for geeks |
| 22:04.30 | blondie | deadcat: then what? |
| 22:04.45 | deadcat | blondie: thats about it. cd dev && ./MAKEDEV audio maybe |
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| 22:05.18 | usr13 | is there an epson utility for checking ink levels, etc... ? |
| 22:05.29 | blondie | hm |
| 22:05.37 | blondie | I have audio in /dev |
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| 22:05.52 | deadcat | off the library.. |
| 22:05.55 | deadcat | i dont know |
| 22:05.57 | krummie | how do I enable mod-ssl once it's installed? (I'm using apache 1.3 instead of 2.0) |
| 22:06.24 | blondie | am I meant to add users to the audio group? |
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| 22:09.23 | Crell | Hi folks. I'm trying to setup mailman on a Sarge box and running into some issues. |
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| 22:09.32 | Crell | I'm following through the tutorial here: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/mailman.htm |
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| 22:10.28 | Crell | It seems as if my list has been created, and the link to its archives exists and is empty. But the link to its configuration page either doesn't exist or isn't working. |
| 22:10.44 | Crell | It should be http://my.domain1.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mylistname shouldn't it? |
| 22:11.07 | karsten | Crell: Try sending a message to the list, though IIRC that's for generating archives. |
| 22:11.22 | Crell | I have to subscribe myself first, I guess... |
| 22:11.43 | karsten | Crell: Crell ... have you restarted apache? |
| 22:11.47 | SpyderMan | hi folks. I have Debian running Gnome 2.12 (just moved back to Gnaome as default from Xfce but promise this is not a desktop troll :) ) and I have one gripe that I've always had. It's nothing much, but it niggles me. When "screen fade" type transitions occurs they are dog slow. This PC ain't no world beater, but it's a Dual PIII 1GHz, with an Nvidia FX5950, so they shouldn't take literally seconds to fade the screen to the point where I can see the |
| 22:11.59 | karsten | Crell: ... and modified your Apache config as suggested? |
| 22:12.06 | SpyderMan | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.07 | Crell | karsten: Yes to both. |
| 22:12.21 | karsten | Crell: 'apachectl configtest' says what? |
| 22:12.48 | Crell | It says apachectl command not found. :-) |
| 22:12.55 | Crell | I'm on Apache2, if that makes a difference. |
| 22:13.03 | karsten | Crell: ... and look at your apache system/error logs. Do you see the access requests, are there any related error messages? |
| 22:13.20 | karsten | Crell: ... Possibly. apachectl is a 1.3.x feature, not sure if it got promoted to v2. |
| 22:13.55 | strider | SpyderMan: what do you mean by screen fade? |
| 22:14.16 | karsten | SpyderMan: That's only supported on stonewashed screens. |
| 22:14.29 | Crell | hm. Why is the log mentioning squirrelmail? I've not used squirrelmail since yesterday. |
| 22:14.30 | Stevie | stonewashed? |
| 22:14.35 | Crell | Mayhaps the config is getting in the way. |
| 22:14.35 | karsten | Crell: Suggest again you review broser logs. |
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| 22:14.44 | karsten | Stevie: Oh wait, that's blue jeans, nevermind. |
| 22:14.48 | Crell | Looking at apache log now. |
| 22:14.53 | Stevie | oh |
| 22:14.58 | Stevie | I was like wtf |
| 22:15.02 | SpyderMan | strider: example when I choose the logout option - there's a kinda fade to grey in the background |
| 22:15.10 | karsten | Crell: tail -40f /var/log/apache/access.log while attempting to load page. |
| 22:15.14 | karsten | Stevie: Good. |
| 22:15.17 | karsten | Stevie: ... it worked ;-) |
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| 22:15.44 | SpyderMan | karsten: stonewashing jeans is quicker than this effect :) |
| 22:16.11 | Crell | karsten: tail reports nothing, but browser gets a 404. |
| 22:16.25 | karsten | Crell: Is your webserver running? |
| 22:16.41 | Crell | Yep. I can get to squirrelmail just fine. |
| 22:16.42 | SpyderMan | i'm also willing to accept any better descriptions than fade effects, as at the very least it will help google better :) |
| 22:16.52 | karsten | Crell: Try the error.log then. |
| 22:17.23 | strider | SpyderMan: try ##gnome maybe |
| 22:17.39 | Crell | That's what was complaining about squirrelmail not existing. |
| 22:17.51 | SpyderMan | strider: k - will try that too |
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| 22:17.58 | Crell | hm. I'm thinking my squirrelmail config may be getting in the way. Let me try uninstalling it. |
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| 22:18.03 | Crell | Or at least disabling it. |
| 22:18.20 | karsten | Crell: Shouldn't unless you've got a syntax error or are clobbering paths. |
| 22:18.29 | Supaplex | !stab Crell's install of squirrelmail |
| 22:18.37 | Supaplex | haha |
| 22:18.40 | Crell | rofl |
| 22:19.06 | rem_ | anyone had this prob with evolution ?: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2005-November/msg00503.html |
| 22:19.07 | Crell | karsten: I recall having issues with squirrelmail's vhost setup when I installed it a while back. |
| 22:19.10 | rem_ | when trying to import certificat in evolution |
| 22:19.13 | rem_ | Enter the password for 'NSS User Private Key and Certificate Services' |
| 22:19.15 | rem_ | ?? |
| 22:19.20 | karsten | Crell: OK. Sounds like a bug. |
| 22:19.35 | Crell | Probably in my changes to it. :-) |
| 22:19.38 | MatBoy | Does someone know a Realtime Replication tool for data that can use blocks or something ? |
| 22:20.06 | elbixio | hi everybody. is there any way to limit apt-get's bandwidth use? |
| 22:20.28 | elbixio | i've found squid and iptables alternatives |
| 22:20.46 | elbixio | but they seem really difficult! |
| 22:21.01 | karsten | MatBoy: Possibly unison? |
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| 22:21.36 | MatBoy | karsten, unison ? can you explain what it is ? I'm now on DRBD |
| 22:21.53 | karsten | MatBoy: apt-cache show unison |
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| 22:22.22 | karsten | MatBoy: I haven't used it, it's a multi-filesystem networked sync tool, might suit your needs. |
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| 22:22.34 | MatBoy | mhhh.. have no debian-box available... but I will check it online with debian ! |
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| 22:22.45 | MatBoy | karsten, thanks !! |
| 22:22.51 | karsten | MatBoy: http://packages.debian.org/unison |
| 22:23.31 | MatBoy | karsten, looks nice ! |
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| 22:27.21 | we32bn | hello |
| 22:27.39 | we32bn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.42 | karsten | MatBoy: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ for project homepage. |
| 22:27.46 | Crell | w00t! |
| 22:27.56 | Crell | karsten: Yep, it was my squirrelmail config messing up the web server. |
| 22:28.01 | sandman | Is there a way to have networking automatically repair itself if it breaks? |
| 22:28.06 | we32bn | I know 4 drives of 36gb raid 10 are 72GB, what about 6 drives? |
| 22:28.18 | karsten | Crell: Cool. |
| 22:28.21 | karsten | we32bn: 50 |
| 22:28.23 | karsten | 5 |
| 22:28.28 | karsten | we32bn: Er. 50% |
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| 22:29.29 | karsten | we32bn: RAID 0 == 100% of native. RAID 1 == 50% of native. You're applying mirror to stripe. You lose half your capacity. |
| 22:29.38 | Supaplex | we32bn: raid10 is raid1 and raid0, so they're stripped and mirrored. the mirroring costs you 1/2 your storage, but adds a full layer of redundancy |
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| 22:30.25 | we32bn | Supaplex: why raid10 requires initially 4 drives? is there something catchy here? |
| 22:30.29 | karsten | Supaplex: ... but net reliablility is 1/3 of a native drive. You've effectively got three striped drives. |
| 22:30.36 | karsten | we32bn: You've been misinformed. |
| 22:31.20 | karsten | we32bn: RAID 10 can be applied to any even number of drives. |
| 22:31.20 | jazbo | So apparently the debian install floppies don't support the linux26 boot parameter. Do you think it will be easier to make my own floppies or upgrade the kernel after installation. I'm a little afraid of the kernel upgrade because I broke my system the one time I tried it... |
| 22:31.32 | we32bn | karsten: when I see it at dell, it requires minimum of 4 drives for raid 10 |
| 22:31.55 | karsten | we32bn: They're wrong. They want to sell you two additional drives, I guess. |
| 22:32.00 | Supaplex | we32bn: it's conceptually eaiser to use 4, each drive is striped against one, and mirrored to another |
| 22:32.26 | karsten | we32bn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks |
| 22:33.15 | karsten | we32bn: Dell's RAID config tool may not support another config, but it's possible. If you need their tool / their support, do what they say. |
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| 22:34.05 | we32bn | karsten: yes dell supports raid 10 in linux |
| 22:34.13 | Supaplex | we32bn: oh, and price their memory upgrades before you get too many of those :) I know someone that had to replace their controller. not all that cheap :-X |
| 22:34.38 | karsten | we32bn: That Wikipedia story looks quite good. |
| 22:34.55 | Supaplex | it stays cruncy in milk? |
| 22:35.15 | kookaburra | a little sog is good |
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| 22:35.30 | we32bn | actually linux knows raid hardware storage just as a single drive, nothing else |
| 22:36.21 | Supaplex | we32bn: that's ok. atleast /* is on raid. less fuss. |
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| 22:39.21 | unix_infidel | does evolution depend on gnome? |
| 22:39.27 | unix_infidel | on gnome-base anyways. |
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| 22:39.37 | resiak | unix_infidel: man apt-cache |
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| 22:45.01 | JRWR | how do i get midi working in ALSA |
| 22:45.05 | speedghost__ | hi |
| 22:45.10 | speedghost__ | help me |
| 22:45.19 | speedghost__ | nvidia driver |
| 22:45.27 | speedghost__ | problem |
| 22:46.02 | speedghost__ | how is instal nvidia driver |
| 22:46.13 | speedghost__ | i am use unstable depo |
| 22:46.28 | neuterspay | 333mHz Compaq Presario 1245 Laptop, 64mb of RAM, 2.2gb HDD; would Debian run alright on this computer for checking email and using office? |
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| 22:46.39 | JRWR | YWA |
| 22:46.41 | JRWR | ya |
| 22:46.49 | JRWR | im running a 333mhz ppc |
| 22:46.51 | barakuda | isn't nvidia driver included in kernel ? |
| 22:46.53 | JRWR | 233mhz |
| 22:47.03 | JRWR | running fne here |
| 22:47.10 | neuterspay | JRWR: Thanks a lot, man ~ would it look alright with a MAC OS X theme? I mean, could it handle that? |
| 22:47.13 | zinx | barakuda: depends on which nvidia driver you're talking about |
| 22:47.15 | speedghost__ | 2.6.k-7 |
| 22:47.21 | JRWR | ya |
| 22:47.32 | bucky | barakuda: sure the software accel one.. nv |
| 22:47.33 | neuterspay | Badass. |
| 22:47.36 | neuterspay | Thanks JRWR. |
| 22:47.38 | JRWR | i can play UT99 on my computer using WINe |
| 22:47.51 | zinx | ... isn't there a linux ut99? o_O |
| 22:47.54 | speedghost__ | 2.6.15-1-k7 |
| 22:47.55 | bucky | barakuda: in Xfree actually |
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| 22:48.20 | speedghost__ | how is nvidia driver install |
| 22:48.43 | bucky | !tell speedghost__ about nvidia |
| 22:48.50 | speedghost__ | :) |
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| 22:49.12 | barakuda | I always installed kompiling the kernel :) |
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| 22:49.44 | JRWR | !tell about enter |
| 22:50.17 | JRWR | !tell me bout midi |
| 22:50.23 | JRWR | !tell me bout mid |
| 22:50.29 | JRWR | !tell me bout debian |
| 22:50.36 | beardy | !selftell |
| 22:50.36 | dpkg | Please do not use the bot's !tell feature on #debian to see factoids for yourself (!tell me about something). Doing so could be considered spam. Instead, send a private message to the bot (dpkg) containing the factoid you want to read. For example, instead of "!tell me about foo", use "/msg dpkg foo". |
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| 22:52.00 | speedghost__ | kernel fln indrimek gerekmiyormu |
| 22:52.38 | beardy | !tr |
| 22:52.38 | dpkg | it has been said that tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
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| 22:54.23 | Jimz | Are there any people around who use vnc4server, and is there a way to act like the windows version (i.e. using the current screen that the monitor attatched to the box is displaying)? |
| 22:54.59 | susperia | if someone could please give me some advice.... remote ssh'ing into my server, the delay between login: prompt and password prompt is like 5 seconds. quite annoying. |
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| 22:56.13 | beardy | Jimz: Use another vncserver, that does what you want, it exists, perhaps several, but I don't remember their names. 'apt-cache search vnc' |
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| 22:57.16 | Hessophanes | susperia: Run the client in verbose mode... maybe that'll reveal a clue. |
| 22:57.18 | neuterspay | It looks like when my computer boots, it goes to a GDM greeting and login screen ~ I think I've uninstalled GDM; don't use it, anyway. How can I get the KDE greeting going? Would installing a theme be enough to get it to work? I currently don't worry about it because I only login after each boot which are weeks apart. |
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| 22:58.00 | beardy | susperia: Is the machine heavily loaded, or has very little ram, so it has to swap before it can give you your shell? What does 'uptime' say, about the load? |
| 22:58.50 | erhanr | neuterspay: did you install kdm? |
| 22:59.12 | Kerr | err, my pc was just down because of a brownout; when it started my eggdrop's conf files were overwritten with raw irc logs, and fdisk -l now has no output.. what are the chances that trying to fix the errors on my /home drive will result in it's untimely death? |
| 22:59.44 | beardy | neuterspay: If it still runs, it's still installed. Uninstall (purge) it, and install KDM instead. And configure it to your liking in KDE's Control panel, or what the confiuration thing is called. |
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| 23:00.38 | susperia | beardy / Hessophanes thanks, i havent though about those things as culprits. i will investigate |
| 23:00.39 | digijohn | Hi everyone; anyone here managed to use a TI USB link cable under debian? I had it going before I reinstalled, but now I can't seem to get it to work. |
| 23:00.55 | susperia | although, ram is enough, loads are low, box is virtually idle |
| 23:00.57 | Kerr | neuterspay: try dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 23:00.59 | Kerr | :) |
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| 23:01.48 | beardy | susperia: Over what kind of network connection are you ssh:ing? And from what machine/client? |
| 23:02.09 | YogSothoth | In a bash script how can I test if a file does *not* exisis? I mean, the inverse of -a file |
| 23:02.14 | YogSothoth | *exists |
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| 23:03.37 | YogSothoth | found: [ ! -a file ] thanks anyway :) |
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| 23:03.58 | beardy | YogSothoth: By using ! (exclamation mark), before the test. |
| 23:04.07 | beardy | YogSothoth: Good. |
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| 23:04.14 | beardy | !absg YogSothoth |
| 23:04.14 | dpkg | YogSothoth: abs-guide is the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide to be found at http://www.tldp.org/guides.html#abs . It is also packaged, 'apt-get install abs-guide'. |
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| 23:07.16 | susperia | beardy sorry for my tardy replies. its over LAN connection. happens from putty as well as ssh from other debian machines |
| 23:07.18 | konfuzed | really what does bash do that tcsh doesnt?? |
| 23:07.24 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: because I'm using a patch to it that does that |
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| 23:08.17 | bsims | I simply want to change the size of the font used in the windows menus like File Edit etc How can I do this without pain |
| 23:08.51 | beardy | bsims: Ask #windows , this is #debian. |
| 23:09.11 | bsims | in wine? |
| 23:09.12 | konfuzed | bsims, did you mean x-windows |
| 23:09.28 | bsims | sorry for the File Edit etc menus under wine |
| 23:09.33 | konfuzed | change the font in gnome or kde |
| 23:09.35 | beardy | !xwindows |
| 23:09.35 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, xwindows is NOT the name of it. It's simply called X, X11, The X Window System, X11R6, etc. Do a "man X" for more. < Zxcvb> X + KDE/Gnome + Codeweavers Wine == X-windows, or ask me about x windows trap |
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| 23:09.51 | bsims | #wineHQ isn't being helpful <g> |
| 23:09.57 | susperia | beardythanks, i was gonna say the same :P |
| 23:10.40 | bsims | konfuzed: it's not honoring the kde font size is the problem |
| 23:10.41 | konfuzed | hmmmm ive called it x-windows for 20 years and no one has complained |
| 23:10.56 | unlearn | http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/56196/index.html |
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| 23:11.38 | konfuzed | kde or your stuff installed with wine |
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| 23:13.05 | curt | I can't seem to get my static ip's set up properly. I have tried a bunch of different ways and I am not sure what I am doing wrong. http://channels.debian.net/paste/2164 |
| 23:13.22 | konfuzed | microsoft doesnt even have a product called windows |
| 23:13.33 | konfuzed | sure they registered a trademark on the word |
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| 23:14.11 | beardy | !interfaces |
| 23:14.11 | dpkg | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also "dhcp client". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see "man resolv.conf" for DNS or ask me about "static route" |
| 23:14.14 | beardy | curt: ^^^ |
| 23:14.18 | goldenaura | hi there. i am trying to use apt to install a new linux-image-2.6-k7, in the debina.org site it say it it 2.6.15-8-k7 but in apt it appears to be 2.6.15-1-k7, is it the same? |
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| 23:14.38 | konfuzed | but they have DOS,Windows95,windows98,windowsME,WinNT, Win2000,WinXP, and some crap called just Vista. |
| 23:14.49 | konfuzed | microsoft doesnt even want to use windows anymore |
| 23:15.23 | Goat25 | i wonder if anyone is still using xenix |
| 23:15.25 | preso | join #sevilla |
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| 23:17.25 | curt | beardy, I am going to eat dinner, i'll ask again in a bit but I have read everything I can find on interaces, docs, mans, internet I just can't get right... |
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| 23:18.35 | pingouin | i have troubles to 'erase' (rewrite on) dvd+RW with growisofs, the burner do it, but it's not readable after any help/clue on it ? |
| 23:18.39 | curt | beardy, I really don't understand why dhcp conect to what is supposed to be my gateway and when I set them up as aliases the Bcast and Mask id different and I can't connect to 192.168.0.1 (modem)) |
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| 23:19.05 | pollywog | I upgraded sarge to testing and I suffered only some inconvenience |
| 23:19.15 | pollywog | like fuse not working anymore |
| 23:19.23 | curt | beardy, Like I said my wife is calling for dinner, I'll be back in a bit... |
| 23:19.29 | Anthro | I have three Debian boxes, all running the same version of openssh-server (4.2p1-7) and all with identical /etc/ssh/sshd_config files. Let's call them A, B, and C. X11 forwarding works when logging in to A or C, but not to B. I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication." Any ideas? |
| 23:19.46 | pollywog | check iptables? |
| 23:19.56 | pollywog | and enable forwarding in ssh |
| 23:20.17 | Anthro | pollywog: Forwarding is enabled. As I said, they have identical sshd_config files. |
| 23:20.29 | Anthro | pollywog: How do I check iptables? |
| 23:20.35 | Stevie | Anthro: ssh is not rejecting your x11 connection |
| 23:20.39 | Stevie | Anthro: The X server is |
| 23:20.54 | dondelelcaro | w/in 27 |
| 23:21.02 | Stevie | l/ose 27 |
| 23:21.27 | pollywog | iptables -L but I think Stevie is right |
| 23:21.30 | Stevie | d/raw 27 |
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| 23:21.48 | Anthro | Stevie: Not exactly. The sshd process invents an MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE for the forwarded connection's use. It is getting rejected by the sshd, not by the X server. |
| 23:21.53 | azeem | Stevie: it was only funny the first time :) |
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| 23:22.04 | Stevie | Anthro: What evidence do you have to support that theory? |
| 23:22.23 | Stevie | azeem: You guys just aren't giving me enough material tonight |
| 23:22.30 | pollywog | Anthro did you check ssh config for the client that refused connection? |
| 23:22.49 | pollywog | ssh_config not sshd_config |
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| 23:23.05 | Stevie | pollywog: He must be using the same client for all three servers. If he wasn't, he would have mentioned that |
| 23:23.11 | pollywog | k |
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| 23:23.54 | Anthro | Stevie: Correct. I have used the client on each of A, B, and C to connect to A, B, and C. A and C always work, B does not. |
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| 23:24.35 | pollywog | the ssh package seems to be 3 packages in testing |
| 23:24.47 | pollywog | I have not had a chance to find out why |
| 23:24.52 | pollywog | anyone know? |
| 23:25.04 | Anthro | pollywog: openssh-server and openssh-client. I don't know about a third. It allows you to install only a client or only a server. |
| 23:25.20 | pollywog | oh maybe I need to remove ssh then |
| 23:26.15 | Anthro | pollywog: Actually, I take that back. openssh-server depends on openssh-client. So you can install just the client, or the server and the client together. |
| 23:26.38 | pollywog | Anthro try your connection with verbose anabled and see what it says |
| 23:27.04 | Anthro | pollywog: I have. Would you like to see it on #flood? |
| 23:27.11 | pollywog | yes |
| 23:27.15 | Anthro | pollywog: I was unable to gain any insight from it. |
| 23:27.22 | Anthro | pollywog: How many -v's do you want? |
| 23:27.22 | pollywog | oic |
| 23:27.29 | pollywog | just one v |
| 23:27.34 | Anthro | pollywog: One moment... |
| 23:28.12 | VulpesFoxnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.19 | pollywog | I assume A and B and C are all on the same side of your network |
| 23:28.30 | pollywog | so the router's port forwarding is not to blame |
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| 23:28.31 | markybob | pollywog, sailor? |
| 23:28.38 | pollywog | no |
| 23:28.42 | pollywog | not a sailor |
| 23:28.59 | pollywog | you a shellback? |
| 23:29.04 | markybob | pollywog, yes |
| 23:29.39 | pollywog | someone asked me the same question once and then told me about the term applied to sailors |
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| 23:30.17 | Anthro | pollywog: Yes, all on the NAT'd 192.168.1.* subnet |
| 23:30.19 | Anthro | pollywog: Only hubs between them, no routers and no wireless. |
| 23:30.21 | Anthro | pollywog: I pasted to #flood, BTW. |
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| 23:30.36 | pollywog | it looks like authentication succeeded |
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| 23:31.10 | Labatt14 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:31.21 | VulpesFoxnik | I have a problem! My system completely freezes durring boot. It does so when setting up the network card. I have to press ctrl+c just to get in |
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| 23:31.56 | Anthro | pollywog: Ah, crap, it got cut off. There are more lines. Hang on. I'll be repeating the last broken line. |
| 23:32.04 | beardy | VulpesFoxnik: Then it doesn't freeze. |
| 23:32.07 | VulpesFoxnik | something about /etc/Network/options being deprciated |
| 23:32.07 | pollywog | k |
| 23:32.11 | hjubal | bye |
| 23:32.22 | coolcubix | hi, i have just installed debian etch (beta2) and i experience problems with x and my keyboard |
| 23:32.30 | engla | I have a packaging problem. "fakeroot debian/rules binary" works, debuild -us -uc -rfakeroot doesn't configure, doesn't find the gtk python module.. |
| 23:32.34 | VulpesFoxnik | beardy: Then it just sits there for over 5 hours |
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| 23:32.35 | pollywog | I get that too since upgrading to testing, that options is deprecated |
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| 23:33.00 | Anthro | pollywog: There we go. The remaining lines are pasted now. |
| 23:33.03 | pollywog | k |
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| 23:33.09 | beardy | VulpesFoxnik: What I mean is that if you can bypass it with the keyboard, it's not frozen. |
| 23:33.35 | VulpesFoxnik | beardy: Alsmost as it's stuck in an infite loop |
| 23:33.54 | markybob | VulpesFoxnik, get rid of the file. problem solved. yay |
| 23:34.08 | beardy | VulpesFoxnik: Are you sure your /etc/network/interfaces is correctly configured for your situation? |
| 23:34.10 | VulpesFoxnik | markw_: You sure that will work? |
| 23:34.20 | markybob | VulpesFoxnik, yes. read the bts http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=322548 |
| 23:34.42 | VulpesFoxnik | I did a google search and nothing came up so no I haven't checked the bugs |
| 23:34.48 | pollywog | Anthro do you have stricthostchecking enabled? |
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| 23:34.59 | VulpesFoxnik | And for some odd reason it thinks I have 2 network cards listed |
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| 23:35.09 | pollywog | maybe try with it disabled |
| 23:35.23 | VulpesFoxnik | I looked in Hal and it seems to think my firewire is a networking device |
| 23:35.34 | infinity1 | how do you get reiser4 into a recent debian kernel? the patch package is very old! |
| 23:35.47 | Anthro | pollywog: Where would it be enabled? Remember, identical sshd_config files across the three machines. |
| 23:35.54 | cparker | What's up with Apache2's ErrorDocument handling in Debian? |
| 23:35.57 | Jimz | is there a command that gives (detailed) information about connected devices that are _not_ mounted? |
| 23:36.03 | pollywog | in the user's config |
| 23:36.11 | pollywog | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.17 | Anthro | pollywog: checking... |
| 23:36.54 | Anthro | pollywog: It is set to no on all three machines. |
| 23:36.59 | pollywog | hmm |
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| 23:38.36 | cparker | I Googled and saw that Debian's Apache2 had a bug where ErrorDocuments could only be in the DocumentRoot. Is this still the case? It seems so. |
| 23:38.52 | markybob | cparker, why dont you check the bts? |
| 23:39.09 | cparker | markybob: Sorry, bts? What's bts? |
| 23:39.13 | markybob | !bts |
| 23:39.13 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 23:39.17 | Anthro | Jimz: If it's a USB device, usbview may be helpful. |
| 23:40.24 | pollywog | Anthro: just a thought but did you check hosts.deny on the problem machine? |
| 23:40.36 | Anthro | pollywog: checking... |
| 23:43.05 | Anthro | pollywog: Well, it did have ALL: PARANOID on the problem machine, and not on the other two, but nothing has changed now that I've commented it out and restarted the sshd. |
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| 23:44.26 | cparker | I found the bug, but the last activity was last April. |
| 23:44.34 | cocozz | Where do I have to set up the CFLAGS ? |
| 23:45.34 | markybob | cparker, what's the bug number? |
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| 23:45.40 | Stevie | export CFLAGS=foo |
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| 23:46.22 | cparker | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=256510 |
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| 23:48.10 | cparker | I've created a dir called "errordocs" underneath my DocumentRoot. |
| 23:48.31 | markybob | cparker, is this in upstream as well? you might wanna post a comment on the bug asking for an update. |
| 23:48.42 | cparker | Then in .htaccess I've specified ErrorDocument 404 /errordocs/404.html |
| 23:48.43 | cparker | hmmm |
| 23:48.47 | Jimz | Anthro: I was just thinking of all the current attached IDE devices and such, all the commands ive tried just show mounted devices |
| 23:48.48 | cparker | I will do that. |
| 23:48.50 | cparker | Thank you. |
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| 23:48.55 | beardy | cocozz: And to set it everytime you login, instead of only now, add it to your ~/.bashrc, and/or ~/.bash_profile, depending on it you include ~/.bashrc if it exists, in ~/.bash_profile. |
| 23:49.11 | cocozz | yes yes thats what I did |
| 23:49.19 | cocozz | but I still getting the same problem :( |
| 23:49.25 | Anthro | Jimz: Actually, the /proc filesystem should be able to give you lots of information. I think it's /proc/bus/ide |
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| 23:49.36 | cocozz | checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 23:49.54 | Nowak | apt-get install gcc :P |
| 23:50.04 | cocozz | done hehe |
| 23:50.15 | digijohn | I think I got that error when I didn't have some glibc stuff installed, cocozz. |
| 23:50.19 | digijohn | I can't remember too well |
| 23:50.24 | loggygreg | cocozz: bad CFLAGS probably |
| 23:50.31 | erhanr | maybe header missing |
| 23:50.37 | cocozz | I did an export CFLAGS="" |
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| 23:50.55 | Anthro | !b-e |
| 23:50.55 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 23:50.57 | pollywog | Anthro: did you check the ownership of the .Xauthority file? |
| 23:51.06 | Anthro | pollywog: checking... |
| 23:51.31 | cocozz | argg I ALWAYS forget that package ! |
| 23:51.32 | pollywog | because in the past, it has changed on me |
| 23:51.33 | cocozz | thanks dpkg |
| 23:51.33 | dpkg | sure thing, cocozz |
| 23:51.44 | cocozz | :P |
| 23:52.19 | Anthro | pollywog: Ownership is the account in question, permissions are 0600. |
| 23:52.28 | Anthro | pollywog: Same as on the other machines. |
| 23:52.33 | pollywog | k |
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| 23:52.52 | Anthro | pollywog: Note that this seems to apply to all destination accounts on the machine. |
| 23:53.10 | Anthro | pollywog: No, I take that back! |
| 23:53.26 | Anthro | pollywog: I found a user account for which it works. Now I'm really confused. |
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| 23:53.44 | Zensur | hi |
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| 23:54.01 | erhanr | hi there |
| 23:54.23 | Anthro | pollywog: It fails with my normal account, and it fails with the root account, but it works with my wife's account. |
| 23:54.24 | pollywog | Anthro: I am looking in a SSH book and it says there can be problems with X forwarding using shared accounts |
| 23:54.25 | Zensur | ive got some problem with my sound since i did a dist-upgrade today |
| 23:54.35 | Anthro | pollywog: "Shared"? |
| 23:54.37 | Zensur | its kind of "stumbling" |
| 23:54.50 | pollywog | Anthro: yes it might be the problem you are having |
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| 23:55.09 | pollywog | when more than one admin uses the root account |
| 23:55.25 | VulpesFoxnik | Ok that didn't fix it, but it did get rid of the warning :\ |
| 23:55.28 | Zensur | what should i check first ? alsa ? arts ? |
| 23:55.38 | pollywog | I wish this were online someplace, it's a long explanation in the book |
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| 23:55.52 | Anthro | pollywog: Gah. Removing the .Xauthority file fixes things. I'm an idiot. I should have tried that earlier. |
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| 23:56.12 | pollywog | Antho: that has worked for me too |
| 23:56.51 | pollywog | often after the ownership of >Xauthority was changed by something |
| 23:56.58 | erhanr | did you try configure it with alsaconf Zensur ? |
| 23:57.45 | Zensur | alsaconf doesnt find my soundcard though sound output already works |
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| 23:58.02 | Zensur | its just kind of "stumbling" since my dist-upgrade |
| 23:59.42 | Anthro | pollywog: As it turns out, the problem is that the .Xauthority had some kind of corrupted entry. Not corrupted enough to make xauth fall over, but corrupted enough to confuse sshd. Bizarre. |
