| 00:00.12 | bsims | meh someone has a deb up |
| 00:00.23 | simonrvn | bsims: could be configure isn't seeing them because it isn't doing a proper check for their presence. i've had that happen before. it'd be a couple of versions greater than what it's looking for, and thinks it isn't there because it's fucked. gotta go play in configure.in if need be |
| 00:01.18 | evaded | So i have listen to 'dpkg' and have try "modprobe bttv msp3400 tuner; wmtvmotv", and receive an command not found for 'wmtvmotv'. Also i find not that package, what is wrong? |
| 00:01.23 | bsims | thanks anyway I'll play some more but debian.kcore.org has a binary up |
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| 00:01.53 | simonrvn | cool |
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| 00:02.08 | TuxMeister | hey guys |
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| 00:02.19 | cluck | abrotman: hot swap the console video mode, i knew there had to be an equivalent to bsd's vidcontrol in debian |
| 00:02.54 | TuxMeister | anybody knows what package do i need to recode various mp3 (lower the quality, for smartphone)? |
| 00:03.25 | cluck | TuxMeister: mplayer/mencoder should do the trick |
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| 00:03.53 | TuxMeister | could i select various mp3's an batch-process them all toghether? |
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| 00:08.56 | simonrvn | ... |
| 00:09.00 | Aghaster | ... |
| 00:09.06 | Aghaster | ubuntu is based off debian, so you are owned. |
| 00:09.07 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
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| 00:10.11 | simonrvn | molinero: come back when you turn 16 |
| 00:10.37 | Aghaster | lol ;) |
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| 00:11.26 | flaco | hi... i got a IBM thinkpad... and... the sound works.. (the gnome sounds), but the mp3 dont... i have to run alsaconf every time when i want to listen mp3 |
| 00:11.29 | flaco | any idea? |
| 00:11.30 | bharat | I'm having no success finding the upstream source repository for the libapache2-mod-auth-mysql module. does anybody know where it is? |
| 00:11.53 | bharat | it does not appear to be http://sourceforge.net/projects/mod-auth-mysql/ |
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| 00:12.39 | evaded | If i migrate to 'Etch' from 'Sarge', can i simple go back again to 'Sarge' without reinstalling the whole system? |
| 00:12.56 | simonrvn | it's generally one-way |
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| 00:13.24 | evaded | Currently running Sarge, and thinking to upgrade to Etch. |
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| 00:14.15 | Daedalus_ | evaded: do you have a reason for wanting to upgrade? Or are you just curious baout the new sparklies? |
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| 00:14.20 | Daedalus_ | err about |
| 00:14.21 | evaded | On my laptop already running Etch, so a bit experience of it. But having a dump question ^^ |
| 00:15.13 | evaded | Daedalus_: Curious, but also whant i bit recenter packages, But also whant to 'Testing', so if i can help finding bugs etc... |
| 00:15.22 | evaded | s/i/a |
| 00:15.46 | evaded | Ans i want also have the same as on my laptop :-0 |
| 00:15.47 | cluck | TuxMeister: yes you could |
| 00:15.53 | evaded | hoela, errno |
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| 00:16.32 | TuxMeister | cluck, isn't there any gui for that, or another prog? |
| 00:16.33 | S4nD3r | hello |
| 00:16.43 | cluck | flaco: probably esd is your problem :) |
| 00:17.13 | cluck | TuxMeister: probably |
| 00:17.25 | simonrvn | kill esd, and stop it from running. (not in that order) |
| 00:17.40 | simonrvn | sound from the prefs menu iirc |
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| 00:18.12 | cluck | TuxMeister: but if you're looking for something gui based try gstreamer based players/encoders |
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| 00:19.33 | Daedalus_ | evaded: Well, upgrading from stable to testing is generally a one-way thing. There are some ways to unofficially do it, but they're mostly messy and usually involve lots of breakage. |
| 00:20.31 | evaded | Daedalus_: If i follow the official Debian way, there are no problems? |
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| 00:25.18 | Arrowhead | hey all |
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| 00:25.48 | Arrowhead | is anyone here familiar with fstab? i've got an fstab related question..... |
| 00:26.04 | simonrvn | just ask. someone will answer |
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| 00:26.46 | Arrowhead | i'm trying to get my second hard drive to auto-mount on boot.....and have it be writable by users |
| 00:26.47 | blafd | hey there |
| 00:26.54 | blafd | how do i get libpangocairo? |
| 00:26.56 | Arrowhead | like i want to mount the 2nd drive to /home |
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| 00:27.18 | Arrowhead | but when i reboot, i always get it auto-mounted by root and not writable by anyone BUT root |
| 00:27.34 | faber_451 | Arrowhead: have you got the "user" mount option set? |
| 00:27.35 | somePriest | At work I've been using gnome-terminal. I like that it can be tabbed. As I'm a programmer I keep a vertically split vim in each tab. I don't have gnome installed here at home, and gnome-terminal has a huge amount of dependencies. Is there another terminal emulator that would do what I want? Is there an alternate solution to having a lot of VIMs open without cluttering a tasbar, or having a silly number of splits in VIM/ |
| 00:27.45 | Arrowhead | faber: yes i have |
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| 00:27.58 | Arrowhead | i tried to use "defaults" then tried "dfaults, user" |
| 00:28.03 | Arrowhead | neither works..... |
| 00:28.08 | bbrazil | somePriest: try screen |
| 00:28.11 | faber_451 | Arrowhead: have you chmod'd the moutn point? |
| 00:28.16 | faber_451 | *mount |
| 00:28.22 | Arrowhead | but when i tried "defaults, user, noauto" then at least users can mount and write to it |
| 00:28.26 | bbrazil | somePriest: with a statusbar |
| 00:28.28 | Arrowhead | but only ONE user can write at a time |
| 00:28.32 | faber_451 | hmm |
| 00:28.40 | rvsjoen | Arrowhead: set the gid,uid and/or umask |
| 00:29.00 | menko | Arrowhead: my home partition is also owned by root, but the user directories in home are owned by each respective user |
| 00:29.26 | blafd | how do i get libpangocairo? |
| 00:29.31 | blafd | !! |
| 00:29.32 | dpkg | No sóc el teu puto indicador de csh |
| 00:29.43 | Arrowhead | faber: hmm....the mount point is set as root....does it propogate that permission upon reboot if auto? |
| 00:29.43 | somePriest | bbrazil, Ok, thanks. I've used screen before. Can it have nice-simple hot keys to change between virtual ... screens. |
| 00:29.59 | Arrowhead | menko: is your home mount rwxrwxrwx? |
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| 00:30.22 | Arrowhead | my home is current rwxr-sr-x.....that COULD be my problem..... |
| 00:30.24 | jshriver | how do I recover dpkg when the system get's borked? |
| 00:30.51 | jshriver | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 00:30.51 | jshriver | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 00:31.03 | jshriver | when I check the files isnt there |
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| 00:31.08 | abrotman | !tell jshriver about status-recover |
| 00:31.12 | abrotman | !tell jshriver about status-recovery |
| 00:31.19 | jshriver | my system had power failure during a install |
| 00:31.36 | bbrazil | somePriest: c-a <number> |
| 00:31.56 | blafd | So, youve just swept the libpangocairo thing under the carpet? |
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| 00:32.12 | simonrvn | they're different libs |
| 00:32.48 | Arrowhead | so is it recommended that my /home directory be owner root and chmod 777? |
| 00:32.53 | simonrvn | no |
| 00:32.56 | Arrowhead | that sounds dangerous to me |
| 00:32.57 | somePriest | bbrazil, Configurable I suppose. c-a, hmmm, tight squeeze. I see a lot of key bindings in linux are done on the same hand with keys I'd normally hit with the same finger. |
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| 00:33.05 | rvsjoen | not at all |
| 00:33.10 | bbrazil | somePriest: all configurable |
| 00:33.15 | rvsjoen | why would you do that ? |
| 00:33.21 | jshriver | ok now it's complaining that available isn't available |
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| 00:33.48 | Arrowhead | i'm trying to mount my second drive as /home upon boot.....and it currently is readwrite as root and read-only everyone else |
| 00:34.01 | Arrowhead | i tried messing w/ fstab but to no avail.... |
| 00:34.08 | jshriver | is it worth fixing dpkg or should I just do a fresh install? |
| 00:34.14 | menko | Arrowhead: that's normal |
| 00:34.26 | jshriver | this is starting to remind me of windows registry lol |
| 00:34.39 | menko | Arrowhead: as long as your normal user can rw /home/userdir then that shouldn't matter really |
| 00:35.06 | Arrowhead | menko: do you mean it is normal for most systems to have /home set as 777? |
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| 00:35.28 | menko | Arrowhead: well it has been in debian, ubuntu and mandriva |
| 00:35.35 | menko | Arrowhead: afaik |
| 00:35.42 | Arrowhead | menko: or maybe 775, as full is too agressive..... |
| 00:35.45 | rvsjoen | 777? are you kidding me |
| 00:36.22 | Arrowhead | rvsjoen: well, i don't know how to get the 2nd drive to behave otherwise..... |
| 00:36.26 | rvsjoen | afaik in debian default permissions on /home are drwxr-sr-x |
| 00:36.36 | Arrowhead | rvsjoen: that is my CURRENT setup |
| 00:36.38 | menko | Arrowhead: not sure about the 777 part, but what you said earlier yes |
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| 00:36.49 | blafd | I think thanks to what i can tell is the bad management of package repostrys, its basically rendering sarge gtk setups in pritty shitty shape |
| 00:36.55 | Arrowhead | rvsjoen: and that setup doesn't work because the 2nd drive mounts as root rw and everyone else ro |
| 00:37.06 | blafd | considering its "stable" thats prity fucking shaby |
| 00:37.16 | menko | Arrowhead: so why doesn't taht work? |
| 00:37.18 | Knorrie | Arrowhead: no! /home is 755 or 2755 but *not* 777 |
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| 00:37.40 | menko | Arrowhead: as long as the user directory in /home has user permissions then that's fine |
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| 00:37.59 | Arrowhead | menko: because when i boot it up, ROOT does the mount, and ROOT gets 755....which means nobody in /home other than root can write to /home |
| 00:38.06 | korhalf | im getting this apt::force-loopbreak error |
| 00:38.09 | Arrowhead | including all subdirs of home |
| 00:38.18 | korhalf | efs2progs is getting removed or something dangerous like that |
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| 00:38.25 | menko | Arrowhead: well change the permissions of the subdirs manually then |
| 00:38.30 | korhalf | and its not letting me continue instlaling the packages |
| 00:38.47 | korhalf | i tried using -o apt::forceloopbreak=true but its not working |
| 00:38.49 | rvsjoen | Arrowhead: what does your fstab look like |
| 00:38.50 | korhalf | whats the syntax for it? |
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| 00:39.08 | simonrvn | whoah, a gtk2 version of gmc |
| 00:39.08 | Narja | hmmm... i updated and now X suddenly is complaining about "No drivers available"... what's the place to look? |
| 00:39.10 | Arrowhead | rvsjoen: currently it is like this: [17:34] * efaistos__ has quit ("Parti") |
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| 00:39.11 | Arrowhead | [17:34] Arrowhead is anyone here familiar with fstab? i've got an fstab related question..... |
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| 00:39.26 | Arrowhead | [17:35] Arrowhead i'm trying to get my second hard drive to auto-mount on boot.....and have it be writable by users |
| 00:39.29 | Arrowhead | [17:35] blafd hey there |
| 00:39.31 | Arrowhead | [17:35] blafd how do i get libpangocairo? |
| 00:39.32 | menko | Arrowhead: not sure if mounting home as a diff drive as opposed to just a diff partiton on the same drive, but that setup works for me |
| 00:39.43 | simonrvn | um |
| 00:39.43 | Arrowhead | [17:35] Arrowhead like i want to mount the 2nd drive to /home |
| 00:39.43 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*i=stryker@*.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] by RichiH |
| 00:39.43 | RichiH | !paste |
| 00:39.43 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 00:39.43 | rvsjoen | omg |
| 00:39.43 | simonrvn | thanks RichiH |
| 00:39.52 | RichiH | Arrowhead: i will unban you in a minute |
| 00:39.57 | RichiH | simonrvn: de nada |
| 00:40.09 | simonrvn | i think his paste buffer got filled up accidentily =) |
| 00:40.17 | RichiH | simonrvn: i assume as much, too |
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| 00:40.27 | RichiH | Arrowhead: /flushq might help you, too |
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| 00:40.52 | simonrvn | RichiH: good to see you |
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| 00:41.33 | dimitrisp | hi guys, how can I "exchange" to packages which provide the same thing w/o reinstalling eveything that depends on them? |
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| 00:42.29 | Arrowhead | thanks rich |
| 00:42.33 | Arrowhead | sorry bout that everyone |
| 00:42.41 | simonrvn | np. accidents happen |
| 00:42.42 | KHSHOMESTEPH | hello to all - I have the problem that I want to change/write from my windows pc on my debian sarge / reiserfs partition - my reiserfs is mounted in fstab as defaults 0 0 - what must I change to give all users (also over samba) write permission? I have tried this (like my vfat) users,gid=users,auto,umask=000 0 0 but the datas are lost when I do this |
| 00:42.48 | RichiH | yah, forget it :) |
| 00:43.02 | abrotman | KHSHOMESTEPH: do what ? |
| 00:43.02 | jshriver | I have a gnome question... how can I make it so the window at the bottom loads when I boot up and gnome runs |
| 00:43.10 | jshriver | what app is that? |
| 00:43.16 | abrotman | window at the bottom? |
| 00:43.24 | RichiH | KHSHOMESTEPH: the 0 0 means how often and when your system performs file system checks |
| 00:43.29 | Narja | gnome-panel? |
| 00:43.39 | Arrowhead | so from what i hear, i can manually alter the permissions on /home after the automount and that should solve my problem..... |
| 00:43.46 | RichiH | i am not sure if one can mount reiserfs with umask=000, but that is what you want, i guess |
| 00:44.01 | Arrowhead | even though home itself is 755 that should not affect the permisions UNDER home? |
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| 00:44.20 | rvsjoen | correct |
| 00:44.22 | RichiH | Arrowhead: yes |
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| 00:44.37 | Arrowhead | great.....i'm off to reboot and try again..... |
| 00:44.41 | Arrowhead | thanks for the help everyone! |
| 00:44.42 | menko | Arrowhead: you can change the permissions of the dirs under home |
| 00:44.49 | chealer | dimitrisp: do you have an example? |
| 00:44.50 | rvsjoen | why reboot ? just remount |
| 00:45.03 | plb | I installed openoffice in 32bit chroot which it runs fine if I call it while I'm inside, however when using dchroot to call it I get /usr/bin/ooffice: line 7: my: command not found |
| 00:45.04 | Arrowhead | rvsjoen: well, i want to make sure it automounts on boot |
| 00:45.10 | rvsjoen | hehe ok |
| 00:45.16 | dimitrisp | sure: I accindentally installed gamin a light version of the FAM |
| 00:45.19 | RichiH | Arrowhead: you can have 000 on /secret/ and 755 on /secret/public/ and everyone will be able to cd /secret/public/ |
| 00:45.29 | Arrowhead | currently my fstab is::: *and i hope i don't mess up this time.... |
| 00:45.43 | dimitrisp | now I want the fam package back |
| 00:45.45 | KHSHOMESTEPH | I am a newbie - when I write it in my fstab like this - reiserfs defaults,umask=000 0 0 I have the write permissions? |
| 00:45.48 | RichiH | (not that it would help in your case, just an example tp clarify) |
| 00:46.07 | dimitrisp | but apt-get install fam results einai 30-40 packages beeing removed |
| 00:46.11 | Arrowhead | bleh, it keeps thinking of the IRC buffer to paste |
| 00:46.19 | dimitrisp | yet fam provides what gamin provides |
| 00:46.20 | Arrowhead | anyway, fstab reads defaults, user, noauto |
| 00:46.21 | RichiH | KHSHOMESTEPH: oh wait.. you wnat to write to your reiser partition from WINDOWS? |
| 00:46.29 | Arrowhead | gonna change that to defaults only.... and reboot :(=) |
| 00:46.36 | rvsjoen | good |
| 00:46.37 | Arrowhead | bbl... |
| 00:46.49 | simonrvn | dimitrisp: yes. so don't install fam then if you don't want those removed |
| 00:46.59 | simonrvn | fam is effectively poo-poo |
| 00:47.04 | dimitrisp | but I had it installed 10 minutes ago |
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| 00:47.16 | tuv | can gamin take over fam? |
| 00:47.20 | simonrvn | means nothing |
| 00:47.22 | simonrvn | yes |
| 00:47.25 | chealer | dimitrisp: why are they removed6 |
| 00:47.27 | KHSHOMESTEPH | yes that is my problem - that my windows client pc want to change files on my debian sarge - reiserfs device - |
| 00:47.38 | rvsjoen | through samba ? |
| 00:47.38 | dimitrisp | chealer, because they depend on it |
| 00:47.52 | chealer | dimitrisp: on what? |
| 00:47.55 | dimitrisp | chealer, but fam provides the same thing |
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| 00:47.58 | abrotman | KHSHOMESTEPH: but via samba ? |
| 00:48.03 | dimitrisp | chealer, fam | gamin |
| 00:48.18 | RichiH | KHSHOMESTEPH: ok. then you can forget about fstab completely. look at http://yareg.akucom.de/ http://www.wolfsheep.com/map/rfsgui/ http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html |
| 00:48.26 | KHSHOMESTEPH | yes via samba - my linux debian is a file-server |
| 00:48.28 | RichiH | abrotman: sounds like dual boot to me |
| 00:48.31 | RichiH | oh |
| 00:48.32 | dimitrisp | hmmm |
| 00:48.37 | abrotman | samba doesn't care if it's reiser |
| 00:48.54 | dimitrisp | basically I could just pdkg -r gamin and then dpkg -i fam right? |
| 00:49.04 | RichiH | cya |
| 00:49.07 | simonrvn | see you |
| 00:49.09 | dimitrisp | it'b be broken inbetween but fine in the end |
| 00:49.23 | simonrvn | i doubt it |
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| 00:49.34 | dimitrisp | why not? |
| 00:49.53 | rvsjoen | if you try to install fam will it try to remove gamin automatically ? |
| 00:50.04 | dimitrisp | yess |
| 00:50.06 | simonrvn | for the simple reason that some of those depend exclusively on gamin |
| 00:50.10 | dimitrisp | and everything it depends n |
| 00:50.13 | slinn | if i'm running 'time <command>' and i want to redirect the time it reports to a file, how would i do that? |
| 00:50.13 | `Rage | does anyone know where one can acquire the debian default .config for a particular debian kernel? I just wanna change 2 options, don't wanna break anything :) |
| 00:50.15 | dimitrisp | no |
| 00:50.22 | dimitrisp | I just installed gamin right now |
| 00:50.26 | dimitrisp | nothing depends on it |
| 00:50.35 | rvsjoen | `Rage: make mrproper |
| 00:50.51 | dimitrisp | it wasn't even a dependency just recommended |
| 00:51.05 | dimitrisp | I don't know why I had to install the damned thing |
| 00:51.08 | `Rage | rvsjoen: that generates the .config the pre-packaged kernel was compiled with? |
| 00:51.08 | simonrvn | i thought it did. |
| 00:51.10 | KHSHOMESTEPH | no no not a dual boot :-) - 1 windows pc - 2. debian sarge file server - over samba - I dont want to change files from windows on same harddrive |
| 00:51.26 | dimitrisp | I'll give it a try |
| 00:51.59 | jshriver | how do I recreate /var/lib/dpkg/available? |
| 00:52.00 | simonrvn | *shrug*. there was another reason too. i think it's in the gamin changelog (debian) |
| 00:52.00 | jshriver | I tried what dpkg recommended but now it's complaining about the available file |
| 00:52.00 | korhalf | any ideas as to why Perl is giving me warnings about my local LC_SET or something or other and how it keeps reverting it to C? |
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| 00:52.43 | karrot-x | what was woodys release number? |
| 00:52.53 | simonrvn | 3.0x |
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| 00:53.01 | chealer | !tell karrot-x about woody |
| 00:53.15 | korhalf | Does anyone know? |
| 00:53.15 | karrot-x | thanks guys |
| 00:53.36 | slinn | is there a way to redirect the output of time? |
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| 00:53.50 | korhalf | slinn: flux capacitor? |
| 00:53.50 | Arrowhead | hey all, i'm back :p |
| 00:53.58 | dooglus_ | slinn: 2> |
| 00:54.00 | slinn | the command time |
| 00:54.10 | slinn | ie. time make |
| 00:54.11 | Arrowhead | so after an auto-mount, it wouldn't let root change permissions on the 2nd drive |
| 00:54.15 | rvsjoen | `Rage: I think so, though im not sure if it generates a 'debian' .config or a standard .config |
| 00:54.18 | simonrvn | i command you to time me |
| 00:54.20 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 00:54.24 | Arrowhead | including files within it :( |
| 00:54.38 | dooglus_ | slinn: time make 2> file |
| 00:54.39 | `Rage | rvsjoen: neither, it seems |
| 00:54.56 | slinn | dooglus_: the output from time wasn't written to the file |
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| 00:55.20 | slinn | slinn: nothing was written to the file, actually |
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| 00:56.18 | Arrowhead | slinn: what about "some-command > file 2>&1" |
| 00:56.28 | cluck | bye all |
| 00:56.46 | slinn | yeah sure, but i don |
| 00:56.54 | slinn | 't want the output of a command, i want the output of time |
| 00:56.57 | \amethyst | slinn: the time builtin takes a whole pipeline as its arg |
| 00:57.01 | jshriver | I tried what dpkg recommended but now it's complaining about the available file, how can I fix this? |
| 00:57.01 | dimitrisp | well it doesn't work... |
| 00:57.11 | dimitrisp | I can't force dpkg to remove gamin |
| 00:57.18 | \amethyst | slinn: (time program) 2> foo |
| 00:57.27 | dimitrisp | there has to be a way |
| 00:57.28 | rvsjoen | `Rage: it should http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html#CONFIGURATION |
| 00:57.31 | \amethyst | slinn: or (time program 2>&1) 2> foo to avoid getting the program's stderr |
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| 00:57.40 | dooglus_ | slinn: bash -c 'time make' 2> file |
| 00:57.51 | plb | anyone here on amd64 run openoffice in 32bit chroot? |
| 00:57.54 | slinn | \amethyst: cool, thanks |
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| 00:58.14 | simonrvn | dimitrisp: yeh, leaving it alone |
| 00:58.22 | Arrowhead | does anyone have any suggestions on mounting a 2nd drive automatically upon boot? |
| 00:58.35 | dimitrisp | simonrvn, I don't get it I messed it up can't I unmess it up? |
| 00:58.38 | jmg | edit /etc/fstab |
| 00:58.46 | karrot-x | how do you find the version of postfix? |
| 00:58.54 | dimitrisp | simonrvn, there's no good reason I have to use gamin instead of fam |
| 00:58.57 | rvsjoen | Arrowhead: what file system is it ? |
| 00:59.02 | Arrowhead | jmg: i treid; fstab is currently defaults, but only root can write it |
| 00:59.03 | chealer | dimitrisp: are you able to install libfam0 without big removals? |
| 00:59.19 | jmg | Arrowhead: then su |
| 00:59.25 | abrotman | karrot-x: dpkg -l postfix |
| 00:59.25 | bbrazil | karrot-x: dpkg -l packagename |
| 00:59.26 | dimitrisp | simonrvn, in fact, only onyl gnome-panel requires it, everything else depends on that |
| 00:59.27 | Arrowhead | rwsjoen: uname gives me 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 00:59.37 | rvsjoen | no, file system, on the disk you're trying to mount |
| 00:59.42 | Arrowhead | ah |
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| 00:59.51 | \amethyst | dimitrisp: maybe apt-get install fam gamin- |
| 00:59.56 | Arrowhead | i have it on auto detect |
| 01:00.00 | Arrowhead | but it was formerly a windows drive |
| 01:00.04 | Arrowhead | so i'm guessing vfat |
| 01:00.15 | dimitrisp | \amethyst, thanks but I tried that |
| 01:00.22 | rvsjoen | fat doesn't store and permission data as far as i'm aware |
| 01:00.27 | \amethyst | dimitrisp: try using aptitude instead |
| 01:00.27 | rvsjoen | s/and/any |
| 01:00.31 | dooglus_ | what's a good mail client that works well with large mailboxes? |
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| 01:00.47 | \amethyst | dimitrisp: it's better at resolving conflicts |
| 01:00.48 | rvsjoen | that is your problem |
| 01:00.49 | unity | dooglus_: mutt, mozilla-thunderbird, evolution, kmail |
| 01:00.50 | Arrowhead | rvsjoen: so you think in order for the drive to work as my /home mount i need to reformat it? |
| 01:00.52 | \amethyst | in my experience |
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| 01:01.02 | dimitrisp | chealer, I'll be darned, apt-get install libafma0 just required the removal of: gnome-core and a couple of other debs |
| 01:01.17 | dooglus_ | unity: i've been trying to get thunderbird to work all day, it just won't. the mailbox is 40k messages, 1gb in size |
| 01:01.19 | dimitrisp | but not all gnome debs? how is that possible |
| 01:01.31 | dimitrisp | anyway apt-get install libafma0 fam works fine! |
| 01:01.36 | rvsjoen | Arrowhead: if you intend to use it with permissions, yes. If you just want to mount it so everyone can write it ( or a group, or user ), no |
| 01:01.44 | dimitrisp | something is a little buggy in there |
| 01:01.44 | abrotman | dooglus_: is it related to that malloc g_slice thing ? |
| 01:01.51 | \amethyst | dimitrisp: it's possible because most gnome packages don't depend on the panel |
| 01:02.08 | unity | dooglus_: run in a terminal and see if it prints that thing abrotman said |
| 01:02.11 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Everything is realated to the malloc g_slice thing. |
| 01:02.16 | dooglus_ | abrotman: i don't know, it is just incredibly slow. it hangs when i move messages, or when i compact the folder |
| 01:02.21 | Arrowhead | rvsjoen: hmm....so for starters, how do i get it so everyone can write it? |
| 01:02.28 | abrotman | dooglus_: oh .. nm .. it's not that then |
| 01:02.35 | Arrowhead | rvsjoen: is that the chmod /home 777 thing you were discussing before? |
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| 01:03.07 | dimitrisp | \amethyst, so why did I have to remove them before? I mean I tried removing just gamin and I think only the panel depended on it |
| 01:03.09 | dimitrisp | oh well |
| 01:03.20 | dimitrisp | it's ok now |
| 01:03.23 | rvsjoen | mount it with options, umask=007,gid=100 and add the users you want to be able to write to it to the 'users' group |
| 01:03.23 | pawdro | where i can add to gcc linker options "-lTurboC -lncurses " to make it defaults by system? |
| 01:03.28 | dimitrisp | thanks to everybody |
| 01:03.30 | `Rage | heh, found it... /boot/config-2.x.xx is the default kernel .config lol |
| 01:03.34 | dimitrisp | its 4AM here |
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| 01:03.37 | dimitrisp | gotta sleep |
| 01:03.43 | dimitrisp | bye |
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| 01:04.31 | Arrowhead | rvsjoen: so i add that in the fstab then...after "defaults" |
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| 01:04.48 | rvsjoen | yes |
| 01:04.54 | Pedro420 | nvz_: Hows WV Nandrew ? |
| 01:04.59 | IceTox | Is anyone here using Eterm? You see.. I've just edited a .conf file, and it seems to have locked itself.. I cannot do any commands.. Is there anyone who has been in the situation and found a solution? I want to to save this file. |
| 01:05.23 | segin | hm |
| 01:05.33 | Arrowhead | cool, thanks rvsjoen......i'm gonna go try that out |
| 01:05.40 | Arrowhead | bbl.... |
| 01:05.50 | rvsjoen | i'm out, look in the vfat section of 'man mount' |
| 01:05.55 | \amethyst | IceTox: try ctrl-q |
| 01:05.57 | rvsjoen | time to go to bed, good luck |
| 01:06.07 | Arrowhead | before you go |
| 01:06.19 | Arrowhead | one last question: how do i reformat the drive for permissions? |
| 01:06.41 | rvsjoen | mke2fs |
| 01:06.41 | Arrowhead | (and ensure i'm not accidentally formatting my main disk) |
| 01:07.06 | Arrowhead | great, thanks |
| 01:07.14 | IceTox | look, \amethyst I'm not that newbie.. I'm asking a serious question, and all you can come with is bull? |
| 01:07.14 | rvsjoen | use -j options for ext3 and journalling |
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| 01:07.21 | rvsjoen | good night |
| 01:07.26 | Arrowhead | gnite and thx |
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| 01:07.37 | fadar | s |
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| 01:07.45 | jmg | IceTox: you've probably turned on scroll lock inside your session. |
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| 01:07.47 | fadar | I SNEEK PAST TO BUN |
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| 01:07.53 | jmg | IceTox: try ctrl-q or ctrl-l |
| 01:07.55 | \amethyst | IceTox: what editor? |
| 01:08.23 | unity | IceTox: please be nice to people that are voluteering to help you |
| 01:08.32 | IceTox | nevermind.. I'm sorry \amethyst.. I'm just used to getting dumb answers, and thought ctrl+q = quit. |
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| 01:08.37 | fadar | ANY HELP TO WITH TO QUACK? |
| 01:08.48 | \amethyst | IceTox: no, ctrl-q is XON |
| 01:09.04 | \amethyst | IceTox: terminal flow control---ctrl-S pauses, ctrl-Q unpauses |
| 01:09.08 | fadar | I NEED TO HELP FOR TO THE QUACK!!! |
| 01:09.14 | IceTox | yes and thanks.. It seemd to work at nano |
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| 01:09.35 | unity | fadar: pleaes drop the caps and don't talk nonsensically |
| 01:09.42 | paulsen | fadar: troll. |
| 01:09.46 | lawnchair | fadar, hahah |
| 01:10.01 | X600 | He's trolling. Poorly. |
| 01:10.10 | unity | actually he is kind of funny maybe we should let him say more |
| 01:10.10 | rcy | hello #debian |
| 01:10.11 | fadar | I AM NOT TO WELL TO THE QUACK |
| 01:10.17 | unity | haha |
| 01:10.25 | IceTox | again. Thanks a lot \amethyst .. :-) |
| 01:10.30 | fadar | ALL FOR I WANT IS THE HELP WITH TO THE QUACK!! |
| 01:10.37 | paulsen | fadar: your hostname kind of blew your cover right away.. |
| 01:10.37 | weasel_00 | !moo |
| 01:10.37 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 01:11.00 | jmg | paulsen: how can you tell he is a troll from his hostname? |
| 01:11.02 | weasel_00 | duluth... lol |
| 01:11.12 | fadar | I RUN TO QUACK AND TO DIE IT |
| 01:11.28 | fadar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.34 | paulsen | jmg: because nobody in canada sucks that much in english |
| 01:11.52 | jmg | paulsen: i dunno... Quebec is pretty bad in parts |
| 01:11.52 | X600 | Hmm. I think I know who fadar is, actually. |
| 01:11.52 | paulsen | but bah |
| 01:11.59 | paulsen | we're feeding the troll by talking about it |
| 01:12.03 | paulsen | lets just ignore instead. |
| 01:12.03 | Aghaster | je suis québécois |
| 01:12.07 | unity | fadar: quake? |
| 01:12.10 | Aghaster | but i speak english very well |
| 01:12.11 | unity | !fr |
| 01:12.11 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 01:12.13 | X600 | I believe I've seen him in the Yahoo *nix room. |
| 01:12.19 | fadar | UNITY : YES TO QUACK |
| 01:12.27 | Aghaster | unity: i spoke french cause someone mentionned quebec |
| 01:12.39 | jmg | fadar: please stop shouting. also learn to spell |
| 01:12.54 | fadar | MY SISTER TAKE THIS, SHE TO SAY I NOT HAVE TO UNTIL I TO GET TO QUACK |
| 01:12.58 | \amethyst | jmg: the spelling seems to be impeccable |
| 01:13.07 | abrotman | fadar: come on .. stop being a pain in the ass |
| 01:13.17 | abrotman | fadar: please go elsewhere |
| 01:13.21 | segin | X600, i'm a reg in that room. |
| 01:13.21 | jmg | fadar: ok please just shut up |
| 01:13.21 | unity | fadar: first let of shift |
| 01:13.29 | fadar | WHY TO ME OF HELP ME!! ALL FOR WANT IS TO GOOD GAME OF PLAY |
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| 01:13.30 | weasel00 | i think by spelling they ment gramar |
| 01:13.31 | paroneayea | hello, I created an image which is based on another computer's already installed system.... which I rolled into a tar file and then installed onto another computer by pretty much just untarring it. It boots okay until it gets to the /dev filesystem, which it complains is readonly, then tries to create /dev/null and fails, then kills itself |
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| 01:13.35 | unity | fadar: apt-get install quake2 |
| 01:13.43 | unity | fadar: type that in as root and shut up |
| 01:13.45 | paroneayea | anyone know how to get it to work, or what would be altogether wrong with it? |
| 01:13.52 | fadar | MY SISTER COME TO HERE SOON AND SHE TO MAKE ME BAD TIME !!!! |
| 01:13.57 | abrotman | !ops fadar |
| 01:13.57 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: fadar |
| 01:14.18 | \amethyst | paroneayea: was /dev already mounted before you untarred? |
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| 01:15.00 | fadar | I HAVE NO LITTLE KEY TO THE TYPEWRITTEN!!! |
| 01:15.24 | jmg | fadar: TYPE /QUIT |
| 01:15.33 | fadar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.40 | fadar | TO NO LITTLE LETTER! |
| 01:15.49 | jmg | fadar: /QUIT |
| 01:15.57 | jmg | fadar: #quakeondebian,0 |
| 01:16.02 | paroneayea | \amethyst: well, I booted off of a gentoo livecd, so it was mounted there, but not on the filesystem I untarred it into |
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| 01:16.23 | abrotman | helix: thank you |
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| 01:16.39 | jmg | helix: i was hoping he'd fall for /j #quakeondebian,0 |
| 01:16.40 | \amethyst | paroneayea: hmm |
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| 01:16.57 | helix | heh |
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| 01:17.13 | unity | i wonder how someone can be so dumb |
| 01:17.29 | jmg | from being bashed against the wall at birth |
| 01:17.33 | jmg | he's probably like 7 |
| 01:17.53 | paroneayea | \amethyst: do you think I need to populate it *before* I boot? |
| 01:17.55 | abrotman | unity: it's called "trolling" |
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| 01:19.06 | \amethyst | paroneayea: are you using udev or anything? |
| 01:19.30 | _matej | is there any official debian kernel which would include swsusp2 patch? |
| 01:19.32 | dooglus_ | mutt writes the whole mail folder when i edit a single message and then quit. is there a sane mail client? |
| 01:19.37 | paroneayea | \amethyst: udev was installed on the filesystem that existed there previously, yes |
| 01:19.43 | dooglus_ | maybe one that uses a proper database? |
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| 01:19.55 | \amethyst | paroneayea: I mean, the OS you're trying to boot now |
| 01:20.04 | paroneayea | yes, udev was installed |
| 01:20.10 | bbrazil | dooglus_: don't use mbox. try maildir |
| 01:20.12 | syntaxis | dooglus_: this is just a guess, but might it not be different if you used a maildir instead of mbox format? |
| 01:20.18 | \amethyst | paroneayea: so it should be able to mount over /dev... |
| 01:20.37 | \amethyst | paroneayea: what in the initialization is producing the error, exactly |
| 01:20.38 | \amethyst | ? |
| 01:20.51 | rcy | I'm trying to get cups working, i get "Unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": No such device". dmesg shows me "usb 1-1.3: new full speed USB device using address 8" |
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| 01:20.53 | dooglus_ | i'll look at maildir - but fear it's going to result in a directory containing 40,000 files? |
| 01:21.05 | rcy | i'm not sure where to start with getting this working |
| 01:21.14 | bbrazil | dooglus_: probably. can I interest you in procmail? |
| 01:21.15 | \amethyst | dooglus_: yes, so make sure you have a decent filesystem |
| 01:21.16 | abrotman | dooglus_: it's WAY better for large mailboxes |
| 01:21.40 | \amethyst | dooglus_: and don't run ls on that directory too often, because ls is O(nlog n) |
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| 01:22.32 | paroneayea | \amethyst: I'm not sure what you mean. I think it is because /dev/ is literally empty, but I don't know why it would be read-only as it says it is |
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| 01:22.58 | dooglus_ | bbrazil: what would procmail do for me? all i'm trying to do is back up my gmail account |
| 01:23.01 | \amethyst | paroneayea: ah, maybe the kernel you're using was compiled without udev support? |
| 01:23.11 | bbrazil | dooglus_: so why are you editing files? |
| 01:23.30 | abrotman | dooglus_: don't worry .. google has tons of copies of your email :) |
| 01:23.54 | dooglus_ | bbrazil: i guess when i read a mail in mutt it got marked as 'read', and that counted as an edit |
| 01:24.12 | dooglus_ | abrotman: they have copies of it, but won't let me read any of them |
| 01:24.18 | bbrazil | dooglus_: yip. I've yet to find a way around that |
| 01:24.27 | dooglus_ | abrotman: the service is down 95% of the time for me these days |
| 01:24.33 | bbrazil | dooglus_: crtl-c maybe |
| 01:25.09 | paroneayea | \amethyst: hm, it is possible, but I don't think so... it was a standard debian binary, 2.6.8-3 I think, and I was able to apt-get install udev fine on the original machine this image was made from |
| 01:25.10 | abrotman | dooglus_: oh .. i don't use my gmail much |
| 01:25.57 | dooglus_ | abrotman: i have several accounts there, but my main one seems to be on a very flaky server |
| 01:26.22 | segin | hmm |
| 01:26.28 | _matej | sorry, trying once more: is there any official debian kernel which would include swsusp2 patch? |
| 01:26.45 | segin | that fadar charater reminds me of this bfinn guy from a long time ago |
| 01:26.51 | dooglus_ | \amethyst: what is a decent fs? |
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| 01:28.54 | segin | unity, you there? |
| 01:29.54 | grapefruit | dooglus_: ext3 is a good fs |
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| 01:32.36 | aatcman | Hi |
| 01:32.44 | aatcman | anyone for a quick question? |
| 01:32.47 | aatcman | please :o) |
| 01:33.33 | abrotman | just ask |
| 01:33.58 | aatcman | I installed debian on powerpc platform using the sarge installer |
| 01:34.07 | aatcman | now I am trying to use the make command |
| 01:34.12 | aatcman | and I get command not found |
| 01:34.16 | abrotman | !b-e aatcman |
| 01:34.16 | dpkg | aatcman: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 01:34.21 | unity | aatcman: apt-get install build-essetial |
| 01:34.33 | aatcman | will that work without a network connection to it? |
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| 01:34.52 | unity | dooglus_: http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html |
| 01:34.55 | aatcman | i am going to try that noe |
| 01:34.56 | abrotman | uhm .. depends on which CD you used to install |
| 01:34.59 | aatcman | meant now |
| 01:35.00 | abrotman | !fs comparison |
| 01:35.01 | dpkg | well, filesystem comparison is http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html or http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ or http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html |
| 01:35.01 | Money | any weed smokers in here? |
| 01:35.06 | abrotman | Money: wrong channel |
| 01:35.33 | Money | abrotman: nah, im pretty sure there are some people in here that smoke weed, weed is awesome |
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| 01:35.44 | abrotman | Money: tough shit .. it's totally OT |
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| 01:35.52 | aatcman | i used the net install disk -- i have a cd i downloaded for my wifi card -- justtrying to install it |
| 01:35.53 | Money | OT? |
| 01:35.56 | abrotman | Money: are you still the avont_ from the other night ? |
| 01:35.58 | quik__ | hey folks |
| 01:36.19 | aatcman | get out of here weed dude |
| 01:36.19 | uddk | Money: weed burns synapses, you will become stupid |
| 01:36.20 | abrotman | aatcman: and the driver needs make? |
| 01:36.21 | quik__ | I've been tossing up weather to give gentoo a go. Can anyone tell me why debian is better? |
| 01:36.23 | jmg | Money: one here |
| 01:36.30 | aatcman | yes, the driver needs make |
| 01:36.32 | Money | abortman: what are you talking about? no, im a noob c++programer, that smokes weed, and has a pretty nice life |
| 01:36.34 | jmg | uddk: Get a clue |
| 01:36.51 | abrotman | Money: you should stop now .. |
| 01:36.54 | Money | weed only has shortterm effects |
| 01:36.56 | Money | nothing permanent |
| 01:36.56 | aatcman | will the command you gave me work on my setup? |
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| 01:37.10 | abrotman | Money: how about you msg jmg ... and you two can talk about it ... |
| 01:37.23 | jmg | i love to smoke weed and use debian |
| 01:37.27 | Money | i remember, the other weekend, i smoked a joint, and i wasplaying the game, i couldn't concentrate worth shit, and kept driving past my destination in the car |
| 01:37.37 | abrotman | Money: STOP |
| 01:37.39 | Money | abrotman: start smoking weed, its fun |
| 01:37.44 | abrotman | i quit a long time ago |
| 01:37.51 | Money | heh |
| 01:37.51 | Money | ok |
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| 01:39.03 | silensius | how can i download also image files from a site whith wget ? |
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| 01:39.29 | abrotman | silensius: huh ? |
| 01:39.31 | unity | wget url.to.image |
| 01:39.33 | abrotman | also image files ? |
| 01:39.40 | silensius | yes |
| 01:39.51 | abrotman | wget <url> |
| 01:39.58 | abrotman | -b -c might be helpful |
| 01:40.10 | aatcman | I tried the command, and it says E: COuldnt find package build-essential |
| 01:40.20 | unity | silensius: you can run wget in mirror mode to get like everything but a many webmasters dislike this and in fart, it may be illegal |
| 01:40.29 | abrotman | aatcman: you only have wifi ? |
| 01:40.47 | silensius | yes i know i juste want to know how i can |
| 01:40.51 | aatcman | for that machine, yes -- I lost the stupid dongle for the wired car |
| 01:40.58 | aatcman | d |
| 01:41.04 | aatcman | :o) |
| 01:41.07 | abrotman | aatcman: you may have to download CD1 .. the full ISO |
| 01:41.50 | aatcman | just cd1? I avoided that path because there were SOOOOOO many cds in that list (like 20?) |
| 01:42.17 | abrotman | aatcman: cd1 should have enough to compile a driver |
| 01:42.25 | abrotman | aatcman: well ... i'd hope so |
| 01:42.28 | abrotman | !cd contents |
| 01:42.28 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
| 01:43.43 | aatcman | thanks for the help. How do I make the apt thing read the cd for the install package? |
| 01:43.53 | abrotman | apt-cdrom should cover it |
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| 01:45.25 | chris_ | anyone know how to get vnc to work? |
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| 01:45.42 | chris_ | vncviewer 10.0.1.34 |
| 01:45.42 | chris_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.44 | cjohnson | Hey. I just installed sid earlier today, and MP3s will play in totem, but not in rhythmbox. Are there any additional packages I need to install for that (I already have the gstreamer-plugin-good,bad,ugly packages, if that matters) |
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| 01:46.50 | abrotman | cjohnson: check your alsa levels |
| 01:47.07 | chris_ | abrotman do you know about vnc? |
| 01:47.15 | abrotman | man vncviewer ? :) |
| 01:47.26 | w32 | what is the best way to reconfigure a debian install with out having to reinstall ? I just want to strip it back to to the minimum |
| 01:47.29 | chris_ | :) i downloaded tightvnc |
| 01:47.36 | chris_ | for windows and linux |
| 01:47.48 | chris_ | but doesnt seem to work |
| 01:47.49 | abrotman | there's a vnc client packaged in debian .. more than one |
| 01:47.51 | chris_ | on ubuntu |
| 01:47.54 | cjohnson | abrotman, the slider in rhythmbox doesn't even move though. it's like they don't start playing at all |
| 01:47.56 | abrotman | oh ffs .. ask #ubuntu |
| 01:47.59 | w32 | like a roll back of sorts |
| 01:48.05 | chris_ | ohh wont talk to me! |
| 01:48.15 | abrotman | w32: deborphan ... |
| 01:48.20 | chris_ | whats the commands do you know off hand? |
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| 01:48.30 | abrotman | apt-cache search vnc |
| 01:48.34 | w32 | deborphan ? |
| 01:48.42 | abrotman | !deborphan |
| 01:48.42 | dpkg | deborphan is a package that will tell you what library packages you have installed that nothing's using. If you want remove all packages use 'deborphan | xargs apt-get -y remove --purge' |
| 01:48.42 | aatcman | thanks :o) |
| 01:48.48 | Azar | chris_: commands in debian are not same as in ubuntu: ask in #ubuntu |
| 01:48.49 | abrotman | aatcman: work ? |
| 01:49.01 | chris_ | o well thanks |
| 01:49.03 | chris_ | :) |
| 01:49.15 | aatcman | still downloading image .iso |
| 01:49.16 | chris_ | you gave me a command and it worked |
| 01:49.27 | cjohnson | abrotman, alsamixergui has the volume levels at about 50% |
| 01:49.30 | evaded | The default '2.6.8-2-686' (deb) kernel, have these support for the 'bttv'? Having some troubles to get my TV tuner working |
| 01:49.58 | Azar | cjohnson: not that I know much but does your application player that you are using alsa plugin? |
| 01:50.04 | abrotman | cjohnson: rthynm box should work with gstreamer |
| 01:50.17 | w32 | abrotman: http://w32.pastebin.com/636935 |
| 01:50.38 | abrotman | w32: man deborphan |
| 01:50.40 | w32 | do i need to install deborphan ? it's not installed by default |
| 01:50.46 | abrotman | yes . install it |
| 01:51.09 | w32 | thanks this was a very mninmal install to begin with i just screwed up qmail bad |
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| 01:51.41 | abrotman | qmail is bad :) |
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| 01:52.39 | tung | maybe a silly question, i havent used the im such a while, i forgot the ssh commands, how do you do an ssh get or ssh put? |
| 01:53.08 | cjohnson | Azar, that'd only be preventing sound, wouldn't it? It's like rhythmbox isn't even playing the file though, not just playing it and I'm not hearing it. |
| 01:53.12 | abrotman | tung: scp ? |
| 01:53.42 | hanasaki | gxine is playing videos fine... totem with the xine backend doesnt know how to play the video of some stuff.. sup with that? |
| 01:54.02 | Azar | cjohnson: the player not making any move for you seems it is missing some "engine" or is not told you are using what (alsa). But that is just a guess |
| 01:55.10 | w32 | abortman: I'm having a hard time with it really-I started having trouble with otrs so I figured I 'd seperate it all mail server on one box, mysql on another otrs on its own box-that way things are minimal and easy to trouble shoot but ...headaches at every level-any thing worth learning is hard so I'll just keep plugging away thanks for the help |
| 01:55.19 | Azar | cjohnson: same happened at first to me, with xmms: was sitting still so I had to work on alsa then tell xmms to use alsa plugin instead of oss. Then it worked |
| 01:55.42 | abrotman | w32: switch to postfix ? :) |
| 01:56.12 | cjohnson | Hmm, I'll screw around w/it some more then, Azar. I didn't see any ALSA stuff earlier, but I'll check again. |
| 01:56.43 | w32 | abrotman:I'm considering it- as it seems less wordy when it comes to configuring a smarthost |
| 01:56.56 | w32 | but I hear qmail is really secure |
| 01:57.02 | cheal | hanasaki: what do you mean by "doesnt know how to play the video of some stuff.. sup with that?"? |
| 01:57.08 | Azar | cjohnson you can also google for : rhythmbox on Debian see what other people did to configure it |
| 01:57.19 | abrotman | w32: uhm .. not quite |
| 01:57.30 | hanasaki | cheal: i just get audio |
| 01:57.37 | cjohnson | Azar, will do. Thanks. |
| 01:57.56 | w32 | abortman: i read there's like a 500 reward to any one that can exploit it |
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| 01:58.27 | yggdrasil | can somone help me mount a usb memory stick |
| 01:58.38 | yggdrasil | mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist |
| 01:58.44 | abrotman | w32: you can check archives .. but it has issues |
| 01:58.55 | tung | abrotman: thanks! |
| 01:59.13 | tung | my mind just went blank and i couldnt remember it |
| 01:59.22 | abrotman | tung? |
| 01:59.23 | w32 | ygdrasil: http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsamwel/usb_storage_on_debian.html maybe some help |
| 01:59.26 | abrotman | oh |
| 01:59.39 | tung | abrotman: about the scp |
| 01:59.39 | abrotman | !vfatrw |
| 01:59.40 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux).. |
| 01:59.45 | abrotman | tung: no problem |
| 01:59.59 | hanasaki | cheal: that make sense? |
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| 02:00.28 | cheal | hanasaki: yes, but what stuff are you talking about...what's your question? |
| 02:00.44 | cjohnson | Ah, got it. gstreamer0.10-alsa fixed my problems. Thanks, guys. |
| 02:01.13 | hanasaki | cheal: ok.. since i am using totem-xine should they play the same? gxine or totem? 2. how can i get the video to play in totem also? |
| 02:02.33 | cheal | hanasaki: yes, I would think they should support the same things, but what's the thing which is not consistently supported in question? |
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| 02:02.48 | hanasaki | cheal: playing the video |
| 02:03.00 | cheal | hanasaki: what kind of video? |
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| 02:03.46 | hanasaki | wmv |
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| 02:04.13 | FKtPp | hi all |
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| 02:04.28 | cheal | !wmv |
| 02:04.28 | dpkg | rumour has it, wmv is http://wiki.debian.net/?WindowsMediaVideo , or a method to get used to pain |
| 02:04.38 | FKtPp | which package can update fstab when a usb device pluged in? |
| 02:05.02 | FKtPp | I saw mandrake use a util named fstab-sync |
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| 02:06.15 | FKtPp | Does debian provide this kind of thing? Or, how can I make the gnome-volume-manager work properly? |
| 02:06.21 | cheal | hanasaki: which version of WMV is it? |
| 02:06.34 | hanasaki | cheal: thanks.. umm but whyu would the same video play in gxine and not tome-xine? how do i check the ver? |
| 02:06.55 | cheal | dpkg: the wiki page hints about finding the version |
| 02:07.08 | syntaxis | FKtPp: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/11/msg00201.html covers this, but I'm not sure what the outcome was |
| 02:07.22 | FKtPp | syntaxis: thanks |
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| 02:07.53 | syntaxis | FKtPp: basically, the "pmount" package enables the same functionality without /etc/fstab having to be edited at all |
| 02:08.05 | hanasaki | cheal: i will check on the next one .. thanks! |
| 02:09.27 | menko | FKtPp: pysdm does it, but I think it's only in ubuntu repos for now. I just download tar.gz and it works fine. |
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| 02:10.52 | magyar | i have someone hacking on sshd , a request every 2 seconds, isnt sshd could be setup to stop connection ofter 5 retries? |
| 02:10.54 | cheal | dpkg: no, wmv is http://wiki.debian.org/WindowsMediaVideo : a Microsoft video format using proprietary technologies, partially reverse-engineered. support under Debian (without using non-free software) is limited. |
| 02:10.54 | dpkg | okay, cheal |
| 02:11.24 | Azar | magyar: read about denyhosts |
| 02:12.04 | magyar | dpkg: denyhost |
| 02:12.13 | Azar | magyar: google: denyhosts |
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| 02:12.38 | magyar | Azar: is it as in allowhosts/denyhosts? |
| 02:13.04 | silensius | unity : i just search if a picture of mine is in theire website |
| 02:13.16 | Azar | magyar: I googled for you: http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:13.50 | Azar | magyar: I guess you can use apt-get to install it |
| 02:14.33 | elmo45 | Q: I have a comp with 2 cpu's, and no distro with 2.6.x boot it, but 2.4.x will. Any 'at boot' settings I can fiddle with? |
| 02:14.59 | Azar | magyar: http://www.howtoforge.com/preventing_ssh_dictionary_attacks_with_denyhosts |
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| 02:20.26 | magyar | Azar: i am on sarge, and pinning doesnt work because of lsb-dase, should i force it? |
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| 02:21.06 | elmo45 | ... don't force, get a larger hammer |
| 02:21.15 | BlutEngel | hy, can anyone help a newbie with a apt problem? |
| 02:21.29 | Money | everytime i want sound, i have to go into the terminal and type "modprobe snd-cs4236" and "alsamixer" then turn the volumes up, how od i just do it permanetly so i don't have to do it everytime i want sound, because if i don't do that it will say "no audio device found |
| 02:21.45 | BlutEngel | (i already googled, and the answes didint worked at all) |
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| 02:22.22 | Daedalus_ | BlutEngel, what's up? |
| 02:22.23 | BlutEngel | how do i fix broken downloads on apt? |
| 02:22.24 | magyar | elmo45: the easy button |
| 02:22.26 | moshii | Money: add it to /etc/modules |
| 02:22.39 | Daedalus_ | BlutEngel, broken downloads? |
| 02:22.43 | moshii | Money: or run the alsaconf script |
| 02:22.48 | Daedalus_ | BlutEngel, have you tried updating first? |
| 02:22.56 | magyar | anyone has a deb for denyhosts for sarge? |
| 02:23.01 | BlutEngel | sure, i did apt-get update |
| 02:23.07 | BlutEngel | then, apt-get install lilypond |
| 02:23.17 | BlutEngel | but the lilypond package was corrupted |
| 02:23.31 | BlutEngel | and the apt tryes to install, but fail. |
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| 02:23.34 | abrotman | apt-get -f install |
| 02:23.37 | BlutEngel | and now i cant install nothing. |
| 02:23.39 | BlutEngel | =/ |
| 02:23.46 | x-evian_ | ayudenmeeeeeeeeee |
| 02:23.53 | x-evian_ | hablan español no????? |
| 02:23.55 | Daedalus_ | BlutEngel, see abrotman's message: <abrotman> apt-get -f install |
| 02:24.00 | amphi | !es |
| 02:24.00 | Azar | magyar: I installed it as that tutorial showed me.. |
| 02:24.00 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:24.28 | magyar | Azar: thank you for your input |
| 02:25.08 | Azar | magyar: with pleasure and if you do not use sshd much (not server) you can also change the ssh port... |
| 02:25.09 | BlutEngel | i tryed this |
| 02:25.11 | x-evian_ | es que no quiero eso |
| 02:25.15 | BlutEngel | and didnt worked |
| 02:25.21 | elmo45 | so, no help with the dual CPU problem? |
| 02:25.28 | BlutEngel | the error is |
| 02:25.30 | BlutEngel | subprocesso pre-installation script retornou código de saÃda de error 1 |
| 02:25.31 | BlutEngel | Erros foram encontrados durante processamento de: |
| 02:25.31 | BlutEngel | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.31 | BlutEngel | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 02:25.32 | x-evian_ | lo que quiero es saber como agrego el server del irc-hispano |
| 02:25.35 | Azar | x-evian_: use el canal #debian-es |
| 02:25.41 | magyar | Azar: got it |
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| 02:26.48 | x-evian_ | ok |
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| 02:26.57 | BlutEngel | subprocess pre-installation script returned error code 1 |
| 02:26.57 | BlutEngel | error were found on processing the debian package: |
| 02:26.57 | BlutEngel | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.57 | BlutEngel | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 02:27.06 | abrotman | tard |
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| 02:27.33 | abrotman | BlutEngel: go to #ubuntu |
| 02:27.38 | BlutEngel | kay |
| 02:27.57 | Azar | .. breezy boy |
| 02:28.05 | Azar | s/boy/boi |
| 02:28.09 | Daedalus_ | abrotman: how'd you detect ubuntu? |
| 02:28.22 | Azar | Daedalus_: look at what he pasted |
| 02:28.28 | abrotman | Daedalus_: read what he pasted |
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| 02:29.05 | fmneto | good evening |
| 02:29.37 | Azar | sooner or later they get cought, either by this channel helpers or by a screwed up ubuntu |
| 02:29.42 | Daedalus_ | abrotman: I have, several times now. Perhaps there is something I'm missing? |
| 02:29.55 | Azar | Daedalus_: keyword: breezy |
| 02:30.01 | gravity | Daedalus_: Package version |
| 02:30.03 | abrotman | Daedalus_: debian has no such breezy release |
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| 02:30.55 | Daedalus_ | Azar: Uh, interesting. I didn't think to look at the version. Neat |
| 02:32.06 | Azar | I guess they think here people just don't want to help , they do not realize in their dumbness that advices from here don't match their system |
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| 02:33.32 | litage | why does the php4-pear package require php4-cli? |
| 02:34.55 | abrotman | to run the php4 stuff to install the pear packages? |
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| 02:35.12 | Azar | I guess some newbies should read this: http://www.linuxforums.org/reviews/overview_of_the_ten_major_linux_distributions.html |
| 02:35.24 | Azar | .. Debian is on top |
| 02:35.27 | Azar | :) |
| 02:35.38 | gravity | meh |
| 02:35.42 | gravity | It's not a glowing review |
| 02:35.51 | gravity | The glow is definitely for ubuntu in that stupid overview |
| 02:35.57 | Daedalus_ | Azar: way to be subtle, mate. ;) |
| 02:35.57 | Azar | I think they did a very nice picture of it |
| 02:36.00 | gravity | Although, to be fair, it's no worse than the usual review |
| 02:36.24 | Azar | gravity, come on, I felt that for the first time Debian is crowned |
| 02:36.29 | gravity | heh |
| 02:37.22 | Azar | gravity: the only negative comment was about being slow to release... is true but it is worth the wait |
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| 02:38.38 | Azar | I know other eh.. hmm ok other OS-es not to name anyone working for the past 4 years at a new release and keeps pushing the release date by months.... yet Debian Woody stood around only 3 years |
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| 02:41.35 | Azar | Daedalus_: and very modest: my desktop is a jewel |
| 02:42.55 | abrotman | you know what sucks .. when you sit through a movie you think you haven't seen .. but you actualyl have |
| 02:43.14 | Azar | seen what? the movie? |
| 02:43.31 | abrotman | yeah |
| 02:43.49 | Azar | I only see half of them, because I surf the channels all the time |
| 02:44.02 | maher | abrotman: you should sleep more when you're watching movies... |
| 02:44.14 | abrotman | maher: why? |
| 02:44.18 | bucky | your friends can tell you the same jokes over and over and you still laugh? |
| 02:44.30 | maher | abrotman: then you really wouldn't have seen it before... |
| 02:44.37 | Azar | oh no! wait I laughed at that one last week |
| 02:44.51 | abrotman | maher: oh .. gotcha |
| 02:45.26 | quik__ | what is the command for the baseconfig? |
| 02:45.39 | bucky | is there a factoid for udev wierdness? |
| 02:46.07 | abrotman | !listkeys udev |
| 02:46.08 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'udev' by key (15 of 20): #debian udev 2.6.12 ;; #debian udev usbkey ;; _default fresh udev config ;; _default fresh udev rules ;; _default udev 2.6.12 ;; _default udev rules ;; _default udev usbkey ;; be udev barbie ;; fresh udev config ;; udev ;; udev 2.6.12 ;; udev faq ;; udev nvidia ;; udev rules ;; udev usbkey. |
| 02:46.16 | abrotman | only 20 of them :) |
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| 02:46.33 | bucky | tnx |
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| 02:48.03 | acecase | hello |
| 02:48.45 | acecase | anyone know a good server I can use for gpg? wwwkeys.eu.gpg.net is refusing my connection |
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| 02:49.38 | Money | how do i make all the files in every window appear in a list, rather than editing each window one by one |
| 02:49.41 | abrotman | www.pgp.net ? |
| 02:49.53 | abrotman | Money: in WHAT? |
| 02:50.16 | Daedalus_ | !be udev barbie |
| 02:50.16 | dpkg | Having a /dev that works is HARD! |
| 02:50.20 | Azar | Money: window what? |
| 02:50.39 | acecase | abrotman: connection refused |
| 02:50.43 | Money | like if you open a folder, and there are the fiels, they are icons, i know how to make it apaer in a list, but i want every folder, or windows to be like that |
| 02:50.43 | abrotman | !udev usbkey |
| 02:50.44 | dpkg | methinks udev usbkey is plug your usb key in, then run dmesg, look for a line like this: Vendor: LEXAR Model: JUMPDRIVE SECURE Rev: 1000; then echo 'BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="JUMPDRIVE SECURE", NAME{all_partitions}="usbkey%n"' >> /etc/udev/rules.d/local.rules ; but substitute the the Model: string from dmesg into the SYSFS{model} parameter |
| 02:50.56 | abrotman | acecase: http://www.pgp.net/ ? .. works here |
| 02:51.14 | Azar | Money: please, stop using mswindows terms. Once you run Debian GNU/Linux use linux terms |
| 02:51.31 | gravity | wtf |
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| 02:51.43 | abrotman | i'd settle for a complete explaination of the problem |
| 02:51.46 | Azar | Money: you use : path, directory, files, terminals |
| 02:51.48 | gravity | Azar: There's nothing at all that he said that is windows-specific |
| 02:52.04 | Money | like in folder propteries, you can view it as either a list or icons, how do you make every directory orw haever be listed as icons |
| 02:52.09 | Azar | gravity: windows , icons and folders |
| 02:52.13 | RainbowW | I'd like to set up an email address where I can forward/send messages that SpamAssassin will read and learn from. is there an SA switch i can use procmail to pipe stuff to where SA will understand "this is spam"? |
| 02:52.16 | gravity | Azar: My Debian box has all of the above |
| 02:52.24 | gravity | Money: Are you running gnome? KDE? |
| 02:52.28 | gravity | Money: Or just at the console? |
| 02:52.28 | Money | gnome |
| 02:52.31 | Azar | oh, ok sorry, mine never had |
| 02:52.34 | bucky | !irritate Azar |
| 02:52.34 | dpkg | Azar: Y iz debain so old? who uses gnome !!!1 |
| 02:52.43 | Azar | :) |
| 02:52.47 | gravity | Money: On mine, open a window and go to the "view" menu |
| 02:52.49 | Daedalus_ | Money: Edit -> Preferences |
| 02:52.50 | gravity | Money: You can use that |
| 02:52.50 | Money | everone uses gnome |
| 02:52.53 | guore | i can't remember what i have done to cause the syslog to log the hdd temperture at regular intervals. i would like to turn it off? how to do that? |
| 02:52.58 | Azar | if I don't have I thought nobody has them |
| 02:53.07 | abrotman | Money: try Preferences |
| 02:53.34 | acecase | abrotman: thanks. that does work. I wasn't including http:// still not finding the key at the end of my NO_PUBKEY error :( |
| 02:53.44 | Azar | I moved to linux to learn/get/have something new : yes I found something different |
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| 02:53.57 | acecase | I should be using the last 8 digits rite? |
| 02:54.02 | gravity | Azar: That's fine. But don't bash people for asking the right question |
| 02:54.27 | Azar | gravity: sorry I thought he talks like that because he sticks with windows terms |
| 02:54.28 | Money | Daedalus, thanks :) |
| 02:54.33 | abrotman | acecase: key for what? |
| 02:54.39 | Daedalus_ | Money, np |
| 02:54.53 | acecase | abrotman: I will past my error in #flood ok? |
| 02:55.01 | Money | and how do i make it so when i clicka folder it just overtakes the window i was already in rather than creating a whole new wind |
| 02:55.07 | Money | window* |
| 02:55.44 | guore | no one knows how to turn off hdd temperature log? |
| 02:56.15 | abrotman | !apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 02:56.16 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 02:56.44 | acecase | thanks |
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| 02:57.14 | Daedalus_ | Money: mine stays in the same window. Though I know what you're talking about. I remember wondering the same thing. |
| 02:57.31 | abrotman | the option? |
| 02:57.34 | Money | yes, these are things i couldn't get in windowsxp either |
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| 02:57.40 | abrotman | oh .. it's a gconf setting |
| 02:57.47 | FKtPp | hi all pmount rocks~~ |
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| 02:58.51 | FKtPp | but, Is there anybuddy ever tried to delete unused device entires in the /dev/.statics/ directory? |
| 02:58.51 | acecase | abrotman: that got me fixed on both of em. you're a gentalman (i assume) and a scholar :) |
| 02:58.53 | Daedalus_ | Money: oh, it's kind of like using the browser instead of my computer. File -> Browse Folder |
| 02:59.02 | abrotman | acecase: don't let the secret out |
| 02:59.07 | unstable | FKtPp: Why would you want to do that? |
| 02:59.08 | acecase | :) |
| 02:59.09 | abrotman | acecase: enjoy :) |
| 02:59.16 | FKtPp | how can I remove them safely ? |
| 02:59.20 | Money | that option is disabled for me |
| 02:59.30 | gravity | Money: run gconf-editor. Navigate to apps/nautilus/preferences and set always_use_browser to 1 |
| 02:59.31 | unstable | FKtPp: Why would you want to do that? |
| 02:59.35 | acecase | have a good one. i have a long way to go and a short time to get there so i'm pulling the coord :) |
| 02:59.36 | acecase | gnight |
| 02:59.40 | abrotman | later |
| 02:59.50 | gravity | Money: That's got a checkbox in later versions than sarge, but in sarge you have to set it that way |
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| 02:59.56 | unstable | FKtPp: du -hs /dev, the whole directory is probably less then 200k, don't touch /dev don't delete anything. |
| 03:00.04 | FKtPp | my pc just have 8 useable partion, but the gnome-volume-manager recongine about 15s ... |
| 03:00.16 | Daedalus_ | Money: erk. you have to highlight the folder you wish to browse. Or you can right click the icon for your home directory on the desktop and select Browse |
| 03:00.23 | jshriver | How do I recover or rebuild the available file? |
| 03:00.36 | jshriver | I dont want to have to reinstall my system from scratch if I can help it |
| 03:00.47 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 03:00.47 | dpkg | well, tetrinet is probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 03:00.48 | Daedalus_ | Money: rather, follow gravity's instructions and you'll be set |
| 03:00.50 | FKtPp | It's borring to see unuseable dev in the gnome "my computer" |
| 03:00.52 | unstable | !tell FKtPp about qtparted |
| 03:01.06 | Money | ok |
| 03:01.08 | FKtPp | O? |
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| 03:01.27 | FKtPp | no |
| 03:01.30 | jshriver | I cp'd my status backedup as suggested from dpkg.. but available isnt available |
| 03:01.56 | abrotman | !status-recovery |
| 03:01.57 | dpkg | If your dpkg status file has become corrupted, first backup the current version, and restore a backup from /var/backups/dpkg.status. If all of those are corrupted/missing, then you will have to reinstall all of the packages you currently have installed. try this: find /usr/share/doc -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -type d -not -name texmf -not -name debian -printf '%f install\n'|dpkg --set-selections; apt-get dselect-upgrade; |
| 03:02.02 | abrotman | jshriver: that ? |
| 03:02.04 | Money | where is gconf editor located? i can't find it |
| 03:02.04 | jshriver | abrotman, I did that.. |
| 03:02.13 | abrotman | jshriver: you did the last command ? |
| 03:02.22 | jshriver | but when I find that find .. command it get's all of the files via download.. then it gives me the available message |
| 03:02.22 | FKtPp | I know how to part my harddisk, but the unuseable partion is 'infact' doesn't exist |
| 03:02.23 | Money | oh |
| 03:02.25 | Money | i found it |
| 03:02.42 | FKtPp | they are just old dev blocks. |
| 03:02.45 | jshriver | dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory |
| 03:02.59 | abrotman | wtf did you lose status and available ? |
| 03:03.06 | abrotman | rather .. htf |
| 03:03.11 | Money | what is the full name of gconf so i can run it through the action panel |
| 03:03.12 | jshriver | powr failure during an apt-get install install.. |
| 03:03.15 | FKtPp | my debian was upgrade from a sarge to sid |
| 03:03.16 | gravity | Money: Install it. It's a package. "gconf-editor" |
| 03:03.30 | abrotman | jshriver: will apt-get update run ? |
| 03:03.34 | jshriver | no |
| 03:03.42 | jshriver | yields same error as does upgrade |
| 03:03.46 | Money | gravity, oh, i thought debian came with gconf |
| 03:04.01 | Daedalus_ | Money: System Tools -> Configuration Editor |
| 03:04.02 | FKtPp | I just want to remove those unusabe devices in /dev/ |
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| 03:04.21 | jshriver | wait.. apt-get update get's the latest files , w/o error but when I try upgrade or that find ... string it still gives me that error |
| 03:04.21 | gravity | Money: Gnome does because it needs it, but the editor is separate |
| 03:04.27 | Money | ok |
| 03:04.27 | gravity | Most people don't need to use it |
| 03:04.34 | jshriver | I'm root |
| 03:04.50 | Daedalus_ | Money: whoops. was scrolled up in my irc buffer. stick with the other folks. Don't mind me. |
| 03:04.53 | abrotman | jshriver: so apt-get update .. works .. but the upgrade fails ? |
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| 03:04.57 | jshriver | yeah |
| 03:05.09 | abrotman | jshriver: so does that command from dpkg work now |
| 03:05.11 | abrotman | ;\ |
| 03:05.12 | abrotman | ? |
| 03:05.20 | jshriver | I hope I dont have to reinstall.. so trying to find a way of fixingit |
| 03:05.33 | jshriver | dpkg? or the find ... | dpkg? nope it doesnt work |
| 03:05.40 | abrotman | what's the error ? |
| 03:05.53 | jshriver | let me paste it in flood |
| 03:06.00 | Money | alright, i got it, thanks |
| 03:06.10 | Money | so gconf is something like reg editor in windows |
| 03:06.12 | Money | nice |
| 03:06.15 | unstable | !gconf |
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| 03:06.34 | FKtPp | unstable: could you tell my the minimal set of /dev/ entries debian needed before the udev could be loaded? |
| 03:06.44 | cougar` | Hello all. On my secondary drive using xfs file system, I'm getting an Input/Output error. Any advice on how to diagnose and fix problem? |
| 03:06.49 | unstable | !gconf |
| 03:06.49 | dpkg | i heard gconf is a system used by the GNOME desktop environment for storing configuration settings for the desktop and applications. Changes to this system are controlled by GConfd, a daemon. GConfd watches out for changes to the database, and when they are changed, it applies the new settings to applications using it. This technology is known as "auto-apply", compared to "explicit-apply", which requires users to press an OK or Apply button to make changes |
| 03:07.04 | unstable | !tell cougar` about xfs |
| 03:07.05 | Money | damn, i need a new mouse really bad |
| 03:07.06 | unstable | cougar`: /join #xfs |
| 03:07.18 | Money | i think i'll steal one from school tommorow |
| 03:07.27 | Money | they have really good ones |
| 03:07.30 | jshriver | other than dpkg/apt my system seems to run fine.. just cant install anythign new or do updates... |
| 03:07.38 | Dewi | given a particular file, in my case '/usr/bin/pg_dump', how can I look up what package it belongs to? |
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| 03:07.57 | magyar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.59 | FKtPp | Dewi: dpkg -S that file |
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| 03:08.44 | Daedalus_ | Bone: dude, buy your own darned mouse. |
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| 03:08.47 | cougar` | Unstable : That told me nothing I did not know. Gee, umm, thanks. |
| 03:09.13 | Daedalus_ | s/darned/damn |
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| 03:10.42 | Azar | magyar: if you installed and configured denyhosts, you can see all denied connections in /var/log/auth.log and in /var/log/denyhosts and in /etc/hosts.deny |
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| 03:10.43 | Daedalus_ | cougar`: knowing nothing about xfs, and a bit about hardrives in general, I'd recommend you make backups fast, or keep the backups you have close at hand... I would guess a failing drive... |
| 03:10.56 | orn | hey |
| 03:11.05 | pipeline | cougar`: Care to repeat your issue? :P |
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| 03:11.30 | Dewi | FKtPp: thank you! |
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| 03:11.51 | cougar` | Daedalus : Well it's on a secondary drive and there is hardly any data on there, but I'm about to try xfs_repair |
| 03:11.52 | orn | i installed a deb file where the deps were deprecated, so i used --ignore-missing. The thing I installed works fine, but now apt complains about missing dependency and refuses to do anything. How can I make it ignore this dep? |
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| 03:11.58 | cougar` | pipeline: On my secondary drive using xfs file system, I'm getting an Input/Output error. Any advice on how to diagnose and fix problem? |
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| 03:12.14 | cougar` | I so forget how to determine the dev name... grrr |
| 03:12.18 | nite613_ | I'm getting an error "HOME should be defined" trying to install nessusd on sarge |
| 03:12.24 | pipeline | cougar`: Uh, yeah. That's usually hardware failure. |
| 03:12.37 | pipeline | nite613_: $HOME, the variable, should have a value. Does it? :P |
| 03:13.09 | pipeline | cougar`: Another possibility is that the filesystem is damaged in some way, and as a result, rejects write requests. |
| 03:13.28 | pipeline | cougar`: Keep in mind that "damage" could be something as trivial as having completely filled the volume |
| 03:13.29 | nite613_ | pipeline: Yes, but I'm issuing "sudo apt-get install nessusd", perhaps the sudo is in the way... |
| 03:13.39 | cougar` | rgr Pipeline... understood |
| 03:13.53 | pipeline | cougar`: I suggest you bring the system down right away and use xfs_check from a rescue CD to see what's going on (assuming this is a critical volume) |
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| 03:14.12 | pipeline | cougar`: If you just filled the volume, you'll have to do an xfs_repair with the option to delete the log |
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| 03:14.27 | Bone | if i want a file to be nonhidden, i just delete the period pff the name right? |
| 03:14.30 | Bone | off* |
| 03:14.37 | pilgrim | I want a book on debian system adiminstration. Not on running a debian desktop. What do you suggest? |
| 03:14.38 | pipeline | cougar`: You see, when you write more data than the filesystem can hold, the XFS driver will continue to accept your write requests until there isn't a single byte left -- including space in the journal. |
| 03:14.52 | orn | E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). |
| 03:14.56 | pipeline | cougar`: When there's zero bytes left on disk, the xfs driver will keep accepting write requests until it runs out of room in the journal! |
| 03:15.18 | pipeline | cougar`: It's "fault tolerant" in an extremely useless way :P |
| 03:15.30 | pipeline | cougar`: Of course, it's more likely that you've run into hardware failure. |
| 03:15.52 | cougar` | pipeline: Thanks bro |
| 03:16.00 | cougar` | Gonna check it out now... |
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| 03:16.44 | pipeline | cougar`: it's easy to figure out if you've run out fo space -- run df -h |
| 03:16.50 | cougar` | No no, not that |
| 03:16.54 | cougar` | I think the drive died |
| 03:17.00 | orn | Nobody here that can help me with my apt problem? |
| 03:17.01 | cougar` | Cause, xfs_rapir says fatal error |
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| 03:17.41 | pipeline | cougar`: xfs_check needs to be run before xfs_repair, mind you |
| 03:17.58 | cougar` | Ahhhh oops |
| 03:18.07 | pipeline | cougar`: Also, if you suspect the drive is dead, use dd_rescue to copy the volume bit for bit onto a new drive before running xfs_check or xfs_repair. |
| 03:18.13 | cougar` | Says can not read first 512 bytes |
| 03:18.22 | pipeline | cougar`: If the hardware itself is broken, you're only going to damage the data more by trying to use it :\ |
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| 03:18.39 | cougar` | Well both check and repair have failed immedately |
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| 03:19.14 | cougar` | Umm, no idea how to uys edd_rescue |
| 03:19.15 | insidius | how do i check the size of a file in debian? |
| 03:19.33 | maher | insidius: ls -l |
| 03:19.38 | maher | insidius: ls -lh |
| 03:19.55 | pipeline | insidius: du -hs |
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| 03:20.24 | pipeline | jshriver: No kowtows! |
| 03:21.05 | flaco | hi.... if i have the acpi_ibm=m in the kernel... how can i activate that module? |
| 03:21.18 | abrotman | modconf/modprobe |
| 03:21.59 | Daedalus_ | flaco: eg: modprobe acpi_ibm (if indeed that's the module name) |
| 03:22.23 | flaco | thks |
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| 03:24.44 | cougar` | pipeline: How do I use dd_Rescue? |
| 03:24.47 | jshriver | have a gnome question.. what program or piece of gnome handles the truncated windows at the bottom of the screen and how do I enable that? |
| 03:25.12 | pipeline | jshriver: truncated windows? uh, gnome-panel ? |
| 03:25.22 | pipeline | cougar`: dd_rescue has its own man page |
| 03:25.28 | zophyx_ | anyone know where i can get some great bill gates wall posters ? |
| 03:25.36 | jshriver | that might be it.. how do I enable it.. or run it? |
| 03:26.03 | bucky | zophyx_: oh yeah.. like we'd know! |
| 03:26.45 | jshriver | just tried running "gnome-panel" from bash, and it says it's already running, but when I minimize a window it completely disappears.. have to alt-tab to get back to it.. |
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| 03:26.51 | pipeline | zophyx_: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=272750&st=0 |
| 03:26.53 | jshriver | there's no hrm,.. minimize tray |
| 03:27.12 | pipeline | zophyx_: http://pro.corbis.com/popup/Enlargement.aspx?mediauids={ea3007d9-5483-4079-a68f-e97e227bdf0e}|{ffffffff-ffff-ffff-ffff-ffffffffffff}&qsPageNo=1&fdid=&Area=Search&TotalCount=40&CurrentPos=2&WinID={ea3007d9-5483-4079-a68f-e97e227bdf0e} |
| 03:27.22 | gravity | geez |
| 03:27.28 | pipeline | jshriver: oh, you don't have a window list? |
| 03:27.32 | Daedalus_ | jshriver: right click on the bar: Add to Panel... Window Selector |
| 03:27.51 | pipeline | Daedalus_: Nah, that's not it |
| 03:28.05 | pipeline | jshriver: You probably want the "window list" applet. That's what does the taskbar thing. |
| 03:28.08 | Daedalus_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.11 | jshriver | 'k |
| 03:28.17 | Daedalus_ | pipeline: good catch |
| 03:28.21 | jshriver | I'm not that familiar with gnome.. |
| 03:28.30 | pipeline | jshriver: when in doubt, right click. :\ |
| 03:28.34 | jshriver | yup that's it :) |
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| 03:32.01 | Dewi | I want the .deb for this package |
| 03:32.02 | Dewi | http://packages.debian.org/stable/misc/postgresql-client |
| 03:32.13 | Dewi | but I cannot find it |
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| 03:32.30 | Dewi | how do I locate the .deb? |
| 03:32.42 | Dewi | wandering through /pool isn't finding it |
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| 03:33.37 | nemontemi | Why I can't download recursivelly a site with wget? Wget downloads index.html then robots.txt and stops, I read this file, and seems to have rules to user-agent wget to deny downloads in /. Is that correct? |
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| 03:34.14 | Dewi | oh, found it. finally. |
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| 03:34.35 | Dewi | nemontemi: wget obeys the robots exclusion protocol |
| 03:34.48 | Dewi | nemontemi: it sounds like that site is configured to disallow robots |
| 03:35.32 | Jacobo221 | how is it that this disk has 0-bytes left in space? "/dev/hdb1 1k-block: 57694324 Used: 54940564 Available: 0 Use: 100% /mnt/temp" it is an ext3. and how can I fix it? |
| 03:36.44 | nemontemi | Dewi: ah, as I thought. Thanks! |
| 03:36.49 | pipeline | nemontemi, Dewi: wget only optionally obeys robots.txt |
| 03:36.49 | malder | Knoppix mounts all my drives automatically, so I copiesd fstab from knoppix over to my debian install, created mount points and am getting the error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb6, |
| 03:36.51 | malder | missing codepage or other error |
| 03:36.54 | flaco | how can i know the exact name of a module? |
| 03:37.18 | pipeline | malder: You're barking up the wrong tree. |
| 03:37.29 | pipeline | malder: And setting up an automount daemon isn't really that easy |
| 03:37.41 | malder | pipeline: which tree do I need to bark up? |
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| 03:38.32 | nemontemi | pipeline: who can I get around it? |
| 03:38.50 | malder | pipeline: I'm not interested in an automount daemon right now, just with getting these drives mounted, which is becoming an impossible chore.... |
| 03:39.01 | nemontemi | changing user-agent used by wget? |
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| 03:39.43 | Jacobo221 | why doesn't gnome console nor xterm nor... show the euro symbol while any other X app does? |
| 03:40.47 | pipeline | malder: Heh, just getting the drives mounted is a lot easier. The "mount" command is what you want. "mount", then the filesystem type (e.g. "-t ntfs"), then the device (e.g. "/dev/hdb6"), then the mount point (e.g. "/mnt") |
| 03:41.01 | pipeline | nemontemi: read the man page |
| 03:41.39 | Noboru | chinese made CPU will be out in the June for commerical purposes |
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| 03:42.11 | Noboru | it runs on 1Ghz and it performances as much as a Pentium 2.0Ghz or so,they claim this |
| 03:42.29 | foo | Does apache respect .htaccess by default on debian sarge? Hmm. I have my .htaccess tell apache to parse jpg files as php files but the php is not being parsed at all for some reason. The apache error log says nothing relevant. Any ideas? |
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| 03:45.17 | malder | pipeline: GAH! why is it always the simple things that foul me up. The tut that I was reading has the fs type at the end. Thanks. |
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| 03:45.43 | Money | whats the best media player for debian/gnome? |
| 03:45.46 | malder | What is your favorite ftp client? |
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| 03:47.24 | gravity | Money: For what kind of media? |
| 03:47.25 | Doughbwoy | money , xine/vlc |
| 03:47.32 | Doughbwoy | malder, kasablanca |
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| 03:48.16 | gravity | totem for movies is great (use the xine backend). For music that's debateable. I love quodlibet myself, but rhythmbox is popular |
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| 03:48.41 | Money | like movies and music, rythmbox is acting fouled up, so whats the best alternative |
| 03:48.48 | Doughbwoy | for music: audacious and xmms |
| 03:48.48 | Doughbwoy | ;) |
| 03:49.00 | gravity | Money: Try quodlibet for music. Totem for movies. |
| 03:49.11 | gravity | Both are gnome apps |
| 03:49.14 | Money | well, i wanted something forboth but alright |
| 03:49.54 | simonrvn | gravity: hi |
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| 03:50.04 | gravity | totem will play both, but it's a less than ideal app for music in comparison to a dedicated music player |
| 03:50.07 | gravity | simonrvn: Hiya |
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| 03:51.05 | simonrvn | oh fuck, i got practice tomorrow :) |
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| 03:52.46 | hja123 | how to set up the system to monitor hardware parameters and log it? |
| 03:53.31 | malder | is there a reason that I can't change permissions for files/folders in an ntfs partition? |
| 03:54.54 | hja123 | where is everybody? |
| 03:55.46 | hja123 | anyone knows about hardware monitoring? |
| 03:56.39 | hja123 | anyone? |
| 03:56.49 | malder | not I |
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| 03:57.20 | hja123 | malder: seems like v r the only 2 guys still awake. |
| 03:57.34 | ajaychahar | hi there guys!!! |
| 03:57.57 | hja123 | ajaychahar: hi, u r awake too. |
| 03:58.57 | hja123 | even that dumb bot 'unstable' is asleep. it does not object to the use of "anyone". hehe. |
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| 03:59.28 | ajaychahar | why do we use Debian? |
| 03:59.45 | gravity | Because it's awesome |
| 03:59.46 | dondelelcaro | !why debian |
| 03:59.46 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 03:59.49 | Daedalus_ | hja123: would you mind repeating your question? |
| 03:59.58 | hja123 | becos v r dumb, it is dumbian. |
| 03:59.58 | ajaychahar | and what is better in Debian as compared to Gentoo? |
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| 04:00.09 | dbw | the new TUX has a distro smackdown, in which debian did poorly |
| 04:00.23 | gravity | ajaychahar: Ask ##linux |
| 04:00.32 | dbw | however, they had different people review each distro, which totally ruins their credibility... |
| 04:00.37 | elmo45 | nice room. lata |
| 04:01.20 | Red_Cloud | I have just installed the asr-manpages package. This is quite humorous. How does one remember all of the various manpages contained in this install? I would like to re-read them from time to time but have no mental capacity to recall their names. |
| 04:01.36 | dondelelcaro | Red_Cloud: apropos; will help you with that... |
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| 04:02.41 | doub | hi there |
| 04:03.03 | Daedalus_ | dondelelcaro: you have that covered in priv? |
| 04:03.08 | Daedalus_ | doub: howdy |
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| 04:03.27 | dondelelcaro | Daedalus_: ? |
| 04:03.36 | Daedalus_ | <dondelelcaro^ apropos; will help you with that... |
| 04:03.48 | dondelelcaro | Daedalus_: what about it? |
| 04:04.24 | dondelelcaro | Daedalus_: apropos is a command. run apropos apt; for an example. |
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| 04:05.10 | Daedalus_ | dondelelcaro: interesting. Learn something new every day |
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| 04:05.27 | Red_Cloud | Well, I ran apropos asr and the result was: asr: nothing appropriate |
| 04:05.43 | \amethyst | Red_Cloud: dpkg -L asr-manpages to list the contents |
| 04:05.45 | netdaemon | if one of you fine gents can help me, i'd appreciate it greatly =) |
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| 04:06.01 | dondelelcaro | netdaemon: just ask your question |
| 04:06.02 | Daedalus_ | Red_Cloud: alternatively, you can find your package in synaptic, right click -> Properties... Select the Installed Files tab |
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| 04:06.24 | netdaemon | i'm using debian etch...fresh install and in aterm, instead of displaying lines like in giftcurs, it displays funny characters |
| 04:06.32 | netdaemon | it seems to do this with some characters in manpages too |
| 04:06.39 | Red_Cloud | Daedalus, what I have been doing is looking at the installed files and man reading them |
| 04:06.43 | netdaemon | is there any way to solve this issue? i'v never had this prob before |
| 04:06.46 | dbw | netdaemon: change your locale to a UTF locale |
| 04:06.57 | dbw | netdaemon: i had the same problem when i switched to debian |
| 04:07.10 | netdaemon | ty very much =) |
| 04:07.11 | Money | whats a real good MUA for linux/unix? |
| 04:07.24 | dbw | mua? |
| 04:07.25 | netdaemon | actually...it is a UTF locale |
| 04:07.28 | netdaemon | .... |
| 04:07.34 | Daedalus_ | Red_Cloud: this will display only the files installed by that package. |
| 04:07.35 | streuner_ | !mua |
| 04:07.36 | dpkg | it has been said that mua is a mail user agent, in other words mutt, balsa, pine, elm or any other mail client program. |
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| 04:07.49 | pmallapp | hi, |
| 04:07.50 | Money | Mail User Agenta |
| 04:07.53 | Money | Agents* |
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| 04:08.13 | pmallapp | is there any way i do a setuid to a shell script |
| 04:08.31 | netdaemon | it seems to only do this in aterm, everything is fine in xterm it seems, other than the display bein ga little off |
| 04:08.37 | maher | pmallapp: short answer no - longer answer there are ways to do it if you must... |
| 04:08.37 | netdaemon | would it have anything to do with dialogue? |
| 04:08.48 | Money | whats the est MUA or whats a really good one |
| 04:09.00 | streuner_ | sylpheed |
| 04:09.02 | pmallapp | maher, please throw some light on the longer answer :) |
| 04:09.03 | streuner_ | mutt |
| 04:09.29 | Daedalus_ | netdaemon: perhaps change back to a non UTF locale. I have a few apps that claim UTF support is broken in linux (though I'm not sure how much I believe that), and thus require that you remove the _UTF from your locale env var. |
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| 04:10.21 | Money | i think i'll try elm, its command line MUA |
| 04:10.24 | netdaemon | 8859-1 or 8859-15? |
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| 04:10.37 | Daedalus_ | Money: there are many. Mutt, elm, and pine are all command line |
| 04:11.05 | Daedalus_ | Money: ncurses/command line.... whatever |
| 04:11.29 | Daedalus_ | netdaemon: -1 I believe. |
| 04:11.31 | oldfart | pmallapp, usually you have to include a certain flag on the #! line to get shell scripts to obey the suid bit. |
| 04:11.35 | Money | which one is the easiest to ue, out of the command line MUA's |
| 04:11.46 | dbw | netdaemon: shmm, im' sorry |
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| 04:12.06 | netdaemon | dbw? |
| 04:12.08 | dondelelcaro | Money: you're best of learning mutt, and using it... |
| 04:12.12 | dbw | netdaemon: run "echo $LOCALE" |
| 04:12.15 | Money | alright |
| 04:12.16 | dbw | oops |
| 04:12.17 | dbw | sorry |
| 04:12.19 | dbw | "echo $LANG" |
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| 04:12.34 | dondelelcaro | Money: there's really only two choices for command line MUAs. (indeed, for MUAs in general) It's either mutt or GNUs. |
| 04:12.42 | netdaemon | i'v changed it already dbw |
| 04:12.49 | dbw | huh |
| 04:12.58 | dbw | not helping, eh? |
| 04:13.03 | netdaemon | en_US |
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| 04:13.19 | netdaemon | changing it to iso seems to have helped |
| 04:13.23 | netdaemon | thanks much all =) |
| 04:13.25 | dbw | mine is "en_US.UTF-8" and that works... |
| 04:13.27 | cricket_ | how do i get that penguin to shower up while booting |
| 04:13.29 | dbw | strange |
| 04:13.39 | dbw | maybe aterm is weird, anyway, glad it works :) |
| 04:13.42 | netdaemon | aptitude also had some problems so i just ran it and it seems good |
| 04:13.43 | netdaemon | lol |
| 04:14.02 | maher | pmallapp: try perl |
| 04:14.08 | dbw | the nice thing about standards is there are so many of them... |
| 04:14.10 | netdaemon | now to look at the aterm manpage and see if the characters in it are funny.... |
| 04:14.32 | netdaemon | yep that did the trick |
| 04:14.33 | streuner_ | cricket: there is animated lilo, you could create one before the boot-process :-) |
| 04:15.11 | dbw | did anyone else's GDM login screen change after their last dist-upgrade? |
| 04:15.37 | dbw | cricket_: it's a kernel feature, you probably have to compile your own |
| 04:15.48 | streuner_ | well, can't you change that? |
| 04:15.59 | dbw | streuner_: not without recompiling the kernel |
| 04:16.21 | streuner_ | heh |
| 04:16.30 | pmallapp | maher, i am a perl illeterate, i need this to do a simple job of setting date to some known date -> launch app -> background it -> set the date back -> |
| 04:16.36 | Daedalus_ | dbw: sure. It's a rotating thing now. Fresh look every time. |
| 04:16.46 | streuner_ | you are talking about gdm (GNOME Display Manager) right? |
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| 04:17.15 | k-god | pmallapp: date -d 'datespec' as root will do it. |
| 04:17.16 | dbw | yeah |
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| 04:17.23 | k-god | pmallapp: eg: date -d 'apr 1 2000 |
| 04:17.26 | maher | pmallapp: why not write a scipt that runs as root but runs the ap as the user? |
| 04:17.46 | k-god | pmallapp: ... with appropriate quotes. No timespec => midnight. |
| 04:18.09 | k-god | pmallapp: ... *or* you could run a UML environment with an invalid timespec and run stuff in there via SSH. |
| 04:18.12 | endeavormac | are there plans for supporting [Airport Extreme|Broadcom 43xx series chipset] in the next release of Debian? |
| 04:18.13 | Daedalus_ | streuner_: yeah |
| 04:19.27 | pmallapp | maher, k-god, i am trying sudo date 'apr 1 2000 .. let me see if i can get it |
| 04:19.38 | endeavormac | nevermind, i can see packages in unstable |
| 04:19.42 | streuner_ | Daedalus_: so what has gdm with the kernel to do? |
| 04:19.43 | k-god | The best part was correctly diagnosing the problem from what I could see of it (missing Usenet posts...). |
| 04:19.53 | OliverKlozoff | haha |
| 04:20.15 | OliverKlozoff | Easier to pull out IDA and just patch the app |
| 04:20.33 | Money | so for mutt, yo u will have to originally write the message in a text editor and not the prompt...dang that sucks |
| 04:21.24 | maher | Money: ? you could just use mail i guess - most people like to compose their mail in an editor of some sort... |
| 04:22.09 | Money | well, i wanted somethig where i just use the prompt to send my messages and stuff, but i guess there is nothing like that |
| 04:22.26 | maher | Money: man mail |
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| 04:22.36 | pmallapp | maher, my sudo doesnt seems to do efficiently, "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr xxxxxxxx" |
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| 04:23.22 | maher | pmallapp: write a shell script, then run the shell script as root - i.e. su and then run it |
| 04:23.29 | Money | ahh, ok |
| 04:23.38 | Money | so its safe to remove mutt then, i won't be using it |
| 04:23.50 | pmallapp | maher, thanks |
| 04:23.59 | Daedalus_ | streuner_: I think we're talking about two different threads.nm |
| 04:24.17 | streuner_ | there is some folder where you could just change *.png in order to change GDM's login screen |
| 04:24.36 | streuner_ | Daedalus: it seems so, just switched into channel |
| 04:24.41 | maher | Money: yes- mutt runs the default editor anyway... |
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| 04:25.58 | Money | maher: so i can remove it, ok |
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| 04:28.29 | Money | maher: what is the address of my mail? like when people want to send mail to me what is my mail name or whatever or the name people will email |
| 04:29.15 | Money | in my terminal , it says avont@debian, is that what they will use? |
| 04:29.18 | maher | Money: you need some sort of email account |
| 04:29.27 | Money | oh, ok |
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| 04:29.43 | k-god | Money: You'd need either an ISP mail account or a domain name of your own. |
| 04:29.44 | Money | i wanted somethink like "avont@undergroundlinux |
| 04:29.57 | k-god | Money: Though technically delivery to an IP address would also work. |
| 04:30.19 | Money | avont@undergroundlinux.net i like that, how can i get that domain name |
| 04:30.46 | k-god | Money: 'whois undergroundlinux.net' Check if it's registered. If not, any public domain registry. Eg: Rahul.net |
| 04:30.54 | streuner_ | Money: didn't we tell you that before? |
| 04:30.58 | k-god | ... I think. |
| 04:31.12 | Money | this is something differnet streuner |
| 04:31.47 | Money | no, its not registered |
| 04:32.16 | Money | well, i have a gmail account, avont29@gmail.com can i use that |
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| 04:33.42 | k-god | Money: I don't know that Gmail supports standard protocols. |
| 04:34.08 | gravity | I think it does do pop |
| 04:34.12 | gravity | Not sure about smtp though |
| 04:34.20 | k-god | Money: In general, you need an outbound SMTP smarthost, and either a relay, or download protocol (POP, IMAP) to be able to get the mail. |
| 04:34.21 | streuner_ | mostly an commericial issue |
| 04:34.39 | k-god | Money: Check gmail's TOS. |
| 04:35.11 | Doughbwoy | Tagline: From the director of [Pi] |
| 04:35.14 | Doughbwoy | awesome.. |
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| 04:35.33 | k-god | Doughbwoy: ?? |
| 04:35.39 | Doughbwoy | http://www.google.de/ig?hl=de |
| 04:35.42 | Doughbwoy | ups |
| 04:35.51 | Doughbwoy | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138704/ <- this one, Pi |
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| 04:36.05 | Doughbwoy | oldschool hacker/mathematics/conspiracy movie |
| 04:36.21 | Doughbwoy | Plot Outline: A paranoid mathematician searches for a key number that will unlock the universal patterns found in nature. |
| 04:37.21 | maher | Doughbwoy: it was 42 |
| 04:37.29 | k-god | maher: Score. |
| 04:37.49 | Doughbwoy | uh wrong chan lol |
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| 04:38.02 | Money | alright, but since my terminal says "avont@debian" can they use that? or what can they use? only my IP |
| 04:38.05 | sess | how does one disconnect a TTY session ? |
| 04:38.06 | Daedalus_ | Doughbwoy: fun fact: the film crew didn't have a license to shoot in the NY subway, and when they got approached by the cops, they got asked if they were with the crew of some major film that was shooting just down the block. They said yes. |
| 04:38.10 | sess | i can only seem to find scripts |
| 04:38.15 | Daedalus_ | Now if only I could remember the other film |
| 04:38.19 | sess | i would like to know the standalone cmd for it. |
| 04:38.20 | Doughbwoy | muahaa |
| 04:38.21 | sess | any idea's guys ? |
| 04:38.29 | k-god | sess: Invoke via 'screen'. |
| 04:38.39 | ansong | damn, i think somebody hacked ratm.com |
| 04:38.40 | maher | sess: screen |
| 04:39.23 | sess | maher: not using screen |
| 04:40.00 | maher | sess: well i don't think you can do it without screen |
| 04:40.16 | k-god | sess: Sucks to be you. Start using it. |
| 04:40.57 | sess | maher: ofcourse you can do it, lol. |
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| 04:41.18 | sess | if you want to disconnect someone from their TTY session |
| 04:41.20 | sess | i've done it before |
| 04:41.23 | sess | just bloody ages ago |
| 04:41.47 | Money | k-god: if i get my own domain name at dot.tk, how do i use that for my account on "mail" |
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| 04:41.52 | sess | kill -option TTYsession name |
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| 04:42.02 | k-god | sess: If you're a sysadmin: slay. If you need to kill the process associated with a file (including device files): man fuser. |
| 04:42.04 | maher | sess: sorry - i thought you meant disconnect with some chance of reconnecting... |
| 04:42.24 | k-god | Money: Set up DNS, an MX record, and a mailserver at same. |
| 04:42.40 | k-god | Money: Seriously, this is shit you can Google yourself. |
| 04:42.56 | Money | im such a noob, i'll stick to gmail |
| 04:42.58 | maher | Money: a registrar like uk2.net can just forward all the mail to your gmail account... |
| 04:43.21 | maher | Money: that's a good idea - stick withgmail for a bit... |
| 04:43.26 | Money | why doesn't evolution work for me? i can't get it to work |
| 04:43.31 | gravity | When you want to learn it, devote some time to reading about it |
| 04:43.35 | Money | i mean i set it up |
| 04:43.51 | k-god | !tell Money about doesn't work |
| 04:43.58 | k-god | !tell Money about smart questions |
| 04:44.06 | maher | gravity: i'm living proof you can set up your dns and mx by trial and error... |
| 04:44.09 | gravity | heh |
| 04:44.13 | gravity | maher: I've still never done it |
| 04:44.24 | gravity | I bought a domain a little over a year ago, and let it lapse without setting it up |
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| 04:44.50 | maher | gravity: its like changing your own oil but without the dirt under your fingernails |
| 04:45.05 | streuner_ | Asking questions about mail is *HARD* these days (SPAM) |
| 04:45.07 | gravity | \o/ |
| 04:45.12 | AdrenaliN1983 | Hi there, Im using a msi mainbord and Amd xp1800+ processor ... can someone please tell me what dist of Debian I should use ? |
| 04:45.18 | sess | k-god: need to disconnect a TTY session that i created from another connection |
| 04:45.28 | k-god | streuner_: No kidding. I was just going to make that point. |
| 04:45.29 | gravity | I got some great spam today with the subject being "graviton sex! Your life will never be the same!" |
| 04:45.30 | maher | sess: just kill the ps's |
| 04:45.35 | gravity | I had a little giggle |
| 04:45.39 | gravity | Just a little one though |
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| 04:45.55 | maher | AdrenaliN1983: use stable==sarge |
| 04:46.01 | streuner_ | k-god: i don't expect to teach people setting up mail server ... |
| 04:46.04 | k-god | Money: The hard part is dealing with both inbound and outbound (if you've got any users / 'Doze boxes) spam. |
| 04:46.09 | AdrenaliN1983 | Thank you :) |
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| 04:46.26 | k-god | streuner_: Me neither, hence my suggestion that Money Google. |
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| 04:48.52 | sess | maher: if i kill the ps's will it not still leave the PID running ? |
| 04:49.10 | maher | sess if you kill the process it should kill the process.... |
| 04:49.15 | k-god | sess: ?? |
| 04:49.36 | k-god | sess: If it's not dead, you didn't kill it, unless it's zombied, in which case it's already dead. |
| 04:49.46 | sess | hmmm |
| 04:49.47 | k-god | sess: WTF are you doing and WTF happened? |
| 04:49.52 | sess | how do i list the PID ? |
| 04:49.55 | Red_Cloud | I would like to ask for recommendations for a whois package that you feel is superior to others whois clients. |
| 04:50.00 | sess | instead of the process name |
| 04:50.09 | LordNazgul | sess ps -e |
| 04:50.13 | k-god | sess: ps aux |
| 04:50.47 | k-god | Red_Cloud: standard whois is fine. I run jwhois (a caching client) for a reporting script. It's faster but buggier. |
| 04:51.02 | sess | hmmm, nope there must be another way |
| 04:51.08 | k-god | Red_Cloud: Better how? |
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| 04:51.24 | sess | seriously if i was to disconnect a user are you telling me i have kill like 3 PID's to disconnect a user |
| 04:51.25 | k-god | sess: show us what you're doing and what's happening. |
| 04:51.26 | LordNazgul | sess another way to what? |
| 04:51.30 | Ashex | what's the name of the package that contains all the neccessary dev tools? |
| 04:51.33 | k-god | sess: /msg dpkg paster. |
| 04:51.33 | Ashex | !dev |
| 04:51.35 | Red_Cloud | k-god, faster |
| 04:51.40 | k-god | Ashex: No such thing. |
| 04:51.40 | maher | sess: killall user will kill everything run by user |
| 04:51.46 | sess | you can kill a TTY session |
| 04:51.47 | streuner_ | !b-e Ashex |
| 04:51.47 | dpkg | Ashex: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 04:51.49 | sess | i've done it before |
| 04:51.52 | sess | hmmmmmmm |
| 04:51.53 | Ashex | k-god: there is |
| 04:52.08 | darkfires | sess do a pstree |
| 04:52.11 | Ashex | thanks streuner_ |
| 04:52.20 | k-god | Ashex: There's a gazillion dev packages. There isn't "all dev tools". |
| 04:52.25 | maher | sess: just kill the login shell |
| 04:52.47 | darkfires | sess, do a pstree -p, and find the parent pid of the user's session that u want to kill |
| 04:52.48 | sess | man pstreeeeeeeeee hahaha |
| 04:52.52 | Ashex | k-god, I said the neccessary ones. I meant the ones that are required for doing most anything. The base tools you could say |
| 04:52.53 | sess | have not used that for about a year |
| 04:52.56 | sess | bloody handy |
| 04:53.07 | sess | ta |
| 04:53.15 | darkfires | oh baby u know just how i like it |
| 04:53.18 | sess | parent pid |
| 04:53.21 | k-god | sess: Note you should be doing this as root. If you can't 'kill <pid>' then try 'kill -9 <pid>' If you can't do that, you may have yourself a rootkit. I say again: what are you trying to do and what is happening? |
| 04:53.22 | sess | is what i was looking for :P |
| 04:53.32 | streuner_ | Ashex: build-essential just make sure you are able to compile basic stuff... |
| 04:53.47 | k-god | Ashex: ^^ what streuner_ said. |
| 04:53.50 | Ashex | streuner_: that's what I was looking for |
| 04:53.52 | sess | k-god: no point killing a users session if it won't remove their Parent PID |
| 04:54.01 | sess | pstree -p is what i was after |
| 04:54.10 | Money | whats a good mail account to apply for, other than gmail, linux and yahoo |
| 04:54.15 | sess | now darkfires; how can i kill a TTY session |
| 04:54.18 | sess | there was a bash cmd for this |
| 04:54.20 | Money | scratch linux, i meant hotmail |
| 04:54.20 | sess | one simple cmd |
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| 04:54.46 | darkfires | current tty session? |
| 04:54.53 | k-god | sess: fuser -k /dev/ptyNN |
| 04:55.08 | sess | hmmmm |
| 04:55.15 | darkfires | kill -9 $$ ? |
| 04:58.06 | Money | what are some good mail accounts other than gmail, hotmail, and yahoo, i needone fore business |
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| 04:58.20 | k-god | !tell Money about repeat |
| 04:58.21 | sess | w00000000000000000t |
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| 04:58.31 | simonrvn | 127.0.0.1 |
| 04:58.34 | sess | err i ment a mickey :p |
| 04:58.35 | sess | hehe |
| 04:58.39 | sess | ty |
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| 04:58.48 | streuner_ | simonrvn: o_O |
| 04:58.54 | attabui | which version of gnome is in the repos? |
| 04:58.55 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 04:58.58 | k-god | sess: What worked? |
| 04:59.02 | k-god | !tell attabui: about search |
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| 04:59.26 | unstable | attabui: 2.12 |
| 04:59.27 | streuner_ | attabui: pdo would tell you |
| 04:59.28 | attabui | fine, fine, google, I get it. |
| 04:59.30 | attabui | ^_^ |
| 04:59.32 | unstable | !pdo |
| 04:59.33 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/, or the machine that hosts http://packages.debian.org has been overloaded, a temporary replacement can be found at http://pdo.debian.net |
| 04:59.33 | sess | k-god: fuser -k /dev/pts/# |
| 04:59.44 | sess | hmmmm |
| 05:00.01 | sess | i'm thinking i've got some CPU leakage issues |
| 05:00.01 | k-god | sess: Cool. I think you can specify the signal sent too. Not at a debian box ATM. |
| 05:00.03 | sess | bloody hell |
| 05:00.24 | sess | kswapd0/1 are sitting at around 40%/ea |
| 05:00.28 | sess | which is just bs |
| 05:00.38 | sess | specially when the machine is a bloody dual dual cored 265 with 4gig |
| 05:01.01 | k-god | sess: 40% of what? |
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| 05:02.53 | sess | hmmm, i've just started up around 18 proc's under one username |
| 05:02.59 | sess | i normally do it under multiple usernames |
| 05:03.03 | sess | i wonder if that's the reason |
| 05:03.05 | sess | 40% of CPU |
| 05:03.16 | sess | is their a paste channel on this network ? |
| 05:03.35 | cheal | !tell sess about paste |
| 05:04.38 | pilgrim | Is there a non GUI version of synaptic? |
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| 05:05.21 | Snadder | hi.. anyone know where I can get a skype package for etch? |
| 05:05.23 | Nihilanth | pilgrim: aptitude maybe? |
| 05:05.53 | streuner_ | Snadder: well, not in the repos of debian |
| 05:05.55 | pilgrim | Nihilanth, is that the best one? |
| 05:06.36 | Snadder | streuner_, i've tried apt-get.org.. but it seems like no packages is out for etch.. |
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| 05:08.27 | Snadder | the skype debian package at skype.com requires libqt3c102-mt |
| 05:08.40 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:08.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:08.45 | Snadder | which is replaced by libqt3-mt in etch |
| 05:08.48 | tarzeau | Snadder: that'snot a debian problem |
| 05:09.03 | tarzeau | Snadder: that's a skype problem. #skype |
| 05:09.39 | Snadder | just as #skype exists :p |
| 05:09.48 | tarzeau | Snadder: you create it! :) |
| 05:09.56 | tarzeau | Snadder: so we send the next skype problem user there |
| 05:10.35 | sess | k-god: check #flood |
| 05:10.40 | Snadder | hehe.. and then I just tell that guy to install the static binary thingie at skype.com ? |
| 05:10.55 | tarzeau | Snadder: you can also marry that guy |
| 05:11.07 | Snadder | i'd like to marry you instead. |
| 05:11.12 | tarzeau | Snadder: no thanks |
| 05:11.20 | tarzeau | Snadder: wait, got a photo? |
| 05:11.52 | streuner_ | tarzeau: haha, good morning. |
| 05:11.54 | simonrvn | well, it's my fucking b-day today. *snore* |
| 05:12.02 | tarzeau | streuner_: morning, damn need to catch this trian... |
| 05:12.06 | Snadder | tarzeau, I guess so.. two sec. ;o |
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| 05:14.03 | Snadder | tarzeau, http://tinyurl.com/nf0d |
| 05:14.12 | Snadder | ;-D |
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| 05:15.43 | Snadder | dont I got some sweet tits? |
| 05:16.09 | X600 | I really wish I hadn't clicked that. |
| 05:16.16 | Snadder | LOL |
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| 05:25.40 | me0w | Hello |
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| 05:27.12 | Money | umm, what will happen if i opp 2 cafeine pills, even though the instructions say take one every 3 to 4 hours |
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| 05:27.50 | me0w | try it and find out |
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| 05:27.58 | Money | k |
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| 05:28.08 | cahoot | Money: you follow instrctions ? |
| 05:29.03 | Tallu | Money, nothing really. if you're not used to caffeine you might get a bit tired. |
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| 05:30.26 | marp | apparently it takes around 50 cups of coffee to kill a man. How many cups of coffee is one of those pills worth? |
| 05:30.43 | Bone | umm |
| 05:30.48 | Bone | one pill is... |
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| 05:31.17 | Bone | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.31 | Bone | bone = money |
| 05:31.36 | marp | yeah, I'd say you'll be fine :) |
| 05:31.40 | Money | one pill is 200 mg |
| 05:31.40 | Money | ok |
| 05:31.41 | Money | then |
| 05:31.43 | attabui | that's more like 2 light espressos... an 8oz cup of black is closer to 80mg |
| 05:31.45 | Money | i'll pop one more |
| 05:31.51 | Money | i need to stay up al night |
| 05:31.58 | Money | and finish this c++ book |
| 05:31.59 | attabui | btw, DO NOT take more than one 200mg pill at a time |
| 05:32.03 | Money | or at least half |
| 05:32.05 | Nazxul | Not as good as coffee. |
| 05:32.27 | Nazxul | You don't get that kick. :p |
| 05:32.39 | Money | i jsut overdosed on a caffeine pill |
| 05:32.59 | Money | attabui: too late, i just took 2 |
| 05:33.13 | Money | and i had one prior to that like 2 or 3 hours ago |
| 05:33.21 | attabui | the trick to hard caffeine is taking in at least 16oz water for every 100mg. |
| 05:33.22 | Money | i mean 4 |
| 05:33.22 | Tallu | It doesnt matter |
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| 05:34.31 | gpm | hey guys. i don't know any tex, but i'd like to learn. i'm writing an essay for school, what should i apt-get? and where can i learn how to use it? thanks and sorry for this stupid question. |
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| 05:34.56 | apikoros | hey, is there some unofficial (or otherwise) package repository that has vlc player for testing? |
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| 05:35.01 | Bone | heh |
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| 05:36.26 | gahan | is there a cmd line tool to convert "OpenDocument Text" to txt, html, pdf, anything? |
| 05:36.50 | marp | gpm: The main tool you will want is pdflatex |
| 05:36.57 | marp | which does about what you would guess |
| 05:37.10 | gpm | so i should learn latex? |
| 05:37.13 | gpm | i don't even know latex |
| 05:37.15 | gpm | :-P |
| 05:37.26 | marp | hold on, I'll see if I can track down an introduction |
| 05:37.33 | dbw | gpm: if you're looking for something powerful that can do math and science, you want latex |
| 05:37.44 | dbw | gpm: if you're writing a history paper, "abiword" is a lot easier |
| 05:37.46 | gpm | oh, i'm not doing much technical work these days |
| 05:37.59 | dbw | gpm: it's basically a word clone |
| 05:38.13 | gpm | yeah, but i'm sick of that crap. |
| 05:38.19 | dbw | openoffice is good too, a little more full featured but a little slower |
| 05:38.31 | gpm | yeah, but i wanted to try a real typesetting thing |
| 05:38.34 | gpm | not a word processor |
| 05:38.40 | dbw | ah, then you want latex |
| 05:38.48 | gpm | cool |
| 05:38.52 | gpm | i'll google it up |
| 05:38.54 | gpm | thanks |
| 05:38.55 | gpm | ! |
| 05:39.03 | dbw | it's pretty easy... "tetex" is what you want to apt-get |
| 05:39.07 | dbw | and probably tetex-doc too |
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| 05:39.38 | dbw | lyx is an easier way to get into latex if you're in a rush |
| 05:39.48 | gpm | k |
| 05:40.20 | ice_1963 | lynx |
| 05:40.27 | gpm | no |
| 05:40.42 | ice_1963 | ok |
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| 05:41.21 | marp | gpm: http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/info/beginlatex/beginlatex-3.6.pdf |
| 05:41.33 | marp | gpm: http://www.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/textprocessing/latex_guide.dvi |
| 05:41.42 | marp | those are two I used to learn latex |
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| 05:43.10 | gahan | is there a command line tool to convert "OpenDocument Text" (openoffice.org document) to text, html, pdf, anything? |
| 05:44.22 | streuner_ | oo is able to create pdf's or text files |
| 05:44.59 | jm_ | there's also cups-pdf to easily get PDF files for anything |
| 05:48.15 | streuner_ | jm_: so it creates pdf-files of *any* source? |
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| 05:48.59 | mrspock1980 | Good morning, After my latest apt-get upgrade I get evolution *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: when I launch evolution. DOes anyone have an idea, how this can be fixed? it a known bug, but there is no suitable solution to find on the net. |
| 05:49.19 | jm_ | streuner_: well anything that CUPS can print |
| 05:49.33 | streuner_ | jm_: hehe |
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| 05:52.01 | _rene_ | mrspock1980: wait till it is fixed. welcome in unstable. probably the glib change |
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| 05:52.19 | jm_ | it's a bug in Evolution, glibc merely detected it |
| 05:52.45 | _rene_ | jm_: read again. I didn't say glib*c* |
| 05:52.49 | cheal | _rene_: I think the bug only affects testing |
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| 05:53.20 | jm_ | _rene_: read again, I never mentioned your nick anywhere |
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| 05:53.33 | _rene_ | jm_: glib changed memory stuff, and some glib using packages get broken with that (iin sid) |
| 05:53.44 | _rene_ | no idea whether evolution yet got fixed, I use mutt |
| 05:54.25 | jm_ | _rene_: I remember reading about some allocator changes a while ago |
| 05:54.35 | _rene_ | that's different. |
| 05:54.35 | mrspock1980 | I'm not in unstable, I'm in testing/etch |
| 05:54.50 | _rene_ | oh, then I don't know. |
| 05:55.03 | streuner_ | what about BTS? |
| 05:55.08 | _rene_ | but you still have to wait for a fixed package. welcome in development releases :-P |
| 05:55.11 | wmhtet | is there a way to raise the mic's capture quality? |
| 05:55.32 | _rene_ | (and note that g2.14 is entering sid atm so any evolution fix is held back by it) |
| 05:55.35 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:56.16 | mrspock1980 | apart from the bad news, any idea how to quick fix this? |
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| 05:56.49 | jm_ | mrspock1980: those issues are usually not solved quickly, and if you have to ask, you won't succeed |
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| 05:58.05 | mrspock1980 | I don't see why, it was a simple question about a quick hack, anybody has made to fix this issue temporarily while the distribution is updated. |
| 05:58.18 | emss | someone know how to get that search bar which is integrated into SuSE's kmenu so you can type /<word> and it will search the kmenu? want to add that to my kde 3.5.2 install on Debian unstable |
| 05:58.53 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:58.55 | wmhtet | you can try creating a .asoundrc in your home directory |
| 05:58.55 | wmhtet | http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=48195 |
| 05:58.55 | wmhtet | or try creating a /etc/asound.conf |
| 05:58.55 | wmhtet | http://www.mayrhofer.eu.org/downloads/misc/thinkpad-t42p/config/asound.conf |
| 05:58.55 | wmhtet | the file is for thinkpad but it works for me. |
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| 05:59.25 | wmhtet | duh! |
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| 06:00.52 | muntyan | hey, i got /var/lib/dpkg/available corrupted somehow, how can i restore it? |
| 06:00.55 | Nazxul | Maybe it's your voice? |
| 06:01.00 | muntyan | i get this: dpkg-query: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 257263: |
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| 06:01.16 | muntyan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:02.53 | PowerPC | is debian 3.2 eventually going to get gnome 2.14? |
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| 06:03.42 | unstable | PowerPC: 3.2 isn't released yet |
| 06:03.49 | PowerPC | i didnt say it was |
| 06:03.54 | PowerPC | im running beta 2 right now |
| 06:04.05 | unstable | PowerPC: yes it's going to get gnome |
| 06:04.05 | PowerPC | and noticed it had gnome 2.12 |
| 06:04.05 | nrdb | I am moving someone from WinXP to Linux, they are currently using Mozilla Thunderbird on WinXP, if I copy the directory "c:\Program Files\Mozilla Thunderbird" over to $HOME/.mozilla-thunderbird would the WinXP config, email etc files work? |
| 06:04.21 | unstable | PowerPC: etch hasn't froze yet...when it freezes whatever versions there are will be what stable will have. |
| 06:04.30 | tarzeau | Snadder: damn you! |
| 06:04.39 | jm_ | muntyan: /msg dpkg available |
| 06:04.43 | PowerPC | unstable: explain to me what that means :P |
| 06:04.55 | PowerPC | froze? |
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| 06:05.44 | eleftherios | hm, apt-spy can't find any countries... |
| 06:05.48 | muntyan | jm_: thanks! |
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| 06:06.27 | PowerPC | i got azureus and limewire working on etch beta 2 :D |
| 06:06.42 | jmg | PowerPC: wow. you hax0r |
| 06:07.06 | PowerPC | i know, pathetic |
| 06:07.06 | PowerPC | lol |
| 06:07.33 | PowerPC | installing java had to be the most confusing o.O |
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| 06:09.49 | Ashex | how would I search for a file using command line? |
| 06:09.54 | eleftherios | is anyone familiar with apt-spy here? It reports it can not find any countries, google doesn't return any relevant results... |
| 06:10.01 | Ashex | I know it's the find command. but how do I search for a single file? |
| 06:10.11 | menko | Ashex: find | grep -i file |
| 06:10.19 | jm_ | Ashex: info find |
| 06:10.19 | w32 | how can i tell what kernel is installed on debian sarge |
| 06:10.24 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.26 | jmg | uname -a |
| 06:10.30 | gpm | uname -r |
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| 06:11.12 | w32 | thanks |
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| 06:13.39 | Ashex | I just compiled the kernel, but I can't find the foo.deb file..... |
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| 06:16.34 | wmhtet | saw another option in alsamixer, mic boost (press 'm' to activate), but I still need to speak very closely to the mic |
| 06:17.06 | Ashex | I'm having some trouble compiling my kernel |
| 06:17.14 | Ashex | I've been following the guide off debian.org |
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| 06:17.33 | Ashex | but the final step of using make-kpkg, I don't have a foo.deb file |
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| 06:18.13 | wweilai | exi |
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| 06:19.16 | Ashex | list |
| 06:19.24 | Ashex | er |
| 06:19.29 | tarzeau | Ashex: did it run successfully? check in ../ |
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| 06:20.06 | sammylvz | hi |
| 06:20.28 | sammylvz | how do u get into the hottub |
| 06:20.40 | sammylvz | any1 here |
| 06:20.46 | tarzeau | sammylvz: how's that related to debian? |
| 06:20.57 | sammylvz | T |
| 06:20.59 | Ashex | tarzeau: what do you mean ../? |
| 06:21.31 | tarzeau | Ashex: you run make-kpkg inside the linux/ directory right? so the kernel.deb is generated in cd .. |
| 06:21.36 | sammylvz | trarzeau: i dnt know wat debian is |
| 06:21.44 | tarzeau | sammylvz: i think you want ircnet |
| 06:21.49 | tarzeau | sammylvz: a/s/l? |
| 06:22.15 | sammylvz | tarzeau:16 f uk u |
| 06:22.28 | Ashex | tarzeau: I checked there, but it wasn't there, that's why I'm confused |
| 06:22.34 | Ashex | I tried searching for it, but it didn't come up |
| 06:22.48 | tarzeau | sammylvz: nice, photo? |
| 06:23.00 | tarzeau | Ashex: what says the build log? |
| 06:23.09 | Azar | hi tarzeau sir |
| 06:23.11 | sammylvz | tarzeau: no soz |
| 06:23.12 | tarzeau | Ashex: maybe it failed to build? which kernel? version? configfile? |
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| 06:23.39 | sammylvz | tarzeau: how do u get into the hottub |
| 06:23.42 | darkness_ | Apr 3 06:25:01 localhost su[11581]: + ??? root:nobody |
| 06:23.42 | darkness_ | Apr 3 06:25:01 localhost su[11581]: (pam_unix) session opened for user nobody by (uid=0) |
| 06:23.51 | darkness_ | Should i be worried about that log? |
| 06:24.00 | tarzeau | Azar: morning |
| 06:24.10 | Azar | :) wimin |
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| 06:24.32 | Azar | darkness_: ? |
| 06:24.33 | tarzeau | sammylvz: /join #hottub |
| 06:24.43 | tarzeau | sammylvz: first /server ircnet |
| 06:24.44 | sammylvz | tarzeau: thanks |
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| 06:24.55 | tarzeau | sammylvz: also try alt-f4 |
| 06:25.03 | Ashex | tarzeau: 2.6.8 |
| 06:25.06 | tarzeau | darkness_: i would |
| 06:25.08 | darkness_ | Azur, i don't understand root:nobody? |
| 06:25.09 | Ashex | I configured it myself |
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| 06:25.32 | tarzeau | Ashex: why do you need to configure it yourself? |
| 06:25.32 | Azar | darkness_: don't worry, is root taking a walk... nothing harmless |
| 06:25.37 | Azar | err harming |
| 06:25.38 | darkness_ | But it says localhost, so is that root gained locally? |
| 06:25.40 | tarzeau | Ashex: debian ships also stone age kernels like you want |
| 06:25.47 | sammylvz | tarzeau:there no1 there |
| 06:25.57 | Azar | darkness: root is taking a break nothing bad there |
| 06:26.07 | tarzeau | sammylvz: if i was op, i'd just kick you |
| 06:26.11 | darkness_ | Azur, good, just that ip user 61.221.60.82 is trying to brute force into root. |
| 06:26.11 | Ashex | because debian sucks at acpi support in the default kernel |
| 06:26.25 | sammylvz | tarzeau:y |
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| 06:26.31 | Azar | darkness use a package named denyhosts |
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| 06:26.41 | tarzeau | sammylvz: oh and i'd shut the fuck up your mouth with your socks |
| 06:27.01 | Ashex | tarzeau: I prefer not to use the pre-built ones, especially on a laptop. usually causes problems for me. |
| 06:27.17 | tarzeau | Ashex: but why not get the latest? 2.6.16.1? |
| 06:27.18 | sammylvz | tarzeau: wat fuck have i do? |
| 06:27.24 | darkness_ | Azur, yeah i've been adding users to it, but someone is getting very tedios. |
| 06:27.36 | tarzeau | sammylvz: ok you are just wrong here for help. #hottub is on ircnet |
| 06:27.39 | Ashex | tarzeau: because for some reason it wasn't in the apt-list |
| 06:27.43 | tarzeau | sammylvz: you are on a different chat network |
| 06:27.54 | tarzeau | Ashex: yes you need to get it from www.kernel.org |
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| 06:28.04 | darkness_ | Can you email anyone to complain about illegal attemted cracking? |
| 06:28.04 | w32 | I have ncurses installed what am I doing wrong or missing here http://w32.pastebin.com/637176 |
| 06:28.12 | tarzeau | Ashex: do you think debian has the latest software? |
| 06:28.13 | Ashex | tarzeau: yeah, I sorta didn't think about that :S |
| 06:28.17 | tarzeau | Ashex: hahahah you are hilarious |
| 06:28.19 | Azar | darkness_: http://www.howtoforge.com/preventing_ssh_dictionary_attacks_with_denyhosts and disable root login over ssh |
| 06:28.30 | Ashex | tarzeau: hardly, I use apt when I'm feeling lazy |
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| 06:28.34 | sammylvz | tarzeau:but there no1 to talk 2 by the way u my a/s/l wats u'rs |
| 06:28.45 | tarzeau | sammylvz: 28 m ch |
| 06:28.45 | darkness_ | Tks Azur, i DID disable remote root login. |
| 06:28.48 | sep | darkness_, whois the ip address of the source of the attack. then see if there is a abuse@ adderss posted there |
| 06:29.08 | Azar | sep bah, for sure is a bot |
| 06:29.24 | \amethyst | sep: not at the IP address itself, but for the network block |
| 06:29.24 | sammylvz | tarzeau: will u go into the hottub plz |
| 06:29.29 | sep | Azar, and you are saying that those dont need weeding out. ? |
| 06:29.30 | Azar | I quit worrying about IP addresses, is a waste of time |
| 06:29.31 | tarzeau | sammylvz: i'm already there |
| 06:29.52 | sep | ofcouse it's a bot, but those should be found and dismembered too |
| 06:29.57 | zinx | i know how to prevent ssh attacks |
| 06:30.02 | zinx | don't run sshd |
| 06:30.05 | Azar | sep I get scanned by zombies about 85 scans in 5 minutes... Id waste my life worrying about every single one |
| 06:30.09 | sammylvz | tarzeau:no u not |
| 06:30.10 | sep | \amethyst, exactly why you use the whois tool |
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| 06:30.26 | \amethyst | sep: oops, I meant to say Azar: not sep: :) |
| 06:30.31 | sammylvz | it the names at the side n it only got mine |
| 06:30.44 | tarzeau | sammylvz: what is your chat program? |
| 06:30.53 | sep | Azar, you and everyone else on the net. but he asked where to mail and he got a reply. after a few days of that he'll calm down |
| 06:31.09 | sammylvz | i dnt know |
| 06:31.10 | Ashex | tarzeau: latest version is 2.6.16.1 correct? |
| 06:31.17 | tarzeau | Ashex: afaik |
| 06:31.21 | Azar | darkness learn how to install/configure denyhosts, have your users' IP and put them in groups with limited moves, nobody should have the root password and you are good to go |
| 06:31.41 | tarzeau | Ashex: ow nice, there's 2.6.17-rc1 already |
| 06:31.49 | Ashex | I haven't a clue what afaik means, but I'm going to guess it means "how the fuck should I know?" |
| 06:31.51 | sammylvz | tarzeau: go back 2 the hottub |
| 06:31.55 | Azar | sep he needs to play with security rules a bit and watch the logs. |
| 06:31.58 | w32 | anyone ? I have ncurses installed what am I doing wrong or missing here http://w32.pastebin.com/637176 |
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| 06:31.59 | Ashex | then why the hell isn't it available! Grr! |
| 06:32.16 | tarzeau | !afaik |
| 06:32.17 | dpkg | i guess afaik is some kind of acronym...but nobody knows what it means, As Far As I Know. ask me about 'imnkatf'. |
| 06:32.17 | sep | !afaik |
| 06:32.26 | Azar | tarzeau: what I told you the other night: I hate women who pull me from my computer |
| 06:32.38 | tarzeau | Azar: hehe, you need to work on this then |
| 06:32.46 | sep | Azar, mutch better tey give you a blowjob while you work right ? :) |
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| 06:32.53 | Azar | tarzeau: yes indeed I need a manual for that too |
| 06:33.01 | Azar | bah.. women |
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| 06:33.25 | Azar | I got a new interesting tutorial so yay! I am having fun |
| 06:33.36 | tarzeau | Azar: what's your age again? |
| 06:33.50 | tarzeau | sep: what's your age? |
| 06:33.51 | Azar | tarzeau: 22 |
| 06:33.55 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.57 | sep | tarzeau, 30 |
| 06:34.09 | sep | tarzeau, wife and 2 kids |
| 06:34.17 | \amethyst | w32: you need ncurses-dev |
| 06:34.20 | Azar | tarzeau: I am not so good looking and thanks god women are making fun of me... |
| 06:34.49 | sep | tarzeau, what's with the asl ? :) |
| 06:34.55 | tarzeau | sep: hehe, just wondering |
| 06:34.58 | w32 | \amethyst: Thanks |
| 06:35.01 | tarzeau | Azar: photo? |
| 06:35.01 | \amethyst | w32: err, libncurses5-dev |
| 06:35.06 | Azar | age sex lime? |
| 06:35.15 | sep | !asl |
| 06:35.15 | dpkg | sep, American Sign Language isn't very useful on Internet Relay Chat Old enough, Yes please, My place. above sea level |
| 06:35.20 | sep | lol |
| 06:35.48 | sep | Age Sex Location it's not uncommon to get asked asl? on other ircnetworks |
| 06:35.51 | Azar | yes but on the other box... I will have to download it in this box soon |
| 06:36.19 | Azar | hehe, love dpkg |
| 06:36.23 | sep | freenode is a patch of heaven where things that actualy matter are discussed :) |
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| 06:37.05 | Azar | well work tomorrow and the govt stole one hour of my sleep already: we got spring time. Good night honorables |
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| 06:45.02 | Tygrys | hello |
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| 06:47.24 | Bone | i don't feel so good :( |
| 06:47.29 | jmd | Why does gv from etch ignore all X resources? |
| 06:47.34 | SlayerXP | morning |
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| 06:49.20 | DAaaMan64 | I have 2 questions, what can use for a dvd ripper(not for illegal use I swear)? |
| 06:49.45 | zamolxes | DAaaMan64: mencoder |
| 06:50.02 | DAaaMan64 | mencoder? Ok thank you :) |
| 06:50.04 | jm_ | apt-cache search dvd rip |
| 06:50.25 | David-SFN | is anyone here a big AMD64 user? |
| 06:50.35 | zamolxes | yeah, or one of those |
| 06:50.45 | DAaaMan64 | also, in slax os there is a command called xconf, does this exist and does it work the same as in others? |
| 06:50.50 | DAaaMan64 | err as in slax? |
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| 06:51.13 | jm_ | what does xconf do? |
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| 06:51.54 | DAaaMan64 | configures x on the spot for 3d hardware acceleration and resolution. All you type is that, no need for answering questions. |
| 06:51.59 | jm_ | I have Athlon64 CPU, not sur ewhat "big user" means and I don't use amd64 port |
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| 06:52.15 | jm_ | Debian uses debconf to configure X server |
| 06:52.27 | jm_ | !drxx DAaaMan64 |
| 06:52.28 | dpkg | DAaaMan64: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 06:52.51 | David-SFN | jm_: i should of be more clear actually, yeah i'm after someone who is using the AMD64 port and would know why i cant seem to install ia32-libs |
| 06:53.10 | jm_ | David-SFN: tried Debian amd64 channel? |
| 06:53.20 | sep | !amd64 |
| 06:53.20 | dpkg | i heard amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 06:53.26 | DAaaMan64 | thanks! Does it do it automattically or do I have to fill out a form? I am booting off of a external harddrive and am considering XGL |
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| 06:53.40 | jm_ | forget about XGL for now |
| 06:54.02 | DAaaMan64 | why? |
| 06:54.10 | DAaaMan64 | it is almsost cool :p |
| 06:54.13 | jm_ | because it's not available yet |
| 06:54.46 | DAaaMan64 | you can install it on ubuntu. I want to try at least. |
| 06:55.00 | jm_ | sure, you can also use live CD with it |
| 06:55.10 | jm_ | that's what I used to toy with it |
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| 06:55.27 | DAaaMan64 | hmm so why else would you recommend I not worry about it? |
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| 06:55.48 | jm_ | it's not in Debian |
| 06:56.04 | DAaaMan64 | aaahhhh :p ok I will wait. |
| 06:56.11 | DAaaMan64 | thanks, I will try out this mencoder thing. |
| 06:56.44 | DAaaMan64 | my mplayer doesn't work right, does that mean I can't use mencoder? |
| 06:57.31 | Bone | ahhhhh, :( i don't feel so good.....:( thats the last time i overdose on caffeine pills |
| 06:58.52 | kaliumfredrik | DAaaMan64:Could you be more specific than "doesn't work right" |
| 06:59.12 | David-SFN | bone: that'll teach you :p |
| 06:59.23 | DAaaMan64 | kaliumfredrik: as in, starts up, and then just stops and I get an error message. |
| 06:59.44 | kaliumfredrik | DAaaMan64: what error message |
| 07:00.11 | simonrvn | tirer les vers du nez.... |
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| 07:00.43 | DAaaMan64 | Error opening/initializing the selected video_out(-vo) device. |
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| 07:02.21 | kaliumfredrik | It seems that you don't use the right video output device which has NOTHING to do with mncoder. So the answare to your question is No, you can use mncoder. |
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| 07:02.29 | kaliumfredrik | mencoder |
| 07:03.10 | kaliumfredrik | Try reading the manual (by typing man mplayer) |
| 07:03.12 | jmd | How can I change the default printCommand in gv ? |
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| 07:04.12 | kaliumfredrik | DAaaMan64: you probably have to write something like mplayer -vo std <filename> to get it to work. |
| 07:04.19 | jm_ | jmd: doesn't it work when set in one of the resource files? |
| 07:05.06 | jmd | jm_: It would seem not. |
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| 07:05.17 | simonrvn | bbiab |
| 07:05.27 | DAaaMan64 | ok, thanks I will give this a shot! :))) |
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| 07:06.50 | jm_ | jmd: it works for me |
| 07:07.05 | jmd | Hmm. What version of gv ? |
| 07:07.29 | jm_ | Sarge version |
| 07:07.36 | jm_ | gv 3.6.1 |
| 07:07.48 | sammylvz | sum1 go in the huttub |
| 07:08.19 | jmd | jm_: Maybe it's broken on etch. What file did you set it in? and what resource did you change? |
| 07:08.49 | jm_ | jmd: ~/.gv as per the documentation - I have used system wide setting as a base to set it |
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| 07:10.10 | jmd | jm_: So you used GV.printCommand: foo ? |
| 07:10.21 | jm_ | jmd: indeed |
| 07:10.52 | jmd | Then why the !#@!% doesn't it work for me ? |
| 07:11.16 | jm_ | does it read the file at all? |
| 07:12.57 | jmd | Ahh: works from a ~/.gv file. |
| 07:13.49 | jmd | Why doesn't it work from /etc/X11/app-defaults/GV ? |
| 07:15.10 | DAaaMan64 | !xmd5 |
| 07:15.11 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 07:15.14 | jm_ | that file is only read when you start X server |
| 07:16.05 | jm_ | actually it seems to merge /etc/X11/Xresources |
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| 07:17.05 | jmd | So how should I set it as a global default for the machine? |
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| 07:17.59 | jm_ | why not add /etc/X11/Xresources/gv ? |
| 07:18.11 | sammylvz | y no1 in the hottub |
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| 07:19.24 | jmd | jm_, How does gv know to look there ? |
| 07:19.57 | jm_ | jmd: it doesn't, but Xsession startup script does, then again, this might not work if you'll use non-standard session scripts |
| 07:20.32 | jm_ | alternatively, set it in system wide gv config files |
| 07:20.41 | darkness_ | Hi i'm trying to install and configure denyhosts program and while trying to run it i get the error msg :- |
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| 07:21.08 | jmd | I thought that /etc/X11/app-defaults/GV was the the system wide file. |
| 07:21.28 | jm_ | no, ls /usr/lib/gv |
| 07:21.31 | darkness_ | DenyHosts could not obtain lock (pid: ) |
| 07:21.32 | darkness_ | [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lock/subsys/denyhosts' |
| 07:22.32 | jmd | jm_, Ahh. it's probably being overridden there. What idiot decided to put it in two places? |
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| 07:23.15 | sammylvz | no1 in the hottub |
| 07:23.21 | jm_ | jmd: the docs mention two system wide config files, and user config file |
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| 07:28.17 | Bone | i am on linux, and i use g++ to compile my c++ source code, can i use g++ with 2d/3d game engines? |
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| 07:28.48 | Eulex | Bone, umh, why not? |
| 07:29.13 | Bone | because i thought, some engines, are only binded to certain ides, maybe that was an sdk or something, i dunno |
| 07:29.30 | simonrvn | since when? |
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| 07:29.44 | simonrvn | man g++ |
| 07:30.19 | Eulex | Bone, you can basically use all C apis in C++. |
| 07:30.31 | Adi1 | i am installing linux from my FTP server using anonymous ftp, it gives me error that "failed to retrieve /var/ftp/pub/repodata/repomd.xml" while the file exists |
| 07:31.03 | oB | chmod settings right? |
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| 07:32.25 | Adi1 | oB: you are asking me? |
| 07:32.54 | oB | yeh.. could be a reason for it not retrieving the file |
| 07:33.20 | Adi1 | i set it 777 :) still same error? |
| 07:33.39 | oB | weird :( |
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| 07:35.02 | oB | chown stuff correct :/ |
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| 07:39.40 | darkness_ | Anyone help where i configured denyhosts program. I get the following error: |
| 07:39.43 | darkness_ | metawire:/home/darkness# /etc/init.d/denyhosts start |
| 07:39.43 | darkness_ | starting DenyHosts: /usr/bin/denyhosts.py --daemon --config=/usr/share/denyhosts/denyhost s.cfg |
| 07:39.46 | darkness_ | DenyHosts could not obtain lock (pid: ) |
| 07:39.49 | darkness_ | [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lock/subsys/denyhosts' |
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| 07:40.03 | nayyares | i am installing linux from my FTP server using anonymous ftp, it gives me error that "failed to retrieve /var/ftp/pub/repodata/repomd.xml" while the file exists |
| 07:40.27 | jm_ | darkness_: 1. stop pasting, 2. do you have /var/lock/subsys dir? |
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| 07:40.49 | Bay | What unattended cd only system do people recommend? :D |
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| 07:41.34 | jm_ | Bay: what do you mean? |
| 07:41.39 | darkness_ | jm, nope. |
| 07:41.46 | darkness_ | Sorry for the paste. |
| 07:41.50 | jm_ | darkness_: so what do you think you should do? |
| 07:42.13 | Bay | jm_: Customized installation cd's, ie put in the cd, boot and voila perfect setup :) |
| 07:42.35 | jm_ | Bay: ahh, you can create customized Debian CD-s, d-i Wiki has docs |
| 07:42.37 | Bay | I need to make one to install on several systems |
| 07:42.53 | darkness_ | jm, install subsys into /var/log ? |
| 07:43.00 | jm_ | darkness_: mkdir |
| 07:43.20 | Bone | i've installed something from source, how do i uninstall it, i am in the middle of it, i just finished running "make" howdo i get rid of this software? |
| 07:43.27 | darkness_ | mkdir subsys? |
| 07:43.32 | Bay | Bone: try make uninstall :P |
| 07:43.33 | jm_ | yes |
| 07:43.52 | Bone | its working |
| 07:43.55 | Bone | thanks Bay |
| 07:43.55 | sep | Bone, did you run make install ? if not you can just remove the directory |
| 07:44.05 | Bone | i just ran ./configre and make |
| 07:44.08 | Bone | not make instal |
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| 07:44.49 | k-god | !tell nayyares about ask |
| 07:44.54 | sep | Bone, lets just hope the make uninstall dont remove files from your debian that you'd rather want to keep now then. what source was this ? |
| 07:44.59 | kreg_work | i have aic7xxx, scsi_transport_spi, and scsi_mod loaded. what else does a guy need to get his old scsi ultra wide drive to appear as /dev/sdx ? |
| 07:45.17 | Bone | allegro |
| 07:45.21 | k-god | dpkg: macbook install is still under development but see: http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/HOWTO |
| 07:45.21 | dpkg | okay, k-god |
| 07:45.25 | sep | kreg_work, sd_mod ? |
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| 07:45.42 | jm_ | kreg_work: do you see sd in /proc/devices? |
| 07:46.01 | k-god | kreg_work: what's /proc/scsi/scsi tell you about devices? And yeah, you'll want sd_<something> there. |
| 07:46.08 | jbrouhard | Just got a quick question.. you guys got a channel lik #debian-server ? |
| 07:46.18 | nayyares | i am installing linux from my FTP server using anonymous ftp, it gives me error that "failed to retrieve /var/ftp/pub/repodata/repomd.xml" while the file exists |
| 07:46.39 | k-god | jbrouhard: /query chanserv list *debian*server*. |
| 07:46.48 | k-god | jbrouhard: not AFAIK though. |
| 07:46.58 | jbrouhard | hmm |
| 07:47.12 | k-god | jbrouhard: Just ask here. |
| 07:47.13 | jbrouhard | I suppose I can just ask server related questions in here then :) |
| 07:47.19 | darkness_ | jm_, how do you delete a dir? |
| 07:47.23 | kreg_work | yep just needed sd_mod loaded |
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| 07:47.30 | jbrouhard | Just now setting up a debian server, so I might be in here more often |
| 07:47.44 | jm_ | darkness_: have you read any newbie guides at all? |
| 07:47.46 | k-god | jbrouhard: See you around then. |
| 07:47.48 | nayyares | k-god: you this is second time i am posting my question and no reply |
| 07:47.56 | jbrouhard | does debian support the PERC/2 RAID Controllers? both Redhat (CentOS) and ubuntu apparently didn't detect it... |
| 07:48.22 | k-god | nayyares: can you ping the server? Read logs from it? Tried an alternate access method? |
| 07:48.38 | k-god | jbrouhard: Dell stuff, right? |
| 07:48.41 | nayyares | k-god: i can ping that server |
| 07:48.49 | nayyares | k-god |
| 07:48.52 | jbrouhard | Yeppers.. Dell PowerEdge 6400 |
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| 07:49.12 | nayyares | k-god: even ssh,the file exist |
| 07:49.17 | k-god | jbrouhard: Ghod. I remember reading some bits on that. Never had to deal with it myself. Google is your friend. |
| 07:49.25 | jm_ | jbrouhard: http://linux.dell.com/distributions.shtml |
| 07:49.34 | sep | jbrouhard, i think you need a more recent kernel . i'd recomend |
| 07:49.37 | sep | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 07:49.37 | dpkg | methinks sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 07:49.40 | sep | that one |
| 07:49.55 | jbrouhard | it's just INSTALLING it that gave me hell |
| 07:50.01 | k-god | nayyares: OK, the usual drill is: check net connectivity, check daemons, check routing, check logs, check protocol settings, binary/ascii, authentication. |
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| 07:50.38 | k-god | jbrouhard: My own fave is to do a chroot install from a known working distro, almost always spelled "KNOPPIX". |
| 07:50.49 | jbrouhard | LOL |
| 07:50.55 | jbrouhard | Real tempting to do so |
| 07:50.58 | jbrouhard | but never tried it |
| 07:50.59 | sanxiyn | k-god: Well what's wrong with installing with debootstrap? :-) |
| 07:51.11 | k-god | nayyares: you're the one with the box in front of you (or otherwise accessible). Find out if your servers are running and/or tossing errors. |
| 07:51.22 | k-god | sanxiyn: Nothing. That's the currently preferred chroot method. |
| 07:51.40 | sanxiyn | Install with deadrat, debootstrap, etc. (if needed) |
| 07:51.53 | k-god | jbrouhard: There's really good docs in the Debian instalation guide (Appendix C). I shave the guy who wrote the originals. |
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| 07:55.00 | darkness_ | jm_, nope. But i'm trying to get hostsdeny running. So i need to delete the dir secure and create the file secure. |
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| 07:57.32 | jm_ | darkness_: ok, 'man mkdir', it's worth remembering this command: apropos, try 'apropos directory' |
| 07:58.01 | Bone | how do i use eterm so that i can get "true transparency" ? |
| 07:58.43 | Bone | or xterm |
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| 08:02.13 | unstable | !tell Bone about eterm |
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| 08:04.02 | valdyn | Bone: just dont do it, its not stable or mature yet |
| 08:04.13 | darkness_ | okay jm_ , you made my lazy fingers work. rmdir :-) |
| 08:04.15 | Bone | ok |
| 08:04.18 | jbrouhard | Anyone know of an application that loads Windows help files? *.chm ? |
| 08:04.37 | valdyn | Bone: so as nice as it might looks it tends to break things or just crash |
| 08:04.52 | jm_ | jbrouhard: search for it and you'll find it |
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| 08:06.02 | darkness_ | jm_, seeing how i don't have the file secure, it is pointless just creating a file called secure? |
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| 08:06.36 | jm_ | darkness_: where do you want to create that? |
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| 08:07.13 | thing3 | can anybody help with mysql issues on debian pls? i cannot set a password |
| 08:07.28 | darkness_ | jm_ in the dir /var/log |
| 08:07.55 | jm_ | darkness_: yes, it's pointelss - read http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/faq.html#1_13 |
| 08:08.56 | jm_ | darkness_: you can also find a link to Debian packages there |
| 08:09.18 | jm_ | so you don't need to use mkdir either, you can simply change the setting in its config file |
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| 08:09.47 | fluxdude | does anybody know if you can re-assemble a software raid array without the mdadm.conf? |
| 08:10.23 | zzz | Hi! How can i send easily a stream to a remote machine using ssh/ scp? I mean like echo 'x' | ssh/scp ... ? |
| 08:10.33 | sep | fluxdude, if it's currently running degraded yes. or you have the exact commandline you used when creating the array, perhaps. otherways no |
| 08:10.49 | jm_ | zzz: just like that |
| 08:10.51 | roxy_ | Hi, I used granule without problem untill now. I aptitude update, upgrade this morning and granule is not working anymore. I am using stable/testing. Granule is not one of the package that has been upgraded. |
| 08:11.18 | sep | roxy_, stable/testing ? do you use stable or testing ? |
| 08:11.26 | fluxdude | sep: that's what I thought, not very good, cos the persistent superblock should make this possible, just don't know how... |
| 08:12.04 | Bay | So how do people recommend doing unattended debian installs, any docs for making jigdo do that? |
| 08:12.12 | sep | !fai |
| 08:12.12 | dpkg | well, fai is Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or at #fai |
| 08:12.23 | Bay | yea, but fai needs a server |
| 08:12.26 | jm_ | Bay: I already told you - d-i Wiki |
| 08:13.07 | Bay | jm_: well, it doesn't have anything on unattended installs as I could see :) |
| 08:13.13 | zzz | jm_: if i try this: echo 'x' | ssh user@server, and i fill the password, it tells me this: -bash: line 1: x: command not found. What' s wrong? |
| 08:13.15 | jm_ | Bay: yes it does, pre-seeding |
| 08:13.18 | darkness_ | jm_, i've gone through that debian howto and install/configured everything. Only that /var/log/secure doesn't exist? |
| 08:13.18 | roxy_ | sep: both |
| 08:13.27 | roxy_ | the error is: *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x082c8630 *** |
| 08:13.42 | jm_ | zzz: echo x|ssh user@foo blabla |
| 08:13.47 | Bay | jm_: 0 results of about 4851 pages for pre-seeding |
| 08:14.03 | jm_ | darkness_: that web page tells you what to change it to |
| 08:14.33 | zzz | jm_: what should be that blabla? :- ). |
| 08:14.38 | jm_ | Bay: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller |
| 08:14.44 | jm_ | zzz: a command to read it |
| 08:14.46 | sep | !mixing distributions |
| 08:14.46 | dpkg | methinks mixing distributions is generally not a good idea; things tend to break if you don't know what you're doing. |
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| 08:15.10 | thing3 | can anybody help with mysql issues on debian pls? i cannot set an initial password |
| 08:15.12 | fluxdude | huh, what's wrong with mixing distros? |
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| 08:15.20 | zzz | jm_: on the remote machine? |
| 08:15.26 | jm_ | zzz: yes |
| 08:15.38 | sep | thing3, so when you try to set the initial password using the procedure in the doc, what error do you get |
| 08:15.56 | Bay | jm_: ty |
| 08:16.20 | roxy_ | sep: thanks for the warning about mixing distribution, but I don't think my problem is related to it. |
| 08:16.28 | liable | fluxdude: mixing packages from different distros (generally ends in hurt and frustration) |
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| 08:16.42 | sep | thing3, if you now are thinking what doc you should be ashamed of yuorself and go read in /usr/share/doc/mysql-server |
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| 08:18.18 | zzz | jm_: well, i don' t what kind of mistake i can do, but it' s executed on the local machine: echo | ssh user@server cat > file |
| 08:18.31 | SJr | Hmmmmm I'm having problems on my notebook with any form of standby hiberantion. |
| 08:18.42 | SJr | I don't think I can get software suspend to work, so I'm religated to stand by |
| 08:18.51 | SJr | but I don't even know how where to start for standby. |
| 08:19.13 | jm_ | zzz: 'cat > file' |
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| 08:20.45 | roxy_ | sep: I got that problem : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=360131 |
| 08:20.45 | thing3 | sep could not connect |
| 08:20.51 | thing3 | i read that doc |
| 08:21.04 | thing3 | i was following it and got access denied |
| 08:21.29 | zzz | jm_: oh, . it works now fine. thanks for U. |
| 08:22.32 | sep | thing3, sounds like you have already set a password |
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| 08:25.29 | coulix | if i delete a file from which a hard link exists, what will happen to the hard link ? |
| 08:25.30 | roxy_ | sep: what are the chance to have the bug fixed this week ? |
| 08:26.05 | darkness_ | jm_ , nearly got hostsdeny working. Now i get this error:- [Errno 17] File exists: '/var/log/auth.log' |
| 08:26.15 | roxy_ | coulix: a file is deleted when there are no hard link pointing to it anymore. |
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| 08:26.34 | sep | roxy_, depends on how good you are at coding. |
| 08:26.36 | coulix | ok |
| 08:26.44 | jm_ | darkness_: you made a mistake somewhere, don't know how to fix it, but it should be trivial to find it in the script |
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| 08:27.00 | zzz | jm_: still one question: I want to use it with tar like: tar cjv | ssh user@server 'cat > filename'. It looks like working fine, but the .bz2 on the remote machine is too big. It' s size is 51200, while on the local machine it is 44955. |
| 08:27.24 | thing3 | sep nope |
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| 08:28.23 | fluxdude | liable: you mean like putting an couple rpms on a gentoo box etc... |
| 08:29.28 | liable | fluxdude: well, more like adding ubuntu repos to debian and vice versa. |
| 08:29.34 | sep | thing3, then something must have gone wrong during insatllation, purge, mysql-server remove all databases and reinstall a clean mysql-server and set the password |
| 08:29.45 | jm_ | zzz: compare the contents of tar archive |
| 08:30.08 | sep | fluxdude, not that you'r idea dosn't couse unmeasureable amounts of pain :) |
| 08:30.13 | zzz | the contents is ok, with it there is no problem, just with md5sum. |
| 08:31.02 | zzz | jm_: um, and at the end i got this: bzip2: (stdin): trailing garbage after EOF ignored |
| 08:31.21 | jm_ | zzz: so some crap is inserted and that's why the size is bigger |
| 08:31.31 | zzz | jm_: i know it has got the same content, but unfortunately i need its md5sum. |
| 08:33.08 | fluxdude | indeed, it's a bad thing (TM) to mix distro bits on any one machine... |
| 08:34.10 | coulix | does kernel 2.2 support usb storage ? |
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| 08:35.27 | darkness_ | jm_, care to do me a favour please and test hostdeny on my box? |
| 08:35.54 | nkuttler | coulix: yes, but i'm not sure if it's in-tree or you need a patch |
| 08:36.08 | kreg_work | why do some distro's auto setup swap to be a logical partion in an extended area? |
| 08:36.19 | coulix | no just to know it was a question on lpi 101 linux exam |
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| 08:36.46 | streuner_ | coulix: grep the config with usb |
| 08:37.13 | streuner_ | coulix: if some ov511 chipset is supported, usb-storage should be supported too |
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| 08:37.32 | netdaemon | hmm |
| 08:37.56 | netdaemon | just a question of curiosity, but why is firefox 1.5.x not in debian testing yet? |
| 08:38.25 | streuner_ | netdaemon: /msg dpkg why is mozilla-firefox not in testing |
| 08:38.31 | coulix | i dont have 2.2 kernel under the handm the question was like : you installed a usb storage device with all the nice conf under a machine on kernel 2.2, it doesnt work what could be the problem ? one of the choice answer was "kernel 2.2 doesnt support it" |
| 08:38.40 | chealer9 | netdaemon: it's not particularly clear, but you can count on it to happen RSN |
| 08:39.52 | roxy_ | coulix: what is lpi 101 exam ? |
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| 08:40.17 | streuner_ | coulix: the camera (device) don't support usb-storage, or/and you didn't tell your booloader to enable scsi-emulation |
| 08:40.25 | lex11 | hi |
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| 08:40.50 | lex11 | nee some help resiize sarge please |
| 08:40.55 | Dewi | when people describe a sequence of commands here, they usually say |
| 08:41.01 | Dewi | command && command2 && command3 |
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| 08:41.05 | coulix | linux professional institute jsut some certification about your linux level and i failed it ... shame on me. there were questions about dpkg and rpm ..., oreilly book 101 content was different on 3 chapters .. anyway ll redo it next week. |
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| 08:41.07 | Dewi | but almost never |
| 08:41.11 | Dewi | command; command2; command3 |
| 08:41.26 | Dewi | what's the practical difference between these two approaches to separating commands in bash? |
| 08:41.28 | roxy_ | coulix: good luck. |
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| 08:43.07 | Coweater | Dewi: command2 depends on command returning an exit status of 0 |
| 08:43.16 | Coweater | in the case of && that is |
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| 08:43.38 | jengelh | hey sparr |
| 08:43.59 | Bone_Thug | why is debian so shitty with hardware, it won't even detect my cd-rw drive |
| 08:43.59 | lex11 | I have sarge on /dev/hda1 38 gigs space unsed 30 gigs and tried to resize with gparted but it did not work it started then gave the unallocated spave then a few secondslater reverted back to normal partition size. |
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| 08:44.23 | Dewi | Bone_Thug: what do you mean "detect"? |
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| 08:44.33 | Bone_Thug | "recognize" |
| 08:44.50 | Trent- | how can i set a static DNS? |
| 08:44.58 | Dewi | Bone_Thug: so it didn't say "hello Bone_Thug. I recognise your cd-rw drive."? |
| 08:45.00 | streuner_ | coulix: CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=m (2.2.19) |
| 08:45.03 | Dewi | Bone_Thug: how rare. |
| 08:45.03 | Coweater | Bone_Thug: what have you tried? |
| 08:45.15 | lex11 | roxy_ hi any comments on my post |
| 08:45.25 | Bone_Thug | i have tried everything, im jsut gonna get another drive and try with that |
| 08:45.31 | coulix | hum so that wasnt the problem. |
| 08:45.35 | Coweater | ok fine, don't help me help you |
| 08:45.41 | coulix | idont remember the other choices.. |
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| 08:45.43 | Coweater | don't complain anymore either |
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| 08:46.20 | jm_ | darkness_: I am at work now, can't do it and you should never do such a thing |
| 08:46.28 | Dewi | Bone_Thug: everything, eh? I wish I had done everything today, but I just didn't find the time. |
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| 08:46.49 | tarzeau | how to create a favicon.ico in gimp? what size was it again? 16x16? |
| 08:46.51 | Trent- | how can i set a static DNS? |
| 08:46.59 | jengelh | tarzeau : 22x22 |
| 08:47.14 | jengelh | depends |
| 08:47.18 | streuner_ | tarzeau: some girls? ;-) |
| 08:47.19 | tarzeau | jengelh: http://www.linuxproblem.org/art_19.html says 16x16 |
| 08:47.26 | tarzeau | streuner_: girls what? |
| 08:47.29 | Dewi | tarzeau: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon |
| 08:47.45 | jengelh | tarzeau: At least in Windows Explorer, it will be shown in the default 32x32 or even larger |
| 08:47.48 | streuner_ | tarzeau: lesbian.mine.nu need a special favicon ;-) |
| 08:47.49 | Dewi | jengelh: 22x22 sounds unusual |
| 08:47.59 | jengelh | I'd say create 16 and 32 in one |
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| 08:48.17 | tarzeau | streuner_: true. no i was making one for my main page |
| 08:48.21 | streuner_ | tarzeau: go to www.debian.org, get its favicon and load it... |
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| 08:48.26 | tarzeau | streuner_: no that's ugly |
| 08:48.34 | Dewi | Trent-: have a look in /etc/resolv.conf, perhaps |
| 08:48.39 | tarzeau | streuner_: i'd never put a debian logo on my clothes |
| 08:48.42 | streuner_ | tarzeau: (to get the size) |
| 08:48.51 | Dewi | Trent-: assuming that file isn't auto-generated by the resolvconf program or anyway, you should be able to edit it |
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| 08:49.13 | Trent- | Dewi: i want to have the DNS set each time i boot, when i edit it from /etc/resolv.conf it resets each reboot |
| 08:49.22 | traian | hello |
| 08:49.29 | Bone_Thug | debian is so shitty with hardware, won't even detect my shit |
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| 08:49.32 | Dewi | Trent-: do you have resolveconf package installed? |
| 08:49.36 | traian | i got a problem with a deb package |
| 08:49.39 | traian | Preparing to replace x11-common 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 (using .../x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-5_all.deb) ... |
| 08:49.39 | traian | Unpacking replacement x11-common ... |
| 08:49.39 | traian | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-5_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 08:49.39 | traian | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.39 | traian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:49.47 | streuner_ | Bone_Thug: thank you for your statement |
| 08:49.54 | Trent- | Dewi: not to sure, apt-get install resolveconf ? |
| 08:49.54 | roxy_ | Is there any bounty system for debian ? I need granule working for this week. |
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| 08:50.06 | streuner_ | Bone_Thug: you want tell us what hardware you have |
| 08:50.12 | Bone_Thug | its useless man |
| 08:50.18 | Bone_Thug | i've been in linux channel |
| 08:50.26 | streuner_ | and |
| 08:50.27 | Howitzer | and this is a debian channel |
| 08:50.41 | Bone_Thug | he tried to help me, but he said he didn't know what th eprob was, and that my cd-rw wasn't being detected |
| 08:50.44 | Dewi | Trent-: sorry, it's actually called resolvconf |
| 08:50.57 | streuner_ | if linux (kernel) support your hardware, debian does it too |
| 08:51.07 | Dewi | Trent-: apt-cache policy resolvconf |
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| 08:51.15 | Dewi | Trent-: what does it say about "Installed:" ? |
| 08:51.16 | Bone_Thug | well, its an iomega cd-rw 52x drive |
| 08:51.37 | streuner_ | did you google for it? |
| 08:51.37 | traian | is there something wrong about the x11-comon deb package? |
| 08:51.39 | Bone_Thug | worked fine in windows though |
| 08:51.41 | Dewi | Bone_Thug: what the heck is "detect"? |
| 08:51.52 | Bone_Thug | well, recognize, or what have you |
| 08:51.52 | traian | cause i get an error unpacking it |
| 08:51.52 | streuner_ | Bone_Thug: linux isn't windows |
| 08:52.06 | Howitzer | everything works 'fine' in windows |
| 08:52.09 | Trent- | Dewi: 1.34 |
| 08:52.09 | Dewi | Bone_Thug: okay, to put it another way, how do you know it isn't being detected? |
| 08:52.12 | streuner_ | Bone_Thug: did you check out groups.google.com too? |
| 08:52.17 | Howitzer | it detects almost anything, but supplies REAL crappy drivers |
| 08:52.39 | Bone_Thug | um.....i can find the device , and i can't burn cd's |
| 08:52.42 | Dewi | Trent-: okay, then your resolv.conf is probably being managed by resolvconf. This is good, it's better than everybody editing the resolv.conf file manually |
| 08:52.51 | Dewi | Trent-: but it does mean you can't just edit it directly. give me a second. |
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| 08:53.04 | Bone_Thug | when i boootup, something fails, i think its hotplug or something, |
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| 08:53.16 | Dewi | Bone_Thug: can you read CDs with it? |
| 08:53.21 | Dewi | Bone_Thug: one thing at a time |
| 08:53.29 | streuner_ | Bone_Thug: you should see the device at least in 'dmesg' |
| 08:53.58 | streuner_ | Bone_Thug: if cdrecord or cdrdao supports it its another question |
| 08:54.00 | Bone_Thug | no, its not nowhere |
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| 08:54.20 | streuner_ | so its USB? |
| 08:54.21 | Dewi | Bone_Thug: ... not nowhere? I still don't understand where you're expecting to find it |
| 08:54.24 | jm_ | if it's not nowhere, it must be somewhere |
| 08:54.28 | Bone_Thug | i can't read cd's with it, or anything, the damn thing won't even show up in gnomebaker, nor any other program |
| 08:54.30 | streuner_ | haha |
| 08:54.33 | Trent- | Dewi: alright |
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| 08:54.43 | Ethiainen | heyas all |
| 08:54.49 | tarzeau | streuner_: that's crap. doesn't work |
| 08:54.50 | Howitzer | Bone_Thug, did you mount the damn thing? |
| 08:54.58 | tarzeau | streuner_: can you check my mainpage and look if there's a ball? |
| 08:54.59 | Dewi | Bone_Thug: stop saying you can't... you need to describe what you're expecting, and in what way your expectations are not met. Repeating that it won't work will not approach a solution to your problem. |
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| 08:55.14 | k-god | !tell Bone_Thug about smart questions |
| 08:55.15 | streuner_ | tarzeau: sorry no |
| 08:55.22 | tarzeau | streuner_: what does it show? |
| 08:55.43 | streuner_ | tarzeau: my desktop-box is broken, some mobo or CPU problem |
| 08:56.14 | k-god | Bone_Thug: You might want to answer some of the questions regarding type of device: internal or external, USB or ATA? |
| 08:56.17 | Bone_Thug | listen, right now, its plugged in, and its acting like its not plugged in |
| 08:56.24 | Bone_Thug | external usb |
| 08:56.28 | tarzeau | streuner_: oh it works! |
| 08:56.35 | tarzeau | but how to reload favicon when it changed? |
| 08:56.39 | k-god | Bone_Thug: OK, that's a start. 'lsmod | grep usb' |
| 08:56.40 | tarzeau | and how do i get transparency? |
| 08:57.05 | k-god | Bone_Thug: You're going to need a few modules installed, one sec. |
| 08:57.06 | jengelh | tarzeau : Uhm... there is only 'transparent' or 'not transparent' per pixel. |
| 08:57.12 | Dewi | Trent-: I'm sorry... I'm not sure how to manually specify an interface's DNS search using the resolvconf program. |
| 08:57.13 | Bone_Thug | this is a big ass circle, i jsut did all this lsmod , and -v stuff, in the other channel, ther eis no solution but i'll try again anway |
| 08:57.25 | tarzeau | jengelh: yes i want transparent |
| 08:57.28 | Trent- | Dewi: np, thanks anway |
| 08:57.29 | tarzeau | jengelh: gimp said ppm can't do it |
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| 08:57.44 | jengelh | ppm can't do it. |
| 08:57.47 | k-god | !tell Bone_Thug about usb cdburner |
| 08:57.58 | tarzeau | jengelh: png to ico? |
| 08:58.06 | jengelh | Use a format that supports transparency, e.g. png, ico, tga32, ... |
| 08:58.09 | k-god | Bone_Thug: We wouldn't know that if we weren't there. You're the one looking for help, we're the ones who might be able to help you. |
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| 08:58.13 | streuner_ | dpkg, usb cdburner |
| 08:58.13 | dpkg | it has been said that usb cdburner is enable these kernel drivers: ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support, SCSI emulation support, SCSI support, SCSI disk support, SCSI CD-ROM support, SCSI generic support, Probe all LUNs on each SCSI device, Support USB, Preliminary USB device filesystem, UHCI Alternative driver (if an x86 machine, usually), USB Mass Storage support |
| 08:58.15 | k-god | Bone_Thug: take it easy. |
| 08:58.15 | tarzeau | jengelh: and how go from png to ico? |
| 08:58.17 | jengelh | A favicon must be in .ico format, because otherwise MSIE won't read it. |
| 08:58.18 | Bone_Thug | the other guy said modprobe ehci-hcd |
| 08:58.24 | Dewi | Trent-: if you uninstalled that package you could just edit /etc/resolv.conf and it wouldn't get overwritten. But it'd probably be better for you to find out how resolvconf approaches the problem of manually adding a DNS |
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| 08:58.31 | jengelh | Uh, does not gimp have a save as .ico thing? |
| 08:58.33 | Dewi | Trent-: does your /etc/resolv.conf have anything in it now? |
| 08:58.35 | tarzeau | jengelh: no |
| 08:58.41 | jengelh | hm |
| 08:58.45 | jengelh | well I use a windows program :( |
| 08:58.45 | Dewi | jengelh: because .ico is a crazy and complicated windows format |
| 08:58.54 | streuner_ | Bone_Thug: what does 'cat /proc/version' say btw? |
| 08:59.04 | jengelh | if you don't care about MSIE, then you can use .png as a favicon |
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| 08:59.21 | Trent- | Dewi: search, nameserver 10.0.0.138 its only that because i have to edit it from 192.168.1.1 every time i boot |
| 08:59.29 | jengelh | But! |
| 08:59.33 | jengelh | My gimp has supprot fro .ICO |
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| 08:59.38 | Dewi | jengelh: most browsers might support using PNGs by now |
| 08:59.43 | jengelh | 11:00 shanghai:~ > rpm -q gimp |
| 08:59.43 | jengelh | gimp-2.2.8-6 |
| 08:59.52 | jengelh | Called "Microsoft Windows icon", .ico |
| 08:59.52 | karsten | Bone_Thug: k-god here, other machine. |
| 08:59.53 | Bone_Thug | here: http://pastebin.com/637298 |
| 09:00.13 | streuner_ | Bone_Thug: show us here |
| 09:00.14 | Dewi | Trent-: right |
| 09:00.21 | streuner_ | Bone_Thug: cat /proc/version |
| 09:00.25 | valdyn | Trent-: you have resolvconf installed, which manages your resolv.conf file, also according to the domain-name-server ( or similar ) entry in your /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 09:00.26 | Dewi | Trent-: do you have any idea why it is 192.168.1.1? |
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| 09:00.41 | Dewi | oh, thanks valdyn |
| 09:00.41 | karsten | Bone_Thug: cat /proc/scsi/scsi. See anything there? |
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| 09:00.47 | Dewi | Trent-: valdyn knows stuff! :D |
| 09:00.47 | Bone_Thug | Linux version 2.6.8-3-686 (root@lart) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Thu Feb 9 07:39:48 UTC 2006 |
| 09:00.53 | Bone_Thug | dman, hold on |
| 09:00.54 | Trent- | Dewi: Because of my router, it has a screwed up DNS |
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| 09:01.13 | streuner_ | that's a fucking custom kernel |
| 09:01.23 | ramini | i installed a x86_64 linux on a pentium 4 and it works!! is it ok or i will get problems later? |
| 09:01.29 | valdyn | Trent-: this looks like you use DHCP to configure your DNS but your DHCP server is broken ( your router ) |
| 09:01.36 | Dewi | Trent-: oh, via DHCP? well, maybe you can override it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:01.41 | Dewi | Trent-: but maybe you should just fix the router |
| 09:01.43 | Bone_Thug | karsten: Attached devices: |
| 09:01.47 | karsten | streuner_: We don't know that. It could still be a virgin. |
| 09:01.50 | Bone_Thug | thats the only ting, nothering was there |
| 09:01.51 | karsten | Bone_Thug: Nothing? |
| 09:01.54 | karsten | Bone_Thug: OK. |
| 09:01.54 | Bone_Thug | no |
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| 09:02.30 | karsten | Bone_Thug: Check 'dmesg' output as well, it may have registered the drive when you loaded modules. |
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| 09:02.44 | tarzeau | jengelh: sorry it can! |
| 09:02.47 | Trent- | Dewi: im going to take it back |
| 09:02.54 | Trent- | Dewi: or get a new one |
| 09:02.57 | valdyn | Trent-: you can supply a static setup for your network interfaces |
| 09:03.00 | bill__ | #flood |
| 09:03.15 | Trent- | valdyn: how can i do that? |
| 09:03.16 | Bone_Thug | dmesg of what? |
| 09:03.22 | Bone_Thug | i dind't load the module yet |
| 09:03.26 | valdyn | Trent-: 'man interfaces' |
| 09:03.32 | streuner_ | Bone_Thug: So why do you give statements about linux (kernel) and compile your own kernel? |
| 09:03.33 | karsten | Bone_Thug: 'dmesg' by itself. Pipe through less. |
| 09:03.52 | Bone_Thug | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:03.54 | Bone_Thug | returns true |
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| 09:04.04 | Bone_Thug | i put that in etc/modules right? |
| 09:04.05 | karsten | Bone_Thug: You've got some USB modules loaded. I think you're short SCSI. Run 'lsmod' and dump everything to pastebin.] |
| 09:04.48 | Bone_Thug | http://pastebin.com/637303 |
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| 09:06.03 | Bone_Thug | http://pastebin.com/637305 |
| 09:06.21 | rhalff | how do I kill a process that can't even be killed with kill -9 ? |
| 09:06.30 | valdyn | rhalff: you dont |
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| 09:06.34 | karsten | Bone_Thug: Thanks. Give me a minute. |
| 09:06.45 | Bone_Thug | karsten:...alright :| |
| 09:06.47 | jengelh | rhalff: by killing the kernel. |
| 09:06.47 | karsten | rhalff: It's already dead. You might try killing its parent. pstree -p | less |
| 09:07.03 | jengelh | D processes can't be killed and they are not dead either. Z is dead. |
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| 09:07.24 | valdyn | rhalff: if that process is stuck in D state there's nothing you can do about that |
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| 09:08.11 | rhalff | but strange, because it is still listening, it's a fcgi and still holds the portnumber 3000 |
| 09:08.25 | valdyn | rhalff: not strange |
| 09:08.43 | jengelh | D stands for disk io |
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| 09:08.55 | karsten | Bone_Thug: If you haven't already read it: http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html |
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| 09:09.44 | valdyn | rhalff_: it would probably go out of D state after a while.. |
| 09:10.50 | karsten | Bone_Thug: Do you have hotplug installed / enabled? |
| 09:11.27 | Bone_Thug | i think so, i saw it in bootup, something failed but im not sure what, it might ave been hotplug |
| 09:11.27 | karsten | Bone_Thug: 'apt-get install hotplug usbmgr' |
| 09:12.16 | karsten | Bone_Thug: That could be a problem. '/etc/init.d/hotplug stop; /etc/init.d/hotplug start'. Note any error messages. |
| 09:12.27 | karsten | Bone_Thug: You're not an orthopod by any chance? |
| 09:12.28 | Bone_Thug | karsten: avont@debian:~$ su |
| 09:12.28 | Bone_Thug | Password: |
| 09:12.28 | Bone_Thug | debian:/home/avont# apt-get install hotplug usbmgr |
| 09:12.29 | Bone_Thug | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 09:12.29 | Bone_Thug | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
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| 09:12.45 | Bone_Thug | or been moved out of Incoming. |
| 09:12.47 | Bone_Thug | The following information may help to resolve the situation: |
| 09:12.49 | Bone_Thug | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 09:12.51 | Bone_Thug | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:12.53 | Bone_Thug | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:12.55 | karsten | Bone_Thug: Don't flood. |
| 09:12.55 | Bone_Thug | E: Broken packages |
| 09:12.57 | Bone_Thug | debian:/home/avont# |
| 09:12.59 | Bone_Thug | oops |
| 09:13.00 | Trent- | valdyn: how can i set a static ip address? |
| 09:13.01 | Bone_Thug | that was an accident |
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| 09:13.03 | Bone_Thug | http://pastebin.com/637309 |
| 09:13.05 | Bone_Thug | i just said it was an accident |
| 09:13.05 | karsten | OK. |
| 09:13.45 | karsten | ah. What release level are you running? stable / unstable / testing ?] |
| 09:13.50 | Bone_Thug | stable |
| 09:13.58 | Bone_Thug | i think, im rpetty sure its stable |
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| 09:14.15 | ws006 | yo what's up bro |
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| 09:14.32 | karsten | Check: /etc/apt/sources.list. Should see something like "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 09:14.41 | karsten | ... except "stable" for "testing". |
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| 09:15.41 | Bone_Thug | in the first line |
| 09:15.43 | Bone_Thug | it says unstable |
| 09:15.52 | Bone_Thug | i could have sworn i burned stable though |
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| 09:16.08 | karsten | OK. Try 'apt-get update' the retry the install. You may only want one of those packages. |
| 09:16.08 | valdyn | Trent-: iface eth0 inet static \ address 192.168.1.1 \ netmask 255.255.255.0 ( \ = newline ) |
| 09:16.13 | ws006 | hei....sorry.are some of you who came from indonesian??? |
| 09:16.22 | karsten | ... or there could be a current conflict. That's what unstable does sometimes. |
| 09:16.33 | karsten | ws006: Sometimes. Big channel though. Why? |
| 09:16.37 | blondie | ws006: indonesian is a nationaliy, indonesia is the country |
| 09:16.44 | Trent- | valdyn: what about the static DNS? |
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| 09:17.16 | karsten | Bone_Thug: Try just hotplug, *not* usbmgr. |
| 09:17.25 | valdyn | Trent-: dns-nameservers 11.11.11.11 |
| 09:17.31 | liable | karsten: hotplug conflicts usbmgr |
| 09:17.34 | Trent- | valdyn: thanks |
| 09:17.39 | karsten | liable: I know, now ;-) |
| 09:17.57 | Bone_Thug | karsten: hotplug is arelady the nestest verison |
| 09:17.57 | liable | Bone_Thug: the cdline will say unstable, what about the ftp or http ones? |
| 09:18.07 | valdyn | Trent-: the last assumes you have resolconf installed.. |
| 09:18.15 | valdyn | Trent-: resolvconf even |
| 09:18.21 | karsten | Bone_Thug: OK. Restart it then. Make sure it comes up OK. /etc/init.d/hotplug restart |
| 09:18.21 | rhalff | ws006, aku bule aku ngakk mengerti :p |
| 09:18.32 | Bone_Thug | all of the http and ftp say stable |
| 09:18.44 | liable | Bone_Thug: thats fine then |
| 09:18.46 | karsten | Bone_Thug: Hrm. OK. |
| 09:18.47 | Bone_Thug | reboot computer? |
| 09:18.50 | karsten | Bone_Thug: No. |
| 09:19.00 | Bone_Thug | oh |
| 09:19.02 | Bone_Thug | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.03 | karsten | Bone_Thug: '/etc/init.d/hotplug restart' |
| 09:19.03 | Bone_Thug | hol don |
| 09:19.07 | rhalff | hmm is reboot the general sollution now for debian :) |
| 09:19.15 | karsten | rhalff: Next year. |
| 09:19.30 | Bone_Thug | suces , |
| 09:19.45 | Bone_Thug | igs sitl doing it |
| 09:19.47 | Bone_Thug | hold on a sec |
| 09:19.59 | Bone_Thug | done |
| 09:20.03 | Bone_Thug | now what? |
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| 09:20.08 | pjv | how do i ssh to a remote server and specify the password aswell with ssh. At this current time i can only ssh root@foobar.com but i am not sure how to set it with the password aswell |
| 09:20.11 | superlinux | hi all |
| 09:20.29 | valdyn | pjv: you dont do that |
| 09:20.30 | superlinux | i need a freeradius help |
| 09:20.31 | karsten | Bone_Thug: Put down the beer... |
| 09:20.43 | superlinux | in the clients.conf whose IP/mask should be in the clients IP/mask {} section ? |
| 09:20.56 | Bone_Thug | .lol.. |
| 09:21.00 | valdyn | pjv: why would you want to do that though? |
| 09:21.07 | karsten | Bone_Thug: Do you have a CD drive now? Check /proc/scsi/scsi again (cat it). |
| 09:21.08 | liable | pjv: i dont think its encrypted when you first start, so dont think you could send the password at the same time. |
| 09:21.25 | karsten | !tell pjv about ssh-agent |
| 09:21.31 | pjv | valdyn: huh? |
| 09:21.38 | pjv | i can't have it in one line? |
| 09:21.40 | karsten | pjv: Use ssh-agent. |
| 09:21.56 | Bone_Thug | no, i don't karsten :( |
| 09:21.59 | liable | whats wrong with just supplying it after anyway? |
| 09:22.05 | superlinux | in the /etc/freeradius/clients.conf whose IP/mask should be in the clients IP/mask {} section ? |
| 09:22.15 | karsten | !tell pjv about pubkey auth |
| 09:22.33 | Bone_Thug | should i reboot karsten? |
| 09:23.18 | karsten | Bone_Thug: Give it a shot. Note any error messages. |
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| 09:23.36 | Trent- | valdyn: in /etc/network/interfaces # The primary network interface auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static then the address/netmask etc, but now when i run ifconfig it doesnt display eth0 only lo |
| 09:24.11 | karsten | pjv: The whole idea of ssh is to *not* be cavilierly tossing your passwords around where others can nab them. Use key-based authentication, and ssh-agent for passwordless access in a secure manner. |
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| 09:28.00 | pjv | ahh i c thaks guys |
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| 09:28.18 | pjv | karsten: that' a nice tutorial ty |
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| 09:28.31 | karsten | pjv: NP. |
| 09:28.32 | Money | ok |
| 09:28.40 | Bone | ok |
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| 09:28.48 | superlinux | in the /etc/freeradius/clients.conf whose IP/mask should be in the clients IP/mask {} section ? is't the IP of the AP or the Supplicant? |
| 09:28.53 | Bone | i had to note this quick, so it may not be 100% accurate |
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| 09:29.24 | karsten | Bone: OK. |
| 09:29.30 | Bone | i got: no journal on filesystem on hda3, shpchp cabn't be loaded, pciehp, can't be loaded |
| 09:29.35 | Bone | ther was a list |
| 09:29.36 | Bone | it said |
| 09:29.44 | Bone | pci sucess |
| 09:29.46 | Bone | usb |
| 09:29.50 | Bone | usb success |
| 09:30.04 | Bone | and thats all i got |
| 09:30.13 | Bone | there was two usb's in the list, only one had success |
| 09:31.16 | sparr | dont you hate it when a program is broken in linux but the "same" program compiled in windows works? |
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| 09:32.08 | karsten | Bone: try: /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop; /etc/init.d/pcmcia start |
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| 09:32.26 | karsten | Doh. Nevermind. |
| 09:32.34 | karsten | This is USB, not pcmcia ;-) |
| 09:32.49 | ma3x | is there an easy way to split .avi file, and an easy way to join the splits under windows later? |
| 09:32.57 | karsten | !tell ma3x about split |
| 09:33.04 | Bone | debian:/home/avont# /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop |
| 09:33.04 | Bone | bash: /etc/init.d/pcmcia: No such file or directory |
| 09:33.09 | ma3x | !split |
| 09:33.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, split is what the name says, it splits files into pieces. split --bytes=1400000 FILE FILE_ to split; cat FILE_* > FILE to merge. |
| 09:33.09 | karsten | ma3x: Um. Nevermind that, but 'man split'. |
| 09:33.17 | karsten | Bone: Bad call on my part. |
| 09:33.21 | ma3x | okay |
| 09:33.25 | liable | avidemux and theres the windows one it was based one |
| 09:33.48 | ma3x | liable, avidemux is too complicated. it has to be something for newbies |
| 09:34.06 | jm_ | man avisplit |
| 09:34.14 | ma3x | karsten, and later how can I join the files in windows? |
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| 09:34.43 | karsten | ma3x: 'cat' will do it in Linux, Cygwin's cat in Windows. Not sure of other tools, though I think there are some. |
| 09:34.56 | karsten | ma3x: They're just bytestreams, anything that will append them will work. |
| 09:35.02 | jm_ | you can use copy in Windows to join it |
| 09:35.21 | karsten | jm_: The usual concern is globbing order. |
| 09:35.45 | wdamn | Hi, a good udev tutorial? |
| 09:35.48 | karsten | Bone: Head-scratcher here and I've got to get to sleep. |
| 09:35.49 | jm_ | karsten: absolutely, best to specify it by hand |
| 09:36.01 | ma3x | jm_, how can you join them with copy in windows? |
| 09:36.06 | Bone | alright |
| 09:36.10 | ma3x | copy is only for copying or? |
| 09:36.11 | Bone | i got to get to school |
| 09:36.16 | Bone | i'll look for you after school |
| 09:36.17 | karsten | jm_: Right, but split and shell globs usually work well. Windows 5.3s can fskc you up. |
| 09:36.27 | jm_ | ma3x: copy /b f1 + f2 + ... ma3x_home_porn.avi |
| 09:36.33 | karsten | Bone: Heh. Prolly won't be on for a bit, but it's a pretty good channel. |
| 09:36.35 | liable | heh |
| 09:36.37 | karsten | jm_: tsk, tsk... |
| 09:37.07 | ma3x | jm_, I didn't know that. nice f1 and f2 are the chunks? |
| 09:37.12 | rvsjoen | or just copy /? |
| 09:37.16 | jm_ | ma3x: filenames yes |
| 09:39.33 | evaded | Hi guys, 2 days ago i have begin to setup my tv card. Im happy, the last night i have done the job. It's perfectly working (just the remote controle that i need to find to setup, but that's a little detail) :-) Thanks guys/developers/Debian/... |
| 09:41.11 | evaded | So now the next challenge, that controle :-) First i need to know and read on the web howto with that remote controle. Someone tips, or can point me to the right way. It's my first setup i have do of an tv card. |
| 09:41.27 | jm_ | evaded: read about LIRC |
| 09:41.36 | evaded | jm_: :-) |
| 09:41.48 | tralala | evaded: www.lirc.org |
| 09:41.51 | jm_ | evaded: but it depends on wheter your paticular model is supported |
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| 09:42.33 | evaded | It's an Hercule smart tv (Brooktree Corporation Bt878) |
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| 09:43.05 | evaded | Thanks again guys :-) |
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| 09:47.40 | ma3x | I'm trying to burn a data CD with k3b and it's giving me this error: sending cue sheet, unable to send cue sheet, this may be caused by wrong settings |
| 09:47.43 | Slackadaca | hey I am using this trivia eggdrop script and it generates html status files, but I want to save them in /var/www/ so people can view them on the net, but it cannot write there. How can I get around this? |
| 09:47.49 | ma3x | but I don't see any cue sheet settings anywhere |
| 09:48.28 | jm_ | Slackadaca: write it where you can and then copy it as user who can write there |
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| 09:49.55 | evaded | Slackadaca: in '/tmp' for example |
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| 09:50.38 | ma3x | jm_, I've splitted my .avi file and now I can't burn it, it says unable to send cue sheet |
| 09:50.43 | ma3x | what's cue sheet? |
| 09:51.07 | Slackadaca | yer but I don't want to have to keep coping it everytime it updates |
| 09:51.40 | evaded | Slackadaca: Add an config to apache? |
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| 09:53.26 | evaded | Slackadaca: Take for example that you save it in '/home/that_trivia_user_only' and add it to the config of apache?? So that ther a an subdir more in http://localhost/html_trivia_thing |
| 09:53.34 | jm_ | Slackadaca: so use ~/public_html |
| 09:53.53 | jm_ | ma3x: I can't help you with that, I don't use k3b |
| 09:54.03 | ma3x | ok |
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| 09:56.31 | evaded | ma3x: Look on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_sheet for example?? |
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| 09:56.44 | Slackadaca | jm_, how do I get public html to work? |
| 09:56.48 | kijjaz | i'm using KDE on Debian stable -> how do i configure KDE to automount a USB Thumbdrive when? inserted? |
| 09:57.06 | kijjaz | oh i mean when inserted. |
| 09:57.17 | liable | usbmount? |
| 09:57.24 | evaded | Slackadaca: make an dir 'public_html' in you're home drive, simply |
| 09:57.54 | evaded | Slackadaca: Then point your browser to 'http://localhost/~that_user' |
| 09:58.21 | ma3x | evaded, more or less I know what a cue sheet is. But why is k3b trying to send a .cue when I only want to burn data cd with one file |
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| 09:58.58 | evaded | ma3x: I not know imediatly :-/ |
| 09:59.37 | ma3x | evaded, okay I fixed it |
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| 10:00.41 | evaded | Slackadaca: Done? |
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| 10:01.31 | Slackadaca | yep |
| 10:01.32 | Slackadaca | thanks |
| 10:01.48 | evaded | Slackadaca: ;-) |
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| 10:03.24 | kijjaz | liable: wow.. thanks.. i've finished apt-get install'ing usbmount.. now gonna try it out.. |
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| 10:04.13 | liable | kijjaz: read the docs for it though. |
| 10:04.20 | kijjaz | liable: what do you suggest? oh ok thanks. |
| 10:05.15 | liable | kijjaz: you need to run sync iirc before you unplug, otherwise you might loose data. |
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| 10:07.15 | tralala | I'm using my usb sticks with autofs. The unmount time is 5secs so when I'm done with the stick I just need to wait a bit and unplug it. Don't need root use it at all. |
| 10:07.18 | tralala | to use it* |
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| 10:08.07 | jm_ | yeah I use autofs too at work and hotplug at home |
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| 10:11.38 | tralala | jm_: hotplug? Can you use hotplug for unmounting the stick? |
| 10:12.02 | jm_ | tralala: no, I unmount it manually, it's just mounted automatically |
| 10:12.11 | sparr | I have a sprite that was designed for a game with palette color cycling. I have the sprite's bitmap, and the color palette. What program can I use to most easily produce each shifted version of the sprite? |
| 10:12.41 | jm_ | sparr: xpm format is pretty simple |
| 10:13.08 | sparr | jm_: heh, id really rather not do it in a text editor by hand :) |
| 10:13.28 | jm_ | sparr: well some sort of script, you would just change the colour valuse |
| 10:13.30 | jm_ | values |
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| 10:15.58 | evaded | sparr: Gimp with kungfu scripting ?? |
| 10:16.03 | sparr | jm_: i was hoping some image editor might have a 'rotate palette' option :( |
| 10:16.12 | sparr | evaded: yeah, script-fu could do it. |
| 10:16.23 | sparr | if im gonna go that route ill just get imagemagick to do it |
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| 10:20.28 | Trent- | how can i upgrade from stable to testing? |
| 10:21.10 | sep | !stable->testing |
| 10:21.29 | sep | !test |
| 10:21.29 | dpkg | Sorry, sep, I didn't get your test. |
| 10:21.41 | sep | !stable->testing |
| 10:21.52 | jm_ | try sarge instead of stable |
| 10:22.00 | sep | jm_, works in msg |
| 10:22.07 | sep | !sarge->testing |
| 10:22.16 | jm_ | hmm weird |
| 10:22.34 | sep | !tell Trent- about stable->testing |
| 10:22.42 | sep | that worked too i think |
| 10:23.02 | Trent- | yep |
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| 10:24.54 | evaded | Yep, strange 'sarge->testing' & 'stable->testing' by dpkg |
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| 10:25.11 | jm_ | maybe it does this if factoid is veyr long |
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| 10:26.22 | evaded | hhhmmm |
| 10:26.29 | sep | unlikely sarge->etch is not that long |
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| 10:27.19 | jm_ | !+stable->testing |
| 10:27.19 | dpkg | Sarge too old for you already? Edit your sources.list ('editor /etc/apt/sources.list'), change all non-local mentions of 'sarge' or 'stable' to 'testing', and replace the security.debian.org line by a testing security line (ask me about testing security). Save the file, then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. Then subscribe to d-d-a (/msg dpkg d-d-a) or I will come and pour hot grits down your pants. ask me about downgrade |
| 10:27.40 | SJr|nx | If I have a bash script, owned by root. How can I set it so that all users will execute the script as root. |
| 10:27.47 | jm_ | SJr: you can't |
| 10:27.52 | SJr|nx | really? |
| 10:27.56 | SJr|nx | what does setUID do? |
| 10:28.02 | jm_ | it doesn't work on scripts |
| 10:28.06 | SJr|nx | ah really |
| 10:28.08 | SJr|nx | why not? |
| 10:28.11 | sep | !sudo |
| 10:28.11 | dpkg | methinks sudo is (SUperuser DO) better than su, according to talon.It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
| 10:28.35 | sep | !why not |
| 10:28.35 | dpkg | because I don't like you |
| 10:28.58 | evaded | lol |
| 10:29.00 | SJr|nx | uh oh |
| 10:29.04 | sep | SJr|nx, becouse your not trusted to write secure scripts |
| 10:29.14 | SJr|nx | Lol |
| 10:29.40 | SJr|nx | I installed a new kernel, dpkg borked, I restarted, removed it, installed an old version, and now when I tried to install sudo, it just finished setting up the new kernel. |
| 10:29.43 | Coweater | it would require the executable that runs the script to be setuid |
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| 10:32.32 | dimir | setUID bash! |
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| 10:32.42 | Howitzer | How do i force debian to use automake1.9 instead of automake1.4b? |
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| 10:33.06 | jm_ | I think HP-UX 9 has shell with suid bit, or at least our faculty had it that way and we simply copied it to ~/bin :P |
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| 10:33.11 | SJr|nx | Hmmmm question about sudo, any problems with settintg sudo on ssh? |
| 10:33.16 | SJr|nx | for a user? |
| 10:33.25 | jm_ | what's the point of using sudo for ssh |
| 10:33.26 | dimir | jmg: :-D |
| 10:33.33 | dimir | oops, jm_ |
| 10:33.35 | SJr|nx | so I can forward privledged ports. |
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| 10:35.18 | sep | SJr|nx, i'd rather just use a nonpriveleged port. |
| 10:35.21 | user__ | how can i delete packages downloaded by apt-get? |
| 10:35.29 | jm_ | user__: man apt-get |
| 10:35.30 | valdyn | SJr|nx: why should users be allowed to forward privileged ports? |
| 10:35.30 | sep | user__, apt-get clean |
| 10:35.39 | user__ | thanks |
| 10:35.50 | sep | user__, man apt-get is a more sane thing to do |
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| 10:36.00 | SJr|nx | valdyn because its my notebook on my personal notebook. |
| 10:36.13 | valdyn | SJr|nx: so? |
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| 10:36.18 | SJr|nx | Basically I'm just forwarding all the ports thru my other linux machine, but I want to do it at the click of a button, and not have to put a password in. |
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| 10:36.32 | valdyn | SJr|nx: man sudo |
| 10:36.37 | user__ | man man |
| 10:37.11 | user__ | sometimes its easier to ask |
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| 10:37.54 | valdyn | user__: diffulty to respond to the question is probably what matters. |
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| 10:38.03 | Howitzer | Hello?, how do i update automake? (sudo apt-get install automake1.9 doesn't update) |
| 10:38.30 | vladimir_lt | hi all! does anyone use aDSL modems here? |
| 10:38.32 | valdyn | Howitzer: via update-alternatives |
| 10:39.11 | tralala | vladimir_lt: do you have a problem with debian and an adsl modem? |
| 10:39.15 | Howitzer | valdyn, could you specify? |
| 10:39.24 | Howitzer | sudo apt-get install update-alternatives? :x |
| 10:39.31 | tralala | Howitzer: man update-alternatives |
| 10:40.09 | vladimir_lt | tralala, not yet =) i would like to choose a modem, since i am migrating from gentoo/LAN to debian/aDSL |
| 10:40.34 | vladimir_lt | thinkink of choosing between ericsson & nokia modems |
| 10:41.15 | vladimir_lt | would not like to have any problems or buy a router |
| 10:42.01 | tralala | vladimir_lt: I think this is more of a linux question, then a debian one. You might get better advice in #linux. Any modem that work with linux will work with debian/linux as well |
| 10:43.07 | vladimir_lt | ok. sorry for interrupting. |
| 10:43.21 | jm_ | why would you buy an ADSL modem on your own? |
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| 10:45.32 | GNU_Style | wheres that motor guy? |
| 10:45.47 | liable | huh? |
| 10:46.12 | henk | hi the 'lsi MEGARAID 320' an actual hardware raid board or it is fake/software raid ? can anyone tell me how to find out ? |
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| 10:46.41 | tarzeau | how to install nvidia nonfree drivers? |
| 10:46.44 | GNU_Style | that guys that ask me about those wiper motors last night |
| 10:46.46 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: hey that's me |
| 10:46.52 | jm_ | tarzeau: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 10:46.56 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: snow.ethz.ch/car/ |
| 10:46.59 | GNU_Style | tarzeau: ./NVIDIA-xxxxxx |
| 10:47.19 | GNU_Style | tarzeau: you need build-essentials and kernel-headers as weel |
| 10:47.25 | fireba11 | henk: found no board with a real PATA or SATA raid onboard so far |
| 10:47.25 | GNU_Style | and gcc-3.4 |
| 10:47.28 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: i've got the motors here, i'll try giving it 12V this afternoon |
| 10:47.50 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: gcc 3.3.5 shoudl work too, no? |
| 10:47.58 | tarzeau | i've got kernel headers and kernel sources |
| 10:48.29 | liable | henk: take a look here (bit outdated though) http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
| 10:48.31 | GNU_Style | tarzeau: it depends upon the kernel. the NVIDIA installer tells you a warning that im must use a certain gcc version |
| 10:48.42 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: EXTRAVERSION was wrong i guess |
| 10:48.46 | GNU_Style | tarzeau: the motors are working? |
| 10:48.59 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: i very much hope they do, haven't tried yet |
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| 10:50.00 | henk | liable / fireba11 it is not satait is SCSI |
| 10:50.27 | GNU_Style | tarzeau: wats EXTRAVERSION? |
| 10:50.36 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: the Makefile ... |
| 10:50.42 | GNU_Style | ic |
| 10:50.59 | GNU_Style | I tried something like CC=3.4 export CC |
| 10:51.08 | GNU_Style | wat kernel are you in? |
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| 10:51.45 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: 2.6.16.1 |
| 10:52.06 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: perfect worked. it really just was the wrong extraversion. |
| 10:52.18 | GNU_Style | i think kernel 2.6.x.x.x was compiled using gcc-3.4 |
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| 10:52.33 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: we build our own kernels... |
| 10:52.37 | tarzeau | !dphys |
| 10:52.37 | dpkg | from memory, dphys is http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys3/, or http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys-kernel-packages/ we build kernels with patched in supermount,sk98lin v2,nvnet for p1-1gb p1-smp-1gb p3-1gb p3-smp-1gb p3-smp-4gb p4-1gb p4-4gb p4-smp-4gb p4-smp-64gb k7-1gb k7-4gb k7-64gb k7-smp-4gb k7-smp-64gb and modules for 3w-9xxx, NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-7174, alsa-driver-1.0.10, openafs-1.4.0, vmware-modules-4.5.2 |
| 10:52.45 | tarzeau | and also k8-* now |
| 10:52.51 | fausto | hi, to abiliting highmem should i recompile kernel, or i can only configure support with modconf |
| 10:52.52 | fausto | ?? |
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| 10:53.23 | liable | fausto: rebuild, but debian kernels have support up to 4G |
| 10:54.10 | fausto | liable, i have 2.4.27-2-386 kernel on debain sarge |
| 10:54.29 | liable | fausto: oh, i dunno about 2.4 kernels, grep the config |
| 10:55.09 | fausto | liable, i get this message in dmesg fausto Warning only 896MB will be used. |
| 10:55.09 | fausto | fausto Use a HIGHMEM enabled kernel. |
| 10:55.09 | fausto | fausto 896MB LOWMEM available. |
| 10:55.18 | evaded | I try to install 'lirc' but they complain about some depencies. http://pastebin.com/637416 The dumb question; is that normal? Running Stable |
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| 10:56.05 | liable | fausto: how much memory you got? |
| 10:56.08 | Ward | Anyone knows where iplimit (iptables -m iplimit module) is gone in debian Sarge? |
| 10:56.18 | jm_ | evaded: you're not installing lirc from Sarge |
| 10:56.30 | fausto | 1,25 gb |
| 10:56.40 | tralala | evaded: you need to compile and install the lirc module first |
| 10:56.55 | liable | fausto: you have a reason not to use a 2.6 kernel? |
| 10:57.37 | evaded | jm_: Is Sarge here :-/ |
| 10:57.56 | evaded | tralala: So i need first install 'lirc-modules-source'? |
| 10:57.59 | jm_ | evaded: no, lirc in Sarge doesn't depend on libc6 (>=2.3.5-1) |
| 10:58.01 | fausto | mmm no, but i prefer 2.4 |
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| 10:58.33 | evaded | jm_: Hmm, so i have do an milkshake with my sourcelist i guess?? |
| 10:58.34 | fausto | and with 2.6 i must edit with hexedit a module to get my gigabyte lan card working |
| 10:58.34 | blowfish | hello |
| 10:58.41 | blowfish | i got some problem with logrotate |
| 10:58.41 | tralala | evaded: yes, then you need to follow the instructions of the README to create a lirc-modules package |
| 10:58.42 | jm_ | evaded: something like that |
| 10:58.46 | blowfish | it failed to rotate all my logs |
| 10:58.49 | blowfish | and i dont realy know whyt |
| 10:59.36 | jm_ | blowfish: was machine powered on when it was supposed to do it? |
| 10:59.51 | fausto | liable, in your opinion the better way for me is rebuilding kernel or installing a 2.6 kernel |
| 10:59.52 | fausto | ?? |
| 10:59.54 | blowfish | jm_ yes it is powered |
| 10:59.57 | blowfish | and ever more |
| 11:00.02 | blowfish | i can type into it |
| 11:00.08 | blowfish | isn't this a wonder |
| 11:00.08 | blowfish | ? |
| 11:00.11 | evaded | jm_: I remember that i have found a day before change to 'apt-proxy' an 'experimental' entrie im my source.list :-/ So im dead i guess?? |
| 11:00.13 | jm_ | blowfish: no, not now, when logrotate should do its job |
| 11:00.33 | blowfish | jm_ yes |
| 11:00.33 | jm_ | evaded: check versions of some base packages |
| 11:00.44 | blowfish | is it online 24/7 |
| 11:00.45 | jm_ | blowfish: so you can verify if cron job has started then |
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| 11:00.52 | liable | fausto: well, installing a 2.6 .deb takes about 2 minutes. rebuilding a kernel is a lot longer and you might fuck it up a few times till you get it right. |
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| 11:01.04 | blowfish | jm_ i presume i can verify |
| 11:01.05 | evaded | jm_: I not know how to do that :-/ i not know good all the versions and so ... |
| 11:01.06 | liable | fausto: please yourself i guess. |
| 11:01.09 | blowfish | to be onest i dont know how to verify that |
| 11:01.13 | jm_ | evaded: dpkg -s libc6 to start with |
| 11:01.23 | jm_ | it will be in your logs |
| 11:02.04 | blowfish | jm_ no logs are rotate |
| 11:02.05 | blowfish | nothing |
| 11:02.18 | jm_ | blowfish: I don't understand this statement |
| 11:02.25 | GNU_Style | tarzeau: ever tested it yet? |
| 11:02.42 | blowfish | jm_ meaning my logs are in appending |
| 11:02.46 | blowfish | instead of rotating |
| 11:02.48 | evaded | Pastebin'ed - Output of 'dpkg -s libc6' http://pastebin.com/637428 |
| 11:03.00 | jm_ | blowfish: yes, I know that from before, but check if the cron job has started |
| 11:03.27 | evaded | Btw, running Stable with ... ^^^ its looks |
| 11:03.31 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: yes nvidia is solved now |
| 11:03.34 | jm_ | evaded: that's Sarge |
| 11:03.44 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: for the pufu device motors, when i get to it |
| 11:03.44 | fausto | kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp is it good |
| 11:03.47 | evaded | jm_: Yep, Is right so? |
| 11:03.48 | fausto | i have a xeon.. |
| 11:03.50 | blowfish | ya it starts |
| 11:03.51 | GNU_Style | yah ok, |
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| 11:04.03 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: i'll keep you updated on the pufu thing :) |
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| 11:04.17 | jm_ | evaded: well at least that looks OK, but why is it installing lirc from some other repo? apt-cache policy lirc |
| 11:04.19 | GNU_Style | debian "sarge" is kinda outdated any newer STABLE version? |
| 11:04.23 | GNU_Style | tarzeau: ok thanks |
| 11:04.31 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: you can use stable+backports.org |
| 11:04.34 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: or sid |
| 11:04.35 | phyrster | is there a way to measure copy speed between hard disks? |
| 11:04.48 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: sid+expermental. some people seem to use testing |
| 11:04.52 | phyrster | or show progress bar and copy speed when copying? |
| 11:04.54 | tarzeau | phyrster: yes |
| 11:05.01 | tarzeau | phyrster: sdd and dd can show details |
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| 11:05.30 | evaded | jm_: http://pastebin.com/637432 i see it now |
| 11:05.32 | phyrster | tarzeau: but that is not normal copy operation. |
| 11:05.47 | rudy__ | I have usb mouse. What file is it in /dev dir? |
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| 11:05.51 | blowfish | jm_ so crontab is working |
| 11:05.54 | tarzeau | phyrster: you use cp? mc has progress bar |
| 11:05.54 | blowfish | at least for the users |
| 11:06.04 | jm_ | blowfish: did it start daily job? |
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| 11:06.08 | GNU_Style | im having trouble installing etch, it offers to partition all my HDD, and theres no manually edit partition option |
| 11:06.13 | jm_ | evaded: so you know which one to remove |
| 11:06.19 | phyrster | tarzeau: I want to test cp speed. |
| 11:06.22 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: the d-i beta2 of etch? |
| 11:06.28 | evaded | jm_: I # that line, or better remove it. |
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| 11:06.34 | blowfish | i have no ideea to verify that |
| 11:06.36 | YoyoBob | my number is 1-206-203-6552 |
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| 11:06.43 | tarzeau | phyrster: time cp what ever |
| 11:06.46 | evaded | jm_: deb http://debian.jox.be ./ :-? |
| 11:06.53 | evaded | jm_: Yes i know |
| 11:06.55 | jm_ | evaded: yes |
| 11:07.41 | phyrster | tarzeau: I don't have a man page for 'time' |
| 11:07.53 | tarzeau | phyrster: install manpages then |
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| 11:08.45 | tarzeau | phyrster: err install "time" |
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| 11:09.29 | GNU_Style | tarzeau: the latest ETCH offered in debian's site |
| 11:09.48 | ma3x | any good mathematican to correct me, if I'm wrong: |
| 11:09.49 | blowfish | jm_ yes it runs the cron.daily |
| 11:09.52 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: i can't believe the removed manual partiitoning... |
| 11:10.14 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: this you mean, right? http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 11:10.23 | phyrster | tarzeau: ... which pkg has time? are you sure about what you are saying? |
| 11:10.31 | tarzeau | phyrster: apt-get install time |
| 11:10.47 | jm_ | blowfish: ok, in that case it should have started logrotate too, unless you have mocked with /etc/cron.daily/logrotate, /usr/sbin/logrotate, and /etc/logrotate.conf might also cause such behaviour |
| 11:10.57 | jm_ | blowfish: try -d and 0v |
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| 11:11.13 | GNU_Style | tarzeau: yah thats it |
| 11:11.19 | ma3x | if we take 768:576 (with ratio 1.3333) and both of those numbers are with 8 devidable. so the next smaller number where both numbers keep the same ratio and are at the same time devidable is 576:432 |
| 11:11.36 | evaded | jm_: Solved :-) done that bad sourcelist Thanks man ;-) |
| 11:11.39 | ma3x | *and are at the same time with 8 devidable |
| 11:11.45 | ma3x | am I right or wrong? |
| 11:11.55 | blowfish | jm did u mean logrotate -d -f nameofthescriptlogrotatefile? |
| 11:12.32 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: i haven't tried that one yet. know #debian-boot ? |
| 11:12.36 | jm_ | blowfish: I meant edit the cronjob and add -v -d options to find out what is going on |
| 11:12.36 | evaded | Crazy guys, grazy :-) Thanks here again :-) |
| 11:12.49 | GNU_Style | wats in that channel? |
| 11:12.55 | phyrster | tarzeau: thank you |
| 11:12.56 | tarzeau | GNU_Style: the development of d-i |
| 11:14.08 | blowfish | jm_ i found the problem |
| 11:14.09 | GNU_Style | ohh ok |
| 11:14.16 | blowfish | duplicate statement in /etc/logrotate.d dir |
| 11:14.21 | blowfish | 2 files who does the same think |
| 11:14.23 | blowfish | thanks for the info |
| 11:14.23 | jm_ | blowfish: ok |
| 11:14.23 | ma3x | if we take 768:576 (with ratio 1.3333) , both of those numbers are with 8 devidable. what's the next two smaller numbers that can be both devided by 8 and keep the same 1.33 ratio |
| 11:14.26 | blowfish | i presume that is the problem |
| 11:14.26 | blowfish | :P |
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| 11:16.19 | rudy__ | I have usb mouse. How can I configure it. What file (device) is it in /dev dir? |
| 11:16.30 | liable | !usbmouse |
| 11:16.30 | dpkg | well, usbmouse is [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe {usb}hid and mousedev by hand); [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X. On a modern system only [5] is necessary. |
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| 11:16.46 | tarzeau | how can i run make only for say 10 commands of the default target? |
| 11:16.49 | tarzeau | running make on linux kernel source updates version.h which i need updated by EXTRAVERSION, but without all the rest it does |
| 11:18.13 | valdyn | tarzeau: make oldconfig does that, no? |
| 11:18.42 | tarzeau | valdyn: really it does? |
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| 11:20.16 | liable | rudy__: you use dpkg to reconfigure x for the mouse. |
| 11:20.21 | liable | !drxx rudy__ |
| 11:20.22 | dpkg | rudy__: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 11:20.33 | tarzeau | valdyn: pity it doesn't |
| 11:21.01 | liable | rudy__: see what dpkg said ^^ about the /dev (/dev/input/mice) |
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| 11:21.55 | darkness_ | Can someone help me with errors i'm getting while trying to run hostsdeny? |
| 11:22.06 | tarzeau | valdyn: well i can edit version.h myself, hope it's enough |
| 11:22.56 | liable | tarzeau: make-prepare?? |
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| 11:23.58 | tarzeau | liable: AWWWWW MY HERO |
| 11:24.22 | liable | hehe |
| 11:25.22 | darkness_ | Any good reason why i get the error on running denyhosts? DenyHosts could not obtain lock (pid: 12335) |
| 11:25.24 | tarzeau | liable: you know what's funny? |
| 11:25.29 | tarzeau | liable: they couldn't tell me in ##linux |
| 11:25.38 | valdyn | tarzeau: hmm: 'make include/linux/version.h' |
| 11:25.48 | liable | tarzeau: heh, shoulda asked in #slackware |
| 11:25.54 | tarzeau | valdyn: that doesn't do it |
| 11:26.16 | tarzeau | liable: i'll leave ##linux , i've never seen such a lame script kiddy place before |
| 11:26.24 | valdyn | tarzeau: oh it does for me |
| 11:26.24 | tarzeau | liable: worse than ircnet #groupsex |
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| 11:27.08 | tarzeau | valdyn: the same like make prepare? 2.6? |
| 11:27.20 | liable | hah, i dont know whats funnier, calling ##linux for script kiddies or the fact you been to #groupsex :) |
| 11:27.24 | ramini | my firefox shuts down suddenly when i want to visit some webpages, what is the problem?! |
| 11:27.26 | yoo | Hi ! |
| 11:27.32 | valdyn | tralala: prepare just does a few more things, it seems to me |
| 11:27.36 | yoo | Is it possible to add a heading with date to a tar archive ? |
| 11:27.43 | tarzeau | valdyn: yes and updating version.h is one i need |
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| 11:28.41 | valdyn | http://paste.debian.net/5668 |
| 11:28.50 | yoo | with option --label ? |
| 11:28.50 | yoo | but how ? |
| 11:28.50 | yoo | i want see a date when i extract the backup to my tape |
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| 11:30.38 | blondie | ramini: how should we know? |
| 11:31.33 | blondie | yoo: --label `date +%blah` |
| 11:31.59 | blondie | read the date man page for how to specify the date |
| 11:32.06 | yoo | blondie, what' %blah ? |
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| 11:32.17 | yoo | oki |
| 11:32.18 | blondie | %blah is the time stamp format |
| 11:32.35 | yoo | thanks |
| 11:33.18 | blondie | like %Y-%m-%d = 2006-04-03 |
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| 11:34.20 | yoo | ok |
| 11:37.31 | a1010 | Hi, how to create a guest account in debian? |
| 11:37.49 | tarzeau | a1010: hehe. like what? |
| 11:38.02 | tarzeau | adduser guest ? |
| 11:38.13 | liable | eww, why does cnn give me a windows executable to watch a fucking video! |
| 11:38.27 | tarzeau | liable: haha |
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| 11:39.00 | a1010 | I just need a guest account |
| 11:39.22 | GNU_Style | liable: cnn-news, is not cnn, its a hoax |
| 11:39.30 | liable | tarzeau: quite scary really. cant even watch a damn news clip without some damn crappy viewer trying to install itself. |
| 11:39.38 | liable | GNU_Style: oh, is it? |
| 11:39.55 | liable | is it from 1/4?? |
| 11:39.56 | tarzeau | a1010: just adduser guest |
| 11:40.02 | GNU_Style | liable: yah |
| 11:40.20 | liable | GNU_Style: what does it do? you know? |
| 11:40.44 | GNU_Style | spread non true news like UFO landing |
| 11:40.49 | liable | heh |
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| 11:41.12 | kblin | hi |
| 11:41.24 | liable | thats the third damn aprils fool joke i fell for. starting to tink i am gullible.. |
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| 11:42.04 | a1010 | Isn't there a security hole in guest? |
| 11:42.11 | tarzeau | !harden-doc |
| 11:42.12 | dpkg | it has been said that harden-doc is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html#contents |
| 11:42.13 | tarzeau | a1010: read that |
| 11:42.34 | tarzeau | a1010: you just want the user to do what? websurfing? |
| 11:42.38 | tarzeau | www.linuks.mine.nu/kiosk/ |
| 11:42.57 | kblin | I'm looking for an IDS that can temporarily block IPs from accessing my sshd.. any recommendations? |
| 11:42.59 | tarzeau | i owe you one, if you find a security hole. |
| 11:43.06 | tarzeau | oh and bugs in the browser are not my problem |
| 11:43.19 | tarzeau | kblin: just run your sshd on a different port than 22 |
| 11:43.22 | liable | kblin: fail2ban |
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| 11:43.36 | liable | kblin: or rescent iptables module |
| 11:43.43 | liable | recent |
| 11:43.52 | jengelh | kblin: ipt_recent |
| 11:43.58 | jengelh | ipt_expire |
| 11:44.04 | a1010 | thanks, I'm just blind |
| 11:44.11 | sep | are there any php accelerators/caches that works with ez_publish. packaged in debian ? |
| 11:44.16 | kblin | tarzeau: not really an option... too many puzzled users |
| 11:44.24 | mypapit | kblin: http://freshmeat.net/projects/blocksshd/ |
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| 11:44.33 | tarzeau | kblin: how many? |
| 11:44.34 | kblin | liable, jengelh: thanks, looking |
| 11:44.49 | kblin | tarzeau: I figure all 50 of them... |
| 11:44.57 | kblin | tarzeau: not counting the pool students |
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| 11:45.13 | tarzeau | kblin: ok then i agree |
| 11:45.35 | kblin | tarzeau: besides, the university likes blocking non-ssh ports at random sometimes |
| 11:45.47 | Maulkin | hmm, my function - shift, alt and ctrl - keys seem tio haev stopped working under gnome. now, xev sees them and has the correct mapping. any ideas? don't really want to retstart x as a have a vm machine doing a nice long compile at the moment |
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| 11:46.09 | peej | I had debian sort of installed from a knoppix cd. Then the ext3fs got corrupted (not a hardware glitch as fcar as I can figure out). now during start up, init script for mount does not find devfs. Suggestions? |
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| 11:46.40 | petykooo | hi |
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| 11:47.11 | tarzeau | kblin: oh that's bad |
| 11:47.19 | tarzeau | petykooo: using debootstrap? |
| 11:47.26 | Maulkin | peej: try fsck. however, as it's knoppix, i'd suggest #knoppix |
| 11:47.27 | peej | a mount -o remount /dev/hda5 fixes it after login btw. but half the init.d scripts need root to be rw to get going. |
| 11:47.31 | luffy | hi everybody |
| 11:47.36 | tarzeau | peej: using debootstrap? |
| 11:47.40 | wols_ | tarzeau: you're always the optimist |
| 11:47.44 | tarzeau | wols_: heh :) |
| 11:47.56 | tarzeau | wols_: he said he installed debian. not knoppix |
| 11:48.07 | wols_ | as if he knew the difference |
| 11:48.11 | luffy | I am trying to comile a kernel but it's getting stuck at the same place every time I try |
| 11:48.20 | luffy | compile* |
| 11:48.28 | tarzeau | peej: did you install some special kernel? |
| 11:48.30 | wols_ | luffy: what error? |
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| 11:48.49 | tarzeau | wols_: you know when you are sure he's not got debian you can lart him, without sorry |
| 11:48.49 | peej | tarzeau : knoppix 2.6.11 default. |
| 11:48.59 | tarzeau | peej: DAMN YOU CAN'T YOU READ /TOPIC? |
| 11:49.10 | Tagory | Hi |
| 11:49.19 | tarzeau | wtf who removed "this is not #knoppix"? |
| 11:49.19 | wols_ | tarzeau: I wanted to ask him actually, but then I asked myself: why bother? |
| 11:49.31 | wols_ | and I'd been nicer to him :P |
| 11:49.32 | tarzeau | wols_: you're so right. but it wasn't even weekend |
| 11:49.37 | wols_ | peej: you're in the wrong channel |
| 11:49.57 | wols_ | everyday is sunday :) |
| 11:50.05 | Tagory | Can someone tell me what the command is to configure my network? Something like base-config |
| 11:50.10 | luffy | usr/src/kernel-sources-2.4.27/fs/xfs/xfs_iget.c:604: undefined reference to 'vn_mark_bad' make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 |
| 11:50.15 | tarzeau | Tagory: emacs /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:50.17 | jm_ | Tagory: man interfaces |
| 11:50.19 | wols_ | Tagory: man interfaces |
| 11:50.26 | peej | tarzeau : I am trying to install and run debian from the initial get-the-machine-going set up. |
| 11:50.30 | wols_ | tarzeau: ew! |
| 11:50.30 | blondie | tarzeau: vim not emacs |
| 11:50.34 | jm_ | also /msg dpkg interfaces |
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| 11:50.54 | jm_ | there's also etherconf |
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| 11:50.59 | liable | wols_: /topic never had this is not #knoppix, its #ubuntu |
| 11:51.00 | luffy | wols: can you give me some clue? |
| 11:51.09 | wols_ | peej: you are installing knoppix onto harddisk. NOT debian. or how do you try to install it? what program(s) do you use for it? |
| 11:51.30 | wols_ | luffy: why 2.4.27? |
| 11:51.36 | peej | wols_: the machine has no cd drive. |
| 11:51.49 | wols_ | peej: did I ask what drives you have? no |
| 11:52.09 | liable | peej: how do you start knoppix then? |
| 11:52.11 | tarzeau | peej: have you tried the debian installer? did it fail? |
| 11:52.14 | wols_ | luffy: xfs was fairly new back then. probably some bug? |
| 11:52.28 | peej | wols_: ok, how would you install debian onto a box with no os and no cd drive? |
| 11:52.34 | wols_ | luffy: or wait a minute, was xfs even part of the vanilla kernbel back then? |
| 11:52.36 | petykooo | xfs is not in the vanilla 2.4.x |
| 11:52.38 | liable | with floppies?? |
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| 11:52.46 | jm_ | peej: floppies, USB drive, DVD, ... |
| 11:52.52 | azeem | peej: network |
| 11:52.55 | petykooo | now, the 2.6.8 has xfs support |
| 11:52.59 | peej | the machine has no floppy drive either. all it had was pxe boot. |
| 11:53.01 | azeem | usb stick |
| 11:53.10 | Maulkin | netboot |
| 11:53.12 | azeem | peej: pxe boot is sufficient |
| 11:53.14 | blondie | or a CD drive :P |
| 11:53.18 | luffy | wols: no clue. i am new to debian |
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| 11:53.19 | peej | azeem: yup. go to the front of the class and collect your gold star |
| 11:53.28 | azeem | peej: how did you boot knoppix without a CD drive? |
| 11:53.38 | wols_ | peej: I install it on boxes which don't have a videocard either! solution: I put the hdd into anothe PC which has CD drive and videocard. then put it back into the intended server. if that doesn't work (notebook), I use either floppy ies make a usb stick which holds debian |
| 11:53.52 | azeem | peej: are you getting smartassy about this? |
| 11:53.53 | wols_ | peej: sshort answer: if knoppix can run, so can a debian installer |
| 11:54.19 | wols_ | luffy: get 2.6 kernel sources. what version of debian do you run? |
| 11:54.19 | cunzhang | hi，I have a problem with amarok in debian sid.when I quit amarok,then can't restart amarok |
| 11:54.25 | peej | azeem: I am complimenting you on your wisdom. |
| 11:54.46 | luffy | wols: actually i want to create an ethernet bridge. I am refering to http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-bridge-fw.en.html |
| 11:54.48 | wols_ | peej: lies do make baby jesus cry |
| 11:54.52 | liable | cunzhang: uh, dont quit it then, and file a bug. |
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| 11:55.03 | luffy | wols: i am using Sarge 3.1 |
| 11:55.33 | fausto | liable, ok |
| 11:55.38 | cunzhang | liable,file a bug? but i can't be sure it is a bug |
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| 11:55.42 | wols_ | luffy: get 2.6 sources. it can do that too. no 2.4 necessary. was probably written when there was 2.2 and 2.4 in debian |
| 11:55.43 | fausto | 2.6.8-686-smp installed |
| 11:55.46 | fausto | thank you.. |
| 11:55.47 | fausto | :> |
| 11:56.35 | wols_ | luffy: maybe even check if that option isn't already enabled in the debian stock kernel |
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| 11:57.04 | cunzhang | liable,amarok althought can't start,but I find two process ,amarok and amarokapp |
| 11:57.55 | wols_ | cunzhang: start amarok after boot. look at process table and note down PIDs. then stop amarok. look again at processtable and look if some PID of amarok is still there |
| 11:58.20 | wols_ | if it is: kill that amarok related PID and try restarting amarok |
| 11:58.26 | peej | running a debian installer on a machine that has no os seems a little difficult when the only option is pxe boot. I 'll check out debootstrap. |
| 11:59.00 | cunzhang | wols_,if it is,does it mean that is a bug? |
| 11:59.01 | rudy__ | exit |
| 11:59.50 | wols_ | cunzhang: yes, it definitely is a bug imho. but it helps the bughunters if you can say "process xy doesn't exit when I quit amarok" instead of "does not work". 2nd one is a lousy bugreport to be honest |
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| 12:00.20 | luffy | wols_: How do i check that |
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| 12:00.41 | Snadder | hi.. anyone good at using amixer for adjusting the volum of a soundcard? |
| 12:00.52 | cunzhang | wols_,ok ,thank you! |
| 12:01.02 | meneg | to print on hp printers on unstable now we have to run an extra server? |
| 12:01.08 | meneg | :< |
| 12:01.30 | wols_ | luffy: if you know the option name you can look into /boot/config* |
| 12:01.42 | wols_ | if you don't, I guess you need the source and run menuconfig on it to look |
| 12:01.48 | Snadder | I got this fortissimo 4 soundcard where normal alsaconf dosnt show up most interfaces. |
| 12:01.56 | Snadder | alsamixer* |
| 12:02.09 | liable | peej: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch04s06.html.en |
| 12:02.28 | cunzhang | wols_,boot in "start amarok after boot" mean boot the computer ? |
| 12:02.30 | Snadder | and envy24control only takes ICE1712 cards |
| 12:02.43 | Snadder | so I have to use poor amixer to adjust the volumes.. |
| 12:02.49 | Snadder | if none else have a better idea? |
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| 12:02.56 | cahoot | Snadder: dose amixer scontrols show more? |
| 12:03.10 | Snadder | cahoot, yes.. alot more options |
| 12:03.23 | wols_ | cunzhang: to test this all you obviously need to be able to start amarok. you just said right now after you close amarok, it won't start again |
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| 12:03.46 | Snadder | cahoot, well.. I mean.. the same thing is in that list.."amixer scontrols" and alsamixer |
| 12:04.09 | cahoot | Snadder: tried amixer sset Master 80 or such (see the man page) |
| 12:04.10 | Snadder | cahoot, but amixer scontents gives alot more |
| 12:04.48 | cunzhang | wols_,this time I know. My English is so poor,hehe |
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| 12:05.06 | Snadder | cahoot, yes.. i've tried.. with no luck: amixer cset name='Multi Track Peak' 80% gave me: amixer: Control default element write error: Operation not permitted |
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| 12:06.59 | cahoot | Snadder: it might be the alsadriver is defective - OTOH I've had some use for gamix in some circumstances - might be worth a try |
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| 12:08.34 | peej | liable: yes, but tftp boot in debian is actually very hard to set up because it has some odd quirks. The knoppix pxe install is a no-brainer, but the "debian install" knoppix creates has its own bunch of quirks. Hence the questions I asked here. It'd be pretty easy if after the lamebrained knoppix debian is installed, if a simple debootstrap incantation would get the machine into a debian state. Which is what I am looking at now, rather thant trying to fix the |
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| 12:09.44 | liable | peej: ok, how about installing knoppix, putting a debian installer kernel on it, and going from there. or debootstrap, your choice. |
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| 12:10.17 | peej | liable exactly what I'll be doing on a higher bandwidth connection later. |
| 12:10.17 | streuner_ | peej: /msg dpkg debootstrap workaround |
| 12:10.43 | streuner_ | its based on knoppix, but woody |
| 12:10.46 | Snadder | cahoot, seems like I saw lots of "sub channels" in gamix.. but there was not possible to adjust any of those. |
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| 12:11.07 | modulus | hmm, what modules must be loaded for alsa? does the cat /dev/mem > /dev/dsp still work as a check that sound is working? |
| 12:11.29 | jm_ | modul/dev/dsp is OSS device |
| 12:11.29 | wrkq | i suggest cat /usr/bin/smbd > /dev/dsp |
| 12:11.29 | streuner_ | alsaconf do that for you |
| 12:11.30 | cahoot | modulus: only if you enabled oss-emulation |
| 12:11.58 | cahoot | modulus: use aplay to access the native alsadevice |
| 12:12.39 | luffy | hey, can anybody tell me where do I get Display drivers for Intel 915G chipset |
| 12:12.48 | modulus | unfortunately this is not an option. isn't there a way to directly cat? |
| 12:13.01 | streuner_ | luffy: xorg? |
| 12:13.25 | liable | modulus: well, do you have alsa modules and snd-pcm-oss loaded? |
| 12:14.14 | Snadder | cahoot, my computer have crashed 2 times past hours.. after I did some lspci.. after loading the driver... or running alsaconf or trying to start envy24control. |
| 12:14.27 | streuner_ | luffy: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 12:14.27 | petykooo | can anybody tell me how can i set RT priority on a process? |
| 12:14.27 | kimo | guys, the difference between soft/hard links, is that softlinks can link across .... ?? (I can't remember) |
| 12:14.36 | modulus | well, without sound i'm having a bit of a problem telling you. ok, simplified use case: i'm blind, synthesizers are not working. i've done apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils -qq but do not know if succeeded, then done alsaconf, then tried to fuck around with alsamixer, with unknown results. testing sound is only way forward here, and i don't have any sound samples. |
| 12:14.38 | bbrazil | kimo: filesystems |
| 12:14.39 | jm_ | petykooo: man nice renice |
| 12:14.40 | petykooo | diffesern partitions |
| 12:14.41 | cahoot | Snadder: if this isn't a permissionsissue I'd guess the driver isn't fully funtional - search on alsa.user mailing list |
| 12:14.50 | bbrazil | kimo: and there's a bit more to it than that |
| 12:14.52 | petykooo | i read nice manpages |
| 12:14.55 | kimo | bbrazil: or partitions ? |
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| 12:15.11 | petykooo | diffesern = different... |
| 12:15.19 | wrkq | kimo, symlink point to filename |
| 12:15.23 | nuky | do you know where i can find the .deb installation of the bash_completion? i can only see the rpm on the site and i tried to do it manually but i am getting and error that i don't understand.. |
| 12:15.27 | wrkq | kimo, hardlink to inode |
| 12:15.45 | bbrazil | kimo: no, filesystems. it's possible to hardlink across partitions if you cheat (raid0 etc.) |
| 12:15.54 | Snadder | cahoot, can it be permission issues when i'm doing it as root? |
| 12:15.54 | liable | nuky: .deb of what? |
| 12:15.58 | kimo | wrkq: so practically, what's the difference |
| 12:15.59 | luffy | streuner: it says=> ii libc6 2.3.6-3 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 12:16.03 | kimo | bbrazil: ok thnx |
| 12:16.08 | cahoot | Snadder: hardly |
| 12:16.16 | streuner_ | !info libc6 sid |
| 12:16.21 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6-4 (sid), Packaged size: 4971 kB, Installed size: 16808 kB |
| 12:16.52 | kimo | I just learnt I can cat file > /dev/tcp/IP/port :) :) This ROX :) |
| 12:16.57 | wrkq | kimo, the symlink points to other file. for example /tmp/examp points to /tmp/file od /usr/bin/exec |
| 12:17.06 | streuner_ | luffy: so you have xorg installed? look if xorg supports the chipset, otherwise you have to go to intel website and search there for an driver |
| 12:17.22 | nuky | the extra bash_completion features program, found at: http://www.caliban.org/bash/#completion_download deb is not listed there but in the installation readme, it says to use that instead of the manual if you are using a debian based system (i'm using kubunut) |
| 12:17.32 | kimo | wrkq: in other words, why cant everything be symlink ? |
| 12:17.40 | wrkq | kimo, the hardlink IS the file. /tmp/examp is the file identical as /tmp/file, an if you change one you change other in the same time. |
| 12:17.41 | peej | streuner_: hey, thanks for the pointer. Knoppix is amazing of course. Just not the right tool for running a solid personal or server system imho. which is why I am so keen on fleeing it. |
| 12:17.43 | luffy | streuner:ohh...ok. i will do that... |
| 12:17.53 | streuner_ | luffy: run VESA in the meantime |
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| 12:18.21 | wrkq | kimo, if you delete the file symink points to, the symlink is empty. if you delete file hardlink is pointing to, |
| 12:18.22 | stew | nuky: ask #kubuntu then |
| 12:18.37 | wrkq | kimo, the contents are still available in hardlink |
| 12:18.38 | kimo | wrkq: ok .. I understand really how it works |
| 12:18.46 | luffy | streuner_:can u please tell me what is VESA? |
| 12:18.46 | kimo | wrkq: thanks though |
| 12:19.00 | nuky | stew: thanks, sorry.. |
| 12:19.01 | streuner_ | !vesa |
| 12:19.01 | kimo | luffy: SVGA driver |
| 12:19.01 | dpkg | VESA, arguable at least, stands for "video electronics standards association" and is a mode that can be used on vid cards for the framebuffer xserver and other neat stuff. |
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| 12:19.15 | kimo | !xorg |
| 12:19.15 | dpkg | somebody said xorg was X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.0. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg |
| 12:19.27 | kimo | !firefox |
| 12:19.27 | dpkg | [firefox] the successor to Mozilla Navigator, or the best web browser EVER! apt-get install mozilla-firefox (just "firefox" for 1.5), or stew> greycat: echo "gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs"" >> ~/.gtkrc-2.0 ; fixes the keybindings. see also <firefox support> |
| 12:19.41 | petykooo | jm_: thnx, but the renice command changes only the nice value |
| 12:19.51 | petykooo | top says |
| 12:19.56 | petykooo | NI -20 |
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| 12:20.02 | petykooo | i need: PR RT |
| 12:20.15 | kimo | one more thing.. we always say, everything is a file (except sockets). Now that you can 'cat file > /dev/tcp/IP/port', can I stop saying this :) |
| 12:20.39 | modulus | it's a major loss in functionality imo that the alsa doesn't come by default. sound used to work by default before. |
| 12:20.47 | modulus | but nm |
| 12:20.48 | streuner_ | luffy: it supports almost all vidocards not matter if there is a driver or not, but its limited... |
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| 12:20.57 | jm_ | petykooo: in C or what? |
| 12:21.13 | liable | heh, says Administrator.. |
| 12:21.40 | petykooo | from |
| 12:21.41 | petykooo | shell |
| 12:21.42 | wols_ | kimo: strc+c not working? if not: go into another virtual console (alt+f2) and kill the "cat" process |
| 12:21.45 | Snadder | cahoot, amixer cset name='Multi Track Internal Clock <-- gives me a list of possible clockspeeds.. but when I try: amixer cset name='Multi Track Peak' it fails with: amixer: Control default element write error: Operation not permitted |
| 12:21.46 | luffy | streuner_: how do i run it? i mean, is it a command or utility that i need to install? |
| 12:21.50 | petykooo | growisofs runs at normal priority |
| 12:22.00 | petykooo | i want RT, as other distributions |
| 12:22.02 | wols_ | !tell luffy about drxx |
| 12:22.02 | petykooo | +in |
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| 12:22.11 | streuner_ | luffy: its in xorg or xfree86 |
| 12:22.21 | streuner_ | !drxx luffy |
| 12:22.21 | dpkg | luffy: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 12:22.26 | kimo | wols_: thnx .. I am not facing any problem though |
| 12:22.30 | luffy | streuner_: ok |
| 12:22.32 | streuner_ | luffy: and just choose 'VESA' |
| 12:22.33 | jm_ | not sure if there are any tools to do that |
| 12:22.39 | kimo | one more thing.. we always say, everything is a file (except sockets). Now that you can 'cat file>/dev/tcp/IP/port', can I stop saying this :) |
| 12:22.50 | wols_ | kimo: strc+c not working? if not: go into another virtual console (alt+f2) and kill the "cat" process |
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| 12:26.09 | cahoot | Snadder: what alsa driver? |
| 12:26.37 | Snadder | cahoot, how do I display the driver version again? |
| 12:26.44 | cahoot | Snadder: what alsa driver? |
| 12:26.56 | cahoot | Snadder: er what module |
| 12:26.56 | wrkq | somewhere in /proc |
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| 12:27.11 | Snadder | oh.. the driver is snd_ice1724 |
| 12:27.14 | luffy | !drxx |
| 12:27.14 | dpkg | i heard drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 12:27.24 | plans | A |
| 12:27.24 | plans | [A |
| 12:27.24 | plans | [A[A |
| 12:27.32 | jm_ | /proc/asound/version of course |
| 12:27.38 | liable | plans: english |
| 12:27.42 | luffy | dpkg: ok |
| 12:27.42 | dpkg | hmm... ok is not ok |
| 12:27.50 | Snadder | cahoot, 0000:02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01) |
| 12:28.10 | plans | liable: it was my keyboard speaking. |
| 12:28.10 | Snadder | lspci vendor id: 0000:02:01.0 0401: 1412:1724 (rev 01) |
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| 12:28.22 | plans | it's happy to see you |
| 12:28.30 | cahoot | Snadder: ok and /proc/asound/version? |
| 12:28.34 | Greek-B0y | where is MySQL incdir on a debian installation? |
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| 12:28.50 | liable | plans: oh good. lick it for me then. |
| 12:29.09 | Snadder | cahoot, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc3. Compiled on Apr 3 2006 for kernel 2.6.15-1-686. |
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| 12:29.39 | Snadder | cahoot, I compiled it myself for the etch kernel. |
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| 12:30.12 | Snadder | cahoot, using the etch kernel source.. without compiling my own kernel. |
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| 12:32.22 | Snadder | got linux-source-2.6.15 from apt-get.. just for compiling the alsa driver source.. but running the precompiled 2.6.15 kernel |
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| 12:34.11 | ma3x | what's the difference if I encode both audio video to .avi and/or separate audio and video and then put them both into .mp4 container? |
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| 12:34.35 | cahoot | Snadder: try here: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=ice1724 |
| 12:35.08 | wols_ | the difference is a different multimedia container |
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| 12:40.49 | Snadder | cahoot, nice.. but what is spdif really.. do I need that to get it working? |
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| 12:41.19 | plans | subshop.nu/~satan/X.log - what should I read and know to fix the errors described in log? |
| 12:41.47 | plans | http://subshop.nu/~satan/X.log |
| 12:42.05 | jm_ | satan? I fear going there |
| 12:42.58 | plans | of course |
| 12:43.02 | mypapit | haha |
| 12:43.02 | mypapit | wtf |
| 12:43.08 | valdyn | !drxx plans |
| 12:43.08 | dpkg | plans: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 12:43.24 | valdyn | plans: ^^and say no to the Framebuffer question |
| 12:43.33 | slept | I'm trying to use sshfs with fuse , to make use of this (as user) it looks tome like the group of fusermount should be fuse and not root . But since it got install with group root, there might be a reason not to change it. Is there an other way to solve the problem ? |
| 12:44.45 | jm_ | sounds like the issue with X was the one that annoyed bob2 ;) |
| 12:44.55 | valdyn | slept: you use sshfs to mount the share, the relevant permissions are whatever they are on /dev/fuse |
| 12:45.09 | liable | !annoy bob2 |
| 12:45.10 | dpkg | Why do i get "NO SCREENS FOUND"?!?! HELP ME FUX0RS!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:45.15 | jm_ | :))) |
| 12:45.16 | liable | :) |
| 12:45.27 | mypapit | !annoy bob2 |
| 12:45.28 | dpkg | Why do i get "NO SCREENS FOUND"?!?! HELP ME FUX0RS!!!!!!!!! |
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| 12:47.17 | slept | valdyn: thanks, I'll have a look at that |
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| 12:47.52 | heny | hi, i wanna use debian as an gameserver OS, would it be the best to use the network-installation? because i think i do not need all packages, right? |
| 12:48.11 | jm_ | henk: yes |
| 12:48.14 | sep | heny, i like the 110 MB netinstall image |
| 12:48.20 | jmps_me | i'm not sure of what to do in the `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86`.. how can I know? |
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| 12:48.54 | valdyn | jmps_me: you could ask a question on what you dont understand |
| 12:48.58 | heny | ok, but how do i then connect to the internet? do i have to enter my provider-data? |
| 12:49.03 | heny | while the installation? |
| 12:49.24 | jmps_me | YEE |
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| 12:49.41 | flosch | hi |
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| 12:50.21 | valdyn | heny: maybe getting just the first cdrom is better for you |
| 12:51.09 | heny | valdyn: i'm gonna try, i know my data for provider and ethernet |
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| 12:51.17 | heny | think that should work if i read the installation manual |
| 12:51.39 | heny | the netinst image is btw ~180 mb big, not 110? oO |
| 12:51.49 | petykooo | 110 Mb |
| 12:51.58 | petykooo | it fits on a 128 Mb pendrive |
| 12:52.01 | heny | http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable |
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| 12:52.23 | petykooo | +well |
| 12:52.31 | petykooo | poor english sorry |
| 12:52.50 | heny | so, shall i download the 180-one now? |
| 12:53.06 | heny | lol! |
| 12:53.09 | heny | it's 108 mb big |
| 12:53.10 | heny | strange |
| 12:53.15 | heny | the text says something differen |
| 12:53.17 | heny | xD |
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| 12:53.46 | jm_ | that's for non-i386 images |
| 12:53.53 | heny | i guess i need i386 right? |
| 12:53.58 | heny | got pentium 3, intel |
| 12:54.01 | jm_ | yes |
| 12:54.07 | petykooo | if you have a pc with intel or amd proc. |
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| 12:54.37 | valdyn | heny: the text sais 'up to 180MB', which means 180 or less |
| 12:54.47 | heny | ok |
| 12:54.54 | heny | then the german translation sucks ;) |
| 12:55.04 | heny | is this the newest manual? |
| 12:55.05 | heny | http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ |
| 12:55.38 | petykooo | maybe |
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| 12:55.58 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 12:55.58 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 12:56.59 | heny | petykooo, maybe or it is? ^^ |
| 12:57.18 | ma3x | what's the difference if I encode both audio video to .avi and/or separate audio and video and then put them both into .mp4 container? |
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| 12:58.37 | heny | which manual should i use so? |
| 12:58.38 | heny | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ |
| 12:58.40 | heny | http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ |
| 12:58.51 | valdyn | heny: those 2 are identical |
| 12:58.54 | heny | ok |
| 12:58.59 | heny | and the newest one too? |
| 12:59.09 | valdyn | heny: yes |
| 12:59.24 | heny | k thx |
| 12:59.37 | heny | it's nice that people here are friendly and don't shout/flame at noobs :) |
| 13:01.00 | insidius | Dont bite the noob that feeds you! |
| 13:01.10 | BartVB | anyone here using apt-proxy on sarge? I'm getting a nasty error message when I try to start it :\ |
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| 13:02.37 | sep | BartVB, if you now think everyone that uses it willshout "i do!", then your sadly fucking mistaken. Try asking a real question. include the exact error message you get |
| 13:02.58 | BartVB | good point :) |
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| 13:04.51 | BartVB | This nicely describes what happens: http://www.debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=280500#280500 |
| 13:05.11 | BartVB | bottomline: when I start apt-proxy I get: "AttributeError: Componentized instance has no attribute 'run'" |
| 13:05.19 | BartVB | which isn't very useful (to me :D) |
| 13:05.40 | BartVB | tried apt-get remove --purge apt-cache python-twisted and reinstalling but to no avail |
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| 13:06.16 | VolVE | hey all, so my server is spewing XFS unreadable errors on dm-3 when I try to boot... anyone got any tips for where to start? :( |
| 13:06.49 | petykooo | dm-3? |
| 13:06.55 | petykooo | not md3? |
| 13:07.03 | jm_ | VolVE: well I would start by preparing backups for restoration |
| 13:07.03 | VolVE | nope, dm-3... *shrug* |
| 13:07.13 | sep | !win jm_ |
| 13:07.13 | dpkg | Congratulations, jm_! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 13:07.28 | petykooo | dm-3 is what type of device? |
| 13:07.37 | valdyn | BartVB: i think apt-proxy is not even in sarge |
| 13:07.46 | jm_ | valdyn: it is |
| 13:07.49 | VolVE | petykooo, using ide disks in an LVM |
| 13:07.51 | valdyn | !info apt-proxy sarge |
| 13:07.55 | dpkg | apt-proxy: (Debian archive proxy and partial mirror builder development), section admin, is extra. Version: 1.9.29 (sarge), Packaged size: 59 kB, Installed size: 232 kB |
| 13:07.55 | VolVE | not sure what dm-3 means though... hmmm |
| 13:07.59 | valdyn | !info apt-proxy sid |
| 13:08.00 | petykooo | peti@petykooo:~$ apt-proxy |
| 13:08.01 | petykooo | bash: apt-proxy: command not found |
| 13:08.01 | dpkg | apt-proxy: (Debian archive proxy and partial mirror builder development), section admin, is extra. Version: 1.9.33-0.1 (sid), Packaged size: 71 kB, Installed size: 388 kB |
| 13:08.02 | valdyn | oh wow |
| 13:08.09 | VolVE | jm_: well I want to get into the system and check damage before I restore anything |
| 13:08.24 | petykooo | :)) |
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| 13:08.33 | jm_ | VolVE: use some rescue medium, say grml or Knoppix |
| 13:08.43 | petykooo | this week i need to set up an LVM on an MD |
| 13:08.55 | yulon | which is the right driver for usb mouse? |
| 13:09.14 | jm_ | yulon: depends on kernel version |
| 13:09.22 | GoAuLd | arent usb mouses worse than ps2? |
| 13:09.23 | yulon | 2.6.15 |
| 13:09.45 | yulon | jm_: ? |
| 13:09.59 | jm_ | well use full USB hid support, so usbhid |
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| 13:10.06 | jm_ | yulon: ^^^^^ |
| 13:10.06 | GoAuLd | so usb devices eat a fixed amount of bandwidth is this correct? |
| 13:10.07 | yulon | GoAuLd: define worse. |
| 13:10.07 | jmps_me | I did rm -fr /* yesterday and erased some important files. how can i rescue that? can i mount that filesystem and put files?.. important files. How do i know what to mount, the hdd is connected, but i can't find it in /etc/fstab |
| 13:10.29 | yulon | jm_: what to use in xorg.conf? |
| 13:10.37 | petykooo | rm -rf /* ???????? |
| 13:10.45 | jm_ | yulon: for what? |
| 13:10.46 | petykooo | lol |
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| 13:10.58 | yulon | jm_: usb mouse |
| 13:11.13 | yulon | the driver for usb mouse in xorg.conf |
| 13:11.17 | jm_ | yulon: did you read 2.6 input FAQ? use /dev/input/mice and ExplorerPS/2 |
| 13:11.39 | jmps_me | i stopped it in time, but /etc/passwd etc is gone. |
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| 13:11.50 | yulon | jm_ that's the device and the protocol. what about the driver? |
| 13:12.03 | jm_ | yulon: what driver? |
| 13:12.21 | yulon | jm_: device driver. |
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| 13:13.10 | valdyn | BartVB: have you purge apt-proxy too ? |
| 13:13.26 | jm_ | yulon: what are the options? |
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| 13:14.31 | yulon | driver is one of the option for the 'input section' in xorg.conf. so what to specify for the driver for usb mouse??? |
| 13:14.31 | Maulkin | jmps_me: Erm, basically, you'll need to start again with a fresh install |
| 13:14.49 | jm_ | yulon: don't do it by hand, use dpkg-reconfigure |
| 13:14.55 | cire | Do I need to have direct rendering enabled to be able to watch divx-movies? In Kaffeine, they don't run fluently... I have a centrino 1,85 GHz which should be enough... |
| 13:15.49 | jmps_me | Maulkin: okay, how can that be specified? in the dialogs of the installation-cd? |
| 13:16.11 | yulon | jm_: I did. i have this strange problem that mouse does not work fr boot. but if i switch to text mode and then back to grahics mode, it works. |
| 13:16.16 | cahoot | yulon: 'mouse' works here |
| 13:16.23 | jm_ | yulon: then use mouse driver |
| 13:16.25 | Maulkin | jmps_me: backup the important data and treat it as a new installation |
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| 13:16.47 | valdyn | cire: no, not really, XV is what is best for video playback. If you use the vesa driver you're not going to get nice video playback |
| 13:16.48 | yulon | cahoot: jm_: that is what i am using right now. |
| 13:16.50 | jm_ | yulon: I don't quite see how this affects the fatc that you should do it via debconf interface |
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| 13:17.26 | jmps_me | Maulkin: that was my plan. the hdd needs to be mounted somehow. it's connected now, but not shown in /etc/fstab. where should i look for info to mount it? |
| 13:17.30 | cire | valdyn: I am using the vesa driver... |
| 13:17.32 | yulon | jm_: no it doesn't. when the device doesn't work, i first suspect the driver. |
| 13:17.53 | Maulkin | jmps_me: /dev/hda probably |
| 13:17.58 | jmps_me | jiii |
| 13:18.05 | petykooo | alapzaj: kolega... |
| 13:18.18 | yulon | jm_: i won't say it is not working. it has to switch between text and graphics mode before it works. |
| 13:18.22 | alapzaj | hy |
| 13:18.31 | alapzaj | petykoo: hmm??? |
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| 13:18.45 | heny | where can you download the manual for i386 debian= |
| 13:18.48 | heny | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ |
| 13:18.50 | heny | this one |
| 13:18.52 | BartVB | valdyn: yup, I did. I fixed it now :) Seems like you just shouldn't run apt-proxy from the commandline :) This was very helpful: http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/AptProxy |
| 13:18.57 | petykooo | csak mondom sikoltok |
| 13:18.58 | fluxdude | trying to set up syslog-ng, can anybody tell me why the following line wouldn't work?: |
| 13:19.03 | fluxdude | source s_kern { file("/proc/kmsg" flags(kernel); log_prefix("kernel: "); ); }; |
| 13:19.10 | petykooo | de mar mennem is kell |
| 13:19.19 | Maulkin | !hu |
| 13:19.19 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t. |
| 13:19.27 | petykooo | :))))))) |
| 13:19.32 | petykooo | lo |
| 13:19.33 | petykooo | l |
| 13:19.35 | petykooo | ;) |
| 13:19.37 | petykooo | roger |
| 13:20.07 | heny | where can you download the manual for i386 debian= |
| 13:20.09 | heny | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ |
| 13:20.25 | Maulkin | Which manual? |
| 13:20.34 | heny | that one |
| 13:20.36 | heny | i linked |
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| 13:20.39 | Eclipser | cahoot, it appears that setting index for each card didn't help :p |
| 13:20.46 | Bay | Does anyone know the preseed option for the second Language option, "d-i languagechooser/language-name select English" doesn't do it :D |
| 13:20.59 | Eclipser | after several days the soundcards switched alsa device names again |
| 13:21.09 | valdyn | heny: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
| 13:21.24 | Maulkin | heny: http://www.debian.org/doc/ |
| 13:21.32 | jm_ | yulon: I am not challening that part, just the part where you seem to be writing config file by hand |
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| 13:21.37 | jm_ | challenging* |
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| 13:22.09 | heny | valdyn: but that doesn't seem to be the newest version |
| 13:22.14 | heny | it doesn't include HURD e.g. |
| 13:22.29 | valdyn | heny: there's no debian release for HURD |
| 13:22.33 | heny | i mean the manual |
| 13:22.35 | heny | :/ |
| 13:22.48 | yulon | jm_: i am not. since the generated value doesn't work, i am doubting it. |
| 13:22.52 | heny | compare these: |
| 13:22.53 | heny | http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/index.html |
| 13:22.59 | power1 | Hi, I am having a huge problem at a clients site , im getting this in the mail.log when trying to send an email "postfix/qmgr[2001]: 51176E7990: to=<mark@aural.co.za>, relay=none, delay=0, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=smtp.saix.net type=MX: Host not found, try again) |
| 13:23.00 | power1 | " If I ping the hostname it resolves and ping no problem.....any ideas? |
| 13:23.02 | tarzeau | there's also no release for Debian GNU/kFreeBSD |
| 13:23.36 | pm_ | how is this in numbers: -rwxrwx--- ? |
| 13:23.41 | valdyn | heny: compare with what? |
| 13:23.46 | Maulkin | pm_: 770 |
| 13:23.50 | heny | so which one should i use? |
| 13:23.50 | heny | http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/index.html.de |
| 13:23.51 | jm_ | yulon: you must be pretty special :) |
| 13:23.55 | heny | http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/de.i386/index.html |
| 13:23.57 | heny | or this? |
| 13:24.18 | valdyn | heny: the first one, alioth is from and for developers |
| 13:24.22 | Xteven | hmm, which scripts get called when a package is reconfigured with dpkg-reconfigure ? |
| 13:24.33 | heny | ok valdyn |
| 13:25.04 | jm_ | pm_: info coreutils -> chmod |
| 13:25.06 | Maulkin | power1: it looks liek postfix is lokign for a mx record for smtp.saix.net |
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| 13:25.55 | power1 | Maulkin, yeah...but if i ping smtp.saix.net from the console on the server it resolves and pings immediately. |
| 13:26.16 | valdyn | heny: in case you didnt notice, the alioth guide is talking about Debian 3.1+δ, not sarge, and not debian 3.1 |
| 13:26.18 | fireba11_2 | power1: ping doesn't use MX entry |
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| 13:26.42 | Maulkin | power1: Yup, taht's baecause that's looking for an A record, which exists |
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| 13:26.51 | pm_ | Maulkin 0770 gives me -rwxrwxr-- and not -rwxrwx--- |
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| 13:27.09 | power1 | fireba11_2, Maulkin hmmm, ok i am stumped ..what do i do? |
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| 13:28.03 | Maulkin | power1: Well, I'd advise installing exim, as I really don't know how to drive postfix :) |
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| 13:28.38 | ooo^^ | hey i have a new clean partition and df -h shows 30 MB are in used, how come? |
| 13:28.53 | bbrazil | ooo^^: reserved space |
| 13:29.04 | jm_ | PowerPC: try looking it up by hand |
| 13:29.05 | Maulkin | power1: Doen't for me... |
| 13:29.10 | Maulkin | sorry. |
| 13:29.10 | jm_ | power1 ^^^^^ |
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| 13:29.28 | Maulkin | pm_: doesn't for me. Make sure you didn't typo the final 0 |
| 13:29.48 | power1 | Maulkin, im sticking with postfix.. |
| 13:29.55 | power1 | jm_, ??? |
| 13:29.59 | jm_ | power1: !!! |
| 13:30.48 | dbron | Hi all, anyone using Debian/NetBSD? I would like to install from CD, but I see only floppy install images. Is there an iso available? |
| 13:31.27 | abrotman | dbron: ask tarzeau |
| 13:31.41 | dbron | abrotman: k, will do |
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| 13:31.44 | tarzeau | dbron: you want #gnu-kbsd which is debian gnu/kfreebsd |
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| 13:32.04 | dbron | tarzeau: ty |
| 13:32.36 | VolVE | jm_: ok, I'm downloading grml v0.6 and knoppix v4.0.2 now - I could have sworn Debian's install CD had a rescue mode so I was just booting with that but apparently it doesn't... hmm :-/ |
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| 13:32.58 | jm_ | VolVE: it does, alt-f2 for console, Etch has a special mode for it |
| 13:33.03 | VolVE | hmm |
| 13:33.13 | jm_ | but other ones have way more tools available |
| 13:33.15 | VolVE | it wasn't on any of the info screens... |
| 13:33.19 | Maulkin | VolVE: tried typing 'rescue' at the boot prompt? |
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| 13:33.33 | VolVE | yes Maulkin, no image found :-/ |
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| 13:34.29 | VolVE | jm_: pressing alt-f2 from the CD boot menu doesn't seem to do anything... |
| 13:34.38 | jm_ | VolVE: no, once it's booted ;) |
| 13:34.59 | VolVE | so just boot the install CD normally and /then/ at the first menu do it? |
| 13:35.15 | jm_ | yes, but I am telling you now that you'll wait for other CD-s to download |
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| 13:35.45 | VolVE | okok, getting impatient |
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| 13:35.59 | VolVE | having a drive spew errors and refuse to even boot is rather upsetting :( |
| 13:36.18 | VolVE | ~13min left on the 2 CDs |
| 13:36.23 | AMC | is an installed knoppix equal of debian? |
| 13:36.24 | jm_ | error= and seek= codes will hint at what the issue is |
| 13:36.26 | insidius | We have all been there volve :-) |
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| 13:36.49 | VolVE | insidius: <sigh> yeah, last time it happend to me, at least the system would boot so I could poke around :-/ |
| 13:37.11 | Maulkin | Dead drives != pretty |
| 13:37.17 | Scorpion | I accidentally.. hit enter when the debian installation was asking for packages to install.. I'm not installing the x-window-system and gnome using apt-get, would it be faster to start again? |
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| 13:37.30 | Scorpion | *not == now* |
| 13:37.45 | resiak | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.56 | jm_ | tried interrupting it? |
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| 13:38.10 | insidius | Night all, hope that you get it sorted volve |
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| 13:38.13 | Scorpion | jm_, no I didn't.. it's finished now |
| 13:38.29 | VolVE | thanks insidius, night |
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| 13:39.03 | resiak | You can just install them with `apt-get install x-window-system gnome` |
| 13:39.17 | resiak | indeed, this way is faster since you won't have automagically installed KDE as well. |
| 13:40.03 | Scorpion | if I installed x-windows through the installation wizard, would I have still had to configure x windows? |
| 13:40.13 | jm_ | yes |
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| 13:40.35 | matteo | hi all |
| 13:40.43 | matteo | i have debian-amd64 and also an i386 chroot, which stopped working today |
| 13:40.51 | matteo | all chroots fails with ENOPERM |
| 13:41.09 | matteo | http://pastebin.com/637538 |
| 13:41.17 | matteo | here there is a dchroot strace |
| 13:41.26 | matteo | dchroot is set uid root |
| 13:41.46 | matteo | running `dchroot true` as root will fails too |
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| 13:44.33 | fontp | why does ldconfig complain about something not being a symbolic link? |
| 13:44.57 | matteo | http://pastebin.com/637701 |
| 13:45.03 | matteo | here there is a strace |
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| 13:46.11 | Maulkin | matteo: Have you checked your permissions on /var/chroot/sid-ia32 ? |
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| 13:46.29 | matteo | drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 480 2006-01-23 11:24 /var/chroot/sid-ia32 |
| 13:47.54 | matteo | [pid 2126] execve("/bin/bash", [umovestr: Input/output error |
| 13:47.59 | matteo | what is this? |
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| 13:56.06 | Maulkin | hmm... |
| 13:56.12 | Maulkin | That really doesn't look healthy |
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| 13:57.26 | matteo | i'm getting crazy enough |
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| 13:58.40 | valdyn | matteo: try reading off that disk/partition with dd |
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| 13:59.24 | matteo | i don't see SCSI errors in the syslog |
| 13:59.34 | matteo | and /bin/bash is readable |
| 13:59.38 | matteo | i can read it |
| 13:59.56 | matteo | also i doubt that a new HITACHI Sata2 drive is already fucked up |
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| 14:00.12 | twosouls82 | hi all |
| 14:00.28 | matteo | btw: dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/null bs=1M |
| 14:00.31 | matteo | i'll do this? |
| 14:00.31 | twosouls82 | does anyone know how to install openoffice on a amd64? |
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| 14:00.39 | valdyn | matteo: yea |
| 14:00.43 | matteo | twosouls82: chroot it |
| 14:01.01 | twosouls82 | matteo: what? |
| 14:01.15 | matteo | twosouls82:http://tinyurl.com/ron3n |
| 14:01.44 | twosouls82 | matteo: thanks |
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| 14:02.22 | abrotman | twosouls82: which OO? |
| 14:02.34 | twosouls82 | 2.x |
| 14:03.12 | matteo | twosouls82: you could also install the native amd64 version |
| 14:03.32 | twosouls82 | matteo: does it exist? |
| 14:03.47 | matteo | it is beta, but works for me |
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| 14:04.05 | matteo | twosouls82: http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m162/Build-1/OOo_SRC680_m162_LinuxAMD_install_en-US_rpm.tar.gz |
| 14:04.36 | superlinux | matteo hello! do u have any experiance in freeradius |
| 14:04.39 | superlinux | ? |
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| 14:04.57 | twosouls82 | downloading* |
| 14:05.03 | matteo | superlinux: why do you ask me? no btw |
| 14:05.07 | abrotman | twosouls82: ask #debian-amd64 ? |
| 14:05.16 | superlinux | just asking |
| 14:05.23 | matteo | twosouls82: use the install script to install it locally |
| 14:05.26 | superlinux | cos i need help in that |
| 14:05.29 | matteo | you also need rpm |
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| 14:05.41 | twosouls82 | matteo: already have rpm |
| 14:05.43 | matteo | superlinux: i don't know nothing about radius, i use WEP |
| 14:05.57 | superlinux | ok |
| 14:06.21 | superlinux | who knows here? |
| 14:08.13 | superlinux | my question is : in the /etc/freeradius/clients.conf whose IP/mask should I put in the [ client IP/mask {} ] section? |
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| 14:09.08 | matthew | i'm having trouble getting sound to work in debian on a dell optiplex gx520 with an intel ac97 on-board chip. does anyone have advice? |
| 14:09.40 | superlinux | matthew all u can do is install ALSA pkgs |
| 14:09.41 | abrotman | are you using alsa or OSS ? |
| 14:09.55 | abrotman | !tell superlinux about u |
| 14:09.58 | superlinux | and issue "alsaconf" |
| 14:10.10 | matthew | tried running installing alsa and running alsaconf but it doesn't detect my sound device |
| 14:10.11 | superlinux | i am on both |
| 14:10.21 | abrotman | matthew: what CPU do you have? |
| 14:10.56 | superlinux | abrotman pardon for that you |
| 14:11.25 | superlinux | this is cos my only second language is English |
| 14:12.04 | cire | If I want to use my i915 graphics card in X, with direct rendering, do I need to set i810fb module enabled? |
| 14:12.14 | matthew | i have a pentium 4 |
| 14:12.17 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 14:12.18 | dpkg | it has been said that alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 14:12.21 | abrotman | !alsa-checklist |
| 14:12.22 | dpkg | [alsa-checklist] 1) run alsaconf 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
| 14:12.36 | cire | or, in other words, does a change in fb options affect my X-behaviour? |
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| 14:14.05 | matthew | dpkg-- alsaconf doesn't detect my sound device, and when i run alsamixer i get the error: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" |
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| 14:14.48 | abrotman | matthew: are the OSS modules loaded ? |
| 14:15.03 | abrotman | matthew: also .. lspci | grep -i audio |
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| 14:16.09 | gewixmassiv | bonjour à tous |
| 14:16.17 | matthew | abrotman: how do i know if the oss modules are loaded? |
| 14:16.29 | abrotman | matthew: lsmod .. see any snd modules? |
| 14:16.31 | abrotman | !fr |
| 14:16.31 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 14:16.31 | matthew | abrotman: lspci gives me "0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 27de (rev 01)" |
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| 14:16.40 | abrotman | matthew: run `update-pciids` |
| 14:17.06 | gewixmassiv | quelqu'un sait il comment évaluer un probleme de DNS sous debian? j'ai un nom de domaine qui fonctionnait bien mais maintenant ce nom de domaine ne répond plu |
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| 14:17.35 | tarzeau | what are the advantages of using a version managemnet system? |
| 14:17.54 | abrotman | for what? |
| 14:17.56 | matthew | abrotman: ok, now i've got "0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)" |
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| 14:18.12 | abrotman | matthew: lsmod .. see any snd modules ? |
| 14:18.25 | Shad0wcat | !tell tarzeau about iyhtays |
| 14:18.29 | Shad0wcat | :P |
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| 14:18.59 | Devasssss | i compiled kernel 2.6.16.1 but it says: Ok, booting the kernel and stops there.. what is the problem? |
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| 14:19.02 | yoo | Hi ! |
| 14:19.15 | matthew | abrotman: hmm, not unless "pcspkr" is considered a sound module :) |
| 14:19.18 | yoo | i have an error when i compile shfs-sources |
| 14:19.26 | yoo | In function 'shfs_invalidate_dircache_entries' error |
| 14:19.27 | abrotman | matthew: no .. not really :) |
| 14:19.33 | abrotman | matthew: uname -a |
| 14:19.47 | josuoa | speaker is ok but mic is dead. how to turn on mic? alsamixer shows nothing for mic. |
| 14:19.49 | Shad0wcat | yoo: so either start editing the source |
| 14:19.55 | yoo | it's ok on my sarge but the compilation failed on my unstable server shfs |
| 14:19.57 | Shad0wcat | or figure out what compiler you should be using |
| 14:20.00 | matthew | abrotman: "Linux matthew 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux" |
| 14:20.09 | Shad0wcat | yoo: so don't use gcc 4 then |
| 14:20.19 | yoo | shfs need a special option in the kernel ? |
| 14:20.35 | Shad0wcat | yoo: shouldn't YOU know that? |
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| 14:20.44 | abrotman | matthew: you may need a newer kernel .. i guess you're not running sata huh ? |
| 14:20.48 | Scorpion | anyone know the command for re-configuring xwindows? |
| 14:20.59 | yoo | Shad0wcat, no i don't know |
| 14:21.04 | Shad0wcat | yoo: there's usually a readme that comes with the source tarball |
| 14:21.08 | Shad0wcat | you're supposed to read it |
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| 14:21.08 | yoo | in my /usr/bin/ |
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| 14:21.19 | yoo | gcc->gcc-4.0 |
| 14:21.28 | yoo | so i remake the link ? |
| 14:21.31 | Mortis_kruuul | Hi! http://www.muzyka.oz.pl :) |
| 14:21.35 | yoo | or i can use a make option ? |
| 14:21.39 | yoo | i never compile |
| 14:21.51 | josuoa | speaker is ok but mic is dead. how to turn on mic? alsamixer shows nothing for mic. |
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| 14:22.09 | Shad0wcat | yoo: then GO READ IT |
| 14:22.10 | tarzeau | Shad0wcat: HUH? that's not the answer i wanted |
| 14:22.19 | Shad0wcat | tarzeau :P |
| 14:22.26 | tarzeau | does cvs/svn have any advantages that i absolutely need? |
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| 14:22.36 | jsmidt | When you download source from debian where is it stored? Which directory? |
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| 14:22.39 | tarzeau | someone is trying to tell me i absolutely need it... |
| 14:22.40 | Shad0wcat | yoo: every source tarball comes with a readme file that tells you what it needs to compile successfully |
| 14:22.41 | Shad0wcat | go read it |
| 14:22.44 | wols_ | yoo: install gcc-3.3 and compile with that then |
| 14:22.45 | matthew | abrotman: do you mean a sata hard disk? i'm not using one |
| 14:22.48 | valdyn | jsmidt: what source? |
| 14:22.49 | tarzeau | does cvs/svn cause heavenly orgasms? |
| 14:22.51 | yoo | Shad0wcat, no readme in /usr/Src/modules/shfs |
| 14:22.57 | jsmidt | for a debian package |
| 14:23.00 | yoo | wols_, i have gcc-3.3 |
| 14:23.03 | jsmidt | in unstable |
| 14:23.07 | Shad0wcat | wols_: the thing is he hasn't read the install/readme file |
| 14:23.12 | yoo | but gcc point to gcc-4.0 |
| 14:23.12 | Shad0wcat | so we really don't know WHAT he needs |
| 14:23.12 | valdyn | jsmidt: current directory |
| 14:23.16 | josuoa | nobody knows how to turn on the mic? |
| 14:23.19 | jsmidt | thanks |
| 14:23.26 | abrotman | matthew: you may need a newer kernel .. check at backports.org for a pre-compiled one |
| 14:23.29 | tarzeau | josuoa: using aumix? |
| 14:23.41 | wols_ | yoo: you might have gcc 3.3, but you don't USE it. so now go and do that |
| 14:23.51 | yoo | ok wols_ |
| 14:24.07 | Shad0wcat | I still think he should go and read the readme |
| 14:24.11 | Shad0wcat | but hey, what do I know |
| 14:24.11 | yoo | with make option like make -gcc=gcc-3.0 |
| 14:24.22 | josuoa | tarzeau: no aumix, u mean alsamixer? i have tried that. |
| 14:24.36 | Shad0wcat | yoo: you do understand what reading means right? |
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| 14:24.52 | matthew | abrotman: i will check it out, thanks much |
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| 14:25.07 | Shad0wcat | goto /usr/local/doc/<package name> and read the documentation on what you need to setup if you installed the tarball via apt |
| 14:25.19 | Shad0wcat | OR, goto the site you got it from and look for instructions if you grabbed a tgz |
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| 14:25.30 | Shad0wcat | because gcc-3 might fix it, or it might NOT |
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| 14:25.37 | Shad0wcat | it depends on what the source requires |
| 14:25.46 | Shad0wcat | and you WON'T know that unless you read the documentation |
| 14:26.06 | yoo | cd /usr/share/doc/shfs-source |
| 14:26.12 | yoo | vi NEWS.debian |
| 14:26.14 | yoo | but nothing |
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| 14:26.27 | yoo | no readme in shfs doc |
| 14:26.36 | zauber | Hi... I'm running sarge (with just the stable packages) on an item that's supposed to be a kiosk terminal. For certain reasons, I need to be able to block it from accessing certain web pages based on url (not on host) and figured I could set up a local proxyserver on the machine. Any ideas? |
| 14:26.41 | Shad0wcat | then goto the site that provides the original tarball |
| 14:27.18 | wols_ | zauber: privoxy. of course you realize it's futile? |
| 14:27.32 | zauber | wols_: futile? explain please |
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| 14:28.48 | wols_ | filtersoftware never ever works |
| 14:29.14 | wols_ | there are always one gazillion ways around them, unless you make it so restrictive (whitelist) that the inarweb is useless for your user(s) |
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| 14:29.39 | Shad0wcat | heh that'd be so evil too |
| 14:29.40 | wols_ | wah! |
| 14:29.57 | overflow | Hi, is there any way to create a default debian/rules, debian/control, etc so I can modify manually later? |
| 14:30.30 | zauber | wols_: ah, for this project I just need to let the kiosk have as its homepage www.home.com, but block access to www.home.com/stafflogin.php (just that one page). but for technical reasons I can't do the blocking in some firewall some where or on the www.home.com server. |
| 14:30.55 | wols_ | zauber: learn about .htaccess |
| 14:31.07 | zauber | like I said: I can't work with the server... |
| 14:31.25 | Shad0wcat | then you can't do it |
| 14:31.46 | wols_ | what will happen is the malicious user going and doing the stafflogin.php from some other client. what did you win? |
| 14:32.40 | zauber | because its like this: the server only allows stafflogin from a certain ip. the problem is that that ip is a firefwall with both staff computers and kiosk terminals behind it. and that firewall I am not allowed to touch |
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| 14:33.17 | wols_ | you still can't prevent it |
| 14:33.30 | RichiH | zauber: let them use passwords? |
| 14:33.33 | wols_ | a user can set up his own malicious proxy for example, etc |
| 14:33.38 | RichiH | and tell them to clear the cache |
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| 14:33.55 | zauber | set it up on the kiosk terminal? |
| 14:33.56 | wols_ | your sheme is useless. the only proper way is to secure the server propery. (NOT that "firewall") |
| 14:34.03 | kryptoz | hey all |
| 14:34.08 | yoo | wols_, Shad0wcat |
| 14:34.10 | wols_ | and the tool of choice is .htaccess |
| 14:34.12 | yoo | Check the top-level Makefile for KERNEL_SOURCES variable. It should contain path to your kernel directory |
| 14:34.20 | yoo | for me the same |
| 14:34.26 | yoo | gcc-4.0.3 |
| 14:34.32 | zauber | wols_: can't do it. not my call. |
| 14:34.48 | yoo | cat/proc/version |
| 14:34.52 | yoo | gcc --version |
| 14:34.55 | yoo | 4.0.3 |
| 14:34.57 | kryptoz | my friend installed debian 3.1 in his machine and everything he kept default other than the boot loader installation .. instead of hda (MBR) he rechose it as hda1 bootsector |
| 14:35.04 | wols_ | then at least tell your superiors that they are incompetent :P (different words of course but same meaning, really) |
| 14:35.05 | overflow | Hi, is there any way to create a default debian/rules, debian/control, debian/etc so I can modify manually later? |
| 14:35.16 | kryptoz | now he doesnt get the grub graphical interface; instead it goes to the grub command prompt |
| 14:35.28 | kryptoz | has anyone come across similar problems ? |
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| 14:35.39 | wols_ | overflow: look for a nice easy package and extract them from that. maybe delete a few unneeded lines |
| 14:35.44 | zauber | wols: heh... in fact my superiors agree.. the problem is the "middle firewall" that is run by other totally socially incompetent useless people |
| 14:36.18 | overflow | wols_: :s well ... |
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| 14:36.35 | wols_ | zauber: I have the suspicion you are one of those people... .htaccess. do you know what that is? it never ever touches anything except that server. no firewall |
| 14:36.42 | matteo | how can I submit a bug report wothout knowing the program that have the bug? |
| 14:36.55 | yoo | Shad0wcat, hox to change my version gcc ? |
| 14:37.01 | yoo | i must dowgrade kernel ? |
| 14:37.08 | zauber | wols_: I know exactly what htaccess is. |
| 14:37.12 | zauber | the problem is... |
| 14:37.20 | wols_ | zauber: so what has it to do with a firewall again? |
| 14:37.35 | valdyn | zauber: why cant you set up firewall rules on that kiosk and use a proxy that restricts www.home.com/whatever ? |
| 14:37.46 | zauber | that when the staff people behind the "firewall" access our server, they are coming from the same ip as the terminals. cant tell difference between staff and kiosk |
| 14:37.46 | streuner | matteo: its a big advantage if you would tell the app |
| 14:38.00 | zauber | valdyn: thats what I'm thinking |
| 14:38.01 | matteo | streuner: maybe dchroot, or maybe su |
| 14:38.26 | streuner | matteo: just submit it... |
| 14:38.35 | petemc | matteo: if you dont know whats causing the problem, how can you be sure you're not at fault? |
| 14:38.36 | wols_ | zauber: so? that's why there are password prompts. don't tell me you haven't set up passwords for stafflogin? |
| 14:38.48 | streuner | matteo: folks would be care about then.. |
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| 14:38.55 | matteo | i've asked above |
| 14:38.58 | ChrisW | how'd I find out what the memory usage is on a box? |
| 14:39.02 | matteo | all programs fails to start from a chroot |
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| 14:39.08 | zauber | I have... there's another problem, the system is php based. and yes they need to log on with password protection |
| 14:39.10 | matteo | http://pastebin.com/637701 |
| 14:39.17 | wols_ | ChrisW: free |
| 14:39.18 | matteo | i get a strange error i can't find in google |
| 14:39.20 | zauber | the blockage would just be another measure of security |
| 14:39.25 | Tartarus | hey all, anyone ever seen this? (testing, i386): |
| 14:39.26 | Tartarus | $ firefox |
| 14:39.26 | Tartarus | firefox-bin: ath.c:204: _gcry_ath_mutex_unlock: Assertion `*lock == ((ath_mutex_t) 1)' failed. |
| 14:39.26 | Tartarus | Aborted |
| 14:39.26 | matteo | "umovestr" |
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| 14:39.39 | RichiH | zauber: with good passwords, you do not _need_ another layer |
| 14:39.59 | zauber | RichiH: I know... but this is a contract, not my own system. |
| 14:40.00 | streuner | RichiH: LTNS :-) |
| 14:40.07 | wols_ | zauber: well, you can use a transparent proxy and disable one url I guess. technically it sucks and is just a smokescreen mostly but iit would fool any manager |
| 14:40.07 | RichiH | streuner: indeed |
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| 14:40.17 | zauber | and the superiors want that extra layer - thay don't trust their on system |
| 14:40.17 | ChrisW | wols_: thanks, how much memnory shoul I have free if things are healthy? |
| 14:40.25 | wols_ | ChrisW: zero |
| 14:40.27 | RichiH | streuner: i was in thailand for three weeks, one week in hospital and one week regenrating at home |
| 14:40.30 | zauber | wols_: Good enough for me :) |
| 14:40.32 | Scorpion | Does anyone know a better way to configure xfree86 other than xf86config?.. I'm not having much luck.. |
| 14:40.34 | RichiH | streuner: so yah, ltns ;) |
| 14:40.37 | wols_ | ChrisW: but that's an ideal you never manager |
| 14:40.38 | wols_ | -r |
| 14:40.40 | Serajewe1KS | !drxx Scorpion |
| 14:40.40 | dpkg | Scorpion: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 14:40.53 | ChrisW | indeed |
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| 14:41.08 | matteo | streuner: what i'll put in the Package: line? |
| 14:41.09 | ChrisW | okay, so I have 993Mb in use |
| 14:41.16 | ChrisW | how do I find otu what the biggest users of that are? |
| 14:41.33 | streuner | RichiH: /me raises eyeborw |
| 14:41.39 | Eulex | ChrisW, top |
| 14:41.43 | wols_ | ChrisW: top. but it never works very well since linux is multitasking and uses VM |
| 14:41.50 | RichiH | streuner: heh |
| 14:41.51 | valdyn | ChrisW: you shouldnt have memory free if things are healthy ( except very few ) |
| 14:42.11 | streuner | RichiH: what happend there? |
| 14:42.14 | Scorpion | xorg?.. I installed x-window-system ... should I have installed x-org? is that easier? xfree86 is doing my head in |
| 14:42.16 | RichiH | plus, top will show shared libs more than once |
| 14:42.26 | RichiH | streuner: i got an infection on a wound at my foot |
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| 14:42.41 | ChrisW | indeed |
| 14:42.51 | RichiH | streuner: as the bacteria is totally different from what our european immune systems are used to, it is rather bad.. |
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| 14:43.08 | wols_ | Scorpion: no you shouldn't. what you install depends on debian version |
| 14:43.11 | RichiH | streuner: with one week in hospital i got of lucky, anyway |
| 14:43.11 | LSorensen | Scorpion: sarge uses xfree86 (unless you get it from backports.org then you can get x.org), etch and sid both use x.org |
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| 14:43.24 | Eulex | ChrisW, a quick estimation of how to figure out how much memory a program uses is to take the rss and subtract the shr from it |
| 14:43.25 | RichiH | streuner: last they had stayed four weeks in intensive care |
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| 14:43.35 | wols_ | Scorpion: and xfree and xorg come from the same codebase, are configured the same way, ask the same questions... |
| 14:43.49 | Scorpion | I'm fairly certain I'm using Sarge.. I'm having the worst time configuring x windows... it just wont detect my monitor/screen |
| 14:43.57 | LSorensen | Scorpion: what video card? |
| 14:44.04 | Scorpion | Nvidia 6200 |
| 14:44.05 | valdyn | !noscreensfound |
| 14:44.05 | dpkg | methinks noscreensfound is probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. There will be an earlier error (marked "(EE)") that is the actual problem. |
| 14:44.06 | streuner | RichiH: woundnt it be better to get in .de help...? |
| 14:44.10 | LSorensen | Scorpion: that's too new I suspect. |
| 14:44.22 | valdyn | Scorpion: noscreensfound has NOTHING to do with your monitor |
| 14:44.28 | wols_ | Scorpion: nv won't work afaik. use VESA |
| 14:44.32 | LSorensen | Scorpion: well actually if you install nvidia-glx, it might work |
| 14:44.50 | LSorensen | Scorpion: using the nvidia (not nv) driver |
| 14:44.53 | streuner | RichiH: i mean, i would go to the flight.... |
| 14:45.06 | LSorensen | Scorpion: but you have to enable non-free and contrib in sources.list to do that |
| 14:45.10 | Scorpion | I'm not concerned with 3d graphics... as long as it runs moderately fast, will VESA do the trick? |
| 14:45.13 | wols_ | Scorpion: start with VESA. when that works, THEN you can change to an accelerated nvidia binary driver |
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| 14:45.17 | streuner | RichiH: next* |
| 14:45.32 | LSorensen | Scorpion: vesa will be very slow. nvidia-glx is not just for 3D, it is also handy for simply getting newer nvidia cards working |
| 14:45.34 | wols_ | Scorpion: vesa is not fast. but it beats no picture at all, does it? |
| 14:45.40 | Eulex | Scorpion, vesa will give extremely slow software rendering of 3d graphics |
| 14:45.54 | LSorensen | Eulex: and extremely slow software rendering of 2D too |
| 14:45.57 | Devasssss | has anyone saw this error on xorg? Caught signal 11. Fatal error... |
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| 14:46.27 | Eulex | LSorensen, indeed, but that's not that critical |
| 14:46.36 | Phil[da] | hi, can someone help me with iSCSI?? |
| 14:47.10 | LSorensen | Scorpion: Well I won't recomend using vesa. I recomend either the nvidia binary driver, or x.org from backports. |
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| 14:47.36 | streuner | Phil[da]: as long as you dont ask nobody can... |
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| 14:48.19 | Scorpion | wow! that did the trick!!! |
| 14:48.26 | Phil[da] | i good weird messages with doing make, there are DBM errors |
| 14:48.29 | laludelala | hallo! |
| 14:48.54 | streuner | RichiH: sorry |
| 14:49.18 | laludelala | I wanted to switch from LILO to GRUB. I already installed GRUB-package, but no "/boot/grub" directory was made - is there a way for this to happen automatically? |
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| 14:50.27 | bugs_ | perhaps with grub-install |
| 14:50.46 | wols_ | yes, grub-install |
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| 14:51.03 | laludelala | bugs_, if I do not have either a grub-directory, nor a "menu.lst"? |
| 14:51.27 | wols_ | laludelala: you have a grub-install. and unless you run that, you won't ever have a grub directory |
| 14:51.35 | laludelala | wols_, OK |
| 14:51.38 | wols_ | man grub-install |
| 14:52.03 | wols_ | apt-getting grub doesn't really "install" it |
| 14:52.07 | laludelala | OK, thx |
| 14:52.26 | bugs_ | grub-install /dev/hda i think |
| 14:52.33 | RichiH | streuner: hospital was in .de |
| 14:52.45 | RichiH | but only beacuse they gave me antibiotics in .th |
| 14:52.50 | RichiH | else, i would of stayed there |
| 14:53.02 | stew | laludelala: is /boot a separate partition? |
| 14:53.04 | RichiH | no chance of transport if that had broken out in /th |
| 14:53.07 | streuner | RichiH: ic |
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| 14:53.25 | laludelala | stew, no, it is not |
| 14:53.29 | RichiH | streuner: i had pneumonia once. i never felt worse in my live except for that one time |
| 14:55.45 | streuner | RichiH: they didn't let you fly at all? |
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| 14:55.58 | RichiH | it timed out well enough |
| 14:56.16 | RichiH | but i would not have been able to stand 12 hours of plane in that condidtion |
| 14:56.20 | RichiH | condition |
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| 14:56.57 | RichiH | streuner: to give you a rough idea of how bad the symptoms were, i was brought to hospital cause they thought i had malaria |
| 14:57.10 | RichiH | in germany, not .th |
| 14:57.31 | tomas__ | ctrl + alt & alt-gr won't work in X, although it works in console. i tried dpkg-reconfigure [console-data & locales]. i'd like them to work in X aswell. i know you have the answer. ANSWER ME |
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| 14:59.25 | laludelala | bye |
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| 15:03.34 | scoates | hello. under "Cpu(s): ..." in top, what is "wa" ? google is fruitless because the search string is so short. |
| 15:04.07 | tarzeau | scoates: manpage? |
| 15:04.27 | scoates | tarzeau: I looked. It may be there, but I don't see it. |
| 15:04.34 | scoates | "wa" is ambiguous |
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| 15:07.29 | centrx | scoates, probably wait |
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| 15:08.38 | scoates | centrx: that was my guess too. This number is very high -- is there a way to identify the proess(es) that is(are) "waiting" ? |
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| 15:09.10 | wols_ | scoates: waiting for IO iirc, like harddisks |
| 15:09.19 | wols_ | do you use busmaster dma? |
| 15:09.20 | Devasssss | has anyone saw this error on xorg? Caught signal 11. Fatal error... |
| 15:09.22 | Devasssss | opsss |
| 15:09.24 | Devasssss | i compiled kernel 2.6.16.1 but it says: Ok, booting the kernel and stops there.. what is the problem? |
| 15:09.37 | tarzeau | Devasssss: what's your kernel config file? |
| 15:09.37 | matteo | http://bugs.debian.org/360600 |
| 15:09.50 | tarzeau | Devasssss: mine works, www.linuks.mine.nu/make-kpkg/ |
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| 15:09.57 | scoates | wols_: not sure. hardware is colo (not ours). |
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| 15:10.19 | Devasssss | tarzeau i compiled by hand.. |
| 15:10.19 | wdamn | Hi, a good howto for udev? |
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| 15:10.20 | tarzeau | Devasssss: i used make-kpkg |
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| 15:13.55 | scoates | hmm.. found some suspect processes with status D; killed them |
| 15:14.05 | scoates | now I have zombies )-: |
| 15:15.03 | tarzeau | put them in a chest or ice box |
| 15:16.10 | scoates | oh? garlic doesn't work? |
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| 15:22.57 | Skrot | Hi. I've got a LVM system mounted. After a power failure I get "read only file system" when I try to write to it. What could be the problem? |
| 15:23.20 | wols_ | that the filesystem is read only of course. didn't you read? |
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| 15:23.30 | wols_ | fsck them and remount |
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| 15:24.03 | Skrot | wols_: Okay. So I fsck the devices (e.g /dev/hde) and remount the lvm? |
| 15:24.31 | sysforce | To compile my kernel using amd64 bits flag i need to download Debian AMD64 project, so... ? |
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| 15:25.18 | sambrista | hi! I use fluxbox and i would like to know how can i make my xterm background transparent |
| 15:25.29 | sambrista | can anyone help me? |
| 15:26.11 | wols_ | run atermn or such |
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| 15:27.42 | tarzeau | etch, sarge, sid are .... . fill the gap! |
| 15:28.14 | abrotman | xterm doesn't support transparency |
| 15:28.19 | abrotman | or .. it didn't used to |
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| 15:29.06 | sambrista | oh. Well, i had damn small linux on a computer and the terminal was transpared, i thought it was xterm |
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| 15:29.30 | Skrot | wols_: Not to be a nag, but do you mind helping me out a bit? Don't want to destroy any of the data here :) |
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| 15:29.40 | abrotman | sambrista: Eterm supports quasi-transparency |
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| 15:30.04 | sambrista | abrotman: the problem is that i run a computer with low resources |
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| 15:30.14 | abrotman | sambrista: but you want transparency? |
| 15:31.02 | IquO | hi, i'm trying to enable_wol=1 while loading the 3c59x driver, it perfectly wol if i modconf the module and write the option enable_wol=1, but i would like to do it automatically, where do i pass the options when loading the kernel at start up?? |
| 15:31.20 | sambrista | abrotman: that's the question. I had a pentium 166 mhz with damn small linux and the terminal had transparency (fake transparency of course) |
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| 15:31.44 | abrotman | sambrista: i'm only aware of Eterm that does it |
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| 15:32.06 | netdaemon | anyone compile bittorrent 4.4.0 for debian etch? |
| 15:32.12 | abrotman | sambrista: wols_ suggested antoher ... try `apt-cache search term transparen` |
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| 15:32.23 | abrotman | !anyone |
| 15:32.23 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 15:32.28 | sambrista | abrotman: i'll do |
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| 15:32.47 | abrotman | sambrista: and i left off the (t|cy) intentionally |
| 15:33.26 | resiak | abrotman: About every terminal ever does it |
| 15:33.39 | abrotman | resiak: does xterm ? |
| 15:33.50 | resiak | abrotman: Notably, no ;) |
| 15:33.52 | abrotman | heh |
| 15:34.03 | abrotman | maybe with xorg/xgl/compiz it might .. not sure |
| 15:34.46 | netdaemon | ok then, i'v having problems compiling bittorrent 4.4.0 from source using the instructions here... http://www.bittorrent.com/faq.myt#debinstall , i get the following error after running the first command (python setup.py bdist_dumb), error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) |
| 15:34.57 | resiak | urvxt and aterm both do it |
| 15:35.04 | abrotman | !find python2.4/config/Makefile etch |
| 15:35.11 | netdaemon | i also get various references to msgmerge and msgfmt command not found |
| 15:35.17 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'python2.4/config/Makefile' (1): (/usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile) in python/python2.4-dev. |
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| 15:35.26 | abrotman | netdaemon: do you ahve python2.4-dev installed? |
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| 15:35.33 | netdaemon | that may be my prob o_O |
| 15:35.38 | abrotman | imagine that |
| 15:35.43 | abrotman | !tell netdaemon about search |
| 15:35.59 | netdaemon | meh |
| 15:36.13 | netdaemon | sorry for the n00bish question =P |
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| 15:36.30 | abrotman | netdaemon: it happens .. but next time .. you lose a finger! |
| 15:36.41 | netdaemon | i did search for python2.4 but it didn't dawn on me that it was in python2.4-dev =P |
| 15:36.59 | netdaemon | its still quite early in the morning for me =S |
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| 15:37.21 | IquO | hi, i'm trying to enable_wol=1 while loading the 3c59x driver, it perfectly wol if i modconf the module and write the option enable_wol=1, but i would like to do it automatically, where do i pass the options when loading the kernel at start up?? |
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| 15:42.19 | Serajewe1KS | i don't suppose there's a way to unmount a filesystem while some program has a file open on it |
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| 15:42.32 | peoro | hi \**/ |
| 15:43.00 | GoAuLd | SerajewelKS, there is a way |
| 15:43.06 | SerajewelKS | GoAuLd: umount -l? |
| 15:43.15 | GoAuLd | fuser -k /dev/filesys |
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| 15:43.48 | SerajewelKS | GoAuLd: apparently you didn't read my question |
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| 15:44.20 | SerajewelKS | GoAuLd: the "while some program has a file open on it" doesn't mean "kill the process" |
| 15:44.30 | GoAuLd | Ok |
| 15:44.31 | wols_ | Skrot: since it's RO you shouldn't destroy anything. and what you need to fsck is the LVM as a whole of course, cause that's the structure which might be affected |
| 15:44.50 | sysforce | I Can use Debian64 port and install packages from another repository that is not from Debian64 ? |
| 15:44.51 | Skrot | wols_: Yes, I'm "fsck /dev/opt/storage" now |
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| 15:44.59 | Skrot | wols_: And I unmounted it first, correct? |
| 15:45.00 | SerajewelKS | GoAuLd: i want the program to receive an IO error |
| 15:45.09 | SerajewelKS | GoAuLd: or any error really |
| 15:45.52 | wols_ | unmount is good if you can yes |
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| 15:46.31 | Skrot | wols_: Okay. Any idea how long that should take for 1TB? :p |
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| 15:47.16 | wols_ | Skrot: depends on the speed of your disk :P |
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| 15:47.45 | wols_ | Skrot: usually linux tells you why it's mounted RO only. didn't it for you? |
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| 15:48.01 | IquO | hi, i'm trying to enable_wol=1 while loading the 3c59x driver, it perfectly wol if i modconf the module and write the option enable_wol=1, but i would like to do it automatically, where do i pass the options when loading the kernel at start up?? |
| 15:48.25 | Skrot | wols_: dunno, I didn't start it with a screen and I didn't check the logs. But there was a power failure involved, so probably some damage to the file system. |
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| 15:48.47 | Skrot | wols_: Discs are 4x250GB 7200RPM ATA-100 8MB Cache, so it's more like 900GB anyway |
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| 15:50.30 | wols_ | Skrot: there is syslog, kern.log and dmesg |
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| 15:51.49 | Skrot | wols_: I know, should check after fsck is done. I killed of ssh in order to make umounting work, so I'll have to wait :> |
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| 15:53.46 | ChrisW | hi there, how can I check what the spec of a debian server is? |
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| 15:53.52 | asathru | Is there any way I can download a password-protected pdf file ? |
| 15:53.53 | ChrisW | I guess, in particular, processor speed? |
| 15:54.24 | ChrisW | asathru: not sure what that has to do with debian, but what's stopping you from downloading it in the same way as any other pdf? |
| 15:54.55 | orlowsks | I was wondering if there is dvr software for security camera's? I see alot of resellers selling embedded linux based dvr solutions, but i'm wondering what app. they are utlizing. Thank you in advance |
| 15:55.00 | Eulex | asathru, cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 15:55.08 | Eulex | umh |
| 15:55.11 | ChrisW | Eulex: thanks ;-) |
| 15:55.25 | asathru | ChrisW: trying to download using debian, it asks for a username/password - is there any way around this ? tried wget & snarf |
| 15:55.34 | Eulex | yeah, was meant for ChrisW, not asathru |
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| 15:55.42 | ChrisW | well, it means you need to provide auth details |
| 15:55.44 | ChrisW | what's the url |
| 15:55.45 | ChrisW | ? |
| 15:55.58 | kimo | does anyone know if DoD has it's own Linux distro ?? |
| 15:56.21 | stew | asathru: what was the problem with using wget? |
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| 15:56.35 | asathru | url is : http://www.booksites.net/download/burns/download/download_files/answers.pdf |
| 15:56.47 | ChrisW | ee gads, one of my boxes is a 900Mhz PIII :-S |
| 15:56.47 | asathru | access denied with wget |
| 15:57.13 | stew | asathru: even specifying the username and password with wget? |
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| 15:57.36 | asathru | i can't specify them as i don't have them! ;-) |
| 15:57.41 | ChrisW | asathru: that url is password protected |
| 15:57.50 | Eulex | ChrisW, and cat /proc/meminfo for memory info |
| 15:57.50 | ChrisW | so no, you cant' download it unless you know the username and password to use |
| 15:57.56 | stew | ... |
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| 15:59.01 | Triton | Is there anyway to recover deleted files after i've formatted a couple of times? |
| 15:59.20 | asathru | ChrisW: i knew it was protected. trying to find a way around it. |
| 15:59.23 | ChrisW | Triton: pay a data recovery expert a few thousand $$$ |
| 15:59.30 | ChrisW | asathru: stop being a dick |
| 15:59.45 | ChrisW | if it's password protected, it's like that for a reason |
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| 15:59.51 | Eulex | asathru, you can't. you need to know the username and password. |
| 15:59.56 | stew | asathru: asking for help stealing content is not welcome on this network |
| 15:59.56 | thingfish | Triton: some professional data recovery service ($$$) may be able to, but you probably can't. |
| 15:59.59 | peoro | hi! can you give me some url where learn how to install a bootsplash? |
| 16:00.00 | xomhau | ho * |
| 16:00.02 | xomhau | hi * |
| 16:00.14 | Triton | is there a program or something |
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| 16:00.20 | Triton | i need to atleast try |
| 16:00.49 | Eulex | Triton, if the data hasn't been overwritten it may be possible to grep on you hdd for it. |
| 16:00.58 | Eulex | Triton, otherwise, no. |
| 16:01.02 | xomhau | in file /etc/apt/sources.list can i write many mirror? |
| 16:01.10 | ChrisW | otherwise, it's not so much software you need as very specialised hardware... |
| 16:01.17 | Eulex | xomhau, yes |
| 16:01.36 | Triton | oh |
| 16:02.01 | kimo | Hi, does anyone know if DoD has it's own Linux distro ?? |
| 16:02.15 | Eulex | kimo, in any case, we only do pure debian in here |
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| 16:02.22 | xomhau | Eulex, both testing and unstable? |
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| 16:02.53 | Eulex | xomhau, sure, but if you don't do more than that, you'll upgrade to unstable next time you upgrade |
| 16:02.55 | thingfish | I would think the DoD website would have that info. |
| 16:03.10 | ChrisW | what's DoD? |
| 16:03.15 | Eulex | !dod |
| 16:03.15 | dpkg | somebody said dod was Dial on Demand, a way of making the modem dial whenever you try and send info to the inet |
| 16:03.20 | Eulex | umh |
| 16:03.24 | infernix | dungeons or dragons |
| 16:03.24 | Eulex | probably not that :) |
| 16:03.30 | ChrisW | eh? |
| 16:03.36 | thingfish | I'm taking it to mean department of defense. |
| 16:03.37 | Eulex | s/or/and/ |
| 16:04.17 | _wendell | How can I make modprobe load a kernel module that was made for a different kernel version? |
| 16:04.26 | kimo | _wendell: u cant |
| 16:04.30 | infernix | modprobe -f, but generally you cant |
| 16:04.34 | _wendell | kimo: Impossible, eh? |
| 16:04.42 | kimo | _wendell: recompile for new kernel |
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| 16:04.44 | _wendell | Damn, too bad |
| 16:04.56 | kimo | _wendell: or get old kernel! |
| 16:05.03 | _wendell | Do you guys know about this nightmarish install problem on Oldworld macs? You can't get to the initrd image that gets installed to move it to the MacOS partition |
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| 16:05.21 | _wendell | And you have to boot using it |
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| 16:08.03 | _wendell | Is there any way I can get the default-installed initrd image from the install media? |
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| 16:08.22 | aphexer | how come there is no glib-config in glib2.0-dev and there is one in glib1.2-dev ? |
| 16:08.51 | streuner | _wendell: chroot into that box aqnd install another kernel |
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| 16:10.23 | sandman | Do I have to configure the mail system in my chroots? |
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| 16:11.36 | StereoSkit | wtf! |
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| 16:11.41 | streuner | true, that's why we in debian, troll somewhere else :-) |
| 16:11.42 | sandman | Or can I just leave that unconfigured? |
| 16:11.45 | wols_ | sandman: hm? |
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| 16:12.55 | _wendell | streuner: How? :) I can't get the box to -boot- without moving that initrd |
| 16:12.56 | StereoSkit | stew: lol |
| 16:13.10 | StereoSkit | err streuner i ment |
| 16:13.12 | _wendell | streuner: I can get the Debian installer to come up -- and install a base system... |
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| 16:13.51 | streuner | _wendell: d-i has udev, use another boot-floppy or CDROM (knoppix) to boot into your system |
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| 16:14.53 | DevilChaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.54 | forall | how can i configure a Belkin wlan card on Ubuntu 5.10 ????? |
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| 16:15.09 | streuner | forall: #ubuntu |
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| 16:16.00 | forall | it is Debian based so i ask |
| 16:16.10 | Eulex | !based on debian |
| 16:16.10 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 16:16.13 | plutonas | forall this is not #ubuntu |
| 16:17.02 | forall | thank you |
| 16:17.22 | forall | you all been too helpfull |
| 16:17.27 | Holborn | hi, any utility for extract image bitmaps from a binary file? |
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| 16:18.21 | kblin | forall: well, I've never installed ubuntu anywhere, how would you expect me to help you with a system I don't know? |
| 16:18.22 | argent | hello |
| 16:18.26 | Triton | I just installed a program with apt, how do i run it though? |
| 16:18.40 | plutonas | Triton which one? |
| 16:18.43 | argent | Triton: which prog |
| 16:18.45 | Triton | mondo |
| 16:18.45 | azeem | Triton: dpkg -L <program> | grep bin might give you a hint |
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| 16:19.02 | plutonas | give mondo command. Should work |
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| 16:19.27 | petemc | Triton: cd /usr/share/doc/mondo... |
| 16:19.49 | plutonas | I used KDE so far but now that I installed debian on my laptop, I wanted to give a try to gnome. But: When gnome starts there comes an error message that there is something wrong with XKB, and I should either try a simpler xkb-configuration, or send a bug report. I press OK and everything works fine, but this message is very annoying. What could I do??? |
| 16:20.13 | plutonas | I asked the same at #gnome but couldn't get a hint |
| 16:20.19 | Triton | mondo command doesn't, no docs were with it but i'll sese |
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| 16:20.49 | azeem | Triton: there is a mondo-doc package with additional documentation |
| 16:20.56 | plutonas | Triton, try azeems solution |
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| 16:21.14 | Triton | ok, thanks |
| 16:22.14 | plutonas | can you please help me I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 multiple times and tryed different setting each time but nothing works |
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| 16:23.59 | DevilChaos | im also getting this error in the startup script ENS1371: probe of 0000:02:10.0 failed with error -12 |
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| 16:27.08 | DevilChaos | hda_codec: num_steps = 0 for NID=0x9 is suposed to be the nvidia kernel module how do i disable it please? |
| 16:27.23 | argent | DevilChaos: try #kernel |
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| 16:28.59 | wols_ | plutonas: which videocard? |
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| 16:29.33 | wols_ | oops. xkb. didn't read all |
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| 16:30.15 | fmasi | how do i know what version of bind is in use ona a non debia system ? |
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| 16:31.25 | Luftzig | Evening all |
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| 16:32.03 | daryl- | anyone with etch able to tell me their apt sources.list |
| 16:32.05 | daryl- | thanks |
| 16:32.16 | Luftzig | I get those errors when I run apt-get update: W: Duplicate sources.list entry ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) |
| 16:32.18 | Luftzig | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 16:32.19 | Luftzig | E: Error occurred while processing gcc-3.3 (NewVersion1) |
| 16:32.21 | Luftzig | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 16:32.22 | Luftzig | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 16:32.29 | argent | daryl-: sure. just a sec |
| 16:32.47 | argent | what happened to debhelper's kick-flooders policy? |
| 16:33.26 | streuner | Luftzig: /msg dpkg dynamic mmap |
| 16:33.57 | daryl- | argent: cheers |
| 16:34.39 | argent | daryl-: which country do you live in? |
| 16:34.44 | daryl- | uk |
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| 16:35.10 | Luftzig | streuner, thanks |
| 16:35.10 | Red_Cloud | daryl, # deb file:///cdrom/ etch main |
| 16:35.11 | Red_Cloud | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main |
| 16:35.11 | Red_Cloud | deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing/ etch/security-updates main contrib non-free |
| 16:35.16 | DevilChaos | what is gaim? |
| 16:35.26 | thingfish | chat client |
| 16:35.27 | streuner | !info gaim |
| 16:35.29 | argent | DevilChaos: instant messenger |
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| 16:35.31 | dpkg | gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-3 (sid), Packaged size: 874 kB, Installed size: 2200 kB |
| 16:35.37 | triller | -/usr/lib/libx.so: no version information available (required by <<< anybody knowing what's version information in the shared libs ? |
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| 16:36.30 | argent | daryl-: http://pastebin.com/638028 |
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| 16:36.55 | daryl- | merci |
| 16:37.05 | argent | dpkg, good to see you back |
| 16:37.12 | argent | daryl-: np |
| 16:37.13 | DevilChaos | i have another error with amixer but cant find it in var/log/messages where should i look? |
| 16:37.17 | streuner | 20 CDs . 129,90 |
| 16:37.17 | streuner | Shipping With Jewel-Case . 34,00 |
| 16:37.17 | streuner | With Jewel-Case with insurance . 42,00 |
| 16:37.17 | streuner | Without Jewel-Case. . 17,00 |
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| 16:37.37 | DevilChaos | :( |
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| 16:38.12 | DevilChaos | sorry where else should i look? |
| 16:38.34 | streuner | wth happened? |
| 16:38.36 | argent | DevilChaos: probally no one here knows |
| 16:38.40 | tanja | why i cant use acqua theme ? i have sarge...and acqua theme can be used, but i cant use window decoration theme. |
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| 16:39.18 | argent | tanja: aqua theme for what? |
| 16:39.39 | tanja | argent, for kde. |
| 16:39.55 | tanja | argent, window decoration, style |
| 16:39.56 | tanja | .. |
| 16:40.30 | argent | tanja: is there any error it is giving? |
| 16:40.40 | tanja | argent, hm...yes. |
| 16:40.42 | tanja | sec |
| 16:41.39 | tanja | argent, QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used |
| 16:41.40 | tanja | QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used |
| 16:41.55 | argent | tanja: try #kde |
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| 16:42.15 | Luftzig | I also get this error: gzip: stdin: not in gzip format |
| 16:42.16 | Luftzig | Err http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Packages |
| 16:42.18 | Luftzig | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:42.43 | Eulex | !mmap |
| 16:42.44 | dpkg | it has been said that dynamic mmap is "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ The release notes tell you to use Aptitude, not apt-get, for Sarge upgrades. see <release notes> |
| 16:42.48 | Eulex | Luftzig, ^^ |
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| 16:43.27 | Luftzig | it's all the same, eh? |
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| 16:44.11 | Eulex | !moo |
| 16:44.11 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 16:44.27 | holycow | hey offtopic, but what is the nick of the meanest dude in here? |
| 16:44.41 | Eulex | Luftzig, yeah, quite probable that the other errors are caused by the mmap error |
| 16:44.47 | holycow | generally he chews out newbs like there is no tommorrow but is actdually quite technically profficient? |
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| 16:44.55 | holycow | Eulex, ehe |
| 16:45.19 | wols_ | holycow: there are no such persons in here :) |
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| 16:45.27 | holycow | rofl! |
| 16:45.29 | Luftzig | Eulex, I just changed that, and some of the errors disappear, but some not, including the last one |
| 16:45.33 | holycow | wols_, good one :) |
| 16:45.50 | Eulex | Luftzig, sorry, no idea |
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| 16:46.33 | holycow | nm got it :) |
| 16:46.46 | Eulex | who? :) |
| 16:47.04 | sandman | Does exim send mail also? |
| 16:47.09 | Luftzig | well, I'll give some through check at the next holiday. thank you guys |
| 16:47.20 | resiak | sandman: yep, if configured correctly |
| 16:47.45 | sandman | Well, I want my chroot to send mail to loopback and root regarding stuff related to the chroot |
| 16:47.50 | azeem | holycow: tell us! |
| 16:47.58 | holycow | mwilson |
| 16:47.59 | holycow | *cough* |
| 16:48.00 | sandman | But I already ahve exim running.. won't it try to bind to the same address? |
| 16:48.03 | sandman | Or will mail just appear in both the chroot, and in hte governing system? |
| 16:48.11 | sandman | Because exim is running twice |
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| 16:51.42 | cahoot | holycow: you can still study his style on debian.user mailing list - though much mollified |
| 16:52.08 | holycow | cahoot i don't mean the guy any harm at all, he knew his stuff |
| 16:52.09 | holycow | but boy |
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| 16:52.29 | Laney | Is there a nice way that I can call a program multiple times, incrementing a value by 0.1 each time? For example - myprog --alpha 0.1 --outfile 0.1.jpg, then 0.2, 0.3 etc? |
| 16:52.40 | holycow | i really want to see more newbs welcomed into the debian fold on better terms, this is certainly welcome news |
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| 16:56.47 | jayeola | i know that there is swap space, but could one use, say a usb key as ram? |
| 16:56.49 | EdibleText | Laney, a for loop perhaps |
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| 16:57.11 | holycow | jayeola, you wouldn't want to |
| 16:57.15 | Laney | Yeah, I'll just do a little shell script if there's no little tool to do it |
| 16:57.23 | holycow | jayeola, if you did you would burn up the usb stick in a few minutes |
| 16:57.24 | Laney | Thanks |
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| 16:57.46 | jayeola | uh, huh - thanks. ram for this laptop costs uber money.... |
| 16:57.53 | holycow | jayeola, they only have limited write capacity, using a usb key as ram would basically use up that write limit in a few minutes |
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| 16:58.12 | holycow | jayeola, well ram is cheaper than replacing usb sticks litterally every 5 minutes |
| 16:58.29 | jayeola | holycow: this usb key is garunteeed to write a million times? that's not enough? |
| 16:58.37 | EdibleText | heh'\ |
| 16:58.37 | zinx | jayeola: no where near enough |
| 16:58.41 | zinx | jayeola: plus it's extremely slow |
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| 16:58.47 | holycow | jayeola, you can write a million times in a few seconds |
| 16:58.48 | zinx | jayeola: like, usually slower than a hard drive. |
| 16:58.53 | zinx | jayeola: just with faster seek time |
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| 16:59.03 | holycow | or at least make a million write requests in a few seconds |
| 16:59.09 | jayeola | right... thanks.. gotta get more ram then :/ |
| 16:59.14 | holycow | *nod* |
| 16:59.29 | jayeola | interesting stuff chaps. thanks for answering.. |
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| 17:01.13 | tanja | checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! -> whats wrong ?! |
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| 17:05.30 | peoro | tanja, have you libx11-dev installed? |
| 17:06.03 | tanja | peoro, no, installing |
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| 17:06.13 | veera | hello all |
| 17:07.52 | veera | what is the driver in xorg for intel mobile graphics controller |
| 17:07.58 | Shadowcat | i810 |
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| 17:09.03 | paveq | hi |
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| 17:09.33 | tanja | peoro, now is problem in libjpeg and qt..what now ? |
| 17:09.35 | zcero | lip |
| 17:09.37 | nuxil | i have a seriouse issue here people.. you know when you lock the screen from the K menu at the kicker,,, it lockes the screen alright,, but when i try to unlock it,, it wount,, it just fails.. |
| 17:09.43 | zcero | Eooo Lip |
| 17:09.45 | zcero | estas por ahi |
| 17:09.55 | nuxil | pw not wrong |
| 17:10.01 | nuxil | caps not on |
| 17:10.08 | peoro | tanja, do the same: install -dev version of qt and libjpeg :P |
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| 17:10.14 | nuxil | so why wount it unlock |
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| 17:10.29 | E-bola3 | Hello |
| 17:10.39 | tanja | peoro, :P okey, tnx |
| 17:10.53 | peoro | :) |
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| 17:12.13 | paveq | I swiched sources from stable to testing, upgraded, and now aptitude complains something like source can't be trusted |
| 17:12.16 | paveq | why is that |
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| 17:12.42 | azeem | !2006 key |
| 17:12.42 | dpkg | well, 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. You can also install the key as follow, explicitly trusting this message with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 17:13.31 | paveq | ok... |
| 17:13.34 | E-bola3 | Recently my debian nat firewall started being real slow for all the clients behind it |
| 17:13.44 | E-bola3 | incomming traffic is fine, but outgoing is 1/10 of what it should be |
| 17:13.56 | E-bola3 | while speed fromt he firewall box itself is normal, any idea what mgiht cause this? |
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| 17:14.19 | paveq | btw does stable still use xfree86? |
| 17:14.34 | paveq | least it showed up as depency somewhere |
| 17:14.41 | azeem | yes |
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| 17:14.52 | paveq | uh |
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| 17:15.04 | paveq | I want xorg.. |
| 17:15.10 | paveq | guess thats in testing? |
| 17:15.13 | Shadowcat | do you _need_ xorg? |
| 17:15.18 | [machine] | anyone know why debian testing installer can't find the cd on an ibm eserver x306? |
| 17:15.23 | paveq | well, uh, I want it :) |
| 17:15.28 | paveq | xfree is old |
| 17:15.31 | Shadowcat | paveq: not good enough |
| 17:15.35 | Shadowcat | so I'll ask you again |
| 17:15.39 | Shadowcat | do you _need_ xorg? |
| 17:15.44 | paveq | I just came from gentoo with xorg 7.0 and kde 3.5.2 |
| 17:15.49 | paveq | didn't work too well |
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| 17:15.57 | Shadowcat | strange |
| 17:15.59 | Shadowcat | works fine here |
| 17:16.03 | Shadowcat | you must not be skilled enough |
| 17:16.08 | paveq | .. |
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| 17:16.19 | paveq | Shadowcat: I blame gentoo |
| 17:16.26 | Shadowcat | paveq: well we blame you |
| 17:16.28 | azeem | paveq: testing has xorg, yes |
| 17:16.28 | paveq | it just broke itself |
| 17:16.32 | Shadowcat | I'm proving a point here |
| 17:16.37 | Shadowcat | if you don't need xorg |
| 17:16.42 | Shadowcat | why the hell are you upgrading to it? |
| 17:16.46 | Shadowcat | do you WANT problems? |
| 17:16.52 | azeem | paveq: if xfree86 supports your graphics card, there's no good reason to upgrade, though |
| 17:16.59 | plutonas | has anyone of you had problems with mplayer, so that It played only sound? |
| 17:17.03 | paveq | I want latest |
| 17:17.04 | Shadowcat | because if you're upgrading just for kicks most of us in here won't be very inclined to help you |
| 17:17.09 | paveq | xorg is stable enough I think |
| 17:17.11 | Shadowcat | paveq: again, not good enough |
| 17:17.16 | azeem | paveq: yes, but testing isn't |
| 17:17.20 | paveq | everyooone uses it |
| 17:17.21 | Shadowcat | paveq: yes that's why you screwed it up in gentoo |
| 17:17.28 | EdibleText | Shadowcat, amen brother currently going through upgrade hell.. |
| 17:17.31 | amoi | hello ppl. where can i download the latest iso for debian? |
| 17:17.34 | azeem | paveq: there is an xorg backport for Debian stable at www.backports.org |
| 17:17.37 | Shadowcat | right, dinner |
| 17:17.40 | azeem | amoi: cdimage.debian.org |
| 17:17.55 | paveq | is there something wrong with testing |
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| 17:18.25 | paveq | unstable I think is really, unstable |
| 17:18.40 | paveq | even thought some of my friends prefer it |
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| 17:18.59 | azeem | paveq: testing is somewhat alright, but it has issues |
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| 17:19.04 | EdibleText | paveq, testing is a moving target. and thus is not considered stable |
| 17:19.10 | azeem | paveq: and you cannot downgrade back to stable when you encounter them |
| 17:19.11 | paveq | yep |
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| 17:19.22 | paveq | well I can't be worse than gentoo |
| 17:19.38 | EdibleText | analwarts maybe |
| 17:19.43 | tanja | peoro, checking for KDE... configure: error: |
| 17:19.44 | tanja | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. |
| 17:19.44 | tanja | So, check this please and use another prefix! |
| 17:19.52 | paveq | I don't want to be stuck for same old software for years |
| 17:20.06 | azeem | paveq: www.backports.org |
| 17:20.14 | E-bola3 | Can u track packages changes? |
| 17:20.16 | peoro | mh o,o |
| 17:20.19 | azeem | paveq: is this a desktop workstation you're talking about? |
| 17:20.23 | E-bola3 | like can i see somewhere what packages was remove/upgraded in the past 14 days? |
| 17:20.27 | paveq | azeem: whats the real difference to testing |
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| 17:20.33 | paveq | azeem: yes |
| 17:20.37 | azeem | paveq: difference from what? |
| 17:20.47 | paveq | backports vs testing |
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| 17:21.02 | wols_ | paveq: backports is not made to fill your whole distro from it. it's only if you miss just this new versin of Y |
| 17:21.04 | peoro | tanja have you kde-devel? |
| 17:21.06 | azeem | with backports you cherry-pick some newer versions of applications you need |
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| 17:21.16 | wols_ | paveq: if you want to be mode "Up 2 date", use testing |
| 17:21.19 | azeem | testing will give you new (and possibly broken) stuff for everything |
| 17:21.22 | paveq | but as I know its possible to take only some things from testing too? |
| 17:21.36 | azeem | paveq: that's not supported that much |
| 17:21.43 | paveq | is backports official |
| 17:21.46 | azeem | and things quickly drag along quite some other stuff |
| 17:21.55 | azeem | paveq: it's almost-official |
| 17:22.03 | tanja | peoro, hm :$ whoops, no :) tnx...netinstall...and didnt do configure never :)= |
| 17:22.16 | sysforce | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.27 | peoro | eheh :P |
| 17:22.29 | paveq | azeem: btw amd64 here :) |
| 17:22.34 | chealer9 | !tell E-bola3 about u |
| 17:22.38 | azeem | paveq: does amd64 have testing? |
| 17:22.42 | azeem | I'd wait a bit then |
| 17:22.43 | paveq | its not supported officially I think :D |
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| 17:22.44 | chealer9 | E-bola3: which release do you run? |
| 17:22.58 | tanja | peoro, using sarge? :) |
| 17:23.00 | E-bola3 | sarge |
| 17:23.13 | paveq | azeem: is kde 3.5.2 in backports |
| 17:23.17 | paveq | can't check |
| 17:23.18 | azeem | I don't know |
| 17:23.21 | paveq | still on 80x24 |
| 17:23.22 | peoro | i'm using sid |
| 17:23.31 | chealer9 | E-bola3: dpkg doesn't have a log in sarge, so no unless you use aptitude |
| 17:23.36 | tanja | peoro, aha =) nice ;P |
| 17:23.41 | paveq | peoro: nice |
| 17:23.41 | streuner | paveq: you i-net access, why can't you check? |
| 17:23.46 | paveq | sid broke lvm once |
| 17:23.48 | paveq | wasn't fun |
| 17:23.59 | peoro | o,o |
| 17:24.00 | peoro | gh :P |
| 17:24.06 | streuner | paveq: have* |
| 17:24.07 | paveq | streuner: well no browser yet |
| 17:24.13 | paveq | I should install links |
| 17:24.16 | streuner | paveq: not lynx? |
| 17:24.18 | paveq | but it will pull some X stugg |
| 17:24.19 | paveq | *ff |
| 17:24.30 | paveq | I don't know how to use lynx |
| 17:24.39 | EdibleText | paveq, links w3m |
| 17:24.42 | streuner | paveq: lynx backports.org |
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| 17:25.02 | streuner | paveq: with the cursors you move to that what you want |
| 17:25.12 | paveq | nah |
| 17:25.17 | paveq | lynx is weird |
| 17:25.31 | streuner | ok, just use links then? ;-) |
| 17:25.44 | swhalen | debin install issues |
| 17:26.05 | swhalen | monitor says refresh too high |
| 17:26.21 | valdyn | swhalen: so set it lower |
| 17:26.25 | valdyn | !drxx swhalen |
| 17:26.26 | dpkg | swhalen: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 17:26.46 | streuner | http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/k/kdelibs/kdelibs-dbg_3.5.0-2bpo2_i386.deb |
| 17:26.55 | swhalen | i get the error after booting install cd |
| 17:26.56 | streuner | ^^^^: paveq |
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| 17:27.11 | streuner | paveq: so 3.5.0 |
| 17:27.17 | paveq | least links2 doesn't have xfree as depency anymore :) |
| 17:27.22 | valdyn | swhalen: which install cd? |
| 17:27.36 | nuxil | im trying to remove "change" the "Lock session" at the K menu at the kicker.. but i cant see it in kde menu editor.. where can i find its config..? i need to set it to xlock |
| 17:27.56 | swhalen | all the ones ive tried...this time net install |
| 17:28.09 | valdyn | swhalen: which one? |
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| 17:28.25 | ajaychahar | hello asi dont have a broadband connection can anyone mail me the DVD of Debian this is a request! |
| 17:28.29 | paveq | so backports actually work? without meshing up my system too much |
| 17:28.43 | streuner | paveq: sure |
| 17:28.56 | swhalen | i386 |
| 17:28.57 | ajaychahar | can anyone??? |
| 17:29.09 | ajaychahar | please guys! |
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| 17:29.11 | streuner | paveq: debian-developer made thoses packages... |
| 17:29.13 | paveq | streuner: but, I updated to testing already.. :/ |
| 17:29.13 | valdyn | ajaychahar: search vendors on google. not here |
| 17:29.20 | paveq | streuner: nice :) |
| 17:29.26 | nuxil | anyone? please help |
| 17:29.42 | valdyn | swhalen: paste the link |
| 17:29.42 | ajaychahar | just asking for help if anyone voluntarily can mail the dvd |
| 17:29.46 | paveq | streuner: duh, can I use backports with testing |
| 17:29.48 | EdibleText | nuxil, #KDE perhaps |
| 17:29.51 | azeem | ajaychahar: there are a lot of vendors selling DVDs |
| 17:29.54 | paveq | streuner: I think testing works for me |
| 17:30.04 | swhalen | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r1a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 17:30.10 | nuxil | EdibleText im already there.. but no reply on my Q |
| 17:30.12 | tttmt | hi, an off-topic question, know any IRC servers which allow nicks with spaces in them? I know RFC doesn't allow that... are there any irc servers that do not follow that? |
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| 17:30.20 | streuner | paveq: nope, backports.org is for stable only |
| 17:30.23 | azeem | ajaychahar: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
| 17:30.28 | paveq | ok |
| 17:30.33 | valdyn | swhalen: use a different monitor |
| 17:30.35 | paveq | guess I should re-install |
| 17:30.47 | azeem | reinstall? |
| 17:30.55 | tttmt | ajaychahar: where are you? |
| 17:30.56 | paveq | well I have testing now |
| 17:31.02 | azeem | so? |
| 17:31.07 | ajaychahar | India calcutta |
| 17:31.12 | paveq | its not stable |
| 17:31.13 | azeem | we told you to either use backports or testing |
| 17:31.21 | azeem | we told you that as well |
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| 17:31.26 | tttmt | ajaychahar: what do you want, I joined now... |
| 17:31.31 | azeem | you made a decision, you should stick to it |
| 17:31.35 | ajaychahar | Debian DVD |
| 17:31.52 | paveq | hmm |
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| 17:31.59 | tttmt | ajaychahar: contact/mail to ILUG-CAL, some one should help you out |
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| 17:33.35 | Lazone | Page with information! http://s13.bitefight.es/c.php?uid=35838 WORKS! |
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| 17:34.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Lazone is spamming (n=10341127@80-102-176-1.bcn1.adsl.uni2.es) |
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| 17:35.30 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 17:35.31 | dpkg | hmm... tetrinet is probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 17:36.51 | sambrista | hi! i don't know why but my terminal beep doesn't sound. Anyone knows how could it be? It used to sound but i don't know what could i do to switch it off. In my other kernel it sounds |
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| 17:38.21 | sambrista | any ideas?? |
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| 17:38.42 | valdyn | sambrista: modprobe pcspkr |
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| 17:39.36 | boguh | why do i get wrong keycodes with urxvt when i press F1? |
| 17:39.40 | Shadowcat | valdyn: I doubt he even included that in his kernel |
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| 17:40.35 | valdyn | Shadowcat: me too |
| 17:41.02 | Shadowcat | heh one of my first mistakes was not including keyboard+mouse support in the kernel |
| 17:41.11 | Shadowcat | I compiled them as modules and didn't include an initrd |
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| 17:41.43 | sambrista | valdyn: gee thanks!! I have no sound with this kernel and it was the only way i can get notified when someone speaks to me in gaim |
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| 17:42.12 | Shadowcat | sambrista: then maybe you should FIX your sound |
| 17:42.16 | osacix | hi |
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| 17:42.47 | osacix | i need help for instalation the CDSware |
| 17:42.48 | MarcoPau | since I recently reinstalled my debian etch the file system happens to be suddenly real-onlyfied sometimes. Do you guys know what that could be? |
| 17:42.50 | sambrista | Shadowcat: i tried but it simply doesn't work |
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| 17:42.58 | Shadowcat | sambrista: try harder :) |
| 17:43.11 | Shadowcat | MarcoPau: dying drive? |
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| 17:43.40 | MarcoPau | Shadowcat: huh? |
| 17:44.00 | sambrista | Shadowcat: I have two kernels, 2.4.27 or so and 2.6.15 . In 2.4.27 i type alsaconf and it works, but in 2.6.15 i type alsaconf and it says that it has found the correct card but later it doesn't sound |
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| 17:44.20 | Shadowcat | sambrista: upgrade alsa? |
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| 17:44.39 | osacix | ...? |
| 17:44.48 | sambrista | Shadowcat: how can i do it? The card is a isa cs4236 or so (old, legacy) |
| 17:45.05 | Shadowcat | you don't know how to upgrade alsa? |
| 17:45.55 | sambrista | Shadowcat: i tried : apt-get install alsa but it says that i've got the latest version |
| 17:46.05 | Shadowcat | did you try oss? |
| 17:46.15 | jamaica | is there a package that provides manpages for gtk functioncalls. so i can do somethink like man gtk_init |
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| 17:46.40 | sambrista | Shadowcat: i don't know how to use it. I've always used alsaconf with no problems (i'm a bit newbie) |
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| 17:47.06 | valdyn | jamaica: no, apt-cache search devhelp |
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| 17:48.01 | jamaica | thx |
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| 17:49.27 | jade | hi can you tell if port 25 is blocked from this iptables -L listing? my server is not receiving packets based on nmap. http://channels.debian.net/paste/2280 |
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| 17:50.13 | sambrista | Shadowcat: what do i have to do to use oss? |
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| 17:50.51 | RichiH | jade: you accept smtp |
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| 17:51.01 | me0w | !tru64 |
| 17:51.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, tru64 is a fast running *NIX OS for Alpha |
| 17:51.09 | RichiH | jade: try to telnet to it instead of nmap |
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| 17:51.33 | RichiH | jade: or at least nmap with tcp |
| 17:51.42 | RichiH | udp will not work |
| 17:51.48 | me0w | !ladybyte |
| 17:51.54 | me0w | uhohuhh |
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| 17:53.15 | dpkg | hmm... ne is the driver for ISA NE2000 compatible NICs, or neon, or short for "not equal", or l33t speak for "any" |
| 17:53.18 | me0w | !meow |
| 17:53.21 | me0w | !meow |
| 17:53.27 | me0w | MEEEOW |
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| 17:53.41 | me0w | !slackware |
| 17:53.41 | dpkg | from memory, slackware is a distribution made by Patrick. See ##slackware, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/slackware.jpg |
| 17:53.44 | Shadowcat | me0w: stop abusing the bot |
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| 17:55.15 | dani | hello |
| 17:55.16 | sysforce | Can i use AMD64 port and install packages from another repository that is not from AMD64... ? |
| 17:55.26 | valdyn | sysforce: no |
| 17:55.35 | jengelh | yes |
| 17:55.39 | jengelh | from x86 |
| 17:55.56 | valdyn | jengelh: no |
| 17:56.01 | jengelh | maybe not on debian, pah ;) |
| 17:56.07 | dani | first of all: sorry for my english, i'm french so I supoz i'll very bad mistakes |
| 17:56.22 | jengelh | but x86 binaries run fine on x64 |
| 17:56.34 | dani | you'll see very bad mistakes sorry |
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| 17:56.54 | dani | does anyone running debian on a laptop here? |
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| 17:57.03 | Shadowcat | !anyone |
| 17:57.04 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 17:57.11 | dvst | hi |
| 17:57.14 | dvst | i goty |
| 17:57.19 | shodanjr_gr | hey guys!!!! |
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| 17:57.35 | shodanjr_gr | anyone available for some issues i got with debian? |
| 17:57.40 | helix | !french |
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| 17:57.40 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 17:57.49 | dvst | i got a problem with debian-netinstall for sparc |
| 17:57.49 | jade | RichiH: tried nmapping already as follows http://channels.debian.net/paste/2281 |
| 17:57.50 | dani | ok, well I've got a pb with the status of my battery |
| 17:57.50 | dvst | sarge |
| 17:58.00 | jengelh | dvst: #debian-sparc |
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| 17:58.01 | helix | dani: ^^ if you have a very hard time speaking english you can go to #debian-fr |
| 17:58.13 | dvst | jengelh thanx |
| 17:58.15 | jengelh | np |
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| 17:58.23 | p3rti | hi |
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| 17:58.30 | sysforce | valdyn: yes ou no? |
| 17:58.31 | jnco | i vote debian number 1 for 2006 |
| 17:58.42 | p3rti | someone know a goof software tu make a personal blog? |
| 17:58.52 | p3rti | and Free Software |
| 17:58.54 | p3rti | :P |
| 17:59.07 | valdyn | sysforce: no |
| 17:59.11 | sysforce | jengelh: i want things like... Use enlightenment backport that i use today |
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| 17:59.56 | sysforce | valdyn: I cant use anyone app?? nothing? |
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| 18:00.01 | helix | sysforce: grab the source, rebuild it for amd64, and install it? |
| 18:00.07 | helix | the debian source I mean |
| 18:00.13 | p3rti | so? |
| 18:00.13 | helix | then you can build a native package |
| 18:00.19 | valdyn | sysforce: why do you even use the amd64 build ? |
| 18:00.22 | p3rti | nobody know's? |
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| 18:01.01 | sysforce | valdyn: im not using... im asking to see if i will or not use |
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| 18:01.29 | jade | RichiH, tcp port 25 connect nmap also reveals that it is closed http://channels.debian.net/paste/2282 |
| 18:01.52 | sysforce | helix: i can only use kernel compiled with amd64 flag if i use amd64 port right? |
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| 18:02.43 | valdyn | jade: a closed port is _not_ the result of your firewall that you showed us with iptables -L |
| 18:02.44 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 18:02.44 | dpkg | well, tetrinet is probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 18:02.51 | unstable | Who wants to play me in tetris? |
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| 18:03.28 | Sionide | !tetrinet |
| 18:03.29 | dpkg | hmm... tetrinet is probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 18:03.32 | Sionide | oh |
| 18:03.33 | Sionide | oops |
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| 18:04.30 | Sionide | unstable, ok |
| 18:04.30 | Sionide | lemme just install |
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| 18:06.02 | wols_ | jade: what does "netstat -anp |grep LIST|grep 25" say? |
| 18:07.02 | jade | wols_, pastebinning said 'listening' |
| 18:07.15 | petykooo | smtp server list? |
| 18:07.24 | jade | wols_, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2283 |
| 18:08.02 | jade | petykooo, sorry, don't follow? |
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| 18:08.22 | petykooo | hmmm? |
| 18:08.27 | petykooo | sorry |
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| 18:08.43 | unstable | petykooo: is a bot |
| 18:08.58 | unstable | It just says "hmmm?" then "sorry" |
| 18:09.35 | petykooo | ? |
| 18:09.44 | petykooo | bot |
| 18:09.45 | petykooo | lol |
| 18:09.49 | petykooo | im not a bot |
| 18:09.54 | unstable | !hu |
| 18:09.54 | dpkg | well, hu is Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t. |
| 18:10.06 | shodanjr_gr | hm... |
| 18:10.06 | shodanjr_gr | guys |
| 18:10.06 | shodanjr_gr | i think i fubared my installation |
| 18:10.07 | shodanjr_gr | anyone avaiolable for some help? |
| 18:10.07 | GoAuLd | no |
| 18:10.07 | honschu | How to detect this line by regexp? "FORMAT_03_STRING=xxx" regexp:"FORMAT_.._STRING=" |
| 18:10.07 | shodanjr_gr | ok |
| 18:10.07 | shodanjr_gr | :P |
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| 18:10.07 | shodanjr_gr | sniff sniff sob |
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| 18:10.08 | shodanjr_gr | actually i fubared X |
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| 18:10.25 | petykooo | ? |
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| 18:11.09 | macsim | I'm unable to load X with a kernel-2.6.16-1-486 it says : Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.8178, but |
| 18:11.09 | macsim | this X module is version 1.0.7174. Please be sure that your kernel |
| 18:11.09 | macsim | module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same driver version. |
| 18:11.13 | Sionide | unstable, it's not loading :s |
| 18:11.13 | macsim | how can I do ? |
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| 18:11.48 | Sionide | unstable, unless it's just really slow.. |
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| 18:12.23 | Sionide | unstable_, i can't gtetrinet to load :s |
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| 18:13.28 | petykooo | macsim: what's the problem? |
| 18:13.47 | macsim | petykooo, I'm unable to use the nvidia module for X |
| 18:13.57 | petykooo | debian ver? |
| 18:14.04 | macsim | petykooo, sid |
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| 18:14.39 | petykooo | hmm.. |
| 18:14.42 | petykooo | i use sarge |
| 18:14.59 | petykooo | i don't use the nvidia drivers in this distro |
| 18:15.00 | petykooo | but |
| 18:15.01 | koodlaty | does anyone use gentoo - the best linux distrubution? :D |
| 18:15.10 | petykooo | in another |
| 18:15.15 | petykooo | i used nvidia driver |
| 18:15.16 | petykooo | s |
| 18:15.17 | petykooo | all |
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| 18:15.24 | petykooo | from 7174 ot 81.. |
| 18:15.28 | petykooo | 81xx, |
| 18:15.45 | macsim | petykooo, I have to use the nvidia.com driver ? |
| 18:15.47 | petykooo | have you installed a 71 - series forcewrae, before the 81xx? |
| 18:16.18 | petykooo | maybe not |
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| 18:16.20 | petykooo | for debian |
| 18:16.26 | petykooo | there is an alternative way |
| 18:16.31 | Cicero_ | anyone here installed mailman on sarge ? i got an error from dpkg -> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mailman_2.1.5-8sarge1_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 18:16.32 | macsim | I was with each, I have installed nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-kernel with a 2.6.15 kernel |
| 18:16.39 | Cicero_ | anyone seen that before or knows how to fix that ? |
| 18:16.41 | petykooo | the standard nvidia installer won't work 4 me |
| 18:16.47 | macsim | petykooo, use m-a a-i nvidia |
| 18:17.05 | shodanjr_gr | i was wondering |
| 18:17.08 | petykooo | m-a, a-i? |
| 18:17.15 | shodanjr_gr | will the ATI installer from their site work on Debian? |
| 18:17.20 | macsim | petykooo, module-assistant auto-install nvidia |
| 18:17.21 | abrotman | !enter |
| 18:17.21 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 18:17.37 | macsim | petykooo, it's a contraction |
| 18:17.54 | petykooo | huh, im a bit weak in english, sorry... |
| 18:18.09 | zinx | shodanjr_gr: not well, unless you generate packages with it (use --buildpkg Debian/whatever, where whatever is your release, like stable/testing/unstable) |
| 18:18.11 | macsim | petykooo, me too ;) |
| 18:18.23 | zinx | shodanjr_gr: if you use the packages it works pretty well |
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| 18:18.31 | macsim | petykooo, for use module-assistant I hit m-a (a-i means auto-install) |
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| 18:19.06 | shodanjr_gr | zinx thx for the info. considering that i am relatively inexperienced, will you be able to guide me through the installation? |
| 18:19.08 | petykooo | mm, in debian, im weak too :)) |
| 18:19.12 | zinx | shodanjr_gr: probably not :/ |
| 18:19.19 | shodanjr_gr | my problem is that i cant get my laptop to work in 1024x768 resolution |
| 18:19.28 | macsim | petykooo, ok ;) thanks anyway ;) |
| 18:19.32 | shodanjr_gr | the screen gets all garbled up.... |
| 18:19.42 | petykooo | the 71 series drivers have some bugs... |
| 18:19.52 | shodanjr_gr | and going by the windows mentality for such cases, the first logical step would be to get better drivers :p |
| 18:20.09 | petykooo | they forget to delete 2 files, and of course, you cannot install a 74 or higher series driver |
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| 18:20.23 | petykooo | solution is: |
| 18:20.47 | petykooo | delete these 2 files: /dev/nvidia0 , and /dev/nvctl |
| 18:21.30 | shodanjr_gr | anyone got another possible solution for my problem? |
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| 18:22.06 | macsim | petykooo, a bit strong isn't it ? |
| 18:22.07 | shodanjr_gr | (the point is that Knoppix seemed to work fine in 1024x768...) |
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| 18:23.07 | petykooo | macsim: bit strong? |
| 18:23.09 | petykooo | maybe.... |
| 18:23.13 | petykooo | but |
| 18:23.26 | petykooo | nvidia don't know this.. :) |
| 18:23.37 | kloczek | hi, I' not Debian user but if someone can help me on bring package sizes for libgnomevfs2-common, libgnomevfs2-extra, libgnomevfs2-0 and libgnomevfs2-bin packages (?) |
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| 18:24.09 | kloczek | I need this for compare this with packages sizes from other distros |
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| 18:25.43 | daeos | when doing a chkrootkit .... it found eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient[973], /sbin/dhclient[6733]) |
| 18:25.49 | daeos | what does that mean? |
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| 18:26.24 | daeos | is that bad or good? |
| 18:26.29 | yperite | daeros |
| 18:26.36 | yperite | try zeppoo |
| 18:26.43 | yperite | www.zeppoo.net |
| 18:26.44 | daeos | zeppoo ? |
| 18:26.45 | paveq | whats Pin-Priority |
| 18:26.52 | jeeves_Moss | all: Any one able to help me get PHP running on an apache server? |
| 18:26.54 | yperite | it's better |
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| 18:28.00 | jeeves_Moss | all: debian, enabling PHP, any one? |
| 18:28.12 | daeos | explain as to "how" it is better and in what way |
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| 18:28.47 | petykooo | apt-get install php |
| 18:29.00 | yperite | daeos, zeppoo is the only one to loook on kmem |
| 18:29.02 | jeeves_Moss | petykoo: tried that allready. |
| 18:30.06 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: apt-get install php4 |
| 18:30.21 | jeeves_Moss | petykooo: Firefox keeps asking me if I want to open it with "then I get to browse", or save to disk |
| 18:30.22 | daeos | jeeves_Moss: when you install Apache php usually gets installed along with it. but just instll php4 with that Maulkin is telling you |
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| 18:30.30 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: I did that allready. |
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| 18:31.38 | jeeves_Moss | daeos: Tried that. Its only giving me issues with PHP files. I'm trying to get my stats pages to work, and PHPMyAdmin. |
| 18:31.58 | kingsley | Macromedia flash player 7 is evidently preventing audacity, play and bplay from using /dev/dsp. They report "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy". Suggestions? |
| 18:32.14 | yperite | daeos, try it and give me your opinion :) |
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| 18:32.25 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Well, what's the error? |
| 18:33.06 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: did you reload apache afterwards? |
| 18:33.07 | jeeves_Moss | when I go to the directory, it askes me if I'd like to browse for a program to open the PHPML file from http://localhost or if I want to save it. |
| 18:33.13 | shodanjr_gr | stupid question: how do i start gnome from the command prompt? |
| 18:33.20 | daeos | jeeves_Moss: when you open up a blank page one thats forbidden, what does it say at the bottom for "Apache" it should give you a line about php if php is enabled. |
| 18:33.21 | petykooo | gnome? |
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| 18:33.25 | shodanjr_gr | or kde |
| 18:33.31 | shodanjr_gr | cant recall which one is installed by defualt |
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| 18:33.44 | shodanjr_gr | something went wrong during reinstalltion and now the GUI doesnt start by defualt |
| 18:33.47 | shodanjr_gr | default even |
| 18:33.54 | petykooo | shodanjr_gr: with X? |
| 18:33.56 | Maulkin | shodanjr_gr: /etc/init.d/gdm (or kdm) start |
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| 18:34.03 | Maulkin | or possibly xdm :) |
| 18:34.36 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: I restarted apache, and its still asking me what program I want to run to open the PHPML file. |
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| 18:34.52 | jeeves_Moss | deaos: How would I go about opening a page thats forbidden? |
| 18:34.57 | mada | ok, this is a hardware related question but i don't know where else to go with it, would a (semi)budget amd athlon64 machine be better than a mac mini to run linux on? |
| 18:35.07 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Ok... have a look in /etc/apache/mime.types |
| 18:35.21 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: you should have a few lines which say application/x-httpd-php phtml pht php |
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| 18:35.28 | Maulkin | Or somethign similar. Do they? |
| 18:35.38 | petykooo | or |
| 18:35.47 | petykooo | if you have no X running |
| 18:35.50 | petykooo | startx |
| 18:35.53 | petykooo | from console |
| 18:36.15 | jeeves_Moss | Malkin: ok, what am I looking for? the lines are in there. Its almost like FireFox dosen't know what to do with the files. |
| 18:36.36 | Maulkin | That's because apache isn't serving them properly |
| 18:36.55 | jeeves_Moss | Malkin: ok, so how do I kick this program to make it serve them up corectly? |
| 18:37.06 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: I assume you want to use apache, right? |
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| 18:37.18 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: yep. Apache. |
| 18:37.25 | jeeves_Moss | I've got the corect root directory and everything. |
| 18:37.35 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: ok... cna you go to http://localhost/phpconfigvalue ? |
| 18:37.45 | Maulkin | That should give you a 'not found' page |
| 18:37.59 | Maulkin | Can you please pate the bottom line on that page |
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| 18:38.33 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: Apache/1.3.33 Server at localhost Port 80 |
| 18:38.38 | Maulkin | ok. |
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| 18:38.46 | Maulkin | now "apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 |
| 18:38.48 | Maulkin | " |
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| 18:39.38 | Maulkin | Now restart apache |
| 18:39.42 | shodanjr_gr | 3rd installation of Debian for today :p |
| 18:39.45 | shodanjr_gr | god i love linux! |
| 18:40.00 | Maulkin | If that doesn't work, please pastebin those s-httpd-php lines from your mime.types |
| 18:40.16 | jeeves_Moss | Mailkin: still, same thing. |
| 18:40.31 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: What did the apt-get say? |
| 18:40.48 | jeeves_Moss | it installed the mod corectly and configured everything with mo errors |
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| 18:41.46 | Maulkin | Did it say it was already installed? |
| 18:42.00 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: I rember having a problem simmiler to this when I installed Apache on another computer |
| 18:42.01 | treyh0 | i'm confused, if sarge has libc6 2.3.2 installed, why does /lib/libc.so.6 have GLIBC_2.3.3 and even 2.3.4 defined in it? |
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| 18:42.25 | zinx | maybe it doesn't really have libc6 2.3.2 installed |
| 18:42.37 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: no, it didden't say it was previously installed. so I installed it, then restarted Apache. |
| 18:42.53 | triller | -/usr/local/ssl/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8: no version information available (required by <<< anybody knowing what that means ? |
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| 18:43.06 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: do I also need to install anything for it to connect to a My SQL database? |
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| 18:43.16 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: yes, php4-mysql |
| 18:43.17 | digits | how do i best install the HTML:Entities cpan perl module? |
| 18:43.17 | treyh0 | apt-cache shows 2.3.2.ds1-22 |
| 18:43.22 | treyh0 | for libc6 |
| 18:43.35 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: but lets try and get it serving files first |
| 18:43.35 | Anthro | [OT] Is SourceForge CVS over SSH access down? |
| 18:43.56 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: any sudgestions? |
| 18:44.03 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Create a file: /var/www/test.php |
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| 18:44.15 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: I'm gettin' low on juice on the lappy. |
| 18:44.24 | Maulkin | put it in "<?php php_info(); ?>" |
| 18:44.26 | daeos | yperite: I don't even see a apt source on this website |
| 18:44.32 | Maulkin | Then go to http://localhost/test.php |
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| 18:44.37 | Maulkin | What do you get? |
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| 18:45.13 | zumbi | xgl |
| 18:45.27 | zumbi | !xgl |
| 18:45.28 | dpkg | methinks xgl is the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL and takes advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. It is designed to integrate well with the composite extension and performs best when a compositing manager is running.check http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease or ask me about "compiz" and "xgl-howto", or see http://getkororaa.com/ for a live-cd with xgl. It'll be in Debian after xorg 7.0 is in. |
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| 18:46.56 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: no idea. dosen't like that crap |
| 18:47.08 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: What does it say? |
| 18:47.19 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: php_info() in /home/webroot/test.php on line 1 |
| 18:47.29 | Maulkin | Rigth, it's serving php properly |
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| 18:48.06 | abrotman | that's a hard error to get |
| 18:48.10 | Den-Dens | Hi everyone |
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| 18:48.23 | abrotman | though .. perhaps he should try <? phpinfo(); ?> .. since php_info() isn't a valid function |
| 18:48.25 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: ok, quick, what do I need to do, my lappy is about to die in less than a min |
| 18:48.31 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: make sure the files you want to serve end in ".php" |
| 18:48.41 | Maulkin | abrotman: Doesn't matter, apache is serving php :) |
| 18:48.51 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: they are, and it still won't serve them. |
| 18:48.57 | daeos | abrotman: i had ran chkrootkit, and it found this: Checking `sniffer'... lo: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient[6733]) |
| 18:49.01 | daeos | eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient[973], /sbin/dhclient[6733]) |
| 18:49.05 | daeos | what does that mean, and is it bad? |
| 18:49.13 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: I think you need to go plug your laptop in and come back |
| 18:49.25 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: ok, back in like 15 |
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| 18:49.31 | gnufan | daeos: means you don't know enough to understabd chkroot -- and no it isn't bad |
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| 18:50.19 | Maulkin | daeos: I'd also suggest installing rkhunter |
| 18:50.20 | abrotman | daeos: read the stuff in /usr/share/doc/chkrootkit/* .. might be a false positive |
| 18:50.41 | Den-Dens | is it possible to mount a windows drive or an other type of drive with user rights. until now i have only been able to do it as root. |
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| 18:51.26 | andete | Den-Dens: one way is to make smbmnt suid |
| 18:52.03 | Maulkin | Den-Dens: yes, have a look at "-o" section of "man mount" |
| 18:52.12 | daeos | gnufan: im just worried, since my windows machine, after recovering it got blown to bits by 70 different trojans at one time as i was installing software off the net. |
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| 18:52.25 | Den-Dens | ok thanks maulkin and andete |
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| 18:54.41 | Maulkin | Den-Dens: No problems |
| 18:54.47 | tombs | hi all |
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| 18:55.08 | daryl- | The home key, end key, etc., fails to work on a remote box. Any ideas how I can fix this? |
| 18:55.15 | daryl- | It works to other boxes, so it must be something on the one box. |
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| 18:55.50 | treyh0 | awww man, i did apt-get source libc6, and there are some debian packages that apply some fixes/features from glibc 2.3.3, no wonder. :-( |
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| 18:56.57 | Devasssss | is there some fix to dosemu bug? |
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| 18:57.11 | Devasssss | exception caused blabla.. 0xffffff8e |
| 18:57.51 | abrotman | check the bts |
| 18:57.59 | abrotman | Devasssss: on debian? |
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| 18:58.16 | Devasssss | abrotman yes, debian sarge |
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| 18:58.25 | abrotman | did you check the bts? |
| 18:59.03 | blondie | mew |
| 18:59.35 | Eclipser | mmh |
| 18:59.36 | abrotman | cat? |
| 18:59.42 | blondie | yes |
| 18:59.43 | Maulkin | dog |
| 18:59.50 | blondie | I am a pussy cat |
| 18:59.53 | zumbi | what language is more suitable to program GUIs for Debian ? (gtk, qt, fltk, ...) and what are useful tools to program that GUI? |
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| 19:00.29 | abrotman | zumbi: that's up to you .. there is also Wx and GNUStep |
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| 19:00.41 | blondie | java!!! |
| 19:00.55 | Devasssss | abrotman whats bts? |
| 19:00.55 | blondie | and vim |
| 19:01.13 | Maulkin | !bts |
| 19:01.13 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 19:01.56 | zumbi | abrotman: i have never done such a thing, i have a problem on where should i start |
| 19:02.03 | blondie | Maulkin = macauly caulkin? |
| 19:02.18 | TuxAtWork | hi, I'm trying to install a Sarge r1a with a netinst cd |
| 19:02.28 | TuxAtWork | the problem is that I can't mount the cdrom |
| 19:02.28 | Maulkin | blondie: Erm... no |
| 19:02.40 | blondie | oh |
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| 19:02.50 | blondie | he's cute |
| 19:02.52 | killoff | algun español? |
| 19:02.56 | Maulkin | !es |
| 19:02.57 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 19:03.20 | DevilChaos | having trouble with my sound again the module doesnt load properly this is the pci address and name from lsipci i have done 0000:00:1d.0 0403: ALi Corporation High Definition Audio/AC'97 Host Controller and the module it gives me for it is alc880 and im getting nothing |
| 19:03.50 | DevilChaos | done alsaconf |
| 19:04.10 | abrotman | zumbi: do you use gnome or kde or something else? |
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| 19:04.24 | DevilChaos | and put volume up in mixers and still nothing anyone got a clue? |
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| 19:06.17 | zumbi | abrotman: something else.. xfce4 |
| 19:06.28 | Maulkin | blondie: Well, *I* don't think I look like him :) Judge for youself: http://photos.jml.net/p26524636.html |
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| 19:07.53 | blondie | Maulkin: hmm! |
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| 19:08.26 | DevilChaos | !sound |
| 19:08.26 | dpkg | hmm... sound is ask me about <alsa-bork>, <alsa for morons>, <ac97>, <audio>, <dmix>, <esound> and <arts>. For sarge go to http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
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| 19:10.07 | Bone | help |
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| 19:10.19 | Maulkin | Bone: how |
| 19:10.20 | Bone | cd-rw drive not being reconized |
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| 19:10.57 | estavaded | Hi guys, I try to run 'tvtime' in an ssh connection, but when i do that i receive an error 'xcommon: No DISPLAY set, so no output possible!'. What's the problem? |
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| 19:11.19 | Eulex | estavaded, that it's designed to run inside X? |
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| 19:12.01 | boxy | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.09 | triller | ./usr/local/ssl/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8: no version information available (required by <<< anybody knowing, whats that ? |
| 19:12.12 | _wendell | How can I load a module in another directory with modprobe? |
| 19:12.18 | _wendell | (if it's not in /lib/modules) |
| 19:12.23 | estavaded | Eulex: I have x running on the both machines here. I was hope that i could see TV here from distance. Is that not possible? |
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| 19:13.24 | abrotman | zumbi: so try your hand at GTK .. gtk.org |
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| 19:14.31 | ouznext | estavaded: have you tried ssh -X (to have X11 exported)? |
| 19:14.38 | zumbi | _wendell: insmod? |
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| 19:15.01 | Eulex | estavaded, not really, if you don't use something like vnc. I haven't played with X forwarding over ssh or just connecting to the x session on that machine, but I don't think that would work |
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| 19:15.30 | common_ | hey |
| 19:15.40 | estavaded | ouznext: Yes, i have try it, then i receive another one error :-/ |
| 19:15.44 | common_ | I've got problem with libcairo2-dev package... |
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| 19:15.50 | ouznext | :o |
| 19:15.56 | abrotman | !tell UncleSkunk about root |
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| 19:16.19 | abrotman | common_: and? |
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| 19:17.28 | _wendell | zumbi: Aha, thanks :-) |
| 19:17.29 | estavaded | ouznext: If i try it with the -X 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).' |
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| 19:17.41 | common_ | I'm using Dapper Ubuntu |
| 19:18.10 | estavaded | common_: Try #ubuntu ?? |
| 19:18.13 | Benix | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.23 | common_ | right |
| 19:18.58 | common_ | but is it possibile that older version of package is required but the repo only has the newer one? |
| 19:19.07 | abrotman | common_: please go to #ubuntu |
| 19:19.29 | estavaded | common_: Whe not know here about it, so whe can not help you, |
| 19:19.37 | abrotman | We |
| 19:19.54 | estavaded | common_: Here you're loose you're time; you're on the wrong place for that! |
| 19:20.04 | common_ | right, thank you |
| 19:20.04 | estavaded | oeps ^ |
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| 19:20.18 | abrotman | estavaded: lose :) |
| 19:20.22 | abrotman | in the wrong place |
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| 19:21.11 | estavaded | abrotman: I find it very nice that you correct me, so i learn more, no i give you beer ;-) |
| 19:21.25 | abrotman | belgian beer!?! |
| 19:21.35 | jjazz_ | Anybody have a recommended way to serve network audio in Debian? I want to run xine on comuter A, send the audio output from xine to Computer B, and have Computer B play the audio. |
| 19:21.42 | abrotman | jjazz_: wait .. don't go anywhere! |
| 19:21.46 | estavaded | abrotman: How you know im Belgian? |
| 19:21.47 | abrotman | jjazz_: and yes you can |
| 19:22.01 | d0uglas | if you're interested in audio, you should not be running debian |
| 19:22.03 | abrotman | estavaded: uhm .. /whois |
| 19:22.05 | Eulex | estavaded, "!beer abrotman" -- that's how you do it :) |
| 19:22.08 | abrotman | d0uglas: my audio work sfine |
| 19:22.17 | abrotman | jjazz_: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/46897 |
| 19:22.20 | estavaded | !beer abrotman |
| 19:22.23 | estavaded | :-) |
| 19:22.45 | Benix | dpkg knows german beer? ;) |
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| 19:23.01 | abrotman | jjazz: mas-server ? |
| 19:23.03 | jjazz | abrotman: Ya, I saw that... it's unfortunately too true. |
| 19:23.11 | abrotman | jjazz: i thought it was funny |
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| 19:23.51 | jjazz | Funny and true. Poor JD. Not only does he have to perform, he sure as hell better beat Crisp. |
| 19:24.11 | abrotman | jjazz: they'll let it slide when is shoulder falls apart :) |
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| 19:24.14 | kingmike | Hi. I have a laptop with an internal monitor that died yesterday. So I bought an external LCD but my computer still uses the internal panel resolution. How to solve this ? |
| 19:24.20 | UncleSkunk | ok not in Root heh. so I was going to ask what I use to open files like .conf to edit. (wile in terminal. er command mode) |
| 19:24.23 | rage_ | Hey, I just compiled a new kernel, and the machine's panicing on boot.... complaining about 'devfs' being an unknown FS type... I'm not seeing it in menuconfig, anyone got a hint to push me in the right direction? |
| 19:24.51 | abrotman | kingmike: did you try the special button that switches? |
| 19:25.11 | Benix | rage_: did you use make-kpkg to compile your kernel? |
| 19:25.21 | jjazz | abrotman: We'll see. I have some doubts about him performing at 110% over a full season, but if he takes it easy once in a while, he might last a couple years. |
| 19:25.22 | rage_ | Benix: yes |
| 19:25.28 | Benix | Kernel[Linux 2.6.17-rc1-benix-1 i686] |
| 19:25.33 | abrotman | jjazz: maybe 85% ? :) |
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| 19:26.07 | Benix | rage_: complied today ;). Well, maybe your grub/lilo entry is wrong? |
| 19:26.34 | abrotman | jjazz: how about NAS for network audio ? |
| 19:26.34 | rage_ | Benix: hmm, what in grub would cause devfs to not be recognised? |
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| 19:26.37 | rage_ | it's identical to the other 3 entries |
| 19:26.38 | abrotman | jjazz: or mpd |
| 19:26.41 | Benix | rage_: hmm |
| 19:26.44 | jjazz | abrotman: NAS has no documentation. |
| 19:26.48 | abrotman | hrm .. ok |
| 19:27.10 | jengelh | rage_: Nothing. Grub does not have anything to do with devfs. |
| 19:27.21 | jengelh | devfs=nomount or so... |
| 19:27.22 | jjazz | abrotman: It's also a defunct project AFAICT. |
| 19:27.29 | abrotman | mpd ? or nas? |
| 19:27.32 | jjazz | nas |
| 19:27.35 | abrotman | oh |
| 19:27.41 | abrotman | . |
| 19:27.44 | rage_ | hmm |
| 19:27.46 | kingmike | abrotman : yes, I get an image, but I want a higher resolution |
| 19:27.51 | Benix | rage_: I rember that make-oldconfig asked me something abozt devfs today .. hm |
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| 19:28.07 | rage_ | this is strange, all I did, was turn on pre-emption in the kernel |
| 19:28.09 | jjazz | abrotman: I was intrigued by polypaudio, but the Debian package is no longer in the repo. |
| 19:28.27 | abrotman | bastards! |
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| 19:28.41 | jjazz | abrotman: When packages are removed, is there any way to find out a reason why? |
| 19:28.43 | abrotman | kingmike: you may have to reconfigure X |
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| 19:28.47 | abrotman | !drxx kingmike |
| 19:28.47 | dpkg | kingmike: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 19:29.13 | kingmike | abrotman : that's what I'm trying to do for two hours now |
| 19:29.19 | abrotman | jjazz: not that i'm aware .. but if there were only a DD here we could ask ... |
| 19:29.25 | rage_ | brb, gonna go again from scratch at my kernel.... |
| 19:29.29 | abrotman | kingmike: pick only one resolution |
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| 19:30.03 | kingmike | abrotman : thanks, i'll try |
| 19:30.03 | paveq | I can't find new kdm in backports |
| 19:30.07 | paveq | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.14 | paveq | Inst kdm (4:3.3.2-1sarge1 Debian-Security:3.1/stable) |
| 19:30.16 | paveq | :( |
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| 19:30.27 | paveq | 3.5 should be there |
| 19:30.33 | DaDave | how can i configure the Outgoing IP Address of Postfix? |
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| 19:30.58 | jshriver | greetings, can anyone help me setup a hauppauge card? I have it all working except sound |
| 19:31.27 | loxley_ | DaDave: you mean relayhost? |
| 19:31.44 | aatcman | Hi |
| 19:31.57 | aatcman | i have debian working on a power pc |
| 19:32.12 | aatcman | and I was wondering how I get it to no longer require a boot disk |
| 19:32.48 | aatcman | :o) |
| 19:32.56 | abrotman | !ppc |
| 19:32.56 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ppc is is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc and/or #debian-ppc |
| 19:33.25 | aatcman | thanks |
| 19:35.21 | mbishop | heh |
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| 19:42.46 | paveq | is there 64 bit backports? |
| 19:43.00 | paveq | firefox seg faults |
| 19:43.24 | paveq | installed 32 bit version.. |
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| 19:43.34 | paveq | maybe it doesn't work |
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| 19:44.12 | Michael__ | heloo |
| 19:44.12 | OliverKlozoff | 250 OliverKlozoff |
| 19:44.16 | Michael__ | hola |
| 19:44.23 | Michael__ | quietorrrr |
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| 19:44.35 | Michael__ | ere un pecador de la pradera |
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| 19:44.40 | Michael__ | cuidadin |
| 19:44.41 | estavaded | !es |
| 19:44.42 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:44.47 | DevilChaos | when is etch rumoured to go stable? |
| 19:44.53 | Michael__ | ok |
| 19:45.01 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 19:45.01 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 19:45.25 | estavaded | hhhhmmm popcorn with my movie :-) |
| 19:45.27 | ferris_ | i just installed a new copy of Debian (stable) and when the system starts I get a black screen with a login prompt. After I login to the system I cannot go any further. There is no desktop environment just command line. So when I startx I get a fatal error 104 connection reset by peer tty1. How can I start this machine into the gui? |
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| 19:45.35 | _wendell | How do I mount a device with read/write privs? |
| 19:45.36 | estavaded | :-/ |
| 19:45.45 | abrotman | ferris_: do you want gnome or kde or something else? |
| 19:45.54 | abrotman | _wendell: depends on the device |
| 19:46.05 | _wendell | abrotman: scsi ext3 device |
| 19:46.11 | _wendell | abrotman: Also SCSI hfsplus device |
| 19:46.25 | ferris_ | kde would be fine |
| 19:46.27 | abrotman | dunno about hfs .. but ext3 should be pretty simple .. much like a normal parittion |
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| 19:46.35 | jjazz | abrotman: I was mistaken about nas being defunct. There appears to be activity, both on the dev and user sides. |
| 19:46.37 | abrotman | ferris_: apt-get install kde kdm x-window-system-core |
| 19:46.47 | abrotman | jjazz: yay! .. but does that help you ? |
| 19:47.18 | jjazz | abrotman: Well, it does what I want. There's no documentation, but there's a mailing list, so I guess I'll give it a try. It's the least worst option. |
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| 19:47.33 | smacnay | is ogle not working in testing right now? I am using Xorg, latest .deb nvidia driver (mplayer is working fine), and notice that sound works, a window pops up, but no picture. |
| 19:47.52 | abrotman | jjazz: mpd is no good ? |
| 19:47.55 | jjazz | I was hoping for something more turn-key, but I guess this is still a new idea. |
| 19:48.01 | tarzeau | abrotman: briquolo is in new queue :) |
| 19:48.05 | abrotman | you lie! |
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| 19:48.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: go look |
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| 19:48.36 | abrotman | tarzeau: you have a lot of .app :) |
| 19:48.57 | tarzeau | abrotman: they are great. tried the latest Cynthiune.app ? |
| 19:49.01 | tarzeau | abrotman: or Cenon.app ? |
| 19:49.02 | pigman | hello all |
| 19:49.07 | abrotman | tarzeau: what does the "*" mean ? |
| 19:49.12 | tarzeau | my all tiem fave are TimeMon.app and Terminal.app |
| 19:49.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: where? |
| 19:49.19 | jjazz | abrotman: I believe mpd is for allowing local control of a media player on a foreign computer. I want to have the player local and the audio data streamed to a foreign computer. |
| 19:49.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: * means Star. I AM THE STAR! :) |
| 19:49.33 | abrotman | jjazz: icecast? |
| 19:49.36 | abrotman | tarzeau: erm .. ok |
| 19:49.53 | tarzeau | abrotman: which star do you mean? |
| 19:50.01 | jjazz | abrotman: It's not a sound server-- it will play mp3s, but you can't, say, tell xine to send output through it. |
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| 19:50.07 | abrotman | tarzeau: after some of the package names |
| 19:50.12 | abrotman | jjazz: ah ok .. |
| 19:50.22 | tarzeau | abrotman: it has co-maintainers |
| 19:50.24 | abrotman | tarzeau: like supertux |
| 19:50.25 | abrotman | tarzeau: ah ok |
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| 19:50.28 | Bone | whre is k-god, he can help me with my cd-rw driveprob i believe |
| 19:50.56 | abrotman | or you could ask other people .. karsten is probably at work |
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| 19:54.08 | fmasi | how do i make mysql acept internet requests it is only responding localy |
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| 19:54.34 | zenwryly | I use ratpoison. What's the best way to launch an X app as root? |
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| 19:55.01 | asg | fmasi: edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and comment the 'bind-address' parameter |
| 19:55.05 | Estes2 | Hi ! I'm trying to know recursively the number of lines of code (al files included) a directory contains... Anyone please ? |
| 19:55.13 | asg | zenwryly: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 19:55.15 | jjazz | fmasi: and check your firewall |
| 19:55.28 | estavaded | fmasi: By configure it :-/ i guess, phpmyadmin can help you for exmple |
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| 19:55.35 | _wendell | Anyone know how to make hfsplus volumes read/write? |
| 19:55.40 | _wendell | Using standard mount tools... |
| 19:55.42 | jjazz | Estes2: I would guess you want a combination of find and wc. They both have man pages. |
| 19:55.43 | fmasi | asg i did that but then it says ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| 19:55.59 | Estes2 | yes, find i forgot this one |
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| 19:56.17 | asg | fmasi: did you restart mysql afterwards? |
| 19:56.25 | Estes2 | i was like searching something like for i in $PWD cat $i | wc -l |
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| 19:56.29 | Estes2 | ok, ty |
| 19:56.34 | edmundo__ | hello |
| 19:56.51 | fmasi | asg bind adres iss alredy comented but ther is skip-networking that i comented too and restarted mysql and got that error |
| 19:57.18 | asg | fmasi: what version of Debian are you running? |
| 19:57.30 | jjazz | Estes2: btw, you don't need cat there... wc can take a filename on the command line |
| 19:57.31 | fmasi | sarge |
| 19:57.37 | paolob | Hi guys! Does debian's xorg have the damage extensions working? I have a problem with vino-server eating all cpu time |
| 19:57.45 | Estes2 | hum, ok |
| 19:57.49 | asg | fmasi: you didn't comment out the socket line did you? |
| 19:57.54 | Estes2 | well, i'll go to find anyways |
| 19:57.57 | Estes2 | thanks jjazz |
| 19:58.00 | jjazz | np |
| 19:58.00 | pitillo | fmasi, did you try to paste that error in google? |
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| 19:58.06 | fmasi | asg let me check that |
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| 19:59.02 | edmundo__ | can anyone answer me if there's any possibility to a package in unstable never hits testing? |
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| 19:59.32 | fmasi | asg the soket line is ok i can conect via 127.0.0.1 but not via net |
| 19:59.38 | mo1991 | what packages do I need to decompress a .uha file? |
| 19:59.47 | zenwryly | asg: thanks |
| 19:59.52 | mo1991 | can't seem to find a uha compression/de program |
| 20:00.13 | fmasi | and i get exacly the same erro whith the skip-networking or #skip-networking |
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| 20:00.27 | fmasi | asg i using mysql5 |
| 20:01.05 | asg | fmasi: oh, then that must be a backport. I'm not sure on v5 since sarge only has v4. Something might have changed but I don't know what it is. |
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| 20:01.44 | fmasi | ok thx I use 5 becouse the dam bitch of the php programer only whants 5 |
| 20:02.07 | fmasi | asg I am starting to hate thin php programer |
| 20:02.27 | asg | fmasi: I'd inquire whether they have a compelling reason to use 5 or they do so only because they don't know any better. |
| 20:02.43 | abrotman | fmasi: tell him to use pgsql .. like smart people do |
| 20:02.58 | asg | abrotman: or sqlite |
| 20:03.02 | abrotman | asg: because even mysql5 has fewer features than pgsql6 :) |
| 20:03.03 | fmasi | abrotman god one |
| 20:03.10 | asg | abrotman: indeed |
| 20:03.40 | asg | abrotman: but do you honestly expect most php programmers to do anything with that functionality ;) |
| 20:03.49 | abrotman | asg: i have |
| 20:03.59 | abrotman | asg: yeah .. subselects aren't important :) |
| 20:04.10 | asg | abrotman: I know you have :) |
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| 20:04.37 | asg | abrotman: subselects are for lazy people that can't use joins properly :p |
| 20:04.42 | abrotman | asg: not quite |
| 20:04.57 | mo1991 | uharc (ie .uha files) what program opens these archives? |
| 20:05.03 | asg | abrotman: true though the way people generally use subselects |
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| 20:05.13 | asg | mo1991: arc iirc |
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| 20:05.23 | asg | !info arc |
| 20:05.29 | dpkg | arc: (Archive utility based on the MSDOS ARC program), section utils, is optional. Version: 5.21m-1 (sid), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 136 kB |
| 20:05.30 | endeavormac | if I switch to the testing packages, should I Just automatically assume everything will stop working? |
| 20:05.39 | zood_ | Is it possible to backup my laptop in such a way that if it were stolen/lost I could simply install the entire backup to an identical laptop and have it be immediately bootable? |
| 20:05.42 | abrotman | asg: i find them useful in conjunction with NOT IN |
| 20:05.49 | asg | abrotman: agreed |
| 20:05.59 | abrotman | asg: and that's most of how i use them |
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| 20:06.10 | asg | zood_: look at bootcd as a possible option |
| 20:06.31 | asg | zood_: there are other backup systems that do similar things also |
| 20:06.59 | abrotman | there's a systemimager package too |
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| 20:17.39 | GoAuLd | i have my nipples hard |
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| 20:18.07 | simonrvn | and? are we supposed to be impressed or something? |
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| 20:18.42 | cr3 | is there a way to run two window managers at the same time? |
| 20:18.45 | GoAuLd | i expected some answer, i am a little bored |
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| 20:19.07 | DaDave | sorry, went away. |
| 20:19.25 | cat | cr3: yes you could |
| 20:19.48 | asg | cr3: easily, just run 2 X servers |
| 20:19.53 | DaDave | So my question again: I have a postfix running. And it is sending mails to other servers fine, but with the wrong IP-Address. How can i configure that it uses a certain Ip-Address for sending emails to other servers? |
| 20:20.23 | Kyral | sounds like a DNS problem... |
| 20:20.36 | asg | cr3: or look at Xnest |
| 20:20.42 | aphexer | what can I do to investigate these errors? dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) and E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) ? |
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| 20:23.18 | simonrvn | poke your finger at it until it explodes |
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| 20:24.13 | asg | finger error@localhost && explode |
| 20:24.25 | simonrvn | heheh |
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| 20:25.32 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 20:25.33 | dpkg | <kingsley> OK, there are just a few things that I'd rather do before I resort to using 2.6: I'd rather get a vasectomy with a weed whacker, an enema with a garden hose, slam my nose in a car door, have a proctologist named Dr. Hook and watch Roseann Barr do a strip-tease. |
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| 20:26.16 | sl | <spazdor> how do you get a Cisco Certified Network Administrator off your porch? |
| 20:26.17 | sl | <cnug> ...? |
| 20:26.18 | sl | <spazdor> pay for your pizza |
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| 20:27.04 | asg | sl: thought that was for MCSEs |
| 20:27.33 | asg | sl: thought the CCNA was accepting the copy of the Watchtower |
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| 20:29.21 | zcero | j/ #LiPi |
| 20:29.32 | WireDDD | sl: you ask him if he has time to setup your linksys wireless router |
| 20:29.33 | asg | erm, no |
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| 20:36.36 | rebooted | c que j'suis con :) |
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| 20:40.56 | jayeola | refering to `free -m`, what is the purposes of "cached ram"? |
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| 20:41.44 | potstickr | I'm running testing/unstable debian x86, gnome, and I've lost the panel and launchers in my gnome session. How to restore or reset them? |
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| 20:42.02 | potstickr | I can only ctrl-alt-backspace to restart gdm. |
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| 20:42.43 | tarzeau | hehe |
| 20:43.04 | tarzeau | potstickr: how many days are you using gnome/gdm since? |
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| 20:43.22 | potstickr | tarzeau: Since... what? |
| 20:43.27 | tarzeau | potstickr: since when |
| 20:43.42 | tarzeau | potstickr: isn't this the nth time that you have problems again with this gnome? |
| 20:43.44 | Neverther | potstickr, remove your gnome-configurations |
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| 20:43.52 | potstickr | tarzeau: How long have I been using gnome/gdm, in my life? Six years I guess. |
| 20:43.55 | tarzeau | Neverther: s,-configurations,, ? |
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| 20:44.07 | tarzeau | potstickr: and this is the first time you have a problem with it? |
| 20:44.07 | opc0de | anyone here set up software RAID? |
| 20:44.13 | potstickr | Neverther: You mean something like 'rm -rf ~/.gnome*'? |
| 20:44.16 | tarzeau | opc0de: most probably |
| 20:44.21 | jayeola | fluxbox! |
| 20:44.23 | Neverther | i mean rm -rf ~/.gnome* |
| 20:44.40 | potstickr | tarzeau: This is not the first time I've had this problem. In the past I've had to rm -rf ~/.gnome*, but it seems drastic, so asking here first. |
| 20:44.47 | opc0de | tarzeau: have you? I'm syncing two 160 gig drives, says it's gonna take 27 hours.. is that normal? |
| 20:44.57 | tarzeau | opc0de: it's a bit much |
| 20:45.06 | Neverther | and rn ~/.gtkrc.gnome if there is one ;p |
| 20:45.09 | tarzeau | opc0de: i've synced 2 TB in like 40 hours |
| 20:45.12 | Neverther | rm* |
| 20:45.12 | opc0de | and I've heard when your system crashes, the disks have to resync.. how long does a resync take? will it always take 27 hours, or only the initial sync? |
| 20:45.17 | tarzeau | opc0de: yes 160gigs in 27 is slow |
| 20:45.32 | tarzeau | opc0de: syncing over what? ide/ide? scsi? network? what network? |
| 20:45.33 | potstickr | Neverther: OK, will try. It's worked before, just thought there might be a more elegant way. Thanks. And will look for/remove .gtkrc.gnome as well. |
| 20:45.41 | opc0de | tarzeau: ide on separate channels |
| 20:45.42 | tarzeau | opc0de: oh software raid... |
| 20:45.50 | opc0de | tarzeau: you're talking 'bout hardware eh |
| 20:45.53 | tarzeau | opc0de: don't worry, all will go good |
| 20:45.56 | opc0de | I was thinking of getting a 3ware card |
| 20:45.58 | tarzeau | opc0de: why are you so pessimist? |
| 20:46.07 | tarzeau | opc0de: we've got also 3ware and icp... |
| 20:46.20 | Xteven | speaking of RAID, does anyone know of an alternative to DRBD ? |
| 20:46.31 | opc0de | tarzeau: not pessimistic, just trying to understand what type of wait to expect when a drive crashes |
| 20:46.42 | tarzeau | opc0de: yes that's about a good estimate |
| 20:46.55 | tarzeau | opc0de: what uhm data do you have on it? |
| 20:47.09 | opc0de | tarzeau: when the machine crashes, I understand the drives need to resync, will it be a full resync, or a partial one? ie will it take 27 hours? |
| 20:47.17 | tarzeau | opc0de: i don't know |
| 20:47.18 | opc0de | tarzeau: voicmail files for an asterisk pbx phone system |
| 20:47.28 | tarzeau | opc0de: oh i don't want a copy of that ;) |
| 20:47.32 | potstickr | Neverther: Still the same thing: Desktop with icons, but no panels, no launcher, no way to start an xterm or any other app. |
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| 20:47.51 | tarzeau | potstickr: did you also rm -rf gconf and pkill -9 all gconf? |
| 20:48.00 | potstickr | Neverther: Removed .gnome*, .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2 |
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| 20:48.09 | potstickr | tarzeau: No, I'll try that. |
| 20:48.10 | tarzeau | potstickr: also remove gconf, and killall -9 gconf |
| 20:48.12 | Neverther | potstickr, trying startx from console (install openbox and pit it into .xinitrc |
| 20:48.18 | tarzeau | potstickr: and then there's #gnome on irc.gnome.org |
| 20:48.23 | Neverther | put* |
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| 20:48.37 | tarzeau | potstickr: did you ever had the idea to forget gnome? and look what else is there? |
| 20:48.45 | potstickr | tarzeau: Earlier, I'd tried 'mv .gconf .gconf-backup' and 'mv .gconfd .gconfd-backup' and restarted gdm. |
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| 20:48.55 | potstickr | tarzeau: I.e. kde? |
| 20:49.01 | tarzeau | potstickr: that doesn't help. because gconf also is a process in memory |
| 20:49.04 | tarzeau | and it fucks up everything |
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| 20:49.13 | tarzeau | it needs to be shot with a blessed +5 silver arrow |
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| 20:49.17 | Neverther | potstickr, openbox here :p |
| 20:49.22 | tarzeau | potstickr: no, not kde either |
| 20:49.29 | tarzeau | wmaker/gnustep :) |
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| 20:52.15 | VolVE | hey all, so when I rebooted yesterday I got a whole slew of XFS unreadable errors and the system didn't make it to a login prompt. Currently I'm running badblocks from a grml live cd on the hd in question, but was wondering if anyone could tell me how to have Sarge skip the XFS checks and let me get into the system? |
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| 20:52.38 | zinx | VolVE: you can't. |
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| 20:52.52 | zinx | VolVE: if it's getting errors, it probably can't read the files needed to boot the system... |
| 20:53.21 | VolVE | zinx: hmm, well it's not one of the primary boot drives, it's just part of an LVM with some file-server data on |
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| 20:53.58 | zinx | take it out of the fstab/whatever lvm uses, then |
| 20:54.08 | m0rtix | Hi, i have a problem with the curl command, if i want to download all files in a directory, what do i must use for have the same comportment of * (into linux) ? |
| 20:54.09 | VolVE | the hd in question is hdj, and the only thing hdj was assignd to was the LVM for the file-server, so I'm sure there are errors, but I was hoping to skip the check and run them manually while the system was responding to other requests |
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| 20:54.22 | zinx | it's curious that it won't boot with it there though, just 'cause of some filesystem errors |
| 20:54.28 | VolVE | zinx: ok, fstab was my next choice, just wanted to check, thank |
| 20:54.30 | abrotman | VolVE: change it to not mount on boot .. |
| 20:54.41 | abrotman | VolVE: once it's up .. fix the FS |
| 20:54.46 | VolVE | abrotman: so removing it from the fstab, yaeh? |
| 20:55.28 | tarzeau | !mount abrotman |
| 20:55.29 | PSG|Tartiflette | hi all |
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| 20:55.50 | PSG|Tartiflette | i have " Client not found in Kerberos database while getting initial credentials " when i press "kinit" , somebody could help me ? |
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| 20:57.19 | m0rtix | Some people who know "curl" ? |
| 20:57.34 | ThomK | Can anyone tell me where to get more information on this error (aside from #apache)? Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_proxy_connect.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_proxy_connect.so: undefined symbol: ap_proxyerror |
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| 20:58.55 | madclicker | looking for a web-based DNS managment software with ACL support |
| 20:59.13 | tarzeau | is firefox nuts? |
| 20:59.14 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : did you create the credentials ? |
| 20:59.21 | tarzeau | how can i tell firefox to reload favicon.ico ? |
| 20:59.41 | PSG|Tartiflette | euh, i am noob in linux, and i follow a tutorial here http://www.bayour.com/LDAPv3-HOWTO.html |
| 20:59.53 | PSG|Tartiflette | i don't think i create credentials |
| 20:59.57 | Xteven | ok, I'll take a look |
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| 21:00.20 | tarzeau | ah got it |
| 21:00.29 | splattnik | could someone give me a good explenation on what a session leader is? |
| 21:00.42 | jplibre | where is the current lm-sensors project homepage? |
| 21:00.43 | PSG|Tartiflette | thanks Xteven |
| 21:00.44 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : hmm, you are trying to setup ldap or kerberos ? |
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| 21:01.00 | PSG|Tartiflette | i want setup kerberos sasl then openldap |
| 21:01.08 | PSG|Tartiflette | for this moment i just install kerberos and sasl |
| 21:01.15 | PSG|Tartiflette | and when i want to try if it's work |
| 21:01.24 | PSG|Tartiflette | i press "kinit" and i have the error |
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| 21:01.43 | PSG|Tartiflette | i follow this line in the tutorial => You will need to have a working Kerberos V system running. See the section Testing MIT Kerberos V for more about this. What you will have to do is get yourself two shells. Execute kinit in both and then in shell number one type |
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| 21:02.42 | Xteven | before you can do kinit, you need to have a kerberos "account" called a kerberos principal |
| 21:02.51 | \amethyst | splattnik: the session leader is the process that started a session. New processes in the session get their controlling terminal from the session leader |
| 21:03.04 | Xteven | I suggest you read up on kerberos before attempting to use it. have a look at heimdal in google |
| 21:03.07 | PSG|Tartiflette | how can i see if i have one ? |
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| 21:03.17 | jnco | DEATH |
| 21:03.24 | Xteven | you can create a principal by using the kadmin tool. "kadmin -l" for local usage |
| 21:03.33 | Xteven | it will show you a prompt |
| 21:03.43 | Xteven | type "list" there |
| 21:03.50 | Xteven | you probably don't have a principal yet |
| 21:04.08 | PSG|Tartiflette | krb5_newrealm ==> i did that ? it's not good ? |
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| 21:04.37 | Xteven | a realm is a domain in which your principals are valid |
| 21:04.49 | Xteven | your kerberos server needs to be part of such a realm |
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| 21:05.30 | PSG|Tartiflette | ok |
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| 21:06.00 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : try this link: http://www.pdc.kth.se/heimdal/heimdal.html |
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| 21:06.33 | PSG|Tartiflette | thanks |
| 21:06.35 | PSG|Tartiflette | kadmin.local -q "addprinc krbadm@<YOUR KERBEROS REALM>" |
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| 21:06.39 | zleap | hi |
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| 21:06.50 | zleap | hi bone |
| 21:06.54 | Bone | hey zlea |
| 21:06.59 | Bone | zleap* |
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| 21:07.10 | PSG|Tartiflette | i just idd that and then 'Principal krbadm@PROJETLINUX.ORG created" |
| 21:07.25 | Bone | someone please aler me when k god gets here so he can help me |
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| 21:07.32 | zleap | i was just going to ask someone to check if wikipedia is up, it is now |
| 21:07.34 | PSG|Tartiflette | it's ma principal kerberos ? |
| 21:07.50 | Xteven | its a principal, yes |
| 21:08.01 | streuner | Bone: just ask in channel or do you want insult us? |
| 21:08.03 | Xteven | you can now try "kinit krbadm@PROJETLINUX.ORG" |
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| 21:08.53 | Marby | Has avram2002 been in here? |
| 21:09.22 | streuner | Marby: /msg dpkg seen nick |
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| 21:09.40 | digits | How come that Apache2 doesn't want to install it's config files to /etc? |
| 21:09.41 | pollywog | I want to password protect my windows partition in GRUB, so I specified a password in menu.lst and also "lock" under the name of the partition but it just gets me an error |
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| 21:10.03 | pollywog | how can I get GRUB to ask for a password for the Windows partition? |
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| 21:10.32 | Marby | Thanks, streuner |
| 21:10.33 | freeone3000 | pollywog: Add a password to your windows partition account would possibly be easier. |
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| 21:10.44 | PSG|Tartiflette | i think it's work, it's ask to me a password, how can i see if a ticket was create ? |
| 21:11.05 | pollywog | freeone3000: you mean adding it in XP? |
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| 21:11.18 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : try klist |
| 21:11.30 | pollywog | freeone3000: I might have to do that but I would rather do it in GRUB. LILO let me do it |
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| 21:12.18 | ThomK | Is there a way to specificy an order to the mod's that apache loads? |
| 21:12.32 | Xteven | ThomK : modules.conf provides the order |
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| 21:12.42 | Xteven | ThomK : they are listed in reverse though :) |
| 21:12.44 | digits | pollywog: in grub type md5crypt and enter a password, copy the hash and put in a password --md5 <hash> in the appropriate place |
| 21:12.45 | Xteven | for some reason |
| 21:13.06 | pollywog | digits: a plain text pass will not work? |
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| 21:13.24 | digits | pollywog: i have no idea, i just read it in the manual |
| 21:13.24 | pollywog | because each time I use a hash, the result is different |
| 21:13.47 | PSG|Tartiflette | i thinks it's good Xteven thanks a lot , however on bottom of "Service Principal" it's write "krbtgt/PROJETLINUX.ORG@PROJETLINUX.ORG" |
| 21:13.48 | jce | scsi problems... :( I just got a new machine, a Dell Precision 380. It has some HostRaid that doesn't seems to work, so I disabled it, and the testing installer works just fine, but when I reboot into the new system, it says it can't find sda1, then immediatly after, I get a kernel msg stating that sda is now attached. So the root partition doesn't load. anyone know how to get around this> |
| 21:13.56 | pollywog | Digits: thanks, I read about that too but I was suspicious because the has comes out different each time I try |
| 21:14.03 | pollywog | hash* |
| 21:14.09 | PSG|Tartiflette | do you know what is that : "krbtgt/PROJETLINUX.ORG@PROJETLINUX.ORG" |
| 21:14.12 | Xteven | crypt uses a salt which makes the hash different each time. if it didn't, cracking a crypted hash would be trivial |
| 21:14.26 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : thats the ticket granting ticket |
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| 21:14.35 | pollywog | Xteven: even though I has the same word? |
| 21:14.37 | digits | pollywog: try it, if it doesn't work then just remove the line from menu.lst :) |
| 21:14.44 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : your application presents it to the KDC in order to get a ticket for a third server |
| 21:14.45 | pollywog | thanks folks |
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| 21:14.51 | freeone3000 | pollywog: MD5 hashes arn't diffrent for the same item... It's predictable. |
| 21:14.52 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : you can see it as a passport |
| 21:15.00 | Xteven | pollywog : yes |
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| 21:15.19 | ThomK | Xteven /etc/modules.conf ? |
| 21:15.24 | digits | Anybody have a clue to why apt-get install apache2 doesn't put any config files in /etc? |
| 21:15.28 | Xteven | ThomK : /etc/apache/modules.conf |
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| 21:15.36 | PSG|Tartiflette | ah ok, so when i install openldap, it's will be write "ldap" in this place ? |
| 21:15.40 | pollywog | I don't know how it could work if the hash is different for the same word but I will try it |
| 21:15.46 | Xteven | digits : try dpkg -L apache2 ? |
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| 21:16.05 | \amethyst | pollywog: if you pass in the same salt to crypt, it will give the same hash |
| 21:16.14 | Xteven | pollywog : an md5 crypt looks something like $1$abcdef$xxxxxxx |
| 21:16.19 | mfrisch | digits /ete/apache2/ |
| 21:16.22 | \amethyst | pollywog: so when it checks a password it uses the salt from the /etc/passwd file. |
| 21:16.24 | Xteven | pollywog : indeed as \amethyst says |
| 21:16.25 | ThomK | Xteven That doesn't exist on my system. |
| 21:16.35 | \amethyst | pollywog: But when creating a password, it picks the salt randomly |
| 21:16.42 | pollywog | \amethyst: : I tried it and got a different hash each time |
| 21:16.46 | Xteven | ThomK : what apache version do you have ? |
| 21:16.54 | pollywog | k I will try it |
| 21:16.58 | ThomK | Xteven how can I tell? |
| 21:16.58 | digits | mfrisch: nothing at all in /etc, only directories i have in /etc on A is alternatives and apt |
| 21:16.59 | pollywog | thanks all |
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| 21:17.09 | Xteven | ThomK : try dpkg -l apache |
| 21:17.23 | tarzeau | isn't it sexy? http://io.debian.net/~tar/misc/ocp.png |
| 21:17.33 | \amethyst | pollywog: that makes it so that you have to run a dictionary attack in real-time, rather than building the dictionaries in advance |
| 21:17.40 | zleap | can someone try www.wikipedia.org again, i keep losing connections |
| 21:17.46 | zleap | please |
| 21:17.47 | Xteven | tarzeau : saucy ;) |
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| 21:18.11 | ThomK | Xteven No version. |
| 21:18.18 | pollywog | amethyst: okay, I just don't understand how it works but I will try it |
| 21:18.25 | mfrisch | Digits maybe you didn't do a full install. apache-utils I think. dpkg -L apache-common will show /etc/apache2 |
| 21:18.25 | jmg | tarzeau: i love ocp! |
| 21:18.28 | Xteven | ThomK : try dpkg -l |grep -i apache |
| 21:18.30 | jmg | it finally works! yay! |
| 21:18.38 | tarzeau | jmg: me too :) got the real version or the old one from debian? |
| 21:19.02 | jmg | tarzeau: the last one that i got that works is the original cubic from msdos |
| 21:19.18 | tarzeau | jmg: try the one in debian! |
| 21:19.23 | tarzeau | it's cool if you run it in linux |
| 21:19.26 | ThomK | Xteven much better |
| 21:19.36 | aphexer | i'm in quite a mess with the packages on my system... How can I remove just anything that relates to X apps? without having to pay attention to dependencies... |
| 21:19.43 | tarzeau | it was extended to play sid tunes, ogg! adlib tunes as well as atari y* files |
| 21:19.45 | Xteven | ThomK : you have apache2 maybe ? or apache-ssl ? |
| 21:19.49 | tarzeau | and probably some more |
| 21:19.56 | ThomK | Xteven 2.0.54 apache2 |
| 21:20.03 | jmg | tarzeau: i will |
| 21:20.08 | Xteven | ThomK : ah, check /etc/apache2 |
| 21:20.09 | jmg | tarzeau: thanks |
| 21:20.11 | tarzeau | jmg: apt-get install opencubicplayer |
| 21:20.19 | Xteven | find /etc/apache2 |grep modules |
| 21:20.36 | freeone3000 | aphexer: apt-get remove xfree86 or xorg, as approiate. |
| 21:20.39 | phogg | opencubicplayer in debian? w00t |
| 21:20.43 | Bone | k god hlep |
| 21:20.45 | Bone | please hlep |
| 21:20.49 | tarzeau | phogg: heh :) yep, for quite some time now |
| 21:21.01 | Xteven | Bone : do you have a question ? |
| 21:21.04 | tarzeau | phogg, jmg if you knew impulse tracker, check out schism! |
| 21:21.10 | tarzeau | it's a clone of it! and a very good one too |
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| 21:21.17 | ThomK | Xteven Check it for what? |
| 21:21.22 | ThomK | Xteven modules.conf ? |
| 21:21.28 | Xteven | ThomK : yes |
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| 21:21.37 | digits | mfrisch: at the newest version |
| 21:21.43 | Xteven | ThomK : I (still) don't use apache2, so I have no experience with it :/ |
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| 21:21.55 | Xteven | ThomK : but I assume it has a modules.conf somewhere in some form |
| 21:21.59 | ThomK | Xteven Not there. |
| 21:22.04 | Xteven | oh :/ |
| 21:22.20 | ThomK | Xteven Actually what you do is symlink the installed modules over to another directory. |
| 21:22.20 | Xteven | I'm afraid you'll have to lookup apache2 documentation then |
| 21:22.29 | Xteven | or maybe try #apache, there's a lot of people there |
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| 21:23.13 | PSG|Tartiflette | and modify The OpenLDAP config file with these options: |
| 21:23.13 | PSG|Tartiflette | someone know where is the openldap config file ? |
| 21:23.27 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : /etc/openldap/slapd.conf or so ? |
| 21:23.28 | digits | mfrisch: i think i've solved the problem... i've rescuing a server from my brother... he probably just removed the folder a but left the package... |
| 21:23.30 | tarzeau | helix: from #suse, 23:22 < sPiN> helix is such total ass! and it gives people the wrong idea :( |
| 21:23.33 | ThomK | Xteven Thanks. Hey what was that |grep for in that command? |
| 21:23.42 | ThomK | Xteven I'm learning linux |
| 21:23.57 | Xteven | ThomK : | means pipe |
| 21:24.10 | ThomK | Xteven Yeah why did you pipe one to the other? |
| 21:24.11 | PSG|Tartiflette | thanks Xteven , it was /etc/ldap/slapd.conf |
| 21:24.25 | phogg | $(*&# damn libqt3c102-mt... |
| 21:24.26 | Xteven | ThomK : cmd1 | cmd2 means that the output of cmd1 is piped into the input of cmd2 |
| 21:24.47 | Xteven | ThomK : ah, grep is a tool to filter out lines |
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| 21:25.05 | Xteven | for example "grep modules" means show all lines that contain "modules" |
| 21:25.05 | sobersabre | hi. |
| 21:25.08 | Covener | does the address 0xffffe410 have some magic significance? I'm seeing it in a bizarro backtrace and there's including some huge symbol and it always seems to coincide with that symbol in google results. What does a high address mean in a backtrace? |
| 21:25.15 | ThomK | Xteven Yeah, but the first part of that command didn't have a lot of lines when I ran it alone. |
| 21:25.28 | sobersabre | is there a way I can see file's creation date with ls or similar utility ? maybe some shell tool ? |
| 21:25.30 | ThomK | Xteven Nevermind, you're right. |
| 21:25.31 | Xteven | ThomK : grep can do a lot more matching stuff, but I think you best lookup some examples of that on google |
| 21:25.36 | tarzeau | sobersabre: stat |
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| 21:25.55 | tarzeau | sobersabre: but it's not creation date |
| 21:26.06 | yggdrasil | hey guys i just noticed something, i made an smb server out of one of my boxes and i cant copy files more than 2gb ? |
| 21:26.08 | ThomK | Xteven should the mod_proxy module show up in that dpkg ? |
| 21:26.46 | Xteven | ThomK : maybe, if it is installed and contains "apache" in its description :) |
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| 21:27.11 | sobersabre | tarzeau: hmm. is "creation date"=="Access" ? |
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| 21:27.25 | phogg | sobersabre: ctime is changed time. There is no way to find the created time. |
| 21:27.31 | jelly | Covener: x86? I _think_ that's kernel space. |
| 21:27.36 | Xteven | sobersabre : try ls -lc |
| 21:27.43 | tarzeau | sobersabre: no |
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| 21:28.01 | Xteven | sobersabre : creation time (ctime) and access time (atime) are different. you can change atime, but not ctime (unless you're root) |
| 21:28.22 | tarzeau | Xteven: no ctime is NOT creation time |
| 21:28.23 | \amethyst | err |
| 21:28.25 | Xteven | hmm ctime is indeed change time, not creation time |
| 21:28.27 | Xteven | sorry :) |
| 21:28.31 | tarzeau | np |
| 21:28.32 | \amethyst | inode change time |
| 21:28.33 | phogg | yggdrasil: probably running into the 2G FAT32 filesize limit. I think samba has an option to pretend it's sharing a filesystem without that limitation |
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| 21:28.54 | yggdrasil | hmm intersting phogg |
| 21:28.57 | tarzeau | phogg: use cifs |
| 21:29.08 | tarzeau | phogg: it's a smbfs problem not a fat32 filesize limit |
| 21:29.15 | yggdrasil | well i thought smb was the grand pooper |
| 21:29.18 | yggdrasil | im pretty disapointed |
| 21:29.21 | phogg | tarzeau: talk to yggdrasil |
| 21:29.24 | Pollywog | I tried the hashed password in GRUB and I get exactly the same error before, the error just says error 42 authentication required |
| 21:29.26 | tarzeau | yggdrasil: for you |
| 21:29.36 | tarzeau | Pollywog: works for me |
| 21:29.45 | tarzeau | Pollywog: md5? can you post the password and hash here? |
| 21:29.51 | yggdrasil | cifs huh |
| 21:29.53 | yggdrasil | great |
| 21:30.02 | tarzeau | i prefer fics |
| 21:30.07 | Pollywog | yes md5 |
| 21:30.13 | tarzeau | Pollywog: works for me |
| 21:30.20 | tarzeau | Pollywog: maybe wrong keyboard mapping? |
| 21:30.27 | tarzeau | got some crazy turkish/french keyboard? |
| 21:30.29 | Pollywog | I followed the example in the menu.lst file |
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| 21:30.39 | Pollywog | tarzeau: that could be it I suppose |
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| 21:31.05 | Pollywog | but even a plain text password got me the same error |
| 21:31.12 | tarzeau | Pollywog: also works for me |
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| 21:31.22 | tarzeau | Pollywog: i think it's a user problem and not a GRUB one |
| 21:31.32 | jelly | Covener: oh, you have a 2.6 kernel. 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall <-- that's a 2.6 way to use system calls. Try ldd /bin/ls (or any other dynamically linked binary), you ought to see something like linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) -- that's VSYSCALL. It's normal. ;-) |
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| 21:31.43 | Pollywog | oh well I will just disable the Windows partition while away |
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| 21:31.55 | tarzeau | Pollywog: what are you hiding? |
| 21:32.05 | BlackJudas` | Hokay, I can fully admit that I don't understand how the IPv6 stack is implemented in debian, I have no clue why I even _have_ an ipv6 address. So I've gently ignored it. Now, apache2 and ssh only use ipv6 (or listen to tcp6)... wtf... and how do I disable ipv6 alltogether? (I know, it's bad mmkay, but it's an issue I just don't want to deal with today) |
| 21:32.10 | Pollywog | I do not want anyone else booting windows |
| 21:32.18 | Pollywog | that's all |
| 21:32.25 | Pollywog | not "hiding" anything |
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| 21:33.02 | finn | what's the best way to activate xcomposite (and use the graphicscard for rendering) |
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| 21:34.02 | BlackJudas` | Or, if it's too much bother, could someone point me to the debian docs on how to deal with/modify, enable/disable, assign ipv6'ness? |
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| 21:34.37 | Bone | is there a linux guru in here that can help me with my problem? |
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| 21:35.16 | sandman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.21 | sandman | I get that a lot when I'm trying to install stuff. |
| 21:35.37 | finn | with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?? |
| 21:35.55 | BlackJudas` | SUPAR! |
| 21:35.57 | Xteven | Bone : WHAT problem ? |
| 21:36.03 | sandman | I also get this a lot, too: Error: Server denied you to change to the given directory |
| 21:36.16 | sandman | Anyone know why this is? |
| 21:36.27 | Xteven | sandman : apt-get ? |
| 21:36.35 | sandman | Xteven: Yeah, I get some other errors with that, too |
| 21:36.38 | sandman | Xteven: Also with apt-spy |
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| 21:36.51 | sobersabre | Boner, get to the point... |
| 21:36.52 | Xteven | sandman : did you try apt-get update before installing something ? |
| 21:36.58 | sandman | yup |
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| 21:37.08 | PSIplus | Hi |
| 21:37.08 | Xteven | sandman : and did you try another server ? |
| 21:37.12 | Xteven | maybe ftp protocol ? |
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| 21:37.31 | PSIplus | i got a textfile in utf-8 and need to convert it to iso-8859-15 ... how could i do this? |
| 21:37.35 | Xteven | we have a problem with webcaches at our site that cause 404's sometimes when using HTTP |
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| 21:37.48 | PSIplus | (console-only environment) |
| 21:37.56 | jeeves_Moss | all: can any one help me with a php problem with Apache? |
| 21:38.30 | outlaw84 | Is there a way to get the system to "reparse" /etc/fstab and get it to mount stuff that are not mounted now? |
| 21:38.32 | Xteven | PSIplus : there is something called uni2ascii |
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| 21:38.38 | Xteven | PSIplus : I haven't tried it yet |
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| 21:38.46 | PSG|Tartiflette | Xteven , i stop for this evening, thanks a lot for your help, i have problems with openldap now, maybe i ask to you tomorow if you are here. Good night and thanks |
| 21:38.47 | Pollywog | tarzeau: It works now, I figured out what I had done wrong |
| 21:38.52 | sandman | I'm trying all of teh servers right now with apt-spy |
| 21:38.52 | Pollywog | tarzeau: thanks |
| 21:38.56 | sandman | Almost all of them don't work |
| 21:38.57 | Xteven | outlaw84 : try mount -a |
| 21:38.58 | UncleSkunk | what would I use to open a .config to edit it? in command prompt |
| 21:39.00 | PSIplus | Xteven: nice... i'll try out... thanx |
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| 21:39.07 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : np |
| 21:39.09 | jeeves_Moss | all: Apache, PHP issues? Any one? |
| 21:39.21 | outlaw84 | Xteven: it worked, thanks |
| 21:39.35 | UncleSkunk | I dunno Jeeves_Moss but I bet Ill soon be in the same boat |
| 21:39.43 | Xteven | UncleSkunk : maybe try "nano" if your a beginner |
| 21:39.45 | Bone | is there a linux guru in here that can hlep me with my hardware problem? |
| 21:39.49 | Pollywog | tarzeau: I just put the password line in the wrong place, putting it on the line following "lock" fixed it |
| 21:39.52 | Xteven | UncleSkunk : "vi" is also a standard |
| 21:39.58 | Xteven | outlaw84 : np |
| 21:40.07 | UncleSkunk | Xteven, yeah that was it thanks |
| 21:40.08 | jeeves_Moss | UncleSkunk: LOL, well, this thing is making me mad. 4 hours latter and I'm still no where closer to what I need |
| 21:40.10 | Xteven | I think Bone is a bot |
| 21:40.25 | Bone | .......abot? no, im a real boy |
| 21:40.26 | Pollywog | I still don't get WHY this works since hashing a word gives me a different result each time |
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| 21:40.42 | Xteven | jeeves_Moss : just pop the question :) |
| 21:40.42 | Pollywog | but it works :) |
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| 21:40.49 | UncleSkunk | yeah pop it |
| 21:40.58 | Xteven | Bone : can you be more specific on your problem then ? |
| 21:41.07 | sandman | netselect-apt vs. apt-spy? |
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| 21:41.24 | lepton | dpkg tell Bone about ask |
| 21:41.31 | jeeves_Moss | Xteven: ok, I've got apache and PHP4 installed, and I'm guessing working, but when I local host it in firefox, it askes me to either select a program to deal with the PHPHL file or to save it. |
| 21:41.40 | Xteven | Pollywog : the salt is something that is "appended" to your password to have more data to crypt |
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| 21:41.47 | Pollywog | lepton: particle physics ? |
| 21:41.48 | sobersabre | Bone, can you logically proof you're not a bot ? |
| 21:41.53 | aphexer | how do i get a list of packages that depend on package 'X'? |
| 21:42.00 | Xteven | Pollywog : but you need those extra bytes when you want to check for the password |
| 21:42.13 | lepton | Pollywog: I'm a physicist, yes. |
| 21:42.17 | Xteven | Pollywog : the salt is added to the crypted password so it can be reused later |
| 21:42.19 | DAaaMan64 | can someone help me get mplayer working? All I ever get is "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out(-vo) device. |
| 21:42.25 | Pollywog | lepton: oic :) |
| 21:42.32 | DAaaMan64 | Kaffiene works fine, but I want to use mencoder. |
| 21:42.51 | PSIplus | Xteven: ah, found tcs...makes the job pretty well |
| 21:42.51 | Xteven | jeeves_Moss : looks like a php handler problem |
| 21:42.53 | Pollywog | Xteven: thanks, for now, I will just accept that it works |
| 21:43.09 | jeeves_Moss | Xteven: ok, now how do I fix that? |
| 21:43.19 | Xteven | jeeves_Moss : did you add something like .php application/x-php |
| 21:43.32 | Xteven | or whatever, I don't know the correct formulation |
| 21:43.43 | jeeves_Moss | Xteven: I know is soooo simple, and I'm probley just missing it. and yes, the .php line is in my config files. |
| 21:44.03 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss: did u uncomment the php module in the /etc/apache/httpd.conf file? |
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| 21:44.22 | Xteven | AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 |
| 21:44.27 | jeeves_Moss | init_G: yep |
| 21:44.30 | Xteven | something like that (copypasted from google) |
| 21:44.45 | elirips | DAaaMan64, try with 'mplayer -vo xv somefile.avi' |
| 21:44.55 | DAaaMan64 | ok |
| 21:45.36 | elirips | DAaaMan64, or with another video-output driver, see 'mplayer -vo help' for a list |
| 21:46.07 | jeeves_Moss | init_G: as I said, its probley something simple that I'm missing. |
| 21:46.29 | Bone_Thug | how do i identify myself, fo rmy username, cause i dn't talk in channel with out it |
| 21:46.37 | Bone_Thug | i did" IDENTIFY packers" |
| 21:46.41 | Bone_Thug | doesn't work |
| 21:46.43 | jeeves_Moss | Xteven: any other ideas? |
| 21:46.45 | Bone_Thug | and thats the pass |
| 21:46.51 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, i kno that when apache doesnt recognise a file it usually ask u to download it |
| 21:46.56 | Xteven | jeeves_Moss : how did you install php ? |
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| 21:47.20 | jeeves_Moss | Xteven: yep. PHP4 with MySQL handlers. |
| 21:47.27 | DAaaMan64 | Sounds like a dependency problem maybe? mplayer: /usr/lib/libtheora.so.0: no version information available (required by mplayer) |
| 21:47.35 | Xteven | jeeves_Moss : also, did you upload the php file from windows ? |
| 21:47.43 | Xteven | it should start with <?php |
| 21:47.45 | Xteven | and nothing else |
| 21:47.47 | elirips | DAaaMan64, how did you install mplayer? |
| 21:47.51 | Xteven | no carriage return behind the last char |
| 21:47.52 | thingfish | Bone_Thug: that's how you log in all right. Except now you should change your password. |
| 21:47.55 | DAaaMan64 | apt |
| 21:47.55 | jeeves_Moss | Xteven: ??? from windows? no, I'm on a Debian box. |
| 21:47.56 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, and the simple way around the problem is to apt-get install apache-phpmodule or somethin like that |
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| 21:48.44 | dannythm | wich where the command to force an eject of the cd/dvd when kde don't let me eject it? |
| 21:48.44 | jeeves_Moss | init_G: didden't like that package. |
| 21:48.54 | dannythm | i don't find it in google |
| 21:49.05 | freeone3000 | dannythm: eject |
| 21:49.46 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, thats really strange |
| 21:49.52 | Bone_Thug | thingfish |
| 21:50.03 | dannythm | freeone3000: i want to force an ejecto, if I eject it gives me an error |
| 21:50.05 | Bone_Thug | thats my password i registered with |
| 21:50.06 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, without that module apache wont see the file |
| 21:50.09 | Bone_Thug | i can't get in |
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| 21:50.33 | jeeves_Moss | init_G: so..... now, any ideas on how to fix this crap? |
| 21:50.34 | freeone3000 | dannythm: Fix the error. |
| 21:50.39 | freeone3000 | dannythm: The error's there for a reason. |
| 21:50.52 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, what version of deb u running? |
| 21:51.01 | jeeves_Moss | 2.6? |
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| 21:51.13 | resiak | jeeves_Moss: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 21:51.16 | dannythm | freeone3000: it tells me that media is busy but it's not true! |
| 21:51.27 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, apt-cahce search apache php and tell me what u get |
| 21:51.40 | freeone3000 | dannythm: Do you have any operations going on? Is something in that directory in a terminal? Do you have its contents open in a window? |
| 21:51.49 | dannythm | freeone3000: nope |
| 21:51.58 | jeeves_Moss | resiak: testing/unstable. ummmm, that might be the problem. LOL |
| 21:51.58 | freeone3000 | dannythm: Sure? Not even that one? |
| 21:52.06 | dannythm | freeone3000: nothing |
| 21:52.28 | DAaaMan64 | elirips: "Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts." What does this mean? And what would you suggest? |
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| 21:52.31 | jeeves_Moss | init_G: dosen't like that command. |
| 21:52.58 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, apt-cahce search apache | grep php |
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| 21:53.52 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Ahh, you're back again |
| 21:54.04 | Canna | does anyone have a problem with their web browsers closing at random times under KDE, maybe gnome too but i dont remember |
| 21:54.04 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: yep, same problem |
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| 21:54.07 | Athletic | rooter online ? |
| 21:54.08 | Athletic | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.13 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, apt-cache search apache | grep php *correction* |
| 21:54.19 | jeeves_Moss | init_G: dosen't like the apt-cahce command. |
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| 21:54.23 | Athletic | need one user |
| 21:54.24 | Athletic | shell |
| 21:54.25 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: You *are* processing php files. |
| 21:54.26 | dannythm | freeone3000: the same when I try to umount -f /media/cdrom |
| 21:54.27 | Athletic | stable machine |
| 21:54.30 | Athletic | i add user psybnc |
| 21:54.31 | Athletic | vhosted |
| 21:54.33 | Athletic | pls :) |
| 21:54.36 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, spelt cache wrong lol |
| 21:54.40 | freeone3000 | dannythm: Of course, because that's what eject does... before ejecting... |
| 21:54.42 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: ok, so how do I fix it? |
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| 21:54.45 | Maulkin | Now, what's the exat message you're getting when you try and view a file? |
| 21:54.50 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, apt-cache search apache | grep php *correction* |
| 21:54.55 | Athletic | so? |
| 21:54.55 | Athletic | pls |
| 21:54.57 | Athletic | private |
| 21:54.58 | Xteven | innit_0 : it may be interesting to know that apt-cache search can search for multiple keywords aswell |
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| 21:55.03 | jeeves_Moss | init_G: what did you want to know out of that? |
| 21:55.16 | dannythm | freeone3000: so? what can I do? |
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| 21:55.31 | Athletic | need one user |
| 21:55.33 | Athletic | shell |
| 21:55.34 | innit_0 | well u are looking for a php module for apache |
| 21:55.36 | Athletic | stable machine |
| 21:55.40 | Athletic | i add user psybnc |
| 21:55.46 | Athletic | vhosted |
| 21:55.54 | Athletic | pls |
| 21:55.55 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, if ur sourcelist cant find it |
| 21:56.05 | jeeves_Moss | init_0: The PHP modules are installed. |
| 21:56.18 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, are they all uncommented? |
| 21:56.27 | ice_1963 | there is a bug in foomatic-db in etch for printconf |
| 21:56.44 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, in the conf file? |
| 21:56.48 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: I need the exact messgae you get from Firefox please... |
| 21:56.51 | jeeves_Moss | from that output, it looks like it. and when I checked the HTTPD.conf file, all the php lines are uncommented. |
| 21:57.08 | freeone3000 | dannythm: Well, it works for me as long as no 'cp' or 'mv' or I'm not in its directory. |
| 21:57.19 | freeone3000 | dannythm: Is the access light on on the front of the device at all? |
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| 21:57.36 | DAaaMan64 | Does anyone know what this might mean? "Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts." It is an emplayer error. |
| 21:57.41 | Maulkin | innit_0: jeeves_Moss has the modules installed and they're serving properly. It looks like he has a problem with a couple of files that aren't setting the mime.type properly |
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| 21:57.54 | Maulkin | s/setting/serving |
| 21:57.58 | freeone3000 | DAaaMan64: It means you should add that line to your startup scripts. |
| 21:58.04 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, hmm |
| 21:58.16 | august__ | i want to get rid of my tomcat 5 package (and the ton of dependencies it had) - hwo can i run apt-get to get rid of tomcat5 and all its dependencies that are not needed by anything else? |
| 21:58.17 | joey_ | how do I rip cd and create iso under linux ? cat /dev/cd > file.iso ? |
| 21:58.20 | dannythm | freeone3000: nope, the device is doing nothing |
| 21:58.21 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: You have chosen to open <blank> witch is a: PHTML file from HTTP://localhost What should Firefox do with this file? |
| 21:58.22 | HAMM3R | debian wont boot. it freezes at a message about the USB controller. i fixed this before by adding something to the end of the command in the grub boot manager. can anyone tell me what that is? |
| 21:58.34 | freeone3000 | dannythm: No clue then. Did you mount it with kde? |
| 21:58.45 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: then it gives me the option to open it with.... or save it. |
| 21:58.50 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Right... Can you do "ls -l /path/to/file" for me please. |
| 21:59.14 | DAaaMan64 | freeone3000: so add "echo 1024" to "/proc/sys/dev/max-user-freq"? |
| 21:59.18 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: path to file? you mean the real or virtual path? |
| 21:59.25 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: real one |
| 21:59.28 | freeone3000 | DAaaMan64: You'd want to add that line to the startup scrpit. |
| 21:59.34 | jeeves_Moss | /home/webroot/stats/ |
| 21:59.35 | freeone3000 | DAaaMan64: The entire line, inside the quotes. |
| 21:59.39 | august__ | fedora's rpm apt does this with -D... |
| 21:59.43 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: no... |
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| 21:59.53 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: you need the ls -l too |
| 21:59.58 | DAaaMan64 | freeone3000: thank you, where is the startup script located? |
| 22:00.01 | mutante | Hi, i have just rented this new vserver, and there is a "Suse 9.3" installed, but i prefer Debian. Therefore i would like to use the "debtakeover" script that is made for this purpose, but it fails because there is no "deboostrap". So i was trying to install that on Suse, but the Suse people tell me it only exists on Debian hosts, so that seemed like a paradox to me, how can i convert? |
| 22:00.05 | freeone3000 | DAaaMan64: No clue... |
| 22:00.13 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, he wants to see what files in the folder |
| 22:00.18 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: ok, what are we looking for? |
| 22:00.21 | idonthaveonesodo | hi , does any one knows how can i change the path where my maillogs are stored ? |
| 22:00.32 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: I need the line that's outputted form that command :) |
| 22:00.55 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2318 2006-03-16 05:28 /home/webroot/stats/index.php |
| 22:00.59 | dannythm | freeone3000: I put the cd, used it and now I want to change, but it don't comes out =S |
| 22:01.07 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: ok, thanks |
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| 22:01.36 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: can you try "ls -l home/webroot/stats/.htaccess" ? |
| 22:02.17 | DAaaMan64 | Does anyone know where the startup script is? |
| 22:02.18 | innit_0 | Maulkin, i dont think he would have anything in there |
| 22:02.18 | freeone3000 | dannythm: Can't unmount it. Did you try as root? |
| 22:02.21 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: dosen't exist |
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| 22:02.39 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: ok... |
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| 22:02.45 | Skull | i did: REGISTER skull, to register my name in ##linux, but it dnd't work, i did what the damn thing said, what did i do wrong?!?!? |
| 22:02.54 | Maulkin | What happens, in firefox if you try and go to yada/stats/index.php directly? |
| 22:03.14 | dannythm | freeone3000: I always try as a root |
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| 22:03.26 | PhoenixMan | hi. IR dumb |
| 22:03.33 | innit_0 | Maulkin, it probably still wont recognise it |
| 22:03.38 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: same thing |
| 22:04.33 | PhoenixMan | I installed debian and it told me about the location of base-setup |
| 22:04.33 | PhoenixMan | but I can't find it. help |
| 22:04.33 | Maulkin | innit_0: However, it does recognise others. |
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| 22:04.34 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: ok... Is this page accessible drom the outside world? |
| 22:04.34 | Maulkin | *from |
| 22:04.34 | jeeves_Moss | no idea. I don't have another system here to test it. |
| 22:04.57 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: ok... can you try: |
| 22:05.02 | innit_0 | Maulkin, when u say others do u mean other extensions ei.. html? or cgi? |
| 22:05.03 | PhoenixMan | ? |
| 22:05.10 | PhoenixMan | where is base-setup located? |
| 22:05.20 | Maulkin | echo "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" > /home/webroot/stats/test.php |
| 22:05.24 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: as I said, I don't have another system handy right now to test it. |
| 22:05.35 | penrod | I am trying to install ( via apt-get) mailx, I have postfix installed (from source), yet apt-get wants to install exim4 etc., is there a way of installing mailx without the dependencies ? |
| 22:05.35 | Maulkin | innit_0: No, other .php files |
| 22:05.55 | Skull | someone plezase hlep |
| 22:06.04 | pngwn | Skull, your nick has already been registered by someone else |
| 22:06.05 | innit_0 | Maulkin, ohhh its just one file that is f ing about? |
| 22:06.07 | Skull | REGISTER skull <<i typeds that in ##linux |
| 22:06.16 | Skull | oh, ok |
| 22:06.40 | Covener | jelly: I see -- thanks for the tip, guessing stack corruption in my backtrace then (possible abuse of sleep()) |
| 22:06.45 | Maulkin | innit_0: Possibly not just that one, but the php install does work. |
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| 22:07.09 | jeeves_Moss | init_0: its ALL php files that it dosen't like. |
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| 22:07.23 | Skull_Crusher | OMFG |
| 22:07.28 | innit_0 | Maulkin, i got an essay to finish before 12 brb on the case, thats if u dont solve it lol |
| 22:07.32 | liable | Skull_Crusher: /msg nickserv help |
| 22:07.35 | *** part/#debian PhoenixMan (n=PhoenixM@ip503dc401.speed.planet.nl) |
| 22:07.35 | Skull_Crusher | i tried "REGISTER Skull_Crusher" also |
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| 22:07.43 | Skull_Crusher | i've already loookated at that dman thin |
| 22:07.48 | Skull_Crusher | why isn't this workiong |
| 22:07.49 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: No, it's not :) |
| 22:07.53 | Skull_Crusher | no one hasthis nick |
| 22:07.57 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin, init_0: I wonder if a compleate removal/purge of ALL web files and a reinstall would fix it. |
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| 22:08.06 | Maulkin | Skull_Crusher: tey asking in #freenode please |
| 22:08.10 | Maulkin | Skull_Crusher: *try |
| 22:08.17 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Did you try that line? |
| 22:08.19 | Skull_Crusher | i had registered bone thug, but my damn password won't work when i tried "IDENTIFY packers" |
| 22:08.20 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, its worth a shot |
| 22:08.31 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: echo "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" > /home/webroot/stats/test.php |
| 22:08.45 | Bone_Thug | hmm |
| 22:08.47 | innit_0 | jeeves_Moss, but thats reinstall should always be a last option |
| 22:08.54 | Bone_Thug | IDENTIFY packers |
| 22:09.02 | liable | doh |
| 22:09.05 | Bone_Thug | IDENTIFY grudge |
| 22:09.08 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: I tried that line in a PHP file and it returns an error |
| 22:09.09 | Maulkin | Bone_Thug: Please take it to #freenode |
| 22:09.19 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Not exactly that line |
| 22:09.24 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: please try that. |
| 22:09.30 | liable | Bone_Thug: dude, you have to say that to nickserv, not #debian |
| 22:09.31 | jeeves_Moss | does it have the " "s @ the end? |
| 22:09.49 | Bone_Thug | so i type /msg |
| 22:09.50 | Bone_Thug | wha |
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| 22:09.57 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: just: |
| 22:09.57 | Maulkin | echo "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" > /home/webroot/stats/test.php |
| 22:09.58 | Bone_Thug | im tring tomake it work in ##LInux |
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| 22:10.09 | liable | Bone_Thug: /msg nickserv identify passwaord |
| 22:10.13 | Maulkin | Bone_Thug: It will work in ##linux |
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| 22:10.31 | Maulkin | Bone_Thug: If you have further questions, I suggest you ask in #freenode. This is really off topic |
| 22:10.43 | ChrisW_ | what is nvfs |
| 22:10.52 | ChrisW_ | and why is it creaming 96% of my box's cpu?! |
| 22:10.53 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: ok, that looks fimerlier. It displays the PHP stats. So we know its phrasing it properly. |
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| 22:10.58 | plbgnr | hello, is it possible to copy text in command line without using mouse? |
| 22:11.11 | liable | plbgnr: yes, install gpm |
| 22:11.13 | tarzeau | using screen yes |
| 22:11.17 | liable | err.. |
| 22:11.18 | lepton | plbgnr: it can be done with screen |
| 22:11.22 | Bone_Thug | liable: thanks, im such a noob, they need ot have doc son thiss shit |
| 22:11.23 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Right... now, please try "ls -l /home/webroot/stats/index*" |
| 22:11.24 | liable | plbgnr: ignore me |
| 22:11.42 | liable | Bone_Thug: read the freenode faq |
| 22:11.46 | Maulkin | Bone_Thug: please, go to #freenode. This doesn't belong here |
| 22:12.01 | tarzeau | !noob |
| 22:12.02 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 22:12.14 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2318 2006-03-16 05:28 /home/webroot/stats/index.php |
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| 22:12.29 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Is that the only line? |
| 22:12.39 | plbgnr | thanks |
| 22:13.07 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: yep, that line only |
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| 22:13.22 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: ok... I think it's a problem with that stats program |
| 22:13.32 | Maulkin | Can you upload that index.html file somewhere? |
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| 22:13.49 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: it does the SAME thing with phpMyAdmin |
| 22:14.05 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: ok... |
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| 22:14.19 | ChrisW_ | *schniff* |
| 22:14.24 | ChrisW_ | will no one tell me what nvfs is? |
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| 22:14.36 | sandman | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://debian.uchicago.edu testing/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/debian.uchicago.edu_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 22:14.41 | Maulkin | Can you please pastebin the output of "grep x-httpd-php /etc/apache/httpd.conf" |
| 22:14.44 | Maulkin | no... |
| 22:14.50 | Maulkin | Can you please pastebin the output of "grep x-httpd-php /etc/apache/mime.types" |
| 22:15.06 | sandman | My debian is having some serious issues. |
| 22:15.10 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: even with the BASE install of phpMyAdmin, the root of the folder STILL is making FireFox ask if I want to save the file. |
| 22:15.13 | Maulkin | sandman: That mirror may be out of date. Run apt-setup |
| 22:15.24 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: How did you install phpmyadmin? |
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| 22:15.30 | HAMM3R | debian wont boot. it freezes at a message about the USB controller. i fixed this before by adding something to the end of the command in the grub boot manager. can anyone tell me what that is? |
| 22:15.32 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: And can you please try that line above |
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| 22:15.52 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: untared and stuffed into the directory so I can start to set it up |
| 22:16.00 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Don't do that :) |
| 22:16.09 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: apt-get install phpmyadmin :) |
| 22:16.25 | ChrisW_ | what would happen if I killed the nvfs process? |
| 22:16.33 | sandman | Maulkin: I ran apt-spy update && apt-spy -s us -d testing |
| 22:16.35 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: no |
| 22:16.49 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: and that line you wanted didden't do anything. |
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| 22:17.18 | ChrisW_ | wow, you guys are a mine of help tonight ;-) |
| 22:17.20 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: #AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 |
| 22:17.20 | jeeves_Moss | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.20 | jeeves_Moss | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.20 | jeeves_Moss | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:17.32 | ChrisW_ | where can I find out what nvfs even is then? |
| 22:17.36 | Maulkin | ChrisW_: man nvfs |
| 22:17.38 | ChrisW_ | google is proving inconclusive |
| 22:17.44 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: it booted me. |
| 22:17.50 | ChrisW_ | Maulkin: tried, no man page found :-/ |
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| 22:17.56 | Maulkin | !tell jeeves_Moss about paster |
| 22:18.02 | mutante | hmm, i wonder why #suse wont help me more on how to convert Suse to Debian |
| 22:18.03 | Maulkin | ChrisW_: Any luck from lsof? |
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| 22:18.47 | finn | what's the paket name of "xcompmgr" ? |
| 22:18.54 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: I know about #flood. It just slipped my mind. |
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| 22:19.19 | ChrisW_ | lsof | grep nvfs gave me nothing |
| 22:19.20 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: right... you see that line which says "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php" ? |
| 22:19.36 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Change it to "application/x-httpd-php phtml pht php" |
| 22:19.38 | ChrisW_ | mutante: lol ;-) |
| 22:19.43 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: yep. second from the bottom |
| 22:19.48 | finn | hi mutante |
| 22:19.56 | mutante | hehe, hi finn |
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| 22:20.02 | jez | I'm very concerned that my server may have been 0wned. I know I am losing some e-mails, as if somebody was connecting and deleting them every now and then, as they're not staying in my mailbox. Anyone have any advice on what I could do to diagnose the problem? |
| 22:20.58 | matteo | jez: boot from cd and run chkrootkit |
| 22:21.03 | matteo | anyway, gnite |
| 22:21.09 | Maulkin | ChrisW_: try "lsof -p `pidof nvfs`" |
| 22:21.30 | Maulkin | jez: install and run chkrootkit and rkhunter |
| 22:21.42 | ChrisW_ | "lsof: no process ID specified" |
| 22:21.57 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: Still asking me to save the damn file. |
| 22:22.02 | Maulkin | ChrisW_: And you're sure the process running is called nvfs? |
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| 22:22.06 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: reload apache |
| 22:22.38 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: I did. |
| 22:22.45 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: Same thing |
| 22:23.04 | ChrisW_ | it was, seems to have dropped away now |
| 22:23.07 | ChrisW_ | what was it? |
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| 22:23.12 | Maulkin | ChrisW_: no idea |
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| 22:23.58 | Maulkin | ChrisW_: I *think* it's the non-volotile file system |
| 22:24.06 | ChrisW_ | wtf is one of them? ;-) |
| 22:24.14 | Maulkin | ChrisW_: google for nvfs linux :) |
| 22:24.25 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Can you try that grep line again please? |
| 22:24.44 | [machine] | re neil |
| 22:24.46 | Bone_Thug | last night i overdosed on caffeine ills |
| 22:24.48 | Bone_Thug | pills* |
| 22:24.52 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: And why won't you install phpmyadmin from apt-get? |
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| 22:25.03 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: what was the grep line again? |
| 22:25.15 | Bone_Thug | why is debian so shitty with hardware? it wouldn't even recognize my shit |
| 22:25.16 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: becuase it's not officially supported if it's come from someone else |
| 22:25.28 | splattnik | is there any good program for mixing music in linux? |
| 22:25.35 | Maulkin | !ops Bone_Thug being persistantly off topic and abusive/trolling |
| 22:25.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Bone_Thug being persistantly off topic and abusive/trolling |
| 22:25.44 | RichiH | hmm |
| 22:25.44 | cievo | > hello all...does any one can help me with apache setting? I need apache to cache page first and than display it to user. |
| 22:25.54 | RichiH | Bone_Thug: please stop |
| 22:26.00 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: does it just ass the virtual path to my root of my HTTP server? |
| 22:26.01 | azeem | yeah |
| 22:26.02 | Bone_Thug | im serious, when i said shit i mean my cd-rw drive |
| 22:26.12 | Bone_Thug | its all codenames, we're on a mission |
| 22:26.20 | azeem | Bone_Thug: this is a support channel not your personal life-experience room |
| 22:26.26 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: "grep x-httpd-php /etc/apache/mime.types" |
| 22:26.31 | RichiH | Bone_Thug: sorry, but i fear i will have to insist :/ |
| 22:26.40 | Bone_Thug | hmm |
| 22:26.42 | Bone_Thug | no |
| 22:26.42 | Bone_Thug | please |
| 22:26.54 | Bone_Thug | where is a good channel wher i can just good off |
| 22:26.59 | Bone_Thug | goof* |
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| 22:27.00 | *** kick/#debian [Bone_Thug!i=richih@freenode/staff/richih] by RichiH (thank you for complying with our social rules) |
| 22:27.00 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: what am I looking for again? |
| 22:27.16 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: It'll install under a apache Alias directive, so should be visible to all vhosts |
| 22:27.29 | mbishop | RichiH: should have ban forwarded to #gentoo |
| 22:27.39 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: the line that says "phtml" in it somehwree |
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| 22:28.00 | jeeves_Moss | Mailkin: yes, its in there. |
| 22:28.04 | RichiH | mbishop: heh |
| 22:28.13 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: What's the line please? :) |
| 22:28.17 | RichiH | mbishop: ages ago, some guys from there came here to troll |
| 22:28.24 | RichiH | no need to repay that favour ;) |
| 22:28.31 | dany | hi |
| 22:28.35 | mbishop | RichiH: wouldn't suprise me -_- |
| 22:28.49 | Maulkin | [machine]: Oi! You gone for the NM thing yet? :) |
| 22:28.51 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: application/x-httpd-php phtml pht php |
| 22:28.59 | RichiH | mbishop: well, they have a lot of good people, too |
| 22:29.00 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: and you reloaded apache? |
| 22:29.01 | mbishop | RichiH: sshh, it's a secret, but some of the #gentoo staff still ban forward to #debian :x |
| 22:29.05 | RichiH | as we have idiots :) |
| 22:29.06 | dany | i have a small probelm with my keyboard layout each time i restart x i must typ eit in root to have extra key setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout fr |
| 22:29.09 | dany | how can i ssave it, |
| 22:29.18 | [machine] | NM? oh, *him*? |
| 22:29.31 | mbishop | RichiH: I'm still technically #gentoo staff :P |
| 22:29.36 | [machine] | no... you gone through the devcon report yet? |
| 22:29.36 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: yep |
| 22:29.38 | RichiH | mbishop: a look at the ban list tells me otherwise |
| 22:29.48 | dany | no @ | ... |
| 22:29.48 | Maulkin | [machine]: Blackmail! :) |
| 22:30.03 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: I'm not sure what to suggest, apart from "use debian packages" |
| 22:30.10 | mbishop | RichiH: they usually only do it from #gentoo-ops, but htey remove them quickly usually heh |
| 22:30.24 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: PHP is installed and working, and so I'm not sure where you got those apps from |
| 22:30.40 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: I think i'm just going to wipe everything out and start fresh |
| 22:30.43 | Maulkin | [machine]: It's on my TODO for tomorrow :) |
| 22:31.00 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Could be a good idea. And this time, use debian packages only |
| 22:31.09 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: Unless you know what you#re doing |
| 22:31.25 | mutante | finn: now i got deboostrap on the Suse box, time to convert it ;) |
| 22:31.26 | Maulkin | jeeves_Moss: That's not only from an ease of use point of view, but a secuirty one too. |
| 22:31.42 | jeeves_Moss | Maulkin: thanks again for your help. I've got a lot of work to do when I get home. |
| 22:31.54 | Maulkin | No probs |
| 22:32.08 | Maulkin | Oh, he's gone |
| 22:32.26 | RichiH | mbishop: well, could be. but as quite a few of gentoo ops are freenode staff, i do not think that can last long |
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| 22:32.38 | RichiH | i do not know one way or the other, though |
| 22:32.41 | UncleSkunk | woofta thought I was stuck in another channel forever.. anyone know how to switch between channels in bitchx? |
| 22:33.08 | [machine] | uncle: /join #<otherchannel> |
| 22:33.38 | RichiH | how can i get german umlauts on an us keyboard, btw? |
| 22:33.42 | mbishop | RichiH: heh, actually I've seen some staff do it heh, but they usually don't, and try not to cause trouble |
| 22:33.46 | brammator | how to use scp through script? do i need to generate some ssh keyfiles? |
| 22:33.58 | dimir | UncleSkunk: Ctrl+x |
| 22:34.20 | wols_ | ue is right of p |
| 22:34.23 | [machine] | bram: are the scripts meant to be automated? |
| 22:34.31 | wols_ | oe and ae are right of l |
| 22:34.37 | UncleSkunk | doesn't Ctrl+X quit? |
| 22:34.38 | liable | brammator: yeah and ssh agent |
| 22:34.40 | mutante | RichiH: maybe setxkbmap de |
| 22:34.41 | wols_ | apart from that: germayn keyboard settings :) |
| 22:34.44 | dimir | UncleSkunk: no |
| 22:34.56 | [machine] | mut: nono... sshagent is a sick perversion |
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| 22:35.02 | wols_ | or I can paste them in here and you can copy them :) |
| 22:35.02 | RichiH | mutante: i do not want to switch back, just enter some keycode or sth |
| 22:35.06 | DAaaMan64 | does anyone use KMPlayer? |
| 22:35.22 | UncleSkunk | dimir, thanks mate |
| 22:35.34 | RichiH | normally, i write my email and stuff without umlauts, but sometimes in the more official ones, you need to use the real ones |
| 22:35.49 | RichiH | and i do now want to switch back and forth just for that |
| 22:35.50 | wols_ | Copy +paste then |
| 22:35.55 | brammator | liable: can you help me with that? |
| 22:36.05 | dimir | UncleSkunk: if you mean switching between channels on one window, then it's Ctrl+x, if every channel for a window, then you need switching between windows, that's Alt+1, Alt+2, and so on. |
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| 22:36.07 | VolVE | ok, so if I'm trying to remove a device from fstab, but root / is on an LVM, how would I activate that LVM and get into /etc from a live cd (in this case, grml)... :-/ |
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| 22:36.08 | dimir | UncleSkunk: np |
| 22:36.10 | brammator | [machine] yes |
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| 22:36.50 | liable | brammator: sec, iirc theres a good tute for it somewhere |
| 22:37.10 | [machine] | bram: then yes... ssh-keygen... and make sure you permit only the necessary commands |
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| 22:37.42 | HAMM3R | debian wont boot. it freezes at a message about the USB controller. i fixed this before by adding something to the end of the command in the grub boot manager. can anyone tell me what that is? |
| 22:37.48 | HAMM3R | please |
| 22:38.17 | liable | brammator: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/152 |
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| 22:38.30 | dimir | what was it that you added, what was it about? |
| 22:38.54 | brammator | liable: thank you! |
| 22:41.03 | liable | HAMM3R: nousb ?? |
| 22:41.10 | HAMM3R | no |
| 22:41.17 | HAMM3R | i need usb |
| 22:41.20 | HAMM3R | it wasnt that |
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| 22:41.29 | HAMM3R | i remember is being something that's also in the bios |
| 22:41.32 | VolVE | So anybody have an idea how to mount an LVM device in rescue mode? :-/ |
| 22:41.38 | DAaaMan64 | does mencoder have a gui? |
| 22:42.31 | DAaaMan64 | Maulkin: thanks a lot :/ |
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| 22:43.23 | liable | HAMM3R: take your pick .. http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/question/static/linux-kernel-parameters.php |
| 22:44.11 | HAMM3R | rofl |
| 22:44.15 | HAMM3R | i better get reading |
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| 22:44.26 | UncleSkunk | If I "stop" something and do BG +1. how do I get back to it? also does it hurt anything to keep it stopped for periods of time? |
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| 22:44.53 | dimir | UncleSkunk: fg - to get back |
| 22:45.25 | dimir | UncleSkunk: shouldn't hurt anything, unless some timeout is involved. |
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| 22:45.57 | UncleSkunk | awesome I didn't want to stop screw it up.. thanks again mate |
| 22:46.08 | dimir | np |
| 22:46.10 | UncleSkunk | wow totally missed a complete word |
| 22:46.23 | phogg | someone taking a telegram? |
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| 22:46.40 | UncleSkunk | heh |
| 22:47.50 | yggdrasil | how do i make grub grab a kernel image from a usb storeage ? |
| 22:47.54 | yggdrasil | (sd0,0) ? |
| 22:48.00 | innit_0 | Maulkin, did u get to the bottom of the problem? |
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| 22:48.42 | \Igor\ | i'm trying to do a netinst on a new machine with a SATA-II hard drive, unfortunately, try as I might, I can't get Debian Installer to recognize the drive |
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| 22:49.15 | \Igor\ | any tips appreciated... special d-i boot options, special d-i images... anything |
| 22:49.20 | phogg | my fancy new-to-me ldap server seems to like dropping the network connection every hour or two. |
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| 22:50.09 | phogg | I'm thinking that if I replace the hard drive it will fix that. Eliminating disk errors is bound to improve stuff |
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| 22:51.07 | \Igor\ | hmm... if I try to load the libata and sata_uli modules manually, I get no error messages but the HD is still not recognized |
| 22:51.15 | powergoal | how do I get my clock to reset since the daylights savings time change? |
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| 22:52.04 | jauip | Hi |
| 22:52.06 | jauip | What is the way to use a htpasswd before webmin auth? |
| 22:52.29 | liable | \Igor\: can you run the controller in legacy pata mode from bios? |
| 22:52.39 | wols_ | jauip: google .htaccess |
| 22:52.54 | liable | \Igor\: if you can, then install and upgrade kernel later |
| 22:53.10 | jauip | wols_ yes, but webmin uses its own |
| 22:53.13 | liable | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 22:53.13 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 22:53.15 | jauip | no idea how to put it :( |
| 22:53.20 | liable | \Igor\: or try that ^^ |
| 22:53.27 | jauip | I have /etc/webmin/.htacces |
| 22:53.54 | wols_ | then add your passw stuff tot hat htaccess |
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| 22:54.36 | \Igor\ | liable: thanks, but I don't remember seeing a clear "legacy mode" option in the bios |
| 22:54.38 | jauip | wols_: yes I have this, but I only see webmin prompt :( |
| 22:55.08 | \Igor\ | liable: i'm using the amd64 d-i daily build, it's also has kernel version 2.6.15 |
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| 22:55.18 | liable | \Igor\: oh. |
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| 22:56.44 | omi | Hello, I installed vlc package on unstable, but I'm only getting the text console version. What has happened to the GUI frontend? |
| 22:56.44 | Xenguy | !info automount |
| 22:56.48 | Xenguy | sorry |
| 22:57.00 | \Igor\ | liable: what I don't understand is why there is not even an attempt to load the libata modules on boot up, at least as far as I can glance from the dmesg log |
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| 22:58.23 | liable | \Igor\: the controller is supposed to be supported? |
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| 23:01.12 | \Igor\ | liable: still an open question :-) |
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| 23:01.50 | Lurzino | hello everyone.... |
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| 23:03.00 | liable | \Igor\: google the lspci output for it |
| 23:03.09 | Lurzino | I have a laptop with a pcmcia card cisco aironet 350...just installing Debian Sarge 3.1r1 and, even I have settled the wifi IP and stuffs, at ping to the gateway AP, it says ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available |
| 23:03.13 | Lurzino | what does that mean? |
| 23:03.50 | speedy | is it easy to crack non shadoweded /etc/passwd file using DES crypt? |
| 23:03.50 | Lurzino | shouldn't be "no route to host" or "packet ......."? |
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| 23:04.03 | DAaaMan64 | best video editing software for linux???? |
| 23:04.19 | phogg | DAaaMan64: depends on what you define as best |
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| 23:04.31 | \Igor\ | liable: what am I looking for? none of it says "SATA controller" |
| 23:04.40 | DAaaMan64 | phogg: cut a avi file up for me. |
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| 23:04.44 | phogg | DAaaMan64: diva looks nice, but at 0.1 one there are bound to be problems. And who knows for sure what features work? |
| 23:05.00 | phogg | DAaaMan64: for that I recommend command line tools |
| 23:05.06 | DAaaMan64 | phogg: I will try it, what else is there? |
| 23:05.54 | liable | \Igor\: one of the controllers that isnt usb etherney etc, it may be unknown. |
| 23:05.56 | phogg | DAaaMan64: lots of stuff |
| 23:06.02 | DAaaMan64 | ok |
| 23:06.11 | phogg | DAaaMan64: google will yield several answers with minimal effort |
| 23:06.16 | liable | avidemux? |
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| 23:06.36 | bwlang | mkfs.msdos says "failed whilst writing reserved sector" ... google's not much help - any idea what to do about this? |
| 23:06.54 | wols | DAaaMan64: mainactor (payware) |
| 23:07.07 | liable | DAaaMan64: should get yu started .. http://www.linuxartist.org/video-anim.html |
| 23:07.12 | DAaaMan64 | wols_: thank you. |
| 23:07.19 | DAaaMan64 | liable: thank you. |
| 23:07.21 | wols | DAaaMan64: kino |
| 23:07.34 | DAaaMan64 | wols_: kino is one? |
| 23:07.54 | wols | from what I can read here: yes. |
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| 23:08.24 | wols | DAaaMan64: cinelerra |
| 23:08.43 | DAaaMan64 | wols_: yes I am looking at that, have to figure out how to get it, thanks :) |
| 23:09.11 | plbgnr | what should I do after editing /etc/fstab to apply changes? |
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| 23:09.46 | wols | plbgnr: mount -a |
| 23:10.20 | plbgnr | wols thanks |
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| 23:13.54 | llaurator | hola |
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| 23:14.15 | launch | hi what is linspire please |
| 23:14.37 | Gnea | launch: a distribution of linux |
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| 23:15.25 | phogg | a really bad distribution |
| 23:16.11 | launch | why |
| 23:16.25 | mbishop | they charge for their packages |
| 23:16.30 | gravity | launch: Why are you asking in here? |
| 23:16.51 | launch | why not |
| 23:17.02 | gravity | launch: Because this is #debian. Not #linspire. |
| 23:17.09 | UncleSkunk | so I just did "apt-get dist-upgrade", do I have to do any kind of dpkg thing? and should Have I used the -b option? |
| 23:17.12 | launch | linspire is based on debian |
| 23:17.18 | gravity | !based on debian |
| 23:17.18 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 23:17.19 | phogg | launch: you'll get more objective opinion in a neutral channel, such as ##linux |
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| 23:18.01 | unix_infidel | where does firefox store the info from about:config |
| 23:18.05 | gravity | UncleSkunk: No, you shouldn't have to do anything with dpkg |
| 23:18.11 | unix_infidel | i messed up somehow on setting a string variable and now it wont start. |
| 23:18.14 | unix_infidel | even in safe mode |
| 23:18.32 | unix_infidel | it will start when i mv the .mozilla folder though, any ideas? |
| 23:18.35 | gravity | firefox has a safe mode? |
| 23:18.42 | phogg | gravity: -safemode |
| 23:18.52 | phogg | gravity: aka no extensions, no plugins |
| 23:18.57 | gravity | Wow, spiffy |
| 23:19.05 | unix_infidel | lol, so i'm wondering where i can find the old about:config file source. |
| 23:19.09 | phogg | unix_infidel: sounds like a job for #firefox |
| 23:19.18 | unix_infidel | so i can mv it and it can create a new one without loosing all my settings. |
| 23:19.22 | UncleSkunk | so everything so be down that after apt-get? suppose I should apt-get check.. |
| 23:19.34 | phogg | gravity: it's the windows of bloated apps. I don't think emacs has a safe mode |
| 23:19.41 | gravity | heh |
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| 23:19.55 | UncleSkunk | damn My english is horrible.. and its all I speak :( |
| 23:19.55 | Pegger | anyone going to linux world tomorrow |
| 23:20.21 | innit_0 | UncleSkunk, LOL |
| 23:20.26 | gravity | Pegger: No time |
| 23:20.32 | gravity | And Debian got shafted this year. No booth. |
| 23:20.51 | gravity | Pegger: If you go, yell at the organizers for being fucktards and not giving Debian a booth |
| 23:20.53 | phogg | gravity: so hang out at the Uuntu booth and claim that it's the same thing. |
| 23:20.53 | Pegger | gravity, that is to bad, where has all your time gone |
| 23:20.57 | gravity | phogg: Fuck that |
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| 23:21.04 | gravity | Pegger: Work |
| 23:21.09 | Pegger | gravity, how are booth decited |
| 23:21.27 | gravity | Pegger: I don't know. They have some new system that apparently isn't working so well |
| 23:21.33 | Pegger | gravity, what kind of work do you do |
| 23:21.38 | gravity | Pegger: Biology |
| 23:22.03 | Pegger | you cant not give one of the oldest distros a booth |
| 23:22.14 | gravity | They did |
| 23:22.21 | Pegger | will luckly work is letting me leave early to go check it out |
| 23:22.32 | gravity | If I had time, I'd go on wednesday, but I just can't |
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| 23:22.40 | gravity | I may go to afterparties if they're around though |
| 23:22.43 | Pegger | why wensday |
| 23:22.49 | gravity | X.Org hackfest day |
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| 23:23.01 | gravity | Something most people don't care about :-) |
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| 23:23.36 | Pegger | gravity, what do they do at the hack fest, hack the code? |
| 23:23.41 | gravity | That'd be the plan |
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| 23:23.48 | gravity | Although in reality I'd probably just keep doing what I usually do |
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| 23:24.46 | gravity | But I have a project or two that I could work on |
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| 23:24.54 | UX | Salut |
| 23:25.05 | UncleSkunk | there a way to switch user without logging out? |
| 23:25.13 | gravity | UncleSkunk: su "username" |
| 23:25.20 | Pegger | UncleSkunk, su |
| 23:25.41 | UncleSkunk | thanks |
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| 23:32.30 | ri0t | hi |
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| 23:32.53 | ri0t | how can i install grub on a secondary hd of another box in a living debian? |
| 23:34.16 | spiritz | I'm having a conflict between ACPI and HAL; they both want to open /proc/acpi/event. Why is HAL doing that? |
| 23:34.20 | magyar | looking for a web-based DNS solution. Not webmin, it has no ACL's |
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| 23:36.00 | adlpaf | Hi everyone!!! I need the debian-64 canel |
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| 23:37.02 | adlpaf | Hi everyone!!! I need the debian-64 channel |
| 23:37.12 | adlpaf | who knows it??? |
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| 23:38.50 | kingspawn | ehehhee |
| 23:38.53 | kingspawn | yes who knows it |
| 23:38.55 | kingspawn | perhaps god |
| 23:38.58 | bowman | heya :) about crypto filesystems: is there any one in between the many that allows me to encrypt an existing partition? |
| 23:39.03 | magyar | adlpaf: debian-amd64 |
| 23:39.19 | adlpaf | magyar, thanks!!! |
| 23:39.22 | pingouin | is there any limit of mo/go for a file on ext3 ? |
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| 23:43.00 | submarineshaun | how do i set up a usb floppy drive to my laptop? im running sarge 2.4 kernel, and pluggin in and 'mke2fs /dev/fd0' doesnt work |
| 23:43.49 | liable | submarineshaun: what did dmesg say about it? |
| 23:44.28 | submarineshaun | it said: floppy0: no floppy controlers found |
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| 23:44.50 | liable | submarineshaun: when you plugged it in. |
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| 23:45.06 | submarineshaun | oh |
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| 23:45.49 | submarineshaun | new usb device 00:1d.0-1 assigned address 3 |
| 23:46.10 | liable | submarineshaun: thats it? |
| 23:46.12 | submarineshaun | USB Mass storage device found at 3 |
| 23:46.43 | submarineshaun | inserting floppy driver for 2.4.7-2-386 |
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| 23:46.59 | submarineshaun | t5hats it, just the no controllers then |
| 23:47.50 | submarineshaun | thats* |
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| 23:48.36 | duxbarak | does the debian package of qemu support use of the kqemu accelerator? |
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| 23:48.59 | liable | submarineshaun: hrm, it says the driver is loaded. |
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| 23:50.58 | submarineshaun | i know, but mke2fs /dev/fd0 (as root) |
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| 23:51.37 | submarineshaun | no such device or address while trying to determin filesystem size |
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| 23:53.30 | submarineshaun | im not sure whats wrong, tho there doesnt seem to be any active on my floppy drive (no lights or motor) |
| 23:53.35 | duxbarak | has anyone ever used bachs or qemu? which is better for VMing windows xp in order to use winamp? |
| 23:54.13 | liable | duxbarak: why not use xmms? |
| 23:54.30 | duxbarak | i like winamp 5 |
| 23:54.53 | duxbarak | and a few other windows programs too |
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| 23:55.34 | resiak | If you like your computer to be usable, you will either need qemu with the non-free kernel module or a copy of vmware |
| 23:55.39 | freeone3000 | duxbarak: I would use either Wine or Cedega myself. Note: Cedega is NOT free! |
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| 23:56.06 | freeone3000 | Not real expensive. |
| 23:56.08 | freeone3000 | But not free. |
| 23:56.11 | resiak | cvscedega is Free |
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| 23:57.12 | thinkl00p | i just tried setting up BNBT its not a .deb package though, in the src folder of it, i have no configure file or nothing.. any idea how to compile it? |
| 23:57.14 | Phlosten | morning all |
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| 23:57.21 | duxbarak | ok, thanks |
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| 23:57.44 | submarineshaun | any ideas on the floppy problem? note I cant mount either (/dev/fd0, not a valid block device) |
| 23:57.53 | liable | thinkl00p: there is no install.txt or readme? |
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| 23:57.57 | prolific | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.14 | thinkl00p | liable: all it says it Before using the tracker, you must compile its source in |
| 23:58.14 | thinkl00p | the /bnbt/src directory and copy the executable to /bnbt |
| 23:58.26 | thinkl00p | so how would i compile the source? |
| 23:58.41 | freeone3000 | make |
| 23:58.44 | liable | is there a makefile? |
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| 23:58.49 | thinkl00p | yeah |
| 23:58.53 | thinkl00p | i did that but got an error |
| 23:59.01 | freeone3000 | And that error would be...? |
| 23:59.06 | thinkl00p | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz |
| 23:59.06 | thinkl00p | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 23:59.06 | thinkl00p | make: *** [bnbt] Error 1 |
| 23:59.19 | freeone3000 | Ah. Try ./configure |
| 23:59.34 | Phlosten | i just installed a basic debian install, and have setup xmms for mp3's but i am having issues with mp3's 'skipping' so to speak, any ideas on how to fix? |
