| 00:00.03 | bucky | MrNaz: what does nforce4 have to do with gnome? |
| 00:00.04 | konfuzed | wkerhhwk |
| 00:00.04 | hundile | hey duys! |
| 00:00.13 | hundile | guys |
| 00:00.17 | VulpesFoxnik | Does Debian Support biological chipsets? |
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| 00:00.25 | konfuzed | motherboard chipset not the video card |
| 00:00.27 | MrNaz | bucky nforce has built in graphics |
| 00:00.27 | ion_bidon | MrNaz: no problem :) |
| 00:00.37 | asop | does the network cable need to be plugged in for the etherconf utility to be able to detect the nic |
| 00:00.37 | konfuzed | not nescesarily |
| 00:00.40 | asop | ?? |
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| 00:01.01 | jlamr | How do I Add Perl to the PATH environment variable?? |
| 00:01.14 | MrNaz | konfuzed if you want to use the nforce graphics i believe you *can* get it working in VGA mode during the install |
| 00:01.20 | jetscreamer | !depends linux-image-2.6-k7 |
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| 00:01.25 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6-k7: depends on linux-image-2.6.16-1-k7 (= 2.6.16-2) |
| 00:01.29 | jetscreamer | pay me |
| 00:01.29 | MrNaz | although i have never done it with nforce4 only nforce pro 2200 |
| 00:01.37 | konfuzed | nforce 430/410 chipset boards also have a gforce vid card |
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| 00:01.54 | lobomufas | hi |
| 00:02.14 | hundile | i have two NICs in my pc but ifconfig shows only one... what do i have to do? |
| 00:02.34 | ion_bidon | jetscreamer: what stable kernel would you suggest to install ? (if I can) |
| 00:02.43 | konfuzed | but the nForce based board im using here has no on board graphics |
| 00:02.45 | bucky | hundile: load the driver for the other one.. do they use the same driver? |
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| 00:03.02 | jetscreamer | ion_bidon: you have the latest, it's just the package you were referring to is a metapackage |
| 00:03.09 | jetscreamer | you're running sid? |
| 00:03.10 | hundile | bucky: i dont know im newbe |
| 00:03.18 | jetscreamer | 2.6.16 is like different |
| 00:03.23 | nautiazn85 | I just recently installed debian... no extra packages except for the base system. How do I use apt-get to install xorg-x11? |
| 00:03.26 | jetscreamer | greatly different from .15 |
| 00:03.30 | asop | does the network cable need to be plugged in for the etherconf utility to be able to detect the NIC? |
| 00:03.41 | ion_bidon | jetscreamer: the problem is that I don't think the latest is very stable |
| 00:03.49 | jetscreamer | ion_bidon: i'm back to using a .15 instead of a .16 |
| 00:03.51 | jetscreamer | in sid |
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| 00:03.59 | bucky | asop: no but it needs to be plugged in to detect dhcp |
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| 00:04.04 | ion_bidon | jetscreamer: oh I see you changed to .15 ? |
| 00:04.06 | jetscreamer | ion_bidon: you should still have that installed |
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| 00:04.14 | bucky | asop: is there a reason you're afraid to plug it in? |
| 00:04.31 | hundile | bucky: how cani look that? |
| 00:04.49 | jetscreamer | ion_bidon: i compiled a 2.6.16 today and saw some of the differences but haven't looked very much so yeah i'm back on a .15 atm (nvidia binary doesn't like .16) |
| 00:04.53 | bucky | hundile: lspci and see what nic cards you have installed |
| 00:04.57 | asop | bucky: im afraid of the fbi |
| 00:05.04 | jetscreamer | !info fbi |
| 00:05.04 | ion_bidon | jetscreamer: I see :) |
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| 00:05.08 | asop | and spiders |
| 00:05.12 | dpkg | fbi: (Linux frame buffer image viewer), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.01-1.4 (sid), Packaged size: 52 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
| 00:05.12 | bucky | asop: put down the crack pipe |
| 00:05.19 | daeos | anyone ever played with FreeNX ? |
| 00:05.20 | asop | *tokes* |
| 00:05.23 | jdolan | hi. i've installed ubuntu on my gf's laptop. it's very nice. however, her wireless card requires ndiswrapper, and also a 'iwconfig commit' after setting essid and key. is there a way to incorporate the commit call into /etc/network/interfaces so that this will be done automatically? |
| 00:05.23 | daeos | or tried to configure it? |
| 00:05.29 | Oryn | jetscreamer: ati doesn't like them ether |
| 00:05.30 | daeos | !ubuntu |
| 00:05.30 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 00:05.37 | asop | I like ether |
| 00:05.37 | bucky | jdolan: try #ubuntu |
| 00:05.53 | hundile | bucky: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5319sh76.html |
| 00:06.02 | jdolan | bucky, i will. i was asking here because /etc/network/interfaces is a debian standard. |
| 00:06.04 | jetscreamer | jdolan: you seem intelligent. shame about the u thing though :) |
| 00:06.05 | Oryn | jdolan: what card? |
| 00:06.11 | daeos | jdolan: check out the ubuntu irc chat, even if they are quiet they will have your answers |
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| 00:06.24 | nautiazn85 | How do I change repositories using Debian? |
| 00:06.27 | bucky | jdolan: ubuntu is a different distro |
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| 00:06.38 | jetscreamer | !info apt-spy |
| 00:06.38 | jdolan | jetscreamer, i run crux ;) Oryn, dell something or other, probably a rebranded broadcom. |
| 00:06.38 | Oryn | jdolan: if its a broadcom theres now an opensource driver for it |
| 00:06.40 | dpkg | apt-spy: (writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.1-14 (sid), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
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| 00:06.51 | asop | bucky: lspci doesn't even ackwnoledge my NIC's existence (nForce 4) even though the drivers said it installed and the version of the kernel I have supposedly supports it |
| 00:06.56 | jetscreamer | !apt-spy |
| 00:06.57 | dpkg | hmm... apt-spy is a secret! Shh!, or like 'mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' :: apt-get install apt-spy; apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] :: when this finishes it will automatically write to your sources.list so if you have other mirrors there you'll have to "cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak" and fix your sources.list |
| 00:07.11 | jdolan | Oryn, i didnt know that. i'll poke around. |
| 00:07.23 | Andy298 | im after a couple of efficient backup routines. One for a weekly system backup, one for a daily data back up (and then weekly archive of backups). |
| 00:07.35 | hundile | bucky: |
| 00:07.35 | hundile | 0000:00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) |
| 00:07.35 | hundile | 0000:00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) |
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| 00:07.41 | jdolan | bucky, i'm well aware that ubuntu != debian :) as i said, the file in question is a debian standard. but thanks. i'll try there too. |
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| 00:08.25 | bucky | jdolan: every day we have 20 different stupid people try to tell us we should support ubuntu.. we don't |
| 00:08.33 | Oryn | jdolan: check out http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ |
| 00:08.57 | bucky | hundile: try to modprobe 8139too |
| 00:08.59 | Shadda | muahaha |
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| 00:09.04 | Shadda | finally got ffmpeg workin right |
| 00:09.07 | jdolan | bucky, i'm a maintainer for crux linux. i understand the two distros are different, and i am not stupid. |
| 00:09.23 | bucky | jdolan: good.. /j #ubuntu |
| 00:09.45 | hundile | bucky: do i have to restart then? |
| 00:09.49 | bucky | jdolan: is mandriva the same as redhat because is was a fork? |
| 00:09.57 | jetscreamer | !anal |
| 00:09.57 | dpkg | methinks anal is a kind of sex, which is very nice for men who love other men.!, or another way to say anal retentive |
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| 00:10.05 | bucky | hundile: no |
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| 00:10.25 | bucky | hundile: do what i told you and then ifconfig and see if they are both there |
| 00:10.48 | hundile | bucky: ifconfig shows only eth0 and lo |
| 00:10.55 | Shadda | <bucky> jdolan: is mandriva the same as redhat because is was a fork? <-- both place #1 on my crap distro list, so, yeah :) |
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| 00:11.49 | nautiazn85 | How do I change repositories in Debian? Also if I change repositories... what's a good repository for Desktop users? |
| 00:11.50 | bucky | Shadda: i didn't have an opinion about ubuntu until we got all these geniuses in here telling us we should answer their ubuntu questions |
| 00:12.00 | Eulex | !mirrors |
| 00:12.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 00:12.06 | Eulex | nautiazn85, ^^ |
| 00:12.12 | jetscreamer | !tell nautiazn85 -about apt-spy |
| 00:12.25 | Shadda | bucky, I didn't have one til I kept hearing em go, "oh, you gotta try it. Its so much better than debian. it...it has...um...defaults! yes! defaults!" |
| 00:12.26 | bucky | this guy's a "crux developer" and he doesn't know how to set up wireless |
| 00:12.26 | jetscreamer | !tell nautiazn85 -about marillat |
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| 00:12.36 | jdolan | bucky, are you actually here to support anyone, or just to assume you're smarter than people and condescend? |
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| 00:12.53 | Shadda | jdolan, no, that's what *I* do. |
| 00:12.58 | jdolan | ;) |
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| 00:13.13 | useruser | if I run md5sum < /dev/cdrom, should I get the same checksum as the iso I burned from? |
| 00:13.22 | bucky | jdolan: if you weren't the center of the universe today you would see that i have two people that i'm trying to answer questions for in spite of your stupidity |
| 00:13.39 | jdolan | bucky, i do not know the syntax of debian's /etc/network/interfaces script. i understand wireless adequately, in case that was not obvious from my question. |
| 00:13.41 | jetscreamer | bucky: jesus dude pms? |
| 00:14.05 | jdolan | jetscreamer, it's fine, i have a /ignore :) |
| 00:14.08 | bucky | jdolan: did you look at any docs on the ubuntu site? they have tons |
| 00:14.16 | dannym | Hmm... what to do to enable php5 in apache? |
| 00:14.22 | nautiazn85 | for a desktop user, should I use unstable or testing? |
| 00:14.23 | Shadda | a2enmod |
| 00:14.26 | jetscreamer | it irritates me buckyboy |
| 00:14.26 | Shadda | php5 |
| 00:14.27 | Shadda | done. |
| 00:14.35 | jetscreamer | please stop |
| 00:14.55 | sudo-kill_MsWin | start /opt/apache/php/start php 5 |
| 00:15.14 | bucky | jetscreamer: tell jdolan to stop |
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| 00:15.26 | hundile | bucky: what shall i do tehn? |
| 00:15.28 | sudo-kill_MsWin | Shadda = have youtry XAMMP |
| 00:15.30 | dannym | Shadda: thanks :) |
| 00:15.32 | jetscreamer | sure... jdolan please stop saying ok. |
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| 00:15.42 | bucky | hundile: you need another config.. one sec |
| 00:15.46 | dannym | Shadda: gives an error though: "This module does not exist!" |
| 00:15.57 | Shadda | dannym, did you install php5? |
| 00:16.02 | Shadda | (via apt-get) |
| 00:16.38 | jetscreamer | jdolan: i like netcardconfig, google it |
| 00:16.43 | dannym | Shadda: libapache2-mod-php5, yes |
| 00:16.52 | Shadda | php5 itself |
| 00:17.04 | jdolan | jetscreamer, i will. |
| 00:17.08 | jetscreamer | it's not in debian |
| 00:17.23 | jdolan | how about that "universe" repo? |
| 00:17.34 | jdolan | nm, that's prolly ubuntu specific. |
| 00:18.02 | dannym | Shadda: ok, installed the "php5" meta package now |
| 00:18.17 | dannym | Shadda: same problem though |
| 00:18.21 | bucky | hundile: i think you need to put in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases 'alias eth0 8139too' and 'alias eth1 8139too' without the quotes and then rmmod 8139too and then insmod -a |
| 00:18.27 | jetscreamer | you should probably be in #ubuntu though hard to get ubotu to /msg you if you're not there... |
| 00:18.28 | Shadda | dannym, tbh, I reccomend either compiling php5 yourself, or grabbing 5.1 from backports or the dexter repo |
| 00:18.35 | Shadda | or if you're running sid, testing |
| 00:18.54 | dannym | Shadda: ok :) |
| 00:18.57 | jetscreamer | ah nm you /parted |
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| 00:20.18 | jdolan | lmao, gf is trying to make sushi, she bought a papaya instead of an avacado.... ah well. |
| 00:21.10 | pawdro | how to install glade3 from cvs ? |
| 00:21.20 | adam_e | Does anyone know why when I go to install gnome it want's to remove hotplug? |
| 00:21.39 | nautiazn85 | When using apt-spy, should I use UNSTABLE or TESTING on a desktop system? |
| 00:21.58 | jetscreamer | nautiazn85: what do you use |
| 00:22.34 | pawdro | is formula: vs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.gnome.org:/glade3 login correct? |
| 00:22.43 | pawdro | why not? |
| 00:23.06 | nautiazn85 | jetscreamer: not using anything right now... I just recently installed debian... I was a former gentoo user |
| 00:23.19 | nautiazn85 | i want new packages... but I want my system to be pretty stable |
| 00:23.27 | pawdro | cvs should be on the beggining |
| 00:23.33 | jetscreamer | nautiazn85: but you have either stable testing or unstable installed/running, atm... just tell it the same that you use. |
| 00:23.48 | jetscreamer | if i was to say i would say etch for a desktop but i won't say |
| 00:24.10 | nautiazn85 | jetscreamer: I don't even have apt-spy installed yet... i haven't selected either one |
| 00:24.17 | nautiazn85 | jetscreamer: was about to install it in a minute |
| 00:24.43 | jetscreamer | etch = testing, atm |
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| 00:25.12 | jetscreamer | but if you have it say testing it won't follow etch into stable when it finally goes there |
| 00:25.34 | jetscreamer | in a year or 1`2 |
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| 00:28.07 | nautiazn85 | jetscreamer: wait... what does apt-spy do? Does it simply select the fastest mirror? |
| 00:28.13 | nautiazn85 | jetscreamer: does it have any other purpose? |
| 00:28.23 | jetscreamer | not afaik |
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| 00:28.32 | jetscreamer | writes your sources.list |
| 00:29.10 | nautiazn85 | jetscreamer: how do you set your system to use testing/unstable? |
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| 00:29.26 | jetscreamer | i just edit /etc/apt/sources.lsit |
| 00:29.31 | jetscreamer | err list |
| 00:29.36 | jetscreamer | i just edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 00:30.11 | nautiazn85 | and that's all you have to do? |
| 00:30.16 | nautiazn85 | sorry I'm new... |
| 00:30.20 | jetscreamer | then apt-get update |
| 00:30.20 | nautiazn85 | and there's not that much documentation |
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| 00:30.50 | jetscreamer | !sarge->etch |
| 00:30.57 | nautiazn85 | so edit /etc/apt-sources.list, run apt-get update... and then apt-get is running as testing/unstable? |
| 00:31.05 | jetscreamer | !woody->sarge |
| 00:31.29 | jetscreamer | well then you would want to apt-get dist-upgrade after you apt-get updated |
| 00:31.38 | jetscreamer | but yeah |
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| 00:31.45 | jetscreamer | !upgrade |
| 00:31.45 | dpkg | it has been said that upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with apt-get. Do an apt-get update first, and then an apt-get upgrade. ask me about 'security' |
| 00:32.01 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 00:32.05 | nautiazn85 | jetscreamer: sweet thanks... and I know this is a weird question... but between unstable/testing... which is more "stable" |
| 00:32.12 | nautiazn85 | is "testing" the in between stage? |
| 00:32.24 | MrNaz | nautiazn85 testing |
| 00:32.31 | nautiazn85 | okay cool |
| 00:32.35 | nautiazn85 | sorry my last question |
| 00:32.38 | nautiazn85 | how do i install xorg-x11? |
| 00:32.46 | nautiazn85 | which package do i install? |
| 00:32.50 | sudo-kill_MsWin | Morgantown, WV, March 21, 2006: MEPIS founder Warren Woodford has announced a test release of SimplyMEPIS 6.0, incorporating software from the Ubuntu Dapper package pools. This is the first version of SimplyMEPIS with an Ubuntu base |
| 00:33.09 | sudo-kill_MsWin | MEPIS=DEBIAN BASED |
| 00:33.16 | jetscreamer | !woody->etch |
| 00:33.21 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 00:33.28 | jetscreamer | !xorg |
| 00:33.28 | dpkg | hmm... xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.0. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg |
| 00:33.35 | jetscreamer | !get xorg |
| 00:33.35 | dpkg | X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
| 00:34.00 | jetscreamer | just go etch it seems |
| 00:34.22 | nautiazn85 | so apt-get install etch? |
| 00:34.26 | nautiazn85 | sorry im confused |
| 00:34.27 | nautiazn85 | thanks for the help |
| 00:34.29 | nautiazn85 | i appreciate it |
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| 00:34.46 | Kelsey23 | Hey |
| 00:34.53 | Kelsey23 | what is that path to sendmails config |
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| 00:36.07 | jetscreamer | nautiazn85: no edit /etc/apt/sources.list , change stable or sarge to etch or testing (your choice) then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 00:36.43 | jetscreamer | if you have x-windows installed upgrade to xorg seems to be automagical |
| 00:36.54 | jetscreamer | if you don't, apt-get install x-window-system |
| 00:37.20 | jetscreamer | add gnome or kde or whatever... but there are smaller metapackages to get if you don't want big bloat |
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| 00:37.46 | daeos | anyone ever configured nxserver before? (FreeNX) |
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| 00:37.52 | nautiazn85 | jetscreamer thanks a ton |
| 00:37.53 | daeos | need help configureing it |
| 00:38.35 | JoCat | I need to install Debian, but I can't use my USB keyboard. Google doesn't help. |
| 00:38.38 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search thingtosearchfor is your friend |
| 00:38.59 | sudo-kill_MsWin | did some body uses MepisLinux here? |
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| 00:39.12 | tt89 | hey folks |
| 00:39.19 | tt89 | i need to get IDed |
| 00:39.24 | tt89 | what was the command for it |
| 00:39.42 | tt89 | in IRC |
| 00:39.46 | nautiazn85 | jetscreamer: thanks a lot... also how do I download the kernel-sources? |
| 00:39.57 | JoCat | apt-get install kernel-sources? |
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| 00:40.06 | loca|host | am trying to install php5.1-pgsql to my debian sarge based apache2 unsuccessfully : when trying to do 'apt-get install php5.1-pgsql' it downloads php5 and apache1 and install them, what's the matter ? |
| 00:40.15 | JoCat | apt-get install build-essentials, too. |
| 00:40.24 | jetscreamer | nautiazn85: apt-cache search kernel-source |
| 00:40.31 | jetscreamer | or linux-source i forget |
| 00:40.34 | JoCat | kernel |
| 00:40.49 | tt89 | whats the help command i wonder |
| 00:40.51 | nautiazn85 | jetscreamer: is that a debian kernel source or the vanilla sources? |
| 00:40.51 | jetscreamer | !find linux-source |
| 00:40.53 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'linux-source' (2): linux-source-2.6.15 ;; linux-source-2.6.16. |
| 00:40.56 | serfurj | anybody know why the "-iso-level 4" option to mkisofs would force filenames to lowercase? |
| 00:40.56 | jetscreamer | debian |
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| 00:41.11 | JoCat | apt-get install linux-source02.6.16 |
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| 00:41.21 | nautiazn85 | thanks a lot y ou guys |
| 00:41.25 | nautiazn85 | i appreciate all the help |
| 00:41.30 | jetscreamer | nautiazn85: that's to build a kernel, linux-headers are to compile against when running a stock debian kernel |
| 00:41.31 | JoCat | About that keyboard problem... |
| 00:41.54 | jetscreamer | do you have usb support enabled in your bios is all i can think of |
| 00:41.57 | nautiazn85 | jetscreamer: yah I wanted to build and compile a kernel |
| 00:42.02 | JoCat | 2.4 and 2.6 Kernels have built in support for USB keyboards, right? |
| 00:42.05 | jetscreamer | get the source luke |
| 00:42.14 | JoCat | jetscreamer: yes |
| 00:42.20 | jetscreamer | 2.6 does, i guess 2.4 does |
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| 00:42.39 | JoCat | My USB keyboard does work in 2.4, but not in 2.6. |
| 00:42.59 | JoCat | I'd use 2.4, but I none of my drivers work in 2.4. |
| 00:43.22 | jetscreamer | !usb keyboard |
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| 00:43.41 | daeos | im guessing nobody does |
| 00:43.43 | JoCat | It makes me cry on the inside. |
| 00:44.09 | JoCat | Yes. I'm the only person in this apartment building that still needs a PS/2 keyboard. |
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| 00:45.41 | JoCat | Seems Linux doesn't like Chaintech/nForce 4. |
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| 00:46.44 | nautiazn85 | Could somebody explain to me what: sarge, etch, stable, and testing are? What their differences are? |
| 00:47.04 | Blissex | JoCat: PS/2 keywboard is a good idea... |
| 00:47.15 | Blissex | JoCat: and GF4 should work without troule. |
| 00:47.22 | Blissex | nautiazn85: it is explained on Debian.org. |
| 00:47.43 | nautiazn85 | blissex: is etch and sarge basically different builds? |
| 00:47.47 | Blissex | nautiazn85: however, some vital detail that might help you: Sarge/stable are a _distribution_. |
| 00:48.15 | nautiazn85 | how about etch/testing? |
| 00:48.30 | Blissex | nautiazn85: testing and unstable are semi-random collections of packages that, when they all work together, are released as a distribution. |
| 00:48.44 | nautiazn85 | and etch? |
| 00:48.44 | nautiazn85 | hehe |
| 00:49.15 | Blissex | nautiazn85: Etch is the name for the current 'testing', just as Sarge is the name for the current 'stable'. |
| 00:49.44 | JoCat | Blissex: I'd love to use a PS/2 keyboard, but I don't have one. |
| 00:49.55 | JoCat | Also, I can't get one. |
| 00:49.55 | nautiazn85 | blissex: thanks a ton, that makes a lot more sense |
| 00:49.57 | nautiazn85 | thank you |
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| 00:50.35 | JoCat | The keyboard works up to the point where the kernel tries to take over the drivers. I can type, "boot: whatever" just fine. |
| 00:51.08 | Blissex | JoCat: because it is a USB keyboard...? |
| 00:51.14 | JoCat | Yes. |
| 00:51.47 | JoCat | Or because it hates my mobo. |
| 00:52.01 | JoCat | Seems like a lot of people are having problems with the nForce 4 chipset. |
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| 00:53.32 | ReVisions | i just finished to install debian |
| 00:53.37 | ReVisions | and i cant install nothing |
| 00:53.41 | ReVisions | im getting error, somthing about e2fsprogs |
| 00:53.46 | ReVisions | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:53.51 | ReVisions | plz :( |
| 00:54.00 | Blissex | JoCat: that you can use it up to 'boot' is because your motherboard does support it in legacy mode. |
| 00:54.16 | Blissex | JoCat: after 'boot' it is a Linux kernel issue. But it is surprising. |
| 00:54.17 | chealer | ReVisions: can you paste the error? |
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| 00:54.22 | ReVisions | no ;( |
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| 00:54.48 | chealer | ReVisions: it's hard to say with something so vague |
| 00:55.04 | ReVisions | i know |
| 00:55.10 | ReVisions | but i have one computer :\ |
| 00:55.23 | JoCat | I have the error written down somewhere. It's something to the effect of, "HHHH.HHHH: USB TakeOver failed (nVidia Corporation). Couldn't reset." |
| 00:55.29 | detunedwarlock | need help with GPG for installing ATI drivers! |
| 00:55.35 | chealer | ReVisions: so you boot another OS to go on IRC? |
| 00:55.42 | JoCat | Essentially. |
| 00:55.45 | ReVisions | yea |
| 00:55.48 | JoCat | I've gotten it to work on my laptop. |
| 00:56.11 | chealer | ReVisions: are you able to access Internet from Debian? |
| 00:56.21 | loca|host | where to get the php5.1-pgsql |
| 00:56.21 | ReVisions | yea |
| 00:56.26 | detunedwarlock | #flood |
| 00:56.33 | ReVisions | but i cant even install no links and no irssi and whatever |
| 00:56.51 | chealer | ReVisions: OK, so you have a previous experience with GNU/Linux? |
| 00:56.53 | Blissex | JoCat: thats definitely a kernel USB driver issue. It is just not compatible with that chipset. |
| 00:57.14 | ReVisions | yea |
| 00:57.16 | Blissex | JoCat: almost surely there is some workaround. |
| 00:57.21 | JoCat | I've tried five different distros. Is there anything I can do? |
| 00:57.31 | chealer | ReVisions: which release did you install? |
| 00:57.33 | detunedwarlock | !GPG |
| 00:57.33 | dpkg | i guess gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard, a free public-key encryption program available , now in main . or http://www.gnupg.org, but apt-get install gnupg |
| 00:57.43 | ReVisions | just a sec |
| 00:57.50 | Blissex | JoCat: you an wait for a newer kernel with that issue solved, or probably there is some kind of kernel option you can give as a workaround. |
| 00:57.59 | JoCat | Any guesses? |
| 00:57.59 | ReVisions | http://rafb.net/paste/results/ffdrKV14.html here's the error |
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| 00:58.06 | Blissex | JoCat: use the error message or part of it a Google search. |
| 00:58.15 | JoCat | Blisses: I did. No luck. |
| 00:58.35 | JoCat | I've tried so many different things. |
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| 00:59.00 | chealer | ReVisions: and which command exactly triggers that? |
| 00:59.11 | Blissex | JoCat: I can't believe there are few people that are having issues with NF4 chipsets and USB... |
| 00:59.14 | ReVisions | apt-get install ____ |
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| 00:59.35 | JoCat | I've used Google without luch. |
| 00:59.38 | Blissex | JoCat: unless it is your keyboard that in particular has USB issues, and thats likely. |
| 00:59.49 | JoCat | I hadn't thought about that. |
| 00:59.55 | JoCat | But my mouse gives out, too. |
| 00:59.59 | chealer | ReVisions: what does the output of # apt-get -f install; look like? |
| 01:00.04 | JoCat | So I assume it's the usb controller. |
| 01:00.19 | Blissex | JoCat: lots of USB products have buggy implementations. Try some other. |
| 01:00.26 | npx | How would I use sed to replace all instances of "../images/" with "/global_img/" - I have to escape the forward slashes, right? what's the escape character? |
| 01:00.34 | JoCat | All these (the AMD64 and i386 versions) have the same problems: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Debian, Fedora 4, Kororaa, FreeBSD 5, Mandrake, Slackware |
| 01:00.45 | Blissex | JoCat: I got 3 non helpful Google hits for "USB TakeOver failed" |
| 01:00.50 | ReVisions | chealer, nothing interesting... |
| 01:01.04 | Blissex | JoCat: other possibility: get a US$10 USB card :-) |
| 01:01.16 | JoCat | I think I might have to. |
| 01:01.38 | JoCat | Thank you, though, Blissex. You're the most helpful person I've talked to thus far. |
| 01:01.39 | Blissex | JoCat: but wait.... |
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| 01:02.00 | Blissex | JoCat: the real error message that gives me a lot of hits on Google, on the LKML too, is "USB HC TakeOver failed" |
| 01:02.04 | chealer | ReVisions: can you give an example of a command which triggers the error? |
| 01:02.19 | ReVisions | apt-get install links |
| 01:02.27 | ReVisions | for example ;x |
| 01:02.43 | ReVisions | apt-get install xbase-clients |
| 01:02.44 | chealer | ReVisions: tell me when you know which release you installed |
| 01:02.55 | Blissex | JoCat: have a look here: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legacy-list/2004-December/msg00067.html |
| 01:03.02 | ReVisions | testing, net install |
| 01:03.05 | wols_ | ReVisions: apt-gte -f install |
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| 01:03.22 | ReVisions | wols_ i tried, nothing interesting... |
| 01:03.27 | daeos | prehaps anyone thats come in here recently has configured FreeNX ? |
| 01:04.22 | wols_ | !anyone |
| 01:04.22 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 01:04.25 | chealer | ReVisions: you ran apt-get update without issues? |
| 01:04.38 | ReVisions | mmm no |
| 01:04.48 | ReVisions | mayb this is the problem? |
| 01:05.28 | JoCat | Blissex: So I apply this to the kernel source and build it again? |
| 01:05.36 | chealer | ReVisions: I don't know, but the failure suggests that could help. if it doesn't help, try getting the full output of a problematic command |
| 01:05.59 | ReVisions | ok im going to try, cya ;) |
| 01:06.45 | Blissex | JoCat: no, because of two reasons: 1) it was for a very old kernel 2) it only fixes it for OPTi and SiS chipsets. Evidently the NF4 has the same issue and it has not been fixed yet. |
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| 01:07.10 | JoCat | Awww. |
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| 01:07.40 | Blissex | JoCat: but that article suggests a workaround: either 'modprobe hcd-ohci' at boot (put "hcd-ohci" in '/etc/modules') and/or unplug the keyboard just before the kernel boots. |
| 01:07.50 | daeos | ok, as i was saying, im trying to install and configure FreeNX and i run into a authentication issue, and the page im looking at that describes possible issues with authentication says that the user when created doesn't have read access or something? im kinda lost here at what to do with this. |
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| 01:08.02 | Blissex | JoCat: then apparently plugging it in again later makes it work. At least in their case. |
| 01:08.09 | daeos | i've installed Server and got it running, and also have a client ready to connect |
| 01:08.13 | juice` | anyone got any idea why 'buffers' showed in 'top' are very low? they should be few MB, and on very busy box i have them at 10k |
| 01:08.21 | daeos | i've made a user..and the user can't login, it just fails authentication |
| 01:08.39 | juice` | nobody responded for the whole day on #kernel so i ask here, since this is debian anyways |
| 01:09.13 | JoCat | Blissex: I have tried this. |
| 01:09.47 | JoCat | I have an idea I'm going to try. Thank you very much for your help. |
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| 01:10.13 | chealer | daeos: what's the link with Debian? |
| 01:10.49 | daeos | chealer: its a debian package and they don't have an irc support. got a problem with me asking? |
| 01:11.32 | chealer | daeos: a debian package as in a .deb, or a package in Debian? |
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| 01:13.33 | C`Alex | how i can upgrade gcc ? |
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| 01:13.34 | C`Alex | update |
| 01:13.58 | wols_ | C`Alex: which branch of debian? |
| 01:14.04 | C`Alex | debian |
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| 01:14.16 | wols_ | which branch, stable, testing or unstable? |
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| 01:14.34 | C`Alex | i don't know |
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| 01:14.48 | SimonRaven | !version |
| 01:14.48 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 01:14.49 | wizzomafizzo | Maybe someone knows about my font problem this time. In Fluxbox the fonts for it are always ugly and wrong unless i comment out the font server and the paths debian provides and use th other xorg ones. |
| 01:15.00 | C`Alex | 2.4.27-2-k6 |
| 01:15.01 | C`Alex | ? |
| 01:15.02 | wizzomafizzo | It's kind of like they've been resized |
| 01:15.10 | C`Alex | stable |
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| 01:15.45 | wols_ | don't think you can then. what version of gcc did you want? |
| 01:16.18 | C`Alex | new version |
| 01:16.20 | daeos | chealer: .deb package |
| 01:16.41 | wols_ | there are several, 3.3, 3.4, 4.0 |
| 01:16.46 | C`Alex | 40 |
| 01:16.50 | wols_ | and you can't get 4.0 in stable |
| 01:16.52 | C`Alex | aham |
| 01:16.54 | C`Alex | ... |
| 01:16.55 | wols_ | 3.4 perhaps |
| 01:16.58 | C`Alex | 10x |
| 01:17.06 | C`Alex | ;)) |
| 01:17.12 | chealer | daeos: well, FreeNX isn't in Debian, so I guess your question is offtopic |
| 01:17.39 | wols_ | chealer: no it's not. it also include "how do I get stuff running under debian" when they aren't inside debian |
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| 01:18.02 | wols_ | chealer: basically, anytime someone has a problem while running dbeian, #debian is the right place |
| 01:18.20 | chealer | wols_: hah. hardly |
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| 01:20.18 | daeos | chealer: well just so you know, i figured it out |
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| 01:22.36 | daeos | well i have one good question about Debian, when at the login screen for X, the font size is tiny like size 2..... is that normal? |
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| 01:22.47 | daeos | because its very very hard to see anything |
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| 01:25.06 | redrain | Hi, i have a problem with gnupg. My key time was expired, i've updated expire time, but still can't use my secret key do encrypt something, it says "No such user ID." |
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| 01:25.40 | ReVisions | chealer ? |
| 01:25.45 | ReVisions | here? |
| 01:25.47 | chealer | ReVisions: hi |
| 01:25.49 | ReVisions | http://rafb.net/paste/results/EyGflh75.html |
| 01:26.13 | ReVisions | sorry it took so long, i dont have gpm there ( icant install) so i wrote it by own |
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| 01:27.42 | chealer | ReVisions: ouch. you aren't aware that you can redirect a command's output to a file using bash's ">" operator? |
| 01:28.29 | ReVisions | erg!!! |
| 01:28.35 | ReVisions | half of year i didnt use linux |
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| 01:28.46 | ReVisions | i forgot everithing hah |
| 01:28.49 | ReVisions | nm |
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| 01:29.39 | chealer | ReVisions: there's something wrong there...did anything go particularly wrong during the install? |
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| 01:29.51 | ReVisions | mm no... |
| 01:29.58 | Nakko | How do I disable PC-speaker beeps? |
| 01:29.59 | ReVisions | and i installed twise.. |
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| 01:30.13 | chealer | ReVisions: did the same problem happen the first time? |
| 01:30.43 | ReVisions | yup |
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| 01:32.01 | redrain | Nakko: echo "set bell-style none">> ~/.inputrc |
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| 01:32.30 | redrain | Nakko: Also read this: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/110 |
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| 01:33.34 | chealer | ReVisions: hum. I wonder why libc6 is upgraded. the content of the foofile generated by $ apt-cache policy libc6 > foofile; would be helpful |
| 01:34.32 | ReVisions | i cant change OS to check somthing p\ |
| 01:34.33 | ReVisions | l= |
| 01:34.35 | ReVisions | ;\ |
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| 01:35.05 | toothpick | The script is from http://edevelop.org/node/2146 |
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| 01:36.35 | Azar | hi I keep thinking over nVidia driver software as a non-free issue: I need to understand: say I buy a PC or even only the nVidia video card for personal use no matter what OS... isn't nVidia's obligation to provide me (the customer, the buyer, the $$ payer) with an adequate driver for the OS (Debian GNU/Linux) I want to use? |
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| 01:37.05 | wols_ | Azar: no |
| 01:37.14 | Azar | wols_: that is a shame. |
| 01:37.34 | Azar | well it should man |
| 01:37.50 | Azar | because nVidia is not a microsoft branch |
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| 01:38.07 | wols_ | e.g. I think okab8 rzbs ib x86, so is nvidia now under obligation to provide drivers for it? all 5 users of plan9 on PCs? |
| 01:38.13 | wols_ | you can't demand that |
| 01:38.39 | wols_ | nvidia is a company. and they can only do it if it enhances their bottom line |
| 01:39.06 | Azar | wols_: as long as a furniture company perform both: standard and on-demand furniture why nVidia would not? |
| 01:39.58 | dbindner_ | Any Maxima users? I'd like to make my 5.9.1 Maxima use a custom omplotdata script instead of the one in the package. Rather than change the file for everyone on the system, I was hoping there might just be a path variable I could modify for myself. |
| 01:40.03 | wols_ | the furniture company only does it if you pay 5 times as much as the guy next door who buys his stuff at ikea (mass produced) |
| 01:40.04 | Azar | it is a standard practice to sell for various type of customer needs |
| 01:40.18 | wols_ | so do you want to pay nvidia 5times as much for your graphics card to get linux drivers? |
| 01:40.25 | Azar | wols_: I would |
| 01:40.48 | wols_ | well, you're the only one. which means soneone needs to write the driver only for you |
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| 01:41.00 | wols_ | which menas it's 5000 times as much as a normal nvidia card |
| 01:41.27 | Azar | wols_: I feel something is really wrong with your theory |
| 01:41.28 | wols_ | besides: nvidia already does make a driver for linux. it's ati which does not (their latelx x1600+ cards) |
| 01:41.39 | wols_ | and I feel IHBT |
| 01:41.40 | Azar | ati can go to hell |
| 01:41.49 | Coweater | yay a fanboy |
| 01:42.02 | Azar | ati lost to nvidia big time |
| 01:42.05 | wols_ | Coweater: from the poV of linux he's right tho |
| 01:42.12 | dbindner_ | I admit that I buy nvidia because of their Linux support. |
| 01:42.48 | wols_ | that's one reason for me as well, but not the only one. when nvidia had their FX line, nothing would make me buy one of their cards: they were just too crappy |
| 01:42.51 | Azar | you know what is the big gain for nvidia there? its products can go on most of the OS-es, while ati will suck carrots |
| 01:43.29 | chealer | ReVisions: I know you have to switch OS, but that information would help...I don't know what's the problem otherwise |
| 01:43.38 | wols_ | that's only a gain when it translates to more profits |
| 01:44.03 | Azar | wols_: in the long run customer loyalty counts. |
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| 01:44.40 | wols_ | no. in the long run dollars earned vs. dollars spent counts |
| 01:44.40 | Azar | its not the big hit they could make this or next month: is keeping customer flow in the green area all the time |
| 01:44.41 | wols_ | nothing else |
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| 01:45.09 | wols_ | customer satisfaction is only a indirect variable there |
| 01:45.36 | daeos | Im having a problem with the default font for X... at the login screen , where do i need to go in order to change it. |
| 01:45.46 | Azar | tech companies that cater to only one segment of the market will sooner or later get hit with consumer backlash |
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| 01:46.21 | wols_ | yes cause MS is doing so bad financially :P |
| 01:46.24 | wols_ | or apple |
| 01:46.27 | Azar | look at people wanting to use dual boot systems: ati sucks at it |
| 01:46.38 | Canna | why is Azar so angry? |
| 01:46.49 | wols_ | Canna: cause he tries to troll |
| 01:46.58 | Azar | Canna because the buyer should be the satisfied one, not the vendor |
| 01:47.04 | napoleao | can someone recomend me the best packages to use in Debian in order to have a email server(pop3/smtp) with out of office and disclaimer features? |
| 01:47.45 | daeos | did anyone read my question? |
| 01:47.54 | wols_ | napoleao: for MTA postfix or exim. with imap server cyrus, courier or dovecot |
| 01:48.02 | Canna | lol, so Azar, you think that the company should make certain your satisfied even if it means going into the red themself? |
| 01:48.02 | ggeecko | is there a way I can have fetchmail start at boot as a non root user |
| 01:48.17 | zinx | ggeecko: w/ cron |
| 01:48.20 | alnr | if i have a folder /mydeb containing .deb files, how can I make this folder into a package source to apt-get? (instead of using dpkg) |
| 01:48.35 | nile | daeos, what do you mean by the login screen? |
| 01:48.50 | nile | daeos, do you mean gdm, kdm, or xdm? |
| 01:48.52 | wols_ | nile: he means display manager |
| 01:48.53 | Azar | Canna I cannot see how a company would go bankrupt if they try to sell to multiple OS users? |
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| 01:49.24 | wols_ | Azar: ask that companies targeting beos or alpha workstations |
| 01:49.32 | LtL | daeos - depending on what desktop you use, just find desktop preferences, and set all the font sizes. |
| 01:49.34 | sewi | hello, is there xv package for debian unstable somewhere? |
| 01:49.42 | lakcaj | alnr, man sources.list |
| 01:50.10 | Canna | Azar: the point is it would cost more to hire someone to write the drivers then the profit they would make |
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| 01:50.43 | Azar | Canna, ok I see, I understand they wont do it because they will lose money. ok |
| 01:50.48 | daeos | im not talking about the fonts IN the KDM, GDM... im talking about when you login to get to them |
| 01:50.48 | alnr | lakcaj: tx |
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| 01:51.12 | daeos | the first screen that X shows you |
| 01:51.18 | daeos | where you sign in |
| 01:51.29 | daeos | and you have options to change what GUI you are gonna use |
| 01:51.32 | daeos | those fonts |
| 01:51.34 | Canna | Azar: Linux has always been special because it didnt rely on anyone to write the drivers.... YOU can write them yourself if you want to, and have the drive |
| 01:51.42 | LtL | daeos - gnome control center, or kde ctrl ctr > index > appearance/themes > fonts |
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| 01:52.06 | daeos | LtL: that doesn't change the login screen font size only the window manager's font |
| 01:52.17 | Azar | Canna, I doubt I can write drivers, I barely write a birthday card to my mome |
| 01:52.21 | Azar | mom* |
| 01:52.24 | sfullenwider | what's the proper /dev device for usb ports? |
| 01:52.30 | Canna | hahaha tru man, I hear ya |
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| 01:53.28 | dsl_ | hello? |
| 01:53.45 | daeos | and i've checked KDM's and GDM's font settings and when they are up to even at 20, nothing changes the login screen |
| 01:54.11 | LtL | daeos - hrm, you're right. |
| 01:54.38 | Coweater | sfullenwider: there isn't one, look at the man page for lsusb |
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| 01:54.50 | dsl_ | i am trying to boot the net-install iso from HDA3, to isntall debian, i can get it to boot via grub, but the install wants to locate the needed files on the CD-rom, and me CD-rom us busted, i have the iso on hda3, with the rest of the needed files |
| 01:55.03 | LtL | daeos - cast caution to the wind and configure it to login automatically ;) |
| 01:55.16 | dsl_ | anyone have any idea how to get the isntaller to find the needed files on hda3, instead of looking for them on the cd-rom? |
| 01:55.25 | daeos | pissed me off cause i initially installed Ubuntu, had that problem, then installed Kubuntu, same issue, now with debian, same issue Fonts all screwed up |
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| 01:56.53 | Gwildor | i read about "iso-scan" but i am unsure if it is included in the net-install image |
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| 01:57.08 | LtL | daeos - apt-cache search fonts | less |
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| 01:58.05 | sfullenwider | does anyone know the location of some good debian <=> ipod howtos/guides? |
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| 01:58.28 | GenNMX|Thrae | http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127 <-- CentOS author accused of "hacking" a crashed website |
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| 01:59.08 | snadge | is there an update for debian to fix the commonwealth games daylight saving problem in australia? :) |
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| 01:59.19 | snadge | and if so, which package is it |
| 01:59.24 | nile | sfullenwider, syncing the ipod with linux? |
| 01:59.38 | sfullenwider | yeah |
| 02:00.15 | Gwildor | anyone?? |
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| 02:00.36 | nile | sfullenwider, http://neuron.com/~jason/ipod.html |
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| 02:00.52 | snadge | libc6 package? |
| 02:01.40 | cheal | snadge: yes, see #356148 |
| 02:03.00 | IceTox | Any clue what the glib package is named in the apt-get sources? |
| 02:05.14 | cheal | IceTox: yes. $ apt-cache -n search glib |
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| 02:05.57 | IceTox | cache.. offcourse.. thanks cheal.. i couldn't remember that... I was trying like all various of apt-get bla bla :P Thanks a lot :-) |
| 02:06.11 | cheal | IceTox: hehe :) |
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| 02:07.07 | sfullenwider | usb stuff appears off an scsi bus? |
| 02:07.16 | SabioDoSilencio | ola? |
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| 02:08.04 | cheal | IceTox: since asking about that probably implies you have X, remember you can use synaptic if you're not familiar with package management from CLI |
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| 02:08.34 | IceTox | I'll like to learn it the old way cheal :-) Thanks anyway |
| 02:09.32 | cheal | IceTox: you can always learn the good old way, but trying to guess package names won't learn you much |
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| 02:10.28 | IceTox | true cheal.. If it turns out I don't make it the old way, I can use your example and make it right ;) |
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| 02:11.32 | lordnazgul | is there a package that will allow software raid emulation like disk managment allows in windows server? |
| 02:12.49 | shaula | is it enough to go through steps written here to be able to play mkv (matroska) files in debian --->http://www.princessleia.com/MPlayer.php |
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| 02:13.25 | shaula | i went all through it but i still cant get mkv s work, as a newbie i am stuck :( |
| 02:13.53 | shaula | i get such an error : Starting playback... |
| 02:13.54 | shaula | [h264 @ 0x8738e40]QP -17 out of range |
| 02:13.54 | shaula | Error while decoding frame! |
| 02:13.54 | shaula | mplayer: h264.c:2306: mc_dir_part: Assertion `pic->data[0]' failed. |
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| 02:14.19 | lordnazgul | shaula i believe that matroska is supported in the xine essential codec pack available from the xine website. this should work with xine or any derivative of it like totem. |
| 02:14.36 | JoCat | Still no luck with Debian. |
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| 02:17.03 | shaula | lordnazgul, ok i ll try xine then, actually mplayer recognizes the matroska file but it cant play it, noway to play those files in mplayer? |
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| 02:17.52 | lordnazgul | i couldnt tell you i dont use mplayer |
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| 02:19.05 | shaula | lordnazgul, ok thank you very much |
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| 02:19.12 | lordnazgul | shaula np |
| 02:19.14 | sfullenwider | Anyone have an ipod? I just bought a new one, and am attempting to use it for the first time, I just got it recognized by linux, I think, and have added songs via gtkpod, I tihnk, the ipod screen says do not disconnect |
| 02:19.22 | sfullenwider | Does this mean something? |
| 02:19.33 | dadexter | means "do not disconnect" |
| 02:19.46 | sfullenwider | does this mean I need to do something to disconnect? |
| 02:19.55 | dadexter | but I don't own an iPod so I have no idea |
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| 02:23.46 | nautiazn85 | I recently tried to run "make menuconfig" on my kernel sources and it tells me to install ncurses-devel... but I don't have ncurses-devel when I search for it using apt-cache |
| 02:23.50 | nautiazn85 | anybody know why? |
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| 02:24.39 | GodFodder | how do I determine which packages depend upon a particular package, for example something like dpkg --list-all-dependancies-for lib-xyz.so |
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| 02:25.26 | alnr | my sources.list contains file:/path/to/mydebs unstable main. I ran dpkg-scanpackages /path/to/mydebs /dev/null | gzip > path/to/mydebs/Packages.gz. But apt-get update complains unstable/main Packages not found. what is the proper way to set up the source folder? |
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| 02:26.04 | Azar | alnr: maybe the package you want is "non-free contrib"? |
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| 02:26.33 | napoleao | my config/localversion.h is pointing to my old kernel version, which I dont have installed anymore, how can I change that to my current kernel? |
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| 02:26.44 | nautiazn85 | Anybody know the answer to my question by any chance? |
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| 02:28.21 | eggzeck | nautiazn85, libncurses5-dev (or something similar) |
| 02:28.49 | napoleao | nautiazn85 try to install libncurses5 |
| 02:28.54 | eggzeck | try a search for "libncurses" |
| 02:29.16 | eggzeck | he needs also dev :) |
| 02:29.26 | napoleao | yesm it is libncurses5-dev :) |
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| 02:29.37 | punking | ±×³ðÅ͹̳ο¡¼ ÇѱÛÀÌ ±úÁ®³ª¿É´Ï´Ù. |
| 02:29.52 | cunzhang | punking，utf-8 |
| 02:29.57 | napoleao | lol |
| 02:30.00 | eggzeck | lol |
| 02:30.04 | alnr | Azar: thankx, then apt-get update complains "Err file: contrib/non-free Packages". It seems to expect Packages not Packages.gz |
| 02:30.14 | moyix_ | is there a way to get portmap to listen only on the loopback interface? |
| 02:30.57 | nautiazn85 | thanks you guys |
| 02:30.58 | nautiazn85 | that helps a lot |
| 02:30.59 | lordnazgul | portmap -i 127.0.0.1 |
| 02:31.05 | weasel00 | !grep |
| 02:31.06 | dpkg | grep is probably at http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/grep.html (GNU grep, egrep and fgrep.) or called that because of ed's g/RE/p command, which does the same thing or "Marvel at the beautiful plumage of the wild grep as it glides lazily through the thick morning ASCII.". Global Regular Expression Print |
| 02:31.33 | moyix_ | lordhazgul: thanks! |
| 02:31.54 | lordnazgul | moyix next time try man portmap |
| 02:32.38 | weasel00 | how do i look for a particular process? |
| 02:32.43 | moyix_ | lordhazgul: sorry--I tried google and /usr/share/doc/portmap, but I was expecting an /etc/default/ entry, not a command line option |
| 02:32.54 | Azar | alnr: maybe your sources are not set right, let me give you a sample |
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| 02:33.10 | eggzeck | weasel00, man ps |
| 02:33.21 | weasel00 | thank you eggzeck |
| 02:33.29 | Azar | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 02:33.30 | Azar | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 02:33.39 | Azar | alnr: there |
| 02:34.05 | Azar | only use your distro: / unstable instead of mine |
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| 02:34.32 | eggzeck | weasel00, if you don't want to read: ps -e (for all) |
| 02:35.17 | weasel00 | eggzeck, takes me a minute to read and process it in my head, i was trying to grep so now i know where to look =) |
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| 02:36.00 | eggzeck | :) |
| 02:36.10 | weasel00 | apache-ssl is for apache1 correct? |
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| 02:36.23 | alnr | Azar: thanks. it seem that if parameters after the url entry are x y, then maybe there must be a file x/y/Packages |
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| 02:36.40 | zasr | Can any experienced debian users help me with an installation problem?? |
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| 02:37.09 | zasr | Im doing testing net install, and it's asking for an IP address, but im on DSL, and my IP changes every time I connect, how do I type it in? |
| 02:37.33 | Azar | alnr: if you look hard at it you can see it has 3 parts: the url/debian + distro / stable + options (main non-free contrib) |
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| 02:37.46 | weasel00 | zasr : it didnt get an ip form your dhcp? |
| 02:37.56 | zasr | wease100: no |
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| 02:38.06 | zasr | I think my connection is a different type.. |
| 02:38.20 | zasr | its just DSL, I sign in with a username/pass and my IP changesa every time I connect |
| 02:38.30 | zasr | static I think its called |
| 02:38.33 | alnr | Azar: thanks, I guess have to look hard at some mirrors to see how that is laid out |
| 02:38.43 | zasr | I really want to install this.. |
| 02:38.46 | weasel00 | zasr : if it changes it's dynamic |
| 02:38.52 | zasr | yea, that's it |
| 02:38.54 | zasr | dynamic |
| 02:39.03 | zasr | so can I still netinstall? |
| 02:39.07 | Azar | alnr: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/concise-apt-get-dpkg-primer-for-new.html |
| 02:39.17 | chealer | zasr: how many Ethernet ports do you have? |
| 02:39.21 | zasr | one |
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| 02:39.37 | chealer | zasr: is it plugged directly to your DSL modem? |
| 02:39.39 | zasr | eth0 |
| 02:39.40 | zasr | yes |
| 02:39.43 | zasr | directly |
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| 02:40.23 | chealer | zasr: I don't know exactly what's being asked to you, but you can probably enter anything |
| 02:40.36 | zasr | It says 'Type your IP/Hostname' |
| 02:40.45 | zasr | and if I type anything it says invalid or something.. |
| 02:40.50 | chealer | zasr: it's asking for an IP to use on a LAN, not the one you'll have on Internet |
| 02:41.02 | zasr | yea? |
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| 02:41.11 | zasr | wait |
| 02:41.22 | LtL | zasr - why install 'testing' install stable and choose dhcp addressing |
| 02:41.23 | zasr | Its saying it needs it to connect to the debian mirrors |
| 02:41.25 | weasel00 | zasr : whats ip thats on another computer on your network? |
| 02:41.31 | chealer | zasr: well the hostname is different. what's the exact error if you enter something random? |
| 02:41.41 | zasr | Im the only PC on the network |
| 02:42.04 | eggzeck | is that a network? :P |
| 02:42.09 | sfullenwider | How do you mount a vfat filesystem so any user can add/change files in it? |
| 02:42.13 | zasr | if I enter something random the screen goes red, and it says someting about not being able to find it.. |
| 02:42.33 | lordnazgul | sfullenwider mount -rw /dev/hda1 |
| 02:42.44 | zasr | I know my connections pppoe if that helps.. |
| 02:42.51 | zasr | or if it has to do with anything |
| 02:43.00 | lordnazgul | sfullenwider then just add your mountpoint |
| 02:43.29 | zasr | Don't give up on me, I dont like fedora >< |
| 02:43.30 | zasr | lol |
| 02:43.39 | zasr | and I dont have 14 cds to burn |
| 02:43.50 | chealer | zasr: this is your first install of Debian, right? |
| 02:44.04 | zasr | chealer: besides kanotix...but that doesnt really count |
| 02:44.07 | zasr | so yes |
| 02:44.32 | zasr | I have all my partitions ready and everything >< |
| 02:45.17 | chealer | zasr: you'll have some fun installing Debian over PPPoE anyway. particularly testing. you can't avoid failures and red screens like you referred to |
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| 02:45.49 | zasr | but I just need to connect, and it wont let me without an ip address :X |
| 02:45.58 | zasr | can I type in like.. a range? |
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| 02:46.23 | zasr | or maybe install stable and upgrade to testing? |
| 02:46.25 | chealer | zasr: if I remember right, you won't be able to connect to Internet before the install is done (first reboot) |
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| 02:46.57 | zasr | but I need to I think, I got this net install image that's only like 100mbs |
| 02:47.07 | chealer | zasr: it's possible to install testing directly. I think even stable doesn't install very well over PPPoE |
| 02:47.45 | spookfl | when i try to install libc6-dev i get the following: libc6-dev: |
| 02:47.45 | spookfl | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:47.45 | zasr | so this thing will let me install the base system without connecting? |
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| 02:47.54 | chealer | zasr: no, you can install a base system and install other packages after the initial install. it's just more painful that the installation doesn't go as d-i expects |
| 02:47.58 | chealer | zasr: yes |
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| 02:48.02 | lordnazgul | chealer, zasr, im just going to throw in my two cents here, but in the past ive been able to fool dsl modems a bit, what i have done is logged in to the service on a machine that is currently working and installed, then quickly swap cable to the other machine. those things have some fault tolerance built into them and can sometimes let you remain logged in like that. i have no idea if it would work here or not. just a thought |
| 02:48.13 | chealer | spookfl: which release do you run? |
| 02:48.22 | spookfl | sarge |
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| 02:48.45 | zasr | only one pc lord :(( |
| 02:48.52 | chealer | spookfl: you probably messed with your sources. libc6 2.3.5-8 is not in sarge |
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| 02:49.19 | zasr | and chealer, so lets say I install the base system, and I get into that black screen [Zach@debian]$: |
| 02:49.26 | zasr | what do I type to connect and download packages? |
| 02:49.27 | weasel00 | zasr : what are you running on this computer thats connected to the modem? |
| 02:49.40 | zasr | weasel00: fedora |
| 02:49.53 | zasr | soon to be replaced by debian |
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| 02:50.00 | chealer | zasr: then you'll have to install pppoeconf and run it. that should basically let you access Internet |
| 02:50.00 | zasr | and it has a windows partition too |
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| 02:50.34 | zasr | And there's no easier way to get debian testing? :P |
| 02:50.51 | chealer | zasr: it's not impossible :) |
| 02:50.52 | weasel00 | zasr : give this link a check.. its a walkthrough for sharing your connection on rh/fedora |
| 02:51.07 | eggzeck | windows, fedora, the nightmare O_O |
| 02:51.16 | zasr | it's working fine for me O_o |
| 02:51.29 | zasr | I just like debian.. |
| 02:51.53 | eggzeck | i'm on a win machine right now though hehe |
| 02:52.24 | zasr | Like..I dont want to install through mepis or kanotix, I want a pure debian install |
| 02:52.33 | streuner | eggzeck: is there an certain reason why you telling us that? |
| 02:53.29 | napoleao | how can I change my locate version.h? is poiting to my old kernel |
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| 02:53.39 | D13GU__ | hi all! |
| 02:53.44 | D13GU__ | one suggestion about web host company? |
| 02:53.49 | streuner | !b-e napoleao |
| 02:53.49 | dpkg | napoleao: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
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| 02:53.57 | Ronin | D13GU__: google |
| 02:53.58 | napoleao | done that |
| 02:54.06 | napoleao | :( |
| 02:54.07 | streuner | !version.h |
| 02:54.07 | dpkg | if you use multiple kernels and wish to use the include files with ease, copy /usr/src/linux/include to /usr/include/kernel-X.Y.Z. then 'ln -fs /usr/include/kernel-X.Y.Z/linux/version.h /usr/include/linux/version.h' |
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| 02:54.35 | D13GU__ | Ronin google is a search page, not host :) hehehe |
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| 02:54.52 | Ronin | yes you lazy arse and go use it |
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| 02:55.03 | eggzeck | lol |
| 02:55.06 | debclisys | what extension/option would i require if needing to untar a .tarball that' has been hit by bzip2 ? |
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| 02:55.46 | streuner | debcl: /msg dpkg tar |
| 02:55.49 | snowrichard | tar xjf file.tar.bz2 |
| 02:55.49 | lordnazgul | debclisys tar -xvjf foo.tar.bz |
| 02:55.56 | Kelsey23 | $ tar xvjf file.tar.bz2 |
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| 02:56.08 | zasr | what does xvjf stand for? |
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| 02:56.17 | streuner | zasr: man tar |
| 02:56.23 | Ronin | zasr: variables |
| 02:56.29 | snadge | exctract, verbose, bzip2, file |
| 02:56.30 | Ronin | oops sorry i lied man tar |
| 02:56.35 | Kelsey23 | X stnads for extract |
| 02:56.37 | cheal | zasr: in case you asked something, my connection skipped after you wrote "I just like debian.." |
| 02:56.50 | streuner | 'j' for extract bzip2 files |
| 02:56.50 | Kelsey23 | B means print out extracted |
| 02:56.58 | debclisys | i've already bunzip2'd the .bz2 file |
| 02:57.04 | zasr | cheal: yea, I want to install pure debian, none of that kanotix, mepis crap ;/ |
| 02:57.08 | debclisys | i'm looking for the tar extension/option |
| 02:57.10 | streuner | so use 'tar xvf' then |
| 02:57.24 | zasr | 'Cannot find host 'www.google.ca''... |
| 02:57.25 | zasr | nice. |
| 02:57.25 | Kelsey23 | debclisys what is the extension on the file |
| 02:57.31 | Kelsey23 | sorry for bold... |
| 02:57.35 | Kelsey23 | . |
| 02:57.56 | cheal | zasr: you're right. I told you it's not easy, but it should be worth it. with chance, I'll be here if you hit a serious problem |
| 02:57.57 | Kelsey23 | crap... |
| 02:58.00 | Kelsey23 | oh fixed |
| 02:58.16 | zasr | cheal: yea, ill go mess with it, best of luck ;) |
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| 02:59.07 | VolVE | hey all, so I added a new DVD drive and now LVM2 is saying it can't find one of my drives (the master on the secondary ide channel that the DVD drive is on, strangely) - dmesg sees the drive, but "pvdisplay" lists it as "unknown device" instead of, say, /dev/hdc as it should be... any ideas? :( |
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| 03:01.53 | lordnazgul | zasr try this link www.madcarters.com/content/view/6 |
| 03:02.57 | lily | hai |
| 03:03.05 | daeos | I'm having trouble with my computer thinking that its called localhost.localdomain ... how can i change that? |
| 03:04.01 | SimonRaven | saturday: when the trolls, idiots, and spammers come out |
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| 03:04.18 | daeos | SimonRaven: trolls? you got an issue with trolls? |
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| 03:04.31 | Stevie | Clueween |
| 03:04.40 | Stevie | (all clueful's eve) |
| 03:04.53 | eggzeck | daeos, man hostname? |
| 03:05.08 | daeos | eggzeck: yeah how do i change that? |
| 03:05.21 | Stevie | 'man hostname' is a good start |
| 03:05.28 | daeos | ... |
| 03:05.28 | Stevie | as eggy suggested |
| 03:05.31 | daeos | LOL |
| 03:05.40 | eggzeck | type: man hostname (in a terminal) |
| 03:05.45 | daeos | thought he ment "man" as in dude |
| 03:05.47 | daeos | lol |
| 03:05.53 | daeos | right |
| 03:06.08 | Stevie | <- has learned to add appropriate quoting |
| 03:06.28 | eggzeck | I guess it could be my fault :P |
| 03:06.52 | weasel00 | !mod_ssl |
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| 03:07.00 | weasel00 | hrm |
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| 03:07.43 | daeos | how funny, hostname shows correct info, but not when i sign in or check out my website info |
| 03:08.45 | m1ke_l | anyone know how to boot a sun sparc utlra 30 to cd? |
| 03:09.09 | lordnazgul | daeos what does 'less /etc/hostname' output |
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| 03:11.07 | Coweater | m1ke_l: boot cdrom from the prom console should do it |
| 03:12.01 | m1ke_l | thanks....could figure out how to get to prom thingy....stop-a |
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| 03:12.28 | spookfl | thanks chealer..not sure how/when i got libc6 out of sync but ya pointed me in the right direction...libc6-dev installed and i'm a happy compiler |
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| 03:19.34 | eeman | hi im have a few questions about xwindow and my video card |
| 03:19.47 | eeman | i got it to run but using another video card |
| 03:19.59 | eeman | and i have an X800XL, |
| 03:20.14 | eeman | anyone know how I would install drivers for it |
| 03:20.31 | Madsy | eeman: Wrong time of day to ask questions. |
| 03:20.45 | m1ke_l | depends on where he is doesn't it? |
| 03:20.49 | Madsy | I'm drunk, and can probably not answer anyowany |
| 03:20.58 | Madsy | and tghe reat is asleep. |
| 03:21.01 | m1ke_l | im not drunk, but still have no idea |
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| 03:21.06 | eeman | anyone here helpful? |
| 03:21.19 | Coweater | is it pcie? |
| 03:21.21 | eeman | IS ANYONE HERE HELPFUL |
| 03:21.21 | Madsy | nope |
| 03:21.23 | chealer9 | eeman: which chipset does it use? |
| 03:21.26 | Madsy | try again in 10 hours |
| 03:21.29 | m1ke_l | eeman: dont shout |
| 03:21.30 | eeman | x800xl |
| 03:21.33 | chealer9 | eeman: please drop the CAPS |
| 03:21.34 | eeman | sry |
| 03:22.04 | chealer9 | eeman: is x800xl supposed to be the chipset? |
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| 03:22.18 | eeman | yes its a genuine ati card |
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| 03:22.23 | eeman | its an x800 series |
| 03:22.32 | suyog | hello everyone |
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| 03:22.51 | chealer9 | eeman: I think x800xl is the model of the card. I'm asking about the chipset that card uses |
| 03:23.04 | suyog | why does my GUI crash when I upgrade from stable to unstable? any solution to it? |
| 03:23.05 | eeman | it is |
| 03:23.15 | eeman | but the chipset is x800l. |
| 03:23.21 | eeman | *xl |
| 03:23.25 | __theklone | ati |
| 03:23.28 | eeman | uas |
| 03:23.29 | eeman | *ya |
| 03:23.34 | chealer9 | eeman: hum. where do you get that information? |
| 03:23.44 | eeman | when i bought it |
| 03:23.46 | suyog | anyone, please? |
| 03:23.49 | eeman | and from looking on the site |
| 03:23.59 | eeman | ill get link |
| 03:24.04 | Coweater | if it's pci express you're not going to get support for it |
| 03:24.05 | chealer9 | eeman: OK |
| 03:24.24 | Azar | suyog: unstable crashes... because.. is unstable ? |
| 03:24.31 | eeman | http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx800/index.html |
| 03:24.35 | eeman | no its AGP |
| 03:24.40 | alk^ | anyone wanna hear some mp3 I've been making? |
| 03:24.44 | suyog | Azar, but they say unstable isn't so unstable at all!! |
| 03:25.00 | Azar | suyog: believe me: it is very unstable for newbies |
| 03:25.16 | suyog | Azar, how can i fix it when it crashes? |
| 03:25.18 | Coweater | chealer9: the x800xl is r430 chip |
| 03:25.23 | Azar | suyog: who are "they" that say that? |
| 03:25.25 | eeman | anyone know if i could get the drivers to work for it or how? |
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| 03:25.39 | eeman | my apologies |
| 03:25.39 | Azar | suyog: you do not fix them if you do not know how: you reinstall |
| 03:25.40 | suyog | Azar, they say that in forums and reviews |
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| 03:25.51 | Azar | suyog: what forums? |
| 03:25.56 | chealer9 | Coweater: that's more what I expected...although you should tell that to eeman :) |
| 03:26.08 | Azar | suyog: are you trying about "vista" ? |
| 03:26.09 | EdLin | suyog: iyhtays |
| 03:26.13 | chealer9 | eeman: which X drivers did you try? |
| 03:26.20 | suyog | Azar, i'm tired of stable!! i don't want to reinstall stable. |
| 03:26.28 | Azar | errr again: suyog are you talking about vista? |
| 03:26.35 | suyog | no!!! |
| 03:26.40 | eeman | i didnt try any i was wondering if there were any overall linux drivers for my card |
| 03:26.40 | suyog | i'm talking about debian sid!! |
| 03:26.45 | Azar | suyog: then learn how to fix an unstable Debian |
| 03:26.48 | Red_Cloud | In order to setup my printer, I need to configure a test page to print. The interface dialogue is asking for a "postscript" file. What would be the extension of a postscript file? |
| 03:26.54 | eggzeck | alk^, what is it? |
| 03:27.00 | suyog | Azar, that's why i am here!! to learn!! :) |
| 03:27.05 | dawg | eeman, look up fglx |
| 03:27.08 | alk^ | eggzeck; some song I started this morning when drunk |
| 03:27.11 | alk^ | http://psycle.free.fr/alk/alk-qp6.mp3 |
| 03:27.12 | Coweater | Red_Cloud: ps |
| 03:27.13 | eeman | whats that |
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| 03:27.28 | Azar | suyog: I once used unstable, it worked a while then died. Since , I use stable and I am very happy |
| 03:27.39 | Red_Cloud | Coweater, thanks. |
| 03:27.49 | chealer9 | eeman: sorry but what do you mean by "overall linux drivers"? |
| 03:27.52 | suyog | how about packages? I want any package, it's not available for stable!! |
| 03:27.55 | Azar | suyog: do like me: 57 reinstalls in 3 years |
| 03:27.57 | eggzeck | alk^, streaming now |
| 03:28.00 | alk^ | :) |
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| 03:28.16 | suyog | i think i've done 30 reinstallations in the last 3 months!! :D |
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| 03:28.29 | alk^ | eggzeck; not what you expected :P |
| 03:28.30 | Azar | suyog: good job, keep doing it |
| 03:28.47 | daeos | lordnazgul: the correct info, sorry for the delay |
| 03:28.59 | EdLin | suyog: if you want to find out what problems are in sid, you should check #debian-devel's topic |
| 03:29.00 | eeman | chealer9: as in a driver that would just work with most linux distros |
| 03:29.03 | suyog | Azar, what do u do for new packages that aren't available for stable, or in backports? |
| 03:29.11 | chealer9 | suyog: unstable is only an option if you have a log of experience with Debian |
| 03:29.14 | eggzeck | alk^, no lol, I expected an instrumental, but not quite like this :P... has some rythm though :P |
| 03:29.14 | EdLin | suyog: a recent problem breaks X |
| 03:29.19 | Azar | suyog: I pretend they never existed |
| 03:29.22 | lordnazgul | daeos. if /etc/hostname is correct a reboot should solve it. the hostname is set at reboot |
| 03:29.32 | eeman | brb |
| 03:29.33 | alk^ | heh ^^ |
| 03:29.47 | suyog | i'm going to switch to Ubuntu. it's easier for newbies. |
| 03:29.47 | weasel00 | !testing |
| 03:29.47 | dpkg | A release phase between frozen (stable) and unstable. Etch is now testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
| 03:29.47 | chealer9 | eeman: hum...we can only speak for #debian |
| 03:29.55 | Azar | suyog: good idea |
| 03:30.23 | eggzeck | I say use Debian for servers, and Ubuntu for Desktops :) |
| 03:30.33 | suyog | and another thing, can anyone here help me with ppp? (dialup) |
| 03:30.36 | eggzeck | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:30.39 | lordnazgul | no way debian for everything |
| 03:30.41 | powder | I say Debian for desktops :) |
| 03:30.42 | eggzeck | :) |
| 03:30.50 | chealer9 | suyog: we don't care. this is a support channel. if you don't have a question about Debian, don't tell us about your life |
| 03:31.01 | chealer9 | !tell suyog about anyone |
| 03:31.13 | powder | I switched from ubunto to debian and i am much happier in debian |
| 03:31.15 | weasel00 | what was the link for changing the apt sources to pull from testing? |
| 03:31.15 | suyog | come on chealer, don't be so sour!! i AM using debian!! |
| 03:31.34 | daeos | lordnazgul: i've rebooted 2 times already |
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| 03:31.49 | EdLin | is there something about -too distributions that make them popular amongst people lacking clue? |
| 03:32.02 | eeman | guys |
| 03:32.05 | EdLin | maybe we should rename Debian Debintu and it will gain market share |
| 03:32.07 | chealer9 | suyog: I was referring to you mentionning "i'm going to switch to Ubuntu. it's easier for newbies.". sorry, but we don't want to hear about your life |
| 03:32.25 | weasel00 | !sources |
| 03:32.25 | dpkg | If you have problems adding unofficial sites to /etc/apt/sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list, |
| 03:32.26 | lordnazgul | daeos what doest the first line in /etc/hosts read. it should end in your hostname |
| 03:32.28 | daeos | Ubuntu isn't easier!! |
| 03:32.29 | Dwonis | EdLin: I prefer "Ubian" |
| 03:32.31 | suyog | come on.... i was just trying to stir people into helping me!! |
| 03:32.47 | Azar | Id pay monthly and pray Debian does not go like ubuntu |
| 03:32.50 | suyog | chealer, do u have experience with dialup connections? |
| 03:32.53 | EdLin | suyog: that sounds like another way of saying "trolling" |
| 03:32.57 | EdLin | !u |
| 03:32.57 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:33.02 | chealer9 | eeman: anyway, vesa should work under Debian |
| 03:33.18 | eeman | it doesnt |
| 03:33.22 | weasel00 | naderland ja! |
| 03:33.23 | chealer9 | suyog: heh |
| 03:33.24 | eeman | it always gives errors |
| 03:33.28 | daeos | lordnazgul: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost *****correct name here**** |
| 03:33.30 | eeman | like bad configuration |
| 03:33.32 | eeman | etxc |
| 03:33.35 | chealer9 | suyog: not under Debian |
| 03:33.43 | eeman | yes under debian |
| 03:33.52 | eeman | im using stable release |
| 03:33.54 | eeman | dvd |
| 03:34.01 | EdLin | suyog: I use ppp under Debian |
| 03:34.04 | chealer9 | eeman: ...I was talking to suyog |
| 03:34.09 | eeman | oh sry |
| 03:34.10 | suyog | ah... my debian just can not connect using dialup. the modem dials, then the remote computer hangs up. |
| 03:34.29 | daeos | get broadband |
| 03:34.30 | suyog | exit code = 1 |
| 03:34.40 | weasel00 | suyog : are you sending the right ATD codes? |
| 03:34.42 | chealer9 | eeman: "bad configuration" is rather vague. having access to the X log would be more useful |
| 03:34.43 | suyog | no broadband available where I live. South Asia. |
| 03:34.47 | EdLin | suyog: after you use pon, tail -f /var/log/messages and find out what the error is |
| 03:35.02 | lordnazgul | daeos, then you lost me sorry |
| 03:35.16 | daeos | aw poo, no wonder they have cafe's for kids to play online games |
| 03:35.18 | suyog | the error is, "the remote modem hung up" |
| 03:35.25 | daeos | lordnazgul: thats correct then? |
| 03:35.33 | EdLin | suyog: you have the password correct? |
| 03:35.59 | eeman | chealer9: Can i simply put on ati's drivers on a cd, run base-config and import them? |
| 03:36.00 | lordnazgul | daeos. seems to be |
| 03:36.03 | eeman | or use apt-get |
| 03:36.09 | suyog | no!! i connect using another distro, and it connects fine. There seems to be some wrong setting in ppp, and i can't seem to find it |
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| 03:36.28 | EdLin | suyog: try running pppconfig again |
| 03:36.36 | chealer9 | eeman: the radeon driver in stable seems to not support your card |
| 03:36.40 | DeadS0ul` | how do I install java on debian? |
| 03:36.52 | EdLin | !tell DeadS0ul` -about java |
| 03:36.53 | chealer9 | DeadS0ul`: /topic |
| 03:36.57 | eeman | the one on atis site? or the one with debian |
| 03:37.12 | suyog | i've done that. And i used wvdial, pon, kppp, everything. and i've re installed debian almost 20 times!! |
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| 03:37.33 | weasel00 | alright who knocked out my berkely.edu mirror =P |
| 03:37.43 | chealer9 | eeman: I don't know about the one on ATI's site. I was referring to the one in Debian 3.1 |
| 03:37.48 | eeman | ATI Desktop Product Family Support |
| 03:37.48 | eeman | The ATI Proprietary Linux driver is designed to support the following ATI desktop products: |
| 03:37.48 | eeman | Radeon® X850 series |
| 03:37.48 | eeman | Radeon® 9200 series |
| 03:37.48 | eeman | Radeon® X800 series |
| 03:37.49 | eeman | Radeon® 9000 series |
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| 03:38.16 | suyog | is there a way to run another distro from within debian, just for making dialup connections? |
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| 03:38.43 | daeos | lordnazgul: would it be ok for me to rename the localhost.localdomain? |
| 03:38.49 | suyog | that is, until i find a fix to my problem. |
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| 03:40.06 | redd4 | I have 3 users, two of them have no sound. I use alsa, sarge. What do I need to do so they can have sound? |
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| 03:40.31 | lordnazgul | daeos. i may be wrong but i dont think it will make a difference. i believe that the hosts file sets priority to the end of the line and goes toward the beginning. you could certainly try but just make sure there is a backup |
| 03:40.36 | suyog | chealer9, can i run another distro from within debian? |
| 03:41.02 | daeos | gotta love people who hae useruser as their login |
| 03:41.07 | daeos | have* |
| 03:41.10 | DeadS0ul` | heh |
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| 03:41.24 | powder | default luser |
| 03:41.29 | chealer9 | suyog: uh, probably, but that would probably be overkill. did you post the log of your PPP connection attempts yet? |
| 03:42.09 | suyog | chealer9, yes, i did. no one seems to know. Very few people use dialup these days. |
| 03:42.15 | lordnazgul | daeos. sorry i forgot what happens when you type hostname |
| 03:42.30 | suyog | chealer9, even the guy from ISP tried helping me and failed |
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| 03:42.31 | daeos | lordnazgul: its correct |
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| 03:42.50 | lordnazgul | just hte name on the prompt for the terminal is the problem then right |
| 03:42.54 | weasel00 | suyog : what was the url to your log? |
| 03:42.59 | daeos | lordnazgul: but when a php script pulls server info, it shows the wrong info... localhost..... |
| 03:42.59 | redd4 | I have 3 users, two of them have no sound. I use alsa, sarge. What do I need to do so they can have sound? |
| 03:43.00 | chealer9 | suyog: hehe. does he know Debian? |
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| 03:43.23 | kergoth | anyone know much about acpi? in linux my cpu is overheating on a regular basis. works just fine in windows |
| 03:43.32 | chealer9 | suyog: I meant the full log, not just pasting the line which looks most relevant |
| 03:43.32 | kergoth | its like it isnt turning the fan on when it needs to |
| 03:43.37 | Azar | redd4: add them to the audio group |
| 03:43.47 | kergoth | i'd rather it just left it on, i dont care about noise or power consumption on my desktop |
| 03:43.50 | redd4 | Azar: ok, how please |
| 03:44.13 | Azar | redd4: I am not sure, do not remember exactly but it could be : adduser "username" audio |
| 03:44.28 | suyog | i'll try posting the entire log. u mean the one in /etc/var/log/messages? |
| 03:44.28 | weasel00 | kergoth : you try adjusting your bios settings? |
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| 03:44.43 | EdLin | !u |
| 03:44.43 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:44.44 | weasel00 | !pastebin |
| 03:44.44 | dpkg | i guess pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/, or check out http://securelabs.zapto.org/~pureone/src/pastebin.c if your stuck in console only |
| 03:45.00 | EdLin | suyog: /var/log/messages is not in /etc |
| 03:45.01 | kergoth | weasel00: yep, bios is set to keep it below 40C, but it ends up at 66C when the system crashes and burns |
| 03:45.10 | kergoth | and again, it works flawlessly in windows |
| 03:45.16 | suyog | oh yes, typing mistake!! |
| 03:45.47 | suyog | can i paste it here, please? |
| 03:45.56 | kergoth | what the hell, the default trip points are at 100C |
| 03:45.58 | kergoth | 100C! |
| 03:46.01 | chealer9 | suyog: in /var/log/messages |
| 03:46.03 | kergoth | what the hell processor is happy at 100C |
| 03:46.05 | EdLin | suyog: note the pastebin info just posted to the channel |
| 03:46.19 | redd4 | Azar: that worked, do I need to reboot, or logout? |
| 03:46.20 | daeos | 100c ? is that like 100F ? |
| 03:46.23 | lordnazgul | daeos try '# /etc/rcS.d/S40hostname.sh restart' followed by '# /etc/rcS.d/S48console-screen.sh restart' |
| 03:46.25 | daeos | or 140 ? |
| 03:46.28 | Azar | redd4: no |
| 03:46.28 | weasel00 | kergoth : j. torch cpu's brands? |
| 03:46.34 | lordnazgul | that seemed to update my console |
| 03:46.40 | weasel00 | 100C == 215F |
| 03:46.42 | daeos | lordnazgul: alrighty |
| 03:46.48 | daeos | DANG!!! 215!! |
| 03:46.53 | EdLin | weasel00: 212F |
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| 03:47.02 | suyog | i need to go those urls and paste my log? |
| 03:47.14 | weasel00 | edlin : its ben a while since my jepordy carreer ended =) |
| 03:47.46 | weasel00 | !pastebin <-- suyog |
| 03:47.46 | EdLin | weasel00: and your spelling bee career too |
| 03:47.47 | redd4 | Azar: when I click on the volume icon, I get "Sorry, no mixer element and/or devices found" |
| 03:48.08 | lordnazgul | daeos. i had to exit su and then su back into root. but it did the trick |
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| 03:48.35 | weasel00 | EdLin : im two beers away from floating around my desk... =) |
| 03:48.38 | chealer9 | suyog: to one of those URL-s |
| 03:48.41 | Azar | redd4: I would not know about "icons" I don't use any but the application you use should have a config menu see what player you are using |
| 03:49.06 | daeos | lordnazgul: i just did sudo not su |
| 03:49.16 | Azar | redd4: if you use alsa, apt-get install alsamixer and work the volumes there |
| 03:49.21 | suyog | chealer9, I posted the log. it's http://channels.debian.net/paste/2233 |
| 03:49.28 | useruser | this is off-topic, but anyway i thought i'd give it a try. has anyone encountered a laptop which boots from cds but not from dvds? I have a live dvd which gives a crc failure when decompressing the kernel despite having the correct md5sum. i can boot live cds fine, however |
| 03:49.30 | suyog | can u please have a look? |
| 03:49.31 | lordnazgul | daeos i think the change might be triggered by changing users tho. |
| 03:49.38 | daeos | ok |
| 03:49.41 | daeos | i'll try it that way |
| 03:49.46 | redd4 | Azar: ok |
| 03:49.47 | lordnazgul | daeos it seems to behave that way for me |
| 03:49.50 | useruser | if anyone has any ideas for a fix i'd be grateful |
| 03:50.16 | Azar | redd4: after configuring volume with alsamixer: alsactl store to save it |
| 03:50.28 | EdLin | !u |
| 03:50.28 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:50.29 | redd4 | k |
| 03:51.05 | chealer9 | suyog: I don't know PPP much, but the "Hangup (SIGHUP)" looks suspicious to me |
| 03:51.27 | suyog | chealer9, what seems to be the problem? |
| 03:52.09 | suyog | chealer9, might it have anything to do with modem drivers? |
| 03:52.19 | Azar | useruser: no laptop here.. |
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| 03:52.46 | useruser | Azar: eh? |
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| 03:52.58 | Azar | useruser: regarding your question |
| 03:53.14 | redd4 | Azar: I tried to open alsa mixer, says permission denied. I will have to chmod it. Which directory is it in? |
| 03:53.15 | useruser | Azar: um, i don't understand what you mean, sorry |
| 03:53.32 | Azar | redd4: you have to su in root and do it from there |
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| 03:53.34 | daeos | lordnazgul: no beans |
| 03:53.37 | chealer9 | suyog: I don't know. did you consider Googling that line? |
| 03:53.58 | Azar | useruser, nevermind I guess I do not understand either |
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| 03:54.10 | suyog | i did!! i must have visited a thousand pages!! |
| 03:54.14 | useruser | Azar: ok |
| 03:54.16 | useruser | :) |
| 03:54.22 | EdLin | if everyone used google this would be a quiet channel |
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| 03:54.29 | suyog | seems like i'm doomed. :( i even changed my ISP to a linux friendly one! |
| 03:54.40 | Azar | suyog: holdon |
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| 03:54.43 | ontheline22 | Can any experienced linux users please help me, it's sort of an emergency |
| 03:54.52 | ontheline22 | debian users for that matter |
| 03:55.04 | EdLin | !tell ontheline22 -about ask |
| 03:55.04 | weasel00 | wow EdLin the most i have seen you say is <bang>u =) |
| 03:55.13 | GenNMX|Thrae | suyog: Have you contacted your ISP? Normally there are some special settings they will need you to enter. |
| 03:55.27 | daeos | EdLin: is that name the same as the old dos editor? edlin ? |
| 03:55.35 | EdLin | weasel00: I've done a lot of helping here before. |
| 03:55.42 | EdLin | daeos: yes |
| 03:55.44 | ontheline22 | I just installed the base system of testing with netinstall image, and now im left at this black screen after I log in: zasr@debian$: so..how d I connect with my pppoe connection?? |
| 03:56.01 | chealer9 | suyog: sorry, maybe you should ask on a mailing list or forum |
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| 03:56.04 | daeos | EdLin: oh how fun edlin was to use ! ^_^ |
| 03:56.13 | eyeris | Does anyone know why I get these autoconf errors while trying to compile 3.5 from svn? http://rafb.net/paste/results/a2GpTK54.html |
| 03:56.23 | EdLin | daeos: it would be better if it was like ed and had regular expressions |
| 03:56.25 | chealer9 | ontheline22: is pppoeconf installed? |
| 03:56.44 | weasel00 | suyog : this there a more indepth log level you can set the logging to? |
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| 03:57.00 | daeos | EdLin: its been a while since i was using dos 3.22, which had edlin when i used it. |
| 03:57.01 | ontheline22 | chealer9: no, I tried typing pppoeconf and it doesnt recognise the command |
| 03:57.04 | EdLin | chealer9: he doesn't want that, he's on dialup, not ADSL |
| 03:57.05 | StringBlade | NFS question (dreaded 'permission denied' on client): anyone see what I'm doing wrong? (pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/46990) |
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| 03:57.08 | chealer9 | eyeris: 3.5? |
| 03:57.11 | ontheline22 | im on DSL |
| 03:57.13 | suyog | i contacted the isp. they tried their best to help |
| 03:57.20 | suyog | how can i set up a more in-depth log? |
| 03:57.21 | eyeris | chealer9, sorry, KDE 3.5 |
| 03:57.22 | lordnazgul | daeos. you know what i bet that it has, im logged into a tty not doing this through xterm or anything. in fact when i do it i cant open a new xterm without restarting X |
| 03:57.28 | Azar | suyog: you want to learn you said: read: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-low-ppp |
| 03:57.34 | Azar | ^^ that for ppp ^^^ |
| 03:57.34 | chealer9 | EdLin: we've got two PPP folks now :S |
| 03:57.35 | eyeris | chealer9, #kde-devel seems to think it is a debian package problem |
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| 03:57.45 | EdLin | ontheline22: sorry, I got mixed up with you and suyog |
| 03:57.46 | GenNMX|Thrae | useruser: Laptop DVD drives are notorious for having CD problems or DVD problems |
| 03:57.49 | daeos | lordnazgul: hmmm and im sshing into the box |
| 03:57.55 | Azar | suyog: read the entire manual too: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents |
| 03:58.00 | chealer9 | ontheline22: you have to install pppoeconf |
| 03:58.02 | Azar | there are answers to all your questions |
| 03:58.07 | daeos | 2 times actualy 1 for irssi and one for terminal |
| 03:58.19 | chealer9 | eyeris: well ask #debian-kde then |
| 03:58.24 | ontheline22 | how do I install it with no connection?? |
| 03:58.26 | lordnazgul | daeos, so am i actually ;) |
| 03:58.27 | useruser | GenNMX|Thrae: ah, ok. non-fixable problems, presumably |
| 03:58.34 | chealer9 | ontheline22: it's on the netinst CD |
| 03:58.43 | useruser | GenNMX|Thrae: it's pretty odd though. i can use the dvd fine once linux is booted, but i can't boot linux from it |
| 03:58.43 | eyeris | chealer9, I thought #debian-kde was only for the debian kde packages -- not autoconf, etc |
| 03:58.46 | daeos | lordnazgul: and i got FreeNX to work |
| 03:58.55 | ontheline22 | chealer9: how do I install it from the CD? |
| 03:58.57 | GenNMX|Thrae | useruser: I'd call your Laptop manufacturer, tell them you're trying to boot off a Windows XP DVD |
| 03:59.02 | daeos | lordnazgul: now my admins can edit my website |
| 03:59.02 | useruser | GenNMX|Thrae: makes me wonder if the bios is to blame |
| 03:59.16 | cindy | i need some printer help |
| 03:59.18 | StringBlade | anyone who knows nfs got a minute? |
| 03:59.19 | useruser | GenNMX|Thrae: not a bad plan :) |
| 03:59.20 | GenNMX|Thrae | useruser: Most manufacturers will answer your questions for at least 3 years after the laptop was purchased |
| 03:59.33 | useruser | GenNMX|Thrae: hm, this one is at least 5 years down the line, and falling to bits |
| 03:59.48 | GenNMX|Thrae | Well, hope the guy you get is in a good mood |
| 03:59.52 | useruser | heh |
| 04:00.11 | chealer9 | ontheline22: the same way you'd install from Internet...# apt-get install pppoeconf |
| 04:00.29 | lordnazgul | so daeos, are you good then? |
| 04:00.46 | ontheline22 | chealer9: and how do I point it to the disc? |
| 04:00.58 | Azar | ontheline22: if you have the CD, boot your PC, go in BIOS, change the primary boot from floppy or HD to CD. Insert the CD. SAve settings in BIOS and exit. It will then boot from the CD. |
| 04:01.14 | chealer9 | ontheline22: you don't have too. the disc should be in your APT sources, so apt-get install pppoeconf; should work |
| 04:01.23 | ontheline22 | ok, ill go try |
| 04:01.24 | ontheline22 | thx again |
| 04:01.32 | chealer9 | ontheline22: no problem |
| 04:01.36 | Azar | ah sorry ontheline22 I thought you are installing |
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| 04:05.35 | dany | i made a script wich open firefox click a button then kill firefox befoe repeating... how can i do to run this script on another display ( i m on debian with xorg) and i use the xmacro for mouse movement |
| 04:05.42 | dany | ?? please |
| 04:06.21 | Azar | morons... I can't forget that OK city manager yelling at the IT ""I am computer literate! I have 22 years in computer systems engineering and operation. " freaking moron |
| 04:07.27 | Azar | dany wait I think the helpers are at lunch |
| 04:07.31 | GNU_Styl | when wer be etch become stable? |
| 04:07.38 | chealer9 | Azar: #offtopic? |
| 04:07.45 | Azar | GNU_Styl: thats a secret I think |
| 04:07.46 | chealer9 | !tell GNU_Styl about wwer |
| 04:08.27 | Azar | chealer9: sorry, I was thinking about suyog ... could not hold myself |
| 04:09.17 | Azar | !tell Azar about wwer |
| 04:10.28 | lordnazgul | gnu styl when its ready of course, and not before. which is one of the best things about debian |
| 04:10.30 | chealer9 | !tell Azar about selftell |
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| 04:10.39 | chealer9 | lordnazgul: he left |
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| 04:11.33 | lordnazgul | chealer oops |
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| 04:12.49 | rredd4 | Azar: what was the alsa control store command again please? |
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| 04:13.04 | dany | ok azar |
| 04:13.21 | bojbss | howdy - so it seems that running module-assistant prepare in etch results in |
| 04:13.23 | bojbss | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 04:13.23 | bojbss | E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-1-386 |
| 04:13.34 | bojbss | is there a workaround? |
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| 04:14.13 | chealer9 | bojbss: probably apt-get update |
| 04:14.19 | ontheline22 | chealer9! |
| 04:14.25 | ontheline22 | I got pppoe working |
| 04:14.29 | bojbss | been there done that, unfortunately |
| 04:14.30 | ontheline22 | but im trying to do something now |
| 04:14.45 | chealer9 | ontheline22: cool...did you get packages to install? :) |
| 04:14.52 | ontheline22 | I go apt-get update and only like 4 lines go by..that cant be right? and base-config isnt working.. |
| 04:14.57 | chealer9 | bojbss: did you try a # m-a update; ? |
| 04:14.58 | Azar | rredd4: alsactl store |
| 04:15.34 | chealer9 | ontheline22: base-config has been obsoleted since Sarge |
| 04:15.43 | ontheline22 | oh.. |
| 04:15.48 | dany | max is 2.6.8 on sarge |
| 04:15.48 | ontheline22 | well.. |
| 04:15.50 | chealer9 | ontheline22: your sources.list would be the easiest way to see |
| 04:15.51 | dany | no 2.6.12 |
| 04:15.51 | bighorn | how is clamd configured upon install in sarge? i chose daemon in the install, do i need to do anything else? |
| 04:16.01 | ontheline22 | why is it when I type apt-get update only like 4 lines go by |
| 04:16.01 | dany | i m on 2.6.15 with sid |
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| 04:16.18 | chealer9 | ontheline22: you could post your sources.list |
| 04:16.25 | rredd4 | Azar: ty, when I change users, I have to run alsaconf to get sound, did the alsactl store help that problem? |
| 04:16.28 | bojbss | chealer9: hrm... yea, doesn't change things |
| 04:16.57 | daeos | lordnazgul: thanks for the help see ya around |
| 04:17.01 | Azar | rredd4: hmmm did you do alsaconf as root (su) or as user? |
| 04:17.06 | lordnazgul | daeos did u get it working |
| 04:17.07 | rredd4 | root |
| 04:17.22 | daeos | lordnazgul: no it didn't imma check to see if editing the file helps me |
| 04:17.28 | ontheline22 | chealer9: can you give me a line to put in my sources.list? I just put ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free in it |
| 04:17.32 | Azar | rredd4: that is strange.. hmm I usually do not need to reboot, but if that would fix it... |
| 04:17.40 | chealer9 | bojbss: which kernel are you running? |
| 04:18.04 | bojbss | chealer9: 2.6.12-1-386 |
| 04:18.09 | lordnazgul | deos good luck |
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| 04:18.24 | ontheline22 | ill brb chealer.. |
| 04:18.24 | chealer9 | bojbss: is there a reason you don't run a kernel in your release? |
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| 04:18.43 | ontheline22 | chealer9: can you give me a line to put in my sources.list? I just put ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free in it |
| 04:19.02 | daeos | lordnazgul: see ya around, i'll check to see if editing the /etc/host file does anything |
| 04:19.02 | chealer9 | ontheline22: see /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list and substitute stable with testing |
| 04:19.07 | bojbss | chealer9: I'm not sure I understand... |
| 04:19.11 | Azar | rredd4: instead of reboot, before alsaconf Id do : /etc/init.d/alsa stop - do alsaconf- then when done /etc/intit.d/alsa start |
| 04:19.29 | chealer9 | bojbss: Linux 2.6.12 is not in Etch anymore. do you have Linux 2.6.15 installed? |
| 04:19.53 | bojbss | chealer9: heh, I must have installed from an old net-install CD |
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| 04:20.04 | rredd4 | Azar: my gf and her daughter would not like to run alsaconf everytime they use the computer, they would say forget it. dkpg says to do this also: 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
| 04:20.15 | rredd4 | Azar: ok |
| 04:20.29 | bojbss | chealer9: i'll upgrade - thanks for the help |
| 04:21.35 | ontheline22 | chealer9: any online sources with lines to put in? |
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| 04:22.43 | chealer9 | ontheline22: did you look at the file? "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free" would be an online source |
| 04:24.33 | rredd4 | Azar: when I did /etc/intit.d/alsa start, it said -su: /etc/intit.d/alsa: No such file or directory |
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| 04:24.47 | rredd4 | Azar: I was root |
| 04:25.09 | caffei | Is it normal for the kernel to use over two-thirds of the physical mem for cache? o_O |
| 04:25.25 | caffei | (almost 700M on a 1G system) |
| 04:25.32 | EdLin | caffei: it shrinks and grows automatically |
| 04:25.36 | useruser | caffei: yes |
| 04:25.40 | caffei | ah, ok |
| 04:25.43 | Azar | rredd4: hmmm did you installed alsa? |
| 04:25.57 | rredd4 | yes |
| 04:26.06 | rredd4 | I did like you said |
| 04:26.13 | rredd4 | /etc/init.d/alsa stop - do alsaconf- then when done /etc/intit.d/alsa start |
| 04:26.30 | Azar | rredd4: maybe that /etc/init.d/alsa start is an old way of doing it.. |
| 04:26.37 | rredd4 | maybe |
| 04:26.42 | Azar | rredd4: just reboot see how is working |
| 04:26.45 | rredd4 | the stop cmd worked |
| 04:26.49 | rredd4 | ok |
| 04:27.03 | rredd4 | poof |
| 04:27.15 | lordnazgul | rred i noticed twice you typed /etc/intit.d/alsa, are you sure you didnt type that into your console. it wouldnt work |
| 04:27.23 | lordnazgul | arghhh |
| 04:27.31 | Azar | he said "as root" |
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| 04:27.53 | lordnazgul | azar the thing i was pointing out was intit.d not init.d |
| 04:28.10 | Azar | ah :) |
| 04:28.34 | Shadowwulf | is there a way to upgrade firefox without going to the actual site and downloading it ? |
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| 04:29.02 | DeadS0ul` | apt-get upgrade firefox |
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| 04:29.15 | DeadS0ul` | but make sure you run apt-get update first |
| 04:29.18 | fenix | fodase |
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| 04:29.35 | lordnazgul | deadsoul i think the package is mozilla-firefox |
| 04:29.51 | fenix | eu nao falo ingles |
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| 04:29.56 | Azar | !br |
| 04:29.56 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 04:29.59 | DeadS0ul` | oh |
| 04:30.01 | EdLin | Shadowwulf: maybe there's a backport, search for it on apt-get.org |
| 04:30.09 | Aicarambolas | ahuahauhauahua |
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| 04:30.33 | fenix | valeu fdp |
| 04:31.46 | Aicarambolas | fenix |
| 04:31.49 | Aicarambolas | fala portugues? |
| 04:32.02 | fenix | so eu |
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| 04:32.19 | Shadowwulf | says it cant unlock it ? is another process using it ? |
| 04:32.22 | Aicarambolas | falar portugues nao aqui |
| 04:32.27 | Shadowwulf | dont have it open |
| 04:32.29 | osiris_ | http://pastebin.com/622707 <-- could anyone help me with this one? Trying to get ndiswrapper up and running on 2.6.15-1 kernel |
| 04:32.33 | osiris_ | tried several guides now, and all gives me errors |
| 04:32.47 | fenix | ninguem mais, so eu falo |
| 04:33.00 | sigma957 | does anyone know how to tell what version of glibc I have? I'm running unstable |
| 04:33.04 | Aicarambolas | eu fala pouco voce entende |
| 04:33.25 | fenix | tudinho |
| 04:33.37 | Aicarambolas | oque precisa voce? |
| 04:33.44 | loco | Somebody help me with APT? I want to add as a new source, one site that has some .deb packages, how do I insert it directly on sources.list file/ deb http://my.link.to.files/here/are/the/packages (and here what I put?) |
| 04:33.47 | lordnazgul | sigma just search in aptitude the columns on the left tell you the installed version and the newest version available |
| 04:33.57 | lordnazgul | sigma i meant right |
| 04:34.11 | fenix | preciso instalar plugins para superig |
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| 04:34.19 | Azar | lordnazgul: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/concise-apt-get-dpkg-primer-for-new.html |
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| 04:34.33 | Azar | sorry: that was for loco: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/concise-apt-get-dpkg-primer-for-new.html |
| 04:34.42 | loco | thanks Azar |
| 04:34.57 | chealer9 | sigma957: ugh. before doing that, consider reinstalling a sane release. you may need experience to deal with unstable |
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| 04:35.21 | stoned | I am having a problem installing a package. dpkg output is here --> http://pastebin.com/622714 Its trying to overwrite files that are installed by some other package etc. How does one fix a situation like this? |
| 04:35.28 | sigma957 | actually, there is no package named glibc. since a recent upgrade, my xfce4 panel keeps crashing with a *** free(): invalid pointer error |
| 04:35.50 | sigma957 | chealer, I'm experienced with unstable, used it for about 2 years now |
| 04:36.41 | Shadowwulf | anybody ? |
| 04:36.46 | chealer9 | stoned: what's that deb? |
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| 04:36.52 | Azar | loco the sources are found in /etc/apt the file you will edit is called sources.list and here is a sample of source for the stable (you can replace it with testing or unstable): |
| 04:36.56 | Azar | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 04:36.56 | Azar | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 04:37.07 | stoned | bittorrent.com'c client |
| 04:37.16 | chealer9 | Shadowwulf: of course. just use APT |
| 04:37.23 | lordnazgul | stoned do you already have a bittorrent client installed? |
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| 04:37.40 | Shadowwulf | i have ... i just got the error above |
| 04:37.47 | loco | Azar: in fact, I want to add an not official repository, and I don't know what to put instead of 'stable main non-free contrib' |
| 04:37.52 | chealer9 | sigma957: *cough* glibc is a source package *cough* |
| 04:38.04 | Azar | loco holdon I will ask dpkg |
| 04:38.18 | loco | Azar: ok |
| 04:38.25 | stoned | lordnazgul, forget its a torrent client. Its just a package, which is trying to overwrite a file installed by a second packge. How does one install the new package and try to get past this error |
| 04:38.30 | Azar | loco in here: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 04:38.32 | loco | Azar: I think I found |
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| 04:38.57 | sigma957 | chealer9: why is it giving me errors then? I've never directly installed glibc |
| 04:39.31 | lordnazgul | stoned, no its kool that its a torrent client i dont care, my point in asking was you would have to remove the other client before you installed this one to get past the error |
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| 04:39.35 | chealer9 | sigma957: glibc/libc6 is a required package |
| 04:39.53 | sigma957 | ah libc6, that's the name |
| 04:41.00 | erf | Hi, I seem to suffering problems with postfix-tls package, it spouts and error of some kind |
| 04:41.28 | erf | postfix-tls: Depends: postfix but it is not going to be installed |
| 04:41.29 | erf | Depends: postfix (= 2.1.5-9) but it is not going to be installed |
| 04:41.29 | Shadowwulf | so is there no way to upgrade,update firefox ? |
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| 04:42.02 | yos87 | hi |
| 04:42.06 | lordnazgul | shadowwulf '#apt-get update' followed by '#apt-get upgrade mozilla-firefox' |
| 04:42.09 | stoned | lordnazgul, I appreciate your halfassed effort, thanks. I got it |
| 04:42.26 | chealer9 | osiris_: when does that happen? |
| 04:42.29 | lordnazgul | stoned no need to be rude i was trying to help |
| 04:42.53 | stoned | I wasn't being rude, I was thanking you |
| 04:43.30 | osiris_ | chealer9: http://pastebin.com/622720 |
| 04:43.36 | osiris_ | trying that guide.. |
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| 04:44.23 | |valinux|xbm-x| | well i din't know where to find a good linux chat i got this one do anyone here knows a really good linux i can install? |
| 04:44.25 | Shadowwulf | didnt work |
| 04:44.44 | lordnazgul | valinux i would recommend debian ;) |
| 04:44.58 | chealer9 | osiris_: you're trying to build a ndiswrapper kernel module? |
| 04:45.05 | |valinux|xbm-x| | do you know where i can get debian? |
| 04:45.07 | osiris_ | chealer9: yes |
| 04:45.16 | yos87 | all my icon in the desktop is lost, if somebody know why it happen, please help me! |
| 04:45.36 | chealer9 | osiris_: aren't you supposed to use m-a to do that? |
| 04:45.50 | |valinux|xbm-x| | where can i get debian? |
| 04:45.57 | Aicarambolas | google |
| 04:46.03 | chealer9 | Shadowwulf: yes, there's a way to upgrade it |
| 04:46.10 | osiris_ | chealer9: tried useing module-assistant auto-install ndiswrapper also, gives me same error there |
| 04:46.13 | |valinux|xbm-x| | what is the new V of debian? |
| 04:46.23 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| go to www.cheapbytes.com |
| 04:46.36 | Shadowwulf | ok ... so whats the way ? other then downloading it and just running it separate |
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| 04:46.47 | yos87 | debian sarg r1t is last one |
| 04:47.14 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : windows user? |
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| 04:48.05 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yes windows user and i'm sick of beelp beelp errors |
| 04:48.12 | chealer9 | osiris_: do you have a linux headers package installed? |
| 04:48.29 | chealer9 | Shadowwulf: which release do you run? |
| 04:48.55 | chealer9 | !tell |valinux|xbm-x| about install debian |
| 04:49.02 | osiris_ | chealer9: yes, and it keep complaing about a make file tehre it cant find, but its defently there, and also gotten from apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 04:49.16 | RazaMetaL | hi |
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| 04:49.40 | |valinux|xbm-x| | where can i download debian from? |
| 04:49.50 | Shadowwulf | its running 1.07 right now .. i prefer 1.5 |
| 04:49.59 | RazaMetaL | my sounds card is giving me choppy audio |
| 04:50.26 | RazaMetaL | if i put the mixer on mute the choppy noise is in background |
| 04:50.43 | xsdg | Shadowwulf: first, `apt-cache policy mozilla-firefox` |
| 04:50.44 | lordnazgul | valinux debian.org is a good place to start. there is also plenty of documentation there to help walk you through the install |
| 04:50.50 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 04:50.58 | xsdg | Shadowwulf: that will tell you what's available in the repositories you have in your sources.list |
| 04:51.12 | chealer9 | osiris_: I don't know. the ndiswrapper package looks fairly buggy |
| 04:51.20 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : what connection do you have? |
| 04:51.33 | chealer9 | Shadowwulf: which Debian release do you use? |
| 04:51.37 | osiris_ | chealer9: need it to get the damn wireless nic up and running on my laptop :/ |
| 04:51.39 | Shadowwulf | it says 1.0.7.1 |
| 04:51.55 | osiris_ | chealer9: oh well I will keep trying |
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| 04:51.59 | xsdg | Shadowwulf: how about just "firefox"? (instead of "mozilla-firefox") |
| 04:52.03 | Shadowwulf | the newest one |
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| 04:52.08 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yos87: 4M |
| 04:52.08 | chealer9 | Shadowwulf: you're running Debian Etch? |
| 04:52.10 | lordnazgul | osiris it wouldnt happen to be based off the atheros chipset would it |
| 04:52.16 | Shadowwulf | dont think so |
| 04:52.17 | chealer9 | osiris_: sorry |
| 04:52.26 | xsdg | Shadowwulf: it says the newest one as "Candidate"? |
| 04:52.26 | Shadowwulf | think im using sarge ? |
| 04:52.28 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : so download the full one |
| 04:52.39 | chealer9 | Shadowwulf: it would be good to know that for sure |
| 04:52.45 | CuteAlien | hi, maybe stupid question, but a few minutes ago i had suddenly the following process running: su nobody -s /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/find / -ignore_readdir_race |
| 04:52.45 | CuteAlien | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.45 | CuteAlien | fstype autofs -o -fstype iso9660 -o -fstype ncpfs -o -fstype coda -o -fstype devpts -o -fstype ftpfs -o -fstype devfs -o -fsty |
| 04:52.45 | CuteAlien | pe mfs -o -fstype shfs -o -fstype sysfs -o -fstype cifs -o -fstype lustre_lite -o -fstype tmpfs -o -fstype usbfs -o -fstype ud |
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| 04:52.47 | Shadowwulf | how do i find out ? |
| 04:52.51 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yos87: 16 cds?? |
| 04:52.56 | kd | anyone else found mysql 5.0 from testing tempramental? Like crashing in a creative manner? |
| 04:52.58 | xsdg | Shadowwulf: apt-cache policy firefox |
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| 04:53.03 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : 14 |
| 04:53.03 | chealer9 | Shadowwulf: try $ cat /etc/debian_version |
| 04:53.04 | xsdg | CuteAlien: that's normal |
| 04:53.06 | CuteAlien | sorry |
| 04:53.13 | xsdg | CuteAlien: it runs in cron.daily |
| 04:53.14 | CuteAlien | didn't expect it to be so long :( |
| 04:53.41 | ontheline22 | chealer9: look, I did apt-get update, and it installed something..I just want to know what to type to get a working kde desktop..im stuck at this black screen here |
| 04:53.46 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : just download the i386 inst, and you can download the other package later |
| 04:53.49 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yod87: full CD sets |
| 04:53.51 | CuteAlien | xsdg, thanks |
| 04:53.54 | Shadowwulf | testing/unstable |
| 04:53.56 | xsdg | CuteAlien: np |
| 04:53.59 | chealer9 | ontheline22: see #debian-kde |
| 04:54.14 | xsdg | Shadowwulf: what doe `apt-cache policy firefox` say next to "Candidate:"? |
| 04:54.22 | SonnyBurnett | hi, which is the equivalent "kdesu" command on gnome? |
| 04:54.24 | Shadowwulf | 1.0.7.1 |
| 04:54.34 | DeadS0ul` | chealer9: do apt-get kde x-window-system-core |
| 04:54.35 | ontheline22 | chealer9: do you know any websites? I dont expect anyone in this room to respond |
| 04:54.41 | DeadS0ul` | chealer9: do apt-get install kde x-window-system-core ...even |
| 04:54.54 | xsdg | Shadowwulf: try running `apt-get update` as root |
| 04:54.55 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yos87: netinst CD image? |
| 04:54.56 | chealer9 | ontheline22: the /topic will refer you to a FAQ |
| 04:55.06 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : yes |
| 04:55.11 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : 140 mb |
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| 04:55.20 | chealer9 | Shadowwulf: so I guess you run testing. Firefox 1.5 is not in testing for now, but could be expected to enter it this week |
| 04:55.51 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yos87: lol 50% that was fast |
| 04:56.07 | ontheline22 | and after I get working kde I can go into the terminal from there and apt-get install mozilla, xchat, stuff? |
| 04:56.11 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : where you are? |
| 04:56.19 | Shadowwulf | some index files failed to download they have been ignored or old ones used instaead |
| 04:56.21 | xsdg | Shadowwulf: yeah, what chealer9 said is correct |
| 04:56.22 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yos87: FL |
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| 04:56.29 | chealer9 | ontheline22: sure |
| 04:56.35 | Shadowwulf | ahhh |
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| 04:56.50 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : do you know how to burn ISO |
| 04:56.51 | Shadowwulf | even though i can download it ? and use it as normal ? |
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| 04:57.18 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yos87: burn iso ya! |
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| 04:58.27 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yos87: i had debian long time i don't remember how to install it i hope i don't get errors |
| 04:59.51 | Shadowwulf | so i guess it has a little lag time ..... even though you can go to the site and get firefox for linux right now ./.... they want a little longer to put it in there sites ? |
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| 05:00.14 | Shadowwulf | im meaning the apt-get sites |
| 05:02.23 | |valinux|xbm-x| | rebooting brb |
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| 05:08.12 | ontheline22 | chealer9: ok, what the hell..I started it, and it was going pretty slow, saying it'd take like a day...after 10 mins I was at like 3% |
| 05:08.27 | ontheline22 | after running apt-get install kde x-window-system-core |
| 05:09.24 | ontheline22 | :/ |
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| 05:10.31 | ontheline22 | chealer9? |
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| 05:10.55 | TML | Anyone know a good console font that can display iso-8859-1 characters such as à ? |
| 05:11.04 | goldenaura | Hi. I have to install Debian Sarge, using 2 hds, and i will do RAID1. What is the best filesystem to use with this setup? EXT3, XFS, JFS... |
| 05:11.12 | ontheline22 | EXT3 |
| 05:11.37 | goldenaura | i also feel it is the more stable, hard as a rock |
| 05:11.40 | goldenaura | but i want to be sure |
| 05:11.49 | ontheline22 | yep, a rock. |
| 05:11.52 | ontheline22 | ;) |
| 05:11.57 | TML | I prefer XFS myself. |
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| 05:12.09 | goldenaura | maybe it is a little bit slower, but i dont need speed, i need stability |
| 05:12.13 | ontheline22 | No you thnk you prefer it |
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| 05:12.18 | ontheline22 | but you really like ext3 |
| 05:12.22 | ontheline22 | lol |
| 05:12.22 | goldenaura | :D |
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| 05:12.23 | TML | ontheline22: Not really, no. |
| 05:12.28 | niaht | I'm a big fan of reiserfs :) |
| 05:12.33 | |valinux|xbm-x| | how do i install debian from floppy? |
| 05:12.35 | ontheline22 | TML: oh, I dont know.. |
| 05:12.54 | TML | ontheline22: Ah, but see, I *do* know. |
| 05:12.58 | ontheline22 | ok, what the hell..I started it, and it was going pretty slow, saying it'd take like a day...after 10 mins I was at like 3% |
| 05:13.05 | ontheline22 | does that supposed to take so long? |
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| 05:13.11 | yos87 | peterS: Hi |
| 05:13.17 | goldenaura | thanks for the support |
| 05:13.28 | cunzhang | |valinux|xbm-x|,debian reference |
| 05:14.02 | |valinux|xbm-x| | no no |
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| 05:14.25 | ontheline22 | can anyone show me a link for a good source.list for debian testing? |
| 05:14.33 | |valinux|xbm-x| | how do i unzip the debian installer to the floppy |
| 05:14.47 | |valinux|xbm-x| | like boot.img |
| 05:14.59 | cunzhang | |valinux|xbm-x|,http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 05:15.05 | niaht | |valinux|xbm-x|: dd |
| 05:15.29 | |valinux|xbm-x| | how do i burn boot.img to a floppy?? |
| 05:15.49 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : why you want to burn to floppy? |
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| 05:16.15 | niaht | Honestly, it smells terrible. |
| 05:16.26 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yos87: i got an error when i try to install it from the cd |
| 05:16.37 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : what error? |
| 05:16.50 | cunzhang | |valinux|xbm-x|,http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s03.html |
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| 05:16.57 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yos87: cd formating something like that id remember |
| 05:18.42 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : did you try nero |
| 05:19.25 | jetscreamer | dd if=floppy.img of=/dev/fd0 |
| 05:19.34 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yos87: i use Alcohol 120% its way better |
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| 05:20.57 | johhny_b | help me out a bit, i have just configured a imap server on my router, now what it does it that it gets the mail from my pop3 accout at (example:) ~hotmail now when i send a email to myself it says it comes from username@localhostname.localdomain |
| 05:21.01 | johhny_b | i dont want it to say localhostname.localdomain but i want it to have the original pop3 account name |
| 05:21.08 | johhny_b | what would i be looking at doing? |
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| 05:23.32 | yos87 | |valinux|xbm-x| : try to read the debian installation guide |
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| 05:23.53 | |valinux|xbm-x| | yos87: ok |
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| 05:25.24 | pieman | hello |
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| 05:26.10 | ontheline22 | how long on average should apt-get install kde x-window-system-core take?????????? |
| 05:26.16 | m1ke_l | when booting to install cd and picking rescue, can i point to the install on the /dev/sd drive? |
| 05:26.34 | m1ke_l | what is syntax? can't seem to get it right |
| 05:26.52 | SonnyBurnett | hi, how do I know If I have mounted sysfs and libsensors? |
| 05:26.58 | ontheline22 | how long on average should apt-get install kde x-window-system-core take? |
| 05:27.10 | m1ke_l | ontheline22: what is your net connection speed? |
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| 05:27.24 | jetscreamer | kde is 1 or 200 megs probably |
| 05:27.28 | m1ke_l | is it "stuck" somewhere? is it down the download phase? |
| 05:27.28 | ontheline22 | m1ke_1: normal broadband I guess |
| 05:27.41 | m1ke_l | is it scrolling or stopped? |
| 05:27.58 | ontheline22 | m1ke_1: so how long on average broadband? |
| 05:28.10 | jetscreamer | if it's stuck you can ctrl+c it and just start over... you won't lose anything you already d/l'd |
| 05:28.11 | m1ke_l | not sure....1/2 hour? maybe? |
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| 05:28.23 | m1ke_l | never done just those 2 before |
| 05:28.27 | m1ke_l | whydo you ask? |
| 05:28.32 | ontheline22 | is it normal for it to start off slow? because after 5 mins I was at like 1-2% |
| 05:29.00 | jetscreamer | try stopping it and starting over, and if that doesn't speed things up use apt-spy |
| 05:29.01 | m1ke_l | just stop it and start it again |
| 05:29.10 | ontheline22 | what's apt-spy? |
| 05:29.10 | jetscreamer | !tell ontheline22 -about apt-spy |
| 05:29.55 | jetscreamer | but sometimes just stopping it and starting it again will speed things up for me |
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| 05:30.30 | ontheline22 | If I shut down when it was 3%, and I start again, will it screw anything up? |
| 05:30.47 | jetscreamer | i said no you won't lose anything you already d/l'd |
| 05:30.54 | ontheline22 | ok |
| 05:30.57 | ontheline22 | so I run |
| 05:31.17 | jetscreamer | you would need to apt-get install apt-spy first, then do what the bot said |
| 05:31.44 | ontheline22 | apt-get install apt-spy, apt-spy update, apt-spy -d testing, apt-spy -a NOrth-america |
| 05:31.58 | jetscreamer | but do try stopping and restarting your current d/l first |
| 05:31.58 | ontheline22 | and then ill run kde x-system blahblah? |
| 05:32.10 | ontheline22 | ok |
| 05:32.15 | ontheline22 | thx for the help d00d |
| 05:32.16 | ontheline22 | lol |
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| 05:36.50 | esozla | the screen freezes after the line "Allocating PCI resources..." during boot-up. where's the problem? |
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| 05:38.32 | esozla | am i in or out? |
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| 05:45.04 | rredd4 | need help please... the only time that I have sound is to run alsaconf. I have 3 users and I have to run alsaconf each time I log into their account. What do I need to do to fix this? |
| 05:45.15 | SonnyBurnett | hi, can you help me how to reduce a logical volume? I dont understand the value XXXX in this command: # resize2fs /dev/myvg/homevol XXXXX, what represents XXXXX ?? |
| 05:48.32 | rredd4 | also, when my gr logs into sarge, sometimes the display will show a black bar on the top or side. This is not happening in my log in. I have to reboot to fix it. but it comes back sometimes. Any ideas what to do? I am using I810 |
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| 05:48.48 | rredd4 | gr=gf |
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| 05:52.07 | liable | rredd4: before you run alsaconf, are the sound modules loaded? if not, add them to /etc/modules |
| 05:52.47 | rredd4 | liable: how do I check if they are? |
| 05:52.54 | liable | rredd4: lsmod |
| 05:52.59 | rredd4 | k |
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| 05:53.50 | Noboru | what does ALTER TABLE `forum` ADD `gallery` |
| 05:53.51 | Noboru | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.03 | Noboru | i mean that `forum` |
| 05:54.29 | rredd4 | !pastebin |
| 05:54.30 | dpkg | from memory, pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/, or check out http://securelabs.zapto.org/~pureone/src/pastebin.c if your stuck in console only |
| 05:54.32 | dbindner_ | It looks like SQL for adding a new column to a table in a database. |
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| 05:54.58 | powder | Should I remove root from sudoers? |
| 05:55.05 | Noboru | dbindner_, i see,but how do i know what 'table' i should use from that example sentence ? |
| 05:56.34 | rredd4 | liable: http://pastebin.ca/46998 |
| 05:56.39 | rredd4 | please |
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| 05:57.58 | liable | rredd4: thats before running alsaconf? |
| 05:58.27 | rredd4 | I don't think so..?? |
| 05:58.54 | rredd4 | how to stop alsa |
| 05:59.13 | liable | rredd4: reboot, and see if those modules are there before you run alsaconf. |
| 05:59.24 | rredd4 | ok |
| 05:59.27 | rredd4 | brb |
| 06:00.12 | npx | Is there an imagemagick channel? #imagemagick is empty |
| 06:00.41 | liable | whats the question? |
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| 06:01.00 | npx | I want to give a bunch of images a gradient to white beginning at a diagonal line from the top left corner to the bottom right corner of a bunch of gifs |
| 06:01.05 | npx | redundance. |
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| 06:02.23 | liable | ooh. yeah, no idea :) |
| 06:02.38 | npx | hehe |
| 06:02.42 | npx | well thanks for listening |
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| 06:02.56 | redd4 | !pastebin |
| 06:02.56 | dpkg | hmm... pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/, or check out http://securelabs.zapto.org/~pureone/src/pastebin.c if your stuck in console only |
| 06:02.57 | npx | ill ask in gimp |
| 06:03.07 | liable | yeah, good bet. |
| 06:05.32 | redd4 | liable: http://pastebin.ca/47002 |
| 06:06.19 | redd4 | liable: I did not do alsaconf, and I am in as a different user |
| 06:06.25 | dbindner_ | Well, the table in your sentence is forum and the column you are adding is gallery. |
| 06:06.55 | redd4 | liable: I have no sound as this user |
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| 06:07.59 | nadim | I'm upgrading from woody to sarge and I'm seeing an apt-get error --> '/var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: /var/log/wtmp: Input/output error dpkg: error processing base-files (--configure):' -- any ideas ? |
| 06:08.02 | liable | redd4: hrm. all modules are loaded.. what happens if you cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp |
| 06:08.41 | liable | nadim: have you had a read of the upgrade guide? |
| 06:09.22 | grulic | im puzzled trying to make work an external zip 250 (par port) drive |
| 06:09.28 | grulic | any ideas? |
| 06:09.40 | liable | !woody->sarge |
| 06:09.40 | nadim | liable: where is that guide - though I've upgraded a number of other machines without issue... |
| 06:09.51 | liable | !woody -> sarge |
| 06:10.02 | nadim | huh? |
| 06:10.08 | liable | bleh, its on the debian site somewhere.. |
| 06:10.12 | redd4 | liable: nothing, the cursor goes to the left side and I have to control z to get out of it |
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| 06:10.36 | grulic | mh,? |
| 06:10.40 | liable | nadim: it suggests using aptitude and also removing any backports if you have them iirc |
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| 06:11.13 | liable | redd4: hrm. lsof /dev/dsp ?? |
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| 06:11.32 | relis | can someone help me? I just installed amsn, and whenever I try to start it an error comes up saying 'Unable to get a socket from localhost, check your etc/hosts file please' |
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| 06:11.37 | relis | Whats wrong with it? |
| 06:12.38 | relis | ? |
| 06:12.38 | liable | make sure localhost is in the first line of that file (along with the other entries) |
| 06:12.56 | redd4 | liable: COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME esd 4512 linda 5w CHR 14,3 5640 /dev/dsp |
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| 06:13.45 | liable | redd4: no, i said lsof, but ok. try killing esd. |
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| 06:14.32 | relis | wth..now none of my file managers are coming up.. |
| 06:14.37 | nadim | liable: I can't install aptitude, I get the same 'base-files' error |
| 06:15.14 | liable | nadim: ok. try removing the affected package and continue the upgrade? |
| 06:15.21 | redd4 | liable: I copy, pasted your command and thats what I got. when I did "kill esd" it said no such pid |
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| 06:15.33 | SM7X | hi there |
| 06:15.48 | SM7X | i wanted to make some static binaries |
| 06:15.53 | SM7X | for example my pybnc |
| 06:16.03 | SM7X | which i can take to any sort of linux |
| 06:16.06 | nadim | liable: if I remove 'core-files' the entire disk wants to be removed and it is noted as an exteremly dangerous thing to do - meaning I shouldn't do it |
| 06:16.15 | SM7X | i found something thats statifier and i found a bit about static linking |
| 06:16.18 | nadim | s/core-files/base-files |
| 06:16.24 | SM7X | and read but it didnt worked for me as i wanted |
| 06:16.30 | relis | liable: you remember my question from ealier? |
| 06:16.31 | liable | nadim: heh, you cant remove it actually. |
| 06:16.41 | relis | liable: here's my hosts file |
| 06:16.47 | relis | 127.0.0.1localhost |
| 06:16.47 | relis | 127.0.1.1Zasr |
| 06:16.48 | relis | # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts |
| 06:16.48 | relis | ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback |
| 06:16.49 | relis | fe00::0 ip6-localnet |
| 06:16.49 | relis | ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix |
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| 06:17.05 | nadim | liable: so what should I do ? |
| 06:17.17 | relis | liable: so what is going wrong? |
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| 06:18.09 | liable | nadim: hrm, looks like a sticky one. try running the script by hand and see if you get anymore info out of it. |
| 06:18.25 | liable | relis: does lo show in ifconfig -a? |
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| 06:18.49 | relis | does what show in what? |
| 06:18.58 | relis | ugh, sorry, this is my first debian box |
| 06:19.03 | nadim | liable: I get - /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: /var/log/wtmp: Input/output error |
| 06:19.12 | nadim | not sure what that means btw |
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| 06:20.05 | redd4 | !seen lorenz |
| 06:20.05 | dpkg | lorenz <n=lorenz@host194-52.pool8256.interbusiness.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 10h 30m 29s ago, saying: 'how to activate scsi emulation for xcdroast?'. |
| 06:20.22 | liable | nadim: input/output leads me to think disk problem, but whats the perms on that file? |
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| 06:20.26 | relis | liable: ? :( |
| 06:21.04 | liable | relis: learn to have patience. i am not on your payroll.. |
| 06:21.21 | relis | liable: ... |
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| 06:26.19 | liable | nadim: or do a read only check for starters. |
| 06:26.32 | nadim | liable: how do you do that ? |
| 06:26.51 | liable | nadim: dont make me read the man page. :) |
| 06:27.00 | nadim | hehe |
| 06:27.10 | nadim | -N ? |
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| 06:28.20 | liable | fsck.ext2 -n |
| 06:28.20 | nadim | actually I don't see a readonly option |
| 06:29.02 | nadim | says clean |
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| 06:29.15 | nadim | /dev/hda4: clean, 7687/2015232 files, 182593/4028298 blocks |
| 06:29.45 | nadim | btw - do I need a specific kernel to do this ? |
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| 06:29.51 | liable | nadim: bugger. try moving the file and remaking it. i am not sure what that log is actually for, so dont delete it. |
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| 06:30.15 | nadim | I'll try to move it - not sure how to remake it :-) |
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| 06:30.26 | liable | nadim: touch |
| 06:30.31 | redd4 | liable: the cat command does not work, and no sound from an app |
| 06:30.37 | liable | redd4: um, i am buggered if i know. |
| 06:30.39 | wmhtet | debian derivative |
| 06:30.42 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:30.53 | nadim | mv: cannot stat `wtmp': Input/output error |
| 06:30.55 | wmhtet | where is dpkg? |
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| 06:32.04 | liable | nadim: hrm. doesnt bode well. try a real fsck. you will have to umount it. really sounds like disk errors. |
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| 06:32.57 | nadim | device is busy... which deamons should I look out for to kill 'em |
| 06:33.12 | redd4 | liable: you mean that you are unsure what else to do? ok, then ty! |
| 06:33.17 | redd4 | for your help |
| 06:33.48 | liable | nadim: kerneld, syslogd, prolly apache, mta.. |
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| 06:33.51 | redd4 | liable: its got me stumped.. |
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| 06:34.26 | liable | redd4: funny, cause the modules are loaded, and all alsaconf does is unload all snd modules and reload. |
| 06:34.46 | liable | redd4: i guess, try modprobe -r snd-intel8x0 |
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| 06:35.15 | redd4 | liable: FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use. |
| 06:35.54 | nadim | liable: what about yp/nis ? |
| 06:36.10 | redd4 | liable: there must be some other module running as well? |
| 06:36.26 | liable | redd4: something has it tied up. sec. |
| 06:36.31 | redd4 | ok |
| 06:36.51 | liable | nadim: dunno. keep killing shit that logs :) |
| 06:37.28 | nadim | hehehee |
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| 06:38.51 | liable | redd4: lsof /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p |
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| 06:39.41 | redd4 | liable: ok, no errors |
| 06:39.50 | liable | redd4: no output? |
| 06:40.15 | redd4 | nothing |
| 06:40.34 | liable | redd4: lsof /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c |
| 06:41.04 | redd4 | nothing |
| 06:41.45 | liable | redd4: outta ideas :( |
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| 06:41.58 | redd4 | ok, ty! |
| 06:42.01 | nadim | liable: will I be able to reboot with /var commected out from my fstab ? |
| 06:42.02 | signature16 | how do install video codecs like xvid/divx? |
| 06:42.14 | nadim | s/commected/commented |
| 06:42.14 | liable | !w32codecs |
| 06:42.15 | dpkg | somebody said w32codecs was a package, not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues, that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway |
| 06:42.36 | orco | does anyone know of a good how to for debian and pentium D |
| 06:42.46 | orco | i'm only seeing 1 cpu.. should be 2 right |
| 06:42.50 | redd4 | liable: I will just have to alsaconf each time until I get if fixed. |
| 06:42.53 | redd4 | ty |
| 06:42.55 | liable | signature16: get it from christian marillats site |
| 06:43.12 | signature16 | liable: link? |
| 06:43.26 | liable | redd4: there have been a few people with that problem, and funnily, i dont recall anyone having a fix for it.. :( |
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| 06:43.44 | liable | !tell signature16 about marillat |
| 06:44.08 | redd4 | signature16: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main |
| 06:44.25 | powder | orco: apt-get install linux-image-686-smp |
| 06:44.30 | liable | orco: you need an smp kernel for dual cpu shits |
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| 06:45.02 | unstable | How do I find out who the maintainer of a project is? |
| 06:45.08 | redd4 | liable: ok, should I use a different sound driver then? |
| 06:45.09 | BullWeivel | alright...i got one for you. Two different machines... both have the SAME sources.list One one when i do apt-cache search webmin i see results... the other doesn't show any results. Any ideas why ????? |
| 06:45.20 | liable | unstable: ap-cache show pkg |
| 06:45.28 | liable | apt.. |
| 06:45.30 | wmhtet | where can I learn more about dpkg chatbot? |
| 06:45.45 | orco | apt-get mmm 686 versus 386? |
| 06:46.07 | wmhtet | are the dpkg replies under GNU license? :) |
| 06:46.27 | orco | thankyou liable |
| 06:46.30 | orco | and powder |
| 06:46.51 | orco | i'm always confused about the difference between 386 and 686 |
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| 06:46.58 | wmhtet | tell me more about dpkg |
| 06:47.09 | SM7X | man dpkg |
| 06:47.10 | SM7X | :P |
| 06:47.11 | SM7X | ^^ |
| 06:47.18 | liable | orco: there is no -386 smp kernel. use apt-cache search to find one, and sarge kernels are kernel-image-foo, etch and sid are linux-image-foo |
| 06:47.24 | chealer9 | wmhtet: GNU isn't a license. dpkg's factoids don't have a license |
| 06:47.37 | liable | wmhtet: /msg dpkg help, or join #debian-bots and play |
| 06:47.39 | wmhtet | ok |
| 06:47.47 | orco | thankyou, liable |
| 06:48.17 | powder | orco, 386 is for old processors. it's still around for compatibility. current pentiums use 686 architecture. |
| 06:48.20 | nadim | isn't there a way to list what is using a parition if I'm looking to umount that drive ? |
| 06:48.27 | redd4 | liable: ok, should I use a different sound driver then? |
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| 06:48.35 | orco | cool, i had no idea... |
| 06:48.49 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.56 | liable | redd4: no, theres only the one for your chipset. (unless you want to use deprecated oss) |
| 06:49.10 | liable | !your factoids |
| 06:49.11 | dpkg | My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. there is a searchable database of my factoids at http://dpkg.vireo.org/ |
| 06:49.24 | liable | wmhtet: ^^ a coplete list of the factoids. |
| 06:49.31 | BullWeivel | any ideas on why one box i would get different apt-cache search results then another ??? |
| 06:49.39 | wmhtet | thx liable |
| 06:49.44 | BullWeivel | both have the same sources.list |
| 06:49.49 | SM7X | yes |
| 06:49.51 | orco | so in sense its better to use 686... i've been using 386 on my pentiumM |
| 06:49.53 | orco | crap |
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| 06:49.58 | liable | BullWeivel: *exactly*? |
| 06:50.06 | SM7X | in the sources.list is described which servers you can search with apt-cache search |
| 06:50.10 | SM7X | and which packages it finds |
| 06:50.24 | powder | orco, use 686 unless you experience problems |
| 06:50.28 | BullWeivel | liable: yep... i copy/pasted them. |
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| 06:50.47 | orco | i swear this chat rocks. i learn so much here |
| 06:51.03 | liable | BullWeivel: strange. update both and try again. |
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| 06:51.49 | orco | curiously anybody set up a SLI nvidia gaming setup? |
| 06:51.57 | BullWeivel | liable: yeah i already did that. |
| 06:52.31 | SM7X | orco uhh never gamed on linux ^^ |
| 06:52.37 | SM7X | i heard cadega is kewl? |
| 06:52.39 | orco | yes |
| 06:52.39 | SM7X | did anyone test it? |
| 06:52.42 | orco | it works well |
| 06:52.46 | orco | so does wine |
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| 06:52.58 | orco | CounterStrike-source |
| 06:53.03 | orco | WOW |
| 06:53.25 | orco | i'm on a pc i'm setting up for my bro |
| 06:53.31 | SM7X | which version do you have? |
| 06:53.33 | orco | introducing him t linux |
| 06:53.36 | orco | cedega? |
| 06:53.42 | SM7X | i am keen on trying it too |
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| 06:53.49 | orco | i think the latest is 4.5.... |
| 06:53.52 | SM7X | cause i wont to get rid of windows more and more |
| 06:53.59 | redd4 | liable: dpkg says: alsa-checklist "arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded?" any of this a cause? |
| 06:54.41 | SM7X | orco no its cedega-5.1 |
| 06:54.48 | SM7X | but i didnt test it yet |
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| 06:54.53 | SM7X | only using linux for servers not on my desk |
| 06:55.00 | orco | i'll only run window on linux.... |
| 06:55.04 | nadim | liable: fyi - to find out what is using a drive/partition one can use 'fuser -mv /var' |
| 06:55.04 | SM7X | :D |
| 06:55.05 | orco | aah |
| 06:55.08 | SM7X | i use windows and linux |
| 06:55.09 | liable | redd4: ps aux |grep esd (you killed this previously, so shouldnt be there) and you shouldnt have artsd running if you use gnome. and i didnt see any oss modules in you lsmod output. |
| 06:55.14 | SM7X | dont want to use only one os |
| 06:55.24 | SM7X | i mix em all up and take the best out of each |
| 06:55.33 | redd4 | ok |
| 06:55.41 | orco | well i'm completely free of the curse of MS but that's b/c of apps like adobe premier |
| 06:55.53 | liable | redd4: but check for both artsd and esd |
| 06:56.03 | SM7X | orco adobe premiere macromedia studio and so on |
| 06:56.07 | SM7X | these are nice tool |
| 06:56.17 | redd4 | liable: root 4753 0.0 0.0 1548 476 pts/0 R+ 22:55 0:00 grep esd |
| 06:56.20 | SM7X | and also most portableapps for ipod and so on are better under windows |
| 06:56.27 | SM7X | i wanted to create some portable tools for linux |
| 06:56.30 | redd4 | did the ps command |
| 06:56.30 | SM7X | but i dont get it |
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| 06:56.36 | nadim | liable: so I umounted /var and ran 'fsck' on it 'fsck /dev/hda4' and it says its clean - now what ? |
| 06:56.39 | liable | redd4: thats ok. |
| 06:56.45 | orco | don't use ipod |
| 06:56.47 | SM7X | i read that you have to compile EVERY lib you will link statically, statically before |
| 06:56.47 | orco | i have a zaurus |
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| 06:56.59 | SM7X | :) |
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| 06:57.10 | liable | nadim: i dont know. ask again when smarter people are here :) |
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| 06:57.46 | liable | wtf? |
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| 06:58.33 | liable | in what way? |
| 06:59.09 | SM7X | orco can you short query me? |
| 06:59.12 | SM7X | i got something for you |
| 06:59.13 | LoneWlf | so, I've just upgraded my kernel from 2.4.30 to 2.6.8, the old version is custom the current one is the vanilla from the package tree... my openswan installation worked on the previous one, and it still builds its link, but only icmp traffic is forwarding on the link... help help? |
| 06:59.32 | liable | nadim: so, you cant do anything with that log file?? checked the perms (dunno what would stop dpkg writing to it though) |
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| 06:59.58 | orco | how |
| 07:00.10 | nadim | ok - here goes again - I'm trying to upgrade from woody to sarge and I'm getting the following error -- '/var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.postinst: /var/log/wtmp: Input/output error' - the file /var/log/wtmp exists but I can't seem to mv/rm or do anything to it, the partition is fsck clean --- any ideas on how to proceed ? |
| 07:00.34 | nadim | liable: I can only 'ls' it - can't get 'ls -lF' to work on it for instance, etc. |
| 07:00.37 | orco | shortquery, select * from S3M73X; |
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| 07:05.10 | BullWeivel | so .. apt-cache search uses the sources.list to search for results right ????? |
| 07:05.17 | S3M73X | yes |
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| 07:05.27 | BullWeivel | does it cache anywhere ?? |
| 07:05.37 | S3M73X | not sure |
| 07:05.39 | S3M73X | but think so |
| 07:05.46 | S3M73X | because it searches that fast |
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| 07:05.55 | S3M73X | oh yes it does |
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| 07:06.01 | S3M73X | apt-get update |
| 07:06.06 | S3M73X | updates your package-database |
| 07:06.11 | S3M73X | and apt-cache search searches it |
| 07:06.11 | redd4 | I like apt-spy |
| 07:06.26 | BullWeivel | right right...hrmm... im not sure where to go now. |
| 07:06.48 | BullWeivel | box wont find webmin-mysql |
| 07:07.11 | S3M73X | i like aptitude |
| 07:07.12 | BullWeivel | yet another box with the same exact sources.list finds it. |
| 07:07.16 | BullWeivel | so i dont get it. |
| 07:07.32 | S3M73X | BullWeivel edit the sources.list from the box where it works |
| 07:07.39 | S3M73X | copy paste the missing sources into your actual box |
| 07:07.41 | S3M73X | than do a |
| 07:07.46 | S3M73X | apt-get update |
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| 07:07.50 | S3M73X | on your current box |
| 07:07.54 | BullWeivel | already did that. |
| 07:07.54 | S3M73X | and than install your stuff |
| 07:08.21 | S3M73X | so you have a rootkit that blocks webmin-modules X-D *just joking* |
| 07:08.29 | BullWeivel | hehehe |
| 07:08.56 | S3M73X | hmm this is really w3rd |
| 07:09.12 | S3M73X | you asured that both sources.lists are eaqual? |
| 07:09.20 | S3M73X | and you did apt-get update as well ? |
| 07:09.24 | BullWeivel | yeppers |
| 07:09.34 | S3M73X | is there some apt-get proxie in your network for the other box? |
| 07:10.09 | BullWeivel | deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing non-free is the sources.list |
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| 07:11.13 | signature16 | is nvu the mainstream web developing program? |
| 07:11.14 | powder | uhhh |
| 07:11.15 | niaht | BullWeivel: apt-cache showpkg webmin-mysql |
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| 07:11.20 | Matej | hello |
| 07:11.27 | powder | shouldn't it be http://ftp.us.debian.org/... ??? |
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| 07:11.49 | redd4 | liable: looking at the alsa web site, says this: For sarge, if you take no special action at all, discover will automatically load the OSS sound driver module for your detected sound card. If you want to run ALSA instead, you need to take two steps: |
| 07:11.49 | redd4 | * Blacklist the OSS driver by removing it from /etc/modules and adding skip drivername to /etc/discover.conf and drivername to /etc/hotplug/blacklist. In modules I have sd_mod, not oss right? |
| 07:11.50 | niaht | powder: the url is ok. |
| 07:12.13 | powder | niaht, hmm i see |
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| 07:12.43 | zebalin4 | Has anyone tried the new 2.6.16 kernel with sid? |
| 07:13.00 | LoneWlf | nadim: how is the filesystem mounted? |
| 07:14.00 | Matej | I'd like to know if there's a possibility to use reiser4 on debian sid with the binary kernels. I installed reiser4progs and formatted a partition in reiser4, but now I can't mount that partition. Am i missing something? Thx |
| 07:14.40 | unix_infidel | w00t, openwrt works on my netgear wireless router :) |
| 07:14.54 | unix_infidel | heh, nvm. |
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| 07:15.10 | Max222 | hello all |
| 07:15.30 | redd4 | is sd_mod (in /etc/modules) oss? |
| 07:15.38 | Max222 | Can anybody tell me what version is the stable sarge debian? Is it 3.0? |
| 07:15.42 | liable | redd4: alsaconf actually should do that for you. look in your /etc/modules.d dir (or blacklist files, i dont remember where it does it) |
| 07:16.07 | redd4 | /etc/hotplug/blacklist here? |
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| 07:16.22 | nadim | LoneWlf: via fstab on boot-up |
| 07:16.42 | powder | Max222, http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian |
| 07:16.48 | LoneWlf | so here goes again: I just upgraded my kernel, openswan is working _kind of_... it is forward icmp traffic... help help. |
| 07:17.02 | gba | What is the TAP/TUN device? And how can I "activate" it? It is needed for qemu. (Yes, I know that this is not a qemu channel but as I want to use this device under Sarge I ask here.) |
| 07:17.04 | Max222 | thanks powder :) |
| 07:17.15 | LoneWlf | nadim: in the output of a 'mount' how is /var mounted? |
| 07:17.21 | powder | Max222, welcome :) |
| 07:17.37 | liable | nadim: what an apt-get -f install do? |
| 07:17.43 | nadim | LoneWlf: /dev/hda4 on /var type ext3 (rw) |
| 07:17.48 | LoneWlf | nadim: what are the mount options, what I'm going for is... it's not ro right? |
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| 07:18.09 | LoneWlf | nadim: ok, good. and fuser -u doesn't return anything interesting letting you know another process is using it? |
| 07:18.12 | liable | nadim: btw, the upgrade instructions are here. http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/release-notes/index.en.html#contents |
| 07:18.17 | nadim | liable: same error |
| 07:19.11 | nadim | LoneWlf: no, I (root) am the only one using /var - you have some ideas on what to do ? |
| 07:19.32 | unix_infidel | anyone here tried zfs yet? |
| 07:19.39 | gba | Or tell me a document that explains it to me, please. |
| 07:19.56 | Max222 | Somebody here use debian / ubuntu on servers? Witch on of them distros do u prefer? |
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| 07:20.15 | unix_infidel | Max222: distrowatch.com |
| 07:20.18 | LoneWlf | nadim: one thought that comes to mind is single user mode |
| 07:20.38 | LoneWlf | nadim: wtmp records user logins/logouts, and in single that's not possible |
| 07:20.59 | LoneWlf | nadim: the other thing I wanted to check was that the /var filesystem wasn't full |
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| 07:21.07 | niaht | gba: modprobe tun - and then in general the kernel docs |
| 07:22.35 | LoneWlf | nadim: oh... btw... it's fuser -m -u /var/log/wtmp that I'm really interested in... I forgot about -m... which is what you need to list the procs |
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| 07:23.52 | LoneWlf | nadim: for instance, when I run this against my /var/log/wtmp it comes back with slapd running, smbd running and nmbd running along with the ever so interesting dccifd and xfstt |
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| 07:26.16 | unix_infidel | i have a room with very bad air circulation, with the computer on ambient temp gets to around 78-80F+, any solutions? |
| 07:26.24 | redd4 | night all |
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| 07:26.37 | nadim | LoneWlf: I'm opting for a forced e2fsck just to make sure - this is way too wierd |
| 07:26.39 | unix_infidel | room size is about 12x12. |
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| 07:26.54 | redd4 | how do I leave a message for a user that is not here? |
| 07:27.31 | LoneWlf | redd4: I'm not sure on this, but I think you just msg them in a private window and it will store it |
| 07:28.23 | LoneWlf | aha |
| 07:28.27 | LoneWlf | redd4: there's the info |
| 07:28.38 | LoneWlf | redd4: do a /msg memoserv help |
| 07:28.45 | LoneWlf | that should tell you everything you need to know |
| 07:28.47 | redd4 | ok ty |
| 07:29.32 | liable | LoneWlf: do you know what rc, rce is when i fuser wtmp?? its got a multitude of them. |
| 07:30.14 | nadim | so I forced an fsck (e2fsck -f -y /dev/....) and it is already finding inodes that need fixin' |
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| 07:30.48 | nadim | so I guess the normal 'fsck' noting clean is meaningless |
| 07:30.53 | gba | niaht, okay I will look at the kernel docs, thanks |
| 07:31.20 | LoneWlf | nadim: nope, I don't... |
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| 07:31.32 | LoneWlf | nadim: did you try it with a -v (that's a bit more informative) |
| 07:31.40 | LoneWlf | nadim: the fsck may fix things too |
| 07:31.56 | nadim | LoneWlf: well, fsck was noting 'clean' |
| 07:32.29 | redd4 | LoneWlf: this worked /msg MemoServ send <nick> <message> |
| 07:32.30 | redd4 | ty |
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| 07:33.21 | nadim | LoneWlf: maybe fsck is actually checking some caches setting or something - but this partition was far from being clean, that's for sue. |
| 07:33.25 | nadim | s/sue/sure |
| 07:34.09 | nadim | let's see if that fixed it - rebooting. |
| 07:34.19 | LoneWlf | nadim : see u in a few |
| 07:34.40 | nadim | I'm on a different system - so I'll be on :-) |
| 07:34.48 | liable | nadim: eww. i dunno if i would reboot if i were you |
| 07:35.07 | nadim | too late now :-) |
| 07:36.08 | stefan__ | where's dpgk? |
| 07:36.10 | nadim | liable: does fsck/e2fsck screw things up ? |
| 07:36.55 | liable | nadim: not the fsck, the broken package thing |
| 07:37.17 | nadim | it booted back up - so we're OK for now |
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| 07:38.21 | nadim | it worked !! :-) |
| 07:38.49 | liable | nice |
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| 07:39.11 | ZaxX | in which package do I find "modprobe", please? |
| 07:39.25 | liable | !tell ZaxX about search |
| 07:39.29 | nadim | what kernel (at a min) should I be using with sarge ? |
| 07:39.35 | Noboru | i have a question can i ? |
| 07:39.43 | ZaxX | liable: Thank you. |
| 07:39.44 | liable | ZaxX: prolly core-utils, but check what dpkg just told you |
| 07:40.07 | nadim | ZaxX: packages.debian.org |
| 07:40.11 | liable | nadim: just ask. dont ask to ask. |
| 07:40.15 | Noboru | after i ran 'ALTER TABLE `forum` ADD `gallery` TINYINT( 4 ) NOT NULL' ,how do i remove it ? |
| 07:40.27 | nadim | liable: huh ? |
| 07:40.34 | nadim | liable: I am asking :-) |
| 07:40.40 | liable | nadim: wrong nick, sorry. |
| 07:40.43 | nadim | hehe |
| 07:41.08 | liable | Noboru: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/index.html |
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| 07:41.38 | Noboru | :( |
| 07:41.59 | liable | Noboru: and no, i dont know. everytime i need to futz with mysql, i need to read that ^^ try #mysql. |
| 07:42.14 | Noboru | ok |
| 07:42.45 | Matej | bye |
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| 07:43.17 | nadim | liable: any idea on what kernel sarge was released with ? |
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| 07:43.33 | liable | nadim: 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 |
| 07:43.48 | liable | brb, picking up pizza |
| 07:44.04 | liable | nadim: apt-cache search kernel-image |
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| 07:45.01 | nadim | it must have been 2.4.27-2 then... |
| 07:45.33 | LoneWlf | nadim: glad to see its working... its pretty bad that fsck was lying to you, at least you figured out what to do to get it to be truthful :) |
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| 07:47.04 | LoneWlf | mallxs: does anyone know anything about openswan/ipsec that would cause it to negotiate a connection but then only pass icmp traffic? |
| 07:47.28 | LoneWlf | mallxs: sorry that wasn't necessarily meant for you, I typed all: and it auto-completed for me |
| 07:47.37 | stefan__ | I'm now on kernel 2.6.16 but I want to degrade to 2.6.15 because of the nvidia driver that doesn't seem to support my kernel. but now I can't seem to fint 2.6.15 with apt. where is it? is it because of my sources.list? |
| 07:47.38 | LoneWlf | have to love bitchx though :P |
| 07:48.23 | LoneWlf | stefan__: only certain kernels are supported via apt... I didn't know that 2.6.16 was one of them... but I know that 2.6.8 was... |
| 07:48.57 | stefan__ | LoneWlf, I'm on unstable.. maby thats why i hade 2.6.8? |
| 07:49.08 | shining | hade? |
| 07:49.28 | LoneWlf | hade must be short for "had and hated" *grins* |
| 07:50.26 | shining | anyway, there is a patch for a few days, just search for it |
| 07:50.33 | shining | for nvidia on 2.6.16 |
| 07:50.37 | LoneWlf | stefan__: I'm pretty sure that only some of the kernels are in there... if you have to downgrade, I don't think that you can go to 2.6.15 without compiling it yourself... |
| 07:50.48 | LoneWlf | and what shining just said that I wasn't aware of |
| 07:51.21 | LoneWlf | you guys know everything |
| 07:51.23 | shining | :d |
| 07:51.24 | LoneWlf | sometimes |
| 07:51.24 | unix_infidel | what other programs can play .mov files besides mplayer? |
| 07:51.34 | LoneWlf | can't xine? |
| 07:51.47 | stefan__ | LoneWlf, Jesus! damn. I imagined that i could install 15 and then reboot and run 15 and then remove 16 ore something.. |
| 07:51.58 | shining | well, I just use mplayer, it's great |
| 07:52.11 | LoneWlf | unix_infidel : yep, xine can |
| 07:52.20 | LoneWlf | unix_infidel : it lists it on their homepage |
| 07:53.26 | LoneWlf | nice nick btw... what make you a 'unix infidel'? |
| 07:53.40 | stefan__ | LoneWlf, The thing is, 2.6.16 doesn't hade a kernel-headers-package so i cant freakin buld my nvidia driver.. |
| 07:53.58 | stefan__ | how do i degrade from 2.6.16 to 2.6.15 |
| 07:54.09 | shining | lol |
| 07:54.10 | LoneWlf | stefan__: the procedure would be... um... let's see |
| 07:54.18 | wobbler | stefan__: linux-image2.15 is still in unstable |
| 07:54.19 | tzafrir | stefan__, linux-headers, you mean? |
| 07:54.24 | LoneWlf | stefan__ : download the source for the kernel from kernel.org |
| 07:54.27 | wobbler | 2.6.15 |
| 07:54.30 | stefan__ | LoneWlf, yes |
| 07:54.42 | LoneWlf | stefan__ : and you don't want an odd numbered release |
| 07:54.53 | stefan__ | wobbler, but i cant apt-get 2.6.15, maby my sources.list is fucked? |
| 07:54.54 | LoneWlf | stefan__ : for reasons I don't remember but are hard-coded |
| 07:55.01 | LoneWlf | stefan__ : so get 2.6.14 |
| 07:55.11 | stefan__ | LoneWlf, okej |
| 07:55.12 | shining | LoneWlf: lol |
| 07:55.13 | wobbler | are you useing linux-image? |
| 07:55.24 | stefan__ | wobbler, yes |
| 07:55.32 | wobbler | its there |
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| 07:56.14 | LoneWlf | stefan__ : then untar it, and then copy over /boot/config-2.6.16 into the dir under the alias .config and do a make oldconfig, answer anyquestions it might have, then do a make-kpkg binary, once this is done, do a cd ..; dpkg -i kernel*2.6.14*deb; and reboot, should be on your list :) |
| 07:56.24 | stefan__ | wobbler, this is my sources.list deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free AND deb-src http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 07:56.48 | tzafrir | LoneWlf, hey..... |
| 07:56.53 | stefan__ | LoneWlf, thanks. |
| 07:57.02 | tzafrir | LoneWlf, there's make-kpkg , if you haven't heard |
| 07:57.11 | shining | tzafrir: huh |
| 07:57.22 | shining | \o/ |
| 07:57.25 | tzafrir | stefan__, the Debian way of that procedure: |
| 07:57.30 | LoneWlf | stefan__ : however, seeing what wobbler put up there, you might try apt-get linux-img2.6.15 |
| 07:57.38 | dorel | im trying to automount cds using autofs but it's not automounting |
| 07:57.50 | LoneWlf | tzafrir: I used it in my procedure... read it again :P |
| 07:58.07 | stefan__ | LoneWlf, yes but I cant seem to find it via apt.. should be there but i cant fint it |
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| 07:58.28 | wobbler | stefan__:linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 07:58.46 | tzafrir | stefan__, what distro do you use? |
| 07:58.57 | shining | stefan__: you are lucky nobody has flamed you yet for using unstable and not being able to do anything yourself :) |
| 07:58.59 | stefan__ | wobbler, LoneWlf said that I don't want an odd number release |
| 07:59.11 | stefan__ | shining, thanks! |
| 07:59.18 | stefan__ | tzafrir, unstable |
| 07:59.38 | tzafrir | isn't there a package for nvidia drivers source (in non-free?) |
| 07:59.39 | LoneWlf | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:59.49 | wobbler | stafan__: it worked fine for me |
| 08:00.11 | LoneWlf | tzafrir: maybe, but his issue is that their driver won't run in 2.6.16 yet |
| 08:00.16 | shining | LoneWlf: indeed, it isn't at all |
| 08:00.28 | stefan__ | LoneWlf, thanks anyway. I'll try you tips.. this irc-channel is what gets me truu my day |
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| 08:00.41 | wobbler | stafan__: the odd means like 2.7 or 2.5 |
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| 08:00.57 | LoneWlf | stefan__ : just so long as you don't ask the same thing more than once |
| 08:01.04 | LoneWlf | stefan__ : :) |
| 08:01.20 | SilverMoonDragon | howdy |
| 08:01.41 | LoneWlf | wobbler : thank you! that's it... you don't want 2.7 or 2.5 because that's a testing kernel... that's why the distos, like debian, came with 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 08:02.13 | LoneWlf | shining : the same doesn't apply to dot releases... man I must be tired |
| 08:02.28 | shining | LoneWlf: maybe :) |
| 08:02.31 | LoneWlf | SilverMoonDragon : howdy yourself |
| 08:02.58 | SilverMoonDragon | LoneWlf, howdy yourself too |
| 08:02.59 | LoneWlf | I'm seeing this Dragon... in a cowboy hat with a flame thrower in a holster |
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| 08:03.51 | SilverMoonDragon | LoneWlf, my idea was more like a silver dragon bowing with a pentacle around his neck |
| 08:04.05 | SilverMoonDragon | in drark with a full moon above |
| 08:04.22 | LoneWlf | *nods* yes, but then you said 'howdy' |
| 08:04.28 | SilverMoonDragon | hehe |
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| 08:04.49 | LoneWlf | and you transformed into the Dragon Shariff |
| 08:05.14 | SilverMoonDragon | now *that's* an image ;) |
| 08:05.54 | LoneWlf | So, everyone that joins this channel has a problem or an issue or a fetish |
| 08:06.02 | LoneWlf | Talk to me *grins wolfishly* |
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| 08:06.21 | LoneWlf | wb meff |
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| 08:06.48 | LoneWlf | wb kinks |
| 08:07.10 | LoneWlf | flips a coin on whether he goes to bed yet |
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| 08:07.31 | SilverMoonDragon | LoneWlf, and... ? |
| 08:07.48 | LoneWlf | I forgot to call it |
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| 08:07.55 | LoneWlf | but it was on tails |
| 08:08.17 | SilverMoonDragon | so, you going to bed? |
| 08:08.33 | LoneWlf | in a minute |
| 08:08.44 | LoneWlf | well... |
| 08:08.47 | LoneWlf | 10 minutes or so |
| 08:08.53 | wmhtet | how about the cab? is he in bed already? :) |
| 08:09.05 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:09.11 | LoneWlf | my cub? |
| 08:09.13 | Isil`Zha | hi. debian locks up during start up after the DHCP. this can be resolved with ctrl-c but actually this does at most feel like a workaround... the last message is like "refresh in 43200 seconds" |
| 08:09.18 | SilverMoonDragon | LoneWlf, what's the time there? |
| 08:09.19 | LoneWlf | My cub is still in the oven |
| 08:09.22 | wmhtet | heh yeah |
| 08:09.24 | wmhtet | lol |
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| 08:09.35 | LoneWlf | the time is now... 9 after 1 |
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| 08:09.55 | SilverMoonDragon | LoneWlf, you should *definately* go to bed |
| 08:10.14 | LoneWlf | but I'm still having fun |
| 08:10.18 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, you shold disable dhclient |
| 08:10.21 | LoneWlf | and I need a bit o' fun |
| 08:10.23 | unix_infidel | irc!=fun. |
| 08:10.28 | LoneWlf | ok |
| 08:10.34 | LoneWlf | now I know why you are an infidel |
| 08:10.44 | LoneWlf | irc += fun |
| 08:10.50 | unix_infidel | lol. |
| 08:10.50 | LoneWlf | it's a command console |
| 08:10.53 | LoneWlf | that talks back! |
| 08:11.07 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: ok thank you |
| 08:11.14 | LoneWlf | and has a wider vocabulary than 'Command not found: hi." |
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| 08:11.29 | shining | LoneWlf: that's quite amazing indeed :) |
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| 08:11.40 | wmhtet | ok, I also have question :) , my sound device is not working, I need to run alsaconf for every reboot to get the sound, |
| 08:11.56 | LoneWlf | shining: have you been here the whole time? I thought you'd wandered off for sure! |
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| 08:12.24 | LoneWlf | whtet : well, it sounds to me like its working fine then... you just have to automate the alsasound |
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| 08:12.33 | wmhtet | shining: go talk with dpkg, it's fun sometime :) |
| 08:12.38 | LoneWlf | hi lesbian |
| 08:12.42 | shining | no I'm on an other chan, and I'm going to see a movie |
| 08:12.46 | shining | lol |
| 08:12.58 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:13.00 | shining | re lol |
| 08:13.08 | LoneWlf | shining : I just saw V for Vendetta, what are you going to watch? |
| 08:13.27 | wmhtet | lonewlf, you scare her away :D |
| 08:13.35 | shining | wmhtet: I already did, quite fun too indeed, but not long |
| 08:13.46 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:13.50 | shining | LoneWlf: the first star wars, since I didn't see them |
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| 08:13.57 | shining | well the first, but the last |
| 08:14.06 | shining | you know |
| 08:14.19 | LoneWlf | wmhtet : um... vi /etc/rc2.d/K99<tab> <shift>+g o /<fullpathto>/alsaconf <esc> :wg reboot |
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| 08:14.38 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.23 | LoneWlf | wmhtet : you do realize all I am doing is having you add it to the last startup script in /etc/rc2.d right? |
| 08:15.36 | LoneWlf | er, one of the last |
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| 08:15.57 | LoneWlf | the thing is... if alsaconf is like a menu proggy or somesuch... |
| 08:16.14 | wmhtet | I guess so but you are making it run alsaconf |
| 08:16.15 | shining | yep, it would be weird |
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| 08:16.26 | LoneWlf | yep... |
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| 08:16.32 | wmhtet | so it means I still need to go through configuring? |
| 08:16.32 | stjepan | how to tell debian I installed something from source? With Gentoo I can just put the name of program in package.provided. How does dpkg/apt solve this problem? |
| 08:16.44 | LoneWlf | but uh... I also put in a typo... it should be :wq, not :wg |
| 08:16.46 | shining | wmhtet: isn't it just a mixer problem? |
| 08:16.47 | LoneWlf | never a dull moment |
| 08:16.56 | shining | wmhtet: or the modules don't even get loaded ? |
| 08:17.02 | wmhtet | I don't get sound right away by runninf alsaconf |
| 08:17.02 | tzafrir | stjepan, apt-get source, for starters |
| 08:17.14 | LoneWlf | tzafrir : good call |
| 08:17.28 | LoneWlf | probably |
| 08:17.33 | Genghis|Lapt | anyone is having problems with apt-get upgrade (lm-sensors) also? |
| 08:17.39 | LoneWlf | you should take a look at what it's actually doing... |
| 08:17.40 | Coweater | stjepan: there's equivs, checkinstall, rolling your own packages |
| 08:17.41 | tzafrir | stjepan, the cd package-name-versionnum |
| 08:17.48 | LoneWlf | and make it do that manually |
| 08:17.53 | tzafrir | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| 08:17.57 | LoneWlf | er... automatically rather |
| 08:18.02 | wmhtet | shining , I don't think that it is a mixer problem |
| 08:18.03 | tzafrir | (or, simpler: debuild) |
| 08:18.05 | stjepan | tzafrir: that will just download sources, won't it? |
| 08:18.22 | stjepan | Coweater: cant I just tell apt I installed it from source, do I really have to make a .deb? |
| 08:18.26 | tzafrir | apt-get source downloads sources and extrats them |
| 08:18.39 | LoneWlf | stjepan : when you do the debuild it comes out with a .deb in the underlying directory |
| 08:18.41 | stjepan | tzafrir: what about installing and telling apt I installed it? |
| 08:18.50 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:18.57 | stjepan | ok, tnx guys |
| 08:18.59 | LoneWlf | stjepan : once you install this with dpkg -i packagename.deb apt will know |
| 08:19.17 | tzafrir | stjepan, mostly because people are used to building as non-root, I guess... |
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| 08:19.47 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.10 | wmhtet | may be the correct modules is not loaded |
| 08:20.31 | LoneWlf | wmhtet : that is possible, let me read up on alsaconf so I can speak intelligently on it |
| 08:20.52 | shining | wmhtet: ha you've 2 cards |
| 08:20.59 | shining | but |
| 08:21.10 | shining | what happens when running alsamixer right after booting? |
| 08:21.18 | LoneWlf | huh... I don't have apt-spy |
| 08:21.21 | wmhtet | lonewlf, thx. shining yeh |
| 08:21.23 | LoneWlf | I hope it does what I think it does |
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| 08:21.34 | shining | you can use alsamixer -c 0 and -c 1 for both cards |
| 08:21.58 | Nwallins|home | what is the standard zlib dir to pass to `./configure --with-zlibdir=` ? |
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| 08:22.12 | wmhtet | shining, ok, I will try to install alsamixer now and give it a try |
| 08:22.33 | shining | but I found out that disabling the onboard sound card in bios is the easiest thing to do on one box |
| 08:23.01 | LoneWlf | Nwallins|home : the dir where zlib.o lives |
| 08:23.20 | LoneWlf | if you had downloaded with apt-source compile you would be having this issue |
| 08:23.23 | Nwallins|home | hmm, locate comes up empty.. guess i need to install |
| 08:23.36 | LoneWlf | well, then maybe you would... |
| 08:23.39 | LoneWlf | *chuckles* |
| 08:23.41 | wmhtet | shining, good point, I will remember that |
| 08:24.06 | LoneWlf | I'm just too easily distracted I guess, that and alsa-utils is very slow... |
| 08:24.10 | LoneWlf | to download I mean |
| 08:24.17 | Genghis|Lapt | since the bot aint advertising the nopaste link it seems, i'll do it myself: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2234 |
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| 08:24.27 | Genghis|Lapt | anyone an idea on howto fix that? |
| 08:24.45 | LoneWlf | well, how is it no worky? |
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| 08:25.31 | LoneWlf | oh boy, I do not have the energy for this right now... |
| 08:25.45 | LoneWlf | later allz |
| 08:26.21 | liable | !pate |
| 08:26.21 | dpkg | hmm... pate is liver! |
| 08:26.22 | wmhtet | bye lonewlf, thx for the help |
| 08:26.23 | liable | !paste |
| 08:26.24 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 08:26.36 | Nwallins|home | hrm.. `locate zlib.o` still comes up empty |
| 08:26.38 | liable | hrm, dpkg lives! :) |
| 08:26.48 | wmhtet | hey liable |
| 08:27.11 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: can you give me hint on how to do that? is it related to the package dhcp-client? a dpkg-reconfigure on this didn't show anything |
| 08:27.12 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:27.39 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: please ;) |
| 08:28.09 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, you should probably check the networking init scripts. do you use a dhcp server to access internet or do you configure it manually? |
| 08:28.10 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:28.19 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:28.20 | Nwallins|home | wmhtet: yeah |
| 08:28.23 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:29.18 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: i have no idea. actually i never changed anything there as it just worked. then after upgrading to sid it started to show this message without moving on after it. |
| 08:29.35 | Nwallins|home | well, it boils down to dhcpd + tftpd + config |
| 08:29.40 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:29.45 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, how do you configure your network? |
| 08:29.48 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.07 | Nwallins|home | wmhtet: it's hard to figure out what's going wrong ;) |
| 08:30.14 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.16 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: that's a good question. so far i didn't |
| 08:30.19 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.33 | SilverMoonDragon | do you have a network card? |
| 08:30.42 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: yes |
| 08:31.00 | Nwallins|home | wmhtet: you also need to consider if you are doing etherboot or pxe boot, and how to manage boot images, etc. I haven't really done that successfully |
| 08:31.01 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, can you pm me? it seems freenode doesn't allow non-registered users to pm |
| 08:31.07 | wmhtet | Nwallins, is it a production system or test system? |
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| 08:31.17 | Nwallins|home | wmhtet: very much a test system |
| 08:31.39 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:31.49 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, anyway, can you gimme a ls of /etc/rc<runlevel>.d (<runlevel> is your current runlevel) |
| 08:31.51 | Nwallins|home | i have used it with a dos image, but the pxe client wouldn't boot properly, though it did get the image |
| 08:31.52 | wmhtet | it's really reliable |
| 08:32.03 | wmhtet | ok |
| 08:32.17 | Nwallins|home | the machine would boot off the image on a floppy, never figured it out |
| 08:33.07 | wmhtet | for my system, it does not even need floppy , it just use intel PXE boot with grub to get the image |
| 08:33.18 | Nwallins|home | i was happy enough just to see the pxe boot sequence performed, even if the machine hung |
| 08:33.18 | wmhtet | I dunno very detail though |
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| 08:33.48 | Nwallins|home | wmhtet: right, floppy is not needed. i used it to verify the image wasn't corrupt |
| 08:34.03 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: sorry but how do i find out about the runlevel? |
| 08:34.03 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.22 | Nwallins|home | though perhaps the floppy had bad sectors that matched the image... the floppy was the source of the image |
| 08:34.25 | Nwallins|home | i dunno... |
| 08:34.49 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.51 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, see /etc/inittab. there should a line which says initdefault. that specifies your runlevel |
| 08:34.58 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, did you get my pm? |
| 08:35.13 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: no |
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| 08:35.53 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.01 | Nwallins|home | wmhtet: i found that the machine took forever to secure a dhcp address... was faster booting off the hard drive, i didn't tweak dhcpd or atftpd beyond getting pxe minimally functional |
| 08:36.53 | Nwallins|home | wmhtet: no, you misunderstand. i was serving a dos image via pxe, and the machine was receiving it. it hung. so i tried the same image booting off of a floppy, only for the sake of verifying the image, not for pxe |
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| 08:37.32 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: id:2:initdefault: ? |
| 08:37.34 | wmhtet | ok, I am not very knowledgable in the matter yet :) |
| 08:37.35 | SkareCrow | Hello all |
| 08:37.48 | Nwallins|home | wmhtet: forget the floppy, it is irrelevant ;) |
| 08:37.53 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:38.18 | SkareCrow | can anyone point me into creating my own cmd files. like LS and stuff |
| 08:38.28 | Nwallins|home | i was booting off the floppy *instead* of pxe, to see if the image itself was any good |
| 08:38.38 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, cool. now do ls /etc/rc2.d |
| 08:38.41 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:38.50 | wmhtet | ok |
| 08:38.55 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, and paste it somewhere on the internet and gimme the link |
| 08:39.08 | Nwallins|home | wmhtet: i bet, i'd love to see how it is set up :) |
| 08:39.37 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:39.45 | Nwallins|home | i am not much of a network engineer, so i was happy to get as far as i did |
| 08:39.56 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: i hope i don't look too stupid now: i don't know how i would paste anything or even copy. i'm not used to command line... |
| 08:40.35 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:40.47 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:40.50 | SkareCrow | could someone point me in the right direction to creating my own commands? |
| 08:40.51 | Isil`Zha | wmhtet: tirc |
| 08:40.52 | SilverMoonDragon | wmhtet, no tab completion? |
| 08:41.06 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:41.21 | Nwallins|home | so, I have zlib installed on my system, but I'm not sure how to specify: `./configure --with-zlib=` `locate zlib.o` comes up nil |
| 08:41.36 | stoned | how do i find out what version of debiain I am running? |
| 08:41.40 | stoned | like etch or sid or what? |
| 08:41.47 | Nwallins|home | stoned: put down the bong, first ;) |
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| 08:42.06 | stoned | Nwallins|home, try not to be useless |
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| 08:42.14 | wmhtet | vi /etc/apt/cources.list ? |
| 08:42.23 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: what are you looking for? then i search myself |
| 08:42.23 | stoned | wmhtet, I just thought of it |
| 08:42.24 | tzafrir | SkareCrow, search keywords: shell scripts |
| 08:42.28 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.31 | liable | says the fella who doesnt know what version of debian he runs.. |
| 08:42.31 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, ok, open the terminal and type `ls /etc/rc5.d' (without the quotes) and press enter |
| 08:42.50 | SkareCrow | thank you tzafrir :) |
| 08:42.51 | wmhtet | so I help one in debian channel today :D |
| 08:43.05 | Nwallins|home | `cat /etc/debian_version` |
| 08:43.10 | tzafrir | SkareCrow, e.g: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ . But |
| 08:43.16 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: i'm on command line. all i got is a terminal ;) |
| 08:43.22 | liable | that wont tell you if you use sid or etch |
| 08:43.24 | wmhtet | let me try Nwallins' option |
| 08:43.53 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: executing this is not the issue either... it's rather to forward that to you |
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| 08:44.22 | wmhtet | Nwallins, it does not give the the name tho, like etch or sid but 'testing/unstable' |
| 08:44.29 | tzafrir | SkareCrow, but basically: write the commands you type in a shell into a file and run "bash file" |
| 08:44.38 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, do you see anything that looks remotely similar to dhclient or dhcp? |
| 08:45.05 | SkareCrow | i will try that tzafrir |
| 08:45.18 | tzafrir | SkareCrow, and then look into "shebang", "executable bit" and "PATH" to make this a proper command you run like ls |
| 08:46.41 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: no |
| 08:47.58 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, do `grep dhc /etc/init.d/rcS' |
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| 08:49.29 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: nothing |
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| 08:50.58 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, try `egrep DHCP\|BOOTP /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0' |
| 08:51.13 | Genghis|Lapt | since the bot aint advertising the nopaste link it seems, i'll do it myself: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2234 |
| 08:51.16 | Genghis|Lapt | anyone an idea on howto fix that? |
| 08:51.22 | niaht | eww |
| 08:51.45 | Nwallins|home | anyone know where the zlib lives? there is /usr/include/linux/zlib.h, but `./configure --with-zlibdir=/usr/include/linux` didn't do it |
| 08:53.42 | liable | Genghis|Lapt: have you checked the bts for lm-sensors? |
| 08:53.54 | Genghis|Lapt | the what? |
| 08:54.09 | liable | !bts |
| 08:54.09 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 08:54.10 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: it can't find the dir |
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| 08:54.38 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, no /etc/init.d ??? |
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| 08:54.54 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, man, it is tougher than I thought |
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| 08:55.28 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: i eitehr got sysctl.conf or syslog.conf |
| 08:56.32 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, there has to be an init.d. check it again. it is very, very difficult to do so without\ |
| 08:56.43 | Genghis|Lapt | liable |
| 08:56.49 | Genghis|Lapt | can't find anything on that pages |
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| 08:57.36 | liable | Genghis|Lapt: file a bug, and take a look at the offending script and see if anything jumps out at you. |
| 08:57.40 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: yes init.d is there. i was refering to things starting with "sys" in /etc/ |
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| 08:58.59 | SilverMoonDragon | Isil`Zha, oh, sorry. |
| 08:59.45 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: no i am. i should have been more precise |
| 09:01.36 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: i searched for 'network-scripts' below /etc/ : nothing |
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| 09:01.44 | Nin | hi everybody |
| 09:01.46 | Nin | good morning |
| 09:01.52 | Neur0n | good morning |
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| 09:03.59 | nnod | anyone else getting this error after upgrading experimental alsa?: conf.c:3144: snd_config_iterator_first: Assertion `node->type == SND_CONFIG_TYPE_COMPOUND' failed. |
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| 09:04.31 | Neur0n | nnod do you have support in the kernel for alsa and its components? |
| 09:05.14 | nnod | Neur0n: yup, i think this is related to a recent change in alsa or it's configuration file |
| 09:05.21 | liable | Genghis|Lapt: can you paste that script? the errors don make sense, and seeing as its on sarge, i am surpised you are getting the error. also, how is it upgrading when the package is already in the archive? have you downgraded something manually?? |
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| 09:05.48 | Neur0n | probably... |
| 09:05.58 | Genghis|Lapt | what script? |
| 09:06.06 | Genghis|Lapt | and no, i did not downgrade shit |
| 09:06.27 | Genghis|Lapt | all the packages installed are installed trough apt anyway |
| 09:06.38 | Genghis|Lapt | and i found others on google having the same prob as me |
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| 09:06.41 | Genghis|Lapt | but no solution |
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| 09:07.02 | liable | Genghis|Lapt: the post.ist script. /var/lib/dpkg/info/ .. but why is it already in your apt-cache when its being upgraded? seems a bit strange.. |
| 09:07.16 | Genghis|Lapt | i have no clue |
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| 09:08.28 | Genghis|Lapt | maybe its allready in the cache, cause this aint the first time i'm trying to update |
| 09:08.35 | Genghis|Lapt | tried it yesterday, same problem |
| 09:08.47 | liable | hrm, dpkg shows the sarge2 version.. |
| 09:08.49 | Genghis|Lapt | so i waited, and tried again |
| 09:08.55 | liable | Genghis|Lapt: file a bug. |
| 09:09.07 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: i searched the whole file system now. still nothing |
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| 09:09.14 | SkareCrow | well ima goto bed g`night all |
| 09:09.25 | Neur0n | good night SkareCrow |
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| 09:10.06 | Isil`Zha | SilverMoonDragon: actually nothing is not correct. it came up with an error about /proc/ having a wrong hard link count. but i guess i care for that later |
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| 09:10.49 | karl | need HELP I have used backup-manager to make a backup Now when I try to restore it says gunzip: h749360.20060322.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated Can this be fixed? Is the archeive corrupt and I can do nothing with it ? |
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| 09:11.30 | azeem | karl: run ´file' on the archive, what does it say? |
| 09:11.47 | Genghis|Lapt | liable: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2235 |
| 09:11.53 | Genghis|Lapt | thats the postinstall script |
| 09:11.58 | liable | Genghis|Lapt: hrm, i just installed it on my sarge box without errors. |
| 09:11.58 | karl | h749360.20060322.tar.gz: gzip compressed data, from Unix |
| 09:11.59 | Genghis|Lapt | you asked for |
| 09:12.42 | azeem | karl: what does tar tzvf h749360.20060322.tar.gz say? |
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| 09:14.13 | snail | I have a freshly installed debian box which has the time out by several hours, what's the best way to fix that? |
| 09:14.23 | liable | Genghis|Lapt: this is a standard sarge box? |
| 09:14.33 | Genghis|Lapt | yes |
| 09:15.16 | liable | snail: with 'date' and you might want to check your timezone. or /msg dpkg set the time |
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| 09:17.03 | Neur0n | snail you can try tzconfig to set the local timezone |
| 09:18.09 | snail | Neur0n: thanks, but the time and not the timezone is the problem |
| 09:18.50 | karl | azeem: it writes several directorys and then says tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers |
| 09:18.52 | Neur0n | ah ok! |
| 09:18.57 | liable | Genghis|Lapt: try (for shits and giggles) commenting the lines in /etc/modutils/actions then try installing again |
| 09:19.10 | azeem | karl: is the latter an error or a warning= |
| 09:19.11 | azeem | ? |
| 09:19.11 | Neur0n | snail then tray date -s |
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| 09:19.57 | karl | azeem:gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated |
| 09:20.01 | Genghis|Lapt | liable, now i'm getting a shitload of errors |
| 09:20.16 | karl | azeem:tar: Child returned status 1 |
| 09:20.31 | karl | azeem: tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 09:20.33 | Genghis|Lapt | errors like: /etc/modutils/aliases: line 35: alias: cipher-7: not found |
| 09:22.20 | liable | Genghis|Lapt: right. i dont see the link to modutils.. |
| 09:22.21 | azeem | karl: seems that your tar is really corrupted then |
| 09:22.31 | azeem | karl: you can try to extract the parts which are still good |
| 09:22.40 | azeem | maybe there is some way to fix it, I don't know |
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| 09:23.27 | karl | azeem:how do I do that ? |
| 09:23.42 | ecliptik | with newer 2.6 kernels can you build agpgart as a module? All I see when I do make menuconfig is a '---' next to it |
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| 09:23.52 | gourdin | hi there |
| 09:23.57 | azeem | karl: do what? |
| 09:23.59 | gourdin | anyone using eclipse here ? |
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| 09:24.29 | gourdin | I'm trying to use eclipse with sun jdk 1.5.0 on debian, I don't know how |
| 09:24.39 | karl | azeem: extract parts that are ok |
| 09:24.53 | gourdin | I've allready made my own deb with fakeroot, I update-alternative java |
| 09:25.07 | azeem | tar zxvf foo.tar.gz will extract stuff in the current directory till it encounters the error I guess |
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| 09:25.17 | gourdin | but when I launch eclipse, it saids that it use the free jvm 1.4.2 |
| 09:25.21 | gourdin | anyone got a clue ? |
| 09:25.28 | karl | It is only /boot ((((( |
| 09:26.00 | karl | I have an idea that it was uploaded on ftp in asc2 mode It ther a way to fix that |
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| 09:31.10 | valdyn | gourdin: what's wrong with eclipse using jdk 1.4.2 ? |
| 09:31.18 | Nameeater | is it ok for rtc, shpchp and pciehd modules to fail on boot? |
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| 09:31.59 | liable | Genghis|Lapt: can you paste your modutils action file? |
| 09:32.03 | gourdin | valdyn: weird question ;) I don't care, I'm trying to use eclipse with the sun jdk on a debian |
| 09:32.04 | jaggy | hi.. I'm actually using ubuntu, but I was wondering about the local caching of ip lookups... |
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| 09:32.31 | jaggy | I changed our ns records for an IP but from firefox as well as shell the lookups are still returning the old ip.. |
| 09:32.41 | Nameeater | jaggy: tried #ubuntu? |
| 09:32.42 | jaggy | I even went so far as to add the entry to /etc/hosts for kicks |
| 09:32.44 | robhu_ | Hi could someone please help me? When I use 'date' it gives me the time in UTC but I want it to be BST (British Summer Time), where can I change that? |
| 09:32.51 | gourdin | valdyn: I don't want to use some sort of free compatible alternative, I want to use "java(tm)" =) |
| 09:33.38 | Tallu | jaggy: flushdns |
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| 09:33.52 | gourdin | valdyn: can you help me ? |
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| 09:34.55 | menko | robhu_: there is a debconf applet for that. It's called timezoneconf in gkdebconf here |
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| 09:35.19 | robhu_ | menko: umm |
| 09:35.22 | robhu_ | menko: ok thanks |
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| 09:35.30 | menko | thats ok |
| 09:35.42 | valdyn | gourdin: if you insist on eclipse running on a different jvm than the debian packages do then you should probably install the upstream eclipse. If you just want to develop for 1.5.0 with eclipse that's an entirely different thing. |
| 09:36.26 | gourdin | valdyn: I want to develop for 1.5.0 on eclipse running on 1.5.0 |
| 09:37.04 | valdyn | gourdin: so grab the upstream package.. |
| 09:37.06 | robhu_ | menko: I installed it but it doesnt appear to be called timezoneconf. What do I type to run it? |
| 09:37.25 | npx | you should be able to just use a different PATH, JAVA_HOME and JDK_HOME for eclipse |
| 09:37.27 | gourdin | upstream eclipse wont start |
| 09:37.34 | jaggy | nameeater, sorry.. no.. blush :) |
| 09:37.47 | Nameeater | :p |
| 09:37.47 | gourdin | with some error writing in a directory the user got the right to write |
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| 09:38.01 | gourdin | but this isn't the chan to ask ;) |
| 09:38.02 | jaggy | no flushdns entry either.. lemme see if the #ubuntu channel exists :) |
| 09:38.07 | npx | I.E. PATH=/usr/local/jdk1.4/bin JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk1.4 JDK_HOME=/usr/local/jdk1.4 old_eclipse |
| 09:38.09 | gourdin | valdyn: yo uknaow a chan for eclipse ? |
| 09:38.09 | npx | or whatever. |
| 09:38.22 | valdyn | gourdin: no idea |
| 09:38.39 | gourdin | valdyn: thx for your time |
| 09:38.46 | jaggy | it's there.. thanks.. |
| 09:38.48 | jaggy | :) |
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| 09:38.53 | npx | gourdin, read what I said |
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| 09:39.12 | npx | it just executes the first `java` in PATH |
| 09:39.31 | gourdin | npx ho |
| 09:39.35 | valdyn | npx: not debians package |
| 09:39.51 | gourdin | npx that sucks since I made the sun jdk the default one |
| 09:39.54 | valdyn | npx: you'd have to mess with the debian package, i don't recommend that.. |
| 09:40.02 | gourdin | npx thanks for the tips |
| 09:40.14 | gourdin | valdyn: so the eclipse deb package have to use the default jvm no ? |
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| 09:40.40 | npx | valdyn, negative, you can just use sun or blackdown binary distributions in /opt and forgo debian packages for java entirely |
| 09:40.45 | valdyn | gourdin: the eclipse debian package doesn't respect your 'default' jvm setting as set with update-alternatives |
| 09:40.59 | gourdin | no |
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| 09:41.03 | gourdin | it doesn't |
| 09:41.40 | npx | what? it doesn't just look in PATH for 'java' then check JAVA_HOME like every other java application? |
| 09:41.45 | npx | that's silly. |
| 09:41.47 | valdyn | npx: no |
| 09:41.59 | valdyn | npx: it depends on and uses gcj as far as i can see |
| 09:42.14 | npx | then use a script to alias gcj to javac |
| 09:42.17 | npx | and invoke it |
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| 09:42.33 | valdyn | npx: and i think that's good, i dont want my eclipse to break with every java upgrade ;) |
| 09:42.39 | gourdin | this is so complicated |
| 09:42.47 | npx | how would that break eclipse with every upgrade? |
| 09:42.58 | npx | this is standard behavior in the java world |
| 09:43.12 | npx | check PATH, check JAVA_HOME, check JDK_HOME, fail |
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| 09:43.36 | valdyn | npx: eclipse uses jni, so its not as easy as that.. |
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| 09:44.43 | gourdin | valdyn: why update-alternatives didn't update my path ? |
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| 09:45.08 | valdyn | gourdin: you PATH? it just changes your java symlink |
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| 09:46.38 | gourdin | valdyn: isn't it better to install only one jvm ? |
| 09:46.58 | gourdin | If I install sun one, why apt doesn't delete the other one ? |
| 09:47.02 | valdyn | gourdin: just saves a little harddisk space |
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| 09:47.12 | valdyn | gourdin: why should it? |
| 09:47.29 | gourdin | because I don't want to manually tell all my java apps to use one java over another |
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| 09:47.43 | gourdin | I don't know |
| 09:47.46 | gourdin | =) |
| 09:47.49 | gourdin | it's a mess |
| 09:47.50 | gourdin | é"à^@ |
| 09:47.51 | gourdin | =) |
| 09:47.57 | valdyn | gourdin: that is what update-alternatives is for, standard java applications use just 'java' to find their jvm |
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| 09:48.03 | valdyn | gourdin: eclipse just does _not_ |
| 09:48.08 | gourdin | valdyn: ok |
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| 09:48.21 | gourdin | valdyn: is there a reason for that ? |
| 09:48.22 | Nameeater | how can I setup a raid1 after installing debian? |
| 09:48.47 | valdyn | gourdin: you cant just switch the jvm below eclipse, it would break binary compatibility with the jni librariries that eclipse also needs |
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| 09:50.14 | gourdin | valdyn: ok |
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| 09:51.01 | null_ | hello |
| 09:51.14 | null_ | any one upgraded memory on debian system ? |
| 09:51.24 | wols_ | !anyone |
| 09:51.24 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 09:51.25 | null_ | any changes necessary ? |
| 09:51.32 | wols_ | no changes |
| 09:51.51 | null_ | wols_, what about the swap size n things ? |
| 09:51.56 | valdyn | null_: depends |
| 09:52.05 | wols_ | unless you use the i386 boot kernel, then you might need a kernel with highmem support (and k7 or -686 kernel) |
| 09:52.13 | wols_ | nokthing needed to change |
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| 09:52.27 | null_ | well its less than the 4gb highmem |
| 09:52.35 | null_ | upgrading from 512 to 1.25g |
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| 09:58.20 | null_ | thanks much valdyn, wols_ |
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| 10:00.25 | null_ | hmm how can i resize the swap space now, dont wanna reinstall everything again |
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| 10:01.12 | tzafrir | null_, in the worst case, add a swap file until next boot |
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| 10:01.41 | null_ | tzafrir, what do u mean ? |
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| 10:02.00 | wols_ | null_: why do you want to resize it? |
| 10:02.17 | null_ | unfortunately i dont have space on the harddisk so as to increase the swap |
| 10:02.26 | wols_ | tzafrir: since he increased is phys ram, he probably wants to decrease it not increase |
| 10:02.41 | null_ | wols_, well swap aint supossed to be atleast like 30% more than amt of ram |
| 10:02.51 | wols_ | you'd need to resize partitions anyways to mess with swap, so why bother |
| 10:02.55 | tzafrir | I don't believe you can (at runtime) |
| 10:02.56 | wols_ | no it |
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| 10:03.11 | null_ | tzafrir, well i am not talking aobut doing it on runtime |
| 10:03.16 | wols_ | no it's not. it's supposed to be big enough to hold all your running processes (together with ram) |
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| 10:03.24 | wols_ | there is nO rule of X percent for whatever |
| 10:03.42 | tzafrir | null_, it's basically the same as deleting it and recreating it. A swap partition has practically no data |
| 10:03.45 | null_ | wols_, well i had problems with suspend to ram and disk, when my swap and mem were set to 512mb |
| 10:03.53 | tzafrir | (unless it is used for software suspend) |
| 10:03.54 | null_ | tzafrir, well i know that |
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| 10:04.42 | null_ | oncce i changed swap to 1gb with 512mb ram, all problems qwent away, and susp/ram/disk work |
| 10:05.03 | null_ | so thinking might be the same problem again |
| 10:05.09 | wols_ | ok, when you do suspend via swap space it needs to be bigger than your ram of couirse |
| 10:05.14 | sime | Can i used dpkg-reconfigure to restore all default apache2 configuration files ? |
| 10:05.29 | null_ | wols_, yeah |
| 10:05.30 | wols_ | so you need to use parted for example to resize partitions (your data ones) |
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| 10:05.34 | wols_ | and then increase swap |
| 10:05.45 | null_ | i hope it doesnt messup the partitions |
| 10:05.48 | wols_ | best boot from a knoppix cd for this |
| 10:06.04 | JosephSpiros | this is so strange... I'm putting etch on my Ultra 10, and files keep failing in "Installing the Base System"... that is to say, I'm netinstalling, so downloads fail |
| 10:06.12 | JosephSpiros | however, they shouldn't, I mean, my connection seems to be fine otherwise |
| 10:06.17 | JosephSpiros | any ideas/suggestions? |
| 10:06.27 | liable | you could make a swap file, or better compress the suspend image.. |
| 10:06.32 | wols_ | it might try to download from wrong place |
| 10:06.57 | Shadowcat | I believe ftp.debian.org has a planned downtime or something |
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| 10:07.07 | Shadowcat | I usually keep two mirros in the sources.list file just in case |
| 10:07.29 | JosephSpiros | but if I hit "ok" or whatever the confirmation is on those errors |
| 10:07.32 | kingmike | Hi. What package from unstable do I need to install to get mmencode ? |
| 10:07.34 | JosephSpiros | it goes to the next file, and downloads fine |
| 10:07.36 | JosephSpiros | ;x |
| 10:07.37 | null_ | hmm ill give parted a try |
| 10:07.58 | JosephSpiros | I had a similar problem downloading installer components, but at least installer components download let me hit "retry" |
| 10:08.03 | JosephSpiros | rather than this which seems to just be failing |
| 10:08.09 | null_ | it works i hope, i dont wanna screwup the install |
| 10:08.13 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 10:08.16 | JosephSpiros | however, if I hit "retry", it would install fine |
| 10:08.21 | Mazingaro | is anyone playing vegastrike on sid? |
| 10:08.25 | JosephSpiros | that is to say, it would download fine... |
| 10:08.35 | goldenaura | Hi there. I have been doing some experiences with a computer, and after some months i conclude that kernel 2.6 is not stable with this hardware, and very very very stable with kernel 2.4, both with Debian Sarge. |
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| 10:09.12 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:09.13 | dpkg | popcon is probably the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 10:09.14 | goldenaura | But i need this machine to do software raid, apache2, zope 2.8.6, exim4, courrier-imap... do i need kernel 2.6 to use this services better, mainly the software raid thing? Is ext3 better supported in kernel2.6 or software raid works better in kernel2.6? |
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| 10:16.04 | flosch | hi all |
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| 10:17.07 | pinucset | when will kaffeine 0.8 be in unstable? |
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| 10:18.08 | Eulex | pinucset, wir and siyh |
| 10:18.21 | pinucset | wir and siyh? sorry, i didnt understood |
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| 10:18.30 | Eulex | !wir |
| 10:18.30 | dpkg | from memory, wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 10:18.32 | Eulex | !siyh |
| 10:18.32 | dpkg | hmm... siyh is Sooner If You Help, or see "wir" and "rsn" |
| 10:19.08 | pinucset | !wir |
| 10:19.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
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| 10:19.23 | pinucset | !rsn |
| 10:19.23 | dpkg | rsn is, like, Real Soon Now (or never) or see "wir" and "siyh" |
| 10:19.31 | pinucset | ok :) |
| 10:19.34 | aucirob | Im trying to install Gkrellm ad when I use apt get to install it i get this error...E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied ) |
| 10:21.18 | aucirob | ?? |
| 10:21.22 | aucirob | Im trying to install Gkrellm ad when I use apt get to install it i get this error...E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied ) |
| 10:21.39 | oskie | is there a password manager that works in console as well as with GTK/GNOME? |
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| 10:24.10 | tarzeau | oskie: gtk1, gtk2 or gnome? |
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| 10:25.08 | adii | is there a way to have my brand new radeon x1600 work with debian etch ? |
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| 10:25.59 | oskie | tarzeau: gtk2 or gnome, doesn't matter which |
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| 10:26.37 | wilm | hey, can someone send me the file update-rc.d? i removed it, and apt-get is not working properly anymore... :-( |
| 10:26.39 | liable | adii: unlikely for 3d, but 2d will. |
| 10:26.52 | liable | wilm: you did what? |
| 10:27.06 | wilm | libable: i did many stupid things, i guess |
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| 10:27.38 | wilm | basically, i now try to install the package that contains update-rc.d, but during the isntallation it misses the file already |
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| 10:28.14 | SimonRaven | you can always go fetch the deb and install it |
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| 10:28.25 | SimonRaven | !find update-rc.d |
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| 10:28.38 | liable | sysv-rc |
| 10:28.59 | liable | wilm: installe it with dpkg --confmiss |
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| 10:29.06 | wilm | ok, will try, thanks |
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| 10:39.21 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 10:39.31 | Mazingaro | is anyone playing vegastrike |
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| 10:47.23 | pokkie | hello all, for some reason my samba shares just working in xp, anybody have any ideas as to why this would happen? i get a "network path was not found" error message |
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| 10:47.50 | pokkie | oops, should have said - "just stopped working" |
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| 10:49.21 | Rizzer | space, sorry |
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| 10:51.48 | pokkie | !samba |
| 10:51.48 | dpkg | it has been said that samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html) |
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| 10:53.44 | AM|R | hello |
| 10:53.59 | AM|R | i want to ask about my problem installing kde with apt-get install kde |
| 10:54.28 | davidmccabe | Hi folks. I have read the FAQs. I have a package whose installation failed. I want to abort the installation. However, every time I invoke apt-get for any other purpose, it tries to install the package again. I want it to forget all about it. Any pointers? Thanks! |
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| 10:55.04 | sepski | davidmccabe, tried dpkg -P packagename ? |
| 10:55.09 | edulix | hello ! |
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| 10:55.13 | davidmccabe | sepski: I'll try it. |
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| 10:55.38 | stoned | davidmccabe, apt-get -f install |
| 10:55.50 | sepski | edulix, apt-get autoclean |
| 10:55.56 | edulix | thanks :) |
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| 10:56.26 | davidmccabe | stoned: doesn't work. |
| 10:56.31 | davidmccabe | stoned: the problem is not broken dependencies. |
| 10:56.43 | pokkie | anybody know if there is a limit on the number of samba servers that can be run on the same LAN? |
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| 10:57.34 | sepski | pokkie, the number of ip's in the subnet - network and broadcast addresses |
| 10:58.13 | davidmccabe | sepski: that doesn't seem to do it either. |
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| 10:58.55 | pokkie | sepski: ahhh |
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| 10:59.12 | sepski | davidmccabe, i'd assume if you'd get en error messaeg you'd tell us about it right ? or do we get to gess ? |
| 10:59.22 | pokkie | sepski: so, if 2 samba servers have the same broadcast addy's then thats going to be a problem? |
| 10:59.27 | davidmccabe | sepski: the error message is: |
| 10:59.53 | davidmccabe | well, do you want the error message when apt tries to install it again, or when I try to dpkg -P it? |
| 10:59.56 | davidmccabe | or both? |
| 11:00.02 | sepski | pokkie, all hosts on a subnet use the same broadcast address. what i ment with - was (minus) |
| 11:00.16 | sepski | pokkie, ie you can't have servers on the network and broadcast addresses |
| 11:00.17 | davidmccabe | oh, I forgot to mention, the package is actually an upgrade. |
| 11:00.39 | davidmccabe | I can't dpkg -P it because the installed version has dependencies. |
| 11:01.07 | pokkie | sepski: so you saying that i have to remove the broadcast addresses? |
| 11:01.19 | sepski | davidmccabe, so you dont want to remove it you want to upgrade it ? |
| 11:01.27 | davidmccabe | no |
| 11:01.30 | davidmccabe | I don't even want to upgrade it. |
| 11:01.35 | davidmccabe | I want apt to forget that I ever told it to upgrade it. |
| 11:01.43 | sepski | pokkie, get a grip i just say you can have as many samba servers as you have machines running |
| 11:01.52 | davidmccabe | and to quit trying to upgrade it every time I tell apt to do some unrelated thing. |
| 11:02.17 | pokkie | sepski: lol, would have been better if you just said that in the first place ;) |
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| 11:03.18 | sepski | pokkie, im beginning to agree with you |
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| 11:04.46 | pokkie | sepski: ok, tell you what happended. this morning i installed linux on my new laptop. i setup samba on the laptop and could browse the laptop fine in windows, but for some reason my existing linux server can't be seen by my windows xp pc any more |
| 11:05.33 | pokkie | sepski: what i mean by "can't be seen" is that xp won't allow me to browse the pc. i can ping it just fine |
| 11:05.36 | sepski | davidmccabe, have you tried putting the package on hold ? echo packagename hold | dpkg --set-selections ? if that also fail i'd try installing the one spesific version i wanted with dpkg -i |
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| 11:06.19 | pokkie | sepski: i can even ssh to my linux server |
| 11:06.25 | davidmccabe | sepski: can I hold the specific version to allow for other upgrades in the future? |
| 11:06.26 | pokkie | sepski: from windows |
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| 11:06.39 | sepski | pokkie, ssh fails using name or ip or both ? |
| 11:06.49 | sepski | pokkie, if ssh fail you have errors unrelated to samba |
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| 11:07.14 | wols_ | pokkie: then set your WINS and other settings correctly in both samba configs I guess. I'm sure \\ip.of.linuxpc\sharename still works, right |
| 11:07.22 | sepski | davidmccabe, yes i just told you how |
| 11:07.30 | pokkie | sepski: i can ssh from the windows pc by ip and by hostname |
| 11:07.43 | davidmccabe | sepski: you said 'packagename', and I wanted to know if it would work for packagename-version. |
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| 11:07.48 | sepski | pokkie, oh i read can't not can |
| 11:07.48 | davidmccabe | sepski: sorry for the misunderstanding. |
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| 11:08.15 | sepski | davidmccabe, no :: dpkg --get-selections would clearify it for you a bit i think |
| 11:08.17 | pokkie | wols_: hmmm, the samba config files are identical apart from the shares |
| 11:08.38 | davidmccabe | sepski: ah. |
| 11:08.39 | lanchow | how to make the /usr/src/.../include/linux/version.h ? i need it to compile a nvidia driver. |
| 11:08.46 | wols_ | pokkie: that's thge problem! both want to be WINS master or somesuch and there can only be one in a network, duh |
| 11:08.56 | sepski | pokkie, you should une 1 (one) machine as wins server. and configure all the others with that machines ip address as wins clients |
| 11:08.57 | roxy_ | Hi, if I set: "CONSOLE console:tty01:tty02:tty03:tty04" in login.defs, would that mean that root login or su into root would be allowed from my pc and not from somewherelse even using ssh? |
| 11:09.00 | Dewi | could anyone tell me whether Windows Services For UNIX will handle unicode filenames properly? cygwin doesn't, and I'm having a lot of trouble with interoperation of unicode filenames between windows and debian |
| 11:09.05 | wols_ | lanchow: get kernel-headers. or compile your own curstom kernel |
| 11:09.10 | wols_ | both times you get that file |
| 11:09.18 | roxy_ | I read the doc but I am not sure I understand it well |
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| 11:09.50 | lanchow | wols_: thx |
| 11:10.03 | sepski | lanchow, use the debian way on a debian /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 11:10.19 | pokkie | wols_: errr, WINS isn't configured |
| 11:10.25 | lanchow | k |
| 11:10.34 | pokkie | !wins |
| 11:10.35 | dpkg | it has been said that wins is the Windows Internet Naming Service |
| 11:10.38 | wols_ | pokkie: there are default settings for config things usually |
| 11:10.58 | wols_ | and it might not be WINS actualy. dunno all the stuff MS has in thar regard |
| 11:11.29 | menko | hi, does anyone know if there are any mouse cursor preview tools in the (sid) repos? I can change them with alternatives, but I searched for a cursor changing tool in synaptic and can't find one. So I thought there might be one with a weird name or something |
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| 11:12.23 | pokkie | !samba |
| 11:12.23 | dpkg | hmm... samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html) |
| 11:12.29 | CoolCubix | (bash) why find |grep gz 2>/dev/null |
| 11:12.29 | CoolCubix | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:12.41 | CoolCubix | (sorry for newline) |
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| 11:13.35 | sepski | pokkie, well a smb network (samba) have great advantags with a wins server. i'd reccomend on setting wins support = yes on your server, and wins server = w.x.y.z on your clients and also configure wins in windows networking. |
| 11:14.10 | CoolCubix | oops it works with find 2>/dev/null |grep gz ^^ thx anyway :) |
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| 11:14.29 | entuall | hello |
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| 11:15.11 | davidmccabe | thanks sepsk. |
| 11:15.14 | davidmccabe | er, sepski. |
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| 11:19.38 | pokkie | wols_: does it matter what the workgroup names are? |
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| 11:25.28 | lanchow | with the nvidia one-liner do i need the NVIDIA-linux...-pkg1.run from nvidia website ? |
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| 11:27.46 | garo | when i run 'apt-get install foo bar' i also install 'a','b' and 'c' which are deps of 'foo' and 'bar'. How do i remove those deps when i want to remove 'foo' and 'bar' (if i forgot the names of the deps) ? |
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| 11:36.37 | Nameeater | what command do I use to format a hdd as ext3? |
| 11:36.39 | garo | when i run 'apt-get install foo bar' i also install 'a','b' and 'c' which are deps of 'foo' and 'bar'. How do i remove those deps when i want to remove 'foo' and 'bar' (if i forgot the names of the deps) ? |
| 11:36.53 | garo | Nameeater: mkfs -t ext3 |
| 11:37.11 | Nameeater | /dev/hdi on the end? |
| 11:37.18 | r_marvin | garo: deborphan? |
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| 11:38.11 | xanavim | how do I create a dual-boot debian and solaris system? |
| 11:39.06 | wols_ | http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~bernhard/grub-solaris.html |
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| 11:39.40 | garo | r_marvin: thanks |
| 11:39.44 | wols_ | or short: grub with chainloader +1 to boot solaris, same as you'd boot windows |
| 11:39.54 | garo | Nameeater: yes |
| 11:40.13 | r_marvin | Nameeater: you would probably need partitions first |
| 11:40.16 | Nameeater | hmm, says the device does not exist which isnt good |
| 11:40.19 | r_marvin | and format those |
| 11:40.26 | wols_ | not just "probably". it's a good idea to have them first |
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| 11:40.33 | r_marvin | :) |
| 11:40.44 | Nameeater | I thought I partitioned it when I installed it :/ |
| 11:40.54 | wols_ | if you want to format a /dev/hdd partition there is no /dev/hdi anywhere |
| 11:41.05 | wols_ | no. run cfdisk /dev/hdd |
| 11:41.08 | Nameeater | debian dies saying that it is not ext3 (as I gave it a mount point) |
| 11:41.18 | xanavim | so if I install to MBR, it won't damage any files from solaris that I've already installed? |
| 11:41.26 | xanavim | er, install grub to mbr I mean |
| 11:41.28 | wols_ | xanavim: yes |
| 11:41.28 | Nameeater | do I need to MAKEDEV hdi? |
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| 11:41.50 | TANATHOS | !dpkg bird |
| 11:41.51 | xanavim | wols_: you mean, it *will* damage files? |
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| 11:42.03 | wols_ | xanavim: it will not damage anything |
| 11:42.10 | Nameeater | cd /dev |
| 11:42.13 | Nameeater | oops :) |
| 11:42.24 | wols_ | Nameeater: check dmesg what /dev/hdX is assigned to that disk |
| 11:42.25 | xanavim | wols_: ok, thx (: |
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| 11:43.42 | Nameeater | it is hdi, which doesnt exist in /dev so I MAKEDEv'd it and will soo how it goes now |
| 11:43.48 | Nameeater | soo/see |
| 11:44.01 | r_marvin | makedev the partitions, too |
| 11:44.19 | Nameeater | it does that automagically I believe |
| 11:44.23 | r_marvin | no |
| 11:44.25 | jivco_t | Can you tell me where to find old versions of debian packages? |
| 11:44.44 | r_marvin | or at least, check to see :) |
| 11:44.48 | azeem | jivco_t: http.//snapshot.debian.net |
| 11:44.52 | jivco_t | 10x |
| 11:44.58 | Nameeater | well Im rebooting then Ill check :) |
| 11:45.37 | Nameeater | is it fine if rtc, shpchp or pciehp modules fail on boot? |
| 11:46.07 | Nameeater | yay, makedev worked :) |
| 11:46.41 | TANATHOS | !bird |
| 11:49.00 | r_marvin | is there a way to debootstrap debian from a gentoo install disc? :) |
| 11:49.37 | wols_ | !moo |
| 11:49.37 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 11:51.15 | Fr0 | anyone here have any experience with debian-arm? |
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| 11:51.44 | Fr0 | I'm having some problems getting it working on my NAS device |
| 11:52.09 | Fr0 | (it starts up the cron daemon, and finishes out all the startup scripts, but never gets to the login prompt) |
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| 11:52.30 | row | Whats the command to find out what package a file belongs to? |
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| 11:52.45 | k31th | humm i have installed this pam_auth module and i get the following error. |
| 11:52.46 | mtyhome | hi all |
| 11:52.46 | k31th | [client 10.0.0.183] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function: pam_auth() in /var/www/html/moodle/auth/pam/lib.php on line 34, referer: http://10.0.0.50/moodle/login/index.php |
| 11:53.37 | row | k31th: is it been loaded by php, ie is it in php.ini for your apache install and have you restarted apache? |
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| 11:53.51 | k31th | row: i restarted apache |
| 11:54.03 | k31th | row: how can i tell if php has loaded it |
| 11:54.09 | row | phpinfo |
| 11:54.18 | k31th | where do i put it in php.ini ? |
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| 11:54.35 | row | make a php file with |
| 11:54.48 | row | <?=phpinfo()?> in it |
| 11:55.05 | row | look at that page you then will see a shed load of info on your php install |
| 11:55.13 | mtyhome | i cannot enter menuconfig to configure the kernel, was there a packet to be installed to do so? |
| 11:55.49 | mtyhome | it just says scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o error1 |
| 11:55.51 | AciD | mtyhome > ncurses ? |
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| 11:56.05 | Fr0 | isn't it ncurses-dev |
| 11:56.06 | Fr0 | ? |
| 11:56.12 | cHaPlinux | aptitude accepted downloads and to install packages of mirrors for 64 bits, when using linux in the architecture i386? |
| 11:56.14 | scytheman | libncurses5-dev |
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| 11:57.08 | mtyhome | scytheman: ncurses is for terminal gui suff right? |
| 11:57.16 | scytheman | mtyhome, yes |
| 11:57.17 | k31th | row: yeah the word pam doesnt appear on that page so i guess its not loaded |
| 11:57.23 | k31th | how do i go about loading it? |
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| 11:57.27 | mtyhome | scytheman: thx man |
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| 11:58.07 | TANATHOS | cHaPlinux : yes |
| 11:58.31 | TANATHOS | cHaPlinux : downloading but i don;t think installing |
| 11:59.04 | row | anyone know what package contains start-stop-daemon tool? |
| 11:59.32 | TANATHOS | row: do you mean manually or cron? |
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| 12:00.06 | Neverther | php is nice lang and with gd it's even more powerful |
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| 12:00.14 | row | I want to get the source for start-stop-daemon thats used in the init scripts. |
| 12:00.23 | Neverther | naturally safemode needs to be off |
| 12:01.13 | TANATHOS | row : start-stop-daemon |
| 12:01.18 | row | k31th: try dpkg-reconfigure php4-auth-pam |
| 12:01.27 | row | or add the module to your php.ini |
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| 12:01.38 | row | I must be off tho |
| 12:01.54 | B0neTruper | how can i install kde instead of gnome? it has gnome... |
| 12:02.02 | cHaPlinux | TANATHOS, I not wise person who was mirrors for 64bits, : ( , my God! |
| 12:02.04 | azeem | !kde |
| 12:02.04 | dpkg | it has been said that kde is a desktop environment based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details, or not a window manager, or ask your questions about it in #debian-kde |
| 12:02.06 | row | TANATHOS: I can't find that package. |
| 12:02.26 | azeem | B0neTruper: apt-get install kde, basically |
| 12:02.40 | TANATHOS | row : it is not a package - it's a daemon try start-stop-daemon --help |
| 12:03.13 | TANATHOS | cHaPlinux : didn't figered out what you meant! |
| 12:03.17 | scytheman | row, dpkg provides start-stop-daemon |
| 12:03.30 | Eulex | row, apt-file search for it and the apt-get source pkgname |
| 12:04.05 | k31th | how do i add a modukle to my php.ini. |
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| 12:05.32 | row | was the start-stop-daemon written for debian? |
| 12:05.51 | TANATHOS | row, yea |
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| 12:06.14 | row | hmm, I wanted to compile it for my ipcop box. |
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| 12:06.37 | TANATHOS | ipcop |
| 12:06.39 | row | I will look into it later anyway, I must go out. |
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| 12:06.46 | TANATHOS | don't think it will work |
| 12:06.59 | row | its a nice little tool |
| 12:07.00 | row | shame |
| 12:07.04 | TANATHOS | row, read out : lib/lsb/init-functions |
| 12:08.23 | row | ah cool |
| 12:08.37 | row | anyway must be off |
| 12:08.55 | TANATHOS | bye row |
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| 12:09.10 | loxley_ | anyone having problems building nvidia driver for latest 2.6.16 kernel? |
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| 12:10.19 | Eulex | loxley_, it requires patches |
| 12:10.23 | TANATHOS | loxley_ : state a question |
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| 12:10.29 | loxley_ | TANATHOS: i did |
| 12:10.54 | loxley_ | Eulex: ok, any hints where i can go looking for the patches? |
| 12:11.02 | TANATHOS | loxley_ : patch from nvidia.com |
| 12:11.14 | loxley_ | TANATHOS: ok, thanks |
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| 12:14.50 | xanavim | well, that was easy... now I have a dual-boot debian and solaris system (: |
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| 12:15.35 | xanavim | well, easy after two failed attempts |
| 12:15.38 | B0neTruper | do i have to change a file or something to start with kde and not gnome? |
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| 12:17.06 | Defty | B0neTruper: use update-alternatives -config x-window-manager |
| 12:17.24 | Defty | B0neTruper: or was it --config, anywawy that as root if i remember |
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| 12:17.27 | B0neTruper | i run this command and that's all? |
| 12:17.34 | Defty | it let's you select |
| 12:17.43 | Defty | lets |
| 12:17.44 | Defty | lol |
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| 12:18.15 | Eulex | B0neTruper, --config |
| 12:18.29 | JosephSpiros | hmm, I just installed etch from scratch using beta d-i image on a Sun Ultra 10. it installed yaird. I have initrd-tools on my other debian machines, and I'm wondering if it matters which is in use? |
| 12:18.48 | JosephSpiros | that is, could I switch the ultra 10 to initrd-tools without issue, or switch the rest to yaird without issue? |
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| 12:19.32 | wols_ | why do you need initrd in the first place= |
| 12:19.34 | wols_ | ? |
| 12:19.55 | JosephSpiros | lvm? |
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| 12:20.37 | TANATHOS | wols_ : the same reason you need air |
| 12:20.48 | ac3 | I never understood why people use initrd. Why do all stock kernels have an initrd? |
| 12:20.55 | ac3 | TANATHOS: :) |
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| 12:21.24 | wols_ | TANATHOS: huh? |
| 12:21.28 | TANATHOS | ac3 : there is a need to create a boot rule |
| 12:21.38 | ac3 | what´s a boot rule? |
| 12:21.48 | wols_ | also, you can easily add lvm into the kernel. no initrd needed |
| 12:21.49 | AciD | ac3 > it's useful sometimes, for instance if you have / on lvm |
| 12:22.11 | ac3 | i compile it in the kernel |
| 12:22.18 | wols_ | initrd is needed for distro kernel since they might get too big otherwise to fit on bootfloppies for example |
| 12:22.39 | ac3 | ah |
| 12:23.10 | JosephSpiros | wols_: if I want to compile my own |
| 12:23.13 | JosephSpiros | wols_: which I don't |
| 12:23.23 | wols_ | there are only two reasons for initrd I can see: a) distro kernels. b) shitty binary only drivers |
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| 12:23.27 | wols_ | evreything else: useless |
| 12:23.38 | JosephSpiros | wols_: select (a), then |
| 12:24.07 | ac3 | wols_: explain (b)? |
| 12:24.20 | wols_ | ac3: some binary only raid drivers for example |
| 12:24.44 | wols_ | you can't compile them in since you only get modules, but if it's your boot partition, what you gonna do? |
| 12:25.11 | ac3 | but your initrd is also located on the raid volume no? |
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| 12:25.20 | ac3 | so how do you xs that? |
| 12:25.22 | wols_ | your kernel is located there too :) |
| 12:25.40 | wols_ | basically your bootloader loads it for the kernel the same way it loads the kernel itself |
| 12:25.56 | wols_ | easier to load only a file instead of traversing the full directory path |
| 12:25.58 | KD-Misafir131 | slm |
| 12:26.05 | KD-Misafir131 | türki015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f |
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| 12:26.43 | ac3 | :) |
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| 12:27.27 | TANATHOS | KD-Misafir131? |
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| 12:27.30 | TANATHOS | try english pls |
| 12:28.15 | JosephSpiros | how strange! initrd-tools isn't even one of the options allowed by the linux image for this machine |
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| 12:30.09 | wols_ | at least, I never ever did anything else. from what I remember precompiled kernels already come with a made initrd |
| 12:30.42 | XTF | Hi. Does anyone know why strace -p <pid> to a few processes that are using max CPU is showing no output? |
| 12:30.56 | loxley_ | Eulex: where can i find those patches for nvidia? |
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| 12:31.10 | wols_ | maybe they don't call any kernel functions? |
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| 12:31.25 | ac3 | yeah,strace only shows system call´s |
| 12:31.29 | wols_ | a while(1); look uses a lot of cpu (potentially), but it never does any syscalls |
| 12:31.32 | wols_ | and only those are traced |
| 12:31.35 | modulus | is it possible to install debian with speakup support? where does one get the necessary files if so? |
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| 12:31.59 | XTF | wols_: Yes, but in this case it's about Apache2 and another network server that are serving traffic, so I doubt they don't make syscalls. |
| 12:32.01 | adii | hello |
| 12:32.27 | KD-Misafir131 | türki015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f015f |
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| 12:32.35 | wols_ | !info kernel-patch-speakup |
| 12:32.40 | dpkg | kernel-patch-speakup: (A screen review package for the Linux kernel), section admin, is optional. Version: 20040506-1 (sid), Packaged size: 110 kB, Installed size: 848 kB |
| 12:32.46 | wols_ | !ops KD-Misafir131 seems to be a weird spambot |
| 12:32.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: KD-Misafir131 seems to be a weird spambot |
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| 12:33.18 | adii | i've recently plugged a new "radeon x1600", and installed french debian os. i got the error "no screen found" at gdm startup, and detailed log shows that my card does not belong to the "ati" supported cards |
| 12:33.20 | adii | how can i do ? |
| 12:33.41 | modulus | hmm, that tells me it is packaged, but not whether i can install with it |
| 12:33.42 | TANATHOS | adii: driver installed? |
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| 12:33.58 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 12:33.58 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 12:33.58 | SilverMoonDragon | hi |
| 12:34.03 | adii | TANATHOS what drivers ? |
| 12:34.04 | wols_ | modulus: to do that you need to create your own bootfloppies |
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| 12:34.15 | TANATHOS | adii: Ati drivers, other than Vesa |
| 12:34.17 | napoleao | !version.h |
| 12:34.17 | dpkg | if you use multiple kernels and wish to use the include files with ease, copy /usr/src/linux/include to /usr/include/kernel-X.Y.Z. then 'ln -fs /usr/include/kernel-X.Y.Z/linux/version.h /usr/include/linux/version.h' |
| 12:34.17 | modulus | oh pain! |
| 12:34.36 | wols_ | adii: there are NO drivers for those radeons excpt VESA (no accel at all) as far as I know |
| 12:34.48 | wols_ | adii: so basically, bitch at ATI, cause it's their fault |
| 12:34.54 | mejo | i try to compile a xen kernel with make-kpkg, but unfortunately it tells me: |
| 12:34.54 | mejo | unknown Debian architecture xen, you must specify GNU system type, too at /usr/bin/dpkg-architecture line 216. |
| 12:34.55 | adii | i think i've never tried with "vesa" |
| 12:34.57 | TANATHOS | wols_: :))) |
| 12:34.57 | modulus | wols_: is there documentation on how to go about so doing? |
| 12:34.59 | mejo | Not in correct source directory |
| 12:35.01 | Eulex | wols_, shouldn't fglrx work? |
| 12:35.20 | TANATHOS | adii: vesa are the default drivers |
| 12:35.35 | wols_ | Eulex: apparently not. read a feature about it recently on some site |
| 12:35.43 | JosephSpiros | hmm |
| 12:35.46 | wols_ | Eulex: the fglrx don't support those new cards |
| 12:35.50 | JosephSpiros | this is a rather silly question, I'm sure |
| 12:35.59 | adii | TANATHOS : i'll have a look and be back |
| 12:36.00 | JosephSpiros | but, if I've dpkg --set-selections incorrectly |
| 12:36.01 | Eulex | wols_, hmm, ok |
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| 12:36.14 | JosephSpiros | is there any way to revert back to having everything currently installed, and no planned installs/deinstalls/whatever? |
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| 12:37.03 | JosephSpiros | whoops |
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| 12:37.24 | wols_ | Eulex: nope. no drivers, even wikipedia says so :) |
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| 12:37.31 | wols_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon |
| 12:37.35 | TANATHOS | wols_ : tnx |
| 12:37.45 | Eulex | wols_, then you must be right ;) |
| 12:38.16 | wols_ | don't feed my ego. already bigger than it should be :P |
| 12:38.16 | TANATHOS | Eulex : he is |
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| 12:38.26 | RichiH | wols_: klined |
| 12:38.32 | wols_ | JosephSpiros: there is no downgrading possible with debian |
| 12:38.35 | modulus | is there docs on making boot floppies that contain speakup support for purposes of installing debian, and does it require a debian or gnu/linux system up? |
| 12:38.54 | JosephSpiros | what? |
| 12:38.59 | wols_ | RichiH: thank you (or whichever oper) |
| 12:38.59 | JosephSpiros | I'm not sure you understand what I'm asking |
| 12:39.19 | JosephSpiros | I dpkg --get-selections > foo, edited foo and added a few other packages with "install", then dpkg --set-selections |
| 12:39.39 | deepmoon | does anyone know where the webmin package went off to? It`s not present in testing |
| 12:39.47 | RichiH | wols_: np |
| 12:39.49 | JosephSpiros | I would like to do something so that when I dpkg --get-selections, I get the original foo, that is to say, I want to undo my --set-selections changes |
| 12:39.54 | wols_ | modulus: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html section 9.3 |
| 12:40.02 | JosephSpiros | more accurately, I want the only selections to be the packages already installed on the system |
| 12:40.03 | modulus | thanks a lot |
| 12:40.03 | wols_ | and yes, usually you need a running debian for that to work |
| 12:40.11 | modulus | oh, joy |
| 12:40.11 | wols_ | modulus: under what OS are you? |
| 12:40.20 | modulus | winblows 2k |
| 12:40.29 | wols_ | modulus: install CoLinux. www.colinux.org |
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| 12:40.43 | modulus | i've tried that out. it's not particularly accessible, sadly. |
| 12:40.44 | wols_ | that you should be able to install with your current TTS setup |
| 12:40.51 | wols_ | damn |
| 12:40.59 | wols_ | vmware? |
| 12:41.06 | modulus | hmm, i suppose i could try that |
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| 12:41.26 | SilverWolf | Is there a specific package for getting the modular Xorg from unstable? |
| 12:41.28 | modulus | doubt it will work though, mostly those things are treated like arbitrary bitmaps |
| 12:41.36 | cappiz | is it possible to have a line in a .htaccess file that sends all request to a certain server, like server.com/~user1/* to server2.com ? |
| 12:41.39 | wols_ | basically create a floppy image file which you can then write to a real floppy (or CD) via rawwrite |
| 12:41.44 | loxley_ | Eulex: sorry for repeating myself again, but can you give me any hints where the patches are for building the nvidia module with 2.6.16? |
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| 12:41.58 | obscuresoul | hi |
| 12:42.00 | modulus | anyway, thanks. maybe for when etch comes out this should be taken into account, that such support would be kinda useful for some people ;-) |
| 12:42.03 | TANATHOS | !nvidia drivers |
| 12:42.04 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia-howto was http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html for complete instructions for installing the NVIDIA DRI drivers "The Debian Way" on Sarge or Etch. Warning : follow the instructions with some care. in particular, if you don't know better, set NVDIST=stable instead of testing or unstable, or better yet, ask me about nvidia-graphics-drivers instead |
| 12:42.05 | mejo | is it possible to compile a xen kernel with kernel-package from debian/unstable? |
| 12:42.13 | loxley_ | TANATHOS: dude, i am doing that |
| 12:42.28 | TANATHOS | !nvidia-graphics-drivers |
| 12:42.29 | dpkg | See http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for help with drivers for NVIDIA graphics cards |
| 12:42.37 | wols_ | mejo: Itd use a vanilla kernel source with such a patch unless XEn has been packaged by debian |
| 12:42.47 | Learner` | how many partitions should be created if one wishes to use the server primarily for image storage? |
| 12:43.14 | wols_ | Learner`: I'd use 3: system stuff, swap, and data |
| 12:43.38 | wols_ | Learner`: but it's always a matter of personal taste |
| 12:43.41 | Learner` | so 100mbytes system, swap twice size of memory and the rest data? |
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| 12:43.49 | SilverWolf | !xorg |
| 12:43.50 | dpkg | i heard xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.0. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg |
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| 12:44.27 | AM|R | hi can i downgrade from unstable to stable? how? |
| 12:44.29 | wols_ | Learner`: 100Mbytes is not enough. 2-1GB is minimum. I wasn't talking about /boot or such, but everything you install into debiain, OS and apps |
| 12:44.36 | wols_ | AM|R: not possible |
| 12:44.47 | roxy_ | AMIR: no |
| 12:44.50 | wols_ | !downgrade |
| 12:44.50 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. |
| 12:45.12 | Learner` | thanks |
| 12:45.18 | AM|R | ok thanks.. which one better stable or unstable? |
| 12:45.29 | modulus | probably testing |
| 12:45.39 | AM|R | because seem some program like not working in unstable rite? |
| 12:45.39 | wols_ | AM|R: since you have to ask, stable for you |
| 12:45.40 | wols_ | !unstable |
| 12:45.41 | dpkg | methinks unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid. see sid faq. |
| 12:45.41 | TANATHOS | !.prn |
| 12:45.45 | mejo | wols_: i used a vanilla kernel 2.6.12 source an patched it with the xen patch. |
| 12:45.52 | TANATHOS | !prn |
| 12:46.20 | wols_ | mejo: that's good for you, but is relevant how? |
| 12:46.42 | tarzeau | TANATHOS: you forgot the o? |
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| 12:47.02 | mejo | wols_: the compilation fails. make-kpkg fails with: unknown Debian architecture xen, you must specify GNU system type, too at /usr/bin/dpkg-architecture line 216. |
| 12:47.30 | wols_ | mejo: and what does the old "make bzImage" say? |
| 12:47.57 | wols_ | or you could modify kernel-package or maybe file a bug "needs Xen patched kernels as target" or somesuch |
| 12:48.04 | modulus | byes |
| 12:48.10 | roxy_ | AMIR: using a base stable or testing is best. Note that using this system still allows you to have package from unstable. |
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| 12:48.28 | wols_ | roxy_: that is BAD. do not mix! |
| 12:48.32 | mejo | wols_: the strange thing is, that several docs in the internet claim that make-kpkg --arch xen should work. |
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| 12:48.51 | wols_ | going fully unstable is better than mixing stable and unstable. if you need newer stuff, maybe backports |
| 12:48.57 | wols_ | but doN#t create a mix monster |
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| 12:49.32 | karsten | wols_ Who's trying to do a Xen build? You? |
| 12:49.38 | wols_ | mejo is |
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| 12:50.22 | karsten | wols_: Thx. |
| 12:50.58 | karsten | mejo: Xen uses a sparse patch tree based on its kernel base. Which means that if you try to do a build from Debian you may have to resolve a slew of patches. |
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| 12:51.19 | karsten | mejo: The patches themselves are pretty small, there's a handful or so of significant ones. |
| 12:51.25 | mejo | karsten: i thought that this is where /usr/src/kernel-patches/amd64/apply/xen is for. |
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| 12:51.35 | roxy_ | wols_: why? I use debian at work and want it stable (stable/testing) I sometimes download unstable package and dpkg -i. What is wrong with that ? |
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| 12:51.39 | mejo | wols_: ? |
| 12:51.42 | karsten | mejo: Has Xen gone mainstream yet? |
| 12:52.03 | mejo | karsten: what do you mean with 'mainstream'? it's about xen3, and it's not in debian yet, if you mean that. |
| 12:52.24 | mejo | karsten: or do you mean if xen patches are included in the vanilla kernel? |
| 12:52.26 | karsten | mejo: Xen => Kernel tree. Was originally going to hit at 2.6.14/15, hasn't yet AFAIK. |
| 12:52.28 | ESPOiG | how many cd's shuld there be to install the whole of debian without the net |
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| 12:52.50 | tiny | I need to automatically start a shell script(that executes some programs) after system boots up. What's the proper way to do this on Debian? |
| 12:52.54 | mejo | karsten: i don't know |
| 12:52.55 | karsten | ESPOiG: Depends on how many packages you want to install. |
| 12:53.07 | karsten | tiny: less /etc/init.d/README |
| 12:53.24 | ESPOiG | well i downloaded the binary 1 disc and now i dont have ne packages |
| 12:53.43 | karsten | ESPOiG: Disks are ordered by package popularity. 1 disk == sufficient base system. Up to all of 'em depending on what you want installed. |
| 12:54.07 | ESPOiG | but it is askin me to install stuff... but apprentley it aint on disc |
| 12:54.07 | ESPOiG | ? |
| 12:54.08 | tiny | karsten: I've read Debian policy. |
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| 12:54.49 | nadjyla | hello :) |
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| 12:56.12 | karsten | tiny: 1. create an init script (use /etc/init.d/skeleton as a template), 2. tag your commands onto bootmisc.sh, 3. Create an @boot crontab entry. |
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| 12:56.17 | tiny | karsten: I'm not starting any daemons. Just simple programs. I don't need all that start|stop... stuff |
| 12:56.19 | karsten | tiny: Those are your basic options. |
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| 12:56.42 | ESPOiG | so i gots it now there is like 14 discs |
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| 12:56.51 | ESPOiG | if u want all the debian stuff |
| 12:56.52 | karsten | tiny: I'd recommend it regardless. The infrastructure's there, it's bog standard, and you (or whoever has to admin the system) can figure out WTF is going on. |
| 12:56.55 | karsten | !u |
| 12:56.56 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 12:57.14 | B0neTruper | i dont'n have net |
| 12:57.15 | B0neTruper | what to do? |
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| 12:57.27 | B0neTruper | ifconfig eth0 shows my nic |
| 12:57.29 | tiny | karsten: ok, I'll do it like that then |
| 12:57.33 | karsten | ESPOiG: Very few people install everything. If you have even slow net I'd recommend only the first few disks. |
| 12:57.34 | B0neTruper | but when i ping nothing happens |
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| 12:58.10 | karsten | B0neTruper: Confirm link light. Confirm cable. Confirm drivers. Confirm interface configuration. Confirm routing. Confirm DNS. COnfirm router. |
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| 12:58.41 | AM|R | how can i set up kde |
| 12:58.48 | AM|R | a already install the x |
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| 12:59.03 | karsten | !tell AM|R about install kde |
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| 13:00.28 | TANATHOS | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:01.52 | Phlexonance | is there a virtual drive for debian? |
| 13:02.37 | tarzeau | yeah i sell virtaul drivers for only $49.99/piece |
| 13:02.43 | infernix | whatchamean |
| 13:02.53 | tarzeau | order now 3 and only pay 2! |
| 13:02.54 | infernix | you can make files and put filesystems in them |
| 13:02.56 | Phlexonance | i mean like daemon tools |
| 13:03.09 | infernix | thats called 'mount' |
| 13:03.32 | Phlexonance | you tell me I can just mount an *.iso ? |
| 13:03.35 | \amethyst | Phlexonance: aha |
| 13:04.06 | karsten | Phlexonance: looback mount. Yes. |
| 13:04.17 | \amethyst | Phlexonance: mount foo.iso /mnt -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop1 |
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| 13:04.41 | Phlexonance | nice thanks |
| 13:04.46 | \amethyst | actually, I guess just -o loop is better |
| 13:04.55 | \amethyst | that will find the first unused loopback device |
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| 13:05.12 | infernix | for .bin/.cue theres tools that convert back to .iso |
| 13:05.51 | \amethyst | I imagine someone's written a fuse module to mount other formats of CD images |
| 13:05.57 | r_marvin | bchunk |
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| 13:08.35 | deternal | debian install problem: stable doesn't support my network, sid doesn't support my cdrom, trying to install on a thinkpad t43 w centrino any pointers anyone? |
| 13:09.44 | d4t2ilL4 | can we buy amd64 testing image ? |
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| 13:10.12 | karsten | deternal: Knoppix and a debootstrap install? |
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| 13:11.26 | obscuresoul | what's xprint? |
| 13:11.43 | karsten | obscuresoul: Magick. |
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| 13:12.24 | karsten | obscuresoul: hint: apt-cache show <pkg> |
| 13:12.50 | deternal | karsten: sounds interesting, - debootstrap is this: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en ? |
| 13:13.41 | karsten | deternal: Yeah. |
| 13:13.44 | karsten | deternal: I wrote that ;-) |
| 13:13.51 | deternal | cool [: |
| 13:14.13 | karsten | deternal: I'm also tired, drunk and have a headache, so keep the questions light. |
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| 13:14.36 | obscuresoul | karsten tks :P |
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| 13:14.49 | deternal | heh, yeah, I just blanked so this was the hint I needed |
| 13:14.54 | karsten | obscuresoul: NP |
| 13:15.03 | keep_it_real | hi all |
| 13:15.08 | karsten | deternal: cool |
| 13:15.23 | Adri2000 | i have a broken package because there is a dependance problem, but the dependance is in fact not needed, so, can i make this package not brocken any more, or ignore it so i can make apt-get upgrade |
| 13:15.34 | keep_it_real | i ve got a problem with some wmv files :/ |
| 13:15.54 | keep_it_real | sound in some wmv files is missing 'n i got no idea why ? |
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| 13:16.50 | karsten | !tell keep_it_real about marillat |
| 13:17.11 | karsten | keep_it_real: You're going to need the marillat multimedia packages. Which player? |
| 13:17.19 | karsten | keep_it_real: Specifically the win32 codecs. |
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| 13:17.30 | keep_it_real | karsten thank you a lot |
| 13:17.46 | phogg | where do I place a script so that it will run whenever dhcp obtains a new address? |
| 13:17.48 | karsten | keep_it_real: w32codecs is the package. |
| 13:17.51 | keep_it_real | bu i have already installed "esentional codecs" in /lib/win32 |
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| 13:18.02 | infernix | you can also try VLC instead. |
| 13:18.03 | keep_it_real | before everythig was fine in debian |
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| 13:18.18 | Guerin | !set the time |
| 13:18.18 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 13:18.20 | keep_it_real | now in kubuntu the sound in SOME wmv files is missing |
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| 13:18.28 | karsten | phogg: man interfaces. Use 'up' or 'post-up' keywords. Or /etc/network/ifup.d/ |
| 13:18.32 | Guerin | stupid dpkg |
| 13:18.55 | karsten | Guerin: The time is later than you think. |
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| 13:19.14 | karsten | Shit. Later than I thought too. |
| 13:19.14 | Adri2000 | i have a broken package because there is a dependance problem, but the dependance is in fact not needed, so, can i make this package not brocken any more, or ignore it so i can make apt-get upgrade |
| 13:19.51 | Guerin | karsten: in this case, you're right, because my fucking box is 11 minutes slow, and nothing will fix0r it |
| 13:19.52 | phogg | karsten: thanks |
| 13:20.13 | \amethyst | Adri2000: as long as it's not a versioned depends, equivs should work |
| 13:20.24 | keep_it_real | karsten: is there any program which can scan the vmw file and tell which codec is needed to sound playback ? |
| 13:20.32 | \amethyst | Adri2000: it makes a fake package that provides the dependencies you specify |
| 13:20.37 | wols_ | guerin! you back in civilization yet? |
| 13:21.09 | Guerin | wols_: i haven't left civilisation this whole time ... I've been in China |
| 13:21.16 | Adri2000 | ok \amethyst equivs... |
| 13:21.32 | karsten | keep_it_real: 'file' may do that. Dunno specifically. wmv == Windows Media File, I thought that was relatively standard, but hey, it's MSFT. |
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| 13:22.58 | karsten | Guerin: MSFT beat you to the punch ;-) |
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| 13:23.25 | Guerin | karsten: they usually do |
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| 13:23.54 | karsten | Guerin: Innit the truth? |
| 13:23.55 | keep_it_real | karsten: thank ya :) |
| 13:24.02 | karsten | keep_it_real: NP |
| 13:24.47 | cor | hi, im having problems using lftp connecting to ftps server |
| 13:25.09 | cor | on the debian site, it says its a tool for connecting to ftps among others |
| 13:25.19 | cor | but ssl is not listed as dependency |
| 13:25.32 | wols_ | Guerin: please let me keep my western imperialistic mindset |
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| 13:25.37 | wols_ | but glad to see you again :) |
| 13:25.56 | cor | is there a special reason for this or should i make the package myself? |
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| 13:29.15 | Guerin | wols_: s/western/civilised/ and you'd be right at home |
| 13:29.20 | EasterSunshine | hi this is my first time using debian, what package should i install to get a minimal kde? like on ububntu, i would install kubuntu-desktop |
| 13:29.52 | EasterSunshine | apt-get install kde downloads 197 megs |
| 13:30.13 | Guerin | karsten: kdebase or kde-core |
| 13:30.15 | Guerin | EasterSunshine: |
| 13:30.33 | EasterSunshine | ok thanks |
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| 13:31.02 | karsten | !lose Guerin |
| 13:31.02 | dpkg | Guerin: You Lose. |
| 13:31.39 | EasterSunshine | and another small thing, i asked it to only install printserver packages yet it has also installed ssh a bunch of xfree86 things. is that normal? |
| 13:31.44 | \amethyst | cor: lftp here depends GNU TLS |
| 13:31.53 | EasterSunshine | sshd that is |
| 13:32.01 | \amethyst | cor: in unstable, that is |
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| 13:32.38 | phyrster | I am thinking of buying a usb2.0 P |
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| 13:32.40 | cor | ok, so i can use just the unstable version of lftp then |
| 13:32.47 | cor | \amethyst: thanks |
| 13:32.51 | phyrster | oops, usb2.0 pci card |
| 13:33.00 | phyrster | is this supported under debian? |
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| 13:33.14 | phyrster | do I need to install any drivers for it ? |
| 13:33.23 | Guerin | phyrster: should be supported in kernel |
| 13:33.30 | phyrster | I mean a pci card that has usb 2.0 interface. |
| 13:33.42 | phyrster | so that I can faster usb tranfer rate. |
| 13:33.44 | Guerin | phyrster: nothing to do with debian, except insofar as debian kernels support ehci, which tyhey do |
| 13:34.02 | phyrster | Guerin: I am using debian. |
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| 13:34.15 | phyrster | Guerin: ehci. I see. |
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| 13:37.36 | EasterSunshine | how can i change the console resolution? it's at 720x400 but i would like 640x480 |
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| 13:38.27 | damko | hi all |
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| 13:38.33 | Guerin | EasterSunshine: man hwinfo |
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| 13:38.47 | EasterSunshine | thx Guerin |
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| 13:39.54 | abrotman | !moo |
| 13:39.54 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 13:40.53 | damko | have someone experience with gigabit lan ? |
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| 13:42.18 | FaithX | damko: wassup |
| 13:42.53 | damko | i have 2 realtek 8169 10/100/1000 |
| 13:43.05 | damko | i use module r1000 as suggested in realtek site |
| 13:43.12 | arrai | hello, I try to burn a CD with k3b, but nothing happens. dmesg returns the following line about 10 times:hdd: lost interrupt |
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| 13:43.21 | damko | kernel recognizes them as 1000 (from syslog) |
| 13:43.40 | dorel | is there some argument for display to run on full screen? |
| 13:43.48 | damko | 2 realtek are connected by a cross cat 5e FTP cable |
| 13:43.56 | tzafrir | arrai, are you sure that the burner is on /dev/hdd ? Also: what kernel version? |
| 13:44.38 | damko | if i try to copy a file from a pc to the other using scp or nfs or samba i can't reach any speed greater than 100Mbit/sec (12.5MByte) |
| 13:44.46 | arrai | Yes, the dev is correct. I use 2.6.14-1-386 |
| 13:45.04 | damko | question is: it should be the driver? or the cable ? or what? |
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| 13:45.54 | dorel | ok i can use xloadimage instead of display |
| 13:46.16 | FaithX | damko: what bus do you have the card in? |
| 13:46.29 | damko | FaithX: pci 32 bit |
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| 13:46.44 | FaithX | damko: and what's your cpu doing during transfer? |
| 13:47.13 | ac3 | what´s the advantage when using hardware raid over software raid apart from speed differences? |
| 13:47.18 | damko | FaithX: don't know exactly. let me check. if i remember well i use about 33% |
| 13:47.21 | damko | using scp |
| 13:48.06 | FaithX | damko: see what you get with samba |
| 13:48.22 | damko | oh i have no more than 5,6 MByte/sec |
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| 13:49.02 | dorel | can i bind functionatlity to the (esc) key so when im on xorg and i press ESC it actually does ALT+F4 (closes the curren runing program?) |
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| 13:49.30 | damko | FaithX: it's just as a 100Mbit... no difference |
| 13:49.44 | damko | FaithX: do u have a giagbit? which chipset? |
| 13:50.34 | FaithX | damko: not on hand I don't... but I have machines with Broadcom and Intel |
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| 13:51.14 | FaithX | damko: do you see the cards detect at 1000Mbps? |
| 13:51.27 | abrotman | !u |
| 13:51.27 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 13:51.51 | damko | FaithX: |
| 13:51.53 | abrotman | mii-tool or etherconf make a difference? |
| 13:51.54 | damko | yes |
| 13:52.05 | damko | FaithX: wait for paste bin |
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| 13:54.52 | damko | FaithX: http://pastebin.com/623160 |
| 13:55.31 | damko | abrotman: i never used them till noe |
| 13:55.34 | damko | now |
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| 13:56.35 | FaithX | damko: try a longer 20M+ cable |
| 13:57.23 | damko | FaithX: it's 30m right now |
| 13:57.53 | FaithX | damko: then it's not likely to be reflections |
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| 13:58.49 | damko | FaithX: do u think it's too long ? |
| 13:58.53 | FaithX | damko: look for shared irq |
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| 13:59.39 | FaithX | damko: no, you can have issues with a cable too short on occasion |
| 13:59.39 | abrotman | unkink the hose! |
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| 14:00.56 | damko | abrotman: what does it means unkink ? |
| 14:01.08 | pjv | how do i add a gnome start menu in a gdesklet? what is the command for a gnome start menu? |
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| 14:01.17 | abrotman | damko: like a garden hose .. when you kink it and the water doesn't flow :) |
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| 14:02.59 | damko | abrotman: simply i can't understand which should be the problem to start to search |
| 14:03.27 | damko | abrotman: cable seems ok. cards too .. but speed is slow. and no experience on gigabit till noe |
| 14:03.29 | damko | npw |
| 14:03.31 | damko | now |
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| 14:04.23 | abrotman | damko: right .. check the interrupts .. what kind of cable is it? do you have a gigabit switch? |
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| 14:04.52 | gentgeen__ | I keep getting an error from GDM about my .dmrc file, but the ownership & permissions are correct. Google just says "chmod 755 /home/$USER" but there is no way I am making $HOME dirs. 755 :) --- any other solutions? |
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| 14:06.33 | pantera | ola |
| 14:06.41 | abrotman | !br |
| 14:06.42 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:06.55 | pantera | hi |
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| 14:07.30 | damko | abrotman: no it's a cat5e FTP cross cable. no switch |
| 14:07.35 | pantera | where are you |
| 14:07.58 | Adri2000 | !fr |
| 14:07.59 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 14:10.37 | possie | is there away to permit users to chown files or directory to an owner/group which they are not a part of? |
| 14:11.04 | netman1 | possie: yes, by wrapping the chown in sudo. |
| 14:11.14 | FishermansFriend | hi there, I got a problem to install drivers, can I ask for it here ? |
| 14:11.37 | netman1 | FishermansFriend: don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 14:12.08 | abrotman | damko: really? |
| 14:12.21 | damko | abrotman: yes |
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| 14:12.42 | abrotman | damko: have you tested this cable between two 100Mb cards? |
| 14:12.47 | damko | abrotman: do i need another cable ? |
| 14:12.55 | damko | abrotman: no till now |
| 14:12.57 | damko | it's new |
| 14:13.13 | abrotman | damko: try testing the cable between two 100Mb cards |
| 14:13.28 | damko | what do u expect by this ? |
| 14:13.40 | damko | less speed than 100 Mbit ? |
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| 14:13.45 | FishermansFriend | when I do "make" to compile my wifi dongle drivers, i got "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-k7/build: File or Directory does not exist." |
| 14:14.03 | abrotman | damko: sure |
| 14:14.14 | abrotman | !tell alapzaj[AWAY] about away |
| 14:14.17 | asg | FishermansFriend: module-assistant prepare |
| 14:14.35 | FishermansFriend | what is that asg ? |
| 14:14.56 | asg | FishermansFriend: it will setup the plumming to fix that issue |
| 14:15.00 | damko | abrotman: let's try . cu later |
| 14:15.12 | asg | FishermansFriend: if you don't have 'm-a', apt-get install module-assistant |
| 14:15.27 | FishermansFriend | ok its a command :) thx im trying it right now thanks asg |
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| 14:16.54 | FishermansFriend | asg I got a french debian, and when i run module-prepare it tells something like my kernel sources are not set |
| 14:17.16 | asg | FishermansFriend: type 'm-a prepare', it should download all the necessary bits |
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| 14:17.56 | FishermansFriend | ok im trying |
| 14:18.36 | FishermansFriend | i got same warning asg |
| 14:19.05 | FishermansFriend | I got a debian testing, with 2.6.15.1-K7 kernel |
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| 14:20.03 | FishermansFriend | Im a noob and the system is freshly installed, I added the source from the tar.gz and symlinked /usr/src/linux to them ... |
| 14:20.19 | MoRLoCh | FishermansFriend: try ln -s /path/to/kernel/sources /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-k7/build |
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| 14:20.32 | FishermansFriend | ok :) |
| 14:20.32 | dvs | FishermansFriend: Should have "apt-get linux-source-$(uname -r)" |
| 14:20.43 | kristalino | any US native people here ? |
| 14:20.43 | d4rksh4de | hi |
| 14:21.05 | dvs | oops forgot an install in there somewhere ;-) |
| 14:21.06 | d4rksh4de | how to set DNS addresses? |
| 14:21.11 | FishermansFriend | no such package dvs, u think my sources.list are wrong ? |
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| 14:21.39 | Adri2000 | d4rksh4de: edit your /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:21.49 | d4rksh4de | ok thanks |
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| 14:22.20 | asg | kristalino: try #apache |
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| 14:23.04 | damko | FaithX: nothing ... the same |
| 14:23.12 | dvs | FishermansFriend: Try "apt-get install linux-image-$(uname -r)" Forgive me, it's early |
| 14:23.29 | damko | i think the only way is to test them on win. if they work ok .. it's the driver |
| 14:23.44 | FishermansFriend | asg thx, module-assistant prepare displays the same warnings, but my drivers seems to be compiling :) |
| 14:23.46 | damko | FaithX: what do u think about this idea? |
| 14:23.54 | asg | FishermansFriend: ah okay |
| 14:23.55 | FaithX | damko: try samba |
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| 14:24.29 | obscuresoul | i want to install the mysql. which package contains it? |
| 14:24.29 | damko | FaithX: the same |
| 14:24.45 | asg | obscuresoul: apt-cache search mysql server |
| 14:24.50 | crazy_penguin | hi everyone |
| 14:25.11 | damko | FaithX: with samba I can reach 5,6 ~ 10 MBytes/sec |
| 14:25.19 | FaithX | damko: then I guess it's one of 2 thinks... crappy rtl card... |
| 14:25.29 | FaithX | damko: or bus congestion |
| 14:25.43 | damko | with scp till 12.5MBytes which is exactly 100Mbit |
| 14:25.44 | FaithX | try it in the first pci slot |
| 14:25.45 | obscuresoul | asg tks |
| 14:25.59 | damko | FaithX: i thought the same. to change slot |
| 14:26.00 | crazy_penguin | i'm new to debian (i used other distros before). is there for sarge a newer kernel version than 2.6.8-3? |
| 14:26.06 | damko | FaithX: i'll test it |
| 14:26.12 | damko | FaithX: thanks a lot 4 now |
| 14:26.13 | FaithX | damko: bearing well in mind you are using a 32bit 33MHz slot |
| 14:26.13 | asg | crazy_penguin: only if you compile it yourself |
| 14:26.19 | crazy_penguin | ok |
| 14:26.32 | asg | crazy_penguin: there are some non-official debs floating around also |
| 14:26.33 | crazy_penguin | from where can i get the source code? |
| 14:26.42 | asg | crazy_penguin: kernel.org |
| 14:26.46 | crazy_penguin | thanks |
| 14:27.00 | dvs | crazy_penguin: you could try backports.org |
| 14:27.13 | damko | FaithX: 32 bit |
| 14:27.22 | damko | maybe 33 |
| 14:27.25 | damko | MHz |
| 14:27.37 | damko | I have to check on the mobo manual |
| 14:27.44 | FaithX | damko: how much data can a 33Mhz bus move... |
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| 14:27.53 | d4rksh4de | is there any IRC client that i can use with debian? |
| 14:27.54 | damko | FaithX: don't know |
| 14:27.58 | wols_ | FaithX: 133MBit/s max in the best of cases |
| 14:28.02 | asg | d4rksh4de: lots |
| 14:28.02 | Eulex | d4rksh4de, lots. |
| 14:28.16 | FaithX | damko: there you have it... |
| 14:28.18 | damko | FaithX: uhmm |
| 14:28.18 | ptlis | x-chat |
| 14:28.20 | wols_ | damko: x-chat, irssi, bitchx are the most used ones |
| 14:28.21 | asg | d4rksh4de: apt-cache search irc client |
| 14:28.30 | crazy_penguin | dvs and asg: thank you |
| 14:28.33 | tarzeau | talksoup.app is nice too |
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| 14:28.53 | wols_ | tarzeau: I still don't get why you aren't running osx... |
| 14:28.56 | d4rksh4de | how to install x-chat? |
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| 14:28.57 | ion_bidon | hello, how do I update the grub/menu.lst file ? |
| 14:29.04 | damko | FaithX: so i need 66MHz bus |
| 14:29.05 | tarzeau | wols_: it's about free software |
| 14:29.06 | wols_ | ion_bidon: with an editor |
| 14:29.10 | tarzeau | wols_: and hardware price |
| 14:29.18 | tarzeau | wols_: i run openstep. i don't like mac os x |
| 14:29.25 | FaithX | damko: you need pcix to realize the speed |
| 14:29.26 | ion_bidon | wols_: of course, can't I automatically update it ? |
| 14:29.29 | tarzeau | wols_: their slow animations that can't be turned off are retarded |
| 14:29.45 | d4rksh4de | apt-get x-chat? |
| 14:29.48 | ptlis | apt-get install xchat |
| 14:29.49 | wols_ | ion_bidon: you can, any kernel package install does it. doesn't mean it updates bug free |
| 14:29.53 | d4rksh4de | ok thanks |
| 14:29.56 | damko | FaithX: what i have to search to get table like that 33MHz = max 133 Mbit .. or how should I learn to calculate it ? |
| 14:30.00 | ptlis | I don't believe the hyphen is required. |
| 14:30.03 | ion_bidon | wols_: hmm ok thanks |
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| 14:30.21 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 14:30.22 | dpkg | i guess qotd152 is <jair_11> guys a secure and good ftp client for linux? | <jair_11> yes with gui |
| 14:30.42 | wols_ | damko: 133 MByte/s. very different. and it's the (theoretical) max stemming from the design of PCI |
| 14:30.57 | wols_ | in practice you might get around 80MB/s max but for the whole PCI bus |
| 14:31.07 | pinucset | it's me or the repositorios updates one time a day (00.00)? |
| 14:31.27 | wols_ | pinucset: depends on the repository I'd say |
| 14:31.40 | damko | wols_: so 80MB/s are shared for all the pci slots ? |
| 14:31.42 | pinucset | ok :) wols_ |
| 14:31.58 | wols_ | damko: real world: yes. depends on chipset too |
| 14:32.01 | FaithX | http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:JgpIZETT4CgJ:www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/rich/PFLDnet2003/Rich_GigEth_PFLDNet_v2.ppt+pci+bus+max+throughput&hl=en&gl=au&ct=clnk&cd=3&client=firefox |
| 14:32.32 | wols_ | usually intel chipsets are better than the rest (intel designed PCI) for example |
| 14:32.36 | mtyhome | someone here knows howto make gnash work under firefox? |
| 14:33.32 | damko | wols_: thanks. i'm reading the mobo manual right to understand better |
| 14:33.57 | FaithX | http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_PCI_Express.html nice chart |
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| 14:34.28 | wols_ | damko: the take home lesson is: a 32bit, 33MHz PCI bus is too slow for GBit ethernet |
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| 14:35.02 | FaithX | PCI-Express x41,000MBps |
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| 14:35.21 | wols_ | x4 are rare, and it's overkill to the factor of 8 for GBit ethernet |
| 14:35.38 | damko | mobo manual says they are all PCI 2.2 |
| 14:35.45 | FaithX | wols_: how is that? |
| 14:35.47 | wols_ | PCI-E are point to point connections IIRC. not shared like PCI |
| 14:36.14 | wols_ | FaithX: a PCI-E 1x is enough for GBit eth |
| 14:36.14 | FaithX | oh yes I see that now ... MBps not mbps |
| 14:36.53 | wols_ | yes they are (since we have PCI-E "lanes" or "channels" in chipsets |
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| 14:37.55 | dinamizador | hola |
| 14:38.52 | damko | http://www.fujitsu.com/downloads/MICRO/fmal/PCI2.2.pdf this says that 33MHz x 32bit can reach 133MByte. so it's enough for 1 Mbit |
| 14:38.54 | FaithX | damko: makes you wonder why they sell 1Gbps nic doesn't it... |
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| 14:39.37 | damko | sorry this says that 33MHz x 32bit can reach 133MByte. so it's enough for 1 Gbit |
| 14:39.41 | damko | isn't it? |
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| 14:42.10 | FaithX | damko: sure if you had no other devices on your pci bus .... like where are moving the data to... a hdd? |
| 14:42.13 | wols_ | damko: no |
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| 14:42.51 | wols_ | damko: this is theoretical max performance. you will never ever reach this in real world, while you NIC can reach its 1GBPs |
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| 14:42.55 | damko | FaithX: ... woo i have a scsi controller with 1 disk and a sata raid controller with 3 disks |
| 14:43.03 | wols_ | also it's shared bandwith, all PCI devices have to share that amount |
| 14:43.11 | damko | and i read from them when I move files to the other pc |
| 14:43.13 | wols_ | and e.g. your hdds are also on the PCI bus |
| 14:43.44 | FaithX | depends a lot on the chipset of the mobo too |
| 14:44.18 | wols_ | yes, intel chipsets had CSI for a long time. GBit ethernet on a separate connection (not on PCI bus) |
| 14:45.35 | damko | not i shut down and i remove everything except scsi controller |
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| 14:45.45 | damko | to see if it's go better |
| 14:46.14 | damko | oh no ... i have the limit on other machine too ... i can't remove anything from that pc |
| 14:46.19 | FaithX | damko: scsi is pci .... try create ramdisk on each end... but you will hit the pci bus max anyhow |
| 14:46.22 | damko | that's a problem |
| 14:46.51 | wols_ | damko: how fast is it right now? |
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| 14:48.39 | FaithX | damko: copy form /dev/shm to /dev/shm on the other box |
| 14:49.01 | damko | wols_: using scp i can reach 12.5 MB/s |
| 14:49.04 | FaithX | or whatever you tmpfs is mounted on |
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| 14:49.31 | damko | FaithX: something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/shm/file ? |
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| 14:49.49 | damko | bs=16k count=XXXX |
| 14:49.51 | wols_ | and you're sure linkspeed is 1000Mbps as shown by dmesg? |
| 14:50.01 | damko | wols_: yep |
| 14:50.15 | damko | wols_: http://pastebin.com/623160 |
| 14:50.39 | FaithX | bs=1024 |
| 14:50.46 | FaithX | 16k? |
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| 14:51.39 | FaithX | damko: whatch the size of the file.... |
| 14:51.45 | damko | FaithX: doing some test I found that 8k and 16K are the best blocks for the eth connection |
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| 14:51.52 | wols_ | damko: aer you using jumbo packets? |
| 14:51.53 | FaithX | remember it is ram you are using |
| 14:51.57 | d4rksh4de | anyone knows where to set DNS server addresses? |
| 14:52.06 | wols_ | d4rksh4de: /etc/resolvconf/ |
| 14:52.13 | wols_ | d4rksh4de: /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:52.15 | d4rksh4de | its emty |
| 14:52.23 | damko | wols_: i wrote i simple bash script to test the better bs |
| 14:52.24 | TANATHOS | d4rksh4de you must edit it |
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| 14:52.26 | dvs | d4rksh4de: that's bad! |
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| 14:52.27 | dvs | ;-) |
| 14:52.40 | damko | starting from 1 till 512k |
| 14:52.48 | d4rksh4de | how do i edit it then? |
| 14:53.01 | wols_ | damko: no bs. jump ethernet frames |
| 14:53.03 | damko | i found 8k and 16k to be always the best (30% 40% more ) |
| 14:53.06 | TANATHOS | !u |
| 14:53.07 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 14:53.11 | dvs | d4rksh4de: Just add "nameserver XX.XX.XX.XX" where XX.. is the IP of your DNS |
| 14:53.20 | d4rksh4de | ok |
| 14:53.22 | d4rksh4de | thanks |
| 14:53.28 | damko | wols_: can't understand what u mean |
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| 14:53.43 | wols_ | google it then |
| 14:53.51 | AM|R | how to set the xwindows to automatically run? |
| 14:54.01 | rvsjoen | doesn't that depend on versions ? mine says "do not edit by hand, changes will be overwritten", its generated by resolvconf. My dns addresses are listed in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:54.03 | wols_ | what is your MTU? |
| 14:54.12 | wols_ | AM|R: install a display manager |
| 14:54.15 | dvs | AM|R: you need a display manager |
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| 14:54.24 | dvs | AM|R: gnome or kde? |
| 14:54.28 | TANATHOS | rvsjoen - it's supposed to edit that in boot |
| 14:54.39 | wols_ | rvsjoen: depends if you use dhcp or not. I don't for example |
| 14:54.57 | d4rksh4de | ok i try it out |
| 14:54.57 | rvsjoen | ok |
| 14:55.01 | wols_ | rvsjoen: and yes I'm a bit used to woody where it wasn't in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:55.10 | AM|R | dvs kde |
| 14:55.13 | dvs | AM|R: apt-get install kdm |
| 14:55.34 | AM|R | ermm.. |
| 14:55.40 | wols_ | damko: if you don't use jumbo frames you create several times the irq load which slows down the link |
| 14:55.43 | AM|R | ok then.. anythin to set? |
| 14:55.51 | dvs | AM|R: Nope |
| 14:56.11 | AM|R | so it will automatically run KDE on next time boot? |
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| 14:56.16 | wols_ | AM|R: maybe set it to start automatically via update-rc.d |
| 14:56.19 | Yoric | Hi |
| 14:56.20 | dvs | AM|R: Yup |
| 14:56.41 | AM|R | thanks dvs |
| 14:56.47 | dvs | AM|R: you're welcome |
| 14:56.57 | abrotman | wols_: it will on its own by default |
| 14:57.52 | damko | wols_: i'm googling |
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| 14:58.29 | wols_ | damko: ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000 |
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| 14:59.01 | wols_ | but that needs to happen on BOTH computers in that LAN you wish to connect. in fact with all computers on that LAN |
| 14:59.34 | Yoric | I'm trying to get my WiFi to work. |
| 14:59.43 | damko | wols_: SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument |
| 14:59.50 | Yoric | As it turns out, in my case, it's either Intel's proprietary drivers or Ndiswrapper. |
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| 15:00.01 | Yoric | At the moment, I'm trying to get Ndiswrapper to work. |
| 15:00.21 | Yoric | Unfortunately, when modprobe-ing, it complains about undefined (Windows) symbols. |
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| 15:00.26 | Yoric | Any suggestion ? |
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| 15:01.10 | damko | wols_: root@dumper:~# ifconfig eth1 mtu 9000 |
| 15:01.32 | Arika | is there a way to search files with file size as a filter? |
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| 15:01.50 | Lopa | Hello, nyone knows of editors supporting UTF-8 || UTF-16 |
| 15:01.52 | nkuttler | Arika: find |
| 15:01.54 | asg | Arika: man find |
| 15:01.54 | damko | wols_: SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument |
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| 15:02.13 | nkuttler | Lopa: try yudit |
| 15:02.24 | wols_ | drivers need to aloow jumbo frames, and kernel and stuff |
| 15:02.28 | wols_ | better look up a howto |
| 15:02.41 | damko | wols_: doing right now |
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| 15:03.34 | Benbread | I'm not exactly sure if this is the correct place to ask this, but it seems the most appropriate: (thanks for your time) I'm currently attempting to dual-boot my linux and windows OS' - they're both installed and it was working until i decided to reinstall linux (debian etch), where grub failed and i'm now left with no bootloader. I'm likely to be asking many questions - firstly to which... |
| 15:03.36 | Benbread | ...partition should the boot parameter be set for grub to be happy, or does it not matter? Thanks :) |
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| 15:04.08 | asg | Benbread: try #grub first |
| 15:05.21 | Benbread | asg: thanks - i submitted this question to #grub but have not recieved a reply |
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| 15:05.29 | abrotman | they're sleepy in there |
| 15:05.35 | abrotman | !grub floppy image |
| 15:05.35 | dpkg | grub floppy image is probably ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/ |
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| 15:06.02 | Yoric | Does anyone have any suggestion on how to get ndiswrapper to work when it complains about undefined (Windows) symbols ? |
| 15:06.23 | Benbread | abrotman: This is where i start kicking myself that my computer doesn't have a floppy drive :P |
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| 15:06.33 | abrotman | Benbread: use a liveCD ? |
| 15:06.35 | Lopa | abrotman, knows of editors supporting UTF-8 || UTF-16 ? |
| 15:07.11 | wols_ | Benbread: you can burn that image to a (bootable) CD |
| 15:07.15 | Lopa | abrotman, i need an editor that would support arabic |
| 15:07.17 | Benbread | abrotman: I'm currently doing it through Debian installer, which may or may not work because it failed last time |
| 15:07.29 | wols_ | it's mostly a wasted CD of course but it does work |
| 15:07.37 | abrotman | Lopa: nfc |
| 15:07.41 | wols_ | or you can reinstall it via knoppix |
| 15:07.44 | abrotman | Benbread: i figure it would work |
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| 15:09.09 | Benbread | abrotman: so any clues to which partition i should assign the bootable flag (ntfs windows partition or ext3 linux partition)? The data contained on my windows partition is rather valuable to me and i'm a spanner for not making a recent backup |
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| 15:09.24 | abrotman | Benbread: huh? |
| 15:09.39 | stew | Benbread: linux doesn't care where the bootable flag is |
| 15:09.41 | Bac9 | lately I've been getting a lot of hits in my firewall to port 50000 udp, anyone know what that is? |
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| 15:10.06 | abrotman | check ISC |
| 15:10.22 | stew | Benbread: you only have to set the bootable flag if you are using a bootloader that looks for one, like the windows bootloaders, but if you are using grub or lilo you don't need to bother |
| 15:10.27 | Lopa | abrotman, do you have a link? |
| 15:10.37 | abrotman | Lopa: for what? |
| 15:10.47 | Lopa | 'nfc' |
| 15:10.52 | Benbread | thanks :) (abrotman: i'm stuck with a incomplete grub on the MBR that dies error 15, so i'm in a bit of a pickle) |
| 15:10.57 | derek_ | hi folks, I've had a debian install for a year and half or so now, just recently got very interested in learning more about debian/linux, the mobo in my debian box has onboard sound but I can't get anything out of it, (the sound setup works ok under windows so there isnt a hardware problem there) wondering could anybody point me in the direction of the files I need to examine to begin investigating what's the problem ? |
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| 15:11.31 | wols_ | Benbread: reinstall grub. setting bootable flags for the partial copy of grub on your MBR won't help |
| 15:11.35 | Lopa | abrotman, please supply me with the link |
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| 15:12.01 | wols_ | derek_: ac97 codec most probably. go to alsa-project.org and look there for it |
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| 15:12.27 | Bac9 | abrotman: isc? |
| 15:12.28 | Benbread | wols_: That's what i'm doing - i was just making sure i was correct at this step |
| 15:12.32 | derek_ | wols_: ta for that, will check it out |
| 15:12.38 | abrotman | Bac9: isc.sans.org |
| 15:12.47 | abrotman | Lopa: LINK FOR WHAT? |
| 15:12.47 | Bac9 | abrotman: thanx |
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| 15:13.09 | abrotman | Benbread: google say anything about error 15? |
| 15:13.14 | Lopa | <abrotman> Lopa: nfc |
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| 15:13.31 | abrotman | !nfc |
| 15:13.32 | dpkg | i heard nfc is No Fucking Clue. National Football Conference |
| 15:13.37 | TeemuM | bac9: http://www.seifried.org/security/ports/50000/50000.html |
| 15:13.53 | Lopa | loool |
| 15:13.59 | Lopa | Sorry |
| 15:14.15 | wols_ | Benbread: if grub does run but just can't load the kernel. you can "edit" grub copnfig while booting manually and boot the right kernel |
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| 15:14.28 | wols_ | if grub can't find one f its own files: tough luck :( |
| 15:14.29 | Benbread | abrotman: after checking google it seems it might not be error 15, but it looks to me like an internet grub problem, as it doesn't get to the selector |
| 15:14.39 | abrotman | internet grub problem ? |
| 15:14.39 | Bac9 | TeemuM: nothing usefull there |
| 15:14.52 | Benbread | *internal sorry |
| 15:15.02 | Arika | sh -c /usr/bin/zsoelim /tmp/zmancm0q9L | /usr/bin/tbl | /usr/bin/nroff -mandoc -Tlatin1 | exec /usr/bin/pager -s |
| 15:15.07 | jetscreamer | unless of course you hit the udev/initrd/>2.6.12 bug |
| 15:15.10 | Arika | does this look like suspicious activity to you? |
| 15:15.22 | jetscreamer | oh add multiple controllers |
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| 15:17.07 | stew | Arika: that is someone reading a manpage |
| 15:17.31 | Bac9 | abrotman: nothing usefull there, guess it's just another of those mystery ports |
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| 15:18.12 | Madboy_ | i am using debian 64 bit |
| 15:18.24 | Madboy_ | i need source list for 64 bit. help me pls |
| 15:18.38 | Madboy_ | apt.get source.list :( |
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| 15:19.00 | tarzeau | hehe |
| 15:19.10 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 15:19.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 15:19.12 | stew | Madboy_: copy your "deb" line in sources.list and make it a "deb-src", man sources.list ; /msg dpkg source |
| 15:19.14 | tarzeau | ia64 amd64 linux or kfreebsd? |
| 15:19.18 | tarzeau | there's at least 5 64bit |
| 15:19.21 | Eulex | !mirrors |
| 15:19.21 | dpkg | well, debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 15:19.27 | abrotman | noone uses kfreebsd |
| 15:19.34 | tarzeau | alpha, sparc, amd64 linux, amd64 bsd, ia64 |
| 15:19.46 | tarzeau | abrotman: oh yes. check out POPCON |
| 15:19.52 | abrotman | you forgot MIPS you insensitive clod |
| 15:19.57 | tarzeau | AND MIPS |
| 15:20.04 | tarzeau | and HPPA |
| 15:20.10 | wols_ | MIPS is dead, netcraft confirms it |
| 15:20.17 | wols_ | HPPA is too |
| 15:20.19 | tarzeau | wols_: i've got a mips here |
| 15:20.20 | wols_ | intel said so |
| 15:20.27 | abrotman | wols_: luckily IA64 is our saviour! |
| 15:20.32 | wols_ | exactly |
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| 15:21.42 | wols_ | have you heard, japanese megacoprs might buy IA64 |
| 15:21.59 | wols_ | as the inquirer puts it: there's only the question how muhc intel has to pay for them to take it :) |
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| 15:22.05 | abrotman | heh |
| 15:22.18 | mortal__ | is ia64 fast? |
| 15:22.27 | abrotman | how fast can you push? |
| 15:22.41 | wols_ | it has a fast FPU. everything else and I mean everything, is shit |
| 15:22.57 | wols_ | wriing good programs for it is a nightmare due to scheudling |
| 15:22.59 | abrotman | the chipset bus speed is pretty good iirc |
| 15:23.00 | wols_ | *scheduling |
| 15:23.35 | sonyman | My bash terminal in tty2 is all distorted. The characters look like little boxes and wierd characters. How can I fix it? |
| 15:23.43 | mortal__ | weird |
| 15:23.49 | abrotman | why weird? |
| 15:23.54 | Eulex | sonyman, reset |
| 15:24.05 | Eulex | hmm, and something that just had a good fpu was meant for servers? funny |
| 15:24.14 | sonyman | Eulex: thanks :-) |
| 15:24.24 | abrotman | Eulex: alpha has good FPU .. as does MIPS |
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| 15:25.14 | sonyman | Is there a way to tell alien to ignore an architecture mismatch when converting a package? |
| 15:25.32 | Eulex | abrotman, well, what I mean is, you don't need a fast fpu on a server for most tasks. |
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| 15:26.29 | abrotman | Eulex: right .. but ia64 is not the first "server" cpu to have good FPU .. |
| 15:27.03 | wols_ | Eulex: but it'd make a good workstation one |
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| 15:27.22 | Eulex | wols_, that's sure |
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| 15:28.15 | rafael5 | is it possible to install debian sarge on an dell poweredge 830? |
| 15:28.32 | abrotman | are you having problems with it ? |
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| 15:29.20 | seuche | hi |
| 15:29.21 | rafael5 | not yet thats the question if it is possible to install sarge we will buy a dell |
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| 15:30.25 | wols_ | rafael5: check the chipset that dell has and check if linux (vanilla kernel) supports it. if it does, there are no problems to anticipate |
| 15:30.45 | wols_ | sarge useus kernel 2.6.8 by default btw |
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| 15:31.35 | rafael5 | i have checkt this but seems that the support for the chipset is not so good http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/wiki/index.cgi?pci%3apoweredge%20830 |
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| 15:32.00 | d4rksh4de | woohoo im on Debian :) |
| 15:32.34 | thingfish | yay! for d4rksh4de |
| 15:32.46 | d4rksh4de | :) |
| 15:32.56 | rafael5 | if sarge dont work because of the 2.6.8 kernel than maybee etch work? |
| 15:33.07 | d4rksh4de | at least i got the internet working |
| 15:33.12 | wols_ | the only thing that doesn't seem to work accordint to this page is USB, and I actually doubt intel usb is not supported under linux |
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| 15:33.59 | wols_ | rafael5: you can run sarge with a 2.6.16 kernel for example. so no worries there |
| 15:34.20 | d4rksh4de | anyone knows how to format 1 partition in harddrive? |
| 15:34.32 | wols_ | d4rksh4de: man mkfs.ext3 |
| 15:34.34 | rafael5 | yes but can i install sarge? |
| 15:34.46 | rafael5 | else i need to make a custom iso |
| 15:34.46 | wols_ | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 15:34.46 | dpkg | i guess sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 15:34.47 | abrotman | !tell rafael5 about sarge 2.6.15 |
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| 15:35.05 | d4rksh4de | wols_, mkfs.ext3 ? |
| 15:35.18 | wols_ | d4rksh4de: yes. read its manpage |
| 15:35.35 | wols_ | that is you you want to format it with ext3fs |
| 15:35.35 | d4rksh4de | wols_, where? |
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| 15:35.43 | rafael5 | thanks |
| 15:35.51 | wols_ | man mkfs.ext3. type it |
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| 15:36.03 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 15:36.03 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about "docs", "unix lessons", "reference", "fundamentals", "newbiedoc", "refcard", "faq". (e.g. type /msg dpkg reference in your irc client) |
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| 15:37.15 | sonyman | Is there a way to tell alien to ignore an architecture mismatch when converting a package? |
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| 15:49.04 | valdyn | sonyman: what are you trying to convert? |
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| 15:50.14 | dany | hi |
| 15:50.24 | jair | hello guys?? |
| 15:50.41 | valdyn | !hi |
| 15:50.42 | dpkg | hello, valdyn |
| 15:51.09 | blondie | hmm quiet in here ;o |
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| 15:52.39 | sonyman | valdyn: render |
| 15:52.45 | dany | yestrday the psu on my pc burned .... i changed it all were ok at reboot and this morning the new psu burned too!!! what s the prob?? |
| 15:53.02 | sussudio | dany: bunnies |
| 15:53.12 | dany | ? |
| 15:53.22 | sussudio | !tell dany about bunnies |
| 15:54.03 | valdyn | sonyman: render? why dont you use the debian package? |
| 15:54.20 | dany | doesn t help me suss... |
| 15:54.37 | sonyman | valdyn: I'm using xfree 3.3.6 |
| 15:54.53 | sussudio | dany: that's what you get for not asking an actual question concerning debian |
| 15:54.56 | blondie | dany: dodgy mains power? |
| 15:55.05 | blondie | and that |
| 15:55.19 | wols_ | dany: and even the questions doesn't make any sense when viewed outside from debian |
| 15:55.28 | sussudio | "my car won't start, but i run debian on my pc somewhere! help me with my car!" |
| 15:55.36 | dany | sorry for that sussu i m in #hardware but anyone speak |
| 15:55.43 | valdyn | sonyman: what would be the point of installing render with xfree 3.3.6? does it even support render? |
| 15:55.47 | blondie | dany: so |
| 15:55.53 | sonyman | valdyn: no. But I need it for gtk2 |
| 15:56.05 | blondie | !they won't help |
| 15:56.07 | blondie | hm |
| 15:56.16 | wols_ | either something inside your PC is broken in a non obvious way (like drawing too much power), or your mains power has some problem |
| 15:56.31 | wols_ | neither is anything ew can confirum or fix or whatever. so asking it here is fruitless |
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| 15:57.17 | valdyn | sonyman: you can always use alien to convert to tgz and then to deb, that would delete any arch info, still doubt that this would work though |
| 15:57.51 | sonyman | valdyn: hmm I might try that. thanks |
| 15:58.00 | dany | i m on debian, my brother is on xp .... it s his pc who burned , i chnaged his pc type from monoprocessor apic to standard pc could it be the source of the problem ??? |
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| 15:58.15 | cbr | what is the difference of discover and discover1? |
| 15:58.23 | cbr | which to use on my system? |
| 15:58.34 | Lingo | I've tried to compile a lot of things from source, and almost every time, ompiled |
| 15:58.38 | Lingo | sorry |
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| 15:58.41 | wols_ | dany: no |
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| 15:59.06 | valdyn | cbr: whichever works for you |
| 15:59.07 | dany | ok |
| 15:59.24 | dany | so it s damn crazy i m not lucky |
| 15:59.27 | cbr | valdyn: well both work |
| 15:59.55 | valdyn | cbr: then just use whatever is installed right now or roll a dice |
| 16:00.00 | Lingo | I've tried to compile a lot of things from source, and almost every time, "./configure" has failed, saying it's missing "KDE headers". What does this mean, and how do I make it work? |
| 16:00.28 | asg | Lingo: /msg dpkg compile kde stuff |
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| 16:01.50 | tzafrir | asg, how do I get the list of dpkg's "dictionary words"? |
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| 16:02.17 | tzafrir | (yes, I tried the obvious /msg dpkg help) |
| 16:03.07 | Lingo | asg: That links to a page about missing QT headers, and I got past that. What I'm missing is the KDE headers, and I think they're different. |
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| 16:05.59 | dany | setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout fr --> how can i save this ??? |
| 16:06.01 | tarzeau | cbr: discover won't be used anymore with 2.6 installers |
| 16:06.09 | tarzeau | cbr: that'll be etch |
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| 16:06.32 | cbr | tarzeau: so discover is the way to go? |
| 16:06.45 | tarzeau | cbr: discover is version 2... yes |
| 16:06.55 | tarzeau | die-Sel: installer sarge uses 1.x which is replaced by 2 after install imho |
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| 16:07.23 | valdyn | Lingo: apt-get install kde-devel |
| 16:07.25 | Neverther | dany, what you mean by 'saving'? |
| 16:08.37 | dany | i have to type it everytime xorg start |
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| 16:08.53 | Lingo | valdyn: that conflicts gnome-core, gnome-applets, and others. Is that supposed to happen? |
| 16:08.55 | dany | or i don t have @|.. |
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| 16:09.29 | valdyn | Lingo: yes |
| 16:09.49 | valdyn | Lingo: due to fam iirc, that's how it is |
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| 16:09.58 | abrotman | why would kde-devel conflict with gnome stuff? |
| 16:10.17 | valdyn | Lingo: you can fix this manually by apt-get install(ing) fam libfam-dev etc |
| 16:10.52 | valdyn | abrotman: because gnome needs fam or ganim, kde-devel needs libfam-dev and the dependencies cant be resolved correctly by apt-get |
| 16:11.40 | abrotman | stupid apt! |
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| 16:11.54 | vin` | aptitude fixed the deps fine here, libgamin-dev is to be installed. |
| 16:11.55 | valdyn | abrotman: libfam-dev will conflict with ganim and apt-get doesnt figure out that it could just install fam instead |
| 16:11.56 | noideaatall | hi , i got my pc configured with dhcp ... but i needed to rest the router .... how do make the pc to try and get a new ip adress from dhcp |
| 16:12.02 | noideaatall | something like ipconfig -renew |
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| 16:12.42 | Vegar | sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 |
| 16:12.49 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 16:12.55 | Lingo | thanks valdyn, it works. |
| 16:12.56 | Lingo | bye |
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| 16:14.19 | noideaatall | thankyo it worked |
| 16:14.28 | valdyn | vin`: that's a different situation, the one im talking about cannot be resolved by a package management system that only has _individual_ packages dependency information |
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| 16:15.15 | vin` | valdyn: ok. |
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| 16:15.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: moo |
| 16:15.25 | tarzeau | torcs sucks |
| 16:15.30 | abrotman | tarzeau: popcon |
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| 16:15.39 | tarzeau | abrotman: you do it! |
| 16:15.49 | abrotman | tarzeau: you don't pay me enough! |
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| 16:15.57 | tarzeau | abrotman: you can have 5 cents |
| 16:15.59 | Andy298 | how do i check if a file is a symlink? |
| 16:16.04 | abrotman | ls -l |
| 16:16.09 | tarzeau | Andy298: symlink |
| 16:16.13 | tarzeau | s |
| 16:16.19 | tarzeau | or stat |
| 16:16.33 | blondie | ls -l being the easiest :P |
| 16:16.37 | stew | Andy298: test -L filename |
| 16:16.43 | abrotman | i think find and test can do it |
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| 16:16.45 | abrotman | bah stew! |
| 16:16.53 | Andy298 | ok how do i remove a symlink? |
| 16:16.57 | abrotman | rm |
| 16:16.59 | abrotman | unlink |
| 16:17.00 | Andy298 | i don't want to delete what its linked to!? |
| 16:17.00 | Vegar | rm symlink |
| 16:17.01 | tarzeau | file also tells you |
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| 16:17.15 | tarzeau | but why do you want to remove the symlink? |
| 16:17.25 | tarzeau | Andy298: delete the symlink only then |
| 16:17.26 | blondie | you just "rm" the symlink |
| 16:17.35 | tarzeau | Andy298: are you sure you need your shell? |
| 16:17.42 | Andy298 | so rm symlink_name |
| 16:17.51 | Andy298 | and that won't delete what the symlink links to? |
| 16:17.57 | tarzeau | 18:13 [gnu] CTCP VERSION reply from Andy298: mIRC v6.16 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
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| 16:18.14 | tarzeau | buy two symlinks and get the third for free! |
| 16:18.45 | blondie | lol mirc |
| 16:18.47 | blondie | Andy298: no |
| 16:19.02 | valdyn | Andy298: rm -f would delete the target of the link also |
| 16:19.15 | tarzeau | valdyn: you'll overheat his brain |
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| 16:19.47 | blondie | valdyn: wtf are you talking about? |
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| 16:20.28 | supadupa | how do i get debian to remember my volume preferences? |
| 16:20.41 | tarzeau | supadupa: alsa or not? |
| 16:20.47 | supadupa | alsa |
| 16:20.49 | tarzeau | supadupa: per user ? |
| 16:20.54 | blondie | Andy298: rm -f will NOT remove the target |
| 16:20.55 | valdyn | blondie: uh? man rm |
| 16:20.59 | supadupa | doesnt matter |
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| 16:21.02 | blondie | -f does not remove link targets |
| 16:21.24 | blondie | valdyn: read it yourself |
| 16:21.50 | valdyn | blondie: you're right, I was wrong |
| 16:21.54 | blondie | :P |
| 16:22.03 | thefish_ | fsck -y |
| 16:22.05 | supadupa | for all users would be fine |
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| 16:24.23 | Microsucks | :) |
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| 16:25.58 | fat | hi, is it possible to assign two different hd's to the same mount point? |
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| 16:26.28 | weissi | fat, normally not, you could try union fs (didn't test it) |
| 16:27.06 | fat | will try. thanks weissi |
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| 16:27.11 | thefish_ | sudo ftl |
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| 16:28.07 | chealer9 | fat: yes |
| 16:28.13 | kensai | tell me if I'm right the current nvidia package in unstable does not support the latest 2.6.16 kernel in unstable? |
| 16:28.24 | abrotman | check the bts |
| 16:28.30 | chealer9 | kensai: it's looking that way |
| 16:28.52 | fat | chealer9, just add a disk and mount as usual? |
| 16:29.19 | kensai | ok |
| 16:29.34 | chealer9 | fat: you need to have a way to split a filesystem over several HDs to do this. like RAID or LVM, AFAIK |
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| 16:29.55 | fat | chealer9, aha ok yeah that's what i was trying to bypass ;) thanks! |
| 16:29.56 | dorel | can i re-map the keys of my keyboard and their actions so that if i press the ESC key it's actually the same as pressing ALT+F4? |
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| 16:30.15 | valdyn | dorel: depends on your WM |
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| 16:30.30 | hound | hi all, just done a netinst of debian and my screen resolution on my tft is not 1280x960 - it is 800x600 - how can i change it? |
| 16:30.49 | chealer9 | !drxx hound |
| 16:30.49 | dpkg | hound: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 16:30.56 | chealer9 | fat: cheater! |
| 16:31.18 | hound | !drxx xmd5 |
| 16:31.19 | dpkg | xmd5: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 16:32.17 | hound | I modified the XF86 file by hand adding the higher resolution, but no success any ideas? the dpkg thing requires me to state the video card and I don't know what it is on this old machine. |
| 16:32.29 | Pegger | he i have a bunch of giles taht have a ;1 at the end of them and i want to rename them so that they dont have the ;1 andy more what is the best way to do that |
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| 16:33.29 | cjaymes | Pegger, man bash; there's a section on regex substitution that will prove helpful |
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| 16:34.19 | cjaymes | Pegger, something like ${/;1//} I think |
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| 16:34.36 | hound | cjaymes, what shell is that? |
| 16:34.43 | cjaymes | hound, bash? |
| 16:34.46 | js_ | not bash, but almost |
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| 16:35.08 | cjaymes | that was cjsh |
| 16:35.16 | cjaymes | in otherwords, a guess |
| 16:35.24 | hound | I was expecting somthing like ${var....etc |
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| 16:35.40 | js_ | Pegger: "rename 's/;1$//' files" if you have perl installed |
| 16:35.47 | chealer9 | hound: what do you mean exactly by "state the video card"? |
| 16:36.07 | st0ner | with the new glib irssi does not quit smoothly |
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| 16:36.14 | pokkie | ok, lets say i have 2 machines (m1) and (m2). (m1) has a sucessfully mounted a samba share on (m2). (m1) now tries to copy data to (m2), but it says "cannot create regular file". (m1) has a user/group of bob/bob. (m2) has a user/group of john/john. now on (m2) i create a user account bob/bob and assign both bob/bob and john/john to the users group. i change the group ownership of the share on (m2) to users. what else is need for (m1) to b |
| 16:36.19 | Pegger | js_, that is perl? |
| 16:36.20 | hound | chealer9, the dpkg script needs me to know the vid card e.g. vesa/vga/via etc. I don't know what it is - can I find out? |
| 16:36.21 | cjaymes | "Let me drive your pickup truck, and park it where the sun don't shine" |
| 16:36.32 | Pegger | or is rename a perl program? |
| 16:36.35 | js_ | Pegger: the regular expression command is perl |
| 16:36.42 | chealer9 | hound: do you mean the X driver? |
| 16:36.47 | hound | yes |
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| 16:36.54 | js_ | Pegger: /usr/bin/rename is a perl script thats a part of debians perl package |
| 16:37.01 | Andy298 | blondie: so how do i just remove the link? |
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| 16:37.17 | chealer9 | hound: well, if it's already working, why not keep that one? |
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| 16:37.40 | hound | chealer9, the current resoltion is 800x600, very hard to get work done |
| 16:38.03 | hound | chealer9, I've just done a netinst and I've got a lot of configuring to do. |
| 16:38.08 | chealer9 | hound: so you think the current video driver is limited to 800x600? |
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| 16:38.44 | cjaymes | Pegger, for i in `ls`; do mv $i ${i/;1/}; done |
| 16:38.49 | hound | chealer9, no, I've had it at higher resolution when I was running knoppix/dsl |
| 16:39.11 | chealer9 | hound: ...with the same X driver? |
| 16:39.15 | hound | yes |
| 16:39.16 | blondie | Andy298: rm |
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| 16:39.25 | Andy298 | rm symlink_name |
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| 16:39.30 | tainc | right, so I'm having some connection issues maybe y'all can help with: I'm on a powerbook right now, and have a debian box under the desk. They can ping each other on the local network, but only the pb can see the outside world. I checked my router settings and it's kosher. Any thoughts? |
| 16:39.32 | hound | chealer9, no |
| 16:39.36 | blondie | Andy298: uhuh |
| 16:39.45 | hound | chealer9, I was running a different distro. |
| 16:39.47 | Andy298 | blacke: thanks |
| 16:40.04 | chealer9 | hound: then which driver was it? |
| 16:40.11 | cjaymes | Pegger, make that: for i in `ls *;1`; do mv $i ${i/;1/}; done |
| 16:40.13 | hound | how can I check? |
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| 16:40.20 | hound | chealer9, how can I check? |
| 16:40.30 | chealer9 | hound: by checking the X config file? |
| 16:40.50 | Dewi | tainc: what router? |
| 16:41.02 | cjaymes | tainc, deb isn't resolving dns maybe? are you using dhcp? |
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| 16:41.31 | thefish_ | illegal |
| 16:41.44 | cjaymes | then go back to mexico |
| 16:41.58 | cjaymes | if it bothers you that much |
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| 16:42.33 | hound | chealer9, I see, you mean check XF86Config-4 when I was running knoppix? |
| 16:42.38 | Dewi | tainc: can debian ping the router? |
| 16:42.42 | chealer9 | hound: yes |
| 16:42.54 | hound | chealer9, I'll give it a go. |
| 16:42.58 | hound | chealer9, thanks. |
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| 16:44.20 | zleap | hi |
| 16:44.21 | DevilChaos | hi folks |
| 16:44.26 | zleap | hi |
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| 16:44.53 | zleap | hi |
| 16:44.56 | DevilChaos | busy in here the day |
| 16:45.16 | zleap | yep it always seems busy to where I normally hang out |
| 16:45.29 | DevilChaos | where you normally hang ? |
| 16:45.38 | cjaymes | everyone just wants a piece of your action |
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| 16:46.36 | cjaymes | tainc, can you ping router, next router, can you ping apple.com? |
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| 16:47.25 | DevilChaos | zleap:?# |
| 16:47.34 | zleap | hi |
| 16:47.38 | zleap | hows u |
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| 16:48.24 | cjaymes | coffee; brb |
| 16:49.05 | cjaymes | hmm |
| 16:49.25 | cjaymes | I'd give these a 7/10 |
| 16:49.28 | DevilChaos | zleap:where do you normally hang out? |
| 16:49.39 | DevilChaos | what a 7/10? |
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| 16:49.43 | DevilChaos | bicuits? |
| 16:49.52 | DevilChaos | damn typos |
| 16:50.07 | curt | what does that first note in the topic mean? .. about stable kernel DSA |
| 16:50.22 | cjaymes | anyone ever had Bacon Egg & Cheese McBiscuits that weren't made by mcd? I'm trying to cp them |
| 16:50.25 | DevilChaos | adunno |
| 16:50.50 | AM|R | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:50.53 | DevilChaos | mmmmmmmmm bacon egg and cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese |
| 16:50.56 | abrotman | cjaymes: ok .. first of all TOTALLY OT .. and they're not hard |
| 16:50.59 | AM|R | can some one help? |
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| 16:51.06 | kensai | is marillat still working? |
| 16:51.07 | tainc | hmm... if it wasn't made by mcd, could it legally be called a McBiscuit? |
| 16:51.16 | DevilChaos | lol |
| 16:51.30 | DevilChaos | !ask |
| 16:51.30 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 16:51.39 | AM|R | can some one help? perl-suid: Depends: perl (= 5.8.4-8) but 5.8.4-8sarge3 is to be installed |
| 16:51.41 | cjaymes | abrotman, I know, no questions; but it's really hard getting them exactly alike |
| 16:51.42 | abrotman | kensai: should be |
| 16:52.00 | abrotman | cjaymes: what part is hard? the substandard cheese or the crappy biscuit? |
| 16:52.10 | DevilChaos | lol abrotman |
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| 16:52.33 | abrotman | AM|R: apt-get install perl |
| 16:52.42 | abrotman | AM|R: apt-cache policy perl .. paste that in #flood |
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| 16:52.47 | cjaymes | abrotman, the biscuit has this different taste to it; how do they get the eggs,bacon to be that way? |
| 16:52.49 | AM|R | perl is already the newest version. |
| 16:52.59 | cjaymes | abrotman, btw, I've been accused of being OCD :) |
| 16:53.01 | blind | ls |
| 16:53.05 | abrotman | cjaymes: no kidding .. you don't say |
| 16:53.12 | zleap | #toronto-lug |
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| 16:53.24 | abrotman | zleap: try a /join |
| 16:53.25 | zleap | or even in the local dclug room |
| 16:53.27 | AM|R | pasted already abrotman |
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| 16:53.42 | abrotman | AM|R: apt-cache policy perl-suid |
| 16:53.53 | zleap | i do join |
| 16:54.05 | cjaymes | is there any good medicine for ocd? or should I keep applying BE&C Biscuits |
| 16:54.14 | AM|R | ok pasted |
| 16:54.25 | curt | .. /join #toronto-lug .. |
| 16:54.32 | zleap | i do |
| 16:54.41 | zleap | just not many people chatting, when I am there |
| 16:54.52 | tainc | cjaymes: ethanol? |
| 16:54.56 | AM|R | abrotman any clue? |
| 16:54.59 | zleap | but as I am in england, it's probably the time difference |
| 16:55.02 | abrotman | !depends perl-suid sarge |
| 16:55.09 | dpkg | perl-suid: depends on perl (= 5.8.4-8), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libperl5.8 (= 5.8.4-8) |
| 16:55.19 | cjaymes | tainc, ether :) |
| 16:55.23 | abrotman | oh .. that's freaking cute |
| 16:55.29 | abrotman | !info perl sarge |
| 16:55.30 | AM|R | ermm abrotman? |
| 16:55.33 | dpkg | perl: (Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language), section perl, is standard. Version: 5.8.4-8 (sarge), Packaged size: 3162 kB, Installed size: 11052 kB |
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| 16:55.50 | cramm | Hi, does anybody know why when I compile (and install) kernel modules for a custom 2.6.15 kernel built kernel-package using m-a a-i they get installed under /lib/modules/2.6.15 and not under /lib/modules/<my custom kernel name> ? |
| 16:55.59 | abrotman | AM|R: apt-get --reinstall install perl |
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| 16:56.38 | AM|R | pasted on #flood |
| 16:56.50 | cjaymes | *sigh* I guess I need to get going to visit my grandmother |
| 16:57.10 | tainc | cheers |
| 16:57.21 | abrotman | AM|R: where did you get that perl from? |
| 16:57.34 | AM|R | ermm from apt |
| 16:57.44 | kensai | hmmm I get no gpg key found for marillat |
| 16:57.55 | AM|R | i install from debian cd.. but using debian mirror.. japan mirror |
| 16:57.57 | vin` | cramm: even after m-a prepare? |
| 16:58.03 | abrotman | AM|R: paste your sources |
| 16:58.08 | wols_ | !tell kensai about marillat |
| 16:58.12 | abrotman | !tell kensai about marillat key |
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| 16:58.18 | cjaymes | cramm, I think you can force a version somehow; man m-a, I don't remember & gotta go |
| 16:58.29 | AM|R | pasted already |
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| 16:58.54 | abrotman | AM|R: where's your security line? |
| 16:59.01 | kensai | abrotman, how I could forget that dpkg said I should ask mariilat key and I just asket marillat.sid |
| 16:59.07 | kensai | thanks abrotman |
| 16:59.14 | abrotman | ah ok |
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| 16:59.35 | AM|R | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 16:59.44 | sopirlaa | how i can upgrading last version make ? |
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| 16:59.50 | DevilChaos | abrotman : how do i pick out the spec for my pc what ia the command please i have forgot longtime since i needed it |
| 16:59.54 | abrotman | AM|R: are you IRC'ing from the debian box? |
| 16:59.59 | curt | AM|R, apt-get update && apt-get --reinstall install perl |
| 17:00.02 | abrotman | DevilChaos: the spec ? |
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| 17:00.18 | abrotman | AM|R: there was a security update for perl .. |
| 17:00.43 | DevilChaos | yeah like to tell me what flags the cpu has switched on and other relevent info |
| 17:00.58 | AM|R | ok |
| 17:00.58 | abrotman | cat /proc/cpuinf ? |
| 17:01.00 | AM|R | i will try |
| 17:01.00 | abrotman | cat /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 17:01.16 | AM|R | abrotman yeah |
| 17:01.18 | DevilChaos | possibly ill give it a whirl |
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| 17:01.29 | AM|R | sorry through bnc |
| 17:01.32 | abrotman | AM|R: get it working ? |
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| 17:01.40 | AM|R | w8 im still trying |
| 17:01.50 | kensai | gpg: WARNING: nothing exported |
| 17:01.50 | kensai | gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. |
| 17:01.59 | kensai | I can't get it |
| 17:02.27 | abrotman | kensai: did you try what dpkg said ? |
| 17:02.35 | sopirlaa | how i can upgrading last version make ? |
| 17:02.46 | abrotman | huh? |
| 17:02.57 | kensai | yep abrotman |
| 17:03.02 | cjaymes | sopirlaa, apt-get update && apt-get install make |
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| 17:03.18 | abrotman | kensai: both commands ? |
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| 17:03.21 | abrotman | !b-e sopirlaa |
| 17:03.21 | dpkg | sopirlaa: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
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| 17:03.34 | cramm | vin`: yes, AFAIK prepare is an intermediate step of a-i (auto-install), I've tried with a-b (auto-build) and specifying -k /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-<my custom suffix> to m-a to no avail (I thinks that's what cjaymes was talkig about) |
| 17:03.57 | kensai | abrotman, they are separate? |
| 17:04.06 | abrotman | kensai: i see two commands there |
| 17:04.08 | Pegger | cjaymes, now how do I get it to traverse the directories I tried adding -lR to the ls but that did not help |
| 17:04.08 | abrotman | !marillat key |
| 17:04.08 | dpkg | marillat key (only needed for apt-get >= 0.6) try as root 'gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | apt-key add -', or via sudo 'gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -' |
| 17:04.20 | kensai | gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 |
| 17:04.20 | kensai | gpg: WARNING: nothing exported |
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| 17:05.12 | abrotman | kensai: are you root ? |
| 17:05.15 | kensai | the other command is apt-key add |
| 17:05.17 | AM|R | ok thanks abrotman curt |
| 17:05.24 | kensai | abrotman, yep I'm as root |
| 17:05.28 | abrotman | kensai: gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | apt-key add - ... that's one command |
| 17:05.41 | abrotman | ah i see |
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| 17:05.54 | kensai | gpg: WARNING: nothing exported |
| 17:05.54 | kensai | gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. |
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| 17:06.45 | kensai | this is strange |
| 17:06.46 | curt | last night my son ask me 'what does duh mean?' .. I ask him what he thought duh ment .. he said 'duh means DUH!, duh.' |
| 17:07.12 | abrotman | kensai: http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/faq.html |
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| 17:07.24 | abrotman | curt: hehe |
| 17:07.26 | talaok | hi |
| 17:07.27 | talaok | how can i configure my modem to call my isp ? |
| 17:07.49 | abrotman | pppconf |
| 17:08.12 | kensai | this is so bad when nothing works when you are followind the rules |
| 17:08.16 | talaok | and |
| 17:08.38 | sopirlaa | DIE |
| 17:08.39 | talaok | there;s no pppconf :( |
| 17:08.42 | sopirlaa | hell is here |
| 17:09.01 | abrotman | kensai: that page makes it far more clean |
| 17:09.03 | abrotman | clear |
| 17:09.11 | kensai | abrotman, ok I fixed it. dpkg forgets to tell about gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 |
| 17:09.12 | abrotman | !apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 17:09.12 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 17:09.15 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 17:09.41 | LoneWlf | Good morning debian users |
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| 17:10.00 | sonyman | good *afternoon* here |
| 17:10.04 | sonyman | ;) |
| 17:10.04 | LoneWlf | I've got an oddity with IPsec |
| 17:10.08 | alk^ | good evening here |
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| 17:10.13 | DevilChaos | i have twio vfat partitions mounted under folders ion my desktop and they are both locked to root permisions do i need the noroot squash option enabled in fstab |
| 17:10.13 | alk^ | since the clocks changed |
| 17:10.14 | DevilChaos | ? |
| 17:10.22 | kensai | thanks for your patience abrotman |
| 17:10.27 | abrotman | kensai: get it working? |
| 17:10.43 | DevilChaos | i hate it when the bloody things change it annoys the hell ouyt of me |
| 17:10.46 | kensai | abrotman, yep I only needed to gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 |
| 17:10.58 | LoneWlf | I upgraded kernels from 2.4.30 (custom) to 2.6.8 and now ipsec only passes icmp traffic |
| 17:10.59 | abrotman | kensai: ah good |
| 17:11.05 | DarkDeviL | Can someone tell me how I fix the dependency problems with apt? log; http://www.darkdevil.dk/apt.txt ? :o |
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| 17:12.25 | FlopsyPete | How do I get the location bar back in Nautilus that I can type in? its _so_slow to get some places without it |
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| 17:12.35 | yongshunz | #debian-zh |
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| 17:12.44 | LoneWlf | ddskmni: that's neat :) |
| 17:12.51 | LoneWlf | er... dark |
| 17:12.58 | LoneWlf | I need to remember about that auto-complete |
| 17:13.08 | LoneWlf | so, xargs is complaining that it cannot execute a binary file |
| 17:13.12 | LoneWlf | that's pretty wierd |
| 17:13.17 | chealer9 | DarkDeviL: what's the dependency problem? |
| 17:13.24 | abrotman | FlopsyPete: check the gconf settings |
| 17:13.28 | davi | Why xmms does not work with the 2.6.8 Sarge kernel ? |
| 17:13.42 | davi | using the ALSA driver |
| 17:13.48 | abrotman | !alsa-checklist |
| 17:13.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
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| 17:13.56 | abrotman | davi: and check the driver you're using for xmms |
| 17:14.02 | DevilChaos | chown: changing ownership of `/home/devil/Desktop/Music/': Operation not permitted |
| 17:14.04 | davi | thanks abrotman |
| 17:14.26 | DevilChaos | but i am rrot |
| 17:14.30 | DevilChaos | root |
| 17:14.33 | DevilChaos | damn typos |
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| 17:14.36 | sonyman | chown -R |
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| 17:15.09 | DevilChaos | Operation not permitted |
| 17:15.16 | sonyman | *shrug* |
| 17:15.29 | DevilChaos | about a million time flew up my screen the now |
| 17:15.35 | sonyman | lol |
| 17:15.43 | DevilChaos | lol |
| 17:16.01 | LoneWlf | DevilChaos : chmod -R 755 /home/devil/Desktop; chown blah blah blah blah |
| 17:16.47 | DarkDeviL | chealer9: not sure about anything in these dependency problems... but here's a cut of the output; http://www.darkdevil.dk/apt.txt |
| 17:17.11 | kingsley | DarkDeviL: What dothe commands "ls -l xargs" and "dpkg -S /usr/bin/xargs" report? |
| 17:17.20 | LoneWlf | DarkDeviL : this doesn't look like a dependency problem from where I sit |
| 17:17.21 | chealer9 | DarkDeviL: yeah, but how did that problem appear? |
| 17:17.22 | kensai | somebody know about the messgae when booting that says udevd-event %e deprecated will be removed so don't use it? |
| 17:17.23 | FlopsyPete | abrotman: thanks. looking at gconf I expect its there but I can't see it yet |
| 17:17.43 | DarkDeviL | You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: |
| 17:17.43 | DarkDeviL | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 17:17.43 | DarkDeviL | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.46 | DarkDeviL | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.46 | DevilChaos | blackbox:/home/devil# chmod -R 755 /home/devil/Desktop; chown devil /home/devil/Desktop/Music/ chown: changing ownership of `/home/devil/Desktop/Music/': Operation not permitted |
| 17:17.47 | LoneWlf | DarkDeviL : it looks like something is wrong on the kernel side to where you cannot execute some binary file type.... |
| 17:17.49 | DarkDeviL | E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). |
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| 17:18.02 | DevilChaos | oops |
| 17:18.14 | DarkDeviL | It come here while I upgraded to testing/unstable, in order to get newer packages :o |
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| 17:19.03 | FlopsyPete | periodically when trying to open an OpenOffice Base file it says 'General Error.'. at some point later the same file will open. anyone know what this is? |
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| 17:19.40 | kingsley | DarkDeviL: A so called "pre-removal" script in the package named python-newt is crashing while trying to use the "xargs" command. |
| 17:19.44 | behemoth | trying to get my samba shares to be writable - on the hosting machine the directory has an ownership of bob/bob. when i mount it on the connecting pc, it shows that the directory has a ownership of john/john. is this how it should be? |
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| 17:21.19 | chealer9 | DarkDeviL: testing or unstable? |
| 17:21.30 | abrotman | what is line 6 of that script? |
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| 17:23.03 | abrotman | tarzeau: did you upload briquolo ? |
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| 17:23.25 | GutterPunk | Hello |
| 17:24.11 | GutterPunk | I can't get my sound in gnome to work... Well, sounds in gaim for example, work, and so does playing a song with mpg123... But trying to play a gnome event sound does nothing, and rhythmbox doesn't play either |
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| 17:24.34 | evilt0ne | hello to all |
| 17:24.35 | GutterPunk | This has been bugging me for a while now... would be great if someone could help me out |
| 17:25.38 | evilt0ne | !ping |
| 17:25.38 | dpkg | pong |
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| 17:26.55 | row | anyone happen to know howto typecast a value with net-snmp when it fetches it with a script, its a interger but its giving its saying its a string. |
| 17:27.57 | curt | GutterPunk, probably esound or alsaplayer not installed |
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| 17:29.52 | DevilChaos | even with the chmod command i still get chown: changing ownership of `/home/devil/Desktop/Music/': Operation not permitted |
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| 17:30.11 | DevilChaos | ill print the line i have written in my fstab |
| 17:30.44 | curt | did you try chown -R owner:group /dir |
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| 17:30.52 | GutterPunk | curt, well alsaplayer-alsa is installed, and so is alsaplayer-esd... and esound is already installed |
| 17:30.58 | thefish_ | !ping |
| 17:30.58 | dpkg | pong |
| 17:31.07 | DevilChaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.14 | LoneWlf | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.21 | abrotman | row: you mean in C ? |
| 17:31.43 | DevilChaos | curt: ill try it |
| 17:31.44 | curt | GutterPunk, check for the esound support programs -clients -common and maybe libs too |
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| 17:32.04 | GutterPunk | alright |
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| 17:33.20 | kingsley | GutterPunk: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/c851e64f488716e5/6d2701269bda1361?lnk=st&q=rhythmbox+works+%7C+fixed&rnum=3&hl=en#6d2701269bda1361 |
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| 17:33.34 | DevilChaos | curt: lol Operation not permitted another 50 billion times |
| 17:33.55 | GutterPunk | If I try to manually run esd it just says: "/dev/dsp: device not found"... |
| 17:33.57 | thewiz | what are tar.xdelta files for |
| 17:33.58 | DevilChaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.59 | thewiz | ? |
| 17:34.11 | fernandokts | Hi, do anyone know how to setup grub to load the menu.lst from a remote server (tftp), but in this file the options are to boot from the clients local partitions? |
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| 17:34.25 | DevilChaos | is there options i should add to this? |
| 17:34.31 | row | abrotman: I thought about doing it in C, but at the moment I have a perl script that grabs SNR data from my pci card's stats program and prints them out in and out per line and it displays fine in snmpwalk but as strings, which might break some stuff. |
| 17:34.43 | abrotman | row: did you try asking #perl ? |
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| 17:35.36 | row | abrotman: so snmp will understand the output, cause I used printf to output them as intergers :/ |
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| 17:35.52 | row | net-snmp is just so dead tho |
| 17:35.55 | row | :-S |
| 17:36.01 | PasDNick | anyone else having erl to segfault with erlang v. 10.b.9-2 ? (sid, just updated) |
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| 17:36.20 | shingouz | DevilChaos: try auto,rw,user <-- note two commas. remount the hd and try again |
| 17:36.20 | Sebbecking | Hi there! |
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| 17:38.41 | curt | fernandokts, you want to setup your local grub to boot from a remote box? |
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| 17:40.08 | Sebbecking | Hey, I'm a kind of new at bash-scripting, but I need a script to run... Can somebody give me a hint how to erase a file named "numbersbefore", add a new file with the same name and insert the content of the variable VARI in it? |
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| 17:40.17 | fernandokts | curt: not exactly, I want to make a central boot manager. I want all the machines of a room to use the same menu.lst to load Linux or Windows (of client's own local disk) |
| 17:40.52 | abrotman | Sebbecking: #bash |
| 17:40.58 | Sebbecking | okay ;) |
| 17:41.04 | GutterPunk | When I run gstreamer-properties the test works... It all looks like sound should be enabled but it's not. Only in certain applications. And esound won't work because there is no /dev/dsp. Alsa seems to be the only thing that does work, and it does mixing by itself |
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| 17:41.18 | GutterPunk | But I need to get it to work system wide, in all applications... |
| 17:41.36 | DevilChaos | abrotman: is there extra options i am missing in the fstab entry that are prohibiting me from changing permissions /dev/hdb1 /home/devil/Desktop/Music auto rw,user 0 0 |
| 17:41.38 | curt | fernandokts, but at boot time none of the box know about each other |
| 17:42.23 | shingouz | DevilChaos: in your fstab, change "auto rw,user" to "auto,rw,user", remount and try again |
| 17:42.40 | DevilChaos | eh |
| 17:42.49 | abrotman | DevilChaos: what is the file type? |
| 17:42.50 | lucky_tux | hi! i'am trying GNUpg. Everything works well, except the plugin for kmail. When i want open a encrypted message, kmail complained about a wrong passphrase. thats a problem with the modul openpgp. I have no idea what to do now ??? The information from Google didn't helped me. |
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| 17:42.55 | DevilChaos | aw |
| 17:43.03 | abrotman | shingouz: auto is the file system type |
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| 17:43.04 | SonnyBurnett | hi, can somebody help me to reduce the size of a logical volume? |
| 17:43.13 | DevilChaos | mp3s and its fat32 i think |
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| 17:43.29 | shingouz | ah. sorry. i thiknk i better bg myself again for the time being :$ |
| 17:43.39 | DevilChaos | im going to take all the mp3's out and reformatt it ext3 |
| 17:43.46 | abrotman | shingouz: more coffee! |
| 17:44.03 | shingouz | abrotman: umm... tea or coke (the sloshy kind) |
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| 17:44.04 | abrotman | DevilChaos: fat32 doesn't know owner:group |
| 17:44.08 | DevilChaos | is it because its a winblows media type? |
| 17:44.10 | abrotman | shingouz: whichever |
| 17:44.14 | DevilChaos | ah |
| 17:44.16 | DevilChaos | c |
| 17:44.21 | DevilChaos | lol |
| 17:44.35 | DevilChaos | thank you |
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| 17:44.38 | DevilChaos | :) |
| 17:44.40 | lucky_tux | has anyone experiences with kmail and encrypted emails? |
| 17:44.52 | DevilChaos | why? |
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| 17:45.16 | [1]Surferdude | Anyone know if its possible to use a .htaccess for authentication in cgi-bin? |
| 17:45.41 | abrotman | probably . might be a better suited question for #apache |
| 17:45.47 | [1]Surferdude | k |
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| 17:46.37 | lucky_tux | DebiaChaos: i have got a problem with kmail. when i want to open a encrypted mail, kmail complains about a wrong passphrase. its a problem with the openpgp modul or maye gpg-agent ??? |
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| 17:47.54 | DevilChaos | use evolution and try that |
| 17:47.55 | SonnyBurnett | hi, can somebody help me to reduce the size of a logical volume? I dont unsdestand totally the resize2fs command |
| 17:48.13 | lucky_tux | with evolution it works. its a problem with kmail |
| 17:49.15 | DevilChaos | sorry cant help havent used kmail why do you need it when evo works? |
| 17:49.19 | lucky_tux | the error message: Das Krypto-Modul "openpgp" konnte die Datei nicht entschlüsseln. Grund: Falsche Passphrase |
| 17:49.55 | DevilChaos | viva music channel kicks ass |
| 17:50.15 | lucky_tux | but thats not a wrong passphrase (i'am not silly :) i thing theres a problem with gpg-agent |
| 17:50.17 | abrotman | english? |
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| 17:51.40 | lucky_tux | i dont speak english. iam from germany. well... i try to translate the message: "the encryption-modul "opengpg" couldn't decrypt the file. reasun: wrong passphrase. |
| 17:52.34 | tombs | hi all |
| 17:52.36 | nkuttler | lucky_tux: give it the correct passphrase |
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| 17:53.24 | lucky_tux | where can i give in the correct passphrase thers no dialog. for this theres the programm gpg-agent |
| 17:53.45 | nkuttler | lucky_tux: what command do you use to decrypt the file? |
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| 17:54.52 | lucky_tux | well. when i decrypt the file on the command line everything works, but with kmails there are these problems |
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| 17:56.07 | jeffrin | how to send mail using gnus |
| 17:56.16 | PasDNick | anyone else having erl to segfault with erlang v. 10.b.9-2 ? (sid, just updated) |
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| 17:56.40 | jeffrin | hello all |
| 17:56.44 | abrotman | !bts |
| 17:56.44 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 17:56.48 | jeffrin | please help me |
| 17:56.50 | jeffrin | how to send mail using gnus |
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| 17:57.51 | PasDNick | abrotman: can't find any bug report for this one .. not sure i should open a new one, as my problem may be due to this morning's hosting power failure, and bas things on hard drives :( |
| 17:57.51 | lucky_tux | is there a channel für GNUpg or kmail? |
| 17:58.19 | abrotman | PasDNick: that might be a better place to start |
| 17:58.28 | abrotman | lucky_tux: #debian-kde or #kde might know more? |
| 17:58.44 | lucky_tux | ok thanks. Bye |
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| 17:58.59 | abrotman | or check the bts? |
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| 18:01.13 | cocozz | Hi, I just installed libxft2 and ttf-bitstream-vera |
| 18:01.29 | cocozz | how can I use this fonts now on urxvt/xterm .. ? |
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| 18:06.07 | clem_ | hi, from etch, how can I change to sid ? in /etc/apt/sources.list shall I simply replace etch keywords with sid ? |
| 18:06.26 | azeem | clem_: more or less, yes |
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| 18:06.34 | Andy298 | im after an effective backup proceedure. a weekly system backup that does friday 1,2,3,4 and overwrites. also a data backup that backs up each day and does a monthly backup that overwrites every year (jan, feb, mar etc) |
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| 18:06.41 | clem_ | azeem: what else is involved ? |
| 18:06.44 | azeem | clem_: of course, if you want to run sid, you should know that already |
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| 18:07.03 | azeem | clem_: you'll have to fix brokeness on your own when on sid, e.g. |
| 18:07.17 | chealer9 | clem_: do not change to sid if you don't even know how to do it |
| 18:07.19 | chino | how do i i add a startup script ? |
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| 18:07.28 | mzilikazi | i noticed that d-i is able to label my partitions as /opt etc, how to do this? can't seem to figure it out w fdisk of cfdisk |
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| 18:07.48 | clem_ | It doesn't matter if I break it. |
| 18:07.53 | clem_ | I want to try. |
| 18:08.06 | clem_ | is there security updates for sid ? |
| 18:08.14 | chealer9 | clem_: there's nothing to try in sid |
| 18:08.21 | clem_ | shall I add sid lines to already existing etch lines in sources.list ? |
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| 18:08.32 | Rick77__ | Hello, I'm buying a new pc wireless card for my laptop. Can some one recommend a good card that will work with Linux ? |
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| 18:08.40 | tziku | hello, i'm trying to run mysqladmin server but: "mysqladmin: Error starting slave: The server is not configured as slave, fix in config file or with CHANGE MASTER TO" . I'm using debian and all packages was installed automaticly. HELP ? |
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| 18:08.49 | tziku | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.01 | clem_ | Rick77__ : have a look at the ndiswrapper wiki.. there are load of info on that there. |
| 18:09.34 | ThetaWave | Hello all |
| 18:10.08 | tziku | i'm trying jut to install MySQL Admin - server. I want to manage my database from my machine using windows & MySQL Administrator. |
| 18:10.28 | wols_ | clem_: a wiki of a project that uses windows drivers to make them work under linux is not what I'd call a good place to check for linux compatibility... |
| 18:10.58 | clem_ | wols_ : it's a start. If you have better for him be my guest and help him. |
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| 18:11.44 | charzero | If I do `cp` on an NFS mount, is all the data going to go across the network and back? |
| 18:11.47 | ThetaWave | I have a question: I've been using aptitude, but is there a graphical front-end I can use instead that will continue to track which packages were installed to satisfy a dependency? |
| 18:12.00 | DarkDeviL | chealer9: some stable stuff in sources.list, and some unstable, and 1x 'sid': http://www.darkdevil.dk/sources.list :) |
| 18:12.07 | clem_ | charzero: it should yes. maybe with a sync. |
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| 18:12.53 | clem_ | ThetaWare : in KDE adept, in Gnome Synaptic |
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| 18:13.07 | wols_ | clem_: e.g. http://prism54.org/ |
| 18:13.08 | chealer9 | DarkDeviL: hum, what do you mean? |
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| 18:13.43 | ThetaWave | will synaptic and adept pick up aptitudes knowledge of which packages were requested and which satisfied dependencies? |
| 18:13.47 | pem3v78 | how can I list installed packages along with version number ? |
| 18:13.53 | centrx | pem3v78, dpkg -l |
| 18:14.12 | chealer9 | ThetaWave: no, try debfoster |
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| 18:14.20 | clem_ | DarkDeviL : thanks for the sources.list. |
| 18:14.24 | DarkDeviL | chealer9: I run unstable, and some stable non-us.debian.org, and one sid thingie.... http://www.darkdevil.dk/sources.list if you want to see my sources.list - and it NEVER gave any problems on my home desktop linux |
| 18:14.33 | DarkDeviL | clem_: np :p |
| 18:14.40 | paolob | Hi guys! I'm using debian testing, and when i perform lsof /dev/dsp I get: |
| 18:14.51 | abrotman | mixing your sources is bad |
| 18:14.55 | paolob | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:14.59 | chealer9 | DarkDeviL: haha. non-us doesn't even exist in stable |
| 18:15.13 | paolob | Output information may be incomplete |
| 18:15.22 | paolob | What does it mean? is it a udev problem? |
| 18:15.34 | Rick77__ | clem_: thanks |
| 18:15.37 | abrotman | DarkDeviL: are you even doing any pinning ? |
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| 18:15.50 | DarkDeviL | chealer9: it never gave any problems before :o |
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| 18:16.19 | Rick77__ | wols_: is that a site listing pc wirelss network cards |
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| 18:16.25 | DarkDeviL | abrotman: what do you mean? :o |
| 18:16.38 | abrotman | right .. thought so .. one more person using unstable that doesn't know what they're doing |
| 18:16.48 | stb_ | hi. i've managed to get my custom kernel booting. how do i make sure there are no problems? is it safe to delete the stock kernel? it has an initrd image (2.6.15) but i didnt make one |
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| 18:17.14 | tam9 | whats the best way to convert between chm and pdf? |
| 18:17.18 | abrotman | stb_: you should keep it |
| 18:17.23 | abrotman | tam9: one is html . one is not ? |
| 18:17.25 | DarkDeviL | abrotman: ...thanks for the words |
| 18:17.30 | ThetaWave | chealer9: is depfoster something you have to run separately? |
| 18:17.32 | abrotman | !sid faq |
| 18:17.32 | dpkg | well, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 18:17.44 | orco | i'm trying to /msg dpkg... |
| 18:17.47 | orco | not working |
| 18:17.52 | chealer9 | ThetaWave: I don't know how it works |
| 18:17.53 | stb_ | abrotman: what can i use other than dmesg to check kernel status? |
| 18:17.58 | tam | abrotman: sorry, that was a daft question...meant to say is there a way to convert a chm to pdf? |
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| 18:18.03 | abrotman | DarkDeviL: if you're not doing any pinning .. you're probably going to end up with a total unstable system |
| 18:18.14 | infernix | !unstable |
| 18:18.15 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid. see sid faq. |
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| 18:18.27 | athayde | !download |
| 18:18.28 | dpkg | hmm... download is at ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/disks-i386 and you need these in order to install: linux, loadlin.exe, install.bat, resc1440.bin, drv1440.bin, rawrite.exe, root.bin and base2_1.tgz |
| 18:18.31 | abrotman | tam: not sure .. can you make chm into something readable ? |
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| 18:18.39 | DarkDeviL | what do you mean by pinning? programming stuff or? |
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| 18:18.53 | stb_ | also which drivers should i leave as modules? my kernel is 1.8Mb |
| 18:18.55 | wols_ | abrotman: there is lichm. in debian even :) |
| 18:19.00 | tam | abrotman: well, i can do a archmage on the chm and turn them into pdf files |
| 18:19.03 | abrotman | wols_: i've never used it |
| 18:19.05 | infernix | DarkDeviL: read what dpkg says about stable, then google 'apt pinning' if you really want to stick with unstable |
| 18:19.12 | wols_ | *libchm |
| 18:19.15 | abrotman | wols_: it is ? |
| 18:19.19 | clem_ | !sid |
| 18:19.19 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 18:19.20 | ThetaWave | clem_: will adept or synaptic track which packages only satisfy a dependency like aptitude does? |
| 18:19.26 | wols_ | !info libchm |
| 18:19.35 | abrotman | i see |
| 18:19.39 | abrotman | lichm isn't there :) |
| 18:19.48 | wols_ | !info libchm1 |
| 18:19.52 | dpkg | libchm1: (library for dealing with Microsoft CHM format files), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.37-2 (sid), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 64 kB |
| 18:19.53 | wols_ | :P |
| 18:20.01 | DarkDeviL | infernix: I just want the dependency problem fixed - thats all... |
| 18:20.21 | abrotman | this is why people shouldn't run unstable |
| 18:20.30 | infernix | DarkDeviL: thats *exactly* the point of running unstable; if you dont know abuot how it breaks and how to fix it, dont run it |
| 18:20.37 | clem_ | ThetaWare : it's good to have both.. I use synaptic and aptitude, depending on the need. |
| 18:20.41 | abrotman | DarkDeviL: isn't your script failing? |
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| 18:21.42 | abrotman | DarkDeviL: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 18:22.13 | ThetaWave | clem_: if synaptic installs something because of a dependency, does aptitude figure that out? |
| 18:22.25 | DarkDeviL | infernix: Easier to say: "simply, if you're a noob, run unstable, no one will ever help you out on irc" |
| 18:22.33 | infernix | darkdevil no. |
| 18:22.39 | clem_ | ThetaWave: yes |
| 18:22.47 | DarkDeviL | abrotman: ii libc6 2.3.6-4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
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| 18:22.57 | clem_ | ThetaWave: they're both APT frontends.. even though aptitude is CLI |
| 18:22.58 | athayde | Is this link the correct one http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/ ? |
| 18:23.06 | DarkDeviL | -, +and |
| 18:23.07 | abrotman | athayde: for what? |
| 18:23.17 | infernix | take cars. only car mechanics should drive cars that they are tweaking/tuning/changing engine/tires all the time. |
| 18:23.30 | ThetaWave | clem_: I thought aptitude kept track of more than apt does |
| 18:23.32 | athayde | abrotman for download the debian OS |
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| 18:23.41 | abrotman | infernix: or at least know how to use an air wrench :) |
| 18:23.43 | infernix | same applies to unstable. dont run it if you dont know how to fix it, same as normal people shouldnt drive cars that are bound to break down |
| 18:23.45 | abrotman | !d-i athayde |
| 18:23.45 | dpkg | athayde, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 18:23.47 | clem_ | ThetaWave: actually, you're right.. when it comes to cleaning and all... |
| 18:23.52 | pipeline | infernix: Take cars: Only idiots drive cars known not to be very reliable :P |
| 18:23.55 | clem_ | ThetaWave: I'm not sure in that matter. |
| 18:23.55 | dannythm | hello, anybody knows if ATI has cut support for linux users? |
| 18:24.04 | abrotman | ask #ati ? |
| 18:24.05 | DarkDeviL | infernix: and if I dont know anything about fixing cars, should I then just let it stay at the ground without go to the technicians with it if anything was wrong...? |
| 18:24.23 | abrotman | no .. you should hire a mechanic |
| 18:24.34 | infernix | DarkDeviL: if you buy a nearly broken 2nd hand car, dont expect anyone to just help you |
| 18:24.44 | dannythm | 'cause I'm trying to install the driver with the flavio's howto and in the step it has to download the driver from ati, it says that the connection is recjected |
| 18:25.02 | ThetaWave | clem_: so it sounds like the best thing is to keep using aptitude? |
| 18:25.05 | DarkDeviL | abrotman: actually what I would do.... |
| 18:25.14 | clem_ | god.. there's such a "don't use Sid" fuss out here... it's very frustrating hearing people telling you what to do with your own system..tsss.. |
| 18:25.17 | dannythm | (i hope this is not flood) Connecting to www2.ati.com|212.170.238.81|:80... connected. |
| 18:25.20 | dannythm | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found |
| 18:25.23 | dannythm | 20:26:19 ERROR 404: Not Found. |
| 18:25.39 | DarkDeviL | infernix: there is another way .... only buying new, and not used cars..... But still, self an new car can be defective... |
| 18:25.39 | infernix | there's not a 'dont use sid' fuss. there's a 'if you run sid, help yourself'. expecially if you don't know abuot apt pinning |
| 18:25.40 | athayde | abrotman help me with... It's so many URLs to choice. I can't find the right one. |
| 18:25.40 | athayde | hehehe |
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| 18:25.49 | abrotman | athayde: what kind of computer is it ? |
| 18:25.53 | abrotman | dannythm: and? |
| 18:26.05 | abrotman | dannythm: 404 is not rejected |
| 18:26.16 | dannythm | abrotman: if I can't use this way... how can I install the drivers? |
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| 18:26.28 | abrotman | dannythm: what instructions? |
| 18:26.31 | athayde | abrotman what you mean ? What kind of system ? Well, I have windows into |
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| 18:26.35 | dannythm | abrotman: well.. it's the not found, so it may be worst |
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| 18:26.41 | clem_ | ThetaWave: I'm not sure. aptitude is great. Now would synaptic make things invisible to aptitude, I don't think it would. I think apt-get doesn't see it all.. and maybe synaptic does'nt either but I don't think it would create any problems with your aptitude.. |
| 18:26.42 | abrotman | athayde: so get the i386 netinst |
| 18:26.44 | DarkDeviL | infernix: Should I repeat? I don't had any problems with apt for ages.... - Ages ago, I had a problem, there was being fixed with a line containing '--fix-broken' or similar, but I don't remember that line, and therefore ... it seems to be hard to test it! |
| 18:26.51 | dannythm | abrotman: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 18:26.54 | pipeline | DarkDeviL: apt-get -f install |
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| 18:27.03 | tziku | hello, i'm trying to run mysqladmin server but: "mysqladmin: Error starting slave: The server is not configured as slave, fix in config file or with CHANGE MASTER TO" . I'm using debian and all packages was installed automaticly. HELP ? |
| 18:27.03 | abrotman | the prerm script is broken |
| 18:27.06 | athayde | abrotman But I'm gonna remove him |
| 18:27.07 | tziku | i'm trying jut to install MySQL Admin - server. I want to manage my database from my machine using windows & MySQL Administrator. |
| 18:27.15 | DarkDeviL | pipeline: already tried that 'over and over'... still same |
| 18:27.16 | athayde | windows is a little suck |
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| 18:27.24 | athayde | abrotman you know what I mean ? |
| 18:27.36 | DarkDeviL | Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y |
| 18:27.36 | DarkDeviL | (Reading database ... 90521 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 18:27.36 | DarkDeviL | Preparing to replace python-newt 0.51.6-20 (using .../python-newt_0.52.2-2_i386.deb) ... |
| 18:27.37 | abrotman | athayde: i told you .. get the i386 netinst |
| 18:27.39 | DarkDeviL | /var/lib/dpkg/info/python-newt.prerm: line 6: /usr/bin/xargs: cannot execute binary file |
| 18:27.42 | DarkDeviL | dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 126 |
| 18:27.45 | DarkDeviL | dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... |
| 18:27.47 | DarkDeviL | /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/prerm: line 6: /usr/bin/xargs: cannot execute binary file |
| 18:27.49 | abrotman | DarkDeviL: STOP |
| 18:27.50 | DarkDeviL | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-newt_0.52.2-2_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 18:27.53 | DarkDeviL | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.55 | DarkDeviL | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 18:27.58 | infernix | god... |
| 18:27.58 | DarkDeviL | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.58 | pipeline | christ |
| 18:28.01 | DarkDeviL | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 18:28.02 | abrotman | !ops DarkDeviL flooding |
| 18:28.03 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: DarkDeviL flooding |
| 18:28.03 | athayde | abrotman okay |
| 18:28.05 | pipeline | what happened to the flood-kicking thing ? |
| 18:28.11 | abrotman | pipeline: rate limit |
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| 18:28.21 | abrotman | dannythm: i'm reading |
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| 18:28.40 | abrotman | incapable of using unstable and IRC :) |
| 18:28.42 | clem_ | well.. I'm a bit pissed off.. I'm gonna go help myself so. Lemme RTFM and sorry for asking huh ? bye bye. |
| 18:28.50 | barretj | i need to trim the last few seconds off of an mp3 file, what program should i use for this? |
| 18:29.02 | dannythm | abrotman: ok ^^ |
| 18:29.17 | abrotman | dannythm: what URL are you trying to get ? which section on that page? |
| 18:29.28 | infernix | some people need to readjust their view on getting free support |
| 18:29.53 | timo | barretj, you _can_ use audacity. it's quite nice |
| 18:30.13 | Andy298 | im after an effective backup proceedure. a weekly system backup that does friday 1,2,3,4 and overwrites. also a data backup that backs up each day and does a monthly backup that overwrites every year (jan, feb, mar etc) |
| 18:30.32 | barretj | timo: ok, i will try that, thanks |
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| 18:30.50 | infernix | Andy298: single machine: make a tar script. multimachine: try amanda, maybe bacula |
| 18:30.53 | dannythm | abrotman: 3a. Source |
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| 18:31.03 | DarkDeviL | ...some people got addicted to act likely they are smart... |
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| 18:31.13 | athayde | abrotman you sure about it ? Just 100mb ? |
| 18:31.19 | athayde | the all system |
| 18:31.24 | athayde | that's strange |
| 18:31.25 | abrotman | athayde: no .. it's the netinst |
| 18:31.42 | DarkDeviL | anyway ..... gl |
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| 18:31.56 | abrotman | dannythm: i can't find an ATI url there |
| 18:32.01 | abrotman | !tell athayde about ig |
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| 18:33.22 | kensai | from what I can see gnome 2.14 will make it to sid soon |
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| 18:33.42 | kensai | gnome 2.12 came to sid a few days before gnome 2.14 |
| 18:33.42 | barretj | timo: in audacity, if i export as mp3, will the file be re-encoded as mp3? i do not want to re-encode it since i will loose sound quality |
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| 18:33.44 | arkm2 | Hi! |
| 18:33.49 | dannythm | abrotman: dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot -tc -uc -D doing that command it makes a call |
| 18:33.59 | arkm2 | need help!!! |
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| 18:34.20 | abrotman | dannythm: can you tell what URL it's trying to open ? |
| 18:34.43 | abrotman | arkm2: why!! |
| 18:34.50 | m1ke_l | anyone install debian on sparc? |
| 18:34.50 | dannythm | abrotman: I think it's this one http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/fglrx_6_9_0-8.19.10-1.i386.rpm |
| 18:34.53 | arkm2 | i have a web server whit apache 2 and other whit postgresql 7x |
| 18:35.01 | m1ke_l | after install prom says file not executable |
| 18:35.07 | m1ke_l | and wont boot |
| 18:35.10 | abrotman | dannythm: that url works for me :) |
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| 18:35.15 | abrotman | whit? |
| 18:35.15 | arkm2 | my TIME_WAIT socket kill me work... |
| 18:35.29 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 18:35.29 | dpkg | i heard sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 18:35.30 | barretj | m1ke_l: you sure you used a sparc kernel? |
| 18:35.31 | dannythm | abrotman: and for me, but while doing the progmar, it dosent |
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| 18:35.42 | dannythm | I paste in #flood the full sequence ¿ok? |
| 18:35.45 | abrotman | dannythm: that makes me think that's not the problem |
| 18:35.48 | abrotman | ok |
| 18:36.02 | m1ke_l | yes |
| 18:36.05 | r_marvin | m1ke_l: i just installed one |
| 18:36.10 | infernix | dannyp: if you're building fglrx packages, the latest ATI full installer can build debian packages for all debian distros and also Xorg 8.9.0 |
| 18:36.17 | infernix | >dannythm |
| 18:36.26 | infernix | and thats 6.9.0 ofcourse |
| 18:36.34 | arkm2 | the command "netstat -an|awk '(/^tcp/&&/80/){print$6}'|sort|uniq -c" show so much connection in state TIME_WAIT when the hits was very hig!!! |
| 18:36.36 | athayde | abrotman I was reading some documments, and I have seen it that I can download one CD and to use the apt-get for can download the others programs and softwares |
| 18:36.42 | dino4k | hm, Sun's proprietary |
| 18:36.43 | athayde | abrotman I can do that, don't I ? |
| 18:36.44 | r_marvin | i used 3.1r1a-binary-1 |
| 18:36.51 | dino4k | opa |
| 18:36.52 | abrotman | athayde: and that's what i pointed you at |
| 18:37.08 | dino4k | hm, "Sun's proprietary hardware" - there is "open sparc" |
| 18:37.17 | m1ke_l | i used 31r1a-sparc-netinst |
| 18:37.25 | athayde | abrotman hehehe... well, thanks anyway |
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| 18:38.02 | abrotman | athayde: ? |
| 18:38.03 | arkm2 | lag... |
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| 18:38.36 | athayde | abrotman thank you for everything |
| 18:38.48 | abrotman | you're welcome |
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| 18:39.39 | paolob | Hi guys! Anyone could get wengophone working? thank you! |
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| 18:39.49 | Andy298 | infernix: it's a single machine - any idea on tutorials for a tar script? |
| 18:39.50 | abrotman | dannythm: ah . i think i see |
| 18:40.01 | dannythm | abrotman: what's the prob? |
| 18:40.09 | abrotman | dannythm: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300 |
| 18:40.40 | infernix | Andy298: google on 'backup tar script' would be a start. I am sure there's single-machine backup packages though; maybe try apt-cache search backup, or ask others in here for single-machine solutions |
| 18:41.01 | Baughn | For some reason screen translates backspace (^?) to the escape sequence [[3~, which is interpreted as del. How do I fix it? |
| 18:41.02 | abrotman | dannythm: there's no RPM for 6.9 for some reason .. ask #ati where it went |
| 18:41.32 | dannythm | abrotman: oh... so I can't install the driver following this howto >< |
| 18:41.51 | dannythm | abrotman: and I see in ati's page that there's a newer driver... |
| 18:41.52 | infernix | dannythm: if you sh ati-installer-something.run --help, itll show options. its something like --buildpkg Debian/[distro], e.g. Debian/sid if you run xorg 6.9.0 (even if you're on sarge/etch) |
| 18:42.01 | abrotman | dannythm: i'm not sure if it was taken away or not |
| 18:42.11 | infernix | dannythm: just the installer (the 28MB .run file) is all you need. |
| 18:42.11 | abrotman | dannythm: which ATI card do you have? |
| 18:42.21 | abrotman | infernix: he's trying to make the ati debs |
| 18:42.35 | infernix | yea well the ati's installer has support built i now |
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| 18:42.51 | abrotman | support for debian packages? |
| 18:43.00 | infernix | so --help, and then --buildpkg Debian/sid if you run 6.9.0. yep |
| 18:43.12 | infernix | works fine on my etch here, and amd64 sid |
| 18:43.15 | dannythm | abrotman: radeon 9200 pro, but soon I'll get a 9800 pro |
| 18:43.26 | pipeline | dannythm: You don't need ATI drivers for a 9200. |
| 18:43.29 | abrotman | dannythm: you don't need the ATI binary drivers for 9200 |
| 18:43.33 | pipeline | dannythm: The free drivers are actually better than the ATI ones :P |
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| 18:43.41 | m1ke_l | i have a 9800 pro and ati drivers worked. |
| 18:43.42 | pipeline | dannythm: You just modprobe radeon and away you go... |
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| 18:43.51 | abrotman | dannythm: AND .. i think 9800 may also be supported in xorg now |
| 18:43.51 | dannythm | abrotman: for 3d too? no need for drivers? |
| 18:43.54 | m1ke_l | just had to edit xorg.conf manualy to put fglrx in it |
| 18:43.58 | infernix | but if you run sarge with backport Xorg, you need to build for sid with the installer; backported xorg isnt supported with --buildpkg Debian/stable |
| 18:44.13 | barretj | found what i needed! mp3splt Splits MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files without reencoding |
| 18:44.17 | abrotman | oh .. 2d only |
| 18:44.23 | abrotman | dannythm: not 3d .. just 2d |
| 18:44.29 | dannythm | pipeline: thanks |
| 18:44.43 | dannythm | abrotman: I want to play some empulated games here xD |
| 18:44.51 | abrotman | dannythm: emulated in what? |
| 18:44.58 | dannythm | infernix: I tryed to use the ati installer and it don't worked |
| 18:45.00 | pipeline | dannythm: And in the future, you won't need fglrx (ATI proprietary) for Radeon 9800 either... that's pretty far off, though. |
| 18:45.05 | pipeline | barretj: Heh, MP3 files don't have any format to them. |
| 18:45.10 | pipeline | barretj: You can split them with a text editor :P |
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| 18:45.15 | dannythm | abrotman: well, they were suckcesfuly installed with wine |
| 18:45.21 | pipeline | barretj: You can split them with dd, even... |
| 18:45.34 | abrotman | dannythm: i'm not sure that 3d drivers in linux has anything to do with wine .. |
| 18:45.34 | Baughn | pipeline: Sure they do - ID3 tags |
| 18:45.47 | infernix | dannyp: if the installer didnt work you did something wrong. it should work. |
| 18:45.51 | infernix | abrotman: yes actually. |
| 18:46.01 | abrotman | see .. shows you how much i use wine :) |
| 18:46.13 | infernix | if you play games in WINE it will use X's opengl |
| 18:46.20 | infernix | so ATI's will be a *lot* faster |
| 18:46.24 | arkm2 | see you friends!!! |
| 18:46.25 | infernix | still crappy but faster./ |
| 18:46.39 | dannythm | abrotman: I know, but I need to have the drivers installed for 3d support.. isn't it? |
| 18:46.41 | pipeline | Baughn: ID3 tags are either at the beginning or end of the file. You can literally edit with a text editor. |
| 18:46.49 | pipeline | Baughn: There's no container format for mp3, nothing to screw up. |
| 18:46.57 | pipeline | infernix: Not with a 9200. |
| 18:46.58 | abrotman | i would settle for wine working at all! |
| 18:47.03 | infernix | dannyp: which version of debian, and which version of Xorg |
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| 18:47.07 | pipeline | abrotman: Wine doesn't work for you? I play all kinds of games with wine :p |
| 18:47.19 | abrotman | pipeline: i get err:wave:DSDB_MapBuffer Please run winecfg, open "Audio" page and set |
| 18:47.19 | abrotman | "Hardware Acceleration" to "Emulation". |
| 18:47.35 | pipeline | abrotman: You probably have intel sound. |
| 18:47.36 | wols_ | infernix: ati has horrible opengl drivers. I doubt you will be faster than windowss |
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| 18:47.50 | Baughn | For some reason screen translates backspace (^?) to the escape sequence [[3~, which is interpreted as del. How do I fix it? |
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| 18:47.53 | infernix | wols_: i'm not, but it runs. 25-40% slower. |
| 18:47.58 | dannythm | infernix: i'm on etch |
| 18:48.13 | kraypius | i have never really used apt and this is my first time on debian. what should or shouldnt I update from this list? http://pastebin.com/623645 |
| 18:48.18 | infernix | dannythm: then get the latest ati installer, sh ati*run --buildpkg Debian/sid |
| 18:48.30 | abrotman | pipeline: it used to work darn it! |
| 18:48.40 | dannythm | infernix: ok, I'll do it now |
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| 18:49.01 | wols_ | kraypius: thy're all updated. you updated them |
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| 18:49.15 | barretj | are there any command line programs that will tell me the length in minutes of an mp3 file? |
| 18:49.22 | wols_ | you can't chose what to update |
| 18:49.32 | wols_ | !tell kraypius about grounding |
| 18:49.35 | Baughn | barretj: The only reliable way is to decode it and see how much there is |
| 18:49.37 | moke1809 | kraypius: you're ok, this is all you need for a clean stable |
| 18:49.54 | Baughn | barretj: So mpg123 works as well as anything |
| 18:49.55 | abrotman | pipeline: i only used wine for TA :) |
| 18:49.58 | kraypius | hmm |
| 18:50.12 | kraypius | grounding? |
| 18:50.19 | dannythm | infernix: the command line is just like the one you wroted? |
| 18:50.20 | abrotman | see what dpkg told you |
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| 18:50.25 | pipeline | abrotman: Tried TA spring under wine yet? |
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| 18:50.32 | infernix | dannythm: yup. i gotta run, read up at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Problems_with_fglrx for more info |
| 18:50.39 | pipeline | abrotman: By the way, the default TA spring "mod" is terrible. Get "Absolute Annihilation" before even trying it. |
| 18:50.41 | kraypius | i just want to make sure that i dont update dependancies that are going to break other software |
| 18:50.49 | moke1809 | kraypius: you have main mirrors and security updates, that is all you need |
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| 18:51.00 | wols_ | kraypius: not with stable. and you haven#t installed any new software yet |
| 18:51.02 | dannythm | infernix: thanks! |
| 18:51.06 | wols_ | kraypius: read the apt manual |
| 18:51.58 | moke1809 | kraypius: if for the first time on debian, take a look at debian-reference |
| 18:52.31 | kraypius | k |
| 18:53.06 | ym | dpkg doesn't know, does ubuntu suck or not. could anyone explain? |
| 18:53.22 | abrotman | pipeline: that would imply my wine was working :) |
| 18:53.25 | orco | hey i'm trying to /msg dpkg and i'm not getting a response |
| 18:53.30 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 18:53.30 | dpkg | salut, abrotman |
| 18:53.53 | Coweater | ym: try it and get your own opinion |
| 18:53.58 | ym | !gentoo |
| 18:53.58 | dpkg | hmm... gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
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| 18:54.15 | tainc | ym: depends on what you need in a distro. Ubuntu is decent for a desktop distro, but I would (and do) use straight up debian for a server. |
| 18:54.40 | moke1809 | ym:i'm starting not ti like ubuntu |
| 18:54.42 | ym | tainc: what if i want a webdev machine and dont wanna have a pain in the ass? |
| 18:54.58 | stb_ | do i just have to edit the numerical order of Sxx*.sh in rcS.d to change boot order? |
| 18:55.09 | chealer9 | barretj: mp3info seems to be one |
| 18:55.09 | hubbi | Is there a way to get the xterm default font into gnome-terminal? |
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| 18:55.13 | moke1809 | ym:the userbase of debian is becoming smaller |
| 18:55.23 | rvsjoen | stb_:yes |
| 18:55.24 | ym | moke1809: because of what? |
| 18:55.26 | tziku | how can i create a slave ? (in mysql) - 1) "mysql> show slave status;" 2) "Empty set (0.00 sec)" . Help me pleaaase !!... |
| 18:55.29 | abrotman | moke1809: no it's not |
| 18:55.32 | abrotman | not even close |
| 18:55.44 | hubbi | Or can someone tell me a good console font which is available for use in gnome-terminal and other apps |
| 18:55.48 | Althaser | ?? dpkg skype |
| 18:55.54 | stb_ | rvsjoen: how do i know what depends on what if(when) i break it |
| 18:55.56 | moke1809 | abortman: ubuntu is doing some great things |
| 18:55.59 | abrotman | oh crap .. i forgot .. it's sunday |
| 18:56.00 | abrotman | moke1809: i disagree |
| 18:56.02 | nkuttler | Althaser: /msg dpkg foobar |
| 18:56.07 | stb_ | rvsjoen: as in where do i read the errors |
| 18:56.08 | Althaser | nkuttler thanks |
| 18:56.09 | abrotman | i think ubuntu is for lazy people |
| 18:56.17 | abrotman | and some of them none too bright |
| 18:56.19 | moke1809 | i just don't understand the mepis switch |
| 18:56.37 | kensai | why doesn't oo.org shows in gnome menu in sid and it is installed is there some command I need to run the first time? |
| 18:56.38 | abrotman | hubbi: you'll have to pick your own font |
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| 18:56.51 | abrotman | kensai: iirc .. there's an oo-gnome package or something |
| 18:56.52 | zOrK | hello |
| 18:57.04 | kensai | abrotman, I have it |
| 18:57.06 | moke1809 | abortman: on the other hand, when my brother wanted to switch, i did't recommend debian |
| 18:57.10 | rvsjoen | as far as I know you dont know till you try :) errors will be in the log. There might be another way but not that I know about |
| 18:57.15 | abrotman | moke1809: i rest my case |
| 18:57.23 | thingfish | hehe |
| 18:57.49 | moke1809 | abortman: i know, i know...debian is not for lazy people or for newbees |
| 18:57.55 | abrotman | i disagree |
| 18:58.03 | hubbi | abrotman: My own font? Dunno what you mean. I dont want to look 8 hours to Monospace at gnome-terminal,but i prefer it - and like it more than xterm. But the xterm font kicks ass,so whats my way? :P |
| 18:58.08 | abrotman | RH failed to find my mouse in like 1999 .. i installed debian . that was that |
| 18:58.10 | tziku | how can i create a slave ? (in mysql) - 1) "mysql> show slave status;" 2) "Empty set (0.00 sec)" . Help me pleaaase !!... |
| 18:58.14 | abrotman | 1998 maybe .. |
| 18:58.18 | abrotman | tziku: #mysql ? |
| 18:58.42 | abrotman | hubbi: not everyone has the fonts you have .. |
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| 18:58.52 | tziku | nobody who can help me abrotman |
| 18:59.01 | abrotman | but it's about mysql .. not about debian |
| 18:59.11 | abrotman | mysql.com/doc ? |
| 18:59.12 | wols_ | moke1809: what mepis switch? |
| 18:59.46 | moke1809 | wols_: they are building mepis now od ubuntu base, not debian unstable snapshot |
| 18:59.52 | tziku | is about debian...nice and autoconfig packages...i'm trying to install MySql-Admin and i have some problems and ALL pkg have been installed automaticly. |
| 18:59.52 | hubbi | abrotman: Just tell me how to get a console font working on gnome-terminal - or import the xterm default one if possible. *beg* |
| 19:00.04 | wols_ | mepis is a desktop distro, ubuntu is a desktop distro |
| 19:00.05 | abrotman | hubbi: it should be the system font |
| 19:00.07 | wols_ | good fit I guess |
| 19:00.12 | abrotman | both crap! |
| 19:00.33 | moke1809 | wols_: debian is a desktop distro as well |
| 19:00.44 | ym | linux is a desktop os by design |
| 19:00.45 | abrotman | but debian's focus is not the desktop |
| 19:00.51 | wols_ | nah. different uses for different folks. what _is_ crap tho is this ubuntu "server" BS |
| 19:00.55 | wols_ | that's really crap |
| 19:00.57 | abrotman | debian's is the swiss army knife of linux |
| 19:00.59 | abrotman | :) |
| 19:01.10 | abrotman | and mine should be better typing skills |
| 19:01.16 | wols_ | ym: by design? windows is a desktop by design, but linux? |
| 19:01.28 | moke1809 | i would also like to type with more fingers:) |
| 19:01.33 | ym | wols_: seek in google groups for "linus linux desktop" |
| 19:01.38 | abrotman | hehe |
| 19:01.39 | eggzeck | wols_, ... |
| 19:01.44 | abrotman | !sing sunday |
| 19:01.44 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
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| 19:02.00 | ym | !apple |
| 19:02.00 | dpkg | hmm... apple is a fruit., or a different kind of company, a different kind of computer... http://www.apple.com, or a fruity computer, or the unrootable OS |
| 19:02.06 | nkuttler | linux is a kernel. nothing to do with a desktop. not even a os. |
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| 19:03.59 | kensai | I love debian unstable |
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| 19:04.37 | kamelot | yo amo tu hermana |
| 19:04.38 | kamelot | lol |
| 19:04.40 | kensai | so funny that sid tends to be outdated in some of it's packages |
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| 19:04.50 | kensai | kamelot, I don't think so |
| 19:05.14 | eggzeck | "I don't think so" isn't a responce to what he said :P |
| 19:05.23 | kamelot | oh, you have a *spanish* fullname |
| 19:05.25 | kamelot | :P |
| 19:05.43 | kensai | and you forgot the "a" after amo and before tu |
| 19:06.09 | kamelot | uh |
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| 19:06.17 | kensai | yeah my main language is spanish |
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| 19:06.44 | kamelot | nice. |
| 19:07.04 | ym | franco merde? |
| 19:07.14 | abrotman | come on |
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| 19:07.20 | GoAuLd | so you dont care about him loving your hermana? |
| 19:07.24 | GoAuLd | xD |
| 19:07.37 | moke1809 | guys...mislio sam da je ovo engleski kanal:) |
| 19:07.44 | kensai | GoAuLd, I said he coud not love her lol |
| 19:07.48 | windblown | Any Idea why debian 3.1 install (linux26) would hang forever at "Loading module 'floppy' for "Linux Floppy'... ? |
| 19:07.54 | bernd | hi, what should i do that "locate" worked after a fresh install ? |
| 19:07.59 | abrotman | updatedb |
| 19:08.00 | Baughn | For some reason screen translates backspace (^?) to the escape sequence [[3~, which is interpreted as del. How do I fix it? |
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| 19:08.10 | moke1809 | abrotman: youre fast..:) |
| 19:08.13 | abrotman | windblown: no . but try expert26 |
| 19:08.23 | kamelot | I will have "almuerzo" |
| 19:08.25 | kamelot | xD |
| 19:08.31 | kensai | lol |
| 19:08.32 | abrotman | i'd still settle for a working wine! |
| 19:08.32 | bernd | abrotman, thx |
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| 19:08.39 | windblown | I'll give it a shot and see what it says |
| 19:08.49 | kamelot | como es almuerzo en ingles? |
| 19:08.51 | kamelot | :P |
| 19:08.58 | GoAuLd | launch |
| 19:08.59 | kensai | I did not tried expert this time since the lasta time I tried expert the installer froze |
| 19:09.05 | josep | lunch, even |
| 19:09.20 | kensai | it was pre-beta2 installer |
| 19:09.26 | abrotman | !es |
| 19:09.27 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:09.38 | kensai | so one lesson daily build images of installer are bad |
| 19:09.50 | abrotman | not always |
| 19:10.12 | kensai | correct, I have always used daily images |
| 19:10.26 | kensai | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:10.36 | abrotman | NAP! |
| 19:11.01 | kensai | Hispanohablantes get the hell out of here. Larguense Por Favor. LOL |
| 19:11.28 | kensai | dpkg, I love you |
| 19:11.28 | dpkg | I hope you mean in the platonic sense :/ |
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| 19:11.34 | kamelot | !it |
| 19:11.34 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 19:11.56 | ym | !ru |
| 19:11.56 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 19:12.09 | kensai | leave poor dpkg alone already |
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| 19:14.11 | tziku | how can i create a slave ? (in mysql) - 1) "mysql> show slave status;" 2) "Empty set (0.00 sec)" . Help me pleaaase !!... |
| 19:14.22 | tziku | ERROR 1200: The server is not configured as slave, fix in config file or with CHANGE MASTER TO |
| 19:14.32 | ym | do you want an anal slave or what |
| 19:14.36 | tainc | tziku: cast charm lv. 3 |
| 19:14.39 | wols_ | tziku: do you have 2 servers? |
| 19:14.51 | tziku | no...1 server... |
| 19:14.54 | SonnyBurnett | hi, what should I use to expand a logical volume? lvextend or lvresize? |
| 19:14.54 | kensai | I heard slavery was abolished |
| 19:15.02 | tziku | i want to use it for MySql Administrator |
| 19:15.05 | wols_ | then why would you have master/slave? |
| 19:15.20 | tziku | i want to manage my database usig MySQL Administrator. |
| 19:15.23 | Baughn | Administrators should not be slaves - it's a job that requires motivation |
| 19:15.47 | tziku | and i can't start : mysqladmin: Error starting slave: The server is not configured as slave, fix in config file or with CHANGE MASTER TO |
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| 19:16.35 | tziku | yn no thanks go and find otherone. |
| 19:17.44 | wols_ | tziku: then do what the helpful error message says. configure your mysql server to be a slave |
| 19:18.05 | tziku | wols_ but i don't know how...this is the big problem. |
| 19:18.26 | abrotman | !mysql |
| 19:18.26 | dpkg | A fast and simple relational database implementing a limited subset of SQL. Can do replication; no views, stored procedures, triggers; transaction support not consistent. Packaged as 'mysql-server' and 'mysql-client'. Also see http://mysql.com and #mysql. http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/, or mysql is great for your grandmother's blog but if you want a real and free db you should look at postgresql, or <mysql gotchas> |
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| 19:19.41 | m1ll3` | i get an error when updating. "trying to overwite `/usr/include/X11', which is also in package libxft-dev" any suggestions how to fix it? |
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| 19:19.54 | abrotman | !overwrite |
| 19:19.54 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-overwrite is because the package you are trying to install has files which exist in another package and does not conflict with the other package. This is *ALWAYS* a bug. Make sure a bug is filed (ask me about <bts>). If there isn't one, use reportbug to report it. Then install using the following: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <packagename> |
| 19:20.10 | m1ll3` | is this save? |
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| 19:21.32 | digits | how come that I can't make php-cgi connect to mysql? have i forgotte a package or something (i'm not using debian myself, installing for a friend) |
| 19:21.47 | kraypius | is there any program like htop that is better than htop? |
| 19:21.49 | timo | m1ll3`, the bug's already resolved in the latest libxft-dev |
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| 19:21.53 | abrotman | digits: is the extension uncommented ? |
| 19:21.58 | Red_Cloud | OK I am now trying to configure my printer. Is CUPS appropriate for a home desktop printer? |
| 19:22.02 | abrotman | !info htop sarge |
| 19:22.04 | dpkg | htop: (interactive processes viewer), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.5.1-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 40 kB, Installed size: 160 kB |
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| 19:22.11 | abrotman | !info printconf sarge |
| 19:22.15 | phaedral | how do i see the RSA fingerprint for my machine? |
| 19:22.16 | dpkg | printconf: (automatically configures USB and parallel printers with CUPS), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.7.4.14 (sarge), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 40 kB |
| 19:22.20 | m1ll3` | timo: uhm. which repository? |
| 19:22.28 | phaedral | apt-cache search fingerptint didn't give me any love |
| 19:22.32 | chealer9 | Red_Cloud: why not |
| 19:22.40 | phaedral | s/pti/pri/ |
| 19:23.24 | digits | abrotman: hah, that was it... time to hit the sack it seems... ;P |
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| 19:23.34 | abrotman | digits: perhaps |
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| 19:23.46 | dhuv | hello all |
| 19:23.48 | timo | m1ll3`, libxft-dev 2.1.8.2-4 fixed it. and Sid is already in -5 |
| 19:23.49 | cocozz | Hi, anyone there uses ttf-bitstream-vera fonts ? |
| 19:24.04 | Cowman | hey... stupid question but I can't figure this out. How do I disable the screen saver? I'm running gnome/gdm and I can't find the setting to turn it off |
| 19:24.13 | Red_Cloud | chealer9 I sometimes have trouble understanding the language in the man pages etc as to whether a package is appropriate for a server or a desktop. I did not want to get started down the wrong path early while trying to configure my printer. |
| 19:24.47 | Cowman | I tried apt-get remve xscreensaver but now the screen just goes black with some error message instead of the scren saver coming up |
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| 19:25.34 | dhuv | I know this is not debian specific but I was hoping I can get some help here. I want to reuse an old Pentium II system for a file server. The problem is that the old system will have an old pci slot. The raid cards that are compatible only work with sata and not sata II drives. Can I get sata II drives anyway, are the backward compatible? |
| 19:25.37 | SonnyBurnett | hi, what should I use to expand a logical volume? lvextend or lvresize? |
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| 19:25.57 | m1ll3` | timo: i have sid... hmm |
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| 19:26.49 | damog | any suggestion on a light-weight livecd debian-based? I'm looking for something not including X apps/server |
| 19:26.59 | timo | m1ll3`, what version does "apt-cache policy libxft-dev" show? |
| 19:26.59 | Zugschlus | damog: http://grml.org/ |
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| 19:27.13 | Zugschlus | damog: you are looking for grml-small |
| 19:27.25 | cocozz | Damn Small Linux |
| 19:27.30 | timo | m1ll3`, the Candidate: field |
| 19:27.32 | Cowman | come on... a hint. this can't be that hard, I just need the screen saver turned off |
| 19:28.08 | damog | Zugschlus: Thanks. |
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| 19:28.37 | abrotman | featherlinux is debian based i think |
| 19:29.02 | abrotman | damog: http://featherlinux.berlios.de/ |
| 19:29.04 | m1ll3` | timo: 2.1.8.2-3 (500) on ftp://debian.pffa.de and -5 (500) on ftp.de.debian.org |
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| 19:29.43 | m1ll3` | candidate - already 2.1.8.2-5.1 installed |
| 19:29.58 | timo | m1ll3`, hmm ok, de.debian.org is up-to-date. see if issuing "apt-get -f install" resolves the issue |
| 19:30.05 | Zugschlus | !apt aide |
| 19:30.12 | Zugschlus | hmmm |
| 19:30.15 | st0ner | hi, i have a usb mouse connected and it's present in lsusb, /proc/bus/usb/devices and i have /dev/input/mouse0 and /dev/input/mice but in x the mouse doesnt work! is there something i can do to fix it? |
| 19:30.20 | m1ll3` | just did the overwrite command a few minutes ago |
| 19:30.44 | m1ll3` | maybe i should kick the pffa.de mirror out of my sources.lst |
| 19:31.15 | timo | m1ll3`, ah okay |
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| 19:31.22 | keck0f | hi |
| 19:31.59 | ym | !hi |
| 19:31.59 | dpkg | hello, ym |
| 19:32.05 | st0ner | some1 help me with that usb mouse, pls!! |
| 19:32.05 | ym | !fuck you |
| 19:32.05 | dpkg | no, fuck you |
| 19:32.09 | ym | !shut up |
| 19:32.09 | dpkg | Kiss my shiny metal ass! |
| 19:32.11 | abrotman | ym: STOP WITH THE BOT |
| 19:32.18 | m1ll3` | lol |
| 19:32.26 | SkareCrow | gah |
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| 19:32.41 | timo | m1ll3`, maybe, it seems to lag behind. on the other hand, apt will by default install the newest version available to it anyway |
| 19:32.49 | Zugschlus | !dpkg tell st0ner about somebody |
| 19:33.11 | abrotman | !usbmouse |
| 19:33.11 | dpkg | rumour has it, usbmouse is [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe {usb}hid and mousedev by hand); [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X. On a modern system only [5] is necessary. |
| 19:33.15 | SkareCrow | my HTTPD config just doesnt work the same as it did on windows |
| 19:33.35 | m1ll3` | timo: i think my sources.lst is a bit overloaded |
| 19:33.38 | abrotman | SkareCrow: that's a bit vague |
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| 19:34.18 | st0ner | thx, so protocol "Auto" is wrong?! |
| 19:34.34 | abrotman | !2.6 mouse |
| 19:34.34 | dpkg | i heard 2.6 mouse is modprobe psmouse; modprobe mousedev; echo -e "psmouse\nmousedev" >> /etc/modules and choose mouse device /dev/input/mice and mouse type ExplorerPS/2. See http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2199 or the #Debian FAQ (http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/OtherHardware (#1.3)) |
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| 19:35.02 | keck0f | i installed cloop via "module-assistant auto-install cloop", but when doing "modprobe cloop file=foo" i get the errormessage "FATAL: Error inserting cloop (/lib/modules/2.6.15.4/extra/cloop.ko): Invalid module format". Why there is cloop.ko instead of cloop.o? |
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| 19:35.36 | mo1991 | anyone help me getting mp4 (m4a) playing with xmms? I have the libmp4 package but doesn't seem to help xmms |
| 19:35.43 | magyar | hi |
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| 19:35.58 | daeos | abrotman: good to see you here again today, you must like helping those of us with debian problems =) |
| 19:36.07 | behemoth | if i connect to a samba share, why can't i write/update the files on that share? |
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| 19:36.17 | narma | hello, why there isn't qt-designer into debian testing ? I have to use qmake but I can't find package which provide this tool... |
| 19:36.30 | abrotman | daeos: i think that's been said once or twice .. i'm also watching red sox baseball :) |
| 19:36.31 | m1ll3` | because you don't have the rights? xD |
| 19:36.37 | nkuttler | behemoth: because samba is not configured properly? or you don't mount it correctly? |
| 19:36.40 | abrotman | behemoth: read-only ? |
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| 19:36.41 | magyar | what does linux-image-2.6.16-x-vserver stands for? |
| 19:37.06 | behemoth | abrotman: i have writable = yes in my smb.conf |
| 19:37.22 | behemoth | nkuttler: i can access the mounted share |
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| 19:37.35 | narma | ho sorry, it is qt3-designer... |
| 19:37.58 | keck0f | behemoth: see /etc/samba/smb.conf if the share is writable and check the share-mode in common section. i smb.conf is ok then check chmod/chown of the share. |
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| 19:39.13 | behemoth | keck0f: http://pastebin.com/623717 - i have setup a user account smbuser/users on this pc and setup smbuser/users on the 2nd pc |
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| 19:40.28 | behemoth | i have also added smbuser to samba |
| 19:40.30 | daeos | abrotman: makes sense, at least your not just in here and not doing anything else..... im at work =D |
| 19:40.52 | abrotman | daeos: uhm .. i'm not sure which is worse :) |
| 19:41.24 | keck0f | behemoth: what says "ls -d -l /home/smbuser"? |
| 19:41.43 | moke1809 | a question to all: where are you login in from? Land? Me germany |
| 19:41.58 | m1ke_l | moke1809: usa |
| 19:42.00 | keck0f | de, too |
| 19:42.05 | m1ll3` | germany |
| 19:42.05 | behemoth | keck0f: on the hosting or connection pc? |
| 19:42.11 | claygucci | where can i find a good faq on what to make what partitions when instaslling debian, as far as /, /home,/tmp , etc? |
| 19:42.13 | keck0f | behemoth: on the server |
| 19:42.26 | moke1809 | claygucci: debian-reference |
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| 19:42.39 | tainc | Logged in? I was absorbed into the matrix long ago. |
| 19:42.48 | behemoth | drwx------ 3 smbuser users 4096 Mar 26 21:05 /home/smbuser |
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| 19:43.23 | kraypius | omg im so mad. this box is supposed to have 2048 MB ram and its only showing 884 |
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| 19:43.35 | m1ll3` | high mem support? |
| 19:43.42 | _rms__ | Hi, I need some advise on extracting data from the second drive LVM partition. |
| 19:44.07 | kraypius | why? |
| 19:44.08 | abrotman | kraypius: uname -a |
| 19:44.22 | m1ll3` | why? how... xD |
| 19:44.29 | kraypius | Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 19:44.31 | m1ll3` | enable high mem support in your kernel |
| 19:44.46 | abrotman | kraypius: what CPU do you have? |
| 19:44.53 | m1ke_l | rms: what? |
| 19:44.54 | kraypius | p4 |
| 19:44.58 | kraypius | 3.0 |
| 19:45.06 | wols_ | keck0f: get a new kernel |
| 19:45.11 | abrotman | kraypius: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 19:45.18 | abrotman | kraypius: see if that takes care of it |
| 19:45.31 | kraypius | will i need to reload the box? |
| 19:45.36 | kraypius | reboot |
| 19:45.37 | keck0f | behemoth: do you mount the share on a windows (net use j: \\mylinuxbox\smbuser-behemoth /USER:smbuser) or linux (mount -t smbfs -ousername=smbuser //mylinuxbox/smbuser-behemoth)? |
| 19:45.50 | wols_ | kraypius: of course. rebooting with the new kernel |
| 19:45.52 | moke1809 | kraypius: yep |
| 19:45.53 | abrotman | kraypius: yes .. it's a new kenrel |
| 19:46.03 | _rms__ | m1ke_l: I have a file on the second hard drive. But I am not able to mount it coz it says Linux LVM on the partion when I use FDISK |
| 19:46.08 | kraypius | that scares me. i dont have physical access to it |
| 19:46.12 | claygucci | moke1809 thank you |
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| 19:46.17 | kraypius | but it should come back i guess |
| 19:46.20 | kraypius | lol |
| 19:46.28 | wols_ | kraypius: who instaqlled that box for you then? |
| 19:46.28 | moke1809 | claygucci : youre welcome |
| 19:46.34 | st0ner | i have /dev/input/mice (and /dev/input/mouse0) and did set Device to /dev/input/mice and protocol to ExplorerPS/2 but still no success, has anyone another hint? |
| 19:46.35 | kraypius | my host |
| 19:46.43 | wols_ | then tell them they did a shitty job |
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| 19:46.51 | m1ke_l | rms: try a vgscan on it...it might build a lvm table for you |
| 19:47.01 | m1ke_l | rms: then you can simply mount the lvm "partitiosn" |
| 19:47.09 | kraypius | should I be able to reboot this thing and it comes back online? |
| 19:47.12 | SkareCrow | Last night, before i went to bed, i added something to my path. But this morning it isnt there? why??? |
| 19:47.21 | m1ke_l | rms: did it come from another linux install? |
| 19:47.24 | abrotman | kraypius: that's the plan .. what happens if it dies? |
| 19:47.30 | behemoth | keck0f: linux - mount -t smfs -o username=smbuser,password=fdsfds //serverip/smbuser /data/smbuser/ |
| 19:47.34 | kraypius | nothing really |
| 19:47.37 | abrotman | ok |
| 19:47.50 | behemoth | keck0f: err, should be smbfs |
| 19:47.53 | _rms__ | m1ke_l: Yeah...second drive had fedora on it. |
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| 19:48.05 | m1ke_l | vgscan may build lvm table |
| 19:48.12 | claygucci | moke1809 I'm searching the document for the word partition and kind find one instance of it |
| 19:48.17 | m1ke_l | the mount /dev/lvmname/lvname /somewhere. |
| 19:48.21 | keck0f | behemoth: then take a look on the global section and the holy_grale section in http://pastebin.com/623742 . |
| 19:48.26 | claygucci | am i searching for the wrong word |
| 19:48.41 | m1ke_l | *the then |
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| 19:49.17 | kraypius | update is done.. rebooting |
| 19:49.56 | behemoth | keck0f: hmm, global looks very similiar apart from WINS |
| 19:50.25 | abrotman | kraypius: did you pray?! |
| 19:50.40 | kraypius | OMG I DIDNT PRAY |
| 19:50.45 | abrotman | !bless kraypius |
| 19:50.45 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless your child kraypius, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
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| 19:50.53 | kraypius | lol |
| 19:51.01 | kraypius | box is back up! |
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| 19:51.04 | m1ll3` | whats the difference between integrating the browser the debian or the gnome way? |
| 19:51.19 | kingspawn | anyone know how to control what a laptop does when you close the lid? |
| 19:51.19 | abrotman | huh? |
| 19:51.22 | abrotman | kraypius: now .. uname -a |
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| 19:51.35 | kraypius | yeah! |
| 19:51.38 | abrotman | kingspawn: there is a way to use the switch .. acpi i think |
| 19:51.38 | kraypius | RAM IS THERE! |
| 19:51.43 | keck0f | behemoth: unmount smb-share, add "security = user" to global section and do a restart samba ("/etc/init.d/samba restart") and see if share is writable. |
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| 19:51.57 | _TuXeD_ | hi |
| 19:52.00 | _rms__ | m1ke_l: when I run vgs...how will it add. I don't have any LVMs on this machine |
| 19:52.08 | kraypius | thanks so much. is there anything else i should do after upgrading the kernel? |
| 19:52.20 | kraypius | or because i upgraded the kernel rather |
| 19:52.22 | abrotman | kraypius: just make sure it works and all your hardware is working .. |
| 19:52.37 | kraypius | k, thanks |
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| 19:53.26 | bllll | hello |
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| 19:53.33 | bllll | anyone knows what "si" means in top ? |
| 19:53.50 | bllll | Cpu(s): 1.3% us, 2.9% sy, 0.0% ni, 56.0% id, 0.0% wa, 1.6% hi, 38.1% si |
| 19:54.09 | bllll | here's an example... it's using 38 % of cpu. |
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| 19:54.34 | behemoth | keck0f: still the same :( |
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| 19:55.03 | keck0f | please help me on a kernelmodule problem: i installed cloop via "module-assistant auto-install cloop", but when |
| 19:55.03 | keck0f | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.03 | keck0f | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.03 | keck0f | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:55.06 | _rms__ | Is there an easy way to retrieve my file from LVM partition on the second drive. |
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| 19:55.16 | abrotman | bllll: man top ? |
| 19:55.29 | daeos | 'man top' =D |
| 19:55.39 | xfan | i have about 10kbis/seconds traffic (internet) when i dont do anything on my debian, its that normal ? |
| 19:56.54 | Phleagor | no |
| 19:57.02 | wols_ | keck0f: there is no .o extension for kernel modules anymore. hasn't been for quite some time |
| 19:57.03 | bllll | can't find it in man pages. |
| 19:57.05 | Phleagor | normal ist 0-0.1kb/s |
| 19:57.11 | abrotman | xfan: try jnettop and see what it is |
| 19:57.14 | wols_ | xfan: run iptraf |
| 19:57.20 | bllll | i looked there already. |
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| 19:57.29 | xfan | iptraf say 4kb/seg |
| 19:57.36 | xfan | nmap say : 22/tcp open ssh |
| 19:57.37 | xfan | 25/tcp open smtp |
| 19:57.37 | xfan | 111/tcp open rpcbind |
| 19:57.37 | xfan | 631/tcp open ipp |
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| 19:57.53 | keck0f | wols_: could you give me a hint why the module isn't loadable? |
| 19:57.57 | wols_ | xtr: iptraf also says to which ports the traffic goes |
| 19:58.08 | sbk | This is really a flash plugin question [unable to get sound to play, though other sound apps [xmms, mplayer etc] work] |
| 19:58.10 | wols_ | keck0f: no I can't cause I don't know |
| 19:58.12 | _rms__ | m1ke_l: vgs shows the volume name VolGroup00: |
| 19:58.13 | m1ll3` | damn.. just did xorg update... now i get xfce4-panel segfault :/ |
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| 19:58.28 | xfan | i want 0 kb/seg |
| 19:58.29 | bllll | abrotman, so .. ? |
| 19:58.34 | wols_ | sbk: zszakky fkasg beeds exclusive access to /dev/dsp |
| 19:58.39 | keck0f | wols_: thank you . |
| 19:58.46 | daeos | bllll: im looking for you also |
| 19:58.56 | ateoh211 | has anyone here found a howto for converting a remote redhat server to debian that has actually worked out for them? if so, could you share the url? |
| 19:59.04 | wols_ | grrr damn home row |
| 19:59.07 | sbk | wols_: hm... that didn't seem to be the issue (i stopped all other apps) |
| 19:59.11 | wols_ | flash plugin needs |
| 19:59.14 | bllll | daeos, hm ? |
| 19:59.20 | ateoh211 | OR does anyone know of a good deal for a dedicated debian server? |
| 19:59.37 | daeos | bllll: im looking up the si also |
| 19:59.46 | sbk | wols_: I'll check with lsof to make sure |
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| 19:59.55 | ateoh211 | by good deal, $50.00/month |
| 20:00.17 | bllll | daeos, ok.. maybe abrotman can help us :) |
| 20:00.22 | wols_ | you can get dedi servers here for 20-30EUR |
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| 20:00.29 | bllll | or someone else... since i can't find it in man pages |
| 20:00.31 | bllll | or google. |
| 20:00.33 | wols_ | no xeons or sth like that tho of course |
| 20:00.34 | abrotman | bllll: huh? |
| 20:00.42 | abrotman | oh .. i am |
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| 20:02.46 | Stevie | wow |
| 20:02.48 | Stevie | iptraf == cool |
| 20:02.50 | sbk | wols_: nope, not seeing any use of /dev/dsp. rats |
| 20:03.10 | wols_ | if you use /dev/dsp, does it work? |
| 20:03.13 | abrotman | Stevie: try jnettop |
| 20:03.14 | wols_ | with say, xmms? |
| 20:03.41 | Red_Cloud | I need information to which printers are referred thoughout the man pages and instructional manual: what in the world is a PostScript printer? as opposed to a regular printer? |
| 20:04.06 | wols_ | one that understands postscript (a page description language) |
| 20:04.12 | jetscreamer | hey why do i get /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied when i try to run my (stupid?) script i'm trying to make |
| 20:04.14 | wols_ | and if you have to ask, you probably don't have it in your printer |
| 20:04.31 | wols_ | the !# line is probably wrong in your script |
| 20:04.42 | \amethyst | Red_Cloud: it is a printer that knows how to interpret the Postscript page description language. Mostly mid-to-high-end lasers |
| 20:04.46 | jetscreamer | !# not #! ? |
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| 20:05.00 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 20:05.01 | wols_ | jetscreamer: you're right. |
| 20:05.03 | \amethyst | jetscreamer: it should be #!. What's the whole line? |
| 20:05.14 | Stevie | what's the diff between jnettop and ntop? |
| 20:05.32 | jetscreamer | #!/bin/bash |
| 20:05.37 | jetscreamer | must be the rest of it, (i suck) |
| 20:05.38 | abrotman | bllll: can't find a thing about it |
| 20:05.45 | abrotman | bllll: let's ask jetscreamer! |
| 20:05.49 | jetscreamer | that's the one thing i cut/pasted |
| 20:05.55 | Red_Cloud | wols and \amethyst are inkjets PostScript printers? Lexmark? |
| 20:06.03 | daeos | i don't see 'si' on my top |
| 20:06.18 | \amethyst | Red_Cloud: Usually not |
| 20:06.23 | wols_ | Red_Cloud: no |
| 20:06.29 | keck0f | mc |
| 20:06.52 | abrotman | daeos: are you on sarge? |
| 20:07.22 | wols_ | I do have si |
| 20:07.22 | Red_Cloud | wols and \amethyst does not Linux systems print in color? |
| 20:07.32 | wols_ | could it be "system idle" or somesuch? |
| 20:07.37 | bllll | no |
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| 20:07.40 | wols_ | Red_Cloud: ask linuxprinters.org |
| 20:07.41 | bllll | i think |
| 20:07.46 | bllll | "id" is idle |
| 20:07.47 | bllll | or im wrong ? |
| 20:07.49 | jetscreamer | The "si" column refers to the amount of memory swapped in from disk, while "so" is memory swapped |
| 20:07.55 | wols_ | linuxprinting.org |
| 20:08.03 | Red_Cloud | wols, I am now on linuxprinters.org and this is what caused my question |
| 20:08.05 | wols_ | bllll: you're right, but something it must be |
| 20:08.07 | jetscreamer | your google-fu is pathetic :p |
| 20:08.09 | tainc | linuxprinting.org |
| 20:08.12 | tainc | whoops |
| 20:08.12 | tainc | yeah |
| 20:08.22 | bllll | something it must be... sure l;) but what is it |
| 20:08.38 | \amethyst | Red_Cloud: In general Linux can print in color |
| 20:08.52 | \amethyst | Red_Cloud: is your printer listed there? |
| 20:09.04 | wols_ | jetscreamer: swapped in from where? and how? mmap? |
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| 20:09.30 | jetscreamer | wols_: i don't want to know bad enough to find out... |
| 20:09.50 | jetscreamer | working on my transcoding 'skillz' atm |
| 20:09.53 | Red_Cloud | \amethyst, yes, with limited capacity. Mine is Lexmark 7200 but it is 5-6 years old. I probably need to go get a newer printer. |
| 20:09.59 | wols_ | cause there is no swap here and it says 0.4% SI |
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| 20:11.02 | Red_Cloud | \amethyst the resolution of the 7200 is 1200 x 1200 which is more than is recommended 600 x 600 |
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| 20:11.40 | Red_Cloud | please change resolution to dpi |
| 20:11.42 | Andy298 | how can i install webmin with no deps? |
| 20:11.58 | abrotman | they're called dependencies for a reason .. |
| 20:12.00 | abrotman | !webmin |
| 20:12.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
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| 20:12.03 | wols_ | dpkg --force-help |
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| 20:13.07 | roxy_ | Hi all, I got to write a postgraduate paper. I'm pondering using OO2, latex or docbook. anyone could help choosing? |
| 20:13.34 | Red_Cloud | \amethyst, well I will attach my printer and make do until I can go to replace it. Any recommends of a brand with high dpi? |
| 20:13.45 | jetscreamer | what is vmstat |
| 20:13.50 | abrotman | roxy_: what country are you from? |
| 20:13.55 | \amethyst | Red_Cloud: No clue, unfortunately |
| 20:13.57 | roxy_ | abrotman: france |
| 20:14.02 | abrotman | thank goodness |
| 20:14.09 | roxy_ | abrotman: why? |
| 20:14.26 | abrotman | roxy_: "I got to write" is pretty horrible english for someone write a postgrad paper :) |
| 20:14.34 | roxy_ | :-) |
| 20:14.42 | Red_Cloud | roxy, you syntax should "I must write....." |
| 20:14.45 | m1ll3` | anybody experiencing problems with xfce4 after xorg-6.9.0 update? |
| 20:14.50 | \amethyst | roxy_: How strict is the required format? |
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| 20:14.53 | run_dfc | who would i talk to about two of the hosts in the ftp.debian.org DNS rotation not responding to ftp or rsync? |
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| 20:15.06 | \amethyst | roxy_: and is there going to be a lot of maths? |
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| 20:15.46 | m1ll3` | (xfce4-panel:3654): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)` failed and then segfault :/ |
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| 20:16.17 | abrotman | did you check the BTS? |
| 20:16.23 | Red_Cloud | roxy, will your paper be written in French? or English? |
| 20:16.34 | roxy_ | Red_Cloud: french |
| 20:16.41 | abrotman | i'm not sure the language matters |
| 20:16.49 | behemoth | i am confused, if i change the [sharename-hostname], and i restart the samba service, why would the client only see the previous sharename instead of the new that i have created? |
| 20:16.57 | roxy_ | \amethyst: no, just some diag, it is about web caching. |
| 20:17.04 | abrotman | roxy_: you need to find out if you have a specific format to adhere to |
| 20:17.12 | Red_Cloud | roxy, then there is no problem. |
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| 20:17.40 | roxy_ | Red_Cloud: no problem to what? latex, OO2 or docbook . |
| 20:17.41 | wols_ | bllll: clients do chacing. CIFS is a horrible protocol |
| 20:17.48 | wols_ | *caching |
| 20:17.53 | abrotman | ca-ching! |
| 20:17.54 | thewiz | hi i am trying to install kdelibs4c2a ... but when i do : dpkg -i kdelibs4c2a_3.5.1-2_i386.deb .... it comes back saying it cant be done because that package depends on kdelibs-bin .... so i then try to install this kdelibs-bin package but then it says it cant be done because it depends on kdelibs4c2a |
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| 20:18.07 | Red_Cloud | roxy, in reference to the slam for syntax |
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| 20:18.07 | thewiz | i dont know how to do it ... which to install first |
| 20:18.26 | dingus9 | is there a way to hand remove/fix the local apt lists. I have a package that is halting apt and dpkg, it faild a depends test and didn't install fully. now I cant remove it. and it is locking up apt, and dpkg from doing anythig |
| 20:18.31 | wols_ | thewiz: how about apt? |
| 20:18.33 | \amethyst | thewiz: install both from the same time |
| 20:18.35 | wols_ | or installing both at once? |
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| 20:18.52 | thewiz | ok, i will try that |
| 20:18.57 | roxy_ | wols_: did you use CIFS ? |
| 20:18.57 | thewiz | lets see what happens |
| 20:19.11 | wols_ | CIFS is the new name of SMB |
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| 20:19.52 | roxy_ | appart from being anal about my syntax, could anyone give pro/cons about latex/OO2/docBook |
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| 20:20.00 | axa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.23 | citral | roxy_: I you have already content/structure, go for LaTeX |
| 20:20.32 | thewiz | cool it worked ... i moved them both to a folder and then did : dpkg -i * |
| 20:20.54 | kreegee | i got another question: someboy know a good tutorial for building a deb for a application which is built by ant? |
| 20:21.05 | roxy_ | citral: well...when I said not being anal about syntax I didn't mean not using any syntax :-) |
| 20:21.08 | kreegee | all packaging-howtos i found are for gcc |
| 20:21.11 | citral | roxy_: pro: the output looks really pro, con, you need a few hours to learn it |
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| 20:22.18 | roxy_ | citral: I know latex already. OO2 I can probably learn quicly. |
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| 20:22.47 | \amethyst | roxy_: how are you doing your figures? |
| 20:23.12 | blondie | mummy |
| 20:23.24 | roxy_ | \amethyst: if any I was thinking about jpeg stolen from internet or mine with dia |
| 20:23.39 | \amethyst | roxy_: I would recommend against JPEG |
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| 20:23.58 | roxy_ | it is basicaly network diagram. |
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| 20:24.11 | \amethyst | roxy_: remember, you're going to be printing this thing at 600dpi or higher... you'd need a huge bitmap to get good quality |
| 20:24.35 | SonnyBurnett | hi, how can I see my private IP? |
| 20:24.51 | Zugschlus | SonnyBurnett: ifconfig, ip addr |
| 20:24.51 | r_marvin | ifconfig |
| 20:25.14 | roxy_ | anyone using docbook. How easy latex->docbook, docbook->latex. I know latex but never used docbook. |
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| 20:26.00 | Blissex | roxy_: DocBook amazingly hard, but look at the KDE documentation kit that helps a lot with it. |
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| 20:26.36 | SonnyBurnett | Zugschlus, aare you sure? |
| 20:26.43 | Zugschlus | SonnyBurnett: pretty much |
| 20:27.11 | SonnyBurnett | Zugschlus, Ijust see inet addr:169.254.223.123 |
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| 20:27.20 | kreegee | hm, is alioth down? |
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| 20:27.32 | roxy_ | Blissex: worth learning it? I know xml,latex and stuff. How many hours before being able to write a few chapter with biblio, index ... |
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| 20:27.58 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: yes, and? |
| 20:28.09 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: That's a link-local address |
| 20:28.26 | SonnyBurnett | \amethyst, I want to know my private ip address |
| 20:28.32 | roxy_ | \amethyst: you're a latex user? |
| 20:28.37 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: what do you mean by `private IP address'? |
| 20:28.41 | \amethyst | roxy_: yes |
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| 20:28.46 | nvz__ | kreegee: no, I got to lists.alitoth.debian.org |
| 20:28.58 | roxy_ | \amethyst: using emacs ? |
| 20:29.03 | Blissex | roxy_: DocBook is a markup system like LaTeX. The tools are even less mature. |
| 20:29.04 | \amethyst | roxy_: and vi |
| 20:29.12 | nvz__ | er s/lito/lio/ |
| 20:29.21 | Blissex | roxy_: doing documents in DocBook is not hard at all. But rendering them is hard. |
| 20:29.55 | SonnyBurnett | \amethyst, in my /etc/network/interfaces file I set: address 192.168.2.10, how can I know if it was set correctly? |
| 20:29.56 | roxy_ | Blissex: so, for a paper, you would recommend latex? |
| 20:30.17 | Zugschlus | SonnyBurnett: put your /e/n/i on pastebin |
| 20:30.18 | Blissex | roxy_: I have some examples and pointers here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Proj/DocBook/ |
| 20:30.24 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: you set that under eth0? |
| 20:31.03 | Blissex | roxy_: for a paper I'd recommend LaTeX, or a LaTeX frontend like SciTeX or LyX, or just OpenOffice.org (which can do a bit of DocBook) or KWord of course. |
| 20:31.08 | SonnyBurnett | Zugschlus, there you have http://pastebin.com/623835 |
| 20:31.11 | \amethyst | roxy_: does your department have electronic submission requirements? |
| 20:31.16 | SonnyBurnett | \amethyst, yep |
| 20:31.17 | kreegee | nvz: strange |
| 20:31.30 | kreegee | the projects don't seem to work |
| 20:31.39 | kreegee | lists.alitoth.debian.org for me neither |
| 20:31.44 | nvz | kreegee: whats the problem? ah people isnt working for you? |
| 20:31.57 | Zugschlus | SonnyBurnett: looks fine. I don't know whether you need a broadcast statement as well for ifupdown to work ok |
| 20:31.59 | nvz | kreegee: I spelled it wrong, see correction s/lito/lio/ |
| 20:31.59 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: and that's "iface eth0 inet static" (not dhcp)? |
| 20:32.09 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: ifconfig eth0 will tell you eth0's address |
| 20:32.10 | roxy_ | \amethyst: no, it is france. We only speak french and don't do stuff as electronic submission. |
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| 20:32.55 | nvz | kingspawn: people.debian.org, lists.alioth.debian.org, ... |
| 20:32.55 | kreegee | nvz: now i got timeouted, like with the projects |
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| 20:33.03 | kreegee | probably some routing problems |
| 20:33.22 | SonnyBurnett | \amethyst, check the output: http://pastebin.com/623844 |
| 20:33.32 | nvz | kreegee: *shrug* its working for me.. see also samspade.org online network tools you can use anytime you need another hand from outside your network |
| 20:33.43 | Van-midAWAY | i would liekto know how to get the command ANT, i trie apt-get install ant, they refered me to another package named: libant1.5-java |
| 20:34.00 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: okay, so something's changing the IP |
| 20:34.04 | Van-midAWAY | after installed the libant1.5-java, i sitl didnt get thencommand ANT |
| 20:34.09 | nvz | kreegee: i.e. to ping, tracert, whois, ..etc see what problems are from another angle |
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| 20:34.13 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: to 169.254.blah (which is also linklocal) |
| 20:34.14 | d4t2ilL4 | can we transfer file with ssh? |
| 20:34.15 | kreegee | nvz: thanks for the tip |
| 20:34.21 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: can you paste your interfaces file? |
| 20:34.25 | \amethyst | d4t2ilL4: man scp |
| 20:34.25 | roxy_ | Blissex: what are the pro of docbook compare to latex ? |
| 20:34.28 | kreegee | will try with the university vpn |
| 20:34.35 | \amethyst | oh |
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| 20:34.42 | SonnyBurnett | \amethyst, exactly... that's what I mean |
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| 20:34.57 | SonnyBurnett | \amethyst, http://pastebin.com/623835 |
| 20:35.03 | Blissex | roxy_: DocBook is much more structured and suitable for long technical documentation. LaTeX is simpler and more suitable for academic papers. |
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| 20:35.18 | cureless | Van-midAWAY, have you tried installing the package ant? |
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| 20:35.41 | Blissex | roxy_: also, setting up a DocBook printing chain is hard, with LaTeX too, but all distros come with one already set up, so it is easier for end users. |
| 20:35.48 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: hm... is dhclient or anything like that running? |
| 20:36.09 | d4t2ilL4 | \amethyst, thanks, do they usethe same port as ssh? |
| 20:36.14 | \amethyst | d4t2ilL4: yes |
| 20:36.22 | \amethyst | d4t2ilL4: you might also want to look at sshfs |
| 20:36.23 | d4t2ilL4 | coolpix, downloading now :) |
| 20:36.28 | roxy_ | Blissex: well: "LaTeX is simpler" is enough. my timeframe is to short for anything that would make latex seems simple :-) |
| 20:36.37 | \amethyst | d4t2ilL4: it lets you mount a remote directory over an ssh connection |
| 20:36.44 | SonnyBurnett | \amethyst, nop |
| 20:36.52 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: ... |
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| 20:37.04 | \amethyst | SonnyBurnett: what happens if you do ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 ? |
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| 20:37.15 | \amethyst | does it have 192.foo or 169.bar? |
| 20:37.46 | roxy_ | then it is between latex and OO2 and I am far too much of an emacs geek to be happy with OO2. |
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| 20:38.07 | \amethyst | roxy_: You choose... wisely :) |
| 20:38.11 | kraypius | does anything here look like it probably doesnt need to be on? http://pastebin.com/623856 this is a fresh install which will soon have a webserver installed |
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| 20:38.59 | \amethyst | kraypius: looks fine, but check your inetd.conf |
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| 20:39.10 | cocozz | why I amb unable to do a make install for my new kernel ? |
| 20:39.11 | cocozz | im missing something ? |
| 20:39.17 | kimo | Hi, What's the best (and easiest) snort log analyzer ? |
| 20:39.17 | kraypius | k thnx |
| 20:39.19 | d4t2ilL4 | this is \amethyst thanks |
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| 20:39.31 | wols_ | cocozz: use kernel-package |
| 20:39.36 | PeterRus | yippee |
| 20:39.40 | PeterRus | can somone help me? |
| 20:39.40 | SonnyBurnett | \amethyst, the same.. |
| 20:39.44 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 20:39.47 | wols_ | !anyone |
| 20:39.47 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 20:39.48 | roxy_ | \amethyst: and I still got Latex user's guide and reference manual form l.lamport :-). |
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| 20:39.54 | jetscreamer | needed exit $ |
| 20:40.00 | bmk789 | anyone interested in developing a debian based distro please come to #medeix |
| 20:40.18 | jetscreamer | oh and it was on a partition mounted with defaults, so it was noexec |
| 20:40.22 | jetscreamer | :( |
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| 20:40.31 | SonnyBurnett | \amethyst, are you there? |
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| 20:40.46 | davor | hey guys |
| 20:41.06 | davor | every time i try to install a package, or upgrade my system. i get this error. does anyone know how i can fix it? removing fuse device... |
| 20:41.06 | davor | Usage: groupdel group |
| 20:41.06 | davor | dpkg: error processing fuse-utils (--remove): |
| 20:41.06 | davor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:41.36 | davor | anyone? |
| 20:41.39 | PeterRus | i am installing debian on my laptop, but now due to a lack of diskspace (2gb) alot of packages are incomplete and stuff, i am doing a netinstall but that shouldnt be a problem, i can enter text based runmode so thats good, is there a way te remove all non-base packages and reinstall these? |
| 20:42.02 | PeterRus | no idea davor |
| 20:42.02 | kraypius | . /etc/inetd.conf is all commented out |
| 20:42.23 | wols_ | kraypius: check netstat -anp |grep LIST |
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| 20:43.16 | SonnyBurnett | \amethyst, ok I'm here again... the problem persists |
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| 20:43.21 | PeterRus | i think i know how to reinstall the packages, but not how to remove them |
| 20:43.24 | kraypius | http://pastebin.com/623865 |
| 20:43.33 | wols_ | apt-get remove --purge |
| 20:43.42 | PeterRus | me? |
| 20:43.45 | eko | how to start mono on screen ? |
| 20:43.49 | jetscreamer | !reinstall |
| 20:43.50 | dpkg | somebody said reinstall was COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 20:43.50 | roxy_ | PeterRus: how much disk space do you have? |
| 20:43.58 | eko | or run ony command? |
| 20:44.01 | PeterRus | 2gb |
| 20:45.24 | kraypius | exim4? some kind of mail daemon? |
| 20:45.36 | wols_ | kraypius: yes. debian default MTA |
| 20:45.41 | roxy_ | PeterRus: what about installing an older system like redhat 7.3 or the debian equivalent(sorry I wasn't using debian at that time) |
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| 20:45.59 | wols_ | roxy_: debian runs fine in 2GB. really fine |
| 20:46.04 | kreege1 | hm, routing problem, stupid provider... |
| 20:46.09 | wols_ | i ran it in 400MB (with gcc and x clients) |
| 20:46.10 | PeterRus | well. i really like debian, but the only problem is i selected a bit too much packages |
| 20:46.15 | daeos | PeterRus: if all else fails, you could run DSL =D |
| 20:46.18 | kraypius | if im planning on using qmail... should i get rid of exim? |
| 20:46.23 | PeterRus | neh, dsl sucks :p |
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| 20:46.38 | cureless | kraypius, just install qmail, exim will be removed |
| 20:46.39 | wols_ | kraypius: yes you will get rid of it then. but you can only do that be installing qmail instead. you can't just remove exim4 |
| 20:46.40 | dvs | PeterRus: Not for me |
| 20:46.43 | PeterRus | isnt there just a command to remove them? |
| 20:46.50 | PeterRus | its too limited |
| 20:46.54 | Zugschlus | kraypius: why do you want to use qmail? |
| 20:46.56 | daeos | PeterRus: then just do a barebone install |
| 20:47.01 | wols_ | PeterRus: apt-get remove, dpkg -r |
| 20:47.03 | PeterRus | i know i know |
| 20:47.07 | Zugschlus | there is no reason to use qmail in a new install |
| 20:47.18 | PeterRus | those 2 commands and thats it? |
| 20:47.18 | Zugschlus | it's slow, outdated, resource hungry and unmaintained |
| 20:47.24 | cureless | PeterRus, use aptitude, deselect what you don't need |
| 20:47.28 | wols_ | Zugschlus: there is never a reason to use qmail :) |
| 20:47.29 | kraypius | i heard qmail is somwhat secure |
| 20:47.37 | PeterRus | sorry, i dont know how to do that? |
| 20:47.41 | wols_ | kraypius: exim4 is as secure. as is postfix |
| 20:47.42 | cureless | kraypius, postfix |
| 20:47.44 | PeterRus | exact instructions? |
| 20:47.45 | wols_ | so don't use it |
| 20:47.46 | Zugschlus | kraypius: it used to be secure ten years ago |
| 20:47.52 | roxy_ | thanks guys/girls for your help. |
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| 20:47.56 | kraypius | heh |
| 20:47.59 | cureless | PeterRus, run aptitude |
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| 20:48.07 | PeterRus | in text only mode? |
| 20:48.07 | wols_ | PeterRus: dpkg -l to see what you have installed. then remove stuff with apt-gte remove |
| 20:48.16 | cureless | PeterRus, yes |
| 20:48.19 | wols_ | aptitude is text only yes |
| 20:48.19 | PeterRus | ill try that |
| 20:48.19 | daeos | PeterRus: its text based |
| 20:48.24 | PeterRus | okiie :D |
| 20:48.25 | PeterRus | brb |
| 20:48.27 | daeos | PeterRus: ASCII type :) |
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| 20:48.37 | kraypius | has anyone ever heard of ytalk posing a security risk? |
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| 20:48.45 | cureless | PeterRus, if it's not installed, then do like wols_ said, run dpkg -l, see a list of packages, removed them with apt-get |
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| 20:49.14 | cureless | kraypius, do you need ytalk? |
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| 20:50.03 | kraypius | kind of... its really nice for learning new linux stuff and for providing users with shell access bash related support |
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| 20:50.30 | wols_ | must be some other ytalk I know then... |
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| 20:50.48 | allix | is there a native 64 bit Oo for the unofficial 64 bit debian ? |
| 20:51.00 | kraypius | ytalk is how i learned most of what i know... cause you can see each others command prompt |
| 20:51.28 | PeterRus | damn, sudo isnt installed, so i cannot do anything in root :o |
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| 20:51.34 | row | where would I locate a ppp session uptime? |
| 20:51.39 | daeos | Im trying to setup my own email server on my server, does Debian support some type of SMTP/POP3 server setup? and what program would i use to set it all up via command line. |
| 20:51.41 | wols_ | PeterRus: su |
| 20:51.47 | PeterRus | ok |
| 20:51.48 | chealer9 | allix: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 20:51.52 | PeterRus | su command? |
| 20:51.57 | dvs | daeos: it has serveral |
| 20:52.04 | wols_ | yes |
| 20:52.23 | dvs | daeos: apt-cache search smtp server |
| 20:53.01 | cureless | daeos, debian has many mail servers. |
| 20:53.19 | cureless | daeos, are you looking for one in particular? |
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| 20:53.54 | daeos | not really looking for one in particular, just something that is easy to configure and is secure |
| 20:54.00 | wols_ | daeos: realistically you have choice of 3 MTAs: postfix, exim4 and qmail. mainly first two |
| 20:54.13 | daeos | exim4..... hmmm |
| 20:54.25 | daeos | i think i saw that one at the initial install of debian |
| 20:54.25 | wols_ | for imap server you'd want courier, cyrus21 or dovecot, again your choice. there are pop3 servres too. ignore them, they are useless |
| 20:54.25 | PeterRus | aw its all fokked up :( |
| 20:54.30 | cureless | daeos, debian default is exim |
| 20:54.32 | dvs | wols_: exim4 is the default, right? |
| 20:54.34 | wols_ | those imap servers do pop3 too btw |
| 20:54.37 | daeos | pop3 is what i need |
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| 20:54.40 | wols_ | yes exim4 is default |
| 20:54.46 | PeterRus | i think i just keep DSL it wasnt that bad after all :) |
| 20:54.47 | frood2003 | hi all |
| 20:54.47 | wols_ | daeos: no you don't, trust me |
| 20:54.54 | daeos | really? why? |
| 20:54.57 | wols_ | and all those imap servers do pop3 too |
| 20:55.03 | wols_ | cause imap is better in any way |
| 20:55.03 | daeos | cool |
| 20:55.07 | cureless | daeos, do you know _why_ you need pop3? |
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| 20:55.18 | frood2003 | where can i find debian sarge ISO images using newer kernel versions? |
| 20:55.37 | wols_ | daeos: imap is much better in a lan cause you can centrally keep the mail sotrage. much less headache and chance to lose mail |
| 20:55.45 | wols_ | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 20:55.46 | dpkg | i guess sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 20:55.57 | PeterRus | well then i have just one question: where can i locate a file which runs a given command eveytime i boot dsl? (i want modprobe bla bla bla to run for my soundcard) |
| 20:56.09 | daeos | not going to be just lan, also to a small group of 10 to 15 users |
| 20:56.16 | wols_ | PeterRus: man modules. file is /etc/modules |
| 20:56.25 | Sim0s | sorry for my bad english frist, does anyone know if there is a patch about linux kernel socket buffer memory exhaustion bug ? |
| 20:56.25 | wols_ | PeterRus: and this id a debian channel. we don't do DSL |
| 20:56.30 | PeterRus | ill try that |
| 20:56.46 | PeterRus | i know sorry, ill leave now tnx anyway ;D |
| 20:57.03 | wols_ | daeos: they can use pop3 if they want. but use imap. also gives you very easy webmail. folders, etc. just all around better |
| 20:57.08 | frood2003 | wols_ if this is it, you are a fscking legand |
| 20:57.40 | daeos | ah webmail is what i wanted also |
| 20:57.40 | wols_ | webmail with pop3 is a pain. not really doable |
| 20:57.40 | Zugschlus | wols_: if you consider qmail, you need to consider sendmail as well |
| 20:57.40 | daeos | ok |
| 20:57.52 | r_marvin | postfix!!! :) |
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| 20:58.07 | streuner | !start a MTA war |
| 20:58.08 | dpkg | qmail owns |
| 20:58.11 | Zugschlus | !dpkg startg an mta war |
| 20:58.13 | cureless | daeos, you could try the courier servers. I myself run postfix with courier. |
| 20:58.16 | wols_ | Zugschlus: qmail totally sucks, but it doesn't suck as much as sendmail. so it's in :) |
| 20:58.18 | Zugschlus | courier sucks |
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| 20:58.23 | daeos | so, courier... cyrus21 or dovecot ? |
| 20:58.29 | Zugschlus | wols_: no, sendmail is actually better than qmail. |
| 20:58.35 | Zugschlus | At least, sendmail honors the relevant standards |
| 20:58.38 | Zugschlus | qmail does not |
| 20:58.41 | dvs | daeos: I use courier |
| 20:58.46 | daeos | courier... ok |
| 20:58.48 | wols_ | daeos: depends what you want. I use postfix/cyrus21. but courier has other advantages. never used dovecote personalloy |
| 20:58.55 | Coweater | !start a mta war |
| 20:58.55 | dpkg | exim is hard to configure |
| 20:59.06 | Zugschlus | !dpkg shut up |
| 20:59.06 | dpkg | Kiss my shiny metal ass! |
| 20:59.08 | daeos | i just need email for less than 15 users, easy to use.... has webmail |
| 20:59.21 | cureless | daeos, it depends on your setup, you might want to try out and see what's easy to set up for what you want. |
| 20:59.27 | wols_ | daeos: webmail is yet another package, like squirrelmail |
| 20:59.30 | streuner | !literal cmd: start a MTA war (.*?) |
| 20:59.42 | r_marvin | i hard that xmail is kinda cool |
| 20:59.43 | tiCo89 | if i set up a system with only one domain i really like dovecot |
| 20:59.50 | r_marvin | *heard |
| 20:59.51 | daeos | and works good with some type of spam filtering |
| 20:59.56 | tiCo89 | if it's with virtual domains etc. i prefer courier with mysql |
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| 21:00.15 | wols_ | daeos: spamfilter is yet another thing :) spamassassin or dspam usually |
| 21:00.32 | daeos | i'll go for spamassassin |
| 21:00.35 | cureless | daeos, you're in for a good amount of setup :-) |
| 21:00.52 | wols_ | daeos: this is a rather big setup (at least possibly big) but excellent tutorial: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ |
| 21:01.09 | elirips | msg dpkg xorg sarge |
| 21:01.15 | wols_ | daeos: mail setup is never easy. NEVER. if you want it "easy" stop right here |
| 21:01.25 | daeos | LOL |
| 21:01.28 | r_marvin | uh |
| 21:01.34 | dvs | wols_: You got that right |
| 21:01.35 | r_marvin | it's easy for me :) |
| 21:01.35 | streuner | !literal start an MTA war |
| 21:01.35 | dpkg | "#debian start an mta war" is "<REPLY> (sendmail|qmail|courier|exim|postfix|smail) (is a spam magnet|systems are liable to be r00ted|rulez|sucks|owns|loses mail|is hard to configure|has shitty documentation|has an evil license)" |
| 21:01.46 | hound | can someone help me increase my screen resolution, I messed up dpkg-reconfigure a while ago and have just got x running again. |
| 21:01.46 | daeos | then i don't care if its hard |
| 21:01.53 | Stevie | !start an mta war |
| 21:01.53 | dpkg | qmail is a spam magnet |
| 21:01.55 | r_marvin | at least until antispam stuff |
| 21:02.08 | daeos | if its easier than setting up WAMP, then it'll be a breeze |
| 21:02.12 | hound | I need 1280x768 ... currently on 800x600 which makes working hard |
| 21:02.18 | dvs | hound: That's usually a factor of your monitor frequencies |
| 21:02.25 | streuner | !drxx hound |
| 21:02.25 | dpkg | hound: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 21:02.31 | wols_ | dvs: that's more than easy. it's harder |
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| 21:03.11 | hound | dvs, how can I check my frequencies at the moment? |
| 21:03.27 | cureless | daeos, look for howtos related to the MTA you choose. |
| 21:03.40 | cureless | daeos, read first, screw up later :-) |
| 21:03.55 | hound | streuner, I used xf86config not dpkg-reconfigure.... anything I should know? |
| 21:03.59 | dvs | hound: It's in your /etc/X11/XF86Config file as HorizFreq and VertFreq |
| 21:03.59 | wols_ | daeos: for postfix, #postfix here on this server is excellent. dunno about exim4 |
| 21:04.15 | dvs | hound: XF86Config-4 that is |
| 21:04.32 | hound | dvs, OK I'll back up that file and do a reconfig. again. |
| 21:04.36 | hound | is that safe? |
| 21:04.44 | cureless | yes |
| 21:04.58 | hound | thx see you in a bit |
| 21:05.10 | daeos | postfix.... good server to setup? |
| 21:05.17 | cureless | daeos, yes |
| 21:05.27 | escalade | !MTA |
| 21:05.27 | dpkg | [mta] a mail transfer agent, in other words sendmail or any of its replacements (such as exim4, postfix, qmail, ssmtp, zmail, etc).. |
| 21:06.10 | daeos | !postfix |
| 21:06.10 | dpkg | methinks postfix is a really cool MTA, which tries not to be too unlike sendmail so that its hard to get used to but is much better than sendmail or is at http://www.postfix.org , or #postfix |
| 21:06.14 | escalade | that makes sense =) |
| 21:06.28 | Zugschlus | daeos: consider hiring somebody to build that server for you |
| 21:06.33 | daeos | why |
| 21:06.41 | wols_ | postfix was easire for me than exim :) |
| 21:06.42 | daeos | i've got the time |
| 21:06.53 | Zugschlus | daeos: because you obviously do not know enough about e-mail to be successful in less than a full week of time |
| 21:06.56 | tarzeau | abrotman: not yet |
| 21:06.58 | dvs | daeos: Yeah, try it yourself first |
| 21:07.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: sdl is broken on gnu/kfreebsd |
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| 21:07.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: brutalchess is up! and now you can apt-get install freebsd-manpages :) |
| 21:07.17 | daeos | not in any hurry, currently have a WAMP server trying to convert to LAMP with email |
| 21:07.36 | daeos | my current WAMP server uses desknow |
| 21:07.39 | wols_ | ick. windows as a server. heresy |
| 21:07.40 | daeos | for email |
| 21:07.48 | daeos | thats why im converting!! |
| 21:07.58 | Zugschlus | wols_: windows is a surprisingly decent server these days |
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| 21:08.12 | Zugschlus | the problem is that windows admins are typically underqualified |
| 21:08.20 | r_marvin | yup, i saw some pretty nifty warez servers on windoze lately |
| 21:08.31 | wols_ | Zugschlus: the problem is that windows never ever was designed as a server. and it shows imho |
| 21:08.37 | r_marvin | too bad the owners didn't know about them |
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| 21:09.03 | wols_ | it's a fairly decent desktop nowadays if you keep the MS lock in software to a minimum, but a server from it will always suck |
| 21:09.11 | wols_ | tbh I haveN't looked at 2k3 yet |
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| 21:09.57 | abrotman | tarzeau: upload it! |
| 21:10.10 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm not dd. but you can if you want |
| 21:10.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: did you apply yet? |
| 21:10.20 | Zugschlus | wols_: you're prejudiced |
| 21:10.30 | abrotman | tarzeau: UPLOAD! |
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| 21:10.36 | daeos | i was using 2000 Advanced Server, got tired of IIS, then used XP Media Center with Apache,PHP,MySQL , its funny, WAMP took me 4 hours to get working right, and right now my server LAMP took me 1 hour after debian was finished installing |
| 21:10.39 | abrotman | damog: UPLOAD FOR TARZEAU |
| 21:10.55 | wols_ | Zugschlus: yes, by years of good reason for my prejudices :) |
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| 21:11.01 | elionbel | New Debian user here. Someone installed a real crappy FTP program on my box and I was needing help changing it out to glftpd. Any help would be appreciated (I'm linux dumb) |
| 21:11.16 | Kevin` | what is a good Free program for dvd writing? |
| 21:11.17 | wols_ | and a server just doesn't need a gui for adminning. just doesn't |
| 21:11.22 | tarzeau | abrotman: haha |
| 21:11.22 | Zugschlus | wols_: right. |
| 21:11.24 | cureless | elionbel, are you using debian? |
| 21:11.27 | elionbel | ya |
| 21:11.28 | cureless | Kevin`, k3b |
| 21:11.30 | tarzeau | abrotman: the weather is beautiful in switzerland, btw |
| 21:11.34 | elionbel | Debian Sarge I believe |
| 21:11.37 | dvs | elionbel: just install the new one |
| 21:11.37 | Zugschlus | wols_: but, unfortunately, windows isn't all that bad as we would like to see it |
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| 21:11.40 | Kevin` | k3b is a frontend to other programs |
| 21:11.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: so go outside! |
| 21:11.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've been to zurich at bellevue, nice for the eyse |
| 21:11.53 | Kevin` | (I don't want to use a gui) |
| 21:11.54 | elionbel | won't the ftp programs overlap? |
| 21:11.56 | cureless | Kevin`, it is, what's your point? |
| 21:12.00 | tarzeau | abrotman: i was, it's 23:15 now, and i should go to bed sometime later |
| 21:12.03 | daeos | yeah my server is running well...but gets in the way of my gaming habit |
| 21:12.04 | abrotman | oh ok |
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| 21:12.07 | cureless | Kevin`, dvd+rw-tools then |
| 21:12.08 | tarzeau | abrotman: btw tried ftp.app yet? |
| 21:12.11 | abrotman | no |
| 21:12.18 | dvs | elionbel: If the old one doesn't come out, uninstall it manually |
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| 21:12.21 | abrotman | wtf uses ftp? |
| 21:12.50 | elionbel | hehe, seriously, I'm a linux noob. |
| 21:12.51 | cureless | Kevin`, cdrdao and/or cdrecord might help too |
| 21:13.02 | daeos | abrotman: I DO!!!! |
| 21:13.06 | wols_ | Zugschlus: yes, but there are better alternatives. note what I said about it as a desktop. linux has loads to g there to be as good. but on the server it's the other way around |
| 21:13.09 | Zugschlus | !start an os war |
| 21:13.10 | dpkg | VMS is better than Debian! Amiga Rocks! |
| 21:13.11 | kraypius | so .. postfix? if i install it with apt it will automatically get rid of exim, install postfix.. then i just have to do some basic configuration? |
| 21:13.17 | elionbel | basically I'm asking if I can trouble someone to ssh in and do this for me ;) |
| 21:13.18 | zmotok | people does anyone have an idea why I'm having a problem installing libpango1.0-common? all it says before dpkg quits is: /usr/bin/pango-querymodules: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_intern_static_string |
| 21:13.25 | Stevie | !start a tape format war |
| 21:13.31 | Juerd | I'm looking for a command line tool that can resize an image, while preserving EXIF information |
| 21:13.34 | Stevie | no betamax vs vhs? |
| 21:13.44 | cureless | elionbel, you wqant somebodt to ssh into your server and install something for you?? |
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| 21:13.47 | r_marvin | !start an editor war |
| 21:13.47 | dpkg | pico doesn't deserve to be in debian |
| 21:13.51 | daeos | !start an os war |
| 21:13.51 | dpkg | VMS is better than Debian! Amiga Rocks! |
| 21:13.57 | cureless | Jubal, mogrify |
| 21:13.58 | daeos | lol |
| 21:14.09 | daeos | cureless: im going to read up on that site you gave me |
| 21:14.10 | sudo-kill_MsWin | vms? |
| 21:14.11 | elionbel | cureless, yeah...gimpy isn't it? |
| 21:14.13 | wols_ | Juerd: imagemagick not doing it? |
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| 21:14.32 | Juerd | wols_: Not with convert -scale, at least |
| 21:14.33 | cureless | elionbel, don't do that, ever. If you've done that before start by reinstalling. |
| 21:14.38 | Kevin` | cureless ty |
| 21:14.45 | cureless | elionbel, people in this channel can help you out. |
| 21:14.51 | Juerd | Oh, "jhead" looks promising |
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| 21:15.07 | solid_liq | kraypius: just shut it down as soon as it's installed |
| 21:15.11 | wols_ | kraypius: it won't mangle anything. it installs it scurely. no open relay or anything |
| 21:15.18 | solid_liq | kraypius: I just installed postfix 2 days ago, it's easy |
| 21:15.19 | cureless | elionbel, if you need to install something try using aptitude if you're not 100% confortable with apt-get. And spend some minutes reading up on installing packages in debian, it'll pay off. |
| 21:15.24 | wols_ | solid_liq: no good. you need a MDA at least |
| 21:15.28 | mentor | Anyone else getting huge packet loss from CAble and Wireless going through Manchester and London in the UK? |
| 21:15.29 | solid_liq | kraypius: just follow a tutorial |
| 21:15.43 | elionbel | k |
| 21:16.04 | daeos | mentor: give me an ip to ping |
| 21:16.04 | solid_liq | wols_, kraypius: use courier-imap |
| 21:16.05 | daeos | or trace |
| 21:16.13 | kraypius | k.. well.. the docs on postfix configuration variables doesnt seem difficult at all |
| 21:16.18 | elionbel | First off, I'm using vsftpd, how do I remove all that? |
| 21:16.22 | kraypius | courier imap? |
| 21:16.24 | wols_ | solid_liq: I already use cyrus21 since courier is just too slow |
| 21:16.24 | cureless | kraypius, apt-get install postfix, easy. |
| 21:16.35 | dvs | elionbel: apt-get remove vsftp |
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| 21:16.40 | wols_ | kyncani: imap server to access your mail |
| 21:16.41 | moke1801 | elionbel: apt-get remove --purge vsftpd |
| 21:16.49 | cureless | kraypius, read up on courier imap. Go to the postfix site, look at the howtos for postfix+courier-imap. |
| 21:16.54 | solid_liq | dunno, courier seems fine for me |
| 21:17.04 | elionbel | ooo |
| 21:17.05 | mentor | daeos: home.bvrh.co.uk |
| 21:17.06 | elionbel | nice :D |
| 21:17.13 | elionbel | ok, removing vsftpd |
| 21:17.26 | tof_ | hi, I have a problem with the boot sequence, raid devices tries to be started before my sda dsb disks are recognized. How can I change that? |
| 21:17.29 | kraypius | oh so postfix instead of sendmail... courier imap instead of popd? |
| 21:17.43 | daeos | mentor: thats some bad packetloss |
| 21:17.53 | dvs | kraypius: That's pretty much my setup |
| 21:17.53 | daeos | call manx.net |
| 21:18.06 | eko | how packet remove on debian ? |
| 21:18.13 | moke1801 | kraypius: had the same setup, works great |
| 21:18.14 | kraypius | hmm |
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| 21:18.20 | cureless | eko apt-get remove packetname |
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| 21:18.28 | moke1801 | eko: apt-get remove package |
| 21:18.35 | cureless | kraypius, I also run postfix + courier-imap |
| 21:18.37 | eko | thanks |
| 21:18.37 | mentor | daeos: so-2-3-0.ycr1.mcr.cw.net |
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| 21:18.53 | elionbel | dvs, pmsg |
| 21:19.00 | zmotok | uf, anyone have a glib/libpango problem lately? |
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| 21:19.02 | dvs | elionbel: huh? |
| 21:19.06 | mentor | daeos: so-0-0-0-zcr1.lnt.cw.net |
| 21:19.11 | moke1801 | kraypius: add maildrop for virtual account quotas ans squirrelmail...great:) |
| 21:19.13 | elionbel | I got a message |
| 21:19.14 | elionbel | dpkg - warning: while removing vsftpd, directory `/var/run/vsftpd' not empty so not removed. |
| 21:19.30 | cureless | elionbel, not a problem. |
| 21:19.32 | moke1801 | elionbel: not important |
| 21:19.33 | elionbel | k |
| 21:19.36 | dvs | elionbel: you can remove it manually as root but it's no big deal |
| 21:19.42 | elionbel | k |
| 21:19.52 | elionbel | now to install glftpd? |
| 21:19.57 | elionbel | wget it from the site? |
| 21:20.01 | moke1801 | apt-get install glftpd |
| 21:20.07 | dvs | elionbel: apt-get install glftpd |
| 21:20.09 | sudo-kill_MsWin | CAMTASIA LINUX: mi debian linux distro on video = http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=1722 |
| 21:20.11 | cureless | elionbel, apt-get is your friend. |
| 21:20.21 | cureless | elionbel, did we go over why you need an ftpd? |
| 21:20.26 | elionbel | E: Couldn't find package glftpd |
| 21:20.36 | daeos | mentor: im showing some ips in the range of 195.10.119.foobar |
| 21:20.36 | dvs | elionbel: apt-cache search glftp |
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| 21:20.58 | elionbel | i fxp from other sites |
| 21:21.01 | kraypius | maildrop is better to use than postfix? |
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| 21:21.18 | moke1801 | kraypius: postfix is mta maildrop mda |
| 21:21.18 | cureless | kraypius, they're not competing products |
| 21:21.19 | mentor | daeos: Not going through cw.net? meh, my theory that they're our upstream peer goes poof then. |
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| 21:21.24 | mentor | daeos: How about those other routers? |
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| 21:21.32 | daeos | lemme check |
| 21:21.35 | kraypius | meaning what? |
| 21:21.39 | elionbel | still not finding glftpd |
| 21:21.43 | cormorano | hi |
| 21:21.48 | kraypius | oic |
| 21:21.50 | kraypius | nm' |
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| 21:21.54 | tof_ | I can't use my raid system because my disks are initialized after the raid, how can I change the boot order (it's not in rc2.d, it seems to be more "system" than that) |
| 21:21.58 | cureless | kraypius, postfix transfers emails between computers, maildrop delivers them to users. |
| 21:22.05 | moke1801 | kraypius: maildrop deliveres mail recived by mta toy your mailbox |
| 21:22.10 | cureless | elionbel, what is this glftpd you speak of? |
| 21:22.11 | daeos | i need their ips |
| 21:22.36 | elionbel | it's an ftp program that allows me to regulate leechers and fxp in from other sites |
| 21:22.45 | cureless | elionbel, use proftpd |
| 21:22.51 | elionbel | don't like that one |
| 21:23.01 | Stevie | what if you do apt-get install postfix-with-gaping-holes ? |
| 21:23.04 | elionbel | I haven't been able to put cap restrictions on people |
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| 21:23.23 | cureless | elionbel, because you don't know how? |
| 21:23.24 | moke1801 | elionbel: than download source from the site and compile |
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| 21:23.32 | solid_liq | Stevie: you're supposed to edit /etc/postfix/main.cfg |
| 21:23.37 | cureless | Stevie, what do you mean? |
| 21:23.42 | elionbel | and proftpd is odd for letting me fxp from other sites |
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| 21:24.01 | kraypius | so a good setup would be... postfix for mta, courier-imap for an mtd and maildrop is just a filering agent for courier? |
| 21:24.02 | solid_liq | vsftpd is better |
| 21:24.04 | mentor | daeos: I gave two cw.net routers above? |
| 21:24.23 | moke1801 | kraypius: yep |
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| 21:24.32 | cureless | kraypius, start by using just postfix. Once you have that, move on to add other stuff. |
| 21:24.47 | cureless | kraypius, don't try to get everything at once or you'll run into big problems. |
| 21:24.58 | solid_liq | kraypius: and you can use fetchmail as well if you want to pull e-mail off an existing server for your users |
| 21:25.00 | wols_ | solid_liq: there is no main.cfg only a main.cf |
| 21:25.09 | moke1801 | kraypius: get postfix working localy, then allow remote access to mailboxes, then filter |
| 21:25.13 | solid_liq | wols_: urm, erps |
| 21:25.23 | kraypius | k, thanks |
| 21:25.36 | solid_liq | wols_: I guess my finger landed in the middle of f and g |
| 21:25.45 | daeos | yeah i can't ping by router names |
| 21:25.51 | kraypius | im trying not to resort to paying people to do the work for me this time like i did on my last server |
| 21:25.57 | wols_ | Stevie: postfix the way apt installs it has no holes. if there are any in the future, they were put in by yourself |
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| 21:27.23 | daeos_ | dang it.... i hate the break key |
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| 21:27.58 | solid_liq | daeos_: then break it :D |
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| 21:28.25 | escalade | i setup my videocard as vga i wanted vesa how can i change (what config file?) |
| 21:28.44 | dvs | !drxx escalade |
| 21:28.45 | dpkg | escalade: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 21:28.51 | fernandokts | problems compilating GRUB, can anyone help me? |
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| 21:29.08 | solid_liq | fernandokts: what's compilating? |
| 21:29.40 | daeos_ | good thing i still had that link for the imap server how to |
| 21:29.40 | wols_ | !tell fernandokts about anyone |
| 21:29.49 | wols_ | also: grub is in debian, so why do you need to compile it? |
| 21:30.00 | SkareCrow | how do i set my path so it is like set for everyone? when i try and set it with export PATH=$PATH:/new/path it only works for that user |
| 21:30.09 | solid_liq | !tell fernandokts about compiling |
| 21:30.43 | escalade | !vesa |
| 21:30.43 | dpkg | VESA, arguable at least, stands for "video electronics standards association" and is a mode that can be used on vid cards for the framebuffer xserver and other neat stuff. |
| 21:31.09 | solid_liq | !vga |
| 21:31.15 | cureless | SkareCrow, you need to change that in a global config file, like the ones in /etc/ |
| 21:31.25 | fernandokts | sorry |
| 21:31.27 | fernandokts | compiling |
| 21:31.31 | solid_liq | !agp |
| 21:31.44 | SkareCrow | is there a certain file? |
| 21:31.54 | dvs | fernandokts: you don't compile grub, you configure it |
| 21:31.59 | SkareCrow | im trying to figure out what file i need to edit |
| 21:32.24 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: set it in /etc/profile |
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| 21:32.57 | SkareCrow | once i edit i. is there a certain comand to reload it? cause i know that file is called when u login |
| 21:33.07 | wols_ | fernandokts: will you ask your question/state your problem or not? |
| 21:33.16 | wols_ | solid_liq: you need to log out and in again |
| 21:33.23 | wols_ | SkareCrow: |
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| 21:33.34 | mentor | daeos_: Thanks for hte help, anyway. :) |
| 21:33.36 | solid_liq | wols_: wrong person :D |
| 21:33.50 | Juerd | Is there a way to do cp -p (preserve attributes) without copying the data? :) |
| 21:33.57 | kraypius | hmm im gonna make a list of everything i need to install so i guess i could use a few more suggestions |
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| 21:34.03 | kraypius | ftp? |
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| 21:34.06 | kraypius | proftp? |
| 21:34.09 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: as wols_ was trying to say, logout and back it. But you can do a quick test by typing '. /etc/profile' |
| 21:34.12 | Juerd | i.e. I want to transfer one directory's attributes (most importantly mtime) to another |
| 21:34.17 | Elly | hey guys, is it possible to do a debian install with no monitor but with ssh? |
| 21:34.22 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: (note the space after the .) |
| 21:34.23 | daeos_ | mentor: just call your isp |
| 21:34.27 | SkareCrow | yes |
| 21:34.31 | wols_ | kraypius: vsftpd |
| 21:34.33 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: or you can use source in place of the dot |
| 21:34.35 | kingsley | Juerd: How about cp -p <source> /dev/null |
| 21:34.36 | wols_ | for a small one that is |
| 21:34.56 | kraypius | small in size or small meaning it shouldnt be used by a crapload of people? |
| 21:34.56 | solid_liq | kraypius: no, vsftpd |
| 21:35.04 | mentor | daeos_: I was going to, but they're a monopoly, so they're fecking useless. :) |
| 21:35.22 | Juerd | kingsley: That does nothing with the destination file :) |
| 21:35.33 | SkareCrow | alright it kinda worked i guess. but not for root |
| 21:35.45 | solid_liq | kraypius: www.kernel.org uses vsftpd |
| 21:35.45 | Juerd | kingsley: I resized a bunch of images, now I want the modified-time to be the original one again. |
| 21:35.52 | Juerd | kingsley: Though I think I'll just script it with perl |
| 21:35.53 | wols_ | SkareCrow: cause root has its own PATH of course |
| 21:35.58 | Juerd | (stat + utime) |
| 21:36.04 | justin_ | Just a question: Has anybody got XGL + kde + debian unstable working? I seem to be the only one trying :) |
| 21:36.05 | solid_liq | kraypius: and that site is not small in any way |
| 21:36.13 | SkareCrow | well how do i set that? |
| 21:36.28 | tarzeau | justin_: #debian-kde ? |
| 21:36.30 | cureless | Juerd, you can use touch to set the time |
| 21:36.32 | Elly | so guys, install with no monitor? is it possible? |
| 21:36.33 | tarzeau | justin_: are you TEH justin? |
| 21:36.39 | justin_ | TEH ? |
| 21:36.43 | kingsley | Juerd: Yes, my understanding is that some scripting will be required. |
| 21:36.49 | SkareCrow | my name is justin also :) |
| 21:36.52 | Juerd | cureless: But that can't read in the data from the original file |
| 21:36.52 | tarzeau | justinm: or you? |
| 21:37.00 | tarzeau | justin: or you? |
| 21:37.02 | justin_ | no me : |
| 21:37.04 | justin_ | :) |
| 21:37.04 | kraypius | ahh i like that "Very Secure ftpd" |
| 21:37.06 | moke1801 | Elly: no idea, but can not say cause i never looked |
| 21:37.09 | cureless | Elly, yes, over serial, why not borrow a monitor? |
| 21:37.09 | Juerd | The following oneliner did what I wanted: |
| 21:37.18 | tarzeau | the one with the windows binaries on his homepage |
| 21:37.20 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: set what? |
| 21:37.20 | justin_ | Uhm i'll try it in debian-kde :) |
| 21:37.25 | SkareCrow | the root path |
| 21:37.28 | Juerd | perl -e'utime undef, (stat)[9], "small/$_" for <*.jpg>' |
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| 21:37.30 | cureless | Juerd, oh, you want to read exif and set that time? |
| 21:37.32 | atrus | is it possible to get my radeonfb framebuffer to recognize my LCD's native resolution, 1440x900? |
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| 21:37.44 | kraypius | what about DNS server? |
| 21:37.45 | Juerd | cureless: No, exif I had already done. This is purely a filesystem thing |
| 21:37.49 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: edit /root/.profile |
| 21:37.55 | SkareCrow | thx |
| 21:37.57 | Juerd | (It turned out that the imagemagick I was using was too old) |
| 21:38.01 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: you don't want root's path to be the same as regular users |
| 21:38.06 | Juerd | (Newer ones perfectly copy over the exif data when scaling) |
| 21:38.31 | Error_X | Yo, I'm trying to install debian woody (From a bf install), but when I try to install it via a network source, it says after validating packages and such: Couldn't download adduser (I've tried alot of diffrent mirrors) |
| 21:38.32 | cureless | kraypius, bind9 maybe. |
| 21:38.43 | kraypius | i guess i should probably get DNS configured before i install any of these services |
| 21:38.49 | solid_liq | atrus: switch to nvidia and you'll have fewer problems ;) |
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| 21:38.52 | tainc | Question: running cupsd server on deb3.1 box, printing to it via ipp (laserjet1100) from powerbook. Powerbook spooler reports all pages printed, but cupsd admin appears to only receive one page, and only prints one page. |
| 21:38.54 | cureless | Error_X, why woody and not sarge? |
| 21:38.58 | dvs | kraypius: That would be a good idea ;-) |
| 21:38.59 | kraypius | which is probably gonna be the trickiest thing for me |
| 21:39.00 | SkareCrow | solid_liq: Why is that? |
| 21:39.20 | Error_X | cureless: Because its a 486 with 40mb of ram. |
| 21:39.34 | cureless | Error_X, sarge doesnt' install? |
| 21:39.40 | dvs | kraypius: I installed bind9 and it was dead simple. |
| 21:39.46 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: because you want root to have /sbin, /usr/sbin, etc. in the PATH, but you don't want regular users to have those directories in their path |
| 21:39.54 | cureless | kraypius, bind is easy compared to email |
| 21:39.56 | Error_X | cureless: Nope, I get some errors that I can't remember now.. |
| 21:40.01 | kraypius | really? |
| 21:40.09 | daeos_ | since i had pressed break , can i get a repeat of what i was told about the imap server postfix ? |
| 21:40.22 | daeos_ | dvs: you told me about postfix right? |
| 21:40.24 | wols_ | kraypius: don't be your own dns server. just don't |
| 21:40.31 | SkareCrow | but i added a couple new commands suh as "cls" and "motd" |
| 21:40.32 | solid_liq | kraypius: I agree with dvs, I couldn't believe how easy bind9 was to install |
| 21:40.34 | wols_ | kraypius: and do not install bind9 |
| 21:40.34 | daeos_ | cureless: what did you say about postfix ? |
| 21:40.36 | kraypius | wols, why not? |
| 21:40.39 | tainc | any thoughts on the cups problem? |
| 21:40.43 | SkareCrow | idont think it will hurt to set the path to those in the root path |
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| 21:40.53 | eko | orge.net_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 21:40.54 | eko | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kanotix.com ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kanotix.com_files_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 21:40.54 | eko | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.54 | wols_ | cause it's unneeded and bind9 is not very secure |
| 21:41.05 | eko | why ?:( |
| 21:41.09 | cureless | daeos_, postfix by itself is easy. imap, spamassasin, etc will make it hard. |
| 21:41.21 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: why cls? use clear |
| 21:41.23 | wols_ | eko: #kanotix. this is #debian, we don't do kanotix here |
| 21:41.28 | dvs | daeos_: I use postfix, yeah |
| 21:41.32 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: and fortune is nicer than motd |
| 21:41.33 | fernandokts | wols_: Sorry. I want to make a central boot manager, and for that I'm trying to recompile GRUB with --enable-sis900. And When I try that it gets lots of errors |
| 21:41.41 | daeos | perfect... |
| 21:41.42 | kraypius | wols, people are already pointed to ns1 and ns2.mydomain.com relying on my dns from my old server |
| 21:41.51 | SkareCrow | gah: this is my box isnt it? :P |
| 21:41.53 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: but motd is usually in a file, and you just cat it |
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| 21:42.05 | eko | sory:( |
| 21:42.08 | SkareCrow | its easier to just type motd to look at the motd |
| 21:42.09 | fernandokts | is there anyway to do that without recompiling grub?(because I hate recompiling stuff :) ) |
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| 21:42.20 | SkareCrow | it just uses PHP to echo out the motd |
| 21:42.31 | daeos | cureless: all of this can be done via command line right? |
| 21:42.33 | wols_ | fernandokts: not sure. paste the errors somewhere |
| 21:42.43 | daeos | cureless: this will be fun |
| 21:42.45 | cureless | daeos, what part? (I'm carried too many conversations now) |
| 21:42.50 | dvs | fernandokts: Why are you recompiling grub?\ |
| 21:42.53 | SkareCrow | and cls uses clear its just im a windows person still trying to get use to this linux stuff |
| 21:42.59 | wols_ | daeos: yes. all of it. ssh + vi basically |
| 21:43.06 | wols_ | daeos: oh, and a root acount :) |
| 21:43.26 | r_marvin | SkareCrow: don't make dos out of linux |
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| 21:43.35 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: you could do it much more efficiently by just setting an alias: alias motd 'cat /etc/motd' |
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| 21:43.52 | daeos | cureless: sorry um setting up mysql im sure i'll be using phpmyadmin |
| 21:44.02 | SkareCrow | thx |
| 21:44.03 | fernandokts | dvs: because I read in a tutorial that I hav to recompile it to get netboot work (./configure --enable-sis900) |
| 21:44.06 | daeos | wols_: of course ... root ^_^ |
| 21:44.27 | Error_X | I'll try the etch installer.. |
| 21:45.02 | daeos | wols_: i like vim =P |
| 21:45.10 | wols_ | eko: try the sarge installer first |
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| 21:45.23 | SkareCrow | is that the command? alias motd 'cat /etc/motd' |
| 21:45.40 | cureless | SkareCrow, what are you trying to do? |
| 21:45.50 | SkareCrow | set an alias |
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| 21:45.56 | fernandokts | wols_: http://www.avantx.com.br/error1.txt |
| 21:46.00 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: yerp |
| 21:46.01 | andres | Hello. |
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| 21:46.25 | SkareCrow | it says 'bash: alias motd: not found' |
| 21:46.34 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: or, uh, alias motd='cat /etc/motd' |
| 21:46.39 | fernandokts | wols_: That's the error I get by typing "./configure" "make" |
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| 21:46.53 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: sorry about the lack of the equal sign |
| 21:46.55 | blafd | how do i go about install qt3? |
| 21:46.57 | wols_ | fernandokts: tried to use apt-get source? |
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| 21:47.11 | SkareCrow | is there a way to make this global? |
| 21:47.16 | dvs | !info libqt3-dev sarge |
| 21:47.21 | solid_liq | SkareCrow: add it to the profile |
| 21:47.21 | dpkg | libqt3-dev: (Qt development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.4-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 136 kB |
| 21:47.24 | r_marvin | SkareCrow: write it in .profile |
| 21:47.26 | cureless | blafd, what do you need qt3 by itself for? |
| 21:47.27 | kingspawn | whats that page that scans your ports and checks things out? |
| 21:47.36 | blafd | qamix |
| 21:47.45 | wols_ | kingspawn: nmap |
| 21:47.47 | solid_liq | kingspawn: page? |
| 21:47.47 | blafd | kamix |
| 21:47.54 | cureless | blafd, so you need the dev files. |
| 21:48.01 | blafd | oki |
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| 21:48.09 | blafd | i think ive already installed them |
| 21:48.09 | kingspawn | solid_liq: hm, yeah, i remember some kind of webpage that checked you out based on your ip |
| 21:48.17 | kingspawn | maybe im just thinking of very old stuff ;) |
| 21:48.29 | solid_liq | kingspawn: yeah there are a few, but why don't you just use nmap |
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| 21:48.52 | solid_liq | kingspawn: nmap -vv -A -P0 ipaddress |
| 21:48.53 | fernandokts | wols_: yes. Actually that (from the error) is from apt-get source grub |
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| 21:49.21 | wols_ | fernandokts: that's bad. what if you don't mess with ./configure options? still same error? |
| 21:49.25 | solid_liq | fernandokts: why don't you first try: apt-get install grub |
| 21:49.27 | daeos | cureless: oh and one more thing, does postfix do smtp? |
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| 21:49.38 | cureless | daeos, that's the point :-) |
| 21:49.42 | wols_ | daeos: mta = smtp server |
| 21:49.47 | daeos | o |
| 21:49.48 | solid_liq | fernandokts: and only build it if you actually need to. Most tutorials tend to be out of date |
| 21:49.48 | daeos | lol |
| 21:49.50 | kingspawn | solid_liq: thanks |
| 21:49.57 | solid_liq | kingspawn: np |
| 21:49.57 | daeos | pop3/imap/smtp ok good |
| 21:50.02 | fernandokts | wol_: that error from the link I sent you is whithout any ./configure options |
| 21:50.24 | wols_ | fernandokts: maybe try a different gcc? |
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| 21:50.50 | wols_ | cause from the look of it it doesn't look like a dependency or such, but internal grub code |
| 21:50.55 | solid_liq | fernandokts: have you ever built software before with autotools? |
| 21:51.23 | fernandokts | solid_liq: No, never |
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| 21:51.39 | solid_liq | fernandokts: then I'd recommend to not start with something as important as grub |
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| 21:52.43 | solid_liq | fernandokts: I haven't heard of anyone needing to compile grub themselves for any reason for several years |
| 21:52.44 | andres | How can I convert img/toc pairs of files created with k3b (clone function) to a standard iso file, or, how to mount them? |
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| 21:53.00 | fernandokts | solid_liq: Do you think is there a way to make grub work with tftp whithout recompiling? |
| 21:53.26 | solid_liq | fernandokts: why does it say you need to recompile it? |
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| 21:54.01 | fernandokts | solid_liq: because when I recompile it, I get nbgrub created in stage2/ |
| 21:54.03 | blafd | WOOOHOO |
| 21:54.11 | blafd | compiling kde things from source |
| 21:54.15 | daeos | cureless: what does the term raod-warriors refer to? |
| 21:54.23 | blafd | with feeling very affraid |
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| 21:54.42 | cureless | daeos, what do you mean? |
| 21:55.07 | August | Could anbody help me with a netcard problem? |
| 21:55.13 | daeos | cureless: that site you gave me: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/#install_packages talks about 'road-warriors" to send mail through the server |
| 21:55.49 | fernandokts | solid_liq: the thing is that I'm trying to make a central boot manager. With the same menu.lst for all machines in the room |
| 21:55.49 | petemc | daeos: people travelling with a laptop, usually |
| 21:55.49 | daeos | cureless: thats just referring to smtp right? |
| 21:55.49 | wols_ | daeos: people who are away from the office,. on the road. but need/want their email and such regardless |
| 21:55.49 | solid_liq | blafd: you're using konstruct I hope? |
| 21:55.49 | daeos | ah ok |
| 21:55.49 | cureless | daeos, I didn't not give you that url. :-) |
| 21:55.49 | daeos | cureless: oh someone did, oh wols_ did |
| 21:55.49 | daeos | i think |
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| 21:55.51 | wols_ | daeos: I gave you that url |
| 21:55.54 | daeos | LOL |
| 21:56.04 | daeos | sorry , break removed my history so i didn't remember |
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| 21:56.17 | fernandokts | solid_liq: So I can choose in the Server wich OS the client machines will boot |
| 21:56.43 | solid_liq | fernandokts: hmm, haven't set that up before, sorry |
| 21:56.59 | fernandokts | that's ok |
| 21:57.00 | solid_liq | fernandokts: but try ./configure --help if you absolutely have to compile it |
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| 21:57.24 | solid_liq | fernandokts: you should always run ./configure --help on ANY and EVERY package you compile, btw |
| 21:57.25 | fernandokts | thanks a lot solid_liq and wols_ |
| 21:57.37 | wols_ | not as if we helped :( |
| 21:57.48 | August | How do i check the netcard? i mean to check if the "works?" (the bios can find it and so can the installer - but it dosent work) |
| 21:57.49 | fernandokts | that's ok |
| 21:57.59 | solid_liq | fernandokts: and don't try to do a lot of optimization; -O1 should be plenty |
| 21:58.20 | fernandokts | I'll try again, so if I get any goos results I'll tell you |
| 21:58.22 | fernandokts | bye |
| 21:58.24 | wols_ | August: ifconfig, ping |
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| 21:58.30 | solid_liq | fernandokts: good luck |
| 21:59.12 | solid_liq | August: ifconfig -a |
| 21:59.30 | August | and that can show me if the netcard works? |
| 21:59.44 | August | the times i have types ipconfig if says the command cant be found |
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| 22:00.11 | solid_liq | August: there is no ipconfig in linux, it's ifconfig in linux |
| 22:00.11 | daeos | i hope 384 MB of ram will run all of this |
| 22:00.36 | solid_liq | daeos: 384 MB of ram will run that and a whole lot more |
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| 22:01.01 | solid_liq | daeos: this isn't windows, so there isn't a ton of ram wasted on unnecessary garbage like a gui |
| 22:01.14 | August | solid_liq Ic ty ;) |
| 22:01.18 | daeos | solid_liq: HAHA good to hear |
| 22:01.22 | solid_liq | daeos: I trust you don't have an X server installed, right? |
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| 22:01.35 | daeos | solid_liq: its installed, but i can turn it off |
| 22:01.35 | wols_ | daeos: I ran it in 64MB fine (including samba, ftp, apache, etc) |
| 22:01.39 | wols_ | so yes it will run fine |
| 22:01.52 | daeos | just need to remember how to turn off x remotly |
| 22:02.29 | solid_liq | daeos: I have bind9, postfix, courier-imap, courier-pop, fetchmail, nfs and squid running on a PIII-550 with 384 megs of ram, and only 96 are used :D |
| 22:02.34 | wols_ | daeos: you just don't install it |
| 22:02.53 | kuki | hello, I have a apache2, php and mysql in my debian and i have a problem when i open the website: You don't have permission to access / on this server. |
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| 22:03.12 | daeos | solid_liq: i need to change my cpu from a 450 to a 550 that i have, p3 also just like yours |
| 22:03.13 | solid_liq | daeos: hit ctrl-alt-backspace to crash out of the x server |
| 22:03.19 | solid_liq | daeos: then uninstall it |
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| 22:03.28 | daeos | .... im remotly logged in |
| 22:03.28 | daeos | sshed in |
| 22:03.35 | solid_liq | daeos: kill it |
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| 22:04.01 | wols_ | daeos: kill -9 X |
| 22:04.02 | wols_ | done |
| 22:04.09 | daeos | it won't kill...says "X: no process killed" |
| 22:04.18 | wols_ | daeos: also look into screen. it's your best buddy from now on |
| 22:04.34 | solid_liq | daeos: no, kill -9 `pidof X` |
| 22:04.44 | daeos | lol |
| 22:04.47 | daeos | need to find pid of x |
| 22:04.57 | solid_liq | yep :) |
| 22:05.01 | wols_ | doh, mea culpa |
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| 22:05.06 | wols_ | killa -9 X of course |
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| 22:06.02 | daeos | .... can't find x, only xmessage 4 times and xscreensaver |
| 22:06.17 | gnufan | kuki: anything in the error log on start up -- what ownerships and permission on the DocumentRoot? |
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| 22:07.08 | daeos | hmmm |
| 22:07.22 | daeos | solid_liq: can't find x at all using TOP |
| 22:07.48 | blafd | what package do you need for qwidget.h? |
| 22:07.52 | blafd | ;p |
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| 22:08.09 | solid_liq | daeos: then I guess it's not running |
| 22:08.25 | wols_ | the qt dev package |
| 22:08.28 | solid_liq | but what I typed: backtick pidof X backtick |
| 22:08.32 | solid_liq | will find the pid for you |
| 22:08.34 | blafd | hmm |
| 22:08.42 | blafd | i swear i just installed that |
| 22:08.58 | wols_ | blafd: and probably need to set the QTDIR env variable |
| 22:09.22 | Ironhand | hello, I'm having trouble with locking on an nfs mounted /home filesystem... chpst (a program that calls flock afaik) returns "unable to lock: somefile: no locks available" for that particular filesystem. other (nfs mounted) filesystems work fine on this system, and other hosts with the same mounted /home work fine too... what could be causing this? |
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| 22:10.39 | kuki | gnufan, the problem is in the permision of .htaccess, you know that permision need it ? |
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| 22:11.42 | daeos | solid_liq: im using 89% of my ram |
| 22:12.11 | wols_ | daeos: you should use more than 90% usually |
| 22:12.33 | wols_ | daeos: linux always uses all ram, there is no free one in an ideal cases. anything that's not needed by programs is cache |
| 22:12.34 | daeos | using that command that someone gave me yesterday..... it says i have 235.793 free |
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| 22:12.43 | daeos | but |
| 22:12.46 | daeos | top says differently |
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| 22:13.32 | andres | How can I convert img/toc pairs of files created with k3b (clone function) to a standard iso file, or, how to mount them? ... bchunk! |
| 22:13.35 | kensai | I never use more than 15% ram |
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| 22:13.42 | solid_liq | daeos: use free -m to find out how much you're actually using |
| 22:13.48 | solid_liq | I missed some messages, my stupid wireless card freaked |
| 22:14.06 | solid_liq | daeos: free -m |
| 22:14.17 | daeos | total 377 , used 337 |
| 22:14.20 | daeos | free 40 |
| 22:14.21 | daeos | :) |
| 22:14.26 | solid_liq | daeos: the second line tells you how much is actually used |
| 22:14.33 | daeos | ah |
| 22:14.41 | wols_ | what is your top memory using task (check with top)? |
| 22:14.41 | daeos | 138 used 238 free |
| 22:14.47 | solid_liq | yep |
| 22:14.50 | nickv111 | How could I get the latest thttpd on debian? |
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| 22:15.02 | solid_liq | apt |
| 22:15.02 | nickv111 | The latest isn't even in unstable, but I'd like to run it on etch |
| 22:15.04 | justin | tarzeau: hi |
| 22:15.10 | solid_liq | !thttpd |
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| 22:15.17 | solid_liq | !httpd |
| 22:15.21 | daeos | how do i sort by memory usage? |
| 22:15.23 | solid_liq | !apache |
| 22:15.27 | wols_ | nickv111: then you need to wait ot compile it yourself |
| 22:15.27 | daeos | !apache2 |
| 22:15.28 | dpkg | apache2 is, like, a virtual package provided by one of the following packages: apache2-mpm-worker, apache2-mpm-prefork, apache2-mpm-perchild. Each package contains the apache2 server compiled with unique options - Read the description for each package and select the one right for you. You should also read the docs, which are in the apache2-doc package. |
| 22:15.28 | solid_liq | daeos: use htop |
| 22:15.34 | tarzeau | justin: what was your url again? |
| 22:15.34 | cat | !tell daeos about tell |
| 22:15.36 | wols_ | daeos: "M" |
| 22:15.55 | solid_liq | !htop |
| 22:16.07 | solid_liq | !nmap |
| 22:16.12 | solid_liq | !free |
| 22:16.16 | daeos | gnome-panel!!!!!! no!!! lol |
| 22:16.19 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
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| 22:16.20 | dpkg | <greg_work> if i want to do nfs stuff, whats the best thing to use? NFS, or is there something better? |
| 22:16.28 | tarzeau | hehe |
| 22:16.29 | solid_liq | man, does dpkg know about any of the good stuff? |
| 22:16.38 | solid_liq | dpkg, you're stupid! |
| 22:16.38 | tarzeau | !good |
| 22:16.42 | daeos | !FTW |
| 22:16.42 | dpkg | well, ftw is wtf backwards |
| 22:16.59 | solid_liq | I thought it was fsck the water! :D |
| 22:17.00 | tarzeau | !gender |
| 22:17.00 | dpkg | I'm female |
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| 22:17.06 | andres | bye bye. |
| 22:17.08 | daeos | !race |
| 22:17.08 | dpkg | from memory, race is an overhead 3D car game for GNU/Linux and Windows, at http://race.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:17.09 | solid_liq | !age |
| 22:17.15 | solid_liq | !creed |
| 22:17.20 | cat | solid_liq: can you please stop with the bot/ |
| 22:17.21 | solid_liq | !religion |
| 22:17.25 | cat | msg the bot solid_liq |
| 22:17.25 | solid_liq | heheh |
| 22:17.28 | daeos | !agl |
| 22:17.32 | daeos | !asl |
| 22:17.32 | dpkg | daeos, American Sign Language isn't very useful on Internet Relay Chat Old enough, Yes please, My place. above sea level |
| 22:17.35 | daeos | ... |
| 22:17.39 | solid_liq | cat: I'm not the only one :D |
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| 22:17.50 | cat | daeos: you two |
| 22:18.02 | nickv111 | Stop trying to stalk the bot |
| 22:18.05 | solid_liq | cat: you're still missing someone |
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| 22:18.11 | daeos | yeah |
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| 22:18.40 | solid_liq | dpkg is clueless |
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| 22:19.34 | daeos | solid_liq: as i said 3.7% of mem is from gnome-panel |
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| 22:20.11 | daeos | i killed gnome and gnome stuff is still running |
| 22:20.12 | daeos | why? |
| 22:20.14 | daeos | lol |
| 22:20.32 | cat | daeos: su passwd and killall gdm |
| 22:20.40 | cat | if you're running the Gnome display manager |
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| 22:21.09 | daeos | no process killed |
| 22:21.25 | solid_liq | daeos: uninstall all that garbage! |
| 22:21.33 | blafd | what abot kwaveview any know of a package for it ? |
| 22:21.42 | daeos | dude....i need it for my admins! |
| 22:21.49 | daeos | i'd rather get rid of kde |
| 22:21.54 | nickv111 | Is there a page on the web anywhere that talks about making the debian/ directory in the source of a project? |
| 22:22.15 | solid_liq | daeos: you don't need the x server for your admins |
| 22:22.28 | daeos | they are winblows users |
| 22:22.32 | daeos | yes they do |
| 22:22.52 | solid_liq | daeos: no they don't; they can use ssh -X for X forwarding instead |
| 22:22.55 | JoshH | why let them be admins then? |
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| 22:22.58 | daeos | .... |
| 22:23.02 | zeusgrs | hi |
| 22:23.13 | daeos | ok i'll explain this then |
| 22:23.15 | zeusgrs | all from greece |
| 22:23.18 | solid_liq | and JoshH has a good point too |
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| 22:23.33 | daeos | they are only using windwos... they are going to be editing my website via FreeNX |
| 22:23.35 | sudo-kill_MsWin | hi e-body |
| 22:23.36 | daeos | we need GDM |
| 22:23.40 | zeusgrs | i need help ... :( |
| 22:23.45 | justin | tarzeau: it hasn't worked in years :-) |
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| 22:23.56 | justin | tarzeau: I just have mail working, no www |
| 22:23.58 | Absolute0 | is there an i686 version of debian? |
| 22:23.58 | solid_liq | zeusgrs: really? You don't like, have a foot in Poland, and an elbow in China? |
| 22:24.05 | cat | zeusgrs: ask |
| 22:24.11 | Absolute0 | i386 is getting to old for me |
| 22:24.15 | solid_liq | daeos: for what? |
| 22:24.30 | Absolute0 | and it works very slow on my system with fancy WM's |
| 22:24.31 | zeusgrs | try to install via driver for graphik card PM800 |
| 22:24.39 | zeusgrs | and say one problrm |
| 22:24.40 | zeusgrs | ERROR: Kernel modules did not compile |
| 22:24.40 | zeusgrs | The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules. |
| 22:24.40 | zeusgrs | Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on |
| 22:24.40 | zeusgrs | what went wrong. |
| 22:24.40 | sudo-kill_MsWin | did somebody knows if the is a Yahoo client whith voice for install on Debain Linux? |
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| 22:24.47 | tarzeau | !DEBAIN |
| 22:24.48 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 22:24.52 | cat | zeusgrs: what kernel do you have? |
| 22:24.58 | solid_liq | daeos: why not use webdav instead? |
| 22:25.00 | zeusgrs | 2.6.12 |
| 22:25.05 | tarzeau | sudo-kill_MsWin: kill only takes numbers for pids |
| 22:25.11 | tarzeau | sudo-kill_MsWin: try killall pr pkill |
| 22:25.13 | daeos | solid_liq: they are all gui users... try teaching them how to make a website in only terminal will really suck |
| 22:25.17 | cat | zeusgrs: try getting the source from the kernel and then you installed the drivers again |
| 22:25.28 | zeusgrs | how? |
| 22:25.37 | daeos | webdav? |
| 22:25.42 | sudo-kill_MsWin | killall -oki ig gona search on google thks |
| 22:25.42 | solid_liq | daeos: I didn't say a terminal |
| 22:25.46 | solid_liq | !webdav |
| 22:25.53 | cat | zeusgrs: wait |
| 22:25.55 | menko | zeusgrs: first check if you already have the module |
| 22:25.57 | solid_liq | man dpkg doesn't know anything |
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| 22:26.12 | zeusgrs | my linux is knoppix 4.0 DVD |
| 22:26.14 | daeos | !stupidbot |
| 22:26.16 | daeos | ... |
| 22:26.16 | solid_liq | daeos: webdav == web distributed authoring and versioning |
| 22:26.17 | zeusgrs | i have source |
| 22:26.22 | solid_liq | daeos: google it |
| 22:26.22 | daeos | ah |
| 22:26.22 | daeos | ok |
| 22:26.25 | daeos | lol duh |
| 22:26.26 | daeos | ok |
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| 22:26.41 | daeos | sounds like it would be faster |
| 22:26.42 | daeos | lol |
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| 22:26.56 | solid_liq | daeos: yep |
| 22:27.04 | zeusgrs | menko: how? |
| 22:27.09 | gnufan | Hehe I'm the first English language result for "Debian Webdav" from Google ;) http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/285 |
| 22:27.16 | solid_liq | daeos: or rsync or nfs or... |
| 22:27.16 | cat | zeusgrs: give me you're kernel name, |
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| 22:27.21 | cat | name and version |
| 22:27.30 | daeos | solid_liq: cause when they use nx ..... its rather laggy |
| 22:27.31 | solid_liq | daeos: there's absolutely no reason for them to do the editing on that machine |
| 22:27.38 | jph | g'day! |
| 22:27.52 | unstable | !start a distro war |
| 22:27.52 | dpkg | DSL rox0rz! |
| 22:28.02 | daeos | LOL |
| 22:28.03 | zeusgrs | cat:linux-2.6.12 |
| 22:28.06 | solid_liq | daeos: they can edit on their machines with whatever windows garbage they like, then just ship the files over |
| 22:28.09 | Stevie | svn rules |
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| 22:28.22 | daeos | they didn't like that idea, that was what we did before |
| 22:28.22 | solid_liq | USE FREEBSD!! WOOT WOOT |
| 22:28.28 | Stevie | !start a distro war |
| 22:28.28 | dpkg | Kubuntu owns! |
| 22:28.31 | Stevie | wait |
| 22:28.34 | Stevie | kubuntu? |
| 22:28.41 | jph | 1337 script == lame language :P |
| 22:28.50 | solid_liq | sUse uber alles |
| 22:28.51 | Stevie | hah |
| 22:28.53 | cat | !start a dustri war |
| 22:28.53 | Stevie | a kde ubuntu |
| 22:28.59 | jph | rofl! suse... |
| 22:29.00 | cat | !start a distro war |
| 22:29.00 | dpkg | Progeny owns! |
| 22:29.02 | solid_liq | slackware's teh bestest man |
| 22:29.04 | Stevie | !stsart an old hardware war |
| 22:29.07 | Stevie | !start an old hardware war |
| 22:29.08 | dpkg | You kids have it EASY! When I was your age I had to write first-person shooters on a TRS-80 Model I! |
| 22:29.11 | gnufan | kuki: I assume readable by apache user (www-data) |
| 22:29.19 | Stevie | !start a nuclear war |
| 22:29.19 | dpkg | SHALL WE PLAY A GAME? |
| 22:29.28 | solid_liq | my TRS-80 will own your Commodore 64!!! |
| 22:29.33 | chealer9 | Stevie: please stop it |
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| 22:29.59 | solid_liq | oh yeah, well my amiga will beat your coleco computer over the head!!! |
| 22:30.02 | gnufan | Hey dpkg we had to play first person shooters on TRS-80s |
| 22:30.05 | blafd | some get to work |
| 22:30.07 | sudo-killall_MsW | _ |
| 22:30.11 | blafd | and make a package for kwaveview |
| 22:30.24 | blafd | and show thoses punks at suse how make files are done |
| 22:30.30 | blafd | ;p |
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| 22:31.07 | solid_liq | w00t |
| 22:31.24 | jsn | Hello. I'm running ppc/sid, and I'm having trouble upgrading x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-5_all.deb, any ideas? |
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| 22:32.15 | davi | How to be able to heard "Microsoft ASF" sound files ? |
| 22:32.33 | davi | Any site where download codecs ? |
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| 22:32.53 | ekkikrist | davi: That's non-free software, you're on your own. |
| 22:33.09 | menko | davi: type /msg dpkg w32codecs |
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| 22:33.18 | davi | ekkikrist, I know. Thanks menko |
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| 22:34.07 | menko | or add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main to your sources.list. Change unstable to the one you're running I guess |
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| 22:34.19 | killall_MsWin | w32codes = can i play wmv files whith taht? |
| 22:34.31 | menko | killall_MsWin: yup |
| 22:34.41 | killall_MsWin | ok thks |
| 22:34.49 | killall_MsWin | im new on Linux |
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| 22:34.59 | killall_MsWin | can i use apt-get instal w32codecs |
| 22:35.08 | valdyn | killall_MsWin: wmv is a container, not a movie format, you can play some without w32codecs, you cannot play some even with w32codecs |
| 22:35.12 | Absolute0 | is there an i686 version of debian? |
| 22:35.19 | menko | killall_MsWin: which debian are you running? stable, unstable, testing? |
| 22:35.35 | killall_MsWin | MEPIS 3.43. = debian etch |
| 22:35.48 | wols_ | mepis != debian |
| 22:35.55 | killall_MsWin | yeap |
| 22:36.07 | wols_ | !not debian |
| 22:36.08 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 22:36.09 | menko | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:36.39 | wols_ | Absolute0: there is none, at least not whzat you mean. t's not really needed either |
| 22:36.42 | daeos | solid_liq: we did that before where they would ship the files to me, but i guess that would make it easier..so then how can i uninstall all of x ? |
| 22:36.52 | killall_MsWin | yes i already have thth repositorie on my synaptic |
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| 22:37.18 | menko | killall_MsWin: ok then you should just be able to search for w32codecs and install, or apt-get install w32codecs |
| 22:37.20 | daeos | what was the name of that package installer/uninstaller? |
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| 22:37.33 | daeos | was a 1 word program |
| 22:37.38 | killall_MsWin | let me chek right now! |
| 22:37.51 | nvz | daeos: aptitude? synaptic?.. there are dozen |
| 22:38.04 | lamp_ | i'm configuring my wlan with ndiswrapper but i get this error message at startup, Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0. |
| 22:38.06 | menko | daeos: there's dpkg, apt-get, synaptic, aptitude etc |
| 22:38.08 | daeos | aptitude |
| 22:38.29 | E0x | somebody have problem with urxvt and font loading? |
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| 22:38.53 | Absolute0 | wols_: why is it no needed? |
| 22:39.00 | Absolute0 | *not |
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| 22:39.06 | beuno | anyone have any idea how to get a bash script to wait for a tar command to finish compressing? its looping through dirs and I want it to wait for one dir to finish compressing before moving on to the next code is in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10869 |
| 22:39.13 | wols_ | cause the impact is not noticeable |
| 22:39.16 | wols_ | !rice |
| 22:39.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, rice is good for you |
| 22:39.24 | wols_ | !gentoo |
| 22:39.25 | dpkg | hmm... gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 22:40.27 | killall_MsWin | him Reading package lists... Done |
| 22:40.28 | killall_MsWin | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 22:40.28 | killall_MsWin | Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 22:40.28 | killall_MsWin | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 22:40.28 | killall_MsWin | is only available from another source |
| 22:40.28 | killall_MsWin | E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate |
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| 22:41.35 | daeos | wols_: what is the quickest way to remove x, kdm and gdm ? |
| 22:41.41 | menko | killall_MsWin: if you haven't run it, you neeed to run apt-get update |
| 22:41.46 | jsn | No one else is having trouble upgrading to x11-common_6.9.0 ? |
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| 22:42.11 | Arnald | I cannot get either rxvt -C or aterm -C to display system console messages - is this really supposed to work? I've tried setting mode 644 on /dev/[x]console but to no avail |
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| 22:42.52 | menko | killall_MsWin: if you haven't run it, you neeed to run apt-get update |
| 22:42.53 | wols_ | daeos: removing the x server I guess |
| 22:43.07 | daeos | wols_: i just asked "how" |
| 22:43.11 | killall_MsWin | # apt-get install w32codecs |
| 22:43.11 | killall_MsWin | Reading package lists... Done |
| 22:43.11 | killall_MsWin | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 22:43.11 | killall_MsWin | Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 22:43.11 | killall_MsWin | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
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| 22:43.28 | daeos | wols_: ..... not sure how im going to remove all of it at one time |
| 22:43.31 | menko | lol |
| 22:43.35 | erhanr | poor |
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| 22:43.53 | wols_ | daeos: apt-get remove |
| 22:43.55 | erhanr | killall_MsWin: try paste |
| 22:43.59 | wols_ | killall_MsWin: go away |
| 22:44.02 | menko | killall_MsWin: don't paste into the channel |
| 22:44.02 | erhanr | not here |
| 22:44.03 | wols_ | !mepis |
| 22:44.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, mepis is a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system that uses KDE and includes NVIDIA proprietary 3D driver. See http://www.mepis.org and/or visit #mepis and ask me about <Based On Debian> |
| 22:44.21 | wols_ | killall_MsWin: we're NOT mepis support |
| 22:44.25 | killall_MsWin | ok sorry i new here! |
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| 22:44.34 | erhanr | ! paste |
| 22:44.34 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 22:44.44 | killall_MsWin | i run apt-get update |
| 22:44.51 | killall_MsWin | then apt-get upgrade |
| 22:45.04 | killall_MsWin | then apt-get install win32codecs |
| 22:45.11 | wols_ | killall_MsWin: you run mepis. so go away |
| 22:45.11 | killall_MsWin | and = npthing |
| 22:45.19 | pingouin | :) |
| 22:45.22 | killall_MsWin | why |
| 22:45.28 | killall_MsWin | mepis = Debian |
| 22:45.33 | wols_ | cause we do not support mepis |
| 22:45.39 | erhanr | killall_MsWin: are you on debian or mepis right now ? |
| 22:45.43 | wols_ | !based on debian |
| 22:45.43 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 22:45.51 | wols_ | erhanr: he said mepis himself |
| 22:46.09 | killall_MsWin | is I nnew on Linux= i istall mepis but mep[is is based on debian etch |
| 22:46.20 | pingouin | cruel world |
| 22:46.23 | erhanr | hmm |
| 22:46.33 | erhanr | i thought he uses 2 distro |
| 22:46.38 | pipeline | killall_MsWin: This is, nevertheless, #debian :P |
| 22:46.39 | kensai | damn could not find which is the plugin file in java 1.6.0 beta |
| 22:46.48 | kensai | I belive it does not have one |
| 22:46.56 | kuribas | Hi, how can I install dutch hyphenation patterns for TeX? It worked for previous versions, but everytime I upgrade tetex I have to set them up again... |
| 22:47.01 | pipeline | kensai: That would not be surprising. |
| 22:47.19 | kensai | falling back to java 1.5 |
| 22:47.34 | kensai | pipeline, why it has happened before? |
| 22:48.00 | kuribas | It seems the system for hyphenation patterns changes everytime, and they don't keep the configuration with an upgrade. |
| 22:48.07 | pipeline | kensai: It's a beta. What conceivable use would a beta of the browser plugin be? :P |
| 22:48.33 | daeos | and it all comes down!!!! |
| 22:48.38 | kensai | pipeline, you got a point |
| 22:48.42 | daeos | removing X GDM and KDE!! |
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| 22:49.13 | Absolute0 | are there any advantages of debain over archlinux? |
| 22:49.26 | pipeline | Absolute0: Too many to enumerate here. Why don't you ask the arch linux folks? |
| 22:49.32 | Absolute0 | lol |
| 22:49.40 | Absolute0 | i dont think they will admit :p |
| 22:49.49 | pipeline | Absolute0: You won't ever say that again in here, if you know what's good for you. |
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| 22:49.57 | Absolute0 | ok sorry |
| 22:49.58 | Absolute0 | =) |
| 22:50.05 | killall_MsWin | uname -a |
| 22:50.07 | wols_ | daeos: why remove them? you could still let them run via remote X no? |
| 22:50.21 | daeos | wols_: eating too much memory |
| 22:50.22 | erhanr | boi |
| 22:50.28 | pipeline | Absolute0: "lol" and "u" and other bullshit are frowned upon in a channel with 600 people |
| 22:50.30 | killall_MsWin | Linux Mepis =2.6.15-1-586tsc #2 PREEMPT Sun Feb 12 15:29:08 EST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 22:50.43 | daeos | wols_: i'll reinstall it later if i need it |
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| 22:51.02 | Absolute0 | phrakture Absolute0: you're not going to get a proper answer to that in a distro specific channel |
| 22:51.12 | erhanr | killall_MsWin .man you can try get in #mepis |
| 22:51.43 | jph | quit |
| 22:51.53 | killall_MsWin | ok thaks baey |
| 22:51.56 | erhanr | killall_MsWin: there they can guide you better |
| 22:52.00 | erhanr | yes |
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| 22:53.49 | RungeKutta | Hi. I just did an "apt-get update" on a testing machine and I got the following error: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/source/Sources.bz2 MD5Sum mismatch |
| 22:54.11 | valdyn | RungeKutta: wait a while and try again |
| 22:54.19 | RungeKutta | valdyn: hmm? |
| 22:54.22 | RungeKutta | aah ok |
| 22:54.32 | RungeKutta | maybe it's updating the package list or something? |
| 22:54.41 | zeusgrs | how to find CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG |
| 22:54.43 | valdyn | RungeKutta: right |
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| 22:54.52 | RungeKutta | valdyn: aah ok, makes sense, thanks for the help |
| 22:54.52 | zeusgrs | no inside to .config? |
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| 22:55.55 | Arnald | hmm, seems like rxvt/aterm -C needs to be run as root, regardless of /dev/[x]console permissions |
| 22:56.03 | erhanr | ! CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG |
| 22:56.08 | Arnald | what's that all about? |
| 22:56.37 | zeusgrs | try to install Via PM800 Graphic Card in Knoppix 4.0 DVD |
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| 23:00.34 | zeusgrs | erhanr: |
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| 23:00.48 | archpollux | hi |
| 23:00.48 | erhanr | yup ? |
| 23:01.31 | archpollux | i have compiled POSIX ACL support for reiserfs in the kernel, i just created a new fs and setfacl resports: Operation not supported |
| 23:02.00 | micket | Hi guys, how can i check what modules X has loaded? I seem to have a problem getting conky to use double buffers since it requiers Xdbe |
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| 23:02.26 | daeos | someone remind me how to reboot via command line |
| 23:02.42 | archpollux | daeos: reboot !? |
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| 23:03.19 | daeos | lol ok |
| 23:03.30 | archpollux | micket: less /var/log/Xorg.log.0 |
| 23:03.36 | micket | thanks! |
| 23:03.59 | archpollux | micket: sorry, /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 23:04.25 | boguh | im running debian on an thinkpad t41p, but it seems like the fan is always running. under windows its not running all the time |
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| 23:05.19 | clem_yeats | !topic |
| 23:05.44 | clem_yeats | oh... do I have to leave and join again to read the topic ? |
| 23:05.51 | menko | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.12 | clem_yeats | thanks |
| 23:06.16 | menko | k |
| 23:06.48 | micket | boguh; That's a centrino, right? |
| 23:07.15 | boguh | it is |
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| 23:07.39 | kensai | I can't seem to find java plugin in java 1.5 either installed from debian unoficial restricted |
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| 23:08.41 | micket | boguh, for me to get that stuff working properly i had to upgrade to kernel 2.6.* as well as installing a few modules |
| 23:08.53 | thefish_ | ok |
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| 23:09.27 | cindy | printer question |
| 23:09.27 | boguh | micket kernel is 2.6.*, but which modules? |
| 23:09.32 | micket | boguh, i'm using speedstep-centrino and powernowd |
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| 23:09.56 | boguh | micket me too |
| 23:10.02 | cindy | I got my printer working - i can print a office doc and email but i can not print form a browser |
| 23:10.22 | micket | ah.. uhm.. |
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| 23:10.34 | daeos | what is the command to restart ? |
| 23:10.40 | daeos | or reboot how ever you want to say it |
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| 23:10.50 | TANATHOS | daeos: shutoown -r 0 |
| 23:10.54 | TANATHOS | daeos: shutdown -r 0 |
| 23:11.03 | daeos | TANATHOS: thanks |
| 23:11.10 | micket | daeos, i had to be root to be able to use reboot |
| 23:11.12 | micket | try that |
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| 23:11.27 | erhanr | strange his 2nd same question |
| 23:11.43 | TANATHOS | :)) |
| 23:11.50 | TANATHOS | !htb tools |
| 23:12.06 | micket | well he probably tried as a user like i did at first, and then i couldn't find the command |
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| 23:12.23 | TANATHOS | !tell me about htb tools |
| 23:12.27 | erhanr | maybe |
| 23:12.32 | TANATHOS | hmm |
| 23:12.37 | abrotman | !tell TANATHOS about msg the bot |
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| 23:14.33 | TANATHOS | abrotman : yeah tnx |
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| 23:15.07 | erhanr | !bot |
| 23:15.08 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
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| 23:15.16 | Spudchat | hi, im trying to install the nvidia drivers, should i select nv or should there be a new driver when i revonfigure xserver-xfree86 ? |
| 23:15.19 | abrotman | !tell surrealize about root |
| 23:15.31 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 23:15.32 | dpkg | i heard nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 23:15.38 | erhanr | !htb tools |
| 23:15.43 | Spudchat | yeah im reading that, but i only see nv still |
| 23:15.43 | dannyp | Spudchat: you have a choice of driver, you know |
| 23:15.46 | dannyp | Spudchat: nv or nvidia |
| 23:15.48 | micket | boguh; if you are still here, try cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors |
| 23:15.48 | Spudchat | yeah? |
| 23:15.51 | abrotman | Spudchat: then it didn't work |
| 23:15.54 | TANATHOS | erhanr there is no help about htb tools |
| 23:15.56 | Spudchat | hmm ok thanks |
| 23:15.59 | Spudchat | ill try again |
| 23:16.01 | erhanr | :) yea |
| 23:16.05 | dannyp | Spudchat: they're different, you need to pick which you want |
| 23:16.22 | Spudchat | well i tried nv, and glxgears was still very low |
| 23:16.38 | Spudchat | so i thought id try nvidia to see if it is any faster |
| 23:16.40 | dannyp | Spudchat: nv is free and doesn't exploit the chipset as well (but nvidia is throwing programmers behind it to get it better, however, there are NDA issues at hand) |
| 23:16.43 | dannyp | ah, yes |
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| 23:16.49 | dannyp | if you want 3D acceleration, you want nvidia |
| 23:16.57 | Spudchat | ok thanks, thats what im looking for |
| 23:17.04 | Spudchat | i see it now :) wish me luck |
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| 23:20.49 | br1 | Hi. I'm trying to install sarge in my laptop through a mirror in my desktop. The mirror is the contents of the first sarge dvd. However, the installation asks for files that aren't there. Why is that? |
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| 23:23.25 | SonnyBurnett | hi, I have my /usr in a logical volume, how can I umount it? should I exit from the X ? |
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| 23:24.08 | deejoe_ | SonnyBurnett: you'll probably want to go to single-user mode, shutting down every, or just about every, service |
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| 23:24.17 | roby | I just installed one of the march releases of etch, removed my cd-rom (needed it in another machine), tried to install x-window-system-core and apt keeps asking for the etch CD.... why? and how can i just install the packages off net without CD? |
| 23:24.48 | abrotman | roby: use http sources |
| 23:24.51 | SonnyBurnett | deejoe: my X stars when I boot, how can I close it and go to the simple console? |
| 23:25.20 | deejoe_ | SonnyBurnett: go to a virtual terminal with Ctrl-Alt-Fn (for n=1..6) |
| 23:25.23 | wols_ | ctrl+alt+f1 |
| 23:25.27 | roby | abrotman: ah, you are right, the cdrom is listed in sources.list |
| 23:25.33 | roby | abrotman: thanks |
| 23:25.42 | wols_ | login as root, and enter /bin/init.d/kdm stop" |
| 23:25.47 | SonnyBurnett | ok let me try |
| 23:25.48 | wols_ | or xdm or gdm, depending what displaymanager |
| 23:26.04 | erhanr | or wdm |
| 23:26.33 | Spudchat | got it guys :D |
| 23:26.39 | Spudchat | thanks a bunch |
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| 23:28.35 | GoAuLd | isnt there a service's start-stoper graphical app there? |
| 23:28.53 | wols_ | ksysvinit I think |
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| 23:30.21 | GoAuLd | thats for config issues |
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| 23:30.52 | GoAuLd | no matter |
| 23:31.15 | likeafox | I did apt-get install samba-doc, now what dir did it go to? |
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| 23:31.44 | Sevidul | type locate samba-doc |
| 23:32.01 | micket | He'll need to run updatedb as root first, no? |
| 23:32.07 | micket | at least if he just installed it |
| 23:32.18 | likeafox | I just did, yes. It says no such directory |
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| 23:32.42 | micket | both updatedb and locate? |
| 23:32.53 | likeafox | It's working on updateb atm |
| 23:33.08 | petemc | it'll be in /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/ , more than likely |
| 23:33.13 | petemc | dpkg -L samba-doc |
| 23:33.13 | dpkg | ii samba-doc 2.6-3.1 petemc's private porn collection |
| 23:33.35 | Elly | hey guys |
| 23:33.41 | Elly | I only have CDs 1 and 2, how do I install sshd? |
| 23:33.48 | tarzeau | apt-get install ssh |
| 23:33.59 | tarzeau | Elly: use internet |
| 23:34.04 | Ronin | Elly: you have intenet access on the box? |
| 23:34.10 | Elly | no |
| 23:34.17 | Elly | ah, cd 2 |
| 23:34.30 | likeafox | It is there, petemc, thanks. |
| 23:34.57 | micket | sshd for a computer with no internet access? |
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| 23:35.09 | Ronin | micket: perhaps local lan only? |
| 23:35.28 | micket | ah, yeah |
| 23:35.33 | tarzeau | no intenet? |
| 23:36.22 | Ronin | maybe :) |
| 23:37.22 | micket | ack, since noone ever replies in #conky, perhaps any of you could help me out. Conky simply won't use double_buffer. All the places i can find tells me to add Load "dbe" in xorg.conf. But i already got it, and as far as i can tell from the log, it loads properly. |
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| 23:37.40 | kuki | Because me not apache2 charges my index.php of postnuke and if that charges the. html? |
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| 23:38.18 | Ronin | kuki: pardon? |
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| 23:39.30 | SonnyBurnett | hi how can I umount my /usr LV ? |
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| 23:40.13 | m1ke_l | go to init level 1 |
| 23:40.13 | kuki | why can't i load in apache 2 my index.php if me directoryindex is index.php? |
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| 23:41.35 | br1 | I'm getting "no partitionable media found" while installing sarge. In a previous attempt it worked, so I suspect my partitions are corrupt. How can I fix this? |
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| 23:41.51 | _Cerebral_ | !calc (8*9) |
| 23:41.57 | SonnyBurnett | m1ke_l, I entered in sigle mode... but it says that is busy |
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| 23:43.12 | kuki | Ronin, you can help me |
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| 23:44.07 | loggygreg | SonnyBurnett: lsof /usr |
| 23:44.13 | mfrisch | Hello DEBIAN! |
| 23:44.45 | jason^ | !calc (6*4) |
| 23:44.49 | jason^ | !exec |
| 23:44.51 | jason^ | :-/ |
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| 23:44.54 | SonnyBurnett | loggygreg, excuse me? |
| 23:45.19 | zirikili | hi. I am trying to upgrade from stable to testing and I get some problems with gcj-common packages: "403 Forbidden". the same error when I change my source-list. what should I do? |
| 23:45.53 | micket | How can i check which devices my mouse and touchpad are? |
| 23:45.56 | chealer9 | zirikili: when does that happen? |
| 23:46.10 | chealer9 | micket: try # mdetect |
| 23:46.15 | zirikili | chealer9: when I run apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:46.18 | Ronin | ok what was jason^ expecting to happen doig that command? |
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| 23:46.40 | kensai | I almost hit myself in the head trying to install java plugin the old way and now there is a package that does this for you. lol |
| 23:47.04 | loggygreg | SonnyBurnett: type 'lsof /usr' in a terminal to know which application use the /usr directory |
| 23:47.30 | chealer9 | zirikili: there is no gcj-common in testing |
| 23:47.53 | zirikili | chealer9: what should I do to remove it? |
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| 23:48.28 | chealer9 | zirikili: you have one? because there's none in stable neither |
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| 23:49.03 | kuki | why can't i load in apache 2 my index.php if me directoryindex is index.php? |
| 23:49.03 | mfrisch | I am trying to use a script-fu in Gimp its shaded, I forget how to use it does anyone know how to fix it? |
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| 23:50.41 | zirikili | I dont have it. well, I have just installed debian stable on a clean HD. after that, I added "contrib non-free" to sources.list line. and then I ran dist-upgrde. now I get that error when dist-upgrade the system |
| 23:51.18 | chealer9 | zirikili: can you paste the error? |
| 23:52.01 | Elly | okay |
| 23:52.20 | Elly | I have my debian box up |
| 23:52.22 | Elly | and I'm sshed in |
| 23:52.24 | zirikili | chealer9: sure. there is no mouse here but I can type it |
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| 23:52.32 | Elly | first, how do I get it to bring up eth0 and dhclient when it boots? |
| 23:52.49 | m1ke_l | etc/nework/interfaces |
| 23:53.02 | chealer9 | zirikili: perhaps you want to use bash redirection? $ command > file |
| 23:53.03 | kn0t | hello, this is a bit off topic, but |
| 23:53.04 | *** join/#debian malex (n=malex@pdpc/supporter/student/malex) |
| 23:53.32 | Elly | and how do I add an apt internet mirror? right now it's only set up for CD |
| 23:53.40 | Ronin | Elly: apt-setup |
| 23:53.46 | kn0t | does anyone know how to export OpenOffice Base data (the one in the tables) to OOCalc, for example? Or to another database such as MySQL? |
| 23:53.47 | zirikili | Err: http://ftp.debian.org testing/main libgcj-common 1:4.0.5-5j2 403 Forbidden |
| 23:54.08 | kensai | klogd is the same as sysklogd? so I can remove klogd from boot and keep sysklogd? |
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| 23:54.34 | zirikili | chealer9: how do I show you the file? |
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| 23:55.03 | malex | Hi. I restarted x.org today and found out that something got broken in the evdev as my usb mouse and keyboard cannot work concurrently anymore. Does anybody have some hints how to work around this? |
| 23:55.28 | erhanr | paste |
| 23:55.32 | erhanr | !paste |
| 23:55.32 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 23:58.05 | cheal | zirikili: sorry, my connection skipped after you sent the error |
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| 23:58.56 | cheal | zirikili: does the same error happen if you try # apt-get -d install libgcj-common; ? |
