| 00:00.17 | beardy | thinkl00p: The usual way is; './configure' 'make' 'make install' (but make sure you know where it puts things before you run make install, and see if there is an uninstall option available) |
| 00:00.21 | duxbarak | can i use the debian package for qemu with the non-free kqemu kernel module? |
| 00:00.48 | freeone3000 | Phlosten: CHeck cpu load, run xmms with a higher priority. |
| 00:00.52 | beardy | thinkl00p: And always do this in /usr/local/src, or your homedirectory as a regular user. |
| 00:01.37 | thinkl00p | so what if there's no ./configure |
| 00:01.37 | thinkl00p | ? |
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| 00:01.57 | beardy | thinkl00p: Then you have to edit the Makefile yourself. |
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| 00:02.29 | beardy | thinkl00p: But if it doesn't even come with an README, or INSTALL file, I wouldn't bother with it at all.. |
| 00:02.45 | thinkl00p | its a torrent tracker |
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| 00:03.03 | ale_ryu | hey, are there any http sites for updating via apt? |
| 00:03.43 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: what do you mean? |
| 00:03.47 | Phlosten | freeone3000, cheers, will try |
| 00:04.12 | aphexer | when i do apt-get dist-upgrade it says all up to date, however when i run aptitude it wants to delete about 100 packages, how is this possible? |
| 00:05.03 | syntaxis | aphexer: does it say "are unused and will be removed"? |
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| 00:05.45 | quik_ | hey folks |
| 00:05.47 | xomhau | hi * |
| 00:05.54 | thinkl00p | beardy: when you said your have to edit the makefile yourself.. what do you mean? |
| 00:06.04 | ale_ryu | There was a blackout last night when I was updating my system and my machine didn't finish configuring all the packages. I ran apt-get -f install and dpkg's equivalent and they seemed to finish the configuration, but now I cannot connect to ftp sites anymore or hotmail.com...It's weird, my guess is that there's been a problem with one of the internet related packages(duh) but I need some ftp mirrors to get apt to work again |
| 00:06.07 | quik_ | is cron still the best way to schedule events on a debian box? |
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| 00:06.31 | beardy | thinkl00p: Exactly what I said, use your $EDITOR and edit the file, if you have to, and if you get errors, you have to. |
| 00:06.49 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: ftp.uk.debian.org is also accessible via http |
| 00:06.55 | gravity | quik_: There's a zillion cron-alikes I think |
| 00:07.02 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: I guess most of the main mirrors support both |
| 00:07.08 | beardy | quik_: Yes. And what gravity said. |
| 00:07.13 | aphexer | syntaxis: indeed unused and will be removed |
| 00:07.16 | quik_ | cron is good, though? |
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| 00:07.21 | xomhau | i want to transparency a window? which tools can i use? |
| 00:07.27 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: and if http still works, why not just check out debian's mirror list for yourself |
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| 00:07.42 | gravity | quik_: Sure. Tried and true. |
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| 00:07.47 | ale_ryu | I checked, but they're all ftps apparently |
| 00:07.53 | beardy | quik_: For me it is, do you have problems with it? |
| 00:07.55 | ale_ryu | maybe there are some unlisted mirrors there |
| 00:07.55 | mathrick | hi, is there a way to get a file out of NEW (http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html)? |
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| 00:08.09 | quik_ | beardy: I've never used it actually. |
| 00:08.09 | infinity_ | anyone know how to do recursive zgrep? |
| 00:08.14 | mathrick | or is not getting it the very reason of NEW's existence? |
| 00:08.18 | syntaxis | aphexer: the easiest way to fix it is to invoke aptitude's ncurses interface and just manually mark them as to be kept |
| 00:08.24 | quik_ | I want to setup a script to backup all my svn repositries |
| 00:08.49 | beardy | quik_: Ok. 'man 5 crontab', 'man 1 crontab', 'man 1 cron'. |
| 00:08.55 | mathrick | infinity_: zgrep -R ? |
| 00:09.02 | quik_ | Thanks beardy |
| 00:09.04 | aphexer | syntaxis: it really are over a 100 packages... |
| 00:09.13 | aphexer | syntaxis: how did it happen? |
| 00:09.27 | syntaxis | aphexer: try feeding the list of packages to aptitude as arguments for "aptitude install" |
| 00:09.28 | mathrick | infinity_: "All options specified are passed directly to grep." |
| 00:10.13 | syntaxis | aphexer: because it doesn't share a database with apt-get; thus, it thinks that any packages that weren't installed by it (or dragged in as dependencies) are cruft |
| 00:10.17 | syntaxis | aphexer: (I believe) |
| 00:10.33 | syntaxis | aphexer: it = aptitude |
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| 00:10.59 | aphexer | syntaxis: so i better either choose apt-get to install my packages or aptitude, but not use them both? |
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| 00:11.16 | beardy | quik_: Use my crontab example/template if you wish, http://cyberspace.org/~beardy/mycrontab.txt |
| 00:11.20 | syntaxis | aphexer: yes |
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| 00:11.51 | syntaxis | aphexer: it might as well be aptitude, since "aptitude dist-upgrade" is now the only supported method for upgrading between distributions |
| 00:11.52 | ale_ryu | okay, no solution for me I guess... |
| 00:11.55 | quik_ | great example beardy |
| 00:11.59 | infinity_ | mathrick: that is actually not true. because zgrep -ri doesn't work. it appears -R works though. thanks for that.i'll look further |
| 00:12.02 | ale_ryu | thanks anyways! |
| 00:12.07 | ale_ryu | bye! |
| 00:12.20 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: lol - you haven't explained your problem fully |
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| 00:12.35 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: can you not browse the web at all? |
| 00:12.36 | mathrick | okay, so what about NEW? |
| 00:12.38 | mathrick | anyone? |
| 00:12.42 | xomhau | which tools for transparency a window? |
| 00:12.57 | ne78 | Is there a debian application to manage podcasts, (debian unstable), what do you use ? |
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| 00:13.03 | aphexer | syntaxis: oh i just did a apt-get dist-upgrade.. (that's not supported??) |
| 00:13.35 | gravity | xomhau: transset |
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| 00:13.58 | gravity | xomhau: It's currently only in experimental though |
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| 00:14.22 | syntaxis | aphexer: check http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html for yourself |
| 00:14.37 | aphexer | syntaxis: k thanks |
| 00:14.45 | syntaxis | aphexer: it may still work, but it's not the recommended path since it's no longer considered the best tool for the job |
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| 00:14.48 | xomhau | gravity, thank , but i don't finded this programm |
| 00:14.51 | ale_ryu | I can browse the web |
| 00:15.08 | ale_ryu | but I can't enter certain sites or ftps |
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| 00:15.19 | ale_ryu | oh! aMSN doesn't work anymore either... |
| 00:15.28 | gravity | xomhau: Like I said, it's in experimental |
| 00:15.39 | fede | hi all |
| 00:16.00 | fede | i'm trying to install grub in a SATA hdd |
| 00:16.07 | ale_ryu | and I think I can't explain my problem better than my previous blackout ish explanation... |
| 00:16.07 | fede | but error 17 |
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| 00:16.43 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: it sounds like something on your system has been corrupted |
| 00:16.57 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: one sec |
| 00:17.07 | litage | if there are no firewalls preventing me from ssh'ing into a box and my cisco router isn't saying that it's denying anything, where else should i look to find out what's blocking access? |
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| 00:17.16 | ale_ryu | yup, that's what I'm guessing, that's why I'm trying to reconfigure everything via and apt-get dist upgrade |
| 00:17.49 | ale_ryu | I found a working mirror! |
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| 00:18.51 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: I believe the debsigs-verify package may allow you to check which files on your system have been corrupted |
| 00:19.48 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: make that debsig_verify |
| 00:20.03 | ale_ryu | okay thanks! |
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| 00:20.50 | ale_ryu | I don't have that debsig thingy.... |
| 00:20.51 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: I'm wrong, it's the debsums package, sorry |
| 00:20.57 | ale_ryu | ok |
| 00:21.20 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: have you found a mirror that works for you, yet? |
| 00:21.45 | ale_ryu | but the problem is not of corrupted packages, it's corrupted packages configuration... that one checks the package integrity... |
| 00:22.00 | ale_ryu | yup |
| 00:22.10 | ale_ryu | found one in my own country! |
| 00:22.38 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: if you're sure that's the problem, you can run "dpkg-reconfigure --all" |
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| 00:23.11 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: many packages ship config files within themselves |
| 00:23.16 | ale_ryu | done that... |
| 00:23.26 | UncleSkunk | when I type "top" I get that list. and there all root but one says daemon. is that normal? |
| 00:23.58 | ale_ryu | gonna try again anyways |
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| 00:24.11 | submarineshaun | floppy0: no floppy controllers found. What could this mean? im trying to get my externall usb floppy drive working |
| 00:24.15 | syntaxis | ale_ryu: it checks the package integrity by comparing the md5sum of every file on the system with what it is supposed to be... that will find corrupted files, too |
| 00:24.26 | submarineshaun | I get activity when i plug it in, and dmesg shows it being detected |
| 00:24.39 | kritical | Does anyone know how to start vnc over gdm? |
| 00:25.00 | ale_ryu | okay thanks |
| 00:25.14 | ale_ryu | im dpkg-reconfiguring all |
| 00:25.17 | ale_ryu | again |
| 00:25.20 | ale_ryu | just in case |
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| 00:26.14 | dcpro | ..... |
| 00:26.31 | submarineshaun | but mounting and mke2fs all complain about either "not a vaild block device" or "no such device or address" |
| 00:26.40 | submarineshaun | no activity with thoose commands. |
| 00:27.21 | beardy | submarineshaun: which device are you trying to use? |
| 00:27.31 | submarineshaun | external usb floppy drive |
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| 00:27.41 | beardy | submarineshaun: Which /dev device? |
| 00:27.43 | submarineshaun | it gets detected ok and floppy drivers are loaded |
| 00:27.53 | submarineshaun | i thought it was /dev/fd0, but im not 100% sure |
| 00:28.22 | submarineshaun | someone suggested /dev/sdX but thoose dont work, and its not at fd1 either |
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| 00:28.54 | beardy | submarineshaun: So which one did you use when that floppy0: error message occured? |
| 00:29.02 | submarineshaun | fd0 |
| 00:29.19 | submarineshaun | thats a dmesg. |
| 00:29.27 | beardy | submarineshaun: See if there is a device named floppy, or appropriate, under /dev/usb/ |
| 00:29.33 | submarineshaun | ok, ty |
| 00:30.06 | submarineshaun | no there isnt |
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| 00:30.40 | beardy | submarineshaun: DO you have a device named floppy0? |
| 00:31.05 | submarineshaun | in /dev/usb? no |
| 00:31.10 | submarineshaun | in /dev, letme check |
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| 00:31.35 | submarineshaun | nope |
| 00:32.02 | void | Here's an odd one... I built a raid device /dev/md0 out of 4 disk drives sd[abcd]1. I used partition type fd (linux raid auto). Then I created a volume group vg00 and built five logical volumes. Cool. Everything worked great until I reboot. |
| 00:32.15 | bucky | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.26 | submarineshaun | aye, thats there |
| 00:32.43 | void | Now, the volume group comes up as active with sda1 and the raid device comes up degraded without sda1. |
| 00:32.47 | void | is that odd or what? |
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| 00:33.10 | beardy | submarineshaun: But that message you got says something is not right, is the right module(s) loaded, your drive supported, and so on? |
| 00:33.23 | void | I can't even find where lvm's are started in init. |
| 00:33.44 | submarineshaun | i believe so |
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| 00:33.50 | submarineshaun | I have a new message now |
| 00:34.34 | submarineshaun | devfs_mk_dir(floppy): using old entry in dir: c12a620 " " |
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| 00:35.09 | submarineshaun | right before the "no controllers" message |
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| 00:36.07 | submarineshaun | ideas? |
| 00:36.36 | beardy | submarineshaun: which command do you use to test it, exactly? |
| 00:37.05 | submarineshaun | ive being doing cat /dev/fd0, to see if theres any activity |
| 00:37.14 | submarineshaun | but the same occurs with a mount of mke2fs |
| 00:37.19 | submarineshaun | or* |
| 00:37.24 | fidget | does anyone here know of a way to dump .gif and .jpg files from a .cap from airodump? |
| 00:37.40 | beardy | submarineshaun: You have to format it to be able to make a filesystem on the floppy. |
| 00:38.02 | submarineshaun | aye, but its not finding the floppy |
| 00:38.03 | beardy | submarineshaun: Unless the floppy already is formatted, and without a filesystem. |
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| 00:38.24 | submarineshaun | theres already a fs on the floppy i have in the drive, but i cant mount it |
| 00:38.35 | bucky | submarineshaun: which fs ? |
| 00:38.39 | beardy | submarineshaun: Put a floppy in, with nothing important on, or empty, 'fdformat /def/fd0u1440' what happens? |
| 00:39.00 | beardy | s/def/dev/ |
| 00:39.17 | kritical | Does anyone know how to run gdm over vncserver? |
| 00:39.29 | submarineshaun | no such device or address |
| 00:39.47 | bucky | mount -t <fs type> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy |
| 00:40.22 | void | kritical: why would you want to do that? Can't you just use a regular Xserver for windows? |
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| 00:40.37 | kritical | void: because I don't have a monitor =( |
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| 00:40.55 | submarineshaun | '/dev/fd0 is not a vaild block device |
| 00:41.12 | submarineshaun | no activity on the drive (lights/motor) etc |
| 00:41.17 | bucky | submarineshaun: is there a floppy in the drive? |
| 00:41.21 | submarineshaun | yes |
| 00:41.23 | void | kritical: tricky... Not sure how to launch a display manager without a display. |
| 00:41.29 | submarineshaun | ive tryed several |
| 00:41.35 | bucky | submarineshaun: is this some udev trick question? |
| 00:41.35 | beardy | submarineshaun: Is the drive connected? |
| 00:41.43 | beardy | Probably. |
| 00:41.46 | submarineshaun | yep; tryed diffrent ports |
| 00:42.12 | submarineshaun | bucky: what do you mean by that? |
| 00:42.23 | void | kritical: you can't just launch per-user vncserver's? |
| 00:42.27 | bucky | submarineshaun: which version of debian are you using? |
| 00:42.34 | submarineshaun | sarge 31r1 |
| 00:42.45 | submarineshaun | with a standerd 2.4 kernel |
| 00:42.47 | kritical | void: I'm doing that currently... synaptic wont run on desktop :1 ..... |
| 00:42.50 | submarineshaun | no recompiles, no nothing |
| 00:43.10 | void | synaptic? |
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| 00:43.43 | beardy | submarineshaun: Not that is should matter, but you could try a 2.6 kernel, it might have better/more USB support. |
| 00:43.44 | seph | wow. Is gnome 2.14 already approaching unstable? :o |
| 00:43.45 | kritical | void: It's a gui interface for apt |
| 00:43.50 | seph | or is it just me? |
| 00:43.57 | submarineshaun | beardy: ok |
| 00:43.59 | submarineshaun | ty |
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| 00:45.24 | void | kritical: i'm suprised that it would matter... If it's a Xclient applicaiton it shouldn't care what Xserver it talks to. |
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| 00:45.51 | liable | kritical: some pointers in this list .. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/04/msg03392.html |
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| 00:46.08 | ubuntu | hi |
| 00:46.10 | ubuntu | people |
| 00:46.15 | seph | Question: Is gnome 2.14 on it's way into unstable already? |
| 00:46.23 | ubuntu | helo |
| 00:46.23 | OliverKlozoff | 250 OliverKlozoff |
| 00:46.26 | mbishop | pretty sure it's already there |
| 00:46.31 | ubuntu | can i ask a question |
| 00:46.36 | beardy | !ask |
| 00:46.36 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 00:46.37 | ubuntu | people |
| 00:46.38 | seph | don't ask to ask. just ask |
| 00:46.45 | ubuntu | heheh |
| 00:46.56 | beardy | ubuntu: Are you running Ubuntu? |
| 00:47.07 | ubuntu | were i can find more sample codes of gambas programming labguage |
| 00:47.11 | gravity | seph: Yes, it is |
| 00:47.22 | ubuntu | i'am using ubuntu |
| 00:47.25 | ubuntu | 5.10 |
| 00:47.28 | beardy | ubuntu: Search the web. |
| 00:47.29 | seph | Amazing. That's faster than ubuntu! |
| 00:47.33 | ubuntu | gambas works fine for me |
| 00:47.39 | beardy | ubuntu: /join #ubuntu |
| 00:47.45 | beardy | ubuntu: Read the topic. |
| 00:48.15 | nvz | time for bed.. no money, and none to be made |
| 00:48.46 | seph | +down |
| 00:48.52 | void | Can anyone help me make my raid device start at boot time? I have the partition types set to 0xfd (linux raid auto). But, md0 doesn't get started at boot time. |
| 00:50.01 | submarineshaun | ok, so iupgrade to 2.6 |
| 00:50.25 | submarineshaun | slightly diffrent message; special device /dev/fd0 does not exist |
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| 00:51.18 | submarineshaun | now dmesg is talking about scsi |
| 00:51.29 | simonrvn | ls -l /dev/fd0. did that yet? |
| 00:52.08 | submarineshaun | good guess; no such file or directory |
| 00:52.14 | submarineshaun | how do i creat eit? |
| 00:52.19 | nvz | man MAKEDEV |
| 00:52.21 | bucky | submarineshaun: does floppycontrol -pP --printfdcstate output anything? |
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| 00:53.13 | submarineshaun | cant open floppy drive: no such file or directory |
| 00:53.18 | beardy | nvz: Isn't that what udev and the like are for? |
| 00:53.28 | simonrvn | "does not exist" is rather indicative ;) |
| 00:54.23 | submarineshaun | ive run MAKEDEV, still no /dev/fd0 |
| 00:54.39 | liable | makedev what?? did you read the man page? |
| 00:54.42 | beardy | submarineshaun: He said to read the manual, not run it. |
| 00:54.44 | submarineshaun | yes |
| 00:55.00 | simonrvn | read more |
| 00:55.16 | seph | reading is good for the muscles |
| 00:55.22 | seph | no wait... |
| 00:55.52 | submarineshaun | i did a makedev generic |
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| 00:58.59 | submarineshaun | i give up |
| 00:59.04 | seph | i win! |
| 00:59.07 | submarineshaun | ill work on this some more in the morning |
| 00:59.11 | submarineshaun | night |
| 00:59.18 | seph | n |
| 01:00.04 | bucky | dpkg -l fdutils |
| 01:00.05 | dpkg | ii fdutils 2.5-15 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 01:01.48 | liable | void: mdadm must be running if it says its a degraded array, no? |
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| 01:02.30 | void | liable: It does this after I tell mdadm to start the array manually. |
| 01:02.38 | void | liable: it does not start at boot time. |
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| 01:02.50 | xomhau | re hi* |
| 01:02.57 | liable | void: oh. is it in /etc/rcS.d? |
| 01:03.17 | xomhau | how to detect ati radeon x700? |
| 01:03.25 | void | liable: nevermind. i think i found it. in /etc/defaults/mdadm there is an AUTOSTART=fals. dumb. |
| 01:03.33 | Kovecses | xomhau: install the drivers |
| 01:03.37 | liable | void: heh |
| 01:04.25 | void | liable: i always thought that the kernel would start a raid array independant of mdadm if it detected the 0xfd partition type. |
| 01:04.48 | void | i've actually had this happen on other installations |
| 01:05.23 | void | mdadm isn't actually needed to run the software array, that's all done in kernel space, mdadm just turns it on. |
| 01:06.09 | roby | uhm, not to be a sore thumb or anything, but why is it that the stable still is still with older packages? Is like php5, mysql5 and OOo2 that non-stable to debian standards or something? Just wondering. |
| 01:06.32 | simonrvn | because |
| 01:06.40 | Kovecses | roby: they dont add new packages to stable |
| 01:06.42 | simonrvn | !tell roby -about stable |
| 01:07.02 | gravity | That would be "testing" |
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| 01:07.35 | roby | ah i see, yeah i'm using testing now... but the word 'testing' doesn't sound so nice to be using on a server :) |
| 01:07.35 | gravity | Or stable+backports.org |
| 01:07.58 | scam | cna you change from xorg to xfree86 in debian? |
| 01:07.59 | kreg_work | can anyone point me to the right doc or teach me how to move a database on a mysql server to another mysql server? |
| 01:08.08 | Kovecses | roby: if its a server then why would you want OOo2? |
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| 01:08.18 | gravity | scam: You can install the stable packages for xfree86, yes |
| 01:08.19 | roby | Kovecses: sorry, the OOo2 is for my desktop box |
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| 01:08.26 | roby | the rest was for server |
| 01:08.29 | scam | gravity, how do you get it to use it? |
| 01:08.29 | gravity | scam: But as of etch, Debian will no longer ship or support xfree86 |
| 01:08.46 | Kovecses | roby: there is backports.org |
| 01:08.47 | gravity | scam: Pull the stable packages. Install. Restart X. |
| 01:08.55 | dsl__ | fisher |
| 01:09.00 | roby | Kovecses: i will have a look |
| 01:09.03 | roby | ty |
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| 01:09.36 | scam | for somereason my ultra60 wont start X with xorg |
| 01:09.44 | scam | but it works fine with xfree86 |
| 01:09.51 | Kovecses | thats odd |
| 01:10.00 | gravity | scam: Could you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log in a pastebin? I'll take a quick look. |
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| 01:10.32 | Fetal | anyone available to help a noob real quick? |
| 01:10.37 | abrotman | HOW DO U GET XGL?????????/ |
| 01:10.37 | Kovecses | sure |
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| 01:11.02 | gravity | I suppose I should write my blog post or somesuch |
| 01:11.10 | abrotman | about what? |
| 01:11.18 | abrotman | more manager lessons! |
| 01:11.24 | liable | cheesesteaks? |
| 01:11.30 | gravity | Why I'm doing another monolithic update that 0.1% of Debian users may care about |
| 01:11.33 | abrotman | gravity: would you like an abrotman picture to post? :) |
| 01:11.39 | gravity | heh, no thanks |
| 01:11.44 | abrotman | gravity: i have sane ones! |
| 01:11.59 | scam | http://pastebin.com/639028 |
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| 01:12.53 | Fetal | ok I know mount is the command, but how do I figure out what my harddrive partitions are labeled? eg /dev/hda1? |
| 01:13.07 | scam | gravity, http://pastebin.com/639028 |
| 01:13.14 | scam | incase you didnt see that |
| 01:13.27 | gravity | scam: You need to change your load "keyboard" line to "kbd" instead |
| 01:13.30 | gravity | scam: That should let it load |
| 01:13.45 | gravity | scam: If your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 01:13.55 | abrotman | s/If/In/ |
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| 01:14.17 | gravity | scam: Or rather, in your keyboard "InputDevice" section of that file, change it to use the kbd driver instead of keyboard |
| 01:14.35 | gravity | scam: The keyboard input driver got rewritten for xorg, so you're telling it to load a driver that no longer exists. |
| 01:14.42 | abrotman | gravity: the R300 isn't in 7.0 ? |
| 01:15.00 | gravity | abrotman: I think it is |
| 01:15.06 | abrotman | gravity: hrm .. ok |
| 01:15.13 | gravity | abrotman: You need the mesa packages from mesa, not from xorg-x11 though to get DRI |
| 01:15.19 | gravity | abrotman: I'm not 100% sure though |
| 01:15.22 | abrotman | oh ok |
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| 01:15.43 | gravity | Those xorg-x11 mesa packages are going away with the monolithic tree. There'll only be one set of mesa packages in Debian soon |
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| 01:16.04 | gravity | (he says as he builds mesa) |
| 01:16.04 | abrotman | woohoo! |
| 01:16.08 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:16.09 | liable | Fetal: what do you mean? type 'mount' by itself or look in fstab?? |
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| 01:16.16 | abrotman | gravity: what do you build all these on ? |
| 01:16.21 | gravity | abrotman: My laptop. |
| 01:16.25 | gravity | All of them. On my laptop. |
| 01:16.27 | asg | abrotman: I'm still running a desktop system at work with an S3 chipset that is only supported by the X in woody and the Xserver-S3 in sarge ;) |
| 01:16.29 | gravity | It's slow. Very very slow. |
| 01:16.35 | camaleao | hi |
| 01:16.39 | abrotman | gravity: are you serious? |
| 01:16.41 | scam | gravity, check this log file |
| 01:16.43 | gravity | abrotman: Yep |
| 01:16.54 | abrotman | gravity: shouldn't you buy .. a computer? :) |
| 01:16.56 | gravity | heh |
| 01:16.59 | scam | http://pastebin.com/639033 |
| 01:17.04 | abrotman | gravity: how slow is your laptop ? |
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| 01:17.40 | gravity | scam: Can you put your xorg.conf file in a paster too? |
| 01:17.52 | scam | gravity, sure can |
| 01:17.54 | gravity | abrotman: 2.4 ghz |
| 01:17.55 | abrotman | wtf is ffb ? |
| 01:18.04 | gravity | Something framebuffer |
| 01:18.05 | asg | abrotman: the ffs buffer |
| 01:18.06 | abrotman | gravity: oh .. that's not horrible ... |
| 01:18.06 | gravity | I forget |
| 01:18.16 | gravity | abrotman: It's got a slow disk driver |
| 01:18.16 | abrotman | gravity: wait .. 128MB RAM ? :) |
| 01:18.20 | gravity | s/driver/drive/ |
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| 01:18.51 | abrotman | asg: we like X .. let's split an athlon64 for gravity!! |
| 01:19.07 | gravity | I'd be down for that |
| 01:19.13 | scam | gravity, http://pastebin.com/639036 |
| 01:19.22 | asg | abrotman: well, it is budget time. I'll put in a request. |
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| 01:19.34 | abrotman | asg: hehe |
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| 01:20.05 | gravity | Oh... I see |
| 01:20.13 | gravity | scam: What video card is this again? |
| 01:20.18 | asg | abrotman: I'm serious, it's just a hard sell since community colleges don't have a lot of budget but service magnitudes more people generally than universities. |
| 01:20.22 | gravity | ffb is obviously not working for you |
| 01:20.27 | scam | its in an ultra60 |
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| 01:20.31 | gravity | scam: What's that? |
| 01:20.34 | scam | 3d creator something |
| 01:20.34 | gravity | Sparc? |
| 01:20.34 | Kovecses | scam: i would create a new xorg.conf using X -configure |
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| 01:20.49 | scam | Kovecses, it crashes trying to run that |
| 01:21.01 | scam | gravity, yes its a sparc |
| 01:21.07 | Kovecses | crashes .. or gives you an error |
| 01:21.19 | abrotman | gravity: yes .. nice sparc :) |
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| 01:21.31 | scam | caught signal 11.. server aborting |
| 01:21.33 | abrotman | gravity: not a server .. but a good older workstatoin |
| 01:21.36 | scam | is the error it gives me |
| 01:21.37 | h4x0r | hello |
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| 01:21.43 | h4x0r | hi |
| 01:21.48 | Kovecses | hello\ |
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| 01:21.54 | scam | for X -configure |
| 01:22.05 | abrotman | does X work on sparc without framebuffer? |
| 01:22.26 | h4x0r | does anyone know of any good unofficial etch repos for apt-get |
| 01:22.42 | scam | abrotman, yes you can but im trying to use the videocard |
| 01:22.50 | Kovecses | scam: did you forget to install x-window-system |
| 01:23.01 | scam | its installed |
| 01:23.10 | Kovecses | check |
| 01:23.19 | Kovecses | apt-get install x-window-system |
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| 01:23.31 | asg | h4x0r: why would you want an unofficial one? |
| 01:23.37 | gravity | scam: Try and use the sunffb driver name instead of just ffb |
| 01:23.42 | h4x0r | for more packages |
| 01:23.51 | scam | Kovecses, it wasnt installed |
| 01:24.01 | Kovecses | scam: i knew it |
| 01:24.04 | asg | h4x0r: etch has close to 18k already, what particularly are you looking for? |
| 01:24.07 | h4x0r | i need stuff like headers for kern. 2.6, mplayer, firefox1.5 |
| 01:24.14 | Kovecses | scam: you kinda need that .. lol |
| 01:24.15 | scam | gravity, i will try in a sec if this doesnt work |
| 01:24.25 | gravity | ok |
| 01:24.26 | asg | !info firefox etch |
| 01:24.38 | abrotman | h4x0r: apt-cache search linux-headers-2.6 |
| 01:24.40 | h4x0r | ? |
| 01:24.45 | asg | !info mozilla-firefox etch |
| 01:24.45 | abrotman | !tell h4x0r about mplayer |
| 01:24.47 | Kovecses | h4x0r: kern 2.6 is in the repos |
| 01:24.50 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-1 (etch), Packaged size: 7444 kB, Installed size: 21016 kB |
| 01:24.57 | h4x0r | sorry, im a packman vet |
| 01:24.58 | abrotman | !why is firefox not in testing |
| 01:24.58 | dpkg | firefox is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=firefox |
| 01:25.22 | gravity | Yeah, I bet that's the problem |
| 01:25.35 | scam | Kovecses, i still get the same error trying to run X -configure |
| 01:25.55 | Kovecses | scam: and you installed xwindowsystem |
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| 01:26.36 | gravity | Kovecses: That's just a metapackage. He doesn't need it. |
| 01:26.43 | scam | Kovecses, yes i did |
| 01:26.45 | Kovecses | scam: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 01:26.45 | gravity | He needs to tell xorg what the right driver to load is. That's all. |
| 01:26.50 | Kovecses | gravity |
| 01:26.59 | Kovecses | gravity: you need it |
| 01:27.06 | gravity | Kovecses: x-window-system? |
| 01:27.10 | Kovecses | yup |
| 01:27.13 | gravity | Kovecses: /whois gravity |
| 01:27.14 | asg | Kovecses: x-window-system is a meta-package |
| 01:27.23 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 01:27.23 | dpkg | it has been said that sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 01:27.23 | gravity | Kovecses: apt-cache show x-window-system | grep Nusinow |
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| 01:27.29 | asg | Kovecses: it just loads things more conveniently |
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| 01:27.46 | h4x0r | thanks all |
| 01:27.47 | scam | says no x server known for my video hardware |
| 01:27.48 | gravity | Argh, it doesn't put uploaders in |
| 01:27.53 | Kovecses | well .. i installed xorg .. ran the config and dpkg told me i needed x-window-system |
| 01:27.59 | abrotman | gravity: who are you again? :) |
| 01:28.00 | gravity | scam: Did you change ffb to sunffb? |
| 01:28.18 | scam | gravity, yes and it still had same error |
| 01:28.25 | Kovecses | metapackage or not... do you guys even know what a meta package is? |
| 01:28.35 | gravity | scam: Does it fail to load the module? |
| 01:28.39 | asg | Kovecses: yes and gravity should know especially |
| 01:29.01 | chealer | gravity: returns nothing here :-P |
| 01:29.13 | gravity | chealer: Yeah, I didn't realize it doesn't put the uploaders field in to the package info |
| 01:29.23 | scam | gravity, no |
| 01:29.24 | asg | chealer: there's a black hole that's sucking up the gravity |
| 01:29.27 | Kovecses | well i was getting signal 11 .. on X -configure .. and it told me to install x-window-system and it worked ... so it must have done SOMETHING |
| 01:29.36 | gravity | scam: Can you put the new logfile in the paster please? |
| 01:29.39 | gravity | I'll have another look |
| 01:29.45 | asg | Kovecses: yes, in Debian, you don't run X -configure, you run dpkg-reconfigure ... |
| 01:29.46 | gravity | Kovecses: It does do something |
| 01:29.51 | abrotman | gravity: based on what p.d.o thinks .. there's no ffb .. anywhere |
| 01:29.53 | gravity | Kovecses: But it doesn't mean that you *need* it |
| 01:29.56 | scam | gravity, sorry it says failed to load driver sunffb |
| 01:30.02 | gravity | abrotman: It's only in the sun packages |
| 01:30.09 | Kovecses | asg: thats what told me to install x-window-system |
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| 01:30.11 | abrotman | gravity: i know ... i looked in SPARC |
| 01:30.19 | gravity | scam: dpkg -L xserver-xorg | grep ffb |
| 01:30.27 | Kovecses | gravity: oh I believe you ... but thats just what worked for me |
| 01:30.34 | asg | Kovecses: yes, to be helpful to newbies. There are more leaner ways to do it. |
| 01:30.43 | Kovecses | leaner? |
| 01:30.50 | asg | Kovecses: light weight |
| 01:30.51 | chealer | asg: I'm trying to represent to myself what sucking the gravity looks like |
| 01:30.58 | Kovecses | the package was less than a meg iirc |
| 01:31.18 | asg | Kovecses: yes but it's a meta-package, it pulls in lots of other packages you generally don't need. |
| 01:31.20 | scam | it gives me the locations of where ffb is |
| 01:31.31 | gravity | scam: Ok, so there's a sunffb_drv.so? |
| 01:31.39 | abrotman | Kovecses: it's a freaking metapackage ... |
| 01:31.39 | asg | Kovecses: you can build a <1M package that attempts to install all 18K packages in Debian. |
| 01:31.42 | Kovecses | asg: i must have already had most of them... didnt pull in much for me |
| 01:31.51 | abrotman | !info x-window-system etch |
| 01:31.56 | scam | /usr/X11R6 /lib/modules/drivers/sunffb_drv.so |
| 01:31.58 | dpkg | x-window-system: (X Window System), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 (etch), Packaged size: 176 kB, Installed size: 268 kB |
| 01:32.04 | abrotman | woohoo! .. 176KB! |
| 01:32.07 | Kovecses | yes i know.... im talking about packages it grabbed as well |
| 01:32.12 | gravity | scam: Can you put your new xorg.conf in a paster? |
| 01:32.18 | scam | gravity, yes |
| 01:32.20 | gravity | Thanks |
| 01:32.20 | asg | chealer: you could probably run some of the imagemagick tools on his hackergotchi as a representative sample? :) |
| 01:32.26 | abrotman | gravity: funny .. p.d.o says there's nothing like that |
| 01:32.40 | gravity | abrotman: I dunno. It's in all the packaging that I'm looking at right now so I know it's there |
| 01:32.49 | abrotman | gravity: maybe it's out of sync .. who knows |
| 01:32.59 | gravity | dunno |
| 01:33.09 | abrotman | i'll ask jvw tomorrow maybe |
| 01:33.10 | abrotman | doh! |
| 01:33.23 | asg | asg@ftp-master:~$ find /lib/modules/2.6.8-3-sparc64/ | grep sunf |
| 01:33.23 | asg | asg@ftp-master:~$ |
| 01:33.31 | scam | gravity, http://pastebin.com/639054 |
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| 01:33.55 | abrotman | that's so freaking weird |
| 01:33.59 | abrotman | the search must be broken |
| 01:34.10 | UncleSkunk | is it possible to be running multiple Apache servers on the same machine. how can I check and kill em |
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| 01:34.26 | gravity | scam: That's the not the change I asked you to make... one second. |
| 01:34.45 | abrotman | UncleSkunk: only one app can claim port 80 |
| 01:34.50 | asg | UncleSkunk: ask #apache |
| 01:34.59 | asg | abrotman: unless you bind to multiple vips |
| 01:35.11 | abrotman | asg: ok . only one can claim port 80 on each IP :) |
| 01:35.16 | UncleSkunk | heh |
| 01:35.29 | gravity | scam: You were supposed to change your driver line to use sunffb, not fbdev |
| 01:35.33 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:35.48 | scam | gravity, i did it still didnt work |
| 01:35.48 | asg | abrotman: :) |
| 01:35.48 | abrotman | gravity: is this going to be a head->desk moment ? |
| 01:36.01 | asg | abrotman: a B>N|K |
| 01:36.05 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:36.08 | scam | same error |
| 01:36.12 | asg | speaking of ... |
| 01:36.36 | gravity | scam: I need to see the logfile with the error |
| 01:36.44 | abrotman | scam: change it to sunffb .. then show us the log file |
| 01:36.49 | abrotman | scam: AND your conf file |
| 01:36.54 | scam | abrotman, sure thing |
| 01:36.57 | chealer | asg: any opposition to maintaining X11 in case the experience goes bad for gravity? :) |
| 01:37.00 | scam | give me a sec |
| 01:37.27 | abrotman | gravity: search not broken .. just won't do partial file names ... doh |
| 01:37.37 | gravity | ah |
| 01:37.41 | abrotman | well .. not "broken" .. depends how you think it should work :) |
| 01:37.51 | smacnay | is there a bug with ogle in debian? Seems that I get a black screen with sound. No bug report looks like this issue. |
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| 01:38.30 | chealer | smacnay: there are indeed several bugs open against ogle |
| 01:38.32 | gravity | smacnay: That may be an xvideo issue. If you can do another output, it might be worthwhile. I have no experience with ogle though |
| 01:38.51 | DiscoStrangler | I just had sex with a Penguin. It was awesome. Yet another example of how Linux is superior to everything else. |
| 01:39.06 | Kovecses | poor penquin |
| 01:39.06 | abrotman | aren't pengiuns small ? |
| 01:39.14 | scam | gravity, abrotman |
| 01:39.14 | scam | scam give me a sec |
| 01:39.27 | smacnay | gravity: seems there are no errors on playing - just a black screen. Maybe an Aorg issue? |
| 01:39.30 | scam | gravity, abrotman http://pastebin.com/639063 |
| 01:39.33 | DiscoStrangler | Eh, it died halfway through, but it was still awesome/ |
| 01:40.03 | gravity | Whoa, now we're getting somewhere! |
| 01:40.07 | gravity | Undefined symbols. Whoopie |
| 01:40.25 | scam | what the heck does that mean? |
| 01:40.27 | abrotman | gravity: aren't you supposed to define those ? |
| 01:40.29 | gravity | Now that looks like an honest to goodness bug in the driver |
| 01:40.29 | DiscoStrangler | I have the video. Want to take a look? |
| 01:40.43 | abrotman | scam: it would be like if you knew a word existed . but the dictionary couldn't tell you what it means |
| 01:40.53 | abrotman | DiscoStrangler: ok .. you can stop now |
| 01:41.20 | DiscoStrangler | After it died, it was like doing BASH commands. The dead penguin was bashing around, lol. Fun stuff. |
| 01:41.25 | gravity | DiscoStrangler: Do you have a question about Debian? |
| 01:41.29 | asg | chealer: :) I personally wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. I'd be more capable of maintaining cowsay |
| 01:41.31 | abrotman | scam: and that's a pretty bad analogy |
| 01:41.48 | abrotman | (though i've seen worse) |
| 01:42.02 | scam | abrotman, it worked with a stable version |
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| 01:42.07 | scam | with xfree |
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| 01:42.10 | abrotman | scam: i'm sure it did |
| 01:42.14 | gravity | scam: Something didn't get updated |
| 01:42.20 | gravity | I'm trying to figure out where that symbol is supposed to be |
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| 01:42.22 | chealer | asg: fair enough, I'll fire imagemagick and see |
| 01:42.28 | DiscoStrangler | Oh, and for those of you who care, I did the penguin in the poop chute. |
| 01:42.36 | scam | we did a fresh install.. i got a 18 gig 10000 rpm drive in it now |
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| 01:42.38 | abrotman | scam: gravity http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352869 |
| 01:42.53 | asg | chealer: he's a good looking guy though, you don't want to stretch him too bad |
| 01:43.02 | DiscoStrangler | Probably died of internal bleeding. Im sure something ruptured. |
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| 01:43.12 | DiscoStrangler | There was a lot of blood. |
| 01:43.21 | rigel | im having a problem with gnome |
| 01:43.25 | gravity | abrotman: Ah, I thought it looked familiar |
| 01:43.26 | abrotman | DiscoStrangler: really .. stop |
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| 01:43.32 | abrotman | gravity: and there's a solution there! |
| 01:43.38 | abrotman | !praise BTS |
| 01:43.42 | asg | !beer gravity |
| 01:43.43 | gravity | Ah, I see it |
| 01:43.47 | chealer | asg: yeah, I know, but I'm sure he introduced bugs in X |
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| 01:43.53 | gravity | scam: You should read the link abrotman posted |
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| 01:44.04 | abrotman | i should read the link i posted! |
| 01:44.05 | scam | gravity, i am right now |
| 01:44.09 | scam | abrotman, haha |
| 01:44.10 | rigel | whenever i shut down and DONT check the "save my layout" box or whatever, it doesnt shut down, and a window pops up saying "your information has been saved" |
| 01:44.13 | asg | chealer: not intentionally, I'm sure :) |
| 01:44.18 | gravity | scam: You can ignore all the config info. Just skip to the bottom |
| 01:44.21 | nn-server | how come when i downeload a cuple of files everything goes fine for a fiew days then boom all of a sudden i have 0 disk space left |
| 01:44.27 | chino | how do i get ldap search ? |
| 01:44.29 | abrotman | gravity: that's a simple solution .. though it'd be better to know why it fails to begin with |
| 01:44.30 | rigel | and then when it does actually restart, it runs more than one instance of some things |
| 01:44.34 | nn-server | Big files |
| 01:44.36 | rigel | that it has no business running more than one instance of |
| 01:44.37 | abrotman | gravity: scam: the solution is near the top |
| 01:44.49 | nn-server | DvD's |
| 01:44.51 | gravity | I don't It's there too |
| 01:44.51 | asg | nn-server: well, which files are the Big files (tm)? |
| 01:44.52 | chino | how do i get hte ldap tools ? |
| 01:44.53 | abrotman | chino: in what? |
| 01:44.59 | gravity | Er... it's there too (what was I typing?) |
| 01:45.06 | scam | yeah i got it |
| 01:45.10 | scam | let me try this out |
| 01:45.12 | nn-server | linux dvd iso's |
| 01:45.12 | scam | thanks |
| 01:45.27 | nn-server | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.27 | nn-server | nn-server onily 3 days later |
| 01:45.27 | nn-server | nn-server i run out for no apernent reason |
| 01:45.27 | nn-server | nn-server or even if i have plenty of external disk space where i am seaing the file |
| 01:45.27 | nn-server | nn-server the main HD runs out |
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| 01:45.36 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:45.45 | thuper | what can i do about esd? |
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| 01:45.50 | gravity | It looks like just the cfb module will do it though, but cfb32 can't hurt I guess |
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| 01:45.54 | asg | chino: install ldap-utilities |
| 01:45.58 | gravity | abrotman: Well done |
| 01:46.03 | abrotman | nn-server: did you know the phillies got smacked around today? |
| 01:46.07 | abrotman | gravity: i can use the bts! |
| 01:46.10 | gravity | Hehe |
| 01:46.11 | gravity | I can't |
| 01:46.15 | gravity | I need to clean that sucker out |
| 01:46.16 | nn-server | outch ,, on |
| 01:46.19 | nn-server | no |
| 01:46.21 | nn-server | ** |
| 01:46.21 | rigel | anyone? |
| 01:46.23 | gravity | Too damn messy |
| 01:46.26 | abrotman | gravity: you can't remember all 4,436 bugs on xserver-xorg :) |
| 01:46.30 | gravity | heh |
| 01:46.31 | chino | asg: thats not a package |
| 01:46.42 | asg | chino: what version of Debian are you running |
| 01:46.47 | scam | hahaha support depth 16 is not supported by this driver also |
| 01:46.50 | rigel | is this just an issue with gnome itself or is there something i can do to get it to stop this retarded behavior? |
| 01:46.52 | abrotman | doh! |
| 01:46.52 | scam | so how about tha |
| 01:46.53 | chino | i got it |
| 01:47.04 | asg | chino: ldap-utils? |
| 01:47.04 | nn-server | that many !!!! thought it was stable |
| 01:47.06 | chino | yes |
| 01:47.09 | chino | thank you! |
| 01:47.10 | abrotman | nn-server: don't paste like that .. paste it somewhere we can read it |
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| 01:47.24 | bkudria | i am trying to use keychain, and it seems to find my key, but if i run an ssh session, it still prompts me for my passphrase: http://pastebin.com/639031 ...what do i do? |
| 01:47.29 | nn-server | ok |
| 01:47.29 | abrotman | asg: that was HARD! |
| 01:47.34 | thuper | exit |
| 01:47.37 | nn-server | in / flood |
| 01:47.47 | nn-server | join /flood |
| 01:47.50 | asg | abrotman: let's go shopping |
| 01:47.54 | abrotman | /join #flood ? |
| 01:47.59 | abrotman | asg: for beer! |
| 01:48.10 | asg | abrotman: and brats |
| 01:48.14 | abrotman | oh god yes |
| 01:48.20 | nn-server | yes just got the keys mixed up |
| 01:48.25 | nn-server | ** hapens |
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| 01:48.38 | abrotman | asg: a lager-ish brew to cook the brats in .. and a pile of onions .. |
| 01:48.50 | asg | abrotman: now you're talking |
| 01:48.51 | scam | abrotman, and gravity thanks |
| 01:48.52 | abrotman | nn-server: what problem are you having ? |
| 01:48.55 | scam | that works |
| 01:48.56 | abrotman | scam: all working ? |
| 01:49.03 | scam | other then sound |
| 01:49.05 | scam | yes |
| 01:49.07 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:49.07 | chino | is there any ruby extensions for vim that i can install via apt ? |
| 01:49.12 | gravity | Heh, awesome. Sound is out of my area :-) |
| 01:49.15 | asg | chino: apt-cache search vim ruby |
| 01:49.16 | abrotman | sparcs do more than BEEEEEEEP ? |
| 01:49.44 | chino | does vim-full come with that too ? |
| 01:49.45 | scam | abrotman, yes i had mine playing mp3s |
| 01:49.48 | rigel | is this just an issue with gnome itself or is there something i can do to get it to stop this retarded behavior? |
| 01:49.54 | asg | chino: if you are looking simply for syntax highlighting, try ':syntax on' and edit a ruby file |
| 01:50.07 | abrotman | scam: i have no idea if Alsa works with sparc .. that might be a better question for #debian-sparc |
| 01:50.07 | rigel | whenever i shut down and DONT check the "save my layout" box or whatever, it doesnt shut down, and a window pops up saying "your information has been saved" |
| 01:50.13 | nn-server | did you see it in #flood |
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| 01:50.18 | asg | rigel: if you don't get an answer here, try #gnome in irc.gnome.org or oftc. |
| 01:50.22 | abrotman | nn-server: yeah .. but i can't make heads or tails of it |
| 01:50.23 | nn-server | abrotman, ?? |
| 01:50.34 | nn-server | neither could i |
| 01:50.46 | abrotman | i meant i can't figure out your problem |
| 01:50.48 | nn-server | just hapened to this computer |
| 01:50.58 | abrotman | but i bet it has something to do with the fact that the phillies totally suck! |
| 01:51.00 | chino | asg: how can i make it stay like that all the time ? |
| 01:51.03 | nn-server | fixed it 3 min a go |
| 01:51.17 | asg | chino: edit your ~/.vimrc |
| 01:51.26 | nn-server | crashed kde |
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| 01:51.34 | chino | asg: the one that comes with debian isn't to sharp is it ? |
| 01:51.40 | abrotman | asg: damn you! |
| 01:51.45 | bkudria | i am trying to use keychain, and it seems to find my key, but if i run an ssh session, it still prompts me for my passphrase: http://pastebin.com/639031 ...what do i do? |
| 01:51.45 | nn-server | said could ent write to relece file |
| 01:51.51 | asg | chino: not by default, no. |
| 01:52.02 | nn-server | then ofun my space had just gone poof |
| 01:52.03 | chino | what about /usr/share/vim/vimrc though ? |
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| 01:52.16 | chino | on slackware i just copy that over and it works great |
| 01:52.20 | asg | chino: that would edit it for the entire system. |
| 01:52.29 | chino | no i mean copying htat locally |
| 01:52.33 | asg | chino: you can copy it to ~/.vimrc though |
| 01:52.34 | abrotman | hrm .. crap .. if i go *poof* .. router turned off .. but laptop is still humming :) |
| 01:52.37 | nn-server | i found** |
| 01:52.41 | kritical | I've started a vncserver.. it's gone to desktop :1... but I'm getting connection refused on port 5901? |
| 01:53.03 | chino | asg: yes but am i allready using that or what ? because on slackware you start off iwth no ~/.vimrc and i just copy that over to the home directory and im ready to go |
| 01:53.05 | nn-server | outch |
| 01:53.16 | chino | gues not |
| 01:53.24 | nn-server | that dosent sound good |
| 01:53.26 | asg | chino: those are Slackware's defaults, Debian is a little more conservative. |
| 01:53.43 | chino | yea what up with that ? i cant live with out my nice looking vim! |
| 01:53.46 | asg | chino: there are plenty of examples at vim.org though for you to hack on and integrate. |
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| 01:54.19 | abrotman | ok . that's it .. too many people from PA |
| 01:54.31 | asg | abrotman: are you going to start purging? |
| 01:54.37 | davem | it's ok i'm canadian |
| 01:54.44 | abrotman | living in harrisburg ? |
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| 01:54.55 | davem | lancaster |
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| 01:55.05 | abrotman | davem: even worse! |
| 01:55.40 | ceplma | davem: ping |
| 01:55.45 | davem | yes? |
| 01:55.53 | abrotman | asg: you should go to lancaster to visit .. but avoid the brewery |
| 01:56.00 | magyar | looking for a howto for building deb's from tar.gz |
| 01:56.00 | rigel | fyi, i am currently ignoring neff, mimmie, hayzeus, pocketfig, teabaggr, and malheur |
| 01:56.04 | rigel | doh |
| 01:56.04 | ceplma | davem: sorry, shoot it doesn't work through jabber gateway. |
| 01:56.07 | asg | magyar: /msg dpkg mg |
| 01:56.16 | asg | magyar: also, look at checkinstall |
| 01:56.16 | magyar | asg: thanks |
| 01:56.26 | magyar | asg: roger |
| 01:56.34 | asg | magyar: you're welcome |
| 01:56.37 | asg | !roger abrotman |
| 01:56.37 | dpkg | Bend over, abrotman and take it like a man! |
| 01:57.01 | magyar | -_- |
| 01:57.08 | asg | abrotman: why? I've never met a brewery I didn't like |
| 01:57.10 | ceplma | magyar: install package maint-guide |
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| 01:57.30 | asg | ceplma: the factoid told him that |
| 01:57.48 | abrotman | asg: that's what i said .. then i went to that one |
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| 01:57.58 | abrotman | asg: the inside is great ... beer/food .. not so much |
| 01:58.04 | ceplma | asg: I hope it didn't hurt him to hear it twice :-) |
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| 01:58.10 | asg | abrotman: maybe it was an off day |
| 01:58.18 | asg | ceplma: apparently, it hurt him to hear it one ;) |
| 01:58.34 | magyar | ceplma: nice, thank you |
| 01:58.35 | rigel | i cant get any help from #gnome on irc.gnome.org either |
| 01:58.38 | abrotman | asg: i don't know .. |
| 01:58.49 | asg | abrotman: crap taste or crap service? |
| 01:58.53 | rigel | can someone PLEASE point out how i can deal with this retarded behavior? |
| 01:58.58 | abrotman | rigel: does it actually save it ? |
| 01:59.08 | abrotman | asg: the service was fine .. let me find the url |
| 01:59.11 | rigel | aside from taking a sledgehammer to this computer or nuking my distro, both of which i feel like doing |
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| 01:59.20 | asg | rigel: or stop using Gnome |
| 01:59.30 | bkudria | rigel: yes, kde is good |
| 01:59.31 | abrotman | asg: http://www.lancasterbrewing.com/ |
| 01:59.48 | rigel | abrotman: i presume so, because the next time i reboot, up comes stuff in multiple instances that i wasnt running multiple instances of before |
| 02:00.12 | rigel | bkudria: i would love to stop using gnome, but i'm not sure how to make the switch with this agnula distro |
| 02:00.17 | asg | abrotman: wtf is up with the glowing evil eyes flash thingy? |
| 02:00.39 | abrotman | asg: new beer? |
| 02:00.47 | abrotman | rigel: apt-get install gnome ? |
| 02:00.50 | abrotman | oh ffs .. |
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| 02:01.55 | kritical | I had VNC working.. then I installed GDM remotely.. now all I get is "Connection Refused"... by default does vncserver run over TCP? is there anywhere where this might be disabled? |
| 02:02.04 | UncleSkunk | how would I uninstall something? also is there a search function in Command prompt? |
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| 02:02.20 | rigel | apt-get remove something |
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| 02:02.32 | asg | UncleSkunk: apt-get remove --purge foo ; apt-cache search foo bar baz |
| 02:02.46 | Xenguy | UncleSkunk: find or locate (your 2nd Q) |
| 02:03.07 | Xenguy | UncleSkunk: er, to search for files on your HD |
| 02:03.07 | UncleSkunk | THanks again guys! |
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| 02:04.14 | wimp | what can I type to get what version of debian I'm running? |
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| 02:04.31 | asg | wimp: cat /etc/debian_version (generally) |
| 02:04.41 | scam | how do you comfiure sound in debian? |
| 02:04.51 | asg | scam: /msg dpkg sound |
| 02:05.20 | wimp | is 3.1 sarge? |
| 02:05.27 | gravity | wimp: Yes |
| 02:05.35 | asg | wimp: indeed |
| 02:06.28 | wimp | If I've laready installed a 2.4 system |
| 02:06.28 | wimp | is it easy to change to a 2.6 system? |
| 02:06.28 | gravity | Yep |
| 02:06.28 | gravity | wimp: Just install a 2.6 kernel-image |
| 02:06.28 | abrotman | wimp: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 02:06.29 | bobx86 | intelikey - root acct. is disabled by default iirc |
| 02:06.29 | bobx86 | oops |
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| 02:07.06 | wimp | cool; thanks; |
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| 02:12.30 | scam | abrotman, my sparc has full sound working |
| 02:12.52 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 02:14.11 | swim | hi folks, how is debian unstable at the moment? useable? |
| 02:14.27 | gravity | I'm using it, but I've been using it for years |
| 02:15.01 | gravity | That said, if you're worried about the day-to-day basis of unstable you really shouldn't be running it |
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| 02:15.31 | swim | gravity: well i know that occasionally unstable is less useable then at other times |
| 02:15.43 | gravity | swim: Yeah, but you can't downgrade it |
| 02:15.57 | gravity | swim: So if it becomes less useable for you at that time, you're screwed |
| 02:16.05 | tkup | does amanda do disk-to-disk backups (no tapes)? From skimming over the documentation, they don't mention anything other than tape backup. |
| 02:16.28 | swim | gravity: so what do you do when it becomes less stable? |
| 02:17.23 | gravity | swim: I'm careful about it (I use apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges) and I also have alternative programs that I know I can use for just about anything when one I rely on breaks |
| 02:17.29 | gravity | swim: I also have a stable install just in case |
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| 02:17.49 | gravity | Although I have to use that only once every few years |
| 02:17.50 | swim | gotchyah |
| 02:19.10 | abrotman | gravity: you mean to upgrade to the next release? |
| 02:19.21 | gravity | abrotman: Huh? |
| 02:19.23 | gravity | Oh |
| 02:19.29 | gravity | No, I still have woody actually I think |
| 02:19.32 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:19.32 | gravity | I really need to update it to sarge |
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| 02:19.55 | gravity | Although it was only like two months ago that I needed it, but woody worked fine for the problem |
| 02:20.07 | abrotman | i blame the X packager! |
| 02:20.15 | gravity | I blame dhclient |
| 02:20.25 | abrotman | gravity: how can you not have another machine ? |
| 02:20.32 | gravity | abrotman: I sorta have one. I just never use it |
| 02:20.35 | gravity | It's an old G3 |
| 02:20.47 | gravity | I need to figure out why it's not recognizing the second hard drive. |
| 02:20.49 | abrotman | that's better than my backup .. an old Acer 486 :) |
| 02:20.54 | scam | how do you add sources for apt-get? |
| 02:21.03 | gravity | I'm just too busy working on Debian to have time to get the G3 running :-) |
| 02:21.05 | abrotman | scam: sources for what? |
| 02:21.09 | gravity | scam: man sources.list |
| 02:21.17 | unity | hello, when i am viewing files with japanese characters in the filename through a file browser like konqueror, i do not see japanese chars, rather i see chars with ascii 128-255. is this kde specific or am i missing a package? |
| 02:21.35 | abrotman | rain rain go away |
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| 02:21.53 | gravity | God, I need to make dinner so I can eat and go to sleep |
| 02:21.56 | unity | abrotman: i love rain |
| 02:21.58 | abrotman | gravity: guess who won today! |
| 02:22.00 | gravity | Maybe I can get some xconq packaging done tonight though |
| 02:22.02 | gravity | abrotman: ME |
| 02:22.09 | abrotman | unity: this isn't just rain .. this is thunderboomers! |
| 02:22.10 | gravity | Wait... no I didn't. I kinda lost. |
| 02:22.13 | abrotman | gravity: Sox! |
| 02:22.15 | unity | abrotman: all the better |
| 02:22.16 | gravity | \o/ |
| 02:22.23 | abrotman | gravity: but phillies got creamed |
| 02:22.41 | abrotman | unity: not when the dogs downstairs bark everytime thunder goes .. and they're little fuckin yip dogs |
| 02:22.41 | gravity | We're going to be starting Sox 'n Suds at my work. Going out for beers in the middle of the week to watch the game. I'm looking forward to it. |
| 02:22.45 | gravity | Yeah science dorks |
| 02:22.50 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:23.14 | abrotman | gravity: that sounds like a good thing to do .. i'd do it if i lived in that area |
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| 02:23.57 | gravity | \o/ I broke sdl! |
| 02:24.00 | gravity | Or something |
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| 02:25.32 | abrotman | http://www.weather.com/weather/local/19001?lswe=19001&lwsa=WeatherLocalUndeclared&from=whatwhere |
| 02:25.37 | abrotman | this is going to go on for a while |
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| 02:26.42 | XenReborn | hey, when packages get updated, do they get posted to the debian isos ? |
| 02:27.01 | XenReborn | like regularily ? |
| 02:27.08 | abrotman | XenReborn: for sarge? |
| 02:27.08 | gravity | XenReborn: Not really |
| 02:27.15 | XenReborn | yes for sarge |
| 02:27.18 | XenReborn | because i noticed |
| 02:27.22 | XenReborn | when i use dselect |
| 02:27.24 | gravity | XenReborn: Then no, not unless you mean new security releases |
| 02:27.31 | XenReborn | it will grab new packages |
| 02:27.40 | abrotman | XenReborn: next time there is an r# release .. the ISOs get updated .. the next will be r2(pretty soon from what i gather) |
| 02:27.41 | XenReborn | when i have it pointed at the stable |
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| 02:27.59 | unity | abrotman: i was born during a two-month rain period |
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| 02:28.05 | XenReborn | ok |
| 02:28.10 | XenReborn | ty guys |
| 02:28.10 | XenReborn | :) |
| 02:28.13 | abrotman | unity: sucks to be you |
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| 02:28.34 | unity | abrotman: nope. i think that's why i love rain. cause i was born in it |
| 02:28.47 | abrotman | unity: hopefully your mom had the sense to come in out of the rain :) |
| 02:29.15 | icewalker | i have googled but i cant find a default /root/.profile for etch. something is wrong with mine,, i cant do anything if i log as root, but works great if i use su. can anyone point me to the right place? |
| 02:29.16 | abrotman | hrm .. hopefully i still have an office tomorrow |
| 02:29.32 | abrotman | what do you mean you can't do anything ? |
| 02:29.44 | rshakin | hey what does port 657 do on a newly intalled system ? |
| 02:29.49 | icewalker | cant install via apt-get or use reboot ro halt etc |
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| 02:30.45 | unity | rshakin: do netstat -plint to see what processes are listenening on what ports |
| 02:31.02 | rshakin | thanx |
| 02:31.03 | unity | rshakin: `netstat -plunt` rather and as root |
| 02:31.48 | abrotman | icewalker: so copy it from /etc/skel/ ? |
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| 02:32.33 | abrotman | icewalker: did you change root's shell ? |
| 02:32.41 | icewalker | no |
| 02:33.05 | icewalker | well i did install rxvt for a 10 minute period |
| 02:33.20 | bobx86 | rshakin - port 657 tcp/udp is assigned to 'rmc' whatever that is. |
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| 02:33.29 | abrotman | icewalker: do you want to see the contents of my .profile ? |
| 02:33.39 | icewalker | sure |
| 02:33.44 | abrotman | icewalker: /j #flood |
| 02:34.32 | jshriver | when I use mplayer with v4l I get sound but video is screwed up.. but if I use v4l2 I get video fine but no sound lol how can I fix this? |
| 02:34.50 | abrotman | jshriver: ask #mplayer |
| 02:35.10 | jshriver | well it seems like a driver problem.. since I can't do this in xawtv either |
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| 02:35.47 | m1ke_l | anyone ever install OO via source? |
| 02:35.59 | abrotman | i bet in #openoffice they have :) |
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| 02:36.37 | unity | just keep on sending ppl to other channels |
| 02:36.52 | unity | #openoffice.org |
| 02:36.55 | m1ke_l | there are 3 people in there |
| 02:37.09 | m1ke_l | now 4 |
| 02:37.12 | m1ke_l | now 3 |
| 02:37.20 | unity | !enter |
| 02:37.20 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 02:37.32 | unity | m1ke_l: /j #openoffice.org |
| 02:37.37 | thuper | esd and gnome aren't getting along |
| 02:37.48 | m1ke_l | thats better! |
| 02:37.50 | m1ke_l | thanks. |
| 02:38.17 | jshriver | Is ther xgl support in debian yet? if so what package needs installed |
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| 02:38.29 | m1ke_l | am I wrong in thinking that aplications also need to support the arch? |
| 02:38.40 | m1ke_l | i can't seem to find anything to install on debian on itanium. |
| 02:38.52 | chealer | !tell jshriver about xgl |
| 02:40.44 | dbe | which media player is recommended for playing DVD's, Mplayer? |
| 02:40.45 | unity | copying big source trees from smbfs to ext3 over 100 mbit is slow...700 kb/sec |
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| 02:40.57 | unity | dbe: mplayer |
| 02:41.06 | dbe | unity, thanks |
| 02:41.09 | gravity | Too much to do |
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| 02:41.27 | unity | gravity: there are books on linux timesaver tricks |
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| 02:41.46 | gravity | unity: Books? |
| 02:42.19 | unity | gravity: wiley publishing, 2004 |
| 02:42.49 | unity | gravity: i haven't read it but i would guess it's for people that have a lot of stuff to do in short time periods |
| 02:42.49 | gravity | unity: Well, I already have unix power tools. I doubt there's anything in there of much use to me |
| 02:43.00 | gravity | unix power tools is still awesome |
| 02:43.17 | chealer | dbe: there is no single recommendation. |
| 02:43.40 | gravity | unity: I appreciate the idea though :-) |
| 02:43.45 | jshriver | !dpkg compiz |
| 02:43.45 | dpkg | compiz is probably probably a combined window manager / composite manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. Currently, it is only working correctly if run on Xgl. |
| 02:43.48 | gravity | If I read too much, I won't get anything done :-) |
| 02:44.02 | gravity | Not 100% true. It works on aiglx for some people apparently |
| 02:44.28 | jshriver | I'm a little confused... it seems there's 2 different version of X11R6.. xorg and xfree86.. what does debian use? It seems all the rave now adays is around xorg |
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| 02:44.50 | Jocesito | X11R6 = old |
| 02:44.51 | dvs | jshriver: sarge uses xfree86 and etch and sid use xorg |
| 02:45.21 | jshriver | sarge is stable right? I still dont get the debian names.. just know stable and testing |
| 02:45.28 | dvs | jshriver: yep |
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| 02:46.47 | gravity | jshriver: xorg is a fork from xfree86 mainly due to politics, but also due to technological direction |
| 02:47.13 | gravity | jshriver: xorg has been adopted my just about everyone, including Debian, although Debian is a little late, which is why sarge doesn't have xorg but instead has xfree86 |
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| 02:47.29 | gravity | jshriver: xorg has accumulated a bunch of new features including Xgl and its ilk |
| 02:47.51 | gravity | jshriver: Some of those are available in Debian, some aren't just yet but will be once the maintainer gets his act together and finishes what he started |
| 02:48.06 | dvs | tell gravity about enter ;-) |
| 02:48.16 | gravity | heh |
| 02:48.16 | hlieberman | I'm having some trouble setting up a CUPS server on my debian box. Configured CUPS through the network interface, but when i print a test page, it doesn't even go into the queue, and the printer doesn't respond (print from the local) |
| 02:48.32 | unity | how should i use mget and recurse together to get a folder in smbclient? (it is similar to ftp client) |
| 02:48.56 | unity | hlieberman: is the printer working locally? |
| 02:49.09 | unity | hlieberman: and are you using samba or http protocol? |
| 02:49.11 | ethan | I think amarok is uninstallable, has anyone heard anything about that? |
| 02:49.13 | hlieberman | unity, That was a local print test, from the CUPS web interface. |
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| 02:49.34 | hlieberman | unity, http. |
| 02:50.11 | unity | hlieberman: and it prints when you do it not through http but thru lpr? |
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| 02:50.31 | chealer | glasse: in all releases? |
| 02:50.42 | glasse | chealer: In unstable and experimental, I think. |
| 02:50.53 | hlieberman | unity, How would I do a direct lpr test print? |
| 02:50.53 | chealer | glasse: ask #debian-kde |
| 02:50.57 | glasse | Thanks! |
| 02:51.09 | dvs | Mmmmmmmmmmm... ice cream |
| 02:54.01 | nvz | speaking of ice cream I read some bullshit today about milk products being taken off the fuelperks discounts at the local store becase some dumb reason like the state regulates the price and thus the savings on those products and they got pissed that people were saving money on gas for buying it |
| 02:54.32 | hlieberman | unity, OK... the http configuration is just not working. |
| 02:54.32 | hlieberman | unity, Can I configure it all through the CLI somehow? |
| 02:54.34 | unity | hlieberman: either find a postscript file (*.ps) and print it, or print a plaintext file |
| 02:54.48 | hlieberman | unity, how? :) |
| 02:55.05 | Jocesito | cat file >> /dev/lp0 |
| 02:55.13 | hlieberman | Oh. |
| 02:55.16 | megatux | anyone have trouble with ide-generic grabbing the IDE controller instead of the VIA module, etc.? |
| 02:55.17 | hlieberman | And now I feel stupid. |
| 02:55.17 | hlieberman | :) |
| 02:55.21 | Jocesito | si esta en el lpt1 |
| 02:55.37 | Jocesito | if on lpt1 |
| 02:56.09 | dvs | nvs: That's Windows speak! |
| 02:56.18 | Jocesito | ??? |
| 02:56.19 | hlieberman | !es |
| 02:56.19 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:57.14 | Jocesito | but Im not here for ask help i want help |
| 02:57.22 | abrotman | icewalker: still here ? |
| 02:57.23 | Jocesito | is freedoom |
| 02:57.26 | Jocesito | or not? |
| 02:57.32 | abrotman | !info printconf sarge |
| 02:57.40 | dpkg | printconf: (automatically configures USB and parallel printers with CUPS), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.7.4.14 (sarge), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 40 kB |
| 02:57.40 | nvz | !info freedoom |
| 02:57.44 | dpkg | freedoom: (free game files for the 3D game DOOM), section games, is optional. Version: 0.4.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 6626 kB, Installed size: 17940 kB |
| 02:57.46 | nvz | abrotman: heh |
| 02:57.48 | hlieberman | I cat'ed a plaintext file to /dev/usb/lp0, and got nada. |
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| 02:58.38 | unity | hlieberman: have you set up your printer (ie selected the correct drivers) ? |
| 02:58.55 | hlieberman | unity, Probably not. I set it up using the CUPS web interface, but, god knows if that worked. |
| 02:58.59 | Jocesito | have u set up the usb..? |
| 02:59.08 | abrotman | nvz: put your pants on! |
| 02:59.18 | unity | hlieberman: sorry i've never set up printers with that, only with kprint or something |
| 02:59.25 | abrotman | hlieberman: i've seen people report good success with printconf |
| 02:59.34 | hlieberman | abrotman, Will try! |
| 02:59.46 | unity | abrotman: as opposed to bad success =) |
| 03:00.04 | abrotman | unity: go watch the yankees game or something :) |
| 03:00.18 | Jocesito | usb or lpt? |
| 03:00.52 | hlieberman | abrotman, No X. |
| 03:00.54 | hlieberman | abrotman, At least, not on the server. |
| 03:01.17 | abrotman | hlieberman: oh .. sorry .. didn't realize it was a server |
| 03:01.33 | hlieberman | abrotman, Quite alright! apt-get remove xfree* solved all my problems. :) |
| 03:01.37 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:03.15 | abrotman | it's raining! |
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| 03:04.05 | abrotman | ricewalke: thank you |
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| 03:04.23 | ricewalke | np |
| 03:04.27 | abrotman | ricewalke: now we just have to find someone that has an idea why that might happen |
| 03:04.39 | ricewalke | its odd |
| 03:04.41 | abrotman | ricewalke: i'm pretty stumped .. your path includes /sbin/ |
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| 03:04.48 | ricewalke | right |
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| 03:05.00 | ricewalke | i dont want to reinstall |
| 03:05.23 | abrotman | you shouldn't have to |
| 03:05.52 | ricewalke | outstanding |
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| 03:06.21 | abrotman | ricewalke: maybe try logging in as root .. and setting your PATH manually .. and see what happens |
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| 03:06.33 | apikoros | hey, do any of you have an apt-getable lightweight ftp server to recommend? |
| 03:06.43 | abrotman | proftpd or vsftpd |
| 03:06.56 | ricewalke | abrotman ok |
| 03:06.58 | Naz_ | #Exim is dead and I need to clear my queue |
| 03:07.00 | apikoros | proftpd is big, no? |
| 03:07.03 | abrotman | ricewalke: i'm fairly stumped |
| 03:07.12 | abrotman | apikoros: jeez .. how small do you want ? |
| 03:07.17 | abrotman | !info proftpd sarge |
| 03:07.19 | ricewalke | but abrotman why would things work if i su bit not when i log as root |
| 03:07.22 | dpkg | proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-15sarge1.0.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 362 kB, Installed size: 832 kB |
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| 03:07.31 | abrotman | ricewalke: that's part of what i don't get |
| 03:07.37 | apikoros | abrotman, woops, i take that back ;) |
| 03:07.37 | abrotman | apikoros: enormous! |
| 03:07.39 | ricewalke | :/ |
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| 03:07.54 | Naz_ | I can't flush my queue in Exim, its HUGE, and #exim is dead. |
| 03:07.56 | ricewalke | abrotman how to manually set path? |
| 03:08.09 | Naz_ | can anyone help with that? |
| 03:08.20 | apikoros | !info vsftpd etch |
| 03:08.27 | dpkg | vsftpd: (The Very Secure FTP Daemon), section net, is extra. Version: 2.0.3-1.0.1 (etch), Packaged size: 108 kB, Installed size: 308 kB |
| 03:08.28 | abrotman | ricewalke: export PATH=blahblahbalbhalbha |
| 03:08.37 | ricewalke | kk |
| 03:08.38 | apikoros | wow, even smaller |
| 03:08.39 | abrotman | apikoros: even smaller! |
| 03:08.39 | ricewalke | bbs |
| 03:08.56 | Naz_ | anyone? |
| 03:08.59 | abrotman | nvz: wanna help ? |
| 03:09.26 | Naz_ | I can't flush my queue in Exim. |
| 03:09.34 | Naz_ | Exim is dead and I've RTFM. |
| 03:09.39 | abrotman | we understand |
| 03:10.02 | Naz_ | ok.. So can you help? :P |
| 03:10.06 | abrotman | Naz_: did you try `man mailq` ? |
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| 03:10.15 | Naz_ | nope |
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| 03:10.18 | Naz_ | I'll try that |
| 03:10.53 | Puter | I'm trying to route between subnets....Using Ubuntu 5.10 do I need IP forwarding ? |
| 03:11.06 | abrotman | first go to #ubuntu .. then to #iptables |
| 03:11.13 | Puter | Thank you |
| 03:11.33 | jshriver | Is there a command to see a list of all device drivers loaded and what device they're mapped to? |
| 03:11.41 | Naz_ | well, how would I clear with that? |
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| 03:14.22 | Naz_ | anyone? |
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| 03:17.40 | gfn | what's the latest stable release> |
| 03:17.47 | gfn | i know it 3.1 rv1 |
| 03:17.49 | gfn | but what iso |
| 03:17.56 | gb2312 | has anyone successfully installed sid using debootstrap recently? |
| 03:18.09 | gfn | i went to: http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 03:18.13 | Squall` | For some reason, scroll lock doesn't work in X =O. Any hints as to why this may be hgappening? |
| 03:18.15 | gfn | and theres like 20+ iso files there |
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| 03:23.07 | GTswagger | Where does one go to suggest a new package be added to a main repository? |
| 03:23.35 | gravity | GTswagger: File an rfp bug against wnpp |
| 03:23.45 | gravity | GTswagger: Use reportbug to do it. It's pretty easy that way |
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| 03:24.20 | GTswagger | I was hoping for a bugzilla ... or a mailing list... or wiki... I'm a Gentoo user.. just trying to get a very new project added to the main distros. |
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| 03:25.19 | gravity | GTswagger: Go to bugs.debian.org. It's got instructions on how to use the bug database with just an email client |
| 03:25.33 | GTswagger | awesome - thanks |
| 03:25.47 | unix_infidel | anyone know if its possible to have acpi stop charging the battery at a specific point...eg 94 percent. |
| 03:25.48 | Seb | GTswagger: file a bug against wnpp, that's how it's done. Reportbug knows about that, just 'reportbug wnpp' |
| 03:26.20 | GTswagger | Seb -- don't run debian -- assuming you're referring to the actual "reportbug" binary package yes? |
| 03:26.41 | Seb | GTswagger: ah i see. Then what gravity said. |
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| 03:35.11 | GTswagger | gravity: Thanks... bug (request) submitted |
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| 03:35.29 | jshriver | anyone know why sound will work in v4l but not in v4l2? |
| 03:35.32 | endeavormac | if I have something in my home dir chmoded 0777, other programs running under different users should be able to access that file, or? |
| 03:35.47 | endeavormac | or must it be out of my home dir? |
| 03:35.58 | tung | what are some commands to find out info about the current linux box im on? |
| 03:36.03 | diego | for a single processor machine that has 2 gigs of ram, should i use the -smp kernel? |
| 03:36.06 | tung | from the shell |
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| 03:36.28 | diego | tung: what do you need to know? |
| 03:36.47 | tung | linux kernel version number, ram, cpu, etc |
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| 03:37.37 | diego | tung: `uname -a`, `cat /proc/meminfo`, `cat /proc/cpuinfo` |
| 03:38.00 | gravity | GTswagger: No problem |
| 03:38.27 | tung | diego: thanks |
| 03:40.01 | simonrvn | diego: no. it's single processor, and smp is more than one |
| 03:40.08 | blujay | endeavormac: I think it depends on whether the directories it's in have x (enter) set, too |
| 03:40.19 | diego | simonrvn: agreed, but smp has HIGHMEM enabled i think |
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| 03:41.14 | simonrvn | yeh, probably. might as well make one yourself |
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| 03:41.50 | diego | simonrvn: base it on -386 config? |
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| 03:42.19 | simonrvn | start with that but if you do make it yourself, edit that |
| 03:42.39 | jian1 | compiled 2.6.15 kernel with the option of ipw2200 and ieee-wifi network stack, installed firmware 2.4 too, but still doesn't work |
| 03:42.51 | jian1 | ipw-2.4-boot.fw load failed: Reason 02 |
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| 03:43.21 | diego | simonrvn: of course i'd edit it...i'm not about to compile a kernel the same as the compile farm for the fun of it. this isn't gentoo after all :) |
| 03:44.39 | jshriver | How do you specify what input device you want to "record" from audio wise? |
| 03:44.59 | jshriver | I remember a long time ago I had to use a x program to specify that I wanted line in to be my recording device.. |
| 03:45.01 | jshriver | or port |
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| 03:45.54 | mxktmdude | hi guys i have an old network card and wanna use it for a cheapo file server computer however debian installer doesnt detect it. how can i figure out what the device is? |
| 03:46.08 | jshriver | lspci |
| 03:46.18 | jshriver | if it's isa... hrm.. try booting with knoppix then lsmod |
| 03:46.44 | mxktmdude | this old pc will only boot from floppy and i havent installed debian on it yet |
| 03:46.56 | jshriver | hrm...not sure offhand. |
| 03:47.03 | jshriver | is it a pci or isa card? |
| 03:47.12 | mxktmdude | maybe i will install debian then try lspci |
| 03:47.14 | mxktmdude | pci |
| 03:47.16 | jshriver | if pci then lspci should work for seeing the type.. |
| 03:47.16 | jshriver | ok |
| 03:47.22 | mxktmdude | k |
| 03:47.24 | X600 | mxktmdude: Try putting it in a computer that will run it. |
| 03:47.32 | X600 | Then run lspci. |
| 03:48.12 | mxktmdude | all i have right now is a laptop |
| 03:48.22 | X600 | Oh, I see. |
| 03:48.40 | X600 | That'd be the quickest way, but I guess that's out of the question. |
| 03:49.05 | mxktmdude | yeah im trying to build an el cheapo fileserver out of this thing |
| 03:49.22 | X600 | Just out of curiosity, what is it? |
| 03:49.22 | diego | mxktmdude: can't you read a model number off it? |
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| 03:50.23 | mxktmdude | all i know is that its an actiontec and looks to be a network/dialup modem, other than that thats all i can see |
| 03:50.42 | diego | i'm out, good night |
| 03:50.47 | X600 | I mean the computer you're putting it in. |
| 03:50.49 | mxktmdude | nite |
| 03:50.53 | X600 | G'night, diego. |
| 03:51.00 | mxktmdude | the card itself |
| 03:51.05 | diego | thanks simonrvn |
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| 03:51.27 | mxktmdude | has dialup and a network port, with a sticker that says actiontec |
| 03:51.34 | mxktmdude | but no numbers |
| 03:51.40 | bleaked | could someone recommend me the best app for clone CD copying? (like imaging and burning..not the win app) (i'm currently using k3b, but i want to automate the process) |
| 03:51.59 | X600 | Err, I meant the computer, but it's not relevant anyway. |
| 03:52.53 | mxktmdude | ohh the computer is an oldie, 233mhz no name brand |
| 03:52.57 | jshriver | ok this is getting frustrating... can anyone help me with v4l and v4l2 problems? |
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| 03:53.38 | X600 | mxktmdude: Can't throw an old CDROM drive in it, and boot up Knoppix in text mode? |
| 03:54.14 | mxktmdude | there is a 52x rom, but the bios is too old to support rom boot.. |
| 03:54.29 | mxktmdude | im going thru a floppy install at the moment |
| 03:54.39 | X600 | Ah. |
| 03:54.47 | X600 | Installing right at the moment? |
| 03:55.00 | mxktmdude | thats right just started |
| 03:55.40 | mxktmdude | hopefully this lil brute can run a simple little file server |
| 03:55.48 | FreethinkerX | mxktmdude a true golden oldie ya got thar |
| 03:56.14 | mxktmdude | how did we ever manage back then *shakes head* |
| 03:56.37 | X600 | Heheh, he dug it up at an excavation site, freeone3000. |
| 03:56.52 | X600 | Oops. I mean FreethinkerX. |
| 03:56.55 | FreethinkerX | *grins* |
| 03:56.58 | mxktmdude | :D |
| 03:57.10 | mxktmdude | and its loud as hell |
| 03:57.17 | FreethinkerX | i have a couple of those in the basement |
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| 03:57.38 | X600 | I just got rid of a BUNCH. |
| 03:57.47 | X600 | Well, in the process of it. They're sitting out in the garage. |
| 03:57.54 | FreethinkerX | yes that's next...lol |
| 03:57.59 | X600 | Just ripped all the usable fans out of them. |
| 03:58.02 | jshriver | 'k another question :) how do you setup linux + grub so you get the tux log on the screen during boot? I added that into the kernel. |
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| 03:58.11 | X600 | Must be at least 20 of 'em. |
| 03:58.26 | FreethinkerX | ah, love the pieces parts tho |
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| 03:59.15 | X600 | Yeah, but I've been keeping them in the basement for years thinking I'd one day use most of the parts. |
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| 03:59.47 | X600 | And I've used a few hard drives here, a few memory sticks there, but I finally decided to get rid of most of it. |
| 04:00.08 | FreethinkerX | yup yup that's the way it goes eh? |
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| 04:00.18 | X600 | Atticware is fun though. ;) |
| 04:00.31 | FreethinkerX | *grins* |
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| 04:02.24 | FreethinkerX | i am such a n00b to linux, but what i have done so far is definately awesome |
| 04:03.12 | FreethinkerX | hope to rid myself of winders one fine day...lol |
| 04:03.13 | X600 | It's an adventure. |
| 04:03.19 | FreethinkerX | truely |
| 04:03.34 | X600 | I have a Windows box for WoW, but I haven't played that in like a week. |
| 04:04.02 | FliesLikeABrick | of the main system folders for linux, which one would you most want mounted on a very fast hard disk on a desktop system? |
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| 04:06.47 | mxktmdude | FreethinkerX: that was me 2 years ago, i installed linux and poked around for 6 months but couldnt seem to make the jump... unfortunately or fortunately lol (depending on how you look at it), i had a major problem with ad/spyware and then had a serious hard drive crash. once i got a new drive i had all the ammunition i needed to say NO to windows |
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| 04:07.16 | Liquid_Ic | i screwed up my XFree86 file, how can i let it autoconfigure a new one? |
| 04:07.51 | mxktmdude | been a linux lover ever since and have been pushing everyone i know to use one form of linux or another |
| 04:07.56 | Coweater | !tell Liquid_Ic -about xmd5 |
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| 04:09.18 | gfn | !nob |
| 04:09.23 | gfn | !noob |
| 04:09.23 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 04:09.41 | FreethinkerX | mxktmdude too funny |
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| 04:14.31 | Liquid_Ic | thanks Coweater |
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| 04:21.04 | emss | are there any polished KDE packages for Deban GNU/Linux? |
| 04:22.20 | emss | something to the extent like there is a polished GNOME desktop for Slackware through the Dropline GNOME project but for Debian/KDE :) |
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| 04:23.15 | regeya | define 'polished' |
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| 04:24.31 | chealer | emss: ask #debian-kde |
| 04:24.43 | emss | chealer: thanks |
| 04:26.08 | omi | Does VLC package not include gui any more? I only get thet text version |
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| 04:28.58 | apacker | Anyone have experience with D-Link Gigabit Ethernet and Debian stable? Specifically trying to use DGE-530T but cannot modprobe dl2k or "make" sk98ln modules. Can paste specific errors to #flood if desired. |
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| 04:33.49 | apacker | will try again later... |
| 04:36.17 | nvz | man you almost need classes to understand the awesome power of google |
| 04:36.51 | chealer | omi: the text version of VLC :? |
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| 04:45.44 | weasel00 | !moo |
| 04:45.44 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 04:47.01 | lakcaj | chealer, like mplayer -vo aa? |
| 04:47.03 | lakcaj | :) |
| 04:47.33 | jshriver | aalib is nice :) |
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| 04:50.58 | David-SFN | should i even ask why that moo comment exists? |
| 04:51.27 | dondelelcaro | David-SFN: have you typed apt-get moo already? |
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| 04:51.47 | lakcaj | I think it is called cowsay now |
| 04:51.57 | dondelelcaro | lakcaj: no... it's just apt-get moo... |
| 04:52.05 | AntiFreeze | hey guys, quick question, I'm trying to find a recent unstable 2.6 netinst cd |
| 04:52.12 | David-SFN | i'm afriad too, got to be warey of these strange commands |
| 04:52.13 | AntiFreeze | but I can't find anything post debian 3.0 |
| 04:52.27 | AntiFreeze | and apt's response to netinst has even older netinstall images ;) |
| 04:52.33 | AntiFreeze | anyone know where to look? |
| 04:52.33 | dondelelcaro | AntiFreeze: there aren't unstable netinsts. Use the etch installer. |
| 04:53.04 | AntiFreeze | don't know about etch, where should I look for info on it? |
| 04:53.11 | dondelelcaro | !d-i |
| 04:53.12 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. |
| 04:53.27 | AntiFreeze | thanks |
| 04:54.07 | David-SFN | ...."Have you mooed today?"... |
| 04:54.12 | David-SFN | i dont want to know... |
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| 04:55.23 | bucky | David-SFN: are you a cloven hooved, fur bearing, mammal? |
| 04:55.56 | David-SFN | bucky: not last time i checked but you never know |
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| 04:59.57 | rigel | i need to switch from gnome to kde |
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| 05:00.06 | rigel | and i cant apt-get kde |
| 05:00.13 | rigel | anyone here use agnula? |
| 05:00.15 | unstable | rigel: Why not? |
| 05:00.21 | LordNazgul | rigel apt-get install kde |
| 05:01.04 | rigel | i get all these "depends ___ but is not going to be installed" messages |
| 05:01.16 | rigel | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.20 | rigel | etc etc |
| 05:01.24 | rigel | like 8 of em |
| 05:01.44 | LordNazgul | so string em together apt-get install kde kde-core etc |
| 05:01.54 | LordNazgul | should take care of it |
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| 05:02.18 | rigel | it doesnt |
| 05:02.23 | rigel | i tried kde-core |
| 05:02.31 | rigel | then that gave me the same message for kdebase |
| 05:02.33 | powder | rigel, did u apt-get update? |
| 05:02.41 | rigel | and kdebase gives me another like 8 different ones |
| 05:02.48 | rigel | powder: yes |
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| 05:03.19 | rigel | maybe my sources.list is screwy? |
| 05:03.37 | rigel | theres only one debian proper repository on there. as i said, im running agnula |
| 05:03.47 | gravity | agnula? |
| 05:03.54 | powder | what is agnula? |
| 05:03.56 | rigel | www.agnula.org |
| 05:04.08 | rigel | debian-based multimedia distro |
| 05:04.17 | rigel | but #agnula is idle as **** |
| 05:04.18 | argent | !agnula |
| 05:04.18 | dpkg | agnula is probably The AGNULA project is developing DeMuDi, a Debian based distribution especially for audio work (http://www.agnula.org), and also providing a download server for Free Music (http://muzik.agnula.org). |
| 05:04.22 | gravity | Ah, demudi renamed itself? |
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| 05:04.27 | gravity | sorta |
| 05:04.30 | rigel | yeah, basically |
| 05:04.39 | gravity | Interesting |
| 05:04.41 | streuner | different website |
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| 05:05.09 | deadcat | gravity: i notice your journal say 7.0 is going into sid soon on the 21st of march. whats the current status? |
| 05:05.28 | gravity | deadcat: I'm uploading one more run at monolithic for reasons I'll blog shorty |
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| 05:05.32 | gravity | shortly even |
| 05:05.42 | gravity | I didn't want to, but I kind of had to |
| 05:05.43 | deadcat | k |
| 05:05.46 | liable | rigel: if agnula doesnt have the packages, then having just one debian source wont do because a few kde packages have been upgraded from security |
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| 05:05.59 | rigel | oh |
| 05:06.02 | rigel | well |
| 05:06.04 | cplx_ | how do I give all users full access do a directory and all subfolders/files ? |
| 05:06.10 | cplx_ | to a directory* |
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| 05:06.14 | rigel | what should i add to sources.list then? |
| 05:06.24 | deadcat | cplx_: chmod -R 777 dir |
| 05:06.24 | argent | cplx_, chmod -R 777 <directory> |
| 05:06.48 | liable | rigel: security, and when you get into dependancy problems, dont come running here :) |
| 05:07.10 | cplx_ | thanks deadcat; argent |
| 05:07.18 | argent | cplx_, np |
| 05:07.21 | rigel | um, ok? |
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| 05:07.25 | cplx_ | argent: you from australia? |
| 05:07.32 | argent | cplx_, nope. why? |
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| 05:07.40 | rigel | i have no idea what that even meant |
| 05:07.45 | cplx_ | argent: no reason, thought i knew you.. |
| 05:07.45 | rigel | this is a special-purpose machine |
| 05:07.52 | argent | rigel, you need a source.list? |
| 05:07.58 | argent | *sources.list |
| 05:07.59 | rigel | it does audio, and it happens to run irc and aim from my work computer |
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| 05:08.04 | liable | freenode changed there stance on tor? |
| 05:08.11 | rigel | but gnome, the defailt wm with agnula, is shite |
| 05:08.30 | dondelelcaro | liable: I've no idea about freenode, but #debian has its own policy. |
| 05:08.32 | rigel | argent: sure |
| 05:08.39 | rigel | <--noob |
| 05:08.44 | argent | rigel, which sountry? |
| 05:08.47 | argent | *country |
| 05:08.47 | rigel | us |
| 05:08.52 | argent | just a sec |
| 05:09.06 | liable | dondelelcaro: ah, right. |
| 05:09.26 | argent | rigel, stable, testing or unstable? |
| 05:09.53 | gfn | how do you reconfigure X again, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg? |
| 05:10.08 | liable | minus a space and - |
| 05:10.11 | rigel | um |
| 05:10.23 | rigel | testing, but im not sure im set up to get testing packages |
| 05:10.27 | powder | -- works too |
| 05:10.31 | rigel | i really dont remember how this all works |
| 05:10.41 | gfn | i remember this from ubuntu |
| 05:10.42 | argent | rigel, testing is almost as stable as stable |
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| 05:10.50 | rigel | my most recent foray into linux was with gentoo, and it had been 2 years or so since messing with debian before that |
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| 05:11.10 | gfn | i was just messin with gentoo few hours ago |
| 05:11.13 | gfn | i gave up |
| 05:11.20 | rigel | gfn: it's maddening at first |
| 05:11.22 | gfn | gentoo aint ready for me |
| 05:11.29 | liable | powder: it does? |
| 05:11.31 | gfn | imma get it installed soon |
| 05:11.36 | rigel | and then there's a lull when you think you're cool |
| 05:11.39 | gfn | hell yes liable |
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| 05:11.50 | rigel | after compiling all the big packages |
| 05:12.10 | gfn | it was my 3rd time too trying to install gentoo |
| 05:12.11 | rigel | and then you realize every time firefox gets an update you need to recompile that f***er |
| 05:12.30 | gfn | ill stick with debian |
| 05:12.32 | argent | rigel, http://pastebin.com/639306 |
| 05:12.40 | streuner | gfn: did you see /topic? |
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| 05:13.20 | gfn | what about it? |
| 05:13.32 | powder | liable, always worked for me |
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| 05:14.07 | unstable | !gentoo |
| 05:14.08 | dpkg | somebody said gentoo was a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 05:14.26 | gfn | rigel started it |
| 05:14.27 | gfn | :P |
| 05:14.29 | powder | gentoobies lol |
| 05:14.33 | unstable | !start a distro war |
| 05:14.33 | dpkg | Mandriva is the mutts nuts! |
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| 05:15.17 | rigel | sorry |
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| 05:15.21 | unstable | http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
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| 05:15.23 | unstable | hahaha |
| 05:15.23 | argent | !satrt another distro war |
| 05:15.33 | unstable | !start a distro war |
| 05:15.33 | dpkg | LFS 0wnz! |
| 05:15.53 | powder | how do you start a desktop environment war? |
| 05:16.00 | unstable | You don't. |
| 05:16.06 | powder | aww :( |
| 05:16.06 | unstable | You can start a window manager war. |
| 05:16.12 | OliverKlozoff | !start a window manager war |
| 05:16.12 | unstable | Make an entry for enviroment war. |
| 05:16.13 | dpkg | fvwm95 bites! |
| 05:16.13 | rigel | damn |
| 05:16.14 | powder | oo :) |
| 05:16.17 | argent | powder, if you have logged in, run startx |
| 05:16.19 | unstable | Only two enviroments, kde or gnome |
| 05:16.23 | unstable | !start a window manager war |
| 05:16.23 | dpkg | GNOME sucks! |
| 05:16.26 | OliverKlozoff | try starting a nuclear war :) |
| 05:16.33 | unstable | hmm, that's weird |
| 05:16.48 | unstable | I thought gnome/kde weren't under window manager war, but desktop enviroment war |
| 05:16.52 | unstable | o well, I'll stop abusing the bot |
| 05:16.53 | unstable | !rape |
| 05:17.05 | bjeanes | hey |
| 05:17.21 | OliverKlozoff | !botabuse |
| 05:17.21 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 05:17.24 | powder | argent, i know, i was talking about the bot :) |
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| 05:18.15 | rigel | adding those debian sources to sources.list hasnt done a damn thing for me. i get the same errors when trying to apt-get install kde |
| 05:18.34 | liable | did you update |
| 05:18.39 | rigel | yep |
| 05:18.41 | rigel | just now |
| 05:18.44 | gfn | my shit is still compiling |
| 05:18.48 | gfn | its been an hour |
| 05:18.49 | gfn | lol |
| 05:18.54 | bjeanes | has anyone here been able to compile the Ralink drivers for the DWL-122g wlan usb adaptor.... have got it working in previous distros, but i get an error under debian 3.1r1 using 2.4 kernel |
| 05:19.06 | rigel | gfn: i compiled kde on a p3/450 under gentoo |
| 05:19.09 | rigel | took like 18 hours |
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| 05:19.25 | streuner | !gentoosmite gfn |
| 05:19.33 | OliverKlozoff | hahaha |
| 05:19.37 | gfn | debian > gentoo |
| 05:19.38 | gfn | :D |
| 05:19.46 | OliverKlozoff | not if you have 6 weeks to spare! |
| 05:20.00 | unstable | !rape |
| 05:20.10 | unstable | !factinfo rape |
| 05:20.11 | dpkg | unstable: there's no such factoid as rape |
| 05:20.25 | bjeanes | hey |
| 05:20.52 | OliverKlozoff | it's botabuse |
| 05:20.56 | gfn | Rebuilding database. This may take some time. |
| 05:20.58 | powder | !gentoosmite powder |
| 05:20.59 | gfn | couple more mins |
| 05:21.10 | powder | ahhh feel better |
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| 05:21.17 | OliverKlozoff | lol |
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| 05:21.44 | streuner | dpkg, literal cmd: gentoosmite (.*?) |
| 05:21.44 | dpkg | "#debian cmd: gentoosmite (.*?)" is "($1): <action> spends (5|6|7|8|9) (days|weeks) recompiling $1, and when it's all done, $1 runs ((1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10)% slower|no faster|0.(1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)% faster) than previously" |
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| 05:22.40 | gfn | dpkg, literal cmd: factinfo (.*?) |
| 05:23.55 | OliverKlozoff | lol |
| 05:23.59 | liable | gfn: /msg the bot |
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| 05:24.46 | powder | http://www.funroll-loops.org/ ohhhh man that link is so funny |
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| 05:25.48 | OliverKlozoff | haha |
| 05:25.55 | OliverKlozoff | a 90hp import with a 6 foot spoiler |
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| 05:27.00 | hanasaki | what is a good (cheap) pci card that will do raid5 sataII? |
| 05:27.22 | powder | i like --omg-optimized |
| 05:28.03 | jm_ | sata2? you probably mean 300MB/s as opposed to 150MB/s |
| 05:28.20 | hanasaki | yes |
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| 05:28.27 | smacnay | gravity: the ogle issue I had was (apparently) due to running X in 24 bit colour rather than 16 bit. Ogle works fine when X is set at 16 bit colour. |
| 05:28.32 | OliverKlozoff | what the fsck is a USE flag |
| 05:28.35 | gravity | Ah |
| 05:28.43 | hanasaki | wanna do a 4disk raid5 with 4x320gig sataII |
| 05:28.51 | gfn | Debian Installed. |
| 05:28.51 | gfn | :) |
| 05:28.54 | jm_ | look at 3ware cards |
| 05:28.55 | smacnay | gravity: just found that out by mistake/tinkering |
| 05:28.56 | gfn | took me like 2 hours |
| 05:29.06 | streuner | jm_: he said cheap... |
| 05:29.27 | hanasaki | jm_: whats 3ware have over the others? |
| 05:29.32 | jm_ | streuner: good luck with cheap |
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| 05:31.14 | streuner | hanasaki: talk to debian-isp ML too |
| 05:31.22 | streuner | they swear about 3ware |
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| 05:31.35 | jm_ | hanasaki: good Linux support |
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| 05:32.06 | hanasaki | streuner: who? |
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| 05:32.14 | jshriver | hello |
| 05:32.19 | hanasaki | jm_: hmm looking on newegg.com... seems to be 300$+ dam! |
| 05:32.25 | gfn | hey |
| 05:32.29 | jm_ | hanasaki: yeah, it's not cheap |
| 05:32.33 | jshriver | having problems.. when I boot into linux now I get a ton of Unknown symbols... had to boot into 2.4 and use bitch since X wont load |
| 05:32.41 | gfn | what do you edit again, to download 'non-free' packages? |
| 05:32.42 | streuner | hanasaki: debian-isp Mailing-List, just subsribe |
| 05:32.48 | hanasaki | ah |
| 05:32.48 | hanasaki | thanks |
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| 05:33.21 | hanasaki | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816116031 <= dam too expensive! |
| 05:33.33 | jshriver | can anyone help me? |
| 05:33.46 | hanasaki | thanks all night |
| 05:34.26 | powder | gfn, add non-free and contrib to your sources.lsit |
| 05:34.29 | powder | sources.list |
| 05:34.38 | OliverKlozoff | newegg has a 250gb SATA seagate (5yr warranty!) for like $90 |
| 05:34.39 | jshriver | How do I fix Unknown Symbols in the kernel? I can't even boot now |
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| 05:34.50 | jshriver | Or do I have to wipe reinstall the system? |
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| 05:35.09 | liable | jshriver: what the hell did you do to get into this mess? |
| 05:35.20 | jshriver | compiled a new kernel and rebooted |
| 05:35.28 | jm_ | you fucked up the compile |
| 05:35.29 | gfn | how do you add a user as a sudoer? |
| 05:35.31 | jshriver | ran depmod -a whatever that is.. as someone suggested.. |
| 05:35.32 | powder | lol |
| 05:35.35 | streuner | haha, 5 year warranty :-)) |
| 05:35.46 | streuner | you prolly mis-read that |
| 05:35.49 | powder | jshriver, why did you bother recompiling the kernel? |
| 05:35.58 | jshriver | well I'd understand if that kernel is messed up.. but why would older kernels that use to work no longer work |
| 05:36.07 | jshriver | powder to get my bttv card working |
| 05:36.16 | jm_ | streuner: no, most manufacturers now have 5 year warranty as an option, or for expensive drives |
| 05:36.23 | liable | jshriver: so, remove said kernel, and install a debian 2.6 image. do you have a *real* reason to compile one? |
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| 05:36.51 | streuner | jm_: which HD have a lifetime of 5 years... |
| 05:36.57 | jshriver | liable: to fine tune the kernel so I can have what I want compiled in and the rest as modules? dont understand question. |
| 05:36.58 | liable | root__: you need to log in as a user |
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| 05:37.09 | jshriver | I upgrade gcc.. so wondering if that's a problem |
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| 05:37.58 | jm_ | streuner: I am using 6G IDE disk in my firewal which was bought way before 2000, I also use my old 80G disk in it which was bought somewhere in 2002 I think |
| 05:38.24 | jshriver | wow lots of space for a firewall :) biiiig logs |
| 05:39.07 | streuner | jm_: yes, for server, desktop-systems are different |
| 05:39.10 | jshriver | can someone do me a quick favor... give me the direct URL for the Debian 3.1a DVD iso disk 1? I dont want to try looking for it via lynx |
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| 05:39.35 | jm_ | streuner: my workstation was bought in 2002, I still use it |
| 05:39.45 | jshriver | going to wipe/reload this systems... it's been quirky anyway. |
| 05:40.11 | streuner | jm_: what model (80G)? |
| 05:40.39 | jshriver | what is the latest version of Debian stable? still 3.1a? |
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| 05:40.50 | powder | jshriver, you want sarge? |
| 05:40.56 | jshriver | whatever is the most current stable |
| 05:41.06 | spoonered | do any of you use GUI's or is the command line where its at? |
| 05:41.13 | jshriver | both |
| 05:41.20 | powder | both is where it's at |
| 05:41.22 | jshriver | GUI is nice for Firefox, etc.. but most work is cli at least for me. |
| 05:41.32 | jm_ | streuner: no, 60G |
| 05:41.49 | gfn | how do you add a user as a sudoer? |
| 05:42.03 | jshriver | vim /etc/sudoers *think* might be wrong |
| 05:42.27 | spoonered | cool I have tones to learn. I'm off. l8r |
| 05:42.31 | gfn | im there |
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| 05:42.33 | jshriver | gluck :) |
| 05:42.36 | gfn | but how do you add it though |
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| 05:42.54 | kritical | Can someone tell me... is SATA supported by the current sarge release? |
| 05:43.01 | jm_ | kritical: of course it is |
| 05:43.10 | streuner | heh |
| 05:43.14 | jshriver | I forget the exact syntax.. but you would add a line like gfn ALL=(ALL) ALL.. |
| 05:43.19 | jshriver | without .. |
| 05:43.53 | powder | sudo sux :P |
| 05:44.06 | kritical | The reason I ask is because I can't see my SATA drive.. fdisk -l doesn't display anything... at well |
| 05:44.11 | kritical | *at all |
| 05:44.14 | streuner | kmuto just created a d-i with 2.6.15 kernel for sarge |
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| 05:44.37 | powder | kritical, i was able to install sarge on my sata drive ok |
| 05:45.38 | kritical | How can I list my harddrives |
| 05:45.43 | streuner | kritical: look for kmuto's d-i then |
| 05:45.48 | streuner | fdisk -l |
| 05:45.58 | kritical | streuner: that doesn't display anything =( |
| 05:45.59 | jshriver | What is the latest linux kernel in debian? going to try istalling it |
| 05:46.01 | jshriver | 2.6.??? |
| 05:46.07 | tarzeau | jshriver: in sid? |
| 05:46.07 | streuner | of course |
| 05:46.09 | jshriver | package name.. |
| 05:46.11 | jshriver | stable.. |
| 05:46.13 | tarzeau | packages.debian.org |
| 05:46.19 | tarzeau | jshriver: oh , very old stuff |
| 05:46.23 | jshriver | I'm in cli right now.. can't browse lynx blows |
| 05:46.35 | tarzeau | 2.6.8 for 2.6.x |
| 05:46.39 | jshriver | k thanks |
| 05:46.41 | tarzeau | jshriver: try links2 |
| 05:46.48 | tarzeau | jshriver: it can browse graphically even in cli |
| 05:46.54 | tarzeau | jshriver: using fb or svgalib |
| 05:46.58 | streuner | yep, links2 need SSL support |
| 05:47.05 | tarzeau | streuner: it has :) |
| 05:47.13 | streuner | in sarge? |
| 05:47.13 | tarzeau | streuner: it has since two days SSL support. find a sponsor |
| 05:47.21 | streuner | bah |
| 05:47.22 | gfn | when i was trying to install 'nvidia-glx' it says: E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate. |
| 05:47.22 | tarzeau | streuner: well no the license was only updated 3 days ago |
| 05:47.25 | gfn | what's this? |
| 05:47.30 | tarzeau | streuner: i'll do a backport |
| 05:47.41 | tarzeau | streuner: but first it needs to be in sid |
| 05:47.47 | tarzeau | gfn: it's not there |
| 05:47.50 | tarzeau | gfn: #nvidia |
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| 05:48.09 | kritical | Does anyone know why 'fdisk -l' would go straight to a blank line? |
| 05:48.18 | tarzeau | kritical: yes with more than one disk |
| 05:48.37 | gfn | what you mean its not htere? |
| 05:48.40 | jm_ | kritical: cat /proc/partitions |
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| 05:48.56 | tarzeau | gfn: it's not installable now |
| 05:49.01 | tarzeau | gfn: what do you have? testing? |
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| 05:49.59 | tarzeau | streuner: know porn sites that use SSL? |
| 05:50.25 | streuner | tarzeau: no, too expensive ;-) |
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| 05:51.08 | tarzeau | streuner: so what do you need SSL for? |
| 05:51.15 | streuner | tarzeau: elinks didn't work for me, so i cannot check even my bank account at home (desktop-system is broken)... |
| 05:51.42 | streuner | tarzeau: bundle should arrive today... |
| 05:51.43 | tarzeau | streuner: etch? |
| 05:52.05 | streuner | tarzeau: for servers sarge, for desktop-systems sid |
| 05:52.24 | streuner | ... |
| 05:52.32 | k-god | streuner: for servers, italians, for desktops, maple. |
| 05:52.41 | tarzeau | heh |
| 05:53.23 | powder | lol i love this... "if you use debian heres a warning (atleast if you enter the debian channel): dont come in as root, you never hear the end of it, which was very annoying." |
| 05:53.54 | streuner | tarzeau: i cannot use SSL actually on sarge |
| 05:54.15 | streuner | tarzeau: cli |
| 05:54.43 | tarzeau | streuner: but do you have popularity-contest installed already? |
| 05:55.10 | streuner | no |
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| 05:55.17 | ianq | hi |
| 05:55.34 | liable | hola! |
| 05:55.45 | ianq | i'm new to debian/linux and i'm in need of some coaching |
| 05:56.01 | tarzeau | ianq: it's debian gnu |
| 05:56.08 | tarzeau | ianq: linux is just one kernel of it of many |
| 05:56.15 | ianq | tarzeau: yes, but i'm new to linux in general |
| 05:56.23 | ianq | that's what i was hinting at :-) |
| 05:56.24 | streuner | so just ask |
| 05:56.27 | tarzeau | !ask |
| 05:56.28 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 05:56.34 | tarzeau | !topicsmite ianq |
| 05:56.34 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon ianq. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 05:56.48 | streuner | tarzeau: pssst |
| 05:56.49 | k-god | tarzeau: a _little_ patience, please. |
| 05:57.02 | tarzeau | the first thing people should do after /join is /topic and read it |
| 05:57.09 | tarzeau | and check all links in the /topic |
| 05:57.12 | scam | can anyone apt-get vlc |
| 05:57.15 | k-god | ianq: there's some really good documentation at the Debian website. |
| 05:57.25 | tarzeau | k-god: you think he can read? |
| 05:57.31 | streuner | tarzeau: iam not new and didn't read the topic too... |
| 05:57.31 | tarzeau | scam: no |
| 05:57.31 | liable | tarzeau: heh, what dream world do you live in? :) |
| 05:57.34 | ianq | i doubt that the docu can solve my problem |
| 05:57.42 | k-god | tarzeau: and for the rest of 'em, those of us who've been here and know better should practice a little civility. |
| 05:57.45 | liable | ianq: just ask already |
| 05:57.46 | powder | scam, you can get it in sid, but not etch |
| 05:57.49 | ianq | anyone knows about mysql installation and mysqld.sock? |
| 05:57.59 | k-god | ianq: OK, this is the point we suggest you not keep it a secret. |
| 05:58.05 | tarzeau | k-god: heh, true |
| 05:58.21 | tarzeau | liable: you wouldn't want to know :) |
| 05:58.34 | scam | Powder so i cant download if i got etch? |
| 05:58.44 | ianq | k-god: see above, please. |
| 05:58.44 | k-god | ianq: what specifically? |
| 05:58.56 | scam | totem crashes every time i try to use it |
| 05:59.00 | liable | tarzeau: i think you are right actually after reading about your latest prototype concept :) |
| 05:59.08 | scam | is there another good program to use? |
| 05:59.11 | ianq | i googled and read for the last 2 hours and was unable to fix the following problem: |
| 05:59.11 | k-god | !tell ianq about smart questions |
| 05:59.14 | powder | scam, you can enable sid repos in sources.list and apt-get it, but it's not recommended ;) |
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| 05:59.54 | ianq | 060404 0:58:16 mysqld: Can't open file: 'user.MYI'. (errno: 142) |
| 05:59.54 | ianq | 060404 0:58:16 Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: File '/usr/share/mysql/charsets/?.conf' not found (Errcode: 2) |
| 05:59.57 | scam | powder how do i do that? |
| 06:00.01 | kevix | !info vlc testing |
| 06:00.05 | k-god | ianq: there _is_ a general way to ask questions, it's strongly encouraged.... And if the problem's complex, post your commands and any relevant output to paster (/msg dpkg paster). |
| 06:00.13 | tarzeau | !noob |
| 06:00.13 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 06:00.18 | powder | lol |
| 06:00.20 | scam | newb |
| 06:00.28 | k-god | tarzeau: enough already. |
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| 06:00.38 | scam | hahah |
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| 06:00.41 | powder | scam, if you don't know how to do it, then you shouldn't bother |
| 06:00.42 | k-god | ianq: Permissions problem? Does the file exist? |
| 06:00.51 | kevix | !info vlc |
| 06:00.58 | dpkg | vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4.debian-2+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 7864 kB, Installed size: 18252 kB |
| 06:00.59 | ianq | the file exists, i chmod'ed the folder to 777 |
| 06:01.09 | k-god | ianq: don't do that. |
| 06:01.11 | kevix | !info vlc etch |
| 06:01.18 | k-god | ianq: world write is a *very* bad thing. |
| 06:01.42 | tarzeau | streuner: how can i change the !noob to dear visitor. please and thank you gentlemen! |
| 06:01.53 | ianq | i'm aware, but this shows it's not a permission problem |
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| 06:02.03 | liable | ianq: what have you installed or whatever to lead to this situation? |
| 06:02.11 | ianq | i also changed /tmp/ to 755 as suggested on the web |
| 06:02.23 | streuner | tarzeau: dpkg, no factoid is <reply> blah blah |
| 06:02.25 | ianq | liable: i installed mysql-server (get-apt mysql-server) |
| 06:02.26 | k-god | ianq: /tmp *should* be 1777. |
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| 06:02.45 | liable | ianq: thats it? |
| 06:03.05 | powder | get-apt |
| 06:03.12 | ianq | yes |
| 06:03.12 | ianq | i'm trying to set up a webserver for web development |
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| 06:03.27 | ianq | powder: you're right ;-) |
| 06:03.31 | streuner | ianq: don't change permissions on /tmp |
| 06:03.31 | liable | ianq: so this error is with the installation of mysql? |
| 06:03.33 | ianq | apache2 and php work |
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| 06:03.47 | streuner | ianq: you aren't able to boot the system at all then |
| 06:03.53 | ianq | liable: no, the error comes when i want to start the mysql server (mysqld start) |
| 06:04.17 | kevix | scam, read this: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
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| 06:04.23 | liable | ianq: it should be started on install |
| 06:04.38 | ianq | that's when the error occured first |
| 06:04.42 | liable | ianq: paste all relevent output to a paster, re-install mysql |
| 06:04.43 | gfn | where can i find nvidia drivers for debian? |
| 06:04.47 | gfn | is there a package? |
| 06:05.32 | ianq | what's a paster? |
| 06:05.32 | kevix | !info nvidia |
| 06:05.32 | liable | !moo |
| 06:05.32 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 06:05.32 | ianq | i reinstalled mysql about three times using different approaches from the web |
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| 06:05.32 | liable | ianq: ok, so you are installing it from source? |
| 06:05.33 | kevix | !info nvidia |
| 06:05.41 | ianq | liable: apt-get install mysql-server |
| 06:05.50 | liable | !listkeys nvidia |
| 06:05.52 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'nvidia' by key (13 of 74): #debian nvidia drivers ;; #debian nvidia howto ;; #debian nvidia one liner ;; #nvidia ;; _default np nvidia ;; _default nvidia ;; _default nvidia howto ;; _default nvidia-graphics-drivers ;; _default nvidia-installer ;; _default nvidia-installer really sucks ;; _default upgrade nvidia ;; nvidia slow ;; nvidia-graphics-drivers. |
| 06:06.11 | liable | ianq: paste the output from the install to paster |
| 06:06.12 | gfn | !info nvidia-installer |
| 06:06.13 | streuner | what a fun, after he changed the permissions on /tmp too... |
| 06:06.30 | liable | more than likely the problem i guess. |
| 06:06.35 | ianq | liable: what is paster? |
| 06:06.40 | liable | !paste |
| 06:06.40 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 06:06.48 | ianq | ok |
| 06:07.07 | liable | ianq: its a site where you can paste stuff and then tell us the url so we can see it. |
| 06:07.12 | streuner | !unix lessons |
| 06:07.12 | dpkg | unix lessons is, like, (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't be root when you don't have to be |
| 06:07.23 | streuner | ianq: (1) read this |
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| 06:08.04 | ianq | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2285 |
| 06:09.32 | liable | ianq: and whats in syslog? |
| 06:09.49 | ianq | where do i find that one? |
| 06:10.20 | k-god | ianq: logs are in /var/log/ |
| 06:10.21 | liable | ianq: cat /var/log/syslog |less |
| 06:10.29 | k-god | !uuoc liable |
| 06:11.00 | kevix | ianq: syslog = the unix system logging facility/daemon |
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| 06:11.35 | ianq | one moment please |
| 06:11.37 | k-god | ianq: In debian, unlike some other Linuxen, daemons (services) generally have their own logfiles. |
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| 06:11.59 | Gnea | k-god: since when? |
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| 06:12.04 | ianq | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2286 |
| 06:12.23 | liable | k-god: why the name change?? |
| 06:12.26 | k-god | Gnea: since when shat? |
| 06:12.31 | liable | and why god? |
| 06:12.37 | k-god | liable: other machine. k-dog was taken. |
| 06:12.50 | liable | heh |
| 06:13.22 | Gnea | k-god: since when do daemons 'generally' have their own logfiles, and would you please cite such daemons? |
| 06:13.26 | k-god | liable: insult to injury: by someone named Jason, if memory serves. |
| 06:13.32 | Gnea | k-god: (in debian) |
| 06:14.13 | jm_ | samba, squid, apache, privoxy, thttpd, CUPS, exim, dancer-ircd to name a few |
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| 06:14.33 | ianq | oh wait, there is more ;-) |
| 06:14.48 | k-god | Gnea: ok, that wasn't entirely accurate. However mail, apache, database, and similar daemons get split out. Debian also tends to have seperate auth, system, kernel, and daemon (single instance) logs, where on a RH-derived box you'd see IIRC just /var/log/messages. |
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| 06:14.51 | Gnea | jm_: those aren't 'general' daemons, they aren't part of the base system :) |
| 06:15.07 | jm_ | Gnea: very few are in base anyway |
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| 06:15.54 | kevix | k-god: yet another reason to use Debian! |
| 06:16.00 | k-god | Gnea: as jm_ points out, a number of daemons *do* have their own logging, though this may be not entirely Debian specific. |
| 06:16.03 | karsten | kevix: Absolutely. |
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| 06:17.51 | ianq | liable: are you still there? |
| 06:17.55 | Gnea | k-god: ah ok, that makes sense then |
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| 06:18.18 | liable | ianq: yerp |
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| 06:18.45 | ianq | liable: how much of the syslog do you want? |
| 06:19.26 | liable | ianq: the relevent bits? ie mysql stuff. |
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| 06:19.28 | cplx_ | cna someone please assist.. I have setup the users and everything.. they can browse and write to the directories etc... all I wanna do now is; when a user creates a file on the server.. it has full controll but when another user logs in and tries to access that file it cant do anything to it.. |
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| 06:22.06 | Gnea | cplx_: chmod 4711 /home/* |
| 06:22.06 | ianq | liable: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2287 |
| 06:22.45 | cplx_ | Gnea: my samba dir is /storage |
| 06:22.57 | Gnea | cplx_: you didn't mention samba. |
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| 06:23.23 | cplx_ | lol sorry, well its samba.. |
| 06:23.29 | cplx_ | and im accessing via windows |
| 06:23.37 | Gnea | cplx_: see #samba |
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| 06:24.29 | cplx_ | Gnea: you cant help me with the permissions? would it be chown *:* /storage |
| 06:24.30 | cplx_ | ? |
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| 06:26.39 | cplx_ | Gnea: ? |
| 06:27.01 | ianq | liable: are you finding anything? |
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| 06:28.29 | lehel | hello |
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| 06:29.24 | liable | ianq: looking at scripts and not seeing anything that jumps out me. no idea atm. |
| 06:29.26 | k-god | !hi lehel |
| 06:29.53 | lehel | is there another way to install deb that from the netinst-cd? |
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| 06:31.14 | kevix | lehel: there is: sarge cd/etch cd/netinst-cd/businesscard iso/... |
| 06:31.41 | liable | lehel: yes, floppies, usb key, debootstrap, deb-takover, etc |
| 06:31.51 | kevix | lehel: if you go to the debian.org site, you can see more info... |
| 06:32.22 | kevix | lehel: and an install fest! |
| 06:32.34 | lehel | fest? |
| 06:32.47 | kevix | !info installfest |
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| 06:33.04 | bleaked | hello, in the /etc/hdparm.conf file..one can run the hdparm command straight up by putting the command in the command_line bracket...if i wanted to run multiple commands, do i add another command_line bracket, go to the next line, or add an && and then the command? |
| 06:33.08 | liable | ianq: whats ls -l /tmp say? |
| 06:33.31 | kevix | lehel: if there is any linux user groups in your area, they can help you install linux on your computer |
| 06:33.39 | ianq | one moment |
| 06:33.58 | ianq | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2288 |
| 06:34.14 | kevix | lehel: an install fest is like a party where folks help you install linux |
| 06:34.22 | jm_ | bleaked: yes, but keep in mind that it will use the settings set prior to the command |
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| 06:34.46 | lehel | kevix: i want to install on my laptop.. no floppy, unfortunately i don't have even an usb-stick upon me.. |
| 06:35.01 | lehel | i ment if i could boot the iso from the hdd |
| 06:35.09 | jm_ | bleaked: ahh no, ignore me, it will use the exact command line |
| 06:35.25 | bleaked | jm_. yea, i noticed that..i want to issue a command to multiple devices..so it shouldn't affect it, correct? and your answer was vague..how to i add multiple commands |
| 06:35.28 | bleaked | oh.. |
| 06:35.29 | bleaked | so.. |
| 06:35.30 | kevix | lehel: does you machine have sata? |
| 06:35.41 | lehel | i'm already i kinda linux-user, but never happend my netinst cd has broken |
| 06:35.49 | lehel | nope |
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| 06:36.12 | lehel | i made 3 partitions.. |
| 06:36.25 | jm_ | bleaked: just add as many as you want, but you could simply add multiple devices and it would work the same way |
| 06:36.28 | lehel | i thought i could copy the iso to a partition... boot that and install |
| 06:36.43 | liable | ianq: er, ls -ld /tmp |
| 06:37.15 | unix_infidel | how do i remove the line in bmp in the playlist? |
| 06:37.16 | ianq | debian:/home/jan/Desktop# ls -ld /tmp |
| 06:37.16 | ianq | drwxrwxrwx 16 root root 4096 2006-04-04 01:25 /tmp |
| 06:37.35 | bleaked | jm_. well, it's hard drives and optical drives |
| 06:37.38 | lehel | kevix: i thought i could copy the iso to a partition... boot that and install |
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| 06:37.56 | liable | lehel: you have another distro on it? |
| 06:37.56 | jm_ | bleaked: doesn't make a difference |
| 06:38.02 | gfn | how do you reconfigure X ? |
| 06:38.15 | lehel | liable: yes, but not linux |
| 06:38.25 | liable | lehel: windows? |
| 06:38.33 | lehel | yap |
| 06:38.44 | liable | lehel: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html |
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| 06:41.16 | lehel | thanks liable, seems to bea solution |
| 06:41.28 | lehel | the only solution ;) |
| 06:41.29 | kevix | liable: cool! bookmarked! |
| 06:41.37 | liable | ianq: chmod 1777 /tmp |
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| 06:41.45 | ianq | 1777? |
| 06:41.47 | liable | kevix: its a nice howto that one :) |
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| 06:42.07 | unix_infidel | how do i remove the line in bmp in the playlist? |
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| 06:42.24 | piper14 | hi all |
| 06:42.47 | piper14 | i from in argentina |
| 06:42.48 | kevix | unix_infidel: with an eraser? x-) |
| 06:42.57 | Serial | hi piper14 |
| 06:42.59 | unix_infidel | kevix: eh? |
| 06:43.09 | unix_infidel | meaning its part of the pixmap of the background/? |
| 06:43.31 | unix_infidel | i'm trying to use an xmms fork that has a bit better preference management and browsing. |
| 06:43.58 | gfn | how do you reconfigure X ? |
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| 06:44.33 | kevix | unix_infidel: as we speak I am installing it... |
| 06:44.39 | chealer | !drxx gfn |
| 06:44.39 | dpkg | gfn: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 06:45.06 | piper14 | Serial: hi, how are you |
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| 06:45.18 | jeeves_Moss | all: hello all |
| 06:45.44 | jeeves_Moss | hell? |
| 06:45.54 | liable | o |
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| 06:46.13 | jeeves_Moss | all: any one know how to complealy purge php and apabce? |
| 06:46.55 | Serial | ;) |
| 06:46.56 | kevix | liable: is that a donut! |
| 06:47.25 | jeeves_Moss | liable: do you now how to remove PHP and apache? |
| 06:47.33 | liable | kevix: (o) <-- thats a donut :) |
| 06:47.43 | unix_infidel | kevix: what do you think of bmp? |
| 06:47.46 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: dpkg and apt-get have two options: remove and purge. use the purge option. |
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| 06:48.05 | kevix | unix_infidel: still downloading..... |
| 06:48.10 | gfn | how come 'dpkg-reconfigure' doesn't work on mine? |
| 06:48.11 | unix_infidel | lol, wow. |
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| 06:48.25 | liable | jeeves_Moss: apt-get purge apache php-4.0?? |
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| 06:48.39 | kevix | unix_infidel: I have orpheus, quod libet, moc, ... so far |
| 06:48.48 | ianq | liable: are you out of ideas? |
| 06:48.59 | jeeves_Moss | liable: it dosen't like the purge command |
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| 06:49.55 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: what was the command you used? what was the error? |
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| 06:50.07 | jeeves_Moss | liable: I've been having problems with apache and php serving up PHP pages in firefox localy. So I think I'm just going to clear everything out and try again |
| 06:50.17 | liable | ianq: yes. when you say that you only installed mysql, is that it? no old installs, no other factors? |
| 06:50.27 | jeeves_Moss | Kevix: apt-get purge apache php-4 and it spits back E: Invalid operaton purge |
| 06:50.35 | ianq | liable: yep |
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| 06:50.50 | ianq | and there is no mysqld.sock file anywhere |
| 06:50.51 | liable | jeeves_Moss: my bad, (used to aptitude) apt-get remove --purge apacha |
| 06:51.02 | ianq | unfortunately, i'm unable to download one off the web |
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| 06:51.13 | liable | apache too |
| 06:51.35 | ianq | is that a question directed at me? |
| 06:51.40 | jm_ | ianq: I think it creates the socket in /var/run by default, netstat will help you |
| 06:51.40 | liable | ianq: did you chmod /tmp like i suggested? |
| 06:51.44 | ianq | yes |
| 06:51.45 | liable | ianq: no |
| 06:51.53 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: according to 'man apt-get', you need '--purge', not 'purge' |
| 06:52.20 | liable | ianq: try a purge and re-install |
| 06:52.25 | ianq | how? |
| 06:52.26 | jeeves_Moss | Kevix: are you able (time wise) to help me rin through a good install of apache and PHP? |
| 06:52.30 | gfn | how come 'dpkg-reconfigure' doesn't work on mine? |
| 06:52.59 | jm_ | !tell gfn -about xmd5 |
| 06:53.28 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: not an expert on php/apache. only can help on apt-get errors and such. |
| 06:53.44 | optraz | anybody know how to check for scsi drive? for ide, it is hdparm |
| 06:53.55 | chealer | gfn: what do you mean? |
| 06:54.00 | jeeves_Moss | Kebix: well, when I try to purge apache apache2 php4 php5 and phpMyAdmin, and it errors out. |
| 06:54.04 | ianq | liable: how? |
| 06:54.04 | kevix | gfn: what commaand did you type? |
| 06:54.24 | liable | ianq: apt-get remove --purge mysql-server |
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| 06:55.14 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: try 'apt-get --purge remove php5' |
| 06:55.15 | jeeves_Moss | Kevix: when I try to purge phpmyadmin, I get /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found |
| 06:55.15 | jeeves_Moss | dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--purge): |
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| 06:56.25 | jeeves_Moss | Kevix: I need to uninstall phpMyAdmin before I can remove everything else. But Its giving me an error code. |
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| 06:57.05 | duanear | Setting up a new Debian server exclusively for downloads. Any problems in going for only 1 partition, mirrored on 2 drives? |
| 06:57.23 | jeeves_Moss | kevix: any ideas? |
| 06:57.24 | ianq | liable: it seems to work :-) |
| 06:57.29 | liable | duanear: what does eclusively for downloads mean? |
| 06:57.35 | liable | ianq: yay :) |
| 06:57.51 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: checking bugs.debian.org |
| 06:57.56 | duanear | liable: will only run apache for serving up files |
| 06:58.06 | duanear | there won't be much else going on outside of htat |
| 06:58.07 | jeeves_Moss | kevix: ok, thanks. I don't mean to be pushy. |
| 06:58.24 | liable | duanear: one partition should be fine. |
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| 07:00.23 | jeeves_Moss | kevix: did you need the eooro code its spitting back? |
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| 07:00.54 | jeeves_Moss | Liable: do you know how to get a windows media stream to play? |
| 07:01.09 | Neverther | jeeves_Moss, use vlc |
| 07:01.12 | jeeves_Moss | Liable: Sorry, I'm running Gnome. |
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| 07:01.24 | streuner | jeeves_Moss: install xine |
| 07:01.29 | omi | Hello, I would like to have VNC started out from inetd, is there a way to limit how many instances can be opened at once? I would like to have limit of 2 for example (on the same port) |
| 07:01.31 | liable | jeeves_Moss: a .pls?? |
| 07:01.38 | streuner | jeeves_Moss: /msg dpkg marillat and install codecs |
| 07:01.42 | jeeves_Moss | Neverther: will it pick up the links in FireFox? |
| 07:01.48 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: you can try to edit the .prerm script and put 'exit 0' on the top line. |
| 07:02.01 | Neverther | jeeves_Moss, no, but vlc-plugin will |
| 07:02.08 | jeeves_Moss | liable: What do I need to do? |
| 07:02.22 | jeeves_Moss | Neverther: how do I install the plug in? |
| 07:02.36 | liable | jeeves_Moss: xmms plays those, but you will need w32codecs if its a wma i guess. |
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| 07:03.17 | jeeves_Moss | liable: I just want to get this damn web server working. I'm getting annoyed with it. I've been working on this for 4 hours now. I REALY want to get it solved. |
| 07:03.39 | EightiesK | !kopete |
| 07:03.40 | dpkg | rumour has it, kopete is KDE's flexible and extendable multiple protocol instant messaging system designed as a plugin-based system. All protocols are plugins and allow modular installation and configuration. http://kopete.kde.org |
| 07:03.49 | liable | jeeves_Moss: what the fuck does a web server have to do with opening a windows media stream? |
| 07:03.53 | Neverther | jeeves_Moss, how abour apt-cache search vlc and then apt-get install vlc-plugin? |
| 07:04.14 | jeeves_Moss | Neverther: ok, I'll try it. |
| 07:04.59 | jeeves_Moss | Neverther: it dosen't like that line. |
| 07:05.23 | EightiesK | i can't get the new kopete to compile |
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| 07:05.39 | Neverther | jeeves_Moss, that's why i put apt-cache search vlc there so you could look the proper name |
| 07:06.35 | jeeves_Moss | Neverther: I think I've got some REALY screwed up crap here. Its telling me that I've got a pooched install of phpMyAdmin, and it won't let me install or remove ANYTHING. |
| 07:06.39 | optraz | anybody know how to check for scsi drive? for ide, it is hdparm |
| 07:07.09 | tarzeau | optraz: there's quite a few scsi tools in debian |
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| 07:07.19 | Neverther | jeeves_Moss, haha dpkg -r --force-all phpmyadmin |
| 07:07.26 | Neverther | or --force-yes |
| 07:08.15 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: what does this show: dpkg --get-selections|grep debconf |
| 07:08.25 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: what does this show: dpkg --get-selections|grep debconf |
| 07:08.33 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: what does this show: dpkg --get-selections|grep debconf |
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| 07:09.05 | kevix | opps. |
| 07:09.22 | zophyx_ | kevix: no problem |
| 07:09.25 | jeeves_Moss | kevix: debconf install |
| 07:09.25 | jeeves_Moss | debconf-i18n install |
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| 07:10.32 | jeeves_Moss | Neverther: ok. I'm lost. Its annoying. I just wanted to listen to streaming audio from our local radio station, not playing around all night. |
| 07:10.40 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: that error relates to 'debconf'. |
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| 07:10.54 | zophyx_ | ummm, update and upgrade ? |
| 07:10.59 | liable | jeeves_Moss: is it mp3 or what? |
| 07:10.59 | jeeves_Moss | kevix: ok, so, how do I fix this mess? |
| 07:11.00 | benley | anyone know how this yaird stuff works? |
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| 07:11.12 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: did you remove phpmyadmin yet? |
| 07:11.18 | EightiesK | !deb install |
| 07:11.20 | jeeves_Moss | liable: the URL is www.z1035.com and www.cjoy.com |
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| 07:11.33 | benley | I'm trying to pass parameters to modules that load during the initramfs stage of boot. Do I just stick stuff in /etc/modprobe.d/modulename and dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-2.6.whatever? |
| 07:11.53 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: 'apt-get install --reinstall debconf |
| 07:11.59 | jeeves_Moss | Kevix: I tried to do it, and it gave me some error code. I think once that its uninstalled, then I can remove the rest of them. |
| 07:12.14 | chealer | !tell EightiesK about msg the bot |
| 07:12.43 | Neverther | jeeves_Moss, what's the error? |
| 07:12.44 | EightiesK | ya i have some debian pkg i dled n i dunno how to install them |
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| 07:12.57 | jeeves_Moss | kevix: it didden't like that. It says its not possible, and I need to run apt-get 0f install to corect these.. then it gives a list. |
| 07:13.02 | Neverther | EightiesK, dpkg -i package.deb |
| 07:13.10 | tarzeau | i hate www.real.com. why don't they just have ftp? |
| 07:13.25 | tarzeau | i can't find the linux binary for realplayer, can someone help me? |
| 07:13.51 | EightiesK | ne1 know a way to install kubuntu's Katapult on debian? |
| 07:13.52 | jeeves_Moss | Nevether: it won't open the streaming audio. If you look @ either of those sites, it'll open a window, and play the windows media player stream. |
| 07:13.56 | kevix | jeeves_Moss: can you join #flood |
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| 07:14.08 | jm_ | benley: no, it's unlikely /etc will be available at that point, you need to ensure these are visibile when ramdisk image is mounted |
| 07:14.14 | jeeves_Moss | kevix: I'm going to see if I can get XChat to open another window. |
| 07:14.28 | benley | jm_: I know - I thought that /etc/modprobe.d was processed by yaird while building the initramfs |
| 07:14.41 | benley | jm_: and that happens when you dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-2.6.whatever, I think. |
| 07:14.42 | jeeves_Moss | kevix: ok, I'l posting it there. |
| 07:14.55 | benley | jm_: I'd love to hear otherwise, because it would give me something to investigate :) |
| 07:14.57 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 07:14.58 | dpkg | <toggle> by the way I don't have man installed.. |
| 07:15.12 | jm_ | benley: hmm the version in Sarge is horribly outdated, let me look at newer one first |
| 07:15.24 | jeeves_Moss | Kevix: there you go. |
| 07:15.37 | benley | jm_: ah, yeah - these tools have changed a lot since sarge's release |
| 07:15.44 | jeeves_Moss | Kevix: I hope thats some help |
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| 07:16.01 | jm_ | benley: yes, and I don't use Debian kernels so I am not too familiar with it |
| 07:16.14 | Neverther | tarzeau, https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/1917/RealPlayer-10.0.7.785-20060201.i586.rpm <--- play with rpmextract |
| 07:16.18 | benley | jm_: I'm building my own kernel, but I like to use the debian tools |
| 07:16.48 | liable | jeeves_Moss: write to them and tell them not every loser has windows media player, i am buggered if i know how the hell to listen to it. |
| 07:17.00 | jm_ | benley: but do you need to use initrd at all? |
| 07:17.21 | benley | jm_: theoretically no. |
| 07:17.45 | benley | jm_: since I'm building my own kernel I should be able to figure out what all I need and link it in at compile time. |
| 07:17.52 | benley | jm_: theoretically :) |
| 07:17.58 | jeeves_Moss | liable: LOL.. well, I'd like to be able to play the stream. |
| 07:18.57 | kozmic | i read on some website that tomcat5 is in respos now. But i cant find it after apt-get update and apt-cache search tomcat |
| 07:19.25 | optraz | tarzeau, can u give me a few example? |
| 07:19.35 | jm_ | benley: it's not too clear about module options |
| 07:19.37 | Coweater | kozmic: what release are you running? |
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| 07:20.04 | AntiFreeze | w |
| 07:20.05 | benley | jm_: yeah, it's all very confusing. I'm dismantling the initrd image from my running kernel to see if my options made it into it or not. |
| 07:20.08 | liable | jeeves_Moss: i dont actually see a stream in the page source even |
| 07:20.35 | jm_ | benley: apparently it's enough if you do it via /etc/modprobe.d like you said |
| 07:20.51 | tarzeau | optraz: for what? |
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| 07:20.56 | benley | jm_: that's really what I thought |
| 07:21.09 | tarzeau | optraz: apt-cache search scsi {util,tool} |
| 07:21.11 | jeeves_Moss | liable: ??? |
| 07:21.13 | jeeves_Moss | you have to look for the "Listen live" |
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| 07:21.29 | benley | jm_: I wonder, then, if the module I'm trying to pass options is actually getting loaded at some other stage |
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| 07:22.11 | optraz | tarzeau, thanks |
| 07:22.14 | Coweater | kozmic: anyhow, it's in testing, if you're running stable you won't get it till etch goes stable, consider a backport if you need it |
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| 07:23.16 | benley | jm_: ok this is crazy - one of the things I'm passing options to shows up with the module options inside the initrd, and the other does not. |
| 07:23.48 | benley | jm_: which means .... it's not being loaded by the initrd init script. Hah. |
| 07:23.50 | jeeves_Moss | all: did you guys know some one blew him self up in a coffee shop in downtown Toronto yesterday? |
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| 07:24.23 | jm_ | benley: is this module mentioned in yaird cfg file? |
| 07:24.25 | jeeves_Moss | Kevix: you still there? |
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| 07:24.55 | benley | jm_: you mean /etc/yaird/*? No, I haven't touched those. |
| 07:25.06 | chealer | jeeves_Moss: this is not a general chatting channel |
| 07:25.11 | kritical | Does anyone know the command to reload the fstab? |
| 07:25.12 | jm_ | benley: yeah, you can specify which modules should be loaded and which are optional |
| 07:25.14 | benley | jm_: I put stuff in /etc/modprobe.d/libata, and that got in to the /init in the initrd.img |
| 07:25.29 | benley | jm_: and I did the same in /etc/modprobe.d/ide, and it did not. |
| 07:25.42 | benley | jm_: I noticed, though, that ide.o is not included in the initrd whereas libata.o is. |
| 07:25.47 | liable | kritical: mount -a for new stuff, or mount -o remount foo for changed shits |
| 07:25.49 | jeeves_Moss | Kevix: Still with me? |
| 07:26.05 | jm_ | benley: yeah I think it will work if you explicitely mention ide to be loaded |
| 07:26.14 | benley | jm_: perhaps, yes :) |
| 07:27.52 | benley | jm_: so it looks like the ide module isn't being loaded until after the root filesystem is mounted, which means I might even be able to just use /etc/modules to send it options |
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| 07:28.26 | jm_ | benley: in that case you can simply use /etc/modules |
| 07:28.27 | summer | s |
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| 07:29.39 | benley | argh, my weird keyboard is coming back to haunt me. I'm attempting to hit backspace with my left thumb. |
| 07:29.49 | kozmic | Coweater: im running 3.1. Could you give me a hint to backport so i can install tomcat (it's just a development server).. |
| 07:30.03 | jm_ | kozmic: /msg dpkg backports |
| 07:30.08 | kozmic | thanks |
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| 07:32.15 | benley | jm_: *sigh* /etc/modules didn't do it |
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| 07:32.24 | benley | jm_: I think forcing yaird to load it might be the ticket |
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| 07:32.54 | saintiss | hi all |
| 07:33.07 | saintiss | is there a way to increase the audio volume if alsamixer is already at max? |
| 07:33.17 | jm_ | benley: do you have any other files, such as /etc/modules-2.6? |
| 07:33.18 | saintiss | (and the speakers as well) |
| 07:33.28 | benley | jm_: I have /etc/modutils |
| 07:33.46 | benley | jm_: which only contains something that an nvidia-kernel package put there |
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| 07:34.15 | jm_ | benley: yeah that's not used for 2.6 |
| 07:34.19 | benley | right. |
| 07:34.40 | kevix | saintiss: powered speaker or (like I do) hook up your audio output to a stereo reciever |
| 07:34.52 | karl_ | What is the right way to set locale for a user in debian I want to set it for the user , not globaly |
| 07:35.02 | saintiss | kevix, ok, but no software-based solutions then? |
| 07:35.35 | jm_ | karl_: shell startup files |
| 07:35.40 | benley | saintiss: you can use a software preamp, but that's just going to introduce distortion |
| 07:35.41 | Knorrie_ | !fsck dutch power companies |
| 07:35.42 | dpkg | e2fsck /dev/dutch power companies : warning! filesystem contains dumbasses! |
| 07:35.46 | benley | saintiss: or compression at best |
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| 07:36.05 | saintiss | right... |
| 07:36.06 | saintiss | ok thanks |
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| 07:36.21 | kritical | Does anyone know how to add an xhost automatically on startup? |
| 07:36.42 | AntiFreeze | you mean in your .bash_profile or .xinitrc? |
| 07:36.45 | benley | simonrvn: if you've got the sound card turned up as far as it's going to go, that's as loud as it's going to get without external amplification |
| 07:37.24 | kevix | karl_: set 'LC_ALL=...,LANGUAGE,...' in .bashrc |
| 07:37.43 | kritical | AntiFreeze: I have no idea.. it's for VNC to allow another hosts to startup application |
| 07:37.48 | SonnyBurnett | can you tell me how to calibrate my touchpad? |
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| 07:40.28 | AntiFreeze | kritical: are you trying to connect from your machine to another remote X server, or have someone else be able to connect to yours? |
| 07:41.53 | kritical | AntiFreeze: connect to mine from another pc |
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| 07:44.04 | tarzeau | why does gnomebaker work as root and crash as user? |
| 07:44.30 | kritical | tarzeau: your cd rom hasn't been setup to allow users to burn |
| 07:44.32 | PSG|Tartiflette | hi everyone |
| 07:44.52 | PSG|Tartiflette | somebody know how i can test openldap ? |
| 07:45.02 | PSG|Tartiflette | i install it with kerberos and i would test it |
| 07:45.11 | tarzeau | kritical: yes it is: brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 Apr 3 11:16 /dev/hdc |
| 07:45.16 | tarzeau | kritical: and i'm in cdrom group |
| 07:45.31 | tarzeau | kritical: cdrecord/xcdroast work. but i need be able to burn dvd . as user. |
| 07:45.45 | tarzeau | kritical: and k3b the idiot asks for a root password. we can't give the root password to 3000 users |
| 07:45.46 | AntiFreeze | kritical: just put xhost in your .xinitrc or .xsession |
| 07:46.08 | tarzeau | is there no idiot-proof gui cd/dvd burner aside k3b and gnomebaker? |
| 07:46.10 | tarzeau | one that just works? |
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| 07:46.25 | kritical | tarzeau: hmm.. you're way past me =) |
| 07:46.32 | mo1991 | where is the rc.pcmcia file in debian sarge? |
| 07:46.50 | kritical | AntiFreeze: Thanks.. I'll have a play around |
| 07:46.57 | mo1991 | or what file replaces rc.pcmcia in sarge? |
| 07:46.58 | Neverther | tarzeau, nautilus-csburner :D, no need for root password os sudo (here atleast) |
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| 07:47.08 | Neverther | cdburner* |
| 07:47.10 | tarzeau | Neverther: i'll try that , right after gcombust |
| 07:47.25 | streuner | hehe |
| 07:47.35 | streuner | tarzeau: you know what that means then? |
| 07:47.40 | liable | tarzeau: growisofs works as user? |
| 07:47.53 | tarzeau | gcombust seems only to be for CD and not DVD |
| 07:47.59 | tarzeau | streuner: no? |
| 07:47.59 | streuner | heh |
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| 07:48.16 | tarzeau | liable: yes of course |
| 07:48.26 | streuner | tarzeau: you have to install nautilus and a lot fo GTK-files too ;-) |
| 07:48.37 | PSG|Tartiflette | when i do a "ldapsearch" it's say " ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s : internal ( implementation specific) error 80 additional info : SASL (-13): user not found : no secret in database |
| 07:48.37 | tarzeau | i just hope this nautilus crap won't take down my X server |
| 07:48.42 | liable | tarzeau: and cdrecord?? no reason why k3b shouldnt work as user.. |
| 07:48.47 | streuner | haha |
| 07:48.57 | tarzeau | streuner: you know our installs are 10gb... it's all there already: gnome and kde (but we don't support it, of course) |
| 07:49.05 | tarzeau | streuner: if the users whines, he gets an empty home directory |
| 07:49.10 | mo1991 | I am having problems with pcmcia choosing the wrong irq - I need to remove the rc.pcmcia file or equivilant so that it is replaced with the proper settings from pcmcia-cs |
| 07:49.14 | mo1991 | anyone help here? |
| 07:49.25 | tarzeau | liable: xcdroast works. that's what we support. yes cdrecord too |
| 07:49.42 | PSG|Tartiflette | Xteven i need you :) |
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| 07:49.53 | streuner | and you can't use xcdroast for burning DVD's? |
| 07:49.53 | liable | tarzeau: whats the problem then? |
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| 07:50.03 | jm_ | liable: it doesn't work as user for me, something about priority IIRC |
| 07:50.05 | liable | oh doesnt do dvd's? |
| 07:50.06 | streuner | liable: CD are good, DVD's not |
| 07:50.10 | tarzeau | liable: gnomebacker just crashes and k3b asks for the root password |
| 07:50.47 | liable | jm_: xcdroast? k3b burns dvd's for me without password. |
| 07:50.52 | jm_ | liable: growisofs |
| 07:50.54 | tarzeau | hilarious. how to use nautilus-cd-thingy? |
| 07:50.59 | Neverther | tarzeau, are the users in "disk" group? |
| 07:51.03 | tarzeau | that's harder than the commandline |
| 07:51.07 | liable | jm_: growisofs works for me too. |
| 07:51.07 | tarzeau | Neverther: of course NOT |
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| 07:51.16 | tarzeau | Neverther: WTF DO YOU THINK WE ARE IDIOTS? |
| 07:51.29 | streuner | hm |
| 07:51.30 | jm_ | liable: yeah but I have a newer kernel where they have mocked with it, 2.6.15 |
| 07:51.42 | jm_ | liable: is it installed suid root? |
| 07:51.42 | Neverther | tarzeau, why not :p, then there wouln't be a need to ask root passwd |
| 07:51.46 | liable | jm_: ah, still 2.6.8 and 2.6.14 here. |
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| 07:52.02 | liable | jm_: cdrecord, yes |
| 07:52.02 | tarzeau | Neverther: i think it's a problem with the software k3b and gnomebaker |
| 07:52.07 | tarzeau | Neverther: not one of a user (me) |
| 07:52.18 | boguh | i need help, i created a cron job some time ago and dont know how to delete it |
| 07:52.22 | streuner | tarzeau: both? pretty unusual then... |
| 07:52.30 | jm_ | liable: no I meant growisofs |
| 07:52.41 | streuner | !maint k3b |
| 07:52.41 | tarzeau | streuner: gnomebaker just crashes with a moron error msg, and k3b asks for a root password |
| 07:52.44 | Neverther | boguh, into crontab or where? |
| 07:52.44 | dpkg | k3b: Jean-Michel Kelbert <kelbert@debian.org> |
| 07:52.54 | streuner | !maint gnomebaker |
| 07:52.54 | tarzeau | and that's all sarge. |
| 07:52.57 | dpkg | gnomebaker: Goedson Teixeira Paixao <goedson@debian.org> |
| 07:53.02 | streuner | nah |
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| 07:53.17 | tarzeau | streuner: i mean did you check BTS for the packages? |
| 07:53.18 | boguh | Neverther i only know that it checks mail every 5 minutes |
| 07:53.33 | liable | jm_: i cant remember it asking for growisofs. |
| 07:53.40 | liable | jm_: only cdrecord. |
| 07:53.47 | streuner | tarzeau: well, that makes no sense to me |
| 07:53.48 | jm_ | liable: right, it's that one that fails for me |
| 07:53.54 | Neverther | boguh, well, try "crontab -e "as the user |
| 07:54.06 | tarzeau | streuner: i guess i'll just remove them all and sell the drives |
| 07:54.16 | liable | jm_: cdrecord is suid for you? (no idea if its tied together) |
| 07:54.22 | streuner | tarzeau: so sarge? |
| 07:54.26 | boguh | Neverther one entry |
| 07:54.29 | tarzeau | streuner: yes sarge |
| 07:54.35 | kritical | I'm trying to mount my NTFS partition... does anyone know how to mount it so that all users can access it? |
| 07:54.45 | jm_ | liable: yes, but the issue is not with cdrecord ;) |
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| 07:55.08 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : I'm around, but not always looking at irc |
| 07:55.16 | liable | jm_: yes, but how do you set growisofs suid? i dont recall it asking and you cant reconfigure it. |
| 07:55.17 | PSG|Tartiflette | ok |
| 07:55.26 | boguh | Neverther can i just delete it? |
| 07:55.31 | PSG|Tartiflette | can you help me a little now or are you busy ? |
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| 07:56.14 | Neverther | boguh, if, its the one you wan't to remove? |
| 07:56.14 | jm_ | liable: yeah it doesn't ask about it, I guess one could do it manually (I haven't done it and that's why it doesn't work for me, I only mentioned it because tarzeau said it works for him as user) |
| 07:56.32 | boguh | Neverther it is |
| 07:56.34 | gfn | is there any way to force X to set resolution ? |
| 07:56.35 | Neverther | tarzeau, how about if the users are in "optical" group? |
| 07:56.43 | Neverther | boguh, well remove it then? |
| 07:57.03 | tarzeau | Neverther: grep optical /etc/group ... doesn't exist |
| 07:57.30 | tarzeau | jm_: 2.6 or 2.4 kernel? with or without scsi-ide? |
| 07:57.44 | Neverther | tarzeau, optical:!:93:hal,never <--- i got one, and it allows me to write cds and stuff |
| 07:57.55 | tarzeau | Neverther: you have debian? |
| 07:58.10 | jm_ | tarzeau: 2.6.15, no ide-scsi stuff |
| 07:58.30 | tarzeau | jm_: we've got 2.4.33-pre1 still everywhere... |
| 07:58.43 | jm_ | tarzeau: yeah that's different |
| 07:58.52 | Neverther | tarzeau, im ex-debianer, remember some and xchat autojoins here :p, arch here (hell faster than debian) |
| 07:58.52 | tarzeau | it's horrible. also with usb... |
| 07:59.23 | tarzeau | Neverther: what was the reason to not use debian anymore? runtime speed? |
| 07:59.26 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : bit busy atm, but I'm sure other people can answer any questions you may have :) just ask |
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| 07:59.45 | PSG|Tartiflette | i ask but nobody answer me |
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| 08:00.48 | Neverther | tarzeau, my debian was kinda kinkym and i've found arch way nicer, thus i haveto configure about all myself, all works much better |
| 08:00.55 | Neverther | -m |
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| 08:00.58 | liable | jm_: never set anything on growisofs, and works me. *shrug* |
| 08:01.04 | liable | TM |
| 08:01.12 | Xteven | PSG|Tartiflette : what do you want to ask ? |
| 08:01.20 | gfn | how come 1024x768 61Hz is the only max of my vid card? |
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| 08:01.42 | streuner | gfn: driver limitation? |
| 08:01.46 | Neverther | reddick, root? |
| 08:01.48 | PSG|Tartiflette | when i do a "ldapsearch" it's say " ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s : internal ( implementation specific) error 80 additional info : SASL (-13): user not found : no secret in database |
| 08:01.50 | jm_ | liable: there are some patches out there, possibly applied to your kernels |
| 08:01.51 | gfn | i installed everything |
| 08:01.55 | SonnyBurnett | hi, I just installed gsynaptics, but it doesnt work... it tells me to put SHMConfig "true" in xorg.conf.... I did but it still doesnt work, any idea? |
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| 08:02.22 | streuner | gfn: you should be able to use more than 61Hz |
| 08:02.24 | jelly | PSG|Tartiflette: you _might_ have more luck at #ldap |
| 08:02.45 | liable | jm_: sarge kernel, and a vanilla 2.6.14. |
| 08:02.52 | PSG|Tartiflette | ok thanks jelly |
| 08:02.59 | gfn | is it because i have both nvidia-kernel-2.4.27-2-686 and 386 installed? |
| 08:03.00 | jm_ | liable: I will check the details when I try to burn it next time |
| 08:03.19 | hcy | hi, i did an apt-get upgrade and got this error. What do I do about it, please? "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-5_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/include/X11', which is also in package libxft-dev System startup links for /etc/init.d/x11-common already exist." |
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| 08:03.26 | liable | jm_: hrm, gonna try k3b on my server and see what it says. |
| 08:03.37 | chealer | gfn: unlikely |
| 08:04.03 | Neverther | lol, no need for nvidia-kernels here :p nvidia starts at boot and checks modules, if not found it compiles them, and if found it doesn't do anything :D |
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| 08:04.12 | liable | maybe later, my account is shaped atm. |
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| 08:04.19 | gfn | ? |
| 08:04.23 | gfn | you think so? |
| 08:04.29 | naoshige | hello |
| 08:04.37 | SonnyBurnett | !gsynaptics |
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| 08:04.40 | naoshige | anybody familiar with wget? |
| 08:04.47 | hcy | naoshige: sure |
| 08:04.51 | dannyp | just ask your question |
| 08:04.55 | naoshige | i'm at this school, and it has a website where it puts out all its articles on all its subjects. i just used wget -m --user=blah --password=blah --user-agent=blah http://www.site.com but it's been mirroring for hours, already downloaded 1.6gb of javascript documents and a whole lot of shit. is there any way to make it only download what's visible (such as all the articles) in pure text? |
| 08:05.21 | naoshige | each article is named like index.html?Oppslag=Hovedform and when i try to view it with w3m i just see tons of useless code... |
| 08:05.30 | chealer | !tell SonnyBurnett about msg the bot |
| 08:05.32 | jm_ | liable: I always use it from command line |
| 08:06.12 | liable | jm_: ok, funny, both my boxes work from growisofs, and my lappie also from k3b. (no passwrd) |
| 08:06.13 | hcy | naoshige: not sure. you can use -A to tell it to only downlolad files with a certain extension, or -R to reject certain ones |
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| 08:06.34 | jm_ | liable: what command did you use? |
| 08:06.42 | LaidBack_01 | anyone trying to run the cheetah templates on Debian? I installed cheetah from apt, however something's up, because whenever i attempt to do something with Cheetah, I get this: ImportError: No module named Cheetah.Template |
| 08:06.43 | SonnyBurnett | can somebody help me to make work "gsynaptics" ? |
| 08:06.54 | mxktmdude | does the business card debian install *require* a network card? |
| 08:07.10 | streuner | it would help |
| 08:07.12 | naoshige | :/ |
| 08:07.24 | hcy | jm_: do you know about this apt-get problem? "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-5_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/include/X11', which is also in package libxft-dev System startup links for /etc/init.d/x11-common already exist." |
| 08:07.37 | liable | jm_: normally just growisofs -Z /dev/hdc|a -R -J /foo |
| 08:07.49 | streuner | !xfree->xorg |
| 08:07.50 | mxktmdude | id rather not burn 15 cds for a minimum debian install :/ |
| 08:07.54 | streuner | fuck |
| 08:08.00 | Ketter | hardly |
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| 08:08.28 | streuner | dpkg, hi |
| 08:08.28 | dpkg | salut |
| 08:08.35 | liable | mxktmdude: business card yes, netinst gives you base without net, and iso1 will give you gnome/kde without net |
| 08:08.36 | streuner | dpkg, xfree->xorg |
| 08:08.36 | dpkg | if you getting depends problems upgrading xfree86 to xorg (x11-common) use apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite"' -f install |
| 08:08.43 | jm_ | hcy: did you check BTS? |
| 08:08.45 | streuner | hcy: ^^^^^ |
| 08:08.52 | streuner | jm_: no need to |
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| 08:09.19 | hcy | thanks streuner |
| 08:09.20 | mxktmdude | oh so if i use the netinst i wont need network card? i thought that it installed from the net? |
| 08:09.43 | jm_ | liable: I'll do more tests |
| 08:09.45 | fireba11 | question: does anyone know how to monitor HD temperature for SATA HDs ? it seems smartmontools are not working with those |
| 08:09.49 | liable | mxktmdude: as i said, it will give you *base*, ie, no x or much else |
| 08:09.54 | jm_ | fireba11: they are working with 2.6.15 |
| 08:10.10 | mxktmdude | hmm ok, i'll give that installer a whirl then |
| 08:10.15 | fireba11 | jm_ so i (just) need a new kernel for it to work ? |
| 08:10.29 | jm_ | fireba11: more or less, but I have found that there are still issues |
| 08:10.37 | fireba11 | jm_ like what ? |
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| 08:12.07 | jm_ | fireba11: wait a sec |
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| 08:14.04 | jm_ | fireba11: kernel: ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/04 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/00/00 |
| 08:14.50 | fireba11 | jm_ that doesn't look very nice |
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| 08:16.14 | jm_ | fireba11: that's why I have disabled munin graph for it |
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| 08:17.05 | fireba11 | jm_ hm .. that's what i inteded to do .. make munin hdtemp work with sata HDs ... |
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| 08:17.22 | codenamewilley | hello everyone |
| 08:17.36 | jm_ | fireba11: :) |
| 08:17.40 | phrosty | has anyone got debian to install in virtual server? |
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| 08:18.50 | codenamewilley | I have compiled a kernel 2.6 for debian now i have a problem in adding it into grub |
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| 08:19.18 | codenamewilley | in the kernel doc it was said run make install do add in grub |
| 08:19.32 | billybob | is there a way to re run that system set up program? |
| 08:19.34 | shell909090 | phrosty, i had install it in vmware |
| 08:19.42 | phrosty | me too |
| 08:19.59 | streuner | billybob: apt-setup |
| 08:20.00 | phrosty | but it freezes for me at various points of the installer in virtual server :( |
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| 08:20.08 | shell909090 | but i up my computer 2 amd64 |
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| 08:20.19 | billybob | streuner: command not found it says |
| 08:20.20 | shell909090 | so vmware not working |
| 08:20.34 | streuner | billybob: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
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| 08:20.44 | faber2 | good morning |
| 08:21.04 | liable | codenamewilley: um, no. kpkg does, make doesnt. |
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| 08:21.19 | shell909090 | billybob, try change grub.conf manual |
| 08:21.26 | faber2 | whats the best tool to link init.d script to the runlevel directories in debian? i am unhappy with rcconf, and i dont understand where rcconf takes the priority number from for the scripts |
| 08:21.46 | liable | faber2: update-rc.d |
| 08:22.19 | faber2 | mmhh... anything with ncurses support? |
| 08:22.23 | billybob | streuner: what did i just do? lol |
| 08:22.31 | shell909090 | phrosty, what step did u freeze? |
| 08:22.43 | liable | faber2: huh? no. |
| 08:23.10 | phrosty | usually on initializing libc6, but it sometimes gets one or two steps beyond that |
| 08:23.16 | codenamewilley | when i do make install it says to point ypur default entry point in menu.lst to /boot/arch/i386/boot/bzImage-2.6.8 |
| 08:23.34 | codenamewilley | but then what about initrd? |
| 08:23.34 | faber2 | liable: under redhat you could write the runlevels INSIDE the init.d script and use a nice ncurses tool to switch them on/off |
| 08:23.42 | codenamewilley | would that remain same |
| 08:23.44 | codenamewilley | would that remain same? |
| 08:23.58 | shell909090 | phrosty , did u mount u cd disk right? |
| 08:24.09 | phrosty | yea |
| 08:24.11 | liable | faber2: well, this isnt redhat.. :) check sysvconfig out. |
| 08:24.21 | shell909090 | that's funny |
| 08:24.24 | kevix | faber2: debian does not have chkconfig x-( |
| 08:24.37 | shell909090 | try some other OS in protected mode |
| 08:24.49 | codenamewilley | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.54 | shell909090 | maybe u vm has something wrong |
| 08:24.57 | faber2 | liable: i know its not. and i like debian much better. but the redhat way of putting the runlevels as remarks inside the init.d scripts i liked a lot |
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| 08:25.14 | shell909090 | if it's right...eh...try download debian again |
| 08:25.52 | liable | faber2: debian puts links in the rc.d dirs for each runlevel. its pretty easy once you understand it |
| 08:26.32 | faber2 | liable: i understand it. but with the debian solution i have to remember priorities and runlevels |
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| 08:26.49 | faber2 | liable: with chkconfig in redhat i dont have to remember that |
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| 08:27.24 | liable | faber2: ffs, its different. live withor go back to redhat.. what do you want me to say?? http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-customizing.en.html |
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| 08:27.36 | kimo | if someone asks 'why is linux a good choice for military applications?' Any ideas about the answer ? |
| 08:28.15 | mo1991 | i use the i82365 pcmcia driver from the pcmcia-cs package - I get a irq conflict says have irq 5 wants irq 11 - anyone know how to help me here I had this working before |
| 08:28.16 | codenamewilley | coz it free.and militarys are mony moggers |
| 08:28.22 | codenamewilley | money* |
| 08:28.33 | billybob | anybody know how i can make debian redetect my hardware? like my network card |
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| 08:28.35 | shell909090 | kimo: no one can insert unsecure code in it |
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| 08:28.54 | liable | mo1991: you can supply irq at module loading time. |
| 08:29.09 | kimo | ok ... money & code-audit ... any other ideas .. What can be done with Linux, that cant be with windows |
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| 08:29.43 | faber2 | liable: debian is cool. its just that little thing i was looking for. dont worry. i stay with debian. (if only my customers would ...) |
| 08:29.52 | nkuttler | billybob: what do you mean? |
| 08:30.09 | kevix | kimo: it can be used to create a real-time os. look at redhawk linux. |
| 08:30.09 | shell909090 | kimo: u should ask what can do in windows but don't work out in linux |
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| 08:30.28 | billybob | nkuttler: i changed my network card |
| 08:30.36 | mo1991 | liable - can you please explain how I do this? I have been having a very hard time with this laptop |
| 08:30.40 | kimo | kevix: thank u for that |
| 08:30.55 | codenamewilley | can any one help me on how to add a new kernel in grub |
| 08:31.03 | mo1991 | liable I assume you mean with the modprobe command ? |
| 08:31.04 | nkuttler | billybob: pci? pcmcia? usb? |
| 08:31.20 | billybob | nkuttler: pcmcia |
| 08:31.23 | kimo | Why Linux in military? (Money saving, code-Audit, Realtime-OS) |
| 08:31.35 | liable | mo1991: modprobe or modules file, sec, will see if i cant find something to explain. |
| 08:31.42 | shell909090 | codenamewilley: try vi /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 08:32.04 | nkuttler | billybob: did you reboot in between? usually plugging it in should be all that is needed |
| 08:32.10 | tarzeau | what do i do if i want in a script uname -r returns one string without -r. i tried alias uname=echo some stuff |
| 08:32.16 | mo1991 | liable at the moment the modprobe i82365 commnad crashes my computer due to the irq conflict |
| 08:32.22 | tarzeau | i don't want to change the uname -r into just unames |
| 08:32.29 | billybob | nkuttler: hmmm lemme check something... |
| 08:32.34 | tarzeau | kimo: linux isn't a realtime os |
| 08:32.39 | nkuttler | billybob: billybob run cardctl info|ident to see if it is present. check /var/log/messages for relevant output |
| 08:32.42 | tarzeau | kimo: it's not an os at all, it's just a kernel |
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| 08:33.07 | billybob | nkuttler: i think my ip addy dissapeared |
| 08:33.19 | nkuttler | tarzeau: var=$(command) ? |
| 08:34.01 | codenamewilley | shell909090:and what do i do in it coz i alread checked it.in kernel field i can add the bzIImage for new kernel but wat about the initrd field?? |
| 08:34.07 | codenamewilley | what do i add there? |
| 08:34.10 | nkuttler | billybob: do you know man ifconfig, man interfaces? |
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| 08:34.47 | tarzeau | nkuttler: my hero. thanks alot |
| 08:34.48 | LaidBack_01 | hey, I want to add a path to my system that's not login dependant - eg I want python to know about cheetah - and it has to be all the time - not just when I log in. Where in my system do I set that? |
| 08:34.57 | shell909090 | codenamewilley: didn't make a initrd? |
| 08:34.58 | billybob | nkuttler: i knew ifconfig |
| 08:35.11 | shell909090 | it's made like this |
| 08:35.22 | shell909090 | codenamewilley: mkinitrd -o outfile |
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| 08:35.38 | liable | mo1991: why not modprobe foo irq=5?? |
| 08:35.41 | nkuttler | tarzeau: :-) |
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| 08:35.51 | nkuttler | billybob: you'll need to ifconfig or ifup the card |
| 08:35.58 | shell909090 | it's needed if u use something like scsi but load in module |
| 08:36.20 | mo1991 | liable, let me try |
| 08:36.22 | shell909090 | codenamewilley: a kernel should include such files |
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| 08:36.50 | billybob | nkuttler: alright, thanks. is there anyway i can just get back to that install screen that let me put in the ip and whatnot? |
| 08:36.54 | shell909090 | config, System.map bzImage initrd.img(if has) |
| 08:36.56 | tarzeau | FUCK my script fails because linux kernel version before 2.6 had only 3 numbers, and now sometimes has 4 numbers |
| 08:36.59 | tarzeau | I HATE LINUX |
| 08:37.39 | likeafox | Is there a way I can run the core system off a cd, without a harddrive? |
| 08:37.49 | liable | tarzeau: so stop using it? |
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| 08:38.06 | nkuttler | billybob: that information should have been stored. man interfaces. use ifdown interface and ifup interface to get it up |
| 08:38.14 | shell909090 | likeafox: livecd? |
| 08:38.52 | likeafox | shell909090, I was hoping so. I'm just wondering if it needs a partition to put temporary stuff on. |
| 08:38.55 | billybob | nkuttler: alright i'll do that. thanks |
| 08:39.08 | LaidBack_01 | tarzeau: http://www.menuetos.net/ |
| 08:39.23 | tarzeau | LaidBack_01: arf. i rather use OPENSTEP |
| 08:39.42 | LaidBack_01 | well... it was just a thought. |
| 08:39.54 | shell909090 | likeafox: maybe u can look at devel-linux in sourceforge |
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| 08:39.59 | tarzeau | how can i split uname -r into VERSION, PATCHLEVEL, SUBLEVEL and EXTRAVERSION? |
| 08:40.00 | kevix | likeafox: some livecd's may ask to create a swp file, some not. |
| 08:40.17 | shell909090 | it's said that thing is for emb drivers like route |
| 08:40.23 | tarzeau | i just want the EXTRAVERSION part |
| 08:40.24 | darkstego | how do I find out what deb package a file on my system belongs to? |
| 08:40.32 | tarzeau | darkstego: dpkg -S /the/file |
| 08:40.42 | darkstego | tarzeau: thanks |
| 08:40.42 | likeafox | Well I'll try my luck with livecd then, thanks. |
| 08:40.46 | nkuttler | tarzeau: #bash |
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| 08:42.35 | mo1991 | liable - in slackware - it is recommended to remove the rc.pcmcia default file so that it gets replaced with the proper one form the pcmcia-cs package which detects IRQ 11 properly |
| 08:42.53 | mo1991 | what steps do I need to do to achieve this result in sarge? |
| 08:43.19 | liable | mo1991: no idea, man pcmcia-cs or /usr/share/doc |
| 08:44.03 | kevix | mo1991: have you tried to install the pcmcia-cs package? |
| 08:44.31 | mo1991 | ya, it's installed |
| 08:44.42 | mo1991 | plus the modules for the 2.4.20 custom kernel I use |
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| 08:44.59 | kevix | mo1991: have you checked linux-laptop.net ? |
| 08:45.50 | mo1991 | ya, other people have the same problem - not a lot of help - some bios issue with HP laptops - did have this working at one time tho - reinstalled and can't get it working |
| 08:46.05 | jengelh | tarzeau : hate yourself. if you had given it more thought, it would not have broken. |
| 08:46.15 | mo1991 | need it to use irq 11 rather than 5 for the i82365 modules |
| 08:46.41 | kevix | mo1991: then would it be set in /etc/module.conf ? |
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| 08:47.04 | jengelh | mo1991 : laptop hm? if it was a desktop box, one could do it by replugging in cards |
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| 08:47.42 | heny | where does wine save the installed programs? |
| 08:47.53 | heny | and/or how do i open the wine gui? |
| 08:48.06 | kevix | heny: .wine ? |
| 08:48.14 | liable | heny: ~/.wine |
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| 08:49.12 | PSG|Tartiflette | when i do a ldapadd i have this error " ldap_bind invalid credential " |
| 08:49.15 | mo1991 | liable modprobe i82365 irq=11 still give the have irq 5 want irq 11 command - how do I force irq 11 for this module |
| 08:49.28 | PSG|Tartiflette | some one know why ? |
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| 08:49.43 | mo1991 | says irq=11 no such parameter in this module |
| 08:49.44 | jbrouhard | Anyone here use webmin? |
| 08:49.48 | jbrouhard | I just installed it |
| 08:49.51 | jbrouhard | and it seems to deny me access |
| 08:49.52 | deadcat | jbrouhard: no |
| 08:49.55 | deadcat | !webmin |
| 08:49.55 | dpkg | from memory, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 08:49.58 | sep | jbrouhard, you have our sympathy |
| 08:50.04 | jbrouhard | *snort* |
| 08:50.11 | jbrouhard | *is trying to find the correct file to edit it |
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| 08:50.42 | jbrouhard | aha. |
| 08:50.44 | kevix | jbrouhard: you went to port 10000 and entered the root password? |
| 08:50.44 | jbrouhard | got it :) |
| 08:50.44 | heny | whats wrong with this command: |
| 08:50.52 | heny | wine usr/bin/home/k99hkupitz/.wine/drive_c/Programme/mIRC/mirc.exe |
| 08:50.53 | jbrouhard | it wouldn't even let me go there, kevix |
| 08:50.59 | jbrouhard | it was set to allow only 127.0.0.1 |
| 08:51.07 | tarzeau | heny: what does the shell tell you? |
| 08:51.15 | heny | wine: cannot find 'usr/bin/home/k99hkupitz/.wine/drive_c/Programme/mIRC/mirc.exe' |
| 08:51.17 | tarzeau | heny: it looks like a relative path |
| 08:51.22 | tarzeau | heny: add / at the beginning |
| 08:51.34 | heny | nope ^^ |
| 08:52.00 | heny | can i copy a path out of the filebrowser? |
| 08:52.05 | heny | @gnome |
| 08:52.07 | ravenbird | from memory, gnome is a desktop environment - see http://www.gnome.org. a little dwarf, or a race in d&d |
| 08:52.07 | tarzeau | heny: which filebrowser? |
| 08:52.17 | tarzeau | heny: just do wine /usr/bin/home/k99hkupitz/.wine/drive_c/Programme/mIRC/mirc.exe |
| 08:52.21 | tarzeau | heny: but really mirc is bad! |
| 08:52.27 | heny | mirc ftw :) |
| 08:52.33 | tarzeau | heny: and german windows is bad too |
| 08:52.41 | heny | tarzeau your opinion ;D |
| 08:52.44 | jengelh | why german? |
| 08:52.49 | heny | i use mirc on windows |
| 08:52.53 | heny | for scripting etc |
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| 08:53.04 | tarzeau | heny: i prefer irssi there as well |
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| 08:53.24 | heny | got it: |
| 08:53.25 | heny | wine /home/k99hkupitz/.wine/drive_c/Programme/mIRC/mirc.exe |
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| 09:00.01 | PSG|Tartiflette | when i do a ldpadd -k i have this error "not compiled with kerberos support" |
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| 09:02.56 | mahatma | hello |
| 09:03.03 | evilspy | Hello! I updated few computers with debian-testing and now resizing shell doesn't work anymore |
| 09:04.01 | evilspy | (screen+irssi -> resizing -> just displayes everything wrong) |
| 09:04.24 | evilspy | Is this something new or is there fix for this already? |
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| 09:04.58 | mahatma | isn't ghostscript supposed to be available in debian-3.1?; I'm trying to set up my BJC-8200 printer - it gets added fine in th ecups interface, but the error log prints that it's unable convert the file to a printable format and then says HINT: Do you have ESP Ghostscript installed?. Any pointers to what I can try? |
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| 09:05.42 | jm_ | gs-esp - The Ghostscript PostScript interpreter - ESP version |
| 09:05.43 | jm_ | gs-gpl - The GPL Ghostscript PostScript interpreter |
| 09:06.08 | jm_ | it's also recommended by cupsys package |
| 09:07.51 | mahatma | jm_: ahh, thanks |
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| 09:09.22 | mfluch | Hi! Is here anyone who might help me with a very strange problem with the keyboard setup under X.org (running the latest unstable)... |
| 09:10.23 | mfluch | I have the problem that the right ALT key does not work as it should: it has *exactly* the same effect as the left one. |
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| 09:11.18 | mfluch | Everything else works fine. But this single key issue drives me crazy. |
| 09:11.47 | mfluch | I've tried to reconfigure X, tried to completely reinstall X and its related packages. |
| 09:12.14 | mfluch | Still, the right ALT key does not work the way it should. (It works fine on the console). |
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| 09:12.46 | lehel | hello |
| 09:12.49 | mfluch | The problem is independent of how I start X: I've tried KDM, XDM, startx... always the same. |
| 09:13.11 | mfluch | It is independent of what windowmanager I use. |
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| 09:13.16 | nkuttler | mfluch: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 09:14.04 | lehel | nkuttler: which is the most suitable (fast) for a PIII 1Ghz graphical interface? |
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| 09:15.30 | nkuttler | lehel: 1ghz with enough ram can run anything. i like fluxbox |
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| 09:15.53 | billybob | how do i get to that huge list of packages where i can select things to dl? |
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| 09:16.36 | nkuttler | billybob: sounds like aptitude |
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| 09:17.17 | lehel | nkuttler: i'll try fluxbox ;) |
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| 09:17.35 | liable | !reference |
| 09:17.36 | dpkg | well, reference is The Debian Reference. Will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install it too, the packagename is "debian-reference", 'apt-get install debian-reference'. |
| 09:17.39 | liable | billybob: ^^ |
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| 09:17.47 | lawton | hello |
| 09:17.53 | liable | hola |
| 09:18.06 | lawton | i'm trying to build a filserver |
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| 09:18.08 | mfluch | I did no find anything usefull new for my problem under /msg dpkg keymap |
| 09:18.11 | billybob | thanks |
| 09:18.19 | billybob | that was it |
| 09:18.21 | lawton | i'm wondering if SAMBA is the best solution |
| 09:18.22 | mxktmdude | hi guys i just got debian installed, and now im trying to get my strange network card to work. i know i should run lspci, but what to do with that information im not having luck with |
| 09:18.26 | entuall | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:18.36 | lawton | for OS X + Windows + Linux accesibility |
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| 09:18.55 | MIRA | #CHINESE |
| 09:19.03 | lawton | or if there is another solution that will handle OS X metadata better |
| 09:19.20 | liable | MIRA: i think you may have caps lock on.. |
| 09:19.42 | mfluch | I got the problem one, two moths ago, but then my computer was on repair and I thought it might have been a problem with "unstable" and hoped that it would have been resolved by the time my computer returned from repair. |
| 09:19.43 | liable | mxktmdude: google it. |
| 09:19.47 | kreg | how come there isn't a bind-chroot pakage ready to go? |
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| 09:20.03 | mfluch | But still the problem with the right ALT key is here after upgrade |
| 09:20.26 | mxktmdude | i have been try, ive been searching thru pcidatabase.com and such but having no luck |
| 09:21.14 | lehel | nkuttler: i'm just downloading fluxbox..tar.gz |
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| 09:21.23 | mfluch | After more than 7 years running and maintaining Debian on my machine I am really puzzled... |
| 09:21.35 | nkuttler | lehel: apt-get install fluxbox as root |
| 09:21.40 | mfluch | I could not find anything in the web about my problem... :-/ |
| 09:21.53 | billybob | how do i change my screen size in gnome? |
| 09:22.19 | nkuttler | mfluch: yes, broken keymaps suck. use xev to see what's going on and use xmodmap to fix it. |
| 09:22.24 | dbe | billybob, Desktop => Preferences => Screen... |
| 09:22.51 | lehel | nkuttler: what ver is in the debian packages? |
| 09:22.55 | billybob | i fucking suck |
| 09:22.58 | billybob | lol |
| 09:23.05 | lehel | i just downloaded the 0.9.15 |
| 09:23.06 | sep | i have installed moin on my debian sarge. but have utterly failed in getting the twikidraw plugin to work. google have been slightly helpfull but mostly confusing. i dl twikidraw.jar from http://debian.jones.dk/auryn/pool-all/official/moin/twikidraw/ and put it in /usr/share/moin/htdocs/applets/TwikiDrawPlugin but the applet allways fail to load, is there something else i must do. or do anyone know of a doc/install guide for twikidrawplugin ? |
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| 09:23.19 | nkuttler | lehel: apt-cache policy package |
| 09:23.21 | dbe | billybob, it's easy to miss |
| 09:23.32 | billybob | lol |
| 09:23.37 | ChrisW | hi all, just had a box become unresponsive and require a reboot... how can I figure out what happened? |
| 09:23.45 | dbe | billybob, been there, done that |
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| 09:24.02 | lehel | nkuttler : it is that 0.9.11..what ver do you use? |
| 09:24.08 | twosouls82 | hi all |
| 09:24.19 | lehel | nkuttler: i think i'll try to compile |
| 09:24.29 | billybob | alright thanks. food time. later |
| 09:24.50 | twosouls82 | in my apt list I see stable, testing and experimental... what does this mean? |
| 09:24.54 | mfluch | nkuttler: For the right ALT key I get "...keycode 113 (keysym 0xffea, Alt_R)...", for the left ALT I get "...keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L)..." |
| 09:25.20 | mfluch | (if that is the relevant info in xev). |
| 09:25.22 | liable | twosouls82: is the testing/unstable in te cdrom line? |
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| 09:25.47 | mfluch | but still all applications react the same regardless what ALT key I press. |
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| 09:25.59 | twosouls82 | liable: what exactly do you mean by 'the cdrom line'? |
| 09:26.07 | ChrisW | I've looked in /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog but nothing there |
| 09:26.19 | ChrisW | from the apache logs on the box, I can tell pretty accurately when ti died |
| 09:26.28 | ChrisW | but would dearly like to find out why... |
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| 09:27.00 | outlaw84 | whats the easiest way to schedule a command for later execution? |
| 09:27.11 | ChrisW | outlaw84: cron |
| 09:27.23 | sep | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.28 | nkuttler | mfluch: google xmodmap alt_gr |
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| 09:27.45 | ChrisW | sep: what was your question? |
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| 09:28.09 | lehel | nkuttler: xdm with fluxbox is ok? |
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| 09:28.26 | outlaw84 | ChrisW: I only want it to execute once... isn't creating a cron-job too mesy? |
| 09:28.29 | PSG|Tartiflette | when i do a "ldapsearch" it's say " ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s : internal ( implementation specific) error 80 additional info : SASL (-13): user not found : no secret in database |
| 09:28.30 | sep | i have installed moin on my debian sarge. but have utterly failed in getting the twikidraw plugin to work. google have been slightly helpfull but mostly confusing. i dl twikidraw.jar from http://debian.jones.dk/auryn/pool-all/official/moin/twikidraw/ and put it in /usr/share/moin/htdocs/applets/TwikiDrawPlugin but the applet allways fail to load, is there something else i must do. or do anyone know of a doc/install guide for twikidrawplugin ? |
| 09:28.35 | PSG|Tartiflette | anyone have an idea ? |
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| 09:28.40 | lehel | nkuttler: i dont rember which i have at home xdm/gdm/kdm |
| 09:28.42 | PSG|Tartiflette | i use kerberos and sasl |
| 09:28.42 | ChrisW | outlaw84: *shrugs* you asked for the easiest way |
| 09:28.48 | sep | this is ofcouse on moin from sarge |
| 09:28.55 | efaistos | :QUIT |
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| 09:29.11 | ChrisW | sep: does this look like #moin to you? |
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| 09:29.18 | adhoc | sep: so twikidraw.jar is a java app right? |
| 09:29.19 | nkuttler | sep: are twiki plugin expected to work in moin? |
| 09:29.20 | lehel | :P |
| 09:29.33 | sep | ChrisW, moin only tell you to update to a more recent version anyway :P |
| 09:29.39 | nkuttler | lehel: doesn't matter |
| 09:29.41 | outlaw84 | ChrisW: :) I was looking for something like 'startlater -t <time> <command>' :) |
| 09:29.48 | ChrisW | well, #debian is likely to just tell you that this isn't a debian problem |
| 09:29.51 | adhoc | outlaw84: how about 'at' |
| 09:30.06 | ChrisW | outlaw84: *shrugs* feel free to write it ;-) |
| 09:30.13 | sep | that version there is i belive |
| 09:30.22 | ChrisW | adhoc: doesn't that cause it to happen repeatedly? |
| 09:30.26 | sep | nkuttler, yes |
| 09:30.33 | adhoc | ChrisW: no |
| 09:30.39 | adhoc | ChrisW: that would be cron |
| 09:30.41 | outlaw84 | ChrisW: I could :) but I was thinking that a GNU/Linux system already has a tool for that |
| 09:30.47 | priscila | sep: why do you dont install the newest version of moin? |
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| 09:31.01 | sep | priscila, becouse im afraid of what it might to to my wikifarm |
| 09:31.03 | outlaw84 | adhoc: I'll try thata |
| 09:32.21 | priscila | sep: you can use a sandbox to do the test |
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| 09:33.14 | grusy | hello, anyone knows how to install sarge on a fasttrack tx4000 raid controller? |
| 09:34.48 | sep | priscila, if i woudl want to upgrade it i would ofcouse copy all the wikis from my live server to a test box and upgrade and test there. but i dont think it would make much of a difference. Jonas Smedegaard provides a binary jar file here http://debian.jones.dk/auryn/pool-all/official/moin/twikidraw/ made for moin in debian. i just can't get it to load in the browsers |
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| 09:35.57 | adhoc | sep: you looked at the server? does it have anything in its log files as to why its not working? |
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| 09:36.59 | sep | adhoc, no it actualy prints GET 200 /KlWiki/KapasitetsLaget/Elektronikk/Router/CH/ifa/draw/twiki/TWikiDraw.class witch i belive means that the browser got what it asked for |
| 09:37.12 | sep | adhoc, and ofcouse i have looked at the logs :) |
| 09:37.17 | adhoc | so its javascript? |
| 09:37.24 | sep | binary java applet |
| 09:37.30 | adhoc | and hte client executes it? |
| 09:37.37 | adhoc | and the client has some java installed? |
| 09:37.49 | sep | and it works on the same browser on the moinmoin wiki sandbox |
| 09:37.53 | adhoc | and the server knows to set the right stream type? |
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| 09:38.22 | sep | adhoc, humm that i dont know how do i check that |
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| 09:38.27 | sep | a mimetype ? |
| 09:38.45 | adhoc | yeah |
| 09:38.55 | adhoc | if it works in the sand box |
| 09:39.00 | sep | see this is why i'd like a doc for this thing |
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| 09:39.03 | adhoc | then thats anoter issue =/ |
| 09:39.09 | sep | adhoc, of another server yes |
| 09:39.12 | sep | not on mine |
| 09:39.26 | sep | i just testet it to see if my clients was ok |
| 09:39.26 | mahatma | is there a gui for the commands pon, plog and poff? (for my mother;)) |
| 09:39.55 | streuner | mahatma: she should be able to run pon in a shell? |
| 09:39.58 | liable | mahatma: kde and gnome have guis for dialup |
| 09:40.06 | adhoc | sep, can you compare the server config files? |
| 09:40.09 | streuner | kppp |
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| 09:40.17 | streuner | !info kppp |
| 09:40.22 | dpkg | kppp: (modem dialer and ppp frontend for KDE), section net, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 677 kB, Installed size: 3256 kB |
| 09:40.28 | mahatma | she's using gnome, btw |
| 09:40.41 | mahatma | , but I guess kppp will do, thanks, I'll check it out |
| 09:40.41 | adhoc | sep: if you just download the .class file, what does the client browser do? |
| 09:40.43 | PSG|Tartiflette | When i do ldapadd , i have this error " invalid credentials (49)" someone can help me ? |
| 09:41.09 | prog | PSG|Tartiflette, you should authenticate yourself first |
| 09:41.23 | sep | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:41.25 | prog | PSG|Tartiflette, for example -x ( as simple auth method ) |
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| 09:42.27 | streuner | mahatma: sudo would be nice too, just give her right to run pon via sudo |
| 09:42.45 | PSG|Tartiflette | yes, but when i do -x , i have an other error "ldap_bind: Server unwilling to perform (53), additional info:unauthentificated bind (DN with no password) disallowed" |
| 09:42.46 | streuner | mahatma: so 'pon' is simply enough |
| 09:43.08 | adhoc | sep, yes ... |
| 09:43.21 | mahatma | heh, that kppp app failed to launch from the menu because of permission problems;) |
| 09:43.21 | jm_ | streuner: you don't need to use sudo for pon |
| 09:43.32 | streuner | ok |
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| 09:44.03 | streuner | mahatma: dialout group |
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| 09:44.46 | mahatma | streuner: ahh, mk |
| 09:44.48 | streuner | mahatma: user need to be in dialout group |
| 09:44.53 | beanz | is anyone using "mbstring.func_overload = 7" on apache2 sarge? |
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| 09:45.44 | sep | adhoc, it's made on the fly with moin when i try to edit a drawing, i have not been able to run it directly in the drowser outside of the moin page |
| 09:46.05 | mahatma | she is in the dialout group, btw |
| 09:46.35 | beanz | ack this is woody |
| 09:46.36 | streuner | !info gnome-ppp |
| 09:46.39 | dpkg | gnome-ppp: (modem internet connection tool for GNOME), section net, is optional. Version: 0.3.21-2 (sid), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 604 kB |
| 09:46.53 | streuner | just try that |
| 09:47.03 | mahatma | yeah, checked out gnome-ppp;), thanks |
| 09:47.25 | mahatma | she's using pppoe, though |
| 09:47.50 | jm_ | pppoe? make it start automatically |
| 09:48.11 | streuner | via gkrellm |
| 09:48.11 | mahatma | yeah, I've done that, but she claimed today that it fell out |
| 09:48.28 | streuner | mahatma: install gkrellm |
| 09:48.38 | mahatma | streuner: aiight, nice;) |
| 09:48.41 | streuner | mahatma: you could just setup it to connect |
| 09:48.57 | jm_ | that's easy to verify - pppd will exit when it gives up |
| 09:49.00 | streuner | you find some themes at muhri.net/gkrellm |
| 09:49.03 | sep | a jar dont need to be executeable on the server right www-data only need to read it to send it to the browser |
| 09:49.20 | mahatma | hmm, yeah, so she must have been wrong then.. |
| 09:49.27 | PSG|Tartiflette | when i do ldapadd -x , i have an error "ldap_bind: Server unwilling to perform (53), additional info:unauthentificated bind (DN with no password) disallowed" |
| 09:49.37 | mahatma | will pppoed just keep trying and trying? |
| 09:49.40 | streuner | mahatma: if you set it up right, she just need to press a certain button to connect and to disconnect |
| 09:50.00 | jm_ | mahatma: no, I have found out it exits after a while, despite using persist option |
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| 09:50.30 | mahatma | streuner: I've just put the pon command in an init script |
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| 09:50.56 | GarethAdams|Work | hi |
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| 09:50.59 | jm_ | you don't need to do that, you can configure it via interfaces file |
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| 09:52.40 | streuner | a wonderful thingie would be, using Ă' |
| 09:52.46 | AssAssIn | I have proble with GRUB, on screen is Loading GRUB, please wait.... and nathing more, what to do? |
| 09:52.47 | GarethAdams|Work | how could I recursively cat files in nested folders, with each file preceded by its filename? |
| 09:53.00 | AssAssIn | it seams like problem with HDD |
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| 09:53.17 | streuner | a wonderful thingie is 'OSD' |
| 09:53.37 | streuner | on certain events it shows you a message on the screen... |
| 09:53.47 | streuner | connected or disconnected |
| 09:54.21 | AssAssIn | don't u know where's problem and waht to do? |
| 09:55.10 | streuner | (for example) |
| 09:55.42 | jm_ | Loading GRUB? haven't seen such a message |
| 09:56.15 | AssAssIn | jm_ sry: GRUB is loading |
| 09:56.22 | streuner | !start a bootloader war |
| 09:56.22 | dpkg | OS/2 Boot Manager is all you need |
| 09:56.34 | jm_ | AssAssIn: does it say GRUB? Does it say Loading stageX? |
| 09:56.56 | AssAssIn | jm_ stage1.5 |
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| 09:57.51 | MishMash | Guys, I want to replace the current 2.6 installation kernel from the netinstall cd with my own kernel |
| 09:57.53 | MishMash | how do i do that? |
| 09:58.07 | streuner | MishMash: /msg dpkg kp |
| 09:58.29 | streuner | there is a backport for 2.6.15 |
| 09:58.40 | streuner | at backports.org, btw. |
| 09:59.01 | jm_ | AssAssIn: tried using --force-lba option? alternatively one could try installing it by hand and using the d flag |
| 09:59.31 | AssAssIn | jm_ and waht about change of laoder? |
| 09:59.37 | AssAssIn | re: loader |
| 09:59.38 | liable | or --no-floppy? |
| 09:59.40 | mahatma | gpppon seems perfect, but where does it end on the menu? |
| 09:59.41 | jm_ | AssAssIn: well you could of course try lilo |
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| 09:59.57 | liable | AssAssIn: laptop? |
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| 10:00.16 | MishMash | streuner: what's a backport :P |
| 10:00.21 | AssAssIn | liable no server with Intel main board and 2 hdds |
| 10:00.25 | streuner | !backport |
| 10:00.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
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| 10:01.10 | evilspy | is this know problem with debian/testing: http://evilspy.1g.fi/bug/resize-bug.html |
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| 10:02.00 | mfluch | Huh...still no luck with my ALT_R key.... :-( |
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| 10:02.09 | AssAssIn | so thx I try to install lilo |
| 10:02.11 | AssAssIn | bye |
| 10:02.27 | mfluch | what packages are responsible for the keyboard layout under X |
| 10:02.36 | mfluch | what could I try to re-install? |
| 10:02.47 | streuner | !keymap |
| 10:02.47 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 10:03.34 | mfluch | I've tried already this information ... no luck... |
| 10:03.37 | mfluch | :-( |
| 10:03.51 | streuner | usually alter 'PC104' to 'PC105 |
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| 10:03.58 | mfluch | I use already PC105 |
| 10:04.01 | streuner | in your X config file |
| 10:04.06 | streuner | laptop? |
| 10:04.13 | mfluch | IBM t30. |
| 10:04.18 | mfluch | had worked fine for long time... |
| 10:04.35 | streuner | checkout /msg dpkg laptop then |
| 10:04.42 | mfluch | Section "InputDevice" |
| 10:04.42 | mfluch | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.42 | mfluch | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.42 | mfluch | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.42 | mfluch | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.42 | mfluch | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:04.46 | streuner | hm |
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| 10:04.57 | kameron | just booting the install cd, on a p2 box with little ram, i don't recal how much.. it says "Kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. Try passing init= option to the kernel." what should i try here? |
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| 10:05.06 | streuner | food.. |
| 10:05.18 | flosch | hi |
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| 10:05.32 | mahatma | I installed gpppon, but it's not getting installed in the menu, it seems; any way to find this info somewhere? |
| 10:05.46 | mfluch | I have "Option "XkbModel" "pc105"" in my xorg.conf |
| 10:05.55 | mahatma | ahh, it's an applet |
| 10:06.17 | mfluch | XkbRules: xorg, XkbLayout de. |
| 10:06.24 | jm_ | mahatma: it adds itself to the menu system, but perhaps you need to logout for changes to be in effect |
| 10:06.48 | mahatma | jm_: under what menu entry? |
| 10:07.02 | jm_ | mahatma: I have no idea, check for yourself -- /usr/lib/menu/gpppon |
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| 10:08.27 | veloce | sorry I had a problem, I'm plutonas. If you answered, can you write it again, i couldn't see it |
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| 10:09.27 | mahatma | ;), I'll log out |
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| 10:11.14 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:11.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 10:12.59 | whb | Is there other GUI-frontend for APT than Synaptic? |
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| 10:14.15 | mfluch | Hmm .... looks like I have to reinstall my laptop just because the blody ALT_R key is not working... :-/ |
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| 10:15.35 | zamolxes_ | looks like it, eh |
| 10:17.27 | mfluch | sofar I managed to recover from worse problems (X gone, crypsetup broken and just root file system remained readable, partition table messed up) without reinstalling the system ... and now this blody tiny ALT_R key makes me reinstall the system... |
| 10:17.29 | mfluch | :-/ |
| 10:17.46 | veloce | can somebody help me with kppp |
| 10:17.57 | tarzeau | veloce: help what? |
| 10:18.09 | evilspy | how do I revert all installed packages to versions prior to week 13? |
| 10:18.16 | tarzeau | evilspy: forget it |
| 10:18.44 | evilspy | I want find package that is causing this resizing problem |
| 10:19.11 | evilspy | using irssi in 80x24 terminal is such pain :.< |
| 10:19.13 | veloce | tarzeau, I am from windows now, I can't connect to internet via sarge |
| 10:19.19 | tarzeau | evilspy: why? |
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| 10:19.47 | tarzeau | veloce: so? |
| 10:19.59 | tarzeau | evilspy: i've got 176x25 |
| 10:20.42 | veloce | it seemingly connects, but I cant use the net at all, and after 2 minutes it disconects and says that |
| 10:21.02 | veloce | it has made 4 echo requests without respond |
| 10:21.17 | evilspy | tarzeau: well I would have too if resizing terminal would work.. after week 13 some updated in debian/testing broke resizing terminals |
| 10:21.54 | tarzeau | evilspy: you use screen? |
| 10:22.04 | tarzeau | evilspy: which terminal is that? |
| 10:22.04 | evilspy | yes |
| 10:22.09 | evilspy | http://evilspy.1g.fi/bug/resize-bug.html |
| 10:22.13 | tarzeau | evilspy: know ctrl-a F? |
| 10:22.21 | veloce | What can I do? It's driving me crazy |
| 10:22.41 | evilspy | tarzeau: this happens with other programs than screen too |
| 10:23.06 | tarzeau | evilspy: pressed ctrl-a F, yet? |
| 10:23.13 | evilspy | yep.. didn't fix |
| 10:23.21 | evilspy | want me to take screencaptures? |
| 10:23.30 | tarzeau | evilspy: then ctrl-l ? |
| 10:23.37 | tarzeau | evilspy: it works perfect here |
| 10:23.44 | tarzeau | evilspy: nope, i see it |
| 10:24.31 | evilspy | it has happen on two computers with debian/testing now.. I'm too afraid to update remaining ones until I know which package is causing this |
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| 10:25.19 | tarzeau | evilspy: testing? sid? |
| 10:25.24 | jm_ | does terminal report new size when you resize it? |
| 10:25.26 | evilspy | yes |
| 10:25.51 | sep | for the record. i got the twikidrawplugin to work, i think the main thing is make sure you empty your browser cache between each attempth, it's just a matter of getting the correct twikidraw.jar binary |
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| 10:26.23 | evilspy | report new size to server? yes.. other servers that haven't been updated resizing work fine |
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| 10:26.55 | jm_ | uhm no, stty -a should show new values for columns and line |
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| 10:27.46 | andyetitmoves | hi! can anyone tell me what use are the entries in /dev/.static/dev, except for console and null, needed for bootstrapping? (I moved from a non-udev setup to a udev setup, and the static entries have been left behind) |
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| 10:30.40 | evilspy | http://pastebin.com/639603 |
| 10:31.22 | cunzhang | is there anyone using debian sidďź |
| 10:31.22 | jm_ | it properly changed number of columns, but line is fucked up all the time |
| 10:31.32 | weissi | cunzhang, yep :-) |
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| 10:31.58 | cunzhang | weissiďźhave you used amarok in KDE? |
| 10:32.02 | tarzeau | cunzhang: yes |
| 10:32.13 | weissi | cunzhang, no, sorry |
| 10:32.15 | tarzeau | cunzhang: but not gnome/kde |
| 10:32.15 | evilspy | jm_: actually rows and columns should be about half in last stty |
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| 10:32.54 | jm_ | evilspy: does it work if you set lines properly by hand? |
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| 10:33.10 | evilspy | how do I change theim by hand? |
| 10:33.15 | jm_ | stty --help |
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| 10:33.39 | cunzhang | weissi,tarzeau,my amarok can't quit normally.I think it's a bug,but can't be sure |
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| 10:34.38 | incorrect | i am using ntop on a P120 but it keeps crashing, are there any lighter weight tools similar? |
| 10:34.49 | tarzeau | cunzhang: i don't use gnome or kde |
| 10:34.54 | cunzhang | who use amarok in KDE of debian sidďź |
| 10:34.55 | tarzeau | !BTS |
| 10:34.55 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 10:34.58 | jm_ | incorrect: possibly, depending on which features you need |
| 10:34.59 | tarzeau | cunzhang: #debian-kde |
| 10:35.10 | cunzhang | tarzeau,thank you |
| 10:35.14 | prudhvi | has gnome-2.14 been to debian etch ? |
| 10:35.19 | tarzeau | i use cynthiune.app and opencubicplayer |
| 10:35.25 | tarzeau | prudhvi: packages.debian.org |
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| 10:35.50 | incorrect | im just after some trafic usage |
| 10:36.01 | incorrect | im not that interested in content inspection |
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| 10:37.02 | evilspy | jm_: setting cols/rows by hand works |
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| 10:37.20 | jm_ | evilspy: and it resizes properly after that? |
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| 10:38.09 | darkness2 | Anyone here really familiar with the program denyhosts? |
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| 10:38.17 | jm_ | you're still at it? |
| 10:38.37 | darkness2 | Well i reinstalled it again yesterday. |
| 10:38.56 | darkness2 | And sure i've configured all the files as per tut. |
| 10:39.19 | tarzeau | graveman seems to be nice |
| 10:39.44 | darkness2 | But i can't understand where the errors are from the error logs. |
| 10:40.04 | Freduardo | hello |
| 10:40.18 | Freduardo | I play enemy territory in windowed mode |
| 10:40.24 | Freduardo | one problem though |
| 10:40.40 | Freduardo | my cursus is stuck within that window |
| 10:41.05 | Freduardo | so I can't reacht eg. amarok to play another song... |
| 10:41.19 | Freduardo | I've tried alt-tab, and esc-alt-tab |
| 10:41.25 | Freduardo | doesn't work |
| 10:41.31 | Freduardo | any ideas? |
| 10:42.04 | evilspy | jm_: yes.. but ofcourse I would manually set stty after every resize |
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| 10:44.39 | biw | anyone had firefox segfaulting? |
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| 10:45.34 | jm_ | evilspy: then it's not working |
| 10:45.50 | evilspy | ok |
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| 10:46.11 | jm_ | biw: yes |
| 10:47.08 | biw | it a recent bug? |
| 10:47.13 | biw | known fix? |
| 10:47.20 | biw | just started occuring this morning |
| 10:47.27 | biw | tried clearing my profile/plugins etc but still no joy |
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| 10:47.43 | jm_ | no, I have alwayas had crashes with it, usually after running it for weeks |
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| 10:48.15 | yaboo | stupid question how do I force the inbuilt ethernet on the laptop to be eth0 |
| 10:48.30 | petemc | yaboo: ifrename |
| 10:49.36 | yaboo | petemc, sorry don't understand |
| 10:49.59 | fireba11 | i'm trying to set up a ssh connection without password using certificates .. but i seem to be missing something .. any way to get debugging output when trying this ? |
| 10:50.19 | petemc | yaboo: apt-cache show ifrename |
| 10:50.58 | yaboo | petemec got the ifrename package guess need to config the config files? |
| 10:51.05 | petemc | urgh |
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| 10:52.04 | evilspy | hm.. I'll try updating one computer one by one to see which package might be causing this |
| 10:53.36 | CAiRO | hi, i'm using the following line in my sources list "deb http://www.proesdorf.de/debian/ stable main contrib" to get a fresh clamav, but i don't want other stable packages to be downloaded from this source, how do i do the pinning to achieve that? |
| 10:54.27 | CAiRO | how can i difference between debian official apt repositories and this source? |
| 10:54.34 | CAiRO | in my preferences file? |
| 10:55.01 | petemc | CAiRO: theres debian volatile for updated clamav stuffs |
| 10:55.16 | jm_ | FireBlade: you mean keys? |
| 10:55.20 | jm_ | fireba11 ^^^^ |
| 10:56.00 | fireba11 | jm_ yes ... i copied rsk key over as i did bevore on another box .. but it doesn#t eem to use authorized_keys file at all .. how can i igure out whats wrong ? |
| 10:56.27 | jm_ | fireba11: is it enabled on the server? |
| 10:56.41 | CAiRO | petemc: ok, thanks |
| 10:56.57 | biw | odd, downgrade of firefox from 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-4 back to 1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1 fixed it |
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| 10:57.14 | fireba11 | jm_ box1 was syncing bevore with box2 .. now i want to replace box2 with box3 .. i checked configs from 2 and 3 and made sure they are the same but it's still not working |
| 10:57.47 | jm_ | fireba11: check permissions on files |
| 10:58.07 | fireba11 | jm_ they are the same too ... ^^ |
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| 10:58.48 | jenipapo | hi all |
| 10:59.17 | jm_ | fireba11: then you'll have to debug sshd and make sure ssh is sending the right key |
| 10:59.46 | fireba11 | jm_ maybe i missed something ... since server was already set up all i have to do on the new client is to add authorized_keys file ... |
| 10:59.50 | fireba11 | jm_ how to do that ? |
| 11:00.37 | jm_ | fireba11: probably best to simply start another copy on a new port with -D -ddd |
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| 11:01.23 | concept10 | quick question: after a while my packages database acts slow when installing new apps. any way to clean this? |
| 11:02.05 | concept10 | I know about apt-get clean |
| 11:02.52 | jm_ | fireba11: wait, are you connecting from 1-->2 and 1-->3? |
| 11:02.58 | fireba11 | yes |
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| 11:04.44 | liable | fireba11: what do you mean? its asking for passwd or what? |
| 11:04.49 | fireba11 | yes |
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| 11:05.00 | jm_ | fireba11: password or passphrase? |
| 11:05.06 | fireba11 | it just keeps asking for password when the rsa key should allow access without it |
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| 11:05.19 | fireba11 | jm_ password |
| 11:05.25 | jm_ | fireba11: then you have to debug sshd |
| 11:05.39 | liable | fireba11: challengeresponse set to no? |
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| 11:06.04 | infernix | fireball: what liable says. both ssh and sshd config files have parameters that allow/disallow key use |
| 11:06.15 | darkness_ | Weeeeeeee, jm_ it's working :-) |
| 11:06.17 | msn | i am facing a queer problem, I have a / of 3.8GB |
| 11:06.22 | jm_ | darkness_: good |
| 11:06.33 | msn | a df shows me that the partition is full |
| 11:06.47 | darkness_ | jm_, already have two sshd ip's added to deny. All from China. |
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| 11:07.03 | msn | when I do a du -x --max-depth=1 -h I can only account for 377 MB |
| 11:07.16 | msn | I don't know where to look for the rest of the 3.1 Gb of data |
| 11:07.32 | fireba11 | infernix sshd config on clients are identical |
| 11:07.35 | evilspy | yay! I found source for resize problem! |
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| 11:08.01 | evilspy | it's openssh-server 1:4.2p1-8 |
| 11:08.08 | msn | tried running df with various options. but no change |
| 11:08.09 | fireba11 | infernix: ssh config too ... |
| 11:08.24 | evilspy | how do I downgrade from 4.2p1-8 to 4.2p1-7? |
| 11:08.36 | jm_ | manually |
| 11:08.56 | msn | 43% of the inodes are free |
| 11:09.00 | liable | fireba11: challengeresponse set to no? and sshd restarted sice? sshd is sever not client.. |
| 11:09.46 | evilspy | jm_: I'm sorry to ask.. but how? ._. |
| 11:10.26 | yaboo | pretemc hello |
| 11:10.38 | jm_ | evilspy: download it, install it with dpkg |
| 11:10.54 | darkness_ | Is it rare for someone to attack a box that doesn't have a website and by pure chance they find you running sshd? |
| 11:11.01 | fireba11 | liable: challengeresponse is commented out .. so i guess its no ... i didn't change sshd config at all |
| 11:11.09 | jm_ | FireBlade: default is yes |
| 11:11.11 | jm_ | bah |
| 11:11.26 | fireba11 | jm_ yes, but it was working with that setup ^^ |
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| 11:11.34 | liable | fireba11: set it no |
| 11:11.41 | jm_ | fireba11: which indicates to me the issue is not on the client side |
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| 11:12.30 | fireba11 | i was using rsync to copy files over from box1 to box2 every night .. worked fine ... it just won't work when i tried to redirect from box2 to box3 |
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| 11:13.02 | liable | yes, but we are talking about box3's sshd not box2.. |
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| 11:13.03 | jm_ | your statements are confusing, is it from box2 to box3 now or from box1 to box3? |
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| 11:13.25 | fireba11 | jm_ hm .. i should explain again ... |
| 11:13.41 | liable | fireba11: its box 3 that you need to sort out the sshd, not the client. |
| 11:14.19 | fireba11 | liable: okay, but it seems to me config on box3 and box2 are identical ...^^ |
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| 11:15.13 | bkudria | ho do i run X apps with sudo? currently, i can run something by first running 'sudo -s', and then the graphical app, but how do i run someting directly with 'sudo app-i-want'? it seems $DISPLAY isn't getting set in the second case....is there any way to do so? |
| 11:15.41 | bkudria | err, how* |
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| 11:16.41 | jm_ | !tell bkudria -about sux |
| 11:17.39 | codenamewilley | to upgrade to kernel 2.6 i need to make initrd image specific to 2.6 right? |
| 11:18.04 | codenamewilley | the source that i downloaded does not seem to have its own mkinitrd |
| 11:18.29 | blondie | codenamewilley: why don't you install one using apt-get? |
| 11:19.06 | codenamewilley | blondie:I installed the source thru apt-get |
| 11:19.12 | m4lu6 | apt-question: how do i search on "Tags" section of a deb package ? which util? |
| 11:19.14 | fireba11 | liable jm_ can someoen point me to a nice manual so i can do step-by-step from scratch again ? that's probably faster :-) |
| 11:19.23 | m4lu6 | apt-[some-thing-or-other] i would assume. |
| 11:19.33 | blondie | codenamewilley: why don't you install a binary one? |
| 11:19.44 | bkudria | jm_: i have sux, but i want to use sudo...sux prompts me for root's password all the time, and it runs apps as root, whereas sudo lets me run apps as my user, but with root privs...i can already use sudo -s for a shell, like sux, i want ot be able to do it directly... |
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| 11:20.19 | codenamewilley | blondie:sorry i dint get you? |
| 11:20.35 | codenamewilley | i want to make a custom kernel |
| 11:20.38 | blondie | I see |
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| 11:21.23 | bkudria | jm_: i can of course create an alias that exports DISPLAY and then runns the app i want, but that seems to be a hack... |
| 11:21.49 | m4lu6 | nm. debtags. |
| 11:22.12 | resiak | bkudria: You could use gksudo |
| 11:22.29 | darkness_ | Say i'm trying to open this file but nothing appears in it ? |
| 11:22.32 | darkness_ | 987486 Defl:N 291062 71% 09-29-05 21:06 b4fe0785 |
| 11:23.10 | codenamewilley | so now i have the bzImage of 2.6.and to boot for it i need to it seems i have to edit the grub config (menu.lst) and in that it needs Initrd for 2.6 if i am correct |
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| 11:24.50 | jm_ | fireba11: never seen anything like that, I just copy it over manually |
| 11:25.15 | bkudria | resiak: the kde equiv, kdesu, prompts for the root password too...and i don't want kde to save my password...it might do nefarious things. :) it seems this isn't possible, as i suspected from my googling |
| 11:25.18 | jm_ | bkudria: DSA for sudo explains why it doesn't work and appropriate setting in sudoers will enable it |
| 11:25.42 | resiak | bkudria: Note that I said gksudo, not gksu. I don't know if a kdesudo equivalent exists |
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| 11:25.48 | lehel | hello |
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| 11:26.03 | lehel | nkuttler: wow, kinda simple is this fluxbox ;) |
| 11:26.09 | jayeola | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:26.14 | bkudria | jm_: i'm sorry, i don't understand...can you rephrase? what should i set in sudoers? i read man sudoers, and i didn't see an option to set DISPLAY |
| 11:26.20 | fireba11 | jm_ hm .. not really handy for a daily backup :-) |
| 11:26.23 | lehel | nkuttler: i can't create icons on desktop? |
| 11:26.23 | bkudria | resiak: aah, good point... |
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| 11:28.09 | jm_ | fireba11: no I mean I copy over ssh keys or use ssh-copy-id |
| 11:28.19 | jm_ | bkudria: read DSA first |
| 11:30.15 | lehel | how do i uninstall a package? |
| 11:30.37 | jm_ | fireba11: I copy my backups with rcp :) |
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| 11:30.48 | resiak | lehel: apt-get remove foo |
| 11:30.50 | _puk | apt-get remove <package> |
| 11:30.55 | _puk | *g* |
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| 11:32.48 | jm_ | looks like I might have to whore our manager who is visiting Germany regularly to buy an LCD monitor for me there |
| 11:33.56 | finn | jm_, are they cheaper in germany? |
| 11:34.10 | jm_ | finn: sadly yes, this particular model would cost me 1.5x more here |
| 11:34.11 | weissi | jm_: where do you come from? |
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| 11:35.26 | darkness_ | metawire:/home/darkness# unzip attacklogs.zip |
| 11:35.26 | darkness_ | Archive: attacklogs.zip |
| 11:35.26 | darkness_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:35.36 | darkness_ | Any idea how i can the above file with plz? |
| 11:35.49 | finn | I'd be wiling to send it to you, but if I were you I wouldn't trust "random internet stanger" |
| 11:36.48 | finn | also you'd probably lose a lot to customs |
| 11:37.05 | liable | can what the above file? |
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| 11:37.36 | _puk | darkness: What? Do you want to unzip that file or what? |
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| 11:38.06 | darkness_ | _puk, yes plz? |
| 11:38.38 | haakon | is this the right place to ask for help with debian? |
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| 11:38.50 | haakon | specficily udev permissions? |
| 11:39.00 | liable | erm, isnt it unzipped already? |
| 11:39.26 | liable | haakon: ask away, if someone knows, they will help |
| 11:39.52 | haakon | udev seems to have set permissions incorrectly on files /dev/null on my machine |
| 11:40.01 | haakon | so 660 rather than 666 |
| 11:40.02 | darkness_ | Well the file is unreadable using nano. |
| 11:40.19 | jm_ | weissi: Slovenia |
| 11:40.46 | _puk | darkness_: is unzip installed? |
| 11:40.49 | haakon | can anyone tell me how to fix that permenently? |
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| 11:41.20 | darkness_ | _puk, i thought i had unzipped the file? |
| 11:41.21 | liable | darkness_: judging by the name, try opening it in ethereal.. |
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| 11:42.11 | eye69 | darkness_: I'd guess that's in standard tcpdump format. |
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| 11:42.17 | evilspy | jm_: actually problem wasn't in openssh-server 4.2p1-8 but with updating of sshd .. restarting server fixed that resize problem :P |
| 11:42.24 | cubiq | Hello. If someone is running the postgresql package I would be greateful if you could post the contents of the /etc/init.d/postgresql script. PM me :) |
| 11:42.35 | fireba11 | jm_ liable dang .. found the problem ... it's just me being stupid again |
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| 11:43.22 | nkuttler | cubiq: try to apt-get install --resintall --force-confmiss it |
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| 11:43.51 | jm_ | evilspy: hmm upgrade should do that for you |
| 11:43.53 | cubiq | nkuttler: I didn't install it from packages I compiled it myself :) |
| 11:44.06 | jm_ | evilspy: unless you were connected and had some old copy running |
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| 11:44.55 | liable | cubiq: you can always download the .deb and extract it. |
| 11:45.02 | evilspy | jm_: well the server I just upgraded had 4.2p1-7 and upgraded to 4.2p1-8 .. dpkg just restarted sshd |
| 11:45.09 | jm_ | evilspy: right |
| 11:45.19 | evilspy | I mean I needed to boot server to get it working |
| 11:45.28 | evilspy | it==resizing |
| 11:45.46 | evilspy | everything is working fine now |
| 11:45.51 | cubiq | liable: I know. I just wanted to take a shortcut :) Maybe its best I do that after all.. |
| 11:46.41 | liable | cubiq: if no oone has it, prolly the easiest thing to do. |
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| 11:47.53 | coywolf | what driver to use for Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) ? |
| 11:48.01 | Trewas | meh, firefox leaks X-server memory like crazy... half a gigabyte used in just one day and I have not even surfed any pages with large images |
| 11:48.22 | jm_ | coywolf: did you try the hardware database site? |
| 11:48.37 | weissi | jm_: ooh slovenia :-), your currency is SLT and you have very cheep cigarettes, no? btw. what is the complete name of SLT? |
| 11:48.44 | jayeola | wthat's the best debian candidate for latex? tatex ? |
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| 11:48.50 | cubiq | too bad the deb packages are so oooold. 7.4 when latest is 8.1.3 |
| 11:49.12 | jm_ | weissi: SIT, and yes, I suppose they are cheaper than in Germany, it's short for Slovenian Tolar |
| 11:49.14 | jayeola | s/whtat's/what is/ |
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| 11:50.05 | MishMash | ainmosni?! |
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| 11:50.41 | weissi | jm_, cool, thnx :-) (cigarettes are 4EUR/20cigarettes, I think you had something with 2EUR, we bought _A_LOT_ when we were in croatia and went back to germany :-) ) |
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| 11:51.13 | jm_ | weissi: it depends on the brand, but that sounds about average, and they're even cheaper in Bosnia :) |
| 11:51.16 | darkness_ | jm_, yeah the files were tcp_dumps. Would you treat this as suspicious someone doing this, or can there be a ligit reason for it? |
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| 11:51.33 | jm_ | darkness_: doing what? |
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| 11:51.45 | weissi | jm_: cool, I know where my next holliday will be :-) |
| 11:51.49 | jm_ | weissi: haha |
| 11:52.07 | darkness_ | jm_, i found tcp_dump files on someones ssh account files? |
| 11:52.26 | haakon | how do you fix permissions in udev so they are correct on boot? |
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| 11:52.31 | jm_ | darkness_: were they taken on local machine? |
| 11:52.43 | darkness_ | Well tbh on my box that someone has ssh access too? |
| 11:52.56 | darkness_ | No randon ip numbers. |
| 11:53.19 | jm_ | yes but where were the files generated? sniffing traffic on your machine? |
| 11:53.19 | apecat | Hi. I killed gdm, but the whole graphics card must have frozen or semething, since i can't jump between consoles anymore. Even i if tru to restart gdm via ssh i can't get eny new picture. can i resolv this without booting... i have a few shell users running their ircs in screen ;< |
| 11:53.30 | apecat | *try |
| 11:53.46 | apecat | *solve |
| 11:54.06 | darkness_ | jm_, they were files found on my box under another users name who has ssh access to this box. |
| 11:54.06 | jelly | does top report correct syscall in WCHAN column for anybody on a 2.6 kernel? All I see is "stext" or a number. |
| 11:54.35 | jm_ | darkness_: well it's not suspicious just having files there, you can't do much with it anyway |
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| 11:54.58 | darkness_ | jm_, strange what they were doing tbh. |
| 11:55.02 | jm_ | jelly: yes |
| 11:55.15 | darkness_ | jm_, can i paste you a couple of lines of the logs? |
| 11:55.26 | jm_ | darkness_: naah don't paste here |
| 11:56.01 | jm_ | jelly: but it's not too precise anyway |
| 11:56.17 | weissi | darkness_, take pastebin or #flood |
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| 11:57.43 | coywolf | where can I get a LDAP server? |
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| 11:58.33 | weissi | coywolf, apt-get install slapd ? |
| 11:58.55 | coywolf | weissi, i mean to use others LDAP server, a free one |
| 11:59.07 | coywolf | weissi, not to run a server myself |
| 11:59.35 | blondie | er |
| 11:59.39 | blondie | not sure such things exist? |
| 12:01.24 | darkness_ | jm_, basically it's lots of tcp dumps from randon source ip's to local ip 192.168.168.101. |
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| 12:02.55 | jm_ | darkness_: why don't you ask this person why it's there? |
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| 12:06.32 | cubiq | is there anyway to reverse an dpkg --unpack... I made a little misstake :) |
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| 12:11.38 | rata | hi |
| 12:11.47 | Coder`TuX | hi |
| 12:13.03 | Coder`TuX | how can i configure my network interfaces when debian sarge is booting? (i keep using ifconfig but....) |
| 12:13.20 | faljse | man interfaces |
| 12:13.25 | jm_ | man interfaces, plenty of examples in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown |
| 12:13.39 | weissi | Coder`TuX, man interfaces (edit /etc/network/interfaces) |
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| 12:15.35 | Coder`TuX | ### etherconf DEBCONF AREA. DO NOT EDIT THIS AREA OR INSERT TEXT BEFORE IT. |
| 12:15.39 | Coder`TuX | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:17.00 | jm_ | looks like someone has used etherconf |
| 12:17.00 | bipolar | Does anyone know what might be causing this really weird name resolving problem: http://pastebin.com/639717 |
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| 12:19.08 | Coder`TuX | jm_, i'm not sure if i did, i'm ssh'ing to my gateway now... i haven't touched it in a while but i changed my ISP and i need to change an IP... |
| 12:20.40 | jm_ | Coder`TuX: well doesn't really matter, use what you want |
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| 12:20.57 | Coder`TuX | well, how can i use etherconf again? :-/ |
| 12:22.06 | nkuttler | Coder`TuX: iirc you dpkg-reconfigure it |
| 12:22.16 | Coder`TuX | ok |
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| 12:22.33 | nkuttler | Coder`TuX: although i wouldn't recommend using it |
| 12:22.38 | Coder`TuX | why? |
| 12:22.56 | nkuttler | Coder`TuX: because i don't like it. and it's not flexible enough |
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| 12:35.56 | maxb | Is there a FAQ on kernel upgrades? What confuses me is that the debian package name only varies with the upstream version, not with the debian revision. |
| 12:36.09 | tarzeau | maxb: huh? |
| 12:36.16 | maxb | That means that I can't upgrade to a newer debian revision without overwriting my current kernel |
| 12:36.29 | maxb | If the new package breaks for any reason, that's very bad |
| 12:36.30 | azeem | maxb: that is the same for most other packages |
| 12:36.45 | azeem | maxb: don't use unstable then |
| 12:37.14 | maxb | The upstream kernel version is encoded into the package name, presumably exactly so you can parallel-install multiple versions |
| 12:37.21 | azeem | right |
| 12:37.31 | maxb | I'm confused why the same is not done for the debian revision |
| 12:37.36 | azeem | there is also an abi version |
| 12:37.47 | azeem | maxb: because it is not done in general |
| 12:38.02 | azeem | the package list would grow without limit if you'd do that for every package |
| 12:38.27 | azeem | there is only a libc6 package, not libc6-2.3.6-4, libc6-2.3.6-5 etc. |
| 12:38.31 | maxb | No, not my point. I'm talking solely about kernels. Not everything |
| 12:38.57 | azeem | maxb: if you use unstable, we assume you know how to recover from kernel boot failures |
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| 12:39.02 | eps | if you do it for the kernel why not for everything else? |
| 12:39.08 | azeem | if you use testing, upgrading a kernel should be non-critical |
| 12:39.22 | jengelh | !kernel-on-debian-howto |
| 12:39.36 | eps | azeem that is a painful assumption...took me a good day to learn all of that stuff on the fly when it first happened to me :P |
| 12:39.49 | azeem | eps: it's a general assumption |
| 12:40.01 | azeem | if you run unstable, you know how to fix problems |
| 12:40.03 | maxb | azeem: You seem to be implying that only a single debian revision of any upstream kernel version will ever be allowed into testing. Is that really the case?! |
| 12:40.12 | azeem | or how to find out whether there has been recent breakage |
| 12:40.24 | azeem | maxb: I don't understand your question |
| 12:40.35 | eps | azeem nothing like a good day learning first off what the hell happened, then what things to try and fix it, then fixing it, then enjoying the fact that unix is awesome that you can recover from some thing that bad :P |
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| 12:40.56 | GarethAdams|Work | eps: oh? |
| 12:41.13 | GarethAdams|Work | I uploaded some old files over some new files - can that be fixed? ;) |
| 12:41.19 | eps | hahaha :P |
| 12:41.32 | sep | GarethAdams|Work, yes easily. you jsut restore from backups |
| 12:41.41 | eps | sep you beat me to it :P |
| 12:41.41 | azeem | maxb: if you search for "linux-image" in testing on packages.debian.org, you will see that only 2.6.15-1 kernels are in testing |
| 12:41.48 | azeem | where -1 is the abi rather than the debian revision |
| 12:42.08 | azeem | the revision is 2.6.15-8 for all of them |
| 12:42.11 | GarethAdams|Work | sep: I don't remember mentioning that the system was sensibly maintained ;) |
| 12:42.23 | eps | just a point of interest...why do odd numbered kernel revisions ever make it into testing? shouldn't only even numbers trickel down from unstable? |
| 12:42.30 | eps | GarethAdams|Work lol |
| 12:42.32 | sep | GarethAdams|Work, if you had no backups you didnt realy want those files in the first place. |
| 12:42.35 | sep | :) |
| 12:42.35 | maxb | azeem: That's unhelpful if an upgrade within 2.6.15-* breaks something! |
| 12:42.42 | azeem | maxb: see above |
| 12:42.59 | azeem | eps: there is no destinction between even and uneven for the third digit |
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| 12:43.07 | sep | eps, the kernel numbering scheme was altered there is no stable kernel anymore. |
| 12:43.19 | eps | sep eh? missed that :| |
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| 12:43.39 | eps | so there was a stable fork at what? 2.6.8 or some thing? |
| 12:43.48 | sep | it's the wildly unstable kernels with -rc suffixes and god knows. and the just normalu unstable 2.6.n kernels |
| 12:43.57 | maxb | azeem: Umm, no thanks. The "above" is useless griping |
| 12:44.13 | eps | oh, I've still been sitting on the even kernels assuming they were the stable ones |
| 12:44.21 | sep | eps, no that's just a unsatble kernel too that looked nice at the time sarge froze. there is a reason it installs with 2.4 as the default choise |
| 12:44.31 | azeem | maxb: well, sorry. In any case your suggestion is likely to be rejected by the kernel team |
| 12:44.38 | eps | sep I ment in general |
| 12:44.42 | azeem | maxb: you can ask in #debian-kernel on oftc if you want |
| 12:44.51 | eps | heh, I think 2.4 causes more problems than it fixes :P |
| 12:45.06 | maxb | I'm not asking that broken packages never occur, just that they don't force me to uninstall the prior kernel until after I've had a chance to trial-boot the new onw |
| 12:45.14 | sep | eps, yes if your serious about security you run 2.2 :) |
| 12:45.17 | eps | installing 2.4 on newer systems is a nightmare imo compared to a recent 2.6.12+ kernel :P |
| 12:45.21 | eps | sep lol |
| 12:45.45 | eps | yeah, it's so old not even usb discs are a threat (*that was a joke...I have no idea of the state of 2.2 usb core drivers) |
| 12:46.11 | sep | who uses usb for anything serious ? :) |
| 12:46.13 | azeem | maxb: keep a known good older version around then |
| 12:46.35 | eps | sep hmm...I have one usb printer and my mouse is and i have a pen disc but thats about it |
| 12:46.46 | eps | ipod uses firewire, everything else is old fashioned ports :P |
| 12:47.06 | sep | eps, but you dont depend on any of those. and ipod is a toy with compatibility issues :) |
| 12:47.15 | E-bola | Sarge doesnt support the sata controller on the Intel ICH7R Southbridge ? |
| 12:47.23 | sep | E-bola, corect |
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| 12:47.33 | sep | ich6/7 was not made when sarge was released |
| 12:47.39 | sep | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 12:47.39 | dpkg | it has been said that sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 12:47.50 | sep | but you can get a installer for sarge with a backported kernel there |
| 12:48.26 | bipolar | Does anyone know what might be causing this really weird name resolving problem: http://pastebin.com/639717 |
| 12:48.30 | sep | E-bola, or do a chroot install,. might be just as easy |
| 12:48.36 | eps | sep leave my ipod alone... *hides in a corner...my precious* |
| 12:49.02 | emss | ipods use firewire? |
| 12:49.07 | E-bola | thanks |
| 12:49.15 | sep | bipolar, checked your nsswitch.conf ? does host work ? |
| 12:49.20 | E-bola | sep: where woudl i get an installed with a backported kernel? |
| 12:49.36 | Trewas | E-bola: or just install etch (testing) directly, might be the easiest choice unless you really want to use sarge |
| 12:49.41 | sep | !tell E-bola about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 12:50.04 | bipolar | sep: I'll append the pastebin. host works. nsswitch.conf is "files dns" |
| 12:50.22 | eps | emss indeed they can, they are firewire/usb devices |
| 12:50.28 | eps | though the newer ones are usb only? |
| 12:51.11 | bipolar | sep: http://pastebin.com/639755 |
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| 12:52.18 | quiet | rm... i just did a base sarge install from the binary disc 1... how do i setup apt to use ftp repos now? i thought it was "apt-setup" but that's not a valid command.. i also tried dpkg-reconfigure apt with no luck |
| 12:52.37 | azeem | run apt-setup as root |
| 12:52.38 | quiet | sorry. not a sarge install.. and etch install |
| 12:52.41 | azeem | ah |
| 12:52.50 | sep | bipolar, is this in all tools or only in ping? what about wget, lynx,ftp, telnet, nc ? |
| 12:52.50 | azeem | apt-setup might not exist anymore |
| 12:52.59 | Phated | It doesn't. |
| 12:53.01 | Phated | !apt-setup |
| 12:53.01 | dpkg | well, apt-setup is a means of adding deb/deb-src lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list so that you can install packages from the internet. To install from a cd-rom ask me about 'apt-cdrom'. no longer available in testing/unstable since base-config was removed, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg00199.html. Gone from etch and sid. |
| 12:53.13 | bipolar | sep: apt can't update. thats what clued me in to this. |
| 12:53.29 | quiet | Phated, soo... what am i supposed to do? |
| 12:53.44 | azeem | edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually |
| 12:53.49 | quiet | ok |
| 12:53.56 | azeem | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian testing main |
| 12:54.02 | azeem | replace "de" with your country code |
| 12:54.06 | bipolar | sep: could this be an issue with nscd? |
| 12:54.19 | Phated | Isn't there a list of repos by country somewhere? |
| 12:54.21 | bipolar | sep: maybe it's not updating fast enough. |
| 12:54.47 | quiet | d'oh... nevermind... te entries are already in there.. i just needed to comment out the CD entry. |
| 12:54.48 | jm_ | Phated: web page lists all Debian mirrors |
| 12:54.59 | Phated | Ah, cheers :) |
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| 12:55.32 | sep | bipolar, i'd try without first. |
| 12:55.42 | bipolar | sep: yep. that was it. I forgot that i had that running (ldap setup) |
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| 12:56.15 | quiet | thanks for the help guys... i feel dumb for not checking sources first. :P |
| 12:56.20 | sep | bipolar, was a strange error tho. |
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| 12:56.48 | bipolar | sep: yeah... very weird. restarting nscd cleared it, but it doesn't make much sense... |
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| 12:57.23 | sep | bipolar, whats your negative-time-to-live passwd ? |
| 12:57.30 | sep | bipolar, perhaps it's set a bit long |
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| 12:57.52 | bipolar | sep: I havn't touched it, and don't really know what it is :) |
| 12:58.01 | bipolar | sep: nscd setting? |
| 12:58.09 | sep | /etc/nscd.conf iiirc |
| 12:58.40 | sep | how long it should cache a negative reply |
| 12:58.41 | bipolar | sep: for hosts it's neg:20, pos:3600 |
| 12:59.11 | sep | bipolar, sounds sane, perhaps it just needed a kick |
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| 13:00.02 | bipolar | sep: thanks... I'll kick it again if this happens :) |
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| 13:05.01 | bwbettin | hmm |
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| 13:06.41 | cr3 | anyone happen to know which debian package contains the utf8.def latex file? |
| 13:06.56 | jm_ | cr3: yes |
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| 13:07.10 | cr3 | jm_: how do I find out? |
| 13:07.14 | jm_ | cr3: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:07.27 | jm_ | I recommend apt-file method |
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| 13:08.24 | cr3 | jm_: apt-file search utf8.def returns nothing :( |
| 13:08.33 | jm_ | cr3: did you run update first? |
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| 13:09.59 | cr3 | jm_: dude, thanks! that works marvelously :) |
| 13:10.10 | jm_ | cr3: very nice indeed |
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| 13:11.36 | wwallace_lap | abrotman: how are you my friend? |
| 13:12.44 | E-bola | Ok used the new sarge isntaller with the 2.6.15 kernel |
| 13:12.48 | wwallace_lap | sussudio: how the hell are you , long time no see i though you was dead |
| 13:12.52 | E-bola | it now finds the sata disks, but it finds each disk |
| 13:12.56 | SerajewelKS | does MySQL get restarted when logrotate is run? |
| 13:13.02 | E-bola | it doesnt find the mirror, i made with the onboard raid |
| 13:13.09 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: is there anything in /etc/logrotate.d for it? |
| 13:13.12 | E-bola | Do anybody have any idea for how i can utilize the onboard raid? |
| 13:13.14 | cr3 | jm_: when I apt-file search acroread, I see that /usr/bin/acroread is part of the acroread package. however, when I try to apt-get install acroread, I get: Package acroread is not available... |
| 13:13.15 | jm_ | E-bola: that's normal |
| 13:13.24 | E-bola | f~jm: whats the solution then? |
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| 13:13.35 | SerajewelKS | jm_: yes |
| 13:14.01 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: look in there then |
| 13:14.29 | jm_ | E-bola: 1) use Linux software RAID or LVM or ..., b) use dm-raid if you have to share it with Windows |
| 13:14.39 | SerajewelKS | jm_: hmm by the looks of things, no it doesn't. why would blootbot be losing its MySQL connection frequently? |
| 13:14.42 | E-bola | jm: ao ur saying i cant use the onboard? |
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| 13:14.54 | E-bola | i would prefer to use it, if possible |
| 13:15.02 | jm_ | E-bola: no, I am saying it's lame ass RAID that you're better of avoiding |
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| 13:15.26 | fluxdude | how can I change smbmount to be setuid, I did chmod +s /usr/lib/samba/classic/smbmount but when I used smbmount I got the error: |
| 13:15.28 | E-bola | jm: for debugging its simpler, for none linux skilled ppl |
| 13:15.33 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: beats me |
| 13:15.34 | E-bola | which will also be admin'ing the hw |
| 13:15.35 | fluxdude | libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root. |
| 13:15.38 | E-bola | So is there a way to use it? |
| 13:15.50 | jm_ | cr3: acroread is not in Debian |
| 13:16.00 | SerajewelKS | fluxdude: there is your answer then. you don't. |
| 13:16.09 | SerajewelKS | fluxdude: why would you need smbclient to be suid root? |
| 13:16.22 | SerajewelKS | fluxdude: smbmount rather. |
| 13:16.28 | fluxdude | SerajewelKS: smbmount, I want users to be able to mount smb shares... |
| 13:16.37 | jm_ | fluxdude: they can do that by default ... |
| 13:16.38 | SerajewelKS | fluxdude: smbmount is fuse-based, no? |
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| 13:17.01 | fluxdude | i got the error saying that smbmount needed to be setuid or something... |
| 13:17.18 | SerajewelKS | fluxdude: what does 'ls -l /dev/fuse' say |
| 13:17.18 | fluxdude | smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (508,508) |
| 13:17.18 | fluxdude | smbmnt failed: 1 |
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| 13:17.40 | SerajewelKS | fluxdude: smbmnt is not smbmount |
| 13:17.46 | jm_ | yes, smbmnt needs suid bit, but not smbmount |
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| 13:19.02 | lindenle | Where does one look in the sendmail documentation for a definition of the log levels? |
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| 13:19.07 | SerajewelKS | fluxdude: what does 'ls -l /dev/fuse' say? |
| 13:19.22 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: it's not fuse thing |
| 13:19.22 | tralala | lindenle: sendmail-doc, /usr/share/doc/sendmail* |
| 13:19.32 | speedy | whats the command to reconfigure the network? |
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| 13:19.37 | tralala | just guessing though |
| 13:19.43 | SerajewelKS | jm_: smbmount is |
| 13:19.46 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: nope |
| 13:20.02 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: it's in smbfs package |
| 13:20.08 | jm_ | works even with 2.2 kernel |
| 13:20.18 | SerajewelKS | jm_: hmm... yes i know which package its in |
| 13:20.34 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: how did you manage to link it to FUSE then? |
| 13:20.46 | SerajewelKS | jm_: dunno, i was under the impression it used fuse |
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| 13:21.12 | lewis | I currently have spamassassin running with exim4, on a debian sarge machine. It works, although I still get a few spam messages coming through. However, with Outlook 2003, every single spam message that gets through is detected as junk. My point is, if Outlook 2003 can detect all the spam, with no false positives, what can I do to configure spamassassin that way? |
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| 13:21.49 | jm_ | SerajewelKS: that's fusesmb |
| 13:22.01 | lindenle | tralala: yeah which file in there? |
| 13:22.28 | tralala | lindenle: try to grep what you are looking for |
| 13:22.45 | lindenle | tralala: how do you grep gzipped files? |
| 13:22.50 | tralala | zgrep |
| 13:22.58 | lindenle | tralala: nice |
| 13:23.08 | tralala | isn't it? :) |
| 13:23.13 | SerajewelKS | and/or 'gunzip -c | grep' |
| 13:23.14 | jm_ | lewis: are you training SA at all? |
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| 13:24.03 | lewis | oooh - no |
| 13:24.16 | fireba11 | !smite lewis |
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| 13:24.25 | xerophyte | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:24.29 | lewis | I could look into thast I guess. Although, is there such a thing, as a 'Outlook 2003 Junk Mail' rule set for SpamAssassin? |
| 13:24.56 | fireba11 | lewis: er ... am i supposed to understand what you talking about ? |
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| 13:25.28 | quiet | hrm... anone know if the slim login manager is in etch somewhere? |
| 13:25.36 | quiet | searching for 'slim' doesn't return it.. |
| 13:25.36 | bipolar | lewis: rule set? last time I checked outlook used a baysian filter just like spamassassin. the fact that spamassassin is catching most of your spam with no training whatsover shows you how good it is :) |
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| 13:26.03 | lewis | my point is... |
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| 13:26.06 | quiet | i prefer spambayes for outlook. |
| 13:26.09 | quiet | it works excellent |
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| 13:26.20 | quiet | I install it on everyone's computer here at work. |
| 13:26.29 | lewis | Outlook 2003 catches ALL of my spam, (into the junk mail filter), with no false positives, and no spam slipping through |
| 13:26.30 | fireba11 | quiet: not really efficient that way ... |
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| 13:26.44 | quiet | fireba11, why? |
| 13:26.44 | jm_ | it probably has something like auto mode for SA |
| 13:26.45 | fireba11 | lewis: and ? |
| 13:26.46 | lewis | is there some way I could copy the outlook 2003 filter, and apply it to spamassasin? |
| 13:26.55 | smcavoy | hello, I need to force eth0 and eth1 to 100baseTx-FD. post-up mii-tool -F 100baseTx-FD ethX in interfaces doesn't seem to do it, I have to run it by hand. would up instead of post-up be better? |
| 13:27.00 | lewis | thus, if I am using webmail, or another e-mail client, I won't have any spam! |
| 13:27.07 | fireba11 | quiet: software you need to install on everyone's box ... training every bayesfilter ... |
| 13:27.14 | fireba11 | lewis: no |
| 13:27.20 | bipolar | lewis: it must be using a training file from somewhere. I have no idea of any way to 'export' that list to spamassassin. |
| 13:27.20 | fireba11 | lewis: you don't need to anyway |
| 13:27.22 | quiet | every user has different requirements for what they consider spam. |
| 13:27.23 | jm_ | smcavoy: why doesn't it work? |
| 13:27.48 | basanta | is there such command like gmake?? |
| 13:27.54 | quiet | make |
| 13:27.54 | lewis | oh - so there isn't a standard which outlook uses (apart from the updates) |
| 13:28.00 | lewis | outlook trains itself? |
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| 13:28.03 | tralala | quiet: it doesn't seem to be |
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| 13:28.07 | smcavoy | jm_: I'm not sure why, but each device is set to 100baseTx-HD after I login |
| 13:28.08 | fireba11 | quiet: true but filtering on server works for you average user too :-D |
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| 13:28.35 | Hosti | hi |
| 13:28.35 | bipolar | lewis: thats my understanding... although I don't use outlook except when cleaning up virus infested windows boxes... |
| 13:28.40 | jm_ | smcavoy: up and post-up are the same, alternatively you could set it via module/kernel options, most drivers support it |
| 13:28.45 | loca|host | hello |
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| 13:29.01 | Hosti | i got my computer today 4 dualcore CPUS with quadro fx video card |
| 13:29.02 | smcavoy | jm_: just seems odd why it would not work |
| 13:29.06 | loca|host | i want to download the dvd for stable release (debian sarge) where to get it ? |
| 13:29.10 | fireba11 | lewis: outlook probably uses adress book as whitelist and a couple other tricks |
| 13:29.11 | quiet | fireba11, yeah.. we were doing that.. but it was blocking a lot of emails from other government agencies like HUD and whatnot.. and if i loosened it up.. spam got through.. if i tightened it down, legitimate emails got blocked... so i decided on spambayes, so the users can do it themselves.. and it's learning capabilities are fantastic. |
| 13:29.12 | apacker | Anyone have any experience with DLink gigabit ethernet on Debian stable? Specifically trying to use DGE-530T but cannot modprobe dl2k OR build sk98lin module from dlink website. Can paste specific errors to #flood if desired. |
| 13:29.19 | stew | loca|host: http://debian.org/CD |
| 13:29.20 | jm_ | smcavoy: yes, especially if it works from command line, does it get executed? |
| 13:29.25 | lindenle | tralala: nothing explicitely descibes the levels |
| 13:29.40 | apacker | I think there is some mismatch between my kernel headers and my glibc headers according to googling? Is this some sort of known problem with /usr/include/linux? |
| 13:29.41 | valdyn | loca|host: you probably need a newer kernel than debians default for this |
| 13:29.44 | Hosti | i got my computer today 4 dualcore CPUS with quadro fx video card how do i set debian to utilize my 4 cpu |
| 13:29.46 | tralala | lindenle: do you have the sendmail-doc installed? |
| 13:29.47 | loca|host | there's no DVD for stable release there |
| 13:29.49 | smcavoy | jm_: I haven't tried using anything else to test it... |
| 13:29.54 | lindenle | tralala: yep |
| 13:30.00 | loca|host | valdyn, ??? |
| 13:30.01 | valdyn | loca|host: why would you want a whole DVD |
| 13:30.03 | stew | Hosti: on stable? or testing? |
| 13:30.11 | Hosti | stew stable |
| 13:30.11 | tralala | lindenle: you seem to be out of luch then, sorry. |
| 13:30.12 | lindenle | tralala: should be in cf.README.gz |
| 13:30.13 | tralala | luck |
| 13:30.13 | lewis | thanks for your input guys, will investigate further - found a tool called 'sa-learn' |
| 13:30.15 | lunaphyte_ | is it a big deal to move from stable to testing? |
| 13:30.18 | loca|host | better than 14 CDs :) |
| 13:30.23 | jm_ | smcavoy: maybe replace it with a shell script where you can log the messages to some logfile |
| 13:30.25 | stew | Hosti: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 13:30.35 | valdyn | loca|host: dual core mainsboards and cpus are newer than debian/stable, some work, some do not |
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| 13:30.39 | Wuffi600_ | hi. |
| 13:30.40 | fireba11 | quiet: i got a special imap account where everyone can trow false positives and negatives in folders .. every night spamassassin is trained with those mails then they get wiped ... works pretty well that way. also i don't filter spam, i only mark the messages so the user can put a simple filter rule for sorting out if they want to |
| 13:30.49 | stew | Hosti: uhh, that is assuming that you are on intel cpus |
| 13:30.53 | tralala | lunaphyte_: as big as a reinstall |
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| 13:31.07 | Hosti | valdyn so it might not work is that what you mean |
| 13:31.08 | apacker | can anyone parse this "make" error? usr/include/linux/kernel.h:72: error: syntax error before "size_t" |
| 13:31.19 | tralala | lunaphyte_: or sorry stable to testing - no it is not. |
| 13:31.22 | valdyn | Hosti: yea |
| 13:31.23 | loca|host | valdyn, i just want a dvd iso, have no dual core :) |
| 13:31.25 | lunaphyte_ | tralala: from cd, or can i do some apt-get dist-upgrade magic after changing sources.list? |
| 13:31.26 | Wuffi600_ | how can i remove a package from the db if "apt-get --remove " can't remove it because of an error in the removal script? |
| 13:31.31 | RichiH | apacker: on line 72, there is a syntax error before size_t |
| 13:31.46 | jm_ | it most likely means it doesn't know what size_t is |
| 13:31.50 | valdyn | loca|host: oh sorry, i should have talked to Hosti |
| 13:31.57 | lunaphyte_ | tralala: you had me worried for a moment :) |
| 13:32.02 | loca|host | valdyn, no problem |
| 13:32.06 | tralala | lunaphyte_: that's it - change the sources.list and do dist-upgrade (from either a cd set or a network) |
| 13:32.07 | fireba11 | Wuffi600_: checked that package for bug reports ? |
| 13:32.18 | apacker | RichiH, jm_ ok, but I did not write this code. it is a module for my network card. I think it doesn't know because I have the wrong headers? How do I know which the correct ones would be? |
| 13:32.22 | loca|host | JVJB, thank you very much |
| 13:32.24 | Wuffi600_ | fireba11: it's no official package. |
| 13:32.28 | JVJB | np |
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| 13:32.31 | tralala | lunaphyte_: yeah, I read the question right to left :) |
| 13:32.38 | jm_ | apacker: the ones matching your kernel |
| 13:32.41 | fireba11 | Wuffi600_: then hit the guy who packaged it :-) |
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| 13:32.52 | lindenle | Maybe someon can tell me if procmail is the local delivery agent by default for sendmail on woody? |
| 13:33.03 | Wuffi600_ | fireba11: it's "kdebluetooth" that can't be removed. |
| 13:33.08 | apacker | jm_, I downloaded the linux-kernel-headers that match uname -r. No dice. |
| 13:33.09 | valdyn | Hosti: you should see 8 cpus anyway, not 4, if things work correctly |
| 13:33.11 | fireba11 | Wuffi600_: also you cound check what the package does and uninstall by hand .. not funny though |
| 13:33.19 | streuner | lindenle: no |
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| 13:33.30 | apacker | jm_, Do I need to simlink them somehow? Could older ones be obfuscating the situation? |
| 13:33.34 | jm_ | lindenle: seeing as sendmail doesn't depend on it ... |
| 13:33.36 | streuner | lindenle: procmail isn't installed by default... |
| 13:33.42 | avds | do I need a fancy videocard to watch videos with mplayer or will an old 16 MB PCI card work OK? |
| 13:33.51 | tralala | lindenle: are you tied up to sendmail? I think woody has exim too. |
| 13:33.56 | jm_ | apacker: it should automatically use /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build symlink to find them |
| 13:33.57 | Wuffi600_ | fireba11: can i cheat the apt-database that apt thinks the package is not installed? |
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| 13:34.20 | fireba11 | Wuffi600_: yes ... but i din't think its a good idea to do so |
| 13:35.06 | smcavoy | jm_: I have eth1 set to manual (it's only used a bridging device) and when I run ifdown/ifup I get: interface eth1 not configured |
| 13:35.13 | apacker | jm_, Well someone is not talking to someone properly. Any more advice on how to figure out what parties are involved and what they are saying incorrectly? |
| 13:35.13 | Wuffi600_ | fireba11: better i'd cheat the removal script? |
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| 13:35.30 | jengelh | eth1 as a bridge? uh oh |
| 13:35.38 | apacker | jm_, I feel like the code is not referencing what it wants correctly? But it finds /usr/include/linux ok... |
| 13:35.45 | jm_ | smcavoy: right, that's why then |
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| 13:36.11 | jm_ | apacker: I have a feeling it's not using the new 2.6 build system properly |
| 13:36.23 | jm_ | sorry gotta run now |
| 13:36.37 | apacker | jm_, uname -r yields 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 13:36.50 | apacker | damnit! heh. |
| 13:37.01 | smcavoy | jm_: I thought by specifying up/down command it would execute the commands given to bring it up/down? |
| 13:37.22 | apacker | OK, new question! who understands this: "/lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/dl2k.o: unresolved symbol crc32_le_Ra34f1ef5" when trying to insmod dl2k? |
| 13:37.31 | apacker | smcavoy, do you have /etc/network/interfaces set properly? |
| 13:37.46 | jengelh | apacker : You did not build the kernel with the same module symbol versions |
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| 13:37.57 | epictetus | is it just me or is network solutions down |
| 13:38.00 | jengelh | some invented crap that nobody understands |
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| 13:38.35 | apacker | jengelh, huh? can I fix that? I did not build this kernel - this is a pure debian stable install. |
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| 13:38.43 | smcavoy | apacker: looks like it, eth0 works fine. its just eth1 that I've got set as manual |
| 13:38.57 | jengelh | apacker : You need to have the original Module.symvers file with which the kernel(bzImage) was compiled. |
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| 13:39.26 | apacker | smcavoy, paste your /etc/network/interfaces to flood? "not configured" seems to me to say that interfaces is not written properly? |
| 13:39.51 | Hosti | i got my computer today 4 dualcore CPUS with quadro fx video card how do i set debian to utilize my 4 cpu |
| 13:39.59 | apacker | jengelh, which package contains Module.symvers, and how I do make sure I get the one that matches whatever kernel I have compiled? |
| 13:40.05 | sep | Hosti, install a -smp kernel |
| 13:40.26 | abrotman | because the video card matters :) |
| 13:40.26 | smcavoy | apacker: done |
| 13:40.40 | apacker | smcavoy, reading |
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| 13:40.55 | loca|host | am here for a little consultancy, i dont know to whom i should talk in the debian community, i need some ones in the deciding department in debian, i represent a Tunisian company wich got all its activities based on debian, we provide professional solutions based on debian, we're just in startup, we're planing to provide free debian cd+free shiping for the community site... i want to get in contact with deciders, i have a big installation of a mail s |
| 13:40.55 | loca|host | erver that i would like to present an offer to the customer being a debian's representor, so i would like to get an official representation |
| 13:41.03 | Hosti | sep can it support 8 core CPUS? |
| 13:41.03 | bipolar | Hosti: you have 4 dual cores? 8 cores? |
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| 13:41.08 | tralala | apacker: do you really need to use a 2.4 kernel? |
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| 13:41.10 | Hosti | yes 8 cores |
| 13:41.13 | bipolar | Hosti: luck bastard :) |
| 13:41.25 | abrotman | Hosti: it should |
| 13:41.39 | tralala | Hosti: it supports up to 32 (or 64) CPUs |
| 13:41.39 | apacker | tralala, who knows? This is debian stable. I took what it gave me. |
| 13:42.08 | apacker | tralala, apt-get update apt-get upgrade reveals I am completely up to date.... can I force the upgrade to a 2.6 kernel? |
| 13:42.09 | tralala | apacker: if you don't know then you will want to install a 2.6 kernel |
| 13:42.27 | tralala | apacker: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6 |
| 13:42.28 | apacker | tralala, why was I not given that choice? I did the minimal install from cd then straight to the net |
| 13:42.28 | roderyk | Had to reinstall my laptop today; Installed wmii and have the wierdest situation: when I copy /etc/wmii to ~/.wmii/ my WM does not load completely, but if I remove the local copy and it uses /etc/wmii everything seems to work.... Someone come across this? |
| 13:42.57 | tralala | apacker: because you didn't read the installation manual? |
| 13:43.04 | Hosti | where can i get SMP kernel for debian |
| 13:43.16 | tralala | Hosti: from the debian archive |
| 13:43.53 | apacker | tralala, zing! I did, apparently not carefully enough... |
| 13:43.54 | sep | Hosti, just install it using apt-get |
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| 13:44.09 | apacker | smcavoy, sorry man, you have exceeded my knowledge (perhaps unsurprisingly) |
| 13:44.19 | abrotman | Hosti: which version of debian are you running ? |
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| 13:44.33 | roderyk | Or can someone recommend a different tiling WM? |
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| 13:45.19 | abrotman | Hosti: ? |
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| 13:46.22 | smcavoy | apacker: thanks for the try |
| 13:46.39 | the_ball | hi, i have set up gentoo in a vmware virutal machine, now i am ready to transfer it to my laptop. I booted the laptop with the net-inst cd and the same with the vmware image, then i used "cd /mnt/gentoo/; tar cfp - . | nc 192.168.0.1 1234" on the vmware image and "nc -l 1234 | tar xvfp -" on my laptop. My problem is that when the files are extracted on the laptop some symbolic links are not made because the target files have not been "extracted" yet. H |
| 13:46.39 | the_ball | ow can i copy all files and symbolic links with permissions? Running the tar job twice will fix it i guess, but there must be a better way? (i know this is not #gentoo but this is more a fileoperation question, and no one at #gentoo is answering) |
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| 13:46.50 | abrotman | the_ball: #gentoo ? |
| 13:46.58 | abrotman | #vmware? |
| 13:48.14 | the_ball | it's a file operation question, not specific to gentoo, vmware or debian, but there are normaly many smart heads in here |
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| 13:48.44 | fluxdude | smbfs connection from a linux box take like 4 sessions to a windows machine which is causing problems because other people since there is a 10 connection limit, how do I make it have only 1 connection? |
| 13:49.03 | cheal | the_ball: this is a Debian support channel. ask #smart-heads |
| 13:49.07 | E-bola | HAve anybody installed debian sarge on a new system and used software raid, the installer dont seam to want to let me install on a mirror |
| 13:49.16 | tralala | the_ball: this is the first time I'm hearing that tar doesn't create symlinks for missing targets. I guess your tar is broken. |
| 13:49.18 | abrotman | the_ball: your question is not related to debian in any way .. go to ##linux or #gentoo or #vmware .. NOT HERE |
| 13:49.18 | bbrazil | fluxdude: you can't. patch windows |
| 13:49.18 | E-bola | it just keeps saying no raid autodetect volumes detected |
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| 13:49.31 | E-bola | even if i mark 2 drives with 1 big raid psyical volume partition |
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| 13:50.43 | loca|host | hello no answer here . |
| 13:50.44 | loca|host | ? |
| 13:50.50 | the_ball | tralala, oh that's veird, i was reading the man page and i can't find any switches or mention about handeling symlinks :( |
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| 13:51.27 | tralala | the_ball: read the info page |
| 13:51.56 | tralala | in each case tar is supposed to handle symlinks correctly no matter what |
| 13:51.58 | abrotman | !d-i the_ball |
| 13:51.58 | dpkg | the_ball, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 13:52.05 | jengelh | what's the opposite of crosscompiling? :) |
| 13:52.26 | tralala | the_ball: probably it would be working if you were using debian |
| 13:52.33 | fluxdude | bbrazil: that's as dumb as windows having the 10 connection limit on workstations, at least that is to for license compliance, shouldn't it be easier to patch samba? |
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| 13:52.42 | E-bola | Anybody have a doc on how to get debian installed on a mirror raid? |
| 13:52.46 | E-bola | (creating it in the process) |
| 13:52.50 | abrotman | E-bola: sw or hw? |
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| 13:52.58 | bbrazil | fluxdude: you'd have to completely rearchitecht SMB for what you want |
| 13:53.10 | E-bola | abrotman: sw |
| 13:53.20 | the_ball | tralala, im sure it would, and i do use debian for my server |
| 13:53.22 | E-bola | i got 2 blank 80gb disks |
| 13:53.26 | bbrazil | fluxdude: if you're connecting to 4 shares, that's 4 connections |
| 13:53.42 | E-bola | I'd prefer to have 1 device which would be a mirror made up of those 2 disks |
| 13:53.46 | E-bola | which i coudl then partition as i see fit |
| 13:53.54 | abrotman | the_ball: regardless .. your question is not related to debian .. ask gentoo why their tar doesn't work the way you think it should |
| 13:54.01 | bbrazil | fluxdude: have you considered reorganising your directory structure so that only one is needed? |
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| 13:55.21 | duanear | Do I need to use the smp kernel-image with a P4 HT? |
| 13:55.32 | fluxdude | bbrazil: doh, I just realised we've got 4 shares connecting.... that'd be it then, not M$ fault, not samba's fault, it's our fault! (or rather my predecessor who set it up this way O:-) ) |
| 13:55.34 | duanear | kernel-image-2.6-686 is crashing on boot |
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| 13:56.55 | abrotman | duanear: that kernel shouldn't crash .. but yes for HT you need -smp |
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| 13:57.17 | vincint | alguem pode me ajudar??? |
| 13:57.18 | E-bola | abrotman actualy a guy on http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm has the exact same problem |
| 13:57.26 | vincint | ALGUEM PODE ME AJUDAR????? |
| 13:57.36 | E-bola | if u install the sarge with kernel 2.6.15 it wont make software raid on a proliant 110 |
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| 13:57.51 | abrotman | E-bola: ? |
| 13:57.57 | abrotman | !br |
| 13:57.58 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 13:58.02 | epictetus | okay now I am confused |
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| 13:58.20 | abrotman | E-bola: oh .. maybe try the 2.6.12 ? |
| 13:58.24 | abrotman | !tell E-bola about sarge uni |
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| 13:59.24 | E-bola | abrotman: any idea if that supports the intel ichr7 southbridge? |
| 13:59.26 | epictetus | it seems to me like network solutions and godaddy are both down |
| 13:59.35 | epictetus | can anyone get to netsol.com or godaddy.com ? |
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| 13:59.46 | abrotman | E-bola: the .12 may .. not sure .. guess you'll have to try it |
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| 14:00.08 | vincint | I'AM NEED SOME HELP |
| 14:00.10 | abrotman | epictetus: godaddy yes .. netsol no |
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| 14:00.19 | abrotman | vincint: /join #debian-br |
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| 14:00.53 | vincint | thanks |
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| 14:02.24 | E-bola | !tell E-bola about sarge 2.6.14 |
| 14:02.37 | apacker | tralala, I read this install manual http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ That leads you to install from a minimal cd, if you like, available at http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ I am never given the choice to choose my kernel. What step did I supposedly miss (so that I don't screw up again next time) ? |
| 14:02.38 | duanear | argh, kernel-image-2.6-686-smp crashes as well |
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| 14:02.47 | duanear | kernel-image-2.4-686-smp boots fine |
| 14:04.15 | tralala | apacker: the boot options of the cd |
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| 14:04.15 | E-bola | !tell E-bola about sarge 2.6.12 |
| 14:04.15 | duanear | "Badness in kobject_get at lib/kobject.c : 422" |
| 14:04.15 | abrotman | E-bola: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.12 |
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| 14:05.36 | apacker | tralala, "At the default priority, the installer will choose one [kernel] for you that best matches your hardware" so I did NOT have the choice. |
| 14:05.36 | E-bola | hmm what kernel does sid ship with? |
| 14:05.47 | E-bola | debian.org is hard to navigate :/& |
| 14:05.48 | blondie | 3.5 |
| 14:06.02 | epictetus | sid doesn't ship |
| 14:06.03 | epictetus | hehe |
| 14:06.04 | apacker | tralala, I'm not trying to be a dick here. Just pointing out that 2.6 is not the default |
| 14:06.05 | epictetus | does it? |
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| 14:06.32 | tralala | apacker: it isn't but you have the choice to use it if you want to |
| 14:06.49 | tralala | and you really want to if you don't know what you want |
| 14:06.56 | ESPOiG | bmp or xmms? |
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| 14:07.09 | tombs | hi all |
| 14:07.33 | tralala | apacker: anyway even if you install a 2.4 kernel you can switch to 2.6 with a single apt-get command |
| 14:07.42 | tralala | so there isn't a big deal anyway |
| 14:07.44 | g8se | I've just applied kernel 2.4.27-3 to a bunch of servers, and now on one of them I'm getting some weird networking behaviour, anyone able to help tonight? |
| 14:07.44 | abrotman | epictetus: it does not |
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| 14:07.54 | abrotman | define weird |
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| 14:08.12 | apacker | tralala, it did indeed work :) but all those errors i was getting were really annoying to find out I simply needed the newer better kernel... still have yet to get the network card working though ! |
| 14:08.14 | g8se | we use an eth1, and eth1:2, and eth1:1 |
| 14:08.39 | g8se | packets to the ip address on eth1:2 no longer work |
| 14:08.42 | E-bola | Cant debian utilize onboard controllers raid setup? I have a server (proliant ml 110) with an intel ichr7 chipset with onboard sata controller, if i create a mirror raid with it, debian still see's 2 individual disks. ? |
| 14:08.55 | g8se | we've got eth1:2 so we can run apache-ssl on a different IP address, to host a different site |
| 14:08.58 | tralala | apacker: do you have the module loaded and the interface appearing? |
| 14:09.09 | g8se | Now no packets to the second IP address succeed |
| 14:09.17 | apacker | tralala, module just loaded correctly... not sure how to make the little guy eth1? |
| 14:09.47 | g8se | when doing tcpdump on the1, we see the packets coming in, and sometiems they seem to go back out, but they seem to have the incorrect source ip address |
| 14:09.49 | apacker | tralala, oh wait, dmesg reveals he is. now to set it up |
| 14:10.17 | abrotman | E-bola: because it's not real RAID |
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| 14:10.34 | tralala | apacker: man interfaces |
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| 14:11.04 | apacker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:12.16 | E-bola | abrotman: you mean, no debian cant utilize it? |
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| 14:13.35 | abrotman | E-bola: i mean it's not hardware raid |
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| 14:13.42 | abrotman | !sata faq |
| 14:13.42 | dpkg | http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html or http://linux.yyz.us/sata/ |
| 14:14.17 | abrotman | E-bola: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#intel-ich7 |
| 14:14.57 | apacker | tralala, I have two network cards. One is DHCP for the internet. The other is a private 192.168 internal network. Now that both cards are up, I cannot hit the machine on either network. Thoughts? |
| 14:15.41 | E-bola | abrotman: good info, i dont get why i cant make my own software raid with the sarge installer though |
| 14:15.45 | apacker | apacker, I'm not a networking guru, and man interfaces doesn't seem to cover this somewhat odd situation. I think I need to teach the machine to respond to both networks? or map ssh to the public network? |
| 14:15.56 | tralala | apacker: make sure your interfaces file is set up correctly and you *don't* have two default gateways |
| 14:15.57 | E-bola | andothers cant seam to either, so im gonna try to boot up a livecd and make it manualy |
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| 14:16.14 | E-bola | if i create a sfotware raid, and then reboot the sarge installer should be able to see it? |
| 14:16.25 | abrotman | E-bola: is this for a server or workstation? |
| 14:16.26 | abrotman | !ig |
| 14:16.26 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
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| 14:17.04 | apacker | tralala, well I still want the private network to be able to route OUT via 192.168.0.1 ....I found a solution for the people in my lab on their windows machine by editing the routing table - can that be done here somewhere? |
| 14:18.06 | tralala | apacker: networking is a topic of its own, read something about it. |
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| 14:19.09 | g8se | don't worry, found I had to add another rule to my shorewall rules. Seems 2.4.27-2 netfilter code was less stringent than 2.4.27-3 or something |
| 14:19.14 | g8se | thats the only explanation I can come up with |
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| 14:19.24 | valdyn | apacker: if I understand you correctly: your private network boxes get out via 'route add default gw 192.168.0.1' |
| 14:20.04 | valdyn | apacker: 192.168.0.1 has to do IP Masquerading ( or one of the boxes between 192.168.0.1 and the internet ) |
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| 14:20.37 | apacker | valdyn, that command does look like what I need. I do not need ip masquerading I do not think - the public network card takes care of "getting to the internet" |
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| 14:21.12 | valdyn | apacker: uh, you may be right effectly, but what you just said makes no sense..) |
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| 14:21.40 | valdyn | apacker: anyway, some box has to do masquerading, maybe that is already setup, I wouldnt know that. |
| 14:22.05 | aphexer | i have a reproduceable segmentation fault in apt-get and aptitude... what can i do about it? |
| 14:22.20 | valdyn | apacker: reinstall dpkg,apt-get, aptitude |
| 14:22.23 | apacker | valdyn, Here's the network topology: a normal public DHCP network at a university. Inside my lab we have an internal only gigabit private network driven by a gigabit switch which is the gateway for the private net as 192.168.0.1 |
| 14:22.28 | duanear | Does rsync use an encrypted connection? |
| 14:22.39 | apacker | I want the box to be publicly accessible, as well as accessible to people in the lab on the internal network only |
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| 14:22.53 | apacker | aphexer, see valdyn comment to me |
| 14:22.58 | aphexer | yeah :) |
| 14:23.10 | aphexer | valdyn: how do i reinstall dpkg, apt-get, aptitude without dpg, apt-get and aptitude? |
| 14:23.22 | valdyn | aphexer: apt-get install --reinstall <packagelist> |
| 14:23.27 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, does somebody has Gsynaptics working in etch? |
| 14:23.44 | aphexer | valdyn: that segfaults too |
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| 14:24.05 | valdyn | aphexer: try to dpkg -i a package, see if that segfaults |
| 14:24.17 | aphexer | valdyn: then i need to download the debfile right? |
| 14:24.27 | valdyn | aphexer: if it does not, download aptitude/apt-get manually and dpkg -i those |
| 14:24.35 | aphexer | ok |
| 14:25.43 | valdyn | aphexer: your packages should already be in /var/cache/apt/archives/ so you dont have to download them in that case |
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| 14:26.08 | aphexer | valdyn: ah right, thanks |
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| 14:26.19 | valdyn | duanear: it can use an encrypted connection |
| 14:26.30 | duanear | valdyn: does it by default? |
| 14:26.48 | valdyn | duanear: no idea, doubt it |
| 14:27.17 | duanear | Is rsh encrypted? |
| 14:27.26 | valdyn | duanear: you want to use rsync over ssh |
| 14:27.32 | duanear | yep |
| 14:28.43 | aphexer | valdyn: thanks, reinstalling helped |
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| 14:34.48 | abrotman | !moo |
| 14:34.48 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 14:34.59 | bipolar | lol |
| 14:35.12 | cheal | !abrotmoo |
| 14:35.12 | dpkg | maaaan! I am abrotmoo, hear me man, I weigh twice as much as moon, I'm a man, eating grass, factoid gas comes out my ass. I'm a man, you are too; join us all! type !moo. |
| 14:35.29 | bipolar | omfg |
| 14:35.49 | abrotman | !chealer |
| 14:35.49 | dpkg | [chealer] a working factoid |
| 14:35.52 | abrotman | hehe |
| 14:35.59 | abrotman | cheal: you're a factoid! |
| 14:36.00 | bipolar | thats the funniest thing I've seen today |
| 14:36.07 | abrotman | i guess that's better than being canadian |
| 14:36.12 | cheal | abrotman: yes, but I'm fixed now :) |
| 14:36.26 | abrotman | cheal: and we all sent the doctor a gift as a thank you |
| 14:36.35 | jnco | nerd news: network solutions was down this morning |
| 14:36.39 | smcavoy | where do I specify parameters for modules? |
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| 14:36.51 | abrotman | jnco: it's not the first time |
| 14:36.54 | cheal | abrotman: I appreciate your sympathy |
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| 14:38.38 | valdyn | smcavoy: in /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 14:39.22 | abrotman | smcavoy: if you use modconf, it will ask you |
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| 14:41.22 | smcavoy | does modconf update /etc/modprobe.d then? |
| 14:42.51 | smcavoy | abrotman: modconf seems to allow only add/remove of modules. no interface to specify parameters |
| 14:43.20 | abrotman | smcavoy: should be there if they module accept parameters |
| 14:43.55 | smcavoy | abrotman: maybe for non loaded module, but not for a loaded one |
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| 14:45.03 | smcavoy | valdyn: what is the format to use/which file? |
| 14:45.29 | abrotman | smcavoy: you can't specify parameters after it's been loaded .. |
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| 14:45.52 | valdyn | smcavoy: any file you want, create any |
| 14:46.04 | valdyn | smcavoy: for the format see the existing files or man modprobe |
| 14:46.10 | abrotman | smcavoy: in order for the options to take efffect .. you'll have to reload the module |
| 14:47.16 | smcavoy | abrotman: its for the network cards, I'm logged into the box over ssh. and its in the noc. |
| 14:47.34 | abrotman | smcavoy: ok .. and? |
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| 14:48.34 | prem_ | hi |
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| 14:48.44 | smcavoy | abrotman: bringing down the box right now would not be good. I just need it for the next time it boots |
| 14:49.13 | ongeboren | hi, my windows reordered the pertition numbers and now grub fails to load.. i can only boot knoppix for now, how can I restore my mbr? |
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| 14:49.15 | prem_ | all of a sudden my usb-storage is not auto-detected, i have to mount manually, did a apt-get distupgrade last night |
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| 14:49.54 | valdyn | !dist-upgrade |
| 14:49.54 | dpkg | ask me about 'woody->sarge' or 'sarge->etch', or a parameter to apt-get which will do intelligent dependency handling (as opposed to "upgrade"). It will install new packages and clobber old ones as needed. Do not blindly use dist-upgrade. man apt-get, and read carefully. see <why not dist upgrade> |
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| 14:50.03 | wouterrr | hello |
| 14:50.22 | smcavoy | valdyn: this for eth0 and eth1/2 (last two are the same module). would the alias then be eth0 eth1 eth2? |
| 14:50.26 | ongeboren | !grub |
| 14:50.27 | dpkg | methinks grub is [grub] Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader that can boot a lot of OSes, understands a lot of filesystems including reiserfs.. Go here for an excellent step-by-step description of setting up grub on your system: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622, or a distributed internet crawler.. NOT recommendend with JFS |
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| 14:51.00 | E-bola | abrotman: i tried the netinstall of etch, that worked |
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| 14:51.16 | E-bola | i dont know why software raid wouldnt work under the old sarge installer even with newest kernel |
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| 14:51.18 | quiet | it does work... it works nicely |
| 14:51.27 | lognep | hi there ... should ITP request be always preceded by a RFP? |
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| 14:51.49 | spauldo_ | hey, anyone here have issues with installing sarge on tiny (say, 200MB) drives? Grub is apparently throwing a fit. |
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| 14:52.32 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 14:52.32 | dpkg | somebody said tetrinet was probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
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| 14:52.56 | FromTO | I have this problem with ssh. It freezes after a short time of inactivity. I changed ClientAliveInterval, and ServerAliveInterval to every 10 seconds but it still freezes. I also noticed that all the times it freezes I am still connected to the server. any ideas |
| 14:52.56 | jshriver | Is there a way of seeing what drivers are linked to what /dev/? |
| 14:53.13 | jshriver | when I try setmixer -V I only get 3 things line 1 line 2 and line 3 |
| 14:53.36 | wouterrr | (EE) Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0) |
| 14:53.36 | wouterrr | (EE) Failed to load module "pcidata" (module does not exist, 0) |
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| 14:53.43 | wouterrr | how in debians name can i fix that? |
| 14:53.52 | wouterrr | it's truly annoying and i can't find an answer on the net |
| 14:54.06 | valdyn | wouterrr: why are you trying to load those modules at all? |
| 14:54.10 | azeem | wouterrr: tried to comment out those modules in xorg.conf? |
| 14:54.12 | wouterrr | i don't, the binaries those. |
| 14:54.15 | wouterrr | they are not in xorg.conf. |
| 14:54.22 | wouterrr | *binary does |
| 14:54.22 | azeem | wouterrr: what version of X/Debian are you running? |
| 14:54.29 | wouterrr | testing 3.1 |
| 14:54.38 | azeem | testing is not 3.1 |
| 14:54.43 | abrotman | E-bola: i don't know either |
| 14:54.43 | wouterrr | X Window System Version 6.9.0 (Debian 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 20060114230205 David Nusinow <dnusinow@debian.org>) |
| 14:54.51 | quiet | etch. |
| 14:55.01 | abrotman | wouterrr: did you try to reconfigure X? |
| 14:55.17 | displague | what is the quickest way to say that an installed package provides another (depended upon) one? (I want to tell dpkg that libmysqlclient15off provides libmysqliclient15 in this case, without rebuilding libmysqlclient15off) |
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| 14:55.20 | quiet | try to let X configure itself even... X - configure |
| 14:55.21 | wouterrr | i did, i tried to re-install and all... but even a topic on google with lusers with the same problem does not give a solution |
| 14:55.23 | valdyn | !find bitmap.o |
| 14:55.33 | wouterrr | Does not work, and bitmap should be installed but it is not |
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| 14:55.36 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bitmap.o' (2): (/usr/lib/ocaml/3.09.1/camlimages/bitmap.o) in libdevel/libcamlimages-ocaml-dev ;; (/usr/lib/mercury/ints/bitmap.opt, /usr/lib/mercury/ints/hlc.gc/bitmap.opt, /usr/lib/mercury/ints/asm_fast.gc/bitmap.opt) in devel/mercury. |
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| 14:56.20 | azeem | wouterrr: so you are sure bitmap is not mentioned in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
| 14:56.27 | wouterrr | i know 100% sure. |
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| 14:57.11 | wouterrr | Fatal server error: |
| 14:57.11 | wouterrr | Unable to load required base modules, Exiting... |
| 14:57.17 | wouterrr | like i said, the binary requests them. |
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| 14:57.55 | Dru | afternoon all |
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| 14:58.26 | valdyn | !find libbitmap.so etch |
| 14:58.44 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libbitmap.so' (2): (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so) in x11/xserver-xorg ;; (/usr/lib/debug/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so) in x11/xserver-xorg-dbg. |
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| 14:58.52 | prem_ | all of a sudden my usb-storage is not auto-detected, i have to mount manually, did a apt-get distupgrade last night |
| 14:58.55 | wouterrr | and i have both, valdyn. |
| 14:59.11 | abrotman | wouterrr: you can specify they load intsead of letting X try to do it automagically |
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| 14:59.23 | valdyn | wouterrr: both what? |
| 14:59.26 | tomie | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.26 | tomie | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.30 | wouterrr | i can, but that did not make any difference, abrotman |
| 14:59.34 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 14:59.34 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 14:59.39 | tarzeau | tomie: debian has no livecd |
| 14:59.42 | wouterrr | i have both xserver-xorg & *-dbg |
| 14:59.43 | C`Alex | Hello, how i can install imap? |
| 14:59.54 | valdyn | wouterrr: reinstall xserver-xorg |
| 15:00.00 | abrotman | C`Alex: pick an imap server |
| 15:00.04 | tomie | tarzeau: but grub |
| 15:00.06 | tarzeau | C`Alex: apt-cache search imap |
| 15:00.13 | tarzeau | tomie: but do you have debian? |
| 15:00.21 | tomie | yes |
| 15:00.42 | tomie | sid |
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| 15:04.32 | wouterrr | i know what went wrong, i mixed unstable and testing |
| 15:04.33 | wouterrr | god damned |
| 15:04.36 | wouterrr | arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 15:04.48 | js_ | owned |
| 15:04.56 | wouterrr | this sickens me |
| 15:04.59 | wouterrr | ffs, damn typos |
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| 15:05.58 | abrotman | wouterrr: right .. unstable is typed almost the same as testing :)_ |
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| 15:06.14 | wouterrr | j*** this is stupid |
| 15:06.19 | wouterrr | thanks guys, for your time |
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| 15:08.54 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 15:08.54 | dpkg | it has been said that qotd97 is [21:05:13] <MarkS> guys, just a quick poll/survey. What irc client are you using? [21:05:32] <pipeline> MarkS: Just /version #debian [21:05:54] <MarkS> oh cool... thanks pipeline. I didn't realize I could do that. |
| 15:09.18 | streuner | haha |
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| 15:13.50 | prem_ | hi all, |
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| 15:14.40 | prem_ | just installed mplayer in chroot 32-bit, all formats decoding video fine, no audio. i am using both alsa and alsa-oss please help me |
| 15:14.55 | LordNazgul | does sid have updates from security.debian.org? |
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| 15:16.40 | abrotman | LordNazgul: no |
| 15:16.59 | LordNazgul | that would eaplain why i wasnt hitting the source ;) |
| 15:17.37 | abrotman | yes it would |
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| 15:20.23 | cahoot | prem_: so does sound work in other apps? |
| 15:20.38 | prem_ | cahoot, no |
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| 15:21.15 | bipolar | amen! the last vestages of the old file/sql server have been moved to the new sarge system! |
| 15:21.23 | cahoot | prem_: run alsamixer in a term - any errors? |
| 15:21.59 | prem_ | cahoot, no errors and i made sure that none is mute |
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| 15:22.48 | cahoot | prem_: what card? |
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| 15:23.00 | cahoot | prem_: err what card - module? |
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| 15:23.35 | prem_ | cahoot, its a nvidia3 chipset , i have seen this working before, |
| 15:23.57 | snail | can someone recommend a pdf viewer that is in stable, understands links in pdfs and talks to cups ? |
| 15:24.16 | prem_ | snail, evince? |
| 15:24.20 | cahoot | prem_: so what module do you/it use? |
| 15:24.30 | prem_ | cahoot, snd-intel8x0 |
| 15:25.21 | C`Alex | Hello, how i can install imap? |
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| 15:25.22 | C`Alex | :( |
| 15:25.24 | C`Alex | don't find |
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| 15:25.39 | cahoot | prem_: and you don't have any oss module loaded (apart fron snd-pcm-oss)? |
| 15:25.39 | resiak | !tell streuner -about enter |
| 15:25.40 | bipolar | snail: kpdf? |
| 15:25.55 | prem_ | cahoot, it is loaded ! |
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| 15:26.06 | cahoot | huh? |
| 15:26.14 | streuner | !tell resiak to fuck off |
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| 15:27.15 | g3brown | I have a Sarge 3.1 system. I want to upgrade the first sata drive from a 75gb to a 150gb. The first drive is what Debian is installed on. What easiest way? |
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| 15:27.55 | prem_ | cahoot, i removed snd-pcm-oss let me try, now i am trying to play a vcd, says alsa-play: write-error broken pipe |
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| 15:28.08 | C`Alex | Hello, how i can install imap? |
| 15:28.20 | myboxen | g3brown: I am not an expert, but the way I did it was by making images with dd |
| 15:28.24 | priscila | prem_: is alsa loaded correctly? |
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| 15:28.28 | snail | bipolar: thanks, that seems to do the job for me! |
| 15:28.44 | cahoot | prem_: I didn't imply to remove snd-pcm-oss - Ijust asked if you had some 'old' oss module loaded |
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| 15:29.00 | g3brown | myboxen: you made an image to new drive with first drive in place? |
| 15:29.07 | prem_ | priscila, how do i verify that? |
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| 15:29.28 | prem_ | cahoot, but the write error problem exists in either case |
| 15:29.29 | myboxen | g3brown: I put both drives in the box, booted to knoppix, and used dd |
| 15:29.46 | LordNazgul | g3brown. i would think that if you booted off of a livecd or something you could just copy everything from one to the other |
| 15:29.47 | fette | anyone who can configure debian network and want to help me?? privatr?? |
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| 15:30.04 | plbgnr | hello, how can I find out what runs on ports ? (instead of nmap) |
| 15:30.10 | prem_ | fette, /etc/networking/interfaces |
| 15:30.23 | cahoot | plbgnr: netstsat -tupan |
| 15:30.24 | prem_ | fette, man interfaces |
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| 15:30.35 | myboxen | g3brown: does that make sense |
| 15:30.35 | cahoot | plbgnr: err netstat -tupan |
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| 15:30.40 | priscila | prem_: there are many ways to verify it .. lsmod shows what modules are loaded (alsa modules must be showed), you can try to run alsamixer, if alsa modules isnt loaded, it returns an error .. |
| 15:30.48 | plbgnr | cahoot thanks |
| 15:31.03 | fette | i tried to edit /etc/networking/interfaces whith no luck.. also tried reading man iterfaces whithout getting smarter... |
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| 15:31.19 | lehel | hello |
| 15:31.23 | Ronin | fette: best state the problem |
| 15:31.32 | g3brown | myboxen: trying now |
| 15:31.45 | prem_ | priscila, all is fine, lsmod shows all the alsa modules ( starting with snd-), alsamixer doesn't return any error |
| 15:31.47 | lehel | however i installed the kernel-source-2.6.8, still i get the error: You do not appear to have the kernel sources for your current kernel installed.. |
| 15:31.47 | myboxen | don't forget to get the MBR |
| 15:31.59 | priscila | prem_: and you can see if has a directory like asond on /proc |
| 15:32.29 | fette | i had my server on a router with automatic ip(network was fine).. now i have it on a router without automatic ip.. |
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| 15:32.49 | prem_ | priscila, bingo ... now working !!! |
| 15:32.58 | priscila | prem_: did you have installed aplay from alsa package or you have compiled it? |
| 15:33.07 | priscila | prem_: what did you do? |
| 15:33.07 | g3brown | myboxen: I tried Ghost 8.2, but it didn't like the ext part. I'm having trouble as the drives are on a RAID controlller and I'm having trouble seeing them with live cds |
| 15:33.27 | prem_ | priscila, i don't know just trying again and again :) |
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| 15:33.40 | myboxen | ahhh |
| 15:33.47 | myboxen | raid makes a difference |
| 15:33.53 | myboxen | are they raid 5? |
| 15:33.56 | LordNazgul | g3brown i know ghost 2003 works on ext |
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| 15:35.02 | myboxen | g3brown: what raid controller? |
| 15:35.10 | youare | is there a tor package for sarge? |
| 15:35.27 | prem_ | priscila, i am still not able to play the vcd, i get alsa-play write error broken pipe |
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| 15:35.57 | fette | i had my server on a router with automatic ip(network was fine).. now i have it on a router without automatic ip.. i edited etc\network\interfaces but i think i did wrong. :( |
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| 15:36.43 | Ungy | fette you want to configure to a static IP? |
| 15:36.45 | sonorous | youare: you can get it from backports |
| 15:36.49 | prem_ | fette, come out of windows world its /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:37.37 | fette | shure... but that dosent help me with my problem |
| 15:37.43 | priscila | prem_: did aplay open this file format? |
| 15:37.45 | g3brown | myboxen: 3ware 9500 |
| 15:38.04 | priscila | prem_: try mplayer to open it |
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| 15:39.11 | prem_ | priscila, i am using mplayer from the beginning all the errors i reported is given by mplayer, i dont have aplay installed ( sorry i didn't see your previous question) |
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| 15:39.26 | myboxen | g3brown: hrmmm, and Knoppix has no driver for that? |
| 15:39.32 | fette | i had my server on a router with automatic ip(network was fine).. now i have it on a router without automatic ip.. i edited /etc/network/interfaces but i think i did wrong. :( someone who can take it private?? |
| 15:40.32 | priscila | prem_: did you can play files before? do you have been change anything or upgraded any package? |
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| 15:41.16 | g3brown | myboxen: Not sure. I wasn't sure how to get it mounted anyway. I'm not an expert and I have important stuff on the server so it's making me nervous. I want sometime to just clone the drive. |
| 15:41.37 | Ronin | fette: what happened when you edited /etc/network/interfaces? who did you edit it as? |
| 15:41.56 | prem_ | priscila, i have two mplayers (64-bit and 32-bit in chroot) i'll try the 32-bit one there is some permission problem(since /dev is bind to /chroot/dev), let me try |
| 15:42.13 | fette | ronin: i edited it as root.. nothing happend |
| 15:42.55 | youare | sonorous, thanks a million! |
| 15:42.58 | C`Alex | Hello, how i can install imap? |
| 15:43.07 | sonorous | youare: it worked? np :) |
| 15:43.35 | Ronin | nothing happened? you did save changes? restart networking? |
| 15:43.49 | youare | sonorous, yes, the tor package was found after I added backport.org to my sources.list |
| 15:43.54 | prem_ | priscila, okay now the 32-bit player is able to do it? why not 64-bit one? i'll try to upgrade :) |
| 15:44.07 | fette | ronin: i restarted te computer but the network stil didnt work |
| 15:44.12 | prem_ | priscila, thanks |
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| 15:46.17 | plbgnr | Is it possible in some way store all settings in debian? ...so I will have it on usb key and I am able to install everywhere the same system as original..??? |
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| 15:49.17 | fette | ronin: i restarted te computer but the network stil didnt work |
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| 15:49.34 | priscila | plbgnr: i think it's better configure debian to be installed as the same manner in all boxes |
| 15:49.42 | youare | one last question, I get "socket: Address family not supported by procotol" when trying to run a frame/packet sniffer. I'm thinking it has something to do with the af_packet module that's not inserted. but I can't find that module. In fact, /lib/modules/2.4.27/ doesn't exist at all (I inherited this machine). Is there a way all these kernel files could be reinstalled? Or is that even a solution for my sniffer problem? |
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| 15:50.11 | jalavivi | hola |
| 15:50.17 | jalavivi | hollllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 15:50.33 | jalavivi | que alguien me diga algoooo |
| 15:50.34 | Ronin | yes we see you jalavivi |
| 15:50.41 | Ronin | !es |
| 15:50.42 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:50.46 | jalavivi | hello |
| 15:51.01 | simonrvn | youare: no, means one of 2 things. one that the protocol is supported by the kernel, or it's requesting a port by name and your /etc/services is incomplete so it can't find the corresponding numbered port |
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| 15:51.41 | jalavivi | no se |
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| 15:52.33 | jalavivi | no english |
| 15:52.48 | jalavivi | help |
| 15:52.52 | jalavivi | helppppppppppp |
| 15:52.59 | jalavivi | please |
| 15:53.04 | Ronin | ok lets do both shall we |
| 15:53.05 | jayeola | in sarge what's the recommended latex package to install? `apt-cache search` brings up a long list of names, none of which are latex |
| 15:53.07 | Ronin | !br |
| 15:53.08 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 15:53.11 | youare | simonrvn, I tried both tcpdump -i eth0 and tethereal -i eth0 with the exact error message :( |
| 15:53.40 | simonrvn | youare: sorry, isn't supported by the kernel |
| 15:53.43 | jalavivi | pleaseeeee!! |
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| 15:54.02 | youare | simonrvn, what isn't supported by the kernel? |
| 15:54.09 | simonrvn | *sigh*. i hate that. they ask for help then they leave |
| 15:54.45 | simonrvn | youare: what's the kernel version? are you trying to do anything else other than that? |
| 15:54.46 | youare | I'm still here ;) |
| 15:54.59 | jengelh | omg stop begging |
| 15:55.07 | simonrvn | not you, silly :) |
| 15:55.17 | youare | simonrvn, just sniffing some pipe that's all. 2.4.27 |
| 15:56.00 | simonrvn | mitatahtomitanawaw kihci mitatahtomitanaw |
| 15:56.29 | youare | oh crap lsmod returns Opening /proc/modules: No such file or directory. |
| 15:56.49 | Xteven | is there an alternative to mailman ? |
| 15:56.55 | azeem | Xteven: enemies of calotta, e.g. |
| 15:56.55 | Xteven | preferably with php and mysql frontend |
| 15:57.00 | azeem | uhm, probably not |
| 15:57.31 | Xteven | why not ? |
| 15:57.37 | simonrvn | did you load af_packet? |
| 15:57.46 | simonrvn | oh, mount /proc |
| 15:57.51 | slept | i'd like to patch my kernel with suspend2, is there an (easy) way to get the config from linux-image-2.6..... and use it so that i dont have to do the whole configuration ? |
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| 15:58.04 | simonrvn | mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 15:58.36 | simonrvn | or just /proc |
| 15:58.41 | simonrvn | er, mount /proc |
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| 15:58.58 | unstable | slept: yes |
| 15:59.12 | unstable | slept: cp /boot/config*2.6* /usr/src/linux-source*/.config |
| 15:59.18 | LordNazgul | is there a command to dislplay which version you are running? ie sarge, etch or sid? |
| 15:59.20 | unstable | slept: Then ./apply to apply the patch. |
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| 15:59.27 | unstable | And then make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image |
| 15:59.35 | simonrvn | !version |
| 15:59.35 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
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| 15:59.46 | unstable | LordNazgul: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 15:59.49 | youare | simonrvn, that's the problem I can't find af_packet for my kernel version. How do I reinstalled the current version of my kernel? |
| 16:00.05 | slept | unstable, nice |
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| 16:00.25 | simonrvn | youare: did you mount /proc yet? |
| 16:00.55 | unstable | Why do so many people talk about /proc..I've been using debian for awhile now..and I've never had to even think about /proc |
| 16:01.07 | youare | simonrvn, /proc is already mounted. the file /proc/modules doesn't exist though |
| 16:01.09 | unstable | What is this mysterious /proc |
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| 16:01.47 | simonrvn | you sure? did you see a bunch of directories with numbers as names there? |
| 16:02.09 | simonrvn | s,did,do, |
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| 16:02.23 | simonrvn | !proc |
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| 16:02.30 | delire | anyone here come across a workaround for udev's annoying tendency to rename ethernet devices? every half-dozen boots my eth1 migrates to the previously non-existant eth2. |
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| 16:02.36 | unstable | simonrvn: already tried |
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| 16:03.37 | simonrvn | bah. /proc is where procfs gets mounted. it has info about the running kernel (not all of it, in 2.6 sysfs has more info there too, mounted at /sys), the currently up processes, and other info. |
| 16:03.54 | simonrvn | (the bah was for dpkg not having the factoid) |
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| 16:04.37 | unstable | !proc |
| 16:04.37 | dpkg | proc is, like, on Unix-like computer systems, procfs is short for process filesystem: a pseudo-filesystem which is used to access kernel information about processes. Because /proc is not a real file system, it does not consume any storage space, and it consumes only a limited amount of memory. The filesystem is often mounted at /proc. It is supported under Solaris, BSD and Linux, and the latter also extends it to non-process-related data. |
| 16:04.47 | simonrvn | o_O |
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| 16:05.24 | simonrvn | fucking bot *sigh* |
| 16:05.31 | unstable | simonrvn: I just added that. |
| 16:05.34 | delire | hehe |
| 16:05.40 | unstable | simonrvn: Why would someone want to go into /proc? |
| 16:05.47 | simonrvn | oh ok :). that's fine |
| 16:05.55 | unstable | !factinfo proc |
| 16:05.55 | dpkg | proc -- created by unstable <n=user_nam@unaffiliated/kerplunk> 1m 24s ago. |
| 16:06.33 | samuel | sup all, i get the typical "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" error but ive already added localhost to xhosts, even did xhosts + with no luck, what else could be wrong? im using "sudo firestarter" |
| 16:06.35 | unstable | I've heard of /proc many many times...and I understand what it does sort of. when I do "ps aux" that comes from /proc? |
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| 16:06.39 | simonrvn | unstable: for many reasons. go browse there a bit with mc or ls+cat, you'll see why. many tools do too (as well as /sys) |
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| 16:06.50 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 16:07.06 | unstable | So anyone displaying process information is from /proc? |
| 16:07.12 | unstable | like pid/memory usage etc etc |
| 16:07.13 | \amethyst | unstable: correct |
| 16:07.22 | unstable | ahh, so that's where all the information comes from |
| 16:07.30 | simonrvn | you see the numbered dirs? go catting the files in one of them |
| 16:07.32 | azeem | at least on Linux |
| 16:07.35 | unstable | thanks for the information, I appreciate it. |
| 16:07.47 | simonrvn | you'll see all sorts of info |
| 16:08.00 | simonrvn | !xhost |
| 16:08.01 | dpkg | xhost is probably EVIL! Ask me about mit-magic-cookie, or read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz before even thinking about using the "xhost" command. Ask me about "sshx", or "nolisten" if you're mule-headed, or "apt-cache show xbase-clients | grep xhost" will tell you "xhost, a very dangerous program that you should never use" You should use ssh X11 forwarding instead. use sux instead of su |
| 16:08.54 | grendal_prime | hey, i got another tech here...just about got him converted to a linux desktop...but we have a problem. he has limited desk space an is trying to use a kvm switch. When he switches back to his linux box..the mouse cursor literally freaks out. movement triggers opening all sorts of unexpected apps. Any ide how to reinitialize the mouse or just fix this problem outright? |
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| 16:09.30 | \amethyst | grendal_prime: you might have to use it with the generic 3-button mouse drivers |
| 16:09.37 | grendal_prime | by the way it didnt do it with the earlyer 2.6 kernels i believe... |
| 16:10.23 | grendal_prime | so config the xorg.conf to use...generic drivers? |
| 16:10.29 | grendal_prime | hmm |
| 16:10.47 | grendal_prime | i just figured it was doing that already |
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| 16:12.23 | \amethyst | grendal_prime: does switching to the console and back from X work? |
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| 16:12.33 | grendal_prime | naa we tried that.. |
| 16:12.40 | grendal_prime | use to..but not now |
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| 16:13.09 | grendal_prime | i can tell ya its a kingston expert mouse |
| 16:13.31 | grendal_prime | trackball...big fkr like the old misslecommand games |
| 16:13.33 | bronze | grendal_prime: I've seen this discussed in either the gnhlug or blu mail list, searching now,... |
| 16:13.41 | \amethyst | grendal_prime: you could try passing psmouse.strict psmouse.resetafter=3 to your kernel |
| 16:14.39 | grendal_prime | this guys is a windows convert if we have to do anything complicated at this point..hes going to have trouble. He is finally getting the hang of just using the desktop. |
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| 16:15.59 | grendal_prime | our network has just reached the point where its waaay to complicated to do anything with the windoes boxes.(on the admin side) but he still has to build the client machines based on that os. |
| 16:16.16 | bronze | grendal_prime: no joy, nothing useful found. (archives aren't google!) |
| 16:16.35 | grendal_prime | so being able to switch back and forth with a kvm is a must for him. |
| 16:17.13 | grendal_prime | thanks for the help bronze. i did find a couple of googled hits that mention it..but not fixing it..just that its a problem |
| 16:17.27 | bronze | grendal_prime: what kind of KVM is it? |
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| 16:17.50 | kblin | hi |
| 16:18.39 | kblin | does someone have Proc/PID/File.pm installed and can tell me in which deb that bugger lives? |
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| 16:19.44 | \amethyst | kblin: I'll give you two guesses |
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| 16:20.48 | kblin | \amethyst: [X] RTFM [X] You're annoying, get lost? [ ] I'll like to help you? ;) |
| 16:21.08 | kblin | \amethyst: oh, wait, that were three answers :) |
| 16:21.16 | \amethyst | kblin: :) it's in libproc-pid-file-perl |
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| 16:21.42 | \amethyst | kblin: libfoo-bar-perl is usually the first place to check |
| 16:21.43 | grendal_prime | hmm hold on bronze ill look...believe its a belkin |
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| 16:22.27 | kblin | \amethyst: does sarge have that? aptitude can't seem to find it |
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| 16:22.46 | kblin | \amethyst: which explains why aptitude search pid | grep perl didn't find it |
| 16:22.59 | \amethyst | kblin: I don't know... it's in unstable |
| 16:23.02 | Neverther | \o/ |
| 16:23.09 | bronze | grendal_prime: it is probably belkin. they are mentioned as being one of the ones with "issues. |
| 16:23.26 | grendal_prime | ya belkin...has the sound plugs and everything...it was kinda a bitch for him to set up if i remember right...i dont use them personally. i have my debian laptop and one monitor on my desk. I just put vnc on any of the machines im working one (windows wise) but that is just not possible for him |
| 16:23.30 | Neverther | i got belkin kvm |
| 16:23.59 | bronze | Neverther: any probs with it, mousewise? |
| 16:24.15 | Eulex | I'm having problems with chronyd (an ntp client) and timezones. it became daylight saving time some time ago, and I've tried twice to just date -s foo, but the ntp client just resets the time after some time. my timezone is set correctly, btw. |
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| 16:24.19 | grendal_prime | Neverther, ya. on the linux side that is. |
| 16:24.22 | \amethyst | kblin: hmm... its dependencies don't seem to be versioned, so you should be able to use the package from sid |
| 16:24.30 | Neverther | bronze, what's the broblem with the kvm? |
| 16:24.47 | grendal_prime | hey, i got another tech here...just about got him converted to a linux desktop...but we have a problem. he has limited desk space an is trying to use a kvm switch. When he switches back to his linux box..the mouse cursor literally freaks out. movement triggers opening all sorts of unexpected apps. Any ide how to reinitialize the mouse or just fix this problem outright? |
| 16:24.49 | \amethyst | Eulex: So what does time say when chronyd has reset it? |
| 16:25.04 | bronze | Neverther: see grendal_prime's post |
| 16:25.26 | Neverther | bronze, how much i need to upscroll? |
| 16:25.33 | \amethyst | Eulex: Including the zone |
| 16:25.41 | grendal_prime | its right there Neverther i just reposted it |
| 16:25.44 | bronze | 4 posts up |
| 16:25.50 | bronze | 5 |
| 16:25.55 | grendal_prime | 6 |
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| 16:25.59 | grendal_prime | hehehe 7 |
| 16:26.15 | kblin | \amethyst: ok, thanks, I'll go and have a look |
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| 16:26.48 | yggdrasil | how can i start something in my xsession while im sshd into my box |
| 16:26.57 | bronze | grendal_prime: someone mentione "iogear" as working OK. weird as thairs was an unpowered model. |
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| 16:27.23 | Neverther | grendal_prime, o i had the same problem, with 2.4 kernel there is no problem, but if you wan't to use 2.6 you need to compile mouse as module (and forced unloading), or use evdev for mouse (what i do), or use synergy to share mouse and kb to other comp |
| 16:27.39 | splattnik | is there any good program for mixing music in linux? |
| 16:27.52 | Neverther | splattnik, wired |
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| 16:28.39 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 16:28.45 | grendal_prime | what modual do you load? |
| 16:29.03 | cahoot | splattnik: I'd ask in #lad |
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| 16:29.05 | grendal_prime | evdev? |
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| 16:29.14 | Neverther | grendal_prime, rmmod -f psmouse ; modprobe psmouse |
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| 16:29.34 | splattnik | cahoot: lad? |
| 16:29.43 | Neverther | is the way to do with psmouse module, with evdev, you might not need to do anything |
| 16:29.44 | cahoot | splattnik: yes /j #lad |
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| 16:30.09 | bronze | Neverther: cool info. Karma++ |
| 16:30.15 | grendal_prime | Neverther, that just unloads the module and reloads it? |
| 16:30.30 | splattnik | cahoot: yes i know its a channel but i dont know what "lad" means. =) |
| 16:30.41 | Neverther | grendal_prime, yes, it fixes the mouse freaky movement |
| 16:30.44 | cahoot | splattnik: linux audio .. |
| 16:30.53 | splattnik | cahoot: aa.. thx |
| 16:31.21 | grendal_prime | just untell you kvm away and back though right..i mean that does not fix it for good will it? |
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| 16:31.57 | Neverther | grendal_prime, it worked when i used psmouse module, nowadays i use evdev |
| 16:32.16 | grendal_prime | i dont know what that is |
| 16:32.32 | Neverther | grendal_prime, evdev = eventdev |
| 16:32.46 | grendal_prime | is it just another driver of some sort you can specify in the xorg-config? |
| 16:32.53 | grendal_prime | ooooo |
| 16:32.56 | Neverther | it adds inputs to /dev/input/eventX |
| 16:33.16 | Neverther | grendal_prime, yes |
| 16:33.33 | grendal_prime | ok so basically when something happens with the mouse connection..it runs the command to reinitialize the mouse? |
| 16:33.33 | biloti | hi guys. Any clue why make xconfig for kernel 2.6.16 complains about libaudio (/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -laudio), if I have libaudio-dev installed? |
| 16:33.48 | Neverther | grendal_prime, driver "evde" and such (evdev kernel module needs to be loaded) |
| 16:33.59 | grendal_prime | ok |
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| 16:34.42 | Neverther | grendal_prime, i can give you my xorg.conf lines if you want? |
| 16:34.44 | grendal_prime | so if i load that modual, it should sense the mouse has been connected and ..do i need to config evdev specifilcally to look for that event..or is that just one of the things it looks for by default |
| 16:34.50 | grendal_prime | ya that would be great |
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| 16:35.08 | Neverther | grendal_prime, evdev needs more twisty config |
| 16:35.17 | unstable_ | !tetrinet |
| 16:35.18 | dpkg | from memory, tetrinet is probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
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| 16:35.20 | lzhang | how does debian know what to make eth0, eth1, etc? and also, how can I find out which interfaces exist |
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| 16:35.58 | Neverther | grendal_prime, "cat /prov/bus/input/devices" when you have loaded evdev module |
| 16:36.15 | samuel | any way to get sux to use sudoers? |
| 16:36.38 | kojk | izhang, modprobe |
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| 16:37.11 | grendal_prime | neverther, i wont be able to do anything with is his machine for a bit yet..he is still not here |
| 16:37.27 | Neverther | grendal_prime, hehe |
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| 16:37.56 | grendal_prime | i do appreciate the help though...ill look more into it...now that i have some options. |
| 16:38.15 | Neverther | grendal_prime, knoppix in, few mounts and playing; result new root password |
| 16:38.20 | madclicker | how can i vew the list of cron jobs on a system |
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| 16:38.55 | \amethyst | samuel: sudo gives you the same kind of problems as su? |
| 16:39.37 | samuel | \amethyst, nm... i just realized sux does not use sudo... |
| 16:39.54 | grendal_prime | Neverther, naaa...seriously...i work with the guy every day...he is a bit..."protective" of his stuff. But he stays out of my way so we get along fairly well |
| 16:40.03 | samuel | is there something similar to sux that uses the sudoers file? |
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| 16:40.15 | samuel | or has something like sudoers |
| 16:40.23 | \amethyst | samuel: I usually just do export XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority before running sudo |
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| 16:40.36 | slept | madclicker, ls /etc/cron.* |
| 16:40.40 | \amethyst | samuel: then root will be using the same credentials file as the user and everything's okay |
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| 16:41.39 | samuel | \amethyst, that does not work though... i have even tried xhosts +, to no luck |
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| 16:42.05 | jengelh | What's the differencet between the 'kernel-image' and 'linux-image' packages? |
| 16:42.20 | bbrazil | jengelh: the name (for now) |
| 16:42.23 | cahoot | jengelh: sarge vs etch and later |
| 16:42.27 | jengelh | hm |
| 16:42.28 | jengelh | !etch |
| 16:42.28 | dpkg | somebody said etch was the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 16:42.32 | \amethyst | jengelh: they changed the name from the former to the latter to be less provincial |
| 16:42.44 | jengelh | sweet, then i don't need to roll my own |
| 16:42.54 | mindbob | Hey guys, I setup samba on my linux box, to share a 200gb hdd with my windows laptop (kinda use it as a fileserver), set it all up, went onto windows, opened the share i can browse them fine, but when i try to save stuff to it it gives me this error: Cannot create or replace filename access denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is not currently in use <-- well its none of them, and i have writeable = yes |
| 16:42.54 | mindbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:42.55 | mindbob | ? |
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| 16:44.15 | \amethyst | mindbob: does the appropriate user have write access to the file and directory in question? |
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| 16:44.28 | slept | mindbob, do you use samba with login / samba users ? |
| 16:44.28 | sewi | how to hang on an irc channel even if my computer is switched off? |
| 16:44.42 | mindbob | ldrwxr-xr-x 2 dusty dusty 4096 2006-03-23 17:43 Laptop-Backup |
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| 16:44.48 | mindbob | thats the perms on the user |
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| 16:44.48 | zinx | sewi: run your client on a different computer. |
| 16:44.49 | \amethyst | sewi: log in to a machine that doesn't get switched off and run IRC from there |
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| 16:45.11 | mindbob | \amethyst, the windows laptop has user dusty too |
| 16:45.13 | \amethyst | sewi: you can use screen to detach and reattach it |
| 16:45.27 | luipeme | hello, good afternoon |
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| 16:46.12 | luipeme | I want to delete from one file the same line that there are in other file,I know that I can use diff, do you know a manual or an example? |
| 16:46.13 | sewi | \amethyst: thanks! I need to find a free shell then |
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| 16:47.25 | bipolar | does anyone have a suguested windows driver for printing to a cups-pdf printer via samba? All I know is it needs to be a postscript printer. |
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| 16:48.17 | cahoot | bipolar: if w2k or xp and later you don't really need samba for printing |
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| 16:48.42 | bipolar | cahoot: it's all set up already to automaticly install printer drivers and such. |
| 16:49.02 | bipolar | cahoot: I just need to know what driver to automaticly install on the windows client to get this to work. |
| 16:49.23 | grendal_prime | he Neverther i was just running lsmod and evdev is running on my machine already |
| 16:49.25 | slept | luipeme, diff file1 file2| grep \> >newfile |
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| 16:49.42 | \amethyst | bipolar: isn't there a generic postscript printer driver? |
| 16:49.49 | cahoot | bipolar: maybe this can be of use: http://www.linuxprinting.org/till/printing-tutorial/tut.html#1_3_1 |
| 16:49.53 | bipolar | \amethyst: not that I can see.... |
| 16:49.55 | grendal_prime | so if the case is the same with him he just needs to reconfig his xorg-conf correct? |
| 16:50.02 | mindbob | slept, what do you mean? |
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| 16:50.12 | \amethyst | bipolar: perhaps the correct driver for the printer, then? |
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| 16:50.26 | bipolar | \amethyst: it's cups-pdf. |
| 16:50.36 | \amethyst | bipolar: ah... |
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| 16:51.07 | slept | mindbob, "I want to delete from one file the same line that there are in other file,I know that I can use diff, do you know a manual or an example?" |
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| 16:51.26 | mindbob | slept, what?! |
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| 16:51.42 | cahoot | bipolar: according to the url above: Microsoft: ps5ui.dll pscript.hlp pscript.ntf pscript5.dll |
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| 16:52.03 | kojk | Can debian be configured in such a way to be part of a windows domain? |
| 16:52.11 | epictetus | yes |
| 16:52.17 | epictetus | in a number of different ways |
| 16:52.27 | kojk | Which programs are needed |
| 16:52.27 | \amethyst | slept: you mean luipeme |
| 16:52.32 | epictetus | not quite the samea s you'd think of a windows system just joining it |
| 16:52.34 | slept | mindbob, thats the example he was asking for ... |
| 16:52.40 | \amethyst | ah |
| 16:53.01 | bipolar | cahoot: thanks. |
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| 16:53.44 | epictetus | There is samba (allows you to share files and connect to a domain for authentication of those shared files) and there is PAM or winbind(allows you to basically use a windows domain controller as an LDAP authentication server so windows domain accounts are also accounts on the debian machine) |
| 16:53.59 | epictetus | what do you want to do exactly? |
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| 16:54.33 | slept | mindbob, now i get it , if you add a user for samba with smbpasswd -a username for an existing user you'll have same permissions when you use samba |
| 16:54.37 | epictetus | then there are a number of different methods for mapping windows users to unix users, windows groups to unix groups, windows permissions to unix permissions |
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| 16:55.10 | epictetus | within the framework of samba, winbind, pam, ldap, etc |
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| 16:56.43 | Thanatermesis | any person remembers the famous tar command similar to: (tar -cp * | tar -xp -C / - ) ? |
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| 16:56.57 | jengelh | Thanatermesis : superseded by rsync |
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| 16:57.31 | Serial | :o |
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| 16:58.27 | Thanatermesis | what jengelh ? |
| 16:58.47 | jengelh | Thanatermesis : That ol' tar command is now redundant. It can be done by rsync now. |
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| 16:59.04 | edson | Helo ! |
| 16:59.05 | OliverKlozoff | 250 OliverKlozoff |
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| 16:59.19 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 16:59.31 | Thanatermesis | in locally ? any example or link jengelh ? |
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| 16:59.54 | jengelh | rsync ./ / -- although that will probably kill your system, just as the tar command. |
| 17:00.02 | fluxdude | what is wrong with my debian? see http://pastebin.com/640268, I can't apt-get install, I can't apt-get update. help? |
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| 17:00.42 | jengelh | of course depends on what you copy |
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| 17:01.07 | |ryan| | yo, how do i turn off screen blanking on a console? |
| 17:01.17 | allgo | fluxdude, There are too many connections from your internet address. |
| 17:01.19 | abrotman | fluxdude: your intarweb is broked |
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| 17:01.28 | Neverther | grendal_prime, hehe, look into /proc/bus/input/devices |
| 17:01.40 | jengelh | |ryan| : echo -en "\e[9;0]" >/dev/tty0 |
| 17:01.44 | fluxdude | |ryan|: setterm -blank 0 |
| 17:01.49 | abrotman | fluxdude: try using http instead of ftp .. so http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |
| 17:01.56 | |ryan| | setterm, that's what i was looking for. |
| 17:01.58 | |ryan| | thanks |
| 17:02.04 | jengelh | |ryan| : echo is for /dev/tty consoles only |
| 17:02.08 | fluxdude | abrotman: what is intarweb? |
| 17:02.18 | abrotman | fluxdude: use an http source |
| 17:02.45 | fluxdude | abrotman: oh, intarweb... |
| 17:02.55 | grendal_prime | N: Name="Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse" |
| 17:02.59 | grendal_prime | now thats on my machine though |
| 17:03.22 | grendal_prime | you know im looking at alot of pages now that basically tell me that ...well in short, Belkin sucks ass on this |
| 17:03.31 | grendal_prime | it appears to be a belkin problem |
| 17:03.34 | fluxdude | abrotman>: my inet ain't broke, I'm using it right now to connect to home for several hours and it's never snagged... |
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| 17:04.00 | abrotman | fluxdude: i know .. i corrected myself .. use an HTTP source |
| 17:04.03 | abrotman | !tell Serial about away |
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| 17:04.58 | Thanatermesis | jengelh im trying to copy a entire system correctly, tar its good, but cp don't is perfect (for example symlinks, and i can't posible to use find... do you think to for this, rsync system/* newsystem is good ? |
| 17:05.06 | polopolo | Should all file's on dvd 1 downloaded on the network version? |
| 17:05.20 | jengelh | rsync can do symlinks and acls. tar does not do acls. |
| 17:05.21 | abrotman | polopolo: for what? to install ? |
| 17:05.32 | abrotman | tar can preserve permissions |
| 17:05.47 | abrotman | you could use a horrible ugly combo of tar+netcat :) |
| 17:05.54 | jengelh | rsync --exclude=/mnt /mnt/oldsystem // (where / is the newsystem) |
| 17:05.58 | polopolo | All file's on the first dvd of debian stable |
| 17:06.17 | jengelh | hm actually no need for exclude |
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| 17:06.36 | pipeline | abrotman: NO |
| 17:06.43 | pipeline | abrotman: tar + ssh replaces netcat handily |
| 17:06.53 | abrotman | pipeline: it does .. i just said he could use it |
| 17:06.54 | jengelh | rsync has ssh "built-in" |
| 17:07.01 | pipeline | jengelh: No, it just calls out to ssh. |
| 17:07.08 | jengelh | that's why i put it in quotes |
| 17:07.11 | pipeline | jengelh: It uses ssh the same way it would use rsh or anything else :P |
| 17:07.12 | abrotman | pipeline: depends on security concerns |
| 17:07.22 | pipeline | abrotman: netcat is pretty primitive :P |
| 17:07.28 | abrotman | duh :) |
| 17:07.28 | pipeline | abrotman: ssh at least makes some guarantees about data integrity |
| 17:08.07 | abrotman | data integrity is for wussies! .. use a hex editor to fill in the blanks! |
| 17:08.14 | Eulex | udp + wlan = b0rk |
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| 17:08.30 | jengelh | Well. |
| 17:08.43 | jengelh | Apparently, (wlan) VPN clients _are_ UDP - based. |
| 17:08.45 | azeem | pipeline: are you Kevin Mark? |
| 17:08.51 | jengelh | like openvpn and ciscovpn |
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| 17:10.08 | Thanatermesis | hum.. let me try to use rsync then... (locally system copy, no network send) |
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| 17:10.40 | jengelh | there's a "slash issue" in rsync, you got to watch out for |
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| 17:12.02 | vin` | azeem: that would be kevix iirc |
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| 17:12.18 | azeem | ah, hrm |
| 17:12.27 | jasonUO | how do I find out what packages I have on hold with apt? |
| 17:12.27 | jasonUO | Trying to troubleshoot the "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." message. |
| 17:12.31 | seb- | is udev needed to setup networking? |
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| 17:12.49 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 17:12.59 | abrotman | !beer debhelper |
| 17:13.32 | LordNazgul | jason try using aptitude. you can hit b to find which packages are broken. and see why |
| 17:13.49 | LordNazgul | it will also mark packages on hold with an h on the left side |
| 17:14.01 | slept | seb-, no |
| 17:14.20 | Eclipser | etch irssi dumps core on quit :p |
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| 17:14.52 | Eclipser | glibc detects that free is used on invalid pointer |
| 17:14.53 | vin` | Eclipser: yes, there's a bug filed as well. |
| 17:14.54 | abrotman | jasonUO: apt-get -f install |
| 17:14.56 | jasonUO | LordNazgul: hmm - I tried that - nothing happens when I hit b (from within aptitude) :-/ |
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| 17:15.03 | Eclipser | vin`, okies :p |
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| 17:15.34 | LordNazgul | jason apt-get -f install should do the trickthen as abrotman said |
| 17:15.42 | jasonUO | abrotman: -f didn't change the error message |
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| 17:15.56 | pm_ | any one knows how can i set options in the smb.conf to subfolders? |
| 17:15.56 | abrotman | jasonUO: perhaps you shuld paste the error somewhere |
| 17:15.58 | abrotman | !paste |
| 17:15.58 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 17:16.37 | slept | pm_, file permissions should do it |
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| 17:17.59 | pm_ | slept but i set those file permissions in samba or in the directory? |
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| 17:18.19 | jasonUO | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2291 |
| 17:18.19 | pm_ | slept i want that every file created inside the dir DIR1 be from the group GRP1 |
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| 17:18.48 | abrotman | jasonUO: no .. paste just `apt-get -f install` |
| 17:19.08 | abrotman | jasonUO: also paste your sources from /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:19.40 | slept | pm_, the directory , ok for that you can use smb.conf force group = ... |
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| 17:20.25 | jasonUO | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2292 |
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| 17:20.49 | kojk | samba |
| 17:21.35 | jasonUO | abrotman: I remember putting something on hold or installing a package manually (specifically perl, because there was a dependency issue with mysql 4) several months ago, so I think maybe this has something to do with it |
| 17:21.58 | abrotman | jasonUO: hrm .. apt-cache policy g++-3.3 |
| 17:22.04 | pm_ | slept yes, but the problem is that the dir1 is a sub dir that is inside dir0 and in the samba i have [DIR0] and its options, can i set options to a subfolder? |
| 17:22.35 | kojk | When i launch a full screen app in Wine the taskbars of gnome show up |
| 17:22.44 | kojk | and its so annoying, how can I get rid of these? |
| 17:22.45 | jasonUO | abrotman: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1:3.3.5-13 |
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| 17:22.49 | abrotman | see if the toolbar has an option for "always on top" |
| 17:22.52 | kojk | hiding them causes the program to crash |
| 17:23.01 | abrotman | jasonUO: and if you type `apt-get install gcc-3.3` ? |
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| 17:23.19 | kojk | Im interesting in coding and helping the Debian Team, where should I start? |
| 17:23.31 | netcrash | How can place the iptables rules in debian start ? |
| 17:23.37 | abrotman | kojk: what kindo of coding can you do? |
| 17:23.45 | abrotman | netcrash: read /usr/share/doc/iptables/* |
| 17:23.45 | jasonUO | abrotman: says "gcc-3.3 is already the newest version." |
| 17:23.49 | netcrash | thank you |
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| 17:23.54 | slept | pm_, i think you cant do that, but you can create an other share with other permissions, and you can set the directory mode |
| 17:23.58 | kojk | Im mainly basic and windows based |
| 17:24.04 | jengelh | apt-get install gcc-4.0 ? :) |
| 17:24.10 | kojk | but I would sure love to move onto linux coding |
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| 17:24.13 | kojk | where should I start |
| 17:24.15 | abrotman | jasonUO: apt-get install g++-3.3 ? |
| 17:24.46 | abrotman | kojk: you can browse the bugs at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ .. and help patch them ... |
| 17:24.50 | netcrash | thank you abrotman ... |
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| 17:25.00 | jasonUO | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2293 |
| 17:25.03 | kojk | cool, thanks abrotman |
| 17:25.30 | kojk | Did you hear about Windows Virtual Server 2003 with the nix plugins? |
| 17:25.39 | pm_ | i dont want to create another share, do you know the way to set options to a subfolder? like [DIR0/DIR1]? |
| 17:25.56 | abrotman | jasonUO: have you done any apt-get update recently ? |
| 17:26.06 | abrotman | pm_: ask #samba ? |
| 17:26.13 | pm_ | i did it =/ |
| 17:26.18 | jasonUO | abrotman: yeah, croned to update nightly |
| 17:26.29 | abrotman | jasonUO: try again .. |
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| 17:27.25 | jasonUO | abrotman: no luck there |
| 17:27.58 | abrotman | jasonUO: apt-cache policy gcc-3.3 and apt-cache policy g++-3.3 .. paste them both |
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| 17:28.53 | jasonUO | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2294 |
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| 17:29.32 | abrotman | !info gcc-3.3 sarge |
| 17:29.35 | dpkg | gcc-3.3: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 1:3.3.5-13 (sarge), Packaged size: 1533 kB, Installed size: 4136 kB |
| 17:29.40 | abrotman | !info g++-3.3 sarge |
| 17:29.42 | dpkg | g++-3.3: (The GNU C++ compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 1:3.3.5-13 (sarge), Packaged size: 1737 kB, Installed size: 3792 kB |
| 17:29.47 | abrotman | !info g++-3.3 etch |
| 17:29.51 | dpkg | g++-3.3: (The GNU C++ compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:3.3.6-13 (etch), Packaged size: 1730 kB, Installed size: 3764 kB |
| 17:30.01 | abrotman | jasonUO: have you been mixing stable/testing ? |
| 17:30.11 | jasonUO | abrotman: weird - what's etch? |
| 17:30.17 | slept | pm_, look for acl that might help but i never tried |
| 17:30.31 | abrotman | jasonUO: etch is testing .. somehow you've gotten the gcc from etch |
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| 17:30.42 | abrotman | debhelper: kill! |
| 17:30.53 | darkness_ | Anyone got a good tut on using the cmd "file"? |
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| 17:31.03 | abrotman | DarKnesS_: man file ? |
| 17:31.05 | jengelh | what tut do you need |
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| 17:31.20 | abrotman | info file ? |
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| 17:32.27 | unstable_ | !file |
| 17:32.39 | jasonUO | abrotman: ok - interesting - well, I must have done that to myself at some point - isn't there a way that I can see what packages are dependant on this g++ package? |
| 17:32.46 | darkness_ | I want to look for any suspicious files on my box. |
| 17:33.19 | abrotman | jasonUO: maybe apt-cache rdepends <pkg> .. |
| 17:33.33 | jasonUO | abrotman: yeah thanks - hehe just got it |
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| 17:33.50 | unstable_ | darkness_: install clamav |
| 17:33.52 | abrotman | jasonUO: for future reference .. mixing versions of debian causes tons of problems |
| 17:33.53 | unstable_ | !tell darkness_ about clamav |
| 17:34.31 | epictetus | also ckrootkit |
| 17:34.39 | epictetus | it useful for seeing if you have been compromised |
| 17:34.50 | simonrvn | chk |
| 17:35.03 | jasonUO | abrotman: thanks for your help - I'm trying to decide if I'm better off moving to testing at this point or try to back-rev to stable... (this is actually a production server, but pretty low traffic) |
| 17:35.10 | darkness_ | Tks guys, think i'm a real paranoid sysadmin :-P |
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| 17:35.16 | epictetus | yeah chkrootkit |
| 17:35.21 | unstable_ | !chkrootkit |
| 17:35.21 | dpkg | i heard chkrootkit is Check Rootkit a common unix-based program intended to help system administrators check their system for known rootkits. It is a shell script using common UNIX/Linux tools like the strings and grep commands to search core system programs for signatures and for comparing a traversal of the /proc filesystem with the output of the ps (process status) command to look for discrepancies. |
| 17:35.31 | tralala | anyone experienced in compiling? http://channels.debian.net/paste/2295 |
| 17:35.44 | abrotman | jasonUO: if you decide to go to testing ... /msg dpkg testing security .. but it's not as "quick" as stable's security |
| 17:36.00 | abrotman | tralala: ask #ati ? |
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| 17:36.15 | pipeline | azeem: No. |
| 17:36.22 | pipeline | azeem: I don't even know who that is. :X |
| 17:36.23 | tralala | abrotman: this is not an ati problem for sure |
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| 17:36.32 | abrotman | tralala: aren't you compiling an ATI driver? |
| 17:36.38 | unstable_ | tralala: What kernel version are you using? |
| 17:36.57 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 17:36.57 | dpkg | it has been said that popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 17:36.59 | azeem | pipeline: he uses @pipeline.com as email address and is also on Debian lists, so I wondered. Nevermind. |
| 17:37.00 | tralala | abrotman: I am, but it's unrelated |
| 17:37.04 | abrotman | pipeline: i think that's kevix |
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| 17:37.14 | tarzeau | !seen GNU_Style |
| 17:37.14 | dpkg | gnu_style <n=GNU_Styl@124.6.175.24> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 3h 58m 39s ago, saying: ' wat does ./ mean? and ~ mean? (if you have any Idea pls say my nick)'. |
| 17:37.20 | abrotman | tralala: so you're compiling a piece of software not in debian .. and it doesn't work .. |
| 17:37.28 | tralala | unstable_: Linux debian64 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 #1 Mon Oct 3 00:29:51 CEST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:37.50 | unstable_ | tralala: o, good luck with that. |
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| 17:37.54 | tralala | abrotman: I am compiling a debian source package and it doesn't work because of gcc |
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| 17:38.06 | tarzeau | tralala: which gcc! which src pkg? |
| 17:38.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: honey don't get so mad, it's not good for your heart. |
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| 17:39.00 | tralala | tarzeau: 3.4.4, fglrx-driver_8.23.7.orig.tar.gz |
| 17:39.01 | slept | what happend to emdebian.org ? |
| 17:39.07 | tarzeau | tralala: works for me. #ati |
| 17:39.27 | tarzeau | tralala: www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ |
| 17:39.27 | abrotman | tralala: i'm not sure it even compiles with gcc3 |
| 17:39.31 | tarzeau | tralala: not the todo file, the other |
| 17:39.51 | abrotman | tralala: hence .. go ask #ati if the driver will compile with gcc3 |
| 17:39.56 | tarzeau | abrotman: it did for me |
| 17:40.04 | abrotman | tarzeau: shut yer trap! |
| 17:40.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: the url i pasted has the steps to do |
| 17:40.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: wtf did i do to you? |
| 17:40.17 | abrotman | tralala: also check the BTS for something related |
| 17:40.20 | abrotman | tarzeau: nothing :) |
| 17:40.21 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've packaged briquolo, go play it at least |
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| 17:40.28 | abrotman | tarzeau: is it in etch yet? |
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| 17:40.36 | tarzeau | abrotman: hahaha |
| 17:40.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: you have to admit .. it's a pretty fun game |
| 17:40.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: yeah, and it's not very easy either. |
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| 17:41.09 | power1 | hey all, could someone help me with an issue at a client, I have put down a postfix box and the windows clients are connecting with imap & outlook express, I have told outlook to put sent items in the "Sent" folder on the imap connection , but it just gives an error and sends directory does not exist....any ideas? |
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| 17:41.37 | marcel__ | hello |
| 17:41.45 | unstable_ | !greet marcel__ |
| 17:41.46 | dpkg | Gr33tz, marcel__ |
| 17:41.50 | marcel__ | i have a question about ksh scripts and getopts |
| 17:41.51 | tnks | Hi. I was curious about XComposite, which seems to be built-in and initialized (accoring to my Xorg.0.log, but xdpyinfo isn't showing me that Composite is there. Can someone explain the discrepancy? |
| 17:41.57 | tralala | abrotman, tarzeau: the thing is that the linking fails while it shouldn't (as far as I know) |
| 17:42.17 | unstable_ | !tell marcel__ about ask |
| 17:42.22 | lepton | power1: what imap daemon? |
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| 17:42.34 | power1 | lepton, courier-imap |
| 17:42.35 | tarzeau | tralala: can you post an url to the full log? |
| 17:42.36 | marcel__ | is it possible to give getopts $USAGE string, for NAME, DESCRIPTION, etc |
| 17:42.44 | abrotman | tralala: did you check the BTS? |
| 17:42.44 | marcel__ | like a man page |
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| 17:43.10 | abrotman | power1: did you ask #courier? |
| 17:43.17 | marcel__ | does my question make sense? |
| 17:43.20 | unstable_ | !tell tnks about xgl-howto |
| 17:43.31 | lepton | power1: saving to "Sent" never worked for me with courier imap (OS X Mail.app and Thunderbird). It started working when I switched to dovecot |
| 17:43.38 | power1 | abrotman, no, u think its a courier issue? |
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| 17:43.58 | yggdrasil | how can i start something in my xsession while im sshd into my box |
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| 17:44.01 | marcel__ | anyone know of korn shell scripts? |
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| 17:44.13 | tarzeau | marcel__: ugh |
| 17:44.17 | tarzeau | marcel__: just ask |
| 17:44.22 | abrotman | power1: i think it's an OutlookExpress issue .. but #courier may know the solution .. it has somehting to do with the way they address boxes IIRC |
| 17:44.23 | lehel | hey.. how do i specfic wit apt-get install to install just one package..? |
| 17:44.27 | marcel__ | tarzeau, when using getopts |
| 17:44.30 | tnks | unstable_: thanks. Looking into it now. |
| 17:44.34 | unstable_ | korn is non-free it sucks |
| 17:44.38 | rociopunta | ola |
| 17:44.50 | power1 | abrotman, lepton thanks |
| 17:44.59 | abrotman | !es |
| 17:44.59 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:45.01 | marcel__ | tarzeau, can i create a man page with that $USAGE variable |
| 17:45.01 | pedro | ola |
| 17:45.03 | tralala | tarzeau: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2296 |
| 17:45.06 | pedro | cjvoifjvhij |
| 17:45.07 | pedro | ojpvgokjnm |
| 17:45.19 | power1 | lepton, i hope i dont have to switch..to dovecot, as courier is all i know... |
| 17:45.23 | pedro | ola rocio |
| 17:45.25 | abrotman | !ops everyone at @143.Red-80-38-124.staticIP.rima-tde.net .. debhelper already killed once for join flooding |
| 17:45.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: everyone at @143.Red-80-38-124.staticIP.rima-tde.net .. debhelper already killed once for join flooding |
| 17:45.28 | rociopunta | ola tontooooooooo |
| 17:45.43 | yggdrasil | ola maricon |
| 17:45.57 | marcel__ | tarzeau, does my question ring a bell? |
| 17:45.57 | simonrvn | here we go with the tards again |
| 17:45.58 | lepton | power1: it was an easy install, very easy with debian (apt-get ...) |
| 17:46.03 | tarzeau | marcel__: no |
| 17:46.08 | jayeola | any one uses latex here? |
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| 17:46.11 | tarzeau | marcel__: just write the manual page? |
| 17:46.11 | marcel__ | tarzeau, ok, thanks anyway |
| 17:46.13 | tarzeau | jayeola: sure |
| 17:46.17 | rociopunta | ola |
| 17:46.32 | abrotman | !afo |
| 17:46.32 | dpkg | abrotman for ops! |
| 17:46.33 | pedro | tu madre |
| 17:46.35 | abrotman | damn it! |
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| 17:46.44 | jayeola | good! apt-cache search latex, lists loads of names. which one is latex? |
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| 17:46.47 | tarzeau | !ops pedro is an idiot |
| 17:46.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: pedro is an idiot |
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| 17:46.52 | simonrvn | oh no, i'm so insulted, i'm going to cry. |
| 17:46.55 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 17:46.55 | lepton | jayeola: I used it to write my thesis about 15 years ago |
| 17:46.56 | simonrvn | *snore* |
| 17:47.00 | rociopunta | killo dile a tu pimo k se enrrolle yaaaaaaa nooo |
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| 17:47.05 | power1 | lepton, hmmmm ive got everything working, amavis, squirrelmail, spamassasin, clam......im scared it will impact the running box. |
| 17:47.07 | simonrvn | crap |
| 17:47.09 | Ronin | abrotman: troling idiot to be precise :) as are the rest of them |
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| 17:47.15 | simonrvn | thank you for the d-line |
| 17:47.19 | epictetus | tetex-bin |
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| 17:47.22 | abrotman | how about the whole IP ? |
| 17:47.26 | abrotman | uh oh |
| 17:47.28 | pedro | pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp |
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| 17:47.37 | pedro | ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp |
| 17:47.37 | zinx | it's sunday again in #debian :( |
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| 17:47.41 | Eulex | gotta kill 'em all |
| 17:47.43 | zinx | !ops pedro |
| 17:47.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: pedro |
| 17:47.44 | tarzeau | zinx: nah, it's just one idiot |
| 17:47.45 | rociopunta | gwe hisdnf iu3ehlsndfsab?fS |
| 17:47.46 | rociopunta | FNZJFBKSJDFNB0DOPHNFŃA9F |
| 17:47.48 | rociopunta | SNKDFG9SDOFLGUHASNBFUSLV |
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| 17:47.53 | tarzeau | zinx: ok, two |
| 17:47.53 | rociopunta | HNSDCUISAYHLF BBIUGHIUDFNHDBDC |
| 17:47.56 | rociopunta | SGXHXDVYSJNEJKSDJLG |
| 17:47.56 | simonrvn | K, not D |
| 17:47.58 | tarzeau | rociopunta: FUCK OFF |
| 17:47.58 | rociopunta | SHXJKAUSDHNAOPD, AVF |
| 17:48.00 | rociopunta | HDUD BAUDMNPfjhfvg |
| 17:48.04 | rociopunta | jnaqhdbsuydnbsuisnais,apńlrfjkgh |
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| 17:48.07 | rociopunta | mnduanaidhduwjkduamdudfmjf |
| 17:48.08 | abrotman | yay .. no staff on /stats p |
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| 17:48.14 | tarzeau | abrotman: see it sucks |
| 17:48.14 | lepton | power1: it would be something to test after hours, then. debian keeps the config files, so getting back to where you started is easy |
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| 17:48.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: i wish greycat was here |
| 17:48.19 | pedro | -.xdlkjgbfjhildvleemrn4uyhhfmmfjjrmmrlotoo599577588rt5kjlńcfblfmmnmnmmmmmmmmmmmmmmbgkkkgfllfgllgtkkkggdoowtterrehhdhhfbhbbbbiifkkgoogpppg,,,ggllg,,bpppg,,,pbvpp,g,g vńvppbvlfń,g,gvfbvl.,vb,vńljohlkdfmhfgmngflknc.gniuhńkhń.,hńdrokihpodriugiorh tksejhgvkdddddddddjfeghońeisrtlweńrjtgselmrgfs.e,mg,.cvmbn lbjofiubodfjhmdlrjgodrgmn.rgjo4jgosrngorjgorjglerjgirhtosejyńaerjgpe9r8t94 e8y6734ihtseklrjgier96y8e4uih5y6io45uy8oerhglk |
| 17:48.19 | pedro | drfnbk,fvgnbk nf knbkvjg |
| 17:48.19 | zinx | abrotman: that's pretty excellent |
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| 17:48.37 | simonrvn | yay |
| 17:48.40 | jayeola | uh, tarzeau there are loads of latex related packages but none of them are called simply "latex" |
| 17:48.43 | abrotman | that's only part of it |
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| 17:48.52 | Eulex | !beer azeem |
| 17:48.53 | abrotman | see |
| 17:48.59 | tarzeau | jayeola: yeah but you want tetex |
| 17:49.01 | zinx | azeem: /mode * +b [XP-*]!*@* |
| 17:49.04 | simonrvn | still have [XP-* to get rid of |
| 17:49.10 | zinx | azeem: /mode * +b *!*@85.103.86.201 |
| 17:49.13 | jayeola | tarzeau: will apt-get |
| 17:49.14 | lepton | jayeola: I think you want tetex-bin |
| 17:49.22 | tarzeau | jayeola: tetex-base |
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| 17:49.47 | apacker | I am having trouble configuring my routing table for a public and private network using two separate network cards. Does anyone have a configuration remotely close to this I could look at? |
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| 17:50.02 | abrotman | that won't work |
| 17:50.02 | power1 | lepton, it is after hours my time,,, but nothing scares me like imagining the users coming in, in the morning with a broken mail server.... |
| 17:50.03 | simonrvn | there's still the [XP-] freaks |
| 17:50.10 | zinx | maybe we should redirect them to #freenode-social |
| 17:50.13 | apacker | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/312 has been helpful but it is not workin - I cannot set a static route on the private card to its gateway, 192.168.0.1 |
| 17:50.13 | zinx | that would be fun |
| 17:50.13 | tralala | abrotman: nothing in the bts |
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| 17:50.19 | abrotman | tralala: did you ask #ati yet? |
| 17:50.25 | simonrvn | would get their fucking attention |
| 17:50.31 | yperite | epictetus, look www.zeppoo.net |
| 17:50.33 | abrotman | simonrvn: we got HedgeMage .. does that count? :) |
| 17:50.42 | lepton | power1: the config is all under /etc; back it up if you're worried. /etc is (probably) not too big |
| 17:50.42 | simonrvn | yay |
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| 17:51.09 | tralala | abrotman: just to get the answer ask #debian? I don't think so. |
| 17:51.10 | abrotman | HedgeMage: see all the [XP-* ? |
| 17:51.13 | zinx | HedgeMage: join/message flooders/cloners :/ |
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| 17:51.18 | abrotman | HedgeMage: on top of rima! |
| 17:51.21 | simonrvn | beacuse we need a k-line for [XP-*] |
| 17:51.27 | simonrvn | because* |
| 17:51.29 | power1 | lepton, ok, will do...thnks... |
| 17:51.32 | apacker | hm, maybe someone can answer this: Does anyone know how to set a NON-default route via 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.x addresses only? |
| 17:51.32 | jasonUO | is there a way to back-rev all packages to stable? (or at least see what apt says has to be done to do that?) |
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| 17:51.42 | lepton | power1: /etc/courier to be precise |
| 17:51.46 | apacker | I should be "route add -net 192.168.0.0 gw 192.168.0.1" right? |
| 17:51.53 | paradiseLost | is there a site for downloading soundcard drivers for linux? |
| 17:51.54 | abrotman | most likely |
| 17:52.40 | apacker | cmon network gurus come out of the woodwork and display your mad on-the-fly netmask calculating skizzles! ;) |
| 17:52.42 | cahoot | paradiseLost: alsa is in kernel-2.6.* |
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| 17:53.04 | doub_ | apacker: you might need to put a netmask to the -net argument |
| 17:53.48 | apacker | doub_, route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.1 |
| 17:53.49 | doub_ | apacker: like 192.168.0.0/24 for the last byte as the host part |
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| 17:54.14 | simonrvn | here we go |
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| 17:54.16 | doub_ | apacker: might work that way too, but i only use the CIDR notation |
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| 17:54.21 | simonrvn | HedgeMage: ^^^ |
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| 17:54.37 | HedgeMage | okay, that's excessive. |
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| 17:54.46 | apacker | doub_, that is in my /etc/network/interfaces but yet I cannot ping 192.168.0.x (where x=1 or other known addresses on the network) |
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| 17:55.14 | apacker | doub_, ok, so you suggest instead "route add -net 192.168.0.0/24 gw 192.168.0.1" ? |
| 17:55.17 | simonrvn | too thin |
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| 17:55.26 | HedgeMage | looks like the rest are dlined... but I'll give it a few minutes |
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| 17:55.54 | doub_ | apacker: yes. but that's just the same as what you proposed |
| 17:56.00 | simonrvn | there's four more s,four,3, |
| 17:56.02 | illsci | how do you disable ipv6? i added to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases net-pf-10 ipv6 off but it still loads ipv6 |
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| 17:56.21 | Eulex | still a few XP freaks here |
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| 17:56.31 | apacker | doub_, I thought so as well. man route suggests I need to have the static route to the gateway set up first. But how do I do that?? it cannot route via itself to... itself?!? |
| 17:56.32 | doub_ | apacker: what does your 'route' output looks like ? (don't paste here, see topic) |
| 17:56.36 | Eulex | and a 2k freak |
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| 17:56.48 | simonrvn | yeh, new one |
| 17:56.50 | illsci | XP is the greatest operating system ever written |
| 17:56.53 | illsci | show some respect |
| 17:57.01 | simonrvn | troll |
| 17:57.04 | Starfury^ | anyone know how to load balance two internet connections with one linux router? |
| 17:57.13 | Starfury^ | illsci: lol... |
| 17:57.26 | FallOnMe | illsci: 2003 kicks XP's arse! |
| 17:57.27 | Starfury^ | Workbench 3.0 for the win |
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| 17:57.29 | Ronin | illsci: keeps me employed thats for sure |
| 17:57.43 | simonrvn | !tell squidly about root |
| 17:57.52 | Eulex | !start an os war |
| 17:57.52 | dpkg | Unix is better than Debian! Amiga Rocks! |
| 17:57.52 | weggpod | afby une idee |
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| 17:58.11 | edson | \quit |
| 17:58.12 | apacker | doub_, p[asted to flood gotta run wil be back in 15 really sorry hope u still around gotta go go go |
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| 17:58.15 | illsci | hey... |
| 17:58.20 | illsci | how do i turn off ipb6 |
| 17:58.23 | illsci | ipv6.. |
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| 17:58.58 | C`Alex | Hello, |
| 17:58.58 | C`Alex | Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost. |
| 17:58.58 | C`Alex | 111 : Connection refused |
| 17:59.03 | C`Alex | how i can install IMAP? |
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| 17:59.23 | doub_ | illsci: you might rmmod ipv6, assuming it's compiled as a module |
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| 17:59.42 | illsci | doub_ it is... but it keeps gettig loaded on reboot and i have it turned off... |
| 17:59.51 | illsci | hmm maybe ill just comment it out |
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| 18:00.01 | abrotman | this isn't funny |
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| 18:00.49 | doub_ | illsci: you can rename the module, like "mv ipv6.ko ipv6.ko.disabled" |
| 18:00.50 | Eulex | oh... 98 freaks too |
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| 18:02.32 | doub_ | illsci: but that's not very practical either, as you might have to repeat this every kernel upgrade |
| 18:02.35 | abrotman | !beer HedgeMage |
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| 18:02.50 | illsci | yeah im not going to do it that way |
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| 18:03.03 | simonrvn | yay |
| 18:03.06 | HedgeMage | :) |
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| 18:03.19 | simonrvn | 3 from the same IP |
| 18:03.20 | abrotman | can we just ban 85.* .. again ? |
| 18:03.29 | illsci | its brazil isnt it? |
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| 18:03.34 | simonrvn | no |
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| 18:03.35 | abrotman | spain or .tr iirc |
| 18:03.35 | nick|away | it's turkey |
| 18:03.39 | simonrvn | .es |
| 18:03.41 | HedgeMage | someone hilight me if there are further problems... I'm going to be checking on other chans |
| 18:03.53 | illsci | support the Green Ribbon champain |
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| 18:03.53 | illsci | ban brazil from the internet :) |
| 18:03.53 | C`Alex | how i can install IMAP? |
| 18:04.48 | abrotman | C`Alex: apt-cache search imap server .. pick one |
| 18:04.48 | tnks | Okay, so I looked at XGL, and I think it's not what I was really interested in. |
| 18:04.48 | simonrvn | C`Alex: by installing an imapd |
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| 18:04.49 | C`Alex | imp3 - Web Based Mail Program |
| 18:04.49 | C`Alex | ?? |
| 18:04.51 | abrotman | no .. that's a client |
| 18:04.53 | azeem | are testing's or unstable's abiword or OOo able to import .tex files? |
| 18:05.04 | abrotman | C`Alex: courier,cyrus,dovecot are a few |
| 18:05.04 | eduardoboss | alguem sabe alguma mail list boa sobre seguranca ? |
| 18:05.07 | abrotman | !es |
| 18:05.07 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 18:05.10 | eduardoboss | ops ;/ |
| 18:05.11 | tnks | I'm just trying to figure how why my Xorg.0.log says "(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE", but there's not indication of Composite with xdpyinfo. |
| 18:05.12 | simonrvn | 85.98.4.21; netname: TurkTelekom |
| 18:05.13 | simonrvn | descr: ADSL-MET-Erzurum-Dynamic Pool |
| 18:05.13 | abrotman | whoops |
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| 18:05.17 | abrotman | eduardoboss: /j #debian-br |
| 18:05.18 | evaded | Hi guys, recently i have setup my tv card and great it work nice with 'tvtime'. I m'now a trying to look for some applications to record from my tv card. Some suggestion or can you redirect me to the right way? |
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| 18:05.50 | simonrvn | 85.98.0.0/17AS9121 |
| 18:05.57 | simonrvn | ban by ASN ;) |
| 18:06.29 | eduardoboss | abrotman, i know, i typed wrong |
| 18:06.30 | abrotman | azeem: i would think OO can ... |
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| 18:07.29 | simonrvn | 2 more |
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| 18:07.39 | evaded | I have found an great website 'http://www.linuxtv.org/' but most apps like mythtv dvr and so looks not available here on my debian box, i not know where to look. lirc i set to pause, a bit to complicate for now :-/ and like there are say in that domument take you're time for it ... |
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| 18:07.53 | simonrvn | fuck |
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| 18:08.14 | doub_ | simonrvn: i'm shocked ;) |
| 18:08.18 | abrotman | !tell evaded about mythtv |
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| 18:08.42 | simonrvn | TimeLord and TARIK6 |
| 18:09.14 | abrotman | simonrvn: why not avakado ? |
| 18:09.22 | simonrvn | avakado smells like one too |
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| 18:09.33 | abrotman | simonrvn: same IP as TimeLord :) |
| 18:09.33 | evaded | abrotman: hhhm, possible that i have #deactivate my marillat line in my sourcelist :-) going to check that ;-) |
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| 18:09.36 | azeem | abrotman: at least 1.x version in stable (which is what I have around here) doesn't |
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| 18:09.44 | simonrvn | i was typing that as i saw you send to me :) |
| 18:09.50 | simonrvn | figures |
| 18:09.56 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 18:10.04 | abrotman | azeem: i just checked the OO2 for win32 .. and it dosen't seem to be able to do tex files .. which seems stupid |
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| 18:10.27 | azeem | I thought I saw such import a while ago, but dunno |
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| 18:10.41 | abrotman | azeem: you could ask #debian-oo .. if anyone is there |
| 18:11.01 | evaded | abrotman: It was desactivated, i remember, i had desactivate it when i could not connect it some days ago ;-) Thanks man :-) |
| 18:11.09 | abrotman | ok |
| 18:11.38 | simonrvn | there we goo |
| 18:11.41 | simonrvn | go* |
| 18:12.08 | simonrvn | still have those XP- lusers .. |
| 18:12.22 | azeem | they don't talk in here, though? |
| 18:12.41 | abrotman | azeem: can you blog about "Insulting another person over RSS is the stupidest thing to hit this little ball of rock" ? :) |
| 18:13.51 | simonrvn | uh, that's not the point |
| 18:14.03 | abrotman | they could be spamming via /msg |
| 18:15.08 | simonrvn | for instance. ir logging for further info gathering ... a number of things |
| 18:17.33 | simonrvn | 81.215.214.106; netname: TurkTelekom |
| 18:17.33 | simonrvn | descr: ADSL-MET-Gayrettepe-Dynamic Pool |
| 18:17.46 | simonrvn | 81.215.128.0/17 |
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| 18:20.27 | larl | Hi, I have a problem with ssh + scp, I can connect to my sshd server, but scp does not work, I use iptles with default DROP like this |
| 18:20.30 | larl | INPUT DROP |
| 18:20.30 | larl | FORWARD DROP |
| 18:20.30 | larl | OUTPUT ACCEPT |
| 18:20.32 | larl | -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT |
| 18:20.35 | larl | any idea? |
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| 18:21.32 | larl | scp uses other port? |
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| 18:22.18 | C`Alex | how i can install IMPA ? |
| 18:22.22 | C`Alex | please tell me :(( |
| 18:22.26 | C`Alex | IMAP |
| 18:22.32 | jengelh | go google |
| 18:22.35 | jengelh | larl: 22 |
| 18:22.49 | Neverther | C`Alex, apt-cache search cyrus ; apt-get install cyrus21 |
| 18:22.53 | Neverther | or something |
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| 18:25.31 | simonrvn | C`Alex: abrotman told you what to do 0.5 an hour ago. |
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| 18:26.18 | abrotman | and yesterday too :) |
| 18:26.20 | C`Alex | i install cyrus21 ok |
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| 18:26.34 | abrotman | C`Alex: what is your native language? |
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| 18:26.40 | C`Alex | ro |
| 18:26.52 | Den-Dens | Hi i just tryed to install realplayer i downloaded the .bin file from the site but i get this error when i'm trying to install (yes i'm logged in as root) bash: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: acces deneyed. |
| 18:26.52 | Den-Dens | Does anyone have an idea how i can get it to work? |
| 18:26.53 | abrotman | and i bet there is no #debian-ro huh ... |
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| 18:27.02 | C`Alex | 0 |
| 18:27.06 | C`Alex | persoon |
| 18:27.08 | abrotman | Den-Dens: is it +x ? |
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| 18:27.55 | Kinks | Den-Dens: make it executable |
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| 18:28.32 | simonrvn | C`Alex: cd /usr/share/doc/cyrus21-common/ ; less README* |
| 18:28.42 | Den-Dens | how do i do that exactly i'm not to familiar with this so :) |
| 18:29.03 | g3brown | I ghosted a sarge 3.1 install to another disk. It's not booting off the new drive. Any suggestions? |
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| 18:29.40 | rohan | hi all .. |
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| 18:29.50 | Kinks | Den-Dens: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tutorial.en.html#s-file-perm |
| 18:29.54 | rohan | is there some apt option to remove a prog. as well as it dependencies ? |
| 18:29.56 | Kinks | read that and you should understand how. |
| 18:30.20 | Den-Dens | k thx kinks we'll have a look |
| 18:30.31 | rohan | its a really much-needed function |
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| 18:30.51 | apacker | doub, did you catch my "route" paste to #flood awhile back? |
| 18:31.08 | doub | apacker: i wasn't there when you pasted it, sorry |
| 18:31.20 | C`Alex | Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost. |
| 18:31.20 | C`Alex | 111 : Connection refused |
| 18:31.21 | lepton | g3brown: try to boot with a grub floppy |
| 18:31.21 | apacker | doub there no? |
| 18:31.25 | apacker | doub now* ? |
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| 18:31.29 | doub | apacker: i'm in now |
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| 18:31.59 | g3brown | lepton: after I typed my question, I just saw where ghost 8.2 has trouble with grub. I going to try reghosted with a special switch. |
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| 18:32.40 | apacker | doub, I also followed it up with my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:32.42 | apacker | doub, the commented lines in /etc/network/interfaces are things I have tried |
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| 18:32.59 | apacker | doub, also tried many convolutions of "route add 192.168.0.1" "route add default gw 192.168.0.1" etc etc |
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| 18:33.43 | doub | apacker: i don't quite get what you want to do, in fact. you don't need a gateway to reach 192.168.0.0/24, do you? |
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| 18:34.15 | Marudubshinki | I'm using a laptop. To enable apm, is it sufficient to add apm=on to /boot/grub/menu.lst? |
| 18:34.31 | doub | apacker: if you do, you might have trouble with a firewall on your machine |
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| 18:35.07 | Marudubshinki | as in "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro noapic apm=on"? |
| 18:35.36 | LSorensen | Marudubshinki: installing apmd might help more |
| 18:35.47 | LSorensen | Marudubshinki: since apm is probably a module so the kernel command line would do nothing |
| 18:35.59 | Den-Dens | mh |
| 18:36.13 | Marudubshinki | oh, I've got apmd installed. |
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| 18:36.37 | Marudubshinki | I came upon the instructions to add apm=on when I was trying to figure out why apm was giving me kernel errors when I tried to use it. |
| 18:36.51 | Marudubshinki | ("No APM support in kernel") |
| 18:36.56 | LSorensen | Marudubshinki: probably applies to systems with apm built in |
| 18:37.05 | LSorensen | Marudubshinki: check if 'modprobe apm' works |
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| 18:37.16 | C`Alex | Warning: fsockopen(): unable to connect to localhost:143 in /usr/share/squirrelmail/src/configtest.php on line 249 |
| 18:37.16 | C`Alex | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.21 | Marudubshinki | FATAL: Module apm not found. |
| 18:37.31 | LSorensen | Marudubshinki: what kernel version and architecture? |
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| 18:38.40 | Marudubshinki | LSorensen: amd64, 2.6.15-1l I;m using unstable repositories pinned to testing. |
| 18:38.47 | unperson | I'm using the debian packages for ATLAS (e.g. atlas3-base). I know that ATLAS only has a partial implementation of lapack, but one can construct a library that includes the unoptimized lapack code for everything not provided by ATLAS. Do the debian ATLAS packages contain a full LAPACK implementation or not? |
| 18:39.10 | azeem | unperson: better mail the maintainer with such questions |
| 18:39.14 | azeem | unperson: or the debian-science list |
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| 18:39.19 | azeem | debian-science@lists.debian.org |
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| 18:40.25 | HelmutG | Can someone help me find out which library provides the XF86VidModeQueryVersion symbol required by recent nvidia-glx? |
| 18:40.32 | LSorensen | Marudubshinki: I don't think amd64 does apm. they are too new. acpi is what they yse |
| 18:40.44 | LSorensen | Marudubshinki: apm is for ancient crap |
| 18:41.17 | Den-Dens | ok it's working it was quite simple (do i feel stupid :)) Thx guys |
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| 18:41.40 | Marudubshinki | LSorensen: really? than I shall investigate acpi. |
| 18:42.00 | LSorensen | Marudubshinki: modprobe acpi; apt-get install apcid |
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| 18:43.05 | TGoC | Hello |
| 18:43.08 | unperson | azeem: Yeah, you're probably right. |
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| 18:44.35 | TGoC | I need some help, i don't know if i'm in the correct channel though. I got my debian system setup for a long time. (I'm using sarge, can't tell exactly wich version but my best guess is 4.1 if that's possible. I have some issues. I am behind an router and all but i got a domain pointed to my ip. I want to use it on my server, but for some reason it does not read the domain |
| 18:45.03 | TGoC | It most likely reads it as IP instead. Causing my Apache virtualhost block not to work. Anyone can help me out on this one? |
| 18:45.36 | w32 | has any one here installed asterisk on debian sarge ? along with freepbx/amp ? did you experience any problems/bugs ? |
| 18:46.05 | Zuk | http://www.nuitduhack.com/ndh-6790H7/ |
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| 18:48.01 | nixie | !ops Zuk spammer |
| 18:48.02 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Zuk spammer |
| 18:48.11 | Ronin | too slow nixie :) |
| 18:48.20 | nixie | :) |
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| 18:50.59 | simonrvn | still have one of the XP- bots here |
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| 18:53.52 | TGoC | Can someone help me out why i can't point domains to my server ( i know it has an router in between but if there was a DMZ function i would've used.) |
| 18:53.55 | abrotman | every time they paste a URL here .. we'll just post it to slashdot .. problem solved! |
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| 18:54.46 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 18:54.50 | asdfasdf | how come my vid card's max resolution is only 1024x768 61Hz |
| 18:54.51 | asdfasdf | ? |
| 18:55.07 | TGoC | because your vid card s*cks? |
| 18:55.08 | asdfasdf | i usually use 1024x768 75Hz |
| 18:55.13 | simonrvn | it's also dependent on the monitor |
| 18:55.22 | Eulex | you're using the vesa driver or lied to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? |
| 18:55.34 | asdfasdf | yeah, im using vesa driver |
| 18:55.44 | simonrvn | no wonder |
| 18:55.45 | asdfasdf | coz damn nvidia don't like me |
| 18:55.46 | asdfasdf | :/ |
| 18:55.57 | simonrvn | asdfasdf: 2.6.16 kernel? |
| 18:56.03 | power1 | In psotfix, If i am using the " relay =" field in main.cf to send mail through ISP smtp server, and I need to authenticate to that server only and not do sasl authentication for my LAN users, do I still need to do the whole sasl setup thing..or is there and easy way? |
| 18:56.05 | Eulex | asdfasdf, why not use the nv driver then? |
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| 18:56.12 | simonrvn | asdfasdf: if so, see the BTS |
| 18:56.14 | asdfasdf | 2.4.27 |
| 18:56.26 | simonrvn | should be no provlem building then |
| 18:56.31 | simonrvn | problem* |
| 18:56.40 | asdfasdf | Eulex, howd i do it |
| 18:57.15 | simonrvn | power1: #postfix |
| 18:57.23 | Eulex | !drxx asdfasdf |
| 18:57.23 | dpkg | asdfasdf: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:57.27 | Kerr | anyone know of a decent genesis emulator? |
| 18:57.28 | abrotman | power1: #postfix ? |
| 18:57.29 | asdfasdf | simonrvn, what is BTS? |
| 18:57.32 | abrotman | Kerr: dgen |
| 18:57.33 | simonrvn | @bts |
| 18:57.34 | ravenbird | the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try <http://bugs.debian.org/packagename>. Anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug. reportbug also has querybts in it; 'querybts <bug number>' or 'querybts <package name>' |
| 18:57.49 | Kerr | abrotman: i'm a gui person.. anything easier to use/idiotproof ? |
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| 18:58.20 | simonrvn | no such thing as idiot-proof. nature always makes better idiots |
| 18:58.25 | abrotman | Kerr: it's pretty damn easy `dgen <bin>` |
| 18:58.43 | abrotman | if you can't handle that .. you've got issues |
| 18:58.56 | Matic`Makovec | hi guys. i had some problems with connection so i added a proxy for apt get in apt.conf. all worked ok. so now connection problems are gone, and apt.conf as well but proxy still remains even though i removed it. any ideas? |
| 18:58.57 | Eulex | Kerr, you should learn to love the terminal |
| 18:59.22 | simonrvn | the shell is Your Friend |
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| 18:59.27 | simonrvn | [tm] |
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| 19:00.01 | asdfasdf | simonrvn, nvidia is not n the list |
| 19:00.16 | Eulex | !nvidia one-liner |
| 19:00.16 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia one-liner was update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 19:00.18 | asdfasdf | there's nv, nsc, newport |
| 19:00.31 | Eulex | asdfasdf, nv will work, but won't give you 3d accel |
| 19:00.39 | asdfasdf | ic |
| 19:00.45 | moshii | Is there anything I need to add to have the gcc in unstable crosscompile for NetBSD Sparc> |
| 19:00.51 | lzhang | how do I allow a range of ports in iptables? |
| 19:00.51 | asdfasdf | so that module-assistant can help |
| 19:00.54 | simonrvn | nvidia-glx. and it's not applicable to 2.4.27. re-read what i said |
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| 19:01.06 | Eulex | moshii, yes; get the gcc sources and compile it. |
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| 19:01.17 | simonrvn | simonrvn asdfasdf: if so, see the BTS |
| 19:01.28 | TGoC | Could someone please help me out? I got a Domain and the www. is sent to my IP address. Only 1 problem, my apache does not read it as an domain. NOTE: I'm behind an router. |
| 19:01.36 | moshii | Eulex: there aren't any cross compiler packages? |
| 19:01.45 | simonrvn | no |
| 19:02.12 | Eulex | asdfasdf, let me clarify. 'nv' is an open source driver that will give you basic 2d graphics but no 3d accel. 'nvidia' is nvidia's proprietary and binary driver that will give you 3d accel. |
| 19:02.12 | abrotman | !tell Mnabil about away |
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| 19:02.17 | simonrvn | do you know how many architectures debian supports? |
| 19:02.18 | moshii | I'm trying to build packages from pkgsrc using distcc, 50mzh sparc ^^ |
| 19:02.26 | asdfasdf | i know |
| 19:02.27 | abrotman | Eulex: i think nv works for some older cards |
| 19:02.29 | abrotman | simonrvn: 11 ? |
| 19:02.30 | asdfasdf | that's what im sayin |
| 19:02.36 | asdfasdf | i thought nv was nvidia |
| 19:02.39 | simonrvn | *i* know |
| 19:02.43 | abrotman | simonrvn: sorry .. rhetorical question :) |
| 19:02.49 | abrotman | or not inntended for me! |
| 19:03.00 | simonrvn | asdfasdf: nv is the Free X driver |
| 19:03.03 | jengelh | moshii : that's quite few |
| 19:03.09 | simonrvn | abrotman: no worries bud |
| 19:03.14 | moshii | asdfasdf: nv = free driver, slow nvidia = closed driver pretty fast but leaks a lot |
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| 19:03.45 | asdfasdf | i see |
| 19:03.46 | AAre | Hi folks, I saw in the Reference how to pack a new kernel and how to uptade the current kernel version (with .deb files) ...but I tried to download the kernel at kernel.org and compile it...I got some errors, where can I find some article or something like it to teach me how to compile in the right way? |
| 19:04.01 | jengelh | there are about two crosscompilers for debian(sparc64): mingw32 and gcc-avr and gcc-h8300-hms (actually 3) |
| 19:04.10 | chealer | !tell AAre about kp |
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| 19:04.55 | moshii | jengelh: distcc doesn't care what os a compile node is running, or what cpu .. I think the compiler on the node just needs to be able to generate sparc code for my purpose |
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| 19:05.25 | jengelh | so think of something :) |
| 19:06.05 | moshii | I'm sure I've cross-compiled for m68k-amigaos on deb's gcc before, just can't remember how :( |
| 19:06.13 | Kerr | abrotman, Eulex: My bro is here, brought a streets of rage 3 rom; dgen is barely documented; and has a plain stupid default setup that makes 2p games all but impossible :-/ i don't see any way to change them either. |
| 19:06.18 | simonrvn | dpkg-cross |
| 19:06.28 | asdfasdf | debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process |
| 19:06.30 | abrotman | Kerr: i told you .. dgen <imagefile> |
| 19:06.32 | yggdrasil | how do i use mget in ftp w/o having to say y to every file ? |
| 19:06.33 | asdfasdf | what's this |
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| 19:06.44 | simonrvn | yggdrasil: globbing |
| 19:06.44 | abrotman | Kerr: and there is a nice conf file iirc |
| 19:06.51 | yggdrasil | globbing? |
| 19:06.53 | asdfasdf | i get it while doing that module assitance |
| 19:07.03 | simonrvn | file*.tar.gz |
| 19:07.08 | simonrvn | e.g. |
| 19:07.10 | abrotman | yggdrasil: it's like a vacuum for commands :) |
| 19:07.13 | abrotman | !globbing |
| 19:07.16 | abrotman | !glob |
| 19:07.17 | Eulex | AAre, (1) base your config on an official debian kernel config for a kernel version that is as near as possible as the kernel version you're compiling (2) use make-kpkg (3) compile ide and fs driver statically if you don't put them in an initrd |
| 19:07.17 | abrotman | bah |
| 19:07.19 | abrotman | stupid bot |
| 19:07.27 | Kerr | abrotman: yeah, the file is nice and empty :-/ |
| 19:07.37 | yggdrasil | well i did mget *.asf |
| 19:07.39 | yggdrasil | or * |
| 19:07.57 | abrotman | Kerr: so put stuff in it ? .. if `apt-cache search genesis` doesn't find more for you .. i guess you're stuck |
| 19:08.01 | simonrvn | yggdrasil: man bash; /glob |
| 19:08.36 | abrotman | wtf did i get dgen from ? |
| 19:08.37 | yggdrasil | k |
| 19:08.49 | simonrvn | !find bin/dgen |
| 19:08.50 | asdfasdf | nvidia is pain is the ass man |
| 19:08.53 | asdfasdf | in* |
| 19:09.00 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/dgen' (1): (/usr/bin/{dgen|dgen_tobin}) in non-free/otherosfs/dgen. |
| 19:09.34 | Kerr | abrotman: it's empty and undocumented... i wouldn't mind if there was some sort of convulted manual to try and read.. |
| 19:09.55 | Eulex | Kerr, tried dpkg -L dgen? |
| 19:09.59 | simonrvn | ^^^ |
| 19:10.06 | asdfasdf | debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process |
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| 19:10.14 | asdfasdf | what's this? |
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| 19:10.34 | abrotman | Kerr: did you look in /usr/share/doc/dgen/* ? |
| 19:10.39 | asdfasdf | brb |
| 19:10.52 | simonrvn | means something else is running that's accessing it. the package system locks stuff so only one process reads/writes to various files. |
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| 19:11.03 | abrotman | simonrvn: that was the last one! \o/ |
| 19:11.07 | neur0x | hi all |
| 19:11.09 | simonrvn | finally, that [XP-*] thing is gone |
| 19:11.22 | simonrvn | \o/ |
| 19:11.34 | TGoC | I added an virtualhost block to my apache config, but somehow it does not progress them. When i visit heaven.elitez0r.com (my site) i will get the Unhandled webpages instead of the assigned map |
| 19:11.52 | simonrvn | asdfasdf is gone ... |
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| 19:12.02 | Eulex | TGoC, peback question: did you restart apache? |
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| 19:12.12 | TGoC | many times |
| 19:12.13 | TGoC | :p |
| 19:12.33 | abrotman | Eulex: PEBCAK .. apparently your spelling is affected also :) |
| 19:12.40 | TGoC | i played on it for like 100 hours before i even started asking around so :) |
| 19:13.00 | Eulex | abrotman, hehe, typing, actually :) |
| 19:13.05 | AAre | Eulex, ok, I'll do that, but I just want to know how to compile a kernel out of the Debian way...just for the LPIC-1 exam :D |
| 19:13.11 | simonrvn | typos: typing PEBKACs |
| 19:13.28 | Eulex | AAre, ##linux then |
| 19:13.49 | abrotman | drive status = 436207616 .. that's useful |
| 19:13.55 | simonrvn | mmm |
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| 19:14.13 | Alexutzaa | Checking database functions... |
| 19:14.13 | Alexutzaa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.14 | Alexutzaa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.15 | Alexutzaa | ??? |
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| 19:14.19 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 19:14.23 | Alexutzaa | ufff |
| 19:14.25 | simonrvn | duh |
| 19:14.30 | Alexutzaa | Help |
| 19:14.30 | Alexutzaa | Checking database functions... |
| 19:14.35 | Alexutzaa | PHP Pear DB support is present. |
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| 19:14.37 | abrotman | Alexutzaa: STOP |
| 19:14.37 | simonrvn | stop pasting already |
| 19:14.42 | Alexutzaa | k |
| 19:14.43 | Alexutzaa | :( |
| 19:14.47 | Eulex | !paste |
| 19:14.48 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 19:15.00 | simonrvn | you'd think you'd get the point the *first* time around |
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| 19:15.23 | Alexutza | chan u help me ? |
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| 19:15.28 | simonrvn | #php |
| 19:15.28 | abrotman | !tell Alexutza about u |
| 19:15.43 | Alexutza | aa |
| 19:15.45 | Alexutza | ok |
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| 19:18.13 | qwek | hi, i installed a package but the configure failed, can i start it again? |
| 19:18.52 | qwek | ok install again worked, nm~ |
| 19:18.57 | simonrvn | dpkg --configure -a |
| 19:19.10 | Alexutza | :(( |
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| 19:19.53 | simonrvn | would help if you told us what you're trying to do, instead of pasting the error messages with no context |
| 19:19.59 | Alexutza | Boys is a bigy |
| 19:20.09 | abrotman | don't touch me there |
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| 19:21.02 | assfadf | Eulex, it worked |
| 19:21.03 | assfadf | :D |
| 19:21.07 | ryan` | is it safe to symlink /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts? |
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| 19:21.21 | jengelh | ryan` : Not always. |
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| 19:22.03 | Eulex | assfadf, nv worked? or nvidia? |
| 19:22.11 | ryan` | jengelh, when would it not be safe? |
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| 19:22.22 | assfadf | nvidia |
| 19:23.05 | plutonas | hello, I don't understand how exactly the format of the debian repo's at the sources.list file should be. For example if I want to add: http://debian.video.free.fr/ how exactly should be the line? |
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| 19:23.19 | Eulex | plutonas, man sources.list |
| 19:23.48 | plutonas | Eulex, thx I didn't think about it |
| 19:24.11 | simonrvn | ryan`: only if you patch your kernel is it safe. there's a patch where /proc/mounts will serve the same purpose as /etc/mtab |
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| 19:25.19 | Axiom | hi, i'm trying to compile some drivers for my wan card but i'm getting an error that pdev->slotname is undefined |
| 19:25.30 | Axiom | which library or package do i need to resolve this |
| 19:26.06 | Eulex | Axiom, what driver? |
| 19:26.41 | assfadf | brb |
| 19:27.15 | Alexutza | Checking database functions... |
| 19:27.15 | Alexutza | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.16 | Alexutza | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.18 | Alexutza | help plzzz |
| 19:27.18 | Alexutza | :(( |
| 19:27.21 | Axiom | rtl8180 |
| 19:27.24 | Eulex | Axiom, iirc that's due to changes in the kernel interface, and suggests that you've got an older version of the driver. or that it's not updated. |
| 19:27.56 | Axiom | this driver is for kernel 2.6, which i am using, however it was written for redhat |
| 19:28.14 | Eulex | Alexutza, (1) #php (2) don't paste (3) don't repeat (4) do what you're told to |
| 19:28.43 | Eulex | Axiom, there were interface changes within the minor minor revisions of the kernel. |
| 19:28.44 | simonrvn | Alexutza: would help if you told us what you're trying to do, instead of pasting the error messages with no context |
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| 19:29.01 | Eulex | Axiom, within the 2.6 kernel, that is |
| 19:29.06 | Axiom | i see |
| 19:29.24 | Axiom | would i need to rewrite the code to fix this, or can i download a package or something |
| 19:29.56 | Axiom | which header file is pdev found in anyway |
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| 19:30.20 | Eulex | Axiom, maybe try getting the latest one from http://sourceforge.net/projects/rtl8180-sa2400 |
| 19:30.22 | simonrvn | 2.6.15 -> 2.6.16 has some weird shit creeping in. breaks things, esp. 3rd-party drivers |
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| 19:31.49 | r3tex | are there apt inconsistencies in etch? |
| 19:31.59 | simonrvn | translation? |
| 19:32.22 | Eulex | simonrvn & Axiom, foo->slotname was changed to pci_name(foo) in 2.6.12-rc4 |
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| 19:32.33 | FlimFlamMan | does anyone know where the initial PYTHONPATH is set on a debian-sarge system? |
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| 19:32.40 | simonrvn | i was talking of another |
| 19:32.44 | Axiom | still same error :( |
| 19:33.02 | simonrvn | gimme a sec while i try to remember it |
| 19:33.12 | seb- | anyone know how to set partition *types* with fdisk? |
| 19:33.13 | _rene_ | FlimFlamMan: there is none. python is in /usr/lib/python2.3 when you mean that |
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| 19:33.44 | _rene_ | FlimFlamMan: whatever python defines itself is default ;-) |
| 19:34.23 | FlimFlamMan | _rene_, i have one system whose PYTHONPATH includes /usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages, and another that doesn't |
| 19:34.35 | Eulex | Axiom, if you can't get rtl8180 to work, you could try ndiswrapper. |
| 19:35.10 | _rene_ | FlimFlamMan: same versions of all packages? |
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| 19:35.38 | Axiom | is that like a generic driver? |
| 19:35.41 | SilverWolf | damn gnome 2.14 rocks :) push push :D |
| 19:35.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: BANG BANG BANG! |
| 19:35.47 | Eulex | !ndiswrapper |
| 19:35.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to wrap Windows drivers so that they can be used on Linux i386 only. If there is a Linux driver for your card, use that instead; if there isn't, email your manufacturer and ask for one (since it's better for everyone involved if there are real drivers), then ask me about "ndiswrapper one-liner" for information on setting up ndiswrapper. If you don't yet own a card, consider buying one that has real Linux drivers. |
| 19:35.52 | abrotman | tarzeau: eh? |
| 19:35.58 | tarzeau | abrotman: fall down dead! you are dead! |
| 19:36.26 | plutonas | what a driver should I choose at xserver config for an nvidia video card? |
| 19:36.31 | abrotman | plutonas: nv ? |
| 19:36.32 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes quick! |
| 19:36.51 | plutonas | nv? Ok thx |
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| 19:37.03 | wouterrr | argh... why does blacklisting not work with udev |
| 19:37.08 | Axiom | ok thanks guys |
| 19:37.15 | Axiom | and girls |
| 19:37.23 | wouterrr | i put all those badly loaded modules in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 19:37.30 | wouterrr | and it stays loading them! |
| 19:37.33 | wouterrr | what kind of crap is that |
| 19:38.17 | Eulex | !blacklist |
| 19:38.18 | dpkg | [blacklist] Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 19:38.43 | Eulex | wouterrr, and those aren't in /etc/modules? |
| 19:39.17 | wouterrr | nope, in /etc/modules are the modules i need |
| 19:39.32 | wouterrr | and i use udev, not hotplug |
| 19:39.38 | wouterrr | hotplug is purged |
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| 19:40.42 | SilverWolf | Where can i see when gnome-panel 2.14 will be uploaded to unstable? |
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| 19:40.51 | tarzeau | SilverWolf: packages.debian.org |
| 19:40.51 | abrotman | !info gnome-panel sid |
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| 19:40.54 | dpkg | gnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.12.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 369 kB, Installed size: 864 kB |
| 19:40.55 | SilverWolf | thanks |
| 19:40.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: killjoy! party-pooper! wet blanket! poor sport! |
| 19:41.02 | abrotman | SilverWolf: it's all getting there slowly |
| 19:41.05 | Eath | Um... So, after the last upgrade, my system has been quite messed up. And my skills aren't even enough to find out the problem. It keeps freezing up and all the links for programs are missing. Many KDE functions do not work. (Setting time in clock, for example.) |
| 19:41.15 | SilverWolf | abrotman, yeap... and its really getting me excited! :D |
| 19:41.25 | abrotman | SilverWolf: do you need kleenex? |
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| 19:41.34 | SilverWolf | abrotman, ohh yeaa!!! :D |
| 19:41.48 | SilverWolf | when Xorg 7.0 gets into unstable, then i need it bad! :D |
| 19:42.08 | abrotman | uh .. ok |
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| 19:42.43 | SilverWolf | Hehe... then the composition stuff gets running too. I dont wanna compile xorg myself and then in the future having to update it along the debian package system |
| 19:42.53 | Eulex | SilverWolf, get it from experimental if you want it that badly. I run it currently. works perfectly. and should do that if 6.9 runs well. |
| 19:43.08 | _rene_ | SilverWolf: well, you know that 6.9 and 7.0 are identical function-wise and it's therfore not relevant for users (except upgrades..)? ;-) |
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| 19:43.16 | SilverWolf | Eulex, well, if it go experimental, i get alot other packages too |
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| 19:43.33 | Eulex | Silent_al, set unstable to default-release |
| 19:43.42 | SilverWolf | _rene_, yeap. but only the modular version have support for the modules which Xgl and so requires |
| 19:43.42 | _rene_ | it it per default |
| 19:43.49 | _rene_ | experimental only is pinned as 1 |
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| 19:44.17 | rami | anyone here who can hack gst |
| 19:45.04 | osiris_ | with mdadm how can I add a disk to an allready working RAID5 system? |
| 19:45.05 | osiris_ | mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/hdc1 doesnt add the disk, just switches it with one thats allready there :p |
| 19:45.26 | SilverWolf | Damn im getting buttfucked in a moment when doing the run to experimental |
| 19:45.40 | Eulex | !default-release |
| 19:45.40 | dpkg | default-release is probably put APT::Default-Release "foo"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf (create if needed) and replace foo with stable, testing, unstable, experimental or whatever. that will make foo the standard release that packages will be fetched from |
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| 19:46.18 | Eulex | SilverWolf, you shouldn't get all packages from experimental. it's not designed for that. |
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| 19:47.20 | SilverWolf | Eulex, hm no... i have deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main in my source file... dont seen to get the deal |
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| 19:47.49 | ma|2k | DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
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| 19:47.57 | Eulex | ma|2k, GTFO |
| 19:47.58 | abrotman | !ops ma|2k DCC exploit |
| 19:47.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: ma|2k DCC exploit |
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| 19:48.18 | jengelh | I wonder when ppl will replace their buggy firmware |
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| 19:48.30 | abrotman | thank you mr. k-liner! |
| 19:48.33 | jengelh | And the deb bot should handle the DCC SEND AAAAA thing too! |
| 19:48.55 | streuner | abrotman: who was it? |
| 19:49.05 | abrotman | streuner: no idea .. |
| 19:49.06 | streuner | LoRez? or RichiH? |
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| 19:49.16 | abrotman | streuner: i'm sure the tard hit more than one channel |
| 19:49.24 | streuner | yes |
| 19:49.57 | streuner | well, it wasn't Richi |
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| 19:50.19 | albino | Where should I modify the environement variables which apache2 starts under? |
| 19:50.47 | Eulex | albino, /etc/init.d/apache2? |
| 19:50.55 | StereoSkit | heh |
| 19:51.15 | abrotman | albino: ask #apache |
| 19:51.18 | Eath | So, no one interested about my problem? :S Or should I define it more? And if so, how? What would be things you'd need to knwo to help me to fix it? |
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| 19:51.40 | abrotman | you could ask #debian-kde |
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| 19:52.01 | Eath | Ok. |
| 19:52.03 | SilverWolf | Aint experimental packages at http://ftp.debian.org/debian/? |
| 19:52.22 | abrotman | !experimental |
| 19:52.22 | dpkg | experimental is the bloody edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. for an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference |
| 19:52.36 | SilverWolf | Thanks hehe |
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| 19:53.04 | ouznext | Hi, check my Cacti host templates for Unix v1.3 (hpux, solaris, linux) at |
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| 19:53.16 | konfuzed | hey to have samba work for simple file sharing from the linux box to a windows home lan (2 boxes on 98) , is wins support required or can it be left off |
| 19:53.19 | Bone_Thug | can someone please help, right now im in root, but when i rebooted earlier and i got prompted for username and password, i typed in my secondary account username and password, and it said incorrect login!!!! but its the correct info cause i login with the same info al the time |
| 19:53.26 | ouznext | ... at http://adumont.hopto.org/~adumont/blog/tag/cacti . Hopefully they may be helpful to someone. |
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| 19:54.14 | ouznext | Bone_Thug: check if shell exec exists, and if home directory exists |
| 19:54.29 | ouznext | (look in /etc/password) |
| 19:55.37 | chino | i think i have two ldap servers isntalled some how! how do i verify this ? |
| 19:56.10 | Bone_Thug | whats shell exec?you mean the terminal? |
| 19:56.29 | SilverWolf | Eulex, it dosent seem gnome-panel 2.14 is in experimental. Do i need to RTFM? :) |
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| 19:57.26 | ouznext | Bone_Thug: the last field on the user line in /etc/passwd is the user shell. Check that the binary (eg /bin/bash) exists. |
| 19:57.34 | Eulex | SilverWolf, I was talking about xorg 7.0 |
| 19:57.41 | SilverWolf | Eulex, ah :) thanks |
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| 19:58.14 | Bone_Thug | alright, ouznext: i see my username in the file |
| 19:58.15 | Eath | Is it normal for swap to be full pretty much all the time? |
| 19:58.16 | Bone_Thug | now what? |
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| 19:59.01 | Bone_Thug | ouznext: want me to paste the line? |
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| 19:59.06 | abrotman | Eath: depends on what oyu're doing |
| 19:59.14 | Eath | Pretty much nothing... |
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| 19:59.44 | Eath | Having few programs running. |
| 20:00.04 | Bone_Thug | help |
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| 20:00.23 | BartVB | can anyone point me to where I can find out what site to use for security updates for 'testing' for the amd64 platform? Have been googling and browsing debian.org but can't find it ;( |
| 20:00.28 | Bone_Thug | my username and password isn't working when i try to login to debian |
| 20:01.05 | ouznext | Bone_Thug: have you checked /var/log/syslog for any error ? |
| 20:01.19 | Bone_Thug | no, hold on |
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| 20:02.12 | Bone_Thug | just DPSand lines and stuff |
| 20:02.25 | Bone_Thug | i don't understand, why the hell isn't my udername and passwordworkin |
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| 20:02.44 | abrotman | !tell BartVB about testing security |
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| 20:03.41 | Bone_Thug | iisn't the password in the /etc/passwd, where is it? someonme please help |
| 20:04.11 | ouznext | it in /etc/shadow |
| 20:04.24 | ouznext | (in encrypted form) |
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| 20:04.57 | Bone_Thug | wel how the heck am i usppoed to see something encry[ted |
| 20:05.03 | Shadowcat | you're NOT |
| 20:05.06 | Shadowcat | that's the whole point |
| 20:05.13 | deadcat | Bone_Thug: you dont |
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| 20:05.55 | Bone_Thug | well, ik need help on geting back in my system as my secondary account,m al i did was rebot, and now my stuff isn't working |
| 20:06.10 | ouznext | Bone_Thug: just check that there is a line for that user in /etc/shadow. Check that the information for that user is coherent in /etc/passwd |
| 20:06.21 | deadcat | !rescue |
| 20:06.22 | dpkg | i heard rescue is at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerFAQ |
| 20:06.23 | Bone_Thug | yes my username is in there |
| 20:06.32 | Bone_Thug | in both files |
| 20:06.43 | ouznext | are all you filesystem mounted ? (maybe your system is missing the user's home filesystem?) |
| 20:07.38 | ouznext | Bone_Thug: what about user shell and user home fields in /etc/passwd ? Are they ok (I mean, do they really exist *now* on your system?) |
| 20:07.45 | Thanatermesis | Bone_Thug's tha crossroads ? |
| 20:08.19 | eye69 | A |
| 20:08.30 | deadcat | B |
| 20:08.52 | Xteven | has anyone here tried to get the mailman cgi stuff running inside a chrooted apache ? |
| 20:09.06 | Rouke__ | Bone_Thug behaving this time? |
| 20:09.35 | Bone_Thug | i don't understand |
| 20:09.40 | Rouke__ | just got back from work, so I didn't follow |
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| 20:09.47 | Bone_Thug | im in passwd file in etc, my username is tere |
| 20:10.17 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: if you're logged in as root, can you successfully 'su normaluser' ? |
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| 20:10.59 | Bone_Thug | no, when my root password and root password are the same |
| 20:11.13 | Bone_Thug | let me try |
| 20:11.17 | sine | hello, can anybody help me with: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=4459 . thnx |
| 20:11.26 | Bone_Thug | alright |
| 20:11.29 | Bone_Thug | yes |
| 20:11.33 | Bone_Thug | Saneenglishmonk |
| 20:11.49 | Bone_Thug | i did "su <accountusername> |
| 20:11.57 | Bone_Thug | im in |
| 20:11.59 | Bone_Thug | now what? |
| 20:12.03 | abrotman | !tell sine about overwite |
| 20:12.16 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: it means that /etc/passwd is correct |
| 20:12.29 | abrotman | bah |
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| 20:12.35 | abrotman | !tell sine about overwrite |
| 20:12.37 | abrotman | much better |
| 20:13.04 | sine | abrotman: thanks, i will try it. |
| 20:13.09 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: are you at the console, or in X? |
| 20:13.17 | abrotman | sine: and you can't report a bug because you're using unofficial packages |
| 20:13.26 | Bone_Thug | im at the terminal |
| 20:13.36 | Bone_Thug | im in x right now as root |
| 20:13.53 | vin` | ooh |
| 20:13.54 | Bone_Thug | but im in ther terminal with my seconday account"money@debian" |
| 20:14.19 | Bone_Thug | money@debian:/root$ |
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| 20:14.30 | Bone_Thug | thats in the terminal |
| 20:14.50 | sine | abrotman: ok, it works fine |
| 20:14.57 | abrotman | sine: enjoy |
| 20:15.29 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: ok. Is 'money' the account you can't log in to? |
| 20:15.34 | Bone_Thug | yes |
| 20:15.42 | SaneEnglishMonk | (I'm assuming 'debian' is your machine name) |
| 20:15.43 | brest | hi guys |
| 20:15.49 | brest | got a question |
| 20:16.05 | RazaMetaL | PEAR must be installed (requires DB.php). Include path: .:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear |
| 20:16.10 | RazaMetaL | :( the same thing |
| 20:16.15 | RazaMetaL | I've php5 |
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| 20:16.26 | RazaMetaL | and have installed php-pear |
| 20:16.38 | RazaMetaL | # which pear |
| 20:16.38 | RazaMetaL | /usr/bin/pear |
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| 20:17.13 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: this'll sound silly, but are you sure that you were typing your password correctly? |
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| 20:17.39 | Bone_Thug | yes, and the capslock weren't on' |
| 20:17.41 | brest | if i do an apt-get install xfce4, i install the xfce4 window manager...and many other packages will be installed...if i later going to remove the xfce4 package, i want to remove all the other packages installed with xfce4 but the simple apt-get remove just removes xfce4 package not the others. how am i able to remove the others as well? |
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| 20:18.01 | abrotman | brest: use aptitude to install/remove .. or look into deborphan/debfoster |
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| 20:18.44 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: can you switch to another console and try and log in as 'money'? |
| 20:18.44 | brest | abrotman, a simple deborphan doesn't show me the other packages :( |
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| 20:19.33 | Bone_Thug | switch to another console? you mean another terminal? |
| 20:20.32 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: yes - one you reach by Ctrl-Alt-FX (where X is 1-6, with X on F7) |
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| 20:21.22 | brest | abrotman, debfoster is the right one, it works for me thx :-) |
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| 20:22.34 | jml6 | join #fluxbox |
| 20:22.48 | jml6 | whoops! |
| 20:22.50 | jengelh | jml6: no intention to do so |
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| 20:23.48 | abrotman | brest: man deborphan .. hint .. -a |
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| 20:24.03 | duxbarak | is there some trick to mounting audio cd's? |
| 20:24.05 | jlt | I have nuked my /var/lib/dpkg directory by accident. Is there a way to restore the files list flies? |
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| 20:25.51 | duxbarak | i can't mount audio cd's, can someone explain or help? |
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| 20:26.07 | pack | jlt: ouch. i think you are toast. |
| 20:26.10 | jlt | duxbarak: why do you wnat to mount an audio cd |
| 20:26.23 | abrotman | duxbarak: you don't mount audio cds |
| 20:26.26 | jengelh | To mount audio cds, use cdfs. |
| 20:26.29 | abrotman | jlt: your backup ? |
| 20:26.31 | jim__ | Whenever I start my debian box, I have to type "dhclient eth0" to get the network to work. What is a simple way I can fix this so it's autmatic? |
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| 20:26.41 | jlt | pack: I tried upgrading packages but even that does not really help. |
| 20:26.41 | jim__ | When I did the net install, I didn't have a network connection, and I said no configuration at this time. |
| 20:26.47 | brest | abrotman, wow thx :-) |
| 20:26.50 | abrotman | jim__: does your NIC try to start before PCMCIA ? |
| 20:26.51 | epictetus | jim__: man interfaces to see the manual page, and /etc/network/interfaces is the file to edit |
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| 20:27.02 | jlt | abrotman: I only backup my home dirs and etc. |
| 20:27.08 | epictetus | you need to add some lines along these lines: |
| 20:27.12 | jim__ | I don't know how to edit /etc/network/interfaces I read the man page and looked at it |
| 20:27.12 | epictetus | auto eth0 lo |
| 20:27.16 | epictetus | iface lo inet loopback |
| 20:27.20 | jim__ | Isn't there a curses tool or something to do it? |
| 20:27.22 | epictetus | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 20:27.25 | epictetus | thats it |
| 20:27.30 | epictetus | those 3 lines zshould work |
| 20:27.31 | jim__ | thanks |
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| 20:27.33 | duxbarak | jlt: how do you listen to/rip a cd without mounting it? |
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| 20:28.00 | jlt | duxbarak: cdparanio / cdda2wav for ripping |
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| 20:28.33 | jlt | duxbarak: an audio playing ap for listening |
| 20:28.48 | duxbarak | ok, and to copy a music cd ( for backup purposes, of cource ;) ? |
| 20:29.12 | ouznext | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:32.49 | abrotman | jlt: apt-get update .. might start the process |
| 20:32.56 | abrotman | duxbarak: dd |
| 20:32.58 | Bone_Thug | ok |
| 20:33.08 | Bone_Thug | i pressed control+alt+f1 |
| 20:33.16 | abrotman | jlt: the real problem will be getting your 'status' file back in order |
| 20:33.21 | Bone_Thug | then i logged in with the "moeny" account succesfully |
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| 20:33.33 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: excellent |
| 20:33.56 | Bone_Thug | so i rebooted, and whe i got to the x prompt, i tred loggin in as money, but it waited a couple of seconds, then the screen went black, then it took me back to the x prompt |
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| 20:34.27 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: ah, sounds like an X problem then |
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| 20:34.49 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: do you use kdm, gdm, or something else, do you know? |
| 20:35.01 | Bone_Thug | xdm |
| 20:35.17 | abrotman | look in /var/log/ for an error |
| 20:35.26 | duxbarak | Bone_Thug: did you use the kde user manager to create money? |
| 20:35.27 | abrotman | either in xdm.log or in your Xorg|Xfree log |
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| 20:36.03 | SaneEnglishMonk | abrotman: does xdm also write to ~/.xsession-errors? I know gdm does and offers to show you the output... |
| 20:36.09 | jim__ | I just came in here, and someone gave me three lines to put in /etc/network/interfaces and I did it and rebooted, but I still have to type "dhclient eth0" for the network to work. |
| 20:36.24 | jengelh | What package does /usr/bin/rename belong to? |
| 20:36.30 | Bone_Thug | what is xdm? gnome display maanger, are those desktop enviroments?? |
| 20:36.32 | jengelh | the evil bot does not return any results :( |
| 20:37.00 | BartVB | abrotman: thanks for the testing security pointer! Works perfectly! If you were a girl I would kiss you |
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| 20:37.21 | abrotman | BartVB: please don't :) |
| 20:37.23 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: no, they're display managers - basically, they show you the login screen |
| 20:37.24 | duxbarak | Bone_Thug: they let you log in and manage some startup stuff |
| 20:37.30 | jim__ | How do I make it so when I boot the network works automatically and I don't have to type "dhclient eth0" |
| 20:37.35 | abrotman | SaneEnglishMonk: itm ight .. but gdm also logs to /var/log iirc |
| 20:37.47 | abrotman | jim__: does your NIC come up before PCMCIA ? |
| 20:37.59 | jim__ | abrotman: I do'nt know...how do I figure that out? |
| 20:38.16 | abrotman | jim__: is it a laptop ? |
| 20:38.20 | jim__ | abrotman: I don't have a pcmcia card(to my knowledge) this is a desktop |
| 20:38.27 | abrotman | jim__: that answers that question |
| 20:38.30 | Bone_Thug | oh, i think i should use gdm, is there a way i can switch over, without losing all of my data? |
| 20:38.30 | abrotman | !tell jim__ about interfaces |
| 20:38.38 | duxbarak | Bone_Thug: which tool did you use to create the money user? |
| 20:38.53 | SaneEnglishMonk | abrotman: so it does. Looks like a subset of Xorg.$foo.log, though (the errors, I think) |
| 20:39.00 | duxbarak | Bone_Thug: just install/reinstall gdm |
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| 20:39.13 | SaneEnglishMonk | duxbarak: no, I don't know that that'll help |
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| 20:39.17 | jim__ | abrotman: I setup interfaces already |
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| 20:39.32 | jnco | nerds. |
| 20:39.40 | duxbarak | SaneEnglishMonk: he said he wanted to switch to gdm |
| 20:39.48 | SaneEnglishMonk | duxbarak: ah, sorry |
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| 20:39.59 | Bone_Thug | alright, so i do"uninstall xdm" and "install gdm"???? |
| 20:40.06 | jnco | <Bone_Thug> so i rebooted, and whe i got to the x prompt, i tred loggin in as money, but it waited a couple of seconds, then the screen went black, then it took me back to the x prompt (lol money) |
| 20:40.07 | jim__ | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/640790 |
| 20:40.08 | abrotman | jim__: paste them in #flood please |
| 20:40.11 | abrotman | jim__: or that |
| 20:40.21 | duxbarak | Bone_Thug: you don't need to uninstall, just add gdm |
| 20:40.25 | abrotman | jim__: your eth0 is not set to auto |
| 20:40.29 | bobibleyboo | Hey is anyone having problems with evolution in testing after applying upgrades yesterday? |
| 20:40.41 | jnco | Bone Bone Bone BONE BONE BONE I SAID WHATCHU GONNA DO with your X WINDOW Display manager comes for you I SAID WHATCHU gonna do aaaaaayooo bi badum |
| 20:40.47 | jim__ | abrotman: What is wrong..the first line? |
| 20:40.59 | SaneEnglishMonk | Bone_Thug: and when it asks you which display manager you want, make sure you choose 'gdm' |
| 20:41.05 | jnco | lololol bonethug |
| 20:41.16 | abrotman | jim__: above "iface eth0 inet dhcp" .. make a line that says "auto eth0" |
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| 20:41.44 | jim__ | thanks a lot abrotman I appreciate the help |
| 20:41.44 | Bone_Thug | alright |
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| 20:41.51 | jim__ | I'll see you on the other side after reboot |
| 20:41.53 | jnco | AIIIIIIIIIIIGht |
| 20:41.55 | abrotman | jim__: see ok ? |
| 20:42.25 | jnco | WAKE UP WAKE UP ITS THE FIRST OF THE Xfree86 So GET UP GET UP |
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| 20:42.47 | Bone_Thug | i tried install gdm |
| 20:42.50 | Bone_Thug | it said too few arguments |
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| 20:42.59 | jnco | bust your gat in the screen |
| 20:43.04 | Kurt | why do Democrats hate Jews? |
| 20:43.06 | duxbarak | Bone_Thug: "apt-get install gdm" ? |
| 20:43.08 | jnco | let em know whos boss |
| 20:43.22 | abrotman | Kurt: wrong channel |
| 20:43.45 | duxbarak | Kurt: cuz they ain't black or mexican, although half of them are female |
| 20:43.47 | Bone_Thug | ohh |
| 20:43.55 | abrotman | duxbarak: don't do that |
| 20:44.00 | kristalino | i look for an USB cd or dvd burner. Wich one could i use ? |
| 20:44.01 | Kurt | ah, ok |
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| 20:44.03 | duxbarak | abrotman: sorry |
| 20:44.15 | Bone_Thug | "gdm is already the newat version"? |
| 20:44.21 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
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| 20:44.42 | Bone_Thug | abortman: ok, let me try that |
| 20:44.51 | Kurt | but Democrats hate blacks and Mexicans, too |
| 20:44.57 | abrotman | !tell Mnabil about away |
| 20:44.57 | VulpesFoxnik | Whats a light footprint Sound Player that handles playlists? |
| 20:45.06 | jnco | Bone Bone Bone BONE BONE BONE I SAID WHATCHU GONNA DO with your X WINDOW Display manager comes for you I SAID WHATCHU gonna do aaaaaayooo bi badum |
| 20:45.07 | abrotman | Kurt: please go away |
| 20:45.12 | nkuttler_ | VulpesFoxnik: cplay |
| 20:45.13 | abrotman | jnco: come on .. stop .. |
| 20:45.14 | Kurt | what? |
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| 20:45.15 | Kurt | they do |
| 20:45.17 | jnco | lol. |
| 20:45.18 | jnco | sorry |
| 20:45.21 | abrotman | Kurt: GO AWAY |
| 20:45.23 | Kurt | that's why they want to keep them dependent on government handouts |
| 20:45.23 | jnco | im having too much fun |
| 20:45.24 | VulpesFoxnik | nkuttler_, Thankyou |
| 20:45.26 | Kurt | so they can control them |
| 20:45.26 | abrotman | !tell kurt about why debian |
| 20:45.29 | abrotman | !tell kurt about d-i |
| 20:45.34 | Bone_Thug | abrotman: ok, so reboot and login? |
| 20:45.37 | abrotman | try it |
| 20:45.48 | Shadowcat | !ops Kurt is trolling |
| 20:45.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Kurt is trolling |
| 20:45.56 | Bone_Thug | alright |
| 20:45.57 | Bone_Thug | hold on |
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| 20:46.22 | Xteven | anyone using enemies-of-carlotta ? |
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| 20:47.08 | VulpesFoxnik | It's bad enough Xorg takes 80 of my 128mb |
| 20:47.17 | VulpesFoxnik | I don't need ammarok using 99mb |
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| 20:47.28 | abrotman | you're running kde ? |
| 20:47.41 | VulpesFoxnik | Nope |
| 20:47.49 | VulpesFoxnik | XFCE4 |
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| 20:49.08 | VulpesFoxnik | I wish my video card had suported dri. It would most likely take a huge load off my memory |
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| 20:49.24 | abrotman | trident? :) |
| 20:49.34 | abrotman | i doubt DRI would help you in the slightest |
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| 20:49.49 | VulpesFoxnik | Na It's an ATI Radeon 7k |
| 20:50.20 | abrotman | that does work with DRI |
| 20:50.32 | VulpesFoxnik | Not on my card. Xorg simply crashes |
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| 20:50.35 | abrotman | it's still not going to affect the usage of your RAM |
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| 20:50.56 | Pedro420 | nvz: nandrew ? |
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| 20:51.03 | ryan` | what does /dev/random use to gather entropy? |
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| 20:51.35 | abrotman | jim__: all better? |
| 20:51.40 | Xteven | kernel drivers can register themselves as providing random stuff |
| 20:51.44 | jim__ | abrotman: yea it works great thanks |
| 20:51.49 | jengelh | ryan` : network, keyboard, mouse interrupts, random disk noise |
| 20:51.49 | Xteven | ryan` : entropy is gathered from that |
| 20:51.54 | lzhang | ryan`: hardware generated entropy pool |
| 20:52.08 | abrotman | i use the windspeed in st louis |
| 20:53.18 | jim__ | abrotman: I have two nics in my desktop eth0 and eth1, eth0 is plugged into the internet. And eth1 is plugged into a switch...feeding the switch. I typed "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE; echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_foward; what am I doing wrong? |
| 20:53.36 | abrotman | !iptables |
| 20:53.36 | dpkg | iptables is, like, the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 20:53.39 | matteo | random disk noise? |
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| 20:53.46 | abrotman | jim__: they would know more than i would |
| 20:54.16 | jengelh | matteo: not sure about it |
| 20:54.52 | jengelh | but position seeks are quite random |
| 20:54.53 | ryan` | hmm |
| 20:55.11 | jlt | abrotman: I have the status file. |
| 20:55.21 | ryan` | my host isn't getting anything in the entropy pool. I have no disk, keyboard or mouse. |
| 20:55.31 | Xteven | network card ? |
| 20:55.39 | ryan` | yes |
| 20:55.44 | ryan` | i have a nic |
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| 20:55.51 | abrotman | jlt: so what are you missing ? |
| 20:55.58 | jlt | abrotman: but apt-get update does not know which files belong to which (installed) package |
| 20:56.04 | amee2k | how can I find out which package provides "libX11.so.6"? |
| 20:56.10 | abrotman | jlt: paste the error somewhere |
| 20:56.12 | Xteven | ryan` : packets arriving are more or less randomly timed as well |
| 20:56.14 | abrotman | !tell amee2k about search |
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| 20:56.51 | jlt | abrotman: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `psmisc' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. |
| 20:56.59 | ryan` | Xteven: Ok. Well, my /dev/random is empty, any idea how to fix that? |
| 20:57.08 | abrotman | jlt: did you lose the /var/lib/dpkg/info/ directory ? |
| 20:57.23 | jlt | abrotman: this is repeated for every package, everytime i want to upgrade a package |
| 20:57.23 | Xteven | dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null |
| 20:57.24 | Xteven | :) |
| 20:57.34 | ryan` | Xteven: no disk |
| 20:57.38 | Xteven | ah |
| 20:57.38 | abrotman | jlt: ? |
| 20:57.39 | jlt | abrotman: yes. everything under /var/lib except for dpkg/status |
| 20:57.47 | abrotman | jlt: nice ... |
| 20:57.54 | Xteven | ryan` : maybe pump some traffic over the network |
| 20:57.55 | jlt | abrotman: yes.... |
| 20:57.58 | ryan` | Xteven, and network traffic isn't doing anything |
| 20:58.02 | ryan` | I'm using NFS root |
| 20:58.03 | abrotman | jlt: sadly .. you're going to have to create a list of packages installed .. and reinstall them .. that's my best guess |
| 20:58.06 | Xteven | ryan` : or if you can live with semi-random data, use /dev/urandom |
| 20:58.21 | abrotman | ryan`: your entropy is just as good as everyone else's |
| 20:58.31 | abrotman | ryan`: if you want to know more ... ask #kernel |
| 20:58.51 | jlt | abrotman: I guess I will do a clean install and use dpkg-{get,set}selections to restore my selection |
| 20:59.00 | abrotman | jlt: why? .. you can rescue the system |
| 20:59.04 | ryan` | Well, the problem is that mod_perl is trying to read /dev/random, and blocking |
| 20:59.07 | jlt | abrotman: How is that? |
| 20:59.24 | abrotman | jlt: create a list of packages installed from /usr/share/doc/ .. then reinstall them all :) |
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| 20:59.30 | abrotman | !status |
| 20:59.30 | dpkg | Since Sun Apr 2 19:40:32 2006, there have been 9 modifications, 691 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 229 commands. I have been awake for 2d 1h 18m 58s this session, and currently reference 34935 factoids. I'm using about 14400 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 288.54/14.44 child 0/0 |
| 20:59.32 | abrotman | bah |
| 20:59.47 | abrotman | that'll probably kill the bot :) |
| 20:59.53 | abrotman | !moron dpkg |
| 20:59.53 | dpkg | dpkg: You are moron #51 |
| 20:59.57 | VulpesFoxnik | nkuttker_ That works WONDERFUL. Thankyou very much |
| 21:00.00 | jlt | abrotman: dpkg refuses to upgrade packages (I guess because it does not know what files to delete) |
| 21:00.04 | Ronin | 0 morons? i find that hard to believe |
| 21:00.25 | abrotman | jlt: i'm aware of that .. but i'm pretty sure you can reinstall them all .. it's really up to you |
| 21:00.35 | abrotman | Ronin: luckily he doesn't count canadians |
| 21:00.44 | jlt | abrotman: how would I reinstall them all? |
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| 21:01.02 | Ronin | i was thinking they dont count americans but whatever floats your boat i say |
| 21:01.10 | jlt | abrotman: this is what I get: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/exim4_4.60-5_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 21:01.10 | jlt | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.14 | Xteven | ryan` : you could consider symlinking /dev/urandom to /dev/random :) |
| 21:01.16 | abrotman | jlt: ls -1 /usr/share/doc | xargs apt-get --reinstall install .. or something silly like that |
| 21:01.18 | k31th | any one know the bios key for a compaq laptop ~?? |
| 21:01.28 | abrotman | dependson the model |
| 21:01.32 | Ronin | k31th: im sure google does |
| 21:01.38 | abrotman | k31th: try #hardware |
| 21:01.43 | k31th | :D |
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| 21:01.53 | jossver | hello |
| 21:02.13 | jossver | I'm searching for a graphical version of a program like fdisk |
| 21:02.19 | ryan` | Xteven: was considering that. |
| 21:02.29 | jossver | to delete and add new partitions |
| 21:03.16 | jossver | does anybody have any ideas? |
| 21:03.30 | amee2k | abrotman: ty. it was the apt-file update i was missing |
| 21:03.35 | menko | jossver: I've used gparted and qtparted in the past |
| 21:03.39 | midget | Hi all! I've googled plenty for this but didnt get anywhere :( I tried to install tomcat5 with mod_jk2. Realising mod_jk2 is difficult to configure, I apt-get remove'd it. Then tomcat still thought it was there. So I tried reinstalling tomcat5, which didnt help. |
| 21:03.50 | Xteven | jossver : I see linhdd in apt |
| 21:03.57 | midget | then i tried uninstalling, and deleting all the config directories |
| 21:04.08 | jossver | menko, Xteven, are they graphical, like, in KDE or Gnome? |
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| 21:04.30 | midget | i reinstalled, but tomcat5 wont start now - it looks for policy files in /etc/tomcat5 |
| 21:04.30 | menko | jossver: yes... |
| 21:04.33 | Xteven | linhdd - GTK frontend for cfdisk/df/hdparm/mkfs |
| 21:04.37 | jossver | okay, thanks,m enko, Xteven |
| 21:04.41 | Xteven | I think so, haven't used it |
| 21:04.48 | midget | any help = awesomely appreciated |
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| 21:08.30 | chino | how do i find out what files a package has ? |
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| 21:09.13 | gnufan | How does Apache2 know what extensions mod_pho should apply to. The .conf had "Addtype", but I thought Addtype set the MIME type of the response, not when PHP should be actioned?! |
| 21:09.23 | jengelh | How to make gcc-4.0 (already installed) the default over 3.3? |
| 21:09.27 | gnufan | s/mod_pho/mod_php4 |
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| 21:10.02 | gnufan | jengelh: "export GCC=gcc-4.0" works for most make files |
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| 21:10.12 | peritus_ | how do i show which package i file belongs to? |
| 21:10.18 | gnufan | !search |
| 21:10.18 | dpkg | i guess search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
| 21:10.26 | peritus_ | thanks |
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| 21:10.54 | jengelh | gnufan : yeah, I already do that, but a number of packages are half-assed to re-set CC with gcc everytime |
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| 21:11.59 | gnufan | jengelh: relink gcc -- it is just a symbolic link.... don't know if there is a script to do this, I think just "rm" and "ln" |
| 21:12.27 | jengelh | that's the "problem", /usr/bin/gcc is _not_ a symlink |
| 21:12.39 | jengelh | what would I lose? |
| 21:12.45 | UncleSkunk | how would I get rid of something like say a dir. I did apt-get remove --purge apache . but its still there and its telling me now I can't getrid of it cause it doesn't exist |
| 21:13.03 | gnufan | jengelh: I think gcc should be -- what version of Debian you running? |
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| 21:13.17 | jengelh | sarge 3.1 on sparc64, installed: gcc-3.3, gcc-3.4 and gcc-4.0 |
| 21:14.27 | gnufan | jengelh: its a symbolic link on both sarge and sid in x86 --- hmm -- have you fiddled before? Move it out the way and link it to gcc-4.0 and see if that works ;) |
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| 21:15.19 | gnufan | UncleSkunk: "man rm" ;) |
| 21:15.30 | UncleSkunk | man pages it is |
| 21:16.31 | Ashex | anyone know how to setup a usb printer in linux? |
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| 21:17.09 | UncleSkunk | k time to got break some stuff |
| 21:17.39 | pesco | 'lo. Would there be anything stopping a regular Debian user from installing an Ubuntu deb? |
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| 21:18.17 | madclicker | i am not getting hourly logchecks, but "/bin/sh: line 1: root: command not found" |
| 21:18.19 | madclicker | why? |
| 21:19.00 | bbrazil | madclicker: your corntab is messed up |
| 21:19.08 | Ronin | corntab? |
| 21:19.15 | bbrazil | madclicker: *crontab. it has an extra field |
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| 21:19.38 | TGoC | Anyone knows an easy to setup mailserver for debian sarge wich is not exim nor sendmail? |
| 21:19.43 | bbrazil | Ronin: it's for configuring cereal ports :) |
| 21:19.57 | bbrazil | TGoC: postfix |
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| 21:20.01 | Zugschlus | TGoC: postfix |
| 21:20.10 | Ronin | bbrazil: heh |
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| 21:20.50 | Xteven | pesco : a regular user ? you mean root maybe ? |
| 21:21.15 | pesco | Xteven: Er, no I meant a user of "regular" Debian, instead of its variant Ubuntu. |
| 21:21.23 | Xteven | ah |
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| 21:21.46 | Xteven | pesco : I believe ubuntu uses a lot of debian packages, but I wouldn't recommend mixing debian and ubuntu |
| 21:21.54 | abrotman | TGoC: postfix .. |
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| 21:22.03 | Xteven | pesco : consider things like dependencies and the like |
| 21:22.05 | Equinox | Anyone use Radius to authenticate sendmail ? |
| 21:22.08 | abrotman | you CANNOT mix ubuntu and debian .. your system will die a horrible death |
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| 21:22.33 | Equinox | abrotman- haha |
| 21:22.43 | madclicker | bbrazil, i dont see any differences between the two systems that have the crontab |
| 21:22.50 | abrotman | Equinox: might have better luck in #sendmail ? |
| 21:22.54 | madclicker | one works the other doesnt |
| 21:23.07 | Equinox | abrotman- I live in the middle of nowhere too.. They seem to give the boonies people fios. |
| 21:23.11 | bbrazil | madclicker: are the crontabs in the same location? |
| 21:23.11 | Equinox | abrotman- True |
| 21:23.18 | abrotman | Equinox: apparently you live in tampa :) |
| 21:23.25 | Equinox | abrotman- Lithia, actually. |
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| 21:23.40 | abrotman | Equinox: i assume that's to the north/northeast .. |
| 21:23.49 | Equinox | It's to the southeast |
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| 21:23.55 | Equinox | 45 minutes or so |
| 21:23.58 | pesco | Xteven, abrotman: I just want to package a program I wrote, to make it convenient to pass it around. It doesn't have any elaborate dependencies, probably just curses and libc. The question is just, if I make a package for Ubuntu (which I'm using), can my Debian friends still use it? |
| 21:24.00 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 21:24.11 | abrotman | pesco: maybe .. depends |
| 21:24.30 | madclicker | bbrazil, both machines are default sarge systems |
| 21:24.39 | abrotman | pesco: if it depends on a certain libc .. maybe not .. unless you make it depend on a really low libc6 |
| 21:24.45 | bbrazil | madclicker: you didn't answer my question |
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| 21:25.11 | bbrazil | madclicker: although you did answer the next question I was going to ask you |
| 21:25.19 | abrotman | pesco: you'll have to learn a lot about dependencies in the apt-get world .. |
| 21:25.39 | abrotman | pesco: might be easier on you to make a chroot of sarge and make packages there .. |
| 21:25.40 | pesco | abrotman: *whince* This is going to be my first deb... |
| 21:25.47 | abrotman | !mg |
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| 21:25.48 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) lynx /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or maint-guide.en.html in sarge/sid). 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or the shorthand for Madagascar |
| 21:25.53 | pesco | abrotman: A _what_? |
| 21:26.15 | abrotman | !chroot |
| 21:26.15 | dpkg | rumour has it, chroot is a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 21:26.24 | startxwhite | i am trying to get the a CVS driver at http://sourceforge.net/projects/rtl8180-sa2400 but i am getting the annoying 500 - Internal Server Error message. what gives? i am in the uk |
| 21:26.26 | abrotman | pesco: you're looking at a lot of work |
| 21:26.32 | abrotman | !tell pesco about mg |
| 21:26.49 | abrotman | pesco: start there .. read *a lot* .. at least get the package built .. then start worrying about friends |
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| 21:27.23 | chealer | startxwhite: perhaps there's...an Internal Server Error? |
| 21:27.32 | abrotman | !captain obvious chealer |
| 21:27.40 | chealer | !win me |
| 21:27.40 | dpkg | Congratulations, chealer! You have won a one way ticket to Charlotte, North Carolina ... YeeHaw!! |
| 21:27.58 | pesco | abrotman: know about the maintainer guide. I've jumped at understanding debian packaging several times but was always stumped by the appearent complexity. |
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| 21:28.31 | startxwhite | chealer: yeah but a friend tried in germany and did not get that error! |
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| 21:29.16 | chealer | startxwhite: really...well, I guess you can ask him to get the driver for you |
| 21:29.29 | dumezil | im about to make a software raid5 array of 48 disks (+2 spares). each disk is 36 gb. any suggestions on array chunk size or filesystem block size? |
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| 21:30.06 | abrotman | !package a deb |
| 21:30.06 | dpkg | Go to http://www.debian.org/devel, to dh_make., or check out the Debian Packaging Manual at http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/packaging.html/index.html |
| 21:30.13 | abrotman | ignore .. dead! |
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| 21:30.33 | hwt | dumezil: that sounds risky! |
| 21:30.55 | hwt | dumezil: raid 6 sounds more suitable, IMHO. |
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| 21:30.59 | startxwhite | chealer: cannot because sourceforge is DOWN as of now! |
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| 21:31.07 | dumezil | raid6? im not familiar with that |
| 21:31.10 | Ashex | son of a gun |
| 21:31.12 | Ashex | what's the command to list Pid? |
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| 21:31.22 | madclicker | can anyone help me with these error when logcheck is running "/bin/sh: line 1: root: command not found" |
| 21:31.51 | hwt | Ashex: ps aux? |
| 21:31.54 | TGoC | I have installed Postfix but it isn't sending out mail... :/ it's in qeue but that's basically the end :p |
| 21:31.54 | Lurzino | hello everyone.... to install KDE 3.4.3 from apt the commands sequence is apt-get install kdebase then apt-get install kde-i18n-it, am I right? |
| 21:31.59 | sl | wondering if anyone could help me witht he mrtg traffic gathering script I have that wont work: http://pastebin.com/640906 |
| 21:32.04 | hwt | Ashex: second column is pid. |
| 21:32.08 | chealer | startxwhite: sourceforge is down?? don't be stupid |
| 21:32.19 | hwt | dumezil: wikipedia knows. |
| 21:32.24 | chealer | Lurzino: ask #debian-kde |
| 21:32.33 | pesco | abrotman: Thanks for the hints... |
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| 21:32.39 | Lurzino | ok thanx |
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| 21:32.40 | startxwhite | chealer: that is what i am getting here! |
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| 21:33.17 | chealer | startxwhite: hehe. just joking. SF is known for being unreliable. they seem to run experimental |
| 21:34.04 | dumezil | hwt: does linux's md support raid6? |
| 21:34.39 | hwt | dumezil: think so, never tried it myself though. |
| 21:36.20 | dumezil | hwt: well my question of chunk size and block size still is out there... im looking at making ~1.6 TB block device. how big should the raid chunks be and how big should the block sizes be on the individual disks |
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| 21:37.56 | jlt | Are there (net)install CDs available for testing or unstable? |
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| 21:38.33 | chealer | !tell jlt about testing netinst |
| 21:38.39 | chealer | hum |
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| 21:38.46 | chealer | jlt: yes |
| 21:39.10 | jlt | chealer: where can I fetch the netinst? |
| 21:39.26 | chealer | !netinst |
| 21:39.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, netinst is a small cd or set of floppy images which install the base Debian system. For sarge, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ For boot floppies see http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ For etch see http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/etch_d-i/i386/beta1/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso for x86, or see dialup install. Also see d-i. |
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| 21:39.49 | hwt | dumezil: you should probably make a raid with fewer and bigger disks. |
| 21:39.57 | jlt | chealer: thanks |
| 21:40.04 | hwt | dumezil: your MTBF will go seriously down. |
| 21:40.23 | nn_school | do they hand out a mini dist that includes Alantik |
| 21:40.23 | dumezil | hwt: if i had bigger disks, i would... i chanced upon a 50 drive 36gig FC disk array |
| 21:40.36 | thingfish | It's amazing how much my blood pressure goes down once I get home, away from windows computers, and back to Debian. |
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| 21:41.14 | dumezil | hwt i know MTBF will go down, thats why im trying to make the most redundant system i can while makeing the largest storage space possible |
| 21:41.24 | madclicker | how can i restore from /etc/crontab after hosing "crontab /etc/crontab"? |
| 21:41.30 | jlt | chealer: that link is broken :( |
| 21:41.32 | TGoC | Hello? my Postfix is not working. The email has as state: connect to mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.190.179]: No route to host |
| 21:41.44 | chealer | jlt: right, sorry |
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| 21:41.53 | Ashex | gotta love sourceforge |
| 21:41.54 | jlt | chealer: is there another one? |
| 21:41.58 | rvsjoen | http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 21:42.12 | Ashex | I'm following a tut for setting up my printer. |
| 21:42.31 | Ashex | but apparently sourceforge is experiencing difficulties so the download page is dead |
| 21:42.35 | hwt | dumezil: then look at raid 6. |
| 21:42.39 | Ashex | >.< |
| 21:42.41 | hwt | dumezil: or raid0+1. |
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| 21:42.51 | thingfish | Ashex: gnome, or kde? or other... |
| 21:43.08 | Ashex | thingfish: kde |
| 21:43.08 | dumezil | TGoC your server's networking isn't properly configured then |
| 21:43.15 | hwt | dumezil: or partition your raid into smaller units. several raid 5s, for example. |
| 21:43.18 | jlt | chealer: so installing stable and upgrading is the only way? |
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| 21:43.25 | thingfish | Ashex: is it a particularly difficult computer to set up? Kcontrol should be able to do it, I'd think. |
| 21:43.30 | thingfish | aack |
| 21:43.32 | chealer | jlt: yes, no |
| 21:43.34 | thingfish | s/computer/printer |
| 21:43.50 | Ashex | It's a usb printer, so I need a certain driver for it |
| 21:43.54 | thingfish | ah |
| 21:44.06 | Ashex | thankfully HP was nice enough to release a driver for linux |
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| 21:44.31 | Ashex | but I can't download the damn thing! |
| 21:44.49 | danf_1979 | Hi, is there any channel for debian servers? |
| 21:44.55 | danf_1979 | Or this one will do? |
| 21:44.58 | thingfish | just this channel. |
| 21:45.02 | danf_1979 | ok |
| 21:45.04 | jlt | chealer: yes, no? |
| 21:45.16 | jlt | chealer: can you explain? |
| 21:45.49 | freeone3000 | Yes. This one. |
| 21:46.01 | danf_1979 | I have a test server in ubuntu. Is debian sarge better for the job in production servers? |
| 21:46.05 | chealer | jlt: yes to "is there another one?", no to "so installing stable and upgrading is the only way?" |
| 21:46.18 | danf_1979 | what about old software? are there security updates in sarge? |
| 21:46.33 | chealer | danf_1979: hopefully |
| 21:46.37 | jlt | chealer: Ah. OK. Do you know the other address? |
| 21:46.44 | chealer | jlt: I'm checking |
| 21:46.48 | danf_1979 | So, better go with ubuntu? |
| 21:47.08 | freeone3000 | danf_1979: Meh. Whatever you feel like maintaing. |
| 21:47.15 | freeone3000 | danf_1979: Apache2 is pretty much apache2. |
| 21:47.21 | chealer | danf_1979: did anyone say that? this is #debian, you may be disappointed if you ask us our preference |
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| 21:47.41 | chealer | danf_1979: at least, disappointed about the objectivity |
| 21:47.42 | thingfish | danf_1979: sarge get security updates, yes. |
| 21:47.56 | danf_1979 | chealer, I'm just asking around. I dont know yet if I will use ubuntu in production |
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| 21:48.13 | danf_1979 | I mean, ubuntu is debian derivative... |
| 21:48.33 | thingfish | danf_1979: most people needing linux in a production environment are very well pleased with Debian sarge's stability and reliablity. |
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| 21:50.59 | chealer | danf_1979: well, Ubuntu is a Debian derivative and is presumably affected by all the problems this implies. so, although your question is very general, the answer would probably be Debian stable |
| 21:50.59 | danf_1979 | uhm, would be better to use debian etch or sid for a production server? I mean, they have newer software... |
| 21:50.59 | thingfish | right, and bugs galore. |
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| 21:51.00 | thingfish | this must not be a very demanding production environment you're talking about. |
| 21:51.01 | danf_1979 | I'm going production in septembre thingfish... I'm just looking around |
| 21:51.02 | thingfish | oh well, september is a ways off... |
| 21:51.02 | danf_1979 | All I have right now is my test server |
| 21:51.27 | thingfish | danf_1979: very new components, or "established" components? |
| 21:51.41 | danf_1979 | what type of packages are passed to debian sarge? |
| 21:51.45 | chealer | danf_1979: if unstable was a good candidate for you, you would already know which release is best to use and wouldn't be asking. |
| 21:51.54 | thingfish | danf_1979: that doesn't make a lot of sense. |
| 21:52.07 | thingfish | danf_1979: 14 CDs worth of packages, if that's what you're asking. |
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| 21:53.11 | danf_1979 | I dont know... I just came here because my trust in ubuntu has beeing affected by a security bug a couple of months ago. The super user password was shown in a file world wide readable |
| 21:53.16 | chealer | jlt: see http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 21:53.22 | danf_1979 | been* |
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| 21:54.05 | thingfish | danf_1979: install sarge and see for yourself. Warning: it will ruin you for all other linuxes. |
| 21:54.25 | chealer | hehe |
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| 21:54.27 | danf_1979 | I like apt system |
| 21:54.30 | danf_1979 | I like debian |
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| 21:54.59 | jlt | chealer: thanks a lot |
| 21:55.28 | danf_1979 | The fact is that debian is not a very common option in dedicated servers |
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| 21:55.37 | entuall | bonne nuit, les gens |
| 21:55.39 | danf_1979 | CentOS and RH are commonly offered |
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| 21:55.56 | danf_1979 | I dont them though |
| 21:56.36 | danf_1979 | Well, I think I'll go for debian |
| 21:56.37 | thingfish | danf_1979: actually, it is. it is the fastest growing version of linux on servers - at least that's what I've read on linux.com and newsforge fairly recently. |
| 21:57.31 | danf_1979 | I have apache 1, 2, and php4 and 5 here in ubuntu, plus mail, ftp and all common stuff. The setup has been relatively easy |
| 21:57.40 | danf_1979 | is php5 in debian sarge repos? |
| 21:57.53 | chealer | !php5 |
| 21:57.53 | dpkg | from memory, php5 is in Etch but not in Sarge. For unofficial php5 packages for Sarge, ask me about dotdeb |
| 21:58.23 | thingfish | danf_1979: plus, as an added bonus, Debian women are hot and love to party. |
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| 21:59.12 | danf_1979 | Oh, you have me then |
| 21:59.17 | danf_1979 | I love the "plus" word |
| 21:59.19 | deuce868 | dandelo, I've been using the php5 from backports pinned and it's been fine for a while. I think there are a coulpe of packages. Pinning the apache-php package worked |
| 21:59.31 | deuce868 | danf_1979, oops |
| 21:59.41 | chealer | thingfish: that certainly won't bonus your channel reputation |
| 21:59.46 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 21:59.56 | thingfish | like I have a good channel reputation to squander. |
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| 22:00.48 | chealer | thingfish: so consider stopping the sexist comments |
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| 22:01.41 | thingfish | chealer: sorry. I didn't realize those were sexist. I'm gay - I'm usually clued in about that sort of thing. |
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| 22:01.44 | sphenxes | I would like to buy 2 wireless cards + switch. where can I find linux compatible wireless card? and if intel chips works with Debian? |
| 22:01.51 | chealer | thingfish: OK. I didn't mean to say that you did that regularly neither |
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| 22:02.14 | thingfish | oh I didn't interpret it that way, chealer. |
| 22:02.37 | bobibleyboo | how do you downgrade a pkg in debian? |
| 22:02.57 | thingfish | how about this then: *all* Debian users are hot and love to party. :) |
| 22:03.05 | gravity | I know I'm hot and love to party |
| 22:03.12 | gravity | My mom tells me so |
| 22:03.12 | thingfish | you go, kid! |
| 22:03.13 | freeone3000 | bobibleyboo: You generally don't... |
| 22:03.29 | TGoC | !ops thing3 troll? :p |
| 22:03.29 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: thing3 troll? :p |
| 22:03.37 | TGoC | thingfish* |
| 22:03.40 | chealer | sphenxes: AFAIK all IPW chips are "supported" by Debian. the problem is that at least IPW2200 needs proprietary firmware |
| 22:03.42 | gravity | TGoC: Stop that |
| 22:03.58 | gravity | Oh my, I'm being propositioned |
| 22:04.01 | danf_1979 | The fact was that I read somewhere that ubuntu-server come with like 220 packages with a default installation. Debian 160? |
| 22:04.11 | sphenxes | chealer thanks |
| 22:04.15 | peterS | that happen often, gravity? |
| 22:04.16 | chealer | thingfish: nice, I was going to say that to danf_1979 :) |
| 22:04.20 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:04.25 | bbrazil | danf_1979: and? |
| 22:04.39 | gravity | peterS: Not really |
| 22:04.43 | danf_1979 | less packages, less stress bbrazil |
| 22:04.59 | bbrazil | danf_1979: I wouldn't agree with that |
| 22:05.06 | danf_1979 | why? |
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| 22:05.10 | bbrazil | danf_1979: some packages make your life easier |
| 22:05.26 | danf_1979 | Yes.. that's true |
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| 22:06.11 | thingfish | danf_1979: Debian doesn't really need us to advocate for us - it can speak for itself. It's quality is unparalleled. Try it for yourself - you'll likely be as impressed as all of us were. |
| 22:06.23 | thingfish | s/it's/its |
| 22:06.44 | freeone3000 | I use the netinstall. |
| 22:06.45 | danf_1979 | thingfish, I'll try it. And the odds are my production server will be in debian |
| 22:06.46 | freeone3000 | Comes with like, 2. |
| 22:06.52 | bobibleyboo | freeone3000 I just apt-get upgraded and it appears to have upgraded glibc and broken evolution so I am trying to fix it by returning glic c to the old version any ideas |
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| 22:07.15 | freeone3000 | bobibleyboo: Odd. Evolution is..? |
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| 22:07.24 | jind | Looking for the name of a gnome application which converted a dvd to an ogg/theora/matroska file. But I don't remember what the name was. Does anybody here know which application I mean? |
| 22:07.27 | chealer | bobibleyboo: just upgrade to sid's evolution |
| 22:07.28 | bobibleyboo | evolution the mail program |
| 22:07.31 | danf_1979 | arre there any *big* debian forums out there? |
| 22:07.37 | danf_1979 | or are mailing lists prefered? |
| 22:07.43 | bobibleyboo | sorry I am allready running testing |
| 22:07.53 | chealer | danf_1979: no. mailing lists are preferred |
| 22:07.55 | peterS | danf_1979: yeah we mainly use mailing lists. forums.debian.net exists. |
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| 22:08.00 | gravity | danf_1979: Mailing lists are preferred, but forums.debian.net is probably the biggest |
| 22:08.01 | thingfish | danf_1979: I think, pretty much here and in the mailing lists. |
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| 22:08.08 | danf_1979 | Ok |
| 22:08.09 | gravity | danf_1979: If you have to use a forum, I recommend it |
| 22:08.14 | thingfish | oh I didn't know that, sorry. |
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| 22:08.24 | freeone3000 | bobibleyboo: sid's unstable... So go with the evolution package on backports.org under unstable. |
| 22:08.48 | chino | 'localhost' is coming up 'not found' |
| 22:09.02 | chealer | freeone3000: an unstable package on backports.org? |
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| 22:09.18 | thingfish | backports is overrated. I had trouble once I started getting packages there. Firefox is the only backports package I'll use now. |
| 22:09.30 | thingfish | maybe not overrated, but at least over trusted. |
| 22:09.30 | freeone3000 | chealer: sid IS unstable, yes? |
| 22:09.37 | gravity | freeone3000: Yes |
| 22:09.50 | bobibleyboo | I have allready tried that it no workey the recomended workaround in the debian bugtracker is to down grade 4 pkgs |
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| 22:09.57 | freeone3000 | chino: ifconfig. is 'lo' on there? |
| 22:10.03 | chealer | freeone3000: yes, but you get unstable packages from...unstable repositories, not from backports.org |
| 22:10.04 | chino | yes |
| 22:10.15 | jind | gravity, sure? Cause I thought etch is "unstable" and sid is "testing"? |
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| 22:10.26 | danf_1979 | sid is unstable |
| 22:10.27 | jind | Or is it visa versa? |
| 22:10.29 | gravity | jind: You've got it backwards |
| 22:10.32 | lzhang | jind: you've got it backwards |
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| 22:10.35 | gravity | jind: Right, vice versa |
| 22:10.38 | jind | Alright. My bad |
| 22:10.41 | gravity | No worries |
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| 22:10.57 | jind | I'm new with debian in general but now new with linux :) |
| 22:11.05 | jind | *not |
| 22:11.20 | danf_1979 | At least this channel seems to be more active than ubuntu's |
| 22:11.28 | peterS | sid is the unstable that never ended |
| 22:11.32 | gravity | hehe |
| 22:11.34 | jengelh | Is debian packaging pkgconfig? Can't find it in apt-cache search. |
| 22:11.45 | bobibleyboo | downgrading pkgs anyone anyone? |
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| 22:11.47 | peterS | jengelh: I think it's called pkg-config |
| 22:12.03 | jind | By the way. How can I list up every package that I can dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 22:12.08 | danf_1979 | Uhm, I like aptitude for using apt |
| 22:12.12 | peterS | jind: install 'configure-debian' |
| 22:12.14 | jengelh | thanks |
| 22:12.31 | gravity | \o/ |
| 22:12.36 | gravity | peterS is mah pimp |
| 22:12.43 | gravity | I wish I had time to work on it |
| 22:12.48 | danf_1979 | Where can I see the packages that comes with a default debian sarge installation? |
| 22:12.54 | jengelh | ah it's quite a pain to post-strap debian with lib64 variants |
| 22:12.59 | chealer | dpkg: d-i is <reply>For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ For etch/testing: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot-floopies which was used until Woody. |
| 22:12.59 | dpkg | is <reply>For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ For etch/testing: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot-floopies which was used until Woody., you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 22:13.17 | jind | peterS, thanks a lot! This is something I have wanted to know for some days now |
| 22:13.36 | peterS | jind: it's not precisely "list everything that can be reconfigured", but it's close to that |
| 22:14.11 | gravity | It's a decent heuristic, and I'm too lazy to come up with a better one :-) |
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| 22:14.49 | jind | Does not apt have a way of listing every debconf able package? Or maybe some other way? |
| 22:15.00 | jind | I mean, any way? |
| 22:15.14 | jind | Except then configure-debian of cource |
| 22:15.24 | jind | /s/cource/course |
| 22:15.32 | peterS | jind: apt doesn't, no. you could look for *.config files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 22:15.50 | slinn | how would i print a specific line number to STDOUT in a file? |
| 22:15.58 | peterS | I think that's what configure-debian does, but I haven't actually checked |
| 22:16.28 | peterS | slinn: are you sure you meant that question for #debian? you didn't provide much context.. |
| 22:16.44 | gravity | That's exactly what it does |
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| 22:17.02 | jind | peterS, I found a lot there. This is great! |
| 22:17.05 | gravity | It makes a list of every package that has templates that can be asked by debconf, organizes them, and gives you a menu |
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| 22:17.31 | danf_1979 | In a server installation, you must select what packages are going to be installed? I'm worried about this because I am not going to install my self, but my dedicated server houser... |
| 22:17.46 | gravity | danf_1979: You can do this, or you can just select the right task |
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| 22:18.07 | mar | anong pinag uusapan nyo dyan? |
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| 22:18.21 | danf_1979 | I would would like to do a minimum server installation |
| 22:18.28 | danf_1979 | is this possible? |
| 22:18.39 | nn_ | can any one test my server |
| 22:18.44 | peterS | danf_1979: not unless you can define what "minimum" and "server" mean |
| 22:18.58 | nn_ | it a monopd server |
| 22:19.05 | mar | sinong gusotng makipag usap sa akin |
| 22:19.16 | peterS | all Debian boxes are, or can be, servers - it's a very vague word |
| 22:19.24 | danf_1979 | there is no "debian server" option when starting installation? |
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| 22:19.27 | nn_ | played by alantik at 68.162.107.51 port 5190 |
| 22:19.41 | gravity | danf_1979: What kind of server? |
| 22:19.54 | peterS | danf_1979: it's like going to a restaurant and saying "I want a meal with meat in it". you have to be a little more specific |
| 22:20.02 | nn_ | monopd |
| 22:20.04 | gravity | danf_1979: There's a zillion kinds of servers. ftp servers. Mail servers. Web servers. DNS servers. Print servers. Half-life servers. Quake servers. |
| 22:20.21 | nn_ | monopoly |
| 22:20.27 | nn_ | played by alantik at 68.162.107.51 port 5190 |
| 22:20.31 | danf_1979 | apache1, apache2, http, https, mail, ftp, php4, php5 |
| 22:20.45 | peterS | nn_: you're off-topic, please stop |
| 22:20.47 | nn_ | os can you test it |
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| 22:20.55 | nn_ | ok |
| 22:20.59 | meriad | how do I tarball all files in a directory and seperate the files into 2.4GB chunks? |
| 22:21.05 | narg | My program doesn't want to core dump, even though ulimit is unlimited. Its run under sudo btw. Is there something else I should do? |
| 22:21.32 | peterS | meriad: tar has an option for creating multiple tarfiles (intended for sending to multiple tapes), but tar then split is probably easier to manage |
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| 22:21.52 | meriad | peterS- ok |
| 22:21.56 | peterS | narg: sudo quite possibly doesn't set the real UID / GID the way su does |
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| 22:22.16 | danf_1979 | So, even if you want to install a minimum debian server you must select packages during installation? |
| 22:22.25 | narg | peterS: well, programs don't dump core even under a regular user. |
| 22:22.31 | danf_1979 | ubuntu has a "server" mode for installation |
| 22:22.48 | danf_1979 | is there anything like that in debian? |
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| 22:22.55 | peterS | narg: then don't confuse us talking about sudo, then (: |
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| 22:23.07 | peterS | danf_1979: have you checked? |
| 22:23.25 | peterS | danf_1979: the installer gives you several (overlapping) suites of things to install |
| 22:23.27 | thingfish | danf_1979: you're given a list of generic "servers" to pick from. |
| 22:23.38 | gravity | danf_1979: The web-server task will get you apache2 and php4. mail-server will get you mail with exim4 by default as MTA. You'll have to tell them exactly what ftp server package you want to install |
| 22:23.54 | thingfish | like File Server (samba), Print Server, etc. |
| 22:23.57 | gravity | danf_1979: You can get the web server and mail server tasks installed trivially |
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| 22:24.25 | danf_1979 | I need all of those, DNS, FTP, Web, Mail |
| 22:24.27 | redrain | Is it possible to install and use Internet Explorer without installing Windows on another partition? I sometimes need it to test my web pages... Can wine do this? |
| 22:24.50 | gravity | danf_1979: There's also a dns server task |
| 22:25.06 | gravity | danf_1979: So yeah, you can install a bunch of tasks and then have them install whatever ftp server package you want |
| 22:25.10 | gravity | It's not that hard |
| 22:25.27 | danf_1979 | Ok, I'm going to read the docs, thanks for the info |
| 22:27.25 | nse | redrain: yes wine can do this, refer to the its documentation. forget internet explorer, they don't use it anympre |
| 22:28.12 | redrain | nse: Who don't use? |
| 22:28.19 | nse | the people |
| 22:28.54 | \amethyst | nse: err, it's still by far the most common browser |
| 22:29.08 | yggdrasil | t |
| 22:29.18 | redrain | nse: Lots of my costumers still use it :/ |
| 22:30.01 | \amethyst | redrain: http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html has instructions |
| 22:30.17 | nse | i did kind of a reeducation. it's a lose option |
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| 22:31.54 | elirips | hello everybody. i am using apache2 to run a maven-created site for a project. i'm thinking about installing bugzilla as issue-tracking system, but now i've seen that bugzilla depends on package apache. does this mean the bugzilla-package from sarge wont work with apache2? I dont want to install anything thats not in sarge... |
| 22:32.01 | redrain | \amethyst: Thank you... |
| 22:32.20 | \amethyst | redrain: you should use google next time :) |
| 22:32.29 | nse | but actually i thought that firefox was being used by everyone now. i'm wrong, then |
| 22:33.03 | redrain | \amethyst: It seems I couldn't find rihgt words to search :/ |
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| 22:33.18 | \amethyst | nse: If by "everyone" you mean "most people in #debian", perhaps. |
| 22:33.33 | jpinto | Hi, how can i install strptime? |
| 22:33.38 | danf_1979 | Oh no, nse, it's totally de contrary |
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| 22:33.44 | danf_1979 | IE is far more used |
| 22:33.50 | jpinto | man strptime gives no manual.. is this supposed to happen? |
| 22:34.05 | TGoC | jpinto installed the manual? |
| 22:34.11 | TGoC | strptime-doc |
| 22:34.24 | \amethyst | manpages-dev |
| 22:34.36 | TGoC | or that |
| 22:34.36 | TGoC | :P |
| 22:34.40 | \amethyst | TGoC: strptime is a libc function :) |
| 22:35.10 | TGoC | I bet it is lol, i'm a newb so my basic idea is adding -doc to it mostly works quite well |
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| 22:36.52 | thingfish | elirips: iirc apache2 is in sarge. |
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| 22:37.39 | elirips | thingfish, apache2 is in sarge, but package bugzilla says that it depends on apache, instead of apache2. now that i've configured apache2 i actually dont want to switch back to apache1.. |
| 22:37.47 | jpinto | TGoC and \amethyst: it's working.. thanks :) |
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| 22:38.46 | nn_school | the game Alantik at 68.162.107.51 port 5190 test server?? help here ?? tellme what happens |
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| 22:40.58 | nse | elirips: it is not the case that having apache2 is suficient to have apache? |
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| 22:43.13 | elirips | nse, i thought if bugzilla depends on package apache, it will require that package.. |
| 22:43.39 | gnufan | bugzilla doesn't depend on apache |
| 22:43.53 | nse | elirips: have you tried it? perhaps apache2 provides apache |
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| 22:45.18 | elirips | nse and gnufan, youre right, aptitude install bugzilla doesn't says anthing about apache.. and now on a second look i see that bugzilla depends on apache OR some other packages.. |
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| 22:45.47 | elirips | thank you for your help, guess its too late to install bugzilla anyway.. seems i'm not so concentrated anymore :P |
| 22:46.04 | gnufan | elirips: I've not been able to concentrate all day |
| 22:46.26 | elirips | gnufan, oh, i had to be concentrated during my math-lessons the morning.. |
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| 22:48.22 | thingfish | this is wild...I was deleting some files (assorted downloaded tar.gz and bz2 files) and my system is now playing bits of audio from god knows where - regularly, at about 2 second intervals. it sounds like drums; I was listening to streaming audio when this happened. |
| 22:49.00 | thingfish | wow, now all is normal. |
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| 22:49.48 | nse | some kind of evil bug |
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| 22:50.34 | thingfish | well, not really - more music is playing, but it's starting over and repeating. hehe kind of sounds good - I like house music anyways. |
| 22:50.59 | thingfish | and it's kind of cool that there's no media player's gui showing. |
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| 22:51.33 | liable | thingfish: heh, i had mplayer freaking out on me the other day too |
| 22:51.49 | thingfish | I thought I was going to be able to find totem running, but it's not... |
| 22:52.03 | liable | was playing a stream from a web site.. |
| 22:52.20 | nse | not weird that some nogui programs are called deamons |
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| 22:52.45 | liable | err, mplayer doesnt run as a daemon |
| 22:52.58 | thingfish | ooh it was mpg123! how the hell did it get started. |
| 22:53.11 | nse | hence the work *some* |
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| 22:53.38 | blakkino | O_o |
| 22:53.40 | blakkino | why the kernel ask "Enter the passphrase:" at the bootup? |
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| 22:53.51 | blakkino | it is not cryptsetup becose it is asked _before_ init start.. |
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| 22:54.22 | blakkino | maybe is some initrd stuff? (damn initrd) |
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| 22:54.34 | liable | blakkino: not a grub password? |
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| 22:54.41 | blakkino | no |
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| 22:54.55 | blakkino | i have setup cryptosetup.. and i put a password for it.. |
| 22:55.14 | blakkino | not it appear another "Enter the passphrase:" before init |
| 22:57.03 | evaded | Hi guys, i have a problem with my sound, simply it no more work now :-/ It have been work for good time, no more now. Probably i have mess somethings. I have play to load module and unload, when setting up my tv card. It's possible that, but how to troubleshoot, i not know which sound module i use. |
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| 22:57.28 | blakkino | also i would be curious to know why people should use initrd by default |
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| 22:58.13 | blakkino | mm.. reboot. |
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| 23:00.28 | evaded | hhhmmm, i think also to reboot, and hope that the module are reloaded. Where i can look to see which sound module it/to load? |
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| 23:12.28 | jind | How many repos can I enable in sources.list? |
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| 23:12.49 | jind | I have etch main contrib non-free, and still a lot of software is missing |
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| 23:13.16 | abrotman | jind: like what? |
| 23:13.20 | jind | I want thoggen and ogmrip, but neither are in those listed repos. |
| 23:13.34 | jind | So I wonder if there are more repos to enable? |
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| 23:15.05 | jind | Maybe if I enable testing |
| 23:15.08 | chealer | jind: it's pretty much impossible to say how many unofficial Debian repositories there might be |
| 23:15.16 | chealer | jind: etch is testing |
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| 23:15.34 | jind | Unstable then. That would be sid, right? |
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| 23:15.42 | obscuresoul | hi |
| 23:15.45 | chealer | !unstable |
| 23:15.46 | dpkg | it has been said that unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid. see sid faq. |
| 23:15.49 | abrotman | jind: etch is testing |
| 23:16.00 | abrotman | jind: don't use unstable unless you know how to get yourself out of trouble |
| 23:16.05 | abrotman | !sid upgrade |
| 23:16.06 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use stable or testing instead. |
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| 23:17.03 | obscuresoul | the package xorg from backports.org...works fine with sarge? |
| 23:17.09 | jind | abrotman, I'm not new with neither linux or terminals, so I'm not afraid to get a little bit dirty. I'm however new with debian |
| 23:17.34 | abrotman | jind: in that case .. i'd stick with testing for a bit |
| 23:17.39 | thingfish | obscuresoul: on my system, it will install fine - as long as it can remove gnome. :) |
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| 23:17.46 | abrotman | jind: now .. the apps you're looking for .. what do they do ? |
| 23:17.56 | izod | Hey all... one, hopefully quick, question... I need the kernel-source to install from a cd, but can't figure out which binary CD they are on. (I need the kernel-source to compile my NIC driver, so unfortunately, until that's done, the Debian box remains off-network.) |
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| 23:18.31 | UncleSkunk | is there another BASH command to find something.. Im looking for php.ini but when I type in find php it returns nothing. am I useing find wrong? |
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| 23:18.51 | powder | UncleSkunk, locate php.ini |
| 23:18.52 | abrotman | UncleSkunk: find / -name php.ini |
| 23:19.10 | UncleSkunk | thanks Ill go try those |
| 23:19.44 | nse | everybody loves to explain how tu use find. :) |
| 23:19.49 | obscuresoul | thingfish tks :) |
| 23:20.15 | jind | abrotman, they are dvd ripping software. |
| 23:20.31 | chealer | izod: are you sure you need the kernel source, and not just kernel headers? also which release are you asking about? |
| 23:20.31 | abrotman | jind: apt-cache search dvd rip ? |
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| 23:20.46 | izod | 2.4.27 |
| 23:20.56 | chealer | izod: I meant the Debian release |
| 23:21.00 | abrotman | !which cd |
| 23:21.00 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
| 23:21.01 | izod | Yeah.. I tried running make on the intel linux drivers and they balked. |
| 23:21.09 | abrotman | drivers fro what? |
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| 23:21.19 | abrotman | nm .. i missed it |
| 23:21.24 | abrotman | izod: what Intel card is this ? |
| 23:21.26 | izod | intel D925XCV mobo |
| 23:21.29 | jind | abrotman, I want a gui to rip to ogg/theora using a matroska container. dvdrip does not do that, unfortunately |
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| 23:21.50 | abrotman | jind: you can try apt-get.org for unofficial stuff .. |
| 23:22.04 | abrotman | !info thoggen sid |
| 23:22.14 | abrotman | !info opmrip sid |
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| 23:22.20 | abrotman | !info ogmrip sid |
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| 23:22.31 | abrotman | jind: those aren't in sid either .. |
| 23:22.54 | jind | I understand. Thanks anyway |
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| 23:23.22 | tarzeau | !noob |
| 23:23.22 | dpkg | [noob] Dear visitor, please don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. Thank you for your attention ladies and gentlemen! |
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| 23:23.58 | izod | I especially like the way intel includes Win drivers on a CD and say, "if you want Linux drivers, download them from the web..." |
| 23:24.12 | tarzeau | hehe, very mellow |
| 23:24.20 | izod | ummm, I can't download them until I can get on the web... <laugh> |
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| 23:24.45 | abrotman | izod: which NIC ? |
| 23:24.47 | izod | <bangs head on wall> |
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| 23:24.58 | izod | it's an integrated NIC on the motehrboard. |
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| 23:25.13 | abrotman | izod: lspci |
| 23:25.15 | gravity | I'd be surprised if there wasn't in-kernel support for that |
| 23:25.16 | scenestar_ | if i take a vanilla kernel off kernel.org, and i dont apply the debian patches, is that a stupid thing to do? |
| 23:25.23 | gravity | scenestar_: Not really |
| 23:25.24 | abrotman | izod: how old is it ? |
| 23:25.32 | rodgort | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.37 | rodgort | oops, sorry |
| 23:25.38 | scenestar_ | is there any benefit to applying them |
| 23:25.52 | gravity | scenestar_: Sure. There's bug fixes and such in there |
| 23:25.56 | abrotman | depends on your needs and what they are |
| 23:25.59 | izod | intel p25X express chipset, 82801FR |
| 23:26.00 | gravity | scenestar_: They may or may not apply to you though |
| 23:26.05 | izod | New mother board. |
| 23:26.17 | scenestar_ | is there a list of those fixes? |
| 23:26.22 | izod | err p25x=925x |
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| 23:26.30 | abrotman | izod: moment while i look |
| 23:26.41 | gnufan | scenestar_: it is only stupid if you (a) needed the fixes or (b) could have used a stock Debian kernel but didn't know how |
| 23:26.45 | izod | I tried theother inetl drivers during initial install and they all failed. |
| 23:26.46 | gravity | scenestar_: Maybe in the package that ships the diff. That's not in sarge though, so I doubt it. Maybe in the changelog |
| 23:26.47 | UncleSkunk | can I hide this channel in bitchx? |
| 23:26.47 | abrotman | izod: 1000mb or 100mb ? |
| 23:26.54 | scenestar_ | i use etch anyways |
| 23:26.55 | izod | 100 |
| 23:27.08 | scenestar_ | plus stock kernels are mammoths |
| 23:27.16 | abrotman | a new Mobo with e100 ? |
| 23:27.20 | izod | yeah. |
| 23:27.26 | abrotman | odd .. but ok |
| 23:27.29 | gravity | scenestar_: Everything in the stock kernels are modules |
| 23:27.44 | izod | 10/100/1000 |
| 23:27.50 | abrotman | izod: oh .. that is 1000mb |
| 23:27.55 | izod | but my switch only runs at 100. |
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| 23:28.06 | scenestar_ | gravity, you are right, nvm shall stfu since im in a bad mood anyways |
| 23:28.12 | izod | ooops, thought you wanted to know what speed I was running, not capable of. |
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| 23:28.28 | gnufan | scenestar_: strangely our GLUG members seem to regard using Debian stock kernels as a badge of honour.... |
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| 23:28.41 | gravity | scenestar_: Ok, I'm just trying to figure out what your situation is. I haven't built a custom kernel in years, and I don't miss it |
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| 23:28.48 | gravity | There are plenty of reasons to do so |
| 23:28.53 | abrotman | izod: it's possible the 2.6 in sarge may support that |
| 23:29.32 | scenestar_ | i allways find out that they're slightly faster if i do it myself |
| 23:29.33 | izod | hmmm... |
| 23:29.39 | scenestar_ | plus i like fancy splash screens |
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| 23:30.03 | izod | well, there wouldn't be any crime in killing the present install at this point. |
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| 23:30.15 | izod | fyi: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/detail_desc.aspx?strstate=live&productid=1683&dwnldid=7761&agr=n&lang=eng&prdmap=1683 |
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| 23:30.21 | abrotman | izod: can you do an `lspci` .. and then an `lspci -n` .. and find the matching line .. and the show me |
| 23:30.24 | ChrisKnight | hey baby, what's your size? |
| 23:30.26 | powder | !gentoosmite scenestar_ |
| 23:30.28 | ChrisKnight | how big are you penis wise? |
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| 23:30.32 | Steveire | hey ho. |
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| 23:30.37 | thingfish | fancy splash screens? come on. like, that's *so* low on the priority list. |
| 23:30.37 | Steveire | why would I choose one distro over another? |
| 23:30.49 | Ronin | Steveire: we cant answer that |
| 23:30.50 | scenestar_ | powder, that is a lie |
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| 23:30.57 | gravity | Steveire: Ask that in ##linux please |
| 23:31.04 | thingfish | tsk. I'm sure he meant to /join #size-queens |
| 23:31.08 | Steveire | i did. It's empty |
| 23:31.09 | powder | scenestar_, how so? |
| 23:31.15 | scenestar_ | its just a kernel |
| 23:31.18 | abrotman | !tell Steveire about why debian |
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| 23:31.25 | Steveire | I've been using Fedora for a few weeks, and I want to switch |
| 23:31.32 | gravity | Steveire: There's hundreds of people in there |
| 23:31.32 | scenestar_ | you should |
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| 23:31.36 | scenestar_ | fedora is horrible |
| 23:31.38 | gravity | Steveire: Obviously it's not empty |
| 23:31.44 | thingfish | Steveire: good for you. I came from red hat/fedora. |
| 23:31.55 | scenestar_ | i came from windows xp |
| 23:31.55 | scenestar_ | :P |
| 23:31.58 | abrotman | and then you brought that girl from savannah in here! |
| 23:32.06 | thingfish | fedora is *beyond* horrible. It's a loosely held-together bug collection. |
| 23:32.08 | jmp_me | anyone noticed how many debian users switching to gentoo ? :) |
| 23:32.14 | simonrvn | i came from mock os 9 |
| 23:32.20 | scenestar_ | jmp_me, because of portage |
| 23:32.22 | thingfish | jmp_me: hah. NONE. |
| 23:32.22 | abrotman | jmp_me: have you noticed how many are switching from gentoo to debian? |
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| 23:32.26 | simonrvn | jmp_me: then they switch back |
| 23:32.31 | gravity | So much for trying |
| 23:32.39 | scenestar_ | its just as simple as apt, but more bleeding edge stuff |
| 23:32.39 | abrotman | !start a distro war |
| 23:32.39 | dpkg | Cent OS rocks! |
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| 23:32.41 | thingfish | yes, sorry for entering into the fray. |
| 23:32.59 | Steveire | thingfish: Can i do anything in debian that I could do in fedora? |
| 23:33.05 | scenestar_ | yeah |
| 23:33.07 | scenestar_ | and more |
| 23:33.08 | thingfish | I'm so well-behaved when I haven't been around bourbon. |
| 23:33.12 | beardy | !sns syndrome |
| 23:33.12 | dpkg | i heard sns syndrome is a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shite Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 23:33.25 | thingfish | Steveire: see things work like they're supposed to, for one thing. |
| 23:33.31 | powder | Steveire, weren't you just in #ubuntu saying you want to switch from Fedora to Ubuntu? |
| 23:33.33 | scenestar_ | dude, have fun using old out dated stuff |
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| 23:33.42 | scenestar_ | its a desktop, not a server |
| 23:33.52 | izod | abrotman: which matching line do you want? |
| 23:33.54 | Steveire | I was also in ##linux saying i want to consider other distros |
| 23:33.59 | thingfish | Steveire: here's how I look at it: in Debian, 1+1=2. In Fedora, 1+1=?/ |
| 23:34.02 | abrotman | izod: the one that matches your NIC :) |
| 23:34.12 | cockroach | is there a way to refresh x' fonts without restarting the x server (I added a new FontPath)? |
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| 23:34.14 | thingfish | eeck *simply ? |
| 23:34.23 | abrotman | thing3: still can't fix your typos :) |
| 23:34.28 | gravity | cockroach: Not really that I'm aware of |
| 23:34.31 | Steveire | thingfish: What do you mean by that? |
| 23:34.39 | thingfish | abrotman: you need to undrink me some likker. |
| 23:34.49 | cockroach | gravity: okay, thanks. too bad for all my well-going downloads :) |
| 23:34.57 | gravity | heh |
| 23:34.58 | izod | nm: I found it... <laugh> |
| 23:34.58 | gnufan | thingfish: except for "cu" cu works just like the Redhat "cu", which means not at all for root under Debian :) |
| 23:35.02 | abrotman | thingfish: hug the bowl? :) |
| 23:35.19 | abrotman | mbishop: go help .. stop whining |
| 23:35.20 | gravity | mbishop: It's filtering in quite quickly to unstable |
| 23:35.21 | beardy | Steveire: WHat "desktop" activities of yours require "bleeding edge stuff"? |
| 23:35.23 | thingfish | abrotman: oh I'm not even near that. me mucho happy, no sickie. |
| 23:35.24 | simonrvn | it's trickling in bit by bit |
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| 23:35.39 | simonrvn | yeh, what gravity and abrotman said ;) |
| 23:35.51 | assfadf | ok, i just created a user, how do you make this user act as an admin? |
| 23:35.58 | assfadf | and im not talkin about sudo |
| 23:36.00 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 23:36.03 | Steveire | I don't think I require bleeding edge, beardy, why? |
| 23:36.14 | scenestar_ | because you are boring |
| 23:36.32 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 23:36.43 | Ronin | scenestar_: who's boring? |
| 23:37.03 | scenestar_ | geeh |
| 23:37.05 | assfadf | how come there's no stable version of i686? |
| 23:37.06 | beardy | assfadf: What are you talking about then? |
| 23:37.09 | thingfish | Steveire: I mean that everything in Debian Sarge pretty much works like you'd expect it to. I mean you could sell this o.s., and people would not feel ripped off. Fedora is for testers, not meant for production environment. Nuff said. |
| 23:37.12 | scenestar_ | its like highschool all over again |
| 23:37.20 | abrotman | assfadf: it's a waste of time/space |
| 23:37.25 | gnufan | beardy: I need bleeding edge desktop stuff -- people keep offering me "flash" porn, and my flash viewer says "Nah not rendering that" (or words to that effect). |
| 23:37.29 | beardy | Steveire: Wrong person apparently, sorry. |
| 23:37.39 | beardy | scenestar_: WHat "desktop" activities of yours require "bleeding edge stuff"? |
| 23:37.40 | Ronin | gnufan: and thats a good thing :) |
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| 23:37.57 | Ronin | beardy: porn i bet ;) |
| 23:38.03 | mbishop | gnufan: hmm? running unstable here, still 2.12, the base system is installed, but most of the desktop parts are still 2.12/3 |
| 23:38.05 | assfadf | what you mean waste of time/space? |
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| 23:38.13 | gravity | mbishop: Your mirror is slow |
| 23:38.18 | izod | abrotman: lspci= "0000:04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.: Unknown Device 4361 (rev 17)" |
| 23:38.18 | scenestar_ | well the gnome that comes with sarge is just old |
| 23:38.19 | gravity | I've got large chunks of 2.14 |
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| 23:38.23 | seb- | can dpkg --get-selections > my_list capture ALL apps installed and duplicate a PC entirelly? |
| 23:38.26 | beardy | Ronin: Every pornbrowser since a very long time back can view pornö |
| 23:38.33 | abrotman | izod: eww .. marvel .. i thought you said it was an intel |
| 23:38.33 | thingfish | scenestar_: yeah it kind of is. |
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| 23:38.54 | izod | abrotman: lspci -n="0000:04:00.0 0200: 11ab:4361 (rev 17)" |
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| 23:39.00 | izod | it is an intel... |
| 23:39.03 | thingfish | I mean I love sarge's stability, but I sometimes feel like the world's passing me by. |
| 23:39.08 | scenestar_ | 2.12 i can definately live with, but that crap that comes with sarge makes me feel jealous of gentoo users |
| 23:39.09 | abrotman | !which driver |
| 23:39.09 | dpkg | Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver supports your device. |
| 23:39.15 | izod | it's integrated on the mother board.... |
| 23:39.29 | seb- | abrotman: dpkg --get-selections output has no info on whether package is stable or unstable |
| 23:39.30 | scenestar_ | then find out which mobo you have |
| 23:39.35 | mbishop | gravity: hmm? the status page says there are still some pieces missing |
| 23:39.35 | Kovecses | thingfish: etch and sid are more stable than you would think |
| 23:39.38 | abrotman | seb-: no it doesn't |
| 23:39.40 | pinkmermaid | Hey all >.> Couple newbie-ish questions here... How many CDs from the full install set would be okay to install from? I'm currently thinking I can get away with one or two and then just apt-get anything else I'll need after install? |
| 23:39.40 | scenestar_ | yeah |
| 23:39.40 | simonrvn | seb-: yes. --set-selections < file to get them |
| 23:39.41 | Naz_ | I need to completely clear my queue for exim4 |
| 23:39.45 | gravity | scenestar_: gentoo has nothing remotely comparable to sarge |
| 23:39.48 | Naz_ | I've rread the manual and I still can't get it working. |
| 23:39.50 | simonrvn | abrotman: why no? |
| 23:39.51 | scenestar_ | etch is actually a whole damn more stable on my laptop |
| 23:39.56 | seb- | abrotman: so how can it "clone" a machine perfectly? |
| 23:39.56 | beardy | !d-i pinkmermaid |
| 23:39.56 | dpkg | pinkmermaid, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 23:39.57 | gravity | scenestar_: If you want gentoo-like stuff from debian, run unstable and experimental packages |
| 23:39.57 | abrotman | simonrvn: read his whole statement |
| 23:40.03 | beardy | pinkmermaid: /msg dpkg ig |
| 23:40.06 | izod | motherboard is Intel 925XCV. |
| 23:40.09 | gravity | mbishop: Sure, pieces are missing, but I have a lot of them on my system right now |
| 23:40.10 | scenestar_ | i only run testing and stable |
| 23:40.15 | simonrvn | yeh ok. |
| 23:40.22 | abrotman | izod: you may very well need to compile the driver .. which is just stupid |
| 23:40.22 | scenestar_ | unstable requires too much pinning |
| 23:40.25 | gravity | scenestar_: Then quit bitching about gentoo. testing isn't comparable |
| 23:40.27 | seb- | simonrvn: dpkg --get-selections output has no info on whether package is stable or unstable so how can it clone a pc perfectly? |
| 23:40.30 | thingfish | Kovecses: actually, I know that - I ran sid for quite a while, like 6 months, never had a single problem. but that was right before sarge released, when things were almost frozen. |
| 23:40.30 | simonrvn | it'll duplcate the packages installed |
| 23:40.31 | gravity | scenestar_: I *never* pin with unstable |
| 23:40.32 | gravity | Ever |
| 23:40.35 | mbishop | gravity: me too, but gnome doesn't say it's 2.14, and I guess technically it's correct |
| 23:40.40 | abrotman | izod: you have CD1 ? |
| 23:40.48 | simonrvn | seb-: that's up to you to set via sources.list |
| 23:40.49 | izod | yeah, bin-1 |
| 23:40.53 | scenestar_ | gravity, care to share your sources.list? |
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| 23:40.59 | scenestar_ | im interested |
| 23:41.01 | gravity | mbishop: Mine says 2.14.0 |
| 23:41.06 | abrotman | scenestar_: i'd rather see yours |
| 23:41.07 | abrotman | !paste |
| 23:41.07 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 23:41.08 | gravity | scenestar_: Dude, it's just unstable |
| 23:41.11 | seb- | simonrvn: sources.list just allows you to pin unstable |
| 23:41.18 | abrotman | scenestar_: can you paste your sources in #flood ? |
| 23:41.20 | izod | I have bin-1, bin-2, and just for good measure bin-3... |
| 23:41.21 | simonrvn | sources.list does no such thing |
| 23:41.26 | scenestar_ | abrotman, ill pastebin |
| 23:41.31 | abrotman | izod: there should be a 2.6 on CD1 |
| 23:41.37 | seb- | simonrvn: i mean...it is where you set source of your packages to install iirc |
| 23:41.46 | seb- | simonrvn: or sources |
| 23:41.47 | abrotman | izod: the kernel-source package should also be there |
| 23:41.49 | abrotman | !which cd |
| 23:41.49 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
| 23:41.54 | Naz_ | can anyone help? |
| 23:42.07 | Ronin | Naz_: help with what? |
| 23:42.10 | beardy | Naz_: Perhaps, just ask your question. |
| 23:42.12 | dbe | Naz_, what are you trying to do |
| 23:42.16 | gravity | seb-: pinning is orthogonal to sources.list. |
| 23:42.20 | Kovecses | actually debian etch is more up to date than the gentoo stable tree |
| 23:42.26 | seb- | gravity: please explain |
| 23:42.44 | abrotman | stew: i think your package search is broken |
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| 23:42.49 | Naz_ | I need to clear my entire eexim queue |
| 23:42.51 | simonrvn | Kovecses: sid even more so |
| 23:42.56 | Naz_ | #exim is dead |
| 23:42.56 | chealer | !netinst |
| 23:42.57 | dpkg | i heard netinst is a small cd or set of floppy images which install the base Debian system. For sarge, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ For boot floppies see http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ For etch see http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/etch_d-i/i386/beta1/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso for x86, or see dialup install. Also see d-i. |
| 23:42.59 | gravity | seb-: sources.list sets up all the repositories that apt can pull from. The ones it chooses to pull from can depend on things like pinning, which are set up in the apt preferences file |
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| 23:43.00 | Naz_ | and I've RTFM |
| 23:43.01 | syntaxis | abrotman: that factoid should be updated to mention http://people.debian.org/~fenio/jigdo-search.php |
| 23:43.02 | mbishop | there's also a lot of packages gentoo just plain doesn't have, and some that are unmaintained |
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| 23:43.11 | mbishop | and it's getting worse by the day, as more devs leave |
| 23:43.15 | abrotman | izod: way way wrong .. it's on CD13 |
| 23:43.20 | scenestar_ | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2297 |
| 23:43.24 | scenestar_ | there we go |
| 23:43.31 | gravity | seb-: apt also has defaults too, and if your sources.list only has one source (like unstable) the default is to pull from that. That's not pinning though |
| 23:43.36 | izod | cd 13? |
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| 23:43.39 | izod | ok.. cool... |
| 23:43.41 | gravity | seb-: Does that make sense? |
| 23:43.45 | Kovecses | coming from gentoo I am more than pleased with etch |
| 23:43.48 | scenestar_ | yeah |
| 23:43.49 | scenestar_ | me too |
| 23:43.52 | abrotman | izod: so that URL says |
| 23:43.54 | izod | 13 of the binary set and not the source, right? |
| 23:43.57 | powder | what is pinning? |
| 23:43.57 | Naz_ | Is there any way of completely reinstalling exim? |
| 23:43.58 | simonrvn | thank you mr. DD ;) |
| 23:44.01 | abrotman | izod: right |
| 23:44.02 | gravity | heh |
| 23:44.03 | izod | hehe. |
| 23:44.03 | blakkino | .. |
| 23:44.06 | Naz_ | logs, queue, config and all? |
| 23:44.12 | seb- | gravity: yes,..then how can you duplicate an install if dpkg --get-selections output doesn't specify ..."ok, this one is from stable....*this one* is from unstable...etc." |
| 23:44.12 | blakkino | someone using cryptsetup? |
| 23:44.15 | izod | ... off to DL more more more! :) |
| 23:44.23 | beardy | !pinning |
| 23:44.23 | dpkg | apt-pinning is, like, read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
| 23:44.25 | simonrvn | seb-: you don't |
| 23:44.32 | abrotman | scenestar_: that's a horrible source list |
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| 23:44.36 | scenestar_ | abrotman, i know |
| 23:44.38 | blakkino | or.. how to manipulate initrd .img files? |
| 23:44.40 | scenestar_ | care to share yours? |
| 23:44.45 | Naz_ | anyone? |
| 23:44.46 | abrotman | scenestar_: no wonder your shit is all broken |
| 23:44.47 | seb- | simonrvn: i can't be the first one whose tried to clone a debian pc |
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| 23:44.49 | gravity | seb-: I don't know, I've never had to do such a thing |
| 23:44.56 | scenestar_ | abrotman, then show me a decent one |
| 23:44.57 | beardy | blakkino: mount them |
| 23:44.58 | izod | abrotman.. Thanks for your help! |
| 23:44.59 | thingfish | I only crave recent software releases and when I'm bored. The rest of the time, I'm glad my system is as reliable as it is with sarge. |
| 23:44.59 | abrotman | scenestar_: mine is probably more simple than gravity's |
| 23:45.01 | seb- | gravity: ok, thanks for the help |
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| 23:45.01 | simonrvn | seb-: you wouldn't be mixing stable and unstable anyway. that's asking for trouble |
| 23:45.02 | chealer | dpkg: no, netinst is a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection. see http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst If you use a dialup connection, ask me about dialup install. |
| 23:45.02 | dpkg | chealer: okay |
| 23:45.07 | scenestar_ | well just show it |
| 23:45.13 | seb- | simonrvn: ok, thanks |
| 23:45.21 | abrotman | scenestar_: mine is 3 lines |
| 23:45.24 | gravity | My sources.list is actually a little complicated, due to local repos and such that I need for testing things |
| 23:45.28 | Naz_ | god, I can't get anything :( |
| 23:45.30 | gravity | So it's not worth looking at |
| 23:45.32 | blakkino | beardy, fs type? |
| 23:45.34 | blakkino | :p |
| 23:45.34 | scenestar_ | abrotman, fine |
| 23:45.37 | scenestar_ | well its messy |
| 23:45.40 | beardy | blakkino: cramfs |
| 23:45.43 | scenestar_ | but i just add random stuff to it |
| 23:45.48 | abrotman | scenestar_: it's quite obvious i'm not using a pile of unofficial crap like you are |
| 23:45.50 | scenestar_ | i can handle my own deps |
| 23:45.56 | blakkino | beardy, tnx |
| 23:45.58 | scenestar_ | pffft |
| 23:45.59 | beardy | blakkino: (IIRC) |
| 23:46.06 | beardy | blakkino: You're welcome. |
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| 23:46.22 | scenestar_ | have fun using ancient versions and no decent w32codecs |
| 23:46.28 | gravity | seb-: Actually, now that I think about it, dpkg must output version info with that. Apt probably will try to pull the appropriate version from the sources available |
| 23:46.35 | izod | keep a look out for me... More adevntures to follow! :) |
| 23:46.36 | abrotman | scenestar_: i have w32codecs .. i'm just smarter than you .. have a nice day |
| 23:46.38 | gravity | seb-: I don't know that that's true though, not having done it or looked at the code |
| 23:46.49 | beardy | scenestar_: Stop whining, fix things or use something that suits you better instead then. |
| 23:46.50 | abrotman | scenestar_: and nothing i use is ancient |
| 23:46.51 | simonrvn | gravity: no it doesn't. that's from status |
| 23:46.59 | scenestar_ | abrotman, i bet you pickup line is "hey baby, wanna check out my sources.list" |
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| 23:47.15 | Kovecses | all the codec dlls are on mplayers web site |
| 23:47.17 | scenestar_ | abrotman, im just asking you to share yours so i can learn from it |
| 23:47.19 | abrotman | scenestar_: are you brain-damaged? |
| 23:47.21 | mbishop | that made tons of sense |
| 23:47.37 | thingfish | they have medications for brain damage... |
| 23:47.40 | abrotman | scenestar_: i told you .. i use the debian repos and nothing else ... |
| 23:47.57 | scenestar_ | so non-free non-us |
| 23:48.15 | abrotman | there is no more non-us |
| 23:48.19 | gravity | \o/ |
| 23:48.22 | simonrvn | ok, i'm fetching my {M,P}Butter sandwiches |
| 23:48.30 | scenestar_ | and i would care for you not being such a complete bitch about software sources |
| 23:48.31 | abrotman | !weep for non-us |
| 23:48.35 | blakkino | beardy, my problem is a question "Enter the passphrase" at the begin.. |
| 23:48.47 | blakkino | where can it be in the initrd? |
| 23:48.50 | thingfish | that sounds good, simonrvn. have you ever had a cashew butter sandwich? |
| 23:48.56 | abrotman | scenestar_: you whined about pinning .. and it's quite obvious why .. your sources looks like a cat jumped on your keyboard |
| 23:48.59 | Kovecses | debian-desktop has cool desktop backports for sarge.... but nothing more than is in backports.org i dont htink |
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| 23:49.05 | beardy | blakkino: WHen you mount is? WHat kernel is that? |
| 23:49.10 | beardy | it |
| 23:49.10 | scenestar_ | actually, i composed that when i was drunk |
| 23:49.15 | abrotman | it shows |
| 23:49.24 | blakkino | (it ask a passphrase for what?.. i'm using a crypto fs.. but it ISN'T ROOT! damn..) |
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| 23:49.36 | blakkino | 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 |
| 23:49.41 | thingfish | haha abrotman that's a nice simile - point abrotman. |
| 23:49.45 | Mawbid | Is it possible to create a 500GB raid5 array with two 250GB disks, delaying the writing of redundant data until you add the third disk (which, not incidentally, is part of the 500GB logical volume from which I'm migrating the data)? |
| 23:50.06 | abrotman | gravity: try not to be ill :) |
| 23:50.14 | gravity | Heh, that's quite a lot |
| 23:50.18 | gravity | Mine is actually waaay fuglier |
| 23:50.19 | scenestar_ | yeah |
| 23:50.21 | abrotman | and most of it is useless |
| 23:50.23 | gravity | But I have special needs |
| 23:50.24 | simonrvn | where isa it? |
| 23:50.26 | scenestar_ | gravity, share |
| 23:50.27 | scenestar_ | sma eher |
| 23:50.29 | abrotman | gravity: we've noticed |
| 23:50.34 | assfadf | what kernel are yall using? |
| 23:50.35 | simonrvn | wtf is with the extra a's |
| 23:50.35 | Kovecses | pinkmermaid: NICE |
| 23:50.43 | jmp_me | pinkmermaid: GOOD |
| 23:50.46 | simonrvn | assfadf: one i made |
| 23:50.47 | gravity | Most of it is commented out now |
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| 23:50.56 | blakkino | mm |
| 23:50.57 | gravity | It's basically unstable + experimental + marillat |
| 23:50.57 | thingfish | pinkmermaid: I hope you have a glass of chablis in hand? |
| 23:50.59 | blakkino | i have found |
| 23:51.00 | scenestar_ | abrotman, having a clean sources.list file really isnt going to get you laid |
| 23:51.02 | beardy | pinkmermaid: Good luck, and have fun. Ask if you get troubles. /msg dpkg grounding |
| 23:51.03 | blakkino | in the "script" |
| 23:51.06 | Kovecses | pinkmermaid: what distro were you using before? |
| 23:51.11 | simonrvn | thingfish: no i haven't |
| 23:51.18 | gravity | scenestar_: Debian isn't going to get you laid either |
| 23:51.24 | gravity | scenestar_: But that's not why you do it |
| 23:51.24 | powder | scenestar_, quit trolling |
| 23:51.26 | abrotman | scenestar_: if you think a broken machine will get you laid .. you've got issues |
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| 23:51.38 | thingfish | simonrvn: don't, then. it's addicting, and expensive. |
| 23:51.42 | thingfish | kind of like nutella. |
| 23:51.50 | thingfish | only cashew flavored. |
| 23:51.52 | assfadf | simonrvn, what's the latest then? |
| 23:51.59 | simonrvn | scenestar_: no, being nice to people is. |
| 23:52.00 | assfadf | that debian's using |
| 23:52.00 | pinkmermaid | Kovecses: I've just been trying different things for a while, most recently Ubuntu |
| 23:52.03 | UncleSkunk | sometimes I wish I had a floppy drive |
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| 23:52.10 | simonrvn | assfadf: www.kernel.org, or ask the bots |
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| 23:52.15 | simonrvn | @kernel |
| 23:52.21 | Kovecses | pinkmermaid: debian shouldnt be too hard then |
| 23:52.29 | ravenbird | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.16.1, prepatch: 2.6.17-rc1, snapshot: 2.6.16-git20, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-pre2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.17-rc1-mm1 |
| 23:52.46 | RainbowW | how do i upgrade only one (or the minimum number of deps) package from etch, onto a sarge system? or am i better off uninstalling and custom-rolling? |
| 23:53.01 | abrotman | RainbowW: like what? |
| 23:53.04 | pinkmermaid | Kovecses: I tried it once on a virtual machine and liked it, I'm hoping to continue that experience. :) |
| 23:53.07 | dondelelcaro | RainbowW: just get a backport. |
| 23:53.07 | beardy | RainbowW: backports.org |
| 23:53.17 | assfadf | ok, im using 3.1 rv1 stable, is it safe to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.16.1 ? |
| 23:53.17 | Kovecses | RainbowW: did you look at backports |
| 23:53.27 | RainbowW | kaching ty |
| 23:53.42 | gnufan | Kovecses: hmm -- I have a Cube here which was a damn site easier to install Ubuntu on -- like worked first time -- versus hack to get boot screen, hacking X config, and hacking sound setup -- sorry some hardware Ubuntu just works better on. |
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| 23:53.47 | dvs | assfadf: I wouldn't. Not to that kernel |
| 23:54.00 | assfadf | dvs, why not? |
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| 23:54.08 | assfadf | or any 2.6.* |
| 23:54.09 | Kovecses | gnufan: and your point? |
| 23:54.12 | blipp | hey is it possible to use 2 wireless connections at the same time (thus increasing bandwidth) ? |
| 23:54.13 | dvs | assfadf: I've heard nothing but trouble with that version. |
| 23:54.22 | assfadf | i see |
| 23:54.30 | assfadf | then why it says stable? |
| 23:54.34 | assfadf | stable but trouble? |
| 23:54.44 | dvs | assfadf: yup |
| 23:54.49 | gnufan | Kovecses: you were assuming Debian would be easy because Ubuntu was done first -- not the case with my Cube (a Via MB). |
| 23:55.14 | Kovecses | gnufan: thats not what i said at all. |
| 23:55.21 | blipp | i'm just gunna come right out and say that i think ubuntu is such a gay name |
| 23:55.31 | beardy | !gay |
| 23:55.31 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 23:55.39 | gravity | blipp: Take it elsewhere please |
| 23:55.39 | UncleSkunk | hahah |
| 23:55.43 | gravity | Ubuntu is off-topic |
| 23:56.04 | thingfish | amen and amen |
| 23:56.06 | powder | i like ubuntu's shit brown colors |
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| 23:56.25 | thingfish | blipp: talk to me about gay. :/ |
| 23:56.31 | beardy | abrotman: absolutely sure? |
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| 23:56.54 | abrotman | beardy: i have no idea .. i blame superman for making the world spin backwards! |
| 23:57.26 | thingfish | gnufan: hah. abrotman is here all the time, every time. except for a half hour on saturdays, when he takes a quick shower. |
| 23:57.39 | dvs | abrotman: No, that's the alcohol making you spin around ;-) |
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| 23:57.52 | redrain | Hi, I want to install wine's newest version, but it needs new version of libc which want to remove base-config. Could this be problem with my sarge system? |
| 23:58.11 | blipp | hey is it possible to use 2 wireless connections at the same time (thus increasing bandwidth) ? |
| 23:58.12 | gnufan | thingfish: we could get him a waterproof keyboard if it will help ;) |
| 23:58.14 | thingfish | I think it's this damn totem visualization that's making me spin around. |
| 23:58.19 | beardy | redrain: Yes, don't do it. |
| 23:58.36 | blakkino | what is the tool used by packages to generate initrd images? |
| 23:58.47 | thingfish | gnufan: well we might as well get him one of those sports/military-tough laptops. |
| 23:58.52 | redrain | beardy: Ok, thank you |
| 23:59.02 | blakkino | why i have a non working initrd.. who put it in that state? |
| 23:59.02 | blakkino | :) |
| 23:59.19 | beardy | redrain: Check if there exists a backport of a newer version. |
| 23:59.23 | abrotman | dvs: You spin me right round, baby -- Right round like a record, baby -- Right round round round |
| 23:59.36 | beardy | !tell redrain -about backport |
| 23:59.39 | *** part/#debian dadexter (i=dadexter@slackadelic.com) |
| 23:59.39 | thingfish | no way! you *don't* remember that song. |
| 23:59.51 | simonrvn | unfortunately |
| 23:59.57 | abrotman | thingfish: google rules! |
