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| 00:00.47 | levander | Somebody can tell me why I can copy all files from a samba share to a local disk, unless I download the file on the Windows machine with Firefox 1.5 and then try to copy it? |
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| 00:01.24 | ecdemo | levander: where's the debian part in any of that? :) |
| 00:01.43 | levander | the samba client i'm trying to copy to is debian... |
| 00:01.45 | wols_ | your shares have the wrong (linux) permisions on the files |
| 00:01.47 | EdibleText | levander, was that first 'can' ment to be a 'cant' |
| 00:01.55 | levander | wols_: they're all 777 |
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| 00:02.05 | zoldar | hi, I have problem with dsp device. Initially it has perms set to 660 wisth uid/gid set to root/sound. In such case I'm not able to access it as a normal user. Setting perms to 666 resolves this... is there some other, more permanent solution for that ? |
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| 00:02.16 | levander | EdibleText: no, the first is can, the second (after downloading w FF) is can't |
| 00:02.18 | ecdemo | try the samba client on another os and see if it's the same result... if so, it's not specifically debian related |
| 00:02.33 | wols_ | zoldar: add your user(s) to the group audio |
| 00:02.37 | wols_ | setting it 666 is wrong |
| 00:02.53 | levander | ecdemo: umm, you know it could be debian configuration related... |
| 00:02.56 | zoldar | uh, ok |
| 00:03.05 | Hunterkll | Kay, stupid question here |
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| 00:03.18 | Hunterkll | Really, seriously braindead, but how do I mount FAT32 so normal users can write to it? |
| 00:03.20 | zoldar | wols_: that's why i'm asking for right solution |
| 00:03.27 | zoldar | thanks |
| 00:03.32 | EdibleText | levander, what about samba permissions and stuff. does the user you are conneting to the share as have access? |
| 00:03.42 | EdibleText | connecting* |
| 00:03.48 | ecdemo | zoldar: add yourself to the group that owns the file |
| 00:03.54 | wols_ | !umask |
| 00:03.54 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, umask is 'man 2 umask', or there is no manpage for umask, or the apt-get install manpages-dev to install the manpage for umask |
| 00:03.56 | levander | EdibleText: i can copy all files from that share, unless I've just downloaded the file with FF 1.5... |
| 00:04.19 | wols_ | Hunterkll: you set it when mounting. man mount tells you more (setting umask that is) |
| 00:04.21 | EdibleText | levander, can? |
| 00:04.35 | Hunterkll | wols_: I'm digging through the man page now, thanks for telling me what opt it is |
| 00:04.36 | EdibleText | !confuse me |
| 00:04.36 | dpkg | Yes, who is my mushroom tomorrow, edibletext? pants of the people's republic of tahiti with extra cream |
| 00:04.46 | Hunterkll | umask=066 should work? |
| 00:04.48 | levander | EdibleText: *can*, unless the file has just been downloaded on the Windows machine with FF 1.5 |
| 00:04.58 | wols_ | Hunterkll: you can also look into gid/uid |
| 00:05.08 | Hunterkll | heh |
| 00:05.55 | ecdemo | ever bother to find out what the status of the file is after downloading with firefox? |
| 00:06.14 | jbroome | !tell |lostbyte| about away |
| 00:06.31 | ecdemo | maybe that alone would answer the why question |
| 00:06.56 | |lostbyte| | jbroome: :) sure ! |
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| 00:07.47 | levander | EdibleText: new information, files other than .zip files are copying fine.. |
| 00:07.56 | EdibleText | levander, so, from windows, you _can_ copy files from the samba share to windows local disk? |
| 00:08.08 | levander | EdibleText: even if they've just been downloaded with FF 1.5 |
| 00:08.20 | levander | EdibleText: the XP box is the samba server, the debian box is the debian client |
| 00:08.37 | EdibleText | thats new |
| 00:08.50 | EdibleText | or perhaps ive been away too long |
| 00:09.22 | levander | EdibleText: there's a samba client (smbfs) for linux, you just connect to an XP samba server like any other share |
| 00:09.41 | levander | EdibleText: it's not actually samba on XP, it's regular windows networking |
| 00:09.54 | EdibleText | levander, ok.. just curious use of samba server ;) |
| 00:10.06 | levander | EdibleText: yeah, i wasn't being explicit... |
| 00:10.09 | EdibleText | levander, my unglish is coming back to me now :) |
| 00:10.56 | levander | EdibleText: no, i was using the terminology incorrectly. It's not actually a samba server on the XP machine. It's just a regular XP file server, that you can connect to with a samba client running on linux |
| 00:11.07 | EdibleText | so you are connecting to XP file server with smbfs and that works fine |
| 00:11.20 | levander | EdibleText: almost works fine for me |
| 00:11.35 | EdibleText | what are you doing next that breaks? |
| 00:11.41 | zoldar | one more question - anybody had problems with sound playback in videos on video.google ? |
| 00:12.01 | levander | EdibleText: I can copy files from the XP machine to the linux (smb client) machine |
| 00:12.27 | levander | EdibleText: however, if it's a zip file that I've just downloaded with Firefox 1.5 on the XP machine, I can't copy it to the Linux machine |
| 00:12.44 | levander | EdibleText: jpg's I download with FF 1.5, copy just fine to the Linux machine |
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| 00:14.01 | EdibleText | levander, what user are you connecting to the XP box as (from linux) and is that same user downloading stuff with FF |
| 00:14.27 | eeyore- | levander: a file is a file, why should it matter that it's a zip file. and, why should it matter that it's a zip file downloaded with firefox? maybe the file was considered 'in use'? try quitting firefox |
| 00:14.59 | EdibleText | levander, dont know much about NTFS but there may be permission/ownership issues on the XP side |
| 00:14.59 | levander | EdibleText: it's a Window's user downloading stuff on the XP machine, it's a linux user trying to copy the file to a local disk |
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| 00:15.07 | EdibleText | levander, WHAT USER! is it the same user |
| 00:15.14 | levander | eeyore-: i've tried quitting FF. I have no idea why the gifs i just tested worked fine |
| 00:15.26 | eeyore- | levander: by default firefox downloads the file to the desktop folder right? |
| 00:15.44 | levander | EdibleText: no, it's different users. The users are on two different machines. Although, it is me operating as both users on the two different machines. |
| 00:15.51 | eeyore- | levander: so, when you connect via the samba client, do you go into the c:\documents and settings\<username>\Desktop ? |
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| 00:16.08 | levander | eeyore-: it downloads it to My Documents\ the way i have it configured |
| 00:16.27 | eeyore- | levander: so what exactly is the problem? :-) |
| 00:16.38 | levander | E:\Documents and Settings\<user name>\My Documents |
| 00:16.41 | EdibleText | levander, the humans involved are not important.. the creditals and permissions on the computers are |
| 00:17.06 | eeyore- | EdibleText: lighten up. i think we can assume he supplies the proper username and password |
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| 00:17.19 | levander | eeyore-: using my debian box, i can copy files fine from a samba share, unless the file is a zip file that has just been downloaded on the samba server with FF 1.5. |
| 00:17.20 | EdibleText | eeyore-, he just said the users are different |
| 00:17.51 | levander | EdibleText: well, as I explained, it's two different machines, so the users have to be different, there's no domain server or anything i'm connecting to |
| 00:17.59 | eeyore- | levander: right, that's what you typed before. i have that in my scrollback :-) what i don't quite understand is how you went about copying it. gui? smbclient? command line? cp? what? |
| 00:18.10 | EdibleText | eeyore-, the username password may be proper.. but that doesnt give suzieq access to johnnyb's stuff |
| 00:18.13 | levander | eeyore-: cli, using 'cp' |
| 00:18.32 | eeyore- | levander: ok, so that assumes you mounted the share. now, how did you mount the shares? |
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| 00:18.36 | levander | EdibleText: the files on the share all have 777 permissions |
| 00:18.47 | levander | eeyore-: 'mount -t smbfs -a' |
| 00:18.50 | EdibleText | levander, 777 on an XP box..? |
| 00:19.05 | levander | EdibleText: no, that's how they look on the linux machine |
| 00:19.43 | eeyore- | levander: uh ...... that assumes you have entries in /etc/fstab. so, automatically, i would want to see your fstab entries for which you have smbfs type :-) |
| 00:19.45 | levander | what's interesting, is that even if I change the name to have a different extension than .zip, the file still won't copy |
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| 00:20.03 | levander | eeyore-: yeah, i have the entries in fstab, sec |
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| 00:20.06 | neotheone | hi |
| 00:20.18 | neotheone | can anyone advise me a ftpd please? |
| 00:20.18 | levander | //blink/Documents$ /mnt/documentssmbfscredentials=/root/.smbcredentials,fmask=777,dmask=77700 |
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| 00:20.37 | eeyore- | levander: give up on the idea that it's something to do with zip file :-) i *don't* think it's the problem |
| 00:20.43 | levander | neotheone: i use sshd for an ftp server to get sftp |
| 00:20.58 | kimo_ | was there someway, apt-get dis-upgrade, would actually download many files in parallel ? |
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| 00:21.03 | levander | eeyore-: but, when i download gif files, they copy over fine |
| 00:21.06 | neotheone | i use sftp too, but it seems like its a little bit slow... |
| 00:21.07 | eeyore- | levander: show me /root/.smbcredentials, mask out the passwords if you wish |
| 00:21.15 | EdibleText | levander, what user are you logging into XP with.. |
| 00:21.15 | neotheone | and instable |
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| 00:21.34 | levander | username=guest |
| 00:21.34 | levander | password= |
| 00:21.39 | levander | no password |
| 00:21.43 | EdibleText | no. |
| 00:21.49 | eeyore- | levander: guest? unlikely guest can access private files |
| 00:22.07 | levander | eye69: how are the files private? |
| 00:22.14 | eeyore- | levander: either download *all* files to *outside* of "My Documents", *or*, mount the shares with username=administrator |
| 00:22.17 | EdibleText | levander, NTFS permission/owernship! |
| 00:22.27 | eeyore- | levander: files in "My Documents" are private |
| 00:22.37 | EdibleText | levander, to the user downloading them |
| 00:22.37 | eeyore- | levander: regardless of what linux shows you (777, or what) |
| 00:22.37 | js_ | n1 owernship |
| 00:22.45 | levander | eeyore-: all the other files i've tested copying over are in "My Documents" also |
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| 00:23.00 | eeyore- | levander: regardless, i don't *like* username=gueset |
| 00:23.07 | kimo_ | Hi, was there someway, apt-get dist-upgrade, would actually download many files in parallel ? |
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| 00:23.14 | ryushe | just compiled 2.6.16 kernel with IDE and ReiserFS support using GRUB as bootloader. Taking same settings for disks and partitions as the older 2.6.8 default kernel, I get "Kernel panic: cannot open root device 'hda4'". Any suggestions? |
| 00:23.26 | levander | eeyore-: i'll try putting "administrator" and the admin password in .smbcredentials |
| 00:23.45 | EdibleText | levander, OR connect to the share AS THE USER:PASSWD of your XP box... so if you use 'levander' on XP then connect to XP (from smbfs) AS levander |
| 00:23.58 | eeyore- | levander: the answer to that question can be found by right-clicking on the 'files you can't copy', click on properties, and security, and so on. grant world modifiable if you'd like |
| 00:24.30 | EdibleText | or just use FAT32 |
| 00:24.51 | eeyore- | levander: but if you're going to do this sort of thing with multiple accounts, you should find better strategy |
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| 00:25.24 | eeyore- | levander: either put them somewhere with common security permissions, use administrator, or just download them to linux directly |
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| 00:25.46 | levander | okay, hold on, i gotta catch up, i was trying stuff |
| 00:26.35 | levander | eeyore-: the "My Documents" folder has "Allow Network users to change my files" checked. I didn't see any permissions on the zip file itself. |
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| 00:26.52 | eeyore- | levander: every file has permissions |
| 00:27.11 | levander | eeyore-: on windows or on linux you're talking about right now? |
| 00:27.14 | eeyore- | levander: whether it's custom or inherited from parent, it has one |
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| 00:27.32 | EdibleText | levander, ATM your problem is windows |
| 00:27.39 | levander | well, the directory the file is in has "Allow Network users to change my files" checked |
| 00:27.41 | eeyore- | levander: weren't we talking about windows? |
| 00:27.58 | levander | eeyore-: yeah, i was just checking |
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| 00:28.16 | levander | i'm trying mounting them as administrator now |
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| 00:29.13 | eeyore- | levander: suggestion for you ... run samba on linux. mount the linux share under windows. make samba use specific uid/gid/perms for writing files into that directory. problem solved. |
| 00:29.39 | levander | eeyore-: until i have a problem doing it that way... |
| 00:29.54 | levander | eeyore-: thanks for the suggestion trying as admin, just tried it, had same error message |
| 00:29.55 | eeyore- | levander: each samba share can be configured to be written with the uid of the client, or with specific uid. with gid of the client, or with specific gid. |
| 00:30.11 | eeyore- | levander: what's the error message? |
| 00:30.25 | levander | cannot open `/mnt/documents/af-extended-live-archive-0.10.zip' for reading: Permission denied |
| 00:30.30 | eeyore- | let me try |
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| 00:30.42 | levander | -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26927 2006-03-30 19:26 /mnt/documents/af-extended-live-archive-0.10.zip |
| 00:31.06 | levander | try what? |
| 00:31.30 | EdibleText | levander, when you connected as administrator did you connect as the windows administrator? |
| 00:31.35 | eeyore- | levander: i have my own machines here, let me try something similar to what you're doing |
| 00:31.47 | ryushe | just compiled 2.6.16 kernel with IDE and ReiserFS support using GRUB as bootloader. Taking same settings for disks and partitions as the older 2.6.8 default kernel, I get "Kernel panic: cannot open root device 'hda4'". Any suggestions? |
| 00:32.07 | levander | EdibleText: i used the Windows XP administrator name and password in the .smbcredentials i posted earlier |
| 00:32.18 | ecdemo | ryushe: find out what drivers you need to mount / |
| 00:32.23 | EdibleText | levander, just checking. |
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| 00:33.06 | ryushe | ecdemo > if you are referring to IDE drivers for instance, I have them selected in kernel atm, as per lspci and 2.6.8 lsmod ouput |
| 00:33.40 | ecdemo | so find out why the problem occurs |
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| 00:34.18 | BiRD | how do I put my wireless card in monitor mode? (for concept purposes) |
| 00:34.27 | [Thom] | How do I modify grub to allow me to change the root password? |
| 00:34.41 | ryushe | ecdemo > brilliant. I'm trying to do just that right here. I can't scroll back in term after it panics, and as far as I can find I don't see any log messages written to a disk it can't find/mount in the first place |
| 00:34.48 | [Thom] | Do I modify the line that just says: boot |
| 00:34.48 | [Thom] | ? |
| 00:35.09 | js_ | [Thom]: add init=/bin/sh to the kernel line |
| 00:35.23 | ryushe | ecdemo > basically, what I'm trying to find out is why with the correct IDE selections in kernel config, it's unable to mount a disk which it can mount with the same IDE drivers under 2.6.8 |
| 00:35.35 | ecdemo | well log messages are out since it's not opening the device |
| 00:35.51 | eeyore- | levander: hmm, having some difficulties here, one moment ;-) |
| 00:35.53 | ecdemo | how do you know they are correct? |
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| 00:36.08 | [Thom] | js_ Do I just append it to the end? Right now it is: kernel/boot/vnlinux-2.4.27-2-386 root=/dev/hda5 ro |
| 00:36.23 | ryushe | ecdemo > there are only so much ICH6 IDE 82801 IDE controllers ;) |
| 00:36.23 | js_ | [Thom]: yes, just append it |
| 00:36.24 | EdibleText | [Thom], try it |
| 00:36.37 | eeyore- | levander: it's a gentoo machine so some things might be slightly broken ATM |
| 00:36.40 | [Thom] | js_ Thanks. |
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| 00:36.58 | ecdemo | is it a module? or is it in the kernel? |
| 00:37.23 | levander | eeyore-: well, check if you can, i might have found some bug in some piece of software i'm using... |
| 00:37.28 | ryushe | ecdemo > everything is in kernel, I personally hate modules |
| 00:37.40 | ryushe | unless it's for little used stuff |
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| 00:38.21 | ecdemo | is the drive connected properly? |
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| 00:38.44 | ecdemo | btw, why are you upgrading the kernel at this time? |
| 00:38.53 | hanasaki | where can i get a codec for wmv video/audeo and totem? |
| 00:39.05 | ryushe | ecdemo > yes, as I can boot other OSs off of it, as well as kernel 2.6.8 (default netinst linux26 installed kernel) |
| 00:39.58 | ecdemo | ok, so what is it you hope to accomplish with a later kernel? |
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| 00:40.24 | cureless | hanasaki: try the marillat repository |
| 00:40.28 | cureless | !marillat |
| 00:40.28 | dpkg | i heard marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
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| 00:40.48 | cureless | hanasaki: don't know about totem though. |
| 00:40.52 | EdibleText | root___, no voice at root |
| 00:40.59 | EdibleText | at/as |
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| 00:41.10 | eeyore- | levander: hmm, it looks like i have some other problem :-) |
| 00:41.25 | jade | is there a debian sarge distro compiled with Intel's CC compiler? |
| 00:41.25 | ryushe | ecdemo > that's a good question. For one I wanted kernel headers compiled in a GCC I have atm, which the kernel headers for the 2.6.8 kernel in the apt sources doesn't provide (GCC 4.0.3, and yes, it's deb unstable) |
| 00:42.05 | ecdemo | gcc doesn't provide headers |
| 00:43.16 | ryan` | wee. |
| 00:43.25 | pipeline | jade: No. |
| 00:43.29 | ryan` | making debian happy with a read-only / is fun. |
| 00:43.30 | pipeline | jade: It's not possible to build linux with ICC. |
| 00:43.31 | hanasaki | thanks |
| 00:43.32 | hanasaki | bbl |
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| 00:43.42 | ecdemo | so there is no specific drivers you need that are not in say 2.6.8? |
| 00:43.42 | pipeline | jade: The kernel simply will not build. |
| 00:43.43 | eeyore- | levander: sorry, i can't test it right now. the system i have is not working right, and one that does (RHEL) doesn't like the XP (unsupported protocol :-7) |
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| 00:44.07 | ryushe | ecdemo > besides an ATI driver for an X550, no |
| 00:44.33 | eeyore- | levander: but, for what it's worth, i've done this sort of thing before. i have a shared folder on the XP machine, removable drive, and i copy stuff to this laptop all the time, so i know it works |
| 00:44.52 | ryushe | ecdemo > oh, and framebuffer support |
| 00:44.54 | ecdemo | is that driver in the kernel-image package of 2.6.15? |
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| 00:45.24 | levander | eeyore-: yeah, it works for me except in this one case, i'm headed to irc.mozilla.org to see if they know anything over there |
| 00:45.39 | ryushe | ecdemo > that could well be, tbh, I've never apt-getted a newer kernel. I've been making them myself since the 2.2 days |
| 00:45.49 | eeyore- | levander: ah yes! i forgot to prefix it with the domain name :-) |
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| 00:45.56 | j33 | I'm trying to install Debian onto a system with 2 sata hd's that are on a built in adaptec aic-8110 sata raid adapter, but the installer doesn't find any hds.. any ideas? |
| 00:46.53 | eeyore- | levander: it just worked for me, now in your case, what is the directory you're mounting? E:\ ? |
| 00:46.56 | ecdemo | j33: you need an installer that has a newer kernel, likely |
| 00:47.17 | j33 | ecdemo: i'm using one that has a 2.4.27 kernel |
| 00:47.18 | ecdemo | failing that, you might be able to bootstrap your way to fame |
| 00:47.37 | j33 | haha any where i'd find one with a newer kernel? |
| 00:47.41 | ecdemo | and it works? or doesnt' work? |
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| 00:47.47 | j33 | 2.4.27 doesn't find the sata |
| 00:47.51 | cureless | j33: you can try to boot using linux26 |
| 00:48.08 | ecdemo | so try booting the iustaller with boot: linux26 |
| 00:48.23 | ecdemo | it might still not work |
| 00:48.26 | ecdemo | but iot |
| 00:48.33 | ecdemo | is worth a shot |
| 00:48.38 | j33 | ahah trying now :P |
| 00:48.45 | ryushe | j33 > bootstrapping using a knoppix livecd is your best bet. I've never had any luck getting debian to install right from the CD onto a SATA disk system with the linux26 option either |
| 00:49.17 | ecdemo | well I have Silicon Image chipset, and that works on 2.6.7 |
| 00:49.28 | pipeline | ecdemo: haha ,sucker, buy a real card :\ |
| 00:49.41 | EdibleText | levander, did you turn off that firewall.. perhaps XP treats *zip files as a vector for malware |
| 00:49.55 | ryan` | ecdemo, the silicon image chipset makes me sad :( |
| 00:49.57 | ecdemo | pipeline: what part of "it works" didn't you understand? |
| 00:49.59 | eeyore- | nothing wrong with silicon image ... |
| 00:50.02 | EdibleText | /big guess |
| 00:50.07 | pipeline | eeyore-: Uh, yes there is. |
| 00:50.10 | pipeline | eeyore-: Terrible, terrible performance. |
| 00:50.16 | ryan` | eeyore-, it sends malformed SATA packets. |
| 00:50.31 | eeyore- | which ones to be more specific? |
| 00:50.32 | j33 | using linux26 didn't find the drives... where can i get information about bootstrapping? |
| 00:50.43 | ryan` | eeyore-, does not play well with seagate or maxtor drives |
| 00:50.51 | ryan` | eeyore-, 15MB/sec max |
| 00:50.58 | cureless | I have an intel SATA controller (don't remember the model) and it works with 2.4.27 |
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| 00:51.14 | ecdemo | try to find a more recent installer with a more recent kernel... I found one with 2.6.15 |
| 00:51.24 | ryan` | and it eats up a crapload of proc time |
| 00:51.35 | eeyore- | ryan`: chip model? |
| 00:51.37 | ecdemo | if that doesn't work then try bootstrapping |
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| 00:51.44 | j33 | ecdemo: where'd you find that, i have one with 2.6.8 |
| 00:51.48 | ryan` | 3114 and 3112 at least |
| 00:51.54 | ecdemo | mine's a 3112 |
| 00:52.01 | eeyore- | ryan`: i don't have that problem with the 3114 |
| 00:52.12 | levander | eeyore-: i'm mounting E:\Documents and Settings\<user name>\My Documents |
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| 00:52.25 | ryan` | http://www.leenooks.com/Silicon+Image+311x+sata+controllers+and+some+Seagate+disks |
| 00:52.26 | levander | EdibleText: yeah, windows firewall is turned off |
| 00:52.29 | eeyore- | levander: ok, one sec |
| 00:52.39 | ryan` | eeyore-: what kins of disks are you using? |
| 00:52.42 | levander | eeyore-: you downloaded a zip file with FF 1.5 on the Windows machine? |
| 00:53.03 | ecdemo | 250g |
| 00:53.33 | ecdemo | are there any plans to support more partitions with the scsi subsystem of the kernel? |
| 00:53.43 | ryan` | ecdemo, yeah, well, I prefer seagate disks. |
| 00:53.47 | ryan` | they suck less. |
| 00:53.54 | ryan` | and have a 5yr warrenty |
| 00:53.59 | j33 | anyone know where i can get an install cd with newer kernel? |
| 00:54.08 | eeyore- | levander: no, i just happen to have a lot of zip files already |
| 00:54.11 | cureless | j33: at the debian website |
| 00:54.16 | eeyore- | levander: and they copy over to linux fine |
| 00:54.25 | j33 | cureless: i'm looking but probably in all the wrong places |
| 00:54.28 | levander | eeyore-: it only fails if i've just downloaded it with FF 1.5 |
| 00:54.47 | astronut | what's regexp not/except (for string, not char) |
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| 00:54.52 | eeyore- | levander: well, give me one URL :-) don't want to think about going to download.com or something |
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| 00:55.13 | gilianima | is it possible to access the BIOS from linux ? |
| 00:55.27 | gilianima | is there a command to do that ? |
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| 00:55.41 | ecdemo | levander: what is it about the file that causes it to fail? |
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| 00:55.57 | levander | eeyore-: http://www.sonsofskadi.net/wp-content/upload/af-extended-live-archive-0.10.zip |
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| 00:56.06 | levander | download that with FF 1.5 |
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| 00:56.29 | cureless | j33: google for debian installer |
| 00:56.48 | EdibleText | levander, and that same file downloaded wioth explorer or ftp copies fine? |
| 00:57.10 | j33 | cureless: thanks |
| 00:57.13 | bucky | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 00:57.13 | dpkg | it has been said that sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
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| 00:57.26 | eeyore- | ryan`: according to that page, the sil m15w only affect 3112's, not 3114 |
| 00:57.33 | levander | EdibleText: yeah, i've just tried that because of what they said in #firefox on irc.mozilla.org, copies over fine when i download with IE |
| 00:57.57 | ryan` | eeyore-: it lies. |
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| 00:58.07 | norskfjord | Im having trouble with eggdrop. I can't use /msg botname hello or dcc chat with it, only telnet |
| 00:58.21 | norskfjord | also, how do I make it do ctcp stuff |
| 00:58.27 | joeyjones | does anyone know if it's possible to log a subdirectory seperately in apache2? |
| 00:58.32 | EdibleText | levander, whoa |
| 00:58.42 | levander | i'm going to check FF's bugzilla now |
| 00:58.45 | akamatos | hi, it seems like i ve destroyed the fstab and the pc wont boot... is there any solution? |
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| 00:58.52 | EdibleText | levander, well i thionk this is now beyond the scope of debian or samba |
| 00:58.54 | levander | EdibleText: whoa? |
| 00:58.56 | ecdemo | norskfjord: why? |
| 00:59.11 | ryan` | eeyore-, SIMG _CLAIMS_ 3114 is ok, but it's not. |
| 00:59.12 | norskfjord | not sure |
| 00:59.21 | ecdemo | what does it say? |
| 00:59.21 | levander | EdibleText: it has something to do with some permissions that don't show up in Windows Explorer and what samba likes... |
| 00:59.28 | norskfjord | ecdemo, I just get no reply |
| 00:59.32 | ryan` | they're the same bloody chip, it's just 2 port vs 4 port |
| 00:59.34 | norskfjord | when I do /msg botname hello |
| 00:59.36 | ecdemo | what do the logs say? |
| 00:59.45 | jbroome | norskfjord: is your nick registered? |
| 00:59.52 | norskfjord | yes |
| 00:59.52 | ecdemo | oh, good point |
| 01:00.02 | EdibleText | levander, well I asked that question so as to eliminate FF as an issue.. but your ansewer suggests otherwise |
| 01:00.03 | norskfjord | not the bot nick though |
| 01:00.06 | ecdemo | what do the logs say? |
| 01:00.20 | ecdemo | so the bot nick needs to be regd |
| 01:00.23 | norskfjord | where are they? |
| 01:00.36 | norskfjord | maybe it's something in eggdrop.conf |
| 01:00.40 | ecdemo | dunno, you're closer to them than I are |
| 01:00.55 | ecdemo | maybe |
| 01:01.10 | ecdemo | look and see ;) |
| 01:02.38 | levander | eeyore-: if you can reproduce it, i'm filing a bug in bugzilla.mozilla.org |
| 01:02.50 | ecdemo | maybe they're somewhere near the dir where the config file is |
| 01:02.54 | eeyore- | levander: nope, worked for me |
| 01:03.19 | ecdemo | maybe you can telnet into the bot and watch the action |
| 01:03.33 | eeyore- | levander: downloaded with firefox 1.5.0.1, downloaded to "My Documents", cp'd over to linux. same md5 fingerprints |
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| 01:03.50 | eeyore- | levander: something's possessed your computer :-) |
| 01:04.14 | ecdemo | yeah, you did when you bought it |
| 01:04.29 | EdibleText | levander, have you tried sharing root er i mean c:\ and placed or saved a irksome zip file and then tried to reproduce the problem? |
| 01:04.34 | levander | eeyore-: and the linux machine had smbfs mounting the machine from the windows machine? |
| 01:04.40 | ecdemo | possession is 9/10ths of the flaw... |
| 01:04.44 | levander | mounting the share** i meant |
| 01:05.02 | eeyore- | levander: yes, linux mounts //easter/foo <- that's the 'shared as' name |
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| 01:05.23 | EdibleText | ecdemo, I had a revelation about that saying a while back |
| 01:05.27 | levander | eeyore-: i'm rebooting everything, all three machines i've got, bb in like 10 minutes |
| 01:05.34 | eeyore- | levander: 'foo' is really c:\Documents....\<username>\My Documents |
| 01:05.40 | EdibleText | ecdemo, its the 1/10 thats most important ;) |
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| 01:06.39 | EdibleText | its like owning land but not holding mineral rights |
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| 01:07.34 | SonnyBurnett | hi, is there some channel for thunderbird? |
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| 01:08.11 | unstable | !thunderbird |
| 01:08.11 | dpkg | [thunderbird] http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/ for the package maintainerhttp://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/ for upstream |
| 01:08.21 | unstable | SonnyBurnett: irc.mozilla.org #thunderbird |
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| 01:09.02 | EdibleText | eye69, when you md5summed the file did you invoke md5sum from linux on botht the 'on share copy' and the 'on linux fs copy |
| 01:09.02 | evaded | What would say this "64 bytes from 192.168.0.25: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.584 ms (DUP!)" |
| 01:09.07 | evaded | The DUP?? |
| 01:09.34 | EdibleText | evaded, whats the netmask of this network |
| 01:09.44 | evaded | an private one?? |
| 01:09.52 | evaded | EdibleText: ^^ |
| 01:09.57 | evaded | 192.168.0 |
| 01:10.15 | EdibleText | eeyore-, , when you md5summed the file did you invoke md5sum from linux on botht the 'on share copy' and the 'on linux fs copy |
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| 01:10.26 | EdibleText | evaded, yes |
| 01:10.31 | EdibleText | of that network |
| 01:10.35 | Jacobo221 | is there no package to get java configured with binfmt ? |
| 01:10.42 | eeyore- | EdibleText: yep |
| 01:11.00 | eeyore- | EdibleText: that's what i would have expected ;-) |
| 01:11.06 | ecdemo | dup is going to be an additional reply to a single ping packet |
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| 01:11.33 | evaded | Is that dangerous DUP, or an + for hackers? |
| 01:11.56 | ecdemo | say you ping all of a subnet, and 5 answer... the first one will not say dup, the next 4 will |
| 01:11.57 | eeyore- | evaded: you got more than one machine answering your ping? |
| 01:12.15 | evaded | eeyore-: I have doing an broadcast ping internally |
| 01:12.22 | eeyore- | evaded: well then, expect DUP :-) |
| 01:12.25 | ecdemo | so the dups are expected |
| 01:12.30 | evaded | eeyore-: So normally? |
| 01:12.41 | evaded | Ok |
| 01:12.43 | eeyore- | evaded: normally, pings to 1 ip => no dup's |
| 01:12.56 | evaded | ping -b 192.168.0.255 |
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| 01:13.07 | rpmx | Hi |
| 01:13.09 | ecdemo | evaded: I get the feeling you're not understanding the situation |
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| 01:13.33 | evaded | ecdemo: no, i not understand it clearly :-? |
| 01:13.43 | ecdemo | if you send one ping to 192.168.0.255, how many pongs do you expect? |
| 01:13.44 | rpmx | I have a problem with dosemu this is error whe I tried run clipper program |
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| 01:14.06 | rpmx | C:\PEEK\TDP>tdpstart.exe |
| 01:14.06 | rpmx | dos mem corrupt, first_mcb=025a |
| 01:14.06 | rpmx | prev 2099:0000|4d 00 00 7e 46 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 M..~F........... |
| 01:14.06 | rpmx | notMZ6718:0000|66 0e 19 f3 66 c6 8a f3 66 c9 8a f3 66 cc 8a f3 f..<f}è<f.è<f}è< |
| 01:14.06 | rpmx | PANIC: before 4a: MCB chain corrupted |
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| 01:14.18 | evaded | ecdemo: pong? Ping-ping ?? |
| 01:14.30 | EdibleText | !pong evaded |
| 01:14.32 | eeyore- | brilliant |
| 01:14.56 | norskfjord | how do I make my eggdrop say hell to someone when they join my channel? |
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| 01:15.09 | eeyore- | ecdemo: save your sanity now |
| 01:15.12 | js_ | norskfjord: #egghelp |
| 01:15.39 | eeyore- | evaded: the DUP's are not dangerous, unless you live in Tuttle, Oklahoma, and work for Jerry |
| 01:15.57 | evaded | eeyore-: And in Belguim?? |
| 01:16.03 | ecdemo | that's dupe, not dup :) |
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| 01:16.19 | runer | noroute`: with tcl ? |
| 01:16.19 | EdibleText | eeyore-, I hacked that guy. |
| 01:16.24 | runer | onjoin.tcl :) |
| 01:16.35 | EdibleText | eeyore-, I went to his website |
| 01:16.36 | levander | eeyore-: do you mind trying one more thing to reproduce the problem? I think I know why yours worked. |
| 01:16.50 | levander | eeyore-: download that zip from this page: http://www.sonsofskadi.net/index.php/extended-live-archive/ |
| 01:16.55 | EdibleText | and left a log entry |
| 01:16.55 | ecdemo | you can get the openacs database api to work on an eggdrop |
| 01:17.03 | levander | and don't do "save link as" just click on it to download it |
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| 01:17.21 | CHIKOCASTRO | .238.227.227 31337 |
| 01:17.31 | eeyore- | levander: if i don't save link as, i would be opening it, right? |
| 01:17.35 | SonnyBurnett | which method is faster to download something? from a ftp server o http? |
| 01:17.40 | evaded | EdibleText: On my webserver?? |
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| 01:17.46 | ecdemo | !ops CHIKOCASTRO mass invite |
| 01:17.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: CHIKOCASTRO mass invite |
| 01:17.49 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone here do PXE boot with debian? |
| 01:17.49 | levander | eeyore-: i get a dialog asking if I want to open or save it |
| 01:18.00 | eeyore- | levander: right, so you want me to open it ... with winzip? |
| 01:18.53 | eeyore- | EdibleText: the dude looks scary enough |
| 01:18.58 | levander | eeyore-: no, download it, then copy it to linux |
| 01:19.06 | levander | cp it to linux, from linux |
| 01:19.07 | EdibleText | evaded, i left an entry in your access.log. im a haxor! |
| 01:19.12 | eeyore- | EdibleText: i can't help but make instant prejudiced impression of the guy |
| 01:19.26 | EdibleText | eeyore-, I feel bad for him |
| 01:19.30 | eeyore- | levander: uh .... that's what i did. i 'save as', then cp'd |
| 01:19.32 | EdibleText | so clueliess |
| 01:19.34 | bucky | !cl |
| 01:19.34 | dpkg | methinks cl is common lisp |
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| 01:19.40 | eeyore- | EdibleText: 22 years!!!! |
| 01:19.46 | eeyore- | must have been wanking those 22 years |
| 01:19.51 | evaded | it's an private ip, everyone have that one, so no matters?? |
| 01:20.12 | levander | eeyore-: are you right clicking and choosing "save as", when i right click it works for me. But, when I left click and download, it doesn't work. |
| 01:20.16 | EdibleText | I better get out of this field. i have 16 years to go before i get like that |
| 01:20.18 | Led_Zeppelin | !dpkg pxe |
| 01:20.19 | dpkg | methinks pxe is a network boot protocol. http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php |
| 01:20.40 | eeyore- | levander: what difference does it make? BTW, no, i left-click and save-as |
| 01:21.00 | likeafox | woot. smtp, http, samba, ssh, pop3 all working :D |
| 01:21.04 | likeafox | Thanks everyone, peace out |
| 01:21.06 | levander | eeyore-: the difference it works one way and not the other for me, i'm just trying to see if i should report the bug to mozilla |
| 01:21.09 | eeyore- | evaded: let me see if i can think of an analogy .... |
| 01:21.16 | EdibleText | likeafox, GRATZIE!!! |
| 01:21.18 | evaded | eeyore-: yes :-/ |
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| 01:21.45 | Led_Zeppelin | any PXE booters? do you know if a standard router will work for PXE? |
| 01:22.15 | eeyore- | mmmmm. |
| 01:22.16 | EdibleText | PXE is/is like tftp right.. |
| 01:22.22 | EdibleText | non routable |
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| 01:23.02 | eeyore- | evaded: let's see, the IP's in 192.168.* and 10.*, and a few others, are *non-routable* over the internet |
| 01:23.10 | eeyore- | evaded: do you know what that means? |
| 01:23.13 | Led_Zeppelin | EdibleText: yes, its tftp. |
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| 01:23.58 | evaded | eeyore-: Yes, is more for private usage, and people outside my network can not use it, or access it. Right?? |
| 01:24.23 | eeyore- | EdibleText: PXE is the intel boot-over-network thingie, yeah, achieves same thing as tftp |
| 01:24.44 | eeyore- | evaded: right |
| 01:25.13 | evaded | So DUP mean duplicated ip adresse and somebody could use my ip to do bad things?? |
| 01:25.22 | eeyore- | evaded: no |
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| 01:25.34 | evaded | hmm |
| 01:25.45 | eeyore- | evaded: let's think 'common' stuff here. you have a wallet right? |
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| 01:25.58 | eeyore- | evaded: chances are good you bought that wallet right? so it's mass-produced, right? |
| 01:26.15 | eeyore- | evaded: and some other dudes probably bought the same wallet, right? |
| 01:26.16 | evaded | eeyore-: What mean you with wallet? |
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| 01:26.31 | endeavormac | I have no idea where an appropriate place to ask this question is, so I'm hoping someone can help me. I'm trying to connect to a VNC Server, but I keep getting an error saying the server is using version 3.889, and that that's an incompatible version. That's with xvncviewer and xtightvncviewer (two different names for the same program?) |
| 01:26.32 | EdibleText | ah.. i was mistaken.. i thought that tftp wasnt routable, its just not recomended that its routed.. utilizes UDP |
| 01:26.33 | eeyore- | evaded: the thing in your pocket that you put money, credit card, etc. |
| 01:26.37 | Langly | evaded is dense if he doesnt know what a wallet is |
| 01:26.48 | eeyore- | Langly: not native English speaker |
| 01:26.59 | evaded | yes, babytrans had say it, but had not say what in this discusion |
| 01:27.00 | Langly | Canadian? JK :P |
| 01:27.45 | eeyore- | evaded: so anyhow, your wallet and that other dude's wallet, eventhough the same brand and everything (192.168.1.1, for example), aren't really the *same* wallet, right? i mean, it's got different things in it, right? |
| 01:28.38 | eeyore- | evaded: so, what exactly is the problem there? your IP, while may be same as the other guys' IP, is still only meaningful to you. if i had to look only at the wallet and NOT at the content inside, i'd be hard-pressed to know who it came from. |
| 01:28.38 | evaded | yes |
| 01:28.50 | endeavormac | is 3.889 even a valid version of VNC? As far as I can tell, the most recent protocol is 3.3 |
| 01:29.15 | EdibleText | endeavormac, perhaps thats why its incompatible ;) |
| 01:29.17 | evaded | eeyore-: Yes, i understand it a bit better now ;-) |
| 01:29.18 | Langly | Is there a way to VNC to a linux box from a wndows machine? |
| 01:29.22 | eeyore- | evaded: apart from that, your *private* IP will *not* go out to the internet anyway, so there's no packets floating around with 192.168 IP's inside it |
| 01:29.33 | EdibleText | Langly, yup |
| 01:29.49 | endeavormac | well how could it have a version 3.889? This is frustrating |
| 01:30.19 | EdibleText | !find vncserver |
| 01:30.32 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'vncserver' (3): (/usr/bin/realvncserver) in x11/vncserver ;; (/usr/bin/tightvncserver) in x11/tightvncserver ;; (/usr/lib/libvncserver.a, /usr/bin/libvncserver-config) in x11/libvncserver-dev. |
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| 01:30.39 | eeyore- | evaded: but just for discussion's sake, even if *somehow* your packets do go out with 192.168 in it, a few things would happen: (1) the router(s) along the way would drop them, or in the unlikely event that nobody drops them and somehow the 'authority' got a hold of it, they wouldn't know *whose* 192.168.* IP it is :-) because *EVERYBODY AND THEIR DOGS* in the whole world probably uses this |
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| 01:30.57 | eeyore- | evaded: so, feel free to bask in the anonymity that 192.168.* gives you. welcome to the planet. |
| 01:31.32 | evaded | eeyore-: So i'm crazy? |
| 01:31.42 | eeyore- | evaded: not crazy, just not understanding |
| 01:32.02 | EdibleText | eeyore-, I feel most anonymous when i contain all my net traffic to my LAN |
| 01:32.06 | eeyore- | evaded: in other words, 192.168.* IP's are NOT UNIQUE TO YOU :-) |
| 01:32.09 | evaded | eeyore-: :-/ need to learn some additional things i think :-/ not enought network experience |
| 01:32.29 | EdibleText | evaded, RFC1918 |
| 01:32.43 | eeyore- | oh god, the language of RFC's .... |
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| 01:32.48 | EdibleText | heh |
| 01:33.03 | evaded | Request for comment, Thanks guys to give you're time and experience. We see where the hackers are :-0 |
| 01:33.16 | Langly | RFC1149 owns you |
| 01:33.47 | eeyore- | EdibleText: how about the rubber-chicken RFC? |
| 01:34.17 | EdibleText | I like IP over carrier pigeon |
| 01:34.46 | eeyore- | hey, i just have an idea ... |
| 01:34.46 | EdibleText | eeyore-, which RFC is that |
| 01:34.57 | eeyore- | EdibleText: i honestly don't bookmark that :-) |
| 01:34.58 | stew | i hate april fools |
| 01:35.00 | EdibleText | the chicken one |
| 01:35.02 | EdibleText | heh |
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| 01:35.36 | eeyore- | you guys head of geocaching right? |
| 01:35.59 | stew | .org |
| 01:35.59 | EdibleText | eeyore-, yes.. :) |
| 01:36.06 | eeyore- | well, there's this travel-bug thing that's a subculture of geocaching. the idea is to have a travel-bug, a thing of some sort, go from one part of country to the next. |
| 01:36.34 | EdibleText | like an party gnome or something |
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| 01:36.36 | eeyore- | well, maybe the 'travel-bug' could be a flash media of some sort, so people could load it with picture and pass it on to the next destination ... would be interesting |
| 01:36.41 | Richard___ | hi |
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| 01:37.22 | EdibleText | eeyore-, perhaps an old quantum bigfoot.. |
| 01:37.34 | eeyore- | uh ... NO :-) |
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| 01:37.49 | EdibleText | eeyore-, oh you are suggesting adding some data as it travels? |
| 01:37.56 | eeyore- | EdibleText: yes |
| 01:37.58 | EdibleText | \ehh |
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| 01:38.14 | EdibleText | bad stew, baaaaAd |
| 01:38.25 | stew | why? |
| 01:38.37 | EdibleText | just seems so wrong.. |
| 01:38.40 | eeyore- | EdibleText: or maybe URL to a website people could upload pic (myspace? yuck, one of the free photo portals?) |
| 01:38.43 | stew | they are often easier to use as a system drive then trying to find another 5.25->3.5 adapter :) |
| 01:38.49 | EdibleText | i mean there like big |
| 01:39.02 | EdibleText | stew, excellent point |
| 01:39.21 | eeyore- | but the flash would be niftier. i might start that in moab this year. we're going SOON! ah geez i'm getting excited again. only twenty something days to go. |
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| 01:39.57 | evaded | THE manual to read to understand a bit better the network?? |
| 01:40.00 | cluck | bye all |
| 01:40.06 | evaded | Somebody sugestions? |
| 01:40.07 | EdibleText | eeyore-, thats a grand idea.. pesure to weather proof it somehow |
| 01:40.12 | eeyore- | evaded: there isn't one. get a book :-) |
| 01:40.21 | eeyore- | night |
| 01:40.26 | evaded | eeyore-: Wich one for example :-/ |
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| 01:40.57 | ecdemo | rusty's unreliable guides? |
| 01:41.10 | ecdemo | for understanding networks, right? |
| 01:41.20 | grendelson | I lose my alsa sound after every reboot _ I cant even find my darned bookmark for this - can someone please pop up a URL or a dpkg syntax to get a hint for this? |
| 01:41.44 | ecdemo | first find out why you lose your alsa |
| 01:41.48 | EdibleText | evaded, you should be able to use the net for all your computing resource needs.. unless its propriatary.. |
| 01:41.55 | stew | EdibleText: when i finally got fed up of finding/buying 5.25->3.5 adapters, i built the frankenraid: http://vireo.org/tmp/img_0004.sized.jpg :) |
| 01:42.04 | ecdemo | your alsa lies o'er the ocean... |
| 01:42.25 | evaded | EdibleText: That's right, i need to learn a bit more about that subject :-/ Time to do it! |
| 01:42.46 | grendelson | ecdemo, runnign alsaconf brings it right back.. |
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| 01:43.14 | grendelson | is ti possible oss drivers loading first kill alsa or esd or the like kill it? |
| 01:43.31 | EdibleText | stew, nice. i notice a BNC cable.. thats an all in wonder card PCI? |
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| 01:43.51 | jazzanova | hi |
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| 01:44.13 | jazzanova | where can i get documentation on standard C api/libraries ? |
| 01:44.16 | stew | EdibleText: that machine has one pchdtv 3000 and one hauppauge 350 |
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| 01:44.51 | joeyjones | can someone help me with setting up subdomains in apache2? |
| 01:45.00 | EdibleText | ah, i should get one.. or two. just ordered the m-audio delta 1010LT |
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| 01:45.12 | evaded | EdibleText: Know you some good sites about that subject, or can you give me some ideal keywords where a google on it. Like i not know many about it, i not know on what i need to search, which keywords needed ... :-/ |
| 01:45.13 | vin` | grendelson: try dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base |
| 01:45.14 | EdibleText | for a homebrew recording studio |
| 01:45.26 | grendelson | vin`, Thanks I'll give it a try .... |
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| 01:46.05 | EdibleText | evaded, about basic networking? |
| 01:46.15 | stew | EdibleText: my wife is a tv junky which is why she has 4 capture cards and a raid array for tv |
| 01:46.25 | grendelson | stew: WOW! |
| 01:46.38 | EdibleText | stew, shes lucky you are her husband ;) |
| 01:46.51 | evaded | EdibleText: Basic and then advanced, i want to know a bit more, i not like it when i not know like the DUP and so ... |
| 01:46.52 | EdibleText | tell he i said so |
| 01:46.58 | EdibleText | her* |
| 01:47.00 | stew | EdibleText: i think i'm the lucky one |
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| 01:47.04 | EdibleText | heh |
| 01:47.20 | stew | EdibleText: i handle the raid and the os, she handles the cards and myth |
| 01:47.21 | Canna | I restarted my system and now my sound is no longer working, I modprobed my module, is there anything else im forgetting? |
| 01:47.47 | EdibleText | stew, I see.. you are lucky |
| 01:47.50 | vin` | Canna: sarge? |
| 01:47.52 | pjv | anyone here use sarg with squid? |
| 01:47.54 | Bucciarati | anybody know of a program to use several consoles at once? like typing the same commands, opening vi and moving around.. in multiple consoles? |
| 01:48.08 | Canna | vin`: |
| 01:48.12 | Canna | vin`:yes |
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| 01:48.31 | evaded | Bucciarati: like 'screen' or so? |
| 01:48.39 | vin` | Canna: what did you tweak? was it working between boots before? |
| 01:49.01 | Bucciarati | evaded: i use screen, but it is a terminal multiplexer, i need a mass-terminal-controller :) |
| 01:49.04 | joeyjones | can someone help me with setting up subdomains in apache2? |
| 01:49.19 | Canna | vin`: I just added another hard drive, so I had to reboot, I had not tried to reboot yet |
| 01:49.22 | EdibleText | evaded, well start with the TLDP |
| 01:49.26 | joeyjones | would i use virtualhost or what? |
| 01:49.26 | EdibleText | !tldp |
| 01:49.26 | dpkg | tldp is probably The Linux Documentation Project at http://www.tldp.org |
| 01:49.32 | EdibleText | www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.html |
| 01:49.34 | Bucciarati | like, i press a key into this program, and that key gets on all terminals i want it to go to |
| 01:49.37 | evaded | EdibleText: Right! |
| 01:49.39 | Canna | vin`:now I cant even get white noise |
| 01:49.53 | vin` | Canna: try running alsaconf again. |
| 01:50.05 | Canna | it wasnt working as alsa |
| 01:50.07 | Canna | it was OSS |
| 01:50.17 | vin` | Canna: ah, 2.4? |
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| 01:50.50 | Canna | vin`: what my kernel, no 2.6.82 |
| 01:51.00 | stew | Bucciarati: maybe clusterssh or dsh |
| 01:51.11 | vin` | Canna: maybe try alsa. |
| 01:51.12 | Bucciarati | evaded: because i have just made such a program and wanted to know if something similar already existed.. |
| 01:51.23 | Bucciarati | stew: i have also used clusterssh and dsh :) |
| 01:51.30 | Canna | vin`: I upgraded to that... everyone kept saying make sure you use alsa, and it wasnt working forever, i switched to oss as output in my programs |
| 01:51.44 | Canna | and it worked |
| 01:51.49 | Bucciarati | stew: but clusterssh is for X and it is limited to ssh, and dsh is not interactive |
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| 01:51.51 | Canna | now tho i cant even get white noise |
| 01:52.16 | vin` | Canna: dunno, haven't fiddled with OSS in years. |
| 01:52.56 | Bucciarati | so.. i guess my program is original ;p |
| 01:53.20 | EdibleText | Bucciarati, hmm therre is a program that is used primarliy for teaching.. that does what you say |
| 01:53.27 | vin` | Bucciarati: what does it do? |
| 01:53.28 | EdibleText | i vaugly remember |
| 01:53.46 | Canna | alsaconf gives me : no sound cards installed |
| 01:53.55 | Canna | loadstate:1267 |
| 01:53.59 | Bucciarati | EdibleText: know the name or some google searchwords for it ? is it free as in free speech ? |
| 01:54.16 | EdibleText | Bucciarati, let me think and yes |
| 01:54.16 | Canna | but that was after it detected my crystalsound??? |
| 01:54.34 | EdibleText | Bucciarati, its in debian |
| 01:55.22 | Bucciarati | vin`: you press a key into this program, and that key is sent to a bunch of terminal devices you choose |
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| 01:55.22 | Bucciarati | i use it for cluster-control |
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| 01:55.32 | vin` | Bucciarati: lesser typing eh? ;) |
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| 01:55.48 | EdibleText | !info gems |
| 01:55.52 | dpkg | gems: (Shows a console session in several terminals), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 144 kB |
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| 01:56.11 | Bucciarati | vin`: lesser typing is crucial when you have 20 hosts on which to type the same command.. :) |
| 01:56.11 | luminist | hi! |
| 01:56.28 | luminist | I wanna ask you just one question. |
| 01:56.43 | Bucciarati | EdibleText: thanks i'll look at it. i have made this because i couldn\'t find it the time i searched |
| 01:56.46 | EdibleText | Bucciarati, is this for administration or for teaching? |
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| 01:57.06 | Bucciarati | EdibleText: i use it for my work |
| 01:57.13 | EdibleText | Bucciarati, ah.. |
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| 01:57.23 | ^ATOMIC^ | how do i start the cron job to index the site for search? |
| 01:57.34 | EdibleText | well if your program is unique make it availible ;) |
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| 01:57.39 | vin` | Canna: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 01:57.40 | luminist | How can I fix CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS error when kernel compiling? |
| 01:58.00 | magyar | folks , i need info about pam. Is it possible to get pam to do a mysql db lookup and if it fails to do a unix db lookup for a username ? SOS |
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| 01:58.05 | vin` | luminist: is it available in menuconfig? |
| 01:58.08 | Bucciarati | EdibleText: i am about to put it on sourceforge :) i think they will accept it |
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| 01:58.32 | Canna | vin`: yeah i know about that... no help |
| 01:58.33 | EdibleText | Bucciarati, you basically want the opposite (if such a contrast is possible) of screen ;) |
| 01:58.52 | luminist | How should I config what part of menuconfig menu? |
| 01:58.56 | vin` | Canna: do you know which alsa module your sound card works with? |
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| 01:59.16 | Canna | cs46xx |
| 01:59.17 | Bucciarati | EdibleText: not the opposite, i would call it the completion of screen (~screen + screen == 1) :))) |
| 01:59.29 | vin` | luminist: is it an error or a warning? |
| 01:59.36 | luminist | error |
| 02:00.05 | EdibleText | yes ;) |
| 02:00.06 | luminist | In the middle of compiling kernel, it stopped with error |
| 02:00.29 | Bucciarati | EdibleText: i think my program is different enough from gem's concept to be released |
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| 02:00.50 | luminist | exact error message is |
| 02:00.51 | luminist | SYSMAP System.map |
| 02:00.51 | luminist | SYSMAP .tmp_System.map |
| 02:00.51 | luminist | Inconsistent kallsyms data |
| 02:00.51 | luminist | Try setting CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS |
| 02:00.51 | luminist | make[1]: *** [vmlinux] 오류 1 |
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| 02:01.20 | jazzanova | where can I get documentation on standarda C functions ? |
| 02:01.21 | EdibleText | Bucciarati, if i under stand you correctly.. you want to type a command in a console but have that command invoked on more then one machine |
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| 02:02.18 | Bucciarati | EdibleText: not limited to commands.. i also use to open vi and edit files on all hosts at the same time |
| 02:02.30 | jazzanova | :/set logfile /tmp/irclog.txt |
| 02:02.31 | vin` | luminist: it ain't set here, if all else fails, edit .config and set CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS=y, vaguely remember doing it a long time back. |
| 02:02.36 | jazzanova | sorry |
| 02:03.03 | EdibleText | Bucciarati, sure.. i gotcha.. gems is more like screen-lite |
| 02:03.10 | luminist | In my .config file, CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS does not exists. |
| 02:03.23 | EdibleText | Bucciarati, didnt understand your concept at first |
| 02:03.25 | Bucciarati | EdibleText: but my program is not about network at all.. it attaches to terminals and controls them. of course the main use i find for it is opening ssh to different hosts in those controlled terminals |
| 02:03.36 | vin` | luminist: which kernel? |
| 02:03.59 | luminist | wait, please ^^ |
| 02:04.06 | luminist | I'll check |
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| 02:04.25 | Bucciarati | and i think gems requires additional software installed somewhere else .. ? gem itself ? |
| 02:04.25 | luminist | ubuntu 2.6.12 |
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| 02:04.31 | vin` | luminist: hah |
| 02:04.48 | EdibleText | gems_1.1-3_i386.deb |
| 02:04.50 | luminist | in my .config files |
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| 02:04.54 | EdibleText | depends on libc6 |
| 02:05.01 | vin` | luminist: asked #ubuntu? |
| 02:05.08 | luminist | oh! |
| 02:05.11 | luminist | ok! |
| 02:05.17 | luminist | thanks for your help ^^ |
| 02:05.29 | EdibleText | Bucciarati, apt-cache show gems |
| 02:05.33 | Bucciarati | EdibleText: i meant, on the machines you want to control with it |
| 02:06.03 | EdibleText | oh never used it. just rememebers reading about it long time ago |
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| 02:06.22 | EdibleText | #debian circa 2003 |
| 02:06.27 | Bucciarati | thanks for pointing it out to me :) |
| 02:06.34 | EdibleText | perhaps 2002 |
| 02:07.00 | EdibleText | Bucciarati, you have a name for your proggie? |
| 02:07.33 | Bucciarati | not yet.. it is "cscreen.c" (cluster-screen) for now |
| 02:08.04 | vin` | Bucciarati: well your successes and mistakes will be simultaneously amplified across the cluster, hmm. |
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| 02:08.42 | Bucciarati | vin`: ahahah that's right! especially for mistakes, which tend to expand faster than successes |
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| 02:09.15 | EdibleText | successes mearly keep you moving forward |
| 02:09.32 | EdibleText | they are not registered.. mistakes however |
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| 02:10.29 | Bucciarati | but i have been using clusterssh (before), and this thing now, for a while and _for me_ the advantages overcome the dangers |
| 02:11.09 | EdibleText | yeah its like wearing chainmail underware in a sharktank |
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| 02:11.34 | Bucciarati | of course it is overkill if you have 2 hosts.. but i tend to work with more than that :) |
| 02:11.47 | vin` | Bucciarati: interesting concept though, might even work almost like a botnet. |
| 02:12.08 | _shane | when running a script is there a way to put up a dialog asking the user a question and act on the answer in the script? |
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| 02:12.34 | joeyjones | does anyone knoe of a way to create a seperate log for a sub-directory in apache2? |
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| 02:13.03 | vin` | joeyjones: asked #apache? |
| 02:13.14 | Bucciarati | vin`: umh exactly.. once an "apt-get update" trough this made the gigabit switch go crazy :) |
| 02:13.17 | joeyjones | there's a #apache? |
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| 02:15.52 | runer | sepen: hola |
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| 02:17.23 | Bucciarati | well.. it's deep night here in CET timezone.. bye!! |
| 02:17.38 | joeyjones | vin`: if only #apache wasn't dead... |
| 02:17.50 | EdibleText | _shane, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html#ss10.1 |
| 02:18.44 | EdibleText | _shane, its called 'read' its reads stdin |
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| 02:19.37 | _shane | EdibleText: I don't have a man page for 'read' |
| 02:19.46 | EdibleText | _shane, help read |
| 02:19.50 | EdibleText | its part of bash |
| 02:20.17 | EdibleText | _shane, but go to the link if examples serve you better then the help page |
| 02:21.15 | _shane | EdibleText: what link? |
| 02:21.15 | dondelelcaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.20 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that's good. |
| 02:21.33 | EdibleText | _shane, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html#ss10.1 |
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| 02:22.01 | yourworldelivere | YO YEAWALL |
| 02:22.10 | yourworldelivere | HEwAll is Here? |
| 02:22.17 | yourworldelivere | any1? |
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| 02:22.33 | yourworldelivere | d |
| 02:22.36 | yourworldelivere | o |
| 02:22.37 | yourworldelivere | e |
| 02:22.37 | yourworldelivere | s |
| 02:22.41 | yourworldelivere | anyone |
| 02:22.42 | EdibleText | goodbye |
| 02:23.04 | yourworldelivere | f |
| 02:23.04 | yourworldelivere | f |
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| 02:23.19 | EdibleText | sooner then you thought |
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| 02:24.23 | _shane | EdibleText: this isn't what I was looking for I would like for a window to pop up with the question (like a GUI) and return the answer to the script |
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| 02:25.29 | mins | what is the function of CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS in .config in /usr/src/linux? |
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| 02:26.02 | EdibleText | _shane, sorry i dont know that currently. Though there is something to be learned from simple scripts, you can apply the concepts to more elabrate (gui perhaps) situations |
| 02:26.33 | _shane | EdibleText: ok thanks for trying to help :) |
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| 02:34.27 | mins | hello |
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| 02:39.36 | kreg_work | wondering how to move a db on one mysql server, to another mysql server with db's already on it. |
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| 02:39.41 | stazo | strange. my mouse is frozen after boot-up to kdm. but when i do a alt-ctrl-f1 to go to command-line mode and then a f7, it starts to work. who can explain that? |
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| 02:40.07 | Tortel | unpllug it, then re-plug it |
| 02:40.27 | stazo | Tortel, this is for who? |
| 02:40.36 | Tortel | you |
| 02:41.03 | Tortel | im too lazy to type some letters then tab stazo |
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| 02:41.42 | stazo | Tortel, that would be dealing with the hw, as i said, i can do it the soft way. the best would be that it comes up ok after boot. |
| 02:41.53 | Tortel | owell |
| 02:42.18 | Tortel | my P key dont work until I change my layout of keyboard |
| 02:42.34 | Tortel | and sound dont work until I use alsaconf... |
| 02:42.38 | stazo | i look at Xorg.0.log, no error there. what is going on? |
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| 02:43.17 | stazo | i am using kernel-2.6.15. |
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| 02:43.46 | cat | stazo: what's you're issue? |
| 02:43.48 | joeyjones | how can i findout what all the groups on the system are? |
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| 02:44.30 | cat | joeyjones: cat /etc/passwd |
| 02:44.40 | stazo | cat, my mouse is frozen after boot-up to kdm. but when i do a alt-ctrl-f1 to go to command-line mode and then a f7 to return to graphics mode, it starts to work. who can explain that? |
| 02:44.50 | cat | joeyjones: cat /etc/passwd and cat /etc/group |
| 02:45.27 | cat | stazo: is it a usb mouse |
| 02:45.27 | cat | ? |
| 02:45.41 | stazo | cat, yeh. |
| 02:45.50 | joeyjones | cat: how do i give a user ftp access? |
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| 02:46.02 | cat | stazo: well when ever the mouse is freezing on you go to a terminal and do this command /etc/init.d/hotplug restart; |
| 02:46.16 | cat | joeyjones: adduser user account |
| 02:46.33 | joeyjones | what's account? |
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| 02:47.16 | cat | joeyjones: man adduser |
| 02:47.35 | pjv | how do i set webalizer to run and update every hour? |
| 02:47.36 | stazo | cat, thks for that but the proper way would be to fix it so it comes up alright after boot. btw, i have selected hotplugin the kernel config option. so hotplus id def on. |
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| 02:48.06 | cat | stazo: yeah but trust me, dude i always have mouse issues with my mouse, my self |
| 02:48.09 | cat | and i do that all the time, |
| 02:48.29 | joeyjones | pjv: create a cronjob |
| 02:48.52 | stazo | what i find disappointing is that even kernel-2.6.15 does not have usb mouse as a device option. this device has been around for so long now. |
| 02:49.49 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.52 | cat | stazo: modconf and should be there, |
| 02:50.01 | pjv | joeyjones: can you give me an example pls, cause i thought it had it's own daemon |
| 02:50.41 | stazo | cat don't get u on that modconf stuff. |
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| 02:50.56 | DragonD | Hello... |
| 02:51.04 | DragonD | Anyone here use wu-ftpd? |
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| 02:51.58 | joeyjones | pjv: create a cronjob to run webalizer |
| 02:52.02 | joeyjones | that's all i know |
| 02:52.09 | joeyjones | i was 1/2 asleep when i did it |
| 02:52.41 | Xenguy | DragonD: vsftpd is a better choice generally IMHO |
| 02:53.07 | DragonD | Xenguy: why? |
| 02:53.08 | pjv | joeyjones: how often did you set your webalizer to run? |
| 02:53.16 | joeyjones | every 5 minutes |
| 02:53.31 | stazo | cat, modconf is deprecated? it should be /etc/modules now. |
| 02:53.37 | pjv | ohh every 5 |
| 02:53.43 | pjv | ok i;ll set mine to that |
| 02:53.45 | Xenguy | DragonD: light-weight, the 'vs' stands for 'very secure', and a far better security history than wu |
| 02:53.49 | joeyjones | cat: how do i limit a user to having access to 1 folder only? |
| 02:54.09 | Xenguy | DragonD: YMMV of course |
| 02:54.18 | DragonD | YMMV? |
| 02:54.26 | Xenguy | !ymmv |
| 02:54.26 | dpkg | somebody said ymmv was your mileage may vary. [From 200 litres per km to 200 km per litre.], or http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/Y/YMMV.html |
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| 02:54.54 | stazo | seems like a new bunch of guys is holding sway here. what happen to guys like Guerin, deadcat, peterS, abrotman? |
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| 02:55.35 | stazo | has deadcat come alive to become 'cat'? |
| 02:56.26 | joeyjones | stazo: maybe you know about my question. |
| 02:56.35 | joeyjones | stazo: how do i limit a user to having access to 1 folder only? |
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| 02:56.58 | DragonD | what is deadcat? |
| 02:56.59 | stazo | joeyjones, let me see. |
| 02:57.00 | _Atomo64_ | joeyjones: change the CHMOD of that folder... or change the user/group, depending ... |
| 02:57.21 | joeyjones | i eman like viewing it |
| 02:57.29 | Xenguy | joeyjones: what folder? |
| 02:57.39 | Xenguy | er, directory |
| 02:57.43 | joeyjones | like every folder |
| 02:57.51 | joeyjones | except fro the 1 with access |
| 02:57.55 | Azar | joeyjones: try windows xp for folders |
| 02:58.00 | joeyjones | lol |
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| 02:58.03 | joeyjones | directory |
| 02:58.11 | stazo | joeyjones, sorry, no idea. |
| 02:58.24 | Azar | joeyjones: learn about groups |
| 02:58.25 | joeyjones | maybe proftpd would tell me how |
| 02:58.34 | joeyjones | but since it runs right from syste,m permissions |
| 02:58.44 | Xenguy | joeyjones: man chmod, or google 'linux chmod tutorial' -- that should give you the info |
| 02:58.46 | DragonD | Xenguy: what does this mean useing vsftpd 500 OOPS: cap_set_proc |
| 02:59.03 | stazo | DragonD, u don't know deadcat? u have not been around earlier to catch his rotten, stinking style. |
| 02:59.05 | Azar | joeyjones: get busy and learn: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/user/ch-files.html#s-files-devices |
| 02:59.24 | Xenguy | DragonD: looks like an error, but I haven't seen that before. What is the context? |
| 02:59.33 | Nurbs_ | joeyjones: look into its chroot capabilities |
| 03:00.04 | DragonD | Xenguy: login to ftp login successful the try to get list and get that |
| 03:00.19 | DragonD | stazo: what is deadcat? |
| 03:00.51 | stazo | DragonD, look up the chatter's list. |
| 03:01.14 | Xenguy | DragonD: hrm, permissions error? Is the ftp directory permissions 755 ? |
| 03:01.42 | Xenguy | DragonD: the perms should be correct by default tho AFAIK |
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| 03:04.14 | DragonD | Xenguy: any other ideas? |
| 03:04.36 | DragonD | Xenguy: pam service have any thing to do with it? |
| 03:04.57 | seilass | which idea |
| 03:05.16 | DragonD | ideas about that error? |
| 03:05.19 | Xenguy | DragonD: google the error message; vsftpd should work out of the box, after tweaking vsftpd.conf file |
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| 03:09.09 | DragonD | Xenguy: it may be a kernal module, at least it think not finding much with google like 75% of the results are in another language |
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| 03:10.50 | DragonD | Xenguy: btw i have a custom kernel for some reason. i don't remember why. but i needed it for something. |
| 03:11.19 | Xenguy | DragonD: I haven't a clue what is going on, sorry |
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| 03:12.31 | phogg | DragonD: man cap_set_proc |
| 03:12.36 | DragonD | how do i find out what kernel i running right now? |
| 03:12.43 | phogg | DragonD: uname -a |
| 03:12.45 | Xenguy | uname -a |
| 03:12.49 | phogg | or -r for just the version |
| 03:12.50 | DragonD | thanks |
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| 03:16.17 | _Atomo64_ | hi, I just compiled the kernel 2.6.15 with the bootsplash patch... now how can I make it add the splash img? |
| 03:17.06 | ceplma | /join #xorg |
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| 03:19.53 | wmhtet | is E17 out now? let me check |
| 03:20.13 | evilbulgarian | hi does anyone know if the mysql 5 patch for cacti is included in the cacti deb? |
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| 03:21.28 | mpoer | sorry, evilbulgarian. i've no idea. but if 5 is in stable and the patcg is new, probably not |
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| 03:21.38 | mpoer | *patch |
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| 03:21.53 | evilbulgarian | mpoer: yeah im using testing |
| 03:21.59 | jlamr | does anyone remeber the command to check available disk space? |
| 03:22.06 | mpoer | "df" |
| 03:22.10 | bimberi | df -h |
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| 03:22.33 | Led_Zeppelin | evilbulgarian: get postgresql :-) |
| 03:22.42 | jlamr | thanks guys |
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| 03:23.12 | m1ke_l | hi...when i do an apt-get install gnome on an itanium unstable install, i get missing dependancy errors |
| 03:23.14 | runer | evilbulgarian: lud li si ? :) |
| 03:23.18 | m1ke_l | does this mean no gnome for itanium? |
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| 03:23.29 | evilbulgarian | runer: haha da ot kade si? |
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| 03:23.40 | runer | am bulgarin sum :) |
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| 03:23.47 | runer | ama jiveq v Ispania :) |
| 03:23.48 | tchino | i have problems with my xmodmap under debian |
| 03:24.01 | evilbulgarian | runer: super ot kade vuv bulgaria si |
| 03:24.10 | runer | stara zagora |
| 03:24.26 | evilbulgarian | runer: ahh :) ot Pleven sum az |
| 03:24.34 | tchino | my kde not starting right, i can it start only over the text-console but not under kdm |
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| 03:24.48 | runer | evilbulgarian: priqtno mi e, Svetlio se kazvam |
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| 03:25.00 | Chief_ | hola , alguien habla español aca ???????????????? |
| 03:25.04 | mpoer | tchino, check x config |
| 03:25.05 | m1ke_l | anyone here speaking english? |
| 03:25.13 | runer | Chief_: yo |
| 03:25.16 | evilbulgarian | runer: i az Vladi :) |
| 03:25.18 | runer | Chief_: dime |
| 03:25.21 | Chief_ | hola runer |
| 03:25.34 | runer | Chief_: hola |
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| 03:25.38 | Chief_ | necesito alguna guia de instalacion de sid |
| 03:25.48 | Chief_ | ocea porque estoy medio perdido |
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| 03:26.08 | Chief_ | o ayuda para instalarlo |
| 03:26.20 | streuner_ | !es |
| 03:26.20 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:26.25 | mpoer | the debian install for sarge is pretty straight forward, Chief |
| 03:26.37 | zlirk | Hi, I have problems printing with OOo. All other apps works. I am using CUPS |
| 03:26.42 | tchino | mpoer: which xconfig? |
| 03:26.45 | runer | Chief_: yo puedo introducir tu pregunta aqui mismo a ver algien si responde |
| 03:26.52 | zlirk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.53 | LinuxNuBie | hi i have a laptop(Gateway 200arc) installed sarge but my display show only 800x600, i tried xf86config but still the same.... i'm very new guys :) |
| 03:27.00 | streuner_ | zlirk: well, it works here |
| 03:27.13 | mpoer | 'xorgconfig' or 'xf86config' depending on which X server you run |
| 03:27.14 | Chief_ | ocea primero tengo que instalar Sarge para luego instalar sid ????????????? |
| 03:27.22 | tchino | mpoer: it has problems after a debian upgrade |
| 03:27.23 | Chief_ | me voy a debian-es |
| 03:27.24 | mpoer | it is the configuration program for X Server |
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| 03:27.35 | mpoer | upgrade to testing or unstable, you mean? |
| 03:27.48 | tchino | mpoer: testing |
| 03:27.50 | streuner_ | zlirk: what version of debian? |
| 03:28.03 | zlirk | etch |
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| 03:28.28 | tchino | mpoer: i have xorg |
| 03:28.29 | mpoer | check /etc/X11 |
| 03:28.31 | streuner_ | CUPS-log files aren't helpful |
| 03:28.35 | zlirk | I printed just fine with the KDE tool, and also in Firefox |
| 03:28.41 | LinuxNuBie | anyhelp |
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| 03:29.02 | streuner_ | zlirk: and what does BTS say about? |
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| 03:29.21 | mpoer | can you bring up any sort of x display? |
| 03:29.25 | tchino | mpoer: and which? xorg.conf i get the message that xmodmap has 11 buttons instead 7 |
| 03:29.26 | mpoer | or are you stuck in terminal |
| 03:29.31 | zlirk | There is an old bug from 2004, but this was in OOo 1.X |
| 03:29.52 | tchino | mpoer: wait i login under debian |
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| 03:30.22 | mpoer | see if you can log in and then type 'startx' |
| 03:30.38 | mpoer | it'll start KDE (or w/e you use) or give you an error |
| 03:30.56 | zlirk | I also get this error : D [30/Mar/2006:22:22:50 -0500] [Job 29] ESP Ghostscript 815.01: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 |
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| 03:33.05 | varicello | fui instalar aqui o cedega, so q ele disse q ta faltando a xlibs, alguem sabe onde baixo? |
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| 03:33.12 | streuner_ | zlirk: how long do you run debian? |
| 03:33.40 | zlirk | One year |
| 03:33.57 | zlirk | longer as a secondary OS |
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| 03:33.59 | streuner_ | and only for desktop? |
| 03:34.09 | zlirk | laptop + few servers |
| 03:34.44 | mik1 | Hi, All . please help me, how do i configure the udev? |
| 03:34.54 | mik1 | to add a new device. |
| 03:35.03 | mik1 | example: my flash disk |
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| 03:35.46 | vin` | mik1: what does dmesg say when you plug it in? |
| 03:36.55 | mik1 | Hi, Vin: thank for your reply. I don't know. |
| 03:36.55 | tchino | mpoer: hello |
| 03:37.19 | mik1 | vin: and when I plug it in, dmesg will check out it ? |
| 03:37.29 | streuner_ | zlirk: well, the versions in unstable and testing aren't the same... |
| 03:37.30 | runer | varicello: vayase en #debian-es |
| 03:37.41 | mik1 | I rember my flash disk is a usb device. |
| 03:37.44 | tchino | mpoer: you are not here again |
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| 03:38.22 | jvives | hey all!!! I'm not sure where to ask this, so if you know where I can ask it, or the answere, please help. I'm using a SQL embedded's precompiler "ecpg", no problem using it, but when I try to compile the generated file using gcc, the compiler can't find some ecpg headers. They exist, and I found where they are, but I don't know how to add that path to the "searchables" folders, in order to have gcc look into that folder... h |
| 03:38.29 | zlirk | yes maybe I can try update to unstable... |
| 03:39.25 | vin` | zlirk: on the laptop, not on the server. ;) |
| 03:39.28 | tchino | i have problemsa to login in kde, since the last upgrade |
| 03:39.36 | LinuxNuBie | hi i have a laptop(Gateway 200arc) installed sarge but my display show only 800x600, i tried xf86config but still the same.... i'm very new guys :) |
| 03:39.49 | vin` | !drxx LinuxNuBie |
| 03:39.49 | dpkg | LinuxNuBie: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 03:40.04 | zlirk | yes well anyway I will only update OOo |
| 03:40.04 | streuner_ | WHO has on his server openoffice? |
| 03:40.49 | vin` | streuner_: does he? |
| 03:41.01 | zlirk | of course not |
| 03:41.09 | zlirk | :P |
| 03:42.20 | jvives | is there any tool like ldconfig but to use it with headers files? (not libraries) |
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| 03:43.21 | dondelelcaro | jvives: what exactly area you trying to do? |
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| 03:43.39 | tchino | the message is, xmodmap: commandline:1: bad number of buttons, must have 11 instead of 7 |
| 03:43.50 | g3brown | I shelled into Sarge 3.1. Where can I look to determine what was chosen for the xserver video card (ie ati or vesa)? |
| 03:43.55 | tchino | i have a explorer 2.0 mouse of microsoft |
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| 03:43.59 | dondelelcaro | jvives: if you want to add more paths to the include path for gcc, use the -I option to gcc. |
| 03:44.14 | dondelelcaro | g3brown: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 03:44.27 | jvives | dondelelcaro: I just posted the question, scroll up a few lines, where it says "<jvives> hey all!!!" |
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| 03:44.39 | dondelelcaro | jvives: yes, I saw... and I answered... |
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| 03:45.22 | jvives | dondelelcaro but I what to add the path for good, not to use the flag everytime I whant to compile that kind of proyect |
| 03:45.40 | g3brown | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 03:45.58 | dondelelcaro | jvives: that's why you use a makefile, which sets the CFLAGS appropriately. |
| 03:46.12 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone here ever do a Debian PXEBoot? |
| 03:47.18 | zlirk | Led_Zepplin : yes me |
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| 03:47.44 | Led_Zeppelin | zlirk: okay, do you have a router on your network? |
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| 03:48.07 | zlirk | Led_Zepplin : yes, I use lessdisk |
| 03:48.17 | jvives | dondelelcaro: I am familiar with makefile too, but to me it seems like an unconfigured issue... I mean, when I installed ecpg no one "told" gcc that there where new headers that could be called by someone... They are part of the system, they don't belong to my proyect... I don't know if you get the idea... |
| 03:48.19 | DragonD | Is there an log analizer that will email me daily stats like failed logins and such? |
| 03:48.25 | Led_Zeppelin | zlirk: no, I am talking about a hardware router like Netgear, or Linksys |
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| 03:48.49 | zlirk | Led_Zepplin : yes, but I use it as a switch + wifi brige only |
| 03:48.51 | Jacobo221 | which mplayer driver is better: xv or gl2 ? |
| 03:49.01 | dondelelcaro | jvives: if the headers should exist system wide, then they need to be installed in /usr/include or /usr/local/include; otherwise, you have to pass -I appropriatley. |
| 03:49.07 | Led_Zeppelin | zlirk: okay, tftp work thru a router like that? |
| 03:49.24 | zlirk | Led_Zepplin : yes, as long as you stay on the LAN side |
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| 03:49.46 | jvives | dondelelcaro: can I use simbolic links for that? |
| 03:49.54 | dondelelcaro | jvives: yes, but that's really ugly. |
| 03:50.02 | Led_Zeppelin | zlirk: yes on the LAN side. Do I have to configure a DHCP sever? My router already has DHCP |
| 03:50.05 | jvives | should I copy them then? |
| 03:50.08 | jvives | mv, sorry |
| 03:50.09 | dondelelcaro | jvives: make a debian package out of this ecpg thing's headers, and install them. |
| 03:50.23 | streuner_ | zlirk: there is #debian-oo too, _rene_ is the maint of oo |
| 03:50.27 | hachi | what package creates all the /usr/bin symlinks to the /etc/alternatives tree? for some reason they don't exist on this image I'm playing on and I need to recreate them |
| 03:50.31 | zlirk | Led_Zepplin : yo need to configure special features of your DHCP server |
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| 03:51.02 | jvives | dondelelcaro: there is a deb, I used it to install the thing, is part of "postgresql-dev" package |
| 03:51.08 | Led_Zeppelin | zlirk: i don't have a DHCP server. I guess I need to create one on my 'server' box, then right? Do I need to disable anything on the router (NetGear) side then? |
| 03:51.17 | ifup | I have never used module assistant when I do it complains about unconfigured kernel source! I am running SID with the 2.6.16-1 kernel I am not sure why as I have the headers and the source |
| 03:51.19 | DragonD | Is there an log analizer that will email me daily stats like failed logins and such? |
| 03:51.45 | zlirk | Led_Zepplin : The easyest thing is to disable DHCP server on router, and enable it on your server |
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| 03:52.08 | itguy | !info ssh |
| 03:52.14 | dpkg | ssh: (Secure shell client and server (transitional package)), section net, is extra. Version: 1:4.2p1-7 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 32 kB |
| 03:52.18 | bucky | !beer zlirk |
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| 03:53.23 | vin` | DragonD: logwatch, logcheck etc. |
| 03:54.06 | itguy | what should i do after apt-cache search 'name' |
| 03:54.22 | vin` | !agi foo |
| 03:54.22 | dpkg | aptitude install foo |
| 03:54.37 | streuner_ | itguy: depends what you want |
| 03:54.56 | zlirk | Led_Zepplin : yo need something like that : |
| 03:55.00 | zlirk | allow booting; |
| 03:55.04 | zlirk | allow bootp; |
| 03:55.05 | zlirk | authoritative; |
| 03:55.05 | zlirk | subnet 192.168.3.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { |
| 03:55.05 | zlirk | next-server 192.168.3.1; |
| 03:55.05 | zlirk | filename "pxelinux.0"; |
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| 03:55.11 | itguy | i want to get putty |
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| 03:55.21 | streuner_ | itguy: apt-get install putty? |
| 03:55.22 | vin` | itguy: why? |
| 03:55.34 | hachi | anyone know how I can look up what package is responsible for symlinks like /usr/bin/awk and /usr/bin/pager ? |
| 03:56.02 | streuner_ | zlirk: paste.debian.net or just us#flood |
| 03:56.15 | streuner_ | zlirk: use #flood* |
| 03:56.20 | zlirk | streuner_: yes sorry... |
| 03:56.28 | itguy | i want to remote connect from my work to my debian box at home and someone here adviced me to use putty |
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| 03:57.41 | zlirk | streuner_: Doesn't work even in OOo 2.0.2 |
| 03:58.00 | powder | howdy all. how can i see if dma is enabled on my cd-rw drive? |
| 03:58.01 | streuner_ | !info openoffice.org |
| 03:58.06 | dpkg | openoffice.org: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 2.0.2-2 (sid), Packaged size: 87 kB, Installed size: 208 kB |
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| 03:58.09 | DragonD | vin`: i just installed logwatch and i run it and it shows nothing |
| 03:58.09 | zlirk | hdparm -d /dev/hdX |
| 03:58.23 | fndude | Hey, I have a new smp machine, a dual core xeon, how many processors should I be looking at /proc/cpuinfo? |
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| 03:59.03 | zlirk | 8 if you have a dual CPU dual core HT |
| 03:59.27 | itguy | vin`: i want to remote connect from my work to my debian box at home and someone here adviced me to use putty |
| 03:59.29 | bucky | 4 for each core? |
| 03:59.50 | zlirk | 4 for each CPU, 2 for each core |
| 04:00.05 | vin` | itguy: both run debian? |
| 04:00.10 | fndude | So I have HT enabled, on my newer smp machine it is only showing 2 cpu's per processors, its dual core. On my older duely it looks aok. |
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| 04:00.47 | zlirk | fndude: check in your bios for HT |
| 04:00.48 | bucky | itguy, good.. make sure you have the ssh deamon running on your debian box and port 22 forwarded to it |
| 04:00.49 | fndude | Do the newer Dual core chips look diff then the older ht non dual cores? |
| 04:00.51 | powder | zlirk, thanks :) |
| 04:01.14 | volcom_b0i | Putty will allow you to SSH into a nix box using WIndows. |
| 04:01.15 | fndude | zlirk: ya know I compiled the kernel, and never looked at the bios. Sheeshe. |
| 04:01.20 | fndude | thanks. |
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| 04:01.41 | vin` | volcom_b0i: that was my doubt, why is he searching for putty on debian? |
| 04:01.42 | volcom_b0i | At least thats what I've used it for. |
| 04:01.45 | bucky | putty is a linux client too.. |
| 04:01.46 | zlirk | fndude: some apps works better with HT off |
| 04:02.06 | vin` | bucky: pointless. |
| 04:02.29 | bucky | vin`, i don't know.. he's asked about three times now |
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| 04:03.17 | Led_Zeppelin1 | zlirk: sorry, I was kicked off (had to reconfigure my router) |
| 04:03.19 | itguy | bucky: see i don't know how? and i don't know where to start...i will really appreciate it if you guide me |
| 04:03.23 | Led_Zeppelin1 | zlirk: can you please repost what you said? |
| 04:03.30 | itguy | bucky: like what is the first thing i need to do |
| 04:03.55 | bucky | itguy, are you at work now on a windows box now |
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| 04:04.13 | itguy | bucky: no...give me 5 min |
| 04:04.19 | itguy | bucky: please |
| 04:04.36 | zlirk | Led_Zepplin1: go to channel #flood* |
| 04:04.54 | streuner_ | zlirk: what's in the menu of CUPS http://localhost:631 (jobs)? |
| 04:05.13 | itguy | bucky: i am on my debian now |
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| 04:05.24 | streuner_ | zlirk: #flood |
| 04:05.24 | zlirk | streuner_: it's the normal cups web page |
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| 04:05.34 | Fluten | when i sometimes mount cds, i get files full of ????????????? marks on the cd. could this be because of copy protection? |
| 04:05.34 | bucky | dpkg -l ssh does it show ii for installed? |
| 04:05.34 | dpkg | ii ssh does it show ii for installed 1.3-3 bucky's private stamp collection |
| 04:05.38 | itguy | bucky: but i have another box , with linux |
| 04:05.51 | streuner_ | zlirk: so no jobs aren't not done? |
| 04:05.59 | bucky | itguy, do you have ssh installed? |
| 04:06.36 | streuner_ | zlirk: all jobs are done, or are they some jobs which aren't finished? |
| 04:06.36 | bucky | itguy, ps aux |grep ssh is it running? |
| 04:06.53 | zlirk | streuner_: all done |
| 04:07.10 | streuner_ | zlirk: and running a test page works too? |
| 04:07.33 | zlirk | streuner_: Test page of the KDE control panel works. I also printed a page from Firefox |
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| 04:08.01 | streuner_ | zlirk: do you have the CUPS packages also upgraded? |
| 04:08.15 | zlirk | streuner_: no |
| 04:08.17 | streuner_ | zlirk: /etc/init.d/cupsys restart |
| 04:08.22 | streuner_ | try that too |
| 04:08.35 | zlirk | streuner_: testing is the latest version |
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| 04:09.50 | zlirk | streuner_: the printer is on a samba server, but I got the same problem with a remote lpr queue |
| 04:09.58 | itguy | bucky: ' '/usr/bin/ssh-agent x-session-manager |
| 04:10.00 | streuner_ | hm |
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| 04:10.37 | bucky | itguy, good does your debian box connect to the internet thru a dsl modem or something? |
| 04:11.00 | itguy | bucky: yes |
| 04:11.14 | itguy | bucky: dsl modem |
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| 04:11.43 | bucky | itguy, you'll have to configure the dsl modem to forward TCP port 22 to your debian box's ip address |
| 04:12.05 | imageek | ok i am trying to get my x to work with xinerama. i have one intell card with analog output and like an addon card for the same chipset with a DVI output, and i get the display to show up on both screens, but its just a mirrored display. Can anyone help? |
| 04:12.18 | itguy | bucky: ok....and then |
| 04:12.32 | volcom_b0i | itguy: make sure you secure your box, everyone in their mother will be trying to ssh into it. Atleast get denyhosts. |
| 04:12.35 | norskfjord | [00:04] Tcl error [pub_nslookup]: couldn't execute "/usr/bin/nslookup": no such file or directory |
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| 04:12.50 | bucky | itguy, go to work, install putty and putty into your dsl modem's ip address |
| 04:13.35 | itguy | volcom_b0i: bucky : can you help me on how to secure my box |
| 04:13.36 | volcom_b0i | itguy: check this out before you expose your box to the world http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch1.en.html |
| 04:14.06 | volcom_b0i | itguy: that is a whole how-to for securing your debian box man |
| 04:14.12 | zlirk | streuner_: printing to a ps file works |
| 04:14.51 | itguy | volcom_b0i: thank you so much for beeing so kind, i really appreciate it |
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| 04:15.06 | itguy | bucky: you too thank you so much |
| 04:15.12 | bucky | itguy, if you're behind a dsl modem router you should be somewhat safe.. but you should use a good password on your user and root accounts because there are dictionary attacks on port 22 |
| 04:15.15 | volcom_b0i | itguy: make sure you check your logs, especially /var/log/auth.log |
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| 04:16.42 | itguy | volcom_b0i: i really want to understand all this and iam trying to read but every time i open some manual it's like an ocean and link here and there |
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| 04:17.05 | _Atomo64_ | Where can I get the bootsplash package? it is mentioned by kernel-patch-bootsplash |
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| 04:17.27 | itguy | volcom_b0i: is it okay , if i took like sometime , i really need to go to the market and get me dinner, are you going to be around? |
| 04:17.41 | unperson | In /etc/passwd, should the shell for "nobody" be set to /bin/sh or /bin/false? |
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| 04:18.02 | gboutwel1 | How can I disable ipv6 address on an interface without disabling it over all for the whole system? |
| 04:18.44 | volcom_b0i | itguy: I need to get to sleep, I have class tomorrow. But if you atleast check out the section on SSH on that site, you should be okay. Be sure to look up denyhosts, i believe it is in debian unstable, it will block IP addressed when they try to brute force your box |
| 04:19.44 | zlirk | unperson: I have /bin/sh |
| 04:20.11 | imageek | ok i am trying to get my x to work with xinerama. i have one intell card with analog output and like an addon card for the same chipset with a DVI output, and i get the display to show up on both screens, but its just a mirrored display. Can anyone help? |
| 04:21.04 | volcom_b0i | itguy: the ssh section is part 5 in the links up top. |
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| 04:23.30 | unperson | zlink: I see, thanks. |
| 04:23.39 | itguy | volcom_b0i: thank you, and u have a good night |
| 04:23.50 | unperson | I had assumed nobody was designed to be a completely unprivlaged account. I guess not. |
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| 04:24.30 | evilbulgarian | ok, when i add a data template to cacti it is not listed in the data template list but i can see it int the database under data_templates. Can someone please help!? |
| 04:24.44 | illsci | hey do you know if there is a debian silc client deb form amd64 debian testing?..... |
| 04:24.57 | volcom_b0i | itguy: same to you, good luck! |
| 04:25.12 | gboutwel1 | How can I disable ipv6 address on an interface without disabling it over all for the whole system on boot? |
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| 04:25.29 | illsci | does anyone here use silc? |
| 04:25.36 | zlirk | streuner_: seems that I can't print with lpr |
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| 04:26.11 | zlirk | streuner_: that is probably the cause of the problem |
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| 04:28.39 | fedya | just running an iptables -A command is going to save the rule or do i need to put the rule into a startup script somewhere? |
| 04:29.50 | gboutwel1 | fedya: as I understand it you'd have to put it in a start-up script or never reboot or never run iptables -F |
| 04:30.25 | bucky | fedya, zless /usr/share/doc/iptables/examples/oldinitdscript.gz for the old fashioned icky way |
| 04:30.47 | SavannahLion | How do I figure out which video driver Linux is using? |
| 04:31.02 | imageek | fedya, make sure iptables is starting with yoru init scripts and run an "iptables-save outfile" and then make sure the intit script is calling "iptables-restore outfile" |
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| 04:31.11 | dos000_ | bucky, why is icky i just dont get it ! |
| 04:31.31 | illsci | fedya |
| 04:31.33 | bucky | dos000, because everytime i suggest that people give me a rash of shit |
| 04:31.44 | illsci | put it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:31.50 | bucky | and that's why i like it so much |
| 04:31.52 | illsci | read the doc in /usr/share/doc/iptables/ |
| 04:32.03 | illsci | you can do like pre-up iptables -A whatever |
| 04:32.10 | SavannahLion | I thought I remember some place where I could verify which drivers Linux is using, but I can't seem to remember where it is |
| 04:32.37 | illsci | or have it call a script... the /etc/init.d/ startup script is in there too but i guess its depreciated or something |
| 04:32.50 | bucky | SavannahLion, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 04:33.05 | bucky | or XFree86.0.log |
| 04:33.39 | [Thom] | I need to install Apache as a reverse-proxy to IIS 6.0, should I use apache-ssl or mod-ssl ? |
| 04:33.47 | SavannahLion | Now I remember why it was so much of a hassle it was before. ugh |
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| 04:33.58 | vrt | hello all, |
| 04:34.21 | vrt | i have ipsec running(compiled into kernel 2.6.8) - i see pluto running at startup |
| 04:34.27 | vrt | but no entries in /proc/sys/net/ |
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| 04:34.33 | vrt | is this expected?? |
| 04:34.49 | bucky | SavannahLion, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 is that a hassle? |
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| 04:35.33 | SavannahLion | Bucky. Not that, I'm using nVidia drivers and every time someone somewhere updates some component, I have to go through and verify settings and versions |
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| 04:35.38 | [Thom] | Anyone? |
| 04:35.43 | bucky | ic |
| 04:36.05 | bucky | [Thom], those are for apache 1.3 you know that right? |
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| 04:36.34 | [Thom] | Not apache 2? I didn't know that, no. |
| 04:36.50 | [Thom] | Are there different mods for apache2? |
| 04:36.50 | SavannahLion | Usually it seems the relationship between my linux kernel and the nVidia drivers break when there's an update |
| 04:36.51 | bucky | [Thom], google for apache2+ssl+debian |
| 04:36.58 | bucky | there's a couple of how tos |
| 04:37.03 | [Thom] | Okay, thanks. |
| 04:37.19 | tsukihime | can anyone tell me how is the alsa line thing is, to get well configured alsa with udev??? |
| 04:37.29 | hanasaki | i am tyring to get the 2006 key and am behind a firewall gpg is not using the http_proxy setting from my environment |
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| 04:37.41 | [Thom] | bucky have you ever set up a proxy like I'm trying to do? |
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| 04:37.49 | bucky | SavannahLion, that's the nature of linux.. update the kernel - update the video driver |
| 04:37.51 | [Thom] | Apache through to IIS...? |
| 04:37.55 | bucky | no |
| 04:38.28 | hanasaki | how can i get gpg to work through my http proxy? |
| 04:39.37 | SavannahLion | bucky, to clarify, I'm using a mess of software involving Cedega and Steam along with Linux and the nVidia drivers. Because of the nature of Steam and the ease of updating with Debian, when something breaks it's a royal pain to figure out *what* broke so *it* can be fixed. |
| 04:40.00 | bucky | SavannahLion, i always pin my kernel so i won't update |
| 04:40.06 | SavannahLion | what's pin? |
| 04:40.52 | SavannahLion | Or maybe I should ask how you pin a kernel. I've never heard of anyone saying that |
| 04:41.20 | bucky | SavannahLion, basically http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html but i just apt-get install wajig and use wajig hold linux-image |
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| 04:43.26 | SavannahLion | bucky, what happens if a framework changes between a package in unstable and pinning grabs a dependency from stable? |
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| 04:44.19 | bucky | SavannahLion, you don't ever have stable and unstable repos in sources.list the two don't work together |
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| 04:45.27 | SavannahLion | so apt-get -t unstable install will always try to grab unstable package dependencies for an unstable package even if there.... nvm... I get it |
| 04:45.52 | SavannahLion | I don't know if I'm ready for something like that, but I'll chew it over |
| 04:47.00 | OliverKlozoff | wtf is the deal with the Super Cow Powers? |
| 04:47.08 | hanasaki | how do i fix the eorror of NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 04:47.08 | hanasaki | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.17 | bucky | OliverKlozoff, apt-get moo |
| 04:47.20 | dos000_ | how can one automate copying files to a remote host whithout leaving the remote host passwd in one of the config files ? |
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| 04:47.58 | OliverKlozoff | yes, i know that |
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| 04:48.06 | OliverKlozoff | but... WHY |
| 04:48.16 | bucky | because... it's there |
| 04:48.54 | gboutwel1 | Is there an way to disable ipv6 on a specific interface? |
| 04:48.58 | OliverKlozoff | dos000: pubkey auth is nice |
| 04:49.34 | OliverKlozoff | gboutwel1: You could not give it an ipv6 address |
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| 04:50.09 | gboutwel1 | OliverKlozoff: It's giving it an ipv6 address... I didn't configure it to do that. |
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| 04:50.20 | joeyjones | how do i make it so that a user can only acces 1 directory? |
| 04:50.20 | OliverKlozoff | what's giving it an ipv6 address? |
| 04:50.31 | dos000_ | OliverKlozoff, i am checking it out .. |
| 04:50.36 | fedya | what does iptables -F do exactly? |
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| 04:50.48 | bucky | flush |
| 04:50.54 | fedya | i just thought i flushed the firewall rules and now the server isn't responding anymore... |
| 04:51.03 | fedya | OH SHIT |
| 04:51.10 | OliverKlozoff | if you were -P DENY |
| 04:51.11 | fedya | oh great |
| 04:51.13 | fedya | yep |
| 04:51.15 | OliverKlozoff | which you should have been |
| 04:51.19 | fedya | greattt |
| 04:51.24 | fedya | no more incoming connections |
| 04:51.30 | fedya | sweettt |
| 04:51.33 | OliverKlozoff | no more anything |
| 04:51.36 | fedya | yep |
| 04:51.40 | fedya | now i'm screwed |
| 04:51.58 | OliverKlozoff | http://bash.org/?106768 |
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| 04:52.42 | fedya | if i don't do iptables-save does it flush on reboot as well? |
| 04:53.04 | OliverKlozoff | that'd be the expected behavior |
| 04:53.13 | fedya | well this is just awesome |
| 04:53.17 | fedya | i'm going to get bitched out tomorrow |
| 04:53.24 | fedya | or as soon as someone realizes their site is down |
| 04:53.27 | joeyjones | how do i make it so that a user can only acces 1 directory? |
| 04:53.59 | fedya | i was goign ot take the firewall down to see why ftp wasn't working, it would time out trying to connect, even though the port was open |
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| 04:54.14 | streuner | joeyjones: via permissions |
| 04:54.38 | streuner | joeyjones: read FAQ mentioned in /topic |
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| 04:55.25 | Stevie-O | streuner: You think chmod go-x /* might do the trick? :-D |
| 04:56.05 | Canna | does dpkg -i whatever.deb ever actually work? The dependencies seem messed up, is it that i cant run the programs im trying to in the stable version |
| 04:56.22 | Stevie-O | Canna: "messed up"? |
| 04:56.26 | Stevie-O | is that a technical term? |
| 04:56.43 | joeyjones | streuner: that's just chmod, i mean like not being able to open any other directories |
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| 04:57.22 | Stevie-O | I think chmod go-x /* would accomplish that task :) |
| 04:57.27 | Canna | i think i figured it out |
| 04:57.29 | valdyn | joeyjones: why would you do that? |
| 04:57.36 | Canna | they want versions of the software that are too new |
| 04:57.58 | Stevie-O | who's they? |
| 04:58.01 | Canna | because im running stable i think... when i apt-get the dependencies they are already the highest version |
| 04:58.03 | joeyjones | my ftp server works from linux access rules |
| 04:58.17 | Canna | they = dependencies |
| 04:58.27 | joeyjones | unless you know how to do it in proftpd? |
| 04:58.37 | Stevie-O | the dependencies want versions of software that are too new? |
| 04:59.04 | Canna | yes, of about 10 things |
| 04:59.14 | valdyn | !wayttd Canna |
| 04:59.14 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Canna? |
| 04:59.18 | Stevie-O | dependencies are not people |
| 04:59.26 | Stevie-O | they are not sentient |
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| 04:59.32 | Stevie-O | therefore they don't "want" anything |
| 04:59.45 | Canna | i was trying to install gimp-greycstoration |
| 04:59.56 | Stevie-O | at least, no more than my tv wants electricity |
| 05:00.06 | p1u70 | hi i just install junior-programming ,but i don t how to start it?where is it ? |
| 05:00.08 | joeyjones | valdyn: my ftp server works from linux access rules |
| 05:00.15 | Canna | please argue semantics with someone else, im trying to get some things done, sorry |
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| 05:00.26 | valdyn | joeyjones: configure it to chroot the users |
| 05:00.36 | valdyn | joeyjones: and dont mess with permissions |
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| 05:01.16 | tsukihime | "/usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1163: No soundcards found..." that was when i ran alsaconf, can anyone help me? |
| 05:01.20 | Stevie-O | Canna: The problem is that I don't understand the semantics you're using. If you want to get something done, and you need someone else's help to do it, miscommunication is a bad place to start |
| 05:01.20 | streuner | !unix lessons |
| 05:01.20 | dpkg | i guess unix lessons is (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't be root when you don't have to be |
| 05:01.24 | Canna | im sorry, but I am using the first word that comes to mind, im sure you can understand, and at this point it is better than sitting here trying to think of how I would type it if I had to write up a paper or something |
| 05:01.34 | tsukihime | "/usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1163: No soundcards found..." that was when i ran alsaconf, can anyone help me? |
| 05:02.21 | Canna | when i say the dependencies want something, i simply mean that I am getting errors trying to install that are saying x needs to be >= whatever.version but will NOT be installed |
| 05:02.26 | valdyn | Canna: you need to cut and paste, not to tell us a story |
| 05:03.07 | streuner | valdyn: good morning ;-) |
| 05:03.15 | valdyn | streuner: morning |
| 05:03.26 | joeyjones | valdyn: how would chroot work for this? |
| 05:03.39 | Canna | ok, i didnt think it was that out of the ordinary but ill copy paste |
| 05:03.49 | Canna | can someone link me to the paster |
| 05:03.52 | Canna | i forgot it |
| 05:03.53 | valdyn | joeyjones: look into your ftp servers manual, you dont use chroot yourself, the ftp server does |
| 05:03.54 | Stevie-O | !paste |
| 05:03.54 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 05:05.13 | tsukihime | "/usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1163: No soundcards found..." that was when i ran alsaconf, can anyone help me? |
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| 05:05.28 | streuner | Is the soundcard supported by ALSA? |
| 05:05.33 | litage | how can one prevent a user from changing their password? |
| 05:05.48 | streuner | heh |
| 05:06.21 | Canna | http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 05:06.27 | Canna | sorry |
| 05:06.31 | Canna | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2265 |
| 05:06.52 | Underpants | hello. |
| 05:07.54 | streuner | tsukihime: cat /proc/version |
| 05:07.56 | Canna | is that all just due to the fact that I am running stable |
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| 05:08.54 | itguy | what is logbook? how can i activate it? how can i benifit from it? |
| 05:08.57 | joeyjones | valdyn: you're my hero!!! |
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| 05:09.49 | streuner | heros are made by gov. not users ;-) |
| 05:09.56 | joeyjones | valdyn: is it possiblt to set home dir to root? |
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| 05:10.49 | tsukihime | "/usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1163: No soundcards found..." that was when i ran alsaconf, can anyone help me? |
| 05:10.57 | streuner | tsukihime: cat /proc/version |
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| 05:12.09 | raden | ls |
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| 05:12.26 | joeyjones | streuner: is it possiblt to set home dir to root? |
| 05:12.35 | raden | is there a way to search for a word in like 100 files ? with 1 command ? |
| 05:12.39 | raden | searching logs |
| 05:12.51 | streuner | joeyjones: why do you want this? |
| 05:13.10 | Underpants | ~[ raden ]~ are they named consecutively? |
| 05:13.13 | apt | Underpants: okay |
| 05:13.15 | joeyjones | so i can use my main accoutn through ftp to access everything |
| 05:13.27 | tsukihime | Streuner: Linux version 2.6.12-1-686-smp (Debian 2.6.12-1) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 3.4.3 (Debian 3.4.3-1)) #1 SMP Tue Mar 28 15:54:35 UTC 2006 |
| 05:13.29 | Underpants | ~[ apt ]~ who are you? |
| 05:13.32 | apt | okay, Underpants |
| 05:13.34 | joeyjones | since chroot locks to home |
| 05:13.51 | bucky | apt is a bot |
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| 05:14.02 | Underpants | is he always this chatty? |
| 05:14.19 | streuner | joeyjones: and what soundcard do you use? (lspci -v | grep -i audio) |
| 05:14.20 | bucky | only when you precede something with a tilde ~ |
| 05:14.27 | Underpants | ahh. |
| 05:14.28 | joeyjones | lol |
| 05:14.33 | joeyjones | none |
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| 05:14.41 | BiRD | how do i search for a file or folder I know the name of |
| 05:14.49 | tsukihime | streuner: you mean me?? o.o |
| 05:15.00 | streuner | tsuk: yes |
| 05:15.07 | streuner | tsukihime: yes |
| 05:15.08 | joeyjones | lol |
| 05:15.17 | joeyjones | streuner: anything for me? |
| 05:15.18 | tsukihime | streuner: 0000:02:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic Crystal CS4281 PCI Audio (rev 01) |
| 05:15.37 | streuner | Underpants: using ~ is a command for apt (bot)... |
| 05:15.47 | Underpants | i |
| 05:15.58 | Underpants | i'll have to get excursion to stop doing that |
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| 05:16.13 | Underpants | ~[ streuner ]~ |
| 05:16.16 | Underpants | hmm. |
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| 05:16.26 | streuner | tsukihime: is there a ALSA modul for 'CS4281'? |
| 05:16.33 | bucky | tsukihime, do you really need an smp kernel ? |
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| 05:16.53 | tsukihime | bucky: it says smp is for P4, and i have a P4.... |
| 05:16.54 | streuner | Underpants: Don't use ~ in fron of any line here |
| 05:17.08 | streuner | !smp |
| 05:17.08 | dpkg | smp is, like, (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.phy.duke.edu/brahma/smp-faq/, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4's, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing |
| 05:17.11 | tsukihime | streuner: ig i have it, or if it exist?? ;D |
| 05:17.28 | bucky | tsukihime, is it a hyperthreading P4 ? |
| 05:17.39 | Canna | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2265 <--- guys is that normal on sarge since its not unstable |
| 05:17.43 | lofdev | anyone have any problems upgrading to 2.6.16-1-686??? I've got a problem with yaird failing to create initrd. |
| 05:17.48 | tsukihime | bucky: it is just a normal p4...... |
| 05:17.52 | streuner | tsukihime: well, look in the module path of that kernel |
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| 05:18.16 | tsukihime | streuner: hmm, i dont know how ..... |
| 05:18.26 | bucky | tsukihime, you might be having some strange interaction with the smp kernel... just a guess |
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| 05:18.50 | streuner | tsukihime: cd /lib/modules/2.6.12 |
| 05:18.58 | tsukihime | bucky: mmmmm it just have worked like others kernels, seems normal to me .... |
| 05:19.13 | streuner | tsukihime: or just grep the config (/boot) with that string |
| 05:19.49 | tsukihime | streuner: i did the cd thingie |
| 05:20.01 | tsukihime | streuner: now what?? o.o.... |
| 05:20.15 | joeyjones | valdyn: so there's no way to do that? |
| 05:20.26 | streuner | tsukihime: try modprobe the module by hand |
| 05:20.52 | streuner | tsukihime: something like 'modprobe snd-cs4+++' |
| 05:22.05 | tsukihime | streuner: nothing happened |
| 05:22.21 | bucky | modprobe snd-cs4281 ? |
| 05:22.31 | tsukihime | passed to another command line |
| 05:22.38 | bucky | prolly loaded it |
| 05:22.50 | bucky | lsmod and see |
| 05:23.57 | tsukihime | mmm...... can see a lot of thing with 0% of understanding, the only thing i can say is that still got no sound.... |
| 05:24.16 | streuner | tsukihime: did you use OSS before? |
| 05:24.24 | tsukihime | net installed... |
| 05:24.26 | bucky | no snd_cs4281 ? |
| 05:24.40 | bucky | lsmod |grep snd_cs4281 |
| 05:24.46 | tsukihime | in modules no, in used by yes |
| 05:25.14 | bucky | does alsaconf work now? |
| 05:25.45 | tsukihime | go to flood please |
| 05:25.45 | tsukihime | bucky: still getting same error when ending |
| 05:25.46 | lofdev | has anyone seen errors in the package linux-image-2.6.16-1-686????? |
| 05:25.58 | tsukihime | lofdev: not me |
| 05:26.15 | streuner | lofdev: BTS? |
| 05:26.26 | bucky | tsukihime, i think you have the wrong kernel.. i don't know why it's doing that |
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| 05:26.32 | lofdev | streuner: BTS??? |
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| 05:26.46 | bucky | !bts |
| 05:26.46 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 05:26.57 | Sebzy | hello |
| 05:27.04 | tsukihime | bucky: it worked before, another dude helped me, but i forgot what we did ;P |
| 05:27.23 | bucky | hmm.. i don't know |
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| 05:27.49 | streuner | !tell lofdev about bts |
| 05:27.58 | lofdev | streuner: on my desktop screen. nothing helpful that I've found, yet. |
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| 05:28.28 | Sebzy | hey i need a had with networking |
| 05:28.32 | Sebzy | *hand |
| 05:28.37 | streuner | damn, you are pretty fast |
| 05:28.56 | Sebzy | ? |
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| 05:29.13 | Sebzy | ohh |
| 05:29.16 | Sebzy | lol |
| 05:29.23 | Nopalin | Sebzy: whats ur problem? |
| 05:29.43 | Sebzy | cant connect to debain comp from win xp |
| 05:29.49 | streuner | tsukihime: just paste the output of the grep command in #flood again, please. |
| 05:29.57 | evilbulgarian | ok, when i add a data template to cacti it is not listed in the data template list but i can see it int the database under data_templates. Can someone please help!? |
| 05:30.08 | streuner | Sebzy: sounds like a windows problem then |
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| 05:30.20 | Sebzy | well keeps refusing my password |
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| 05:30.25 | Nopalin | Sebzy: you want share files from debian to windows? |
| 05:30.30 | Sebzy | yeah |
| 05:30.32 | stoned | Sebzy, what do you mean not ocnnect, share files, or not even ping it? |
| 05:30.40 | stoned | Sebzy, you might look into samba |
| 05:30.41 | Nopalin | Sebzy you need configure samba |
| 05:30.44 | lofdev | streuner: the only bug I found is tagged resolved, but did not fix the problem, so I am here asking if anyone has had issues. |
| 05:30.44 | Sebzy | well havent tryed pinging it |
| 05:30.44 | streuner | Sebzy: samba |
| 05:30.51 | Sebzy | yeah i have it installed |
| 05:30.56 | JerJer[mobile] | anyone have a link on how i can setup my own private 'net install' repository ? |
| 05:30.56 | Sebzy | ok |
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| 05:31.09 | pmallapp | hi all |
| 05:31.13 | Sebzy | any clue where to start? |
| 05:31.16 | streuner | !own repo |
| 05:31.17 | dpkg | Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./"; |
| 05:31.20 | stoned | Seb, apt-get install samba smbclient smbfs && nano /etc/samba/smb.conf (edit this file and check out #samba or www.samba.org) |
| 05:31.21 | Nopalin | Sebzy: first, winxp machine ping debian? |
| 05:31.26 | hanasaki | how do i fix this.. its from gxine on gnome can't create mcop directory |
| 05:31.35 | JerJer[mobile] | streuner: thank you much |
| 05:31.38 | Sebzy | well i know its connected cos the webservers up |
| 05:32.03 | pmallapp | i was looking for blackdown java 1.5 download, as the status for amd64 java 1.5 on blackdown site says its working, anyone help me with getting the binaries |
| 05:32.12 | Sebzy | but i cant gain acces to files from debain from xp but i can vica versa |
| 05:32.18 | stoned | Sebzy, after you have edited the file and saved it, type /etc/init.d/samba restart. Then type smbpasswd -a (here type the username of the user that exists on linux machine) |
| 05:32.20 | hanasaki | pmallapp: why not use the sun jdk |
| 05:32.26 | itguy | what do i need to do to read this please 'Linux+Windows-HOWTO.gz" |
| 05:32.36 | streuner | itguy: zless |
| 05:32.36 | unstable | pmallapp: What are you trying to do that requires java? |
| 05:32.38 | pmallapp | hanasaki, no mozilla/firefox 64-bit plugin |
| 05:32.52 | hanasaki | pmallapp: doesnt work from sun? |
| 05:32.52 | nvz | pmallapp: use java-package |
| 05:32.52 | itguy | streuner: ?? |
| 05:33.04 | streuner | itguy: comamand zless |
| 05:33.09 | nvz | pmallapp: to build your own from sun |
| 05:33.11 | Sebzy | ok ill try to find the samba config |
| 05:33.12 | unstable | pmallapp: When gnash comes out you can use that with 64 bit |
| 05:33.12 | itguy | zless Linux+Windows-HOWTO.gz |
| 05:33.12 | bucky | Sebzy, there's a ton of docs and howtos about it http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/340 |
| 05:33.14 | streuner | itguy: zless foo.gz |
| 05:33.14 | unstable | !gnash |
| 05:33.14 | dpkg | i guess gnash is a GNU project to create a free software player for movies in Shockwave Flash format. Its developers plan on writing a stand-alone player and a plugin for Firefox. Plugins for other browsers may also be written afterwards. Writing a free software Flash-player has been a priority of the GNU project for some time. Before the launch of Gnash, the GNU project asked for people to assist the GPLFlash project. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ |
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| 05:33.31 | itguy | streuner: thank you |
| 05:33.32 | pmallapp | hanasaki, sun's java dropped support for plugins on amd64 machines |
| 05:33.38 | tsukihime | streuner: done o.o |
| 05:33.40 | hanasaki | #$!#@$ what/why |
| 05:33.45 | pmallapp | nvz, thanks for the advice |
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| 05:33.51 | evilbulgarian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:34.02 | stoned | Sebzy, when you get on windows, and try to access debian, it will ask you for a password and username, this is where you type the username/pass of the user that exists on debian mahcine. before you do this, you need to type smbpasswd -a usernamehere on the debian machine. First you add a user to debian machine, letting it know that if a windows user accesses debian, and provide login for debian user, they can access debian user files |
| 05:34.08 | unstable | pmallapp: What are you trying to use that requires java? |
| 05:34.12 | unstable | !tell pmallapp about gnash |
| 05:34.21 | nvz | Shockwave flash? I thought shockwave and flash were two different 'technologies' from macromedia |
| 05:34.29 | beered | Is it possible to remove application and all of its libraries with an app whith apt-get remove? |
| 05:34.34 | unstable | nvz: I dunno check the gnu.org website. |
| 05:34.39 | Sebzy | ahh |
| 05:34.41 | nvz | we can already play flash. |
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| 05:35.01 | itguy | streuner: gzip: linux+windows-HOWTO.gz: No such file or directory |
| 05:35.04 | nvz | its the shockwave applets that dont work |
| 05:35.12 | pmallapp | unstable, i want to access my companies internal websites and docs with are built with java, from my home |
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| 05:35.17 | schmirgo | nvz, only linux x86 can |
| 05:35.30 | Sebzy | where wouldi find samba's config? |
| 05:35.38 | Eclipser | flash is shockwave flash and then there's "normal" shockwave :p |
| 05:35.47 | solid_liq | sebzy: /etc/smb.conf I believe |
| 05:35.56 | bucky | pmallapp, you mean a browser plugin for java aplets? |
| 05:36.00 | Sebzy | thanks |
| 05:36.01 | stoned | Sebzy, also make sure that in /etc/samba/smb.conf it has the SAME workgroup/domain as that in windows machine |
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| 05:36.06 | schmirgo | sebzy, you can also try /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 05:36.32 | Sebzy | cheres guys |
| 05:36.52 | pmallapp | bucky, i am not sure what it is ( i am a java illeterate), but my browswer shows no plugin for showing content application/java-vm |
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| 05:37.12 | unstable | nvz: I haven't seen a shockwave applet in a few years, maybe it's just luck..but I don't think anyone uses it. |
| 05:37.13 | stoned | pmallapp, what browser |
| 05:37.17 | Sebzy | umm |
| 05:37.26 | Sebzy | what am i looking for in the conf file? |
| 05:37.35 | pmallapp | stoned, debians 1.7.12 mozilla and custom built seamonkey |
| 05:37.41 | stoned | Sebzy, www.samba.org and read it for yourself |
| 05:37.42 | nvz | activex is another fucked up technology that causes people to not be able to function on their normal favorite shitty websites.. like I think fox sports site uses movies that are in wmv format, but launched in an activex control, and launch.com as well |
| 05:37.58 | Sebzy | cheres |
| 05:38.01 | schmirgo | sebzy, what are you trying to do? |
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| 05:38.30 | nvz | unstable: well I used to have kids play on cartoon-network.com and you could only play a few of the flash ones but not the shockwave |
| 05:38.41 | stoned | Sebzy, EVERYTHING is commented very nicely in the config file, if you start reading it, maybe you can configure it all the way properly, and maybe learn something along the way |
| 05:38.44 | pmallapp | s/java-vm/x-java-vm |
| 05:39.19 | stoned | pmallapp, you're not using the sun.jre etc? |
| 05:39.50 | pmallapp | stoned, i have suns jre which doesn't have plugin for amd64 machines |
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| 05:40.03 | stoned | pmallapp, I can be of no furthur help |
| 05:40.07 | schmirgo | sebzy, usually in the smb.conf theres an example ... just read through the config and uncomment the lines. its not very hard. also try accessing the linux machine via ip adress and not with its netbios name |
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| 05:40.20 | hanasaki | whydoes gxine need mcop? |
| 05:41.32 | schmirgo | sebzy, just in case the password doesnt work for a samba share but it does for the console login, then do a "smbpasswd -a <username>" |
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| 05:42.26 | stoned | schmirgo, you might be wasting your time, I told him that 3 times already |
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| 05:42.51 | schmirgo | stoned, well, maybe 4 times is enough :P |
| 05:42.57 | stoned | why people not read docs? |
| 05:43.00 | stoned | I mean seriously |
| 05:43.09 | Sebzy | umm if somthing has a ; infrount of it means it inactive? |
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| 05:43.18 | schmirgo | sebzy, yes |
| 05:43.19 | stoned | Sebzy, yes |
| 05:43.22 | stoned | jinx |
| 05:43.30 | Sebzy | remove them for netlogin ya? |
| 05:43.41 | nvz | you should be glad you have docs, life doesnt often come with documentation |
| 05:44.07 | schmirgo | sebzy, netlogin is just for domain like login... if you just want to share a diractory in your home network then leave it commented |
| 05:44.15 | stoned | nvz, that isn't the point. When docs are available people dont' read them. The docs that dont exist dont' even count. |
| 05:44.31 | schmirgo | sebzy try to find some entry with [homes] or [home] |
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| 05:44.39 | Sebzy | ohh oh |
| 05:44.54 | nvz | I've been out running around enjoying signs of spring weather lately.. and there were no docs to tell me how to deal with some of the people i've run into lately that I havent seen in ages :P |
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| 05:45.05 | schmirgo | sebzy, just uncomment that one, and the lines below which belong to that entry, then restart samba |
| 05:45.42 | schmirgo | sebzy, usually homes is set up properly by default. you have a working example then and adapt others from that one |
| 05:45.49 | stoned | home are not commented out, only disabled by default, not browseable, but not commented out |
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| 05:45.56 | stoned | in the default smb.conf |
| 05:46.30 | Sebzy | hmm |
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| 05:47.05 | Sebzy | ok it was allredy uncomented O.o |
| 05:47.33 | stoned | Sebzy, where it says browseable == no to yes |
| 05:47.41 | stoned | somthing like that, under [homes] |
| 05:47.46 | Sebzy | yup |
| 05:47.49 | Sebzy | done |
| 05:47.59 | stoned | do you want to be able to write to your debian files? |
| 05:48.00 | stoned | or just read? |
| 05:48.12 | Sebzy | ok so smbpassword = somthing i want it to be ya? |
| 05:48.18 | Sebzy | yeah |
| 05:48.24 | Sebzy | r/w |
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| 05:48.30 | stoned | read the next few lines |
| 05:48.42 | Sebzy | wrightable =yes |
| 05:48.57 | stoned | there ya go |
| 05:49.30 | Sebzy | ok so now i need to set up a smb user? or can i log in as root/other account pre made? |
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| 05:49.42 | stoned | can't login as root |
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| 05:49.49 | stoned | by default its not allowed |
| 05:50.05 | joeyjones | if i sue quota to set disk useage limits does it enforce it? |
| 05:50.15 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:50.15 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:50.24 | Sebzy | lets say i have rot & sebzy accounts |
| 05:50.28 | Sebzy | *root |
| 05:50.34 | Sebzy | i can login as sebzy? |
| 05:50.35 | stoned | get on debian and open root console and type smbpasswd -a sebzy |
| 05:50.54 | stoned | then type smbclient -L localhost |
| 05:51.09 | stoned | it will ask for user pass, and hopefully should let tell you you can connect and list the shares |
| 05:51.21 | st3ph | 1;2c |
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| 05:51.49 | nvz | b;34 |
| 05:52.43 | Sebzy | ok cool |
| 05:53.06 | nvz | cool would be me just going to bed right now.. :P |
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| 05:53.23 | LinuxNIT | is there a way to merge partitions both containing data? |
| 05:53.33 | Sebzy | woot loggedin!! |
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| 05:53.59 | Sebzy | thanks guys |
| 05:54.08 | nvz | I dont think I could fall asleep right now though is whats not cool |
| 05:54.31 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 05:54.31 | dpkg | < stumbles> nvz: in that case I seem to have a whole lot of packages that i have accidentally upgraded to unstable - is there a 1 liner i can use to downgrade them all to testing? |
| 05:54.41 | stoned | !penis |
| 05:54.41 | dpkg | rumour has it, penis is the male reproductive organ, or the male reproductive organ_ |
| 05:54.54 | vin` | !bong stoned |
| 05:54.57 | nvz | imagine that, I came up in the random qotd |
| 05:55.09 | nvz | thats just the way life has been for me lately.. random |
| 05:55.10 | vin` | no bot-fu |
| 05:55.10 | karsten | !quotd1 |
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| 05:55.23 | karsten | hrm. |
| 05:55.28 | karsten | !quotd0 |
| 05:56.14 | tarzeau | karsten: it's !qotd0 |
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| 05:56.14 | tarzeau | karsten: as in quote of the day |
| 05:56.14 | karsten | tarzeau: Point. |
| 05:56.24 | karsten | tarzeau: I can't misspell right tonight. |
| 05:56.34 | karsten | !qotd0 |
| 05:56.34 | dpkg | methinks qotd159 is <Brian_L> cd #debian-64 |
| 05:56.46 | nvz | I was about to come home and go to bed hours ago.. then ran into a few girls I used to know... |
| 05:56.56 | itguy | in windows we use dir in linux we use ls |
| 05:57.02 | karsten | nvz: Beat you up pretty bad, did they? |
| 05:57.13 | nvz | na, they threatened though :P |
| 05:57.15 | itguy | but how can i break each page using ls |
| 05:57.29 | karsten | itguy: ls | less |
| 05:57.34 | nvz | well one threatened to stalk me anyhow.. but I wouldnt be that lucky I am sure |
| 05:57.47 | itguy | karsten: thank u |
| 05:57.58 | pilgrim | I have an amd athlon 64, do I download "ia64" from this page or which one? http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 05:58.07 | tarzeau | nvz: is she sexy at last? |
| 05:58.12 | nvz | she's the only one of them I ever liked, and happens to be one of my 3 fav women I ever met.. |
| 05:58.14 | vin` | pilgrim: no, amd64 |
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| 05:58.29 | tarzeau | nvz: so when are you going out with her? |
| 05:58.31 | karsten | itguy: pipes (the "|" character) send output to other programs. less, more, most, pg are all pagers which let you scroll through output. |
| 05:58.38 | nvz | tarzeau: doubt it |
| 05:58.41 | karsten | nvz: Sweet. |
| 05:58.45 | tarzeau | nvz: she doesn't like you anymore? |
| 05:58.59 | pilgrim | vin`, I don't see that in http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ . |
| 05:59.03 | CompWizrd | making a 4TB array work with amd64 is great fun.. i gave up, i'm making the system boot off a usb key or something |
| 05:59.03 | tarzeau | nvz: what weather do you have over there? |
| 05:59.20 | nvz | tarzeau: I am not sure she ever did, I've always pushed her away cause she wont play straight with me |
| 05:59.21 | vin` | pilgrim: /msg dpkg amd64 |
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| 05:59.47 | tarzeau | nvz: you've got her phone number? |
| 06:00.10 | karsten | tarzeau: Hell, if he yells loud enough, she's right outside his window. |
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| 06:00.48 | vin` | change your mind anytime and you're in! |
| 06:00.50 | pilgrim | vin`, what this supposed to mean "Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64" ...isn't a good enough reason the fact that my processor is amd64? |
| 06:00.51 | tarzeau | karsten: huh? |
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| 06:01.06 | tarzeau | pilgrim: no |
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| 06:01.19 | itguy | karsten: i'm try zless name.gz and i get gzip: name.gz: No such file or directory? |
| 06:01.20 | nvz | tarzeau: didnt want it, she's like amphetamines.. makes me feel up when she's around.. but I know I'll regret it later when I come down |
| 06:01.24 | tsukihime | streuner: did not work.... |
| 06:01.26 | pilgrim | tarzeau, help me out...explain please. |
| 06:01.35 | vin` | pilgrim: eitherway try #debian-amd64 |
| 06:01.39 | tarzeau | nvz: damn man. get her number, and make out a date. this week! |
| 06:01.52 | tarzeau | pilgrim: some software won't run |
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| 06:02.03 | tarzeau | pilgrim: just install i386, and build your own k8 kernel, hey look: |
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| 06:02.32 | tarzeau | pilgrim: http://www.tibits.ch/config-2.6.16.1 |
| 06:02.34 | nvz | tarzeau: she was with one of my friends when I left a couple years ago. he truely loved her; he wants to have kids really bad, and she got pregnant while she was with him and supposedly cheated so they werent even sure if its his, but she got all nervous and wanted to abort and he paid for it, and that was all fucked up |
| 06:02.42 | tarzeau | pilgrim: www.linuks.mine.nu/make-kpkg/config-2.6.16.1 |
| 06:02.47 | tarzeau | pilgrim: for get the first link |
| 06:02.49 | karsten | itguy: Could it be that you're not in the same directory (what you might call a folder) as the file? |
| 06:03.06 | tarzeau | nvz: ouch! |
| 06:03.16 | karsten | nvz: Messed. Up. |
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| 06:03.31 | ni1s | How I tell APT that I want a specific package from unstable and allways from unsable?, so it dosent downgrade when i upgrade, if you know what I mean... |
| 06:03.32 | nvz | tarzeau: bottom line is she's a coward. and she doesnt believe in dates her slutty friends got her thinking you cant have fun going out. |
| 06:03.43 | karsten | ni1s: Pinning. |
| 06:03.51 | karsten | !tell ni1s about pinning |
| 06:03.51 | itguy | karsten: i did cd /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt. then i ls |
| 06:03.56 | tarzeau | nvz: then forget her, really. go out with some others, it'll do you good |
| 06:04.01 | nvz | tarzeau: and she;ll never show you enough about her to let you know what it is she'd really like to do |
| 06:04.15 | tarzeau | nvz: have you ever been alone with her for talking? |
| 06:04.19 | karsten | tarzeau: Alternatively, we could post this log to bash.org... |
| 06:04.21 | ni1s | karsten, thanks! |
| 06:04.27 | karsten | ni1s: NP |
| 06:04.43 | tarzeau | karsten: nothing funny about it so far, besides doesn't bash.org have some ugly mysql problems? |
| 06:04.46 | itguy | karsten: and i found for e.g clock.gz...so i zless clock.gz |
| 06:04.48 | nvz | tarzeau: I used to spend endless nights untill like 4am talking (listening) with her. |
| 06:04.58 | tarzeau | oh nice theyfixed it |
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| 06:05.11 | tarzeau | nvz: oh well, i don't know then |
| 06:05.21 | nvz | tarzeau: I know she's a good person she's just afraid to be herself. so you can never get hold of what she likes or anything serious.. everything is a joke or a front |
| 06:05.26 | karsten | itguy: 'zless <filename>' should give you output of that file, decompressed. What's the problem again? |
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| 06:05.43 | itguy | karsten: i'm try zless name.gz and i get gzip: name.gz: No such file or directory? |
| 06:05.47 | tarzeau | nvz: ow, i understand you |
| 06:05.50 | nvz | tarzeau: she's got a great personality she can just strike conversation with strangers and stuff |
| 06:06.07 | itguy | karsten: clock.gz: No such file or directory |
| 06:06.15 | tarzeau | nvz: anything she likes doing? |
| 06:06.22 | karsten | it'ls name.gz. Is there a file with that name in that direcotry? |
| 06:06.28 | karsten | itguy: ^^ |
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| 06:07.01 | karsten | itguy: If there's no file there, figure out where it is and have another go at it. You'll have to 'cd' to the right location. |
| 06:07.01 | ni1s | Another question, The package I'm upgrading is Mesa-dev (I'm trying to compile fs2_open, a game), but there are billions of packages with mesa in the name |
| 06:07.15 | karsten | ni1s: apt-cache show auto-apt |
| 06:07.18 | tarzeau | ni1s: which game? do you have fast non-free 3d opengl drivers? |
| 06:07.28 | karsten | ni1s: ... which has a "find which package has this particular file in it |
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| 06:07.32 | karsten | ni1s: ... feature. |
| 06:07.51 | ni1s | tarzeau, http://scp.indiegames.us/ |
| 06:08.11 | streuner | tarzeau: why does links2 not support SSL? |
| 06:08.12 | ni1s | karsten, ah! thanks again! |
| 06:08.17 | tarzeau | streuner: hey it does |
| 06:08.22 | nvz | tarzeau: Its hard to say, she likes feeling safe.. afraid to expose herself which makes it impossible to ever really know anything about her.. the only honest thing I though I ever learned about her in like 3 years was that she enjoyed writing, but I never seen any writings so who knows. |
| 06:08.22 | karsten | ni1s: you can even run it in a shell mode which notes the file in question, the package it belongs to, and prompts you for download. Useful for the situation you're in, invoke prior to build. |
| 06:08.22 | tarzeau | streuner: read the bugs.debian.org/links2 |
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| 06:08.34 | tarzeau | streuner: the cvs has the updated license thanks me, but it's not yet public |
| 06:08.48 | tarzeau | streuner: wow you've ditched firefox for links2. you're truly my friend |
| 06:09.05 | karsten | tarzeau: Heh. |
| 06:09.08 | streuner | tarzeau: nah, my desktop box is fucked... |
| 06:09.28 | streuner | tarzeau: do you have a deb for sarge (SSL) available? |
| 06:09.30 | tarzeau | nvz: find out, have you been strong with her? tell her you want her more serious when talking with you. can you make her trust you? |
| 06:09.38 | tarzeau | nvz: make her feel safe w/ you |
| 06:09.55 | tarzeau | streuner: no, the fix is in the cvs, and that's not public |
| 06:10.14 | tarzeau | streuner: karel did a cvs out (one of the devels in zurich) and sent it to my gmail account 30mb , but gmail can't take that large mails |
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| 06:10.22 | tarzeau | streuner: so it never arrived, i'm waiting for a tarball release |
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| 06:10.30 | tarzeau | streuner: you can build your own, install openssl-dev |
| 06:10.45 | tarzeau | streuner: don't worry nothing as fucked as firefox... |
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| 06:10.53 | foo | Hmm, how can I have the font in my terminal to be smaller? Like, when I press ctrl+alt+f1. I want it smaller, hmm |
| 06:10.53 | tarzeau | nvz: got a photo of her? |
| 06:11.00 | tarzeau | foo: which terminal? |
| 06:11.11 | tarzeau | foo: oh , use svgatextmode? |
| 06:11.17 | tarzeau | foo: or got fb? fbset ... |
| 06:11.20 | streuner | tarzeau: i know, but i have not that much space left on the HD of the server... |
| 06:11.23 | bucky | one thing about marrying an insane woman is... they get more insane after you marry them |
| 06:11.25 | foo | tarzeau: Use that? Program? Hmm... and that's for a term, right? |
| 06:11.33 | nvz | tarzeau: hmm, nope I dont keep photos of people.. I am lucky I even got one of my yearbooks left from school. |
| 06:11.55 | nvz | tarzeau: I especially dont keep photos of people I consider to be bad for my interests |
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| 06:12.17 | nvz | tarzeau: moreso when I have helplessly infatuated with them for years |
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| 06:12.25 | tarzeau | bucky: i never talked about marrying her... |
| 06:12.35 | tarzeau | foo: for textmode console |
| 06:12.40 | foo | tarzeau: hmm, I'll try svgatextmode |
| 06:12.44 | foo | tarzeau: I wonder if I have to reboto |
| 06:12.50 | tarzeau | nvz: k, hey gotta catch the train |
| 06:12.59 | nvz | tarzeau: later |
| 06:13.00 | tarzeau | foo: no reboots needed unless the user fucks it up |
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| 06:13.05 | foo | heh, thanks |
| 06:13.09 | tarzeau | foo: i've seen that with svgatextmode, and yeah i find this funny :) |
| 06:13.37 | foo | tarzeau: haha, hmm, I installed it. What's the command to run it? |
| 06:13.43 | void | Hey, I got a kernel panic out of deb stable's boot CD. |
| 06:14.33 | void | Any easy way to try a deb boot CD with a different 2.6 kernel? |
| 06:14.40 | foo | void: Uh, what was the kernel panic? |
| 06:14.58 | nvz | tarzeau: I just basically made her realize how I felt, and told her I was not happy with the way she handled herself with the pregnancy, even though its really none of my damn business... but she brought up about having a kid, so I had to make that low blow that she already had that chance :P |
| 06:15.08 | jm_ | void: yes |
| 06:15.17 | void | foo: 'call trace' then a bunch of garbage hex addresses and then 'kernel panic' |
| 06:15.57 | pilgrim | nvz, dude, she probably felt horrible for it and having (another) kid maybe would have made her feel better. |
| 06:16.06 | void | jm_: the 2.4 kernel doesn't have the right drivers for my NIC. |
| 06:16.09 | pilgrim | nvz, people are complicated. |
| 06:16.52 | sep | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 06:16.52 | dpkg | sarge 2.6.15 is, like, http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 06:16.58 | nvz | pilgrim: I by no means need kids, but I'll be damned if I am gonna have careless sex, or have sex with someone who is careless about it.. I am not gonna have forsaken children, babys mommas, STDs and tickets to the Maurry show |
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| 06:17.23 | pilgrim | Ok, the #deb-amd64 room is dead, sort of. What are the _disavantages_ of doing amd64 version of debian right now? |
| 06:18.04 | pilgrim | nvz, lol. you're not but she apparantly was careless enough. |
| 06:18.06 | itguy | is putty a windows based or linux based |
| 06:18.19 | sep | nvz, good man. |
| 06:18.19 | pilgrim | nvz, try to comfort her. It usually works. |
| 06:18.20 | foo | itguy: windows |
| 06:18.22 | sep | itguy, windows |
| 06:18.30 | void | sep: nice! Can I use that to install deb stable? |
| 06:18.37 | sep | void, yes it's a installer with a newer kernel |
| 06:18.38 | jm_ | void: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 |
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| 06:19.27 | sep | void, i'd get a kernel from backports after you insatlled that way you'd get new kernels when backport gets them.... it's not security.debian but it's as good as it gets. or you cuold use kernel from etch and use security-testing |
| 06:19.33 | plasmoduck_ | how do I uninstall eggdrop? |
| 06:19.41 | plasmoduck_ | when I do apt-get remove the files are still there |
| 06:19.50 | pilgrim | plasmoduck_, which files? |
| 06:19.50 | sep | plasmoduck_, you need to do purge |
| 06:19.58 | sep | or dpkg -P package |
| 06:20.17 | void | sep: I think i'll be rolling my own kernel for this box. Got some special hardware going in there that's gonna need some tweaks, patches and attention to get working right. |
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| 06:20.33 | sep | plasmoduck_, remove leves config incase you want to reinstall later. purge removes everything |
| 06:20.34 | nvz | pilgrim: yeah well I doubt we'll be running into each other much.. she doesnt live around here anymore, and we dont have any mutual friends anymore either after all that.. it was just wild running into her tonight right outside my house. |
| 06:20.51 | sep | void, well then that d-i should get you insatlled atlest |
| 06:20.53 | nvz | pilgrim: and I am fairly sure she was kidding about stalking me.. she jokes around all the time |
| 06:21.02 | plasmoduck_ | so how do I do it? |
| 06:21.06 | void | sep: yeah, lets hope. |
| 06:21.13 | plasmoduck_ | I just done dpkg -o eggdrop |
| 06:21.17 | plasmoduck_ | and it just showed info |
| 06:21.26 | sep | dpkg -P eggdrop |
| 06:21.53 | sep | plasmoduck_, and for crying out load read man dpkg while your at it. youll learn all kinds of cool things |
| 06:21.54 | plasmoduck_ | ah |
| 06:21.55 | plasmoduck_ | done |
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| 06:22.29 | ni1s | So let me get this straight, i put Package: xlibmesa-gl-dev ,followed by Pin: release o=Debian,a=unstable bellow and then some Priority? in /etc/apt/preferences |
| 06:22.32 | el_alexluna | hi all |
| 06:22.48 | el_alexluna | how i know what services are run? |
| 06:22.51 | pilgrim | nvz, joking is a good sign. And just because you don't "run" into each other often, that can change. Talking with someone till 4am is a huge deal. There must be something she likes about you. Even if you criticize her, she cares about your opinion otherwise she wouldn't have even listened to you at all. |
| 06:23.00 | sep | el_alexluna, just pretend we are 751 people that greet you back |
| 06:23.23 | ni1s | sep, ha, good one |
| 06:23.32 | plasmoduck_ | I can still see the files in /usr/share/eggdrop |
| 06:23.34 | sep | el_alexluna, if you think abotu what's tied to your nics you can do netstat -plon ps is allways a goot tool too |
| 06:23.39 | void | wholly crap there are a lot of ppl here... |
| 06:24.11 | itguy | what is wrong with my system? i type ifonfig and it tells me -bash : ifconfig command not found |
| 06:24.16 | pilgrim | void, it's coz I'm around :P |
| 06:24.23 | sep | itguy, your path might be wrong |
| 06:24.26 | plasmoduck_ | where do I ha fve to copy eggdrop.conf.gz from? |
| 06:24.26 | sep | try /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 06:24.50 | sep | plasmoduck_, usualy /usr/share/doc/eggdrop/ |
| 06:25.03 | sep | plasmoduck_, (wild guess but that's usualy where example are) |
| 06:25.14 | itguy | sep: i am at the home |
| 06:25.16 | ni1s | Hmm... xlibmesa-gl-dev is a FreeX86 release, unstable xlibmesa-gl-dev is X.Org, is is dangerous mixing X's packages like this? |
| 06:25.32 | ni1s | Having the system stay on stable |
| 06:25.37 | void | What would be easier; routing internet connectivity through a Mac or using a wireless card to install Debian? |
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| 06:25.45 | sep | itguy, only root have sbin in it's path |
| 06:25.51 | lkj1 | Why has my eth0 stopped working? Whenever I try to get a dhcp, it says "network is down". How do I fix this? |
| 06:26.23 | void | lkj1: cabling problem? What does 'ethertool eth0' say? |
| 06:26.52 | plasmoduck_ | nope |
| 06:26.54 | lkj1 | ??? command ethertool not found.. |
| 06:26.55 | void | lkj1: my bad, i meant 'ethtool eth0' |
| 06:26.58 | lkj1 | ok |
| 06:27.18 | lkj1 | "no data available" |
| 06:27.34 | void | lkj1: odd. What kind of NIC? |
| 06:27.49 | lkj1 | not so sure.. |
| 06:27.52 | multi_io | can apt-get just fetch packages without trying to install them? |
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| 06:28.22 | nvz | pilgrim: yeah, she definatly takes my criticizm seriously.. but I rarely offer it, cause I fail to read any truth between her made up joking around cause she's nervous or whatever.. her inability to answer any of my questions seriously in the many years we've known each other introduces an uncomfortable ammount of distrust which I am sure she does on purpose. |
| 06:28.30 | lkj1 | I don't know void, but it has never had this problem before. come to think of it, ALL of my network interfaces say "network down" |
| 06:29.03 | void | lkj1: But, your here... ??? |
| 06:29.11 | lkj1 | Two computers :) |
| 06:29.28 | lkj1 | ☻ |
| 06:30.06 | void | lkj1: k. You might poke for clues in 'dmesg | less' and try 'mii-tool' which should do the same thing as ethtool as in report on current physical connection status. |
| 06:30.43 | pilgrim | nvz, I assume she must have been really heart at one point in time. If that's the case she's vulnerable and she doesn't want to take the risk of letting you know too much because than you could take advantage of that and hurt her again. You need to tell her that you know what's going on and that she can trust you (if that's the case) and go on from there. Have her tell you stuff that she doesn't tell anyone, that's when you know that |
| 06:30.44 | pilgrim | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.02 | lkj1 | mii-tool says: "eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link OK |
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| 06:31.19 | void | lkj1: oh, that's very good then. |
| 06:31.48 | lkj1 | but dhclient says " recieve_packet failed on eth0: network is down". |
| 06:32.03 | lkj1 | It works on my other computer, and I have switched around the cables. |
| 06:32.08 | void | lkj1: Neat! did you make a new kernel for yourself? |
| 06:32.21 | lkj1 | lol no, I wouldn't know how. |
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| 06:33.09 | void | lkj1: what happens if you assign an address manually? |
| 06:33.22 | lkj1 | doesn't work either. |
| 06:33.48 | void | lkj1: like, you can't assign the address or you can't ping anything? |
| 06:34.08 | multi_io | why does dpkg -i <package> tell me <package> can'T be installed because of conflicts, even though the package metadata does not contain a "Conflicts" field at all? |
| 06:34.19 | nvz | pilgrim: yeah probably family problems.. her parents were kind of seperate but living together when I met her like 5 years ago when she was 16 |
| 06:34.25 | pilgrim | nvz, I'll be back in 15mins. |
| 06:34.55 | lkj1 | I can assign an address, but it doesn't/can't communicate with anything, void, can't even ping the router |
| 06:35.04 | nvz | pilgrim: I could give a shit if it were a discussion topic, but she doesnt tell me anything thats real.. maybe someday I'll get to know her for who she really is |
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| 06:35.30 | cubiq | When I try to use make-kpkg I get the following errer: *** Error I don't no where the kernel image goes to [kimagedest undefined] blah blah Please specify a subarch. Any ideas? |
| 06:35.38 | pilgrim | nvz, you need to _make_ her let her guard down. You'll know when she does this. |
| 06:35.38 | void | lkj1: Very odd. |
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| 06:36.19 | nvz | pilgrim: I only like her cause I can see through the masqurede and I like what I saw.. but the fact that her issues" |
| 06:36.29 | rohan | can someone please post output of this command for me -- grep col /boot/grub/menu.lst ? |
| 06:37.01 | nvz | pilgrim: make her so irresponsible that she can have sex, now with like probably 3 or more guys.. but cant even have a real relationship |
| 06:37.09 | void | lkj1: Curious what kind of NIC you have so I can avoid them.. Do a 'lspci | grep Ethernet' |
| 06:37.14 | cubiq | Did I happend to post this on #dr_phil by mistake? :) |
| 06:37.23 | nvz | pilgrim: thats just disgusting to me.. takes away all interest of proceeding |
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| 06:38.01 | kartik_ | color cyan/blue white/blue |
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| 06:38.09 | lkj1 | Accton Technology Corporation EN-1216 Ethernet Adapter (rev 11) |
| 06:38.32 | void | lkj1: Good god! |
| 06:38.39 | lkj1 | hmm? |
| 06:38.48 | lkj1 | Lol |
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| 06:39.14 | nvz | I'm very old fashion in that respect.. meet someone, spend some time getting to know them, having fun together.. then let them know what your intentions are as far as sex, marrage. whatever goes.. I dont believe I should sell my ass on the internet and meet all the sleezes from my area. :P |
| 06:39.30 | void | lkj1: I was gonna suggest unloading and reloading the kernel module, but I don't know what module supports that NIC. |
| 06:39.43 | lkj1 | that sounds complex.. |
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| 06:40.02 | void | lkj1: rmmod <module_name>; modprobe <module_name> |
| 06:40.07 | nvz | I've met enough of them already that I know what I do and dont like. I dont know why people have such problems communicating these days |
| 06:40.11 | Kupal[] | i have a cisco router hooked up to my serial port on my debian box; im remote. I would like to make some changes to my cisco, but i would like to script a reboot of the cisco in 15 minutes in cases i Fuckup badly and severe my connection.. how can i script com port? |
| 06:40.19 | lkj1 | what module,void? |
| 06:40.41 | Kupal[] | chat script? |
| 06:40.56 | void | lkj1: see, that's the problem... It's an Accton card which could be anything. |
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| 06:41.26 | lkj1 | EN-1216 is the model, apparently.. |
| 06:41.55 | syntrx | I've got a feeling I've seen one of those before. I think it was a tulip. |
| 06:41.58 | Shorty_ | acton |
| 06:41.59 | Shorty_ | uhm |
| 06:42.03 | Shorty_ | have you tried n2kpci ? |
| 06:42.07 | Shorty_ | ne2k-pci even |
| 06:42.15 | lkj1 | no, lemme run that |
| 06:42.25 | lkj1 | command not found |
| 06:42.28 | Shorty_ | uhm |
| 06:42.35 | Shorty_ | modprobe ne2k-pci |
| 06:42.40 | Shorty_ | it's either that or without the dash |
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| 06:43.19 | lkj1 | it loaded the module, but the "network is down" |
| 06:43.32 | void | lkj1: any clues in 'dmesg' ? |
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| 06:45.09 | syntrx | Try the tulip driver |
| 06:45.18 | lkj1 | tulip_stop_rxtx()failed; eth0: no ipv6 routers present |
| 06:45.24 | lkj1 | wtf, i don't want ipv6 |
| 06:45.25 | nvz | oh well I need some sleep I am gonna have to do this all over again.. as I am skipping town for a day or two.. will inevitably run into #3 this weekend. running into #1 must have just been a warmup |
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| 06:45.39 | lkj1 | how do I do that, syntrx |
| 06:45.41 | lkj1 | ? |
| 06:45.43 | void | lkj1: is there a switch on the wall labelled 'internet'? we had one where I worked one time and you couldn't browse the internet when it was off. ;-) |
| 06:45.58 | lkj1 | lol, no. :) |
| 06:46.04 | lkj1 | it works on one of the computers |
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| 06:46.51 | norskfjord | whereis eggdrop.conf in debian? |
| 06:46.55 | lkj1 | syntrx? what did you mean by "try the tulip driver"? |
| 06:46.56 | kreg_work | i have in addition a scsi hard drive on the system. dmesg says it found it at scsi0:A:0 or something |
| 06:46.58 | void | lkj1: very odd problem you have. You say it worked before right? |
| 06:47.04 | kreg_work | how do i fdisk and format it? |
| 06:47.05 | lkj1 | yes, like last night |
| 06:47.12 | kreg_work | i can't find it with fdisk -l /dev/sda |
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| 06:47.45 | void | lkj1: I think if mii-tool reports link then it is not likely a driver problem. |
| 06:48.00 | syntrx | lkj1: 'modprobe tulip' |
| 06:48.10 | syntrx | but i agree with void |
| 06:48.25 | lkj1 | didn't work |
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| 06:48.30 | void | lkj1: might be something usefull in dmesg at driver init. |
| 06:48.38 | |lostbyte| | pkg is the cmd line installer right ? |
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| 06:48.47 | syntrx | anyhoo, gotta go to work.. |
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| 06:49.17 | lkj1 | "setting full-duplex based on MII#1 like parter capability of 45e1 |
| 06:49.28 | lkj1 | *like = link |
| 06:49.46 | lkj1 | then it says "no ipv6 routers present" |
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| 06:50.30 | lkj1 | what can that mean, void? |
| 06:50.40 | TraceGreen | hello, How do i modify windows registry in linux? or how shall i crack windows password? |
| 06:50.57 | void | lkj1: not much other than things should be working |
| 06:51.08 | lkj1 | :( |
| 06:51.10 | void | lkj1: you can safely ignore ipv6 messages |
| 06:52.22 | |lostbyte| | Are there sources for debian, like in mandriva ? |
| 06:53.00 | lkj1 | yes |
| 06:53.08 | kristalino | |lostbyte|, no the sources for mandriva are like debian !! |
| 06:53.33 | menko | |lostbyte|: yes, there are |
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| 06:54.08 | |lostbyte| | lolz ! link me.. |
| 06:54.34 | SimonRaven | apt-get source <source package name> |
| 06:55.05 | SimonRaven | man apt-get |
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| 06:55.17 | menko | SimonRaven: by sources, he means the servers in source.list |
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| 06:55.33 | |lostbyte| | SimonRaven: Dont i have to septup mirrors and stuff. |
| 06:55.41 | |lostbyte| | menko: yup ! |
| 06:55.59 | menko | |lostbyte|: Check what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:56.03 | kreg_work | how do you fdisk a scsi disc? dmesg says it found the atapi disc controller and each hard drive, but i can't find a /dev/xxx to represent them |
| 06:56.25 | SimonRaven | kreg_work: sd?, sg? |
| 06:56.36 | kreg_work | no >: ( |
| 06:56.46 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 06:56.49 | flamesrock | can someone please help me with my bash command? I want to unzip all files in ~/*.zip??? |
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| 06:56.52 | flamesrock | how do I do that |
| 06:57.24 | void | ok, so this is a long-shot question. Anyone know how to make a MacOSX machine route between networks? |
| 06:57.33 | menko | |lostbyte|: I'm not sure where I got my servers from actually, try checking the packaging faq in the FAQ link in the topic |
| 06:57.44 | SimonRaven | !mirrors |
| 06:57.45 | dpkg | i heard debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
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| 06:58.16 | kreg_work | SimonRaven, fdisk /dev/sg0 just hangs |
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| 06:58.34 | nkuttler | void: system preferences -> sharing -> internet sharing should do the trick (#macosx) |
| 06:58.36 | kreg_work | SimonRaven, i don' thave a /dev/sdx |
| 06:58.40 | SimonRaven | yes, and? |
| 06:58.42 | |lostbyte| | menko: k ! but actually. I didt install Debian. want to ! but thinking of getting the netinst iso and then get packages over the internet :) what do you advice ? |
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| 06:58.51 | kreg_work | SimonRaven, do you have any advise? |
| 06:59.20 | menko | |lostbyte|: well if you do the netinstall then it'll add the mirrors automatically, and if you want you can add contrib and non-free to that when it's installed |
| 06:59.24 | SimonRaven | kreg_work: how about you tell us what you're trying to do |
| 06:59.37 | kreg_work | how do you fdisk a scsi disc? dmesg says it found the atapi disc controller and each hard drive, but i can't find a /dev/xxx to represent them |
| 06:59.51 | menko | |lostbyte|: But if you want to install sid(unstable), I don't think the netinstall can do it, you need to instal the etch base and then upgrade to sid |
| 07:00.12 | SimonRaven | repeating it is not helpful |
| 07:00.25 | kreg_work | bot? |
| 07:01.58 | |lostbyte| | menko: Will read about the sid later. k so i will download the netinst only. thanks. be back on Debian shortly. |
| 07:02.03 | kreg_work | SimonRaven, you a bot? |
| 07:02.17 | syntrx | haha |
| 07:02.26 | SimonRaven | wtf are you recommending to install sid? you get to support them then |
| 07:02.29 | SimonRaven | kreg_work: no |
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| 07:03.13 | menko | SimonRaven: sorry lol I guess that was a bit dumb |
| 07:03.17 | SimonRaven | kreg_work: are you? |
| 07:03.20 | kreg_work | SimonRaven, heh i said "how do you fdisk a scsi disc?" asking about how to find the appropriate /dev/xxx, and you said "how about you tell us what you're trying to do" |
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| 07:03.38 | SimonRaven | yes, and how is that bot-like? |
| 07:03.50 | kreg_work | because i just todl you want i'm tryign to do. twice |
| 07:04.07 | nkuttler | kreg_work: cat /proc/partitions? |
| 07:04.47 | kreg_work | nkuttler, nah i tried that already. shows only the ide drive and the installed partitions. i have a scsi channel with 3 discs waiting to be fdisk'd |
| 07:04.47 | SimonRaven | i bet he's running udev, and it hasn't detected any real scsi or scsi emulating devices, or it's exhibiting it's usual crappiness |
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| 07:05.48 | kreg_work | dmesg says scsi0:A:0 stuff like that |
| 07:05.58 | kreg_work | yet there is not /dev/scsi0 device |
| 07:06.10 | SimonRaven | there isn't, either |
| 07:06.29 | SimonRaven | sd? like i said 5 minutes ago |
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| 07:07.05 | kreg_work | old scsi, not sata. an old board with an atapi |
| 07:07.16 | kreg_work | SimonRaven, i've already replied to that. thank you. |
| 07:07.32 | void | kreg_work: anything usefull in /proc/scsi ? |
| 07:07.39 | SimonRaven | whatever. /ignore me for all i care |
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| 07:08.11 | pilgrim | nvz, well....look it looks like you like part of her but hate the rest. Maybe you don't want to be with her at all. If you think this might be the case then...try to move on. |
| 07:08.51 | pilgrim | nvz, I have crushes on chicks (like daily) but I think about her for like 2-3 days then it starts fading...then I move on (sortof). |
| 07:09.02 | kreg_work | proc/scsi/scsi show same text output found in dmesg about the 3 drives. doesn't list a /dev/xxx to format tho |
| 07:09.12 | void | sep: if you are still on, thanks! it's installing perfectly! |
| 07:09.26 | SimonRaven | /dev/sdd13 |
| 07:09.34 | tarzeau | foo: SVGATextMode |
| 07:09.39 | kreg_work | there is no /dev/sdx |
| 07:09.43 | tarzeau | foo: if it's not games you can do dpkg -L |grep bin |
| 07:09.46 | void | kreg_work: perhaps the device nodes don't exist? can you create them with mknod? |
| 07:09.50 | tarzeau | foo: for games the binaries are in /usr/games |
| 07:09.58 | SimonRaven | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:10.04 | SimonRaven | cd /dev; MAKEDEV sd |
| 07:10.20 | kreg_work | what would posses the system to leave the mknod'ing upto me? |
| 07:10.22 | tarzeau | nvz: that's not a simple situation where you're in |
| 07:10.52 | SimonRaven | ohnozlolzihavetodoworkimgonnadie |
| 07:10.56 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 07:11.05 | void | kreg_work: strange and bizarre dev fs. Got me. I've had to create device nodes on occasion (20+ disk drives in the same system). |
| 07:11.12 | kreg_work | no it's just that of all systems i've done, i've never had to manually mknod for a scsi disc |
| 07:11.23 | kreg_work | oh well, i'll keep at it. thank you |
| 07:12.04 | kreg_work | the channel isn't for whining SimonRaven, it's for debuging and debian discussion |
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| 07:12.11 | void | kreg_work: well, do the device files exist or not? try 'ls /dev/sda*' |
| 07:12.28 | kreg_work | zoiks, i've already stated that there is no /dev/sdx |
| 07:12.36 | SilverMoonDragon | hey |
| 07:12.43 | joeyjones | i got a little problem that's 1/2 linux 1/2 apache |
| 07:12.52 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, ask |
| 07:13.07 | joeyjones | i ran a script that tries to make a directory |
| 07:13.12 | joeyjones | but it fails |
| 07:13.26 | kreg_work | it appears that they are as /dev/sg0 1 and 2, but fdisk only hangs on those |
| 07:13.29 | void | kreg_work: yeah, but partition tools report oddball errors when the device *file* exists and there is no *device* that might make one think there is no device file. If that makes any sense... |
| 07:13.29 | joeyjones | does apache have a user/group i could choqn the directory to? |
| 07:13.38 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, can you paste the script and it's output somewhere on the net and point us there? |
| 07:13.48 | kreg_work | void, ahh |
| 07:14.07 | void | kreg_work: yeah, sg0, etc.. are more raw scsi devices. Nice for tape libraries, bad for disk drives. |
| 07:14.08 | kreg_work | void, that could explain why fdisk just sits and waits |
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| 07:14.24 | kreg_work | these would be it. old adaptec controller |
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| 07:14.43 | PuLIm | someone can help me? |
| 07:14.52 | joeyjones | SilverMoonDragon: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nVpJdy95.html |
| 07:14.58 | joeyjones | the error message |
| 07:15.00 | nkuttler | joeyjones: use ps to see as what user apache runs |
| 07:15.04 | void | kreg_work: you can do some low level scsi stuff with the sg? device nodes, but you cannot treat them as block devices AFAIK |
| 07:15.15 | SilverMoonDragon | PuLIm, ask |
| 07:15.27 | kreg_work | void, .... oh |
| 07:15.55 | joeyjones | i started apache in root |
| 07:15.55 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, yep. use ps as nkuttler said |
| 07:15.57 | void | kreg_work: if you had a mechanical arm with a scsi interface you would use /dev/sg? |
| 07:16.03 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, WHAT?? |
| 07:16.05 | joeyjones | apache doesn't show up |
| 07:16.10 | kreg_work | void, well, the howto's talke about scsi being treated just like block. i wanna just use the scsi discs as a hard drive. actually raid 5 the three together which are all on the same channel |
| 07:16.13 | joeyjones | i started apache as root |
| 07:16.14 | nkuttler | joeyjones: wtf? /etc/init.d/apache start |
| 07:16.36 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, precisely. run apache as nkuttler said |
| 07:16.55 | void | kreg_work: sure, and it sounds like the device nodes simply don't exist for some reason. |
| 07:17.10 | PuLIm | silensius; my pc is a motherboard Intel PERL865L, Processor Celeron D .. i dont know how architeture use can u help me? |
| 07:17.12 | void | kreg_work: mknod or MAKEDEV or whatever to create them. |
| 07:17.14 | kreg_work | well kiss my grits |
| 07:17.19 | PuLIm | SilverMoonDragon; my pc is a motherboard Intel PERL865L, Processor Celeron D .. i dont know how architeture use can u help me? |
| 07:18.22 | joeyjones | got it |
| 07:18.24 | joeyjones | www-data |
| 07:18.31 | joeyjones | butr when kit's idle apache doesn't show up |
| 07:19.01 | argent | PuLIm, i think x86 should work. is it 64bit? |
| 07:19.13 | argent | PuLIm, err.... just use x86 |
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| 07:19.51 | nkuttler | now why on earth does a mkfs.ext2 -c -j fill my / ? there were more than 10G free. |
| 07:20.04 | kreg_work | void, do you think /dev/sg0 sg1 and sg2 be ok, but something wrong with perhaps a terminator or misjumper? like would they show up fine even if i jumpered incorrectly? |
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| 07:20.19 | kreg_work | void, the adaptec bios menu said they were just dandy, dunno about termination tho |
| 07:20.20 | PuLIm | argent, x86 and i386 are the same? |
| 07:20.38 | argent | PuLIm, not exactly, but for x86 you should use i386 |
| 07:20.58 | nkuttler | ah, logs. many bad blocks it seems. |
| 07:21.03 | argent | nkuttler, how much space is left now? |
| 07:21.11 | nkuttler | 0 |
| 07:21.30 | void | kreg_work: You cannot use the /dev/sg? device nodes. Those are 'scsi generic' non-block devices. You must create /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc... |
| 07:21.37 | argent | nkuttler, 0???? is your / separate from others? |
| 07:21.52 | argent | nkuttler, oh, logs |
| 07:22.10 | nkuttler | argent: it's a laptop. didn't bother to make any partitions. |
| 07:22.10 | PuLIm | [argent]: thank u |
| 07:22.22 | argent | PuLIm, no probs |
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| 07:23.09 | mortal__ | how do I tell apt that I don't want it to upgrade a certain package |
| 07:23.12 | argent | nkuttler, i had a same problem on my lappy a while ago. it was due to logs, a soon as i freed up some space, it was immidiately filled up |
| 07:23.31 | argent | mortal__, i think there should be something like marking a package |
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| 07:24.56 | nkuttler | mortal__: /msg dpkg hold |
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| 07:25.35 | mortal__ | thank you |
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| 07:25.53 | pilgrim | g'night all. |
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| 07:26.26 | joeyjones | what is a simple email server for debian? |
| 07:26.39 | joeyjones | (also that someone can help me configure) |
| 07:26.58 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, i think qmail should do but others think qmail sucks |
| 07:27.03 | tarzeau | joeyjones: postfix and exim |
| 07:27.09 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, though qmail is pretty easy to configure |
| 07:27.17 | joeyjones | and can you help me config it? |
| 07:27.30 | void | SilverMoonDragon: qmail does Maildir by default doesn't it? |
| 07:27.33 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, qmail? yep |
| 07:27.36 | joeyjones | i've read so many fucking manuals that they no longer make sense to me |
| 07:27.38 | joeyjones | k |
| 07:27.43 | joeyjones | is it in apt-get? |
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| 07:28.01 | SilverMoonDragon | void, dunno. never had to go to the depths |
| 07:28.02 | nkuttler | joeyjones: no. only source. |
| 07:28.10 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, could be. but use source |
| 07:28.37 | void | joeyjones: postfix is really simple as well. It's sendmail-compatable which is very usefull too for addon software like spam-virus filters. |
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| 07:29.21 | void | SilverMoonDragon: I recently did a bunch of Maildir with IMAP stuff. Really neat. |
| 07:29.40 | joeyjones | SilverMoonDragon: so with qmail can you do php mail() and regular sending? |
| 07:29.56 | void | SilverMoonDragon: but, I used postfix, procmail and courier because that's what i'm familier with. |
| 07:30.00 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, visit http://www.qmailrocks.org/install_db.htm |
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| 07:30.50 | SilverMoonDragon | void, i am familiar with qmail and have never needed to go to the command line (except for creating domains) or edit config files (which can be done using the web gui) |
| 07:31.04 | saintiss | hi, does anyone have problems with k3b freezing the system when scanning for CD devices? |
| 07:31.06 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, yep. look at squirel mail |
| 07:31.15 | saintiss | (latest etch) |
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| 07:32.51 | joeyjones | SilverMoonDragon: btw i'm a 100% noob and qmail says not for noobs |
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| 07:33.01 | suyog | can someone help me with grub please? |
| 07:33.10 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, bullshit. first time i used qmail i was 13 |
| 07:33.12 | Zugschlus | !someone |
| 07:33.12 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 07:33.16 | joeyjones | lol |
| 07:33.18 | joeyjones | u'm 16 |
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| 07:33.30 | joeyjones | *i'm |
| 07:33.36 | suyog | my windows is in seventh partition of my hard disk. how can i add it to grub? |
| 07:34.27 | SilverMoonDragon | joeyjones, it gives you commands you gotta run exactly as they should. btw, i really gtg. c ya. follow the instructions and it should be done easily |
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| 07:34.50 | joeyjones | lol |
| 07:34.54 | joeyjones | how big is it? |
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| 07:36.32 | suyog | anyone, please? |
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| 07:38.27 | suyog | my windows is in seventh partition of my hard disk. how can i add it to grub? |
| 07:38.39 | jm_ | info grub |
| 07:39.45 | nkuttler | joeyjones: why don't you take an mta that is in debian and that comes with an easy to install package? |
| 07:39.59 | mixter | hi! i have a server with a p4 dual core processor, after installing kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp the server hangs at "uncompressing linux" when i reboot. have i choosen the wrong kernel? could there be anything wrong with the kernel i 3.1r1 (i read something about problems with the kernel in the netboot cd, but i've installed from the first full cd, binary 1) |
| 07:40.00 | joeyjones | mta? |
| 07:40.11 | joeyjones | !mta |
| 07:40.11 | dpkg | hmm... mta is a mail transfer agent, in other words sendmail or any of its replacements (such as exim4, postfix, qmail, ssmtp, zmail, etc).. |
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| 07:41.05 | joeyjones | void: could you help me configure it then? |
| 07:41.28 | joeyjones | manuals no longer make sense to me |
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| 07:41.40 | void | joeyjones: You should install it and try helping yourself first. It's really not complicated. |
| 07:41.52 | joeyjones | manuals make me bleed |
| 07:42.09 | nkuttler | joeyjones: too lazy to read? well, we're too lazy to help |
| 07:42.24 | joeyjones | i've read like 100 manuals in the last 3 days |
| 07:42.38 | joeyjones | would apt-get work for postfix? |
| 07:42.50 | void | joeyjones: ya |
| 07:42.58 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 07:42.58 | dpkg | [qotd102] <]BdS[DrDefrag> i want to overclock my proliant dl580 g2 to compile the 2.6 kernel more quickly. any recommendations ? |
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| 07:46.49 | joeyjones | void: so how do i send test mail? |
| 07:47.23 | mixter | what is the difference between the packages kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp and kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686-smp? is there newer debian patches on the latter? |
| 07:47.38 | jengelh | mixter: likely |
| 07:47.52 | mixter | jengelh: ok! thanks... |
| 07:48.07 | void | joeyjones: echo test | mail you@localhost |
| 07:48.07 | jengelh | if you can find a changelog, the better |
| 07:48.41 | evaded | Little (dump) question. On the Sarge, which mysql-server version is best to install? So that it's compatible with the most other stuff 4.0 - 4.1 or 5.0? |
| 07:48.54 | jengelh | dump is dumb :D |
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| 07:49.45 | evaded | jengelh: right ;-) but like im dumb, it's possible dump ;-) |
| 07:49.51 | joeyjones | void: is there a way to check postfix email from a website? |
| 07:49.59 | signature16 | once ive installed gkrellm2, how do i get it to appear on the side of the screen? |
| 07:50.36 | silensius | PuLIm : i'm just good diver i can understand whaat'is a motherboad |
| 07:50.47 | void | joeyjones: not so directly. You need a mail client. There are some interesting web-based email clients out there. Try squirrelmail. |
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| 07:52.45 | evaded | I ask it, because i have two differents version of mysql, on two different computers. On a server the 4.0 and here on the computer 4.1 like i have make an little thing with the version 4.1 and importing it to the 4.0 give some little errors. So i have to use 'mysqldump --compatible=mysql40' |
| 07:53.17 | joeyjones | void: so would thunderbird work? |
| 07:53.28 | evaded | But now, i see that there are also the version 5.0 So i no more know which version to use. Probably the recentest one, i guess |
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| 07:53.53 | joeyjones | evaded: the evrsion you're transfering to |
| 07:53.54 | evaded | Like i'm not sure i ask my dumb question |
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| 07:54.08 | joeyjones | also, i doubt version 4 can make it compatible for evrsion 5 |
| 07:54.21 | void | joeyjones: not sure. Thunderbird may want a pop3 server running (apt-get install cucipop). |
| 07:54.24 | evaded | joeyjones: So from the server i remove the 4.0 and install the same as here 4.1 then? |
| 07:54.52 | joeyjones | evaded: ignore what i say |
| 07:55.05 | joeyjones | void: is that as easy to install? |
| 07:55.07 | woltage | Does somebody had problems with su in debian testing? |
| 07:55.13 | tarzeau | woltage: checked BTS yet? |
| 07:55.22 | woltage | BTS? |
| 07:55.34 | evaded | So better direct to use the 5.0 and forget the other versions? |
| 07:55.35 | bucky | bacon tomato and spinach ? |
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| 07:56.04 | bucky | !bts |
| 07:56.05 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 07:56.20 | woltage | not yet, let's see... |
| 07:56.22 | joeyjones | evaded: the newest version usually works better |
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| 07:56.57 | evaded | joeyjones: Just had a need of an confirmation, ok i doing it so the 5.0 then :-) |
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| 07:57.13 | joeyjones | void: is cucipop as easy to install as postfix was? |
| 07:57.30 | void | joeyjones: ya, i think so. |
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| 07:58.40 | joeyjones | void is cucipop right? |
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| 08:00.18 | joeyjones | cause apt-get install cucipop gets nothing |
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| 08:00.35 | tziku | how can i see process list only from a group ? |
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| 08:01.25 | signature16 | what is the best hmtl/php editor? |
| 08:01.32 | bucky | cucipop hasn't been available since oldstable |
| 08:01.38 | joeyjones | lol |
| 08:01.51 | joeyjones | is there a newer one i should use that's good and easy to use? |
| 08:02.08 | weasel00 | friend told me to check out zmanda, what is it? |
| 08:02.26 | bucky | you could get the dsc, gz and diff and build a new deb yourself if you want it that bad |
| 08:02.46 | joeyjones | bucky: i jsut want a pop3 server |
| 08:03.28 | evaded | signature16: quanta+?? |
| 08:03.30 | bucky | there's a ton of them.. apt-cache search pop3 |
| 08:03.34 | woltage | tarzeau: can't find anything :( |
| 08:03.45 | nkuttler | signature16: i use vim. some like emacs. some like other things. try and see what you like. |
| 08:04.09 | mortal__ | emacs is the best |
| 08:04.21 | evaded | signature16: bluefish and screem?? |
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| 08:05.26 | wdamn | how to format a usb pen drive on debian? |
| 08:05.27 | suyog | man grub doesn't help. no one here with experience in grub? |
| 08:05.48 | SlayerXP | wdamn: the same way as any other distro |
| 08:05.48 | evaded | signature16: Like nkuttler have say, and do an mixture of use. Some editors are a bit more usefull for a, the other for b and the last for c. Playing with all the tools is the best |
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| 08:06.04 | suyog | should it be root (hd0,7) or root (hd7,0) ?? |
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| 08:06.19 | blaamann | wdamn: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Flash-Memory-HOWTO/ |
| 08:06.43 | joeyjones | !pop3 |
| 08:06.43 | dpkg | POP3 is a really pesky way to get email, especially if you have lots of it. An evil thing most people on the internet are stuck with whether they like it or not. See <fetchmail>. telnet your.pop3.server.org pop3 |tee -a mymails; user foo; pass ****; list; retr 1; dele 1; quit. Also see RFC1939 |
| 08:06.51 | bucky | suyog, (hd0,7) is hda8 in grub talk |
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| 08:07.26 | bucky | suyog, because grub starts counting from 0 |
| 08:07.39 | cubiq | When I try to use make-kpkg I get the following errer: *** Error I don't no where the kernel image goes to [kimagedest undefined] blah blah Please specify a subarch. Any ideas? |
| 08:07.45 | suyog | oh, i see. then i'll have to (hd0,6) for hda7, right? my windows is in hda7, logical drive. |
| 08:07.55 | bucky | right |
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| 08:08.22 | suyog | thanks, bucky. does it make a difference if the windows is in logical drive instead of primary? |
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| 08:09.17 | bucky | suyog, no and there should be an example in the menu.lst file that you can uncomment and modify.. it requires a chain loader line for windows |
| 08:09.33 | bucky | you'll see it |
| 08:11.16 | woltage | No one got problems with su in testing? |
| 08:11.50 | tarzeau | woltage: probably not |
| 08:11.57 | suyog | i did all that. chainloader +1 |
| 08:11.57 | bucky | woltage, did you configure it to allow your user to su after installing it? |
| 08:12.07 | tziku | how can i sort lsof list by gropup ? I want to see connection only from a group. How can i do theat: lsof -n -i |grep "(ESTABLISHED)" .... ? |
| 08:12.20 | suyog | but somehow it just doesn't boot into windows. says error parsing number |
| 08:12.21 | litage | i'm trying out Debian's "paranoid" php.ini, and for some reaso when i try to connect to mysql, php ends up connecting as www-data@localhost with no password rather than using the credentials i specified. how might i fix this? |
| 08:12.31 | suyog | ah, well, i'll just have to reinstall windows |
| 08:12.35 | woltage | bucky: jeah, it worked yesterday. I Upgraded and *kosh* not working anymore. |
| 08:12.50 | woltage | bucky: it works only under the screen, but not in normal shell. |
| 08:12.55 | woltage | :O |
| 08:13.34 | bucky | suyog, fdisk -l hda and make sure you got the right partition number |
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| 08:14.10 | suyog | bucky, actually, it shows as hdc |
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| 08:15.36 | bucky | suyog, so you're saying (hda2,6) is your windows partition |
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| 08:16.20 | suyog | oh, (hda2,6)? |
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| 08:16.38 | bucky | woltage, did you tell the upgrade to replace the /etc/sudoers file ? |
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| 08:16.57 | mixter | could i mount a usb memory-stick just as `mount /dev/sda /mnt -tvfat`? or do i have to do anything before mounting? the kernel seems to find the device |
| 08:17.02 | foo | Hmm, if I want something not so memory intensive, would you guys recommend firefox or opera? |
| 08:17.09 | woltage | bucky: /etc/sudoers don't effect in su? |
| 08:17.23 | bucky | it doesn't? |
| 08:17.34 | nkuttler | mixter: why don't you try? |
| 08:17.54 | woltage | bucky: It's for sudo and sudo is working. |
| 08:17.57 | bucky | oh.. i thought this was a sudo question for some reason.. sorry |
| 08:18.03 | woltage | bucky: :O |
| 08:18.36 | mixter | nkuttler: i've tried already but failed :-) i could mount it with -tusbfs, but i cannot find any of my files, just a bunch of directories like 001, 002 and so on |
| 08:18.52 | menko | foo: I'd recommend opera personally |
| 08:19.08 | foo | menko: Hmm, alright. Thanks. I'll play around with it |
| 08:19.11 | mixter | nkuttler: i thought i might ask how to do it right instead of bugging you all with how i tried and failed ;-) |
| 08:19.48 | bucky | woltage, did you look up login in the bts ? |
| 08:20.07 | kevix | mixter: I just 'tail -f /var/log/messages' and pull the usb device in and then out. it then tell what /dev/s* device It found |
| 08:20.18 | woltage | bucky: yeah, didin't find anything. |
| 08:20.49 | bucky | woltage, what do you mean by doesn't work? |
| 08:21.10 | woltage | I can't change user level to root |
| 08:21.13 | bucky | and is this sarge etch |
| 08:21.14 | bucky | ? |
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| 08:21.36 | mixter | kevix: it should be on /dev/sda according to dmesg, and if i run mount the little led on the stick flashes so it seems like linux is accessing the right device |
| 08:21.41 | woltage | bucky: no, testing. I sayed it in start :) |
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| 08:21.57 | bucky | woltage, i can't scroll up that far |
| 08:22.04 | woltage | ouh, ok. |
| 08:22.42 | kevix | mixter: 99% of the time its NOT /dev/sda but /dev/sda1. and the commnd should 'mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt' note the space after the -t |
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| 08:23.26 | mixter | kevix: ok.. i'll try that then, wait (the computer is in another room :-) ) |
| 08:23.50 | void | Anyone successfully using a broadcom SATA controller? What kernel module supports it? sata_svw doesn't seem to be working... |
| 08:24.23 | tarzeau | void: which kernel? |
| 08:24.47 | void | tarzeau: 2.6.15 |
| 08:24.58 | tarzeau | void: your own or debian? |
| 08:25.15 | void | tarzeau: debian testing I believe |
| 08:25.28 | tarzeau | void: try to build your own? how did you install? |
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| 08:25.54 | tarzeau | void: or kmuto? ubuntu? knoppix? any of those kernels works? |
| 08:25.56 | void | tarzeau: i'll try to build my own next. I've got an ide disk for root and 12 ports SATA total. |
| 08:26.12 | tarzeau | void: if you want, www.linuks.mine.nu/make-kpkg/ see the config file |
| 08:26.14 | void | tarzeau: the bcm5770 is only 4 ports. |
| 08:26.26 | mixter | kevix: it cannot find a valid fat system... :-/ could there be anything other than vfat? the stick works fine under windows |
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| 08:26.53 | void | tarzeau: but, is sata_svw the right module? what difference would building my own kernel really have? |
| 08:26.56 | tarzeau | void: i see... that's good when you can try building a kernel on such system |
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| 08:26.58 | kevix | mixter: '-t msdos' |
| 08:27.08 | tarzeau | void: i don't know bcom. i've had a very new nv_sata thing |
| 08:27.17 | tarzeau | void: you can do make menuconfig |
| 08:27.24 | tarzeau | void: and use the really latest kernel |
| 08:27.34 | tarzeau | void: and you can patch the kernel. and set things different than debian |
| 08:27.38 | void | tarzeau: I know how to build a kernel np. I just don't think it will make a difference. |
| 08:27.45 | tarzeau | void: it did for me |
| 08:28.00 | mixter | kevix: nope... is that fat16? |
| 08:28.01 | tarzeau | void: neither debian nor kmuto kernels worked. my own did, ubuntu one did and debian gnu/kfreebsd worked |
| 08:28.15 | void | tarzeau: odd. |
| 08:28.24 | kevix | mixter: carefully. can you try 'cfdisk /dev/sda' ? |
| 08:28.27 | joeyjones | void: what would you suggest for pop3? |
| 08:28.33 | tarzeau | joeyjones: teapop |
| 08:28.48 | joeyjones | is it simple? |
| 08:28.55 | tarzeau | joeyjones: yes |
| 08:29.06 | mixter | kevix: i'll try to copy all files from the device first. could try to reformat it afterwards.. iägg get back to you if you'd like! |
| 08:29.38 | void | joeyjones: We used to use cucipop. Moved to courier-imap and Maildir. Much better setup, but way complex. |
| 08:29.44 | kevix | mixter: you can instead try 'fdisk -l' |
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| 08:30.23 | ni1s | I'm writing a Wiki on how to compile Freespace 2 Open on Linux, and some Debian users are getting OpenGL errors(Mesa being to old), If anyone got some spare time, I would be grateful if you look at http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Fs2_open_on_Linux#glBindBufferARB_feature_missing , I might aswell be dead wrong here. Pointers? suggestions? Anyhing? |
| 08:30.26 | void | joeyjones: pop3 is an extremely simple protocol. I'm sure most any of the pop3 server packages from 'apt-cache search pop3' will work fine. |
| 08:30.46 | bucky | woltage, is you password larger than 8 characters ? |
| 08:30.54 | joeyjones | tarzeau: should i allow local useres to check email? |
| 08:31.09 | woltage | bucky: yes. |
| 08:31.09 | tarzeau | joeyjones: if you want |
| 08:31.30 | bucky | woltage, there's a bug report about that |
| 08:31.36 | woltage | ouh |
| 08:31.44 | bucky | !bug #87301 |
| 08:31.44 | woltage | bucky: can you paste url? |
| 08:31.44 | dpkg | bug #87301 can be viewed at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=#87301 |
| 08:31.56 | woltage | bucky: thank you <3 |
| 08:32.08 | woltage | bucky: An error occurred. Dammit. Error was: No bug number. |
| 08:32.09 | woltage | :) |
| 08:32.24 | tarzeau | can someon fix dpkg, the # is too much in the url |
| 08:32.35 | tarzeau | it's for anchors |
| 08:32.49 | kevix | !bug 87301 |
| 08:32.49 | dpkg | bug 87301 can be viewed at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=87301 |
| 08:32.53 | bucky | woltage, http://tinyurl.com/zguqq |
| 08:33.06 | tarzeau | kevix: ah :) |
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| 08:33.30 | kevix | tarzeau: I guess someone has to sanitize the input to it x-) |
| 08:33.32 | bucky | that work thanks Kevin` |
| 08:33.42 | bucky | err kevix |
| 08:33.44 | NET||abuse | Hi, i'm trying to support cifs on my debian box so i can copy files off a 2003 server, |
| 08:33.50 | mixter | kevix: fdisk says i got this device, and also a /dev/sda1p1? thatone is on 2 TB! the stick is totally on 256 MB :-) |
| 08:33.57 | bucky | there i'll just type your whole nick out |
| 08:34.00 | NET||abuse | trying to see if cifs is even supported by my install just now.. how can i tell? |
| 08:34.17 | mixter | kevix: i don't have any network on that machine yet, so i cannot send you any screendumps |
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| 08:34.21 | blondie | NET||abuse: it should be |
| 08:34.30 | blondie | NET||abuse: otherwise you could use smbfs |
| 08:34.42 | kevix | bucky: actually you can just use: http://bugs.debian.org/87301 |
| 08:34.52 | NET||abuse | blondie, i don't think smbfs will work on win srever 2003 |
| 08:35.11 | blondie | NET||abuse: hmm have you tried it? |
| 08:35.25 | bucky | kevix, i'm just glad i found it at all |
| 08:35.25 | kevix | mixter: that sounds like its /dev/sda1 just not sure what the FS is |
| 08:36.02 | bucky | NET||abuse, cifs is supported in the kernel |
| 08:36.18 | NET||abuse | yeh |
| 08:36.36 | NET||abuse | how can i make sure it's in the kernel as when i try i get odd message |
| 08:36.36 | aidan | how can I re-install some packages? I think I have corrupt binaries |
| 08:36.59 | NET||abuse | apt-get remove packagename; apt-get install packagename |
| 08:37.03 | kevix | aidan: there is an option with apt-get and aptitude to 'reinstall' |
| 08:37.31 | evaded | Is it normal that i have the mysql-server-5.0 version in Sarge? |
| 08:37.40 | NET||abuse | no |
| 08:37.41 | evaded | It's my day of dumb questions :-/ |
| 08:38.01 | tarzeau | NET||abuse: --reinstall |
| 08:38.10 | kevix | !dpkg info mysql sarge |
| 08:38.17 | NET||abuse | umm, maybe i'm wrong |
| 08:38.23 | NET||abuse | maybe 5.0 is normal.... |
| 08:38.24 | NET||abuse | odd |
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| 08:38.51 | NET||abuse | evaded, what sources are you on? |
| 08:38.59 | kevix | !info mysql-server |
| 08:39.02 | evaded | apt-proxy :-? |
| 08:39.04 | NET||abuse | evaded, i happen t have custom compiled version on my own so |
| 08:39.05 | bucky | NET||abuse, there's a lot of howtos on win 2003 server and samba integration |
| 08:39.08 | NET||abuse | evaded, i'm not sure |
| 08:39.08 | dpkg | mysql-server: (mysql database server (current version)), section misc, is optional. Version: 5.0.19-2 (sid), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 64 kB |
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| 08:39.19 | kevix | !info mysql-server sarge |
| 08:39.23 | dpkg | mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 3560 kB, Installed size: 8344 kB |
| 08:39.26 | NET||abuse | bucky, i've used cifs to mount 2003 before, |
| 08:39.44 | evaded | So i suspect that on this machine versions are mixet :-/ |
| 08:39.46 | NET||abuse | bucky, the issue is that when you run active directory in native 2003 mode it wont work with smb |
| 08:39.52 | NET||abuse | so you have to use cifs |
| 08:39.52 | vyrus001 | anybody here use the zd1211 drivers ? |
| 08:40.03 | kevix | evaded: they could be 'backports' also |
| 08:40.27 | NET||abuse | so my questoin is how do i list out what fs's the kernel has installed. |
| 08:40.28 | NET||abuse | ?? |
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| 08:40.46 | evaded | I have acces to the 5.0 i have look on the website, it's from march 2006, but sarge ... So i have do an milkchake i think |
| 08:41.15 | kevix | NET||abuse: maybe check the .config of the kernel |
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| 08:42.24 | mixter | kevix: i tried with another usb memory (an ipod shuffle) and it worked right away! i guess my kingston usb-stick isn't linux compatible :-/ |
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| 08:43.09 | kevix | mixter: try posting to debian-user mailing list... |
| 08:43.20 | joeyjones | void: so do i need to setup my name servers for using postfix and teapop? |
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| 08:43.46 | pamela24 | where download cd debian sid please |
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| 08:43.57 | void | joeyjones: you mean dns? You need to define an MX host. |
| 08:44.27 | NET||abuse | joeyjones, any mail server needs to receive incoming mail, MX records are for this. |
| 08:44.27 | mixter | kevix: i'll have to get the networking started first so i could post some dumps though. thank you for helping me! |
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| 08:44.49 | pamela24 | I need to download debian unstable |
| 08:44.50 | kevix | pamela24: the best way is to download 'etch' installer and then upgrade |
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| 08:44.55 | kevix | mixter: cheers |
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| 08:45.05 | pamela24 | sid |
| 08:45.06 | pamela24 | ??' |
| 08:45.26 | kevix | ! etch iso |
| 08:45.57 | pamela24 | not |
| 08:46.02 | pamela24 | etch not :( |
| 08:46.04 | pamela24 | sid :D |
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| 08:47.11 | pamela24 | !etch iso |
| 08:47.18 | pamela24 | bots down |
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| 08:48.08 | kevix | !info net install |
| 08:48.09 | cubiq | What do I have to do after a installation from netinst CD image to be able to compile hardware drives? Can I easily add the debian sources afterwards? |
| 08:48.24 | cubiq | o rkernel sources.. |
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| 08:48.40 | kevix | cubiq: apt-get install build-essential |
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| 08:49.17 | pamela24 | i wish installing debian sid |
| 08:49.23 | cubiq | kev Great thx. Downloading new netimage now. I'll test your soultion asap :) |
| 08:49.24 | pamela24 | i wish download Debian sid |
| 08:49.34 | pamela24 | it not debian sarge |
| 08:50.08 | kevix | pamela24: if you go to the web site: http://www.debian.org you can find the info there |
| 08:50.09 | Tygrys | hello |
| 08:50.51 | pamela24 | ok ok thanks guys |
| 08:51.17 | cubiq | pamela24: http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/ |
| 08:51.17 | menko | pamela24: I once downloaded a debian sid snapshot and it wouldn't install, I was quite frustrated after download 2 cds.. |
| 08:51.45 | menko | pamela24: So I had to install a deb etch base system and then add the sid mirrors |
| 08:52.09 | kevix | menko: which is what I told pamela24 before... |
| 08:52.36 | pamela24 | (: |
| 08:53.19 | kevix | pamela24: join the debian-user mailing list to keep things working |
| 08:53.32 | pamela24 | ok |
| 08:53.44 | mahatma | is libtiff.so.3 not available in any manner through synaptic?. I only get libtiff.so.4 |
| 08:53.55 | tarzeau | mahatma: testing? |
| 08:54.00 | kevix | mahatma: what is asking for it? |
| 08:54.08 | tarzeau | mahatma: did you get some old binary debian package? |
| 08:54.18 | menko | kevix: heh, sorry, I just jumped in and gave my exp |
| 08:54.20 | mahatma | I have no idea. My /etc/debian-version reports 3.1 |
| 08:54.36 | tarzeau | mahatma: what says your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 08:54.58 | kevix | menko: no prob. I just was saying that I agreed with you x-) |
| 08:54.58 | mahatma | tarzeau: sarge main |
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| 08:55.13 | mahatma | hmm, no stable main |
| 08:55.23 | joeyjones | tarzeau: is it a bad sign if your registrar's site mis dow n? |
| 08:55.26 | mahatma | the sarge main is commented out.. |
| 08:55.33 | tarzeau | joeyjones: hm? |
| 08:55.44 | mahatma | kevix: iaxcomm is asking for it |
| 08:55.50 | joeyjones | my registrar/nameservers |
| 08:56.01 | tarzeau | mahatma: that doesn't exist. what is it, where do you have it from? |
| 08:56.06 | tarzeau | mahatma: get the source debian package, rebuild it |
| 08:56.10 | kevix | mahatma: you may want to try snapshot.debian.net |
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| 08:56.20 | tarzeau | joeyjones: no it's fine, use your own dns, or any that works |
| 08:56.26 | mahatma | tarzeau: it's a binary sip phone from iaxclient.sf.net |
| 08:56.32 | joeyjones | i got no other dns... |
| 08:56.33 | tarzeau | joeyjones: wait it'sfor your domains and your dns servers? that's bad :( |
| 08:56.39 | mahatma | tarzeau: it's free software, though;) |
| 08:56.40 | tarzeau | mahatma: bad luck then |
| 08:56.44 | tarzeau | mahatma: good luck then |
| 08:57.01 | joeyjones | tarzeau: the registrar i have my domains and nameservers with is down |
| 08:57.01 | kevix | !info iaxcomm |
| 08:57.04 | dpkg | iaxcomm: (Portable IAX(2) protocol telephony client), section comm, is optional. Version: 0.0+cvs20050725-6 (sid), Packaged size: 457 kB, Installed size: 1016 kB |
| 08:57.07 | joeyjones | is that makes more sense |
| 08:57.25 | joeyjones | so no smtp |
| 08:57.27 | joeyjones | *pop |
| 08:57.32 | joeyjones | so pop3 just smtp |
| 08:57.37 | kevix | mahatma: its in debian (sid at least) |
| 08:58.30 | mahatma | Kevin`: hmm, any way to update the whole computer to sid? |
| 08:58.55 | kevix | mahatma: the usuall way, I guess. x-) |
| 08:59.18 | mahatma | kevix: ok, I'll investigate |
| 08:59.26 | kevix | mahatma: you edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:00.09 | mahatma | kevix: ok, I'll search the documentation; probably a very common question;)= |
| 09:00.12 | joeyjones | tarzeau: i assume that i can't jsut start my own name server... |
| 09:00.39 | tarzeau | joeyjones: why not? |
| 09:01.00 | joeyjones | tarzeau: i emna and be able to control my domain names |
| 09:01.18 | tarzeau | joeyjones: your registrar won't come back? |
| 09:01.23 | tarzeau | joeyjones: you know all about DNS? |
| 09:01.32 | joeyjones | it'll be back |
| 09:01.37 | tarzeau | http://www.rscott.org/dns/ |
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| 09:04.07 | joeyjones | tarzeau: don't i need to point my registrar at my nameserver? |
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| 09:04.13 | atsi | hi |
| 09:04.22 | tarzeau | joeyjones: no just tell your registrar your new dns servers |
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| 09:04.42 | joeyjones | tarzeau: but i can't do that because the site is down... |
| 09:05.27 | void | who's on first? |
| 09:05.31 | atsi | a quick one. my motherboarrd is asus p5rd1-vm. i need to install sarge. but sarge does not recognise the network card. anyone has any ideas? |
| 09:05.40 | atsi | please it is urgent. |
| 09:06.09 | void | atsi: what kinda nic? |
| 09:06.24 | ne0futur | in bios make the card not active and install another network card |
| 09:06.25 | joeyjones | tarzeau: so there's nothing i can do until their site is up, then i'll probably jsut use their name servers |
| 09:07.17 | atsi | i do not know. it is the onboard |
| 09:07.41 | SuicideDog | hey I'm a serious newby when it comes to linux but have had 12+ years working with networks, windows, and netware systems. I know how firewalls, smtp, and dns all work. I have PPC base server and have installed debian .. played around with it and I'm looking to install a mail server with spam/bldns/av filters. Where should I start? |
| 09:08.01 | liable | atsi: you need to find out what it is, and google for a kernel that it works with. |
| 09:08.06 | void | atsi: installer should give you a selection of network drivers to choose from. Did you try any? |
| 09:08.28 | SlayerXP | SuicideDog: don't bother. use my service to filter your mail for you. |
| 09:08.40 | atsi | i tried them. nothing happened |
| 09:08.45 | liable | atsi: did you boot the 2.6 kernel or 2.4? |
| 09:08.54 | void | atsi: the lspci command might give you a clue as to what it is (ctrl-alt-f2 gets you a console during install). |
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| 09:08.57 | kevix | atsi: if you are having problem with the onboard, and you need it done now, find a replacement nic and use that until you can fix the issue |
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| 09:09.21 | SuicideDog | SlayerXP: I have mail .. I'm looking to learn .. |
| 09:09.34 | tarzeau | joeyjones: not really i guess... well know www.mine.nu? |
| 09:09.39 | atsi | void:it says ali m5263 ethernet controler. i did lspci frm knoppix |
| 09:09.40 | tarzeau | joeyjones: and cname records? :) |
| 09:09.51 | tarzeau | joeyjones: but no, if you cant' change the ns records... |
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| 09:10.12 | atsi | liable: tried both. |
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| 09:11.07 | SuicideDog | so no one has any suggestions? |
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| 09:11.58 | void | atsi: not a familier nic to me. Does it work in knoppix? |
| 09:12.19 | Jacobo221 | hi, after installation from scratch and upgrading to unstable, neither xterm nor gnome console etc gets the euro key allthough any other non-console-emulator does grab the eruo key (and the native console does too) |
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| 09:12.59 | SuicideDog | is there a debian newbie channel I can go to or something? |
| 09:13.20 | kevix | Jacobo221: IIRC would that be a locale issue or a keymap issue? |
| 09:13.56 | Jacobo221 | Kevin`: if it were a keymap issue it woulnd't be grabbed anywhere in X, woud it? |
| 09:14.14 | liable | SuicideDog: well, firstly, install your needed packages, and then go about reading docs on them from google and /usr/share/doc and man pages. then try and configure it all. :) |
| 09:14.41 | SuicideDog | I know how to rtfm .. just tell me which system I should look at. I've heard of qmail .. but I also hear it is not for the newbie. Is there a more basic mail server? |
| 09:15.19 | SuicideDog | liable.. thanks.. but which packages? |
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| 09:15.29 | joeyjones | SuicideDog: i suggest postfix for smtp |
| 09:15.51 | SuicideDog | postfix for the smtp server.. ok.. does it have pop also? |
| 09:15.55 | SuicideDog | pop3 |
| 09:16.04 | SimonRaven | SlayerXP: ok. please stop doing that. that's a) annoying to me b) borderline spammy |
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| 09:17.23 | atsi | void: yes it does |
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| 09:17.49 | thenewguy | hi |
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| 09:18.20 | SilverMoonDragon | hi |
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| 09:18.25 | PSIplus | hi |
| 09:18.30 | SilverMoonDragon | hi PSIplus |
| 09:18.38 | void | atsi: oh, then use lsmod to list the running modules in knoppix. One of them is for the nic and should be listed in Debian's installer. |
| 09:18.40 | mixter | hi! i've tried to upgrade my kernel with both kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686-smp_2.6.8-16sarge2_i386.deb and kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686_2.6.8-16sarge2_i386.deb, i got a pentium 4 dual core cpu on 3 ghz. when rebooting the systems hangs on "uncompressing linux" with both kernels. have i done anything wrong? is this really the right kernel for me? |
| 09:18.45 | PSIplus | How can I configure ipmasq to drop all incoming traffic from an interface? |
| 09:18.48 | joeyjones | tarzeau: aite's finally up! |
| 09:18.51 | thenewguy | does anyone know how to set up telewest broadband (with a ethernet modem0: ive read all over google is posible, but cant find anywhere that tells me how to do it? |
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| 09:19.17 | petemc | thenewguy: plug cable in, use dhcp, bingo bango bongo |
| 09:19.17 | PSIplus | I want to use it on my notebook as firewall to block all incoming traffic |
| 09:19.45 | thenewguy | petemc: im new to all this; im not sure how to use dhcp... |
| 09:19.45 | WireDDD | petemc: wouldn't you have to use ppp? |
| 09:19.45 | shorewall | I have shorewall and subversion installed, and shorewall prevents users from svn ssh connections, can you help me setting it up? |
| 09:19.55 | NET||abuse | is there a kernel module with cifs suppport that i can get, i can't find relevant cifs package |
| 09:20.00 | PSIplus | (connection requests in tcp or udp or anything else to my ip should be blocked) |
| 09:20.09 | petemc | WireDDD: no |
| 09:20.11 | blondie | NET||abuse: have you tried just mount -t cifs? |
| 09:20.26 | NET||abuse | blondie, yeh |
| 09:20.38 | petemc | thenewguy: theres plenty of guides to help you |
| 09:20.38 | NET||abuse | nothing |
| 09:20.45 | blondie | have you tried smbfs? |
| 09:20.55 | tarzeau | blondie: smbfs has 2gb limit or so, cifs not |
| 09:20.59 | SuicideDog | thanks for the help |
| 09:21.00 | veleno | hello everyone. how can i checkout the source code from this svn repository: hello. how can I checkout the source code from this svn repository: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta/poi/trunk/src/scratchpad/src/org/apache/poi/hwpf/ ? |
| 09:21.01 | SuicideDog | laters |
| 09:21.05 | NET||abuse | yeh, and server 2003 when running in 2003 native mode doesn't support SMB |
| 09:21.13 | thenewguy | so there are; thank you |
| 09:21.17 | blondie | tarzeau: I see |
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| 09:23.08 | shorewall | when users try to connect to my svn server using svn(plus)ssh, I see shorewall log: Mar 31 10:21:33 [kernel] Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:02:b3:28:e2:42:00:0c:ce:f0:7c:7f:08:00 SRC=69.143.139.230 DST=147.83.169.161 LEN=30 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=104 ID=4802 PROTO=UDP SPT=1213 DPT=1026 LEN=10 |
| 09:23.48 | shorewall | but I have configured shorewall with SVN/ACCEPT net $FW |
| 09:23.53 | SimonRaven | that's iptables log, fyi, not shorewall. shorewall is just a frontend |
| 09:24.03 | shorewall | what did I do wrong? |
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| 09:25.15 | joeyjones | SilverMoonDragon: why would postfix not relay mail from a mail client to an external server? |
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| 09:27.33 | joeyjones | could it be becaus ethe mx recods hasn't spread yet? |
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| 09:30.00 | joeyjones | anyone here? |
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| 09:30.14 | comsa | . |
| 09:30.29 | _GecKo | joeyjones: /quit |
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| 09:32.36 | shorewall | is there any special configuration I must do with subversion so that tortoise users can connect?? |
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| 09:32.48 | tekkus | hi :) |
| 09:33.42 | SilverMoonDragon | tekkus, hi |
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| 09:34.42 | liable | shorewall: um, your port shows 1026 and svn is 3690.. |
| 09:34.57 | SimonRaven | shorewall: you sure that's svn+ssh trying to connect? |
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| 09:35.04 | liable | shorewall: open 1026?? |
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| 09:35.25 | tekkus | exit |
| 09:35.46 | Chiko_Medina | any know how install applet-widget (debian etch) |
| 09:36.03 | shorewall | liable: sorry, I pasted a wrong log, I think shorewall is not stopping tortoise now, but the user can't connect anyway |
| 09:36.46 | Chiko_Medina | any know how install applet-widget (debian etch) ? |
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| 09:38.30 | blafd | hey |
| 09:38.39 | blafd | any one fimilar with audio processing here? |
| 09:38.47 | blafd | i need a program like orban optimod |
| 09:38.59 | SilverMoonDragon | blafd, audacity |
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| 09:40.37 | Trent- | how can i download the x-system-core for gnome? |
| 09:40.42 | Chiko_Medina | any know how install applet-widget (debian etch) ? |
| 09:41.00 | tarzeau | Trent-: x-window-system-core |
| 09:41.07 | Trent- | thanks |
| 09:41.12 | liable | Chiko_Medina: you might start with asking a more detailed question. |
| 09:41.37 | tralala | Trent-: gnome should depend on it so if you install gnome you should have the x-windows-system installed as well |
| 09:41.49 | liable | tralala: nup. |
| 09:42.25 | Chiko_Medina | liable, what is name of package in debian :s |
| 09:42.39 | tarzeau | Trent-: no it shouldn't |
| 09:42.42 | liable | Chiko_Medina: no idea. |
| 09:42.48 | tralala | really? why not? unless gnome can run in text mode I would consider this a bug |
| 09:42.51 | tarzeau | tralala: that's wrong |
| 09:42.57 | Chiko_Medina | :S |
| 09:43.00 | Chiko_Medina | ok thanks |
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| 09:43.04 | tarzeau | tralala: no it's not a bug, it can run on a remote x window server |
| 09:43.09 | tarzeau | tralala: gnome is just x window clients |
| 09:43.13 | Trent- | yea its fine, im just downloading the x-window-system-core and then gnome |
| 09:43.16 | cubiq | I installed deb on a system with one ATA disk at hd0 and a SATA disk. I installed my system on the SATA disk but the grub was installed on the MBR on the ATA disk. How do I easily remove my ATA drive and make my system boot from my SATA drive? |
| 09:43.18 | liable | tralala: you can run it on another box with a server |
| 09:43.27 | tralala | oh, I see |
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| 09:43.44 | Trent- | tarzeau: i dont need the x-window-system-core to run gnome? |
| 09:43.48 | tarzeau | Trent-: no |
| 09:43.59 | tarzeau | Trent-: you can run a x window server on mac os x or windows and use gnome in there |
| 09:44.03 | liable | to run it locally, yes. |
| 09:45.04 | Trent- | tarzeau: wont let me use gnome because im running unstable :/ |
| 09:45.11 | raf256 | I have debian (32 bit, unstable), can I build 64 bit kernel (how?) and run it, but keep all userland (normal 32 bit)? |
| 09:45.23 | tarzeau | Trent-: what? |
| 09:45.33 | tarzeau | raf256: sparc? sure |
| 09:45.34 | SlayerXP | raf256: do you have a 64 bit processor? |
| 09:45.44 | raf256 | amd64 |
| 09:46.11 | SlayerXP | then why not install the debian amd64 port? |
| 09:46.12 | tralala | raf256: yes, but there is no benefit |
| 09:46.13 | raf256 | I dont want to move to 64 bit userland yet, but I would to have the kernel itself to be in 64 bit mode, is that possible? |
| 09:46.21 | Trent- | tarzeau:"if your are using the unstable distro that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of incoming" |
| 09:46.38 | tralala | raf256: and you don't need to compile 64bit kernel, debian already has |
| 09:46.42 | liable | Trent-: yes. thats what happens in unstable. |
| 09:46.43 | raf256 | tralala: kernel can use more mem = single 32b application is limited to 2 (or 4) GB, but all apps and buffers are bigger? |
| 09:46.50 | tarzeau | Trent-: i use unstable |
| 09:46.52 | raf256 | tralala: I have special pateches |
| 09:46.53 | tarzeau | Trent-: but i don't use gnome |
| 09:47.00 | tarzeau | !sid faq |
| 09:47.01 | dpkg | hmm... sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 09:47.01 | mahatma | when I boot, it says "Starting MTA" and it stands like that for many minutes; any debian specific command to disable this MTA? |
| 09:47.23 | SimonRaven | things break. life happens, report bug, fix them, move on |
| 09:47.37 | mngrif | mahatma, fix your /etc/hosts file, it will fix the hang |
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| 09:48.19 | pingouin | is it possible to have openoffice 2.0.2 (the last stable version) with debian Sarge (that give me throught apt-get 1.1.3.9) ? |
| 09:48.35 | blafd | MAN |
| 09:48.38 | nkuttler | pingouin: /msg dpkg backports |
| 09:48.39 | blafd | that is taking the fucking piss |
| 09:48.39 | Trent- | tarzeau: you use fluxbox? |
| 09:48.40 | tralala | raf256: I'm not sure about that because I don't know anything about memory management. But event 32bit kernels support more than 4GB of ram (iirc). |
| 09:48.43 | blafd | thoses popups on sourceforge |
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| 09:48.50 | blafd | seriously |
| 09:48.58 | pingouin | ok nkuttler thank you |
| 09:49.02 | blafd | some one know of a different place like sf? |
| 09:49.02 | mahatma | mngrif: ok, thanks |
| 09:49.15 | [machine] | savannah or alioth |
| 09:49.26 | tralala | raf256: and do you really have more memory than your 32bit linux supports? |
| 09:49.26 | liable | blafd: what are you on about? |
| 09:49.38 | blafd | Popups |
| 09:49.42 | blafd | on sourceforge.net |
| 09:49.43 | [machine] | savannah == GNU's gforge server... alioth == Debian's gforge server |
| 09:49.50 | blafd | blocking youre download link |
| 09:49.55 | blafd | thats what im talking about |
| 09:50.05 | liable | never seen em.. |
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| 09:50.18 | blafd | <DIV> evil, never thought they would stoop so low. |
| 09:50.34 | petemc | blafd: using what browser? |
| 09:50.45 | blafd | knoquero |
| 09:50.48 | blafd | er |
| 09:50.57 | blafd | knoqueror |
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| 09:51.01 | petemc | ive seen it using ie... http://www.yerma.org/~pete/temp/sourceforge.jpg |
| 09:51.05 | blafd | whatever |
| 09:51.32 | blafd | maybe some asshole marketing company has taken advantage of sourceforge there |
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| 09:52.09 | blafd | its probably not there AUP for advertisers on there site |
| 09:52.16 | blafd | we farking hope ;/ |
| 09:53.16 | blafd | i just went bacl |
| 09:53.23 | blafd | its actually a HP banner |
| 09:53.33 | blafd | AHHH |
| 09:53.34 | blafd | lol |
| 09:53.56 | blafd | it kindly moves over when you maximize the browser :) .. doh |
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| 09:58.01 | blafd | fjear |
| 09:58.09 | blafd | mad screaming errors from audacity compile |
| 09:58.28 | threat | yaya |
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| 10:06.20 | thenewguy | do i need to install bind to set up dhcp? |
| 10:06.28 | petemc | no |
| 10:06.34 | SlayerXP | thenewguy: no |
| 10:06.47 | thenewguy | how can i do it then? |
| 10:06.53 | petemc | thenewguy: man 5 interfaces |
| 10:07.24 | tralala | thenewguy: do you want to setup a dhcp server? |
| 10:07.34 | thenewguy | no; just get my broadband working |
| 10:07.46 | thenewguy | i think i got it... |
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| 10:08.59 | opqdonut | it seems that the etch netinstall floppies haven'r got isa support |
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| 10:09.29 | thenewguy | iface eth0 inet dhcp?? |
| 10:09.34 | petemc | yeah |
| 10:09.37 | thenewguy | can i get rid of the crap underneath? |
| 10:09.49 | petemc | what crap? |
| 10:10.03 | thenewguy | gateway, address, network, broadcast etc? |
| 10:10.07 | petemc | yup |
| 10:10.14 | thenewguy | great |
| 10:10.38 | thenewguy | right, ty |
| 10:10.45 | thenewguy | ill go offline and test.. |
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| 10:11.47 | cubiq | RAID question. I have a low end promise raid card. I've put 2 sata disk in mirror mode. Debian installer don't detect the raid but eh 2 individual sata disk. I can then choose Software raid in the partiotioner. What should I do? SHould I use both "hardware" and software raid or should I put rdware raid in JBOD mode? Any tips, ideas? |
| 10:12.27 | SlayerXP | cubiq: don't buy low end RAID hardware - there's no point. |
| 10:12.35 | sep | cubiq, take out the card rnu a nail tru it and put fire to it while chanting "Do no EVIL .. Do no EVIL"" |
| 10:12.45 | sep | cubiq, you'r data will be safer too |
| 10:13.41 | cubiq | SlayerXP: I wouldn't buy this card for a server. I just bought the card to be able to put 2 sata disk on an old mother board for embedded testing :) |
| 10:14.30 | cubiq | So maybe I should turn of all raid handling on the card and just put the disks in jbod mode and then let the debain software raid take care of it |
| 10:14.42 | sep | cubiq, good idea |
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| 10:14.46 | tralala | cubiq: many cheap raid adapters do not have hardware array support. If this is your case you should use the linux software raid support (and yes, in this case there is no benefit having a raid card). |
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| 10:15.21 | jm_ | cubiq: it would only detect them as one disk with help from dm-raid, but like others said, don't use it |
| 10:15.25 | wols | cubiq: low end raid cards don't have hardware raid |
| 10:16.18 | cubiq | Well, see it this way. I bought a PCI-SATA card and I got a raid chip on it. I won't use it ok. Just wonder how I would set up the disks on the card.. |
| 10:16.27 | wols | they just pretend to. in the end it's the worst solution of all: proprietary software raid, raidset only working with _their_ special card and _their_ special software |
| 10:16.37 | cubiq | wols: I know. That is way I said "hardware" ;) |
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| 10:16.48 | thenewguy2 | oops! |
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| 10:17.01 | thenewguy2 | i seem to have a problem.. |
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| 10:17.20 | thenewguy2 | "No DHCPOFFERS recevied" |
| 10:17.25 | cubiq | OK, the consensus is that I should put them in JBOD mode right ;) |
| 10:17.37 | thenewguy2 | supprising, since i im supposed to use dhcp |
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| 10:17.59 | tralala | thenewguy2: call your provider's customer support |
| 10:18.11 | thenewguy2 | offically, they dont support linux.. |
| 10:18.19 | thenewguy2 | do i just give up? |
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| 10:18.38 | wols | are you sure they use dhcp? |
| 10:18.50 | thenewguy2 | yes; thats what im using with windows |
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| 10:19.10 | tralala | thenewguy2: then you're out of luck |
| 10:19.15 | thenewguy2 | ok |
| 10:19.20 | thenewguy2 | ty anyways |
| 10:19.24 | SpoonMeiser | Ok, packages in 'testing' don't get moved to stable, do they? Testing will just be the next stable release at some point (far) in the future. Is that right? |
| 10:19.26 | liable | thenewguy2: wait a sec |
| 10:19.31 | jm_ | do you even have DHCP client installed? |
| 10:19.34 | wols | thenewguy2: try with dhclient manually |
| 10:19.51 | jm_ | SpoonMeiser: yes; yes |
| 10:19.56 | wols | SpoonMeiser: yes. stables stays like it is except some bugfixes and security patches |
| 10:20.05 | SpoonMeiser | curses |
| 10:20.07 | thenewguy2 | jm_: yes |
| 10:20.12 | thenewguy2 | pump |
| 10:20.22 | liable | thenewguy2: exactly how do you connect in windows? you need to put your details in the router/modem or the windows box? |
| 10:20.24 | jm_ | thenewguy2: then do it manually and try alternatives clients too |
| 10:20.25 | wols | thenewguy2: are you running woody? |
| 10:20.34 | jm_ | alternative even |
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| 10:20.41 | thenewguy2 | im running sarge |
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| 10:21.05 | wols | thenewguy2: try dhclient |
| 10:21.21 | thenewguy2 | will do; what do i do; just type dhclient at the console? |
| 10:21.29 | SpoonMeiser | looking to push a better distro for our new production environment, but a decision to use mysql5 has already been made. I take it that testing isn't recomended for production environments? |
| 10:21.31 | liable | pppoeconf?? |
| 10:21.32 | wols | no. you type "man dhclient" |
| 10:21.41 | wols | and install it if it's not there already |
| 10:21.56 | wols | SpoonMeiser: backports.org |
| 10:22.02 | thenewguy2 | it there; readin man page now |
| 10:22.08 | jm_ | SpoonMeiser: mysql5 is available on backports |
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| 10:22.11 | bartden | hi, i need some help with wpa_supplicant and my network interfaces, i added my wireless if into ifplugd and i configured my wpa_supplicant.conf , i moved the wpa startup script before my network start up script, when i boot i see that its loading wpa , but my dhclient wont run (and its set in network/interfaces), when i log in and search for a running wpa_supplicant i cant find one, any idea's ? |
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| 10:22.52 | SpoonMeiser | wols, jm_ : Thanks |
| 10:23.06 | jm_ | hmm at least the client is |
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| 10:23.49 | wols | jm_: one could also compile the source file from etch of mysql in sarge |
| 10:24.04 | wols | with a little editing of the metadata of course |
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| 10:24.58 | jm_ | wols: as long as it doesn't also require new debhelper/cdbs |
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| 10:26.17 | jm_ | uff .au is 8 hours ahead of us, not sure if I'll be able to test live-f1 |
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| 10:26.44 | liable | jm_: not ill sunday anyway :) |
| 10:26.55 | liable | till.. |
| 10:27.11 | jm_ | liable: I could test it tomorrow too, but that takes place one hour earlier |
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| 10:27.25 | jm_ | so 5am :( |
| 10:27.40 | thenewguy2 | no; im still having problems with dhcp; even with dhclient. |
| 10:27.46 | thenewguy2 | maybe its configured wrong |
| 10:27.51 | liable | jm_: what do you mean by test? |
| 10:28.02 | jm_ | liable: do you know what live-f1 is? |
| 10:28.13 | liable | jm_: i guess not. |
| 10:28.22 | liable | tell me! :) |
| 10:28.27 | thenewguy2 | ive got a modem/router type box sitting on my desk which is automagically configured to use 192.168.100.1 |
| 10:28.52 | thenewguy2 | ive just put etho inet dhcp in my interfaces file |
| 10:28.54 | thenewguy2 | was that wrong? |
| 10:29.08 | jm_ | liable: www.formula1.com has a java applet to follow the sessions live, and one of the Debian/Ubuntu maintainers made ncurses app to do the same, and I have some patches for it and want to test it first |
| 10:29.09 | liable | no, thats ok. |
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| 10:29.52 | ronal_db | thenewguy2: replace etho with eth0 |
| 10:29.53 | liable | jm_: oh, sweet. /me will have to check it out. |
| 10:30.30 | wols | ronal_db: doh. we should have seent hat before :) |
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| 10:31.09 | SpoonMeiser | thanks for the help guys - I'm outta here |
| 10:31.28 | thenewguy2 | ronal_db; it is eth0. that was a typo, sorry |
| 10:31.48 | jm_ | liable: http://www.netsplit.com/bzr/live-f1/HACKING |
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| 10:32.51 | thenewguy2 | any ideas? |
| 10:33.01 | thenewguy2 | do i need to setup my modem as a gateway or something |
| 10:33.15 | xored_ | hello iam trying to configure a ethernet_bridge for openVPN, so i can mount NFS drives tc. I added the bridge now ( gatebr0), should i make a addiff gatebr0 eth0(innerlan) ? When i do so, my connection to ssh brakes down |
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| 10:33.30 | wols | thenewguy2: no you're router supposed to act as a dhcp server |
| 10:33.36 | wols | what is the dhclient line you used? |
| 10:33.41 | wols | *your |
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| 10:34.31 | thenewguy2 | i apt-get removed pump, check dhclient was the only client and then did /etc/init.d/network restart |
| 10:34.40 | mahatm1 | hello; I'm a little confused about pppoe; it doesn't start on boot and I have to do it manually. I think this is because I've set the IP in the network configurator, but if I don't set an IP and choose DHCP instead, then this of course won't work. Any pointers? |
| 10:34.51 | tarzeau | Trent-: no, i use wmaker/gnustep |
| 10:35.02 | tarzeau | Trent-: fluxbox is nasty to use and has too small fonts |
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| 10:35.21 | wols | paste the ppp entry in /etc/network/interfaces somewhere |
| 10:35.57 | thenewguy2 | dhclient eth0 |
| 10:36.02 | wols | thenewguy2: we told you to use dhclient MANUALLY. if that works you can try it via /etc/init.d/networking restart to automate it |
| 10:36.09 | thenewguy2 | ok |
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| 10:36.40 | wols | mahatm1: the ppp pasting was directed at you btw |
| 10:36.42 | thenewguy2 | dhclient eth0 is the line i need, from what i can gather from the man page, is that correct? |
| 10:36.50 | wols | yes |
| 10:36.55 | linuxboyfriend | hi all |
| 10:37.03 | thenewguy2 | ok, lemme try that |
| 10:37.04 | linuxboyfriend | can anyone tell me some facts about TC and DRM? |
| 10:37.12 | mahatm1 | wols: yeah, but there already is an entry in there which were put there by pppoeconf I guess |
| 10:37.32 | wols | mahatm1: which is why we want you to paste those entries |
| 10:37.38 | Ronin | linuxboyfriend: fact one has two letters in it one has three |
| 10:37.47 | wols | tell linuxboyfriend about anyone |
| 10:37.50 | wols | !tell linuxboyfriend about anyone |
| 10:38.11 | mahatm1 | auto dsl-provider |
| 10:38.12 | mahatm1 | iface dsl-provider inet static |
| 10:38.12 | mahatm1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.12 | mahatm1 | # please do not modify the following line |
| 10:38.12 | mahatm1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.12 | mahatm1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:38.57 | linuxboyfriend | wols, actually i wanna know that is linux following TC? |
| 10:39.28 | jm_ | Traction Control? |
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| 10:39.39 | linuxboyfriend | Ronin, I think people using linux do not have to scare of TC and DRM. Am i right? |
| 10:40.08 | wols | linuxboyfriend: certainly not for the reasons it was invented. you won't get DRM for movies from linux. never. cause it would mean to give up any self compiling. E.g. you either get your software from RH (who will have to pay a LOT for the priviledge of signing their shit) |
| 10:40.10 | Ronin | jm_: transport canada |
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| 10:40.54 | wols | or you wouldn't get it at all. basically TC and DRM as envisioned by hollywood kills free software utterly. What good is a linux kernel source if you can't make a working kernel out of it? |
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| 10:41.33 | thenewguy | ok, dhclient manually isnt working, pump isnt working, anything else i could try? |
| 10:41.36 | linuxboyfriend | wols, thats what i like about Open Source :) |
| 10:42.27 | liable | thenewguy: try pppoeconf |
| 10:42.29 | opqdonut | when installing debian with the net install floppies, i get "archdetect: /lib/libdebian-install.so.4: version LIBDI_4.5 not found (required by archdetect)" |
| 10:42.35 | linuxboyfriend | wols, many of my friends are looking for to upgrade to Vista, I advised them about linux but ... now they have to face the facts (losses) |
| 10:42.38 | bartden | how can i find the default mixer debian i using, im using a snd-i8x0 soundcard, and i would like to link the mixer to /dev/mixer ?? |
| 10:43.15 | wols | vista won't change anything, only place I can see is if they want to watch stuff from itunes or other commercial video site |
| 10:43.20 | wols | then maybe, but only maybe |
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| 10:44.27 | thenewguy | ahh, looks like this things beaten me then |
| 10:44.31 | thenewguy | thanks for your help |
| 10:44.59 | wols | is eth0 up while you try dhcp? |
| 10:45.09 | thenewguy | wols; yes |
| 10:45.27 | thenewguy | link up, 100Mbits |
| 10:45.36 | thenewguy | i can even ping my router... |
| 10:45.46 | wols | try it when it's down (cluting at straws here) |
| 10:45.55 | liable | thenewguy: set a staic ip then |
| 10:45.55 | linuxboyfriend | wols, ok thx |
| 10:46.08 | wols | thenewguy: tho,when you have such a router, just enter a static IP. it should work fine |
| 10:46.24 | thenewguy | liable; i tryed that, but i could ping my router, but not outside world |
| 10:46.37 | jm_ | bartden: why? use alsamixer |
| 10:46.48 | wols | thenewguy: then your gateway wasn't set properly |
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| 10:47.01 | thenewguy | ok, ill try again with static |
| 10:47.02 | liable | thenewguy: and what was the output from route? set the default gateway to your routers ip. |
| 10:47.19 | bartden | jm_ because i'm using hotkeys, and my hotkey for changing uses /dev/mixer, so i would like to link my mixer to /dev/mixer |
| 10:47.27 | takisd | downloaded latest etch installer for laptop install cdrom is sata - fails cdrom search - no module - ideas?? |
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| 10:47.51 | E-bola | Hi all |
| 10:48.04 | jm_ | bartden: do you know that /dev/mixer is refering to OSS device? |
| 10:48.11 | wols | thenewguy: you will need a "gateway" line in your interfaces file under eth0 |
| 10:48.19 | E-bola | I have 3 nic's in my server. 2 pci 3com. and 1 intel onboard. I have used the 2 3coms for 3 years while the onboard have been unused |
| 10:48.29 | bartden | no i want to refer /dev/mixer to the OSS device |
| 10:48.30 | E-bola | i now need to config the onboard nic, how do i get it registered as eth2? |
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| 10:48.32 | wols | gateway 192.168.100.1 probably. also you need to set DNS in /etc/resolv.conf to your router |
| 10:48.43 | bartden | jm_ so i need the OSS device to refer to |
| 10:48.48 | wols | E-bola: do you already have eth0 and eth1? |
| 10:48.50 | E-bola | how does linux/debian map a nic to a ethX number |
| 10:48.53 | E-bola | wols: yes |
| 10:48.55 | jm_ | bartden: that is the OSS device ... |
| 10:49.07 | E-bola | wols: i would like the onboard to be eth2 |
| 10:49.21 | wols | E-bola: then just load the driver and then configure IP, etc in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:49.38 | wols | mapping is done via that file too I think, but if you already have eth0 and ath1, there is no need |
| 10:49.54 | E-bola | Wols: i tihnk enabling the driver might re-arrange the numbering |
| 10:49.55 | bartden | jm_ hmm, when i use the hotkey, it says Unable to open `/dev/mixer': No such file or directory (and the dev isnt there) |
| 10:50.01 | E-bola | so i get like the onboard to be eth0 |
| 10:50.03 | E-bola | on a reboot |
| 10:50.07 | ubushine | hey folks, new sarge install 2.6.8 (1st time deb user). i was reading about a security update: DSA-1017-1 kernel-source-2.6.8 -- several vulnerabilities |
| 10:50.08 | wols | E-bola: no it does not |
| 10:50.27 | wols | the last loaded driver gets the highest number |
| 10:50.30 | wols | first one gets eth0 |
| 10:50.35 | ubushine | does apt-get update and apt-get upgrade make my system secure even for kernel upgrades or is there something manual that i have to do? |
| 10:50.50 | wols | ubushine: doesn't update kernels |
| 10:50.53 | E-bola | ok |
| 10:51.01 | Shadur | ubushine: If you're using stock debian kernels, then yes. |
| 10:51.05 | E-bola | wols: shouldnt linux already have loaded the driver for the onboard nic? |
| 10:51.06 | ubushine | wols, no? so i have to do this thing manually? |
| 10:51.09 | jm_ | bartden: you need to load relevant module first |
| 10:51.18 | Shadur | wols: Wrong. |
| 10:51.19 | wols | Shadur: it updates kernels? |
| 10:51.21 | ubushine | Shadur, yes stock 2.6.8 kernel |
| 10:51.35 | wols | so it goes from 2.6.8-2 to 2.6.8-3? |
| 10:51.40 | Shadur | wols: Yup. |
| 10:51.46 | bartden | jm_ i runned alsaconf and my sound works, so i guess the modules are loaded , when i chech lsmod i see |
| 10:51.46 | bartden | snd_intel8x0 31040 3 |
| 10:51.46 | bartden | snd_ac97_codec 82296 1 snd_intel8x0 |
| 10:51.51 | E-bola | i can see it in lspci, its listed as intel corp 82801BD PRO/100 VE |
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| 10:52.24 | Kinks | wols: I think you can even apt-get remove your kernel if you feel like it |
| 10:52.30 | ubushine | Shadur, so i have this security update already? because i don't remember having to reboot within the last week? |
| 10:52.50 | Shadur | No, you will need to reboot before a new kernel is active. That doesn't change. |
| 10:52.50 | thenewguy | hmm, if set up my gateway in /etc/network/interfaces, but route just shows: |
| 10:53.10 | thenewguy | 192.168.100.0, and gateway column * |
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| 10:53.32 | liable | thenewguy: paste the two lines. |
| 10:53.46 | jm_ | bartden: look, we can do this either this way where you insist things are OK and they aren't, and in which case I will stop bothering with it, or you can agree with me that it isn't working and load the relevant module |
| 10:53.53 | wols | thenewguy: best paste your interfaces and the route output |
| 10:54.18 | thenewguy | ok, but ill have to type across |
| 10:54.22 | ubushine | Shadur, i don't remember my last apt-get update getting any new kernel? is there a way to check to make sure i have this latest update? then i'll reboot, because i have not for about 7 days. |
| 10:54.26 | tralala | dpkg: tell thenewguy -about paste |
| 10:54.34 | bartden | ok jm_ , but what are the relevant modules ? |
| 10:54.40 | thenewguy | ill do it on one of them pastebins |
| 10:54.44 | thenewguy | five me a minitue |
| 10:54.46 | thenewguy | give* |
| 10:55.32 | jm_ | bartden: snd_mixer_oss |
| 10:56.11 | wols | ubushine: check your menu.lst what will be loaded next time on reboot |
| 10:57.43 | ubushine | wols, title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.8-2-386 , but i'm running 2.6.8-2 now. how do i know i have the new upgrade? |
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| 10:58.02 | liable | it -3 |
| 10:58.05 | liable | its.. |
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| 10:58.13 | ubushine | 'cause that page is pretty daunting for a deb newbie. |
| 10:58.15 | wols | ubushine: dpkg -l |grep kernel |
| 10:58.27 | wols | 2.6.8-3 should at least show up |
| 10:58.36 | tralala | ubushine: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l kernel* |
| 10:59.29 | ubushine | nope -- all i have listed is the kernel i have now. 2.6.8-2-386! |
| 10:59.42 | wols | ubushine: then apt-get it |
| 11:00.09 | ubushine | wols, but that was my point. if it's a security upgrade, why didn't apt-get update/upgrade get it? |
| 11:00.43 | wols | ask shadur. my understand always was that debian wouldn't upgreade kernels without user intervention. he disagreed |
| 11:00.50 | wols | *understanding |
| 11:01.02 | wols | but I rarely if ever use debian kernels anyways |
| 11:01.36 | wols | ubushine: you could try "dist-upgrade", perhaps then it does |
| 11:01.38 | ubushine | well i'm asking, if anyone can answer |
| 11:01.45 | ubushine | tried that too |
| 11:01.58 | Shadur | wols: It won't upgrade a debian stock 2.6.8 kernel to, say, 2.6.9. But it will offer security updates for that 2.6.8. |
| 11:02.09 | wols | and play around with apt-cache policy to see if -3 is atually your "default" when getting a new one |
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| 11:02.42 | ubushine | Shadur, why didn't mine update to 2.6.3? i've got a stock debian kernel? |
| 11:02.58 | wols | ubushine: 2.6.8-3, not 2.6.3 |
| 11:02.59 | jayeola | hey chaps. mind if any one walks me through setting up lvm for a clean install of etch? |
| 11:03.05 | wols | big difference there |
| 11:03.08 | ubushine | wols, yes, sorry |
| 11:03.32 | jayeola | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:04.10 | tralala | jayeola: I've been using lvm on my box for a while now and I've regretted it. |
| 11:04.22 | wols | ubushine: looked into apt-cache policy for your kernel package yet? |
| 11:04.27 | tralala | So if you don't have to use it, don't do it. |
| 11:04.36 | wols | tralala: why regret? |
| 11:04.55 | ubushine | wols, sorry been looking through apt-cache for the new kernel update. what am i looking at, plicy? where's that? |
| 11:05.07 | thenewguy | relating to my internet problem: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2266 |
| 11:05.09 | jayeola | tralala: seriuosly? it's great for adding new disks -quickly0 which is what i need to do on that box |
| 11:05.11 | wols | apt-cache policy. tt's a command |
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| 11:05.22 | phaethon | exists a package with manpages for SDL? |
| 11:05.38 | ubushine | wols, there's a lot there. what would you like to know? |
| 11:05.45 | tralala | wols: because I have never used it to actually resize my partitions but in a couple of occasions it's been a pain to boot the PC. |
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| 11:06.10 | wols | thenewguy: looks ok. what exactly doesn't work? "ping google.com"? if so: have you set your DNS in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 11:06.24 | wols | tralala: LVM requires initrd right? |
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| 11:06.33 | bliss1_ | hi |
| 11:06.37 | tralala | jayeola: you need or you think you do? |
| 11:06.50 | thenewguy | wols: ping google.com doesnt work, but neither does pinging any ip address on the net |
| 11:06.55 | wols | ubushine: you need to look if apt-cache policy would install the -3 kernel if you apt-get it again |
| 11:07.00 | jayeola | good point. i -should- use lvm on this server.... |
| 11:07.00 | thenewguy | so i m guessing its not a dns problem, yet |
| 11:07.15 | tarzeau | has someone got a boot floppy img that is suitable for bios flashing? |
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| 11:07.27 | wols | tarzeau: www.bootdisk.com |
| 11:07.33 | bliss1_ | is it possible to get to prompt from debian DVD install so I can resize my hard disk |
| 11:07.35 | tarzeau | wols: they only have .exe shit |
| 11:07.49 | tarzeau | wols: that i can't unpack with cabextrac/orange/unshield |
| 11:07.52 | petemc | bliss1_: alt = f2 |
| 11:08.01 | ubushine | wols, not sure what to look for to see that? |
| 11:08.01 | tralala | wols: if you have anything needed for the boot on an lvm partition, yes. |
| 11:08.03 | wols | tarzeau: do you want me to send you one? |
| 11:08.15 | tarzeau | wols: that'd be great, dos622/win9x? |
| 11:08.19 | tarzeau | wols: freedos is just not suitable.... |
| 11:08.21 | wols | fuck. no real frloppy :( |
| 11:08.25 | tarzeau | wols: sengun@phys.ethz.ch |
| 11:08.27 | wols | lemme try first |
| 11:08.44 | wols | ubushine: the apt-cache policy for your kernel package |
| 11:08.50 | bliss1_ | petemc: so its just alt then f2? thanks |
| 11:09.36 | thenewguy | anyone got any ideas why i cant ping out (ip address and domains..) with http://channels.debian.net/paste/2266; i can ping the router |
| 11:09.48 | warhead | hm |
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| 11:10.09 | tralala | jayeola: if you cannot install it what makes you think that you'll be able to use & manage it? I think you shouldn't install it on a production server without a prior experience. |
| 11:10.19 | kroddn | hi. does someone know how to switch a snd_intel8x0 to use digital output over cinch? |
| 11:10.31 | jayeola | tralala: ever better point! |
| 11:11.04 | petemc | thenewguy: who told you to use those settings? |
| 11:11.20 | tarzeau | wols: you think you can do me this bootdisk? |
| 11:11.38 | tarzeau | wols: i need it urgently since i have this msi board with the ntp problem since linux kernel 2.6.12-2.6.16 with apic |
| 11:12.06 | bliss1_ | petemc; I need to run dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/dev/hda1 ; fdisk e2fsck -f /dev/hda1 resise2fs /dev/hd1 |
| 11:12.18 | thenewguy | petemc: ive worked them out; this channel told me to use a static address, and my router automagically configures to 192.168.100.1 |
| 11:12.31 | wols | tarzeau: sorry no. stupid idiots want an actually floppy even if they have "image file" as a target |
| 11:12.46 | tarzeau | wols: ok sucks. www.bootdisk.com sucks |
| 11:13.07 | tarzeau | and google sucks too for not indexing warez sites |
| 11:13.16 | petemc | thenewguy: that address on the cable modem is for a status page etc, you've made some incorrect assumptions - you need to use dhcp |
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| 11:13.42 | thenewguy | petemc: i tryed that once, had no end of problems |
| 11:13.46 | thenewguy | should I try agai?# |
| 11:13.51 | thenewguy | again?* |
| 11:14.02 | petemc | thenewguy: you do whatever you like |
| 11:14.07 | thenewguy | ok |
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| 11:14.19 | thenewguy | ill try dhcp once more; them im giving up |
| 11:14.26 | petemc | thats the spirit |
| 11:14.31 | bliss1_ | petemc: does the line above look ok to you |
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| 11:14.38 | zegnus | buenas ! |
| 11:14.41 | zegnus | saludos a todo el canal |
| 11:14.56 | tralala | thenewguy: dhcp should just work, if it doesn't you should get support from your provider, if you cannot just forget about it |
| 11:15.45 | thenewguy | ok; provider doesnt support linux, so this is my last attempt |
| 11:15.48 | thenewguy | thanks everyone |
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| 11:15.59 | petemc | thenewguy: i use ntl, its exactly the same |
| 11:16.08 | petemc | bliss1_: fine, i guess.... |
| 11:16.10 | thenewguy | ive got telewest.. |
| 11:16.18 | petemc | yes, you said |
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| 11:16.38 | bliss1_ | petemc: thanks I just needed to know for sure |
| 11:16.45 | wols | tralala: since you use a router, your provider is irrelecnat. it's only a thing between linux and your router |
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| 11:16.56 | wols | *irrelevant |
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| 11:18.25 | phogg | libqt3c102-mt is starting to annoy me |
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| 11:18.42 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 11:18.42 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 11:18.55 | thenewguy | no, still dont work |
| 11:19.03 | thenewguy | at least we tried; thanks guys |
| 11:19.22 | petemc | .. |
| 11:19.24 | wols | thenewguy: what router is it? |
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| 11:19.50 | petemc | its a cable modem |
| 11:19.57 | thenewguy | not sure what it is; its a motarolla surfboard |
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| 11:20.11 | thenewguy | but it has a coxial going in, and a cat5 comming out |
| 11:20.13 | DevilChaos | hi i seem to be missing sound module es1371 when i modprob it i get FATAL: Module es1371 not found.0000:02:10.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 08) |
| 11:20.22 | DevilChaos | is the sound card i have |
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| 11:20.46 | petemc | thenewguy: does it work with windows? you have to go through an authorization process with new setups |
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| 11:21.00 | thenewguy | petmc; yeah, it works with windows |
| 11:21.07 | thenewguy | allthough on this machine |
| 11:21.17 | thenewguy | im trying to configure on my laptop |
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| 11:21.32 | petemc | thenewguy: turn the modem off before trying a new machine |
| 11:21.48 | thenewguy | ok.. |
| 11:21.57 | thenewguy | just turn it off, connect and turn it back on again? |
| 11:22.10 | petemc | right, making sure your set for dhcp |
| 11:22.20 | thenewguy | ok, ty |
| 11:22.23 | thenewguy | ill try that |
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| 11:23.23 | kroddn | DevilChaos: find /lib/modules/ -name "es1371*" |
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| 11:24.24 | DevilChaos | add that to /lib/modules? |
| 11:24.28 | nethenson | hello |
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| 11:25.01 | kroddn | DevilChaos: no, just execute the command to see if you have that module |
| 11:25.11 | kroddn | DevilChaos: do u use alsa oder oss? |
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| 11:25.28 | DevilChaos | alsa for ensoniq |
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| 11:25.36 | kroddn | for alsa the module is named snd-ens1371 |
| 11:25.40 | DevilChaos | over oss yes |
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| 11:25.51 | tarzeau | what's the google page where it suggests letters/words while typing into the search field? |
| 11:25.59 | wols | you can use either also or oss. not both |
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| 11:26.45 | wols | tarzeau: it does for me on the normal homepage. tho it might be one of my gazillion ffox extensions which neables it |
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| 11:27.14 | tarzeau | wols: there is a special google.com &something i think... but i can't find it |
| 11:27.41 | DevilChaos | kroddn: it just went back to the promt undernieth no output |
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| 11:28.16 | tarzeau | ah it's called google suggest |
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| 11:29.20 | DevilChaos | have to go bk to work be bk later sorry |
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| 11:33.19 | thenewguy | thanks petemc; i think im now one step closer to fixing this thing |
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| 11:34.10 | ramninja | ! |
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| 11:34.35 | thenewguy | though its a little bit strange: if i turn the modem off while connecting, i get a DHCPOFFER |
| 11:34.46 | thenewguy | but i cant ping out; network unreachable |
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| 11:35.10 | thenewguy | if i turn it back on, ill still get the same message |
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| 11:35.31 | thenewguy | andif irestart with it on, i wont get any dhcp offers... |
| 11:35.55 | E-bola | How come that when i connect a second wan nic to my debian box (wehich already has 1 wan and 1 natted lan interface) i start getting matian apckages |
| 11:35.59 | E-bola | and everything breaks? |
| 11:37.21 | blondie | getting what? |
| 11:37.36 | blondie | martian? |
| 11:37.42 | E-bola | ya |
| 11:37.45 | blondie | YOU ARE AN ALIEN! |
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| 11:38.47 | E-bola | kernel reports a "martian source" |
| 11:39.00 | blondie | is that in english, or translated? |
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| 11:39.32 | thenewguy | any ideas on the dhcp modem problem? |
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| 11:40.50 | thenewguy | ah, guess it must be time for friday prayers... |
| 11:41.09 | petemc | friday reading might be a better bet |
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| 11:42.02 | thenewguy | lol |
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| 11:47.56 | thenewguy | if my modem in on, i get receive-packet failed on eth0: Network is down |
| 11:48.24 | thenewguy | otherwise its fine, but i get connect: Network is unreachable when i try to ping |
| 11:49.21 | thenewguy | anything i could try? |
| 11:49.45 | thenewguy | that first error is while trying to get an ip off dhcp |
| 11:49.49 | wols | thenewguy: the linux machine is the same machine which works undr windows? |
| 11:49.56 | flosch | hi |
| 11:50.11 | thenewguy | wols: no |
| 11:50.16 | thenewguy | its my laptop.. |
| 11:50.25 | wols | thenewguy: then use a linux live cd in the windows machine |
| 11:50.28 | wols | try knoppix |
| 11:50.44 | wols | or DSL: less to download :) |
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| 11:51.06 | thenewguy | what, to check the modem is compatable? |
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| 11:51.20 | wols | to reduce possible points of failure |
| 11:51.27 | thenewguy | ok, will do |
| 11:51.29 | wols | like MAC addres, broken NIC, etc |
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| 11:52.07 | wols | the ideal is to move gradually away from the exact setup windows uses, each time checking across the way when you change one component after the other |
| 11:52.21 | wols | this way you can find out which part of the whole is causing you problems |
| 11:52.26 | petemc | feh, its just dhcp, not rocket science |
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| 11:52.49 | thenewguy | petemc; got any ideas what im ding wrong? |
| 11:53.11 | thenewguy | doing* |
| 11:53.15 | wols | petemc: yes, but something prevents it from functioning. and it'S always better to know which ocmpononent that is |
| 11:53.20 | wols | make fixing it a lot easier |
| 11:53.46 | wols | petemc: at apparently it's not just dhcp since static IPs didn't work either |
| 11:53.54 | petemc | wols: yes it is |
| 11:54.15 | petemc | wols: whoever told him to try a static address was way off the mark |
| 11:54.44 | wols | petemc: several people, me among them did. just to make sure it's not some error related to DHCP itself |
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| 11:55.21 | petemc | wols: well, it was pointless |
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| 11:55.37 | thenewguy | later, ill go buy a crossover cable and connect these two machines and try that way |
| 11:55.41 | wols | petemc: then please enlighten us all with your great DHCP wisdom |
| 11:55.48 | wols | I'm sure thenewguy could really use it |
| 11:56.00 | petemc | wols: ive tried, theres only so much i can do |
| 11:56.25 | thenewguy | the only reason i need the net is to upgrade my kernel so my current version is not compatable with my sound card :) |
| 11:56.48 | wols | thenewguy: balderdash. everyone needs the intarweb, at any time |
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| 11:56.53 | wols | didn't you see the commercials? |
| 11:56.53 | thenewguy | can i connect debian to a windows machine with a crossover cable, and use the windows machine as agateway? |
| 11:57.13 | wols | yes you can. using windows as a shitty NAT router |
| 11:57.20 | wols | ICS is ugly |
| 11:57.26 | thenewguy | ok; ill try that |
| 11:57.29 | wols | but it sort of works |
| 11:57.46 | blondie | it's rather restrictive in terms of configuration :| |
| 11:57.52 | blondie | windows server does a better job |
| 11:57.52 | thenewguy | ill have go buy a cable later then, ty for your help |
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| 11:58.21 | thenewguy | blondie: good idea; but i think thats a bit over kill for a 20 min update job tho :0 |
| 11:58.26 | thenewguy | :) * |
| 11:58.36 | blondie | :) |
| 11:58.49 | thenewguy | i have got a copy of window server |
| 11:59.00 | wols | blondie: windows server is kind of a oxymoron anyways |
| 11:59.03 | thenewguy | but i really thought it was a bit of an oxymoron, so i never installed |
| 11:59.10 | blondie | wols: not really |
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| 12:01.53 | thenewguy | i best start reading up on using xp as a shitty little NAT router |
| 12:02.20 | thenewguy | lol; Results 1 - 10 of about 757 for using xp as a shitty little NAT router. (0.44 seconds) |
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| 12:04.56 | cubiq | Has anyone managed to set up a software raid from the debian installer? It is completely illogical :) |
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| 12:05.55 | wols | software raid for boot/ is always icky. very ifcky |
| 12:06.12 | mngrif | well, a while back i managed to set up a software raid on two 5.25" floppies and install to it |
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| 12:11.43 | E-bola2 | Can debian support 2 WAN connections? |
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| 12:13.51 | MarcoPau | I get this: Warning: Unable to determine video adapter in use in the present system when I do lilo. Does anybody know this error? |
| 12:14.50 | Sigi79 | Hi! |
| 12:14.50 | Sigi79 | @E-bola2 and MarcoPau: no idea |
| 12:14.50 | Sigi79 | my Question: I've installed Gnome 2.12.3 on Debian Testing. How can I add a shutdown option to the logout panel? I've created /var/lock/console/username and "chmod +4755 /sbin/halt" but nothing happens. |
| 12:15.40 | MarcoPau | Sigi79: I think that should come out by itself if you use gdm |
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| 12:16.20 | Vanzetti | hi |
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| 12:16.50 | Vanzetti | someone know how to install postfix and postfix-tls ? I have a strange conflict : |
| 12:16.52 | Vanzetti | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 12:16.52 | Vanzetti | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:16.52 | Vanzetti | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.03 | cubiq | wols: You don't have any good docs for setting up a software raid laying around :) I*m having problems getting this to work... |
| 12:17.23 | Vanzetti | why does not it depend for postfix ( >= 2.1.5-0 ) ? |
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| 12:17.57 | Mnabil | have any one tried xgl ? |
| 12:18.00 | Mnabil | on debian |
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| 12:18.06 | Vanzetti | Mnabil, yes |
| 12:18.08 | Eulex | Vanzetti, your problem is that you're mixing testing and unstable. |
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| 12:18.15 | Eulex | umh |
| 12:18.18 | Eulex | testing and stable |
| 12:19.13 | Vanzetti | Eulex, arf thanks :) |
| 12:19.35 | Eulex | Vanzetti, there doesn't seem to be any postfix-tls in testing and unstable and tls support seems to be built into postfix. |
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| 12:20.33 | Eulex | Vanzetti, so you don't need postfix-tls |
| 12:22.16 | Mnabil | Vanzetti: i gentoo it's peice of cake but in debian there's much problem |
| 12:22.28 | Vanzetti | Eulex, just I have some testing sources and some stable sources, I need stable release |
| 12:22.47 | Vanzetti | Mnabil, in debian you must alienise the suse rpm |
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| 12:23.25 | Mnabil | Vanzetti: YOU MEAN to apt-get it ? |
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| 12:23.57 | fedya | why does debian create automatically sites-available and a default conf filei n there rather than using httpd.conf |
| 12:24.06 | fedya | and why does it create the default site as a vhost? |
| 12:24.15 | Eulex | Vanzetti, the install the postfix from stable with apt-get install postfix/stable and then install postfix-tls |
| 12:24.28 | Eulex | Vanzetti, also, it should be very possible to compile xgl on debian |
| 12:24.29 | Vanzetti | Eulex, yes of course :) |
| 12:24.42 | Vanzetti | Eulex, yes but compile its too long |
| 12:24.55 | Vanzetti | Mnabil, you want them ? |
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| 12:26.12 | Mnabil | Vanzetti: i wanna build the xgl |
| 12:26.35 | Mnabil | i'm using kanotix , unstable |
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| 12:27.01 | Vanzetti | it exist korora |
| 12:27.27 | Vanzetti | but i'm surprised that no one had already done debian packages of xgl |
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| 12:28.49 | Holborn | Vanzetti: I was use the ubuntu ones ... and runs with a few hacks |
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| 12:29.30 | Mnabil | Vanzetti: we must make packging and how to's |
| 12:29.33 | Vanzetti | Holborn, do you follow the tutorial on ubuntu's wiki ? really easy without hacks, a lot of friend uses it |
| 12:29.42 | Mnabil | gentoo made it before |
| 12:29.53 | Vanzetti | Mnabil, yes of course |
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| 12:30.21 | Mnabil | Vanzetti: there's no compiz pkg also |
| 12:30.23 | Holborn | Vanzetti: no I was use some packages made by an italian guy ... |
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| 12:31.07 | Vanzetti | Holborn, official packages for dapper works well |
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| 12:31.14 | Vanzetti | Mnabil, alienise |
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| 12:33.43 | Holborn | Vanzetti: well I was use this ones because they put all in /opt .. and dont damage ...:) |
| 12:34.24 | Vanzetti | Holborn, oh ok, but ubuntu packages doesn't damage anything of course |
| 12:34.24 | Holborn | http://battlehorse.homelinux.net/w/Wiki.jsp?page=Xgl |
| 12:34.25 | wols | Mnabil: since you use kanotix, best ask #kanotix |
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| 12:35.19 | Mnabil | wols: i don't ask but i dicuss |
| 12:35.25 | Mnabil | ^discuss |
| 12:35.43 | cubiq | Anyone having any sort of tutorial of installing debian with software raid?? |
| 12:36.04 | fedya | ok this is very weird, i was asking last night about iptables, and i accidentally flushed the iptable, now i'm trying to log into the site again and it's working |
| 12:36.08 | fedya | could the machine have restarted? |
| 12:36.15 | js_ | cubiq: the standard installer offers that |
| 12:36.15 | fedya | oh yea i guess it did |
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| 12:36.32 | saloxin_ | cubiq: it's enabled in the installer - just partition, label as raid partitions and set them up in raid |
| 12:36.42 | cubiq | js_: yes but that one is soo totally illogical..I have no idea how to use it |
| 12:37.11 | js_ | cubiq: do you know anything about raid? |
| 12:37.14 | cubiq | So do I choose sda with LVM or without |
| 12:37.25 | js_ | cubiq: LVM isn't raid |
| 12:37.31 | cubiq | js_: Yes, that is way this is so frustrating |
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| 12:37.44 | js_ | cubiq: and you need more than one drive to create a raid device |
| 12:37.57 | cubiq | I know! :) gee |
| 12:38.08 | cubiq | I have to ide3ntical sata drives. sda and sdb |
| 12:38.39 | wols | cubiq: http://www.google.de/search?q=linux+raid+howto&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official |
| 12:38.51 | js_ | cubiq: what do you not understand with the installer? |
| 12:40.16 | cubiq | js_: Well, first of all when I choose software raid in the installer it says that I have to create the partiotions and fs first..ok np, but then when that is done I get big red signs telling me that I couldn't find and raid marked devices... |
| 12:40.45 | cubiq | js_: I'll do the isntaller again and look more carfully and Iäll ask you some more specific questions :) |
| 12:41.09 | js_ | cubiq: righto, ok |
| 12:41.28 | wols | cubiq: I hope you made separete boot/ partition? cause grub won't understand a thing of RAID |
| 12:41.32 | takisd | every kernel i install dumps with a panic and i have to recreate the image with yaird, how do you set yaird as default image creation thingy |
| 12:41.35 | cubiq | js_: sit tight :) I'll brb :) |
| 12:42.00 | cubiq | wols: yes I did :) and I know I have to install grub on both of them :) |
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| 12:43.34 | digits | can one rebind C-a (the action key) to something else? it barfs things up in bash and emacs |
| 12:44.32 | Eulex | digits, in screen? yes, see -e or escape in man screen |
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| 12:45.05 | cubiq | js_: should I use LVM or not? |
| 12:45.20 | js_ | cubiq: you should not, unless you know you want to |
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| 12:45.37 | cubiq | js_: he he good answer :) |
| 12:45.53 | js_ | cubiq: lvm offers the capability to create large volumes that you can split however you want, but it offers no performance increase or redundancy |
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| 12:46.41 | cubiq | js_: gotcha!, does it mather what partioning scheme I use? |
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| 12:47.30 | js_ | cubiq: just make sure the drives have one partition each.. its not required to create a raid device, but its the preferred way to do, and the installer might require it |
| 12:49.52 | cubiq | js_: Ah ok now I see. I have to partition my sda first thengo back and paritotion my sdb and then choose configure raid right? |
| 12:50.50 | js_ | cubiq: yes |
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| 12:57.14 | tarzeau | i love this quote: 10:29 < Diablo-D3> if gnustep suddenly becomes cool, will gnome die? |
| 12:58.18 | PumpkinPie | who wants a hug |
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| 13:00.22 | wols | tarzeau: don't get your hopes up :) |
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| 13:00.39 | antlarr | hi, what was the url of the form where one can ask about the status of a package ? |
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| 13:00.59 | wols | bugs.debian.org or packages.debian.org? |
| 13:01.46 | antlarr | I remember the subdomain was different |
| 13:02.04 | wols | well then explain what you mean with "status" |
| 13:02.07 | antlarr | the page showed if a package was build for one or another architecture |
| 13:02.36 | petemc | http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=foo ? |
| 13:02.36 | antlarr | and if the compilation for an architecture failed, it showed the errors |
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| 13:03.54 | stew | antlarr: http://packages.qa.debian.org/packagename ? buildd.debian.org? |
| 13:03.54 | antlarr | petemc: nice one, but it wasn't that one neither |
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| 13:04.10 | wols | packages.debian.org will show you if said arch has that package |
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| 13:04.28 | nyk2005_ | I have the problem that my apache server is being used a open proxy, how can I dissalow that? |
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| 13:06.21 | sep | nyk2005_, /etc/init.d/apache stop . or did you think we magicaly read your config and located your errors and told you on what line to do a config change ? |
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| 13:08.25 | antlarr | it isn't any of those, but thanks anyway |
| 13:09.41 | stew | antlarr: realy? its not the buildd link from packages.qa.debian.org? |
| 13:09.57 | antlarr | let me check again |
| 13:10.10 | stew | http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?pkg=packagename |
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| 13:10.37 | antlarr | nop |
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| 13:10.56 | antlarr | the page I say showed a table where each column says an arch |
| 13:11.18 | antlarr | and below the arch name, it says: Failed, Installed and so |
| 13:11.35 | Nowak | http://pastebin.com/632552 |
| 13:11.39 | Nowak | any ideas ? |
| 13:12.10 | E-bola2 | Does debian standard kernels support CONNMARK? |
| 13:12.12 | E-bola2 | for iptables |
| 13:12.21 | stew | antlarr: yeah, go to the maintainers page in qa.debian.org, then click on the package |
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| 13:13.22 | E-bola2 | ip_conntrack 35756 2 ipt_state,iptable_nat |
| 13:13.27 | E-bola2 | guess it does |
| 13:13.30 | stew | antlarr: go to packages.qa.debian.org/packagename, click on the maintainer in the upper left, then click on "more" for that package |
| 13:13.59 | odb|fidel_ | helo, someone can assist me in adding a second monitor to my xorg.conf/debian ? |
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| 13:14.14 | stew | E-bola2: it does, but not with conttrack, but ipt_CONNMARK |
| 13:14.27 | odb|fidel_ | are there specific switches for TFT's on DVI ? |
| 13:15.07 | stew | odb|fidel_: for a tft on dvi, just remove the refresh rates from the monitor section in xorg.conf and they will be probed from the monitor |
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| 13:15.24 | stew | odb|fidel_: (as will the native resolution) |
| 13:15.31 | antlarr | stew: yesss |
| 13:16.01 | cubiq | js_: I did the following. Erased and creted a single partition on sda. Write chagnes to disk. Went back. did the sam thing on sdb. Went back then I chose configure Raid and when I try to create MD device I get the following error. "NO unused partition of the type Linux Raid Autodetect are available." What went wrong??? |
| 13:16.02 | odb|fidel_ | no just add a new section screen, without mode & refresh rates ? |
| 13:16.05 | odb|fidel_ | so |
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| 13:16.32 | js_ | cubiq: did the installer set filesystem and mountpoints for sda1 and sdb1? |
| 13:17.03 | stew | cubiq: did you set the partition type in fdisk? |
| 13:17.10 | antlarr | stew: thanks! |
| 13:17.32 | cubiq | js_: I think I missed that part. Use as: ext3..should be RAID :) |
| 13:17.40 | cubiq | I didn't find that option before |
| 13:18.16 | odb|fidel_ | stew: i rearranged my xorg.conf using dexconf. |
| 13:18.20 | cubiq | Recnfiguring...... |
| 13:18.26 | odb|fidel_ | then my old default screen is working well |
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| 13:18.53 | antlarr | stew: to be exact, this is the page I was looking for: http://people.debian.org/~igloo/status.php?email=&packages=PACKAGENAME&arches= |
| 13:19.07 | peppo | hello. how do I rotate auth.log by choice? I have some failed login entries from myself which means DenyHosts automatically blacklists me :( |
| 13:20.02 | cubiq | js_: Should I have the bootable flag on or off on the raid enabled sda1 and sb1? |
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| 13:22.12 | Eclipser | god damnit |
| 13:22.24 | stew | cubiq: the linux bootloaders don't care about the bootable flag |
| 13:22.29 | Eclipser | fcking etch can't keep my devices in the same order on each boot |
| 13:22.53 | stew | Eclipser: which devices? |
| 13:23.02 | jm_ | cubiq: some BIOS-es will not boot it if you don't, but it's not really needed |
| 13:23.05 | wols | cubiq: "bootable" doesn't matter with grub or linux |
| 13:23.06 | Eclipser | sound card and NICs |
| 13:23.11 | Eclipser | soundcards* |
| 13:23.13 | jm_ | well as long as you don't have such BIOS |
| 13:23.21 | stew | Eclipser: for nics use ifrename |
| 13:23.35 | Eclipser | I tried that sometime ago but I couldn't get it working |
| 13:23.43 | wols | js_: bootable fralgs are only interpreted by the MBR bootloader, nothing else |
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| 13:24.00 | stew | Eclipser: for sound cards they should be modprobed in the order listed in /etc/modules |
| 13:24.04 | stew | (i think) |
| 13:24.08 | peppo | can anyone help me to rotate a log manually? :/ |
| 13:24.13 | cubiq | wols: OK thx :) |
| 13:24.16 | wols | Eclipser: enter the modules you need to load for NICs onto /etc/modutils/. that way they get loaded the same way every boot |
| 13:24.23 | peppo | i.e. not wait for syslogd/logrotate to do it |
| 13:24.46 | jm_ | peppo: it's not syslogd doing it, it's cron job |
| 13:25.06 | peppo | I can't find anything in crontab -e |
| 13:25.09 | peppo | which user runs it? |
| 13:25.31 | jm_ | that would be because it's specified in /etc/cron*/* |
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| 13:25.53 | stew | peppo: i think you can: logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.d/somelogrotatefile |
| 13:26.14 | peppo | stew, unfortunately auth.log isn't there |
| 13:26.52 | stew | peppo: logrotate runs out of /etc/cron.daily |
| 13:27.20 | peppo | /etc/logrotate.conf doesn't list anything concerning auth.log |
| 13:27.23 | peppo | which is the file I need to reset |
| 13:27.33 | peppo | because DenyHosts keeps blocking out my own IP for ssh login |
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| 13:28.18 | cubiq | Wee now I'm getting somewhere :) But I got a strange error when creating my partiotion on the MD device. Something with Linux not being able to read som info until reboot.... |
| 13:28.37 | jm_ | auth.log is handled by savelog |
| 13:29.25 | peppo | savelog -g adm -m 640 -u root -c 7 /var/log/auth.log >/dev/null ? |
| 13:29.43 | jm_ | see relevant cron job for details |
| 13:29.51 | peppo | I'm looking at it |
| 13:29.56 | peppo | it's a script that I don't understand at all |
| 13:30.14 | peppo | in cron.daily |
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| 13:31.03 | peppo | ah |
| 13:31.14 | peppo | running /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd fixed it |
| 13:31.41 | peppo | crap |
| 13:31.44 | peppo | it still blacklists me |
| 13:31.53 | peppo | even though I've not even made any login attempts into the new auth.log |
| 13:32.01 | jm_ | maybe it's smart enough and looks in auth.log.0 too? :) |
| 13:32.06 | peppo | I removed them |
| 13:32.10 | jm_ | i.e. if the logfile has just rotated, not uncommon |
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| 13:33.18 | Eclipser | wols, easier said than done :p |
| 13:33.18 | peppo | damn. auth.log is empty but still it gives "new denied hosts: ['MYHOST', 'MYIP']" |
| 13:33.31 | jm_ | then you need to debug this tool |
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| 13:35.27 | peppo | jm_, oh. it has its own data/ dir |
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| 13:35.38 | peppo | and I have to specify --purge if it should re-read /etc/hosts.deny |
| 13:36.14 | Eclipser | I added yesterday "options snd-emu10k1 index=0\noptions snd-intel8x0 index=1" to my /etc/modutils/alsa-base (though they're still loaded in the wrong order, I assumed emu10k1 would've been hw:1,0 - not hw:2,0), should I do something similar for my NICs? |
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| 13:37.11 | stew | Eclipser: is snd-emu10k1 in /etc/modules? |
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| 13:37.16 | Eclipser | no |
| 13:37.29 | stew | Eclipser: put it, and the other card in there, in the order you want them loaded |
| 13:37.32 | GoAuLd | eclipser, why you do not use hotplug or udev instead of that ? |
| 13:38.01 | Eclipser | GoAuLd, something in dist-upgrade to etch told me to remove hotplug :p |
| 13:38.12 | Eclipser | can't remember what :o |
| 13:38.18 | GoAuLd | maybe udev replaced hotplug |
| 13:38.32 | pathfind | in Openssl -- is this correct: -ALL:RC4-MD5:RC4 or this: -ALL:RC4-MD5:RC4:+RC4 if I prefer to try RC4-MD5, before all other RC4 |
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| 13:38.59 | GoAuLd | anyway u have to have 2.6.15 to use its full capabilitys (or to use some of it) |
| 13:39.12 | Eclipser | udevs? |
| 13:39.21 | Eclipser | I don't feel like installing a new kernel :p |
| 13:39.34 | GoAuLd | udev - /dev/ and hotplug management daemon |
| 13:40.17 | Eclipser | should've stayed in sarge :p |
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| 13:43.28 | cubiq | Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/md/0p1 -- Invalid argument. This means Linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/md/0p1 until you reboot -- so you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way before rebooting. ERROR!!! |
| 13:44.28 | dak | . |
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| 13:45.01 | bab_ | Hello! running the ati drivers for xfree86 just crashes the terminal, complaining about some checksum and bash errors. Sound familiar to any1? |
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| 13:46.03 | clausen | Hey.. I have sat my debian box up as a router.. and I can use one of the netcards to connect to the debian box, but the other does not work.. I have the same configuration for both cards.. somebody who can tell me why ? |
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| 13:46.39 | Eclipser | gosh, we'll see if I'm calm enough tomorrow to configure this box properly |
| 13:46.54 | Eclipser | now I REALLY don't feel like configuring anything... I better just boot to windows |
| 13:48.19 | clausen | Note: the dhcp server offers my an ip address when I use the other netcard |
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| 13:48.43 | gentgeen__ | clausen, does 'ipconfig' show both cards? |
| 13:48.55 | clausen | gentgeen__, yep! |
| 13:48.56 | Eclipser | ifconfig... |
| 13:49.18 | gentgeen__ | opps, living in Windows World lately :) |
| 13:49.25 | clausen | they are both there.. |
| 13:49.29 | clausen | hehe ;) |
| 13:50.07 | gentgeen__ | The DHCP server, is it yours? or your ISP? |
| 13:50.17 | clausen | my own |
| 13:50.28 | wols | clausen: you sound a bit confused. can you descript your setup a little more in detail? |
| 13:50.53 | row | if I run "xset b off" will the setting be reset at boot? |
| 13:50.58 | blondie | wols: describe |
| 13:51.00 | wols | like what clients are there for your debian router? |
| 13:51.03 | clausen | vols: I sure am ;) I have three netcards in the box.1 for the internet from a cable mode, second and third for routing internet to my network |
| 13:51.05 | chrisq | row: yes |
| 13:51.23 | clausen | vols: cable mode=modem |
| 13:51.33 | row | chrisq: where/how is the best place to turn terminal beeping off for good, for all users? |
| 13:51.33 | wols | blondie: shall I send you all my utterings in advance so you can correct for orthographical and grammatical errors? |
| 13:51.37 | chrisq | row: if you use gnome set it up in the session manager |
| 13:51.43 | blondie | wols: sure |
| 13:51.56 | row | chrisq: I use windowmaker :/ |
| 13:52.12 | gentgeen__ | clausen, why 2 cards for internal network? is that needed?? |
| 13:52.15 | chrisq | row: not sure what would be the easiest way, but look at the gnome session manager and gdm |
| 13:52.29 | clausen | gentgeen__, : Dont have a swtichbox |
| 13:52.36 | wols | clausen: set your 2 internal NICs to different networks. e.g. 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.2.0/24, both with netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 13:52.48 | chrisq | row: then maybe something like .xinitrc might work |
| 13:52.48 | wols | gentgeen__: basically he uses his debian router as a switch |
| 13:52.53 | gentgeen__ | right |
| 13:53.24 | clausen | vols: okay.. in the dhcp server ? |
| 13:53.36 | strider | row: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/110 |
| 13:53.49 | gentgeen__ | Set the "outside" card to DHCP, and the 2 inside to something like wols said |
| 13:53.50 | row | strider: ta |
| 13:53.51 | wols | depending how you get your IPs. and my nick is Wols. W, doubleu |
| 13:54.06 | gentgeen__ | where is the DHCP server ... is it the same router box? |
| 13:54.16 | wols | gentgeen__: hw could use ndsmasq as a internel dhcp server |
| 13:54.17 | clausen | gentgeen__, Yes it is |
| 13:54.26 | wols | *dsnmasq |
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| 13:56.07 | clausen | vols: how do it set the two internal NICS ? |
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| 13:56.42 | pathfind | -ALL:RC4-MD5:RC4:+RC4 <<< if I want to move the generally RC4 Cipher to the End, should I add +RC4 ? |
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| 13:58.36 | Tidus | gentgeen__: i'm using a debian box as my router. |
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| 13:58.44 | Tidus | what can i help ya with? |
| 13:59.28 | clausen | Tidus: We are discussing why only one of my netcards work, when they have the same configuration.. I have 3 cards, one for the internet, and two to route to internet to my network |
| 13:59.51 | Tidus | hm... i only have 2 nics in my router. |
| 13:59.59 | Tidus | one to the cable modem, the other to a 16 port switch |
| 14:00.09 | bab_ | Searching for glibc in the package manager I only get the libg++ package. Is this a substitute for glibc? or does it contain glibc? |
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| 14:00.24 | Tidus | bab_: it's libc6 on debian |
| 14:00.32 | py | hello! |
| 14:00.39 | bab_ | okay... |
| 14:00.39 | clausen | Tidus,: can it be done by adding alliases for the cards or something ? |
| 14:00.49 | Tidus | lemme log into it |
| 14:01.22 | Tidus | clausen: i'm still trying to figure out why you need 3 cards |
| 14:01.22 | wols | clausen: no |
| 14:01.37 | wols | cause his router will then act as a switch |
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| 14:01.54 | clausen | vols: Exactly |
| 14:02.12 | wols | there is no vols |
| 14:02.14 | tazos | how to set the font size of the kdm login? |
| 14:02.15 | Tidus | it'd probably be a LOT easier if you just had 2 nics and a separate switch |
| 14:02.30 | clausen | wols, sorry ;) hehe |
| 14:02.35 | wols | Tidus: no it's dead easy even without a switch |
| 14:03.03 | clausen | wols, how do you set up 2 seperate NICs ? |
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| 14:03.40 | wols | in your case you give them distinc IPs in distinct subnets |
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| 14:03.48 | wols | *distinct |
| 14:04.01 | tazos | how, guys, how? |
| 14:04.12 | clausen | wols, okay. in my dhcp server ? |
| 14:04.24 | Tidus | i went for simplicity of configuration on mine... eth0 (a 3com 3C905-TX) goes to the internal network, static ip 192.168.x.1. eth1 connects to the cable modem, using DHCP. i used a gentoo home router howto (slightly modified) to get it all patched together. |
| 14:04.29 | wols | you should know how to set IPs |
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| 14:05.00 | clausen | wols, sure but I am a little confused at the moment. |
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| 14:05.03 | wols | Tidus: install debian, apt-get install ipmasq dnsmasq. done. no fany howtos |
| 14:05.19 | wols | then it's best to calm down and un-confuse |
| 14:05.33 | tazos | wtf, talking rubbish only. |
| 14:05.41 | bab_ | The official ati driver installer (8.23.7) refuses to run on my system. Has any1 experienced a similar problem? |
| 14:05.42 | Tidus | wols: not exactly. kernel modules didn't exist. |
| 14:05.44 | py | On a debian sarge box, I'm trying to understand how timezone related stuff is working. There seems to be 2 files in /etc about this: /etc/timezone, which is a text file containing in plain english the current timezone, and /etc/localtime, which is a symlink to a binary file in /usr/share/zone/info. What purposes do those file serve? Don't they duplicate somewhat the information? |
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| 14:06.02 | wols | Tidus: with an official debian kernel and ipmasq, everything you need exists. all of it |
| 14:06.19 | Tidus | wols: wouldn't work for me, plus i hand-configged the iptables rules. |
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| 14:06.48 | wols | which is another error you made. why hand config? |
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| 14:07.04 | Tidus | wols: only pieces of software i needed were the kernel, iptables, and dnsmasq |
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| 14:07.20 | wols | tell bab_ about ati drivers |
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| 14:08.15 | wols | all I needed were kernel, uptables, dnsmasq and ipmasq (which are a bunch of shell script initializing NAT in an easy and SECURE way) |
| 14:08.40 | gentgeen__ | clausen, did you get it straight... I had to take a call :) |
| 14:08.50 | Tidus | wols: don't automagically assume insecure when somebody says they hand-configged something. |
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| 14:09.13 | wols | Tidus: I always do since it's the truth. doesn't matter if someone else or myself configures it |
| 14:09.34 | wols | one offs always increases error rate |
| 14:09.36 | Tidus | wols: not necessarily. i had a hacker buddy of mine try to break it... he didn't get in. |
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| 14:10.03 | wols | dream on |
| 14:10.27 | js_ | can i use the install cd to rescue my system somehow? |
| 14:10.35 | Tidus | and i've seen the ipmasq script. 'tis the same thing i did to mine, just in a slightly different order. |
| 14:10.45 | wols | js_: not anymore I think woody could but not sarge :( |
| 14:10.59 | Tidus | js_: any livecd will do the trick |
| 14:11.10 | js_ | ok, thanks |
| 14:11.24 | Tidus | js_: as long as you're comfortable mounting partitions by hand, you should be able to get in there and fix whatever broke. |
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| 14:13.04 | cubiq | Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/md/0p1 -- Invalid argument. This means Linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/md/0p1 until you reboot -- so you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way before rebooting. ERROR!!! |
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| 14:14.13 | Tidus | wols: the only real reason i hand configged it was so it'd be a learning experience for me. i wanted to learn what went on behind the scenes so i did it by hand that way. my last router was a suse 9.2 machine using the automated scripts built in there... i have no problems with using the tools if they're available |
| 14:15.01 | wols | lets put it this way: ipmasq will seemlessly change for you if iptables ever changes (it did when ipchains was obsoleted by iptables) |
| 14:15.14 | wols | with your setuip you have to look out for everything yourself |
| 14:15.35 | Tidus | wols: which i don't mind doing... i'm normally a gentoo user, but my router's too slow to run it. |
| 14:16.03 | Tidus | if something breaks, i wanna learn how to fix it. |
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| 14:16.47 | wols | yes it takes ages, but it will work |
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| 14:16.54 | Tidus | i know how to build my own kernel... just about every linux machine i run has a custom kernel |
| 14:17.12 | streuner | !gentoosmite wols |
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| 14:17.30 | streuner | wols: that's not only the issue... |
| 14:17.31 | wols | streuner: it's a 486. it takes at least 20 days |
| 14:17.57 | Tidus | wols: i could've waited for it to crank out stuff with 32mb of ram, but when it's swapping more than it's actually working, i needed something else. |
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| 14:18.02 | wols | streuner: well the software is the same, debian or gentoo, so that hardware must be able to run both |
| 14:18.05 | krakl | I'm doing an i386 netinstall (testing), downloading files stopped, any other way than reboot? |
| 14:18.28 | streuner | wols: for a 486 prolly |
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| 14:18.57 | streuner | krakl: did you verify the iso itself? |
| 14:19.12 | krakl | yes |
| 14:19.20 | Tidus | wols: even the debian installer required me to run it in low memory mode. |
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| 14:19.54 | streuner | krakl: try to open a shell and run 'apt-get -f install' |
| 14:20.28 | streuner | sarge and 486 is no big fun |
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| 14:20.54 | streuner | you should spent some money for a pentium, second hand there are really cheap |
| 14:20.57 | wols | streuner: it |
| 14:20.59 | wols | it's fine |
| 14:21.13 | Tidus | my router's a p166 with 32mb of ram |
| 14:21.18 | krakl | says /bin/sh: apt-get: not found |
| 14:21.28 | Tidus | paid 5 bucks for it. |
| 14:21.29 | wols | I ran sarge, samba, mailerserv, apache (no php :) ) on it |
| 14:21.37 | streuner | krakl: ok, so the basic system isn't installed |
| 14:21.57 | streuner | krakl: try it again... |
| 14:21.57 | clausen | gentgeen__, No, stil same problem |
| 14:22.00 | Tidus | right now its running etch, dovecot-imap4, and not much else... |
| 14:22.01 | cubiq | wols: Have you any idea why I get this when I try to partition my RAID. Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/md/0p1 -- Invalid argument. This means Linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/md/0p1 until you reboot -- so you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way before rebooting. ERROR!!! |
| 14:22.08 | wols | cubiq: no, sorry |
| 14:22.18 | wols | cubiq: looked at the software raid howto? |
| 14:22.27 | cubiq | OK, hmm |
| 14:22.46 | cubiq | yepp didn't anything but I'll google around for some answers :) |
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| 14:23.25 | gentgeen__ | clausen, to set the NICs -- edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:23.33 | gentgeen__ | each card should have an entry |
| 14:23.43 | gentgeen__ | 1 with DHCP, other two with static |
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| 14:23.52 | krakl | same |
| 14:23.58 | gentgeen__ | google for /etc/network/interfaces and you will find some examples |
| 14:24.20 | WEKS | Yeah so I can't get a IP in from DHCP in Debian (or any other distro I have tried, exepct Knoppix, Knoppix works fine) |
| 14:24.37 | gentgeen__ | The box with the the 3 nics (your router/switch) is also you DHCP server right? |
| 14:24.41 | clausen | gentgeen__, have done that : iface eth0 inet static |
| 14:24.41 | clausen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:24.42 | clausen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:24.57 | Tidus | pm me and i'll show you mine |
| 14:25.11 | clausen | gentgeen__, : right |
| 14:25.16 | gentgeen__ | clausen, save yourself... don't paste here |
| 14:25.27 | clausen | gentgeen__, : sry |
| 14:25.49 | wols | cubiq: which one is your eth that's connected to the cable modem? |
| 14:25.49 | gentgeen__ | OK, now you need to the DHCP to had out address to both of the static cards |
| 14:26.12 | Tidus | WEKS: is dhclient3 installed? |
| 14:26.16 | cubiq | wols: Wrong guy huh :) |
| 14:26.40 | WEKS | I just have a Debian base install right now... |
| 14:26.47 | wols | cubiq: yes. not enough different letters in the alphabet :) |
| 14:26.49 | clausen | gentgeen__, I have installed the dhcp server to do it on both the netcards and have set a submask up |
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| 14:27.03 | Tidus | WEKS: the debian base install should include a dhcp client... |
| 14:27.16 | WEKS | dhclient eth0 gave me a DHCPOFFER once but never again |
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| 14:27.21 | dennis_p | On the etch netinstall powerpc CD the kernel is: /install/powerpc/vmlinux Is that kernel the same as has been intstalled and can I use it for my bootx bootloader? |
| 14:27.34 | WEKS | and I tried it for like 20 times |
| 14:27.47 | Tidus | WEKS: is the card attached to a router or directly to cable / dsl / etc |
| 14:27.50 | gentgeen__ | you have ethX and ethY set to static, dhcp set to hand out address on those 2... and you have ethZ set to dynamic, and hooked to your router |
| 14:28.07 | WEKS | Modem -> Switch -> PC |
| 14:28.16 | Tidus | WEKS: dsl modem? |
| 14:28.19 | clausen | gentgeen__, exactly |
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| 14:28.22 | WEKS | ya |
| 14:28.24 | gentgeen__ | correction ethZ set to dynamic and hooked to your modem |
| 14:28.40 | Tidus | WEKS: ok... you might need to find a way to install rp-pppoe to make that one work |
| 14:28.43 | bilbeat | how can i do to connect debian fr |
| 14:29.03 | gentgeen__ | clausen, if 'ifconfig' shows all the addresses, you should be good to go |
| 14:29.08 | bilbeat | # debian fr |
| 14:29.12 | takisd | any way to get apt to preference a particular repo over another - want to check my local (unsigned) one before downloading from outside |
| 14:29.15 | clausen | gentgeen__, yes, and it works with one of the cards.. but when I swihch I cant ssh to my server, but I get an ip adress. |
| 14:29.16 | wols | WEKS: you sure your ISP uses dhcp? PPPoE is a lot more common with DSL |
| 14:29.17 | jengelh | `ip a` (from iputils package) shows "more" |
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| 14:29.24 | gentgeen__ | well, now you need to set up the routing betweeen all you networks |
| 14:29.32 | Tidus | wols: still DHCP assigned address tho |
| 14:29.44 | bilbeat | join #debian fr |
| 14:29.46 | wols | Tidus: with pppoe? since when? |
| 14:29.47 | gentgeen__ | clausen, remember that you now have 3 networks going into that box, most setting will assume 1 |
| 14:29.54 | wols | !fr |
| 14:29.54 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 14:29.58 | Tidus | bilbeat: /join #debian-fr |
| 14:29.59 | gentgeen__ | ssh will need to be 'allowed' on the nic you need it to be on |
| 14:30.02 | WEKS | well... I'm pretty sure |
| 14:30.19 | Tidus | wols: since the dsl companies stopped giving you a static address |
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| 14:30.27 | wols | gentgeen__: by defualt sshd listens on all interfaces. you have to go out of your way to do it different |
| 14:30.39 | wols | Tidus: but you don't use DHCP for it, duh! |
| 14:30.48 | Tidus | wols: i set up my parents dsl, still DHCP addresses, but with PPPoE to handle the username/password stuff |
| 14:30.51 | gentgeen__ | wols, OK, sorry, I stand corrected |
| 14:30.53 | clausen | gentgeen__, I dont get it.. |
| 14:31.02 | Tidus | wols: and yes you do unfortunately. |
| 14:31.08 | wols | Tidus: and I set my own dsl (and countless others). I get my IP from ppp |
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| 14:31.21 | WEKS | Well I don't use any username or password to connect... I just plug in the modem and it works |
| 14:31.28 | Tidus | wols: and ppp still pokes a dhcp server to run lol |
| 14:31.39 | wols | clausen: please tell me the IPs of both internal networkcards? |
| 14:31.47 | gentgeen__ | clausen, is this router box used for anthing else?? |
| 14:31.48 | wols | Tidus: no it does not |
| 14:32.03 | Tidus | wols: we... i'm adding you to /ignore because i've done this countless times. |
| 14:32.04 | clausen | wols, they are both 192.168.1.1 |
| 14:32.15 | clausen | gentgeen__, yes, web server etc.. |
| 14:32.22 | wols | clausen: they need to be different of course. you misconfigured it |
| 14:32.23 | WEKS | and like I said, Knoppix Live CD works with out fail |
| 14:32.35 | wols | one has to be 192.168.1.1 and the other 192.168.2.1 |
| 14:32.45 | clausen | wols, okay, ill try that |
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| 14:32.58 | aquaman | Hello. I have installed Deb from many CD's firmly telling it that nothing existed save the CD's. Now need to update for security and optional packages. How and where do I specify this. Further, how may I keep files for subsequent application elsewhere? |
| 14:33.07 | gentgeen__ | clausen, edit interfaces then /etc/init.d/network restart |
| 14:33.10 | Tidus | WEKS: may have to get rp-pppoe installed somehow. |
| 14:33.31 | wols | aquaman: if you run apt-setup you can specify where it looks (if you run sarge) |
| 14:34.00 | wols | aquaman: also apt keeps an archive of downloaded files at /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 14:34.05 | WEKS | well... OK, any suggestions on how to do that? |
| 14:34.18 | hwt | hi, i want to run debian off a flashdisk (maybe with ramdisk). any good howtos? |
| 14:34.33 | hwt | on standard IA-32 hardware. |
| 14:34.35 | wols | WEKS: a base debian install already has pppoe on board |
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| 14:35.02 | wols | WEKS: do you know if your ISP uses PPPoE? do you have to enter a username and password somewhere? |
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| 14:35.18 | WEKS | No, no usrn or psw |
| 14:35.20 | aquaman | wols- IS there a good all-purpose answer to locations questions? And I guess the occaisonal backup of /var/cache/apt/archives will do me well, woot. Thnak you. |
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| 14:35.42 | wols | aquaman: what "locations questions"? |
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| 14:35.58 | Tidus | i'm lost... i'll just shut up now until i can figure this out. |
| 14:36.10 | WEKS | In Windows I just tell it to retrive IP auto and that works fine, and Knoppix Live CD works too |
| 14:36.25 | wols | ok, then you should need to use DHCP only |
| 14:36.50 | clausen | gentgeen__, Do i have to set up a subnet for 192.168.2.0 on my dhcp server ? |
| 14:36.56 | wols | and drivers for your network card are loaded? ifconfig -a shows something? |
| 14:37.08 | Tidus | WEKS, and you're sure you have your network interface set to use dhcp, e.g. "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces/ |
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| 14:37.18 | Tidus | minus the last / |
| 14:37.20 | gentgeen__ | clausen, if you want to hand out address on that interface.. then yes |
| 14:37.28 | DevilChaos | hi |
| 14:37.37 | gentgeen__ | how many computers in the network total?? 3?? |
| 14:37.43 | WEKS | Yeah well it talks about my Realtek and stuff so I think should be alright |
| 14:37.44 | clausen | gentgeen__, okay |
| 14:37.46 | clausen | gentgeen__, Ill try |
| 14:37.59 | aquaman | wols- Sorry. Reading the console I assumed some sort of relativity. Ooops. Am at 'Choose Debian mirror to use', would prefer a pool/round-robin/something that I don't have to hand-specify each source, and that I don't hammer busy distribution points. Thnaks. |
| 14:38.31 | WEKS | and it does sends DHCPREQUESTS and DISCOVERS and all that on dhclient eth0 |
| 14:38.46 | wols | aquaman: ftp.debian.org might work, but usually you're better of specifying a mirror |
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| 14:38.52 | WEKS | but I have just once gotten a DHCPOFFER |
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| 14:39.16 | wols | aquaman: choose the mirror nearest to you |
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| 14:39.53 | gentgeen__ | "choose the mirror nearest to you" --- I have always wondered how you figure that out (unless you know the names) |
| 14:40.10 | _rene_ | gentgeen__: you look for it. e.g. ftp.xx.debian.org |
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| 14:40.16 | wols | well, I'm german, so I use a ftp.de.debian.org mirror for example |
| 14:40.17 | _rene_ | xx == country code |
| 14:40.25 | _rene_ | or you know which unis / etc are near to you |
| 14:40.29 | DevilChaos | i believe im missing a module es1371 when i modprobe i get this FATAL: Module es1371 not found.0000:02:10.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 08) is my sound card with alsa installed was in earlier but had to go bk to work anyone help? |
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| 14:40.35 | cyzie | hello, how to know what model is the hdd and what hdd controller is that? |
| 14:40.37 | _rene_ | and you use that |
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| 14:41.02 | wols | cyzie: lspci -v for controller and hdparm -i /dev/hdaX for harddisk |
| 14:41.37 | cyzie | wols, thanks. let me try. |
| 14:41.39 | aquaman | wols- Okay, chose 'mirrors.debian.org', off for the multi-meg via D/L. FYI- I'm chasing madwifi, which didn't seem to off what disc's I had: So, might come back later for PCMCIA/Cardbus brain picking. Thnak you, going quiet for duration D/L. |
| 14:41.40 | gentgeen__ | guess maybe they changed the naming some since I last did an install... when I did it last there was all kinds of different names |
| 14:42.00 | valdyn | gentgeen__: there still are |
| 14:42.27 | wols | gentgeen__: but by now each country has its "main mirrors" |
| 14:42.54 | gentgeen__ | good to know |
| 14:42.54 | wols | but since anyone can build a debian mirror on short notice themselves, there can never be an exhaustive list |
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| 14:43.37 | wols | DevilChaos: you were told to look for a kernel module with "es1371" in its name. does such a module exist? |
| 14:43.59 | valdyn | !fid es1371.ko |
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| 14:44.02 | valdyn | !fid es1371.o |
| 14:44.07 | valdyn | !find es1371.o |
| 14:44.10 | valdyn | !find es1371.ko |
| 14:44.14 | Tidus | devilchaos, the module name *should* be snd-es1371 |
| 14:44.22 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'es1371.o' (3 of 8): (/lib/modules/2.4.27-2-k7/kernel/drivers/sound/es1371.o) in base/kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.4.27-2-k6/kernel/drivers/sound/es1371.o) in base/kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k6 ;; (/lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/sound/es1371.o) in base/kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386. |
| 14:44.25 | valdyn | Tidus: no, hes just not trying to use alsa |
| 14:45.06 | Tidus | valdyn: that's the standard alsa module name, but if he's persistent on OSS, then i wouldn't know. |
| 14:45.08 | wols | DevilChaos: grep 1371 /boot/conf* |
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| 14:45.19 | WEKS | :/ |
| 14:45.37 | valdyn | DevilChaos: you're asking US why YOU custom kernel has no oss driver named es1371 ? |
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| 14:46.05 | vrt | all, i was trying a apt-get upgrade |
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| 14:46.20 | vrt | it shows some problem with the kdebase-data package. |
| 14:46.21 | Tidus | valdyn: i run a 2.6 kernel on all my linux boxes, so OSS is out of the question for me. |
| 14:46.25 | vrt | anyone seen this ? |
| 14:46.41 | wols | vrt: which branch of debian? |
| 14:46.52 | vrt | i am on sarge |
| 14:47.18 | DevilChaos | wols yes it does exist |
| 14:47.22 | vrt | i had some problems with the apt wanting to remove the kernel image |
| 14:47.33 | vrt | so i had update the sources.lst to stable. |
| 14:47.38 | abrotman | Tidus: no it's not |
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| 14:47.42 | DevilChaos | valdyn: mines is a stock kernel |
| 14:47.52 | valdyn | vrt: stable is sarge |
| 14:48.09 | abrotman | !paste |
| 14:48.09 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 14:48.14 | vrt | ok it was testing unstable before, i changed it back to stable. |
| 14:48.22 | abrotman | that will do you no good |
| 14:48.33 | wols | vrt: you cannot downgrade. cannot |
| 14:48.36 | abrotman | valdyn: how's the sunday factor today? |
| 14:48.38 | valdyn | vrt: downgrading is not supported |
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| 14:48.49 | vrt | ohh, so what can i do now?? |
| 14:48.50 | DevilChaos | tidus: 2.6 series kernel not work with oss? |
| 14:48.59 | abrotman | vrt: paste the error |
| 14:49.01 | abrotman | DevilChaos: it does |
| 14:49.02 | valdyn | abrotman: not to bad since im here ( 1 minute.. ) |
| 14:49.06 | abrotman | valdyn: hehe |
| 14:49.20 | valdyn | uh, its 5.. time flies |
| 14:49.23 | cyzie | wols, my hdd is a scsi320 hdd. /dev/hda refer to the cdrom. is that command you given ealier correcT? |
| 14:49.24 | vrt | Unpacking replacement kdebase-data ... |
| 14:49.24 | vrt | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.3.2-1sarge1_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 14:49.24 | vrt | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:49.42 | abrotman | !tell vrt about overwrite |
| 14:50.04 | wols | cyzie: most probably not. only for ATA disks. run dmesg. it should tell you what disk if it was attached on bootup |
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| 14:51.17 | abrotman | !moo |
| 14:51.17 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 14:51.19 | vrt | abrotman, thanks its fine now |
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| 14:51.53 | DevilChaos | i cant understand it it should just work did every other time iused the bloody thing |
| 14:51.54 | thenewguy | hi, ive just upgraded my kernel, gone to do a "startx" and got the error "Cannot open device /dev/psaux" |
| 14:52.04 | thenewguy | do i need to recreate that, and if so, how? |
| 14:52.11 | abrotman | !drxx thenewguy |
| 14:52.12 | dpkg | thenewguy: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 14:52.20 | abrotman | thenewguy: try choosing /dev/input/mice |
| 14:52.33 | thenewguy | ok |
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| 14:53.09 | thenewguy | !xmd5 |
| 14:53.10 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 14:53.12 | hwt | i want to run debian off a flashdisk (maybe with ramdisk). any good howtos? |
| 14:53.15 | DevilChaos | apt-get moo |
| 14:53.31 | valdyn | hwt: why would you need a special howto for that? |
| 14:53.51 | hwt | valdyn: i don't know, is it really easy? can i just pxeboot into a normal debian-installer and configure from there? |
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| 14:54.02 | vrt | guys, trying to install amarok via apt-get, apt wants to remove kde! |
| 14:54.07 | valdyn | hwt: why would you need pxeboot? |
| 14:54.17 | hwt | valdyn: i need to make sure that i don't fry the cf-card with write operations. |
| 14:54.25 | hwt | valdyn: so i figure i need to run the fs from ramdisk. |
| 14:54.31 | hwt | valdyn: or at least parts of it. |
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| 14:54.52 | valdyn | hwt: /tmp/ i guess |
| 14:54.59 | valdyn | hwt: and /var/run/ |
| 14:55.11 | hwt | valdyn: pxebooting is the simpler than attaching a cd-rom. |
| 14:55.15 | wols | vrt: you have a chimera of a debian now. with testing and stable packages. that _will_ brun and crash sooner or later |
| 14:55.20 | valdyn | hwt: ok I see |
| 14:55.26 | valdyn | hwt: nothing special to it anyway |
| 14:55.32 | abrotman | vrt: when is the last time you did an `apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade` ? |
| 14:55.34 | hwt | valdyn: and a lot more fs-es, i guess. |
| 14:55.49 | hwt | valdyn: okay, so i can specify that a certain filesystem needs to be ramdisk? |
| 14:55.57 | hwt | valdyn: in the debian-installer. |
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| 14:56.02 | vrt | i never did an dist-upgrade |
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| 14:56.11 | vrt | i just finished a upgrade now though. |
| 14:56.13 | valdyn | hwt: you can do that _after_ debian is installed |
| 14:56.13 | wols | abrotman: he ran testing/unstable. then changed back his sources to stable and tried to upgrade. now he gets errors like the above |
| 14:56.27 | tarzeau | abrotman! |
| 14:56.31 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 14:56.31 | dpkg | <morning> telnet have any recent vulns? |
| 14:56.40 | hwt | valdyn: how? |
| 14:56.40 | cyzie | anybody else know how to check the model of the hdd for scsi320 ? |
| 14:56.47 | valdyn | hwt: vi /etc/fstab |
| 14:56.49 | abrotman | tarzeau: ? |
| 14:56.57 | abrotman | wols: he should change them back! |
| 14:57.05 | hwt | valdyn: yeah, but what options. |
| 14:57.12 | tarzeau | abrotman: find a sponsor or there won't be briquolo, i'm going out today |
| 14:57.13 | valdyn | hwt: man mount |
| 14:57.19 | wols | abrotman: tell him, not me |
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| 14:57.41 | wols | tarzeau: why don't you become a dd yourself? |
| 14:57.43 | hwt | valdyn: nothing there. |
| 14:57.56 | hwt | valdyn: or in fstab(5) |
| 14:58.10 | valdyn | hwt: nothing? it explains how mounting works |
| 14:58.12 | tarzeau | wols: why don't you? |
| 14:58.20 | hwt | valdyn: i know how mounting works. |
| 14:58.29 | wols | cause I don't want briquolo or any of those other games in debian |
| 14:58.31 | valdyn | hwt: then what's your problem? |
| 14:58.37 | tarzeau | wols: because i'm still a lazy bum |
| 14:58.40 | valdyn | !spoonfeed hwt |
| 14:58.40 | dpkg | Silly hwt, Unix tricks are for bots. |
| 14:58.42 | abrotman | tarzeau: goign out where? |
| 14:58.43 | hwt | valdyn: but i need it to read the fs into memory, and perform all write operations to memory instead of to disk. |
| 14:58.52 | wols | tarzeau: gotcha |
| 14:58.55 | hwt | valdyn: and this is where i need help. |
| 14:58.58 | tarzeau | abrotman: somewhere in zurich, www.myzuri.ch |
| 14:59.09 | tarzeau | wols: hmm and maybe other software? |
| 14:59.13 | thenewguy | ive changed to /dev/input/mice and I am getting "Cannot open device /dev/input/mice" |
| 14:59.15 | abrotman | tarzeau: what does that have to do with no briquolo ? |
| 14:59.15 | hwt | valdyn: to rephrase, how do i specify that a fs should be read into ram. |
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| 14:59.22 | ILF_ | etch: |
| 14:59.23 | ILF_ | /usr/src/linux-2.6-2.6.15# debian/rules unpack |
| 14:59.23 | ILF_ | make: *** No rule to make target `unpack'. Stop. |
| 14:59.23 | abrotman | thenewguy: modprobe mousedev |
| 14:59.26 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm too lazy to look for sponsors too |
| 14:59.28 | ILF_ | what's the problem here? |
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| 14:59.34 | valdyn | hwt: you mount a ramdisk somewhere, you use cp to copy things |
| 14:59.44 | valdyn | hwt: its _that_ easy ) |
| 14:59.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've always thought if you package some software into a nice deb. it should be in debian , isn't that natural? |
| 14:59.50 | vrt | guys, with the current mess-up, what would be the best way to recover? |
| 14:59.54 | wols | tarzeau: not really. some php based stuff perhaps, but I don't like the way debian installs that stuff in the first place (like squirrelmail or phpmyadmin) |
| 15:00.08 | tarzeau | wols: ah that's nothing i want/need/use/like... |
| 15:00.16 | wols | vrt: change back to testing at least |
| 15:00.24 | tarzeau | stupid fucking firefox lockfiles |
| 15:00.32 | thenewguy | abrotman: all working now; ty |
| 15:00.40 | valdyn | hwt: initscripts are in /etc/init.d/ ( where you can put your script ), it should be run from the symlink in /etc/rcS.d/ |
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| 15:00.45 | SilverMoonDragon | ILF_, try #kernel |
| 15:00.54 | abrotman | thenewguy: you'll have to add mousedev to your /etc/modules |
| 15:01.01 | tarzeau | and thunderbird is not a single bit better . the shit |
| 15:01.04 | thenewguy | will do, thank you |
| 15:01.06 | vrt | wols, reason why i had to change to stable was some upgrades wanted to remove the kernel image itself.. |
| 15:01.07 | wols | tarzeau: a friend of mine started his own CMS. would be nice to have a deb for it. but "nice to have" is not enough reason for me to become a dd |
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| 15:01.28 | tarzeau | wols: you could get a DD to be only a sponsor :) |
| 15:01.48 | wols | my personality is not compatible with that :) |
| 15:02.23 | SilverMoonDragon | what is a dd? |
| 15:02.24 | hwt | valdyn: so it actually needs to be copied over. that's pretty ugly. |
| 15:02.32 | tarzeau | !dd |
| 15:02.32 | dpkg | well, dd is a abbreviation for Debian Developer, or man dd, or dd if=/foo/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 to produce a bootable floppy, or dd if=/dev/hdc of=image.iso to make an image of a cd/dvd |
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| 15:02.43 | valdyn | hwt: what would be better? |
| 15:02.51 | valdyn | hwt: if it appeared out of the void? |
| 15:02.59 | tarzeau | SilverMoonDragon: hey! was argent not good? |
| 15:03.13 | SilverMoonDragon | tarzeau, oh! i though you were talking about the tool dd |
| 15:03.22 | hwt | valdyn: some option in fstab that tells mount from which disk image it should load an fs. |
| 15:03.37 | argent | tarzeau, sorry, forgot |
| 15:04.00 | valdyn | hwt: fstab isnt responsible for copying things to your ramdisk |
| 15:04.40 | valdyn | hwt: you seem to be thinking you needed to do something fancy, but you dont.. |
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| 15:04.47 | hwt | valdyn: i know, but should be possible. |
| 15:05.13 | hwt | valdyn: manual "cp -R / /mnt/ramdisk && chroot /mnt/ramdisk" seems ugly. |
| 15:05.20 | valdyn | hwt: maybe look at unionfs, that can bind 2 filesystems into one directory |
| 15:05.27 | tarzeau | damn the linux ntpq(8) manual page SUKCS |
| 15:05.58 | valdyn | hwt: im not sure that's gonna help you though |
| 15:06.14 | argent | tarzeau, what is ntpq? my system does not seem to have ntpq amn page |
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| 15:06.36 | valdyn | hwt: you can use tar instead of cp if you need space on that flash disk |
| 15:06.41 | hwt | valdyn: but this is what you mean i should do, right+? the line above. |
| 15:06.52 | valdyn | hwt: yea |
| 15:06.53 | tarzeau | argent: apt-cache show ntp |
| 15:07.01 | argent | tarzeau, thanks |
| 15:07.07 | hwt | valdyn: space is not really an issue. i have 512MB which should be more than sufficient for me. |
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| 15:07.20 | argent | tarzeau, oh |
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| 15:09.12 | goron | Evolution basically hangs all of a sudden. I installed the latest package, but that didn't help. (evolution:4875): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_foreground: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed |
| 15:09.12 | goron | *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x085c4818 *** |
| 15:09.38 | azeem | sounds like the G_SLICE issue |
| 15:09.53 | azeem | goron: http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/evolution-and-new-glib-2006-03-30-19-11 |
| 15:09.56 | azeem | goron: try that |
| 15:10.22 | sepho | anybody have a acer portatil computer? |
| 15:10.31 | goron | azeem: Hmm, I would have never guessed that, let me guess it's in the Readme.Debian? |
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| 15:10.44 | azeem | goron: I don't think so |
| 15:11.01 | azeem | goron: the new glib got into testing and evolution uses it in a bad way |
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| 15:11.05 | azeem | unfortunately, a fixed evolution is not in testing yet |
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| 15:11.25 | hwt | valdyn: tmpfs is what i'm looking for. |
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| 15:11.31 | hwt | valdyn: tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noexec 0 0 |
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| 15:11.35 | hwt | valdyn: then mount / as ro. |
| 15:11.56 | goron | azeem: It's not in unstable either. |
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| 15:12.52 | goron | azeem: fix works, thanks :) |
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| 15:12.59 | azeem | goron: the version in unstable is fixed, I mean |
| 15:13.06 | azeem | evolution-2.6 will hit experimental soon |
| 15:13.12 | goron | azeem: no, it's not. |
| 15:13.18 | azeem | eh? |
| 15:13.25 | goron | azeem: Without G_SLICE=always-malloc evolution it doesn't work |
| 15:13.41 | azeem | goron: which version of evolution do you have installed? |
| 15:13.43 | goron | azeem: Just executing "evolution" does not work. |
| 15:13.54 | goron | azeem: Gnome evolution-2.4 2.4.2.1 |
| 15:14.01 | gnufan2 | konqueror has cached a password/username for a website, the FAQ says type "kdesu -s" but this just comes back with an error saying it isn't running. Must I restart KDE to make it forget -- Sarge |
| 15:14.03 | azeem | dpkg -l evolution |
| 15:14.03 | dpkg | No packages found matching evolution |
| 15:14.16 | goron | azeem: I did apt-get update && apt-get install evolution this morning. |
| 15:14.26 | azeem | 2.4.2.1-1 is in testing, 2.4.2.1-2 is the fixed version which is just in unstable |
| 15:14.41 | azeem | actually 2.4.2.1-1.1 might have the fix as well |
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| 15:15.05 | goron | azeem: ii evolution 2.4.2.1-2 The groupware suite |
| 15:15.12 | marcios | jonatan |
| 15:15.18 | marcios | jtgujt |
| 15:15.29 | goron | azeem: That's the one I have and it does not work when executed as "evolution" |
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| 15:16.09 | azeem | goron: you also need a fixed libgtkhtml |
| 15:16.18 | marcios | rdr5yiikiio |
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| 15:16.58 | loka | k aces regedragon |
| 15:17.05 | goron | azeem: Oh, I need to refetch every dependency to be sure. apt-get install <foo> only satisfies the dependencies, not gets everything new. |
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| 15:17.41 | azeem | goron: if you run unstable, can you verify apt-get install gtkhtml3.8 fixes it? |
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| 15:18.10 | goron | LANG=C apt-get install gtkhtml3.8 |
| 15:18.11 | goron | Reading package lists... Done |
| 15:18.11 | goron | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 15:18.11 | goron | gtkhtml3.8 is already the newest version. |
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| 15:18.15 | azeem | hrm |
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| 15:18.26 | azeem | goron: and evolution still fails without G_SLICE? |
| 15:18.29 | goron | azeem: It does not fix it. |
| 15:18.35 | goron | azeem: yes |
| 15:19.18 | goron | azeem: I also verified my package listing is up to date. |
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| 15:20.18 | azeem | well, dunno then |
| 15:20.20 | azeem | gotta run now |
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| 15:23.01 | goron | azeem: well, it works, so I don't complain, I was just trying to help. |
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| 15:25.11 | madclicker | sepski, hi |
| 15:25.23 | sepski | yes ? |
| 15:25.32 | [Thom] | I'm trying to putty (from win xp) into a debian box but keep getting "connection refused", do I have to have a port open on my firewall even though I'm not going out through the internet? |
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| 15:25.45 | madclicker | i tied the pam solution yesterday |
| 15:25.50 | madclicker | tried |
| 15:26.06 | gentgeen__ | [Thom], depends on where your firewall is |
| 15:26.11 | sepski | [Thom], if your debian have firewall on it, yes, or check that sshd is actualy running |
| 15:26.13 | madclicker | sepski, but in my case i had issues with sasl |
| 15:26.26 | [Thom] | sshd is running, I checked in 'top' |
| 15:26.42 | [Thom] | There's a firewall on my router, but both of these machines are behindit. |
| 15:26.51 | wols | [Thom]: do you run a firewall on your linux pc with sshd? |
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| 15:27.13 | wols | [Thom]: netstat -anp |grep LIST |grep ssh |
| 15:27.24 | [Thom] | I didn't specifically install one, no.. |
| 15:27.41 | [Thom] | Sarge probably installs one though? |
| 15:27.47 | wols | no it does not |
| 15:27.50 | [Thom] | ok |
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| 15:27.55 | gentgeen__ | [Thom], can you ssh from the linux pc to itself? |
| 15:28.02 | gentgeen__ | ssh localhost |
| 15:28.03 | [Thom] | gentgeen__ yes |
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| 15:28.11 | xored | how to get the "physical in' out in iptabls to filter bridging ? |
| 15:28.15 | sepski | [Thom], perhaps the windows limits outgoing connetions also |
| 15:28.31 | gentgeen__ | can you ping the linux pc from the XP machine? |
| 15:28.37 | [Thom] | gentgeen__ Yes |
| 15:28.41 | gentgeen__ | if so, then it has to be a firewall setting somewhere |
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| 15:29.02 | gentgeen__ | maybe XPs firewall.... or zonealarm or such |
| 15:29.12 | [Thom] | If sshd is listed in top,it's running right? |
| 15:29.12 | sepski | [Thom], or wrongly configured putty |
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| 15:29.20 | Detox | need a cheap wireless nic card for debian any suggestions? |
| 15:29.21 | [Thom] | No zonealarm and no windows firewall |
| 15:29.31 | cahoot | Thom using correct protocol - IIRC ssh 1 is disabled |
| 15:29.53 | sepski | [Thom], running yes. but not nessecarily listening on interfaces. netstat tells you if it is actualy listening |
| 15:30.09 | [Thom] | sepski what is the right way to configure putty? |
| 15:30.21 | [Thom] | I really didn't change anything, just ran it and plugged in the IP |
| 15:30.34 | sepski | [Thom], verify it's set to ssh and port 22 |
| 15:30.43 | wols | and ssh2, not ssh1 |
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| 15:31.02 | Serial | hello |
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| 15:31.26 | [Thom] | wols what is the difference? |
| 15:31.29 | Serial | now downloading netinstall testing |
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| 15:31.34 | [Thom] | between ssh1 and ssh2 ? |
| 15:31.36 | gentgeen__ | under session == ssh radio buton, under SSH - "preferred SSH protocal version" == 2 radio button |
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| 15:31.37 | wols | it's a different protocol |
| 15:32.01 | wols | ssh1 has some fundamental vulnerabilities which is why ssh2 was invented |
| 15:32.04 | gentgeen__ | [Thom], that was for config. PuTTY |
| 15:32.14 | [Thom] | wols, that is how it's set up |
| 15:32.18 | [Thom] | I just checked |
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| 15:32.45 | wols | to test the connection from windows to linux you could also run "telnet <linux ip> 22 |
| 15:32.47 | pizzahead | I'm trying to get two NIC cards working on two seperate segments but I'm having routing issues. What's required to get the machine to respond to traffic through the interface the traffic is sourcing through? |
| 15:32.55 | cahoot | [Thom]: what kind of auth does the ssh expect? |
| 15:32.56 | wols | if a connection is made, the network is fine |
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| 15:33.30 | wols | pizzahead: properly set up your subnets, that's all |
| 15:33.43 | pizzahead | wols: subnets are setup properly on both interfaces |
| 15:33.52 | pizzahead | two default gateways were applied though |
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| 15:34.01 | [Thom] | cahoot I don't know.. |
| 15:34.11 | wols | pizzahead: so your subnets are NOT properly set up |
| 15:34.12 | pizzahead | so I'm thinking that when traffic traverses the second card the machine might be responding to it out of the first default |
| 15:34.14 | [Thom] | wols connection refused for telnet port 22 |
| 15:34.25 | pizzahead | wolfs: I'm assuming your speaking of masking |
| 15:34.38 | pizzahead | wols: what do you suggest? |
| 15:34.56 | wols | [Thom]: then not amount of putty config will help you. I pasted a netstat command above. what does the output of it say? |
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| 15:35.28 | wols | pizzahead: edit your /etc/network/interfaces properly. do not assign gateways to any of the two subnets |
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| 15:35.55 | pizzahead | wols: wouldn't that prevent traffic from being able to source from the machine? |
| 15:36.20 | wols | pizzahead:as an example: 192.168.1.1 with netmask 255.255.255.0 for one and 192.168.2.1 with netmask 255.255.255.0 for the other interface |
| 15:36.37 | wols | why would it prevent anything? |
| 15:36.58 | pizzahead | wols: because anything sourcing from outside of 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.2.0/24 would not have a way to route |
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| 15:37.06 | pizzahead | right? |
| 15:37.21 | [Thom] | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:33 0.0.0.0:* Listen 3 |
| 15:37.27 | [Thom] | 720/sshd |
| 15:37.28 | TANATHOS | quit |
| 15:37.32 | kimo | whats the pkg name for tinyX/Kdrive ? |
| 15:37.35 | cahoot | [Thom]: see - port 33 |
| 15:37.41 | wols | no. the clients of 192.168.1.1 have a default gateway of 192.168.1.1 |
| 15:37.46 | [Thom] | sorry not 33, 22 |
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| 15:38.00 | [Thom] | I typed it in from memory... |
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| 15:38.20 | [Thom] | 0.0.0.0 is loopback, right? |
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| 15:38.30 | wols | pizzahead: if that won't work for you, you might need to do bridging or maybe a special route on all hosts in both networks |
| 15:38.44 | wols | thenewguy: your ssh listens on port33. why? |
| 15:38.49 | wols | default port is 22 |
| 15:38.51 | [Thom] | wols it doesn't |
| 15:38.56 | [Thom] | I typed it in wrong |
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| 15:38.58 | [Thom] | it is 22 |
| 15:39.01 | wols | 17:37 < [Thom]> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:33 0.0.0.0:* Listen |
| 15:39.06 | [Thom] | I konw, I typed that |
| 15:39.07 | wols | that clearly says 33 |
| 15:39.17 | [Thom] | I typed it in from memory |
| 15:39.22 | [Thom] | I thought it was 33, it's 22 |
| 15:39.23 | DevilChaos | what does this error mean? Mar 31 16:24:43 blackbox kernel: ENS1371: probe of 0000:02:10.0 failed with error -12 |
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| 15:39.32 | IcE-bOy | hi |
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| 15:39.43 | [Thom] | wols it looks configured correctly, doesn't it? |
| 15:39.46 | wols | DevilChaos: the driver probed your soundcard and found something it didn't like |
| 15:39.48 | pizzahead | wols: if im able to route to the machine from 172.16.0.1 for instance, once the machine receives the traffic it wouldn't know how to route back out to respond since i only have those segments defined and no default. i was thinking the cards might need to be bridged but i wanted to jump on here to find out if I was just doing something incorrectly. |
| 15:39.48 | IcE-bOy | in watch package can i find the "dig" command ? |
| 15:39.59 | wols | DevilChaos: you have to look up what error -12 means in this contenxt |
| 15:40.04 | abrotman | !tell IcE-bOy about search |
| 15:40.26 | IcE-bOy | abrotman, i have tried first with this .. |
| 15:40.40 | abrotman | tried what? |
| 15:40.47 | kimo | !tell kimo about search |
| 15:41.06 | wols | pizzahead: what do you want to do? and linux would have routing rules for the two networks just fine. the possible problem I see is the other machines in those 2 networks which might get confused depending on your overall network setup |
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| 15:41.25 | IcE-bOy | dnsutils |
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| 15:41.27 | IcE-bOy | is the package |
| 15:41.29 | IcE-bOy | tanks |
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| 15:41.37 | zamaliphe | how to force linux not to use swap dev??? |
| 15:41.44 | abrotman | swapoff |
| 15:41.47 | zamaliphe | using grub |
| 15:41.49 | abrotman | and then the system will die!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:41.50 | wols | raf256`: don't have any swap |
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| 15:41.53 | abrotman | oh .. no idea with grub |
| 15:42.06 | DevilChaos | wols where im supposed to look for error -12? |
| 15:42.11 | wols | zamaliphe: just don't have any swap in your /etc/fstab for example |
| 15:42.25 | [Thom] | wols any idea? |
| 15:42.28 | wols | DevilChaos: source of es1371. any docs for that kernel module, etc |
| 15:42.39 | DevilChaos | ah |
| 15:42.41 | DevilChaos | ok ty |
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| 15:43.01 | cahoot | DevilChaos: or here;) http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/unix.errors.html |
| 15:43.04 | wols | [Thom]: no since I can't depend on your pastings. only thing I can think of is either tcpwrappers or iptables |
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| 15:43.17 | zamaliphe | but i asq abut use live cd to reparted my hard drive??? |
| 15:43.37 | [Thom] | Okay, I'll google. |
| 15:44.02 | zamaliphe | withot use of auto find swap dev?? |
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| 15:44.41 | wols | zamaliphe: debian has no live CD which uses swap. so your question is wrong for this channel. go to #knoppix or whatever live cd you use |
| 15:45.07 | zamaliphe | ok |
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| 15:45.26 | DevilChaos | % sleep with me |
| 15:45.27 | DevilChaos | bad character |
| 15:45.31 | DevilChaos | lol |
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| 15:45.48 | cubiq | when I do a fdisk -l I get "/dev/md0 dosn't conatin a valid partition table" but that is alright, right? |
| 15:46.05 | DevilChaos | cahoot very good:) |
| 15:46.27 | cahoot | DevilChaos: guess it didn't help uch though |
| 15:46.32 | cahoot | much |
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| 15:46.58 | jbeez | does anyone know of a good tutorial on partial class C cidr notations setup for reverse dns in bind9? |
| 15:47.01 | DevilChaos | doesnt matter put a wee smile on my face for a while :) |
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| 15:48.53 | wols | DevilChaos: also look into modprobe error codes |
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| 15:52.15 | greench | could anyone tell me a low memory web browser (gui)? |
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| 15:52.51 | [Thom] | wols: no iptables and the tcpwrappers files don't have any rules |
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| 15:53.06 | pheh | woah... unexpected chansize++ |
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| 15:53.16 | cubiq | Is EVMS better than MD? |
| 15:53.17 | Eclipser | eh? :) |
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| 15:54.01 | bloom | in /etc/network/interfaces, my computer cat-in-the-hat's IP address is 192.168.1.50. Ifconfig reports it as 169.254.47.156. From cat-in-the-hat I can ping both addresses. From another computer little-cat-a, I can only ping 192.168.1.50. What gives? There's no firewall between these two computers |
| 15:54.08 | cubiq | Raid manger for Linux :) |
| 15:54.18 | bloom | Linux cat-in-the-hat.dnsalias.com 2.6.16-rc6-1ken #1 Fri Mar 17 00:10:14 CST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:54.26 | pheh | quicky I hope... in debian space, when i configure multiple interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces - how do I stop ifup from adding additional default routes for eth1,eth2 etc... |
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| 15:55.28 | pheh | ie; ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 up |
| 15:55.29 | pheh | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.30 | pheh | is there a pre-up config i'm missing for interfaces that will stop it from adding a default route? |
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| 15:56.50 | pizzahead | if you dont define a gateway per interface you ownt have an additional default added |
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| 15:57.04 | illsci | morning... |
| 15:57.27 | pheh | and i don't need a gateway defined because its on the local segment and can just arp for it... duh... tyvm |
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| 15:58.09 | pizzahead | pheh: true if you only plan on accessing the machine from other machines on the local subnets and if your only going to connect to other local machines from that server |
| 15:58.32 | pizzahead | if you just need one default route only add a gateway statement to one of the interfaces |
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| 15:58.49 | illsci | hey why does my /etc/motd keep getting clobbered on reboot? |
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| 15:59.19 | illsci | i had the hottest asci art girl ever in there and now nothing :( |
| 15:59.32 | illsci | :) |
| 15:59.33 | pheh | right... thats what I'm doing... its kind of a hodgepodge SNAT/IPtables/Nepenthes box to test 3 commercial firewalls, just had a blown gasket for a sec, tyvm :) |
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| 16:00.13 | ccg | how to play matroska coded videos in debian |
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| 16:01.11 | abrotman | !de |
| 16:01.11 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
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| 16:01.27 | illsci | abrotman.... |
| 16:01.29 | wols | !tell ccg about marillat |
| 16:01.30 | illsci | whats up with my motd |
| 16:01.31 | abrotman | illsci: your wife h4xx0r3d you .. changed it |
| 16:01.34 | illsci | hehehe |
| 16:01.38 | wols | that should have a way (most probably via mplayer) |
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| 16:01.47 | illsci | i got my reverse dns working last night... |
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| 16:02.01 | illsci | took me a few to figure out the right zone... |
| 16:02.21 | illsci | ive never had rev dns delegated me |
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| 16:02.38 | abrotman | illsci: did you find your admins to hire? |
| 16:02.53 | illsci | nope... not yet |
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| 16:03.31 | illsci | its weird because the ppl that you interview are always just ok and you know there are of ton of good ppl out there that probably just dont leave there homes.. |
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| 16:03.52 | illsci | they got caught up playing wow or something.. |
| 16:04.18 | abrotman | like cureless |
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| 16:06.03 | GNU_Style | hi |
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| 16:08.54 | abrotman | ack! |
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| 16:10.38 | ccg | !marillat |
| 16:10.38 | dpkg | rumour has it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
| 16:11.00 | ccg | !marillat.etch |
| 16:11.00 | dpkg | i guess marillat.etch is is type echo "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; as root to add the marillat repository to your sources.list |
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| 16:14.33 | DevilChaos | is there nothing in /etc/init.d/ that i need to restart for sound when i install stuff no? |
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| 16:15.45 | cahoot | DevilChaos: stuff? |
| 16:15.58 | DevilChaos | cahoot: yeah stuff |
| 16:16.03 | DevilChaos | lol |
| 16:16.14 | DevilChaos | alsa oss etc |
| 16:16.21 | cahoot | DevilChaos: as in not alsa or other essential sound resources? |
| 16:16.38 | DevilChaos | yeah |
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| 16:17.23 | DevilChaos | lpts is terminal sound isnt it? |
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| 16:17.31 | cahoot | DevilChaos: ok - you installed alsa? has run alsaconf? th try alsamixer |
| 16:17.47 | DevilChaos | yeah done alsaconf |
| 16:17.58 | DevilChaos | try alsamixer now |
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| 16:18.21 | Hemist | Hey |
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| 16:18.40 | Hemist | i want to install debian with help of PXE |
| 16:18.46 | Hemist | is that possible? |
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| 16:19.36 | cahoot | Hemist: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ |
| 16:19.52 | Hemist | cahoot, thx |
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| 16:22.14 | ILF_ | how to disable xdm? |
| 16:22.33 | cahoot | ILF_: try /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 16:22.58 | yann_ | how can i know if 18:21:01.723949 IP 82.246.16.55.2349 > x.x.x.x.139 is just ordinary W$ broadcast or some stupid guy trying to hack my linux box? |
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| 16:23.28 | ILF_ | cahoot: thx |
| 16:23.36 | yann_ | i can se a lot liekt this with tcpdump |
| 16:23.43 | yann_ | *like |
| 16:23.54 | wols | your samba logs will tell you. however if you have samba listening on a public interface, you deserve what you get if someone hacks you |
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| 16:24.13 | yann_ | wols, i don't use samba |
| 16:24.21 | wols | yann_: then what is the problem? |
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| 16:24.45 | shay | folks |
| 16:24.59 | yann_ | wols, it uses a lot of network resources |
| 16:25.01 | shay | does any of you knows about an appplication to log users stdin into a file |
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| 16:25.03 | shay | ? |
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| 16:25.09 | shay | like for monitoring all the commands the users type on your system |
| 16:25.38 | [machine] | yep |
| 16:25.39 | wols | yann_: then get off the intarweb. you can't prevent others from knocking at your ports. just can't. beisdes. it doesn't use any noticeable ressources |
| 16:25.40 | [machine] | script |
| 16:25.55 | [machine] | shay: gimme a second i'll find you a link |
| 16:26.05 | shay | [machine], awesome, thanks |
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| 16:26.54 | yann_ | wols, well, a few broadcasts are ok, but here there are more than a few, that's the pb |
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| 16:28.32 | yann_ | wols, here it looks more like a tentative of DoS |
| 16:29.01 | [machine] | shay: http://www.egbok.com/sudoscript/ |
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| 16:30.11 | shay | thanks [machine] |
| 16:30.30 | Hemist | cahoot, is there any way i can use my windows box to make a PXE boot on my mini box with no cd/floppy drive? |
| 16:30.49 | nvz | man fucking people.. |
| 16:30.58 | nvz | I did not want to be awake this early |
| 16:31.03 | cahoot | Hemist: I can spell to PXE - but that's about it |
| 16:31.17 | Hemist | hmm |
| 16:31.19 | Hemist | :/ |
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| 16:31.27 | nvz | gotta leave in like 5 hours and would have been perfectly happy sleeping all day :P |
| 16:31.30 | Hemist | is there any way i can use my windows box to make a PXE boot on my mini box with no cd/floppy drive? :) |
| 16:31.46 | Hemist | and install debian |
| 16:31.59 | nvz | Hemist: windows pc have a cdrom? |
| 16:32.05 | Hemist | yes |
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| 16:32.20 | nvz | Hemist: i'd put the hd in there and take the windows one out or take the cdrom out and put it in the other |
| 16:32.33 | Hemist | i cant |
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| 16:32.48 | nvz | no burner? |
| 16:32.50 | Hemist | its a 2,5" hdd in my minibox |
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| 16:33.07 | [Thom] | wols: when I portscan that machine, it says port 22 is filtered? |
| 16:33.09 | nvz | they make adapters, but I guess you dont want to do that *shrug* |
| 16:33.13 | [Thom] | Does that sound right? |
| 16:33.17 | nvz | there are mini ide -> ide adapters |
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| 16:33.35 | wols | [Thom]: yes, something or other prevent your from accessing that port. told you before |
| 16:33.37 | Hemist | nvz, yes but i dont have the money to buy them |
| 16:33.50 | abrotman | get a job! |
| 16:33.53 | nvz | I hear ya. I dont spend money on that stuff either |
| 16:33.58 | wols | [Thom]: iptables -L |
| 16:34.00 | nvz | but I network.. |
| 16:34.14 | nvz | abrotman: whats up? :) |
| 16:34.23 | nvz | besides me.. at 11am.. fuckers |
| 16:34.26 | DevilChaos | cahoot: working thank you that was the missing link alsamixer was installed but needed alsamixergui.deb installed too:) |
| 16:34.52 | DevilChaos | whys that a bad time to be up ? |
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| 16:34.58 | abrotman | nvz: why are you awake? |
| 16:35.05 | nvz | abrotman: one word.. phil |
| 16:35.15 | DevilChaos | nvz: ngt shift? |
| 16:35.21 | aquaman | wols- Thanks. Can you tell me how to add a source to my apt-get's? I want to add /project/kanotix/experimental/pool/non-free/m/madwifi-ng they mention repository but I am still deb-dumb I'm afraid. And thanks again for all your help! |
| 16:35.22 | nvz | abrotman: or you knew him as starfish in here |
| 16:35.39 | nvz | DevilChaos: na, I am laid off just tired |
| 16:36.07 | nvz | had an interesting night ran into my dream queen |
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| 16:36.12 | Hemist | aquaman, /etc/apt/source.list |
| 16:36.16 | ircdevil | howdy |
| 16:36.17 | [Thom] | wols: Chain INPUT, FORWARD & OUTPUT all say: (policy ACCEPT) |
| 16:36.21 | DevilChaos | whos your dream queen? |
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| 16:36.31 | aquaman | TY, Hemist! |
| 16:36.33 | nvz | Tara Segrist.. nobody famous :P |
| 16:36.45 | [Thom] | wols: So 'filtered' means closed on that port? |
| 16:36.55 | DevilChaos | i have a person like that in my town i melt everytime i see her |
| 16:37.03 | nvz | yeah thats the one |
| 16:37.12 | ircdevil | i installed a new kernel, and now i cant mount my usb-storage devices. something is missing. what? |
| 16:37.22 | DevilChaos | usbdev |
| 16:37.32 | DevilChaos | usbhid |
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| 16:38.02 | IceTox | brb guys |
| 16:38.04 | nvz | I havent seen her in like 3-5 years she just kinda poped up when I got home last night to torment me I guess. |
| 16:38.06 | abrotman | nvz: dream queen? cara? |
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| 16:38.16 | ircdevil | dmesg sas: Unable to load NLS charset cp437 |
| 16:38.20 | nvz | abrotman: na cara is #3, this was #1 |
| 16:38.24 | DevilChaos | nvz: lol |
| 16:38.32 | abrotman | nvz: where are the pictures of these girls?!?! |
| 16:39.00 | nvz | abrotman: cara and sara are the only ones I ever kept pictures of.. and Sara |
| 16:39.09 | abrotman | pictures! |
| 16:39.14 | nvz | abrotman: is in my year book, and I threw cara's pictures out |
| 16:39.22 | [Thom] | Where can I configure how sshd gets setup when I boot the system? |
| 16:39.26 | abrotman | get a camera phone! |
| 16:39.35 | abrotman | [Thom]: how ? |
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| 16:39.45 | ircdevil | i installed a new kernel, and now i cant mount my usb-storage devices. dmest say: FAT: codepage cp437 not found // Unable to load NLS charset cp437 |
| 16:39.46 | nvz | I got a camera phone, but costs $5/mo for the service to tak ethe picutres off |
| 16:39.57 | abrotman | nvz: you can't use a cable? |
| 16:40.07 | DevilChaos | yes debian does kick arse and i now have my 14gigs of musice back and my sound working im a happy bunny :)# |
| 16:40.08 | nvz | abrotman: no idea, I didnt get one with it |
| 16:40.15 | [Thom] | abrotman I need to configure sshd to boot with the -4 option |
| 16:40.41 | abrotman | [Thom]: check the init script? |
| 16:40.44 | [Thom] | ok |
| 16:40.55 | Bucciarati | [Thom]: /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 16:41.06 | abrotman | i don't think you can add -4 in the config |
| 16:41.20 | [Thom] | Bucciarati then what is /etc/init.d/ssh ? |
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| 16:41.48 | Bucciarati | [Thom]: that is the init script. find the option corresponding to the -4 flag on sshd_config(5) |
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| 16:42.12 | abrotman | wtf is -4 ? |
| 16:42.29 | Bucciarati | [Thom]: which is, "AddressFamily inet" |
| 16:42.29 | jbeez | dont use ipv6 |
| 16:42.45 | nvz | well I am gonna take a walk and try wake up.. since I wont have any luck trying to get back to sleep |
| 16:42.53 | abrotman | nvz: take pictures! |
| 16:42.53 | Bucciarati | [Thom]: but now you know where to look next time |
| 16:42.57 | nvz | pfft |
| 16:43.03 | [Thom] | What is "AddressFamily inet" ? |
| 16:43.08 | ircdevil | hrm? cp437 is not in this kernel? |
| 16:43.11 | nvz | nothing worth taking pictures of around here |
| 16:43.19 | nvz | lots and lots of trees |
| 16:43.55 | [Thom] | I see "ListenAddress" |
| 16:44.02 | nvz | I took two pictures of the inside of my pocket the other night |
| 16:44.06 | DevilChaos | can you paste pictures in the paste bin? |
| 16:44.08 | abrotman | yay! |
| 16:44.13 | nvz | that was interesting I am sure |
| 16:44.18 | abrotman | DevilChaos: there is one where you can |
| 16:44.22 | cahoot | nvz: ego porn? |
| 16:44.31 | nvz | heh |
| 16:44.31 | Eulex | !trees |
| 16:44.31 | dpkg | trees are things that obscure woods |
| 16:44.37 | DevilChaos | abrotman where? |
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| 16:46.03 | ircdevil | anyone know of problems mounting vfat with 2.6.15 kernel and mount from sarge ? |
| 16:46.47 | streuner1 | ircdevil: what does BTS say? |
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| 16:47.02 | DevilChaos | yes i do |
| 16:47.11 | DevilChaos | ircdevil |
| 16:47.17 | abrotman | DevilChaos: google ? |
| 16:47.20 | jiriki | hello guys, how unstable is unstable for home servers? :P |
| 16:47.33 | abrotman | !sid faq |
| 16:47.33 | dpkg | methinks sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 16:47.36 | ircdevil | DevilChaos: suggestions ? |
| 16:47.44 | streuner1 | jiriki: unstable? |
| 16:47.54 | jiriki | streuner1: I mean, does it break every day or two :P |
| 16:47.55 | streuner1 | unstable=unstable |
| 16:47.59 | ircdevil | streuner1: #debian _is_ the BTS :o) |
| 16:48.01 | jiriki | streuner1: practically |
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| 16:48.32 | Hemist | jiriki, the unstable has been up here for 12 weeks |
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| 16:48.48 | DevilChaos | moutn -t vfat <device> /dir/ what do you get for error or output |
| 16:48.49 | streuner1 | jiriki: you don't want unstable for servers |
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| 16:48.59 | DevilChaos | damn typos |
| 16:49.02 | DevilChaos | mount |
| 16:49.06 | jiriki | streuner1: ok, that was what I wanted to hear :) |
| 16:49.08 | sEbaKiLLeR | hi |
| 16:49.35 | sEbaKiLLeR | i was here yesterday and i asked to make a hack group |
| 16:49.46 | sEbaKiLLeR | anyone is interested? |
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| 16:49.53 | streuner1 | ircdevil: did you check out lkml or/and #kernelnewbies oftc? |
| 16:50.08 | Eulex | jiriki, run stable if you haven't got a really good reason to not. |
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| 16:50.39 | DevilChaos | sebakiller: if you have to ask such question you arent worthy of making one |
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| 16:50.49 | jiriki | Eulex: well primarily I need mysql5 =P |
| 16:51.08 | Eulex | jiriki, get a backport from backports.org |
| 16:51.11 | jiriki | Eulex: but I found a nice repository for it |
| 16:51.13 | sEbaKiLLeR | DevilChaos: why? |
| 16:51.19 | jiriki | dotdeb.org etc. |
| 16:51.28 | jiriki | Eulex: oh nice, thanks |
| 16:51.57 | DevilChaos | id rather be a ghost in the machine than anounce to the world i was a hacker of any type or descrition |
| 16:52.04 | DevilChaos | description |
| 16:52.09 | DevilChaos | damn typos |
| 16:52.12 | wols | sEbaKiLLeR: this is the wrong place for a "hack group". just go into some forum with more teenagers. you will have more luck |
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| 16:52.15 | Eulex | jiriki, yw :) it's the closest to official backports that there are |
| 16:52.31 | jiriki | Eulex: yeah, nice :) |
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| 16:53.09 | sEbaKiLLeR | i think that you dont understand i want to make a group of hack (not a group of crack or lammers) |
| 16:53.10 | ircdevil | streuner1: now i did check the bts. nothing there concersning mount & kernel versions |
| 16:53.16 | WizCraker | what could be the cause of a cannot open display error when useing gdm for remote access? |
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| 16:57.11 | Eulex | sEbaKiLLeR, ah, hacking in the true sense then, as its meaning was before the media started calling crackers hackers |
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| 16:58.07 | ircdevil | streuner1: gotit. found a missing module ... |
| 16:58.41 | xoz | WizCraker: xauth? |
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| 16:59.40 | E-bola2 | where can i find a debian kernel with Connmark? |
| 16:59.47 | wols | sEbaKiLLeR: you can't form groups of "hackers". all you can do is doing some hacks yourself and find likewise interested people doing the same |
| 17:00.16 | WizCraker | xoz: should I be using xauth? |
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| 17:00.59 | LemMinG | morning all |
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| 17:01.10 | LemMinG | need some help getting a usb WiFi adapter working |
| 17:01.32 | LemMinG | belkin fd6050 |
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| 17:01.46 | ircdevil | rebooting |
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| 17:02.34 | WizCraker | useing xauth didn't work, got could not bind to XDMCP socket. |
| 17:03.07 | sEbaKiLLeR | the reason why i want to make a group is because i want to learn and share information |
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| 17:04.22 | Deep6 | anyone an expert on cron, I've got a ton of CRON processes' stuck in FUTEX_WAIT state |
| 17:04.30 | Deep6 | and I don't understand why |
| 17:04.59 | SlayerXP | Deep6: has this happened before? |
| 17:05.07 | tarzeau | Deep6: TEH Deep6? |
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| 17:05.21 | Deep6 | SlayerXP, well it's been happening in the last 3 days |
| 17:05.34 | Deep6 | hey buddy |
| 17:05.35 | SlayerXP | Deep6: what did you do 3 days ago? |
| 17:05.37 | Deep6 | ltns ;) |
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| 17:05.57 | sEbaKiLLeR | anyone want to make that? |
| 17:06.04 | tarzeau | Deep6: man how long have you been away? |
| 17:06.09 | unstable | If you want to play network tetris, apt-get install gtetrinet, and then connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 17:06.13 | Deep6 | SlayerXP, oh....had breakfast, showered, got dressed |
| 17:06.18 | Deep6 | should I go on.. |
| 17:06.25 | tarzeau | unstable: tried http://bub-n-bros.sf.net yet? |
| 17:06.44 | Deep6 | SlayerXP, the only thing I think I changed was stuff related to changing over libnss-ldap to use TLS |
| 17:06.48 | SlayerXP | Deep6: I'm well known for my sense of hmour. you must have heard of me. |
| 17:06.56 | unstable | tarzeau: nope, I'm still waiting for the itp to be completed. |
| 17:06.56 | unstable | heh |
| 17:07.29 | Deep6 | I detect a bit of sarcasm in that statement |
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| 17:10.42 | E-bola2 | Whats the easiest way to add something to my kernel, when ive always just used debian stock kernels? (im running 2.6.8) |
| 17:10.46 | E-bola2 | but its missing connmark |
| 17:10.53 | tarzeau | unstable: what about you do it? |
| 17:11.10 | unstable | tarzeau: ok, sponsor me |
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| 17:11.45 | riwa | ?? |
| 17:11.56 | riwa | can anyone hear me? |
| 17:11.58 | unstable | yes |
| 17:12.01 | riwa | k |
| 17:12.03 | wols | E-bola2: get the source and use your old .config file |
| 17:12.05 | tarzeau | unstable: where's the package? |
| 17:12.11 | riwa | totally new to this |
| 17:12.11 | Eulex | riwa, nope |
| 17:12.15 | riwa | :P |
| 17:12.22 | unstable | tarzeau: Where do you want me to upload it to? |
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| 17:12.52 | tarzeau | unstable: put it on some webpage, and i'll check it |
| 17:13.01 | peritus_ | in which package do i find aclocal? |
| 17:13.17 | Eulex | !tell peritus_ about search |
| 17:13.23 | riwa | how can I install Xfce4 on Debian? |
| 17:13.34 | unstable | riwa: apt-get install xfce4 gdm |
| 17:13.40 | riwa | I have the pacakge but it doesn't launch |
| 17:13.47 | Eulex | !doesn't work |
| 17:13.47 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 17:14.04 | DevilChaos | sorry dude havent got a clue dont use it |
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| 17:14.15 | [iago] | is there a debian installer that supports software raid? |
| 17:14.17 | peritus_ | Eulex: so, what should i search for? |
| 17:14.25 | riwa | thx |
| 17:14.30 | riwa | seems to work :P |
| 17:14.35 | DevilChaos | iago : software raid is incorporated |
| 17:14.47 | DevilChaos | abrotman: is that right? |
| 17:14.57 | LemMinG | software raid is the awesome |
| 17:15.02 | [iago] | DevilChaos: what do you mean? |
| 17:15.06 | LemMinG | i have it running on my 15k scsi drives |
| 17:15.09 | LemMinG | soooo fast |
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| 17:15.20 | Eulex | peritus_, take a look at the apt-file command. it will search for a file name in the package database. you'd do like: apt-file search bin/aclocal. btw, it's in any of the automake packages. |
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| 17:15.45 | xored | how to delete this route entry : 192.168.176.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 17:15.52 | DevilChaos | in the install process it gives you the chance of configuring software raid |
| 17:16.00 | Deep6 | SlayerXP, got any ideas on how to troubleshoot this issue? |
| 17:16.09 | xored | route del -host 192.168.176.0 dev eth0 is not working, he say, rule not found |
| 17:16.39 | SlayerXP | Deep6: it used to work, as of 3 days ago it doesn't. logic says you changed something 3 days ago that broke it. |
| 17:16.45 | peritus_ | Eulex: apt-cache search aclocal / apt-file search aclocal did not help me, installing automake however did. thanks |
| 17:16.49 | [iago] | DevilChaos: oh, I've been using the net install, i guess i'll have to download the big one |
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| 17:17.01 | peritus_ | Eulex: apt-file search bin/aclocal |
| 17:17.02 | riwa | i get a lot of errors |
| 17:17.07 | Deep6 | SlayerXP, how does a changet to libnss-ldap bugger cron? |
| 17:17.07 | DevilChaos | no its there in the net installl |
| 17:17.10 | riwa | when launching X |
| 17:17.26 | Eulex | peritus_, you will need to run apt-file update before using apt-file |
| 17:17.28 | SlayerXP | Deep6: i suspect something else was changed too |
| 17:17.41 | DevilChaos | its in with the partitioning software |
| 17:17.42 | riwa | xinit: no such file or directory |
| 17:18.26 | peritus_ | Eulex: ah, okay, thanks, now it shows up there too |
| 17:18.27 | [iago] | DevilChaos i'll do a bit of searching |
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| 17:18.45 | bab_ | The ATI control center doesn't seem to recognize my card, is there some kernel requirement i missed? I installed the official ATI driver (2.23.7) |
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| 17:19.03 | abrotman | DevilChaos: eh? |
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| 17:19.11 | abrotman | DevilChaos: oh yes |
| 17:19.15 | Deep6 | SlayerXP, how about we start from, how can I establish what cron is waiting to complete from a FUTEX perspective? |
| 17:19.17 | DevilChaos | iago: take a good look through all menus after loading the software around about the time when partitioner is open k |
| 17:19.34 | [iago] | DevilChaos will do |
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| 17:19.43 | SlayerXP | Deep6: stop cron, comment out all jobs. restart it and add jobs one by one. |
| 17:19.55 | DevilChaos | cant remember exactly where i seen it |
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| 17:20.48 | Devassss | how to upgrade kernel on sarge? |
| 17:21.14 | DevilChaos | bab : what card have you got and be a bit more specific? |
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| 17:21.35 | LemMinG | Devassss apt-get <kernel image name> install |
| 17:21.44 | The-Saint | is testing using a new version of xorg? |
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| 17:21.58 | LordNazgul | devilchaos, im intrigued now. do all drives have to be the same size, or can i set it up to stripe accross 3 drifferent sized drives? |
| 17:22.08 | vin` | The-Saint: 7.0? |
| 17:22.10 | bab_ | The card is a radeon X600. I got it to work once before |
| 17:22.20 | The-Saint | i'm having SERIOUS trouble getting X to start |
| 17:22.24 | bab_ | but I have NO idea why, it works no more... :( |
| 17:22.47 | vin` | bab_: with xorg? |
| 17:22.48 | DevilChaos | ati driver though xorg should be fine no need for official one |
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| 17:22.54 | DevilChaos | or vesa |
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| 17:23.18 | bab_ | I get no 3d acceleration... |
| 17:23.39 | DevilChaos | lordnazgul: havent got a clue think they have to be the same for raid |
| 17:23.48 | bab_ | the ATI control panel says Card Name: unknown |
| 17:23.53 | LordNazgul | devil chaos. hmm ok |
| 17:23.55 | LordNazgul | ths |
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| 17:24.09 | DevilChaos | bab: ati and vesa are the only ones that work are you running stable version of debian? |
| 17:24.09 | vin` | bab_: xorg gives DRI for a few radeons, does for my IGP340, newer stuff probably not, read the release notes or the changelog. |
| 17:24.11 | erudified | Hey, anyone know what the name of those sweet gnome fonts are? |
| 17:24.16 | The-Saint | it fails (like always) saying no screens found, if i try and use xorgconfig or xorgcfg (i don't know enough about my monitor) and it hangs with "caught signal 11" if i try to "X -configure" |
| 17:24.22 | erudified | Nimbus or something, I think? |
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| 17:24.41 | DevilChaos | vin : vesa only works for newer ones |
| 17:24.48 | DevilChaos | i have x1600 |
| 17:25.20 | DevilChaos | fglrx removed when i migrated to testing from stable ages ago really pissed at that one |
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| 17:25.49 | LemMinG | can anyone help with this fscking usb wlan card |
| 17:25.55 | LemMinG | sooo annoying |
| 17:26.01 | vin` | LemMinG: those are teh suck. |
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| 17:26.15 | LordNazgul | lemming indeed |
| 17:26.19 | LemMinG | i know vin`, but it's all i have available |
| 17:26.31 | vin` | LemMinG: what chipset? I fiddled a while with an rt2x00 one and gave up. |
| 17:26.41 | WizCraker | xoz thanks for your suggestion. I somehow got gdm to work and I'm able to see the desktop to the T2000 server. |
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| 17:26.44 | LemMinG | atmel at76c503a |
| 17:26.56 | LordNazgul | lemming you didnt happen to get one that is based off of atheros chipset, those are the only usb wlans that i have seen work easily |
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| 17:27.28 | LemMinG | i had a netgear usb wg111 working quite nicely under ubuntu awhile back |
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| 17:27.56 | DevilChaos | debian rules! |
| 17:28.00 | The-Saint | the whole idea of wlan frightens me, i LIKE my wires... |
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| 17:28.22 | DevilChaos | the saint it ok if you have the right encryption |
| 17:28.30 | LemMinG | the sain't not an option when the modem is at the other end of a rented flat and you can't run cables |
| 17:28.47 | LordNazgul | lemming did you try this: http://at76c503a.berlios.de/ |
| 17:28.48 | DevilChaos | yes you can along the floor |
| 17:29.00 | stew | its a pain to have to have cables long enough to bring your laptop to the toilet, too |
| 17:29.06 | LemMinG | lol |
| 17:29.12 | E-bola2 | If i have extracted newest kernel sources |
| 17:29.15 | LemMinG | DevilChaos not really feasible |
| 17:29.18 | DevilChaos | stew; lol dirty bastard |
| 17:29.27 | E-bola2 | and copied my /boot/config to .config of the kernel sources dir |
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| 17:29.30 | LemMinG | would have to be way too long to prevent them running across the middle of the floor |
| 17:29.33 | E-bola2 | does menuconfig pick the settings up automatically? |
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| 17:29.47 | stew | E-bola2: make oldconfig |
| 17:30.00 | E-bola2 | stow: can i still adjust it? |
| 17:30.06 | E-bola2 | i need to add a few things to my current setup |
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| 17:30.12 | E-bola2 | but ive never compiled a kernel before |
| 17:30.24 | LemMinG | once i can get this bloody thing setup it's going back in the cupboard |
| 17:30.27 | stew | E-bola2: run make oldconfig ; then make menuconfi |
| 17:30.29 | The-Saint | point, but i have no laptop as yet (i have some laptop parts, but i'm prolly gonna just get a p350 or summat off ebay and re-attempt my "slackware adventure") |
| 17:30.31 | LemMinG | 15k rpm drives are NOISY |
| 17:30.38 | E-bola2 | stew: ok |
| 17:30.50 | wols | E-bola2: yes. after the "oldconfig" you can run make menuconfig and add your connmark stuff for example |
| 17:31.09 | DevilChaos | im off see you guys later |
| 17:31.11 | DevilChaos | :) |
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| 17:31.34 | darkness_ | Talking of laptops and HDD, Anyone come across an HDD failing during a defrag? |
| 17:31.54 | kyncani | E-bola2: it's all explained in the readme |
| 17:32.16 | E-bola2 | wols: perfect |
| 17:32.25 | cahoot | darkfires: defrag? in linux? |
| 17:32.28 | The-Saint | darkness_: you can defrag under linux? |
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| 17:32.53 | evilbulgarian | hi, i have cacti h from debian testing and whenever i try to add a data template it just dissapears but i can see it on the database can someone please help?? |
| 17:33.18 | stew | !defrag |
| 17:33.18 | dpkg | hmm... defrag is the best windows screensaver, or what windows users do for emotional satisfaction when the frequency of illegal operations and bluescreens has become too big |
| 17:33.18 | neloX | hello, can anyone help me figure out why my sysctl.conf file is not being read to sysctl at startup, kinda like sysctl -p |
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| 17:33.40 | The-Saint | when i was a newbie, and my MDK 10.0 system suddenly became S L O W i asked how to defrag and was sincerely laughed at by everyone in # #Mandrake |
| 17:33.52 | wols | The-Saint: I regularly do. and all filesystems fragment. all of them |
| 17:34.08 | darkness_ | No, i just asked as a friends HDD is having probs. |
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| 17:34.24 | wols | The-Saint: yes, that's mdk for you |
| 17:34.28 | harleyg | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.34 | cahoot | darkness_: sounds like the time to invest in a new hd |
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| 17:35.01 | darkness_ | cahoot, i thought it had to be a mechanical HDD problem. |
| 17:35.08 | E-bola2 | Umm isnt gcc in the gcc package? |
| 17:35.17 | E-bola2 | /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.1/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 1: gcc: command not found |
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| 17:35.28 | cahoot | wols: how do you go about defragging in linux? |
| 17:35.34 | darkness_ | Aparently the laptop is only over a year old, mind some manufaturers sell some crap. |
| 17:35.36 | neloX | can anyone help me with sysctl problems in here or point me to the right channel? |
| 17:35.36 | E-bola2 | i get that AND gcc is already the newest version. |
| 17:35.53 | wols | cahoot: xfs_fsr |
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| 17:36.04 | The-Saint | i spent about 4 houirs trying to work out how toi raise cash for a ne hdd last night whilst instaklling debian....i thought i was having disk troubles, but it turns out my CMOS clock was set to 1999-03-01 for some reason... |
| 17:36.08 | cahoot | wols: and ext3? |
| 17:36.17 | opqdonut | :D |
| 17:36.18 | wols | don't use ext3 |
| 17:36.20 | Eulex | E-bola, and the gcc command is there? |
| 17:36.28 | opqdonut | wols: why not? |
| 17:36.34 | darkness_ | wols, so you can defrag on deb? |
| 17:36.35 | wols | I admit, my xfs usage might be atypical, but defrag is very much needed |
| 17:36.37 | darkness_ | Cool |
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| 17:37.01 | darkness_ | Does debian use swop files like windows? |
| 17:37.08 | cahoot | swop? |
| 17:37.14 | stew | darkness_: either swap files or swap partitions |
| 17:37.17 | wols | darkness_: swap partitions |
| 17:37.18 | kraypius|M | page |
| 17:37.23 | Eulex | darkness_, it can. but it's recommended to have a swap partition |
| 17:37.24 | E-bola2 | Eulex: the binary? no |
| 17:37.36 | E-bola2 | hmm wait |
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| 17:37.44 | E-bola2 | it is, but must not be in my path |
| 17:37.45 | E-bola2 | how odd |
| 17:37.56 | darkness_ | Swap files wols i was meaning. My windows box had 1gig of them. |
| 17:38.11 | The-Saint | i'm thinking about reformatting to use reiser...is it a stable enough technology yet? |
| 17:38.17 | stew | The-Saint: no |
| 17:38.23 | opqdonut | The-Saint: i've had problems with it |
| 17:38.40 | opqdonut | personally i stick to ext3, good enough for almost anything |
| 17:38.45 | opqdonut | and solid as rock ^^ |
| 17:38.56 | cahoot | as lime anyway |
| 17:39.03 | vin` | should be honest, I haven't had any problems with reiser, YMMV. |
| 17:39.08 | kyncani | The-Saint: reiserfs working fine here, but there is no point in moving from ext3 to reiserfs |
| 17:39.20 | jan_ | any nice tutorials about debian, xgl & compiz ? |
| 17:39.24 | darkness_ | I'm well pleased with this deb box. I've got sshd and apache installed and had it running for a month without problems. My windows box usually last about 5days :-( |
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| 17:39.54 | stew | vin`: you have to admit thought that a vast majority of people that wander in here with fs corruption are running reiser |
| 17:39.56 | vin` | jan_: there is a 120 page ubuntu forum about it, spend a few days there. ;) |
| 17:39.57 | kraypius|M | is linux swap space more reliable than windows swap? windows gives you a message about instability with it |
| 17:39.59 | opqdonut | darkness_: i had uptimes of about ~300 days before there was reboot |
| 17:40.12 | opqdonut | kraypius|M: linux swap is stable |
| 17:40.14 | stew | jan_: its not in debian yet |
| 17:40.15 | braunkraut | Curious, anybody here have exeperience with dotdeb php5/mysql5 packages? |
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| 17:40.18 | jan_ | vin`: is it ok to install ubuntu packages on debian ? |
| 17:40.20 | opqdonut | i wonder how it can even be unstable |
| 17:40.29 | wols | jan_: no |
| 17:40.42 | vin` | stew: yes, I have heard of them, but I've abused it and it still held good for 2 years, changed to ext3 after that, haven't had any problems there either. |
| 17:40.50 | kyncani | stew: the thing is that reiserfs won't handle dying disks |
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| 17:41.09 | stew | jan_: you have to be very careful about what you mix with what, its safer to backport them /msg dpkg simple sid backport ; if you mix ubuntu with debian we won't support it |
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| 17:41.15 | wols | kyncani: yes, that really sucks about it. however SMART helps |
| 17:41.19 | opqdonut | and iirc there some problems with powercycling while boor is in process |
| 17:41.23 | opqdonut | *boot |
| 17:41.26 | E-bola2 | IF i wanted to run an apt-get --reinstall install * |
| 17:41.30 | opqdonut | dunno if they were solved tho |
| 17:41.35 | E-bola2 | (for all packages) woudl that be possible? |
| 17:41.39 | E-bola2 | i mean all install packages |
| 17:41.40 | kraypius|M | spinright owns all |
| 17:41.41 | Eulex | !reinstall |
| 17:41.41 | dpkg | well, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 17:41.53 | kyncani | wols: i've received a smart warning last week :'( |
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| 17:42.00 | Eulex | E-bola2, it wouldn't, but take a look at what dpkg said above ^^ |
| 17:42.01 | wols | ouch |
| 17:42.11 | vin` | jan_: it's still quite buggy, wait for the dust to settle. |
| 17:42.33 | jan_ | hmmm |
| 17:42.34 | E-bola2 | Eulex: i have tons of broken packages after a crash and restore |
| 17:42.36 | wols | kyncani: drive model? usual temp of it? |
| 17:42.37 | E-bola2 | so i dont see any other way |
| 17:42.38 | braunkraut | kyncani: happened to me once, learned from my mistake never ran reiser again ;) |
| 17:43.08 | kyncani | braunkraut: ??? the mistake is to continue using a dying disk |
| 17:43.19 | kyncani | wols: just very old laptop drive |
| 17:43.24 | Eulex | E-bola2, ok. then use what dpkg said above. |
| 17:43.30 | wols | kraypius|M: that's spinrite |
| 17:43.34 | wols | and SMART is not bad |
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| 17:43.59 | E-bola2 | Eulex: i get the following on the command sugested by dpkg (the first one) |
| 17:44.00 | E-bola2 | Reinstallation of cpp-3.0 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. |
| 17:44.00 | E-bola2 | Reinstallation of gcc-3.0 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. |
| 17:44.00 | E-bola2 | Reinstallation of gcc-3.0-base is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. |
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| 17:44.09 | darkness_ | Any news on the new appointed DPL leader? |
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| 17:44.16 | E-bola2 | :/ sory |
| 17:44.23 | kraypius|M | i just replaced my laptop drive because i left it plugged in without a surge protector |
| 17:44.26 | Eulex | E-bola2, then remove those packages; they're obsolete anyway |
| 17:44.34 | E-bola2 | Eulex: alright |
| 17:44.43 | kyncani | wols: laptop drive, toshiba, >27000 power on hours |
| 17:44.56 | Eulex | kyncani, got one of those too. if it gets too hot, it just stops working. I just let it 'rest' for half an hour and it works again :) |
| 17:45.08 | eeyore- | kraypius|M: and what happened? |
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| 17:45.30 | kyncani | Eulex: i'm afraid the chap is just too old now ... :'( |
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| 17:45.40 | Eulex | kyncani, :( |
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| 17:46.02 | kraypius|M | the drive completely broke. Couldnt recover anything of importance. Cried |
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| 17:46.21 | eeyore- | kraypius|M: what do you mean, 'completely broke'? |
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| 17:46.51 | DevilChaos | what package can i use to admin my disks disks-admin isnt working ? |
| 17:47.05 | eeyore- | kraypius|M: and that's not entirely correct. you can always recover something. if you wanted. |
| 17:47.05 | jimm_ | which disto has gcc-2.96? I need it for Oracle 9iR2 .. I've looked in stable, etch and old woody |
| 17:47.20 | DevilChaos | i liked using webmin for that but its gone now |
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| 17:47.27 | Eulex | DevilChaos, cfdisk? |
| 17:47.50 | Eulex | jimm_, debian has gcc 2.95, which will probably work for you |
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| 17:47.51 | eeyore- | DevilChaos: 'admin your disks'? |
| 17:47.52 | DevilChaos | eulex: something with a gui? |
| 17:48.09 | kraypius|M | meaning no matter what computer i hooked it up to nothing could be accessed on it and no data recovery software could do anything. The programs would just hang after a few minutes |
| 17:48.14 | DevilChaos | yeah like disks-admin that was fine but it isnt working now |
| 17:48.14 | jimm_ | Thank Eulex, I tried 2.95 and oracle won't compile.. |
| 17:48.24 | eeyore- | kraypius|M: but the drive spins up, right? |
| 17:48.27 | jimm_ | I did get it to work with 3.3.3. but oracle suggest 2.96 |
| 17:48.51 | eeyore- | kraypius|M: if the drive spins up, that's 50% of the way there (to recovery) |
| 17:48.53 | kraypius|M | yeah but it makes a nasty noise |
| 17:48.58 | E-bola2 | Eulex: why wouldnt u recomend reinstall everything btw? |
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| 17:49.36 | eeyore- | kraypius|M: if you had anything of importance, you could ask commercial recovery companies to recover them for you. ontrack, for example. not cheap. but can be done. |
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| 17:49.50 | kraypius|M | what should i have done then? |
| 17:50.01 | kraypius|M | O |
| 17:50.13 | eeyore- | kraypius|M: recovering from a not-spinning drive (bad electronics), 60GB, costed around $1600 |
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| 17:50.36 | kraypius|M | Damn |
| 17:50.36 | unstable | kraypius|M: Is your data worth 1600USD? |
| 17:51.28 | kraypius|M | yes it is.. But im poor |
| 17:51.28 | unstable | Should have backed up your data. I don't understand why people don't backup their data. |
| 17:51.28 | The-Saint | kraypius|M: there's always the freezer treatment? |
| 17:51.29 | eeyore- | kraypius|M: then, you should have planned ahead :-) not saying you don't have to plan ahead if you could afford it ... |
| 17:51.29 | kraypius|M | what do they use to recover the data? |
| 17:51.29 | Eulex | E-bola2, I'm not. I'm just saying that apt-get --reinstall install * won't work. |
| 17:51.36 | eeyore- | in our case we made sure the budget came out of the right department, not out of IT :-) |
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| 17:51.44 | DevilChaos | eulex : cfdisk isnt seeing all my disks!? |
| 17:51.59 | DevilChaos | just the partitions on hda |
| 17:52.10 | eeyore- | cuz we don't want to encourage users to be lazy :-) we're not going to foot the bill for every fool who doesn't follow data safety guideline |
| 17:52.31 | darkness_ | Has Branden Robinson ever been on irc here? |
| 17:52.32 | Eulex | DevilChaos, cfdisk /dev/[hs]d[abcd...]? |
| 17:52.42 | DevilChaos | ah |
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| 17:52.55 | Eulex | DevilChaos, btw, what exactly do you mean with 'admin your disks'? |
| 17:52.55 | DevilChaos | silly me |
| 17:53.00 | unstable | darkness_: ask in #debian-devel |
| 17:53.04 | ice_1963 | lol |
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| 17:53.22 | jimm_ | I don't even see packages for gcc-2.96 except for i64 .. I would get the source and compile but I'd have to do the same for g++, cpp, g77 and libstec++2.10-{dbg,dev,glibc} |
| 17:53.28 | DevilChaos | well i want to rip stuff from one to another then reformatt the patition and other shit like that |
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| 17:53.38 | eeyore- | kraypius|M: mostly, clean room, replacement electronics, in some cases they bypass the majority of the onboard controller and go a lot closer to the hardware. |
| 17:53.41 | Eulex | jimm_, well, if compiling with 3.3.3 worked, why not use it? |
| 17:54.07 | jimm_ | That's what I'im thinking of doing.. just sticking with gcc-3.3.3 and be done with it |
| 17:54.14 | kraypius|M | that doesnt sound that hard |
| 17:54.21 | DevilChaos | disks-admin was ideal cos i could see the dev name whats on the disk extention type and what it is mounted as |
| 17:54.23 | eeyore- | kraypius|M: clean room is not hard? :-) |
| 17:54.51 | Eulex | DevilChaos, fdisk -l? :) |
| 17:54.57 | kraypius|M | No.. I have a clean room for my mushroom cultivation |
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| 17:55.23 | eeyore- | different kind of clean room :-) |
| 17:55.25 | DevilChaos | eh yeah they would be fine really for formatting and the like but id like visual |
| 17:56.02 | DevilChaos | what kinda mushrooms magic kind? |
| 17:56.28 | kraypius|M | yeah |
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| 17:56.32 | DevilChaos | cool |
| 17:56.55 | jimm_ | Here's something from from the GNU folks about GCC -- "October 6th, 2000 |
| 17:56.55 | jimm_ | It has come to our attention that some GNU/Linux distributions are currently shipping with ``GCC 2.96''. |
| 17:56.55 | jimm_ | We would like to point out that GCC 2.96 is not a formal GCC release nor will there ever be such a release. Rather, GCC 2.96 has been the code- name for our development branch that will eventually become GCC 3.0. |
| 17:56.55 | jimm_ | Current snapshots of GCC, and any version labeled 2.96, produce object files that are not compatible with those produced by either GCC 2.95.2 or the forthcoming GCC 3.0. Therefore, programs built with these snapshots will not be compatible with any official GCC release. Actually, C and Fortran code will probably be compatible, but code in other languages, most notably C++ due to incompatibilities in symbol encoding (``mangling''), the standard library a |
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| 17:57.06 | E-bola2 | Eulex: after having downloaded it all it ends with a: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle. |
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| 17:57.40 | DevilChaos | bbl |
| 17:57.50 | E-bola2 | !reinstall |
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| 17:57.50 | dpkg | hmm... reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 17:57.59 | loggygreg | humm there was a changement of netfilter in the last kernel (2.6.16). Does iptables support this change ? I use testing, do i have to use iptables from unstable ? And is there a script that updates the kernel config file ? |
| 17:58.01 | darkness_ | I fixed this guys computer the other week and he offered me £20 for the work i did. Now word has gone around work and i could be minted :-) |
| 17:58.03 | The-Saint | is there a tool i can apt-get that'll automatically configure X for me? |
| 17:58.16 | Eulex | E-bola2, sorry, I've got no idea how to fix that |
| 17:58.23 | Eulex | The-Saint, x-window-system? |
| 17:58.44 | wols | !tell The-Saint about drxx |
| 17:59.04 | The-Saint | Eulex: is that a yes/no question? |
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| 17:59.42 | cahoot | loggygreg: you only need to load x_tables in my experience |
| 18:00.06 | cahoot | loggygreg: i e in addition to the 'old' modules |
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| 18:00.42 | wols | what has changed in 2.6.16 netfilter? all I remember is that security fix |
| 18:00.44 | Eulex | The-Saint, oh, might have misunderstood you, but if you install X (by for example apt-getting x-window-system) it will ask some questions to you about how X should be setup. after you've installed X, you can do what dpgk told you to re-run it. |
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| 18:01.01 | loggygreg | cahoot: yes i know but iptables complain "ip_tables not found" or something like that |
| 18:01.29 | cahoot | loggygreg: self compiled kernel? |
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| 18:01.47 | loggygreg | cahoot: yes |
| 18:02.02 | cahoot | loggygreg: check the config |
| 18:02.09 | r_marvin | you forgot netfilter stuff |
| 18:02.59 | lazzarello | why would vlc be missing from etch but not sid or sarge? |
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| 18:03.47 | loggygreg | cahoot: yes, and do you have a ip_tables modules ? |
| 18:03.58 | cahoot | loggygreg: yes |
| 18:04.14 | cahoot | ip_tables 8920 2 iptable_mangle,iptable_filter |
| 18:04.27 | Eulex | lazzarello, that's quite a common scenario. often when some random transition is going on, some random package will be remove in preparation for the transition. when the transition is over, the package will be put back. |
| 18:04.54 | loggygreg | cahoot: humm, thanks, my config is probably buggy |
| 18:05.06 | lazzarello | Eulex, oh, that makes sense. In that case it would probably be safe to fetch it from sid. |
| 18:05.07 | cahoot | loggygreg: as was mine |
| 18:05.22 | Eulex | lazzarello, probably |
| 18:05.23 | loggygreg | cahoot: :-) |
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| 18:05.44 | valet | привет |
| 18:05.54 | Eulex | !ru |
| 18:05.54 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 18:06.29 | valet | руÑÑкие ееееее |
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| 18:07.13 | Eulex | valet, /join #debian-russian |
| 18:07.29 | valet | понÑл |
| 18:07.38 | unstable | !tell valet about ask |
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| 18:08.57 | valet | ща |
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| 18:09.48 | The-Saint | that didn't help...:( |
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| 18:10.57 | The-Saint | is there a deb equivalent to slackware's "xorgsetup" command? |
| 18:11.10 | unstable | !drxx |
| 18:11.10 | dpkg | i guess drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 18:11.38 | loggygreg | cahoot: thanks, i have found the menu entry now |
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| 18:12.32 | The-Saint | yeah, tried that...it still asked me to specify everything and i don't know how much ram my (onboard) display adapter has or the vsync range of my monitor |
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| 18:13.16 | wols | The-Saint: then you need to find out |
| 18:13.41 | soc10path | The-Saint get a bootable iso like knoppix and see what it recognized your video as |
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| 18:14.36 | The-Saint | oh, no...fixed it |
| 18:14.37 | Eulex | The-Saint, you don't need to know how much ram your gfx card has. also, hwinfo --monitor and hwinfo --gfxcard might help you |
| 18:14.50 | E-bola2 | Umm guys i hit pause in my keyboard while apt-get was running a bunch of reinstalls |
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| 18:14.59 | E-bola2 | and it said: [1]+ Stopped cat kom | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install |
| 18:15.04 | E-bola2 | how can i resume it? |
| 18:15.10 | The-Saint | press it again? |
| 18:15.14 | E-bola2 | nope :/ |
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| 18:15.19 | E-bola2 | and now a bunch of shit is missing :( |
| 18:15.20 | Eulex | E-bola2, fg, I think |
| 18:15.40 | E-bola2 | Eulex: you save me again :) |
| 18:16.00 | illsci | ok i give up |
| 18:16.19 | raf256 | ok |
| 18:16.20 | Eulex | E-bola2, :) |
| 18:16.20 | illsci | why does debian over-write/clobber my /etc/motd everytime i reboot and how do i turn that off |
| 18:16.35 | raf256 | I have debian32, I downloaded kernel source (2.6.16) how to build it in 64 bit mode? |
| 18:16.44 | raf256 | and can I use that 64 bit kernel with current 32 bit userspace |
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| 18:17.48 | goron | I think my Debian machine has crashed by just executing a user space binary. It's still running. Can I get error logs anywhere? |
| 18:17.49 | soc10path | raf256 why not just use the 32 bit version? do you have more than 4gb of ram? |
| 18:17.58 | unstable | !logs |
| 18:17.59 | dpkg | logs are what you should always check when you have a problem. They live in /var/log/ |
| 18:17.59 | ryan` | "Unable to change tty /dev/ttyS0: Read-only file system" Anyone know how to prevent that on a read-only filesystem? I get it when i log in. |
| 18:18.18 | goron | unstable: Does the nvidia driver also logs there? |
| 18:18.33 | goron | I think the error is in their code |
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| 18:20.03 | raf256 | soc10path: perhaps I will have over 4 GB of total ram+virtual |
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| 18:20.27 | soc10path | raf256 virtual doesn't count |
| 18:20.34 | raf256 | soc10path: also I wanted to start playing with 64bit in 64bit chroot |
| 18:20.58 | E-bola2 | How can u remove the first 100 lines of a txtfile in debian? |
| 18:20.59 | soc10path | raf256 the main point of a 64 bit proc (and i have an athlon64) is to address physical ram more than 4gb |
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| 18:21.18 | Eulex | E-bola2, use sed |
| 18:21.23 | PovAddict | hello |
| 18:21.28 | raf256 | soc10path: hmm ok |
| 18:21.45 | PovAddict | I have a question about jigdo (this is the best place to ask that I found) |
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| 18:22.08 | soc10path | raf256 it's more of a headache right now since people are transitioning to 64bit |
| 18:22.18 | soc10path | raf256 less supported |
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| 18:23.14 | yoo | Hi ! |
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| 18:23.22 | harleyg | whats the debian package that has apache2's sample.mk in it? |
| 18:23.22 | yoo | i have a problem with nfs |
| 18:23.40 | yoo | RPC:Program not registered. |
| 18:23.48 | yoo | mountd is OK on my server |
| 18:23.53 | yoo | and portmap also |
| 18:24.00 | yoo | so what's the problem |
| 18:24.01 | yoo | ? |
| 18:24.06 | PovAddict | I have a semi-downloaded (BitTorrent) Debian DVD iso (23% done) |
| 18:24.13 | PovAddict | I want to continue download with jigdo |
| 18:24.30 | PovAddict | I have the beginning of the file, so file structure is probably there |
| 18:24.34 | PovAddict | should I try to mount it? |
| 18:24.55 | harleyg | anyone? |
| 18:25.00 | harleyg | or am i talking to myself? |
| 18:25.32 | eeyore- | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/izilla.shtml |
| 18:25.39 | cahoot | harleyg: maybe try at packages.debian.org? |
| 18:25.49 | harleyg | ive looked |
| 18:26.32 | harleyg | and i meant special.mk |
| 18:27.21 | Eulex | harleyg, apt-file search special.mk |
| 18:27.24 | yoo | i have this in my log : |
| 18:27.25 | cahoot | devel/apache2-prefork-dev,devel/apache2-threaded-dev |
| 18:27.27 | yoo | recv_rply: can't decode RPC message! |
| 18:27.31 | illsci | yooo... thats portmap dood |
| 18:27.32 | harleyg | i have them. |
| 18:27.34 | abrotman | !tell harleyg about search |
| 18:27.42 | cahoot | harleyg: ^^according to pdo |
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| 18:27.58 | yoo | illsci, portmap is OK on my server |
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| 18:28.10 | eeyore- | check out the izilla :-) portable mp3/dvd and vinyl player :-) |
| 18:28.12 | illsci | make sure you dont have some host based firewall clipping the connection to 111 |
| 18:28.20 | yoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.20 | yoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.26 | harleyg | i have that package. |
| 18:28.42 | djk_ | if you're an admin of something where are the customers files usually stored? |
| 18:28.46 | Eulex | harleyg, then you should have that file. |
| 18:28.50 | illsci | and you can connect to it remotely? and nfs is started.. |
| 18:29.03 | cahoot | djk_: isn't that up to the admin? |
| 18:29.22 | PovAddict | eeyore-: OMFG |
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| 18:29.27 | yoo | illsci, my two computer ping itsefl |
| 18:29.31 | djk_ | cahoot: i suppose, but what is suggested or usually used? |
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| 18:29.36 | yoo | illsci, my two computer ping themsefl |
| 18:29.39 | illsci | yoo use netcat |
| 18:29.45 | yoo | how ? |
| 18:29.47 | illsci | nc -v someip 111 |
| 18:29.51 | yoo | sorry i don't know |
| 18:29.54 | darkness_ | If you run SSHD and give someone a shell account. Is it easily possible to control what programs they have access to? |
| 18:29.54 | illsci | from your client to your nfs server |
| 18:29.56 | cahoot | djk_: customer being the same as user? |
| 18:29.58 | illsci | or telnet... |
| 18:30.06 | goron | What logs are related to crashing besides /var/log/syslog? |
| 18:30.23 | abrotman | the crashing of *what* ? |
| 18:30.28 | goron | abrotman: Linux |
| 18:30.31 | goron | abrotman: the kernel |
| 18:30.34 | illsci | or just make sure iptables isnt up... iptables -L |
| 18:30.35 | djk_ | cahoot: well i suppose. |
| 18:30.36 | cahoot | djk_: you realise the question is very unspecific? |
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| 18:30.41 | djk_ | cahoot: i know |
| 18:30.43 | goron | abrotman: I think the driver nvidia |
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| 18:31.10 | goron | abrotman: ? |
| 18:31.14 | eeyore- | povad: hilarious :-) |
| 18:31.22 | abrotman | goron: what makes you think that? |
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| 18:31.28 | eeyore- | PovAddict: did you see the 1-UP mushroom growing kit? |
| 18:31.46 | goron | abrotman: I was playing UT2004. It crashed Linux more than once before. |
| 18:31.49 | eeyore- | (as in, Mario Bros) |
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| 18:32.00 | goron | abrotman: It never crashed on other occasions. |
| 18:32.01 | abrotman | goron: guess you shuld start there then |
| 18:32.01 | PovAddict | eeyore-: huh? |
| 18:32.03 | Eulex | eeyore-, I saw it, it was hilarious :) |
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| 18:32.10 | eeyore- | Eulex: haha :-) i want one! |
| 18:32.19 | Eulex | eeyore-, me too :o) |
| 18:32.26 | eeyore- | Eulex: i think the 1-UP mushroom kit is very feasible |
| 18:32.50 | goron | abrotman: Aren't there any other kernel logs? I can imagine that it can detect that it's stuck in the kernel or something like that. |
| 18:33.17 | abrotman | goron: it would all be in /var/log/ |
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| 18:33.37 | goron | abrotman: /var/log has a gigantic number of entries. Can you be more specific? |
| 18:34.06 | abrotman | goron: dmesg kern.log syslog messages .. start with those |
| 18:34.42 | abrotman | and maybe the X logs |
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| 18:35.41 | lws | Anybody have problems with the st driver in 2.6.8 kernel 16sarge |
| 18:35.42 | lws | ? |
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| 18:36.06 | goron | abrotman: none of those (including x logs) says anything. |
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| 18:36.46 | Eulex | goron, guess you're SOL then |
| 18:37.08 | goron | Eulex: Wow, you found an acronym I don't know. Kudos for you! |
| 18:37.23 | cahoot | djk_: $HOME |
| 18:37.35 | Eulex | !sol |
| 18:37.35 | dpkg | hmm... sol is Shit Outta Luck. Sex On Legs. Earth's star, or the note that precedes La, or but really straight out of luck, or a shit beer |
| 18:37.39 | yoo | illsci, |
| 18:37.41 | yoo | marge:~# nc -v 192.168.1.10 111 |
| 18:37.41 | yoo | simpson.yoo.dnsalias.org [192.168.1.10] 111 (sunrpc) : Connection timed out |
| 18:37.45 | Eulex | goron, hehe :) |
| 18:37.49 | goron | Eulex: :) |
| 18:37.53 | illsci | see... you cant connect to portmap |
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| 18:38.05 | yoo | yes |
| 18:38.08 | yoo | but why |
| 18:38.11 | illsci | try this |
| 18:38.14 | illsci | iptables -L |
| 18:38.19 | yoo | outch !!! |
| 18:38.29 | yoo | i use a wrt54gs linksys |
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| 18:38.46 | peppo | why can't I access the non-mirror ftp.debian.org? |
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| 18:38.52 | djk_ | cahoot: thanks |
| 18:38.58 | illsci | right but im saying that you might have default iptables rules enabled... im not sure if debian does that or not.. though |
| 18:39.02 | goron | Is there any operating system that does not give full control to its drivers? Or get control back after some time? Or is this a limitation of x86 hardware? |
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| 18:39.24 | illsci | either way something is blocking your connections |
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| 18:39.57 | zumbi_ | goron: not sure if i have understand your question, but what about Real Time OSes ? |
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| 18:40.02 | daquino | do i only need cd1 ? |
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| 18:40.08 | peppo | alternately. where can one get packages that haven't landed in the Debian FTP? |
| 18:40.20 | zumbi_ | daquino: yes - if you have good internet connection |
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| 18:40.35 | daquino | yea but what doens't come on cd1 ? |
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| 18:40.56 | goron | zumbi_: That's not really what I meant. |
| 18:41.00 | abrotman | !d-i daquino |
| 18:41.04 | dpkg | daquino, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 18:41.10 | abrotman | !cd contents |
| 18:41.10 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
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| 18:41.31 | goron | I think the basic problem is that on x86 hardware you either give full control to your drivers or interpret the code in software. |
| 18:41.42 | goron | If you do the latter it will be damn slow. |
| 18:41.47 | daquino | dpkg: im allready downloading the first cd |
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| 18:41.54 | daquino | im just asking |
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| 18:42.14 | abrotman | dpkg: bark |
| 18:42.26 | blobaugh | lol |
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| 18:44.15 | goron | !lol |
| 18:44.15 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 18:44.37 | zumbi_ | goron: it's hard for me to see your point. Why drivers shouldn't have full control ? |
| 18:44.37 | goron | I think abrotman thought up that one ;) |
| 18:44.46 | abrotman | nope |
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| 18:44.52 | qweasdzxc | hi, could someone point me to the web interface of the xorg svn? (if there is one...) |
| 18:44.54 | goron | zumbi_: Because they crash. |
| 18:45.08 | abrotman | qweasdzxc: try http://www.x.org .. or ask #xorg |
| 18:45.13 | goron | zumbi_: They aren't tested as much as the rest of the kernel code. |
| 18:45.16 | zumbi_ | goron: no if those are correctly programmed |
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| 18:45.50 | goron | zumbi_: Commercial drivers are not often correctly programmed. |
| 18:45.57 | zumbi_ | goron: those need to be fixed. Are other arches different than x86 in this matter ? |
| 18:46.01 | goron | zumbi_: At least that's my experience. |
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| 18:46.20 | goron | zumbi_: I don't know. |
| 18:46.37 | goron | zumbi_: I know some way of how I could do it in hardware. |
| 18:46.41 | nvz | man walking in the valley just isnt as easy as I remembered. just the 2 miles or so to Sewickley has been tiring me out. I am thinking about going dahntahn later this month for the MS walk, but I gotta shape up cause this walking is kicking my ass. |
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| 18:47.22 | zumbi_ | goron: good ideas are always good =) |
| 18:47.38 | goron | zumbi_: I wonder whether I can get the patent on that ;) |
| 18:47.45 | nvz | always? |
| 18:47.52 | nvz | dpkg, any ideas? |
| 18:47.52 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of string, a little cod liver oil, and a handful of sex-crazed weasels. And keep the cops off my back for the next few minutes! |
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| 18:48.01 | nvz | does that sound like a good idea? |
| 18:48.20 | abrotman | depends what you're doing with that stuff |
| 18:48.25 | nvz | heh |
| 18:48.25 | EdibleText | a good time perhaps |
| 18:49.00 | nvz | hmm theres a big assed spider on my kleenex box |
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| 18:49.18 | abrotman | !alicekill thespider |
| 18:49.23 | nvz | never seen one like that before.. he looks almost transparent |
| 18:49.46 | abrotman | nvz: that's what happens when your ass never sees sunlight |
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| 18:50.03 | zumbi_ | hehe |
| 18:50.17 | EdibleText | protoplasmic jello buns |
| 18:50.19 | _ThePiratemaster | how do i reset my MYSQL root password |
| 18:50.21 | nvz | abrotman: I just walked all the way to sewickley and back. I see the sunlight |
| 18:50.28 | zumbi_ | goron: if it is good for community, could try GPL2 |
| 18:50.31 | abrotman | nvz: i meant the spider |
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| 18:50.39 | abrotman | _ThePiratemaster: ask #mysql |
| 18:50.51 | _ThePiratemaster | i did |
| 18:50.53 | aquaman | And we wre both jumping up and down shouting "kill kill kill" and they said you're our boy. |
| 18:50.56 | goron | zumbi_: I think patents and GPL2 both stiffle innovation. |
| 18:51.03 | moein | I have a Sony Vaio S58GP Laptop, and want to install Debian Sarge. It has a SATA Harddisk with ICH6(M) controller. how can I force Debian Sarge to detect it ? |
| 18:51.03 | nvz | hmm and its alive too.. imagine that |
| 18:51.04 | _ThePiratemaster | when the tutorial didnt work they said it was a debain specific thing |
| 18:51.15 | konfuzed | shite shite my internet some how keeps dwindling |
| 18:51.23 | wols | !tell moein about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 18:51.27 | abrotman | _ThePiratemaster: i doubt it |
| 18:51.27 | jel | _ThePiratemaster: msqladmin, perhaps? |
| 18:51.44 | madona | wht to do to obtain a result from this ??? echo -e '<tbody>some \n think</tbody>' | grep -o '<tbody>.*</tbody>' |
| 18:51.54 | _ThePiratemaster | i do not have the rootpassword, thats the catch |
| 18:51.56 | jel | It's possible that debian's higher security settings make it a little tougher |
| 18:52.00 | konfuzed | ip based still works but web browser keep saying connection refused to sites I was just reading |
| 18:52.07 | _ThePiratemaster | it apperas to have beEN ERASED |
| 18:52.29 | wols | konfuzed: fix your DNS in /etc/resolv.conf I guess |
| 18:52.29 | nvz | jel: its possible that you know very little about security, and nobody in here has any idea what you are talking about |
| 18:52.31 | konfuzed | resolv.conf is good route -rn only shows two proper lines |
| 18:52.37 | jel | _ThePiratemaster: try looking in /usr/share/doc/mysql* |
| 18:52.42 | konfuzed | ping to domain names works |
| 18:52.50 | konfuzed | then I cant bring up the page |
| 18:53.11 | wols | konfuzed: proxy somewhere then? |
| 18:53.22 | wols | madnatory transparent proxy? |
| 18:53.27 | E-bola2 | when compiling a kernel in debian, after having finished .config and having run make-kpkg clean |
| 18:53.30 | E-bola2 | whats next? |
| 18:53.32 | konfuzed | i dont have any proxys on the go not here any way |
| 18:53.37 | jel | nvz: if you have an accusation to make, argue it with decent logic, otherwise keep your baseless accusations to yourself |
| 18:53.51 | konfuzed | maybe embedded proxy in gateway router ? |
| 18:53.56 | vin` | E-bola2: man make-kpkg |
| 18:53.57 | darkness_ | goron, how does x86 arch differ from any other in what you said about drivers etc? |
| 18:54.06 | cahoot | jel: you are aware you are in #debian+ |
| 18:54.06 | konfuzed | as in dns proxy or http proxy? |
| 18:54.08 | wols | E-bola2: make-kpkg --targets |
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| 18:54.18 | wols | konfuzed: http proxy |
| 18:54.18 | jel | cahoot: hehh, yes :) |
| 18:54.27 | goron | darkness_: I don't know, you tell me. |
| 18:54.29 | konfuzed | none that I know of |
| 18:54.44 | Led_Zeppelin | if I have 2 running linux systems. Is it possible to install a new distribution on the system #2, without using CD, and PXE boot? |
| 18:54.45 | darkness_ | goron, it doesn't :-P |
| 18:54.49 | konfuzed | certainly not on this box |
| 18:54.55 | goron | darkness_: That's what I thought. |
| 18:54.59 | nvz | jel: I've been using debian for ages and never heard anything called "higher security settings" .. its not worth arguing I was just letting you know your statement made no sense |
| 18:55.04 | goron | darkness_: Maybe we need a new arch... |
| 18:55.20 | darkness_ | aye. |
| 18:55.39 | konfuzed | finally the damn webmail can send again |
| 18:55.44 | jel | nvz: I've been using it for 10 years, and specifically had to research what debian had changed for mysql, because it caused problems. Happy now? |
| 18:56.38 | nvz | I'm always happy my happiness isnt tangable and therefore only I control it. |
| 18:56.53 | jel | nvz: something we agree on then :) |
| 18:56.57 | nvz | heh |
| 18:56.58 | konfuzed | even gmail stopped connected while im writing an email. gmail still says check your internet connection. I had to use my own web mail server and then that complained of connecction refused |
| 18:57.04 | konfuzed | ah frustrating |
| 18:57.21 | konfuzed | it does not seem to happen on the win98 box across the room |
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| 19:00.22 | E-bola2 | Do anybody have some text that explains why u shouldnt be root when compiling a kernel? |
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| 19:01.35 | wols | cause you don't actually need to be root. so being it wihtout need is always bad |
| 19:02.05 | cahoot | wols: yes - but why when compiling a kernel? |
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| 19:02.51 | abrotman | E-bola2: it goes wonky .. and deletes your life ? |
| 19:02.57 | jel | E-bola2: yep, it's just the principle of least privilege. A makefile could hose your whole system, accidentally or intentionally, by deleting files or filling the hard drive, or... |
| 19:03.11 | E-bola2 | ohh ok |
| 19:03.18 | E-bola2 | i just wanted to know if there was another reason |
| 19:03.26 | E-bola2 | thanks jel |
| 19:03.34 | cahoot | jel: you distrust a makefile from kernel.org? |
| 19:04.14 | E-bola2 | Well no need to trust it more than necesary |
| 19:04.16 | E-bola2 | i thinkt hats the point |
| 19:04.27 | jel | E-bola: there's also the development issue, where it's good to be unable to install files etc., so you don't accidentally do things and not realise you're making stuff for other developers that requires root permissions to use. |
| 19:04.43 | wols | cahoot: why would you actually need to be root for compiling it? The fear is probably someone letting you compile and execute (via make scripts), harmful code |
| 19:04.56 | wols | cahoot: so anytime you compile as root: very bad |
| 19:04.56 | jel | cahoot: Actually, I might, if I was on a mission critical system. |
| 19:05.24 | cahoot | jel: fair enough - I'm just a dilettant |
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| 19:05.53 | E-bola2 | it sure woudl be nice with an estimate |
| 19:05.57 | wols | cahoot: the special danger of compiling is that you run stuff from outside your harddisk more or less |
| 19:06.06 | E-bola2 | how long would u guys guess it takes to conmpile the sarge default 2.6.8 kernel on a p4 2.8 ghz? |
| 19:06.36 | epsilon | depends how much you compile |
| 19:06.47 | nvz | E-bola2: configuration takes longer than compile usually in that case,.. and the compile depends on the config |
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| 19:06.53 | E-bola2 | i just copied the config from standard sarge kernel |
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| 19:06.54 | epsilon | for normal PC, 15 min? |
| 19:06.56 | wols | half hour maybe. depends on lots of things. RAM, diskspeed, etc. so it's hard to say |
| 19:07.02 | epsilon | or less |
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| 19:07.20 | E-bola2 | hmmm anoying there isnt any sort of progress indicator at all |
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| 19:07.40 | abrotman | "You're 55% done compiling a non-functional kernel!" |
| 19:07.41 | wols | you get a lot of shiny stuff scrolling by |
| 19:07.48 | jel | lol abrotman :) |
| 19:07.50 | wols | abrotman: like that one |
| 19:07.56 | E-bola2 | atm its compiliong drivers |
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| 19:08.55 | epsilon | "You've compiled 100% of stuff you really need in 10 min. Now compiling 5% the the stuff you never need, remaining 45min" |
| 19:09.03 | E-bola2 | :) |
| 19:09.14 | wols | epsilon: you've compiled X before I gather? |
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| 19:09.19 | E-bola2 | is it normal for lots of the kernel stuff to use deprecated functions? |
| 19:09.25 | epsilon | X? Kernel? |
| 19:09.55 | ryan` | arg |
| 19:10.09 | nvz | aye matie |
| 19:10.11 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: no kidding. MySQL does suck |
| 19:10.39 | ryan` | Why does watchdog have a HARDCODED log directory? |
| 19:11.06 | nvz | why would it matter |
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| 19:11.16 | ryan` | nvz, read only root |
| 19:11.20 | nvz | there is a such thing as a symlink |
| 19:11.25 | nvz | and chmod |
| 19:11.29 | ryan` | doesn't work. |
| 19:11.37 | jel | E-bola2: yes, kind of. Some drivers aren't updated regularly (usually if they already work, and no one is working on them regularly for other reasons) and so they get out of sync with APIs. It'll probably be fixed before the deprecated functions are removed, or it'll be removed itself. |
| 19:11.49 | Vibe-- | Is there a way to check if a network connection is working during install ? |
| 19:11.51 | ryan` | nvz, need to start it before mounting any filesystems. |
| 19:12.10 | yang | Gnea: why dont you answer? |
| 19:12.26 | nvz | ryan`: then that explains the hardcoded directory doesnt it |
| 19:12.50 | nvz | ryan`: run console log or something.. so you always have the log open in tty8 or such |
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| 19:14.00 | ryan` | nvz, the log paths are hardcoded, there is no option to change them. |
| 19:14.43 | S4nD3r | Hello... Id like to know which software to use to draw network maps in my linux box??? Dia, theres no resource to rotate objects, then doesnt work forme... |
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| 19:15.34 | jel | S4nD3r: kivio might do it. If not, try inkscape. |
| 19:16.04 | jel | S4nD3r: oh, umbrello might do it too. |
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| 19:17.03 | jel | S4nD3r: no, never mind; not umbrello; I was thinking of something else :) |
| 19:17.25 | S4nD3r | I will try inkscape |
| 19:17.37 | S4nD3r | because I want not to install koffice, since I just have installed openoffice |
| 19:17.57 | Led_Zeppelin | if I have 2 running linux systems. Is it possible to install a new distribution on the system #2, without using CD, and PXE boot? |
| 19:18.25 | jel | S4nD3r: OK, but bear in mind that inkscape is a last resort; it's a general vector drawing app; not something specifically for network diagrams or even just diagrams |
| 19:18.37 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: you can use pxe to install |
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| 19:21.33 | ryan` | what do you put in debian/control to indicate that a package conflicts with another? |
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| 19:21.49 | dondelelcaro | Conflicts: foopkg |
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| 19:21.59 | dondelelcaro | ryan`: see /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.txt.gz |
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| 19:22.40 | veleno | is there some tool to add a password protection to a pdf document made by OpenOffice ? |
| 19:22.43 | ryan` | dondelelcaro, thanks. that's what i thought, i just spelled it wrong, heh. |
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| 19:22.56 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: any other way than that? I am not 100% sure if my hardware can support PXe |
| 19:23.00 | jel | veleno: gnupg :) |
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| 19:23.17 | ryan` | dpkg: -L /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.txt.gz |
| 19:23.17 | dpkg | ii /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.txt.gz 3.1-15 ryan`'s private porn collection |
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| 19:23.35 | ryan` | dpkg: -l /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.txt.gz |
| 19:23.35 | dpkg | No packages found matching /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.txt.gz |
| 19:23.57 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: so you want to do an install with a usb dot matrix printer? |
| 19:24.02 | dondelelcaro | veleno: use gpg |
| 19:24.22 | dondelelcaro | ryan`: it's in debian-policy |
| 19:24.32 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: if possible I would like to install using chroot |
| 19:24.34 | veleno | jel, dondelelcaro : i'd |
| 19:24.39 | ryan` | tanks |
| 19:24.56 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: i think you should define your requirements a little better so we can give you some choices |
| 19:24.58 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: create a new partition, install something there (if possibe). Boot from that partition |
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| 19:25.22 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: want to install Linux without PXE or CDROM or USB |
| 19:25.31 | veleno | jel, dondelelcaro : i'm not sure i need gpg. i don't need such a strong system. |
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| 19:25.45 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: we've got FLOPPIES! |
| 19:25.50 | Led_Zeppelin | crap! |
| 19:25.50 | Led_Zeppelin | lol |
| 19:26.03 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: you can try debootstrap .. |
| 19:26.06 | ryan` | dondelelcaro, can I create a package foo-local that provides foo and conflicts with foo? |
| 19:26.15 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman: yah, i may go that way, sound cool. |
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| 19:26.47 | ryan` | oh, I want Replaces |
| 19:26.49 | wols | ryan`: yes |
| 19:26.51 | Thanatermesis | any person has reported the link of this f**** child porn spammer to the "authorities" ? |
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| 19:27.19 | jel | veleno: it's as easy as any other for personal use; your file manager can just encrypt and unencrypt by right-clicking and choosing a menu option. If you want to distribute the file with a built-in password, that's more difficult, but probably possible. The thing to bear in mind though, is that when distributing the file, it's at greater risk than ever. The built-in security is really worthless. |
| 19:27.20 | abrotman | Thanatermesis: huh? |
| 19:27.20 | dondelelcaro | ryan`: you want all three, actually. |
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| 19:27.44 | ryan` | dondelelcaro: Thank you. |
| 19:27.51 | dondelelcaro | veleno: well, you either want it encrypted, or you don't. Half measures are kind of pointless. |
| 19:28.08 | dondelelcaro | veleno: if half measures are good enough, then the physical security of the media is probably reasoanble. |
| 19:28.09 | Thanatermesis | abrotman ban "reverandbin" please |
| 19:28.14 | veleno | dondelelcaro, i don't want to 'encrypt' it. i want to password-protectet it |
| 19:28.20 | resiak | Thanatermesis: abrotman's not an op |
| 19:28.29 | Thanatermesis | is a child porn spammer to are spamming all the channels of freenode |
| 19:28.34 | Thanatermesis | any op then :) |
| 19:28.42 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: that person isn't even on this channel |
| 19:29.11 | dondelelcaro | veleno: any good password protection scheme necessarily involves encrypting the datastream. |
| 19:29.13 | wols | Thanatermesis: tell it to freenode staff. they'll kline him/it |
| 19:29.19 | jel | veleno: same thing. If it's not encrypted, the password is meaningless |
| 19:29.20 | resiak | Thanatermesis: /stats p |
| 19:30.16 | veleno | dondelelcaro, so,..to keep things simple, how can I encrypt doc.pdf using password 'aRandomPassword' ? |
| 19:30.16 | Thanatermesis | wols lilo is away and i don't look any another /stats person... |
| 19:30.17 | Thanatermesis | in any case.. --- reverandbin :No such nick/channel |
| 19:30.30 | dondelelcaro | (it's not like gpg -c foo.pdf> foo.pdf.gpg; is hard) |
| 19:30.40 | dondelelcaro | veleno: see above. |
| 19:30.47 | dondelelcaro | veleno: and man gpg; for details |
| 19:31.20 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: lilo has a pager if it's a big deal... |
| 19:31.21 | ryan` | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2267 < is this debian/control correct? |
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| 19:31.59 | dondelelcaro | ryan`: looks fine to me |
| 19:32.30 | ryan` | dondelelcaro, thanks. I'm still learning about making packages. |
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| 19:32.39 | jel | veleno: http://sevenroot.org/dlc/2004/08/practical-gnupg/ |
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| 19:32.53 | jel | veleno: just gpg --symmetric filename |
| 19:34.02 | cubiq | anyone used evms? |
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| 19:34.26 | jel | veleno: but, if you're new to gpg, you might want to look into a gui frontend, like kgpg or err... whatever the gnome one is called :) |
| 19:34.40 | Led_Zeppelin | gpgp |
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| 19:37.24 | abrotman | i'm definitely not an op :) |
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| 19:39.52 | sEbaKiLLeR | hi vereybody |
| 19:40.04 | sEbaKiLLeR | anyone want to make a hack group? |
| 19:40.08 | DevilChaos | there must be something with a gui that i can use to manage my disks |
| 19:40.32 | DevilChaos | sebakiller i told you before |
| 19:40.35 | veleno | jel, dondelelcaro : i still think gpg doesn't fit my needs. the scenario is the following: i want to protect a PDF file (not other files in other formats), so that users I distribute files to need it to open it (or to extract the text from). |
| 19:41.00 | sEbaKiLLeR | DevilChaos: hi again , do u really want? |
| 19:41.06 | DevilChaos | no |
| 19:41.14 | sEbaKiLLeR | i know |
| 19:41.14 | cahoot | veleno: might pdftk do the job? |
| 19:41.16 | sEbaKiLLeR | lol |
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| 19:42.03 | jel | veleno: Well then you can probably find a tool that'll add a password to the pdf, or you could put it into a password protected zip file, but you should be aware that it will NOT be very secure; you'll only be keeping out people who don't really try to get in. |
| 19:42.59 | sEbaKiLLeR | ??? |
| 19:43.34 | sEbaKiLLeR | i can say u that i ve read a lot of manuals about linux and programming |
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| 19:43.45 | _rene_ | !u |
| 19:43.45 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 19:43.47 | DevilChaos | are you running dedian? |
| 19:43.47 | veleno | jel: i think in first approximation, it could be fine |
| 19:43.49 | dondelelcaro | veleno: why in the world do you want to do that? |
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| 19:44.03 | dondelelcaro | veleno: just give them the pdf, and let them do with it as they will. |
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| 19:44.11 | sEbaKiLLeR | i speak spanish guys! |
| 19:44.22 | zumbi_ | !es |
| 19:44.22 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 19:44.36 | DevilChaos | whats spanish for....................... |
| 19:44.48 | sEbaKiLLeR | thanks dear bot! |
| 19:44.53 | sEbaKiLLeR | lol |
| 19:44.58 | zumbi_ | !lol |
| 19:44.59 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 19:45.11 | sEbaKiLLeR | haha |
| 19:45.16 | sEbaKiLLeR | thats right |
| 19:45.18 | Thanatermesis | xD |
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| 19:45.30 | sEbaKiLLeR | its cool to talk with a bot!! |
| 19:45.33 | sEbaKiLLeR | well |
| 19:45.34 | sEbaKiLLeR | bye |
| 19:45.35 | Thanatermesis | xD <--- cartman style =) |
| 19:46.15 | jel | veleno: then, as cahoot says, pdftk sounds like your best bet, but I haven't tried it. |
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| 19:47.33 | ryan` | hmm |
| 19:47.50 | ryan` | is there anyway to override the init.d file name and doc path used? |
| 19:48.25 | ryan` | debian/rules is trying to use /etc/init.d/pkgname, which is not what I want. |
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| 19:49.09 | cahoot | veleno: seems like pdftk lets you encrypt and set a passwd |
| 19:49.10 | ryan` | oh, found it |
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| 19:50.12 | ryan` | what about docs? |
| 19:50.22 | ryan` | dh_installdocs doesn't take the --name option. |
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| 19:51.08 | JerJer[mobile] | how does one go about installing debian from an external USB drive? |
| 19:51.15 | JerJer[mobile] | google didn't immedately find much :( |
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| 19:51.22 | slushpupie | if I want to install a new certificate authority on debian so all (most?) applications can use it, where do I put it? |
| 19:51.34 | JerJer[mobile] | i get 'cannot mount cdrom' but it boots from it perfectly fine |
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| 19:52.35 | beardy | JerJer[mobile]: /msg dpkg ig |
| 19:52.47 | jel | slushpupie: I think you would install the CA, and then configure each app to use it, or to use the actual certificates by their path. |
| 19:52.48 | beardy | JerJer[mobile]: How do you mount it, exactly? |
| 19:53.04 | JerJer[mobile] | i don't know how |
| 19:53.10 | JerJer[mobile] | this is my first attempt to pull this off |
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| 19:53.16 | slushpupie | jel: install it where? |
| 19:53.24 | jel | slushpupie: if there's a standard way, the debian packages will probably be configured to set it up that way for you. Just install the package |
| 19:53.32 | beardy | JerJer[mobile]: How do you get that error message then? |
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| 19:53.37 | sohmestra | what is the command to refresh one's environment without logging out and back in? |
| 19:53.41 | jel | slushpupie: and then read its documentation in /usr/share/doc/packagename |
| 19:53.42 | slushpupie | jel: what package? |
| 19:53.45 | JerJer[mobile] | beardy: the debian installer |
| 19:53.49 | jel | slushpupie: tinyca is one |
| 19:53.49 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 19:53.53 | abrotman | !usb-install |
| 19:53.53 | dpkg | well, usb-install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian (sarge) from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
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| 19:54.00 | beardy | sohmestra: Depends on what you mean, but probably 'source .bashrc' |
| 19:54.02 | abrotman | though .. i'm not sure tha'ts what he wants |
| 19:54.03 | JerJer[mobile] | my system boots the external dvd rom without issue |
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| 19:54.19 | sohmestra | beardy: that doesnt help if I've changed group membership or something |
| 19:54.21 | jel | slushpupie: use apt-cache search or aptitude or synaptic to find the packages that do what you want |
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| 19:54.59 | JerJer[mobile] | abrotman: but this is not a memory stick - i burned the DVD images onto DVD-R |
| 19:55.22 | slushpupie | jel: I just want to add my certificate authority to the "general pool" of other certificate authorities. Is there no common location for it? |
| 19:55.22 | beardy | sohmestra: Group membership? Of what, and what has that got to do with your "environment". Please define "environment" in this case. |
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| 19:55.39 | JerJer[mobile] | and there is no /dev/sda1 in the debian install envrionment |
| 19:55.47 | DevilChaos | what about using a live cd to check what i all have on disks and then use c f disk to check file type on the disks and mount each seperatly and take the stufff i need then us cfdisk to format sound like a good idea? |
| 19:56.02 | DevilChaos | damn typos |
| 19:56.09 | DevilChaos | my typing sucks |
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| 19:56.29 | jel | slushpupie: have a read at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/284 and http://www.openca.org/ |
| 19:56.32 | sohmestra | beardy: environment was probably a bad term. If my group membership changes, how to I get that to take effect without having to logout/login? |
| 19:56.34 | beardy | DevilChaos: You can also use 'fdisk -l' to list the partitions. |
| 19:56.48 | DevilChaos | hmm try that obne too |
| 19:56.53 | DevilChaos | one |
| 19:56.56 | DevilChaos | damn |
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| 19:57.24 | beardy | sohmestra: I don't think you can, you probably have to do that, log out and back in. |
| 19:57.55 | jel | slushpupie: in the case of a PKI CA, it's a server, so the on-disk location won't matter much. If you're generating individual certificates for self-signed ssl web/mail/whatever- sites, then you just configure your server to use the certificate |
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| 19:58.21 | The-Saint | okay...sorted X |
| 19:58.30 | The-Saint | now the network.... |
| 19:58.44 | JerJer[mobile] | so how does one mount a usb dvd drive ? |
| 19:58.54 | JerJer[mobile] | that's all i need |
| 19:58.54 | deternal | dmesg |
| 19:59.04 | deternal | check what the device is registered as |
| 19:59.09 | DevilChaos | need to fix error on one of them the partitions arent right got this message Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System |
| 19:59.11 | deternal | make a mount point and mount there |
| 19:59.12 | jel | JerJer[mobile]: it'll be a scsi cdrom drive; look for /dev/sr* |
| 19:59.17 | DevilChaos | /dev/hde1 ? 13578 119522 850995205 72 Unknown |
| 19:59.17 | DevilChaos | Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. |
| 19:59.32 | DevilChaos | 2,3&4 |
| 19:59.36 | maxxle | I try to get a dm-crypted partition up and running. Now I need the device-mapper from the kernel. I'm running on debian/testing default kernel 2.6.15. Is there a module I have to load in order to get the device-mapper running? |
| 19:59.58 | JerJer[mobile] | jel: i am in the debian intall envrionment |
| 20:00.05 | JerJer[mobile] | there is no /dev/s* anything |
| 20:00.14 | jel | maxxle: there are packages for device mapper that make it a case of editing /etc/crypttab, I think |
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| 20:00.23 | JerJer[mobile] | dmesg says scsi2 |
| 20:00.27 | harleyg | how do i dump mp3 from a video file with mencoder |
| 20:01.07 | maxxle | jel: dmsetup targets tells me that: "/proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found" |
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| 20:01.40 | JerJer[mobile] | and there is nothing in /proc/bus/usb |
| 20:01.42 | jel | harleyg: try mplayer -ao help |
| 20:01.50 | jel | or mencoder :) |
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| 20:03.37 | harleyg | ive looked :) |
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| 20:04.20 | jel | harleyg: oh yeah, there's an -oac option, but read man mencoder. You'll probably find some scripts/frontends around to make it simpler too. |
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| 20:04.52 | thin | uh, whats the package name that has rar ? |
| 20:04.58 | thin | apt-get install rar doesn't work.. |
| 20:05.05 | thin | apt-cache search rar is too generic.. |
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| 20:05.20 | beardy | thin: Don't guess. |
| 20:05.21 | ircdevil | the last part of the ntpdate factoid is rather unclear: just run ntp-server, and add the 'iburst' option to the 'server' lines in ntp.conf. what iburst option? |
| 20:05.21 | jel | thin: may unrar, but you probably have to add the non-free and contrib repositories |
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| 20:05.27 | beardy | !tell thin -about search |
| 20:05.30 | beardy | !unrar-free |
| 20:05.30 | dpkg | it has been said that unrar-free is an unarchiver for .rar files that can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format, which is by far the most used RAR format (ask me about unrar for 3.0). in main unstable |
| 20:05.49 | beardy | !unrar |
| 20:05.49 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, unrar is a non-free package and a command used to extract .rar archives, or ask me about unrar-free |
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| 20:05.58 | thin | i already tried apt-get install unrar |
| 20:06.15 | jel | and did you try the rest? |
| 20:06.16 | sohmestra | beardy: this wasn't exactly what I was looking for, but it is possible to do 'newgrp <group I was just added to>' to make my group membership effective without logging out |
| 20:06.17 | harleyg | jel, im trying: mplayer meh.avi -dumpaudio -dumpfile -oac mp3lame meh.mp3 |
| 20:06.23 | harleyg | but im not getting any output file |
| 20:06.25 | moyix | anyone know what "__alloc_pages: 2-order allocation failed (gfp=0x20/0)" means? I know 0-order allocation failures mean "out of memory", but the machine still has some physical and plenty of swap available |
| 20:06.30 | thin | jel: huh? |
| 20:06.34 | maxxle | Ah. Found the problem. The device-mapper is not compiled in the kernel. The module is called "dm-mod.ko" |
| 20:06.51 | beardy | thin: Do you have non-free in your sources.list? |
| 20:06.56 | beardy | !non-free |
| 20:06.56 | dpkg | hmm... non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html |
| 20:06.57 | thin | no i guess not |
| 20:07.17 | jel | harleyg: try "mplayer meh.avi -dumpaudio -oac mp3lame -dumpfile meh.mp3" instead; the -dumpfile arg needs its filename parameter right after |
| 20:07.32 | beardy | sohmestra: I see, thanks for letting me know, I didn't know about that. |
| 20:08.16 | harleyg | unknown option on the command: oac |
| 20:08.24 | harleyg | command line, whatever |
| 20:08.33 | jel | someone should mention vrms in that non-free factoid... |
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| 20:08.52 | beardy | jel: Be the one. |
| 20:09.06 | jel | beardy: I would, but I never bothered to figure out dpkg syntax :) |
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| 20:09.24 | DevilChaos | if ive got a new partition on a disk with 300gigs and it going to be a logical partition do i just want it to be of linux type or linux extended? |
| 20:09.25 | beardy | jel: Give me what you want added. |
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| 20:09.31 | abrotman | !vrms |
| 20:09.31 | dpkg | vrms is probably The Virtual Richard M. Stallman for Debian GNU/Linux, now included with every fresh potato! Good for sniffing out those pesky non-free software... |
| 20:09.41 | abrotman | why would you want to mention that? |
| 20:09.44 | DevilChaos | im using the whole disk |
| 20:09.53 | jel | beardy: just something like See also: vrms? |
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| 20:10.19 | beardy | (but the non-free factoid is perhaps to long already anyway) |
| 20:10.26 | jel | true :) |
| 20:10.47 | jel | Stallman was here recently; I should have asked him what he thought of vrms :) |
| 20:11.00 | beardy | I doubt that.. |
| 20:11.05 | EdibleText | in #debian? |
| 20:11.12 | jel | No, belfast |
| 20:11.15 | EdibleText | heh |
| 20:11.17 | EdibleText | oh |
| 20:11.34 | petemc | jel: were you at belfoss? |
| 20:11.41 | falkon | what is the best way to mount a remote file system and access it as if it were a network drive? smbfs has decided to stop working, and I can't figure out wtf to do with NFS |
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| 20:11.58 | jel | petemc: yep. I meant to track you down, but, you know, so much going on :) |
| 20:12.11 | petemc | jel: i hear ya, good day anyway |
| 20:12.20 | petemc | i went for dinner with bruce perens that night |
| 20:12.22 | homekneet | lvm2 - one disk of 3 dead. Having looked thru the lvm metadata file - that disk only has one pv on it - and that pv only has one lv on it. So - I remove the pv and lv from the metadata - but - at boot time - lvm is still trying to find the missing disk. Is there any way to tell lvm to ignore that disk? It's not a system (usr, var or similar) - just storage - I'd dearly love to get the home partition off this machine before reinstallin |
| 20:12.22 | homekneet | g :) |
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| 20:12.25 | jel | Yeah, it was. Nice to see that happening here :) |
| 20:12.25 | beardy | heh |
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| 20:12.34 | beardy | !non-free |
| 20:12.34 | dpkg | it has been said that non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html Also ask me about "vrms" |
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| 20:12.43 | jel | Ahh, you guys did do something after then? I should have checked that. |
| 20:13.01 | falkon | what is the best way to mount a remote file system and access it as if it were a network drive? smbfs has decided to stop working, and I can't figure out wtf to do with NFS |
| 20:13.10 | wols | !best |
| 20:13.10 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 20:13.21 | Thanatermesis | dondelelcaro you are op ? |
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| 20:13.31 | petemc | jel: just a few went, was v good |
| 20:13.33 | ircdevil | what is the name of camera info within a jpg file? xcif info? |
| 20:13.34 | wols | but generally you'd use samba or nfs, yes |
| 20:13.38 | jel | petemc: maybe I'll see you at a more mundane blug meeting soon? |
| 20:13.42 | Eulex | ircdevil, exif |
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| 20:13.43 | wols | ircdevil: EXIF I think |
| 20:13.44 | Coweater | ircdevil: exif |
| 20:13.54 | petemc | jel: perhaps, i hosted the last last |
| 20:13.57 | wols | Thanatermesis: yes he is |
| 20:13.59 | petemc | erm, last two |
| 20:14.05 | beardy | !non-free =~ s/non-free is always/<reply> non-free is always/ |
| 20:14.05 | dpkg | beardy: that doesn't contain 'non-free is always' |
| 20:14.14 | jel | petemc: oh yeah, the library bar one? Couldn't make that. |
| 20:14.20 | petemc | aye |
| 20:14.20 | falkon | wols: smbfs is fucked. I don't know what happened, but it's definately borked |
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| 20:14.27 | ircdevil | good. now, feh removes exif info when rotating images (should file a bug). any good alternative viewer that can turn pics without ruining exif? |
| 20:14.38 | Thanatermesis | wols again the "child porn spammer", with nickname longdukdong now |
| 20:14.42 | ggeecko | to use debian as a gateway do I need a switch |
| 20:14.46 | Eulex | !doesn't work |
| 20:14.47 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 20:14.51 | wols | Thanatermesis: /stats p |
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| 20:14.58 | wols | debian ops can't do a thing actually |
| 20:14.59 | jel | Last I heard from stallman and perens before I left was perens telling a story about rms wrapping his phone with foil :) I'm sorry I missed the rest :) |
| 20:15.09 | petemc | ggeecko: no, you could use a hub or a crossover cable |
| 20:15.16 | wols | Thanatermesis: go into #freenode, usually someone from them is online there |
| 20:16.03 | jel | ggeecko: or lots of nics, if that's what you're asking :) |
| 20:16.05 | wols | ggeecko: depends, but not necessarily. tho in practice you almost always will need a switch |
| 20:16.20 | petemc | eh? |
| 20:16.25 | falkon | seen this: 6760: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) <==<< I get that no matter how many times I put in the correct user and password |
| 20:16.26 | ggeecko | I have 3 nics.. |
| 20:17.10 | wols | GenNMX|Thrae: if you only connect 2 other PCs to that router, it will work yes |
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| 20:17.22 | wols | *grrr* |
| 20:17.36 | jel | ggeecko: what are you concerned about/trying to do? |
| 20:17.43 | wols | those nick complete heuristics really need an overhaul |
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| 20:17.49 | evilbulgarian | whats the best way to cache the security deb files for alot of workstations on a network ? |
| 20:18.02 | wols | evilbulgarian: debmirror I guess |
| 20:18.10 | beardy | apt-mirror? |
| 20:18.16 | Eulex | evilbulgarian, apt-cacher has always worked well for me |
| 20:18.17 | ggeecko | jel: connecting to other boxes to the internet |
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| 20:18.20 | petemc | !apt-proxy |
| 20:18.20 | dpkg | somebody said apt-proxy was a cool proxy for lots of Debian machines on a network together. |
| 20:18.22 | evilbulgarian | wols, beardy doesnt that mirror everything |
| 20:18.29 | beardy | That's the one. |
| 20:18.31 | ircdevil | image viewer recommandations apart from feh? |
| 20:18.34 | Thanatermesis | wols ok... informed :) |
| 20:18.42 | Eulex | ircdevil, qiv |
| 20:18.45 | evilbulgarian | Eulex: yeah im gonna look into that |
| 20:18.56 | petemc | apaches mod_proxy is popular too |
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| 20:19.30 | jel | ggeecko: OK, well, if they automatically do cross-over, you can just connect them. Otherwise, you'll need crossover cables or a hub, as pete said, or a switch as wols said |
| 20:19.34 | beardy | !tell root_ -about root |
| 20:19.41 | cahoot | ircdevil: kuickshow if you're into kde |
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| 20:20.16 | ircdevil | cahoot: no kde :o) |
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| 20:20.42 | tralala | ircdevil: gqview |
| 20:20.48 | ggeecko | jel: thx....what all do you do with your box |
| 20:21.20 | abrotman | wols: dirty packet sniffer! |
| 20:21.57 | jel | ggeecko: at home? depends on what my hobby project is that day :) |
| 20:22.08 | wols | "I did not sniff those packets" |
| 20:22.14 | GoAuLd | ircdevil, gthumb is the best |
| 20:22.40 | zinx | pornview please |
| 20:22.41 | falkon | seen this: 6760: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) <==<< I get that no matter how many times I put in the correct user and password |
| 20:22.42 | abrotman | ircdevil: eog |
| 20:22.55 | wols | ggeecko: good uses are: mailserver, webserver, mythbox, fileserver, PBX, etc |
| 20:22.57 | abrotman | falkon: DOS doesn't use passwords |
| 20:23.23 | falkon | seen this mounting samba share on a samba server: 6760: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) <==<< I get that no matter how many times I put in the correct user and password |
| 20:23.23 | wols | abrotman: you obviously have an inferior version of DOS |
| 20:23.26 | jel | wols: don't forget penguintv ;) |
| 20:23.35 | falkon | no docs on wtf that even means |
| 20:23.36 | ggeecko | jel: I am using a pIII machine as a email filter running snort with mysql |
| 20:23.39 | abrotman | falkon: did you ask #samba ? |
| 20:24.00 | falkon | well, suppose it wouldn't waste my time any worse |
| 20:24.21 | abrotman | or ask google ? |
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| 20:24.52 | falkon | google was no help |
| 20:24.56 | ggeecko | wols: is a mythbox easy to setup |
| 20:25.14 | wols | well.... depends on your knowledge. try knoppmyth first |
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| 20:26.43 | ircdevil | Eulex: qiv hrm. i dont like the lack of auto-fit image to screensize. and no zoom using the mouse either :o( |
| 20:27.17 | jel | ggeecko: yeah, I do run some general server stuff I guess... small mail server with spamassassin, local webserver for testing stuff/publishing files quickly, web proxy with tor and squid and privoxy. I'm going to get into ipsec and ip6 soon I guess. |
| 20:27.57 | beardy | ircdevil: Have a look at "feh". |
| 20:27.59 | evilbulgarian | hi, I have cacti ( 0.8.6h-2 ) from debian testing and whenever i try to add a data template that uses my data input method it just goes back to the data template list but i can not see it in the list and when i check the data_template database i see it! someone please help?? |
| 20:28.15 | Eulex | ircdevil, well, it's quick |
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| 20:28.57 | jel | ggeecko: oh, and irc proxy, as of today, which is why I'm here for the first time in ages :) |
| 20:29.01 | ircdevil | beardy: i am using feh, but i have grown tired of the fact that rotating images in feh looses EXIF info |
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| 20:29.07 | ircdevil | Eulex: it is. |
| 20:29.27 | beardy | ircdevil: Hmm, that is bad.. |
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| 20:29.44 | ircdevil | beardy: extremely so. |
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| 20:30.04 | lucky_luciano | DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
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| 20:30.09 | beardy | wtf.. |
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| 20:30.27 | jengelh | MIRC bug. |
| 20:30.27 | bbrazil | beardy: dcc exploit for netgear routers |
| 20:30.28 | hatake_kakashi | lucky_luciano is asking for trouble |
| 20:30.34 | beardy | bbrazil: yeah |
| 20:30.37 | ggeecko | jel: nice |
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| 20:30.43 | Eulex | !ops lucky_luciano is using a mirc bug to kick people |
| 20:30.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: lucky_luciano is using a mirc bug to kick people |
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| 20:31.02 | Eulex | or netgear router, whatever |
| 20:31.08 | jel | ggeecko: it helps to have a quiet laptop for a server, so you can tolerate it running long enough to try things on :) |
| 20:31.16 | jengelh | OTOH, that's people's fault not upgrading mirc (or using mirc in the first place ;) |
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| 20:31.37 | wols | jel: fanless box, except a 7V CPU fan sometimes and a quiet hdd (seagate barracuda) |
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| 20:31.40 | wols | no noise problem |
| 20:31.52 | cahoot | ircdevil: kuickshow still out of the question? ;) |
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| 20:32.15 | jel | wols: sounds good :) |
| 20:32.29 | jel | wols: heh, no pun intended :) |
| 20:32.32 | ggeecko | jel: what do proxies do?? |
| 20:32.45 | ecdemo | !dict proxy |
| 20:32.47 | dpkg | Dictionary 'proxy' (4 of 14): 3. The instrument by which a person is empowered to transact the affairs of another; a proxy. ;; 5. (Eccl.) See Procuration. [Obs.] ;; I have no man's proxy: I speak only for myself. --Burke. ;; 3. A writing by which one person authorizes another to vote in his stead, as in a corporation meeting.. |
| 20:32.57 | wols | jel: and cheaper than a notebook for serving |
| 20:33.17 | lostinfog | !! |
| 20:33.17 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
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| 20:33.58 | beardy | jengelh: The client used is irrelevant. It's a crappy router problem. |
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| 20:34.21 | ecdemo | so in that context a proxy is a right to act on behalf of another |
| 20:34.25 | gnufan | !dict lexicographer |
| 20:34.27 | dpkg | Dictionary 'lexicographer' (2): a compiler or writer of a dictionary; a student of the lexical component of language ;; Lexicographer \Lex`i*cog"ra*pher\ (-[i^]*k[o^]g"r[.a]*f[~e]r), n. [Gr. lexikogra`fos; lexiko`n dictionary + gra`fein to write: cf. F. lexicographe. See Lexicon.] The author or compiler of a lexicon or dictionary.. |
| 20:34.40 | gnufan | Damn, sometime he misses the best jokes ;) |
| 20:34.44 | jel | Yes, that... :) In other words, it sits between you and what you connect to. So, a web proxy gets the stuff you request off the web for you. It means you don't have to connect your computer to the web directly (you can firewall it) and it means that you can filter and/or cache everything at the proxy for adverts or viruses etc. For IRC, it stays connected, even when I close my irc client, and logs everything. It can also email me |
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| 20:35.30 | jel | wols: yeah, that's a better option if you're buying new; this was just a second-hand ibook I picked up. |
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| 20:35.57 | wols | jel: it was just some old hardware I had lying around :) |
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| 20:36.07 | jel | Ahh, cool :) |
| 20:36.47 | ggeecko | jel: i guess i will experiment with that now |
| 20:36.54 | mentor | .my? |
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| 20:37.05 | ecdemo | can gnome or kde or x in general (if applicable) use jack as audio connectors |
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| 20:38.11 | ecdemo | meaning, is there an underlying sound connection system that x clients try to establish for which jack can be used as the technology to connect |
| 20:38.12 | abrotman | Eulex: it's not a mIRC bug |
| 20:38.21 | don_the_bonbon | !ops jel is a asshat |
| 20:38.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: jel is a asshat |
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| 20:38.35 | jengelh | Umm.... |
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| 20:38.56 | ecdemo | byedon |
| 20:39.01 | jengelh | hm |
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| 20:39.04 | madona | how to make grep re match \n newlines characters |
| 20:39.05 | madona | ? |
| 20:39.06 | jengelh | they all have netgear? |
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| 20:39.11 | G-O-A-T-S-E | yes |
| 20:39.12 | bkudria | what is the package that parses the output of configure scripts and automaticallt apt-gets any dependencies it needs? |
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| 20:39.29 | Eulex | abrotman, yeah, remembered when bbrazil said so |
| 20:39.39 | ecdemo | madona: there's sgrep (structured grep), plus there's perl regexes |
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| 20:40.09 | madona | ecdemo: thanks |
| 20:40.26 | ecdemo | I have no idea if grep or egrep can be made to do that, maybe by quoting. dunno |
| 20:41.12 | The-Saint | any reason why iptables shouldn't work on 2.6.15-k7? |
| 20:41.14 | ecdemo | other than quoting, see the info or (less maintained) man pages |
| 20:41.32 | jel | The-Saint: nope |
| 20:42.07 | jel | The-Saint: apart from config problems :) Use shorewall :) |
| 20:42.10 | ecdemo | any reason you can think of? anything specific you're having problems with? any information you have about why you're having the problem? |
| 20:42.33 | falkon | wow, #samba has to be the most useless channel on freenode |
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| 20:42.42 | abrotman | we lost the title! |
| 20:42.50 | ecdemo | of what? |
| 20:42.54 | Eulex | haha |
| 20:42.56 | jengelh | ecdemo : grep -P is perl regex |
| 20:43.25 | ecdemo | oh, cool... so you can do sgrep-like things with it? |
| 20:43.28 | The-Saint | ou've obviously never been in #windows....it's where clever people go to find stupid people |
| 20:43.31 | Blissex | abrotman: we keeping the ''talk down to n00bs'' one? ;-) |
| 20:43.37 | ircdevil | beardy: the feh EXIF bug has been fixed in feh-1.3.4 |
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| 20:44.07 | cubiq | falkon: Use the samba mailing list instead...there are too many people asking questions in samba due to its widespread use :) |
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| 20:44.25 | goron | I used the Linux version for doing my taxes ... it doesn't work.. it's just a dumbed down version of the Windows versions with lots of bugs. It's plain garbage. I don't understand why they released it in the first place. |
| 20:44.50 | abrotman | Blissex: you've seen some of the "newbs" .. |
| 20:44.59 | abrotman | ircdevil: eog! |
| 20:45.01 | jel | goron: what is? |
| 20:45.14 | ecdemo | The-Saint, any reason you can think of? anything specific you're having problems |
| 20:45.14 | ecdemo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.22 | goron | jel: A program which you can download on belastingdienst.nl |
| 20:45.22 | Blissex | abrotman: I know I know :-) |
| 20:45.32 | ecdemo | bitchx doesn't do that well... |
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| 20:45.43 | jel | goron: oh, ok. |
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| 20:45.47 | wols | ecdemo: bitchx does nothing well. QED |
| 20:45.56 | abrotman | mentor: glad to see you caught up :) |
| 20:46.05 | goron | jel: They basically use me as tester. |
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| 20:46.33 | jel | goron: what does the windows version do? |
| 20:46.36 | goron | jel: They use GTK 1.2 as base. Printing dialogs which also don't work. Help files which crash. |
| 20:46.47 | goron | jel: How do you mean? |
| 20:46.49 | jel | goron: heh, sounds amusing. |
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| 20:47.02 | goron | jel: The Windows version is pretty slick |
| 20:47.02 | ircdevil | abrotman: feh is cool. |
| 20:47.05 | mentor | K-line wins really |
| 20:47.13 | abrotman | no kidding |
| 20:47.17 | goron | jel: Although there are GUI errors in it. (usability errors) |
| 20:47.25 | The-Saint | ah, fixed it...i didn't hav MASQUERADE aparently |
| 20:47.32 | The-Saint | have* |
| 20:47.40 | jel | goron: I see. |
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| 20:47.57 | goron | jel: It also gives Linux a bad name. My parents see me struggle, while it's not Linux fault. |
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| 20:49.02 | jel | goron: yeah, it's catch-22 sometimes. |
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| 20:49.18 | goron | jel: Basically the idea is that the government needs to switch to open documents and not force people to Windows... and they are behind on schedule. |
| 20:49.20 | maxxle | I need 2 modules to be loaded automatically at system-startup (debian/sarge). I know the modules-Name. In which file do I make an entry for the modules? |
| 20:49.31 | asg | maxxle: /etc/modules |
| 20:49.36 | ecdemo | try running modconf |
| 20:49.49 | goron | jel: I think it's impossible todo your taxes in the usual way with this linux client. |
| 20:49.59 | maxxle | asg: Ah... that's an easy one - thx |
| 20:50.09 | asg | maxxle: you're welcome |
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| 20:50.19 | goron | jel: And for something as important as your taxes you need confidence in the program. There is none. |
| 20:50.34 | ggeecko | is there a way I can stop the insmod errors from showing during boot |
| 20:50.50 | ecdemo | if your taxes are in any way complex, you may need a tax acct and lawyer |
| 20:50.58 | jel | goron: and you're the linux tester? Well, try to be optimistic and constructive, or they'll give up altogether :) |
| 20:51.12 | goron | jel: No, I am just a "user". |
| 20:51.19 | goron | jel: Although I can make a better client. |
| 20:51.23 | jel | goron: ahh, ok, I see. |
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| 20:51.42 | jel | goron: well if the formats are open, you should do that. |
| 20:51.43 | goron | ecdemo: They are not that complex. |
| 20:51.54 | goron | jel: I asked someone whether they are. |
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| 20:52.00 | k-man | when is apache2.2 likely to make it to testing? |
| 20:52.05 | goron | jel: He didn't know whether they were free. |
| 20:52.10 | goron | jel: As in costs. |
| 20:52.20 | goron | jel: They should, but I don't think they are. |
| 20:52.58 | jel | goron: to be really free, they should be published openly, and open to public review/revision |
| 20:53.00 | ecdemo | like, if you have portfolio income or passive income, you might need either someone or something that knows how to handle that |
| 20:53.11 | jel | goron: ie, not controlled by one company |
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| 20:53.48 | ggeecko | is there a way I can stop the insmod errors from showing during boot |
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| 20:54.07 | asg | ggeecko: they don't hurt anything. Use bootsplash if it bothers you that much |
| 20:54.13 | ecdemo | why is that important? |
| 20:54.22 | jel | ggeecko: try putting dmesg -n 1 early in the startup scripts, before modules are loaded? I'm not sure. |
| 20:54.36 | ggeecko | ok |
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| 20:55.14 | jel | ggeecko: if you edit /etc/sysctl.conf (you might need to install a package), it has an option for it too; that might happen sooner in the boot process. |
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| 20:57.55 | goron | jel: I agree. |
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| 20:58.10 | goron | jel: I mean those people are paid by us. |
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| 20:58.36 | abrotman | k-man: 2-10 days after it gets in unstable .. depending on RC bugs |
| 20:58.53 | goron | jel: Ideally it should be an open-source project with paid developers. |
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| 20:59.28 | k-man | abortman, oh thanks, any idea how long is it likely to be before it gets into unstable? |
| 20:59.32 | goron | jel: Someone hacking the servers wouldn't be really cool in such a system :) |
| 21:00.01 | abrotman | oh crap .. i lost that highlight |
| 21:00.04 | abrotman | k-man: not a clue |
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| 21:02.39 | j33 | i installed debian through one of the debian-installer (etch) and after the reboot, it won't startup properly and says ALERT! /dev/sdb2 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! any ideas on what the issue could be? |
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| 21:03.26 | wols | j33: run fdisk -l and look what names your partitions have |
| 21:03.31 | Blissex | j33: it is trying to mount a filesystem on a non existing partition. |
| 21:03.40 | mortal__ | does the -smp kernel image work on non-smp systems too? |
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| 21:03.53 | Blissex | j33: for various reason instead of ignoring the error, most distros stop the boot. |
| 21:04.09 | Blissex | mortal__: yes, but you don't get the speed of 2 CPUs... |
| 21:04.10 | wols | mortal__: yes, but it will be slower |
| 21:04.21 | erudified | Hey, anyone ever have an LCD shit the bed on them when doing crtl+alt+numpad[+|-] to change resolution? |
| 21:04.22 | j33 | right but this is after the initial install reboot |
| 21:04.32 | j33 | the /dev/sd devices aren't in /dev and the root partition isn't mounting |
| 21:04.43 | erudified | whenever I startx now the screen is completely fubar; I'm not an LCD user, didn't realize things would fuck up |
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| 21:06.12 | _Sam-- | how can i fix this: zlib1g-dev: Depends: zlib1g (= 1:1.2.2-4) but 1:1.2.2-4.sarge.2 is to be installed |
| 21:06.23 | abrotman | _Sam--: did you run apt-get update frist ? |
| 21:06.25 | abrotman | first even |
| 21:06.30 | _Sam-- | ya, im on amd64... |
| 21:06.34 | _Sam-- | and i think that has something to do with it |
| 21:06.45 | _Sam-- | but all my packages <not all> but most complain similarly |
| 21:06.58 | abrotman | are you on pure64 or 32bit ? |
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| 21:07.38 | _Sam-- | im not sure i understand the question....i started with a generic x86_64 install yesterday...then made my kernel for SMP & Raid |
| 21:08.04 | _Sam-- | but im on dual opterons with a kernel compiled for them |
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| 21:09.16 | _Sam-- | its been holding me back from using a lot of deb packages...and having to compile way too many things. |
| 21:09.26 | _Sam-- | so if you can think of what i need , please let me know |
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| 21:10.05 | abrotman | _Sam--: paste your sources somewhere |
| 21:10.06 | abrotman | !paste |
| 21:10.07 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 21:10.11 | _Sam-- | sure |
| 21:10.33 | _Sam-- | its only 4 lines can i just paste here... |
| 21:10.37 | _Sam-- | not that active here right this sec |
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| 21:10.43 | wols | No you can't |
| 21:10.53 | abrotman | _Sam--: no you can't |
| 21:11.02 | edrin | how can i make a user's home directory not readable for other users? |
| 21:11.05 | _Sam-- | i dont know what this IRC has come to...a bunch of pastebin nazis...sec. |
| 21:11.09 | asg | edrin: man chmod |
| 21:11.19 | abrotman | drink more! |
| 21:11.20 | _Sam-- | abrotman : http://sam.pastebin.com/633270 |
| 21:11.23 | The-Saint | dude, it's not rocket surgery... "/join #flood" then paste there |
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| 21:11.27 | asg | abrotman: with pleasure |
| 21:11.35 | _Sam-- | its 4 lines...whats the big deal..but no worries. |
| 21:11.39 | abrotman | _Sam--: you need the security line for amd64 |
| 21:11.42 | wols | _Sam--: go ahead then. 4 lines and you get kicked, you will annoy all regulars (tho you just annoyed them already, so it doesn't matter) |
| 21:11.50 | _Sam-- | i had it commented out |
| 21:11.57 | edrin | asg: do I have to do it recursiv |
| 21:11.58 | edrin | ? |
| 21:11.58 | abrotman | you had what commented out ? |
| 21:12.03 | _Sam-- | the security line |
| 21:12.09 | _Sam-- | #deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 21:12.11 | abrotman | you kind of need it |
| 21:12.24 | asg | edrin: no, chmod 700 /home/foo will do |
| 21:12.35 | _Sam-- | will see if it helps, thanks. |
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| 21:13.23 | _Sam-- | THANK YOU. |
| 21:14.23 | ecdemo | then if you're on stable or (maybe) testing, you get security updates |
| 21:15.02 | goron | How interesting.. it seems there are somewhat free specs.. you still need to send them a letter though, you can't "just download them". |
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| 21:16.23 | erudified | are there any console text editors that support html highlighting? hahaha |
| 21:16.29 | erudified | I can't get into X, this is pretty lame |
| 21:16.32 | asg | erudified: vim |
| 21:16.49 | ecdemo | xemacs too |
| 21:16.50 | erudified | X -configure segfaults from libc6-686 |
| 21:16.56 | edrin | asg: is there a webpage were all these numbers and their meanings are listed? like 700 and so on? |
| 21:17.05 | asg | edrin: /msg dpkg permissions |
| 21:17.24 | ecdemo | info fileutils, look for file permissions |
| 21:17.45 | ecdemo | take a beginning intro to unix course |
| 21:17.54 | ecdemo | you'll get that on the first day |
| 21:18.04 | _Sam-- | thanks again...i should have come here hours ago. |
| 21:18.05 | maxxle | I've written a Startup-Skript and Linked it to /etc/rcS.d. There it does NOT get executed during startup. If I link it to /etc/rc2.d everything works fine. I thought, all scripts in rcS.d get executed during startup? |
| 21:18.12 | _Sam-- | i only wasted 3 or so |
| 21:18.35 | erudified | How accurate is read-edid? |
| 21:19.01 | _Sam-- | would be nice if the debian installer supported adaptec host raid |
| 21:19.02 | ecdemo | 94.95789347583465834y65873465873465786% |
| 21:19.30 | abrotman | _Sam--: it does .. of course .. depends on the controller i suppose |
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| 21:19.35 | _Sam-- | i had to install on a non-raided setup, make a new kernel, create the hardware raid array, then boot to the new kernel..was a long process |
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| 21:19.44 | _Sam-- | adaptec 7902w |
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| 21:20.05 | ecdemo | not a bad process to learn, btw |
| 21:20.09 | _Sam-- | especially because i created the raid array before using raid installer |
| 21:20.24 | _Sam-- | to create the array took an hour or so...only to realize the debian installer didndt see the drives |
| 21:20.27 | go1dfish | apache2 on my sarge system is one hour off from the system time |
| 21:20.48 | edrin | asg: ok, this shows how to calculate it, but isn't there a list where i can simply look it up? |
| 21:21.02 | ecdemo | go1dfish: oh |
| 21:21.05 | go1dfish | if I restart apache2, the time starts off being right again |
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| 21:21.12 | go1dfish | but eventually goes back to being exactly one hour late |
| 21:21.44 | asg | edrin: not that I'm aware of. It's pretty simple though (just remember that its in octal or use the GNU extended syntax) |
| 21:21.50 | go1dfish | localtime is pointing at /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern |
| 21:22.02 | go1dfish | /etc/timezone is US/Eastern |
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| 21:22.19 | go1dfish | /etc/default/rcS has UTC=no |
| 21:22.35 | ecdemo | how did you find out "the system time" |
| 21:22.45 | go1dfish | date |
| 21:23.02 | ecdemo | is date always accurate for you? |
| 21:23.07 | go1dfish | yes |
| 21:23.18 | ecdemo | ok, so this looks like a timezone issue |
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| 21:23.39 | go1dfish | yeah, thats what I thought, but im stumped at this point |
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| 21:24.05 | go1dfish | date returns: Fri Mar 31 16:23:45 EST 2006 |
| 21:24.10 | suetekhd | could anyone help, I am experiencing end of disk space on various parts of debian system like home, var, usr how can I shrink each of these? or what should I do? |
| 21:24.10 | ecdemo | well, what do you mean when you say apache2 time is off? how do you know? |
| 21:24.24 | go1dfish | an apache2 404 page is saying: Fri Mar 31 15:23:42 2006 |
| 21:24.32 | asg | suetekhd: try 'apt-get clean' ; and remove cruft from your /home |
| 21:24.40 | go1dfish | also any dates I get under mod_python are also off |
| 21:24.44 | go1dfish | by one hour |
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| 21:24.59 | ecdemo | ok, and you're running the browser from what? |
| 21:25.00 | asg | go1dfish: sounds like an EDT vs EST issue |
| 21:25.07 | go1dfish | immediately after restarting apache, the dates match |
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| 21:25.10 | suetekhd | asg anyway I want more space everywhere, so I am to delete everywhing on disk and reinstall |
| 21:25.17 | go1dfish | but after a few minutes they start diverging again |
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| 21:25.25 | asg | suetekhd: or add more disks and symlink parts to partitions on the new disks |
| 21:25.31 | go1dfish | ecdemo: another machine on a separate network |
| 21:25.47 | go1dfish | set to EST as well |
| 21:26.11 | go1dfish | asg: how do I go about checking to see if that is the case |
| 21:26.14 | ecdemo | you might want to check the request headers |
| 21:26.27 | asg | go1dfish: date(1) will tell you if you are EST or EDT |
| 21:26.33 | asg | go1dfish: also, are you running apache in a chroot? |
| 21:26.42 | igor_ | Hi all, im running both X.org and XFree (testing and stable) with xinerama, both of them give an error when running xscreensaver-command -lock and closes xscreensaver. |
| 21:26.52 | go1dfish | asg: no apache is not running in a chroot |
| 21:27.20 | [Thom] | asg: what does the (1) syntax of date(1) represent? |
| 21:27.21 | go1dfish | asg: not sure what you mean by the (1) |
| 21:27.28 | asg | [Thom]: the section of the manual |
| 21:27.31 | go1dfish | but date shows EST |
| 21:27.33 | asg | [Thom]: man 1 foo, man 5 foo |
| 21:27.58 | asg | [Thom]: generally, man foo defaults to (1) but that's system dependant. |
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| 21:28.09 | [Thom] | oh sweet. |
| 21:28.12 | [Thom] | did not know that |
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| 21:28.41 | asg | [Thom]: useful for pointing out which man page you want if there are ones in different sections: |
| 21:28.44 | asg | asg@rob:~$ apropos date | grep ^date |
| 21:28.45 | go1dfish | date -u is returning: Fri Mar 31 21:28:18 UTC 2006 |
| 21:28.46 | asg | date (1) - print or set the system date and time |
| 21:28.49 | asg | date (1fun) - get and print a date |
| 21:28.58 | go1dfish | which I believe is correct? |
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| 21:29.23 | asg | go1dfish: it is, according to my EST |
| 21:30.05 | go1dfish | any ideas what might be happening? |
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| 21:30.51 | amee2k | i get "./uplink: symbol lookup error: ./uplink: undefined symbol: __glutRoot" when i try to start uplink. freeglut3 and libglut3 are installed. what am i missing? |
| 21:30.51 | asg | go1dfish: no, that's rather odd. what does hwclock print? |
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| 21:31.21 | go1dfish | asg: not sure what you mean by hwclock |
| 21:31.29 | asg | go1dfish: sorry, /sbin/hwclock |
| 21:31.30 | go1dfish | thnm |
| 21:31.31 | go1dfish | got ya |
| 21:31.33 | go1dfish | nm* |
| 21:31.36 | maxxle | Anybody a clue, how a HDD is encrypted if you enable the option in the bios? |
| 21:31.45 | [Thom] | asg: Can you think of a reason why I wouldn't be able ssh into my system, but can from another terminal on the same system? |
| 21:31.46 | go1dfish | Fri 31 Mar 2006 04:27:56 PM EST -0.179558 seconds |
| 21:31.53 | kraypius | how do I go about supporting asp on my deb server? |
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| 21:32.17 | kraypius | i dont see it in the package manager |
| 21:32.23 | GoAuLd | [thom] a router without NAT configured |
| 21:32.24 | asg | [Thom]: are you using keys or just a password? |
| 21:32.31 | deadcat | whats the fastest way to get a public_html dir from a remote server via ftp? wget or use ftp? |
| 21:32.53 | [Thom] | asg just a password... |
| 21:32.57 | asg | deadcat: scp -r foo . |
| 21:33.01 | amee2k | deadcat: lftp, enter 'help mirror' |
| 21:33.05 | deadcat | asg: i only have ftp access |
| 21:33.09 | deadcat | amee2k: thanks |
| 21:33.11 | go1dfish | should I set the hw clock to utc and try it that way? |
| 21:33.26 | deadcat | amee2k: dont have lftp. |
| 21:33.41 | r_marvin | wget, then |
| 21:33.42 | deadcat | what about using wget with username passwd? |
| 21:34.02 | amee2k | deadcat: can you install it? otherwise wget has a recursive option |
| 21:34.04 | asg | [Thom]: try /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 21:34.11 | deadcat | amee2k: webhosting |
| 21:34.15 | [Thom] | asg what is dpkg ? |
| 21:34.21 | amee2k | :/ |
| 21:34.27 | asg | [Thom]: the #debian bot |
| 21:34.43 | homekneet | asg - isn't the answer "half mad" ? |
| 21:35.01 | asg | homekneet: no, that's apt. apt has been crazy for years now ;) |
| 21:35.16 | amee2k | wget should basically be "wget -r <user>:<passwd>@<host>/<path>" |
| 21:35.17 | homekneet | I thought apt was mad - dpkg only half so? ;) |
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| 21:35.43 | deadcat | amee2k: thanks |
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| 21:36.13 | amee2k | but that will leave the password in your bash command history |
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| 21:36.52 | amee2k | log out, log back in, then remove .bash_history should clear it |
| 21:36.53 | deadcat | amee2k: thats ok. we switching hosting company anyway. but it say unsupported scheme |
| 21:37.13 | kraypius | what host you goin with? |
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| 21:37.26 | amee2k | ah, sorry "wget -r ftp://<user>:<passwd>@<host>/<path>" |
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| 21:37.32 | deadcat | ah |
| 21:37.35 | amee2k | wget needs a protocol identifier |
| 21:37.42 | deadcat | amee2k: thanks (= |
| 21:37.59 | amee2k | since it supports other protocols besides ftp |
| 21:38.02 | deadcat | amee2k: the crappy hosting place allows me 4hour to pick up my shit. because we are switching to a better one (= |
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| 21:38.22 | amee2k | lol |
| 21:38.27 | kraypius | you are colocating your own boxes? |
| 21:39.27 | deadcat | kraypius: no. from one hosting to another. |
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| 21:39.37 | amee2k | i get "./uplink: symbol lookup error: ./uplink: undefined symbol: __glutRoot" when i try to start uplink. freeglut3 and libglut3 are installed. what am i missing? |
| 21:39.43 | xstation | hello |
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| 21:39.57 | kraypius | can i message you about hosting? im always looking for good deals |
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| 21:41.19 | cricket | where is the grub config file |
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| 21:41.31 | xstation | posted this on 27 but no one replies any help please http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=4330 |
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| 21:41.38 | amee2k | cricket: iirc /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 21:41.47 | go1dfish | ecdemo: what did you want me to look for in the request headers? |
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| 21:42.57 | go1dfish | hmm think I found something significant |
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| 21:43.08 | go1dfish | in the response headers, the date is correct, in GMT |
| 21:43.15 | go1dfish | Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:42:32 GMT |
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| 21:43.26 | evilbulgarian | hi, i have a DSL PPPoE connection and i get alot of timeouts in which the pppd daemon tries to reconnect but fails how can i increase these tries to infinite so its always trying? |
| 21:43.45 | ecdemo | the request headers will probably show timezone |
| 21:43.50 | ecdemo | here, I got an idea |
| 21:43.50 | go1dfish | even though the error message is off by an error, so somehow apache is picking up on the wrong timezone |
| 21:44.00 | go1dfish | not seeing anything about timezone in the headers |
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| 21:44.05 | nekostar | ok. |
| 21:44.12 | nekostar | how can i get basic info out of my system? |
| 21:44.19 | nekostar | cpu / ram type / etc ?? |
| 21:44.19 | ecdemo | but you want the request headers, that is, those that go -to- the server |
| 21:44.30 | go1dfish | ecdemo: yeah im looking at those |
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| 21:44.37 | go1dfish | as generated by firefox using livehttpheaders extension |
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| 21:45.07 | go1dfish | I see GET, Host, User-Agent, Accept, Accept-Language, Accept-Encoding, Accept-Charset, Keep-Alive, and Connection |
| 21:45.19 | go1dfish | it does this on multiple browsers on different machines owned by different people |
| 21:45.24 | ecdemo | those look like it |
| 21:46.03 | ecdemo | so the tz isn't coming in on them? |
| 21:46.05 | go1dfish | ecdemo: which header should I be looking at? |
| 21:46.06 | go1dfish | no |
| 21:46.21 | jair | guys i need some help in the configuration of a simple virtual host configuration |
| 21:46.28 | fedya_ | i installed exim,b ut i can't connect to it from a remote computer, i'm guessing that's why it wont receive any mail |
| 21:46.38 | ecdemo | I was figuring the tz would be there... was wrong I guess |
| 21:46.38 | go1dfish | and this affects timestamps generated in mod_python scripts as well |
| 21:46.48 | abrotman | fedya_: did you configure it to accept mail ? |
| 21:46.59 | fedya_ | in netstat it says that it's listening on 127.0.0.1:25 |
| 21:47.03 | go1dfish | it's got to be something serverside |
| 21:47.13 | fedya_ | not specifically, thats' why i'm asking, i set it as an internet server |
| 21:47.17 | abrotman | !drec |
| 21:47.17 | dpkg | [drec] dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config # Run it as root! |
| 21:47.30 | ecdemo | wait, did you say the server returns the right UTC time? |
| 21:47.41 | go1dfish | yes, in the Date response header |
| 21:47.48 | go1dfish | Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:42:32 GMT |
| 21:47.49 | gnufan | jair: what is the problem? Apache, Apache2? |
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| 21:48.23 | ecdemo | so the server actually has the correct time |
| 21:48.26 | go1dfish | and directly after restarting apache, the error messages are also the correct localtime |
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| 21:48.31 | jair | gnufan, apache 1.3.33 |
| 21:48.36 | cricket | im getting a permission denied error trying to make a dir in my home directory |
| 21:48.39 | go1dfish | but after a few minutes, they start being 1 hour behind |
| 21:48.41 | jair | gnufan, ok can I pm you? |
| 21:48.54 | jair | gnufan, so we do not need to flood the channel |
| 21:48.57 | ecdemo | nothing in the log? |
| 21:49.05 | Entertaim | can someone tell me wuts the smart way to install debian without burining 20 discs? |
| 21:49.12 | cricket | network |
| 21:49.17 | cricket | burn one disc |
| 21:49.17 | gnufan | jair: no -- you can paste it if need be. Apache2 is easier here ;) |
| 21:49.19 | cricket | boot it |
| 21:49.21 | cricket | netowkr install |
| 21:49.30 | fedya_ | shoudl the system mail name be mail.xx.com or xx.com? |
| 21:49.33 | jair | gnufan, I am using apache 1.3.33 |
| 21:49.34 | go1dfish | ecdemo: not that I see, but this problem affects the log timestamps as well |
| 21:49.41 | jair | gnufan, can you help me with that? |
| 21:49.47 | Entertaim | cricket: is it this? http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 21:49.52 | cricket | yes |
| 21:49.57 | gnufan | jair: understood -- but why are you using 1.3? |
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| 21:50.01 | Entertaim | cricket: after I install, wut do I do? |
| 21:50.09 | cricket | you burn the cd |
| 21:50.11 | cricket | boot it |
| 21:50.16 | cubiq | Entertaim: sudo rm -rf /* |
| 21:50.19 | cricket | then it installs the system by downloading it over the internet |
| 21:50.23 | Entertaim | criket: does it show an option to "network install" ? |
| 21:50.24 | Entertaim | oh ok |
| 21:50.24 | cricket | and after that, it sets it up |
| 21:50.28 | cubiq | Entertaim: Just kidding |
| 21:50.30 | cricket | yes |
| 21:50.34 | cricket | there is anetowrk installoption |
| 21:50.35 | Entertaim | ok, thanks |
| 21:50.36 | cricket | choose ftp |
| 21:50.43 | cricket | its pretty straightforward |
| 21:50.44 | ecdemo | gnufan: goldfish is having a problem where error pages and log times go an hour off a few mins after apache2 server restart (and for the first few mins, has the correct time) |
| 21:50.45 | cubiq | Entertaim: Do you use SATA disks? |
| 21:50.59 | Entertaim | I'm not that far yet, just downloading the image file right now |
| 21:51.12 | Entertaim | do you know any useful book? for a total noob? I know NOTHING about linux... |
| 21:51.13 | go1dfish | gnufan: also, the GMT times returned in the response headers are right |
| 21:51.18 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 21:51.18 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about "docs", "unix lessons", "reference", "fundamentals", "newbiedoc", "refcard", "faq". (e.g. type /msg dpkg reference in your irc client) |
| 21:51.25 | Covener | ecdemo: some cgi changing the locale? |
| 21:51.31 | Le_Vert-Notebook | hey people |
| 21:51.31 | jair | gnufan, because I am using debian ssarge stable 3.1 |
| 21:51.39 | Le_Vert-Notebook | how can i update an ITP |
| 21:51.40 | ecdemo | goldfish: anything in the log show the tz? |
| 21:51.45 | Le_Vert-Notebook | from debian wnpp ? |
| 21:51.47 | jair | gnufan, and I am not to familiar with apache 2 |
| 21:51.53 | go1dfish | ecdemo: not that im seeing |
| 21:52.03 | cubiq | Entertaim: I would recommend the etch install..better support for newer hardware |
| 21:52.03 | cubiq | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 21:52.04 | go1dfish | the apache logs that is |
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| 21:52.21 | Entertaim | I have a old one |
| 21:52.30 | abrotman | Le_Vert-Notebook: append it |
| 21:52.37 | Le_Vert-Notebook | how ? |
| 21:52.43 | Le_Vert-Notebook | i read http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ |
| 21:52.45 | abrotman | send to bug#@bugs.debian.org |
| 21:53.30 | abrotman | which ITP ? |
| 21:53.30 | ecdemo | Covener: for the logs too? |
| 21:53.30 | Le_Vert-Notebook | but it doesn't explain how to update an ITP |
| 21:53.31 | abrotman | ITP for what? |
| 21:53.31 | Le_Vert-Notebook | i have some new submission for bmp-plugin |
| 21:53.31 | Covener | ecdemo: if the process is writing to the logs, sure |
| 21:53.31 | Entertaim | cubiq: do u know any good book or tutorial for linux and debian? |
| 21:53.31 | Le_Vert-Notebook | bmp-musepack |
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| 21:53.31 | Le_Vert-Notebook | sorry |
| 21:53.31 | Covener | ecdemo: if this is apache, add %{TZ}e to your customlog statement |
| 21:53.31 | Le_Vert-Notebook | an updated unofficial package |
| 21:53.34 | Le_Vert-Notebook | a sponsors should upload it soon |
| 21:53.43 | ecdemo | goldfish: you will note it's very close to the time the clocks get rolled forward |
| 21:53.46 | Covener | ecdemo: or any other voodoo that effects timezone stuff |
| 21:53.53 | abrotman | Le_Vert-Notebook: send to 333085@bugs.debian.org |
| 21:53.58 | Le_Vert-Notebook | is there anyway to do this throught reportbug ? |
| 21:54.00 | jair | gnufan, you will help me then? |
| 21:54.28 | jair | gnufan, I configure the eth0 of my server to received more than one connection: eth0:0 eth0:1 etc...so should I go with name base or ip base??? |
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| 21:54.39 | go1dfish | ecdemo: what is? |
| 21:54.42 | cubiq | Entertaim: Newbie books? |
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| 21:55.02 | ecdemo | the current time |
| 21:55.15 | abrotman | Le_Vert-Notebook: man reportbug ? |
| 21:55.26 | Le_Vert-Notebook | already looked ;D |
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| 21:55.41 | tech13 | having a weird problem installing linux on a Intel P2-233Mhz machine. Booted CD1 3.1r1. tried different combos and it fails after detect and mount cd rom. finally got an error message to show (using boot method: "linux", was using "linux26") the error: "/cdrom/dists//Release: no such file or directory" any advice? |
| 21:55.48 | gnufan | go1dfish: permissions on the timezone stuff maybe?! Is time right for other non-root users? |
| 21:56.10 | go1dfish | I looked in the log and didn't notice any requests that would trigger cgi's around the time it changes times |
| 21:56.23 | go1dfish | gnufan: yes, all of this is as non root users |
| 21:57.02 | tech13 | anna generates the error. |
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| 21:57.38 | gnufan | jair: unless you need HTTPS there is no reason to use IP based virtual hosts |
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| 21:57.57 | jair | gnufan, ok so then i should use the name base correct :) |
| 21:58.16 | gnufan | jair: the eth0:1 is a result of using "ifconfig" instead of "ip" command for setting up addresses. ifconfig should die |
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| 21:58.50 | Covener | jair: http/1.0 clients might benefit from ip-based vhosts |
| 21:58.55 | gnufan | jair: sounds like a plan |
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| 21:59.28 | jair | gnufan, ok so then here is what I have right now "not configured yet" http://pastebin.com/633355 |
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| 22:00.15 | ecdemo | goldfish: is there a default timezone setting? or default locale? |
| 22:00.18 | The-Saint | what's the command to configure alsa? alsaconf doesn't work :( |
| 22:00.28 | go1dfish | ecdemo: where would I find that |
| 22:00.37 | ecdemo | in the apache2 config? |
| 22:00.45 | go1dfish | didnt see any |
| 22:00.46 | ecdemo | I'm guessing here |
| 22:01.04 | Covener | ecdemo: no, closest would be completely free-form bin/envvars under apahce install dir |
| 22:01.24 | ecdemo | ok, is there any way you could print out the environment of that process |
| 22:01.46 | Covener | ecdemo: as I said earlier, add %{TZ}e to CustomLog statemement for your access log |
| 22:01.48 | go1dfish | im not sure |
| 22:02.01 | go1dfish | Covener: CustomLog /var/log/apache2/access.log combined |
| 22:02.05 | ecdemo | there ya go... help him do that :) |
| 22:02.05 | go1dfish | after combined? |
| 22:02.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: hey i found something |
| 22:02.15 | Covener | go1dfish: Sorry, LogFormat |
| 22:02.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: you want to come to switzerland? |
| 22:02.21 | abrotman | for what? |
| 22:02.23 | gnufan | jair looks promising -- http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/vhosts/name-based.html you need an appropriate "NameVirtualHost" statement as on the link |
| 22:02.25 | Covener | go1dfish: Or check out the environ entry in /proc |
| 22:02.26 | tarzeau | abrotman: you'd love http://www.pussypower.ch/ |
| 22:02.31 | jair | gnufan, give me a minute, I am trying to make an example here. |
| 22:02.43 | ecdemo | tarzeau: be sure to wipe it off your shoes before going insideQ! |
| 22:02.45 | jair | gnufan, ok I am reading that now |
| 22:02.54 | tarzeau | ecdemo: huh? |
| 22:03.02 | ecdemo | you found something! |
| 22:03.28 | tarzeau | damn but 29. april is also m-budget party |
| 22:03.40 | go1dfish | Covener: when I added %{TZ}e to LogFormat... |
| 22:03.44 | go1dfish | all I got was a - there |
| 22:04.04 | gnufan | jair: I'd go with the "*" if you don't have HTTPS on any virtual hosts -- simpler in both NameVirtualHost and Virtualhost directives |
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| 22:04.40 | jair | gnufan, ok I will send you the example as soon as I finish it |
| 22:04.58 | go1dfish | Covener: looking in environ for the apache2 processes says nothing about timezone |
| 22:05.10 | gnufan | jair: does apache1.3 have "apachectl configtest" ? ;) |
| 22:05.52 | Mitchi | cubiq, PM please |
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| 22:06.27 | jair | gnufan, I do not know |
| 22:06.34 | jair | gnufan, but I will check that too. |
| 22:07.57 | uwe | um, i dont have mysql_config command in debian, does anyone know what package provides it, its not included in mysql server |
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| 22:08.13 | bbrazil | uwe: try apt-file |
| 22:09.00 | acolwell_ | Has anyone here encountered segfaults in dpkg-preconfigure after a fresh AMD64 Debian(Etch) install? |
| 22:09.07 | sphenxes | I would like to download all updates from http://suse.inode.at/ using rsync. should it be rsync://suse.inode.at/ /home/ |
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| 22:09.53 | cluck | hello all |
| 22:10.07 | uwe | Thanks bbrazil , been looking for something similar for a while, didnt think apt has it :) |
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| 22:11.11 | grendelson | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.21 | grendelson | but I cant use adduser to add a user to ldap |
| 22:11.25 | grendelson | the user is in passwd. |
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| 22:11.36 | grendelson | and I chose to bind root to admin when prompted.... |
| 22:11.47 | grendelson | Do I not use adduser to addusers to ldap? |
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| 22:13.21 | uwe | bbrazil, um, would the synatax be apt-file search mysql_config ? |
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| 22:13.42 | bbrazil | uwe: yes |
| 22:13.43 | gnufan | grendelson: not something I do, ldap, but I assume you'd use some sort of ldap management tool. |
| 22:13.55 | uwe | no luck :S |
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| 22:14.13 | gnufan | grendelson: some of the ISP management packages put a nice front end on LDAP user management |
| 22:14.26 | grendelson | gnufan: the dpkg-configure portion prompted me to add the dn of the admin user so that I could add users as root - but not sure if that implied I could use adduser as normal...Hmmm |
| 22:14.38 | gnufan | grendelson: why are you using LDAP as the backend? |
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| 22:15.34 | grendelson | gnufan: have to get better at LDAP - managing a DB with 10s of 1000s of records - so figured I'd practice on my own (where I cant hurt much) |
| 22:15.47 | gnufan | grendelson: I assume that means that the an LDAP user with the same password as root, can add users to the ldap database. |
| 22:16.26 | grendelson | gnufan: it owrks just fine for existing users - ie I can login with ldap (with users I've pulled fomr passwd) |
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| 22:16.31 | Celeste | how can I make KDE _not_ open a window automatically when I plug in a USB Stick? |
| 22:16.35 | gnufan | grendelson: but that is about write permission to the database (at a guess). I last used openldap for my address book ;) |
| 22:16.41 | foo | If I've edited /etc/exports.. I just need to restart nfs-common, right? Hmm. |
| 22:16.50 | grendelson | gnufan: Oh I assumed if I was root on system and tried to access ldap - it would bind as ldap admin |
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| 22:19.06 | gnufan | foo you can as exports with exportfs I believe -- no need to restart the service |
| 22:19.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: you need a wife |
| 22:19.19 | foo | gnufan: ah, thanks |
| 22:20.35 | nekostar | abrotman, hopefully u can help :/ |
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| 22:20.39 | abrotman | i can? |
| 22:20.45 | nekostar | hopefully :/ |
| 22:20.50 | nvz | abrotman: maybe you need a wife.. you say that to everyone |
| 22:20.52 | abrotman | with what? |
| 22:20.53 | nekostar | google has not served me well on this one... |
| 22:21.02 | abrotman | nvz: you're the one with all the hot friends |
| 22:21.08 | nvz | heh |
| 22:21.08 | tarzeau | abrotman: huh? |
| 22:21.17 | nekostar | my remote server is in los angeles... and the date is set to Sat Apr 1 06:20:54 PST 2006 |
| 22:21.19 | nvz | abrotman: I cant help it I am glutton for punishment |
| 22:21.27 | go1dfish | hmm think I got it fixed |
| 22:21.27 | nekostar | i e its all borked up. |
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| 22:21.34 | go1dfish | turns out it was a cgi |
| 22:21.35 | abrotman | nekostar: use ntp ? |
| 22:21.36 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm gonna meet one next wednesday :) |
| 22:21.39 | nekostar | how can i start it all over? i install ntp-server and stuff |
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| 22:21.46 | abrotman | !ntp |
| 22:21.47 | dpkg | ntp is probably the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntpdate ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
| 22:21.47 | Stevie-O | At the sound of the ping the time will be Fri Mar 31 17:21:46 2006 *ping* |
| 22:21.49 | nekostar | but that doesnt seem to help.. it makes it think its april first |
| 22:22.00 | abrotman | Stevie-O: only in our neck of the woods |
| 22:22.01 | go1dfish | thanks for all the help |
| 22:22.08 | abrotman | tzconfig ? |
| 22:22.09 | nvz | abrotman: I am beginning to wonder if I am attracted to the very things I despise |
| 22:22.14 | nekostar | us/pacific |
| 22:22.17 | abrotman | nvz: bills and addicts? |
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| 22:22.22 | nvz | heh |
| 22:22.31 | abrotman | nekostar: hwclock ? |
| 22:22.40 | nekostar | i cant axx from bash |
| 22:22.48 | abrotman | you can't what? |
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| 22:22.50 | nekostar | is that a package ? |
| 22:22.51 | abrotman | wtf is axx ? |
| 22:22.51 | tarzeau | abrotman: you need a wife too? |
| 22:22.55 | nekostar | access sorry |
| 22:23.00 | abrotman | !find bin/hwclock sarge |
| 22:23.01 | tarzeau | abrotman: there's plenty :) |
| 22:23.06 | abrotman | tarzeau: no .. i need a new job |
| 22:23.09 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/hwclock' (1): (/sbin/hwclock) in base/util-linux. |
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| 22:23.44 | nekostar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:25.44 | nekostar | does that make sense abrotman ? |
| 22:26.04 | nekostar | the package seems to be there but i cannot get it to work.... |
| 22:26.18 | ecdemo | nekostar: maybe you have a weird chipset? |
| 22:26.43 | nekostar | i think hm |
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| 22:26.55 | Mitchi | can someone help me with net install for debian?? |
| 22:27.01 | nekostar | P4 2.8GHZ Socket 775 <<--- supposedly its got that cpu in there... but amd-64 sources are in apt.. |
| 22:27.01 | abrotman | nekostar: npoe .. not to me |
| 22:27.13 | nekostar | could they have installed the wrong debian somehow ? |
| 22:27.19 | abrotman | uname -a |
| 22:27.25 | ecdemo | Mitchi: sometime after you say what you're having trouble with |
| 22:27.30 | abrotman | look at /proc/cpuinfo |
| 22:27.34 | Mitchi | I was typing that... |
| 22:27.42 | abrotman | ecdemo: were you jim? |
| 22:27.48 | nekostar | Linux killeh 2.6.12.6-xen #1 SMP Tue Jan 31 15:36:43 GMT 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:27.56 | Mitchi | I just burned the image, and put it on the PC but it didn't boot from the disc... instead, it loaded windows, which I already have... |
| 22:27.59 | nekostar | yeah shows both places as p4 3ghs... |
| 22:28.00 | Mitchi | is it suppose to do this? |
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| 22:28.06 | nekostar | GHz *** |
| 22:28.28 | nekostar | deb ftp://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main contrib non-free <<--- an example sources line |
| 22:28.39 | petemc | Mitchi: is your bios configured to boot from cds? have you read the installation manual? |
| 22:28.51 | Mitchi | yes I did put cd as the first boot order |
| 22:29.00 | Mitchi | manual says nothing about net install |
| 22:29.16 | petemc | i doubt that |
| 22:29.38 | freeone3000 | Did you burn it right? |
| 22:29.54 | ecdemo | abrotman, why do you ask |
| 22:30.07 | Mitchi | sorry, it worked |
| 22:30.19 | Mitchi | the cd-r didn't load the first time... |
| 22:30.27 | Mitchi | booting... |
| 22:30.34 | mthaddon | Mitchi: Sounds like you may have a bad cd - do a checksum to make sure it's been downloaded correctly |
| 22:30.39 | freeone3000 | It has a nice ncurses thingy. |
| 22:31.01 | Mitchi | does debian format my HDD? |
| 22:31.04 | freeone3000 | Close enough to a GUI to navigate, far enough away to not require X. |
| 22:31.06 | tech13 | just downloaded, burned and booted netinstall 3.1r1a. after detect and mount cdrom, it just stays at a blank blue screen. any advice? |
| 22:31.07 | freeone3000 | Mitchi: If you tell it to. |
| 22:31.10 | tarzeau | Mitchi: if you tell it to |
| 22:31.12 | mthaddon | Mitchi: there should be an md5sum with the CD (on the ftp site) - your CD burner probably has a way to verify that checksum |
| 22:31.17 | Mitchi | can u tell me how I can tell it to? |
| 22:31.22 | freeone3000 | Mitchi: About the third or fourth step it setting up the partition tables. |
| 22:31.33 | Mitchi | I don't want partition, I wanna remove it completely |
| 22:31.34 | freeone3000 | Mitchi: It's ncurses. Can you use your keyboard? You can use the debian installer. |
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| 22:32.12 | mthaddon | Mitchi: One of the options is erase the entire disk - sounds like that's what you want - if that is what you really want |
| 22:32.14 | yoo | Hi ! |
| 22:32.34 | yoo | i can' acesss on my partiton nfs since the client |
| 22:32.38 | yoo | Permission denied |
| 22:32.48 | yoo | somebody can help me ? |
| 22:33.06 | yoo | i can't acesss on my partiton nfs |
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| 22:33.34 | ecdemo | yoo: put more information |
| 22:33.53 | yoo | eccf, 192.168.1.2 client |
| 22:33.53 | ecdemo | yoo: /msg dpkg sicco |
| 22:33.59 | ecdemo | (hi abrotman :P ) |
| 22:34.00 | yoo | 192.168.1.10 server |
| 22:34.54 | yoo | in my/etc/exports on thee server : |
| 22:35.10 | yoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.22 | Mitchi | I'm installing debian... and it asks me for a domain name.. what should be my domain name?? could I just make something up? |
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| 22:35.28 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 22:35.28 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 22:35.49 | tarzeau | Mitchi: michti.the.hero.com |
| 22:36.00 | Mitchi | thanks |
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| 22:36.55 | abrotman | ecdemo: rare ISP |
| 22:36.58 | yoo | ecdemo, i can't do ls, tar commands on my client |
| 22:36.59 | nekostar | abrotman, for the record i found what they did. |
| 22:37.07 | yoo | but i in root ! |
| 22:37.12 | nekostar | they compiled debian for amd-64 and put on a p4 system ~_~ |
| 22:37.21 | nekostar | go go apt-config |
| 22:37.29 | ecdemo | abrotman: ahh |
| 22:37.36 | abrotman | ecdemo: you were jim? |
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| 22:38.22 | yoo | ecdemo, i have this error message |
| 22:38.30 | yoo | Cannot MOUNTPROG RPC: RPC: program not register |
| 22:38.37 | hever | Hello there, I'm a bit in trouble with apt. cat debian_version is: testing/unstable my apt/sources.list references to sarge and stable releases. I get no updates for a while (too long). Whats wrong here? |
| 22:38.45 | tech13 | booted the netinstall cd 3.1r1a with "linux26 noapic nolapic" and after detect and mount cdrom, it just freezes at a blank blue screen. alt-f2 through alt-f12 don't change the screen. Any advice? |
| 22:39.04 | freeone3000 | tech13: md5sum check out? |
| 22:39.08 | ecdemo | so maybe your server or client is missing something required |
| 22:39.14 | wols_ | hever: unless you have security.debian.org in your sources.list you will never ever get updates for sarge |
| 22:39.22 | uwe | anyone knows how to get mysql_config under debian sarge?! |
| 22:39.40 | ecdemo | !wayttd |
| 22:39.41 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do? |
| 22:39.54 | abrotman | ecdemo: that's a no ? |
| 22:40.08 | ecdemo | that's an unspecified :P |
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| 22:40.21 | tech13 | freeone3000, md5 matches |
| 22:40.23 | hever | wols_: I have it listed: deb "http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free" and I'm not shure why, the stable also: "deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main" |
| 22:40.33 | ecdemo | (but think... who wrote sicco?) |
| 22:40.41 | nekostar | so my new question is: if someone was dumb enough to install amd-64 debian on a p4 system.. is it possible to reinstall debain somehow while its running? |
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| 22:41.03 | freeone3000 | tech13: That's odd. |
| 22:41.11 | freeone3000 | nekostar: You can reconfigure the base packages.. |
| 22:41.17 | wols_ | hever: the problem isyour "testing/unstable" then. you ran etch or sid once and downgraded. this is not supported and does not work eihter |
| 22:41.43 | wols_ | hever: now your package versions are higher than in security.debian.org whihc is why those will almost never be installed |
| 22:41.55 | ecdemo | and "cooperation in asking for help" |
| 22:41.57 | hever | wols_: I'm not an expert but this entry looks strange to me, therfore I posted it here. |
| 22:42.06 | tech13 | freeone3000, I've used these CDs to install debian on a few other machines too. They worked fine. The machine can boot Knoppix fine. |
| 22:42.15 | hever | wols_: And what could I do now? |
| 22:42.20 | wols_ | hever: duplicate entries don't really matter |
| 22:42.27 | wols_ | !reinstall |
| 22:42.27 | dpkg | somebody said reinstall was COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 22:42.35 | jayeola | hey chaps. is there a mercurial for sarge? |
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| 22:42.44 | Celeste | re |
| 22:42.46 | wols_ | but downgrading doesn't really work ever, so you cannot really run sarge |
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| 22:43.22 | ecdemo | !find mercurial |
| 22:43.29 | hever | wols_: Ehm sorry I don't understand dpkg really |
| 22:43.32 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'mercurial' (3): (/usr/lib/meld/vc/mercurial.py) in gnome/meld ;; (/etc/bash_completion.d/mercurial, /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/mercurial.el) in devel/mercurial ;; (/usr/share/doc/eric/Source/{eric3doc-eric3.VCS.mercurialPackage.CommandDialog.html|eric3doc-eric3.VCS.mercurialPackage.CommandForm.html|eric3doc-eric3.VCS.mercurialPackage.CommitDialog.html|...}) in python/eric. |
| 22:43.42 | jafd | Hello, I'm building OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 on Sid and have run into a problem during (hopefully) the last stage: when the build process tries to compress the manpages (which seem, for reasons rather mysterious, to be not there), it runs into gzip errors ("won't compress to a terminal") and fails. Can you give me a clue about that which I am probably missing? |
| 22:43.44 | ecdemo | hever: dpkg --help... man dpkg... |
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| 22:44.16 | hever | ecdemo: I mean the answer about reinstall from dpkg |
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| 22:44.42 | hever | wols_: Is there a special package i should reinstall ? |
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| 22:45.04 | ecdemo | maybe there's something specific about the reply you don't understand? |
| 22:45.08 | wols_ | hever: either all of them or none basically |
| 22:45.09 | S4nD3r | Id like to draw network maps, but kivio is not enough, dia doesnt know allow to rotate objects, and I will need to come back to windows ??? |
| 22:45.09 | tech13 | freeone3000, booted method "linux" rather then "linux26" the error on alt-f4, it is unable to find the file "/cdrom/dists//Release" (with 2 // before release), alt-f2, ls /cdrom/dist suggests there should be something like 'stable' between the //s |
| 22:45.11 | yoo | ecdemo, i have an error message |
| 22:45.18 | wols_ | or just change your sources to etch and dist-upgrade |
| 22:45.20 | kb | Is there a magic /proc... or other way I can find the following information: the number of network bytes sent/received, organized by host? (ie: host1: sent/rec, host2: sent/rec, etc.) |
| 22:45.27 | yoo | statd running As root. chown /var/lib/nfs/sm to choose a different user |
| 22:45.31 | jafd | S4nD3r: just try Inkscape |
| 22:45.37 | S4nD3r | I tried |
| 22:45.41 | zenwryly | What would be the recommended way to installing multiple versions of FF? |
| 22:45.46 | yoo | What doess it mean ? |
| 22:45.50 | yoo | Which user ? |
| 22:45.52 | ecdemo | kb: only if you keep those stats |
| 22:45.59 | jayeola | ecdemo: thanks |
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| 22:46.10 | jayeola | !find mercurial |
| 22:46.11 | kb | ecdemo: ah, ok. So the system itself doesn't maintain these statistics? |
| 22:46.19 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'mercurial' (3): (/usr/lib/meld/vc/mercurial.py) in gnome/meld ;; (/etc/bash_completion.d/mercurial, /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/mercurial.el) in devel/mercurial ;; (/usr/share/doc/eric/Source/{eric3doc-eric3.VCS.mercurialPackage.CommandDialog.html|eric3doc-eric3.VCS.mercurialPackage.CommandForm.html|eric3doc-eric3.VCS.mercurialPackage.CommitDialog.html|...}) in python/eric. |
| 22:46.21 | sparr | can anyone here with a debian firefox build load this image? http://libpng.org/pub/png/img_png/16million.png |
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| 22:46.31 | S4nD3r | Inkscape theres no objetics to draw network maps |
| 22:46.44 | hever | wols_: ok and what exactly is etch? is that bad ? |
| 22:46.45 | jafd | S4nD3r: you make them, then |
| 22:46.49 | sparr | S4nD3r: are the flowchart tools inadequate? |
| 22:46.51 | jengelh | sparr: suse firefox, can't load it either |
| 22:46.58 | wols_ | !etch |
| 22:46.58 | dpkg | methinks etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 22:47.00 | bobibleyboo | Is it possible to move a 64bit testing box to i386 testing without fully reinstalling can you just change the apt sources and do a apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 22:47.08 | ecdemo | jayeola: also see packages.debian.org |
| 22:47.10 | sparr | jengelh: official mozilla.org firefox can load it, im trying to narrow down who screwed up :) |
| 22:47.26 | S4nD3r | oh.. no! |
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| 22:47.40 | hever | wols_: Thanks! kewl, so I have to write instead of sarge just etch? |
| 22:47.54 | Kovecses | is k3b in etch yet? |
| 22:47.55 | hever | wols_: (in the sources.list) ? |
| 22:48.00 | freeone3000 | hever: Or name it something like testing. |
| 22:48.08 | freeone3000 | Kovecses: Looks like it is, at least it wasn't removed... |
| 22:48.16 | jafd | S4nD3r: (* in Morpheus-like manner *) yes! I did similar things in LaTeX with PSTricks!.. |
| 22:48.17 | abrotman | ecdemo: and it's confirmed! |
| 22:48.33 | S4nD3r | rsss... |
| 22:48.42 | ecdemo | and that's all because I decided to actually -help- people while I was here... |
| 22:48.44 | yoo | Somebody can help me ? |
| 22:48.46 | S4nD3r | I dont know where are the flowcharts in inkscape |
| 22:48.48 | bucky | sparr The image ?http://libpng.org/pub/png/img_png/16million.png? cannot be displayed, because it contains errors. |
| 22:48.49 | yoo | with nfs |
| 22:48.51 | Kovecses | i need to get back to debian.... deciding on sarge or etch |
| 22:48.53 | yoo | statd running As root. chown /var/lib/nfs/sm to choose a different user |
| 22:48.58 | ecdemo | something I thought I'd -never- do |
| 22:49.08 | jafd | S4nD3r: it's about general purpose vector grapics |
| 22:49.43 | S4nD3r | I will need to draw each object ? |
| 22:50.12 | ecdemo | vector grapes? |
| 22:50.13 | jafd | S4nD3r: probably, until you have a library of them; but rotation and everything is OK :) |
| 22:50.31 | S4nD3r | oh no... |
| 22:50.37 | jafd | ecdemo: grapHics. I've made a typo... |
| 22:50.37 | S4nD3r | It will take a long of time |
| 22:50.50 | jafd | S4nD3r: by the way, are you still running Sarge? |
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| 22:51.01 | bucky | sparr: http://libpng.org/pub/png/img_png/16million-pschmidt.png works |
| 22:51.03 | S4nD3r | yes |
| 22:51.18 | nekostar | ha |
| 22:51.20 | jengelh | sparr: I don't mind, I just filed a bugreport for my distro ;D |
| 22:51.32 | nekostar | now i REALLY know whats going on... its my fault for going to such a cheap host.. |
| 22:51.35 | jafd | S4nD3r: I think dia has made some progress since Sarge is out. |
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| 22:52.17 | sparr | bucky: i know |
| 22:52.22 | E-bola2 | Can u8 make iptables dump its configuration to a file? |
| 22:52.32 | sparr | bucky: i want to know why the other one doesnt work in some FFs |
| 22:52.35 | S4nD3r | No... dia theres no resource to rotate objects |
| 22:52.50 | jafd | So, no one knows why the OO.o build might screw so badly just at the end? |
| 22:52.55 | S4nD3r | I was using, but when I needed to rotate a object, It was impossible |
| 22:52.56 | aidehua | Is '<<' '>>' IRC slang for something? |
| 22:53.08 | ecdemo | E-bola2: have you ever seen how shells redirect output of any command to a file? |
| 22:53.10 | chino | with the basic mini debian can i use wireless ? |
| 22:53.15 | bobibleyboo | Is it possible to move a 64bit testing box to i386 testing without fully reinstalling? can you just change the apt sources and do a apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 22:53.19 | bucky | sparr: maybe ff thinks the error is that MS exploit and has it blocked thru out all versions of ff |
| 22:53.19 | jengelh | aidehua : Not officially. |
| 22:53.26 | bobibleyboo | sorry |
| 22:53.39 | sparr | bucky: it works fine in newer and older FFs from some sources. and in the current mozilla.org ff |
| 22:53.43 | E-bola2 | ecdemo: yes |
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| 22:53.52 | ecdemo | how would that be done? |
| 22:53.55 | E-bola2 | but i cant see any arguments that lists the iptables commands used to generated it |
| 22:53.59 | aidehua | I was too embarassed to ask on another channel. And #debian knows everything. |
| 22:54.00 | jafd | bobibleyboo: I think you will screw up right after some essential libs will be replaced. |
| 22:54.08 | nvz | aidehua: its chevrons and they have meaning in most scripting languages. |
| 22:54.09 | E-bola2 | ecdemo command > filename |
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| 22:54.27 | jafd | bobibleyboo: because half will be 64bit, and half i386 |
| 22:54.28 | aidehua | nvz: someone was here-documenting me! Ugh! :) |
| 22:54.29 | ecdemo | ok, is there a command that lists iptables rules? |
| 22:54.30 | nvz | aidehua: some people when they tab complete it shows <> or <<>> mine just puts your nick and : |
| 22:54.51 | twobitsprite | what mail server would you al recommend that' easy to setup for just a personal account |
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| 22:54.52 | E-bola2 | ecdemo: yes butr not int he right format |
| 22:54.54 | twobitsprite | ? |
| 22:55.06 | bucky | ecdemo: iptables -L |
| 22:55.09 | ecdemo | then you'll probably have to parse it |
| 22:55.14 | E-bola2 | bucky: wrong format |
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| 22:55.19 | E-bola2 | ahh iptables-save is what i need |
| 22:55.37 | nvz | aidehua: personally I prefer nick: or nick, but nick is fine I dont care for <nick> or <<nick>> though its just annoying too many unnessicary chars |
| 22:56.04 | bucky | so why do you ask <<aidehua>> ? |
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| 22:56.12 | XSight | hi, i have built a server with debian, and i dont' have a kvm switch, so the only thing thats hooked up is a eternet connection. (no keyboard no mouse) i installed xtightvncserver, so i'm curious if it is possible or if there was a way to start vncserver on boot? |
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| 22:56.36 | aidehua | I was arguing with someone on ##freebsd about whether to set "hostname" to a single name, or an FQDN. |
| 22:56.44 | nvz | this is the first time I've attached my screen to tty1 on years.. |
| 22:56.55 | aidehua | Just when I thought I'd persuaded them of the former, they typed "aidehua: >>\n<<" |
| 22:56.59 | nvz | I was stopping all my services, and gdm, X..etc while I am away |
| 22:57.00 | ecdemo | there is hostname and there is domainname |
| 22:57.05 | bobibleyboo | jafd: yeah that is what I was thinking any ideas I am still using a 64bit machine but I have been having lots of problems with conflicting pkgs etc or missing deps when I try to install something (open office) for example so I was thinking about going back to I386 untill things are a little more workable in the 64bit branch |
| 22:57.35 | twobitsprite | 1qmail |
| 22:57.38 | twobitsprite | !qmail |
| 22:57.38 | dpkg | [qmail] a non-free (it's illegal to distribute modified binaries) MTA by djb, or http://www.qmail.org/, or for good getting-started docs see LWQ: http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html, or an MTA that insists on having 3.4 million configuration files spread throughout the filesystem. for reasons why you shouldn't use qmail, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2004/02/msg00179.html or http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html |
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| 22:57.53 | bucky | bobibleyboo: you have to install OOo in the 32bit chroot |
| 22:58.03 | ecdemo | !daemontools |
| 22:58.03 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, daemontools is a non-free suite of programs for managing Unix services, at http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html (not to be confused with daemon-tools, which is something that runs on windows and has something to do with CDs and DVDs, not daemons) |
| 22:58.16 | jafd | bobibleyboo: I suggest you do some chroot fandango, to install the system without treading on its own toes. |
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| 22:58.19 | Mitchi | is debian a GUI? |
| 22:58.21 | aidehua | ecdemo: what is this "domainname" setting? |
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| 22:58.46 | ecdemo | man domainname |
| 22:58.47 | jafd | Mitchi: Debian is everything... |
| 22:58.50 | twobitsprite | Mitchi: debain is a linux distribution |
| 22:59.03 | hever | Thanks for your help and bye |
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| 22:59.15 | XSight | lot of google results in rc scripts? but i'm not very familiar with scripting. |
| 22:59.28 | Mitchi | ? |
| 22:59.34 | Mitchi | it just asks me for log in ID and password |
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| 22:59.40 | mpoer | what system group do i need to put myself in in order to freely copy files in and out of other users' directories? |
| 22:59.43 | Mitchi | after I enter it, its just a black screen... |
| 22:59.50 | mpoer | (i'm admin on my mom and brother's computer) |
| 22:59.59 | bobibleyboo | I have never setup a 32bit chroot on a 64bit system any docs that will point me in the right direction |
| 23:00.01 | twobitsprite | Mitchi: do you have a prompt? |
| 23:00.06 | jafd | Mitchi: you are better off with some documentation reading |
| 23:00.14 | Mitchi | true.... |
| 23:00.20 | Mitchi | ask question... can u get me one..? |
| 23:00.26 | Mitchi | last question* |
| 23:00.26 | jsmidt | Which package contains the jpeg header files. I've typed in apt-cache search jpeg but got a million results. |
| 23:00.52 | nvz | Mitchi: their group |
| 23:00.57 | nvz | mpoer: ^ |
| 23:01.14 | mpoer | that's what I thought, do I need to reload GNOME or something, then? |
| 23:01.25 | jafd | Mitchi: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/ |
| 23:01.28 | Mitchi | it'll be great if u can just give me a URL... |
| 23:01.30 | mpoer | I did that but it isn't working |
| 23:01.33 | Mitchi | thanks jafd :D |
| 23:01.42 | nvz | mpoer: might be easier to make their default group something standard like users, and then files they will make will be nick:users instead of nick:nick |
| 23:01.50 | ecdemo | but sometimes that won't work, like if their dir is go-w |
| 23:01.58 | bucky | XSight: doesn't it have an init for it in /etc/init.d already ? |
| 23:02.15 | nvz | mpoer: that way all users including you are member of that group, and using usermod to change their default group should make all files they create that group. |
| 23:02.21 | mpoer | nvz: but wouldn't they be able to move each others' files around, then? |
| 23:02.28 | aidan | where can I find a 'formail' package for sarge? |
| 23:02.39 | nvz | mpoer: yeah :P if they were group writable |
| 23:02.43 | ecdemo | it's in procmail |
| 23:03.03 | nvz | mpoer: why not just admin as root then you dont have that problem regaurdless |
| 23:03.17 | XSight | bucky naw when i list it, it dones't show up |
| 23:03.25 | XSight | there. |
| 23:03.26 | mpoer | because then i have to chmod and chgrp a billion image files |
| 23:03.40 | nvz | mpoer: you mean touching them makes em root:root? |
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| 23:03.50 | mpoer | doesn't it? |
| 23:03.55 | mpoer | like, copying them around? |
| 23:04.00 | bucky | XSight: what's the difference between vncserver and vnc4server ? my apt-file won't list it |
| 23:04.00 | nvz | mpoer: if you have root, then su their user .. |
| 23:04.05 | ecdemo | if you're root maybe |
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| 23:04.10 | nvz | mpoer: if you have root, you dont need their password to become them |
| 23:04.15 | mpoer | true |
| 23:04.25 | mpoer | I guess I'll try that |
| 23:04.29 | XSight | bucky > not sure, i just innstalled xtightvncserver. |
| 23:04.34 | mpoer | it just seems like their should be an easier way |
| 23:05.02 | bucky | XSight: do the docs in /usr/share/doc/xtightvncserver say anything about how it should be run? |
| 23:05.04 | nvz | mpoer: yeah -p |
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| 23:05.18 | jafd | Oh no, openoffice sucks sooooo bad... |
| 23:05.48 | nvz | mpoer: man cp, and afaik move doesnt alter permissions anyhow |
| 23:05.57 | nvz | mpoer: but cp -p wont either |
| 23:05.58 | XSight | bucky -> in that folder i have two files, changelog.Debian.gz and copyright |
| 23:06.04 | bucky | no it doesn't.. the latest OOo works really nice |
| 23:06.19 | jafd | bucky: except that I cannot build it! |
| 23:06.33 | bucky | jafd: backports? |
| 23:06.39 | jafd | bucky: no, on Sid |
| 23:07.02 | jafd | bucky: the whole process fscks up when trying to compress manpages |
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| 23:07.06 | nvz | mpoer: the question I'd ask is why am I handling so many of my users files all the time, and work on giving them access to it and doing it themselves |
| 23:07.18 | bucky | jafd: what version does sid have? |
| 23:07.55 | jafd | bucky: 2.0.2 |
| 23:08.15 | robin__ | meep? ... printer confgiuration from the Gnome desktop ... how? |
| 23:08.20 | bucky | jafd: that's not recent enough for you? |
| 23:08.26 | nvz | robin__: http |
| 23:08.36 | nvz | robin__: http://localhost:631/ if you use cups |
| 23:08.46 | bucky | jafd: that's the latest version |
| 23:09.00 | jafd | bucky: no, I want to package Ukrainian language pack, but it requires having the source and having it built. |
| 23:09.16 | robin__ | nvz, : so, first apt-get cups right? |
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| 23:09.22 | nvz | robin__: cups uses a web based config |
| 23:09.33 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: ? |
| 23:09.34 | freeone3000 | robin__: Yes, and also possibly foomatic or gimp-print, then your printer driver. |
| 23:09.36 | nvz | robin__: I think the package is cupsys but I am not sure.. I only used it once |
| 23:09.41 | Thanatermesis | yo! |
| 23:09.43 | freeone3000 | robin__: Yep, cupsys. |
| 23:09.45 | bucky | jafd: what language is that? |
| 23:09.45 | jafd | It's about adding something new into it. Otherwise I wouldn't be so crazy to wait three days. |
| 23:10.04 | Thanatermesis | nothing dondelelcaro, i think to its good :) |
| 23:10.16 | robin__ | handy ... I'll install it now ... I have a networked Laserjet, with a jetdirect card |
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| 23:10.55 | jafd | bucky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_language |
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| 23:11.08 | nvz | thats what I had used it for my HP LaserJet 4si, but that was years ago.. and I have no idea what a jetdirect is |
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| 23:11.38 | jafd | bucky: I'm definitely not into promoting Gentoo-way on Debian :-) |
| 23:11.38 | nvz | that was before foomatic and gimp print were around |
| 23:11.44 | ecdemo | network print server for HP |
| 23:11.53 | bucky | jafd: is that slavic? |
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| 23:11.58 | jafd | bucky: yes |
| 23:12.12 | _shane | hi i am trying to get a laptop serial port to work, '/proc/tty/driver/serial' has a line in it "0: uart:16550A port:000003F8 irq:4 tx:0 rx:0 CTS|DSR|CD|RI" does this mean it is reconized? |
| 23:12.48 | nvz | my laserjet had all that shit built in.. had two input bins that held like 500 sheets each, two output trays internal duplex, font cartridge slots, parallel, ethernet..etc |
| 23:12.56 | bucky | jafd: not slovak ? |
| 23:13.16 | nvz | just had a damaged transfer roller that would often cause jams and I got tired of rigging it |
| 23:13.31 | jsmidt | Does anybody know what this install error is: usr/local/lib -L../lib -lforms -ljpeg -ltiff -lc |
| 23:13.31 | jsmidt | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltiff |
| 23:13.31 | jsmidt | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 23:13.31 | jsmidt | make[1]: *** [libflimage.so.1.0] Error 1 |
| 23:13.32 | jsmidt | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jsmidt/xforms-1.0/image' |
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| 23:13.40 | kraypius | will this package provide support for hosting asp code?: |
| 23:13.42 | kraypius | libapache-asp-perl - perl Apache::ASP - Active Server Pages for Apache with mod_perl. |
| 23:13.43 | jafd | bucky: no, not Slovak; Ukraine is completely different country, though languages might sound somewhat similarly. |
| 23:14.06 | mpoer | [worked as root] |
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| 23:14.50 | jafd | 'find $(PKGDIR)-$$i -type f -name "*.1" | xargs gzip -9;' Isn't that lame? |
| 23:15.30 | robin__ | OK, so why cant security.debian.org be resolved huh? |
| 23:15.38 | robin__ | oh fooey. network cable fell out :) |
| 23:16.13 | jafd | When gzip has *no* files to compress it fails loudly that it won't compress to a terminal; that upsets make and it's sheer luck that we have the -nc option. |
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| 23:16.53 | rem_ | hey |
| 23:16.57 | rem_ | what does "cpu id 97%" in top mean ? |
| 23:17.04 | wolffc | idle |
| 23:17.10 | rem_ | ah lol |
| 23:17.15 | rem_ | im tired ....thx |
| 23:17.17 | unity | rem_, tha means 3% of your processor is used |
| 23:17.32 | rem_ | thx |
| 23:17.39 | ecdemo | or that 3% of your processor is identified |
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| 23:18.12 | kraypius | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/perl/libapache-asp-perl |
| 23:18.19 | kraypius | is this what im looking for? |
| 23:18.33 | rem_ | is there a way to kill a zombie file...i guess u'd have to kill the parent file...how can u see which file is the zo9mbie one and what the parent is ...? |
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| 23:18.51 | wols | files have parents? |
| 23:18.57 | rem_ | i meant process |
| 23:19.03 | rem_ | sorry .. |
| 23:19.24 | wols | there is pstree I think |
| 23:19.30 | rem_ | ill try that .. |
| 23:19.32 | dondelelcaro | rem_: zombies are just annoying; there's no real reason to worry about them. |
| 23:19.44 | dondelelcaro | rem_: it just means that the parent has a bug and isn't calling waitpid on the chipd like it should. |
| 23:19.56 | ecdemo | sometimes zombies start sucking cpu % |
| 23:20.10 | dondelelcaro | ecdemo: by definition, a zombie is dead, so it can't. |
| 23:20.21 | rem_ | ok thx for infos .. :D |
| 23:20.48 | ecdemo | I've seen it happen |
| 23:20.59 | ecdemo | here was the situation... |
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| 23:21.35 | dondelelcaro | you can have processes which are trying to parse the process tree eating more cpu, or run out of available pids, but that's about it. |
| 23:22.21 | streuner | How many times do you feel to measure how many percent (CPU) zombies used to need? ;-) |
| 23:22.22 | ecdemo | shadow password suite, someone would log in remotely then kill off the telnet client... the shell process (was getty then login then became shell) |
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| 23:22.43 | ecdemo | started consuming processor time |
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| 23:22.52 | ecdemo | this bug was fixed tho |
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| 23:23.47 | ecdemo | but there may be others like it, maybe in things like xdm |
| 23:23.51 | joseph | I need information on how to install flash and java plugins. Thanks. |
| 23:24.11 | _shane | hi i am trying to get a laptop serial port to work, '/proc/tty/driver/serial' has a line in it "0: uart:16550A port:000003F8 irq:4 tx:0 rx:0 CTS|DSR|CD|RI" does this mean it is reconized? |
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| 23:24.21 | streuner | joseph: for mozilla-firefox package? |
| 23:24.32 | joseph | streuner: No for epiphany browser. |
| 23:25.07 | dondelelcaro | that's just a process that's still running. It's not a zombie. |
| 23:25.07 | dondelelcaro | it may be an orphan or a daemon, but until it's exit()'ed (or SIG'ed out) it's not dead. |
| 23:25.37 | ecdemo | joseph: install java-package, read its doc called SUPPORTED, get one of the supported java runtimes (re) or runtime+programmer support (sdk), use make-jpkg to create a debian package out of it, install that package |
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| 23:26.14 | ecdemo | that's the overall process for java... some steps abbreviated; you'll have to look some things up |
| 23:26.58 | joseph | ecdemo: Isn't there just a package I can install? |
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| 23:27.04 | ecdemo | No. |
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| 23:27.20 | ecdemo | you have to make the package, as I outlined. |
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| 23:28.07 | syntaxis | joseph: the process is almost entirely automated, other than you downloading the jre/sdk and telling make-jpkg where it is |
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| 23:28.25 | ecdemo | and btw, read the license... you may or may not be legally permitted to give it out or share it or whatever |
| 23:28.57 | joseph | is there a FAQ page that I can see these instructions? |
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| 23:29.14 | streuner | java lizense in that way, you are not allowed to change it |
| 23:29.28 | streuner | only blackdown has the lizense to |
| 23:29.44 | streuner | that's the reason why it isn't in debian... |
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| 23:30.42 | joseph | so is there a web page with these instructions? or what's the first step to do exactly? |
| 23:31.23 | streuner | joseph: you see the lizense if you create it via make-jpkg |
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| 23:31.39 | streuner | joseph: and after you install the resulting deb, IIRC |
| 23:32.01 | joseph | What lizence? |
| 23:32.04 | joseph | What does that mean? |
| 23:32.11 | joseph | I just want to install the java plugin, how do I do that? |
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| 23:32.34 | unity | should i have to redo alsamixer everytime i start up debian, or is there a way to make the mixer remember my preferences? |
| 23:32.50 | streuner | unity: run aumix and hit 'S' |
| 23:33.02 | dondelelcaro | unity: /etc/init.d/alsa does it for you. |
| 23:33.14 | robin__ | sigh ... I just KNEW printer config would be hard :( |
| 23:33.32 | streuner | robin__: inkjet? |
| 23:33.47 | robin__ | nah, laserjet on a jetdirect card |
| 23:33.57 | robin__ | cups is set up ... |
| 23:34.00 | xirjs | which processor-family do i need in kernel Ã-cong for a pentium D920ß ? |
| 23:34.07 | robin__ | but after submitting a job |
| 23:34.28 | unity | streuner: i don't have aumix, how can i save when using alsamixer? |
| 23:34.31 | robin__ | in the completed jobs it just says "cancelled at <time:dat>" |
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| 23:34.40 | streuner | unity: i use aumix... |
| 23:35.03 | joseph | I need information on how to install flash and java plugins. Thanks. |
| 23:35.42 | _shane | hi i am trying to get a laptop serial port to work, '/proc/tty/driver/serial' has a line in it "0: uart:16550A port:000003F8 irq:4 tx:0 rx:0 CTS|DSR|CD|RI" does this mean it is reconized? |
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| 23:36.44 | DarKnesS_WolF | guys i'm in testing and i just updated libglib2 from the repositry and i start geting glibc errors and core dumps |
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| 23:37.10 | DAaaMan64 | I am probably going to be purchasing a USB HDD, what do I need to boot off of that with any distro? |
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| 23:37.19 | Kraig | what's a good type testing package? |
| 23:37.25 | Kraig | i mean, speed testing |
| 23:37.31 | xirjs | does anybody know which processor-family i have to choose for a pentium d920 in the kernel-config? |
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| 23:38.01 | streuner | xirjs: for intel prolly 686 |
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| 23:38.28 | streuner | !686 |
| 23:38.28 | dpkg | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M (as in the chip used in the "Centrino" brand). not correct for EM64T Xeon/Pentium4's, which should use a -em64t-p4 kernel |
| 23:38.32 | usan | i just installed debian sarge, I have ac97 sound card, and does not work, i installed alsa-base and alsa-utils and i tried alsaconf, it does not find ac97, what should i do? |
| 23:38.43 | phogg | !tell joseph about install java |
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| 23:39.05 | bab_ | I'm trying to run the oficial ATI installer app (8.23.7), and doesn't work. It crashes with a small & cryptic error message. Could there be anyother place/file where it might log its output? |
| 23:39.18 | robin__ | printing on linux always seems to be hard :( ... so, any further clues? |
| 23:39.43 | robin__ | clicking "restart job" just gets "cleint error; not possible" |
| 23:40.02 | joseph | phogg: I don't really understand what dpkg said. |
| 23:40.19 | streuner | robin: start reading /msg dpkg hpinkjet install |
| 23:40.20 | joseph | " rumour has it, install java is First, read <java licensing>." What does that mean? |
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| 23:40.36 | robin__ | streuner, but I dont have an inkjet ... |
| 23:40.43 | streuner | robin, well |
| 23:40.54 | xirjs | streuner: what do you mean with _prolly_ ... i just need the processor-family to choose ... ? |
| 23:41.00 | phogg | joseph: you have to keep reading. |
| 23:41.04 | robin__ | but .. if you think it will help ... |
| 23:41.08 | streuner | robin__: on the same page are more infos not only about inkjets |
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| 23:41.20 | lhurgoyf | hi guys, I have a mighty mouse, but when I "hd" all of the files in /dev/input/, I can't see the horizantal scrolls |
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| 23:41.43 | joseph | phogg: keep reading what? |
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| 23:41.47 | XBM-x | at 14, he started hacking netscape at 19, he unveiled firefox, a blazing-fast browser that was downloaded 1 millons times the first day now it's the hottest thing on the internet he say (watch your back bill gates) |
| 23:42.04 | phogg | joseph: Read the rest of what dpkg said and ask dpkg about java package. |
| 23:42.08 | pacopacino | does anyone here know a good mail client or webmail for debian sarge? |
| 23:42.16 | streuner | robin__: you need to have a *working* ppd, that's all, the install and configure process is in CUPS the same |
| 23:42.26 | Kraig | sylpheed is a good mail client. |
| 23:42.58 | _shane | DAaaMan64: did you get an answer |
| 23:43.02 | phogg | pacopacino: use mutt, unless you prefer a GUI. I use thunderbird, but not everyone will agree. |
| 23:43.07 | robin__ | streuner, from the config, it looked like cups had its own laserjet driver ... |
| 23:43.12 | DAaaMan64 | _shane: no |
| 23:43.21 | robin__ | but, if I need this as well, no problem .. in it goes |
| 23:43.28 | streuner | robin__: install more ppd's |
| 23:43.39 | robin__ | yeah yeah ... :) |
| 23:43.48 | robin__ | whats a ppd by the way? |
| 23:44.02 | phogg | robin__: postscript printer definition |
| 23:44.09 | robin__ | handy |
| 23:44.14 | streuner | !ppd |
| 23:44.15 | dpkg | hmm... ppd is postscript printer description. See http://www.linuxprinting.org, or the docs for lpr, lprng, pdq, cups, or whatever the hell printing system you use. |
| 23:44.18 | joseph | should I just use the free java implementation? how do they compare to the sun java? |
| 23:44.18 | _shane | DAaaMan64: The first thing to check is that the BIOS of you computer has the option of booting from USB then most recent Linux distros will boot and install from USB. |
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| 23:44.46 | pacopacino | phogg, okay...is mutt an mta server? could you integrate it with a webserver? |
| 23:45.04 | phogg | pacopacino: you asked for a mail client, not a mail server |
| 23:45.12 | phogg | color me redundant |
| 23:45.13 | streuner | !mta |
| 23:45.14 | dpkg | somebody said mta was a mail transfer agent, in other words sendmail or any of its replacements (such as exim4, postfix, qmail, ssmtp, zmail, etc).. |
| 23:45.17 | streuner | !mtu |
| 23:45.17 | dpkg | well, mtu is Maximum Transferrable Unit.. Maximum Transmission Unit, or what tracepath (package iputils-tracepath) can find about, or can be configured in interfaces - see <interfaces> |
| 23:45.19 | usan | anybody knows how to make AC97 soundcard work in debian sarge? |
| 23:45.26 | DAaaMan64 | _shane: Thanks for the response. So installing to the USB Harddrive and then telling it to install the mbr on that drive won't work? I am want to beable to boot from school too. |
| 23:45.27 | phogg | !mua |
| 23:45.27 | dpkg | somebody said mua was a mail user agent, in other words mutt, balsa, pine, elm or any other mail client program. |
| 23:45.31 | lhurgoyf | !mda |
| 23:45.31 | dpkg | well, mda is mail delivery agent, such as procmail; or C10H13NO2, 3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine, molecular (atomic) weight 179.2182 |
| 23:45.50 | robin__ | I lurv debian ... apt-get install hplip && job done |
| 23:45.53 | streuner | so much for making confusing perfect :-) |
| 23:46.07 | pacopacino | phogg, sorry |
| 23:46.07 | phogg | that is about as informative as it gets |
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| 23:46.21 | De_Mon | I want to print line 102 from a file +/- 2 lines what should I be using? grep doesn't seem to do it |
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| 23:46.32 | robin__ | DAaaMan64, no, that wont work, mostly |
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| 23:46.59 | robin__ | DAaaMan64, mainly becuase, until the OS is up and running the PC cant "see" the usb hard drive |
| 23:46.59 | lhurgoyf | De_Mon: tail -104 file | head -2 is a bad solution |
| 23:47.09 | robin__ | DAaaMan64, chicken and egg |
| 23:47.24 | _shane | DAaaMan64: the first thing is the BIOS, most modern computer can boot from USB but it isn't enabled, so if you what to be able to use the same drive at home and school you will need to find out if the school computer can boot of USB. |
| 23:47.26 | delysid25 | anyone have an idea why i log in to my testing box to find the fonts are huge? |
| 23:47.29 | DAaaMan64 | robin__: Even if I tell it in the bios to look for a usb os on the hdd? |
| 23:47.47 | thom_ | help |
| 23:47.50 | robin__ | DAaaMan64, depends on your PC bios .. if it can boot from USB .. mayeb |
| 23:48.08 | DAaaMan64 | _shane: The schools all boot from USB and so does my home comp. So it should work then right? |
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| 23:48.42 | DAaaMan64 | _robin: thank you. |
| 23:49.00 | _shane | DAaaMan64: I would expect it to. |
| 23:49.36 | phogg | delysid25: High nuclear activity in your area |
| 23:49.37 | DAaaMan64 | _shane: I am just going to use grub and install it to the usb drive. I think that will work.... Thanks for the information, _shane and _robin. :)) |
| 23:50.12 | joseph | Okay I made the java package and installed it. How do I make a java plugin for epiphany? |
| 23:50.18 | _shane | DAaaMan64: one thing that can be done is you can get USD->IDE adaptors so you don't need to buy a dedicated USB drive. |
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| 23:51.37 | The-Saint | what's the command to stop X? |
| 23:52.06 | Coweater | ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 23:52.10 | delysid25 | i have exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 75 -nolisten tcp in /etx/X11/xinit/xserverrc |
| 23:52.19 | j33 | my box is giving me a lot of errors: ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0xd0/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/47/00 then ata1: status=0xd0 { Busy } |
| 23:52.21 | j33 | what's that mean? |
| 23:52.25 | pacopacino | phogg, i am confused about mta...how do you actually create e-mail adddresses on a web server? |
| 23:52.29 | DAaaMan64 | _shane: this would work except I can't open up my schools comps :p |
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| 23:53.08 | twobitsprite | arg... I can't find any useful information concerning configuring exim on debian |
| 23:53.13 | phogg | pacopacino: you have some reading to do |
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| 23:53.20 | joseph | okay java plugin works. |
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| 23:53.24 | Luka666 | ellow |
| 23:53.24 | petemc | twobitsprite: /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/ |
| 23:53.24 | _matej | twobitsprite: /usr/share/doc/exim* :-)? |
| 23:53.30 | joseph | now how do I get macromedia plugin working? |
| 23:53.33 | _shane | hi i am trying to get a laptop serial port to work, '/proc/tty/driver/serial' has a line in it "0: uart:16550A port:000003F8 irq:4 tx:0 rx:0 CTS|DSR|CD|RI" does this mean it is reconized? |
| 23:53.50 | phogg | pacopacino: for my setup, I require a local user account. You don't have to but it suites my purposes. |
| 23:53.51 | petemc | _shane: dmesg|grep tty |
| 23:54.04 | robin__ | streuner: having installed hplip, nothing much has changed |
| 23:54.37 | phogg | !tell joseph about flashplugin-nonfree |
| 23:54.37 | Luka666 | im looking for a way to limit a programs maximu bandwith usage? |
| 23:54.59 | _shane | petemc: answer = "[ 19.079345] ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A" |
| 23:55.03 | phogg | Luka666: not really |
| 23:55.06 | pacopacino | phogg, i have tried reading exim realted sites, but i still dont get it...by 'local user account,' you mean that if your site is "triplex.com," your clients have email addresses saying john.doe@triplex.com? |
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| 23:55.14 | robin__ | streuner, although I do get a new "hp_no_device_found" option in cups |
| 23:55.18 | Azar | twobitsprite: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-mail |
| 23:55.26 | Luka666 | phogg: is there a program that can limit the bandwith? |
| 23:55.37 | twobitsprite | Azar: thanks :) |
| 23:55.49 | bucky | twobitsprite: exim or exim4 ? |
| 23:55.54 | twobitsprite | exim4 |
| 23:55.58 | robin__ | streuner, which is not too suprising as the printer is not connected to the computer |
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| 23:56.18 | nekostar | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free <<---- what would i change that line to to upgrade to etch ? |
| 23:56.19 | bucky | twobitsprite: apt-get install exim4-doc-html |
| 23:56.36 | fabsoft | postfix too |
| 23:56.41 | phogg | pacopacino: on your box you have users like root and e.g. jason. You can set it up so that there are matching email addresses e.g. jason@yourhostnamehere.com. |
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| 23:57.07 | _matej | twobitsprite: what do you want exim for? isn't it overkill (which it is, if you have just one computer directly connected to the Internet)? There are more simple SMTP servers ... |
| 23:57.09 | twobitsprite | a lot of the FAQs, etc mention running "eximconfig" but I don't have that for some reason... |
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| 23:57.23 | phogg | Luka666: afaik you must use traffic shaping and it is not easy. Someone else will know better, all I know is I couldn't figure it out. |
| 23:57.30 | joseph | phogg: I did apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree. I got an error: "No new version is detected" |
| 23:57.30 | twobitsprite | _matej: yeah... I just want a basic one user personal mail server... what do you suggest? |
| 23:57.31 | pacopacino | phogg, so your saying that users have their own e-mail addresses? |
| 23:57.32 | _matej | twobitsprite: did you install from deb packages? |
| 23:57.41 | _matej | twobitsprite: apt-cache search smtp :-) |
| 23:57.46 | twobitsprite | _matej: exim4 installed by default (I guess..) |
| 23:57.50 | phogg | pacopacino: if you want them to, you can set it up so they do |
| 23:58.05 | _matej | twobitsprite: when you install some other SMTP server, exim4 will be uninstalled. |
| 23:58.24 | twobitsprite | _matej: which one do you recommend? |
| 23:58.51 | fabsoft | use postfix |
| 23:58.52 | _matej | twobitsprite: not sure, I have exim4 because I was serving whole home network. |
| 23:58.53 | phogg | twobitsprite: exim or postfix, whichever you find easier |
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| 23:59.11 | joseph | I: checking http://macromedia.rediris.es/tarball/debian/... |
| 23:59.11 | joseph | No new version is detected. ( = not installed) |
| 23:59.12 | fabsoft | or fetchmail to fetch only mail |
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| 23:59.31 | robin__ | Luka666, you could look at the LARTC project |
| 23:59.31 | robin__ | tc might help |
| 23:59.31 | robin__ | Luka666, of course if you are talking about apache, then many ways exist to limit bandwith, |
| 23:59.34 | phogg | joseph: you probably already have it. look for libflashplayer |
| 23:59.48 | pacopacino | phogg, why would someone want people who have e-mail addresses on a server to have user status too? |
